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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyiWKXTd9aY	4,235	AyiWKXTd9aY	2023-01-23 00:00:00	I think the easiest thing in life is to give up on whatever you know whatever you're focused on or whatever you're hopeful for the hardest thing is to keep going but we have to like we have to continue to hold on and I would imagine for so many people out there that is probably the most difficult thing the best-selling author and host the number one Health and Wellness podcast on purpose with Jay Shetty hey everyone welcome back to on purpose the number one Health podcast in the world thanks to each and every one of you that come back every week to listen learn and grow now I know that our community is dedicated to living happier healthier and more healed lives and I love sitting down with people who are dedicated to their own happiness their own health their own healing and doing that for the world through their work and I have to be honest it's not every day that you get to sit down with someone you admire you're inspired by you look up to and someone who is truly the definition of the word goat uh I'm talking about the one and only sir Lewis Hamilton seven time Formula One World Champion someone with over a hundred race wins considered the most successful F1 driver of all time and Lewis's willingness to embrace what makes him different has defined his values and outlook on life and in 2014 those values saw him win BBC's Sports personality of the Year followed two years later by a position in Time magazine's 100 most influential people list Lewis received both accolades for a second time in 2020 in a year that saw him become a leading voice in the global fight for racial equality in doing so he was recognized as British gq's Game Changer of the year and Powerless most influential black person in the UK and further to this Lewis won the 2020 glorious Sportsman of the Year award and most notably was formally recognized with a Knighthood in 2020 New Year's honors for his outstanding achievements and contribution to Motorsports on the track and off the track Lewis is also passionate activists for so many underrepresented groups and communities his mission 44 is doing incredible work please welcome to on purpose Lewis Hamilton Lewis thank you for being here thank you so much for having me no this honestly is a special one for me it's been one of those ones that you know when I first launched the podcast there were a few names that I wanted to sit down with and you were one of those names so for me it's a very special moment and for this to be your first ever podcast which you just told me I didn't even know and you literally told me this like 10 minutes ago and in my head I'm thinking wow thank I I'm so grateful to have that honor honestly honest mine I'm really so grateful for everything you do and so I've been following and listening to you and you sent me the book a long time ago already so I really appreciate everything you're doing today oh well thank you man thank you and I'm excited to unpack your journey because as we said because it's your first podcast people have heard parts of you but but we don't really understand the depth and the texture of of Lewis Hamilton and so I guess I want to start in a in a different place and we'll we'll kind of go through on this journey I wanted to ask you what do you feel is the hardest thing you've had to do in order to be who you are today I think continuing to have the belief in myself and not letting that Veer off since I was young since I've been told from my teachers that I would never amount to nothing The Bullying or the things that you face at the adversity you face the discrimination and just continue to keep your head up continuing to to march on ahead uh towards your dream and never lose inside now I think that's definitely for sure the most difficult thing is keeping keeping your goal and your eyes set on that and not being distracted um not giving up I think the easiest thing in life is to give up on whatever you know whatever you're focused on or whatever you're hopeful for the hardest thing is to continue to keep going but we have to like we have to continue to hold on and I would imagine for so many people out there that is that it that is probably the most difficult thing yeah I think that's a great answer because I think people look at you and they assume that you never have to make that choice right they see someone in your position someone who's achieved what you've achieved and the Assumption can be oh yeah but he's the greatest he was he was just always that way and he doesn't have to make that choice every day but as you said since the beginning of your life whether it's childhood whether it's breaking into a sport that wasn't set up for you there have been so many moments let's let's go back to school let's talk about some of that more in depth because I feel like a lot of people struggle at school but you kind of went through a lot of altercations and adversities at that time what were some of the things you were hearing some of the bullying some of the racism the experiences that you had that felt limiting or made it feel like it was easier to give up I think for me I mean school was the most probably the most traumatizing and diff most difficult part of my life wow um I already was being bullied at the age of six um I think at the time that particular school I was probably one of three kids of color and just bigger stronger bullying kids were throwing me around a lot of the time I was always the last picked in the you know when you're standing playground in your uh in the line of when they're picking teams for football I was always the last one chosen or not even chosen even if I was better than somebody else um and then the the constant Jabs the things that are either thrown at you like bananas or people that would use the m word just so relaxed um people calling you half cast and you know just really not knowing where you fit in that for me was difficult when you then go into like history class and everything you learn in history there are no people of color in the history that they were teaching us so I was thinking oh well where are the people that look like me and I mean for me in my school there was only around I think there was around seven maybe six seven black kids out of 1200 kids and three of us were else put outside the headmaster's office all the time the Headmaster just had it out for for us and particularly for me I would say so like just juggling all these different emotions that you're feeling plus I struggled at school I didn't find out till I was 16 that I was dyslexic fortunately I came across a teacher that was actually caring and um took me down that road and helped me discover a little bit more about myself and how I can better myself through education but um I think that for me was that was tough also because I was racing every weekend I would leave on the Thursday night we would travel you know pack up the motorhome we'll travel around the country to race on the weekends and no one else knew when I'd got back to school every all the kids have done normal things on the weekend and I'll come back and say I'm I was racing and people would be like oh I've done that before you know like at this at the theme park or something but no one really knew what my goal was and could really they thought we would maybe it was a joke you missed a lot of that social interaction also I was putting all the lowest sets at school and told that if you do well you can progress and then never ever let me progress no matter how hard I tried um so I really felt that the system was really up against me and I was kind of swimming against the tide but I'm so grateful for that that Journey because that's what built me to the person that I am today but there were a lot of things that I suppressed because I I couldn't go home and say hey to my I didn't feel I could go home and talk to my parents that you know these kids kept calling me them where today I got bullied I got beaten up at school today or I you know I wasn't able to defend myself I didn't want my dad to think I was not strong and so I'll you know if I had tears I would hold them back if I had emotions it would be in a quiet place and um it wasn't really till I started racing that I was able to channel this emotion that I had into my driving and it's like when I put this helmet on Superman was my favorite I loved how he fought for the people and I loved how he did the right things and he was a really inspiring character for me but again no superhero was of color so you know but you can still aspire to be someone that's if they don't look like you you know um and so I remember going to karate I remember putting this helmet on in racing and it felt like it was my cloak you know my superpowers had come out when I was driving and I was battling with these kids and I was doing able to do things that they seemed to not be able to do as well and that was my love wow yeah I mean it's my mind was opposite I was bullied a lot at school as well I was one of five people of color in my primary school and I was also overweight and so I was bullied for that and obviously you know my parents are from Indian backgrounds and so they'd gone through it much worse than I did when when they'd moved to England but the difference was that I would go cry to my mum and then my mum would come try and save the day in school and that was the worst that was so embarrassing like your mum's they're telling the teacher what happened and then I'm like oh no Mom don't do this and then it's even more embarrassing because the kids pick on you going oh mum came to say oh yeah yeah Mommy's right yeah so that that was my version of it I wasn't scared of crying to my mum but then it had it had different things but yeah that that's so hard as a kid when you're going through that and you're trying to find yourself you're trying to figure out what confidence is you don't even know what that means you feel like not going to school but then even though you're saying you found it in racing I mean racing was similar because you were working class you're still to this day the only working-class black driver to do as successfully as you have so not only do you have it at school you also have it in your passion like in the thing that is your cloak is your Superman so how does it feel when you're also dealing with it in that area where you've discovered what your passion or your interest is at that age what does it feel like when you're getting in that space it's inescapable you know you use that as an escape but then you're confronted with it also and so I was just grateful that I had this amazing figure in my dad you know I got a you know my best one of my best friends like his dad was never there I know there's not many people that have separated parents and and being shared between parents is not an easy thing um you know some days with your mom and some days we did that my my mum was the soft loving parent so that's where I really I feel like I learned a lot of compassion and empathy that's where I feel like I get it from her and my dad was at that strong like kind of stronger Rock and also just someone that looked like me on and just he would say do you talking on the track don't be distracted by it don't listen to what they're saying do your driving on track and show let's just be quiet and walk away as well as you know um so but you know again like your parents my parents went through well particularly my dad was someone that also face adversity through his life and he's like I want to do everything in my power to create a better life for my kid so that I don't feel or experience the things that I have encountered and through my through my journey and so but I think for me it was also difficult having biracial you know I'm biracial so having a white mother mother for example and a black dad I knew my dad would understand the racial slurs that I surrounded me my mum couldn't understand it so I couldn't really speak to my mum about it she was loving but she's never been educated within it she didn't know anything about black history and slavery and so it was a very difficult but but I had love there which was the most important thing yeah um but in the racing it was like you know like kids you just want to enjoy yourself you want to be included and you know when you're kind of outcast a little bit it's um it's difficult for kids you know and so that's why today like I'm like if I'm posting something I hope that when I do click that button I hope that it is a positive wave for some of the kids out there that are being distracted by all the stuff that's going on around the world yeah I mean I was I was telling you earlier I was so grateful came out to watch you in Austin a couple of weeks ago and got to meet your dad and I heard you talk about your dad in that way before and so when I met him I was it was I was just you know it's nice to share that with him and I was just saying how beautiful it is to see your relationship and and how it's evolved it's always been that way yeah yeah that's what I thought yeah yeah to walk us through whatever you feel my dad has been like the leader in getting me you know he had four jobs at one stage just to keep us go-karting because when we all started gokind most of the people were majority of the people were from working class families um so but then there are of course a few wealthier kids that have slightly better access to equipment and um mechanics and all those sorts of things and my dad was my mechanic so it was just me and him on the road and and my stepmom Linda um she would be there supporting um making sure that we're fully clothed making sure that we we've eaten and we're hydrated all those sorts of things for the weekend prepare my kid um so it was very much a family outing it was a family kind of um family weekend we did it as a family um we've traveled together my little brother would be on the road with us as well who's a major inspiration you've definitely got to speak to me one day um born with Cerebral Palsy um when I was seven and is a speaker today so he's and racing he's done he's defined all the odds and wow uh even though he's seven years younger than me still very much an inspiration but the thing with my dad was he was maybe he was my manager all the way till I was like 20 I got to we got to phone one and he was he worked so hard his work ethic for me was that that's was inspiring for me seeing how hard he worked the time he gets up in the morning the little sleep that he would have end of his day in the garage working on the go-kart preparing for the weekend packing up the track and getting us to where we are mechanicing learning to be a better mechanic and and still weighing all these different things it was quite phenomenal to see um but I think it was difficult for him to then show me love and sometimes you just want to hug from your dad you know or when you're facing these things you want to be able to be embraced but um when I think I got to when I was 22 23 it got really intense when I got to form one because all of a sudden you're thrown into you go through karting and cars you don't go to school to to learn to speak to the media you're literally thrown into the pit and at the time I didn't have management other than my dad my stepmom were booked flights and trips but um I didn't have PR I didn't have anybody to help protect me or prepare me for things driving I was good I would say but in these things is where a lot of mistakes happened um you've got the the kind of all the media attention and you have to so you're just learning on the go which was very difficult for a youngster I think yeah absolutely and and also I just you wanted to try and live some sort of normal normal life but nothing's normal for you at the time and the thing for me and my dad were just we're really bumping his at one stage it's like I really just want you to be my dad so we can let's go and have fun let's go and have a laugh but we hadn't had that for a long time and so um eventually I decided to sit part ways for my dad and I was like I'm gonna start making some of the decisions for myself and the mistakes that I'm gonna need to make and there was definitely a period of time where we spoke less um but we both have worked so hard to come back together and we have one of the greatest you know he's the first person I want to call when I finish a race um because I know he knows what it's like he was there from day one and so you know he's been to the last two races with me he's probably gonna come to the next one there's days where I do feel like I'm not enough there's days where I don't feel like I'm good enough and people be like yeah but you've won seven World titles anyway yeah but still there's days where I question no you still got it you still are you can you still be the best yes you can and so I have to just always I'm having that conversation with myself often but my dad's also there sometimes I'll say something that's maybe not the most positive and he'll be the one there just reaffirming no you've got this believe in yourself and it's so important for people to have people like that around them and I support myself I surround myself with other positive people as well and we continue I think it's all our job to lift every as many you know everyone up right I want everyone around me to win and yeah um and to become the best versions of themselves so no thank you for sharing that as well thank you for opening up about that because yeah I think the relationships we have with our parents are just so significant when it comes to achievement and success and when you start doing sport at your level even at an early age wins and losses starts becoming so important so win and loss is important in everyone's life in the sense that everyone has it in exams in school and things like that which we'll talk about in a second as well but for you you're having a in a very over way like you have one two three and then you have everyone else and and how have you kind of worked with that since you're young because I can imagine that your psychology can become very much like if you win things are great if you lose things are bad how have you kind of processed that as time's gone on and was there a time when it was unhealthy and difficult and has it got better or is it something you're always working on so on one side of things you know I struggled at school as I said so the teachers would write these reports that I was not focused or I wasn't doing well and and I remember the fear of that report every year and I try so hard to do well and then these teachers I don't know if teachers out there realize when they write those reports what's happening back at home whether you have an abusive uh household or you know the the stress of that was was difficult I feel embracing if I if I would win I could see a smile on my dad's face and it was really like okay if I do well at this I know that I'll be accepted you know um but I go to work double hard to be I've got to always be first I always laugh about the whole if you're not first you last because I'm literally whilst that's obviously I've not been fresh my whole life first was everything yeah um in order to be accepted in order to fit in and maybe to be appreciated um not only in within my relationship perhaps with my dad but then also around my friends and it was until I got older I realized it's about the bigger picture but when you have success it's so short-lived it's like it really is really short-lived you win a race then you go back home and you have big as a racing driver you know the weekend's so intense you've seen it there's so much energy so much it's really really in a stressful environment for everyone that's working within it then you go home and there's a huge come down like one or two days later and you're trying to balance those emotions that emotional rollercoaster um and learning to kind of channel that and figure out ways to keep it balanced whether with your routine and those sorts of things has been really key for me but I think during the last couple of last few years really understanding that it's about the bigger picture um I'm fighting for something far greater than winning a race I'm really fighting for changing the world you know we're more divided than ever I would say it's devastating I can't watch the news it's devastating every there's so much happening but there are so many great people out there that are doing really great things and I want to be one of I want to be a part of that [Music] inspirational energy bubble that people like yourselves are a part of um because we want to we need to create a brighter future we need to create better Future Leaders look how many look how bad our leaders are that are in governments you know like we need to be as part of the next generation of thought leaders um that are positive and um yeah so that's what I'm trying to be a part of every day I'm so I'm really trying to focus on my intentions as you're talking about like setting your intentions each day um I'm trying to learn new tools that I didn't have when I was a kid I didn't I didn't know about yoga I didn't know about meditation um I didn't have podcasts to listen to good people to listen to and aspire to kind of help me put on the right path so yeah um yeah we've got a lot of work to do there's almost not enough time here on this planet right we're here for such a short time really in the Scale of the Universe yeah but I think you're one of those people that you know and that's when we first connected that was one of the biggest reasons for me that I saw you using your platform for a bigger purpose I was like oh that's fascinating like that's so interesting to me because that's a choice too I think today we kind of assume that if someone has a platform or if someone's you know number one in their field or if someone's got followers that they should talk about stuff we kind of assume that anyone who has followers should talk about stuff first of all I don't think that's the case I think a lot of people choose not to uh but but you were someone that stood out to me massively where I was just like wow this person's really not just winning on on the track but it's thinking about how winning on the track transfers to what you can do off the track because of the influence because of your network because of your impact and I find that to be really The Missing Link for so many people because I always say that your purpose is something not just that makes you happy it's when you use what makes you happy to serve other people like when you use it to impact other people's lives when did that drop for you like when did that click for you like were you ever I guess what I'm trying to say is there's a transition when you're saying that well you know winning like maybe get the nod from my dad and obviously I was bullied and then I'm winning but then I'm number one at something like was there a point at which number one didn't satisfy you or was there a point at which the success that came from it or or you didn't actually have to get dissatisfied you just found that there was a better way to be successful does that make sense the parv that was striking when you're just saying that for me it was like I feel like we often live in fear of what people think um how you're going to be judged how you're going to be received if you you're free outspoken you're going to lose your job you're going to be fired I've always been a outspoken person I think that's just been a quality I've never been a follower um I don't like to conform to how people expect what people of what people expect from you as I said I was having a success and I was like okay now I'm on I'm at the top what can I do with it yeah and there are so many causes there's so many problems out there and there's so many so many amazing causes and which one you know there's only one of you so like what where do you put the focus and that's take it took a long long time to really find what that was for me I think for me education was something that I felt extremely passionate about because I I've been out to India I'd been out into some of the really poorest places like Manila and seeing young kids who are like us but begging for food and not having the same opportunities and for me that was that broke my heart and realized how privileged we are and how fortunate we are it was like I want to be working with people out there that are trying to create more you know there's over 100 million kids that don't have access to school or education so how can I get involved in that so align yourself with people that do but I think I was I was winning and it was giving me that tip of happiness but then I would kind of drop back down to normality and there was something missing and it was that purpose really or understanding what that purpose was and understanding what why you've been put here why are you beginning the platform that you've that you've been given why were the only you know only people of color this whole time through it all and when I started speaking about um diversity people like oh you want to get more people of coloring as as racing drivers only 20 of us so as I know it's this forty thousand forty fifty thousand jobs there's thousands of engineering jobs in the background and there's such a lack of diversity coming through I want to be a part of Shifting that narrative and shifting that conversation and having people be question themselves and have those difficult conversations with with people so I first I just started by having those difficult conversations with my boss and one of the things he brings up that he said that hit him hard I said have you ever thought of as a white person walking into the paddock into the race weekend Paddock and being the only white person there he's like he's like I hadn't even thought of that I said well that's what it's like for someone like me when I'm in the room you noticed you noticed that out of 50 people in a meeting you're the only person the black person there and it's not because we are less is because there are these barriers within Society through education that are limiting people to be the best they can be so my job is to be empowering and improving representation I'm really really passionate like black Equity as well so that's why I got involved with the Denver Broncos Denver Broncos yeah yeah and usually when I'm in conversation with sponsors or companies I'm like hey so what it how diverse is your team what are you doing about diversity inclusion how are you creating a better work workspace for people that's what I want to be a part of I the success can come later and that's that would be along the way but if you're not asking those questions or you're not tackling those issues then we're not blind yeah and so all them pretty much every partner that we have we have a lot of Partners within our team I've asked these really difficult questions and they're like oh you know what but we can do more I'm like well let's do it you know yeah so I think I've grown very close with my like Mercedes-Benz and Gamma they've been so open that we changed the car from Silver to Black in 2020. and as again I said to them like the car's been silver forever it's always been silver arrows and I was like imagine if we change the card to Black well that could you know us turning up and arriving is how you show up and it's how you know imagine the message we can send and we had the black car for the whole year and we didn't even really talk much about it we just let it be and we went with it and that's when I won myself with that car so that's beautiful now that must have felt special it was honestly my whole life flashed by my not that last lap in Turkey my whole life like all the struggles the questioning whether you were going to make it or not just all those doubts all those fears kind of flash by Me by you know through my eyes and came across the line and I was like I did it and I wanted the kids out there to know that you can do it too you know um so that's what I try and like every day just try to be encouraging of kitchen yeah yeah do you sometimes feel that we were talking about this a bit earlier that you know in other sports we get to see the emotions and the expressions of players that we love or you know anyone who's on the court or the field of the pitch whereas with you because we don't get to see that in your eyes in your last lap like that we can only hear it today which is why I'm so grateful to have this moment because I obviously whenever whenever I'm sit down with someone who's a high performer like you it's obvious that there's so much emotion and preparation and power but with racing specifically you just don't get to see that do you sometimes feel that the only people that can truly relate to you are the people you compete with because I feel like it's like you said there's only 20 of you that are racing anyway it's lonely anyway 99 of people in the world have no idea what it feels like to drive a car as fast as you do and the way you do in in any comparison do you sometimes feel that the only people you can relate to are the people that are racing against you and then do you kind of feel is there a loneliness in that experience or is that kind of like a power in that as well definitely the other drivers I do feel that there's more we have a lot more in common than we think but we're so competitive and a lot of us have our defense like you want to beat the guy but then you like the guy you might like the person outside the car but you can't show that like there's this whole psychological battle you're having with yourself and getting away of yourself a lot of the time so I really feel like as an older driver I'm trying to be more like reaching out to youngsters and um because they're the future you know um and I'm excited to see some of these young drivers are coming through are so so talented I don't know if they've got the best structure around them like I mean like I didn't necessarily have the ultimate structure that I perhaps have now so just try to be a kind of a positive light to them but naturally none of them are black and none of them have necessarily faced the same as me but they've faced their own challenges and and things about respecting that with within everybody and I've tried to be create allies necessarily like in having the difficult conversations with some of them I mean I'm so grateful for I've had a couple of them it really took the knee with me in 2020 um just on that you know my dad was going back to the house with my dad my dad like never let me cry as a kid he said there's a sign of weakness like don't let me ever see you shed a tear so I remember just holding back through those difficult times as a kid holding back most of that stuff in 2020 I cried I hadn't cried for at least I think at least 10 years maybe more it was there was a lot of bottled up stuff that came up that I had not realized that didn't even know about suppressing a pain or a feeling so I remember kind of bending on my knees thinking no what has happened in the world I've got to I've got to be outspoken I've got to take that chance because if I don't do it then no one's gonna do it if I don't if I don't take the knee if I don't let people like me know that I care and I hear you and I'm I'm with you and I'm going to do something about it I'm going to risk it all I don't care if my partners want to drop me because I want to be associated with this narrative I don't I'm like and I literally let go of all the fear and that's why I went came so forward with it and I know it's not easy for everyone to do that um but I just want to really and try to encourage people out there too to be themselves to speak out if they've got a problem if they're seeing something within the work working environment or experiencing something you gotta be outspoken about it and there's a right way to do it the first day I was going to take the knee I remember I didn't feel like I could tell my team I was like because I know I felt that they wouldn't understand how important it is for me to do this this day so I remember I had my black lives matter a shirt hidden and I just wore it out there and I I went ahead within so no one knew no one knew but every uh the sport had built and made all these t-shirts like um we race as one yeah slogan and they gave these t-shirts to all the to everybody I was like I'm not wearing that that's not what this is about and so this is what I'm doing and this was around George Floyd right yeah and afterwards my team were like well why don't you if you just told us we could have prepared a bit over I had this fear that they would try and stop me perhaps but that was just a fear um they've been massively supportive through the whole thing My Hope was that you know kids would be watching me like what it what it what is that why is he taking me what what does that shirt mean what is going on Dad Mom and then the parents being in an awkward position having to explain it maybe but I think what was really encouraging for me I think when we started really getting into the whole diversity inclusion we did the research there was only three percent out of two thousand people in the team as three percent diversity so since then we've been on this Mission the team have started new projects we've discovered that the the sport generally hires from one group of universities which is not diverse and if there are any young black students that go there they're twice as unlikely to be hired when they come out compared to their counterparts and also paid less exercises all these things that perhaps people didn't know that's the Hamilton commission right yeah yeah and that just was interesting to to experience that and now now we're working on like a diversity Charter that all the teams have to be a part of and it's not mine it's for the sport and it's to encourage those teams because there's still not any diversity within you know if you look at Ferrari they don't have hardly any there's most teams don't um but when I go back to my team to the factory normally in our marketing department wasn't very diverse initially and I walked in after the pandemic and I started seeing such a more diverse group of people I was really quite emotional because I was like oh my God there's I'm starting to see change but you don't see that on TV yeah so when I talk to the to the bosses of the sport I'm like hey you know there's all white men facing oh and and me facing the camera at the start of the race where are the women where are the people of color we've got to be showing some young kids are watching and they're like oh there's a place for me there I can be there I can be an engineer I can be a mechanic or whatever it may be and even for young girls oh I can be a racing driver or an engineer a strategist or whatever you know so representation's so so key to inspiring the young youth especially in these industries that they already have less access to right like that's the point that it's not just it's not just representation because you want them to even have the opportunity it's the fact that there's just no access point which is what you're trying to create I think what's what I find really beautiful about you doing it is you're doing it though when you're like I'm having all my emotions come up at the same time as trying to be a voice for other people and when you're saying like I'm I'm taking a knee because I know I have to make a stand externally but internally you're taking a knee because so much of your own stuff from years ago is coming back up like that must be quite hard when you're that's that strikes me as something that's really inspiring about what you did is that you were going through your own healing at the same time as trying to do healing for the world there is so much healing to do right and I was completely oblivious to that I needed healing I needed to really peel back some of those layers um I think for people that turn into tune into a race and you mentioned earlier on but when you we arrive everything's set up We There is work that we're doing in the background naturally people don't see they just see a show but there is an unbelievable amount of work that goes on in the background um when I talk to people that talk about how much weight you lose they're like yeah you just sit in the car and you drive um there's this huge psychological and emotional roller coaster that you're going through that it would be really hard for people to comprehend and you would mention about all these other athletes you see their faces in other sports you can't see because we've got helmet on but you go through this roller coaster ride in the race and then you get out and they the camera's right in your face you're not prepared for that your emotions are shot particularly if you failed or feel like you failed and you don't always answer the right way if you wear your your heart on your sleeve people that don't necessarily like that necessary always people take advantage of that so then you build up all these protection mechanisms and mechanisms that's not necessarily you and at the core but won't be the safest thing for you you know what I mean like I read something the other day about it's like three steps of you and there's one the one of which you present your uh who you present there's you and your who you are to you and your family and friends and then there's one the part of you the real you that no one ever gets to see and I think just today in today's world it's so vicious on social media it's the media can be you know can really tell you apart and you build up you know like you you make a mistake in something you say in the media and your ridicule Feud you never do it again so you build up and you go more and more in your shell and you become harder for people to really relate to but I think for me what I've realized in these last few years is really peeling back those layers and you know letting people know that I grew up in a council state I you know I've lived on the sofa with my uh my my parents we've had those struggles um the successful people out there you see they too have had those things where we need to show that young kids who are going through that same thing that oh I can if he can get there or they can get there then it must be possible for me too yeah um and like being showing you about vulnerability that's something that I really struggled to to to do for a long long time and um like today that's something I think I'm a lot more open than I've ever ever been yeah I'm not living in fear every day and that's like the most that's the most important thing I think for me personally I'm living a much happier life because I'm I'm a lot more open yeah it's liberating yeah absolutely yeah it's liberating when you finally feel like you're not trapped or you're hiding held or yeah or hiding yeah or hiding my favorite quotes is from my Angelo when she says we are all powerful beyond measure and that really hit home also for me that that's my favorite quote because and I have a tattooed because really we are so we do limit ourselves we get in our own way right along with the other things that get in our way but a lot of our fear stops us from driving forwards from progressing and that's why like I do the craziest things I jump out of planes yeah you've done what 80 jumps yeah like just just I love challenging myself and doing things even though there's maybe fear there but overcoming that fear is like it's the best feeling when you overcome it and you realize that she was all just a bunch of nonsense in your head I want to encourage so all my friends I'm like let's go and do this today they're like are you crazy my dad don't even think as a kid my dad was like is he really my son because I wouldn't do any of these things and even still today um I still find that he's actually done skydiving with my Dad yeah he said he would never do it but he did it so but driving 200 miles per hour is probably one of the scariest things that you do all the time like that's not for you anymore whatever things I've never had that fear yeah uh as a kid and I was just never you know I think if you go on a ski slope and you see these kids coming by the kids are generally Fearless right yeah but think as you go get older yes you start you hurt yourself a little bit you start protecting yourself more and more but I just don't have that I think I feel like that was something that just wasn't necessarily put in me I'm terrified of spiders yeah that's the only thing but I'm doing 200 miles an hour that's actually when I'm most at peace I would say yeah it's like I'm like flowing it's like my that's my element and that's why I like I love doing what I do it could be really really hard when I start racing I've been doing for 30 years I'm 37 I've been racing 30 years and when you stop like what what's gonna match that nothing's gonna have a probably a match being in the stadium or being at the race and being at the Pinnacle the sport being at the front of the greater or coming through the grid that motion that I get there when I do stop that will be a there'll be a big hole Yeah so I'm trying to generally focus on things find things that are going to replace that that will also be just as rewarding and that's like Mission 44 for me meeting kids at schools having these conversations with families and parents who clearly you're going through difficult times and want to create the best opportunity for their kids encouraging them they're like okay I've been there too look where I got so you can get there it's just got to work through it that's for me the that's way more rewarding than winning the race yeah so much more yeah that's I'm so grateful and I'm so happy that everyone's gonna getting to hear this I felt you're the only and I know you know you're talking about when that happens but it's brilliant that you're planning already because you can see how so many athletes mentally when they know their career has somewhat of a shelf life or a somewhat of a time span like it's so hot it's it just completely wrote but I remember you're reminding me of when I had the fortune of sitting down with Kobe Bryant and I said sat down with him when he'd already retired wow and I interviewed him oh so great I'm so jealous he was one of those people that was not upset being retired he loved it because he knew that his mission for him was to make these short movies and make all these uh Sports based content to inspire kids to tell their stories and to help them find better stories and so it's exactly what you're saying where he wasn't he's one of those people that I've met he was not sad about he was so happy he was so pumped that's what I'm working towards yeah because he he knew that he had a mission and he had a purpose and he'd gone and won an Oscar for a short movie that he'd made and you know he was creating content to inspire kids and that's where his heart was and of course watching his daughters play and so I'm super inspired by him yeah I know but yeah like when you said that that's what I remembered and and he was in the same boat he was like I always wanted to script right and never had time to script right he said I was always playing basketball and he goes but then I started script writing and I got a coach and then I was writing and getting better as a writer that's what I think when I've spoken to other athletes we focused so much on that being the best you can be and that one thing that the other things that you also love like if it's playing an instrument or if it's writing scripts like it all falls everything falls away and yeah um how can you come compartmentalize staying in the in the zone in the focus Lane but also building up some of those other skills and discovering other passions you know people's we've heard people tell LeBron shut up and dribble like yeah that's there there's a lot of people put you in the box and say this you can only do one thing but as I've seen and spoken to some people that are active and retired a lot of them say when particularly when they retire that they everything kind of fell apart like everything fell to the ground they had nothing to back it up with and they hadn't discovered what they're doing next so then they go through this emotional Journey um of of Discovery but it takes time so I'm like trying to learn from those things and applying them and find the other things that I'm passionate about so I generally feel today that I have lots of things in the pipeline that when I do stop it's gonna be like so grateful but I have something better that I'm moving on to yeah um but I I have no doubts that I oh me and my dad will always have to go to the go-kart track or something you know I'm always going to be competitive yeah I can't that's literally a strain in My DNA that's just never gonna gonna shift I'm competitive at everything I'm happy to hear that it's it's it's I'm sure that's refreshing it's great for people to also hear that even to inspire young people or Inspire anyone who's gone to a place in their career where they know that there's a certain moment where things are going to wind down but then they're going to transition I think I don't think we celebrate the transitions enough in life and life is made up of transition absolutely and people think that it's maybe less or something but it's yeah it's it's not about that yeah exactly so it's fascinating you found that what are some of these like you said like um you know I've been doing jumps I've been doing this with my friends what are some of the routines that you put into place to help you manage your mindset because I feel like you're you said that being at 200 miles per hour for the duration of a race is like being in flow for you that means you're extremely comfortable with your own thoughts extremely comfortable with being in a high stress high pressure environment but being just with your own self talk to us about how you I mean it sounds like that's always been the case but what have you done to become more and more comfortable with that yeah I think naturally this is the natural ability right but um I've been out of focus for an hour and 45 minutes without making mistakes and that's that's literally insane it's unbelievable dealing with the pressures um a friend actually asked me last night because I talk about we lose a lot of race a lot of weight in the race yes like sometimes you can lose up to 10 pounds like four kilos and people like whoa I need to be particularly in America they're like oh I need to be a racing driver um for the weight loss but this question is my friend asked me the other day that's like where does the where does the weight go like yeah because my suit doesn't because afterwards I weigh less but the I'm like so it must evaporate you somewhere so I've never got to figure out where all that weight actually truly goes because it obviously isn't in sweat but that's like messed my mind about um but the suit definitely is obviously a little bit heavier but um it's about gaining tools and I think as when I was younger I didn't have I knew how to arrive at the race I channeled the so this emotion that I had through whatever those difficulties were into my driving so it's laser focused like if you watch a video for me when I was five years old on Blue Pizza you'll see I'm just laser focused but um being able to control emotions being out to be calm and present staying centered there are loads of obviously different methods that people can use so things that I try to that I've started to incorporate over the years more in my life is things like stretching things like yoga and meditation has been a real that for me was something that I never thought that that I kind of turned a blind eye to it when I was younger I thought that's not gonna be helpful but being able to be sit still for a second and listen to the noises around you um and understand you want to tap into that kind of in a child or whatever it may be that's for me been taking that moment for yourself each day treating yourself with love and being kind to yourself you know because I think for a long time I wasn't kind to myself and that's been a process uh doing things that being purposeful and and having real certain intentions each day no matter how big or small and you know I wake up I'm looking in the mirror brushing your teeth then stop for a second sake this today's gonna be the day today's gonna be great um and no matter what you're faced with you know just whatever you come out with yeah yeah talking to yourself also speaking to people I think is very important I think as a kid as I said I didn't feel like I could speak to people I didn't feel like I could tell my mom about these experiences I felt embarrassed I couldn't tell my dad so I thought he would fulfill think less of me I couldn't talk to any of the teachers couldn't tell my most my friends most of them uh weren't particularly of color so but finding learning to be open and speak to people or find someone to speak to whether it's a therapist or whatever that's that's been a huge um help um I don't not necessarily have a therapist especially someone that I'm able to then just have shoot a with basically yeah um and confide in and Trust like trust has been something that I've never had done didn't trust anybody through those experiments I had as a kid and it's been very very hard to build trust with people but creating allies finding things that are that you have in common with people like my boss for example him and I just breaking each other down and then just having realizing that was similar in many many ways but also very different but that's not what should divide us we can then be allies and so that's why we're working on being the most diverse team we're working on pushing we have we've studied ignite which is about getting you know improving that pipeline of into motorsport for people um from underserved communities and there's so much work to do you're doing it though man I'm trying to I'm trying to and you know to the point you were asking earlier like has has enough been done absolutely not in the industry yes and like you don't feel that yeah and it's not only in either industry it's everywhere and is that your goal to sort in the industry and then expand out or you're starting you're starting across the board anyway yeah yeah that well with the team with where it's we started an organization which called ignite which we both fund and that is focused on the sport Motorsport in general but Mission 44 is focused on a much you know societal challenges and barriers and and education and um that's a focused in the UK at the moment but I want to bring that over to the states absolutely man um you know hopefully by at least 2024 um also just been to Africa and there is so much Beauty there and I really really want to have an imp you know really want to help there as well so yeah um we will continue to expand but we're one of the one of the few black founding non-profit organizations in UK and with um black CEO for example a very diverse group of people um and just having those conversations with people of just what a diverse Workforce means and how that bet can benefit you when you have people from different backgrounds all coming up with a diverse diverse thought and creation it's that's how you have more success yeah it's a no it's a no-brainer when you hear it and you're just like wow that makes so much sense and creativity is better and you you'd be able to come up with far more innovative ideas and you've got so many more cultures now being celebrated involved and I I feel like it's it's interesting to me that the world hasn't caught on with that yet like it's it's interesting that even despite there being progress there's not enough progress but what what is the block like what is the stop is it a mindset is it just habits and laziness like what is the actual like if you got to the core of it from everyone you've been speaking to like what are you what is the issue is the issue that yeah is the issue just laziness and just oh this is the way things have always been or is it or is there actually like a setup I don't have the answer to it I I ask that question all the time and I come up with lots of different theories in my mind um sometimes I'm like maybe people don't just don't care maybe people's problems are so big that they don't have time to focus on other things and it's hard enough just to do the thing that you're focused on or just overcoming the issue that you're overcoming so how am I gonna have more time to yeah to speak about these things why should I take the risk and risk my next step and so I feel like it's about learning to be selfless right and um which is difficult to do if you're not being loving yourself and not in a good place yeah so I think it all comes to us at hopefully a time at a certain point in our lives um but also you know we live in a time where like social media is so it's such a dangerous it's such a powerful tool but it's also can be so dangerous and so dividing and I see people out there today and there's people that I admire that I'm that that I would follow and I'd be like how they projecting something that's not necessarily healthy for you for people out there how are they projecting they're not using this platform to be more inspirational or be more positive and there's others that are but then I don't you can't judge because that's their Journey well you can continue to do is try to you know with that Maya Angelou quote it's about being shining your light as bright as you can possibly get it and hope that by doing it you I think you automatically uh encourage the people around you to want to do the same and I never truly understood that until I see the team that I work with how we all Inspire each other how with this year for example we've had the you know 2022 has been one of the hardest years for us as a team um as we didn't build a great car and we had our struggles as many people do and how we've had to all come closer and the relationship I've had with people that I've worked with this team for 10 years and there's conversations we've had this year people have opened up like they've never opened up before people have cried like it's been it's been beautiful to see yeah I feel like with some a far better team than we've ever been before because we're living with intention we're actually talking about impact that everyone in the team's gone and had diversity inclusion training no one's been kind of like I'm not I'm not going through that class why do I have to go and learn with diversity and inclusions about it I'm and why it doesn't impact me you know people like I understand it doesn't I wouldn't necessarily notice it but I want to understand it more so I can be better in my working environment it's been unbelievable that's amazing also leaders within our sport are now now where we are on a road to being a more diverse and more inclusive sport but I think my job is to continuously make sure that it that that same the effort that we're putting in now doesn't kind of fall away and become kind of you know just because it was um trending yeah yeah yeah that is actually something that's on the top of the list sustainability is on the top of our list and that real true core values we don't go out of our way well you know because a lot of people it's very easy to kind of be led by the money success but making sure you stick to your core values it's so true so important it goes back to what you said though that that's what real leaders do like leaders don't follow what's trending like leaders have focused on transformation and then they're dedicated to transformation and they're going to keep doing it until they see a change whereas followers follow Trends and oh it's not trending now it doesn't matter we'll focus on something else but you know obviously it's so clear just listening to you today and it's amazing Because unless I'm so glad I've had this opportunity to talk to you because I can hear just how deeply dedicated you are to this and how it's at your core it's like it's everything that comes out of your pores today is just you know which is which is really special to see a value being embodied like to empower other people you have to embody the value first it doesn't just you don't just go around empowering people and so to hear how your soul and heart is like completely a sponge for this stuff and then to wanting to go and share it with the world it's really remarkable man ah thank you yeah well I mean it's I've I'm by far perfect no yeah I know and I think that's like it's not about being perfect it's about just every day one step at a time trying to be better trying to do more yeah and um learning a lot about myself I've had to break myself down in order to be able to be better and what do you mean by breaking yourself down uh well just when you when I told you about like all those barriers you put up over time to protect yourself and then kind of like knocking those barriers down yes and it's enabled me to connect with more people it's enabled me to realize my place in the world and I don't feel like I don't belong anymore I feel like uh you know I've got a place and I've got a purpose and that's and I think a lot of people are struggling to find that purpose but it's okay you'll you will find it do not give up keep getting up you know like just keep saying those things to yourself and you will eventually find it and you know you're already living in your purpose and having such a huge impact on so many people you know telling stories which uh is it's amazing to see um I started this production company inspired by like Kobe and so many out there but stories for me storytelling I watch a lot of movies I don't know about you but yeah I love movies especially Sports movies yeah like when I go home I'll like I you know order takeaway or make myself some pasta or something like that and then I put the plate in front of me and I can't eat till I found something to watch like my my Escape is watching a movie and I always like to find something hopefully inspiring yes but what the reason I created this um production company is because you know until recently we didn't have any people of color are superheroes We I think these stories storytelling is so so important for people out there for inspiring people and and I want to make sure that in and everything that I do every project that I work on is with a diverse Workforce like I'm doing this from one movie with um Brad Pitt and Joe kazinski and um but my job is to make sure that it's diverse behind the camera as it is on screen the story is empowering and uplifting um it's not there's no BS in terms of the racing and hopefully one kid will watch it and yeah or more and feel empowered to go and do something great absolutely I love that man I'm so glad you're doing that because when you said do I like movies the movie that came to my mind was uh race have you seen race because yeah so like that the story is unbelievable but when you watch the movie as well it's unbelievable to see what Jesse Owens did like to think that he had to go I can't even imagine I can't you know you just can't imagine if everyone's not seen the movie you have to go see them yeah it's just one of those movies that's like how do you do that like how do you go and race in Nazi Germany like I have like I must have been terrified terrifying and you know there's been so many great stories like that that are out there that need telling yeah um continuously telling yeah 42 is another one yeah 42 is awesome um but yeah there is these really unique people out there I think for me being in this sport being the only one and being the first is that is that has been lonely yeah and that has been really really a difficult thing to kind of understand and and um through my life I know many many people like Jesse for example being the first and only at the time you know I've taken huge inspiration from him Nelson Mandela was like ah he's just one of my biggest biggest Inspirations um I was so so fortunate to get to meet him when I was I was like 23 or something oh wow what was that like yeah ah it was mind-blowing I mean when you when you then I got to form one and you have the success all these things come and you don't even you've dreamed of being a racing driver but you didn't dream that all the other things of all the other things that come along like meeting other unbelievable people I went to Nelson Mandela's 90th birthday in London and I was sat on his table in this huge room full of like Bill Clinton was there like uh Denzel Washington was there open Winfrey sat right next to me like all these people that you would never ever in the million years dream of think you would ever get to meet yeah and then you discover and they're also just human beings with feelings and with emotions and with their own challenges but I was so young at the time it was it was I don't even recognize myself when I look back at me seven years ago I see a shell of me and I think I look today and see myself and know myself so much more um and that's again that's an empowering experience to be in but yeah I went into the room and met him and he sat at his chair and it was like walking into I was like God or like a king you know and his silk shirt was his Aura was something you could see his Aura his smile he was beaming that was the most probably the most impactful day for me um as a youngster wow Lewis it's unbelievable talking to you I mean what you've achieved on the track off the track and now I'm even more excited to see you continue to achieve uh as your journey continues because I'm going to say this and I don't say this often and I genuinely my team can vouch for and everyone else can listen back to any episode I think you're one of the most on-purpose people I've ever interviewed and I appreciate that no and I genuinely like it just there's nothing else that comes from your being apart from what your purpose currently is with Mission 44 and and it's it's really remarkable to meet someone who's so on purpose I don't I genuinely don't have that experience and the only person you reminded me of was Kobe he had it too when I was around him there was no there's nothing else it wasn't like he missed anything he was at peace he was it was peace with purpose you know and you have that same Aura and spirit from from at least my experience thank you so much it's so kind of you yeah and I really mean that I really mean that it's incredible so uh we we end every episode with a Fast Five which means every question has to be answered in one word to one sentence maximum okay and we ask these same questions to every guest that's ever been on the show I should be prepared for that because I've seen you so well no the the first question is what's the best advice you've ever heard or received I think it was the achieve my dad uh never give up that's been like the slogan in the back of my mind every single day the other one would be um just that you'll always be learning and that's what I learned from Nelson Mandela he was like I'm 19 and I'm still learning today and like I was like what can you tell me it's like I'm still learning today and it's okay to be learning you're always going to be learning something new and growing yourself wow that's beautiful very like wow but like guys that was pretty basic but no but it's not it's it's powerful knowing he said that yeah as in the fact that he said that on his 90th birthday that is powerful because it's a long way to go yeah and it's like a lot of people I feel like a lot of people feel by 90 especially him he has so much wisdom to share yeah but the fact that his wisdom was I'm just learning that yeah I'm still learning that's pretty cool all right second question uh what's the worst advice you ever heard or received give up it's just the opposite yeah yeah literally the worst bit of advice and it wasn't I mean it wasn't necessarily advice but I when I was younger there was other parents of other racing drivers I was racing against I remember this one guy and he's like she just you just don't have it you should just give up their parents were saying their parents the grown man in these 40s or 50s told me that and I was eight told you told me yeah to my face and I remember just being so like what am I supposed to do with that what do you mean give up what was the reason I would imagine because I was beating his kid maybe I don't know I never really thought of what the reason would be and the same with teachers you know yeah what is this crap you know you're terrible at this you'll never know go to the next set you're never gonna amount to anything why are you even here I had a parent I had a teacher tell me that and wow it broke me down so much question number three uh how do you deal with loss and how do you deal with the win I think success is as I mentioned earlier short-lived success is there's a lot less learn in succ	so that's beautiful now that must have felt special it was honestly my whole life flashed by my not that last lap in Turkey my whole life like all the struggles the questioning whether you were going to make it or not just all those doubts all those fears kind of flash by Me by you know through my eyes and came across the line and I was like I did it and I wanted the kids out there to know that you can do it too you know um so that's what I try and like every day just try to be encouraging of kitchen yeah yeah do you sometimes feel that we were talking about this a bit earlier that you know in other sports we get to see the emotions and the expressions of players that we love or you know anyone who's on the court or the field of the pitch whereas with you because we don't get to see that in your eyes in your last lap like that we can only hear it today which is why I'm so grateful to have this moment because I obviously whenever whenever I'm sit down with someone who's a high performer like you it's obvious that there's so much emotion and preparation and power but with racing specifically you just don't get to see that do you sometimes feel that the only people that can truly relate to you are the people you compete with because I	8	6	4	so that's beautiful now that must have felt special it was honestly my whole life flashed by my not that last lap in Turkey my whole life like all the struggles the questioning whether you were going to make it or not just all those doubts all those fears kind of flash by Me by you know through my eyes and came across the line and I was like I did it and I wanted the kids out there to know that you can do it too you know um so that's what I try and like every day just try to be encouraging of kitchen yeah yeah	do you sometimes feel that we were talking about this a bit earlier that you know in other sports we get to see the emotions and the expressions of players that we love or you know anyone who's on the court or the field of the pitch whereas with you because we don't get to see that in your eyes in your last lap like that we can only hear it today which is why I'm so grateful to have this moment because I obviously whenever whenever I'm sit down with someone who's a high performer like you it's obvious that there's so much emotion and preparation and power but with racing specifically you just don't get to see that do you sometimes feel that the only people that can truly relate to you are the people you compete with because I	8,6,8	3,5,2	8	6	8	3	5	2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyiWKXTd9aY	4,235	AyiWKXTd9aY	2023-01-23 00:00:00	I think the easiest thing in life is to give up on whatever you know whatever you're focused on or whatever you're hopeful for the hardest thing is to keep going but we have to like we have to continue to hold on and I would imagine for so many people out there that is probably the most difficult thing the best-selling author and host the number one Health and Wellness podcast on purpose with Jay Shetty hey everyone welcome back to on purpose the number one Health podcast in the world thanks to each and every one of you that come back every week to listen learn and grow now I know that our community is dedicated to living happier healthier and more healed lives and I love sitting down with people who are dedicated to their own happiness their own health their own healing and doing that for the world through their work and I have to be honest it's not every day that you get to sit down with someone you admire you're inspired by you look up to and someone who is truly the definition of the word goat uh I'm talking about the one and only sir Lewis Hamilton seven time Formula One World Champion someone with over a hundred race wins considered the most successful F1 driver of all time and Lewis's willingness to embrace what makes him different has defined his values and outlook on life and in 2014 those values saw him win BBC's Sports personality of the Year followed two years later by a position in Time magazine's 100 most influential people list Lewis received both accolades for a second time in 2020 in a year that saw him become a leading voice in the global fight for racial equality in doing so he was recognized as British gq's Game Changer of the year and Powerless most influential black person in the UK and further to this Lewis won the 2020 glorious Sportsman of the Year award and most notably was formally recognized with a Knighthood in 2020 New Year's honors for his outstanding achievements and contribution to Motorsports on the track and off the track Lewis is also passionate activists for so many underrepresented groups and communities his mission 44 is doing incredible work please welcome to on purpose Lewis Hamilton Lewis thank you for being here thank you so much for having me no this honestly is a special one for me it's been one of those ones that you know when I first launched the podcast there were a few names that I wanted to sit down with and you were one of those names so for me it's a very special moment and for this to be your first ever podcast which you just told me I didn't even know and you literally told me this like 10 minutes ago and in my head I'm thinking wow thank I I'm so grateful to have that honor honestly honest mine I'm really so grateful for everything you do and so I've been following and listening to you and you sent me the book a long time ago already so I really appreciate everything you're doing today oh well thank you man thank you and I'm excited to unpack your journey because as we said because it's your first podcast people have heard parts of you but but we don't really understand the depth and the texture of of Lewis Hamilton and so I guess I want to start in a in a different place and we'll we'll kind of go through on this journey I wanted to ask you what do you feel is the hardest thing you've had to do in order to be who you are today I think continuing to have the belief in myself and not letting that Veer off since I was young since I've been told from my teachers that I would never amount to nothing The Bullying or the things that you face at the adversity you face the discrimination and just continue to keep your head up continuing to to march on ahead uh towards your dream and never lose inside now I think that's definitely for sure the most difficult thing is keeping keeping your goal and your eyes set on that and not being distracted um not giving up I think the easiest thing in life is to give up on whatever you know whatever you're focused on or whatever you're hopeful for the hardest thing is to continue to keep going but we have to like we have to continue to hold on and I would imagine for so many people out there that is that it that is probably the most difficult thing yeah I think that's a great answer because I think people look at you and they assume that you never have to make that choice right they see someone in your position someone who's achieved what you've achieved and the Assumption can be oh yeah but he's the greatest he was he was just always that way and he doesn't have to make that choice every day but as you said since the beginning of your life whether it's childhood whether it's breaking into a sport that wasn't set up for you there have been so many moments let's let's go back to school let's talk about some of that more in depth because I feel like a lot of people struggle at school but you kind of went through a lot of altercations and adversities at that time what were some of the things you were hearing some of the bullying some of the racism the experiences that you had that felt limiting or made it feel like it was easier to give up I think for me I mean school was the most probably the most traumatizing and diff most difficult part of my life wow um I already was being bullied at the age of six um I think at the time that particular school I was probably one of three kids of color and just bigger stronger bullying kids were throwing me around a lot of the time I was always the last picked in the you know when you're standing playground in your uh in the line of when they're picking teams for football I was always the last one chosen or not even chosen even if I was better than somebody else um and then the the constant Jabs the things that are either thrown at you like bananas or people that would use the m word just so relaxed um people calling you half cast and you know just really not knowing where you fit in that for me was difficult when you then go into like history class and everything you learn in history there are no people of color in the history that they were teaching us so I was thinking oh well where are the people that look like me and I mean for me in my school there was only around I think there was around seven maybe six seven black kids out of 1200 kids and three of us were else put outside the headmaster's office all the time the Headmaster just had it out for for us and particularly for me I would say so like just juggling all these different emotions that you're feeling plus I struggled at school I didn't find out till I was 16 that I was dyslexic fortunately I came across a teacher that was actually caring and um took me down that road and helped me discover a little bit more about myself and how I can better myself through education but um I think that for me was that was tough also because I was racing every weekend I would leave on the Thursday night we would travel you know pack up the motorhome we'll travel around the country to race on the weekends and no one else knew when I'd got back to school every all the kids have done normal things on the weekend and I'll come back and say I'm I was racing and people would be like oh I've done that before you know like at this at the theme park or something but no one really knew what my goal was and could really they thought we would maybe it was a joke you missed a lot of that social interaction also I was putting all the lowest sets at school and told that if you do well you can progress and then never ever let me progress no matter how hard I tried um so I really felt that the system was really up against me and I was kind of swimming against the tide but I'm so grateful for that that Journey because that's what built me to the person that I am today but there were a lot of things that I suppressed because I I couldn't go home and say hey to my I didn't feel I could go home and talk to my parents that you know these kids kept calling me them where today I got bullied I got beaten up at school today or I you know I wasn't able to defend myself I didn't want my dad to think I was not strong and so I'll you know if I had tears I would hold them back if I had emotions it would be in a quiet place and um it wasn't really till I started racing that I was able to channel this emotion that I had into my driving and it's like when I put this helmet on Superman was my favorite I loved how he fought for the people and I loved how he did the right things and he was a really inspiring character for me but again no superhero was of color so you know but you can still aspire to be someone that's if they don't look like you you know um and so I remember going to karate I remember putting this helmet on in racing and it felt like it was my cloak you know my superpowers had come out when I was driving and I was battling with these kids and I was doing able to do things that they seemed to not be able to do as well and that was my love wow yeah I mean it's my mind was opposite I was bullied a lot at school as well I was one of five people of color in my primary school and I was also overweight and so I was bullied for that and obviously you know my parents are from Indian backgrounds and so they'd gone through it much worse than I did when when they'd moved to England but the difference was that I would go cry to my mum and then my mum would come try and save the day in school and that was the worst that was so embarrassing like your mum's they're telling the teacher what happened and then I'm like oh no Mom don't do this and then it's even more embarrassing because the kids pick on you going oh mum came to say oh yeah yeah Mommy's right yeah so that that was my version of it I wasn't scared of crying to my mum but then it had it had different things but yeah that that's so hard as a kid when you're going through that and you're trying to find yourself you're trying to figure out what confidence is you don't even know what that means you feel like not going to school but then even though you're saying you found it in racing I mean racing was similar because you were working class you're still to this day the only working-class black driver to do as successfully as you have so not only do you have it at school you also have it in your passion like in the thing that is your cloak is your Superman so how does it feel when you're also dealing with it in that area where you've discovered what your passion or your interest is at that age what does it feel like when you're getting in that space it's inescapable you know you use that as an escape but then you're confronted with it also and so I was just grateful that I had this amazing figure in my dad you know I got a you know my best one of my best friends like his dad was never there I know there's not many people that have separated parents and and being shared between parents is not an easy thing um you know some days with your mom and some days we did that my my mum was the soft loving parent so that's where I really I feel like I learned a lot of compassion and empathy that's where I feel like I get it from her and my dad was at that strong like kind of stronger Rock and also just someone that looked like me on and just he would say do you talking on the track don't be distracted by it don't listen to what they're saying do your driving on track and show let's just be quiet and walk away as well as you know um so but you know again like your parents my parents went through well particularly my dad was someone that also face adversity through his life and he's like I want to do everything in my power to create a better life for my kid so that I don't feel or experience the things that I have encountered and through my through my journey and so but I think for me it was also difficult having biracial you know I'm biracial so having a white mother mother for example and a black dad I knew my dad would understand the racial slurs that I surrounded me my mum couldn't understand it so I couldn't really speak to my mum about it she was loving but she's never been educated within it she didn't know anything about black history and slavery and so it was a very difficult but but I had love there which was the most important thing yeah um but in the racing it was like you know like kids you just want to enjoy yourself you want to be included and you know when you're kind of outcast a little bit it's um it's difficult for kids you know and so that's why today like I'm like if I'm posting something I hope that when I do click that button I hope that it is a positive wave for some of the kids out there that are being distracted by all the stuff that's going on around the world yeah I mean I was I was telling you earlier I was so grateful came out to watch you in Austin a couple of weeks ago and got to meet your dad and I heard you talk about your dad in that way before and so when I met him I was it was I was just you know it's nice to share that with him and I was just saying how beautiful it is to see your relationship and and how it's evolved it's always been that way yeah yeah that's what I thought yeah yeah to walk us through whatever you feel my dad has been like the leader in getting me you know he had four jobs at one stage just to keep us go-karting because when we all started gokind most of the people were majority of the people were from working class families um so but then there are of course a few wealthier kids that have slightly better access to equipment and um mechanics and all those sorts of things and my dad was my mechanic so it was just me and him on the road and and my stepmom Linda um she would be there supporting um making sure that we're fully clothed making sure that we we've eaten and we're hydrated all those sorts of things for the weekend prepare my kid um so it was very much a family outing it was a family kind of um family weekend we did it as a family um we've traveled together my little brother would be on the road with us as well who's a major inspiration you've definitely got to speak to me one day um born with Cerebral Palsy um when I was seven and is a speaker today so he's and racing he's done he's defined all the odds and wow uh even though he's seven years younger than me still very much an inspiration but the thing with my dad was he was maybe he was my manager all the way till I was like 20 I got to we got to phone one and he was he worked so hard his work ethic for me was that that's was inspiring for me seeing how hard he worked the time he gets up in the morning the little sleep that he would have end of his day in the garage working on the go-kart preparing for the weekend packing up the track and getting us to where we are mechanicing learning to be a better mechanic and and still weighing all these different things it was quite phenomenal to see um but I think it was difficult for him to then show me love and sometimes you just want to hug from your dad you know or when you're facing these things you want to be able to be embraced but um when I think I got to when I was 22 23 it got really intense when I got to form one because all of a sudden you're thrown into you go through karting and cars you don't go to school to to learn to speak to the media you're literally thrown into the pit and at the time I didn't have management other than my dad my stepmom were booked flights and trips but um I didn't have PR I didn't have anybody to help protect me or prepare me for things driving I was good I would say but in these things is where a lot of mistakes happened um you've got the the kind of all the media attention and you have to so you're just learning on the go which was very difficult for a youngster I think yeah absolutely and and also I just you wanted to try and live some sort of normal normal life but nothing's normal for you at the time and the thing for me and my dad were just we're really bumping his at one stage it's like I really just want you to be my dad so we can let's go and have fun let's go and have a laugh but we hadn't had that for a long time and so um eventually I decided to sit part ways for my dad and I was like I'm gonna start making some of the decisions for myself and the mistakes that I'm gonna need to make and there was definitely a period of time where we spoke less um but we both have worked so hard to come back together and we have one of the greatest you know he's the first person I want to call when I finish a race um because I know he knows what it's like he was there from day one and so you know he's been to the last two races with me he's probably gonna come to the next one there's days where I do feel like I'm not enough there's days where I don't feel like I'm good enough and people be like yeah but you've won seven World titles anyway yeah but still there's days where I question no you still got it you still are you can you still be the best yes you can and so I have to just always I'm having that conversation with myself often but my dad's also there sometimes I'll say something that's maybe not the most positive and he'll be the one there just reaffirming no you've got this believe in yourself and it's so important for people to have people like that around them and I support myself I surround myself with other positive people as well and we continue I think it's all our job to lift every as many you know everyone up right I want everyone around me to win and yeah um and to become the best versions of themselves so no thank you for sharing that as well thank you for opening up about that because yeah I think the relationships we have with our parents are just so significant when it comes to achievement and success and when you start doing sport at your level even at an early age wins and losses starts becoming so important so win and loss is important in everyone's life in the sense that everyone has it in exams in school and things like that which we'll talk about in a second as well but for you you're having a in a very over way like you have one two three and then you have everyone else and and how have you kind of worked with that since you're young because I can imagine that your psychology can become very much like if you win things are great if you lose things are bad how have you kind of processed that as time's gone on and was there a time when it was unhealthy and difficult and has it got better or is it something you're always working on so on one side of things you know I struggled at school as I said so the teachers would write these reports that I was not focused or I wasn't doing well and and I remember the fear of that report every year and I try so hard to do well and then these teachers I don't know if teachers out there realize when they write those reports what's happening back at home whether you have an abusive uh household or you know the the stress of that was was difficult I feel embracing if I if I would win I could see a smile on my dad's face and it was really like okay if I do well at this I know that I'll be accepted you know um but I go to work double hard to be I've got to always be first I always laugh about the whole if you're not first you last because I'm literally whilst that's obviously I've not been fresh my whole life first was everything yeah um in order to be accepted in order to fit in and maybe to be appreciated um not only in within my relationship perhaps with my dad but then also around my friends and it was until I got older I realized it's about the bigger picture but when you have success it's so short-lived it's like it really is really short-lived you win a race then you go back home and you have big as a racing driver you know the weekend's so intense you've seen it there's so much energy so much it's really really in a stressful environment for everyone that's working within it then you go home and there's a huge come down like one or two days later and you're trying to balance those emotions that emotional rollercoaster um and learning to kind of channel that and figure out ways to keep it balanced whether with your routine and those sorts of things has been really key for me but I think during the last couple of last few years really understanding that it's about the bigger picture um I'm fighting for something far greater than winning a race I'm really fighting for changing the world you know we're more divided than ever I would say it's devastating I can't watch the news it's devastating every there's so much happening but there are so many great people out there that are doing really great things and I want to be one of I want to be a part of that [Music] inspirational energy bubble that people like yourselves are a part of um because we want to we need to create a brighter future we need to create better Future Leaders look how many look how bad our leaders are that are in governments you know like we need to be as part of the next generation of thought leaders um that are positive and um yeah so that's what I'm trying to be a part of every day I'm so I'm really trying to focus on my intentions as you're talking about like setting your intentions each day um I'm trying to learn new tools that I didn't have when I was a kid I didn't I didn't know about yoga I didn't know about meditation um I didn't have podcasts to listen to good people to listen to and aspire to kind of help me put on the right path so yeah um yeah we've got a lot of work to do there's almost not enough time here on this planet right we're here for such a short time really in the Scale of the Universe yeah but I think you're one of those people that you know and that's when we first connected that was one of the biggest reasons for me that I saw you using your platform for a bigger purpose I was like oh that's fascinating like that's so interesting to me because that's a choice too I think today we kind of assume that if someone has a platform or if someone's you know number one in their field or if someone's got followers that they should talk about stuff we kind of assume that anyone who has followers should talk about stuff first of all I don't think that's the case I think a lot of people choose not to uh but but you were someone that stood out to me massively where I was just like wow this person's really not just winning on on the track but it's thinking about how winning on the track transfers to what you can do off the track because of the influence because of your network because of your impact and I find that to be really The Missing Link for so many people because I always say that your purpose is something not just that makes you happy it's when you use what makes you happy to serve other people like when you use it to impact other people's lives when did that drop for you like when did that click for you like were you ever I guess what I'm trying to say is there's a transition when you're saying that well you know winning like maybe get the nod from my dad and obviously I was bullied and then I'm winning but then I'm number one at something like was there a point at which number one didn't satisfy you or was there a point at which the success that came from it or or you didn't actually have to get dissatisfied you just found that there was a better way to be successful does that make sense the parv that was striking when you're just saying that for me it was like I feel like we often live in fear of what people think um how you're going to be judged how you're going to be received if you you're free outspoken you're going to lose your job you're going to be fired I've always been a outspoken person I think that's just been a quality I've never been a follower um I don't like to conform to how people expect what people of what people expect from you as I said I was having a success and I was like okay now I'm on I'm at the top what can I do with it yeah and there are so many causes there's so many problems out there and there's so many so many amazing causes and which one you know there's only one of you so like what where do you put the focus and that's take it took a long long time to really find what that was for me I think for me education was something that I felt extremely passionate about because I I've been out to India I'd been out into some of the really poorest places like Manila and seeing young kids who are like us but begging for food and not having the same opportunities and for me that was that broke my heart and realized how privileged we are and how fortunate we are it was like I want to be working with people out there that are trying to create more you know there's over 100 million kids that don't have access to school or education so how can I get involved in that so align yourself with people that do but I think I was I was winning and it was giving me that tip of happiness but then I would kind of drop back down to normality and there was something missing and it was that purpose really or understanding what that purpose was and understanding what why you've been put here why are you beginning the platform that you've that you've been given why were the only you know only people of color this whole time through it all and when I started speaking about um diversity people like oh you want to get more people of coloring as as racing drivers only 20 of us so as I know it's this forty thousand forty fifty thousand jobs there's thousands of engineering jobs in the background and there's such a lack of diversity coming through I want to be a part of Shifting that narrative and shifting that conversation and having people be question themselves and have those difficult conversations with with people so I first I just started by having those difficult conversations with my boss and one of the things he brings up that he said that hit him hard I said have you ever thought of as a white person walking into the paddock into the race weekend Paddock and being the only white person there he's like he's like I hadn't even thought of that I said well that's what it's like for someone like me when I'm in the room you noticed you noticed that out of 50 people in a meeting you're the only person the black person there and it's not because we are less is because there are these barriers within Society through education that are limiting people to be the best they can be so my job is to be empowering and improving representation I'm really really passionate like black Equity as well so that's why I got involved with the Denver Broncos Denver Broncos yeah yeah and usually when I'm in conversation with sponsors or companies I'm like hey so what it how diverse is your team what are you doing about diversity inclusion how are you creating a better work workspace for people that's what I want to be a part of I the success can come later and that's that would be along the way but if you're not asking those questions or you're not tackling those issues then we're not blind yeah and so all them pretty much every partner that we have we have a lot of Partners within our team I've asked these really difficult questions and they're like oh you know what but we can do more I'm like well let's do it you know yeah so I think I've grown very close with my like Mercedes-Benz and Gamma they've been so open that we changed the car from Silver to Black in 2020. and as again I said to them like the car's been silver forever it's always been silver arrows and I was like imagine if we change the card to Black well that could you know us turning up and arriving is how you show up and it's how you know imagine the message we can send and we had the black car for the whole year and we didn't even really talk much about it we just let it be and we went with it and that's when I won myself with that car so that's beautiful now that must have felt special it was honestly my whole life flashed by my not that last lap in Turkey my whole life like all the struggles the questioning whether you were going to make it or not just all those doubts all those fears kind of flash by Me by you know through my eyes and came across the line and I was like I did it and I wanted the kids out there to know that you can do it too you know um so that's what I try and like every day just try to be encouraging of kitchen yeah yeah do you sometimes feel that we were talking about this a bit earlier that you know in other sports we get to see the emotions and the expressions of players that we love or you know anyone who's on the court or the field of the pitch whereas with you because we don't get to see that in your eyes in your last lap like that we can only hear it today which is why I'm so grateful to have this moment because I obviously whenever whenever I'm sit down with someone who's a high performer like you it's obvious that there's so much emotion and preparation and power but with racing specifically you just don't get to see that do you sometimes feel that the only people that can truly relate to you are the people you compete with because I feel like it's like you said there's only 20 of you that are racing anyway it's lonely anyway 99 of people in the world have no idea what it feels like to drive a car as fast as you do and the way you do in in any comparison do you sometimes feel that the only people you can relate to are the people that are racing against you and then do you kind of feel is there a loneliness in that experience or is that kind of like a power in that as well definitely the other drivers I do feel that there's more we have a lot more in common than we think but we're so competitive and a lot of us have our defense like you want to beat the guy but then you like the guy you might like the person outside the car but you can't show that like there's this whole psychological battle you're having with yourself and getting away of yourself a lot of the time so I really feel like as an older driver I'm trying to be more like reaching out to youngsters and um because they're the future you know um and I'm excited to see some of these young drivers are coming through are so so talented I don't know if they've got the best structure around them like I mean like I didn't necessarily have the ultimate structure that I perhaps have now so just try to be a kind of a positive light to them but naturally none of them are black and none of them have necessarily faced the same as me but they've faced their own challenges and and things about respecting that with within everybody and I've tried to be create allies necessarily like in having the difficult conversations with some of them I mean I'm so grateful for I've had a couple of them it really took the knee with me in 2020 um just on that you know my dad was going back to the house with my dad my dad like never let me cry as a kid he said there's a sign of weakness like don't let me ever see you shed a tear so I remember just holding back through those difficult times as a kid holding back most of that stuff in 2020 I cried I hadn't cried for at least I think at least 10 years maybe more it was there was a lot of bottled up stuff that came up that I had not realized that didn't even know about suppressing a pain or a feeling so I remember kind of bending on my knees thinking no what has happened in the world I've got to I've got to be outspoken I've got to take that chance because if I don't do it then no one's gonna do it if I don't if I don't take the knee if I don't let people like me know that I care and I hear you and I'm I'm with you and I'm going to do something about it I'm going to risk it all I don't care if my partners want to drop me because I want to be associated with this narrative I don't I'm like and I literally let go of all the fear and that's why I went came so forward with it and I know it's not easy for everyone to do that um but I just want to really and try to encourage people out there too to be themselves to speak out if they've got a problem if they're seeing something within the work working environment or experiencing something you gotta be outspoken about it and there's a right way to do it the first day I was going to take the knee I remember I didn't feel like I could tell my team I was like because I know I felt that they wouldn't understand how important it is for me to do this this day so I remember I had my black lives matter a shirt hidden and I just wore it out there and I I went ahead within so no one knew no one knew but every uh the sport had built and made all these t-shirts like um we race as one yeah slogan and they gave these t-shirts to all the to everybody I was like I'm not wearing that that's not what this is about and so this is what I'm doing and this was around George Floyd right yeah and afterwards my team were like well why don't you if you just told us we could have prepared a bit over I had this fear that they would try and stop me perhaps but that was just a fear um they've been massively supportive through the whole thing My Hope was that you know kids would be watching me like what it what it what is that why is he taking me what what does that shirt mean what is going on Dad Mom and then the parents being in an awkward position having to explain it maybe but I think what was really encouraging for me I think when we started really getting into the whole diversity inclusion we did the research there was only three percent out of two thousand people in the team as three percent diversity so since then we've been on this Mission the team have started new projects we've discovered that the the sport generally hires from one group of universities which is not diverse and if there are any young black students that go there they're twice as unlikely to be hired when they come out compared to their counterparts and also paid less exercises all these things that perhaps people didn't know that's the Hamilton commission right yeah yeah and that just was interesting to to experience that and now now we're working on like a diversity Charter that all the teams have to be a part of and it's not mine it's for the sport and it's to encourage those teams because there's still not any diversity within you know if you look at Ferrari they don't have hardly any there's most teams don't um but when I go back to my team to the factory normally in our marketing department wasn't very diverse initially and I walked in after the pandemic and I started seeing such a more diverse group of people I was really quite emotional because I was like oh my God there's I'm starting to see change but you don't see that on TV yeah so when I talk to the to the bosses of the sport I'm like hey you know there's all white men facing oh and and me facing the camera at the start of the race where are the women where are the people of color we've got to be showing some young kids are watching and they're like oh there's a place for me there I can be there I can be an engineer I can be a mechanic or whatever it may be and even for young girls oh I can be a racing driver or an engineer a strategist or whatever you know so representation's so so key to inspiring the young youth especially in these industries that they already have less access to right like that's the point that it's not just it's not just representation because you want them to even have the opportunity it's the fact that there's just no access point which is what you're trying to create I think what's what I find really beautiful about you doing it is you're doing it though when you're like I'm having all my emotions come up at the same time as trying to be a voice for other people and when you're saying like I'm I'm taking a knee because I know I have to make a stand externally but internally you're taking a knee because so much of your own stuff from years ago is coming back up like that must be quite hard when you're that's that strikes me as something that's really inspiring about what you did is that you were going through your own healing at the same time as trying to do healing for the world there is so much healing to do right and I was completely oblivious to that I needed healing I needed to really peel back some of those layers um I think for people that turn into tune into a race and you mentioned earlier on but when you we arrive everything's set up We There is work that we're doing in the background naturally people don't see they just see a show but there is an unbelievable amount of work that goes on in the background um when I talk to people that talk about how much weight you lose they're like yeah you just sit in the car and you drive um there's this huge psychological and emotional roller coaster that you're going through that it would be really hard for people to comprehend and you would mention about all these other athletes you see their faces in other sports you can't see because we've got helmet on but you go through this roller coaster ride in the race and then you get out and they the camera's right in your face you're not prepared for that your emotions are shot particularly if you failed or feel like you failed and you don't always answer the right way if you wear your your heart on your sleeve people that don't necessarily like that necessary always people take advantage of that so then you build up all these protection mechanisms and mechanisms that's not necessarily you and at the core but won't be the safest thing for you you know what I mean like I read something the other day about it's like three steps of you and there's one the one of which you present your uh who you present there's you and your who you are to you and your family and friends and then there's one the part of you the real you that no one ever gets to see and I think just today in today's world it's so vicious on social media it's the media can be you know can really tell you apart and you build up you know like you you make a mistake in something you say in the media and your ridicule Feud you never do it again so you build up and you go more and more in your shell and you become harder for people to really relate to but I think for me what I've realized in these last few years is really peeling back those layers and you know letting people know that I grew up in a council state I you know I've lived on the sofa with my uh my my parents we've had those struggles um the successful people out there you see they too have had those things where we need to show that young kids who are going through that same thing that oh I can if he can get there or they can get there then it must be possible for me too yeah um and like being showing you about vulnerability that's something that I really struggled to to to do for a long long time and um like today that's something I think I'm a lot more open than I've ever ever been yeah I'm not living in fear every day and that's like the most that's the most important thing I think for me personally I'm living a much happier life because I'm I'm a lot more open yeah it's liberating yeah absolutely yeah it's liberating when you finally feel like you're not trapped or you're hiding held or yeah or hiding yeah or hiding my favorite quotes is from my Angelo when she says we are all powerful beyond measure and that really hit home also for me that that's my favorite quote because and I have a tattooed because really we are so we do limit ourselves we get in our own way right along with the other things that get in our way but a lot of our fear stops us from driving forwards from progressing and that's why like I do the craziest things I jump out of planes yeah you've done what 80 jumps yeah like just just I love challenging myself and doing things even though there's maybe fear there but overcoming that fear is like it's the best feeling when you overcome it and you realize that she was all just a bunch of nonsense in your head I want to encourage so all my friends I'm like let's go and do this today they're like are you crazy my dad don't even think as a kid my dad was like is he really my son because I wouldn't do any of these things and even still today um I still find that he's actually done skydiving with my Dad yeah he said he would never do it but he did it so but driving 200 miles per hour is probably one of the scariest things that you do all the time like that's not for you anymore whatever things I've never had that fear yeah uh as a kid and I was just never you know I think if you go on a ski slope and you see these kids coming by the kids are generally Fearless right yeah but think as you go get older yes you start you hurt yourself a little bit you start protecting yourself more and more but I just don't have that I think I feel like that was something that just wasn't necessarily put in me I'm terrified of spiders yeah that's the only thing but I'm doing 200 miles an hour that's actually when I'm most at peace I would say yeah it's like I'm like flowing it's like my that's my element and that's why I like I love doing what I do it could be really really hard when I start racing I've been doing for 30 years I'm 37 I've been racing 30 years and when you stop like what what's gonna match that nothing's gonna have a probably a match being in the stadium or being at the race and being at the Pinnacle the sport being at the front of the greater or coming through the grid that motion that I get there when I do stop that will be a there'll be a big hole Yeah so I'm trying to generally focus on things find things that are going to replace that that will also be just as rewarding and that's like Mission 44 for me meeting kids at schools having these conversations with families and parents who clearly you're going through difficult times and want to create the best opportunity for their kids encouraging them they're like okay I've been there too look where I got so you can get there it's just got to work through it that's for me the that's way more rewarding than winning the race yeah so much more yeah that's I'm so grateful and I'm so happy that everyone's gonna getting to hear this I felt you're the only and I know you know you're talking about when that happens but it's brilliant that you're planning already because you can see how so many athletes mentally when they know their career has somewhat of a shelf life or a somewhat of a time span like it's so hot it's it just completely wrote but I remember you're reminding me of when I had the fortune of sitting down with Kobe Bryant and I said sat down with him when he'd already retired wow and I interviewed him oh so great I'm so jealous he was one of those people that was not upset being retired he loved it because he knew that his mission for him was to make these short movies and make all these uh Sports based content to inspire kids to tell their stories and to help them find better stories and so it's exactly what you're saying where he wasn't he's one of those people that I've met he was not sad about he was so happy he was so pumped that's what I'm working towards yeah because he he knew that he had a mission and he had a purpose and he'd gone and won an Oscar for a short movie that he'd made and you know he was creating content to inspire kids and that's where his heart was and of course watching his daughters play and so I'm super inspired by him yeah I know but yeah like when you said that that's what I remembered and and he was in the same boat he was like I always wanted to script right and never had time to script right he said I was always playing basketball and he goes but then I started script writing and I got a coach and then I was writing and getting better as a writer that's what I think when I've spoken to other athletes we focused so much on that being the best you can be and that one thing that the other things that you also love like if it's playing an instrument or if it's writing scripts like it all falls everything falls away and yeah um how can you come compartmentalize staying in the in the zone in the focus Lane but also building up some of those other skills and discovering other passions you know people's we've heard people tell LeBron shut up and dribble like yeah that's there there's a lot of people put you in the box and say this you can only do one thing but as I've seen and spoken to some people that are active and retired a lot of them say when particularly when they retire that they everything kind of fell apart like everything fell to the ground they had nothing to back it up with and they hadn't discovered what they're doing next so then they go through this emotional Journey um of of Discovery but it takes time so I'm like trying to learn from those things and applying them and find the other things that I'm passionate about so I generally feel today that I have lots of things in the pipeline that when I do stop it's gonna be like so grateful but I have something better that I'm moving on to yeah um but I I have no doubts that I oh me and my dad will always have to go to the go-kart track or something you know I'm always going to be competitive yeah I can't that's literally a strain in My DNA that's just never gonna gonna shift I'm competitive at everything I'm happy to hear that it's it's it's I'm sure that's refreshing it's great for people to also hear that even to inspire young people or Inspire anyone who's gone to a place in their career where they know that there's a certain moment where things are going to wind down but then they're going to transition I think I don't think we celebrate the transitions enough in life and life is made up of transition absolutely and people think that it's maybe less or something but it's yeah it's it's not about that yeah exactly so it's fascinating you found that what are some of these like you said like um you know I've been doing jumps I've been doing this with my friends what are some of the routines that you put into place to help you manage your mindset because I feel like you're you said that being at 200 miles per hour for the duration of a race is like being in flow for you that means you're extremely comfortable with your own thoughts extremely comfortable with being in a high stress high pressure environment but being just with your own self talk to us about how you I mean it sounds like that's always been the case but what have you done to become more and more comfortable with that yeah I think naturally this is the natural ability right but um I've been out of focus for an hour and 45 minutes without making mistakes and that's that's literally insane it's unbelievable dealing with the pressures um a friend actually asked me last night because I talk about we lose a lot of race a lot of weight in the race yes like sometimes you can lose up to 10 pounds like four kilos and people like whoa I need to be particularly in America they're like oh I need to be a racing driver um for the weight loss but this question is my friend asked me the other day that's like where does the where does the weight go like yeah because my suit doesn't because afterwards I weigh less but the I'm like so it must evaporate you somewhere so I've never got to figure out where all that weight actually truly goes because it obviously isn't in sweat but that's like messed my mind about um but the suit definitely is obviously a little bit heavier but um it's about gaining tools and I think as when I was younger I didn't have I knew how to arrive at the race I channeled the so this emotion that I had through whatever those difficulties were into my driving so it's laser focused like if you watch a video for me when I was five years old on Blue Pizza you'll see I'm just laser focused but um being able to control emotions being out to be calm and present staying centered there are loads of obviously different methods that people can use so things that I try to that I've started to incorporate over the years more in my life is things like stretching things like yoga and meditation has been a real that for me was something that I never thought that that I kind of turned a blind eye to it when I was younger I thought that's not gonna be helpful but being able to be sit still for a second and listen to the noises around you um and understand you want to tap into that kind of in a child or whatever it may be that's for me been taking that moment for yourself each day treating yourself with love and being kind to yourself you know because I think for a long time I wasn't kind to myself and that's been a process uh doing things that being purposeful and and having real certain intentions each day no matter how big or small and you know I wake up I'm looking in the mirror brushing your teeth then stop for a second sake this today's gonna be the day today's gonna be great um and no matter what you're faced with you know just whatever you come out with yeah yeah talking to yourself also speaking to people I think is very important I think as a kid as I said I didn't feel like I could speak to people I didn't feel like I could tell my mom about these experiences I felt embarrassed I couldn't tell my dad so I thought he would fulfill think less of me I couldn't talk to any of the teachers couldn't tell my most my friends most of them uh weren't particularly of color so but finding learning to be open and speak to people or find someone to speak to whether it's a therapist or whatever that's that's been a huge um help um I don't not necessarily have a therapist especially someone that I'm able to then just have shoot a with basically yeah um and confide in and Trust like trust has been something that I've never had done didn't trust anybody through those experiments I had as a kid and it's been very very hard to build trust with people but creating allies finding things that are that you have in common with people like my boss for example him and I just breaking each other down and then just having realizing that was similar in many many ways but also very different but that's not what should divide us we can then be allies and so that's why we're working on being the most diverse team we're working on pushing we have we've studied ignite which is about getting you know improving that pipeline of into motorsport for people um from underserved communities and there's so much work to do you're doing it though man I'm trying to I'm trying to and you know to the point you were asking earlier like has has enough been done absolutely not in the industry yes and like you don't feel that yeah and it's not only in either industry it's everywhere and is that your goal to sort in the industry and then expand out or you're starting you're starting across the board anyway yeah yeah that well with the team with where it's we started an organization which called ignite which we both fund and that is focused on the sport Motorsport in general but Mission 44 is focused on a much you know societal challenges and barriers and and education and um that's a focused in the UK at the moment but I want to bring that over to the states absolutely man um you know hopefully by at least 2024 um also just been to Africa and there is so much Beauty there and I really really want to have an imp you know really want to help there as well so yeah um we will continue to expand but we're one of the one of the few black founding non-profit organizations in UK and with um black CEO for example a very diverse group of people um and just having those conversations with people of just what a diverse Workforce means and how that bet can benefit you when you have people from different backgrounds all coming up with a diverse diverse thought and creation it's that's how you have more success yeah it's a no it's a no-brainer when you hear it and you're just like wow that makes so much sense and creativity is better and you you'd be able to come up with far more innovative ideas and you've got so many more cultures now being celebrated involved and I I feel like it's it's interesting to me that the world hasn't caught on with that yet like it's it's interesting that even despite there being progress there's not enough progress but what what is the block like what is the stop is it a mindset is it just habits and laziness like what is the actual like if you got to the core of it from everyone you've been speaking to like what are you what is the issue is the issue that yeah is the issue just laziness and just oh this is the way things have always been or is it or is there actually like a setup I don't have the answer to it I I ask that question all the time and I come up with lots of different theories in my mind um sometimes I'm like maybe people don't just don't care maybe people's problems are so big that they don't have time to focus on other things and it's hard enough just to do the thing that you're focused on or just overcoming the issue that you're overcoming so how am I gonna have more time to yeah to speak about these things why should I take the risk and risk my next step and so I feel like it's about learning to be selfless right and um which is difficult to do if you're not being loving yourself and not in a good place yeah so I think it all comes to us at hopefully a time at a certain point in our lives um but also you know we live in a time where like social media is so it's such a dangerous it's such a powerful tool but it's also can be so dangerous and so dividing and I see people out there today and there's people that I admire that I'm that that I would follow and I'd be like how they projecting something that's not necessarily healthy for you for people out there how are they projecting they're not using this platform to be more inspirational or be more positive and there's others that are but then I don't you can't judge because that's their Journey well you can continue to do is try to you know with that Maya Angelou quote it's about being shining your light as bright as you can possibly get it and hope that by doing it you I think you automatically uh encourage the people around you to want to do the same and I never truly understood that until I see the team that I work with how we all Inspire each other how with this year for example we've had the you know 2022 has been one of the hardest years for us as a team um as we didn't build a great car and we had our struggles as many people do and how we've had to all come closer and the relationship I've had with people that I've worked with this team for 10 years and there's conversations we've had this year people have opened up like they've never opened up before people have cried like it's been it's been beautiful to see yeah I feel like with some a far better team than we've ever been before because we're living with intention we're actually talking about impact that everyone in the team's gone and had diversity inclusion training no one's been kind of like I'm not I'm not going through that class why do I have to go and learn with diversity and inclusions about it I'm and why it doesn't impact me you know people like I understand it doesn't I wouldn't necessarily notice it but I want to understand it more so I can be better in my working environment it's been unbelievable that's amazing also leaders within our sport are now now where we are on a road to being a more diverse and more inclusive sport but I think my job is to continuously make sure that it that that same the effort that we're putting in now doesn't kind of fall away and become kind of you know just because it was um trending yeah yeah yeah that is actually something that's on the top of the list sustainability is on the top of our list and that real true core values we don't go out of our way well you know because a lot of people it's very easy to kind of be led by the money success but making sure you stick to your core values it's so true so important it goes back to what you said though that that's what real leaders do like leaders don't follow what's trending like leaders have focused on transformation and then they're dedicated to transformation and they're going to keep doing it until they see a change whereas followers follow Trends and oh it's not trending now it doesn't matter we'll focus on something else but you know obviously it's so clear just listening to you today and it's amazing Because unless I'm so glad I've had this opportunity to talk to you because I can hear just how deeply dedicated you are to this and how it's at your core it's like it's everything that comes out of your pores today is just you know which is which is really special to see a value being embodied like to empower other people you have to embody the value first it doesn't just you don't just go around empowering people and so to hear how your soul and heart is like completely a sponge for this stuff and then to wanting to go and share it with the world it's really remarkable man ah thank you yeah well I mean it's I've I'm by far perfect no yeah I know and I think that's like it's not about being perfect it's about just every day one step at a time trying to be better trying to do more yeah and um learning a lot about myself I've had to break myself down in order to be able to be better and what do you mean by breaking yourself down uh well just when you when I told you about like all those barriers you put up over time to protect yourself and then kind of like knocking those barriers down yes and it's enabled me to connect with more people it's enabled me to realize my place in the world and I don't feel like I don't belong anymore I feel like uh you know I've got a place and I've got a purpose and that's and I think a lot of people are struggling to find that purpose but it's okay you'll you will find it do not give up keep getting up you know like just keep saying those things to yourself and you will eventually find it and you know you're already living in your purpose and having such a huge impact on so many people you know telling stories which uh is it's amazing to see um I started this production company inspired by like Kobe and so many out there but stories for me storytelling I watch a lot of movies I don't know about you but yeah I love movies especially Sports movies yeah like when I go home I'll like I you know order takeaway or make myself some pasta or something like that and then I put the plate in front of me and I can't eat till I found something to watch like my my Escape is watching a movie and I always like to find something hopefully inspiring yes but what the reason I created this um production company is because you know until recently we didn't have any people of color are superheroes We I think these stories storytelling is so so important for people out there for inspiring people and and I want to make sure that in and everything that I do every project that I work on is with a diverse Workforce like I'm doing this from one movie with um Brad Pitt and Joe kazinski and um but my job is to make sure that it's diverse behind the camera as it is on screen the story is empowering and uplifting um it's not there's no BS in terms of the racing and hopefully one kid will watch it and yeah or more and feel empowered to go and do something great absolutely I love that man I'm so glad you're doing that because when you said do I like movies the movie that came to my mind was uh race have you seen race because yeah so like that the story is unbelievable but when you watch the movie as well it's unbelievable to see what Jesse Owens did like to think that he had to go I can't even imagine I can't you know you just can't imagine if everyone's not seen the movie you have to go see them yeah it's just one of those movies that's like how do you do that like how do you go and race in Nazi Germany like I have like I must have been terrified terrifying and you know there's been so many great stories like that that are out there that need telling yeah um continuously telling yeah 42 is another one yeah 42 is awesome um but yeah there is these really unique people out there I think for me being in this sport being the only one and being the first is that is that has been lonely yeah and that has been really really a difficult thing to kind of understand and and um through my life I know many many people like Jesse for example being the first and only at the time you know I've taken huge inspiration from him Nelson Mandela was like ah he's just one of my biggest biggest Inspirations um I was so so fortunate to get to meet him when I was I was like 23 or something oh wow what was that like yeah ah it was mind-blowing I mean when you when you then I got to form one and you have the success all these things come and you don't even you've dreamed of being a racing driver but you didn't dream that all the other things of all the other things that come along like meeting other unbelievable people I went to Nelson Mandela's 90th birthday in London and I was sat on his table in this huge room full of like Bill Clinton was there like uh Denzel Washington was there open Winfrey sat right next to me like all these people that you would never ever in the million years dream of think you would ever get to meet yeah and then you discover and they're also just human beings with feelings and with emotions and with their own challenges but I was so young at the time it was it was I don't even recognize myself when I look back at me seven years ago I see a shell of me and I think I look today and see myself and know myself so much more um and that's again that's an empowering experience to be in but yeah I went into the room and met him and he sat at his chair and it was like walking into I was like God or like a king you know and his silk shirt was his Aura was something you could see his Aura his smile he was beaming that was the most probably the most impactful day for me um as a youngster wow Lewis it's unbelievable talking to you I mean what you've achieved on the track off the track and now I'm even more excited to see you continue to achieve uh as your journey continues because I'm going to say this and I don't say this often and I genuinely my team can vouch for and everyone else can listen back to any episode I think you're one of the most on-purpose people I've ever interviewed and I appreciate that no and I genuinely like it just there's nothing else that comes from your being apart from what your purpose currently is with Mission 44 and and it's it's really remarkable to meet someone who's so on purpose I don't I genuinely don't have that experience and the only person you reminded me of was Kobe he had it too when I was around him there was no there's nothing else it wasn't like he missed anything he was at peace he was it was peace with purpose you know and you have that same Aura and spirit from from at least my experience thank you so much it's so kind of you yeah and I really mean that I really mean that it's incredible so uh we we end every episode with a Fast Five which means every question has to be answered in one word to one sentence maximum okay and we ask these same questions to every guest that's ever been on the show I should be prepared for that because I've seen you so well no the the first question is what's the best advice you've ever heard or received I think it was the achieve my dad uh never give up that's been like the slogan in the back of my mind every single day the other one would be um just that you'll always be learning and that's what I learned from Nelson Mandela he was like I'm 19 and I'm still learning today and like I was like what can you tell me it's like I'm still learning today and it's okay to be learning you're always going to be learning something new and growing yourself wow that's beautiful very like wow but like guys that was pretty basic but no but it's not it's it's powerful knowing he said that yeah as in the fact that he said that on his 90th birthday that is powerful because it's a long way to go yeah and it's like a lot of people I feel like a lot of people feel by 90 especially him he has so much wisdom to share yeah but the fact that his wisdom was I'm just learning that yeah I'm still learning that's pretty cool all right second question uh what's the worst advice you ever heard or received give up it's just the opposite yeah yeah literally the worst bit of advice and it wasn't I mean it wasn't necessarily advice but I when I was younger there was other parents of other racing drivers I was racing against I remember this one guy and he's like she just you just don't have it you should just give up their parents were saying their parents the grown man in these 40s or 50s told me that and I was eight told you told me yeah to my face and I remember just being so like what am I supposed to do with that what do you mean give up what was the reason I would imagine because I was beating his kid maybe I don't know I never really thought of what the reason would be and the same with teachers you know yeah what is this crap you know you're terrible at this you'll never know go to the next set you're never gonna amount to anything why are you even here I had a parent I had a teacher tell me that and wow it broke me down so much question number three uh how do you deal with loss and how do you deal with the win I think success is as I mentioned earlier short-lived success is there's a lot less learn in succ	feel like it's like you said there's only 20 of you that are racing anyway it's lonely anyway 99 of people in the world have no idea what it feels like to drive a car as fast as you do and the way you do in in any comparison do you sometimes feel that the only people you can relate to are the people that are racing against you and then do you kind of feel is there a loneliness in that experience or is that kind of like a power in that as well definitely the other drivers I do feel that there's more we have a lot more in common than we think but we're so competitive and a lot of us have our defense like you want to beat the guy but then you like the guy you might like the person outside the car but you can't show that like there's this whole psychological battle you're having with yourself and getting away of yourself a lot of the time so I really feel like as an older driver I'm trying to be more like reaching out to youngsters and um because they're the future you know um and I'm excited to see some of these young drivers are coming through are so so talented I don't know if they've got the best structure around them like I mean like I didn't necessarily have the ultimate structure that I perhaps have now so just try to be	5	4	7	feel like it's like you said there's only 20 of you that are racing anyway it's lonely anyway 99 of people in the world have no idea what it feels like to drive a car as fast as you do and the way you do in in any comparison do you sometimes feel that the only people you can relate to are the people that are racing against you and then do you kind of feel is there a loneliness in that experience or is that kind of like a power in that as well	definitely the other drivers I do feel that there's more we have a lot more in common than we think but we're so competitive and a lot of us have our defense like you want to beat the guy but then you like the guy you might like the person outside the car but you can't show that like there's this whole psychological battle you're having with yourself and getting away of yourself a lot of the time so I really feel like as an older driver I'm trying to be more like reaching out to youngsters and um because they're the future you know um and I'm excited to see some of these young drivers are coming through are so so talented I don't know if they've got the best structure around them like I mean like I didn't necessarily have the ultimate structure that I perhaps have now so just try to be	2,-3,5	6,4,8	2	-3	5	6	4	8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyiWKXTd9aY	4,235	AyiWKXTd9aY	2023-01-23 00:00:00	I think the easiest thing in life is to give up on whatever you know whatever you're focused on or whatever you're hopeful for the hardest thing is to keep going but we have to like we have to continue to hold on and I would imagine for so many people out there that is probably the most difficult thing the best-selling author and host the number one Health and Wellness podcast on purpose with Jay Shetty hey everyone welcome back to on purpose the number one Health podcast in the world thanks to each and every one of you that come back every week to listen learn and grow now I know that our community is dedicated to living happier healthier and more healed lives and I love sitting down with people who are dedicated to their own happiness their own health their own healing and doing that for the world through their work and I have to be honest it's not every day that you get to sit down with someone you admire you're inspired by you look up to and someone who is truly the definition of the word goat uh I'm talking about the one and only sir Lewis Hamilton seven time Formula One World Champion someone with over a hundred race wins considered the most successful F1 driver of all time and Lewis's willingness to embrace what makes him different has defined his values and outlook on life and in 2014 those values saw him win BBC's Sports personality of the Year followed two years later by a position in Time magazine's 100 most influential people list Lewis received both accolades for a second time in 2020 in a year that saw him become a leading voice in the global fight for racial equality in doing so he was recognized as British gq's Game Changer of the year and Powerless most influential black person in the UK and further to this Lewis won the 2020 glorious Sportsman of the Year award and most notably was formally recognized with a Knighthood in 2020 New Year's honors for his outstanding achievements and contribution to Motorsports on the track and off the track Lewis is also passionate activists for so many underrepresented groups and communities his mission 44 is doing incredible work please welcome to on purpose Lewis Hamilton Lewis thank you for being here thank you so much for having me no this honestly is a special one for me it's been one of those ones that you know when I first launched the podcast there were a few names that I wanted to sit down with and you were one of those names so for me it's a very special moment and for this to be your first ever podcast which you just told me I didn't even know and you literally told me this like 10 minutes ago and in my head I'm thinking wow thank I I'm so grateful to have that honor honestly honest mine I'm really so grateful for everything you do and so I've been following and listening to you and you sent me the book a long time ago already so I really appreciate everything you're doing today oh well thank you man thank you and I'm excited to unpack your journey because as we said because it's your first podcast people have heard parts of you but but we don't really understand the depth and the texture of of Lewis Hamilton and so I guess I want to start in a in a different place and we'll we'll kind of go through on this journey I wanted to ask you what do you feel is the hardest thing you've had to do in order to be who you are today I think continuing to have the belief in myself and not letting that Veer off since I was young since I've been told from my teachers that I would never amount to nothing The Bullying or the things that you face at the adversity you face the discrimination and just continue to keep your head up continuing to to march on ahead uh towards your dream and never lose inside now I think that's definitely for sure the most difficult thing is keeping keeping your goal and your eyes set on that and not being distracted um not giving up I think the easiest thing in life is to give up on whatever you know whatever you're focused on or whatever you're hopeful for the hardest thing is to continue to keep going but we have to like we have to continue to hold on and I would imagine for so many people out there that is that it that is probably the most difficult thing yeah I think that's a great answer because I think people look at you and they assume that you never have to make that choice right they see someone in your position someone who's achieved what you've achieved and the Assumption can be oh yeah but he's the greatest he was he was just always that way and he doesn't have to make that choice every day but as you said since the beginning of your life whether it's childhood whether it's breaking into a sport that wasn't set up for you there have been so many moments let's let's go back to school let's talk about some of that more in depth because I feel like a lot of people struggle at school but you kind of went through a lot of altercations and adversities at that time what were some of the things you were hearing some of the bullying some of the racism the experiences that you had that felt limiting or made it feel like it was easier to give up I think for me I mean school was the most probably the most traumatizing and diff most difficult part of my life wow um I already was being bullied at the age of six um I think at the time that particular school I was probably one of three kids of color and just bigger stronger bullying kids were throwing me around a lot of the time I was always the last picked in the you know when you're standing playground in your uh in the line of when they're picking teams for football I was always the last one chosen or not even chosen even if I was better than somebody else um and then the the constant Jabs the things that are either thrown at you like bananas or people that would use the m word just so relaxed um people calling you half cast and you know just really not knowing where you fit in that for me was difficult when you then go into like history class and everything you learn in history there are no people of color in the history that they were teaching us so I was thinking oh well where are the people that look like me and I mean for me in my school there was only around I think there was around seven maybe six seven black kids out of 1200 kids and three of us were else put outside the headmaster's office all the time the Headmaster just had it out for for us and particularly for me I would say so like just juggling all these different emotions that you're feeling plus I struggled at school I didn't find out till I was 16 that I was dyslexic fortunately I came across a teacher that was actually caring and um took me down that road and helped me discover a little bit more about myself and how I can better myself through education but um I think that for me was that was tough also because I was racing every weekend I would leave on the Thursday night we would travel you know pack up the motorhome we'll travel around the country to race on the weekends and no one else knew when I'd got back to school every all the kids have done normal things on the weekend and I'll come back and say I'm I was racing and people would be like oh I've done that before you know like at this at the theme park or something but no one really knew what my goal was and could really they thought we would maybe it was a joke you missed a lot of that social interaction also I was putting all the lowest sets at school and told that if you do well you can progress and then never ever let me progress no matter how hard I tried um so I really felt that the system was really up against me and I was kind of swimming against the tide but I'm so grateful for that that Journey because that's what built me to the person that I am today but there were a lot of things that I suppressed because I I couldn't go home and say hey to my I didn't feel I could go home and talk to my parents that you know these kids kept calling me them where today I got bullied I got beaten up at school today or I you know I wasn't able to defend myself I didn't want my dad to think I was not strong and so I'll you know if I had tears I would hold them back if I had emotions it would be in a quiet place and um it wasn't really till I started racing that I was able to channel this emotion that I had into my driving and it's like when I put this helmet on Superman was my favorite I loved how he fought for the people and I loved how he did the right things and he was a really inspiring character for me but again no superhero was of color so you know but you can still aspire to be someone that's if they don't look like you you know um and so I remember going to karate I remember putting this helmet on in racing and it felt like it was my cloak you know my superpowers had come out when I was driving and I was battling with these kids and I was doing able to do things that they seemed to not be able to do as well and that was my love wow yeah I mean it's my mind was opposite I was bullied a lot at school as well I was one of five people of color in my primary school and I was also overweight and so I was bullied for that and obviously you know my parents are from Indian backgrounds and so they'd gone through it much worse than I did when when they'd moved to England but the difference was that I would go cry to my mum and then my mum would come try and save the day in school and that was the worst that was so embarrassing like your mum's they're telling the teacher what happened and then I'm like oh no Mom don't do this and then it's even more embarrassing because the kids pick on you going oh mum came to say oh yeah yeah Mommy's right yeah so that that was my version of it I wasn't scared of crying to my mum but then it had it had different things but yeah that that's so hard as a kid when you're going through that and you're trying to find yourself you're trying to figure out what confidence is you don't even know what that means you feel like not going to school but then even though you're saying you found it in racing I mean racing was similar because you were working class you're still to this day the only working-class black driver to do as successfully as you have so not only do you have it at school you also have it in your passion like in the thing that is your cloak is your Superman so how does it feel when you're also dealing with it in that area where you've discovered what your passion or your interest is at that age what does it feel like when you're getting in that space it's inescapable you know you use that as an escape but then you're confronted with it also and so I was just grateful that I had this amazing figure in my dad you know I got a you know my best one of my best friends like his dad was never there I know there's not many people that have separated parents and and being shared between parents is not an easy thing um you know some days with your mom and some days we did that my my mum was the soft loving parent so that's where I really I feel like I learned a lot of compassion and empathy that's where I feel like I get it from her and my dad was at that strong like kind of stronger Rock and also just someone that looked like me on and just he would say do you talking on the track don't be distracted by it don't listen to what they're saying do your driving on track and show let's just be quiet and walk away as well as you know um so but you know again like your parents my parents went through well particularly my dad was someone that also face adversity through his life and he's like I want to do everything in my power to create a better life for my kid so that I don't feel or experience the things that I have encountered and through my through my journey and so but I think for me it was also difficult having biracial you know I'm biracial so having a white mother mother for example and a black dad I knew my dad would understand the racial slurs that I surrounded me my mum couldn't understand it so I couldn't really speak to my mum about it she was loving but she's never been educated within it she didn't know anything about black history and slavery and so it was a very difficult but but I had love there which was the most important thing yeah um but in the racing it was like you know like kids you just want to enjoy yourself you want to be included and you know when you're kind of outcast a little bit it's um it's difficult for kids you know and so that's why today like I'm like if I'm posting something I hope that when I do click that button I hope that it is a positive wave for some of the kids out there that are being distracted by all the stuff that's going on around the world yeah I mean I was I was telling you earlier I was so grateful came out to watch you in Austin a couple of weeks ago and got to meet your dad and I heard you talk about your dad in that way before and so when I met him I was it was I was just you know it's nice to share that with him and I was just saying how beautiful it is to see your relationship and and how it's evolved it's always been that way yeah yeah that's what I thought yeah yeah to walk us through whatever you feel my dad has been like the leader in getting me you know he had four jobs at one stage just to keep us go-karting because when we all started gokind most of the people were majority of the people were from working class families um so but then there are of course a few wealthier kids that have slightly better access to equipment and um mechanics and all those sorts of things and my dad was my mechanic so it was just me and him on the road and and my stepmom Linda um she would be there supporting um making sure that we're fully clothed making sure that we we've eaten and we're hydrated all those sorts of things for the weekend prepare my kid um so it was very much a family outing it was a family kind of um family weekend we did it as a family um we've traveled together my little brother would be on the road with us as well who's a major inspiration you've definitely got to speak to me one day um born with Cerebral Palsy um when I was seven and is a speaker today so he's and racing he's done he's defined all the odds and wow uh even though he's seven years younger than me still very much an inspiration but the thing with my dad was he was maybe he was my manager all the way till I was like 20 I got to we got to phone one and he was he worked so hard his work ethic for me was that that's was inspiring for me seeing how hard he worked the time he gets up in the morning the little sleep that he would have end of his day in the garage working on the go-kart preparing for the weekend packing up the track and getting us to where we are mechanicing learning to be a better mechanic and and still weighing all these different things it was quite phenomenal to see um but I think it was difficult for him to then show me love and sometimes you just want to hug from your dad you know or when you're facing these things you want to be able to be embraced but um when I think I got to when I was 22 23 it got really intense when I got to form one because all of a sudden you're thrown into you go through karting and cars you don't go to school to to learn to speak to the media you're literally thrown into the pit and at the time I didn't have management other than my dad my stepmom were booked flights and trips but um I didn't have PR I didn't have anybody to help protect me or prepare me for things driving I was good I would say but in these things is where a lot of mistakes happened um you've got the the kind of all the media attention and you have to so you're just learning on the go which was very difficult for a youngster I think yeah absolutely and and also I just you wanted to try and live some sort of normal normal life but nothing's normal for you at the time and the thing for me and my dad were just we're really bumping his at one stage it's like I really just want you to be my dad so we can let's go and have fun let's go and have a laugh but we hadn't had that for a long time and so um eventually I decided to sit part ways for my dad and I was like I'm gonna start making some of the decisions for myself and the mistakes that I'm gonna need to make and there was definitely a period of time where we spoke less um but we both have worked so hard to come back together and we have one of the greatest you know he's the first person I want to call when I finish a race um because I know he knows what it's like he was there from day one and so you know he's been to the last two races with me he's probably gonna come to the next one there's days where I do feel like I'm not enough there's days where I don't feel like I'm good enough and people be like yeah but you've won seven World titles anyway yeah but still there's days where I question no you still got it you still are you can you still be the best yes you can and so I have to just always I'm having that conversation with myself often but my dad's also there sometimes I'll say something that's maybe not the most positive and he'll be the one there just reaffirming no you've got this believe in yourself and it's so important for people to have people like that around them and I support myself I surround myself with other positive people as well and we continue I think it's all our job to lift every as many you know everyone up right I want everyone around me to win and yeah um and to become the best versions of themselves so no thank you for sharing that as well thank you for opening up about that because yeah I think the relationships we have with our parents are just so significant when it comes to achievement and success and when you start doing sport at your level even at an early age wins and losses starts becoming so important so win and loss is important in everyone's life in the sense that everyone has it in exams in school and things like that which we'll talk about in a second as well but for you you're having a in a very over way like you have one two three and then you have everyone else and and how have you kind of worked with that since you're young because I can imagine that your psychology can become very much like if you win things are great if you lose things are bad how have you kind of processed that as time's gone on and was there a time when it was unhealthy and difficult and has it got better or is it something you're always working on so on one side of things you know I struggled at school as I said so the teachers would write these reports that I was not focused or I wasn't doing well and and I remember the fear of that report every year and I try so hard to do well and then these teachers I don't know if teachers out there realize when they write those reports what's happening back at home whether you have an abusive uh household or you know the the stress of that was was difficult I feel embracing if I if I would win I could see a smile on my dad's face and it was really like okay if I do well at this I know that I'll be accepted you know um but I go to work double hard to be I've got to always be first I always laugh about the whole if you're not first you last because I'm literally whilst that's obviously I've not been fresh my whole life first was everything yeah um in order to be accepted in order to fit in and maybe to be appreciated um not only in within my relationship perhaps with my dad but then also around my friends and it was until I got older I realized it's about the bigger picture but when you have success it's so short-lived it's like it really is really short-lived you win a race then you go back home and you have big as a racing driver you know the weekend's so intense you've seen it there's so much energy so much it's really really in a stressful environment for everyone that's working within it then you go home and there's a huge come down like one or two days later and you're trying to balance those emotions that emotional rollercoaster um and learning to kind of channel that and figure out ways to keep it balanced whether with your routine and those sorts of things has been really key for me but I think during the last couple of last few years really understanding that it's about the bigger picture um I'm fighting for something far greater than winning a race I'm really fighting for changing the world you know we're more divided than ever I would say it's devastating I can't watch the news it's devastating every there's so much happening but there are so many great people out there that are doing really great things and I want to be one of I want to be a part of that [Music] inspirational energy bubble that people like yourselves are a part of um because we want to we need to create a brighter future we need to create better Future Leaders look how many look how bad our leaders are that are in governments you know like we need to be as part of the next generation of thought leaders um that are positive and um yeah so that's what I'm trying to be a part of every day I'm so I'm really trying to focus on my intentions as you're talking about like setting your intentions each day um I'm trying to learn new tools that I didn't have when I was a kid I didn't I didn't know about yoga I didn't know about meditation um I didn't have podcasts to listen to good people to listen to and aspire to kind of help me put on the right path so yeah um yeah we've got a lot of work to do there's almost not enough time here on this planet right we're here for such a short time really in the Scale of the Universe yeah but I think you're one of those people that you know and that's when we first connected that was one of the biggest reasons for me that I saw you using your platform for a bigger purpose I was like oh that's fascinating like that's so interesting to me because that's a choice too I think today we kind of assume that if someone has a platform or if someone's you know number one in their field or if someone's got followers that they should talk about stuff we kind of assume that anyone who has followers should talk about stuff first of all I don't think that's the case I think a lot of people choose not to uh but but you were someone that stood out to me massively where I was just like wow this person's really not just winning on on the track but it's thinking about how winning on the track transfers to what you can do off the track because of the influence because of your network because of your impact and I find that to be really The Missing Link for so many people because I always say that your purpose is something not just that makes you happy it's when you use what makes you happy to serve other people like when you use it to impact other people's lives when did that drop for you like when did that click for you like were you ever I guess what I'm trying to say is there's a transition when you're saying that well you know winning like maybe get the nod from my dad and obviously I was bullied and then I'm winning but then I'm number one at something like was there a point at which number one didn't satisfy you or was there a point at which the success that came from it or or you didn't actually have to get dissatisfied you just found that there was a better way to be successful does that make sense the parv that was striking when you're just saying that for me it was like I feel like we often live in fear of what people think um how you're going to be judged how you're going to be received if you you're free outspoken you're going to lose your job you're going to be fired I've always been a outspoken person I think that's just been a quality I've never been a follower um I don't like to conform to how people expect what people of what people expect from you as I said I was having a success and I was like okay now I'm on I'm at the top what can I do with it yeah and there are so many causes there's so many problems out there and there's so many so many amazing causes and which one you know there's only one of you so like what where do you put the focus and that's take it took a long long time to really find what that was for me I think for me education was something that I felt extremely passionate about because I I've been out to India I'd been out into some of the really poorest places like Manila and seeing young kids who are like us but begging for food and not having the same opportunities and for me that was that broke my heart and realized how privileged we are and how fortunate we are it was like I want to be working with people out there that are trying to create more you know there's over 100 million kids that don't have access to school or education so how can I get involved in that so align yourself with people that do but I think I was I was winning and it was giving me that tip of happiness but then I would kind of drop back down to normality and there was something missing and it was that purpose really or understanding what that purpose was and understanding what why you've been put here why are you beginning the platform that you've that you've been given why were the only you know only people of color this whole time through it all and when I started speaking about um diversity people like oh you want to get more people of coloring as as racing drivers only 20 of us so as I know it's this forty thousand forty fifty thousand jobs there's thousands of engineering jobs in the background and there's such a lack of diversity coming through I want to be a part of Shifting that narrative and shifting that conversation and having people be question themselves and have those difficult conversations with with people so I first I just started by having those difficult conversations with my boss and one of the things he brings up that he said that hit him hard I said have you ever thought of as a white person walking into the paddock into the race weekend Paddock and being the only white person there he's like he's like I hadn't even thought of that I said well that's what it's like for someone like me when I'm in the room you noticed you noticed that out of 50 people in a meeting you're the only person the black person there and it's not because we are less is because there are these barriers within Society through education that are limiting people to be the best they can be so my job is to be empowering and improving representation I'm really really passionate like black Equity as well so that's why I got involved with the Denver Broncos Denver Broncos yeah yeah and usually when I'm in conversation with sponsors or companies I'm like hey so what it how diverse is your team what are you doing about diversity inclusion how are you creating a better work workspace for people that's what I want to be a part of I the success can come later and that's that would be along the way but if you're not asking those questions or you're not tackling those issues then we're not blind yeah and so all them pretty much every partner that we have we have a lot of Partners within our team I've asked these really difficult questions and they're like oh you know what but we can do more I'm like well let's do it you know yeah so I think I've grown very close with my like Mercedes-Benz and Gamma they've been so open that we changed the car from Silver to Black in 2020. and as again I said to them like the car's been silver forever it's always been silver arrows and I was like imagine if we change the card to Black well that could you know us turning up and arriving is how you show up and it's how you know imagine the message we can send and we had the black car for the whole year and we didn't even really talk much about it we just let it be and we went with it and that's when I won myself with that car so that's beautiful now that must have felt special it was honestly my whole life flashed by my not that last lap in Turkey my whole life like all the struggles the questioning whether you were going to make it or not just all those doubts all those fears kind of flash by Me by you know through my eyes and came across the line and I was like I did it and I wanted the kids out there to know that you can do it too you know um so that's what I try and like every day just try to be encouraging of kitchen yeah yeah do you sometimes feel that we were talking about this a bit earlier that you know in other sports we get to see the emotions and the expressions of players that we love or you know anyone who's on the court or the field of the pitch whereas with you because we don't get to see that in your eyes in your last lap like that we can only hear it today which is why I'm so grateful to have this moment because I obviously whenever whenever I'm sit down with someone who's a high performer like you it's obvious that there's so much emotion and preparation and power but with racing specifically you just don't get to see that do you sometimes feel that the only people that can truly relate to you are the people you compete with because I feel like it's like you said there's only 20 of you that are racing anyway it's lonely anyway 99 of people in the world have no idea what it feels like to drive a car as fast as you do and the way you do in in any comparison do you sometimes feel that the only people you can relate to are the people that are racing against you and then do you kind of feel is there a loneliness in that experience or is that kind of like a power in that as well definitely the other drivers I do feel that there's more we have a lot more in common than we think but we're so competitive and a lot of us have our defense like you want to beat the guy but then you like the guy you might like the person outside the car but you can't show that like there's this whole psychological battle you're having with yourself and getting away of yourself a lot of the time so I really feel like as an older driver I'm trying to be more like reaching out to youngsters and um because they're the future you know um and I'm excited to see some of these young drivers are coming through are so so talented I don't know if they've got the best structure around them like I mean like I didn't necessarily have the ultimate structure that I perhaps have now so just try to be a kind of a positive light to them but naturally none of them are black and none of them have necessarily faced the same as me but they've faced their own challenges and and things about respecting that with within everybody and I've tried to be create allies necessarily like in having the difficult conversations with some of them I mean I'm so grateful for I've had a couple of them it really took the knee with me in 2020 um just on that you know my dad was going back to the house with my dad my dad like never let me cry as a kid he said there's a sign of weakness like don't let me ever see you shed a tear so I remember just holding back through those difficult times as a kid holding back most of that stuff in 2020 I cried I hadn't cried for at least I think at least 10 years maybe more it was there was a lot of bottled up stuff that came up that I had not realized that didn't even know about suppressing a pain or a feeling so I remember kind of bending on my knees thinking no what has happened in the world I've got to I've got to be outspoken I've got to take that chance because if I don't do it then no one's gonna do it if I don't if I don't take the knee if I don't let people like me know that I care and I hear you and I'm I'm with you and I'm going to do something about it I'm going to risk it all I don't care if my partners want to drop me because I want to be associated with this narrative I don't I'm like and I literally let go of all the fear and that's why I went came so forward with it and I know it's not easy for everyone to do that um but I just want to really and try to encourage people out there too to be themselves to speak out if they've got a problem if they're seeing something within the work working environment or experiencing something you gotta be outspoken about it and there's a right way to do it the first day I was going to take the knee I remember I didn't feel like I could tell my team I was like because I know I felt that they wouldn't understand how important it is for me to do this this day so I remember I had my black lives matter a shirt hidden and I just wore it out there and I I went ahead within so no one knew no one knew but every uh the sport had built and made all these t-shirts like um we race as one yeah slogan and they gave these t-shirts to all the to everybody I was like I'm not wearing that that's not what this is about and so this is what I'm doing and this was around George Floyd right yeah and afterwards my team were like well why don't you if you just told us we could have prepared a bit over I had this fear that they would try and stop me perhaps but that was just a fear um they've been massively supportive through the whole thing My Hope was that you know kids would be watching me like what it what it what is that why is he taking me what what does that shirt mean what is going on Dad Mom and then the parents being in an awkward position having to explain it maybe but I think what was really encouraging for me I think when we started really getting into the whole diversity inclusion we did the research there was only three percent out of two thousand people in the team as three percent diversity so since then we've been on this Mission the team have started new projects we've discovered that the the sport generally hires from one group of universities which is not diverse and if there are any young black students that go there they're twice as unlikely to be hired when they come out compared to their counterparts and also paid less exercises all these things that perhaps people didn't know that's the Hamilton commission right yeah yeah and that just was interesting to to experience that and now now we're working on like a diversity Charter that all the teams have to be a part of and it's not mine it's for the sport and it's to encourage those teams because there's still not any diversity within you know if you look at Ferrari they don't have hardly any there's most teams don't um but when I go back to my team to the factory normally in our marketing department wasn't very diverse initially and I walked in after the pandemic and I started seeing such a more diverse group of people I was really quite emotional because I was like oh my God there's I'm starting to see change but you don't see that on TV yeah so when I talk to the to the bosses of the sport I'm like hey you know there's all white men facing oh and and me facing the camera at the start of the race where are the women where are the people of color we've got to be showing some young kids are watching and they're like oh there's a place for me there I can be there I can be an engineer I can be a mechanic or whatever it may be and even for young girls oh I can be a racing driver or an engineer a strategist or whatever you know so representation's so so key to inspiring the young youth especially in these industries that they already have less access to right like that's the point that it's not just it's not just representation because you want them to even have the opportunity it's the fact that there's just no access point which is what you're trying to create I think what's what I find really beautiful about you doing it is you're doing it though when you're like I'm having all my emotions come up at the same time as trying to be a voice for other people and when you're saying like I'm I'm taking a knee because I know I have to make a stand externally but internally you're taking a knee because so much of your own stuff from years ago is coming back up like that must be quite hard when you're that's that strikes me as something that's really inspiring about what you did is that you were going through your own healing at the same time as trying to do healing for the world there is so much healing to do right and I was completely oblivious to that I needed healing I needed to really peel back some of those layers um I think for people that turn into tune into a race and you mentioned earlier on but when you we arrive everything's set up We There is work that we're doing in the background naturally people don't see they just see a show but there is an unbelievable amount of work that goes on in the background um when I talk to people that talk about how much weight you lose they're like yeah you just sit in the car and you drive um there's this huge psychological and emotional roller coaster that you're going through that it would be really hard for people to comprehend and you would mention about all these other athletes you see their faces in other sports you can't see because we've got helmet on but you go through this roller coaster ride in the race and then you get out and they the camera's right in your face you're not prepared for that your emotions are shot particularly if you failed or feel like you failed and you don't always answer the right way if you wear your your heart on your sleeve people that don't necessarily like that necessary always people take advantage of that so then you build up all these protection mechanisms and mechanisms that's not necessarily you and at the core but won't be the safest thing for you you know what I mean like I read something the other day about it's like three steps of you and there's one the one of which you present your uh who you present there's you and your who you are to you and your family and friends and then there's one the part of you the real you that no one ever gets to see and I think just today in today's world it's so vicious on social media it's the media can be you know can really tell you apart and you build up you know like you you make a mistake in something you say in the media and your ridicule Feud you never do it again so you build up and you go more and more in your shell and you become harder for people to really relate to but I think for me what I've realized in these last few years is really peeling back those layers and you know letting people know that I grew up in a council state I you know I've lived on the sofa with my uh my my parents we've had those struggles um the successful people out there you see they too have had those things where we need to show that young kids who are going through that same thing that oh I can if he can get there or they can get there then it must be possible for me too yeah um and like being showing you about vulnerability that's something that I really struggled to to to do for a long long time and um like today that's something I think I'm a lot more open than I've ever ever been yeah I'm not living in fear every day and that's like the most that's the most important thing I think for me personally I'm living a much happier life because I'm I'm a lot more open yeah it's liberating yeah absolutely yeah it's liberating when you finally feel like you're not trapped or you're hiding held or yeah or hiding yeah or hiding my favorite quotes is from my Angelo when she says we are all powerful beyond measure and that really hit home also for me that that's my favorite quote because and I have a tattooed because really we are so we do limit ourselves we get in our own way right along with the other things that get in our way but a lot of our fear stops us from driving forwards from progressing and that's why like I do the craziest things I jump out of planes yeah you've done what 80 jumps yeah like just just I love challenging myself and doing things even though there's maybe fear there but overcoming that fear is like it's the best feeling when you overcome it and you realize that she was all just a bunch of nonsense in your head I want to encourage so all my friends I'm like let's go and do this today they're like are you crazy my dad don't even think as a kid my dad was like is he really my son because I wouldn't do any of these things and even still today um I still find that he's actually done skydiving with my Dad yeah he said he would never do it but he did it so but driving 200 miles per hour is probably one of the scariest things that you do all the time like that's not for you anymore whatever things I've never had that fear yeah uh as a kid and I was just never you know I think if you go on a ski slope and you see these kids coming by the kids are generally Fearless right yeah but think as you go get older yes you start you hurt yourself a little bit you start protecting yourself more and more but I just don't have that I think I feel like that was something that just wasn't necessarily put in me I'm terrified of spiders yeah that's the only thing but I'm doing 200 miles an hour that's actually when I'm most at peace I would say yeah it's like I'm like flowing it's like my that's my element and that's why I like I love doing what I do it could be really really hard when I start racing I've been doing for 30 years I'm 37 I've been racing 30 years and when you stop like what what's gonna match that nothing's gonna have a probably a match being in the stadium or being at the race and being at the Pinnacle the sport being at the front of the greater or coming through the grid that motion that I get there when I do stop that will be a there'll be a big hole Yeah so I'm trying to generally focus on things find things that are going to replace that that will also be just as rewarding and that's like Mission 44 for me meeting kids at schools having these conversations with families and parents who clearly you're going through difficult times and want to create the best opportunity for their kids encouraging them they're like okay I've been there too look where I got so you can get there it's just got to work through it that's for me the that's way more rewarding than winning the race yeah so much more yeah that's I'm so grateful and I'm so happy that everyone's gonna getting to hear this I felt you're the only and I know you know you're talking about when that happens but it's brilliant that you're planning already because you can see how so many athletes mentally when they know their career has somewhat of a shelf life or a somewhat of a time span like it's so hot it's it just completely wrote but I remember you're reminding me of when I had the fortune of sitting down with Kobe Bryant and I said sat down with him when he'd already retired wow and I interviewed him oh so great I'm so jealous he was one of those people that was not upset being retired he loved it because he knew that his mission for him was to make these short movies and make all these uh Sports based content to inspire kids to tell their stories and to help them find better stories and so it's exactly what you're saying where he wasn't he's one of those people that I've met he was not sad about he was so happy he was so pumped that's what I'm working towards yeah because he he knew that he had a mission and he had a purpose and he'd gone and won an Oscar for a short movie that he'd made and you know he was creating content to inspire kids and that's where his heart was and of course watching his daughters play and so I'm super inspired by him yeah I know but yeah like when you said that that's what I remembered and and he was in the same boat he was like I always wanted to script right and never had time to script right he said I was always playing basketball and he goes but then I started script writing and I got a coach and then I was writing and getting better as a writer that's what I think when I've spoken to other athletes we focused so much on that being the best you can be and that one thing that the other things that you also love like if it's playing an instrument or if it's writing scripts like it all falls everything falls away and yeah um how can you come compartmentalize staying in the in the zone in the focus Lane but also building up some of those other skills and discovering other passions you know people's we've heard people tell LeBron shut up and dribble like yeah that's there there's a lot of people put you in the box and say this you can only do one thing but as I've seen and spoken to some people that are active and retired a lot of them say when particularly when they retire that they everything kind of fell apart like everything fell to the ground they had nothing to back it up with and they hadn't discovered what they're doing next so then they go through this emotional Journey um of of Discovery but it takes time so I'm like trying to learn from those things and applying them and find the other things that I'm passionate about so I generally feel today that I have lots of things in the pipeline that when I do stop it's gonna be like so grateful but I have something better that I'm moving on to yeah um but I I have no doubts that I oh me and my dad will always have to go to the go-kart track or something you know I'm always going to be competitive yeah I can't that's literally a strain in My DNA that's just never gonna gonna shift I'm competitive at everything I'm happy to hear that it's it's it's I'm sure that's refreshing it's great for people to also hear that even to inspire young people or Inspire anyone who's gone to a place in their career where they know that there's a certain moment where things are going to wind down but then they're going to transition I think I don't think we celebrate the transitions enough in life and life is made up of transition absolutely and people think that it's maybe less or something but it's yeah it's it's not about that yeah exactly so it's fascinating you found that what are some of these like you said like um you know I've been doing jumps I've been doing this with my friends what are some of the routines that you put into place to help you manage your mindset because I feel like you're you said that being at 200 miles per hour for the duration of a race is like being in flow for you that means you're extremely comfortable with your own thoughts extremely comfortable with being in a high stress high pressure environment but being just with your own self talk to us about how you I mean it sounds like that's always been the case but what have you done to become more and more comfortable with that yeah I think naturally this is the natural ability right but um I've been out of focus for an hour and 45 minutes without making mistakes and that's that's literally insane it's unbelievable dealing with the pressures um a friend actually asked me last night because I talk about we lose a lot of race a lot of weight in the race yes like sometimes you can lose up to 10 pounds like four kilos and people like whoa I need to be particularly in America they're like oh I need to be a racing driver um for the weight loss but this question is my friend asked me the other day that's like where does the where does the weight go like yeah because my suit doesn't because afterwards I weigh less but the I'm like so it must evaporate you somewhere so I've never got to figure out where all that weight actually truly goes because it obviously isn't in sweat but that's like messed my mind about um but the suit definitely is obviously a little bit heavier but um it's about gaining tools and I think as when I was younger I didn't have I knew how to arrive at the race I channeled the so this emotion that I had through whatever those difficulties were into my driving so it's laser focused like if you watch a video for me when I was five years old on Blue Pizza you'll see I'm just laser focused but um being able to control emotions being out to be calm and present staying centered there are loads of obviously different methods that people can use so things that I try to that I've started to incorporate over the years more in my life is things like stretching things like yoga and meditation has been a real that for me was something that I never thought that that I kind of turned a blind eye to it when I was younger I thought that's not gonna be helpful but being able to be sit still for a second and listen to the noises around you um and understand you want to tap into that kind of in a child or whatever it may be that's for me been taking that moment for yourself each day treating yourself with love and being kind to yourself you know because I think for a long time I wasn't kind to myself and that's been a process uh doing things that being purposeful and and having real certain intentions each day no matter how big or small and you know I wake up I'm looking in the mirror brushing your teeth then stop for a second sake this today's gonna be the day today's gonna be great um and no matter what you're faced with you know just whatever you come out with yeah yeah talking to yourself also speaking to people I think is very important I think as a kid as I said I didn't feel like I could speak to people I didn't feel like I could tell my mom about these experiences I felt embarrassed I couldn't tell my dad so I thought he would fulfill think less of me I couldn't talk to any of the teachers couldn't tell my most my friends most of them uh weren't particularly of color so but finding learning to be open and speak to people or find someone to speak to whether it's a therapist or whatever that's that's been a huge um help um I don't not necessarily have a therapist especially someone that I'm able to then just have shoot a with basically yeah um and confide in and Trust like trust has been something that I've never had done didn't trust anybody through those experiments I had as a kid and it's been very very hard to build trust with people but creating allies finding things that are that you have in common with people like my boss for example him and I just breaking each other down and then just having realizing that was similar in many many ways but also very different but that's not what should divide us we can then be allies and so that's why we're working on being the most diverse team we're working on pushing we have we've studied ignite which is about getting you know improving that pipeline of into motorsport for people um from underserved communities and there's so much work to do you're doing it though man I'm trying to I'm trying to and you know to the point you were asking earlier like has has enough been done absolutely not in the industry yes and like you don't feel that yeah and it's not only in either industry it's everywhere and is that your goal to sort in the industry and then expand out or you're starting you're starting across the board anyway yeah yeah that well with the team with where it's we started an organization which called ignite which we both fund and that is focused on the sport Motorsport in general but Mission 44 is focused on a much you know societal challenges and barriers and and education and um that's a focused in the UK at the moment but I want to bring that over to the states absolutely man um you know hopefully by at least 2024 um also just been to Africa and there is so much Beauty there and I really really want to have an imp you know really want to help there as well so yeah um we will continue to expand but we're one of the one of the few black founding non-profit organizations in UK and with um black CEO for example a very diverse group of people um and just having those conversations with people of just what a diverse Workforce means and how that bet can benefit you when you have people from different backgrounds all coming up with a diverse diverse thought and creation it's that's how you have more success yeah it's a no it's a no-brainer when you hear it and you're just like wow that makes so much sense and creativity is better and you you'd be able to come up with far more innovative ideas and you've got so many more cultures now being celebrated involved and I I feel like it's it's interesting to me that the world hasn't caught on with that yet like it's it's interesting that even despite there being progress there's not enough progress but what what is the block like what is the stop is it a mindset is it just habits and laziness like what is the actual like if you got to the core of it from everyone you've been speaking to like what are you what is the issue is the issue that yeah is the issue just laziness and just oh this is the way things have always been or is it or is there actually like a setup I don't have the answer to it I I ask that question all the time and I come up with lots of different theories in my mind um sometimes I'm like maybe people don't just don't care maybe people's problems are so big that they don't have time to focus on other things and it's hard enough just to do the thing that you're focused on or just overcoming the issue that you're overcoming so how am I gonna have more time to yeah to speak about these things why should I take the risk and risk my next step and so I feel like it's about learning to be selfless right and um which is difficult to do if you're not being loving yourself and not in a good place yeah so I think it all comes to us at hopefully a time at a certain point in our lives um but also you know we live in a time where like social media is so it's such a dangerous it's such a powerful tool but it's also can be so dangerous and so dividing and I see people out there today and there's people that I admire that I'm that that I would follow and I'd be like how they projecting something that's not necessarily healthy for you for people out there how are they projecting they're not using this platform to be more inspirational or be more positive and there's others that are but then I don't you can't judge because that's their Journey well you can continue to do is try to you know with that Maya Angelou quote it's about being shining your light as bright as you can possibly get it and hope that by doing it you I think you automatically uh encourage the people around you to want to do the same and I never truly understood that until I see the team that I work with how we all Inspire each other how with this year for example we've had the you know 2022 has been one of the hardest years for us as a team um as we didn't build a great car and we had our struggles as many people do and how we've had to all come closer and the relationship I've had with people that I've worked with this team for 10 years and there's conversations we've had this year people have opened up like they've never opened up before people have cried like it's been it's been beautiful to see yeah I feel like with some a far better team than we've ever been before because we're living with intention we're actually talking about impact that everyone in the team's gone and had diversity inclusion training no one's been kind of like I'm not I'm not going through that class why do I have to go and learn with diversity and inclusions about it I'm and why it doesn't impact me you know people like I understand it doesn't I wouldn't necessarily notice it but I want to understand it more so I can be better in my working environment it's been unbelievable that's amazing also leaders within our sport are now now where we are on a road to being a more diverse and more inclusive sport but I think my job is to continuously make sure that it that that same the effort that we're putting in now doesn't kind of fall away and become kind of you know just because it was um trending yeah yeah yeah that is actually something that's on the top of the list sustainability is on the top of our list and that real true core values we don't go out of our way well you know because a lot of people it's very easy to kind of be led by the money success but making sure you stick to your core values it's so true so important it goes back to what you said though that that's what real leaders do like leaders don't follow what's trending like leaders have focused on transformation and then they're dedicated to transformation and they're going to keep doing it until they see a change whereas followers follow Trends and oh it's not trending now it doesn't matter we'll focus on something else but you know obviously it's so clear just listening to you today and it's amazing Because unless I'm so glad I've had this opportunity to talk to you because I can hear just how deeply dedicated you are to this and how it's at your core it's like it's everything that comes out of your pores today is just you know which is which is really special to see a value being embodied like to empower other people you have to embody the value first it doesn't just you don't just go around empowering people and so to hear how your soul and heart is like completely a sponge for this stuff and then to wanting to go and share it with the world it's really remarkable man ah thank you yeah well I mean it's I've I'm by far perfect no yeah I know and I think that's like it's not about being perfect it's about just every day one step at a time trying to be better trying to do more yeah and um learning a lot about myself I've had to break myself down in order to be able to be better and what do you mean by breaking yourself down uh well just when you when I told you about like all those barriers you put up over time to protect yourself and then kind of like knocking those barriers down yes and it's enabled me to connect with more people it's enabled me to realize my place in the world and I don't feel like I don't belong anymore I feel like uh you know I've got a place and I've got a purpose and that's and I think a lot of people are struggling to find that purpose but it's okay you'll you will find it do not give up keep getting up you know like just keep saying those things to yourself and you will eventually find it and you know you're already living in your purpose and having such a huge impact on so many people you know telling stories which uh is it's amazing to see um I started this production company inspired by like Kobe and so many out there but stories for me storytelling I watch a lot of movies I don't know about you but yeah I love movies especially Sports movies yeah like when I go home I'll like I you know order takeaway or make myself some pasta or something like that and then I put the plate in front of me and I can't eat till I found something to watch like my my Escape is watching a movie and I always like to find something hopefully inspiring yes but what the reason I created this um production company is because you know until recently we didn't have any people of color are superheroes We I think these stories storytelling is so so important for people out there for inspiring people and and I want to make sure that in and everything that I do every project that I work on is with a diverse Workforce like I'm doing this from one movie with um Brad Pitt and Joe kazinski and um but my job is to make sure that it's diverse behind the camera as it is on screen the story is empowering and uplifting um it's not there's no BS in terms of the racing and hopefully one kid will watch it and yeah or more and feel empowered to go and do something great absolutely I love that man I'm so glad you're doing that because when you said do I like movies the movie that came to my mind was uh race have you seen race because yeah so like that the story is unbelievable but when you watch the movie as well it's unbelievable to see what Jesse Owens did like to think that he had to go I can't even imagine I can't you know you just can't imagine if everyone's not seen the movie you have to go see them yeah it's just one of those movies that's like how do you do that like how do you go and race in Nazi Germany like I have like I must have been terrified terrifying and you know there's been so many great stories like that that are out there that need telling yeah um continuously telling yeah 42 is another one yeah 42 is awesome um but yeah there is these really unique people out there I think for me being in this sport being the only one and being the first is that is that has been lonely yeah and that has been really really a difficult thing to kind of understand and and um through my life I know many many people like Jesse for example being the first and only at the time you know I've taken huge inspiration from him Nelson Mandela was like ah he's just one of my biggest biggest Inspirations um I was so so fortunate to get to meet him when I was I was like 23 or something oh wow what was that like yeah ah it was mind-blowing I mean when you when you then I got to form one and you have the success all these things come and you don't even you've dreamed of being a racing driver but you didn't dream that all the other things of all the other things that come along like meeting other unbelievable people I went to Nelson Mandela's 90th birthday in London and I was sat on his table in this huge room full of like Bill Clinton was there like uh Denzel Washington was there open Winfrey sat right next to me like all these people that you would never ever in the million years dream of think you would ever get to meet yeah and then you discover and they're also just human beings with feelings and with emotions and with their own challenges but I was so young at the time it was it was I don't even recognize myself when I look back at me seven years ago I see a shell of me and I think I look today and see myself and know myself so much more um and that's again that's an empowering experience to be in but yeah I went into the room and met him and he sat at his chair and it was like walking into I was like God or like a king you know and his silk shirt was his Aura was something you could see his Aura his smile he was beaming that was the most probably the most impactful day for me um as a youngster wow Lewis it's unbelievable talking to you I mean what you've achieved on the track off the track and now I'm even more excited to see you continue to achieve uh as your journey continues because I'm going to say this and I don't say this often and I genuinely my team can vouch for and everyone else can listen back to any episode I think you're one of the most on-purpose people I've ever interviewed and I appreciate that no and I genuinely like it just there's nothing else that comes from your being apart from what your purpose currently is with Mission 44 and and it's it's really remarkable to meet someone who's so on purpose I don't I genuinely don't have that experience and the only person you reminded me of was Kobe he had it too when I was around him there was no there's nothing else it wasn't like he missed anything he was at peace he was it was peace with purpose you know and you have that same Aura and spirit from from at least my experience thank you so much it's so kind of you yeah and I really mean that I really mean that it's incredible so uh we we end every episode with a Fast Five which means every question has to be answered in one word to one sentence maximum okay and we ask these same questions to every guest that's ever been on the show I should be prepared for that because I've seen you so well no the the first question is what's the best advice you've ever heard or received I think it was the achieve my dad uh never give up that's been like the slogan in the back of my mind every single day the other one would be um just that you'll always be learning and that's what I learned from Nelson Mandela he was like I'm 19 and I'm still learning today and like I was like what can you tell me it's like I'm still learning today and it's okay to be learning you're always going to be learning something new and growing yourself wow that's beautiful very like wow but like guys that was pretty basic but no but it's not it's it's powerful knowing he said that yeah as in the fact that he said that on his 90th birthday that is powerful because it's a long way to go yeah and it's like a lot of people I feel like a lot of people feel by 90 especially him he has so much wisdom to share yeah but the fact that his wisdom was I'm just learning that yeah I'm still learning that's pretty cool all right second question uh what's the worst advice you ever heard or received give up it's just the opposite yeah yeah literally the worst bit of advice and it wasn't I mean it wasn't necessarily advice but I when I was younger there was other parents of other racing drivers I was racing against I remember this one guy and he's like she just you just don't have it you should just give up their parents were saying their parents the grown man in these 40s or 50s told me that and I was eight told you told me yeah to my face and I remember just being so like what am I supposed to do with that what do you mean give up what was the reason I would imagine because I was beating his kid maybe I don't know I never really thought of what the reason would be and the same with teachers you know yeah what is this crap you know you're terrible at this you'll never know go to the next set you're never gonna amount to anything why are you even here I had a parent I had a teacher tell me that and wow it broke me down so much question number three uh how do you deal with loss and how do you deal with the win I think success is as I mentioned earlier short-lived success is there's a lot less learn in succ	not just representation because you want them to even have the opportunity it's the fact that there's just no access point which is what you're trying to create I think what's what I find really beautiful about you doing it is you're doing it though when you're like I'm having all my emotions come up at the same time as trying to be a voice for other people and when you're saying like I'm I'm taking a knee because I know I have to make a stand externally but internally you're taking a knee because so much of your own stuff from years ago is coming back up like that must be quite hard when you're that's that strikes me as something that's really inspiring about what you did is that you were going through your own healing at the same time as trying to do healing for the world there is so much healing to do right and I was completely oblivious to that I needed healing I needed to really peel back some of those layers um I think for people that turn into tune into a race and you mentioned earlier on but when you we arrive everything's set up We There is work that we're doing in the background naturally people don't see they just see a show but there is an unbelievable amount of work that goes on in the background um when I talk to people that talk about how much weight you lose	8	6	4	not just representation because you want them to even have the opportunity it's the fact that there's just no access point which is what you're trying to create I think what's what I find really beautiful about you doing it is you're doing it though when you're like I'm having all my emotions come up at the same time as trying to be a voice for other people and when you're saying like I'm I'm taking a knee because I know I have to make a stand externally but internally you're taking a knee because so much of your own stuff from years ago is coming back up like that must be quite hard when you're that's that strikes me as something that's really inspiring about what you did is that you were going through your own healing at the same time as trying to do healing for the world there is so much healing to do right	I was completely oblivious to that I needed healing I needed to really peel back some of those layers um I think for people that turn into tune into a race and you mentioned earlier on but when you we arrive everything's set up We There is work that we're doing in the background naturally people don't see they just see a show but there is an unbelievable amount of work that goes on in the background um when I talk to people that talk about how much weight you lose	8,6,9	4,5,6	8	6	9	4	5	6
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyiWKXTd9aY	4,235	AyiWKXTd9aY	2023-01-23 00:00:00	I think the easiest thing in life is to give up on whatever you know whatever you're focused on or whatever you're hopeful for the hardest thing is to keep going but we have to like we have to continue to hold on and I would imagine for so many people out there that is probably the most difficult thing the best-selling author and host the number one Health and Wellness podcast on purpose with Jay Shetty hey everyone welcome back to on purpose the number one Health podcast in the world thanks to each and every one of you that come back every week to listen learn and grow now I know that our community is dedicated to living happier healthier and more healed lives and I love sitting down with people who are dedicated to their own happiness their own health their own healing and doing that for the world through their work and I have to be honest it's not every day that you get to sit down with someone you admire you're inspired by you look up to and someone who is truly the definition of the word goat uh I'm talking about the one and only sir Lewis Hamilton seven time Formula One World Champion someone with over a hundred race wins considered the most successful F1 driver of all time and Lewis's willingness to embrace what makes him different has defined his values and outlook on life and in 2014 those values saw him win BBC's Sports personality of the Year followed two years later by a position in Time magazine's 100 most influential people list Lewis received both accolades for a second time in 2020 in a year that saw him become a leading voice in the global fight for racial equality in doing so he was recognized as British gq's Game Changer of the year and Powerless most influential black person in the UK and further to this Lewis won the 2020 glorious Sportsman of the Year award and most notably was formally recognized with a Knighthood in 2020 New Year's honors for his outstanding achievements and contribution to Motorsports on the track and off the track Lewis is also passionate activists for so many underrepresented groups and communities his mission 44 is doing incredible work please welcome to on purpose Lewis Hamilton Lewis thank you for being here thank you so much for having me no this honestly is a special one for me it's been one of those ones that you know when I first launched the podcast there were a few names that I wanted to sit down with and you were one of those names so for me it's a very special moment and for this to be your first ever podcast which you just told me I didn't even know and you literally told me this like 10 minutes ago and in my head I'm thinking wow thank I I'm so grateful to have that honor honestly honest mine I'm really so grateful for everything you do and so I've been following and listening to you and you sent me the book a long time ago already so I really appreciate everything you're doing today oh well thank you man thank you and I'm excited to unpack your journey because as we said because it's your first podcast people have heard parts of you but but we don't really understand the depth and the texture of of Lewis Hamilton and so I guess I want to start in a in a different place and we'll we'll kind of go through on this journey I wanted to ask you what do you feel is the hardest thing you've had to do in order to be who you are today I think continuing to have the belief in myself and not letting that Veer off since I was young since I've been told from my teachers that I would never amount to nothing The Bullying or the things that you face at the adversity you face the discrimination and just continue to keep your head up continuing to to march on ahead uh towards your dream and never lose inside now I think that's definitely for sure the most difficult thing is keeping keeping your goal and your eyes set on that and not being distracted um not giving up I think the easiest thing in life is to give up on whatever you know whatever you're focused on or whatever you're hopeful for the hardest thing is to continue to keep going but we have to like we have to continue to hold on and I would imagine for so many people out there that is that it that is probably the most difficult thing yeah I think that's a great answer because I think people look at you and they assume that you never have to make that choice right they see someone in your position someone who's achieved what you've achieved and the Assumption can be oh yeah but he's the greatest he was he was just always that way and he doesn't have to make that choice every day but as you said since the beginning of your life whether it's childhood whether it's breaking into a sport that wasn't set up for you there have been so many moments let's let's go back to school let's talk about some of that more in depth because I feel like a lot of people struggle at school but you kind of went through a lot of altercations and adversities at that time what were some of the things you were hearing some of the bullying some of the racism the experiences that you had that felt limiting or made it feel like it was easier to give up I think for me I mean school was the most probably the most traumatizing and diff most difficult part of my life wow um I already was being bullied at the age of six um I think at the time that particular school I was probably one of three kids of color and just bigger stronger bullying kids were throwing me around a lot of the time I was always the last picked in the you know when you're standing playground in your uh in the line of when they're picking teams for football I was always the last one chosen or not even chosen even if I was better than somebody else um and then the the constant Jabs the things that are either thrown at you like bananas or people that would use the m word just so relaxed um people calling you half cast and you know just really not knowing where you fit in that for me was difficult when you then go into like history class and everything you learn in history there are no people of color in the history that they were teaching us so I was thinking oh well where are the people that look like me and I mean for me in my school there was only around I think there was around seven maybe six seven black kids out of 1200 kids and three of us were else put outside the headmaster's office all the time the Headmaster just had it out for for us and particularly for me I would say so like just juggling all these different emotions that you're feeling plus I struggled at school I didn't find out till I was 16 that I was dyslexic fortunately I came across a teacher that was actually caring and um took me down that road and helped me discover a little bit more about myself and how I can better myself through education but um I think that for me was that was tough also because I was racing every weekend I would leave on the Thursday night we would travel you know pack up the motorhome we'll travel around the country to race on the weekends and no one else knew when I'd got back to school every all the kids have done normal things on the weekend and I'll come back and say I'm I was racing and people would be like oh I've done that before you know like at this at the theme park or something but no one really knew what my goal was and could really they thought we would maybe it was a joke you missed a lot of that social interaction also I was putting all the lowest sets at school and told that if you do well you can progress and then never ever let me progress no matter how hard I tried um so I really felt that the system was really up against me and I was kind of swimming against the tide but I'm so grateful for that that Journey because that's what built me to the person that I am today but there were a lot of things that I suppressed because I I couldn't go home and say hey to my I didn't feel I could go home and talk to my parents that you know these kids kept calling me them where today I got bullied I got beaten up at school today or I you know I wasn't able to defend myself I didn't want my dad to think I was not strong and so I'll you know if I had tears I would hold them back if I had emotions it would be in a quiet place and um it wasn't really till I started racing that I was able to channel this emotion that I had into my driving and it's like when I put this helmet on Superman was my favorite I loved how he fought for the people and I loved how he did the right things and he was a really inspiring character for me but again no superhero was of color so you know but you can still aspire to be someone that's if they don't look like you you know um and so I remember going to karate I remember putting this helmet on in racing and it felt like it was my cloak you know my superpowers had come out when I was driving and I was battling with these kids and I was doing able to do things that they seemed to not be able to do as well and that was my love wow yeah I mean it's my mind was opposite I was bullied a lot at school as well I was one of five people of color in my primary school and I was also overweight and so I was bullied for that and obviously you know my parents are from Indian backgrounds and so they'd gone through it much worse than I did when when they'd moved to England but the difference was that I would go cry to my mum and then my mum would come try and save the day in school and that was the worst that was so embarrassing like your mum's they're telling the teacher what happened and then I'm like oh no Mom don't do this and then it's even more embarrassing because the kids pick on you going oh mum came to say oh yeah yeah Mommy's right yeah so that that was my version of it I wasn't scared of crying to my mum but then it had it had different things but yeah that that's so hard as a kid when you're going through that and you're trying to find yourself you're trying to figure out what confidence is you don't even know what that means you feel like not going to school but then even though you're saying you found it in racing I mean racing was similar because you were working class you're still to this day the only working-class black driver to do as successfully as you have so not only do you have it at school you also have it in your passion like in the thing that is your cloak is your Superman so how does it feel when you're also dealing with it in that area where you've discovered what your passion or your interest is at that age what does it feel like when you're getting in that space it's inescapable you know you use that as an escape but then you're confronted with it also and so I was just grateful that I had this amazing figure in my dad you know I got a you know my best one of my best friends like his dad was never there I know there's not many people that have separated parents and and being shared between parents is not an easy thing um you know some days with your mom and some days we did that my my mum was the soft loving parent so that's where I really I feel like I learned a lot of compassion and empathy that's where I feel like I get it from her and my dad was at that strong like kind of stronger Rock and also just someone that looked like me on and just he would say do you talking on the track don't be distracted by it don't listen to what they're saying do your driving on track and show let's just be quiet and walk away as well as you know um so but you know again like your parents my parents went through well particularly my dad was someone that also face adversity through his life and he's like I want to do everything in my power to create a better life for my kid so that I don't feel or experience the things that I have encountered and through my through my journey and so but I think for me it was also difficult having biracial you know I'm biracial so having a white mother mother for example and a black dad I knew my dad would understand the racial slurs that I surrounded me my mum couldn't understand it so I couldn't really speak to my mum about it she was loving but she's never been educated within it she didn't know anything about black history and slavery and so it was a very difficult but but I had love there which was the most important thing yeah um but in the racing it was like you know like kids you just want to enjoy yourself you want to be included and you know when you're kind of outcast a little bit it's um it's difficult for kids you know and so that's why today like I'm like if I'm posting something I hope that when I do click that button I hope that it is a positive wave for some of the kids out there that are being distracted by all the stuff that's going on around the world yeah I mean I was I was telling you earlier I was so grateful came out to watch you in Austin a couple of weeks ago and got to meet your dad and I heard you talk about your dad in that way before and so when I met him I was it was I was just you know it's nice to share that with him and I was just saying how beautiful it is to see your relationship and and how it's evolved it's always been that way yeah yeah that's what I thought yeah yeah to walk us through whatever you feel my dad has been like the leader in getting me you know he had four jobs at one stage just to keep us go-karting because when we all started gokind most of the people were majority of the people were from working class families um so but then there are of course a few wealthier kids that have slightly better access to equipment and um mechanics and all those sorts of things and my dad was my mechanic so it was just me and him on the road and and my stepmom Linda um she would be there supporting um making sure that we're fully clothed making sure that we we've eaten and we're hydrated all those sorts of things for the weekend prepare my kid um so it was very much a family outing it was a family kind of um family weekend we did it as a family um we've traveled together my little brother would be on the road with us as well who's a major inspiration you've definitely got to speak to me one day um born with Cerebral Palsy um when I was seven and is a speaker today so he's and racing he's done he's defined all the odds and wow uh even though he's seven years younger than me still very much an inspiration but the thing with my dad was he was maybe he was my manager all the way till I was like 20 I got to we got to phone one and he was he worked so hard his work ethic for me was that that's was inspiring for me seeing how hard he worked the time he gets up in the morning the little sleep that he would have end of his day in the garage working on the go-kart preparing for the weekend packing up the track and getting us to where we are mechanicing learning to be a better mechanic and and still weighing all these different things it was quite phenomenal to see um but I think it was difficult for him to then show me love and sometimes you just want to hug from your dad you know or when you're facing these things you want to be able to be embraced but um when I think I got to when I was 22 23 it got really intense when I got to form one because all of a sudden you're thrown into you go through karting and cars you don't go to school to to learn to speak to the media you're literally thrown into the pit and at the time I didn't have management other than my dad my stepmom were booked flights and trips but um I didn't have PR I didn't have anybody to help protect me or prepare me for things driving I was good I would say but in these things is where a lot of mistakes happened um you've got the the kind of all the media attention and you have to so you're just learning on the go which was very difficult for a youngster I think yeah absolutely and and also I just you wanted to try and live some sort of normal normal life but nothing's normal for you at the time and the thing for me and my dad were just we're really bumping his at one stage it's like I really just want you to be my dad so we can let's go and have fun let's go and have a laugh but we hadn't had that for a long time and so um eventually I decided to sit part ways for my dad and I was like I'm gonna start making some of the decisions for myself and the mistakes that I'm gonna need to make and there was definitely a period of time where we spoke less um but we both have worked so hard to come back together and we have one of the greatest you know he's the first person I want to call when I finish a race um because I know he knows what it's like he was there from day one and so you know he's been to the last two races with me he's probably gonna come to the next one there's days where I do feel like I'm not enough there's days where I don't feel like I'm good enough and people be like yeah but you've won seven World titles anyway yeah but still there's days where I question no you still got it you still are you can you still be the best yes you can and so I have to just always I'm having that conversation with myself often but my dad's also there sometimes I'll say something that's maybe not the most positive and he'll be the one there just reaffirming no you've got this believe in yourself and it's so important for people to have people like that around them and I support myself I surround myself with other positive people as well and we continue I think it's all our job to lift every as many you know everyone up right I want everyone around me to win and yeah um and to become the best versions of themselves so no thank you for sharing that as well thank you for opening up about that because yeah I think the relationships we have with our parents are just so significant when it comes to achievement and success and when you start doing sport at your level even at an early age wins and losses starts becoming so important so win and loss is important in everyone's life in the sense that everyone has it in exams in school and things like that which we'll talk about in a second as well but for you you're having a in a very over way like you have one two three and then you have everyone else and and how have you kind of worked with that since you're young because I can imagine that your psychology can become very much like if you win things are great if you lose things are bad how have you kind of processed that as time's gone on and was there a time when it was unhealthy and difficult and has it got better or is it something you're always working on so on one side of things you know I struggled at school as I said so the teachers would write these reports that I was not focused or I wasn't doing well and and I remember the fear of that report every year and I try so hard to do well and then these teachers I don't know if teachers out there realize when they write those reports what's happening back at home whether you have an abusive uh household or you know the the stress of that was was difficult I feel embracing if I if I would win I could see a smile on my dad's face and it was really like okay if I do well at this I know that I'll be accepted you know um but I go to work double hard to be I've got to always be first I always laugh about the whole if you're not first you last because I'm literally whilst that's obviously I've not been fresh my whole life first was everything yeah um in order to be accepted in order to fit in and maybe to be appreciated um not only in within my relationship perhaps with my dad but then also around my friends and it was until I got older I realized it's about the bigger picture but when you have success it's so short-lived it's like it really is really short-lived you win a race then you go back home and you have big as a racing driver you know the weekend's so intense you've seen it there's so much energy so much it's really really in a stressful environment for everyone that's working within it then you go home and there's a huge come down like one or two days later and you're trying to balance those emotions that emotional rollercoaster um and learning to kind of channel that and figure out ways to keep it balanced whether with your routine and those sorts of things has been really key for me but I think during the last couple of last few years really understanding that it's about the bigger picture um I'm fighting for something far greater than winning a race I'm really fighting for changing the world you know we're more divided than ever I would say it's devastating I can't watch the news it's devastating every there's so much happening but there are so many great people out there that are doing really great things and I want to be one of I want to be a part of that [Music] inspirational energy bubble that people like yourselves are a part of um because we want to we need to create a brighter future we need to create better Future Leaders look how many look how bad our leaders are that are in governments you know like we need to be as part of the next generation of thought leaders um that are positive and um yeah so that's what I'm trying to be a part of every day I'm so I'm really trying to focus on my intentions as you're talking about like setting your intentions each day um I'm trying to learn new tools that I didn't have when I was a kid I didn't I didn't know about yoga I didn't know about meditation um I didn't have podcasts to listen to good people to listen to and aspire to kind of help me put on the right path so yeah um yeah we've got a lot of work to do there's almost not enough time here on this planet right we're here for such a short time really in the Scale of the Universe yeah but I think you're one of those people that you know and that's when we first connected that was one of the biggest reasons for me that I saw you using your platform for a bigger purpose I was like oh that's fascinating like that's so interesting to me because that's a choice too I think today we kind of assume that if someone has a platform or if someone's you know number one in their field or if someone's got followers that they should talk about stuff we kind of assume that anyone who has followers should talk about stuff first of all I don't think that's the case I think a lot of people choose not to uh but but you were someone that stood out to me massively where I was just like wow this person's really not just winning on on the track but it's thinking about how winning on the track transfers to what you can do off the track because of the influence because of your network because of your impact and I find that to be really The Missing Link for so many people because I always say that your purpose is something not just that makes you happy it's when you use what makes you happy to serve other people like when you use it to impact other people's lives when did that drop for you like when did that click for you like were you ever I guess what I'm trying to say is there's a transition when you're saying that well you know winning like maybe get the nod from my dad and obviously I was bullied and then I'm winning but then I'm number one at something like was there a point at which number one didn't satisfy you or was there a point at which the success that came from it or or you didn't actually have to get dissatisfied you just found that there was a better way to be successful does that make sense the parv that was striking when you're just saying that for me it was like I feel like we often live in fear of what people think um how you're going to be judged how you're going to be received if you you're free outspoken you're going to lose your job you're going to be fired I've always been a outspoken person I think that's just been a quality I've never been a follower um I don't like to conform to how people expect what people of what people expect from you as I said I was having a success and I was like okay now I'm on I'm at the top what can I do with it yeah and there are so many causes there's so many problems out there and there's so many so many amazing causes and which one you know there's only one of you so like what where do you put the focus and that's take it took a long long time to really find what that was for me I think for me education was something that I felt extremely passionate about because I I've been out to India I'd been out into some of the really poorest places like Manila and seeing young kids who are like us but begging for food and not having the same opportunities and for me that was that broke my heart and realized how privileged we are and how fortunate we are it was like I want to be working with people out there that are trying to create more you know there's over 100 million kids that don't have access to school or education so how can I get involved in that so align yourself with people that do but I think I was I was winning and it was giving me that tip of happiness but then I would kind of drop back down to normality and there was something missing and it was that purpose really or understanding what that purpose was and understanding what why you've been put here why are you beginning the platform that you've that you've been given why were the only you know only people of color this whole time through it all and when I started speaking about um diversity people like oh you want to get more people of coloring as as racing drivers only 20 of us so as I know it's this forty thousand forty fifty thousand jobs there's thousands of engineering jobs in the background and there's such a lack of diversity coming through I want to be a part of Shifting that narrative and shifting that conversation and having people be question themselves and have those difficult conversations with with people so I first I just started by having those difficult conversations with my boss and one of the things he brings up that he said that hit him hard I said have you ever thought of as a white person walking into the paddock into the race weekend Paddock and being the only white person there he's like he's like I hadn't even thought of that I said well that's what it's like for someone like me when I'm in the room you noticed you noticed that out of 50 people in a meeting you're the only person the black person there and it's not because we are less is because there are these barriers within Society through education that are limiting people to be the best they can be so my job is to be empowering and improving representation I'm really really passionate like black Equity as well so that's why I got involved with the Denver Broncos Denver Broncos yeah yeah and usually when I'm in conversation with sponsors or companies I'm like hey so what it how diverse is your team what are you doing about diversity inclusion how are you creating a better work workspace for people that's what I want to be a part of I the success can come later and that's that would be along the way but if you're not asking those questions or you're not tackling those issues then we're not blind yeah and so all them pretty much every partner that we have we have a lot of Partners within our team I've asked these really difficult questions and they're like oh you know what but we can do more I'm like well let's do it you know yeah so I think I've grown very close with my like Mercedes-Benz and Gamma they've been so open that we changed the car from Silver to Black in 2020. and as again I said to them like the car's been silver forever it's always been silver arrows and I was like imagine if we change the card to Black well that could you know us turning up and arriving is how you show up and it's how you know imagine the message we can send and we had the black car for the whole year and we didn't even really talk much about it we just let it be and we went with it and that's when I won myself with that car so that's beautiful now that must have felt special it was honestly my whole life flashed by my not that last lap in Turkey my whole life like all the struggles the questioning whether you were going to make it or not just all those doubts all those fears kind of flash by Me by you know through my eyes and came across the line and I was like I did it and I wanted the kids out there to know that you can do it too you know um so that's what I try and like every day just try to be encouraging of kitchen yeah yeah do you sometimes feel that we were talking about this a bit earlier that you know in other sports we get to see the emotions and the expressions of players that we love or you know anyone who's on the court or the field of the pitch whereas with you because we don't get to see that in your eyes in your last lap like that we can only hear it today which is why I'm so grateful to have this moment because I obviously whenever whenever I'm sit down with someone who's a high performer like you it's obvious that there's so much emotion and preparation and power but with racing specifically you just don't get to see that do you sometimes feel that the only people that can truly relate to you are the people you compete with because I feel like it's like you said there's only 20 of you that are racing anyway it's lonely anyway 99 of people in the world have no idea what it feels like to drive a car as fast as you do and the way you do in in any comparison do you sometimes feel that the only people you can relate to are the people that are racing against you and then do you kind of feel is there a loneliness in that experience or is that kind of like a power in that as well definitely the other drivers I do feel that there's more we have a lot more in common than we think but we're so competitive and a lot of us have our defense like you want to beat the guy but then you like the guy you might like the person outside the car but you can't show that like there's this whole psychological battle you're having with yourself and getting away of yourself a lot of the time so I really feel like as an older driver I'm trying to be more like reaching out to youngsters and um because they're the future you know um and I'm excited to see some of these young drivers are coming through are so so talented I don't know if they've got the best structure around them like I mean like I didn't necessarily have the ultimate structure that I perhaps have now so just try to be a kind of a positive light to them but naturally none of them are black and none of them have necessarily faced the same as me but they've faced their own challenges and and things about respecting that with within everybody and I've tried to be create allies necessarily like in having the difficult conversations with some of them I mean I'm so grateful for I've had a couple of them it really took the knee with me in 2020 um just on that you know my dad was going back to the house with my dad my dad like never let me cry as a kid he said there's a sign of weakness like don't let me ever see you shed a tear so I remember just holding back through those difficult times as a kid holding back most of that stuff in 2020 I cried I hadn't cried for at least I think at least 10 years maybe more it was there was a lot of bottled up stuff that came up that I had not realized that didn't even know about suppressing a pain or a feeling so I remember kind of bending on my knees thinking no what has happened in the world I've got to I've got to be outspoken I've got to take that chance because if I don't do it then no one's gonna do it if I don't if I don't take the knee if I don't let people like me know that I care and I hear you and I'm I'm with you and I'm going to do something about it I'm going to risk it all I don't care if my partners want to drop me because I want to be associated with this narrative I don't I'm like and I literally let go of all the fear and that's why I went came so forward with it and I know it's not easy for everyone to do that um but I just want to really and try to encourage people out there too to be themselves to speak out if they've got a problem if they're seeing something within the work working environment or experiencing something you gotta be outspoken about it and there's a right way to do it the first day I was going to take the knee I remember I didn't feel like I could tell my team I was like because I know I felt that they wouldn't understand how important it is for me to do this this day so I remember I had my black lives matter a shirt hidden and I just wore it out there and I I went ahead within so no one knew no one knew but every uh the sport had built and made all these t-shirts like um we race as one yeah slogan and they gave these t-shirts to all the to everybody I was like I'm not wearing that that's not what this is about and so this is what I'm doing and this was around George Floyd right yeah and afterwards my team were like well why don't you if you just told us we could have prepared a bit over I had this fear that they would try and stop me perhaps but that was just a fear um they've been massively supportive through the whole thing My Hope was that you know kids would be watching me like what it what it what is that why is he taking me what what does that shirt mean what is going on Dad Mom and then the parents being in an awkward position having to explain it maybe but I think what was really encouraging for me I think when we started really getting into the whole diversity inclusion we did the research there was only three percent out of two thousand people in the team as three percent diversity so since then we've been on this Mission the team have started new projects we've discovered that the the sport generally hires from one group of universities which is not diverse and if there are any young black students that go there they're twice as unlikely to be hired when they come out compared to their counterparts and also paid less exercises all these things that perhaps people didn't know that's the Hamilton commission right yeah yeah and that just was interesting to to experience that and now now we're working on like a diversity Charter that all the teams have to be a part of and it's not mine it's for the sport and it's to encourage those teams because there's still not any diversity within you know if you look at Ferrari they don't have hardly any there's most teams don't um but when I go back to my team to the factory normally in our marketing department wasn't very diverse initially and I walked in after the pandemic and I started seeing such a more diverse group of people I was really quite emotional because I was like oh my God there's I'm starting to see change but you don't see that on TV yeah so when I talk to the to the bosses of the sport I'm like hey you know there's all white men facing oh and and me facing the camera at the start of the race where are the women where are the people of color we've got to be showing some young kids are watching and they're like oh there's a place for me there I can be there I can be an engineer I can be a mechanic or whatever it may be and even for young girls oh I can be a racing driver or an engineer a strategist or whatever you know so representation's so so key to inspiring the young youth especially in these industries that they already have less access to right like that's the point that it's not just it's not just representation because you want them to even have the opportunity it's the fact that there's just no access point which is what you're trying to create I think what's what I find really beautiful about you doing it is you're doing it though when you're like I'm having all my emotions come up at the same time as trying to be a voice for other people and when you're saying like I'm I'm taking a knee because I know I have to make a stand externally but internally you're taking a knee because so much of your own stuff from years ago is coming back up like that must be quite hard when you're that's that strikes me as something that's really inspiring about what you did is that you were going through your own healing at the same time as trying to do healing for the world there is so much healing to do right and I was completely oblivious to that I needed healing I needed to really peel back some of those layers um I think for people that turn into tune into a race and you mentioned earlier on but when you we arrive everything's set up We There is work that we're doing in the background naturally people don't see they just see a show but there is an unbelievable amount of work that goes on in the background um when I talk to people that talk about how much weight you lose they're like yeah you just sit in the car and you drive um there's this huge psychological and emotional roller coaster that you're going through that it would be really hard for people to comprehend and you would mention about all these other athletes you see their faces in other sports you can't see because we've got helmet on but you go through this roller coaster ride in the race and then you get out and they the camera's right in your face you're not prepared for that your emotions are shot particularly if you failed or feel like you failed and you don't always answer the right way if you wear your your heart on your sleeve people that don't necessarily like that necessary always people take advantage of that so then you build up all these protection mechanisms and mechanisms that's not necessarily you and at the core but won't be the safest thing for you you know what I mean like I read something the other day about it's like three steps of you and there's one the one of which you present your uh who you present there's you and your who you are to you and your family and friends and then there's one the part of you the real you that no one ever gets to see and I think just today in today's world it's so vicious on social media it's the media can be you know can really tell you apart and you build up you know like you you make a mistake in something you say in the media and your ridicule Feud you never do it again so you build up and you go more and more in your shell and you become harder for people to really relate to but I think for me what I've realized in these last few years is really peeling back those layers and you know letting people know that I grew up in a council state I you know I've lived on the sofa with my uh my my parents we've had those struggles um the successful people out there you see they too have had those things where we need to show that young kids who are going through that same thing that oh I can if he can get there or they can get there then it must be possible for me too yeah um and like being showing you about vulnerability that's something that I really struggled to to to do for a long long time and um like today that's something I think I'm a lot more open than I've ever ever been yeah I'm not living in fear every day and that's like the most that's the most important thing I think for me personally I'm living a much happier life because I'm I'm a lot more open yeah it's liberating yeah absolutely yeah it's liberating when you finally feel like you're not trapped or you're hiding held or yeah or hiding yeah or hiding my favorite quotes is from my Angelo when she says we are all powerful beyond measure and that really hit home also for me that that's my favorite quote because and I have a tattooed because really we are so we do limit ourselves we get in our own way right along with the other things that get in our way but a lot of our fear stops us from driving forwards from progressing and that's why like I do the craziest things I jump out of planes yeah you've done what 80 jumps yeah like just just I love challenging myself and doing things even though there's maybe fear there but overcoming that fear is like it's the best feeling when you overcome it and you realize that she was all just a bunch of nonsense in your head I want to encourage so all my friends I'm like let's go and do this today they're like are you crazy my dad don't even think as a kid my dad was like is he really my son because I wouldn't do any of these things and even still today um I still find that he's actually done skydiving with my Dad yeah he said he would never do it but he did it so but driving 200 miles per hour is probably one of the scariest things that you do all the time like that's not for you anymore whatever things I've never had that fear yeah uh as a kid and I was just never you know I think if you go on a ski slope and you see these kids coming by the kids are generally Fearless right yeah but think as you go get older yes you start you hurt yourself a little bit you start protecting yourself more and more but I just don't have that I think I feel like that was something that just wasn't necessarily put in me I'm terrified of spiders yeah that's the only thing but I'm doing 200 miles an hour that's actually when I'm most at peace I would say yeah it's like I'm like flowing it's like my that's my element and that's why I like I love doing what I do it could be really really hard when I start racing I've been doing for 30 years I'm 37 I've been racing 30 years and when you stop like what what's gonna match that nothing's gonna have a probably a match being in the stadium or being at the race and being at the Pinnacle the sport being at the front of the greater or coming through the grid that motion that I get there when I do stop that will be a there'll be a big hole Yeah so I'm trying to generally focus on things find things that are going to replace that that will also be just as rewarding and that's like Mission 44 for me meeting kids at schools having these conversations with families and parents who clearly you're going through difficult times and want to create the best opportunity for their kids encouraging them they're like okay I've been there too look where I got so you can get there it's just got to work through it that's for me the that's way more rewarding than winning the race yeah so much more yeah that's I'm so grateful and I'm so happy that everyone's gonna getting to hear this I felt you're the only and I know you know you're talking about when that happens but it's brilliant that you're planning already because you can see how so many athletes mentally when they know their career has somewhat of a shelf life or a somewhat of a time span like it's so hot it's it just completely wrote but I remember you're reminding me of when I had the fortune of sitting down with Kobe Bryant and I said sat down with him when he'd already retired wow and I interviewed him oh so great I'm so jealous he was one of those people that was not upset being retired he loved it because he knew that his mission for him was to make these short movies and make all these uh Sports based content to inspire kids to tell their stories and to help them find better stories and so it's exactly what you're saying where he wasn't he's one of those people that I've met he was not sad about he was so happy he was so pumped that's what I'm working towards yeah because he he knew that he had a mission and he had a purpose and he'd gone and won an Oscar for a short movie that he'd made and you know he was creating content to inspire kids and that's where his heart was and of course watching his daughters play and so I'm super inspired by him yeah I know but yeah like when you said that that's what I remembered and and he was in the same boat he was like I always wanted to script right and never had time to script right he said I was always playing basketball and he goes but then I started script writing and I got a coach and then I was writing and getting better as a writer that's what I think when I've spoken to other athletes we focused so much on that being the best you can be and that one thing that the other things that you also love like if it's playing an instrument or if it's writing scripts like it all falls everything falls away and yeah um how can you come compartmentalize staying in the in the zone in the focus Lane but also building up some of those other skills and discovering other passions you know people's we've heard people tell LeBron shut up and dribble like yeah that's there there's a lot of people put you in the box and say this you can only do one thing but as I've seen and spoken to some people that are active and retired a lot of them say when particularly when they retire that they everything kind of fell apart like everything fell to the ground they had nothing to back it up with and they hadn't discovered what they're doing next so then they go through this emotional Journey um of of Discovery but it takes time so I'm like trying to learn from those things and applying them and find the other things that I'm passionate about so I generally feel today that I have lots of things in the pipeline that when I do stop it's gonna be like so grateful but I have something better that I'm moving on to yeah um but I I have no doubts that I oh me and my dad will always have to go to the go-kart track or something you know I'm always going to be competitive yeah I can't that's literally a strain in My DNA that's just never gonna gonna shift I'm competitive at everything I'm happy to hear that it's it's it's I'm sure that's refreshing it's great for people to also hear that even to inspire young people or Inspire anyone who's gone to a place in their career where they know that there's a certain moment where things are going to wind down but then they're going to transition I think I don't think we celebrate the transitions enough in life and life is made up of transition absolutely and people think that it's maybe less or something but it's yeah it's it's not about that yeah exactly so it's fascinating you found that what are some of these like you said like um you know I've been doing jumps I've been doing this with my friends what are some of the routines that you put into place to help you manage your mindset because I feel like you're you said that being at 200 miles per hour for the duration of a race is like being in flow for you that means you're extremely comfortable with your own thoughts extremely comfortable with being in a high stress high pressure environment but being just with your own self talk to us about how you I mean it sounds like that's always been the case but what have you done to become more and more comfortable with that yeah I think naturally this is the natural ability right but um I've been out of focus for an hour and 45 minutes without making mistakes and that's that's literally insane it's unbelievable dealing with the pressures um a friend actually asked me last night because I talk about we lose a lot of race a lot of weight in the race yes like sometimes you can lose up to 10 pounds like four kilos and people like whoa I need to be particularly in America they're like oh I need to be a racing driver um for the weight loss but this question is my friend asked me the other day that's like where does the where does the weight go like yeah because my suit doesn't because afterwards I weigh less but the I'm like so it must evaporate you somewhere so I've never got to figure out where all that weight actually truly goes because it obviously isn't in sweat but that's like messed my mind about um but the suit definitely is obviously a little bit heavier but um it's about gaining tools and I think as when I was younger I didn't have I knew how to arrive at the race I channeled the so this emotion that I had through whatever those difficulties were into my driving so it's laser focused like if you watch a video for me when I was five years old on Blue Pizza you'll see I'm just laser focused but um being able to control emotions being out to be calm and present staying centered there are loads of obviously different methods that people can use so things that I try to that I've started to incorporate over the years more in my life is things like stretching things like yoga and meditation has been a real that for me was something that I never thought that that I kind of turned a blind eye to it when I was younger I thought that's not gonna be helpful but being able to be sit still for a second and listen to the noises around you um and understand you want to tap into that kind of in a child or whatever it may be that's for me been taking that moment for yourself each day treating yourself with love and being kind to yourself you know because I think for a long time I wasn't kind to myself and that's been a process uh doing things that being purposeful and and having real certain intentions each day no matter how big or small and you know I wake up I'm looking in the mirror brushing your teeth then stop for a second sake this today's gonna be the day today's gonna be great um and no matter what you're faced with you know just whatever you come out with yeah yeah talking to yourself also speaking to people I think is very important I think as a kid as I said I didn't feel like I could speak to people I didn't feel like I could tell my mom about these experiences I felt embarrassed I couldn't tell my dad so I thought he would fulfill think less of me I couldn't talk to any of the teachers couldn't tell my most my friends most of them uh weren't particularly of color so but finding learning to be open and speak to people or find someone to speak to whether it's a therapist or whatever that's that's been a huge um help um I don't not necessarily have a therapist especially someone that I'm able to then just have shoot a with basically yeah um and confide in and Trust like trust has been something that I've never had done didn't trust anybody through those experiments I had as a kid and it's been very very hard to build trust with people but creating allies finding things that are that you have in common with people like my boss for example him and I just breaking each other down and then just having realizing that was similar in many many ways but also very different but that's not what should divide us we can then be allies and so that's why we're working on being the most diverse team we're working on pushing we have we've studied ignite which is about getting you know improving that pipeline of into motorsport for people um from underserved communities and there's so much work to do you're doing it though man I'm trying to I'm trying to and you know to the point you were asking earlier like has has enough been done absolutely not in the industry yes and like you don't feel that yeah and it's not only in either industry it's everywhere and is that your goal to sort in the industry and then expand out or you're starting you're starting across the board anyway yeah yeah that well with the team with where it's we started an organization which called ignite which we both fund and that is focused on the sport Motorsport in general but Mission 44 is focused on a much you know societal challenges and barriers and and education and um that's a focused in the UK at the moment but I want to bring that over to the states absolutely man um you know hopefully by at least 2024 um also just been to Africa and there is so much Beauty there and I really really want to have an imp you know really want to help there as well so yeah um we will continue to expand but we're one of the one of the few black founding non-profit organizations in UK and with um black CEO for example a very diverse group of people um and just having those conversations with people of just what a diverse Workforce means and how that bet can benefit you when you have people from different backgrounds all coming up with a diverse diverse thought and creation it's that's how you have more success yeah it's a no it's a no-brainer when you hear it and you're just like wow that makes so much sense and creativity is better and you you'd be able to come up with far more innovative ideas and you've got so many more cultures now being celebrated involved and I I feel like it's it's interesting to me that the world hasn't caught on with that yet like it's it's interesting that even despite there being progress there's not enough progress but what what is the block like what is the stop is it a mindset is it just habits and laziness like what is the actual like if you got to the core of it from everyone you've been speaking to like what are you what is the issue is the issue that yeah is the issue just laziness and just oh this is the way things have always been or is it or is there actually like a setup I don't have the answer to it I I ask that question all the time and I come up with lots of different theories in my mind um sometimes I'm like maybe people don't just don't care maybe people's problems are so big that they don't have time to focus on other things and it's hard enough just to do the thing that you're focused on or just overcoming the issue that you're overcoming so how am I gonna have more time to yeah to speak about these things why should I take the risk and risk my next step and so I feel like it's about learning to be selfless right and um which is difficult to do if you're not being loving yourself and not in a good place yeah so I think it all comes to us at hopefully a time at a certain point in our lives um but also you know we live in a time where like social media is so it's such a dangerous it's such a powerful tool but it's also can be so dangerous and so dividing and I see people out there today and there's people that I admire that I'm that that I would follow and I'd be like how they projecting something that's not necessarily healthy for you for people out there how are they projecting they're not using this platform to be more inspirational or be more positive and there's others that are but then I don't you can't judge because that's their Journey well you can continue to do is try to you know with that Maya Angelou quote it's about being shining your light as bright as you can possibly get it and hope that by doing it you I think you automatically uh encourage the people around you to want to do the same and I never truly understood that until I see the team that I work with how we all Inspire each other how with this year for example we've had the you know 2022 has been one of the hardest years for us as a team um as we didn't build a great car and we had our struggles as many people do and how we've had to all come closer and the relationship I've had with people that I've worked with this team for 10 years and there's conversations we've had this year people have opened up like they've never opened up before people have cried like it's been it's been beautiful to see yeah I feel like with some a far better team than we've ever been before because we're living with intention we're actually talking about impact that everyone in the team's gone and had diversity inclusion training no one's been kind of like I'm not I'm not going through that class why do I have to go and learn with diversity and inclusions about it I'm and why it doesn't impact me you know people like I understand it doesn't I wouldn't necessarily notice it but I want to understand it more so I can be better in my working environment it's been unbelievable that's amazing also leaders within our sport are now now where we are on a road to being a more diverse and more inclusive sport but I think my job is to continuously make sure that it that that same the effort that we're putting in now doesn't kind of fall away and become kind of you know just because it was um trending yeah yeah yeah that is actually something that's on the top of the list sustainability is on the top of our list and that real true core values we don't go out of our way well you know because a lot of people it's very easy to kind of be led by the money success but making sure you stick to your core values it's so true so important it goes back to what you said though that that's what real leaders do like leaders don't follow what's trending like leaders have focused on transformation and then they're dedicated to transformation and they're going to keep doing it until they see a change whereas followers follow Trends and oh it's not trending now it doesn't matter we'll focus on something else but you know obviously it's so clear just listening to you today and it's amazing Because unless I'm so glad I've had this opportunity to talk to you because I can hear just how deeply dedicated you are to this and how it's at your core it's like it's everything that comes out of your pores today is just you know which is which is really special to see a value being embodied like to empower other people you have to embody the value first it doesn't just you don't just go around empowering people and so to hear how your soul and heart is like completely a sponge for this stuff and then to wanting to go and share it with the world it's really remarkable man ah thank you yeah well I mean it's I've I'm by far perfect no yeah I know and I think that's like it's not about being perfect it's about just every day one step at a time trying to be better trying to do more yeah and um learning a lot about myself I've had to break myself down in order to be able to be better and what do you mean by breaking yourself down uh well just when you when I told you about like all those barriers you put up over time to protect yourself and then kind of like knocking those barriers down yes and it's enabled me to connect with more people it's enabled me to realize my place in the world and I don't feel like I don't belong anymore I feel like uh you know I've got a place and I've got a purpose and that's and I think a lot of people are struggling to find that purpose but it's okay you'll you will find it do not give up keep getting up you know like just keep saying those things to yourself and you will eventually find it and you know you're already living in your purpose and having such a huge impact on so many people you know telling stories which uh is it's amazing to see um I started this production company inspired by like Kobe and so many out there but stories for me storytelling I watch a lot of movies I don't know about you but yeah I love movies especially Sports movies yeah like when I go home I'll like I you know order takeaway or make myself some pasta or something like that and then I put the plate in front of me and I can't eat till I found something to watch like my my Escape is watching a movie and I always like to find something hopefully inspiring yes but what the reason I created this um production company is because you know until recently we didn't have any people of color are superheroes We I think these stories storytelling is so so important for people out there for inspiring people and and I want to make sure that in and everything that I do every project that I work on is with a diverse Workforce like I'm doing this from one movie with um Brad Pitt and Joe kazinski and um but my job is to make sure that it's diverse behind the camera as it is on screen the story is empowering and uplifting um it's not there's no BS in terms of the racing and hopefully one kid will watch it and yeah or more and feel empowered to go and do something great absolutely I love that man I'm so glad you're doing that because when you said do I like movies the movie that came to my mind was uh race have you seen race because yeah so like that the story is unbelievable but when you watch the movie as well it's unbelievable to see what Jesse Owens did like to think that he had to go I can't even imagine I can't you know you just can't imagine if everyone's not seen the movie you have to go see them yeah it's just one of those movies that's like how do you do that like how do you go and race in Nazi Germany like I have like I must have been terrified terrifying and you know there's been so many great stories like that that are out there that need telling yeah um continuously telling yeah 42 is another one yeah 42 is awesome um but yeah there is these really unique people out there I think for me being in this sport being the only one and being the first is that is that has been lonely yeah and that has been really really a difficult thing to kind of understand and and um through my life I know many many people like Jesse for example being the first and only at the time you know I've taken huge inspiration from him Nelson Mandela was like ah he's just one of my biggest biggest Inspirations um I was so so fortunate to get to meet him when I was I was like 23 or something oh wow what was that like yeah ah it was mind-blowing I mean when you when you then I got to form one and you have the success all these things come and you don't even you've dreamed of being a racing driver but you didn't dream that all the other things of all the other things that come along like meeting other unbelievable people I went to Nelson Mandela's 90th birthday in London and I was sat on his table in this huge room full of like Bill Clinton was there like uh Denzel Washington was there open Winfrey sat right next to me like all these people that you would never ever in the million years dream of think you would ever get to meet yeah and then you discover and they're also just human beings with feelings and with emotions and with their own challenges but I was so young at the time it was it was I don't even recognize myself when I look back at me seven years ago I see a shell of me and I think I look today and see myself and know myself so much more um and that's again that's an empowering experience to be in but yeah I went into the room and met him and he sat at his chair and it was like walking into I was like God or like a king you know and his silk shirt was his Aura was something you could see his Aura his smile he was beaming that was the most probably the most impactful day for me um as a youngster wow Lewis it's unbelievable talking to you I mean what you've achieved on the track off the track and now I'm even more excited to see you continue to achieve uh as your journey continues because I'm going to say this and I don't say this often and I genuinely my team can vouch for and everyone else can listen back to any episode I think you're one of the most on-purpose people I've ever interviewed and I appreciate that no and I genuinely like it just there's nothing else that comes from your being apart from what your purpose currently is with Mission 44 and and it's it's really remarkable to meet someone who's so on purpose I don't I genuinely don't have that experience and the only person you reminded me of was Kobe he had it too when I was around him there was no there's nothing else it wasn't like he missed anything he was at peace he was it was peace with purpose you know and you have that same Aura and spirit from from at least my experience thank you so much it's so kind of you yeah and I really mean that I really mean that it's incredible so uh we we end every episode with a Fast Five which means every question has to be answered in one word to one sentence maximum okay and we ask these same questions to every guest that's ever been on the show I should be prepared for that because I've seen you so well no the the first question is what's the best advice you've ever heard or received I think it was the achieve my dad uh never give up that's been like the slogan in the back of my mind every single day the other one would be um just that you'll always be learning and that's what I learned from Nelson Mandela he was like I'm 19 and I'm still learning today and like I was like what can you tell me it's like I'm still learning today and it's okay to be learning you're always going to be learning something new and growing yourself wow that's beautiful very like wow but like guys that was pretty basic but no but it's not it's it's powerful knowing he said that yeah as in the fact that he said that on his 90th birthday that is powerful because it's a long way to go yeah and it's like a lot of people I feel like a lot of people feel by 90 especially him he has so much wisdom to share yeah but the fact that his wisdom was I'm just learning that yeah I'm still learning that's pretty cool all right second question uh what's the worst advice you ever heard or received give up it's just the opposite yeah yeah literally the worst bit of advice and it wasn't I mean it wasn't necessarily advice but I when I was younger there was other parents of other racing drivers I was racing against I remember this one guy and he's like she just you just don't have it you should just give up their parents were saying their parents the grown man in these 40s or 50s told me that and I was eight told you told me yeah to my face and I remember just being so like what am I supposed to do with that what do you mean give up what was the reason I would imagine because I was beating his kid maybe I don't know I never really thought of what the reason would be and the same with teachers you know yeah what is this crap you know you're terrible at this you'll never know go to the next set you're never gonna amount to anything why are you even here I had a parent I had a teacher tell me that and wow it broke me down so much question number three uh how do you deal with loss and how do you deal with the win I think success is as I mentioned earlier short-lived success is there's a lot less learn in succ	or yeah or hiding yeah or hiding my favorite quotes is from my Angelo when she says we are all powerful beyond measure and that really hit home also for me that that's my favorite quote because and I have a tattooed because really we are so we do limit ourselves we get in our own way right along with the other things that get in our way but a lot of our fear stops us from driving forwards from progressing and that's why like I do the craziest things I jump out of planes yeah you've done what 80 jumps yeah like just just I love challenging myself and doing things even though there's maybe fear there but overcoming that fear is like it's the best feeling when you overcome it and you realize that she was all just a bunch of nonsense in your head I want to encourage so all my friends I'm like let's go and do this today they're like are you crazy my dad don't even think as a kid my dad was like is he really my son because I wouldn't do any of these things and even still today um I still find that he's actually done skydiving with my Dad yeah he said he would never do it but he did it so but driving 200 miles per hour is probably one of the scariest things that you do all the time like that's not for you anymore whatever things I've	8	7	9	or yeah or hiding yeah or hiding my favorite quotes is from my Angelo when she says we are all powerful beyond measure and that really hit home also for me that that's my favorite quote because and I have a tattooed because really we are so we do limit ourselves we get in our own way right along with the other things that get in our way but a lot of our fear stops us from driving forwards from progressing and that's why like I do the craziest things I jump out of planes yeah you've done what 80 jumps yeah like just just I love challenging myself and doing things even though there's maybe fear there but overcoming that fear is like it's the best feeling when you overcome it and you realize that she was all just a bunch of nonsense in your head I want to encourage so all my friends I'm like let's go and do this today they're like are you crazy my dad don't even think as a kid my dad was like is he really my son because I wouldn't do any of these things and even still today um I still find that he's actually done skydiving with my Dad yeah he said he would never do it but he did it so but driving 200 miles per hour is probably one of the scariest things that you do all the time like that's not for you anymore whatever things I've	yeah	8,6,9	0,0,0	8	6	9	0	0	0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyiWKXTd9aY	4,235	AyiWKXTd9aY	2023-01-23 00:00:00	I think the easiest thing in life is to give up on whatever you know whatever you're focused on or whatever you're hopeful for the hardest thing is to keep going but we have to like we have to continue to hold on and I would imagine for so many people out there that is probably the most difficult thing the best-selling author and host the number one Health and Wellness podcast on purpose with Jay Shetty hey everyone welcome back to on purpose the number one Health podcast in the world thanks to each and every one of you that come back every week to listen learn and grow now I know that our community is dedicated to living happier healthier and more healed lives and I love sitting down with people who are dedicated to their own happiness their own health their own healing and doing that for the world through their work and I have to be honest it's not every day that you get to sit down with someone you admire you're inspired by you look up to and someone who is truly the definition of the word goat uh I'm talking about the one and only sir Lewis Hamilton seven time Formula One World Champion someone with over a hundred race wins considered the most successful F1 driver of all time and Lewis's willingness to embrace what makes him different has defined his values and outlook on life and in 2014 those values saw him win BBC's Sports personality of the Year followed two years later by a position in Time magazine's 100 most influential people list Lewis received both accolades for a second time in 2020 in a year that saw him become a leading voice in the global fight for racial equality in doing so he was recognized as British gq's Game Changer of the year and Powerless most influential black person in the UK and further to this Lewis won the 2020 glorious Sportsman of the Year award and most notably was formally recognized with a Knighthood in 2020 New Year's honors for his outstanding achievements and contribution to Motorsports on the track and off the track Lewis is also passionate activists for so many underrepresented groups and communities his mission 44 is doing incredible work please welcome to on purpose Lewis Hamilton Lewis thank you for being here thank you so much for having me no this honestly is a special one for me it's been one of those ones that you know when I first launched the podcast there were a few names that I wanted to sit down with and you were one of those names so for me it's a very special moment and for this to be your first ever podcast which you just told me I didn't even know and you literally told me this like 10 minutes ago and in my head I'm thinking wow thank I I'm so grateful to have that honor honestly honest mine I'm really so grateful for everything you do and so I've been following and listening to you and you sent me the book a long time ago already so I really appreciate everything you're doing today oh well thank you man thank you and I'm excited to unpack your journey because as we said because it's your first podcast people have heard parts of you but but we don't really understand the depth and the texture of of Lewis Hamilton and so I guess I want to start in a in a different place and we'll we'll kind of go through on this journey I wanted to ask you what do you feel is the hardest thing you've had to do in order to be who you are today I think continuing to have the belief in myself and not letting that Veer off since I was young since I've been told from my teachers that I would never amount to nothing The Bullying or the things that you face at the adversity you face the discrimination and just continue to keep your head up continuing to to march on ahead uh towards your dream and never lose inside now I think that's definitely for sure the most difficult thing is keeping keeping your goal and your eyes set on that and not being distracted um not giving up I think the easiest thing in life is to give up on whatever you know whatever you're focused on or whatever you're hopeful for the hardest thing is to continue to keep going but we have to like we have to continue to hold on and I would imagine for so many people out there that is that it that is probably the most difficult thing yeah I think that's a great answer because I think people look at you and they assume that you never have to make that choice right they see someone in your position someone who's achieved what you've achieved and the Assumption can be oh yeah but he's the greatest he was he was just always that way and he doesn't have to make that choice every day but as you said since the beginning of your life whether it's childhood whether it's breaking into a sport that wasn't set up for you there have been so many moments let's let's go back to school let's talk about some of that more in depth because I feel like a lot of people struggle at school but you kind of went through a lot of altercations and adversities at that time what were some of the things you were hearing some of the bullying some of the racism the experiences that you had that felt limiting or made it feel like it was easier to give up I think for me I mean school was the most probably the most traumatizing and diff most difficult part of my life wow um I already was being bullied at the age of six um I think at the time that particular school I was probably one of three kids of color and just bigger stronger bullying kids were throwing me around a lot of the time I was always the last picked in the you know when you're standing playground in your uh in the line of when they're picking teams for football I was always the last one chosen or not even chosen even if I was better than somebody else um and then the the constant Jabs the things that are either thrown at you like bananas or people that would use the m word just so relaxed um people calling you half cast and you know just really not knowing where you fit in that for me was difficult when you then go into like history class and everything you learn in history there are no people of color in the history that they were teaching us so I was thinking oh well where are the people that look like me and I mean for me in my school there was only around I think there was around seven maybe six seven black kids out of 1200 kids and three of us were else put outside the headmaster's office all the time the Headmaster just had it out for for us and particularly for me I would say so like just juggling all these different emotions that you're feeling plus I struggled at school I didn't find out till I was 16 that I was dyslexic fortunately I came across a teacher that was actually caring and um took me down that road and helped me discover a little bit more about myself and how I can better myself through education but um I think that for me was that was tough also because I was racing every weekend I would leave on the Thursday night we would travel you know pack up the motorhome we'll travel around the country to race on the weekends and no one else knew when I'd got back to school every all the kids have done normal things on the weekend and I'll come back and say I'm I was racing and people would be like oh I've done that before you know like at this at the theme park or something but no one really knew what my goal was and could really they thought we would maybe it was a joke you missed a lot of that social interaction also I was putting all the lowest sets at school and told that if you do well you can progress and then never ever let me progress no matter how hard I tried um so I really felt that the system was really up against me and I was kind of swimming against the tide but I'm so grateful for that that Journey because that's what built me to the person that I am today but there were a lot of things that I suppressed because I I couldn't go home and say hey to my I didn't feel I could go home and talk to my parents that you know these kids kept calling me them where today I got bullied I got beaten up at school today or I you know I wasn't able to defend myself I didn't want my dad to think I was not strong and so I'll you know if I had tears I would hold them back if I had emotions it would be in a quiet place and um it wasn't really till I started racing that I was able to channel this emotion that I had into my driving and it's like when I put this helmet on Superman was my favorite I loved how he fought for the people and I loved how he did the right things and he was a really inspiring character for me but again no superhero was of color so you know but you can still aspire to be someone that's if they don't look like you you know um and so I remember going to karate I remember putting this helmet on in racing and it felt like it was my cloak you know my superpowers had come out when I was driving and I was battling with these kids and I was doing able to do things that they seemed to not be able to do as well and that was my love wow yeah I mean it's my mind was opposite I was bullied a lot at school as well I was one of five people of color in my primary school and I was also overweight and so I was bullied for that and obviously you know my parents are from Indian backgrounds and so they'd gone through it much worse than I did when when they'd moved to England but the difference was that I would go cry to my mum and then my mum would come try and save the day in school and that was the worst that was so embarrassing like your mum's they're telling the teacher what happened and then I'm like oh no Mom don't do this and then it's even more embarrassing because the kids pick on you going oh mum came to say oh yeah yeah Mommy's right yeah so that that was my version of it I wasn't scared of crying to my mum but then it had it had different things but yeah that that's so hard as a kid when you're going through that and you're trying to find yourself you're trying to figure out what confidence is you don't even know what that means you feel like not going to school but then even though you're saying you found it in racing I mean racing was similar because you were working class you're still to this day the only working-class black driver to do as successfully as you have so not only do you have it at school you also have it in your passion like in the thing that is your cloak is your Superman so how does it feel when you're also dealing with it in that area where you've discovered what your passion or your interest is at that age what does it feel like when you're getting in that space it's inescapable you know you use that as an escape but then you're confronted with it also and so I was just grateful that I had this amazing figure in my dad you know I got a you know my best one of my best friends like his dad was never there I know there's not many people that have separated parents and and being shared between parents is not an easy thing um you know some days with your mom and some days we did that my my mum was the soft loving parent so that's where I really I feel like I learned a lot of compassion and empathy that's where I feel like I get it from her and my dad was at that strong like kind of stronger Rock and also just someone that looked like me on and just he would say do you talking on the track don't be distracted by it don't listen to what they're saying do your driving on track and show let's just be quiet and walk away as well as you know um so but you know again like your parents my parents went through well particularly my dad was someone that also face adversity through his life and he's like I want to do everything in my power to create a better life for my kid so that I don't feel or experience the things that I have encountered and through my through my journey and so but I think for me it was also difficult having biracial you know I'm biracial so having a white mother mother for example and a black dad I knew my dad would understand the racial slurs that I surrounded me my mum couldn't understand it so I couldn't really speak to my mum about it she was loving but she's never been educated within it she didn't know anything about black history and slavery and so it was a very difficult but but I had love there which was the most important thing yeah um but in the racing it was like you know like kids you just want to enjoy yourself you want to be included and you know when you're kind of outcast a little bit it's um it's difficult for kids you know and so that's why today like I'm like if I'm posting something I hope that when I do click that button I hope that it is a positive wave for some of the kids out there that are being distracted by all the stuff that's going on around the world yeah I mean I was I was telling you earlier I was so grateful came out to watch you in Austin a couple of weeks ago and got to meet your dad and I heard you talk about your dad in that way before and so when I met him I was it was I was just you know it's nice to share that with him and I was just saying how beautiful it is to see your relationship and and how it's evolved it's always been that way yeah yeah that's what I thought yeah yeah to walk us through whatever you feel my dad has been like the leader in getting me you know he had four jobs at one stage just to keep us go-karting because when we all started gokind most of the people were majority of the people were from working class families um so but then there are of course a few wealthier kids that have slightly better access to equipment and um mechanics and all those sorts of things and my dad was my mechanic so it was just me and him on the road and and my stepmom Linda um she would be there supporting um making sure that we're fully clothed making sure that we we've eaten and we're hydrated all those sorts of things for the weekend prepare my kid um so it was very much a family outing it was a family kind of um family weekend we did it as a family um we've traveled together my little brother would be on the road with us as well who's a major inspiration you've definitely got to speak to me one day um born with Cerebral Palsy um when I was seven and is a speaker today so he's and racing he's done he's defined all the odds and wow uh even though he's seven years younger than me still very much an inspiration but the thing with my dad was he was maybe he was my manager all the way till I was like 20 I got to we got to phone one and he was he worked so hard his work ethic for me was that that's was inspiring for me seeing how hard he worked the time he gets up in the morning the little sleep that he would have end of his day in the garage working on the go-kart preparing for the weekend packing up the track and getting us to where we are mechanicing learning to be a better mechanic and and still weighing all these different things it was quite phenomenal to see um but I think it was difficult for him to then show me love and sometimes you just want to hug from your dad you know or when you're facing these things you want to be able to be embraced but um when I think I got to when I was 22 23 it got really intense when I got to form one because all of a sudden you're thrown into you go through karting and cars you don't go to school to to learn to speak to the media you're literally thrown into the pit and at the time I didn't have management other than my dad my stepmom were booked flights and trips but um I didn't have PR I didn't have anybody to help protect me or prepare me for things driving I was good I would say but in these things is where a lot of mistakes happened um you've got the the kind of all the media attention and you have to so you're just learning on the go which was very difficult for a youngster I think yeah absolutely and and also I just you wanted to try and live some sort of normal normal life but nothing's normal for you at the time and the thing for me and my dad were just we're really bumping his at one stage it's like I really just want you to be my dad so we can let's go and have fun let's go and have a laugh but we hadn't had that for a long time and so um eventually I decided to sit part ways for my dad and I was like I'm gonna start making some of the decisions for myself and the mistakes that I'm gonna need to make and there was definitely a period of time where we spoke less um but we both have worked so hard to come back together and we have one of the greatest you know he's the first person I want to call when I finish a race um because I know he knows what it's like he was there from day one and so you know he's been to the last two races with me he's probably gonna come to the next one there's days where I do feel like I'm not enough there's days where I don't feel like I'm good enough and people be like yeah but you've won seven World titles anyway yeah but still there's days where I question no you still got it you still are you can you still be the best yes you can and so I have to just always I'm having that conversation with myself often but my dad's also there sometimes I'll say something that's maybe not the most positive and he'll be the one there just reaffirming no you've got this believe in yourself and it's so important for people to have people like that around them and I support myself I surround myself with other positive people as well and we continue I think it's all our job to lift every as many you know everyone up right I want everyone around me to win and yeah um and to become the best versions of themselves so no thank you for sharing that as well thank you for opening up about that because yeah I think the relationships we have with our parents are just so significant when it comes to achievement and success and when you start doing sport at your level even at an early age wins and losses starts becoming so important so win and loss is important in everyone's life in the sense that everyone has it in exams in school and things like that which we'll talk about in a second as well but for you you're having a in a very over way like you have one two three and then you have everyone else and and how have you kind of worked with that since you're young because I can imagine that your psychology can become very much like if you win things are great if you lose things are bad how have you kind of processed that as time's gone on and was there a time when it was unhealthy and difficult and has it got better or is it something you're always working on so on one side of things you know I struggled at school as I said so the teachers would write these reports that I was not focused or I wasn't doing well and and I remember the fear of that report every year and I try so hard to do well and then these teachers I don't know if teachers out there realize when they write those reports what's happening back at home whether you have an abusive uh household or you know the the stress of that was was difficult I feel embracing if I if I would win I could see a smile on my dad's face and it was really like okay if I do well at this I know that I'll be accepted you know um but I go to work double hard to be I've got to always be first I always laugh about the whole if you're not first you last because I'm literally whilst that's obviously I've not been fresh my whole life first was everything yeah um in order to be accepted in order to fit in and maybe to be appreciated um not only in within my relationship perhaps with my dad but then also around my friends and it was until I got older I realized it's about the bigger picture but when you have success it's so short-lived it's like it really is really short-lived you win a race then you go back home and you have big as a racing driver you know the weekend's so intense you've seen it there's so much energy so much it's really really in a stressful environment for everyone that's working within it then you go home and there's a huge come down like one or two days later and you're trying to balance those emotions that emotional rollercoaster um and learning to kind of channel that and figure out ways to keep it balanced whether with your routine and those sorts of things has been really key for me but I think during the last couple of last few years really understanding that it's about the bigger picture um I'm fighting for something far greater than winning a race I'm really fighting for changing the world you know we're more divided than ever I would say it's devastating I can't watch the news it's devastating every there's so much happening but there are so many great people out there that are doing really great things and I want to be one of I want to be a part of that [Music] inspirational energy bubble that people like yourselves are a part of um because we want to we need to create a brighter future we need to create better Future Leaders look how many look how bad our leaders are that are in governments you know like we need to be as part of the next generation of thought leaders um that are positive and um yeah so that's what I'm trying to be a part of every day I'm so I'm really trying to focus on my intentions as you're talking about like setting your intentions each day um I'm trying to learn new tools that I didn't have when I was a kid I didn't I didn't know about yoga I didn't know about meditation um I didn't have podcasts to listen to good people to listen to and aspire to kind of help me put on the right path so yeah um yeah we've got a lot of work to do there's almost not enough time here on this planet right we're here for such a short time really in the Scale of the Universe yeah but I think you're one of those people that you know and that's when we first connected that was one of the biggest reasons for me that I saw you using your platform for a bigger purpose I was like oh that's fascinating like that's so interesting to me because that's a choice too I think today we kind of assume that if someone has a platform or if someone's you know number one in their field or if someone's got followers that they should talk about stuff we kind of assume that anyone who has followers should talk about stuff first of all I don't think that's the case I think a lot of people choose not to uh but but you were someone that stood out to me massively where I was just like wow this person's really not just winning on on the track but it's thinking about how winning on the track transfers to what you can do off the track because of the influence because of your network because of your impact and I find that to be really The Missing Link for so many people because I always say that your purpose is something not just that makes you happy it's when you use what makes you happy to serve other people like when you use it to impact other people's lives when did that drop for you like when did that click for you like were you ever I guess what I'm trying to say is there's a transition when you're saying that well you know winning like maybe get the nod from my dad and obviously I was bullied and then I'm winning but then I'm number one at something like was there a point at which number one didn't satisfy you or was there a point at which the success that came from it or or you didn't actually have to get dissatisfied you just found that there was a better way to be successful does that make sense the parv that was striking when you're just saying that for me it was like I feel like we often live in fear of what people think um how you're going to be judged how you're going to be received if you you're free outspoken you're going to lose your job you're going to be fired I've always been a outspoken person I think that's just been a quality I've never been a follower um I don't like to conform to how people expect what people of what people expect from you as I said I was having a success and I was like okay now I'm on I'm at the top what can I do with it yeah and there are so many causes there's so many problems out there and there's so many so many amazing causes and which one you know there's only one of you so like what where do you put the focus and that's take it took a long long time to really find what that was for me I think for me education was something that I felt extremely passionate about because I I've been out to India I'd been out into some of the really poorest places like Manila and seeing young kids who are like us but begging for food and not having the same opportunities and for me that was that broke my heart and realized how privileged we are and how fortunate we are it was like I want to be working with people out there that are trying to create more you know there's over 100 million kids that don't have access to school or education so how can I get involved in that so align yourself with people that do but I think I was I was winning and it was giving me that tip of happiness but then I would kind of drop back down to normality and there was something missing and it was that purpose really or understanding what that purpose was and understanding what why you've been put here why are you beginning the platform that you've that you've been given why were the only you know only people of color this whole time through it all and when I started speaking about um diversity people like oh you want to get more people of coloring as as racing drivers only 20 of us so as I know it's this forty thousand forty fifty thousand jobs there's thousands of engineering jobs in the background and there's such a lack of diversity coming through I want to be a part of Shifting that narrative and shifting that conversation and having people be question themselves and have those difficult conversations with with people so I first I just started by having those difficult conversations with my boss and one of the things he brings up that he said that hit him hard I said have you ever thought of as a white person walking into the paddock into the race weekend Paddock and being the only white person there he's like he's like I hadn't even thought of that I said well that's what it's like for someone like me when I'm in the room you noticed you noticed that out of 50 people in a meeting you're the only person the black person there and it's not because we are less is because there are these barriers within Society through education that are limiting people to be the best they can be so my job is to be empowering and improving representation I'm really really passionate like black Equity as well so that's why I got involved with the Denver Broncos Denver Broncos yeah yeah and usually when I'm in conversation with sponsors or companies I'm like hey so what it how diverse is your team what are you doing about diversity inclusion how are you creating a better work workspace for people that's what I want to be a part of I the success can come later and that's that would be along the way but if you're not asking those questions or you're not tackling those issues then we're not blind yeah and so all them pretty much every partner that we have we have a lot of Partners within our team I've asked these really difficult questions and they're like oh you know what but we can do more I'm like well let's do it you know yeah so I think I've grown very close with my like Mercedes-Benz and Gamma they've been so open that we changed the car from Silver to Black in 2020. and as again I said to them like the car's been silver forever it's always been silver arrows and I was like imagine if we change the card to Black well that could you know us turning up and arriving is how you show up and it's how you know imagine the message we can send and we had the black car for the whole year and we didn't even really talk much about it we just let it be and we went with it and that's when I won myself with that car so that's beautiful now that must have felt special it was honestly my whole life flashed by my not that last lap in Turkey my whole life like all the struggles the questioning whether you were going to make it or not just all those doubts all those fears kind of flash by Me by you know through my eyes and came across the line and I was like I did it and I wanted the kids out there to know that you can do it too you know um so that's what I try and like every day just try to be encouraging of kitchen yeah yeah do you sometimes feel that we were talking about this a bit earlier that you know in other sports we get to see the emotions and the expressions of players that we love or you know anyone who's on the court or the field of the pitch whereas with you because we don't get to see that in your eyes in your last lap like that we can only hear it today which is why I'm so grateful to have this moment because I obviously whenever whenever I'm sit down with someone who's a high performer like you it's obvious that there's so much emotion and preparation and power but with racing specifically you just don't get to see that do you sometimes feel that the only people that can truly relate to you are the people you compete with because I feel like it's like you said there's only 20 of you that are racing anyway it's lonely anyway 99 of people in the world have no idea what it feels like to drive a car as fast as you do and the way you do in in any comparison do you sometimes feel that the only people you can relate to are the people that are racing against you and then do you kind of feel is there a loneliness in that experience or is that kind of like a power in that as well definitely the other drivers I do feel that there's more we have a lot more in common than we think but we're so competitive and a lot of us have our defense like you want to beat the guy but then you like the guy you might like the person outside the car but you can't show that like there's this whole psychological battle you're having with yourself and getting away of yourself a lot of the time so I really feel like as an older driver I'm trying to be more like reaching out to youngsters and um because they're the future you know um and I'm excited to see some of these young drivers are coming through are so so talented I don't know if they've got the best structure around them like I mean like I didn't necessarily have the ultimate structure that I perhaps have now so just try to be a kind of a positive light to them but naturally none of them are black and none of them have necessarily faced the same as me but they've faced their own challenges and and things about respecting that with within everybody and I've tried to be create allies necessarily like in having the difficult conversations with some of them I mean I'm so grateful for I've had a couple of them it really took the knee with me in 2020 um just on that you know my dad was going back to the house with my dad my dad like never let me cry as a kid he said there's a sign of weakness like don't let me ever see you shed a tear so I remember just holding back through those difficult times as a kid holding back most of that stuff in 2020 I cried I hadn't cried for at least I think at least 10 years maybe more it was there was a lot of bottled up stuff that came up that I had not realized that didn't even know about suppressing a pain or a feeling so I remember kind of bending on my knees thinking no what has happened in the world I've got to I've got to be outspoken I've got to take that chance because if I don't do it then no one's gonna do it if I don't if I don't take the knee if I don't let people like me know that I care and I hear you and I'm I'm with you and I'm going to do something about it I'm going to risk it all I don't care if my partners want to drop me because I want to be associated with this narrative I don't I'm like and I literally let go of all the fear and that's why I went came so forward with it and I know it's not easy for everyone to do that um but I just want to really and try to encourage people out there too to be themselves to speak out if they've got a problem if they're seeing something within the work working environment or experiencing something you gotta be outspoken about it and there's a right way to do it the first day I was going to take the knee I remember I didn't feel like I could tell my team I was like because I know I felt that they wouldn't understand how important it is for me to do this this day so I remember I had my black lives matter a shirt hidden and I just wore it out there and I I went ahead within so no one knew no one knew but every uh the sport had built and made all these t-shirts like um we race as one yeah slogan and they gave these t-shirts to all the to everybody I was like I'm not wearing that that's not what this is about and so this is what I'm doing and this was around George Floyd right yeah and afterwards my team were like well why don't you if you just told us we could have prepared a bit over I had this fear that they would try and stop me perhaps but that was just a fear um they've been massively supportive through the whole thing My Hope was that you know kids would be watching me like what it what it what is that why is he taking me what what does that shirt mean what is going on Dad Mom and then the parents being in an awkward position having to explain it maybe but I think what was really encouraging for me I think when we started really getting into the whole diversity inclusion we did the research there was only three percent out of two thousand people in the team as three percent diversity so since then we've been on this Mission the team have started new projects we've discovered that the the sport generally hires from one group of universities which is not diverse and if there are any young black students that go there they're twice as unlikely to be hired when they come out compared to their counterparts and also paid less exercises all these things that perhaps people didn't know that's the Hamilton commission right yeah yeah and that just was interesting to to experience that and now now we're working on like a diversity Charter that all the teams have to be a part of and it's not mine it's for the sport and it's to encourage those teams because there's still not any diversity within you know if you look at Ferrari they don't have hardly any there's most teams don't um but when I go back to my team to the factory normally in our marketing department wasn't very diverse initially and I walked in after the pandemic and I started seeing such a more diverse group of people I was really quite emotional because I was like oh my God there's I'm starting to see change but you don't see that on TV yeah so when I talk to the to the bosses of the sport I'm like hey you know there's all white men facing oh and and me facing the camera at the start of the race where are the women where are the people of color we've got to be showing some young kids are watching and they're like oh there's a place for me there I can be there I can be an engineer I can be a mechanic or whatever it may be and even for young girls oh I can be a racing driver or an engineer a strategist or whatever you know so representation's so so key to inspiring the young youth especially in these industries that they already have less access to right like that's the point that it's not just it's not just representation because you want them to even have the opportunity it's the fact that there's just no access point which is what you're trying to create I think what's what I find really beautiful about you doing it is you're doing it though when you're like I'm having all my emotions come up at the same time as trying to be a voice for other people and when you're saying like I'm I'm taking a knee because I know I have to make a stand externally but internally you're taking a knee because so much of your own stuff from years ago is coming back up like that must be quite hard when you're that's that strikes me as something that's really inspiring about what you did is that you were going through your own healing at the same time as trying to do healing for the world there is so much healing to do right and I was completely oblivious to that I needed healing I needed to really peel back some of those layers um I think for people that turn into tune into a race and you mentioned earlier on but when you we arrive everything's set up We There is work that we're doing in the background naturally people don't see they just see a show but there is an unbelievable amount of work that goes on in the background um when I talk to people that talk about how much weight you lose they're like yeah you just sit in the car and you drive um there's this huge psychological and emotional roller coaster that you're going through that it would be really hard for people to comprehend and you would mention about all these other athletes you see their faces in other sports you can't see because we've got helmet on but you go through this roller coaster ride in the race and then you get out and they the camera's right in your face you're not prepared for that your emotions are shot particularly if you failed or feel like you failed and you don't always answer the right way if you wear your your heart on your sleeve people that don't necessarily like that necessary always people take advantage of that so then you build up all these protection mechanisms and mechanisms that's not necessarily you and at the core but won't be the safest thing for you you know what I mean like I read something the other day about it's like three steps of you and there's one the one of which you present your uh who you present there's you and your who you are to you and your family and friends and then there's one the part of you the real you that no one ever gets to see and I think just today in today's world it's so vicious on social media it's the media can be you know can really tell you apart and you build up you know like you you make a mistake in something you say in the media and your ridicule Feud you never do it again so you build up and you go more and more in your shell and you become harder for people to really relate to but I think for me what I've realized in these last few years is really peeling back those layers and you know letting people know that I grew up in a council state I you know I've lived on the sofa with my uh my my parents we've had those struggles um the successful people out there you see they too have had those things where we need to show that young kids who are going through that same thing that oh I can if he can get there or they can get there then it must be possible for me too yeah um and like being showing you about vulnerability that's something that I really struggled to to to do for a long long time and um like today that's something I think I'm a lot more open than I've ever ever been yeah I'm not living in fear every day and that's like the most that's the most important thing I think for me personally I'm living a much happier life because I'm I'm a lot more open yeah it's liberating yeah absolutely yeah it's liberating when you finally feel like you're not trapped or you're hiding held or yeah or hiding yeah or hiding my favorite quotes is from my Angelo when she says we are all powerful beyond measure and that really hit home also for me that that's my favorite quote because and I have a tattooed because really we are so we do limit ourselves we get in our own way right along with the other things that get in our way but a lot of our fear stops us from driving forwards from progressing and that's why like I do the craziest things I jump out of planes yeah you've done what 80 jumps yeah like just just I love challenging myself and doing things even though there's maybe fear there but overcoming that fear is like it's the best feeling when you overcome it and you realize that she was all just a bunch of nonsense in your head I want to encourage so all my friends I'm like let's go and do this today they're like are you crazy my dad don't even think as a kid my dad was like is he really my son because I wouldn't do any of these things and even still today um I still find that he's actually done skydiving with my Dad yeah he said he would never do it but he did it so but driving 200 miles per hour is probably one of the scariest things that you do all the time like that's not for you anymore whatever things I've never had that fear yeah uh as a kid and I was just never you know I think if you go on a ski slope and you see these kids coming by the kids are generally Fearless right yeah but think as you go get older yes you start you hurt yourself a little bit you start protecting yourself more and more but I just don't have that I think I feel like that was something that just wasn't necessarily put in me I'm terrified of spiders yeah that's the only thing but I'm doing 200 miles an hour that's actually when I'm most at peace I would say yeah it's like I'm like flowing it's like my that's my element and that's why I like I love doing what I do it could be really really hard when I start racing I've been doing for 30 years I'm 37 I've been racing 30 years and when you stop like what what's gonna match that nothing's gonna have a probably a match being in the stadium or being at the race and being at the Pinnacle the sport being at the front of the greater or coming through the grid that motion that I get there when I do stop that will be a there'll be a big hole Yeah so I'm trying to generally focus on things find things that are going to replace that that will also be just as rewarding and that's like Mission 44 for me meeting kids at schools having these conversations with families and parents who clearly you're going through difficult times and want to create the best opportunity for their kids encouraging them they're like okay I've been there too look where I got so you can get there it's just got to work through it that's for me the that's way more rewarding than winning the race yeah so much more yeah that's I'm so grateful and I'm so happy that everyone's gonna getting to hear this I felt you're the only and I know you know you're talking about when that happens but it's brilliant that you're planning already because you can see how so many athletes mentally when they know their career has somewhat of a shelf life or a somewhat of a time span like it's so hot it's it just completely wrote but I remember you're reminding me of when I had the fortune of sitting down with Kobe Bryant and I said sat down with him when he'd already retired wow and I interviewed him oh so great I'm so jealous he was one of those people that was not upset being retired he loved it because he knew that his mission for him was to make these short movies and make all these uh Sports based content to inspire kids to tell their stories and to help them find better stories and so it's exactly what you're saying where he wasn't he's one of those people that I've met he was not sad about he was so happy he was so pumped that's what I'm working towards yeah because he he knew that he had a mission and he had a purpose and he'd gone and won an Oscar for a short movie that he'd made and you know he was creating content to inspire kids and that's where his heart was and of course watching his daughters play and so I'm super inspired by him yeah I know but yeah like when you said that that's what I remembered and and he was in the same boat he was like I always wanted to script right and never had time to script right he said I was always playing basketball and he goes but then I started script writing and I got a coach and then I was writing and getting better as a writer that's what I think when I've spoken to other athletes we focused so much on that being the best you can be and that one thing that the other things that you also love like if it's playing an instrument or if it's writing scripts like it all falls everything falls away and yeah um how can you come compartmentalize staying in the in the zone in the focus Lane but also building up some of those other skills and discovering other passions you know people's we've heard people tell LeBron shut up and dribble like yeah that's there there's a lot of people put you in the box and say this you can only do one thing but as I've seen and spoken to some people that are active and retired a lot of them say when particularly when they retire that they everything kind of fell apart like everything fell to the ground they had nothing to back it up with and they hadn't discovered what they're doing next so then they go through this emotional Journey um of of Discovery but it takes time so I'm like trying to learn from those things and applying them and find the other things that I'm passionate about so I generally feel today that I have lots of things in the pipeline that when I do stop it's gonna be like so grateful but I have something better that I'm moving on to yeah um but I I have no doubts that I oh me and my dad will always have to go to the go-kart track or something you know I'm always going to be competitive yeah I can't that's literally a strain in My DNA that's just never gonna gonna shift I'm competitive at everything I'm happy to hear that it's it's it's I'm sure that's refreshing it's great for people to also hear that even to inspire young people or Inspire anyone who's gone to a place in their career where they know that there's a certain moment where things are going to wind down but then they're going to transition I think I don't think we celebrate the transitions enough in life and life is made up of transition absolutely and people think that it's maybe less or something but it's yeah it's it's not about that yeah exactly so it's fascinating you found that what are some of these like you said like um you know I've been doing jumps I've been doing this with my friends what are some of the routines that you put into place to help you manage your mindset because I feel like you're you said that being at 200 miles per hour for the duration of a race is like being in flow for you that means you're extremely comfortable with your own thoughts extremely comfortable with being in a high stress high pressure environment but being just with your own self talk to us about how you I mean it sounds like that's always been the case but what have you done to become more and more comfortable with that yeah I think naturally this is the natural ability right but um I've been out of focus for an hour and 45 minutes without making mistakes and that's that's literally insane it's unbelievable dealing with the pressures um a friend actually asked me last night because I talk about we lose a lot of race a lot of weight in the race yes like sometimes you can lose up to 10 pounds like four kilos and people like whoa I need to be particularly in America they're like oh I need to be a racing driver um for the weight loss but this question is my friend asked me the other day that's like where does the where does the weight go like yeah because my suit doesn't because afterwards I weigh less but the I'm like so it must evaporate you somewhere so I've never got to figure out where all that weight actually truly goes because it obviously isn't in sweat but that's like messed my mind about um but the suit definitely is obviously a little bit heavier but um it's about gaining tools and I think as when I was younger I didn't have I knew how to arrive at the race I channeled the so this emotion that I had through whatever those difficulties were into my driving so it's laser focused like if you watch a video for me when I was five years old on Blue Pizza you'll see I'm just laser focused but um being able to control emotions being out to be calm and present staying centered there are loads of obviously different methods that people can use so things that I try to that I've started to incorporate over the years more in my life is things like stretching things like yoga and meditation has been a real that for me was something that I never thought that that I kind of turned a blind eye to it when I was younger I thought that's not gonna be helpful but being able to be sit still for a second and listen to the noises around you um and understand you want to tap into that kind of in a child or whatever it may be that's for me been taking that moment for yourself each day treating yourself with love and being kind to yourself you know because I think for a long time I wasn't kind to myself and that's been a process uh doing things that being purposeful and and having real certain intentions each day no matter how big or small and you know I wake up I'm looking in the mirror brushing your teeth then stop for a second sake this today's gonna be the day today's gonna be great um and no matter what you're faced with you know just whatever you come out with yeah yeah talking to yourself also speaking to people I think is very important I think as a kid as I said I didn't feel like I could speak to people I didn't feel like I could tell my mom about these experiences I felt embarrassed I couldn't tell my dad so I thought he would fulfill think less of me I couldn't talk to any of the teachers couldn't tell my most my friends most of them uh weren't particularly of color so but finding learning to be open and speak to people or find someone to speak to whether it's a therapist or whatever that's that's been a huge um help um I don't not necessarily have a therapist especially someone that I'm able to then just have shoot a with basically yeah um and confide in and Trust like trust has been something that I've never had done didn't trust anybody through those experiments I had as a kid and it's been very very hard to build trust with people but creating allies finding things that are that you have in common with people like my boss for example him and I just breaking each other down and then just having realizing that was similar in many many ways but also very different but that's not what should divide us we can then be allies and so that's why we're working on being the most diverse team we're working on pushing we have we've studied ignite which is about getting you know improving that pipeline of into motorsport for people um from underserved communities and there's so much work to do you're doing it though man I'm trying to I'm trying to and you know to the point you were asking earlier like has has enough been done absolutely not in the industry yes and like you don't feel that yeah and it's not only in either industry it's everywhere and is that your goal to sort in the industry and then expand out or you're starting you're starting across the board anyway yeah yeah that well with the team with where it's we started an organization which called ignite which we both fund and that is focused on the sport Motorsport in general but Mission 44 is focused on a much you know societal challenges and barriers and and education and um that's a focused in the UK at the moment but I want to bring that over to the states absolutely man um you know hopefully by at least 2024 um also just been to Africa and there is so much Beauty there and I really really want to have an imp you know really want to help there as well so yeah um we will continue to expand but we're one of the one of the few black founding non-profit organizations in UK and with um black CEO for example a very diverse group of people um and just having those conversations with people of just what a diverse Workforce means and how that bet can benefit you when you have people from different backgrounds all coming up with a diverse diverse thought and creation it's that's how you have more success yeah it's a no it's a no-brainer when you hear it and you're just like wow that makes so much sense and creativity is better and you you'd be able to come up with far more innovative ideas and you've got so many more cultures now being celebrated involved and I I feel like it's it's interesting to me that the world hasn't caught on with that yet like it's it's interesting that even despite there being progress there's not enough progress but what what is the block like what is the stop is it a mindset is it just habits and laziness like what is the actual like if you got to the core of it from everyone you've been speaking to like what are you what is the issue is the issue that yeah is the issue just laziness and just oh this is the way things have always been or is it or is there actually like a setup I don't have the answer to it I I ask that question all the time and I come up with lots of different theories in my mind um sometimes I'm like maybe people don't just don't care maybe people's problems are so big that they don't have time to focus on other things and it's hard enough just to do the thing that you're focused on or just overcoming the issue that you're overcoming so how am I gonna have more time to yeah to speak about these things why should I take the risk and risk my next step and so I feel like it's about learning to be selfless right and um which is difficult to do if you're not being loving yourself and not in a good place yeah so I think it all comes to us at hopefully a time at a certain point in our lives um but also you know we live in a time where like social media is so it's such a dangerous it's such a powerful tool but it's also can be so dangerous and so dividing and I see people out there today and there's people that I admire that I'm that that I would follow and I'd be like how they projecting something that's not necessarily healthy for you for people out there how are they projecting they're not using this platform to be more inspirational or be more positive and there's others that are but then I don't you can't judge because that's their Journey well you can continue to do is try to you know with that Maya Angelou quote it's about being shining your light as bright as you can possibly get it and hope that by doing it you I think you automatically uh encourage the people around you to want to do the same and I never truly understood that until I see the team that I work with how we all Inspire each other how with this year for example we've had the you know 2022 has been one of the hardest years for us as a team um as we didn't build a great car and we had our struggles as many people do and how we've had to all come closer and the relationship I've had with people that I've worked with this team for 10 years and there's conversations we've had this year people have opened up like they've never opened up before people have cried like it's been it's been beautiful to see yeah I feel like with some a far better team than we've ever been before because we're living with intention we're actually talking about impact that everyone in the team's gone and had diversity inclusion training no one's been kind of like I'm not I'm not going through that class why do I have to go and learn with diversity and inclusions about it I'm and why it doesn't impact me you know people like I understand it doesn't I wouldn't necessarily notice it but I want to understand it more so I can be better in my working environment it's been unbelievable that's amazing also leaders within our sport are now now where we are on a road to being a more diverse and more inclusive sport but I think my job is to continuously make sure that it that that same the effort that we're putting in now doesn't kind of fall away and become kind of you know just because it was um trending yeah yeah yeah that is actually something that's on the top of the list sustainability is on the top of our list and that real true core values we don't go out of our way well you know because a lot of people it's very easy to kind of be led by the money success but making sure you stick to your core values it's so true so important it goes back to what you said though that that's what real leaders do like leaders don't follow what's trending like leaders have focused on transformation and then they're dedicated to transformation and they're going to keep doing it until they see a change whereas followers follow Trends and oh it's not trending now it doesn't matter we'll focus on something else but you know obviously it's so clear just listening to you today and it's amazing Because unless I'm so glad I've had this opportunity to talk to you because I can hear just how deeply dedicated you are to this and how it's at your core it's like it's everything that comes out of your pores today is just you know which is which is really special to see a value being embodied like to empower other people you have to embody the value first it doesn't just you don't just go around empowering people and so to hear how your soul and heart is like completely a sponge for this stuff and then to wanting to go and share it with the world it's really remarkable man ah thank you yeah well I mean it's I've I'm by far perfect no yeah I know and I think that's like it's not about being perfect it's about just every day one step at a time trying to be better trying to do more yeah and um learning a lot about myself I've had to break myself down in order to be able to be better and what do you mean by breaking yourself down uh well just when you when I told you about like all those barriers you put up over time to protect yourself and then kind of like knocking those barriers down yes and it's enabled me to connect with more people it's enabled me to realize my place in the world and I don't feel like I don't belong anymore I feel like uh you know I've got a place and I've got a purpose and that's and I think a lot of people are struggling to find that purpose but it's okay you'll you will find it do not give up keep getting up you know like just keep saying those things to yourself and you will eventually find it and you know you're already living in your purpose and having such a huge impact on so many people you know telling stories which uh is it's amazing to see um I started this production company inspired by like Kobe and so many out there but stories for me storytelling I watch a lot of movies I don't know about you but yeah I love movies especially Sports movies yeah like when I go home I'll like I you know order takeaway or make myself some pasta or something like that and then I put the plate in front of me and I can't eat till I found something to watch like my my Escape is watching a movie and I always like to find something hopefully inspiring yes but what the reason I created this um production company is because you know until recently we didn't have any people of color are superheroes We I think these stories storytelling is so so important for people out there for inspiring people and and I want to make sure that in and everything that I do every project that I work on is with a diverse Workforce like I'm doing this from one movie with um Brad Pitt and Joe kazinski and um but my job is to make sure that it's diverse behind the camera as it is on screen the story is empowering and uplifting um it's not there's no BS in terms of the racing and hopefully one kid will watch it and yeah or more and feel empowered to go and do something great absolutely I love that man I'm so glad you're doing that because when you said do I like movies the movie that came to my mind was uh race have you seen race because yeah so like that the story is unbelievable but when you watch the movie as well it's unbelievable to see what Jesse Owens did like to think that he had to go I can't even imagine I can't you know you just can't imagine if everyone's not seen the movie you have to go see them yeah it's just one of those movies that's like how do you do that like how do you go and race in Nazi Germany like I have like I must have been terrified terrifying and you know there's been so many great stories like that that are out there that need telling yeah um continuously telling yeah 42 is another one yeah 42 is awesome um but yeah there is these really unique people out there I think for me being in this sport being the only one and being the first is that is that has been lonely yeah and that has been really really a difficult thing to kind of understand and and um through my life I know many many people like Jesse for example being the first and only at the time you know I've taken huge inspiration from him Nelson Mandela was like ah he's just one of my biggest biggest Inspirations um I was so so fortunate to get to meet him when I was I was like 23 or something oh wow what was that like yeah ah it was mind-blowing I mean when you when you then I got to form one and you have the success all these things come and you don't even you've dreamed of being a racing driver but you didn't dream that all the other things of all the other things that come along like meeting other unbelievable people I went to Nelson Mandela's 90th birthday in London and I was sat on his table in this huge room full of like Bill Clinton was there like uh Denzel Washington was there open Winfrey sat right next to me like all these people that you would never ever in the million years dream of think you would ever get to meet yeah and then you discover and they're also just human beings with feelings and with emotions and with their own challenges but I was so young at the time it was it was I don't even recognize myself when I look back at me seven years ago I see a shell of me and I think I look today and see myself and know myself so much more um and that's again that's an empowering experience to be in but yeah I went into the room and met him and he sat at his chair and it was like walking into I was like God or like a king you know and his silk shirt was his Aura was something you could see his Aura his smile he was beaming that was the most probably the most impactful day for me um as a youngster wow Lewis it's unbelievable talking to you I mean what you've achieved on the track off the track and now I'm even more excited to see you continue to achieve uh as your journey continues because I'm going to say this and I don't say this often and I genuinely my team can vouch for and everyone else can listen back to any episode I think you're one of the most on-purpose people I've ever interviewed and I appreciate that no and I genuinely like it just there's nothing else that comes from your being apart from what your purpose currently is with Mission 44 and and it's it's really remarkable to meet someone who's so on purpose I don't I genuinely don't have that experience and the only person you reminded me of was Kobe he had it too when I was around him there was no there's nothing else it wasn't like he missed anything he was at peace he was it was peace with purpose you know and you have that same Aura and spirit from from at least my experience thank you so much it's so kind of you yeah and I really mean that I really mean that it's incredible so uh we we end every episode with a Fast Five which means every question has to be answered in one word to one sentence maximum okay and we ask these same questions to every guest that's ever been on the show I should be prepared for that because I've seen you so well no the the first question is what's the best advice you've ever heard or received I think it was the achieve my dad uh never give up that's been like the slogan in the back of my mind every single day the other one would be um just that you'll always be learning and that's what I learned from Nelson Mandela he was like I'm 19 and I'm still learning today and like I was like what can you tell me it's like I'm still learning today and it's okay to be learning you're always going to be learning something new and growing yourself wow that's beautiful very like wow but like guys that was pretty basic but no but it's not it's it's powerful knowing he said that yeah as in the fact that he said that on his 90th birthday that is powerful because it's a long way to go yeah and it's like a lot of people I feel like a lot of people feel by 90 especially him he has so much wisdom to share yeah but the fact that his wisdom was I'm just learning that yeah I'm still learning that's pretty cool all right second question uh what's the worst advice you ever heard or received give up it's just the opposite yeah yeah literally the worst bit of advice and it wasn't I mean it wasn't necessarily advice but I when I was younger there was other parents of other racing drivers I was racing against I remember this one guy and he's like she just you just don't have it you should just give up their parents were saying their parents the grown man in these 40s or 50s told me that and I was eight told you told me yeah to my face and I remember just being so like what am I supposed to do with that what do you mean give up what was the reason I would imagine because I was beating his kid maybe I don't know I never really thought of what the reason would be and the same with teachers you know yeah what is this crap you know you're terrible at this you'll never know go to the next set you're never gonna amount to anything why are you even here I had a parent I had a teacher tell me that and wow it broke me down so much question number three uh how do you deal with loss and how do you deal with the win I think success is as I mentioned earlier short-lived success is there's a lot less learn in succ	meeting kids at schools having these conversations with families and parents who clearly you're going through difficult times and want to create the best opportunity for their kids encouraging them they're like okay I've been there too look where I got so you can get there it's just got to work through it that's for me the that's way more rewarding than winning the race yeah so much more yeah that's I'm so grateful and I'm so happy that everyone's gonna getting to hear this I felt you're the only and I know you know you're talking about when that happens but it's brilliant that you're planning already because you can see how so many athletes mentally when they know their career has somewhat of a shelf life or a somewhat of a time span like it's so hot it's it just completely wrote but I remember you're reminding me of when I had the fortune of sitting down with Kobe Bryant and I said sat down with him when he'd already retired wow and I interviewed him oh so great I'm so jealous he was one of those people that was not upset being retired he loved it because he knew that his mission for him was to make these short movies and make all these uh Sports based content to inspire kids to tell their stories and to help them find better stories and so it's exactly what you're saying where he wasn't he's one of those people	8	6	8	meeting kids at schools having these conversations with families and parents who clearly you're going through difficult times and want to create the best opportunity for their kids encouraging them they're like okay I've been there too look where I got so you can get there it's just got to work through it that's for me the that's way more rewarding than winning the race yeah so much more yeah that's I'm so grateful and I'm so happy that everyone's gonna getting to hear this	I felt you're the only and I know you know you're talking about when that happens but it's brilliant that you're planning already because you can see how so many athletes mentally when they know their career has somewhat of a shelf life or a somewhat of a time span like it's so hot it's it just completely wrote but I remember you're reminding me of when I had the fortune of sitting down with Kobe Bryant and I said sat down with him when he'd already retired wow and I interviewed him oh so great I'm so jealous he was one of those people that was not upset being retired he loved it because he knew that his mission for him was to make these short movies and make all these uh Sports based content to inspire kids to tell their stories and to help them find better stories and so it's exactly what you're saying where he wasn't he's one of those people	8,4,8	6,5,6	8	4	8	6	5	6
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyiWKXTd9aY	4,235	AyiWKXTd9aY	2023-01-23 00:00:00	I think the easiest thing in life is to give up on whatever you know whatever you're focused on or whatever you're hopeful for the hardest thing is to keep going but we have to like we have to continue to hold on and I would imagine for so many people out there that is probably the most difficult thing the best-selling author and host the number one Health and Wellness podcast on purpose with Jay Shetty hey everyone welcome back to on purpose the number one Health podcast in the world thanks to each and every one of you that come back every week to listen learn and grow now I know that our community is dedicated to living happier healthier and more healed lives and I love sitting down with people who are dedicated to their own happiness their own health their own healing and doing that for the world through their work and I have to be honest it's not every day that you get to sit down with someone you admire you're inspired by you look up to and someone who is truly the definition of the word goat uh I'm talking about the one and only sir Lewis Hamilton seven time Formula One World Champion someone with over a hundred race wins considered the most successful F1 driver of all time and Lewis's willingness to embrace what makes him different has defined his values and outlook on life and in 2014 those values saw him win BBC's Sports personality of the Year followed two years later by a position in Time magazine's 100 most influential people list Lewis received both accolades for a second time in 2020 in a year that saw him become a leading voice in the global fight for racial equality in doing so he was recognized as British gq's Game Changer of the year and Powerless most influential black person in the UK and further to this Lewis won the 2020 glorious Sportsman of the Year award and most notably was formally recognized with a Knighthood in 2020 New Year's honors for his outstanding achievements and contribution to Motorsports on the track and off the track Lewis is also passionate activists for so many underrepresented groups and communities his mission 44 is doing incredible work please welcome to on purpose Lewis Hamilton Lewis thank you for being here thank you so much for having me no this honestly is a special one for me it's been one of those ones that you know when I first launched the podcast there were a few names that I wanted to sit down with and you were one of those names so for me it's a very special moment and for this to be your first ever podcast which you just told me I didn't even know and you literally told me this like 10 minutes ago and in my head I'm thinking wow thank I I'm so grateful to have that honor honestly honest mine I'm really so grateful for everything you do and so I've been following and listening to you and you sent me the book a long time ago already so I really appreciate everything you're doing today oh well thank you man thank you and I'm excited to unpack your journey because as we said because it's your first podcast people have heard parts of you but but we don't really understand the depth and the texture of of Lewis Hamilton and so I guess I want to start in a in a different place and we'll we'll kind of go through on this journey I wanted to ask you what do you feel is the hardest thing you've had to do in order to be who you are today I think continuing to have the belief in myself and not letting that Veer off since I was young since I've been told from my teachers that I would never amount to nothing The Bullying or the things that you face at the adversity you face the discrimination and just continue to keep your head up continuing to to march on ahead uh towards your dream and never lose inside now I think that's definitely for sure the most difficult thing is keeping keeping your goal and your eyes set on that and not being distracted um not giving up I think the easiest thing in life is to give up on whatever you know whatever you're focused on or whatever you're hopeful for the hardest thing is to continue to keep going but we have to like we have to continue to hold on and I would imagine for so many people out there that is that it that is probably the most difficult thing yeah I think that's a great answer because I think people look at you and they assume that you never have to make that choice right they see someone in your position someone who's achieved what you've achieved and the Assumption can be oh yeah but he's the greatest he was he was just always that way and he doesn't have to make that choice every day but as you said since the beginning of your life whether it's childhood whether it's breaking into a sport that wasn't set up for you there have been so many moments let's let's go back to school let's talk about some of that more in depth because I feel like a lot of people struggle at school but you kind of went through a lot of altercations and adversities at that time what were some of the things you were hearing some of the bullying some of the racism the experiences that you had that felt limiting or made it feel like it was easier to give up I think for me I mean school was the most probably the most traumatizing and diff most difficult part of my life wow um I already was being bullied at the age of six um I think at the time that particular school I was probably one of three kids of color and just bigger stronger bullying kids were throwing me around a lot of the time I was always the last picked in the you know when you're standing playground in your uh in the line of when they're picking teams for football I was always the last one chosen or not even chosen even if I was better than somebody else um and then the the constant Jabs the things that are either thrown at you like bananas or people that would use the m word just so relaxed um people calling you half cast and you know just really not knowing where you fit in that for me was difficult when you then go into like history class and everything you learn in history there are no people of color in the history that they were teaching us so I was thinking oh well where are the people that look like me and I mean for me in my school there was only around I think there was around seven maybe six seven black kids out of 1200 kids and three of us were else put outside the headmaster's office all the time the Headmaster just had it out for for us and particularly for me I would say so like just juggling all these different emotions that you're feeling plus I struggled at school I didn't find out till I was 16 that I was dyslexic fortunately I came across a teacher that was actually caring and um took me down that road and helped me discover a little bit more about myself and how I can better myself through education but um I think that for me was that was tough also because I was racing every weekend I would leave on the Thursday night we would travel you know pack up the motorhome we'll travel around the country to race on the weekends and no one else knew when I'd got back to school every all the kids have done normal things on the weekend and I'll come back and say I'm I was racing and people would be like oh I've done that before you know like at this at the theme park or something but no one really knew what my goal was and could really they thought we would maybe it was a joke you missed a lot of that social interaction also I was putting all the lowest sets at school and told that if you do well you can progress and then never ever let me progress no matter how hard I tried um so I really felt that the system was really up against me and I was kind of swimming against the tide but I'm so grateful for that that Journey because that's what built me to the person that I am today but there were a lot of things that I suppressed because I I couldn't go home and say hey to my I didn't feel I could go home and talk to my parents that you know these kids kept calling me them where today I got bullied I got beaten up at school today or I you know I wasn't able to defend myself I didn't want my dad to think I was not strong and so I'll you know if I had tears I would hold them back if I had emotions it would be in a quiet place and um it wasn't really till I started racing that I was able to channel this emotion that I had into my driving and it's like when I put this helmet on Superman was my favorite I loved how he fought for the people and I loved how he did the right things and he was a really inspiring character for me but again no superhero was of color so you know but you can still aspire to be someone that's if they don't look like you you know um and so I remember going to karate I remember putting this helmet on in racing and it felt like it was my cloak you know my superpowers had come out when I was driving and I was battling with these kids and I was doing able to do things that they seemed to not be able to do as well and that was my love wow yeah I mean it's my mind was opposite I was bullied a lot at school as well I was one of five people of color in my primary school and I was also overweight and so I was bullied for that and obviously you know my parents are from Indian backgrounds and so they'd gone through it much worse than I did when when they'd moved to England but the difference was that I would go cry to my mum and then my mum would come try and save the day in school and that was the worst that was so embarrassing like your mum's they're telling the teacher what happened and then I'm like oh no Mom don't do this and then it's even more embarrassing because the kids pick on you going oh mum came to say oh yeah yeah Mommy's right yeah so that that was my version of it I wasn't scared of crying to my mum but then it had it had different things but yeah that that's so hard as a kid when you're going through that and you're trying to find yourself you're trying to figure out what confidence is you don't even know what that means you feel like not going to school but then even though you're saying you found it in racing I mean racing was similar because you were working class you're still to this day the only working-class black driver to do as successfully as you have so not only do you have it at school you also have it in your passion like in the thing that is your cloak is your Superman so how does it feel when you're also dealing with it in that area where you've discovered what your passion or your interest is at that age what does it feel like when you're getting in that space it's inescapable you know you use that as an escape but then you're confronted with it also and so I was just grateful that I had this amazing figure in my dad you know I got a you know my best one of my best friends like his dad was never there I know there's not many people that have separated parents and and being shared between parents is not an easy thing um you know some days with your mom and some days we did that my my mum was the soft loving parent so that's where I really I feel like I learned a lot of compassion and empathy that's where I feel like I get it from her and my dad was at that strong like kind of stronger Rock and also just someone that looked like me on and just he would say do you talking on the track don't be distracted by it don't listen to what they're saying do your driving on track and show let's just be quiet and walk away as well as you know um so but you know again like your parents my parents went through well particularly my dad was someone that also face adversity through his life and he's like I want to do everything in my power to create a better life for my kid so that I don't feel or experience the things that I have encountered and through my through my journey and so but I think for me it was also difficult having biracial you know I'm biracial so having a white mother mother for example and a black dad I knew my dad would understand the racial slurs that I surrounded me my mum couldn't understand it so I couldn't really speak to my mum about it she was loving but she's never been educated within it she didn't know anything about black history and slavery and so it was a very difficult but but I had love there which was the most important thing yeah um but in the racing it was like you know like kids you just want to enjoy yourself you want to be included and you know when you're kind of outcast a little bit it's um it's difficult for kids you know and so that's why today like I'm like if I'm posting something I hope that when I do click that button I hope that it is a positive wave for some of the kids out there that are being distracted by all the stuff that's going on around the world yeah I mean I was I was telling you earlier I was so grateful came out to watch you in Austin a couple of weeks ago and got to meet your dad and I heard you talk about your dad in that way before and so when I met him I was it was I was just you know it's nice to share that with him and I was just saying how beautiful it is to see your relationship and and how it's evolved it's always been that way yeah yeah that's what I thought yeah yeah to walk us through whatever you feel my dad has been like the leader in getting me you know he had four jobs at one stage just to keep us go-karting because when we all started gokind most of the people were majority of the people were from working class families um so but then there are of course a few wealthier kids that have slightly better access to equipment and um mechanics and all those sorts of things and my dad was my mechanic so it was just me and him on the road and and my stepmom Linda um she would be there supporting um making sure that we're fully clothed making sure that we we've eaten and we're hydrated all those sorts of things for the weekend prepare my kid um so it was very much a family outing it was a family kind of um family weekend we did it as a family um we've traveled together my little brother would be on the road with us as well who's a major inspiration you've definitely got to speak to me one day um born with Cerebral Palsy um when I was seven and is a speaker today so he's and racing he's done he's defined all the odds and wow uh even though he's seven years younger than me still very much an inspiration but the thing with my dad was he was maybe he was my manager all the way till I was like 20 I got to we got to phone one and he was he worked so hard his work ethic for me was that that's was inspiring for me seeing how hard he worked the time he gets up in the morning the little sleep that he would have end of his day in the garage working on the go-kart preparing for the weekend packing up the track and getting us to where we are mechanicing learning to be a better mechanic and and still weighing all these different things it was quite phenomenal to see um but I think it was difficult for him to then show me love and sometimes you just want to hug from your dad you know or when you're facing these things you want to be able to be embraced but um when I think I got to when I was 22 23 it got really intense when I got to form one because all of a sudden you're thrown into you go through karting and cars you don't go to school to to learn to speak to the media you're literally thrown into the pit and at the time I didn't have management other than my dad my stepmom were booked flights and trips but um I didn't have PR I didn't have anybody to help protect me or prepare me for things driving I was good I would say but in these things is where a lot of mistakes happened um you've got the the kind of all the media attention and you have to so you're just learning on the go which was very difficult for a youngster I think yeah absolutely and and also I just you wanted to try and live some sort of normal normal life but nothing's normal for you at the time and the thing for me and my dad were just we're really bumping his at one stage it's like I really just want you to be my dad so we can let's go and have fun let's go and have a laugh but we hadn't had that for a long time and so um eventually I decided to sit part ways for my dad and I was like I'm gonna start making some of the decisions for myself and the mistakes that I'm gonna need to make and there was definitely a period of time where we spoke less um but we both have worked so hard to come back together and we have one of the greatest you know he's the first person I want to call when I finish a race um because I know he knows what it's like he was there from day one and so you know he's been to the last two races with me he's probably gonna come to the next one there's days where I do feel like I'm not enough there's days where I don't feel like I'm good enough and people be like yeah but you've won seven World titles anyway yeah but still there's days where I question no you still got it you still are you can you still be the best yes you can and so I have to just always I'm having that conversation with myself often but my dad's also there sometimes I'll say something that's maybe not the most positive and he'll be the one there just reaffirming no you've got this believe in yourself and it's so important for people to have people like that around them and I support myself I surround myself with other positive people as well and we continue I think it's all our job to lift every as many you know everyone up right I want everyone around me to win and yeah um and to become the best versions of themselves so no thank you for sharing that as well thank you for opening up about that because yeah I think the relationships we have with our parents are just so significant when it comes to achievement and success and when you start doing sport at your level even at an early age wins and losses starts becoming so important so win and loss is important in everyone's life in the sense that everyone has it in exams in school and things like that which we'll talk about in a second as well but for you you're having a in a very over way like you have one two three and then you have everyone else and and how have you kind of worked with that since you're young because I can imagine that your psychology can become very much like if you win things are great if you lose things are bad how have you kind of processed that as time's gone on and was there a time when it was unhealthy and difficult and has it got better or is it something you're always working on so on one side of things you know I struggled at school as I said so the teachers would write these reports that I was not focused or I wasn't doing well and and I remember the fear of that report every year and I try so hard to do well and then these teachers I don't know if teachers out there realize when they write those reports what's happening back at home whether you have an abusive uh household or you know the the stress of that was was difficult I feel embracing if I if I would win I could see a smile on my dad's face and it was really like okay if I do well at this I know that I'll be accepted you know um but I go to work double hard to be I've got to always be first I always laugh about the whole if you're not first you last because I'm literally whilst that's obviously I've not been fresh my whole life first was everything yeah um in order to be accepted in order to fit in and maybe to be appreciated um not only in within my relationship perhaps with my dad but then also around my friends and it was until I got older I realized it's about the bigger picture but when you have success it's so short-lived it's like it really is really short-lived you win a race then you go back home and you have big as a racing driver you know the weekend's so intense you've seen it there's so much energy so much it's really really in a stressful environment for everyone that's working within it then you go home and there's a huge come down like one or two days later and you're trying to balance those emotions that emotional rollercoaster um and learning to kind of channel that and figure out ways to keep it balanced whether with your routine and those sorts of things has been really key for me but I think during the last couple of last few years really understanding that it's about the bigger picture um I'm fighting for something far greater than winning a race I'm really fighting for changing the world you know we're more divided than ever I would say it's devastating I can't watch the news it's devastating every there's so much happening but there are so many great people out there that are doing really great things and I want to be one of I want to be a part of that [Music] inspirational energy bubble that people like yourselves are a part of um because we want to we need to create a brighter future we need to create better Future Leaders look how many look how bad our leaders are that are in governments you know like we need to be as part of the next generation of thought leaders um that are positive and um yeah so that's what I'm trying to be a part of every day I'm so I'm really trying to focus on my intentions as you're talking about like setting your intentions each day um I'm trying to learn new tools that I didn't have when I was a kid I didn't I didn't know about yoga I didn't know about meditation um I didn't have podcasts to listen to good people to listen to and aspire to kind of help me put on the right path so yeah um yeah we've got a lot of work to do there's almost not enough time here on this planet right we're here for such a short time really in the Scale of the Universe yeah but I think you're one of those people that you know and that's when we first connected that was one of the biggest reasons for me that I saw you using your platform for a bigger purpose I was like oh that's fascinating like that's so interesting to me because that's a choice too I think today we kind of assume that if someone has a platform or if someone's you know number one in their field or if someone's got followers that they should talk about stuff we kind of assume that anyone who has followers should talk about stuff first of all I don't think that's the case I think a lot of people choose not to uh but but you were someone that stood out to me massively where I was just like wow this person's really not just winning on on the track but it's thinking about how winning on the track transfers to what you can do off the track because of the influence because of your network because of your impact and I find that to be really The Missing Link for so many people because I always say that your purpose is something not just that makes you happy it's when you use what makes you happy to serve other people like when you use it to impact other people's lives when did that drop for you like when did that click for you like were you ever I guess what I'm trying to say is there's a transition when you're saying that well you know winning like maybe get the nod from my dad and obviously I was bullied and then I'm winning but then I'm number one at something like was there a point at which number one didn't satisfy you or was there a point at which the success that came from it or or you didn't actually have to get dissatisfied you just found that there was a better way to be successful does that make sense the parv that was striking when you're just saying that for me it was like I feel like we often live in fear of what people think um how you're going to be judged how you're going to be received if you you're free outspoken you're going to lose your job you're going to be fired I've always been a outspoken person I think that's just been a quality I've never been a follower um I don't like to conform to how people expect what people of what people expect from you as I said I was having a success and I was like okay now I'm on I'm at the top what can I do with it yeah and there are so many causes there's so many problems out there and there's so many so many amazing causes and which one you know there's only one of you so like what where do you put the focus and that's take it took a long long time to really find what that was for me I think for me education was something that I felt extremely passionate about because I I've been out to India I'd been out into some of the really poorest places like Manila and seeing young kids who are like us but begging for food and not having the same opportunities and for me that was that broke my heart and realized how privileged we are and how fortunate we are it was like I want to be working with people out there that are trying to create more you know there's over 100 million kids that don't have access to school or education so how can I get involved in that so align yourself with people that do but I think I was I was winning and it was giving me that tip of happiness but then I would kind of drop back down to normality and there was something missing and it was that purpose really or understanding what that purpose was and understanding what why you've been put here why are you beginning the platform that you've that you've been given why were the only you know only people of color this whole time through it all and when I started speaking about um diversity people like oh you want to get more people of coloring as as racing drivers only 20 of us so as I know it's this forty thousand forty fifty thousand jobs there's thousands of engineering jobs in the background and there's such a lack of diversity coming through I want to be a part of Shifting that narrative and shifting that conversation and having people be question themselves and have those difficult conversations with with people so I first I just started by having those difficult conversations with my boss and one of the things he brings up that he said that hit him hard I said have you ever thought of as a white person walking into the paddock into the race weekend Paddock and being the only white person there he's like he's like I hadn't even thought of that I said well that's what it's like for someone like me when I'm in the room you noticed you noticed that out of 50 people in a meeting you're the only person the black person there and it's not because we are less is because there are these barriers within Society through education that are limiting people to be the best they can be so my job is to be empowering and improving representation I'm really really passionate like black Equity as well so that's why I got involved with the Denver Broncos Denver Broncos yeah yeah and usually when I'm in conversation with sponsors or companies I'm like hey so what it how diverse is your team what are you doing about diversity inclusion how are you creating a better work workspace for people that's what I want to be a part of I the success can come later and that's that would be along the way but if you're not asking those questions or you're not tackling those issues then we're not blind yeah and so all them pretty much every partner that we have we have a lot of Partners within our team I've asked these really difficult questions and they're like oh you know what but we can do more I'm like well let's do it you know yeah so I think I've grown very close with my like Mercedes-Benz and Gamma they've been so open that we changed the car from Silver to Black in 2020. and as again I said to them like the car's been silver forever it's always been silver arrows and I was like imagine if we change the card to Black well that could you know us turning up and arriving is how you show up and it's how you know imagine the message we can send and we had the black car for the whole year and we didn't even really talk much about it we just let it be and we went with it and that's when I won myself with that car so that's beautiful now that must have felt special it was honestly my whole life flashed by my not that last lap in Turkey my whole life like all the struggles the questioning whether you were going to make it or not just all those doubts all those fears kind of flash by Me by you know through my eyes and came across the line and I was like I did it and I wanted the kids out there to know that you can do it too you know um so that's what I try and like every day just try to be encouraging of kitchen yeah yeah do you sometimes feel that we were talking about this a bit earlier that you know in other sports we get to see the emotions and the expressions of players that we love or you know anyone who's on the court or the field of the pitch whereas with you because we don't get to see that in your eyes in your last lap like that we can only hear it today which is why I'm so grateful to have this moment because I obviously whenever whenever I'm sit down with someone who's a high performer like you it's obvious that there's so much emotion and preparation and power but with racing specifically you just don't get to see that do you sometimes feel that the only people that can truly relate to you are the people you compete with because I feel like it's like you said there's only 20 of you that are racing anyway it's lonely anyway 99 of people in the world have no idea what it feels like to drive a car as fast as you do and the way you do in in any comparison do you sometimes feel that the only people you can relate to are the people that are racing against you and then do you kind of feel is there a loneliness in that experience or is that kind of like a power in that as well definitely the other drivers I do feel that there's more we have a lot more in common than we think but we're so competitive and a lot of us have our defense like you want to beat the guy but then you like the guy you might like the person outside the car but you can't show that like there's this whole psychological battle you're having with yourself and getting away of yourself a lot of the time so I really feel like as an older driver I'm trying to be more like reaching out to youngsters and um because they're the future you know um and I'm excited to see some of these young drivers are coming through are so so talented I don't know if they've got the best structure around them like I mean like I didn't necessarily have the ultimate structure that I perhaps have now so just try to be a kind of a positive light to them but naturally none of them are black and none of them have necessarily faced the same as me but they've faced their own challenges and and things about respecting that with within everybody and I've tried to be create allies necessarily like in having the difficult conversations with some of them I mean I'm so grateful for I've had a couple of them it really took the knee with me in 2020 um just on that you know my dad was going back to the house with my dad my dad like never let me cry as a kid he said there's a sign of weakness like don't let me ever see you shed a tear so I remember just holding back through those difficult times as a kid holding back most of that stuff in 2020 I cried I hadn't cried for at least I think at least 10 years maybe more it was there was a lot of bottled up stuff that came up that I had not realized that didn't even know about suppressing a pain or a feeling so I remember kind of bending on my knees thinking no what has happened in the world I've got to I've got to be outspoken I've got to take that chance because if I don't do it then no one's gonna do it if I don't if I don't take the knee if I don't let people like me know that I care and I hear you and I'm I'm with you and I'm going to do something about it I'm going to risk it all I don't care if my partners want to drop me because I want to be associated with this narrative I don't I'm like and I literally let go of all the fear and that's why I went came so forward with it and I know it's not easy for everyone to do that um but I just want to really and try to encourage people out there too to be themselves to speak out if they've got a problem if they're seeing something within the work working environment or experiencing something you gotta be outspoken about it and there's a right way to do it the first day I was going to take the knee I remember I didn't feel like I could tell my team I was like because I know I felt that they wouldn't understand how important it is for me to do this this day so I remember I had my black lives matter a shirt hidden and I just wore it out there and I I went ahead within so no one knew no one knew but every uh the sport had built and made all these t-shirts like um we race as one yeah slogan and they gave these t-shirts to all the to everybody I was like I'm not wearing that that's not what this is about and so this is what I'm doing and this was around George Floyd right yeah and afterwards my team were like well why don't you if you just told us we could have prepared a bit over I had this fear that they would try and stop me perhaps but that was just a fear um they've been massively supportive through the whole thing My Hope was that you know kids would be watching me like what it what it what is that why is he taking me what what does that shirt mean what is going on Dad Mom and then the parents being in an awkward position having to explain it maybe but I think what was really encouraging for me I think when we started really getting into the whole diversity inclusion we did the research there was only three percent out of two thousand people in the team as three percent diversity so since then we've been on this Mission the team have started new projects we've discovered that the the sport generally hires from one group of universities which is not diverse and if there are any young black students that go there they're twice as unlikely to be hired when they come out compared to their counterparts and also paid less exercises all these things that perhaps people didn't know that's the Hamilton commission right yeah yeah and that just was interesting to to experience that and now now we're working on like a diversity Charter that all the teams have to be a part of and it's not mine it's for the sport and it's to encourage those teams because there's still not any diversity within you know if you look at Ferrari they don't have hardly any there's most teams don't um but when I go back to my team to the factory normally in our marketing department wasn't very diverse initially and I walked in after the pandemic and I started seeing such a more diverse group of people I was really quite emotional because I was like oh my God there's I'm starting to see change but you don't see that on TV yeah so when I talk to the to the bosses of the sport I'm like hey you know there's all white men facing oh and and me facing the camera at the start of the race where are the women where are the people of color we've got to be showing some young kids are watching and they're like oh there's a place for me there I can be there I can be an engineer I can be a mechanic or whatever it may be and even for young girls oh I can be a racing driver or an engineer a strategist or whatever you know so representation's so so key to inspiring the young youth especially in these industries that they already have less access to right like that's the point that it's not just it's not just representation because you want them to even have the opportunity it's the fact that there's just no access point which is what you're trying to create I think what's what I find really beautiful about you doing it is you're doing it though when you're like I'm having all my emotions come up at the same time as trying to be a voice for other people and when you're saying like I'm I'm taking a knee because I know I have to make a stand externally but internally you're taking a knee because so much of your own stuff from years ago is coming back up like that must be quite hard when you're that's that strikes me as something that's really inspiring about what you did is that you were going through your own healing at the same time as trying to do healing for the world there is so much healing to do right and I was completely oblivious to that I needed healing I needed to really peel back some of those layers um I think for people that turn into tune into a race and you mentioned earlier on but when you we arrive everything's set up We There is work that we're doing in the background naturally people don't see they just see a show but there is an unbelievable amount of work that goes on in the background um when I talk to people that talk about how much weight you lose they're like yeah you just sit in the car and you drive um there's this huge psychological and emotional roller coaster that you're going through that it would be really hard for people to comprehend and you would mention about all these other athletes you see their faces in other sports you can't see because we've got helmet on but you go through this roller coaster ride in the race and then you get out and they the camera's right in your face you're not prepared for that your emotions are shot particularly if you failed or feel like you failed and you don't always answer the right way if you wear your your heart on your sleeve people that don't necessarily like that necessary always people take advantage of that so then you build up all these protection mechanisms and mechanisms that's not necessarily you and at the core but won't be the safest thing for you you know what I mean like I read something the other day about it's like three steps of you and there's one the one of which you present your uh who you present there's you and your who you are to you and your family and friends and then there's one the part of you the real you that no one ever gets to see and I think just today in today's world it's so vicious on social media it's the media can be you know can really tell you apart and you build up you know like you you make a mistake in something you say in the media and your ridicule Feud you never do it again so you build up and you go more and more in your shell and you become harder for people to really relate to but I think for me what I've realized in these last few years is really peeling back those layers and you know letting people know that I grew up in a council state I you know I've lived on the sofa with my uh my my parents we've had those struggles um the successful people out there you see they too have had those things where we need to show that young kids who are going through that same thing that oh I can if he can get there or they can get there then it must be possible for me too yeah um and like being showing you about vulnerability that's something that I really struggled to to to do for a long long time and um like today that's something I think I'm a lot more open than I've ever ever been yeah I'm not living in fear every day and that's like the most that's the most important thing I think for me personally I'm living a much happier life because I'm I'm a lot more open yeah it's liberating yeah absolutely yeah it's liberating when you finally feel like you're not trapped or you're hiding held or yeah or hiding yeah or hiding my favorite quotes is from my Angelo when she says we are all powerful beyond measure and that really hit home also for me that that's my favorite quote because and I have a tattooed because really we are so we do limit ourselves we get in our own way right along with the other things that get in our way but a lot of our fear stops us from driving forwards from progressing and that's why like I do the craziest things I jump out of planes yeah you've done what 80 jumps yeah like just just I love challenging myself and doing things even though there's maybe fear there but overcoming that fear is like it's the best feeling when you overcome it and you realize that she was all just a bunch of nonsense in your head I want to encourage so all my friends I'm like let's go and do this today they're like are you crazy my dad don't even think as a kid my dad was like is he really my son because I wouldn't do any of these things and even still today um I still find that he's actually done skydiving with my Dad yeah he said he would never do it but he did it so but driving 200 miles per hour is probably one of the scariest things that you do all the time like that's not for you anymore whatever things I've never had that fear yeah uh as a kid and I was just never you know I think if you go on a ski slope and you see these kids coming by the kids are generally Fearless right yeah but think as you go get older yes you start you hurt yourself a little bit you start protecting yourself more and more but I just don't have that I think I feel like that was something that just wasn't necessarily put in me I'm terrified of spiders yeah that's the only thing but I'm doing 200 miles an hour that's actually when I'm most at peace I would say yeah it's like I'm like flowing it's like my that's my element and that's why I like I love doing what I do it could be really really hard when I start racing I've been doing for 30 years I'm 37 I've been racing 30 years and when you stop like what what's gonna match that nothing's gonna have a probably a match being in the stadium or being at the race and being at the Pinnacle the sport being at the front of the greater or coming through the grid that motion that I get there when I do stop that will be a there'll be a big hole Yeah so I'm trying to generally focus on things find things that are going to replace that that will also be just as rewarding and that's like Mission 44 for me meeting kids at schools having these conversations with families and parents who clearly you're going through difficult times and want to create the best opportunity for their kids encouraging them they're like okay I've been there too look where I got so you can get there it's just got to work through it that's for me the that's way more rewarding than winning the race yeah so much more yeah that's I'm so grateful and I'm so happy that everyone's gonna getting to hear this I felt you're the only and I know you know you're talking about when that happens but it's brilliant that you're planning already because you can see how so many athletes mentally when they know their career has somewhat of a shelf life or a somewhat of a time span like it's so hot it's it just completely wrote but I remember you're reminding me of when I had the fortune of sitting down with Kobe Bryant and I said sat down with him when he'd already retired wow and I interviewed him oh so great I'm so jealous he was one of those people that was not upset being retired he loved it because he knew that his mission for him was to make these short movies and make all these uh Sports based content to inspire kids to tell their stories and to help them find better stories and so it's exactly what you're saying where he wasn't he's one of those people that I've met he was not sad about he was so happy he was so pumped that's what I'm working towards yeah because he he knew that he had a mission and he had a purpose and he'd gone and won an Oscar for a short movie that he'd made and you know he was creating content to inspire kids and that's where his heart was and of course watching his daughters play and so I'm super inspired by him yeah I know but yeah like when you said that that's what I remembered and and he was in the same boat he was like I always wanted to script right and never had time to script right he said I was always playing basketball and he goes but then I started script writing and I got a coach and then I was writing and getting better as a writer that's what I think when I've spoken to other athletes we focused so much on that being the best you can be and that one thing that the other things that you also love like if it's playing an instrument or if it's writing scripts like it all falls everything falls away and yeah um how can you come compartmentalize staying in the in the zone in the focus Lane but also building up some of those other skills and discovering other passions you know people's we've heard people tell LeBron shut up and dribble like yeah that's there there's a lot of people put you in the box and say this you can only do one thing but as I've seen and spoken to some people that are active and retired a lot of them say when particularly when they retire that they everything kind of fell apart like everything fell to the ground they had nothing to back it up with and they hadn't discovered what they're doing next so then they go through this emotional Journey um of of Discovery but it takes time so I'm like trying to learn from those things and applying them and find the other things that I'm passionate about so I generally feel today that I have lots of things in the pipeline that when I do stop it's gonna be like so grateful but I have something better that I'm moving on to yeah um but I I have no doubts that I oh me and my dad will always have to go to the go-kart track or something you know I'm always going to be competitive yeah I can't that's literally a strain in My DNA that's just never gonna gonna shift I'm competitive at everything I'm happy to hear that it's it's it's I'm sure that's refreshing it's great for people to also hear that even to inspire young people or Inspire anyone who's gone to a place in their career where they know that there's a certain moment where things are going to wind down but then they're going to transition I think I don't think we celebrate the transitions enough in life and life is made up of transition absolutely and people think that it's maybe less or something but it's yeah it's it's not about that yeah exactly so it's fascinating you found that what are some of these like you said like um you know I've been doing jumps I've been doing this with my friends what are some of the routines that you put into place to help you manage your mindset because I feel like you're you said that being at 200 miles per hour for the duration of a race is like being in flow for you that means you're extremely comfortable with your own thoughts extremely comfortable with being in a high stress high pressure environment but being just with your own self talk to us about how you I mean it sounds like that's always been the case but what have you done to become more and more comfortable with that yeah I think naturally this is the natural ability right but um I've been out of focus for an hour and 45 minutes without making mistakes and that's that's literally insane it's unbelievable dealing with the pressures um a friend actually asked me last night because I talk about we lose a lot of race a lot of weight in the race yes like sometimes you can lose up to 10 pounds like four kilos and people like whoa I need to be particularly in America they're like oh I need to be a racing driver um for the weight loss but this question is my friend asked me the other day that's like where does the where does the weight go like yeah because my suit doesn't because afterwards I weigh less but the I'm like so it must evaporate you somewhere so I've never got to figure out where all that weight actually truly goes because it obviously isn't in sweat but that's like messed my mind about um but the suit definitely is obviously a little bit heavier but um it's about gaining tools and I think as when I was younger I didn't have I knew how to arrive at the race I channeled the so this emotion that I had through whatever those difficulties were into my driving so it's laser focused like if you watch a video for me when I was five years old on Blue Pizza you'll see I'm just laser focused but um being able to control emotions being out to be calm and present staying centered there are loads of obviously different methods that people can use so things that I try to that I've started to incorporate over the years more in my life is things like stretching things like yoga and meditation has been a real that for me was something that I never thought that that I kind of turned a blind eye to it when I was younger I thought that's not gonna be helpful but being able to be sit still for a second and listen to the noises around you um and understand you want to tap into that kind of in a child or whatever it may be that's for me been taking that moment for yourself each day treating yourself with love and being kind to yourself you know because I think for a long time I wasn't kind to myself and that's been a process uh doing things that being purposeful and and having real certain intentions each day no matter how big or small and you know I wake up I'm looking in the mirror brushing your teeth then stop for a second sake this today's gonna be the day today's gonna be great um and no matter what you're faced with you know just whatever you come out with yeah yeah talking to yourself also speaking to people I think is very important I think as a kid as I said I didn't feel like I could speak to people I didn't feel like I could tell my mom about these experiences I felt embarrassed I couldn't tell my dad so I thought he would fulfill think less of me I couldn't talk to any of the teachers couldn't tell my most my friends most of them uh weren't particularly of color so but finding learning to be open and speak to people or find someone to speak to whether it's a therapist or whatever that's that's been a huge um help um I don't not necessarily have a therapist especially someone that I'm able to then just have shoot a with basically yeah um and confide in and Trust like trust has been something that I've never had done didn't trust anybody through those experiments I had as a kid and it's been very very hard to build trust with people but creating allies finding things that are that you have in common with people like my boss for example him and I just breaking each other down and then just having realizing that was similar in many many ways but also very different but that's not what should divide us we can then be allies and so that's why we're working on being the most diverse team we're working on pushing we have we've studied ignite which is about getting you know improving that pipeline of into motorsport for people um from underserved communities and there's so much work to do you're doing it though man I'm trying to I'm trying to and you know to the point you were asking earlier like has has enough been done absolutely not in the industry yes and like you don't feel that yeah and it's not only in either industry it's everywhere and is that your goal to sort in the industry and then expand out or you're starting you're starting across the board anyway yeah yeah that well with the team with where it's we started an organization which called ignite which we both fund and that is focused on the sport Motorsport in general but Mission 44 is focused on a much you know societal challenges and barriers and and education and um that's a focused in the UK at the moment but I want to bring that over to the states absolutely man um you know hopefully by at least 2024 um also just been to Africa and there is so much Beauty there and I really really want to have an imp you know really want to help there as well so yeah um we will continue to expand but we're one of the one of the few black founding non-profit organizations in UK and with um black CEO for example a very diverse group of people um and just having those conversations with people of just what a diverse Workforce means and how that bet can benefit you when you have people from different backgrounds all coming up with a diverse diverse thought and creation it's that's how you have more success yeah it's a no it's a no-brainer when you hear it and you're just like wow that makes so much sense and creativity is better and you you'd be able to come up with far more innovative ideas and you've got so many more cultures now being celebrated involved and I I feel like it's it's interesting to me that the world hasn't caught on with that yet like it's it's interesting that even despite there being progress there's not enough progress but what what is the block like what is the stop is it a mindset is it just habits and laziness like what is the actual like if you got to the core of it from everyone you've been speaking to like what are you what is the issue is the issue that yeah is the issue just laziness and just oh this is the way things have always been or is it or is there actually like a setup I don't have the answer to it I I ask that question all the time and I come up with lots of different theories in my mind um sometimes I'm like maybe people don't just don't care maybe people's problems are so big that they don't have time to focus on other things and it's hard enough just to do the thing that you're focused on or just overcoming the issue that you're overcoming so how am I gonna have more time to yeah to speak about these things why should I take the risk and risk my next step and so I feel like it's about learning to be selfless right and um which is difficult to do if you're not being loving yourself and not in a good place yeah so I think it all comes to us at hopefully a time at a certain point in our lives um but also you know we live in a time where like social media is so it's such a dangerous it's such a powerful tool but it's also can be so dangerous and so dividing and I see people out there today and there's people that I admire that I'm that that I would follow and I'd be like how they projecting something that's not necessarily healthy for you for people out there how are they projecting they're not using this platform to be more inspirational or be more positive and there's others that are but then I don't you can't judge because that's their Journey well you can continue to do is try to you know with that Maya Angelou quote it's about being shining your light as bright as you can possibly get it and hope that by doing it you I think you automatically uh encourage the people around you to want to do the same and I never truly understood that until I see the team that I work with how we all Inspire each other how with this year for example we've had the you know 2022 has been one of the hardest years for us as a team um as we didn't build a great car and we had our struggles as many people do and how we've had to all come closer and the relationship I've had with people that I've worked with this team for 10 years and there's conversations we've had this year people have opened up like they've never opened up before people have cried like it's been it's been beautiful to see yeah I feel like with some a far better team than we've ever been before because we're living with intention we're actually talking about impact that everyone in the team's gone and had diversity inclusion training no one's been kind of like I'm not I'm not going through that class why do I have to go and learn with diversity and inclusions about it I'm and why it doesn't impact me you know people like I understand it doesn't I wouldn't necessarily notice it but I want to understand it more so I can be better in my working environment it's been unbelievable that's amazing also leaders within our sport are now now where we are on a road to being a more diverse and more inclusive sport but I think my job is to continuously make sure that it that that same the effort that we're putting in now doesn't kind of fall away and become kind of you know just because it was um trending yeah yeah yeah that is actually something that's on the top of the list sustainability is on the top of our list and that real true core values we don't go out of our way well you know because a lot of people it's very easy to kind of be led by the money success but making sure you stick to your core values it's so true so important it goes back to what you said though that that's what real leaders do like leaders don't follow what's trending like leaders have focused on transformation and then they're dedicated to transformation and they're going to keep doing it until they see a change whereas followers follow Trends and oh it's not trending now it doesn't matter we'll focus on something else but you know obviously it's so clear just listening to you today and it's amazing Because unless I'm so glad I've had this opportunity to talk to you because I can hear just how deeply dedicated you are to this and how it's at your core it's like it's everything that comes out of your pores today is just you know which is which is really special to see a value being embodied like to empower other people you have to embody the value first it doesn't just you don't just go around empowering people and so to hear how your soul and heart is like completely a sponge for this stuff and then to wanting to go and share it with the world it's really remarkable man ah thank you yeah well I mean it's I've I'm by far perfect no yeah I know and I think that's like it's not about being perfect it's about just every day one step at a time trying to be better trying to do more yeah and um learning a lot about myself I've had to break myself down in order to be able to be better and what do you mean by breaking yourself down uh well just when you when I told you about like all those barriers you put up over time to protect yourself and then kind of like knocking those barriers down yes and it's enabled me to connect with more people it's enabled me to realize my place in the world and I don't feel like I don't belong anymore I feel like uh you know I've got a place and I've got a purpose and that's and I think a lot of people are struggling to find that purpose but it's okay you'll you will find it do not give up keep getting up you know like just keep saying those things to yourself and you will eventually find it and you know you're already living in your purpose and having such a huge impact on so many people you know telling stories which uh is it's amazing to see um I started this production company inspired by like Kobe and so many out there but stories for me storytelling I watch a lot of movies I don't know about you but yeah I love movies especially Sports movies yeah like when I go home I'll like I you know order takeaway or make myself some pasta or something like that and then I put the plate in front of me and I can't eat till I found something to watch like my my Escape is watching a movie and I always like to find something hopefully inspiring yes but what the reason I created this um production company is because you know until recently we didn't have any people of color are superheroes We I think these stories storytelling is so so important for people out there for inspiring people and and I want to make sure that in and everything that I do every project that I work on is with a diverse Workforce like I'm doing this from one movie with um Brad Pitt and Joe kazinski and um but my job is to make sure that it's diverse behind the camera as it is on screen the story is empowering and uplifting um it's not there's no BS in terms of the racing and hopefully one kid will watch it and yeah or more and feel empowered to go and do something great absolutely I love that man I'm so glad you're doing that because when you said do I like movies the movie that came to my mind was uh race have you seen race because yeah so like that the story is unbelievable but when you watch the movie as well it's unbelievable to see what Jesse Owens did like to think that he had to go I can't even imagine I can't you know you just can't imagine if everyone's not seen the movie you have to go see them yeah it's just one of those movies that's like how do you do that like how do you go and race in Nazi Germany like I have like I must have been terrified terrifying and you know there's been so many great stories like that that are out there that need telling yeah um continuously telling yeah 42 is another one yeah 42 is awesome um but yeah there is these really unique people out there I think for me being in this sport being the only one and being the first is that is that has been lonely yeah and that has been really really a difficult thing to kind of understand and and um through my life I know many many people like Jesse for example being the first and only at the time you know I've taken huge inspiration from him Nelson Mandela was like ah he's just one of my biggest biggest Inspirations um I was so so fortunate to get to meet him when I was I was like 23 or something oh wow what was that like yeah ah it was mind-blowing I mean when you when you then I got to form one and you have the success all these things come and you don't even you've dreamed of being a racing driver but you didn't dream that all the other things of all the other things that come along like meeting other unbelievable people I went to Nelson Mandela's 90th birthday in London and I was sat on his table in this huge room full of like Bill Clinton was there like uh Denzel Washington was there open Winfrey sat right next to me like all these people that you would never ever in the million years dream of think you would ever get to meet yeah and then you discover and they're also just human beings with feelings and with emotions and with their own challenges but I was so young at the time it was it was I don't even recognize myself when I look back at me seven years ago I see a shell of me and I think I look today and see myself and know myself so much more um and that's again that's an empowering experience to be in but yeah I went into the room and met him and he sat at his chair and it was like walking into I was like God or like a king you know and his silk shirt was his Aura was something you could see his Aura his smile he was beaming that was the most probably the most impactful day for me um as a youngster wow Lewis it's unbelievable talking to you I mean what you've achieved on the track off the track and now I'm even more excited to see you continue to achieve uh as your journey continues because I'm going to say this and I don't say this often and I genuinely my team can vouch for and everyone else can listen back to any episode I think you're one of the most on-purpose people I've ever interviewed and I appreciate that no and I genuinely like it just there's nothing else that comes from your being apart from what your purpose currently is with Mission 44 and and it's it's really remarkable to meet someone who's so on purpose I don't I genuinely don't have that experience and the only person you reminded me of was Kobe he had it too when I was around him there was no there's nothing else it wasn't like he missed anything he was at peace he was it was peace with purpose you know and you have that same Aura and spirit from from at least my experience thank you so much it's so kind of you yeah and I really mean that I really mean that it's incredible so uh we we end every episode with a Fast Five which means every question has to be answered in one word to one sentence maximum okay and we ask these same questions to every guest that's ever been on the show I should be prepared for that because I've seen you so well no the the first question is what's the best advice you've ever heard or received I think it was the achieve my dad uh never give up that's been like the slogan in the back of my mind every single day the other one would be um just that you'll always be learning and that's what I learned from Nelson Mandela he was like I'm 19 and I'm still learning today and like I was like what can you tell me it's like I'm still learning today and it's okay to be learning you're always going to be learning something new and growing yourself wow that's beautiful very like wow but like guys that was pretty basic but no but it's not it's it's powerful knowing he said that yeah as in the fact that he said that on his 90th birthday that is powerful because it's a long way to go yeah and it's like a lot of people I feel like a lot of people feel by 90 especially him he has so much wisdom to share yeah but the fact that his wisdom was I'm just learning that yeah I'm still learning that's pretty cool all right second question uh what's the worst advice you ever heard or received give up it's just the opposite yeah yeah literally the worst bit of advice and it wasn't I mean it wasn't necessarily advice but I when I was younger there was other parents of other racing drivers I was racing against I remember this one guy and he's like she just you just don't have it you should just give up their parents were saying their parents the grown man in these 40s or 50s told me that and I was eight told you told me yeah to my face and I remember just being so like what am I supposed to do with that what do you mean give up what was the reason I would imagine because I was beating his kid maybe I don't know I never really thought of what the reason would be and the same with teachers you know yeah what is this crap you know you're terrible at this you'll never know go to the next set you're never gonna amount to anything why are you even here I had a parent I had a teacher tell me that and wow it broke me down so much question number three uh how do you deal with loss and how do you deal with the win I think success is as I mentioned earlier short-lived success is there's a lot less learn in succ	that I've met he was not sad about he was so happy he was so pumped that's what I'm working towards yeah because he he knew that he had a mission and he had a purpose and he'd gone and won an Oscar for a short movie that he'd made and you know he was creating content to inspire kids and that's where his heart was and of course watching his daughters play and so I'm super inspired by him yeah I know but yeah like when you said that that's what I remembered and and he was in the same boat he was like I always wanted to script right and never had time to script right he said I was always playing basketball and he goes but then I started script writing and I got a coach and then I was writing and getting better as a writer that's what I think when I've spoken to other athletes we focused so much on that being the best you can be and that one thing that the other things that you also love like if it's playing an instrument or if it's writing scripts like it all falls everything falls away and yeah um how can you come compartmentalize staying in the in the zone in the focus Lane but also building up some of those other skills and discovering other passions you know people's we've heard people tell LeBron shut up and dribble like yeah that's there there's	8	6	4	that I've met he was not sad about he was so happy he was so pumped that's what I'm working towards yeah because he he knew that he had a mission and he had a purpose and he'd gone and won an Oscar for a short movie that he'd made and you know he was creating content to inspire kids and that's where his heart was and of course watching his daughters play and so I'm super inspired by him yeah	when you said that that's what I remembered and and he was in the same boat he was like I always wanted to script right and never had time to script right he said I was always playing basketball and he goes but then I started script writing and I got a coach and then I was writing and getting better as a writer	8,6,8	5,4,6	8	6	8	5	4	6
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyiWKXTd9aY	4,235	AyiWKXTd9aY	2023-01-23 00:00:00	I think the easiest thing in life is to give up on whatever you know whatever you're focused on or whatever you're hopeful for the hardest thing is to keep going but we have to like we have to continue to hold on and I would imagine for so many people out there that is probably the most difficult thing the best-selling author and host the number one Health and Wellness podcast on purpose with Jay Shetty hey everyone welcome back to on purpose the number one Health podcast in the world thanks to each and every one of you that come back every week to listen learn and grow now I know that our community is dedicated to living happier healthier and more healed lives and I love sitting down with people who are dedicated to their own happiness their own health their own healing and doing that for the world through their work and I have to be honest it's not every day that you get to sit down with someone you admire you're inspired by you look up to and someone who is truly the definition of the word goat uh I'm talking about the one and only sir Lewis Hamilton seven time Formula One World Champion someone with over a hundred race wins considered the most successful F1 driver of all time and Lewis's willingness to embrace what makes him different has defined his values and outlook on life and in 2014 those values saw him win BBC's Sports personality of the Year followed two years later by a position in Time magazine's 100 most influential people list Lewis received both accolades for a second time in 2020 in a year that saw him become a leading voice in the global fight for racial equality in doing so he was recognized as British gq's Game Changer of the year and Powerless most influential black person in the UK and further to this Lewis won the 2020 glorious Sportsman of the Year award and most notably was formally recognized with a Knighthood in 2020 New Year's honors for his outstanding achievements and contribution to Motorsports on the track and off the track Lewis is also passionate activists for so many underrepresented groups and communities his mission 44 is doing incredible work please welcome to on purpose Lewis Hamilton Lewis thank you for being here thank you so much for having me no this honestly is a special one for me it's been one of those ones that you know when I first launched the podcast there were a few names that I wanted to sit down with and you were one of those names so for me it's a very special moment and for this to be your first ever podcast which you just told me I didn't even know and you literally told me this like 10 minutes ago and in my head I'm thinking wow thank I I'm so grateful to have that honor honestly honest mine I'm really so grateful for everything you do and so I've been following and listening to you and you sent me the book a long time ago already so I really appreciate everything you're doing today oh well thank you man thank you and I'm excited to unpack your journey because as we said because it's your first podcast people have heard parts of you but but we don't really understand the depth and the texture of of Lewis Hamilton and so I guess I want to start in a in a different place and we'll we'll kind of go through on this journey I wanted to ask you what do you feel is the hardest thing you've had to do in order to be who you are today I think continuing to have the belief in myself and not letting that Veer off since I was young since I've been told from my teachers that I would never amount to nothing The Bullying or the things that you face at the adversity you face the discrimination and just continue to keep your head up continuing to to march on ahead uh towards your dream and never lose inside now I think that's definitely for sure the most difficult thing is keeping keeping your goal and your eyes set on that and not being distracted um not giving up I think the easiest thing in life is to give up on whatever you know whatever you're focused on or whatever you're hopeful for the hardest thing is to continue to keep going but we have to like we have to continue to hold on and I would imagine for so many people out there that is that it that is probably the most difficult thing yeah I think that's a great answer because I think people look at you and they assume that you never have to make that choice right they see someone in your position someone who's achieved what you've achieved and the Assumption can be oh yeah but he's the greatest he was he was just always that way and he doesn't have to make that choice every day but as you said since the beginning of your life whether it's childhood whether it's breaking into a sport that wasn't set up for you there have been so many moments let's let's go back to school let's talk about some of that more in depth because I feel like a lot of people struggle at school but you kind of went through a lot of altercations and adversities at that time what were some of the things you were hearing some of the bullying some of the racism the experiences that you had that felt limiting or made it feel like it was easier to give up I think for me I mean school was the most probably the most traumatizing and diff most difficult part of my life wow um I already was being bullied at the age of six um I think at the time that particular school I was probably one of three kids of color and just bigger stronger bullying kids were throwing me around a lot of the time I was always the last picked in the you know when you're standing playground in your uh in the line of when they're picking teams for football I was always the last one chosen or not even chosen even if I was better than somebody else um and then the the constant Jabs the things that are either thrown at you like bananas or people that would use the m word just so relaxed um people calling you half cast and you know just really not knowing where you fit in that for me was difficult when you then go into like history class and everything you learn in history there are no people of color in the history that they were teaching us so I was thinking oh well where are the people that look like me and I mean for me in my school there was only around I think there was around seven maybe six seven black kids out of 1200 kids and three of us were else put outside the headmaster's office all the time the Headmaster just had it out for for us and particularly for me I would say so like just juggling all these different emotions that you're feeling plus I struggled at school I didn't find out till I was 16 that I was dyslexic fortunately I came across a teacher that was actually caring and um took me down that road and helped me discover a little bit more about myself and how I can better myself through education but um I think that for me was that was tough also because I was racing every weekend I would leave on the Thursday night we would travel you know pack up the motorhome we'll travel around the country to race on the weekends and no one else knew when I'd got back to school every all the kids have done normal things on the weekend and I'll come back and say I'm I was racing and people would be like oh I've done that before you know like at this at the theme park or something but no one really knew what my goal was and could really they thought we would maybe it was a joke you missed a lot of that social interaction also I was putting all the lowest sets at school and told that if you do well you can progress and then never ever let me progress no matter how hard I tried um so I really felt that the system was really up against me and I was kind of swimming against the tide but I'm so grateful for that that Journey because that's what built me to the person that I am today but there were a lot of things that I suppressed because I I couldn't go home and say hey to my I didn't feel I could go home and talk to my parents that you know these kids kept calling me them where today I got bullied I got beaten up at school today or I you know I wasn't able to defend myself I didn't want my dad to think I was not strong and so I'll you know if I had tears I would hold them back if I had emotions it would be in a quiet place and um it wasn't really till I started racing that I was able to channel this emotion that I had into my driving and it's like when I put this helmet on Superman was my favorite I loved how he fought for the people and I loved how he did the right things and he was a really inspiring character for me but again no superhero was of color so you know but you can still aspire to be someone that's if they don't look like you you know um and so I remember going to karate I remember putting this helmet on in racing and it felt like it was my cloak you know my superpowers had come out when I was driving and I was battling with these kids and I was doing able to do things that they seemed to not be able to do as well and that was my love wow yeah I mean it's my mind was opposite I was bullied a lot at school as well I was one of five people of color in my primary school and I was also overweight and so I was bullied for that and obviously you know my parents are from Indian backgrounds and so they'd gone through it much worse than I did when when they'd moved to England but the difference was that I would go cry to my mum and then my mum would come try and save the day in school and that was the worst that was so embarrassing like your mum's they're telling the teacher what happened and then I'm like oh no Mom don't do this and then it's even more embarrassing because the kids pick on you going oh mum came to say oh yeah yeah Mommy's right yeah so that that was my version of it I wasn't scared of crying to my mum but then it had it had different things but yeah that that's so hard as a kid when you're going through that and you're trying to find yourself you're trying to figure out what confidence is you don't even know what that means you feel like not going to school but then even though you're saying you found it in racing I mean racing was similar because you were working class you're still to this day the only working-class black driver to do as successfully as you have so not only do you have it at school you also have it in your passion like in the thing that is your cloak is your Superman so how does it feel when you're also dealing with it in that area where you've discovered what your passion or your interest is at that age what does it feel like when you're getting in that space it's inescapable you know you use that as an escape but then you're confronted with it also and so I was just grateful that I had this amazing figure in my dad you know I got a you know my best one of my best friends like his dad was never there I know there's not many people that have separated parents and and being shared between parents is not an easy thing um you know some days with your mom and some days we did that my my mum was the soft loving parent so that's where I really I feel like I learned a lot of compassion and empathy that's where I feel like I get it from her and my dad was at that strong like kind of stronger Rock and also just someone that looked like me on and just he would say do you talking on the track don't be distracted by it don't listen to what they're saying do your driving on track and show let's just be quiet and walk away as well as you know um so but you know again like your parents my parents went through well particularly my dad was someone that also face adversity through his life and he's like I want to do everything in my power to create a better life for my kid so that I don't feel or experience the things that I have encountered and through my through my journey and so but I think for me it was also difficult having biracial you know I'm biracial so having a white mother mother for example and a black dad I knew my dad would understand the racial slurs that I surrounded me my mum couldn't understand it so I couldn't really speak to my mum about it she was loving but she's never been educated within it she didn't know anything about black history and slavery and so it was a very difficult but but I had love there which was the most important thing yeah um but in the racing it was like you know like kids you just want to enjoy yourself you want to be included and you know when you're kind of outcast a little bit it's um it's difficult for kids you know and so that's why today like I'm like if I'm posting something I hope that when I do click that button I hope that it is a positive wave for some of the kids out there that are being distracted by all the stuff that's going on around the world yeah I mean I was I was telling you earlier I was so grateful came out to watch you in Austin a couple of weeks ago and got to meet your dad and I heard you talk about your dad in that way before and so when I met him I was it was I was just you know it's nice to share that with him and I was just saying how beautiful it is to see your relationship and and how it's evolved it's always been that way yeah yeah that's what I thought yeah yeah to walk us through whatever you feel my dad has been like the leader in getting me you know he had four jobs at one stage just to keep us go-karting because when we all started gokind most of the people were majority of the people were from working class families um so but then there are of course a few wealthier kids that have slightly better access to equipment and um mechanics and all those sorts of things and my dad was my mechanic so it was just me and him on the road and and my stepmom Linda um she would be there supporting um making sure that we're fully clothed making sure that we we've eaten and we're hydrated all those sorts of things for the weekend prepare my kid um so it was very much a family outing it was a family kind of um family weekend we did it as a family um we've traveled together my little brother would be on the road with us as well who's a major inspiration you've definitely got to speak to me one day um born with Cerebral Palsy um when I was seven and is a speaker today so he's and racing he's done he's defined all the odds and wow uh even though he's seven years younger than me still very much an inspiration but the thing with my dad was he was maybe he was my manager all the way till I was like 20 I got to we got to phone one and he was he worked so hard his work ethic for me was that that's was inspiring for me seeing how hard he worked the time he gets up in the morning the little sleep that he would have end of his day in the garage working on the go-kart preparing for the weekend packing up the track and getting us to where we are mechanicing learning to be a better mechanic and and still weighing all these different things it was quite phenomenal to see um but I think it was difficult for him to then show me love and sometimes you just want to hug from your dad you know or when you're facing these things you want to be able to be embraced but um when I think I got to when I was 22 23 it got really intense when I got to form one because all of a sudden you're thrown into you go through karting and cars you don't go to school to to learn to speak to the media you're literally thrown into the pit and at the time I didn't have management other than my dad my stepmom were booked flights and trips but um I didn't have PR I didn't have anybody to help protect me or prepare me for things driving I was good I would say but in these things is where a lot of mistakes happened um you've got the the kind of all the media attention and you have to so you're just learning on the go which was very difficult for a youngster I think yeah absolutely and and also I just you wanted to try and live some sort of normal normal life but nothing's normal for you at the time and the thing for me and my dad were just we're really bumping his at one stage it's like I really just want you to be my dad so we can let's go and have fun let's go and have a laugh but we hadn't had that for a long time and so um eventually I decided to sit part ways for my dad and I was like I'm gonna start making some of the decisions for myself and the mistakes that I'm gonna need to make and there was definitely a period of time where we spoke less um but we both have worked so hard to come back together and we have one of the greatest you know he's the first person I want to call when I finish a race um because I know he knows what it's like he was there from day one and so you know he's been to the last two races with me he's probably gonna come to the next one there's days where I do feel like I'm not enough there's days where I don't feel like I'm good enough and people be like yeah but you've won seven World titles anyway yeah but still there's days where I question no you still got it you still are you can you still be the best yes you can and so I have to just always I'm having that conversation with myself often but my dad's also there sometimes I'll say something that's maybe not the most positive and he'll be the one there just reaffirming no you've got this believe in yourself and it's so important for people to have people like that around them and I support myself I surround myself with other positive people as well and we continue I think it's all our job to lift every as many you know everyone up right I want everyone around me to win and yeah um and to become the best versions of themselves so no thank you for sharing that as well thank you for opening up about that because yeah I think the relationships we have with our parents are just so significant when it comes to achievement and success and when you start doing sport at your level even at an early age wins and losses starts becoming so important so win and loss is important in everyone's life in the sense that everyone has it in exams in school and things like that which we'll talk about in a second as well but for you you're having a in a very over way like you have one two three and then you have everyone else and and how have you kind of worked with that since you're young because I can imagine that your psychology can become very much like if you win things are great if you lose things are bad how have you kind of processed that as time's gone on and was there a time when it was unhealthy and difficult and has it got better or is it something you're always working on so on one side of things you know I struggled at school as I said so the teachers would write these reports that I was not focused or I wasn't doing well and and I remember the fear of that report every year and I try so hard to do well and then these teachers I don't know if teachers out there realize when they write those reports what's happening back at home whether you have an abusive uh household or you know the the stress of that was was difficult I feel embracing if I if I would win I could see a smile on my dad's face and it was really like okay if I do well at this I know that I'll be accepted you know um but I go to work double hard to be I've got to always be first I always laugh about the whole if you're not first you last because I'm literally whilst that's obviously I've not been fresh my whole life first was everything yeah um in order to be accepted in order to fit in and maybe to be appreciated um not only in within my relationship perhaps with my dad but then also around my friends and it was until I got older I realized it's about the bigger picture but when you have success it's so short-lived it's like it really is really short-lived you win a race then you go back home and you have big as a racing driver you know the weekend's so intense you've seen it there's so much energy so much it's really really in a stressful environment for everyone that's working within it then you go home and there's a huge come down like one or two days later and you're trying to balance those emotions that emotional rollercoaster um and learning to kind of channel that and figure out ways to keep it balanced whether with your routine and those sorts of things has been really key for me but I think during the last couple of last few years really understanding that it's about the bigger picture um I'm fighting for something far greater than winning a race I'm really fighting for changing the world you know we're more divided than ever I would say it's devastating I can't watch the news it's devastating every there's so much happening but there are so many great people out there that are doing really great things and I want to be one of I want to be a part of that [Music] inspirational energy bubble that people like yourselves are a part of um because we want to we need to create a brighter future we need to create better Future Leaders look how many look how bad our leaders are that are in governments you know like we need to be as part of the next generation of thought leaders um that are positive and um yeah so that's what I'm trying to be a part of every day I'm so I'm really trying to focus on my intentions as you're talking about like setting your intentions each day um I'm trying to learn new tools that I didn't have when I was a kid I didn't I didn't know about yoga I didn't know about meditation um I didn't have podcasts to listen to good people to listen to and aspire to kind of help me put on the right path so yeah um yeah we've got a lot of work to do there's almost not enough time here on this planet right we're here for such a short time really in the Scale of the Universe yeah but I think you're one of those people that you know and that's when we first connected that was one of the biggest reasons for me that I saw you using your platform for a bigger purpose I was like oh that's fascinating like that's so interesting to me because that's a choice too I think today we kind of assume that if someone has a platform or if someone's you know number one in their field or if someone's got followers that they should talk about stuff we kind of assume that anyone who has followers should talk about stuff first of all I don't think that's the case I think a lot of people choose not to uh but but you were someone that stood out to me massively where I was just like wow this person's really not just winning on on the track but it's thinking about how winning on the track transfers to what you can do off the track because of the influence because of your network because of your impact and I find that to be really The Missing Link for so many people because I always say that your purpose is something not just that makes you happy it's when you use what makes you happy to serve other people like when you use it to impact other people's lives when did that drop for you like when did that click for you like were you ever I guess what I'm trying to say is there's a transition when you're saying that well you know winning like maybe get the nod from my dad and obviously I was bullied and then I'm winning but then I'm number one at something like was there a point at which number one didn't satisfy you or was there a point at which the success that came from it or or you didn't actually have to get dissatisfied you just found that there was a better way to be successful does that make sense the parv that was striking when you're just saying that for me it was like I feel like we often live in fear of what people think um how you're going to be judged how you're going to be received if you you're free outspoken you're going to lose your job you're going to be fired I've always been a outspoken person I think that's just been a quality I've never been a follower um I don't like to conform to how people expect what people of what people expect from you as I said I was having a success and I was like okay now I'm on I'm at the top what can I do with it yeah and there are so many causes there's so many problems out there and there's so many so many amazing causes and which one you know there's only one of you so like what where do you put the focus and that's take it took a long long time to really find what that was for me I think for me education was something that I felt extremely passionate about because I I've been out to India I'd been out into some of the really poorest places like Manila and seeing young kids who are like us but begging for food and not having the same opportunities and for me that was that broke my heart and realized how privileged we are and how fortunate we are it was like I want to be working with people out there that are trying to create more you know there's over 100 million kids that don't have access to school or education so how can I get involved in that so align yourself with people that do but I think I was I was winning and it was giving me that tip of happiness but then I would kind of drop back down to normality and there was something missing and it was that purpose really or understanding what that purpose was and understanding what why you've been put here why are you beginning the platform that you've that you've been given why were the only you know only people of color this whole time through it all and when I started speaking about um diversity people like oh you want to get more people of coloring as as racing drivers only 20 of us so as I know it's this forty thousand forty fifty thousand jobs there's thousands of engineering jobs in the background and there's such a lack of diversity coming through I want to be a part of Shifting that narrative and shifting that conversation and having people be question themselves and have those difficult conversations with with people so I first I just started by having those difficult conversations with my boss and one of the things he brings up that he said that hit him hard I said have you ever thought of as a white person walking into the paddock into the race weekend Paddock and being the only white person there he's like he's like I hadn't even thought of that I said well that's what it's like for someone like me when I'm in the room you noticed you noticed that out of 50 people in a meeting you're the only person the black person there and it's not because we are less is because there are these barriers within Society through education that are limiting people to be the best they can be so my job is to be empowering and improving representation I'm really really passionate like black Equity as well so that's why I got involved with the Denver Broncos Denver Broncos yeah yeah and usually when I'm in conversation with sponsors or companies I'm like hey so what it how diverse is your team what are you doing about diversity inclusion how are you creating a better work workspace for people that's what I want to be a part of I the success can come later and that's that would be along the way but if you're not asking those questions or you're not tackling those issues then we're not blind yeah and so all them pretty much every partner that we have we have a lot of Partners within our team I've asked these really difficult questions and they're like oh you know what but we can do more I'm like well let's do it you know yeah so I think I've grown very close with my like Mercedes-Benz and Gamma they've been so open that we changed the car from Silver to Black in 2020. and as again I said to them like the car's been silver forever it's always been silver arrows and I was like imagine if we change the card to Black well that could you know us turning up and arriving is how you show up and it's how you know imagine the message we can send and we had the black car for the whole year and we didn't even really talk much about it we just let it be and we went with it and that's when I won myself with that car so that's beautiful now that must have felt special it was honestly my whole life flashed by my not that last lap in Turkey my whole life like all the struggles the questioning whether you were going to make it or not just all those doubts all those fears kind of flash by Me by you know through my eyes and came across the line and I was like I did it and I wanted the kids out there to know that you can do it too you know um so that's what I try and like every day just try to be encouraging of kitchen yeah yeah do you sometimes feel that we were talking about this a bit earlier that you know in other sports we get to see the emotions and the expressions of players that we love or you know anyone who's on the court or the field of the pitch whereas with you because we don't get to see that in your eyes in your last lap like that we can only hear it today which is why I'm so grateful to have this moment because I obviously whenever whenever I'm sit down with someone who's a high performer like you it's obvious that there's so much emotion and preparation and power but with racing specifically you just don't get to see that do you sometimes feel that the only people that can truly relate to you are the people you compete with because I feel like it's like you said there's only 20 of you that are racing anyway it's lonely anyway 99 of people in the world have no idea what it feels like to drive a car as fast as you do and the way you do in in any comparison do you sometimes feel that the only people you can relate to are the people that are racing against you and then do you kind of feel is there a loneliness in that experience or is that kind of like a power in that as well definitely the other drivers I do feel that there's more we have a lot more in common than we think but we're so competitive and a lot of us have our defense like you want to beat the guy but then you like the guy you might like the person outside the car but you can't show that like there's this whole psychological battle you're having with yourself and getting away of yourself a lot of the time so I really feel like as an older driver I'm trying to be more like reaching out to youngsters and um because they're the future you know um and I'm excited to see some of these young drivers are coming through are so so talented I don't know if they've got the best structure around them like I mean like I didn't necessarily have the ultimate structure that I perhaps have now so just try to be a kind of a positive light to them but naturally none of them are black and none of them have necessarily faced the same as me but they've faced their own challenges and and things about respecting that with within everybody and I've tried to be create allies necessarily like in having the difficult conversations with some of them I mean I'm so grateful for I've had a couple of them it really took the knee with me in 2020 um just on that you know my dad was going back to the house with my dad my dad like never let me cry as a kid he said there's a sign of weakness like don't let me ever see you shed a tear so I remember just holding back through those difficult times as a kid holding back most of that stuff in 2020 I cried I hadn't cried for at least I think at least 10 years maybe more it was there was a lot of bottled up stuff that came up that I had not realized that didn't even know about suppressing a pain or a feeling so I remember kind of bending on my knees thinking no what has happened in the world I've got to I've got to be outspoken I've got to take that chance because if I don't do it then no one's gonna do it if I don't if I don't take the knee if I don't let people like me know that I care and I hear you and I'm I'm with you and I'm going to do something about it I'm going to risk it all I don't care if my partners want to drop me because I want to be associated with this narrative I don't I'm like and I literally let go of all the fear and that's why I went came so forward with it and I know it's not easy for everyone to do that um but I just want to really and try to encourage people out there too to be themselves to speak out if they've got a problem if they're seeing something within the work working environment or experiencing something you gotta be outspoken about it and there's a right way to do it the first day I was going to take the knee I remember I didn't feel like I could tell my team I was like because I know I felt that they wouldn't understand how important it is for me to do this this day so I remember I had my black lives matter a shirt hidden and I just wore it out there and I I went ahead within so no one knew no one knew but every uh the sport had built and made all these t-shirts like um we race as one yeah slogan and they gave these t-shirts to all the to everybody I was like I'm not wearing that that's not what this is about and so this is what I'm doing and this was around George Floyd right yeah and afterwards my team were like well why don't you if you just told us we could have prepared a bit over I had this fear that they would try and stop me perhaps but that was just a fear um they've been massively supportive through the whole thing My Hope was that you know kids would be watching me like what it what it what is that why is he taking me what what does that shirt mean what is going on Dad Mom and then the parents being in an awkward position having to explain it maybe but I think what was really encouraging for me I think when we started really getting into the whole diversity inclusion we did the research there was only three percent out of two thousand people in the team as three percent diversity so since then we've been on this Mission the team have started new projects we've discovered that the the sport generally hires from one group of universities which is not diverse and if there are any young black students that go there they're twice as unlikely to be hired when they come out compared to their counterparts and also paid less exercises all these things that perhaps people didn't know that's the Hamilton commission right yeah yeah and that just was interesting to to experience that and now now we're working on like a diversity Charter that all the teams have to be a part of and it's not mine it's for the sport and it's to encourage those teams because there's still not any diversity within you know if you look at Ferrari they don't have hardly any there's most teams don't um but when I go back to my team to the factory normally in our marketing department wasn't very diverse initially and I walked in after the pandemic and I started seeing such a more diverse group of people I was really quite emotional because I was like oh my God there's I'm starting to see change but you don't see that on TV yeah so when I talk to the to the bosses of the sport I'm like hey you know there's all white men facing oh and and me facing the camera at the start of the race where are the women where are the people of color we've got to be showing some young kids are watching and they're like oh there's a place for me there I can be there I can be an engineer I can be a mechanic or whatever it may be and even for young girls oh I can be a racing driver or an engineer a strategist or whatever you know so representation's so so key to inspiring the young youth especially in these industries that they already have less access to right like that's the point that it's not just it's not just representation because you want them to even have the opportunity it's the fact that there's just no access point which is what you're trying to create I think what's what I find really beautiful about you doing it is you're doing it though when you're like I'm having all my emotions come up at the same time as trying to be a voice for other people and when you're saying like I'm I'm taking a knee because I know I have to make a stand externally but internally you're taking a knee because so much of your own stuff from years ago is coming back up like that must be quite hard when you're that's that strikes me as something that's really inspiring about what you did is that you were going through your own healing at the same time as trying to do healing for the world there is so much healing to do right and I was completely oblivious to that I needed healing I needed to really peel back some of those layers um I think for people that turn into tune into a race and you mentioned earlier on but when you we arrive everything's set up We There is work that we're doing in the background naturally people don't see they just see a show but there is an unbelievable amount of work that goes on in the background um when I talk to people that talk about how much weight you lose they're like yeah you just sit in the car and you drive um there's this huge psychological and emotional roller coaster that you're going through that it would be really hard for people to comprehend and you would mention about all these other athletes you see their faces in other sports you can't see because we've got helmet on but you go through this roller coaster ride in the race and then you get out and they the camera's right in your face you're not prepared for that your emotions are shot particularly if you failed or feel like you failed and you don't always answer the right way if you wear your your heart on your sleeve people that don't necessarily like that necessary always people take advantage of that so then you build up all these protection mechanisms and mechanisms that's not necessarily you and at the core but won't be the safest thing for you you know what I mean like I read something the other day about it's like three steps of you and there's one the one of which you present your uh who you present there's you and your who you are to you and your family and friends and then there's one the part of you the real you that no one ever gets to see and I think just today in today's world it's so vicious on social media it's the media can be you know can really tell you apart and you build up you know like you you make a mistake in something you say in the media and your ridicule Feud you never do it again so you build up and you go more and more in your shell and you become harder for people to really relate to but I think for me what I've realized in these last few years is really peeling back those layers and you know letting people know that I grew up in a council state I you know I've lived on the sofa with my uh my my parents we've had those struggles um the successful people out there you see they too have had those things where we need to show that young kids who are going through that same thing that oh I can if he can get there or they can get there then it must be possible for me too yeah um and like being showing you about vulnerability that's something that I really struggled to to to do for a long long time and um like today that's something I think I'm a lot more open than I've ever ever been yeah I'm not living in fear every day and that's like the most that's the most important thing I think for me personally I'm living a much happier life because I'm I'm a lot more open yeah it's liberating yeah absolutely yeah it's liberating when you finally feel like you're not trapped or you're hiding held or yeah or hiding yeah or hiding my favorite quotes is from my Angelo when she says we are all powerful beyond measure and that really hit home also for me that that's my favorite quote because and I have a tattooed because really we are so we do limit ourselves we get in our own way right along with the other things that get in our way but a lot of our fear stops us from driving forwards from progressing and that's why like I do the craziest things I jump out of planes yeah you've done what 80 jumps yeah like just just I love challenging myself and doing things even though there's maybe fear there but overcoming that fear is like it's the best feeling when you overcome it and you realize that she was all just a bunch of nonsense in your head I want to encourage so all my friends I'm like let's go and do this today they're like are you crazy my dad don't even think as a kid my dad was like is he really my son because I wouldn't do any of these things and even still today um I still find that he's actually done skydiving with my Dad yeah he said he would never do it but he did it so but driving 200 miles per hour is probably one of the scariest things that you do all the time like that's not for you anymore whatever things I've never had that fear yeah uh as a kid and I was just never you know I think if you go on a ski slope and you see these kids coming by the kids are generally Fearless right yeah but think as you go get older yes you start you hurt yourself a little bit you start protecting yourself more and more but I just don't have that I think I feel like that was something that just wasn't necessarily put in me I'm terrified of spiders yeah that's the only thing but I'm doing 200 miles an hour that's actually when I'm most at peace I would say yeah it's like I'm like flowing it's like my that's my element and that's why I like I love doing what I do it could be really really hard when I start racing I've been doing for 30 years I'm 37 I've been racing 30 years and when you stop like what what's gonna match that nothing's gonna have a probably a match being in the stadium or being at the race and being at the Pinnacle the sport being at the front of the greater or coming through the grid that motion that I get there when I do stop that will be a there'll be a big hole Yeah so I'm trying to generally focus on things find things that are going to replace that that will also be just as rewarding and that's like Mission 44 for me meeting kids at schools having these conversations with families and parents who clearly you're going through difficult times and want to create the best opportunity for their kids encouraging them they're like okay I've been there too look where I got so you can get there it's just got to work through it that's for me the that's way more rewarding than winning the race yeah so much more yeah that's I'm so grateful and I'm so happy that everyone's gonna getting to hear this I felt you're the only and I know you know you're talking about when that happens but it's brilliant that you're planning already because you can see how so many athletes mentally when they know their career has somewhat of a shelf life or a somewhat of a time span like it's so hot it's it just completely wrote but I remember you're reminding me of when I had the fortune of sitting down with Kobe Bryant and I said sat down with him when he'd already retired wow and I interviewed him oh so great I'm so jealous he was one of those people that was not upset being retired he loved it because he knew that his mission for him was to make these short movies and make all these uh Sports based content to inspire kids to tell their stories and to help them find better stories and so it's exactly what you're saying where he wasn't he's one of those people that I've met he was not sad about he was so happy he was so pumped that's what I'm working towards yeah because he he knew that he had a mission and he had a purpose and he'd gone and won an Oscar for a short movie that he'd made and you know he was creating content to inspire kids and that's where his heart was and of course watching his daughters play and so I'm super inspired by him yeah I know but yeah like when you said that that's what I remembered and and he was in the same boat he was like I always wanted to script right and never had time to script right he said I was always playing basketball and he goes but then I started script writing and I got a coach and then I was writing and getting better as a writer that's what I think when I've spoken to other athletes we focused so much on that being the best you can be and that one thing that the other things that you also love like if it's playing an instrument or if it's writing scripts like it all falls everything falls away and yeah um how can you come compartmentalize staying in the in the zone in the focus Lane but also building up some of those other skills and discovering other passions you know people's we've heard people tell LeBron shut up and dribble like yeah that's there there's a lot of people put you in the box and say this you can only do one thing but as I've seen and spoken to some people that are active and retired a lot of them say when particularly when they retire that they everything kind of fell apart like everything fell to the ground they had nothing to back it up with and they hadn't discovered what they're doing next so then they go through this emotional Journey um of of Discovery but it takes time so I'm like trying to learn from those things and applying them and find the other things that I'm passionate about so I generally feel today that I have lots of things in the pipeline that when I do stop it's gonna be like so grateful but I have something better that I'm moving on to yeah um but I I have no doubts that I oh me and my dad will always have to go to the go-kart track or something you know I'm always going to be competitive yeah I can't that's literally a strain in My DNA that's just never gonna gonna shift I'm competitive at everything I'm happy to hear that it's it's it's I'm sure that's refreshing it's great for people to also hear that even to inspire young people or Inspire anyone who's gone to a place in their career where they know that there's a certain moment where things are going to wind down but then they're going to transition I think I don't think we celebrate the transitions enough in life and life is made up of transition absolutely and people think that it's maybe less or something but it's yeah it's it's not about that yeah exactly so it's fascinating you found that what are some of these like you said like um you know I've been doing jumps I've been doing this with my friends what are some of the routines that you put into place to help you manage your mindset because I feel like you're you said that being at 200 miles per hour for the duration of a race is like being in flow for you that means you're extremely comfortable with your own thoughts extremely comfortable with being in a high stress high pressure environment but being just with your own self talk to us about how you I mean it sounds like that's always been the case but what have you done to become more and more comfortable with that yeah I think naturally this is the natural ability right but um I've been out of focus for an hour and 45 minutes without making mistakes and that's that's literally insane it's unbelievable dealing with the pressures um a friend actually asked me last night because I talk about we lose a lot of race a lot of weight in the race yes like sometimes you can lose up to 10 pounds like four kilos and people like whoa I need to be particularly in America they're like oh I need to be a racing driver um for the weight loss but this question is my friend asked me the other day that's like where does the where does the weight go like yeah because my suit doesn't because afterwards I weigh less but the I'm like so it must evaporate you somewhere so I've never got to figure out where all that weight actually truly goes because it obviously isn't in sweat but that's like messed my mind about um but the suit definitely is obviously a little bit heavier but um it's about gaining tools and I think as when I was younger I didn't have I knew how to arrive at the race I channeled the so this emotion that I had through whatever those difficulties were into my driving so it's laser focused like if you watch a video for me when I was five years old on Blue Pizza you'll see I'm just laser focused but um being able to control emotions being out to be calm and present staying centered there are loads of obviously different methods that people can use so things that I try to that I've started to incorporate over the years more in my life is things like stretching things like yoga and meditation has been a real that for me was something that I never thought that that I kind of turned a blind eye to it when I was younger I thought that's not gonna be helpful but being able to be sit still for a second and listen to the noises around you um and understand you want to tap into that kind of in a child or whatever it may be that's for me been taking that moment for yourself each day treating yourself with love and being kind to yourself you know because I think for a long time I wasn't kind to myself and that's been a process uh doing things that being purposeful and and having real certain intentions each day no matter how big or small and you know I wake up I'm looking in the mirror brushing your teeth then stop for a second sake this today's gonna be the day today's gonna be great um and no matter what you're faced with you know just whatever you come out with yeah yeah talking to yourself also speaking to people I think is very important I think as a kid as I said I didn't feel like I could speak to people I didn't feel like I could tell my mom about these experiences I felt embarrassed I couldn't tell my dad so I thought he would fulfill think less of me I couldn't talk to any of the teachers couldn't tell my most my friends most of them uh weren't particularly of color so but finding learning to be open and speak to people or find someone to speak to whether it's a therapist or whatever that's that's been a huge um help um I don't not necessarily have a therapist especially someone that I'm able to then just have shoot a with basically yeah um and confide in and Trust like trust has been something that I've never had done didn't trust anybody through those experiments I had as a kid and it's been very very hard to build trust with people but creating allies finding things that are that you have in common with people like my boss for example him and I just breaking each other down and then just having realizing that was similar in many many ways but also very different but that's not what should divide us we can then be allies and so that's why we're working on being the most diverse team we're working on pushing we have we've studied ignite which is about getting you know improving that pipeline of into motorsport for people um from underserved communities and there's so much work to do you're doing it though man I'm trying to I'm trying to and you know to the point you were asking earlier like has has enough been done absolutely not in the industry yes and like you don't feel that yeah and it's not only in either industry it's everywhere and is that your goal to sort in the industry and then expand out or you're starting you're starting across the board anyway yeah yeah that well with the team with where it's we started an organization which called ignite which we both fund and that is focused on the sport Motorsport in general but Mission 44 is focused on a much you know societal challenges and barriers and and education and um that's a focused in the UK at the moment but I want to bring that over to the states absolutely man um you know hopefully by at least 2024 um also just been to Africa and there is so much Beauty there and I really really want to have an imp you know really want to help there as well so yeah um we will continue to expand but we're one of the one of the few black founding non-profit organizations in UK and with um black CEO for example a very diverse group of people um and just having those conversations with people of just what a diverse Workforce means and how that bet can benefit you when you have people from different backgrounds all coming up with a diverse diverse thought and creation it's that's how you have more success yeah it's a no it's a no-brainer when you hear it and you're just like wow that makes so much sense and creativity is better and you you'd be able to come up with far more innovative ideas and you've got so many more cultures now being celebrated involved and I I feel like it's it's interesting to me that the world hasn't caught on with that yet like it's it's interesting that even despite there being progress there's not enough progress but what what is the block like what is the stop is it a mindset is it just habits and laziness like what is the actual like if you got to the core of it from everyone you've been speaking to like what are you what is the issue is the issue that yeah is the issue just laziness and just oh this is the way things have always been or is it or is there actually like a setup I don't have the answer to it I I ask that question all the time and I come up with lots of different theories in my mind um sometimes I'm like maybe people don't just don't care maybe people's problems are so big that they don't have time to focus on other things and it's hard enough just to do the thing that you're focused on or just overcoming the issue that you're overcoming so how am I gonna have more time to yeah to speak about these things why should I take the risk and risk my next step and so I feel like it's about learning to be selfless right and um which is difficult to do if you're not being loving yourself and not in a good place yeah so I think it all comes to us at hopefully a time at a certain point in our lives um but also you know we live in a time where like social media is so it's such a dangerous it's such a powerful tool but it's also can be so dangerous and so dividing and I see people out there today and there's people that I admire that I'm that that I would follow and I'd be like how they projecting something that's not necessarily healthy for you for people out there how are they projecting they're not using this platform to be more inspirational or be more positive and there's others that are but then I don't you can't judge because that's their Journey well you can continue to do is try to you know with that Maya Angelou quote it's about being shining your light as bright as you can possibly get it and hope that by doing it you I think you automatically uh encourage the people around you to want to do the same and I never truly understood that until I see the team that I work with how we all Inspire each other how with this year for example we've had the you know 2022 has been one of the hardest years for us as a team um as we didn't build a great car and we had our struggles as many people do and how we've had to all come closer and the relationship I've had with people that I've worked with this team for 10 years and there's conversations we've had this year people have opened up like they've never opened up before people have cried like it's been it's been beautiful to see yeah I feel like with some a far better team than we've ever been before because we're living with intention we're actually talking about impact that everyone in the team's gone and had diversity inclusion training no one's been kind of like I'm not I'm not going through that class why do I have to go and learn with diversity and inclusions about it I'm and why it doesn't impact me you know people like I understand it doesn't I wouldn't necessarily notice it but I want to understand it more so I can be better in my working environment it's been unbelievable that's amazing also leaders within our sport are now now where we are on a road to being a more diverse and more inclusive sport but I think my job is to continuously make sure that it that that same the effort that we're putting in now doesn't kind of fall away and become kind of you know just because it was um trending yeah yeah yeah that is actually something that's on the top of the list sustainability is on the top of our list and that real true core values we don't go out of our way well you know because a lot of people it's very easy to kind of be led by the money success but making sure you stick to your core values it's so true so important it goes back to what you said though that that's what real leaders do like leaders don't follow what's trending like leaders have focused on transformation and then they're dedicated to transformation and they're going to keep doing it until they see a change whereas followers follow Trends and oh it's not trending now it doesn't matter we'll focus on something else but you know obviously it's so clear just listening to you today and it's amazing Because unless I'm so glad I've had this opportunity to talk to you because I can hear just how deeply dedicated you are to this and how it's at your core it's like it's everything that comes out of your pores today is just you know which is which is really special to see a value being embodied like to empower other people you have to embody the value first it doesn't just you don't just go around empowering people and so to hear how your soul and heart is like completely a sponge for this stuff and then to wanting to go and share it with the world it's really remarkable man ah thank you yeah well I mean it's I've I'm by far perfect no yeah I know and I think that's like it's not about being perfect it's about just every day one step at a time trying to be better trying to do more yeah and um learning a lot about myself I've had to break myself down in order to be able to be better and what do you mean by breaking yourself down uh well just when you when I told you about like all those barriers you put up over time to protect yourself and then kind of like knocking those barriers down yes and it's enabled me to connect with more people it's enabled me to realize my place in the world and I don't feel like I don't belong anymore I feel like uh you know I've got a place and I've got a purpose and that's and I think a lot of people are struggling to find that purpose but it's okay you'll you will find it do not give up keep getting up you know like just keep saying those things to yourself and you will eventually find it and you know you're already living in your purpose and having such a huge impact on so many people you know telling stories which uh is it's amazing to see um I started this production company inspired by like Kobe and so many out there but stories for me storytelling I watch a lot of movies I don't know about you but yeah I love movies especially Sports movies yeah like when I go home I'll like I you know order takeaway or make myself some pasta or something like that and then I put the plate in front of me and I can't eat till I found something to watch like my my Escape is watching a movie and I always like to find something hopefully inspiring yes but what the reason I created this um production company is because you know until recently we didn't have any people of color are superheroes We I think these stories storytelling is so so important for people out there for inspiring people and and I want to make sure that in and everything that I do every project that I work on is with a diverse Workforce like I'm doing this from one movie with um Brad Pitt and Joe kazinski and um but my job is to make sure that it's diverse behind the camera as it is on screen the story is empowering and uplifting um it's not there's no BS in terms of the racing and hopefully one kid will watch it and yeah or more and feel empowered to go and do something great absolutely I love that man I'm so glad you're doing that because when you said do I like movies the movie that came to my mind was uh race have you seen race because yeah so like that the story is unbelievable but when you watch the movie as well it's unbelievable to see what Jesse Owens did like to think that he had to go I can't even imagine I can't you know you just can't imagine if everyone's not seen the movie you have to go see them yeah it's just one of those movies that's like how do you do that like how do you go and race in Nazi Germany like I have like I must have been terrified terrifying and you know there's been so many great stories like that that are out there that need telling yeah um continuously telling yeah 42 is another one yeah 42 is awesome um but yeah there is these really unique people out there I think for me being in this sport being the only one and being the first is that is that has been lonely yeah and that has been really really a difficult thing to kind of understand and and um through my life I know many many people like Jesse for example being the first and only at the time you know I've taken huge inspiration from him Nelson Mandela was like ah he's just one of my biggest biggest Inspirations um I was so so fortunate to get to meet him when I was I was like 23 or something oh wow what was that like yeah ah it was mind-blowing I mean when you when you then I got to form one and you have the success all these things come and you don't even you've dreamed of being a racing driver but you didn't dream that all the other things of all the other things that come along like meeting other unbelievable people I went to Nelson Mandela's 90th birthday in London and I was sat on his table in this huge room full of like Bill Clinton was there like uh Denzel Washington was there open Winfrey sat right next to me like all these people that you would never ever in the million years dream of think you would ever get to meet yeah and then you discover and they're also just human beings with feelings and with emotions and with their own challenges but I was so young at the time it was it was I don't even recognize myself when I look back at me seven years ago I see a shell of me and I think I look today and see myself and know myself so much more um and that's again that's an empowering experience to be in but yeah I went into the room and met him and he sat at his chair and it was like walking into I was like God or like a king you know and his silk shirt was his Aura was something you could see his Aura his smile he was beaming that was the most probably the most impactful day for me um as a youngster wow Lewis it's unbelievable talking to you I mean what you've achieved on the track off the track and now I'm even more excited to see you continue to achieve uh as your journey continues because I'm going to say this and I don't say this often and I genuinely my team can vouch for and everyone else can listen back to any episode I think you're one of the most on-purpose people I've ever interviewed and I appreciate that no and I genuinely like it just there's nothing else that comes from your being apart from what your purpose currently is with Mission 44 and and it's it's really remarkable to meet someone who's so on purpose I don't I genuinely don't have that experience and the only person you reminded me of was Kobe he had it too when I was around him there was no there's nothing else it wasn't like he missed anything he was at peace he was it was peace with purpose you know and you have that same Aura and spirit from from at least my experience thank you so much it's so kind of you yeah and I really mean that I really mean that it's incredible so uh we we end every episode with a Fast Five which means every question has to be answered in one word to one sentence maximum okay and we ask these same questions to every guest that's ever been on the show I should be prepared for that because I've seen you so well no the the first question is what's the best advice you've ever heard or received I think it was the achieve my dad uh never give up that's been like the slogan in the back of my mind every single day the other one would be um just that you'll always be learning and that's what I learned from Nelson Mandela he was like I'm 19 and I'm still learning today and like I was like what can you tell me it's like I'm still learning today and it's okay to be learning you're always going to be learning something new and growing yourself wow that's beautiful very like wow but like guys that was pretty basic but no but it's not it's it's powerful knowing he said that yeah as in the fact that he said that on his 90th birthday that is powerful because it's a long way to go yeah and it's like a lot of people I feel like a lot of people feel by 90 especially him he has so much wisdom to share yeah but the fact that his wisdom was I'm just learning that yeah I'm still learning that's pretty cool all right second question uh what's the worst advice you ever heard or received give up it's just the opposite yeah yeah literally the worst bit of advice and it wasn't I mean it wasn't necessarily advice but I when I was younger there was other parents of other racing drivers I was racing against I remember this one guy and he's like she just you just don't have it you should just give up their parents were saying their parents the grown man in these 40s or 50s told me that and I was eight told you told me yeah to my face and I remember just being so like what am I supposed to do with that what do you mean give up what was the reason I would imagine because I was beating his kid maybe I don't know I never really thought of what the reason would be and the same with teachers you know yeah what is this crap you know you're terrible at this you'll never know go to the next set you're never gonna amount to anything why are you even here I had a parent I had a teacher tell me that and wow it broke me down so much question number three uh how do you deal with loss and how do you deal with the win I think success is as I mentioned earlier short-lived success is there's a lot less learn in succ	a lot of people put you in the box and say this you can only do one thing but as I've seen and spoken to some people that are active and retired a lot of them say when particularly when they retire that they everything kind of fell apart like everything fell to the ground they had nothing to back it up with and they hadn't discovered what they're doing next so then they go through this emotional Journey um of of Discovery but it takes time so I'm like trying to learn from those things and applying them and find the other things that I'm passionate about so I generally feel today that I have lots of things in the pipeline that when I do stop it's gonna be like so grateful but I have something better that I'm moving on to yeah um but I I have no doubts that I oh me and my dad will always have to go to the go-kart track or something you know I'm always going to be competitive yeah I can't that's literally a strain in My DNA that's just never gonna gonna shift I'm competitive at everything I'm happy to hear that it's it's it's I'm sure that's refreshing it's great for people to also hear that even to inspire young people or Inspire anyone who's gone to a place in their career where they know that there's a certain moment where things are going to wind down but then	8	6	4	a lot of people put you in the box and say this you can only do one thing but as I've seen and spoken to some people that are active and retired a lot of them say when particularly when they retire that they everything kind of fell apart like everything fell to the ground they had nothing to back it up with and they hadn't discovered what they're doing next so then they go through this emotional Journey um of of Discovery but it takes time so I'm like trying to learn from those things and applying them and find the other things that I'm passionate about so I generally feel today that I have lots of things in the pipeline that when I do stop it's gonna be like so grateful but I have something better that I'm moving on to yeah um but I I have no doubts that I oh me and my dad will always have to go to the go-kart track or something you know I'm always going to be competitive yeah I can't that's literally a strain in My DNA that's just never gonna gonna shift I'm competitive at everything	I'm happy to hear that it's it's it's I'm sure that's refreshing it's great for people to also hear that even to inspire young people or Inspire anyone who's gone to a place in their career where they know that there's a certain moment where things are going to wind down but then	4,5,8	7,3,5	4	5	8	7	3	5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyiWKXTd9aY	4,235	AyiWKXTd9aY	2023-01-23 00:00:00	I think the easiest thing in life is to give up on whatever you know whatever you're focused on or whatever you're hopeful for the hardest thing is to keep going but we have to like we have to continue to hold on and I would imagine for so many people out there that is probably the most difficult thing the best-selling author and host the number one Health and Wellness podcast on purpose with Jay Shetty hey everyone welcome back to on purpose the number one Health podcast in the world thanks to each and every one of you that come back every week to listen learn and grow now I know that our community is dedicated to living happier healthier and more healed lives and I love sitting down with people who are dedicated to their own happiness their own health their own healing and doing that for the world through their work and I have to be honest it's not every day that you get to sit down with someone you admire you're inspired by you look up to and someone who is truly the definition of the word goat uh I'm talking about the one and only sir Lewis Hamilton seven time Formula One World Champion someone with over a hundred race wins considered the most successful F1 driver of all time and Lewis's willingness to embrace what makes him different has defined his values and outlook on life and in 2014 those values saw him win BBC's Sports personality of the Year followed two years later by a position in Time magazine's 100 most influential people list Lewis received both accolades for a second time in 2020 in a year that saw him become a leading voice in the global fight for racial equality in doing so he was recognized as British gq's Game Changer of the year and Powerless most influential black person in the UK and further to this Lewis won the 2020 glorious Sportsman of the Year award and most notably was formally recognized with a Knighthood in 2020 New Year's honors for his outstanding achievements and contribution to Motorsports on the track and off the track Lewis is also passionate activists for so many underrepresented groups and communities his mission 44 is doing incredible work please welcome to on purpose Lewis Hamilton Lewis thank you for being here thank you so much for having me no this honestly is a special one for me it's been one of those ones that you know when I first launched the podcast there were a few names that I wanted to sit down with and you were one of those names so for me it's a very special moment and for this to be your first ever podcast which you just told me I didn't even know and you literally told me this like 10 minutes ago and in my head I'm thinking wow thank I I'm so grateful to have that honor honestly honest mine I'm really so grateful for everything you do and so I've been following and listening to you and you sent me the book a long time ago already so I really appreciate everything you're doing today oh well thank you man thank you and I'm excited to unpack your journey because as we said because it's your first podcast people have heard parts of you but but we don't really understand the depth and the texture of of Lewis Hamilton and so I guess I want to start in a in a different place and we'll we'll kind of go through on this journey I wanted to ask you what do you feel is the hardest thing you've had to do in order to be who you are today I think continuing to have the belief in myself and not letting that Veer off since I was young since I've been told from my teachers that I would never amount to nothing The Bullying or the things that you face at the adversity you face the discrimination and just continue to keep your head up continuing to to march on ahead uh towards your dream and never lose inside now I think that's definitely for sure the most difficult thing is keeping keeping your goal and your eyes set on that and not being distracted um not giving up I think the easiest thing in life is to give up on whatever you know whatever you're focused on or whatever you're hopeful for the hardest thing is to continue to keep going but we have to like we have to continue to hold on and I would imagine for so many people out there that is that it that is probably the most difficult thing yeah I think that's a great answer because I think people look at you and they assume that you never have to make that choice right they see someone in your position someone who's achieved what you've achieved and the Assumption can be oh yeah but he's the greatest he was he was just always that way and he doesn't have to make that choice every day but as you said since the beginning of your life whether it's childhood whether it's breaking into a sport that wasn't set up for you there have been so many moments let's let's go back to school let's talk about some of that more in depth because I feel like a lot of people struggle at school but you kind of went through a lot of altercations and adversities at that time what were some of the things you were hearing some of the bullying some of the racism the experiences that you had that felt limiting or made it feel like it was easier to give up I think for me I mean school was the most probably the most traumatizing and diff most difficult part of my life wow um I already was being bullied at the age of six um I think at the time that particular school I was probably one of three kids of color and just bigger stronger bullying kids were throwing me around a lot of the time I was always the last picked in the you know when you're standing playground in your uh in the line of when they're picking teams for football I was always the last one chosen or not even chosen even if I was better than somebody else um and then the the constant Jabs the things that are either thrown at you like bananas or people that would use the m word just so relaxed um people calling you half cast and you know just really not knowing where you fit in that for me was difficult when you then go into like history class and everything you learn in history there are no people of color in the history that they were teaching us so I was thinking oh well where are the people that look like me and I mean for me in my school there was only around I think there was around seven maybe six seven black kids out of 1200 kids and three of us were else put outside the headmaster's office all the time the Headmaster just had it out for for us and particularly for me I would say so like just juggling all these different emotions that you're feeling plus I struggled at school I didn't find out till I was 16 that I was dyslexic fortunately I came across a teacher that was actually caring and um took me down that road and helped me discover a little bit more about myself and how I can better myself through education but um I think that for me was that was tough also because I was racing every weekend I would leave on the Thursday night we would travel you know pack up the motorhome we'll travel around the country to race on the weekends and no one else knew when I'd got back to school every all the kids have done normal things on the weekend and I'll come back and say I'm I was racing and people would be like oh I've done that before you know like at this at the theme park or something but no one really knew what my goal was and could really they thought we would maybe it was a joke you missed a lot of that social interaction also I was putting all the lowest sets at school and told that if you do well you can progress and then never ever let me progress no matter how hard I tried um so I really felt that the system was really up against me and I was kind of swimming against the tide but I'm so grateful for that that Journey because that's what built me to the person that I am today but there were a lot of things that I suppressed because I I couldn't go home and say hey to my I didn't feel I could go home and talk to my parents that you know these kids kept calling me them where today I got bullied I got beaten up at school today or I you know I wasn't able to defend myself I didn't want my dad to think I was not strong and so I'll you know if I had tears I would hold them back if I had emotions it would be in a quiet place and um it wasn't really till I started racing that I was able to channel this emotion that I had into my driving and it's like when I put this helmet on Superman was my favorite I loved how he fought for the people and I loved how he did the right things and he was a really inspiring character for me but again no superhero was of color so you know but you can still aspire to be someone that's if they don't look like you you know um and so I remember going to karate I remember putting this helmet on in racing and it felt like it was my cloak you know my superpowers had come out when I was driving and I was battling with these kids and I was doing able to do things that they seemed to not be able to do as well and that was my love wow yeah I mean it's my mind was opposite I was bullied a lot at school as well I was one of five people of color in my primary school and I was also overweight and so I was bullied for that and obviously you know my parents are from Indian backgrounds and so they'd gone through it much worse than I did when when they'd moved to England but the difference was that I would go cry to my mum and then my mum would come try and save the day in school and that was the worst that was so embarrassing like your mum's they're telling the teacher what happened and then I'm like oh no Mom don't do this and then it's even more embarrassing because the kids pick on you going oh mum came to say oh yeah yeah Mommy's right yeah so that that was my version of it I wasn't scared of crying to my mum but then it had it had different things but yeah that that's so hard as a kid when you're going through that and you're trying to find yourself you're trying to figure out what confidence is you don't even know what that means you feel like not going to school but then even though you're saying you found it in racing I mean racing was similar because you were working class you're still to this day the only working-class black driver to do as successfully as you have so not only do you have it at school you also have it in your passion like in the thing that is your cloak is your Superman so how does it feel when you're also dealing with it in that area where you've discovered what your passion or your interest is at that age what does it feel like when you're getting in that space it's inescapable you know you use that as an escape but then you're confronted with it also and so I was just grateful that I had this amazing figure in my dad you know I got a you know my best one of my best friends like his dad was never there I know there's not many people that have separated parents and and being shared between parents is not an easy thing um you know some days with your mom and some days we did that my my mum was the soft loving parent so that's where I really I feel like I learned a lot of compassion and empathy that's where I feel like I get it from her and my dad was at that strong like kind of stronger Rock and also just someone that looked like me on and just he would say do you talking on the track don't be distracted by it don't listen to what they're saying do your driving on track and show let's just be quiet and walk away as well as you know um so but you know again like your parents my parents went through well particularly my dad was someone that also face adversity through his life and he's like I want to do everything in my power to create a better life for my kid so that I don't feel or experience the things that I have encountered and through my through my journey and so but I think for me it was also difficult having biracial you know I'm biracial so having a white mother mother for example and a black dad I knew my dad would understand the racial slurs that I surrounded me my mum couldn't understand it so I couldn't really speak to my mum about it she was loving but she's never been educated within it she didn't know anything about black history and slavery and so it was a very difficult but but I had love there which was the most important thing yeah um but in the racing it was like you know like kids you just want to enjoy yourself you want to be included and you know when you're kind of outcast a little bit it's um it's difficult for kids you know and so that's why today like I'm like if I'm posting something I hope that when I do click that button I hope that it is a positive wave for some of the kids out there that are being distracted by all the stuff that's going on around the world yeah I mean I was I was telling you earlier I was so grateful came out to watch you in Austin a couple of weeks ago and got to meet your dad and I heard you talk about your dad in that way before and so when I met him I was it was I was just you know it's nice to share that with him and I was just saying how beautiful it is to see your relationship and and how it's evolved it's always been that way yeah yeah that's what I thought yeah yeah to walk us through whatever you feel my dad has been like the leader in getting me you know he had four jobs at one stage just to keep us go-karting because when we all started gokind most of the people were majority of the people were from working class families um so but then there are of course a few wealthier kids that have slightly better access to equipment and um mechanics and all those sorts of things and my dad was my mechanic so it was just me and him on the road and and my stepmom Linda um she would be there supporting um making sure that we're fully clothed making sure that we we've eaten and we're hydrated all those sorts of things for the weekend prepare my kid um so it was very much a family outing it was a family kind of um family weekend we did it as a family um we've traveled together my little brother would be on the road with us as well who's a major inspiration you've definitely got to speak to me one day um born with Cerebral Palsy um when I was seven and is a speaker today so he's and racing he's done he's defined all the odds and wow uh even though he's seven years younger than me still very much an inspiration but the thing with my dad was he was maybe he was my manager all the way till I was like 20 I got to we got to phone one and he was he worked so hard his work ethic for me was that that's was inspiring for me seeing how hard he worked the time he gets up in the morning the little sleep that he would have end of his day in the garage working on the go-kart preparing for the weekend packing up the track and getting us to where we are mechanicing learning to be a better mechanic and and still weighing all these different things it was quite phenomenal to see um but I think it was difficult for him to then show me love and sometimes you just want to hug from your dad you know or when you're facing these things you want to be able to be embraced but um when I think I got to when I was 22 23 it got really intense when I got to form one because all of a sudden you're thrown into you go through karting and cars you don't go to school to to learn to speak to the media you're literally thrown into the pit and at the time I didn't have management other than my dad my stepmom were booked flights and trips but um I didn't have PR I didn't have anybody to help protect me or prepare me for things driving I was good I would say but in these things is where a lot of mistakes happened um you've got the the kind of all the media attention and you have to so you're just learning on the go which was very difficult for a youngster I think yeah absolutely and and also I just you wanted to try and live some sort of normal normal life but nothing's normal for you at the time and the thing for me and my dad were just we're really bumping his at one stage it's like I really just want you to be my dad so we can let's go and have fun let's go and have a laugh but we hadn't had that for a long time and so um eventually I decided to sit part ways for my dad and I was like I'm gonna start making some of the decisions for myself and the mistakes that I'm gonna need to make and there was definitely a period of time where we spoke less um but we both have worked so hard to come back together and we have one of the greatest you know he's the first person I want to call when I finish a race um because I know he knows what it's like he was there from day one and so you know he's been to the last two races with me he's probably gonna come to the next one there's days where I do feel like I'm not enough there's days where I don't feel like I'm good enough and people be like yeah but you've won seven World titles anyway yeah but still there's days where I question no you still got it you still are you can you still be the best yes you can and so I have to just always I'm having that conversation with myself often but my dad's also there sometimes I'll say something that's maybe not the most positive and he'll be the one there just reaffirming no you've got this believe in yourself and it's so important for people to have people like that around them and I support myself I surround myself with other positive people as well and we continue I think it's all our job to lift every as many you know everyone up right I want everyone around me to win and yeah um and to become the best versions of themselves so no thank you for sharing that as well thank you for opening up about that because yeah I think the relationships we have with our parents are just so significant when it comes to achievement and success and when you start doing sport at your level even at an early age wins and losses starts becoming so important so win and loss is important in everyone's life in the sense that everyone has it in exams in school and things like that which we'll talk about in a second as well but for you you're having a in a very over way like you have one two three and then you have everyone else and and how have you kind of worked with that since you're young because I can imagine that your psychology can become very much like if you win things are great if you lose things are bad how have you kind of processed that as time's gone on and was there a time when it was unhealthy and difficult and has it got better or is it something you're always working on so on one side of things you know I struggled at school as I said so the teachers would write these reports that I was not focused or I wasn't doing well and and I remember the fear of that report every year and I try so hard to do well and then these teachers I don't know if teachers out there realize when they write those reports what's happening back at home whether you have an abusive uh household or you know the the stress of that was was difficult I feel embracing if I if I would win I could see a smile on my dad's face and it was really like okay if I do well at this I know that I'll be accepted you know um but I go to work double hard to be I've got to always be first I always laugh about the whole if you're not first you last because I'm literally whilst that's obviously I've not been fresh my whole life first was everything yeah um in order to be accepted in order to fit in and maybe to be appreciated um not only in within my relationship perhaps with my dad but then also around my friends and it was until I got older I realized it's about the bigger picture but when you have success it's so short-lived it's like it really is really short-lived you win a race then you go back home and you have big as a racing driver you know the weekend's so intense you've seen it there's so much energy so much it's really really in a stressful environment for everyone that's working within it then you go home and there's a huge come down like one or two days later and you're trying to balance those emotions that emotional rollercoaster um and learning to kind of channel that and figure out ways to keep it balanced whether with your routine and those sorts of things has been really key for me but I think during the last couple of last few years really understanding that it's about the bigger picture um I'm fighting for something far greater than winning a race I'm really fighting for changing the world you know we're more divided than ever I would say it's devastating I can't watch the news it's devastating every there's so much happening but there are so many great people out there that are doing really great things and I want to be one of I want to be a part of that [Music] inspirational energy bubble that people like yourselves are a part of um because we want to we need to create a brighter future we need to create better Future Leaders look how many look how bad our leaders are that are in governments you know like we need to be as part of the next generation of thought leaders um that are positive and um yeah so that's what I'm trying to be a part of every day I'm so I'm really trying to focus on my intentions as you're talking about like setting your intentions each day um I'm trying to learn new tools that I didn't have when I was a kid I didn't I didn't know about yoga I didn't know about meditation um I didn't have podcasts to listen to good people to listen to and aspire to kind of help me put on the right path so yeah um yeah we've got a lot of work to do there's almost not enough time here on this planet right we're here for such a short time really in the Scale of the Universe yeah but I think you're one of those people that you know and that's when we first connected that was one of the biggest reasons for me that I saw you using your platform for a bigger purpose I was like oh that's fascinating like that's so interesting to me because that's a choice too I think today we kind of assume that if someone has a platform or if someone's you know number one in their field or if someone's got followers that they should talk about stuff we kind of assume that anyone who has followers should talk about stuff first of all I don't think that's the case I think a lot of people choose not to uh but but you were someone that stood out to me massively where I was just like wow this person's really not just winning on on the track but it's thinking about how winning on the track transfers to what you can do off the track because of the influence because of your network because of your impact and I find that to be really The Missing Link for so many people because I always say that your purpose is something not just that makes you happy it's when you use what makes you happy to serve other people like when you use it to impact other people's lives when did that drop for you like when did that click for you like were you ever I guess what I'm trying to say is there's a transition when you're saying that well you know winning like maybe get the nod from my dad and obviously I was bullied and then I'm winning but then I'm number one at something like was there a point at which number one didn't satisfy you or was there a point at which the success that came from it or or you didn't actually have to get dissatisfied you just found that there was a better way to be successful does that make sense the parv that was striking when you're just saying that for me it was like I feel like we often live in fear of what people think um how you're going to be judged how you're going to be received if you you're free outspoken you're going to lose your job you're going to be fired I've always been a outspoken person I think that's just been a quality I've never been a follower um I don't like to conform to how people expect what people of what people expect from you as I said I was having a success and I was like okay now I'm on I'm at the top what can I do with it yeah and there are so many causes there's so many problems out there and there's so many so many amazing causes and which one you know there's only one of you so like what where do you put the focus and that's take it took a long long time to really find what that was for me I think for me education was something that I felt extremely passionate about because I I've been out to India I'd been out into some of the really poorest places like Manila and seeing young kids who are like us but begging for food and not having the same opportunities and for me that was that broke my heart and realized how privileged we are and how fortunate we are it was like I want to be working with people out there that are trying to create more you know there's over 100 million kids that don't have access to school or education so how can I get involved in that so align yourself with people that do but I think I was I was winning and it was giving me that tip of happiness but then I would kind of drop back down to normality and there was something missing and it was that purpose really or understanding what that purpose was and understanding what why you've been put here why are you beginning the platform that you've that you've been given why were the only you know only people of color this whole time through it all and when I started speaking about um diversity people like oh you want to get more people of coloring as as racing drivers only 20 of us so as I know it's this forty thousand forty fifty thousand jobs there's thousands of engineering jobs in the background and there's such a lack of diversity coming through I want to be a part of Shifting that narrative and shifting that conversation and having people be question themselves and have those difficult conversations with with people so I first I just started by having those difficult conversations with my boss and one of the things he brings up that he said that hit him hard I said have you ever thought of as a white person walking into the paddock into the race weekend Paddock and being the only white person there he's like he's like I hadn't even thought of that I said well that's what it's like for someone like me when I'm in the room you noticed you noticed that out of 50 people in a meeting you're the only person the black person there and it's not because we are less is because there are these barriers within Society through education that are limiting people to be the best they can be so my job is to be empowering and improving representation I'm really really passionate like black Equity as well so that's why I got involved with the Denver Broncos Denver Broncos yeah yeah and usually when I'm in conversation with sponsors or companies I'm like hey so what it how diverse is your team what are you doing about diversity inclusion how are you creating a better work workspace for people that's what I want to be a part of I the success can come later and that's that would be along the way but if you're not asking those questions or you're not tackling those issues then we're not blind yeah and so all them pretty much every partner that we have we have a lot of Partners within our team I've asked these really difficult questions and they're like oh you know what but we can do more I'm like well let's do it you know yeah so I think I've grown very close with my like Mercedes-Benz and Gamma they've been so open that we changed the car from Silver to Black in 2020. and as again I said to them like the car's been silver forever it's always been silver arrows and I was like imagine if we change the card to Black well that could you know us turning up and arriving is how you show up and it's how you know imagine the message we can send and we had the black car for the whole year and we didn't even really talk much about it we just let it be and we went with it and that's when I won myself with that car so that's beautiful now that must have felt special it was honestly my whole life flashed by my not that last lap in Turkey my whole life like all the struggles the questioning whether you were going to make it or not just all those doubts all those fears kind of flash by Me by you know through my eyes and came across the line and I was like I did it and I wanted the kids out there to know that you can do it too you know um so that's what I try and like every day just try to be encouraging of kitchen yeah yeah do you sometimes feel that we were talking about this a bit earlier that you know in other sports we get to see the emotions and the expressions of players that we love or you know anyone who's on the court or the field of the pitch whereas with you because we don't get to see that in your eyes in your last lap like that we can only hear it today which is why I'm so grateful to have this moment because I obviously whenever whenever I'm sit down with someone who's a high performer like you it's obvious that there's so much emotion and preparation and power but with racing specifically you just don't get to see that do you sometimes feel that the only people that can truly relate to you are the people you compete with because I feel like it's like you said there's only 20 of you that are racing anyway it's lonely anyway 99 of people in the world have no idea what it feels like to drive a car as fast as you do and the way you do in in any comparison do you sometimes feel that the only people you can relate to are the people that are racing against you and then do you kind of feel is there a loneliness in that experience or is that kind of like a power in that as well definitely the other drivers I do feel that there's more we have a lot more in common than we think but we're so competitive and a lot of us have our defense like you want to beat the guy but then you like the guy you might like the person outside the car but you can't show that like there's this whole psychological battle you're having with yourself and getting away of yourself a lot of the time so I really feel like as an older driver I'm trying to be more like reaching out to youngsters and um because they're the future you know um and I'm excited to see some of these young drivers are coming through are so so talented I don't know if they've got the best structure around them like I mean like I didn't necessarily have the ultimate structure that I perhaps have now so just try to be a kind of a positive light to them but naturally none of them are black and none of them have necessarily faced the same as me but they've faced their own challenges and and things about respecting that with within everybody and I've tried to be create allies necessarily like in having the difficult conversations with some of them I mean I'm so grateful for I've had a couple of them it really took the knee with me in 2020 um just on that you know my dad was going back to the house with my dad my dad like never let me cry as a kid he said there's a sign of weakness like don't let me ever see you shed a tear so I remember just holding back through those difficult times as a kid holding back most of that stuff in 2020 I cried I hadn't cried for at least I think at least 10 years maybe more it was there was a lot of bottled up stuff that came up that I had not realized that didn't even know about suppressing a pain or a feeling so I remember kind of bending on my knees thinking no what has happened in the world I've got to I've got to be outspoken I've got to take that chance because if I don't do it then no one's gonna do it if I don't if I don't take the knee if I don't let people like me know that I care and I hear you and I'm I'm with you and I'm going to do something about it I'm going to risk it all I don't care if my partners want to drop me because I want to be associated with this narrative I don't I'm like and I literally let go of all the fear and that's why I went came so forward with it and I know it's not easy for everyone to do that um but I just want to really and try to encourage people out there too to be themselves to speak out if they've got a problem if they're seeing something within the work working environment or experiencing something you gotta be outspoken about it and there's a right way to do it the first day I was going to take the knee I remember I didn't feel like I could tell my team I was like because I know I felt that they wouldn't understand how important it is for me to do this this day so I remember I had my black lives matter a shirt hidden and I just wore it out there and I I went ahead within so no one knew no one knew but every uh the sport had built and made all these t-shirts like um we race as one yeah slogan and they gave these t-shirts to all the to everybody I was like I'm not wearing that that's not what this is about and so this is what I'm doing and this was around George Floyd right yeah and afterwards my team were like well why don't you if you just told us we could have prepared a bit over I had this fear that they would try and stop me perhaps but that was just a fear um they've been massively supportive through the whole thing My Hope was that you know kids would be watching me like what it what it what is that why is he taking me what what does that shirt mean what is going on Dad Mom and then the parents being in an awkward position having to explain it maybe but I think what was really encouraging for me I think when we started really getting into the whole diversity inclusion we did the research there was only three percent out of two thousand people in the team as three percent diversity so since then we've been on this Mission the team have started new projects we've discovered that the the sport generally hires from one group of universities which is not diverse and if there are any young black students that go there they're twice as unlikely to be hired when they come out compared to their counterparts and also paid less exercises all these things that perhaps people didn't know that's the Hamilton commission right yeah yeah and that just was interesting to to experience that and now now we're working on like a diversity Charter that all the teams have to be a part of and it's not mine it's for the sport and it's to encourage those teams because there's still not any diversity within you know if you look at Ferrari they don't have hardly any there's most teams don't um but when I go back to my team to the factory normally in our marketing department wasn't very diverse initially and I walked in after the pandemic and I started seeing such a more diverse group of people I was really quite emotional because I was like oh my God there's I'm starting to see change but you don't see that on TV yeah so when I talk to the to the bosses of the sport I'm like hey you know there's all white men facing oh and and me facing the camera at the start of the race where are the women where are the people of color we've got to be showing some young kids are watching and they're like oh there's a place for me there I can be there I can be an engineer I can be a mechanic or whatever it may be and even for young girls oh I can be a racing driver or an engineer a strategist or whatever you know so representation's so so key to inspiring the young youth especially in these industries that they already have less access to right like that's the point that it's not just it's not just representation because you want them to even have the opportunity it's the fact that there's just no access point which is what you're trying to create I think what's what I find really beautiful about you doing it is you're doing it though when you're like I'm having all my emotions come up at the same time as trying to be a voice for other people and when you're saying like I'm I'm taking a knee because I know I have to make a stand externally but internally you're taking a knee because so much of your own stuff from years ago is coming back up like that must be quite hard when you're that's that strikes me as something that's really inspiring about what you did is that you were going through your own healing at the same time as trying to do healing for the world there is so much healing to do right and I was completely oblivious to that I needed healing I needed to really peel back some of those layers um I think for people that turn into tune into a race and you mentioned earlier on but when you we arrive everything's set up We There is work that we're doing in the background naturally people don't see they just see a show but there is an unbelievable amount of work that goes on in the background um when I talk to people that talk about how much weight you lose they're like yeah you just sit in the car and you drive um there's this huge psychological and emotional roller coaster that you're going through that it would be really hard for people to comprehend and you would mention about all these other athletes you see their faces in other sports you can't see because we've got helmet on but you go through this roller coaster ride in the race and then you get out and they the camera's right in your face you're not prepared for that your emotions are shot particularly if you failed or feel like you failed and you don't always answer the right way if you wear your your heart on your sleeve people that don't necessarily like that necessary always people take advantage of that so then you build up all these protection mechanisms and mechanisms that's not necessarily you and at the core but won't be the safest thing for you you know what I mean like I read something the other day about it's like three steps of you and there's one the one of which you present your uh who you present there's you and your who you are to you and your family and friends and then there's one the part of you the real you that no one ever gets to see and I think just today in today's world it's so vicious on social media it's the media can be you know can really tell you apart and you build up you know like you you make a mistake in something you say in the media and your ridicule Feud you never do it again so you build up and you go more and more in your shell and you become harder for people to really relate to but I think for me what I've realized in these last few years is really peeling back those layers and you know letting people know that I grew up in a council state I you know I've lived on the sofa with my uh my my parents we've had those struggles um the successful people out there you see they too have had those things where we need to show that young kids who are going through that same thing that oh I can if he can get there or they can get there then it must be possible for me too yeah um and like being showing you about vulnerability that's something that I really struggled to to to do for a long long time and um like today that's something I think I'm a lot more open than I've ever ever been yeah I'm not living in fear every day and that's like the most that's the most important thing I think for me personally I'm living a much happier life because I'm I'm a lot more open yeah it's liberating yeah absolutely yeah it's liberating when you finally feel like you're not trapped or you're hiding held or yeah or hiding yeah or hiding my favorite quotes is from my Angelo when she says we are all powerful beyond measure and that really hit home also for me that that's my favorite quote because and I have a tattooed because really we are so we do limit ourselves we get in our own way right along with the other things that get in our way but a lot of our fear stops us from driving forwards from progressing and that's why like I do the craziest things I jump out of planes yeah you've done what 80 jumps yeah like just just I love challenging myself and doing things even though there's maybe fear there but overcoming that fear is like it's the best feeling when you overcome it and you realize that she was all just a bunch of nonsense in your head I want to encourage so all my friends I'm like let's go and do this today they're like are you crazy my dad don't even think as a kid my dad was like is he really my son because I wouldn't do any of these things and even still today um I still find that he's actually done skydiving with my Dad yeah he said he would never do it but he did it so but driving 200 miles per hour is probably one of the scariest things that you do all the time like that's not for you anymore whatever things I've never had that fear yeah uh as a kid and I was just never you know I think if you go on a ski slope and you see these kids coming by the kids are generally Fearless right yeah but think as you go get older yes you start you hurt yourself a little bit you start protecting yourself more and more but I just don't have that I think I feel like that was something that just wasn't necessarily put in me I'm terrified of spiders yeah that's the only thing but I'm doing 200 miles an hour that's actually when I'm most at peace I would say yeah it's like I'm like flowing it's like my that's my element and that's why I like I love doing what I do it could be really really hard when I start racing I've been doing for 30 years I'm 37 I've been racing 30 years and when you stop like what what's gonna match that nothing's gonna have a probably a match being in the stadium or being at the race and being at the Pinnacle the sport being at the front of the greater or coming through the grid that motion that I get there when I do stop that will be a there'll be a big hole Yeah so I'm trying to generally focus on things find things that are going to replace that that will also be just as rewarding and that's like Mission 44 for me meeting kids at schools having these conversations with families and parents who clearly you're going through difficult times and want to create the best opportunity for their kids encouraging them they're like okay I've been there too look where I got so you can get there it's just got to work through it that's for me the that's way more rewarding than winning the race yeah so much more yeah that's I'm so grateful and I'm so happy that everyone's gonna getting to hear this I felt you're the only and I know you know you're talking about when that happens but it's brilliant that you're planning already because you can see how so many athletes mentally when they know their career has somewhat of a shelf life or a somewhat of a time span like it's so hot it's it just completely wrote but I remember you're reminding me of when I had the fortune of sitting down with Kobe Bryant and I said sat down with him when he'd already retired wow and I interviewed him oh so great I'm so jealous he was one of those people that was not upset being retired he loved it because he knew that his mission for him was to make these short movies and make all these uh Sports based content to inspire kids to tell their stories and to help them find better stories and so it's exactly what you're saying where he wasn't he's one of those people that I've met he was not sad about he was so happy he was so pumped that's what I'm working towards yeah because he he knew that he had a mission and he had a purpose and he'd gone and won an Oscar for a short movie that he'd made and you know he was creating content to inspire kids and that's where his heart was and of course watching his daughters play and so I'm super inspired by him yeah I know but yeah like when you said that that's what I remembered and and he was in the same boat he was like I always wanted to script right and never had time to script right he said I was always playing basketball and he goes but then I started script writing and I got a coach and then I was writing and getting better as a writer that's what I think when I've spoken to other athletes we focused so much on that being the best you can be and that one thing that the other things that you also love like if it's playing an instrument or if it's writing scripts like it all falls everything falls away and yeah um how can you come compartmentalize staying in the in the zone in the focus Lane but also building up some of those other skills and discovering other passions you know people's we've heard people tell LeBron shut up and dribble like yeah that's there there's a lot of people put you in the box and say this you can only do one thing but as I've seen and spoken to some people that are active and retired a lot of them say when particularly when they retire that they everything kind of fell apart like everything fell to the ground they had nothing to back it up with and they hadn't discovered what they're doing next so then they go through this emotional Journey um of of Discovery but it takes time so I'm like trying to learn from those things and applying them and find the other things that I'm passionate about so I generally feel today that I have lots of things in the pipeline that when I do stop it's gonna be like so grateful but I have something better that I'm moving on to yeah um but I I have no doubts that I oh me and my dad will always have to go to the go-kart track or something you know I'm always going to be competitive yeah I can't that's literally a strain in My DNA that's just never gonna gonna shift I'm competitive at everything I'm happy to hear that it's it's it's I'm sure that's refreshing it's great for people to also hear that even to inspire young people or Inspire anyone who's gone to a place in their career where they know that there's a certain moment where things are going to wind down but then they're going to transition I think I don't think we celebrate the transitions enough in life and life is made up of transition absolutely and people think that it's maybe less or something but it's yeah it's it's not about that yeah exactly so it's fascinating you found that what are some of these like you said like um you know I've been doing jumps I've been doing this with my friends what are some of the routines that you put into place to help you manage your mindset because I feel like you're you said that being at 200 miles per hour for the duration of a race is like being in flow for you that means you're extremely comfortable with your own thoughts extremely comfortable with being in a high stress high pressure environment but being just with your own self talk to us about how you I mean it sounds like that's always been the case but what have you done to become more and more comfortable with that yeah I think naturally this is the natural ability right but um I've been out of focus for an hour and 45 minutes without making mistakes and that's that's literally insane it's unbelievable dealing with the pressures um a friend actually asked me last night because I talk about we lose a lot of race a lot of weight in the race yes like sometimes you can lose up to 10 pounds like four kilos and people like whoa I need to be particularly in America they're like oh I need to be a racing driver um for the weight loss but this question is my friend asked me the other day that's like where does the where does the weight go like yeah because my suit doesn't because afterwards I weigh less but the I'm like so it must evaporate you somewhere so I've never got to figure out where all that weight actually truly goes because it obviously isn't in sweat but that's like messed my mind about um but the suit definitely is obviously a little bit heavier but um it's about gaining tools and I think as when I was younger I didn't have I knew how to arrive at the race I channeled the so this emotion that I had through whatever those difficulties were into my driving so it's laser focused like if you watch a video for me when I was five years old on Blue Pizza you'll see I'm just laser focused but um being able to control emotions being out to be calm and present staying centered there are loads of obviously different methods that people can use so things that I try to that I've started to incorporate over the years more in my life is things like stretching things like yoga and meditation has been a real that for me was something that I never thought that that I kind of turned a blind eye to it when I was younger I thought that's not gonna be helpful but being able to be sit still for a second and listen to the noises around you um and understand you want to tap into that kind of in a child or whatever it may be that's for me been taking that moment for yourself each day treating yourself with love and being kind to yourself you know because I think for a long time I wasn't kind to myself and that's been a process uh doing things that being purposeful and and having real certain intentions each day no matter how big or small and you know I wake up I'm looking in the mirror brushing your teeth then stop for a second sake this today's gonna be the day today's gonna be great um and no matter what you're faced with you know just whatever you come out with yeah yeah talking to yourself also speaking to people I think is very important I think as a kid as I said I didn't feel like I could speak to people I didn't feel like I could tell my mom about these experiences I felt embarrassed I couldn't tell my dad so I thought he would fulfill think less of me I couldn't talk to any of the teachers couldn't tell my most my friends most of them uh weren't particularly of color so but finding learning to be open and speak to people or find someone to speak to whether it's a therapist or whatever that's that's been a huge um help um I don't not necessarily have a therapist especially someone that I'm able to then just have shoot a with basically yeah um and confide in and Trust like trust has been something that I've never had done didn't trust anybody through those experiments I had as a kid and it's been very very hard to build trust with people but creating allies finding things that are that you have in common with people like my boss for example him and I just breaking each other down and then just having realizing that was similar in many many ways but also very different but that's not what should divide us we can then be allies and so that's why we're working on being the most diverse team we're working on pushing we have we've studied ignite which is about getting you know improving that pipeline of into motorsport for people um from underserved communities and there's so much work to do you're doing it though man I'm trying to I'm trying to and you know to the point you were asking earlier like has has enough been done absolutely not in the industry yes and like you don't feel that yeah and it's not only in either industry it's everywhere and is that your goal to sort in the industry and then expand out or you're starting you're starting across the board anyway yeah yeah that well with the team with where it's we started an organization which called ignite which we both fund and that is focused on the sport Motorsport in general but Mission 44 is focused on a much you know societal challenges and barriers and and education and um that's a focused in the UK at the moment but I want to bring that over to the states absolutely man um you know hopefully by at least 2024 um also just been to Africa and there is so much Beauty there and I really really want to have an imp you know really want to help there as well so yeah um we will continue to expand but we're one of the one of the few black founding non-profit organizations in UK and with um black CEO for example a very diverse group of people um and just having those conversations with people of just what a diverse Workforce means and how that bet can benefit you when you have people from different backgrounds all coming up with a diverse diverse thought and creation it's that's how you have more success yeah it's a no it's a no-brainer when you hear it and you're just like wow that makes so much sense and creativity is better and you you'd be able to come up with far more innovative ideas and you've got so many more cultures now being celebrated involved and I I feel like it's it's interesting to me that the world hasn't caught on with that yet like it's it's interesting that even despite there being progress there's not enough progress but what what is the block like what is the stop is it a mindset is it just habits and laziness like what is the actual like if you got to the core of it from everyone you've been speaking to like what are you what is the issue is the issue that yeah is the issue just laziness and just oh this is the way things have always been or is it or is there actually like a setup I don't have the answer to it I I ask that question all the time and I come up with lots of different theories in my mind um sometimes I'm like maybe people don't just don't care maybe people's problems are so big that they don't have time to focus on other things and it's hard enough just to do the thing that you're focused on or just overcoming the issue that you're overcoming so how am I gonna have more time to yeah to speak about these things why should I take the risk and risk my next step and so I feel like it's about learning to be selfless right and um which is difficult to do if you're not being loving yourself and not in a good place yeah so I think it all comes to us at hopefully a time at a certain point in our lives um but also you know we live in a time where like social media is so it's such a dangerous it's such a powerful tool but it's also can be so dangerous and so dividing and I see people out there today and there's people that I admire that I'm that that I would follow and I'd be like how they projecting something that's not necessarily healthy for you for people out there how are they projecting they're not using this platform to be more inspirational or be more positive and there's others that are but then I don't you can't judge because that's their Journey well you can continue to do is try to you know with that Maya Angelou quote it's about being shining your light as bright as you can possibly get it and hope that by doing it you I think you automatically uh encourage the people around you to want to do the same and I never truly understood that until I see the team that I work with how we all Inspire each other how with this year for example we've had the you know 2022 has been one of the hardest years for us as a team um as we didn't build a great car and we had our struggles as many people do and how we've had to all come closer and the relationship I've had with people that I've worked with this team for 10 years and there's conversations we've had this year people have opened up like they've never opened up before people have cried like it's been it's been beautiful to see yeah I feel like with some a far better team than we've ever been before because we're living with intention we're actually talking about impact that everyone in the team's gone and had diversity inclusion training no one's been kind of like I'm not I'm not going through that class why do I have to go and learn with diversity and inclusions about it I'm and why it doesn't impact me you know people like I understand it doesn't I wouldn't necessarily notice it but I want to understand it more so I can be better in my working environment it's been unbelievable that's amazing also leaders within our sport are now now where we are on a road to being a more diverse and more inclusive sport but I think my job is to continuously make sure that it that that same the effort that we're putting in now doesn't kind of fall away and become kind of you know just because it was um trending yeah yeah yeah that is actually something that's on the top of the list sustainability is on the top of our list and that real true core values we don't go out of our way well you know because a lot of people it's very easy to kind of be led by the money success but making sure you stick to your core values it's so true so important it goes back to what you said though that that's what real leaders do like leaders don't follow what's trending like leaders have focused on transformation and then they're dedicated to transformation and they're going to keep doing it until they see a change whereas followers follow Trends and oh it's not trending now it doesn't matter we'll focus on something else but you know obviously it's so clear just listening to you today and it's amazing Because unless I'm so glad I've had this opportunity to talk to you because I can hear just how deeply dedicated you are to this and how it's at your core it's like it's everything that comes out of your pores today is just you know which is which is really special to see a value being embodied like to empower other people you have to embody the value first it doesn't just you don't just go around empowering people and so to hear how your soul and heart is like completely a sponge for this stuff and then to wanting to go and share it with the world it's really remarkable man ah thank you yeah well I mean it's I've I'm by far perfect no yeah I know and I think that's like it's not about being perfect it's about just every day one step at a time trying to be better trying to do more yeah and um learning a lot about myself I've had to break myself down in order to be able to be better and what do you mean by breaking yourself down uh well just when you when I told you about like all those barriers you put up over time to protect yourself and then kind of like knocking those barriers down yes and it's enabled me to connect with more people it's enabled me to realize my place in the world and I don't feel like I don't belong anymore I feel like uh you know I've got a place and I've got a purpose and that's and I think a lot of people are struggling to find that purpose but it's okay you'll you will find it do not give up keep getting up you know like just keep saying those things to yourself and you will eventually find it and you know you're already living in your purpose and having such a huge impact on so many people you know telling stories which uh is it's amazing to see um I started this production company inspired by like Kobe and so many out there but stories for me storytelling I watch a lot of movies I don't know about you but yeah I love movies especially Sports movies yeah like when I go home I'll like I you know order takeaway or make myself some pasta or something like that and then I put the plate in front of me and I can't eat till I found something to watch like my my Escape is watching a movie and I always like to find something hopefully inspiring yes but what the reason I created this um production company is because you know until recently we didn't have any people of color are superheroes We I think these stories storytelling is so so important for people out there for inspiring people and and I want to make sure that in and everything that I do every project that I work on is with a diverse Workforce like I'm doing this from one movie with um Brad Pitt and Joe kazinski and um but my job is to make sure that it's diverse behind the camera as it is on screen the story is empowering and uplifting um it's not there's no BS in terms of the racing and hopefully one kid will watch it and yeah or more and feel empowered to go and do something great absolutely I love that man I'm so glad you're doing that because when you said do I like movies the movie that came to my mind was uh race have you seen race because yeah so like that the story is unbelievable but when you watch the movie as well it's unbelievable to see what Jesse Owens did like to think that he had to go I can't even imagine I can't you know you just can't imagine if everyone's not seen the movie you have to go see them yeah it's just one of those movies that's like how do you do that like how do you go and race in Nazi Germany like I have like I must have been terrified terrifying and you know there's been so many great stories like that that are out there that need telling yeah um continuously telling yeah 42 is another one yeah 42 is awesome um but yeah there is these really unique people out there I think for me being in this sport being the only one and being the first is that is that has been lonely yeah and that has been really really a difficult thing to kind of understand and and um through my life I know many many people like Jesse for example being the first and only at the time you know I've taken huge inspiration from him Nelson Mandela was like ah he's just one of my biggest biggest Inspirations um I was so so fortunate to get to meet him when I was I was like 23 or something oh wow what was that like yeah ah it was mind-blowing I mean when you when you then I got to form one and you have the success all these things come and you don't even you've dreamed of being a racing driver but you didn't dream that all the other things of all the other things that come along like meeting other unbelievable people I went to Nelson Mandela's 90th birthday in London and I was sat on his table in this huge room full of like Bill Clinton was there like uh Denzel Washington was there open Winfrey sat right next to me like all these people that you would never ever in the million years dream of think you would ever get to meet yeah and then you discover and they're also just human beings with feelings and with emotions and with their own challenges but I was so young at the time it was it was I don't even recognize myself when I look back at me seven years ago I see a shell of me and I think I look today and see myself and know myself so much more um and that's again that's an empowering experience to be in but yeah I went into the room and met him and he sat at his chair and it was like walking into I was like God or like a king you know and his silk shirt was his Aura was something you could see his Aura his smile he was beaming that was the most probably the most impactful day for me um as a youngster wow Lewis it's unbelievable talking to you I mean what you've achieved on the track off the track and now I'm even more excited to see you continue to achieve uh as your journey continues because I'm going to say this and I don't say this often and I genuinely my team can vouch for and everyone else can listen back to any episode I think you're one of the most on-purpose people I've ever interviewed and I appreciate that no and I genuinely like it just there's nothing else that comes from your being apart from what your purpose currently is with Mission 44 and and it's it's really remarkable to meet someone who's so on purpose I don't I genuinely don't have that experience and the only person you reminded me of was Kobe he had it too when I was around him there was no there's nothing else it wasn't like he missed anything he was at peace he was it was peace with purpose you know and you have that same Aura and spirit from from at least my experience thank you so much it's so kind of you yeah and I really mean that I really mean that it's incredible so uh we we end every episode with a Fast Five which means every question has to be answered in one word to one sentence maximum okay and we ask these same questions to every guest that's ever been on the show I should be prepared for that because I've seen you so well no the the first question is what's the best advice you've ever heard or received I think it was the achieve my dad uh never give up that's been like the slogan in the back of my mind every single day the other one would be um just that you'll always be learning and that's what I learned from Nelson Mandela he was like I'm 19 and I'm still learning today and like I was like what can you tell me it's like I'm still learning today and it's okay to be learning you're always going to be learning something new and growing yourself wow that's beautiful very like wow but like guys that was pretty basic but no but it's not it's it's powerful knowing he said that yeah as in the fact that he said that on his 90th birthday that is powerful because it's a long way to go yeah and it's like a lot of people I feel like a lot of people feel by 90 especially him he has so much wisdom to share yeah but the fact that his wisdom was I'm just learning that yeah I'm still learning that's pretty cool all right second question uh what's the worst advice you ever heard or received give up it's just the opposite yeah yeah literally the worst bit of advice and it wasn't I mean it wasn't necessarily advice but I when I was younger there was other parents of other racing drivers I was racing against I remember this one guy and he's like she just you just don't have it you should just give up their parents were saying their parents the grown man in these 40s or 50s told me that and I was eight told you told me yeah to my face and I remember just being so like what am I supposed to do with that what do you mean give up what was the reason I would imagine because I was beating his kid maybe I don't know I never really thought of what the reason would be and the same with teachers you know yeah what is this crap you know you're terrible at this you'll never know go to the next set you're never gonna amount to anything why are you even here I had a parent I had a teacher tell me that and wow it broke me down so much question number three uh how do you deal with loss and how do you deal with the win I think success is as I mentioned earlier short-lived success is there's a lot less learn in succ	they're going to transition I think I don't think we celebrate the transitions enough in life and life is made up of transition absolutely and people think that it's maybe less or something but it's yeah it's it's not about that yeah exactly so it's fascinating you found that what are some of these like you said like um you know I've been doing jumps I've been doing this with my friends what are some of the routines that you put into place to help you manage your mindset because I feel like you're you said that being at 200 miles per hour for the duration of a race is like being in flow for you that means you're extremely comfortable with your own thoughts extremely comfortable with being in a high stress high pressure environment but being just with your own self talk to us about how you I mean it sounds like that's always been the case but what have you done to become more and more comfortable with that yeah I think naturally this is the natural ability right but um I've been out of focus for an hour and 45 minutes without making mistakes and that's that's literally insane it's unbelievable dealing with the pressures um a friend actually asked me last night because I talk about we lose a lot of race a lot of weight in the race yes like sometimes you can lose up to 10 pounds like four kilos and people like	8	6	4	I think I don't think we celebrate the transitions enough in life and life is made up of transition absolutely and people think that it's maybe less or something but it's yeah it's it's not about that yeah exactly	yeah I think naturally this is the natural ability right but um I've been out of focus for an hour and 45 minutes without making mistakes and that's that's literally insane it's unbelievable dealing with the pressures um a friend actually asked me last night because I talk about we lose a lot of race a lot of weight in the race yes like sometimes you can lose up to 10 pounds like four kilos and people like	6,4,5	8,7,6	6	4	5	8	7	6
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyiWKXTd9aY	4,235	AyiWKXTd9aY	2023-01-23 00:00:00	I think the easiest thing in life is to give up on whatever you know whatever you're focused on or whatever you're hopeful for the hardest thing is to keep going but we have to like we have to continue to hold on and I would imagine for so many people out there that is probably the most difficult thing the best-selling author and host the number one Health and Wellness podcast on purpose with Jay Shetty hey everyone welcome back to on purpose the number one Health podcast in the world thanks to each and every one of you that come back every week to listen learn and grow now I know that our community is dedicated to living happier healthier and more healed lives and I love sitting down with people who are dedicated to their own happiness their own health their own healing and doing that for the world through their work and I have to be honest it's not every day that you get to sit down with someone you admire you're inspired by you look up to and someone who is truly the definition of the word goat uh I'm talking about the one and only sir Lewis Hamilton seven time Formula One World Champion someone with over a hundred race wins considered the most successful F1 driver of all time and Lewis's willingness to embrace what makes him different has defined his values and outlook on life and in 2014 those values saw him win BBC's Sports personality of the Year followed two years later by a position in Time magazine's 100 most influential people list Lewis received both accolades for a second time in 2020 in a year that saw him become a leading voice in the global fight for racial equality in doing so he was recognized as British gq's Game Changer of the year and Powerless most influential black person in the UK and further to this Lewis won the 2020 glorious Sportsman of the Year award and most notably was formally recognized with a Knighthood in 2020 New Year's honors for his outstanding achievements and contribution to Motorsports on the track and off the track Lewis is also passionate activists for so many underrepresented groups and communities his mission 44 is doing incredible work please welcome to on purpose Lewis Hamilton Lewis thank you for being here thank you so much for having me no this honestly is a special one for me it's been one of those ones that you know when I first launched the podcast there were a few names that I wanted to sit down with and you were one of those names so for me it's a very special moment and for this to be your first ever podcast which you just told me I didn't even know and you literally told me this like 10 minutes ago and in my head I'm thinking wow thank I I'm so grateful to have that honor honestly honest mine I'm really so grateful for everything you do and so I've been following and listening to you and you sent me the book a long time ago already so I really appreciate everything you're doing today oh well thank you man thank you and I'm excited to unpack your journey because as we said because it's your first podcast people have heard parts of you but but we don't really understand the depth and the texture of of Lewis Hamilton and so I guess I want to start in a in a different place and we'll we'll kind of go through on this journey I wanted to ask you what do you feel is the hardest thing you've had to do in order to be who you are today I think continuing to have the belief in myself and not letting that Veer off since I was young since I've been told from my teachers that I would never amount to nothing The Bullying or the things that you face at the adversity you face the discrimination and just continue to keep your head up continuing to to march on ahead uh towards your dream and never lose inside now I think that's definitely for sure the most difficult thing is keeping keeping your goal and your eyes set on that and not being distracted um not giving up I think the easiest thing in life is to give up on whatever you know whatever you're focused on or whatever you're hopeful for the hardest thing is to continue to keep going but we have to like we have to continue to hold on and I would imagine for so many people out there that is that it that is probably the most difficult thing yeah I think that's a great answer because I think people look at you and they assume that you never have to make that choice right they see someone in your position someone who's achieved what you've achieved and the Assumption can be oh yeah but he's the greatest he was he was just always that way and he doesn't have to make that choice every day but as you said since the beginning of your life whether it's childhood whether it's breaking into a sport that wasn't set up for you there have been so many moments let's let's go back to school let's talk about some of that more in depth because I feel like a lot of people struggle at school but you kind of went through a lot of altercations and adversities at that time what were some of the things you were hearing some of the bullying some of the racism the experiences that you had that felt limiting or made it feel like it was easier to give up I think for me I mean school was the most probably the most traumatizing and diff most difficult part of my life wow um I already was being bullied at the age of six um I think at the time that particular school I was probably one of three kids of color and just bigger stronger bullying kids were throwing me around a lot of the time I was always the last picked in the you know when you're standing playground in your uh in the line of when they're picking teams for football I was always the last one chosen or not even chosen even if I was better than somebody else um and then the the constant Jabs the things that are either thrown at you like bananas or people that would use the m word just so relaxed um people calling you half cast and you know just really not knowing where you fit in that for me was difficult when you then go into like history class and everything you learn in history there are no people of color in the history that they were teaching us so I was thinking oh well where are the people that look like me and I mean for me in my school there was only around I think there was around seven maybe six seven black kids out of 1200 kids and three of us were else put outside the headmaster's office all the time the Headmaster just had it out for for us and particularly for me I would say so like just juggling all these different emotions that you're feeling plus I struggled at school I didn't find out till I was 16 that I was dyslexic fortunately I came across a teacher that was actually caring and um took me down that road and helped me discover a little bit more about myself and how I can better myself through education but um I think that for me was that was tough also because I was racing every weekend I would leave on the Thursday night we would travel you know pack up the motorhome we'll travel around the country to race on the weekends and no one else knew when I'd got back to school every all the kids have done normal things on the weekend and I'll come back and say I'm I was racing and people would be like oh I've done that before you know like at this at the theme park or something but no one really knew what my goal was and could really they thought we would maybe it was a joke you missed a lot of that social interaction also I was putting all the lowest sets at school and told that if you do well you can progress and then never ever let me progress no matter how hard I tried um so I really felt that the system was really up against me and I was kind of swimming against the tide but I'm so grateful for that that Journey because that's what built me to the person that I am today but there were a lot of things that I suppressed because I I couldn't go home and say hey to my I didn't feel I could go home and talk to my parents that you know these kids kept calling me them where today I got bullied I got beaten up at school today or I you know I wasn't able to defend myself I didn't want my dad to think I was not strong and so I'll you know if I had tears I would hold them back if I had emotions it would be in a quiet place and um it wasn't really till I started racing that I was able to channel this emotion that I had into my driving and it's like when I put this helmet on Superman was my favorite I loved how he fought for the people and I loved how he did the right things and he was a really inspiring character for me but again no superhero was of color so you know but you can still aspire to be someone that's if they don't look like you you know um and so I remember going to karate I remember putting this helmet on in racing and it felt like it was my cloak you know my superpowers had come out when I was driving and I was battling with these kids and I was doing able to do things that they seemed to not be able to do as well and that was my love wow yeah I mean it's my mind was opposite I was bullied a lot at school as well I was one of five people of color in my primary school and I was also overweight and so I was bullied for that and obviously you know my parents are from Indian backgrounds and so they'd gone through it much worse than I did when when they'd moved to England but the difference was that I would go cry to my mum and then my mum would come try and save the day in school and that was the worst that was so embarrassing like your mum's they're telling the teacher what happened and then I'm like oh no Mom don't do this and then it's even more embarrassing because the kids pick on you going oh mum came to say oh yeah yeah Mommy's right yeah so that that was my version of it I wasn't scared of crying to my mum but then it had it had different things but yeah that that's so hard as a kid when you're going through that and you're trying to find yourself you're trying to figure out what confidence is you don't even know what that means you feel like not going to school but then even though you're saying you found it in racing I mean racing was similar because you were working class you're still to this day the only working-class black driver to do as successfully as you have so not only do you have it at school you also have it in your passion like in the thing that is your cloak is your Superman so how does it feel when you're also dealing with it in that area where you've discovered what your passion or your interest is at that age what does it feel like when you're getting in that space it's inescapable you know you use that as an escape but then you're confronted with it also and so I was just grateful that I had this amazing figure in my dad you know I got a you know my best one of my best friends like his dad was never there I know there's not many people that have separated parents and and being shared between parents is not an easy thing um you know some days with your mom and some days we did that my my mum was the soft loving parent so that's where I really I feel like I learned a lot of compassion and empathy that's where I feel like I get it from her and my dad was at that strong like kind of stronger Rock and also just someone that looked like me on and just he would say do you talking on the track don't be distracted by it don't listen to what they're saying do your driving on track and show let's just be quiet and walk away as well as you know um so but you know again like your parents my parents went through well particularly my dad was someone that also face adversity through his life and he's like I want to do everything in my power to create a better life for my kid so that I don't feel or experience the things that I have encountered and through my through my journey and so but I think for me it was also difficult having biracial you know I'm biracial so having a white mother mother for example and a black dad I knew my dad would understand the racial slurs that I surrounded me my mum couldn't understand it so I couldn't really speak to my mum about it she was loving but she's never been educated within it she didn't know anything about black history and slavery and so it was a very difficult but but I had love there which was the most important thing yeah um but in the racing it was like you know like kids you just want to enjoy yourself you want to be included and you know when you're kind of outcast a little bit it's um it's difficult for kids you know and so that's why today like I'm like if I'm posting something I hope that when I do click that button I hope that it is a positive wave for some of the kids out there that are being distracted by all the stuff that's going on around the world yeah I mean I was I was telling you earlier I was so grateful came out to watch you in Austin a couple of weeks ago and got to meet your dad and I heard you talk about your dad in that way before and so when I met him I was it was I was just you know it's nice to share that with him and I was just saying how beautiful it is to see your relationship and and how it's evolved it's always been that way yeah yeah that's what I thought yeah yeah to walk us through whatever you feel my dad has been like the leader in getting me you know he had four jobs at one stage just to keep us go-karting because when we all started gokind most of the people were majority of the people were from working class families um so but then there are of course a few wealthier kids that have slightly better access to equipment and um mechanics and all those sorts of things and my dad was my mechanic so it was just me and him on the road and and my stepmom Linda um she would be there supporting um making sure that we're fully clothed making sure that we we've eaten and we're hydrated all those sorts of things for the weekend prepare my kid um so it was very much a family outing it was a family kind of um family weekend we did it as a family um we've traveled together my little brother would be on the road with us as well who's a major inspiration you've definitely got to speak to me one day um born with Cerebral Palsy um when I was seven and is a speaker today so he's and racing he's done he's defined all the odds and wow uh even though he's seven years younger than me still very much an inspiration but the thing with my dad was he was maybe he was my manager all the way till I was like 20 I got to we got to phone one and he was he worked so hard his work ethic for me was that that's was inspiring for me seeing how hard he worked the time he gets up in the morning the little sleep that he would have end of his day in the garage working on the go-kart preparing for the weekend packing up the track and getting us to where we are mechanicing learning to be a better mechanic and and still weighing all these different things it was quite phenomenal to see um but I think it was difficult for him to then show me love and sometimes you just want to hug from your dad you know or when you're facing these things you want to be able to be embraced but um when I think I got to when I was 22 23 it got really intense when I got to form one because all of a sudden you're thrown into you go through karting and cars you don't go to school to to learn to speak to the media you're literally thrown into the pit and at the time I didn't have management other than my dad my stepmom were booked flights and trips but um I didn't have PR I didn't have anybody to help protect me or prepare me for things driving I was good I would say but in these things is where a lot of mistakes happened um you've got the the kind of all the media attention and you have to so you're just learning on the go which was very difficult for a youngster I think yeah absolutely and and also I just you wanted to try and live some sort of normal normal life but nothing's normal for you at the time and the thing for me and my dad were just we're really bumping his at one stage it's like I really just want you to be my dad so we can let's go and have fun let's go and have a laugh but we hadn't had that for a long time and so um eventually I decided to sit part ways for my dad and I was like I'm gonna start making some of the decisions for myself and the mistakes that I'm gonna need to make and there was definitely a period of time where we spoke less um but we both have worked so hard to come back together and we have one of the greatest you know he's the first person I want to call when I finish a race um because I know he knows what it's like he was there from day one and so you know he's been to the last two races with me he's probably gonna come to the next one there's days where I do feel like I'm not enough there's days where I don't feel like I'm good enough and people be like yeah but you've won seven World titles anyway yeah but still there's days where I question no you still got it you still are you can you still be the best yes you can and so I have to just always I'm having that conversation with myself often but my dad's also there sometimes I'll say something that's maybe not the most positive and he'll be the one there just reaffirming no you've got this believe in yourself and it's so important for people to have people like that around them and I support myself I surround myself with other positive people as well and we continue I think it's all our job to lift every as many you know everyone up right I want everyone around me to win and yeah um and to become the best versions of themselves so no thank you for sharing that as well thank you for opening up about that because yeah I think the relationships we have with our parents are just so significant when it comes to achievement and success and when you start doing sport at your level even at an early age wins and losses starts becoming so important so win and loss is important in everyone's life in the sense that everyone has it in exams in school and things like that which we'll talk about in a second as well but for you you're having a in a very over way like you have one two three and then you have everyone else and and how have you kind of worked with that since you're young because I can imagine that your psychology can become very much like if you win things are great if you lose things are bad how have you kind of processed that as time's gone on and was there a time when it was unhealthy and difficult and has it got better or is it something you're always working on so on one side of things you know I struggled at school as I said so the teachers would write these reports that I was not focused or I wasn't doing well and and I remember the fear of that report every year and I try so hard to do well and then these teachers I don't know if teachers out there realize when they write those reports what's happening back at home whether you have an abusive uh household or you know the the stress of that was was difficult I feel embracing if I if I would win I could see a smile on my dad's face and it was really like okay if I do well at this I know that I'll be accepted you know um but I go to work double hard to be I've got to always be first I always laugh about the whole if you're not first you last because I'm literally whilst that's obviously I've not been fresh my whole life first was everything yeah um in order to be accepted in order to fit in and maybe to be appreciated um not only in within my relationship perhaps with my dad but then also around my friends and it was until I got older I realized it's about the bigger picture but when you have success it's so short-lived it's like it really is really short-lived you win a race then you go back home and you have big as a racing driver you know the weekend's so intense you've seen it there's so much energy so much it's really really in a stressful environment for everyone that's working within it then you go home and there's a huge come down like one or two days later and you're trying to balance those emotions that emotional rollercoaster um and learning to kind of channel that and figure out ways to keep it balanced whether with your routine and those sorts of things has been really key for me but I think during the last couple of last few years really understanding that it's about the bigger picture um I'm fighting for something far greater than winning a race I'm really fighting for changing the world you know we're more divided than ever I would say it's devastating I can't watch the news it's devastating every there's so much happening but there are so many great people out there that are doing really great things and I want to be one of I want to be a part of that [Music] inspirational energy bubble that people like yourselves are a part of um because we want to we need to create a brighter future we need to create better Future Leaders look how many look how bad our leaders are that are in governments you know like we need to be as part of the next generation of thought leaders um that are positive and um yeah so that's what I'm trying to be a part of every day I'm so I'm really trying to focus on my intentions as you're talking about like setting your intentions each day um I'm trying to learn new tools that I didn't have when I was a kid I didn't I didn't know about yoga I didn't know about meditation um I didn't have podcasts to listen to good people to listen to and aspire to kind of help me put on the right path so yeah um yeah we've got a lot of work to do there's almost not enough time here on this planet right we're here for such a short time really in the Scale of the Universe yeah but I think you're one of those people that you know and that's when we first connected that was one of the biggest reasons for me that I saw you using your platform for a bigger purpose I was like oh that's fascinating like that's so interesting to me because that's a choice too I think today we kind of assume that if someone has a platform or if someone's you know number one in their field or if someone's got followers that they should talk about stuff we kind of assume that anyone who has followers should talk about stuff first of all I don't think that's the case I think a lot of people choose not to uh but but you were someone that stood out to me massively where I was just like wow this person's really not just winning on on the track but it's thinking about how winning on the track transfers to what you can do off the track because of the influence because of your network because of your impact and I find that to be really The Missing Link for so many people because I always say that your purpose is something not just that makes you happy it's when you use what makes you happy to serve other people like when you use it to impact other people's lives when did that drop for you like when did that click for you like were you ever I guess what I'm trying to say is there's a transition when you're saying that well you know winning like maybe get the nod from my dad and obviously I was bullied and then I'm winning but then I'm number one at something like was there a point at which number one didn't satisfy you or was there a point at which the success that came from it or or you didn't actually have to get dissatisfied you just found that there was a better way to be successful does that make sense the parv that was striking when you're just saying that for me it was like I feel like we often live in fear of what people think um how you're going to be judged how you're going to be received if you you're free outspoken you're going to lose your job you're going to be fired I've always been a outspoken person I think that's just been a quality I've never been a follower um I don't like to conform to how people expect what people of what people expect from you as I said I was having a success and I was like okay now I'm on I'm at the top what can I do with it yeah and there are so many causes there's so many problems out there and there's so many so many amazing causes and which one you know there's only one of you so like what where do you put the focus and that's take it took a long long time to really find what that was for me I think for me education was something that I felt extremely passionate about because I I've been out to India I'd been out into some of the really poorest places like Manila and seeing young kids who are like us but begging for food and not having the same opportunities and for me that was that broke my heart and realized how privileged we are and how fortunate we are it was like I want to be working with people out there that are trying to create more you know there's over 100 million kids that don't have access to school or education so how can I get involved in that so align yourself with people that do but I think I was I was winning and it was giving me that tip of happiness but then I would kind of drop back down to normality and there was something missing and it was that purpose really or understanding what that purpose was and understanding what why you've been put here why are you beginning the platform that you've that you've been given why were the only you know only people of color this whole time through it all and when I started speaking about um diversity people like oh you want to get more people of coloring as as racing drivers only 20 of us so as I know it's this forty thousand forty fifty thousand jobs there's thousands of engineering jobs in the background and there's such a lack of diversity coming through I want to be a part of Shifting that narrative and shifting that conversation and having people be question themselves and have those difficult conversations with with people so I first I just started by having those difficult conversations with my boss and one of the things he brings up that he said that hit him hard I said have you ever thought of as a white person walking into the paddock into the race weekend Paddock and being the only white person there he's like he's like I hadn't even thought of that I said well that's what it's like for someone like me when I'm in the room you noticed you noticed that out of 50 people in a meeting you're the only person the black person there and it's not because we are less is because there are these barriers within Society through education that are limiting people to be the best they can be so my job is to be empowering and improving representation I'm really really passionate like black Equity as well so that's why I got involved with the Denver Broncos Denver Broncos yeah yeah and usually when I'm in conversation with sponsors or companies I'm like hey so what it how diverse is your team what are you doing about diversity inclusion how are you creating a better work workspace for people that's what I want to be a part of I the success can come later and that's that would be along the way but if you're not asking those questions or you're not tackling those issues then we're not blind yeah and so all them pretty much every partner that we have we have a lot of Partners within our team I've asked these really difficult questions and they're like oh you know what but we can do more I'm like well let's do it you know yeah so I think I've grown very close with my like Mercedes-Benz and Gamma they've been so open that we changed the car from Silver to Black in 2020. and as again I said to them like the car's been silver forever it's always been silver arrows and I was like imagine if we change the card to Black well that could you know us turning up and arriving is how you show up and it's how you know imagine the message we can send and we had the black car for the whole year and we didn't even really talk much about it we just let it be and we went with it and that's when I won myself with that car so that's beautiful now that must have felt special it was honestly my whole life flashed by my not that last lap in Turkey my whole life like all the struggles the questioning whether you were going to make it or not just all those doubts all those fears kind of flash by Me by you know through my eyes and came across the line and I was like I did it and I wanted the kids out there to know that you can do it too you know um so that's what I try and like every day just try to be encouraging of kitchen yeah yeah do you sometimes feel that we were talking about this a bit earlier that you know in other sports we get to see the emotions and the expressions of players that we love or you know anyone who's on the court or the field of the pitch whereas with you because we don't get to see that in your eyes in your last lap like that we can only hear it today which is why I'm so grateful to have this moment because I obviously whenever whenever I'm sit down with someone who's a high performer like you it's obvious that there's so much emotion and preparation and power but with racing specifically you just don't get to see that do you sometimes feel that the only people that can truly relate to you are the people you compete with because I feel like it's like you said there's only 20 of you that are racing anyway it's lonely anyway 99 of people in the world have no idea what it feels like to drive a car as fast as you do and the way you do in in any comparison do you sometimes feel that the only people you can relate to are the people that are racing against you and then do you kind of feel is there a loneliness in that experience or is that kind of like a power in that as well definitely the other drivers I do feel that there's more we have a lot more in common than we think but we're so competitive and a lot of us have our defense like you want to beat the guy but then you like the guy you might like the person outside the car but you can't show that like there's this whole psychological battle you're having with yourself and getting away of yourself a lot of the time so I really feel like as an older driver I'm trying to be more like reaching out to youngsters and um because they're the future you know um and I'm excited to see some of these young drivers are coming through are so so talented I don't know if they've got the best structure around them like I mean like I didn't necessarily have the ultimate structure that I perhaps have now so just try to be a kind of a positive light to them but naturally none of them are black and none of them have necessarily faced the same as me but they've faced their own challenges and and things about respecting that with within everybody and I've tried to be create allies necessarily like in having the difficult conversations with some of them I mean I'm so grateful for I've had a couple of them it really took the knee with me in 2020 um just on that you know my dad was going back to the house with my dad my dad like never let me cry as a kid he said there's a sign of weakness like don't let me ever see you shed a tear so I remember just holding back through those difficult times as a kid holding back most of that stuff in 2020 I cried I hadn't cried for at least I think at least 10 years maybe more it was there was a lot of bottled up stuff that came up that I had not realized that didn't even know about suppressing a pain or a feeling so I remember kind of bending on my knees thinking no what has happened in the world I've got to I've got to be outspoken I've got to take that chance because if I don't do it then no one's gonna do it if I don't if I don't take the knee if I don't let people like me know that I care and I hear you and I'm I'm with you and I'm going to do something about it I'm going to risk it all I don't care if my partners want to drop me because I want to be associated with this narrative I don't I'm like and I literally let go of all the fear and that's why I went came so forward with it and I know it's not easy for everyone to do that um but I just want to really and try to encourage people out there too to be themselves to speak out if they've got a problem if they're seeing something within the work working environment or experiencing something you gotta be outspoken about it and there's a right way to do it the first day I was going to take the knee I remember I didn't feel like I could tell my team I was like because I know I felt that they wouldn't understand how important it is for me to do this this day so I remember I had my black lives matter a shirt hidden and I just wore it out there and I I went ahead within so no one knew no one knew but every uh the sport had built and made all these t-shirts like um we race as one yeah slogan and they gave these t-shirts to all the to everybody I was like I'm not wearing that that's not what this is about and so this is what I'm doing and this was around George Floyd right yeah and afterwards my team were like well why don't you if you just told us we could have prepared a bit over I had this fear that they would try and stop me perhaps but that was just a fear um they've been massively supportive through the whole thing My Hope was that you know kids would be watching me like what it what it what is that why is he taking me what what does that shirt mean what is going on Dad Mom and then the parents being in an awkward position having to explain it maybe but I think what was really encouraging for me I think when we started really getting into the whole diversity inclusion we did the research there was only three percent out of two thousand people in the team as three percent diversity so since then we've been on this Mission the team have started new projects we've discovered that the the sport generally hires from one group of universities which is not diverse and if there are any young black students that go there they're twice as unlikely to be hired when they come out compared to their counterparts and also paid less exercises all these things that perhaps people didn't know that's the Hamilton commission right yeah yeah and that just was interesting to to experience that and now now we're working on like a diversity Charter that all the teams have to be a part of and it's not mine it's for the sport and it's to encourage those teams because there's still not any diversity within you know if you look at Ferrari they don't have hardly any there's most teams don't um but when I go back to my team to the factory normally in our marketing department wasn't very diverse initially and I walked in after the pandemic and I started seeing such a more diverse group of people I was really quite emotional because I was like oh my God there's I'm starting to see change but you don't see that on TV yeah so when I talk to the to the bosses of the sport I'm like hey you know there's all white men facing oh and and me facing the camera at the start of the race where are the women where are the people of color we've got to be showing some young kids are watching and they're like oh there's a place for me there I can be there I can be an engineer I can be a mechanic or whatever it may be and even for young girls oh I can be a racing driver or an engineer a strategist or whatever you know so representation's so so key to inspiring the young youth especially in these industries that they already have less access to right like that's the point that it's not just it's not just representation because you want them to even have the opportunity it's the fact that there's just no access point which is what you're trying to create I think what's what I find really beautiful about you doing it is you're doing it though when you're like I'm having all my emotions come up at the same time as trying to be a voice for other people and when you're saying like I'm I'm taking a knee because I know I have to make a stand externally but internally you're taking a knee because so much of your own stuff from years ago is coming back up like that must be quite hard when you're that's that strikes me as something that's really inspiring about what you did is that you were going through your own healing at the same time as trying to do healing for the world there is so much healing to do right and I was completely oblivious to that I needed healing I needed to really peel back some of those layers um I think for people that turn into tune into a race and you mentioned earlier on but when you we arrive everything's set up We There is work that we're doing in the background naturally people don't see they just see a show but there is an unbelievable amount of work that goes on in the background um when I talk to people that talk about how much weight you lose they're like yeah you just sit in the car and you drive um there's this huge psychological and emotional roller coaster that you're going through that it would be really hard for people to comprehend and you would mention about all these other athletes you see their faces in other sports you can't see because we've got helmet on but you go through this roller coaster ride in the race and then you get out and they the camera's right in your face you're not prepared for that your emotions are shot particularly if you failed or feel like you failed and you don't always answer the right way if you wear your your heart on your sleeve people that don't necessarily like that necessary always people take advantage of that so then you build up all these protection mechanisms and mechanisms that's not necessarily you and at the core but won't be the safest thing for you you know what I mean like I read something the other day about it's like three steps of you and there's one the one of which you present your uh who you present there's you and your who you are to you and your family and friends and then there's one the part of you the real you that no one ever gets to see and I think just today in today's world it's so vicious on social media it's the media can be you know can really tell you apart and you build up you know like you you make a mistake in something you say in the media and your ridicule Feud you never do it again so you build up and you go more and more in your shell and you become harder for people to really relate to but I think for me what I've realized in these last few years is really peeling back those layers and you know letting people know that I grew up in a council state I you know I've lived on the sofa with my uh my my parents we've had those struggles um the successful people out there you see they too have had those things where we need to show that young kids who are going through that same thing that oh I can if he can get there or they can get there then it must be possible for me too yeah um and like being showing you about vulnerability that's something that I really struggled to to to do for a long long time and um like today that's something I think I'm a lot more open than I've ever ever been yeah I'm not living in fear every day and that's like the most that's the most important thing I think for me personally I'm living a much happier life because I'm I'm a lot more open yeah it's liberating yeah absolutely yeah it's liberating when you finally feel like you're not trapped or you're hiding held or yeah or hiding yeah or hiding my favorite quotes is from my Angelo when she says we are all powerful beyond measure and that really hit home also for me that that's my favorite quote because and I have a tattooed because really we are so we do limit ourselves we get in our own way right along with the other things that get in our way but a lot of our fear stops us from driving forwards from progressing and that's why like I do the craziest things I jump out of planes yeah you've done what 80 jumps yeah like just just I love challenging myself and doing things even though there's maybe fear there but overcoming that fear is like it's the best feeling when you overcome it and you realize that she was all just a bunch of nonsense in your head I want to encourage so all my friends I'm like let's go and do this today they're like are you crazy my dad don't even think as a kid my dad was like is he really my son because I wouldn't do any of these things and even still today um I still find that he's actually done skydiving with my Dad yeah he said he would never do it but he did it so but driving 200 miles per hour is probably one of the scariest things that you do all the time like that's not for you anymore whatever things I've never had that fear yeah uh as a kid and I was just never you know I think if you go on a ski slope and you see these kids coming by the kids are generally Fearless right yeah but think as you go get older yes you start you hurt yourself a little bit you start protecting yourself more and more but I just don't have that I think I feel like that was something that just wasn't necessarily put in me I'm terrified of spiders yeah that's the only thing but I'm doing 200 miles an hour that's actually when I'm most at peace I would say yeah it's like I'm like flowing it's like my that's my element and that's why I like I love doing what I do it could be really really hard when I start racing I've been doing for 30 years I'm 37 I've been racing 30 years and when you stop like what what's gonna match that nothing's gonna have a probably a match being in the stadium or being at the race and being at the Pinnacle the sport being at the front of the greater or coming through the grid that motion that I get there when I do stop that will be a there'll be a big hole Yeah so I'm trying to generally focus on things find things that are going to replace that that will also be just as rewarding and that's like Mission 44 for me meeting kids at schools having these conversations with families and parents who clearly you're going through difficult times and want to create the best opportunity for their kids encouraging them they're like okay I've been there too look where I got so you can get there it's just got to work through it that's for me the that's way more rewarding than winning the race yeah so much more yeah that's I'm so grateful and I'm so happy that everyone's gonna getting to hear this I felt you're the only and I know you know you're talking about when that happens but it's brilliant that you're planning already because you can see how so many athletes mentally when they know their career has somewhat of a shelf life or a somewhat of a time span like it's so hot it's it just completely wrote but I remember you're reminding me of when I had the fortune of sitting down with Kobe Bryant and I said sat down with him when he'd already retired wow and I interviewed him oh so great I'm so jealous he was one of those people that was not upset being retired he loved it because he knew that his mission for him was to make these short movies and make all these uh Sports based content to inspire kids to tell their stories and to help them find better stories and so it's exactly what you're saying where he wasn't he's one of those people that I've met he was not sad about he was so happy he was so pumped that's what I'm working towards yeah because he he knew that he had a mission and he had a purpose and he'd gone and won an Oscar for a short movie that he'd made and you know he was creating content to inspire kids and that's where his heart was and of course watching his daughters play and so I'm super inspired by him yeah I know but yeah like when you said that that's what I remembered and and he was in the same boat he was like I always wanted to script right and never had time to script right he said I was always playing basketball and he goes but then I started script writing and I got a coach and then I was writing and getting better as a writer that's what I think when I've spoken to other athletes we focused so much on that being the best you can be and that one thing that the other things that you also love like if it's playing an instrument or if it's writing scripts like it all falls everything falls away and yeah um how can you come compartmentalize staying in the in the zone in the focus Lane but also building up some of those other skills and discovering other passions you know people's we've heard people tell LeBron shut up and dribble like yeah that's there there's a lot of people put you in the box and say this you can only do one thing but as I've seen and spoken to some people that are active and retired a lot of them say when particularly when they retire that they everything kind of fell apart like everything fell to the ground they had nothing to back it up with and they hadn't discovered what they're doing next so then they go through this emotional Journey um of of Discovery but it takes time so I'm like trying to learn from those things and applying them and find the other things that I'm passionate about so I generally feel today that I have lots of things in the pipeline that when I do stop it's gonna be like so grateful but I have something better that I'm moving on to yeah um but I I have no doubts that I oh me and my dad will always have to go to the go-kart track or something you know I'm always going to be competitive yeah I can't that's literally a strain in My DNA that's just never gonna gonna shift I'm competitive at everything I'm happy to hear that it's it's it's I'm sure that's refreshing it's great for people to also hear that even to inspire young people or Inspire anyone who's gone to a place in their career where they know that there's a certain moment where things are going to wind down but then they're going to transition I think I don't think we celebrate the transitions enough in life and life is made up of transition absolutely and people think that it's maybe less or something but it's yeah it's it's not about that yeah exactly so it's fascinating you found that what are some of these like you said like um you know I've been doing jumps I've been doing this with my friends what are some of the routines that you put into place to help you manage your mindset because I feel like you're you said that being at 200 miles per hour for the duration of a race is like being in flow for you that means you're extremely comfortable with your own thoughts extremely comfortable with being in a high stress high pressure environment but being just with your own self talk to us about how you I mean it sounds like that's always been the case but what have you done to become more and more comfortable with that yeah I think naturally this is the natural ability right but um I've been out of focus for an hour and 45 minutes without making mistakes and that's that's literally insane it's unbelievable dealing with the pressures um a friend actually asked me last night because I talk about we lose a lot of race a lot of weight in the race yes like sometimes you can lose up to 10 pounds like four kilos and people like whoa I need to be particularly in America they're like oh I need to be a racing driver um for the weight loss but this question is my friend asked me the other day that's like where does the where does the weight go like yeah because my suit doesn't because afterwards I weigh less but the I'm like so it must evaporate you somewhere so I've never got to figure out where all that weight actually truly goes because it obviously isn't in sweat but that's like messed my mind about um but the suit definitely is obviously a little bit heavier but um it's about gaining tools and I think as when I was younger I didn't have I knew how to arrive at the race I channeled the so this emotion that I had through whatever those difficulties were into my driving so it's laser focused like if you watch a video for me when I was five years old on Blue Pizza you'll see I'm just laser focused but um being able to control emotions being out to be calm and present staying centered there are loads of obviously different methods that people can use so things that I try to that I've started to incorporate over the years more in my life is things like stretching things like yoga and meditation has been a real that for me was something that I never thought that that I kind of turned a blind eye to it when I was younger I thought that's not gonna be helpful but being able to be sit still for a second and listen to the noises around you um and understand you want to tap into that kind of in a child or whatever it may be that's for me been taking that moment for yourself each day treating yourself with love and being kind to yourself you know because I think for a long time I wasn't kind to myself and that's been a process uh doing things that being purposeful and and having real certain intentions each day no matter how big or small and you know I wake up I'm looking in the mirror brushing your teeth then stop for a second sake this today's gonna be the day today's gonna be great um and no matter what you're faced with you know just whatever you come out with yeah yeah talking to yourself also speaking to people I think is very important I think as a kid as I said I didn't feel like I could speak to people I didn't feel like I could tell my mom about these experiences I felt embarrassed I couldn't tell my dad so I thought he would fulfill think less of me I couldn't talk to any of the teachers couldn't tell my most my friends most of them uh weren't particularly of color so but finding learning to be open and speak to people or find someone to speak to whether it's a therapist or whatever that's that's been a huge um help um I don't not necessarily have a therapist especially someone that I'm able to then just have shoot a with basically yeah um and confide in and Trust like trust has been something that I've never had done didn't trust anybody through those experiments I had as a kid and it's been very very hard to build trust with people but creating allies finding things that are that you have in common with people like my boss for example him and I just breaking each other down and then just having realizing that was similar in many many ways but also very different but that's not what should divide us we can then be allies and so that's why we're working on being the most diverse team we're working on pushing we have we've studied ignite which is about getting you know improving that pipeline of into motorsport for people um from underserved communities and there's so much work to do you're doing it though man I'm trying to I'm trying to and you know to the point you were asking earlier like has has enough been done absolutely not in the industry yes and like you don't feel that yeah and it's not only in either industry it's everywhere and is that your goal to sort in the industry and then expand out or you're starting you're starting across the board anyway yeah yeah that well with the team with where it's we started an organization which called ignite which we both fund and that is focused on the sport Motorsport in general but Mission 44 is focused on a much you know societal challenges and barriers and and education and um that's a focused in the UK at the moment but I want to bring that over to the states absolutely man um you know hopefully by at least 2024 um also just been to Africa and there is so much Beauty there and I really really want to have an imp you know really want to help there as well so yeah um we will continue to expand but we're one of the one of the few black founding non-profit organizations in UK and with um black CEO for example a very diverse group of people um and just having those conversations with people of just what a diverse Workforce means and how that bet can benefit you when you have people from different backgrounds all coming up with a diverse diverse thought and creation it's that's how you have more success yeah it's a no it's a no-brainer when you hear it and you're just like wow that makes so much sense and creativity is better and you you'd be able to come up with far more innovative ideas and you've got so many more cultures now being celebrated involved and I I feel like it's it's interesting to me that the world hasn't caught on with that yet like it's it's interesting that even despite there being progress there's not enough progress but what what is the block like what is the stop is it a mindset is it just habits and laziness like what is the actual like if you got to the core of it from everyone you've been speaking to like what are you what is the issue is the issue that yeah is the issue just laziness and just oh this is the way things have always been or is it or is there actually like a setup I don't have the answer to it I I ask that question all the time and I come up with lots of different theories in my mind um sometimes I'm like maybe people don't just don't care maybe people's problems are so big that they don't have time to focus on other things and it's hard enough just to do the thing that you're focused on or just overcoming the issue that you're overcoming so how am I gonna have more time to yeah to speak about these things why should I take the risk and risk my next step and so I feel like it's about learning to be selfless right and um which is difficult to do if you're not being loving yourself and not in a good place yeah so I think it all comes to us at hopefully a time at a certain point in our lives um but also you know we live in a time where like social media is so it's such a dangerous it's such a powerful tool but it's also can be so dangerous and so dividing and I see people out there today and there's people that I admire that I'm that that I would follow and I'd be like how they projecting something that's not necessarily healthy for you for people out there how are they projecting they're not using this platform to be more inspirational or be more positive and there's others that are but then I don't you can't judge because that's their Journey well you can continue to do is try to you know with that Maya Angelou quote it's about being shining your light as bright as you can possibly get it and hope that by doing it you I think you automatically uh encourage the people around you to want to do the same and I never truly understood that until I see the team that I work with how we all Inspire each other how with this year for example we've had the you know 2022 has been one of the hardest years for us as a team um as we didn't build a great car and we had our struggles as many people do and how we've had to all come closer and the relationship I've had with people that I've worked with this team for 10 years and there's conversations we've had this year people have opened up like they've never opened up before people have cried like it's been it's been beautiful to see yeah I feel like with some a far better team than we've ever been before because we're living with intention we're actually talking about impact that everyone in the team's gone and had diversity inclusion training no one's been kind of like I'm not I'm not going through that class why do I have to go and learn with diversity and inclusions about it I'm and why it doesn't impact me you know people like I understand it doesn't I wouldn't necessarily notice it but I want to understand it more so I can be better in my working environment it's been unbelievable that's amazing also leaders within our sport are now now where we are on a road to being a more diverse and more inclusive sport but I think my job is to continuously make sure that it that that same the effort that we're putting in now doesn't kind of fall away and become kind of you know just because it was um trending yeah yeah yeah that is actually something that's on the top of the list sustainability is on the top of our list and that real true core values we don't go out of our way well you know because a lot of people it's very easy to kind of be led by the money success but making sure you stick to your core values it's so true so important it goes back to what you said though that that's what real leaders do like leaders don't follow what's trending like leaders have focused on transformation and then they're dedicated to transformation and they're going to keep doing it until they see a change whereas followers follow Trends and oh it's not trending now it doesn't matter we'll focus on something else but you know obviously it's so clear just listening to you today and it's amazing Because unless I'm so glad I've had this opportunity to talk to you because I can hear just how deeply dedicated you are to this and how it's at your core it's like it's everything that comes out of your pores today is just you know which is which is really special to see a value being embodied like to empower other people you have to embody the value first it doesn't just you don't just go around empowering people and so to hear how your soul and heart is like completely a sponge for this stuff and then to wanting to go and share it with the world it's really remarkable man ah thank you yeah well I mean it's I've I'm by far perfect no yeah I know and I think that's like it's not about being perfect it's about just every day one step at a time trying to be better trying to do more yeah and um learning a lot about myself I've had to break myself down in order to be able to be better and what do you mean by breaking yourself down uh well just when you when I told you about like all those barriers you put up over time to protect yourself and then kind of like knocking those barriers down yes and it's enabled me to connect with more people it's enabled me to realize my place in the world and I don't feel like I don't belong anymore I feel like uh you know I've got a place and I've got a purpose and that's and I think a lot of people are struggling to find that purpose but it's okay you'll you will find it do not give up keep getting up you know like just keep saying those things to yourself and you will eventually find it and you know you're already living in your purpose and having such a huge impact on so many people you know telling stories which uh is it's amazing to see um I started this production company inspired by like Kobe and so many out there but stories for me storytelling I watch a lot of movies I don't know about you but yeah I love movies especially Sports movies yeah like when I go home I'll like I you know order takeaway or make myself some pasta or something like that and then I put the plate in front of me and I can't eat till I found something to watch like my my Escape is watching a movie and I always like to find something hopefully inspiring yes but what the reason I created this um production company is because you know until recently we didn't have any people of color are superheroes We I think these stories storytelling is so so important for people out there for inspiring people and and I want to make sure that in and everything that I do every project that I work on is with a diverse Workforce like I'm doing this from one movie with um Brad Pitt and Joe kazinski and um but my job is to make sure that it's diverse behind the camera as it is on screen the story is empowering and uplifting um it's not there's no BS in terms of the racing and hopefully one kid will watch it and yeah or more and feel empowered to go and do something great absolutely I love that man I'm so glad you're doing that because when you said do I like movies the movie that came to my mind was uh race have you seen race because yeah so like that the story is unbelievable but when you watch the movie as well it's unbelievable to see what Jesse Owens did like to think that he had to go I can't even imagine I can't you know you just can't imagine if everyone's not seen the movie you have to go see them yeah it's just one of those movies that's like how do you do that like how do you go and race in Nazi Germany like I have like I must have been terrified terrifying and you know there's been so many great stories like that that are out there that need telling yeah um continuously telling yeah 42 is another one yeah 42 is awesome um but yeah there is these really unique people out there I think for me being in this sport being the only one and being the first is that is that has been lonely yeah and that has been really really a difficult thing to kind of understand and and um through my life I know many many people like Jesse for example being the first and only at the time you know I've taken huge inspiration from him Nelson Mandela was like ah he's just one of my biggest biggest Inspirations um I was so so fortunate to get to meet him when I was I was like 23 or something oh wow what was that like yeah ah it was mind-blowing I mean when you when you then I got to form one and you have the success all these things come and you don't even you've dreamed of being a racing driver but you didn't dream that all the other things of all the other things that come along like meeting other unbelievable people I went to Nelson Mandela's 90th birthday in London and I was sat on his table in this huge room full of like Bill Clinton was there like uh Denzel Washington was there open Winfrey sat right next to me like all these people that you would never ever in the million years dream of think you would ever get to meet yeah and then you discover and they're also just human beings with feelings and with emotions and with their own challenges but I was so young at the time it was it was I don't even recognize myself when I look back at me seven years ago I see a shell of me and I think I look today and see myself and know myself so much more um and that's again that's an empowering experience to be in but yeah I went into the room and met him and he sat at his chair and it was like walking into I was like God or like a king you know and his silk shirt was his Aura was something you could see his Aura his smile he was beaming that was the most probably the most impactful day for me um as a youngster wow Lewis it's unbelievable talking to you I mean what you've achieved on the track off the track and now I'm even more excited to see you continue to achieve uh as your journey continues because I'm going to say this and I don't say this often and I genuinely my team can vouch for and everyone else can listen back to any episode I think you're one of the most on-purpose people I've ever interviewed and I appreciate that no and I genuinely like it just there's nothing else that comes from your being apart from what your purpose currently is with Mission 44 and and it's it's really remarkable to meet someone who's so on purpose I don't I genuinely don't have that experience and the only person you reminded me of was Kobe he had it too when I was around him there was no there's nothing else it wasn't like he missed anything he was at peace he was it was peace with purpose you know and you have that same Aura and spirit from from at least my experience thank you so much it's so kind of you yeah and I really mean that I really mean that it's incredible so uh we we end every episode with a Fast Five which means every question has to be answered in one word to one sentence maximum okay and we ask these same questions to every guest that's ever been on the show I should be prepared for that because I've seen you so well no the the first question is what's the best advice you've ever heard or received I think it was the achieve my dad uh never give up that's been like the slogan in the back of my mind every single day the other one would be um just that you'll always be learning and that's what I learned from Nelson Mandela he was like I'm 19 and I'm still learning today and like I was like what can you tell me it's like I'm still learning today and it's okay to be learning you're always going to be learning something new and growing yourself wow that's beautiful very like wow but like guys that was pretty basic but no but it's not it's it's powerful knowing he said that yeah as in the fact that he said that on his 90th birthday that is powerful because it's a long way to go yeah and it's like a lot of people I feel like a lot of people feel by 90 especially him he has so much wisdom to share yeah but the fact that his wisdom was I'm just learning that yeah I'm still learning that's pretty cool all right second question uh what's the worst advice you ever heard or received give up it's just the opposite yeah yeah literally the worst bit of advice and it wasn't I mean it wasn't necessarily advice but I when I was younger there was other parents of other racing drivers I was racing against I remember this one guy and he's like she just you just don't have it you should just give up their parents were saying their parents the grown man in these 40s or 50s told me that and I was eight told you told me yeah to my face and I remember just being so like what am I supposed to do with that what do you mean give up what was the reason I would imagine because I was beating his kid maybe I don't know I never really thought of what the reason would be and the same with teachers you know yeah what is this crap you know you're terrible at this you'll never know go to the next set you're never gonna amount to anything why are you even here I had a parent I had a teacher tell me that and wow it broke me down so much question number three uh how do you deal with loss and how do you deal with the win I think success is as I mentioned earlier short-lived success is there's a lot less learn in succ	speak to whether it's a therapist or whatever that's that's been a huge um help um I don't not necessarily have a therapist especially someone that I'm able to then just have shoot a with basically yeah um and confide in and Trust like trust has been something that I've never had done didn't trust anybody through those experiments I had as a kid and it's been very very hard to build trust with people but creating allies finding things that are that you have in common with people like my boss for example him and I just breaking each other down and then just having realizing that was similar in many many ways but also very different but that's not what should divide us we can then be allies and so that's why we're working on being the most diverse team we're working on pushing we have we've studied ignite which is about getting you know improving that pipeline of into motorsport for people um from underserved communities and there's so much work to do you're doing it though man I'm trying to I'm trying to and you know to the point you were asking earlier like has has enough been done absolutely not in the industry yes and like you don't feel that yeah and it's not only in either industry it's everywhere and is that your goal to sort in the industry and then expand out or you're starting you're starting across the board anyway yeah yeah	8	6	7	speak to whether it's a therapist or whatever that's that's been a huge um help um I don't not necessarily have a therapist especially someone that I'm able to then just have shoot a with basically yeah um and confide in and Trust like trust has been something that I've never had done didn't trust anybody through those experiments I had as a kid and it's been very very hard to build trust with people but creating allies finding things that are that you have in common with people like my boss for example him and I just breaking each other down and then just having realizing that was similar in many many ways but also very different but that's not what should divide us we can then be allies and so that's why we're working on being the most diverse team we're working on pushing we have we've studied ignite which is about getting you know improving that pipeline of into motorsport for people um from underserved communities and there's so much work to do you're doing it though man I'm trying to I'm trying to	you're doing it though man I'm trying to and you know to the point you were asking earlier like has has enough been done absolutely not in the industry yes and like you don't feel that yeah and it's not only in either industry it's everywhere and is that your goal to sort in the industry and then expand out or you're starting you're starting across the board anyway yeah yeah	6,4,8	8,6,9	6	4	8	8	6	9
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyiWKXTd9aY	4,235	AyiWKXTd9aY	2023-01-23 00:00:00	I think the easiest thing in life is to give up on whatever you know whatever you're focused on or whatever you're hopeful for the hardest thing is to keep going but we have to like we have to continue to hold on and I would imagine for so many people out there that is probably the most difficult thing the best-selling author and host the number one Health and Wellness podcast on purpose with Jay Shetty hey everyone welcome back to on purpose the number one Health podcast in the world thanks to each and every one of you that come back every week to listen learn and grow now I know that our community is dedicated to living happier healthier and more healed lives and I love sitting down with people who are dedicated to their own happiness their own health their own healing and doing that for the world through their work and I have to be honest it's not every day that you get to sit down with someone you admire you're inspired by you look up to and someone who is truly the definition of the word goat uh I'm talking about the one and only sir Lewis Hamilton seven time Formula One World Champion someone with over a hundred race wins considered the most successful F1 driver of all time and Lewis's willingness to embrace what makes him different has defined his values and outlook on life and in 2014 those values saw him win BBC's Sports personality of the Year followed two years later by a position in Time magazine's 100 most influential people list Lewis received both accolades for a second time in 2020 in a year that saw him become a leading voice in the global fight for racial equality in doing so he was recognized as British gq's Game Changer of the year and Powerless most influential black person in the UK and further to this Lewis won the 2020 glorious Sportsman of the Year award and most notably was formally recognized with a Knighthood in 2020 New Year's honors for his outstanding achievements and contribution to Motorsports on the track and off the track Lewis is also passionate activists for so many underrepresented groups and communities his mission 44 is doing incredible work please welcome to on purpose Lewis Hamilton Lewis thank you for being here thank you so much for having me no this honestly is a special one for me it's been one of those ones that you know when I first launched the podcast there were a few names that I wanted to sit down with and you were one of those names so for me it's a very special moment and for this to be your first ever podcast which you just told me I didn't even know and you literally told me this like 10 minutes ago and in my head I'm thinking wow thank I I'm so grateful to have that honor honestly honest mine I'm really so grateful for everything you do and so I've been following and listening to you and you sent me the book a long time ago already so I really appreciate everything you're doing today oh well thank you man thank you and I'm excited to unpack your journey because as we said because it's your first podcast people have heard parts of you but but we don't really understand the depth and the texture of of Lewis Hamilton and so I guess I want to start in a in a different place and we'll we'll kind of go through on this journey I wanted to ask you what do you feel is the hardest thing you've had to do in order to be who you are today I think continuing to have the belief in myself and not letting that Veer off since I was young since I've been told from my teachers that I would never amount to nothing The Bullying or the things that you face at the adversity you face the discrimination and just continue to keep your head up continuing to to march on ahead uh towards your dream and never lose inside now I think that's definitely for sure the most difficult thing is keeping keeping your goal and your eyes set on that and not being distracted um not giving up I think the easiest thing in life is to give up on whatever you know whatever you're focused on or whatever you're hopeful for the hardest thing is to continue to keep going but we have to like we have to continue to hold on and I would imagine for so many people out there that is that it that is probably the most difficult thing yeah I think that's a great answer because I think people look at you and they assume that you never have to make that choice right they see someone in your position someone who's achieved what you've achieved and the Assumption can be oh yeah but he's the greatest he was he was just always that way and he doesn't have to make that choice every day but as you said since the beginning of your life whether it's childhood whether it's breaking into a sport that wasn't set up for you there have been so many moments let's let's go back to school let's talk about some of that more in depth because I feel like a lot of people struggle at school but you kind of went through a lot of altercations and adversities at that time what were some of the things you were hearing some of the bullying some of the racism the experiences that you had that felt limiting or made it feel like it was easier to give up I think for me I mean school was the most probably the most traumatizing and diff most difficult part of my life wow um I already was being bullied at the age of six um I think at the time that particular school I was probably one of three kids of color and just bigger stronger bullying kids were throwing me around a lot of the time I was always the last picked in the you know when you're standing playground in your uh in the line of when they're picking teams for football I was always the last one chosen or not even chosen even if I was better than somebody else um and then the the constant Jabs the things that are either thrown at you like bananas or people that would use the m word just so relaxed um people calling you half cast and you know just really not knowing where you fit in that for me was difficult when you then go into like history class and everything you learn in history there are no people of color in the history that they were teaching us so I was thinking oh well where are the people that look like me and I mean for me in my school there was only around I think there was around seven maybe six seven black kids out of 1200 kids and three of us were else put outside the headmaster's office all the time the Headmaster just had it out for for us and particularly for me I would say so like just juggling all these different emotions that you're feeling plus I struggled at school I didn't find out till I was 16 that I was dyslexic fortunately I came across a teacher that was actually caring and um took me down that road and helped me discover a little bit more about myself and how I can better myself through education but um I think that for me was that was tough also because I was racing every weekend I would leave on the Thursday night we would travel you know pack up the motorhome we'll travel around the country to race on the weekends and no one else knew when I'd got back to school every all the kids have done normal things on the weekend and I'll come back and say I'm I was racing and people would be like oh I've done that before you know like at this at the theme park or something but no one really knew what my goal was and could really they thought we would maybe it was a joke you missed a lot of that social interaction also I was putting all the lowest sets at school and told that if you do well you can progress and then never ever let me progress no matter how hard I tried um so I really felt that the system was really up against me and I was kind of swimming against the tide but I'm so grateful for that that Journey because that's what built me to the person that I am today but there were a lot of things that I suppressed because I I couldn't go home and say hey to my I didn't feel I could go home and talk to my parents that you know these kids kept calling me them where today I got bullied I got beaten up at school today or I you know I wasn't able to defend myself I didn't want my dad to think I was not strong and so I'll you know if I had tears I would hold them back if I had emotions it would be in a quiet place and um it wasn't really till I started racing that I was able to channel this emotion that I had into my driving and it's like when I put this helmet on Superman was my favorite I loved how he fought for the people and I loved how he did the right things and he was a really inspiring character for me but again no superhero was of color so you know but you can still aspire to be someone that's if they don't look like you you know um and so I remember going to karate I remember putting this helmet on in racing and it felt like it was my cloak you know my superpowers had come out when I was driving and I was battling with these kids and I was doing able to do things that they seemed to not be able to do as well and that was my love wow yeah I mean it's my mind was opposite I was bullied a lot at school as well I was one of five people of color in my primary school and I was also overweight and so I was bullied for that and obviously you know my parents are from Indian backgrounds and so they'd gone through it much worse than I did when when they'd moved to England but the difference was that I would go cry to my mum and then my mum would come try and save the day in school and that was the worst that was so embarrassing like your mum's they're telling the teacher what happened and then I'm like oh no Mom don't do this and then it's even more embarrassing because the kids pick on you going oh mum came to say oh yeah yeah Mommy's right yeah so that that was my version of it I wasn't scared of crying to my mum but then it had it had different things but yeah that that's so hard as a kid when you're going through that and you're trying to find yourself you're trying to figure out what confidence is you don't even know what that means you feel like not going to school but then even though you're saying you found it in racing I mean racing was similar because you were working class you're still to this day the only working-class black driver to do as successfully as you have so not only do you have it at school you also have it in your passion like in the thing that is your cloak is your Superman so how does it feel when you're also dealing with it in that area where you've discovered what your passion or your interest is at that age what does it feel like when you're getting in that space it's inescapable you know you use that as an escape but then you're confronted with it also and so I was just grateful that I had this amazing figure in my dad you know I got a you know my best one of my best friends like his dad was never there I know there's not many people that have separated parents and and being shared between parents is not an easy thing um you know some days with your mom and some days we did that my my mum was the soft loving parent so that's where I really I feel like I learned a lot of compassion and empathy that's where I feel like I get it from her and my dad was at that strong like kind of stronger Rock and also just someone that looked like me on and just he would say do you talking on the track don't be distracted by it don't listen to what they're saying do your driving on track and show let's just be quiet and walk away as well as you know um so but you know again like your parents my parents went through well particularly my dad was someone that also face adversity through his life and he's like I want to do everything in my power to create a better life for my kid so that I don't feel or experience the things that I have encountered and through my through my journey and so but I think for me it was also difficult having biracial you know I'm biracial so having a white mother mother for example and a black dad I knew my dad would understand the racial slurs that I surrounded me my mum couldn't understand it so I couldn't really speak to my mum about it she was loving but she's never been educated within it she didn't know anything about black history and slavery and so it was a very difficult but but I had love there which was the most important thing yeah um but in the racing it was like you know like kids you just want to enjoy yourself you want to be included and you know when you're kind of outcast a little bit it's um it's difficult for kids you know and so that's why today like I'm like if I'm posting something I hope that when I do click that button I hope that it is a positive wave for some of the kids out there that are being distracted by all the stuff that's going on around the world yeah I mean I was I was telling you earlier I was so grateful came out to watch you in Austin a couple of weeks ago and got to meet your dad and I heard you talk about your dad in that way before and so when I met him I was it was I was just you know it's nice to share that with him and I was just saying how beautiful it is to see your relationship and and how it's evolved it's always been that way yeah yeah that's what I thought yeah yeah to walk us through whatever you feel my dad has been like the leader in getting me you know he had four jobs at one stage just to keep us go-karting because when we all started gokind most of the people were majority of the people were from working class families um so but then there are of course a few wealthier kids that have slightly better access to equipment and um mechanics and all those sorts of things and my dad was my mechanic so it was just me and him on the road and and my stepmom Linda um she would be there supporting um making sure that we're fully clothed making sure that we we've eaten and we're hydrated all those sorts of things for the weekend prepare my kid um so it was very much a family outing it was a family kind of um family weekend we did it as a family um we've traveled together my little brother would be on the road with us as well who's a major inspiration you've definitely got to speak to me one day um born with Cerebral Palsy um when I was seven and is a speaker today so he's and racing he's done he's defined all the odds and wow uh even though he's seven years younger than me still very much an inspiration but the thing with my dad was he was maybe he was my manager all the way till I was like 20 I got to we got to phone one and he was he worked so hard his work ethic for me was that that's was inspiring for me seeing how hard he worked the time he gets up in the morning the little sleep that he would have end of his day in the garage working on the go-kart preparing for the weekend packing up the track and getting us to where we are mechanicing learning to be a better mechanic and and still weighing all these different things it was quite phenomenal to see um but I think it was difficult for him to then show me love and sometimes you just want to hug from your dad you know or when you're facing these things you want to be able to be embraced but um when I think I got to when I was 22 23 it got really intense when I got to form one because all of a sudden you're thrown into you go through karting and cars you don't go to school to to learn to speak to the media you're literally thrown into the pit and at the time I didn't have management other than my dad my stepmom were booked flights and trips but um I didn't have PR I didn't have anybody to help protect me or prepare me for things driving I was good I would say but in these things is where a lot of mistakes happened um you've got the the kind of all the media attention and you have to so you're just learning on the go which was very difficult for a youngster I think yeah absolutely and and also I just you wanted to try and live some sort of normal normal life but nothing's normal for you at the time and the thing for me and my dad were just we're really bumping his at one stage it's like I really just want you to be my dad so we can let's go and have fun let's go and have a laugh but we hadn't had that for a long time and so um eventually I decided to sit part ways for my dad and I was like I'm gonna start making some of the decisions for myself and the mistakes that I'm gonna need to make and there was definitely a period of time where we spoke less um but we both have worked so hard to come back together and we have one of the greatest you know he's the first person I want to call when I finish a race um because I know he knows what it's like he was there from day one and so you know he's been to the last two races with me he's probably gonna come to the next one there's days where I do feel like I'm not enough there's days where I don't feel like I'm good enough and people be like yeah but you've won seven World titles anyway yeah but still there's days where I question no you still got it you still are you can you still be the best yes you can and so I have to just always I'm having that conversation with myself often but my dad's also there sometimes I'll say something that's maybe not the most positive and he'll be the one there just reaffirming no you've got this believe in yourself and it's so important for people to have people like that around them and I support myself I surround myself with other positive people as well and we continue I think it's all our job to lift every as many you know everyone up right I want everyone around me to win and yeah um and to become the best versions of themselves so no thank you for sharing that as well thank you for opening up about that because yeah I think the relationships we have with our parents are just so significant when it comes to achievement and success and when you start doing sport at your level even at an early age wins and losses starts becoming so important so win and loss is important in everyone's life in the sense that everyone has it in exams in school and things like that which we'll talk about in a second as well but for you you're having a in a very over way like you have one two three and then you have everyone else and and how have you kind of worked with that since you're young because I can imagine that your psychology can become very much like if you win things are great if you lose things are bad how have you kind of processed that as time's gone on and was there a time when it was unhealthy and difficult and has it got better or is it something you're always working on so on one side of things you know I struggled at school as I said so the teachers would write these reports that I was not focused or I wasn't doing well and and I remember the fear of that report every year and I try so hard to do well and then these teachers I don't know if teachers out there realize when they write those reports what's happening back at home whether you have an abusive uh household or you know the the stress of that was was difficult I feel embracing if I if I would win I could see a smile on my dad's face and it was really like okay if I do well at this I know that I'll be accepted you know um but I go to work double hard to be I've got to always be first I always laugh about the whole if you're not first you last because I'm literally whilst that's obviously I've not been fresh my whole life first was everything yeah um in order to be accepted in order to fit in and maybe to be appreciated um not only in within my relationship perhaps with my dad but then also around my friends and it was until I got older I realized it's about the bigger picture but when you have success it's so short-lived it's like it really is really short-lived you win a race then you go back home and you have big as a racing driver you know the weekend's so intense you've seen it there's so much energy so much it's really really in a stressful environment for everyone that's working within it then you go home and there's a huge come down like one or two days later and you're trying to balance those emotions that emotional rollercoaster um and learning to kind of channel that and figure out ways to keep it balanced whether with your routine and those sorts of things has been really key for me but I think during the last couple of last few years really understanding that it's about the bigger picture um I'm fighting for something far greater than winning a race I'm really fighting for changing the world you know we're more divided than ever I would say it's devastating I can't watch the news it's devastating every there's so much happening but there are so many great people out there that are doing really great things and I want to be one of I want to be a part of that [Music] inspirational energy bubble that people like yourselves are a part of um because we want to we need to create a brighter future we need to create better Future Leaders look how many look how bad our leaders are that are in governments you know like we need to be as part of the next generation of thought leaders um that are positive and um yeah so that's what I'm trying to be a part of every day I'm so I'm really trying to focus on my intentions as you're talking about like setting your intentions each day um I'm trying to learn new tools that I didn't have when I was a kid I didn't I didn't know about yoga I didn't know about meditation um I didn't have podcasts to listen to good people to listen to and aspire to kind of help me put on the right path so yeah um yeah we've got a lot of work to do there's almost not enough time here on this planet right we're here for such a short time really in the Scale of the Universe yeah but I think you're one of those people that you know and that's when we first connected that was one of the biggest reasons for me that I saw you using your platform for a bigger purpose I was like oh that's fascinating like that's so interesting to me because that's a choice too I think today we kind of assume that if someone has a platform or if someone's you know number one in their field or if someone's got followers that they should talk about stuff we kind of assume that anyone who has followers should talk about stuff first of all I don't think that's the case I think a lot of people choose not to uh but but you were someone that stood out to me massively where I was just like wow this person's really not just winning on on the track but it's thinking about how winning on the track transfers to what you can do off the track because of the influence because of your network because of your impact and I find that to be really The Missing Link for so many people because I always say that your purpose is something not just that makes you happy it's when you use what makes you happy to serve other people like when you use it to impact other people's lives when did that drop for you like when did that click for you like were you ever I guess what I'm trying to say is there's a transition when you're saying that well you know winning like maybe get the nod from my dad and obviously I was bullied and then I'm winning but then I'm number one at something like was there a point at which number one didn't satisfy you or was there a point at which the success that came from it or or you didn't actually have to get dissatisfied you just found that there was a better way to be successful does that make sense the parv that was striking when you're just saying that for me it was like I feel like we often live in fear of what people think um how you're going to be judged how you're going to be received if you you're free outspoken you're going to lose your job you're going to be fired I've always been a outspoken person I think that's just been a quality I've never been a follower um I don't like to conform to how people expect what people of what people expect from you as I said I was having a success and I was like okay now I'm on I'm at the top what can I do with it yeah and there are so many causes there's so many problems out there and there's so many so many amazing causes and which one you know there's only one of you so like what where do you put the focus and that's take it took a long long time to really find what that was for me I think for me education was something that I felt extremely passionate about because I I've been out to India I'd been out into some of the really poorest places like Manila and seeing young kids who are like us but begging for food and not having the same opportunities and for me that was that broke my heart and realized how privileged we are and how fortunate we are it was like I want to be working with people out there that are trying to create more you know there's over 100 million kids that don't have access to school or education so how can I get involved in that so align yourself with people that do but I think I was I was winning and it was giving me that tip of happiness but then I would kind of drop back down to normality and there was something missing and it was that purpose really or understanding what that purpose was and understanding what why you've been put here why are you beginning the platform that you've that you've been given why were the only you know only people of color this whole time through it all and when I started speaking about um diversity people like oh you want to get more people of coloring as as racing drivers only 20 of us so as I know it's this forty thousand forty fifty thousand jobs there's thousands of engineering jobs in the background and there's such a lack of diversity coming through I want to be a part of Shifting that narrative and shifting that conversation and having people be question themselves and have those difficult conversations with with people so I first I just started by having those difficult conversations with my boss and one of the things he brings up that he said that hit him hard I said have you ever thought of as a white person walking into the paddock into the race weekend Paddock and being the only white person there he's like he's like I hadn't even thought of that I said well that's what it's like for someone like me when I'm in the room you noticed you noticed that out of 50 people in a meeting you're the only person the black person there and it's not because we are less is because there are these barriers within Society through education that are limiting people to be the best they can be so my job is to be empowering and improving representation I'm really really passionate like black Equity as well so that's why I got involved with the Denver Broncos Denver Broncos yeah yeah and usually when I'm in conversation with sponsors or companies I'm like hey so what it how diverse is your team what are you doing about diversity inclusion how are you creating a better work workspace for people that's what I want to be a part of I the success can come later and that's that would be along the way but if you're not asking those questions or you're not tackling those issues then we're not blind yeah and so all them pretty much every partner that we have we have a lot of Partners within our team I've asked these really difficult questions and they're like oh you know what but we can do more I'm like well let's do it you know yeah so I think I've grown very close with my like Mercedes-Benz and Gamma they've been so open that we changed the car from Silver to Black in 2020. and as again I said to them like the car's been silver forever it's always been silver arrows and I was like imagine if we change the card to Black well that could you know us turning up and arriving is how you show up and it's how you know imagine the message we can send and we had the black car for the whole year and we didn't even really talk much about it we just let it be and we went with it and that's when I won myself with that car so that's beautiful now that must have felt special it was honestly my whole life flashed by my not that last lap in Turkey my whole life like all the struggles the questioning whether you were going to make it or not just all those doubts all those fears kind of flash by Me by you know through my eyes and came across the line and I was like I did it and I wanted the kids out there to know that you can do it too you know um so that's what I try and like every day just try to be encouraging of kitchen yeah yeah do you sometimes feel that we were talking about this a bit earlier that you know in other sports we get to see the emotions and the expressions of players that we love or you know anyone who's on the court or the field of the pitch whereas with you because we don't get to see that in your eyes in your last lap like that we can only hear it today which is why I'm so grateful to have this moment because I obviously whenever whenever I'm sit down with someone who's a high performer like you it's obvious that there's so much emotion and preparation and power but with racing specifically you just don't get to see that do you sometimes feel that the only people that can truly relate to you are the people you compete with because I feel like it's like you said there's only 20 of you that are racing anyway it's lonely anyway 99 of people in the world have no idea what it feels like to drive a car as fast as you do and the way you do in in any comparison do you sometimes feel that the only people you can relate to are the people that are racing against you and then do you kind of feel is there a loneliness in that experience or is that kind of like a power in that as well definitely the other drivers I do feel that there's more we have a lot more in common than we think but we're so competitive and a lot of us have our defense like you want to beat the guy but then you like the guy you might like the person outside the car but you can't show that like there's this whole psychological battle you're having with yourself and getting away of yourself a lot of the time so I really feel like as an older driver I'm trying to be more like reaching out to youngsters and um because they're the future you know um and I'm excited to see some of these young drivers are coming through are so so talented I don't know if they've got the best structure around them like I mean like I didn't necessarily have the ultimate structure that I perhaps have now so just try to be a kind of a positive light to them but naturally none of them are black and none of them have necessarily faced the same as me but they've faced their own challenges and and things about respecting that with within everybody and I've tried to be create allies necessarily like in having the difficult conversations with some of them I mean I'm so grateful for I've had a couple of them it really took the knee with me in 2020 um just on that you know my dad was going back to the house with my dad my dad like never let me cry as a kid he said there's a sign of weakness like don't let me ever see you shed a tear so I remember just holding back through those difficult times as a kid holding back most of that stuff in 2020 I cried I hadn't cried for at least I think at least 10 years maybe more it was there was a lot of bottled up stuff that came up that I had not realized that didn't even know about suppressing a pain or a feeling so I remember kind of bending on my knees thinking no what has happened in the world I've got to I've got to be outspoken I've got to take that chance because if I don't do it then no one's gonna do it if I don't if I don't take the knee if I don't let people like me know that I care and I hear you and I'm I'm with you and I'm going to do something about it I'm going to risk it all I don't care if my partners want to drop me because I want to be associated with this narrative I don't I'm like and I literally let go of all the fear and that's why I went came so forward with it and I know it's not easy for everyone to do that um but I just want to really and try to encourage people out there too to be themselves to speak out if they've got a problem if they're seeing something within the work working environment or experiencing something you gotta be outspoken about it and there's a right way to do it the first day I was going to take the knee I remember I didn't feel like I could tell my team I was like because I know I felt that they wouldn't understand how important it is for me to do this this day so I remember I had my black lives matter a shirt hidden and I just wore it out there and I I went ahead within so no one knew no one knew but every uh the sport had built and made all these t-shirts like um we race as one yeah slogan and they gave these t-shirts to all the to everybody I was like I'm not wearing that that's not what this is about and so this is what I'm doing and this was around George Floyd right yeah and afterwards my team were like well why don't you if you just told us we could have prepared a bit over I had this fear that they would try and stop me perhaps but that was just a fear um they've been massively supportive through the whole thing My Hope was that you know kids would be watching me like what it what it what is that why is he taking me what what does that shirt mean what is going on Dad Mom and then the parents being in an awkward position having to explain it maybe but I think what was really encouraging for me I think when we started really getting into the whole diversity inclusion we did the research there was only three percent out of two thousand people in the team as three percent diversity so since then we've been on this Mission the team have started new projects we've discovered that the the sport generally hires from one group of universities which is not diverse and if there are any young black students that go there they're twice as unlikely to be hired when they come out compared to their counterparts and also paid less exercises all these things that perhaps people didn't know that's the Hamilton commission right yeah yeah and that just was interesting to to experience that and now now we're working on like a diversity Charter that all the teams have to be a part of and it's not mine it's for the sport and it's to encourage those teams because there's still not any diversity within you know if you look at Ferrari they don't have hardly any there's most teams don't um but when I go back to my team to the factory normally in our marketing department wasn't very diverse initially and I walked in after the pandemic and I started seeing such a more diverse group of people I was really quite emotional because I was like oh my God there's I'm starting to see change but you don't see that on TV yeah so when I talk to the to the bosses of the sport I'm like hey you know there's all white men facing oh and and me facing the camera at the start of the race where are the women where are the people of color we've got to be showing some young kids are watching and they're like oh there's a place for me there I can be there I can be an engineer I can be a mechanic or whatever it may be and even for young girls oh I can be a racing driver or an engineer a strategist or whatever you know so representation's so so key to inspiring the young youth especially in these industries that they already have less access to right like that's the point that it's not just it's not just representation because you want them to even have the opportunity it's the fact that there's just no access point which is what you're trying to create I think what's what I find really beautiful about you doing it is you're doing it though when you're like I'm having all my emotions come up at the same time as trying to be a voice for other people and when you're saying like I'm I'm taking a knee because I know I have to make a stand externally but internally you're taking a knee because so much of your own stuff from years ago is coming back up like that must be quite hard when you're that's that strikes me as something that's really inspiring about what you did is that you were going through your own healing at the same time as trying to do healing for the world there is so much healing to do right and I was completely oblivious to that I needed healing I needed to really peel back some of those layers um I think for people that turn into tune into a race and you mentioned earlier on but when you we arrive everything's set up We There is work that we're doing in the background naturally people don't see they just see a show but there is an unbelievable amount of work that goes on in the background um when I talk to people that talk about how much weight you lose they're like yeah you just sit in the car and you drive um there's this huge psychological and emotional roller coaster that you're going through that it would be really hard for people to comprehend and you would mention about all these other athletes you see their faces in other sports you can't see because we've got helmet on but you go through this roller coaster ride in the race and then you get out and they the camera's right in your face you're not prepared for that your emotions are shot particularly if you failed or feel like you failed and you don't always answer the right way if you wear your your heart on your sleeve people that don't necessarily like that necessary always people take advantage of that so then you build up all these protection mechanisms and mechanisms that's not necessarily you and at the core but won't be the safest thing for you you know what I mean like I read something the other day about it's like three steps of you and there's one the one of which you present your uh who you present there's you and your who you are to you and your family and friends and then there's one the part of you the real you that no one ever gets to see and I think just today in today's world it's so vicious on social media it's the media can be you know can really tell you apart and you build up you know like you you make a mistake in something you say in the media and your ridicule Feud you never do it again so you build up and you go more and more in your shell and you become harder for people to really relate to but I think for me what I've realized in these last few years is really peeling back those layers and you know letting people know that I grew up in a council state I you know I've lived on the sofa with my uh my my parents we've had those struggles um the successful people out there you see they too have had those things where we need to show that young kids who are going through that same thing that oh I can if he can get there or they can get there then it must be possible for me too yeah um and like being showing you about vulnerability that's something that I really struggled to to to do for a long long time and um like today that's something I think I'm a lot more open than I've ever ever been yeah I'm not living in fear every day and that's like the most that's the most important thing I think for me personally I'm living a much happier life because I'm I'm a lot more open yeah it's liberating yeah absolutely yeah it's liberating when you finally feel like you're not trapped or you're hiding held or yeah or hiding yeah or hiding my favorite quotes is from my Angelo when she says we are all powerful beyond measure and that really hit home also for me that that's my favorite quote because and I have a tattooed because really we are so we do limit ourselves we get in our own way right along with the other things that get in our way but a lot of our fear stops us from driving forwards from progressing and that's why like I do the craziest things I jump out of planes yeah you've done what 80 jumps yeah like just just I love challenging myself and doing things even though there's maybe fear there but overcoming that fear is like it's the best feeling when you overcome it and you realize that she was all just a bunch of nonsense in your head I want to encourage so all my friends I'm like let's go and do this today they're like are you crazy my dad don't even think as a kid my dad was like is he really my son because I wouldn't do any of these things and even still today um I still find that he's actually done skydiving with my Dad yeah he said he would never do it but he did it so but driving 200 miles per hour is probably one of the scariest things that you do all the time like that's not for you anymore whatever things I've never had that fear yeah uh as a kid and I was just never you know I think if you go on a ski slope and you see these kids coming by the kids are generally Fearless right yeah but think as you go get older yes you start you hurt yourself a little bit you start protecting yourself more and more but I just don't have that I think I feel like that was something that just wasn't necessarily put in me I'm terrified of spiders yeah that's the only thing but I'm doing 200 miles an hour that's actually when I'm most at peace I would say yeah it's like I'm like flowing it's like my that's my element and that's why I like I love doing what I do it could be really really hard when I start racing I've been doing for 30 years I'm 37 I've been racing 30 years and when you stop like what what's gonna match that nothing's gonna have a probably a match being in the stadium or being at the race and being at the Pinnacle the sport being at the front of the greater or coming through the grid that motion that I get there when I do stop that will be a there'll be a big hole Yeah so I'm trying to generally focus on things find things that are going to replace that that will also be just as rewarding and that's like Mission 44 for me meeting kids at schools having these conversations with families and parents who clearly you're going through difficult times and want to create the best opportunity for their kids encouraging them they're like okay I've been there too look where I got so you can get there it's just got to work through it that's for me the that's way more rewarding than winning the race yeah so much more yeah that's I'm so grateful and I'm so happy that everyone's gonna getting to hear this I felt you're the only and I know you know you're talking about when that happens but it's brilliant that you're planning already because you can see how so many athletes mentally when they know their career has somewhat of a shelf life or a somewhat of a time span like it's so hot it's it just completely wrote but I remember you're reminding me of when I had the fortune of sitting down with Kobe Bryant and I said sat down with him when he'd already retired wow and I interviewed him oh so great I'm so jealous he was one of those people that was not upset being retired he loved it because he knew that his mission for him was to make these short movies and make all these uh Sports based content to inspire kids to tell their stories and to help them find better stories and so it's exactly what you're saying where he wasn't he's one of those people that I've met he was not sad about he was so happy he was so pumped that's what I'm working towards yeah because he he knew that he had a mission and he had a purpose and he'd gone and won an Oscar for a short movie that he'd made and you know he was creating content to inspire kids and that's where his heart was and of course watching his daughters play and so I'm super inspired by him yeah I know but yeah like when you said that that's what I remembered and and he was in the same boat he was like I always wanted to script right and never had time to script right he said I was always playing basketball and he goes but then I started script writing and I got a coach and then I was writing and getting better as a writer that's what I think when I've spoken to other athletes we focused so much on that being the best you can be and that one thing that the other things that you also love like if it's playing an instrument or if it's writing scripts like it all falls everything falls away and yeah um how can you come compartmentalize staying in the in the zone in the focus Lane but also building up some of those other skills and discovering other passions you know people's we've heard people tell LeBron shut up and dribble like yeah that's there there's a lot of people put you in the box and say this you can only do one thing but as I've seen and spoken to some people that are active and retired a lot of them say when particularly when they retire that they everything kind of fell apart like everything fell to the ground they had nothing to back it up with and they hadn't discovered what they're doing next so then they go through this emotional Journey um of of Discovery but it takes time so I'm like trying to learn from those things and applying them and find the other things that I'm passionate about so I generally feel today that I have lots of things in the pipeline that when I do stop it's gonna be like so grateful but I have something better that I'm moving on to yeah um but I I have no doubts that I oh me and my dad will always have to go to the go-kart track or something you know I'm always going to be competitive yeah I can't that's literally a strain in My DNA that's just never gonna gonna shift I'm competitive at everything I'm happy to hear that it's it's it's I'm sure that's refreshing it's great for people to also hear that even to inspire young people or Inspire anyone who's gone to a place in their career where they know that there's a certain moment where things are going to wind down but then they're going to transition I think I don't think we celebrate the transitions enough in life and life is made up of transition absolutely and people think that it's maybe less or something but it's yeah it's it's not about that yeah exactly so it's fascinating you found that what are some of these like you said like um you know I've been doing jumps I've been doing this with my friends what are some of the routines that you put into place to help you manage your mindset because I feel like you're you said that being at 200 miles per hour for the duration of a race is like being in flow for you that means you're extremely comfortable with your own thoughts extremely comfortable with being in a high stress high pressure environment but being just with your own self talk to us about how you I mean it sounds like that's always been the case but what have you done to become more and more comfortable with that yeah I think naturally this is the natural ability right but um I've been out of focus for an hour and 45 minutes without making mistakes and that's that's literally insane it's unbelievable dealing with the pressures um a friend actually asked me last night because I talk about we lose a lot of race a lot of weight in the race yes like sometimes you can lose up to 10 pounds like four kilos and people like whoa I need to be particularly in America they're like oh I need to be a racing driver um for the weight loss but this question is my friend asked me the other day that's like where does the where does the weight go like yeah because my suit doesn't because afterwards I weigh less but the I'm like so it must evaporate you somewhere so I've never got to figure out where all that weight actually truly goes because it obviously isn't in sweat but that's like messed my mind about um but the suit definitely is obviously a little bit heavier but um it's about gaining tools and I think as when I was younger I didn't have I knew how to arrive at the race I channeled the so this emotion that I had through whatever those difficulties were into my driving so it's laser focused like if you watch a video for me when I was five years old on Blue Pizza you'll see I'm just laser focused but um being able to control emotions being out to be calm and present staying centered there are loads of obviously different methods that people can use so things that I try to that I've started to incorporate over the years more in my life is things like stretching things like yoga and meditation has been a real that for me was something that I never thought that that I kind of turned a blind eye to it when I was younger I thought that's not gonna be helpful but being able to be sit still for a second and listen to the noises around you um and understand you want to tap into that kind of in a child or whatever it may be that's for me been taking that moment for yourself each day treating yourself with love and being kind to yourself you know because I think for a long time I wasn't kind to myself and that's been a process uh doing things that being purposeful and and having real certain intentions each day no matter how big or small and you know I wake up I'm looking in the mirror brushing your teeth then stop for a second sake this today's gonna be the day today's gonna be great um and no matter what you're faced with you know just whatever you come out with yeah yeah talking to yourself also speaking to people I think is very important I think as a kid as I said I didn't feel like I could speak to people I didn't feel like I could tell my mom about these experiences I felt embarrassed I couldn't tell my dad so I thought he would fulfill think less of me I couldn't talk to any of the teachers couldn't tell my most my friends most of them uh weren't particularly of color so but finding learning to be open and speak to people or find someone to speak to whether it's a therapist or whatever that's that's been a huge um help um I don't not necessarily have a therapist especially someone that I'm able to then just have shoot a with basically yeah um and confide in and Trust like trust has been something that I've never had done didn't trust anybody through those experiments I had as a kid and it's been very very hard to build trust with people but creating allies finding things that are that you have in common with people like my boss for example him and I just breaking each other down and then just having realizing that was similar in many many ways but also very different but that's not what should divide us we can then be allies and so that's why we're working on being the most diverse team we're working on pushing we have we've studied ignite which is about getting you know improving that pipeline of into motorsport for people um from underserved communities and there's so much work to do you're doing it though man I'm trying to I'm trying to and you know to the point you were asking earlier like has has enough been done absolutely not in the industry yes and like you don't feel that yeah and it's not only in either industry it's everywhere and is that your goal to sort in the industry and then expand out or you're starting you're starting across the board anyway yeah yeah that well with the team with where it's we started an organization which called ignite which we both fund and that is focused on the sport Motorsport in general but Mission 44 is focused on a much you know societal challenges and barriers and and education and um that's a focused in the UK at the moment but I want to bring that over to the states absolutely man um you know hopefully by at least 2024 um also just been to Africa and there is so much Beauty there and I really really want to have an imp you know really want to help there as well so yeah um we will continue to expand but we're one of the one of the few black founding non-profit organizations in UK and with um black CEO for example a very diverse group of people um and just having those conversations with people of just what a diverse Workforce means and how that bet can benefit you when you have people from different backgrounds all coming up with a diverse diverse thought and creation it's that's how you have more success yeah it's a no it's a no-brainer when you hear it and you're just like wow that makes so much sense and creativity is better and you you'd be able to come up with far more innovative ideas and you've got so many more cultures now being celebrated involved and I I feel like it's it's interesting to me that the world hasn't caught on with that yet like it's it's interesting that even despite there being progress there's not enough progress but what what is the block like what is the stop is it a mindset is it just habits and laziness like what is the actual like if you got to the core of it from everyone you've been speaking to like what are you what is the issue is the issue that yeah is the issue just laziness and just oh this is the way things have always been or is it or is there actually like a setup I don't have the answer to it I I ask that question all the time and I come up with lots of different theories in my mind um sometimes I'm like maybe people don't just don't care maybe people's problems are so big that they don't have time to focus on other things and it's hard enough just to do the thing that you're focused on or just overcoming the issue that you're overcoming so how am I gonna have more time to yeah to speak about these things why should I take the risk and risk my next step and so I feel like it's about learning to be selfless right and um which is difficult to do if you're not being loving yourself and not in a good place yeah so I think it all comes to us at hopefully a time at a certain point in our lives um but also you know we live in a time where like social media is so it's such a dangerous it's such a powerful tool but it's also can be so dangerous and so dividing and I see people out there today and there's people that I admire that I'm that that I would follow and I'd be like how they projecting something that's not necessarily healthy for you for people out there how are they projecting they're not using this platform to be more inspirational or be more positive and there's others that are but then I don't you can't judge because that's their Journey well you can continue to do is try to you know with that Maya Angelou quote it's about being shining your light as bright as you can possibly get it and hope that by doing it you I think you automatically uh encourage the people around you to want to do the same and I never truly understood that until I see the team that I work with how we all Inspire each other how with this year for example we've had the you know 2022 has been one of the hardest years for us as a team um as we didn't build a great car and we had our struggles as many people do and how we've had to all come closer and the relationship I've had with people that I've worked with this team for 10 years and there's conversations we've had this year people have opened up like they've never opened up before people have cried like it's been it's been beautiful to see yeah I feel like with some a far better team than we've ever been before because we're living with intention we're actually talking about impact that everyone in the team's gone and had diversity inclusion training no one's been kind of like I'm not I'm not going through that class why do I have to go and learn with diversity and inclusions about it I'm and why it doesn't impact me you know people like I understand it doesn't I wouldn't necessarily notice it but I want to understand it more so I can be better in my working environment it's been unbelievable that's amazing also leaders within our sport are now now where we are on a road to being a more diverse and more inclusive sport but I think my job is to continuously make sure that it that that same the effort that we're putting in now doesn't kind of fall away and become kind of you know just because it was um trending yeah yeah yeah that is actually something that's on the top of the list sustainability is on the top of our list and that real true core values we don't go out of our way well you know because a lot of people it's very easy to kind of be led by the money success but making sure you stick to your core values it's so true so important it goes back to what you said though that that's what real leaders do like leaders don't follow what's trending like leaders have focused on transformation and then they're dedicated to transformation and they're going to keep doing it until they see a change whereas followers follow Trends and oh it's not trending now it doesn't matter we'll focus on something else but you know obviously it's so clear just listening to you today and it's amazing Because unless I'm so glad I've had this opportunity to talk to you because I can hear just how deeply dedicated you are to this and how it's at your core it's like it's everything that comes out of your pores today is just you know which is which is really special to see a value being embodied like to empower other people you have to embody the value first it doesn't just you don't just go around empowering people and so to hear how your soul and heart is like completely a sponge for this stuff and then to wanting to go and share it with the world it's really remarkable man ah thank you yeah well I mean it's I've I'm by far perfect no yeah I know and I think that's like it's not about being perfect it's about just every day one step at a time trying to be better trying to do more yeah and um learning a lot about myself I've had to break myself down in order to be able to be better and what do you mean by breaking yourself down uh well just when you when I told you about like all those barriers you put up over time to protect yourself and then kind of like knocking those barriers down yes and it's enabled me to connect with more people it's enabled me to realize my place in the world and I don't feel like I don't belong anymore I feel like uh you know I've got a place and I've got a purpose and that's and I think a lot of people are struggling to find that purpose but it's okay you'll you will find it do not give up keep getting up you know like just keep saying those things to yourself and you will eventually find it and you know you're already living in your purpose and having such a huge impact on so many people you know telling stories which uh is it's amazing to see um I started this production company inspired by like Kobe and so many out there but stories for me storytelling I watch a lot of movies I don't know about you but yeah I love movies especially Sports movies yeah like when I go home I'll like I you know order takeaway or make myself some pasta or something like that and then I put the plate in front of me and I can't eat till I found something to watch like my my Escape is watching a movie and I always like to find something hopefully inspiring yes but what the reason I created this um production company is because you know until recently we didn't have any people of color are superheroes We I think these stories storytelling is so so important for people out there for inspiring people and and I want to make sure that in and everything that I do every project that I work on is with a diverse Workforce like I'm doing this from one movie with um Brad Pitt and Joe kazinski and um but my job is to make sure that it's diverse behind the camera as it is on screen the story is empowering and uplifting um it's not there's no BS in terms of the racing and hopefully one kid will watch it and yeah or more and feel empowered to go and do something great absolutely I love that man I'm so glad you're doing that because when you said do I like movies the movie that came to my mind was uh race have you seen race because yeah so like that the story is unbelievable but when you watch the movie as well it's unbelievable to see what Jesse Owens did like to think that he had to go I can't even imagine I can't you know you just can't imagine if everyone's not seen the movie you have to go see them yeah it's just one of those movies that's like how do you do that like how do you go and race in Nazi Germany like I have like I must have been terrified terrifying and you know there's been so many great stories like that that are out there that need telling yeah um continuously telling yeah 42 is another one yeah 42 is awesome um but yeah there is these really unique people out there I think for me being in this sport being the only one and being the first is that is that has been lonely yeah and that has been really really a difficult thing to kind of understand and and um through my life I know many many people like Jesse for example being the first and only at the time you know I've taken huge inspiration from him Nelson Mandela was like ah he's just one of my biggest biggest Inspirations um I was so so fortunate to get to meet him when I was I was like 23 or something oh wow what was that like yeah ah it was mind-blowing I mean when you when you then I got to form one and you have the success all these things come and you don't even you've dreamed of being a racing driver but you didn't dream that all the other things of all the other things that come along like meeting other unbelievable people I went to Nelson Mandela's 90th birthday in London and I was sat on his table in this huge room full of like Bill Clinton was there like uh Denzel Washington was there open Winfrey sat right next to me like all these people that you would never ever in the million years dream of think you would ever get to meet yeah and then you discover and they're also just human beings with feelings and with emotions and with their own challenges but I was so young at the time it was it was I don't even recognize myself when I look back at me seven years ago I see a shell of me and I think I look today and see myself and know myself so much more um and that's again that's an empowering experience to be in but yeah I went into the room and met him and he sat at his chair and it was like walking into I was like God or like a king you know and his silk shirt was his Aura was something you could see his Aura his smile he was beaming that was the most probably the most impactful day for me um as a youngster wow Lewis it's unbelievable talking to you I mean what you've achieved on the track off the track and now I'm even more excited to see you continue to achieve uh as your journey continues because I'm going to say this and I don't say this often and I genuinely my team can vouch for and everyone else can listen back to any episode I think you're one of the most on-purpose people I've ever interviewed and I appreciate that no and I genuinely like it just there's nothing else that comes from your being apart from what your purpose currently is with Mission 44 and and it's it's really remarkable to meet someone who's so on purpose I don't I genuinely don't have that experience and the only person you reminded me of was Kobe he had it too when I was around him there was no there's nothing else it wasn't like he missed anything he was at peace he was it was peace with purpose you know and you have that same Aura and spirit from from at least my experience thank you so much it's so kind of you yeah and I really mean that I really mean that it's incredible so uh we we end every episode with a Fast Five which means every question has to be answered in one word to one sentence maximum okay and we ask these same questions to every guest that's ever been on the show I should be prepared for that because I've seen you so well no the the first question is what's the best advice you've ever heard or received I think it was the achieve my dad uh never give up that's been like the slogan in the back of my mind every single day the other one would be um just that you'll always be learning and that's what I learned from Nelson Mandela he was like I'm 19 and I'm still learning today and like I was like what can you tell me it's like I'm still learning today and it's okay to be learning you're always going to be learning something new and growing yourself wow that's beautiful very like wow but like guys that was pretty basic but no but it's not it's it's powerful knowing he said that yeah as in the fact that he said that on his 90th birthday that is powerful because it's a long way to go yeah and it's like a lot of people I feel like a lot of people feel by 90 especially him he has so much wisdom to share yeah but the fact that his wisdom was I'm just learning that yeah I'm still learning that's pretty cool all right second question uh what's the worst advice you ever heard or received give up it's just the opposite yeah yeah literally the worst bit of advice and it wasn't I mean it wasn't necessarily advice but I when I was younger there was other parents of other racing drivers I was racing against I remember this one guy and he's like she just you just don't have it you should just give up their parents were saying their parents the grown man in these 40s or 50s told me that and I was eight told you told me yeah to my face and I remember just being so like what am I supposed to do with that what do you mean give up what was the reason I would imagine because I was beating his kid maybe I don't know I never really thought of what the reason would be and the same with teachers you know yeah what is this crap you know you're terrible at this you'll never know go to the next set you're never gonna amount to anything why are you even here I had a parent I had a teacher tell me that and wow it broke me down so much question number three uh how do you deal with loss and how do you deal with the win I think success is as I mentioned earlier short-lived success is there's a lot less learn in succ	sure you stick to your core values it's so true so important it goes back to what you said though that that's what real leaders do like leaders don't follow what's trending like leaders have focused on transformation and then they're dedicated to transformation and they're going to keep doing it until they see a change whereas followers follow Trends and oh it's not trending now it doesn't matter we'll focus on something else but you know obviously it's so clear just listening to you today and it's amazing Because unless I'm so glad I've had this opportunity to talk to you because I can hear just how deeply dedicated you are to this and how it's at your core it's like it's everything that comes out of your pores today is just you know which is which is really special to see a value being embodied like to empower other people you have to embody the value first it doesn't just you don't just go around empowering people and so to hear how your soul and heart is like completely a sponge for this stuff and then to wanting to go and share it with the world it's really remarkable man ah thank you yeah well I mean it's I've I'm by far perfect no yeah I know and I think that's like it's not about being perfect it's about just every day one step at a time trying to be better trying to do more yeah and um	10	8	8	sure you stick to your core values it's so true so important it goes back to what you said though that that's what real leaders do like leaders don't follow what's trending like leaders have focused on transformation and then they're dedicated to transformation and they're going to keep doing it until they see a change whereas followers follow Trends and oh it's not trending now it doesn't matter we'll focus on something else but you know obviously it's so clear just listening to you today and it's amazing Because Unless I'm so glad I've had this opportunity to talk to you because I can hear just how deeply dedicated you are to this and how it's at your core it's like it's everything that comes out of your pores today is just you know which is which is really special to see a value being embodied like to empower other people you have to embody the value first it doesn't just you don't just go around empowering people and so to hear how your soul and heart is like completely a sponge for this stuff and then to wanting to go and share it with the world it's really remarkable man ah thank you	yeah well I mean it's I've I'm by far perfect no yeah I know and I think that's like it's not about being perfect it's about just every day one step at a time trying to be better trying to do more yeah and um	8,6,9	5,2,6	8	6	9	5	2	6
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyiWKXTd9aY	4,235	AyiWKXTd9aY	2023-01-23 00:00:00	I think the easiest thing in life is to give up on whatever you know whatever you're focused on or whatever you're hopeful for the hardest thing is to keep going but we have to like we have to continue to hold on and I would imagine for so many people out there that is probably the most difficult thing the best-selling author and host the number one Health and Wellness podcast on purpose with Jay Shetty hey everyone welcome back to on purpose the number one Health podcast in the world thanks to each and every one of you that come back every week to listen learn and grow now I know that our community is dedicated to living happier healthier and more healed lives and I love sitting down with people who are dedicated to their own happiness their own health their own healing and doing that for the world through their work and I have to be honest it's not every day that you get to sit down with someone you admire you're inspired by you look up to and someone who is truly the definition of the word goat uh I'm talking about the one and only sir Lewis Hamilton seven time Formula One World Champion someone with over a hundred race wins considered the most successful F1 driver of all time and Lewis's willingness to embrace what makes him different has defined his values and outlook on life and in 2014 those values saw him win BBC's Sports personality of the Year followed two years later by a position in Time magazine's 100 most influential people list Lewis received both accolades for a second time in 2020 in a year that saw him become a leading voice in the global fight for racial equality in doing so he was recognized as British gq's Game Changer of the year and Powerless most influential black person in the UK and further to this Lewis won the 2020 glorious Sportsman of the Year award and most notably was formally recognized with a Knighthood in 2020 New Year's honors for his outstanding achievements and contribution to Motorsports on the track and off the track Lewis is also passionate activists for so many underrepresented groups and communities his mission 44 is doing incredible work please welcome to on purpose Lewis Hamilton Lewis thank you for being here thank you so much for having me no this honestly is a special one for me it's been one of those ones that you know when I first launched the podcast there were a few names that I wanted to sit down with and you were one of those names so for me it's a very special moment and for this to be your first ever podcast which you just told me I didn't even know and you literally told me this like 10 minutes ago and in my head I'm thinking wow thank I I'm so grateful to have that honor honestly honest mine I'm really so grateful for everything you do and so I've been following and listening to you and you sent me the book a long time ago already so I really appreciate everything you're doing today oh well thank you man thank you and I'm excited to unpack your journey because as we said because it's your first podcast people have heard parts of you but but we don't really understand the depth and the texture of of Lewis Hamilton and so I guess I want to start in a in a different place and we'll we'll kind of go through on this journey I wanted to ask you what do you feel is the hardest thing you've had to do in order to be who you are today I think continuing to have the belief in myself and not letting that Veer off since I was young since I've been told from my teachers that I would never amount to nothing The Bullying or the things that you face at the adversity you face the discrimination and just continue to keep your head up continuing to to march on ahead uh towards your dream and never lose inside now I think that's definitely for sure the most difficult thing is keeping keeping your goal and your eyes set on that and not being distracted um not giving up I think the easiest thing in life is to give up on whatever you know whatever you're focused on or whatever you're hopeful for the hardest thing is to continue to keep going but we have to like we have to continue to hold on and I would imagine for so many people out there that is that it that is probably the most difficult thing yeah I think that's a great answer because I think people look at you and they assume that you never have to make that choice right they see someone in your position someone who's achieved what you've achieved and the Assumption can be oh yeah but he's the greatest he was he was just always that way and he doesn't have to make that choice every day but as you said since the beginning of your life whether it's childhood whether it's breaking into a sport that wasn't set up for you there have been so many moments let's let's go back to school let's talk about some of that more in depth because I feel like a lot of people struggle at school but you kind of went through a lot of altercations and adversities at that time what were some of the things you were hearing some of the bullying some of the racism the experiences that you had that felt limiting or made it feel like it was easier to give up I think for me I mean school was the most probably the most traumatizing and diff most difficult part of my life wow um I already was being bullied at the age of six um I think at the time that particular school I was probably one of three kids of color and just bigger stronger bullying kids were throwing me around a lot of the time I was always the last picked in the you know when you're standing playground in your uh in the line of when they're picking teams for football I was always the last one chosen or not even chosen even if I was better than somebody else um and then the the constant Jabs the things that are either thrown at you like bananas or people that would use the m word just so relaxed um people calling you half cast and you know just really not knowing where you fit in that for me was difficult when you then go into like history class and everything you learn in history there are no people of color in the history that they were teaching us so I was thinking oh well where are the people that look like me and I mean for me in my school there was only around I think there was around seven maybe six seven black kids out of 1200 kids and three of us were else put outside the headmaster's office all the time the Headmaster just had it out for for us and particularly for me I would say so like just juggling all these different emotions that you're feeling plus I struggled at school I didn't find out till I was 16 that I was dyslexic fortunately I came across a teacher that was actually caring and um took me down that road and helped me discover a little bit more about myself and how I can better myself through education but um I think that for me was that was tough also because I was racing every weekend I would leave on the Thursday night we would travel you know pack up the motorhome we'll travel around the country to race on the weekends and no one else knew when I'd got back to school every all the kids have done normal things on the weekend and I'll come back and say I'm I was racing and people would be like oh I've done that before you know like at this at the theme park or something but no one really knew what my goal was and could really they thought we would maybe it was a joke you missed a lot of that social interaction also I was putting all the lowest sets at school and told that if you do well you can progress and then never ever let me progress no matter how hard I tried um so I really felt that the system was really up against me and I was kind of swimming against the tide but I'm so grateful for that that Journey because that's what built me to the person that I am today but there were a lot of things that I suppressed because I I couldn't go home and say hey to my I didn't feel I could go home and talk to my parents that you know these kids kept calling me them where today I got bullied I got beaten up at school today or I you know I wasn't able to defend myself I didn't want my dad to think I was not strong and so I'll you know if I had tears I would hold them back if I had emotions it would be in a quiet place and um it wasn't really till I started racing that I was able to channel this emotion that I had into my driving and it's like when I put this helmet on Superman was my favorite I loved how he fought for the people and I loved how he did the right things and he was a really inspiring character for me but again no superhero was of color so you know but you can still aspire to be someone that's if they don't look like you you know um and so I remember going to karate I remember putting this helmet on in racing and it felt like it was my cloak you know my superpowers had come out when I was driving and I was battling with these kids and I was doing able to do things that they seemed to not be able to do as well and that was my love wow yeah I mean it's my mind was opposite I was bullied a lot at school as well I was one of five people of color in my primary school and I was also overweight and so I was bullied for that and obviously you know my parents are from Indian backgrounds and so they'd gone through it much worse than I did when when they'd moved to England but the difference was that I would go cry to my mum and then my mum would come try and save the day in school and that was the worst that was so embarrassing like your mum's they're telling the teacher what happened and then I'm like oh no Mom don't do this and then it's even more embarrassing because the kids pick on you going oh mum came to say oh yeah yeah Mommy's right yeah so that that was my version of it I wasn't scared of crying to my mum but then it had it had different things but yeah that that's so hard as a kid when you're going through that and you're trying to find yourself you're trying to figure out what confidence is you don't even know what that means you feel like not going to school but then even though you're saying you found it in racing I mean racing was similar because you were working class you're still to this day the only working-class black driver to do as successfully as you have so not only do you have it at school you also have it in your passion like in the thing that is your cloak is your Superman so how does it feel when you're also dealing with it in that area where you've discovered what your passion or your interest is at that age what does it feel like when you're getting in that space it's inescapable you know you use that as an escape but then you're confronted with it also and so I was just grateful that I had this amazing figure in my dad you know I got a you know my best one of my best friends like his dad was never there I know there's not many people that have separated parents and and being shared between parents is not an easy thing um you know some days with your mom and some days we did that my my mum was the soft loving parent so that's where I really I feel like I learned a lot of compassion and empathy that's where I feel like I get it from her and my dad was at that strong like kind of stronger Rock and also just someone that looked like me on and just he would say do you talking on the track don't be distracted by it don't listen to what they're saying do your driving on track and show let's just be quiet and walk away as well as you know um so but you know again like your parents my parents went through well particularly my dad was someone that also face adversity through his life and he's like I want to do everything in my power to create a better life for my kid so that I don't feel or experience the things that I have encountered and through my through my journey and so but I think for me it was also difficult having biracial you know I'm biracial so having a white mother mother for example and a black dad I knew my dad would understand the racial slurs that I surrounded me my mum couldn't understand it so I couldn't really speak to my mum about it she was loving but she's never been educated within it she didn't know anything about black history and slavery and so it was a very difficult but but I had love there which was the most important thing yeah um but in the racing it was like you know like kids you just want to enjoy yourself you want to be included and you know when you're kind of outcast a little bit it's um it's difficult for kids you know and so that's why today like I'm like if I'm posting something I hope that when I do click that button I hope that it is a positive wave for some of the kids out there that are being distracted by all the stuff that's going on around the world yeah I mean I was I was telling you earlier I was so grateful came out to watch you in Austin a couple of weeks ago and got to meet your dad and I heard you talk about your dad in that way before and so when I met him I was it was I was just you know it's nice to share that with him and I was just saying how beautiful it is to see your relationship and and how it's evolved it's always been that way yeah yeah that's what I thought yeah yeah to walk us through whatever you feel my dad has been like the leader in getting me you know he had four jobs at one stage just to keep us go-karting because when we all started gokind most of the people were majority of the people were from working class families um so but then there are of course a few wealthier kids that have slightly better access to equipment and um mechanics and all those sorts of things and my dad was my mechanic so it was just me and him on the road and and my stepmom Linda um she would be there supporting um making sure that we're fully clothed making sure that we we've eaten and we're hydrated all those sorts of things for the weekend prepare my kid um so it was very much a family outing it was a family kind of um family weekend we did it as a family um we've traveled together my little brother would be on the road with us as well who's a major inspiration you've definitely got to speak to me one day um born with Cerebral Palsy um when I was seven and is a speaker today so he's and racing he's done he's defined all the odds and wow uh even though he's seven years younger than me still very much an inspiration but the thing with my dad was he was maybe he was my manager all the way till I was like 20 I got to we got to phone one and he was he worked so hard his work ethic for me was that that's was inspiring for me seeing how hard he worked the time he gets up in the morning the little sleep that he would have end of his day in the garage working on the go-kart preparing for the weekend packing up the track and getting us to where we are mechanicing learning to be a better mechanic and and still weighing all these different things it was quite phenomenal to see um but I think it was difficult for him to then show me love and sometimes you just want to hug from your dad you know or when you're facing these things you want to be able to be embraced but um when I think I got to when I was 22 23 it got really intense when I got to form one because all of a sudden you're thrown into you go through karting and cars you don't go to school to to learn to speak to the media you're literally thrown into the pit and at the time I didn't have management other than my dad my stepmom were booked flights and trips but um I didn't have PR I didn't have anybody to help protect me or prepare me for things driving I was good I would say but in these things is where a lot of mistakes happened um you've got the the kind of all the media attention and you have to so you're just learning on the go which was very difficult for a youngster I think yeah absolutely and and also I just you wanted to try and live some sort of normal normal life but nothing's normal for you at the time and the thing for me and my dad were just we're really bumping his at one stage it's like I really just want you to be my dad so we can let's go and have fun let's go and have a laugh but we hadn't had that for a long time and so um eventually I decided to sit part ways for my dad and I was like I'm gonna start making some of the decisions for myself and the mistakes that I'm gonna need to make and there was definitely a period of time where we spoke less um but we both have worked so hard to come back together and we have one of the greatest you know he's the first person I want to call when I finish a race um because I know he knows what it's like he was there from day one and so you know he's been to the last two races with me he's probably gonna come to the next one there's days where I do feel like I'm not enough there's days where I don't feel like I'm good enough and people be like yeah but you've won seven World titles anyway yeah but still there's days where I question no you still got it you still are you can you still be the best yes you can and so I have to just always I'm having that conversation with myself often but my dad's also there sometimes I'll say something that's maybe not the most positive and he'll be the one there just reaffirming no you've got this believe in yourself and it's so important for people to have people like that around them and I support myself I surround myself with other positive people as well and we continue I think it's all our job to lift every as many you know everyone up right I want everyone around me to win and yeah um and to become the best versions of themselves so no thank you for sharing that as well thank you for opening up about that because yeah I think the relationships we have with our parents are just so significant when it comes to achievement and success and when you start doing sport at your level even at an early age wins and losses starts becoming so important so win and loss is important in everyone's life in the sense that everyone has it in exams in school and things like that which we'll talk about in a second as well but for you you're having a in a very over way like you have one two three and then you have everyone else and and how have you kind of worked with that since you're young because I can imagine that your psychology can become very much like if you win things are great if you lose things are bad how have you kind of processed that as time's gone on and was there a time when it was unhealthy and difficult and has it got better or is it something you're always working on so on one side of things you know I struggled at school as I said so the teachers would write these reports that I was not focused or I wasn't doing well and and I remember the fear of that report every year and I try so hard to do well and then these teachers I don't know if teachers out there realize when they write those reports what's happening back at home whether you have an abusive uh household or you know the the stress of that was was difficult I feel embracing if I if I would win I could see a smile on my dad's face and it was really like okay if I do well at this I know that I'll be accepted you know um but I go to work double hard to be I've got to always be first I always laugh about the whole if you're not first you last because I'm literally whilst that's obviously I've not been fresh my whole life first was everything yeah um in order to be accepted in order to fit in and maybe to be appreciated um not only in within my relationship perhaps with my dad but then also around my friends and it was until I got older I realized it's about the bigger picture but when you have success it's so short-lived it's like it really is really short-lived you win a race then you go back home and you have big as a racing driver you know the weekend's so intense you've seen it there's so much energy so much it's really really in a stressful environment for everyone that's working within it then you go home and there's a huge come down like one or two days later and you're trying to balance those emotions that emotional rollercoaster um and learning to kind of channel that and figure out ways to keep it balanced whether with your routine and those sorts of things has been really key for me but I think during the last couple of last few years really understanding that it's about the bigger picture um I'm fighting for something far greater than winning a race I'm really fighting for changing the world you know we're more divided than ever I would say it's devastating I can't watch the news it's devastating every there's so much happening but there are so many great people out there that are doing really great things and I want to be one of I want to be a part of that [Music] inspirational energy bubble that people like yourselves are a part of um because we want to we need to create a brighter future we need to create better Future Leaders look how many look how bad our leaders are that are in governments you know like we need to be as part of the next generation of thought leaders um that are positive and um yeah so that's what I'm trying to be a part of every day I'm so I'm really trying to focus on my intentions as you're talking about like setting your intentions each day um I'm trying to learn new tools that I didn't have when I was a kid I didn't I didn't know about yoga I didn't know about meditation um I didn't have podcasts to listen to good people to listen to and aspire to kind of help me put on the right path so yeah um yeah we've got a lot of work to do there's almost not enough time here on this planet right we're here for such a short time really in the Scale of the Universe yeah but I think you're one of those people that you know and that's when we first connected that was one of the biggest reasons for me that I saw you using your platform for a bigger purpose I was like oh that's fascinating like that's so interesting to me because that's a choice too I think today we kind of assume that if someone has a platform or if someone's you know number one in their field or if someone's got followers that they should talk about stuff we kind of assume that anyone who has followers should talk about stuff first of all I don't think that's the case I think a lot of people choose not to uh but but you were someone that stood out to me massively where I was just like wow this person's really not just winning on on the track but it's thinking about how winning on the track transfers to what you can do off the track because of the influence because of your network because of your impact and I find that to be really The Missing Link for so many people because I always say that your purpose is something not just that makes you happy it's when you use what makes you happy to serve other people like when you use it to impact other people's lives when did that drop for you like when did that click for you like were you ever I guess what I'm trying to say is there's a transition when you're saying that well you know winning like maybe get the nod from my dad and obviously I was bullied and then I'm winning but then I'm number one at something like was there a point at which number one didn't satisfy you or was there a point at which the success that came from it or or you didn't actually have to get dissatisfied you just found that there was a better way to be successful does that make sense the parv that was striking when you're just saying that for me it was like I feel like we often live in fear of what people think um how you're going to be judged how you're going to be received if you you're free outspoken you're going to lose your job you're going to be fired I've always been a outspoken person I think that's just been a quality I've never been a follower um I don't like to conform to how people expect what people of what people expect from you as I said I was having a success and I was like okay now I'm on I'm at the top what can I do with it yeah and there are so many causes there's so many problems out there and there's so many so many amazing causes and which one you know there's only one of you so like what where do you put the focus and that's take it took a long long time to really find what that was for me I think for me education was something that I felt extremely passionate about because I I've been out to India I'd been out into some of the really poorest places like Manila and seeing young kids who are like us but begging for food and not having the same opportunities and for me that was that broke my heart and realized how privileged we are and how fortunate we are it was like I want to be working with people out there that are trying to create more you know there's over 100 million kids that don't have access to school or education so how can I get involved in that so align yourself with people that do but I think I was I was winning and it was giving me that tip of happiness but then I would kind of drop back down to normality and there was something missing and it was that purpose really or understanding what that purpose was and understanding what why you've been put here why are you beginning the platform that you've that you've been given why were the only you know only people of color this whole time through it all and when I started speaking about um diversity people like oh you want to get more people of coloring as as racing drivers only 20 of us so as I know it's this forty thousand forty fifty thousand jobs there's thousands of engineering jobs in the background and there's such a lack of diversity coming through I want to be a part of Shifting that narrative and shifting that conversation and having people be question themselves and have those difficult conversations with with people so I first I just started by having those difficult conversations with my boss and one of the things he brings up that he said that hit him hard I said have you ever thought of as a white person walking into the paddock into the race weekend Paddock and being the only white person there he's like he's like I hadn't even thought of that I said well that's what it's like for someone like me when I'm in the room you noticed you noticed that out of 50 people in a meeting you're the only person the black person there and it's not because we are less is because there are these barriers within Society through education that are limiting people to be the best they can be so my job is to be empowering and improving representation I'm really really passionate like black Equity as well so that's why I got involved with the Denver Broncos Denver Broncos yeah yeah and usually when I'm in conversation with sponsors or companies I'm like hey so what it how diverse is your team what are you doing about diversity inclusion how are you creating a better work workspace for people that's what I want to be a part of I the success can come later and that's that would be along the way but if you're not asking those questions or you're not tackling those issues then we're not blind yeah and so all them pretty much every partner that we have we have a lot of Partners within our team I've asked these really difficult questions and they're like oh you know what but we can do more I'm like well let's do it you know yeah so I think I've grown very close with my like Mercedes-Benz and Gamma they've been so open that we changed the car from Silver to Black in 2020. and as again I said to them like the car's been silver forever it's always been silver arrows and I was like imagine if we change the card to Black well that could you know us turning up and arriving is how you show up and it's how you know imagine the message we can send and we had the black car for the whole year and we didn't even really talk much about it we just let it be and we went with it and that's when I won myself with that car so that's beautiful now that must have felt special it was honestly my whole life flashed by my not that last lap in Turkey my whole life like all the struggles the questioning whether you were going to make it or not just all those doubts all those fears kind of flash by Me by you know through my eyes and came across the line and I was like I did it and I wanted the kids out there to know that you can do it too you know um so that's what I try and like every day just try to be encouraging of kitchen yeah yeah do you sometimes feel that we were talking about this a bit earlier that you know in other sports we get to see the emotions and the expressions of players that we love or you know anyone who's on the court or the field of the pitch whereas with you because we don't get to see that in your eyes in your last lap like that we can only hear it today which is why I'm so grateful to have this moment because I obviously whenever whenever I'm sit down with someone who's a high performer like you it's obvious that there's so much emotion and preparation and power but with racing specifically you just don't get to see that do you sometimes feel that the only people that can truly relate to you are the people you compete with because I feel like it's like you said there's only 20 of you that are racing anyway it's lonely anyway 99 of people in the world have no idea what it feels like to drive a car as fast as you do and the way you do in in any comparison do you sometimes feel that the only people you can relate to are the people that are racing against you and then do you kind of feel is there a loneliness in that experience or is that kind of like a power in that as well definitely the other drivers I do feel that there's more we have a lot more in common than we think but we're so competitive and a lot of us have our defense like you want to beat the guy but then you like the guy you might like the person outside the car but you can't show that like there's this whole psychological battle you're having with yourself and getting away of yourself a lot of the time so I really feel like as an older driver I'm trying to be more like reaching out to youngsters and um because they're the future you know um and I'm excited to see some of these young drivers are coming through are so so talented I don't know if they've got the best structure around them like I mean like I didn't necessarily have the ultimate structure that I perhaps have now so just try to be a kind of a positive light to them but naturally none of them are black and none of them have necessarily faced the same as me but they've faced their own challenges and and things about respecting that with within everybody and I've tried to be create allies necessarily like in having the difficult conversations with some of them I mean I'm so grateful for I've had a couple of them it really took the knee with me in 2020 um just on that you know my dad was going back to the house with my dad my dad like never let me cry as a kid he said there's a sign of weakness like don't let me ever see you shed a tear so I remember just holding back through those difficult times as a kid holding back most of that stuff in 2020 I cried I hadn't cried for at least I think at least 10 years maybe more it was there was a lot of bottled up stuff that came up that I had not realized that didn't even know about suppressing a pain or a feeling so I remember kind of bending on my knees thinking no what has happened in the world I've got to I've got to be outspoken I've got to take that chance because if I don't do it then no one's gonna do it if I don't if I don't take the knee if I don't let people like me know that I care and I hear you and I'm I'm with you and I'm going to do something about it I'm going to risk it all I don't care if my partners want to drop me because I want to be associated with this narrative I don't I'm like and I literally let go of all the fear and that's why I went came so forward with it and I know it's not easy for everyone to do that um but I just want to really and try to encourage people out there too to be themselves to speak out if they've got a problem if they're seeing something within the work working environment or experiencing something you gotta be outspoken about it and there's a right way to do it the first day I was going to take the knee I remember I didn't feel like I could tell my team I was like because I know I felt that they wouldn't understand how important it is for me to do this this day so I remember I had my black lives matter a shirt hidden and I just wore it out there and I I went ahead within so no one knew no one knew but every uh the sport had built and made all these t-shirts like um we race as one yeah slogan and they gave these t-shirts to all the to everybody I was like I'm not wearing that that's not what this is about and so this is what I'm doing and this was around George Floyd right yeah and afterwards my team were like well why don't you if you just told us we could have prepared a bit over I had this fear that they would try and stop me perhaps but that was just a fear um they've been massively supportive through the whole thing My Hope was that you know kids would be watching me like what it what it what is that why is he taking me what what does that shirt mean what is going on Dad Mom and then the parents being in an awkward position having to explain it maybe but I think what was really encouraging for me I think when we started really getting into the whole diversity inclusion we did the research there was only three percent out of two thousand people in the team as three percent diversity so since then we've been on this Mission the team have started new projects we've discovered that the the sport generally hires from one group of universities which is not diverse and if there are any young black students that go there they're twice as unlikely to be hired when they come out compared to their counterparts and also paid less exercises all these things that perhaps people didn't know that's the Hamilton commission right yeah yeah and that just was interesting to to experience that and now now we're working on like a diversity Charter that all the teams have to be a part of and it's not mine it's for the sport and it's to encourage those teams because there's still not any diversity within you know if you look at Ferrari they don't have hardly any there's most teams don't um but when I go back to my team to the factory normally in our marketing department wasn't very diverse initially and I walked in after the pandemic and I started seeing such a more diverse group of people I was really quite emotional because I was like oh my God there's I'm starting to see change but you don't see that on TV yeah so when I talk to the to the bosses of the sport I'm like hey you know there's all white men facing oh and and me facing the camera at the start of the race where are the women where are the people of color we've got to be showing some young kids are watching and they're like oh there's a place for me there I can be there I can be an engineer I can be a mechanic or whatever it may be and even for young girls oh I can be a racing driver or an engineer a strategist or whatever you know so representation's so so key to inspiring the young youth especially in these industries that they already have less access to right like that's the point that it's not just it's not just representation because you want them to even have the opportunity it's the fact that there's just no access point which is what you're trying to create I think what's what I find really beautiful about you doing it is you're doing it though when you're like I'm having all my emotions come up at the same time as trying to be a voice for other people and when you're saying like I'm I'm taking a knee because I know I have to make a stand externally but internally you're taking a knee because so much of your own stuff from years ago is coming back up like that must be quite hard when you're that's that strikes me as something that's really inspiring about what you did is that you were going through your own healing at the same time as trying to do healing for the world there is so much healing to do right and I was completely oblivious to that I needed healing I needed to really peel back some of those layers um I think for people that turn into tune into a race and you mentioned earlier on but when you we arrive everything's set up We There is work that we're doing in the background naturally people don't see they just see a show but there is an unbelievable amount of work that goes on in the background um when I talk to people that talk about how much weight you lose they're like yeah you just sit in the car and you drive um there's this huge psychological and emotional roller coaster that you're going through that it would be really hard for people to comprehend and you would mention about all these other athletes you see their faces in other sports you can't see because we've got helmet on but you go through this roller coaster ride in the race and then you get out and they the camera's right in your face you're not prepared for that your emotions are shot particularly if you failed or feel like you failed and you don't always answer the right way if you wear your your heart on your sleeve people that don't necessarily like that necessary always people take advantage of that so then you build up all these protection mechanisms and mechanisms that's not necessarily you and at the core but won't be the safest thing for you you know what I mean like I read something the other day about it's like three steps of you and there's one the one of which you present your uh who you present there's you and your who you are to you and your family and friends and then there's one the part of you the real you that no one ever gets to see and I think just today in today's world it's so vicious on social media it's the media can be you know can really tell you apart and you build up you know like you you make a mistake in something you say in the media and your ridicule Feud you never do it again so you build up and you go more and more in your shell and you become harder for people to really relate to but I think for me what I've realized in these last few years is really peeling back those layers and you know letting people know that I grew up in a council state I you know I've lived on the sofa with my uh my my parents we've had those struggles um the successful people out there you see they too have had those things where we need to show that young kids who are going through that same thing that oh I can if he can get there or they can get there then it must be possible for me too yeah um and like being showing you about vulnerability that's something that I really struggled to to to do for a long long time and um like today that's something I think I'm a lot more open than I've ever ever been yeah I'm not living in fear every day and that's like the most that's the most important thing I think for me personally I'm living a much happier life because I'm I'm a lot more open yeah it's liberating yeah absolutely yeah it's liberating when you finally feel like you're not trapped or you're hiding held or yeah or hiding yeah or hiding my favorite quotes is from my Angelo when she says we are all powerful beyond measure and that really hit home also for me that that's my favorite quote because and I have a tattooed because really we are so we do limit ourselves we get in our own way right along with the other things that get in our way but a lot of our fear stops us from driving forwards from progressing and that's why like I do the craziest things I jump out of planes yeah you've done what 80 jumps yeah like just just I love challenging myself and doing things even though there's maybe fear there but overcoming that fear is like it's the best feeling when you overcome it and you realize that she was all just a bunch of nonsense in your head I want to encourage so all my friends I'm like let's go and do this today they're like are you crazy my dad don't even think as a kid my dad was like is he really my son because I wouldn't do any of these things and even still today um I still find that he's actually done skydiving with my Dad yeah he said he would never do it but he did it so but driving 200 miles per hour is probably one of the scariest things that you do all the time like that's not for you anymore whatever things I've never had that fear yeah uh as a kid and I was just never you know I think if you go on a ski slope and you see these kids coming by the kids are generally Fearless right yeah but think as you go get older yes you start you hurt yourself a little bit you start protecting yourself more and more but I just don't have that I think I feel like that was something that just wasn't necessarily put in me I'm terrified of spiders yeah that's the only thing but I'm doing 200 miles an hour that's actually when I'm most at peace I would say yeah it's like I'm like flowing it's like my that's my element and that's why I like I love doing what I do it could be really really hard when I start racing I've been doing for 30 years I'm 37 I've been racing 30 years and when you stop like what what's gonna match that nothing's gonna have a probably a match being in the stadium or being at the race and being at the Pinnacle the sport being at the front of the greater or coming through the grid that motion that I get there when I do stop that will be a there'll be a big hole Yeah so I'm trying to generally focus on things find things that are going to replace that that will also be just as rewarding and that's like Mission 44 for me meeting kids at schools having these conversations with families and parents who clearly you're going through difficult times and want to create the best opportunity for their kids encouraging them they're like okay I've been there too look where I got so you can get there it's just got to work through it that's for me the that's way more rewarding than winning the race yeah so much more yeah that's I'm so grateful and I'm so happy that everyone's gonna getting to hear this I felt you're the only and I know you know you're talking about when that happens but it's brilliant that you're planning already because you can see how so many athletes mentally when they know their career has somewhat of a shelf life or a somewhat of a time span like it's so hot it's it just completely wrote but I remember you're reminding me of when I had the fortune of sitting down with Kobe Bryant and I said sat down with him when he'd already retired wow and I interviewed him oh so great I'm so jealous he was one of those people that was not upset being retired he loved it because he knew that his mission for him was to make these short movies and make all these uh Sports based content to inspire kids to tell their stories and to help them find better stories and so it's exactly what you're saying where he wasn't he's one of those people that I've met he was not sad about he was so happy he was so pumped that's what I'm working towards yeah because he he knew that he had a mission and he had a purpose and he'd gone and won an Oscar for a short movie that he'd made and you know he was creating content to inspire kids and that's where his heart was and of course watching his daughters play and so I'm super inspired by him yeah I know but yeah like when you said that that's what I remembered and and he was in the same boat he was like I always wanted to script right and never had time to script right he said I was always playing basketball and he goes but then I started script writing and I got a coach and then I was writing and getting better as a writer that's what I think when I've spoken to other athletes we focused so much on that being the best you can be and that one thing that the other things that you also love like if it's playing an instrument or if it's writing scripts like it all falls everything falls away and yeah um how can you come compartmentalize staying in the in the zone in the focus Lane but also building up some of those other skills and discovering other passions you know people's we've heard people tell LeBron shut up and dribble like yeah that's there there's a lot of people put you in the box and say this you can only do one thing but as I've seen and spoken to some people that are active and retired a lot of them say when particularly when they retire that they everything kind of fell apart like everything fell to the ground they had nothing to back it up with and they hadn't discovered what they're doing next so then they go through this emotional Journey um of of Discovery but it takes time so I'm like trying to learn from those things and applying them and find the other things that I'm passionate about so I generally feel today that I have lots of things in the pipeline that when I do stop it's gonna be like so grateful but I have something better that I'm moving on to yeah um but I I have no doubts that I oh me and my dad will always have to go to the go-kart track or something you know I'm always going to be competitive yeah I can't that's literally a strain in My DNA that's just never gonna gonna shift I'm competitive at everything I'm happy to hear that it's it's it's I'm sure that's refreshing it's great for people to also hear that even to inspire young people or Inspire anyone who's gone to a place in their career where they know that there's a certain moment where things are going to wind down but then they're going to transition I think I don't think we celebrate the transitions enough in life and life is made up of transition absolutely and people think that it's maybe less or something but it's yeah it's it's not about that yeah exactly so it's fascinating you found that what are some of these like you said like um you know I've been doing jumps I've been doing this with my friends what are some of the routines that you put into place to help you manage your mindset because I feel like you're you said that being at 200 miles per hour for the duration of a race is like being in flow for you that means you're extremely comfortable with your own thoughts extremely comfortable with being in a high stress high pressure environment but being just with your own self talk to us about how you I mean it sounds like that's always been the case but what have you done to become more and more comfortable with that yeah I think naturally this is the natural ability right but um I've been out of focus for an hour and 45 minutes without making mistakes and that's that's literally insane it's unbelievable dealing with the pressures um a friend actually asked me last night because I talk about we lose a lot of race a lot of weight in the race yes like sometimes you can lose up to 10 pounds like four kilos and people like whoa I need to be particularly in America they're like oh I need to be a racing driver um for the weight loss but this question is my friend asked me the other day that's like where does the where does the weight go like yeah because my suit doesn't because afterwards I weigh less but the I'm like so it must evaporate you somewhere so I've never got to figure out where all that weight actually truly goes because it obviously isn't in sweat but that's like messed my mind about um but the suit definitely is obviously a little bit heavier but um it's about gaining tools and I think as when I was younger I didn't have I knew how to arrive at the race I channeled the so this emotion that I had through whatever those difficulties were into my driving so it's laser focused like if you watch a video for me when I was five years old on Blue Pizza you'll see I'm just laser focused but um being able to control emotions being out to be calm and present staying centered there are loads of obviously different methods that people can use so things that I try to that I've started to incorporate over the years more in my life is things like stretching things like yoga and meditation has been a real that for me was something that I never thought that that I kind of turned a blind eye to it when I was younger I thought that's not gonna be helpful but being able to be sit still for a second and listen to the noises around you um and understand you want to tap into that kind of in a child or whatever it may be that's for me been taking that moment for yourself each day treating yourself with love and being kind to yourself you know because I think for a long time I wasn't kind to myself and that's been a process uh doing things that being purposeful and and having real certain intentions each day no matter how big or small and you know I wake up I'm looking in the mirror brushing your teeth then stop for a second sake this today's gonna be the day today's gonna be great um and no matter what you're faced with you know just whatever you come out with yeah yeah talking to yourself also speaking to people I think is very important I think as a kid as I said I didn't feel like I could speak to people I didn't feel like I could tell my mom about these experiences I felt embarrassed I couldn't tell my dad so I thought he would fulfill think less of me I couldn't talk to any of the teachers couldn't tell my most my friends most of them uh weren't particularly of color so but finding learning to be open and speak to people or find someone to speak to whether it's a therapist or whatever that's that's been a huge um help um I don't not necessarily have a therapist especially someone that I'm able to then just have shoot a with basically yeah um and confide in and Trust like trust has been something that I've never had done didn't trust anybody through those experiments I had as a kid and it's been very very hard to build trust with people but creating allies finding things that are that you have in common with people like my boss for example him and I just breaking each other down and then just having realizing that was similar in many many ways but also very different but that's not what should divide us we can then be allies and so that's why we're working on being the most diverse team we're working on pushing we have we've studied ignite which is about getting you know improving that pipeline of into motorsport for people um from underserved communities and there's so much work to do you're doing it though man I'm trying to I'm trying to and you know to the point you were asking earlier like has has enough been done absolutely not in the industry yes and like you don't feel that yeah and it's not only in either industry it's everywhere and is that your goal to sort in the industry and then expand out or you're starting you're starting across the board anyway yeah yeah that well with the team with where it's we started an organization which called ignite which we both fund and that is focused on the sport Motorsport in general but Mission 44 is focused on a much you know societal challenges and barriers and and education and um that's a focused in the UK at the moment but I want to bring that over to the states absolutely man um you know hopefully by at least 2024 um also just been to Africa and there is so much Beauty there and I really really want to have an imp you know really want to help there as well so yeah um we will continue to expand but we're one of the one of the few black founding non-profit organizations in UK and with um black CEO for example a very diverse group of people um and just having those conversations with people of just what a diverse Workforce means and how that bet can benefit you when you have people from different backgrounds all coming up with a diverse diverse thought and creation it's that's how you have more success yeah it's a no it's a no-brainer when you hear it and you're just like wow that makes so much sense and creativity is better and you you'd be able to come up with far more innovative ideas and you've got so many more cultures now being celebrated involved and I I feel like it's it's interesting to me that the world hasn't caught on with that yet like it's it's interesting that even despite there being progress there's not enough progress but what what is the block like what is the stop is it a mindset is it just habits and laziness like what is the actual like if you got to the core of it from everyone you've been speaking to like what are you what is the issue is the issue that yeah is the issue just laziness and just oh this is the way things have always been or is it or is there actually like a setup I don't have the answer to it I I ask that question all the time and I come up with lots of different theories in my mind um sometimes I'm like maybe people don't just don't care maybe people's problems are so big that they don't have time to focus on other things and it's hard enough just to do the thing that you're focused on or just overcoming the issue that you're overcoming so how am I gonna have more time to yeah to speak about these things why should I take the risk and risk my next step and so I feel like it's about learning to be selfless right and um which is difficult to do if you're not being loving yourself and not in a good place yeah so I think it all comes to us at hopefully a time at a certain point in our lives um but also you know we live in a time where like social media is so it's such a dangerous it's such a powerful tool but it's also can be so dangerous and so dividing and I see people out there today and there's people that I admire that I'm that that I would follow and I'd be like how they projecting something that's not necessarily healthy for you for people out there how are they projecting they're not using this platform to be more inspirational or be more positive and there's others that are but then I don't you can't judge because that's their Journey well you can continue to do is try to you know with that Maya Angelou quote it's about being shining your light as bright as you can possibly get it and hope that by doing it you I think you automatically uh encourage the people around you to want to do the same and I never truly understood that until I see the team that I work with how we all Inspire each other how with this year for example we've had the you know 2022 has been one of the hardest years for us as a team um as we didn't build a great car and we had our struggles as many people do and how we've had to all come closer and the relationship I've had with people that I've worked with this team for 10 years and there's conversations we've had this year people have opened up like they've never opened up before people have cried like it's been it's been beautiful to see yeah I feel like with some a far better team than we've ever been before because we're living with intention we're actually talking about impact that everyone in the team's gone and had diversity inclusion training no one's been kind of like I'm not I'm not going through that class why do I have to go and learn with diversity and inclusions about it I'm and why it doesn't impact me you know people like I understand it doesn't I wouldn't necessarily notice it but I want to understand it more so I can be better in my working environment it's been unbelievable that's amazing also leaders within our sport are now now where we are on a road to being a more diverse and more inclusive sport but I think my job is to continuously make sure that it that that same the effort that we're putting in now doesn't kind of fall away and become kind of you know just because it was um trending yeah yeah yeah that is actually something that's on the top of the list sustainability is on the top of our list and that real true core values we don't go out of our way well you know because a lot of people it's very easy to kind of be led by the money success but making sure you stick to your core values it's so true so important it goes back to what you said though that that's what real leaders do like leaders don't follow what's trending like leaders have focused on transformation and then they're dedicated to transformation and they're going to keep doing it until they see a change whereas followers follow Trends and oh it's not trending now it doesn't matter we'll focus on something else but you know obviously it's so clear just listening to you today and it's amazing Because unless I'm so glad I've had this opportunity to talk to you because I can hear just how deeply dedicated you are to this and how it's at your core it's like it's everything that comes out of your pores today is just you know which is which is really special to see a value being embodied like to empower other people you have to embody the value first it doesn't just you don't just go around empowering people and so to hear how your soul and heart is like completely a sponge for this stuff and then to wanting to go and share it with the world it's really remarkable man ah thank you yeah well I mean it's I've I'm by far perfect no yeah I know and I think that's like it's not about being perfect it's about just every day one step at a time trying to be better trying to do more yeah and um learning a lot about myself I've had to break myself down in order to be able to be better and what do you mean by breaking yourself down uh well just when you when I told you about like all those barriers you put up over time to protect yourself and then kind of like knocking those barriers down yes and it's enabled me to connect with more people it's enabled me to realize my place in the world and I don't feel like I don't belong anymore I feel like uh you know I've got a place and I've got a purpose and that's and I think a lot of people are struggling to find that purpose but it's okay you'll you will find it do not give up keep getting up you know like just keep saying those things to yourself and you will eventually find it and you know you're already living in your purpose and having such a huge impact on so many people you know telling stories which uh is it's amazing to see um I started this production company inspired by like Kobe and so many out there but stories for me storytelling I watch a lot of movies I don't know about you but yeah I love movies especially Sports movies yeah like when I go home I'll like I you know order takeaway or make myself some pasta or something like that and then I put the plate in front of me and I can't eat till I found something to watch like my my Escape is watching a movie and I always like to find something hopefully inspiring yes but what the reason I created this um production company is because you know until recently we didn't have any people of color are superheroes We I think these stories storytelling is so so important for people out there for inspiring people and and I want to make sure that in and everything that I do every project that I work on is with a diverse Workforce like I'm doing this from one movie with um Brad Pitt and Joe kazinski and um but my job is to make sure that it's diverse behind the camera as it is on screen the story is empowering and uplifting um it's not there's no BS in terms of the racing and hopefully one kid will watch it and yeah or more and feel empowered to go and do something great absolutely I love that man I'm so glad you're doing that because when you said do I like movies the movie that came to my mind was uh race have you seen race because yeah so like that the story is unbelievable but when you watch the movie as well it's unbelievable to see what Jesse Owens did like to think that he had to go I can't even imagine I can't you know you just can't imagine if everyone's not seen the movie you have to go see them yeah it's just one of those movies that's like how do you do that like how do you go and race in Nazi Germany like I have like I must have been terrified terrifying and you know there's been so many great stories like that that are out there that need telling yeah um continuously telling yeah 42 is another one yeah 42 is awesome um but yeah there is these really unique people out there I think for me being in this sport being the only one and being the first is that is that has been lonely yeah and that has been really really a difficult thing to kind of understand and and um through my life I know many many people like Jesse for example being the first and only at the time you know I've taken huge inspiration from him Nelson Mandela was like ah he's just one of my biggest biggest Inspirations um I was so so fortunate to get to meet him when I was I was like 23 or something oh wow what was that like yeah ah it was mind-blowing I mean when you when you then I got to form one and you have the success all these things come and you don't even you've dreamed of being a racing driver but you didn't dream that all the other things of all the other things that come along like meeting other unbelievable people I went to Nelson Mandela's 90th birthday in London and I was sat on his table in this huge room full of like Bill Clinton was there like uh Denzel Washington was there open Winfrey sat right next to me like all these people that you would never ever in the million years dream of think you would ever get to meet yeah and then you discover and they're also just human beings with feelings and with emotions and with their own challenges but I was so young at the time it was it was I don't even recognize myself when I look back at me seven years ago I see a shell of me and I think I look today and see myself and know myself so much more um and that's again that's an empowering experience to be in but yeah I went into the room and met him and he sat at his chair and it was like walking into I was like God or like a king you know and his silk shirt was his Aura was something you could see his Aura his smile he was beaming that was the most probably the most impactful day for me um as a youngster wow Lewis it's unbelievable talking to you I mean what you've achieved on the track off the track and now I'm even more excited to see you continue to achieve uh as your journey continues because I'm going to say this and I don't say this often and I genuinely my team can vouch for and everyone else can listen back to any episode I think you're one of the most on-purpose people I've ever interviewed and I appreciate that no and I genuinely like it just there's nothing else that comes from your being apart from what your purpose currently is with Mission 44 and and it's it's really remarkable to meet someone who's so on purpose I don't I genuinely don't have that experience and the only person you reminded me of was Kobe he had it too when I was around him there was no there's nothing else it wasn't like he missed anything he was at peace he was it was peace with purpose you know and you have that same Aura and spirit from from at least my experience thank you so much it's so kind of you yeah and I really mean that I really mean that it's incredible so uh we we end every episode with a Fast Five which means every question has to be answered in one word to one sentence maximum okay and we ask these same questions to every guest that's ever been on the show I should be prepared for that because I've seen you so well no the the first question is what's the best advice you've ever heard or received I think it was the achieve my dad uh never give up that's been like the slogan in the back of my mind every single day the other one would be um just that you'll always be learning and that's what I learned from Nelson Mandela he was like I'm 19 and I'm still learning today and like I was like what can you tell me it's like I'm still learning today and it's okay to be learning you're always going to be learning something new and growing yourself wow that's beautiful very like wow but like guys that was pretty basic but no but it's not it's it's powerful knowing he said that yeah as in the fact that he said that on his 90th birthday that is powerful because it's a long way to go yeah and it's like a lot of people I feel like a lot of people feel by 90 especially him he has so much wisdom to share yeah but the fact that his wisdom was I'm just learning that yeah I'm still learning that's pretty cool all right second question uh what's the worst advice you ever heard or received give up it's just the opposite yeah yeah literally the worst bit of advice and it wasn't I mean it wasn't necessarily advice but I when I was younger there was other parents of other racing drivers I was racing against I remember this one guy and he's like she just you just don't have it you should just give up their parents were saying their parents the grown man in these 40s or 50s told me that and I was eight told you told me yeah to my face and I remember just being so like what am I supposed to do with that what do you mean give up what was the reason I would imagine because I was beating his kid maybe I don't know I never really thought of what the reason would be and the same with teachers you know yeah what is this crap you know you're terrible at this you'll never know go to the next set you're never gonna amount to anything why are you even here I had a parent I had a teacher tell me that and wow it broke me down so much question number three uh how do you deal with loss and how do you deal with the win I think success is as I mentioned earlier short-lived success is there's a lot less learn in succ	learning a lot about myself I've had to break myself down in order to be able to be better and what do you mean by breaking yourself down uh well just when you when I told you about like all those barriers you put up over time to protect yourself and then kind of like knocking those barriers down yes and it's enabled me to connect with more people it's enabled me to realize my place in the world and I don't feel like I don't belong anymore I feel like uh you know I've got a place and I've got a purpose and that's and I think a lot of people are struggling to find that purpose but it's okay you'll you will find it do not give up keep getting up you know like just keep saying those things to yourself and you will eventually find it and you know you're already living in your purpose and having such a huge impact on so many people you know telling stories which uh is it's amazing to see um I started this production company inspired by like Kobe and so many out there but stories for me storytelling I watch a lot of movies I don't know about you but yeah I love movies especially Sports movies yeah like when I go home I'll like I you know order takeaway or make myself some pasta or something like that and then I put the plate in front of me	8	6	4	learning a lot about myself I've had to break myself down in order to be able to be better and what do you mean by breaking yourself down uh well just when you when I told you about like all those barriers you put up over time to protect yourself and then kind of like knocking those barriers down yes and it's enabled me to connect with more people it's enabled me to realize my place in the world and I don't feel like I don't belong anymore I feel like uh you know I've got a place and I've got a purpose and that's and I think a lot of people are struggling to find that purpose but it's okay you'll you will find it do not give up keep getting up you know like just keep saying those things to yourself and you will eventually find it	you know you're already living in your purpose and having such a huge impact on so many people you know telling stories which uh is it's amazing to see um I started this production company inspired by like Kobe and so many out there but stories for me storytelling I watch a lot of movies I don't know about you but yeah I love movies especially Sports movies yeah like when I go home I'll like I you know order takeaway or make myself some pasta or something like that and then I put the plate in front of me	8,4,8	6,2,5	8	4	8	6	2	5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyiWKXTd9aY	4,235	AyiWKXTd9aY	2023-01-23 00:00:00	I think the easiest thing in life is to give up on whatever you know whatever you're focused on or whatever you're hopeful for the hardest thing is to keep going but we have to like we have to continue to hold on and I would imagine for so many people out there that is probably the most difficult thing the best-selling author and host the number one Health and Wellness podcast on purpose with Jay Shetty hey everyone welcome back to on purpose the number one Health podcast in the world thanks to each and every one of you that come back every week to listen learn and grow now I know that our community is dedicated to living happier healthier and more healed lives and I love sitting down with people who are dedicated to their own happiness their own health their own healing and doing that for the world through their work and I have to be honest it's not every day that you get to sit down with someone you admire you're inspired by you look up to and someone who is truly the definition of the word goat uh I'm talking about the one and only sir Lewis Hamilton seven time Formula One World Champion someone with over a hundred race wins considered the most successful F1 driver of all time and Lewis's willingness to embrace what makes him different has defined his values and outlook on life and in 2014 those values saw him win BBC's Sports personality of the Year followed two years later by a position in Time magazine's 100 most influential people list Lewis received both accolades for a second time in 2020 in a year that saw him become a leading voice in the global fight for racial equality in doing so he was recognized as British gq's Game Changer of the year and Powerless most influential black person in the UK and further to this Lewis won the 2020 glorious Sportsman of the Year award and most notably was formally recognized with a Knighthood in 2020 New Year's honors for his outstanding achievements and contribution to Motorsports on the track and off the track Lewis is also passionate activists for so many underrepresented groups and communities his mission 44 is doing incredible work please welcome to on purpose Lewis Hamilton Lewis thank you for being here thank you so much for having me no this honestly is a special one for me it's been one of those ones that you know when I first launched the podcast there were a few names that I wanted to sit down with and you were one of those names so for me it's a very special moment and for this to be your first ever podcast which you just told me I didn't even know and you literally told me this like 10 minutes ago and in my head I'm thinking wow thank I I'm so grateful to have that honor honestly honest mine I'm really so grateful for everything you do and so I've been following and listening to you and you sent me the book a long time ago already so I really appreciate everything you're doing today oh well thank you man thank you and I'm excited to unpack your journey because as we said because it's your first podcast people have heard parts of you but but we don't really understand the depth and the texture of of Lewis Hamilton and so I guess I want to start in a in a different place and we'll we'll kind of go through on this journey I wanted to ask you what do you feel is the hardest thing you've had to do in order to be who you are today I think continuing to have the belief in myself and not letting that Veer off since I was young since I've been told from my teachers that I would never amount to nothing The Bullying or the things that you face at the adversity you face the discrimination and just continue to keep your head up continuing to to march on ahead uh towards your dream and never lose inside now I think that's definitely for sure the most difficult thing is keeping keeping your goal and your eyes set on that and not being distracted um not giving up I think the easiest thing in life is to give up on whatever you know whatever you're focused on or whatever you're hopeful for the hardest thing is to continue to keep going but we have to like we have to continue to hold on and I would imagine for so many people out there that is that it that is probably the most difficult thing yeah I think that's a great answer because I think people look at you and they assume that you never have to make that choice right they see someone in your position someone who's achieved what you've achieved and the Assumption can be oh yeah but he's the greatest he was he was just always that way and he doesn't have to make that choice every day but as you said since the beginning of your life whether it's childhood whether it's breaking into a sport that wasn't set up for you there have been so many moments let's let's go back to school let's talk about some of that more in depth because I feel like a lot of people struggle at school but you kind of went through a lot of altercations and adversities at that time what were some of the things you were hearing some of the bullying some of the racism the experiences that you had that felt limiting or made it feel like it was easier to give up I think for me I mean school was the most probably the most traumatizing and diff most difficult part of my life wow um I already was being bullied at the age of six um I think at the time that particular school I was probably one of three kids of color and just bigger stronger bullying kids were throwing me around a lot of the time I was always the last picked in the you know when you're standing playground in your uh in the line of when they're picking teams for football I was always the last one chosen or not even chosen even if I was better than somebody else um and then the the constant Jabs the things that are either thrown at you like bananas or people that would use the m word just so relaxed um people calling you half cast and you know just really not knowing where you fit in that for me was difficult when you then go into like history class and everything you learn in history there are no people of color in the history that they were teaching us so I was thinking oh well where are the people that look like me and I mean for me in my school there was only around I think there was around seven maybe six seven black kids out of 1200 kids and three of us were else put outside the headmaster's office all the time the Headmaster just had it out for for us and particularly for me I would say so like just juggling all these different emotions that you're feeling plus I struggled at school I didn't find out till I was 16 that I was dyslexic fortunately I came across a teacher that was actually caring and um took me down that road and helped me discover a little bit more about myself and how I can better myself through education but um I think that for me was that was tough also because I was racing every weekend I would leave on the Thursday night we would travel you know pack up the motorhome we'll travel around the country to race on the weekends and no one else knew when I'd got back to school every all the kids have done normal things on the weekend and I'll come back and say I'm I was racing and people would be like oh I've done that before you know like at this at the theme park or something but no one really knew what my goal was and could really they thought we would maybe it was a joke you missed a lot of that social interaction also I was putting all the lowest sets at school and told that if you do well you can progress and then never ever let me progress no matter how hard I tried um so I really felt that the system was really up against me and I was kind of swimming against the tide but I'm so grateful for that that Journey because that's what built me to the person that I am today but there were a lot of things that I suppressed because I I couldn't go home and say hey to my I didn't feel I could go home and talk to my parents that you know these kids kept calling me them where today I got bullied I got beaten up at school today or I you know I wasn't able to defend myself I didn't want my dad to think I was not strong and so I'll you know if I had tears I would hold them back if I had emotions it would be in a quiet place and um it wasn't really till I started racing that I was able to channel this emotion that I had into my driving and it's like when I put this helmet on Superman was my favorite I loved how he fought for the people and I loved how he did the right things and he was a really inspiring character for me but again no superhero was of color so you know but you can still aspire to be someone that's if they don't look like you you know um and so I remember going to karate I remember putting this helmet on in racing and it felt like it was my cloak you know my superpowers had come out when I was driving and I was battling with these kids and I was doing able to do things that they seemed to not be able to do as well and that was my love wow yeah I mean it's my mind was opposite I was bullied a lot at school as well I was one of five people of color in my primary school and I was also overweight and so I was bullied for that and obviously you know my parents are from Indian backgrounds and so they'd gone through it much worse than I did when when they'd moved to England but the difference was that I would go cry to my mum and then my mum would come try and save the day in school and that was the worst that was so embarrassing like your mum's they're telling the teacher what happened and then I'm like oh no Mom don't do this and then it's even more embarrassing because the kids pick on you going oh mum came to say oh yeah yeah Mommy's right yeah so that that was my version of it I wasn't scared of crying to my mum but then it had it had different things but yeah that that's so hard as a kid when you're going through that and you're trying to find yourself you're trying to figure out what confidence is you don't even know what that means you feel like not going to school but then even though you're saying you found it in racing I mean racing was similar because you were working class you're still to this day the only working-class black driver to do as successfully as you have so not only do you have it at school you also have it in your passion like in the thing that is your cloak is your Superman so how does it feel when you're also dealing with it in that area where you've discovered what your passion or your interest is at that age what does it feel like when you're getting in that space it's inescapable you know you use that as an escape but then you're confronted with it also and so I was just grateful that I had this amazing figure in my dad you know I got a you know my best one of my best friends like his dad was never there I know there's not many people that have separated parents and and being shared between parents is not an easy thing um you know some days with your mom and some days we did that my my mum was the soft loving parent so that's where I really I feel like I learned a lot of compassion and empathy that's where I feel like I get it from her and my dad was at that strong like kind of stronger Rock and also just someone that looked like me on and just he would say do you talking on the track don't be distracted by it don't listen to what they're saying do your driving on track and show let's just be quiet and walk away as well as you know um so but you know again like your parents my parents went through well particularly my dad was someone that also face adversity through his life and he's like I want to do everything in my power to create a better life for my kid so that I don't feel or experience the things that I have encountered and through my through my journey and so but I think for me it was also difficult having biracial you know I'm biracial so having a white mother mother for example and a black dad I knew my dad would understand the racial slurs that I surrounded me my mum couldn't understand it so I couldn't really speak to my mum about it she was loving but she's never been educated within it she didn't know anything about black history and slavery and so it was a very difficult but but I had love there which was the most important thing yeah um but in the racing it was like you know like kids you just want to enjoy yourself you want to be included and you know when you're kind of outcast a little bit it's um it's difficult for kids you know and so that's why today like I'm like if I'm posting something I hope that when I do click that button I hope that it is a positive wave for some of the kids out there that are being distracted by all the stuff that's going on around the world yeah I mean I was I was telling you earlier I was so grateful came out to watch you in Austin a couple of weeks ago and got to meet your dad and I heard you talk about your dad in that way before and so when I met him I was it was I was just you know it's nice to share that with him and I was just saying how beautiful it is to see your relationship and and how it's evolved it's always been that way yeah yeah that's what I thought yeah yeah to walk us through whatever you feel my dad has been like the leader in getting me you know he had four jobs at one stage just to keep us go-karting because when we all started gokind most of the people were majority of the people were from working class families um so but then there are of course a few wealthier kids that have slightly better access to equipment and um mechanics and all those sorts of things and my dad was my mechanic so it was just me and him on the road and and my stepmom Linda um she would be there supporting um making sure that we're fully clothed making sure that we we've eaten and we're hydrated all those sorts of things for the weekend prepare my kid um so it was very much a family outing it was a family kind of um family weekend we did it as a family um we've traveled together my little brother would be on the road with us as well who's a major inspiration you've definitely got to speak to me one day um born with Cerebral Palsy um when I was seven and is a speaker today so he's and racing he's done he's defined all the odds and wow uh even though he's seven years younger than me still very much an inspiration but the thing with my dad was he was maybe he was my manager all the way till I was like 20 I got to we got to phone one and he was he worked so hard his work ethic for me was that that's was inspiring for me seeing how hard he worked the time he gets up in the morning the little sleep that he would have end of his day in the garage working on the go-kart preparing for the weekend packing up the track and getting us to where we are mechanicing learning to be a better mechanic and and still weighing all these different things it was quite phenomenal to see um but I think it was difficult for him to then show me love and sometimes you just want to hug from your dad you know or when you're facing these things you want to be able to be embraced but um when I think I got to when I was 22 23 it got really intense when I got to form one because all of a sudden you're thrown into you go through karting and cars you don't go to school to to learn to speak to the media you're literally thrown into the pit and at the time I didn't have management other than my dad my stepmom were booked flights and trips but um I didn't have PR I didn't have anybody to help protect me or prepare me for things driving I was good I would say but in these things is where a lot of mistakes happened um you've got the the kind of all the media attention and you have to so you're just learning on the go which was very difficult for a youngster I think yeah absolutely and and also I just you wanted to try and live some sort of normal normal life but nothing's normal for you at the time and the thing for me and my dad were just we're really bumping his at one stage it's like I really just want you to be my dad so we can let's go and have fun let's go and have a laugh but we hadn't had that for a long time and so um eventually I decided to sit part ways for my dad and I was like I'm gonna start making some of the decisions for myself and the mistakes that I'm gonna need to make and there was definitely a period of time where we spoke less um but we both have worked so hard to come back together and we have one of the greatest you know he's the first person I want to call when I finish a race um because I know he knows what it's like he was there from day one and so you know he's been to the last two races with me he's probably gonna come to the next one there's days where I do feel like I'm not enough there's days where I don't feel like I'm good enough and people be like yeah but you've won seven World titles anyway yeah but still there's days where I question no you still got it you still are you can you still be the best yes you can and so I have to just always I'm having that conversation with myself often but my dad's also there sometimes I'll say something that's maybe not the most positive and he'll be the one there just reaffirming no you've got this believe in yourself and it's so important for people to have people like that around them and I support myself I surround myself with other positive people as well and we continue I think it's all our job to lift every as many you know everyone up right I want everyone around me to win and yeah um and to become the best versions of themselves so no thank you for sharing that as well thank you for opening up about that because yeah I think the relationships we have with our parents are just so significant when it comes to achievement and success and when you start doing sport at your level even at an early age wins and losses starts becoming so important so win and loss is important in everyone's life in the sense that everyone has it in exams in school and things like that which we'll talk about in a second as well but for you you're having a in a very over way like you have one two three and then you have everyone else and and how have you kind of worked with that since you're young because I can imagine that your psychology can become very much like if you win things are great if you lose things are bad how have you kind of processed that as time's gone on and was there a time when it was unhealthy and difficult and has it got better or is it something you're always working on so on one side of things you know I struggled at school as I said so the teachers would write these reports that I was not focused or I wasn't doing well and and I remember the fear of that report every year and I try so hard to do well and then these teachers I don't know if teachers out there realize when they write those reports what's happening back at home whether you have an abusive uh household or you know the the stress of that was was difficult I feel embracing if I if I would win I could see a smile on my dad's face and it was really like okay if I do well at this I know that I'll be accepted you know um but I go to work double hard to be I've got to always be first I always laugh about the whole if you're not first you last because I'm literally whilst that's obviously I've not been fresh my whole life first was everything yeah um in order to be accepted in order to fit in and maybe to be appreciated um not only in within my relationship perhaps with my dad but then also around my friends and it was until I got older I realized it's about the bigger picture but when you have success it's so short-lived it's like it really is really short-lived you win a race then you go back home and you have big as a racing driver you know the weekend's so intense you've seen it there's so much energy so much it's really really in a stressful environment for everyone that's working within it then you go home and there's a huge come down like one or two days later and you're trying to balance those emotions that emotional rollercoaster um and learning to kind of channel that and figure out ways to keep it balanced whether with your routine and those sorts of things has been really key for me but I think during the last couple of last few years really understanding that it's about the bigger picture um I'm fighting for something far greater than winning a race I'm really fighting for changing the world you know we're more divided than ever I would say it's devastating I can't watch the news it's devastating every there's so much happening but there are so many great people out there that are doing really great things and I want to be one of I want to be a part of that [Music] inspirational energy bubble that people like yourselves are a part of um because we want to we need to create a brighter future we need to create better Future Leaders look how many look how bad our leaders are that are in governments you know like we need to be as part of the next generation of thought leaders um that are positive and um yeah so that's what I'm trying to be a part of every day I'm so I'm really trying to focus on my intentions as you're talking about like setting your intentions each day um I'm trying to learn new tools that I didn't have when I was a kid I didn't I didn't know about yoga I didn't know about meditation um I didn't have podcasts to listen to good people to listen to and aspire to kind of help me put on the right path so yeah um yeah we've got a lot of work to do there's almost not enough time here on this planet right we're here for such a short time really in the Scale of the Universe yeah but I think you're one of those people that you know and that's when we first connected that was one of the biggest reasons for me that I saw you using your platform for a bigger purpose I was like oh that's fascinating like that's so interesting to me because that's a choice too I think today we kind of assume that if someone has a platform or if someone's you know number one in their field or if someone's got followers that they should talk about stuff we kind of assume that anyone who has followers should talk about stuff first of all I don't think that's the case I think a lot of people choose not to uh but but you were someone that stood out to me massively where I was just like wow this person's really not just winning on on the track but it's thinking about how winning on the track transfers to what you can do off the track because of the influence because of your network because of your impact and I find that to be really The Missing Link for so many people because I always say that your purpose is something not just that makes you happy it's when you use what makes you happy to serve other people like when you use it to impact other people's lives when did that drop for you like when did that click for you like were you ever I guess what I'm trying to say is there's a transition when you're saying that well you know winning like maybe get the nod from my dad and obviously I was bullied and then I'm winning but then I'm number one at something like was there a point at which number one didn't satisfy you or was there a point at which the success that came from it or or you didn't actually have to get dissatisfied you just found that there was a better way to be successful does that make sense the parv that was striking when you're just saying that for me it was like I feel like we often live in fear of what people think um how you're going to be judged how you're going to be received if you you're free outspoken you're going to lose your job you're going to be fired I've always been a outspoken person I think that's just been a quality I've never been a follower um I don't like to conform to how people expect what people of what people expect from you as I said I was having a success and I was like okay now I'm on I'm at the top what can I do with it yeah and there are so many causes there's so many problems out there and there's so many so many amazing causes and which one you know there's only one of you so like what where do you put the focus and that's take it took a long long time to really find what that was for me I think for me education was something that I felt extremely passionate about because I I've been out to India I'd been out into some of the really poorest places like Manila and seeing young kids who are like us but begging for food and not having the same opportunities and for me that was that broke my heart and realized how privileged we are and how fortunate we are it was like I want to be working with people out there that are trying to create more you know there's over 100 million kids that don't have access to school or education so how can I get involved in that so align yourself with people that do but I think I was I was winning and it was giving me that tip of happiness but then I would kind of drop back down to normality and there was something missing and it was that purpose really or understanding what that purpose was and understanding what why you've been put here why are you beginning the platform that you've that you've been given why were the only you know only people of color this whole time through it all and when I started speaking about um diversity people like oh you want to get more people of coloring as as racing drivers only 20 of us so as I know it's this forty thousand forty fifty thousand jobs there's thousands of engineering jobs in the background and there's such a lack of diversity coming through I want to be a part of Shifting that narrative and shifting that conversation and having people be question themselves and have those difficult conversations with with people so I first I just started by having those difficult conversations with my boss and one of the things he brings up that he said that hit him hard I said have you ever thought of as a white person walking into the paddock into the race weekend Paddock and being the only white person there he's like he's like I hadn't even thought of that I said well that's what it's like for someone like me when I'm in the room you noticed you noticed that out of 50 people in a meeting you're the only person the black person there and it's not because we are less is because there are these barriers within Society through education that are limiting people to be the best they can be so my job is to be empowering and improving representation I'm really really passionate like black Equity as well so that's why I got involved with the Denver Broncos Denver Broncos yeah yeah and usually when I'm in conversation with sponsors or companies I'm like hey so what it how diverse is your team what are you doing about diversity inclusion how are you creating a better work workspace for people that's what I want to be a part of I the success can come later and that's that would be along the way but if you're not asking those questions or you're not tackling those issues then we're not blind yeah and so all them pretty much every partner that we have we have a lot of Partners within our team I've asked these really difficult questions and they're like oh you know what but we can do more I'm like well let's do it you know yeah so I think I've grown very close with my like Mercedes-Benz and Gamma they've been so open that we changed the car from Silver to Black in 2020. and as again I said to them like the car's been silver forever it's always been silver arrows and I was like imagine if we change the card to Black well that could you know us turning up and arriving is how you show up and it's how you know imagine the message we can send and we had the black car for the whole year and we didn't even really talk much about it we just let it be and we went with it and that's when I won myself with that car so that's beautiful now that must have felt special it was honestly my whole life flashed by my not that last lap in Turkey my whole life like all the struggles the questioning whether you were going to make it or not just all those doubts all those fears kind of flash by Me by you know through my eyes and came across the line and I was like I did it and I wanted the kids out there to know that you can do it too you know um so that's what I try and like every day just try to be encouraging of kitchen yeah yeah do you sometimes feel that we were talking about this a bit earlier that you know in other sports we get to see the emotions and the expressions of players that we love or you know anyone who's on the court or the field of the pitch whereas with you because we don't get to see that in your eyes in your last lap like that we can only hear it today which is why I'm so grateful to have this moment because I obviously whenever whenever I'm sit down with someone who's a high performer like you it's obvious that there's so much emotion and preparation and power but with racing specifically you just don't get to see that do you sometimes feel that the only people that can truly relate to you are the people you compete with because I feel like it's like you said there's only 20 of you that are racing anyway it's lonely anyway 99 of people in the world have no idea what it feels like to drive a car as fast as you do and the way you do in in any comparison do you sometimes feel that the only people you can relate to are the people that are racing against you and then do you kind of feel is there a loneliness in that experience or is that kind of like a power in that as well definitely the other drivers I do feel that there's more we have a lot more in common than we think but we're so competitive and a lot of us have our defense like you want to beat the guy but then you like the guy you might like the person outside the car but you can't show that like there's this whole psychological battle you're having with yourself and getting away of yourself a lot of the time so I really feel like as an older driver I'm trying to be more like reaching out to youngsters and um because they're the future you know um and I'm excited to see some of these young drivers are coming through are so so talented I don't know if they've got the best structure around them like I mean like I didn't necessarily have the ultimate structure that I perhaps have now so just try to be a kind of a positive light to them but naturally none of them are black and none of them have necessarily faced the same as me but they've faced their own challenges and and things about respecting that with within everybody and I've tried to be create allies necessarily like in having the difficult conversations with some of them I mean I'm so grateful for I've had a couple of them it really took the knee with me in 2020 um just on that you know my dad was going back to the house with my dad my dad like never let me cry as a kid he said there's a sign of weakness like don't let me ever see you shed a tear so I remember just holding back through those difficult times as a kid holding back most of that stuff in 2020 I cried I hadn't cried for at least I think at least 10 years maybe more it was there was a lot of bottled up stuff that came up that I had not realized that didn't even know about suppressing a pain or a feeling so I remember kind of bending on my knees thinking no what has happened in the world I've got to I've got to be outspoken I've got to take that chance because if I don't do it then no one's gonna do it if I don't if I don't take the knee if I don't let people like me know that I care and I hear you and I'm I'm with you and I'm going to do something about it I'm going to risk it all I don't care if my partners want to drop me because I want to be associated with this narrative I don't I'm like and I literally let go of all the fear and that's why I went came so forward with it and I know it's not easy for everyone to do that um but I just want to really and try to encourage people out there too to be themselves to speak out if they've got a problem if they're seeing something within the work working environment or experiencing something you gotta be outspoken about it and there's a right way to do it the first day I was going to take the knee I remember I didn't feel like I could tell my team I was like because I know I felt that they wouldn't understand how important it is for me to do this this day so I remember I had my black lives matter a shirt hidden and I just wore it out there and I I went ahead within so no one knew no one knew but every uh the sport had built and made all these t-shirts like um we race as one yeah slogan and they gave these t-shirts to all the to everybody I was like I'm not wearing that that's not what this is about and so this is what I'm doing and this was around George Floyd right yeah and afterwards my team were like well why don't you if you just told us we could have prepared a bit over I had this fear that they would try and stop me perhaps but that was just a fear um they've been massively supportive through the whole thing My Hope was that you know kids would be watching me like what it what it what is that why is he taking me what what does that shirt mean what is going on Dad Mom and then the parents being in an awkward position having to explain it maybe but I think what was really encouraging for me I think when we started really getting into the whole diversity inclusion we did the research there was only three percent out of two thousand people in the team as three percent diversity so since then we've been on this Mission the team have started new projects we've discovered that the the sport generally hires from one group of universities which is not diverse and if there are any young black students that go there they're twice as unlikely to be hired when they come out compared to their counterparts and also paid less exercises all these things that perhaps people didn't know that's the Hamilton commission right yeah yeah and that just was interesting to to experience that and now now we're working on like a diversity Charter that all the teams have to be a part of and it's not mine it's for the sport and it's to encourage those teams because there's still not any diversity within you know if you look at Ferrari they don't have hardly any there's most teams don't um but when I go back to my team to the factory normally in our marketing department wasn't very diverse initially and I walked in after the pandemic and I started seeing such a more diverse group of people I was really quite emotional because I was like oh my God there's I'm starting to see change but you don't see that on TV yeah so when I talk to the to the bosses of the sport I'm like hey you know there's all white men facing oh and and me facing the camera at the start of the race where are the women where are the people of color we've got to be showing some young kids are watching and they're like oh there's a place for me there I can be there I can be an engineer I can be a mechanic or whatever it may be and even for young girls oh I can be a racing driver or an engineer a strategist or whatever you know so representation's so so key to inspiring the young youth especially in these industries that they already have less access to right like that's the point that it's not just it's not just representation because you want them to even have the opportunity it's the fact that there's just no access point which is what you're trying to create I think what's what I find really beautiful about you doing it is you're doing it though when you're like I'm having all my emotions come up at the same time as trying to be a voice for other people and when you're saying like I'm I'm taking a knee because I know I have to make a stand externally but internally you're taking a knee because so much of your own stuff from years ago is coming back up like that must be quite hard when you're that's that strikes me as something that's really inspiring about what you did is that you were going through your own healing at the same time as trying to do healing for the world there is so much healing to do right and I was completely oblivious to that I needed healing I needed to really peel back some of those layers um I think for people that turn into tune into a race and you mentioned earlier on but when you we arrive everything's set up We There is work that we're doing in the background naturally people don't see they just see a show but there is an unbelievable amount of work that goes on in the background um when I talk to people that talk about how much weight you lose they're like yeah you just sit in the car and you drive um there's this huge psychological and emotional roller coaster that you're going through that it would be really hard for people to comprehend and you would mention about all these other athletes you see their faces in other sports you can't see because we've got helmet on but you go through this roller coaster ride in the race and then you get out and they the camera's right in your face you're not prepared for that your emotions are shot particularly if you failed or feel like you failed and you don't always answer the right way if you wear your your heart on your sleeve people that don't necessarily like that necessary always people take advantage of that so then you build up all these protection mechanisms and mechanisms that's not necessarily you and at the core but won't be the safest thing for you you know what I mean like I read something the other day about it's like three steps of you and there's one the one of which you present your uh who you present there's you and your who you are to you and your family and friends and then there's one the part of you the real you that no one ever gets to see and I think just today in today's world it's so vicious on social media it's the media can be you know can really tell you apart and you build up you know like you you make a mistake in something you say in the media and your ridicule Feud you never do it again so you build up and you go more and more in your shell and you become harder for people to really relate to but I think for me what I've realized in these last few years is really peeling back those layers and you know letting people know that I grew up in a council state I you know I've lived on the sofa with my uh my my parents we've had those struggles um the successful people out there you see they too have had those things where we need to show that young kids who are going through that same thing that oh I can if he can get there or they can get there then it must be possible for me too yeah um and like being showing you about vulnerability that's something that I really struggled to to to do for a long long time and um like today that's something I think I'm a lot more open than I've ever ever been yeah I'm not living in fear every day and that's like the most that's the most important thing I think for me personally I'm living a much happier life because I'm I'm a lot more open yeah it's liberating yeah absolutely yeah it's liberating when you finally feel like you're not trapped or you're hiding held or yeah or hiding yeah or hiding my favorite quotes is from my Angelo when she says we are all powerful beyond measure and that really hit home also for me that that's my favorite quote because and I have a tattooed because really we are so we do limit ourselves we get in our own way right along with the other things that get in our way but a lot of our fear stops us from driving forwards from progressing and that's why like I do the craziest things I jump out of planes yeah you've done what 80 jumps yeah like just just I love challenging myself and doing things even though there's maybe fear there but overcoming that fear is like it's the best feeling when you overcome it and you realize that she was all just a bunch of nonsense in your head I want to encourage so all my friends I'm like let's go and do this today they're like are you crazy my dad don't even think as a kid my dad was like is he really my son because I wouldn't do any of these things and even still today um I still find that he's actually done skydiving with my Dad yeah he said he would never do it but he did it so but driving 200 miles per hour is probably one of the scariest things that you do all the time like that's not for you anymore whatever things I've never had that fear yeah uh as a kid and I was just never you know I think if you go on a ski slope and you see these kids coming by the kids are generally Fearless right yeah but think as you go get older yes you start you hurt yourself a little bit you start protecting yourself more and more but I just don't have that I think I feel like that was something that just wasn't necessarily put in me I'm terrified of spiders yeah that's the only thing but I'm doing 200 miles an hour that's actually when I'm most at peace I would say yeah it's like I'm like flowing it's like my that's my element and that's why I like I love doing what I do it could be really really hard when I start racing I've been doing for 30 years I'm 37 I've been racing 30 years and when you stop like what what's gonna match that nothing's gonna have a probably a match being in the stadium or being at the race and being at the Pinnacle the sport being at the front of the greater or coming through the grid that motion that I get there when I do stop that will be a there'll be a big hole Yeah so I'm trying to generally focus on things find things that are going to replace that that will also be just as rewarding and that's like Mission 44 for me meeting kids at schools having these conversations with families and parents who clearly you're going through difficult times and want to create the best opportunity for their kids encouraging them they're like okay I've been there too look where I got so you can get there it's just got to work through it that's for me the that's way more rewarding than winning the race yeah so much more yeah that's I'm so grateful and I'm so happy that everyone's gonna getting to hear this I felt you're the only and I know you know you're talking about when that happens but it's brilliant that you're planning already because you can see how so many athletes mentally when they know their career has somewhat of a shelf life or a somewhat of a time span like it's so hot it's it just completely wrote but I remember you're reminding me of when I had the fortune of sitting down with Kobe Bryant and I said sat down with him when he'd already retired wow and I interviewed him oh so great I'm so jealous he was one of those people that was not upset being retired he loved it because he knew that his mission for him was to make these short movies and make all these uh Sports based content to inspire kids to tell their stories and to help them find better stories and so it's exactly what you're saying where he wasn't he's one of those people that I've met he was not sad about he was so happy he was so pumped that's what I'm working towards yeah because he he knew that he had a mission and he had a purpose and he'd gone and won an Oscar for a short movie that he'd made and you know he was creating content to inspire kids and that's where his heart was and of course watching his daughters play and so I'm super inspired by him yeah I know but yeah like when you said that that's what I remembered and and he was in the same boat he was like I always wanted to script right and never had time to script right he said I was always playing basketball and he goes but then I started script writing and I got a coach and then I was writing and getting better as a writer that's what I think when I've spoken to other athletes we focused so much on that being the best you can be and that one thing that the other things that you also love like if it's playing an instrument or if it's writing scripts like it all falls everything falls away and yeah um how can you come compartmentalize staying in the in the zone in the focus Lane but also building up some of those other skills and discovering other passions you know people's we've heard people tell LeBron shut up and dribble like yeah that's there there's a lot of people put you in the box and say this you can only do one thing but as I've seen and spoken to some people that are active and retired a lot of them say when particularly when they retire that they everything kind of fell apart like everything fell to the ground they had nothing to back it up with and they hadn't discovered what they're doing next so then they go through this emotional Journey um of of Discovery but it takes time so I'm like trying to learn from those things and applying them and find the other things that I'm passionate about so I generally feel today that I have lots of things in the pipeline that when I do stop it's gonna be like so grateful but I have something better that I'm moving on to yeah um but I I have no doubts that I oh me and my dad will always have to go to the go-kart track or something you know I'm always going to be competitive yeah I can't that's literally a strain in My DNA that's just never gonna gonna shift I'm competitive at everything I'm happy to hear that it's it's it's I'm sure that's refreshing it's great for people to also hear that even to inspire young people or Inspire anyone who's gone to a place in their career where they know that there's a certain moment where things are going to wind down but then they're going to transition I think I don't think we celebrate the transitions enough in life and life is made up of transition absolutely and people think that it's maybe less or something but it's yeah it's it's not about that yeah exactly so it's fascinating you found that what are some of these like you said like um you know I've been doing jumps I've been doing this with my friends what are some of the routines that you put into place to help you manage your mindset because I feel like you're you said that being at 200 miles per hour for the duration of a race is like being in flow for you that means you're extremely comfortable with your own thoughts extremely comfortable with being in a high stress high pressure environment but being just with your own self talk to us about how you I mean it sounds like that's always been the case but what have you done to become more and more comfortable with that yeah I think naturally this is the natural ability right but um I've been out of focus for an hour and 45 minutes without making mistakes and that's that's literally insane it's unbelievable dealing with the pressures um a friend actually asked me last night because I talk about we lose a lot of race a lot of weight in the race yes like sometimes you can lose up to 10 pounds like four kilos and people like whoa I need to be particularly in America they're like oh I need to be a racing driver um for the weight loss but this question is my friend asked me the other day that's like where does the where does the weight go like yeah because my suit doesn't because afterwards I weigh less but the I'm like so it must evaporate you somewhere so I've never got to figure out where all that weight actually truly goes because it obviously isn't in sweat but that's like messed my mind about um but the suit definitely is obviously a little bit heavier but um it's about gaining tools and I think as when I was younger I didn't have I knew how to arrive at the race I channeled the so this emotion that I had through whatever those difficulties were into my driving so it's laser focused like if you watch a video for me when I was five years old on Blue Pizza you'll see I'm just laser focused but um being able to control emotions being out to be calm and present staying centered there are loads of obviously different methods that people can use so things that I try to that I've started to incorporate over the years more in my life is things like stretching things like yoga and meditation has been a real that for me was something that I never thought that that I kind of turned a blind eye to it when I was younger I thought that's not gonna be helpful but being able to be sit still for a second and listen to the noises around you um and understand you want to tap into that kind of in a child or whatever it may be that's for me been taking that moment for yourself each day treating yourself with love and being kind to yourself you know because I think for a long time I wasn't kind to myself and that's been a process uh doing things that being purposeful and and having real certain intentions each day no matter how big or small and you know I wake up I'm looking in the mirror brushing your teeth then stop for a second sake this today's gonna be the day today's gonna be great um and no matter what you're faced with you know just whatever you come out with yeah yeah talking to yourself also speaking to people I think is very important I think as a kid as I said I didn't feel like I could speak to people I didn't feel like I could tell my mom about these experiences I felt embarrassed I couldn't tell my dad so I thought he would fulfill think less of me I couldn't talk to any of the teachers couldn't tell my most my friends most of them uh weren't particularly of color so but finding learning to be open and speak to people or find someone to speak to whether it's a therapist or whatever that's that's been a huge um help um I don't not necessarily have a therapist especially someone that I'm able to then just have shoot a with basically yeah um and confide in and Trust like trust has been something that I've never had done didn't trust anybody through those experiments I had as a kid and it's been very very hard to build trust with people but creating allies finding things that are that you have in common with people like my boss for example him and I just breaking each other down and then just having realizing that was similar in many many ways but also very different but that's not what should divide us we can then be allies and so that's why we're working on being the most diverse team we're working on pushing we have we've studied ignite which is about getting you know improving that pipeline of into motorsport for people um from underserved communities and there's so much work to do you're doing it though man I'm trying to I'm trying to and you know to the point you were asking earlier like has has enough been done absolutely not in the industry yes and like you don't feel that yeah and it's not only in either industry it's everywhere and is that your goal to sort in the industry and then expand out or you're starting you're starting across the board anyway yeah yeah that well with the team with where it's we started an organization which called ignite which we both fund and that is focused on the sport Motorsport in general but Mission 44 is focused on a much you know societal challenges and barriers and and education and um that's a focused in the UK at the moment but I want to bring that over to the states absolutely man um you know hopefully by at least 2024 um also just been to Africa and there is so much Beauty there and I really really want to have an imp you know really want to help there as well so yeah um we will continue to expand but we're one of the one of the few black founding non-profit organizations in UK and with um black CEO for example a very diverse group of people um and just having those conversations with people of just what a diverse Workforce means and how that bet can benefit you when you have people from different backgrounds all coming up with a diverse diverse thought and creation it's that's how you have more success yeah it's a no it's a no-brainer when you hear it and you're just like wow that makes so much sense and creativity is better and you you'd be able to come up with far more innovative ideas and you've got so many more cultures now being celebrated involved and I I feel like it's it's interesting to me that the world hasn't caught on with that yet like it's it's interesting that even despite there being progress there's not enough progress but what what is the block like what is the stop is it a mindset is it just habits and laziness like what is the actual like if you got to the core of it from everyone you've been speaking to like what are you what is the issue is the issue that yeah is the issue just laziness and just oh this is the way things have always been or is it or is there actually like a setup I don't have the answer to it I I ask that question all the time and I come up with lots of different theories in my mind um sometimes I'm like maybe people don't just don't care maybe people's problems are so big that they don't have time to focus on other things and it's hard enough just to do the thing that you're focused on or just overcoming the issue that you're overcoming so how am I gonna have more time to yeah to speak about these things why should I take the risk and risk my next step and so I feel like it's about learning to be selfless right and um which is difficult to do if you're not being loving yourself and not in a good place yeah so I think it all comes to us at hopefully a time at a certain point in our lives um but also you know we live in a time where like social media is so it's such a dangerous it's such a powerful tool but it's also can be so dangerous and so dividing and I see people out there today and there's people that I admire that I'm that that I would follow and I'd be like how they projecting something that's not necessarily healthy for you for people out there how are they projecting they're not using this platform to be more inspirational or be more positive and there's others that are but then I don't you can't judge because that's their Journey well you can continue to do is try to you know with that Maya Angelou quote it's about being shining your light as bright as you can possibly get it and hope that by doing it you I think you automatically uh encourage the people around you to want to do the same and I never truly understood that until I see the team that I work with how we all Inspire each other how with this year for example we've had the you know 2022 has been one of the hardest years for us as a team um as we didn't build a great car and we had our struggles as many people do and how we've had to all come closer and the relationship I've had with people that I've worked with this team for 10 years and there's conversations we've had this year people have opened up like they've never opened up before people have cried like it's been it's been beautiful to see yeah I feel like with some a far better team than we've ever been before because we're living with intention we're actually talking about impact that everyone in the team's gone and had diversity inclusion training no one's been kind of like I'm not I'm not going through that class why do I have to go and learn with diversity and inclusions about it I'm and why it doesn't impact me you know people like I understand it doesn't I wouldn't necessarily notice it but I want to understand it more so I can be better in my working environment it's been unbelievable that's amazing also leaders within our sport are now now where we are on a road to being a more diverse and more inclusive sport but I think my job is to continuously make sure that it that that same the effort that we're putting in now doesn't kind of fall away and become kind of you know just because it was um trending yeah yeah yeah that is actually something that's on the top of the list sustainability is on the top of our list and that real true core values we don't go out of our way well you know because a lot of people it's very easy to kind of be led by the money success but making sure you stick to your core values it's so true so important it goes back to what you said though that that's what real leaders do like leaders don't follow what's trending like leaders have focused on transformation and then they're dedicated to transformation and they're going to keep doing it until they see a change whereas followers follow Trends and oh it's not trending now it doesn't matter we'll focus on something else but you know obviously it's so clear just listening to you today and it's amazing Because unless I'm so glad I've had this opportunity to talk to you because I can hear just how deeply dedicated you are to this and how it's at your core it's like it's everything that comes out of your pores today is just you know which is which is really special to see a value being embodied like to empower other people you have to embody the value first it doesn't just you don't just go around empowering people and so to hear how your soul and heart is like completely a sponge for this stuff and then to wanting to go and share it with the world it's really remarkable man ah thank you yeah well I mean it's I've I'm by far perfect no yeah I know and I think that's like it's not about being perfect it's about just every day one step at a time trying to be better trying to do more yeah and um learning a lot about myself I've had to break myself down in order to be able to be better and what do you mean by breaking yourself down uh well just when you when I told you about like all those barriers you put up over time to protect yourself and then kind of like knocking those barriers down yes and it's enabled me to connect with more people it's enabled me to realize my place in the world and I don't feel like I don't belong anymore I feel like uh you know I've got a place and I've got a purpose and that's and I think a lot of people are struggling to find that purpose but it's okay you'll you will find it do not give up keep getting up you know like just keep saying those things to yourself and you will eventually find it and you know you're already living in your purpose and having such a huge impact on so many people you know telling stories which uh is it's amazing to see um I started this production company inspired by like Kobe and so many out there but stories for me storytelling I watch a lot of movies I don't know about you but yeah I love movies especially Sports movies yeah like when I go home I'll like I you know order takeaway or make myself some pasta or something like that and then I put the plate in front of me and I can't eat till I found something to watch like my my Escape is watching a movie and I always like to find something hopefully inspiring yes but what the reason I created this um production company is because you know until recently we didn't have any people of color are superheroes We I think these stories storytelling is so so important for people out there for inspiring people and and I want to make sure that in and everything that I do every project that I work on is with a diverse Workforce like I'm doing this from one movie with um Brad Pitt and Joe kazinski and um but my job is to make sure that it's diverse behind the camera as it is on screen the story is empowering and uplifting um it's not there's no BS in terms of the racing and hopefully one kid will watch it and yeah or more and feel empowered to go and do something great absolutely I love that man I'm so glad you're doing that because when you said do I like movies the movie that came to my mind was uh race have you seen race because yeah so like that the story is unbelievable but when you watch the movie as well it's unbelievable to see what Jesse Owens did like to think that he had to go I can't even imagine I can't you know you just can't imagine if everyone's not seen the movie you have to go see them yeah it's just one of those movies that's like how do you do that like how do you go and race in Nazi Germany like I have like I must have been terrified terrifying and you know there's been so many great stories like that that are out there that need telling yeah um continuously telling yeah 42 is another one yeah 42 is awesome um but yeah there is these really unique people out there I think for me being in this sport being the only one and being the first is that is that has been lonely yeah and that has been really really a difficult thing to kind of understand and and um through my life I know many many people like Jesse for example being the first and only at the time you know I've taken huge inspiration from him Nelson Mandela was like ah he's just one of my biggest biggest Inspirations um I was so so fortunate to get to meet him when I was I was like 23 or something oh wow what was that like yeah ah it was mind-blowing I mean when you when you then I got to form one and you have the success all these things come and you don't even you've dreamed of being a racing driver but you didn't dream that all the other things of all the other things that come along like meeting other unbelievable people I went to Nelson Mandela's 90th birthday in London and I was sat on his table in this huge room full of like Bill Clinton was there like uh Denzel Washington was there open Winfrey sat right next to me like all these people that you would never ever in the million years dream of think you would ever get to meet yeah and then you discover and they're also just human beings with feelings and with emotions and with their own challenges but I was so young at the time it was it was I don't even recognize myself when I look back at me seven years ago I see a shell of me and I think I look today and see myself and know myself so much more um and that's again that's an empowering experience to be in but yeah I went into the room and met him and he sat at his chair and it was like walking into I was like God or like a king you know and his silk shirt was his Aura was something you could see his Aura his smile he was beaming that was the most probably the most impactful day for me um as a youngster wow Lewis it's unbelievable talking to you I mean what you've achieved on the track off the track and now I'm even more excited to see you continue to achieve uh as your journey continues because I'm going to say this and I don't say this often and I genuinely my team can vouch for and everyone else can listen back to any episode I think you're one of the most on-purpose people I've ever interviewed and I appreciate that no and I genuinely like it just there's nothing else that comes from your being apart from what your purpose currently is with Mission 44 and and it's it's really remarkable to meet someone who's so on purpose I don't I genuinely don't have that experience and the only person you reminded me of was Kobe he had it too when I was around him there was no there's nothing else it wasn't like he missed anything he was at peace he was it was peace with purpose you know and you have that same Aura and spirit from from at least my experience thank you so much it's so kind of you yeah and I really mean that I really mean that it's incredible so uh we we end every episode with a Fast Five which means every question has to be answered in one word to one sentence maximum okay and we ask these same questions to every guest that's ever been on the show I should be prepared for that because I've seen you so well no the the first question is what's the best advice you've ever heard or received I think it was the achieve my dad uh never give up that's been like the slogan in the back of my mind every single day the other one would be um just that you'll always be learning and that's what I learned from Nelson Mandela he was like I'm 19 and I'm still learning today and like I was like what can you tell me it's like I'm still learning today and it's okay to be learning you're always going to be learning something new and growing yourself wow that's beautiful very like wow but like guys that was pretty basic but no but it's not it's it's powerful knowing he said that yeah as in the fact that he said that on his 90th birthday that is powerful because it's a long way to go yeah and it's like a lot of people I feel like a lot of people feel by 90 especially him he has so much wisdom to share yeah but the fact that his wisdom was I'm just learning that yeah I'm still learning that's pretty cool all right second question uh what's the worst advice you ever heard or received give up it's just the opposite yeah yeah literally the worst bit of advice and it wasn't I mean it wasn't necessarily advice but I when I was younger there was other parents of other racing drivers I was racing against I remember this one guy and he's like she just you just don't have it you should just give up their parents were saying their parents the grown man in these 40s or 50s told me that and I was eight told you told me yeah to my face and I remember just being so like what am I supposed to do with that what do you mean give up what was the reason I would imagine because I was beating his kid maybe I don't know I never really thought of what the reason would be and the same with teachers you know yeah what is this crap you know you're terrible at this you'll never know go to the next set you're never gonna amount to anything why are you even here I had a parent I had a teacher tell me that and wow it broke me down so much question number three uh how do you deal with loss and how do you deal with the win I think success is as I mentioned earlier short-lived success is there's a lot less learn in succ	and I can't eat till I found something to watch like my my Escape is watching a movie and I always like to find something hopefully inspiring yes but what the reason I created this um production company is because you know until recently we didn't have any people of color are superheroes We I think these stories storytelling is so so important for people out there for inspiring people and and I want to make sure that in and everything that I do every project that I work on is with a diverse Workforce like I'm doing this from one movie with um Brad Pitt and Joe kazinski and um but my job is to make sure that it's diverse behind the camera as it is on screen the story is empowering and uplifting um it's not there's no BS in terms of the racing and hopefully one kid will watch it and yeah or more and feel empowered to go and do something great absolutely I love that man I'm so glad you're doing that because when you said do I like movies the movie that came to my mind was uh race have you seen race because yeah so like that the story is unbelievable but when you watch the movie as well it's unbelievable to see what Jesse Owens did like to think that he had to go I can't even imagine I can't you know you just can't imagine if everyone's not seen the movie	8	6	7	and I can't eat till I found something to watch like my my Escape is watching a movie and I always like to find something hopefully inspiring yes but what the reason I created this um production company is because you know until recently we didn't have any people of color are superheroes We I think these stories storytelling is so so important for people out there for inspiring people and and I want to make sure that in and everything that I do every project that I work on is with a diverse Workforce like I'm doing this from one movie with um Brad Pitt and Joe kazinski and um but my job is to make sure that it's diverse behind the camera as it is on screen the story is empowering and uplifting um it's not there's no BS in terms of the racing and hopefully one kid will watch it and yeah or more and feel empowered to go and do something great	I love that man I'm so glad you're doing that because when you said do I like movies the movie that came to my mind was uh race have you seen race because yeah so like that the story is unbelievable but when you watch the movie as well it's unbelievable to see what Jesse Owens did like to think that he had to go I can't even imagine I can't you know you just can't imagine if everyone's not seen the movie	6,4,8	8,7,5	6	4	8	8	7	5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyiWKXTd9aY	4,235	AyiWKXTd9aY	2023-01-23 00:00:00	I think the easiest thing in life is to give up on whatever you know whatever you're focused on or whatever you're hopeful for the hardest thing is to keep going but we have to like we have to continue to hold on and I would imagine for so many people out there that is probably the most difficult thing the best-selling author and host the number one Health and Wellness podcast on purpose with Jay Shetty hey everyone welcome back to on purpose the number one Health podcast in the world thanks to each and every one of you that come back every week to listen learn and grow now I know that our community is dedicated to living happier healthier and more healed lives and I love sitting down with people who are dedicated to their own happiness their own health their own healing and doing that for the world through their work and I have to be honest it's not every day that you get to sit down with someone you admire you're inspired by you look up to and someone who is truly the definition of the word goat uh I'm talking about the one and only sir Lewis Hamilton seven time Formula One World Champion someone with over a hundred race wins considered the most successful F1 driver of all time and Lewis's willingness to embrace what makes him different has defined his values and outlook on life and in 2014 those values saw him win BBC's Sports personality of the Year followed two years later by a position in Time magazine's 100 most influential people list Lewis received both accolades for a second time in 2020 in a year that saw him become a leading voice in the global fight for racial equality in doing so he was recognized as British gq's Game Changer of the year and Powerless most influential black person in the UK and further to this Lewis won the 2020 glorious Sportsman of the Year award and most notably was formally recognized with a Knighthood in 2020 New Year's honors for his outstanding achievements and contribution to Motorsports on the track and off the track Lewis is also passionate activists for so many underrepresented groups and communities his mission 44 is doing incredible work please welcome to on purpose Lewis Hamilton Lewis thank you for being here thank you so much for having me no this honestly is a special one for me it's been one of those ones that you know when I first launched the podcast there were a few names that I wanted to sit down with and you were one of those names so for me it's a very special moment and for this to be your first ever podcast which you just told me I didn't even know and you literally told me this like 10 minutes ago and in my head I'm thinking wow thank I I'm so grateful to have that honor honestly honest mine I'm really so grateful for everything you do and so I've been following and listening to you and you sent me the book a long time ago already so I really appreciate everything you're doing today oh well thank you man thank you and I'm excited to unpack your journey because as we said because it's your first podcast people have heard parts of you but but we don't really understand the depth and the texture of of Lewis Hamilton and so I guess I want to start in a in a different place and we'll we'll kind of go through on this journey I wanted to ask you what do you feel is the hardest thing you've had to do in order to be who you are today I think continuing to have the belief in myself and not letting that Veer off since I was young since I've been told from my teachers that I would never amount to nothing The Bullying or the things that you face at the adversity you face the discrimination and just continue to keep your head up continuing to to march on ahead uh towards your dream and never lose inside now I think that's definitely for sure the most difficult thing is keeping keeping your goal and your eyes set on that and not being distracted um not giving up I think the easiest thing in life is to give up on whatever you know whatever you're focused on or whatever you're hopeful for the hardest thing is to continue to keep going but we have to like we have to continue to hold on and I would imagine for so many people out there that is that it that is probably the most difficult thing yeah I think that's a great answer because I think people look at you and they assume that you never have to make that choice right they see someone in your position someone who's achieved what you've achieved and the Assumption can be oh yeah but he's the greatest he was he was just always that way and he doesn't have to make that choice every day but as you said since the beginning of your life whether it's childhood whether it's breaking into a sport that wasn't set up for you there have been so many moments let's let's go back to school let's talk about some of that more in depth because I feel like a lot of people struggle at school but you kind of went through a lot of altercations and adversities at that time what were some of the things you were hearing some of the bullying some of the racism the experiences that you had that felt limiting or made it feel like it was easier to give up I think for me I mean school was the most probably the most traumatizing and diff most difficult part of my life wow um I already was being bullied at the age of six um I think at the time that particular school I was probably one of three kids of color and just bigger stronger bullying kids were throwing me around a lot of the time I was always the last picked in the you know when you're standing playground in your uh in the line of when they're picking teams for football I was always the last one chosen or not even chosen even if I was better than somebody else um and then the the constant Jabs the things that are either thrown at you like bananas or people that would use the m word just so relaxed um people calling you half cast and you know just really not knowing where you fit in that for me was difficult when you then go into like history class and everything you learn in history there are no people of color in the history that they were teaching us so I was thinking oh well where are the people that look like me and I mean for me in my school there was only around I think there was around seven maybe six seven black kids out of 1200 kids and three of us were else put outside the headmaster's office all the time the Headmaster just had it out for for us and particularly for me I would say so like just juggling all these different emotions that you're feeling plus I struggled at school I didn't find out till I was 16 that I was dyslexic fortunately I came across a teacher that was actually caring and um took me down that road and helped me discover a little bit more about myself and how I can better myself through education but um I think that for me was that was tough also because I was racing every weekend I would leave on the Thursday night we would travel you know pack up the motorhome we'll travel around the country to race on the weekends and no one else knew when I'd got back to school every all the kids have done normal things on the weekend and I'll come back and say I'm I was racing and people would be like oh I've done that before you know like at this at the theme park or something but no one really knew what my goal was and could really they thought we would maybe it was a joke you missed a lot of that social interaction also I was putting all the lowest sets at school and told that if you do well you can progress and then never ever let me progress no matter how hard I tried um so I really felt that the system was really up against me and I was kind of swimming against the tide but I'm so grateful for that that Journey because that's what built me to the person that I am today but there were a lot of things that I suppressed because I I couldn't go home and say hey to my I didn't feel I could go home and talk to my parents that you know these kids kept calling me them where today I got bullied I got beaten up at school today or I you know I wasn't able to defend myself I didn't want my dad to think I was not strong and so I'll you know if I had tears I would hold them back if I had emotions it would be in a quiet place and um it wasn't really till I started racing that I was able to channel this emotion that I had into my driving and it's like when I put this helmet on Superman was my favorite I loved how he fought for the people and I loved how he did the right things and he was a really inspiring character for me but again no superhero was of color so you know but you can still aspire to be someone that's if they don't look like you you know um and so I remember going to karate I remember putting this helmet on in racing and it felt like it was my cloak you know my superpowers had come out when I was driving and I was battling with these kids and I was doing able to do things that they seemed to not be able to do as well and that was my love wow yeah I mean it's my mind was opposite I was bullied a lot at school as well I was one of five people of color in my primary school and I was also overweight and so I was bullied for that and obviously you know my parents are from Indian backgrounds and so they'd gone through it much worse than I did when when they'd moved to England but the difference was that I would go cry to my mum and then my mum would come try and save the day in school and that was the worst that was so embarrassing like your mum's they're telling the teacher what happened and then I'm like oh no Mom don't do this and then it's even more embarrassing because the kids pick on you going oh mum came to say oh yeah yeah Mommy's right yeah so that that was my version of it I wasn't scared of crying to my mum but then it had it had different things but yeah that that's so hard as a kid when you're going through that and you're trying to find yourself you're trying to figure out what confidence is you don't even know what that means you feel like not going to school but then even though you're saying you found it in racing I mean racing was similar because you were working class you're still to this day the only working-class black driver to do as successfully as you have so not only do you have it at school you also have it in your passion like in the thing that is your cloak is your Superman so how does it feel when you're also dealing with it in that area where you've discovered what your passion or your interest is at that age what does it feel like when you're getting in that space it's inescapable you know you use that as an escape but then you're confronted with it also and so I was just grateful that I had this amazing figure in my dad you know I got a you know my best one of my best friends like his dad was never there I know there's not many people that have separated parents and and being shared between parents is not an easy thing um you know some days with your mom and some days we did that my my mum was the soft loving parent so that's where I really I feel like I learned a lot of compassion and empathy that's where I feel like I get it from her and my dad was at that strong like kind of stronger Rock and also just someone that looked like me on and just he would say do you talking on the track don't be distracted by it don't listen to what they're saying do your driving on track and show let's just be quiet and walk away as well as you know um so but you know again like your parents my parents went through well particularly my dad was someone that also face adversity through his life and he's like I want to do everything in my power to create a better life for my kid so that I don't feel or experience the things that I have encountered and through my through my journey and so but I think for me it was also difficult having biracial you know I'm biracial so having a white mother mother for example and a black dad I knew my dad would understand the racial slurs that I surrounded me my mum couldn't understand it so I couldn't really speak to my mum about it she was loving but she's never been educated within it she didn't know anything about black history and slavery and so it was a very difficult but but I had love there which was the most important thing yeah um but in the racing it was like you know like kids you just want to enjoy yourself you want to be included and you know when you're kind of outcast a little bit it's um it's difficult for kids you know and so that's why today like I'm like if I'm posting something I hope that when I do click that button I hope that it is a positive wave for some of the kids out there that are being distracted by all the stuff that's going on around the world yeah I mean I was I was telling you earlier I was so grateful came out to watch you in Austin a couple of weeks ago and got to meet your dad and I heard you talk about your dad in that way before and so when I met him I was it was I was just you know it's nice to share that with him and I was just saying how beautiful it is to see your relationship and and how it's evolved it's always been that way yeah yeah that's what I thought yeah yeah to walk us through whatever you feel my dad has been like the leader in getting me you know he had four jobs at one stage just to keep us go-karting because when we all started gokind most of the people were majority of the people were from working class families um so but then there are of course a few wealthier kids that have slightly better access to equipment and um mechanics and all those sorts of things and my dad was my mechanic so it was just me and him on the road and and my stepmom Linda um she would be there supporting um making sure that we're fully clothed making sure that we we've eaten and we're hydrated all those sorts of things for the weekend prepare my kid um so it was very much a family outing it was a family kind of um family weekend we did it as a family um we've traveled together my little brother would be on the road with us as well who's a major inspiration you've definitely got to speak to me one day um born with Cerebral Palsy um when I was seven and is a speaker today so he's and racing he's done he's defined all the odds and wow uh even though he's seven years younger than me still very much an inspiration but the thing with my dad was he was maybe he was my manager all the way till I was like 20 I got to we got to phone one and he was he worked so hard his work ethic for me was that that's was inspiring for me seeing how hard he worked the time he gets up in the morning the little sleep that he would have end of his day in the garage working on the go-kart preparing for the weekend packing up the track and getting us to where we are mechanicing learning to be a better mechanic and and still weighing all these different things it was quite phenomenal to see um but I think it was difficult for him to then show me love and sometimes you just want to hug from your dad you know or when you're facing these things you want to be able to be embraced but um when I think I got to when I was 22 23 it got really intense when I got to form one because all of a sudden you're thrown into you go through karting and cars you don't go to school to to learn to speak to the media you're literally thrown into the pit and at the time I didn't have management other than my dad my stepmom were booked flights and trips but um I didn't have PR I didn't have anybody to help protect me or prepare me for things driving I was good I would say but in these things is where a lot of mistakes happened um you've got the the kind of all the media attention and you have to so you're just learning on the go which was very difficult for a youngster I think yeah absolutely and and also I just you wanted to try and live some sort of normal normal life but nothing's normal for you at the time and the thing for me and my dad were just we're really bumping his at one stage it's like I really just want you to be my dad so we can let's go and have fun let's go and have a laugh but we hadn't had that for a long time and so um eventually I decided to sit part ways for my dad and I was like I'm gonna start making some of the decisions for myself and the mistakes that I'm gonna need to make and there was definitely a period of time where we spoke less um but we both have worked so hard to come back together and we have one of the greatest you know he's the first person I want to call when I finish a race um because I know he knows what it's like he was there from day one and so you know he's been to the last two races with me he's probably gonna come to the next one there's days where I do feel like I'm not enough there's days where I don't feel like I'm good enough and people be like yeah but you've won seven World titles anyway yeah but still there's days where I question no you still got it you still are you can you still be the best yes you can and so I have to just always I'm having that conversation with myself often but my dad's also there sometimes I'll say something that's maybe not the most positive and he'll be the one there just reaffirming no you've got this believe in yourself and it's so important for people to have people like that around them and I support myself I surround myself with other positive people as well and we continue I think it's all our job to lift every as many you know everyone up right I want everyone around me to win and yeah um and to become the best versions of themselves so no thank you for sharing that as well thank you for opening up about that because yeah I think the relationships we have with our parents are just so significant when it comes to achievement and success and when you start doing sport at your level even at an early age wins and losses starts becoming so important so win and loss is important in everyone's life in the sense that everyone has it in exams in school and things like that which we'll talk about in a second as well but for you you're having a in a very over way like you have one two three and then you have everyone else and and how have you kind of worked with that since you're young because I can imagine that your psychology can become very much like if you win things are great if you lose things are bad how have you kind of processed that as time's gone on and was there a time when it was unhealthy and difficult and has it got better or is it something you're always working on so on one side of things you know I struggled at school as I said so the teachers would write these reports that I was not focused or I wasn't doing well and and I remember the fear of that report every year and I try so hard to do well and then these teachers I don't know if teachers out there realize when they write those reports what's happening back at home whether you have an abusive uh household or you know the the stress of that was was difficult I feel embracing if I if I would win I could see a smile on my dad's face and it was really like okay if I do well at this I know that I'll be accepted you know um but I go to work double hard to be I've got to always be first I always laugh about the whole if you're not first you last because I'm literally whilst that's obviously I've not been fresh my whole life first was everything yeah um in order to be accepted in order to fit in and maybe to be appreciated um not only in within my relationship perhaps with my dad but then also around my friends and it was until I got older I realized it's about the bigger picture but when you have success it's so short-lived it's like it really is really short-lived you win a race then you go back home and you have big as a racing driver you know the weekend's so intense you've seen it there's so much energy so much it's really really in a stressful environment for everyone that's working within it then you go home and there's a huge come down like one or two days later and you're trying to balance those emotions that emotional rollercoaster um and learning to kind of channel that and figure out ways to keep it balanced whether with your routine and those sorts of things has been really key for me but I think during the last couple of last few years really understanding that it's about the bigger picture um I'm fighting for something far greater than winning a race I'm really fighting for changing the world you know we're more divided than ever I would say it's devastating I can't watch the news it's devastating every there's so much happening but there are so many great people out there that are doing really great things and I want to be one of I want to be a part of that [Music] inspirational energy bubble that people like yourselves are a part of um because we want to we need to create a brighter future we need to create better Future Leaders look how many look how bad our leaders are that are in governments you know like we need to be as part of the next generation of thought leaders um that are positive and um yeah so that's what I'm trying to be a part of every day I'm so I'm really trying to focus on my intentions as you're talking about like setting your intentions each day um I'm trying to learn new tools that I didn't have when I was a kid I didn't I didn't know about yoga I didn't know about meditation um I didn't have podcasts to listen to good people to listen to and aspire to kind of help me put on the right path so yeah um yeah we've got a lot of work to do there's almost not enough time here on this planet right we're here for such a short time really in the Scale of the Universe yeah but I think you're one of those people that you know and that's when we first connected that was one of the biggest reasons for me that I saw you using your platform for a bigger purpose I was like oh that's fascinating like that's so interesting to me because that's a choice too I think today we kind of assume that if someone has a platform or if someone's you know number one in their field or if someone's got followers that they should talk about stuff we kind of assume that anyone who has followers should talk about stuff first of all I don't think that's the case I think a lot of people choose not to uh but but you were someone that stood out to me massively where I was just like wow this person's really not just winning on on the track but it's thinking about how winning on the track transfers to what you can do off the track because of the influence because of your network because of your impact and I find that to be really The Missing Link for so many people because I always say that your purpose is something not just that makes you happy it's when you use what makes you happy to serve other people like when you use it to impact other people's lives when did that drop for you like when did that click for you like were you ever I guess what I'm trying to say is there's a transition when you're saying that well you know winning like maybe get the nod from my dad and obviously I was bullied and then I'm winning but then I'm number one at something like was there a point at which number one didn't satisfy you or was there a point at which the success that came from it or or you didn't actually have to get dissatisfied you just found that there was a better way to be successful does that make sense the parv that was striking when you're just saying that for me it was like I feel like we often live in fear of what people think um how you're going to be judged how you're going to be received if you you're free outspoken you're going to lose your job you're going to be fired I've always been a outspoken person I think that's just been a quality I've never been a follower um I don't like to conform to how people expect what people of what people expect from you as I said I was having a success and I was like okay now I'm on I'm at the top what can I do with it yeah and there are so many causes there's so many problems out there and there's so many so many amazing causes and which one you know there's only one of you so like what where do you put the focus and that's take it took a long long time to really find what that was for me I think for me education was something that I felt extremely passionate about because I I've been out to India I'd been out into some of the really poorest places like Manila and seeing young kids who are like us but begging for food and not having the same opportunities and for me that was that broke my heart and realized how privileged we are and how fortunate we are it was like I want to be working with people out there that are trying to create more you know there's over 100 million kids that don't have access to school or education so how can I get involved in that so align yourself with people that do but I think I was I was winning and it was giving me that tip of happiness but then I would kind of drop back down to normality and there was something missing and it was that purpose really or understanding what that purpose was and understanding what why you've been put here why are you beginning the platform that you've that you've been given why were the only you know only people of color this whole time through it all and when I started speaking about um diversity people like oh you want to get more people of coloring as as racing drivers only 20 of us so as I know it's this forty thousand forty fifty thousand jobs there's thousands of engineering jobs in the background and there's such a lack of diversity coming through I want to be a part of Shifting that narrative and shifting that conversation and having people be question themselves and have those difficult conversations with with people so I first I just started by having those difficult conversations with my boss and one of the things he brings up that he said that hit him hard I said have you ever thought of as a white person walking into the paddock into the race weekend Paddock and being the only white person there he's like he's like I hadn't even thought of that I said well that's what it's like for someone like me when I'm in the room you noticed you noticed that out of 50 people in a meeting you're the only person the black person there and it's not because we are less is because there are these barriers within Society through education that are limiting people to be the best they can be so my job is to be empowering and improving representation I'm really really passionate like black Equity as well so that's why I got involved with the Denver Broncos Denver Broncos yeah yeah and usually when I'm in conversation with sponsors or companies I'm like hey so what it how diverse is your team what are you doing about diversity inclusion how are you creating a better work workspace for people that's what I want to be a part of I the success can come later and that's that would be along the way but if you're not asking those questions or you're not tackling those issues then we're not blind yeah and so all them pretty much every partner that we have we have a lot of Partners within our team I've asked these really difficult questions and they're like oh you know what but we can do more I'm like well let's do it you know yeah so I think I've grown very close with my like Mercedes-Benz and Gamma they've been so open that we changed the car from Silver to Black in 2020. and as again I said to them like the car's been silver forever it's always been silver arrows and I was like imagine if we change the card to Black well that could you know us turning up and arriving is how you show up and it's how you know imagine the message we can send and we had the black car for the whole year and we didn't even really talk much about it we just let it be and we went with it and that's when I won myself with that car so that's beautiful now that must have felt special it was honestly my whole life flashed by my not that last lap in Turkey my whole life like all the struggles the questioning whether you were going to make it or not just all those doubts all those fears kind of flash by Me by you know through my eyes and came across the line and I was like I did it and I wanted the kids out there to know that you can do it too you know um so that's what I try and like every day just try to be encouraging of kitchen yeah yeah do you sometimes feel that we were talking about this a bit earlier that you know in other sports we get to see the emotions and the expressions of players that we love or you know anyone who's on the court or the field of the pitch whereas with you because we don't get to see that in your eyes in your last lap like that we can only hear it today which is why I'm so grateful to have this moment because I obviously whenever whenever I'm sit down with someone who's a high performer like you it's obvious that there's so much emotion and preparation and power but with racing specifically you just don't get to see that do you sometimes feel that the only people that can truly relate to you are the people you compete with because I feel like it's like you said there's only 20 of you that are racing anyway it's lonely anyway 99 of people in the world have no idea what it feels like to drive a car as fast as you do and the way you do in in any comparison do you sometimes feel that the only people you can relate to are the people that are racing against you and then do you kind of feel is there a loneliness in that experience or is that kind of like a power in that as well definitely the other drivers I do feel that there's more we have a lot more in common than we think but we're so competitive and a lot of us have our defense like you want to beat the guy but then you like the guy you might like the person outside the car but you can't show that like there's this whole psychological battle you're having with yourself and getting away of yourself a lot of the time so I really feel like as an older driver I'm trying to be more like reaching out to youngsters and um because they're the future you know um and I'm excited to see some of these young drivers are coming through are so so talented I don't know if they've got the best structure around them like I mean like I didn't necessarily have the ultimate structure that I perhaps have now so just try to be a kind of a positive light to them but naturally none of them are black and none of them have necessarily faced the same as me but they've faced their own challenges and and things about respecting that with within everybody and I've tried to be create allies necessarily like in having the difficult conversations with some of them I mean I'm so grateful for I've had a couple of them it really took the knee with me in 2020 um just on that you know my dad was going back to the house with my dad my dad like never let me cry as a kid he said there's a sign of weakness like don't let me ever see you shed a tear so I remember just holding back through those difficult times as a kid holding back most of that stuff in 2020 I cried I hadn't cried for at least I think at least 10 years maybe more it was there was a lot of bottled up stuff that came up that I had not realized that didn't even know about suppressing a pain or a feeling so I remember kind of bending on my knees thinking no what has happened in the world I've got to I've got to be outspoken I've got to take that chance because if I don't do it then no one's gonna do it if I don't if I don't take the knee if I don't let people like me know that I care and I hear you and I'm I'm with you and I'm going to do something about it I'm going to risk it all I don't care if my partners want to drop me because I want to be associated with this narrative I don't I'm like and I literally let go of all the fear and that's why I went came so forward with it and I know it's not easy for everyone to do that um but I just want to really and try to encourage people out there too to be themselves to speak out if they've got a problem if they're seeing something within the work working environment or experiencing something you gotta be outspoken about it and there's a right way to do it the first day I was going to take the knee I remember I didn't feel like I could tell my team I was like because I know I felt that they wouldn't understand how important it is for me to do this this day so I remember I had my black lives matter a shirt hidden and I just wore it out there and I I went ahead within so no one knew no one knew but every uh the sport had built and made all these t-shirts like um we race as one yeah slogan and they gave these t-shirts to all the to everybody I was like I'm not wearing that that's not what this is about and so this is what I'm doing and this was around George Floyd right yeah and afterwards my team were like well why don't you if you just told us we could have prepared a bit over I had this fear that they would try and stop me perhaps but that was just a fear um they've been massively supportive through the whole thing My Hope was that you know kids would be watching me like what it what it what is that why is he taking me what what does that shirt mean what is going on Dad Mom and then the parents being in an awkward position having to explain it maybe but I think what was really encouraging for me I think when we started really getting into the whole diversity inclusion we did the research there was only three percent out of two thousand people in the team as three percent diversity so since then we've been on this Mission the team have started new projects we've discovered that the the sport generally hires from one group of universities which is not diverse and if there are any young black students that go there they're twice as unlikely to be hired when they come out compared to their counterparts and also paid less exercises all these things that perhaps people didn't know that's the Hamilton commission right yeah yeah and that just was interesting to to experience that and now now we're working on like a diversity Charter that all the teams have to be a part of and it's not mine it's for the sport and it's to encourage those teams because there's still not any diversity within you know if you look at Ferrari they don't have hardly any there's most teams don't um but when I go back to my team to the factory normally in our marketing department wasn't very diverse initially and I walked in after the pandemic and I started seeing such a more diverse group of people I was really quite emotional because I was like oh my God there's I'm starting to see change but you don't see that on TV yeah so when I talk to the to the bosses of the sport I'm like hey you know there's all white men facing oh and and me facing the camera at the start of the race where are the women where are the people of color we've got to be showing some young kids are watching and they're like oh there's a place for me there I can be there I can be an engineer I can be a mechanic or whatever it may be and even for young girls oh I can be a racing driver or an engineer a strategist or whatever you know so representation's so so key to inspiring the young youth especially in these industries that they already have less access to right like that's the point that it's not just it's not just representation because you want them to even have the opportunity it's the fact that there's just no access point which is what you're trying to create I think what's what I find really beautiful about you doing it is you're doing it though when you're like I'm having all my emotions come up at the same time as trying to be a voice for other people and when you're saying like I'm I'm taking a knee because I know I have to make a stand externally but internally you're taking a knee because so much of your own stuff from years ago is coming back up like that must be quite hard when you're that's that strikes me as something that's really inspiring about what you did is that you were going through your own healing at the same time as trying to do healing for the world there is so much healing to do right and I was completely oblivious to that I needed healing I needed to really peel back some of those layers um I think for people that turn into tune into a race and you mentioned earlier on but when you we arrive everything's set up We There is work that we're doing in the background naturally people don't see they just see a show but there is an unbelievable amount of work that goes on in the background um when I talk to people that talk about how much weight you lose they're like yeah you just sit in the car and you drive um there's this huge psychological and emotional roller coaster that you're going through that it would be really hard for people to comprehend and you would mention about all these other athletes you see their faces in other sports you can't see because we've got helmet on but you go through this roller coaster ride in the race and then you get out and they the camera's right in your face you're not prepared for that your emotions are shot particularly if you failed or feel like you failed and you don't always answer the right way if you wear your your heart on your sleeve people that don't necessarily like that necessary always people take advantage of that so then you build up all these protection mechanisms and mechanisms that's not necessarily you and at the core but won't be the safest thing for you you know what I mean like I read something the other day about it's like three steps of you and there's one the one of which you present your uh who you present there's you and your who you are to you and your family and friends and then there's one the part of you the real you that no one ever gets to see and I think just today in today's world it's so vicious on social media it's the media can be you know can really tell you apart and you build up you know like you you make a mistake in something you say in the media and your ridicule Feud you never do it again so you build up and you go more and more in your shell and you become harder for people to really relate to but I think for me what I've realized in these last few years is really peeling back those layers and you know letting people know that I grew up in a council state I you know I've lived on the sofa with my uh my my parents we've had those struggles um the successful people out there you see they too have had those things where we need to show that young kids who are going through that same thing that oh I can if he can get there or they can get there then it must be possible for me too yeah um and like being showing you about vulnerability that's something that I really struggled to to to do for a long long time and um like today that's something I think I'm a lot more open than I've ever ever been yeah I'm not living in fear every day and that's like the most that's the most important thing I think for me personally I'm living a much happier life because I'm I'm a lot more open yeah it's liberating yeah absolutely yeah it's liberating when you finally feel like you're not trapped or you're hiding held or yeah or hiding yeah or hiding my favorite quotes is from my Angelo when she says we are all powerful beyond measure and that really hit home also for me that that's my favorite quote because and I have a tattooed because really we are so we do limit ourselves we get in our own way right along with the other things that get in our way but a lot of our fear stops us from driving forwards from progressing and that's why like I do the craziest things I jump out of planes yeah you've done what 80 jumps yeah like just just I love challenging myself and doing things even though there's maybe fear there but overcoming that fear is like it's the best feeling when you overcome it and you realize that she was all just a bunch of nonsense in your head I want to encourage so all my friends I'm like let's go and do this today they're like are you crazy my dad don't even think as a kid my dad was like is he really my son because I wouldn't do any of these things and even still today um I still find that he's actually done skydiving with my Dad yeah he said he would never do it but he did it so but driving 200 miles per hour is probably one of the scariest things that you do all the time like that's not for you anymore whatever things I've never had that fear yeah uh as a kid and I was just never you know I think if you go on a ski slope and you see these kids coming by the kids are generally Fearless right yeah but think as you go get older yes you start you hurt yourself a little bit you start protecting yourself more and more but I just don't have that I think I feel like that was something that just wasn't necessarily put in me I'm terrified of spiders yeah that's the only thing but I'm doing 200 miles an hour that's actually when I'm most at peace I would say yeah it's like I'm like flowing it's like my that's my element and that's why I like I love doing what I do it could be really really hard when I start racing I've been doing for 30 years I'm 37 I've been racing 30 years and when you stop like what what's gonna match that nothing's gonna have a probably a match being in the stadium or being at the race and being at the Pinnacle the sport being at the front of the greater or coming through the grid that motion that I get there when I do stop that will be a there'll be a big hole Yeah so I'm trying to generally focus on things find things that are going to replace that that will also be just as rewarding and that's like Mission 44 for me meeting kids at schools having these conversations with families and parents who clearly you're going through difficult times and want to create the best opportunity for their kids encouraging them they're like okay I've been there too look where I got so you can get there it's just got to work through it that's for me the that's way more rewarding than winning the race yeah so much more yeah that's I'm so grateful and I'm so happy that everyone's gonna getting to hear this I felt you're the only and I know you know you're talking about when that happens but it's brilliant that you're planning already because you can see how so many athletes mentally when they know their career has somewhat of a shelf life or a somewhat of a time span like it's so hot it's it just completely wrote but I remember you're reminding me of when I had the fortune of sitting down with Kobe Bryant and I said sat down with him when he'd already retired wow and I interviewed him oh so great I'm so jealous he was one of those people that was not upset being retired he loved it because he knew that his mission for him was to make these short movies and make all these uh Sports based content to inspire kids to tell their stories and to help them find better stories and so it's exactly what you're saying where he wasn't he's one of those people that I've met he was not sad about he was so happy he was so pumped that's what I'm working towards yeah because he he knew that he had a mission and he had a purpose and he'd gone and won an Oscar for a short movie that he'd made and you know he was creating content to inspire kids and that's where his heart was and of course watching his daughters play and so I'm super inspired by him yeah I know but yeah like when you said that that's what I remembered and and he was in the same boat he was like I always wanted to script right and never had time to script right he said I was always playing basketball and he goes but then I started script writing and I got a coach and then I was writing and getting better as a writer that's what I think when I've spoken to other athletes we focused so much on that being the best you can be and that one thing that the other things that you also love like if it's playing an instrument or if it's writing scripts like it all falls everything falls away and yeah um how can you come compartmentalize staying in the in the zone in the focus Lane but also building up some of those other skills and discovering other passions you know people's we've heard people tell LeBron shut up and dribble like yeah that's there there's a lot of people put you in the box and say this you can only do one thing but as I've seen and spoken to some people that are active and retired a lot of them say when particularly when they retire that they everything kind of fell apart like everything fell to the ground they had nothing to back it up with and they hadn't discovered what they're doing next so then they go through this emotional Journey um of of Discovery but it takes time so I'm like trying to learn from those things and applying them and find the other things that I'm passionate about so I generally feel today that I have lots of things in the pipeline that when I do stop it's gonna be like so grateful but I have something better that I'm moving on to yeah um but I I have no doubts that I oh me and my dad will always have to go to the go-kart track or something you know I'm always going to be competitive yeah I can't that's literally a strain in My DNA that's just never gonna gonna shift I'm competitive at everything I'm happy to hear that it's it's it's I'm sure that's refreshing it's great for people to also hear that even to inspire young people or Inspire anyone who's gone to a place in their career where they know that there's a certain moment where things are going to wind down but then they're going to transition I think I don't think we celebrate the transitions enough in life and life is made up of transition absolutely and people think that it's maybe less or something but it's yeah it's it's not about that yeah exactly so it's fascinating you found that what are some of these like you said like um you know I've been doing jumps I've been doing this with my friends what are some of the routines that you put into place to help you manage your mindset because I feel like you're you said that being at 200 miles per hour for the duration of a race is like being in flow for you that means you're extremely comfortable with your own thoughts extremely comfortable with being in a high stress high pressure environment but being just with your own self talk to us about how you I mean it sounds like that's always been the case but what have you done to become more and more comfortable with that yeah I think naturally this is the natural ability right but um I've been out of focus for an hour and 45 minutes without making mistakes and that's that's literally insane it's unbelievable dealing with the pressures um a friend actually asked me last night because I talk about we lose a lot of race a lot of weight in the race yes like sometimes you can lose up to 10 pounds like four kilos and people like whoa I need to be particularly in America they're like oh I need to be a racing driver um for the weight loss but this question is my friend asked me the other day that's like where does the where does the weight go like yeah because my suit doesn't because afterwards I weigh less but the I'm like so it must evaporate you somewhere so I've never got to figure out where all that weight actually truly goes because it obviously isn't in sweat but that's like messed my mind about um but the suit definitely is obviously a little bit heavier but um it's about gaining tools and I think as when I was younger I didn't have I knew how to arrive at the race I channeled the so this emotion that I had through whatever those difficulties were into my driving so it's laser focused like if you watch a video for me when I was five years old on Blue Pizza you'll see I'm just laser focused but um being able to control emotions being out to be calm and present staying centered there are loads of obviously different methods that people can use so things that I try to that I've started to incorporate over the years more in my life is things like stretching things like yoga and meditation has been a real that for me was something that I never thought that that I kind of turned a blind eye to it when I was younger I thought that's not gonna be helpful but being able to be sit still for a second and listen to the noises around you um and understand you want to tap into that kind of in a child or whatever it may be that's for me been taking that moment for yourself each day treating yourself with love and being kind to yourself you know because I think for a long time I wasn't kind to myself and that's been a process uh doing things that being purposeful and and having real certain intentions each day no matter how big or small and you know I wake up I'm looking in the mirror brushing your teeth then stop for a second sake this today's gonna be the day today's gonna be great um and no matter what you're faced with you know just whatever you come out with yeah yeah talking to yourself also speaking to people I think is very important I think as a kid as I said I didn't feel like I could speak to people I didn't feel like I could tell my mom about these experiences I felt embarrassed I couldn't tell my dad so I thought he would fulfill think less of me I couldn't talk to any of the teachers couldn't tell my most my friends most of them uh weren't particularly of color so but finding learning to be open and speak to people or find someone to speak to whether it's a therapist or whatever that's that's been a huge um help um I don't not necessarily have a therapist especially someone that I'm able to then just have shoot a with basically yeah um and confide in and Trust like trust has been something that I've never had done didn't trust anybody through those experiments I had as a kid and it's been very very hard to build trust with people but creating allies finding things that are that you have in common with people like my boss for example him and I just breaking each other down and then just having realizing that was similar in many many ways but also very different but that's not what should divide us we can then be allies and so that's why we're working on being the most diverse team we're working on pushing we have we've studied ignite which is about getting you know improving that pipeline of into motorsport for people um from underserved communities and there's so much work to do you're doing it though man I'm trying to I'm trying to and you know to the point you were asking earlier like has has enough been done absolutely not in the industry yes and like you don't feel that yeah and it's not only in either industry it's everywhere and is that your goal to sort in the industry and then expand out or you're starting you're starting across the board anyway yeah yeah that well with the team with where it's we started an organization which called ignite which we both fund and that is focused on the sport Motorsport in general but Mission 44 is focused on a much you know societal challenges and barriers and and education and um that's a focused in the UK at the moment but I want to bring that over to the states absolutely man um you know hopefully by at least 2024 um also just been to Africa and there is so much Beauty there and I really really want to have an imp you know really want to help there as well so yeah um we will continue to expand but we're one of the one of the few black founding non-profit organizations in UK and with um black CEO for example a very diverse group of people um and just having those conversations with people of just what a diverse Workforce means and how that bet can benefit you when you have people from different backgrounds all coming up with a diverse diverse thought and creation it's that's how you have more success yeah it's a no it's a no-brainer when you hear it and you're just like wow that makes so much sense and creativity is better and you you'd be able to come up with far more innovative ideas and you've got so many more cultures now being celebrated involved and I I feel like it's it's interesting to me that the world hasn't caught on with that yet like it's it's interesting that even despite there being progress there's not enough progress but what what is the block like what is the stop is it a mindset is it just habits and laziness like what is the actual like if you got to the core of it from everyone you've been speaking to like what are you what is the issue is the issue that yeah is the issue just laziness and just oh this is the way things have always been or is it or is there actually like a setup I don't have the answer to it I I ask that question all the time and I come up with lots of different theories in my mind um sometimes I'm like maybe people don't just don't care maybe people's problems are so big that they don't have time to focus on other things and it's hard enough just to do the thing that you're focused on or just overcoming the issue that you're overcoming so how am I gonna have more time to yeah to speak about these things why should I take the risk and risk my next step and so I feel like it's about learning to be selfless right and um which is difficult to do if you're not being loving yourself and not in a good place yeah so I think it all comes to us at hopefully a time at a certain point in our lives um but also you know we live in a time where like social media is so it's such a dangerous it's such a powerful tool but it's also can be so dangerous and so dividing and I see people out there today and there's people that I admire that I'm that that I would follow and I'd be like how they projecting something that's not necessarily healthy for you for people out there how are they projecting they're not using this platform to be more inspirational or be more positive and there's others that are but then I don't you can't judge because that's their Journey well you can continue to do is try to you know with that Maya Angelou quote it's about being shining your light as bright as you can possibly get it and hope that by doing it you I think you automatically uh encourage the people around you to want to do the same and I never truly understood that until I see the team that I work with how we all Inspire each other how with this year for example we've had the you know 2022 has been one of the hardest years for us as a team um as we didn't build a great car and we had our struggles as many people do and how we've had to all come closer and the relationship I've had with people that I've worked with this team for 10 years and there's conversations we've had this year people have opened up like they've never opened up before people have cried like it's been it's been beautiful to see yeah I feel like with some a far better team than we've ever been before because we're living with intention we're actually talking about impact that everyone in the team's gone and had diversity inclusion training no one's been kind of like I'm not I'm not going through that class why do I have to go and learn with diversity and inclusions about it I'm and why it doesn't impact me you know people like I understand it doesn't I wouldn't necessarily notice it but I want to understand it more so I can be better in my working environment it's been unbelievable that's amazing also leaders within our sport are now now where we are on a road to being a more diverse and more inclusive sport but I think my job is to continuously make sure that it that that same the effort that we're putting in now doesn't kind of fall away and become kind of you know just because it was um trending yeah yeah yeah that is actually something that's on the top of the list sustainability is on the top of our list and that real true core values we don't go out of our way well you know because a lot of people it's very easy to kind of be led by the money success but making sure you stick to your core values it's so true so important it goes back to what you said though that that's what real leaders do like leaders don't follow what's trending like leaders have focused on transformation and then they're dedicated to transformation and they're going to keep doing it until they see a change whereas followers follow Trends and oh it's not trending now it doesn't matter we'll focus on something else but you know obviously it's so clear just listening to you today and it's amazing Because unless I'm so glad I've had this opportunity to talk to you because I can hear just how deeply dedicated you are to this and how it's at your core it's like it's everything that comes out of your pores today is just you know which is which is really special to see a value being embodied like to empower other people you have to embody the value first it doesn't just you don't just go around empowering people and so to hear how your soul and heart is like completely a sponge for this stuff and then to wanting to go and share it with the world it's really remarkable man ah thank you yeah well I mean it's I've I'm by far perfect no yeah I know and I think that's like it's not about being perfect it's about just every day one step at a time trying to be better trying to do more yeah and um learning a lot about myself I've had to break myself down in order to be able to be better and what do you mean by breaking yourself down uh well just when you when I told you about like all those barriers you put up over time to protect yourself and then kind of like knocking those barriers down yes and it's enabled me to connect with more people it's enabled me to realize my place in the world and I don't feel like I don't belong anymore I feel like uh you know I've got a place and I've got a purpose and that's and I think a lot of people are struggling to find that purpose but it's okay you'll you will find it do not give up keep getting up you know like just keep saying those things to yourself and you will eventually find it and you know you're already living in your purpose and having such a huge impact on so many people you know telling stories which uh is it's amazing to see um I started this production company inspired by like Kobe and so many out there but stories for me storytelling I watch a lot of movies I don't know about you but yeah I love movies especially Sports movies yeah like when I go home I'll like I you know order takeaway or make myself some pasta or something like that and then I put the plate in front of me and I can't eat till I found something to watch like my my Escape is watching a movie and I always like to find something hopefully inspiring yes but what the reason I created this um production company is because you know until recently we didn't have any people of color are superheroes We I think these stories storytelling is so so important for people out there for inspiring people and and I want to make sure that in and everything that I do every project that I work on is with a diverse Workforce like I'm doing this from one movie with um Brad Pitt and Joe kazinski and um but my job is to make sure that it's diverse behind the camera as it is on screen the story is empowering and uplifting um it's not there's no BS in terms of the racing and hopefully one kid will watch it and yeah or more and feel empowered to go and do something great absolutely I love that man I'm so glad you're doing that because when you said do I like movies the movie that came to my mind was uh race have you seen race because yeah so like that the story is unbelievable but when you watch the movie as well it's unbelievable to see what Jesse Owens did like to think that he had to go I can't even imagine I can't you know you just can't imagine if everyone's not seen the movie you have to go see them yeah it's just one of those movies that's like how do you do that like how do you go and race in Nazi Germany like I have like I must have been terrified terrifying and you know there's been so many great stories like that that are out there that need telling yeah um continuously telling yeah 42 is another one yeah 42 is awesome um but yeah there is these really unique people out there I think for me being in this sport being the only one and being the first is that is that has been lonely yeah and that has been really really a difficult thing to kind of understand and and um through my life I know many many people like Jesse for example being the first and only at the time you know I've taken huge inspiration from him Nelson Mandela was like ah he's just one of my biggest biggest Inspirations um I was so so fortunate to get to meet him when I was I was like 23 or something oh wow what was that like yeah ah it was mind-blowing I mean when you when you then I got to form one and you have the success all these things come and you don't even you've dreamed of being a racing driver but you didn't dream that all the other things of all the other things that come along like meeting other unbelievable people I went to Nelson Mandela's 90th birthday in London and I was sat on his table in this huge room full of like Bill Clinton was there like uh Denzel Washington was there open Winfrey sat right next to me like all these people that you would never ever in the million years dream of think you would ever get to meet yeah and then you discover and they're also just human beings with feelings and with emotions and with their own challenges but I was so young at the time it was it was I don't even recognize myself when I look back at me seven years ago I see a shell of me and I think I look today and see myself and know myself so much more um and that's again that's an empowering experience to be in but yeah I went into the room and met him and he sat at his chair and it was like walking into I was like God or like a king you know and his silk shirt was his Aura was something you could see his Aura his smile he was beaming that was the most probably the most impactful day for me um as a youngster wow Lewis it's unbelievable talking to you I mean what you've achieved on the track off the track and now I'm even more excited to see you continue to achieve uh as your journey continues because I'm going to say this and I don't say this often and I genuinely my team can vouch for and everyone else can listen back to any episode I think you're one of the most on-purpose people I've ever interviewed and I appreciate that no and I genuinely like it just there's nothing else that comes from your being apart from what your purpose currently is with Mission 44 and and it's it's really remarkable to meet someone who's so on purpose I don't I genuinely don't have that experience and the only person you reminded me of was Kobe he had it too when I was around him there was no there's nothing else it wasn't like he missed anything he was at peace he was it was peace with purpose you know and you have that same Aura and spirit from from at least my experience thank you so much it's so kind of you yeah and I really mean that I really mean that it's incredible so uh we we end every episode with a Fast Five which means every question has to be answered in one word to one sentence maximum okay and we ask these same questions to every guest that's ever been on the show I should be prepared for that because I've seen you so well no the the first question is what's the best advice you've ever heard or received I think it was the achieve my dad uh never give up that's been like the slogan in the back of my mind every single day the other one would be um just that you'll always be learning and that's what I learned from Nelson Mandela he was like I'm 19 and I'm still learning today and like I was like what can you tell me it's like I'm still learning today and it's okay to be learning you're always going to be learning something new and growing yourself wow that's beautiful very like wow but like guys that was pretty basic but no but it's not it's it's powerful knowing he said that yeah as in the fact that he said that on his 90th birthday that is powerful because it's a long way to go yeah and it's like a lot of people I feel like a lot of people feel by 90 especially him he has so much wisdom to share yeah but the fact that his wisdom was I'm just learning that yeah I'm still learning that's pretty cool all right second question uh what's the worst advice you ever heard or received give up it's just the opposite yeah yeah literally the worst bit of advice and it wasn't I mean it wasn't necessarily advice but I when I was younger there was other parents of other racing drivers I was racing against I remember this one guy and he's like she just you just don't have it you should just give up their parents were saying their parents the grown man in these 40s or 50s told me that and I was eight told you told me yeah to my face and I remember just being so like what am I supposed to do with that what do you mean give up what was the reason I would imagine because I was beating his kid maybe I don't know I never really thought of what the reason would be and the same with teachers you know yeah what is this crap you know you're terrible at this you'll never know go to the next set you're never gonna amount to anything why are you even here I had a parent I had a teacher tell me that and wow it broke me down so much question number three uh how do you deal with loss and how do you deal with the win I think success is as I mentioned earlier short-lived success is there's a lot less learn in succ	you have to go see them yeah it's just one of those movies that's like how do you do that like how do you go and race in Nazi Germany like I have like I must have been terrified terrifying and you know there's been so many great stories like that that are out there that need telling yeah um continuously telling yeah 42 is another one yeah 42 is awesome um but yeah there is these really unique people out there I think for me being in this sport being the only one and being the first is that is that has been lonely yeah and that has been really really a difficult thing to kind of understand and and um through my life I know many many people like Jesse for example being the first and only at the time you know I've taken huge inspiration from him Nelson Mandela was like ah he's just one of my biggest biggest Inspirations um I was so so fortunate to get to meet him when I was I was like 23 or something oh wow what was that like yeah ah it was mind-blowing I mean when you when you then I got to form one and you have the success all these things come and you don't even you've dreamed of being a racing driver but you didn't dream that all the other things of all the other things that come along like meeting other unbelievable people I went	8	6	4	you have to go see them yeah it's just one of those movies that's like how do you do that like how do you go and race in Nazi Germany like I have like I must have been terrified terrifying and you know there's been so many great stories like that that are out there that need telling yeah um continuously telling yeah 42 is another one yeah 42 is awesome um but yeah there is these really unique people out there I think for me being in this sport being the only one and being the first is that is that has been lonely yeah and that has been really really a difficult thing to kind of understand and and um through my life I know many many people like Jesse for example being the first and only at the time you know I've taken huge inspiration from him Nelson Mandela was like ah he's just one of my biggest biggest Inspirations um I was so so fortunate to get to meet him when I was I was like 23 or something oh wow what was that like yeah ah it was mind-blowing	what was that like	8,6,5	0,4,3	8	6	5	0	4	3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyiWKXTd9aY	4,235	AyiWKXTd9aY	2023-01-23 00:00:00	I think the easiest thing in life is to give up on whatever you know whatever you're focused on or whatever you're hopeful for the hardest thing is to keep going but we have to like we have to continue to hold on and I would imagine for so many people out there that is probably the most difficult thing the best-selling author and host the number one Health and Wellness podcast on purpose with Jay Shetty hey everyone welcome back to on purpose the number one Health podcast in the world thanks to each and every one of you that come back every week to listen learn and grow now I know that our community is dedicated to living happier healthier and more healed lives and I love sitting down with people who are dedicated to their own happiness their own health their own healing and doing that for the world through their work and I have to be honest it's not every day that you get to sit down with someone you admire you're inspired by you look up to and someone who is truly the definition of the word goat uh I'm talking about the one and only sir Lewis Hamilton seven time Formula One World Champion someone with over a hundred race wins considered the most successful F1 driver of all time and Lewis's willingness to embrace what makes him different has defined his values and outlook on life and in 2014 those values saw him win BBC's Sports personality of the Year followed two years later by a position in Time magazine's 100 most influential people list Lewis received both accolades for a second time in 2020 in a year that saw him become a leading voice in the global fight for racial equality in doing so he was recognized as British gq's Game Changer of the year and Powerless most influential black person in the UK and further to this Lewis won the 2020 glorious Sportsman of the Year award and most notably was formally recognized with a Knighthood in 2020 New Year's honors for his outstanding achievements and contribution to Motorsports on the track and off the track Lewis is also passionate activists for so many underrepresented groups and communities his mission 44 is doing incredible work please welcome to on purpose Lewis Hamilton Lewis thank you for being here thank you so much for having me no this honestly is a special one for me it's been one of those ones that you know when I first launched the podcast there were a few names that I wanted to sit down with and you were one of those names so for me it's a very special moment and for this to be your first ever podcast which you just told me I didn't even know and you literally told me this like 10 minutes ago and in my head I'm thinking wow thank I I'm so grateful to have that honor honestly honest mine I'm really so grateful for everything you do and so I've been following and listening to you and you sent me the book a long time ago already so I really appreciate everything you're doing today oh well thank you man thank you and I'm excited to unpack your journey because as we said because it's your first podcast people have heard parts of you but but we don't really understand the depth and the texture of of Lewis Hamilton and so I guess I want to start in a in a different place and we'll we'll kind of go through on this journey I wanted to ask you what do you feel is the hardest thing you've had to do in order to be who you are today I think continuing to have the belief in myself and not letting that Veer off since I was young since I've been told from my teachers that I would never amount to nothing The Bullying or the things that you face at the adversity you face the discrimination and just continue to keep your head up continuing to to march on ahead uh towards your dream and never lose inside now I think that's definitely for sure the most difficult thing is keeping keeping your goal and your eyes set on that and not being distracted um not giving up I think the easiest thing in life is to give up on whatever you know whatever you're focused on or whatever you're hopeful for the hardest thing is to continue to keep going but we have to like we have to continue to hold on and I would imagine for so many people out there that is that it that is probably the most difficult thing yeah I think that's a great answer because I think people look at you and they assume that you never have to make that choice right they see someone in your position someone who's achieved what you've achieved and the Assumption can be oh yeah but he's the greatest he was he was just always that way and he doesn't have to make that choice every day but as you said since the beginning of your life whether it's childhood whether it's breaking into a sport that wasn't set up for you there have been so many moments let's let's go back to school let's talk about some of that more in depth because I feel like a lot of people struggle at school but you kind of went through a lot of altercations and adversities at that time what were some of the things you were hearing some of the bullying some of the racism the experiences that you had that felt limiting or made it feel like it was easier to give up I think for me I mean school was the most probably the most traumatizing and diff most difficult part of my life wow um I already was being bullied at the age of six um I think at the time that particular school I was probably one of three kids of color and just bigger stronger bullying kids were throwing me around a lot of the time I was always the last picked in the you know when you're standing playground in your uh in the line of when they're picking teams for football I was always the last one chosen or not even chosen even if I was better than somebody else um and then the the constant Jabs the things that are either thrown at you like bananas or people that would use the m word just so relaxed um people calling you half cast and you know just really not knowing where you fit in that for me was difficult when you then go into like history class and everything you learn in history there are no people of color in the history that they were teaching us so I was thinking oh well where are the people that look like me and I mean for me in my school there was only around I think there was around seven maybe six seven black kids out of 1200 kids and three of us were else put outside the headmaster's office all the time the Headmaster just had it out for for us and particularly for me I would say so like just juggling all these different emotions that you're feeling plus I struggled at school I didn't find out till I was 16 that I was dyslexic fortunately I came across a teacher that was actually caring and um took me down that road and helped me discover a little bit more about myself and how I can better myself through education but um I think that for me was that was tough also because I was racing every weekend I would leave on the Thursday night we would travel you know pack up the motorhome we'll travel around the country to race on the weekends and no one else knew when I'd got back to school every all the kids have done normal things on the weekend and I'll come back and say I'm I was racing and people would be like oh I've done that before you know like at this at the theme park or something but no one really knew what my goal was and could really they thought we would maybe it was a joke you missed a lot of that social interaction also I was putting all the lowest sets at school and told that if you do well you can progress and then never ever let me progress no matter how hard I tried um so I really felt that the system was really up against me and I was kind of swimming against the tide but I'm so grateful for that that Journey because that's what built me to the person that I am today but there were a lot of things that I suppressed because I I couldn't go home and say hey to my I didn't feel I could go home and talk to my parents that you know these kids kept calling me them where today I got bullied I got beaten up at school today or I you know I wasn't able to defend myself I didn't want my dad to think I was not strong and so I'll you know if I had tears I would hold them back if I had emotions it would be in a quiet place and um it wasn't really till I started racing that I was able to channel this emotion that I had into my driving and it's like when I put this helmet on Superman was my favorite I loved how he fought for the people and I loved how he did the right things and he was a really inspiring character for me but again no superhero was of color so you know but you can still aspire to be someone that's if they don't look like you you know um and so I remember going to karate I remember putting this helmet on in racing and it felt like it was my cloak you know my superpowers had come out when I was driving and I was battling with these kids and I was doing able to do things that they seemed to not be able to do as well and that was my love wow yeah I mean it's my mind was opposite I was bullied a lot at school as well I was one of five people of color in my primary school and I was also overweight and so I was bullied for that and obviously you know my parents are from Indian backgrounds and so they'd gone through it much worse than I did when when they'd moved to England but the difference was that I would go cry to my mum and then my mum would come try and save the day in school and that was the worst that was so embarrassing like your mum's they're telling the teacher what happened and then I'm like oh no Mom don't do this and then it's even more embarrassing because the kids pick on you going oh mum came to say oh yeah yeah Mommy's right yeah so that that was my version of it I wasn't scared of crying to my mum but then it had it had different things but yeah that that's so hard as a kid when you're going through that and you're trying to find yourself you're trying to figure out what confidence is you don't even know what that means you feel like not going to school but then even though you're saying you found it in racing I mean racing was similar because you were working class you're still to this day the only working-class black driver to do as successfully as you have so not only do you have it at school you also have it in your passion like in the thing that is your cloak is your Superman so how does it feel when you're also dealing with it in that area where you've discovered what your passion or your interest is at that age what does it feel like when you're getting in that space it's inescapable you know you use that as an escape but then you're confronted with it also and so I was just grateful that I had this amazing figure in my dad you know I got a you know my best one of my best friends like his dad was never there I know there's not many people that have separated parents and and being shared between parents is not an easy thing um you know some days with your mom and some days we did that my my mum was the soft loving parent so that's where I really I feel like I learned a lot of compassion and empathy that's where I feel like I get it from her and my dad was at that strong like kind of stronger Rock and also just someone that looked like me on and just he would say do you talking on the track don't be distracted by it don't listen to what they're saying do your driving on track and show let's just be quiet and walk away as well as you know um so but you know again like your parents my parents went through well particularly my dad was someone that also face adversity through his life and he's like I want to do everything in my power to create a better life for my kid so that I don't feel or experience the things that I have encountered and through my through my journey and so but I think for me it was also difficult having biracial you know I'm biracial so having a white mother mother for example and a black dad I knew my dad would understand the racial slurs that I surrounded me my mum couldn't understand it so I couldn't really speak to my mum about it she was loving but she's never been educated within it she didn't know anything about black history and slavery and so it was a very difficult but but I had love there which was the most important thing yeah um but in the racing it was like you know like kids you just want to enjoy yourself you want to be included and you know when you're kind of outcast a little bit it's um it's difficult for kids you know and so that's why today like I'm like if I'm posting something I hope that when I do click that button I hope that it is a positive wave for some of the kids out there that are being distracted by all the stuff that's going on around the world yeah I mean I was I was telling you earlier I was so grateful came out to watch you in Austin a couple of weeks ago and got to meet your dad and I heard you talk about your dad in that way before and so when I met him I was it was I was just you know it's nice to share that with him and I was just saying how beautiful it is to see your relationship and and how it's evolved it's always been that way yeah yeah that's what I thought yeah yeah to walk us through whatever you feel my dad has been like the leader in getting me you know he had four jobs at one stage just to keep us go-karting because when we all started gokind most of the people were majority of the people were from working class families um so but then there are of course a few wealthier kids that have slightly better access to equipment and um mechanics and all those sorts of things and my dad was my mechanic so it was just me and him on the road and and my stepmom Linda um she would be there supporting um making sure that we're fully clothed making sure that we we've eaten and we're hydrated all those sorts of things for the weekend prepare my kid um so it was very much a family outing it was a family kind of um family weekend we did it as a family um we've traveled together my little brother would be on the road with us as well who's a major inspiration you've definitely got to speak to me one day um born with Cerebral Palsy um when I was seven and is a speaker today so he's and racing he's done he's defined all the odds and wow uh even though he's seven years younger than me still very much an inspiration but the thing with my dad was he was maybe he was my manager all the way till I was like 20 I got to we got to phone one and he was he worked so hard his work ethic for me was that that's was inspiring for me seeing how hard he worked the time he gets up in the morning the little sleep that he would have end of his day in the garage working on the go-kart preparing for the weekend packing up the track and getting us to where we are mechanicing learning to be a better mechanic and and still weighing all these different things it was quite phenomenal to see um but I think it was difficult for him to then show me love and sometimes you just want to hug from your dad you know or when you're facing these things you want to be able to be embraced but um when I think I got to when I was 22 23 it got really intense when I got to form one because all of a sudden you're thrown into you go through karting and cars you don't go to school to to learn to speak to the media you're literally thrown into the pit and at the time I didn't have management other than my dad my stepmom were booked flights and trips but um I didn't have PR I didn't have anybody to help protect me or prepare me for things driving I was good I would say but in these things is where a lot of mistakes happened um you've got the the kind of all the media attention and you have to so you're just learning on the go which was very difficult for a youngster I think yeah absolutely and and also I just you wanted to try and live some sort of normal normal life but nothing's normal for you at the time and the thing for me and my dad were just we're really bumping his at one stage it's like I really just want you to be my dad so we can let's go and have fun let's go and have a laugh but we hadn't had that for a long time and so um eventually I decided to sit part ways for my dad and I was like I'm gonna start making some of the decisions for myself and the mistakes that I'm gonna need to make and there was definitely a period of time where we spoke less um but we both have worked so hard to come back together and we have one of the greatest you know he's the first person I want to call when I finish a race um because I know he knows what it's like he was there from day one and so you know he's been to the last two races with me he's probably gonna come to the next one there's days where I do feel like I'm not enough there's days where I don't feel like I'm good enough and people be like yeah but you've won seven World titles anyway yeah but still there's days where I question no you still got it you still are you can you still be the best yes you can and so I have to just always I'm having that conversation with myself often but my dad's also there sometimes I'll say something that's maybe not the most positive and he'll be the one there just reaffirming no you've got this believe in yourself and it's so important for people to have people like that around them and I support myself I surround myself with other positive people as well and we continue I think it's all our job to lift every as many you know everyone up right I want everyone around me to win and yeah um and to become the best versions of themselves so no thank you for sharing that as well thank you for opening up about that because yeah I think the relationships we have with our parents are just so significant when it comes to achievement and success and when you start doing sport at your level even at an early age wins and losses starts becoming so important so win and loss is important in everyone's life in the sense that everyone has it in exams in school and things like that which we'll talk about in a second as well but for you you're having a in a very over way like you have one two three and then you have everyone else and and how have you kind of worked with that since you're young because I can imagine that your psychology can become very much like if you win things are great if you lose things are bad how have you kind of processed that as time's gone on and was there a time when it was unhealthy and difficult and has it got better or is it something you're always working on so on one side of things you know I struggled at school as I said so the teachers would write these reports that I was not focused or I wasn't doing well and and I remember the fear of that report every year and I try so hard to do well and then these teachers I don't know if teachers out there realize when they write those reports what's happening back at home whether you have an abusive uh household or you know the the stress of that was was difficult I feel embracing if I if I would win I could see a smile on my dad's face and it was really like okay if I do well at this I know that I'll be accepted you know um but I go to work double hard to be I've got to always be first I always laugh about the whole if you're not first you last because I'm literally whilst that's obviously I've not been fresh my whole life first was everything yeah um in order to be accepted in order to fit in and maybe to be appreciated um not only in within my relationship perhaps with my dad but then also around my friends and it was until I got older I realized it's about the bigger picture but when you have success it's so short-lived it's like it really is really short-lived you win a race then you go back home and you have big as a racing driver you know the weekend's so intense you've seen it there's so much energy so much it's really really in a stressful environment for everyone that's working within it then you go home and there's a huge come down like one or two days later and you're trying to balance those emotions that emotional rollercoaster um and learning to kind of channel that and figure out ways to keep it balanced whether with your routine and those sorts of things has been really key for me but I think during the last couple of last few years really understanding that it's about the bigger picture um I'm fighting for something far greater than winning a race I'm really fighting for changing the world you know we're more divided than ever I would say it's devastating I can't watch the news it's devastating every there's so much happening but there are so many great people out there that are doing really great things and I want to be one of I want to be a part of that [Music] inspirational energy bubble that people like yourselves are a part of um because we want to we need to create a brighter future we need to create better Future Leaders look how many look how bad our leaders are that are in governments you know like we need to be as part of the next generation of thought leaders um that are positive and um yeah so that's what I'm trying to be a part of every day I'm so I'm really trying to focus on my intentions as you're talking about like setting your intentions each day um I'm trying to learn new tools that I didn't have when I was a kid I didn't I didn't know about yoga I didn't know about meditation um I didn't have podcasts to listen to good people to listen to and aspire to kind of help me put on the right path so yeah um yeah we've got a lot of work to do there's almost not enough time here on this planet right we're here for such a short time really in the Scale of the Universe yeah but I think you're one of those people that you know and that's when we first connected that was one of the biggest reasons for me that I saw you using your platform for a bigger purpose I was like oh that's fascinating like that's so interesting to me because that's a choice too I think today we kind of assume that if someone has a platform or if someone's you know number one in their field or if someone's got followers that they should talk about stuff we kind of assume that anyone who has followers should talk about stuff first of all I don't think that's the case I think a lot of people choose not to uh but but you were someone that stood out to me massively where I was just like wow this person's really not just winning on on the track but it's thinking about how winning on the track transfers to what you can do off the track because of the influence because of your network because of your impact and I find that to be really The Missing Link for so many people because I always say that your purpose is something not just that makes you happy it's when you use what makes you happy to serve other people like when you use it to impact other people's lives when did that drop for you like when did that click for you like were you ever I guess what I'm trying to say is there's a transition when you're saying that well you know winning like maybe get the nod from my dad and obviously I was bullied and then I'm winning but then I'm number one at something like was there a point at which number one didn't satisfy you or was there a point at which the success that came from it or or you didn't actually have to get dissatisfied you just found that there was a better way to be successful does that make sense the parv that was striking when you're just saying that for me it was like I feel like we often live in fear of what people think um how you're going to be judged how you're going to be received if you you're free outspoken you're going to lose your job you're going to be fired I've always been a outspoken person I think that's just been a quality I've never been a follower um I don't like to conform to how people expect what people of what people expect from you as I said I was having a success and I was like okay now I'm on I'm at the top what can I do with it yeah and there are so many causes there's so many problems out there and there's so many so many amazing causes and which one you know there's only one of you so like what where do you put the focus and that's take it took a long long time to really find what that was for me I think for me education was something that I felt extremely passionate about because I I've been out to India I'd been out into some of the really poorest places like Manila and seeing young kids who are like us but begging for food and not having the same opportunities and for me that was that broke my heart and realized how privileged we are and how fortunate we are it was like I want to be working with people out there that are trying to create more you know there's over 100 million kids that don't have access to school or education so how can I get involved in that so align yourself with people that do but I think I was I was winning and it was giving me that tip of happiness but then I would kind of drop back down to normality and there was something missing and it was that purpose really or understanding what that purpose was and understanding what why you've been put here why are you beginning the platform that you've that you've been given why were the only you know only people of color this whole time through it all and when I started speaking about um diversity people like oh you want to get more people of coloring as as racing drivers only 20 of us so as I know it's this forty thousand forty fifty thousand jobs there's thousands of engineering jobs in the background and there's such a lack of diversity coming through I want to be a part of Shifting that narrative and shifting that conversation and having people be question themselves and have those difficult conversations with with people so I first I just started by having those difficult conversations with my boss and one of the things he brings up that he said that hit him hard I said have you ever thought of as a white person walking into the paddock into the race weekend Paddock and being the only white person there he's like he's like I hadn't even thought of that I said well that's what it's like for someone like me when I'm in the room you noticed you noticed that out of 50 people in a meeting you're the only person the black person there and it's not because we are less is because there are these barriers within Society through education that are limiting people to be the best they can be so my job is to be empowering and improving representation I'm really really passionate like black Equity as well so that's why I got involved with the Denver Broncos Denver Broncos yeah yeah and usually when I'm in conversation with sponsors or companies I'm like hey so what it how diverse is your team what are you doing about diversity inclusion how are you creating a better work workspace for people that's what I want to be a part of I the success can come later and that's that would be along the way but if you're not asking those questions or you're not tackling those issues then we're not blind yeah and so all them pretty much every partner that we have we have a lot of Partners within our team I've asked these really difficult questions and they're like oh you know what but we can do more I'm like well let's do it you know yeah so I think I've grown very close with my like Mercedes-Benz and Gamma they've been so open that we changed the car from Silver to Black in 2020. and as again I said to them like the car's been silver forever it's always been silver arrows and I was like imagine if we change the card to Black well that could you know us turning up and arriving is how you show up and it's how you know imagine the message we can send and we had the black car for the whole year and we didn't even really talk much about it we just let it be and we went with it and that's when I won myself with that car so that's beautiful now that must have felt special it was honestly my whole life flashed by my not that last lap in Turkey my whole life like all the struggles the questioning whether you were going to make it or not just all those doubts all those fears kind of flash by Me by you know through my eyes and came across the line and I was like I did it and I wanted the kids out there to know that you can do it too you know um so that's what I try and like every day just try to be encouraging of kitchen yeah yeah do you sometimes feel that we were talking about this a bit earlier that you know in other sports we get to see the emotions and the expressions of players that we love or you know anyone who's on the court or the field of the pitch whereas with you because we don't get to see that in your eyes in your last lap like that we can only hear it today which is why I'm so grateful to have this moment because I obviously whenever whenever I'm sit down with someone who's a high performer like you it's obvious that there's so much emotion and preparation and power but with racing specifically you just don't get to see that do you sometimes feel that the only people that can truly relate to you are the people you compete with because I feel like it's like you said there's only 20 of you that are racing anyway it's lonely anyway 99 of people in the world have no idea what it feels like to drive a car as fast as you do and the way you do in in any comparison do you sometimes feel that the only people you can relate to are the people that are racing against you and then do you kind of feel is there a loneliness in that experience or is that kind of like a power in that as well definitely the other drivers I do feel that there's more we have a lot more in common than we think but we're so competitive and a lot of us have our defense like you want to beat the guy but then you like the guy you might like the person outside the car but you can't show that like there's this whole psychological battle you're having with yourself and getting away of yourself a lot of the time so I really feel like as an older driver I'm trying to be more like reaching out to youngsters and um because they're the future you know um and I'm excited to see some of these young drivers are coming through are so so talented I don't know if they've got the best structure around them like I mean like I didn't necessarily have the ultimate structure that I perhaps have now so just try to be a kind of a positive light to them but naturally none of them are black and none of them have necessarily faced the same as me but they've faced their own challenges and and things about respecting that with within everybody and I've tried to be create allies necessarily like in having the difficult conversations with some of them I mean I'm so grateful for I've had a couple of them it really took the knee with me in 2020 um just on that you know my dad was going back to the house with my dad my dad like never let me cry as a kid he said there's a sign of weakness like don't let me ever see you shed a tear so I remember just holding back through those difficult times as a kid holding back most of that stuff in 2020 I cried I hadn't cried for at least I think at least 10 years maybe more it was there was a lot of bottled up stuff that came up that I had not realized that didn't even know about suppressing a pain or a feeling so I remember kind of bending on my knees thinking no what has happened in the world I've got to I've got to be outspoken I've got to take that chance because if I don't do it then no one's gonna do it if I don't if I don't take the knee if I don't let people like me know that I care and I hear you and I'm I'm with you and I'm going to do something about it I'm going to risk it all I don't care if my partners want to drop me because I want to be associated with this narrative I don't I'm like and I literally let go of all the fear and that's why I went came so forward with it and I know it's not easy for everyone to do that um but I just want to really and try to encourage people out there too to be themselves to speak out if they've got a problem if they're seeing something within the work working environment or experiencing something you gotta be outspoken about it and there's a right way to do it the first day I was going to take the knee I remember I didn't feel like I could tell my team I was like because I know I felt that they wouldn't understand how important it is for me to do this this day so I remember I had my black lives matter a shirt hidden and I just wore it out there and I I went ahead within so no one knew no one knew but every uh the sport had built and made all these t-shirts like um we race as one yeah slogan and they gave these t-shirts to all the to everybody I was like I'm not wearing that that's not what this is about and so this is what I'm doing and this was around George Floyd right yeah and afterwards my team were like well why don't you if you just told us we could have prepared a bit over I had this fear that they would try and stop me perhaps but that was just a fear um they've been massively supportive through the whole thing My Hope was that you know kids would be watching me like what it what it what is that why is he taking me what what does that shirt mean what is going on Dad Mom and then the parents being in an awkward position having to explain it maybe but I think what was really encouraging for me I think when we started really getting into the whole diversity inclusion we did the research there was only three percent out of two thousand people in the team as three percent diversity so since then we've been on this Mission the team have started new projects we've discovered that the the sport generally hires from one group of universities which is not diverse and if there are any young black students that go there they're twice as unlikely to be hired when they come out compared to their counterparts and also paid less exercises all these things that perhaps people didn't know that's the Hamilton commission right yeah yeah and that just was interesting to to experience that and now now we're working on like a diversity Charter that all the teams have to be a part of and it's not mine it's for the sport and it's to encourage those teams because there's still not any diversity within you know if you look at Ferrari they don't have hardly any there's most teams don't um but when I go back to my team to the factory normally in our marketing department wasn't very diverse initially and I walked in after the pandemic and I started seeing such a more diverse group of people I was really quite emotional because I was like oh my God there's I'm starting to see change but you don't see that on TV yeah so when I talk to the to the bosses of the sport I'm like hey you know there's all white men facing oh and and me facing the camera at the start of the race where are the women where are the people of color we've got to be showing some young kids are watching and they're like oh there's a place for me there I can be there I can be an engineer I can be a mechanic or whatever it may be and even for young girls oh I can be a racing driver or an engineer a strategist or whatever you know so representation's so so key to inspiring the young youth especially in these industries that they already have less access to right like that's the point that it's not just it's not just representation because you want them to even have the opportunity it's the fact that there's just no access point which is what you're trying to create I think what's what I find really beautiful about you doing it is you're doing it though when you're like I'm having all my emotions come up at the same time as trying to be a voice for other people and when you're saying like I'm I'm taking a knee because I know I have to make a stand externally but internally you're taking a knee because so much of your own stuff from years ago is coming back up like that must be quite hard when you're that's that strikes me as something that's really inspiring about what you did is that you were going through your own healing at the same time as trying to do healing for the world there is so much healing to do right and I was completely oblivious to that I needed healing I needed to really peel back some of those layers um I think for people that turn into tune into a race and you mentioned earlier on but when you we arrive everything's set up We There is work that we're doing in the background naturally people don't see they just see a show but there is an unbelievable amount of work that goes on in the background um when I talk to people that talk about how much weight you lose they're like yeah you just sit in the car and you drive um there's this huge psychological and emotional roller coaster that you're going through that it would be really hard for people to comprehend and you would mention about all these other athletes you see their faces in other sports you can't see because we've got helmet on but you go through this roller coaster ride in the race and then you get out and they the camera's right in your face you're not prepared for that your emotions are shot particularly if you failed or feel like you failed and you don't always answer the right way if you wear your your heart on your sleeve people that don't necessarily like that necessary always people take advantage of that so then you build up all these protection mechanisms and mechanisms that's not necessarily you and at the core but won't be the safest thing for you you know what I mean like I read something the other day about it's like three steps of you and there's one the one of which you present your uh who you present there's you and your who you are to you and your family and friends and then there's one the part of you the real you that no one ever gets to see and I think just today in today's world it's so vicious on social media it's the media can be you know can really tell you apart and you build up you know like you you make a mistake in something you say in the media and your ridicule Feud you never do it again so you build up and you go more and more in your shell and you become harder for people to really relate to but I think for me what I've realized in these last few years is really peeling back those layers and you know letting people know that I grew up in a council state I you know I've lived on the sofa with my uh my my parents we've had those struggles um the successful people out there you see they too have had those things where we need to show that young kids who are going through that same thing that oh I can if he can get there or they can get there then it must be possible for me too yeah um and like being showing you about vulnerability that's something that I really struggled to to to do for a long long time and um like today that's something I think I'm a lot more open than I've ever ever been yeah I'm not living in fear every day and that's like the most that's the most important thing I think for me personally I'm living a much happier life because I'm I'm a lot more open yeah it's liberating yeah absolutely yeah it's liberating when you finally feel like you're not trapped or you're hiding held or yeah or hiding yeah or hiding my favorite quotes is from my Angelo when she says we are all powerful beyond measure and that really hit home also for me that that's my favorite quote because and I have a tattooed because really we are so we do limit ourselves we get in our own way right along with the other things that get in our way but a lot of our fear stops us from driving forwards from progressing and that's why like I do the craziest things I jump out of planes yeah you've done what 80 jumps yeah like just just I love challenging myself and doing things even though there's maybe fear there but overcoming that fear is like it's the best feeling when you overcome it and you realize that she was all just a bunch of nonsense in your head I want to encourage so all my friends I'm like let's go and do this today they're like are you crazy my dad don't even think as a kid my dad was like is he really my son because I wouldn't do any of these things and even still today um I still find that he's actually done skydiving with my Dad yeah he said he would never do it but he did it so but driving 200 miles per hour is probably one of the scariest things that you do all the time like that's not for you anymore whatever things I've never had that fear yeah uh as a kid and I was just never you know I think if you go on a ski slope and you see these kids coming by the kids are generally Fearless right yeah but think as you go get older yes you start you hurt yourself a little bit you start protecting yourself more and more but I just don't have that I think I feel like that was something that just wasn't necessarily put in me I'm terrified of spiders yeah that's the only thing but I'm doing 200 miles an hour that's actually when I'm most at peace I would say yeah it's like I'm like flowing it's like my that's my element and that's why I like I love doing what I do it could be really really hard when I start racing I've been doing for 30 years I'm 37 I've been racing 30 years and when you stop like what what's gonna match that nothing's gonna have a probably a match being in the stadium or being at the race and being at the Pinnacle the sport being at the front of the greater or coming through the grid that motion that I get there when I do stop that will be a there'll be a big hole Yeah so I'm trying to generally focus on things find things that are going to replace that that will also be just as rewarding and that's like Mission 44 for me meeting kids at schools having these conversations with families and parents who clearly you're going through difficult times and want to create the best opportunity for their kids encouraging them they're like okay I've been there too look where I got so you can get there it's just got to work through it that's for me the that's way more rewarding than winning the race yeah so much more yeah that's I'm so grateful and I'm so happy that everyone's gonna getting to hear this I felt you're the only and I know you know you're talking about when that happens but it's brilliant that you're planning already because you can see how so many athletes mentally when they know their career has somewhat of a shelf life or a somewhat of a time span like it's so hot it's it just completely wrote but I remember you're reminding me of when I had the fortune of sitting down with Kobe Bryant and I said sat down with him when he'd already retired wow and I interviewed him oh so great I'm so jealous he was one of those people that was not upset being retired he loved it because he knew that his mission for him was to make these short movies and make all these uh Sports based content to inspire kids to tell their stories and to help them find better stories and so it's exactly what you're saying where he wasn't he's one of those people that I've met he was not sad about he was so happy he was so pumped that's what I'm working towards yeah because he he knew that he had a mission and he had a purpose and he'd gone and won an Oscar for a short movie that he'd made and you know he was creating content to inspire kids and that's where his heart was and of course watching his daughters play and so I'm super inspired by him yeah I know but yeah like when you said that that's what I remembered and and he was in the same boat he was like I always wanted to script right and never had time to script right he said I was always playing basketball and he goes but then I started script writing and I got a coach and then I was writing and getting better as a writer that's what I think when I've spoken to other athletes we focused so much on that being the best you can be and that one thing that the other things that you also love like if it's playing an instrument or if it's writing scripts like it all falls everything falls away and yeah um how can you come compartmentalize staying in the in the zone in the focus Lane but also building up some of those other skills and discovering other passions you know people's we've heard people tell LeBron shut up and dribble like yeah that's there there's a lot of people put you in the box and say this you can only do one thing but as I've seen and spoken to some people that are active and retired a lot of them say when particularly when they retire that they everything kind of fell apart like everything fell to the ground they had nothing to back it up with and they hadn't discovered what they're doing next so then they go through this emotional Journey um of of Discovery but it takes time so I'm like trying to learn from those things and applying them and find the other things that I'm passionate about so I generally feel today that I have lots of things in the pipeline that when I do stop it's gonna be like so grateful but I have something better that I'm moving on to yeah um but I I have no doubts that I oh me and my dad will always have to go to the go-kart track or something you know I'm always going to be competitive yeah I can't that's literally a strain in My DNA that's just never gonna gonna shift I'm competitive at everything I'm happy to hear that it's it's it's I'm sure that's refreshing it's great for people to also hear that even to inspire young people or Inspire anyone who's gone to a place in their career where they know that there's a certain moment where things are going to wind down but then they're going to transition I think I don't think we celebrate the transitions enough in life and life is made up of transition absolutely and people think that it's maybe less or something but it's yeah it's it's not about that yeah exactly so it's fascinating you found that what are some of these like you said like um you know I've been doing jumps I've been doing this with my friends what are some of the routines that you put into place to help you manage your mindset because I feel like you're you said that being at 200 miles per hour for the duration of a race is like being in flow for you that means you're extremely comfortable with your own thoughts extremely comfortable with being in a high stress high pressure environment but being just with your own self talk to us about how you I mean it sounds like that's always been the case but what have you done to become more and more comfortable with that yeah I think naturally this is the natural ability right but um I've been out of focus for an hour and 45 minutes without making mistakes and that's that's literally insane it's unbelievable dealing with the pressures um a friend actually asked me last night because I talk about we lose a lot of race a lot of weight in the race yes like sometimes you can lose up to 10 pounds like four kilos and people like whoa I need to be particularly in America they're like oh I need to be a racing driver um for the weight loss but this question is my friend asked me the other day that's like where does the where does the weight go like yeah because my suit doesn't because afterwards I weigh less but the I'm like so it must evaporate you somewhere so I've never got to figure out where all that weight actually truly goes because it obviously isn't in sweat but that's like messed my mind about um but the suit definitely is obviously a little bit heavier but um it's about gaining tools and I think as when I was younger I didn't have I knew how to arrive at the race I channeled the so this emotion that I had through whatever those difficulties were into my driving so it's laser focused like if you watch a video for me when I was five years old on Blue Pizza you'll see I'm just laser focused but um being able to control emotions being out to be calm and present staying centered there are loads of obviously different methods that people can use so things that I try to that I've started to incorporate over the years more in my life is things like stretching things like yoga and meditation has been a real that for me was something that I never thought that that I kind of turned a blind eye to it when I was younger I thought that's not gonna be helpful but being able to be sit still for a second and listen to the noises around you um and understand you want to tap into that kind of in a child or whatever it may be that's for me been taking that moment for yourself each day treating yourself with love and being kind to yourself you know because I think for a long time I wasn't kind to myself and that's been a process uh doing things that being purposeful and and having real certain intentions each day no matter how big or small and you know I wake up I'm looking in the mirror brushing your teeth then stop for a second sake this today's gonna be the day today's gonna be great um and no matter what you're faced with you know just whatever you come out with yeah yeah talking to yourself also speaking to people I think is very important I think as a kid as I said I didn't feel like I could speak to people I didn't feel like I could tell my mom about these experiences I felt embarrassed I couldn't tell my dad so I thought he would fulfill think less of me I couldn't talk to any of the teachers couldn't tell my most my friends most of them uh weren't particularly of color so but finding learning to be open and speak to people or find someone to speak to whether it's a therapist or whatever that's that's been a huge um help um I don't not necessarily have a therapist especially someone that I'm able to then just have shoot a with basically yeah um and confide in and Trust like trust has been something that I've never had done didn't trust anybody through those experiments I had as a kid and it's been very very hard to build trust with people but creating allies finding things that are that you have in common with people like my boss for example him and I just breaking each other down and then just having realizing that was similar in many many ways but also very different but that's not what should divide us we can then be allies and so that's why we're working on being the most diverse team we're working on pushing we have we've studied ignite which is about getting you know improving that pipeline of into motorsport for people um from underserved communities and there's so much work to do you're doing it though man I'm trying to I'm trying to and you know to the point you were asking earlier like has has enough been done absolutely not in the industry yes and like you don't feel that yeah and it's not only in either industry it's everywhere and is that your goal to sort in the industry and then expand out or you're starting you're starting across the board anyway yeah yeah that well with the team with where it's we started an organization which called ignite which we both fund and that is focused on the sport Motorsport in general but Mission 44 is focused on a much you know societal challenges and barriers and and education and um that's a focused in the UK at the moment but I want to bring that over to the states absolutely man um you know hopefully by at least 2024 um also just been to Africa and there is so much Beauty there and I really really want to have an imp you know really want to help there as well so yeah um we will continue to expand but we're one of the one of the few black founding non-profit organizations in UK and with um black CEO for example a very diverse group of people um and just having those conversations with people of just what a diverse Workforce means and how that bet can benefit you when you have people from different backgrounds all coming up with a diverse diverse thought and creation it's that's how you have more success yeah it's a no it's a no-brainer when you hear it and you're just like wow that makes so much sense and creativity is better and you you'd be able to come up with far more innovative ideas and you've got so many more cultures now being celebrated involved and I I feel like it's it's interesting to me that the world hasn't caught on with that yet like it's it's interesting that even despite there being progress there's not enough progress but what what is the block like what is the stop is it a mindset is it just habits and laziness like what is the actual like if you got to the core of it from everyone you've been speaking to like what are you what is the issue is the issue that yeah is the issue just laziness and just oh this is the way things have always been or is it or is there actually like a setup I don't have the answer to it I I ask that question all the time and I come up with lots of different theories in my mind um sometimes I'm like maybe people don't just don't care maybe people's problems are so big that they don't have time to focus on other things and it's hard enough just to do the thing that you're focused on or just overcoming the issue that you're overcoming so how am I gonna have more time to yeah to speak about these things why should I take the risk and risk my next step and so I feel like it's about learning to be selfless right and um which is difficult to do if you're not being loving yourself and not in a good place yeah so I think it all comes to us at hopefully a time at a certain point in our lives um but also you know we live in a time where like social media is so it's such a dangerous it's such a powerful tool but it's also can be so dangerous and so dividing and I see people out there today and there's people that I admire that I'm that that I would follow and I'd be like how they projecting something that's not necessarily healthy for you for people out there how are they projecting they're not using this platform to be more inspirational or be more positive and there's others that are but then I don't you can't judge because that's their Journey well you can continue to do is try to you know with that Maya Angelou quote it's about being shining your light as bright as you can possibly get it and hope that by doing it you I think you automatically uh encourage the people around you to want to do the same and I never truly understood that until I see the team that I work with how we all Inspire each other how with this year for example we've had the you know 2022 has been one of the hardest years for us as a team um as we didn't build a great car and we had our struggles as many people do and how we've had to all come closer and the relationship I've had with people that I've worked with this team for 10 years and there's conversations we've had this year people have opened up like they've never opened up before people have cried like it's been it's been beautiful to see yeah I feel like with some a far better team than we've ever been before because we're living with intention we're actually talking about impact that everyone in the team's gone and had diversity inclusion training no one's been kind of like I'm not I'm not going through that class why do I have to go and learn with diversity and inclusions about it I'm and why it doesn't impact me you know people like I understand it doesn't I wouldn't necessarily notice it but I want to understand it more so I can be better in my working environment it's been unbelievable that's amazing also leaders within our sport are now now where we are on a road to being a more diverse and more inclusive sport but I think my job is to continuously make sure that it that that same the effort that we're putting in now doesn't kind of fall away and become kind of you know just because it was um trending yeah yeah yeah that is actually something that's on the top of the list sustainability is on the top of our list and that real true core values we don't go out of our way well you know because a lot of people it's very easy to kind of be led by the money success but making sure you stick to your core values it's so true so important it goes back to what you said though that that's what real leaders do like leaders don't follow what's trending like leaders have focused on transformation and then they're dedicated to transformation and they're going to keep doing it until they see a change whereas followers follow Trends and oh it's not trending now it doesn't matter we'll focus on something else but you know obviously it's so clear just listening to you today and it's amazing Because unless I'm so glad I've had this opportunity to talk to you because I can hear just how deeply dedicated you are to this and how it's at your core it's like it's everything that comes out of your pores today is just you know which is which is really special to see a value being embodied like to empower other people you have to embody the value first it doesn't just you don't just go around empowering people and so to hear how your soul and heart is like completely a sponge for this stuff and then to wanting to go and share it with the world it's really remarkable man ah thank you yeah well I mean it's I've I'm by far perfect no yeah I know and I think that's like it's not about being perfect it's about just every day one step at a time trying to be better trying to do more yeah and um learning a lot about myself I've had to break myself down in order to be able to be better and what do you mean by breaking yourself down uh well just when you when I told you about like all those barriers you put up over time to protect yourself and then kind of like knocking those barriers down yes and it's enabled me to connect with more people it's enabled me to realize my place in the world and I don't feel like I don't belong anymore I feel like uh you know I've got a place and I've got a purpose and that's and I think a lot of people are struggling to find that purpose but it's okay you'll you will find it do not give up keep getting up you know like just keep saying those things to yourself and you will eventually find it and you know you're already living in your purpose and having such a huge impact on so many people you know telling stories which uh is it's amazing to see um I started this production company inspired by like Kobe and so many out there but stories for me storytelling I watch a lot of movies I don't know about you but yeah I love movies especially Sports movies yeah like when I go home I'll like I you know order takeaway or make myself some pasta or something like that and then I put the plate in front of me and I can't eat till I found something to watch like my my Escape is watching a movie and I always like to find something hopefully inspiring yes but what the reason I created this um production company is because you know until recently we didn't have any people of color are superheroes We I think these stories storytelling is so so important for people out there for inspiring people and and I want to make sure that in and everything that I do every project that I work on is with a diverse Workforce like I'm doing this from one movie with um Brad Pitt and Joe kazinski and um but my job is to make sure that it's diverse behind the camera as it is on screen the story is empowering and uplifting um it's not there's no BS in terms of the racing and hopefully one kid will watch it and yeah or more and feel empowered to go and do something great absolutely I love that man I'm so glad you're doing that because when you said do I like movies the movie that came to my mind was uh race have you seen race because yeah so like that the story is unbelievable but when you watch the movie as well it's unbelievable to see what Jesse Owens did like to think that he had to go I can't even imagine I can't you know you just can't imagine if everyone's not seen the movie you have to go see them yeah it's just one of those movies that's like how do you do that like how do you go and race in Nazi Germany like I have like I must have been terrified terrifying and you know there's been so many great stories like that that are out there that need telling yeah um continuously telling yeah 42 is another one yeah 42 is awesome um but yeah there is these really unique people out there I think for me being in this sport being the only one and being the first is that is that has been lonely yeah and that has been really really a difficult thing to kind of understand and and um through my life I know many many people like Jesse for example being the first and only at the time you know I've taken huge inspiration from him Nelson Mandela was like ah he's just one of my biggest biggest Inspirations um I was so so fortunate to get to meet him when I was I was like 23 or something oh wow what was that like yeah ah it was mind-blowing I mean when you when you then I got to form one and you have the success all these things come and you don't even you've dreamed of being a racing driver but you didn't dream that all the other things of all the other things that come along like meeting other unbelievable people I went to Nelson Mandela's 90th birthday in London and I was sat on his table in this huge room full of like Bill Clinton was there like uh Denzel Washington was there open Winfrey sat right next to me like all these people that you would never ever in the million years dream of think you would ever get to meet yeah and then you discover and they're also just human beings with feelings and with emotions and with their own challenges but I was so young at the time it was it was I don't even recognize myself when I look back at me seven years ago I see a shell of me and I think I look today and see myself and know myself so much more um and that's again that's an empowering experience to be in but yeah I went into the room and met him and he sat at his chair and it was like walking into I was like God or like a king you know and his silk shirt was his Aura was something you could see his Aura his smile he was beaming that was the most probably the most impactful day for me um as a youngster wow Lewis it's unbelievable talking to you I mean what you've achieved on the track off the track and now I'm even more excited to see you continue to achieve uh as your journey continues because I'm going to say this and I don't say this often and I genuinely my team can vouch for and everyone else can listen back to any episode I think you're one of the most on-purpose people I've ever interviewed and I appreciate that no and I genuinely like it just there's nothing else that comes from your being apart from what your purpose currently is with Mission 44 and and it's it's really remarkable to meet someone who's so on purpose I don't I genuinely don't have that experience and the only person you reminded me of was Kobe he had it too when I was around him there was no there's nothing else it wasn't like he missed anything he was at peace he was it was peace with purpose you know and you have that same Aura and spirit from from at least my experience thank you so much it's so kind of you yeah and I really mean that I really mean that it's incredible so uh we we end every episode with a Fast Five which means every question has to be answered in one word to one sentence maximum okay and we ask these same questions to every guest that's ever been on the show I should be prepared for that because I've seen you so well no the the first question is what's the best advice you've ever heard or received I think it was the achieve my dad uh never give up that's been like the slogan in the back of my mind every single day the other one would be um just that you'll always be learning and that's what I learned from Nelson Mandela he was like I'm 19 and I'm still learning today and like I was like what can you tell me it's like I'm still learning today and it's okay to be learning you're always going to be learning something new and growing yourself wow that's beautiful very like wow but like guys that was pretty basic but no but it's not it's it's powerful knowing he said that yeah as in the fact that he said that on his 90th birthday that is powerful because it's a long way to go yeah and it's like a lot of people I feel like a lot of people feel by 90 especially him he has so much wisdom to share yeah but the fact that his wisdom was I'm just learning that yeah I'm still learning that's pretty cool all right second question uh what's the worst advice you ever heard or received give up it's just the opposite yeah yeah literally the worst bit of advice and it wasn't I mean it wasn't necessarily advice but I when I was younger there was other parents of other racing drivers I was racing against I remember this one guy and he's like she just you just don't have it you should just give up their parents were saying their parents the grown man in these 40s or 50s told me that and I was eight told you told me yeah to my face and I remember just being so like what am I supposed to do with that what do you mean give up what was the reason I would imagine because I was beating his kid maybe I don't know I never really thought of what the reason would be and the same with teachers you know yeah what is this crap you know you're terrible at this you'll never know go to the next set you're never gonna amount to anything why are you even here I had a parent I had a teacher tell me that and wow it broke me down so much question number three uh how do you deal with loss and how do you deal with the win I think success is as I mentioned earlier short-lived success is there's a lot less learn in succ	to Nelson Mandela's 90th birthday in London and I was sat on his table in this huge room full of like Bill Clinton was there like uh Denzel Washington was there open Winfrey sat right next to me like all these people that you would never ever in the million years dream of think you would ever get to meet yeah and then you discover and they're also just human beings with feelings and with emotions and with their own challenges but I was so young at the time it was it was I don't even recognize myself when I look back at me seven years ago I see a shell of me and I think I look today and see myself and know myself so much more um and that's again that's an empowering experience to be in but yeah I went into the room and met him and he sat at his chair and it was like walking into I was like God or like a king you know and his silk shirt was his Aura was something you could see his Aura his smile he was beaming that was the most probably the most impactful day for me um as a youngster wow Lewis it's unbelievable talking to you I mean what you've achieved on the track off the track and now I'm even more excited to see you continue to achieve uh as your journey continues because I'm going to say this and I don't say	8	6	5	to Nelson Mandela's 90th birthday in London and I was sat on his table in this huge room full of like Bill Clinton was there like uh Denzel Washington was there open Winfrey sat right next to me like all these people that you would never ever in the million years dream of think you would ever get to meet yeah and then you discover and they're also just human beings with feelings and with emotions and with their own challenges but I was so young at the time it was it was I don't even recognize myself when I look back at me seven years ago I see a shell of me and I think I look today and see myself and know myself so much more um and that's again that's an empowering experience to be in but yeah I went into the room and met him and he sat at his chair and it was like walking into I was like God or like a king you know and his silk shirt was his Aura was something you could see his Aura his smile he was beaming that was the most probably the most impactful day for me um as a youngster	wow Lewis it's unbelievable talking to you I mean what you've achieved on the track off the track and now I'm even more excited to see you continue to achieve uh as your journey continues because I'm going to say this and I don't say	8,6,8	9,8,5	8	6	8	9	8	5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyiWKXTd9aY	4,235	AyiWKXTd9aY	2023-01-23 00:00:00	I think the easiest thing in life is to give up on whatever you know whatever you're focused on or whatever you're hopeful for the hardest thing is to keep going but we have to like we have to continue to hold on and I would imagine for so many people out there that is probably the most difficult thing the best-selling author and host the number one Health and Wellness podcast on purpose with Jay Shetty hey everyone welcome back to on purpose the number one Health podcast in the world thanks to each and every one of you that come back every week to listen learn and grow now I know that our community is dedicated to living happier healthier and more healed lives and I love sitting down with people who are dedicated to their own happiness their own health their own healing and doing that for the world through their work and I have to be honest it's not every day that you get to sit down with someone you admire you're inspired by you look up to and someone who is truly the definition of the word goat uh I'm talking about the one and only sir Lewis Hamilton seven time Formula One World Champion someone with over a hundred race wins considered the most successful F1 driver of all time and Lewis's willingness to embrace what makes him different has defined his values and outlook on life and in 2014 those values saw him win BBC's Sports personality of the Year followed two years later by a position in Time magazine's 100 most influential people list Lewis received both accolades for a second time in 2020 in a year that saw him become a leading voice in the global fight for racial equality in doing so he was recognized as British gq's Game Changer of the year and Powerless most influential black person in the UK and further to this Lewis won the 2020 glorious Sportsman of the Year award and most notably was formally recognized with a Knighthood in 2020 New Year's honors for his outstanding achievements and contribution to Motorsports on the track and off the track Lewis is also passionate activists for so many underrepresented groups and communities his mission 44 is doing incredible work please welcome to on purpose Lewis Hamilton Lewis thank you for being here thank you so much for having me no this honestly is a special one for me it's been one of those ones that you know when I first launched the podcast there were a few names that I wanted to sit down with and you were one of those names so for me it's a very special moment and for this to be your first ever podcast which you just told me I didn't even know and you literally told me this like 10 minutes ago and in my head I'm thinking wow thank I I'm so grateful to have that honor honestly honest mine I'm really so grateful for everything you do and so I've been following and listening to you and you sent me the book a long time ago already so I really appreciate everything you're doing today oh well thank you man thank you and I'm excited to unpack your journey because as we said because it's your first podcast people have heard parts of you but but we don't really understand the depth and the texture of of Lewis Hamilton and so I guess I want to start in a in a different place and we'll we'll kind of go through on this journey I wanted to ask you what do you feel is the hardest thing you've had to do in order to be who you are today I think continuing to have the belief in myself and not letting that Veer off since I was young since I've been told from my teachers that I would never amount to nothing The Bullying or the things that you face at the adversity you face the discrimination and just continue to keep your head up continuing to to march on ahead uh towards your dream and never lose inside now I think that's definitely for sure the most difficult thing is keeping keeping your goal and your eyes set on that and not being distracted um not giving up I think the easiest thing in life is to give up on whatever you know whatever you're focused on or whatever you're hopeful for the hardest thing is to continue to keep going but we have to like we have to continue to hold on and I would imagine for so many people out there that is that it that is probably the most difficult thing yeah I think that's a great answer because I think people look at you and they assume that you never have to make that choice right they see someone in your position someone who's achieved what you've achieved and the Assumption can be oh yeah but he's the greatest he was he was just always that way and he doesn't have to make that choice every day but as you said since the beginning of your life whether it's childhood whether it's breaking into a sport that wasn't set up for you there have been so many moments let's let's go back to school let's talk about some of that more in depth because I feel like a lot of people struggle at school but you kind of went through a lot of altercations and adversities at that time what were some of the things you were hearing some of the bullying some of the racism the experiences that you had that felt limiting or made it feel like it was easier to give up I think for me I mean school was the most probably the most traumatizing and diff most difficult part of my life wow um I already was being bullied at the age of six um I think at the time that particular school I was probably one of three kids of color and just bigger stronger bullying kids were throwing me around a lot of the time I was always the last picked in the you know when you're standing playground in your uh in the line of when they're picking teams for football I was always the last one chosen or not even chosen even if I was better than somebody else um and then the the constant Jabs the things that are either thrown at you like bananas or people that would use the m word just so relaxed um people calling you half cast and you know just really not knowing where you fit in that for me was difficult when you then go into like history class and everything you learn in history there are no people of color in the history that they were teaching us so I was thinking oh well where are the people that look like me and I mean for me in my school there was only around I think there was around seven maybe six seven black kids out of 1200 kids and three of us were else put outside the headmaster's office all the time the Headmaster just had it out for for us and particularly for me I would say so like just juggling all these different emotions that you're feeling plus I struggled at school I didn't find out till I was 16 that I was dyslexic fortunately I came across a teacher that was actually caring and um took me down that road and helped me discover a little bit more about myself and how I can better myself through education but um I think that for me was that was tough also because I was racing every weekend I would leave on the Thursday night we would travel you know pack up the motorhome we'll travel around the country to race on the weekends and no one else knew when I'd got back to school every all the kids have done normal things on the weekend and I'll come back and say I'm I was racing and people would be like oh I've done that before you know like at this at the theme park or something but no one really knew what my goal was and could really they thought we would maybe it was a joke you missed a lot of that social interaction also I was putting all the lowest sets at school and told that if you do well you can progress and then never ever let me progress no matter how hard I tried um so I really felt that the system was really up against me and I was kind of swimming against the tide but I'm so grateful for that that Journey because that's what built me to the person that I am today but there were a lot of things that I suppressed because I I couldn't go home and say hey to my I didn't feel I could go home and talk to my parents that you know these kids kept calling me them where today I got bullied I got beaten up at school today or I you know I wasn't able to defend myself I didn't want my dad to think I was not strong and so I'll you know if I had tears I would hold them back if I had emotions it would be in a quiet place and um it wasn't really till I started racing that I was able to channel this emotion that I had into my driving and it's like when I put this helmet on Superman was my favorite I loved how he fought for the people and I loved how he did the right things and he was a really inspiring character for me but again no superhero was of color so you know but you can still aspire to be someone that's if they don't look like you you know um and so I remember going to karate I remember putting this helmet on in racing and it felt like it was my cloak you know my superpowers had come out when I was driving and I was battling with these kids and I was doing able to do things that they seemed to not be able to do as well and that was my love wow yeah I mean it's my mind was opposite I was bullied a lot at school as well I was one of five people of color in my primary school and I was also overweight and so I was bullied for that and obviously you know my parents are from Indian backgrounds and so they'd gone through it much worse than I did when when they'd moved to England but the difference was that I would go cry to my mum and then my mum would come try and save the day in school and that was the worst that was so embarrassing like your mum's they're telling the teacher what happened and then I'm like oh no Mom don't do this and then it's even more embarrassing because the kids pick on you going oh mum came to say oh yeah yeah Mommy's right yeah so that that was my version of it I wasn't scared of crying to my mum but then it had it had different things but yeah that that's so hard as a kid when you're going through that and you're trying to find yourself you're trying to figure out what confidence is you don't even know what that means you feel like not going to school but then even though you're saying you found it in racing I mean racing was similar because you were working class you're still to this day the only working-class black driver to do as successfully as you have so not only do you have it at school you also have it in your passion like in the thing that is your cloak is your Superman so how does it feel when you're also dealing with it in that area where you've discovered what your passion or your interest is at that age what does it feel like when you're getting in that space it's inescapable you know you use that as an escape but then you're confronted with it also and so I was just grateful that I had this amazing figure in my dad you know I got a you know my best one of my best friends like his dad was never there I know there's not many people that have separated parents and and being shared between parents is not an easy thing um you know some days with your mom and some days we did that my my mum was the soft loving parent so that's where I really I feel like I learned a lot of compassion and empathy that's where I feel like I get it from her and my dad was at that strong like kind of stronger Rock and also just someone that looked like me on and just he would say do you talking on the track don't be distracted by it don't listen to what they're saying do your driving on track and show let's just be quiet and walk away as well as you know um so but you know again like your parents my parents went through well particularly my dad was someone that also face adversity through his life and he's like I want to do everything in my power to create a better life for my kid so that I don't feel or experience the things that I have encountered and through my through my journey and so but I think for me it was also difficult having biracial you know I'm biracial so having a white mother mother for example and a black dad I knew my dad would understand the racial slurs that I surrounded me my mum couldn't understand it so I couldn't really speak to my mum about it she was loving but she's never been educated within it she didn't know anything about black history and slavery and so it was a very difficult but but I had love there which was the most important thing yeah um but in the racing it was like you know like kids you just want to enjoy yourself you want to be included and you know when you're kind of outcast a little bit it's um it's difficult for kids you know and so that's why today like I'm like if I'm posting something I hope that when I do click that button I hope that it is a positive wave for some of the kids out there that are being distracted by all the stuff that's going on around the world yeah I mean I was I was telling you earlier I was so grateful came out to watch you in Austin a couple of weeks ago and got to meet your dad and I heard you talk about your dad in that way before and so when I met him I was it was I was just you know it's nice to share that with him and I was just saying how beautiful it is to see your relationship and and how it's evolved it's always been that way yeah yeah that's what I thought yeah yeah to walk us through whatever you feel my dad has been like the leader in getting me you know he had four jobs at one stage just to keep us go-karting because when we all started gokind most of the people were majority of the people were from working class families um so but then there are of course a few wealthier kids that have slightly better access to equipment and um mechanics and all those sorts of things and my dad was my mechanic so it was just me and him on the road and and my stepmom Linda um she would be there supporting um making sure that we're fully clothed making sure that we we've eaten and we're hydrated all those sorts of things for the weekend prepare my kid um so it was very much a family outing it was a family kind of um family weekend we did it as a family um we've traveled together my little brother would be on the road with us as well who's a major inspiration you've definitely got to speak to me one day um born with Cerebral Palsy um when I was seven and is a speaker today so he's and racing he's done he's defined all the odds and wow uh even though he's seven years younger than me still very much an inspiration but the thing with my dad was he was maybe he was my manager all the way till I was like 20 I got to we got to phone one and he was he worked so hard his work ethic for me was that that's was inspiring for me seeing how hard he worked the time he gets up in the morning the little sleep that he would have end of his day in the garage working on the go-kart preparing for the weekend packing up the track and getting us to where we are mechanicing learning to be a better mechanic and and still weighing all these different things it was quite phenomenal to see um but I think it was difficult for him to then show me love and sometimes you just want to hug from your dad you know or when you're facing these things you want to be able to be embraced but um when I think I got to when I was 22 23 it got really intense when I got to form one because all of a sudden you're thrown into you go through karting and cars you don't go to school to to learn to speak to the media you're literally thrown into the pit and at the time I didn't have management other than my dad my stepmom were booked flights and trips but um I didn't have PR I didn't have anybody to help protect me or prepare me for things driving I was good I would say but in these things is where a lot of mistakes happened um you've got the the kind of all the media attention and you have to so you're just learning on the go which was very difficult for a youngster I think yeah absolutely and and also I just you wanted to try and live some sort of normal normal life but nothing's normal for you at the time and the thing for me and my dad were just we're really bumping his at one stage it's like I really just want you to be my dad so we can let's go and have fun let's go and have a laugh but we hadn't had that for a long time and so um eventually I decided to sit part ways for my dad and I was like I'm gonna start making some of the decisions for myself and the mistakes that I'm gonna need to make and there was definitely a period of time where we spoke less um but we both have worked so hard to come back together and we have one of the greatest you know he's the first person I want to call when I finish a race um because I know he knows what it's like he was there from day one and so you know he's been to the last two races with me he's probably gonna come to the next one there's days where I do feel like I'm not enough there's days where I don't feel like I'm good enough and people be like yeah but you've won seven World titles anyway yeah but still there's days where I question no you still got it you still are you can you still be the best yes you can and so I have to just always I'm having that conversation with myself often but my dad's also there sometimes I'll say something that's maybe not the most positive and he'll be the one there just reaffirming no you've got this believe in yourself and it's so important for people to have people like that around them and I support myself I surround myself with other positive people as well and we continue I think it's all our job to lift every as many you know everyone up right I want everyone around me to win and yeah um and to become the best versions of themselves so no thank you for sharing that as well thank you for opening up about that because yeah I think the relationships we have with our parents are just so significant when it comes to achievement and success and when you start doing sport at your level even at an early age wins and losses starts becoming so important so win and loss is important in everyone's life in the sense that everyone has it in exams in school and things like that which we'll talk about in a second as well but for you you're having a in a very over way like you have one two three and then you have everyone else and and how have you kind of worked with that since you're young because I can imagine that your psychology can become very much like if you win things are great if you lose things are bad how have you kind of processed that as time's gone on and was there a time when it was unhealthy and difficult and has it got better or is it something you're always working on so on one side of things you know I struggled at school as I said so the teachers would write these reports that I was not focused or I wasn't doing well and and I remember the fear of that report every year and I try so hard to do well and then these teachers I don't know if teachers out there realize when they write those reports what's happening back at home whether you have an abusive uh household or you know the the stress of that was was difficult I feel embracing if I if I would win I could see a smile on my dad's face and it was really like okay if I do well at this I know that I'll be accepted you know um but I go to work double hard to be I've got to always be first I always laugh about the whole if you're not first you last because I'm literally whilst that's obviously I've not been fresh my whole life first was everything yeah um in order to be accepted in order to fit in and maybe to be appreciated um not only in within my relationship perhaps with my dad but then also around my friends and it was until I got older I realized it's about the bigger picture but when you have success it's so short-lived it's like it really is really short-lived you win a race then you go back home and you have big as a racing driver you know the weekend's so intense you've seen it there's so much energy so much it's really really in a stressful environment for everyone that's working within it then you go home and there's a huge come down like one or two days later and you're trying to balance those emotions that emotional rollercoaster um and learning to kind of channel that and figure out ways to keep it balanced whether with your routine and those sorts of things has been really key for me but I think during the last couple of last few years really understanding that it's about the bigger picture um I'm fighting for something far greater than winning a race I'm really fighting for changing the world you know we're more divided than ever I would say it's devastating I can't watch the news it's devastating every there's so much happening but there are so many great people out there that are doing really great things and I want to be one of I want to be a part of that [Music] inspirational energy bubble that people like yourselves are a part of um because we want to we need to create a brighter future we need to create better Future Leaders look how many look how bad our leaders are that are in governments you know like we need to be as part of the next generation of thought leaders um that are positive and um yeah so that's what I'm trying to be a part of every day I'm so I'm really trying to focus on my intentions as you're talking about like setting your intentions each day um I'm trying to learn new tools that I didn't have when I was a kid I didn't I didn't know about yoga I didn't know about meditation um I didn't have podcasts to listen to good people to listen to and aspire to kind of help me put on the right path so yeah um yeah we've got a lot of work to do there's almost not enough time here on this planet right we're here for such a short time really in the Scale of the Universe yeah but I think you're one of those people that you know and that's when we first connected that was one of the biggest reasons for me that I saw you using your platform for a bigger purpose I was like oh that's fascinating like that's so interesting to me because that's a choice too I think today we kind of assume that if someone has a platform or if someone's you know number one in their field or if someone's got followers that they should talk about stuff we kind of assume that anyone who has followers should talk about stuff first of all I don't think that's the case I think a lot of people choose not to uh but but you were someone that stood out to me massively where I was just like wow this person's really not just winning on on the track but it's thinking about how winning on the track transfers to what you can do off the track because of the influence because of your network because of your impact and I find that to be really The Missing Link for so many people because I always say that your purpose is something not just that makes you happy it's when you use what makes you happy to serve other people like when you use it to impact other people's lives when did that drop for you like when did that click for you like were you ever I guess what I'm trying to say is there's a transition when you're saying that well you know winning like maybe get the nod from my dad and obviously I was bullied and then I'm winning but then I'm number one at something like was there a point at which number one didn't satisfy you or was there a point at which the success that came from it or or you didn't actually have to get dissatisfied you just found that there was a better way to be successful does that make sense the parv that was striking when you're just saying that for me it was like I feel like we often live in fear of what people think um how you're going to be judged how you're going to be received if you you're free outspoken you're going to lose your job you're going to be fired I've always been a outspoken person I think that's just been a quality I've never been a follower um I don't like to conform to how people expect what people of what people expect from you as I said I was having a success and I was like okay now I'm on I'm at the top what can I do with it yeah and there are so many causes there's so many problems out there and there's so many so many amazing causes and which one you know there's only one of you so like what where do you put the focus and that's take it took a long long time to really find what that was for me I think for me education was something that I felt extremely passionate about because I I've been out to India I'd been out into some of the really poorest places like Manila and seeing young kids who are like us but begging for food and not having the same opportunities and for me that was that broke my heart and realized how privileged we are and how fortunate we are it was like I want to be working with people out there that are trying to create more you know there's over 100 million kids that don't have access to school or education so how can I get involved in that so align yourself with people that do but I think I was I was winning and it was giving me that tip of happiness but then I would kind of drop back down to normality and there was something missing and it was that purpose really or understanding what that purpose was and understanding what why you've been put here why are you beginning the platform that you've that you've been given why were the only you know only people of color this whole time through it all and when I started speaking about um diversity people like oh you want to get more people of coloring as as racing drivers only 20 of us so as I know it's this forty thousand forty fifty thousand jobs there's thousands of engineering jobs in the background and there's such a lack of diversity coming through I want to be a part of Shifting that narrative and shifting that conversation and having people be question themselves and have those difficult conversations with with people so I first I just started by having those difficult conversations with my boss and one of the things he brings up that he said that hit him hard I said have you ever thought of as a white person walking into the paddock into the race weekend Paddock and being the only white person there he's like he's like I hadn't even thought of that I said well that's what it's like for someone like me when I'm in the room you noticed you noticed that out of 50 people in a meeting you're the only person the black person there and it's not because we are less is because there are these barriers within Society through education that are limiting people to be the best they can be so my job is to be empowering and improving representation I'm really really passionate like black Equity as well so that's why I got involved with the Denver Broncos Denver Broncos yeah yeah and usually when I'm in conversation with sponsors or companies I'm like hey so what it how diverse is your team what are you doing about diversity inclusion how are you creating a better work workspace for people that's what I want to be a part of I the success can come later and that's that would be along the way but if you're not asking those questions or you're not tackling those issues then we're not blind yeah and so all them pretty much every partner that we have we have a lot of Partners within our team I've asked these really difficult questions and they're like oh you know what but we can do more I'm like well let's do it you know yeah so I think I've grown very close with my like Mercedes-Benz and Gamma they've been so open that we changed the car from Silver to Black in 2020. and as again I said to them like the car's been silver forever it's always been silver arrows and I was like imagine if we change the card to Black well that could you know us turning up and arriving is how you show up and it's how you know imagine the message we can send and we had the black car for the whole year and we didn't even really talk much about it we just let it be and we went with it and that's when I won myself with that car so that's beautiful now that must have felt special it was honestly my whole life flashed by my not that last lap in Turkey my whole life like all the struggles the questioning whether you were going to make it or not just all those doubts all those fears kind of flash by Me by you know through my eyes and came across the line and I was like I did it and I wanted the kids out there to know that you can do it too you know um so that's what I try and like every day just try to be encouraging of kitchen yeah yeah do you sometimes feel that we were talking about this a bit earlier that you know in other sports we get to see the emotions and the expressions of players that we love or you know anyone who's on the court or the field of the pitch whereas with you because we don't get to see that in your eyes in your last lap like that we can only hear it today which is why I'm so grateful to have this moment because I obviously whenever whenever I'm sit down with someone who's a high performer like you it's obvious that there's so much emotion and preparation and power but with racing specifically you just don't get to see that do you sometimes feel that the only people that can truly relate to you are the people you compete with because I feel like it's like you said there's only 20 of you that are racing anyway it's lonely anyway 99 of people in the world have no idea what it feels like to drive a car as fast as you do and the way you do in in any comparison do you sometimes feel that the only people you can relate to are the people that are racing against you and then do you kind of feel is there a loneliness in that experience or is that kind of like a power in that as well definitely the other drivers I do feel that there's more we have a lot more in common than we think but we're so competitive and a lot of us have our defense like you want to beat the guy but then you like the guy you might like the person outside the car but you can't show that like there's this whole psychological battle you're having with yourself and getting away of yourself a lot of the time so I really feel like as an older driver I'm trying to be more like reaching out to youngsters and um because they're the future you know um and I'm excited to see some of these young drivers are coming through are so so talented I don't know if they've got the best structure around them like I mean like I didn't necessarily have the ultimate structure that I perhaps have now so just try to be a kind of a positive light to them but naturally none of them are black and none of them have necessarily faced the same as me but they've faced their own challenges and and things about respecting that with within everybody and I've tried to be create allies necessarily like in having the difficult conversations with some of them I mean I'm so grateful for I've had a couple of them it really took the knee with me in 2020 um just on that you know my dad was going back to the house with my dad my dad like never let me cry as a kid he said there's a sign of weakness like don't let me ever see you shed a tear so I remember just holding back through those difficult times as a kid holding back most of that stuff in 2020 I cried I hadn't cried for at least I think at least 10 years maybe more it was there was a lot of bottled up stuff that came up that I had not realized that didn't even know about suppressing a pain or a feeling so I remember kind of bending on my knees thinking no what has happened in the world I've got to I've got to be outspoken I've got to take that chance because if I don't do it then no one's gonna do it if I don't if I don't take the knee if I don't let people like me know that I care and I hear you and I'm I'm with you and I'm going to do something about it I'm going to risk it all I don't care if my partners want to drop me because I want to be associated with this narrative I don't I'm like and I literally let go of all the fear and that's why I went came so forward with it and I know it's not easy for everyone to do that um but I just want to really and try to encourage people out there too to be themselves to speak out if they've got a problem if they're seeing something within the work working environment or experiencing something you gotta be outspoken about it and there's a right way to do it the first day I was going to take the knee I remember I didn't feel like I could tell my team I was like because I know I felt that they wouldn't understand how important it is for me to do this this day so I remember I had my black lives matter a shirt hidden and I just wore it out there and I I went ahead within so no one knew no one knew but every uh the sport had built and made all these t-shirts like um we race as one yeah slogan and they gave these t-shirts to all the to everybody I was like I'm not wearing that that's not what this is about and so this is what I'm doing and this was around George Floyd right yeah and afterwards my team were like well why don't you if you just told us we could have prepared a bit over I had this fear that they would try and stop me perhaps but that was just a fear um they've been massively supportive through the whole thing My Hope was that you know kids would be watching me like what it what it what is that why is he taking me what what does that shirt mean what is going on Dad Mom and then the parents being in an awkward position having to explain it maybe but I think what was really encouraging for me I think when we started really getting into the whole diversity inclusion we did the research there was only three percent out of two thousand people in the team as three percent diversity so since then we've been on this Mission the team have started new projects we've discovered that the the sport generally hires from one group of universities which is not diverse and if there are any young black students that go there they're twice as unlikely to be hired when they come out compared to their counterparts and also paid less exercises all these things that perhaps people didn't know that's the Hamilton commission right yeah yeah and that just was interesting to to experience that and now now we're working on like a diversity Charter that all the teams have to be a part of and it's not mine it's for the sport and it's to encourage those teams because there's still not any diversity within you know if you look at Ferrari they don't have hardly any there's most teams don't um but when I go back to my team to the factory normally in our marketing department wasn't very diverse initially and I walked in after the pandemic and I started seeing such a more diverse group of people I was really quite emotional because I was like oh my God there's I'm starting to see change but you don't see that on TV yeah so when I talk to the to the bosses of the sport I'm like hey you know there's all white men facing oh and and me facing the camera at the start of the race where are the women where are the people of color we've got to be showing some young kids are watching and they're like oh there's a place for me there I can be there I can be an engineer I can be a mechanic or whatever it may be and even for young girls oh I can be a racing driver or an engineer a strategist or whatever you know so representation's so so key to inspiring the young youth especially in these industries that they already have less access to right like that's the point that it's not just it's not just representation because you want them to even have the opportunity it's the fact that there's just no access point which is what you're trying to create I think what's what I find really beautiful about you doing it is you're doing it though when you're like I'm having all my emotions come up at the same time as trying to be a voice for other people and when you're saying like I'm I'm taking a knee because I know I have to make a stand externally but internally you're taking a knee because so much of your own stuff from years ago is coming back up like that must be quite hard when you're that's that strikes me as something that's really inspiring about what you did is that you were going through your own healing at the same time as trying to do healing for the world there is so much healing to do right and I was completely oblivious to that I needed healing I needed to really peel back some of those layers um I think for people that turn into tune into a race and you mentioned earlier on but when you we arrive everything's set up We There is work that we're doing in the background naturally people don't see they just see a show but there is an unbelievable amount of work that goes on in the background um when I talk to people that talk about how much weight you lose they're like yeah you just sit in the car and you drive um there's this huge psychological and emotional roller coaster that you're going through that it would be really hard for people to comprehend and you would mention about all these other athletes you see their faces in other sports you can't see because we've got helmet on but you go through this roller coaster ride in the race and then you get out and they the camera's right in your face you're not prepared for that your emotions are shot particularly if you failed or feel like you failed and you don't always answer the right way if you wear your your heart on your sleeve people that don't necessarily like that necessary always people take advantage of that so then you build up all these protection mechanisms and mechanisms that's not necessarily you and at the core but won't be the safest thing for you you know what I mean like I read something the other day about it's like three steps of you and there's one the one of which you present your uh who you present there's you and your who you are to you and your family and friends and then there's one the part of you the real you that no one ever gets to see and I think just today in today's world it's so vicious on social media it's the media can be you know can really tell you apart and you build up you know like you you make a mistake in something you say in the media and your ridicule Feud you never do it again so you build up and you go more and more in your shell and you become harder for people to really relate to but I think for me what I've realized in these last few years is really peeling back those layers and you know letting people know that I grew up in a council state I you know I've lived on the sofa with my uh my my parents we've had those struggles um the successful people out there you see they too have had those things where we need to show that young kids who are going through that same thing that oh I can if he can get there or they can get there then it must be possible for me too yeah um and like being showing you about vulnerability that's something that I really struggled to to to do for a long long time and um like today that's something I think I'm a lot more open than I've ever ever been yeah I'm not living in fear every day and that's like the most that's the most important thing I think for me personally I'm living a much happier life because I'm I'm a lot more open yeah it's liberating yeah absolutely yeah it's liberating when you finally feel like you're not trapped or you're hiding held or yeah or hiding yeah or hiding my favorite quotes is from my Angelo when she says we are all powerful beyond measure and that really hit home also for me that that's my favorite quote because and I have a tattooed because really we are so we do limit ourselves we get in our own way right along with the other things that get in our way but a lot of our fear stops us from driving forwards from progressing and that's why like I do the craziest things I jump out of planes yeah you've done what 80 jumps yeah like just just I love challenging myself and doing things even though there's maybe fear there but overcoming that fear is like it's the best feeling when you overcome it and you realize that she was all just a bunch of nonsense in your head I want to encourage so all my friends I'm like let's go and do this today they're like are you crazy my dad don't even think as a kid my dad was like is he really my son because I wouldn't do any of these things and even still today um I still find that he's actually done skydiving with my Dad yeah he said he would never do it but he did it so but driving 200 miles per hour is probably one of the scariest things that you do all the time like that's not for you anymore whatever things I've never had that fear yeah uh as a kid and I was just never you know I think if you go on a ski slope and you see these kids coming by the kids are generally Fearless right yeah but think as you go get older yes you start you hurt yourself a little bit you start protecting yourself more and more but I just don't have that I think I feel like that was something that just wasn't necessarily put in me I'm terrified of spiders yeah that's the only thing but I'm doing 200 miles an hour that's actually when I'm most at peace I would say yeah it's like I'm like flowing it's like my that's my element and that's why I like I love doing what I do it could be really really hard when I start racing I've been doing for 30 years I'm 37 I've been racing 30 years and when you stop like what what's gonna match that nothing's gonna have a probably a match being in the stadium or being at the race and being at the Pinnacle the sport being at the front of the greater or coming through the grid that motion that I get there when I do stop that will be a there'll be a big hole Yeah so I'm trying to generally focus on things find things that are going to replace that that will also be just as rewarding and that's like Mission 44 for me meeting kids at schools having these conversations with families and parents who clearly you're going through difficult times and want to create the best opportunity for their kids encouraging them they're like okay I've been there too look where I got so you can get there it's just got to work through it that's for me the that's way more rewarding than winning the race yeah so much more yeah that's I'm so grateful and I'm so happy that everyone's gonna getting to hear this I felt you're the only and I know you know you're talking about when that happens but it's brilliant that you're planning already because you can see how so many athletes mentally when they know their career has somewhat of a shelf life or a somewhat of a time span like it's so hot it's it just completely wrote but I remember you're reminding me of when I had the fortune of sitting down with Kobe Bryant and I said sat down with him when he'd already retired wow and I interviewed him oh so great I'm so jealous he was one of those people that was not upset being retired he loved it because he knew that his mission for him was to make these short movies and make all these uh Sports based content to inspire kids to tell their stories and to help them find better stories and so it's exactly what you're saying where he wasn't he's one of those people that I've met he was not sad about he was so happy he was so pumped that's what I'm working towards yeah because he he knew that he had a mission and he had a purpose and he'd gone and won an Oscar for a short movie that he'd made and you know he was creating content to inspire kids and that's where his heart was and of course watching his daughters play and so I'm super inspired by him yeah I know but yeah like when you said that that's what I remembered and and he was in the same boat he was like I always wanted to script right and never had time to script right he said I was always playing basketball and he goes but then I started script writing and I got a coach and then I was writing and getting better as a writer that's what I think when I've spoken to other athletes we focused so much on that being the best you can be and that one thing that the other things that you also love like if it's playing an instrument or if it's writing scripts like it all falls everything falls away and yeah um how can you come compartmentalize staying in the in the zone in the focus Lane but also building up some of those other skills and discovering other passions you know people's we've heard people tell LeBron shut up and dribble like yeah that's there there's a lot of people put you in the box and say this you can only do one thing but as I've seen and spoken to some people that are active and retired a lot of them say when particularly when they retire that they everything kind of fell apart like everything fell to the ground they had nothing to back it up with and they hadn't discovered what they're doing next so then they go through this emotional Journey um of of Discovery but it takes time so I'm like trying to learn from those things and applying them and find the other things that I'm passionate about so I generally feel today that I have lots of things in the pipeline that when I do stop it's gonna be like so grateful but I have something better that I'm moving on to yeah um but I I have no doubts that I oh me and my dad will always have to go to the go-kart track or something you know I'm always going to be competitive yeah I can't that's literally a strain in My DNA that's just never gonna gonna shift I'm competitive at everything I'm happy to hear that it's it's it's I'm sure that's refreshing it's great for people to also hear that even to inspire young people or Inspire anyone who's gone to a place in their career where they know that there's a certain moment where things are going to wind down but then they're going to transition I think I don't think we celebrate the transitions enough in life and life is made up of transition absolutely and people think that it's maybe less or something but it's yeah it's it's not about that yeah exactly so it's fascinating you found that what are some of these like you said like um you know I've been doing jumps I've been doing this with my friends what are some of the routines that you put into place to help you manage your mindset because I feel like you're you said that being at 200 miles per hour for the duration of a race is like being in flow for you that means you're extremely comfortable with your own thoughts extremely comfortable with being in a high stress high pressure environment but being just with your own self talk to us about how you I mean it sounds like that's always been the case but what have you done to become more and more comfortable with that yeah I think naturally this is the natural ability right but um I've been out of focus for an hour and 45 minutes without making mistakes and that's that's literally insane it's unbelievable dealing with the pressures um a friend actually asked me last night because I talk about we lose a lot of race a lot of weight in the race yes like sometimes you can lose up to 10 pounds like four kilos and people like whoa I need to be particularly in America they're like oh I need to be a racing driver um for the weight loss but this question is my friend asked me the other day that's like where does the where does the weight go like yeah because my suit doesn't because afterwards I weigh less but the I'm like so it must evaporate you somewhere so I've never got to figure out where all that weight actually truly goes because it obviously isn't in sweat but that's like messed my mind about um but the suit definitely is obviously a little bit heavier but um it's about gaining tools and I think as when I was younger I didn't have I knew how to arrive at the race I channeled the so this emotion that I had through whatever those difficulties were into my driving so it's laser focused like if you watch a video for me when I was five years old on Blue Pizza you'll see I'm just laser focused but um being able to control emotions being out to be calm and present staying centered there are loads of obviously different methods that people can use so things that I try to that I've started to incorporate over the years more in my life is things like stretching things like yoga and meditation has been a real that for me was something that I never thought that that I kind of turned a blind eye to it when I was younger I thought that's not gonna be helpful but being able to be sit still for a second and listen to the noises around you um and understand you want to tap into that kind of in a child or whatever it may be that's for me been taking that moment for yourself each day treating yourself with love and being kind to yourself you know because I think for a long time I wasn't kind to myself and that's been a process uh doing things that being purposeful and and having real certain intentions each day no matter how big or small and you know I wake up I'm looking in the mirror brushing your teeth then stop for a second sake this today's gonna be the day today's gonna be great um and no matter what you're faced with you know just whatever you come out with yeah yeah talking to yourself also speaking to people I think is very important I think as a kid as I said I didn't feel like I could speak to people I didn't feel like I could tell my mom about these experiences I felt embarrassed I couldn't tell my dad so I thought he would fulfill think less of me I couldn't talk to any of the teachers couldn't tell my most my friends most of them uh weren't particularly of color so but finding learning to be open and speak to people or find someone to speak to whether it's a therapist or whatever that's that's been a huge um help um I don't not necessarily have a therapist especially someone that I'm able to then just have shoot a with basically yeah um and confide in and Trust like trust has been something that I've never had done didn't trust anybody through those experiments I had as a kid and it's been very very hard to build trust with people but creating allies finding things that are that you have in common with people like my boss for example him and I just breaking each other down and then just having realizing that was similar in many many ways but also very different but that's not what should divide us we can then be allies and so that's why we're working on being the most diverse team we're working on pushing we have we've studied ignite which is about getting you know improving that pipeline of into motorsport for people um from underserved communities and there's so much work to do you're doing it though man I'm trying to I'm trying to and you know to the point you were asking earlier like has has enough been done absolutely not in the industry yes and like you don't feel that yeah and it's not only in either industry it's everywhere and is that your goal to sort in the industry and then expand out or you're starting you're starting across the board anyway yeah yeah that well with the team with where it's we started an organization which called ignite which we both fund and that is focused on the sport Motorsport in general but Mission 44 is focused on a much you know societal challenges and barriers and and education and um that's a focused in the UK at the moment but I want to bring that over to the states absolutely man um you know hopefully by at least 2024 um also just been to Africa and there is so much Beauty there and I really really want to have an imp you know really want to help there as well so yeah um we will continue to expand but we're one of the one of the few black founding non-profit organizations in UK and with um black CEO for example a very diverse group of people um and just having those conversations with people of just what a diverse Workforce means and how that bet can benefit you when you have people from different backgrounds all coming up with a diverse diverse thought and creation it's that's how you have more success yeah it's a no it's a no-brainer when you hear it and you're just like wow that makes so much sense and creativity is better and you you'd be able to come up with far more innovative ideas and you've got so many more cultures now being celebrated involved and I I feel like it's it's interesting to me that the world hasn't caught on with that yet like it's it's interesting that even despite there being progress there's not enough progress but what what is the block like what is the stop is it a mindset is it just habits and laziness like what is the actual like if you got to the core of it from everyone you've been speaking to like what are you what is the issue is the issue that yeah is the issue just laziness and just oh this is the way things have always been or is it or is there actually like a setup I don't have the answer to it I I ask that question all the time and I come up with lots of different theories in my mind um sometimes I'm like maybe people don't just don't care maybe people's problems are so big that they don't have time to focus on other things and it's hard enough just to do the thing that you're focused on or just overcoming the issue that you're overcoming so how am I gonna have more time to yeah to speak about these things why should I take the risk and risk my next step and so I feel like it's about learning to be selfless right and um which is difficult to do if you're not being loving yourself and not in a good place yeah so I think it all comes to us at hopefully a time at a certain point in our lives um but also you know we live in a time where like social media is so it's such a dangerous it's such a powerful tool but it's also can be so dangerous and so dividing and I see people out there today and there's people that I admire that I'm that that I would follow and I'd be like how they projecting something that's not necessarily healthy for you for people out there how are they projecting they're not using this platform to be more inspirational or be more positive and there's others that are but then I don't you can't judge because that's their Journey well you can continue to do is try to you know with that Maya Angelou quote it's about being shining your light as bright as you can possibly get it and hope that by doing it you I think you automatically uh encourage the people around you to want to do the same and I never truly understood that until I see the team that I work with how we all Inspire each other how with this year for example we've had the you know 2022 has been one of the hardest years for us as a team um as we didn't build a great car and we had our struggles as many people do and how we've had to all come closer and the relationship I've had with people that I've worked with this team for 10 years and there's conversations we've had this year people have opened up like they've never opened up before people have cried like it's been it's been beautiful to see yeah I feel like with some a far better team than we've ever been before because we're living with intention we're actually talking about impact that everyone in the team's gone and had diversity inclusion training no one's been kind of like I'm not I'm not going through that class why do I have to go and learn with diversity and inclusions about it I'm and why it doesn't impact me you know people like I understand it doesn't I wouldn't necessarily notice it but I want to understand it more so I can be better in my working environment it's been unbelievable that's amazing also leaders within our sport are now now where we are on a road to being a more diverse and more inclusive sport but I think my job is to continuously make sure that it that that same the effort that we're putting in now doesn't kind of fall away and become kind of you know just because it was um trending yeah yeah yeah that is actually something that's on the top of the list sustainability is on the top of our list and that real true core values we don't go out of our way well you know because a lot of people it's very easy to kind of be led by the money success but making sure you stick to your core values it's so true so important it goes back to what you said though that that's what real leaders do like leaders don't follow what's trending like leaders have focused on transformation and then they're dedicated to transformation and they're going to keep doing it until they see a change whereas followers follow Trends and oh it's not trending now it doesn't matter we'll focus on something else but you know obviously it's so clear just listening to you today and it's amazing Because unless I'm so glad I've had this opportunity to talk to you because I can hear just how deeply dedicated you are to this and how it's at your core it's like it's everything that comes out of your pores today is just you know which is which is really special to see a value being embodied like to empower other people you have to embody the value first it doesn't just you don't just go around empowering people and so to hear how your soul and heart is like completely a sponge for this stuff and then to wanting to go and share it with the world it's really remarkable man ah thank you yeah well I mean it's I've I'm by far perfect no yeah I know and I think that's like it's not about being perfect it's about just every day one step at a time trying to be better trying to do more yeah and um learning a lot about myself I've had to break myself down in order to be able to be better and what do you mean by breaking yourself down uh well just when you when I told you about like all those barriers you put up over time to protect yourself and then kind of like knocking those barriers down yes and it's enabled me to connect with more people it's enabled me to realize my place in the world and I don't feel like I don't belong anymore I feel like uh you know I've got a place and I've got a purpose and that's and I think a lot of people are struggling to find that purpose but it's okay you'll you will find it do not give up keep getting up you know like just keep saying those things to yourself and you will eventually find it and you know you're already living in your purpose and having such a huge impact on so many people you know telling stories which uh is it's amazing to see um I started this production company inspired by like Kobe and so many out there but stories for me storytelling I watch a lot of movies I don't know about you but yeah I love movies especially Sports movies yeah like when I go home I'll like I you know order takeaway or make myself some pasta or something like that and then I put the plate in front of me and I can't eat till I found something to watch like my my Escape is watching a movie and I always like to find something hopefully inspiring yes but what the reason I created this um production company is because you know until recently we didn't have any people of color are superheroes We I think these stories storytelling is so so important for people out there for inspiring people and and I want to make sure that in and everything that I do every project that I work on is with a diverse Workforce like I'm doing this from one movie with um Brad Pitt and Joe kazinski and um but my job is to make sure that it's diverse behind the camera as it is on screen the story is empowering and uplifting um it's not there's no BS in terms of the racing and hopefully one kid will watch it and yeah or more and feel empowered to go and do something great absolutely I love that man I'm so glad you're doing that because when you said do I like movies the movie that came to my mind was uh race have you seen race because yeah so like that the story is unbelievable but when you watch the movie as well it's unbelievable to see what Jesse Owens did like to think that he had to go I can't even imagine I can't you know you just can't imagine if everyone's not seen the movie you have to go see them yeah it's just one of those movies that's like how do you do that like how do you go and race in Nazi Germany like I have like I must have been terrified terrifying and you know there's been so many great stories like that that are out there that need telling yeah um continuously telling yeah 42 is another one yeah 42 is awesome um but yeah there is these really unique people out there I think for me being in this sport being the only one and being the first is that is that has been lonely yeah and that has been really really a difficult thing to kind of understand and and um through my life I know many many people like Jesse for example being the first and only at the time you know I've taken huge inspiration from him Nelson Mandela was like ah he's just one of my biggest biggest Inspirations um I was so so fortunate to get to meet him when I was I was like 23 or something oh wow what was that like yeah ah it was mind-blowing I mean when you when you then I got to form one and you have the success all these things come and you don't even you've dreamed of being a racing driver but you didn't dream that all the other things of all the other things that come along like meeting other unbelievable people I went to Nelson Mandela's 90th birthday in London and I was sat on his table in this huge room full of like Bill Clinton was there like uh Denzel Washington was there open Winfrey sat right next to me like all these people that you would never ever in the million years dream of think you would ever get to meet yeah and then you discover and they're also just human beings with feelings and with emotions and with their own challenges but I was so young at the time it was it was I don't even recognize myself when I look back at me seven years ago I see a shell of me and I think I look today and see myself and know myself so much more um and that's again that's an empowering experience to be in but yeah I went into the room and met him and he sat at his chair and it was like walking into I was like God or like a king you know and his silk shirt was his Aura was something you could see his Aura his smile he was beaming that was the most probably the most impactful day for me um as a youngster wow Lewis it's unbelievable talking to you I mean what you've achieved on the track off the track and now I'm even more excited to see you continue to achieve uh as your journey continues because I'm going to say this and I don't say this often and I genuinely my team can vouch for and everyone else can listen back to any episode I think you're one of the most on-purpose people I've ever interviewed and I appreciate that no and I genuinely like it just there's nothing else that comes from your being apart from what your purpose currently is with Mission 44 and and it's it's really remarkable to meet someone who's so on purpose I don't I genuinely don't have that experience and the only person you reminded me of was Kobe he had it too when I was around him there was no there's nothing else it wasn't like he missed anything he was at peace he was it was peace with purpose you know and you have that same Aura and spirit from from at least my experience thank you so much it's so kind of you yeah and I really mean that I really mean that it's incredible so uh we we end every episode with a Fast Five which means every question has to be answered in one word to one sentence maximum okay and we ask these same questions to every guest that's ever been on the show I should be prepared for that because I've seen you so well no the the first question is what's the best advice you've ever heard or received I think it was the achieve my dad uh never give up that's been like the slogan in the back of my mind every single day the other one would be um just that you'll always be learning and that's what I learned from Nelson Mandela he was like I'm 19 and I'm still learning today and like I was like what can you tell me it's like I'm still learning today and it's okay to be learning you're always going to be learning something new and growing yourself wow that's beautiful very like wow but like guys that was pretty basic but no but it's not it's it's powerful knowing he said that yeah as in the fact that he said that on his 90th birthday that is powerful because it's a long way to go yeah and it's like a lot of people I feel like a lot of people feel by 90 especially him he has so much wisdom to share yeah but the fact that his wisdom was I'm just learning that yeah I'm still learning that's pretty cool all right second question uh what's the worst advice you ever heard or received give up it's just the opposite yeah yeah literally the worst bit of advice and it wasn't I mean it wasn't necessarily advice but I when I was younger there was other parents of other racing drivers I was racing against I remember this one guy and he's like she just you just don't have it you should just give up their parents were saying their parents the grown man in these 40s or 50s told me that and I was eight told you told me yeah to my face and I remember just being so like what am I supposed to do with that what do you mean give up what was the reason I would imagine because I was beating his kid maybe I don't know I never really thought of what the reason would be and the same with teachers you know yeah what is this crap you know you're terrible at this you'll never know go to the next set you're never gonna amount to anything why are you even here I had a parent I had a teacher tell me that and wow it broke me down so much question number three uh how do you deal with loss and how do you deal with the win I think success is as I mentioned earlier short-lived success is there's a lot less learn in succ	this often and I genuinely my team can vouch for and everyone else can listen back to any episode I think you're one of the most on-purpose people I've ever interviewed and I appreciate that no and I genuinely like it just there's nothing else that comes from your being apart from what your purpose currently is with Mission 44 and and it's it's really remarkable to meet someone who's so on purpose I don't I genuinely don't have that experience and the only person you reminded me of was Kobe he had it too when I was around him there was no there's nothing else it wasn't like he missed anything he was at peace he was it was peace with purpose you know and you have that same Aura and spirit from from at least my experience thank you so much it's so kind of you yeah and I really mean that I really mean that it's incredible so uh we we end every episode with a Fast Five which means every question has to be answered in one word to one sentence maximum okay and we ask these same questions to every guest that's ever been on the show I should be prepared for that because I've seen you so well no the the first question is what's the best advice you've ever heard or received I think it was the achieve my dad uh never give up that's been like the slogan in the back of	8	6	8	this often and I genuinely my team can vouch for and everyone else can listen back to any episode I think you're one of the most on-purpose people I've ever interviewed and I appreciate that no and I genuinely like it just there's nothing else that comes from your being apart from what your purpose currently is with Mission 44 and and it's it's really remarkable to meet someone who's so on purpose I don't I genuinely don't have that experience and the only person you reminded me of was Kobe he had it too when I was around him there was no there's nothing else it wasn't like he missed anything he was at peace he was it was peace with purpose you know and you have that same Aura and spirit from from at least my experience thank you so much it's so kind of you yeah and I really mean that I really mean that it's incredible	yeah and I really mean that it's incredible so uh we we end every episode with a Fast Five which means every question has to be answered in one word to one sentence maximum okay and we ask these same questions to every guest that's ever been on the show I should be prepared for that because I've seen you so well no the the first question is what's the best advice you've ever heard or received	8,6,9	5,2,6	8	6	9	5	2	6
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyiWKXTd9aY	4,235	AyiWKXTd9aY	2023-01-23 00:00:00	I think the easiest thing in life is to give up on whatever you know whatever you're focused on or whatever you're hopeful for the hardest thing is to keep going but we have to like we have to continue to hold on and I would imagine for so many people out there that is probably the most difficult thing the best-selling author and host the number one Health and Wellness podcast on purpose with Jay Shetty hey everyone welcome back to on purpose the number one Health podcast in the world thanks to each and every one of you that come back every week to listen learn and grow now I know that our community is dedicated to living happier healthier and more healed lives and I love sitting down with people who are dedicated to their own happiness their own health their own healing and doing that for the world through their work and I have to be honest it's not every day that you get to sit down with someone you admire you're inspired by you look up to and someone who is truly the definition of the word goat uh I'm talking about the one and only sir Lewis Hamilton seven time Formula One World Champion someone with over a hundred race wins considered the most successful F1 driver of all time and Lewis's willingness to embrace what makes him different has defined his values and outlook on life and in 2014 those values saw him win BBC's Sports personality of the Year followed two years later by a position in Time magazine's 100 most influential people list Lewis received both accolades for a second time in 2020 in a year that saw him become a leading voice in the global fight for racial equality in doing so he was recognized as British gq's Game Changer of the year and Powerless most influential black person in the UK and further to this Lewis won the 2020 glorious Sportsman of the Year award and most notably was formally recognized with a Knighthood in 2020 New Year's honors for his outstanding achievements and contribution to Motorsports on the track and off the track Lewis is also passionate activists for so many underrepresented groups and communities his mission 44 is doing incredible work please welcome to on purpose Lewis Hamilton Lewis thank you for being here thank you so much for having me no this honestly is a special one for me it's been one of those ones that you know when I first launched the podcast there were a few names that I wanted to sit down with and you were one of those names so for me it's a very special moment and for this to be your first ever podcast which you just told me I didn't even know and you literally told me this like 10 minutes ago and in my head I'm thinking wow thank I I'm so grateful to have that honor honestly honest mine I'm really so grateful for everything you do and so I've been following and listening to you and you sent me the book a long time ago already so I really appreciate everything you're doing today oh well thank you man thank you and I'm excited to unpack your journey because as we said because it's your first podcast people have heard parts of you but but we don't really understand the depth and the texture of of Lewis Hamilton and so I guess I want to start in a in a different place and we'll we'll kind of go through on this journey I wanted to ask you what do you feel is the hardest thing you've had to do in order to be who you are today I think continuing to have the belief in myself and not letting that Veer off since I was young since I've been told from my teachers that I would never amount to nothing The Bullying or the things that you face at the adversity you face the discrimination and just continue to keep your head up continuing to to march on ahead uh towards your dream and never lose inside now I think that's definitely for sure the most difficult thing is keeping keeping your goal and your eyes set on that and not being distracted um not giving up I think the easiest thing in life is to give up on whatever you know whatever you're focused on or whatever you're hopeful for the hardest thing is to continue to keep going but we have to like we have to continue to hold on and I would imagine for so many people out there that is that it that is probably the most difficult thing yeah I think that's a great answer because I think people look at you and they assume that you never have to make that choice right they see someone in your position someone who's achieved what you've achieved and the Assumption can be oh yeah but he's the greatest he was he was just always that way and he doesn't have to make that choice every day but as you said since the beginning of your life whether it's childhood whether it's breaking into a sport that wasn't set up for you there have been so many moments let's let's go back to school let's talk about some of that more in depth because I feel like a lot of people struggle at school but you kind of went through a lot of altercations and adversities at that time what were some of the things you were hearing some of the bullying some of the racism the experiences that you had that felt limiting or made it feel like it was easier to give up I think for me I mean school was the most probably the most traumatizing and diff most difficult part of my life wow um I already was being bullied at the age of six um I think at the time that particular school I was probably one of three kids of color and just bigger stronger bullying kids were throwing me around a lot of the time I was always the last picked in the you know when you're standing playground in your uh in the line of when they're picking teams for football I was always the last one chosen or not even chosen even if I was better than somebody else um and then the the constant Jabs the things that are either thrown at you like bananas or people that would use the m word just so relaxed um people calling you half cast and you know just really not knowing where you fit in that for me was difficult when you then go into like history class and everything you learn in history there are no people of color in the history that they were teaching us so I was thinking oh well where are the people that look like me and I mean for me in my school there was only around I think there was around seven maybe six seven black kids out of 1200 kids and three of us were else put outside the headmaster's office all the time the Headmaster just had it out for for us and particularly for me I would say so like just juggling all these different emotions that you're feeling plus I struggled at school I didn't find out till I was 16 that I was dyslexic fortunately I came across a teacher that was actually caring and um took me down that road and helped me discover a little bit more about myself and how I can better myself through education but um I think that for me was that was tough also because I was racing every weekend I would leave on the Thursday night we would travel you know pack up the motorhome we'll travel around the country to race on the weekends and no one else knew when I'd got back to school every all the kids have done normal things on the weekend and I'll come back and say I'm I was racing and people would be like oh I've done that before you know like at this at the theme park or something but no one really knew what my goal was and could really they thought we would maybe it was a joke you missed a lot of that social interaction also I was putting all the lowest sets at school and told that if you do well you can progress and then never ever let me progress no matter how hard I tried um so I really felt that the system was really up against me and I was kind of swimming against the tide but I'm so grateful for that that Journey because that's what built me to the person that I am today but there were a lot of things that I suppressed because I I couldn't go home and say hey to my I didn't feel I could go home and talk to my parents that you know these kids kept calling me them where today I got bullied I got beaten up at school today or I you know I wasn't able to defend myself I didn't want my dad to think I was not strong and so I'll you know if I had tears I would hold them back if I had emotions it would be in a quiet place and um it wasn't really till I started racing that I was able to channel this emotion that I had into my driving and it's like when I put this helmet on Superman was my favorite I loved how he fought for the people and I loved how he did the right things and he was a really inspiring character for me but again no superhero was of color so you know but you can still aspire to be someone that's if they don't look like you you know um and so I remember going to karate I remember putting this helmet on in racing and it felt like it was my cloak you know my superpowers had come out when I was driving and I was battling with these kids and I was doing able to do things that they seemed to not be able to do as well and that was my love wow yeah I mean it's my mind was opposite I was bullied a lot at school as well I was one of five people of color in my primary school and I was also overweight and so I was bullied for that and obviously you know my parents are from Indian backgrounds and so they'd gone through it much worse than I did when when they'd moved to England but the difference was that I would go cry to my mum and then my mum would come try and save the day in school and that was the worst that was so embarrassing like your mum's they're telling the teacher what happened and then I'm like oh no Mom don't do this and then it's even more embarrassing because the kids pick on you going oh mum came to say oh yeah yeah Mommy's right yeah so that that was my version of it I wasn't scared of crying to my mum but then it had it had different things but yeah that that's so hard as a kid when you're going through that and you're trying to find yourself you're trying to figure out what confidence is you don't even know what that means you feel like not going to school but then even though you're saying you found it in racing I mean racing was similar because you were working class you're still to this day the only working-class black driver to do as successfully as you have so not only do you have it at school you also have it in your passion like in the thing that is your cloak is your Superman so how does it feel when you're also dealing with it in that area where you've discovered what your passion or your interest is at that age what does it feel like when you're getting in that space it's inescapable you know you use that as an escape but then you're confronted with it also and so I was just grateful that I had this amazing figure in my dad you know I got a you know my best one of my best friends like his dad was never there I know there's not many people that have separated parents and and being shared between parents is not an easy thing um you know some days with your mom and some days we did that my my mum was the soft loving parent so that's where I really I feel like I learned a lot of compassion and empathy that's where I feel like I get it from her and my dad was at that strong like kind of stronger Rock and also just someone that looked like me on and just he would say do you talking on the track don't be distracted by it don't listen to what they're saying do your driving on track and show let's just be quiet and walk away as well as you know um so but you know again like your parents my parents went through well particularly my dad was someone that also face adversity through his life and he's like I want to do everything in my power to create a better life for my kid so that I don't feel or experience the things that I have encountered and through my through my journey and so but I think for me it was also difficult having biracial you know I'm biracial so having a white mother mother for example and a black dad I knew my dad would understand the racial slurs that I surrounded me my mum couldn't understand it so I couldn't really speak to my mum about it she was loving but she's never been educated within it she didn't know anything about black history and slavery and so it was a very difficult but but I had love there which was the most important thing yeah um but in the racing it was like you know like kids you just want to enjoy yourself you want to be included and you know when you're kind of outcast a little bit it's um it's difficult for kids you know and so that's why today like I'm like if I'm posting something I hope that when I do click that button I hope that it is a positive wave for some of the kids out there that are being distracted by all the stuff that's going on around the world yeah I mean I was I was telling you earlier I was so grateful came out to watch you in Austin a couple of weeks ago and got to meet your dad and I heard you talk about your dad in that way before and so when I met him I was it was I was just you know it's nice to share that with him and I was just saying how beautiful it is to see your relationship and and how it's evolved it's always been that way yeah yeah that's what I thought yeah yeah to walk us through whatever you feel my dad has been like the leader in getting me you know he had four jobs at one stage just to keep us go-karting because when we all started gokind most of the people were majority of the people were from working class families um so but then there are of course a few wealthier kids that have slightly better access to equipment and um mechanics and all those sorts of things and my dad was my mechanic so it was just me and him on the road and and my stepmom Linda um she would be there supporting um making sure that we're fully clothed making sure that we we've eaten and we're hydrated all those sorts of things for the weekend prepare my kid um so it was very much a family outing it was a family kind of um family weekend we did it as a family um we've traveled together my little brother would be on the road with us as well who's a major inspiration you've definitely got to speak to me one day um born with Cerebral Palsy um when I was seven and is a speaker today so he's and racing he's done he's defined all the odds and wow uh even though he's seven years younger than me still very much an inspiration but the thing with my dad was he was maybe he was my manager all the way till I was like 20 I got to we got to phone one and he was he worked so hard his work ethic for me was that that's was inspiring for me seeing how hard he worked the time he gets up in the morning the little sleep that he would have end of his day in the garage working on the go-kart preparing for the weekend packing up the track and getting us to where we are mechanicing learning to be a better mechanic and and still weighing all these different things it was quite phenomenal to see um but I think it was difficult for him to then show me love and sometimes you just want to hug from your dad you know or when you're facing these things you want to be able to be embraced but um when I think I got to when I was 22 23 it got really intense when I got to form one because all of a sudden you're thrown into you go through karting and cars you don't go to school to to learn to speak to the media you're literally thrown into the pit and at the time I didn't have management other than my dad my stepmom were booked flights and trips but um I didn't have PR I didn't have anybody to help protect me or prepare me for things driving I was good I would say but in these things is where a lot of mistakes happened um you've got the the kind of all the media attention and you have to so you're just learning on the go which was very difficult for a youngster I think yeah absolutely and and also I just you wanted to try and live some sort of normal normal life but nothing's normal for you at the time and the thing for me and my dad were just we're really bumping his at one stage it's like I really just want you to be my dad so we can let's go and have fun let's go and have a laugh but we hadn't had that for a long time and so um eventually I decided to sit part ways for my dad and I was like I'm gonna start making some of the decisions for myself and the mistakes that I'm gonna need to make and there was definitely a period of time where we spoke less um but we both have worked so hard to come back together and we have one of the greatest you know he's the first person I want to call when I finish a race um because I know he knows what it's like he was there from day one and so you know he's been to the last two races with me he's probably gonna come to the next one there's days where I do feel like I'm not enough there's days where I don't feel like I'm good enough and people be like yeah but you've won seven World titles anyway yeah but still there's days where I question no you still got it you still are you can you still be the best yes you can and so I have to just always I'm having that conversation with myself often but my dad's also there sometimes I'll say something that's maybe not the most positive and he'll be the one there just reaffirming no you've got this believe in yourself and it's so important for people to have people like that around them and I support myself I surround myself with other positive people as well and we continue I think it's all our job to lift every as many you know everyone up right I want everyone around me to win and yeah um and to become the best versions of themselves so no thank you for sharing that as well thank you for opening up about that because yeah I think the relationships we have with our parents are just so significant when it comes to achievement and success and when you start doing sport at your level even at an early age wins and losses starts becoming so important so win and loss is important in everyone's life in the sense that everyone has it in exams in school and things like that which we'll talk about in a second as well but for you you're having a in a very over way like you have one two three and then you have everyone else and and how have you kind of worked with that since you're young because I can imagine that your psychology can become very much like if you win things are great if you lose things are bad how have you kind of processed that as time's gone on and was there a time when it was unhealthy and difficult and has it got better or is it something you're always working on so on one side of things you know I struggled at school as I said so the teachers would write these reports that I was not focused or I wasn't doing well and and I remember the fear of that report every year and I try so hard to do well and then these teachers I don't know if teachers out there realize when they write those reports what's happening back at home whether you have an abusive uh household or you know the the stress of that was was difficult I feel embracing if I if I would win I could see a smile on my dad's face and it was really like okay if I do well at this I know that I'll be accepted you know um but I go to work double hard to be I've got to always be first I always laugh about the whole if you're not first you last because I'm literally whilst that's obviously I've not been fresh my whole life first was everything yeah um in order to be accepted in order to fit in and maybe to be appreciated um not only in within my relationship perhaps with my dad but then also around my friends and it was until I got older I realized it's about the bigger picture but when you have success it's so short-lived it's like it really is really short-lived you win a race then you go back home and you have big as a racing driver you know the weekend's so intense you've seen it there's so much energy so much it's really really in a stressful environment for everyone that's working within it then you go home and there's a huge come down like one or two days later and you're trying to balance those emotions that emotional rollercoaster um and learning to kind of channel that and figure out ways to keep it balanced whether with your routine and those sorts of things has been really key for me but I think during the last couple of last few years really understanding that it's about the bigger picture um I'm fighting for something far greater than winning a race I'm really fighting for changing the world you know we're more divided than ever I would say it's devastating I can't watch the news it's devastating every there's so much happening but there are so many great people out there that are doing really great things and I want to be one of I want to be a part of that [Music] inspirational energy bubble that people like yourselves are a part of um because we want to we need to create a brighter future we need to create better Future Leaders look how many look how bad our leaders are that are in governments you know like we need to be as part of the next generation of thought leaders um that are positive and um yeah so that's what I'm trying to be a part of every day I'm so I'm really trying to focus on my intentions as you're talking about like setting your intentions each day um I'm trying to learn new tools that I didn't have when I was a kid I didn't I didn't know about yoga I didn't know about meditation um I didn't have podcasts to listen to good people to listen to and aspire to kind of help me put on the right path so yeah um yeah we've got a lot of work to do there's almost not enough time here on this planet right we're here for such a short time really in the Scale of the Universe yeah but I think you're one of those people that you know and that's when we first connected that was one of the biggest reasons for me that I saw you using your platform for a bigger purpose I was like oh that's fascinating like that's so interesting to me because that's a choice too I think today we kind of assume that if someone has a platform or if someone's you know number one in their field or if someone's got followers that they should talk about stuff we kind of assume that anyone who has followers should talk about stuff first of all I don't think that's the case I think a lot of people choose not to uh but but you were someone that stood out to me massively where I was just like wow this person's really not just winning on on the track but it's thinking about how winning on the track transfers to what you can do off the track because of the influence because of your network because of your impact and I find that to be really The Missing Link for so many people because I always say that your purpose is something not just that makes you happy it's when you use what makes you happy to serve other people like when you use it to impact other people's lives when did that drop for you like when did that click for you like were you ever I guess what I'm trying to say is there's a transition when you're saying that well you know winning like maybe get the nod from my dad and obviously I was bullied and then I'm winning but then I'm number one at something like was there a point at which number one didn't satisfy you or was there a point at which the success that came from it or or you didn't actually have to get dissatisfied you just found that there was a better way to be successful does that make sense the parv that was striking when you're just saying that for me it was like I feel like we often live in fear of what people think um how you're going to be judged how you're going to be received if you you're free outspoken you're going to lose your job you're going to be fired I've always been a outspoken person I think that's just been a quality I've never been a follower um I don't like to conform to how people expect what people of what people expect from you as I said I was having a success and I was like okay now I'm on I'm at the top what can I do with it yeah and there are so many causes there's so many problems out there and there's so many so many amazing causes and which one you know there's only one of you so like what where do you put the focus and that's take it took a long long time to really find what that was for me I think for me education was something that I felt extremely passionate about because I I've been out to India I'd been out into some of the really poorest places like Manila and seeing young kids who are like us but begging for food and not having the same opportunities and for me that was that broke my heart and realized how privileged we are and how fortunate we are it was like I want to be working with people out there that are trying to create more you know there's over 100 million kids that don't have access to school or education so how can I get involved in that so align yourself with people that do but I think I was I was winning and it was giving me that tip of happiness but then I would kind of drop back down to normality and there was something missing and it was that purpose really or understanding what that purpose was and understanding what why you've been put here why are you beginning the platform that you've that you've been given why were the only you know only people of color this whole time through it all and when I started speaking about um diversity people like oh you want to get more people of coloring as as racing drivers only 20 of us so as I know it's this forty thousand forty fifty thousand jobs there's thousands of engineering jobs in the background and there's such a lack of diversity coming through I want to be a part of Shifting that narrative and shifting that conversation and having people be question themselves and have those difficult conversations with with people so I first I just started by having those difficult conversations with my boss and one of the things he brings up that he said that hit him hard I said have you ever thought of as a white person walking into the paddock into the race weekend Paddock and being the only white person there he's like he's like I hadn't even thought of that I said well that's what it's like for someone like me when I'm in the room you noticed you noticed that out of 50 people in a meeting you're the only person the black person there and it's not because we are less is because there are these barriers within Society through education that are limiting people to be the best they can be so my job is to be empowering and improving representation I'm really really passionate like black Equity as well so that's why I got involved with the Denver Broncos Denver Broncos yeah yeah and usually when I'm in conversation with sponsors or companies I'm like hey so what it how diverse is your team what are you doing about diversity inclusion how are you creating a better work workspace for people that's what I want to be a part of I the success can come later and that's that would be along the way but if you're not asking those questions or you're not tackling those issues then we're not blind yeah and so all them pretty much every partner that we have we have a lot of Partners within our team I've asked these really difficult questions and they're like oh you know what but we can do more I'm like well let's do it you know yeah so I think I've grown very close with my like Mercedes-Benz and Gamma they've been so open that we changed the car from Silver to Black in 2020. and as again I said to them like the car's been silver forever it's always been silver arrows and I was like imagine if we change the card to Black well that could you know us turning up and arriving is how you show up and it's how you know imagine the message we can send and we had the black car for the whole year and we didn't even really talk much about it we just let it be and we went with it and that's when I won myself with that car so that's beautiful now that must have felt special it was honestly my whole life flashed by my not that last lap in Turkey my whole life like all the struggles the questioning whether you were going to make it or not just all those doubts all those fears kind of flash by Me by you know through my eyes and came across the line and I was like I did it and I wanted the kids out there to know that you can do it too you know um so that's what I try and like every day just try to be encouraging of kitchen yeah yeah do you sometimes feel that we were talking about this a bit earlier that you know in other sports we get to see the emotions and the expressions of players that we love or you know anyone who's on the court or the field of the pitch whereas with you because we don't get to see that in your eyes in your last lap like that we can only hear it today which is why I'm so grateful to have this moment because I obviously whenever whenever I'm sit down with someone who's a high performer like you it's obvious that there's so much emotion and preparation and power but with racing specifically you just don't get to see that do you sometimes feel that the only people that can truly relate to you are the people you compete with because I feel like it's like you said there's only 20 of you that are racing anyway it's lonely anyway 99 of people in the world have no idea what it feels like to drive a car as fast as you do and the way you do in in any comparison do you sometimes feel that the only people you can relate to are the people that are racing against you and then do you kind of feel is there a loneliness in that experience or is that kind of like a power in that as well definitely the other drivers I do feel that there's more we have a lot more in common than we think but we're so competitive and a lot of us have our defense like you want to beat the guy but then you like the guy you might like the person outside the car but you can't show that like there's this whole psychological battle you're having with yourself and getting away of yourself a lot of the time so I really feel like as an older driver I'm trying to be more like reaching out to youngsters and um because they're the future you know um and I'm excited to see some of these young drivers are coming through are so so talented I don't know if they've got the best structure around them like I mean like I didn't necessarily have the ultimate structure that I perhaps have now so just try to be a kind of a positive light to them but naturally none of them are black and none of them have necessarily faced the same as me but they've faced their own challenges and and things about respecting that with within everybody and I've tried to be create allies necessarily like in having the difficult conversations with some of them I mean I'm so grateful for I've had a couple of them it really took the knee with me in 2020 um just on that you know my dad was going back to the house with my dad my dad like never let me cry as a kid he said there's a sign of weakness like don't let me ever see you shed a tear so I remember just holding back through those difficult times as a kid holding back most of that stuff in 2020 I cried I hadn't cried for at least I think at least 10 years maybe more it was there was a lot of bottled up stuff that came up that I had not realized that didn't even know about suppressing a pain or a feeling so I remember kind of bending on my knees thinking no what has happened in the world I've got to I've got to be outspoken I've got to take that chance because if I don't do it then no one's gonna do it if I don't if I don't take the knee if I don't let people like me know that I care and I hear you and I'm I'm with you and I'm going to do something about it I'm going to risk it all I don't care if my partners want to drop me because I want to be associated with this narrative I don't I'm like and I literally let go of all the fear and that's why I went came so forward with it and I know it's not easy for everyone to do that um but I just want to really and try to encourage people out there too to be themselves to speak out if they've got a problem if they're seeing something within the work working environment or experiencing something you gotta be outspoken about it and there's a right way to do it the first day I was going to take the knee I remember I didn't feel like I could tell my team I was like because I know I felt that they wouldn't understand how important it is for me to do this this day so I remember I had my black lives matter a shirt hidden and I just wore it out there and I I went ahead within so no one knew no one knew but every uh the sport had built and made all these t-shirts like um we race as one yeah slogan and they gave these t-shirts to all the to everybody I was like I'm not wearing that that's not what this is about and so this is what I'm doing and this was around George Floyd right yeah and afterwards my team were like well why don't you if you just told us we could have prepared a bit over I had this fear that they would try and stop me perhaps but that was just a fear um they've been massively supportive through the whole thing My Hope was that you know kids would be watching me like what it what it what is that why is he taking me what what does that shirt mean what is going on Dad Mom and then the parents being in an awkward position having to explain it maybe but I think what was really encouraging for me I think when we started really getting into the whole diversity inclusion we did the research there was only three percent out of two thousand people in the team as three percent diversity so since then we've been on this Mission the team have started new projects we've discovered that the the sport generally hires from one group of universities which is not diverse and if there are any young black students that go there they're twice as unlikely to be hired when they come out compared to their counterparts and also paid less exercises all these things that perhaps people didn't know that's the Hamilton commission right yeah yeah and that just was interesting to to experience that and now now we're working on like a diversity Charter that all the teams have to be a part of and it's not mine it's for the sport and it's to encourage those teams because there's still not any diversity within you know if you look at Ferrari they don't have hardly any there's most teams don't um but when I go back to my team to the factory normally in our marketing department wasn't very diverse initially and I walked in after the pandemic and I started seeing such a more diverse group of people I was really quite emotional because I was like oh my God there's I'm starting to see change but you don't see that on TV yeah so when I talk to the to the bosses of the sport I'm like hey you know there's all white men facing oh and and me facing the camera at the start of the race where are the women where are the people of color we've got to be showing some young kids are watching and they're like oh there's a place for me there I can be there I can be an engineer I can be a mechanic or whatever it may be and even for young girls oh I can be a racing driver or an engineer a strategist or whatever you know so representation's so so key to inspiring the young youth especially in these industries that they already have less access to right like that's the point that it's not just it's not just representation because you want them to even have the opportunity it's the fact that there's just no access point which is what you're trying to create I think what's what I find really beautiful about you doing it is you're doing it though when you're like I'm having all my emotions come up at the same time as trying to be a voice for other people and when you're saying like I'm I'm taking a knee because I know I have to make a stand externally but internally you're taking a knee because so much of your own stuff from years ago is coming back up like that must be quite hard when you're that's that strikes me as something that's really inspiring about what you did is that you were going through your own healing at the same time as trying to do healing for the world there is so much healing to do right and I was completely oblivious to that I needed healing I needed to really peel back some of those layers um I think for people that turn into tune into a race and you mentioned earlier on but when you we arrive everything's set up We There is work that we're doing in the background naturally people don't see they just see a show but there is an unbelievable amount of work that goes on in the background um when I talk to people that talk about how much weight you lose they're like yeah you just sit in the car and you drive um there's this huge psychological and emotional roller coaster that you're going through that it would be really hard for people to comprehend and you would mention about all these other athletes you see their faces in other sports you can't see because we've got helmet on but you go through this roller coaster ride in the race and then you get out and they the camera's right in your face you're not prepared for that your emotions are shot particularly if you failed or feel like you failed and you don't always answer the right way if you wear your your heart on your sleeve people that don't necessarily like that necessary always people take advantage of that so then you build up all these protection mechanisms and mechanisms that's not necessarily you and at the core but won't be the safest thing for you you know what I mean like I read something the other day about it's like three steps of you and there's one the one of which you present your uh who you present there's you and your who you are to you and your family and friends and then there's one the part of you the real you that no one ever gets to see and I think just today in today's world it's so vicious on social media it's the media can be you know can really tell you apart and you build up you know like you you make a mistake in something you say in the media and your ridicule Feud you never do it again so you build up and you go more and more in your shell and you become harder for people to really relate to but I think for me what I've realized in these last few years is really peeling back those layers and you know letting people know that I grew up in a council state I you know I've lived on the sofa with my uh my my parents we've had those struggles um the successful people out there you see they too have had those things where we need to show that young kids who are going through that same thing that oh I can if he can get there or they can get there then it must be possible for me too yeah um and like being showing you about vulnerability that's something that I really struggled to to to do for a long long time and um like today that's something I think I'm a lot more open than I've ever ever been yeah I'm not living in fear every day and that's like the most that's the most important thing I think for me personally I'm living a much happier life because I'm I'm a lot more open yeah it's liberating yeah absolutely yeah it's liberating when you finally feel like you're not trapped or you're hiding held or yeah or hiding yeah or hiding my favorite quotes is from my Angelo when she says we are all powerful beyond measure and that really hit home also for me that that's my favorite quote because and I have a tattooed because really we are so we do limit ourselves we get in our own way right along with the other things that get in our way but a lot of our fear stops us from driving forwards from progressing and that's why like I do the craziest things I jump out of planes yeah you've done what 80 jumps yeah like just just I love challenging myself and doing things even though there's maybe fear there but overcoming that fear is like it's the best feeling when you overcome it and you realize that she was all just a bunch of nonsense in your head I want to encourage so all my friends I'm like let's go and do this today they're like are you crazy my dad don't even think as a kid my dad was like is he really my son because I wouldn't do any of these things and even still today um I still find that he's actually done skydiving with my Dad yeah he said he would never do it but he did it so but driving 200 miles per hour is probably one of the scariest things that you do all the time like that's not for you anymore whatever things I've never had that fear yeah uh as a kid and I was just never you know I think if you go on a ski slope and you see these kids coming by the kids are generally Fearless right yeah but think as you go get older yes you start you hurt yourself a little bit you start protecting yourself more and more but I just don't have that I think I feel like that was something that just wasn't necessarily put in me I'm terrified of spiders yeah that's the only thing but I'm doing 200 miles an hour that's actually when I'm most at peace I would say yeah it's like I'm like flowing it's like my that's my element and that's why I like I love doing what I do it could be really really hard when I start racing I've been doing for 30 years I'm 37 I've been racing 30 years and when you stop like what what's gonna match that nothing's gonna have a probably a match being in the stadium or being at the race and being at the Pinnacle the sport being at the front of the greater or coming through the grid that motion that I get there when I do stop that will be a there'll be a big hole Yeah so I'm trying to generally focus on things find things that are going to replace that that will also be just as rewarding and that's like Mission 44 for me meeting kids at schools having these conversations with families and parents who clearly you're going through difficult times and want to create the best opportunity for their kids encouraging them they're like okay I've been there too look where I got so you can get there it's just got to work through it that's for me the that's way more rewarding than winning the race yeah so much more yeah that's I'm so grateful and I'm so happy that everyone's gonna getting to hear this I felt you're the only and I know you know you're talking about when that happens but it's brilliant that you're planning already because you can see how so many athletes mentally when they know their career has somewhat of a shelf life or a somewhat of a time span like it's so hot it's it just completely wrote but I remember you're reminding me of when I had the fortune of sitting down with Kobe Bryant and I said sat down with him when he'd already retired wow and I interviewed him oh so great I'm so jealous he was one of those people that was not upset being retired he loved it because he knew that his mission for him was to make these short movies and make all these uh Sports based content to inspire kids to tell their stories and to help them find better stories and so it's exactly what you're saying where he wasn't he's one of those people that I've met he was not sad about he was so happy he was so pumped that's what I'm working towards yeah because he he knew that he had a mission and he had a purpose and he'd gone and won an Oscar for a short movie that he'd made and you know he was creating content to inspire kids and that's where his heart was and of course watching his daughters play and so I'm super inspired by him yeah I know but yeah like when you said that that's what I remembered and and he was in the same boat he was like I always wanted to script right and never had time to script right he said I was always playing basketball and he goes but then I started script writing and I got a coach and then I was writing and getting better as a writer that's what I think when I've spoken to other athletes we focused so much on that being the best you can be and that one thing that the other things that you also love like if it's playing an instrument or if it's writing scripts like it all falls everything falls away and yeah um how can you come compartmentalize staying in the in the zone in the focus Lane but also building up some of those other skills and discovering other passions you know people's we've heard people tell LeBron shut up and dribble like yeah that's there there's a lot of people put you in the box and say this you can only do one thing but as I've seen and spoken to some people that are active and retired a lot of them say when particularly when they retire that they everything kind of fell apart like everything fell to the ground they had nothing to back it up with and they hadn't discovered what they're doing next so then they go through this emotional Journey um of of Discovery but it takes time so I'm like trying to learn from those things and applying them and find the other things that I'm passionate about so I generally feel today that I have lots of things in the pipeline that when I do stop it's gonna be like so grateful but I have something better that I'm moving on to yeah um but I I have no doubts that I oh me and my dad will always have to go to the go-kart track or something you know I'm always going to be competitive yeah I can't that's literally a strain in My DNA that's just never gonna gonna shift I'm competitive at everything I'm happy to hear that it's it's it's I'm sure that's refreshing it's great for people to also hear that even to inspire young people or Inspire anyone who's gone to a place in their career where they know that there's a certain moment where things are going to wind down but then they're going to transition I think I don't think we celebrate the transitions enough in life and life is made up of transition absolutely and people think that it's maybe less or something but it's yeah it's it's not about that yeah exactly so it's fascinating you found that what are some of these like you said like um you know I've been doing jumps I've been doing this with my friends what are some of the routines that you put into place to help you manage your mindset because I feel like you're you said that being at 200 miles per hour for the duration of a race is like being in flow for you that means you're extremely comfortable with your own thoughts extremely comfortable with being in a high stress high pressure environment but being just with your own self talk to us about how you I mean it sounds like that's always been the case but what have you done to become more and more comfortable with that yeah I think naturally this is the natural ability right but um I've been out of focus for an hour and 45 minutes without making mistakes and that's that's literally insane it's unbelievable dealing with the pressures um a friend actually asked me last night because I talk about we lose a lot of race a lot of weight in the race yes like sometimes you can lose up to 10 pounds like four kilos and people like whoa I need to be particularly in America they're like oh I need to be a racing driver um for the weight loss but this question is my friend asked me the other day that's like where does the where does the weight go like yeah because my suit doesn't because afterwards I weigh less but the I'm like so it must evaporate you somewhere so I've never got to figure out where all that weight actually truly goes because it obviously isn't in sweat but that's like messed my mind about um but the suit definitely is obviously a little bit heavier but um it's about gaining tools and I think as when I was younger I didn't have I knew how to arrive at the race I channeled the so this emotion that I had through whatever those difficulties were into my driving so it's laser focused like if you watch a video for me when I was five years old on Blue Pizza you'll see I'm just laser focused but um being able to control emotions being out to be calm and present staying centered there are loads of obviously different methods that people can use so things that I try to that I've started to incorporate over the years more in my life is things like stretching things like yoga and meditation has been a real that for me was something that I never thought that that I kind of turned a blind eye to it when I was younger I thought that's not gonna be helpful but being able to be sit still for a second and listen to the noises around you um and understand you want to tap into that kind of in a child or whatever it may be that's for me been taking that moment for yourself each day treating yourself with love and being kind to yourself you know because I think for a long time I wasn't kind to myself and that's been a process uh doing things that being purposeful and and having real certain intentions each day no matter how big or small and you know I wake up I'm looking in the mirror brushing your teeth then stop for a second sake this today's gonna be the day today's gonna be great um and no matter what you're faced with you know just whatever you come out with yeah yeah talking to yourself also speaking to people I think is very important I think as a kid as I said I didn't feel like I could speak to people I didn't feel like I could tell my mom about these experiences I felt embarrassed I couldn't tell my dad so I thought he would fulfill think less of me I couldn't talk to any of the teachers couldn't tell my most my friends most of them uh weren't particularly of color so but finding learning to be open and speak to people or find someone to speak to whether it's a therapist or whatever that's that's been a huge um help um I don't not necessarily have a therapist especially someone that I'm able to then just have shoot a with basically yeah um and confide in and Trust like trust has been something that I've never had done didn't trust anybody through those experiments I had as a kid and it's been very very hard to build trust with people but creating allies finding things that are that you have in common with people like my boss for example him and I just breaking each other down and then just having realizing that was similar in many many ways but also very different but that's not what should divide us we can then be allies and so that's why we're working on being the most diverse team we're working on pushing we have we've studied ignite which is about getting you know improving that pipeline of into motorsport for people um from underserved communities and there's so much work to do you're doing it though man I'm trying to I'm trying to and you know to the point you were asking earlier like has has enough been done absolutely not in the industry yes and like you don't feel that yeah and it's not only in either industry it's everywhere and is that your goal to sort in the industry and then expand out or you're starting you're starting across the board anyway yeah yeah that well with the team with where it's we started an organization which called ignite which we both fund and that is focused on the sport Motorsport in general but Mission 44 is focused on a much you know societal challenges and barriers and and education and um that's a focused in the UK at the moment but I want to bring that over to the states absolutely man um you know hopefully by at least 2024 um also just been to Africa and there is so much Beauty there and I really really want to have an imp you know really want to help there as well so yeah um we will continue to expand but we're one of the one of the few black founding non-profit organizations in UK and with um black CEO for example a very diverse group of people um and just having those conversations with people of just what a diverse Workforce means and how that bet can benefit you when you have people from different backgrounds all coming up with a diverse diverse thought and creation it's that's how you have more success yeah it's a no it's a no-brainer when you hear it and you're just like wow that makes so much sense and creativity is better and you you'd be able to come up with far more innovative ideas and you've got so many more cultures now being celebrated involved and I I feel like it's it's interesting to me that the world hasn't caught on with that yet like it's it's interesting that even despite there being progress there's not enough progress but what what is the block like what is the stop is it a mindset is it just habits and laziness like what is the actual like if you got to the core of it from everyone you've been speaking to like what are you what is the issue is the issue that yeah is the issue just laziness and just oh this is the way things have always been or is it or is there actually like a setup I don't have the answer to it I I ask that question all the time and I come up with lots of different theories in my mind um sometimes I'm like maybe people don't just don't care maybe people's problems are so big that they don't have time to focus on other things and it's hard enough just to do the thing that you're focused on or just overcoming the issue that you're overcoming so how am I gonna have more time to yeah to speak about these things why should I take the risk and risk my next step and so I feel like it's about learning to be selfless right and um which is difficult to do if you're not being loving yourself and not in a good place yeah so I think it all comes to us at hopefully a time at a certain point in our lives um but also you know we live in a time where like social media is so it's such a dangerous it's such a powerful tool but it's also can be so dangerous and so dividing and I see people out there today and there's people that I admire that I'm that that I would follow and I'd be like how they projecting something that's not necessarily healthy for you for people out there how are they projecting they're not using this platform to be more inspirational or be more positive and there's others that are but then I don't you can't judge because that's their Journey well you can continue to do is try to you know with that Maya Angelou quote it's about being shining your light as bright as you can possibly get it and hope that by doing it you I think you automatically uh encourage the people around you to want to do the same and I never truly understood that until I see the team that I work with how we all Inspire each other how with this year for example we've had the you know 2022 has been one of the hardest years for us as a team um as we didn't build a great car and we had our struggles as many people do and how we've had to all come closer and the relationship I've had with people that I've worked with this team for 10 years and there's conversations we've had this year people have opened up like they've never opened up before people have cried like it's been it's been beautiful to see yeah I feel like with some a far better team than we've ever been before because we're living with intention we're actually talking about impact that everyone in the team's gone and had diversity inclusion training no one's been kind of like I'm not I'm not going through that class why do I have to go and learn with diversity and inclusions about it I'm and why it doesn't impact me you know people like I understand it doesn't I wouldn't necessarily notice it but I want to understand it more so I can be better in my working environment it's been unbelievable that's amazing also leaders within our sport are now now where we are on a road to being a more diverse and more inclusive sport but I think my job is to continuously make sure that it that that same the effort that we're putting in now doesn't kind of fall away and become kind of you know just because it was um trending yeah yeah yeah that is actually something that's on the top of the list sustainability is on the top of our list and that real true core values we don't go out of our way well you know because a lot of people it's very easy to kind of be led by the money success but making sure you stick to your core values it's so true so important it goes back to what you said though that that's what real leaders do like leaders don't follow what's trending like leaders have focused on transformation and then they're dedicated to transformation and they're going to keep doing it until they see a change whereas followers follow Trends and oh it's not trending now it doesn't matter we'll focus on something else but you know obviously it's so clear just listening to you today and it's amazing Because unless I'm so glad I've had this opportunity to talk to you because I can hear just how deeply dedicated you are to this and how it's at your core it's like it's everything that comes out of your pores today is just you know which is which is really special to see a value being embodied like to empower other people you have to embody the value first it doesn't just you don't just go around empowering people and so to hear how your soul and heart is like completely a sponge for this stuff and then to wanting to go and share it with the world it's really remarkable man ah thank you yeah well I mean it's I've I'm by far perfect no yeah I know and I think that's like it's not about being perfect it's about just every day one step at a time trying to be better trying to do more yeah and um learning a lot about myself I've had to break myself down in order to be able to be better and what do you mean by breaking yourself down uh well just when you when I told you about like all those barriers you put up over time to protect yourself and then kind of like knocking those barriers down yes and it's enabled me to connect with more people it's enabled me to realize my place in the world and I don't feel like I don't belong anymore I feel like uh you know I've got a place and I've got a purpose and that's and I think a lot of people are struggling to find that purpose but it's okay you'll you will find it do not give up keep getting up you know like just keep saying those things to yourself and you will eventually find it and you know you're already living in your purpose and having such a huge impact on so many people you know telling stories which uh is it's amazing to see um I started this production company inspired by like Kobe and so many out there but stories for me storytelling I watch a lot of movies I don't know about you but yeah I love movies especially Sports movies yeah like when I go home I'll like I you know order takeaway or make myself some pasta or something like that and then I put the plate in front of me and I can't eat till I found something to watch like my my Escape is watching a movie and I always like to find something hopefully inspiring yes but what the reason I created this um production company is because you know until recently we didn't have any people of color are superheroes We I think these stories storytelling is so so important for people out there for inspiring people and and I want to make sure that in and everything that I do every project that I work on is with a diverse Workforce like I'm doing this from one movie with um Brad Pitt and Joe kazinski and um but my job is to make sure that it's diverse behind the camera as it is on screen the story is empowering and uplifting um it's not there's no BS in terms of the racing and hopefully one kid will watch it and yeah or more and feel empowered to go and do something great absolutely I love that man I'm so glad you're doing that because when you said do I like movies the movie that came to my mind was uh race have you seen race because yeah so like that the story is unbelievable but when you watch the movie as well it's unbelievable to see what Jesse Owens did like to think that he had to go I can't even imagine I can't you know you just can't imagine if everyone's not seen the movie you have to go see them yeah it's just one of those movies that's like how do you do that like how do you go and race in Nazi Germany like I have like I must have been terrified terrifying and you know there's been so many great stories like that that are out there that need telling yeah um continuously telling yeah 42 is another one yeah 42 is awesome um but yeah there is these really unique people out there I think for me being in this sport being the only one and being the first is that is that has been lonely yeah and that has been really really a difficult thing to kind of understand and and um through my life I know many many people like Jesse for example being the first and only at the time you know I've taken huge inspiration from him Nelson Mandela was like ah he's just one of my biggest biggest Inspirations um I was so so fortunate to get to meet him when I was I was like 23 or something oh wow what was that like yeah ah it was mind-blowing I mean when you when you then I got to form one and you have the success all these things come and you don't even you've dreamed of being a racing driver but you didn't dream that all the other things of all the other things that come along like meeting other unbelievable people I went to Nelson Mandela's 90th birthday in London and I was sat on his table in this huge room full of like Bill Clinton was there like uh Denzel Washington was there open Winfrey sat right next to me like all these people that you would never ever in the million years dream of think you would ever get to meet yeah and then you discover and they're also just human beings with feelings and with emotions and with their own challenges but I was so young at the time it was it was I don't even recognize myself when I look back at me seven years ago I see a shell of me and I think I look today and see myself and know myself so much more um and that's again that's an empowering experience to be in but yeah I went into the room and met him and he sat at his chair and it was like walking into I was like God or like a king you know and his silk shirt was his Aura was something you could see his Aura his smile he was beaming that was the most probably the most impactful day for me um as a youngster wow Lewis it's unbelievable talking to you I mean what you've achieved on the track off the track and now I'm even more excited to see you continue to achieve uh as your journey continues because I'm going to say this and I don't say this often and I genuinely my team can vouch for and everyone else can listen back to any episode I think you're one of the most on-purpose people I've ever interviewed and I appreciate that no and I genuinely like it just there's nothing else that comes from your being apart from what your purpose currently is with Mission 44 and and it's it's really remarkable to meet someone who's so on purpose I don't I genuinely don't have that experience and the only person you reminded me of was Kobe he had it too when I was around him there was no there's nothing else it wasn't like he missed anything he was at peace he was it was peace with purpose you know and you have that same Aura and spirit from from at least my experience thank you so much it's so kind of you yeah and I really mean that I really mean that it's incredible so uh we we end every episode with a Fast Five which means every question has to be answered in one word to one sentence maximum okay and we ask these same questions to every guest that's ever been on the show I should be prepared for that because I've seen you so well no the the first question is what's the best advice you've ever heard or received I think it was the achieve my dad uh never give up that's been like the slogan in the back of my mind every single day the other one would be um just that you'll always be learning and that's what I learned from Nelson Mandela he was like I'm 19 and I'm still learning today and like I was like what can you tell me it's like I'm still learning today and it's okay to be learning you're always going to be learning something new and growing yourself wow that's beautiful very like wow but like guys that was pretty basic but no but it's not it's it's powerful knowing he said that yeah as in the fact that he said that on his 90th birthday that is powerful because it's a long way to go yeah and it's like a lot of people I feel like a lot of people feel by 90 especially him he has so much wisdom to share yeah but the fact that his wisdom was I'm just learning that yeah I'm still learning that's pretty cool all right second question uh what's the worst advice you ever heard or received give up it's just the opposite yeah yeah literally the worst bit of advice and it wasn't I mean it wasn't necessarily advice but I when I was younger there was other parents of other racing drivers I was racing against I remember this one guy and he's like she just you just don't have it you should just give up their parents were saying their parents the grown man in these 40s or 50s told me that and I was eight told you told me yeah to my face and I remember just being so like what am I supposed to do with that what do you mean give up what was the reason I would imagine because I was beating his kid maybe I don't know I never really thought of what the reason would be and the same with teachers you know yeah what is this crap you know you're terrible at this you'll never know go to the next set you're never gonna amount to anything why are you even here I had a parent I had a teacher tell me that and wow it broke me down so much question number three uh how do you deal with loss and how do you deal with the win I think success is as I mentioned earlier short-lived success is there's a lot less learn in succ	50s told me that and I was eight told you told me yeah to my face and I remember just being so like what am I supposed to do with that what do you mean give up what was the reason I would imagine because I was beating his kid maybe I don't know I never really thought of what the reason would be and the same with teachers you know yeah what is this crap you know you're terrible at this you'll never know go to the next set you're never gonna amount to anything why are you even here I had a parent I had a teacher tell me that and wow it broke me down so much question number three uh how do you deal with loss and how do you deal with the win I think success is as I mentioned earlier short-lived success is there's a lot less learn in succ	-5	8	-3	50s told me that and I was eight told you told me yeah to my face and I remember just being so like what am I supposed to do with that what do you mean give up what was the reason I would imagine because I was beating his kid maybe I don't know I never really thought of what the reason would be and the same with teachers you know yeah what is this crap you know you're terrible at this you'll never know go to the next set you're never gonna amount to anything why are you even here	you're terrible at this you'll never know go to the next 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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjK5ahIgsHA	4,193	rjK5ahIgsHA	2024-03-25 00:00:00	the choices that you're making are really either supporting you or not straight from the pages of Victoria Secret please welcome jaelle bunin gazelle bunin gazelle has walked in nearly 500 fashion shows and great the covers of more than 1,200 different magazines on paper like you're perhaps highly unrelatable you know what it is it's a character that's the job I do to kind of make a living so I can like you know put foot on the table raising children is is by far the most challenging thing I've ever done it's a different kind of modeling is the type of modeling that I prefer food is a perfect time for you to practice being present and mindful because it can be really simple it doesn't have to be complicated to eat healthy nature is just like it's me instead of like trying to control nature we need to just like take a humble pill and and learn from the Big Mama [Music] today's episode is brought to you by the awesome organizations that make this show [Music] possible so nice to meet you nice to meet you too so excited to have you here today yes when this opportunity presented itself I was like of course I want to talk to Jazelle and then I had my own like sort of mini panic attack we're going to get into panic attacks I'm like what could I possibly talk to this person about the alltime great super model of all time everybody knows this on paper like you're perhaps highly unrelatable but then the more you dig into your story and the more I kind of learned about your Arc and your past and what brought you to this place there's so much that's deeply relatable and your kind of transformation story is remarkably similar to mine although you did yours at like 23 I was 40 um but there's so much in there so I thought it would be cool to kind of um talk a little bit about what it was like what happened and how you made these changes in your life because I think you're in this interesting new season right now where despite the fact that you've been this Wellness Advocate and wellness Warrior for a long time my sense is that there's a there's a more full Embrace of of that now with kind of how you see yourself and what's important to you a well thank you for the introduction you know the funny thing is I you know people's you know what I did for a living is something that kind of just happened to me at 14 years old you know it was it was like hey do you want to be a model and I thought oh I can help my family you know I can do make a living and and help you know I have five sisters and and all that so modeling to me is something that is um an opportunity that came along like I think in life you have these opportunities that either you take that train and then see where it goes you know and I never even believed that this was going to take me and I was going to be doing this for almost 30 years you know it's it's one of those things that I was like oh I'll start doing this job and you know send money home and help my sisters go through school and do all that and um and maybe in five years you know I'll get a house because I didn't even go to school you know I I I was emancipated at 14 yeah you were in Tokyo at 14 I was living in Japan without speaking English and J or Japanese and that's when I when I start learning the language of of of energy you know what I mean because you don't have to understand the language you just have to feel you know something there's a lot more that has been said without words you know sure so I start learning about that um but I think that I went through this journey of modeling which was something I thought was going to last five years and I was just going to help my family out for a little bit and it just kept going you know it just kept happening you know I I didn't even think you can have longevity in this career because it's not what I what I saw really around me happening um but you know I kept it kept working out so I kept doing it and it was kind of a Mindless thing you know when you got in the hamster wheel and I think we do that sometimes in life and you're so young you don't know and you Liv the fast life and all of that so in my early 20s I um developed you know anxiety and panic attacks and all that because you know when you drink a bottle of wine and that because you like I used to be a smoker so I smoke I can't even imagine I used to smoke it feels like a whole different life you know but um it was the late 90s and there was a lot of um drugs and fashion and all that so I thought I was saying just because I was like having some wine and smoking cigarettes everybody was doing way worse things than yeah I'm sure you've seen a lot I've seen a lot yeah that's a whole other show about that that's a whole other story but yeah so um you know so that was the beginning for me to start reconnecting with myself because I think when I was 14 and I got that train my only focus was like how can I be the best that I can do on this and and and that was my focus and and I didn't meure any sacrifice he was like if I had to work 360 days a year and I felt like I couldn't say no because people were giving me a chance and then I was like in this really overdrive uh and burn down my adrenals I found out later when I found this amazing natural Doctor Who told me like listen you don't have any more adrenal they're shut down because you burn them basically I'm like but I'm only 22 you know so um basically I had to change the habits that I you know smoking a pack of cigarettes drinking alcohol every day to myself down coffee all day to keep myself up and also going from you know one time zone to the next I was three days in Paris two days in London one day in New York going back to you know my life was in a living in a suitcase and of course your nervous system is going to freak out you know and the way I was eating it was very you know anything that was in front of me I was just like not mindful about anything you know I was just kind of um like a Workhorse and when that happen to me is when I you know I come from a family that is very my my grandmother had a tea for everything so we never had we were not the kind of you know you get sick let me see this herbal remedy that we you know so yeah you grew up in kind of a small village right in Brazil your grandmother was cultivating herbs and she was the person that everyone would go to for their remedy so you have this sort of background and connection you know with the Earth exactly that you know is kind of lingering in the back of your mind when you're just you know hammering nails and and you know drinking wine and living that life but you're young it's like that's kind of what your 20s are for kind of and you're you're on this like Jet Plane I mean figuratively and literally like your career's taking off on top of that a people pleasing tendency where you feel like you have to say yes to everything and you're just go go go go go yeah and and I think but that was a big wakeup call for me because I think sometimes you know you have to reach rock bottom and when I had that those anxiety and they start becoming like almost CRI because I couldn't get on planes he was just you know I was going to all these doctors and they were like you have to take this stuff and I was just afraid of taking anything because I've never taken anything you know I was a there was a t for for this there you know my grandmother wasn't there so finally you know I wasn't going to take any medication because just the idea of taking something I was like I was normal before how can I go back being what I was you know like I I I didn't have these issues so what's happening long story short I found this doctor I had to replace my habits it was that simple I had to replace these habits that had created the reality I was living at that moment which was you know um really killing me in in so many ways you know killing my spirit killing my and and I replace it with good habits so now instead of smoking cigarettes and having a mocha frappuccino in the morning I'll would go out and do breath work and go out for a run and you know I replace in one day I gave up everything because he he looked at me he said jelle he called me Adrenalina he says do you want to live and I said I do he's like so we going to CH change my diet and that's for the first time in my life that I realized that I I was really like the one who got myself there and I was the only person who could get myself out by the choices that I was making so I had to take full responsibility for what I had created but it was in my power only in my power to change that there were no doctors nobody who was going to save me I had to change um you know the choices I was making and I and I did that and it was incredible because after over a year and a half like really struggling with anxiety and panic attacks and all that within 3 months I was like I never had another incident and it was you know and and once you start meditating I mean at that point this was 20 years ago right it wasn't like people were talking about meditation and yoga any other that um it was just um you know when you sit in silence and you and you reflect which is what we don't really give ourselves time to do because the world is so fastpaced and everything is catching your attention is trying to throw you off your Center you know everything is so busy it's like an overload of information to have that space to go inside and reflect and look and really take a step back I think that was the biggest blessing of my life so really I think what could have killed me is what gave me a whole new life and it was amazing because since then like everything changed like I realized that food is my medicine I realized that I am the director of my own movie that I'm creating my reality based on the choices that I'm making but what I'm choosing to not the people I'm choosing to have around in my life but what type of energy what kind of thoughts I allow to what am I feeding you know what kind of thoughts am I so all of that so that became like a big um changing of seasons for me in my early 20s what were those first couple weeks like if you went completely cold turkey on all of these bad habits I think it was like a drug addict I never was a I guess I was a drug etic only legal drugs because I guess alcohol is a drug and so is cigarettes nicotine and all that and caffeine and all that but they're like socially accepted but I tell you that I had the worst migraine I mean I felt like the I mean maybe that's what a person who's going like you have gone to to rehab right so I'm I don't know what you felt I would love to hear but I for me it was like right I mean I don't know about that sub it's the only way I know how to do it though I don't understand how people kind of phase out of stuff like you have to for me you have to draw the line and step over it and it's going to suck and you're going to be uncomfortable for a while while um but you know that on the other side of that lies all of this opportunity and possibility um but uh and that's what happened to me I think there was that because what I knew I knew that what I was and what if you do what you've always done you're going to get what you've always gotten is that simple and what I realized at that moment that what I what I created for myself was not what I wanted I needed to a drastic change and then he was like draw the line stopped everything in one day and the migraines and all of that like the consequences of what I had done I had to deal with them you know it took me like two weeks I think I was like having the worst migraines just because I didn't know if it was the nicotine the caffeine the alcohol I don't know what it was but it was all of it together and um but then it was amazing because from that experience I I became so much stronger and I and there are lots of different things that happen in my life after that I feel like every time we get tested it's like the Super Mario you know like the little video game when you go to do the big boss like you go through all the phases and you go to level one the big boss is like one it's okay to defeat that one but then the second one is like a tough for big boss and then the third one is you know it's like it's life I feel like that's what life is you get like the new tools so you get equipped and then you go to the next challenge that is a bigger one and then is a bigger one I feel like that's why we're here you know to keep seeing how we can expand how much more we can to grow to evolve to expand to see how strong and how creative and how you know how can how much we can experience of all this wonder how did you how did you plug that into the fast-paced life of of your modeling career because it's one thing if you're living a more kind of grounded atome lifestyle where you can control your food and your environment a little bit better but when you're flying all over the world and you're on these sets and there's craft service and it's junk food like you have to be way ahead of the curve to prepare everything to have everything kind of organized for yourself because how do you you if you're in just hotels all over the place and you arrive at midnight like how are you getting your you know like how did so how did you manage all of that you have to be very discipline I think you know when I I did this book called lessons and um and it was like everything starts to discipline that was like my first chapter and that's what I believe you have to decide you have and then you have to have the discipline to follow through so once you realize that these choices that you are making are having a positive impact in your life you want to continue doing them you know what I mean you don't want to fall back and just something that it didn't feel good that's your past like you don't want to go back there again so you're going to stick to the plan like this is what's working and this is what made me feel good again so I'm going to stick to this and of course it's not 100% you have to be compassionate with yourself too and say you I'll be like you know life is hard as it is you need to bit yourself in the head sometimes if you go and you oh you know I had like um I was exhausted I had like a banana bread or something or I had you know but I think you realize that the choices that you're making are are really either supporting you or not you know supporting you living the life that making you feel good and living the life that you want and is taking to the direction where you want to go or not and then it's just kind of an easier choice to make right and then I feel like when I go to the jobs you know I got to the point in my life where people know how I eat and you know I can tell people like listen this is what I want I want you got extensive riter yeah I kind of you know because I was already working for so long so I I have you know I got to the I guess really the privilege to be able to to kind of say like this is the kind of things that I would like to eat so please at the job you know if you're working 10 12 hours in a studio can we have these things available you know what I mean so then it was easier to keep the food healthy you know um because I think that's so important and then just to say I feel like and then saying no to those things you know like coffee or alcohol or things that I was just so used to because I was still in that same environment the environment hadn't changed I had changed but all of that was around me still but then it was just a choice of saying you know I feel great and I haven't drank alcohol in over two years now too this is something you know I even when I went back drinking after it was very moderate you know I was still like like I would drink socially sometimes you know peer pressure sometimes like oh come on have a drink you know and then you like feel like especially in my world I mean everyone pretty much is like socially having a drink so I would be like okay I'll have a drink but then he got to a point that I was like and that was like 20 years later because it just happened over two years ago I was like I don't want to drink like I don't care what anyone thinks and I don't care if they have Fe peer pressure I'm going to have my Min tea my cam tea and if they want to drink I'm not making anyone feel bad about drinking they can do whatever they want this is their Temple you know this is my temple I get to choose and they shouldn't make me feel bad that I don't want to you know so um then I kind of stood up for myself I think that happens after your 40s like you care less about what other people think and um wait till you're 50 oh my God I can't wait for that I'm gonna like he's he's gonna be amazing but I think the thing you mentioned you mentioned like being directed and and and being kind of dedicated to your path and and and I feel like that's the underappreciated aspect of of understanding you and your career a lot of people arrive in New York City every single day with a similar dream or ambition that you had when you were a young person and you arrived there and a lot of those people are very beautiful you're beautiful but that doesn't tell the story of how you translated like an opportunity into the career that you had and I think between the lines there is an intense work ethic and a very intentional approach to what you were doing like how did you apply those skills like what is the differentiator between you and the career that you've enjoyed versus you know the other beautiful people who aren't enjoying the same kind of career you can't and you're not allowed to say luck or you're you know no I don't believe I don't believe in luck I don't believe in luck I believe in hard work and but I believe in um I mean I think discipline but I also believe that I always treated everyone the way I like to be treated and I've always was appreciative I have this immense sense of gratitude for just being there so even though you know people were like oh you know you you know when I was 19 I was like I want the model of you know the model of the year and everybody's like how does it feel to be it didn't really it doesn't matter to me because quite frankly I never saw myself as a motel it's just not something I didn't drink the Kool-Aid I didn't believe because I was a model or because I I became successful in this job like I was better than anybody I just and I didn't believe that I believe that I just got to learn that craft really well and I understood what the job entail and like I learned how to do the job really well but by no means is what defined me it's just something I did it's not it's not who I am I don't know if you know it's like I go there I had this opportunity at you know 13 14 years old when I finally left home and and and and St pursued this career that really I thought it was just really I did it for the money I did it because I was like what else am I going to do at 14 years old that I can help my family you know I don't have any other jobs that are offering me an opportunity so I'll take this one so for me it was really like a job so I never like it didn't kind of Define me I kind of did it my way like I never became like you know it was like oh it needs to be glamorous I was never glamorous I'm a jeans and t-shirt type of girl like I if I needed to go to parties or hang out with this type of people I never did any of that like I went there I did my job I did the best that I could I never was late in my life for my jobs like never showed up like late I was there before everyone I was there 100% you know I I I just wanted to make sure that if people were booking me and they they were trusting in me that I was going to show up and deliver you know and I think that's kind of what it was I did it my way you know and it didn't broke me kind of Cu I saw you know people in this business you know you can lose yourself because if you drink the Kool-Aid if you start thinking you know like you lose yourself in it I never lost myself it was just a job and it's still just a job I can't even believe I'm still doing it sometimes I go in and I do it you it's not it's not what I do full- time anymore but it's just one of those things that you know I got to do this I got to make a career out of it and got to make a great living and help my family and I I have wonderful you know I got to travel the world and learn different languages and and and all of that and that's how I see it I don't see it as a you know I don't see myself you're not defined by it you're not you're not caught up in in the kind of dark underbelly of that very strange world this whole world is like almost like a parallel reality for me you know what I mean if something is like a switch on button I go there I do my job I take my picture I turn it off I go home and I have the same friends I have my my family I'm very close with my family but I think you're very good at seeing opportunities when they arise and you tell a little story in in in the new book about being 14 and on route to Tokyo and your parents gave you your dad gave you a little bit of money that was intended for getting a cab from that's the first day arve in s Paulo and instead of using that money oh it was you were super young right so you had a little bit of money to take a tab and you had the presence of mind to say this money would be better spent buying some clothes so I can do better in my auditions or whatnot um which isn't like that's not normal like that's somebody who's thinking ahead who's planning long term who's understanding that they have an opportunity in front of them and trying to figure out how to make the most out of it with limited resources and I think that speaks to or says a lot about your sensibility or your perspective as a business person yeah I mean it's so interesting to see it that way I mean I for me at that moment in time you know I I I just felt like I did something else than that you know that was one of the things and now that you're saying that I actually did that throughout because I bought my first apartment when I was 19 years old and when everybody was buying you know designer bags all the models and you know like remember I didn't know I was going to last in this business I thought like I didn't go to school I didn't go to high school I didn't you know I I left I I went to work and whenever I go I go back I thought I was going to be a farmer or something because I just always love the land and but I I didn't think like you know like where am I going to go from here so I have to make sure that I have at least a place to live I'm a cancer so I want to have like a stable home and when I was 19 you know people start flying me first class because I was like the model of the year right saw all the clients now are paying me first class I was exchanging those tickets for Coach classes because I was every two three days in a different country and instead of paying um my you know a rent in an apartment I pay I put down a down payment for an apartment and then I was paying my mortgage instead of paying rent and you're 19 and I was 19 so I I own my first apartment as 19 years old it was like a in in New York City it was like facing a wall of another building mind you he was like a very apartment you know that does require some maturity and some long-term thinking well well because I just thought to myself like you know I don't know how long I'm going to stay here you know I i' I at least I have to have a place to live if I like I'm not going to live empty-handed you know what I mean like what do I care about a bag or like what is that going to give me it's not going to be a roof over my head I need to make sure that I have that I can spend in the right places but I think that sense came from my mother because we grew up you know my mother was a cashier in the bank my father had like lots of different jobs like he had a real estate job but he was you know my mom they literally we we were like really simple people and grew up in two bedrooms with six girls and and and money was all always tight so I learned how to is the same thing in the book is like how do you prepare how do you not waste food I mean everything is like I think in my life I was kind of like raised that way you know what I mean kind of plan ahead like for tomorrow so you make sure that you have like food for everyone like like we're going to reuse the meat we cook on the barbecue and we're going to put it in the rice we're going to have carera so we're going to have an abundant meal because we have the rest of the you know what I mean it's kind of like that it's like you put money in the bank so when you retire you have something to to live off when you can no longer work the same thing I feel about food like you eat the right food so when you're older you you're able to have the energy and your body is functioning because you made the right choices so for me it's the same thing you know it's kind of making like just being kind of what is necessary here like do I really need this what do I need more do I need a roof over my head or do I need this this bags and this stuff do I need to take a taxi when I arrive to the model apartment when I'm 14 even though I never been to the city or can I take the subway and save the money so I can get the clothes for the casting and maybe I can get a job it's like it's kind of thinking like with the resources that I have right now what is the smartest how is the smartest way to use them I guess if you're like me never without a water bottle let's get it right people allow me to rock your world with my new favorite toy that's actually not a toy at all it's a non-negotiable essential camel backs Podium steel 100% % leak proof water bottle emphasis on leak proof for all 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it's you know what it is it's a character I always call call it her because I think being a MTO what I understood as being a motto is to play a character in a silent movie you know you get to experience all these different charact all these different aspects of of of being a woman let's say because one designer wants you to be more androgynous you know one designer was you know I remember diding a Balin Saga campaign I was like they made me a boy I was like literally like a week I was like a man a boy and in one I was like the sexy Versace campaign like you know like with big hair and like you know pushup bra you know so it was kind of like I got to play from the the androgynous girl to the very sexy to the tomb boy like I got to you know I mean you should see I don't know if you ever saw my book the other one that was like the 20 years I did a 20 well I watched the video that you did where you kind of went through it and you were talking about what was going on with you with each of those photographs yeah so it's it's it's it's really about kind of playing these different roles but it's just instead of you talking like you would be in a movie you're just you got to make the image that picture that one capture image to to it's a performance art it's a performance art but it's such a weird world I know that like Alexander McQueen he was like he was really the Catalyst right he was the guy who gave me the chance you know he gave me the the chance but when you watch his shows or some of these other shows like the designs are are stunning and gorgeous but they're also totally inaccessible it's like who wears this does anybody is there anybody in the world that even wear I mean if you're Lady Gaga I guess or somebody like that but like yeah it's a fantasy and so it's curious like how does that translate into I guess it's just how you feel and how you think about a particular designer or a brand and not so much about directly selling those designs to the person who's going to the department store or the boutique right yeah they're not thinking I don't even understand the business model of the whole thing yeah I me neither to be honest with you but I think it's a really I mean I think it has changed a lot uh since I started like I see a big shift because I think before there was a lot more creativity there was allowed a lot more creativity I think you know McQueen or JN galano you know the shows and stuff like you were like in a world like sure and the photographers being rock stars themselves oh yeah and and it was a I think it was a moment in time where there was so much less about selling but it was much more about the the inspiration and the aspir aspiring you know the aspiration of creating like a fantasy and like a and it was a lot of fun then I have to say at that time because I would have been dead I wouldn't have survived it I would have gone all in I would have been at every after hours party it would have been a disaster you see I was in bed like studying my astrology books like by 10 you know that was me I was like by 10 I was like oh no I have to go I was like I have to start early so I can go to bed early so for me it was a a different thing but um you know but I guess for me I also fell very responsible because I didn't want to one of the The Guiding lights for me I really believe was my parents because I saw how hard they work and I didn't want to disappoint them so I think part of like me being so stay on the line was like I'm not disappointing my parents I don't care if they're not here they are going to know what I'm doing like I remember part of the reason why I got so freaked out about the McQueen show and they sent me out like without a top because I couldn't speak English and they didn't even do a feeding anyway so then I was I was like oh my God if my parents see this they're GNA make me go back home and then I you know what is it like when you go internet but there was no internet in 1997 19 it wasn't so thank God because they didn't even saw that otherwi they would have been like what what are you doing I be like I don't know and you have five siblings right I have five sisters I'm a middle child I have two older sisters and two younger sisters and I'm a twin MH in the middle so we like the the sandwich like the cheese in the sandwich being Brazilian uh you're connected to the Amazon and to climate change issues and you've done a lot in terms of your environmental advocacy and clean water initiatives talk a little bit about how that began and and what that looked like now you know I um I've always been a big um basically like a child of nature I always tell my children when they ask you know what's your religion they say Mom we don't go to church I say you know what you're in church every day I say I say what do I say when people ask what my what my religion is I say love is your religion and nature is your church that's your Cathedral that's the big church that's our Temple you know so you honor your temple you love your temple you CU that's the only reason why we are all alive because this whole ecosystem is making it possible you know to grow our food to give us to provide us with all the things we need to survive so U and that's how I grew up I felt that way and especially having a grandmother that everything was from the earth you know she grew everything she ate and and uh you know the Earth was giving us the herbs that we needed to like when we fell ill and and I grew up in that way so when you grew up in that way and you grew up running around bare feet you know I come from a small village and anytime you want to eat something you grab there was like a tangerine tree or like a orange tree or is a plum tree and you just go and pick up the fruit from the tree we never bought fruits from the supermarket you know you go either you had it in your backyard or your neighbor had it or the other neighbor you know somebody had the fruit he wanted to eat you just go grab it so I think when you leave with that connection to Nature you have a different appreciation it's like so I feel like nature is just like it's it's it's me like I think we are n you know we are that and I think this connection from nature for me is not something it's just something I've always known you know is how I grew up and so for me um taking care of which I love which is nature is natural um so the but the first time I realized there was really problems happening is when I went to actually spend some time uh with the indigenous people in shingu area of the Amazon in the 2004 and that's when the first time I realized you know pesticide what's what pesticides were doing where mining was doing how they were contaminating the rivers and basically all the indigenous tribes they were living and depending on the that water they were getting sick and even though they were living very wholesomely you know with nature and you know by the impact that the big farms and different Mining and all that stuff was having um was really um having a really terrible impact in their in their their livelihoods and and that's when the first time I was like I need to do something about it and that's when I started like I had a flipflop line at the time in Brazil and we gave a percentage you know to that's actually a funny story the the the indigenous people and I was like I wonder what they would do with this with this funds but it was like a group that helped indigenous in Brazil and the funny enough when I did when I turned 40 this was in 2004 so I was like 24 cut to when I'm 40 2020 I was 40 um I wanted to do something for my 40th birthday and I was like oh I want to plant some trees in the in in the Amazon and how we going to do it so we looked around for who can help us do that and we contacted the the people that are working with the indigenous people that we knew in in Brazil and they're like we have the largest seed bank in the Amazon and we started with the money with the whole program that you gave in 2004 that money that was for the sale of the flipflops now years later they had the largest seed bank of you know the indigenous they they they collected the larger seed bank and this is how with that whole group of people we basically planted over 300,000 trees in that area of the Amazon so that was like years later so that's just how funny how life goes but for me because I was so connected to nature and I always wanted to help and my dad always said you know water is the most important thing and of course I saw that with the indigenous people because that's how they were all getting sick because all the the you know residue of Mining and and and pesticides were going into their water in my little village we were having a lot of problems with agriculture as well where there was a lot of runoffs from Roundup and all the stuff that they use in agriculture all the pesticides and stuff and it was getting a lot of people sick so we actually did the AGA limpa program in 200 I think it was 20 the N or I don't remember when we started but it was like a long time ago and I funded it and my dad who's also a sociologist worked with the university and we and we basically regenerated the whole area of the river that was kind of you know getting the water to the city and we were able to clean it it took us like a few years to do it you know it was pretty simple because all we had to do I mean it was not simple my dad is the one who did the work it was simpler for me I just kind of funded it but he was there every day he had to work with I don't know how many farmers you had to take their pie of land and kind of grow the native species Forest you know the native Forest back so then the there's a buffer there was a buffer and then the root systems could could filtrate it before all that stuff would go into the river and then that was the agal limpa project and that was one of the projects we did to clean the water and anyway so there's lots of different things but in overall thing my my thing is you know we got to take care of Mother Earth she takes care of us you know when people say to me oh we're going to save the planet I say you're that's such an ego thing you know as humans we think we're going to save anything the planets is in her own process of evolution this is a you know it's I mean dinosaurs were here before us and you know lur I mean so many different civilizations the planet will be fine that's what I always say I say please don't fool yourself I think we really saving ourselves we need to yeah I say there's no Sav we need re ourselves back yeah this is really about us protecting the resources and and taking care of what we really need for our survival because once we are gone the planet is going to regenerate I mean I've seen this over and over again the planet regenerates itself so quickly you know because it's it's just a very intelligent we need to learn from nature instead of like trying to control nature we need to just like take a humble pill and and learn from the Big Mama we've moved so far away from that and we do live in this dualistic mindset where we think there's you know our environments and then there's nature or there's us and that's outside um but really understanding that you're never out of nature as you as you said um I think it's the first point of trying to really deepen your relationship with the world in which you live we all live and share and I think when it comes to the Amazon like we all hear about deforestation and all the you know clearing that's going on for cattle grazing and the strip mining and all the stuff that you mentioned but it's an abstraction especially for you know people in North America like we know what's going on we know it's bad but I've never visited there like I've never seen it myself and you being Brazilian gives you kind of a deeper appreciation and understanding of the extent of it you know I think it's how people tell the story because I think it's a lot deeper than you know I think people like depending on the industry that wants to benefit from something that tell the story and they say okay this is what we're going to do is about the cing oh yeah it's so crazy a lot of NOS go in there and they say we're going to have an NGO because we're going to like protect Amazon but they're meantime they're the owners of the bigger paper company that comes from the Amazon they are just not you know what I mean so there it's not not all is as it seems no it's it's a very it's a wild wild west there and one of the biggest you know I've been there a few times and also done a lot of um just kind of like talking to people and understanding what happens there and a lot of the you know there's ancient Woods there and a lot of that goes to Europe so like what a lot of the the cattle for example is what they use to kind of occupy the land but what they're really after which is really valuable there is like gold and Min m you know the the rare medals the rare medals yeah the rare medals and the gold and all that stuff that's in there that's what interest this like you know the different um countries let's say they are not brail when they and because it's so corrupt unfortunately you know Brazil is very corrupt the politicians are very corrupt what happens is they sell those rights to those countries and then we have what we have and then the cattle like in the end they just kind of put them there because they have to occupy the land after they REM because they have to enter if you go there after they removed everything because they have to remove the value the value then they then they put all the cows there that's what they do so they remove the ancient wood they they remove the precious metals and and but they have to get there because if you fly over it it mean you're flying for hours over just a Green carpet so for you to have access to that you have to you can't just like clear cut because it grows so what they do to keep the the the forest from growing they just throw because it's very fertile the soil as soon as you cut because imagine that soil is been there like receiving all those back healthy bacteria from the leaves falling super fertile So within like three days you can Grass Grows Right and then in order for the trees not to keep growing because if you just leave abandon that's what's going to happen the birds are going to carry the seeds they're going to drop the seeds they're going to things are going to start growing again and then they won't have access you know so they kind of it's just like a cycle like but what is really after what they're really after it is the big stuff is the is the and and it's not unfortunately you know it's h it's so sad you know is greed mhm in the end of the day is greed and is greed by people that you know they don't have those natural resources where they are and and they understand the situation in Brazil and how corrupt the this the the 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their best interest from a wellness perspective I think the number one thing I feel is like monkey see monkey does right I think you have to be the example you have to leave it um cuz I think whatever you say is one thing and whatever you do you they need to kind they need to whatever you say whatever you do they have to be the same thing right sympatico yeah they have to be sympatico and um and that's what it is and and I think for the kids for my kids were were a lot easier because I was home a lot with them so I was you know taking them to school every day making their breakfast you know just having my Gardens at home growing the food so when the kids would come for play dates at the house you know my kids were grabbing like everything raw cucumbers carrots like green beans they were just grabbing it from the garden and like collecting things and putting in the basket it was like a game for them and it was like oh friends are coming over why are we going to grab for the for to Door picnic outside and then so they grew up in that way you know they they uh so it was easier for me to feed them healthier food and and and and explain to them you know we always compost it we had bees at our house um so you know they they were learning about you know when The Beekeeper would come and they explain you know how much be how much honey can you take and how much money how much honey do you leave for the bees and how does a the how does a queen bee work and all the so they were they're emotionally connected they were emotionally connected they were part of that like I was as a kid so um so for them is really natural and they were also homeschooled for the last three years um during the you know the whole pandemic thing I and we moved from Boston to Tampa so um it was a whole new world for them so I I homeschooled them and now they just went back to school but I have to tell you I see a huge difference especially because my son is 14 now so he wants to kind of push back this is what I'm getting at oh yeah well how old kid well they range from 28 to 16 and each one of there's four and each of them is different um but it's a delicate dance because you know we raised our kids similarly um but they reach a certain age and part of individuation and maturing is taking ownership for your own choices and understanding what you stand for and what you don't and in order to really Define that and hone that you have to go out and kind of push the envelope and try new things otherwise it's just something you're doing because that's the way you were raised and that's what your parents told you as opposed to really owning it for yourself and so so we have learned that you have to have the brains very loose and and let them go out and do what they want to do and control the environment at home but be you know very kind of nonplused if they go and make a choice that you wouldn't make or whatever and just be curious about it and allow them the space to do that and you know you hope they come back and you know do it the way you taught them to um and sometimes they do and sometimes they don't and again every one of them is different in our case but as they get to a certain point and especially you know when they're with peers and friends and they're in social situations those things they have to learn for themselves and you have to allow them to I think it's so interesting so you have to let go a little bit oh let go and let God yeah I tell myself that is like a mantra you know and and and I I I remind myself of like my mom let me leave home she emancipated me and I was leing in Japan at 14 and there was no cell phones like I call you know can you imagine doing that for one of your children right now no and actually you know what it's so funny because I was having a conversation with my son about that he um he was complaining you know I have chores in my house you know kids have to do their chores so set the table wash the dishes you know now I make a point you know I cook at you know they come from school I'm cooking you know they so one has to set the table whoever sets the table the other has to wash the dishes and there is like you have to clean your room you have to do the basic stuff you know my daughter is doing amazingly she loves it and she's like really good and very proud of herself mom look how good I cleaned the dishes like she's really good and she's washing herself she's not putting it in the machine she wants to learn how to really wash it and and and do it right and she's very focused on it my son is like always like why do I have to do this you know so actually we had like a breakthrough this Christmas this this whole holiday season because I said he says to me I'm going to leave home when I'm 18 mom and I don't know if I'm going to go to college you didn't go to college you didn't go to school I'm going to just leave home when I'm 18 and I'm going to do this and I'm going to do that I'm like okay that's great so you're going to leave in your own apartment and who's going to cook for you and who's going to wash your dishes and who's going to clean your clothes who's going to do that and he's like for a second he's like because you're not going to have a chef and like a you know like and he was thinking for a second and I say well this is why when mommy tells you to do those things at home you know is because I want to give you more tools for your tool boox because when you learn how to do those things and they become second nature to you then you don't even have to think about it you become empowered to do it for yourself you don't depend on anybody and that's nothing it's amazing to be able to do that I said you know what made me feel so like strong and capable when I left my home because my mom taught me how to do those things so when I left home and I was leaving by myself at 14 years old I was first at 13 at 14 I moved to Japan but because I was leaving in the mod's apartment I was the only person there who knew how to clean cook iron do absolutely everything in the house because my mom taught me and it was easy for me I didn't think it was a struggle I was happy to do it and I was happy to to do it for the other girls that didn't know how to do it but if you're going to be planning on leaving on your own at 18 who do you think is going to do all those things for you so all I'm telling you is like take advantage that mommy's here for you right now and I'm able to teach you all those things and you can do it at your time I'm not telling you like at this time you have to wash the dishes so let me just help you I'm going to create a list for you and you just have to do them and you can decide if you want to wash clothes once or twice a week you can decide if you want to wash the dishes right after dinner or before you go to bed whatever you want but if you learn how to do those things you're going to see how empowered you're going to feel and the more tools we can put like the more things like the simple things like that that you can learn and that you can equip your tool box to do you're just going to be just that much like capable and and and there's nothing more fulfilling than feeling like you're able to do stuff that you're capable and then he looked at me and he's like okay mom so when we get back home you give me that list and I'm going to do it I'm like I wow I was going to say like he actually he actually receiv that I I think I have a breakthrough I think I got a breakthrough with the hormones are raging like whatever mom you know storming off like you can get you can get that reaction too that was good good job don't you think that was a good thing but but I used but you see it was a moment that I used what he said because when he thought to himself that's true how am I going to do all that stuff I said you don't want to live in like a you know a messy stinky place that is not clean like you know you want to like have you know so you need to know how to do this stuff and I think all I I see like all the things that happen in life like that like different tools we acquire you know even the job that I you know my job like all the tools that I've acquired in this job all the things that I've learned to do um that I don't know when I'm going to use I use them for my job but maybe I'm going to they going to be useful like in 20 years from my life sure but you came from very different circumstances it's the it's the Peril of success right like you and and the kid's dad like worked very hard to achieve all of these things in life and now they're reared in you know like an insane degree of privilege and it becomes more difficult to instill that kind of work ethic into somebody who you know grows up that way I think you're correct I think it becomes a lot more difficult but I think goes back to the discipline and it goes back to priorities and I think it for me it becomes about what kind of you know I I feel like I'm their Guardian because we don't possess our children right I mean we just come here they come through us but they're as much as our teachers as we are they're teachers and we're constantly learning and teaching you know in every relationship in our life and and I feel that we get this moment in time which is very short in a way that we get to influence our children because then they go I mean look at my parents they had 14 years to influence me then I was out in the world and I never went back and I keep remembering like what are all the things that if they wouldn't have taught me those things where would I be today and I'm so grateful for them for for those lessons and I feel like yes I grew up in very different circumstances than my kids and it is a bit more challenging to have them you know make their bed and wash the dishes and clean their you know when I have a person that can do it too but I make a point of me doing it so then they learn that oh Mommy's doing the dinner Mommy is making the breakfast mommy is so they're like weel you have to model and I feel like it's a different kind of modeling is it is the type of modeling that I prefer it's it's the type of modeling that I find to be the important type of modeling because that's the you know I mean what's Mo the most important thing you're going to do in your life I feel like raising children is is by far the most challenging thing I've ever done and the most uh fulfilling at the same time and you know but I feel that if if I if I don't do that if I don't equip my children to be good capable assets you know for themselves in their lives if they're not going to be then I fail I I feel yeah you haven't done your job then I haven't done my job I mean I feel that's my job I mean that's a job I do to kind of make a living so I can like you know put foot on the table and have but my real job as as I think as a as a mom and I chose to be a mom so I have to show up for my kids and I feel like this things that my you know I think is really what shaped me and what made me who I am today was definitely the upbringing that I had and and what my parents how they guided me and I feel like that's really important so I make that a priority in my life to make sure that my kids are going to have even though they don't have those same needs you know to do those things because my mom didn't have a a person she could pay to come clean the house we had to you clean the bathroom you clean the you know it was like a list all of us have to share between us who's going to do what and we grew up that way and it was kind of fun because you know I was always I always love the cleaning part you know I love organizing and cleaning I feel like a clean house is a clean mind is like a what's out is in you know if like if everything is organized outside I can think um and I tell my kids that and I feel that um if I can really get them to do those simple things in life you know and and learn those things and teach them how to be self-sufficient and capable human beings I feel like I've done my job and then I can rest and then whatever else they do the choices they make if they choose to eat the food that I fed them when they were little if now they want to go eat you know whatever or I mean it's going to be what they're going to do you know they're going to choose their friends hopefully they they choose wisely because in the end of the day they're going to be the one dealing with the consequences of their actions and I always tell them like listen you know you're going to go out there and you're going to make the Cho whatever choice you make there are going to be consequences you're dealing with those consequences me this is your life and sometimes they need to they need to make those mistakes and face those consequences like we had I mean how many mistakes that I mean I have and those those experiences are formative like I'm sure if you look in the rear view mirror and think about the panic attacks that you were having on airplanes and your inability to get into an elevator and you know this desire to jump off your balcony on some level you wouldn't wish that experience on anybody but you probably wouldn't wna change your experience either because it's set in motion this whole sensibility and way of being that you now have and I think with kids they regardless of whether they hear you in the moment or whether they go out into the world and make a bunch of mistakes like they come back yeah and whatever you taught them it's in there and at some point when they're ready or whatever like they return to it and you know and and I think to to trust that it's very important and I also feel like because if you try to overly control it you're going to drive them away absolutely and and you know I think for me I keep going back to me as a kid and the trust my parents had in me to let me go and I wouldn't be who I am today if it wasn't for them trusting in me and for all the mistakes that I've made and then had to come the other side and figure out for myself so I think it's important to give our children the Dignity of Their Own process you know because we had a dignity you know we have to go through our own process to become who we are and I think as long as they know that we are there and what what is our values you know is like those things that are important what is what is that we stand for what's important for us you know as as as as a as a value as a core value as as as a being a good human being and a good person and if you thought that your children and and they and they got it in the end of the day they're going to go out there in the world and they're going to have to make their mistakes and I I think the best thing you can do for them it's is just be there for them whenever they they come back and if they want your help you know and I think it's it's hard because you want to protect them like you can put Bobble wrap on them so like nothing will touch them and they will be safe but in the end of the day that's unrealistic and it's like it doesn't work anyway you know what I like this idea you know there's a metaphor of the butterfly imagine the caterpillar as she's transforming into becoming the butterfly she's you know eating eating all the you know until she finally starts spinning into a cocoon and and then she has to like go through that whole stous process if you ever seen like you know they turn into GP yeah but they're like but it's exactly it's just and it's really kind of like hard to like when they're coming out it's like really awkward and it looks like they're very strenuous and very difficult so if you go in there and you try to help them come out you're going to them you're going to the butterfly and she won't be able to have the strength she needs struggle is the struggle is what crucial to the the growth and you have to give them the Dignity of their own process you have to be and I and I keep reminding myself I cannot take away that opportunity for them because my parents gave me the opportunity for me to go through my own challenges and I grew and and I want my kids to have that same opportunity because whoever they're going to become is going to be based on what their choice is and hopefully I gave them enough good examples and and and good um values where they would make the choices that is right for them you know what is it that you want people to understand or take away from the new book and and how you are modeling this lifestyle um whether it's dietary changes Lifestyle Changes uh movement practices how can somebody who is interested in kind of leveling up across the board begin the process of of making those changes in their life you know it's funny you know because when I decided to do a cookbook I'm the farthest thing there is from a chef let me tell you something I I am not a chef let me just like let's be honest you've got a private Chef in home that person is taking care of everything not anymore I used to you don't anymore no I don't I don't it's no the last two years I don't you're cooking your own meals yes I'm cooking my own meals yeah I I grew up there way and I want like I told you like my priority is showing my kids what I believe it's important for them and and and I can't I can't say oh this is important and then I have and I'm not doing it you know what I mean so it has to be cohesive right and and I think that for me um really being like living what I believe is very important and I was showing my kids that this is important to me like the only way I'm going to show them that is by doing that so yes I had chefs and this is how I learn how to cook a lot of the things a lot of the recipes in the book are like inspired by the things that I created with the chefs that I throughout the years I had the opportunity to you know to really work with Incredible people incredible Chef people that love food as much as I do because I love food um but was really an idea for me to look I can say go and meditate go and exercise you know I believe meditation I believe rest I believe um exercise I believe nutrition all of those things are extremely important for you to be able to take kind of ownership of your health and really take care of yourself and have and work on just having a more clear mind and just feeling more connected to yourself I think all of those things are different aspects of it but the reason about the cookbook is quite frankly I was seeing kids were coming to our house and in play dates and and moms will come and be like how did you get my kid to eat broccoli or roasted vegetables or and it was like so simple and I was like oh maybe we can share how to make some simple recipes that are super easy you can make it like in 10 minutes and you know moms some you know you just sometimes feel overwhelmed and I know because life is busy there's so so much going on so I was like how can I help in this way and also I feel like food is a perfect time for you to practice being present and mindful because you can eat like on a rush and not being present and the food have a one effect in your body or you can do something which is what I talk about in the book is like every time I look at my food not only the act of preparing your food there so much loves and you're touching the food and you're connecting with your food that's one thing but even if you're not the one cooking your food just to take a moment to bless your food to acknowledge that that is something that is alive that you're taking it and you're that's also your source of life you know so it's kind of like connecting to the food in that way I think it it does something because everything is energy so you're having a transfer of energy with something and with the intention that you're eating it has a different I I feel huge you know when I start doing that does make a difference how he has a different just being present and being connected to what you're doing having gratitude for that moment and you get to do that three times a day you know I mean now I have a juice once a day but I still blast my juice but it's just kind of like it's just this book what I would like to to to for people to take is like it can be really simple it doesn't have to be complicated to to eat healthy and really like if you have plans you know my mom taught me you know since I was a kid like no food waste so how can we organize our meals so can there's a big thing about like reducing waste yeah there for me that's huge and also like me planning like if you're going to buy because or you know food sourcing that's huge it's not about having something with a lot of condiments and a lot of stuff it's just like keep it simple but buying really great quality products like if you can do that and then instead of like because a lot of people are like oh and then you buy organic and then you throw it out because it's like you know it spoils much faster and I'm like yeah but if you have a meal planning and I and I teach that I kind of give some suggestions in the book like my mom did that I grew up like that because she didn't have time you know she was working all the time so she had like in the fridge like what we going to have for the whole week so she would go to the groceries and she would buy and then the things were allowed to the next day so you would always know what we were eating and things that wouldn't be eaten could be easily transferred for the next day and be made into the next organiz so that nothing spoils and you're so nothing spoils and you never had food waste because you're always taking it from one day to the next so is never wasting you always	the choices that you're making are really either supporting you or not straight from the pages of Victoria Secret please welcome jaelle bunin gazelle bunin gazelle has walked in nearly 500 fashion shows and great the covers of more than 1,200 different magazines on paper like you're perhaps highly unrelatable you know what it is it's a character that's the job I do to kind of make a living so I can like you know put foot on the table raising children is is by far the most challenging thing I've ever done it's a different kind of modeling is the type of modeling that I prefer food is a perfect time for you to practice being present and mindful because it can be really simple it doesn't have to be complicated to eat healthy nature is just like it's me instead of like trying to control nature we need to just like take a humble pill and and learn from the Big Mama [Music] today's episode is brought to you by the awesome organizations that make this show [Music] possible so nice to meet you nice to meet you too so excited to have you here today yes when this opportunity presented itself I was like of course I want to talk to Jazelle and then I had my own like sort of mini panic attack we're going to get into panic attacks I'm like what could I possibly talk to this person about the alltime great super model	8	6	4	the choices that you're making are really either supporting you or not straight from the pages of Victoria Secret please welcome jaelle bunin gazelle bunin gazelle has walked in nearly 500 fashion shows and great the covers of more than 1,200 different magazines on paper like you're perhaps highly unrelatable you know what it is it's a character that's the job I do to kind of make a living so I can like you know put foot on the table raising children is is by far the most challenging thing I've ever done it's a different kind of modeling is the type of modeling that I prefer	so nice to meet you nice to meet you too so excited to have you here today yes when this opportunity presented itself I was like of course I want to talk to Jazelle and then I had my own like sort of mini panic attack we're going to get into panic attacks I'm like what could I possibly talk to this person about the alltime great super model	2,4,8	8,6,5	2	4	8	8	6	5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjK5ahIgsHA	4,193	rjK5ahIgsHA	2024-03-25 00:00:00	the choices that you're making are really either supporting you or not straight from the pages of Victoria Secret please welcome jaelle bunin gazelle bunin gazelle has walked in nearly 500 fashion shows and great the covers of more than 1,200 different magazines on paper like you're perhaps highly unrelatable you know what it is it's a character that's the job I do to kind of make a living so I can like you know put foot on the table raising children is is by far the most challenging thing I've ever done it's a different kind of modeling is the type of modeling that I prefer food is a perfect time for you to practice being present and mindful because it can be really simple it doesn't have to be complicated to eat healthy nature is just like it's me instead of like trying to control nature we need to just like take a humble pill and and learn from the Big Mama [Music] today's episode is brought to you by the awesome organizations that make this show [Music] possible so nice to meet you nice to meet you too so excited to have you here today yes when this opportunity presented itself I was like of course I want to talk to Jazelle and then I had my own like sort of mini panic attack we're going to get into panic attacks I'm like what could I possibly talk to this person about the alltime great super model of all time everybody knows this on paper like you're perhaps highly unrelatable but then the more you dig into your story and the more I kind of learned about your Arc and your past and what brought you to this place there's so much that's deeply relatable and your kind of transformation story is remarkably similar to mine although you did yours at like 23 I was 40 um but there's so much in there so I thought it would be cool to kind of um talk a little bit about what it was like what happened and how you made these changes in your life because I think you're in this interesting new season right now where despite the fact that you've been this Wellness Advocate and wellness Warrior for a long time my sense is that there's a there's a more full Embrace of of that now with kind of how you see yourself and what's important to you a well thank you for the introduction you know the funny thing is I you know people's you know what I did for a living is something that kind of just happened to me at 14 years old you know it was it was like hey do you want to be a model and I thought oh I can help my family you know I can do make a living and and help you know I have five sisters and and all that so modeling to me is something that is um an opportunity that came along like I think in life you have these opportunities that either you take that train and then see where it goes you know and I never even believed that this was going to take me and I was going to be doing this for almost 30 years you know it's it's one of those things that I was like oh I'll start doing this job and you know send money home and help my sisters go through school and do all that and um and maybe in five years you know I'll get a house because I didn't even go to school you know I I I was emancipated at 14 yeah you were in Tokyo at 14 I was living in Japan without speaking English and J or Japanese and that's when I when I start learning the language of of of energy you know what I mean because you don't have to understand the language you just have to feel you know something there's a lot more that has been said without words you know sure so I start learning about that um but I think that I went through this journey of modeling which was something I thought was going to last five years and I was just going to help my family out for a little bit and it just kept going you know it just kept happening you know I I didn't even think you can have longevity in this career because it's not what I what I saw really around me happening um but you know I kept it kept working out so I kept doing it and it was kind of a Mindless thing you know when you got in the hamster wheel and I think we do that sometimes in life and you're so young you don't know and you Liv the fast life and all of that so in my early 20s I um developed you know anxiety and panic attacks and all that because you know when you drink a bottle of wine and that because you like I used to be a smoker so I smoke I can't even imagine I used to smoke it feels like a whole different life you know but um it was the late 90s and there was a lot of um drugs and fashion and all that so I thought I was saying just because I was like having some wine and smoking cigarettes everybody was doing way worse things than yeah I'm sure you've seen a lot I've seen a lot yeah that's a whole other show about that that's a whole other story but yeah so um you know so that was the beginning for me to start reconnecting with myself because I think when I was 14 and I got that train my only focus was like how can I be the best that I can do on this and and and that was my focus and and I didn't meure any sacrifice he was like if I had to work 360 days a year and I felt like I couldn't say no because people were giving me a chance and then I was like in this really overdrive uh and burn down my adrenals I found out later when I found this amazing natural Doctor Who told me like listen you don't have any more adrenal they're shut down because you burn them basically I'm like but I'm only 22 you know so um basically I had to change the habits that I you know smoking a pack of cigarettes drinking alcohol every day to myself down coffee all day to keep myself up and also going from you know one time zone to the next I was three days in Paris two days in London one day in New York going back to you know my life was in a living in a suitcase and of course your nervous system is going to freak out you know and the way I was eating it was very you know anything that was in front of me I was just like not mindful about anything you know I was just kind of um like a Workhorse and when that happen to me is when I you know I come from a family that is very my my grandmother had a tea for everything so we never had we were not the kind of you know you get sick let me see this herbal remedy that we you know so yeah you grew up in kind of a small village right in Brazil your grandmother was cultivating herbs and she was the person that everyone would go to for their remedy so you have this sort of background and connection you know with the Earth exactly that you know is kind of lingering in the back of your mind when you're just you know hammering nails and and you know drinking wine and living that life but you're young it's like that's kind of what your 20s are for kind of and you're you're on this like Jet Plane I mean figuratively and literally like your career's taking off on top of that a people pleasing tendency where you feel like you have to say yes to everything and you're just go go go go go yeah and and I think but that was a big wakeup call for me because I think sometimes you know you have to reach rock bottom and when I had that those anxiety and they start becoming like almost CRI because I couldn't get on planes he was just you know I was going to all these doctors and they were like you have to take this stuff and I was just afraid of taking anything because I've never taken anything you know I was a there was a t for for this there you know my grandmother wasn't there so finally you know I wasn't going to take any medication because just the idea of taking something I was like I was normal before how can I go back being what I was you know like I I I didn't have these issues so what's happening long story short I found this doctor I had to replace my habits it was that simple I had to replace these habits that had created the reality I was living at that moment which was you know um really killing me in in so many ways you know killing my spirit killing my and and I replace it with good habits so now instead of smoking cigarettes and having a mocha frappuccino in the morning I'll would go out and do breath work and go out for a run and you know I replace in one day I gave up everything because he he looked at me he said jelle he called me Adrenalina he says do you want to live and I said I do he's like so we going to CH change my diet and that's for the first time in my life that I realized that I I was really like the one who got myself there and I was the only person who could get myself out by the choices that I was making so I had to take full responsibility for what I had created but it was in my power only in my power to change that there were no doctors nobody who was going to save me I had to change um you know the choices I was making and I and I did that and it was incredible because after over a year and a half like really struggling with anxiety and panic attacks and all that within 3 months I was like I never had another incident and it was you know and and once you start meditating I mean at that point this was 20 years ago right it wasn't like people were talking about meditation and yoga any other that um it was just um you know when you sit in silence and you and you reflect which is what we don't really give ourselves time to do because the world is so fastpaced and everything is catching your attention is trying to throw you off your Center you know everything is so busy it's like an overload of information to have that space to go inside and reflect and look and really take a step back I think that was the biggest blessing of my life so really I think what could have killed me is what gave me a whole new life and it was amazing because since then like everything changed like I realized that food is my medicine I realized that I am the director of my own movie that I'm creating my reality based on the choices that I'm making but what I'm choosing to not the people I'm choosing to have around in my life but what type of energy what kind of thoughts I allow to what am I feeding you know what kind of thoughts am I so all of that so that became like a big um changing of seasons for me in my early 20s what were those first couple weeks like if you went completely cold turkey on all of these bad habits I think it was like a drug addict I never was a I guess I was a drug etic only legal drugs because I guess alcohol is a drug and so is cigarettes nicotine and all that and caffeine and all that but they're like socially accepted but I tell you that I had the worst migraine I mean I felt like the I mean maybe that's what a person who's going like you have gone to to rehab right so I'm I don't know what you felt I would love to hear but I for me it was like right I mean I don't know about that sub it's the only way I know how to do it though I don't understand how people kind of phase out of stuff like you have to for me you have to draw the line and step over it and it's going to suck and you're going to be uncomfortable for a while while um but you know that on the other side of that lies all of this opportunity and possibility um but uh and that's what happened to me I think there was that because what I knew I knew that what I was and what if you do what you've always done you're going to get what you've always gotten is that simple and what I realized at that moment that what I what I created for myself was not what I wanted I needed to a drastic change and then he was like draw the line stopped everything in one day and the migraines and all of that like the consequences of what I had done I had to deal with them you know it took me like two weeks I think I was like having the worst migraines just because I didn't know if it was the nicotine the caffeine the alcohol I don't know what it was but it was all of it together and um but then it was amazing because from that experience I I became so much stronger and I and there are lots of different things that happen in my life after that I feel like every time we get tested it's like the Super Mario you know like the little video game when you go to do the big boss like you go through all the phases and you go to level one the big boss is like one it's okay to defeat that one but then the second one is like a tough for big boss and then the third one is you know it's like it's life I feel like that's what life is you get like the new tools so you get equipped and then you go to the next challenge that is a bigger one and then is a bigger one I feel like that's why we're here you know to keep seeing how we can expand how much more we can to grow to evolve to expand to see how strong and how creative and how you know how can how much we can experience of all this wonder how did you how did you plug that into the fast-paced life of of your modeling career because it's one thing if you're living a more kind of grounded atome lifestyle where you can control your food and your environment a little bit better but when you're flying all over the world and you're on these sets and there's craft service and it's junk food like you have to be way ahead of the curve to prepare everything to have everything kind of organized for yourself because how do you you if you're in just hotels all over the place and you arrive at midnight like how are you getting your you know like how did so how did you manage all of that you have to be very discipline I think you know when I I did this book called lessons and um and it was like everything starts to discipline that was like my first chapter and that's what I believe you have to decide you have and then you have to have the discipline to follow through so once you realize that these choices that you are making are having a positive impact in your life you want to continue doing them you know what I mean you don't want to fall back and just something that it didn't feel good that's your past like you don't want to go back there again so you're going to stick to the plan like this is what's working and this is what made me feel good again so I'm going to stick to this and of course it's not 100% you have to be compassionate with yourself too and say you I'll be like you know life is hard as it is you need to bit yourself in the head sometimes if you go and you oh you know I had like um I was exhausted I had like a banana bread or something or I had you know but I think you realize that the choices that you're making are are really either supporting you or not you know supporting you living the life that making you feel good and living the life that you want and is taking to the direction where you want to go or not and then it's just kind of an easier choice to make right and then I feel like when I go to the jobs you know I got to the point in my life where people know how I eat and you know I can tell people like listen this is what I want I want you got extensive riter yeah I kind of you know because I was already working for so long so I I have you know I got to the I guess really the privilege to be able to to kind of say like this is the kind of things that I would like to eat so please at the job you know if you're working 10 12 hours in a studio can we have these things available you know what I mean so then it was easier to keep the food healthy you know um because I think that's so important and then just to say I feel like and then saying no to those things you know like coffee or alcohol or things that I was just so used to because I was still in that same environment the environment hadn't changed I had changed but all of that was around me still but then it was just a choice of saying you know I feel great and I haven't drank alcohol in over two years now too this is something you know I even when I went back drinking after it was very moderate you know I was still like like I would drink socially sometimes you know peer pressure sometimes like oh come on have a drink you know and then you like feel like especially in my world I mean everyone pretty much is like socially having a drink so I would be like okay I'll have a drink but then he got to a point that I was like and that was like 20 years later because it just happened over two years ago I was like I don't want to drink like I don't care what anyone thinks and I don't care if they have Fe peer pressure I'm going to have my Min tea my cam tea and if they want to drink I'm not making anyone feel bad about drinking they can do whatever they want this is their Temple you know this is my temple I get to choose and they shouldn't make me feel bad that I don't want to you know so um then I kind of stood up for myself I think that happens after your 40s like you care less about what other people think and um wait till you're 50 oh my God I can't wait for that I'm gonna like he's he's gonna be amazing but I think the thing you mentioned you mentioned like being directed and and and being kind of dedicated to your path and and and I feel like that's the underappreciated aspect of of understanding you and your career a lot of people arrive in New York City every single day with a similar dream or ambition that you had when you were a young person and you arrived there and a lot of those people are very beautiful you're beautiful but that doesn't tell the story of how you translated like an opportunity into the career that you had and I think between the lines there is an intense work ethic and a very intentional approach to what you were doing like how did you apply those skills like what is the differentiator between you and the career that you've enjoyed versus you know the other beautiful people who aren't enjoying the same kind of career you can't and you're not allowed to say luck or you're you know no I don't believe I don't believe in luck I don't believe in luck I believe in hard work and but I believe in um I mean I think discipline but I also believe that I always treated everyone the way I like to be treated and I've always was appreciative I have this immense sense of gratitude for just being there so even though you know people were like oh you know you you know when I was 19 I was like I want the model of you know the model of the year and everybody's like how does it feel to be it didn't really it doesn't matter to me because quite frankly I never saw myself as a motel it's just not something I didn't drink the Kool-Aid I didn't believe because I was a model or because I I became successful in this job like I was better than anybody I just and I didn't believe that I believe that I just got to learn that craft really well and I understood what the job entail and like I learned how to do the job really well but by no means is what defined me it's just something I did it's not it's not who I am I don't know if you know it's like I go there I had this opportunity at you know 13 14 years old when I finally left home and and and and St pursued this career that really I thought it was just really I did it for the money I did it because I was like what else am I going to do at 14 years old that I can help my family you know I don't have any other jobs that are offering me an opportunity so I'll take this one so for me it was really like a job so I never like it didn't kind of Define me I kind of did it my way like I never became like you know it was like oh it needs to be glamorous I was never glamorous I'm a jeans and t-shirt type of girl like I if I needed to go to parties or hang out with this type of people I never did any of that like I went there I did my job I did the best that I could I never was late in my life for my jobs like never showed up like late I was there before everyone I was there 100% you know I I I just wanted to make sure that if people were booking me and they they were trusting in me that I was going to show up and deliver you know and I think that's kind of what it was I did it my way you know and it didn't broke me kind of Cu I saw you know people in this business you know you can lose yourself because if you drink the Kool-Aid if you start thinking you know like you lose yourself in it I never lost myself it was just a job and it's still just a job I can't even believe I'm still doing it sometimes I go in and I do it you it's not it's not what I do full- time anymore but it's just one of those things that you know I got to do this I got to make a career out of it and got to make a great living and help my family and I I have wonderful you know I got to travel the world and learn different languages and and and all of that and that's how I see it I don't see it as a you know I don't see myself you're not defined by it you're not you're not caught up in in the kind of dark underbelly of that very strange world this whole world is like almost like a parallel reality for me you know what I mean if something is like a switch on button I go there I do my job I take my picture I turn it off I go home and I have the same friends I have my my family I'm very close with my family but I think you're very good at seeing opportunities when they arise and you tell a little story in in in the new book about being 14 and on route to Tokyo and your parents gave you your dad gave you a little bit of money that was intended for getting a cab from that's the first day arve in s Paulo and instead of using that money oh it was you were super young right so you had a little bit of money to take a tab and you had the presence of mind to say this money would be better spent buying some clothes so I can do better in my auditions or whatnot um which isn't like that's not normal like that's somebody who's thinking ahead who's planning long term who's understanding that they have an opportunity in front of them and trying to figure out how to make the most out of it with limited resources and I think that speaks to or says a lot about your sensibility or your perspective as a business person yeah I mean it's so interesting to see it that way I mean I for me at that moment in time you know I I I just felt like I did something else than that you know that was one of the things and now that you're saying that I actually did that throughout because I bought my first apartment when I was 19 years old and when everybody was buying you know designer bags all the models and you know like remember I didn't know I was going to last in this business I thought like I didn't go to school I didn't go to high school I didn't you know I I left I I went to work and whenever I go I go back I thought I was going to be a farmer or something because I just always love the land and but I I didn't think like you know like where am I going to go from here so I have to make sure that I have at least a place to live I'm a cancer so I want to have like a stable home and when I was 19 you know people start flying me first class because I was like the model of the year right saw all the clients now are paying me first class I was exchanging those tickets for Coach classes because I was every two three days in a different country and instead of paying um my you know a rent in an apartment I pay I put down a down payment for an apartment and then I was paying my mortgage instead of paying rent and you're 19 and I was 19 so I I own my first apartment as 19 years old it was like a in in New York City it was like facing a wall of another building mind you he was like a very apartment you know that does require some maturity and some long-term thinking well well because I just thought to myself like you know I don't know how long I'm going to stay here you know I i' I at least I have to have a place to live if I like I'm not going to live empty-handed you know what I mean like what do I care about a bag or like what is that going to give me it's not going to be a roof over my head I need to make sure that I have that I can spend in the right places but I think that sense came from my mother because we grew up you know my mother was a cashier in the bank my father had like lots of different jobs like he had a real estate job but he was you know my mom they literally we we were like really simple people and grew up in two bedrooms with six girls and and and money was all always tight so I learned how to is the same thing in the book is like how do you prepare how do you not waste food I mean everything is like I think in my life I was kind of like raised that way you know what I mean kind of plan ahead like for tomorrow so you make sure that you have like food for everyone like like we're going to reuse the meat we cook on the barbecue and we're going to put it in the rice we're going to have carera so we're going to have an abundant meal because we have the rest of the you know what I mean it's kind of like that it's like you put money in the bank so when you retire you have something to to live off when you can no longer work the same thing I feel about food like you eat the right food so when you're older you you're able to have the energy and your body is functioning because you made the right choices so for me it's the same thing you know it's kind of making like just being kind of what is necessary here like do I really need this what do I need more do I need a roof over my head or do I need this this bags and this stuff do I need to take a taxi when I arrive to the model apartment when I'm 14 even though I never been to the city or can I take the subway and save the money so I can get the clothes for the casting and maybe I can get a job it's like it's kind of thinking like with the resources that I have right now what is the smartest how is the smartest way to use them I guess if you're like me never without a water bottle let's get it right people allow me to rock your world with my new favorite toy that's actually not a toy at all it's a non-negotiable essential camel backs Podium steel 100% % leak proof water bottle emphasis on leak proof for all 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it's you know what it is it's a character I always call call it her because I think being a MTO what I understood as being a motto is to play a character in a silent movie you know you get to experience all these different charact all these different aspects of of of being a woman let's say because one designer wants you to be more androgynous you know one designer was you know I remember diding a Balin Saga campaign I was like they made me a boy I was like literally like a week I was like a man a boy and in one I was like the sexy Versace campaign like you know like with big hair and like you know pushup bra you know so it was kind of like I got to play from the the androgynous girl to the very sexy to the tomb boy like I got to you know I mean you should see I don't know if you ever saw my book the other one that was like the 20 years I did a 20 well I watched the video that you did where you kind of went through it and you were talking about what was going on with you with each of those photographs yeah so it's it's it's it's really about kind of playing these different roles but it's just instead of you talking like you would be in a movie you're just you got to make the image that picture that one capture image to to it's a performance art it's a performance art but it's such a weird world I know that like Alexander McQueen he was like he was really the Catalyst right he was the guy who gave me the chance you know he gave me the the chance but when you watch his shows or some of these other shows like the designs are are stunning and gorgeous but they're also totally inaccessible it's like who wears this does anybody is there anybody in the world that even wear I mean if you're Lady Gaga I guess or somebody like that but like yeah it's a fantasy and so it's curious like how does that translate into I guess it's just how you feel and how you think about a particular designer or a brand and not so much about directly selling those designs to the person who's going to the department store or the boutique right yeah they're not thinking I don't even understand the business model of the whole thing yeah I me neither to be honest with you but I think it's a really I mean I think it has changed a lot uh since I started like I see a big shift because I think before there was a lot more creativity there was allowed a lot more creativity I think you know McQueen or JN galano you know the shows and stuff like you were like in a world like sure and the photographers being rock stars themselves oh yeah and and it was a I think it was a moment in time where there was so much less about selling but it was much more about the the inspiration and the aspir aspiring you know the aspiration of creating like a fantasy and like a and it was a lot of fun then I have to say at that time because I would have been dead I wouldn't have survived it I would have gone all in I would have been at every after hours party it would have been a disaster you see I was in bed like studying my astrology books like by 10 you know that was me I was like by 10 I was like oh no I have to go I was like I have to start early so I can go to bed early so for me it was a a different thing but um you know but I guess for me I also fell very responsible because I didn't want to one of the The Guiding lights for me I really believe was my parents because I saw how hard they work and I didn't want to disappoint them so I think part of like me being so stay on the line was like I'm not disappointing my parents I don't care if they're not here they are going to know what I'm doing like I remember part of the reason why I got so freaked out about the McQueen show and they sent me out like without a top because I couldn't speak English and they didn't even do a feeding anyway so then I was I was like oh my God if my parents see this they're GNA make me go back home and then I you know what is it like when you go internet but there was no internet in 1997 19 it wasn't so thank God because they didn't even saw that otherwi they would have been like what what are you doing I be like I don't know and you have five siblings right I have five sisters I'm a middle child I have two older sisters and two younger sisters and I'm a twin MH in the middle so we like the the sandwich like the cheese in the sandwich being Brazilian uh you're connected to the Amazon and to climate change issues and you've done a lot in terms of your environmental advocacy and clean water initiatives talk a little bit about how that began and and what that looked like now you know I um I've always been a big um basically like a child of nature I always tell my children when they ask you know what's your religion they say Mom we don't go to church I say you know what you're in church every day I say I say what do I say when people ask what my what my religion is I say love is your religion and nature is your church that's your Cathedral that's the big church that's our Temple you know so you honor your temple you love your temple you CU that's the only reason why we are all alive because this whole ecosystem is making it possible you know to grow our food to give us to provide us with all the things we need to survive so U and that's how I grew up I felt that way and especially having a grandmother that everything was from the earth you know she grew everything she ate and and uh you know the Earth was giving us the herbs that we needed to like when we fell ill and and I grew up in that way so when you grew up in that way and you grew up running around bare feet you know I come from a small village and anytime you want to eat something you grab there was like a tangerine tree or like a orange tree or is a plum tree and you just go and pick up the fruit from the tree we never bought fruits from the supermarket you know you go either you had it in your backyard or your neighbor had it or the other neighbor you know somebody had the fruit he wanted to eat you just go grab it so I think when you leave with that connection to Nature you have a different appreciation it's like so I feel like nature is just like it's it's it's me like I think we are n you know we are that and I think this connection from nature for me is not something it's just something I've always known you know is how I grew up and so for me um taking care of which I love which is nature is natural um so the but the first time I realized there was really problems happening is when I went to actually spend some time uh with the indigenous people in shingu area of the Amazon in the 2004 and that's when the first time I realized you know pesticide what's what pesticides were doing where mining was doing how they were contaminating the rivers and basically all the indigenous tribes they were living and depending on the that water they were getting sick and even though they were living very wholesomely you know with nature and you know by the impact that the big farms and different Mining and all that stuff was having um was really um having a really terrible impact in their in their their livelihoods and and that's when the first time I was like I need to do something about it and that's when I started like I had a flipflop line at the time in Brazil and we gave a percentage you know to that's actually a funny story the the the indigenous people and I was like I wonder what they would do with this with this funds but it was like a group that helped indigenous in Brazil and the funny enough when I did when I turned 40 this was in 2004 so I was like 24 cut to when I'm 40 2020 I was 40 um I wanted to do something for my 40th birthday and I was like oh I want to plant some trees in the in in the Amazon and how we going to do it so we looked around for who can help us do that and we contacted the the people that are working with the indigenous people that we knew in in Brazil and they're like we have the largest seed bank in the Amazon and we started with the money with the whole program that you gave in 2004 that money that was for the sale of the flipflops now years later they had the largest seed bank of you know the indigenous they they they collected the larger seed bank and this is how with that whole group of people we basically planted over 300,000 trees in that area of the Amazon so that was like years later so that's just how funny how life goes but for me because I was so connected to nature and I always wanted to help and my dad always said you know water is the most important thing and of course I saw that with the indigenous people because that's how they were all getting sick because all the the you know residue of Mining and and and pesticides were going into their water in my little village we were having a lot of problems with agriculture as well where there was a lot of runoffs from Roundup and all the stuff that they use in agriculture all the pesticides and stuff and it was getting a lot of people sick so we actually did the AGA limpa program in 200 I think it was 20 the N or I don't remember when we started but it was like a long time ago and I funded it and my dad who's also a sociologist worked with the university and we and we basically regenerated the whole area of the river that was kind of you know getting the water to the city and we were able to clean it it took us like a few years to do it you know it was pretty simple because all we had to do I mean it was not simple my dad is the one who did the work it was simpler for me I just kind of funded it but he was there every day he had to work with I don't know how many farmers you had to take their pie of land and kind of grow the native species Forest you know the native Forest back so then the there's a buffer there was a buffer and then the root systems could could filtrate it before all that stuff would go into the river and then that was the agal limpa project and that was one of the projects we did to clean the water and anyway so there's lots of different things but in overall thing my my thing is you know we got to take care of Mother Earth she takes care of us you know when people say to me oh we're going to save the planet I say you're that's such an ego thing you know as humans we think we're going to save anything the planets is in her own process of evolution this is a you know it's I mean dinosaurs were here before us and you know lur I mean so many different civilizations the planet will be fine that's what I always say I say please don't fool yourself I think we really saving ourselves we need to yeah I say there's no Sav we need re ourselves back yeah this is really about us protecting the resources and and taking care of what we really need for our survival because once we are gone the planet is going to regenerate I mean I've seen this over and over again the planet regenerates itself so quickly you know because it's it's just a very intelligent we need to learn from nature instead of like trying to control nature we need to just like take a humble pill and and learn from the Big Mama we've moved so far away from that and we do live in this dualistic mindset where we think there's you know our environments and then there's nature or there's us and that's outside um but really understanding that you're never out of nature as you as you said um I think it's the first point of trying to really deepen your relationship with the world in which you live we all live and share and I think when it comes to the Amazon like we all hear about deforestation and all the you know clearing that's going on for cattle grazing and the strip mining and all the stuff that you mentioned but it's an abstraction especially for you know people in North America like we know what's going on we know it's bad but I've never visited there like I've never seen it myself and you being Brazilian gives you kind of a deeper appreciation and understanding of the extent of it you know I think it's how people tell the story because I think it's a lot deeper than you know I think people like depending on the industry that wants to benefit from something that tell the story and they say okay this is what we're going to do is about the cing oh yeah it's so crazy a lot of NOS go in there and they say we're going to have an NGO because we're going to like protect Amazon but they're meantime they're the owners of the bigger paper company that comes from the Amazon they are just not you know what I mean so there it's not not all is as it seems no it's it's a very it's a wild wild west there and one of the biggest you know I've been there a few times and also done a lot of um just kind of like talking to people and understanding what happens there and a lot of the you know there's ancient Woods there and a lot of that goes to Europe so like what a lot of the the cattle for example is what they use to kind of occupy the land but what they're really after which is really valuable there is like gold and Min m you know the the rare medals the rare medals yeah the rare medals and the gold and all that stuff that's in there that's what interest this like you know the different um countries let's say they are not brail when they and because it's so corrupt unfortunately you know Brazil is very corrupt the politicians are very corrupt what happens is they sell those rights to those countries and then we have what we have and then the cattle like in the end they just kind of put them there because they have to occupy the land after they REM because they have to enter if you go there after they removed everything because they have to remove the value the value then they then they put all the cows there that's what they do so they remove the ancient wood they they remove the precious metals and and but they have to get there because if you fly over it it mean you're flying for hours over just a Green carpet so for you to have access to that you have to you can't just like clear cut because it grows so what they do to keep the the the forest from growing they just throw because it's very fertile the soil as soon as you cut because imagine that soil is been there like receiving all those back healthy bacteria from the leaves falling super fertile So within like three days you can Grass Grows Right and then in order for the trees not to keep growing because if you just leave abandon that's what's going to happen the birds are going to carry the seeds they're going to drop the seeds they're going to things are going to start growing again and then they won't have access you know so they kind of it's just like a cycle like but what is really after what they're really after it is the big stuff is the is the and and it's not unfortunately you know it's h it's so sad you know is greed mhm in the end of the day is greed and is greed by people that you know they don't have those natural resources where they are and and they understand the situation in Brazil and how corrupt the this the the 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their best interest from a wellness perspective I think the number one thing I feel is like monkey see monkey does right I think you have to be the example you have to leave it um cuz I think whatever you say is one thing and whatever you do you they need to kind they need to whatever you say whatever you do they have to be the same thing right sympatico yeah they have to be sympatico and um and that's what it is and and I think for the kids for my kids were were a lot easier because I was home a lot with them so I was you know taking them to school every day making their breakfast you know just having my Gardens at home growing the food so when the kids would come for play dates at the house you know my kids were grabbing like everything raw cucumbers carrots like green beans they were just grabbing it from the garden and like collecting things and putting in the basket it was like a game for them and it was like oh friends are coming over why are we going to grab for the for to Door picnic outside and then so they grew up in that way you know they they uh so it was easier for me to feed them healthier food and and and and explain to them you know we always compost it we had bees at our house um so you know they they were learning about you know when The Beekeeper would come and they explain you know how much be how much honey can you take and how much money how much honey do you leave for the bees and how does a the how does a queen bee work and all the so they were they're emotionally connected they were emotionally connected they were part of that like I was as a kid so um so for them is really natural and they were also homeschooled for the last three years um during the you know the whole pandemic thing I and we moved from Boston to Tampa so um it was a whole new world for them so I I homeschooled them and now they just went back to school but I have to tell you I see a huge difference especially because my son is 14 now so he wants to kind of push back this is what I'm getting at oh yeah well how old kid well they range from 28 to 16 and each one of there's four and each of them is different um but it's a delicate dance because you know we raised our kids similarly um but they reach a certain age and part of individuation and maturing is taking ownership for your own choices and understanding what you stand for and what you don't and in order to really Define that and hone that you have to go out and kind of push the envelope and try new things otherwise it's just something you're doing because that's the way you were raised and that's what your parents told you as opposed to really owning it for yourself and so so we have learned that you have to have the brains very loose and and let them go out and do what they want to do and control the environment at home but be you know very kind of nonplused if they go and make a choice that you wouldn't make or whatever and just be curious about it and allow them the space to do that and you know you hope they come back and you know do it the way you taught them to um and sometimes they do and sometimes they don't and again every one of them is different in our case but as they get to a certain point and especially you know when they're with peers and friends and they're in social situations those things they have to learn for themselves and you have to allow them to I think it's so interesting so you have to let go a little bit oh let go and let God yeah I tell myself that is like a mantra you know and and and I I I remind myself of like my mom let me leave home she emancipated me and I was leing in Japan at 14 and there was no cell phones like I call you know can you imagine doing that for one of your children right now no and actually you know what it's so funny because I was having a conversation with my son about that he um he was complaining you know I have chores in my house you know kids have to do their chores so set the table wash the dishes you know now I make a point you know I cook at you know they come from school I'm cooking you know they so one has to set the table whoever sets the table the other has to wash the dishes and there is like you have to clean your room you have to do the basic stuff you know my daughter is doing amazingly she loves it and she's like really good and very proud of herself mom look how good I cleaned the dishes like she's really good and she's washing herself she's not putting it in the machine she wants to learn how to really wash it and and and do it right and she's very focused on it my son is like always like why do I have to do this you know so actually we had like a breakthrough this Christmas this this whole holiday season because I said he says to me I'm going to leave home when I'm 18 mom and I don't know if I'm going to go to college you didn't go to college you didn't go to school I'm going to just leave home when I'm 18 and I'm going to do this and I'm going to do that I'm like okay that's great so you're going to leave in your own apartment and who's going to cook for you and who's going to wash your dishes and who's going to clean your clothes who's going to do that and he's like for a second he's like because you're not going to have a chef and like a you know like and he was thinking for a second and I say well this is why when mommy tells you to do those things at home you know is because I want to give you more tools for your tool boox because when you learn how to do those things and they become second nature to you then you don't even have to think about it you become empowered to do it for yourself you don't depend on anybody and that's nothing it's amazing to be able to do that I said you know what made me feel so like strong and capable when I left my home because my mom taught me how to do those things so when I left home and I was leaving by myself at 14 years old I was first at 13 at 14 I moved to Japan but because I was leaving in the mod's apartment I was the only person there who knew how to clean cook iron do absolutely everything in the house because my mom taught me and it was easy for me I didn't think it was a struggle I was happy to do it and I was happy to to do it for the other girls that didn't know how to do it but if you're going to be planning on leaving on your own at 18 who do you think is going to do all those things for you so all I'm telling you is like take advantage that mommy's here for you right now and I'm able to teach you all those things and you can do it at your time I'm not telling you like at this time you have to wash the dishes so let me just help you I'm going to create a list for you and you just have to do them and you can decide if you want to wash clothes once or twice a week you can decide if you want to wash the dishes right after dinner or before you go to bed whatever you want but if you learn how to do those things you're going to see how empowered you're going to feel and the more tools we can put like the more things like the simple things like that that you can learn and that you can equip your tool box to do you're just going to be just that much like capable and and and there's nothing more fulfilling than feeling like you're able to do stuff that you're capable and then he looked at me and he's like okay mom so when we get back home you give me that list and I'm going to do it I'm like I wow I was going to say like he actually he actually receiv that I I think I have a breakthrough I think I got a breakthrough with the hormones are raging like whatever mom you know storming off like you can get you can get that reaction too that was good good job don't you think that was a good thing but but I used but you see it was a moment that I used what he said because when he thought to himself that's true how am I going to do all that stuff I said you don't want to live in like a you know a messy stinky place that is not clean like you know you want to like have you know so you need to know how to do this stuff and I think all I I see like all the things that happen in life like that like different tools we acquire you know even the job that I you know my job like all the tools that I've acquired in this job all the things that I've learned to do um that I don't know when I'm going to use I use them for my job but maybe I'm going to they going to be useful like in 20 years from my life sure but you came from very different circumstances it's the it's the Peril of success right like you and and the kid's dad like worked very hard to achieve all of these things in life and now they're reared in you know like an insane degree of privilege and it becomes more difficult to instill that kind of work ethic into somebody who you know grows up that way I think you're correct I think it becomes a lot more difficult but I think goes back to the discipline and it goes back to priorities and I think it for me it becomes about what kind of you know I I feel like I'm their Guardian because we don't possess our children right I mean we just come here they come through us but they're as much as our teachers as we are they're teachers and we're constantly learning and teaching you know in every relationship in our life and and I feel that we get this moment in time which is very short in a way that we get to influence our children because then they go I mean look at my parents they had 14 years to influence me then I was out in the world and I never went back and I keep remembering like what are all the things that if they wouldn't have taught me those things where would I be today and I'm so grateful for them for for those lessons and I feel like yes I grew up in very different circumstances than my kids and it is a bit more challenging to have them you know make their bed and wash the dishes and clean their you know when I have a person that can do it too but I make a point of me doing it so then they learn that oh Mommy's doing the dinner Mommy is making the breakfast mommy is so they're like weel you have to model and I feel like it's a different kind of modeling is it is the type of modeling that I prefer it's it's the type of modeling that I find to be the important type of modeling because that's the you know I mean what's Mo the most important thing you're going to do in your life I feel like raising children is is by far the most challenging thing I've ever done and the most uh fulfilling at the same time and you know but I feel that if if I if I don't do that if I don't equip my children to be good capable assets you know for themselves in their lives if they're not going to be then I fail I I feel yeah you haven't done your job then I haven't done my job I mean I feel that's my job I mean that's a job I do to kind of make a living so I can like you know put foot on the table and have but my real job as as I think as a as a mom and I chose to be a mom so I have to show up for my kids and I feel like this things that my you know I think is really what shaped me and what made me who I am today was definitely the upbringing that I had and and what my parents how they guided me and I feel like that's really important so I make that a priority in my life to make sure that my kids are going to have even though they don't have those same needs you know to do those things because my mom didn't have a a person she could pay to come clean the house we had to you clean the bathroom you clean the you know it was like a list all of us have to share between us who's going to do what and we grew up that way and it was kind of fun because you know I was always I always love the cleaning part you know I love organizing and cleaning I feel like a clean house is a clean mind is like a what's out is in you know if like if everything is organized outside I can think um and I tell my kids that and I feel that um if I can really get them to do those simple things in life you know and and learn those things and teach them how to be self-sufficient and capable human beings I feel like I've done my job and then I can rest and then whatever else they do the choices they make if they choose to eat the food that I fed them when they were little if now they want to go eat you know whatever or I mean it's going to be what they're going to do you know they're going to choose their friends hopefully they they choose wisely because in the end of the day they're going to be the one dealing with the consequences of their actions and I always tell them like listen you know you're going to go out there and you're going to make the Cho whatever choice you make there are going to be consequences you're dealing with those consequences me this is your life and sometimes they need to they need to make those mistakes and face those consequences like we had I mean how many mistakes that I mean I have and those those experiences are formative like I'm sure if you look in the rear view mirror and think about the panic attacks that you were having on airplanes and your inability to get into an elevator and you know this desire to jump off your balcony on some level you wouldn't wish that experience on anybody but you probably wouldn't wna change your experience either because it's set in motion this whole sensibility and way of being that you now have and I think with kids they regardless of whether they hear you in the moment or whether they go out into the world and make a bunch of mistakes like they come back yeah and whatever you taught them it's in there and at some point when they're ready or whatever like they return to it and you know and and I think to to trust that it's very important and I also feel like because if you try to overly control it you're going to drive them away absolutely and and you know I think for me I keep going back to me as a kid and the trust my parents had in me to let me go and I wouldn't be who I am today if it wasn't for them trusting in me and for all the mistakes that I've made and then had to come the other side and figure out for myself so I think it's important to give our children the Dignity of Their Own process you know because we had a dignity you know we have to go through our own process to become who we are and I think as long as they know that we are there and what what is our values you know is like those things that are important what is what is that we stand for what's important for us you know as as as as a as a value as a core value as as as a being a good human being and a good person and if you thought that your children and and they and they got it in the end of the day they're going to go out there in the world and they're going to have to make their mistakes and I I think the best thing you can do for them it's is just be there for them whenever they they come back and if they want your help you know and I think it's it's hard because you want to protect them like you can put Bobble wrap on them so like nothing will touch them and they will be safe but in the end of the day that's unrealistic and it's like it doesn't work anyway you know what I like this idea you know there's a metaphor of the butterfly imagine the caterpillar as she's transforming into becoming the butterfly she's you know eating eating all the you know until she finally starts spinning into a cocoon and and then she has to like go through that whole stous process if you ever seen like you know they turn into GP yeah but they're like but it's exactly it's just and it's really kind of like hard to like when they're coming out it's like really awkward and it looks like they're very strenuous and very difficult so if you go in there and you try to help them come out you're going to them you're going to the butterfly and she won't be able to have the strength she needs struggle is the struggle is what crucial to the the growth and you have to give them the Dignity of their own process you have to be and I and I keep reminding myself I cannot take away that opportunity for them because my parents gave me the opportunity for me to go through my own challenges and I grew and and I want my kids to have that same opportunity because whoever they're going to become is going to be based on what their choice is and hopefully I gave them enough good examples and and and good um values where they would make the choices that is right for them you know what is it that you want people to understand or take away from the new book and and how you are modeling this lifestyle um whether it's dietary changes Lifestyle Changes uh movement practices how can somebody who is interested in kind of leveling up across the board begin the process of of making those changes in their life you know it's funny you know because when I decided to do a cookbook I'm the farthest thing there is from a chef let me tell you something I I am not a chef let me just like let's be honest you've got a private Chef in home that person is taking care of everything not anymore I used to you don't anymore no I don't I don't it's no the last two years I don't you're cooking your own meals yes I'm cooking my own meals yeah I I grew up there way and I want like I told you like my priority is showing my kids what I believe it's important for them and and and I can't I can't say oh this is important and then I have and I'm not doing it you know what I mean so it has to be cohesive right and and I think that for me um really being like living what I believe is very important and I was showing my kids that this is important to me like the only way I'm going to show them that is by doing that so yes I had chefs and this is how I learn how to cook a lot of the things a lot of the recipes in the book are like inspired by the things that I created with the chefs that I throughout the years I had the opportunity to you know to really work with Incredible people incredible Chef people that love food as much as I do because I love food um but was really an idea for me to look I can say go and meditate go and exercise you know I believe meditation I believe rest I believe um exercise I believe nutrition all of those things are extremely important for you to be able to take kind of ownership of your health and really take care of yourself and have and work on just having a more clear mind and just feeling more connected to yourself I think all of those things are different aspects of it but the reason about the cookbook is quite frankly I was seeing kids were coming to our house and in play dates and and moms will come and be like how did you get my kid to eat broccoli or roasted vegetables or and it was like so simple and I was like oh maybe we can share how to make some simple recipes that are super easy you can make it like in 10 minutes and you know moms some you know you just sometimes feel overwhelmed and I know because life is busy there's so so much going on so I was like how can I help in this way and also I feel like food is a perfect time for you to practice being present and mindful because you can eat like on a rush and not being present and the food have a one effect in your body or you can do something which is what I talk about in the book is like every time I look at my food not only the act of preparing your food there so much loves and you're touching the food and you're connecting with your food that's one thing but even if you're not the one cooking your food just to take a moment to bless your food to acknowledge that that is something that is alive that you're taking it and you're that's also your source of life you know so it's kind of like connecting to the food in that way I think it it does something because everything is energy so you're having a transfer of energy with something and with the intention that you're eating it has a different I I feel huge you know when I start doing that does make a difference how he has a different just being present and being connected to what you're doing having gratitude for that moment and you get to do that three times a day you know I mean now I have a juice once a day but I still blast my juice but it's just kind of like it's just this book what I would like to to to for people to take is like it can be really simple it doesn't have to be complicated to to eat healthy and really like if you have plans you know my mom taught me you know since I was a kid like no food waste so how can we organize our meals so can there's a big thing about like reducing waste yeah there for me that's huge and also like me planning like if you're going to buy because or you know food sourcing that's huge it's not about having something with a lot of condiments and a lot of stuff it's just like keep it simple but buying really great quality products like if you can do that and then instead of like because a lot of people are like oh and then you buy organic and then you throw it out because it's like you know it spoils much faster and I'm like yeah but if you have a meal planning and I and I teach that I kind of give some suggestions in the book like my mom did that I grew up like that because she didn't have time you know she was working all the time so she had like in the fridge like what we going to have for the whole week so she would go to the groceries and she would buy and then the things were allowed to the next day so you would always know what we were eating and things that wouldn't be eaten could be easily transferred for the next day and be made into the next organiz so that nothing spoils and you're so nothing spoils and you never had food waste because you're always taking it from one day to the next so is never wasting you always	of all time everybody knows this on paper like you're perhaps highly unrelatable but then the more you dig into your story and the more I kind of learned about your Arc and your past and what brought you to this place there's so much that's deeply relatable and your kind of transformation story is remarkably similar to mine although you did yours at like 23 I was 40 um but there's so much in there so I thought it would be cool to kind of um talk a little bit about what it was like what happened and how you made these changes in your life because I think you're in this interesting new season right now where despite the fact that you've been this Wellness Advocate and wellness Warrior for a long time my sense is that there's a there's a more full Embrace of of that now with kind of how you see yourself and what's important to you a well thank you for the introduction you know the funny thing is I you know people's you know what I did for a living is something that kind of just happened to me at 14 years old you know it was it was like hey do you want to be a model and I thought oh I can help my family you know I can do make a living and and help you know I have five sisters and and all that so modeling to me is	8	4	6	of all time everybody knows this on paper like you're perhaps highly unrelatable but then the more you dig into your story and the more I kind of learned about your Arc and your past and what brought you to this place there's so much that's deeply relatable and your kind of transformation story is remarkably similar to mine although you did yours at like 23 I was 40 um but there's so much in there so I thought it would be cool to kind of um talk a little bit about what it was like what happened and how you made these changes in your life because I think you're in this interesting new season right now where despite the fact that you've been this Wellness Advocate and wellness Warrior for a long time my sense is that there's a there's a more full Embrace of of that now with kind of how you see yourself and what's important to you	a well thank you for the introduction you know the funny thing is I you know people's you know what I did for a living is something that kind of just happened to me at 14 years old you know it was it was like hey do you 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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjK5ahIgsHA	4,193	rjK5ahIgsHA	2024-03-25 00:00:00	the choices that you're making are really either supporting you or not straight from the pages of Victoria Secret please welcome jaelle bunin gazelle bunin gazelle has walked in nearly 500 fashion shows and great the covers of more than 1,200 different magazines on paper like you're perhaps highly unrelatable you know what it is it's a character that's the job I do to kind of make a living so I can like you know put foot on the table raising children is is by far the most challenging thing I've ever done it's a different kind of modeling is the type of modeling that I prefer food is a perfect time for you to practice being present and mindful because it can be really simple it doesn't have to be complicated to eat healthy nature is just like it's me instead of like trying to control nature we need to just like take a humble pill and and learn from the Big Mama [Music] today's episode is brought to you by the awesome organizations that make this show [Music] possible so nice to meet you nice to meet you too so excited to have you here today yes when this opportunity presented itself I was like of course I want to talk to Jazelle and then I had my own like sort of mini panic attack we're going to get into panic attacks I'm like what could I possibly talk to this person about the alltime great super model of all time everybody knows this on paper like you're perhaps highly unrelatable but then the more you dig into your story and the more I kind of learned about your Arc and your past and what brought you to this place there's so much that's deeply relatable and your kind of transformation story is remarkably similar to mine although you did yours at like 23 I was 40 um but there's so much in there so I thought it would be cool to kind of um talk a little bit about what it was like what happened and how you made these changes in your life because I think you're in this interesting new season right now where despite the fact that you've been this Wellness Advocate and wellness Warrior for a long time my sense is that there's a there's a more full Embrace of of that now with kind of how you see yourself and what's important to you a well thank you for the introduction you know the funny thing is I you know people's you know what I did for a living is something that kind of just happened to me at 14 years old you know it was it was like hey do you want to be a model and I thought oh I can help my family you know I can do make a living and and help you know I have five sisters and and all that so modeling to me is something that is um an opportunity that came along like I think in life you have these opportunities that either you take that train and then see where it goes you know and I never even believed that this was going to take me and I was going to be doing this for almost 30 years you know it's it's one of those things that I was like oh I'll start doing this job and you know send money home and help my sisters go through school and do all that and um and maybe in five years you know I'll get a house because I didn't even go to school you know I I I was emancipated at 14 yeah you were in Tokyo at 14 I was living in Japan without speaking English and J or Japanese and that's when I when I start learning the language of of of energy you know what I mean because you don't have to understand the language you just have to feel you know something there's a lot more that has been said without words you know sure so I start learning about that um but I think that I went through this journey of modeling which was something I thought was going to last five years and I was just going to help my family out for a little bit and it just kept going you know it just kept happening you know I I didn't even think you can have longevity in this career because it's not what I what I saw really around me happening um but you know I kept it kept working out so I kept doing it and it was kind of a Mindless thing you know when you got in the hamster wheel and I think we do that sometimes in life and you're so young you don't know and you Liv the fast life and all of that so in my early 20s I um developed you know anxiety and panic attacks and all that because you know when you drink a bottle of wine and that because you like I used to be a smoker so I smoke I can't even imagine I used to smoke it feels like a whole different life you know but um it was the late 90s and there was a lot of um drugs and fashion and all that so I thought I was saying just because I was like having some wine and smoking cigarettes everybody was doing way worse things than yeah I'm sure you've seen a lot I've seen a lot yeah that's a whole other show about that that's a whole other story but yeah so um you know so that was the beginning for me to start reconnecting with myself because I think when I was 14 and I got that train my only focus was like how can I be the best that I can do on this and and and that was my focus and and I didn't meure any sacrifice he was like if I had to work 360 days a year and I felt like I couldn't say no because people were giving me a chance and then I was like in this really overdrive uh and burn down my adrenals I found out later when I found this amazing natural Doctor Who told me like listen you don't have any more adrenal they're shut down because you burn them basically I'm like but I'm only 22 you know so um basically I had to change the habits that I you know smoking a pack of cigarettes drinking alcohol every day to myself down coffee all day to keep myself up and also going from you know one time zone to the next I was three days in Paris two days in London one day in New York going back to you know my life was in a living in a suitcase and of course your nervous system is going to freak out you know and the way I was eating it was very you know anything that was in front of me I was just like not mindful about anything you know I was just kind of um like a Workhorse and when that happen to me is when I you know I come from a family that is very my my grandmother had a tea for everything so we never had we were not the kind of you know you get sick let me see this herbal remedy that we you know so yeah you grew up in kind of a small village right in Brazil your grandmother was cultivating herbs and she was the person that everyone would go to for their remedy so you have this sort of background and connection you know with the Earth exactly that you know is kind of lingering in the back of your mind when you're just you know hammering nails and and you know drinking wine and living that life but you're young it's like that's kind of what your 20s are for kind of and you're you're on this like Jet Plane I mean figuratively and literally like your career's taking off on top of that a people pleasing tendency where you feel like you have to say yes to everything and you're just go go go go go yeah and and I think but that was a big wakeup call for me because I think sometimes you know you have to reach rock bottom and when I had that those anxiety and they start becoming like almost CRI because I couldn't get on planes he was just you know I was going to all these doctors and they were like you have to take this stuff and I was just afraid of taking anything because I've never taken anything you know I was a there was a t for for this there you know my grandmother wasn't there so finally you know I wasn't going to take any medication because just the idea of taking something I was like I was normal before how can I go back being what I was you know like I I I didn't have these issues so what's happening long story short I found this doctor I had to replace my habits it was that simple I had to replace these habits that had created the reality I was living at that moment which was you know um really killing me in in so many ways you know killing my spirit killing my and and I replace it with good habits so now instead of smoking cigarettes and having a mocha frappuccino in the morning I'll would go out and do breath work and go out for a run and you know I replace in one day I gave up everything because he he looked at me he said jelle he called me Adrenalina he says do you want to live and I said I do he's like so we going to CH change my diet and that's for the first time in my life that I realized that I I was really like the one who got myself there and I was the only person who could get myself out by the choices that I was making so I had to take full responsibility for what I had created but it was in my power only in my power to change that there were no doctors nobody who was going to save me I had to change um you know the choices I was making and I and I did that and it was incredible because after over a year and a half like really struggling with anxiety and panic attacks and all that within 3 months I was like I never had another incident and it was you know and and once you start meditating I mean at that point this was 20 years ago right it wasn't like people were talking about meditation and yoga any other that um it was just um you know when you sit in silence and you and you reflect which is what we don't really give ourselves time to do because the world is so fastpaced and everything is catching your attention is trying to throw you off your Center you know everything is so busy it's like an overload of information to have that space to go inside and reflect and look and really take a step back I think that was the biggest blessing of my life so really I think what could have killed me is what gave me a whole new life and it was amazing because since then like everything changed like I realized that food is my medicine I realized that I am the director of my own movie that I'm creating my reality based on the choices that I'm making but what I'm choosing to not the people I'm choosing to have around in my life but what type of energy what kind of thoughts I allow to what am I feeding you know what kind of thoughts am I so all of that so that became like a big um changing of seasons for me in my early 20s what were those first couple weeks like if you went completely cold turkey on all of these bad habits I think it was like a drug addict I never was a I guess I was a drug etic only legal drugs because I guess alcohol is a drug and so is cigarettes nicotine and all that and caffeine and all that but they're like socially accepted but I tell you that I had the worst migraine I mean I felt like the I mean maybe that's what a person who's going like you have gone to to rehab right so I'm I don't know what you felt I would love to hear but I for me it was like right I mean I don't know about that sub it's the only way I know how to do it though I don't understand how people kind of phase out of stuff like you have to for me you have to draw the line and step over it and it's going to suck and you're going to be uncomfortable for a while while um but you know that on the other side of that lies all of this opportunity and possibility um but uh and that's what happened to me I think there was that because what I knew I knew that what I was and what if you do what you've always done you're going to get what you've always gotten is that simple and what I realized at that moment that what I what I created for myself was not what I wanted I needed to a drastic change and then he was like draw the line stopped everything in one day and the migraines and all of that like the consequences of what I had done I had to deal with them you know it took me like two weeks I think I was like having the worst migraines just because I didn't know if it was the nicotine the caffeine the alcohol I don't know what it was but it was all of it together and um but then it was amazing because from that experience I I became so much stronger and I and there are lots of different things that happen in my life after that I feel like every time we get tested it's like the Super Mario you know like the little video game when you go to do the big boss like you go through all the phases and you go to level one the big boss is like one it's okay to defeat that one but then the second one is like a tough for big boss and then the third one is you know it's like it's life I feel like that's what life is you get like the new tools so you get equipped and then you go to the next challenge that is a bigger one and then is a bigger one I feel like that's why we're here you know to keep seeing how we can expand how much more we can to grow to evolve to expand to see how strong and how creative and how you know how can how much we can experience of all this wonder how did you how did you plug that into the fast-paced life of of your modeling career because it's one thing if you're living a more kind of grounded atome lifestyle where you can control your food and your environment a little bit better but when you're flying all over the world and you're on these sets and there's craft service and it's junk food like you have to be way ahead of the curve to prepare everything to have everything kind of organized for yourself because how do you you if you're in just hotels all over the place and you arrive at midnight like how are you getting your you know like how did so how did you manage all of that you have to be very discipline I think you know when I I did this book called lessons and um and it was like everything starts to discipline that was like my first chapter and that's what I believe you have to decide you have and then you have to have the discipline to follow through so once you realize that these choices that you are making are having a positive impact in your life you want to continue doing them you know what I mean you don't want to fall back and just something that it didn't feel good that's your past like you don't want to go back there again so you're going to stick to the plan like this is what's working and this is what made me feel good again so I'm going to stick to this and of course it's not 100% you have to be compassionate with yourself too and say you I'll be like you know life is hard as it is you need to bit yourself in the head sometimes if you go and you oh you know I had like um I was exhausted I had like a banana bread or something or I had you know but I think you realize that the choices that you're making are are really either supporting you or not you know supporting you living the life that making you feel good and living the life that you want and is taking to the direction where you want to go or not and then it's just kind of an easier choice to make right and then I feel like when I go to the jobs you know I got to the point in my life where people know how I eat and you know I can tell people like listen this is what I want I want you got extensive riter yeah I kind of you know because I was already working for so long so I I have you know I got to the I guess really the privilege to be able to to kind of say like this is the kind of things that I would like to eat so please at the job you know if you're working 10 12 hours in a studio can we have these things available you know what I mean so then it was easier to keep the food healthy you know um because I think that's so important and then just to say I feel like and then saying no to those things you know like coffee or alcohol or things that I was just so used to because I was still in that same environment the environment hadn't changed I had changed but all of that was around me still but then it was just a choice of saying you know I feel great and I haven't drank alcohol in over two years now too this is something you know I even when I went back drinking after it was very moderate you know I was still like like I would drink socially sometimes you know peer pressure sometimes like oh come on have a drink you know and then you like feel like especially in my world I mean everyone pretty much is like socially having a drink so I would be like okay I'll have a drink but then he got to a point that I was like and that was like 20 years later because it just happened over two years ago I was like I don't want to drink like I don't care what anyone thinks and I don't care if they have Fe peer pressure I'm going to have my Min tea my cam tea and if they want to drink I'm not making anyone feel bad about drinking they can do whatever they want this is their Temple you know this is my temple I get to choose and they shouldn't make me feel bad that I don't want to you know so um then I kind of stood up for myself I think that happens after your 40s like you care less about what other people think and um wait till you're 50 oh my God I can't wait for that I'm gonna like he's he's gonna be amazing but I think the thing you mentioned you mentioned like being directed and and and being kind of dedicated to your path and and and I feel like that's the underappreciated aspect of of understanding you and your career a lot of people arrive in New York City every single day with a similar dream or ambition that you had when you were a young person and you arrived there and a lot of those people are very beautiful you're beautiful but that doesn't tell the story of how you translated like an opportunity into the career that you had and I think between the lines there is an intense work ethic and a very intentional approach to what you were doing like how did you apply those skills like what is the differentiator between you and the career that you've enjoyed versus you know the other beautiful people who aren't enjoying the same kind of career you can't and you're not allowed to say luck or you're you know no I don't believe I don't believe in luck I don't believe in luck I believe in hard work and but I believe in um I mean I think discipline but I also believe that I always treated everyone the way I like to be treated and I've always was appreciative I have this immense sense of gratitude for just being there so even though you know people were like oh you know you you know when I was 19 I was like I want the model of you know the model of the year and everybody's like how does it feel to be it didn't really it doesn't matter to me because quite frankly I never saw myself as a motel it's just not something I didn't drink the Kool-Aid I didn't believe because I was a model or because I I became successful in this job like I was better than anybody I just and I didn't believe that I believe that I just got to learn that craft really well and I understood what the job entail and like I learned how to do the job really well but by no means is what defined me it's just something I did it's not it's not who I am I don't know if you know it's like I go there I had this opportunity at you know 13 14 years old when I finally left home and and and and St pursued this career that really I thought it was just really I did it for the money I did it because I was like what else am I going to do at 14 years old that I can help my family you know I don't have any other jobs that are offering me an opportunity so I'll take this one so for me it was really like a job so I never like it didn't kind of Define me I kind of did it my way like I never became like you know it was like oh it needs to be glamorous I was never glamorous I'm a jeans and t-shirt type of girl like I if I needed to go to parties or hang out with this type of people I never did any of that like I went there I did my job I did the best that I could I never was late in my life for my jobs like never showed up like late I was there before everyone I was there 100% you know I I I just wanted to make sure that if people were booking me and they they were trusting in me that I was going to show up and deliver you know and I think that's kind of what it was I did it my way you know and it didn't broke me kind of Cu I saw you know people in this business you know you can lose yourself because if you drink the Kool-Aid if you start thinking you know like you lose yourself in it I never lost myself it was just a job and it's still just a job I can't even believe I'm still doing it sometimes I go in and I do it you it's not it's not what I do full- time anymore but it's just one of those things that you know I got to do this I got to make a career out of it and got to make a great living and help my family and I I have wonderful you know I got to travel the world and learn different languages and and and all of that and that's how I see it I don't see it as a you know I don't see myself you're not defined by it you're not you're not caught up in in the kind of dark underbelly of that very strange world this whole world is like almost like a parallel reality for me you know what I mean if something is like a switch on button I go there I do my job I take my picture I turn it off I go home and I have the same friends I have my my family I'm very close with my family but I think you're very good at seeing opportunities when they arise and you tell a little story in in in the new book about being 14 and on route to Tokyo and your parents gave you your dad gave you a little bit of money that was intended for getting a cab from that's the first day arve in s Paulo and instead of using that money oh it was you were super young right so you had a little bit of money to take a tab and you had the presence of mind to say this money would be better spent buying some clothes so I can do better in my auditions or whatnot um which isn't like that's not normal like that's somebody who's thinking ahead who's planning long term who's understanding that they have an opportunity in front of them and trying to figure out how to make the most out of it with limited resources and I think that speaks to or says a lot about your sensibility or your perspective as a business person yeah I mean it's so interesting to see it that way I mean I for me at that moment in time you know I I I just felt like I did something else than that you know that was one of the things and now that you're saying that I actually did that throughout because I bought my first apartment when I was 19 years old and when everybody was buying you know designer bags all the models and you know like remember I didn't know I was going to last in this business I thought like I didn't go to school I didn't go to high school I didn't you know I I left I I went to work and whenever I go I go back I thought I was going to be a farmer or something because I just always love the land and but I I didn't think like you know like where am I going to go from here so I have to make sure that I have at least a place to live I'm a cancer so I want to have like a stable home and when I was 19 you know people start flying me first class because I was like the model of the year right saw all the clients now are paying me first class I was exchanging those tickets for Coach classes because I was every two three days in a different country and instead of paying um my you know a rent in an apartment I pay I put down a down payment for an apartment and then I was paying my mortgage instead of paying rent and you're 19 and I was 19 so I I own my first apartment as 19 years old it was like a in in New York City it was like facing a wall of another building mind you he was like a very apartment you know that does require some maturity and some long-term thinking well well because I just thought to myself like you know I don't know how long I'm going to stay here you know I i' I at least I have to have a place to live if I like I'm not going to live empty-handed you know what I mean like what do I care about a bag or like what is that going to give me it's not going to be a roof over my head I need to make sure that I have that I can spend in the right places but I think that sense came from my mother because we grew up you know my mother was a cashier in the bank my father had like lots of different jobs like he had a real estate job but he was you know my mom they literally we we were like really simple people and grew up in two bedrooms with six girls and and and money was all always tight so I learned how to is the same thing in the book is like how do you prepare how do you not waste food I mean everything is like I think in my life I was kind of like raised that way you know what I mean kind of plan ahead like for tomorrow so you make sure that you have like food for everyone like like we're going to reuse the meat we cook on the barbecue and we're going to put it in the rice we're going to have carera so we're going to have an abundant meal because we have the rest of the you know what I mean it's kind of like that it's like you put money in the bank so when you retire you have something to to live off when you can no longer work the same thing I feel about food like you eat the right food so when you're older you you're able to have the energy and your body is functioning because you made the right choices so for me it's the same thing you know it's kind of making like just being kind of what is necessary here like do I really need this what do I need more do I need a roof over my head or do I need this this bags and this stuff do I need to take a taxi when I arrive to the model apartment when I'm 14 even though I never been to the city or can I take the subway and save the money so I can get the clothes for the casting and maybe I can get a job it's like it's kind of thinking like with the resources that I have right now what is the smartest how is the smartest way to use them I guess if you're like me never without a water bottle let's get it right people allow me to rock your world with my new favorite toy that's actually not a toy at all it's a non-negotiable essential camel backs Podium steel 100% % leak proof water bottle emphasis on leak proof for all 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it's you know what it is it's a character I always call call it her because I think being a MTO what I understood as being a motto is to play a character in a silent movie you know you get to experience all these different charact all these different aspects of of of being a woman let's say because one designer wants you to be more androgynous you know one designer was you know I remember diding a Balin Saga campaign I was like they made me a boy I was like literally like a week I was like a man a boy and in one I was like the sexy Versace campaign like you know like with big hair and like you know pushup bra you know so it was kind of like I got to play from the the androgynous girl to the very sexy to the tomb boy like I got to you know I mean you should see I don't know if you ever saw my book the other one that was like the 20 years I did a 20 well I watched the video that you did where you kind of went through it and you were talking about what was going on with you with each of those photographs yeah so it's it's it's it's really about kind of playing these different roles but it's just instead of you talking like you would be in a movie you're just you got to make the image that picture that one capture image to to it's a performance art it's a performance art but it's such a weird world I know that like Alexander McQueen he was like he was really the Catalyst right he was the guy who gave me the chance you know he gave me the the chance but when you watch his shows or some of these other shows like the designs are are stunning and gorgeous but they're also totally inaccessible it's like who wears this does anybody is there anybody in the world that even wear I mean if you're Lady Gaga I guess or somebody like that but like yeah it's a fantasy and so it's curious like how does that translate into I guess it's just how you feel and how you think about a particular designer or a brand and not so much about directly selling those designs to the person who's going to the department store or the boutique right yeah they're not thinking I don't even understand the business model of the whole thing yeah I me neither to be honest with you but I think it's a really I mean I think it has changed a lot uh since I started like I see a big shift because I think before there was a lot more creativity there was allowed a lot more creativity I think you know McQueen or JN galano you know the shows and stuff like you were like in a world like sure and the photographers being rock stars themselves oh yeah and and it was a I think it was a moment in time where there was so much less about selling but it was much more about the the inspiration and the aspir aspiring you know the aspiration of creating like a fantasy and like a and it was a lot of fun then I have to say at that time because I would have been dead I wouldn't have survived it I would have gone all in I would have been at every after hours party it would have been a disaster you see I was in bed like studying my astrology books like by 10 you know that was me I was like by 10 I was like oh no I have to go I was like I have to start early so I can go to bed early so for me it was a a different thing but um you know but I guess for me I also fell very responsible because I didn't want to one of the The Guiding lights for me I really believe was my parents because I saw how hard they work and I didn't want to disappoint them so I think part of like me being so stay on the line was like I'm not disappointing my parents I don't care if they're not here they are going to know what I'm doing like I remember part of the reason why I got so freaked out about the McQueen show and they sent me out like without a top because I couldn't speak English and they didn't even do a feeding anyway so then I was I was like oh my God if my parents see this they're GNA make me go back home and then I you know what is it like when you go internet but there was no internet in 1997 19 it wasn't so thank God because they didn't even saw that otherwi they would have been like what what are you doing I be like I don't know and you have five siblings right I have five sisters I'm a middle child I have two older sisters and two younger sisters and I'm a twin MH in the middle so we like the the sandwich like the cheese in the sandwich being Brazilian uh you're connected to the Amazon and to climate change issues and you've done a lot in terms of your environmental advocacy and clean water initiatives talk a little bit about how that began and and what that looked like now you know I um I've always been a big um basically like a child of nature I always tell my children when they ask you know what's your religion they say Mom we don't go to church I say you know what you're in church every day I say I say what do I say when people ask what my what my religion is I say love is your religion and nature is your church that's your Cathedral that's the big church that's our Temple you know so you honor your temple you love your temple you CU that's the only reason why we are all alive because this whole ecosystem is making it possible you know to grow our food to give us to provide us with all the things we need to survive so U and that's how I grew up I felt that way and especially having a grandmother that everything was from the earth you know she grew everything she ate and and uh you know the Earth was giving us the herbs that we needed to like when we fell ill and and I grew up in that way so when you grew up in that way and you grew up running around bare feet you know I come from a small village and anytime you want to eat something you grab there was like a tangerine tree or like a orange tree or is a plum tree and you just go and pick up the fruit from the tree we never bought fruits from the supermarket you know you go either you had it in your backyard or your neighbor had it or the other neighbor you know somebody had the fruit he wanted to eat you just go grab it so I think when you leave with that connection to Nature you have a different appreciation it's like so I feel like nature is just like it's it's it's me like I think we are n you know we are that and I think this connection from nature for me is not something it's just something I've always known you know is how I grew up and so for me um taking care of which I love which is nature is natural um so the but the first time I realized there was really problems happening is when I went to actually spend some time uh with the indigenous people in shingu area of the Amazon in the 2004 and that's when the first time I realized you know pesticide what's what pesticides were doing where mining was doing how they were contaminating the rivers and basically all the indigenous tribes they were living and depending on the that water they were getting sick and even though they were living very wholesomely you know with nature and you know by the impact that the big farms and different Mining and all that stuff was having um was really um having a really terrible impact in their in their their livelihoods and and that's when the first time I was like I need to do something about it and that's when I started like I had a flipflop line at the time in Brazil and we gave a percentage you know to that's actually a funny story the the the indigenous people and I was like I wonder what they would do with this with this funds but it was like a group that helped indigenous in Brazil and the funny enough when I did when I turned 40 this was in 2004 so I was like 24 cut to when I'm 40 2020 I was 40 um I wanted to do something for my 40th birthday and I was like oh I want to plant some trees in the in in the Amazon and how we going to do it so we looked around for who can help us do that and we contacted the the people that are working with the indigenous people that we knew in in Brazil and they're like we have the largest seed bank in the Amazon and we started with the money with the whole program that you gave in 2004 that money that was for the sale of the flipflops now years later they had the largest seed bank of you know the indigenous they they they collected the larger seed bank and this is how with that whole group of people we basically planted over 300,000 trees in that area of the Amazon so that was like years later so that's just how funny how life goes but for me because I was so connected to nature and I always wanted to help and my dad always said you know water is the most important thing and of course I saw that with the indigenous people because that's how they were all getting sick because all the the you know residue of Mining and and and pesticides were going into their water in my little village we were having a lot of problems with agriculture as well where there was a lot of runoffs from Roundup and all the stuff that they use in agriculture all the pesticides and stuff and it was getting a lot of people sick so we actually did the AGA limpa program in 200 I think it was 20 the N or I don't remember when we started but it was like a long time ago and I funded it and my dad who's also a sociologist worked with the university and we and we basically regenerated the whole area of the river that was kind of you know getting the water to the city and we were able to clean it it took us like a few years to do it you know it was pretty simple because all we had to do I mean it was not simple my dad is the one who did the work it was simpler for me I just kind of funded it but he was there every day he had to work with I don't know how many farmers you had to take their pie of land and kind of grow the native species Forest you know the native Forest back so then the there's a buffer there was a buffer and then the root systems could could filtrate it before all that stuff would go into the river and then that was the agal limpa project and that was one of the projects we did to clean the water and anyway so there's lots of different things but in overall thing my my thing is you know we got to take care of Mother Earth she takes care of us you know when people say to me oh we're going to save the planet I say you're that's such an ego thing you know as humans we think we're going to save anything the planets is in her own process of evolution this is a you know it's I mean dinosaurs were here before us and you know lur I mean so many different civilizations the planet will be fine that's what I always say I say please don't fool yourself I think we really saving ourselves we need to yeah I say there's no Sav we need re ourselves back yeah this is really about us protecting the resources and and taking care of what we really need for our survival because once we are gone the planet is going to regenerate I mean I've seen this over and over again the planet regenerates itself so quickly you know because it's it's just a very intelligent we need to learn from nature instead of like trying to control nature we need to just like take a humble pill and and learn from the Big Mama we've moved so far away from that and we do live in this dualistic mindset where we think there's you know our environments and then there's nature or there's us and that's outside um but really understanding that you're never out of nature as you as you said um I think it's the first point of trying to really deepen your relationship with the world in which you live we all live and share and I think when it comes to the Amazon like we all hear about deforestation and all the you know clearing that's going on for cattle grazing and the strip mining and all the stuff that you mentioned but it's an abstraction especially for you know people in North America like we know what's going on we know it's bad but I've never visited there like I've never seen it myself and you being Brazilian gives you kind of a deeper appreciation and understanding of the extent of it you know I think it's how people tell the story because I think it's a lot deeper than you know I think people like depending on the industry that wants to benefit from something that tell the story and they say okay this is what we're going to do is about the cing oh yeah it's so crazy a lot of NOS go in there and they say we're going to have an NGO because we're going to like protect Amazon but they're meantime they're the owners of the bigger paper company that comes from the Amazon they are just not you know what I mean so there it's not not all is as it seems no it's it's a very it's a wild wild west there and one of the biggest you know I've been there a few times and also done a lot of um just kind of like talking to people and understanding what happens there and a lot of the you know there's ancient Woods there and a lot of that goes to Europe so like what a lot of the the cattle for example is what they use to kind of occupy the land but what they're really after which is really valuable there is like gold and Min m you know the the rare medals the rare medals yeah the rare medals and the gold and all that stuff that's in there that's what interest this like you know the different um countries let's say they are not brail when they and because it's so corrupt unfortunately you know Brazil is very corrupt the politicians are very corrupt what happens is they sell those rights to those countries and then we have what we have and then the cattle like in the end they just kind of put them there because they have to occupy the land after they REM because they have to enter if you go there after they removed everything because they have to remove the value the value then they then they put all the cows there that's what they do so they remove the ancient wood they they remove the precious metals and and but they have to get there because if you fly over it it mean you're flying for hours over just a Green carpet so for you to have access to that you have to you can't just like clear cut because it grows so what they do to keep the the the forest from growing they just throw because it's very fertile the soil as soon as you cut because imagine that soil is been there like receiving all those back healthy bacteria from the leaves falling super fertile So within like three days you can Grass Grows Right and then in order for the trees not to keep growing because if you just leave abandon that's what's going to happen the birds are going to carry the seeds they're going to drop the seeds they're going to things are going to start growing again and then they won't have access you know so they kind of it's just like a cycle like but what is really after what they're really after it is the big stuff is the is the and and it's not unfortunately you know it's h it's so sad you know is greed mhm in the end of the day is greed and is greed by people that you know they don't have those natural resources where they are and and they understand the situation in Brazil and how corrupt the this the the system is you know with the politicians and they come and they they just buy those right they exploited they exploited in in every way but and and in the end of the day it's um I think greed is the biggest dis disease of of our time you're not going to get an argument from me on that over the last decade of Hosting this podcast my mission has been to engage in what I consider to be critically important conversations about the things that matter most in life things like Health relationships growth purpose and service while I'm immensely grateful for the growth of this show I've also come to realize that my voice alone is not enough this mission is not and cannot be a solitary Endeavor so I wanted to find a way to help amplify other meaningful voices and the result is voicing change media this beautiful Consortium of thinkers of storytellers artists and Visionaries all committed to fostering meaningful exchanges intentionally curated for those committed to the path of self-discovery this 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their best interest from a wellness perspective I think the number one thing I feel is like monkey see monkey does right I think you have to be the example you have to leave it um cuz I think whatever you say is one thing and whatever you do you they need to kind they need to whatever you say whatever you do they have to be the same thing right sympatico yeah they have to be sympatico and um and that's what it is and and I think for the kids for my kids were were a lot easier because I was home a lot with them so I was you know taking them to school every day making their breakfast you know just having my Gardens at home growing the food so when the kids would come for play dates at the house you know my kids were grabbing like everything raw cucumbers carrots like green beans they were just grabbing it from the garden and like collecting things and putting in the basket it was like a game for them and it was like oh friends are coming over why are we going to grab for the for to Door picnic outside and then so they grew up in that way you know they they uh so it was easier for me to feed them healthier food and and and and explain to them you know we always compost it we had bees at our house um so you know they they were learning about you know when The Beekeeper would come and they explain you know how much be how much honey can you take and how much money how much honey do you leave for the bees and how does a the how does a queen bee work and all the so they were they're emotionally connected they were emotionally connected they were part of that like I was as a kid so um so for them is really natural and they were also homeschooled for the last three years um during the you know the whole pandemic thing I and we moved from Boston to Tampa so um it was a whole new world for them so I I homeschooled them and now they just went back to school but I have to tell you I see a huge difference especially because my son is 14 now so he wants to kind of push back this is what I'm getting at oh yeah well how old kid well they range from 28 to 16 and each one of there's four and each of them is different um but it's a delicate dance because you know we raised our kids similarly um but they reach a certain age and part of individuation and maturing is taking ownership for your own choices and understanding what you stand for and what you don't and in order to really Define that and hone that you have to go out and kind of push the envelope and try new things otherwise it's just something you're doing because that's the way you were raised and that's what your parents told you as opposed to really owning it for yourself and so so we have learned that you have to have the brains very loose and and let them go out and do what they want to do and control the environment at home but be you know very kind of nonplused if they go and make a choice that you wouldn't make or whatever and just be curious about it and allow them the space to do that and you know you hope they come back and you know do it the way you taught them to um and sometimes they do and sometimes they don't and again every one of them is different in our case but as they get to a certain point and especially you know when they're with peers and friends and they're in social situations those things they have to learn for themselves and you have to allow them to I think it's so interesting so you have to let go a little bit oh let go and let God yeah I tell myself that is like a mantra you know and and and I I I remind myself of like my mom let me leave home she emancipated me and I was leing in Japan at 14 and there was no cell phones like I call you know can you imagine doing that for one of your children right now no and actually you know what it's so funny because I was having a conversation with my son about that he um he was complaining you know I have chores in my house you know kids have to do their chores so set the table wash the dishes you know now I make a point you know I cook at you know they come from school I'm cooking you know they so one has to set the table whoever sets the table the other has to wash the dishes and there is like you have to clean your room you have to do the basic stuff you know my daughter is doing amazingly she loves it and she's like really good and very proud of herself mom look how good I cleaned the dishes like she's really good and she's washing herself she's not putting it in the machine she wants to learn how to really wash it and and and do it right and she's very focused on it my son is like always like why do I have to do this you know so actually we had like a breakthrough this Christmas this this whole holiday season because I said he says to me I'm going to leave home when I'm 18 mom and I don't know if I'm going to go to college you didn't go to college you didn't go to school I'm going to just leave home when I'm 18 and I'm going to do this and I'm going to do that I'm like okay that's great so you're going to leave in your own apartment and who's going to cook for you and who's going to wash your dishes and who's going to clean your clothes who's going to do that and he's like for a second he's like because you're not going to have a chef and like a you know like and he was thinking for a second and I say well this is why when mommy tells you to do those things at home you know is because I want to give you more tools for your tool boox because when you learn how to do those things and they become second nature to you then you don't even have to think about it you become empowered to do it for yourself you don't depend on anybody and that's nothing it's amazing to be able to do that I said you know what made me feel so like strong and capable when I left my home because my mom taught me how to do those things so when I left home and I was leaving by myself at 14 years old I was first at 13 at 14 I moved to Japan but because I was leaving in the mod's apartment I was the only person there who knew how to clean cook iron do absolutely everything in the house because my mom taught me and it was easy for me I didn't think it was a struggle I was happy to do it and I was happy to to do it for the other girls that didn't know how to do it but if you're going to be planning on leaving on your own at 18 who do you think is going to do all those things for you so all I'm telling you is like take advantage that mommy's here for you right now and I'm able to teach you all those things and you can do it at your time I'm not telling you like at this time you have to wash the dishes so let me just help you I'm going to create a list for you and you just have to do them and you can decide if you want to wash clothes once or twice a week you can decide if you want to wash the dishes right after dinner or before you go to bed whatever you want but if you learn how to do those things you're going to see how empowered you're going to feel and the more tools we can put like the more things like the simple things like that that you can learn and that you can equip your tool box to do you're just going to be just that much like capable and and and there's nothing more fulfilling than feeling like you're able to do stuff that you're capable and then he looked at me and he's like okay mom so when we get back home you give me that list and I'm going to do it I'm like I wow I was going to say like he actually he actually receiv that I I think I have a breakthrough I think I got a breakthrough with the hormones are raging like whatever mom you know storming off like you can get you can get that reaction too that was good good job don't you think that was a good thing but but I used but you see it was a moment that I used what he said because when he thought to himself that's true how am I going to do all that stuff I said you don't want to live in like a you know a messy stinky place that is not clean like you know you want to like have you know so you need to know how to do this stuff and I think all I I see like all the things that happen in life like that like different tools we acquire you know even the job that I you know my job like all the tools that I've acquired in this job all the things that I've learned to do um that I don't know when I'm going to use I use them for my job but maybe I'm going to they going to be useful like in 20 years from my life sure but you came from very different circumstances it's the it's the Peril of success right like you and and the kid's dad like worked very hard to achieve all of these things in life and now they're reared in you know like an insane degree of privilege and it becomes more difficult to instill that kind of work ethic into somebody who you know grows up that way I think you're correct I think it becomes a lot more difficult but I think goes back to the discipline and it goes back to priorities and I think it for me it becomes about what kind of you know I I feel like I'm their Guardian because we don't possess our children right I mean we just come here they come through us but they're as much as our teachers as we are they're teachers and we're constantly learning and teaching you know in every relationship in our life and and I feel that we get this moment in time which is very short in a way that we get to influence our children because then they go I mean look at my parents they had 14 years to influence me then I was out in the world and I never went back and I keep remembering like what are all the things that if they wouldn't have taught me those things where would I be today and I'm so grateful for them for for those lessons and I feel like yes I grew up in very different circumstances than my kids and it is a bit more challenging to have them you know make their bed and wash the dishes and clean their you know when I have a person that can do it too but I make a point of me doing it so then they learn that oh Mommy's doing the dinner Mommy is making the breakfast mommy is so they're like weel you have to model and I feel like it's a different kind of modeling is it is the type of modeling that I prefer it's it's the type of modeling that I find to be the important type of modeling because that's the you know I mean what's Mo the most important thing you're going to do in your life I feel like raising children is is by far the most challenging thing I've ever done and the most uh fulfilling at the same time and you know but I feel that if if I if I don't do that if I don't equip my children to be good capable assets you know for themselves in their lives if they're not going to be then I fail I I feel yeah you haven't done your job then I haven't done my job I mean I feel that's my job I mean that's a job I do to kind of make a living so I can like you know put foot on the table and have but my real job as as I think as a as a mom and I chose to be a mom so I have to show up for my kids and I feel like this things that my you know I think is really what shaped me and what made me who I am today was definitely the upbringing that I had and and what my parents how they guided me and I feel like that's really important so I make that a priority in my life to make sure that my kids are going to have even though they don't have those same needs you know to do those things because my mom didn't have a a person she could pay to come clean the house we had to you clean the bathroom you clean the you know it was like a list all of us have to share between us who's going to do what and we grew up that way and it was kind of fun because you know I was always I always love the cleaning part you know I love organizing and cleaning I feel like a clean house is a clean mind is like a what's out is in you know if like if everything is organized outside I can think um and I tell my kids that and I feel that um if I can really get them to do those simple things in life you know and and learn those things and teach them how to be self-sufficient and capable human beings I feel like I've done my job and then I can rest and then whatever else they do the choices they make if they choose to eat the food that I fed them when they were little if now they want to go eat you know whatever or I mean it's going to be what they're going to do you know they're going to choose their friends hopefully they they choose wisely because in the end of the day they're going to be the one dealing with the consequences of their actions and I always tell them like listen you know you're going to go out there and you're going to make the Cho whatever choice you make there are going to be consequences you're dealing with those consequences me this is your life and sometimes they need to they need to make those mistakes and face those consequences like we had I mean how many mistakes that I mean I have and those those experiences are formative like I'm sure if you look in the rear view mirror and think about the panic attacks that you were having on airplanes and your inability to get into an elevator and you know this desire to jump off your balcony on some level you wouldn't wish that experience on anybody but you probably wouldn't wna change your experience either because it's set in motion this whole sensibility and way of being that you now have and I think with kids they regardless of whether they hear you in the moment or whether they go out into the world and make a bunch of mistakes like they come back yeah and whatever you taught them it's in there and at some point when they're ready or whatever like they return to it and you know and and I think to to trust that it's very important and I also feel like because if you try to overly control it you're going to drive them away absolutely and and you know I think for me I keep going back to me as a kid and the trust my parents had in me to let me go and I wouldn't be who I am today if it wasn't for them trusting in me and for all the mistakes that I've made and then had to come the other side and figure out for myself so I think it's important to give our children the Dignity of Their Own process you know because we had a dignity you know we have to go through our own process to become who we are and I think as long as they know that we are there and what what is our values you know is like those things that are important what is what is that we stand for what's important for us you know as as as as a as a value as a core value as as as a being a good human being and a good person and if you thought that your children and and they and they got it in the end of the day they're going to go out there in the world and they're going to have to make their mistakes and I I think the best thing you can do for them it's is just be there for them whenever they they come back and if they want your help you know and I think it's it's hard because you want to protect them like you can put Bobble wrap on them so like nothing will touch them and they will be safe but in the end of the day that's unrealistic and it's like it doesn't work anyway you know what I like this idea you know there's a metaphor of the butterfly imagine the caterpillar as she's transforming into becoming the butterfly she's you know eating eating all the you know until she finally starts spinning into a cocoon and and then she has to like go through that whole stous process if you ever seen like you know they turn into GP yeah but they're like but it's exactly it's just and it's really kind of like hard to like when they're coming out it's like really awkward and it looks like they're very strenuous and very difficult so if you go in there and you try to help them come out you're going to them you're going to the butterfly and she won't be able to have the strength she needs struggle is the struggle is what crucial to the the growth and you have to give them the Dignity of their own process you have to be and I and I keep reminding myself I cannot take away that opportunity for them because my parents gave me the opportunity for me to go through my own challenges and I grew and and I want my kids to have that same opportunity because whoever they're going to become is going to be based on what their choice is and hopefully I gave them enough good examples and and and good um values where they would make the choices that is right for them you know what is it that you want people to understand or take away from the new book and and how you are modeling this lifestyle um whether it's dietary changes Lifestyle Changes uh movement practices how can somebody who is interested in kind of leveling up across the board begin the process of of making those changes in their life you know it's funny you know because when I decided to do a cookbook I'm the farthest thing there is from a chef let me tell you something I I am not a chef let me just like let's be honest you've got a private Chef in home that person is taking care of everything not anymore I used to you don't anymore no I don't I don't it's no the last two years I don't you're cooking your own meals yes I'm cooking my own meals yeah I I grew up there way and I want like I told you like my priority is showing my kids what I believe it's important for them and and and I can't I can't say oh this is important and then I have and I'm not doing it you know what I mean so it has to be cohesive right and and I think that for me um really being like living what I believe is very important and I was showing my kids that this is important to me like the only way I'm going to show them that is by doing that so yes I had chefs and this is how I learn how to cook a lot of the things a lot of the recipes in the book are like inspired by the things that I created with the chefs that I throughout the years I had the opportunity to you know to really work with Incredible people incredible Chef people that love food as much as I do because I love food um but was really an idea for me to look I can say go and meditate go and exercise you know I believe meditation I believe rest I believe um exercise I believe nutrition all of those things are extremely important for you to be able to take kind of ownership of your health and really take care of yourself and have and work on just having a more clear mind and just feeling more connected to yourself I think all of those things are different aspects of it but the reason about the cookbook is quite frankly I was seeing kids were coming to our house and in play dates and and moms will come and be like how did you get my kid to eat broccoli or roasted vegetables or and it was like so simple and I was like oh maybe we can share how to make some simple recipes that are super easy you can make it like in 10 minutes and you know moms some you know you just sometimes feel overwhelmed and I know because life is busy there's so so much going on so I was like how can I help in this way and also I feel like food is a perfect time for you to practice being present and mindful because you can eat like on a rush and not being present and the food have a one effect in your body or you can do something which is what I talk about in the book is like every time I look at my food not only the act of preparing your food there so much loves and you're touching the food and you're connecting with your food that's one thing but even if you're not the one cooking your food just to take a moment to bless your food to acknowledge that that is something that is alive that you're taking it and you're that's also your source of life you know so it's kind of like connecting to the food in that way I think it it does something because everything is energy so you're having a transfer of energy with something and with the intention that you're eating it has a different I I feel huge you know when I start doing that does make a difference how he has a different just being present and being connected to what you're doing having gratitude for that moment and you get to do that three times a day you know I mean now I have a juice once a day but I still blast my juice but it's just kind of like it's just this book what I would like to to to for people to take is like it can be really simple it doesn't have to be complicated to to eat healthy and really like if you have plans you know my mom taught me you know since I was a kid like no food waste so how can we organize our meals so can there's a big thing about like reducing waste yeah there for me that's huge and also like me planning like if you're going to buy because or you know food sourcing that's huge it's not about having something with a lot of condiments and a lot of stuff it's just like keep it simple but buying really great quality products like if you can do that and then instead of like because a lot of people are like oh and then you buy organic and then you throw it out because it's like you know it spoils much faster and I'm like yeah but if you have a meal planning and I and I teach that I kind of give some suggestions in the book like my mom did that I grew up like that because she didn't have time you know she was working all the time so she had like in the fridge like what we going to have for the whole week so she would go to the groceries and she would buy and then the things were allowed to the next day so you would always know what we were eating and things that wouldn't be eaten could be easily transferred for the next day and be made into the next organiz so that nothing spoils and you're so nothing spoils and you never had food waste because you're always taking it from one day to the next so is never wasting you always	something that is um an opportunity that came along like I think in life you have these opportunities that either you take that train and then see where it goes you know and I never even believed that this was going to take me and I was going to be doing this for almost 30 years you know it's it's one of those things that I was like oh I'll start doing this job and you know send money home and help my sisters go through school and do all that and um and maybe in five years you know I'll get a house because I didn't even go to school you know I I I was emancipated at 14 yeah you were in Tokyo at 14 I was living in Japan without speaking English and J or Japanese and that's when I when I start learning the language of of of energy you know what I mean because you don't have to understand the language you just have to feel you know something there's a lot more that has been said without words you know sure so I start learning about that um but I think that I went through this journey of modeling which was something I thought was going to last five years and I was just going to help my family out for a little bit and it just kept going you know it just kept happening you know I I didn't even think you can	8	6	4	something that is um an opportunity that came along like I think in life you have these opportunities that either you take that train and then see where it goes you know and I never even believed that this was going to take me and I was going to be doing this for almost 30 years you know it's it's one of those things that I was like oh I'll start doing this job and you know send money home and help my sisters go through school and do all that and um and maybe in five years you know I'll get a house because I didn't even go to school you know I I I was emancipated at 14 yeah you were in Tokyo at 14 I was living in Japan without speaking English and J or Japanese and that's when I when I start learning the language of of of energy you know what I mean because you don't have to understand the language you just have to feel you know something there's a lot more that has been said without words you know sure so I start learning about that um but I think that I went through this journey of modeling which was something I thought was going to last five years and I was just going to help my family out for a little bit and it just kept going you know it just kept happening you know I I didn't even think you can	yeah	6,4,8	2,1,5	6	4	8	2	1	5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjK5ahIgsHA	4,193	rjK5ahIgsHA	2024-03-25 00:00:00	the choices that you're making are really either supporting you or not straight from the pages of Victoria Secret please welcome jaelle bunin gazelle bunin gazelle has walked in nearly 500 fashion shows and great the covers of more than 1,200 different magazines on paper like you're perhaps highly unrelatable you know what it is it's a character that's the job I do to kind of make a living so I can like you know put foot on the table raising children is is by far the most challenging thing I've ever done it's a different kind of modeling is the type of modeling that I prefer food is a perfect time for you to practice being present and mindful because it can be really simple it doesn't have to be complicated to eat healthy nature is just like it's me instead of like trying to control nature we need to just like take a humble pill and and learn from the Big Mama [Music] today's episode is brought to you by the awesome organizations that make this show [Music] possible so nice to meet you nice to meet you too so excited to have you here today yes when this opportunity presented itself I was like of course I want to talk to Jazelle and then I had my own like sort of mini panic attack we're going to get into panic attacks I'm like what could I possibly talk to this person about the alltime great super model of all time everybody knows this on paper like you're perhaps highly unrelatable but then the more you dig into your story and the more I kind of learned about your Arc and your past and what brought you to this place there's so much that's deeply relatable and your kind of transformation story is remarkably similar to mine although you did yours at like 23 I was 40 um but there's so much in there so I thought it would be cool to kind of um talk a little bit about what it was like what happened and how you made these changes in your life because I think you're in this interesting new season right now where despite the fact that you've been this Wellness Advocate and wellness Warrior for a long time my sense is that there's a there's a more full Embrace of of that now with kind of how you see yourself and what's important to you a well thank you for the introduction you know the funny thing is I you know people's you know what I did for a living is something that kind of just happened to me at 14 years old you know it was it was like hey do you want to be a model and I thought oh I can help my family you know I can do make a living and and help you know I have five sisters and and all that so modeling to me is something that is um an opportunity that came along like I think in life you have these opportunities that either you take that train and then see where it goes you know and I never even believed that this was going to take me and I was going to be doing this for almost 30 years you know it's it's one of those things that I was like oh I'll start doing this job and you know send money home and help my sisters go through school and do all that and um and maybe in five years you know I'll get a house because I didn't even go to school you know I I I was emancipated at 14 yeah you were in Tokyo at 14 I was living in Japan without speaking English and J or Japanese and that's when I when I start learning the language of of of energy you know what I mean because you don't have to understand the language you just have to feel you know something there's a lot more that has been said without words you know sure so I start learning about that um but I think that I went through this journey of modeling which was something I thought was going to last five years and I was just going to help my family out for a little bit and it just kept going you know it just kept happening you know I I didn't even think you can have longevity in this career because it's not what I what I saw really around me happening um but you know I kept it kept working out so I kept doing it and it was kind of a Mindless thing you know when you got in the hamster wheel and I think we do that sometimes in life and you're so young you don't know and you Liv the fast life and all of that so in my early 20s I um developed you know anxiety and panic attacks and all that because you know when you drink a bottle of wine and that because you like I used to be a smoker so I smoke I can't even imagine I used to smoke it feels like a whole different life you know but um it was the late 90s and there was a lot of um drugs and fashion and all that so I thought I was saying just because I was like having some wine and smoking cigarettes everybody was doing way worse things than yeah I'm sure you've seen a lot I've seen a lot yeah that's a whole other show about that that's a whole other story but yeah so um you know so that was the beginning for me to start reconnecting with myself because I think when I was 14 and I got that train my only focus was like how can I be the best that I can do on this and and and that was my focus and and I didn't meure any sacrifice he was like if I had to work 360 days a year and I felt like I couldn't say no because people were giving me a chance and then I was like in this really overdrive uh and burn down my adrenals I found out later when I found this amazing natural Doctor Who told me like listen you don't have any more adrenal they're shut down because you burn them basically I'm like but I'm only 22 you know so um basically I had to change the habits that I you know smoking a pack of cigarettes drinking alcohol every day to myself down coffee all day to keep myself up and also going from you know one time zone to the next I was three days in Paris two days in London one day in New York going back to you know my life was in a living in a suitcase and of course your nervous system is going to freak out you know and the way I was eating it was very you know anything that was in front of me I was just like not mindful about anything you know I was just kind of um like a Workhorse and when that happen to me is when I you know I come from a family that is very my my grandmother had a tea for everything so we never had we were not the kind of you know you get sick let me see this herbal remedy that we you know so yeah you grew up in kind of a small village right in Brazil your grandmother was cultivating herbs and she was the person that everyone would go to for their remedy so you have this sort of background and connection you know with the Earth exactly that you know is kind of lingering in the back of your mind when you're just you know hammering nails and and you know drinking wine and living that life but you're young it's like that's kind of what your 20s are for kind of and you're you're on this like Jet Plane I mean figuratively and literally like your career's taking off on top of that a people pleasing tendency where you feel like you have to say yes to everything and you're just go go go go go yeah and and I think but that was a big wakeup call for me because I think sometimes you know you have to reach rock bottom and when I had that those anxiety and they start becoming like almost CRI because I couldn't get on planes he was just you know I was going to all these doctors and they were like you have to take this stuff and I was just afraid of taking anything because I've never taken anything you know I was a there was a t for for this there you know my grandmother wasn't there so finally you know I wasn't going to take any medication because just the idea of taking something I was like I was normal before how can I go back being what I was you know like I I I didn't have these issues so what's happening long story short I found this doctor I had to replace my habits it was that simple I had to replace these habits that had created the reality I was living at that moment which was you know um really killing me in in so many ways you know killing my spirit killing my and and I replace it with good habits so now instead of smoking cigarettes and having a mocha frappuccino in the morning I'll would go out and do breath work and go out for a run and you know I replace in one day I gave up everything because he he looked at me he said jelle he called me Adrenalina he says do you want to live and I said I do he's like so we going to CH change my diet and that's for the first time in my life that I realized that I I was really like the one who got myself there and I was the only person who could get myself out by the choices that I was making so I had to take full responsibility for what I had created but it was in my power only in my power to change that there were no doctors nobody who was going to save me I had to change um you know the choices I was making and I and I did that and it was incredible because after over a year and a half like really struggling with anxiety and panic attacks and all that within 3 months I was like I never had another incident and it was you know and and once you start meditating I mean at that point this was 20 years ago right it wasn't like people were talking about meditation and yoga any other that um it was just um you know when you sit in silence and you and you reflect which is what we don't really give ourselves time to do because the world is so fastpaced and everything is catching your attention is trying to throw you off your Center you know everything is so busy it's like an overload of information to have that space to go inside and reflect and look and really take a step back I think that was the biggest blessing of my life so really I think what could have killed me is what gave me a whole new life and it was amazing because since then like everything changed like I realized that food is my medicine I realized that I am the director of my own movie that I'm creating my reality based on the choices that I'm making but what I'm choosing to not the people I'm choosing to have around in my life but what type of energy what kind of thoughts I allow to what am I feeding you know what kind of thoughts am I so all of that so that became like a big um changing of seasons for me in my early 20s what were those first couple weeks like if you went completely cold turkey on all of these bad habits I think it was like a drug addict I never was a I guess I was a drug etic only legal drugs because I guess alcohol is a drug and so is cigarettes nicotine and all that and caffeine and all that but they're like socially accepted but I tell you that I had the worst migraine I mean I felt like the I mean maybe that's what a person who's going like you have gone to to rehab right so I'm I don't know what you felt I would love to hear but I for me it was like right I mean I don't know about that sub it's the only way I know how to do it though I don't understand how people kind of phase out of stuff like you have to for me you have to draw the line and step over it and it's going to suck and you're going to be uncomfortable for a while while um but you know that on the other side of that lies all of this opportunity and possibility um but uh and that's what happened to me I think there was that because what I knew I knew that what I was and what if you do what you've always done you're going to get what you've always gotten is that simple and what I realized at that moment that what I what I created for myself was not what I wanted I needed to a drastic change and then he was like draw the line stopped everything in one day and the migraines and all of that like the consequences of what I had done I had to deal with them you know it took me like two weeks I think I was like having the worst migraines just because I didn't know if it was the nicotine the caffeine the alcohol I don't know what it was but it was all of it together and um but then it was amazing because from that experience I I became so much stronger and I and there are lots of different things that happen in my life after that I feel like every time we get tested it's like the Super Mario you know like the little video game when you go to do the big boss like you go through all the phases and you go to level one the big boss is like one it's okay to defeat that one but then the second one is like a tough for big boss and then the third one is you know it's like it's life I feel like that's what life is you get like the new tools so you get equipped and then you go to the next challenge that is a bigger one and then is a bigger one I feel like that's why we're here you know to keep seeing how we can expand how much more we can to grow to evolve to expand to see how strong and how creative and how you know how can how much we can experience of all this wonder how did you how did you plug that into the fast-paced life of of your modeling career because it's one thing if you're living a more kind of grounded atome lifestyle where you can control your food and your environment a little bit better but when you're flying all over the world and you're on these sets and there's craft service and it's junk food like you have to be way ahead of the curve to prepare everything to have everything kind of organized for yourself because how do you you if you're in just hotels all over the place and you arrive at midnight like how are you getting your you know like how did so how did you manage all of that you have to be very discipline I think you know when I I did this book called lessons and um and it was like everything starts to discipline that was like my first chapter and that's what I believe you have to decide you have and then you have to have the discipline to follow through so once you realize that these choices that you are making are having a positive impact in your life you want to continue doing them you know what I mean you don't want to fall back and just something that it didn't feel good that's your past like you don't want to go back there again so you're going to stick to the plan like this is what's working and this is what made me feel good again so I'm going to stick to this and of course it's not 100% you have to be compassionate with yourself too and say you I'll be like you know life is hard as it is you need to bit yourself in the head sometimes if you go and you oh you know I had like um I was exhausted I had like a banana bread or something or I had you know but I think you realize that the choices that you're making are are really either supporting you or not you know supporting you living the life that making you feel good and living the life that you want and is taking to the direction where you want to go or not and then it's just kind of an easier choice to make right and then I feel like when I go to the jobs you know I got to the point in my life where people know how I eat and you know I can tell people like listen this is what I want I want you got extensive riter yeah I kind of you know because I was already working for so long so I I have you know I got to the I guess really the privilege to be able to to kind of say like this is the kind of things that I would like to eat so please at the job you know if you're working 10 12 hours in a studio can we have these things available you know what I mean so then it was easier to keep the food healthy you know um because I think that's so important and then just to say I feel like and then saying no to those things you know like coffee or alcohol or things that I was just so used to because I was still in that same environment the environment hadn't changed I had changed but all of that was around me still but then it was just a choice of saying you know I feel great and I haven't drank alcohol in over two years now too this is something you know I even when I went back drinking after it was very moderate you know I was still like like I would drink socially sometimes you know peer pressure sometimes like oh come on have a drink you know and then you like feel like especially in my world I mean everyone pretty much is like socially having a drink so I would be like okay I'll have a drink but then he got to a point that I was like and that was like 20 years later because it just happened over two years ago I was like I don't want to drink like I don't care what anyone thinks and I don't care if they have Fe peer pressure I'm going to have my Min tea my cam tea and if they want to drink I'm not making anyone feel bad about drinking they can do whatever they want this is their Temple you know this is my temple I get to choose and they shouldn't make me feel bad that I don't want to you know so um then I kind of stood up for myself I think that happens after your 40s like you care less about what other people think and um wait till you're 50 oh my God I can't wait for that I'm gonna like he's he's gonna be amazing but I think the thing you mentioned you mentioned like being directed and and and being kind of dedicated to your path and and and I feel like that's the underappreciated aspect of of understanding you and your career a lot of people arrive in New York City every single day with a similar dream or ambition that you had when you were a young person and you arrived there and a lot of those people are very beautiful you're beautiful but that doesn't tell the story of how you translated like an opportunity into the career that you had and I think between the lines there is an intense work ethic and a very intentional approach to what you were doing like how did you apply those skills like what is the differentiator between you and the career that you've enjoyed versus you know the other beautiful people who aren't enjoying the same kind of career you can't and you're not allowed to say luck or you're you know no I don't believe I don't believe in luck I don't believe in luck I believe in hard work and but I believe in um I mean I think discipline but I also believe that I always treated everyone the way I like to be treated and I've always was appreciative I have this immense sense of gratitude for just being there so even though you know people were like oh you know you you know when I was 19 I was like I want the model of you know the model of the year and everybody's like how does it feel to be it didn't really it doesn't matter to me because quite frankly I never saw myself as a motel it's just not something I didn't drink the Kool-Aid I didn't believe because I was a model or because I I became successful in this job like I was better than anybody I just and I didn't believe that I believe that I just got to learn that craft really well and I understood what the job entail and like I learned how to do the job really well but by no means is what defined me it's just something I did it's not it's not who I am I don't know if you know it's like I go there I had this opportunity at you know 13 14 years old when I finally left home and and and and St pursued this career that really I thought it was just really I did it for the money I did it because I was like what else am I going to do at 14 years old that I can help my family you know I don't have any other jobs that are offering me an opportunity so I'll take this one so for me it was really like a job so I never like it didn't kind of Define me I kind of did it my way like I never became like you know it was like oh it needs to be glamorous I was never glamorous I'm a jeans and t-shirt type of girl like I if I needed to go to parties or hang out with this type of people I never did any of that like I went there I did my job I did the best that I could I never was late in my life for my jobs like never showed up like late I was there before everyone I was there 100% you know I I I just wanted to make sure that if people were booking me and they they were trusting in me that I was going to show up and deliver you know and I think that's kind of what it was I did it my way you know and it didn't broke me kind of Cu I saw you know people in this business you know you can lose yourself because if you drink the Kool-Aid if you start thinking you know like you lose yourself in it I never lost myself it was just a job and it's still just a job I can't even believe I'm still doing it sometimes I go in and I do it you it's not it's not what I do full- time anymore but it's just one of those things that you know I got to do this I got to make a career out of it and got to make a great living and help my family and I I have wonderful you know I got to travel the world and learn different languages and and and all of that and that's how I see it I don't see it as a you know I don't see myself you're not defined by it you're not you're not caught up in in the kind of dark underbelly of that very strange world this whole world is like almost like a parallel reality for me you know what I mean if something is like a switch on button I go there I do my job I take my picture I turn it off I go home and I have the same friends I have my my family I'm very close with my family but I think you're very good at seeing opportunities when they arise and you tell a little story in in in the new book about being 14 and on route to Tokyo and your parents gave you your dad gave you a little bit of money that was intended for getting a cab from that's the first day arve in s Paulo and instead of using that money oh it was you were super young right so you had a little bit of money to take a tab and you had the presence of mind to say this money would be better spent buying some clothes so I can do better in my auditions or whatnot um which isn't like that's not normal like that's somebody who's thinking ahead who's planning long term who's understanding that they have an opportunity in front of them and trying to figure out how to make the most out of it with limited resources and I think that speaks to or says a lot about your sensibility or your perspective as a business person yeah I mean it's so interesting to see it that way I mean I for me at that moment in time you know I I I just felt like I did something else than that you know that was one of the things and now that you're saying that I actually did that throughout because I bought my first apartment when I was 19 years old and when everybody was buying you know designer bags all the models and you know like remember I didn't know I was going to last in this business I thought like I didn't go to school I didn't go to high school I didn't you know I I left I I went to work and whenever I go I go back I thought I was going to be a farmer or something because I just always love the land and but I I didn't think like you know like where am I going to go from here so I have to make sure that I have at least a place to live I'm a cancer so I want to have like a stable home and when I was 19 you know people start flying me first class because I was like the model of the year right saw all the clients now are paying me first class I was exchanging those tickets for Coach classes because I was every two three days in a different country and instead of paying um my you know a rent in an apartment I pay I put down a down payment for an apartment and then I was paying my mortgage instead of paying rent and you're 19 and I was 19 so I I own my first apartment as 19 years old it was like a in in New York City it was like facing a wall of another building mind you he was like a very apartment you know that does require some maturity and some long-term thinking well well because I just thought to myself like you know I don't know how long I'm going to stay here you know I i' I at least I have to have a place to live if I like I'm not going to live empty-handed you know what I mean like what do I care about a bag or like what is that going to give me it's not going to be a roof over my head I need to make sure that I have that I can spend in the right places but I think that sense came from my mother because we grew up you know my mother was a cashier in the bank my father had like lots of different jobs like he had a real estate job but he was you know my mom they literally we we were like really simple people and grew up in two bedrooms with six girls and and and money was all always tight so I learned how to is the same thing in the book is like how do you prepare how do you not waste food I mean everything is like I think in my life I was kind of like raised that way you know what I mean kind of plan ahead like for tomorrow so you make sure that you have like food for everyone like like we're going to reuse the meat we cook on the barbecue and we're going to put it in the rice we're going to have carera so we're going to have an abundant meal because we have the rest of the you know what I mean it's kind of like that it's like you put money in the bank so when you retire you have something to to live off when you can no longer work the same thing I feel about food like you eat the right food so when you're older you you're able to have the energy and your body is functioning because you made the right choices so for me it's the same thing you know it's kind of making like just being kind of what is necessary here like do I really need this what do I need more do I need a roof over my head or do I need this this bags and this stuff do I need to take a taxi when I arrive to the model apartment when I'm 14 even though I never been to the city or can I take the subway and save the money so I can get the clothes for the casting and maybe I can get a job it's like it's kind of thinking like with the resources that I have right now what is the smartest how is the smartest way to use them I guess if you're like me never without a water bottle let's get it right people allow me to rock your world with my new favorite toy that's actually not a toy at all it's a non-negotiable essential camel backs Podium steel 100% % leak proof water bottle emphasis on leak proof for all 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it's you know what it is it's a character I always call call it her because I think being a MTO what I understood as being a motto is to play a character in a silent movie you know you get to experience all these different charact all these different aspects of of of being a woman let's say because one designer wants you to be more androgynous you know one designer was you know I remember diding a Balin Saga campaign I was like they made me a boy I was like literally like a week I was like a man a boy and in one I was like the sexy Versace campaign like you know like with big hair and like you know pushup bra you know so it was kind of like I got to play from the the androgynous girl to the very sexy to the tomb boy like I got to you know I mean you should see I don't know if you ever saw my book the other one that was like the 20 years I did a 20 well I watched the video that you did where you kind of went through it and you were talking about what was going on with you with each of those photographs yeah so it's it's it's it's really about kind of playing these different roles but it's just instead of you talking like you would be in a movie you're just you got to make the image that picture that one capture image to to it's a performance art it's a performance art but it's such a weird world I know that like Alexander McQueen he was like he was really the Catalyst right he was the guy who gave me the chance you know he gave me the the chance but when you watch his shows or some of these other shows like the designs are are stunning and gorgeous but they're also totally inaccessible it's like who wears this does anybody is there anybody in the world that even wear I mean if you're Lady Gaga I guess or somebody like that but like yeah it's a fantasy and so it's curious like how does that translate into I guess it's just how you feel and how you think about a particular designer or a brand and not so much about directly selling those designs to the person who's going to the department store or the boutique right yeah they're not thinking I don't even understand the business model of the whole thing yeah I me neither to be honest with you but I think it's a really I mean I think it has changed a lot uh since I started like I see a big shift because I think before there was a lot more creativity there was allowed a lot more creativity I think you know McQueen or JN galano you know the shows and stuff like you were like in a world like sure and the photographers being rock stars themselves oh yeah and and it was a I think it was a moment in time where there was so much less about selling but it was much more about the the inspiration and the aspir aspiring you know the aspiration of creating like a fantasy and like a and it was a lot of fun then I have to say at that time because I would have been dead I wouldn't have survived it I would have gone all in I would have been at every after hours party it would have been a disaster you see I was in bed like studying my astrology books like by 10 you know that was me I was like by 10 I was like oh no I have to go I was like I have to start early so I can go to bed early so for me it was a a different thing but um you know but I guess for me I also fell very responsible because I didn't want to one of the The Guiding lights for me I really believe was my parents because I saw how hard they work and I didn't want to disappoint them so I think part of like me being so stay on the line was like I'm not disappointing my parents I don't care if they're not here they are going to know what I'm doing like I remember part of the reason why I got so freaked out about the McQueen show and they sent me out like without a top because I couldn't speak English and they didn't even do a feeding anyway so then I was I was like oh my God if my parents see this they're GNA make me go back home and then I you know what is it like when you go internet but there was no internet in 1997 19 it wasn't so thank God because they didn't even saw that otherwi they would have been like what what are you doing I be like I don't know and you have five siblings right I have five sisters I'm a middle child I have two older sisters and two younger sisters and I'm a twin MH in the middle so we like the the sandwich like the cheese in the sandwich being Brazilian uh you're connected to the Amazon and to climate change issues and you've done a lot in terms of your environmental advocacy and clean water initiatives talk a little bit about how that began and and what that looked like now you know I um I've always been a big um basically like a child of nature I always tell my children when they ask you know what's your religion they say Mom we don't go to church I say you know what you're in church every day I say I say what do I say when people ask what my what my religion is I say love is your religion and nature is your church that's your Cathedral that's the big church that's our Temple you know so you honor your temple you love your temple you CU that's the only reason why we are all alive because this whole ecosystem is making it possible you know to grow our food to give us to provide us with all the things we need to survive so U and that's how I grew up I felt that way and especially having a grandmother that everything was from the earth you know she grew everything she ate and and uh you know the Earth was giving us the herbs that we needed to like when we fell ill and and I grew up in that way so when you grew up in that way and you grew up running around bare feet you know I come from a small village and anytime you want to eat something you grab there was like a tangerine tree or like a orange tree or is a plum tree and you just go and pick up the fruit from the tree we never bought fruits from the supermarket you know you go either you had it in your backyard or your neighbor had it or the other neighbor you know somebody had the fruit he wanted to eat you just go grab it so I think when you leave with that connection to Nature you have a different appreciation it's like so I feel like nature is just like it's it's it's me like I think we are n you know we are that and I think this connection from nature for me is not something it's just something I've always known you know is how I grew up and so for me um taking care of which I love which is nature is natural um so the but the first time I realized there was really problems happening is when I went to actually spend some time uh with the indigenous people in shingu area of the Amazon in the 2004 and that's when the first time I realized you know pesticide what's what pesticides were doing where mining was doing how they were contaminating the rivers and basically all the indigenous tribes they were living and depending on the that water they were getting sick and even though they were living very wholesomely you know with nature and you know by the impact that the big farms and different Mining and all that stuff was having um was really um having a really terrible impact in their in their their livelihoods and and that's when the first time I was like I need to do something about it and that's when I started like I had a flipflop line at the time in Brazil and we gave a percentage you know to that's actually a funny story the the the indigenous people and I was like I wonder what they would do with this with this funds but it was like a group that helped indigenous in Brazil and the funny enough when I did when I turned 40 this was in 2004 so I was like 24 cut to when I'm 40 2020 I was 40 um I wanted to do something for my 40th birthday and I was like oh I want to plant some trees in the in in the Amazon and how we going to do it so we looked around for who can help us do that and we contacted the the people that are working with the indigenous people that we knew in in Brazil and they're like we have the largest seed bank in the Amazon and we started with the money with the whole program that you gave in 2004 that money that was for the sale of the flipflops now years later they had the largest seed bank of you know the indigenous they they they collected the larger seed bank and this is how with that whole group of people we basically planted over 300,000 trees in that area of the Amazon so that was like years later so that's just how funny how life goes but for me because I was so connected to nature and I always wanted to help and my dad always said you know water is the most important thing and of course I saw that with the indigenous people because that's how they were all getting sick because all the the you know residue of Mining and and and pesticides were going into their water in my little village we were having a lot of problems with agriculture as well where there was a lot of runoffs from Roundup and all the stuff that they use in agriculture all the pesticides and stuff and it was getting a lot of people sick so we actually did the AGA limpa program in 200 I think it was 20 the N or I don't remember when we started but it was like a long time ago and I funded it and my dad who's also a sociologist worked with the university and we and we basically regenerated the whole area of the river that was kind of you know getting the water to the city and we were able to clean it it took us like a few years to do it you know it was pretty simple because all we had to do I mean it was not simple my dad is the one who did the work it was simpler for me I just kind of funded it but he was there every day he had to work with I don't know how many farmers you had to take their pie of land and kind of grow the native species Forest you know the native Forest back so then the there's a buffer there was a buffer and then the root systems could could filtrate it before all that stuff would go into the river and then that was the agal limpa project and that was one of the projects we did to clean the water and anyway so there's lots of different things but in overall thing my my thing is you know we got to take care of Mother Earth she takes care of us you know when people say to me oh we're going to save the planet I say you're that's such an ego thing you know as humans we think we're going to save anything the planets is in her own process of evolution this is a you know it's I mean dinosaurs were here before us and you know lur I mean so many different civilizations the planet will be fine that's what I always say I say please don't fool yourself I think we really saving ourselves we need to yeah I say there's no Sav we need re ourselves back yeah this is really about us protecting the resources and and taking care of what we really need for our survival because once we are gone the planet is going to regenerate I mean I've seen this over and over again the planet regenerates itself so quickly you know because it's it's just a very intelligent we need to learn from nature instead of like trying to control nature we need to just like take a humble pill and and learn from the Big Mama we've moved so far away from that and we do live in this dualistic mindset where we think there's you know our environments and then there's nature or there's us and that's outside um but really understanding that you're never out of nature as you as you said um I think it's the first point of trying to really deepen your relationship with the world in which you live we all live and share and I think when it comes to the Amazon like we all hear about deforestation and all the you know clearing that's going on for cattle grazing and the strip mining and all the stuff that you mentioned but it's an abstraction especially for you know people in North America like we know what's going on we know it's bad but I've never visited there like I've never seen it myself and you being Brazilian gives you kind of a deeper appreciation and understanding of the extent of it you know I think it's how people tell the story because I think it's a lot deeper than you know I think people like depending on the industry that wants to benefit from something that tell the story and they say okay this is what we're going to do is about the cing oh yeah it's so crazy a lot of NOS go in there and they say we're going to have an NGO because we're going to like protect Amazon but they're meantime they're the owners of the bigger paper company that comes from the Amazon they are just not you know what I mean so there it's not not all is as it seems no it's it's a very it's a wild wild west there and one of the biggest you know I've been there a few times and also done a lot of um just kind of like talking to people and understanding what happens there and a lot of the you know there's ancient Woods there and a lot of that goes to Europe so like what a lot of the the cattle for example is what they use to kind of occupy the land but what they're really after which is really valuable there is like gold and Min m you know the the rare medals the rare medals yeah the rare medals and the gold and all that stuff that's in there that's what interest this like you know the different um countries let's say they are not brail when they and because it's so corrupt unfortunately you know Brazil is very corrupt the politicians are very corrupt what happens is they sell those rights to those countries and then we have what we have and then the cattle like in the end they just kind of put them there because they have to occupy the land after they REM because they have to enter if you go there after they removed everything because they have to remove the value the value then they then they put all the cows there that's what they do so they remove the ancient wood they they remove the precious metals and and but they have to get there because if you fly over it it mean you're flying for hours over just a Green carpet so for you to have access to that you have to you can't just like clear cut because it grows so what they do to keep the the the forest from growing they just throw because it's very fertile the soil as soon as you cut because imagine that soil is been there like receiving all those back healthy bacteria from the leaves falling super fertile So within like three days you can Grass Grows Right and then in order for the trees not to keep growing because if you just leave abandon that's what's going to happen the birds are going to carry the seeds they're going to drop the seeds they're going to things are going to start growing again and then they won't have access you know so they kind of it's just like a cycle like but what is really after what they're really after it is the big stuff is the is the and and it's not unfortunately you know it's h it's so sad you know is greed mhm in the end of the day is greed and is greed by people that you know they don't have those natural resources where they are and and they understand the situation in Brazil and how corrupt the this the the system is you know with the politicians and they come and they they just buy those right they exploited they exploited in in every way but and and in the end of the day it's um I think greed is the biggest dis disease of of our time you're not going to get an argument from me on that over the last decade of Hosting this podcast my mission has been to engage in what I consider to be critically important conversations about the things that matter most in life things like Health relationships growth purpose and service while I'm immensely grateful for the growth of this show I've also come to realize that my voice alone is not enough this mission is not and cannot be a solitary Endeavor so I wanted to find a way to help amplify other meaningful voices and the result is voicing change media this beautiful Consortium of thinkers of storytellers artists and Visionaries all committed to fostering meaningful exchanges intentionally curated for those committed to the path of self-discovery this 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their best interest from a wellness perspective I think the number one thing I feel is like monkey see monkey does right I think you have to be the example you have to leave it um cuz I think whatever you say is one thing and whatever you do you they need to kind they need to whatever you say whatever you do they have to be the same thing right sympatico yeah they have to be sympatico and um and that's what it is and and I think for the kids for my kids were were a lot easier because I was home a lot with them so I was you know taking them to school every day making their breakfast you know just having my Gardens at home growing the food so when the kids would come for play dates at the house you know my kids were grabbing like everything raw cucumbers carrots like green beans they were just grabbing it from the garden and like collecting things and putting in the basket it was like a game for them and it was like oh friends are coming over why are we going to grab for the for to Door picnic outside and then so they grew up in that way you know they they uh so it was easier for me to feed them healthier food and and and and explain to them you know we always compost it we had bees at our house um so you know they they were learning about you know when The Beekeeper would come and they explain you know how much be how much honey can you take and how much money how much honey do you leave for the bees and how does a the how does a queen bee work and all the so they were they're emotionally connected they were emotionally connected they were part of that like I was as a kid so um so for them is really natural and they were also homeschooled for the last three years um during the you know the whole pandemic thing I and we moved from Boston to Tampa so um it was a whole new world for them so I I homeschooled them and now they just went back to school but I have to tell you I see a huge difference especially because my son is 14 now so he wants to kind of push back this is what I'm getting at oh yeah well how old kid well they range from 28 to 16 and each one of there's four and each of them is different um but it's a delicate dance because you know we raised our kids similarly um but they reach a certain age and part of individuation and maturing is taking ownership for your own choices and understanding what you stand for and what you don't and in order to really Define that and hone that you have to go out and kind of push the envelope and try new things otherwise it's just something you're doing because that's the way you were raised and that's what your parents told you as opposed to really owning it for yourself and so so we have learned that you have to have the brains very loose and and let them go out and do what they want to do and control the environment at home but be you know very kind of nonplused if they go and make a choice that you wouldn't make or whatever and just be curious about it and allow them the space to do that and you know you hope they come back and you know do it the way you taught them to um and sometimes they do and sometimes they don't and again every one of them is different in our case but as they get to a certain point and especially you know when they're with peers and friends and they're in social situations those things they have to learn for themselves and you have to allow them to I think it's so interesting so you have to let go a little bit oh let go and let God yeah I tell myself that is like a mantra you know and and and I I I remind myself of like my mom let me leave home she emancipated me and I was leing in Japan at 14 and there was no cell phones like I call you know can you imagine doing that for one of your children right now no and actually you know what it's so funny because I was having a conversation with my son about that he um he was complaining you know I have chores in my house you know kids have to do their chores so set the table wash the dishes you know now I make a point you know I cook at you know they come from school I'm cooking you know they so one has to set the table whoever sets the table the other has to wash the dishes and there is like you have to clean your room you have to do the basic stuff you know my daughter is doing amazingly she loves it and she's like really good and very proud of herself mom look how good I cleaned the dishes like she's really good and she's washing herself she's not putting it in the machine she wants to learn how to really wash it and and and do it right and she's very focused on it my son is like always like why do I have to do this you know so actually we had like a breakthrough this Christmas this this whole holiday season because I said he says to me I'm going to leave home when I'm 18 mom and I don't know if I'm going to go to college you didn't go to college you didn't go to school I'm going to just leave home when I'm 18 and I'm going to do this and I'm going to do that I'm like okay that's great so you're going to leave in your own apartment and who's going to cook for you and who's going to wash your dishes and who's going to clean your clothes who's going to do that and he's like for a second he's like because you're not going to have a chef and like a you know like and he was thinking for a second and I say well this is why when mommy tells you to do those things at home you know is because I want to give you more tools for your tool boox because when you learn how to do those things and they become second nature to you then you don't even have to think about it you become empowered to do it for yourself you don't depend on anybody and that's nothing it's amazing to be able to do that I said you know what made me feel so like strong and capable when I left my home because my mom taught me how to do those things so when I left home and I was leaving by myself at 14 years old I was first at 13 at 14 I moved to Japan but because I was leaving in the mod's apartment I was the only person there who knew how to clean cook iron do absolutely everything in the house because my mom taught me and it was easy for me I didn't think it was a struggle I was happy to do it and I was happy to to do it for the other girls that didn't know how to do it but if you're going to be planning on leaving on your own at 18 who do you think is going to do all those things for you so all I'm telling you is like take advantage that mommy's here for you right now and I'm able to teach you all those things and you can do it at your time I'm not telling you like at this time you have to wash the dishes so let me just help you I'm going to create a list for you and you just have to do them and you can decide if you want to wash clothes once or twice a week you can decide if you want to wash the dishes right after dinner or before you go to bed whatever you want but if you learn how to do those things you're going to see how empowered you're going to feel and the more tools we can put like the more things like the simple things like that that you can learn and that you can equip your tool box to do you're just going to be just that much like capable and and and there's nothing more fulfilling than feeling like you're able to do stuff that you're capable and then he looked at me and he's like okay mom so when we get back home you give me that list and I'm going to do it I'm like I wow I was going to say like he actually he actually receiv that I I think I have a breakthrough I think I got a breakthrough with the hormones are raging like whatever mom you know storming off like you can get you can get that reaction too that was good good job don't you think that was a good thing but but I used but you see it was a moment that I used what he said because when he thought to himself that's true how am I going to do all that stuff I said you don't want to live in like a you know a messy stinky place that is not clean like you know you want to like have you know so you need to know how to do this stuff and I think all I I see like all the things that happen in life like that like different tools we acquire you know even the job that I you know my job like all the tools that I've acquired in this job all the things that I've learned to do um that I don't know when I'm going to use I use them for my job but maybe I'm going to they going to be useful like in 20 years from my life sure but you came from very different circumstances it's the it's the Peril of success right like you and and the kid's dad like worked very hard to achieve all of these things in life and now they're reared in you know like an insane degree of privilege and it becomes more difficult to instill that kind of work ethic into somebody who you know grows up that way I think you're correct I think it becomes a lot more difficult but I think goes back to the discipline and it goes back to priorities and I think it for me it becomes about what kind of you know I I feel like I'm their Guardian because we don't possess our children right I mean we just come here they come through us but they're as much as our teachers as we are they're teachers and we're constantly learning and teaching you know in every relationship in our life and and I feel that we get this moment in time which is very short in a way that we get to influence our children because then they go I mean look at my parents they had 14 years to influence me then I was out in the world and I never went back and I keep remembering like what are all the things that if they wouldn't have taught me those things where would I be today and I'm so grateful for them for for those lessons and I feel like yes I grew up in very different circumstances than my kids and it is a bit more challenging to have them you know make their bed and wash the dishes and clean their you know when I have a person that can do it too but I make a point of me doing it so then they learn that oh Mommy's doing the dinner Mommy is making the breakfast mommy is so they're like weel you have to model and I feel like it's a different kind of modeling is it is the type of modeling that I prefer it's it's the type of modeling that I find to be the important type of modeling because that's the you know I mean what's Mo the most important thing you're going to do in your life I feel like raising children is is by far the most challenging thing I've ever done and the most uh fulfilling at the same time and you know but I feel that if if I if I don't do that if I don't equip my children to be good capable assets you know for themselves in their lives if they're not going to be then I fail I I feel yeah you haven't done your job then I haven't done my job I mean I feel that's my job I mean that's a job I do to kind of make a living so I can like you know put foot on the table and have but my real job as as I think as a as a mom and I chose to be a mom so I have to show up for my kids and I feel like this things that my you know I think is really what shaped me and what made me who I am today was definitely the upbringing that I had and and what my parents how they guided me and I feel like that's really important so I make that a priority in my life to make sure that my kids are going to have even though they don't have those same needs you know to do those things because my mom didn't have a a person she could pay to come clean the house we had to you clean the bathroom you clean the you know it was like a list all of us have to share between us who's going to do what and we grew up that way and it was kind of fun because you know I was always I always love the cleaning part you know I love organizing and cleaning I feel like a clean house is a clean mind is like a what's out is in you know if like if everything is organized outside I can think um and I tell my kids that and I feel that um if I can really get them to do those simple things in life you know and and learn those things and teach them how to be self-sufficient and capable human beings I feel like I've done my job and then I can rest and then whatever else they do the choices they make if they choose to eat the food that I fed them when they were little if now they want to go eat you know whatever or I mean it's going to be what they're going to do you know they're going to choose their friends hopefully they they choose wisely because in the end of the day they're going to be the one dealing with the consequences of their actions and I always tell them like listen you know you're going to go out there and you're going to make the Cho whatever choice you make there are going to be consequences you're dealing with those consequences me this is your life and sometimes they need to they need to make those mistakes and face those consequences like we had I mean how many mistakes that I mean I have and those those experiences are formative like I'm sure if you look in the rear view mirror and think about the panic attacks that you were having on airplanes and your inability to get into an elevator and you know this desire to jump off your balcony on some level you wouldn't wish that experience on anybody but you probably wouldn't wna change your experience either because it's set in motion this whole sensibility and way of being that you now have and I think with kids they regardless of whether they hear you in the moment or whether they go out into the world and make a bunch of mistakes like they come back yeah and whatever you taught them it's in there and at some point when they're ready or whatever like they return to it and you know and and I think to to trust that it's very important and I also feel like because if you try to overly control it you're going to drive them away absolutely and and you know I think for me I keep going back to me as a kid and the trust my parents had in me to let me go and I wouldn't be who I am today if it wasn't for them trusting in me and for all the mistakes that I've made and then had to come the other side and figure out for myself so I think it's important to give our children the Dignity of Their Own process you know because we had a dignity you know we have to go through our own process to become who we are and I think as long as they know that we are there and what what is our values you know is like those things that are important what is what is that we stand for what's important for us you know as as as as a as a value as a core value as as as a being a good human being and a good person and if you thought that your children and and they and they got it in the end of the day they're going to go out there in the world and they're going to have to make their mistakes and I I think the best thing you can do for them it's is just be there for them whenever they they come back and if they want your help you know and I think it's it's hard because you want to protect them like you can put Bobble wrap on them so like nothing will touch them and they will be safe but in the end of the day that's unrealistic and it's like it doesn't work anyway you know what I like this idea you know there's a metaphor of the butterfly imagine the caterpillar as she's transforming into becoming the butterfly she's you know eating eating all the you know until she finally starts spinning into a cocoon and and then she has to like go through that whole stous process if you ever seen like you know they turn into GP yeah but they're like but it's exactly it's just and it's really kind of like hard to like when they're coming out it's like really awkward and it looks like they're very strenuous and very difficult so if you go in there and you try to help them come out you're going to them you're going to the butterfly and she won't be able to have the strength she needs struggle is the struggle is what crucial to the the growth and you have to give them the Dignity of their own process you have to be and I and I keep reminding myself I cannot take away that opportunity for them because my parents gave me the opportunity for me to go through my own challenges and I grew and and I want my kids to have that same opportunity because whoever they're going to become is going to be based on what their choice is and hopefully I gave them enough good examples and and and good um values where they would make the choices that is right for them you know what is it that you want people to understand or take away from the new book and and how you are modeling this lifestyle um whether it's dietary changes Lifestyle Changes uh movement practices how can somebody who is interested in kind of leveling up across the board begin the process of of making those changes in their life you know it's funny you know because when I decided to do a cookbook I'm the farthest thing there is from a chef let me tell you something I I am not a chef let me just like let's be honest you've got a private Chef in home that person is taking care of everything not anymore I used to you don't anymore no I don't I don't it's no the last two years I don't you're cooking your own meals yes I'm cooking my own meals yeah I I grew up there way and I want like I told you like my priority is showing my kids what I believe it's important for them and and and I can't I can't say oh this is important and then I have and I'm not doing it you know what I mean so it has to be cohesive right and and I think that for me um really being like living what I believe is very important and I was showing my kids that this is important to me like the only way I'm going to show them that is by doing that so yes I had chefs and this is how I learn how to cook a lot of the things a lot of the recipes in the book are like inspired by the things that I created with the chefs that I throughout the years I had the opportunity to you know to really work with Incredible people incredible Chef people that love food as much as I do because I love food um but was really an idea for me to look I can say go and meditate go and exercise you know I believe meditation I believe rest I believe um exercise I believe nutrition all of those things are extremely important for you to be able to take kind of ownership of your health and really take care of yourself and have and work on just having a more clear mind and just feeling more connected to yourself I think all of those things are different aspects of it but the reason about the cookbook is quite frankly I was seeing kids were coming to our house and in play dates and and moms will come and be like how did you get my kid to eat broccoli or roasted vegetables or and it was like so simple and I was like oh maybe we can share how to make some simple recipes that are super easy you can make it like in 10 minutes and you know moms some you know you just sometimes feel overwhelmed and I know because life is busy there's so so much going on so I was like how can I help in this way and also I feel like food is a perfect time for you to practice being present and mindful because you can eat like on a rush and not being present and the food have a one effect in your body or you can do something which is what I talk about in the book is like every time I look at my food not only the act of preparing your food there so much loves and you're touching the food and you're connecting with your food that's one thing but even if you're not the one cooking your food just to take a moment to bless your food to acknowledge that that is something that is alive that you're taking it and you're that's also your source of life you know so it's kind of like connecting to the food in that way I think it it does something because everything is energy so you're having a transfer of energy with something and with the intention that you're eating it has a different I I feel huge you know when I start doing that does make a difference how he has a different just being present and being connected to what you're doing having gratitude for that moment and you get to do that three times a day you know I mean now I have a juice once a day but I still blast my juice but it's just kind of like it's just this book what I would like to to to for people to take is like it can be really simple it doesn't have to be complicated to to eat healthy and really like if you have plans you know my mom taught me you know since I was a kid like no food waste so how can we organize our meals so can there's a big thing about like reducing waste yeah there for me that's huge and also like me planning like if you're going to buy because or you know food sourcing that's huge it's not about having something with a lot of condiments and a lot of stuff it's just like keep it simple but buying really great quality products like if you can do that and then instead of like because a lot of people are like oh and then you buy organic and then you throw it out because it's like you know it spoils much faster and I'm like yeah but if you have a meal planning and I and I teach that I kind of give some suggestions in the book like my mom did that I grew up like that because she didn't have time you know she was working all the time so she had like in the fridge like what we going to have for the whole week so she would go to the groceries and she would buy and then the things were allowed to the next day so you would always know what we were eating and things that wouldn't be eaten could be easily transferred for the next day and be made into the next organiz so that nothing spoils and you're so nothing spoils and you never had food waste because you're always taking it from one day to the next so is never wasting you always	have longevity in this career because it's not what I what I saw really around me happening um but you know I kept it kept working out so I kept doing it and it was kind of a Mindless thing you know when you got in the hamster wheel and I think we do that sometimes in life and you're so young you don't know and you Liv the fast life and all of that so in my early 20s I um developed you know anxiety and panic attacks and all that because you know when you drink a bottle of wine and that because you like I used to be a smoker so I smoke I can't even imagine I used to smoke it feels like a whole different life you know but um it was the late 90s and there was a lot of um drugs and fashion and all that so I thought I was saying just because I was like having some wine and smoking cigarettes everybody was doing way worse things than yeah I'm sure you've seen a lot I've seen a lot yeah that's a whole other show about that that's a whole other story but yeah so um you know so that was the beginning for me to start reconnecting with myself because I think when I was 14 and I got that train my only focus was like how can I be the best that I can do on this and and	-2	4	6	have longevity in this career because it's not what I what I saw really around me happening um but you know I kept it kept working out so I kept doing it and it was kind of a Mindless thing you know when you got in the hamster wheel and I think we do that sometimes in life and you're so young you don't know and you Liv the fast life and all of that so in my early 20s I um developed you know anxiety and panic attacks and all that because you know when you drink a bottle of wine and that because you like I used to be a smoker so I smoke I can't even imagine I used to smoke it feels like a whole different life you know but um it was the late 90s and there was a lot of um drugs and fashion and all that so I thought I was saying just because I was like having some wine and smoking cigarettes everybody was doing way worse things than yeah I'm sure you've seen a lot I've seen a lot yeah that's a whole other show about that that's a whole other story	yeah	2,-5,3	0,0,0	2	-5	3	0	0	0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjK5ahIgsHA	4,193	rjK5ahIgsHA	2024-03-25 00:00:00	the choices that you're making are really either supporting you or not straight from the pages of Victoria Secret please welcome jaelle bunin gazelle bunin gazelle has walked in nearly 500 fashion shows and great the covers of more than 1,200 different magazines on paper like you're perhaps highly unrelatable you know what it is it's a character that's the job I do to kind of make a living so I can like you know put foot on the table raising children is is by far the most challenging thing I've ever done it's a different kind of modeling is the type of modeling that I prefer food is a perfect time for you to practice being present and mindful because it can be really simple it doesn't have to be complicated to eat healthy nature is just like it's me instead of like trying to control nature we need to just like take a humble pill and and learn from the Big Mama [Music] today's episode is brought to you by the awesome organizations that make this show [Music] possible so nice to meet you nice to meet you too so excited to have you here today yes when this opportunity presented itself I was like of course I want to talk to Jazelle and then I had my own like sort of mini panic attack we're going to get into panic attacks I'm like what could I possibly talk to this person about the alltime great super model of all time everybody knows this on paper like you're perhaps highly unrelatable but then the more you dig into your story and the more I kind of learned about your Arc and your past and what brought you to this place there's so much that's deeply relatable and your kind of transformation story is remarkably similar to mine although you did yours at like 23 I was 40 um but there's so much in there so I thought it would be cool to kind of um talk a little bit about what it was like what happened and how you made these changes in your life because I think you're in this interesting new season right now where despite the fact that you've been this Wellness Advocate and wellness Warrior for a long time my sense is that there's a there's a more full Embrace of of that now with kind of how you see yourself and what's important to you a well thank you for the introduction you know the funny thing is I you know people's you know what I did for a living is something that kind of just happened to me at 14 years old you know it was it was like hey do you want to be a model and I thought oh I can help my family you know I can do make a living and and help you know I have five sisters and and all that so modeling to me is something that is um an opportunity that came along like I think in life you have these opportunities that either you take that train and then see where it goes you know and I never even believed that this was going to take me and I was going to be doing this for almost 30 years you know it's it's one of those things that I was like oh I'll start doing this job and you know send money home and help my sisters go through school and do all that and um and maybe in five years you know I'll get a house because I didn't even go to school you know I I I was emancipated at 14 yeah you were in Tokyo at 14 I was living in Japan without speaking English and J or Japanese and that's when I when I start learning the language of of of energy you know what I mean because you don't have to understand the language you just have to feel you know something there's a lot more that has been said without words you know sure so I start learning about that um but I think that I went through this journey of modeling which was something I thought was going to last five years and I was just going to help my family out for a little bit and it just kept going you know it just kept happening you know I I didn't even think you can have longevity in this career because it's not what I what I saw really around me happening um but you know I kept it kept working out so I kept doing it and it was kind of a Mindless thing you know when you got in the hamster wheel and I think we do that sometimes in life and you're so young you don't know and you Liv the fast life and all of that so in my early 20s I um developed you know anxiety and panic attacks and all that because you know when you drink a bottle of wine and that because you like I used to be a smoker so I smoke I can't even imagine I used to smoke it feels like a whole different life you know but um it was the late 90s and there was a lot of um drugs and fashion and all that so I thought I was saying just because I was like having some wine and smoking cigarettes everybody was doing way worse things than yeah I'm sure you've seen a lot I've seen a lot yeah that's a whole other show about that that's a whole other story but yeah so um you know so that was the beginning for me to start reconnecting with myself because I think when I was 14 and I got that train my only focus was like how can I be the best that I can do on this and and and that was my focus and and I didn't meure any sacrifice he was like if I had to work 360 days a year and I felt like I couldn't say no because people were giving me a chance and then I was like in this really overdrive uh and burn down my adrenals I found out later when I found this amazing natural Doctor Who told me like listen you don't have any more adrenal they're shut down because you burn them basically I'm like but I'm only 22 you know so um basically I had to change the habits that I you know smoking a pack of cigarettes drinking alcohol every day to myself down coffee all day to keep myself up and also going from you know one time zone to the next I was three days in Paris two days in London one day in New York going back to you know my life was in a living in a suitcase and of course your nervous system is going to freak out you know and the way I was eating it was very you know anything that was in front of me I was just like not mindful about anything you know I was just kind of um like a Workhorse and when that happen to me is when I you know I come from a family that is very my my grandmother had a tea for everything so we never had we were not the kind of you know you get sick let me see this herbal remedy that we you know so yeah you grew up in kind of a small village right in Brazil your grandmother was cultivating herbs and she was the person that everyone would go to for their remedy so you have this sort of background and connection you know with the Earth exactly that you know is kind of lingering in the back of your mind when you're just you know hammering nails and and you know drinking wine and living that life but you're young it's like that's kind of what your 20s are for kind of and you're you're on this like Jet Plane I mean figuratively and literally like your career's taking off on top of that a people pleasing tendency where you feel like you have to say yes to everything and you're just go go go go go yeah and and I think but that was a big wakeup call for me because I think sometimes you know you have to reach rock bottom and when I had that those anxiety and they start becoming like almost CRI because I couldn't get on planes he was just you know I was going to all these doctors and they were like you have to take this stuff and I was just afraid of taking anything because I've never taken anything you know I was a there was a t for for this there you know my grandmother wasn't there so finally you know I wasn't going to take any medication because just the idea of taking something I was like I was normal before how can I go back being what I was you know like I I I didn't have these issues so what's happening long story short I found this doctor I had to replace my habits it was that simple I had to replace these habits that had created the reality I was living at that moment which was you know um really killing me in in so many ways you know killing my spirit killing my and and I replace it with good habits so now instead of smoking cigarettes and having a mocha frappuccino in the morning I'll would go out and do breath work and go out for a run and you know I replace in one day I gave up everything because he he looked at me he said jelle he called me Adrenalina he says do you want to live and I said I do he's like so we going to CH change my diet and that's for the first time in my life that I realized that I I was really like the one who got myself there and I was the only person who could get myself out by the choices that I was making so I had to take full responsibility for what I had created but it was in my power only in my power to change that there were no doctors nobody who was going to save me I had to change um you know the choices I was making and I and I did that and it was incredible because after over a year and a half like really struggling with anxiety and panic attacks and all that within 3 months I was like I never had another incident and it was you know and and once you start meditating I mean at that point this was 20 years ago right it wasn't like people were talking about meditation and yoga any other that um it was just um you know when you sit in silence and you and you reflect which is what we don't really give ourselves time to do because the world is so fastpaced and everything is catching your attention is trying to throw you off your Center you know everything is so busy it's like an overload of information to have that space to go inside and reflect and look and really take a step back I think that was the biggest blessing of my life so really I think what could have killed me is what gave me a whole new life and it was amazing because since then like everything changed like I realized that food is my medicine I realized that I am the director of my own movie that I'm creating my reality based on the choices that I'm making but what I'm choosing to not the people I'm choosing to have around in my life but what type of energy what kind of thoughts I allow to what am I feeding you know what kind of thoughts am I so all of that so that became like a big um changing of seasons for me in my early 20s what were those first couple weeks like if you went completely cold turkey on all of these bad habits I think it was like a drug addict I never was a I guess I was a drug etic only legal drugs because I guess alcohol is a drug and so is cigarettes nicotine and all that and caffeine and all that but they're like socially accepted but I tell you that I had the worst migraine I mean I felt like the I mean maybe that's what a person who's going like you have gone to to rehab right so I'm I don't know what you felt I would love to hear but I for me it was like right I mean I don't know about that sub it's the only way I know how to do it though I don't understand how people kind of phase out of stuff like you have to for me you have to draw the line and step over it and it's going to suck and you're going to be uncomfortable for a while while um but you know that on the other side of that lies all of this opportunity and possibility um but uh and that's what happened to me I think there was that because what I knew I knew that what I was and what if you do what you've always done you're going to get what you've always gotten is that simple and what I realized at that moment that what I what I created for myself was not what I wanted I needed to a drastic change and then he was like draw the line stopped everything in one day and the migraines and all of that like the consequences of what I had done I had to deal with them you know it took me like two weeks I think I was like having the worst migraines just because I didn't know if it was the nicotine the caffeine the alcohol I don't know what it was but it was all of it together and um but then it was amazing because from that experience I I became so much stronger and I and there are lots of different things that happen in my life after that I feel like every time we get tested it's like the Super Mario you know like the little video game when you go to do the big boss like you go through all the phases and you go to level one the big boss is like one it's okay to defeat that one but then the second one is like a tough for big boss and then the third one is you know it's like it's life I feel like that's what life is you get like the new tools so you get equipped and then you go to the next challenge that is a bigger one and then is a bigger one I feel like that's why we're here you know to keep seeing how we can expand how much more we can to grow to evolve to expand to see how strong and how creative and how you know how can how much we can experience of all this wonder how did you how did you plug that into the fast-paced life of of your modeling career because it's one thing if you're living a more kind of grounded atome lifestyle where you can control your food and your environment a little bit better but when you're flying all over the world and you're on these sets and there's craft service and it's junk food like you have to be way ahead of the curve to prepare everything to have everything kind of organized for yourself because how do you you if you're in just hotels all over the place and you arrive at midnight like how are you getting your you know like how did so how did you manage all of that you have to be very discipline I think you know when I I did this book called lessons and um and it was like everything starts to discipline that was like my first chapter and that's what I believe you have to decide you have and then you have to have the discipline to follow through so once you realize that these choices that you are making are having a positive impact in your life you want to continue doing them you know what I mean you don't want to fall back and just something that it didn't feel good that's your past like you don't want to go back there again so you're going to stick to the plan like this is what's working and this is what made me feel good again so I'm going to stick to this and of course it's not 100% you have to be compassionate with yourself too and say you I'll be like you know life is hard as it is you need to bit yourself in the head sometimes if you go and you oh you know I had like um I was exhausted I had like a banana bread or something or I had you know but I think you realize that the choices that you're making are are really either supporting you or not you know supporting you living the life that making you feel good and living the life that you want and is taking to the direction where you want to go or not and then it's just kind of an easier choice to make right and then I feel like when I go to the jobs you know I got to the point in my life where people know how I eat and you know I can tell people like listen this is what I want I want you got extensive riter yeah I kind of you know because I was already working for so long so I I have you know I got to the I guess really the privilege to be able to to kind of say like this is the kind of things that I would like to eat so please at the job you know if you're working 10 12 hours in a studio can we have these things available you know what I mean so then it was easier to keep the food healthy you know um because I think that's so important and then just to say I feel like and then saying no to those things you know like coffee or alcohol or things that I was just so used to because I was still in that same environment the environment hadn't changed I had changed but all of that was around me still but then it was just a choice of saying you know I feel great and I haven't drank alcohol in over two years now too this is something you know I even when I went back drinking after it was very moderate you know I was still like like I would drink socially sometimes you know peer pressure sometimes like oh come on have a drink you know and then you like feel like especially in my world I mean everyone pretty much is like socially having a drink so I would be like okay I'll have a drink but then he got to a point that I was like and that was like 20 years later because it just happened over two years ago I was like I don't want to drink like I don't care what anyone thinks and I don't care if they have Fe peer pressure I'm going to have my Min tea my cam tea and if they want to drink I'm not making anyone feel bad about drinking they can do whatever they want this is their Temple you know this is my temple I get to choose and they shouldn't make me feel bad that I don't want to you know so um then I kind of stood up for myself I think that happens after your 40s like you care less about what other people think and um wait till you're 50 oh my God I can't wait for that I'm gonna like he's he's gonna be amazing but I think the thing you mentioned you mentioned like being directed and and and being kind of dedicated to your path and and and I feel like that's the underappreciated aspect of of understanding you and your career a lot of people arrive in New York City every single day with a similar dream or ambition that you had when you were a young person and you arrived there and a lot of those people are very beautiful you're beautiful but that doesn't tell the story of how you translated like an opportunity into the career that you had and I think between the lines there is an intense work ethic and a very intentional approach to what you were doing like how did you apply those skills like what is the differentiator between you and the career that you've enjoyed versus you know the other beautiful people who aren't enjoying the same kind of career you can't and you're not allowed to say luck or you're you know no I don't believe I don't believe in luck I don't believe in luck I believe in hard work and but I believe in um I mean I think discipline but I also believe that I always treated everyone the way I like to be treated and I've always was appreciative I have this immense sense of gratitude for just being there so even though you know people were like oh you know you you know when I was 19 I was like I want the model of you know the model of the year and everybody's like how does it feel to be it didn't really it doesn't matter to me because quite frankly I never saw myself as a motel it's just not something I didn't drink the Kool-Aid I didn't believe because I was a model or because I I became successful in this job like I was better than anybody I just and I didn't believe that I believe that I just got to learn that craft really well and I understood what the job entail and like I learned how to do the job really well but by no means is what defined me it's just something I did it's not it's not who I am I don't know if you know it's like I go there I had this opportunity at you know 13 14 years old when I finally left home and and and and St pursued this career that really I thought it was just really I did it for the money I did it because I was like what else am I going to do at 14 years old that I can help my family you know I don't have any other jobs that are offering me an opportunity so I'll take this one so for me it was really like a job so I never like it didn't kind of Define me I kind of did it my way like I never became like you know it was like oh it needs to be glamorous I was never glamorous I'm a jeans and t-shirt type of girl like I if I needed to go to parties or hang out with this type of people I never did any of that like I went there I did my job I did the best that I could I never was late in my life for my jobs like never showed up like late I was there before everyone I was there 100% you know I I I just wanted to make sure that if people were booking me and they they were trusting in me that I was going to show up and deliver you know and I think that's kind of what it was I did it my way you know and it didn't broke me kind of Cu I saw you know people in this business you know you can lose yourself because if you drink the Kool-Aid if you start thinking you know like you lose yourself in it I never lost myself it was just a job and it's still just a job I can't even believe I'm still doing it sometimes I go in and I do it you it's not it's not what I do full- time anymore but it's just one of those things that you know I got to do this I got to make a career out of it and got to make a great living and help my family and I I have wonderful you know I got to travel the world and learn different languages and and and all of that and that's how I see it I don't see it as a you know I don't see myself you're not defined by it you're not you're not caught up in in the kind of dark underbelly of that very strange world this whole world is like almost like a parallel reality for me you know what I mean if something is like a switch on button I go there I do my job I take my picture I turn it off I go home and I have the same friends I have my my family I'm very close with my family but I think you're very good at seeing opportunities when they arise and you tell a little story in in in the new book about being 14 and on route to Tokyo and your parents gave you your dad gave you a little bit of money that was intended for getting a cab from that's the first day arve in s Paulo and instead of using that money oh it was you were super young right so you had a little bit of money to take a tab and you had the presence of mind to say this money would be better spent buying some clothes so I can do better in my auditions or whatnot um which isn't like that's not normal like that's somebody who's thinking ahead who's planning long term who's understanding that they have an opportunity in front of them and trying to figure out how to make the most out of it with limited resources and I think that speaks to or says a lot about your sensibility or your perspective as a business person yeah I mean it's so interesting to see it that way I mean I for me at that moment in time you know I I I just felt like I did something else than that you know that was one of the things and now that you're saying that I actually did that throughout because I bought my first apartment when I was 19 years old and when everybody was buying you know designer bags all the models and you know like remember I didn't know I was going to last in this business I thought like I didn't go to school I didn't go to high school I didn't you know I I left I I went to work and whenever I go I go back I thought I was going to be a farmer or something because I just always love the land and but I I didn't think like you know like where am I going to go from here so I have to make sure that I have at least a place to live I'm a cancer so I want to have like a stable home and when I was 19 you know people start flying me first class because I was like the model of the year right saw all the clients now are paying me first class I was exchanging those tickets for Coach classes because I was every two three days in a different country and instead of paying um my you know a rent in an apartment I pay I put down a down payment for an apartment and then I was paying my mortgage instead of paying rent and you're 19 and I was 19 so I I own my first apartment as 19 years old it was like a in in New York City it was like facing a wall of another building mind you he was like a very apartment you know that does require some maturity and some long-term thinking well well because I just thought to myself like you know I don't know how long I'm going to stay here you know I i' I at least I have to have a place to live if I like I'm not going to live empty-handed you know what I mean like what do I care about a bag or like what is that going to give me it's not going to be a roof over my head I need to make sure that I have that I can spend in the right places but I think that sense came from my mother because we grew up you know my mother was a cashier in the bank my father had like lots of different jobs like he had a real estate job but he was you know my mom they literally we we were like really simple people and grew up in two bedrooms with six girls and and and money was all always tight so I learned how to is the same thing in the book is like how do you prepare how do you not waste food I mean everything is like I think in my life I was kind of like raised that way you know what I mean kind of plan ahead like for tomorrow so you make sure that you have like food for everyone like like we're going to reuse the meat we cook on the barbecue and we're going to put it in the rice we're going to have carera so we're going to have an abundant meal because we have the rest of the you know what I mean it's kind of like that it's like you put money in the bank so when you retire you have something to to live off when you can no longer work the same thing I feel about food like you eat the right food so when you're older you you're able to have the energy and your body is functioning because you made the right choices so for me it's the same thing you know it's kind of making like just being kind of what is necessary here like do I really need this what do I need more do I need a roof over my head or do I need this this bags and this stuff do I need to take a taxi when I arrive to the model apartment when I'm 14 even though I never been to the city or can I take the subway and save the money so I can get the clothes for the casting and maybe I can get a job it's like it's kind of thinking like with the resources that I have right now what is the smartest how is the smartest way to use them I guess if you're like me never without a water bottle let's get it right people allow me to rock your world with my new favorite toy that's actually not a toy at all it's a non-negotiable essential camel backs Podium steel 100% % leak proof water bottle emphasis on leak proof for all 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it's you know what it is it's a character I always call call it her because I think being a MTO what I understood as being a motto is to play a character in a silent movie you know you get to experience all these different charact all these different aspects of of of being a woman let's say because one designer wants you to be more androgynous you know one designer was you know I remember diding a Balin Saga campaign I was like they made me a boy I was like literally like a week I was like a man a boy and in one I was like the sexy Versace campaign like you know like with big hair and like you know pushup bra you know so it was kind of like I got to play from the the androgynous girl to the very sexy to the tomb boy like I got to you know I mean you should see I don't know if you ever saw my book the other one that was like the 20 years I did a 20 well I watched the video that you did where you kind of went through it and you were talking about what was going on with you with each of those photographs yeah so it's it's it's it's really about kind of playing these different roles but it's just instead of you talking like you would be in a movie you're just you got to make the image that picture that one capture image to to it's a performance art it's a performance art but it's such a weird world I know that like Alexander McQueen he was like he was really the Catalyst right he was the guy who gave me the chance you know he gave me the the chance but when you watch his shows or some of these other shows like the designs are are stunning and gorgeous but they're also totally inaccessible it's like who wears this does anybody is there anybody in the world that even wear I mean if you're Lady Gaga I guess or somebody like that but like yeah it's a fantasy and so it's curious like how does that translate into I guess it's just how you feel and how you think about a particular designer or a brand and not so much about directly selling those designs to the person who's going to the department store or the boutique right yeah they're not thinking I don't even understand the business model of the whole thing yeah I me neither to be honest with you but I think it's a really I mean I think it has changed a lot uh since I started like I see a big shift because I think before there was a lot more creativity there was allowed a lot more creativity I think you know McQueen or JN galano you know the shows and stuff like you were like in a world like sure and the photographers being rock stars themselves oh yeah and and it was a I think it was a moment in time where there was so much less about selling but it was much more about the the inspiration and the aspir aspiring you know the aspiration of creating like a fantasy and like a and it was a lot of fun then I have to say at that time because I would have been dead I wouldn't have survived it I would have gone all in I would have been at every after hours party it would have been a disaster you see I was in bed like studying my astrology books like by 10 you know that was me I was like by 10 I was like oh no I have to go I was like I have to start early so I can go to bed early so for me it was a a different thing but um you know but I guess for me I also fell very responsible because I didn't want to one of the The Guiding lights for me I really believe was my parents because I saw how hard they work and I didn't want to disappoint them so I think part of like me being so stay on the line was like I'm not disappointing my parents I don't care if they're not here they are going to know what I'm doing like I remember part of the reason why I got so freaked out about the McQueen show and they sent me out like without a top because I couldn't speak English and they didn't even do a feeding anyway so then I was I was like oh my God if my parents see this they're GNA make me go back home and then I you know what is it like when you go internet but there was no internet in 1997 19 it wasn't so thank God because they didn't even saw that otherwi they would have been like what what are you doing I be like I don't know and you have five siblings right I have five sisters I'm a middle child I have two older sisters and two younger sisters and I'm a twin MH in the middle so we like the the sandwich like the cheese in the sandwich being Brazilian uh you're connected to the Amazon and to climate change issues and you've done a lot in terms of your environmental advocacy and clean water initiatives talk a little bit about how that began and and what that looked like now you know I um I've always been a big um basically like a child of nature I always tell my children when they ask you know what's your religion they say Mom we don't go to church I say you know what you're in church every day I say I say what do I say when people ask what my what my religion is I say love is your religion and nature is your church that's your Cathedral that's the big church that's our Temple you know so you honor your temple you love your temple you CU that's the only reason why we are all alive because this whole ecosystem is making it possible you know to grow our food to give us to provide us with all the things we need to survive so U and that's how I grew up I felt that way and especially having a grandmother that everything was from the earth you know she grew everything she ate and and uh you know the Earth was giving us the herbs that we needed to like when we fell ill and and I grew up in that way so when you grew up in that way and you grew up running around bare feet you know I come from a small village and anytime you want to eat something you grab there was like a tangerine tree or like a orange tree or is a plum tree and you just go and pick up the fruit from the tree we never bought fruits from the supermarket you know you go either you had it in your backyard or your neighbor had it or the other neighbor you know somebody had the fruit he wanted to eat you just go grab it so I think when you leave with that connection to Nature you have a different appreciation it's like so I feel like nature is just like it's it's it's me like I think we are n you know we are that and I think this connection from nature for me is not something it's just something I've always known you know is how I grew up and so for me um taking care of which I love which is nature is natural um so the but the first time I realized there was really problems happening is when I went to actually spend some time uh with the indigenous people in shingu area of the Amazon in the 2004 and that's when the first time I realized you know pesticide what's what pesticides were doing where mining was doing how they were contaminating the rivers and basically all the indigenous tribes they were living and depending on the that water they were getting sick and even though they were living very wholesomely you know with nature and you know by the impact that the big farms and different Mining and all that stuff was having um was really um having a really terrible impact in their in their their livelihoods and and that's when the first time I was like I need to do something about it and that's when I started like I had a flipflop line at the time in Brazil and we gave a percentage you know to that's actually a funny story the the the indigenous people and I was like I wonder what they would do with this with this funds but it was like a group that helped indigenous in Brazil and the funny enough when I did when I turned 40 this was in 2004 so I was like 24 cut to when I'm 40 2020 I was 40 um I wanted to do something for my 40th birthday and I was like oh I want to plant some trees in the in in the Amazon and how we going to do it so we looked around for who can help us do that and we contacted the the people that are working with the indigenous people that we knew in in Brazil and they're like we have the largest seed bank in the Amazon and we started with the money with the whole program that you gave in 2004 that money that was for the sale of the flipflops now years later they had the largest seed bank of you know the indigenous they they they collected the larger seed bank and this is how with that whole group of people we basically planted over 300,000 trees in that area of the Amazon so that was like years later so that's just how funny how life goes but for me because I was so connected to nature and I always wanted to help and my dad always said you know water is the most important thing and of course I saw that with the indigenous people because that's how they were all getting sick because all the the you know residue of Mining and and and pesticides were going into their water in my little village we were having a lot of problems with agriculture as well where there was a lot of runoffs from Roundup and all the stuff that they use in agriculture all the pesticides and stuff and it was getting a lot of people sick so we actually did the AGA limpa program in 200 I think it was 20 the N or I don't remember when we started but it was like a long time ago and I funded it and my dad who's also a sociologist worked with the university and we and we basically regenerated the whole area of the river that was kind of you know getting the water to the city and we were able to clean it it took us like a few years to do it you know it was pretty simple because all we had to do I mean it was not simple my dad is the one who did the work it was simpler for me I just kind of funded it but he was there every day he had to work with I don't know how many farmers you had to take their pie of land and kind of grow the native species Forest you know the native Forest back so then the there's a buffer there was a buffer and then the root systems could could filtrate it before all that stuff would go into the river and then that was the agal limpa project and that was one of the projects we did to clean the water and anyway so there's lots of different things but in overall thing my my thing is you know we got to take care of Mother Earth she takes care of us you know when people say to me oh we're going to save the planet I say you're that's such an ego thing you know as humans we think we're going to save anything the planets is in her own process of evolution this is a you know it's I mean dinosaurs were here before us and you know lur I mean so many different civilizations the planet will be fine that's what I always say I say please don't fool yourself I think we really saving ourselves we need to yeah I say there's no Sav we need re ourselves back yeah this is really about us protecting the resources and and taking care of what we really need for our survival because once we are gone the planet is going to regenerate I mean I've seen this over and over again the planet regenerates itself so quickly you know because it's it's just a very intelligent we need to learn from nature instead of like trying to control nature we need to just like take a humble pill and and learn from the Big Mama we've moved so far away from that and we do live in this dualistic mindset where we think there's you know our environments and then there's nature or there's us and that's outside um but really understanding that you're never out of nature as you as you said um I think it's the first point of trying to really deepen your relationship with the world in which you live we all live and share and I think when it comes to the Amazon like we all hear about deforestation and all the you know clearing that's going on for cattle grazing and the strip mining and all the stuff that you mentioned but it's an abstraction especially for you know people in North America like we know what's going on we know it's bad but I've never visited there like I've never seen it myself and you being Brazilian gives you kind of a deeper appreciation and understanding of the extent of it you know I think it's how people tell the story because I think it's a lot deeper than you know I think people like depending on the industry that wants to benefit from something that tell the story and they say okay this is what we're going to do is about the cing oh yeah it's so crazy a lot of NOS go in there and they say we're going to have an NGO because we're going to like protect Amazon but they're meantime they're the owners of the bigger paper company that comes from the Amazon they are just not you know what I mean so there it's not not all is as it seems no it's it's a very it's a wild wild west there and one of the biggest you know I've been there a few times and also done a lot of um just kind of like talking to people and understanding what happens there and a lot of the you know there's ancient Woods there and a lot of that goes to Europe so like what a lot of the the cattle for example is what they use to kind of occupy the land but what they're really after which is really valuable there is like gold and Min m you know the the rare medals the rare medals yeah the rare medals and the gold and all that stuff that's in there that's what interest this like you know the different um countries let's say they are not brail when they and because it's so corrupt unfortunately you know Brazil is very corrupt the politicians are very corrupt what happens is they sell those rights to those countries and then we have what we have and then the cattle like in the end they just kind of put them there because they have to occupy the land after they REM because they have to enter if you go there after they removed everything because they have to remove the value the value then they then they put all the cows there that's what they do so they remove the ancient wood they they remove the precious metals and and but they have to get there because if you fly over it it mean you're flying for hours over just a Green carpet so for you to have access to that you have to you can't just like clear cut because it grows so what they do to keep the the the forest from growing they just throw because it's very fertile the soil as soon as you cut because imagine that soil is been there like receiving all those back healthy bacteria from the leaves falling super fertile So within like three days you can Grass Grows Right and then in order for the trees not to keep growing because if you just leave abandon that's what's going to happen the birds are going to carry the seeds they're going to drop the seeds they're going to things are going to start growing again and then they won't have access you know so they kind of it's just like a cycle like but what is really after what they're really after it is the big stuff is the is the and and it's not unfortunately you know it's h it's so sad you know is greed mhm in the end of the day is greed and is greed by people that you know they don't have those natural resources where they are and and they understand the situation in Brazil and how corrupt the this the the 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their best interest from a wellness perspective I think the number one thing I feel is like monkey see monkey does right I think you have to be the example you have to leave it um cuz I think whatever you say is one thing and whatever you do you they need to kind they need to whatever you say whatever you do they have to be the same thing right sympatico yeah they have to be sympatico and um and that's what it is and and I think for the kids for my kids were were a lot easier because I was home a lot with them so I was you know taking them to school every day making their breakfast you know just having my Gardens at home growing the food so when the kids would come for play dates at the house you know my kids were grabbing like everything raw cucumbers carrots like green beans they were just grabbing it from the garden and like collecting things and putting in the basket it was like a game for them and it was like oh friends are coming over why are we going to grab for the for to Door picnic outside and then so they grew up in that way you know they they uh so it was easier for me to feed them healthier food and and and and explain to them you know we always compost it we had bees at our house um so you know they they were learning about you know when The Beekeeper would come and they explain you know how much be how much honey can you take and how much money how much honey do you leave for the bees and how does a the how does a queen bee work and all the so they were they're emotionally connected they were emotionally connected they were part of that like I was as a kid so um so for them is really natural and they were also homeschooled for the last three years um during the you know the whole pandemic thing I and we moved from Boston to Tampa so um it was a whole new world for them so I I homeschooled them and now they just went back to school but I have to tell you I see a huge difference especially because my son is 14 now so he wants to kind of push back this is what I'm getting at oh yeah well how old kid well they range from 28 to 16 and each one of there's four and each of them is different um but it's a delicate dance because you know we raised our kids similarly um but they reach a certain age and part of individuation and maturing is taking ownership for your own choices and understanding what you stand for and what you don't and in order to really Define that and hone that you have to go out and kind of push the envelope and try new things otherwise it's just something you're doing because that's the way you were raised and that's what your parents told you as opposed to really owning it for yourself and so so we have learned that you have to have the brains very loose and and let them go out and do what they want to do and control the environment at home but be you know very kind of nonplused if they go and make a choice that you wouldn't make or whatever and just be curious about it and allow them the space to do that and you know you hope they come back and you know do it the way you taught them to um and sometimes they do and sometimes they don't and again every one of them is different in our case but as they get to a certain point and especially you know when they're with peers and friends and they're in social situations those things they have to learn for themselves and you have to allow them to I think it's so interesting so you have to let go a little bit oh let go and let God yeah I tell myself that is like a mantra you know and and and I I I remind myself of like my mom let me leave home she emancipated me and I was leing in Japan at 14 and there was no cell phones like I call you know can you imagine doing that for one of your children right now no and actually you know what it's so funny because I was having a conversation with my son about that he um he was complaining you know I have chores in my house you know kids have to do their chores so set the table wash the dishes you know now I make a point you know I cook at you know they come from school I'm cooking you know they so one has to set the table whoever sets the table the other has to wash the dishes and there is like you have to clean your room you have to do the basic stuff you know my daughter is doing amazingly she loves it and she's like really good and very proud of herself mom look how good I cleaned the dishes like she's really good and she's washing herself she's not putting it in the machine she wants to learn how to really wash it and and and do it right and she's very focused on it my son is like always like why do I have to do this you know so actually we had like a breakthrough this Christmas this this whole holiday season because I said he says to me I'm going to leave home when I'm 18 mom and I don't know if I'm going to go to college you didn't go to college you didn't go to school I'm going to just leave home when I'm 18 and I'm going to do this and I'm going to do that I'm like okay that's great so you're going to leave in your own apartment and who's going to cook for you and who's going to wash your dishes and who's going to clean your clothes who's going to do that and he's like for a second he's like because you're not going to have a chef and like a you know like and he was thinking for a second and I say well this is why when mommy tells you to do those things at home you know is because I want to give you more tools for your tool boox because when you learn how to do those things and they become second nature to you then you don't even have to think about it you become empowered to do it for yourself you don't depend on anybody and that's nothing it's amazing to be able to do that I said you know what made me feel so like strong and capable when I left my home because my mom taught me how to do those things so when I left home and I was leaving by myself at 14 years old I was first at 13 at 14 I moved to Japan but because I was leaving in the mod's apartment I was the only person there who knew how to clean cook iron do absolutely everything in the house because my mom taught me and it was easy for me I didn't think it was a struggle I was happy to do it and I was happy to to do it for the other girls that didn't know how to do it but if you're going to be planning on leaving on your own at 18 who do you think is going to do all those things for you so all I'm telling you is like take advantage that mommy's here for you right now and I'm able to teach you all those things and you can do it at your time I'm not telling you like at this time you have to wash the dishes so let me just help you I'm going to create a list for you and you just have to do them and you can decide if you want to wash clothes once or twice a week you can decide if you want to wash the dishes right after dinner or before you go to bed whatever you want but if you learn how to do those things you're going to see how empowered you're going to feel and the more tools we can put like the more things like the simple things like that that you can learn and that you can equip your tool box to do you're just going to be just that much like capable and and and there's nothing more fulfilling than feeling like you're able to do stuff that you're capable and then he looked at me and he's like okay mom so when we get back home you give me that list and I'm going to do it I'm like I wow I was going to say like he actually he actually receiv that I I think I have a breakthrough I think I got a breakthrough with the hormones are raging like whatever mom you know storming off like you can get you can get that reaction too that was good good job don't you think that was a good thing but but I used but you see it was a moment that I used what he said because when he thought to himself that's true how am I going to do all that stuff I said you don't want to live in like a you know a messy stinky place that is not clean like you know you want to like have you know so you need to know how to do this stuff and I think all I I see like all the things that happen in life like that like different tools we acquire you know even the job that I you know my job like all the tools that I've acquired in this job all the things that I've learned to do um that I don't know when I'm going to use I use them for my job but maybe I'm going to they going to be useful like in 20 years from my life sure but you came from very different circumstances it's the it's the Peril of success right like you and and the kid's dad like worked very hard to achieve all of these things in life and now they're reared in you know like an insane degree of privilege and it becomes more difficult to instill that kind of work ethic into somebody who you know grows up that way I think you're correct I think it becomes a lot more difficult but I think goes back to the discipline and it goes back to priorities and I think it for me it becomes about what kind of you know I I feel like I'm their Guardian because we don't possess our children right I mean we just come here they come through us but they're as much as our teachers as we are they're teachers and we're constantly learning and teaching you know in every relationship in our life and and I feel that we get this moment in time which is very short in a way that we get to influence our children because then they go I mean look at my parents they had 14 years to influence me then I was out in the world and I never went back and I keep remembering like what are all the things that if they wouldn't have taught me those things where would I be today and I'm so grateful for them for for those lessons and I feel like yes I grew up in very different circumstances than my kids and it is a bit more challenging to have them you know make their bed and wash the dishes and clean their you know when I have a person that can do it too but I make a point of me doing it so then they learn that oh Mommy's doing the dinner Mommy is making the breakfast mommy is so they're like weel you have to model and I feel like it's a different kind of modeling is it is the type of modeling that I prefer it's it's the type of modeling that I find to be the important type of modeling because that's the you know I mean what's Mo the most important thing you're going to do in your life I feel like raising children is is by far the most challenging thing I've ever done and the most uh fulfilling at the same time and you know but I feel that if if I if I don't do that if I don't equip my children to be good capable assets you know for themselves in their lives if they're not going to be then I fail I I feel yeah you haven't done your job then I haven't done my job I mean I feel that's my job I mean that's a job I do to kind of make a living so I can like you know put foot on the table and have but my real job as as I think as a as a mom and I chose to be a mom so I have to show up for my kids and I feel like this things that my you know I think is really what shaped me and what made me who I am today was definitely the upbringing that I had and and what my parents how they guided me and I feel like that's really important so I make that a priority in my life to make sure that my kids are going to have even though they don't have those same needs you know to do those things because my mom didn't have a a person she could pay to come clean the house we had to you clean the bathroom you clean the you know it was like a list all of us have to share between us who's going to do what and we grew up that way and it was kind of fun because you know I was always I always love the cleaning part you know I love organizing and cleaning I feel like a clean house is a clean mind is like a what's out is in you know if like if everything is organized outside I can think um and I tell my kids that and I feel that um if I can really get them to do those simple things in life you know and and learn those things and teach them how to be self-sufficient and capable human beings I feel like I've done my job and then I can rest and then whatever else they do the choices they make if they choose to eat the food that I fed them when they were little if now they want to go eat you know whatever or I mean it's going to be what they're going to do you know they're going to choose their friends hopefully they they choose wisely because in the end of the day they're going to be the one dealing with the consequences of their actions and I always tell them like listen you know you're going to go out there and you're going to make the Cho whatever choice you make there are going to be consequences you're dealing with those consequences me this is your life and sometimes they need to they need to make those mistakes and face those consequences like we had I mean how many mistakes that I mean I have and those those experiences are formative like I'm sure if you look in the rear view mirror and think about the panic attacks that you were having on airplanes and your inability to get into an elevator and you know this desire to jump off your balcony on some level you wouldn't wish that experience on anybody but you probably wouldn't wna change your experience either because it's set in motion this whole sensibility and way of being that you now have and I think with kids they regardless of whether they hear you in the moment or whether they go out into the world and make a bunch of mistakes like they come back yeah and whatever you taught them it's in there and at some point when they're ready or whatever like they return to it and you know and and I think to to trust that it's very important and I also feel like because if you try to overly control it you're going to drive them away absolutely and and you know I think for me I keep going back to me as a kid and the trust my parents had in me to let me go and I wouldn't be who I am today if it wasn't for them trusting in me and for all the mistakes that I've made and then had to come the other side and figure out for myself so I think it's important to give our children the Dignity of Their Own process you know because we had a dignity you know we have to go through our own process to become who we are and I think as long as they know that we are there and what what is our values you know is like those things that are important what is what is that we stand for what's important for us you know as as as as a as a value as a core value as as as a being a good human being and a good person and if you thought that your children and and they and they got it in the end of the day they're going to go out there in the world and they're going to have to make their mistakes and I I think the best thing you can do for them it's is just be there for them whenever they they come back and if they want your help you know and I think it's it's hard because you want to protect them like you can put Bobble wrap on them so like nothing will touch them and they will be safe but in the end of the day that's unrealistic and it's like it doesn't work anyway you know what I like this idea you know there's a metaphor of the butterfly imagine the caterpillar as she's transforming into becoming the butterfly she's you know eating eating all the you know until she finally starts spinning into a cocoon and and then she has to like go through that whole stous process if you ever seen like you know they turn into GP yeah but they're like but it's exactly it's just and it's really kind of like hard to like when they're coming out it's like really awkward and it looks like they're very strenuous and very difficult so if you go in there and you try to help them come out you're going to them you're going to the butterfly and she won't be able to have the strength she needs struggle is the struggle is what crucial to the the growth and you have to give them the Dignity of their own process you have to be and I and I keep reminding myself I cannot take away that opportunity for them because my parents gave me the opportunity for me to go through my own challenges and I grew and and I want my kids to have that same opportunity because whoever they're going to become is going to be based on what their choice is and hopefully I gave them enough good examples and and and good um values where they would make the choices that is right for them you know what is it that you want people to understand or take away from the new book and and how you are modeling this lifestyle um whether it's dietary changes Lifestyle Changes uh movement practices how can somebody who is interested in kind of leveling up across the board begin the process of of making those changes in their life you know it's funny you know because when I decided to do a cookbook I'm the farthest thing there is from a chef let me tell you something I I am not a chef let me just like let's be honest you've got a private Chef in home that person is taking care of everything not anymore I used to you don't anymore no I don't I don't it's no the last two years I don't you're cooking your own meals yes I'm cooking my own meals yeah I I grew up there way and I want like I told you like my priority is showing my kids what I believe it's important for them and and and I can't I can't say oh this is important and then I have and I'm not doing it you know what I mean so it has to be cohesive right and and I think that for me um really being like living what I believe is very important and I was showing my kids that this is important to me like the only way I'm going to show them that is by doing that so yes I had chefs and this is how I learn how to cook a lot of the things a lot of the recipes in the book are like inspired by the things that I created with the chefs that I throughout the years I had the opportunity to you know to really work with Incredible people incredible Chef people that love food as much as I do because I love food um but was really an idea for me to look I can say go and meditate go and exercise you know I believe meditation I believe rest I believe um exercise I believe nutrition all of those things are extremely important for you to be able to take kind of ownership of your health and really take care of yourself and have and work on just having a more clear mind and just feeling more connected to yourself I think all of those things are different aspects of it but the reason about the cookbook is quite frankly I was seeing kids were coming to our house and in play dates and and moms will come and be like how did you get my kid to eat broccoli or roasted vegetables or and it was like so simple and I was like oh maybe we can share how to make some simple recipes that are super easy you can make it like in 10 minutes and you know moms some you know you just sometimes feel overwhelmed and I know because life is busy there's so so much going on so I was like how can I help in this way and also I feel like food is a perfect time for you to practice being present and mindful because you can eat like on a rush and not being present and the food have a one effect in your body or you can do something which is what I talk about in the book is like every time I look at my food not only the act of preparing your food there so much loves and you're touching the food and you're connecting with your food that's one thing but even if you're not the one cooking your food just to take a moment to bless your food to acknowledge that that is something that is alive that you're taking it and you're that's also your source of life you know so it's kind of like connecting to the food in that way I think it it does something because everything is energy so you're having a transfer of energy with something and with the intention that you're eating it has a different I I feel huge you know when I start doing that does make a difference how he has a different just being present and being connected to what you're doing having gratitude for that moment and you get to do that three times a day you know I mean now I have a juice once a day but I still blast my juice but it's just kind of like it's just this book what I would like to to to for people to take is like it can be really simple it doesn't have to be complicated to to eat healthy and really like if you have plans you know my mom taught me you know since I was a kid like no food waste so how can we organize our meals so can there's a big thing about like reducing waste yeah there for me that's huge and also like me planning like if you're going to buy because or you know food sourcing that's huge it's not about having something with a lot of condiments and a lot of stuff it's just like keep it simple but buying really great quality products like if you can do that and then instead of like because a lot of people are like oh and then you buy organic and then you throw it out because it's like you know it spoils much faster and I'm like yeah but if you have a meal planning and I and I teach that I kind of give some suggestions in the book like my mom did that I grew up like that because she didn't have time you know she was working all the time so she had like in the fridge like what we going to have for the whole week so she would go to the groceries and she would buy and then the things were allowed to the next day so you would always know what we were eating and things that wouldn't be eaten could be easily transferred for the next day and be made into the next organiz so that nothing spoils and you're so nothing spoils and you never had food waste because you're always taking it from one day to the next so is never wasting you always	and that was my focus and and I didn't meure any sacrifice he was like if I had to work 360 days a year and I felt like I couldn't say no because people were giving me a chance and then I was like in this really overdrive uh and burn down my adrenals I found out later when I found this amazing natural Doctor Who told me like listen you don't have any more adrenal they're shut down because you burn them basically I'm like but I'm only 22 you know so um basically I had to change the habits that I you know smoking a pack of cigarettes drinking alcohol every day to myself down coffee all day to keep myself up and also going from you know one time zone to the next I was three days in Paris two days in London one day in New York going back to you know my life was in a living in a suitcase and of course your nervous system is going to freak out you know and the way I was eating it was very you know anything that was in front of me I was just like not mindful about anything you know I was just kind of um like a Workhorse and when that happen to me is when I you know I come from a family that is very my my grandmother had a tea for everything so we never had we were not the	-5	8	-3	and that was my focus and and I didn't meure any sacrifice he was like if I had to work 360 days a year and I 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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjK5ahIgsHA	4,193	rjK5ahIgsHA	2024-03-25 00:00:00	the choices that you're making are really either supporting you or not straight from the pages of Victoria Secret please welcome jaelle bunin gazelle bunin gazelle has walked in nearly 500 fashion shows and great the covers of more than 1,200 different magazines on paper like you're perhaps highly unrelatable you know what it is it's a character that's the job I do to kind of make a living so I can like you know put foot on the table raising children is is by far the most challenging thing I've ever done it's a different kind of modeling is the type of modeling that I prefer food is a perfect time for you to practice being present and mindful because it can be really simple it doesn't have to be complicated to eat healthy nature is just like it's me instead of like trying to control nature we need to just like take a humble pill and and learn from the Big Mama [Music] today's episode is brought to you by the awesome organizations that make this show [Music] possible so nice to meet you nice to meet you too so excited to have you here today yes when this opportunity presented itself I was like of course I want to talk to Jazelle and then I had my own like sort of mini panic attack we're going to get into panic attacks I'm like what could I possibly talk to this person about the alltime great super model of all time everybody knows this on paper like you're perhaps highly unrelatable but then the more you dig into your story and the more I kind of learned about your Arc and your past and what brought you to this place there's so much that's deeply relatable and your kind of transformation story is remarkably similar to mine although you did yours at like 23 I was 40 um but there's so much in there so I thought it would be cool to kind of um talk a little bit about what it was like what happened and how you made these changes in your life because I think you're in this interesting new season right now where despite the fact that you've been this Wellness Advocate and wellness Warrior for a long time my sense is that there's a there's a more full Embrace of of that now with kind of how you see yourself and what's important to you a well thank you for the introduction you know the funny thing is I you know people's you know what I did for a living is something that kind of just happened to me at 14 years old you know it was it was like hey do you want to be a model and I thought oh I can help my family you know I can do make a living and and help you know I have five sisters and and all that so modeling to me is something that is um an opportunity that came along like I think in life you have these opportunities that either you take that train and then see where it goes you know and I never even believed that this was going to take me and I was going to be doing this for almost 30 years you know it's it's one of those things that I was like oh I'll start doing this job and you know send money home and help my sisters go through school and do all that and um and maybe in five years you know I'll get a house because I didn't even go to school you know I I I was emancipated at 14 yeah you were in Tokyo at 14 I was living in Japan without speaking English and J or Japanese and that's when I when I start learning the language of of of energy you know what I mean because you don't have to understand the language you just have to feel you know something there's a lot more that has been said without words you know sure so I start learning about that um but I think that I went through this journey of modeling which was something I thought was going to last five years and I was just going to help my family out for a little bit and it just kept going you know it just kept happening you know I I didn't even think you can have longevity in this career because it's not what I what I saw really around me happening um but you know I kept it kept working out so I kept doing it and it was kind of a Mindless thing you know when you got in the hamster wheel and I think we do that sometimes in life and you're so young you don't know and you Liv the fast life and all of that so in my early 20s I um developed you know anxiety and panic attacks and all that because you know when you drink a bottle of wine and that because you like I used to be a smoker so I smoke I can't even imagine I used to smoke it feels like a whole different life you know but um it was the late 90s and there was a lot of um drugs and fashion and all that so I thought I was saying just because I was like having some wine and smoking cigarettes everybody was doing way worse things than yeah I'm sure you've seen a lot I've seen a lot yeah that's a whole other show about that that's a whole other story but yeah so um you know so that was the beginning for me to start reconnecting with myself because I think when I was 14 and I got that train my only focus was like how can I be the best that I can do on this and and and that was my focus and and I didn't meure any sacrifice he was like if I had to work 360 days a year and I felt like I couldn't say no because people were giving me a chance and then I was like in this really overdrive uh and burn down my adrenals I found out later when I found this amazing natural Doctor Who told me like listen you don't have any more adrenal they're shut down because you burn them basically I'm like but I'm only 22 you know so um basically I had to change the habits that I you know smoking a pack of cigarettes drinking alcohol every day to myself down coffee all day to keep myself up and also going from you know one time zone to the next I was three days in Paris two days in London one day in New York going back to you know my life was in a living in a suitcase and of course your nervous system is going to freak out you know and the way I was eating it was very you know anything that was in front of me I was just like not mindful about anything you know I was just kind of um like a Workhorse and when that happen to me is when I you know I come from a family that is very my my grandmother had a tea for everything so we never had we were not the kind of you know you get sick let me see this herbal remedy that we you know so yeah you grew up in kind of a small village right in Brazil your grandmother was cultivating herbs and she was the person that everyone would go to for their remedy so you have this sort of background and connection you know with the Earth exactly that you know is kind of lingering in the back of your mind when you're just you know hammering nails and and you know drinking wine and living that life but you're young it's like that's kind of what your 20s are for kind of and you're you're on this like Jet Plane I mean figuratively and literally like your career's taking off on top of that a people pleasing tendency where you feel like you have to say yes to everything and you're just go go go go go yeah and and I think but that was a big wakeup call for me because I think sometimes you know you have to reach rock bottom and when I had that those anxiety and they start becoming like almost CRI because I couldn't get on planes he was just you know I was going to all these doctors and they were like you have to take this stuff and I was just afraid of taking anything because I've never taken anything you know I was a there was a t for for this there you know my grandmother wasn't there so finally you know I wasn't going to take any medication because just the idea of taking something I was like I was normal before how can I go back being what I was you know like I I I didn't have these issues so what's happening long story short I found this doctor I had to replace my habits it was that simple I had to replace these habits that had created the reality I was living at that moment which was you know um really killing me in in so many ways you know killing my spirit killing my and and I replace it with good habits so now instead of smoking cigarettes and having a mocha frappuccino in the morning I'll would go out and do breath work and go out for a run and you know I replace in one day I gave up everything because he he looked at me he said jelle he called me Adrenalina he says do you want to live and I said I do he's like so we going to CH change my diet and that's for the first time in my life that I realized that I I was really like the one who got myself there and I was the only person who could get myself out by the choices that I was making so I had to take full responsibility for what I had created but it was in my power only in my power to change that there were no doctors nobody who was going to save me I had to change um you know the choices I was making and I and I did that and it was incredible because after over a year and a half like really struggling with anxiety and panic attacks and all that within 3 months I was like I never had another incident and it was you know and and once you start meditating I mean at that point this was 20 years ago right it wasn't like people were talking about meditation and yoga any other that um it was just um you know when you sit in silence and you and you reflect which is what we don't really give ourselves time to do because the world is so fastpaced and everything is catching your attention is trying to throw you off your Center you know everything is so busy it's like an overload of information to have that space to go inside and reflect and look and really take a step back I think that was the biggest blessing of my life so really I think what could have killed me is what gave me a whole new life and it was amazing because since then like everything changed like I realized that food is my medicine I realized that I am the director of my own movie that I'm creating my reality based on the choices that I'm making but what I'm choosing to not the people I'm choosing to have around in my life but what type of energy what kind of thoughts I allow to what am I feeding you know what kind of thoughts am I so all of that so that became like a big um changing of seasons for me in my early 20s what were those first couple weeks like if you went completely cold turkey on all of these bad habits I think it was like a drug addict I never was a I guess I was a drug etic only legal drugs because I guess alcohol is a drug and so is cigarettes nicotine and all that and caffeine and all that but they're like socially accepted but I tell you that I had the worst migraine I mean I felt like the I mean maybe that's what a person who's going like you have gone to to rehab right so I'm I don't know what you felt I would love to hear but I for me it was like right I mean I don't know about that sub it's the only way I know how to do it though I don't understand how people kind of phase out of stuff like you have to for me you have to draw the line and step over it and it's going to suck and you're going to be uncomfortable for a while while um but you know that on the other side of that lies all of this opportunity and possibility um but uh and that's what happened to me I think there was that because what I knew I knew that what I was and what if you do what you've always done you're going to get what you've always gotten is that simple and what I realized at that moment that what I what I created for myself was not what I wanted I needed to a drastic change and then he was like draw the line stopped everything in one day and the migraines and all of that like the consequences of what I had done I had to deal with them you know it took me like two weeks I think I was like having the worst migraines just because I didn't know if it was the nicotine the caffeine the alcohol I don't know what it was but it was all of it together and um but then it was amazing because from that experience I I became so much stronger and I and there are lots of different things that happen in my life after that I feel like every time we get tested it's like the Super Mario you know like the little video game when you go to do the big boss like you go through all the phases and you go to level one the big boss is like one it's okay to defeat that one but then the second one is like a tough for big boss and then the third one is you know it's like it's life I feel like that's what life is you get like the new tools so you get equipped and then you go to the next challenge that is a bigger one and then is a bigger one I feel like that's why we're here you know to keep seeing how we can expand how much more we can to grow to evolve to expand to see how strong and how creative and how you know how can how much we can experience of all this wonder how did you how did you plug that into the fast-paced life of of your modeling career because it's one thing if you're living a more kind of grounded atome lifestyle where you can control your food and your environment a little bit better but when you're flying all over the world and you're on these sets and there's craft service and it's junk food like you have to be way ahead of the curve to prepare everything to have everything kind of organized for yourself because how do you you if you're in just hotels all over the place and you arrive at midnight like how are you getting your you know like how did so how did you manage all of that you have to be very discipline I think you know when I I did this book called lessons and um and it was like everything starts to discipline that was like my first chapter and that's what I believe you have to decide you have and then you have to have the discipline to follow through so once you realize that these choices that you are making are having a positive impact in your life you want to continue doing them you know what I mean you don't want to fall back and just something that it didn't feel good that's your past like you don't want to go back there again so you're going to stick to the plan like this is what's working and this is what made me feel good again so I'm going to stick to this and of course it's not 100% you have to be compassionate with yourself too and say you I'll be like you know life is hard as it is you need to bit yourself in the head sometimes if you go and you oh you know I had like um I was exhausted I had like a banana bread or something or I had you know but I think you realize that the choices that you're making are are really either supporting you or not you know supporting you living the life that making you feel good and living the life that you want and is taking to the direction where you want to go or not and then it's just kind of an easier choice to make right and then I feel like when I go to the jobs you know I got to the point in my life where people know how I eat and you know I can tell people like listen this is what I want I want you got extensive riter yeah I kind of you know because I was already working for so long so I I have you know I got to the I guess really the privilege to be able to to kind of say like this is the kind of things that I would like to eat so please at the job you know if you're working 10 12 hours in a studio can we have these things available you know what I mean so then it was easier to keep the food healthy you know um because I think that's so important and then just to say I feel like and then saying no to those things you know like coffee or alcohol or things that I was just so used to because I was still in that same environment the environment hadn't changed I had changed but all of that was around me still but then it was just a choice of saying you know I feel great and I haven't drank alcohol in over two years now too this is something you know I even when I went back drinking after it was very moderate you know I was still like like I would drink socially sometimes you know peer pressure sometimes like oh come on have a drink you know and then you like feel like especially in my world I mean everyone pretty much is like socially having a drink so I would be like okay I'll have a drink but then he got to a point that I was like and that was like 20 years later because it just happened over two years ago I was like I don't want to drink like I don't care what anyone thinks and I don't care if they have Fe peer pressure I'm going to have my Min tea my cam tea and if they want to drink I'm not making anyone feel bad about drinking they can do whatever they want this is their Temple you know this is my temple I get to choose and they shouldn't make me feel bad that I don't want to you know so um then I kind of stood up for myself I think that happens after your 40s like you care less about what other people think and um wait till you're 50 oh my God I can't wait for that I'm gonna like he's he's gonna be amazing but I think the thing you mentioned you mentioned like being directed and and and being kind of dedicated to your path and and and I feel like that's the underappreciated aspect of of understanding you and your career a lot of people arrive in New York City every single day with a similar dream or ambition that you had when you were a young person and you arrived there and a lot of those people are very beautiful you're beautiful but that doesn't tell the story of how you translated like an opportunity into the career that you had and I think between the lines there is an intense work ethic and a very intentional approach to what you were doing like how did you apply those skills like what is the differentiator between you and the career that you've enjoyed versus you know the other beautiful people who aren't enjoying the same kind of career you can't and you're not allowed to say luck or you're you know no I don't believe I don't believe in luck I don't believe in luck I believe in hard work and but I believe in um I mean I think discipline but I also believe that I always treated everyone the way I like to be treated and I've always was appreciative I have this immense sense of gratitude for just being there so even though you know people were like oh you know you you know when I was 19 I was like I want the model of you know the model of the year and everybody's like how does it feel to be it didn't really it doesn't matter to me because quite frankly I never saw myself as a motel it's just not something I didn't drink the Kool-Aid I didn't believe because I was a model or because I I became successful in this job like I was better than anybody I just and I didn't believe that I believe that I just got to learn that craft really well and I understood what the job entail and like I learned how to do the job really well but by no means is what defined me it's just something I did it's not it's not who I am I don't know if you know it's like I go there I had this opportunity at you know 13 14 years old when I finally left home and and and and St pursued this career that really I thought it was just really I did it for the money I did it because I was like what else am I going to do at 14 years old that I can help my family you know I don't have any other jobs that are offering me an opportunity so I'll take this one so for me it was really like a job so I never like it didn't kind of Define me I kind of did it my way like I never became like you know it was like oh it needs to be glamorous I was never glamorous I'm a jeans and t-shirt type of girl like I if I needed to go to parties or hang out with this type of people I never did any of that like I went there I did my job I did the best that I could I never was late in my life for my jobs like never showed up like late I was there before everyone I was there 100% you know I I I just wanted to make sure that if people were booking me and they they were trusting in me that I was going to show up and deliver you know and I think that's kind of what it was I did it my way you know and it didn't broke me kind of Cu I saw you know people in this business you know you can lose yourself because if you drink the Kool-Aid if you start thinking you know like you lose yourself in it I never lost myself it was just a job and it's still just a job I can't even believe I'm still doing it sometimes I go in and I do it you it's not it's not what I do full- time anymore but it's just one of those things that you know I got to do this I got to make a career out of it and got to make a great living and help my family and I I have wonderful you know I got to travel the world and learn different languages and and and all of that and that's how I see it I don't see it as a you know I don't see myself you're not defined by it you're not you're not caught up in in the kind of dark underbelly of that very strange world this whole world is like almost like a parallel reality for me you know what I mean if something is like a switch on button I go there I do my job I take my picture I turn it off I go home and I have the same friends I have my my family I'm very close with my family but I think you're very good at seeing opportunities when they arise and you tell a little story in in in the new book about being 14 and on route to Tokyo and your parents gave you your dad gave you a little bit of money that was intended for getting a cab from that's the first day arve in s Paulo and instead of using that money oh it was you were super young right so you had a little bit of money to take a tab and you had the presence of mind to say this money would be better spent buying some clothes so I can do better in my auditions or whatnot um which isn't like that's not normal like that's somebody who's thinking ahead who's planning long term who's understanding that they have an opportunity in front of them and trying to figure out how to make the most out of it with limited resources and I think that speaks to or says a lot about your sensibility or your perspective as a business person yeah I mean it's so interesting to see it that way I mean I for me at that moment in time you know I I I just felt like I did something else than that you know that was one of the things and now that you're saying that I actually did that throughout because I bought my first apartment when I was 19 years old and when everybody was buying you know designer bags all the models and you know like remember I didn't know I was going to last in this business I thought like I didn't go to school I didn't go to high school I didn't you know I I left I I went to work and whenever I go I go back I thought I was going to be a farmer or something because I just always love the land and but I I didn't think like you know like where am I going to go from here so I have to make sure that I have at least a place to live I'm a cancer so I want to have like a stable home and when I was 19 you know people start flying me first class because I was like the model of the year right saw all the clients now are paying me first class I was exchanging those tickets for Coach classes because I was every two three days in a different country and instead of paying um my you know a rent in an apartment I pay I put down a down payment for an apartment and then I was paying my mortgage instead of paying rent and you're 19 and I was 19 so I I own my first apartment as 19 years old it was like a in in New York City it was like facing a wall of another building mind you he was like a very apartment you know that does require some maturity and some long-term thinking well well because I just thought to myself like you know I don't know how long I'm going to stay here you know I i' I at least I have to have a place to live if I like I'm not going to live empty-handed you know what I mean like what do I care about a bag or like what is that going to give me it's not going to be a roof over my head I need to make sure that I have that I can spend in the right places but I think that sense came from my mother because we grew up you know my mother was a cashier in the bank my father had like lots of different jobs like he had a real estate job but he was you know my mom they literally we we were like really simple people and grew up in two bedrooms with six girls and and and money was all always tight so I learned how to is the same thing in the book is like how do you prepare how do you not waste food I mean everything is like I think in my life I was kind of like raised that way you know what I mean kind of plan ahead like for tomorrow so you make sure that you have like food for everyone like like we're going to reuse the meat we cook on the barbecue and we're going to put it in the rice we're going to have carera so we're going to have an abundant meal because we have the rest of the you know what I mean it's kind of like that it's like you put money in the bank so when you retire you have something to to live off when you can no longer work the same thing I feel about food like you eat the right food so when you're older you you're able to have the energy and your body is functioning because you made the right choices so for me it's the same thing you know it's kind of making like just being kind of what is necessary here like do I really need this what do I need more do I need a roof over my head or do I need this this bags and this stuff do I need to take a taxi when I arrive to the model apartment when I'm 14 even though I never been to the city or can I take the subway and save the money so I can get the clothes for the casting and maybe I can get a job it's like it's kind of thinking like with the resources that I have right now what is the smartest how is the smartest way to use them I guess if you're like me never without a water bottle let's get it right people allow me to rock your world with my new favorite toy that's actually not a toy at all it's a non-negotiable essential camel backs Podium steel 100% % leak proof water bottle emphasis on leak proof for all 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it's you know what it is it's a character I always call call it her because I think being a MTO what I understood as being a motto is to play a character in a silent movie you know you get to experience all these different charact all these different aspects of of of being a woman let's say because one designer wants you to be more androgynous you know one designer was you know I remember diding a Balin Saga campaign I was like they made me a boy I was like literally like a week I was like a man a boy and in one I was like the sexy Versace campaign like you know like with big hair and like you know pushup bra you know so it was kind of like I got to play from the the androgynous girl to the very sexy to the tomb boy like I got to you know I mean you should see I don't know if you ever saw my book the other one that was like the 20 years I did a 20 well I watched the video that you did where you kind of went through it and you were talking about what was going on with you with each of those photographs yeah so it's it's it's it's really about kind of playing these different roles but it's just instead of you talking like you would be in a movie you're just you got to make the image that picture that one capture image to to it's a performance art it's a performance art but it's such a weird world I know that like Alexander McQueen he was like he was really the Catalyst right he was the guy who gave me the chance you know he gave me the the chance but when you watch his shows or some of these other shows like the designs are are stunning and gorgeous but they're also totally inaccessible it's like who wears this does anybody is there anybody in the world that even wear I mean if you're Lady Gaga I guess or somebody like that but like yeah it's a fantasy and so it's curious like how does that translate into I guess it's just how you feel and how you think about a particular designer or a brand and not so much about directly selling those designs to the person who's going to the department store or the boutique right yeah they're not thinking I don't even understand the business model of the whole thing yeah I me neither to be honest with you but I think it's a really I mean I think it has changed a lot uh since I started like I see a big shift because I think before there was a lot more creativity there was allowed a lot more creativity I think you know McQueen or JN galano you know the shows and stuff like you were like in a world like sure and the photographers being rock stars themselves oh yeah and and it was a I think it was a moment in time where there was so much less about selling but it was much more about the the inspiration and the aspir aspiring you know the aspiration of creating like a fantasy and like a and it was a lot of fun then I have to say at that time because I would have been dead I wouldn't have survived it I would have gone all in I would have been at every after hours party it would have been a disaster you see I was in bed like studying my astrology books like by 10 you know that was me I was like by 10 I was like oh no I have to go I was like I have to start early so I can go to bed early so for me it was a a different thing but um you know but I guess for me I also fell very responsible because I didn't want to one of the The Guiding lights for me I really believe was my parents because I saw how hard they work and I didn't want to disappoint them so I think part of like me being so stay on the line was like I'm not disappointing my parents I don't care if they're not here they are going to know what I'm doing like I remember part of the reason why I got so freaked out about the McQueen show and they sent me out like without a top because I couldn't speak English and they didn't even do a feeding anyway so then I was I was like oh my God if my parents see this they're GNA make me go back home and then I you know what is it like when you go internet but there was no internet in 1997 19 it wasn't so thank God because they didn't even saw that otherwi they would have been like what what are you doing I be like I don't know and you have five siblings right I have five sisters I'm a middle child I have two older sisters and two younger sisters and I'm a twin MH in the middle so we like the the sandwich like the cheese in the sandwich being Brazilian uh you're connected to the Amazon and to climate change issues and you've done a lot in terms of your environmental advocacy and clean water initiatives talk a little bit about how that began and and what that looked like now you know I um I've always been a big um basically like a child of nature I always tell my children when they ask you know what's your religion they say Mom we don't go to church I say you know what you're in church every day I say I say what do I say when people ask what my what my religion is I say love is your religion and nature is your church that's your Cathedral that's the big church that's our Temple you know so you honor your temple you love your temple you CU that's the only reason why we are all alive because this whole ecosystem is making it possible you know to grow our food to give us to provide us with all the things we need to survive so U and that's how I grew up I felt that way and especially having a grandmother that everything was from the earth you know she grew everything she ate and and uh you know the Earth was giving us the herbs that we needed to like when we fell ill and and I grew up in that way so when you grew up in that way and you grew up running around bare feet you know I come from a small village and anytime you want to eat something you grab there was like a tangerine tree or like a orange tree or is a plum tree and you just go and pick up the fruit from the tree we never bought fruits from the supermarket you know you go either you had it in your backyard or your neighbor had it or the other neighbor you know somebody had the fruit he wanted to eat you just go grab it so I think when you leave with that connection to Nature you have a different appreciation it's like so I feel like nature is just like it's it's it's me like I think we are n you know we are that and I think this connection from nature for me is not something it's just something I've always known you know is how I grew up and so for me um taking care of which I love which is nature is natural um so the but the first time I realized there was really problems happening is when I went to actually spend some time uh with the indigenous people in shingu area of the Amazon in the 2004 and that's when the first time I realized you know pesticide what's what pesticides were doing where mining was doing how they were contaminating the rivers and basically all the indigenous tribes they were living and depending on the that water they were getting sick and even though they were living very wholesomely you know with nature and you know by the impact that the big farms and different Mining and all that stuff was having um was really um having a really terrible impact in their in their their livelihoods and and that's when the first time I was like I need to do something about it and that's when I started like I had a flipflop line at the time in Brazil and we gave a percentage you know to that's actually a funny story the the the indigenous people and I was like I wonder what they would do with this with this funds but it was like a group that helped indigenous in Brazil and the funny enough when I did when I turned 40 this was in 2004 so I was like 24 cut to when I'm 40 2020 I was 40 um I wanted to do something for my 40th birthday and I was like oh I want to plant some trees in the in in the Amazon and how we going to do it so we looked around for who can help us do that and we contacted the the people that are working with the indigenous people that we knew in in Brazil and they're like we have the largest seed bank in the Amazon and we started with the money with the whole program that you gave in 2004 that money that was for the sale of the flipflops now years later they had the largest seed bank of you know the indigenous they they they collected the larger seed bank and this is how with that whole group of people we basically planted over 300,000 trees in that area of the Amazon so that was like years later so that's just how funny how life goes but for me because I was so connected to nature and I always wanted to help and my dad always said you know water is the most important thing and of course I saw that with the indigenous people because that's how they were all getting sick because all the the you know residue of Mining and and and pesticides were going into their water in my little village we were having a lot of problems with agriculture as well where there was a lot of runoffs from Roundup and all the stuff that they use in agriculture all the pesticides and stuff and it was getting a lot of people sick so we actually did the AGA limpa program in 200 I think it was 20 the N or I don't remember when we started but it was like a long time ago and I funded it and my dad who's also a sociologist worked with the university and we and we basically regenerated the whole area of the river that was kind of you know getting the water to the city and we were able to clean it it took us like a few years to do it you know it was pretty simple because all we had to do I mean it was not simple my dad is the one who did the work it was simpler for me I just kind of funded it but he was there every day he had to work with I don't know how many farmers you had to take their pie of land and kind of grow the native species Forest you know the native Forest back so then the there's a buffer there was a buffer and then the root systems could could filtrate it before all that stuff would go into the river and then that was the agal limpa project and that was one of the projects we did to clean the water and anyway so there's lots of different things but in overall thing my my thing is you know we got to take care of Mother Earth she takes care of us you know when people say to me oh we're going to save the planet I say you're that's such an ego thing you know as humans we think we're going to save anything the planets is in her own process of evolution this is a you know it's I mean dinosaurs were here before us and you know lur I mean so many different civilizations the planet will be fine that's what I always say I say please don't fool yourself I think we really saving ourselves we need to yeah I say there's no Sav we need re ourselves back yeah this is really about us protecting the resources and and taking care of what we really need for our survival because once we are gone the planet is going to regenerate I mean I've seen this over and over again the planet regenerates itself so quickly you know because it's it's just a very intelligent we need to learn from nature instead of like trying to control nature we need to just like take a humble pill and and learn from the Big Mama we've moved so far away from that and we do live in this dualistic mindset where we think there's you know our environments and then there's nature or there's us and that's outside um but really understanding that you're never out of nature as you as you said um I think it's the first point of trying to really deepen your relationship with the world in which you live we all live and share and I think when it comes to the Amazon like we all hear about deforestation and all the you know clearing that's going on for cattle grazing and the strip mining and all the stuff that you mentioned but it's an abstraction especially for you know people in North America like we know what's going on we know it's bad but I've never visited there like I've never seen it myself and you being Brazilian gives you kind of a deeper appreciation and understanding of the extent of it you know I think it's how people tell the story because I think it's a lot deeper than you know I think people like depending on the industry that wants to benefit from something that tell the story and they say okay this is what we're going to do is about the cing oh yeah it's so crazy a lot of NOS go in there and they say we're going to have an NGO because we're going to like protect Amazon but they're meantime they're the owners of the bigger paper company that comes from the Amazon they are just not you know what I mean so there it's not not all is as it seems no it's it's a very it's a wild wild west there and one of the biggest you know I've been there a few times and also done a lot of um just kind of like talking to people and understanding what happens there and a lot of the you know there's ancient Woods there and a lot of that goes to Europe so like what a lot of the the cattle for example is what they use to kind of occupy the land but what they're really after which is really valuable there is like gold and Min m you know the the rare medals the rare medals yeah the rare medals and the gold and all that stuff that's in there that's what interest this like you know the different um countries let's say they are not brail when they and because it's so corrupt unfortunately you know Brazil is very corrupt the politicians are very corrupt what happens is they sell those rights to those countries and then we have what we have and then the cattle like in the end they just kind of put them there because they have to occupy the land after they REM because they have to enter if you go there after they removed everything because they have to remove the value the value then they then they put all the cows there that's what they do so they remove the ancient wood they they remove the precious metals and and but they have to get there because if you fly over it it mean you're flying for hours over just a Green carpet so for you to have access to that you have to you can't just like clear cut because it grows so what they do to keep the the the forest from growing they just throw because it's very fertile the soil as soon as you cut because imagine that soil is been there like receiving all those back healthy bacteria from the leaves falling super fertile So within like three days you can Grass Grows Right and then in order for the trees not to keep growing because if you just leave abandon that's what's going to happen the birds are going to carry the seeds they're going to drop the seeds they're going to things are going to start growing again and then they won't have access you know so they kind of it's just like a cycle like but what is really after what they're really after it is the big stuff is the is the and and it's not unfortunately you know it's h it's so sad you know is greed mhm in the end of the day is greed and is greed by people that you know they don't have those natural resources where they are and and they understand the situation in Brazil and how corrupt the this the the 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their best interest from a wellness perspective I think the number one thing I feel is like monkey see monkey does right I think you have to be the example you have to leave it um cuz I think whatever you say is one thing and whatever you do you they need to kind they need to whatever you say whatever you do they have to be the same thing right sympatico yeah they have to be sympatico and um and that's what it is and and I think for the kids for my kids were were a lot easier because I was home a lot with them so I was you know taking them to school every day making their breakfast you know just having my Gardens at home growing the food so when the kids would come for play dates at the house you know my kids were grabbing like everything raw cucumbers carrots like green beans they were just grabbing it from the garden and like collecting things and putting in the basket it was like a game for them and it was like oh friends are coming over why are we going to grab for the for to Door picnic outside and then so they grew up in that way you know they they uh so it was easier for me to feed them healthier food and and and and explain to them you know we always compost it we had bees at our house um so you know they they were learning about you know when The Beekeeper would come and they explain you know how much be how much honey can you take and how much money how much honey do you leave for the bees and how does a the how does a queen bee work and all the so they were they're emotionally connected they were emotionally connected they were part of that like I was as a kid so um so for them is really natural and they were also homeschooled for the last three years um during the you know the whole pandemic thing I and we moved from Boston to Tampa so um it was a whole new world for them so I I homeschooled them and now they just went back to school but I have to tell you I see a huge difference especially because my son is 14 now so he wants to kind of push back this is what I'm getting at oh yeah well how old kid well they range from 28 to 16 and each one of there's four and each of them is different um but it's a delicate dance because you know we raised our kids similarly um but they reach a certain age and part of individuation and maturing is taking ownership for your own choices and understanding what you stand for and what you don't and in order to really Define that and hone that you have to go out and kind of push the envelope and try new things otherwise it's just something you're doing because that's the way you were raised and that's what your parents told you as opposed to really owning it for yourself and so so we have learned that you have to have the brains very loose and and let them go out and do what they want to do and control the environment at home but be you know very kind of nonplused if they go and make a choice that you wouldn't make or whatever and just be curious about it and allow them the space to do that and you know you hope they come back and you know do it the way you taught them to um and sometimes they do and sometimes they don't and again every one of them is different in our case but as they get to a certain point and especially you know when they're with peers and friends and they're in social situations those things they have to learn for themselves and you have to allow them to I think it's so interesting so you have to let go a little bit oh let go and let God yeah I tell myself that is like a mantra you know and and and I I I remind myself of like my mom let me leave home she emancipated me and I was leing in Japan at 14 and there was no cell phones like I call you know can you imagine doing that for one of your children right now no and actually you know what it's so funny because I was having a conversation with my son about that he um he was complaining you know I have chores in my house you know kids have to do their chores so set the table wash the dishes you know now I make a point you know I cook at you know they come from school I'm cooking you know they so one has to set the table whoever sets the table the other has to wash the dishes and there is like you have to clean your room you have to do the basic stuff you know my daughter is doing amazingly she loves it and she's like really good and very proud of herself mom look how good I cleaned the dishes like she's really good and she's washing herself she's not putting it in the machine she wants to learn how to really wash it and and and do it right and she's very focused on it my son is like always like why do I have to do this you know so actually we had like a breakthrough this Christmas this this whole holiday season because I said he says to me I'm going to leave home when I'm 18 mom and I don't know if I'm going to go to college you didn't go to college you didn't go to school I'm going to just leave home when I'm 18 and I'm going to do this and I'm going to do that I'm like okay that's great so you're going to leave in your own apartment and who's going to cook for you and who's going to wash your dishes and who's going to clean your clothes who's going to do that and he's like for a second he's like because you're not going to have a chef and like a you know like and he was thinking for a second and I say well this is why when mommy tells you to do those things at home you know is because I want to give you more tools for your tool boox because when you learn how to do those things and they become second nature to you then you don't even have to think about it you become empowered to do it for yourself you don't depend on anybody and that's nothing it's amazing to be able to do that I said you know what made me feel so like strong and capable when I left my home because my mom taught me how to do those things so when I left home and I was leaving by myself at 14 years old I was first at 13 at 14 I moved to Japan but because I was leaving in the mod's apartment I was the only person there who knew how to clean cook iron do absolutely everything in the house because my mom taught me and it was easy for me I didn't think it was a struggle I was happy to do it and I was happy to to do it for the other girls that didn't know how to do it but if you're going to be planning on leaving on your own at 18 who do you think is going to do all those things for you so all I'm telling you is like take advantage that mommy's here for you right now and I'm able to teach you all those things and you can do it at your time I'm not telling you like at this time you have to wash the dishes so let me just help you I'm going to create a list for you and you just have to do them and you can decide if you want to wash clothes once or twice a week you can decide if you want to wash the dishes right after dinner or before you go to bed whatever you want but if you learn how to do those things you're going to see how empowered you're going to feel and the more tools we can put like the more things like the simple things like that that you can learn and that you can equip your tool box to do you're just going to be just that much like capable and and and there's nothing more fulfilling than feeling like you're able to do stuff that you're capable and then he looked at me and he's like okay mom so when we get back home you give me that list and I'm going to do it I'm like I wow I was going to say like he actually he actually receiv that I I think I have a breakthrough I think I got a breakthrough with the hormones are raging like whatever mom you know storming off like you can get you can get that reaction too that was good good job don't you think that was a good thing but but I used but you see it was a moment that I used what he said because when he thought to himself that's true how am I going to do all that stuff I said you don't want to live in like a you know a messy stinky place that is not clean like you know you want to like have you know so you need to know how to do this stuff and I think all I I see like all the things that happen in life like that like different tools we acquire you know even the job that I you know my job like all the tools that I've acquired in this job all the things that I've learned to do um that I don't know when I'm going to use I use them for my job but maybe I'm going to they going to be useful like in 20 years from my life sure but you came from very different circumstances it's the it's the Peril of success right like you and and the kid's dad like worked very hard to achieve all of these things in life and now they're reared in you know like an insane degree of privilege and it becomes more difficult to instill that kind of work ethic into somebody who you know grows up that way I think you're correct I think it becomes a lot more difficult but I think goes back to the discipline and it goes back to priorities and I think it for me it becomes about what kind of you know I I feel like I'm their Guardian because we don't possess our children right I mean we just come here they come through us but they're as much as our teachers as we are they're teachers and we're constantly learning and teaching you know in every relationship in our life and and I feel that we get this moment in time which is very short in a way that we get to influence our children because then they go I mean look at my parents they had 14 years to influence me then I was out in the world and I never went back and I keep remembering like what are all the things that if they wouldn't have taught me those things where would I be today and I'm so grateful for them for for those lessons and I feel like yes I grew up in very different circumstances than my kids and it is a bit more challenging to have them you know make their bed and wash the dishes and clean their you know when I have a person that can do it too but I make a point of me doing it so then they learn that oh Mommy's doing the dinner Mommy is making the breakfast mommy is so they're like weel you have to model and I feel like it's a different kind of modeling is it is the type of modeling that I prefer it's it's the type of modeling that I find to be the important type of modeling because that's the you know I mean what's Mo the most important thing you're going to do in your life I feel like raising children is is by far the most challenging thing I've ever done and the most uh fulfilling at the same time and you know but I feel that if if I if I don't do that if I don't equip my children to be good capable assets you know for themselves in their lives if they're not going to be then I fail I I feel yeah you haven't done your job then I haven't done my job I mean I feel that's my job I mean that's a job I do to kind of make a living so I can like you know put foot on the table and have but my real job as as I think as a as a mom and I chose to be a mom so I have to show up for my kids and I feel like this things that my you know I think is really what shaped me and what made me who I am today was definitely the upbringing that I had and and what my parents how they guided me and I feel like that's really important so I make that a priority in my life to make sure that my kids are going to have even though they don't have those same needs you know to do those things because my mom didn't have a a person she could pay to come clean the house we had to you clean the bathroom you clean the you know it was like a list all of us have to share between us who's going to do what and we grew up that way and it was kind of fun because you know I was always I always love the cleaning part you know I love organizing and cleaning I feel like a clean house is a clean mind is like a what's out is in you know if like if everything is organized outside I can think um and I tell my kids that and I feel that um if I can really get them to do those simple things in life you know and and learn those things and teach them how to be self-sufficient and capable human beings I feel like I've done my job and then I can rest and then whatever else they do the choices they make if they choose to eat the food that I fed them when they were little if now they want to go eat you know whatever or I mean it's going to be what they're going to do you know they're going to choose their friends hopefully they they choose wisely because in the end of the day they're going to be the one dealing with the consequences of their actions and I always tell them like listen you know you're going to go out there and you're going to make the Cho whatever choice you make there are going to be consequences you're dealing with those consequences me this is your life and sometimes they need to they need to make those mistakes and face those consequences like we had I mean how many mistakes that I mean I have and those those experiences are formative like I'm sure if you look in the rear view mirror and think about the panic attacks that you were having on airplanes and your inability to get into an elevator and you know this desire to jump off your balcony on some level you wouldn't wish that experience on anybody but you probably wouldn't wna change your experience either because it's set in motion this whole sensibility and way of being that you now have and I think with kids they regardless of whether they hear you in the moment or whether they go out into the world and make a bunch of mistakes like they come back yeah and whatever you taught them it's in there and at some point when they're ready or whatever like they return to it and you know and and I think to to trust that it's very important and I also feel like because if you try to overly control it you're going to drive them away absolutely and and you know I think for me I keep going back to me as a kid and the trust my parents had in me to let me go and I wouldn't be who I am today if it wasn't for them trusting in me and for all the mistakes that I've made and then had to come the other side and figure out for myself so I think it's important to give our children the Dignity of Their Own process you know because we had a dignity you know we have to go through our own process to become who we are and I think as long as they know that we are there and what what is our values you know is like those things that are important what is what is that we stand for what's important for us you know as as as as a as a value as a core value as as as a being a good human being and a good person and if you thought that your children and and they and they got it in the end of the day they're going to go out there in the world and they're going to have to make their mistakes and I I think the best thing you can do for them it's is just be there for them whenever they they come back and if they want your help you know and I think it's it's hard because you want to protect them like you can put Bobble wrap on them so like nothing will touch them and they will be safe but in the end of the day that's unrealistic and it's like it doesn't work anyway you know what I like this idea you know there's a metaphor of the butterfly imagine the caterpillar as she's transforming into becoming the butterfly she's you know eating eating all the you know until she finally starts spinning into a cocoon and and then she has to like go through that whole stous process if you ever seen like you know they turn into GP yeah but they're like but it's exactly it's just and it's really kind of like hard to like when they're coming out it's like really awkward and it looks like they're very strenuous and very difficult so if you go in there and you try to help them come out you're going to them you're going to the butterfly and she won't be able to have the strength she needs struggle is the struggle is what crucial to the the growth and you have to give them the Dignity of their own process you have to be and I and I keep reminding myself I cannot take away that opportunity for them because my parents gave me the opportunity for me to go through my own challenges and I grew and and I want my kids to have that same opportunity because whoever they're going to become is going to be based on what their choice is and hopefully I gave them enough good examples and and and good um values where they would make the choices that is right for them you know what is it that you want people to understand or take away from the new book and and how you are modeling this lifestyle um whether it's dietary changes Lifestyle Changes uh movement practices how can somebody who is interested in kind of leveling up across the board begin the process of of making those changes in their life you know it's funny you know because when I decided to do a cookbook I'm the farthest thing there is from a chef let me tell you something I I am not a chef let me just like let's be honest you've got a private Chef in home that person is taking care of everything not anymore I used to you don't anymore no I don't I don't it's no the last two years I don't you're cooking your own meals yes I'm cooking my own meals yeah I I grew up there way and I want like I told you like my priority is showing my kids what I believe it's important for them and and and I can't I can't say oh this is important and then I have and I'm not doing it you know what I mean so it has to be cohesive right and and I think that for me um really being like living what I believe is very important and I was showing my kids that this is important to me like the only way I'm going to show them that is by doing that so yes I had chefs and this is how I learn how to cook a lot of the things a lot of the recipes in the book are like inspired by the things that I created with the chefs that I throughout the years I had the opportunity to you know to really work with Incredible people incredible Chef people that love food as much as I do because I love food um but was really an idea for me to look I can say go and meditate go and exercise you know I believe meditation I believe rest I believe um exercise I believe nutrition all of those things are extremely important for you to be able to take kind of ownership of your health and really take care of yourself and have and work on just having a more clear mind and just feeling more connected to yourself I think all of those things are different aspects of it but the reason about the cookbook is quite frankly I was seeing kids were coming to our house and in play dates and and moms will come and be like how did you get my kid to eat broccoli or roasted vegetables or and it was like so simple and I was like oh maybe we can share how to make some simple recipes that are super easy you can make it like in 10 minutes and you know moms some you know you just sometimes feel overwhelmed and I know because life is busy there's so so much going on so I was like how can I help in this way and also I feel like food is a perfect time for you to practice being present and mindful because you can eat like on a rush and not being present and the food have a one effect in your body or you can do something which is what I talk about in the book is like every time I look at my food not only the act of preparing your food there so much loves and you're touching the food and you're connecting with your food that's one thing but even if you're not the one cooking your food just to take a moment to bless your food to acknowledge that that is something that is alive that you're taking it and you're that's also your source of life you know so it's kind of like connecting to the food in that way I think it it does something because everything is energy so you're having a transfer of energy with something and with the intention that you're eating it has a different I I feel huge you know when I start doing that does make a difference how he has a different just being present and being connected to what you're doing having gratitude for that moment and you get to do that three times a day you know I mean now I have a juice once a day but I still blast my juice but it's just kind of like it's just this book what I would like to to to for people to take is like it can be really simple it doesn't have to be complicated to to eat healthy and really like if you have plans you know my mom taught me you know since I was a kid like no food waste so how can we organize our meals so can there's a big thing about like reducing waste yeah there for me that's huge and also like me planning like if you're going to buy because or you know food sourcing that's huge it's not about having something with a lot of condiments and a lot of stuff it's just like keep it simple but buying really great quality products like if you can do that and then instead of like because a lot of people are like oh and then you buy organic and then you throw it out because it's like you know it spoils much faster and I'm like yeah but if you have a meal planning and I and I teach that I kind of give some suggestions in the book like my mom did that I grew up like that because she didn't have time you know she was working all the time so she had like in the fridge like what we going to have for the whole week so she would go to the groceries and she would buy and then the things were allowed to the next day so you would always know what we were eating and things that wouldn't be eaten could be easily transferred for the next day and be made into the next organiz so that nothing spoils and you're so nothing spoils and you never had food waste because you're always taking it from one day to the next so is never wasting you always	my grandmother wasn't there so finally you know I wasn't going to take any medication because just the idea of taking something I was like I was normal before how can I go back being what I was you know like I I I didn't have these issues so what's happening long story short I found this doctor I had to replace my habits it was that simple I had to replace these habits that had created the reality I was living at that moment which was you know um really killing me in in so many ways you know killing my spirit killing my and and I replace it with good habits so now instead of smoking cigarettes and having a mocha frappuccino in the morning I'll would go out and do breath work and go out for a run and you know I replace in one day I gave up everything because he he looked at me he said jelle he called me Adrenalina he says do you want to live and I said I do he's like so we going to CH change my diet and that's for the first time in my life that I realized that I I was really like the one who got myself there and I was the only person who could get myself out by the choices that I was making so I had to take full responsibility for what I had created but it was in my power only in	8	6	8	my grandmother wasn't there so finally you know I wasn't going to take any medication because just the idea of taking something I was like I was normal before how can I go back being what I was you know like I I I didn't have these issues so what's happening long story short I found this doctor I had to replace my habits it was that simple I had to replace these habits that had created the reality I was living at that moment which was you know um really killing me in in so many ways you know killing my spirit killing my and and I replace it with good habits so now instead of smoking cigarettes and having a mocha frappuccino in the morning I'll would go out and do breath work and go out for a run and you know I replace in one day I gave up everything	do you want to live	2,-3,5	8,6,9	2	-3	5	8	6	9
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjK5ahIgsHA	4,193	rjK5ahIgsHA	2024-03-25 00:00:00	the choices that you're making are really either supporting you or not straight from the pages of Victoria Secret please welcome jaelle bunin gazelle bunin gazelle has walked in nearly 500 fashion shows and great the covers of more than 1,200 different magazines on paper like you're perhaps highly unrelatable you know what it is it's a character that's the job I do to kind of make a living so I can like you know put foot on the table raising children is is by far the most challenging thing I've ever done it's a different kind of modeling is the type of modeling that I prefer food is a perfect time for you to practice being present and mindful because it can be really simple it doesn't have to be complicated to eat healthy nature is just like it's me instead of like trying to control nature we need to just like take a humble pill and and learn from the Big Mama [Music] today's episode is brought to you by the awesome organizations that make this show [Music] possible so nice to meet you nice to meet you too so excited to have you here today yes when this opportunity presented itself I was like of course I want to talk to Jazelle and then I had my own like sort of mini panic attack we're going to get into panic attacks I'm like what could I possibly talk to this person about the alltime great super model of all time everybody knows this on paper like you're perhaps highly unrelatable but then the more you dig into your story and the more I kind of learned about your Arc and your past and what brought you to this place there's so much that's deeply relatable and your kind of transformation story is remarkably similar to mine although you did yours at like 23 I was 40 um but there's so much in there so I thought it would be cool to kind of um talk a little bit about what it was like what happened and how you made these changes in your life because I think you're in this interesting new season right now where despite the fact that you've been this Wellness Advocate and wellness Warrior for a long time my sense is that there's a there's a more full Embrace of of that now with kind of how you see yourself and what's important to you a well thank you for the introduction you know the funny thing is I you know people's you know what I did for a living is something that kind of just happened to me at 14 years old you know it was it was like hey do you want to be a model and I thought oh I can help my family you know I can do make a living and and help you know I have five sisters and and all that so modeling to me is something that is um an opportunity that came along like I think in life you have these opportunities that either you take that train and then see where it goes you know and I never even believed that this was going to take me and I was going to be doing this for almost 30 years you know it's it's one of those things that I was like oh I'll start doing this job and you know send money home and help my sisters go through school and do all that and um and maybe in five years you know I'll get a house because I didn't even go to school you know I I I was emancipated at 14 yeah you were in Tokyo at 14 I was living in Japan without speaking English and J or Japanese and that's when I when I start learning the language of of of energy you know what I mean because you don't have to understand the language you just have to feel you know something there's a lot more that has been said without words you know sure so I start learning about that um but I think that I went through this journey of modeling which was something I thought was going to last five years and I was just going to help my family out for a little bit and it just kept going you know it just kept happening you know I I didn't even think you can have longevity in this career because it's not what I what I saw really around me happening um but you know I kept it kept working out so I kept doing it and it was kind of a Mindless thing you know when you got in the hamster wheel and I think we do that sometimes in life and you're so young you don't know and you Liv the fast life and all of that so in my early 20s I um developed you know anxiety and panic attacks and all that because you know when you drink a bottle of wine and that because you like I used to be a smoker so I smoke I can't even imagine I used to smoke it feels like a whole different life you know but um it was the late 90s and there was a lot of um drugs and fashion and all that so I thought I was saying just because I was like having some wine and smoking cigarettes everybody was doing way worse things than yeah I'm sure you've seen a lot I've seen a lot yeah that's a whole other show about that that's a whole other story but yeah so um you know so that was the beginning for me to start reconnecting with myself because I think when I was 14 and I got that train my only focus was like how can I be the best that I can do on this and and and that was my focus and and I didn't meure any sacrifice he was like if I had to work 360 days a year and I felt like I couldn't say no because people were giving me a chance and then I was like in this really overdrive uh and burn down my adrenals I found out later when I found this amazing natural Doctor Who told me like listen you don't have any more adrenal they're shut down because you burn them basically I'm like but I'm only 22 you know so um basically I had to change the habits that I you know smoking a pack of cigarettes drinking alcohol every day to myself down coffee all day to keep myself up and also going from you know one time zone to the next I was three days in Paris two days in London one day in New York going back to you know my life was in a living in a suitcase and of course your nervous system is going to freak out you know and the way I was eating it was very you know anything that was in front of me I was just like not mindful about anything you know I was just kind of um like a Workhorse and when that happen to me is when I you know I come from a family that is very my my grandmother had a tea for everything so we never had we were not the kind of you know you get sick let me see this herbal remedy that we you know so yeah you grew up in kind of a small village right in Brazil your grandmother was cultivating herbs and she was the person that everyone would go to for their remedy so you have this sort of background and connection you know with the Earth exactly that you know is kind of lingering in the back of your mind when you're just you know hammering nails and and you know drinking wine and living that life but you're young it's like that's kind of what your 20s are for kind of and you're you're on this like Jet Plane I mean figuratively and literally like your career's taking off on top of that a people pleasing tendency where you feel like you have to say yes to everything and you're just go go go go go yeah and and I think but that was a big wakeup call for me because I think sometimes you know you have to reach rock bottom and when I had that those anxiety and they start becoming like almost CRI because I couldn't get on planes he was just you know I was going to all these doctors and they were like you have to take this stuff and I was just afraid of taking anything because I've never taken anything you know I was a there was a t for for this there you know my grandmother wasn't there so finally you know I wasn't going to take any medication because just the idea of taking something I was like I was normal before how can I go back being what I was you know like I I I didn't have these issues so what's happening long story short I found this doctor I had to replace my habits it was that simple I had to replace these habits that had created the reality I was living at that moment which was you know um really killing me in in so many ways you know killing my spirit killing my and and I replace it with good habits so now instead of smoking cigarettes and having a mocha frappuccino in the morning I'll would go out and do breath work and go out for a run and you know I replace in one day I gave up everything because he he looked at me he said jelle he called me Adrenalina he says do you want to live and I said I do he's like so we going to CH change my diet and that's for the first time in my life that I realized that I I was really like the one who got myself there and I was the only person who could get myself out by the choices that I was making so I had to take full responsibility for what I had created but it was in my power only in my power to change that there were no doctors nobody who was going to save me I had to change um you know the choices I was making and I and I did that and it was incredible because after over a year and a half like really struggling with anxiety and panic attacks and all that within 3 months I was like I never had another incident and it was you know and and once you start meditating I mean at that point this was 20 years ago right it wasn't like people were talking about meditation and yoga any other that um it was just um you know when you sit in silence and you and you reflect which is what we don't really give ourselves time to do because the world is so fastpaced and everything is catching your attention is trying to throw you off your Center you know everything is so busy it's like an overload of information to have that space to go inside and reflect and look and really take a step back I think that was the biggest blessing of my life so really I think what could have killed me is what gave me a whole new life and it was amazing because since then like everything changed like I realized that food is my medicine I realized that I am the director of my own movie that I'm creating my reality based on the choices that I'm making but what I'm choosing to not the people I'm choosing to have around in my life but what type of energy what kind of thoughts I allow to what am I feeding you know what kind of thoughts am I so all of that so that became like a big um changing of seasons for me in my early 20s what were those first couple weeks like if you went completely cold turkey on all of these bad habits I think it was like a drug addict I never was a I guess I was a drug etic only legal drugs because I guess alcohol is a drug and so is cigarettes nicotine and all that and caffeine and all that but they're like socially accepted but I tell you that I had the worst migraine I mean I felt like the I mean maybe that's what a person who's going like you have gone to to rehab right so I'm I don't know what you felt I would love to hear but I for me it was like right I mean I don't know about that sub it's the only way I know how to do it though I don't understand how people kind of phase out of stuff like you have to for me you have to draw the line and step over it and it's going to suck and you're going to be uncomfortable for a while while um but you know that on the other side of that lies all of this opportunity and possibility um but uh and that's what happened to me I think there was that because what I knew I knew that what I was and what if you do what you've always done you're going to get what you've always gotten is that simple and what I realized at that moment that what I what I created for myself was not what I wanted I needed to a drastic change and then he was like draw the line stopped everything in one day and the migraines and all of that like the consequences of what I had done I had to deal with them you know it took me like two weeks I think I was like having the worst migraines just because I didn't know if it was the nicotine the caffeine the alcohol I don't know what it was but it was all of it together and um but then it was amazing because from that experience I I became so much stronger and I and there are lots of different things that happen in my life after that I feel like every time we get tested it's like the Super Mario you know like the little video game when you go to do the big boss like you go through all the phases and you go to level one the big boss is like one it's okay to defeat that one but then the second one is like a tough for big boss and then the third one is you know it's like it's life I feel like that's what life is you get like the new tools so you get equipped and then you go to the next challenge that is a bigger one and then is a bigger one I feel like that's why we're here you know to keep seeing how we can expand how much more we can to grow to evolve to expand to see how strong and how creative and how you know how can how much we can experience of all this wonder how did you how did you plug that into the fast-paced life of of your modeling career because it's one thing if you're living a more kind of grounded atome lifestyle where you can control your food and your environment a little bit better but when you're flying all over the world and you're on these sets and there's craft service and it's junk food like you have to be way ahead of the curve to prepare everything to have everything kind of organized for yourself because how do you you if you're in just hotels all over the place and you arrive at midnight like how are you getting your you know like how did so how did you manage all of that you have to be very discipline I think you know when I I did this book called lessons and um and it was like everything starts to discipline that was like my first chapter and that's what I believe you have to decide you have and then you have to have the discipline to follow through so once you realize that these choices that you are making are having a positive impact in your life you want to continue doing them you know what I mean you don't want to fall back and just something that it didn't feel good that's your past like you don't want to go back there again so you're going to stick to the plan like this is what's working and this is what made me feel good again so I'm going to stick to this and of course it's not 100% you have to be compassionate with yourself too and say you I'll be like you know life is hard as it is you need to bit yourself in the head sometimes if you go and you oh you know I had like um I was exhausted I had like a banana bread or something or I had you know but I think you realize that the choices that you're making are are really either supporting you or not you know supporting you living the life that making you feel good and living the life that you want and is taking to the direction where you want to go or not and then it's just kind of an easier choice to make right and then I feel like when I go to the jobs you know I got to the point in my life where people know how I eat and you know I can tell people like listen this is what I want I want you got extensive riter yeah I kind of you know because I was already working for so long so I I have you know I got to the I guess really the privilege to be able to to kind of say like this is the kind of things that I would like to eat so please at the job you know if you're working 10 12 hours in a studio can we have these things available you know what I mean so then it was easier to keep the food healthy you know um because I think that's so important and then just to say I feel like and then saying no to those things you know like coffee or alcohol or things that I was just so used to because I was still in that same environment the environment hadn't changed I had changed but all of that was around me still but then it was just a choice of saying you know I feel great and I haven't drank alcohol in over two years now too this is something you know I even when I went back drinking after it was very moderate you know I was still like like I would drink socially sometimes you know peer pressure sometimes like oh come on have a drink you know and then you like feel like especially in my world I mean everyone pretty much is like socially having a drink so I would be like okay I'll have a drink but then he got to a point that I was like and that was like 20 years later because it just happened over two years ago I was like I don't want to drink like I don't care what anyone thinks and I don't care if they have Fe peer pressure I'm going to have my Min tea my cam tea and if they want to drink I'm not making anyone feel bad about drinking they can do whatever they want this is their Temple you know this is my temple I get to choose and they shouldn't make me feel bad that I don't want to you know so um then I kind of stood up for myself I think that happens after your 40s like you care less about what other people think and um wait till you're 50 oh my God I can't wait for that I'm gonna like he's he's gonna be amazing but I think the thing you mentioned you mentioned like being directed and and and being kind of dedicated to your path and and and I feel like that's the underappreciated aspect of of understanding you and your career a lot of people arrive in New York City every single day with a similar dream or ambition that you had when you were a young person and you arrived there and a lot of those people are very beautiful you're beautiful but that doesn't tell the story of how you translated like an opportunity into the career that you had and I think between the lines there is an intense work ethic and a very intentional approach to what you were doing like how did you apply those skills like what is the differentiator between you and the career that you've enjoyed versus you know the other beautiful people who aren't enjoying the same kind of career you can't and you're not allowed to say luck or you're you know no I don't believe I don't believe in luck I don't believe in luck I believe in hard work and but I believe in um I mean I think discipline but I also believe that I always treated everyone the way I like to be treated and I've always was appreciative I have this immense sense of gratitude for just being there so even though you know people were like oh you know you you know when I was 19 I was like I want the model of you know the model of the year and everybody's like how does it feel to be it didn't really it doesn't matter to me because quite frankly I never saw myself as a motel it's just not something I didn't drink the Kool-Aid I didn't believe because I was a model or because I I became successful in this job like I was better than anybody I just and I didn't believe that I believe that I just got to learn that craft really well and I understood what the job entail and like I learned how to do the job really well but by no means is what defined me it's just something I did it's not it's not who I am I don't know if you know it's like I go there I had this opportunity at you know 13 14 years old when I finally left home and and and and St pursued this career that really I thought it was just really I did it for the money I did it because I was like what else am I going to do at 14 years old that I can help my family you know I don't have any other jobs that are offering me an opportunity so I'll take this one so for me it was really like a job so I never like it didn't kind of Define me I kind of did it my way like I never became like you know it was like oh it needs to be glamorous I was never glamorous I'm a jeans and t-shirt type of girl like I if I needed to go to parties or hang out with this type of people I never did any of that like I went there I did my job I did the best that I could I never was late in my life for my jobs like never showed up like late I was there before everyone I was there 100% you know I I I just wanted to make sure that if people were booking me and they they were trusting in me that I was going to show up and deliver you know and I think that's kind of what it was I did it my way you know and it didn't broke me kind of Cu I saw you know people in this business you know you can lose yourself because if you drink the Kool-Aid if you start thinking you know like you lose yourself in it I never lost myself it was just a job and it's still just a job I can't even believe I'm still doing it sometimes I go in and I do it you it's not it's not what I do full- time anymore but it's just one of those things that you know I got to do this I got to make a career out of it and got to make a great living and help my family and I I have wonderful you know I got to travel the world and learn different languages and and and all of that and that's how I see it I don't see it as a you know I don't see myself you're not defined by it you're not you're not caught up in in the kind of dark underbelly of that very strange world this whole world is like almost like a parallel reality for me you know what I mean if something is like a switch on button I go there I do my job I take my picture I turn it off I go home and I have the same friends I have my my family I'm very close with my family but I think you're very good at seeing opportunities when they arise and you tell a little story in in in the new book about being 14 and on route to Tokyo and your parents gave you your dad gave you a little bit of money that was intended for getting a cab from that's the first day arve in s Paulo and instead of using that money oh it was you were super young right so you had a little bit of money to take a tab and you had the presence of mind to say this money would be better spent buying some clothes so I can do better in my auditions or whatnot um which isn't like that's not normal like that's somebody who's thinking ahead who's planning long term who's understanding that they have an opportunity in front of them and trying to figure out how to make the most out of it with limited resources and I think that speaks to or says a lot about your sensibility or your perspective as a business person yeah I mean it's so interesting to see it that way I mean I for me at that moment in time you know I I I just felt like I did something else than that you know that was one of the things and now that you're saying that I actually did that throughout because I bought my first apartment when I was 19 years old and when everybody was buying you know designer bags all the models and you know like remember I didn't know I was going to last in this business I thought like I didn't go to school I didn't go to high school I didn't you know I I left I I went to work and whenever I go I go back I thought I was going to be a farmer or something because I just always love the land and but I I didn't think like you know like where am I going to go from here so I have to make sure that I have at least a place to live I'm a cancer so I want to have like a stable home and when I was 19 you know people start flying me first class because I was like the model of the year right saw all the clients now are paying me first class I was exchanging those tickets for Coach classes because I was every two three days in a different country and instead of paying um my you know a rent in an apartment I pay I put down a down payment for an apartment and then I was paying my mortgage instead of paying rent and you're 19 and I was 19 so I I own my first apartment as 19 years old it was like a in in New York City it was like facing a wall of another building mind you he was like a very apartment you know that does require some maturity and some long-term thinking well well because I just thought to myself like you know I don't know how long I'm going to stay here you know I i' I at least I have to have a place to live if I like I'm not going to live empty-handed you know what I mean like what do I care about a bag or like what is that going to give me it's not going to be a roof over my head I need to make sure that I have that I can spend in the right places but I think that sense came from my mother because we grew up you know my mother was a cashier in the bank my father had like lots of different jobs like he had a real estate job but he was you know my mom they literally we we were like really simple people and grew up in two bedrooms with six girls and and and money was all always tight so I learned how to is the same thing in the book is like how do you prepare how do you not waste food I mean everything is like I think in my life I was kind of like raised that way you know what I mean kind of plan ahead like for tomorrow so you make sure that you have like food for everyone like like we're going to reuse the meat we cook on the barbecue and we're going to put it in the rice we're going to have carera so we're going to have an abundant meal because we have the rest of the you know what I mean it's kind of like that it's like you put money in the bank so when you retire you have something to to live off when you can no longer work the same thing I feel about food like you eat the right food so when you're older you you're able to have the energy and your body is functioning because you made the right choices so for me it's the same thing you know it's kind of making like just being kind of what is necessary here like do I really need this what do I need more do I need a roof over my head or do I need this this bags and this stuff do I need to take a taxi when I arrive to the model apartment when I'm 14 even though I never been to the city or can I take the subway and save the money so I can get the clothes for the casting and maybe I can get a job it's like it's kind of thinking like with the resources that I have right now what is the smartest how is the smartest way to use them I guess if you're like me never without a water bottle let's get it right people allow me to rock your world with my new favorite toy that's actually not a toy at all it's a non-negotiable essential camel backs Podium steel 100% % leak proof water bottle emphasis on leak proof for all you Gearheads this is built for the bike but honestly this simple but elegant stainless steel Contraption is built for anything and everything it keeps whatever you put in it cold for hours and straight up goes everywhere I do for all you weight weenies out there Campell back actually also offers an ultra lightweight titanium version very beautiful shall we level up yes we shall because right now Campell back is offering an exclusive discount just for you all my people so stop what you're doing and type up Campell back.com sign up with your email and use my code Rich Roll for 20% off your entire purchase at checkout or you can click the link in the description [Music] below there feels like a distinction a difference between jizelle bunin and the things that you care about being this sort of homebody family person holistic lifestyle like all of this stuff and then you know Gizelle the the runway you know on the runway like it's almost an alter ego it might be an alter ego he said but it's you know what it is it's a character I always call call it her because I think being a MTO what I understood as being a motto is to play a character in a silent movie you know you get to experience all these different charact all these different aspects of of of being a woman let's say because one designer wants you to be more androgynous you know one designer was you know I remember diding a Balin Saga campaign I was like they made me a boy I was like literally like a week I was like a man a boy and in one I was like the sexy Versace campaign like you know like with big hair and like you know pushup bra you know so it was kind of like I got to play from the the androgynous girl to the very sexy to the tomb boy like I got to you know I mean you should see I don't know if you ever saw my book the other one that was like the 20 years I did a 20 well I watched the video that you did where you kind of went through it and you were talking about what was going on with you with each of those photographs yeah so it's it's it's it's really about kind of playing these different roles but it's just instead of you talking like you would be in a movie you're just you got to make the image that picture that one capture image to to it's a performance art it's a performance art but it's such a weird world I know that like Alexander McQueen he was like he was really the Catalyst right he was the guy who gave me the chance you know he gave me the the chance but when you watch his shows or some of these other shows like the designs are are stunning and gorgeous but they're also totally inaccessible it's like who wears this does anybody is there anybody in the world that even wear I mean if you're Lady Gaga I guess or somebody like that but like yeah it's a fantasy and so it's curious like how does that translate into I guess it's just how you feel and how you think about a particular designer or a brand and not so much about directly selling those designs to the person who's going to the department store or the boutique right yeah they're not thinking I don't even understand the business model of the whole thing yeah I me neither to be honest with you but I think it's a really I mean I think it has changed a lot uh since I started like I see a big shift because I think before there was a lot more creativity there was allowed a lot more creativity I think you know McQueen or JN galano you know the shows and stuff like you were like in a world like sure and the photographers being rock stars themselves oh yeah and and it was a I think it was a moment in time where there was so much less about selling but it was much more about the the inspiration and the aspir aspiring you know the aspiration of creating like a fantasy and like a and it was a lot of fun then I have to say at that time because I would have been dead I wouldn't have survived it I would have gone all in I would have been at every after hours party it would have been a disaster you see I was in bed like studying my astrology books like by 10 you know that was me I was like by 10 I was like oh no I have to go I was like I have to start early so I can go to bed early so for me it was a a different thing but um you know but I guess for me I also fell very responsible because I didn't want to one of the The Guiding lights for me I really believe was my parents because I saw how hard they work and I didn't want to disappoint them so I think part of like me being so stay on the line was like I'm not disappointing my parents I don't care if they're not here they are going to know what I'm doing like I remember part of the reason why I got so freaked out about the McQueen show and they sent me out like without a top because I couldn't speak English and they didn't even do a feeding anyway so then I was I was like oh my God if my parents see this they're GNA make me go back home and then I you know what is it like when you go internet but there was no internet in 1997 19 it wasn't so thank God because they didn't even saw that otherwi they would have been like what what are you doing I be like I don't know and you have five siblings right I have five sisters I'm a middle child I have two older sisters and two younger sisters and I'm a twin MH in the middle so we like the the sandwich like the cheese in the sandwich being Brazilian uh you're connected to the Amazon and to climate change issues and you've done a lot in terms of your environmental advocacy and clean water initiatives talk a little bit about how that began and and what that looked like now you know I um I've always been a big um basically like a child of nature I always tell my children when they ask you know what's your religion they say Mom we don't go to church I say you know what you're in church every day I say I say what do I say when people ask what my what my religion is I say love is your religion and nature is your church that's your Cathedral that's the big church that's our Temple you know so you honor your temple you love your temple you CU that's the only reason why we are all alive because this whole ecosystem is making it possible you know to grow our food to give us to provide us with all the things we need to survive so U and that's how I grew up I felt that way and especially having a grandmother that everything was from the earth you know she grew everything she ate and and uh you know the Earth was giving us the herbs that we needed to like when we fell ill and and I grew up in that way so when you grew up in that way and you grew up running around bare feet you know I come from a small village and anytime you want to eat something you grab there was like a tangerine tree or like a orange tree or is a plum tree and you just go and pick up the fruit from the tree we never bought fruits from the supermarket you know you go either you had it in your backyard or your neighbor had it or the other neighbor you know somebody had the fruit he wanted to eat you just go grab it so I think when you leave with that connection to Nature you have a different appreciation it's like so I feel like nature is just like it's it's it's me like I think we are n you know we are that and I think this connection from nature for me is not something it's just something I've always known you know is how I grew up and so for me um taking care of which I love which is nature is natural um so the but the first time I realized there was really problems happening is when I went to actually spend some time uh with the indigenous people in shingu area of the Amazon in the 2004 and that's when the first time I realized you know pesticide what's what pesticides were doing where mining was doing how they were contaminating the rivers and basically all the indigenous tribes they were living and depending on the that water they were getting sick and even though they were living very wholesomely you know with nature and you know by the impact that the big farms and different Mining and all that stuff was having um was really um having a really terrible impact in their in their their livelihoods and and that's when the first time I was like I need to do something about it and that's when I started like I had a flipflop line at the time in Brazil and we gave a percentage you know to that's actually a funny story the the the indigenous people and I was like I wonder what they would do with this with this funds but it was like a group that helped indigenous in Brazil and the funny enough when I did when I turned 40 this was in 2004 so I was like 24 cut to when I'm 40 2020 I was 40 um I wanted to do something for my 40th birthday and I was like oh I want to plant some trees in the in in the Amazon and how we going to do it so we looked around for who can help us do that and we contacted the the people that are working with the indigenous people that we knew in in Brazil and they're like we have the largest seed bank in the Amazon and we started with the money with the whole program that you gave in 2004 that money that was for the sale of the flipflops now years later they had the largest seed bank of you know the indigenous they they they collected the larger seed bank and this is how with that whole group of people we basically planted over 300,000 trees in that area of the Amazon so that was like years later so that's just how funny how life goes but for me because I was so connected to nature and I always wanted to help and my dad always said you know water is the most important thing and of course I saw that with the indigenous people because that's how they were all getting sick because all the the you know residue of Mining and and and pesticides were going into their water in my little village we were having a lot of problems with agriculture as well where there was a lot of runoffs from Roundup and all the stuff that they use in agriculture all the pesticides and stuff and it was getting a lot of people sick so we actually did the AGA limpa program in 200 I think it was 20 the N or I don't remember when we started but it was like a long time ago and I funded it and my dad who's also a sociologist worked with the university and we and we basically regenerated the whole area of the river that was kind of you know getting the water to the city and we were able to clean it it took us like a few years to do it you know it was pretty simple because all we had to do I mean it was not simple my dad is the one who did the work it was simpler for me I just kind of funded it but he was there every day he had to work with I don't know how many farmers you had to take their pie of land and kind of grow the native species Forest you know the native Forest back so then the there's a buffer there was a buffer and then the root systems could could filtrate it before all that stuff would go into the river and then that was the agal limpa project and that was one of the projects we did to clean the water and anyway so there's lots of different things but in overall thing my my thing is you know we got to take care of Mother Earth she takes care of us you know when people say to me oh we're going to save the planet I say you're that's such an ego thing you know as humans we think we're going to save anything the planets is in her own process of evolution this is a you know it's I mean dinosaurs were here before us and you know lur I mean so many different civilizations the planet will be fine that's what I always say I say please don't fool yourself I think we really saving ourselves we need to yeah I say there's no Sav we need re ourselves back yeah this is really about us protecting the resources and and taking care of what we really need for our survival because once we are gone the planet is going to regenerate I mean I've seen this over and over again the planet regenerates itself so quickly you know because it's it's just a very intelligent we need to learn from nature instead of like trying to control nature we need to just like take a humble pill and and learn from the Big Mama we've moved so far away from that and we do live in this dualistic mindset where we think there's you know our environments and then there's nature or there's us and that's outside um but really understanding that you're never out of nature as you as you said um I think it's the first point of trying to really deepen your relationship with the world in which you live we all live and share and I think when it comes to the Amazon like we all hear about deforestation and all the you know clearing that's going on for cattle grazing and the strip mining and all the stuff that you mentioned but it's an abstraction especially for you know people in North America like we know what's going on we know it's bad but I've never visited there like I've never seen it myself and you being Brazilian gives you kind of a deeper appreciation and understanding of the extent of it you know I think it's how people tell the story because I think it's a lot deeper than you know I think people like depending on the industry that wants to benefit from something that tell the story and they say okay this is what we're going to do is about the cing oh yeah it's so crazy a lot of NOS go in there and they say we're going to have an NGO because we're going to like protect Amazon but they're meantime they're the owners of the bigger paper company that comes from the Amazon they are just not you know what I mean so there it's not not all is as it seems no it's it's a very it's a wild wild west there and one of the biggest you know I've been there a few times and also done a lot of um just kind of like talking to people and understanding what happens there and a lot of the you know there's ancient Woods there and a lot of that goes to Europe so like what a lot of the the cattle for example is what they use to kind of occupy the land but what they're really after which is really valuable there is like gold and Min m you know the the rare medals the rare medals yeah the rare medals and the gold and all that stuff that's in there that's what interest this like you know the different um countries let's say they are not brail when they and because it's so corrupt unfortunately you know Brazil is very corrupt the politicians are very corrupt what happens is they sell those rights to those countries and then we have what we have and then the cattle like in the end they just kind of put them there because they have to occupy the land after they REM because they have to enter if you go there after they removed everything because they have to remove the value the value then they then they put all the cows there that's what they do so they remove the ancient wood they they remove the precious metals and and but they have to get there because if you fly over it it mean you're flying for hours over just a Green carpet so for you to have access to that you have to you can't just like clear cut because it grows so what they do to keep the the the forest from growing they just throw because it's very fertile the soil as soon as you cut because imagine that soil is been there like receiving all those back healthy bacteria from the leaves falling super fertile So within like three days you can Grass Grows Right and then in order for the trees not to keep growing because if you just leave abandon that's what's going to happen the birds are going to carry the seeds they're going to drop the seeds they're going to things are going to start growing again and then they won't have access you know so they kind of it's just like a cycle like but what is really after what they're really after it is the big stuff is the is the and and it's not unfortunately you know it's h it's so sad you know is greed mhm in the end of the day is greed and is greed by people that you know they don't have those natural resources where they are and and they understand the situation in Brazil and how corrupt the this the the 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their best interest from a wellness perspective I think the number one thing I feel is like monkey see monkey does right I think you have to be the example you have to leave it um cuz I think whatever you say is one thing and whatever you do you they need to kind they need to whatever you say whatever you do they have to be the same thing right sympatico yeah they have to be sympatico and um and that's what it is and and I think for the kids for my kids were were a lot easier because I was home a lot with them so I was you know taking them to school every day making their breakfast you know just having my Gardens at home growing the food so when the kids would come for play dates at the house you know my kids were grabbing like everything raw cucumbers carrots like green beans they were just grabbing it from the garden and like collecting things and putting in the basket it was like a game for them and it was like oh friends are coming over why are we going to grab for the for to Door picnic outside and then so they grew up in that way you know they they uh so it was easier for me to feed them healthier food and and and and explain to them you know we always compost it we had bees at our house um so you know they they were learning about you know when The Beekeeper would come and they explain you know how much be how much honey can you take and how much money how much honey do you leave for the bees and how does a the how does a queen bee work and all the so they were they're emotionally connected they were emotionally connected they were part of that like I was as a kid so um so for them is really natural and they were also homeschooled for the last three years um during the you know the whole pandemic thing I and we moved from Boston to Tampa so um it was a whole new world for them so I I homeschooled them and now they just went back to school but I have to tell you I see a huge difference especially because my son is 14 now so he wants to kind of push back this is what I'm getting at oh yeah well how old kid well they range from 28 to 16 and each one of there's four and each of them is different um but it's a delicate dance because you know we raised our kids similarly um but they reach a certain age and part of individuation and maturing is taking ownership for your own choices and understanding what you stand for and what you don't and in order to really Define that and hone that you have to go out and kind of push the envelope and try new things otherwise it's just something you're doing because that's the way you were raised and that's what your parents told you as opposed to really owning it for yourself and so so we have learned that you have to have the brains very loose and and let them go out and do what they want to do and control the environment at home but be you know very kind of nonplused if they go and make a choice that you wouldn't make or whatever and just be curious about it and allow them the space to do that and you know you hope they come back and you know do it the way you taught them to um and sometimes they do and sometimes they don't and again every one of them is different in our case but as they get to a certain point and especially you know when they're with peers and friends and they're in social situations those things they have to learn for themselves and you have to allow them to I think it's so interesting so you have to let go a little bit oh let go and let God yeah I tell myself that is like a mantra you know and and and I I I remind myself of like my mom let me leave home she emancipated me and I was leing in Japan at 14 and there was no cell phones like I call you know can you imagine doing that for one of your children right now no and actually you know what it's so funny because I was having a conversation with my son about that he um he was complaining you know I have chores in my house you know kids have to do their chores so set the table wash the dishes you know now I make a point you know I cook at you know they come from school I'm cooking you know they so one has to set the table whoever sets the table the other has to wash the dishes and there is like you have to clean your room you have to do the basic stuff you know my daughter is doing amazingly she loves it and she's like really good and very proud of herself mom look how good I cleaned the dishes like she's really good and she's washing herself she's not putting it in the machine she wants to learn how to really wash it and and and do it right and she's very focused on it my son is like always like why do I have to do this you know so actually we had like a breakthrough this Christmas this this whole holiday season because I said he says to me I'm going to leave home when I'm 18 mom and I don't know if I'm going to go to college you didn't go to college you didn't go to school I'm going to just leave home when I'm 18 and I'm going to do this and I'm going to do that I'm like okay that's great so you're going to leave in your own apartment and who's going to cook for you and who's going to wash your dishes and who's going to clean your clothes who's going to do that and he's like for a second he's like because you're not going to have a chef and like a you know like and he was thinking for a second and I say well this is why when mommy tells you to do those things at home you know is because I want to give you more tools for your tool boox because when you learn how to do those things and they become second nature to you then you don't even have to think about it you become empowered to do it for yourself you don't depend on anybody and that's nothing it's amazing to be able to do that I said you know what made me feel so like strong and capable when I left my home because my mom taught me how to do those things so when I left home and I was leaving by myself at 14 years old I was first at 13 at 14 I moved to Japan but because I was leaving in the mod's apartment I was the only person there who knew how to clean cook iron do absolutely everything in the house because my mom taught me and it was easy for me I didn't think it was a struggle I was happy to do it and I was happy to to do it for the other girls that didn't know how to do it but if you're going to be planning on leaving on your own at 18 who do you think is going to do all those things for you so all I'm telling you is like take advantage that mommy's here for you right now and I'm able to teach you all those things and you can do it at your time I'm not telling you like at this time you have to wash the dishes so let me just help you I'm going to create a list for you and you just have to do them and you can decide if you want to wash clothes once or twice a week you can decide if you want to wash the dishes right after dinner or before you go to bed whatever you want but if you learn how to do those things you're going to see how empowered you're going to feel and the more tools we can put like the more things like the simple things like that that you can learn and that you can equip your tool box to do you're just going to be just that much like capable and and and there's nothing more fulfilling than feeling like you're able to do stuff that you're capable and then he looked at me and he's like okay mom so when we get back home you give me that list and I'm going to do it I'm like I wow I was going to say like he actually he actually receiv that I I think I have a breakthrough I think I got a breakthrough with the hormones are raging like whatever mom you know storming off like you can get you can get that reaction too that was good good job don't you think that was a good thing but but I used but you see it was a moment that I used what he said because when he thought to himself that's true how am I going to do all that stuff I said you don't want to live in like a you know a messy stinky place that is not clean like you know you want to like have you know so you need to know how to do this stuff and I think all I I see like all the things that happen in life like that like different tools we acquire you know even the job that I you know my job like all the tools that I've acquired in this job all the things that I've learned to do um that I don't know when I'm going to use I use them for my job but maybe I'm going to they going to be useful like in 20 years from my life sure but you came from very different circumstances it's the it's the Peril of success right like you and and the kid's dad like worked very hard to achieve all of these things in life and now they're reared in you know like an insane degree of privilege and it becomes more difficult to instill that kind of work ethic into somebody who you know grows up that way I think you're correct I think it becomes a lot more difficult but I think goes back to the discipline and it goes back to priorities and I think it for me it becomes about what kind of you know I I feel like I'm their Guardian because we don't possess our children right I mean we just come here they come through us but they're as much as our teachers as we are they're teachers and we're constantly learning and teaching you know in every relationship in our life and and I feel that we get this moment in time which is very short in a way that we get to influence our children because then they go I mean look at my parents they had 14 years to influence me then I was out in the world and I never went back and I keep remembering like what are all the things that if they wouldn't have taught me those things where would I be today and I'm so grateful for them for for those lessons and I feel like yes I grew up in very different circumstances than my kids and it is a bit more challenging to have them you know make their bed and wash the dishes and clean their you know when I have a person that can do it too but I make a point of me doing it so then they learn that oh Mommy's doing the dinner Mommy is making the breakfast mommy is so they're like weel you have to model and I feel like it's a different kind of modeling is it is the type of modeling that I prefer it's it's the type of modeling that I find to be the important type of modeling because that's the you know I mean what's Mo the most important thing you're going to do in your life I feel like raising children is is by far the most challenging thing I've ever done and the most uh fulfilling at the same time and you know but I feel that if if I if I don't do that if I don't equip my children to be good capable assets you know for themselves in their lives if they're not going to be then I fail I I feel yeah you haven't done your job then I haven't done my job I mean I feel that's my job I mean that's a job I do to kind of make a living so I can like you know put foot on the table and have but my real job as as I think as a as a mom and I chose to be a mom so I have to show up for my kids and I feel like this things that my you know I think is really what shaped me and what made me who I am today was definitely the upbringing that I had and and what my parents how they guided me and I feel like that's really important so I make that a priority in my life to make sure that my kids are going to have even though they don't have those same needs you know to do those things because my mom didn't have a a person she could pay to come clean the house we had to you clean the bathroom you clean the you know it was like a list all of us have to share between us who's going to do what and we grew up that way and it was kind of fun because you know I was always I always love the cleaning part you know I love organizing and cleaning I feel like a clean house is a clean mind is like a what's out is in you know if like if everything is organized outside I can think um and I tell my kids that and I feel that um if I can really get them to do those simple things in life you know and and learn those things and teach them how to be self-sufficient and capable human beings I feel like I've done my job and then I can rest and then whatever else they do the choices they make if they choose to eat the food that I fed them when they were little if now they want to go eat you know whatever or I mean it's going to be what they're going to do you know they're going to choose their friends hopefully they they choose wisely because in the end of the day they're going to be the one dealing with the consequences of their actions and I always tell them like listen you know you're going to go out there and you're going to make the Cho whatever choice you make there are going to be consequences you're dealing with those consequences me this is your life and sometimes they need to they need to make those mistakes and face those consequences like we had I mean how many mistakes that I mean I have and those those experiences are formative like I'm sure if you look in the rear view mirror and think about the panic attacks that you were having on airplanes and your inability to get into an elevator and you know this desire to jump off your balcony on some level you wouldn't wish that experience on anybody but you probably wouldn't wna change your experience either because it's set in motion this whole sensibility and way of being that you now have and I think with kids they regardless of whether they hear you in the moment or whether they go out into the world and make a bunch of mistakes like they come back yeah and whatever you taught them it's in there and at some point when they're ready or whatever like they return to it and you know and and I think to to trust that it's very important and I also feel like because if you try to overly control it you're going to drive them away absolutely and and you know I think for me I keep going back to me as a kid and the trust my parents had in me to let me go and I wouldn't be who I am today if it wasn't for them trusting in me and for all the mistakes that I've made and then had to come the other side and figure out for myself so I think it's important to give our children the Dignity of Their Own process you know because we had a dignity you know we have to go through our own process to become who we are and I think as long as they know that we are there and what what is our values you know is like those things that are important what is what is that we stand for what's important for us you know as as as as a as a value as a core value as as as a being a good human being and a good person and if you thought that your children and and they and they got it in the end of the day they're going to go out there in the world and they're going to have to make their mistakes and I I think the best thing you can do for them it's is just be there for them whenever they they come back and if they want your help you know and I think it's it's hard because you want to protect them like you can put Bobble wrap on them so like nothing will touch them and they will be safe but in the end of the day that's unrealistic and it's like it doesn't work anyway you know what I like this idea you know there's a metaphor of the butterfly imagine the caterpillar as she's transforming into becoming the butterfly she's you know eating eating all the you know until she finally starts spinning into a cocoon and and then she has to like go through that whole stous process if you ever seen like you know they turn into GP yeah but they're like but it's exactly it's just and it's really kind of like hard to like when they're coming out it's like really awkward and it looks like they're very strenuous and very difficult so if you go in there and you try to help them come out you're going to them you're going to the butterfly and she won't be able to have the strength she needs struggle is the struggle is what crucial to the the growth and you have to give them the Dignity of their own process you have to be and I and I keep reminding myself I cannot take away that opportunity for them because my parents gave me the opportunity for me to go through my own challenges and I grew and and I want my kids to have that same opportunity because whoever they're going to become is going to be based on what their choice is and hopefully I gave them enough good examples and and and good um values where they would make the choices that is right for them you know what is it that you want people to understand or take away from the new book and and how you are modeling this lifestyle um whether it's dietary changes Lifestyle Changes uh movement practices how can somebody who is interested in kind of leveling up across the board begin the process of of making those changes in their life you know it's funny you know because when I decided to do a cookbook I'm the farthest thing there is from a chef let me tell you something I I am not a chef let me just like let's be honest you've got a private Chef in home that person is taking care of everything not anymore I used to you don't anymore no I don't I don't it's no the last two years I don't you're cooking your own meals yes I'm cooking my own meals yeah I I grew up there way and I want like I told you like my priority is showing my kids what I believe it's important for them and and and I can't I can't say oh this is important and then I have and I'm not doing it you know what I mean so it has to be cohesive right and and I think that for me um really being like living what I believe is very important and I was showing my kids that this is important to me like the only way I'm going to show them that is by doing that so yes I had chefs and this is how I learn how to cook a lot of the things a lot of the recipes in the book are like inspired by the things that I created with the chefs that I throughout the years I had the opportunity to you know to really work with Incredible people incredible Chef people that love food as much as I do because I love food um but was really an idea for me to look I can say go and meditate go and exercise you know I believe meditation I believe rest I believe um exercise I believe nutrition all of those things are extremely important for you to be able to take kind of ownership of your health and really take care of yourself and have and work on just having a more clear mind and just feeling more connected to yourself I think all of those things are different aspects of it but the reason about the cookbook is quite frankly I was seeing kids were coming to our house and in play dates and and moms will come and be like how did you get my kid to eat broccoli or roasted vegetables or and it was like so simple and I was like oh maybe we can share how to make some simple recipes that are super easy you can make it like in 10 minutes and you know moms some you know you just sometimes feel overwhelmed and I know because life is busy there's so so much going on so I was like how can I help in this way and also I feel like food is a perfect time for you to practice being present and mindful because you can eat like on a rush and not being present and the food have a one effect in your body or you can do something which is what I talk about in the book is like every time I look at my food not only the act of preparing your food there so much loves and you're touching the food and you're connecting with your food that's one thing but even if you're not the one cooking your food just to take a moment to bless your food to acknowledge that that is something that is alive that you're taking it and you're that's also your source of life you know so it's kind of like connecting to the food in that way I think it it does something because everything is energy so you're having a transfer of energy with something and with the intention that you're eating it has a different I I feel huge you know when I start doing that does make a difference how he has a different just being present and being connected to what you're doing having gratitude for that moment and you get to do that three times a day you know I mean now I have a juice once a day but I still blast my juice but it's just kind of like it's just this book what I would like to to to for people to take is like it can be really simple it doesn't have to be complicated to to eat healthy and really like if you have plans you know my mom taught me you know since I was a kid like no food waste so how can we organize our meals so can there's a big thing about like reducing waste yeah there for me that's huge and also like me planning like if you're going to buy because or you know food sourcing that's huge it's not about having something with a lot of condiments and a lot of stuff it's just like keep it simple but buying really great quality products like if you can do that and then instead of like because a lot of people are like oh and then you buy organic and then you throw it out because it's like you know it spoils much faster and I'm like yeah but if you have a meal planning and I and I teach that I kind of give some suggestions in the book like my mom did that I grew up like that because she didn't have time you know she was working all the time so she had like in the fridge like what we going to have for the whole week so she would go to the groceries and she would buy and then the things were allowed to the next day so you would always know what we were eating and things that wouldn't be eaten could be easily transferred for the next day and be made into the next organiz so that nothing spoils and you're so nothing spoils and you never had food waste because you're always taking it from one day to the next so is never wasting you always	I'm choosing to not the people I'm choosing to have around in my life but what type of energy what kind of thoughts I allow to what am I feeding you know what kind of thoughts am I so all of that so that became like a big um changing of seasons for me in my early 20s what were those first couple weeks like if you went completely cold turkey on all of these bad habits I think it was like a drug addict I never was a I guess I was a drug etic only legal drugs because I guess alcohol is a drug and so is cigarettes nicotine and all that and caffeine and all that but they're like socially accepted but I tell you that I had the worst migraine I mean I felt like the I mean maybe that's what a person who's going like you have gone to to rehab right so I'm I don't know what you felt I would love to hear but I for me it was like right I mean I don't know about that sub it's the only way I know how to do it though I don't understand how people kind of phase out of stuff like you have to for me you have to draw the line and step over it and it's going to suck and you're going to be uncomfortable for a while while um but you know that on the other side of that	8	6	7	I'm choosing to not the people I'm choosing to have around in my life but what type of energy what kind of thoughts I allow to what am I feeding you know what kind of thoughts am I so all of that so that became like a big um changing of seasons for me in my early 20s	what were those first couple weeks like if you went completely cold turkey on all of these bad habits	8,6,5	2,4,3	8	6	5	2	4	3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjK5ahIgsHA	4,193	rjK5ahIgsHA	2024-03-25 00:00:00	the choices that you're making are really either supporting you or not straight from the pages of Victoria Secret please welcome jaelle bunin gazelle bunin gazelle has walked in nearly 500 fashion shows and great the covers of more than 1,200 different magazines on paper like you're perhaps highly unrelatable you know what it is it's a character that's the job I do to kind of make a living so I can like you know put foot on the table raising children is is by far the most challenging thing I've ever done it's a different kind of modeling is the type of modeling that I prefer food is a perfect time for you to practice being present and mindful because it can be really simple it doesn't have to be complicated to eat healthy nature is just like it's me instead of like trying to control nature we need to just like take a humble pill and and learn from the Big Mama [Music] today's episode is brought to you by the awesome organizations that make this show [Music] possible so nice to meet you nice to meet you too so excited to have you here today yes when this opportunity presented itself I was like of course I want to talk to Jazelle and then I had my own like sort of mini panic attack we're going to get into panic attacks I'm like what could I possibly talk to this person about the alltime great super model of all time everybody knows this on paper like you're perhaps highly unrelatable but then the more you dig into your story and the more I kind of learned about your Arc and your past and what brought you to this place there's so much that's deeply relatable and your kind of transformation story is remarkably similar to mine although you did yours at like 23 I was 40 um but there's so much in there so I thought it would be cool to kind of um talk a little bit about what it was like what happened and how you made these changes in your life because I think you're in this interesting new season right now where despite the fact that you've been this Wellness Advocate and wellness Warrior for a long time my sense is that there's a there's a more full Embrace of of that now with kind of how you see yourself and what's important to you a well thank you for the introduction you know the funny thing is I you know people's you know what I did for a living is something that kind of just happened to me at 14 years old you know it was it was like hey do you want to be a model and I thought oh I can help my family you know I can do make a living and and help you know I have five sisters and and all that so modeling to me is something that is um an opportunity that came along like I think in life you have these opportunities that either you take that train and then see where it goes you know and I never even believed that this was going to take me and I was going to be doing this for almost 30 years you know it's it's one of those things that I was like oh I'll start doing this job and you know send money home and help my sisters go through school and do all that and um and maybe in five years you know I'll get a house because I didn't even go to school you know I I I was emancipated at 14 yeah you were in Tokyo at 14 I was living in Japan without speaking English and J or Japanese and that's when I when I start learning the language of of of energy you know what I mean because you don't have to understand the language you just have to feel you know something there's a lot more that has been said without words you know sure so I start learning about that um but I think that I went through this journey of modeling which was something I thought was going to last five years and I was just going to help my family out for a little bit and it just kept going you know it just kept happening you know I I didn't even think you can have longevity in this career because it's not what I what I saw really around me happening um but you know I kept it kept working out so I kept doing it and it was kind of a Mindless thing you know when you got in the hamster wheel and I think we do that sometimes in life and you're so young you don't know and you Liv the fast life and all of that so in my early 20s I um developed you know anxiety and panic attacks and all that because you know when you drink a bottle of wine and that because you like I used to be a smoker so I smoke I can't even imagine I used to smoke it feels like a whole different life you know but um it was the late 90s and there was a lot of um drugs and fashion and all that so I thought I was saying just because I was like having some wine and smoking cigarettes everybody was doing way worse things than yeah I'm sure you've seen a lot I've seen a lot yeah that's a whole other show about that that's a whole other story but yeah so um you know so that was the beginning for me to start reconnecting with myself because I think when I was 14 and I got that train my only focus was like how can I be the best that I can do on this and and and that was my focus and and I didn't meure any sacrifice he was like if I had to work 360 days a year and I felt like I couldn't say no because people were giving me a chance and then I was like in this really overdrive uh and burn down my adrenals I found out later when I found this amazing natural Doctor Who told me like listen you don't have any more adrenal they're shut down because you burn them basically I'm like but I'm only 22 you know so um basically I had to change the habits that I you know smoking a pack of cigarettes drinking alcohol every day to myself down coffee all day to keep myself up and also going from you know one time zone to the next I was three days in Paris two days in London one day in New York going back to you know my life was in a living in a suitcase and of course your nervous system is going to freak out you know and the way I was eating it was very you know anything that was in front of me I was just like not mindful about anything you know I was just kind of um like a Workhorse and when that happen to me is when I you know I come from a family that is very my my grandmother had a tea for everything so we never had we were not the kind of you know you get sick let me see this herbal remedy that we you know so yeah you grew up in kind of a small village right in Brazil your grandmother was cultivating herbs and she was the person that everyone would go to for their remedy so you have this sort of background and connection you know with the Earth exactly that you know is kind of lingering in the back of your mind when you're just you know hammering nails and and you know drinking wine and living that life but you're young it's like that's kind of what your 20s are for kind of and you're you're on this like Jet Plane I mean figuratively and literally like your career's taking off on top of that a people pleasing tendency where you feel like you have to say yes to everything and you're just go go go go go yeah and and I think but that was a big wakeup call for me because I think sometimes you know you have to reach rock bottom and when I had that those anxiety and they start becoming like almost CRI because I couldn't get on planes he was just you know I was going to all these doctors and they were like you have to take this stuff and I was just afraid of taking anything because I've never taken anything you know I was a there was a t for for this there you know my grandmother wasn't there so finally you know I wasn't going to take any medication because just the idea of taking something I was like I was normal before how can I go back being what I was you know like I I I didn't have these issues so what's happening long story short I found this doctor I had to replace my habits it was that simple I had to replace these habits that had created the reality I was living at that moment which was you know um really killing me in in so many ways you know killing my spirit killing my and and I replace it with good habits so now instead of smoking cigarettes and having a mocha frappuccino in the morning I'll would go out and do breath work and go out for a run and you know I replace in one day I gave up everything because he he looked at me he said jelle he called me Adrenalina he says do you want to live and I said I do he's like so we going to CH change my diet and that's for the first time in my life that I realized that I I was really like the one who got myself there and I was the only person who could get myself out by the choices that I was making so I had to take full responsibility for what I had created but it was in my power only in my power to change that there were no doctors nobody who was going to save me I had to change um you know the choices I was making and I and I did that and it was incredible because after over a year and a half like really struggling with anxiety and panic attacks and all that within 3 months I was like I never had another incident and it was you know and and once you start meditating I mean at that point this was 20 years ago right it wasn't like people were talking about meditation and yoga any other that um it was just um you know when you sit in silence and you and you reflect which is what we don't really give ourselves time to do because the world is so fastpaced and everything is catching your attention is trying to throw you off your Center you know everything is so busy it's like an overload of information to have that space to go inside and reflect and look and really take a step back I think that was the biggest blessing of my life so really I think what could have killed me is what gave me a whole new life and it was amazing because since then like everything changed like I realized that food is my medicine I realized that I am the director of my own movie that I'm creating my reality based on the choices that I'm making but what I'm choosing to not the people I'm choosing to have around in my life but what type of energy what kind of thoughts I allow to what am I feeding you know what kind of thoughts am I so all of that so that became like a big um changing of seasons for me in my early 20s what were those first couple weeks like if you went completely cold turkey on all of these bad habits I think it was like a drug addict I never was a I guess I was a drug etic only legal drugs because I guess alcohol is a drug and so is cigarettes nicotine and all that and caffeine and all that but they're like socially accepted but I tell you that I had the worst migraine I mean I felt like the I mean maybe that's what a person who's going like you have gone to to rehab right so I'm I don't know what you felt I would love to hear but I for me it was like right I mean I don't know about that sub it's the only way I know how to do it though I don't understand how people kind of phase out of stuff like you have to for me you have to draw the line and step over it and it's going to suck and you're going to be uncomfortable for a while while um but you know that on the other side of that lies all of this opportunity and possibility um but uh and that's what happened to me I think there was that because what I knew I knew that what I was and what if you do what you've always done you're going to get what you've always gotten is that simple and what I realized at that moment that what I what I created for myself was not what I wanted I needed to a drastic change and then he was like draw the line stopped everything in one day and the migraines and all of that like the consequences of what I had done I had to deal with them you know it took me like two weeks I think I was like having the worst migraines just because I didn't know if it was the nicotine the caffeine the alcohol I don't know what it was but it was all of it together and um but then it was amazing because from that experience I I became so much stronger and I and there are lots of different things that happen in my life after that I feel like every time we get tested it's like the Super Mario you know like the little video game when you go to do the big boss like you go through all the phases and you go to level one the big boss is like one it's okay to defeat that one but then the second one is like a tough for big boss and then the third one is you know it's like it's life I feel like that's what life is you get like the new tools so you get equipped and then you go to the next challenge that is a bigger one and then is a bigger one I feel like that's why we're here you know to keep seeing how we can expand how much more we can to grow to evolve to expand to see how strong and how creative and how you know how can how much we can experience of all this wonder how did you how did you plug that into the fast-paced life of of your modeling career because it's one thing if you're living a more kind of grounded atome lifestyle where you can control your food and your environment a little bit better but when you're flying all over the world and you're on these sets and there's craft service and it's junk food like you have to be way ahead of the curve to prepare everything to have everything kind of organized for yourself because how do you you if you're in just hotels all over the place and you arrive at midnight like how are you getting your you know like how did so how did you manage all of that you have to be very discipline I think you know when I I did this book called lessons and um and it was like everything starts to discipline that was like my first chapter and that's what I believe you have to decide you have and then you have to have the discipline to follow through so once you realize that these choices that you are making are having a positive impact in your life you want to continue doing them you know what I mean you don't want to fall back and just something that it didn't feel good that's your past like you don't want to go back there again so you're going to stick to the plan like this is what's working and this is what made me feel good again so I'm going to stick to this and of course it's not 100% you have to be compassionate with yourself too and say you I'll be like you know life is hard as it is you need to bit yourself in the head sometimes if you go and you oh you know I had like um I was exhausted I had like a banana bread or something or I had you know but I think you realize that the choices that you're making are are really either supporting you or not you know supporting you living the life that making you feel good and living the life that you want and is taking to the direction where you want to go or not and then it's just kind of an easier choice to make right and then I feel like when I go to the jobs you know I got to the point in my life where people know how I eat and you know I can tell people like listen this is what I want I want you got extensive riter yeah I kind of you know because I was already working for so long so I I have you know I got to the I guess really the privilege to be able to to kind of say like this is the kind of things that I would like to eat so please at the job you know if you're working 10 12 hours in a studio can we have these things available you know what I mean so then it was easier to keep the food healthy you know um because I think that's so important and then just to say I feel like and then saying no to those things you know like coffee or alcohol or things that I was just so used to because I was still in that same environment the environment hadn't changed I had changed but all of that was around me still but then it was just a choice of saying you know I feel great and I haven't drank alcohol in over two years now too this is something you know I even when I went back drinking after it was very moderate you know I was still like like I would drink socially sometimes you know peer pressure sometimes like oh come on have a drink you know and then you like feel like especially in my world I mean everyone pretty much is like socially having a drink so I would be like okay I'll have a drink but then he got to a point that I was like and that was like 20 years later because it just happened over two years ago I was like I don't want to drink like I don't care what anyone thinks and I don't care if they have Fe peer pressure I'm going to have my Min tea my cam tea and if they want to drink I'm not making anyone feel bad about drinking they can do whatever they want this is their Temple you know this is my temple I get to choose and they shouldn't make me feel bad that I don't want to you know so um then I kind of stood up for myself I think that happens after your 40s like you care less about what other people think and um wait till you're 50 oh my God I can't wait for that I'm gonna like he's he's gonna be amazing but I think the thing you mentioned you mentioned like being directed and and and being kind of dedicated to your path and and and I feel like that's the underappreciated aspect of of understanding you and your career a lot of people arrive in New York City every single day with a similar dream or ambition that you had when you were a young person and you arrived there and a lot of those people are very beautiful you're beautiful but that doesn't tell the story of how you translated like an opportunity into the career that you had and I think between the lines there is an intense work ethic and a very intentional approach to what you were doing like how did you apply those skills like what is the differentiator between you and the career that you've enjoyed versus you know the other beautiful people who aren't enjoying the same kind of career you can't and you're not allowed to say luck or you're you know no I don't believe I don't believe in luck I don't believe in luck I believe in hard work and but I believe in um I mean I think discipline but I also believe that I always treated everyone the way I like to be treated and I've always was appreciative I have this immense sense of gratitude for just being there so even though you know people were like oh you know you you know when I was 19 I was like I want the model of you know the model of the year and everybody's like how does it feel to be it didn't really it doesn't matter to me because quite frankly I never saw myself as a motel it's just not something I didn't drink the Kool-Aid I didn't believe because I was a model or because I I became successful in this job like I was better than anybody I just and I didn't believe that I believe that I just got to learn that craft really well and I understood what the job entail and like I learned how to do the job really well but by no means is what defined me it's just something I did it's not it's not who I am I don't know if you know it's like I go there I had this opportunity at you know 13 14 years old when I finally left home and and and and St pursued this career that really I thought it was just really I did it for the money I did it because I was like what else am I going to do at 14 years old that I can help my family you know I don't have any other jobs that are offering me an opportunity so I'll take this one so for me it was really like a job so I never like it didn't kind of Define me I kind of did it my way like I never became like you know it was like oh it needs to be glamorous I was never glamorous I'm a jeans and t-shirt type of girl like I if I needed to go to parties or hang out with this type of people I never did any of that like I went there I did my job I did the best that I could I never was late in my life for my jobs like never showed up like late I was there before everyone I was there 100% you know I I I just wanted to make sure that if people were booking me and they they were trusting in me that I was going to show up and deliver you know and I think that's kind of what it was I did it my way you know and it didn't broke me kind of Cu I saw you know people in this business you know you can lose yourself because if you drink the Kool-Aid if you start thinking you know like you lose yourself in it I never lost myself it was just a job and it's still just a job I can't even believe I'm still doing it sometimes I go in and I do it you it's not it's not what I do full- time anymore but it's just one of those things that you know I got to do this I got to make a career out of it and got to make a great living and help my family and I I have wonderful you know I got to travel the world and learn different languages and and and all of that and that's how I see it I don't see it as a you know I don't see myself you're not defined by it you're not you're not caught up in in the kind of dark underbelly of that very strange world this whole world is like almost like a parallel reality for me you know what I mean if something is like a switch on button I go there I do my job I take my picture I turn it off I go home and I have the same friends I have my my family I'm very close with my family but I think you're very good at seeing opportunities when they arise and you tell a little story in in in the new book about being 14 and on route to Tokyo and your parents gave you your dad gave you a little bit of money that was intended for getting a cab from that's the first day arve in s Paulo and instead of using that money oh it was you were super young right so you had a little bit of money to take a tab and you had the presence of mind to say this money would be better spent buying some clothes so I can do better in my auditions or whatnot um which isn't like that's not normal like that's somebody who's thinking ahead who's planning long term who's understanding that they have an opportunity in front of them and trying to figure out how to make the most out of it with limited resources and I think that speaks to or says a lot about your sensibility or your perspective as a business person yeah I mean it's so interesting to see it that way I mean I for me at that moment in time you know I I I just felt like I did something else than that you know that was one of the things and now that you're saying that I actually did that throughout because I bought my first apartment when I was 19 years old and when everybody was buying you know designer bags all the models and you know like remember I didn't know I was going to last in this business I thought like I didn't go to school I didn't go to high school I didn't you know I I left I I went to work and whenever I go I go back I thought I was going to be a farmer or something because I just always love the land and but I I didn't think like you know like where am I going to go from here so I have to make sure that I have at least a place to live I'm a cancer so I want to have like a stable home and when I was 19 you know people start flying me first class because I was like the model of the year right saw all the clients now are paying me first class I was exchanging those tickets for Coach classes because I was every two three days in a different country and instead of paying um my you know a rent in an apartment I pay I put down a down payment for an apartment and then I was paying my mortgage instead of paying rent and you're 19 and I was 19 so I I own my first apartment as 19 years old it was like a in in New York City it was like facing a wall of another building mind you he was like a very apartment you know that does require some maturity and some long-term thinking well well because I just thought to myself like you know I don't know how long I'm going to stay here you know I i' I at least I have to have a place to live if I like I'm not going to live empty-handed you know what I mean like what do I care about a bag or like what is that going to give me it's not going to be a roof over my head I need to make sure that I have that I can spend in the right places but I think that sense came from my mother because we grew up you know my mother was a cashier in the bank my father had like lots of different jobs like he had a real estate job but he was you know my mom they literally we we were like really simple people and grew up in two bedrooms with six girls and and and money was all always tight so I learned how to is the same thing in the book is like how do you prepare how do you not waste food I mean everything is like I think in my life I was kind of like raised that way you know what I mean kind of plan ahead like for tomorrow so you make sure that you have like food for everyone like like we're going to reuse the meat we cook on the barbecue and we're going to put it in the rice we're going to have carera so we're going to have an abundant meal because we have the rest of the you know what I mean it's kind of like that it's like you put money in the bank so when you retire you have something to to live off when you can no longer work the same thing I feel about food like you eat the right food so when you're older you you're able to have the energy and your body is functioning because you made the right choices so for me it's the same thing you know it's kind of making like just being kind of what is necessary here like do I really need this what do I need more do I need a roof over my head or do I need this this bags and this stuff do I need to take a taxi when I arrive to the model apartment when I'm 14 even though I never been to the city or can I take the subway and save the money so I can get the clothes for the casting and maybe I can get a job it's like it's kind of thinking like with the resources that I have right now what is the smartest how is the smartest way to use them I guess if you're like me never without a water bottle let's get it right people allow me to rock your world with my new favorite toy that's actually not a toy at all it's a non-negotiable essential camel backs Podium steel 100% % leak proof water bottle emphasis on leak proof for all 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it's you know what it is it's a character I always call call it her because I think being a MTO what I understood as being a motto is to play a character in a silent movie you know you get to experience all these different charact all these different aspects of of of being a woman let's say because one designer wants you to be more androgynous you know one designer was you know I remember diding a Balin Saga campaign I was like they made me a boy I was like literally like a week I was like a man a boy and in one I was like the sexy Versace campaign like you know like with big hair and like you know pushup bra you know so it was kind of like I got to play from the the androgynous girl to the very sexy to the tomb boy like I got to you know I mean you should see I don't know if you ever saw my book the other one that was like the 20 years I did a 20 well I watched the video that you did where you kind of went through it and you were talking about what was going on with you with each of those photographs yeah so it's it's it's it's really about kind of playing these different roles but it's just instead of you talking like you would be in a movie you're just you got to make the image that picture that one capture image to to it's a performance art it's a performance art but it's such a weird world I know that like Alexander McQueen he was like he was really the Catalyst right he was the guy who gave me the chance you know he gave me the the chance but when you watch his shows or some of these other shows like the designs are are stunning and gorgeous but they're also totally inaccessible it's like who wears this does anybody is there anybody in the world that even wear I mean if you're Lady Gaga I guess or somebody like that but like yeah it's a fantasy and so it's curious like how does that translate into I guess it's just how you feel and how you think about a particular designer or a brand and not so much about directly selling those designs to the person who's going to the department store or the boutique right yeah they're not thinking I don't even understand the business model of the whole thing yeah I me neither to be honest with you but I think it's a really I mean I think it has changed a lot uh since I started like I see a big shift because I think before there was a lot more creativity there was allowed a lot more creativity I think you know McQueen or JN galano you know the shows and stuff like you were like in a world like sure and the photographers being rock stars themselves oh yeah and and it was a I think it was a moment in time where there was so much less about selling but it was much more about the the inspiration and the aspir aspiring you know the aspiration of creating like a fantasy and like a and it was a lot of fun then I have to say at that time because I would have been dead I wouldn't have survived it I would have gone all in I would have been at every after hours party it would have been a disaster you see I was in bed like studying my astrology books like by 10 you know that was me I was like by 10 I was like oh no I have to go I was like I have to start early so I can go to bed early so for me it was a a different thing but um you know but I guess for me I also fell very responsible because I didn't want to one of the The Guiding lights for me I really believe was my parents because I saw how hard they work and I didn't want to disappoint them so I think part of like me being so stay on the line was like I'm not disappointing my parents I don't care if they're not here they are going to know what I'm doing like I remember part of the reason why I got so freaked out about the McQueen show and they sent me out like without a top because I couldn't speak English and they didn't even do a feeding anyway so then I was I was like oh my God if my parents see this they're GNA make me go back home and then I you know what is it like when you go internet but there was no internet in 1997 19 it wasn't so thank God because they didn't even saw that otherwi they would have been like what what are you doing I be like I don't know and you have five siblings right I have five sisters I'm a middle child I have two older sisters and two younger sisters and I'm a twin MH in the middle so we like the the sandwich like the cheese in the sandwich being Brazilian uh you're connected to the Amazon and to climate change issues and you've done a lot in terms of your environmental advocacy and clean water initiatives talk a little bit about how that began and and what that looked like now you know I um I've always been a big um basically like a child of nature I always tell my children when they ask you know what's your religion they say Mom we don't go to church I say you know what you're in church every day I say I say what do I say when people ask what my what my religion is I say love is your religion and nature is your church that's your Cathedral that's the big church that's our Temple you know so you honor your temple you love your temple you CU that's the only reason why we are all alive because this whole ecosystem is making it possible you know to grow our food to give us to provide us with all the things we need to survive so U and that's how I grew up I felt that way and especially having a grandmother that everything was from the earth you know she grew everything she ate and and uh you know the Earth was giving us the herbs that we needed to like when we fell ill and and I grew up in that way so when you grew up in that way and you grew up running around bare feet you know I come from a small village and anytime you want to eat something you grab there was like a tangerine tree or like a orange tree or is a plum tree and you just go and pick up the fruit from the tree we never bought fruits from the supermarket you know you go either you had it in your backyard or your neighbor had it or the other neighbor you know somebody had the fruit he wanted to eat you just go grab it so I think when you leave with that connection to Nature you have a different appreciation it's like so I feel like nature is just like it's it's it's me like I think we are n you know we are that and I think this connection from nature for me is not something it's just something I've always known you know is how I grew up and so for me um taking care of which I love which is nature is natural um so the but the first time I realized there was really problems happening is when I went to actually spend some time uh with the indigenous people in shingu area of the Amazon in the 2004 and that's when the first time I realized you know pesticide what's what pesticides were doing where mining was doing how they were contaminating the rivers and basically all the indigenous tribes they were living and depending on the that water they were getting sick and even though they were living very wholesomely you know with nature and you know by the impact that the big farms and different Mining and all that stuff was having um was really um having a really terrible impact in their in their their livelihoods and and that's when the first time I was like I need to do something about it and that's when I started like I had a flipflop line at the time in Brazil and we gave a percentage you know to that's actually a funny story the the the indigenous people and I was like I wonder what they would do with this with this funds but it was like a group that helped indigenous in Brazil and the funny enough when I did when I turned 40 this was in 2004 so I was like 24 cut to when I'm 40 2020 I was 40 um I wanted to do something for my 40th birthday and I was like oh I want to plant some trees in the in in the Amazon and how we going to do it so we looked around for who can help us do that and we contacted the the people that are working with the indigenous people that we knew in in Brazil and they're like we have the largest seed bank in the Amazon and we started with the money with the whole program that you gave in 2004 that money that was for the sale of the flipflops now years later they had the largest seed bank of you know the indigenous they they they collected the larger seed bank and this is how with that whole group of people we basically planted over 300,000 trees in that area of the Amazon so that was like years later so that's just how funny how life goes but for me because I was so connected to nature and I always wanted to help and my dad always said you know water is the most important thing and of course I saw that with the indigenous people because that's how they were all getting sick because all the the you know residue of Mining and and and pesticides were going into their water in my little village we were having a lot of problems with agriculture as well where there was a lot of runoffs from Roundup and all the stuff that they use in agriculture all the pesticides and stuff and it was getting a lot of people sick so we actually did the AGA limpa program in 200 I think it was 20 the N or I don't remember when we started but it was like a long time ago and I funded it and my dad who's also a sociologist worked with the university and we and we basically regenerated the whole area of the river that was kind of you know getting the water to the city and we were able to clean it it took us like a few years to do it you know it was pretty simple because all we had to do I mean it was not simple my dad is the one who did the work it was simpler for me I just kind of funded it but he was there every day he had to work with I don't know how many farmers you had to take their pie of land and kind of grow the native species Forest you know the native Forest back so then the there's a buffer there was a buffer and then the root systems could could filtrate it before all that stuff would go into the river and then that was the agal limpa project and that was one of the projects we did to clean the water and anyway so there's lots of different things but in overall thing my my thing is you know we got to take care of Mother Earth she takes care of us you know when people say to me oh we're going to save the planet I say you're that's such an ego thing you know as humans we think we're going to save anything the planets is in her own process of evolution this is a you know it's I mean dinosaurs were here before us and you know lur I mean so many different civilizations the planet will be fine that's what I always say I say please don't fool yourself I think we really saving ourselves we need to yeah I say there's no Sav we need re ourselves back yeah this is really about us protecting the resources and and taking care of what we really need for our survival because once we are gone the planet is going to regenerate I mean I've seen this over and over again the planet regenerates itself so quickly you know because it's it's just a very intelligent we need to learn from nature instead of like trying to control nature we need to just like take a humble pill and and learn from the Big Mama we've moved so far away from that and we do live in this dualistic mindset where we think there's you know our environments and then there's nature or there's us and that's outside um but really understanding that you're never out of nature as you as you said um I think it's the first point of trying to really deepen your relationship with the world in which you live we all live and share and I think when it comes to the Amazon like we all hear about deforestation and all the you know clearing that's going on for cattle grazing and the strip mining and all the stuff that you mentioned but it's an abstraction especially for you know people in North America like we know what's going on we know it's bad but I've never visited there like I've never seen it myself and you being Brazilian gives you kind of a deeper appreciation and understanding of the extent of it you know I think it's how people tell the story because I think it's a lot deeper than you know I think people like depending on the industry that wants to benefit from something that tell the story and they say okay this is what we're going to do is about the cing oh yeah it's so crazy a lot of NOS go in there and they say we're going to have an NGO because we're going to like protect Amazon but they're meantime they're the owners of the bigger paper company that comes from the Amazon they are just not you know what I mean so there it's not not all is as it seems no it's it's a very it's a wild wild west there and one of the biggest you know I've been there a few times and also done a lot of um just kind of like talking to people and understanding what happens there and a lot of the you know there's ancient Woods there and a lot of that goes to Europe so like what a lot of the the cattle for example is what they use to kind of occupy the land but what they're really after which is really valuable there is like gold and Min m you know the the rare medals the rare medals yeah the rare medals and the gold and all that stuff that's in there that's what interest this like you know the different um countries let's say they are not brail when they and because it's so corrupt unfortunately you know Brazil is very corrupt the politicians are very corrupt what happens is they sell those rights to those countries and then we have what we have and then the cattle like in the end they just kind of put them there because they have to occupy the land after they REM because they have to enter if you go there after they removed everything because they have to remove the value the value then they then they put all the cows there that's what they do so they remove the ancient wood they they remove the precious metals and and but they have to get there because if you fly over it it mean you're flying for hours over just a Green carpet so for you to have access to that you have to you can't just like clear cut because it grows so what they do to keep the the the forest from growing they just throw because it's very fertile the soil as soon as you cut because imagine that soil is been there like receiving all those back healthy bacteria from the leaves falling super fertile So within like three days you can Grass Grows Right and then in order for the trees not to keep growing because if you just leave abandon that's what's going to happen the birds are going to carry the seeds they're going to drop the seeds they're going to things are going to start growing again and then they won't have access you know so they kind of it's just like a cycle like but what is really after what they're really after it is the big stuff is the is the and and it's not unfortunately you know it's h it's so sad you know is greed mhm in the end of the day is greed and is greed by people that you know they don't have those natural resources where they are and and they understand the situation in Brazil and how corrupt the this the the 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their best interest from a wellness perspective I think the number one thing I feel is like monkey see monkey does right I think you have to be the example you have to leave it um cuz I think whatever you say is one thing and whatever you do you they need to kind they need to whatever you say whatever you do they have to be the same thing right sympatico yeah they have to be sympatico and um and that's what it is and and I think for the kids for my kids were were a lot easier because I was home a lot with them so I was you know taking them to school every day making their breakfast you know just having my Gardens at home growing the food so when the kids would come for play dates at the house you know my kids were grabbing like everything raw cucumbers carrots like green beans they were just grabbing it from the garden and like collecting things and putting in the basket it was like a game for them and it was like oh friends are coming over why are we going to grab for the for to Door picnic outside and then so they grew up in that way you know they they uh so it was easier for me to feed them healthier food and and and and explain to them you know we always compost it we had bees at our house um so you know they they were learning about you know when The Beekeeper would come and they explain you know how much be how much honey can you take and how much money how much honey do you leave for the bees and how does a the how does a queen bee work and all the so they were they're emotionally connected they were emotionally connected they were part of that like I was as a kid so um so for them is really natural and they were also homeschooled for the last three years um during the you know the whole pandemic thing I and we moved from Boston to Tampa so um it was a whole new world for them so I I homeschooled them and now they just went back to school but I have to tell you I see a huge difference especially because my son is 14 now so he wants to kind of push back this is what I'm getting at oh yeah well how old kid well they range from 28 to 16 and each one of there's four and each of them is different um but it's a delicate dance because you know we raised our kids similarly um but they reach a certain age and part of individuation and maturing is taking ownership for your own choices and understanding what you stand for and what you don't and in order to really Define that and hone that you have to go out and kind of push the envelope and try new things otherwise it's just something you're doing because that's the way you were raised and that's what your parents told you as opposed to really owning it for yourself and so so we have learned that you have to have the brains very loose and and let them go out and do what they want to do and control the environment at home but be you know very kind of nonplused if they go and make a choice that you wouldn't make or whatever and just be curious about it and allow them the space to do that and you know you hope they come back and you know do it the way you taught them to um and sometimes they do and sometimes they don't and again every one of them is different in our case but as they get to a certain point and especially you know when they're with peers and friends and they're in social situations those things they have to learn for themselves and you have to allow them to I think it's so interesting so you have to let go a little bit oh let go and let God yeah I tell myself that is like a mantra you know and and and I I I remind myself of like my mom let me leave home she emancipated me and I was leing in Japan at 14 and there was no cell phones like I call you know can you imagine doing that for one of your children right now no and actually you know what it's so funny because I was having a conversation with my son about that he um he was complaining you know I have chores in my house you know kids have to do their chores so set the table wash the dishes you know now I make a point you know I cook at you know they come from school I'm cooking you know they so one has to set the table whoever sets the table the other has to wash the dishes and there is like you have to clean your room you have to do the basic stuff you know my daughter is doing amazingly she loves it and she's like really good and very proud of herself mom look how good I cleaned the dishes like she's really good and she's washing herself she's not putting it in the machine she wants to learn how to really wash it and and and do it right and she's very focused on it my son is like always like why do I have to do this you know so actually we had like a breakthrough this Christmas this this whole holiday season because I said he says to me I'm going to leave home when I'm 18 mom and I don't know if I'm going to go to college you didn't go to college you didn't go to school I'm going to just leave home when I'm 18 and I'm going to do this and I'm going to do that I'm like okay that's great so you're going to leave in your own apartment and who's going to cook for you and who's going to wash your dishes and who's going to clean your clothes who's going to do that and he's like for a second he's like because you're not going to have a chef and like a you know like and he was thinking for a second and I say well this is why when mommy tells you to do those things at home you know is because I want to give you more tools for your tool boox because when you learn how to do those things and they become second nature to you then you don't even have to think about it you become empowered to do it for yourself you don't depend on anybody and that's nothing it's amazing to be able to do that I said you know what made me feel so like strong and capable when I left my home because my mom taught me how to do those things so when I left home and I was leaving by myself at 14 years old I was first at 13 at 14 I moved to Japan but because I was leaving in the mod's apartment I was the only person there who knew how to clean cook iron do absolutely everything in the house because my mom taught me and it was easy for me I didn't think it was a struggle I was happy to do it and I was happy to to do it for the other girls that didn't know how to do it but if you're going to be planning on leaving on your own at 18 who do you think is going to do all those things for you so all I'm telling you is like take advantage that mommy's here for you right now and I'm able to teach you all those things and you can do it at your time I'm not telling you like at this time you have to wash the dishes so let me just help you I'm going to create a list for you and you just have to do them and you can decide if you want to wash clothes once or twice a week you can decide if you want to wash the dishes right after dinner or before you go to bed whatever you want but if you learn how to do those things you're going to see how empowered you're going to feel and the more tools we can put like the more things like the simple things like that that you can learn and that you can equip your tool box to do you're just going to be just that much like capable and and and there's nothing more fulfilling than feeling like you're able to do stuff that you're capable and then he looked at me and he's like okay mom so when we get back home you give me that list and I'm going to do it I'm like I wow I was going to say like he actually he actually receiv that I I think I have a breakthrough I think I got a breakthrough with the hormones are raging like whatever mom you know storming off like you can get you can get that reaction too that was good good job don't you think that was a good thing but but I used but you see it was a moment that I used what he said because when he thought to himself that's true how am I going to do all that stuff I said you don't want to live in like a you know a messy stinky place that is not clean like you know you want to like have you know so you need to know how to do this stuff and I think all I I see like all the things that happen in life like that like different tools we acquire you know even the job that I you know my job like all the tools that I've acquired in this job all the things that I've learned to do um that I don't know when I'm going to use I use them for my job but maybe I'm going to they going to be useful like in 20 years from my life sure but you came from very different circumstances it's the it's the Peril of success right like you and and the kid's dad like worked very hard to achieve all of these things in life and now they're reared in you know like an insane degree of privilege and it becomes more difficult to instill that kind of work ethic into somebody who you know grows up that way I think you're correct I think it becomes a lot more difficult but I think goes back to the discipline and it goes back to priorities and I think it for me it becomes about what kind of you know I I feel like I'm their Guardian because we don't possess our children right I mean we just come here they come through us but they're as much as our teachers as we are they're teachers and we're constantly learning and teaching you know in every relationship in our life and and I feel that we get this moment in time which is very short in a way that we get to influence our children because then they go I mean look at my parents they had 14 years to influence me then I was out in the world and I never went back and I keep remembering like what are all the things that if they wouldn't have taught me those things where would I be today and I'm so grateful for them for for those lessons and I feel like yes I grew up in very different circumstances than my kids and it is a bit more challenging to have them you know make their bed and wash the dishes and clean their you know when I have a person that can do it too but I make a point of me doing it so then they learn that oh Mommy's doing the dinner Mommy is making the breakfast mommy is so they're like weel you have to model and I feel like it's a different kind of modeling is it is the type of modeling that I prefer it's it's the type of modeling that I find to be the important type of modeling because that's the you know I mean what's Mo the most important thing you're going to do in your life I feel like raising children is is by far the most challenging thing I've ever done and the most uh fulfilling at the same time and you know but I feel that if if I if I don't do that if I don't equip my children to be good capable assets you know for themselves in their lives if they're not going to be then I fail I I feel yeah you haven't done your job then I haven't done my job I mean I feel that's my job I mean that's a job I do to kind of make a living so I can like you know put foot on the table and have but my real job as as I think as a as a mom and I chose to be a mom so I have to show up for my kids and I feel like this things that my you know I think is really what shaped me and what made me who I am today was definitely the upbringing that I had and and what my parents how they guided me and I feel like that's really important so I make that a priority in my life to make sure that my kids are going to have even though they don't have those same needs you know to do those things because my mom didn't have a a person she could pay to come clean the house we had to you clean the bathroom you clean the you know it was like a list all of us have to share between us who's going to do what and we grew up that way and it was kind of fun because you know I was always I always love the cleaning part you know I love organizing and cleaning I feel like a clean house is a clean mind is like a what's out is in you know if like if everything is organized outside I can think um and I tell my kids that and I feel that um if I can really get them to do those simple things in life you know and and learn those things and teach them how to be self-sufficient and capable human beings I feel like I've done my job and then I can rest and then whatever else they do the choices they make if they choose to eat the food that I fed them when they were little if now they want to go eat you know whatever or I mean it's going to be what they're going to do you know they're going to choose their friends hopefully they they choose wisely because in the end of the day they're going to be the one dealing with the consequences of their actions and I always tell them like listen you know you're going to go out there and you're going to make the Cho whatever choice you make there are going to be consequences you're dealing with those consequences me this is your life and sometimes they need to they need to make those mistakes and face those consequences like we had I mean how many mistakes that I mean I have and those those experiences are formative like I'm sure if you look in the rear view mirror and think about the panic attacks that you were having on airplanes and your inability to get into an elevator and you know this desire to jump off your balcony on some level you wouldn't wish that experience on anybody but you probably wouldn't wna change your experience either because it's set in motion this whole sensibility and way of being that you now have and I think with kids they regardless of whether they hear you in the moment or whether they go out into the world and make a bunch of mistakes like they come back yeah and whatever you taught them it's in there and at some point when they're ready or whatever like they return to it and you know and and I think to to trust that it's very important and I also feel like because if you try to overly control it you're going to drive them away absolutely and and you know I think for me I keep going back to me as a kid and the trust my parents had in me to let me go and I wouldn't be who I am today if it wasn't for them trusting in me and for all the mistakes that I've made and then had to come the other side and figure out for myself so I think it's important to give our children the Dignity of Their Own process you know because we had a dignity you know we have to go through our own process to become who we are and I think as long as they know that we are there and what what is our values you know is like those things that are important what is what is that we stand for what's important for us you know as as as as a as a value as a core value as as as a being a good human being and a good person and if you thought that your children and and they and they got it in the end of the day they're going to go out there in the world and they're going to have to make their mistakes and I I think the best thing you can do for them it's is just be there for them whenever they they come back and if they want your help you know and I think it's it's hard because you want to protect them like you can put Bobble wrap on them so like nothing will touch them and they will be safe but in the end of the day that's unrealistic and it's like it doesn't work anyway you know what I like this idea you know there's a metaphor of the butterfly imagine the caterpillar as she's transforming into becoming the butterfly she's you know eating eating all the you know until she finally starts spinning into a cocoon and and then she has to like go through that whole stous process if you ever seen like you know they turn into GP yeah but they're like but it's exactly it's just and it's really kind of like hard to like when they're coming out it's like really awkward and it looks like they're very strenuous and very difficult so if you go in there and you try to help them come out you're going to them you're going to the butterfly and she won't be able to have the strength she needs struggle is the struggle is what crucial to the the growth and you have to give them the Dignity of their own process you have to be and I and I keep reminding myself I cannot take away that opportunity for them because my parents gave me the opportunity for me to go through my own challenges and I grew and and I want my kids to have that same opportunity because whoever they're going to become is going to be based on what their choice is and hopefully I gave them enough good examples and and and good um values where they would make the choices that is right for them you know what is it that you want people to understand or take away from the new book and and how you are modeling this lifestyle um whether it's dietary changes Lifestyle Changes uh movement practices how can somebody who is interested in kind of leveling up across the board begin the process of of making those changes in their life you know it's funny you know because when I decided to do a cookbook I'm the farthest thing there is from a chef let me tell you something I I am not a chef let me just like let's be honest you've got a private Chef in home that person is taking care of everything not anymore I used to you don't anymore no I don't I don't it's no the last two years I don't you're cooking your own meals yes I'm cooking my own meals yeah I I grew up there way and I want like I told you like my priority is showing my kids what I believe it's important for them and and and I can't I can't say oh this is important and then I have and I'm not doing it you know what I mean so it has to be cohesive right and and I think that for me um really being like living what I believe is very important and I was showing my kids that this is important to me like the only way I'm going to show them that is by doing that so yes I had chefs and this is how I learn how to cook a lot of the things a lot of the recipes in the book are like inspired by the things that I created with the chefs that I throughout the years I had the opportunity to you know to really work with Incredible people incredible Chef people that love food as much as I do because I love food um but was really an idea for me to look I can say go and meditate go and exercise you know I believe meditation I believe rest I believe um exercise I believe nutrition all of those things are extremely important for you to be able to take kind of ownership of your health and really take care of yourself and have and work on just having a more clear mind and just feeling more connected to yourself I think all of those things are different aspects of it but the reason about the cookbook is quite frankly I was seeing kids were coming to our house and in play dates and and moms will come and be like how did you get my kid to eat broccoli or roasted vegetables or and it was like so simple and I was like oh maybe we can share how to make some simple recipes that are super easy you can make it like in 10 minutes and you know moms some you know you just sometimes feel overwhelmed and I know because life is busy there's so so much going on so I was like how can I help in this way and also I feel like food is a perfect time for you to practice being present and mindful because you can eat like on a rush and not being present and the food have a one effect in your body or you can do something which is what I talk about in the book is like every time I look at my food not only the act of preparing your food there so much loves and you're touching the food and you're connecting with your food that's one thing but even if you're not the one cooking your food just to take a moment to bless your food to acknowledge that that is something that is alive that you're taking it and you're that's also your source of life you know so it's kind of like connecting to the food in that way I think it it does something because everything is energy so you're having a transfer of energy with something and with the intention that you're eating it has a different I I feel huge you know when I start doing that does make a difference how he has a different just being present and being connected to what you're doing having gratitude for that moment and you get to do that three times a day you know I mean now I have a juice once a day but I still blast my juice but it's just kind of like it's just this book what I would like to to to for people to take is like it can be really simple it doesn't have to be complicated to to eat healthy and really like if you have plans you know my mom taught me you know since I was a kid like no food waste so how can we organize our meals so can there's a big thing about like reducing waste yeah there for me that's huge and also like me planning like if you're going to buy because or you know food sourcing that's huge it's not about having something with a lot of condiments and a lot of stuff it's just like keep it simple but buying really great quality products like if you can do that and then instead of like because a lot of people are like oh and then you buy organic and then you throw it out because it's like you know it spoils much faster and I'm like yeah but if you have a meal planning and I and I teach that I kind of give some suggestions in the book like my mom did that I grew up like that because she didn't have time you know she was working all the time so she had like in the fridge like what we going to have for the whole week so she would go to the groceries and she would buy and then the things were allowed to the next day so you would always know what we were eating and things that wouldn't be eaten could be easily transferred for the next day and be made into the next organiz so that nothing spoils and you're so nothing spoils and you never had food waste because you're always taking it from one day to the next so is never wasting you always	for big boss and then the third one is you know it's like it's life I feel like that's what life is you get like the new tools so you get equipped and then you go to the next challenge that is a bigger one and then is a bigger one I feel like that's why we're here you know to keep seeing how we can expand how much more we can to grow to evolve to expand to see how strong and how creative and how you know how can how much we can experience of all this wonder how did you how did you plug that into the fast-paced life of of your modeling career because it's one thing if you're living a more kind of grounded atome lifestyle where you can control your food and your environment a little bit better but when you're flying all over the world and you're on these sets and there's craft service and it's junk food like you have to be way ahead of the curve to prepare everything to have everything kind of organized for yourself because how do you you if you're in just hotels all over the place and you arrive at midnight like how are you getting your you know like how did so how did you manage all of that you have to be very discipline I think you know when I I did this book called lessons and um and it was like everything starts	8	6	7	for big boss and then the third one is you know it's like it's life I feel like that's what life is you get like the new tools so you get equipped and then you go to the next challenge that is a bigger one and then is a bigger one I feel like that's why we're here you know to keep seeing how we can expand how much more we can to grow to evolve to expand to see how strong and how creative and how you know how can how much we can experience of all this wonder	how did you how did you plug that into the fast-paced life of of your modeling career because it's one thing if you're living a more kind of grounded atome lifestyle where you can control your food and your environment a little bit better but when you're flying all over the world and you're on these sets and there's craft service and it's junk food like you have to be way ahead of the curve to prepare everything to have everything kind of organized for yourself because how do you you if you're in just hotels all over the place and you arrive at midnight like how are you getting your you know like how did so how did you manage all of that you have to be very discipline	8,6,9	2,4,5	8	6	9	2	4	5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjK5ahIgsHA	4,193	rjK5ahIgsHA	2024-03-25 00:00:00	the choices that you're making are really either supporting you or not straight from the pages of Victoria Secret please welcome jaelle bunin gazelle bunin gazelle has walked in nearly 500 fashion shows and great the covers of more than 1,200 different magazines on paper like you're perhaps highly unrelatable you know what it is it's a character that's the job I do to kind of make a living so I can like you know put foot on the table raising children is is by far the most challenging thing I've ever done it's a different kind of modeling is the type of modeling that I prefer food is a perfect time for you to practice being present and mindful because it can be really simple it doesn't have to be complicated to eat healthy nature is just like it's me instead of like trying to control nature we need to just like take a humble pill and and learn from the Big Mama [Music] today's episode is brought to you by the awesome organizations that make this show [Music] possible so nice to meet you nice to meet you too so excited to have you here today yes when this opportunity presented itself I was like of course I want to talk to Jazelle and then I had my own like sort of mini panic attack we're going to get into panic attacks I'm like what could I possibly talk to this person about the alltime great super model of all time everybody knows this on paper like you're perhaps highly unrelatable but then the more you dig into your story and the more I kind of learned about your Arc and your past and what brought you to this place there's so much that's deeply relatable and your kind of transformation story is remarkably similar to mine although you did yours at like 23 I was 40 um but there's so much in there so I thought it would be cool to kind of um talk a little bit about what it was like what happened and how you made these changes in your life because I think you're in this interesting new season right now where despite the fact that you've been this Wellness Advocate and wellness Warrior for a long time my sense is that there's a there's a more full Embrace of of that now with kind of how you see yourself and what's important to you a well thank you for the introduction you know the funny thing is I you know people's you know what I did for a living is something that kind of just happened to me at 14 years old you know it was it was like hey do you want to be a model and I thought oh I can help my family you know I can do make a living and and help you know I have five sisters and and all that so modeling to me is something that is um an opportunity that came along like I think in life you have these opportunities that either you take that train and then see where it goes you know and I never even believed that this was going to take me and I was going to be doing this for almost 30 years you know it's it's one of those things that I was like oh I'll start doing this job and you know send money home and help my sisters go through school and do all that and um and maybe in five years you know I'll get a house because I didn't even go to school you know I I I was emancipated at 14 yeah you were in Tokyo at 14 I was living in Japan without speaking English and J or Japanese and that's when I when I start learning the language of of of energy you know what I mean because you don't have to understand the language you just have to feel you know something there's a lot more that has been said without words you know sure so I start learning about that um but I think that I went through this journey of modeling which was something I thought was going to last five years and I was just going to help my family out for a little bit and it just kept going you know it just kept happening you know I I didn't even think you can have longevity in this career because it's not what I what I saw really around me happening um but you know I kept it kept working out so I kept doing it and it was kind of a Mindless thing you know when you got in the hamster wheel and I think we do that sometimes in life and you're so young you don't know and you Liv the fast life and all of that so in my early 20s I um developed you know anxiety and panic attacks and all that because you know when you drink a bottle of wine and that because you like I used to be a smoker so I smoke I can't even imagine I used to smoke it feels like a whole different life you know but um it was the late 90s and there was a lot of um drugs and fashion and all that so I thought I was saying just because I was like having some wine and smoking cigarettes everybody was doing way worse things than yeah I'm sure you've seen a lot I've seen a lot yeah that's a whole other show about that that's a whole other story but yeah so um you know so that was the beginning for me to start reconnecting with myself because I think when I was 14 and I got that train my only focus was like how can I be the best that I can do on this and and and that was my focus and and I didn't meure any sacrifice he was like if I had to work 360 days a year and I felt like I couldn't say no because people were giving me a chance and then I was like in this really overdrive uh and burn down my adrenals I found out later when I found this amazing natural Doctor Who told me like listen you don't have any more adrenal they're shut down because you burn them basically I'm like but I'm only 22 you know so um basically I had to change the habits that I you know smoking a pack of cigarettes drinking alcohol every day to myself down coffee all day to keep myself up and also going from you know one time zone to the next I was three days in Paris two days in London one day in New York going back to you know my life was in a living in a suitcase and of course your nervous system is going to freak out you know and the way I was eating it was very you know anything that was in front of me I was just like not mindful about anything you know I was just kind of um like a Workhorse and when that happen to me is when I you know I come from a family that is very my my grandmother had a tea for everything so we never had we were not the kind of you know you get sick let me see this herbal remedy that we you know so yeah you grew up in kind of a small village right in Brazil your grandmother was cultivating herbs and she was the person that everyone would go to for their remedy so you have this sort of background and connection you know with the Earth exactly that you know is kind of lingering in the back of your mind when you're just you know hammering nails and and you know drinking wine and living that life but you're young it's like that's kind of what your 20s are for kind of and you're you're on this like Jet Plane I mean figuratively and literally like your career's taking off on top of that a people pleasing tendency where you feel like you have to say yes to everything and you're just go go go go go yeah and and I think but that was a big wakeup call for me because I think sometimes you know you have to reach rock bottom and when I had that those anxiety and they start becoming like almost CRI because I couldn't get on planes he was just you know I was going to all these doctors and they were like you have to take this stuff and I was just afraid of taking anything because I've never taken anything you know I was a there was a t for for this there you know my grandmother wasn't there so finally you know I wasn't going to take any medication because just the idea of taking something I was like I was normal before how can I go back being what I was you know like I I I didn't have these issues so what's happening long story short I found this doctor I had to replace my habits it was that simple I had to replace these habits that had created the reality I was living at that moment which was you know um really killing me in in so many ways you know killing my spirit killing my and and I replace it with good habits so now instead of smoking cigarettes and having a mocha frappuccino in the morning I'll would go out and do breath work and go out for a run and you know I replace in one day I gave up everything because he he looked at me he said jelle he called me Adrenalina he says do you want to live and I said I do he's like so we going to CH change my diet and that's for the first time in my life that I realized that I I was really like the one who got myself there and I was the only person who could get myself out by the choices that I was making so I had to take full responsibility for what I had created but it was in my power only in my power to change that there were no doctors nobody who was going to save me I had to change um you know the choices I was making and I and I did that and it was incredible because after over a year and a half like really struggling with anxiety and panic attacks and all that within 3 months I was like I never had another incident and it was you know and and once you start meditating I mean at that point this was 20 years ago right it wasn't like people were talking about meditation and yoga any other that um it was just um you know when you sit in silence and you and you reflect which is what we don't really give ourselves time to do because the world is so fastpaced and everything is catching your attention is trying to throw you off your Center you know everything is so busy it's like an overload of information to have that space to go inside and reflect and look and really take a step back I think that was the biggest blessing of my life so really I think what could have killed me is what gave me a whole new life and it was amazing because since then like everything changed like I realized that food is my medicine I realized that I am the director of my own movie that I'm creating my reality based on the choices that I'm making but what I'm choosing to not the people I'm choosing to have around in my life but what type of energy what kind of thoughts I allow to what am I feeding you know what kind of thoughts am I so all of that so that became like a big um changing of seasons for me in my early 20s what were those first couple weeks like if you went completely cold turkey on all of these bad habits I think it was like a drug addict I never was a I guess I was a drug etic only legal drugs because I guess alcohol is a drug and so is cigarettes nicotine and all that and caffeine and all that but they're like socially accepted but I tell you that I had the worst migraine I mean I felt like the I mean maybe that's what a person who's going like you have gone to to rehab right so I'm I don't know what you felt I would love to hear but I for me it was like right I mean I don't know about that sub it's the only way I know how to do it though I don't understand how people kind of phase out of stuff like you have to for me you have to draw the line and step over it and it's going to suck and you're going to be uncomfortable for a while while um but you know that on the other side of that lies all of this opportunity and possibility um but uh and that's what happened to me I think there was that because what I knew I knew that what I was and what if you do what you've always done you're going to get what you've always gotten is that simple and what I realized at that moment that what I what I created for myself was not what I wanted I needed to a drastic change and then he was like draw the line stopped everything in one day and the migraines and all of that like the consequences of what I had done I had to deal with them you know it took me like two weeks I think I was like having the worst migraines just because I didn't know if it was the nicotine the caffeine the alcohol I don't know what it was but it was all of it together and um but then it was amazing because from that experience I I became so much stronger and I and there are lots of different things that happen in my life after that I feel like every time we get tested it's like the Super Mario you know like the little video game when you go to do the big boss like you go through all the phases and you go to level one the big boss is like one it's okay to defeat that one but then the second one is like a tough for big boss and then the third one is you know it's like it's life I feel like that's what life is you get like the new tools so you get equipped and then you go to the next challenge that is a bigger one and then is a bigger one I feel like that's why we're here you know to keep seeing how we can expand how much more we can to grow to evolve to expand to see how strong and how creative and how you know how can how much we can experience of all this wonder how did you how did you plug that into the fast-paced life of of your modeling career because it's one thing if you're living a more kind of grounded atome lifestyle where you can control your food and your environment a little bit better but when you're flying all over the world and you're on these sets and there's craft service and it's junk food like you have to be way ahead of the curve to prepare everything to have everything kind of organized for yourself because how do you you if you're in just hotels all over the place and you arrive at midnight like how are you getting your you know like how did so how did you manage all of that you have to be very discipline I think you know when I I did this book called lessons and um and it was like everything starts to discipline that was like my first chapter and that's what I believe you have to decide you have and then you have to have the discipline to follow through so once you realize that these choices that you are making are having a positive impact in your life you want to continue doing them you know what I mean you don't want to fall back and just something that it didn't feel good that's your past like you don't want to go back there again so you're going to stick to the plan like this is what's working and this is what made me feel good again so I'm going to stick to this and of course it's not 100% you have to be compassionate with yourself too and say you I'll be like you know life is hard as it is you need to bit yourself in the head sometimes if you go and you oh you know I had like um I was exhausted I had like a banana bread or something or I had you know but I think you realize that the choices that you're making are are really either supporting you or not you know supporting you living the life that making you feel good and living the life that you want and is taking to the direction where you want to go or not and then it's just kind of an easier choice to make right and then I feel like when I go to the jobs you know I got to the point in my life where people know how I eat and you know I can tell people like listen this is what I want I want you got extensive riter yeah I kind of you know because I was already working for so long so I I have you know I got to the I guess really the privilege to be able to to kind of say like this is the kind of things that I would like to eat so please at the job you know if you're working 10 12 hours in a studio can we have these things available you know what I mean so then it was easier to keep the food healthy you know um because I think that's so important and then just to say I feel like and then saying no to those things you know like coffee or alcohol or things that I was just so used to because I was still in that same environment the environment hadn't changed I had changed but all of that was around me still but then it was just a choice of saying you know I feel great and I haven't drank alcohol in over two years now too this is something you know I even when I went back drinking after it was very moderate you know I was still like like I would drink socially sometimes you know peer pressure sometimes like oh come on have a drink you know and then you like feel like especially in my world I mean everyone pretty much is like socially having a drink so I would be like okay I'll have a drink but then he got to a point that I was like and that was like 20 years later because it just happened over two years ago I was like I don't want to drink like I don't care what anyone thinks and I don't care if they have Fe peer pressure I'm going to have my Min tea my cam tea and if they want to drink I'm not making anyone feel bad about drinking they can do whatever they want this is their Temple you know this is my temple I get to choose and they shouldn't make me feel bad that I don't want to you know so um then I kind of stood up for myself I think that happens after your 40s like you care less about what other people think and um wait till you're 50 oh my God I can't wait for that I'm gonna like he's he's gonna be amazing but I think the thing you mentioned you mentioned like being directed and and and being kind of dedicated to your path and and and I feel like that's the underappreciated aspect of of understanding you and your career a lot of people arrive in New York City every single day with a similar dream or ambition that you had when you were a young person and you arrived there and a lot of those people are very beautiful you're beautiful but that doesn't tell the story of how you translated like an opportunity into the career that you had and I think between the lines there is an intense work ethic and a very intentional approach to what you were doing like how did you apply those skills like what is the differentiator between you and the career that you've enjoyed versus you know the other beautiful people who aren't enjoying the same kind of career you can't and you're not allowed to say luck or you're you know no I don't believe I don't believe in luck I don't believe in luck I believe in hard work and but I believe in um I mean I think discipline but I also believe that I always treated everyone the way I like to be treated and I've always was appreciative I have this immense sense of gratitude for just being there so even though you know people were like oh you know you you know when I was 19 I was like I want the model of you know the model of the year and everybody's like how does it feel to be it didn't really it doesn't matter to me because quite frankly I never saw myself as a motel it's just not something I didn't drink the Kool-Aid I didn't believe because I was a model or because I I became successful in this job like I was better than anybody I just and I didn't believe that I believe that I just got to learn that craft really well and I understood what the job entail and like I learned how to do the job really well but by no means is what defined me it's just something I did it's not it's not who I am I don't know if you know it's like I go there I had this opportunity at you know 13 14 years old when I finally left home and and and and St pursued this career that really I thought it was just really I did it for the money I did it because I was like what else am I going to do at 14 years old that I can help my family you know I don't have any other jobs that are offering me an opportunity so I'll take this one so for me it was really like a job so I never like it didn't kind of Define me I kind of did it my way like I never became like you know it was like oh it needs to be glamorous I was never glamorous I'm a jeans and t-shirt type of girl like I if I needed to go to parties or hang out with this type of people I never did any of that like I went there I did my job I did the best that I could I never was late in my life for my jobs like never showed up like late I was there before everyone I was there 100% you know I I I just wanted to make sure that if people were booking me and they they were trusting in me that I was going to show up and deliver you know and I think that's kind of what it was I did it my way you know and it didn't broke me kind of Cu I saw you know people in this business you know you can lose yourself because if you drink the Kool-Aid if you start thinking you know like you lose yourself in it I never lost myself it was just a job and it's still just a job I can't even believe I'm still doing it sometimes I go in and I do it you it's not it's not what I do full- time anymore but it's just one of those things that you know I got to do this I got to make a career out of it and got to make a great living and help my family and I I have wonderful you know I got to travel the world and learn different languages and and and all of that and that's how I see it I don't see it as a you know I don't see myself you're not defined by it you're not you're not caught up in in the kind of dark underbelly of that very strange world this whole world is like almost like a parallel reality for me you know what I mean if something is like a switch on button I go there I do my job I take my picture I turn it off I go home and I have the same friends I have my my family I'm very close with my family but I think you're very good at seeing opportunities when they arise and you tell a little story in in in the new book about being 14 and on route to Tokyo and your parents gave you your dad gave you a little bit of money that was intended for getting a cab from that's the first day arve in s Paulo and instead of using that money oh it was you were super young right so you had a little bit of money to take a tab and you had the presence of mind to say this money would be better spent buying some clothes so I can do better in my auditions or whatnot um which isn't like that's not normal like that's somebody who's thinking ahead who's planning long term who's understanding that they have an opportunity in front of them and trying to figure out how to make the most out of it with limited resources and I think that speaks to or says a lot about your sensibility or your perspective as a business person yeah I mean it's so interesting to see it that way I mean I for me at that moment in time you know I I I just felt like I did something else than that you know that was one of the things and now that you're saying that I actually did that throughout because I bought my first apartment when I was 19 years old and when everybody was buying you know designer bags all the models and you know like remember I didn't know I was going to last in this business I thought like I didn't go to school I didn't go to high school I didn't you know I I left I I went to work and whenever I go I go back I thought I was going to be a farmer or something because I just always love the land and but I I didn't think like you know like where am I going to go from here so I have to make sure that I have at least a place to live I'm a cancer so I want to have like a stable home and when I was 19 you know people start flying me first class because I was like the model of the year right saw all the clients now are paying me first class I was exchanging those tickets for Coach classes because I was every two three days in a different country and instead of paying um my you know a rent in an apartment I pay I put down a down payment for an apartment and then I was paying my mortgage instead of paying rent and you're 19 and I was 19 so I I own my first apartment as 19 years old it was like a in in New York City it was like facing a wall of another building mind you he was like a very apartment you know that does require some maturity and some long-term thinking well well because I just thought to myself like you know I don't know how long I'm going to stay here you know I i' I at least I have to have a place to live if I like I'm not going to live empty-handed you know what I mean like what do I care about a bag or like what is that going to give me it's not going to be a roof over my head I need to make sure that I have that I can spend in the right places but I think that sense came from my mother because we grew up you know my mother was a cashier in the bank my father had like lots of different jobs like he had a real estate job but he was you know my mom they literally we we were like really simple people and grew up in two bedrooms with six girls and and and money was all always tight so I learned how to is the same thing in the book is like how do you prepare how do you not waste food I mean everything is like I think in my life I was kind of like raised that way you know what I mean kind of plan ahead like for tomorrow so you make sure that you have like food for everyone like like we're going to reuse the meat we cook on the barbecue and we're going to put it in the rice we're going to have carera so we're going to have an abundant meal because we have the rest of the you know what I mean it's kind of like that it's like you put money in the bank so when you retire you have something to to live off when you can no longer work the same thing I feel about food like you eat the right food so when you're older you you're able to have the energy and your body is functioning because you made the right choices so for me it's the same thing you know it's kind of making like just being kind of what is necessary here like do I really need this what do I need more do I need a roof over my head or do I need this this bags and this stuff do I need to take a taxi when I arrive to the model apartment when I'm 14 even though I never been to the city or can I take the subway and save the money so I can get the clothes for the casting and maybe I can get a job it's like it's kind of thinking like with the resources that I have right now what is the smartest how is the smartest way to use them I guess if you're like me never without a water bottle let's get it right people allow me to rock your world with my new favorite toy that's actually not a toy at all it's a non-negotiable essential camel backs Podium steel 100% % leak proof water bottle emphasis on leak proof for all you Gearheads this is built for the bike but honestly this simple but elegant stainless steel Contraption is built for anything and everything it keeps whatever you put in it cold for hours and straight up goes everywhere I do for all you weight weenies out there Campell back actually also offers an ultra lightweight titanium version very beautiful shall we level up yes we shall because right now Campell back is offering an exclusive discount just for you all my people so stop what you're doing and type up Campell back.com sign up with your email and use my code Rich Roll for 20% off your entire purchase at checkout or you can click the link in the description [Music] below there feels like a distinction a difference between jizelle bunin and the things that you care about being this sort of homebody family person holistic lifestyle like all of this stuff and then you know Gizelle the the runway you know on the runway like it's almost an alter ego it might be an alter ego he said but it's you know what it is it's a character I always call call it her because I think being a MTO what I understood as being a motto is to play a character in a silent movie you know you get to experience all these different charact all these different aspects of of of being a woman let's say because one designer wants you to be more androgynous you know one designer was you know I remember diding a Balin Saga campaign I was like they made me a boy I was like literally like a week I was like a man a boy and in one I was like the sexy Versace campaign like you know like with big hair and like you know pushup bra you know so it was kind of like I got to play from the the androgynous girl to the very sexy to the tomb boy like I got to you know I mean you should see I don't know if you ever saw my book the other one that was like the 20 years I did a 20 well I watched the video that you did where you kind of went through it and you were talking about what was going on with you with each of those photographs yeah so it's it's it's it's really about kind of playing these different roles but it's just instead of you talking like you would be in a movie you're just you got to make the image that picture that one capture image to to it's a performance art it's a performance art but it's such a weird world I know that like Alexander McQueen he was like he was really the Catalyst right he was the guy who gave me the chance you know he gave me the the chance but when you watch his shows or some of these other shows like the designs are are stunning and gorgeous but they're also totally inaccessible it's like who wears this does anybody is there anybody in the world that even wear I mean if you're Lady Gaga I guess or somebody like that but like yeah it's a fantasy and so it's curious like how does that translate into I guess it's just how you feel and how you think about a particular designer or a brand and not so much about directly selling those designs to the person who's going to the department store or the boutique right yeah they're not thinking I don't even understand the business model of the whole thing yeah I me neither to be honest with you but I think it's a really I mean I think it has changed a lot uh since I started like I see a big shift because I think before there was a lot more creativity there was allowed a lot more creativity I think you know McQueen or JN galano you know the shows and stuff like you were like in a world like sure and the photographers being rock stars themselves oh yeah and and it was a I think it was a moment in time where there was so much less about selling but it was much more about the the inspiration and the aspir aspiring you know the aspiration of creating like a fantasy and like a and it was a lot of fun then I have to say at that time because I would have been dead I wouldn't have survived it I would have gone all in I would have been at every after hours party it would have been a disaster you see I was in bed like studying my astrology books like by 10 you know that was me I was like by 10 I was like oh no I have to go I was like I have to start early so I can go to bed early so for me it was a a different thing but um you know but I guess for me I also fell very responsible because I didn't want to one of the The Guiding lights for me I really believe was my parents because I saw how hard they work and I didn't want to disappoint them so I think part of like me being so stay on the line was like I'm not disappointing my parents I don't care if they're not here they are going to know what I'm doing like I remember part of the reason why I got so freaked out about the McQueen show and they sent me out like without a top because I couldn't speak English and they didn't even do a feeding anyway so then I was I was like oh my God if my parents see this they're GNA make me go back home and then I you know what is it like when you go internet but there was no internet in 1997 19 it wasn't so thank God because they didn't even saw that otherwi they would have been like what what are you doing I be like I don't know and you have five siblings right I have five sisters I'm a middle child I have two older sisters and two younger sisters and I'm a twin MH in the middle so we like the the sandwich like the cheese in the sandwich being Brazilian uh you're connected to the Amazon and to climate change issues and you've done a lot in terms of your environmental advocacy and clean water initiatives talk a little bit about how that began and and what that looked like now you know I um I've always been a big um basically like a child of nature I always tell my children when they ask you know what's your religion they say Mom we don't go to church I say you know what you're in church every day I say I say what do I say when people ask what my what my religion is I say love is your religion and nature is your church that's your Cathedral that's the big church that's our Temple you know so you honor your temple you love your temple you CU that's the only reason why we are all alive because this whole ecosystem is making it possible you know to grow our food to give us to provide us with all the things we need to survive so U and that's how I grew up I felt that way and especially having a grandmother that everything was from the earth you know she grew everything she ate and and uh you know the Earth was giving us the herbs that we needed to like when we fell ill and and I grew up in that way so when you grew up in that way and you grew up running around bare feet you know I come from a small village and anytime you want to eat something you grab there was like a tangerine tree or like a orange tree or is a plum tree and you just go and pick up the fruit from the tree we never bought fruits from the supermarket you know you go either you had it in your backyard or your neighbor had it or the other neighbor you know somebody had the fruit he wanted to eat you just go grab it so I think when you leave with that connection to Nature you have a different appreciation it's like so I feel like nature is just like it's it's it's me like I think we are n you know we are that and I think this connection from nature for me is not something it's just something I've always known you know is how I grew up and so for me um taking care of which I love which is nature is natural um so the but the first time I realized there was really problems happening is when I went to actually spend some time uh with the indigenous people in shingu area of the Amazon in the 2004 and that's when the first time I realized you know pesticide what's what pesticides were doing where mining was doing how they were contaminating the rivers and basically all the indigenous tribes they were living and depending on the that water they were getting sick and even though they were living very wholesomely you know with nature and you know by the impact that the big farms and different Mining and all that stuff was having um was really um having a really terrible impact in their in their their livelihoods and and that's when the first time I was like I need to do something about it and that's when I started like I had a flipflop line at the time in Brazil and we gave a percentage you know to that's actually a funny story the the the indigenous people and I was like I wonder what they would do with this with this funds but it was like a group that helped indigenous in Brazil and the funny enough when I did when I turned 40 this was in 2004 so I was like 24 cut to when I'm 40 2020 I was 40 um I wanted to do something for my 40th birthday and I was like oh I want to plant some trees in the in in the Amazon and how we going to do it so we looked around for who can help us do that and we contacted the the people that are working with the indigenous people that we knew in in Brazil and they're like we have the largest seed bank in the Amazon and we started with the money with the whole program that you gave in 2004 that money that was for the sale of the flipflops now years later they had the largest seed bank of you know the indigenous they they they collected the larger seed bank and this is how with that whole group of people we basically planted over 300,000 trees in that area of the Amazon so that was like years later so that's just how funny how life goes but for me because I was so connected to nature and I always wanted to help and my dad always said you know water is the most important thing and of course I saw that with the indigenous people because that's how they were all getting sick because all the the you know residue of Mining and and and pesticides were going into their water in my little village we were having a lot of problems with agriculture as well where there was a lot of runoffs from Roundup and all the stuff that they use in agriculture all the pesticides and stuff and it was getting a lot of people sick so we actually did the AGA limpa program in 200 I think it was 20 the N or I don't remember when we started but it was like a long time ago and I funded it and my dad who's also a sociologist worked with the university and we and we basically regenerated the whole area of the river that was kind of you know getting the water to the city and we were able to clean it it took us like a few years to do it you know it was pretty simple because all we had to do I mean it was not simple my dad is the one who did the work it was simpler for me I just kind of funded it but he was there every day he had to work with I don't know how many farmers you had to take their pie of land and kind of grow the native species Forest you know the native Forest back so then the there's a buffer there was a buffer and then the root systems could could filtrate it before all that stuff would go into the river and then that was the agal limpa project and that was one of the projects we did to clean the water and anyway so there's lots of different things but in overall thing my my thing is you know we got to take care of Mother Earth she takes care of us you know when people say to me oh we're going to save the planet I say you're that's such an ego thing you know as humans we think we're going to save anything the planets is in her own process of evolution this is a you know it's I mean dinosaurs were here before us and you know lur I mean so many different civilizations the planet will be fine that's what I always say I say please don't fool yourself I think we really saving ourselves we need to yeah I say there's no Sav we need re ourselves back yeah this is really about us protecting the resources and and taking care of what we really need for our survival because once we are gone the planet is going to regenerate I mean I've seen this over and over again the planet regenerates itself so quickly you know because it's it's just a very intelligent we need to learn from nature instead of like trying to control nature we need to just like take a humble pill and and learn from the Big Mama we've moved so far away from that and we do live in this dualistic mindset where we think there's you know our environments and then there's nature or there's us and that's outside um but really understanding that you're never out of nature as you as you said um I think it's the first point of trying to really deepen your relationship with the world in which you live we all live and share and I think when it comes to the Amazon like we all hear about deforestation and all the you know clearing that's going on for cattle grazing and the strip mining and all the stuff that you mentioned but it's an abstraction especially for you know people in North America like we know what's going on we know it's bad but I've never visited there like I've never seen it myself and you being Brazilian gives you kind of a deeper appreciation and understanding of the extent of it you know I think it's how people tell the story because I think it's a lot deeper than you know I think people like depending on the industry that wants to benefit from something that tell the story and they say okay this is what we're going to do is about the cing oh yeah it's so crazy a lot of NOS go in there and they say we're going to have an NGO because we're going to like protect Amazon but they're meantime they're the owners of the bigger paper company that comes from the Amazon they are just not you know what I mean so there it's not not all is as it seems no it's it's a very it's a wild wild west there and one of the biggest you know I've been there a few times and also done a lot of um just kind of like talking to people and understanding what happens there and a lot of the you know there's ancient Woods there and a lot of that goes to Europe so like what a lot of the the cattle for example is what they use to kind of occupy the land but what they're really after which is really valuable there is like gold and Min m you know the the rare medals the rare medals yeah the rare medals and the gold and all that stuff that's in there that's what interest this like you know the different um countries let's say they are not brail when they and because it's so corrupt unfortunately you know Brazil is very corrupt the politicians are very corrupt what happens is they sell those rights to those countries and then we have what we have and then the cattle like in the end they just kind of put them there because they have to occupy the land after they REM because they have to enter if you go there after they removed everything because they have to remove the value the value then they then they put all the cows there that's what they do so they remove the ancient wood they they remove the precious metals and and but they have to get there because if you fly over it it mean you're flying for hours over just a Green carpet so for you to have access to that you have to you can't just like clear cut because it grows so what they do to keep the the the forest from growing they just throw because it's very fertile the soil as soon as you cut because imagine that soil is been there like receiving all those back healthy bacteria from the leaves falling super fertile So within like three days you can Grass Grows Right and then in order for the trees not to keep growing because if you just leave abandon that's what's going to happen the birds are going to carry the seeds they're going to drop the seeds they're going to things are going to start growing again and then they won't have access you know so they kind of it's just like a cycle like but what is really after what they're really after it is the big stuff is the is the and and it's not unfortunately you know it's h it's so sad you know is greed mhm in the end of the day is greed and is greed by people that you know they don't have those natural resources where they are and and they understand the situation in Brazil and how corrupt the this the the 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their best interest from a wellness perspective I think the number one thing I feel is like monkey see monkey does right I think you have to be the example you have to leave it um cuz I think whatever you say is one thing and whatever you do you they need to kind they need to whatever you say whatever you do they have to be the same thing right sympatico yeah they have to be sympatico and um and that's what it is and and I think for the kids for my kids were were a lot easier because I was home a lot with them so I was you know taking them to school every day making their breakfast you know just having my Gardens at home growing the food so when the kids would come for play dates at the house you know my kids were grabbing like everything raw cucumbers carrots like green beans they were just grabbing it from the garden and like collecting things and putting in the basket it was like a game for them and it was like oh friends are coming over why are we going to grab for the for to Door picnic outside and then so they grew up in that way you know they they uh so it was easier for me to feed them healthier food and and and and explain to them you know we always compost it we had bees at our house um so you know they they were learning about you know when The Beekeeper would come and they explain you know how much be how much honey can you take and how much money how much honey do you leave for the bees and how does a the how does a queen bee work and all the so they were they're emotionally connected they were emotionally connected they were part of that like I was as a kid so um so for them is really natural and they were also homeschooled for the last three years um during the you know the whole pandemic thing I and we moved from Boston to Tampa so um it was a whole new world for them so I I homeschooled them and now they just went back to school but I have to tell you I see a huge difference especially because my son is 14 now so he wants to kind of push back this is what I'm getting at oh yeah well how old kid well they range from 28 to 16 and each one of there's four and each of them is different um but it's a delicate dance because you know we raised our kids similarly um but they reach a certain age and part of individuation and maturing is taking ownership for your own choices and understanding what you stand for and what you don't and in order to really Define that and hone that you have to go out and kind of push the envelope and try new things otherwise it's just something you're doing because that's the way you were raised and that's what your parents told you as opposed to really owning it for yourself and so so we have learned that you have to have the brains very loose and and let them go out and do what they want to do and control the environment at home but be you know very kind of nonplused if they go and make a choice that you wouldn't make or whatever and just be curious about it and allow them the space to do that and you know you hope they come back and you know do it the way you taught them to um and sometimes they do and sometimes they don't and again every one of them is different in our case but as they get to a certain point and especially you know when they're with peers and friends and they're in social situations those things they have to learn for themselves and you have to allow them to I think it's so interesting so you have to let go a little bit oh let go and let God yeah I tell myself that is like a mantra you know and and and I I I remind myself of like my mom let me leave home she emancipated me and I was leing in Japan at 14 and there was no cell phones like I call you know can you imagine doing that for one of your children right now no and actually you know what it's so funny because I was having a conversation with my son about that he um he was complaining you know I have chores in my house you know kids have to do their chores so set the table wash the dishes you know now I make a point you know I cook at you know they come from school I'm cooking you know they so one has to set the table whoever sets the table the other has to wash the dishes and there is like you have to clean your room you have to do the basic stuff you know my daughter is doing amazingly she loves it and she's like really good and very proud of herself mom look how good I cleaned the dishes like she's really good and she's washing herself she's not putting it in the machine she wants to learn how to really wash it and and and do it right and she's very focused on it my son is like always like why do I have to do this you know so actually we had like a breakthrough this Christmas this this whole holiday season because I said he says to me I'm going to leave home when I'm 18 mom and I don't know if I'm going to go to college you didn't go to college you didn't go to school I'm going to just leave home when I'm 18 and I'm going to do this and I'm going to do that I'm like okay that's great so you're going to leave in your own apartment and who's going to cook for you and who's going to wash your dishes and who's going to clean your clothes who's going to do that and he's like for a second he's like because you're not going to have a chef and like a you know like and he was thinking for a second and I say well this is why when mommy tells you to do those things at home you know is because I want to give you more tools for your tool boox because when you learn how to do those things and they become second nature to you then you don't even have to think about it you become empowered to do it for yourself you don't depend on anybody and that's nothing it's amazing to be able to do that I said you know what made me feel so like strong and capable when I left my home because my mom taught me how to do those things so when I left home and I was leaving by myself at 14 years old I was first at 13 at 14 I moved to Japan but because I was leaving in the mod's apartment I was the only person there who knew how to clean cook iron do absolutely everything in the house because my mom taught me and it was easy for me I didn't think it was a struggle I was happy to do it and I was happy to to do it for the other girls that didn't know how to do it but if you're going to be planning on leaving on your own at 18 who do you think is going to do all those things for you so all I'm telling you is like take advantage that mommy's here for you right now and I'm able to teach you all those things and you can do it at your time I'm not telling you like at this time you have to wash the dishes so let me just help you I'm going to create a list for you and you just have to do them and you can decide if you want to wash clothes once or twice a week you can decide if you want to wash the dishes right after dinner or before you go to bed whatever you want but if you learn how to do those things you're going to see how empowered you're going to feel and the more tools we can put like the more things like the simple things like that that you can learn and that you can equip your tool box to do you're just going to be just that much like capable and and and there's nothing more fulfilling than feeling like you're able to do stuff that you're capable and then he looked at me and he's like okay mom so when we get back home you give me that list and I'm going to do it I'm like I wow I was going to say like he actually he actually receiv that I I think I have a breakthrough I think I got a breakthrough with the hormones are raging like whatever mom you know storming off like you can get you can get that reaction too that was good good job don't you think that was a good thing but but I used but you see it was a moment that I used what he said because when he thought to himself that's true how am I going to do all that stuff I said you don't want to live in like a you know a messy stinky place that is not clean like you know you want to like have you know so you need to know how to do this stuff and I think all I I see like all the things that happen in life like that like different tools we acquire you know even the job that I you know my job like all the tools that I've acquired in this job all the things that I've learned to do um that I don't know when I'm going to use I use them for my job but maybe I'm going to they going to be useful like in 20 years from my life sure but you came from very different circumstances it's the it's the Peril of success right like you and and the kid's dad like worked very hard to achieve all of these things in life and now they're reared in you know like an insane degree of privilege and it becomes more difficult to instill that kind of work ethic into somebody who you know grows up that way I think you're correct I think it becomes a lot more difficult but I think goes back to the discipline and it goes back to priorities and I think it for me it becomes about what kind of you know I I feel like I'm their Guardian because we don't possess our children right I mean we just come here they come through us but they're as much as our teachers as we are they're teachers and we're constantly learning and teaching you know in every relationship in our life and and I feel that we get this moment in time which is very short in a way that we get to influence our children because then they go I mean look at my parents they had 14 years to influence me then I was out in the world and I never went back and I keep remembering like what are all the things that if they wouldn't have taught me those things where would I be today and I'm so grateful for them for for those lessons and I feel like yes I grew up in very different circumstances than my kids and it is a bit more challenging to have them you know make their bed and wash the dishes and clean their you know when I have a person that can do it too but I make a point of me doing it so then they learn that oh Mommy's doing the dinner Mommy is making the breakfast mommy is so they're like weel you have to model and I feel like it's a different kind of modeling is it is the type of modeling that I prefer it's it's the type of modeling that I find to be the important type of modeling because that's the you know I mean what's Mo the most important thing you're going to do in your life I feel like raising children is is by far the most challenging thing I've ever done and the most uh fulfilling at the same time and you know but I feel that if if I if I don't do that if I don't equip my children to be good capable assets you know for themselves in their lives if they're not going to be then I fail I I feel yeah you haven't done your job then I haven't done my job I mean I feel that's my job I mean that's a job I do to kind of make a living so I can like you know put foot on the table and have but my real job as as I think as a as a mom and I chose to be a mom so I have to show up for my kids and I feel like this things that my you know I think is really what shaped me and what made me who I am today was definitely the upbringing that I had and and what my parents how they guided me and I feel like that's really important so I make that a priority in my life to make sure that my kids are going to have even though they don't have those same needs you know to do those things because my mom didn't have a a person she could pay to come clean the house we had to you clean the bathroom you clean the you know it was like a list all of us have to share between us who's going to do what and we grew up that way and it was kind of fun because you know I was always I always love the cleaning part you know I love organizing and cleaning I feel like a clean house is a clean mind is like a what's out is in you know if like if everything is organized outside I can think um and I tell my kids that and I feel that um if I can really get them to do those simple things in life you know and and learn those things and teach them how to be self-sufficient and capable human beings I feel like I've done my job and then I can rest and then whatever else they do the choices they make if they choose to eat the food that I fed them when they were little if now they want to go eat you know whatever or I mean it's going to be what they're going to do you know they're going to choose their friends hopefully they they choose wisely because in the end of the day they're going to be the one dealing with the consequences of their actions and I always tell them like listen you know you're going to go out there and you're going to make the Cho whatever choice you make there are going to be consequences you're dealing with those consequences me this is your life and sometimes they need to they need to make those mistakes and face those consequences like we had I mean how many mistakes that I mean I have and those those experiences are formative like I'm sure if you look in the rear view mirror and think about the panic attacks that you were having on airplanes and your inability to get into an elevator and you know this desire to jump off your balcony on some level you wouldn't wish that experience on anybody but you probably wouldn't wna change your experience either because it's set in motion this whole sensibility and way of being that you now have and I think with kids they regardless of whether they hear you in the moment or whether they go out into the world and make a bunch of mistakes like they come back yeah and whatever you taught them it's in there and at some point when they're ready or whatever like they return to it and you know and and I think to to trust that it's very important and I also feel like because if you try to overly control it you're going to drive them away absolutely and and you know I think for me I keep going back to me as a kid and the trust my parents had in me to let me go and I wouldn't be who I am today if it wasn't for them trusting in me and for all the mistakes that I've made and then had to come the other side and figure out for myself so I think it's important to give our children the Dignity of Their Own process you know because we had a dignity you know we have to go through our own process to become who we are and I think as long as they know that we are there and what what is our values you know is like those things that are important what is what is that we stand for what's important for us you know as as as as a as a value as a core value as as as a being a good human being and a good person and if you thought that your children and and they and they got it in the end of the day they're going to go out there in the world and they're going to have to make their mistakes and I I think the best thing you can do for them it's is just be there for them whenever they they come back and if they want your help you know and I think it's it's hard because you want to protect them like you can put Bobble wrap on them so like nothing will touch them and they will be safe but in the end of the day that's unrealistic and it's like it doesn't work anyway you know what I like this idea you know there's a metaphor of the butterfly imagine the caterpillar as she's transforming into becoming the butterfly she's you know eating eating all the you know until she finally starts spinning into a cocoon and and then she has to like go through that whole stous process if you ever seen like you know they turn into GP yeah but they're like but it's exactly it's just and it's really kind of like hard to like when they're coming out it's like really awkward and it looks like they're very strenuous and very difficult so if you go in there and you try to help them come out you're going to them you're going to the butterfly and she won't be able to have the strength she needs struggle is the struggle is what crucial to the the growth and you have to give them the Dignity of their own process you have to be and I and I keep reminding myself I cannot take away that opportunity for them because my parents gave me the opportunity for me to go through my own challenges and I grew and and I want my kids to have that same opportunity because whoever they're going to become is going to be based on what their choice is and hopefully I gave them enough good examples and and and good um values where they would make the choices that is right for them you know what is it that you want people to understand or take away from the new book and and how you are modeling this lifestyle um whether it's dietary changes Lifestyle Changes uh movement practices how can somebody who is interested in kind of leveling up across the board begin the process of of making those changes in their life you know it's funny you know because when I decided to do a cookbook I'm the farthest thing there is from a chef let me tell you something I I am not a chef let me just like let's be honest you've got a private Chef in home that person is taking care of everything not anymore I used to you don't anymore no I don't I don't it's no the last two years I don't you're cooking your own meals yes I'm cooking my own meals yeah I I grew up there way and I want like I told you like my priority is showing my kids what I believe it's important for them and and and I can't I can't say oh this is important and then I have and I'm not doing it you know what I mean so it has to be cohesive right and and I think that for me um really being like living what I believe is very important and I was showing my kids that this is important to me like the only way I'm going to show them that is by doing that so yes I had chefs and this is how I learn how to cook a lot of the things a lot of the recipes in the book are like inspired by the things that I created with the chefs that I throughout the years I had the opportunity to you know to really work with Incredible people incredible Chef people that love food as much as I do because I love food um but was really an idea for me to look I can say go and meditate go and exercise you know I believe meditation I believe rest I believe um exercise I believe nutrition all of those things are extremely important for you to be able to take kind of ownership of your health and really take care of yourself and have and work on just having a more clear mind and just feeling more connected to yourself I think all of those things are different aspects of it but the reason about the cookbook is quite frankly I was seeing kids were coming to our house and in play dates and and moms will come and be like how did you get my kid to eat broccoli or roasted vegetables or and it was like so simple and I was like oh maybe we can share how to make some simple recipes that are super easy you can make it like in 10 minutes and you know moms some you know you just sometimes feel overwhelmed and I know because life is busy there's so so much going on so I was like how can I help in this way and also I feel like food is a perfect time for you to practice being present and mindful because you can eat like on a rush and not being present and the food have a one effect in your body or you can do something which is what I talk about in the book is like every time I look at my food not only the act of preparing your food there so much loves and you're touching the food and you're connecting with your food that's one thing but even if you're not the one cooking your food just to take a moment to bless your food to acknowledge that that is something that is alive that you're taking it and you're that's also your source of life you know so it's kind of like connecting to the food in that way I think it it does something because everything is energy so you're having a transfer of energy with something and with the intention that you're eating it has a different I I feel huge you know when I start doing that does make a difference how he has a different just being present and being connected to what you're doing having gratitude for that moment and you get to do that three times a day you know I mean now I have a juice once a day but I still blast my juice but it's just kind of like it's just this book what I would like to to to for people to take is like it can be really simple it doesn't have to be complicated to to eat healthy and really like if you have plans you know my mom taught me you know since I was a kid like no food waste so how can we organize our meals so can there's a big thing about like reducing waste yeah there for me that's huge and also like me planning like if you're going to buy because or you know food sourcing that's huge it's not about having something with a lot of condiments and a lot of stuff it's just like keep it simple but buying really great quality products like if you can do that and then instead of like because a lot of people are like oh and then you buy organic and then you throw it out because it's like you know it spoils much faster and I'm like yeah but if you have a meal planning and I and I teach that I kind of give some suggestions in the book like my mom did that I grew up like that because she didn't have time you know she was working all the time so she had like in the fridge like what we going to have for the whole week so she would go to the groceries and she would buy and then the things were allowed to the next day so you would always know what we were eating and things that wouldn't be eaten could be easily transferred for the next day and be made into the next organiz so that nothing spoils and you're so nothing spoils and you never had food waste because you're always taking it from one day to the next so is never wasting you always	to discipline that was like my first chapter and that's what I believe you have to decide you have and then you have to have the discipline to follow through so once you realize that these choices that you are making are having a positive impact in your life you want to continue doing them you know what I mean you don't want to fall back and just something that it didn't feel good that's your past like you don't want to go back there again so you're going to stick to the plan like this is what's working and this is what made me feel good again so I'm going to stick to this and of course it's not 100% you have to be compassionate with yourself too and say you I'll be like you know life is hard as it is you need to bit yourself in the head sometimes if you go and you oh you know I had like um I was exhausted I had like a banana bread or something or I had you know but I think you realize that the choices that you're making are are really either supporting you or not you know supporting you living the life that making you feel good and living the life that you want and is taking to the direction where you want to go or not and then it's just kind of an easier choice to make right and then I feel like when I	6	4	8	to discipline that was like my first chapter and that's what I believe you have to decide you have and then you have to have the discipline to follow through so once you realize that these choices that you are making are having a positive impact in your life you want to continue doing them you know what I mean you don't want to fall back and just something that it didn't feel good that's your past like you don't want to go back there again so you're going to stick to the plan like this is what's working and this is what made me feel good again so I'm going to stick to this and of course it's not 100% you have to be compassionate with yourself too and say you I'll be like you know life is hard as it is you need to bit yourself in the head sometimes if you go and you oh you know I had like um I was exhausted I had like a banana bread or something or I had you know but I think you realize that the choices that you're making are are really either supporting you or not you know supporting you living the life that making you feel good and living the life that you want and is taking to the direction where you want to go or not and then it's just kind of an easier choice to make right and then I feel like when I	No relevant dialogue found.	8,4,6	0,0,0	8	4	6	0	0	0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjK5ahIgsHA	4,193	rjK5ahIgsHA	2024-03-25 00:00:00	the choices that you're making are really either supporting you or not straight from the pages of Victoria Secret please welcome jaelle bunin gazelle bunin gazelle has walked in nearly 500 fashion shows and great the covers of more than 1,200 different magazines on paper like you're perhaps highly unrelatable you know what it is it's a character that's the job I do to kind of make a living so I can like you know put foot on the table raising children is is by far the most challenging thing I've ever done it's a different kind of modeling is the type of modeling that I prefer food is a perfect time for you to practice being present and mindful because it can be really simple it doesn't have to be complicated to eat healthy nature is just like it's me instead of like trying to control nature we need to just like take a humble pill and and learn from the Big Mama [Music] today's episode is brought to you by the awesome organizations that make this show [Music] possible so nice to meet you nice to meet you too so excited to have you here today yes when this opportunity presented itself I was like of course I want to talk to Jazelle and then I had my own like sort of mini panic attack we're going to get into panic attacks I'm like what could I possibly talk to this person about the alltime great super model of all time everybody knows this on paper like you're perhaps highly unrelatable but then the more you dig into your story and the more I kind of learned about your Arc and your past and what brought you to this place there's so much that's deeply relatable and your kind of transformation story is remarkably similar to mine although you did yours at like 23 I was 40 um but there's so much in there so I thought it would be cool to kind of um talk a little bit about what it was like what happened and how you made these changes in your life because I think you're in this interesting new season right now where despite the fact that you've been this Wellness Advocate and wellness Warrior for a long time my sense is that there's a there's a more full Embrace of of that now with kind of how you see yourself and what's important to you a well thank you for the introduction you know the funny thing is I you know people's you know what I did for a living is something that kind of just happened to me at 14 years old you know it was it was like hey do you want to be a model and I thought oh I can help my family you know I can do make a living and and help you know I have five sisters and and all that so modeling to me is something that is um an opportunity that came along like I think in life you have these opportunities that either you take that train and then see where it goes you know and I never even believed that this was going to take me and I was going to be doing this for almost 30 years you know it's it's one of those things that I was like oh I'll start doing this job and you know send money home and help my sisters go through school and do all that and um and maybe in five years you know I'll get a house because I didn't even go to school you know I I I was emancipated at 14 yeah you were in Tokyo at 14 I was living in Japan without speaking English and J or Japanese and that's when I when I start learning the language of of of energy you know what I mean because you don't have to understand the language you just have to feel you know something there's a lot more that has been said without words you know sure so I start learning about that um but I think that I went through this journey of modeling which was something I thought was going to last five years and I was just going to help my family out for a little bit and it just kept going you know it just kept happening you know I I didn't even think you can have longevity in this career because it's not what I what I saw really around me happening um but you know I kept it kept working out so I kept doing it and it was kind of a Mindless thing you know when you got in the hamster wheel and I think we do that sometimes in life and you're so young you don't know and you Liv the fast life and all of that so in my early 20s I um developed you know anxiety and panic attacks and all that because you know when you drink a bottle of wine and that because you like I used to be a smoker so I smoke I can't even imagine I used to smoke it feels like a whole different life you know but um it was the late 90s and there was a lot of um drugs and fashion and all that so I thought I was saying just because I was like having some wine and smoking cigarettes everybody was doing way worse things than yeah I'm sure you've seen a lot I've seen a lot yeah that's a whole other show about that that's a whole other story but yeah so um you know so that was the beginning for me to start reconnecting with myself because I think when I was 14 and I got that train my only focus was like how can I be the best that I can do on this and and and that was my focus and and I didn't meure any sacrifice he was like if I had to work 360 days a year and I felt like I couldn't say no because people were giving me a chance and then I was like in this really overdrive uh and burn down my adrenals I found out later when I found this amazing natural Doctor Who told me like listen you don't have any more adrenal they're shut down because you burn them basically I'm like but I'm only 22 you know so um basically I had to change the habits that I you know smoking a pack of cigarettes drinking alcohol every day to myself down coffee all day to keep myself up and also going from you know one time zone to the next I was three days in Paris two days in London one day in New York going back to you know my life was in a living in a suitcase and of course your nervous system is going to freak out you know and the way I was eating it was very you know anything that was in front of me I was just like not mindful about anything you know I was just kind of um like a Workhorse and when that happen to me is when I you know I come from a family that is very my my grandmother had a tea for everything so we never had we were not the kind of you know you get sick let me see this herbal remedy that we you know so yeah you grew up in kind of a small village right in Brazil your grandmother was cultivating herbs and she was the person that everyone would go to for their remedy so you have this sort of background and connection you know with the Earth exactly that you know is kind of lingering in the back of your mind when you're just you know hammering nails and and you know drinking wine and living that life but you're young it's like that's kind of what your 20s are for kind of and you're you're on this like Jet Plane I mean figuratively and literally like your career's taking off on top of that a people pleasing tendency where you feel like you have to say yes to everything and you're just go go go go go yeah and and I think but that was a big wakeup call for me because I think sometimes you know you have to reach rock bottom and when I had that those anxiety and they start becoming like almost CRI because I couldn't get on planes he was just you know I was going to all these doctors and they were like you have to take this stuff and I was just afraid of taking anything because I've never taken anything you know I was a there was a t for for this there you know my grandmother wasn't there so finally you know I wasn't going to take any medication because just the idea of taking something I was like I was normal before how can I go back being what I was you know like I I I didn't have these issues so what's happening long story short I found this doctor I had to replace my habits it was that simple I had to replace these habits that had created the reality I was living at that moment which was you know um really killing me in in so many ways you know killing my spirit killing my and and I replace it with good habits so now instead of smoking cigarettes and having a mocha frappuccino in the morning I'll would go out and do breath work and go out for a run and you know I replace in one day I gave up everything because he he looked at me he said jelle he called me Adrenalina he says do you want to live and I said I do he's like so we going to CH change my diet and that's for the first time in my life that I realized that I I was really like the one who got myself there and I was the only person who could get myself out by the choices that I was making so I had to take full responsibility for what I had created but it was in my power only in my power to change that there were no doctors nobody who was going to save me I had to change um you know the choices I was making and I and I did that and it was incredible because after over a year and a half like really struggling with anxiety and panic attacks and all that within 3 months I was like I never had another incident and it was you know and and once you start meditating I mean at that point this was 20 years ago right it wasn't like people were talking about meditation and yoga any other that um it was just um you know when you sit in silence and you and you reflect which is what we don't really give ourselves time to do because the world is so fastpaced and everything is catching your attention is trying to throw you off your Center you know everything is so busy it's like an overload of information to have that space to go inside and reflect and look and really take a step back I think that was the biggest blessing of my life so really I think what could have killed me is what gave me a whole new life and it was amazing because since then like everything changed like I realized that food is my medicine I realized that I am the director of my own movie that I'm creating my reality based on the choices that I'm making but what I'm choosing to not the people I'm choosing to have around in my life but what type of energy what kind of thoughts I allow to what am I feeding you know what kind of thoughts am I so all of that so that became like a big um changing of seasons for me in my early 20s what were those first couple weeks like if you went completely cold turkey on all of these bad habits I think it was like a drug addict I never was a I guess I was a drug etic only legal drugs because I guess alcohol is a drug and so is cigarettes nicotine and all that and caffeine and all that but they're like socially accepted but I tell you that I had the worst migraine I mean I felt like the I mean maybe that's what a person who's going like you have gone to to rehab right so I'm I don't know what you felt I would love to hear but I for me it was like right I mean I don't know about that sub it's the only way I know how to do it though I don't understand how people kind of phase out of stuff like you have to for me you have to draw the line and step over it and it's going to suck and you're going to be uncomfortable for a while while um but you know that on the other side of that lies all of this opportunity and possibility um but uh and that's what happened to me I think there was that because what I knew I knew that what I was and what if you do what you've always done you're going to get what you've always gotten is that simple and what I realized at that moment that what I what I created for myself was not what I wanted I needed to a drastic change and then he was like draw the line stopped everything in one day and the migraines and all of that like the consequences of what I had done I had to deal with them you know it took me like two weeks I think I was like having the worst migraines just because I didn't know if it was the nicotine the caffeine the alcohol I don't know what it was but it was all of it together and um but then it was amazing because from that experience I I became so much stronger and I and there are lots of different things that happen in my life after that I feel like every time we get tested it's like the Super Mario you know like the little video game when you go to do the big boss like you go through all the phases and you go to level one the big boss is like one it's okay to defeat that one but then the second one is like a tough for big boss and then the third one is you know it's like it's life I feel like that's what life is you get like the new tools so you get equipped and then you go to the next challenge that is a bigger one and then is a bigger one I feel like that's why we're here you know to keep seeing how we can expand how much more we can to grow to evolve to expand to see how strong and how creative and how you know how can how much we can experience of all this wonder how did you how did you plug that into the fast-paced life of of your modeling career because it's one thing if you're living a more kind of grounded atome lifestyle where you can control your food and your environment a little bit better but when you're flying all over the world and you're on these sets and there's craft service and it's junk food like you have to be way ahead of the curve to prepare everything to have everything kind of organized for yourself because how do you you if you're in just hotels all over the place and you arrive at midnight like how are you getting your you know like how did so how did you manage all of that you have to be very discipline I think you know when I I did this book called lessons and um and it was like everything starts to discipline that was like my first chapter and that's what I believe you have to decide you have and then you have to have the discipline to follow through so once you realize that these choices that you are making are having a positive impact in your life you want to continue doing them you know what I mean you don't want to fall back and just something that it didn't feel good that's your past like you don't want to go back there again so you're going to stick to the plan like this is what's working and this is what made me feel good again so I'm going to stick to this and of course it's not 100% you have to be compassionate with yourself too and say you I'll be like you know life is hard as it is you need to bit yourself in the head sometimes if you go and you oh you know I had like um I was exhausted I had like a banana bread or something or I had you know but I think you realize that the choices that you're making are are really either supporting you or not you know supporting you living the life that making you feel good and living the life that you want and is taking to the direction where you want to go or not and then it's just kind of an easier choice to make right and then I feel like when I go to the jobs you know I got to the point in my life where people know how I eat and you know I can tell people like listen this is what I want I want you got extensive riter yeah I kind of you know because I was already working for so long so I I have you know I got to the I guess really the privilege to be able to to kind of say like this is the kind of things that I would like to eat so please at the job you know if you're working 10 12 hours in a studio can we have these things available you know what I mean so then it was easier to keep the food healthy you know um because I think that's so important and then just to say I feel like and then saying no to those things you know like coffee or alcohol or things that I was just so used to because I was still in that same environment the environment hadn't changed I had changed but all of that was around me still but then it was just a choice of saying you know I feel great and I haven't drank alcohol in over two years now too this is something you know I even when I went back drinking after it was very moderate you know I was still like like I would drink socially sometimes you know peer pressure sometimes like oh come on have a drink you know and then you like feel like especially in my world I mean everyone pretty much is like socially having a drink so I would be like okay I'll have a drink but then he got to a point that I was like and that was like 20 years later because it just happened over two years ago I was like I don't want to drink like I don't care what anyone thinks and I don't care if they have Fe peer pressure I'm going to have my Min tea my cam tea and if they want to drink I'm not making anyone feel bad about drinking they can do whatever they want this is their Temple you know this is my temple I get to choose and they shouldn't make me feel bad that I don't want to you know so um then I kind of stood up for myself I think that happens after your 40s like you care less about what other people think and um wait till you're 50 oh my God I can't wait for that I'm gonna like he's he's gonna be amazing but I think the thing you mentioned you mentioned like being directed and and and being kind of dedicated to your path and and and I feel like that's the underappreciated aspect of of understanding you and your career a lot of people arrive in New York City every single day with a similar dream or ambition that you had when you were a young person and you arrived there and a lot of those people are very beautiful you're beautiful but that doesn't tell the story of how you translated like an opportunity into the career that you had and I think between the lines there is an intense work ethic and a very intentional approach to what you were doing like how did you apply those skills like what is the differentiator between you and the career that you've enjoyed versus you know the other beautiful people who aren't enjoying the same kind of career you can't and you're not allowed to say luck or you're you know no I don't believe I don't believe in luck I don't believe in luck I believe in hard work and but I believe in um I mean I think discipline but I also believe that I always treated everyone the way I like to be treated and I've always was appreciative I have this immense sense of gratitude for just being there so even though you know people were like oh you know you you know when I was 19 I was like I want the model of you know the model of the year and everybody's like how does it feel to be it didn't really it doesn't matter to me because quite frankly I never saw myself as a motel it's just not something I didn't drink the Kool-Aid I didn't believe because I was a model or because I I became successful in this job like I was better than anybody I just and I didn't believe that I believe that I just got to learn that craft really well and I understood what the job entail and like I learned how to do the job really well but by no means is what defined me it's just something I did it's not it's not who I am I don't know if you know it's like I go there I had this opportunity at you know 13 14 years old when I finally left home and and and and St pursued this career that really I thought it was just really I did it for the money I did it because I was like what else am I going to do at 14 years old that I can help my family you know I don't have any other jobs that are offering me an opportunity so I'll take this one so for me it was really like a job so I never like it didn't kind of Define me I kind of did it my way like I never became like you know it was like oh it needs to be glamorous I was never glamorous I'm a jeans and t-shirt type of girl like I if I needed to go to parties or hang out with this type of people I never did any of that like I went there I did my job I did the best that I could I never was late in my life for my jobs like never showed up like late I was there before everyone I was there 100% you know I I I just wanted to make sure that if people were booking me and they they were trusting in me that I was going to show up and deliver you know and I think that's kind of what it was I did it my way you know and it didn't broke me kind of Cu I saw you know people in this business you know you can lose yourself because if you drink the Kool-Aid if you start thinking you know like you lose yourself in it I never lost myself it was just a job and it's still just a job I can't even believe I'm still doing it sometimes I go in and I do it you it's not it's not what I do full- time anymore but it's just one of those things that you know I got to do this I got to make a career out of it and got to make a great living and help my family and I I have wonderful you know I got to travel the world and learn different languages and and and all of that and that's how I see it I don't see it as a you know I don't see myself you're not defined by it you're not you're not caught up in in the kind of dark underbelly of that very strange world this whole world is like almost like a parallel reality for me you know what I mean if something is like a switch on button I go there I do my job I take my picture I turn it off I go home and I have the same friends I have my my family I'm very close with my family but I think you're very good at seeing opportunities when they arise and you tell a little story in in in the new book about being 14 and on route to Tokyo and your parents gave you your dad gave you a little bit of money that was intended for getting a cab from that's the first day arve in s Paulo and instead of using that money oh it was you were super young right so you had a little bit of money to take a tab and you had the presence of mind to say this money would be better spent buying some clothes so I can do better in my auditions or whatnot um which isn't like that's not normal like that's somebody who's thinking ahead who's planning long term who's understanding that they have an opportunity in front of them and trying to figure out how to make the most out of it with limited resources and I think that speaks to or says a lot about your sensibility or your perspective as a business person yeah I mean it's so interesting to see it that way I mean I for me at that moment in time you know I I I just felt like I did something else than that you know that was one of the things and now that you're saying that I actually did that throughout because I bought my first apartment when I was 19 years old and when everybody was buying you know designer bags all the models and you know like remember I didn't know I was going to last in this business I thought like I didn't go to school I didn't go to high school I didn't you know I I left I I went to work and whenever I go I go back I thought I was going to be a farmer or something because I just always love the land and but I I didn't think like you know like where am I going to go from here so I have to make sure that I have at least a place to live I'm a cancer so I want to have like a stable home and when I was 19 you know people start flying me first class because I was like the model of the year right saw all the clients now are paying me first class I was exchanging those tickets for Coach classes because I was every two three days in a different country and instead of paying um my you know a rent in an apartment I pay I put down a down payment for an apartment and then I was paying my mortgage instead of paying rent and you're 19 and I was 19 so I I own my first apartment as 19 years old it was like a in in New York City it was like facing a wall of another building mind you he was like a very apartment you know that does require some maturity and some long-term thinking well well because I just thought to myself like you know I don't know how long I'm going to stay here you know I i' I at least I have to have a place to live if I like I'm not going to live empty-handed you know what I mean like what do I care about a bag or like what is that going to give me it's not going to be a roof over my head I need to make sure that I have that I can spend in the right places but I think that sense came from my mother because we grew up you know my mother was a cashier in the bank my father had like lots of different jobs like he had a real estate job but he was you know my mom they literally we we were like really simple people and grew up in two bedrooms with six girls and and and money was all always tight so I learned how to is the same thing in the book is like how do you prepare how do you not waste food I mean everything is like I think in my life I was kind of like raised that way you know what I mean kind of plan ahead like for tomorrow so you make sure that you have like food for everyone like like we're going to reuse the meat we cook on the barbecue and we're going to put it in the rice we're going to have carera so we're going to have an abundant meal because we have the rest of the you know what I mean it's kind of like that it's like you put money in the bank so when you retire you have something to to live off when you can no longer work the same thing I feel about food like you eat the right food so when you're older you you're able to have the energy and your body is functioning because you made the right choices so for me it's the same thing you know it's kind of making like just being kind of what is necessary here like do I really need this what do I need more do I need a roof over my head or do I need this this bags and this stuff do I need to take a taxi when I arrive to the model apartment when I'm 14 even though I never been to the city or can I take the subway and save the money so I can get the clothes for the casting and maybe I can get a job it's like it's kind of thinking like with the resources that I have right now what is the smartest how is the smartest way to use them I guess if you're like me never without a water bottle let's get it right people allow me to rock your world with my new favorite toy that's actually not a toy at all it's a non-negotiable essential camel backs Podium steel 100% % leak proof water bottle emphasis on leak proof for all you Gearheads this is built for the bike but honestly this simple but elegant stainless steel Contraption is built for anything and everything it keeps whatever you put in it cold for hours and straight up goes everywhere I do for all you weight weenies out there Campell back actually also offers an ultra lightweight titanium version very beautiful shall we level up yes we shall because right now Campell back is offering an exclusive discount just for you all my people so stop what you're doing and type up Campell back.com sign up with your email and use my code Rich Roll for 20% off your entire purchase at checkout or you can click the link in the description [Music] below there feels like a distinction a difference between jizelle bunin and the things that you care about being this sort of homebody family person holistic lifestyle like all of this stuff and then you know Gizelle the the runway you know on the runway like it's almost an alter ego it might be an alter ego he said but it's you know what it is it's a character I always call call it her because I think being a MTO what I understood as being a motto is to play a character in a silent movie you know you get to experience all these different charact all these different aspects of of of being a woman let's say because one designer wants you to be more androgynous you know one designer was you know I remember diding a Balin Saga campaign I was like they made me a boy I was like literally like a week I was like a man a boy and in one I was like the sexy Versace campaign like you know like with big hair and like you know pushup bra you know so it was kind of like I got to play from the the androgynous girl to the very sexy to the tomb boy like I got to you know I mean you should see I don't know if you ever saw my book the other one that was like the 20 years I did a 20 well I watched the video that you did where you kind of went through it and you were talking about what was going on with you with each of those photographs yeah so it's it's it's it's really about kind of playing these different roles but it's just instead of you talking like you would be in a movie you're just you got to make the image that picture that one capture image to to it's a performance art it's a performance art but it's such a weird world I know that like Alexander McQueen he was like he was really the Catalyst right he was the guy who gave me the chance you know he gave me the the chance but when you watch his shows or some of these other shows like the designs are are stunning and gorgeous but they're also totally inaccessible it's like who wears this does anybody is there anybody in the world that even wear I mean if you're Lady Gaga I guess or somebody like that but like yeah it's a fantasy and so it's curious like how does that translate into I guess it's just how you feel and how you think about a particular designer or a brand and not so much about directly selling those designs to the person who's going to the department store or the boutique right yeah they're not thinking I don't even understand the business model of the whole thing yeah I me neither to be honest with you but I think it's a really I mean I think it has changed a lot uh since I started like I see a big shift because I think before there was a lot more creativity there was allowed a lot more creativity I think you know McQueen or JN galano you know the shows and stuff like you were like in a world like sure and the photographers being rock stars themselves oh yeah and and it was a I think it was a moment in time where there was so much less about selling but it was much more about the the inspiration and the aspir aspiring you know the aspiration of creating like a fantasy and like a and it was a lot of fun then I have to say at that time because I would have been dead I wouldn't have survived it I would have gone all in I would have been at every after hours party it would have been a disaster you see I was in bed like studying my astrology books like by 10 you know that was me I was like by 10 I was like oh no I have to go I was like I have to start early so I can go to bed early so for me it was a a different thing but um you know but I guess for me I also fell very responsible because I didn't want to one of the The Guiding lights for me I really believe was my parents because I saw how hard they work and I didn't want to disappoint them so I think part of like me being so stay on the line was like I'm not disappointing my parents I don't care if they're not here they are going to know what I'm doing like I remember part of the reason why I got so freaked out about the McQueen show and they sent me out like without a top because I couldn't speak English and they didn't even do a feeding anyway so then I was I was like oh my God if my parents see this they're GNA make me go back home and then I you know what is it like when you go internet but there was no internet in 1997 19 it wasn't so thank God because they didn't even saw that otherwi they would have been like what what are you doing I be like I don't know and you have five siblings right I have five sisters I'm a middle child I have two older sisters and two younger sisters and I'm a twin MH in the middle so we like the the sandwich like the cheese in the sandwich being Brazilian uh you're connected to the Amazon and to climate change issues and you've done a lot in terms of your environmental advocacy and clean water initiatives talk a little bit about how that began and and what that looked like now you know I um I've always been a big um basically like a child of nature I always tell my children when they ask you know what's your religion they say Mom we don't go to church I say you know what you're in church every day I say I say what do I say when people ask what my what my religion is I say love is your religion and nature is your church that's your Cathedral that's the big church that's our Temple you know so you honor your temple you love your temple you CU that's the only reason why we are all alive because this whole ecosystem is making it possible you know to grow our food to give us to provide us with all the things we need to survive so U and that's how I grew up I felt that way and especially having a grandmother that everything was from the earth you know she grew everything she ate and and uh you know the Earth was giving us the herbs that we needed to like when we fell ill and and I grew up in that way so when you grew up in that way and you grew up running around bare feet you know I come from a small village and anytime you want to eat something you grab there was like a tangerine tree or like a orange tree or is a plum tree and you just go and pick up the fruit from the tree we never bought fruits from the supermarket you know you go either you had it in your backyard or your neighbor had it or the other neighbor you know somebody had the fruit he wanted to eat you just go grab it so I think when you leave with that connection to Nature you have a different appreciation it's like so I feel like nature is just like it's it's it's me like I think we are n you know we are that and I think this connection from nature for me is not something it's just something I've always known you know is how I grew up and so for me um taking care of which I love which is nature is natural um so the but the first time I realized there was really problems happening is when I went to actually spend some time uh with the indigenous people in shingu area of the Amazon in the 2004 and that's when the first time I realized you know pesticide what's what pesticides were doing where mining was doing how they were contaminating the rivers and basically all the indigenous tribes they were living and depending on the that water they were getting sick and even though they were living very wholesomely you know with nature and you know by the impact that the big farms and different Mining and all that stuff was having um was really um having a really terrible impact in their in their their livelihoods and and that's when the first time I was like I need to do something about it and that's when I started like I had a flipflop line at the time in Brazil and we gave a percentage you know to that's actually a funny story the the the indigenous people and I was like I wonder what they would do with this with this funds but it was like a group that helped indigenous in Brazil and the funny enough when I did when I turned 40 this was in 2004 so I was like 24 cut to when I'm 40 2020 I was 40 um I wanted to do something for my 40th birthday and I was like oh I want to plant some trees in the in in the Amazon and how we going to do it so we looked around for who can help us do that and we contacted the the people that are working with the indigenous people that we knew in in Brazil and they're like we have the largest seed bank in the Amazon and we started with the money with the whole program that you gave in 2004 that money that was for the sale of the flipflops now years later they had the largest seed bank of you know the indigenous they they they collected the larger seed bank and this is how with that whole group of people we basically planted over 300,000 trees in that area of the Amazon so that was like years later so that's just how funny how life goes but for me because I was so connected to nature and I always wanted to help and my dad always said you know water is the most important thing and of course I saw that with the indigenous people because that's how they were all getting sick because all the the you know residue of Mining and and and pesticides were going into their water in my little village we were having a lot of problems with agriculture as well where there was a lot of runoffs from Roundup and all the stuff that they use in agriculture all the pesticides and stuff and it was getting a lot of people sick so we actually did the AGA limpa program in 200 I think it was 20 the N or I don't remember when we started but it was like a long time ago and I funded it and my dad who's also a sociologist worked with the university and we and we basically regenerated the whole area of the river that was kind of you know getting the water to the city and we were able to clean it it took us like a few years to do it you know it was pretty simple because all we had to do I mean it was not simple my dad is the one who did the work it was simpler for me I just kind of funded it but he was there every day he had to work with I don't know how many farmers you had to take their pie of land and kind of grow the native species Forest you know the native Forest back so then the there's a buffer there was a buffer and then the root systems could could filtrate it before all that stuff would go into the river and then that was the agal limpa project and that was one of the projects we did to clean the water and anyway so there's lots of different things but in overall thing my my thing is you know we got to take care of Mother Earth she takes care of us you know when people say to me oh we're going to save the planet I say you're that's such an ego thing you know as humans we think we're going to save anything the planets is in her own process of evolution this is a you know it's I mean dinosaurs were here before us and you know lur I mean so many different civilizations the planet will be fine that's what I always say I say please don't fool yourself I think we really saving ourselves we need to yeah I say there's no Sav we need re ourselves back yeah this is really about us protecting the resources and and taking care of what we really need for our survival because once we are gone the planet is going to regenerate I mean I've seen this over and over again the planet regenerates itself so quickly you know because it's it's just a very intelligent we need to learn from nature instead of like trying to control nature we need to just like take a humble pill and and learn from the Big Mama we've moved so far away from that and we do live in this dualistic mindset where we think there's you know our environments and then there's nature or there's us and that's outside um but really understanding that you're never out of nature as you as you said um I think it's the first point of trying to really deepen your relationship with the world in which you live we all live and share and I think when it comes to the Amazon like we all hear about deforestation and all the you know clearing that's going on for cattle grazing and the strip mining and all the stuff that you mentioned but it's an abstraction especially for you know people in North America like we know what's going on we know it's bad but I've never visited there like I've never seen it myself and you being Brazilian gives you kind of a deeper appreciation and understanding of the extent of it you know I think it's how people tell the story because I think it's a lot deeper than you know I think people like depending on the industry that wants to benefit from something that tell the story and they say okay this is what we're going to do is about the cing oh yeah it's so crazy a lot of NOS go in there and they say we're going to have an NGO because we're going to like protect Amazon but they're meantime they're the owners of the bigger paper company that comes from the Amazon they are just not you know what I mean so there it's not not all is as it seems no it's it's a very it's a wild wild west there and one of the biggest you know I've been there a few times and also done a lot of um just kind of like talking to people and understanding what happens there and a lot of the you know there's ancient Woods there and a lot of that goes to Europe so like what a lot of the the cattle for example is what they use to kind of occupy the land but what they're really after which is really valuable there is like gold and Min m you know the the rare medals the rare medals yeah the rare medals and the gold and all that stuff that's in there that's what interest this like you know the different um countries let's say they are not brail when they and because it's so corrupt unfortunately you know Brazil is very corrupt the politicians are very corrupt what happens is they sell those rights to those countries and then we have what we have and then the cattle like in the end they just kind of put them there because they have to occupy the land after they REM because they have to enter if you go there after they removed everything because they have to remove the value the value then they then they put all the cows there that's what they do so they remove the ancient wood they they remove the precious metals and and but they have to get there because if you fly over it it mean you're flying for hours over just a Green carpet so for you to have access to that you have to you can't just like clear cut because it grows so what they do to keep the the the forest from growing they just throw because it's very fertile the soil as soon as you cut because imagine that soil is been there like receiving all those back healthy bacteria from the leaves falling super fertile So within like three days you can Grass Grows Right and then in order for the trees not to keep growing because if you just leave abandon that's what's going to happen the birds are going to carry the seeds they're going to drop the seeds they're going to things are going to start growing again and then they won't have access you know so they kind of it's just like a cycle like but what is really after what they're really after it is the big stuff is the is the and and it's not unfortunately you know it's h it's so sad you know is greed mhm in the end of the day is greed and is greed by people that you know they don't have those natural resources where they are and and they understand the situation in Brazil and how corrupt the this the the system is you know with the politicians and they come and they they just buy those right they exploited they exploited in in every way but and and in the end of the day it's um I think greed is the biggest dis disease of of our time you're not going to get an argument from me on that over the last decade of Hosting this podcast my mission has been to engage in what I consider to be critically important conversations about the things that matter most in life things like Health relationships growth purpose and service while I'm immensely grateful for the growth of this show I've also come to realize that my voice alone is not enough this mission is not and cannot be a solitary Endeavor so I wanted to find a way to help amplify other meaningful voices and the result is voicing change media this beautiful Consortium of thinkers of storytellers artists and Visionaries all committed to fostering meaningful exchanges intentionally curated for those committed to the path of self-discovery this 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their best interest from a wellness perspective I think the number one thing I feel is like monkey see monkey does right I think you have to be the example you have to leave it um cuz I think whatever you say is one thing and whatever you do you they need to kind they need to whatever you say whatever you do they have to be the same thing right sympatico yeah they have to be sympatico and um and that's what it is and and I think for the kids for my kids were were a lot easier because I was home a lot with them so I was you know taking them to school every day making their breakfast you know just having my Gardens at home growing the food so when the kids would come for play dates at the house you know my kids were grabbing like everything raw cucumbers carrots like green beans they were just grabbing it from the garden and like collecting things and putting in the basket it was like a game for them and it was like oh friends are coming over why are we going to grab for the for to Door picnic outside and then so they grew up in that way you know they they uh so it was easier for me to feed them healthier food and and and and explain to them you know we always compost it we had bees at our house um so you know they they were learning about you know when The Beekeeper would come and they explain you know how much be how much honey can you take and how much money how much honey do you leave for the bees and how does a the how does a queen bee work and all the so they were they're emotionally connected they were emotionally connected they were part of that like I was as a kid so um so for them is really natural and they were also homeschooled for the last three years um during the you know the whole pandemic thing I and we moved from Boston to Tampa so um it was a whole new world for them so I I homeschooled them and now they just went back to school but I have to tell you I see a huge difference especially because my son is 14 now so he wants to kind of push back this is what I'm getting at oh yeah well how old kid well they range from 28 to 16 and each one of there's four and each of them is different um but it's a delicate dance because you know we raised our kids similarly um but they reach a certain age and part of individuation and maturing is taking ownership for your own choices and understanding what you stand for and what you don't and in order to really Define that and hone that you have to go out and kind of push the envelope and try new things otherwise it's just something you're doing because that's the way you were raised and that's what your parents told you as opposed to really owning it for yourself and so so we have learned that you have to have the brains very loose and and let them go out and do what they want to do and control the environment at home but be you know very kind of nonplused if they go and make a choice that you wouldn't make or whatever and just be curious about it and allow them the space to do that and you know you hope they come back and you know do it the way you taught them to um and sometimes they do and sometimes they don't and again every one of them is different in our case but as they get to a certain point and especially you know when they're with peers and friends and they're in social situations those things they have to learn for themselves and you have to allow them to I think it's so interesting so you have to let go a little bit oh let go and let God yeah I tell myself that is like a mantra you know and and and I I I remind myself of like my mom let me leave home she emancipated me and I was leing in Japan at 14 and there was no cell phones like I call you know can you imagine doing that for one of your children right now no and actually you know what it's so funny because I was having a conversation with my son about that he um he was complaining you know I have chores in my house you know kids have to do their chores so set the table wash the dishes you know now I make a point you know I cook at you know they come from school I'm cooking you know they so one has to set the table whoever sets the table the other has to wash the dishes and there is like you have to clean your room you have to do the basic stuff you know my daughter is doing amazingly she loves it and she's like really good and very proud of herself mom look how good I cleaned the dishes like she's really good and she's washing herself she's not putting it in the machine she wants to learn how to really wash it and and and do it right and she's very focused on it my son is like always like why do I have to do this you know so actually we had like a breakthrough this Christmas this this whole holiday season because I said he says to me I'm going to leave home when I'm 18 mom and I don't know if I'm going to go to college you didn't go to college you didn't go to school I'm going to just leave home when I'm 18 and I'm going to do this and I'm going to do that I'm like okay that's great so you're going to leave in your own apartment and who's going to cook for you and who's going to wash your dishes and who's going to clean your clothes who's going to do that and he's like for a second he's like because you're not going to have a chef and like a you know like and he was thinking for a second and I say well this is why when mommy tells you to do those things at home you know is because I want to give you more tools for your tool boox because when you learn how to do those things and they become second nature to you then you don't even have to think about it you become empowered to do it for yourself you don't depend on anybody and that's nothing it's amazing to be able to do that I said you know what made me feel so like strong and capable when I left my home because my mom taught me how to do those things so when I left home and I was leaving by myself at 14 years old I was first at 13 at 14 I moved to Japan but because I was leaving in the mod's apartment I was the only person there who knew how to clean cook iron do absolutely everything in the house because my mom taught me and it was easy for me I didn't think it was a struggle I was happy to do it and I was happy to to do it for the other girls that didn't know how to do it but if you're going to be planning on leaving on your own at 18 who do you think is going to do all those things for you so all I'm telling you is like take advantage that mommy's here for you right now and I'm able to teach you all those things and you can do it at your time I'm not telling you like at this time you have to wash the dishes so let me just help you I'm going to create a list for you and you just have to do them and you can decide if you want to wash clothes once or twice a week you can decide if you want to wash the dishes right after dinner or before you go to bed whatever you want but if you learn how to do those things you're going to see how empowered you're going to feel and the more tools we can put like the more things like the simple things like that that you can learn and that you can equip your tool box to do you're just going to be just that much like capable and and and there's nothing more fulfilling than feeling like you're able to do stuff that you're capable and then he looked at me and he's like okay mom so when we get back home you give me that list and I'm going to do it I'm like I wow I was going to say like he actually he actually receiv that I I think I have a breakthrough I think I got a breakthrough with the hormones are raging like whatever mom you know storming off like you can get you can get that reaction too that was good good job don't you think that was a good thing but but I used but you see it was a moment that I used what he said because when he thought to himself that's true how am I going to do all that stuff I said you don't want to live in like a you know a messy stinky place that is not clean like you know you want to like have you know so you need to know how to do this stuff and I think all I I see like all the things that happen in life like that like different tools we acquire you know even the job that I you know my job like all the tools that I've acquired in this job all the things that I've learned to do um that I don't know when I'm going to use I use them for my job but maybe I'm going to they going to be useful like in 20 years from my life sure but you came from very different circumstances it's the it's the Peril of success right like you and and the kid's dad like worked very hard to achieve all of these things in life and now they're reared in you know like an insane degree of privilege and it becomes more difficult to instill that kind of work ethic into somebody who you know grows up that way I think you're correct I think it becomes a lot more difficult but I think goes back to the discipline and it goes back to priorities and I think it for me it becomes about what kind of you know I I feel like I'm their Guardian because we don't possess our children right I mean we just come here they come through us but they're as much as our teachers as we are they're teachers and we're constantly learning and teaching you know in every relationship in our life and and I feel that we get this moment in time which is very short in a way that we get to influence our children because then they go I mean look at my parents they had 14 years to influence me then I was out in the world and I never went back and I keep remembering like what are all the things that if they wouldn't have taught me those things where would I be today and I'm so grateful for them for for those lessons and I feel like yes I grew up in very different circumstances than my kids and it is a bit more challenging to have them you know make their bed and wash the dishes and clean their you know when I have a person that can do it too but I make a point of me doing it so then they learn that oh Mommy's doing the dinner Mommy is making the breakfast mommy is so they're like weel you have to model and I feel like it's a different kind of modeling is it is the type of modeling that I prefer it's it's the type of modeling that I find to be the important type of modeling because that's the you know I mean what's Mo the most important thing you're going to do in your life I feel like raising children is is by far the most challenging thing I've ever done and the most uh fulfilling at the same time and you know but I feel that if if I if I don't do that if I don't equip my children to be good capable assets you know for themselves in their lives if they're not going to be then I fail I I feel yeah you haven't done your job then I haven't done my job I mean I feel that's my job I mean that's a job I do to kind of make a living so I can like you know put foot on the table and have but my real job as as I think as a as a mom and I chose to be a mom so I have to show up for my kids and I feel like this things that my you know I think is really what shaped me and what made me who I am today was definitely the upbringing that I had and and what my parents how they guided me and I feel like that's really important so I make that a priority in my life to make sure that my kids are going to have even though they don't have those same needs you know to do those things because my mom didn't have a a person she could pay to come clean the house we had to you clean the bathroom you clean the you know it was like a list all of us have to share between us who's going to do what and we grew up that way and it was kind of fun because you know I was always I always love the cleaning part you know I love organizing and cleaning I feel like a clean house is a clean mind is like a what's out is in you know if like if everything is organized outside I can think um and I tell my kids that and I feel that um if I can really get them to do those simple things in life you know and and learn those things and teach them how to be self-sufficient and capable human beings I feel like I've done my job and then I can rest and then whatever else they do the choices they make if they choose to eat the food that I fed them when they were little if now they want to go eat you know whatever or I mean it's going to be what they're going to do you know they're going to choose their friends hopefully they they choose wisely because in the end of the day they're going to be the one dealing with the consequences of their actions and I always tell them like listen you know you're going to go out there and you're going to make the Cho whatever choice you make there are going to be consequences you're dealing with those consequences me this is your life and sometimes they need to they need to make those mistakes and face those consequences like we had I mean how many mistakes that I mean I have and those those experiences are formative like I'm sure if you look in the rear view mirror and think about the panic attacks that you were having on airplanes and your inability to get into an elevator and you know this desire to jump off your balcony on some level you wouldn't wish that experience on anybody but you probably wouldn't wna change your experience either because it's set in motion this whole sensibility and way of being that you now have and I think with kids they regardless of whether they hear you in the moment or whether they go out into the world and make a bunch of mistakes like they come back yeah and whatever you taught them it's in there and at some point when they're ready or whatever like they return to it and you know and and I think to to trust that it's very important and I also feel like because if you try to overly control it you're going to drive them away absolutely and and you know I think for me I keep going back to me as a kid and the trust my parents had in me to let me go and I wouldn't be who I am today if it wasn't for them trusting in me and for all the mistakes that I've made and then had to come the other side and figure out for myself so I think it's important to give our children the Dignity of Their Own process you know because we had a dignity you know we have to go through our own process to become who we are and I think as long as they know that we are there and what what is our values you know is like those things that are important what is what is that we stand for what's important for us you know as as as as a as a value as a core value as as as a being a good human being and a good person and if you thought that your children and and they and they got it in the end of the day they're going to go out there in the world and they're going to have to make their mistakes and I I think the best thing you can do for them it's is just be there for them whenever they they come back and if they want your help you know and I think it's it's hard because you want to protect them like you can put Bobble wrap on them so like nothing will touch them and they will be safe but in the end of the day that's unrealistic and it's like it doesn't work anyway you know what I like this idea you know there's a metaphor of the butterfly imagine the caterpillar as she's transforming into becoming the butterfly she's you know eating eating all the you know until she finally starts spinning into a cocoon and and then she has to like go through that whole stous process if you ever seen like you know they turn into GP yeah but they're like but it's exactly it's just and it's really kind of like hard to like when they're coming out it's like really awkward and it looks like they're very strenuous and very difficult so if you go in there and you try to help them come out you're going to them you're going to the butterfly and she won't be able to have the strength she needs struggle is the struggle is what crucial to the the growth and you have to give them the Dignity of their own process you have to be and I and I keep reminding myself I cannot take away that opportunity for them because my parents gave me the opportunity for me to go through my own challenges and I grew and and I want my kids to have that same opportunity because whoever they're going to become is going to be based on what their choice is and hopefully I gave them enough good examples and and and good um values where they would make the choices that is right for them you know what is it that you want people to understand or take away from the new book and and how you are modeling this lifestyle um whether it's dietary changes Lifestyle Changes uh movement practices how can somebody who is interested in kind of leveling up across the board begin the process of of making those changes in their life you know it's funny you know because when I decided to do a cookbook I'm the farthest thing there is from a chef let me tell you something I I am not a chef let me just like let's be honest you've got a private Chef in home that person is taking care of everything not anymore I used to you don't anymore no I don't I don't it's no the last two years I don't you're cooking your own meals yes I'm cooking my own meals yeah I I grew up there way and I want like I told you like my priority is showing my kids what I believe it's important for them and and and I can't I can't say oh this is important and then I have and I'm not doing it you know what I mean so it has to be cohesive right and and I think that for me um really being like living what I believe is very important and I was showing my kids that this is important to me like the only way I'm going to show them that is by doing that so yes I had chefs and this is how I learn how to cook a lot of the things a lot of the recipes in the book are like inspired by the things that I created with the chefs that I throughout the years I had the opportunity to you know to really work with Incredible people incredible Chef people that love food as much as I do because I love food um but was really an idea for me to look I can say go and meditate go and exercise you know I believe meditation I believe rest I believe um exercise I believe nutrition all of those things are extremely important for you to be able to take kind of ownership of your health and really take care of yourself and have and work on just having a more clear mind and just feeling more connected to yourself I think all of those things are different aspects of it but the reason about the cookbook is quite frankly I was seeing kids were coming to our house and in play dates and and moms will come and be like how did you get my kid to eat broccoli or roasted vegetables or and it was like so simple and I was like oh maybe we can share how to make some simple recipes that are super easy you can make it like in 10 minutes and you know moms some you know you just sometimes feel overwhelmed and I know because life is busy there's so so much going on so I was like how can I help in this way and also I feel like food is a perfect time for you to practice being present and mindful because you can eat like on a rush and not being present and the food have a one effect in your body or you can do something which is what I talk about in the book is like every time I look at my food not only the act of preparing your food there so much loves and you're touching the food and you're connecting with your food that's one thing but even if you're not the one cooking your food just to take a moment to bless your food to acknowledge that that is something that is alive that you're taking it and you're that's also your source of life you know so it's kind of like connecting to the food in that way I think it it does something because everything is energy so you're having a transfer of energy with something and with the intention that you're eating it has a different I I feel huge you know when I start doing that does make a difference how he has a different just being present and being connected to what you're doing having gratitude for that moment and you get to do that three times a day you know I mean now I have a juice once a day but I still blast my juice but it's just kind of like it's just this book what I would like to to to for people to take is like it can be really simple it doesn't have to be complicated to to eat healthy and really like if you have plans you know my mom taught me you know since I was a kid like no food waste so how can we organize our meals so can there's a big thing about like reducing waste yeah there for me that's huge and also like me planning like if you're going to buy because or you know food sourcing that's huge it's not about having something with a lot of condiments and a lot of stuff it's just like keep it simple but buying really great quality products like if you can do that and then instead of like because a lot of people are like oh and then you buy organic and then you throw it out because it's like you know it spoils much faster and I'm like yeah but if you have a meal planning and I and I teach that I kind of give some suggestions in the book like my mom did that I grew up like that because she didn't have time you know she was working all the time so she had like in the fridge like what we going to have for the whole week so she would go to the groceries and she would buy and then the things were allowed to the next day so you would always know what we were eating and things that wouldn't be eaten could be easily transferred for the next day and be made into the next organiz so that nothing spoils and you're so nothing spoils and you never had food waste because you're always taking it from one day to the next so is never wasting you always	come on have a drink you know and then you like feel like especially in my world I mean everyone pretty much is like socially having a drink so I would be like okay I'll have a drink but then he got to a point that I was like and that was like 20 years later because it just happened over two years ago I was like I don't want to drink like I don't care what anyone thinks and I don't care if they have Fe peer pressure I'm going to have my Min tea my cam tea and if they want to drink I'm not making anyone feel bad about drinking they can do whatever they want this is their Temple you know this is my temple I get to choose and they shouldn't make me feel bad that I don't want to you know so um then I kind of stood up for myself I think that happens after your 40s like you care less about what other people think and um wait till you're 50 oh my God I can't wait for that I'm gonna like he's he's gonna be amazing but I think the thing you mentioned you mentioned like being directed and and and being kind of dedicated to your path and and and I feel like that's the underappreciated aspect of of understanding you and your career a lot of people arrive in New York City every single day with a similar dream	8	6	8	come on have a drink you know and then you like feel like especially in my world I mean everyone pretty much is like socially having a drink so I would be like okay I'll have a drink but then he got to a point that I was like and that was like 20 years later because it just happened over two years ago I was like I don't want to drink like I don't care what anyone thinks and I don't care if they have Fe peer pressure I'm going to have my Min tea my cam tea and if they want to drink I'm not making anyone feel bad about drinking they can do whatever they want this is their Temple you know this is my temple I get to choose and they shouldn't make me feel bad that I don't want to you know	you mentioned like being directed and and and being kind of dedicated to your path	8,6,9	2,1,5	8	6	9	2	1	5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjK5ahIgsHA	4,193	rjK5ahIgsHA	2024-03-25 00:00:00	the choices that you're making are really either supporting you or not straight from the pages of Victoria Secret please welcome jaelle bunin gazelle bunin gazelle has walked in nearly 500 fashion shows and great the covers of more than 1,200 different magazines on paper like you're perhaps highly unrelatable you know what it is it's a character that's the job I do to kind of make a living so I can like you know put foot on the table raising children is is by far the most challenging thing I've ever done it's a different kind of modeling is the type of modeling that I prefer food is a perfect time for you to practice being present and mindful because it can be really simple it doesn't have to be complicated to eat healthy nature is just like it's me instead of like trying to control nature we need to just like take a humble pill and and learn from the Big Mama [Music] today's episode is brought to you by the awesome organizations that make this show [Music] possible so nice to meet you nice to meet you too so excited to have you here today yes when this opportunity presented itself I was like of course I want to talk to Jazelle and then I had my own like sort of mini panic attack we're going to get into panic attacks I'm like what could I possibly talk to this person about the alltime great super model of all time everybody knows this on paper like you're perhaps highly unrelatable but then the more you dig into your story and the more I kind of learned about your Arc and your past and what brought you to this place there's so much that's deeply relatable and your kind of transformation story is remarkably similar to mine although you did yours at like 23 I was 40 um but there's so much in there so I thought it would be cool to kind of um talk a little bit about what it was like what happened and how you made these changes in your life because I think you're in this interesting new season right now where despite the fact that you've been this Wellness Advocate and wellness Warrior for a long time my sense is that there's a there's a more full Embrace of of that now with kind of how you see yourself and what's important to you a well thank you for the introduction you know the funny thing is I you know people's you know what I did for a living is something that kind of just happened to me at 14 years old you know it was it was like hey do you want to be a model and I thought oh I can help my family you know I can do make a living and and help you know I have five sisters and and all that so modeling to me is something that is um an opportunity that came along like I think in life you have these opportunities that either you take that train and then see where it goes you know and I never even believed that this was going to take me and I was going to be doing this for almost 30 years you know it's it's one of those things that I was like oh I'll start doing this job and you know send money home and help my sisters go through school and do all that and um and maybe in five years you know I'll get a house because I didn't even go to school you know I I I was emancipated at 14 yeah you were in Tokyo at 14 I was living in Japan without speaking English and J or Japanese and that's when I when I start learning the language of of of energy you know what I mean because you don't have to understand the language you just have to feel you know something there's a lot more that has been said without words you know sure so I start learning about that um but I think that I went through this journey of modeling which was something I thought was going to last five years and I was just going to help my family out for a little bit and it just kept going you know it just kept happening you know I I didn't even think you can have longevity in this career because it's not what I what I saw really around me happening um but you know I kept it kept working out so I kept doing it and it was kind of a Mindless thing you know when you got in the hamster wheel and I think we do that sometimes in life and you're so young you don't know and you Liv the fast life and all of that so in my early 20s I um developed you know anxiety and panic attacks and all that because you know when you drink a bottle of wine and that because you like I used to be a smoker so I smoke I can't even imagine I used to smoke it feels like a whole different life you know but um it was the late 90s and there was a lot of um drugs and fashion and all that so I thought I was saying just because I was like having some wine and smoking cigarettes everybody was doing way worse things than yeah I'm sure you've seen a lot I've seen a lot yeah that's a whole other show about that that's a whole other story but yeah so um you know so that was the beginning for me to start reconnecting with myself because I think when I was 14 and I got that train my only focus was like how can I be the best that I can do on this and and and that was my focus and and I didn't meure any sacrifice he was like if I had to work 360 days a year and I felt like I couldn't say no because people were giving me a chance and then I was like in this really overdrive uh and burn down my adrenals I found out later when I found this amazing natural Doctor Who told me like listen you don't have any more adrenal they're shut down because you burn them basically I'm like but I'm only 22 you know so um basically I had to change the habits that I you know smoking a pack of cigarettes drinking alcohol every day to myself down coffee all day to keep myself up and also going from you know one time zone to the next I was three days in Paris two days in London one day in New York going back to you know my life was in a living in a suitcase and of course your nervous system is going to freak out you know and the way I was eating it was very you know anything that was in front of me I was just like not mindful about anything you know I was just kind of um like a Workhorse and when that happen to me is when I you know I come from a family that is very my my grandmother had a tea for everything so we never had we were not the kind of you know you get sick let me see this herbal remedy that we you know so yeah you grew up in kind of a small village right in Brazil your grandmother was cultivating herbs and she was the person that everyone would go to for their remedy so you have this sort of background and connection you know with the Earth exactly that you know is kind of lingering in the back of your mind when you're just you know hammering nails and and you know drinking wine and living that life but you're young it's like that's kind of what your 20s are for kind of and you're you're on this like Jet Plane I mean figuratively and literally like your career's taking off on top of that a people pleasing tendency where you feel like you have to say yes to everything and you're just go go go go go yeah and and I think but that was a big wakeup call for me because I think sometimes you know you have to reach rock bottom and when I had that those anxiety and they start becoming like almost CRI because I couldn't get on planes he was just you know I was going to all these doctors and they were like you have to take this stuff and I was just afraid of taking anything because I've never taken anything you know I was a there was a t for for this there you know my grandmother wasn't there so finally you know I wasn't going to take any medication because just the idea of taking something I was like I was normal before how can I go back being what I was you know like I I I didn't have these issues so what's happening long story short I found this doctor I had to replace my habits it was that simple I had to replace these habits that had created the reality I was living at that moment which was you know um really killing me in in so many ways you know killing my spirit killing my and and I replace it with good habits so now instead of smoking cigarettes and having a mocha frappuccino in the morning I'll would go out and do breath work and go out for a run and you know I replace in one day I gave up everything because he he looked at me he said jelle he called me Adrenalina he says do you want to live and I said I do he's like so we going to CH change my diet and that's for the first time in my life that I realized that I I was really like the one who got myself there and I was the only person who could get myself out by the choices that I was making so I had to take full responsibility for what I had created but it was in my power only in my power to change that there were no doctors nobody who was going to save me I had to change um you know the choices I was making and I and I did that and it was incredible because after over a year and a half like really struggling with anxiety and panic attacks and all that within 3 months I was like I never had another incident and it was you know and and once you start meditating I mean at that point this was 20 years ago right it wasn't like people were talking about meditation and yoga any other that um it was just um you know when you sit in silence and you and you reflect which is what we don't really give ourselves time to do because the world is so fastpaced and everything is catching your attention is trying to throw you off your Center you know everything is so busy it's like an overload of information to have that space to go inside and reflect and look and really take a step back I think that was the biggest blessing of my life so really I think what could have killed me is what gave me a whole new life and it was amazing because since then like everything changed like I realized that food is my medicine I realized that I am the director of my own movie that I'm creating my reality based on the choices that I'm making but what I'm choosing to not the people I'm choosing to have around in my life but what type of energy what kind of thoughts I allow to what am I feeding you know what kind of thoughts am I so all of that so that became like a big um changing of seasons for me in my early 20s what were those first couple weeks like if you went completely cold turkey on all of these bad habits I think it was like a drug addict I never was a I guess I was a drug etic only legal drugs because I guess alcohol is a drug and so is cigarettes nicotine and all that and caffeine and all that but they're like socially accepted but I tell you that I had the worst migraine I mean I felt like the I mean maybe that's what a person who's going like you have gone to to rehab right so I'm I don't know what you felt I would love to hear but I for me it was like right I mean I don't know about that sub it's the only way I know how to do it though I don't understand how people kind of phase out of stuff like you have to for me you have to draw the line and step over it and it's going to suck and you're going to be uncomfortable for a while while um but you know that on the other side of that lies all of this opportunity and possibility um but uh and that's what happened to me I think there was that because what I knew I knew that what I was and what if you do what you've always done you're going to get what you've always gotten is that simple and what I realized at that moment that what I what I created for myself was not what I wanted I needed to a drastic change and then he was like draw the line stopped everything in one day and the migraines and all of that like the consequences of what I had done I had to deal with them you know it took me like two weeks I think I was like having the worst migraines just because I didn't know if it was the nicotine the caffeine the alcohol I don't know what it was but it was all of it together and um but then it was amazing because from that experience I I became so much stronger and I and there are lots of different things that happen in my life after that I feel like every time we get tested it's like the Super Mario you know like the little video game when you go to do the big boss like you go through all the phases and you go to level one the big boss is like one it's okay to defeat that one but then the second one is like a tough for big boss and then the third one is you know it's like it's life I feel like that's what life is you get like the new tools so you get equipped and then you go to the next challenge that is a bigger one and then is a bigger one I feel like that's why we're here you know to keep seeing how we can expand how much more we can to grow to evolve to expand to see how strong and how creative and how you know how can how much we can experience of all this wonder how did you how did you plug that into the fast-paced life of of your modeling career because it's one thing if you're living a more kind of grounded atome lifestyle where you can control your food and your environment a little bit better but when you're flying all over the world and you're on these sets and there's craft service and it's junk food like you have to be way ahead of the curve to prepare everything to have everything kind of organized for yourself because how do you you if you're in just hotels all over the place and you arrive at midnight like how are you getting your you know like how did so how did you manage all of that you have to be very discipline I think you know when I I did this book called lessons and um and it was like everything starts to discipline that was like my first chapter and that's what I believe you have to decide you have and then you have to have the discipline to follow through so once you realize that these choices that you are making are having a positive impact in your life you want to continue doing them you know what I mean you don't want to fall back and just something that it didn't feel good that's your past like you don't want to go back there again so you're going to stick to the plan like this is what's working and this is what made me feel good again so I'm going to stick to this and of course it's not 100% you have to be compassionate with yourself too and say you I'll be like you know life is hard as it is you need to bit yourself in the head sometimes if you go and you oh you know I had like um I was exhausted I had like a banana bread or something or I had you know but I think you realize that the choices that you're making are are really either supporting you or not you know supporting you living the life that making you feel good and living the life that you want and is taking to the direction where you want to go or not and then it's just kind of an easier choice to make right and then I feel like when I go to the jobs you know I got to the point in my life where people know how I eat and you know I can tell people like listen this is what I want I want you got extensive riter yeah I kind of you know because I was already working for so long so I I have you know I got to the I guess really the privilege to be able to to kind of say like this is the kind of things that I would like to eat so please at the job you know if you're working 10 12 hours in a studio can we have these things available you know what I mean so then it was easier to keep the food healthy you know um because I think that's so important and then just to say I feel like and then saying no to those things you know like coffee or alcohol or things that I was just so used to because I was still in that same environment the environment hadn't changed I had changed but all of that was around me still but then it was just a choice of saying you know I feel great and I haven't drank alcohol in over two years now too this is something you know I even when I went back drinking after it was very moderate you know I was still like like I would drink socially sometimes you know peer pressure sometimes like oh come on have a drink you know and then you like feel like especially in my world I mean everyone pretty much is like socially having a drink so I would be like okay I'll have a drink but then he got to a point that I was like and that was like 20 years later because it just happened over two years ago I was like I don't want to drink like I don't care what anyone thinks and I don't care if they have Fe peer pressure I'm going to have my Min tea my cam tea and if they want to drink I'm not making anyone feel bad about drinking they can do whatever they want this is their Temple you know this is my temple I get to choose and they shouldn't make me feel bad that I don't want to you know so um then I kind of stood up for myself I think that happens after your 40s like you care less about what other people think and um wait till you're 50 oh my God I can't wait for that I'm gonna like he's he's gonna be amazing but I think the thing you mentioned you mentioned like being directed and and and being kind of dedicated to your path and and and I feel like that's the underappreciated aspect of of understanding you and your career a lot of people arrive in New York City every single day with a similar dream or ambition that you had when you were a young person and you arrived there and a lot of those people are very beautiful you're beautiful but that doesn't tell the story of how you translated like an opportunity into the career that you had and I think between the lines there is an intense work ethic and a very intentional approach to what you were doing like how did you apply those skills like what is the differentiator between you and the career that you've enjoyed versus you know the other beautiful people who aren't enjoying the same kind of career you can't and you're not allowed to say luck or you're you know no I don't believe I don't believe in luck I don't believe in luck I believe in hard work and but I believe in um I mean I think discipline but I also believe that I always treated everyone the way I like to be treated and I've always was appreciative I have this immense sense of gratitude for just being there so even though you know people were like oh you know you you know when I was 19 I was like I want the model of you know the model of the year and everybody's like how does it feel to be it didn't really it doesn't matter to me because quite frankly I never saw myself as a motel it's just not something I didn't drink the Kool-Aid I didn't believe because I was a model or because I I became successful in this job like I was better than anybody I just and I didn't believe that I believe that I just got to learn that craft really well and I understood what the job entail and like I learned how to do the job really well but by no means is what defined me it's just something I did it's not it's not who I am I don't know if you know it's like I go there I had this opportunity at you know 13 14 years old when I finally left home and and and and St pursued this career that really I thought it was just really I did it for the money I did it because I was like what else am I going to do at 14 years old that I can help my family you know I don't have any other jobs that are offering me an opportunity so I'll take this one so for me it was really like a job so I never like it didn't kind of Define me I kind of did it my way like I never became like you know it was like oh it needs to be glamorous I was never glamorous I'm a jeans and t-shirt type of girl like I if I needed to go to parties or hang out with this type of people I never did any of that like I went there I did my job I did the best that I could I never was late in my life for my jobs like never showed up like late I was there before everyone I was there 100% you know I I I just wanted to make sure that if people were booking me and they they were trusting in me that I was going to show up and deliver you know and I think that's kind of what it was I did it my way you know and it didn't broke me kind of Cu I saw you know people in this business you know you can lose yourself because if you drink the Kool-Aid if you start thinking you know like you lose yourself in it I never lost myself it was just a job and it's still just a job I can't even believe I'm still doing it sometimes I go in and I do it you it's not it's not what I do full- time anymore but it's just one of those things that you know I got to do this I got to make a career out of it and got to make a great living and help my family and I I have wonderful you know I got to travel the world and learn different languages and and and all of that and that's how I see it I don't see it as a you know I don't see myself you're not defined by it you're not you're not caught up in in the kind of dark underbelly of that very strange world this whole world is like almost like a parallel reality for me you know what I mean if something is like a switch on button I go there I do my job I take my picture I turn it off I go home and I have the same friends I have my my family I'm very close with my family but I think you're very good at seeing opportunities when they arise and you tell a little story in in in the new book about being 14 and on route to Tokyo and your parents gave you your dad gave you a little bit of money that was intended for getting a cab from that's the first day arve in s Paulo and instead of using that money oh it was you were super young right so you had a little bit of money to take a tab and you had the presence of mind to say this money would be better spent buying some clothes so I can do better in my auditions or whatnot um which isn't like that's not normal like that's somebody who's thinking ahead who's planning long term who's understanding that they have an opportunity in front of them and trying to figure out how to make the most out of it with limited resources and I think that speaks to or says a lot about your sensibility or your perspective as a business person yeah I mean it's so interesting to see it that way I mean I for me at that moment in time you know I I I just felt like I did something else than that you know that was one of the things and now that you're saying that I actually did that throughout because I bought my first apartment when I was 19 years old and when everybody was buying you know designer bags all the models and you know like remember I didn't know I was going to last in this business I thought like I didn't go to school I didn't go to high school I didn't you know I I left I I went to work and whenever I go I go back I thought I was going to be a farmer or something because I just always love the land and but I I didn't think like you know like where am I going to go from here so I have to make sure that I have at least a place to live I'm a cancer so I want to have like a stable home and when I was 19 you know people start flying me first class because I was like the model of the year right saw all the clients now are paying me first class I was exchanging those tickets for Coach classes because I was every two three days in a different country and instead of paying um my you know a rent in an apartment I pay I put down a down payment for an apartment and then I was paying my mortgage instead of paying rent and you're 19 and I was 19 so I I own my first apartment as 19 years old it was like a in in New York City it was like facing a wall of another building mind you he was like a very apartment you know that does require some maturity and some long-term thinking well well because I just thought to myself like you know I don't know how long I'm going to stay here you know I i' I at least I have to have a place to live if I like I'm not going to live empty-handed you know what I mean like what do I care about a bag or like what is that going to give me it's not going to be a roof over my head I need to make sure that I have that I can spend in the right places but I think that sense came from my mother because we grew up you know my mother was a cashier in the bank my father had like lots of different jobs like he had a real estate job but he was you know my mom they literally we we were like really simple people and grew up in two bedrooms with six girls and and and money was all always tight so I learned how to is the same thing in the book is like how do you prepare how do you not waste food I mean everything is like I think in my life I was kind of like raised that way you know what I mean kind of plan ahead like for tomorrow so you make sure that you have like food for everyone like like we're going to reuse the meat we cook on the barbecue and we're going to put it in the rice we're going to have carera so we're going to have an abundant meal because we have the rest of the you know what I mean it's kind of like that it's like you put money in the bank so when you retire you have something to to live off when you can no longer work the same thing I feel about food like you eat the right food so when you're older you you're able to have the energy and your body is functioning because you made the right choices so for me it's the same thing you know it's kind of making like just being kind of what is necessary here like do I really need this what do I need more do I need a roof over my head or do I need this this bags and this stuff do I need to take a taxi when I arrive to the model apartment when I'm 14 even though I never been to the city or can I take the subway and save the money so I can get the clothes for the casting and maybe I can get a job it's like it's kind of thinking like with the resources that I have right now what is the smartest how is the smartest way to use them I guess if you're like me never without a water bottle let's get it right people allow me to rock your world with my new favorite toy that's actually not a toy at all it's a non-negotiable essential camel backs Podium steel 100% % leak proof water bottle emphasis on leak proof for all you Gearheads this is built for the bike but honestly this simple but elegant stainless steel Contraption is built for anything and everything it keeps whatever you put in it cold for hours and straight up goes everywhere I do for all you weight weenies out there Campell back actually also offers an ultra lightweight titanium version very beautiful shall we level up yes we shall because right now Campell back is offering an exclusive discount just for you all my people so stop what you're doing and type up Campell back.com sign up with your email and use my code Rich Roll for 20% off your entire purchase at checkout or you can click the link in the description [Music] below there feels like a distinction a difference between jizelle bunin and the things that you care about being this sort of homebody family person holistic lifestyle like all of this stuff and then you know Gizelle the the runway you know on the runway like it's almost an alter ego it might be an alter ego he said but it's you know what it is it's a character I always call call it her because I think being a MTO what I understood as being a motto is to play a character in a silent movie you know you get to experience all these different charact all these different aspects of of of being a woman let's say because one designer wants you to be more androgynous you know one designer was you know I remember diding a Balin Saga campaign I was like they made me a boy I was like literally like a week I was like a man a boy and in one I was like the sexy Versace campaign like you know like with big hair and like you know pushup bra you know so it was kind of like I got to play from the the androgynous girl to the very sexy to the tomb boy like I got to you know I mean you should see I don't know if you ever saw my book the other one that was like the 20 years I did a 20 well I watched the video that you did where you kind of went through it and you were talking about what was going on with you with each of those photographs yeah so it's it's it's it's really about kind of playing these different roles but it's just instead of you talking like you would be in a movie you're just you got to make the image that picture that one capture image to to it's a performance art it's a performance art but it's such a weird world I know that like Alexander McQueen he was like he was really the Catalyst right he was the guy who gave me the chance you know he gave me the the chance but when you watch his shows or some of these other shows like the designs are are stunning and gorgeous but they're also totally inaccessible it's like who wears this does anybody is there anybody in the world that even wear I mean if you're Lady Gaga I guess or somebody like that but like yeah it's a fantasy and so it's curious like how does that translate into I guess it's just how you feel and how you think about a particular designer or a brand and not so much about directly selling those designs to the person who's going to the department store or the boutique right yeah they're not thinking I don't even understand the business model of the whole thing yeah I me neither to be honest with you but I think it's a really I mean I think it has changed a lot uh since I started like I see a big shift because I think before there was a lot more creativity there was allowed a lot more creativity I think you know McQueen or JN galano you know the shows and stuff like you were like in a world like sure and the photographers being rock stars themselves oh yeah and and it was a I think it was a moment in time where there was so much less about selling but it was much more about the the inspiration and the aspir aspiring you know the aspiration of creating like a fantasy and like a and it was a lot of fun then I have to say at that time because I would have been dead I wouldn't have survived it I would have gone all in I would have been at every after hours party it would have been a disaster you see I was in bed like studying my astrology books like by 10 you know that was me I was like by 10 I was like oh no I have to go I was like I have to start early so I can go to bed early so for me it was a a different thing but um you know but I guess for me I also fell very responsible because I didn't want to one of the The Guiding lights for me I really believe was my parents because I saw how hard they work and I didn't want to disappoint them so I think part of like me being so stay on the line was like I'm not disappointing my parents I don't care if they're not here they are going to know what I'm doing like I remember part of the reason why I got so freaked out about the McQueen show and they sent me out like without a top because I couldn't speak English and they didn't even do a feeding anyway so then I was I was like oh my God if my parents see this they're GNA make me go back home and then I you know what is it like when you go internet but there was no internet in 1997 19 it wasn't so thank God because they didn't even saw that otherwi they would have been like what what are you doing I be like I don't know and you have five siblings right I have five sisters I'm a middle child I have two older sisters and two younger sisters and I'm a twin MH in the middle so we like the the sandwich like the cheese in the sandwich being Brazilian uh you're connected to the Amazon and to climate change issues and you've done a lot in terms of your environmental advocacy and clean water initiatives talk a little bit about how that began and and what that looked like now you know I um I've always been a big um basically like a child of nature I always tell my children when they ask you know what's your religion they say Mom we don't go to church I say you know what you're in church every day I say I say what do I say when people ask what my what my religion is I say love is your religion and nature is your church that's your Cathedral that's the big church that's our Temple you know so you honor your temple you love your temple you CU that's the only reason why we are all alive because this whole ecosystem is making it possible you know to grow our food to give us to provide us with all the things we need to survive so U and that's how I grew up I felt that way and especially having a grandmother that everything was from the earth you know she grew everything she ate and and uh you know the Earth was giving us the herbs that we needed to like when we fell ill and and I grew up in that way so when you grew up in that way and you grew up running around bare feet you know I come from a small village and anytime you want to eat something you grab there was like a tangerine tree or like a orange tree or is a plum tree and you just go and pick up the fruit from the tree we never bought fruits from the supermarket you know you go either you had it in your backyard or your neighbor had it or the other neighbor you know somebody had the fruit he wanted to eat you just go grab it so I think when you leave with that connection to Nature you have a different appreciation it's like so I feel like nature is just like it's it's it's me like I think we are n you know we are that and I think this connection from nature for me is not something it's just something I've always known you know is how I grew up and so for me um taking care of which I love which is nature is natural um so the but the first time I realized there was really problems happening is when I went to actually spend some time uh with the indigenous people in shingu area of the Amazon in the 2004 and that's when the first time I realized you know pesticide what's what pesticides were doing where mining was doing how they were contaminating the rivers and basically all the indigenous tribes they were living and depending on the that water they were getting sick and even though they were living very wholesomely you know with nature and you know by the impact that the big farms and different Mining and all that stuff was having um was really um having a really terrible impact in their in their their livelihoods and and that's when the first time I was like I need to do something about it and that's when I started like I had a flipflop line at the time in Brazil and we gave a percentage you know to that's actually a funny story the the the indigenous people and I was like I wonder what they would do with this with this funds but it was like a group that helped indigenous in Brazil and the funny enough when I did when I turned 40 this was in 2004 so I was like 24 cut to when I'm 40 2020 I was 40 um I wanted to do something for my 40th birthday and I was like oh I want to plant some trees in the in in the Amazon and how we going to do it so we looked around for who can help us do that and we contacted the the people that are working with the indigenous people that we knew in in Brazil and they're like we have the largest seed bank in the Amazon and we started with the money with the whole program that you gave in 2004 that money that was for the sale of the flipflops now years later they had the largest seed bank of you know the indigenous they they they collected the larger seed bank and this is how with that whole group of people we basically planted over 300,000 trees in that area of the Amazon so that was like years later so that's just how funny how life goes but for me because I was so connected to nature and I always wanted to help and my dad always said you know water is the most important thing and of course I saw that with the indigenous people because that's how they were all getting sick because all the the you know residue of Mining and and and pesticides were going into their water in my little village we were having a lot of problems with agriculture as well where there was a lot of runoffs from Roundup and all the stuff that they use in agriculture all the pesticides and stuff and it was getting a lot of people sick so we actually did the AGA limpa program in 200 I think it was 20 the N or I don't remember when we started but it was like a long time ago and I funded it and my dad who's also a sociologist worked with the university and we and we basically regenerated the whole area of the river that was kind of you know getting the water to the city and we were able to clean it it took us like a few years to do it you know it was pretty simple because all we had to do I mean it was not simple my dad is the one who did the work it was simpler for me I just kind of funded it but he was there every day he had to work with I don't know how many farmers you had to take their pie of land and kind of grow the native species Forest you know the native Forest back so then the there's a buffer there was a buffer and then the root systems could could filtrate it before all that stuff would go into the river and then that was the agal limpa project and that was one of the projects we did to clean the water and anyway so there's lots of different things but in overall thing my my thing is you know we got to take care of Mother Earth she takes care of us you know when people say to me oh we're going to save the planet I say you're that's such an ego thing you know as humans we think we're going to save anything the planets is in her own process of evolution this is a you know it's I mean dinosaurs were here before us and you know lur I mean so many different civilizations the planet will be fine that's what I always say I say please don't fool yourself I think we really saving ourselves we need to yeah I say there's no Sav we need re ourselves back yeah this is really about us protecting the resources and and taking care of what we really need for our survival because once we are gone the planet is going to regenerate I mean I've seen this over and over again the planet regenerates itself so quickly you know because it's it's just a very intelligent we need to learn from nature instead of like trying to control nature we need to just like take a humble pill and and learn from the Big Mama we've moved so far away from that and we do live in this dualistic mindset where we think there's you know our environments and then there's nature or there's us and that's outside um but really understanding that you're never out of nature as you as you said um I think it's the first point of trying to really deepen your relationship with the world in which you live we all live and share and I think when it comes to the Amazon like we all hear about deforestation and all the you know clearing that's going on for cattle grazing and the strip mining and all the stuff that you mentioned but it's an abstraction especially for you know people in North America like we know what's going on we know it's bad but I've never visited there like I've never seen it myself and you being Brazilian gives you kind of a deeper appreciation and understanding of the extent of it you know I think it's how people tell the story because I think it's a lot deeper than you know I think people like depending on the industry that wants to benefit from something that tell the story and they say okay this is what we're going to do is about the cing oh yeah it's so crazy a lot of NOS go in there and they say we're going to have an NGO because we're going to like protect Amazon but they're meantime they're the owners of the bigger paper company that comes from the Amazon they are just not you know what I mean so there it's not not all is as it seems no it's it's a very it's a wild wild west there and one of the biggest you know I've been there a few times and also done a lot of um just kind of like talking to people and understanding what happens there and a lot of the you know there's ancient Woods there and a lot of that goes to Europe so like what a lot of the the cattle for example is what they use to kind of occupy the land but what they're really after which is really valuable there is like gold and Min m you know the the rare medals the rare medals yeah the rare medals and the gold and all that stuff that's in there that's what interest this like you know the different um countries let's say they are not brail when they and because it's so corrupt unfortunately you know Brazil is very corrupt the politicians are very corrupt what happens is they sell those rights to those countries and then we have what we have and then the cattle like in the end they just kind of put them there because they have to occupy the land after they REM because they have to enter if you go there after they removed everything because they have to remove the value the value then they then they put all the cows there that's what they do so they remove the ancient wood they they remove the precious metals and and but they have to get there because if you fly over it it mean you're flying for hours over just a Green carpet so for you to have access to that you have to you can't just like clear cut because it grows so what they do to keep the the the forest from growing they just throw because it's very fertile the soil as soon as you cut because imagine that soil is been there like receiving all those back healthy bacteria from the leaves falling super fertile So within like three days you can Grass Grows Right and then in order for the trees not to keep growing because if you just leave abandon that's what's going to happen the birds are going to carry the seeds they're going to drop the seeds they're going to things are going to start growing again and then they won't have access you know so they kind of it's just like a cycle like but what is really after what they're really after it is the big stuff is the is the and and it's not unfortunately you know it's h it's so sad you know is greed mhm in the end of the day is greed and is greed by people that you know they don't have those natural resources where they are and and they understand the situation in Brazil and how corrupt the this the the system is you know with the politicians and they come and they they just buy those right they exploited they exploited in in every way but and and in the end of the day it's um I think greed is the biggest dis disease of of our time you're not going to get an argument from me on that over the last decade of Hosting this podcast my mission has been to engage in what I consider to be critically important conversations about the things that matter most in life things like Health relationships growth purpose and service while I'm immensely grateful for the growth of this show I've also come to realize that my voice alone is not enough this mission is not and cannot be a solitary Endeavor so I wanted to find a way to help amplify other meaningful voices and the result is voicing change media this beautiful Consortium of thinkers of storytellers artists and Visionaries all committed to fostering meaningful exchanges intentionally curated for those committed to the path of self-discovery this 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their best interest from a wellness perspective I think the number one thing I feel is like monkey see monkey does right I think you have to be the example you have to leave it um cuz I think whatever you say is one thing and whatever you do you they need to kind they need to whatever you say whatever you do they have to be the same thing right sympatico yeah they have to be sympatico and um and that's what it is and and I think for the kids for my kids were were a lot easier because I was home a lot with them so I was you know taking them to school every day making their breakfast you know just having my Gardens at home growing the food so when the kids would come for play dates at the house you know my kids were grabbing like everything raw cucumbers carrots like green beans they were just grabbing it from the garden and like collecting things and putting in the basket it was like a game for them and it was like oh friends are coming over why are we going to grab for the for to Door picnic outside and then so they grew up in that way you know they they uh so it was easier for me to feed them healthier food and and and and explain to them you know we always compost it we had bees at our house um so you know they they were learning about you know when The Beekeeper would come and they explain you know how much be how much honey can you take and how much money how much honey do you leave for the bees and how does a the how does a queen bee work and all the so they were they're emotionally connected they were emotionally connected they were part of that like I was as a kid so um so for them is really natural and they were also homeschooled for the last three years um during the you know the whole pandemic thing I and we moved from Boston to Tampa so um it was a whole new world for them so I I homeschooled them and now they just went back to school but I have to tell you I see a huge difference especially because my son is 14 now so he wants to kind of push back this is what I'm getting at oh yeah well how old kid well they range from 28 to 16 and each one of there's four and each of them is different um but it's a delicate dance because you know we raised our kids similarly um but they reach a certain age and part of individuation and maturing is taking ownership for your own choices and understanding what you stand for and what you don't and in order to really Define that and hone that you have to go out and kind of push the envelope and try new things otherwise it's just something you're doing because that's the way you were raised and that's what your parents told you as opposed to really owning it for yourself and so so we have learned that you have to have the brains very loose and and let them go out and do what they want to do and control the environment at home but be you know very kind of nonplused if they go and make a choice that you wouldn't make or whatever and just be curious about it and allow them the space to do that and you know you hope they come back and you know do it the way you taught them to um and sometimes they do and sometimes they don't and again every one of them is different in our case but as they get to a certain point and especially you know when they're with peers and friends and they're in social situations those things they have to learn for themselves and you have to allow them to I think it's so interesting so you have to let go a little bit oh let go and let God yeah I tell myself that is like a mantra you know and and and I I I remind myself of like my mom let me leave home she emancipated me and I was leing in Japan at 14 and there was no cell phones like I call you know can you imagine doing that for one of your children right now no and actually you know what it's so funny because I was having a conversation with my son about that he um he was complaining you know I have chores in my house you know kids have to do their chores so set the table wash the dishes you know now I make a point you know I cook at you know they come from school I'm cooking you know they so one has to set the table whoever sets the table the other has to wash the dishes and there is like you have to clean your room you have to do the basic stuff you know my daughter is doing amazingly she loves it and she's like really good and very proud of herself mom look how good I cleaned the dishes like she's really good and she's washing herself she's not putting it in the machine she wants to learn how to really wash it and and and do it right and she's very focused on it my son is like always like why do I have to do this you know so actually we had like a breakthrough this Christmas this this whole holiday season because I said he says to me I'm going to leave home when I'm 18 mom and I don't know if I'm going to go to college you didn't go to college you didn't go to school I'm going to just leave home when I'm 18 and I'm going to do this and I'm going to do that I'm like okay that's great so you're going to leave in your own apartment and who's going to cook for you and who's going to wash your dishes and who's going to clean your clothes who's going to do that and he's like for a second he's like because you're not going to have a chef and like a you know like and he was thinking for a second and I say well this is why when mommy tells you to do those things at home you know is because I want to give you more tools for your tool boox because when you learn how to do those things and they become second nature to you then you don't even have to think about it you become empowered to do it for yourself you don't depend on anybody and that's nothing it's amazing to be able to do that I said you know what made me feel so like strong and capable when I left my home because my mom taught me how to do those things so when I left home and I was leaving by myself at 14 years old I was first at 13 at 14 I moved to Japan but because I was leaving in the mod's apartment I was the only person there who knew how to clean cook iron do absolutely everything in the house because my mom taught me and it was easy for me I didn't think it was a struggle I was happy to do it and I was happy to to do it for the other girls that didn't know how to do it but if you're going to be planning on leaving on your own at 18 who do you think is going to do all those things for you so all I'm telling you is like take advantage that mommy's here for you right now and I'm able to teach you all those things and you can do it at your time I'm not telling you like at this time you have to wash the dishes so let me just help you I'm going to create a list for you and you just have to do them and you can decide if you want to wash clothes once or twice a week you can decide if you want to wash the dishes right after dinner or before you go to bed whatever you want but if you learn how to do those things you're going to see how empowered you're going to feel and the more tools we can put like the more things like the simple things like that that you can learn and that you can equip your tool box to do you're just going to be just that much like capable and and and there's nothing more fulfilling than feeling like you're able to do stuff that you're capable and then he looked at me and he's like okay mom so when we get back home you give me that list and I'm going to do it I'm like I wow I was going to say like he actually he actually receiv that I I think I have a breakthrough I think I got a breakthrough with the hormones are raging like whatever mom you know storming off like you can get you can get that reaction too that was good good job don't you think that was a good thing but but I used but you see it was a moment that I used what he said because when he thought to himself that's true how am I going to do all that stuff I said you don't want to live in like a you know a messy stinky place that is not clean like you know you want to like have you know so you need to know how to do this stuff and I think all I I see like all the things that happen in life like that like different tools we acquire you know even the job that I you know my job like all the tools that I've acquired in this job all the things that I've learned to do um that I don't know when I'm going to use I use them for my job but maybe I'm going to they going to be useful like in 20 years from my life sure but you came from very different circumstances it's the it's the Peril of success right like you and and the kid's dad like worked very hard to achieve all of these things in life and now they're reared in you know like an insane degree of privilege and it becomes more difficult to instill that kind of work ethic into somebody who you know grows up that way I think you're correct I think it becomes a lot more difficult but I think goes back to the discipline and it goes back to priorities and I think it for me it becomes about what kind of you know I I feel like I'm their Guardian because we don't possess our children right I mean we just come here they come through us but they're as much as our teachers as we are they're teachers and we're constantly learning and teaching you know in every relationship in our life and and I feel that we get this moment in time which is very short in a way that we get to influence our children because then they go I mean look at my parents they had 14 years to influence me then I was out in the world and I never went back and I keep remembering like what are all the things that if they wouldn't have taught me those things where would I be today and I'm so grateful for them for for those lessons and I feel like yes I grew up in very different circumstances than my kids and it is a bit more challenging to have them you know make their bed and wash the dishes and clean their you know when I have a person that can do it too but I make a point of me doing it so then they learn that oh Mommy's doing the dinner Mommy is making the breakfast mommy is so they're like weel you have to model and I feel like it's a different kind of modeling is it is the type of modeling that I prefer it's it's the type of modeling that I find to be the important type of modeling because that's the you know I mean what's Mo the most important thing you're going to do in your life I feel like raising children is is by far the most challenging thing I've ever done and the most uh fulfilling at the same time and you know but I feel that if if I if I don't do that if I don't equip my children to be good capable assets you know for themselves in their lives if they're not going to be then I fail I I feel yeah you haven't done your job then I haven't done my job I mean I feel that's my job I mean that's a job I do to kind of make a living so I can like you know put foot on the table and have but my real job as as I think as a as a mom and I chose to be a mom so I have to show up for my kids and I feel like this things that my you know I think is really what shaped me and what made me who I am today was definitely the upbringing that I had and and what my parents how they guided me and I feel like that's really important so I make that a priority in my life to make sure that my kids are going to have even though they don't have those same needs you know to do those things because my mom didn't have a a person she could pay to come clean the house we had to you clean the bathroom you clean the you know it was like a list all of us have to share between us who's going to do what and we grew up that way and it was kind of fun because you know I was always I always love the cleaning part you know I love organizing and cleaning I feel like a clean house is a clean mind is like a what's out is in you know if like if everything is organized outside I can think um and I tell my kids that and I feel that um if I can really get them to do those simple things in life you know and and learn those things and teach them how to be self-sufficient and capable human beings I feel like I've done my job and then I can rest and then whatever else they do the choices they make if they choose to eat the food that I fed them when they were little if now they want to go eat you know whatever or I mean it's going to be what they're going to do you know they're going to choose their friends hopefully they they choose wisely because in the end of the day they're going to be the one dealing with the consequences of their actions and I always tell them like listen you know you're going to go out there and you're going to make the Cho whatever choice you make there are going to be consequences you're dealing with those consequences me this is your life and sometimes they need to they need to make those mistakes and face those consequences like we had I mean how many mistakes that I mean I have and those those experiences are formative like I'm sure if you look in the rear view mirror and think about the panic attacks that you were having on airplanes and your inability to get into an elevator and you know this desire to jump off your balcony on some level you wouldn't wish that experience on anybody but you probably wouldn't wna change your experience either because it's set in motion this whole sensibility and way of being that you now have and I think with kids they regardless of whether they hear you in the moment or whether they go out into the world and make a bunch of mistakes like they come back yeah and whatever you taught them it's in there and at some point when they're ready or whatever like they return to it and you know and and I think to to trust that it's very important and I also feel like because if you try to overly control it you're going to drive them away absolutely and and you know I think for me I keep going back to me as a kid and the trust my parents had in me to let me go and I wouldn't be who I am today if it wasn't for them trusting in me and for all the mistakes that I've made and then had to come the other side and figure out for myself so I think it's important to give our children the Dignity of Their Own process you know because we had a dignity you know we have to go through our own process to become who we are and I think as long as they know that we are there and what what is our values you know is like those things that are important what is what is that we stand for what's important for us you know as as as as a as a value as a core value as as as a being a good human being and a good person and if you thought that your children and and they and they got it in the end of the day they're going to go out there in the world and they're going to have to make their mistakes and I I think the best thing you can do for them it's is just be there for them whenever they they come back and if they want your help you know and I think it's it's hard because you want to protect them like you can put Bobble wrap on them so like nothing will touch them and they will be safe but in the end of the day that's unrealistic and it's like it doesn't work anyway you know what I like this idea you know there's a metaphor of the butterfly imagine the caterpillar as she's transforming into becoming the butterfly she's you know eating eating all the you know until she finally starts spinning into a cocoon and and then she has to like go through that whole stous process if you ever seen like you know they turn into GP yeah but they're like but it's exactly it's just and it's really kind of like hard to like when they're coming out it's like really awkward and it looks like they're very strenuous and very difficult so if you go in there and you try to help them come out you're going to them you're going to the butterfly and she won't be able to have the strength she needs struggle is the struggle is what crucial to the the growth and you have to give them the Dignity of their own process you have to be and I and I keep reminding myself I cannot take away that opportunity for them because my parents gave me the opportunity for me to go through my own challenges and I grew and and I want my kids to have that same opportunity because whoever they're going to become is going to be based on what their choice is and hopefully I gave them enough good examples and and and good um values where they would make the choices that is right for them you know what is it that you want people to understand or take away from the new book and and how you are modeling this lifestyle um whether it's dietary changes Lifestyle Changes uh movement practices how can somebody who is interested in kind of leveling up across the board begin the process of of making those changes in their life you know it's funny you know because when I decided to do a cookbook I'm the farthest thing there is from a chef let me tell you something I I am not a chef let me just like let's be honest you've got a private Chef in home that person is taking care of everything not anymore I used to you don't anymore no I don't I don't it's no the last two years I don't you're cooking your own meals yes I'm cooking my own meals yeah I I grew up there way and I want like I told you like my priority is showing my kids what I believe it's important for them and and and I can't I can't say oh this is important and then I have and I'm not doing it you know what I mean so it has to be cohesive right and and I think that for me um really being like living what I believe is very important and I was showing my kids that this is important to me like the only way I'm going to show them that is by doing that so yes I had chefs and this is how I learn how to cook a lot of the things a lot of the recipes in the book are like inspired by the things that I created with the chefs that I throughout the years I had the opportunity to you know to really work with Incredible people incredible Chef people that love food as much as I do because I love food um but was really an idea for me to look I can say go and meditate go and exercise you know I believe meditation I believe rest I believe um exercise I believe nutrition all of those things are extremely important for you to be able to take kind of ownership of your health and really take care of yourself and have and work on just having a more clear mind and just feeling more connected to yourself I think all of those things are different aspects of it but the reason about the cookbook is quite frankly I was seeing kids were coming to our house and in play dates and and moms will come and be like how did you get my kid to eat broccoli or roasted vegetables or and it was like so simple and I was like oh maybe we can share how to make some simple recipes that are super easy you can make it like in 10 minutes and you know moms some you know you just sometimes feel overwhelmed and I know because life is busy there's so so much going on so I was like how can I help in this way and also I feel like food is a perfect time for you to practice being present and mindful because you can eat like on a rush and not being present and the food have a one effect in your body or you can do something which is what I talk about in the book is like every time I look at my food not only the act of preparing your food there so much loves and you're touching the food and you're connecting with your food that's one thing but even if you're not the one cooking your food just to take a moment to bless your food to acknowledge that that is something that is alive that you're taking it and you're that's also your source of life you know so it's kind of like connecting to the food in that way I think it it does something because everything is energy so you're having a transfer of energy with something and with the intention that you're eating it has a different I I feel huge you know when I start doing that does make a difference how he has a different just being present and being connected to what you're doing having gratitude for that moment and you get to do that three times a day you know I mean now I have a juice once a day but I still blast my juice but it's just kind of like it's just this book what I would like to to to for people to take is like it can be really simple it doesn't have to be complicated to to eat healthy and really like if you have plans you know my mom taught me you know since I was a kid like no food waste so how can we organize our meals so can there's a big thing about like reducing waste yeah there for me that's huge and also like me planning like if you're going to buy because or you know food sourcing that's huge it's not about having something with a lot of condiments and a lot of stuff it's just like keep it simple but buying really great quality products like if you can do that and then instead of like because a lot of people are like oh and then you buy organic and then you throw it out because it's like you know it spoils much faster and I'm like yeah but if you have a meal planning and I and I teach that I kind of give some suggestions in the book like my mom did that I grew up like that because she didn't have time you know she was working all the time so she had like in the fridge like what we going to have for the whole week so she would go to the groceries and she would buy and then the things were allowed to the next day so you would always know what we were eating and things that wouldn't be eaten could be easily transferred for the next day and be made into the next organiz so that nothing spoils and you're so nothing spoils and you never had food waste because you're always taking it from one day to the next so is never wasting you always	you're not caught up in in the kind of dark underbelly of that very strange world this whole world is like almost like a parallel reality for me you know what I mean if something is like a switch on button I go there I do my job I take my picture I turn it off I go home and I have the same friends I have my my family I'm very close with my family but I think you're very good at seeing opportunities when they arise and you tell a little story in in in the new book about being 14 and on route to Tokyo and your parents gave you your dad gave you a little bit of money that was intended for getting a cab from that's the first day arve in s Paulo and instead of using that money oh it was you were super young right so you had a little bit of money to take a tab and you had the presence of mind to say this money would be better spent buying some clothes so I can do better in my auditions or whatnot um which isn't like that's not normal like that's somebody who's thinking ahead who's planning long term who's understanding that they have an opportunity in front of them and trying to figure out how to make the most out of it with limited resources and I think that speaks to or says a lot about your sensibility or	8	4	6	you're not caught up in in the kind of dark underbelly of that very strange world this whole world is like almost like a parallel reality for me you know what I mean if something is like a switch on button I go there I do my job I take my picture I turn it off I go home and I have the same friends I have my my family I'm very close with my family	I think you're very good at seeing opportunities when they arise and you tell a little story in in in the new book about being 14 and on route to Tokyo and your parents gave you your dad gave you a little bit of money that was intended for getting a cab from that's the first day arve in s Paulo and instead of using that money oh it was you were super young right so you had a little bit of money to take a tab and you had the presence of mind to say this money would be better spent buying some clothes so I can do better in my auditions or whatnot um which isn't like that's not normal like that's somebody who's thinking ahead who's planning long term who's understanding that they have an opportunity in front of them and trying to figure out how to make the most out of it with limited resources and I think that speaks to or says a lot about your sensibility or	6,0,8	8,4,6	6	0	8	8	4	6
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjK5ahIgsHA	4,193	rjK5ahIgsHA	2024-03-25 00:00:00	the choices that you're making are really either supporting you or not straight from the pages of Victoria Secret please welcome jaelle bunin gazelle bunin gazelle has walked in nearly 500 fashion shows and great the covers of more than 1,200 different magazines on paper like you're perhaps highly unrelatable you know what it is it's a character that's the job I do to kind of make a living so I can like you know put foot on the table raising children is is by far the most challenging thing I've ever done it's a different kind of modeling is the type of modeling that I prefer food is a perfect time for you to practice being present and mindful because it can be really simple it doesn't have to be complicated to eat healthy nature is just like it's me instead of like trying to control nature we need to just like take a humble pill and and learn from the Big Mama [Music] today's episode is brought to you by the awesome organizations that make this show [Music] possible so nice to meet you nice to meet you too so excited to have you here today yes when this opportunity presented itself I was like of course I want to talk to Jazelle and then I had my own like sort of mini panic attack we're going to get into panic attacks I'm like what could I possibly talk to this person about the alltime great super model of all time everybody knows this on paper like you're perhaps highly unrelatable but then the more you dig into your story and the more I kind of learned about your Arc and your past and what brought you to this place there's so much that's deeply relatable and your kind of transformation story is remarkably similar to mine although you did yours at like 23 I was 40 um but there's so much in there so I thought it would be cool to kind of um talk a little bit about what it was like what happened and how you made these changes in your life because I think you're in this interesting new season right now where despite the fact that you've been this Wellness Advocate and wellness Warrior for a long time my sense is that there's a there's a more full Embrace of of that now with kind of how you see yourself and what's important to you a well thank you for the introduction you know the funny thing is I you know people's you know what I did for a living is something that kind of just happened to me at 14 years old you know it was it was like hey do you want to be a model and I thought oh I can help my family you know I can do make a living and and help you know I have five sisters and and all that so modeling to me is something that is um an opportunity that came along like I think in life you have these opportunities that either you take that train and then see where it goes you know and I never even believed that this was going to take me and I was going to be doing this for almost 30 years you know it's it's one of those things that I was like oh I'll start doing this job and you know send money home and help my sisters go through school and do all that and um and maybe in five years you know I'll get a house because I didn't even go to school you know I I I was emancipated at 14 yeah you were in Tokyo at 14 I was living in Japan without speaking English and J or Japanese and that's when I when I start learning the language of of of energy you know what I mean because you don't have to understand the language you just have to feel you know something there's a lot more that has been said without words you know sure so I start learning about that um but I think that I went through this journey of modeling which was something I thought was going to last five years and I was just going to help my family out for a little bit and it just kept going you know it just kept happening you know I I didn't even think you can have longevity in this career because it's not what I what I saw really around me happening um but you know I kept it kept working out so I kept doing it and it was kind of a Mindless thing you know when you got in the hamster wheel and I think we do that sometimes in life and you're so young you don't know and you Liv the fast life and all of that so in my early 20s I um developed you know anxiety and panic attacks and all that because you know when you drink a bottle of wine and that because you like I used to be a smoker so I smoke I can't even imagine I used to smoke it feels like a whole different life you know but um it was the late 90s and there was a lot of um drugs and fashion and all that so I thought I was saying just because I was like having some wine and smoking cigarettes everybody was doing way worse things than yeah I'm sure you've seen a lot I've seen a lot yeah that's a whole other show about that that's a whole other story but yeah so um you know so that was the beginning for me to start reconnecting with myself because I think when I was 14 and I got that train my only focus was like how can I be the best that I can do on this and and and that was my focus and and I didn't meure any sacrifice he was like if I had to work 360 days a year and I felt like I couldn't say no because people were giving me a chance and then I was like in this really overdrive uh and burn down my adrenals I found out later when I found this amazing natural Doctor Who told me like listen you don't have any more adrenal they're shut down because you burn them basically I'm like but I'm only 22 you know so um basically I had to change the habits that I you know smoking a pack of cigarettes drinking alcohol every day to myself down coffee all day to keep myself up and also going from you know one time zone to the next I was three days in Paris two days in London one day in New York going back to you know my life was in a living in a suitcase and of course your nervous system is going to freak out you know and the way I was eating it was very you know anything that was in front of me I was just like not mindful about anything you know I was just kind of um like a Workhorse and when that happen to me is when I you know I come from a family that is very my my grandmother had a tea for everything so we never had we were not the kind of you know you get sick let me see this herbal remedy that we you know so yeah you grew up in kind of a small village right in Brazil your grandmother was cultivating herbs and she was the person that everyone would go to for their remedy so you have this sort of background and connection you know with the Earth exactly that you know is kind of lingering in the back of your mind when you're just you know hammering nails and and you know drinking wine and living that life but you're young it's like that's kind of what your 20s are for kind of and you're you're on this like Jet Plane I mean figuratively and literally like your career's taking off on top of that a people pleasing tendency where you feel like you have to say yes to everything and you're just go go go go go yeah and and I think but that was a big wakeup call for me because I think sometimes you know you have to reach rock bottom and when I had that those anxiety and they start becoming like almost CRI because I couldn't get on planes he was just you know I was going to all these doctors and they were like you have to take this stuff and I was just afraid of taking anything because I've never taken anything you know I was a there was a t for for this there you know my grandmother wasn't there so finally you know I wasn't going to take any medication because just the idea of taking something I was like I was normal before how can I go back being what I was you know like I I I didn't have these issues so what's happening long story short I found this doctor I had to replace my habits it was that simple I had to replace these habits that had created the reality I was living at that moment which was you know um really killing me in in so many ways you know killing my spirit killing my and and I replace it with good habits so now instead of smoking cigarettes and having a mocha frappuccino in the morning I'll would go out and do breath work and go out for a run and you know I replace in one day I gave up everything because he he looked at me he said jelle he called me Adrenalina he says do you want to live and I said I do he's like so we going to CH change my diet and that's for the first time in my life that I realized that I I was really like the one who got myself there and I was the only person who could get myself out by the choices that I was making so I had to take full responsibility for what I had created but it was in my power only in my power to change that there were no doctors nobody who was going to save me I had to change um you know the choices I was making and I and I did that and it was incredible because after over a year and a half like really struggling with anxiety and panic attacks and all that within 3 months I was like I never had another incident and it was you know and and once you start meditating I mean at that point this was 20 years ago right it wasn't like people were talking about meditation and yoga any other that um it was just um you know when you sit in silence and you and you reflect which is what we don't really give ourselves time to do because the world is so fastpaced and everything is catching your attention is trying to throw you off your Center you know everything is so busy it's like an overload of information to have that space to go inside and reflect and look and really take a step back I think that was the biggest blessing of my life so really I think what could have killed me is what gave me a whole new life and it was amazing because since then like everything changed like I realized that food is my medicine I realized that I am the director of my own movie that I'm creating my reality based on the choices that I'm making but what I'm choosing to not the people I'm choosing to have around in my life but what type of energy what kind of thoughts I allow to what am I feeding you know what kind of thoughts am I so all of that so that became like a big um changing of seasons for me in my early 20s what were those first couple weeks like if you went completely cold turkey on all of these bad habits I think it was like a drug addict I never was a I guess I was a drug etic only legal drugs because I guess alcohol is a drug and so is cigarettes nicotine and all that and caffeine and all that but they're like socially accepted but I tell you that I had the worst migraine I mean I felt like the I mean maybe that's what a person who's going like you have gone to to rehab right so I'm I don't know what you felt I would love to hear but I for me it was like right I mean I don't know about that sub it's the only way I know how to do it though I don't understand how people kind of phase out of stuff like you have to for me you have to draw the line and step over it and it's going to suck and you're going to be uncomfortable for a while while um but you know that on the other side of that lies all of this opportunity and possibility um but uh and that's what happened to me I think there was that because what I knew I knew that what I was and what if you do what you've always done you're going to get what you've always gotten is that simple and what I realized at that moment that what I what I created for myself was not what I wanted I needed to a drastic change and then he was like draw the line stopped everything in one day and the migraines and all of that like the consequences of what I had done I had to deal with them you know it took me like two weeks I think I was like having the worst migraines just because I didn't know if it was the nicotine the caffeine the alcohol I don't know what it was but it was all of it together and um but then it was amazing because from that experience I I became so much stronger and I and there are lots of different things that happen in my life after that I feel like every time we get tested it's like the Super Mario you know like the little video game when you go to do the big boss like you go through all the phases and you go to level one the big boss is like one it's okay to defeat that one but then the second one is like a tough for big boss and then the third one is you know it's like it's life I feel like that's what life is you get like the new tools so you get equipped and then you go to the next challenge that is a bigger one and then is a bigger one I feel like that's why we're here you know to keep seeing how we can expand how much more we can to grow to evolve to expand to see how strong and how creative and how you know how can how much we can experience of all this wonder how did you how did you plug that into the fast-paced life of of your modeling career because it's one thing if you're living a more kind of grounded atome lifestyle where you can control your food and your environment a little bit better but when you're flying all over the world and you're on these sets and there's craft service and it's junk food like you have to be way ahead of the curve to prepare everything to have everything kind of organized for yourself because how do you you if you're in just hotels all over the place and you arrive at midnight like how are you getting your you know like how did so how did you manage all of that you have to be very discipline I think you know when I I did this book called lessons and um and it was like everything starts to discipline that was like my first chapter and that's what I believe you have to decide you have and then you have to have the discipline to follow through so once you realize that these choices that you are making are having a positive impact in your life you want to continue doing them you know what I mean you don't want to fall back and just something that it didn't feel good that's your past like you don't want to go back there again so you're going to stick to the plan like this is what's working and this is what made me feel good again so I'm going to stick to this and of course it's not 100% you have to be compassionate with yourself too and say you I'll be like you know life is hard as it is you need to bit yourself in the head sometimes if you go and you oh you know I had like um I was exhausted I had like a banana bread or something or I had you know but I think you realize that the choices that you're making are are really either supporting you or not you know supporting you living the life that making you feel good and living the life that you want and is taking to the direction where you want to go or not and then it's just kind of an easier choice to make right and then I feel like when I go to the jobs you know I got to the point in my life where people know how I eat and you know I can tell people like listen this is what I want I want you got extensive riter yeah I kind of you know because I was already working for so long so I I have you know I got to the I guess really the privilege to be able to to kind of say like this is the kind of things that I would like to eat so please at the job you know if you're working 10 12 hours in a studio can we have these things available you know what I mean so then it was easier to keep the food healthy you know um because I think that's so important and then just to say I feel like and then saying no to those things you know like coffee or alcohol or things that I was just so used to because I was still in that same environment the environment hadn't changed I had changed but all of that was around me still but then it was just a choice of saying you know I feel great and I haven't drank alcohol in over two years now too this is something you know I even when I went back drinking after it was very moderate you know I was still like like I would drink socially sometimes you know peer pressure sometimes like oh come on have a drink you know and then you like feel like especially in my world I mean everyone pretty much is like socially having a drink so I would be like okay I'll have a drink but then he got to a point that I was like and that was like 20 years later because it just happened over two years ago I was like I don't want to drink like I don't care what anyone thinks and I don't care if they have Fe peer pressure I'm going to have my Min tea my cam tea and if they want to drink I'm not making anyone feel bad about drinking they can do whatever they want this is their Temple you know this is my temple I get to choose and they shouldn't make me feel bad that I don't want to you know so um then I kind of stood up for myself I think that happens after your 40s like you care less about what other people think and um wait till you're 50 oh my God I can't wait for that I'm gonna like he's he's gonna be amazing but I think the thing you mentioned you mentioned like being directed and and and being kind of dedicated to your path and and and I feel like that's the underappreciated aspect of of understanding you and your career a lot of people arrive in New York City every single day with a similar dream or ambition that you had when you were a young person and you arrived there and a lot of those people are very beautiful you're beautiful but that doesn't tell the story of how you translated like an opportunity into the career that you had and I think between the lines there is an intense work ethic and a very intentional approach to what you were doing like how did you apply those skills like what is the differentiator between you and the career that you've enjoyed versus you know the other beautiful people who aren't enjoying the same kind of career you can't and you're not allowed to say luck or you're you know no I don't believe I don't believe in luck I don't believe in luck I believe in hard work and but I believe in um I mean I think discipline but I also believe that I always treated everyone the way I like to be treated and I've always was appreciative I have this immense sense of gratitude for just being there so even though you know people were like oh you know you you know when I was 19 I was like I want the model of you know the model of the year and everybody's like how does it feel to be it didn't really it doesn't matter to me because quite frankly I never saw myself as a motel it's just not something I didn't drink the Kool-Aid I didn't believe because I was a model or because I I became successful in this job like I was better than anybody I just and I didn't believe that I believe that I just got to learn that craft really well and I understood what the job entail and like I learned how to do the job really well but by no means is what defined me it's just something I did it's not it's not who I am I don't know if you know it's like I go there I had this opportunity at you know 13 14 years old when I finally left home and and and and St pursued this career that really I thought it was just really I did it for the money I did it because I was like what else am I going to do at 14 years old that I can help my family you know I don't have any other jobs that are offering me an opportunity so I'll take this one so for me it was really like a job so I never like it didn't kind of Define me I kind of did it my way like I never became like you know it was like oh it needs to be glamorous I was never glamorous I'm a jeans and t-shirt type of girl like I if I needed to go to parties or hang out with this type of people I never did any of that like I went there I did my job I did the best that I could I never was late in my life for my jobs like never showed up like late I was there before everyone I was there 100% you know I I I just wanted to make sure that if people were booking me and they they were trusting in me that I was going to show up and deliver you know and I think that's kind of what it was I did it my way you know and it didn't broke me kind of Cu I saw you know people in this business you know you can lose yourself because if you drink the Kool-Aid if you start thinking you know like you lose yourself in it I never lost myself it was just a job and it's still just a job I can't even believe I'm still doing it sometimes I go in and I do it you it's not it's not what I do full- time anymore but it's just one of those things that you know I got to do this I got to make a career out of it and got to make a great living and help my family and I I have wonderful you know I got to travel the world and learn different languages and and and all of that and that's how I see it I don't see it as a you know I don't see myself you're not defined by it you're not you're not caught up in in the kind of dark underbelly of that very strange world this whole world is like almost like a parallel reality for me you know what I mean if something is like a switch on button I go there I do my job I take my picture I turn it off I go home and I have the same friends I have my my family I'm very close with my family but I think you're very good at seeing opportunities when they arise and you tell a little story in in in the new book about being 14 and on route to Tokyo and your parents gave you your dad gave you a little bit of money that was intended for getting a cab from that's the first day arve in s Paulo and instead of using that money oh it was you were super young right so you had a little bit of money to take a tab and you had the presence of mind to say this money would be better spent buying some clothes so I can do better in my auditions or whatnot um which isn't like that's not normal like that's somebody who's thinking ahead who's planning long term who's understanding that they have an opportunity in front of them and trying to figure out how to make the most out of it with limited resources and I think that speaks to or says a lot about your sensibility or your perspective as a business person yeah I mean it's so interesting to see it that way I mean I for me at that moment in time you know I I I just felt like I did something else than that you know that was one of the things and now that you're saying that I actually did that throughout because I bought my first apartment when I was 19 years old and when everybody was buying you know designer bags all the models and you know like remember I didn't know I was going to last in this business I thought like I didn't go to school I didn't go to high school I didn't you know I I left I I went to work and whenever I go I go back I thought I was going to be a farmer or something because I just always love the land and but I I didn't think like you know like where am I going to go from here so I have to make sure that I have at least a place to live I'm a cancer so I want to have like a stable home and when I was 19 you know people start flying me first class because I was like the model of the year right saw all the clients now are paying me first class I was exchanging those tickets for Coach classes because I was every two three days in a different country and instead of paying um my you know a rent in an apartment I pay I put down a down payment for an apartment and then I was paying my mortgage instead of paying rent and you're 19 and I was 19 so I I own my first apartment as 19 years old it was like a in in New York City it was like facing a wall of another building mind you he was like a very apartment you know that does require some maturity and some long-term thinking well well because I just thought to myself like you know I don't know how long I'm going to stay here you know I i' I at least I have to have a place to live if I like I'm not going to live empty-handed you know what I mean like what do I care about a bag or like what is that going to give me it's not going to be a roof over my head I need to make sure that I have that I can spend in the right places but I think that sense came from my mother because we grew up you know my mother was a cashier in the bank my father had like lots of different jobs like he had a real estate job but he was you know my mom they literally we we were like really simple people and grew up in two bedrooms with six girls and and and money was all always tight so I learned how to is the same thing in the book is like how do you prepare how do you not waste food I mean everything is like I think in my life I was kind of like raised that way you know what I mean kind of plan ahead like for tomorrow so you make sure that you have like food for everyone like like we're going to reuse the meat we cook on the barbecue and we're going to put it in the rice we're going to have carera so we're going to have an abundant meal because we have the rest of the you know what I mean it's kind of like that it's like you put money in the bank so when you retire you have something to to live off when you can no longer work the same thing I feel about food like you eat the right food so when you're older you you're able to have the energy and your body is functioning because you made the right choices so for me it's the same thing you know it's kind of making like just being kind of what is necessary here like do I really need this what do I need more do I need a roof over my head or do I need this this bags and this stuff do I need to take a taxi when I arrive to the model apartment when I'm 14 even though I never been to the city or can I take the subway and save the money so I can get the clothes for the casting and maybe I can get a job it's like it's kind of thinking like with the resources that I have right now what is the smartest how is the smartest way to use them I guess if you're like me never without a water bottle let's get it right people allow me to rock your world with my new favorite toy that's actually not a toy at all it's a non-negotiable essential camel backs Podium steel 100% % leak proof water bottle emphasis on leak proof for all 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it's you know what it is it's a character I always call call it her because I think being a MTO what I understood as being a motto is to play a character in a silent movie you know you get to experience all these different charact all these different aspects of of of being a woman let's say because one designer wants you to be more androgynous you know one designer was you know I remember diding a Balin Saga campaign I was like they made me a boy I was like literally like a week I was like a man a boy and in one I was like the sexy Versace campaign like you know like with big hair and like you know pushup bra you know so it was kind of like I got to play from the the androgynous girl to the very sexy to the tomb boy like I got to you know I mean you should see I don't know if you ever saw my book the other one that was like the 20 years I did a 20 well I watched the video that you did where you kind of went through it and you were talking about what was going on with you with each of those photographs yeah so it's it's it's it's really about kind of playing these different roles but it's just instead of you talking like you would be in a movie you're just you got to make the image that picture that one capture image to to it's a performance art it's a performance art but it's such a weird world I know that like Alexander McQueen he was like he was really the Catalyst right he was the guy who gave me the chance you know he gave me the the chance but when you watch his shows or some of these other shows like the designs are are stunning and gorgeous but they're also totally inaccessible it's like who wears this does anybody is there anybody in the world that even wear I mean if you're Lady Gaga I guess or somebody like that but like yeah it's a fantasy and so it's curious like how does that translate into I guess it's just how you feel and how you think about a particular designer or a brand and not so much about directly selling those designs to the person who's going to the department store or the boutique right yeah they're not thinking I don't even understand the business model of the whole thing yeah I me neither to be honest with you but I think it's a really I mean I think it has changed a lot uh since I started like I see a big shift because I think before there was a lot more creativity there was allowed a lot more creativity I think you know McQueen or JN galano you know the shows and stuff like you were like in a world like sure and the photographers being rock stars themselves oh yeah and and it was a I think it was a moment in time where there was so much less about selling but it was much more about the the inspiration and the aspir aspiring you know the aspiration of creating like a fantasy and like a and it was a lot of fun then I have to say at that time because I would have been dead I wouldn't have survived it I would have gone all in I would have been at every after hours party it would have been a disaster you see I was in bed like studying my astrology books like by 10 you know that was me I was like by 10 I was like oh no I have to go I was like I have to start early so I can go to bed early so for me it was a a different thing but um you know but I guess for me I also fell very responsible because I didn't want to one of the The Guiding lights for me I really believe was my parents because I saw how hard they work and I didn't want to disappoint them so I think part of like me being so stay on the line was like I'm not disappointing my parents I don't care if they're not here they are going to know what I'm doing like I remember part of the reason why I got so freaked out about the McQueen show and they sent me out like without a top because I couldn't speak English and they didn't even do a feeding anyway so then I was I was like oh my God if my parents see this they're GNA make me go back home and then I you know what is it like when you go internet but there was no internet in 1997 19 it wasn't so thank God because they didn't even saw that otherwi they would have been like what what are you doing I be like I don't know and you have five siblings right I have five sisters I'm a middle child I have two older sisters and two younger sisters and I'm a twin MH in the middle so we like the the sandwich like the cheese in the sandwich being Brazilian uh you're connected to the Amazon and to climate change issues and you've done a lot in terms of your environmental advocacy and clean water initiatives talk a little bit about how that began and and what that looked like now you know I um I've always been a big um basically like a child of nature I always tell my children when they ask you know what's your religion they say Mom we don't go to church I say you know what you're in church every day I say I say what do I say when people ask what my what my religion is I say love is your religion and nature is your church that's your Cathedral that's the big church that's our Temple you know so you honor your temple you love your temple you CU that's the only reason why we are all alive because this whole ecosystem is making it possible you know to grow our food to give us to provide us with all the things we need to survive so U and that's how I grew up I felt that way and especially having a grandmother that everything was from the earth you know she grew everything she ate and and uh you know the Earth was giving us the herbs that we needed to like when we fell ill and and I grew up in that way so when you grew up in that way and you grew up running around bare feet you know I come from a small village and anytime you want to eat something you grab there was like a tangerine tree or like a orange tree or is a plum tree and you just go and pick up the fruit from the tree we never bought fruits from the supermarket you know you go either you had it in your backyard or your neighbor had it or the other neighbor you know somebody had the fruit he wanted to eat you just go grab it so I think when you leave with that connection to Nature you have a different appreciation it's like so I feel like nature is just like it's it's it's me like I think we are n you know we are that and I think this connection from nature for me is not something it's just something I've always known you know is how I grew up and so for me um taking care of which I love which is nature is natural um so the but the first time I realized there was really problems happening is when I went to actually spend some time uh with the indigenous people in shingu area of the Amazon in the 2004 and that's when the first time I realized you know pesticide what's what pesticides were doing where mining was doing how they were contaminating the rivers and basically all the indigenous tribes they were living and depending on the that water they were getting sick and even though they were living very wholesomely you know with nature and you know by the impact that the big farms and different Mining and all that stuff was having um was really um having a really terrible impact in their in their their livelihoods and and that's when the first time I was like I need to do something about it and that's when I started like I had a flipflop line at the time in Brazil and we gave a percentage you know to that's actually a funny story the the the indigenous people and I was like I wonder what they would do with this with this funds but it was like a group that helped indigenous in Brazil and the funny enough when I did when I turned 40 this was in 2004 so I was like 24 cut to when I'm 40 2020 I was 40 um I wanted to do something for my 40th birthday and I was like oh I want to plant some trees in the in in the Amazon and how we going to do it so we looked around for who can help us do that and we contacted the the people that are working with the indigenous people that we knew in in Brazil and they're like we have the largest seed bank in the Amazon and we started with the money with the whole program that you gave in 2004 that money that was for the sale of the flipflops now years later they had the largest seed bank of you know the indigenous they they they collected the larger seed bank and this is how with that whole group of people we basically planted over 300,000 trees in that area of the Amazon so that was like years later so that's just how funny how life goes but for me because I was so connected to nature and I always wanted to help and my dad always said you know water is the most important thing and of course I saw that with the indigenous people because that's how they were all getting sick because all the the you know residue of Mining and and and pesticides were going into their water in my little village we were having a lot of problems with agriculture as well where there was a lot of runoffs from Roundup and all the stuff that they use in agriculture all the pesticides and stuff and it was getting a lot of people sick so we actually did the AGA limpa program in 200 I think it was 20 the N or I don't remember when we started but it was like a long time ago and I funded it and my dad who's also a sociologist worked with the university and we and we basically regenerated the whole area of the river that was kind of you know getting the water to the city and we were able to clean it it took us like a few years to do it you know it was pretty simple because all we had to do I mean it was not simple my dad is the one who did the work it was simpler for me I just kind of funded it but he was there every day he had to work with I don't know how many farmers you had to take their pie of land and kind of grow the native species Forest you know the native Forest back so then the there's a buffer there was a buffer and then the root systems could could filtrate it before all that stuff would go into the river and then that was the agal limpa project and that was one of the projects we did to clean the water and anyway so there's lots of different things but in overall thing my my thing is you know we got to take care of Mother Earth she takes care of us you know when people say to me oh we're going to save the planet I say you're that's such an ego thing you know as humans we think we're going to save anything the planets is in her own process of evolution this is a you know it's I mean dinosaurs were here before us and you know lur I mean so many different civilizations the planet will be fine that's what I always say I say please don't fool yourself I think we really saving ourselves we need to yeah I say there's no Sav we need re ourselves back yeah this is really about us protecting the resources and and taking care of what we really need for our survival because once we are gone the planet is going to regenerate I mean I've seen this over and over again the planet regenerates itself so quickly you know because it's it's just a very intelligent we need to learn from nature instead of like trying to control nature we need to just like take a humble pill and and learn from the Big Mama we've moved so far away from that and we do live in this dualistic mindset where we think there's you know our environments and then there's nature or there's us and that's outside um but really understanding that you're never out of nature as you as you said um I think it's the first point of trying to really deepen your relationship with the world in which you live we all live and share and I think when it comes to the Amazon like we all hear about deforestation and all the you know clearing that's going on for cattle grazing and the strip mining and all the stuff that you mentioned but it's an abstraction especially for you know people in North America like we know what's going on we know it's bad but I've never visited there like I've never seen it myself and you being Brazilian gives you kind of a deeper appreciation and understanding of the extent of it you know I think it's how people tell the story because I think it's a lot deeper than you know I think people like depending on the industry that wants to benefit from something that tell the story and they say okay this is what we're going to do is about the cing oh yeah it's so crazy a lot of NOS go in there and they say we're going to have an NGO because we're going to like protect Amazon but they're meantime they're the owners of the bigger paper company that comes from the Amazon they are just not you know what I mean so there it's not not all is as it seems no it's it's a very it's a wild wild west there and one of the biggest you know I've been there a few times and also done a lot of um just kind of like talking to people and understanding what happens there and a lot of the you know there's ancient Woods there and a lot of that goes to Europe so like what a lot of the the cattle for example is what they use to kind of occupy the land but what they're really after which is really valuable there is like gold and Min m you know the the rare medals the rare medals yeah the rare medals and the gold and all that stuff that's in there that's what interest this like you know the different um countries let's say they are not brail when they and because it's so corrupt unfortunately you know Brazil is very corrupt the politicians are very corrupt what happens is they sell those rights to those countries and then we have what we have and then the cattle like in the end they just kind of put them there because they have to occupy the land after they REM because they have to enter if you go there after they removed everything because they have to remove the value the value then they then they put all the cows there that's what they do so they remove the ancient wood they they remove the precious metals and and but they have to get there because if you fly over it it mean you're flying for hours over just a Green carpet so for you to have access to that you have to you can't just like clear cut because it grows so what they do to keep the the the forest from growing they just throw because it's very fertile the soil as soon as you cut because imagine that soil is been there like receiving all those back healthy bacteria from the leaves falling super fertile So within like three days you can Grass Grows Right and then in order for the trees not to keep growing because if you just leave abandon that's what's going to happen the birds are going to carry the seeds they're going to drop the seeds they're going to things are going to start growing again and then they won't have access you know so they kind of it's just like a cycle like but what is really after what they're really after it is the big stuff is the is the and and it's not unfortunately you know it's h it's so sad you know is greed mhm in the end of the day is greed and is greed by people that you know they don't have those natural resources where they are and and they understand the situation in Brazil and how corrupt the this the the system is you know with the politicians and they come and they they just buy those right they exploited they exploited in in every way but and and in the end of the day it's um I think greed is the biggest dis disease of of our time you're not going to get an argument from me on that over the last decade of Hosting this podcast my mission has been to engage in what I consider to be critically important conversations about the things that matter most in life things like Health relationships growth purpose and service while I'm immensely grateful for the growth of this show I've also come to realize that my voice alone is not enough this mission is not and cannot be a solitary Endeavor so I wanted to find a way to help amplify other meaningful voices and the result is voicing change media this beautiful Consortium of thinkers of storytellers artists and Visionaries all committed to fostering meaningful exchanges intentionally curated for those committed to the path of self-discovery this 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their best interest from a wellness perspective I think the number one thing I feel is like monkey see monkey does right I think you have to be the example you have to leave it um cuz I think whatever you say is one thing and whatever you do you they need to kind they need to whatever you say whatever you do they have to be the same thing right sympatico yeah they have to be sympatico and um and that's what it is and and I think for the kids for my kids were were a lot easier because I was home a lot with them so I was you know taking them to school every day making their breakfast you know just having my Gardens at home growing the food so when the kids would come for play dates at the house you know my kids were grabbing like everything raw cucumbers carrots like green beans they were just grabbing it from the garden and like collecting things and putting in the basket it was like a game for them and it was like oh friends are coming over why are we going to grab for the for to Door picnic outside and then so they grew up in that way you know they they uh so it was easier for me to feed them healthier food and and and and explain to them you know we always compost it we had bees at our house um so you know they they were learning about you know when The Beekeeper would come and they explain you know how much be how much honey can you take and how much money how much honey do you leave for the bees and how does a the how does a queen bee work and all the so they were they're emotionally connected they were emotionally connected they were part of that like I was as a kid so um so for them is really natural and they were also homeschooled for the last three years um during the you know the whole pandemic thing I and we moved from Boston to Tampa so um it was a whole new world for them so I I homeschooled them and now they just went back to school but I have to tell you I see a huge difference especially because my son is 14 now so he wants to kind of push back this is what I'm getting at oh yeah well how old kid well they range from 28 to 16 and each one of there's four and each of them is different um but it's a delicate dance because you know we raised our kids similarly um but they reach a certain age and part of individuation and maturing is taking ownership for your own choices and understanding what you stand for and what you don't and in order to really Define that and hone that you have to go out and kind of push the envelope and try new things otherwise it's just something you're doing because that's the way you were raised and that's what your parents told you as opposed to really owning it for yourself and so so we have learned that you have to have the brains very loose and and let them go out and do what they want to do and control the environment at home but be you know very kind of nonplused if they go and make a choice that you wouldn't make or whatever and just be curious about it and allow them the space to do that and you know you hope they come back and you know do it the way you taught them to um and sometimes they do and sometimes they don't and again every one of them is different in our case but as they get to a certain point and especially you know when they're with peers and friends and they're in social situations those things they have to learn for themselves and you have to allow them to I think it's so interesting so you have to let go a little bit oh let go and let God yeah I tell myself that is like a mantra you know and and and I I I remind myself of like my mom let me leave home she emancipated me and I was leing in Japan at 14 and there was no cell phones like I call you know can you imagine doing that for one of your children right now no and actually you know what it's so funny because I was having a conversation with my son about that he um he was complaining you know I have chores in my house you know kids have to do their chores so set the table wash the dishes you know now I make a point you know I cook at you know they come from school I'm cooking you know they so one has to set the table whoever sets the table the other has to wash the dishes and there is like you have to clean your room you have to do the basic stuff you know my daughter is doing amazingly she loves it and she's like really good and very proud of herself mom look how good I cleaned the dishes like she's really good and she's washing herself she's not putting it in the machine she wants to learn how to really wash it and and and do it right and she's very focused on it my son is like always like why do I have to do this you know so actually we had like a breakthrough this Christmas this this whole holiday season because I said he says to me I'm going to leave home when I'm 18 mom and I don't know if I'm going to go to college you didn't go to college you didn't go to school I'm going to just leave home when I'm 18 and I'm going to do this and I'm going to do that I'm like okay that's great so you're going to leave in your own apartment and who's going to cook for you and who's going to wash your dishes and who's going to clean your clothes who's going to do that and he's like for a second he's like because you're not going to have a chef and like a you know like and he was thinking for a second and I say well this is why when mommy tells you to do those things at home you know is because I want to give you more tools for your tool boox because when you learn how to do those things and they become second nature to you then you don't even have to think about it you become empowered to do it for yourself you don't depend on anybody and that's nothing it's amazing to be able to do that I said you know what made me feel so like strong and capable when I left my home because my mom taught me how to do those things so when I left home and I was leaving by myself at 14 years old I was first at 13 at 14 I moved to Japan but because I was leaving in the mod's apartment I was the only person there who knew how to clean cook iron do absolutely everything in the house because my mom taught me and it was easy for me I didn't think it was a struggle I was happy to do it and I was happy to to do it for the other girls that didn't know how to do it but if you're going to be planning on leaving on your own at 18 who do you think is going to do all those things for you so all I'm telling you is like take advantage that mommy's here for you right now and I'm able to teach you all those things and you can do it at your time I'm not telling you like at this time you have to wash the dishes so let me just help you I'm going to create a list for you and you just have to do them and you can decide if you want to wash clothes once or twice a week you can decide if you want to wash the dishes right after dinner or before you go to bed whatever you want but if you learn how to do those things you're going to see how empowered you're going to feel and the more tools we can put like the more things like the simple things like that that you can learn and that you can equip your tool box to do you're just going to be just that much like capable and and and there's nothing more fulfilling than feeling like you're able to do stuff that you're capable and then he looked at me and he's like okay mom so when we get back home you give me that list and I'm going to do it I'm like I wow I was going to say like he actually he actually receiv that I I think I have a breakthrough I think I got a breakthrough with the hormones are raging like whatever mom you know storming off like you can get you can get that reaction too that was good good job don't you think that was a good thing but but I used but you see it was a moment that I used what he said because when he thought to himself that's true how am I going to do all that stuff I said you don't want to live in like a you know a messy stinky place that is not clean like you know you want to like have you know so you need to know how to do this stuff and I think all I I see like all the things that happen in life like that like different tools we acquire you know even the job that I you know my job like all the tools that I've acquired in this job all the things that I've learned to do um that I don't know when I'm going to use I use them for my job but maybe I'm going to they going to be useful like in 20 years from my life sure but you came from very different circumstances it's the it's the Peril of success right like you and and the kid's dad like worked very hard to achieve all of these things in life and now they're reared in you know like an insane degree of privilege and it becomes more difficult to instill that kind of work ethic into somebody who you know grows up that way I think you're correct I think it becomes a lot more difficult but I think goes back to the discipline and it goes back to priorities and I think it for me it becomes about what kind of you know I I feel like I'm their Guardian because we don't possess our children right I mean we just come here they come through us but they're as much as our teachers as we are they're teachers and we're constantly learning and teaching you know in every relationship in our life and and I feel that we get this moment in time which is very short in a way that we get to influence our children because then they go I mean look at my parents they had 14 years to influence me then I was out in the world and I never went back and I keep remembering like what are all the things that if they wouldn't have taught me those things where would I be today and I'm so grateful for them for for those lessons and I feel like yes I grew up in very different circumstances than my kids and it is a bit more challenging to have them you know make their bed and wash the dishes and clean their you know when I have a person that can do it too but I make a point of me doing it so then they learn that oh Mommy's doing the dinner Mommy is making the breakfast mommy is so they're like weel you have to model and I feel like it's a different kind of modeling is it is the type of modeling that I prefer it's it's the type of modeling that I find to be the important type of modeling because that's the you know I mean what's Mo the most important thing you're going to do in your life I feel like raising children is is by far the most challenging thing I've ever done and the most uh fulfilling at the same time and you know but I feel that if if I if I don't do that if I don't equip my children to be good capable assets you know for themselves in their lives if they're not going to be then I fail I I feel yeah you haven't done your job then I haven't done my job I mean I feel that's my job I mean that's a job I do to kind of make a living so I can like you know put foot on the table and have but my real job as as I think as a as a mom and I chose to be a mom so I have to show up for my kids and I feel like this things that my you know I think is really what shaped me and what made me who I am today was definitely the upbringing that I had and and what my parents how they guided me and I feel like that's really important so I make that a priority in my life to make sure that my kids are going to have even though they don't have those same needs you know to do those things because my mom didn't have a a person she could pay to come clean the house we had to you clean the bathroom you clean the you know it was like a list all of us have to share between us who's going to do what and we grew up that way and it was kind of fun because you know I was always I always love the cleaning part you know I love organizing and cleaning I feel like a clean house is a clean mind is like a what's out is in you know if like if everything is organized outside I can think um and I tell my kids that and I feel that um if I can really get them to do those simple things in life you know and and learn those things and teach them how to be self-sufficient and capable human beings I feel like I've done my job and then I can rest and then whatever else they do the choices they make if they choose to eat the food that I fed them when they were little if now they want to go eat you know whatever or I mean it's going to be what they're going to do you know they're going to choose their friends hopefully they they choose wisely because in the end of the day they're going to be the one dealing with the consequences of their actions and I always tell them like listen you know you're going to go out there and you're going to make the Cho whatever choice you make there are going to be consequences you're dealing with those consequences me this is your life and sometimes they need to they need to make those mistakes and face those consequences like we had I mean how many mistakes that I mean I have and those those experiences are formative like I'm sure if you look in the rear view mirror and think about the panic attacks that you were having on airplanes and your inability to get into an elevator and you know this desire to jump off your balcony on some level you wouldn't wish that experience on anybody but you probably wouldn't wna change your experience either because it's set in motion this whole sensibility and way of being that you now have and I think with kids they regardless of whether they hear you in the moment or whether they go out into the world and make a bunch of mistakes like they come back yeah and whatever you taught them it's in there and at some point when they're ready or whatever like they return to it and you know and and I think to to trust that it's very important and I also feel like because if you try to overly control it you're going to drive them away absolutely and and you know I think for me I keep going back to me as a kid and the trust my parents had in me to let me go and I wouldn't be who I am today if it wasn't for them trusting in me and for all the mistakes that I've made and then had to come the other side and figure out for myself so I think it's important to give our children the Dignity of Their Own process you know because we had a dignity you know we have to go through our own process to become who we are and I think as long as they know that we are there and what what is our values you know is like those things that are important what is what is that we stand for what's important for us you know as as as as a as a value as a core value as as as a being a good human being and a good person and if you thought that your children and and they and they got it in the end of the day they're going to go out there in the world and they're going to have to make their mistakes and I I think the best thing you can do for them it's is just be there for them whenever they they come back and if they want your help you know and I think it's it's hard because you want to protect them like you can put Bobble wrap on them so like nothing will touch them and they will be safe but in the end of the day that's unrealistic and it's like it doesn't work anyway you know what I like this idea you know there's a metaphor of the butterfly imagine the caterpillar as she's transforming into becoming the butterfly she's you know eating eating all the you know until she finally starts spinning into a cocoon and and then she has to like go through that whole stous process if you ever seen like you know they turn into GP yeah but they're like but it's exactly it's just and it's really kind of like hard to like when they're coming out it's like really awkward and it looks like they're very strenuous and very difficult so if you go in there and you try to help them come out you're going to them you're going to the butterfly and she won't be able to have the strength she needs struggle is the struggle is what crucial to the the growth and you have to give them the Dignity of their own process you have to be and I and I keep reminding myself I cannot take away that opportunity for them because my parents gave me the opportunity for me to go through my own challenges and I grew and and I want my kids to have that same opportunity because whoever they're going to become is going to be based on what their choice is and hopefully I gave them enough good examples and and and good um values where they would make the choices that is right for them you know what is it that you want people to understand or take away from the new book and and how you are modeling this lifestyle um whether it's dietary changes Lifestyle Changes uh movement practices how can somebody who is interested in kind of leveling up across the board begin the process of of making those changes in their life you know it's funny you know because when I decided to do a cookbook I'm the farthest thing there is from a chef let me tell you something I I am not a chef let me just like let's be honest you've got a private Chef in home that person is taking care of everything not anymore I used to you don't anymore no I don't I don't it's no the last two years I don't you're cooking your own meals yes I'm cooking my own meals yeah I I grew up there way and I want like I told you like my priority is showing my kids what I believe it's important for them and and and I can't I can't say oh this is important and then I have and I'm not doing it you know what I mean so it has to be cohesive right and and I think that for me um really being like living what I believe is very important and I was showing my kids that this is important to me like the only way I'm going to show them that is by doing that so yes I had chefs and this is how I learn how to cook a lot of the things a lot of the recipes in the book are like inspired by the things that I created with the chefs that I throughout the years I had the opportunity to you know to really work with Incredible people incredible Chef people that love food as much as I do because I love food um but was really an idea for me to look I can say go and meditate go and exercise you know I believe meditation I believe rest I believe um exercise I believe nutrition all of those things are extremely important for you to be able to take kind of ownership of your health and really take care of yourself and have and work on just having a more clear mind and just feeling more connected to yourself I think all of those things are different aspects of it but the reason about the cookbook is quite frankly I was seeing kids were coming to our house and in play dates and and moms will come and be like how did you get my kid to eat broccoli or roasted vegetables or and it was like so simple and I was like oh maybe we can share how to make some simple recipes that are super easy you can make it like in 10 minutes and you know moms some you know you just sometimes feel overwhelmed and I know because life is busy there's so so much going on so I was like how can I help in this way and also I feel like food is a perfect time for you to practice being present and mindful because you can eat like on a rush and not being present and the food have a one effect in your body or you can do something which is what I talk about in the book is like every time I look at my food not only the act of preparing your food there so much loves and you're touching the food and you're connecting with your food that's one thing but even if you're not the one cooking your food just to take a moment to bless your food to acknowledge that that is something that is alive that you're taking it and you're that's also your source of life you know so it's kind of like connecting to the food in that way I think it it does something because everything is energy so you're having a transfer of energy with something and with the intention that you're eating it has a different I I feel huge you know when I start doing that does make a difference how he has a different just being present and being connected to what you're doing having gratitude for that moment and you get to do that three times a day you know I mean now I have a juice once a day but I still blast my juice but it's just kind of like it's just this book what I would like to to to for people to take is like it can be really simple it doesn't have to be complicated to to eat healthy and really like if you have plans you know my mom taught me you know since I was a kid like no food waste so how can we organize our meals so can there's a big thing about like reducing waste yeah there for me that's huge and also like me planning like if you're going to buy because or you know food sourcing that's huge it's not about having something with a lot of condiments and a lot of stuff it's just like keep it simple but buying really great quality products like if you can do that and then instead of like because a lot of people are like oh and then you buy organic and then you throw it out because it's like you know it spoils much faster and I'm like yeah but if you have a 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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjK5ahIgsHA	4,193	rjK5ahIgsHA	2024-03-25 00:00:00	the choices that you're making are really either supporting you or not straight from the pages of Victoria Secret please welcome jaelle bunin gazelle bunin gazelle has walked in nearly 500 fashion shows and great the covers of more than 1,200 different magazines on paper like you're perhaps highly unrelatable you know what it is it's a character that's the job I do to kind of make a living so I can like you know put foot on the table raising children is is by far the most challenging thing I've ever done it's a different kind of modeling is the type of modeling that I prefer food is a perfect time for you to practice being present and mindful because it can be really simple it doesn't have to be complicated to eat healthy nature is just like it's me instead of like trying to control nature we need to just like take a humble pill and and learn from the Big Mama [Music] today's episode is brought to you by the awesome organizations that make this show [Music] possible so nice to meet you nice to meet you too so excited to have you here today yes when this opportunity presented itself I was like of course I want to talk to Jazelle and then I had my own like sort of mini panic attack we're going to get into panic attacks I'm like what could I possibly talk to this person about the alltime great super model of all time everybody knows this on paper like you're perhaps highly unrelatable but then the more you dig into your story and the more I kind of learned about your Arc and your past and what brought you to this place there's so much that's deeply relatable and your kind of transformation story is remarkably similar to mine although you did yours at like 23 I was 40 um but there's so much in there so I thought it would be cool to kind of um talk a little bit about what it was like what happened and how you made these changes in your life because I think you're in this interesting new season right now where despite the fact that you've been this Wellness Advocate and wellness Warrior for a long time my sense is that there's a there's a more full Embrace of of that now with kind of how you see yourself and what's important to you a well thank you for the introduction you know the funny thing is I you know people's you know what I did for a living is something that kind of just happened to me at 14 years old you know it was it was like hey do you want to be a model and I thought oh I can help my family you know I can do make a living and and help you know I have five sisters and and all that so modeling to me is something that is um an opportunity that came along like I think in life you have these opportunities that either you take that train and then see where it goes you know and I never even believed that this was going to take me and I was going to be doing this for almost 30 years you know it's it's one of those things that I was like oh I'll start doing this job and you know send money home and help my sisters go through school and do all that and um and maybe in five years you know I'll get a house because I didn't even go to school you know I I I was emancipated at 14 yeah you were in Tokyo at 14 I was living in Japan without speaking English and J or Japanese and that's when I when I start learning the language of of of energy you know what I mean because you don't have to understand the language you just have to feel you know something there's a lot more that has been said without words you know sure so I start learning about that um but I think that I went through this journey of modeling which was something I thought was going to last five years and I was just going to help my family out for a little bit and it just kept going you know it just kept happening you know I I didn't even think you can have longevity in this career because it's not what I what I saw really around me happening um but you know I kept it kept working out so I kept doing it and it was kind of a Mindless thing you know when you got in the hamster wheel and I think we do that sometimes in life and you're so young you don't know and you Liv the fast life and all of that so in my early 20s I um developed you know anxiety and panic attacks and all that because you know when you drink a bottle of wine and that because you like I used to be a smoker so I smoke I can't even imagine I used to smoke it feels like a whole different life you know but um it was the late 90s and there was a lot of um drugs and fashion and all that so I thought I was saying just because I was like having some wine and smoking cigarettes everybody was doing way worse things than yeah I'm sure you've seen a lot I've seen a lot yeah that's a whole other show about that that's a whole other story but yeah so um you know so that was the beginning for me to start reconnecting with myself because I think when I was 14 and I got that train my only focus was like how can I be the best that I can do on this and and and that was my focus and and I didn't meure any sacrifice he was like if I had to work 360 days a year and I felt like I couldn't say no because people were giving me a chance and then I was like in this really overdrive uh and burn down my adrenals I found out later when I found this amazing natural Doctor Who told me like listen you don't have any more adrenal they're shut down because you burn them basically I'm like but I'm only 22 you know so um basically I had to change the habits that I you know smoking a pack of cigarettes drinking alcohol every day to myself down coffee all day to keep myself up and also going from you know one time zone to the next I was three days in Paris two days in London one day in New York going back to you know my life was in a living in a suitcase and of course your nervous system is going to freak out you know and the way I was eating it was very you know anything that was in front of me I was just like not mindful about anything you know I was just kind of um like a Workhorse and when that happen to me is when I you know I come from a family that is very my my grandmother had a tea for everything so we never had we were not the kind of you know you get sick let me see this herbal remedy that we you know so yeah you grew up in kind of a small village right in Brazil your grandmother was cultivating herbs and she was the person that everyone would go to for their remedy so you have this sort of background and connection you know with the Earth exactly that you know is kind of lingering in the back of your mind when you're just you know hammering nails and and you know drinking wine and living that life but you're young it's like that's kind of what your 20s are for kind of and you're you're on this like Jet Plane I mean figuratively and literally like your career's taking off on top of that a people pleasing tendency where you feel like you have to say yes to everything and you're just go go go go go yeah and and I think but that was a big wakeup call for me because I think sometimes you know you have to reach rock bottom and when I had that those anxiety and they start becoming like almost CRI because I couldn't get on planes he was just you know I was going to all these doctors and they were like you have to take this stuff and I was just afraid of taking anything because I've never taken anything you know I was a there was a t for for this there you know my grandmother wasn't there so finally you know I wasn't going to take any medication because just the idea of taking something I was like I was normal before how can I go back being what I was you know like I I I didn't have these issues so what's happening long story short I found this doctor I had to replace my habits it was that simple I had to replace these habits that had created the reality I was living at that moment which was you know um really killing me in in so many ways you know killing my spirit killing my and and I replace it with good habits so now instead of smoking cigarettes and having a mocha frappuccino in the morning I'll would go out and do breath work and go out for a run and you know I replace in one day I gave up everything because he he looked at me he said jelle he called me Adrenalina he says do you want to live and I said I do he's like so we going to CH change my diet and that's for the first time in my life that I realized that I I was really like the one who got myself there and I was the only person who could get myself out by the choices that I was making so I had to take full responsibility for what I had created but it was in my power only in my power to change that there were no doctors nobody who was going to save me I had to change um you know the choices I was making and I and I did that and it was incredible because after over a year and a half like really struggling with anxiety and panic attacks and all that within 3 months I was like I never had another incident and it was you know and and once you start meditating I mean at that point this was 20 years ago right it wasn't like people were talking about meditation and yoga any other that um it was just um you know when you sit in silence and you and you reflect which is what we don't really give ourselves time to do because the world is so fastpaced and everything is catching your attention is trying to throw you off your Center you know everything is so busy it's like an overload of information to have that space to go inside and reflect and look and really take a step back I think that was the biggest blessing of my life so really I think what could have killed me is what gave me a whole new life and it was amazing because since then like everything changed like I realized that food is my medicine I realized that I am the director of my own movie that I'm creating my reality based on the choices that I'm making but what I'm choosing to not the people I'm choosing to have around in my life but what type of energy what kind of thoughts I allow to what am I feeding you know what kind of thoughts am I so all of that so that became like a big um changing of seasons for me in my early 20s what were those first couple weeks like if you went completely cold turkey on all of these bad habits I think it was like a drug addict I never was a I guess I was a drug etic only legal drugs because I guess alcohol is a drug and so is cigarettes nicotine and all that and caffeine and all that but they're like socially accepted but I tell you that I had the worst migraine I mean I felt like the I mean maybe that's what a person who's going like you have gone to to rehab right so I'm I don't know what you felt I would love to hear but I for me it was like right I mean I don't know about that sub it's the only way I know how to do it though I don't understand how people kind of phase out of stuff like you have to for me you have to draw the line and step over it and it's going to suck and you're going to be uncomfortable for a while while um but you know that on the other side of that lies all of this opportunity and possibility um but uh and that's what happened to me I think there was that because what I knew I knew that what I was and what if you do what you've always done you're going to get what you've always gotten is that simple and what I realized at that moment that what I what I created for myself was not what I wanted I needed to a drastic change and then he was like draw the line stopped everything in one day and the migraines and all of that like the consequences of what I had done I had to deal with them you know it took me like two weeks I think I was like having the worst migraines just because I didn't know if it was the nicotine the caffeine the alcohol I don't know what it was but it was all of it together and um but then it was amazing because from that experience I I became so much stronger and I and there are lots of different things that happen in my life after that I feel like every time we get tested it's like the Super Mario you know like the little video game when you go to do the big boss like you go through all the phases and you go to level one the big boss is like one it's okay to defeat that one but then the second one is like a tough for big boss and then the third one is you know it's like it's life I feel like that's what life is you get like the new tools so you get equipped and then you go to the next challenge that is a bigger one and then is a bigger one I feel like that's why we're here you know to keep seeing how we can expand how much more we can to grow to evolve to expand to see how strong and how creative and how you know how can how much we can experience of all this wonder how did you how did you plug that into the fast-paced life of of your modeling career because it's one thing if you're living a more kind of grounded atome lifestyle where you can control your food and your environment a little bit better but when you're flying all over the world and you're on these sets and there's craft service and it's junk food like you have to be way ahead of the curve to prepare everything to have everything kind of organized for yourself because how do you you if you're in just hotels all over the place and you arrive at midnight like how are you getting your you know like how did so how did you manage all of that you have to be very discipline I think you know when I I did this book called lessons and um and it was like everything starts to discipline that was like my first chapter and that's what I believe you have to decide you have and then you have to have the discipline to follow through so once you realize that these choices that you are making are having a positive impact in your life you want to continue doing them you know what I mean you don't want to fall back and just something that it didn't feel good that's your past like you don't want to go back there again so you're going to stick to the plan like this is what's working and this is what made me feel good again so I'm going to stick to this and of course it's not 100% you have to be compassionate with yourself too and say you I'll be like you know life is hard as it is you need to bit yourself in the head sometimes if you go and you oh you know I had like um I was exhausted I had like a banana bread or something or I had you know but I think you realize that the choices that you're making are are really either supporting you or not you know supporting you living the life that making you feel good and living the life that you want and is taking to the direction where you want to go or not and then it's just kind of an easier choice to make right and then I feel like when I go to the jobs you know I got to the point in my life where people know how I eat and you know I can tell people like listen this is what I want I want you got extensive riter yeah I kind of you know because I was already working for so long so I I have you know I got to the I guess really the privilege to be able to to kind of say like this is the kind of things that I would like to eat so please at the job you know if you're working 10 12 hours in a studio can we have these things available you know what I mean so then it was easier to keep the food healthy you know um because I think that's so important and then just to say I feel like and then saying no to those things you know like coffee or alcohol or things that I was just so used to because I was still in that same environment the environment hadn't changed I had changed but all of that was around me still but then it was just a choice of saying you know I feel great and I haven't drank alcohol in over two years now too this is something you know I even when I went back drinking after it was very moderate you know I was still like like I would drink socially sometimes you know peer pressure sometimes like oh come on have a drink you know and then you like feel like especially in my world I mean everyone pretty much is like socially having a drink so I would be like okay I'll have a drink but then he got to a point that I was like and that was like 20 years later because it just happened over two years ago I was like I don't want to drink like I don't care what anyone thinks and I don't care if they have Fe peer pressure I'm going to have my Min tea my cam tea and if they want to drink I'm not making anyone feel bad about drinking they can do whatever they want this is their Temple you know this is my temple I get to choose and they shouldn't make me feel bad that I don't want to you know so um then I kind of stood up for myself I think that happens after your 40s like you care less about what other people think and um wait till you're 50 oh my God I can't wait for that I'm gonna like he's he's gonna be amazing but I think the thing you mentioned you mentioned like being directed and and and being kind of dedicated to your path and and and I feel like that's the underappreciated aspect of of understanding you and your career a lot of people arrive in New York City every single day with a similar dream or ambition that you had when you were a young person and you arrived there and a lot of those people are very beautiful you're beautiful but that doesn't tell the story of how you translated like an opportunity into the career that you had and I think between the lines there is an intense work ethic and a very intentional approach to what you were doing like how did you apply those skills like what is the differentiator between you and the career that you've enjoyed versus you know the other beautiful people who aren't enjoying the same kind of career you can't and you're not allowed to say luck or you're you know no I don't believe I don't believe in luck I don't believe in luck I believe in hard work and but I believe in um I mean I think discipline but I also believe that I always treated everyone the way I like to be treated and I've always was appreciative I have this immense sense of gratitude for just being there so even though you know people were like oh you know you you know when I was 19 I was like I want the model of you know the model of the year and everybody's like how does it feel to be it didn't really it doesn't matter to me because quite frankly I never saw myself as a motel it's just not something I didn't drink the Kool-Aid I didn't believe because I was a model or because I I became successful in this job like I was better than anybody I just and I didn't believe that I believe that I just got to learn that craft really well and I understood what the job entail and like I learned how to do the job really well but by no means is what defined me it's just something I did it's not it's not who I am I don't know if you know it's like I go there I had this opportunity at you know 13 14 years old when I finally left home and and and and St pursued this career that really I thought it was just really I did it for the money I did it because I was like what else am I going to do at 14 years old that I can help my family you know I don't have any other jobs that are offering me an opportunity so I'll take this one so for me it was really like a job so I never like it didn't kind of Define me I kind of did it my way like I never became like you know it was like oh it needs to be glamorous I was never glamorous I'm a jeans and t-shirt type of girl like I if I needed to go to parties or hang out with this type of people I never did any of that like I went there I did my job I did the best that I could I never was late in my life for my jobs like never showed up like late I was there before everyone I was there 100% you know I I I just wanted to make sure that if people were booking me and they they were trusting in me that I was going to show up and deliver you know and I think that's kind of what it was I did it my way you know and it didn't broke me kind of Cu I saw you know people in this business you know you can lose yourself because if you drink the Kool-Aid if you start thinking you know like you lose yourself in it I never lost myself it was just a job and it's still just a job I can't even believe I'm still doing it sometimes I go in and I do it you it's not it's not what I do full- time anymore but it's just one of those things that you know I got to do this I got to make a career out of it and got to make a great living and help my family and I I have wonderful you know I got to travel the world and learn different languages and and and all of that and that's how I see it I don't see it as a you know I don't see myself you're not defined by it you're not you're not caught up in in the kind of dark underbelly of that very strange world this whole world is like almost like a parallel reality for me you know what I mean if something is like a switch on button I go there I do my job I take my picture I turn it off I go home and I have the same friends I have my my family I'm very close with my family but I think you're very good at seeing opportunities when they arise and you tell a little story in in in the new book about being 14 and on route to Tokyo and your parents gave you your dad gave you a little bit of money that was intended for getting a cab from that's the first day arve in s Paulo and instead of using that money oh it was you were super young right so you had a little bit of money to take a tab and you had the presence of mind to say this money would be better spent buying some clothes so I can do better in my auditions or whatnot um which isn't like that's not normal like that's somebody who's thinking ahead who's planning long term who's understanding that they have an opportunity in front of them and trying to figure out how to make the most out of it with limited resources and I think that speaks to or says a lot about your sensibility or your perspective as a business person yeah I mean it's so interesting to see it that way I mean I for me at that moment in time you know I I I just felt like I did something else than that you know that was one of the things and now that you're saying that I actually did that throughout because I bought my first apartment when I was 19 years old and when everybody was buying you know designer bags all the models and you know like remember I didn't know I was going to last in this business I thought like I didn't go to school I didn't go to high school I didn't you know I I left I I went to work and whenever I go I go back I thought I was going to be a farmer or something because I just always love the land and but I I didn't think like you know like where am I going to go from here so I have to make sure that I have at least a place to live I'm a cancer so I want to have like a stable home and when I was 19 you know people start flying me first class because I was like the model of the year right saw all the clients now are paying me first class I was exchanging those tickets for Coach classes because I was every two three days in a different country and instead of paying um my you know a rent in an apartment I pay I put down a down payment for an apartment and then I was paying my mortgage instead of paying rent and you're 19 and I was 19 so I I own my first apartment as 19 years old it was like a in in New York City it was like facing a wall of another building mind you he was like a very apartment you know that does require some maturity and some long-term thinking well well because I just thought to myself like you know I don't know how long I'm going to stay here you know I i' I at least I have to have a place to live if I like I'm not going to live empty-handed you know what I mean like what do I care about a bag or like what is that going to give me it's not going to be a roof over my head I need to make sure that I have that I can spend in the right places but I think that sense came from my mother because we grew up you know my mother was a cashier in the bank my father had like lots of different jobs like he had a real estate job but he was you know my mom they literally we we were like really simple people and grew up in two bedrooms with six girls and and and money was all always tight so I learned how to is the same thing in the book is like how do you prepare how do you not waste food I mean everything is like I think in my life I was kind of like raised that way you know what I mean kind of plan ahead like for tomorrow so you make sure that you have like food for everyone like like we're going to reuse the meat we cook on the barbecue and we're going to put it in the rice we're going to have carera so we're going to have an abundant meal because we have the rest of the you know what I mean it's kind of like that it's like you put money in the bank so when you retire you have something to to live off when you can no longer work the same thing I feel about food like you eat the right food so when you're older you you're able to have the energy and your body is functioning because you made the right choices so for me it's the same thing you know it's kind of making like just being kind of what is necessary here like do I really need this what do I need more do I need a roof over my head or do I need this this bags and this stuff do I need to take a taxi when I arrive to the model apartment when I'm 14 even though I never been to the city or can I take the subway and save the money so I can get the clothes for the casting and maybe I can get a job it's like it's kind of thinking like with the resources that I have right now what is the smartest how is the smartest way to use them I guess if you're like me never without a water bottle let's get it right people allow me to rock your world with my new favorite toy that's actually not a toy at all it's a non-negotiable essential camel backs Podium steel 100% % leak proof water bottle emphasis on leak proof for all 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it's you know what it is it's a character I always call call it her because I think being a MTO what I understood as being a motto is to play a character in a silent movie you know you get to experience all these different charact all these different aspects of of of being a woman let's say because one designer wants you to be more androgynous you know one designer was you know I remember diding a Balin Saga campaign I was like they made me a boy I was like literally like a week I was like a man a boy and in one I was like the sexy Versace campaign like you know like with big hair and like you know pushup bra you know so it was kind of like I got to play from the the androgynous girl to the very sexy to the tomb boy like I got to you know I mean you should see I don't know if you ever saw my book the other one that was like the 20 years I did a 20 well I watched the video that you did where you kind of went through it and you were talking about what was going on with you with each of those photographs yeah so it's it's it's it's really about kind of playing these different roles but it's just instead of you talking like you would be in a movie you're just you got to make the image that picture that one capture image to to it's a performance art it's a performance art but it's such a weird world I know that like Alexander McQueen he was like he was really the Catalyst right he was the guy who gave me the chance you know he gave me the the chance but when you watch his shows or some of these other shows like the designs are are stunning and gorgeous but they're also totally inaccessible it's like who wears this does anybody is there anybody in the world that even wear I mean if you're Lady Gaga I guess or somebody like that but like yeah it's a fantasy and so it's curious like how does that translate into I guess it's just how you feel and how you think about a particular designer or a brand and not so much about directly selling those designs to the person who's going to the department store or the boutique right yeah they're not thinking I don't even understand the business model of the whole thing yeah I me neither to be honest with you but I think it's a really I mean I think it has changed a lot uh since I started like I see a big shift because I think before there was a lot more creativity there was allowed a lot more creativity I think you know McQueen or JN galano you know the shows and stuff like you were like in a world like sure and the photographers being rock stars themselves oh yeah and and it was a I think it was a moment in time where there was so much less about selling but it was much more about the the inspiration and the aspir aspiring you know the aspiration of creating like a fantasy and like a and it was a lot of fun then I have to say at that time because I would have been dead I wouldn't have survived it I would have gone all in I would have been at every after hours party it would have been a disaster you see I was in bed like studying my astrology books like by 10 you know that was me I was like by 10 I was like oh no I have to go I was like I have to start early so I can go to bed early so for me it was a a different thing but um you know but I guess for me I also fell very responsible because I didn't want to one of the The Guiding lights for me I really believe was my parents because I saw how hard they work and I didn't want to disappoint them so I think part of like me being so stay on the line was like I'm not disappointing my parents I don't care if they're not here they are going to know what I'm doing like I remember part of the reason why I got so freaked out about the McQueen show and they sent me out like without a top because I couldn't speak English and they didn't even do a feeding anyway so then I was I was like oh my God if my parents see this they're GNA make me go back home and then I you know what is it like when you go internet but there was no internet in 1997 19 it wasn't so thank God because they didn't even saw that otherwi they would have been like what what are you doing I be like I don't know and you have five siblings right I have five sisters I'm a middle child I have two older sisters and two younger sisters and I'm a twin MH in the middle so we like the the sandwich like the cheese in the sandwich being Brazilian uh you're connected to the Amazon and to climate change issues and you've done a lot in terms of your environmental advocacy and clean water initiatives talk a little bit about how that began and and what that looked like now you know I um I've always been a big um basically like a child of nature I always tell my children when they ask you know what's your religion they say Mom we don't go to church I say you know what you're in church every day I say I say what do I say when people ask what my what my religion is I say love is your religion and nature is your church that's your Cathedral that's the big church that's our Temple you know so you honor your temple you love your temple you CU that's the only reason why we are all alive because this whole ecosystem is making it possible you know to grow our food to give us to provide us with all the things we need to survive so U and that's how I grew up I felt that way and especially having a grandmother that everything was from the earth you know she grew everything she ate and and uh you know the Earth was giving us the herbs that we needed to like when we fell ill and and I grew up in that way so when you grew up in that way and you grew up running around bare feet you know I come from a small village and anytime you want to eat something you grab there was like a tangerine tree or like a orange tree or is a plum tree and you just go and pick up the fruit from the tree we never bought fruits from the supermarket you know you go either you had it in your backyard or your neighbor had it or the other neighbor you know somebody had the fruit he wanted to eat you just go grab it so I think when you leave with that connection to Nature you have a different appreciation it's like so I feel like nature is just like it's it's it's me like I think we are n you know we are that and I think this connection from nature for me is not something it's just something I've always known you know is how I grew up and so for me um taking care of which I love which is nature is natural um so the but the first time I realized there was really problems happening is when I went to actually spend some time uh with the indigenous people in shingu area of the Amazon in the 2004 and that's when the first time I realized you know pesticide what's what pesticides were doing where mining was doing how they were contaminating the rivers and basically all the indigenous tribes they were living and depending on the that water they were getting sick and even though they were living very wholesomely you know with nature and you know by the impact that the big farms and different Mining and all that stuff was having um was really um having a really terrible impact in their in their their livelihoods and and that's when the first time I was like I need to do something about it and that's when I started like I had a flipflop line at the time in Brazil and we gave a percentage you know to that's actually a funny story the the the indigenous people and I was like I wonder what they would do with this with this funds but it was like a group that helped indigenous in Brazil and the funny enough when I did when I turned 40 this was in 2004 so I was like 24 cut to when I'm 40 2020 I was 40 um I wanted to do something for my 40th birthday and I was like oh I want to plant some trees in the in in the Amazon and how we going to do it so we looked around for who can help us do that and we contacted the the people that are working with the indigenous people that we knew in in Brazil and they're like we have the largest seed bank in the Amazon and we started with the money with the whole program that you gave in 2004 that money that was for the sale of the flipflops now years later they had the largest seed bank of you know the indigenous they they they collected the larger seed bank and this is how with that whole group of people we basically planted over 300,000 trees in that area of the Amazon so that was like years later so that's just how funny how life goes but for me because I was so connected to nature and I always wanted to help and my dad always said you know water is the most important thing and of course I saw that with the indigenous people because that's how they were all getting sick because all the the you know residue of Mining and and and pesticides were going into their water in my little village we were having a lot of problems with agriculture as well where there was a lot of runoffs from Roundup and all the stuff that they use in agriculture all the pesticides and stuff and it was getting a lot of people sick so we actually did the AGA limpa program in 200 I think it was 20 the N or I don't remember when we started but it was like a long time ago and I funded it and my dad who's also a sociologist worked with the university and we and we basically regenerated the whole area of the river that was kind of you know getting the water to the city and we were able to clean it it took us like a few years to do it you know it was pretty simple because all we had to do I mean it was not simple my dad is the one who did the work it was simpler for me I just kind of funded it but he was there every day he had to work with I don't know how many farmers you had to take their pie of land and kind of grow the native species Forest you know the native Forest back so then the there's a buffer there was a buffer and then the root systems could could filtrate it before all that stuff would go into the river and then that was the agal limpa project and that was one of the projects we did to clean the water and anyway so there's lots of different things but in overall thing my my thing is you know we got to take care of Mother Earth she takes care of us you know when people say to me oh we're going to save the planet I say you're that's such an ego thing you know as humans we think we're going to save anything the planets is in her own process of evolution this is a you know it's I mean dinosaurs were here before us and you know lur I mean so many different civilizations the planet will be fine that's what I always say I say please don't fool yourself I think we really saving ourselves we need to yeah I say there's no Sav we need re ourselves back yeah this is really about us protecting the resources and and taking care of what we really need for our survival because once we are gone the planet is going to regenerate I mean I've seen this over and over again the planet regenerates itself so quickly you know because it's it's just a very intelligent we need to learn from nature instead of like trying to control nature we need to just like take a humble pill and and learn from the Big Mama we've moved so far away from that and we do live in this dualistic mindset where we think there's you know our environments and then there's nature or there's us and that's outside um but really understanding that you're never out of nature as you as you said um I think it's the first point of trying to really deepen your relationship with the world in which you live we all live and share and I think when it comes to the Amazon like we all hear about deforestation and all the you know clearing that's going on for cattle grazing and the strip mining and all the stuff that you mentioned but it's an abstraction especially for you know people in North America like we know what's going on we know it's bad but I've never visited there like I've never seen it myself and you being Brazilian gives you kind of a deeper appreciation and understanding of the extent of it you know I think it's how people tell the story because I think it's a lot deeper than you know I think people like depending on the industry that wants to benefit from something that tell the story and they say okay this is what we're going to do is about the cing oh yeah it's so crazy a lot of NOS go in there and they say we're going to have an NGO because we're going to like protect Amazon but they're meantime they're the owners of the bigger paper company that comes from the Amazon they are just not you know what I mean so there it's not not all is as it seems no it's it's a very it's a wild wild west there and one of the biggest you know I've been there a few times and also done a lot of um just kind of like talking to people and understanding what happens there and a lot of the you know there's ancient Woods there and a lot of that goes to Europe so like what a lot of the the cattle for example is what they use to kind of occupy the land but what they're really after which is really valuable there is like gold and Min m you know the the rare medals the rare medals yeah the rare medals and the gold and all that stuff that's in there that's what interest this like you know the different um countries let's say they are not brail when they and because it's so corrupt unfortunately you know Brazil is very corrupt the politicians are very corrupt what happens is they sell those rights to those countries and then we have what we have and then the cattle like in the end they just kind of put them there because they have to occupy the land after they REM because they have to enter if you go there after they removed everything because they have to remove the value the value then they then they put all the cows there that's what they do so they remove the ancient wood they they remove the precious metals and and but they have to get there because if you fly over it it mean you're flying for hours over just a Green carpet so for you to have access to that you have to you can't just like clear cut because it grows so what they do to keep the the the forest from growing they just throw because it's very fertile the soil as soon as you cut because imagine that soil is been there like receiving all those back healthy bacteria from the leaves falling super fertile So within like three days you can Grass Grows Right and then in order for the trees not to keep growing because if you just leave abandon that's what's going to happen the birds are going to carry the seeds they're going to drop the seeds they're going to things are going to start growing again and then they won't have access you know so they kind of it's just like a cycle like but what is really after what they're really after it is the big stuff is the is the and and it's not unfortunately you know it's h it's so sad you know is greed mhm in the end of the day is greed and is greed by people that you know they don't have those natural resources where they are and and they understand the situation in Brazil and how corrupt the this the the system is you know with the politicians and they come and they they just buy those right they exploited they exploited in in every way but and and in the end of the day it's um I think greed is the biggest dis disease of of our time you're not going to get an argument from me on that over the last decade of Hosting this podcast my mission has been to engage in what I consider to be critically important conversations about the things that matter most in life things like Health relationships growth purpose and service while I'm immensely grateful for the growth of this show I've also come to realize that my voice alone is not enough this mission is not and cannot be a solitary Endeavor so I wanted to find a way to help amplify other meaningful voices and the result is voicing change media this beautiful Consortium of thinkers of storytellers artists and Visionaries all committed to fostering meaningful exchanges intentionally curated for those committed to the path of self-discovery this 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their best interest from a wellness perspective I think the number one thing I feel is like monkey see monkey does right I think you have to be the example you have to leave it um cuz I think whatever you say is one thing and whatever you do you they need to kind they need to whatever you say whatever you do they have to be the same thing right sympatico yeah they have to be sympatico and um and that's what it is and and I think for the kids for my kids were were a lot easier because I was home a lot with them so I was you know taking them to school every day making their breakfast you know just having my Gardens at home growing the food so when the kids would come for play dates at the house you know my kids were grabbing like everything raw cucumbers carrots like green beans they were just grabbing it from the garden and like collecting things and putting in the basket it was like a game for them and it was like oh friends are coming over why are we going to grab for the for to Door picnic outside and then so they grew up in that way you know they they uh so it was easier for me to feed them healthier food and and and and explain to them you know we always compost it we had bees at our house um so you know they they were learning about you know when The Beekeeper would come and they explain you know how much be how much honey can you take and how much money how much honey do you leave for the bees and how does a the how does a queen bee work and all the so they were they're emotionally connected they were emotionally connected they were part of that like I was as a kid so um so for them is really natural and they were also homeschooled for the last three years um during the you know the whole pandemic thing I and we moved from Boston to Tampa so um it was a whole new world for them so I I homeschooled them and now they just went back to school but I have to tell you I see a huge difference especially because my son is 14 now so he wants to kind of push back this is what I'm getting at oh yeah well how old kid well they range from 28 to 16 and each one of there's four and each of them is different um but it's a delicate dance because you know we raised our kids similarly um but they reach a certain age and part of individuation and maturing is taking ownership for your own choices and understanding what you stand for and what you don't and in order to really Define that and hone that you have to go out and kind of push the envelope and try new things otherwise it's just something you're doing because that's the way you were raised and that's what your parents told you as opposed to really owning it for yourself and so so we have learned that you have to have the brains very loose and and let them go out and do what they want to do and control the environment at home but be you know very kind of nonplused if they go and make a choice that you wouldn't make or whatever and just be curious about it and allow them the space to do that and you know you hope they come back and you know do it the way you taught them to um and sometimes they do and sometimes they don't and again every one of them is different in our case but as they get to a certain point and especially you know when they're with peers and friends and they're in social situations those things they have to learn for themselves and you have to allow them to I think it's so interesting so you have to let go a little bit oh let go and let God yeah I tell myself that is like a mantra you know and and and I I I remind myself of like my mom let me leave home she emancipated me and I was leing in Japan at 14 and there was no cell phones like I call you know can you imagine doing that for one of your children right now no and actually you know what it's so funny because I was having a conversation with my son about that he um he was complaining you know I have chores in my house you know kids have to do their chores so set the table wash the dishes you know now I make a point you know I cook at you know they come from school I'm cooking you know they so one has to set the table whoever sets the table the other has to wash the dishes and there is like you have to clean your room you have to do the basic stuff you know my daughter is doing amazingly she loves it and she's like really good and very proud of herself mom look how good I cleaned the dishes like she's really good and she's washing herself she's not putting it in the machine she wants to learn how to really wash it and and and do it right and she's very focused on it my son is like always like why do I have to do this you know so actually we had like a breakthrough this Christmas this this whole holiday season because I said he says to me I'm going to leave home when I'm 18 mom and I don't know if I'm going to go to college you didn't go to college you didn't go to school I'm going to just leave home when I'm 18 and I'm going to do this and I'm going to do that I'm like okay that's great so you're going to leave in your own apartment and who's going to cook for you and who's going to wash your dishes and who's going to clean your clothes who's going to do that and he's like for a second he's like because you're not going to have a chef and like a you know like and he was thinking for a second and I say well this is why when mommy tells you to do those things at home you know is because I want to give you more tools for your tool boox because when you learn how to do those things and they become second nature to you then you don't even have to think about it you become empowered to do it for yourself you don't depend on anybody and that's nothing it's amazing to be able to do that I said you know what made me feel so like strong and capable when I left my home because my mom taught me how to do those things so when I left home and I was leaving by myself at 14 years old I was first at 13 at 14 I moved to Japan but because I was leaving in the mod's apartment I was the only person there who knew how to clean cook iron do absolutely everything in the house because my mom taught me and it was easy for me I didn't think it was a struggle I was happy to do it and I was happy to to do it for the other girls that didn't know how to do it but if you're going to be planning on leaving on your own at 18 who do you think is going to do all those things for you so all I'm telling you is like take advantage that mommy's here for you right now and I'm able to teach you all those things and you can do it at your time I'm not telling you like at this time you have to wash the dishes so let me just help you I'm going to create a list for you and you just have to do them and you can decide if you want to wash clothes once or twice a week you can decide if you want to wash the dishes right after dinner or before you go to bed whatever you want but if you learn how to do those things you're going to see how empowered you're going to feel and the more tools we can put like the more things like the simple things like that that you can learn and that you can equip your tool box to do you're just going to be just that much like capable and and and there's nothing more fulfilling than feeling like you're able to do stuff that you're capable and then he looked at me and he's like okay mom so when we get back home you give me that list and I'm going to do it I'm like I wow I was going to say like he actually he actually receiv that I I think I have a breakthrough I think I got a breakthrough with the hormones are raging like whatever mom you know storming off like you can get you can get that reaction too that was good good job don't you think that was a good thing but but I used but you see it was a moment that I used what he said because when he thought to himself that's true how am I going to do all that stuff I said you don't want to live in like a you know a messy stinky place that is not clean like you know you want to like have you know so you need to know how to do this stuff and I think all I I see like all the things that happen in life like that like different tools we acquire you know even the job that I you know my job like all the tools that I've acquired in this job all the things that I've learned to do um that I don't know when I'm going to use I use them for my job but maybe I'm going to they going to be useful like in 20 years from my life sure but you came from very different circumstances it's the it's the Peril of success right like you and and the kid's dad like worked very hard to achieve all of these things in life and now they're reared in you know like an insane degree of privilege and it becomes more difficult to instill that kind of work ethic into somebody who you know grows up that way I think you're correct I think it becomes a lot more difficult but I think goes back to the discipline and it goes back to priorities and I think it for me it becomes about what kind of you know I I feel like I'm their Guardian because we don't possess our children right I mean we just come here they come through us but they're as much as our teachers as we are they're teachers and we're constantly learning and teaching you know in every relationship in our life and and I feel that we get this moment in time which is very short in a way that we get to influence our children because then they go I mean look at my parents they had 14 years to influence me then I was out in the world and I never went back and I keep remembering like what are all the things that if they wouldn't have taught me those things where would I be today and I'm so grateful for them for for those lessons and I feel like yes I grew up in very different circumstances than my kids and it is a bit more challenging to have them you know make their bed and wash the dishes and clean their you know when I have a person that can do it too but I make a point of me doing it so then they learn that oh Mommy's doing the dinner Mommy is making the breakfast mommy is so they're like weel you have to model and I feel like it's a different kind of modeling is it is the type of modeling that I prefer it's it's the type of modeling that I find to be the important type of modeling because that's the you know I mean what's Mo the most important thing you're going to do in your life I feel like raising children is is by far the most challenging thing I've ever done and the most uh fulfilling at the same time and you know but I feel that if if I if I don't do that if I don't equip my children to be good capable assets you know for themselves in their lives if they're not going to be then I fail I I feel yeah you haven't done your job then I haven't done my job I mean I feel that's my job I mean that's a job I do to kind of make a living so I can like you know put foot on the table and have but my real job as as I think as a as a mom and I chose to be a mom so I have to show up for my kids and I feel like this things that my you know I think is really what shaped me and what made me who I am today was definitely the upbringing that I had and and what my parents how they guided me and I feel like that's really important so I make that a priority in my life to make sure that my kids are going to have even though they don't have those same needs you know to do those things because my mom didn't have a a person she could pay to come clean the house we had to you clean the bathroom you clean the you know it was like a list all of us have to share between us who's going to do what and we grew up that way and it was kind of fun because you know I was always I always love the cleaning part you know I love organizing and cleaning I feel like a clean house is a clean mind is like a what's out is in you know if like if everything is organized outside I can think um and I tell my kids that and I feel that um if I can really get them to do those simple things in life you know and and learn those things and teach them how to be self-sufficient and capable human beings I feel like I've done my job and then I can rest and then whatever else they do the choices they make if they choose to eat the food that I fed them when they were little if now they want to go eat you know whatever or I mean it's going to be what they're going to do you know they're going to choose their friends hopefully they they choose wisely because in the end of the day they're going to be the one dealing with the consequences of their actions and I always tell them like listen you know you're going to go out there and you're going to make the Cho whatever choice you make there are going to be consequences you're dealing with those consequences me this is your life and sometimes they need to they need to make those mistakes and face those consequences like we had I mean how many mistakes that I mean I have and those those experiences are formative like I'm sure if you look in the rear view mirror and think about the panic attacks that you were having on airplanes and your inability to get into an elevator and you know this desire to jump off your balcony on some level you wouldn't wish that experience on anybody but you probably wouldn't wna change your experience either because it's set in motion this whole sensibility and way of being that you now have and I think with kids they regardless of whether they hear you in the moment or whether they go out into the world and make a bunch of mistakes like they come back yeah and whatever you taught them it's in there and at some point when they're ready or whatever like they return to it and you know and and I think to to trust that it's very important and I also feel like because if you try to overly control it you're going to drive them away absolutely and and you know I think for me I keep going back to me as a kid and the trust my parents had in me to let me go and I wouldn't be who I am today if it wasn't for them trusting in me and for all the mistakes that I've made and then had to come the other side and figure out for myself so I think it's important to give our children the Dignity of Their Own process you know because we had a dignity you know we have to go through our own process to become who we are and I think as long as they know that we are there and what what is our values you know is like those things that are important what is what is that we stand for what's important for us you know as as as as a as a value as a core value as as as a being a good human being and a good person and if you thought that your children and and they and they got it in the end of the day they're going to go out there in the world and they're going to have to make their mistakes and I I think the best thing you can do for them it's is just be there for them whenever they they come back and if they want your help you know and I think it's it's hard because you want to protect them like you can put Bobble wrap on them so like nothing will touch them and they will be safe but in the end of the day that's unrealistic and it's like it doesn't work anyway you know what I like this idea you know there's a metaphor of the butterfly imagine the caterpillar as she's transforming into becoming the butterfly she's you know eating eating all the you know until she finally starts spinning into a cocoon and and then she has to like go through that whole stous process if you ever seen like you know they turn into GP yeah but they're like but it's exactly it's just and it's really kind of like hard to like when they're coming out it's like really awkward and it looks like they're very strenuous and very difficult so if you go in there and you try to help them come out you're going to them you're going to the butterfly and she won't be able to have the strength she needs struggle is the struggle is what crucial to the the growth and you have to give them the Dignity of their own process you have to be and I and I keep reminding myself I cannot take away that opportunity for them because my parents gave me the opportunity for me to go through my own challenges and I grew and and I want my kids to have that same opportunity because whoever they're going to become is going to be based on what their choice is and hopefully I gave them enough good examples and and and good um values where they would make the choices that is right for them you know what is it that you want people to understand or take away from the new book and and how you are modeling this lifestyle um whether it's dietary changes Lifestyle Changes uh movement practices how can somebody who is interested in kind of leveling up across the board begin the process of of making those changes in their life you know it's funny you know because when I decided to do a cookbook I'm the farthest thing there is from a chef let me tell you something I I am not a chef let me just like let's be honest you've got a private Chef in home that person is taking care of everything not anymore I used to you don't anymore no I don't I don't it's no the last two years I don't you're cooking your own meals yes I'm cooking my own meals yeah I I grew up there way and I want like I told you like my priority is showing my kids what I believe it's important for them and and and I can't I can't say oh this is important and then I have and I'm not doing it you know what I mean so it has to be cohesive right and and I think that for me um really being like living what I believe is very important and I was showing my kids that this is important to me like the only way I'm going to show them that is by doing that so yes I had chefs and this is how I learn how to cook a lot of the things a lot of the recipes in the book are like inspired by the things that I created with the chefs that I throughout the years I had the opportunity to you know to really work with Incredible people incredible Chef people that love food as much as I do because I love food um but was really an idea for me to look I can say go and meditate go and exercise you know I believe meditation I believe rest I believe um exercise I believe nutrition all of those things are extremely important for you to be able to take kind of ownership of your health and really take care of yourself and have and work on just having a more clear mind and just feeling more connected to yourself I think all of those things are different aspects of it but the reason about the cookbook is quite frankly I was seeing kids were coming to our house and in play dates and and moms will come and be like how did you get my kid to eat broccoli or roasted vegetables or and it was like so simple and I was like oh maybe we can share how to make some simple recipes that are super easy you can make it like in 10 minutes and you know moms some you know you just sometimes feel overwhelmed and I know because life is busy there's so so much going on so I was like how can I help in this way and also I feel like food is a perfect time for you to practice being present and mindful because you can eat like on a rush and not being present and the food have a one effect in your body or you can do something which is what I talk about in the book is like every time I look at my food not only the act of preparing your food there so much loves and you're touching the food and you're connecting with your food that's one thing but even if you're not the one cooking your food just to take a moment to bless your food to acknowledge that that is something that is alive that you're taking it and you're that's also your source of life you know so it's kind of like connecting to the food in that way I think it it does something because everything is energy so you're having a transfer of energy with something and with the intention that you're eating it has a different I I feel huge you know when I start doing that does make a difference how he has a different just being present and being connected to what you're doing having gratitude for that moment and you get to do that three times a day you know I mean now I have a juice once a day but I still blast my juice but it's just kind of like it's just this book what I would like to to to for people to take is like it can be really simple it doesn't have to be complicated to to eat healthy and really like if you have plans you know my mom taught me you know since I was a kid like no food waste so how can we organize our meals so can there's a big thing about like reducing waste yeah there for me that's huge and also like me planning like if you're going to buy because or you know food sourcing that's huge it's not about having something with a lot of condiments and a lot of stuff it's just like keep it simple but buying really great quality products like if you can do that and then instead of like because a lot of people are like oh and then you buy organic and then you throw it out because it's like you know it spoils much faster and I'm like yeah but if you have a meal planning and I and I teach that I kind of give some suggestions in the book like my mom did that I grew up like that because she didn't have time you know she was working all the time so she had like in the fridge like what we going to have for the whole week so she would go to the groceries and she would buy and then the things were allowed to the next day so you would always know what we were eating and things that wouldn't be eaten could be easily transferred for the next day and be made into the next organiz so that nothing spoils and you're so nothing spoils and you never had food waste because you're always taking it from one day to the next so is never wasting you always	about being this sort of homebody family person holistic lifestyle like all of this stuff and then you know Gizelle the the runway you know on the runway like it's almost an alter ego it might be an alter ego he said but it's you know what it is it's a character I always call call it her because I think being a MTO what I understood as being a motto is to play a character in a silent movie you know you get to experience all these different charact all these different aspects of of of being a woman let's say because one designer wants you to be more androgynous you know one designer was you know I remember diding a Balin Saga campaign I was like they made me a boy I was like literally like a week I was like a man a boy and in one I was like the sexy Versace campaign like you know like with big hair and like you know pushup bra you know so it was kind of like I got to play from the the androgynous girl to the very sexy to the tomb boy like I got to you know I mean you should see I don't know if you ever saw my book the other one that was like the 20 years I did a 20 well I watched the video that you did where you kind of went through it and you were talking about what was	6	4	8	about being this sort of homebody family person holistic lifestyle like all of this stuff and then you know Gizelle the the runway you know on the runway like it's almost an alter ego it might be an alter ego he said but it's you know what it is it's a character I always call call it her because I think being a MTO what I understood as being a motto is to play a character in a silent movie you know you get to experience all these different charact all these different aspects of of of being a woman let's say because one designer wants you to be more androgynous you know one designer was you know I remember diding a Balin Saga campaign I was like they made me a boy I was like literally like a week I was like a man a boy and in one I was like the sexy Versace campaign like you know like with big hair and like you know pushup bra you know so it was kind of like I got to play from the the androgynous girl to the very sexy to the tomb boy like I got to you know I mean you should see I don't know if you ever saw my book the other one that was like the 20 years	I watched the video that you did where you kind of went through it and you were talking about what was	6,4,8	2,1,5	6	4	8	2	1	5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjK5ahIgsHA	4,193	rjK5ahIgsHA	2024-03-25 00:00:00	the choices that you're making are really either supporting you or not straight from the pages of Victoria Secret please welcome jaelle bunin gazelle bunin gazelle has walked in nearly 500 fashion shows and great the covers of more than 1,200 different magazines on paper like you're perhaps highly unrelatable you know what it is it's a character that's the job I do to kind of make a living so I can like you know put foot on the table raising children is is by far the most challenging thing I've ever done it's a different kind of modeling is the type of modeling that I prefer food is a perfect time for you to practice being present and mindful because it can be really simple it doesn't have to be complicated to eat healthy nature is just like it's me instead of like trying to control nature we need to just like take a humble pill and and learn from the Big Mama [Music] today's episode is brought to you by the awesome organizations that make this show [Music] possible so nice to meet you nice to meet you too so excited to have you here today yes when this opportunity presented itself I was like of course I want to talk to Jazelle and then I had my own like sort of mini panic attack we're going to get into panic attacks I'm like what could I possibly talk to this person about the alltime great super model of all time everybody knows this on paper like you're perhaps highly unrelatable but then the more you dig into your story and the more I kind of learned about your Arc and your past and what brought you to this place there's so much that's deeply relatable and your kind of transformation story is remarkably similar to mine although you did yours at like 23 I was 40 um but there's so much in there so I thought it would be cool to kind of um talk a little bit about what it was like what happened and how you made these changes in your life because I think you're in this interesting new season right now where despite the fact that you've been this Wellness Advocate and wellness Warrior for a long time my sense is that there's a there's a more full Embrace of of that now with kind of how you see yourself and what's important to you a well thank you for the introduction you know the funny thing is I you know people's you know what I did for a living is something that kind of just happened to me at 14 years old you know it was it was like hey do you want to be a model and I thought oh I can help my family you know I can do make a living and and help you know I have five sisters and and all that so modeling to me is something that is um an opportunity that came along like I think in life you have these opportunities that either you take that train and then see where it goes you know and I never even believed that this was going to take me and I was going to be doing this for almost 30 years you know it's it's one of those things that I was like oh I'll start doing this job and you know send money home and help my sisters go through school and do all that and um and maybe in five years you know I'll get a house because I didn't even go to school you know I I I was emancipated at 14 yeah you were in Tokyo at 14 I was living in Japan without speaking English and J or Japanese and that's when I when I start learning the language of of of energy you know what I mean because you don't have to understand the language you just have to feel you know something there's a lot more that has been said without words you know sure so I start learning about that um but I think that I went through this journey of modeling which was something I thought was going to last five years and I was just going to help my family out for a little bit and it just kept going you know it just kept happening you know I I didn't even think you can have longevity in this career because it's not what I what I saw really around me happening um but you know I kept it kept working out so I kept doing it and it was kind of a Mindless thing you know when you got in the hamster wheel and I think we do that sometimes in life and you're so young you don't know and you Liv the fast life and all of that so in my early 20s I um developed you know anxiety and panic attacks and all that because you know when you drink a bottle of wine and that because you like I used to be a smoker so I smoke I can't even imagine I used to smoke it feels like a whole different life you know but um it was the late 90s and there was a lot of um drugs and fashion and all that so I thought I was saying just because I was like having some wine and smoking cigarettes everybody was doing way worse things than yeah I'm sure you've seen a lot I've seen a lot yeah that's a whole other show about that that's a whole other story but yeah so um you know so that was the beginning for me to start reconnecting with myself because I think when I was 14 and I got that train my only focus was like how can I be the best that I can do on this and and and that was my focus and and I didn't meure any sacrifice he was like if I had to work 360 days a year and I felt like I couldn't say no because people were giving me a chance and then I was like in this really overdrive uh and burn down my adrenals I found out later when I found this amazing natural Doctor Who told me like listen you don't have any more adrenal they're shut down because you burn them basically I'm like but I'm only 22 you know so um basically I had to change the habits that I you know smoking a pack of cigarettes drinking alcohol every day to myself down coffee all day to keep myself up and also going from you know one time zone to the next I was three days in Paris two days in London one day in New York going back to you know my life was in a living in a suitcase and of course your nervous system is going to freak out you know and the way I was eating it was very you know anything that was in front of me I was just like not mindful about anything you know I was just kind of um like a Workhorse and when that happen to me is when I you know I come from a family that is very my my grandmother had a tea for everything so we never had we were not the kind of you know you get sick let me see this herbal remedy that we you know so yeah you grew up in kind of a small village right in Brazil your grandmother was cultivating herbs and she was the person that everyone would go to for their remedy so you have this sort of background and connection you know with the Earth exactly that you know is kind of lingering in the back of your mind when you're just you know hammering nails and and you know drinking wine and living that life but you're young it's like that's kind of what your 20s are for kind of and you're you're on this like Jet Plane I mean figuratively and literally like your career's taking off on top of that a people pleasing tendency where you feel like you have to say yes to everything and you're just go go go go go yeah and and I think but that was a big wakeup call for me because I think sometimes you know you have to reach rock bottom and when I had that those anxiety and they start becoming like almost CRI because I couldn't get on planes he was just you know I was going to all these doctors and they were like you have to take this stuff and I was just afraid of taking anything because I've never taken anything you know I was a there was a t for for this there you know my grandmother wasn't there so finally you know I wasn't going to take any medication because just the idea of taking something I was like I was normal before how can I go back being what I was you know like I I I didn't have these issues so what's happening long story short I found this doctor I had to replace my habits it was that simple I had to replace these habits that had created the reality I was living at that moment which was you know um really killing me in in so many ways you know killing my spirit killing my and and I replace it with good habits so now instead of smoking cigarettes and having a mocha frappuccino in the morning I'll would go out and do breath work and go out for a run and you know I replace in one day I gave up everything because he he looked at me he said jelle he called me Adrenalina he says do you want to live and I said I do he's like so we going to CH change my diet and that's for the first time in my life that I realized that I I was really like the one who got myself there and I was the only person who could get myself out by the choices that I was making so I had to take full responsibility for what I had created but it was in my power only in my power to change that there were no doctors nobody who was going to save me I had to change um you know the choices I was making and I and I did that and it was incredible because after over a year and a half like really struggling with anxiety and panic attacks and all that within 3 months I was like I never had another incident and it was you know and and once you start meditating I mean at that point this was 20 years ago right it wasn't like people were talking about meditation and yoga any other that um it was just um you know when you sit in silence and you and you reflect which is what we don't really give ourselves time to do because the world is so fastpaced and everything is catching your attention is trying to throw you off your Center you know everything is so busy it's like an overload of information to have that space to go inside and reflect and look and really take a step back I think that was the biggest blessing of my life so really I think what could have killed me is what gave me a whole new life and it was amazing because since then like everything changed like I realized that food is my medicine I realized that I am the director of my own movie that I'm creating my reality based on the choices that I'm making but what I'm choosing to not the people I'm choosing to have around in my life but what type of energy what kind of thoughts I allow to what am I feeding you know what kind of thoughts am I so all of that so that became like a big um changing of seasons for me in my early 20s what were those first couple weeks like if you went completely cold turkey on all of these bad habits I think it was like a drug addict I never was a I guess I was a drug etic only legal drugs because I guess alcohol is a drug and so is cigarettes nicotine and all that and caffeine and all that but they're like socially accepted but I tell you that I had the worst migraine I mean I felt like the I mean maybe that's what a person who's going like you have gone to to rehab right so I'm I don't know what you felt I would love to hear but I for me it was like right I mean I don't know about that sub it's the only way I know how to do it though I don't understand how people kind of phase out of stuff like you have to for me you have to draw the line and step over it and it's going to suck and you're going to be uncomfortable for a while while um but you know that on the other side of that lies all of this opportunity and possibility um but uh and that's what happened to me I think there was that because what I knew I knew that what I was and what if you do what you've always done you're going to get what you've always gotten is that simple and what I realized at that moment that what I what I created for myself was not what I wanted I needed to a drastic change and then he was like draw the line stopped everything in one day and the migraines and all of that like the consequences of what I had done I had to deal with them you know it took me like two weeks I think I was like having the worst migraines just because I didn't know if it was the nicotine the caffeine the alcohol I don't know what it was but it was all of it together and um but then it was amazing because from that experience I I became so much stronger and I and there are lots of different things that happen in my life after that I feel like every time we get tested it's like the Super Mario you know like the little video game when you go to do the big boss like you go through all the phases and you go to level one the big boss is like one it's okay to defeat that one but then the second one is like a tough for big boss and then the third one is you know it's like it's life I feel like that's what life is you get like the new tools so you get equipped and then you go to the next challenge that is a bigger one and then is a bigger one I feel like that's why we're here you know to keep seeing how we can expand how much more we can to grow to evolve to expand to see how strong and how creative and how you know how can how much we can experience of all this wonder how did you how did you plug that into the fast-paced life of of your modeling career because it's one thing if you're living a more kind of grounded atome lifestyle where you can control your food and your environment a little bit better but when you're flying all over the world and you're on these sets and there's craft service and it's junk food like you have to be way ahead of the curve to prepare everything to have everything kind of organized for yourself because how do you you if you're in just hotels all over the place and you arrive at midnight like how are you getting your you know like how did so how did you manage all of that you have to be very discipline I think you know when I I did this book called lessons and um and it was like everything starts to discipline that was like my first chapter and that's what I believe you have to decide you have and then you have to have the discipline to follow through so once you realize that these choices that you are making are having a positive impact in your life you want to continue doing them you know what I mean you don't want to fall back and just something that it didn't feel good that's your past like you don't want to go back there again so you're going to stick to the plan like this is what's working and this is what made me feel good again so I'm going to stick to this and of course it's not 100% you have to be compassionate with yourself too and say you I'll be like you know life is hard as it is you need to bit yourself in the head sometimes if you go and you oh you know I had like um I was exhausted I had like a banana bread or something or I had you know but I think you realize that the choices that you're making are are really either supporting you or not you know supporting you living the life that making you feel good and living the life that you want and is taking to the direction where you want to go or not and then it's just kind of an easier choice to make right and then I feel like when I go to the jobs you know I got to the point in my life where people know how I eat and you know I can tell people like listen this is what I want I want you got extensive riter yeah I kind of you know because I was already working for so long so I I have you know I got to the I guess really the privilege to be able to to kind of say like this is the kind of things that I would like to eat so please at the job you know if you're working 10 12 hours in a studio can we have these things available you know what I mean so then it was easier to keep the food healthy you know um because I think that's so important and then just to say I feel like and then saying no to those things you know like coffee or alcohol or things that I was just so used to because I was still in that same environment the environment hadn't changed I had changed but all of that was around me still but then it was just a choice of saying you know I feel great and I haven't drank alcohol in over two years now too this is something you know I even when I went back drinking after it was very moderate you know I was still like like I would drink socially sometimes you know peer pressure sometimes like oh come on have a drink you know and then you like feel like especially in my world I mean everyone pretty much is like socially having a drink so I would be like okay I'll have a drink but then he got to a point that I was like and that was like 20 years later because it just happened over two years ago I was like I don't want to drink like I don't care what anyone thinks and I don't care if they have Fe peer pressure I'm going to have my Min tea my cam tea and if they want to drink I'm not making anyone feel bad about drinking they can do whatever they want this is their Temple you know this is my temple I get to choose and they shouldn't make me feel bad that I don't want to you know so um then I kind of stood up for myself I think that happens after your 40s like you care less about what other people think and um wait till you're 50 oh my God I can't wait for that I'm gonna like he's he's gonna be amazing but I think the thing you mentioned you mentioned like being directed and and and being kind of dedicated to your path and and and I feel like that's the underappreciated aspect of of understanding you and your career a lot of people arrive in New York City every single day with a similar dream or ambition that you had when you were a young person and you arrived there and a lot of those people are very beautiful you're beautiful but that doesn't tell the story of how you translated like an opportunity into the career that you had and I think between the lines there is an intense work ethic and a very intentional approach to what you were doing like how did you apply those skills like what is the differentiator between you and the career that you've enjoyed versus you know the other beautiful people who aren't enjoying the same kind of career you can't and you're not allowed to say luck or you're you know no I don't believe I don't believe in luck I don't believe in luck I believe in hard work and but I believe in um I mean I think discipline but I also believe that I always treated everyone the way I like to be treated and I've always was appreciative I have this immense sense of gratitude for just being there so even though you know people were like oh you know you you know when I was 19 I was like I want the model of you know the model of the year and everybody's like how does it feel to be it didn't really it doesn't matter to me because quite frankly I never saw myself as a motel it's just not something I didn't drink the Kool-Aid I didn't believe because I was a model or because I I became successful in this job like I was better than anybody I just and I didn't believe that I believe that I just got to learn that craft really well and I understood what the job entail and like I learned how to do the job really well but by no means is what defined me it's just something I did it's not it's not who I am I don't know if you know it's like I go there I had this opportunity at you know 13 14 years old when I finally left home and and and and St pursued this career that really I thought it was just really I did it for the money I did it because I was like what else am I going to do at 14 years old that I can help my family you know I don't have any other jobs that are offering me an opportunity so I'll take this one so for me it was really like a job so I never like it didn't kind of Define me I kind of did it my way like I never became like you know it was like oh it needs to be glamorous I was never glamorous I'm a jeans and t-shirt type of girl like I if I needed to go to parties or hang out with this type of people I never did any of that like I went there I did my job I did the best that I could I never was late in my life for my jobs like never showed up like late I was there before everyone I was there 100% you know I I I just wanted to make sure that if people were booking me and they they were trusting in me that I was going to show up and deliver you know and I think that's kind of what it was I did it my way you know and it didn't broke me kind of Cu I saw you know people in this business you know you can lose yourself because if you drink the Kool-Aid if you start thinking you know like you lose yourself in it I never lost myself it was just a job and it's still just a job I can't even believe I'm still doing it sometimes I go in and I do it you it's not it's not what I do full- time anymore but it's just one of those things that you know I got to do this I got to make a career out of it and got to make a great living and help my family and I I have wonderful you know I got to travel the world and learn different languages and and and all of that and that's how I see it I don't see it as a you know I don't see myself you're not defined by it you're not you're not caught up in in the kind of dark underbelly of that very strange world this whole world is like almost like a parallel reality for me you know what I mean if something is like a switch on button I go there I do my job I take my picture I turn it off I go home and I have the same friends I have my my family I'm very close with my family but I think you're very good at seeing opportunities when they arise and you tell a little story in in in the new book about being 14 and on route to Tokyo and your parents gave you your dad gave you a little bit of money that was intended for getting a cab from that's the first day arve in s Paulo and instead of using that money oh it was you were super young right so you had a little bit of money to take a tab and you had the presence of mind to say this money would be better spent buying some clothes so I can do better in my auditions or whatnot um which isn't like that's not normal like that's somebody who's thinking ahead who's planning long term who's understanding that they have an opportunity in front of them and trying to figure out how to make the most out of it with limited resources and I think that speaks to or says a lot about your sensibility or your perspective as a business person yeah I mean it's so interesting to see it that way I mean I for me at that moment in time you know I I I just felt like I did something else than that you know that was one of the things and now that you're saying that I actually did that throughout because I bought my first apartment when I was 19 years old and when everybody was buying you know designer bags all the models and you know like remember I didn't know I was going to last in this business I thought like I didn't go to school I didn't go to high school I didn't you know I I left I I went to work and whenever I go I go back I thought I was going to be a farmer or something because I just always love the land and but I I didn't think like you know like where am I going to go from here so I have to make sure that I have at least a place to live I'm a cancer so I want to have like a stable home and when I was 19 you know people start flying me first class because I was like the model of the year right saw all the clients now are paying me first class I was exchanging those tickets for Coach classes because I was every two three days in a different country and instead of paying um my you know a rent in an apartment I pay I put down a down payment for an apartment and then I was paying my mortgage instead of paying rent and you're 19 and I was 19 so I I own my first apartment as 19 years old it was like a in in New York City it was like facing a wall of another building mind you he was like a very apartment you know that does require some maturity and some long-term thinking well well because I just thought to myself like you know I don't know how long I'm going to stay here you know I i' I at least I have to have a place to live if I like I'm not going to live empty-handed you know what I mean like what do I care about a bag or like what is that going to give me it's not going to be a roof over my head I need to make sure that I have that I can spend in the right places but I think that sense came from my mother because we grew up you know my mother was a cashier in the bank my father had like lots of different jobs like he had a real estate job but he was you know my mom they literally we we were like really simple people and grew up in two bedrooms with six girls and and and money was all always tight so I learned how to is the same thing in the book is like how do you prepare how do you not waste food I mean everything is like I think in my life I was kind of like raised that way you know what I mean kind of plan ahead like for tomorrow so you make sure that you have like food for everyone like like we're going to reuse the meat we cook on the barbecue and we're going to put it in the rice we're going to have carera so we're going to have an abundant meal because we have the rest of the you know what I mean it's kind of like that it's like you put money in the bank so when you retire you have something to to live off when you can no longer work the same thing I feel about food like you eat the right food so when you're older you you're able to have the energy and your body is functioning because you made the right choices so for me it's the same thing you know it's kind of making like just being kind of what is necessary here like do I really need this what do I need more do I need a roof over my head or do I need this this bags and this stuff do I need to take a taxi when I arrive to the model apartment when I'm 14 even though I never been to the city or can I take the subway and save the money so I can get the clothes for the casting and maybe I can get a job it's like it's kind of thinking like with the resources that I have right now what is the smartest how is the smartest way to use them I guess if you're like me never without a water bottle let's get it right people allow me to rock your world with my new favorite toy that's actually not a toy at all it's a non-negotiable essential camel backs Podium steel 100% % leak proof water bottle emphasis on leak proof for all 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it's you know what it is it's a character I always call call it her because I think being a MTO what I understood as being a motto is to play a character in a silent movie you know you get to experience all these different charact all these different aspects of of of being a woman let's say because one designer wants you to be more androgynous you know one designer was you know I remember diding a Balin Saga campaign I was like they made me a boy I was like literally like a week I was like a man a boy and in one I was like the sexy Versace campaign like you know like with big hair and like you know pushup bra you know so it was kind of like I got to play from the the androgynous girl to the very sexy to the tomb boy like I got to you know I mean you should see I don't know if you ever saw my book the other one that was like the 20 years I did a 20 well I watched the video that you did where you kind of went through it and you were talking about what was going on with you with each of those photographs yeah so it's it's it's it's really about kind of playing these different roles but it's just instead of you talking like you would be in a movie you're just you got to make the image that picture that one capture image to to it's a performance art it's a performance art but it's such a weird world I know that like Alexander McQueen he was like he was really the Catalyst right he was the guy who gave me the chance you know he gave me the the chance but when you watch his shows or some of these other shows like the designs are are stunning and gorgeous but they're also totally inaccessible it's like who wears this does anybody is there anybody in the world that even wear I mean if you're Lady Gaga I guess or somebody like that but like yeah it's a fantasy and so it's curious like how does that translate into I guess it's just how you feel and how you think about a particular designer or a brand and not so much about directly selling those designs to the person who's going to the department store or the boutique right yeah they're not thinking I don't even understand the business model of the whole thing yeah I me neither to be honest with you but I think it's a really I mean I think it has changed a lot uh since I started like I see a big shift because I think before there was a lot more creativity there was allowed a lot more creativity I think you know McQueen or JN galano you know the shows and stuff like you were like in a world like sure and the photographers being rock stars themselves oh yeah and and it was a I think it was a moment in time where there was so much less about selling but it was much more about the the inspiration and the aspir aspiring you know the aspiration of creating like a fantasy and like a and it was a lot of fun then I have to say at that time because I would have been dead I wouldn't have survived it I would have gone all in I would have been at every after hours party it would have been a disaster you see I was in bed like studying my astrology books like by 10 you know that was me I was like by 10 I was like oh no I have to go I was like I have to start early so I can go to bed early so for me it was a a different thing but um you know but I guess for me I also fell very responsible because I didn't want to one of the The Guiding lights for me I really believe was my parents because I saw how hard they work and I didn't want to disappoint them so I think part of like me being so stay on the line was like I'm not disappointing my parents I don't care if they're not here they are going to know what I'm doing like I remember part of the reason why I got so freaked out about the McQueen show and they sent me out like without a top because I couldn't speak English and they didn't even do a feeding anyway so then I was I was like oh my God if my parents see this they're GNA make me go back home and then I you know what is it like when you go internet but there was no internet in 1997 19 it wasn't so thank God because they didn't even saw that otherwi they would have been like what what are you doing I be like I don't know and you have five siblings right I have five sisters I'm a middle child I have two older sisters and two younger sisters and I'm a twin MH in the middle so we like the the sandwich like the cheese in the sandwich being Brazilian uh you're connected to the Amazon and to climate change issues and you've done a lot in terms of your environmental advocacy and clean water initiatives talk a little bit about how that began and and what that looked like now you know I um I've always been a big um basically like a child of nature I always tell my children when they ask you know what's your religion they say Mom we don't go to church I say you know what you're in church every day I say I say what do I say when people ask what my what my religion is I say love is your religion and nature is your church that's your Cathedral that's the big church that's our Temple you know so you honor your temple you love your temple you CU that's the only reason why we are all alive because this whole ecosystem is making it possible you know to grow our food to give us to provide us with all the things we need to survive so U and that's how I grew up I felt that way and especially having a grandmother that everything was from the earth you know she grew everything she ate and and uh you know the Earth was giving us the herbs that we needed to like when we fell ill and and I grew up in that way so when you grew up in that way and you grew up running around bare feet you know I come from a small village and anytime you want to eat something you grab there was like a tangerine tree or like a orange tree or is a plum tree and you just go and pick up the fruit from the tree we never bought fruits from the supermarket you know you go either you had it in your backyard or your neighbor had it or the other neighbor you know somebody had the fruit he wanted to eat you just go grab it so I think when you leave with that connection to Nature you have a different appreciation it's like so I feel like nature is just like it's it's it's me like I think we are n you know we are that and I think this connection from nature for me is not something it's just something I've always known you know is how I grew up and so for me um taking care of which I love which is nature is natural um so the but the first time I realized there was really problems happening is when I went to actually spend some time uh with the indigenous people in shingu area of the Amazon in the 2004 and that's when the first time I realized you know pesticide what's what pesticides were doing where mining was doing how they were contaminating the rivers and basically all the indigenous tribes they were living and depending on the that water they were getting sick and even though they were living very wholesomely you know with nature and you know by the impact that the big farms and different Mining and all that stuff was having um was really um having a really terrible impact in their in their their livelihoods and and that's when the first time I was like I need to do something about it and that's when I started like I had a flipflop line at the time in Brazil and we gave a percentage you know to that's actually a funny story the the the indigenous people and I was like I wonder what they would do with this with this funds but it was like a group that helped indigenous in Brazil and the funny enough when I did when I turned 40 this was in 2004 so I was like 24 cut to when I'm 40 2020 I was 40 um I wanted to do something for my 40th birthday and I was like oh I want to plant some trees in the in in the Amazon and how we going to do it so we looked around for who can help us do that and we contacted the the people that are working with the indigenous people that we knew in in Brazil and they're like we have the largest seed bank in the Amazon and we started with the money with the whole program that you gave in 2004 that money that was for the sale of the flipflops now years later they had the largest seed bank of you know the indigenous they they they collected the larger seed bank and this is how with that whole group of people we basically planted over 300,000 trees in that area of the Amazon so that was like years later so that's just how funny how life goes but for me because I was so connected to nature and I always wanted to help and my dad always said you know water is the most important thing and of course I saw that with the indigenous people because that's how they were all getting sick because all the the you know residue of Mining and and and pesticides were going into their water in my little village we were having a lot of problems with agriculture as well where there was a lot of runoffs from Roundup and all the stuff that they use in agriculture all the pesticides and stuff and it was getting a lot of people sick so we actually did the AGA limpa program in 200 I think it was 20 the N or I don't remember when we started but it was like a long time ago and I funded it and my dad who's also a sociologist worked with the university and we and we basically regenerated the whole area of the river that was kind of you know getting the water to the city and we were able to clean it it took us like a few years to do it you know it was pretty simple because all we had to do I mean it was not simple my dad is the one who did the work it was simpler for me I just kind of funded it but he was there every day he had to work with I don't know how many farmers you had to take their pie of land and kind of grow the native species Forest you know the native Forest back so then the there's a buffer there was a buffer and then the root systems could could filtrate it before all that stuff would go into the river and then that was the agal limpa project and that was one of the projects we did to clean the water and anyway so there's lots of different things but in overall thing my my thing is you know we got to take care of Mother Earth she takes care of us you know when people say to me oh we're going to save the planet I say you're that's such an ego thing you know as humans we think we're going to save anything the planets is in her own process of evolution this is a you know it's I mean dinosaurs were here before us and you know lur I mean so many different civilizations the planet will be fine that's what I always say I say please don't fool yourself I think we really saving ourselves we need to yeah I say there's no Sav we need re ourselves back yeah this is really about us protecting the resources and and taking care of what we really need for our survival because once we are gone the planet is going to regenerate I mean I've seen this over and over again the planet regenerates itself so quickly you know because it's it's just a very intelligent we need to learn from nature instead of like trying to control nature we need to just like take a humble pill and and learn from the Big Mama we've moved so far away from that and we do live in this dualistic mindset where we think there's you know our environments and then there's nature or there's us and that's outside um but really understanding that you're never out of nature as you as you said um I think it's the first point of trying to really deepen your relationship with the world in which you live we all live and share and I think when it comes to the Amazon like we all hear about deforestation and all the you know clearing that's going on for cattle grazing and the strip mining and all the stuff that you mentioned but it's an abstraction especially for you know people in North America like we know what's going on we know it's bad but I've never visited there like I've never seen it myself and you being Brazilian gives you kind of a deeper appreciation and understanding of the extent of it you know I think it's how people tell the story because I think it's a lot deeper than you know I think people like depending on the industry that wants to benefit from something that tell the story and they say okay this is what we're going to do is about the cing oh yeah it's so crazy a lot of NOS go in there and they say we're going to have an NGO because we're going to like protect Amazon but they're meantime they're the owners of the bigger paper company that comes from the Amazon they are just not you know what I mean so there it's not not all is as it seems no it's it's a very it's a wild wild west there and one of the biggest you know I've been there a few times and also done a lot of um just kind of like talking to people and understanding what happens there and a lot of the you know there's ancient Woods there and a lot of that goes to Europe so like what a lot of the the cattle for example is what they use to kind of occupy the land but what they're really after which is really valuable there is like gold and Min m you know the the rare medals the rare medals yeah the rare medals and the gold and all that stuff that's in there that's what interest this like you know the different um countries let's say they are not brail when they and because it's so corrupt unfortunately you know Brazil is very corrupt the politicians are very corrupt what happens is they sell those rights to those countries and then we have what we have and then the cattle like in the end they just kind of put them there because they have to occupy the land after they REM because they have to enter if you go there after they removed everything because they have to remove the value the value then they then they put all the cows there that's what they do so they remove the ancient wood they they remove the precious metals and and but they have to get there because if you fly over it it mean you're flying for hours over just a Green carpet so for you to have access to that you have to you can't just like clear cut because it grows so what they do to keep the the the forest from growing they just throw because it's very fertile the soil as soon as you cut because imagine that soil is been there like receiving all those back healthy bacteria from the leaves falling super fertile So within like three days you can Grass Grows Right and then in order for the trees not to keep growing because if you just leave abandon that's what's going to happen the birds are going to carry the seeds they're going to drop the seeds they're going to things are going to start growing again and then they won't have access you know so they kind of it's just like a cycle like but what is really after what they're really after it is the big stuff is the is the and and it's not unfortunately you know it's h it's so sad you know is greed mhm in the end of the day is greed and is greed by people that you know they don't have those natural resources where they are and and they understand the situation in Brazil and how corrupt the this the the system is you know with the politicians and they come and they they just buy those right they exploited they exploited in in every way but and and in the end of the day it's um I think greed is the biggest dis disease of of our time you're not going to get an argument from me on that over the last decade of Hosting this podcast my mission has been to engage in what I consider to be critically important conversations about the things that matter most in life things like Health relationships growth purpose and service while I'm immensely grateful for the growth of this show I've also come to realize that my voice alone is not enough this mission is not and cannot be a solitary Endeavor so I wanted to find a way to help amplify other meaningful voices and the result is voicing change media this beautiful Consortium of thinkers of storytellers artists and Visionaries all committed to fostering meaningful exchanges intentionally curated for those committed to the path of self-discovery this 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their best interest from a wellness perspective I think the number one thing I feel is like monkey see monkey does right I think you have to be the example you have to leave it um cuz I think whatever you say is one thing and whatever you do you they need to kind they need to whatever you say whatever you do they have to be the same thing right sympatico yeah they have to be sympatico and um and that's what it is and and I think for the kids for my kids were were a lot easier because I was home a lot with them so I was you know taking them to school every day making their breakfast you know just having my Gardens at home growing the food so when the kids would come for play dates at the house you know my kids were grabbing like everything raw cucumbers carrots like green beans they were just grabbing it from the garden and like collecting things and putting in the basket it was like a game for them and it was like oh friends are coming over why are we going to grab for the for to Door picnic outside and then so they grew up in that way you know they they uh so it was easier for me to feed them healthier food and and and and explain to them you know we always compost it we had bees at our house um so you know they they were learning about you know when The Beekeeper would come and they explain you know how much be how much honey can you take and how much money how much honey do you leave for the bees and how does a the how does a queen bee work and all the so they were they're emotionally connected they were emotionally connected they were part of that like I was as a kid so um so for them is really natural and they were also homeschooled for the last three years um during the you know the whole pandemic thing I and we moved from Boston to Tampa so um it was a whole new world for them so I I homeschooled them and now they just went back to school but I have to tell you I see a huge difference especially because my son is 14 now so he wants to kind of push back this is what I'm getting at oh yeah well how old kid well they range from 28 to 16 and each one of there's four and each of them is different um but it's a delicate dance because you know we raised our kids similarly um but they reach a certain age and part of individuation and maturing is taking ownership for your own choices and understanding what you stand for and what you don't and in order to really Define that and hone that you have to go out and kind of push the envelope and try new things otherwise it's just something you're doing because that's the way you were raised and that's what your parents told you as opposed to really owning it for yourself and so so we have learned that you have to have the brains very loose and and let them go out and do what they want to do and control the environment at home but be you know very kind of nonplused if they go and make a choice that you wouldn't make or whatever and just be curious about it and allow them the space to do that and you know you hope they come back and you know do it the way you taught them to um and sometimes they do and sometimes they don't and again every one of them is different in our case but as they get to a certain point and especially you know when they're with peers and friends and they're in social situations those things they have to learn for themselves and you have to allow them to I think it's so interesting so you have to let go a little bit oh let go and let God yeah I tell myself that is like a mantra you know and and and I I I remind myself of like my mom let me leave home she emancipated me and I was leing in Japan at 14 and there was no cell phones like I call you know can you imagine doing that for one of your children right now no and actually you know what it's so funny because I was having a conversation with my son about that he um he was complaining you know I have chores in my house you know kids have to do their chores so set the table wash the dishes you know now I make a point you know I cook at you know they come from school I'm cooking you know they so one has to set the table whoever sets the table the other has to wash the dishes and there is like you have to clean your room you have to do the basic stuff you know my daughter is doing amazingly she loves it and she's like really good and very proud of herself mom look how good I cleaned the dishes like she's really good and she's washing herself she's not putting it in the machine she wants to learn how to really wash it and and and do it right and she's very focused on it my son is like always like why do I have to do this you know so actually we had like a breakthrough this Christmas this this whole holiday season because I said he says to me I'm going to leave home when I'm 18 mom and I don't know if I'm going to go to college you didn't go to college you didn't go to school I'm going to just leave home when I'm 18 and I'm going to do this and I'm going to do that I'm like okay that's great so you're going to leave in your own apartment and who's going to cook for you and who's going to wash your dishes and who's going to clean your clothes who's going to do that and he's like for a second he's like because you're not going to have a chef and like a you know like and he was thinking for a second and I say well this is why when mommy tells you to do those things at home you know is because I want to give you more tools for your tool boox because when you learn how to do those things and they become second nature to you then you don't even have to think about it you become empowered to do it for yourself you don't depend on anybody and that's nothing it's amazing to be able to do that I said you know what made me feel so like strong and capable when I left my home because my mom taught me how to do those things so when I left home and I was leaving by myself at 14 years old I was first at 13 at 14 I moved to Japan but because I was leaving in the mod's apartment I was the only person there who knew how to clean cook iron do absolutely everything in the house because my mom taught me and it was easy for me I didn't think it was a struggle I was happy to do it and I was happy to to do it for the other girls that didn't know how to do it but if you're going to be planning on leaving on your own at 18 who do you think is going to do all those things for you so all I'm telling you is like take advantage that mommy's here for you right now and I'm able to teach you all those things and you can do it at your time I'm not telling you like at this time you have to wash the dishes so let me just help you I'm going to create a list for you and you just have to do them and you can decide if you want to wash clothes once or twice a week you can decide if you want to wash the dishes right after dinner or before you go to bed whatever you want but if you learn how to do those things you're going to see how empowered you're going to feel and the more tools we can put like the more things like the simple things like that that you can learn and that you can equip your tool box to do you're just going to be just that much like capable and and and there's nothing more fulfilling than feeling like you're able to do stuff that you're capable and then he looked at me and he's like okay mom so when we get back home you give me that list and I'm going to do it I'm like I wow I was going to say like he actually he actually receiv that I I think I have a breakthrough I think I got a breakthrough with the hormones are raging like whatever mom you know storming off like you can get you can get that reaction too that was good good job don't you think that was a good thing but but I used but you see it was a moment that I used what he said because when he thought to himself that's true how am I going to do all that stuff I said you don't want to live in like a you know a messy stinky place that is not clean like you know you want to like have you know so you need to know how to do this stuff and I think all I I see like all the things that happen in life like that like different tools we acquire you know even the job that I you know my job like all the tools that I've acquired in this job all the things that I've learned to do um that I don't know when I'm going to use I use them for my job but maybe I'm going to they going to be useful like in 20 years from my life sure but you came from very different circumstances it's the it's the Peril of success right like you and and the kid's dad like worked very hard to achieve all of these things in life and now they're reared in you know like an insane degree of privilege and it becomes more difficult to instill that kind of work ethic into somebody who you know grows up that way I think you're correct I think it becomes a lot more difficult but I think goes back to the discipline and it goes back to priorities and I think it for me it becomes about what kind of you know I I feel like I'm their Guardian because we don't possess our children right I mean we just come here they come through us but they're as much as our teachers as we are they're teachers and we're constantly learning and teaching you know in every relationship in our life and and I feel that we get this moment in time which is very short in a way that we get to influence our children because then they go I mean look at my parents they had 14 years to influence me then I was out in the world and I never went back and I keep remembering like what are all the things that if they wouldn't have taught me those things where would I be today and I'm so grateful for them for for those lessons and I feel like yes I grew up in very different circumstances than my kids and it is a bit more challenging to have them you know make their bed and wash the dishes and clean their you know when I have a person that can do it too but I make a point of me doing it so then they learn that oh Mommy's doing the dinner Mommy is making the breakfast mommy is so they're like weel you have to model and I feel like it's a different kind of modeling is it is the type of modeling that I prefer it's it's the type of modeling that I find to be the important type of modeling because that's the you know I mean what's Mo the most important thing you're going to do in your life I feel like raising children is is by far the most challenging thing I've ever done and the most uh fulfilling at the same time and you know but I feel that if if I if I don't do that if I don't equip my children to be good capable assets you know for themselves in their lives if they're not going to be then I fail I I feel yeah you haven't done your job then I haven't done my job I mean I feel that's my job I mean that's a job I do to kind of make a living so I can like you know put foot on the table and have but my real job as as I think as a as a mom and I chose to be a mom so I have to show up for my kids and I feel like this things that my you know I think is really what shaped me and what made me who I am today was definitely the upbringing that I had and and what my parents how they guided me and I feel like that's really important so I make that a priority in my life to make sure that my kids are going to have even though they don't have those same needs you know to do those things because my mom didn't have a a person she could pay to come clean the house we had to you clean the bathroom you clean the you know it was like a list all of us have to share between us who's going to do what and we grew up that way and it was kind of fun because you know I was always I always love the cleaning part you know I love organizing and cleaning I feel like a clean house is a clean mind is like a what's out is in you know if like if everything is organized outside I can think um and I tell my kids that and I feel that um if I can really get them to do those simple things in life you know and and learn those things and teach them how to be self-sufficient and capable human beings I feel like I've done my job and then I can rest and then whatever else they do the choices they make if they choose to eat the food that I fed them when they were little if now they want to go eat you know whatever or I mean it's going to be what they're going to do you know they're going to choose their friends hopefully they they choose wisely because in the end of the day they're going to be the one dealing with the consequences of their actions and I always tell them like listen you know you're going to go out there and you're going to make the Cho whatever choice you make there are going to be consequences you're dealing with those consequences me this is your life and sometimes they need to they need to make those mistakes and face those consequences like we had I mean how many mistakes that I mean I have and those those experiences are formative like I'm sure if you look in the rear view mirror and think about the panic attacks that you were having on airplanes and your inability to get into an elevator and you know this desire to jump off your balcony on some level you wouldn't wish that experience on anybody but you probably wouldn't wna change your experience either because it's set in motion this whole sensibility and way of being that you now have and I think with kids they regardless of whether they hear you in the moment or whether they go out into the world and make a bunch of mistakes like they come back yeah and whatever you taught them it's in there and at some point when they're ready or whatever like they return to it and you know and and I think to to trust that it's very important and I also feel like because if you try to overly control it you're going to drive them away absolutely and and you know I think for me I keep going back to me as a kid and the trust my parents had in me to let me go and I wouldn't be who I am today if it wasn't for them trusting in me and for all the mistakes that I've made and then had to come the other side and figure out for myself so I think it's important to give our children the Dignity of Their Own process you know because we had a dignity you know we have to go through our own process to become who we are and I think as long as they know that we are there and what what is our values you know is like those things that are important what is what is that we stand for what's important for us you know as as as as a as a value as a core value as as as a being a good human being and a good person and if you thought that your children and and they and they got it in the end of the day they're going to go out there in the world and they're going to have to make their mistakes and I I think the best thing you can do for them it's is just be there for them whenever they they come back and if they want your help you know and I think it's it's hard because you want to protect them like you can put Bobble wrap on them so like nothing will touch them and they will be safe but in the end of the day that's unrealistic and it's like it doesn't work anyway you know what I like this idea you know there's a metaphor of the butterfly imagine the caterpillar as she's transforming into becoming the butterfly she's you know eating eating all the you know until she finally starts spinning into a cocoon and and then she has to like go through that whole stous process if you ever seen like you know they turn into GP yeah but they're like but it's exactly it's just and it's really kind of like hard to like when they're coming out it's like really awkward and it looks like they're very strenuous and very difficult so if you go in there and you try to help them come out you're going to them you're going to the butterfly and she won't be able to have the strength she needs struggle is the struggle is what crucial to the the growth and you have to give them the Dignity of their own process you have to be and I and I keep reminding myself I cannot take away that opportunity for them because my parents gave me the opportunity for me to go through my own challenges and I grew and and I want my kids to have that same opportunity because whoever they're going to become is going to be based on what their choice is and hopefully I gave them enough good examples and and and good um values where they would make the choices that is right for them you know what is it that you want people to understand or take away from the new book and and how you are modeling this lifestyle um whether it's dietary changes Lifestyle Changes uh movement practices how can somebody who is interested in kind of leveling up across the board begin the process of of making those changes in their life you know it's funny you know because when I decided to do a cookbook I'm the farthest thing there is from a chef let me tell you something I I am not a chef let me just like let's be honest you've got a private Chef in home that person is taking care of everything not anymore I used to you don't anymore no I don't I don't it's no the last two years I don't you're cooking your own meals yes I'm cooking my own meals yeah I I grew up there way and I want like I told you like my priority is showing my kids what I believe it's important for them and and and I can't I can't say oh this is important and then I have and I'm not doing it you know what I mean so it has to be cohesive right and and I think that for me um really being like living what I believe is very important and I was showing my kids that this is important to me like the only way I'm going to show them that is by doing that so yes I had chefs and this is how I learn how to cook a lot of the things a lot of the recipes in the book are like inspired by the things that I created with the chefs that I throughout the years I had the opportunity to you know to really work with Incredible people incredible Chef people that love food as much as I do because I love food um but was really an idea for me to look I can say go and meditate go and exercise you know I believe meditation I believe rest I believe um exercise I believe nutrition all of those things are extremely important for you to be able to take kind of ownership of your health and really take care of yourself and have and work on just having a more clear mind and just feeling more connected to yourself I think all of those things are different aspects of it but the reason about the cookbook is quite frankly I was seeing kids were coming to our house and in play dates and and moms will come and be like how did you get my kid to eat broccoli or roasted vegetables or and it was like so simple and I was like oh maybe we can share how to make some simple recipes that are super easy you can make it like in 10 minutes and you know moms some you know you just sometimes feel overwhelmed and I know because life is busy there's so so much going on so I was like how can I help in this way and also I feel like food is a perfect time for you to practice being present and mindful because you can eat like on a rush and not being present and the food have a one effect in your body or you can do something which is what I talk about in the book is like every time I look at my food not only the act of preparing your food there so much loves and you're touching the food and you're connecting with your food that's one thing but even if you're not the one cooking your food just to take a moment to bless your food to acknowledge that that is something that is alive that you're taking it and you're that's also your source of life you know so it's kind of like connecting to the food in that way I think it it does something because everything is energy so you're having a transfer of energy with something and with the intention that you're eating it has a different I I feel huge you know when I start doing that does make a difference how he has a different just being present and being connected to what you're doing having gratitude for that moment and you get to do that three times a day you know I mean now I have a juice once a day but I still blast my juice but it's just kind of like it's just this book what I would like to to to for people to take is like it can be really simple it doesn't have to be complicated to to eat healthy and really like if you have plans you know my mom taught me you know since I was a kid like no food waste so how can we organize our meals so can there's a big thing about like reducing waste yeah there for me that's huge and also like me planning like if you're going to buy because or you know food sourcing that's huge it's not about having something with a lot of condiments and a lot of stuff it's just like keep it simple but buying really great quality products like if you can do that and then instead of like because a lot of people are like oh and then you buy organic and then you throw it out because it's like you know it spoils much faster and I'm like yeah but if you have a meal planning and I and I teach that I kind of give some suggestions in the book like my mom did that I grew up like that because she didn't have time you know she was working all the time so she had like in the fridge like what we going to have for the whole week so she would go to the groceries and she would buy and then the things were allowed to the next day so you would always know what we were eating and things that wouldn't be eaten could be easily transferred for the next day and be made into the next organiz so that nothing spoils and you're so nothing spoils and you never had food waste because you're always taking it from one day to the next so is never wasting you always	going on with you with each of those photographs yeah so it's it's it's it's really about kind of playing these different roles but it's just instead of you talking like you would be in a movie you're just you got to make the image that picture that one capture image to to it's a performance art it's a performance art but it's such a weird world I know that like Alexander McQueen he was like he was really the Catalyst right he was the guy who gave me the chance you know he gave me the the chance but when you watch his shows or some of these other shows like the designs are are stunning and gorgeous but they're also totally inaccessible it's like who wears this does anybody is there anybody in the world that even wear I mean if you're Lady Gaga I guess or somebody like that but like yeah it's a fantasy and so it's curious like how does that translate into I guess it's just how you feel and how you think about a particular designer or a brand and not so much about directly selling those designs to the person who's going to the department store or the boutique right yeah they're not thinking I don't even understand the business model of the whole thing yeah I me neither to be honest with you but I think it's a really I mean I think it has changed a lot uh since I	5	4	2	going on with you with each of those photographs yeah so it's it's it's it's really about kind of playing these different roles but it's just instead of you talking like you would be in a movie you're just you got to make the image that picture that one capture image to to it's a performance art it's a performance art but it's such a weird world I know that like Alexander McQueen he was like he was really the Catalyst right he was the guy who gave me the chance you know he gave me the the chance but when you watch his shows or some of these other shows like the designs are are stunning and gorgeous but they're also totally inaccessible it's like who wears this does anybody is there anybody in the world that even wear I mean if you're Lady Gaga I guess or somebody like that but like yeah it's a fantasy and so it's curious like how does that translate into I guess it's just how you feel and how you think about a particular designer or a brand and not so much about directly selling those designs to the person who's going to the department store or the boutique right yeah they're not thinking I don't even understand the business model of the whole thing	I me neither to be honest with you but I think it's a really I mean I think it has changed a lot uh since I	4,5,6	2,3,4	4	5	6	2	3	4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjK5ahIgsHA	4,193	rjK5ahIgsHA	2024-03-25 00:00:00	the choices that you're making are really either supporting you or not straight from the pages of Victoria Secret please welcome jaelle bunin gazelle bunin gazelle has walked in nearly 500 fashion shows and great the covers of more than 1,200 different magazines on paper like you're perhaps highly unrelatable you know what it is it's a character that's the job I do to kind of make a living so I can like you know put foot on the table raising children is is by far the most challenging thing I've ever done it's a different kind of modeling is the type of modeling that I prefer food is a perfect time for you to practice being present and mindful because it can be really simple it doesn't have to be complicated to eat healthy nature is just like it's me instead of like trying to control nature we need to just like take a humble pill and and learn from the Big Mama [Music] today's episode is brought to you by the awesome organizations that make this show [Music] possible so nice to meet you nice to meet you too so excited to have you here today yes when this opportunity presented itself I was like of course I want to talk to Jazelle and then I had my own like sort of mini panic attack we're going to get into panic attacks I'm like what could I possibly talk to this person about the alltime great super model of all time everybody knows this on paper like you're perhaps highly unrelatable but then the more you dig into your story and the more I kind of learned about your Arc and your past and what brought you to this place there's so much that's deeply relatable and your kind of transformation story is remarkably similar to mine although you did yours at like 23 I was 40 um but there's so much in there so I thought it would be cool to kind of um talk a little bit about what it was like what happened and how you made these changes in your life because I think you're in this interesting new season right now where despite the fact that you've been this Wellness Advocate and wellness Warrior for a long time my sense is that there's a there's a more full Embrace of of that now with kind of how you see yourself and what's important to you a well thank you for the introduction you know the funny thing is I you know people's you know what I did for a living is something that kind of just happened to me at 14 years old you know it was it was like hey do you want to be a model and I thought oh I can help my family you know I can do make a living and and help you know I have five sisters and and all that so modeling to me is something that is um an opportunity that came along like I think in life you have these opportunities that either you take that train and then see where it goes you know and I never even believed that this was going to take me and I was going to be doing this for almost 30 years you know it's it's one of those things that I was like oh I'll start doing this job and you know send money home and help my sisters go through school and do all that and um and maybe in five years you know I'll get a house because I didn't even go to school you know I I I was emancipated at 14 yeah you were in Tokyo at 14 I was living in Japan without speaking English and J or Japanese and that's when I when I start learning the language of of of energy you know what I mean because you don't have to understand the language you just have to feel you know something there's a lot more that has been said without words you know sure so I start learning about that um but I think that I went through this journey of modeling which was something I thought was going to last five years and I was just going to help my family out for a little bit and it just kept going you know it just kept happening you know I I didn't even think you can have longevity in this career because it's not what I what I saw really around me happening um but you know I kept it kept working out so I kept doing it and it was kind of a Mindless thing you know when you got in the hamster wheel and I think we do that sometimes in life and you're so young you don't know and you Liv the fast life and all of that so in my early 20s I um developed you know anxiety and panic attacks and all that because you know when you drink a bottle of wine and that because you like I used to be a smoker so I smoke I can't even imagine I used to smoke it feels like a whole different life you know but um it was the late 90s and there was a lot of um drugs and fashion and all that so I thought I was saying just because I was like having some wine and smoking cigarettes everybody was doing way worse things than yeah I'm sure you've seen a lot I've seen a lot yeah that's a whole other show about that that's a whole other story but yeah so um you know so that was the beginning for me to start reconnecting with myself because I think when I was 14 and I got that train my only focus was like how can I be the best that I can do on this and and and that was my focus and and I didn't meure any sacrifice he was like if I had to work 360 days a year and I felt like I couldn't say no because people were giving me a chance and then I was like in this really overdrive uh and burn down my adrenals I found out later when I found this amazing natural Doctor Who told me like listen you don't have any more adrenal they're shut down because you burn them basically I'm like but I'm only 22 you know so um basically I had to change the habits that I you know smoking a pack of cigarettes drinking alcohol every day to myself down coffee all day to keep myself up and also going from you know one time zone to the next I was three days in Paris two days in London one day in New York going back to you know my life was in a living in a suitcase and of course your nervous system is going to freak out you know and the way I was eating it was very you know anything that was in front of me I was just like not mindful about anything you know I was just kind of um like a Workhorse and when that happen to me is when I you know I come from a family that is very my my grandmother had a tea for everything so we never had we were not the kind of you know you get sick let me see this herbal remedy that we you know so yeah you grew up in kind of a small village right in Brazil your grandmother was cultivating herbs and she was the person that everyone would go to for their remedy so you have this sort of background and connection you know with the Earth exactly that you know is kind of lingering in the back of your mind when you're just you know hammering nails and and you know drinking wine and living that life but you're young it's like that's kind of what your 20s are for kind of and you're you're on this like Jet Plane I mean figuratively and literally like your career's taking off on top of that a people pleasing tendency where you feel like you have to say yes to everything and you're just go go go go go yeah and and I think but that was a big wakeup call for me because I think sometimes you know you have to reach rock bottom and when I had that those anxiety and they start becoming like almost CRI because I couldn't get on planes he was just you know I was going to all these doctors and they were like you have to take this stuff and I was just afraid of taking anything because I've never taken anything you know I was a there was a t for for this there you know my grandmother wasn't there so finally you know I wasn't going to take any medication because just the idea of taking something I was like I was normal before how can I go back being what I was you know like I I I didn't have these issues so what's happening long story short I found this doctor I had to replace my habits it was that simple I had to replace these habits that had created the reality I was living at that moment which was you know um really killing me in in so many ways you know killing my spirit killing my and and I replace it with good habits so now instead of smoking cigarettes and having a mocha frappuccino in the morning I'll would go out and do breath work and go out for a run and you know I replace in one day I gave up everything because he he looked at me he said jelle he called me Adrenalina he says do you want to live and I said I do he's like so we going to CH change my diet and that's for the first time in my life that I realized that I I was really like the one who got myself there and I was the only person who could get myself out by the choices that I was making so I had to take full responsibility for what I had created but it was in my power only in my power to change that there were no doctors nobody who was going to save me I had to change um you know the choices I was making and I and I did that and it was incredible because after over a year and a half like really struggling with anxiety and panic attacks and all that within 3 months I was like I never had another incident and it was you know and and once you start meditating I mean at that point this was 20 years ago right it wasn't like people were talking about meditation and yoga any other that um it was just um you know when you sit in silence and you and you reflect which is what we don't really give ourselves time to do because the world is so fastpaced and everything is catching your attention is trying to throw you off your Center you know everything is so busy it's like an overload of information to have that space to go inside and reflect and look and really take a step back I think that was the biggest blessing of my life so really I think what could have killed me is what gave me a whole new life and it was amazing because since then like everything changed like I realized that food is my medicine I realized that I am the director of my own movie that I'm creating my reality based on the choices that I'm making but what I'm choosing to not the people I'm choosing to have around in my life but what type of energy what kind of thoughts I allow to what am I feeding you know what kind of thoughts am I so all of that so that became like a big um changing of seasons for me in my early 20s what were those first couple weeks like if you went completely cold turkey on all of these bad habits I think it was like a drug addict I never was a I guess I was a drug etic only legal drugs because I guess alcohol is a drug and so is cigarettes nicotine and all that and caffeine and all that but they're like socially accepted but I tell you that I had the worst migraine I mean I felt like the I mean maybe that's what a person who's going like you have gone to to rehab right so I'm I don't know what you felt I would love to hear but I for me it was like right I mean I don't know about that sub it's the only way I know how to do it though I don't understand how people kind of phase out of stuff like you have to for me you have to draw the line and step over it and it's going to suck and you're going to be uncomfortable for a while while um but you know that on the other side of that lies all of this opportunity and possibility um but uh and that's what happened to me I think there was that because what I knew I knew that what I was and what if you do what you've always done you're going to get what you've always gotten is that simple and what I realized at that moment that what I what I created for myself was not what I wanted I needed to a drastic change and then he was like draw the line stopped everything in one day and the migraines and all of that like the consequences of what I had done I had to deal with them you know it took me like two weeks I think I was like having the worst migraines just because I didn't know if it was the nicotine the caffeine the alcohol I don't know what it was but it was all of it together and um but then it was amazing because from that experience I I became so much stronger and I and there are lots of different things that happen in my life after that I feel like every time we get tested it's like the Super Mario you know like the little video game when you go to do the big boss like you go through all the phases and you go to level one the big boss is like one it's okay to defeat that one but then the second one is like a tough for big boss and then the third one is you know it's like it's life I feel like that's what life is you get like the new tools so you get equipped and then you go to the next challenge that is a bigger one and then is a bigger one I feel like that's why we're here you know to keep seeing how we can expand how much more we can to grow to evolve to expand to see how strong and how creative and how you know how can how much we can experience of all this wonder how did you how did you plug that into the fast-paced life of of your modeling career because it's one thing if you're living a more kind of grounded atome lifestyle where you can control your food and your environment a little bit better but when you're flying all over the world and you're on these sets and there's craft service and it's junk food like you have to be way ahead of the curve to prepare everything to have everything kind of organized for yourself because how do you you if you're in just hotels all over the place and you arrive at midnight like how are you getting your you know like how did so how did you manage all of that you have to be very discipline I think you know when I I did this book called lessons and um and it was like everything starts to discipline that was like my first chapter and that's what I believe you have to decide you have and then you have to have the discipline to follow through so once you realize that these choices that you are making are having a positive impact in your life you want to continue doing them you know what I mean you don't want to fall back and just something that it didn't feel good that's your past like you don't want to go back there again so you're going to stick to the plan like this is what's working and this is what made me feel good again so I'm going to stick to this and of course it's not 100% you have to be compassionate with yourself too and say you I'll be like you know life is hard as it is you need to bit yourself in the head sometimes if you go and you oh you know I had like um I was exhausted I had like a banana bread or something or I had you know but I think you realize that the choices that you're making are are really either supporting you or not you know supporting you living the life that making you feel good and living the life that you want and is taking to the direction where you want to go or not and then it's just kind of an easier choice to make right and then I feel like when I go to the jobs you know I got to the point in my life where people know how I eat and you know I can tell people like listen this is what I want I want you got extensive riter yeah I kind of you know because I was already working for so long so I I have you know I got to the I guess really the privilege to be able to to kind of say like this is the kind of things that I would like to eat so please at the job you know if you're working 10 12 hours in a studio can we have these things available you know what I mean so then it was easier to keep the food healthy you know um because I think that's so important and then just to say I feel like and then saying no to those things you know like coffee or alcohol or things that I was just so used to because I was still in that same environment the environment hadn't changed I had changed but all of that was around me still but then it was just a choice of saying you know I feel great and I haven't drank alcohol in over two years now too this is something you know I even when I went back drinking after it was very moderate you know I was still like like I would drink socially sometimes you know peer pressure sometimes like oh come on have a drink you know and then you like feel like especially in my world I mean everyone pretty much is like socially having a drink so I would be like okay I'll have a drink but then he got to a point that I was like and that was like 20 years later because it just happened over two years ago I was like I don't want to drink like I don't care what anyone thinks and I don't care if they have Fe peer pressure I'm going to have my Min tea my cam tea and if they want to drink I'm not making anyone feel bad about drinking they can do whatever they want this is their Temple you know this is my temple I get to choose and they shouldn't make me feel bad that I don't want to you know so um then I kind of stood up for myself I think that happens after your 40s like you care less about what other people think and um wait till you're 50 oh my God I can't wait for that I'm gonna like he's he's gonna be amazing but I think the thing you mentioned you mentioned like being directed and and and being kind of dedicated to your path and and and I feel like that's the underappreciated aspect of of understanding you and your career a lot of people arrive in New York City every single day with a similar dream or ambition that you had when you were a young person and you arrived there and a lot of those people are very beautiful you're beautiful but that doesn't tell the story of how you translated like an opportunity into the career that you had and I think between the lines there is an intense work ethic and a very intentional approach to what you were doing like how did you apply those skills like what is the differentiator between you and the career that you've enjoyed versus you know the other beautiful people who aren't enjoying the same kind of career you can't and you're not allowed to say luck or you're you know no I don't believe I don't believe in luck I don't believe in luck I believe in hard work and but I believe in um I mean I think discipline but I also believe that I always treated everyone the way I like to be treated and I've always was appreciative I have this immense sense of gratitude for just being there so even though you know people were like oh you know you you know when I was 19 I was like I want the model of you know the model of the year and everybody's like how does it feel to be it didn't really it doesn't matter to me because quite frankly I never saw myself as a motel it's just not something I didn't drink the Kool-Aid I didn't believe because I was a model or because I I became successful in this job like I was better than anybody I just and I didn't believe that I believe that I just got to learn that craft really well and I understood what the job entail and like I learned how to do the job really well but by no means is what defined me it's just something I did it's not it's not who I am I don't know if you know it's like I go there I had this opportunity at you know 13 14 years old when I finally left home and and and and St pursued this career that really I thought it was just really I did it for the money I did it because I was like what else am I going to do at 14 years old that I can help my family you know I don't have any other jobs that are offering me an opportunity so I'll take this one so for me it was really like a job so I never like it didn't kind of Define me I kind of did it my way like I never became like you know it was like oh it needs to be glamorous I was never glamorous I'm a jeans and t-shirt type of girl like I if I needed to go to parties or hang out with this type of people I never did any of that like I went there I did my job I did the best that I could I never was late in my life for my jobs like never showed up like late I was there before everyone I was there 100% you know I I I just wanted to make sure that if people were booking me and they they were trusting in me that I was going to show up and deliver you know and I think that's kind of what it was I did it my way you know and it didn't broke me kind of Cu I saw you know people in this business you know you can lose yourself because if you drink the Kool-Aid if you start thinking you know like you lose yourself in it I never lost myself it was just a job and it's still just a job I can't even believe I'm still doing it sometimes I go in and I do it you it's not it's not what I do full- time anymore but it's just one of those things that you know I got to do this I got to make a career out of it and got to make a great living and help my family and I I have wonderful you know I got to travel the world and learn different languages and and and all of that and that's how I see it I don't see it as a you know I don't see myself you're not defined by it you're not you're not caught up in in the kind of dark underbelly of that very strange world this whole world is like almost like a parallel reality for me you know what I mean if something is like a switch on button I go there I do my job I take my picture I turn it off I go home and I have the same friends I have my my family I'm very close with my family but I think you're very good at seeing opportunities when they arise and you tell a little story in in in the new book about being 14 and on route to Tokyo and your parents gave you your dad gave you a little bit of money that was intended for getting a cab from that's the first day arve in s Paulo and instead of using that money oh it was you were super young right so you had a little bit of money to take a tab and you had the presence of mind to say this money would be better spent buying some clothes so I can do better in my auditions or whatnot um which isn't like that's not normal like that's somebody who's thinking ahead who's planning long term who's understanding that they have an opportunity in front of them and trying to figure out how to make the most out of it with limited resources and I think that speaks to or says a lot about your sensibility or your perspective as a business person yeah I mean it's so interesting to see it that way I mean I for me at that moment in time you know I I I just felt like I did something else than that you know that was one of the things and now that you're saying that I actually did that throughout because I bought my first apartment when I was 19 years old and when everybody was buying you know designer bags all the models and you know like remember I didn't know I was going to last in this business I thought like I didn't go to school I didn't go to high school I didn't you know I I left I I went to work and whenever I go I go back I thought I was going to be a farmer or something because I just always love the land and but I I didn't think like you know like where am I going to go from here so I have to make sure that I have at least a place to live I'm a cancer so I want to have like a stable home and when I was 19 you know people start flying me first class because I was like the model of the year right saw all the clients now are paying me first class I was exchanging those tickets for Coach classes because I was every two three days in a different country and instead of paying um my you know a rent in an apartment I pay I put down a down payment for an apartment and then I was paying my mortgage instead of paying rent and you're 19 and I was 19 so I I own my first apartment as 19 years old it was like a in in New York City it was like facing a wall of another building mind you he was like a very apartment you know that does require some maturity and some long-term thinking well well because I just thought to myself like you know I don't know how long I'm going to stay here you know I i' I at least I have to have a place to live if I like I'm not going to live empty-handed you know what I mean like what do I care about a bag or like what is that going to give me it's not going to be a roof over my head I need to make sure that I have that I can spend in the right places but I think that sense came from my mother because we grew up you know my mother was a cashier in the bank my father had like lots of different jobs like he had a real estate job but he was you know my mom they literally we we were like really simple people and grew up in two bedrooms with six girls and and and money was all always tight so I learned how to is the same thing in the book is like how do you prepare how do you not waste food I mean everything is like I think in my life I was kind of like raised that way you know what I mean kind of plan ahead like for tomorrow so you make sure that you have like food for everyone like like we're going to reuse the meat we cook on the barbecue and we're going to put it in the rice we're going to have carera so we're going to have an abundant meal because we have the rest of the you know what I mean it's kind of like that it's like you put money in the bank so when you retire you have something to to live off when you can no longer work the same thing I feel about food like you eat the right food so when you're older you you're able to have the energy and your body is functioning because you made the right choices so for me it's the same thing you know it's kind of making like just being kind of what is necessary here like do I really need this what do I need more do I need a roof over my head or do I need this this bags and this stuff do I need to take a taxi when I arrive to the model apartment when I'm 14 even though I never been to the city or can I take the subway and save the money so I can get the clothes for the casting and maybe I can get a job it's like it's kind of thinking like with the resources that I have right now what is the smartest how is the smartest way to use them I guess if you're like me never without a water bottle let's get it right people allow me to rock your world with my new favorite toy that's actually not a toy at all it's a non-negotiable essential camel backs Podium steel 100% % leak proof water bottle emphasis on leak proof for all 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it's you know what it is it's a character I always call call it her because I think being a MTO what I understood as being a motto is to play a character in a silent movie you know you get to experience all these different charact all these different aspects of of of being a woman let's say because one designer wants you to be more androgynous you know one designer was you know I remember diding a Balin Saga campaign I was like they made me a boy I was like literally like a week I was like a man a boy and in one I was like the sexy Versace campaign like you know like with big hair and like you know pushup bra you know so it was kind of like I got to play from the the androgynous girl to the very sexy to the tomb boy like I got to you know I mean you should see I don't know if you ever saw my book the other one that was like the 20 years I did a 20 well I watched the video that you did where you kind of went through it and you were talking about what was going on with you with each of those photographs yeah so it's it's it's it's really about kind of playing these different roles but it's just instead of you talking like you would be in a movie you're just you got to make the image that picture that one capture image to to it's a performance art it's a performance art but it's such a weird world I know that like Alexander McQueen he was like he was really the Catalyst right he was the guy who gave me the chance you know he gave me the the chance but when you watch his shows or some of these other shows like the designs are are stunning and gorgeous but they're also totally inaccessible it's like who wears this does anybody is there anybody in the world that even wear I mean if you're Lady Gaga I guess or somebody like that but like yeah it's a fantasy and so it's curious like how does that translate into I guess it's just how you feel and how you think about a particular designer or a brand and not so much about directly selling those designs to the person who's going to the department store or the boutique right yeah they're not thinking I don't even understand the business model of the whole thing yeah I me neither to be honest with you but I think it's a really I mean I think it has changed a lot uh since I started like I see a big shift because I think before there was a lot more creativity there was allowed a lot more creativity I think you know McQueen or JN galano you know the shows and stuff like you were like in a world like sure and the photographers being rock stars themselves oh yeah and and it was a I think it was a moment in time where there was so much less about selling but it was much more about the the inspiration and the aspir aspiring you know the aspiration of creating like a fantasy and like a and it was a lot of fun then I have to say at that time because I would have been dead I wouldn't have survived it I would have gone all in I would have been at every after hours party it would have been a disaster you see I was in bed like studying my astrology books like by 10 you know that was me I was like by 10 I was like oh no I have to go I was like I have to start early so I can go to bed early so for me it was a a different thing but um you know but I guess for me I also fell very responsible because I didn't want to one of the The Guiding lights for me I really believe was my parents because I saw how hard they work and I didn't want to disappoint them so I think part of like me being so stay on the line was like I'm not disappointing my parents I don't care if they're not here they are going to know what I'm doing like I remember part of the reason why I got so freaked out about the McQueen show and they sent me out like without a top because I couldn't speak English and they didn't even do a feeding anyway so then I was I was like oh my God if my parents see this they're GNA make me go back home and then I you know what is it like when you go internet but there was no internet in 1997 19 it wasn't so thank God because they didn't even saw that otherwi they would have been like what what are you doing I be like I don't know and you have five siblings right I have five sisters I'm a middle child I have two older sisters and two younger sisters and I'm a twin MH in the middle so we like the the sandwich like the cheese in the sandwich being Brazilian uh you're connected to the Amazon and to climate change issues and you've done a lot in terms of your environmental advocacy and clean water initiatives talk a little bit about how that began and and what that looked like now you know I um I've always been a big um basically like a child of nature I always tell my children when they ask you know what's your religion they say Mom we don't go to church I say you know what you're in church every day I say I say what do I say when people ask what my what my religion is I say love is your religion and nature is your church that's your Cathedral that's the big church that's our Temple you know so you honor your temple you love your temple you CU that's the only reason why we are all alive because this whole ecosystem is making it possible you know to grow our food to give us to provide us with all the things we need to survive so U and that's how I grew up I felt that way and especially having a grandmother that everything was from the earth you know she grew everything she ate and and uh you know the Earth was giving us the herbs that we needed to like when we fell ill and and I grew up in that way so when you grew up in that way and you grew up running around bare feet you know I come from a small village and anytime you want to eat something you grab there was like a tangerine tree or like a orange tree or is a plum tree and you just go and pick up the fruit from the tree we never bought fruits from the supermarket you know you go either you had it in your backyard or your neighbor had it or the other neighbor you know somebody had the fruit he wanted to eat you just go grab it so I think when you leave with that connection to Nature you have a different appreciation it's like so I feel like nature is just like it's it's it's me like I think we are n you know we are that and I think this connection from nature for me is not something it's just something I've always known you know is how I grew up and so for me um taking care of which I love which is nature is natural um so the but the first time I realized there was really problems happening is when I went to actually spend some time uh with the indigenous people in shingu area of the Amazon in the 2004 and that's when the first time I realized you know pesticide what's what pesticides were doing where mining was doing how they were contaminating the rivers and basically all the indigenous tribes they were living and depending on the that water they were getting sick and even though they were living very wholesomely you know with nature and you know by the impact that the big farms and different Mining and all that stuff was having um was really um having a really terrible impact in their in their their livelihoods and and that's when the first time I was like I need to do something about it and that's when I started like I had a flipflop line at the time in Brazil and we gave a percentage you know to that's actually a funny story the the the indigenous people and I was like I wonder what they would do with this with this funds but it was like a group that helped indigenous in Brazil and the funny enough when I did when I turned 40 this was in 2004 so I was like 24 cut to when I'm 40 2020 I was 40 um I wanted to do something for my 40th birthday and I was like oh I want to plant some trees in the in in the Amazon and how we going to do it so we looked around for who can help us do that and we contacted the the people that are working with the indigenous people that we knew in in Brazil and they're like we have the largest seed bank in the Amazon and we started with the money with the whole program that you gave in 2004 that money that was for the sale of the flipflops now years later they had the largest seed bank of you know the indigenous they they they collected the larger seed bank and this is how with that whole group of people we basically planted over 300,000 trees in that area of the Amazon so that was like years later so that's just how funny how life goes but for me because I was so connected to nature and I always wanted to help and my dad always said you know water is the most important thing and of course I saw that with the indigenous people because that's how they were all getting sick because all the the you know residue of Mining and and and pesticides were going into their water in my little village we were having a lot of problems with agriculture as well where there was a lot of runoffs from Roundup and all the stuff that they use in agriculture all the pesticides and stuff and it was getting a lot of people sick so we actually did the AGA limpa program in 200 I think it was 20 the N or I don't remember when we started but it was like a long time ago and I funded it and my dad who's also a sociologist worked with the university and we and we basically regenerated the whole area of the river that was kind of you know getting the water to the city and we were able to clean it it took us like a few years to do it you know it was pretty simple because all we had to do I mean it was not simple my dad is the one who did the work it was simpler for me I just kind of funded it but he was there every day he had to work with I don't know how many farmers you had to take their pie of land and kind of grow the native species Forest you know the native Forest back so then the there's a buffer there was a buffer and then the root systems could could filtrate it before all that stuff would go into the river and then that was the agal limpa project and that was one of the projects we did to clean the water and anyway so there's lots of different things but in overall thing my my thing is you know we got to take care of Mother Earth she takes care of us you know when people say to me oh we're going to save the planet I say you're that's such an ego thing you know as humans we think we're going to save anything the planets is in her own process of evolution this is a you know it's I mean dinosaurs were here before us and you know lur I mean so many different civilizations the planet will be fine that's what I always say I say please don't fool yourself I think we really saving ourselves we need to yeah I say there's no Sav we need re ourselves back yeah this is really about us protecting the resources and and taking care of what we really need for our survival because once we are gone the planet is going to regenerate I mean I've seen this over and over again the planet regenerates itself so quickly you know because it's it's just a very intelligent we need to learn from nature instead of like trying to control nature we need to just like take a humble pill and and learn from the Big Mama we've moved so far away from that and we do live in this dualistic mindset where we think there's you know our environments and then there's nature or there's us and that's outside um but really understanding that you're never out of nature as you as you said um I think it's the first point of trying to really deepen your relationship with the world in which you live we all live and share and I think when it comes to the Amazon like we all hear about deforestation and all the you know clearing that's going on for cattle grazing and the strip mining and all the stuff that you mentioned but it's an abstraction especially for you know people in North America like we know what's going on we know it's bad but I've never visited there like I've never seen it myself and you being Brazilian gives you kind of a deeper appreciation and understanding of the extent of it you know I think it's how people tell the story because I think it's a lot deeper than you know I think people like depending on the industry that wants to benefit from something that tell the story and they say okay this is what we're going to do is about the cing oh yeah it's so crazy a lot of NOS go in there and they say we're going to have an NGO because we're going to like protect Amazon but they're meantime they're the owners of the bigger paper company that comes from the Amazon they are just not you know what I mean so there it's not not all is as it seems no it's it's a very it's a wild wild west there and one of the biggest you know I've been there a few times and also done a lot of um just kind of like talking to people and understanding what happens there and a lot of the you know there's ancient Woods there and a lot of that goes to Europe so like what a lot of the the cattle for example is what they use to kind of occupy the land but what they're really after which is really valuable there is like gold and Min m you know the the rare medals the rare medals yeah the rare medals and the gold and all that stuff that's in there that's what interest this like you know the different um countries let's say they are not brail when they and because it's so corrupt unfortunately you know Brazil is very corrupt the politicians are very corrupt what happens is they sell those rights to those countries and then we have what we have and then the cattle like in the end they just kind of put them there because they have to occupy the land after they REM because they have to enter if you go there after they removed everything because they have to remove the value the value then they then they put all the cows there that's what they do so they remove the ancient wood they they remove the precious metals and and but they have to get there because if you fly over it it mean you're flying for hours over just a Green carpet so for you to have access to that you have to you can't just like clear cut because it grows so what they do to keep the the the forest from growing they just throw because it's very fertile the soil as soon as you cut because imagine that soil is been there like receiving all those back healthy bacteria from the leaves falling super fertile So within like three days you can Grass Grows Right and then in order for the trees not to keep growing because if you just leave abandon that's what's going to happen the birds are going to carry the seeds they're going to drop the seeds they're going to things are going to start growing again and then they won't have access you know so they kind of it's just like a cycle like but what is really after what they're really after it is the big stuff is the is the and and it's not unfortunately you know it's h it's so sad you know is greed mhm in the end of the day is greed and is greed by people that you know they don't have those natural resources where they are and and they understand the situation in Brazil and how corrupt the this the the 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their best interest from a wellness perspective I think the number one thing I feel is like monkey see monkey does right I think you have to be the example you have to leave it um cuz I think whatever you say is one thing and whatever you do you they need to kind they need to whatever you say whatever you do they have to be the same thing right sympatico yeah they have to be sympatico and um and that's what it is and and I think for the kids for my kids were were a lot easier because I was home a lot with them so I was you know taking them to school every day making their breakfast you know just having my Gardens at home growing the food so when the kids would come for play dates at the house you know my kids were grabbing like everything raw cucumbers carrots like green beans they were just grabbing it from the garden and like collecting things and putting in the basket it was like a game for them and it was like oh friends are coming over why are we going to grab for the for to Door picnic outside and then so they grew up in that way you know they they uh so it was easier for me to feed them healthier food and and and and explain to them you know we always compost it we had bees at our house um so you know they they were learning about you know when The Beekeeper would come and they explain you know how much be how much honey can you take and how much money how much honey do you leave for the bees and how does a the how does a queen bee work and all the so they were they're emotionally connected they were emotionally connected they were part of that like I was as a kid so um so for them is really natural and they were also homeschooled for the last three years um during the you know the whole pandemic thing I and we moved from Boston to Tampa so um it was a whole new world for them so I I homeschooled them and now they just went back to school but I have to tell you I see a huge difference especially because my son is 14 now so he wants to kind of push back this is what I'm getting at oh yeah well how old kid well they range from 28 to 16 and each one of there's four and each of them is different um but it's a delicate dance because you know we raised our kids similarly um but they reach a certain age and part of individuation and maturing is taking ownership for your own choices and understanding what you stand for and what you don't and in order to really Define that and hone that you have to go out and kind of push the envelope and try new things otherwise it's just something you're doing because that's the way you were raised and that's what your parents told you as opposed to really owning it for yourself and so so we have learned that you have to have the brains very loose and and let them go out and do what they want to do and control the environment at home but be you know very kind of nonplused if they go and make a choice that you wouldn't make or whatever and just be curious about it and allow them the space to do that and you know you hope they come back and you know do it the way you taught them to um and sometimes they do and sometimes they don't and again every one of them is different in our case but as they get to a certain point and especially you know when they're with peers and friends and they're in social situations those things they have to learn for themselves and you have to allow them to I think it's so interesting so you have to let go a little bit oh let go and let God yeah I tell myself that is like a mantra you know and and and I I I remind myself of like my mom let me leave home she emancipated me and I was leing in Japan at 14 and there was no cell phones like I call you know can you imagine doing that for one of your children right now no and actually you know what it's so funny because I was having a conversation with my son about that he um he was complaining you know I have chores in my house you know kids have to do their chores so set the table wash the dishes you know now I make a point you know I cook at you know they come from school I'm cooking you know they so one has to set the table whoever sets the table the other has to wash the dishes and there is like you have to clean your room you have to do the basic stuff you know my daughter is doing amazingly she loves it and she's like really good and very proud of herself mom look how good I cleaned the dishes like she's really good and she's washing herself she's not putting it in the machine she wants to learn how to really wash it and and and do it right and she's very focused on it my son is like always like why do I have to do this you know so actually we had like a breakthrough this Christmas this this whole holiday season because I said he says to me I'm going to leave home when I'm 18 mom and I don't know if I'm going to go to college you didn't go to college you didn't go to school I'm going to just leave home when I'm 18 and I'm going to do this and I'm going to do that I'm like okay that's great so you're going to leave in your own apartment and who's going to cook for you and who's going to wash your dishes and who's going to clean your clothes who's going to do that and he's like for a second he's like because you're not going to have a chef and like a you know like and he was thinking for a second and I say well this is why when mommy tells you to do those things at home you know is because I want to give you more tools for your tool boox because when you learn how to do those things and they become second nature to you then you don't even have to think about it you become empowered to do it for yourself you don't depend on anybody and that's nothing it's amazing to be able to do that I said you know what made me feel so like strong and capable when I left my home because my mom taught me how to do those things so when I left home and I was leaving by myself at 14 years old I was first at 13 at 14 I moved to Japan but because I was leaving in the mod's apartment I was the only person there who knew how to clean cook iron do absolutely everything in the house because my mom taught me and it was easy for me I didn't think it was a struggle I was happy to do it and I was happy to to do it for the other girls that didn't know how to do it but if you're going to be planning on leaving on your own at 18 who do you think is going to do all those things for you so all I'm telling you is like take advantage that mommy's here for you right now and I'm able to teach you all those things and you can do it at your time I'm not telling you like at this time you have to wash the dishes so let me just help you I'm going to create a list for you and you just have to do them and you can decide if you want to wash clothes once or twice a week you can decide if you want to wash the dishes right after dinner or before you go to bed whatever you want but if you learn how to do those things you're going to see how empowered you're going to feel and the more tools we can put like the more things like the simple things like that that you can learn and that you can equip your tool box to do you're just going to be just that much like capable and and and there's nothing more fulfilling than feeling like you're able to do stuff that you're capable and then he looked at me and he's like okay mom so when we get back home you give me that list and I'm going to do it I'm like I wow I was going to say like he actually he actually receiv that I I think I have a breakthrough I think I got a breakthrough with the hormones are raging like whatever mom you know storming off like you can get you can get that reaction too that was good good job don't you think that was a good thing but but I used but you see it was a moment that I used what he said because when he thought to himself that's true how am I going to do all that stuff I said you don't want to live in like a you know a messy stinky place that is not clean like you know you want to like have you know so you need to know how to do this stuff and I think all I I see like all the things that happen in life like that like different tools we acquire you know even the job that I you know my job like all the tools that I've acquired in this job all the things that I've learned to do um that I don't know when I'm going to use I use them for my job but maybe I'm going to they going to be useful like in 20 years from my life sure but you came from very different circumstances it's the it's the Peril of success right like you and and the kid's dad like worked very hard to achieve all of these things in life and now they're reared in you know like an insane degree of privilege and it becomes more difficult to instill that kind of work ethic into somebody who you know grows up that way I think you're correct I think it becomes a lot more difficult but I think goes back to the discipline and it goes back to priorities and I think it for me it becomes about what kind of you know I I feel like I'm their Guardian because we don't possess our children right I mean we just come here they come through us but they're as much as our teachers as we are they're teachers and we're constantly learning and teaching you know in every relationship in our life and and I feel that we get this moment in time which is very short in a way that we get to influence our children because then they go I mean look at my parents they had 14 years to influence me then I was out in the world and I never went back and I keep remembering like what are all the things that if they wouldn't have taught me those things where would I be today and I'm so grateful for them for for those lessons and I feel like yes I grew up in very different circumstances than my kids and it is a bit more challenging to have them you know make their bed and wash the dishes and clean their you know when I have a person that can do it too but I make a point of me doing it so then they learn that oh Mommy's doing the dinner Mommy is making the breakfast mommy is so they're like weel you have to model and I feel like it's a different kind of modeling is it is the type of modeling that I prefer it's it's the type of modeling that I find to be the important type of modeling because that's the you know I mean what's Mo the most important thing you're going to do in your life I feel like raising children is is by far the most challenging thing I've ever done and the most uh fulfilling at the same time and you know but I feel that if if I if I don't do that if I don't equip my children to be good capable assets you know for themselves in their lives if they're not going to be then I fail I I feel yeah you haven't done your job then I haven't done my job I mean I feel that's my job I mean that's a job I do to kind of make a living so I can like you know put foot on the table and have but my real job as as I think as a as a mom and I chose to be a mom so I have to show up for my kids and I feel like this things that my you know I think is really what shaped me and what made me who I am today was definitely the upbringing that I had and and what my parents how they guided me and I feel like that's really important so I make that a priority in my life to make sure that my kids are going to have even though they don't have those same needs you know to do those things because my mom didn't have a a person she could pay to come clean the house we had to you clean the bathroom you clean the you know it was like a list all of us have to share between us who's going to do what and we grew up that way and it was kind of fun because you know I was always I always love the cleaning part you know I love organizing and cleaning I feel like a clean house is a clean mind is like a what's out is in you know if like if everything is organized outside I can think um and I tell my kids that and I feel that um if I can really get them to do those simple things in life you know and and learn those things and teach them how to be self-sufficient and capable human beings I feel like I've done my job and then I can rest and then whatever else they do the choices they make if they choose to eat the food that I fed them when they were little if now they want to go eat you know whatever or I mean it's going to be what they're going to do you know they're going to choose their friends hopefully they they choose wisely because in the end of the day they're going to be the one dealing with the consequences of their actions and I always tell them like listen you know you're going to go out there and you're going to make the Cho whatever choice you make there are going to be consequences you're dealing with those consequences me this is your life and sometimes they need to they need to make those mistakes and face those consequences like we had I mean how many mistakes that I mean I have and those those experiences are formative like I'm sure if you look in the rear view mirror and think about the panic attacks that you were having on airplanes and your inability to get into an elevator and you know this desire to jump off your balcony on some level you wouldn't wish that experience on anybody but you probably wouldn't wna change your experience either because it's set in motion this whole sensibility and way of being that you now have and I think with kids they regardless of whether they hear you in the moment or whether they go out into the world and make a bunch of mistakes like they come back yeah and whatever you taught them it's in there and at some point when they're ready or whatever like they return to it and you know and and I think to to trust that it's very important and I also feel like because if you try to overly control it you're going to drive them away absolutely and and you know I think for me I keep going back to me as a kid and the trust my parents had in me to let me go and I wouldn't be who I am today if it wasn't for them trusting in me and for all the mistakes that I've made and then had to come the other side and figure out for myself so I think it's important to give our children the Dignity of Their Own process you know because we had a dignity you know we have to go through our own process to become who we are and I think as long as they know that we are there and what what is our values you know is like those things that are important what is what is that we stand for what's important for us you know as as as as a as a value as a core value as as as a being a good human being and a good person and if you thought that your children and and they and they got it in the end of the day they're going to go out there in the world and they're going to have to make their mistakes and I I think the best thing you can do for them it's is just be there for them whenever they they come back and if they want your help you know and I think it's it's hard because you want to protect them like you can put Bobble wrap on them so like nothing will touch them and they will be safe but in the end of the day that's unrealistic and it's like it doesn't work anyway you know what I like this idea you know there's a metaphor of the butterfly imagine the caterpillar as she's transforming into becoming the butterfly she's you know eating eating all the you know until she finally starts spinning into a cocoon and and then she has to like go through that whole stous process if you ever seen like you know they turn into GP yeah but they're like but it's exactly it's just and it's really kind of like hard to like when they're coming out it's like really awkward and it looks like they're very strenuous and very difficult so if you go in there and you try to help them come out you're going to them you're going to the butterfly and she won't be able to have the strength she needs struggle is the struggle is what crucial to the the growth and you have to give them the Dignity of their own process you have to be and I and I keep reminding myself I cannot take away that opportunity for them because my parents gave me the opportunity for me to go through my own challenges and I grew and and I want my kids to have that same opportunity because whoever they're going to become is going to be based on what their choice is and hopefully I gave them enough good examples and and and good um values where they would make the choices that is right for them you know what is it that you want people to understand or take away from the new book and and how you are modeling this lifestyle um whether it's dietary changes Lifestyle Changes uh movement practices how can somebody who is interested in kind of leveling up across the board begin the process of of making those changes in their life you know it's funny you know because when I decided to do a cookbook I'm the farthest thing there is from a chef let me tell you something I I am not a chef let me just like let's be honest you've got a private Chef in home that person is taking care of everything not anymore I used to you don't anymore no I don't I don't it's no the last two years I don't you're cooking your own meals yes I'm cooking my own meals yeah I I grew up there way and I want like I told you like my priority is showing my kids what I believe it's important for them and and and I can't I can't say oh this is important and then I have and I'm not doing it you know what I mean so it has to be cohesive right and and I think that for me um really being like living what I believe is very important and I was showing my kids that this is important to me like the only way I'm going to show them that is by doing that so yes I had chefs and this is how I learn how to cook a lot of the things a lot of the recipes in the book are like inspired by the things that I created with the chefs that I throughout the years I had the opportunity to you know to really work with Incredible people incredible Chef people that love food as much as I do because I love food um but was really an idea for me to look I can say go and meditate go and exercise you know I believe meditation I believe rest I believe um exercise I believe nutrition all of those things are extremely important for you to be able to take kind of ownership of your health and really take care of yourself and have and work on just having a more clear mind and just feeling more connected to yourself I think all of those things are different aspects of it but the reason about the cookbook is quite frankly I was seeing kids were coming to our house and in play dates and and moms will come and be like how did you get my kid to eat broccoli or roasted vegetables or and it was like so simple and I was like oh maybe we can share how to make some simple recipes that are super easy you can make it like in 10 minutes and you know moms some you know you just sometimes feel overwhelmed and I know because life is busy there's so so much going on so I was like how can I help in this way and also I feel like food is a perfect time for you to practice being present and mindful because you can eat like on a rush and not being present and the food have a one effect in your body or you can do something which is what I talk about in the book is like every time I look at my food not only the act of preparing your food there so much loves and you're touching the food and you're connecting with your food that's one thing but even if you're not the one cooking your food just to take a moment to bless your food to acknowledge that that is something that is alive that you're taking it and you're that's also your source of life you know so it's kind of like connecting to the food in that way I think it it does something because everything is energy so you're having a transfer of energy with something and with the intention that you're eating it has a different I I feel huge you know when I start doing that does make a difference how he has a different just being present and being connected to what you're doing having gratitude for that moment and you get to do that three times a day you know I mean now I have a juice once a day but I still blast my juice but it's just kind of like it's just this book what I would like to to to for people to take is like it can be really simple it doesn't have to be complicated to to eat healthy and really like if you have plans you know my mom taught me you know since I was a kid like no food waste so how can we organize our meals so can there's a big thing about like reducing waste yeah there for me that's huge and also like me planning like if you're going to buy because or you know food sourcing that's huge it's not about having something with a lot of condiments and a lot of stuff it's just like keep it simple but buying really great quality products like if you can do that and then instead of like because a lot of people are like oh and then you buy organic and then you throw it out because it's like you know it spoils much faster and I'm like yeah but if you have a meal planning and I and I teach that I kind of give some suggestions in the book like my mom did that I grew up like that because she didn't have time you know she was working all the time so she had like in the fridge like what we going to have for the whole week so she would go to the groceries and she would buy and then the things were allowed to the next day so you would always know what we were eating and things that wouldn't be eaten could be easily transferred for the next day and be made into the next organiz so that nothing spoils and you're so nothing spoils and you never had food waste because you're always taking it from one day to the next so is never wasting you always	to disappoint them so I think part of like me being so stay on the line was like I'm not disappointing my parents I don't care if they're not here they are going to know what I'm doing like I remember part of the reason why I got so freaked out about the McQueen show and they sent me out like without a top because I couldn't speak English and they didn't even do a feeding anyway so then I was I was like oh my God if my parents see this they're GNA make me go back home and then I you know what is it like when you go internet but there was no internet in 1997 19 it wasn't so thank God because they didn't even saw that otherwi they would have been like what what are you doing I be like I don't know and you have five siblings right I have five sisters I'm a middle child I have two older sisters and two younger sisters and I'm a twin MH in the middle so we like the the sandwich like the cheese in the sandwich being Brazilian uh you're connected to the Amazon and to climate change issues and you've done a lot in terms of your environmental advocacy and clean water initiatives talk a little bit about how that began and and what that looked like now you know I um I've always been a big um basically like a child of nature	5	4	2	to disappoint them so I think part of like me being so stay on the line was like I'm not disappointing my parents I don't care if they're not here they are going to know what I'm doing like I remember part of the reason why I got so freaked out about the McQueen show and they sent me out like without a top because I couldn't speak English and they didn't even do a feeding anyway so then I was I was like oh my God if my parents see this they're GNA make me go back home and then I you know what is it like when you go internet but there was no internet in 1997 19 it wasn't so thank God because they didn't even saw that otherwise they would have been like what what are you doing I be like I don't know and you have five siblings right I have five sisters I'm a middle child I have two older sisters and two younger sisters and I'm a twin MH in the middle so we like the the sandwich like the cheese in the sandwich being Brazilian uh you're connected to the Amazon and to climate change issues and you've done a lot in terms of your environmental advocacy and clean water initiatives talk a little bit about how that began and and what that looked like now you know I um I've always been a big um basically like a child of nature	and you have five siblings right I have five sisters	3,-5,4	0,0,0	3	-5	4	0	0	0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjK5ahIgsHA	4,193	rjK5ahIgsHA	2024-03-25 00:00:00	the choices that you're making are really either supporting you or not straight from the pages of Victoria Secret please welcome jaelle bunin gazelle bunin gazelle has walked in nearly 500 fashion shows and great the covers of more than 1,200 different magazines on paper like you're perhaps highly unrelatable you know what it is it's a character that's the job I do to kind of make a living so I can like you know put foot on the table raising children is is by far the most challenging thing I've ever done it's a different kind of modeling is the type of modeling that I prefer food is a perfect time for you to practice being present and mindful because it can be really simple it doesn't have to be complicated to eat healthy nature is just like it's me instead of like trying to control nature we need to just like take a humble pill and and learn from the Big Mama [Music] today's episode is brought to you by the awesome organizations that make this show [Music] possible so nice to meet you nice to meet you too so excited to have you here today yes when this opportunity presented itself I was like of course I want to talk to Jazelle and then I had my own like sort of mini panic attack we're going to get into panic attacks I'm like what could I possibly talk to this person about the alltime great super model of all time everybody knows this on paper like you're perhaps highly unrelatable but then the more you dig into your story and the more I kind of learned about your Arc and your past and what brought you to this place there's so much that's deeply relatable and your kind of transformation story is remarkably similar to mine although you did yours at like 23 I was 40 um but there's so much in there so I thought it would be cool to kind of um talk a little bit about what it was like what happened and how you made these changes in your life because I think you're in this interesting new season right now where despite the fact that you've been this Wellness Advocate and wellness Warrior for a long time my sense is that there's a there's a more full Embrace of of that now with kind of how you see yourself and what's important to you a well thank you for the introduction you know the funny thing is I you know people's you know what I did for a living is something that kind of just happened to me at 14 years old you know it was it was like hey do you want to be a model and I thought oh I can help my family you know I can do make a living and and help you know I have five sisters and and all that so modeling to me is something that is um an opportunity that came along like I think in life you have these opportunities that either you take that train and then see where it goes you know and I never even believed that this was going to take me and I was going to be doing this for almost 30 years you know it's it's one of those things that I was like oh I'll start doing this job and you know send money home and help my sisters go through school and do all that and um and maybe in five years you know I'll get a house because I didn't even go to school you know I I I was emancipated at 14 yeah you were in Tokyo at 14 I was living in Japan without speaking English and J or Japanese and that's when I when I start learning the language of of of energy you know what I mean because you don't have to understand the language you just have to feel you know something there's a lot more that has been said without words you know sure so I start learning about that um but I think that I went through this journey of modeling which was something I thought was going to last five years and I was just going to help my family out for a little bit and it just kept going you know it just kept happening you know I I didn't even think you can have longevity in this career because it's not what I what I saw really around me happening um but you know I kept it kept working out so I kept doing it and it was kind of a Mindless thing you know when you got in the hamster wheel and I think we do that sometimes in life and you're so young you don't know and you Liv the fast life and all of that so in my early 20s I um developed you know anxiety and panic attacks and all that because you know when you drink a bottle of wine and that because you like I used to be a smoker so I smoke I can't even imagine I used to smoke it feels like a whole different life you know but um it was the late 90s and there was a lot of um drugs and fashion and all that so I thought I was saying just because I was like having some wine and smoking cigarettes everybody was doing way worse things than yeah I'm sure you've seen a lot I've seen a lot yeah that's a whole other show about that that's a whole other story but yeah so um you know so that was the beginning for me to start reconnecting with myself because I think when I was 14 and I got that train my only focus was like how can I be the best that I can do on this and and and that was my focus and and I didn't meure any sacrifice he was like if I had to work 360 days a year and I felt like I couldn't say no because people were giving me a chance and then I was like in this really overdrive uh and burn down my adrenals I found out later when I found this amazing natural Doctor Who told me like listen you don't have any more adrenal they're shut down because you burn them basically I'm like but I'm only 22 you know so um basically I had to change the habits that I you know smoking a pack of cigarettes drinking alcohol every day to myself down coffee all day to keep myself up and also going from you know one time zone to the next I was three days in Paris two days in London one day in New York going back to you know my life was in a living in a suitcase and of course your nervous system is going to freak out you know and the way I was eating it was very you know anything that was in front of me I was just like not mindful about anything you know I was just kind of um like a Workhorse and when that happen to me is when I you know I come from a family that is very my my grandmother had a tea for everything so we never had we were not the kind of you know you get sick let me see this herbal remedy that we you know so yeah you grew up in kind of a small village right in Brazil your grandmother was cultivating herbs and she was the person that everyone would go to for their remedy so you have this sort of background and connection you know with the Earth exactly that you know is kind of lingering in the back of your mind when you're just you know hammering nails and and you know drinking wine and living that life but you're young it's like that's kind of what your 20s are for kind of and you're you're on this like Jet Plane I mean figuratively and literally like your career's taking off on top of that a people pleasing tendency where you feel like you have to say yes to everything and you're just go go go go go yeah and and I think but that was a big wakeup call for me because I think sometimes you know you have to reach rock bottom and when I had that those anxiety and they start becoming like almost CRI because I couldn't get on planes he was just you know I was going to all these doctors and they were like you have to take this stuff and I was just afraid of taking anything because I've never taken anything you know I was a there was a t for for this there you know my grandmother wasn't there so finally you know I wasn't going to take any medication because just the idea of taking something I was like I was normal before how can I go back being what I was you know like I I I didn't have these issues so what's happening long story short I found this doctor I had to replace my habits it was that simple I had to replace these habits that had created the reality I was living at that moment which was you know um really killing me in in so many ways you know killing my spirit killing my and and I replace it with good habits so now instead of smoking cigarettes and having a mocha frappuccino in the morning I'll would go out and do breath work and go out for a run and you know I replace in one day I gave up everything because he he looked at me he said jelle he called me Adrenalina he says do you want to live and I said I do he's like so we going to CH change my diet and that's for the first time in my life that I realized that I I was really like the one who got myself there and I was the only person who could get myself out by the choices that I was making so I had to take full responsibility for what I had created but it was in my power only in my power to change that there were no doctors nobody who was going to save me I had to change um you know the choices I was making and I and I did that and it was incredible because after over a year and a half like really struggling with anxiety and panic attacks and all that within 3 months I was like I never had another incident and it was you know and and once you start meditating I mean at that point this was 20 years ago right it wasn't like people were talking about meditation and yoga any other that um it was just um you know when you sit in silence and you and you reflect which is what we don't really give ourselves time to do because the world is so fastpaced and everything is catching your attention is trying to throw you off your Center you know everything is so busy it's like an overload of information to have that space to go inside and reflect and look and really take a step back I think that was the biggest blessing of my life so really I think what could have killed me is what gave me a whole new life and it was amazing because since then like everything changed like I realized that food is my medicine I realized that I am the director of my own movie that I'm creating my reality based on the choices that I'm making but what I'm choosing to not the people I'm choosing to have around in my life but what type of energy what kind of thoughts I allow to what am I feeding you know what kind of thoughts am I so all of that so that became like a big um changing of seasons for me in my early 20s what were those first couple weeks like if you went completely cold turkey on all of these bad habits I think it was like a drug addict I never was a I guess I was a drug etic only legal drugs because I guess alcohol is a drug and so is cigarettes nicotine and all that and caffeine and all that but they're like socially accepted but I tell you that I had the worst migraine I mean I felt like the I mean maybe that's what a person who's going like you have gone to to rehab right so I'm I don't know what you felt I would love to hear but I for me it was like right I mean I don't know about that sub it's the only way I know how to do it though I don't understand how people kind of phase out of stuff like you have to for me you have to draw the line and step over it and it's going to suck and you're going to be uncomfortable for a while while um but you know that on the other side of that lies all of this opportunity and possibility um but uh and that's what happened to me I think there was that because what I knew I knew that what I was and what if you do what you've always done you're going to get what you've always gotten is that simple and what I realized at that moment that what I what I created for myself was not what I wanted I needed to a drastic change and then he was like draw the line stopped everything in one day and the migraines and all of that like the consequences of what I had done I had to deal with them you know it took me like two weeks I think I was like having the worst migraines just because I didn't know if it was the nicotine the caffeine the alcohol I don't know what it was but it was all of it together and um but then it was amazing because from that experience I I became so much stronger and I and there are lots of different things that happen in my life after that I feel like every time we get tested it's like the Super Mario you know like the little video game when you go to do the big boss like you go through all the phases and you go to level one the big boss is like one it's okay to defeat that one but then the second one is like a tough for big boss and then the third one is you know it's like it's life I feel like that's what life is you get like the new tools so you get equipped and then you go to the next challenge that is a bigger one and then is a bigger one I feel like that's why we're here you know to keep seeing how we can expand how much more we can to grow to evolve to expand to see how strong and how creative and how you know how can how much we can experience of all this wonder how did you how did you plug that into the fast-paced life of of your modeling career because it's one thing if you're living a more kind of grounded atome lifestyle where you can control your food and your environment a little bit better but when you're flying all over the world and you're on these sets and there's craft service and it's junk food like you have to be way ahead of the curve to prepare everything to have everything kind of organized for yourself because how do you you if you're in just hotels all over the place and you arrive at midnight like how are you getting your you know like how did so how did you manage all of that you have to be very discipline I think you know when I I did this book called lessons and um and it was like everything starts to discipline that was like my first chapter and that's what I believe you have to decide you have and then you have to have the discipline to follow through so once you realize that these choices that you are making are having a positive impact in your life you want to continue doing them you know what I mean you don't want to fall back and just something that it didn't feel good that's your past like you don't want to go back there again so you're going to stick to the plan like this is what's working and this is what made me feel good again so I'm going to stick to this and of course it's not 100% you have to be compassionate with yourself too and say you I'll be like you know life is hard as it is you need to bit yourself in the head sometimes if you go and you oh you know I had like um I was exhausted I had like a banana bread or something or I had you know but I think you realize that the choices that you're making are are really either supporting you or not you know supporting you living the life that making you feel good and living the life that you want and is taking to the direction where you want to go or not and then it's just kind of an easier choice to make right and then I feel like when I go to the jobs you know I got to the point in my life where people know how I eat and you know I can tell people like listen this is what I want I want you got extensive riter yeah I kind of you know because I was already working for so long so I I have you know I got to the I guess really the privilege to be able to to kind of say like this is the kind of things that I would like to eat so please at the job you know if you're working 10 12 hours in a studio can we have these things available you know what I mean so then it was easier to keep the food healthy you know um because I think that's so important and then just to say I feel like and then saying no to those things you know like coffee or alcohol or things that I was just so used to because I was still in that same environment the environment hadn't changed I had changed but all of that was around me still but then it was just a choice of saying you know I feel great and I haven't drank alcohol in over two years now too this is something you know I even when I went back drinking after it was very moderate you know I was still like like I would drink socially sometimes you know peer pressure sometimes like oh come on have a drink you know and then you like feel like especially in my world I mean everyone pretty much is like socially having a drink so I would be like okay I'll have a drink but then he got to a point that I was like and that was like 20 years later because it just happened over two years ago I was like I don't want to drink like I don't care what anyone thinks and I don't care if they have Fe peer pressure I'm going to have my Min tea my cam tea and if they want to drink I'm not making anyone feel bad about drinking they can do whatever they want this is their Temple you know this is my temple I get to choose and they shouldn't make me feel bad that I don't want to you know so um then I kind of stood up for myself I think that happens after your 40s like you care less about what other people think and um wait till you're 50 oh my God I can't wait for that I'm gonna like he's he's gonna be amazing but I think the thing you mentioned you mentioned like being directed and and and being kind of dedicated to your path and and and I feel like that's the underappreciated aspect of of understanding you and your career a lot of people arrive in New York City every single day with a similar dream or ambition that you had when you were a young person and you arrived there and a lot of those people are very beautiful you're beautiful but that doesn't tell the story of how you translated like an opportunity into the career that you had and I think between the lines there is an intense work ethic and a very intentional approach to what you were doing like how did you apply those skills like what is the differentiator between you and the career that you've enjoyed versus you know the other beautiful people who aren't enjoying the same kind of career you can't and you're not allowed to say luck or you're you know no I don't believe I don't believe in luck I don't believe in luck I believe in hard work and but I believe in um I mean I think discipline but I also believe that I always treated everyone the way I like to be treated and I've always was appreciative I have this immense sense of gratitude for just being there so even though you know people were like oh you know you you know when I was 19 I was like I want the model of you know the model of the year and everybody's like how does it feel to be it didn't really it doesn't matter to me because quite frankly I never saw myself as a motel it's just not something I didn't drink the Kool-Aid I didn't believe because I was a model or because I I became successful in this job like I was better than anybody I just and I didn't believe that I believe that I just got to learn that craft really well and I understood what the job entail and like I learned how to do the job really well but by no means is what defined me it's just something I did it's not it's not who I am I don't know if you know it's like I go there I had this opportunity at you know 13 14 years old when I finally left home and and and and St pursued this career that really I thought it was just really I did it for the money I did it because I was like what else am I going to do at 14 years old that I can help my family you know I don't have any other jobs that are offering me an opportunity so I'll take this one so for me it was really like a job so I never like it didn't kind of Define me I kind of did it my way like I never became like you know it was like oh it needs to be glamorous I was never glamorous I'm a jeans and t-shirt type of girl like I if I needed to go to parties or hang out with this type of people I never did any of that like I went there I did my job I did the best that I could I never was late in my life for my jobs like never showed up like late I was there before everyone I was there 100% you know I I I just wanted to make sure that if people were booking me and they they were trusting in me that I was going to show up and deliver you know and I think that's kind of what it was I did it my way you know and it didn't broke me kind of Cu I saw you know people in this business you know you can lose yourself because if you drink the Kool-Aid if you start thinking you know like you lose yourself in it I never lost myself it was just a job and it's still just a job I can't even believe I'm still doing it sometimes I go in and I do it you it's not it's not what I do full- time anymore but it's just one of those things that you know I got to do this I got to make a career out of it and got to make a great living and help my family and I I have wonderful you know I got to travel the world and learn different languages and and and all of that and that's how I see it I don't see it as a you know I don't see myself you're not defined by it you're not you're not caught up in in the kind of dark underbelly of that very strange world this whole world is like almost like a parallel reality for me you know what I mean if something is like a switch on button I go there I do my job I take my picture I turn it off I go home and I have the same friends I have my my family I'm very close with my family but I think you're very good at seeing opportunities when they arise and you tell a little story in in in the new book about being 14 and on route to Tokyo and your parents gave you your dad gave you a little bit of money that was intended for getting a cab from that's the first day arve in s Paulo and instead of using that money oh it was you were super young right so you had a little bit of money to take a tab and you had the presence of mind to say this money would be better spent buying some clothes so I can do better in my auditions or whatnot um which isn't like that's not normal like that's somebody who's thinking ahead who's planning long term who's understanding that they have an opportunity in front of them and trying to figure out how to make the most out of it with limited resources and I think that speaks to or says a lot about your sensibility or your perspective as a business person yeah I mean it's so interesting to see it that way I mean I for me at that moment in time you know I I I just felt like I did something else than that you know that was one of the things and now that you're saying that I actually did that throughout because I bought my first apartment when I was 19 years old and when everybody was buying you know designer bags all the models and you know like remember I didn't know I was going to last in this business I thought like I didn't go to school I didn't go to high school I didn't you know I I left I I went to work and whenever I go I go back I thought I was going to be a farmer or something because I just always love the land and but I I didn't think like you know like where am I going to go from here so I have to make sure that I have at least a place to live I'm a cancer so I want to have like a stable home and when I was 19 you know people start flying me first class because I was like the model of the year right saw all the clients now are paying me first class I was exchanging those tickets for Coach classes because I was every two three days in a different country and instead of paying um my you know a rent in an apartment I pay I put down a down payment for an apartment and then I was paying my mortgage instead of paying rent and you're 19 and I was 19 so I I own my first apartment as 19 years old it was like a in in New York City it was like facing a wall of another building mind you he was like a very apartment you know that does require some maturity and some long-term thinking well well because I just thought to myself like you know I don't know how long I'm going to stay here you know I i' I at least I have to have a place to live if I like I'm not going to live empty-handed you know what I mean like what do I care about a bag or like what is that going to give me it's not going to be a roof over my head I need to make sure that I have that I can spend in the right places but I think that sense came from my mother because we grew up you know my mother was a cashier in the bank my father had like lots of different jobs like he had a real estate job but he was you know my mom they literally we we were like really simple people and grew up in two bedrooms with six girls and and and money was all always tight so I learned how to is the same thing in the book is like how do you prepare how do you not waste food I mean everything is like I think in my life I was kind of like raised that way you know what I mean kind of plan ahead like for tomorrow so you make sure that you have like food for everyone like like we're going to reuse the meat we cook on the barbecue and we're going to put it in the rice we're going to have carera so we're going to have an abundant meal because we have the rest of the you know what I mean it's kind of like that it's like you put money in the bank so when you retire you have something to to live off when you can no longer work the same thing I feel about food like you eat the right food so when you're older you you're able to have the energy and your body is functioning because you made the right choices so for me it's the same thing you know it's kind of making like just being kind of what is necessary here like do I really need this what do I need more do I need a roof over my head or do I need this this bags and this stuff do I need to take a taxi when I arrive to the model apartment when I'm 14 even though I never been to the city or can I take the subway and save the money so I can get the clothes for the casting and maybe I can get a job it's like it's kind of thinking like with the resources that I have right now what is the smartest how is the smartest way to use them I guess if you're like me never without a water bottle let's get it right people allow me to rock your world with my new favorite toy that's actually not a toy at all it's a non-negotiable essential camel backs Podium steel 100% % leak proof water bottle emphasis on leak proof for all 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it's you know what it is it's a character I always call call it her because I think being a MTO what I understood as being a motto is to play a character in a silent movie you know you get to experience all these different charact all these different aspects of of of being a woman let's say because one designer wants you to be more androgynous you know one designer was you know I remember diding a Balin Saga campaign I was like they made me a boy I was like literally like a week I was like a man a boy and in one I was like the sexy Versace campaign like you know like with big hair and like you know pushup bra you know so it was kind of like I got to play from the the androgynous girl to the very sexy to the tomb boy like I got to you know I mean you should see I don't know if you ever saw my book the other one that was like the 20 years I did a 20 well I watched the video that you did where you kind of went through it and you were talking about what was going on with you with each of those photographs yeah so it's it's it's it's really about kind of playing these different roles but it's just instead of you talking like you would be in a movie you're just you got to make the image that picture that one capture image to to it's a performance art it's a performance art but it's such a weird world I know that like Alexander McQueen he was like he was really the Catalyst right he was the guy who gave me the chance you know he gave me the the chance but when you watch his shows or some of these other shows like the designs are are stunning and gorgeous but they're also totally inaccessible it's like who wears this does anybody is there anybody in the world that even wear I mean if you're Lady Gaga I guess or somebody like that but like yeah it's a fantasy and so it's curious like how does that translate into I guess it's just how you feel and how you think about a particular designer or a brand and not so much about directly selling those designs to the person who's going to the department store or the boutique right yeah they're not thinking I don't even understand the business model of the whole thing yeah I me neither to be honest with you but I think it's a really I mean I think it has changed a lot uh since I started like I see a big shift because I think before there was a lot more creativity there was allowed a lot more creativity I think you know McQueen or JN galano you know the shows and stuff like you were like in a world like sure and the photographers being rock stars themselves oh yeah and and it was a I think it was a moment in time where there was so much less about selling but it was much more about the the inspiration and the aspir aspiring you know the aspiration of creating like a fantasy and like a and it was a lot of fun then I have to say at that time because I would have been dead I wouldn't have survived it I would have gone all in I would have been at every after hours party it would have been a disaster you see I was in bed like studying my astrology books like by 10 you know that was me I was like by 10 I was like oh no I have to go I was like I have to start early so I can go to bed early so for me it was a a different thing but um you know but I guess for me I also fell very responsible because I didn't want to one of the The Guiding lights for me I really believe was my parents because I saw how hard they work and I didn't want to disappoint them so I think part of like me being so stay on the line was like I'm not disappointing my parents I don't care if they're not here they are going to know what I'm doing like I remember part of the reason why I got so freaked out about the McQueen show and they sent me out like without a top because I couldn't speak English and they didn't even do a feeding anyway so then I was I was like oh my God if my parents see this they're GNA make me go back home and then I you know what is it like when you go internet but there was no internet in 1997 19 it wasn't so thank God because they didn't even saw that otherwi they would have been like what what are you doing I be like I don't know and you have five siblings right I have five sisters I'm a middle child I have two older sisters and two younger sisters and I'm a twin MH in the middle so we like the the sandwich like the cheese in the sandwich being Brazilian uh you're connected to the Amazon and to climate change issues and you've done a lot in terms of your environmental advocacy and clean water initiatives talk a little bit about how that began and and what that looked like now you know I um I've always been a big um basically like a child of nature I always tell my children when they ask you know what's your religion they say Mom we don't go to church I say you know what you're in church every day I say I say what do I say when people ask what my what my religion is I say love is your religion and nature is your church that's your Cathedral that's the big church that's our Temple you know so you honor your temple you love your temple you CU that's the only reason why we are all alive because this whole ecosystem is making it possible you know to grow our food to give us to provide us with all the things we need to survive so U and that's how I grew up I felt that way and especially having a grandmother that everything was from the earth you know she grew everything she ate and and uh you know the Earth was giving us the herbs that we needed to like when we fell ill and and I grew up in that way so when you grew up in that way and you grew up running around bare feet you know I come from a small village and anytime you want to eat something you grab there was like a tangerine tree or like a orange tree or is a plum tree and you just go and pick up the fruit from the tree we never bought fruits from the supermarket you know you go either you had it in your backyard or your neighbor had it or the other neighbor you know somebody had the fruit he wanted to eat you just go grab it so I think when you leave with that connection to Nature you have a different appreciation it's like so I feel like nature is just like it's it's it's me like I think we are n you know we are that and I think this connection from nature for me is not something it's just something I've always known you know is how I grew up and so for me um taking care of which I love which is nature is natural um so the but the first time I realized there was really problems happening is when I went to actually spend some time uh with the indigenous people in shingu area of the Amazon in the 2004 and that's when the first time I realized you know pesticide what's what pesticides were doing where mining was doing how they were contaminating the rivers and basically all the indigenous tribes they were living and depending on the that water they were getting sick and even though they were living very wholesomely you know with nature and you know by the impact that the big farms and different Mining and all that stuff was having um was really um having a really terrible impact in their in their their livelihoods and and that's when the first time I was like I need to do something about it and that's when I started like I had a flipflop line at the time in Brazil and we gave a percentage you know to that's actually a funny story the the the indigenous people and I was like I wonder what they would do with this with this funds but it was like a group that helped indigenous in Brazil and the funny enough when I did when I turned 40 this was in 2004 so I was like 24 cut to when I'm 40 2020 I was 40 um I wanted to do something for my 40th birthday and I was like oh I want to plant some trees in the in in the Amazon and how we going to do it so we looked around for who can help us do that and we contacted the the people that are working with the indigenous people that we knew in in Brazil and they're like we have the largest seed bank in the Amazon and we started with the money with the whole program that you gave in 2004 that money that was for the sale of the flipflops now years later they had the largest seed bank of you know the indigenous they they they collected the larger seed bank and this is how with that whole group of people we basically planted over 300,000 trees in that area of the Amazon so that was like years later so that's just how funny how life goes but for me because I was so connected to nature and I always wanted to help and my dad always said you know water is the most important thing and of course I saw that with the indigenous people because that's how they were all getting sick because all the the you know residue of Mining and and and pesticides were going into their water in my little village we were having a lot of problems with agriculture as well where there was a lot of runoffs from Roundup and all the stuff that they use in agriculture all the pesticides and stuff and it was getting a lot of people sick so we actually did the AGA limpa program in 200 I think it was 20 the N or I don't remember when we started but it was like a long time ago and I funded it and my dad who's also a sociologist worked with the university and we and we basically regenerated the whole area of the river that was kind of you know getting the water to the city and we were able to clean it it took us like a few years to do it you know it was pretty simple because all we had to do I mean it was not simple my dad is the one who did the work it was simpler for me I just kind of funded it but he was there every day he had to work with I don't know how many farmers you had to take their pie of land and kind of grow the native species Forest you know the native Forest back so then the there's a buffer there was a buffer and then the root systems could could filtrate it before all that stuff would go into the river and then that was the agal limpa project and that was one of the projects we did to clean the water and anyway so there's lots of different things but in overall thing my my thing is you know we got to take care of Mother Earth she takes care of us you know when people say to me oh we're going to save the planet I say you're that's such an ego thing you know as humans we think we're going to save anything the planets is in her own process of evolution this is a you know it's I mean dinosaurs were here before us and you know lur I mean so many different civilizations the planet will be fine that's what I always say I say please don't fool yourself I think we really saving ourselves we need to yeah I say there's no Sav we need re ourselves back yeah this is really about us protecting the resources and and taking care of what we really need for our survival because once we are gone the planet is going to regenerate I mean I've seen this over and over again the planet regenerates itself so quickly you know because it's it's just a very intelligent we need to learn from nature instead of like trying to control nature we need to just like take a humble pill and and learn from the Big Mama we've moved so far away from that and we do live in this dualistic mindset where we think there's you know our environments and then there's nature or there's us and that's outside um but really understanding that you're never out of nature as you as you said um I think it's the first point of trying to really deepen your relationship with the world in which you live we all live and share and I think when it comes to the Amazon like we all hear about deforestation and all the you know clearing that's going on for cattle grazing and the strip mining and all the stuff that you mentioned but it's an abstraction especially for you know people in North America like we know what's going on we know it's bad but I've never visited there like I've never seen it myself and you being Brazilian gives you kind of a deeper appreciation and understanding of the extent of it you know I think it's how people tell the story because I think it's a lot deeper than you know I think people like depending on the industry that wants to benefit from something that tell the story and they say okay this is what we're going to do is about the cing oh yeah it's so crazy a lot of NOS go in there and they say we're going to have an NGO because we're going to like protect Amazon but they're meantime they're the owners of the bigger paper company that comes from the Amazon they are just not you know what I mean so there it's not not all is as it seems no it's it's a very it's a wild wild west there and one of the biggest you know I've been there a few times and also done a lot of um just kind of like talking to people and understanding what happens there and a lot of the you know there's ancient Woods there and a lot of that goes to Europe so like what a lot of the the cattle for example is what they use to kind of occupy the land but what they're really after which is really valuable there is like gold and Min m you know the the rare medals the rare medals yeah the rare medals and the gold and all that stuff that's in there that's what interest this like you know the different um countries let's say they are not brail when they and because it's so corrupt unfortunately you know Brazil is very corrupt the politicians are very corrupt what happens is they sell those rights to those countries and then we have what we have and then the cattle like in the end they just kind of put them there because they have to occupy the land after they REM because they have to enter if you go there after they removed everything because they have to remove the value the value then they then they put all the cows there that's what they do so they remove the ancient wood they they remove the precious metals and and but they have to get there because if you fly over it it mean you're flying for hours over just a Green carpet so for you to have access to that you have to you can't just like clear cut because it grows so what they do to keep the the the forest from growing they just throw because it's very fertile the soil as soon as you cut because imagine that soil is been there like receiving all those back healthy bacteria from the leaves falling super fertile So within like three days you can Grass Grows Right and then in order for the trees not to keep growing because if you just leave abandon that's what's going to happen the birds are going to carry the seeds they're going to drop the seeds they're going to things are going to start growing again and then they won't have access you know so they kind of it's just like a cycle like but what is really after what they're really after it is the big stuff is the is the and and it's not unfortunately you know it's h it's so sad you know is greed mhm in the end of the day is greed and is greed by people that you know they don't have those natural resources where they are and and they understand the situation in Brazil and how corrupt the this the the 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their best interest from a wellness perspective I think the number one thing I feel is like monkey see monkey does right I think you have to be the example you have to leave it um cuz I think whatever you say is one thing and whatever you do you they need to kind they need to whatever you say whatever you do they have to be the same thing right sympatico yeah they have to be sympatico and um and that's what it is and and I think for the kids for my kids were were a lot easier because I was home a lot with them so I was you know taking them to school every day making their breakfast you know just having my Gardens at home growing the food so when the kids would come for play dates at the house you know my kids were grabbing like everything raw cucumbers carrots like green beans they were just grabbing it from the garden and like collecting things and putting in the basket it was like a game for them and it was like oh friends are coming over why are we going to grab for the for to Door picnic outside and then so they grew up in that way you know they they uh so it was easier for me to feed them healthier food and and and and explain to them you know we always compost it we had bees at our house um so you know they they were learning about you know when The Beekeeper would come and they explain you know how much be how much honey can you take and how much money how much honey do you leave for the bees and how does a the how does a queen bee work and all the so they were they're emotionally connected they were emotionally connected they were part of that like I was as a kid so um so for them is really natural and they were also homeschooled for the last three years um during the you know the whole pandemic thing I and we moved from Boston to Tampa so um it was a whole new world for them so I I homeschooled them and now they just went back to school but I have to tell you I see a huge difference especially because my son is 14 now so he wants to kind of push back this is what I'm getting at oh yeah well how old kid well they range from 28 to 16 and each one of there's four and each of them is different um but it's a delicate dance because you know we raised our kids similarly um but they reach a certain age and part of individuation and maturing is taking ownership for your own choices and understanding what you stand for and what you don't and in order to really Define that and hone that you have to go out and kind of push the envelope and try new things otherwise it's just something you're doing because that's the way you were raised and that's what your parents told you as opposed to really owning it for yourself and so so we have learned that you have to have the brains very loose and and let them go out and do what they want to do and control the environment at home but be you know very kind of nonplused if they go and make a choice that you wouldn't make or whatever and just be curious about it and allow them the space to do that and you know you hope they come back and you know do it the way you taught them to um and sometimes they do and sometimes they don't and again every one of them is different in our case but as they get to a certain point and especially you know when they're with peers and friends and they're in social situations those things they have to learn for themselves and you have to allow them to I think it's so interesting so you have to let go a little bit oh let go and let God yeah I tell myself that is like a mantra you know and and and I I I remind myself of like my mom let me leave home she emancipated me and I was leing in Japan at 14 and there was no cell phones like I call you know can you imagine doing that for one of your children right now no and actually you know what it's so funny because I was having a conversation with my son about that he um he was complaining you know I have chores in my house you know kids have to do their chores so set the table wash the dishes you know now I make a point you know I cook at you know they come from school I'm cooking you know they so one has to set the table whoever sets the table the other has to wash the dishes and there is like you have to clean your room you have to do the basic stuff you know my daughter is doing amazingly she loves it and she's like really good and very proud of herself mom look how good I cleaned the dishes like she's really good and she's washing herself she's not putting it in the machine she wants to learn how to really wash it and and and do it right and she's very focused on it my son is like always like why do I have to do this you know so actually we had like a breakthrough this Christmas this this whole holiday season because I said he says to me I'm going to leave home when I'm 18 mom and I don't know if I'm going to go to college you didn't go to college you didn't go to school I'm going to just leave home when I'm 18 and I'm going to do this and I'm going to do that I'm like okay that's great so you're going to leave in your own apartment and who's going to cook for you and who's going to wash your dishes and who's going to clean your clothes who's going to do that and he's like for a second he's like because you're not going to have a chef and like a you know like and he was thinking for a second and I say well this is why when mommy tells you to do those things at home you know is because I want to give you more tools for your tool boox because when you learn how to do those things and they become second nature to you then you don't even have to think about it you become empowered to do it for yourself you don't depend on anybody and that's nothing it's amazing to be able to do that I said you know what made me feel so like strong and capable when I left my home because my mom taught me how to do those things so when I left home and I was leaving by myself at 14 years old I was first at 13 at 14 I moved to Japan but because I was leaving in the mod's apartment I was the only person there who knew how to clean cook iron do absolutely everything in the house because my mom taught me and it was easy for me I didn't think it was a struggle I was happy to do it and I was happy to to do it for the other girls that didn't know how to do it but if you're going to be planning on leaving on your own at 18 who do you think is going to do all those things for you so all I'm telling you is like take advantage that mommy's here for you right now and I'm able to teach you all those things and you can do it at your time I'm not telling you like at this time you have to wash the dishes so let me just help you I'm going to create a list for you and you just have to do them and you can decide if you want to wash clothes once or twice a week you can decide if you want to wash the dishes right after dinner or before you go to bed whatever you want but if you learn how to do those things you're going to see how empowered you're going to feel and the more tools we can put like the more things like the simple things like that that you can learn and that you can equip your tool box to do you're just going to be just that much like capable and and and there's nothing more fulfilling than feeling like you're able to do stuff that you're capable and then he looked at me and he's like okay mom so when we get back home you give me that list and I'm going to do it I'm like I wow I was going to say like he actually he actually receiv that I I think I have a breakthrough I think I got a breakthrough with the hormones are raging like whatever mom you know storming off like you can get you can get that reaction too that was good good job don't you think that was a good thing but but I used but you see it was a moment that I used what he said because when he thought to himself that's true how am I going to do all that stuff I said you don't want to live in like a you know a messy stinky place that is not clean like you know you want to like have you know so you need to know how to do this stuff and I think all I I see like all the things that happen in life like that like different tools we acquire you know even the job that I you know my job like all the tools that I've acquired in this job all the things that I've learned to do um that I don't know when I'm going to use I use them for my job but maybe I'm going to they going to be useful like in 20 years from my life sure but you came from very different circumstances it's the it's the Peril of success right like you and and the kid's dad like worked very hard to achieve all of these things in life and now they're reared in you know like an insane degree of privilege and it becomes more difficult to instill that kind of work ethic into somebody who you know grows up that way I think you're correct I think it becomes a lot more difficult but I think goes back to the discipline and it goes back to priorities and I think it for me it becomes about what kind of you know I I feel like I'm their Guardian because we don't possess our children right I mean we just come here they come through us but they're as much as our teachers as we are they're teachers and we're constantly learning and teaching you know in every relationship in our life and and I feel that we get this moment in time which is very short in a way that we get to influence our children because then they go I mean look at my parents they had 14 years to influence me then I was out in the world and I never went back and I keep remembering like what are all the things that if they wouldn't have taught me those things where would I be today and I'm so grateful for them for for those lessons and I feel like yes I grew up in very different circumstances than my kids and it is a bit more challenging to have them you know make their bed and wash the dishes and clean their you know when I have a person that can do it too but I make a point of me doing it so then they learn that oh Mommy's doing the dinner Mommy is making the breakfast mommy is so they're like weel you have to model and I feel like it's a different kind of modeling is it is the type of modeling that I prefer it's it's the type of modeling that I find to be the important type of modeling because that's the you know I mean what's Mo the most important thing you're going to do in your life I feel like raising children is is by far the most challenging thing I've ever done and the most uh fulfilling at the same time and you know but I feel that if if I if I don't do that if I don't equip my children to be good capable assets you know for themselves in their lives if they're not going to be then I fail I I feel yeah you haven't done your job then I haven't done my job I mean I feel that's my job I mean that's a job I do to kind of make a living so I can like you know put foot on the table and have but my real job as as I think as a as a mom and I chose to be a mom so I have to show up for my kids and I feel like this things that my you know I think is really what shaped me and what made me who I am today was definitely the upbringing that I had and and what my parents how they guided me and I feel like that's really important so I make that a priority in my life to make sure that my kids are going to have even though they don't have those same needs you know to do those things because my mom didn't have a a person she could pay to come clean the house we had to you clean the bathroom you clean the you know it was like a list all of us have to share between us who's going to do what and we grew up that way and it was kind of fun because you know I was always I always love the cleaning part you know I love organizing and cleaning I feel like a clean house is a clean mind is like a what's out is in you know if like if everything is organized outside I can think um and I tell my kids that and I feel that um if I can really get them to do those simple things in life you know and and learn those things and teach them how to be self-sufficient and capable human beings I feel like I've done my job and then I can rest and then whatever else they do the choices they make if they choose to eat the food that I fed them when they were little if now they want to go eat you know whatever or I mean it's going to be what they're going to do you know they're going to choose their friends hopefully they they choose wisely because in the end of the day they're going to be the one dealing with the consequences of their actions and I always tell them like listen you know you're going to go out there and you're going to make the Cho whatever choice you make there are going to be consequences you're dealing with those consequences me this is your life and sometimes they need to they need to make those mistakes and face those consequences like we had I mean how many mistakes that I mean I have and those those experiences are formative like I'm sure if you look in the rear view mirror and think about the panic attacks that you were having on airplanes and your inability to get into an elevator and you know this desire to jump off your balcony on some level you wouldn't wish that experience on anybody but you probably wouldn't wna change your experience either because it's set in motion this whole sensibility and way of being that you now have and I think with kids they regardless of whether they hear you in the moment or whether they go out into the world and make a bunch of mistakes like they come back yeah and whatever you taught them it's in there and at some point when they're ready or whatever like they return to it and you know and and I think to to trust that it's very important and I also feel like because if you try to overly control it you're going to drive them away absolutely and and you know I think for me I keep going back to me as a kid and the trust my parents had in me to let me go and I wouldn't be who I am today if it wasn't for them trusting in me and for all the mistakes that I've made and then had to come the other side and figure out for myself so I think it's important to give our children the Dignity of Their Own process you know because we had a dignity you know we have to go through our own process to become who we are and I think as long as they know that we are there and what what is our values you know is like those things that are important what is what is that we stand for what's important for us you know as as as as a as a value as a core value as as as a being a good human being and a good person and if you thought that your children and and they and they got it in the end of the day they're going to go out there in the world and they're going to have to make their mistakes and I I think the best thing you can do for them it's is just be there for them whenever they they come back and if they want your help you know and I think it's it's hard because you want to protect them like you can put Bobble wrap on them so like nothing will touch them and they will be safe but in the end of the day that's unrealistic and it's like it doesn't work anyway you know what I like this idea you know there's a metaphor of the butterfly imagine the caterpillar as she's transforming into becoming the butterfly she's you know eating eating all the you know until she finally starts spinning into a cocoon and and then she has to like go through that whole stous process if you ever seen like you know they turn into GP yeah but they're like but it's exactly it's just and it's really kind of like hard to like when they're coming out it's like really awkward and it looks like they're very strenuous and very difficult so if you go in there and you try to help them come out you're going to them you're going to the butterfly and she won't be able to have the strength she needs struggle is the struggle is what crucial to the the growth and you have to give them the Dignity of their own process you have to be and I and I keep reminding myself I cannot take away that opportunity for them because my parents gave me the opportunity for me to go through my own challenges and I grew and and I want my kids to have that same opportunity because whoever they're going to become is going to be based on what their choice is and hopefully I gave them enough good examples and and and good um values where they would make the choices that is right for them you know what is it that you want people to understand or take away from the new book and and how you are modeling this lifestyle um whether it's dietary changes Lifestyle Changes uh movement practices how can somebody who is interested in kind of leveling up across the board begin the process of of making those changes in their life you know it's funny you know because when I decided to do a cookbook I'm the farthest thing there is from a chef let me tell you something I I am not a chef let me just like let's be honest you've got a private Chef in home that person is taking care of everything not anymore I used to you don't anymore no I don't I don't it's no the last two years I don't you're cooking your own meals yes I'm cooking my own meals yeah I I grew up there way and I want like I told you like my priority is showing my kids what I believe it's important for them and and and I can't I can't say oh this is important and then I have and I'm not doing it you know what I mean so it has to be cohesive right and and I think that for me um really being like living what I believe is very important and I was showing my kids that this is important to me like the only way I'm going to show them that is by doing that so yes I had chefs and this is how I learn how to cook a lot of the things a lot of the recipes in the book are like inspired by the things that I created with the chefs that I throughout the years I had the opportunity to you know to really work with Incredible people incredible Chef people that love food as much as I do because I love food um but was really an idea for me to look I can say go and meditate go and exercise you know I believe meditation I believe rest I believe um exercise I believe nutrition all of those things are extremely important for you to be able to take kind of ownership of your health and really take care of yourself and have and work on just having a more clear mind and just feeling more connected to yourself I think all of those things are different aspects of it but the reason about the cookbook is quite frankly I was seeing kids were coming to our house and in play dates and and moms will come and be like how did you get my kid to eat broccoli or roasted vegetables or and it was like so simple and I was like oh maybe we can share how to make some simple recipes that are super easy you can make it like in 10 minutes and you know moms some you know you just sometimes feel overwhelmed and I know because life is busy there's so so much going on so I was like how can I help in this way and also I feel like food is a perfect time for you to practice being present and mindful because you can eat like on a rush and not being present and the food have a one effect in your body or you can do something which is what I talk about in the book is like every time I look at my food not only the act of preparing your food there so much loves and you're touching the food and you're connecting with your food that's one thing but even if you're not the one cooking your food just to take a moment to bless your food to acknowledge that that is something that is alive that you're taking it and you're that's also your source of life you know so it's kind of like connecting to the food in that way I think it it does something because everything is energy so you're having a transfer of energy with something and with the intention that you're eating it has a different I I feel huge you know when I start doing that does make a difference how he has a different just being present and being connected to what you're doing having gratitude for that moment and you get to do that three times a day you know I mean now I have a juice once a day but I still blast my juice but it's just kind of like it's just this book what I would like to to to for people to take is like it can be really simple it doesn't have to be complicated to to eat healthy and really like if you have plans you know my mom taught me you know since I was a kid like no food waste so how can we organize our meals so can there's a big thing about like reducing waste yeah there for me that's huge and also like me planning like if you're going to buy because or you know food sourcing that's huge it's not about having something with a lot of condiments and a lot of stuff it's just like keep it simple but buying really great quality products like if you can do that and then instead of like because a lot of people are like oh and then you buy organic and then you throw it out because it's like you know it spoils much faster and I'm like yeah but if you have a meal planning and I and I teach that I kind of give some suggestions in the book like my mom did that I grew up like that because she didn't have time you know she was working all the time so she had like in the fridge like what we going to have for the whole week so she would go to the groceries and she would buy and then the things were allowed to the next day so you would always know what we were eating and things that wouldn't be eaten could be easily transferred for the next day and be made into the next organiz so that nothing spoils and you're so nothing spoils and you never had food waste because you're always taking it from one day to the next so is never wasting you always	this over and over again the planet regenerates itself so quickly you know because it's it's just a very intelligent we need to learn from nature instead of like trying to control nature we need to just like take a humble pill and and learn from the Big Mama we've moved so far away from that and we do live in this dualistic mindset where we think there's you know our environments and then there's nature or there's us and that's outside um but really understanding that you're never out of nature as you as you said um I think it's the first point of trying to really deepen your relationship with the world in which you live we all live and share and I think when it comes to the Amazon like we all hear about deforestation and all the you know clearing that's going on for cattle grazing and the strip mining and all the stuff that you mentioned but it's an abstraction especially for you know people in North America like we know what's going on we know it's bad but I've never visited there like I've never seen it myself and you being Brazilian gives you kind of a deeper appreciation and understanding of the extent of it you know I think it's how people tell the story because I think it's a lot deeper than you know I think people like depending on the industry that wants to benefit from something that tell the story	6	4	2	this over and over again the planet regenerates itself so quickly you know because it's it's just a very intelligent we need to learn from nature instead of like trying to control nature we need to just like take a humble pill and and learn from the Big Mama we've moved so far away from that and we do live in this dualistic mindset where we think there's you know our environments and then there's nature or there's us and that's outside um but really understanding that you're never out of nature as you as you said um I think it's the first point of trying to really deepen your relationship with the world in which you live we all live and share	I think when it comes to the Amazon like we all hear about deforestation and all the you know clearing that's going on for cattle grazing and the strip mining and all the stuff that you mentioned but it's an abstraction especially for you know people in North America like we know what's going on we know it's bad but I've never visited there like I've never seen it myself and you being Brazilian gives you kind of a deeper appreciation and understanding of the extent of it you know I think it's how people tell the story because I think it's a lot deeper than you know I think people like depending on the industry that wants to benefit from something tell the story	8,5,6	3,-1,4	8	5	6	3	-1	4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjK5ahIgsHA	4,193	rjK5ahIgsHA	2024-03-25 00:00:00	the choices that you're making are really either supporting you or not straight from the pages of Victoria Secret please welcome jaelle bunin gazelle bunin gazelle has walked in nearly 500 fashion shows and great the covers of more than 1,200 different magazines on paper like you're perhaps highly unrelatable you know what it is it's a character that's the job I do to kind of make a living so I can like you know put foot on the table raising children is is by far the most challenging thing I've ever done it's a different kind of modeling is the type of modeling that I prefer food is a perfect time for you to practice being present and mindful because it can be really simple it doesn't have to be complicated to eat healthy nature is just like it's me instead of like trying to control nature we need to just like take a humble pill and and learn from the Big Mama [Music] today's episode is brought to you by the awesome organizations that make this show [Music] possible so nice to meet you nice to meet you too so excited to have you here today yes when this opportunity presented itself I was like of course I want to talk to Jazelle and then I had my own like sort of mini panic attack we're going to get into panic attacks I'm like what could I possibly talk to this person about the alltime great super model of all time everybody knows this on paper like you're perhaps highly unrelatable but then the more you dig into your story and the more I kind of learned about your Arc and your past and what brought you to this place there's so much that's deeply relatable and your kind of transformation story is remarkably similar to mine although you did yours at like 23 I was 40 um but there's so much in there so I thought it would be cool to kind of um talk a little bit about what it was like what happened and how you made these changes in your life because I think you're in this interesting new season right now where despite the fact that you've been this Wellness Advocate and wellness Warrior for a long time my sense is that there's a there's a more full Embrace of of that now with kind of how you see yourself and what's important to you a well thank you for the introduction you know the funny thing is I you know people's you know what I did for a living is something that kind of just happened to me at 14 years old you know it was it was like hey do you want to be a model and I thought oh I can help my family you know I can do make a living and and help you know I have five sisters and and all that so modeling to me is something that is um an opportunity that came along like I think in life you have these opportunities that either you take that train and then see where it goes you know and I never even believed that this was going to take me and I was going to be doing this for almost 30 years you know it's it's one of those things that I was like oh I'll start doing this job and you know send money home and help my sisters go through school and do all that and um and maybe in five years you know I'll get a house because I didn't even go to school you know I I I was emancipated at 14 yeah you were in Tokyo at 14 I was living in Japan without speaking English and J or Japanese and that's when I when I start learning the language of of of energy you know what I mean because you don't have to understand the language you just have to feel you know something there's a lot more that has been said without words you know sure so I start learning about that um but I think that I went through this journey of modeling which was something I thought was going to last five years and I was just going to help my family out for a little bit and it just kept going you know it just kept happening you know I I didn't even think you can have longevity in this career because it's not what I what I saw really around me happening um but you know I kept it kept working out so I kept doing it and it was kind of a Mindless thing you know when you got in the hamster wheel and I think we do that sometimes in life and you're so young you don't know and you Liv the fast life and all of that so in my early 20s I um developed you know anxiety and panic attacks and all that because you know when you drink a bottle of wine and that because you like I used to be a smoker so I smoke I can't even imagine I used to smoke it feels like a whole different life you know but um it was the late 90s and there was a lot of um drugs and fashion and all that so I thought I was saying just because I was like having some wine and smoking cigarettes everybody was doing way worse things than yeah I'm sure you've seen a lot I've seen a lot yeah that's a whole other show about that that's a whole other story but yeah so um you know so that was the beginning for me to start reconnecting with myself because I think when I was 14 and I got that train my only focus was like how can I be the best that I can do on this and and and that was my focus and and I didn't meure any sacrifice he was like if I had to work 360 days a year and I felt like I couldn't say no because people were giving me a chance and then I was like in this really overdrive uh and burn down my adrenals I found out later when I found this amazing natural Doctor Who told me like listen you don't have any more adrenal they're shut down because you burn them basically I'm like but I'm only 22 you know so um basically I had to change the habits that I you know smoking a pack of cigarettes drinking alcohol every day to myself down coffee all day to keep myself up and also going from you know one time zone to the next I was three days in Paris two days in London one day in New York going back to you know my life was in a living in a suitcase and of course your nervous system is going to freak out you know and the way I was eating it was very you know anything that was in front of me I was just like not mindful about anything you know I was just kind of um like a Workhorse and when that happen to me is when I you know I come from a family that is very my my grandmother had a tea for everything so we never had we were not the kind of you know you get sick let me see this herbal remedy that we you know so yeah you grew up in kind of a small village right in Brazil your grandmother was cultivating herbs and she was the person that everyone would go to for their remedy so you have this sort of background and connection you know with the Earth exactly that you know is kind of lingering in the back of your mind when you're just you know hammering nails and and you know drinking wine and living that life but you're young it's like that's kind of what your 20s are for kind of and you're you're on this like Jet Plane I mean figuratively and literally like your career's taking off on top of that a people pleasing tendency where you feel like you have to say yes to everything and you're just go go go go go yeah and and I think but that was a big wakeup call for me because I think sometimes you know you have to reach rock bottom and when I had that those anxiety and they start becoming like almost CRI because I couldn't get on planes he was just you know I was going to all these doctors and they were like you have to take this stuff and I was just afraid of taking anything because I've never taken anything you know I was a there was a t for for this there you know my grandmother wasn't there so finally you know I wasn't going to take any medication because just the idea of taking something I was like I was normal before how can I go back being what I was you know like I I I didn't have these issues so what's happening long story short I found this doctor I had to replace my habits it was that simple I had to replace these habits that had created the reality I was living at that moment which was you know um really killing me in in so many ways you know killing my spirit killing my and and I replace it with good habits so now instead of smoking cigarettes and having a mocha frappuccino in the morning I'll would go out and do breath work and go out for a run and you know I replace in one day I gave up everything because he he looked at me he said jelle he called me Adrenalina he says do you want to live and I said I do he's like so we going to CH change my diet and that's for the first time in my life that I realized that I I was really like the one who got myself there and I was the only person who could get myself out by the choices that I was making so I had to take full responsibility for what I had created but it was in my power only in my power to change that there were no doctors nobody who was going to save me I had to change um you know the choices I was making and I and I did that and it was incredible because after over a year and a half like really struggling with anxiety and panic attacks and all that within 3 months I was like I never had another incident and it was you know and and once you start meditating I mean at that point this was 20 years ago right it wasn't like people were talking about meditation and yoga any other that um it was just um you know when you sit in silence and you and you reflect which is what we don't really give ourselves time to do because the world is so fastpaced and everything is catching your attention is trying to throw you off your Center you know everything is so busy it's like an overload of information to have that space to go inside and reflect and look and really take a step back I think that was the biggest blessing of my life so really I think what could have killed me is what gave me a whole new life and it was amazing because since then like everything changed like I realized that food is my medicine I realized that I am the director of my own movie that I'm creating my reality based on the choices that I'm making but what I'm choosing to not the people I'm choosing to have around in my life but what type of energy what kind of thoughts I allow to what am I feeding you know what kind of thoughts am I so all of that so that became like a big um changing of seasons for me in my early 20s what were those first couple weeks like if you went completely cold turkey on all of these bad habits I think it was like a drug addict I never was a I guess I was a drug etic only legal drugs because I guess alcohol is a drug and so is cigarettes nicotine and all that and caffeine and all that but they're like socially accepted but I tell you that I had the worst migraine I mean I felt like the I mean maybe that's what a person who's going like you have gone to to rehab right so I'm I don't know what you felt I would love to hear but I for me it was like right I mean I don't know about that sub it's the only way I know how to do it though I don't understand how people kind of phase out of stuff like you have to for me you have to draw the line and step over it and it's going to suck and you're going to be uncomfortable for a while while um but you know that on the other side of that lies all of this opportunity and possibility um but uh and that's what happened to me I think there was that because what I knew I knew that what I was and what if you do what you've always done you're going to get what you've always gotten is that simple and what I realized at that moment that what I what I created for myself was not what I wanted I needed to a drastic change and then he was like draw the line stopped everything in one day and the migraines and all of that like the consequences of what I had done I had to deal with them you know it took me like two weeks I think I was like having the worst migraines just because I didn't know if it was the nicotine the caffeine the alcohol I don't know what it was but it was all of it together and um but then it was amazing because from that experience I I became so much stronger and I and there are lots of different things that happen in my life after that I feel like every time we get tested it's like the Super Mario you know like the little video game when you go to do the big boss like you go through all the phases and you go to level one the big boss is like one it's okay to defeat that one but then the second one is like a tough for big boss and then the third one is you know it's like it's life I feel like that's what life is you get like the new tools so you get equipped and then you go to the next challenge that is a bigger one and then is a bigger one I feel like that's why we're here you know to keep seeing how we can expand how much more we can to grow to evolve to expand to see how strong and how creative and how you know how can how much we can experience of all this wonder how did you how did you plug that into the fast-paced life of of your modeling career because it's one thing if you're living a more kind of grounded atome lifestyle where you can control your food and your environment a little bit better but when you're flying all over the world and you're on these sets and there's craft service and it's junk food like you have to be way ahead of the curve to prepare everything to have everything kind of organized for yourself because how do you you if you're in just hotels all over the place and you arrive at midnight like how are you getting your you know like how did so how did you manage all of that you have to be very discipline I think you know when I I did this book called lessons and um and it was like everything starts to discipline that was like my first chapter and that's what I believe you have to decide you have and then you have to have the discipline to follow through so once you realize that these choices that you are making are having a positive impact in your life you want to continue doing them you know what I mean you don't want to fall back and just something that it didn't feel good that's your past like you don't want to go back there again so you're going to stick to the plan like this is what's working and this is what made me feel good again so I'm going to stick to this and of course it's not 100% you have to be compassionate with yourself too and say you I'll be like you know life is hard as it is you need to bit yourself in the head sometimes if you go and you oh you know I had like um I was exhausted I had like a banana bread or something or I had you know but I think you realize that the choices that you're making are are really either supporting you or not you know supporting you living the life that making you feel good and living the life that you want and is taking to the direction where you want to go or not and then it's just kind of an easier choice to make right and then I feel like when I go to the jobs you know I got to the point in my life where people know how I eat and you know I can tell people like listen this is what I want I want you got extensive riter yeah I kind of you know because I was already working for so long so I I have you know I got to the I guess really the privilege to be able to to kind of say like this is the kind of things that I would like to eat so please at the job you know if you're working 10 12 hours in a studio can we have these things available you know what I mean so then it was easier to keep the food healthy you know um because I think that's so important and then just to say I feel like and then saying no to those things you know like coffee or alcohol or things that I was just so used to because I was still in that same environment the environment hadn't changed I had changed but all of that was around me still but then it was just a choice of saying you know I feel great and I haven't drank alcohol in over two years now too this is something you know I even when I went back drinking after it was very moderate you know I was still like like I would drink socially sometimes you know peer pressure sometimes like oh come on have a drink you know and then you like feel like especially in my world I mean everyone pretty much is like socially having a drink so I would be like okay I'll have a drink but then he got to a point that I was like and that was like 20 years later because it just happened over two years ago I was like I don't want to drink like I don't care what anyone thinks and I don't care if they have Fe peer pressure I'm going to have my Min tea my cam tea and if they want to drink I'm not making anyone feel bad about drinking they can do whatever they want this is their Temple you know this is my temple I get to choose and they shouldn't make me feel bad that I don't want to you know so um then I kind of stood up for myself I think that happens after your 40s like you care less about what other people think and um wait till you're 50 oh my God I can't wait for that I'm gonna like he's he's gonna be amazing but I think the thing you mentioned you mentioned like being directed and and and being kind of dedicated to your path and and and I feel like that's the underappreciated aspect of of understanding you and your career a lot of people arrive in New York City every single day with a similar dream or ambition that you had when you were a young person and you arrived there and a lot of those people are very beautiful you're beautiful but that doesn't tell the story of how you translated like an opportunity into the career that you had and I think between the lines there is an intense work ethic and a very intentional approach to what you were doing like how did you apply those skills like what is the differentiator between you and the career that you've enjoyed versus you know the other beautiful people who aren't enjoying the same kind of career you can't and you're not allowed to say luck or you're you know no I don't believe I don't believe in luck I don't believe in luck I believe in hard work and but I believe in um I mean I think discipline but I also believe that I always treated everyone the way I like to be treated and I've always was appreciative I have this immense sense of gratitude for just being there so even though you know people were like oh you know you you know when I was 19 I was like I want the model of you know the model of the year and everybody's like how does it feel to be it didn't really it doesn't matter to me because quite frankly I never saw myself as a motel it's just not something I didn't drink the Kool-Aid I didn't believe because I was a model or because I I became successful in this job like I was better than anybody I just and I didn't believe that I believe that I just got to learn that craft really well and I understood what the job entail and like I learned how to do the job really well but by no means is what defined me it's just something I did it's not it's not who I am I don't know if you know it's like I go there I had this opportunity at you know 13 14 years old when I finally left home and and and and St pursued this career that really I thought it was just really I did it for the money I did it because I was like what else am I going to do at 14 years old that I can help my family you know I don't have any other jobs that are offering me an opportunity so I'll take this one so for me it was really like a job so I never like it didn't kind of Define me I kind of did it my way like I never became like you know it was like oh it needs to be glamorous I was never glamorous I'm a jeans and t-shirt type of girl like I if I needed to go to parties or hang out with this type of people I never did any of that like I went there I did my job I did the best that I could I never was late in my life for my jobs like never showed up like late I was there before everyone I was there 100% you know I I I just wanted to make sure that if people were booking me and they they were trusting in me that I was going to show up and deliver you know and I think that's kind of what it was I did it my way you know and it didn't broke me kind of Cu I saw you know people in this business you know you can lose yourself because if you drink the Kool-Aid if you start thinking you know like you lose yourself in it I never lost myself it was just a job and it's still just a job I can't even believe I'm still doing it sometimes I go in and I do it you it's not it's not what I do full- time anymore but it's just one of those things that you know I got to do this I got to make a career out of it and got to make a great living and help my family and I I have wonderful you know I got to travel the world and learn different languages and and and all of that and that's how I see it I don't see it as a you know I don't see myself you're not defined by it you're not you're not caught up in in the kind of dark underbelly of that very strange world this whole world is like almost like a parallel reality for me you know what I mean if something is like a switch on button I go there I do my job I take my picture I turn it off I go home and I have the same friends I have my my family I'm very close with my family but I think you're very good at seeing opportunities when they arise and you tell a little story in in in the new book about being 14 and on route to Tokyo and your parents gave you your dad gave you a little bit of money that was intended for getting a cab from that's the first day arve in s Paulo and instead of using that money oh it was you were super young right so you had a little bit of money to take a tab and you had the presence of mind to say this money would be better spent buying some clothes so I can do better in my auditions or whatnot um which isn't like that's not normal like that's somebody who's thinking ahead who's planning long term who's understanding that they have an opportunity in front of them and trying to figure out how to make the most out of it with limited resources and I think that speaks to or says a lot about your sensibility or your perspective as a business person yeah I mean it's so interesting to see it that way I mean I for me at that moment in time you know I I I just felt like I did something else than that you know that was one of the things and now that you're saying that I actually did that throughout because I bought my first apartment when I was 19 years old and when everybody was buying you know designer bags all the models and you know like remember I didn't know I was going to last in this business I thought like I didn't go to school I didn't go to high school I didn't you know I I left I I went to work and whenever I go I go back I thought I was going to be a farmer or something because I just always love the land and but I I didn't think like you know like where am I going to go from here so I have to make sure that I have at least a place to live I'm a cancer so I want to have like a stable home and when I was 19 you know people start flying me first class because I was like the model of the year right saw all the clients now are paying me first class I was exchanging those tickets for Coach classes because I was every two three days in a different country and instead of paying um my you know a rent in an apartment I pay I put down a down payment for an apartment and then I was paying my mortgage instead of paying rent and you're 19 and I was 19 so I I own my first apartment as 19 years old it was like a in in New York City it was like facing a wall of another building mind you he was like a very apartment you know that does require some maturity and some long-term thinking well well because I just thought to myself like you know I don't know how long I'm going to stay here you know I i' I at least I have to have a place to live if I like I'm not going to live empty-handed you know what I mean like what do I care about a bag or like what is that going to give me it's not going to be a roof over my head I need to make sure that I have that I can spend in the right places but I think that sense came from my mother because we grew up you know my mother was a cashier in the bank my father had like lots of different jobs like he had a real estate job but he was you know my mom they literally we we were like really simple people and grew up in two bedrooms with six girls and and and money was all always tight so I learned how to is the same thing in the book is like how do you prepare how do you not waste food I mean everything is like I think in my life I was kind of like raised that way you know what I mean kind of plan ahead like for tomorrow so you make sure that you have like food for everyone like like we're going to reuse the meat we cook on the barbecue and we're going to put it in the rice we're going to have carera so we're going to have an abundant meal because we have the rest of the you know what I mean it's kind of like that it's like you put money in the bank so when you retire you have something to to live off when you can no longer work the same thing I feel about food like you eat the right food so when you're older you you're able to have the energy and your body is functioning because you made the right choices so for me it's the same thing you know it's kind of making like just being kind of what is necessary here like do I really need this what do I need more do I need a roof over my head or do I need this this bags and this stuff do I need to take a taxi when I arrive to the model apartment when I'm 14 even though I never been to the city or can I take the subway and save the money so I can get the clothes for the casting and maybe I can get a job it's like it's kind of thinking like with the resources that I have right now what is the smartest how is the smartest way to use them I guess if you're like me never without a water bottle let's get it right people allow me to rock your world with my new favorite toy that's actually not a toy at all it's a non-negotiable essential camel backs Podium steel 100% % leak proof water bottle emphasis on leak proof for all 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it's you know what it is it's a character I always call call it her because I think being a MTO what I understood as being a motto is to play a character in a silent movie you know you get to experience all these different charact all these different aspects of of of being a woman let's say because one designer wants you to be more androgynous you know one designer was you know I remember diding a Balin Saga campaign I was like they made me a boy I was like literally like a week I was like a man a boy and in one I was like the sexy Versace campaign like you know like with big hair and like you know pushup bra you know so it was kind of like I got to play from the the androgynous girl to the very sexy to the tomb boy like I got to you know I mean you should see I don't know if you ever saw my book the other one that was like the 20 years I did a 20 well I watched the video that you did where you kind of went through it and you were talking about what was going on with you with each of those photographs yeah so it's it's it's it's really about kind of playing these different roles but it's just instead of you talking like you would be in a movie you're just you got to make the image that picture that one capture image to to it's a performance art it's a performance art but it's such a weird world I know that like Alexander McQueen he was like he was really the Catalyst right he was the guy who gave me the chance you know he gave me the the chance but when you watch his shows or some of these other shows like the designs are are stunning and gorgeous but they're also totally inaccessible it's like who wears this does anybody is there anybody in the world that even wear I mean if you're Lady Gaga I guess or somebody like that but like yeah it's a fantasy and so it's curious like how does that translate into I guess it's just how you feel and how you think about a particular designer or a brand and not so much about directly selling those designs to the person who's going to the department store or the boutique right yeah they're not thinking I don't even understand the business model of the whole thing yeah I me neither to be honest with you but I think it's a really I mean I think it has changed a lot uh since I started like I see a big shift because I think before there was a lot more creativity there was allowed a lot more creativity I think you know McQueen or JN galano you know the shows and stuff like you were like in a world like sure and the photographers being rock stars themselves oh yeah and and it was a I think it was a moment in time where there was so much less about selling but it was much more about the the inspiration and the aspir aspiring you know the aspiration of creating like a fantasy and like a and it was a lot of fun then I have to say at that time because I would have been dead I wouldn't have survived it I would have gone all in I would have been at every after hours party it would have been a disaster you see I was in bed like studying my astrology books like by 10 you know that was me I was like by 10 I was like oh no I have to go I was like I have to start early so I can go to bed early so for me it was a a different thing but um you know but I guess for me I also fell very responsible because I didn't want to one of the The Guiding lights for me I really believe was my parents because I saw how hard they work and I didn't want to disappoint them so I think part of like me being so stay on the line was like I'm not disappointing my parents I don't care if they're not here they are going to know what I'm doing like I remember part of the reason why I got so freaked out about the McQueen show and they sent me out like without a top because I couldn't speak English and they didn't even do a feeding anyway so then I was I was like oh my God if my parents see this they're GNA make me go back home and then I you know what is it like when you go internet but there was no internet in 1997 19 it wasn't so thank God because they didn't even saw that otherwi they would have been like what what are you doing I be like I don't know and you have five siblings right I have five sisters I'm a middle child I have two older sisters and two younger sisters and I'm a twin MH in the middle so we like the the sandwich like the cheese in the sandwich being Brazilian uh you're connected to the Amazon and to climate change issues and you've done a lot in terms of your environmental advocacy and clean water initiatives talk a little bit about how that began and and what that looked like now you know I um I've always been a big um basically like a child of nature I always tell my children when they ask you know what's your religion they say Mom we don't go to church I say you know what you're in church every day I say I say what do I say when people ask what my what my religion is I say love is your religion and nature is your church that's your Cathedral that's the big church that's our Temple you know so you honor your temple you love your temple you CU that's the only reason why we are all alive because this whole ecosystem is making it possible you know to grow our food to give us to provide us with all the things we need to survive so U and that's how I grew up I felt that way and especially having a grandmother that everything was from the earth you know she grew everything she ate and and uh you know the Earth was giving us the herbs that we needed to like when we fell ill and and I grew up in that way so when you grew up in that way and you grew up running around bare feet you know I come from a small village and anytime you want to eat something you grab there was like a tangerine tree or like a orange tree or is a plum tree and you just go and pick up the fruit from the tree we never bought fruits from the supermarket you know you go either you had it in your backyard or your neighbor had it or the other neighbor you know somebody had the fruit he wanted to eat you just go grab it so I think when you leave with that connection to Nature you have a different appreciation it's like so I feel like nature is just like it's it's it's me like I think we are n you know we are that and I think this connection from nature for me is not something it's just something I've always known you know is how I grew up and so for me um taking care of which I love which is nature is natural um so the but the first time I realized there was really problems happening is when I went to actually spend some time uh with the indigenous people in shingu area of the Amazon in the 2004 and that's when the first time I realized you know pesticide what's what pesticides were doing where mining was doing how they were contaminating the rivers and basically all the indigenous tribes they were living and depending on the that water they were getting sick and even though they were living very wholesomely you know with nature and you know by the impact that the big farms and different Mining and all that stuff was having um was really um having a really terrible impact in their in their their livelihoods and and that's when the first time I was like I need to do something about it and that's when I started like I had a flipflop line at the time in Brazil and we gave a percentage you know to that's actually a funny story the the the indigenous people and I was like I wonder what they would do with this with this funds but it was like a group that helped indigenous in Brazil and the funny enough when I did when I turned 40 this was in 2004 so I was like 24 cut to when I'm 40 2020 I was 40 um I wanted to do something for my 40th birthday and I was like oh I want to plant some trees in the in in the Amazon and how we going to do it so we looked around for who can help us do that and we contacted the the people that are working with the indigenous people that we knew in in Brazil and they're like we have the largest seed bank in the Amazon and we started with the money with the whole program that you gave in 2004 that money that was for the sale of the flipflops now years later they had the largest seed bank of you know the indigenous they they they collected the larger seed bank and this is how with that whole group of people we basically planted over 300,000 trees in that area of the Amazon so that was like years later so that's just how funny how life goes but for me because I was so connected to nature and I always wanted to help and my dad always said you know water is the most important thing and of course I saw that with the indigenous people because that's how they were all getting sick because all the the you know residue of Mining and and and pesticides were going into their water in my little village we were having a lot of problems with agriculture as well where there was a lot of runoffs from Roundup and all the stuff that they use in agriculture all the pesticides and stuff and it was getting a lot of people sick so we actually did the AGA limpa program in 200 I think it was 20 the N or I don't remember when we started but it was like a long time ago and I funded it and my dad who's also a sociologist worked with the university and we and we basically regenerated the whole area of the river that was kind of you know getting the water to the city and we were able to clean it it took us like a few years to do it you know it was pretty simple because all we had to do I mean it was not simple my dad is the one who did the work it was simpler for me I just kind of funded it but he was there every day he had to work with I don't know how many farmers you had to take their pie of land and kind of grow the native species Forest you know the native Forest back so then the there's a buffer there was a buffer and then the root systems could could filtrate it before all that stuff would go into the river and then that was the agal limpa project and that was one of the projects we did to clean the water and anyway so there's lots of different things but in overall thing my my thing is you know we got to take care of Mother Earth she takes care of us you know when people say to me oh we're going to save the planet I say you're that's such an ego thing you know as humans we think we're going to save anything the planets is in her own process of evolution this is a you know it's I mean dinosaurs were here before us and you know lur I mean so many different civilizations the planet will be fine that's what I always say I say please don't fool yourself I think we really saving ourselves we need to yeah I say there's no Sav we need re ourselves back yeah this is really about us protecting the resources and and taking care of what we really need for our survival because once we are gone the planet is going to regenerate I mean I've seen this over and over again the planet regenerates itself so quickly you know because it's it's just a very intelligent we need to learn from nature instead of like trying to control nature we need to just like take a humble pill and and learn from the Big Mama we've moved so far away from that and we do live in this dualistic mindset where we think there's you know our environments and then there's nature or there's us and that's outside um but really understanding that you're never out of nature as you as you said um I think it's the first point of trying to really deepen your relationship with the world in which you live we all live and share and I think when it comes to the Amazon like we all hear about deforestation and all the you know clearing that's going on for cattle grazing and the strip mining and all the stuff that you mentioned but it's an abstraction especially for you know people in North America like we know what's going on we know it's bad but I've never visited there like I've never seen it myself and you being Brazilian gives you kind of a deeper appreciation and understanding of the extent of it you know I think it's how people tell the story because I think it's a lot deeper than you know I think people like depending on the industry that wants to benefit from something that tell the story and they say okay this is what we're going to do is about the cing oh yeah it's so crazy a lot of NOS go in there and they say we're going to have an NGO because we're going to like protect Amazon but they're meantime they're the owners of the bigger paper company that comes from the Amazon they are just not you know what I mean so there it's not not all is as it seems no it's it's a very it's a wild wild west there and one of the biggest you know I've been there a few times and also done a lot of um just kind of like talking to people and understanding what happens there and a lot of the you know there's ancient Woods there and a lot of that goes to Europe so like what a lot of the the cattle for example is what they use to kind of occupy the land but what they're really after which is really valuable there is like gold and Min m you know the the rare medals the rare medals yeah the rare medals and the gold and all that stuff that's in there that's what interest this like you know the different um countries let's say they are not brail when they and because it's so corrupt unfortunately you know Brazil is very corrupt the politicians are very corrupt what happens is they sell those rights to those countries and then we have what we have and then the cattle like in the end they just kind of put them there because they have to occupy the land after they REM because they have to enter if you go there after they removed everything because they have to remove the value the value then they then they put all the cows there that's what they do so they remove the ancient wood they they remove the precious metals and and but they have to get there because if you fly over it it mean you're flying for hours over just a Green carpet so for you to have access to that you have to you can't just like clear cut because it grows so what they do to keep the the the forest from growing they just throw because it's very fertile the soil as soon as you cut because imagine that soil is been there like receiving all those back healthy bacteria from the leaves falling super fertile So within like three days you can Grass Grows Right and then in order for the trees not to keep growing because if you just leave abandon that's what's going to happen the birds are going to carry the seeds they're going to drop the seeds they're going to things are going to start growing again and then they won't have access you know so they kind of it's just like a cycle like but what is really after what they're really after it is the big stuff is the is the and and it's not unfortunately you know it's h it's so sad you know is greed mhm in the end of the day is greed and is greed by people that you know they don't have those natural resources where they are and and they understand the situation in Brazil and how corrupt the this the the 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their best interest from a wellness perspective I think the number one thing I feel is like monkey see monkey does right I think you have to be the example you have to leave it um cuz I think whatever you say is one thing and whatever you do you they need to kind they need to whatever you say whatever you do they have to be the same thing right sympatico yeah they have to be sympatico and um and that's what it is and and I think for the kids for my kids were were a lot easier because I was home a lot with them so I was you know taking them to school every day making their breakfast you know just having my Gardens at home growing the food so when the kids would come for play dates at the house you know my kids were grabbing like everything raw cucumbers carrots like green beans they were just grabbing it from the garden and like collecting things and putting in the basket it was like a game for them and it was like oh friends are coming over why are we going to grab for the for to Door picnic outside and then so they grew up in that way you know they they uh so it was easier for me to feed them healthier food and and and and explain to them you know we always compost it we had bees at our house um so you know they they were learning about you know when The Beekeeper would come and they explain you know how much be how much honey can you take and how much money how much honey do you leave for the bees and how does a the how does a queen bee work and all the so they were they're emotionally connected they were emotionally connected they were part of that like I was as a kid so um so for them is really natural and they were also homeschooled for the last three years um during the you know the whole pandemic thing I and we moved from Boston to Tampa so um it was a whole new world for them so I I homeschooled them and now they just went back to school but I have to tell you I see a huge difference especially because my son is 14 now so he wants to kind of push back this is what I'm getting at oh yeah well how old kid well they range from 28 to 16 and each one of there's four and each of them is different um but it's a delicate dance because you know we raised our kids similarly um but they reach a certain age and part of individuation and maturing is taking ownership for your own choices and understanding what you stand for and what you don't and in order to really Define that and hone that you have to go out and kind of push the envelope and try new things otherwise it's just something you're doing because that's the way you were raised and that's what your parents told you as opposed to really owning it for yourself and so so we have learned that you have to have the brains very loose and and let them go out and do what they want to do and control the environment at home but be you know very kind of nonplused if they go and make a choice that you wouldn't make or whatever and just be curious about it and allow them the space to do that and you know you hope they come back and you know do it the way you taught them to um and sometimes they do and sometimes they don't and again every one of them is different in our case but as they get to a certain point and especially you know when they're with peers and friends and they're in social situations those things they have to learn for themselves and you have to allow them to I think it's so interesting so you have to let go a little bit oh let go and let God yeah I tell myself that is like a mantra you know and and and I I I remind myself of like my mom let me leave home she emancipated me and I was leing in Japan at 14 and there was no cell phones like I call you know can you imagine doing that for one of your children right now no and actually you know what it's so funny because I was having a conversation with my son about that he um he was complaining you know I have chores in my house you know kids have to do their chores so set the table wash the dishes you know now I make a point you know I cook at you know they come from school I'm cooking you know they so one has to set the table whoever sets the table the other has to wash the dishes and there is like you have to clean your room you have to do the basic stuff you know my daughter is doing amazingly she loves it and she's like really good and very proud of herself mom look how good I cleaned the dishes like she's really good and she's washing herself she's not putting it in the machine she wants to learn how to really wash it and and and do it right and she's very focused on it my son is like always like why do I have to do this you know so actually we had like a breakthrough this Christmas this this whole holiday season because I said he says to me I'm going to leave home when I'm 18 mom and I don't know if I'm going to go to college you didn't go to college you didn't go to school I'm going to just leave home when I'm 18 and I'm going to do this and I'm going to do that I'm like okay that's great so you're going to leave in your own apartment and who's going to cook for you and who's going to wash your dishes and who's going to clean your clothes who's going to do that and he's like for a second he's like because you're not going to have a chef and like a you know like and he was thinking for a second and I say well this is why when mommy tells you to do those things at home you know is because I want to give you more tools for your tool boox because when you learn how to do those things and they become second nature to you then you don't even have to think about it you become empowered to do it for yourself you don't depend on anybody and that's nothing it's amazing to be able to do that I said you know what made me feel so like strong and capable when I left my home because my mom taught me how to do those things so when I left home and I was leaving by myself at 14 years old I was first at 13 at 14 I moved to Japan but because I was leaving in the mod's apartment I was the only person there who knew how to clean cook iron do absolutely everything in the house because my mom taught me and it was easy for me I didn't think it was a struggle I was happy to do it and I was happy to to do it for the other girls that didn't know how to do it but if you're going to be planning on leaving on your own at 18 who do you think is going to do all those things for you so all I'm telling you is like take advantage that mommy's here for you right now and I'm able to teach you all those things and you can do it at your time I'm not telling you like at this time you have to wash the dishes so let me just help you I'm going to create a list for you and you just have to do them and you can decide if you want to wash clothes once or twice a week you can decide if you want to wash the dishes right after dinner or before you go to bed whatever you want but if you learn how to do those things you're going to see how empowered you're going to feel and the more tools we can put like the more things like the simple things like that that you can learn and that you can equip your tool box to do you're just going to be just that much like capable and and and there's nothing more fulfilling than feeling like you're able to do stuff that you're capable and then he looked at me and he's like okay mom so when we get back home you give me that list and I'm going to do it I'm like I wow I was going to say like he actually he actually receiv that I I think I have a breakthrough I think I got a breakthrough with the hormones are raging like whatever mom you know storming off like you can get you can get that reaction too that was good good job don't you think that was a good thing but but I used but you see it was a moment that I used what he said because when he thought to himself that's true how am I going to do all that stuff I said you don't want to live in like a you know a messy stinky place that is not clean like you know you want to like have you know so you need to know how to do this stuff and I think all I I see like all the things that happen in life like that like different tools we acquire you know even the job that I you know my job like all the tools that I've acquired in this job all the things that I've learned to do um that I don't know when I'm going to use I use them for my job but maybe I'm going to they going to be useful like in 20 years from my life sure but you came from very different circumstances it's the it's the Peril of success right like you and and the kid's dad like worked very hard to achieve all of these things in life and now they're reared in you know like an insane degree of privilege and it becomes more difficult to instill that kind of work ethic into somebody who you know grows up that way I think you're correct I think it becomes a lot more difficult but I think goes back to the discipline and it goes back to priorities and I think it for me it becomes about what kind of you know I I feel like I'm their Guardian because we don't possess our children right I mean we just come here they come through us but they're as much as our teachers as we are they're teachers and we're constantly learning and teaching you know in every relationship in our life and and I feel that we get this moment in time which is very short in a way that we get to influence our children because then they go I mean look at my parents they had 14 years to influence me then I was out in the world and I never went back and I keep remembering like what are all the things that if they wouldn't have taught me those things where would I be today and I'm so grateful for them for for those lessons and I feel like yes I grew up in very different circumstances than my kids and it is a bit more challenging to have them you know make their bed and wash the dishes and clean their you know when I have a person that can do it too but I make a point of me doing it so then they learn that oh Mommy's doing the dinner Mommy is making the breakfast mommy is so they're like weel you have to model and I feel like it's a different kind of modeling is it is the type of modeling that I prefer it's it's the type of modeling that I find to be the important type of modeling because that's the you know I mean what's Mo the most important thing you're going to do in your life I feel like raising children is is by far the most challenging thing I've ever done and the most uh fulfilling at the same time and you know but I feel that if if I if I don't do that if I don't equip my children to be good capable assets you know for themselves in their lives if they're not going to be then I fail I I feel yeah you haven't done your job then I haven't done my job I mean I feel that's my job I mean that's a job I do to kind of make a living so I can like you know put foot on the table and have but my real job as as I think as a as a mom and I chose to be a mom so I have to show up for my kids and I feel like this things that my you know I think is really what shaped me and what made me who I am today was definitely the upbringing that I had and and what my parents how they guided me and I feel like that's really important so I make that a priority in my life to make sure that my kids are going to have even though they don't have those same needs you know to do those things because my mom didn't have a a person she could pay to come clean the house we had to you clean the bathroom you clean the you know it was like a list all of us have to share between us who's going to do what and we grew up that way and it was kind of fun because you know I was always I always love the cleaning part you know I love organizing and cleaning I feel like a clean house is a clean mind is like a what's out is in you know if like if everything is organized outside I can think um and I tell my kids that and I feel that um if I can really get them to do those simple things in life you know and and learn those things and teach them how to be self-sufficient and capable human beings I feel like I've done my job and then I can rest and then whatever else they do the choices they make if they choose to eat the food that I fed them when they were little if now they want to go eat you know whatever or I mean it's going to be what they're going to do you know they're going to choose their friends hopefully they they choose wisely because in the end of the day they're going to be the one dealing with the consequences of their actions and I always tell them like listen you know you're going to go out there and you're going to make the Cho whatever choice you make there are going to be consequences you're dealing with those consequences me this is your life and sometimes they need to they need to make those mistakes and face those consequences like we had I mean how many mistakes that I mean I have and those those experiences are formative like I'm sure if you look in the rear view mirror and think about the panic attacks that you were having on airplanes and your inability to get into an elevator and you know this desire to jump off your balcony on some level you wouldn't wish that experience on anybody but you probably wouldn't wna change your experience either because it's set in motion this whole sensibility and way of being that you now have and I think with kids they regardless of whether they hear you in the moment or whether they go out into the world and make a bunch of mistakes like they come back yeah and whatever you taught them it's in there and at some point when they're ready or whatever like they return to it and you know and and I think to to trust that it's very important and I also feel like because if you try to overly control it you're going to drive them away absolutely and and you know I think for me I keep going back to me as a kid and the trust my parents had in me to let me go and I wouldn't be who I am today if it wasn't for them trusting in me and for all the mistakes that I've made and then had to come the other side and figure out for myself so I think it's important to give our children the Dignity of Their Own process you know because we had a dignity you know we have to go through our own process to become who we are and I think as long as they know that we are there and what what is our values you know is like those things that are important what is what is that we stand for what's important for us you know as as as as a as a value as a core value as as as a being a good human being and a good person and if you thought that your children and and they and they got it in the end of the day they're going to go out there in the world and they're going to have to make their mistakes and I I think the best thing you can do for them it's is just be there for them whenever they they come back and if they want your help you know and I think it's it's hard because you want to protect them like you can put Bobble wrap on them so like nothing will touch them and they will be safe but in the end of the day that's unrealistic and it's like it doesn't work anyway you know what I like this idea you know there's a metaphor of the butterfly imagine the caterpillar as she's transforming into becoming the butterfly she's you know eating eating all the you know until she finally starts spinning into a cocoon and and then she has to like go through that whole stous process if you ever seen like you know they turn into GP yeah but they're like but it's exactly it's just and it's really kind of like hard to like when they're coming out it's like really awkward and it looks like they're very strenuous and very difficult so if you go in there and you try to help them come out you're going to them you're going to the butterfly and she won't be able to have the strength she needs struggle is the struggle is what crucial to the the growth and you have to give them the Dignity of their own process you have to be and I and I keep reminding myself I cannot take away that opportunity for them because my parents gave me the opportunity for me to go through my own challenges and I grew and and I want my kids to have that same opportunity because whoever they're going to become is going to be based on what their choice is and hopefully I gave them enough good examples and and and good um values where they would make the choices that is right for them you know what is it that you want people to understand or take away from the new book and and how you are modeling this lifestyle um whether it's dietary changes Lifestyle Changes uh movement practices how can somebody who is interested in kind of leveling up across the board begin the process of of making those changes in their life you know it's funny you know because when I decided to do a cookbook I'm the farthest thing there is from a chef let me tell you something I I am not a chef let me just like let's be honest you've got a private Chef in home that person is taking care of everything not anymore I used to you don't anymore no I don't I don't it's no the last two years I don't you're cooking your own meals yes I'm cooking my own meals yeah I I grew up there way and I want like I told you like my priority is showing my kids what I believe it's important for them and and and I can't I can't say oh this is important and then I have and I'm not doing it you know what I mean so it has to be cohesive right and and I think that for me um really being like living what I believe is very important and I was showing my kids that this is important to me like the only way I'm going to show them that is by doing that so yes I had chefs and this is how I learn how to cook a lot of the things a lot of the recipes in the book are like inspired by the things that I created with the chefs that I throughout the years I had the opportunity to you know to really work with Incredible people incredible Chef people that love food as much as I do because I love food um but was really an idea for me to look I can say go and meditate go and exercise you know I believe meditation I believe rest I believe um exercise I believe nutrition all of those things are extremely important for you to be able to take kind of ownership of your health and really take care of yourself and have and work on just having a more clear mind and just feeling more connected to yourself I think all of those things are different aspects of it but the reason about the cookbook is quite frankly I was seeing kids were coming to our house and in play dates and and moms will come and be like how did you get my kid to eat broccoli or roasted vegetables or and it was like so simple and I was like oh maybe we can share how to make some simple recipes that are super easy you can make it like in 10 minutes and you know moms some you know you just sometimes feel overwhelmed and I know because life is busy there's so so much going on so I was like how can I help in this way and also I feel like food is a perfect time for you to practice being present and mindful because you can eat like on a rush and not being present and the food have a one effect in your body or you can do something which is what I talk about in the book is like every time I look at my food not only the act of preparing your food there so much loves and you're touching the food and you're connecting with your food that's one thing but even if you're not the one cooking your food just to take a moment to bless your food to acknowledge that that is something that is alive that you're taking it and you're that's also your source of life you know so it's kind of like connecting to the food in that way I think it it does something because everything is energy so you're having a transfer of energy with something and with the intention that you're eating it has a different I I feel huge you know when I start doing that does make a difference how he has a different just being present and being connected to what you're doing having gratitude for that moment and you get to do that three times a day you know I mean now I have a juice once a day but I still blast my juice but it's just kind of like it's just this book what I would like to to to for people to take is like it can be really simple it doesn't have to be complicated to to eat healthy and really like if you have plans you know my mom taught me you know since I was a kid like no food waste so how can we organize our meals so can there's a big thing about like reducing waste yeah there for me that's huge and also like me planning like if you're going to buy because or you know food sourcing that's huge it's not about having something with a lot of condiments and a lot of stuff it's just like keep it simple but buying really great quality products like if you can do that and then instead of like because a lot of people are like oh and then you buy organic and then you throw it out because it's like you know it spoils much faster and I'm like yeah but if you have a meal planning and I and I teach that I kind of give some suggestions in the book like my mom did that I grew up like that because she didn't have time you know she was working all the time so she had like in the fridge like what we going to have for the whole week so she would go to the groceries and she would buy and then the things were allowed to the next day so you would always know what we were eating and things that wouldn't be eaten could be easily transferred for the next day and be made into the next organiz so that nothing spoils and you're so nothing spoils and you never had food waste because you're always taking it from one day to the next so is never wasting you always	is the big stuff is the is the and and it's not unfortunately you know it's h it's so sad you know is greed mhm in the end of the day is greed and is greed by people that you know they don't have those natural resources where they are and and they understand the situation in Brazil and how corrupt the this the the system is you know with the politicians and they come and they they just buy those right they exploited they exploited in in every way but and and in the end of the day it's um I think greed is the biggest dis disease of of our time you're not going to get an argument from me on that over the last decade of Hosting this podcast my mission has been to engage in what I consider to be critically important conversations about the things that matter most in life things like Health relationships growth purpose and service while I'm immensely grateful for the growth of this show I've also come to realize that my voice alone is not enough this mission is not and cannot be a solitary Endeavor so I wanted to find a way to help amplify other meaningful voices and the result is voicing change media this beautiful Consortium of thinkers of storytellers artists and Visionaries all committed to fostering meaningful exchanges intentionally curated for those committed to the path of 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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjK5ahIgsHA	4,193	rjK5ahIgsHA	2024-03-25 00:00:00	the choices that you're making are really either supporting you or not straight from the pages of Victoria Secret please welcome jaelle bunin gazelle bunin gazelle has walked in nearly 500 fashion shows and great the covers of more than 1,200 different magazines on paper like you're perhaps highly unrelatable you know what it is it's a character that's the job I do to kind of make a living so I can like you know put foot on the table raising children is is by far the most challenging thing I've ever done it's a different kind of modeling is the type of modeling that I prefer food is a perfect time for you to practice being present and mindful because it can be really simple it doesn't have to be complicated to eat healthy nature is just like it's me instead of like trying to control nature we need to just like take a humble pill and and learn from the Big Mama [Music] today's episode is brought to you by the awesome organizations that make this show [Music] possible so nice to meet you nice to meet you too so excited to have you here today yes when this opportunity presented itself I was like of course I want to talk to Jazelle and then I had my own like sort of mini panic attack we're going to get into panic attacks I'm like what could I possibly talk to this person about the alltime great super model of all time everybody knows this on paper like you're perhaps highly unrelatable but then the more you dig into your story and the more I kind of learned about your Arc and your past and what brought you to this place there's so much that's deeply relatable and your kind of transformation story is remarkably similar to mine although you did yours at like 23 I was 40 um but there's so much in there so I thought it would be cool to kind of um talk a little bit about what it was like what happened and how you made these changes in your life because I think you're in this interesting new season right now where despite the fact that you've been this Wellness Advocate and wellness Warrior for a long time my sense is that there's a there's a more full Embrace of of that now with kind of how you see yourself and what's important to you a well thank you for the introduction you know the funny thing is I you know people's you know what I did for a living is something that kind of just happened to me at 14 years old you know it was it was like hey do you want to be a model and I thought oh I can help my family you know I can do make a living and and help you know I have five sisters and and all that so modeling to me is something that is um an opportunity that came along like I think in life you have these opportunities that either you take that train and then see where it goes you know and I never even believed that this was going to take me and I was going to be doing this for almost 30 years you know it's it's one of those things that I was like oh I'll start doing this job and you know send money home and help my sisters go through school and do all that and um and maybe in five years you know I'll get a house because I didn't even go to school you know I I I was emancipated at 14 yeah you were in Tokyo at 14 I was living in Japan without speaking English and J or Japanese and that's when I when I start learning the language of of of energy you know what I mean because you don't have to understand the language you just have to feel you know something there's a lot more that has been said without words you know sure so I start learning about that um but I think that I went through this journey of modeling which was something I thought was going to last five years and I was just going to help my family out for a little bit and it just kept going you know it just kept happening you know I I didn't even think you can have longevity in this career because it's not what I what I saw really around me happening um but you know I kept it kept working out so I kept doing it and it was kind of a Mindless thing you know when you got in the hamster wheel and I think we do that sometimes in life and you're so young you don't know and you Liv the fast life and all of that so in my early 20s I um developed you know anxiety and panic attacks and all that because you know when you drink a bottle of wine and that because you like I used to be a smoker so I smoke I can't even imagine I used to smoke it feels like a whole different life you know but um it was the late 90s and there was a lot of um drugs and fashion and all that so I thought I was saying just because I was like having some wine and smoking cigarettes everybody was doing way worse things than yeah I'm sure you've seen a lot I've seen a lot yeah that's a whole other show about that that's a whole other story but yeah so um you know so that was the beginning for me to start reconnecting with myself because I think when I was 14 and I got that train my only focus was like how can I be the best that I can do on this and and and that was my focus and and I didn't meure any sacrifice he was like if I had to work 360 days a year and I felt like I couldn't say no because people were giving me a chance and then I was like in this really overdrive uh and burn down my adrenals I found out later when I found this amazing natural Doctor Who told me like listen you don't have any more adrenal they're shut down because you burn them basically I'm like but I'm only 22 you know so um basically I had to change the habits that I you know smoking a pack of cigarettes drinking alcohol every day to myself down coffee all day to keep myself up and also going from you know one time zone to the next I was three days in Paris two days in London one day in New York going back to you know my life was in a living in a suitcase and of course your nervous system is going to freak out you know and the way I was eating it was very you know anything that was in front of me I was just like not mindful about anything you know I was just kind of um like a Workhorse and when that happen to me is when I you know I come from a family that is very my my grandmother had a tea for everything so we never had we were not the kind of you know you get sick let me see this herbal remedy that we you know so yeah you grew up in kind of a small village right in Brazil your grandmother was cultivating herbs and she was the person that everyone would go to for their remedy so you have this sort of background and connection you know with the Earth exactly that you know is kind of lingering in the back of your mind when you're just you know hammering nails and and you know drinking wine and living that life but you're young it's like that's kind of what your 20s are for kind of and you're you're on this like Jet Plane I mean figuratively and literally like your career's taking off on top of that a people pleasing tendency where you feel like you have to say yes to everything and you're just go go go go go yeah and and I think but that was a big wakeup call for me because I think sometimes you know you have to reach rock bottom and when I had that those anxiety and they start becoming like almost CRI because I couldn't get on planes he was just you know I was going to all these doctors and they were like you have to take this stuff and I was just afraid of taking anything because I've never taken anything you know I was a there was a t for for this there you know my grandmother wasn't there so finally you know I wasn't going to take any medication because just the idea of taking something I was like I was normal before how can I go back being what I was you know like I I I didn't have these issues so what's happening long story short I found this doctor I had to replace my habits it was that simple I had to replace these habits that had created the reality I was living at that moment which was you know um really killing me in in so many ways you know killing my spirit killing my and and I replace it with good habits so now instead of smoking cigarettes and having a mocha frappuccino in the morning I'll would go out and do breath work and go out for a run and you know I replace in one day I gave up everything because he he looked at me he said jelle he called me Adrenalina he says do you want to live and I said I do he's like so we going to CH change my diet and that's for the first time in my life that I realized that I I was really like the one who got myself there and I was the only person who could get myself out by the choices that I was making so I had to take full responsibility for what I had created but it was in my power only in my power to change that there were no doctors nobody who was going to save me I had to change um you know the choices I was making and I and I did that and it was incredible because after over a year and a half like really struggling with anxiety and panic attacks and all that within 3 months I was like I never had another incident and it was you know and and once you start meditating I mean at that point this was 20 years ago right it wasn't like people were talking about meditation and yoga any other that um it was just um you know when you sit in silence and you and you reflect which is what we don't really give ourselves time to do because the world is so fastpaced and everything is catching your attention is trying to throw you off your Center you know everything is so busy it's like an overload of information to have that space to go inside and reflect and look and really take a step back I think that was the biggest blessing of my life so really I think what could have killed me is what gave me a whole new life and it was amazing because since then like everything changed like I realized that food is my medicine I realized that I am the director of my own movie that I'm creating my reality based on the choices that I'm making but what I'm choosing to not the people I'm choosing to have around in my life but what type of energy what kind of thoughts I allow to what am I feeding you know what kind of thoughts am I so all of that so that became like a big um changing of seasons for me in my early 20s what were those first couple weeks like if you went completely cold turkey on all of these bad habits I think it was like a drug addict I never was a I guess I was a drug etic only legal drugs because I guess alcohol is a drug and so is cigarettes nicotine and all that and caffeine and all that but they're like socially accepted but I tell you that I had the worst migraine I mean I felt like the I mean maybe that's what a person who's going like you have gone to to rehab right so I'm I don't know what you felt I would love to hear but I for me it was like right I mean I don't know about that sub it's the only way I know how to do it though I don't understand how people kind of phase out of stuff like you have to for me you have to draw the line and step over it and it's going to suck and you're going to be uncomfortable for a while while um but you know that on the other side of that lies all of this opportunity and possibility um but uh and that's what happened to me I think there was that because what I knew I knew that what I was and what if you do what you've always done you're going to get what you've always gotten is that simple and what I realized at that moment that what I what I created for myself was not what I wanted I needed to a drastic change and then he was like draw the line stopped everything in one day and the migraines and all of that like the consequences of what I had done I had to deal with them you know it took me like two weeks I think I was like having the worst migraines just because I didn't know if it was the nicotine the caffeine the alcohol I don't know what it was but it was all of it together and um but then it was amazing because from that experience I I became so much stronger and I and there are lots of different things that happen in my life after that I feel like every time we get tested it's like the Super Mario you know like the little video game when you go to do the big boss like you go through all the phases and you go to level one the big boss is like one it's okay to defeat that one but then the second one is like a tough for big boss and then the third one is you know it's like it's life I feel like that's what life is you get like the new tools so you get equipped and then you go to the next challenge that is a bigger one and then is a bigger one I feel like that's why we're here you know to keep seeing how we can expand how much more we can to grow to evolve to expand to see how strong and how creative and how you know how can how much we can experience of all this wonder how did you how did you plug that into the fast-paced life of of your modeling career because it's one thing if you're living a more kind of grounded atome lifestyle where you can control your food and your environment a little bit better but when you're flying all over the world and you're on these sets and there's craft service and it's junk food like you have to be way ahead of the curve to prepare everything to have everything kind of organized for yourself because how do you you if you're in just hotels all over the place and you arrive at midnight like how are you getting your you know like how did so how did you manage all of that you have to be very discipline I think you know when I I did this book called lessons and um and it was like everything starts to discipline that was like my first chapter and that's what I believe you have to decide you have and then you have to have the discipline to follow through so once you realize that these choices that you are making are having a positive impact in your life you want to continue doing them you know what I mean you don't want to fall back and just something that it didn't feel good that's your past like you don't want to go back there again so you're going to stick to the plan like this is what's working and this is what made me feel good again so I'm going to stick to this and of course it's not 100% you have to be compassionate with yourself too and say you I'll be like you know life is hard as it is you need to bit yourself in the head sometimes if you go and you oh you know I had like um I was exhausted I had like a banana bread or something or I had you know but I think you realize that the choices that you're making are are really either supporting you or not you know supporting you living the life that making you feel good and living the life that you want and is taking to the direction where you want to go or not and then it's just kind of an easier choice to make right and then I feel like when I go to the jobs you know I got to the point in my life where people know how I eat and you know I can tell people like listen this is what I want I want you got extensive riter yeah I kind of you know because I was already working for so long so I I have you know I got to the I guess really the privilege to be able to to kind of say like this is the kind of things that I would like to eat so please at the job you know if you're working 10 12 hours in a studio can we have these things available you know what I mean so then it was easier to keep the food healthy you know um because I think that's so important and then just to say I feel like and then saying no to those things you know like coffee or alcohol or things that I was just so used to because I was still in that same environment the environment hadn't changed I had changed but all of that was around me still but then it was just a choice of saying you know I feel great and I haven't drank alcohol in over two years now too this is something you know I even when I went back drinking after it was very moderate you know I was still like like I would drink socially sometimes you know peer pressure sometimes like oh come on have a drink you know and then you like feel like especially in my world I mean everyone pretty much is like socially having a drink so I would be like okay I'll have a drink but then he got to a point that I was like and that was like 20 years later because it just happened over two years ago I was like I don't want to drink like I don't care what anyone thinks and I don't care if they have Fe peer pressure I'm going to have my Min tea my cam tea and if they want to drink I'm not making anyone feel bad about drinking they can do whatever they want this is their Temple you know this is my temple I get to choose and they shouldn't make me feel bad that I don't want to you know so um then I kind of stood up for myself I think that happens after your 40s like you care less about what other people think and um wait till you're 50 oh my God I can't wait for that I'm gonna like he's he's gonna be amazing but I think the thing you mentioned you mentioned like being directed and and and being kind of dedicated to your path and and and I feel like that's the underappreciated aspect of of understanding you and your career a lot of people arrive in New York City every single day with a similar dream or ambition that you had when you were a young person and you arrived there and a lot of those people are very beautiful you're beautiful but that doesn't tell the story of how you translated like an opportunity into the career that you had and I think between the lines there is an intense work ethic and a very intentional approach to what you were doing like how did you apply those skills like what is the differentiator between you and the career that you've enjoyed versus you know the other beautiful people who aren't enjoying the same kind of career you can't and you're not allowed to say luck or you're you know no I don't believe I don't believe in luck I don't believe in luck I believe in hard work and but I believe in um I mean I think discipline but I also believe that I always treated everyone the way I like to be treated and I've always was appreciative I have this immense sense of gratitude for just being there so even though you know people were like oh you know you you know when I was 19 I was like I want the model of you know the model of the year and everybody's like how does it feel to be it didn't really it doesn't matter to me because quite frankly I never saw myself as a motel it's just not something I didn't drink the Kool-Aid I didn't believe because I was a model or because I I became successful in this job like I was better than anybody I just and I didn't believe that I believe that I just got to learn that craft really well and I understood what the job entail and like I learned how to do the job really well but by no means is what defined me it's just something I did it's not it's not who I am I don't know if you know it's like I go there I had this opportunity at you know 13 14 years old when I finally left home and and and and St pursued this career that really I thought it was just really I did it for the money I did it because I was like what else am I going to do at 14 years old that I can help my family you know I don't have any other jobs that are offering me an opportunity so I'll take this one so for me it was really like a job so I never like it didn't kind of Define me I kind of did it my way like I never became like you know it was like oh it needs to be glamorous I was never glamorous I'm a jeans and t-shirt type of girl like I if I needed to go to parties or hang out with this type of people I never did any of that like I went there I did my job I did the best that I could I never was late in my life for my jobs like never showed up like late I was there before everyone I was there 100% you know I I I just wanted to make sure that if people were booking me and they they were trusting in me that I was going to show up and deliver you know and I think that's kind of what it was I did it my way you know and it didn't broke me kind of Cu I saw you know people in this business you know you can lose yourself because if you drink the Kool-Aid if you start thinking you know like you lose yourself in it I never lost myself it was just a job and it's still just a job I can't even believe I'm still doing it sometimes I go in and I do it you it's not it's not what I do full- time anymore but it's just one of those things that you know I got to do this I got to make a career out of it and got to make a great living and help my family and I I have wonderful you know I got to travel the world and learn different languages and and and all of that and that's how I see it I don't see it as a you know I don't see myself you're not defined by it you're not you're not caught up in in the kind of dark underbelly of that very strange world this whole world is like almost like a parallel reality for me you know what I mean if something is like a switch on button I go there I do my job I take my picture I turn it off I go home and I have the same friends I have my my family I'm very close with my family but I think you're very good at seeing opportunities when they arise and you tell a little story in in in the new book about being 14 and on route to Tokyo and your parents gave you your dad gave you a little bit of money that was intended for getting a cab from that's the first day arve in s Paulo and instead of using that money oh it was you were super young right so you had a little bit of money to take a tab and you had the presence of mind to say this money would be better spent buying some clothes so I can do better in my auditions or whatnot um which isn't like that's not normal like that's somebody who's thinking ahead who's planning long term who's understanding that they have an opportunity in front of them and trying to figure out how to make the most out of it with limited resources and I think that speaks to or says a lot about your sensibility or your perspective as a business person yeah I mean it's so interesting to see it that way I mean I for me at that moment in time you know I I I just felt like I did something else than that you know that was one of the things and now that you're saying that I actually did that throughout because I bought my first apartment when I was 19 years old and when everybody was buying you know designer bags all the models and you know like remember I didn't know I was going to last in this business I thought like I didn't go to school I didn't go to high school I didn't you know I I left I I went to work and whenever I go I go back I thought I was going to be a farmer or something because I just always love the land and but I I didn't think like you know like where am I going to go from here so I have to make sure that I have at least a place to live I'm a cancer so I want to have like a stable home and when I was 19 you know people start flying me first class because I was like the model of the year right saw all the clients now are paying me first class I was exchanging those tickets for Coach classes because I was every two three days in a different country and instead of paying um my you know a rent in an apartment I pay I put down a down payment for an apartment and then I was paying my mortgage instead of paying rent and you're 19 and I was 19 so I I own my first apartment as 19 years old it was like a in in New York City it was like facing a wall of another building mind you he was like a very apartment you know that does require some maturity and some long-term thinking well well because I just thought to myself like you know I don't know how long I'm going to stay here you know I i' I at least I have to have a place to live if I like I'm not going to live empty-handed you know what I mean like what do I care about a bag or like what is that going to give me it's not going to be a roof over my head I need to make sure that I have that I can spend in the right places but I think that sense came from my mother because we grew up you know my mother was a cashier in the bank my father had like lots of different jobs like he had a real estate job but he was you know my mom they literally we we were like really simple people and grew up in two bedrooms with six girls and and and money was all always tight so I learned how to is the same thing in the book is like how do you prepare how do you not waste food I mean everything is like I think in my life I was kind of like raised that way you know what I mean kind of plan ahead like for tomorrow so you make sure that you have like food for everyone like like we're going to reuse the meat we cook on the barbecue and we're going to put it in the rice we're going to have carera so we're going to have an abundant meal because we have the rest of the you know what I mean it's kind of like that it's like you put money in the bank so when you retire you have something to to live off when you can no longer work the same thing I feel about food like you eat the right food so when you're older you you're able to have the energy and your body is functioning because you made the right choices so for me it's the same thing you know it's kind of making like just being kind of what is necessary here like do I really need this what do I need more do I need a roof over my head or do I need this this bags and this stuff do I need to take a taxi when I arrive to the model apartment when I'm 14 even though I never been to the city or can I take the subway and save the money so I can get the clothes for the casting and maybe I can get a job it's like it's kind of thinking like with the resources that I have right now what is the smartest how is the smartest way to use them I guess if you're like me never without a water bottle let's get it right people allow me to rock your world with my new favorite toy that's actually not a toy at all it's a non-negotiable essential camel backs Podium steel 100% % leak proof water bottle emphasis on leak proof for all 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it's you know what it is it's a character I always call call it her because I think being a MTO what I understood as being a motto is to play a character in a silent movie you know you get to experience all these different charact all these different aspects of of of being a woman let's say because one designer wants you to be more androgynous you know one designer was you know I remember diding a Balin Saga campaign I was like they made me a boy I was like literally like a week I was like a man a boy and in one I was like the sexy Versace campaign like you know like with big hair and like you know pushup bra you know so it was kind of like I got to play from the the androgynous girl to the very sexy to the tomb boy like I got to you know I mean you should see I don't know if you ever saw my book the other one that was like the 20 years I did a 20 well I watched the video that you did where you kind of went through it and you were talking about what was going on with you with each of those photographs yeah so it's it's it's it's really about kind of playing these different roles but it's just instead of you talking like you would be in a movie you're just you got to make the image that picture that one capture image to to it's a performance art it's a performance art but it's such a weird world I know that like Alexander McQueen he was like he was really the Catalyst right he was the guy who gave me the chance you know he gave me the the chance but when you watch his shows or some of these other shows like the designs are are stunning and gorgeous but they're also totally inaccessible it's like who wears this does anybody is there anybody in the world that even wear I mean if you're Lady Gaga I guess or somebody like that but like yeah it's a fantasy and so it's curious like how does that translate into I guess it's just how you feel and how you think about a particular designer or a brand and not so much about directly selling those designs to the person who's going to the department store or the boutique right yeah they're not thinking I don't even understand the business model of the whole thing yeah I me neither to be honest with you but I think it's a really I mean I think it has changed a lot uh since I started like I see a big shift because I think before there was a lot more creativity there was allowed a lot more creativity I think you know McQueen or JN galano you know the shows and stuff like you were like in a world like sure and the photographers being rock stars themselves oh yeah and and it was a I think it was a moment in time where there was so much less about selling but it was much more about the the inspiration and the aspir aspiring you know the aspiration of creating like a fantasy and like a and it was a lot of fun then I have to say at that time because I would have been dead I wouldn't have survived it I would have gone all in I would have been at every after hours party it would have been a disaster you see I was in bed like studying my astrology books like by 10 you know that was me I was like by 10 I was like oh no I have to go I was like I have to start early so I can go to bed early so for me it was a a different thing but um you know but I guess for me I also fell very responsible because I didn't want to one of the The Guiding lights for me I really believe was my parents because I saw how hard they work and I didn't want to disappoint them so I think part of like me being so stay on the line was like I'm not disappointing my parents I don't care if they're not here they are going to know what I'm doing like I remember part of the reason why I got so freaked out about the McQueen show and they sent me out like without a top because I couldn't speak English and they didn't even do a feeding anyway so then I was I was like oh my God if my parents see this they're GNA make me go back home and then I you know what is it like when you go internet but there was no internet in 1997 19 it wasn't so thank God because they didn't even saw that otherwi they would have been like what what are you doing I be like I don't know and you have five siblings right I have five sisters I'm a middle child I have two older sisters and two younger sisters and I'm a twin MH in the middle so we like the the sandwich like the cheese in the sandwich being Brazilian uh you're connected to the Amazon and to climate change issues and you've done a lot in terms of your environmental advocacy and clean water initiatives talk a little bit about how that began and and what that looked like now you know I um I've always been a big um basically like a child of nature I always tell my children when they ask you know what's your religion they say Mom we don't go to church I say you know what you're in church every day I say I say what do I say when people ask what my what my religion is I say love is your religion and nature is your church that's your Cathedral that's the big church that's our Temple you know so you honor your temple you love your temple you CU that's the only reason why we are all alive because this whole ecosystem is making it possible you know to grow our food to give us to provide us with all the things we need to survive so U and that's how I grew up I felt that way and especially having a grandmother that everything was from the earth you know she grew everything she ate and and uh you know the Earth was giving us the herbs that we needed to like when we fell ill and and I grew up in that way so when you grew up in that way and you grew up running around bare feet you know I come from a small village and anytime you want to eat something you grab there was like a tangerine tree or like a orange tree or is a plum tree and you just go and pick up the fruit from the tree we never bought fruits from the supermarket you know you go either you had it in your backyard or your neighbor had it or the other neighbor you know somebody had the fruit he wanted to eat you just go grab it so I think when you leave with that connection to Nature you have a different appreciation it's like so I feel like nature is just like it's it's it's me like I think we are n you know we are that and I think this connection from nature for me is not something it's just something I've always known you know is how I grew up and so for me um taking care of which I love which is nature is natural um so the but the first time I realized there was really problems happening is when I went to actually spend some time uh with the indigenous people in shingu area of the Amazon in the 2004 and that's when the first time I realized you know pesticide what's what pesticides were doing where mining was doing how they were contaminating the rivers and basically all the indigenous tribes they were living and depending on the that water they were getting sick and even though they were living very wholesomely you know with nature and you know by the impact that the big farms and different Mining and all that stuff was having um was really um having a really terrible impact in their in their their livelihoods and and that's when the first time I was like I need to do something about it and that's when I started like I had a flipflop line at the time in Brazil and we gave a percentage you know to that's actually a funny story the the the indigenous people and I was like I wonder what they would do with this with this funds but it was like a group that helped indigenous in Brazil and the funny enough when I did when I turned 40 this was in 2004 so I was like 24 cut to when I'm 40 2020 I was 40 um I wanted to do something for my 40th birthday and I was like oh I want to plant some trees in the in in the Amazon and how we going to do it so we looked around for who can help us do that and we contacted the the people that are working with the indigenous people that we knew in in Brazil and they're like we have the largest seed bank in the Amazon and we started with the money with the whole program that you gave in 2004 that money that was for the sale of the flipflops now years later they had the largest seed bank of you know the indigenous they they they collected the larger seed bank and this is how with that whole group of people we basically planted over 300,000 trees in that area of the Amazon so that was like years later so that's just how funny how life goes but for me because I was so connected to nature and I always wanted to help and my dad always said you know water is the most important thing and of course I saw that with the indigenous people because that's how they were all getting sick because all the the you know residue of Mining and and and pesticides were going into their water in my little village we were having a lot of problems with agriculture as well where there was a lot of runoffs from Roundup and all the stuff that they use in agriculture all the pesticides and stuff and it was getting a lot of people sick so we actually did the AGA limpa program in 200 I think it was 20 the N or I don't remember when we started but it was like a long time ago and I funded it and my dad who's also a sociologist worked with the university and we and we basically regenerated the whole area of the river that was kind of you know getting the water to the city and we were able to clean it it took us like a few years to do it you know it was pretty simple because all we had to do I mean it was not simple my dad is the one who did the work it was simpler for me I just kind of funded it but he was there every day he had to work with I don't know how many farmers you had to take their pie of land and kind of grow the native species Forest you know the native Forest back so then the there's a buffer there was a buffer and then the root systems could could filtrate it before all that stuff would go into the river and then that was the agal limpa project and that was one of the projects we did to clean the water and anyway so there's lots of different things but in overall thing my my thing is you know we got to take care of Mother Earth she takes care of us you know when people say to me oh we're going to save the planet I say you're that's such an ego thing you know as humans we think we're going to save anything the planets is in her own process of evolution this is a you know it's I mean dinosaurs were here before us and you know lur I mean so many different civilizations the planet will be fine that's what I always say I say please don't fool yourself I think we really saving ourselves we need to yeah I say there's no Sav we need re ourselves back yeah this is really about us protecting the resources and and taking care of what we really need for our survival because once we are gone the planet is going to regenerate I mean I've seen this over and over again the planet regenerates itself so quickly you know because it's it's just a very intelligent we need to learn from nature instead of like trying to control nature we need to just like take a humble pill and and learn from the Big Mama we've moved so far away from that and we do live in this dualistic mindset where we think there's you know our environments and then there's nature or there's us and that's outside um but really understanding that you're never out of nature as you as you said um I think it's the first point of trying to really deepen your relationship with the world in which you live we all live and share and I think when it comes to the Amazon like we all hear about deforestation and all the you know clearing that's going on for cattle grazing and the strip mining and all the stuff that you mentioned but it's an abstraction especially for you know people in North America like we know what's going on we know it's bad but I've never visited there like I've never seen it myself and you being Brazilian gives you kind of a deeper appreciation and understanding of the extent of it you know I think it's how people tell the story because I think it's a lot deeper than you know I think people like depending on the industry that wants to benefit from something that tell the story and they say okay this is what we're going to do is about the cing oh yeah it's so crazy a lot of NOS go in there and they say we're going to have an NGO because we're going to like protect Amazon but they're meantime they're the owners of the bigger paper company that comes from the Amazon they are just not you know what I mean so there it's not not all is as it seems no it's it's a very it's a wild wild west there and one of the biggest you know I've been there a few times and also done a lot of um just kind of like talking to people and understanding what happens there and a lot of the you know there's ancient Woods there and a lot of that goes to Europe so like what a lot of the the cattle for example is what they use to kind of occupy the land but what they're really after which is really valuable there is like gold and Min m you know the the rare medals the rare medals yeah the rare medals and the gold and all that stuff that's in there that's what interest this like you know the different um countries let's say they are not brail when they and because it's so corrupt unfortunately you know Brazil is very corrupt the politicians are very corrupt what happens is they sell those rights to those countries and then we have what we have and then the cattle like in the end they just kind of put them there because they have to occupy the land after they REM because they have to enter if you go there after they removed everything because they have to remove the value the value then they then they put all the cows there that's what they do so they remove the ancient wood they they remove the precious metals and and but they have to get there because if you fly over it it mean you're flying for hours over just a Green carpet so for you to have access to that you have to you can't just like clear cut because it grows so what they do to keep the the the forest from growing they just throw because it's very fertile the soil as soon as you cut because imagine that soil is been there like receiving all those back healthy bacteria from the leaves falling super fertile So within like three days you can Grass Grows Right and then in order for the trees not to keep growing because if you just leave abandon that's what's going to happen the birds are going to carry the seeds they're going to drop the seeds they're going to things are going to start growing again and then they won't have access you know so they kind of it's just like a cycle like but what is really after what they're really after it is the big stuff is the is the and and it's not unfortunately you know it's h it's so sad you know is greed mhm in the end of the day is greed and is greed by people that you know they don't have those natural resources where they are and and they understand the situation in Brazil and how corrupt the this the the 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their best interest from a wellness perspective I think the number one thing I feel is like monkey see monkey does right I think you have to be the example you have to leave it um cuz I think whatever you say is one thing and whatever you do you they need to kind they need to whatever you say whatever you do they have to be the same thing right sympatico yeah they have to be sympatico and um and that's what it is and and I think for the kids for my kids were were a lot easier because I was home a lot with them so I was you know taking them to school every day making their breakfast you know just having my Gardens at home growing the food so when the kids would come for play dates at the house you know my kids were grabbing like everything raw cucumbers carrots like green beans they were just grabbing it from the garden and like collecting things and putting in the basket it was like a game for them and it was like oh friends are coming over why are we going to grab for the for to Door picnic outside and then so they grew up in that way you know they they uh so it was easier for me to feed them healthier food and and and and explain to them you know we always compost it we had bees at our house um so you know they they were learning about you know when The Beekeeper would come and they explain you know how much be how much honey can you take and how much money how much honey do you leave for the bees and how does a the how does a queen bee work and all the so they were they're emotionally connected they were emotionally connected they were part of that like I was as a kid so um so for them is really natural and they were also homeschooled for the last three years um during the you know the whole pandemic thing I and we moved from Boston to Tampa so um it was a whole new world for them so I I homeschooled them and now they just went back to school but I have to tell you I see a huge difference especially because my son is 14 now so he wants to kind of push back this is what I'm getting at oh yeah well how old kid well they range from 28 to 16 and each one of there's four and each of them is different um but it's a delicate dance because you know we raised our kids similarly um but they reach a certain age and part of individuation and maturing is taking ownership for your own choices and understanding what you stand for and what you don't and in order to really Define that and hone that you have to go out and kind of push the envelope and try new things otherwise it's just something you're doing because that's the way you were raised and that's what your parents told you as opposed to really owning it for yourself and so so we have learned that you have to have the brains very loose and and let them go out and do what they want to do and control the environment at home but be you know very kind of nonplused if they go and make a choice that you wouldn't make or whatever and just be curious about it and allow them the space to do that and you know you hope they come back and you know do it the way you taught them to um and sometimes they do and sometimes they don't and again every one of them is different in our case but as they get to a certain point and especially you know when they're with peers and friends and they're in social situations those things they have to learn for themselves and you have to allow them to I think it's so interesting so you have to let go a little bit oh let go and let God yeah I tell myself that is like a mantra you know and and and I I I remind myself of like my mom let me leave home she emancipated me and I was leing in Japan at 14 and there was no cell phones like I call you know can you imagine doing that for one of your children right now no and actually you know what it's so funny because I was having a conversation with my son about that he um he was complaining you know I have chores in my house you know kids have to do their chores so set the table wash the dishes you know now I make a point you know I cook at you know they come from school I'm cooking you know they so one has to set the table whoever sets the table the other has to wash the dishes and there is like you have to clean your room you have to do the basic stuff you know my daughter is doing amazingly she loves it and she's like really good and very proud of herself mom look how good I cleaned the dishes like she's really good and she's washing herself she's not putting it in the machine she wants to learn how to really wash it and and and do it right and she's very focused on it my son is like always like why do I have to do this you know so actually we had like a breakthrough this Christmas this this whole holiday season because I said he says to me I'm going to leave home when I'm 18 mom and I don't know if I'm going to go to college you didn't go to college you didn't go to school I'm going to just leave home when I'm 18 and I'm going to do this and I'm going to do that I'm like okay that's great so you're going to leave in your own apartment and who's going to cook for you and who's going to wash your dishes and who's going to clean your clothes who's going to do that and he's like for a second he's like because you're not going to have a chef and like a you know like and he was thinking for a second and I say well this is why when mommy tells you to do those things at home you know is because I want to give you more tools for your tool boox because when you learn how to do those things and they become second nature to you then you don't even have to think about it you become empowered to do it for yourself you don't depend on anybody and that's nothing it's amazing to be able to do that I said you know what made me feel so like strong and capable when I left my home because my mom taught me how to do those things so when I left home and I was leaving by myself at 14 years old I was first at 13 at 14 I moved to Japan but because I was leaving in the mod's apartment I was the only person there who knew how to clean cook iron do absolutely everything in the house because my mom taught me and it was easy for me I didn't think it was a struggle I was happy to do it and I was happy to to do it for the other girls that didn't know how to do it but if you're going to be planning on leaving on your own at 18 who do you think is going to do all those things for you so all I'm telling you is like take advantage that mommy's here for you right now and I'm able to teach you all those things and you can do it at your time I'm not telling you like at this time you have to wash the dishes so let me just help you I'm going to create a list for you and you just have to do them and you can decide if you want to wash clothes once or twice a week you can decide if you want to wash the dishes right after dinner or before you go to bed whatever you want but if you learn how to do those things you're going to see how empowered you're going to feel and the more tools we can put like the more things like the simple things like that that you can learn and that you can equip your tool box to do you're just going to be just that much like capable and and and there's nothing more fulfilling than feeling like you're able to do stuff that you're capable and then he looked at me and he's like okay mom so when we get back home you give me that list and I'm going to do it I'm like I wow I was going to say like he actually he actually receiv that I I think I have a breakthrough I think I got a breakthrough with the hormones are raging like whatever mom you know storming off like you can get you can get that reaction too that was good good job don't you think that was a good thing but but I used but you see it was a moment that I used what he said because when he thought to himself that's true how am I going to do all that stuff I said you don't want to live in like a you know a messy stinky place that is not clean like you know you want to like have you know so you need to know how to do this stuff and I think all I I see like all the things that happen in life like that like different tools we acquire you know even the job that I you know my job like all the tools that I've acquired in this job all the things that I've learned to do um that I don't know when I'm going to use I use them for my job but maybe I'm going to they going to be useful like in 20 years from my life sure but you came from very different circumstances it's the it's the Peril of success right like you and and the kid's dad like worked very hard to achieve all of these things in life and now they're reared in you know like an insane degree of privilege and it becomes more difficult to instill that kind of work ethic into somebody who you know grows up that way I think you're correct I think it becomes a lot more difficult but I think goes back to the discipline and it goes back to priorities and I think it for me it becomes about what kind of you know I I feel like I'm their Guardian because we don't possess our children right I mean we just come here they come through us but they're as much as our teachers as we are they're teachers and we're constantly learning and teaching you know in every relationship in our life and and I feel that we get this moment in time which is very short in a way that we get to influence our children because then they go I mean look at my parents they had 14 years to influence me then I was out in the world and I never went back and I keep remembering like what are all the things that if they wouldn't have taught me those things where would I be today and I'm so grateful for them for for those lessons and I feel like yes I grew up in very different circumstances than my kids and it is a bit more challenging to have them you know make their bed and wash the dishes and clean their you know when I have a person that can do it too but I make a point of me doing it so then they learn that oh Mommy's doing the dinner Mommy is making the breakfast mommy is so they're like weel you have to model and I feel like it's a different kind of modeling is it is the type of modeling that I prefer it's it's the type of modeling that I find to be the important type of modeling because that's the you know I mean what's Mo the most important thing you're going to do in your life I feel like raising children is is by far the most challenging thing I've ever done and the most uh fulfilling at the same time and you know but I feel that if if I if I don't do that if I don't equip my children to be good capable assets you know for themselves in their lives if they're not going to be then I fail I I feel yeah you haven't done your job then I haven't done my job I mean I feel that's my job I mean that's a job I do to kind of make a living so I can like you know put foot on the table and have but my real job as as I think as a as a mom and I chose to be a mom so I have to show up for my kids and I feel like this things that my you know I think is really what shaped me and what made me who I am today was definitely the upbringing that I had and and what my parents how they guided me and I feel like that's really important so I make that a priority in my life to make sure that my kids are going to have even though they don't have those same needs you know to do those things because my mom didn't have a a person she could pay to come clean the house we had to you clean the bathroom you clean the you know it was like a list all of us have to share between us who's going to do what and we grew up that way and it was kind of fun because you know I was always I always love the cleaning part you know I love organizing and cleaning I feel like a clean house is a clean mind is like a what's out is in you know if like if everything is organized outside I can think um and I tell my kids that and I feel that um if I can really get them to do those simple things in life you know and and learn those things and teach them how to be self-sufficient and capable human beings I feel like I've done my job and then I can rest and then whatever else they do the choices they make if they choose to eat the food that I fed them when they were little if now they want to go eat you know whatever or I mean it's going to be what they're going to do you know they're going to choose their friends hopefully they they choose wisely because in the end of the day they're going to be the one dealing with the consequences of their actions and I always tell them like listen you know you're going to go out there and you're going to make the Cho whatever choice you make there are going to be consequences you're dealing with those consequences me this is your life and sometimes they need to they need to make those mistakes and face those consequences like we had I mean how many mistakes that I mean I have and those those experiences are formative like I'm sure if you look in the rear view mirror and think about the panic attacks that you were having on airplanes and your inability to get into an elevator and you know this desire to jump off your balcony on some level you wouldn't wish that experience on anybody but you probably wouldn't wna change your experience either because it's set in motion this whole sensibility and way of being that you now have and I think with kids they regardless of whether they hear you in the moment or whether they go out into the world and make a bunch of mistakes like they come back yeah and whatever you taught them it's in there and at some point when they're ready or whatever like they return to it and you know and and I think to to trust that it's very important and I also feel like because if you try to overly control it you're going to drive them away absolutely and and you know I think for me I keep going back to me as a kid and the trust my parents had in me to let me go and I wouldn't be who I am today if it wasn't for them trusting in me and for all the mistakes that I've made and then had to come the other side and figure out for myself so I think it's important to give our children the Dignity of Their Own process you know because we had a dignity you know we have to go through our own process to become who we are and I think as long as they know that we are there and what what is our values you know is like those things that are important what is what is that we stand for what's important for us you know as as as as a as a value as a core value as as as a being a good human being and a good person and if you thought that your children and and they and they got it in the end of the day they're going to go out there in the world and they're going to have to make their mistakes and I I think the best thing you can do for them it's is just be there for them whenever they they come back and if they want your help you know and I think it's it's hard because you want to protect them like you can put Bobble wrap on them so like nothing will touch them and they will be safe but in the end of the day that's unrealistic and it's like it doesn't work anyway you know what I like this idea you know there's a metaphor of the butterfly imagine the caterpillar as she's transforming into becoming the butterfly she's you know eating eating all the you know until she finally starts spinning into a cocoon and and then she has to like go through that whole stous process if you ever seen like you know they turn into GP yeah but they're like but it's exactly it's just and it's really kind of like hard to like when they're coming out it's like really awkward and it looks like they're very strenuous and very difficult so if you go in there and you try to help them come out you're going to them you're going to the butterfly and she won't be able to have the strength she needs struggle is the struggle is what crucial to the the growth and you have to give them the Dignity of their own process you have to be and I and I keep reminding myself I cannot take away that opportunity for them because my parents gave me the opportunity for me to go through my own challenges and I grew and and I want my kids to have that same opportunity because whoever they're going to become is going to be based on what their choice is and hopefully I gave them enough good examples and and and good um values where they would make the choices that is right for them you know what is it that you want people to understand or take away from the new book and and how you are modeling this lifestyle um whether it's dietary changes Lifestyle Changes uh movement practices how can somebody who is interested in kind of leveling up across the board begin the process of of making those changes in their life you know it's funny you know because when I decided to do a cookbook I'm the farthest thing there is from a chef let me tell you something I I am not a chef let me just like let's be honest you've got a private Chef in home that person is taking care of everything not anymore I used to you don't anymore no I don't I don't it's no the last two years I don't you're cooking your own meals yes I'm cooking my own meals yeah I I grew up there way and I want like I told you like my priority is showing my kids what I believe it's important for them and and and I can't I can't say oh this is important and then I have and I'm not doing it you know what I mean so it has to be cohesive right and and I think that for me um really being like living what I believe is very important and I was showing my kids that this is important to me like the only way I'm going to show them that is by doing that so yes I had chefs and this is how I learn how to cook a lot of the things a lot of the recipes in the book are like inspired by the things that I created with the chefs that I throughout the years I had the opportunity to you know to really work with Incredible people incredible Chef people that love food as much as I do because I love food um but was really an idea for me to look I can say go and meditate go and exercise you know I believe meditation I believe rest I believe um exercise I believe nutrition all of those things are extremely important for you to be able to take kind of ownership of your health and really take care of yourself and have and work on just having a more clear mind and just feeling more connected to yourself I think all of those things are different aspects of it but the reason about the cookbook is quite frankly I was seeing kids were coming to our house and in play dates and and moms will come and be like how did you get my kid to eat broccoli or roasted vegetables or and it was like so simple and I was like oh maybe we can share how to make some simple recipes that are super easy you can make it like in 10 minutes and you know moms some you know you just sometimes feel overwhelmed and I know because life is busy there's so so much going on so I was like how can I help in this way and also I feel like food is a perfect time for you to practice being present and mindful because you can eat like on a rush and not being present and the food have a one effect in your body or you can do something which is what I talk about in the book is like every time I look at my food not only the act of preparing your food there so much loves and you're touching the food and you're connecting with your food that's one thing but even if you're not the one cooking your food just to take a moment to bless your food to acknowledge that that is something that is alive that you're taking it and you're that's also your source of life you know so it's kind of like connecting to the food in that way I think it it does something because everything is energy so you're having a transfer of energy with something and with the intention that you're eating it has a different I I feel huge you know when I start doing that does make a difference how he has a different just being present and being connected to what you're doing having gratitude for that moment and you get to do that three times a day you know I mean now I have a juice once a day but I still blast my juice but it's just kind of like it's just this book what I would like to to to for people to take is like it can be really simple it doesn't have to be complicated to to eat healthy and really like if you have plans you know my mom taught me you know since I was a kid like no food waste so how can we organize our meals so can there's a big thing about like reducing waste yeah there for me that's huge and also like me planning like if you're going to buy because or you know food sourcing that's huge it's not about having something with a lot of condiments and a lot of stuff it's just like keep it simple but buying really great quality products like if you can do that and then instead of like because a lot of people are like oh and then you buy organic and then you throw it out because it's like you know it spoils much faster and I'm like yeah but if you have a meal planning and I and I teach that I kind of give some suggestions in the book like my mom did that I grew up like that because she didn't have time you know she was working all the time so she had like in the fridge like what we going to have for the whole week so she would go to the groceries and she would buy and then the things were allowed to the next day so you would always know what we were eating and things that wouldn't be eaten could be easily transferred for the next day and be made into the next organiz so that nothing spoils and you're so nothing spoils and you never had food waste because you're always taking it from one day to the next so is never wasting you always	educate that entertain and perhaps most importantly Empower you to live authentically and purposefully together we're creating a space of growth a space of understanding where every exchange has the potential to enrich our lives and catalyze profound personal and planetary change to explore all the shows in the network visit voicing change. media give us a follow on Instagram @ voicing change and again visit voicing change. media to learn more And subscribe back to the wellness stuff you're so intentional with food and lifestyle practices breath work like all of these kind of um protocols and the ways in which you live that you express and explain in this book um it's a lot and you have two kids they're how old are they now like 15 14 11 11 um and I have a bonus child that is like going to be 17 so oh okay how do you uh instill these choices in your parenting how do you get your kids excited about the things that are in their best interest from a wellness perspective I think the number one thing I feel is like monkey see monkey does right I think you have to be the example you have to leave it um cuz I think whatever you say is one thing and whatever you do you they need to kind they need to whatever you say whatever you do they have to be the same thing right sympatico yeah they have to 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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjK5ahIgsHA	4,193	rjK5ahIgsHA	2024-03-25 00:00:00	the choices that you're making are really either supporting you or not straight from the pages of Victoria Secret please welcome jaelle bunin gazelle bunin gazelle has walked in nearly 500 fashion shows and great the covers of more than 1,200 different magazines on paper like you're perhaps highly unrelatable you know what it is it's a character that's the job I do to kind of make a living so I can like you know put foot on the table raising children is is by far the most challenging thing I've ever done it's a different kind of modeling is the type of modeling that I prefer food is a perfect time for you to practice being present and mindful because it can be really simple it doesn't have to be complicated to eat healthy nature is just like it's me instead of like trying to control nature we need to just like take a humble pill and and learn from the Big Mama [Music] today's episode is brought to you by the awesome organizations that make this show [Music] possible so nice to meet you nice to meet you too so excited to have you here today yes when this opportunity presented itself I was like of course I want to talk to Jazelle and then I had my own like sort of mini panic attack we're going to get into panic attacks I'm like what could I possibly talk to this person about the alltime great super model of all time everybody knows this on paper like you're perhaps highly unrelatable but then the more you dig into your story and the more I kind of learned about your Arc and your past and what brought you to this place there's so much that's deeply relatable and your kind of transformation story is remarkably similar to mine although you did yours at like 23 I was 40 um but there's so much in there so I thought it would be cool to kind of um talk a little bit about what it was like what happened and how you made these changes in your life because I think you're in this interesting new season right now where despite the fact that you've been this Wellness Advocate and wellness Warrior for a long time my sense is that there's a there's a more full Embrace of of that now with kind of how you see yourself and what's important to you a well thank you for the introduction you know the funny thing is I you know people's you know what I did for a living is something that kind of just happened to me at 14 years old you know it was it was like hey do you want to be a model and I thought oh I can help my family you know I can do make a living and and help you know I have five sisters and and all that so modeling to me is something that is um an opportunity that came along like I think in life you have these opportunities that either you take that train and then see where it goes you know and I never even believed that this was going to take me and I was going to be doing this for almost 30 years you know it's it's one of those things that I was like oh I'll start doing this job and you know send money home and help my sisters go through school and do all that and um and maybe in five years you know I'll get a house because I didn't even go to school you know I I I was emancipated at 14 yeah you were in Tokyo at 14 I was living in Japan without speaking English and J or Japanese and that's when I when I start learning the language of of of energy you know what I mean because you don't have to understand the language you just have to feel you know something there's a lot more that has been said without words you know sure so I start learning about that um but I think that I went through this journey of modeling which was something I thought was going to last five years and I was just going to help my family out for a little bit and it just kept going you know it just kept happening you know I I didn't even think you can have longevity in this career because it's not what I what I saw really around me happening um but you know I kept it kept working out so I kept doing it and it was kind of a Mindless thing you know when you got in the hamster wheel and I think we do that sometimes in life and you're so young you don't know and you Liv the fast life and all of that so in my early 20s I um developed you know anxiety and panic attacks and all that because you know when you drink a bottle of wine and that because you like I used to be a smoker so I smoke I can't even imagine I used to smoke it feels like a whole different life you know but um it was the late 90s and there was a lot of um drugs and fashion and all that so I thought I was saying just because I was like having some wine and smoking cigarettes everybody was doing way worse things than yeah I'm sure you've seen a lot I've seen a lot yeah that's a whole other show about that that's a whole other story but yeah so um you know so that was the beginning for me to start reconnecting with myself because I think when I was 14 and I got that train my only focus was like how can I be the best that I can do on this and and and that was my focus and and I didn't meure any sacrifice he was like if I had to work 360 days a year and I felt like I couldn't say no because people were giving me a chance and then I was like in this really overdrive uh and burn down my adrenals I found out later when I found this amazing natural Doctor Who told me like listen you don't have any more adrenal they're shut down because you burn them basically I'm like but I'm only 22 you know so um basically I had to change the habits that I you know smoking a pack of cigarettes drinking alcohol every day to myself down coffee all day to keep myself up and also going from you know one time zone to the next I was three days in Paris two days in London one day in New York going back to you know my life was in a living in a suitcase and of course your nervous system is going to freak out you know and the way I was eating it was very you know anything that was in front of me I was just like not mindful about anything you know I was just kind of um like a Workhorse and when that happen to me is when I you know I come from a family that is very my my grandmother had a tea for everything so we never had we were not the kind of you know you get sick let me see this herbal remedy that we you know so yeah you grew up in kind of a small village right in Brazil your grandmother was cultivating herbs and she was the person that everyone would go to for their remedy so you have this sort of background and connection you know with the Earth exactly that you know is kind of lingering in the back of your mind when you're just you know hammering nails and and you know drinking wine and living that life but you're young it's like that's kind of what your 20s are for kind of and you're you're on this like Jet Plane I mean figuratively and literally like your career's taking off on top of that a people pleasing tendency where you feel like you have to say yes to everything and you're just go go go go go yeah and and I think but that was a big wakeup call for me because I think sometimes you know you have to reach rock bottom and when I had that those anxiety and they start becoming like almost CRI because I couldn't get on planes he was just you know I was going to all these doctors and they were like you have to take this stuff and I was just afraid of taking anything because I've never taken anything you know I was a there was a t for for this there you know my grandmother wasn't there so finally you know I wasn't going to take any medication because just the idea of taking something I was like I was normal before how can I go back being what I was you know like I I I didn't have these issues so what's happening long story short I found this doctor I had to replace my habits it was that simple I had to replace these habits that had created the reality I was living at that moment which was you know um really killing me in in so many ways you know killing my spirit killing my and and I replace it with good habits so now instead of smoking cigarettes and having a mocha frappuccino in the morning I'll would go out and do breath work and go out for a run and you know I replace in one day I gave up everything because he he looked at me he said jelle he called me Adrenalina he says do you want to live and I said I do he's like so we going to CH change my diet and that's for the first time in my life that I realized that I I was really like the one who got myself there and I was the only person who could get myself out by the choices that I was making so I had to take full responsibility for what I had created but it was in my power only in my power to change that there were no doctors nobody who was going to save me I had to change um you know the choices I was making and I and I did that and it was incredible because after over a year and a half like really struggling with anxiety and panic attacks and all that within 3 months I was like I never had another incident and it was you know and and once you start meditating I mean at that point this was 20 years ago right it wasn't like people were talking about meditation and yoga any other that um it was just um you know when you sit in silence and you and you reflect which is what we don't really give ourselves time to do because the world is so fastpaced and everything is catching your attention is trying to throw you off your Center you know everything is so busy it's like an overload of information to have that space to go inside and reflect and look and really take a step back I think that was the biggest blessing of my life so really I think what could have killed me is what gave me a whole new life and it was amazing because since then like everything changed like I realized that food is my medicine I realized that I am the director of my own movie that I'm creating my reality based on the choices that I'm making but what I'm choosing to not the people I'm choosing to have around in my life but what type of energy what kind of thoughts I allow to what am I feeding you know what kind of thoughts am I so all of that so that became like a big um changing of seasons for me in my early 20s what were those first couple weeks like if you went completely cold turkey on all of these bad habits I think it was like a drug addict I never was a I guess I was a drug etic only legal drugs because I guess alcohol is a drug and so is cigarettes nicotine and all that and caffeine and all that but they're like socially accepted but I tell you that I had the worst migraine I mean I felt like the I mean maybe that's what a person who's going like you have gone to to rehab right so I'm I don't know what you felt I would love to hear but I for me it was like right I mean I don't know about that sub it's the only way I know how to do it though I don't understand how people kind of phase out of stuff like you have to for me you have to draw the line and step over it and it's going to suck and you're going to be uncomfortable for a while while um but you know that on the other side of that lies all of this opportunity and possibility um but uh and that's what happened to me I think there was that because what I knew I knew that what I was and what if you do what you've always done you're going to get what you've always gotten is that simple and what I realized at that moment that what I what I created for myself was not what I wanted I needed to a drastic change and then he was like draw the line stopped everything in one day and the migraines and all of that like the consequences of what I had done I had to deal with them you know it took me like two weeks I think I was like having the worst migraines just because I didn't know if it was the nicotine the caffeine the alcohol I don't know what it was but it was all of it together and um but then it was amazing because from that experience I I became so much stronger and I and there are lots of different things that happen in my life after that I feel like every time we get tested it's like the Super Mario you know like the little video game when you go to do the big boss like you go through all the phases and you go to level one the big boss is like one it's okay to defeat that one but then the second one is like a tough for big boss and then the third one is you know it's like it's life I feel like that's what life is you get like the new tools so you get equipped and then you go to the next challenge that is a bigger one and then is a bigger one I feel like that's why we're here you know to keep seeing how we can expand how much more we can to grow to evolve to expand to see how strong and how creative and how you know how can how much we can experience of all this wonder how did you how did you plug that into the fast-paced life of of your modeling career because it's one thing if you're living a more kind of grounded atome lifestyle where you can control your food and your environment a little bit better but when you're flying all over the world and you're on these sets and there's craft service and it's junk food like you have to be way ahead of the curve to prepare everything to have everything kind of organized for yourself because how do you you if you're in just hotels all over the place and you arrive at midnight like how are you getting your you know like how did so how did you manage all of that you have to be very discipline I think you know when I I did this book called lessons and um and it was like everything starts to discipline that was like my first chapter and that's what I believe you have to decide you have and then you have to have the discipline to follow through so once you realize that these choices that you are making are having a positive impact in your life you want to continue doing them you know what I mean you don't want to fall back and just something that it didn't feel good that's your past like you don't want to go back there again so you're going to stick to the plan like this is what's working and this is what made me feel good again so I'm going to stick to this and of course it's not 100% you have to be compassionate with yourself too and say you I'll be like you know life is hard as it is you need to bit yourself in the head sometimes if you go and you oh you know I had like um I was exhausted I had like a banana bread or something or I had you know but I think you realize that the choices that you're making are are really either supporting you or not you know supporting you living the life that making you feel good and living the life that you want and is taking to the direction where you want to go or not and then it's just kind of an easier choice to make right and then I feel like when I go to the jobs you know I got to the point in my life where people know how I eat and you know I can tell people like listen this is what I want I want you got extensive riter yeah I kind of you know because I was already working for so long so I I have you know I got to the I guess really the privilege to be able to to kind of say like this is the kind of things that I would like to eat so please at the job you know if you're working 10 12 hours in a studio can we have these things available you know what I mean so then it was easier to keep the food healthy you know um because I think that's so important and then just to say I feel like and then saying no to those things you know like coffee or alcohol or things that I was just so used to because I was still in that same environment the environment hadn't changed I had changed but all of that was around me still but then it was just a choice of saying you know I feel great and I haven't drank alcohol in over two years now too this is something you know I even when I went back drinking after it was very moderate you know I was still like like I would drink socially sometimes you know peer pressure sometimes like oh come on have a drink you know and then you like feel like especially in my world I mean everyone pretty much is like socially having a drink so I would be like okay I'll have a drink but then he got to a point that I was like and that was like 20 years later because it just happened over two years ago I was like I don't want to drink like I don't care what anyone thinks and I don't care if they have Fe peer pressure I'm going to have my Min tea my cam tea and if they want to drink I'm not making anyone feel bad about drinking they can do whatever they want this is their Temple you know this is my temple I get to choose and they shouldn't make me feel bad that I don't want to you know so um then I kind of stood up for myself I think that happens after your 40s like you care less about what other people think and um wait till you're 50 oh my God I can't wait for that I'm gonna like he's he's gonna be amazing but I think the thing you mentioned you mentioned like being directed and and and being kind of dedicated to your path and and and I feel like that's the underappreciated aspect of of understanding you and your career a lot of people arrive in New York City every single day with a similar dream or ambition that you had when you were a young person and you arrived there and a lot of those people are very beautiful you're beautiful but that doesn't tell the story of how you translated like an opportunity into the career that you had and I think between the lines there is an intense work ethic and a very intentional approach to what you were doing like how did you apply those skills like what is the differentiator between you and the career that you've enjoyed versus you know the other beautiful people who aren't enjoying the same kind of career you can't and you're not allowed to say luck or you're you know no I don't believe I don't believe in luck I don't believe in luck I believe in hard work and but I believe in um I mean I think discipline but I also believe that I always treated everyone the way I like to be treated and I've always was appreciative I have this immense sense of gratitude for just being there so even though you know people were like oh you know you you know when I was 19 I was like I want the model of you know the model of the year and everybody's like how does it feel to be it didn't really it doesn't matter to me because quite frankly I never saw myself as a motel it's just not something I didn't drink the Kool-Aid I didn't believe because I was a model or because I I became successful in this job like I was better than anybody I just and I didn't believe that I believe that I just got to learn that craft really well and I understood what the job entail and like I learned how to do the job really well but by no means is what defined me it's just something I did it's not it's not who I am I don't know if you know it's like I go there I had this opportunity at you know 13 14 years old when I finally left home and and and and St pursued this career that really I thought it was just really I did it for the money I did it because I was like what else am I going to do at 14 years old that I can help my family you know I don't have any other jobs that are offering me an opportunity so I'll take this one so for me it was really like a job so I never like it didn't kind of Define me I kind of did it my way like I never became like you know it was like oh it needs to be glamorous I was never glamorous I'm a jeans and t-shirt type of girl like I if I needed to go to parties or hang out with this type of people I never did any of that like I went there I did my job I did the best that I could I never was late in my life for my jobs like never showed up like late I was there before everyone I was there 100% you know I I I just wanted to make sure that if people were booking me and they they were trusting in me that I was going to show up and deliver you know and I think that's kind of what it was I did it my way you know and it didn't broke me kind of Cu I saw you know people in this business you know you can lose yourself because if you drink the Kool-Aid if you start thinking you know like you lose yourself in it I never lost myself it was just a job and it's still just a job I can't even believe I'm still doing it sometimes I go in and I do it you it's not it's not what I do full- time anymore but it's just one of those things that you know I got to do this I got to make a career out of it and got to make a great living and help my family and I I have wonderful you know I got to travel the world and learn different languages and and and all of that and that's how I see it I don't see it as a you know I don't see myself you're not defined by it you're not you're not caught up in in the kind of dark underbelly of that very strange world this whole world is like almost like a parallel reality for me you know what I mean if something is like a switch on button I go there I do my job I take my picture I turn it off I go home and I have the same friends I have my my family I'm very close with my family but I think you're very good at seeing opportunities when they arise and you tell a little story in in in the new book about being 14 and on route to Tokyo and your parents gave you your dad gave you a little bit of money that was intended for getting a cab from that's the first day arve in s Paulo and instead of using that money oh it was you were super young right so you had a little bit of money to take a tab and you had the presence of mind to say this money would be better spent buying some clothes so I can do better in my auditions or whatnot um which isn't like that's not normal like that's somebody who's thinking ahead who's planning long term who's understanding that they have an opportunity in front of them and trying to figure out how to make the most out of it with limited resources and I think that speaks to or says a lot about your sensibility or your perspective as a business person yeah I mean it's so interesting to see it that way I mean I for me at that moment in time you know I I I just felt like I did something else than that you know that was one of the things and now that you're saying that I actually did that throughout because I bought my first apartment when I was 19 years old and when everybody was buying you know designer bags all the models and you know like remember I didn't know I was going to last in this business I thought like I didn't go to school I didn't go to high school I didn't you know I I left I I went to work and whenever I go I go back I thought I was going to be a farmer or something because I just always love the land and but I I didn't think like you know like where am I going to go from here so I have to make sure that I have at least a place to live I'm a cancer so I want to have like a stable home and when I was 19 you know people start flying me first class because I was like the model of the year right saw all the clients now are paying me first class I was exchanging those tickets for Coach classes because I was every two three days in a different country and instead of paying um my you know a rent in an apartment I pay I put down a down payment for an apartment and then I was paying my mortgage instead of paying rent and you're 19 and I was 19 so I I own my first apartment as 19 years old it was like a in in New York City it was like facing a wall of another building mind you he was like a very apartment you know that does require some maturity and some long-term thinking well well because I just thought to myself like you know I don't know how long I'm going to stay here you know I i' I at least I have to have a place to live if I like I'm not going to live empty-handed you know what I mean like what do I care about a bag or like what is that going to give me it's not going to be a roof over my head I need to make sure that I have that I can spend in the right places but I think that sense came from my mother because we grew up you know my mother was a cashier in the bank my father had like lots of different jobs like he had a real estate job but he was you know my mom they literally we we were like really simple people and grew up in two bedrooms with six girls and and and money was all always tight so I learned how to is the same thing in the book is like how do you prepare how do you not waste food I mean everything is like I think in my life I was kind of like raised that way you know what I mean kind of plan ahead like for tomorrow so you make sure that you have like food for everyone like like we're going to reuse the meat we cook on the barbecue and we're going to put it in the rice we're going to have carera so we're going to have an abundant meal because we have the rest of the you know what I mean it's kind of like that it's like you put money in the bank so when you retire you have something to to live off when you can no longer work the same thing I feel about food like you eat the right food so when you're older you you're able to have the energy and your body is functioning because you made the right choices so for me it's the same thing you know it's kind of making like just being kind of what is necessary here like do I really need this what do I need more do I need a roof over my head or do I need this this bags and this stuff do I need to take a taxi when I arrive to the model apartment when I'm 14 even though I never been to the city or can I take the subway and save the money so I can get the clothes for the casting and maybe I can get a job it's like it's kind of thinking like with the resources that I have right now what is the smartest how is the smartest way to use them I guess if you're like me never without a water bottle let's get it right people allow me to rock your world with my new favorite toy that's actually not a toy at all it's a non-negotiable essential camel backs Podium steel 100% % leak proof water bottle emphasis on leak proof for all 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it's you know what it is it's a character I always call call it her because I think being a MTO what I understood as being a motto is to play a character in a silent movie you know you get to experience all these different charact all these different aspects of of of being a woman let's say because one designer wants you to be more androgynous you know one designer was you know I remember diding a Balin Saga campaign I was like they made me a boy I was like literally like a week I was like a man a boy and in one I was like the sexy Versace campaign like you know like with big hair and like you know pushup bra you know so it was kind of like I got to play from the the androgynous girl to the very sexy to the tomb boy like I got to you know I mean you should see I don't know if you ever saw my book the other one that was like the 20 years I did a 20 well I watched the video that you did where you kind of went through it and you were talking about what was going on with you with each of those photographs yeah so it's it's it's it's really about kind of playing these different roles but it's just instead of you talking like you would be in a movie you're just you got to make the image that picture that one capture image to to it's a performance art it's a performance art but it's such a weird world I know that like Alexander McQueen he was like he was really the Catalyst right he was the guy who gave me the chance you know he gave me the the chance but when you watch his shows or some of these other shows like the designs are are stunning and gorgeous but they're also totally inaccessible it's like who wears this does anybody is there anybody in the world that even wear I mean if you're Lady Gaga I guess or somebody like that but like yeah it's a fantasy and so it's curious like how does that translate into I guess it's just how you feel and how you think about a particular designer or a brand and not so much about directly selling those designs to the person who's going to the department store or the boutique right yeah they're not thinking I don't even understand the business model of the whole thing yeah I me neither to be honest with you but I think it's a really I mean I think it has changed a lot uh since I started like I see a big shift because I think before there was a lot more creativity there was allowed a lot more creativity I think you know McQueen or JN galano you know the shows and stuff like you were like in a world like sure and the photographers being rock stars themselves oh yeah and and it was a I think it was a moment in time where there was so much less about selling but it was much more about the the inspiration and the aspir aspiring you know the aspiration of creating like a fantasy and like a and it was a lot of fun then I have to say at that time because I would have been dead I wouldn't have survived it I would have gone all in I would have been at every after hours party it would have been a disaster you see I was in bed like studying my astrology books like by 10 you know that was me I was like by 10 I was like oh no I have to go I was like I have to start early so I can go to bed early so for me it was a a different thing but um you know but I guess for me I also fell very responsible because I didn't want to one of the The Guiding lights for me I really believe was my parents because I saw how hard they work and I didn't want to disappoint them so I think part of like me being so stay on the line was like I'm not disappointing my parents I don't care if they're not here they are going to know what I'm doing like I remember part of the reason why I got so freaked out about the McQueen show and they sent me out like without a top because I couldn't speak English and they didn't even do a feeding anyway so then I was I was like oh my God if my parents see this they're GNA make me go back home and then I you know what is it like when you go internet but there was no internet in 1997 19 it wasn't so thank God because they didn't even saw that otherwi they would have been like what what are you doing I be like I don't know and you have five siblings right I have five sisters I'm a middle child I have two older sisters and two younger sisters and I'm a twin MH in the middle so we like the the sandwich like the cheese in the sandwich being Brazilian uh you're connected to the Amazon and to climate change issues and you've done a lot in terms of your environmental advocacy and clean water initiatives talk a little bit about how that began and and what that looked like now you know I um I've always been a big um basically like a child of nature I always tell my children when they ask you know what's your religion they say Mom we don't go to church I say you know what you're in church every day I say I say what do I say when people ask what my what my religion is I say love is your religion and nature is your church that's your Cathedral that's the big church that's our Temple you know so you honor your temple you love your temple you CU that's the only reason why we are all alive because this whole ecosystem is making it possible you know to grow our food to give us to provide us with all the things we need to survive so U and that's how I grew up I felt that way and especially having a grandmother that everything was from the earth you know she grew everything she ate and and uh you know the Earth was giving us the herbs that we needed to like when we fell ill and and I grew up in that way so when you grew up in that way and you grew up running around bare feet you know I come from a small village and anytime you want to eat something you grab there was like a tangerine tree or like a orange tree or is a plum tree and you just go and pick up the fruit from the tree we never bought fruits from the supermarket you know you go either you had it in your backyard or your neighbor had it or the other neighbor you know somebody had the fruit he wanted to eat you just go grab it so I think when you leave with that connection to Nature you have a different appreciation it's like so I feel like nature is just like it's it's it's me like I think we are n you know we are that and I think this connection from nature for me is not something it's just something I've always known you know is how I grew up and so for me um taking care of which I love which is nature is natural um so the but the first time I realized there was really problems happening is when I went to actually spend some time uh with the indigenous people in shingu area of the Amazon in the 2004 and that's when the first time I realized you know pesticide what's what pesticides were doing where mining was doing how they were contaminating the rivers and basically all the indigenous tribes they were living and depending on the that water they were getting sick and even though they were living very wholesomely you know with nature and you know by the impact that the big farms and different Mining and all that stuff was having um was really um having a really terrible impact in their in their their livelihoods and and that's when the first time I was like I need to do something about it and that's when I started like I had a flipflop line at the time in Brazil and we gave a percentage you know to that's actually a funny story the the the indigenous people and I was like I wonder what they would do with this with this funds but it was like a group that helped indigenous in Brazil and the funny enough when I did when I turned 40 this was in 2004 so I was like 24 cut to when I'm 40 2020 I was 40 um I wanted to do something for my 40th birthday and I was like oh I want to plant some trees in the in in the Amazon and how we going to do it so we looked around for who can help us do that and we contacted the the people that are working with the indigenous people that we knew in in Brazil and they're like we have the largest seed bank in the Amazon and we started with the money with the whole program that you gave in 2004 that money that was for the sale of the flipflops now years later they had the largest seed bank of you know the indigenous they they they collected the larger seed bank and this is how with that whole group of people we basically planted over 300,000 trees in that area of the Amazon so that was like years later so that's just how funny how life goes but for me because I was so connected to nature and I always wanted to help and my dad always said you know water is the most important thing and of course I saw that with the indigenous people because that's how they were all getting sick because all the the you know residue of Mining and and and pesticides were going into their water in my little village we were having a lot of problems with agriculture as well where there was a lot of runoffs from Roundup and all the stuff that they use in agriculture all the pesticides and stuff and it was getting a lot of people sick so we actually did the AGA limpa program in 200 I think it was 20 the N or I don't remember when we started but it was like a long time ago and I funded it and my dad who's also a sociologist worked with the university and we and we basically regenerated the whole area of the river that was kind of you know getting the water to the city and we were able to clean it it took us like a few years to do it you know it was pretty simple because all we had to do I mean it was not simple my dad is the one who did the work it was simpler for me I just kind of funded it but he was there every day he had to work with I don't know how many farmers you had to take their pie of land and kind of grow the native species Forest you know the native Forest back so then the there's a buffer there was a buffer and then the root systems could could filtrate it before all that stuff would go into the river and then that was the agal limpa project and that was one of the projects we did to clean the water and anyway so there's lots of different things but in overall thing my my thing is you know we got to take care of Mother Earth she takes care of us you know when people say to me oh we're going to save the planet I say you're that's such an ego thing you know as humans we think we're going to save anything the planets is in her own process of evolution this is a you know it's I mean dinosaurs were here before us and you know lur I mean so many different civilizations the planet will be fine that's what I always say I say please don't fool yourself I think we really saving ourselves we need to yeah I say there's no Sav we need re ourselves back yeah this is really about us protecting the resources and and taking care of what we really need for our survival because once we are gone the planet is going to regenerate I mean I've seen this over and over again the planet regenerates itself so quickly you know because it's it's just a very intelligent we need to learn from nature instead of like trying to control nature we need to just like take a humble pill and and learn from the Big Mama we've moved so far away from that and we do live in this dualistic mindset where we think there's you know our environments and then there's nature or there's us and that's outside um but really understanding that you're never out of nature as you as you said um I think it's the first point of trying to really deepen your relationship with the world in which you live we all live and share and I think when it comes to the Amazon like we all hear about deforestation and all the you know clearing that's going on for cattle grazing and the strip mining and all the stuff that you mentioned but it's an abstraction especially for you know people in North America like we know what's going on we know it's bad but I've never visited there like I've never seen it myself and you being Brazilian gives you kind of a deeper appreciation and understanding of the extent of it you know I think it's how people tell the story because I think it's a lot deeper than you know I think people like depending on the industry that wants to benefit from something that tell the story and they say okay this is what we're going to do is about the cing oh yeah it's so crazy a lot of NOS go in there and they say we're going to have an NGO because we're going to like protect Amazon but they're meantime they're the owners of the bigger paper company that comes from the Amazon they are just not you know what I mean so there it's not not all is as it seems no it's it's a very it's a wild wild west there and one of the biggest you know I've been there a few times and also done a lot of um just kind of like talking to people and understanding what happens there and a lot of the you know there's ancient Woods there and a lot of that goes to Europe so like what a lot of the the cattle for example is what they use to kind of occupy the land but what they're really after which is really valuable there is like gold and Min m you know the the rare medals the rare medals yeah the rare medals and the gold and all that stuff that's in there that's what interest this like you know the different um countries let's say they are not brail when they and because it's so corrupt unfortunately you know Brazil is very corrupt the politicians are very corrupt what happens is they sell those rights to those countries and then we have what we have and then the cattle like in the end they just kind of put them there because they have to occupy the land after they REM because they have to enter if you go there after they removed everything because they have to remove the value the value then they then they put all the cows there that's what they do so they remove the ancient wood they they remove the precious metals and and but they have to get there because if you fly over it it mean you're flying for hours over just a Green carpet so for you to have access to that you have to you can't just like clear cut because it grows so what they do to keep the the the forest from growing they just throw because it's very fertile the soil as soon as you cut because imagine that soil is been there like receiving all those back healthy bacteria from the leaves falling super fertile So within like three days you can Grass Grows Right and then in order for the trees not to keep growing because if you just leave abandon that's what's going to happen the birds are going to carry the seeds they're going to drop the seeds they're going to things are going to start growing again and then they won't have access you know so they kind of it's just like a cycle like but what is really after what they're really after it is the big stuff is the is the and and it's not unfortunately you know it's h it's so sad you know is greed mhm in the end of the day is greed and is greed by people that you know they don't have those natural resources where they are and and they understand the situation in Brazil and how corrupt the this the the 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their best interest from a wellness perspective I think the number one thing I feel is like monkey see monkey does right I think you have to be the example you have to leave it um cuz I think whatever you say is one thing and whatever you do you they need to kind they need to whatever you say whatever you do they have to be the same thing right sympatico yeah they have to be sympatico and um and that's what it is and and I think for the kids for my kids were were a lot easier because I was home a lot with them so I was you know taking them to school every day making their breakfast you know just having my Gardens at home growing the food so when the kids would come for play dates at the house you know my kids were grabbing like everything raw cucumbers carrots like green beans they were just grabbing it from the garden and like collecting things and putting in the basket it was like a game for them and it was like oh friends are coming over why are we going to grab for the for to Door picnic outside and then so they grew up in that way you know they they uh so it was easier for me to feed them healthier food and and and and explain to them you know we always compost it we had bees at our house um so you know they they were learning about you know when The Beekeeper would come and they explain you know how much be how much honey can you take and how much money how much honey do you leave for the bees and how does a the how does a queen bee work and all the so they were they're emotionally connected they were emotionally connected they were part of that like I was as a kid so um so for them is really natural and they were also homeschooled for the last three years um during the you know the whole pandemic thing I and we moved from Boston to Tampa so um it was a whole new world for them so I I homeschooled them and now they just went back to school but I have to tell you I see a huge difference especially because my son is 14 now so he wants to kind of push back this is what I'm getting at oh yeah well how old kid well they range from 28 to 16 and each one of there's four and each of them is different um but it's a delicate dance because you know we raised our kids similarly um but they reach a certain age and part of individuation and maturing is taking ownership for your own choices and understanding what you stand for and what you don't and in order to really Define that and hone that you have to go out and kind of push the envelope and try new things otherwise it's just something you're doing because that's the way you were raised and that's what your parents told you as opposed to really owning it for yourself and so so we have learned that you have to have the brains very loose and and let them go out and do what they want to do and control the environment at home but be you know very kind of nonplused if they go and make a choice that you wouldn't make or whatever and just be curious about it and allow them the space to do that and you know you hope they come back and you know do it the way you taught them to um and sometimes they do and sometimes they don't and again every one of them is different in our case but as they get to a certain point and especially you know when they're with peers and friends and they're in social situations those things they have to learn for themselves and you have to allow them to I think it's so interesting so you have to let go a little bit oh let go and let God yeah I tell myself that is like a mantra you know and and and I I I remind myself of like my mom let me leave home she emancipated me and I was leing in Japan at 14 and there was no cell phones like I call you know can you imagine doing that for one of your children right now no and actually you know what it's so funny because I was having a conversation with my son about that he um he was complaining you know I have chores in my house you know kids have to do their chores so set the table wash the dishes you know now I make a point you know I cook at you know they come from school I'm cooking you know they so one has to set the table whoever sets the table the other has to wash the dishes and there is like you have to clean your room you have to do the basic stuff you know my daughter is doing amazingly she loves it and she's like really good and very proud of herself mom look how good I cleaned the dishes like she's really good and she's washing herself she's not putting it in the machine she wants to learn how to really wash it and and and do it right and she's very focused on it my son is like always like why do I have to do this you know so actually we had like a breakthrough this Christmas this this whole holiday season because I said he says to me I'm going to leave home when I'm 18 mom and I don't know if I'm going to go to college you didn't go to college you didn't go to school I'm going to just leave home when I'm 18 and I'm going to do this and I'm going to do that I'm like okay that's great so you're going to leave in your own apartment and who's going to cook for you and who's going to wash your dishes and who's going to clean your clothes who's going to do that and he's like for a second he's like because you're not going to have a chef and like a you know like and he was thinking for a second and I say well this is why when mommy tells you to do those things at home you know is because I want to give you more tools for your tool boox because when you learn how to do those things and they become second nature to you then you don't even have to think about it you become empowered to do it for yourself you don't depend on anybody and that's nothing it's amazing to be able to do that I said you know what made me feel so like strong and capable when I left my home because my mom taught me how to do those things so when I left home and I was leaving by myself at 14 years old I was first at 13 at 14 I moved to Japan but because I was leaving in the mod's apartment I was the only person there who knew how to clean cook iron do absolutely everything in the house because my mom taught me and it was easy for me I didn't think it was a struggle I was happy to do it and I was happy to to do it for the other girls that didn't know how to do it but if you're going to be planning on leaving on your own at 18 who do you think is going to do all those things for you so all I'm telling you is like take advantage that mommy's here for you right now and I'm able to teach you all those things and you can do it at your time I'm not telling you like at this time you have to wash the dishes so let me just help you I'm going to create a list for you and you just have to do them and you can decide if you want to wash clothes once or twice a week you can decide if you want to wash the dishes right after dinner or before you go to bed whatever you want but if you learn how to do those things you're going to see how empowered you're going to feel and the more tools we can put like the more things like the simple things like that that you can learn and that you can equip your tool box to do you're just going to be just that much like capable and and and there's nothing more fulfilling than feeling like you're able to do stuff that you're capable and then he looked at me and he's like okay mom so when we get back home you give me that list and I'm going to do it I'm like I wow I was going to say like he actually he actually receiv that I I think I have a breakthrough I think I got a breakthrough with the hormones are raging like whatever mom you know storming off like you can get you can get that reaction too that was good good job don't you think that was a good thing but but I used but you see it was a moment that I used what he said because when he thought to himself that's true how am I going to do all that stuff I said you don't want to live in like a you know a messy stinky place that is not clean like you know you want to like have you know so you need to know how to do this stuff and I think all I I see like all the things that happen in life like that like different tools we acquire you know even the job that I you know my job like all the tools that I've acquired in this job all the things that I've learned to do um that I don't know when I'm going to use I use them for my job but maybe I'm going to they going to be useful like in 20 years from my life sure but you came from very different circumstances it's the it's the Peril of success right like you and and the kid's dad like worked very hard to achieve all of these things in life and now they're reared in you know like an insane degree of privilege and it becomes more difficult to instill that kind of work ethic into somebody who you know grows up that way I think you're correct I think it becomes a lot more difficult but I think goes back to the discipline and it goes back to priorities and I think it for me it becomes about what kind of you know I I feel like I'm their Guardian because we don't possess our children right I mean we just come here they come through us but they're as much as our teachers as we are they're teachers and we're constantly learning and teaching you know in every relationship in our life and and I feel that we get this moment in time which is very short in a way that we get to influence our children because then they go I mean look at my parents they had 14 years to influence me then I was out in the world and I never went back and I keep remembering like what are all the things that if they wouldn't have taught me those things where would I be today and I'm so grateful for them for for those lessons and I feel like yes I grew up in very different circumstances than my kids and it is a bit more challenging to have them you know make their bed and wash the dishes and clean their you know when I have a person that can do it too but I make a point of me doing it so then they learn that oh Mommy's doing the dinner Mommy is making the breakfast mommy is so they're like weel you have to model and I feel like it's a different kind of modeling is it is the type of modeling that I prefer it's it's the type of modeling that I find to be the important type of modeling because that's the you know I mean what's Mo the most important thing you're going to do in your life I feel like raising children is is by far the most challenging thing I've ever done and the most uh fulfilling at the same time and you know but I feel that if if I if I don't do that if I don't equip my children to be good capable assets you know for themselves in their lives if they're not going to be then I fail I I feel yeah you haven't done your job then I haven't done my job I mean I feel that's my job I mean that's a job I do to kind of make a living so I can like you know put foot on the table and have but my real job as as I think as a as a mom and I chose to be a mom so I have to show up for my kids and I feel like this things that my you know I think is really what shaped me and what made me who I am today was definitely the upbringing that I had and and what my parents how they guided me and I feel like that's really important so I make that a priority in my life to make sure that my kids are going to have even though they don't have those same needs you know to do those things because my mom didn't have a a person she could pay to come clean the house we had to you clean the bathroom you clean the you know it was like a list all of us have to share between us who's going to do what and we grew up that way and it was kind of fun because you know I was always I always love the cleaning part you know I love organizing and cleaning I feel like a clean house is a clean mind is like a what's out is in you know if like if everything is organized outside I can think um and I tell my kids that and I feel that um if I can really get them to do those simple things in life you know and and learn those things and teach them how to be self-sufficient and capable human beings I feel like I've done my job and then I can rest and then whatever else they do the choices they make if they choose to eat the food that I fed them when they were little if now they want to go eat you know whatever or I mean it's going to be what they're going to do you know they're going to choose their friends hopefully they they choose wisely because in the end of the day they're going to be the one dealing with the consequences of their actions and I always tell them like listen you know you're going to go out there and you're going to make the Cho whatever choice you make there are going to be consequences you're dealing with those consequences me this is your life and sometimes they need to they need to make those mistakes and face those consequences like we had I mean how many mistakes that I mean I have and those those experiences are formative like I'm sure if you look in the rear view mirror and think about the panic attacks that you were having on airplanes and your inability to get into an elevator and you know this desire to jump off your balcony on some level you wouldn't wish that experience on anybody but you probably wouldn't wna change your experience either because it's set in motion this whole sensibility and way of being that you now have and I think with kids they regardless of whether they hear you in the moment or whether they go out into the world and make a bunch of mistakes like they come back yeah and whatever you taught them it's in there and at some point when they're ready or whatever like they return to it and you know and and I think to to trust that it's very important and I also feel like because if you try to overly control it you're going to drive them away absolutely and and you know I think for me I keep going back to me as a kid and the trust my parents had in me to let me go and I wouldn't be who I am today if it wasn't for them trusting in me and for all the mistakes that I've made and then had to come the other side and figure out for myself so I think it's important to give our children the Dignity of Their Own process you know because we had a dignity you know we have to go through our own process to become who we are and I think as long as they know that we are there and what what is our values you know is like those things that are important what is what is that we stand for what's important for us you know as as as as a as a value as a core value as as as a being a good human being and a good person and if you thought that your children and and they and they got it in the end of the day they're going to go out there in the world and they're going to have to make their mistakes and I I think the best thing you can do for them it's is just be there for them whenever they they come back and if they want your help you know and I think it's it's hard because you want to protect them like you can put Bobble wrap on them so like nothing will touch them and they will be safe but in the end of the day that's unrealistic and it's like it doesn't work anyway you know what I like this idea you know there's a metaphor of the butterfly imagine the caterpillar as she's transforming into becoming the butterfly she's you know eating eating all the you know until she finally starts spinning into a cocoon and and then she has to like go through that whole stous process if you ever seen like you know they turn into GP yeah but they're like but it's exactly it's just and it's really kind of like hard to like when they're coming out it's like really awkward and it looks like they're very strenuous and very difficult so if you go in there and you try to help them come out you're going to them you're going to the butterfly and she won't be able to have the strength she needs struggle is the struggle is what crucial to the the growth and you have to give them the Dignity of their own process you have to be and I and I keep reminding myself I cannot take away that opportunity for them because my parents gave me the opportunity for me to go through my own challenges and I grew and and I want my kids to have that same opportunity because whoever they're going to become is going to be based on what their choice is and hopefully I gave them enough good examples and and and good um values where they would make the choices that is right for them you know what is it that you want people to understand or take away from the new book and and how you are modeling this lifestyle um whether it's dietary changes Lifestyle Changes uh movement practices how can somebody who is interested in kind of leveling up across the board begin the process of of making those changes in their life you know it's funny you know because when I decided to do a cookbook I'm the farthest thing there is from a chef let me tell you something I I am not a chef let me just like let's be honest you've got a private Chef in home that person is taking care of everything not anymore I used to you don't anymore no I don't I don't it's no the last two years I don't you're cooking your own meals yes I'm cooking my own meals yeah I I grew up there way and I want like I told you like my priority is showing my kids what I believe it's important for them and and and I can't I can't say oh this is important and then I have and I'm not doing it you know what I mean so it has to be cohesive right and and I think that for me um really being like living what I believe is very important and I was showing my kids that this is important to me like the only way I'm going to show them that is by doing that so yes I had chefs and this is how I learn how to cook a lot of the things a lot of the recipes in the book are like inspired by the things that I created with the chefs that I throughout the years I had the opportunity to you know to really work with Incredible people incredible Chef people that love food as much as I do because I love food um but was really an idea for me to look I can say go and meditate go and exercise you know I believe meditation I believe rest I believe um exercise I believe nutrition all of those things are extremely important for you to be able to take kind of ownership of your health and really take care of yourself and have and work on just having a more clear mind and just feeling more connected to yourself I think all of those things are different aspects of it but the reason about the cookbook is quite frankly I was seeing kids were coming to our house and in play dates and and moms will come and be like how did you get my kid to eat broccoli or roasted vegetables or and it was like so simple and I was like oh maybe we can share how to make some simple recipes that are super easy you can make it like in 10 minutes and you know moms some you know you just sometimes feel overwhelmed and I know because life is busy there's so so much going on so I was like how can I help in this way and also I feel like food is a perfect time for you to practice being present and mindful because you can eat like on a rush and not being present and the food have a one effect in your body or you can do something which is what I talk about in the book is like every time I look at my food not only the act of preparing your food there so much loves and you're touching the food and you're connecting with your food that's one thing but even if you're not the one cooking your food just to take a moment to bless your food to acknowledge that that is something that is alive that you're taking it and you're that's also your source of life you know so it's kind of like connecting to the food in that way I think it it does something because everything is energy so you're having a transfer of energy with something and with the intention that you're eating it has a different I I feel huge you know when I start doing that does make a difference how he has a different just being present and being connected to what you're doing having gratitude for that moment and you get to do that three times a day you know I mean now I have a juice once a day but I still blast my juice but it's just kind of like it's just this book what I would like to to to for people to take is like it can be really simple it doesn't have to be complicated to to eat healthy and really like if you have plans you know my mom taught me you know since I was a kid like no food waste so how can we organize our meals so can there's a big thing about like reducing waste yeah there for me that's huge and also like me planning like if you're going to buy because or you know food sourcing that's huge it's not about having something with a lot of condiments and a lot of stuff it's just like keep it simple but buying really great quality products like if you can do that and then instead of like because a lot of people are like oh and then you buy organic and then you throw it out because it's like you know it spoils much faster and I'm like yeah but if you have a meal planning and I and I teach that I kind of give some suggestions in the book like my mom did that I grew up like that because she didn't have time you know she was working all the time so she had like in the fridge like what we going to have for the whole week so she would go to the groceries and she would buy and then the things were allowed to the next day so you would always know what we were eating and things that wouldn't be eaten could be easily transferred for the next day and be made into the next organiz so that nothing spoils and you're so nothing spoils and you never had food waste because you're always taking it from one day to the next so is never wasting you always	um so for them is really natural and they were also homeschooled for the last three years um during the you know the whole pandemic thing I and we moved from Boston to Tampa so um it was a whole new world for them so I I homeschooled them and now they just went back to school but I have to tell you I see a huge difference especially because my son is 14 now so he wants to kind of push back this is what I'm getting at oh yeah well how old kid well they range from 28 to 16 and each one of there's four and each of them is different um but it's a delicate dance because you know we raised our kids similarly um but they reach a certain age and part of individuation and maturing is taking ownership for your own choices and understanding what you stand for and what you don't and in order to really Define that and hone that you have to go out and kind of push the envelope and try new things otherwise it's just something you're doing because that's the way you were raised and that's what your parents told you as opposed to really owning it for yourself and so so we have learned that you have to have the brains very loose and and let them go out and do what they want to do and control the environment at home but be you know very	7	4	6	um so for them is really natural and they were also homeschooled for the last three years um during the you know the whole pandemic thing I and we moved from Boston to Tampa so um it was a whole new world for them so I I homeschooled them and now they just went back to school but I have to tell you I see a huge difference especially because my son is 14 now so he wants to kind of push back	oh yeah well how old kid well they range from 28 to 16 and each one of there's four and each of them is different um but it's a delicate dance because you know we raised our kids similarly um but they reach a certain age and part of individuation and maturing is taking ownership for your own choices and understanding what you stand for and what you don't and in order to really Define that and hone that you have to go out and kind of push the envelope and try new things otherwise it's just something you're doing because that's the way you were raised and that's what your parents told you as opposed to really owning it for yourself and so so we have learned that you have to have the brains very loose and and let them go out and do what they want to do and control the environment at home but be you know very	3,4,6	6,5,8	3	4	6	6	5	8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjK5ahIgsHA	4,193	rjK5ahIgsHA	2024-03-25 00:00:00	the choices that you're making are really either supporting you or not straight from the pages of Victoria Secret please welcome jaelle bunin gazelle bunin gazelle has walked in nearly 500 fashion shows and great the covers of more than 1,200 different magazines on paper like you're perhaps highly unrelatable you know what it is it's a character that's the job I do to kind of make a living so I can like you know put foot on the table raising children is is by far the most challenging thing I've ever done it's a different kind of modeling is the type of modeling that I prefer food is a perfect time for you to practice being present and mindful because it can be really simple it doesn't have to be complicated to eat healthy nature is just like it's me instead of like trying to control nature we need to just like take a humble pill and and learn from the Big Mama [Music] today's episode is brought to you by the awesome organizations that make this show [Music] possible so nice to meet you nice to meet you too so excited to have you here today yes when this opportunity presented itself I was like of course I want to talk to Jazelle and then I had my own like sort of mini panic attack we're going to get into panic attacks I'm like what could I possibly talk to this person about the alltime great super model of all time everybody knows this on paper like you're perhaps highly unrelatable but then the more you dig into your story and the more I kind of learned about your Arc and your past and what brought you to this place there's so much that's deeply relatable and your kind of transformation story is remarkably similar to mine although you did yours at like 23 I was 40 um but there's so much in there so I thought it would be cool to kind of um talk a little bit about what it was like what happened and how you made these changes in your life because I think you're in this interesting new season right now where despite the fact that you've been this Wellness Advocate and wellness Warrior for a long time my sense is that there's a there's a more full Embrace of of that now with kind of how you see yourself and what's important to you a well thank you for the introduction you know the funny thing is I you know people's you know what I did for a living is something that kind of just happened to me at 14 years old you know it was it was like hey do you want to be a model and I thought oh I can help my family you know I can do make a living and and help you know I have five sisters and and all that so modeling to me is something that is um an opportunity that came along like I think in life you have these opportunities that either you take that train and then see where it goes you know and I never even believed that this was going to take me and I was going to be doing this for almost 30 years you know it's it's one of those things that I was like oh I'll start doing this job and you know send money home and help my sisters go through school and do all that and um and maybe in five years you know I'll get a house because I didn't even go to school you know I I I was emancipated at 14 yeah you were in Tokyo at 14 I was living in Japan without speaking English and J or Japanese and that's when I when I start learning the language of of of energy you know what I mean because you don't have to understand the language you just have to feel you know something there's a lot more that has been said without words you know sure so I start learning about that um but I think that I went through this journey of modeling which was something I thought was going to last five years and I was just going to help my family out for a little bit and it just kept going you know it just kept happening you know I I didn't even think you can have longevity in this career because it's not what I what I saw really around me happening um but you know I kept it kept working out so I kept doing it and it was kind of a Mindless thing you know when you got in the hamster wheel and I think we do that sometimes in life and you're so young you don't know and you Liv the fast life and all of that so in my early 20s I um developed you know anxiety and panic attacks and all that because you know when you drink a bottle of wine and that because you like I used to be a smoker so I smoke I can't even imagine I used to smoke it feels like a whole different life you know but um it was the late 90s and there was a lot of um drugs and fashion and all that so I thought I was saying just because I was like having some wine and smoking cigarettes everybody was doing way worse things than yeah I'm sure you've seen a lot I've seen a lot yeah that's a whole other show about that that's a whole other story but yeah so um you know so that was the beginning for me to start reconnecting with myself because I think when I was 14 and I got that train my only focus was like how can I be the best that I can do on this and and and that was my focus and and I didn't meure any sacrifice he was like if I had to work 360 days a year and I felt like I couldn't say no because people were giving me a chance and then I was like in this really overdrive uh and burn down my adrenals I found out later when I found this amazing natural Doctor Who told me like listen you don't have any more adrenal they're shut down because you burn them basically I'm like but I'm only 22 you know so um basically I had to change the habits that I you know smoking a pack of cigarettes drinking alcohol every day to myself down coffee all day to keep myself up and also going from you know one time zone to the next I was three days in Paris two days in London one day in New York going back to you know my life was in a living in a suitcase and of course your nervous system is going to freak out you know and the way I was eating it was very you know anything that was in front of me I was just like not mindful about anything you know I was just kind of um like a Workhorse and when that happen to me is when I you know I come from a family that is very my my grandmother had a tea for everything so we never had we were not the kind of you know you get sick let me see this herbal remedy that we you know so yeah you grew up in kind of a small village right in Brazil your grandmother was cultivating herbs and she was the person that everyone would go to for their remedy so you have this sort of background and connection you know with the Earth exactly that you know is kind of lingering in the back of your mind when you're just you know hammering nails and and you know drinking wine and living that life but you're young it's like that's kind of what your 20s are for kind of and you're you're on this like Jet Plane I mean figuratively and literally like your career's taking off on top of that a people pleasing tendency where you feel like you have to say yes to everything and you're just go go go go go yeah and and I think but that was a big wakeup call for me because I think sometimes you know you have to reach rock bottom and when I had that those anxiety and they start becoming like almost CRI because I couldn't get on planes he was just you know I was going to all these doctors and they were like you have to take this stuff and I was just afraid of taking anything because I've never taken anything you know I was a there was a t for for this there you know my grandmother wasn't there so finally you know I wasn't going to take any medication because just the idea of taking something I was like I was normal before how can I go back being what I was you know like I I I didn't have these issues so what's happening long story short I found this doctor I had to replace my habits it was that simple I had to replace these habits that had created the reality I was living at that moment which was you know um really killing me in in so many ways you know killing my spirit killing my and and I replace it with good habits so now instead of smoking cigarettes and having a mocha frappuccino in the morning I'll would go out and do breath work and go out for a run and you know I replace in one day I gave up everything because he he looked at me he said jelle he called me Adrenalina he says do you want to live and I said I do he's like so we going to CH change my diet and that's for the first time in my life that I realized that I I was really like the one who got myself there and I was the only person who could get myself out by the choices that I was making so I had to take full responsibility for what I had created but it was in my power only in my power to change that there were no doctors nobody who was going to save me I had to change um you know the choices I was making and I and I did that and it was incredible because after over a year and a half like really struggling with anxiety and panic attacks and all that within 3 months I was like I never had another incident and it was you know and and once you start meditating I mean at that point this was 20 years ago right it wasn't like people were talking about meditation and yoga any other that um it was just um you know when you sit in silence and you and you reflect which is what we don't really give ourselves time to do because the world is so fastpaced and everything is catching your attention is trying to throw you off your Center you know everything is so busy it's like an overload of information to have that space to go inside and reflect and look and really take a step back I think that was the biggest blessing of my life so really I think what could have killed me is what gave me a whole new life and it was amazing because since then like everything changed like I realized that food is my medicine I realized that I am the director of my own movie that I'm creating my reality based on the choices that I'm making but what I'm choosing to not the people I'm choosing to have around in my life but what type of energy what kind of thoughts I allow to what am I feeding you know what kind of thoughts am I so all of that so that became like a big um changing of seasons for me in my early 20s what were those first couple weeks like if you went completely cold turkey on all of these bad habits I think it was like a drug addict I never was a I guess I was a drug etic only legal drugs because I guess alcohol is a drug and so is cigarettes nicotine and all that and caffeine and all that but they're like socially accepted but I tell you that I had the worst migraine I mean I felt like the I mean maybe that's what a person who's going like you have gone to to rehab right so I'm I don't know what you felt I would love to hear but I for me it was like right I mean I don't know about that sub it's the only way I know how to do it though I don't understand how people kind of phase out of stuff like you have to for me you have to draw the line and step over it and it's going to suck and you're going to be uncomfortable for a while while um but you know that on the other side of that lies all of this opportunity and possibility um but uh and that's what happened to me I think there was that because what I knew I knew that what I was and what if you do what you've always done you're going to get what you've always gotten is that simple and what I realized at that moment that what I what I created for myself was not what I wanted I needed to a drastic change and then he was like draw the line stopped everything in one day and the migraines and all of that like the consequences of what I had done I had to deal with them you know it took me like two weeks I think I was like having the worst migraines just because I didn't know if it was the nicotine the caffeine the alcohol I don't know what it was but it was all of it together and um but then it was amazing because from that experience I I became so much stronger and I and there are lots of different things that happen in my life after that I feel like every time we get tested it's like the Super Mario you know like the little video game when you go to do the big boss like you go through all the phases and you go to level one the big boss is like one it's okay to defeat that one but then the second one is like a tough for big boss and then the third one is you know it's like it's life I feel like that's what life is you get like the new tools so you get equipped and then you go to the next challenge that is a bigger one and then is a bigger one I feel like that's why we're here you know to keep seeing how we can expand how much more we can to grow to evolve to expand to see how strong and how creative and how you know how can how much we can experience of all this wonder how did you how did you plug that into the fast-paced life of of your modeling career because it's one thing if you're living a more kind of grounded atome lifestyle where you can control your food and your environment a little bit better but when you're flying all over the world and you're on these sets and there's craft service and it's junk food like you have to be way ahead of the curve to prepare everything to have everything kind of organized for yourself because how do you you if you're in just hotels all over the place and you arrive at midnight like how are you getting your you know like how did so how did you manage all of that you have to be very discipline I think you know when I I did this book called lessons and um and it was like everything starts to discipline that was like my first chapter and that's what I believe you have to decide you have and then you have to have the discipline to follow through so once you realize that these choices that you are making are having a positive impact in your life you want to continue doing them you know what I mean you don't want to fall back and just something that it didn't feel good that's your past like you don't want to go back there again so you're going to stick to the plan like this is what's working and this is what made me feel good again so I'm going to stick to this and of course it's not 100% you have to be compassionate with yourself too and say you I'll be like you know life is hard as it is you need to bit yourself in the head sometimes if you go and you oh you know I had like um I was exhausted I had like a banana bread or something or I had you know but I think you realize that the choices that you're making are are really either supporting you or not you know supporting you living the life that making you feel good and living the life that you want and is taking to the direction where you want to go or not and then it's just kind of an easier choice to make right and then I feel like when I go to the jobs you know I got to the point in my life where people know how I eat and you know I can tell people like listen this is what I want I want you got extensive riter yeah I kind of you know because I was already working for so long so I I have you know I got to the I guess really the privilege to be able to to kind of say like this is the kind of things that I would like to eat so please at the job you know if you're working 10 12 hours in a studio can we have these things available you know what I mean so then it was easier to keep the food healthy you know um because I think that's so important and then just to say I feel like and then saying no to those things you know like coffee or alcohol or things that I was just so used to because I was still in that same environment the environment hadn't changed I had changed but all of that was around me still but then it was just a choice of saying you know I feel great and I haven't drank alcohol in over two years now too this is something you know I even when I went back drinking after it was very moderate you know I was still like like I would drink socially sometimes you know peer pressure sometimes like oh come on have a drink you know and then you like feel like especially in my world I mean everyone pretty much is like socially having a drink so I would be like okay I'll have a drink but then he got to a point that I was like and that was like 20 years later because it just happened over two years ago I was like I don't want to drink like I don't care what anyone thinks and I don't care if they have Fe peer pressure I'm going to have my Min tea my cam tea and if they want to drink I'm not making anyone feel bad about drinking they can do whatever they want this is their Temple you know this is my temple I get to choose and they shouldn't make me feel bad that I don't want to you know so um then I kind of stood up for myself I think that happens after your 40s like you care less about what other people think and um wait till you're 50 oh my God I can't wait for that I'm gonna like he's he's gonna be amazing but I think the thing you mentioned you mentioned like being directed and and and being kind of dedicated to your path and and and I feel like that's the underappreciated aspect of of understanding you and your career a lot of people arrive in New York City every single day with a similar dream or ambition that you had when you were a young person and you arrived there and a lot of those people are very beautiful you're beautiful but that doesn't tell the story of how you translated like an opportunity into the career that you had and I think between the lines there is an intense work ethic and a very intentional approach to what you were doing like how did you apply those skills like what is the differentiator between you and the career that you've enjoyed versus you know the other beautiful people who aren't enjoying the same kind of career you can't and you're not allowed to say luck or you're you know no I don't believe I don't believe in luck I don't believe in luck I believe in hard work and but I believe in um I mean I think discipline but I also believe that I always treated everyone the way I like to be treated and I've always was appreciative I have this immense sense of gratitude for just being there so even though you know people were like oh you know you you know when I was 19 I was like I want the model of you know the model of the year and everybody's like how does it feel to be it didn't really it doesn't matter to me because quite frankly I never saw myself as a motel it's just not something I didn't drink the Kool-Aid I didn't believe because I was a model or because I I became successful in this job like I was better than anybody I just and I didn't believe that I believe that I just got to learn that craft really well and I understood what the job entail and like I learned how to do the job really well but by no means is what defined me it's just something I did it's not it's not who I am I don't know if you know it's like I go there I had this opportunity at you know 13 14 years old when I finally left home and and and and St pursued this career that really I thought it was just really I did it for the money I did it because I was like what else am I going to do at 14 years old that I can help my family you know I don't have any other jobs that are offering me an opportunity so I'll take this one so for me it was really like a job so I never like it didn't kind of Define me I kind of did it my way like I never became like you know it was like oh it needs to be glamorous I was never glamorous I'm a jeans and t-shirt type of girl like I if I needed to go to parties or hang out with this type of people I never did any of that like I went there I did my job I did the best that I could I never was late in my life for my jobs like never showed up like late I was there before everyone I was there 100% you know I I I just wanted to make sure that if people were booking me and they they were trusting in me that I was going to show up and deliver you know and I think that's kind of what it was I did it my way you know and it didn't broke me kind of Cu I saw you know people in this business you know you can lose yourself because if you drink the Kool-Aid if you start thinking you know like you lose yourself in it I never lost myself it was just a job and it's still just a job I can't even believe I'm still doing it sometimes I go in and I do it you it's not it's not what I do full- time anymore but it's just one of those things that you know I got to do this I got to make a career out of it and got to make a great living and help my family and I I have wonderful you know I got to travel the world and learn different languages and and and all of that and that's how I see it I don't see it as a you know I don't see myself you're not defined by it you're not you're not caught up in in the kind of dark underbelly of that very strange world this whole world is like almost like a parallel reality for me you know what I mean if something is like a switch on button I go there I do my job I take my picture I turn it off I go home and I have the same friends I have my my family I'm very close with my family but I think you're very good at seeing opportunities when they arise and you tell a little story in in in the new book about being 14 and on route to Tokyo and your parents gave you your dad gave you a little bit of money that was intended for getting a cab from that's the first day arve in s Paulo and instead of using that money oh it was you were super young right so you had a little bit of money to take a tab and you had the presence of mind to say this money would be better spent buying some clothes so I can do better in my auditions or whatnot um which isn't like that's not normal like that's somebody who's thinking ahead who's planning long term who's understanding that they have an opportunity in front of them and trying to figure out how to make the most out of it with limited resources and I think that speaks to or says a lot about your sensibility or your perspective as a business person yeah I mean it's so interesting to see it that way I mean I for me at that moment in time you know I I I just felt like I did something else than that you know that was one of the things and now that you're saying that I actually did that throughout because I bought my first apartment when I was 19 years old and when everybody was buying you know designer bags all the models and you know like remember I didn't know I was going to last in this business I thought like I didn't go to school I didn't go to high school I didn't you know I I left I I went to work and whenever I go I go back I thought I was going to be a farmer or something because I just always love the land and but I I didn't think like you know like where am I going to go from here so I have to make sure that I have at least a place to live I'm a cancer so I want to have like a stable home and when I was 19 you know people start flying me first class because I was like the model of the year right saw all the clients now are paying me first class I was exchanging those tickets for Coach classes because I was every two three days in a different country and instead of paying um my you know a rent in an apartment I pay I put down a down payment for an apartment and then I was paying my mortgage instead of paying rent and you're 19 and I was 19 so I I own my first apartment as 19 years old it was like a in in New York City it was like facing a wall of another building mind you he was like a very apartment you know that does require some maturity and some long-term thinking well well because I just thought to myself like you know I don't know how long I'm going to stay here you know I i' I at least I have to have a place to live if I like I'm not going to live empty-handed you know what I mean like what do I care about a bag or like what is that going to give me it's not going to be a roof over my head I need to make sure that I have that I can spend in the right places but I think that sense came from my mother because we grew up you know my mother was a cashier in the bank my father had like lots of different jobs like he had a real estate job but he was you know my mom they literally we we were like really simple people and grew up in two bedrooms with six girls and and and money was all always tight so I learned how to is the same thing in the book is like how do you prepare how do you not waste food I mean everything is like I think in my life I was kind of like raised that way you know what I mean kind of plan ahead like for tomorrow so you make sure that you have like food for everyone like like we're going to reuse the meat we cook on the barbecue and we're going to put it in the rice we're going to have carera so we're going to have an abundant meal because we have the rest of the you know what I mean it's kind of like that it's like you put money in the bank so when you retire you have something to to live off when you can no longer work the same thing I feel about food like you eat the right food so when you're older you you're able to have the energy and your body is functioning because you made the right choices so for me it's the same thing you know it's kind of making like just being kind of what is necessary here like do I really need this what do I need more do I need a roof over my head or do I need this this bags and this stuff do I need to take a taxi when I arrive to the model apartment when I'm 14 even though I never been to the city or can I take the subway and save the money so I can get the clothes for the casting and maybe I can get a job it's like it's kind of thinking like with the resources that I have right now what is the smartest how is the smartest way to use them I guess if you're like me never without a water bottle let's get it right people allow me to rock your world with my new favorite toy that's actually not a toy at all it's a non-negotiable essential camel backs Podium steel 100% % leak proof water bottle emphasis on leak proof for all 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it's you know what it is it's a character I always call call it her because I think being a MTO what I understood as being a motto is to play a character in a silent movie you know you get to experience all these different charact all these different aspects of of of being a woman let's say because one designer wants you to be more androgynous you know one designer was you know I remember diding a Balin Saga campaign I was like they made me a boy I was like literally like a week I was like a man a boy and in one I was like the sexy Versace campaign like you know like with big hair and like you know pushup bra you know so it was kind of like I got to play from the the androgynous girl to the very sexy to the tomb boy like I got to you know I mean you should see I don't know if you ever saw my book the other one that was like the 20 years I did a 20 well I watched the video that you did where you kind of went through it and you were talking about what was going on with you with each of those photographs yeah so it's it's it's it's really about kind of playing these different roles but it's just instead of you talking like you would be in a movie you're just you got to make the image that picture that one capture image to to it's a performance art it's a performance art but it's such a weird world I know that like Alexander McQueen he was like he was really the Catalyst right he was the guy who gave me the chance you know he gave me the the chance but when you watch his shows or some of these other shows like the designs are are stunning and gorgeous but they're also totally inaccessible it's like who wears this does anybody is there anybody in the world that even wear I mean if you're Lady Gaga I guess or somebody like that but like yeah it's a fantasy and so it's curious like how does that translate into I guess it's just how you feel and how you think about a particular designer or a brand and not so much about directly selling those designs to the person who's going to the department store or the boutique right yeah they're not thinking I don't even understand the business model of the whole thing yeah I me neither to be honest with you but I think it's a really I mean I think it has changed a lot uh since I started like I see a big shift because I think before there was a lot more creativity there was allowed a lot more creativity I think you know McQueen or JN galano you know the shows and stuff like you were like in a world like sure and the photographers being rock stars themselves oh yeah and and it was a I think it was a moment in time where there was so much less about selling but it was much more about the the inspiration and the aspir aspiring you know the aspiration of creating like a fantasy and like a and it was a lot of fun then I have to say at that time because I would have been dead I wouldn't have survived it I would have gone all in I would have been at every after hours party it would have been a disaster you see I was in bed like studying my astrology books like by 10 you know that was me I was like by 10 I was like oh no I have to go I was like I have to start early so I can go to bed early so for me it was a a different thing but um you know but I guess for me I also fell very responsible because I didn't want to one of the The Guiding lights for me I really believe was my parents because I saw how hard they work and I didn't want to disappoint them so I think part of like me being so stay on the line was like I'm not disappointing my parents I don't care if they're not here they are going to know what I'm doing like I remember part of the reason why I got so freaked out about the McQueen show and they sent me out like without a top because I couldn't speak English and they didn't even do a feeding anyway so then I was I was like oh my God if my parents see this they're GNA make me go back home and then I you know what is it like when you go internet but there was no internet in 1997 19 it wasn't so thank God because they didn't even saw that otherwi they would have been like what what are you doing I be like I don't know and you have five siblings right I have five sisters I'm a middle child I have two older sisters and two younger sisters and I'm a twin MH in the middle so we like the the sandwich like the cheese in the sandwich being Brazilian uh you're connected to the Amazon and to climate change issues and you've done a lot in terms of your environmental advocacy and clean water initiatives talk a little bit about how that began and and what that looked like now you know I um I've always been a big um basically like a child of nature I always tell my children when they ask you know what's your religion they say Mom we don't go to church I say you know what you're in church every day I say I say what do I say when people ask what my what my religion is I say love is your religion and nature is your church that's your Cathedral that's the big church that's our Temple you know so you honor your temple you love your temple you CU that's the only reason why we are all alive because this whole ecosystem is making it possible you know to grow our food to give us to provide us with all the things we need to survive so U and that's how I grew up I felt that way and especially having a grandmother that everything was from the earth you know she grew everything she ate and and uh you know the Earth was giving us the herbs that we needed to like when we fell ill and and I grew up in that way so when you grew up in that way and you grew up running around bare feet you know I come from a small village and anytime you want to eat something you grab there was like a tangerine tree or like a orange tree or is a plum tree and you just go and pick up the fruit from the tree we never bought fruits from the supermarket you know you go either you had it in your backyard or your neighbor had it or the other neighbor you know somebody had the fruit he wanted to eat you just go grab it so I think when you leave with that connection to Nature you have a different appreciation it's like so I feel like nature is just like it's it's it's me like I think we are n you know we are that and I think this connection from nature for me is not something it's just something I've always known you know is how I grew up and so for me um taking care of which I love which is nature is natural um so the but the first time I realized there was really problems happening is when I went to actually spend some time uh with the indigenous people in shingu area of the Amazon in the 2004 and that's when the first time I realized you know pesticide what's what pesticides were doing where mining was doing how they were contaminating the rivers and basically all the indigenous tribes they were living and depending on the that water they were getting sick and even though they were living very wholesomely you know with nature and you know by the impact that the big farms and different Mining and all that stuff was having um was really um having a really terrible impact in their in their their livelihoods and and that's when the first time I was like I need to do something about it and that's when I started like I had a flipflop line at the time in Brazil and we gave a percentage you know to that's actually a funny story the the the indigenous people and I was like I wonder what they would do with this with this funds but it was like a group that helped indigenous in Brazil and the funny enough when I did when I turned 40 this was in 2004 so I was like 24 cut to when I'm 40 2020 I was 40 um I wanted to do something for my 40th birthday and I was like oh I want to plant some trees in the in in the Amazon and how we going to do it so we looked around for who can help us do that and we contacted the the people that are working with the indigenous people that we knew in in Brazil and they're like we have the largest seed bank in the Amazon and we started with the money with the whole program that you gave in 2004 that money that was for the sale of the flipflops now years later they had the largest seed bank of you know the indigenous they they they collected the larger seed bank and this is how with that whole group of people we basically planted over 300,000 trees in that area of the Amazon so that was like years later so that's just how funny how life goes but for me because I was so connected to nature and I always wanted to help and my dad always said you know water is the most important thing and of course I saw that with the indigenous people because that's how they were all getting sick because all the the you know residue of Mining and and and pesticides were going into their water in my little village we were having a lot of problems with agriculture as well where there was a lot of runoffs from Roundup and all the stuff that they use in agriculture all the pesticides and stuff and it was getting a lot of people sick so we actually did the AGA limpa program in 200 I think it was 20 the N or I don't remember when we started but it was like a long time ago and I funded it and my dad who's also a sociologist worked with the university and we and we basically regenerated the whole area of the river that was kind of you know getting the water to the city and we were able to clean it it took us like a few years to do it you know it was pretty simple because all we had to do I mean it was not simple my dad is the one who did the work it was simpler for me I just kind of funded it but he was there every day he had to work with I don't know how many farmers you had to take their pie of land and kind of grow the native species Forest you know the native Forest back so then the there's a buffer there was a buffer and then the root systems could could filtrate it before all that stuff would go into the river and then that was the agal limpa project and that was one of the projects we did to clean the water and anyway so there's lots of different things but in overall thing my my thing is you know we got to take care of Mother Earth she takes care of us you know when people say to me oh we're going to save the planet I say you're that's such an ego thing you know as humans we think we're going to save anything the planets is in her own process of evolution this is a you know it's I mean dinosaurs were here before us and you know lur I mean so many different civilizations the planet will be fine that's what I always say I say please don't fool yourself I think we really saving ourselves we need to yeah I say there's no Sav we need re ourselves back yeah this is really about us protecting the resources and and taking care of what we really need for our survival because once we are gone the planet is going to regenerate I mean I've seen this over and over again the planet regenerates itself so quickly you know because it's it's just a very intelligent we need to learn from nature instead of like trying to control nature we need to just like take a humble pill and and learn from the Big Mama we've moved so far away from that and we do live in this dualistic mindset where we think there's you know our environments and then there's nature or there's us and that's outside um but really understanding that you're never out of nature as you as you said um I think it's the first point of trying to really deepen your relationship with the world in which you live we all live and share and I think when it comes to the Amazon like we all hear about deforestation and all the you know clearing that's going on for cattle grazing and the strip mining and all the stuff that you mentioned but it's an abstraction especially for you know people in North America like we know what's going on we know it's bad but I've never visited there like I've never seen it myself and you being Brazilian gives you kind of a deeper appreciation and understanding of the extent of it you know I think it's how people tell the story because I think it's a lot deeper than you know I think people like depending on the industry that wants to benefit from something that tell the story and they say okay this is what we're going to do is about the cing oh yeah it's so crazy a lot of NOS go in there and they say we're going to have an NGO because we're going to like protect Amazon but they're meantime they're the owners of the bigger paper company that comes from the Amazon they are just not you know what I mean so there it's not not all is as it seems no it's it's a very it's a wild wild west there and one of the biggest you know I've been there a few times and also done a lot of um just kind of like talking to people and understanding what happens there and a lot of the you know there's ancient Woods there and a lot of that goes to Europe so like what a lot of the the cattle for example is what they use to kind of occupy the land but what they're really after which is really valuable there is like gold and Min m you know the the rare medals the rare medals yeah the rare medals and the gold and all that stuff that's in there that's what interest this like you know the different um countries let's say they are not brail when they and because it's so corrupt unfortunately you know Brazil is very corrupt the politicians are very corrupt what happens is they sell those rights to those countries and then we have what we have and then the cattle like in the end they just kind of put them there because they have to occupy the land after they REM because they have to enter if you go there after they removed everything because they have to remove the value the value then they then they put all the cows there that's what they do so they remove the ancient wood they they remove the precious metals and and but they have to get there because if you fly over it it mean you're flying for hours over just a Green carpet so for you to have access to that you have to you can't just like clear cut because it grows so what they do to keep the the the forest from growing they just throw because it's very fertile the soil as soon as you cut because imagine that soil is been there like receiving all those back healthy bacteria from the leaves falling super fertile So within like three days you can Grass Grows Right and then in order for the trees not to keep growing because if you just leave abandon that's what's going to happen the birds are going to carry the seeds they're going to drop the seeds they're going to things are going to start growing again and then they won't have access you know so they kind of it's just like a cycle like but what is really after what they're really after it is the big stuff is the is the and and it's not unfortunately you know it's h it's so sad you know is greed mhm in the end of the day is greed and is greed by people that you know they don't have those natural resources where they are and and they understand the situation in Brazil and how corrupt the this the the 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their best interest from a wellness perspective I think the number one thing I feel is like monkey see monkey does right I think you have to be the example you have to leave it um cuz I think whatever you say is one thing and whatever you do you they need to kind they need to whatever you say whatever you do they have to be the same thing right sympatico yeah they have to be sympatico and um and that's what it is and and I think for the kids for my kids were were a lot easier because I was home a lot with them so I was you know taking them to school every day making their breakfast you know just having my Gardens at home growing the food so when the kids would come for play dates at the house you know my kids were grabbing like everything raw cucumbers carrots like green beans they were just grabbing it from the garden and like collecting things and putting in the basket it was like a game for them and it was like oh friends are coming over why are we going to grab for the for to Door picnic outside and then so they grew up in that way you know they they uh so it was easier for me to feed them healthier food and and and and explain to them you know we always compost it we had bees at our house um so you know they they were learning about you know when The Beekeeper would come and they explain you know how much be how much honey can you take and how much money how much honey do you leave for the bees and how does a the how does a queen bee work and all the so they were they're emotionally connected they were emotionally connected they were part of that like I was as a kid so um so for them is really natural and they were also homeschooled for the last three years um during the you know the whole pandemic thing I and we moved from Boston to Tampa so um it was a whole new world for them so I I homeschooled them and now they just went back to school but I have to tell you I see a huge difference especially because my son is 14 now so he wants to kind of push back this is what I'm getting at oh yeah well how old kid well they range from 28 to 16 and each one of there's four and each of them is different um but it's a delicate dance because you know we raised our kids similarly um but they reach a certain age and part of individuation and maturing is taking ownership for your own choices and understanding what you stand for and what you don't and in order to really Define that and hone that you have to go out and kind of push the envelope and try new things otherwise it's just something you're doing because that's the way you were raised and that's what your parents told you as opposed to really owning it for yourself and so so we have learned that you have to have the brains very loose and and let them go out and do what they want to do and control the environment at home but be you know very kind of nonplused if they go and make a choice that you wouldn't make or whatever and just be curious about it and allow them the space to do that and you know you hope they come back and you know do it the way you taught them to um and sometimes they do and sometimes they don't and again every one of them is different in our case but as they get to a certain point and especially you know when they're with peers and friends and they're in social situations those things they have to learn for themselves and you have to allow them to I think it's so interesting so you have to let go a little bit oh let go and let God yeah I tell myself that is like a mantra you know and and and I I I remind myself of like my mom let me leave home she emancipated me and I was leing in Japan at 14 and there was no cell phones like I call you know can you imagine doing that for one of your children right now no and actually you know what it's so funny because I was having a conversation with my son about that he um he was complaining you know I have chores in my house you know kids have to do their chores so set the table wash the dishes you know now I make a point you know I cook at you know they come from school I'm cooking you know they so one has to set the table whoever sets the table the other has to wash the dishes and there is like you have to clean your room you have to do the basic stuff you know my daughter is doing amazingly she loves it and she's like really good and very proud of herself mom look how good I cleaned the dishes like she's really good and she's washing herself she's not putting it in the machine she wants to learn how to really wash it and and and do it right and she's very focused on it my son is like always like why do I have to do this you know so actually we had like a breakthrough this Christmas this this whole holiday season because I said he says to me I'm going to leave home when I'm 18 mom and I don't know if I'm going to go to college you didn't go to college you didn't go to school I'm going to just leave home when I'm 18 and I'm going to do this and I'm going to do that I'm like okay that's great so you're going to leave in your own apartment and who's going to cook for you and who's going to wash your dishes and who's going to clean your clothes who's going to do that and he's like for a second he's like because you're not going to have a chef and like a you know like and he was thinking for a second and I say well this is why when mommy tells you to do those things at home you know is because I want to give you more tools for your tool boox because when you learn how to do those things and they become second nature to you then you don't even have to think about it you become empowered to do it for yourself you don't depend on anybody and that's nothing it's amazing to be able to do that I said you know what made me feel so like strong and capable when I left my home because my mom taught me how to do those things so when I left home and I was leaving by myself at 14 years old I was first at 13 at 14 I moved to Japan but because I was leaving in the mod's apartment I was the only person there who knew how to clean cook iron do absolutely everything in the house because my mom taught me and it was easy for me I didn't think it was a struggle I was happy to do it and I was happy to to do it for the other girls that didn't know how to do it but if you're going to be planning on leaving on your own at 18 who do you think is going to do all those things for you so all I'm telling you is like take advantage that mommy's here for you right now and I'm able to teach you all those things and you can do it at your time I'm not telling you like at this time you have to wash the dishes so let me just help you I'm going to create a list for you and you just have to do them and you can decide if you want to wash clothes once or twice a week you can decide if you want to wash the dishes right after dinner or before you go to bed whatever you want but if you learn how to do those things you're going to see how empowered you're going to feel and the more tools we can put like the more things like the simple things like that that you can learn and that you can equip your tool box to do you're just going to be just that much like capable and and and there's nothing more fulfilling than feeling like you're able to do stuff that you're capable and then he looked at me and he's like okay mom so when we get back home you give me that list and I'm going to do it I'm like I wow I was going to say like he actually he actually receiv that I I think I have a breakthrough I think I got a breakthrough with the hormones are raging like whatever mom you know storming off like you can get you can get that reaction too that was good good job don't you think that was a good thing but but I used but you see it was a moment that I used what he said because when he thought to himself that's true how am I going to do all that stuff I said you don't want to live in like a you know a messy stinky place that is not clean like you know you want to like have you know so you need to know how to do this stuff and I think all I I see like all the things that happen in life like that like different tools we acquire you know even the job that I you know my job like all the tools that I've acquired in this job all the things that I've learned to do um that I don't know when I'm going to use I use them for my job but maybe I'm going to they going to be useful like in 20 years from my life sure but you came from very different circumstances it's the it's the Peril of success right like you and and the kid's dad like worked very hard to achieve all of these things in life and now they're reared in you know like an insane degree of privilege and it becomes more difficult to instill that kind of work ethic into somebody who you know grows up that way I think you're correct I think it becomes a lot more difficult but I think goes back to the discipline and it goes back to priorities and I think it for me it becomes about what kind of you know I I feel like I'm their Guardian because we don't possess our children right I mean we just come here they come through us but they're as much as our teachers as we are they're teachers and we're constantly learning and teaching you know in every relationship in our life and and I feel that we get this moment in time which is very short in a way that we get to influence our children because then they go I mean look at my parents they had 14 years to influence me then I was out in the world and I never went back and I keep remembering like what are all the things that if they wouldn't have taught me those things where would I be today and I'm so grateful for them for for those lessons and I feel like yes I grew up in very different circumstances than my kids and it is a bit more challenging to have them you know make their bed and wash the dishes and clean their you know when I have a person that can do it too but I make a point of me doing it so then they learn that oh Mommy's doing the dinner Mommy is making the breakfast mommy is so they're like weel you have to model and I feel like it's a different kind of modeling is it is the type of modeling that I prefer it's it's the type of modeling that I find to be the important type of modeling because that's the you know I mean what's Mo the most important thing you're going to do in your life I feel like raising children is is by far the most challenging thing I've ever done and the most uh fulfilling at the same time and you know but I feel that if if I if I don't do that if I don't equip my children to be good capable assets you know for themselves in their lives if they're not going to be then I fail I I feel yeah you haven't done your job then I haven't done my job I mean I feel that's my job I mean that's a job I do to kind of make a living so I can like you know put foot on the table and have but my real job as as I think as a as a mom and I chose to be a mom so I have to show up for my kids and I feel like this things that my you know I think is really what shaped me and what made me who I am today was definitely the upbringing that I had and and what my parents how they guided me and I feel like that's really important so I make that a priority in my life to make sure that my kids are going to have even though they don't have those same needs you know to do those things because my mom didn't have a a person she could pay to come clean the house we had to you clean the bathroom you clean the you know it was like a list all of us have to share between us who's going to do what and we grew up that way and it was kind of fun because you know I was always I always love the cleaning part you know I love organizing and cleaning I feel like a clean house is a clean mind is like a what's out is in you know if like if everything is organized outside I can think um and I tell my kids that and I feel that um if I can really get them to do those simple things in life you know and and learn those things and teach them how to be self-sufficient and capable human beings I feel like I've done my job and then I can rest and then whatever else they do the choices they make if they choose to eat the food that I fed them when they were little if now they want to go eat you know whatever or I mean it's going to be what they're going to do you know they're going to choose their friends hopefully they they choose wisely because in the end of the day they're going to be the one dealing with the consequences of their actions and I always tell them like listen you know you're going to go out there and you're going to make the Cho whatever choice you make there are going to be consequences you're dealing with those consequences me this is your life and sometimes they need to they need to make those mistakes and face those consequences like we had I mean how many mistakes that I mean I have and those those experiences are formative like I'm sure if you look in the rear view mirror and think about the panic attacks that you were having on airplanes and your inability to get into an elevator and you know this desire to jump off your balcony on some level you wouldn't wish that experience on anybody but you probably wouldn't wna change your experience either because it's set in motion this whole sensibility and way of being that you now have and I think with kids they regardless of whether they hear you in the moment or whether they go out into the world and make a bunch of mistakes like they come back yeah and whatever you taught them it's in there and at some point when they're ready or whatever like they return to it and you know and and I think to to trust that it's very important and I also feel like because if you try to overly control it you're going to drive them away absolutely and and you know I think for me I keep going back to me as a kid and the trust my parents had in me to let me go and I wouldn't be who I am today if it wasn't for them trusting in me and for all the mistakes that I've made and then had to come the other side and figure out for myself so I think it's important to give our children the Dignity of Their Own process you know because we had a dignity you know we have to go through our own process to become who we are and I think as long as they know that we are there and what what is our values you know is like those things that are important what is what is that we stand for what's important for us you know as as as as a as a value as a core value as as as a being a good human being and a good person and if you thought that your children and and they and they got it in the end of the day they're going to go out there in the world and they're going to have to make their mistakes and I I think the best thing you can do for them it's is just be there for them whenever they they come back and if they want your help you know and I think it's it's hard because you want to protect them like you can put Bobble wrap on them so like nothing will touch them and they will be safe but in the end of the day that's unrealistic and it's like it doesn't work anyway you know what I like this idea you know there's a metaphor of the butterfly imagine the caterpillar as she's transforming into becoming the butterfly she's you know eating eating all the you know until she finally starts spinning into a cocoon and and then she has to like go through that whole stous process if you ever seen like you know they turn into GP yeah but they're like but it's exactly it's just and it's really kind of like hard to like when they're coming out it's like really awkward and it looks like they're very strenuous and very difficult so if you go in there and you try to help them come out you're going to them you're going to the butterfly and she won't be able to have the strength she needs struggle is the struggle is what crucial to the the growth and you have to give them the Dignity of their own process you have to be and I and I keep reminding myself I cannot take away that opportunity for them because my parents gave me the opportunity for me to go through my own challenges and I grew and and I want my kids to have that same opportunity because whoever they're going to become is going to be based on what their choice is and hopefully I gave them enough good examples and and and good um values where they would make the choices that is right for them you know what is it that you want people to understand or take away from the new book and and how you are modeling this lifestyle um whether it's dietary changes Lifestyle Changes uh movement practices how can somebody who is interested in kind of leveling up across the board begin the process of of making those changes in their life you know it's funny you know because when I decided to do a cookbook I'm the farthest thing there is from a chef let me tell you something I I am not a chef let me just like let's be honest you've got a private Chef in home that person is taking care of everything not anymore I used to you don't anymore no I don't I don't it's no the last two years I don't you're cooking your own meals yes I'm cooking my own meals yeah I I grew up there way and I want like I told you like my priority is showing my kids what I believe it's important for them and and and I can't I can't say oh this is important and then I have and I'm not doing it you know what I mean so it has to be cohesive right and and I think that for me um really being like living what I believe is very important and I was showing my kids that this is important to me like the only way I'm going to show them that is by doing that so yes I had chefs and this is how I learn how to cook a lot of the things a lot of the recipes in the book are like inspired by the things that I created with the chefs that I throughout the years I had the opportunity to you know to really work with Incredible people incredible Chef people that love food as much as I do because I love food um but was really an idea for me to look I can say go and meditate go and exercise you know I believe meditation I believe rest I believe um exercise I believe nutrition all of those things are extremely important for you to be able to take kind of ownership of your health and really take care of yourself and have and work on just having a more clear mind and just feeling more connected to yourself I think all of those things are different aspects of it but the reason about the cookbook is quite frankly I was seeing kids were coming to our house and in play dates and and moms will come and be like how did you get my kid to eat broccoli or roasted vegetables or and it was like so simple and I was like oh maybe we can share how to make some simple recipes that are super easy you can make it like in 10 minutes and you know moms some you know you just sometimes feel overwhelmed and I know because life is busy there's so so much going on so I was like how can I help in this way and also I feel like food is a perfect time for you to practice being present and mindful because you can eat like on a rush and not being present and the food have a one effect in your body or you can do something which is what I talk about in the book is like every time I look at my food not only the act of preparing your food there so much loves and you're touching the food and you're connecting with your food that's one thing but even if you're not the one cooking your food just to take a moment to bless your food to acknowledge that that is something that is alive that you're taking it and you're that's also your source of life you know so it's kind of like connecting to the food in that way I think it it does something because everything is energy so you're having a transfer of energy with something and with the intention that you're eating it has a different I I feel huge you know when I start doing that does make a difference how he has a different just being present and being connected to what you're doing having gratitude for that moment and you get to do that three times a day you know I mean now I have a juice once a day but I still blast my juice but it's just kind of like it's just this book what I would like to to to for people to take is like it can be really simple it doesn't have to be complicated to to eat healthy and really like if you have plans you know my mom taught me you know since I was a kid like no food waste so how can we organize our meals so can there's a big thing about like reducing waste yeah there for me that's huge and also like me planning like if you're going to buy because or you know food sourcing that's huge it's not about having something with a lot of condiments and a lot of stuff it's just like keep it simple but buying really great quality products like if you can do that and then instead of like because a lot of people are like oh and then you buy organic and then you throw it out because it's like you know it spoils much faster and I'm like yeah but if you have a meal planning and I and I teach that I kind of give some suggestions in the book like my mom did that I grew up like that because she didn't have time you know she was working all the time so she had like in the fridge like what we going to have for the whole week so she would go to the groceries and she would buy and then the things were allowed to the next day so you would always know what we were eating and things that wouldn't be eaten could be easily transferred for the next day and be made into the next organiz so that nothing spoils and you're so nothing spoils and you never had food waste because you're always taking it from one day to the next so is never wasting you always	kind of nonplused if they go and make a choice that you wouldn't make or whatever and just be curious about it and allow them the space to do that and you know you hope they come back and you know do it the way you taught them to um and sometimes they do and sometimes they don't and again every one of them is different in our case but as they get to a certain point and especially you know when they're with peers and friends and they're in social situations those things they have to learn for themselves and you have to allow them to I think it's so interesting so you have to let go a little bit oh let go and let God yeah I tell myself that is like a mantra you know and and and I I I remind myself of like my mom let me leave home she emancipated me and I was leing in Japan at 14 and there was no cell phones like I call you know can you imagine doing that for one of your children right now no and actually you know what it's so funny because I was having a conversation with my son about that he um he was complaining you know I have chores in my house you know kids have to do their chores so set the table wash the dishes you know now I make a point you know I cook at you know	7	4	5	kind of nonplused if they go and make a choice that you wouldn't make or whatever and just be curious about it and allow them the space to do that and you know you hope they come back and you know do it the way you taught them to um and sometimes they do and sometimes they don't and again every one of them is different in our case but as they get to a certain point and especially you know when they're with peers and friends and they're in social situations those things they have to learn for themselves and you have to allow them to I think it's so interesting so you have to let go a little bit oh let go and let God yeah I tell myself that is like a mantra you know and and and I I I remind myself of like my mom let me leave home she emancipated me and I was leing in Japan at 14 and there was no cell phones like I call you know can you imagine doing that for one of your children right now no and actually you know what it's so funny because I was having a conversation with my son about that	he um he was complaining you know I have chores in my house you know kids have to do their chores so set the 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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjK5ahIgsHA	4,193	rjK5ahIgsHA	2024-03-25 00:00:00	the choices that you're making are really either supporting you or not straight from the pages of Victoria Secret please welcome jaelle bunin gazelle bunin gazelle has walked in nearly 500 fashion shows and great the covers of more than 1,200 different magazines on paper like you're perhaps highly unrelatable you know what it is it's a character that's the job I do to kind of make a living so I can like you know put foot on the table raising children is is by far the most challenging thing I've ever done it's a different kind of modeling is the type of modeling that I prefer food is a perfect time for you to practice being present and mindful because it can be really simple it doesn't have to be complicated to eat healthy nature is just like it's me instead of like trying to control nature we need to just like take a humble pill and and learn from the Big Mama [Music] today's episode is brought to you by the awesome organizations that make this show [Music] possible so nice to meet you nice to meet you too so excited to have you here today yes when this opportunity presented itself I was like of course I want to talk to Jazelle and then I had my own like sort of mini panic attack we're going to get into panic attacks I'm like what could I possibly talk to this person about the alltime great super model of all time everybody knows this on paper like you're perhaps highly unrelatable but then the more you dig into your story and the more I kind of learned about your Arc and your past and what brought you to this place there's so much that's deeply relatable and your kind of transformation story is remarkably similar to mine although you did yours at like 23 I was 40 um but there's so much in there so I thought it would be cool to kind of um talk a little bit about what it was like what happened and how you made these changes in your life because I think you're in this interesting new season right now where despite the fact that you've been this Wellness Advocate and wellness Warrior for a long time my sense is that there's a there's a more full Embrace of of that now with kind of how you see yourself and what's important to you a well thank you for the introduction you know the funny thing is I you know people's you know what I did for a living is something that kind of just happened to me at 14 years old you know it was it was like hey do you want to be a model and I thought oh I can help my family you know I can do make a living and and help you know I have five sisters and and all that so modeling to me is something that is um an opportunity that came along like I think in life you have these opportunities that either you take that train and then see where it goes you know and I never even believed that this was going to take me and I was going to be doing this for almost 30 years you know it's it's one of those things that I was like oh I'll start doing this job and you know send money home and help my sisters go through school and do all that and um and maybe in five years you know I'll get a house because I didn't even go to school you know I I I was emancipated at 14 yeah you were in Tokyo at 14 I was living in Japan without speaking English and J or Japanese and that's when I when I start learning the language of of of energy you know what I mean because you don't have to understand the language you just have to feel you know something there's a lot more that has been said without words you know sure so I start learning about that um but I think that I went through this journey of modeling which was something I thought was going to last five years and I was just going to help my family out for a little bit and it just kept going you know it just kept happening you know I I didn't even think you can have longevity in this career because it's not what I what I saw really around me happening um but you know I kept it kept working out so I kept doing it and it was kind of a Mindless thing you know when you got in the hamster wheel and I think we do that sometimes in life and you're so young you don't know and you Liv the fast life and all of that so in my early 20s I um developed you know anxiety and panic attacks and all that because you know when you drink a bottle of wine and that because you like I used to be a smoker so I smoke I can't even imagine I used to smoke it feels like a whole different life you know but um it was the late 90s and there was a lot of um drugs and fashion and all that so I thought I was saying just because I was like having some wine and smoking cigarettes everybody was doing way worse things than yeah I'm sure you've seen a lot I've seen a lot yeah that's a whole other show about that that's a whole other story but yeah so um you know so that was the beginning for me to start reconnecting with myself because I think when I was 14 and I got that train my only focus was like how can I be the best that I can do on this and and and that was my focus and and I didn't meure any sacrifice he was like if I had to work 360 days a year and I felt like I couldn't say no because people were giving me a chance and then I was like in this really overdrive uh and burn down my adrenals I found out later when I found this amazing natural Doctor Who told me like listen you don't have any more adrenal they're shut down because you burn them basically I'm like but I'm only 22 you know so um basically I had to change the habits that I you know smoking a pack of cigarettes drinking alcohol every day to myself down coffee all day to keep myself up and also going from you know one time zone to the next I was three days in Paris two days in London one day in New York going back to you know my life was in a living in a suitcase and of course your nervous system is going to freak out you know and the way I was eating it was very you know anything that was in front of me I was just like not mindful about anything you know I was just kind of um like a Workhorse and when that happen to me is when I you know I come from a family that is very my my grandmother had a tea for everything so we never had we were not the kind of you know you get sick let me see this herbal remedy that we you know so yeah you grew up in kind of a small village right in Brazil your grandmother was cultivating herbs and she was the person that everyone would go to for their remedy so you have this sort of background and connection you know with the Earth exactly that you know is kind of lingering in the back of your mind when you're just you know hammering nails and and you know drinking wine and living that life but you're young it's like that's kind of what your 20s are for kind of and you're you're on this like Jet Plane I mean figuratively and literally like your career's taking off on top of that a people pleasing tendency where you feel like you have to say yes to everything and you're just go go go go go yeah and and I think but that was a big wakeup call for me because I think sometimes you know you have to reach rock bottom and when I had that those anxiety and they start becoming like almost CRI because I couldn't get on planes he was just you know I was going to all these doctors and they were like you have to take this stuff and I was just afraid of taking anything because I've never taken anything you know I was a there was a t for for this there you know my grandmother wasn't there so finally you know I wasn't going to take any medication because just the idea of taking something I was like I was normal before how can I go back being what I was you know like I I I didn't have these issues so what's happening long story short I found this doctor I had to replace my habits it was that simple I had to replace these habits that had created the reality I was living at that moment which was you know um really killing me in in so many ways you know killing my spirit killing my and and I replace it with good habits so now instead of smoking cigarettes and having a mocha frappuccino in the morning I'll would go out and do breath work and go out for a run and you know I replace in one day I gave up everything because he he looked at me he said jelle he called me Adrenalina he says do you want to live and I said I do he's like so we going to CH change my diet and that's for the first time in my life that I realized that I I was really like the one who got myself there and I was the only person who could get myself out by the choices that I was making so I had to take full responsibility for what I had created but it was in my power only in my power to change that there were no doctors nobody who was going to save me I had to change um you know the choices I was making and I and I did that and it was incredible because after over a year and a half like really struggling with anxiety and panic attacks and all that within 3 months I was like I never had another incident and it was you know and and once you start meditating I mean at that point this was 20 years ago right it wasn't like people were talking about meditation and yoga any other that um it was just um you know when you sit in silence and you and you reflect which is what we don't really give ourselves time to do because the world is so fastpaced and everything is catching your attention is trying to throw you off your Center you know everything is so busy it's like an overload of information to have that space to go inside and reflect and look and really take a step back I think that was the biggest blessing of my life so really I think what could have killed me is what gave me a whole new life and it was amazing because since then like everything changed like I realized that food is my medicine I realized that I am the director of my own movie that I'm creating my reality based on the choices that I'm making but what I'm choosing to not the people I'm choosing to have around in my life but what type of energy what kind of thoughts I allow to what am I feeding you know what kind of thoughts am I so all of that so that became like a big um changing of seasons for me in my early 20s what were those first couple weeks like if you went completely cold turkey on all of these bad habits I think it was like a drug addict I never was a I guess I was a drug etic only legal drugs because I guess alcohol is a drug and so is cigarettes nicotine and all that and caffeine and all that but they're like socially accepted but I tell you that I had the worst migraine I mean I felt like the I mean maybe that's what a person who's going like you have gone to to rehab right so I'm I don't know what you felt I would love to hear but I for me it was like right I mean I don't know about that sub it's the only way I know how to do it though I don't understand how people kind of phase out of stuff like you have to for me you have to draw the line and step over it and it's going to suck and you're going to be uncomfortable for a while while um but you know that on the other side of that lies all of this opportunity and possibility um but uh and that's what happened to me I think there was that because what I knew I knew that what I was and what if you do what you've always done you're going to get what you've always gotten is that simple and what I realized at that moment that what I what I created for myself was not what I wanted I needed to a drastic change and then he was like draw the line stopped everything in one day and the migraines and all of that like the consequences of what I had done I had to deal with them you know it took me like two weeks I think I was like having the worst migraines just because I didn't know if it was the nicotine the caffeine the alcohol I don't know what it was but it was all of it together and um but then it was amazing because from that experience I I became so much stronger and I and there are lots of different things that happen in my life after that I feel like every time we get tested it's like the Super Mario you know like the little video game when you go to do the big boss like you go through all the phases and you go to level one the big boss is like one it's okay to defeat that one but then the second one is like a tough for big boss and then the third one is you know it's like it's life I feel like that's what life is you get like the new tools so you get equipped and then you go to the next challenge that is a bigger one and then is a bigger one I feel like that's why we're here you know to keep seeing how we can expand how much more we can to grow to evolve to expand to see how strong and how creative and how you know how can how much we can experience of all this wonder how did you how did you plug that into the fast-paced life of of your modeling career because it's one thing if you're living a more kind of grounded atome lifestyle where you can control your food and your environment a little bit better but when you're flying all over the world and you're on these sets and there's craft service and it's junk food like you have to be way ahead of the curve to prepare everything to have everything kind of organized for yourself because how do you you if you're in just hotels all over the place and you arrive at midnight like how are you getting your you know like how did so how did you manage all of that you have to be very discipline I think you know when I I did this book called lessons and um and it was like everything starts to discipline that was like my first chapter and that's what I believe you have to decide you have and then you have to have the discipline to follow through so once you realize that these choices that you are making are having a positive impact in your life you want to continue doing them you know what I mean you don't want to fall back and just something that it didn't feel good that's your past like you don't want to go back there again so you're going to stick to the plan like this is what's working and this is what made me feel good again so I'm going to stick to this and of course it's not 100% you have to be compassionate with yourself too and say you I'll be like you know life is hard as it is you need to bit yourself in the head sometimes if you go and you oh you know I had like um I was exhausted I had like a banana bread or something or I had you know but I think you realize that the choices that you're making are are really either supporting you or not you know supporting you living the life that making you feel good and living the life that you want and is taking to the direction where you want to go or not and then it's just kind of an easier choice to make right and then I feel like when I go to the jobs you know I got to the point in my life where people know how I eat and you know I can tell people like listen this is what I want I want you got extensive riter yeah I kind of you know because I was already working for so long so I I have you know I got to the I guess really the privilege to be able to to kind of say like this is the kind of things that I would like to eat so please at the job you know if you're working 10 12 hours in a studio can we have these things available you know what I mean so then it was easier to keep the food healthy you know um because I think that's so important and then just to say I feel like and then saying no to those things you know like coffee or alcohol or things that I was just so used to because I was still in that same environment the environment hadn't changed I had changed but all of that was around me still but then it was just a choice of saying you know I feel great and I haven't drank alcohol in over two years now too this is something you know I even when I went back drinking after it was very moderate you know I was still like like I would drink socially sometimes you know peer pressure sometimes like oh come on have a drink you know and then you like feel like especially in my world I mean everyone pretty much is like socially having a drink so I would be like okay I'll have a drink but then he got to a point that I was like and that was like 20 years later because it just happened over two years ago I was like I don't want to drink like I don't care what anyone thinks and I don't care if they have Fe peer pressure I'm going to have my Min tea my cam tea and if they want to drink I'm not making anyone feel bad about drinking they can do whatever they want this is their Temple you know this is my temple I get to choose and they shouldn't make me feel bad that I don't want to you know so um then I kind of stood up for myself I think that happens after your 40s like you care less about what other people think and um wait till you're 50 oh my God I can't wait for that I'm gonna like he's he's gonna be amazing but I think the thing you mentioned you mentioned like being directed and and and being kind of dedicated to your path and and and I feel like that's the underappreciated aspect of of understanding you and your career a lot of people arrive in New York City every single day with a similar dream or ambition that you had when you were a young person and you arrived there and a lot of those people are very beautiful you're beautiful but that doesn't tell the story of how you translated like an opportunity into the career that you had and I think between the lines there is an intense work ethic and a very intentional approach to what you were doing like how did you apply those skills like what is the differentiator between you and the career that you've enjoyed versus you know the other beautiful people who aren't enjoying the same kind of career you can't and you're not allowed to say luck or you're you know no I don't believe I don't believe in luck I don't believe in luck I believe in hard work and but I believe in um I mean I think discipline but I also believe that I always treated everyone the way I like to be treated and I've always was appreciative I have this immense sense of gratitude for just being there so even though you know people were like oh you know you you know when I was 19 I was like I want the model of you know the model of the year and everybody's like how does it feel to be it didn't really it doesn't matter to me because quite frankly I never saw myself as a motel it's just not something I didn't drink the Kool-Aid I didn't believe because I was a model or because I I became successful in this job like I was better than anybody I just and I didn't believe that I believe that I just got to learn that craft really well and I understood what the job entail and like I learned how to do the job really well but by no means is what defined me it's just something I did it's not it's not who I am I don't know if you know it's like I go there I had this opportunity at you know 13 14 years old when I finally left home and and and and St pursued this career that really I thought it was just really I did it for the money I did it because I was like what else am I going to do at 14 years old that I can help my family you know I don't have any other jobs that are offering me an opportunity so I'll take this one so for me it was really like a job so I never like it didn't kind of Define me I kind of did it my way like I never became like you know it was like oh it needs to be glamorous I was never glamorous I'm a jeans and t-shirt type of girl like I if I needed to go to parties or hang out with this type of people I never did any of that like I went there I did my job I did the best that I could I never was late in my life for my jobs like never showed up like late I was there before everyone I was there 100% you know I I I just wanted to make sure that if people were booking me and they they were trusting in me that I was going to show up and deliver you know and I think that's kind of what it was I did it my way you know and it didn't broke me kind of Cu I saw you know people in this business you know you can lose yourself because if you drink the Kool-Aid if you start thinking you know like you lose yourself in it I never lost myself it was just a job and it's still just a job I can't even believe I'm still doing it sometimes I go in and I do it you it's not it's not what I do full- time anymore but it's just one of those things that you know I got to do this I got to make a career out of it and got to make a great living and help my family and I I have wonderful you know I got to travel the world and learn different languages and and and all of that and that's how I see it I don't see it as a you know I don't see myself you're not defined by it you're not you're not caught up in in the kind of dark underbelly of that very strange world this whole world is like almost like a parallel reality for me you know what I mean if something is like a switch on button I go there I do my job I take my picture I turn it off I go home and I have the same friends I have my my family I'm very close with my family but I think you're very good at seeing opportunities when they arise and you tell a little story in in in the new book about being 14 and on route to Tokyo and your parents gave you your dad gave you a little bit of money that was intended for getting a cab from that's the first day arve in s Paulo and instead of using that money oh it was you were super young right so you had a little bit of money to take a tab and you had the presence of mind to say this money would be better spent buying some clothes so I can do better in my auditions or whatnot um which isn't like that's not normal like that's somebody who's thinking ahead who's planning long term who's understanding that they have an opportunity in front of them and trying to figure out how to make the most out of it with limited resources and I think that speaks to or says a lot about your sensibility or your perspective as a business person yeah I mean it's so interesting to see it that way I mean I for me at that moment in time you know I I I just felt like I did something else than that you know that was one of the things and now that you're saying that I actually did that throughout because I bought my first apartment when I was 19 years old and when everybody was buying you know designer bags all the models and you know like remember I didn't know I was going to last in this business I thought like I didn't go to school I didn't go to high school I didn't you know I I left I I went to work and whenever I go I go back I thought I was going to be a farmer or something because I just always love the land and but I I didn't think like you know like where am I going to go from here so I have to make sure that I have at least a place to live I'm a cancer so I want to have like a stable home and when I was 19 you know people start flying me first class because I was like the model of the year right saw all the clients now are paying me first class I was exchanging those tickets for Coach classes because I was every two three days in a different country and instead of paying um my you know a rent in an apartment I pay I put down a down payment for an apartment and then I was paying my mortgage instead of paying rent and you're 19 and I was 19 so I I own my first apartment as 19 years old it was like a in in New York City it was like facing a wall of another building mind you he was like a very apartment you know that does require some maturity and some long-term thinking well well because I just thought to myself like you know I don't know how long I'm going to stay here you know I i' I at least I have to have a place to live if I like I'm not going to live empty-handed you know what I mean like what do I care about a bag or like what is that going to give me it's not going to be a roof over my head I need to make sure that I have that I can spend in the right places but I think that sense came from my mother because we grew up you know my mother was a cashier in the bank my father had like lots of different jobs like he had a real estate job but he was you know my mom they literally we we were like really simple people and grew up in two bedrooms with six girls and and and money was all always tight so I learned how to is the same thing in the book is like how do you prepare how do you not waste food I mean everything is like I think in my life I was kind of like raised that way you know what I mean kind of plan ahead like for tomorrow so you make sure that you have like food for everyone like like we're going to reuse the meat we cook on the barbecue and we're going to put it in the rice we're going to have carera so we're going to have an abundant meal because we have the rest of the you know what I mean it's kind of like that it's like you put money in the bank so when you retire you have something to to live off when you can no longer work the same thing I feel about food like you eat the right food so when you're older you you're able to have the energy and your body is functioning because you made the right choices so for me it's the same thing you know it's kind of making like just being kind of what is necessary here like do I really need this what do I need more do I need a roof over my head or do I need this this bags and this stuff do I need to take a taxi when I arrive to the model apartment when I'm 14 even though I never been to the city or can I take the subway and save the money so I can get the clothes for the casting and maybe I can get a job it's like it's kind of thinking like with the resources that I have right now what is the smartest how is the smartest way to use them I guess if you're like me never without a water bottle let's get it right people allow me to rock your world with my new favorite toy that's actually not a toy at all it's a non-negotiable essential camel backs Podium steel 100% % leak proof water bottle emphasis on leak proof for all 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it's you know what it is it's a character I always call call it her because I think being a MTO what I understood as being a motto is to play a character in a silent movie you know you get to experience all these different charact all these different aspects of of of being a woman let's say because one designer wants you to be more androgynous you know one designer was you know I remember diding a Balin Saga campaign I was like they made me a boy I was like literally like a week I was like a man a boy and in one I was like the sexy Versace campaign like you know like with big hair and like you know pushup bra you know so it was kind of like I got to play from the the androgynous girl to the very sexy to the tomb boy like I got to you know I mean you should see I don't know if you ever saw my book the other one that was like the 20 years I did a 20 well I watched the video that you did where you kind of went through it and you were talking about what was going on with you with each of those photographs yeah so it's it's it's it's really about kind of playing these different roles but it's just instead of you talking like you would be in a movie you're just you got to make the image that picture that one capture image to to it's a performance art it's a performance art but it's such a weird world I know that like Alexander McQueen he was like he was really the Catalyst right he was the guy who gave me the chance you know he gave me the the chance but when you watch his shows or some of these other shows like the designs are are stunning and gorgeous but they're also totally inaccessible it's like who wears this does anybody is there anybody in the world that even wear I mean if you're Lady Gaga I guess or somebody like that but like yeah it's a fantasy and so it's curious like how does that translate into I guess it's just how you feel and how you think about a particular designer or a brand and not so much about directly selling those designs to the person who's going to the department store or the boutique right yeah they're not thinking I don't even understand the business model of the whole thing yeah I me neither to be honest with you but I think it's a really I mean I think it has changed a lot uh since I started like I see a big shift because I think before there was a lot more creativity there was allowed a lot more creativity I think you know McQueen or JN galano you know the shows and stuff like you were like in a world like sure and the photographers being rock stars themselves oh yeah and and it was a I think it was a moment in time where there was so much less about selling but it was much more about the the inspiration and the aspir aspiring you know the aspiration of creating like a fantasy and like a and it was a lot of fun then I have to say at that time because I would have been dead I wouldn't have survived it I would have gone all in I would have been at every after hours party it would have been a disaster you see I was in bed like studying my astrology books like by 10 you know that was me I was like by 10 I was like oh no I have to go I was like I have to start early so I can go to bed early so for me it was a a different thing but um you know but I guess for me I also fell very responsible because I didn't want to one of the The Guiding lights for me I really believe was my parents because I saw how hard they work and I didn't want to disappoint them so I think part of like me being so stay on the line was like I'm not disappointing my parents I don't care if they're not here they are going to know what I'm doing like I remember part of the reason why I got so freaked out about the McQueen show and they sent me out like without a top because I couldn't speak English and they didn't even do a feeding anyway so then I was I was like oh my God if my parents see this they're GNA make me go back home and then I you know what is it like when you go internet but there was no internet in 1997 19 it wasn't so thank God because they didn't even saw that otherwi they would have been like what what are you doing I be like I don't know and you have five siblings right I have five sisters I'm a middle child I have two older sisters and two younger sisters and I'm a twin MH in the middle so we like the the sandwich like the cheese in the sandwich being Brazilian uh you're connected to the Amazon and to climate change issues and you've done a lot in terms of your environmental advocacy and clean water initiatives talk a little bit about how that began and and what that looked like now you know I um I've always been a big um basically like a child of nature I always tell my children when they ask you know what's your religion they say Mom we don't go to church I say you know what you're in church every day I say I say what do I say when people ask what my what my religion is I say love is your religion and nature is your church that's your Cathedral that's the big church that's our Temple you know so you honor your temple you love your temple you CU that's the only reason why we are all alive because this whole ecosystem is making it possible you know to grow our food to give us to provide us with all the things we need to survive so U and that's how I grew up I felt that way and especially having a grandmother that everything was from the earth you know she grew everything she ate and and uh you know the Earth was giving us the herbs that we needed to like when we fell ill and and I grew up in that way so when you grew up in that way and you grew up running around bare feet you know I come from a small village and anytime you want to eat something you grab there was like a tangerine tree or like a orange tree or is a plum tree and you just go and pick up the fruit from the tree we never bought fruits from the supermarket you know you go either you had it in your backyard or your neighbor had it or the other neighbor you know somebody had the fruit he wanted to eat you just go grab it so I think when you leave with that connection to Nature you have a different appreciation it's like so I feel like nature is just like it's it's it's me like I think we are n you know we are that and I think this connection from nature for me is not something it's just something I've always known you know is how I grew up and so for me um taking care of which I love which is nature is natural um so the but the first time I realized there was really problems happening is when I went to actually spend some time uh with the indigenous people in shingu area of the Amazon in the 2004 and that's when the first time I realized you know pesticide what's what pesticides were doing where mining was doing how they were contaminating the rivers and basically all the indigenous tribes they were living and depending on the that water they were getting sick and even though they were living very wholesomely you know with nature and you know by the impact that the big farms and different Mining and all that stuff was having um was really um having a really terrible impact in their in their their livelihoods and and that's when the first time I was like I need to do something about it and that's when I started like I had a flipflop line at the time in Brazil and we gave a percentage you know to that's actually a funny story the the the indigenous people and I was like I wonder what they would do with this with this funds but it was like a group that helped indigenous in Brazil and the funny enough when I did when I turned 40 this was in 2004 so I was like 24 cut to when I'm 40 2020 I was 40 um I wanted to do something for my 40th birthday and I was like oh I want to plant some trees in the in in the Amazon and how we going to do it so we looked around for who can help us do that and we contacted the the people that are working with the indigenous people that we knew in in Brazil and they're like we have the largest seed bank in the Amazon and we started with the money with the whole program that you gave in 2004 that money that was for the sale of the flipflops now years later they had the largest seed bank of you know the indigenous they they they collected the larger seed bank and this is how with that whole group of people we basically planted over 300,000 trees in that area of the Amazon so that was like years later so that's just how funny how life goes but for me because I was so connected to nature and I always wanted to help and my dad always said you know water is the most important thing and of course I saw that with the indigenous people because that's how they were all getting sick because all the the you know residue of Mining and and and pesticides were going into their water in my little village we were having a lot of problems with agriculture as well where there was a lot of runoffs from Roundup and all the stuff that they use in agriculture all the pesticides and stuff and it was getting a lot of people sick so we actually did the AGA limpa program in 200 I think it was 20 the N or I don't remember when we started but it was like a long time ago and I funded it and my dad who's also a sociologist worked with the university and we and we basically regenerated the whole area of the river that was kind of you know getting the water to the city and we were able to clean it it took us like a few years to do it you know it was pretty simple because all we had to do I mean it was not simple my dad is the one who did the work it was simpler for me I just kind of funded it but he was there every day he had to work with I don't know how many farmers you had to take their pie of land and kind of grow the native species Forest you know the native Forest back so then the there's a buffer there was a buffer and then the root systems could could filtrate it before all that stuff would go into the river and then that was the agal limpa project and that was one of the projects we did to clean the water and anyway so there's lots of different things but in overall thing my my thing is you know we got to take care of Mother Earth she takes care of us you know when people say to me oh we're going to save the planet I say you're that's such an ego thing you know as humans we think we're going to save anything the planets is in her own process of evolution this is a you know it's I mean dinosaurs were here before us and you know lur I mean so many different civilizations the planet will be fine that's what I always say I say please don't fool yourself I think we really saving ourselves we need to yeah I say there's no Sav we need re ourselves back yeah this is really about us protecting the resources and and taking care of what we really need for our survival because once we are gone the planet is going to regenerate I mean I've seen this over and over again the planet regenerates itself so quickly you know because it's it's just a very intelligent we need to learn from nature instead of like trying to control nature we need to just like take a humble pill and and learn from the Big Mama we've moved so far away from that and we do live in this dualistic mindset where we think there's you know our environments and then there's nature or there's us and that's outside um but really understanding that you're never out of nature as you as you said um I think it's the first point of trying to really deepen your relationship with the world in which you live we all live and share and I think when it comes to the Amazon like we all hear about deforestation and all the you know clearing that's going on for cattle grazing and the strip mining and all the stuff that you mentioned but it's an abstraction especially for you know people in North America like we know what's going on we know it's bad but I've never visited there like I've never seen it myself and you being Brazilian gives you kind of a deeper appreciation and understanding of the extent of it you know I think it's how people tell the story because I think it's a lot deeper than you know I think people like depending on the industry that wants to benefit from something that tell the story and they say okay this is what we're going to do is about the cing oh yeah it's so crazy a lot of NOS go in there and they say we're going to have an NGO because we're going to like protect Amazon but they're meantime they're the owners of the bigger paper company that comes from the Amazon they are just not you know what I mean so there it's not not all is as it seems no it's it's a very it's a wild wild west there and one of the biggest you know I've been there a few times and also done a lot of um just kind of like talking to people and understanding what happens there and a lot of the you know there's ancient Woods there and a lot of that goes to Europe so like what a lot of the the cattle for example is what they use to kind of occupy the land but what they're really after which is really valuable there is like gold and Min m you know the the rare medals the rare medals yeah the rare medals and the gold and all that stuff that's in there that's what interest this like you know the different um countries let's say they are not brail when they and because it's so corrupt unfortunately you know Brazil is very corrupt the politicians are very corrupt what happens is they sell those rights to those countries and then we have what we have and then the cattle like in the end they just kind of put them there because they have to occupy the land after they REM because they have to enter if you go there after they removed everything because they have to remove the value the value then they then they put all the cows there that's what they do so they remove the ancient wood they they remove the precious metals and and but they have to get there because if you fly over it it mean you're flying for hours over just a Green carpet so for you to have access to that you have to you can't just like clear cut because it grows so what they do to keep the the the forest from growing they just throw because it's very fertile the soil as soon as you cut because imagine that soil is been there like receiving all those back healthy bacteria from the leaves falling super fertile So within like three days you can Grass Grows Right and then in order for the trees not to keep growing because if you just leave abandon that's what's going to happen the birds are going to carry the seeds they're going to drop the seeds they're going to things are going to start growing again and then they won't have access you know so they kind of it's just like a cycle like but what is really after what they're really after it is the big stuff is the is the and and it's not unfortunately you know it's h it's so sad you know is greed mhm in the end of the day is greed and is greed by people that you know they don't have those natural resources where they are and and they understand the situation in Brazil and how corrupt the this the the 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their best interest from a wellness perspective I think the number one thing I feel is like monkey see monkey does right I think you have to be the example you have to leave it um cuz I think whatever you say is one thing and whatever you do you they need to kind they need to whatever you say whatever you do they have to be the same thing right sympatico yeah they have to be sympatico and um and that's what it is and and I think for the kids for my kids were were a lot easier because I was home a lot with them so I was you know taking them to school every day making their breakfast you know just having my Gardens at home growing the food so when the kids would come for play dates at the house you know my kids were grabbing like everything raw cucumbers carrots like green beans they were just grabbing it from the garden and like collecting things and putting in the basket it was like a game for them and it was like oh friends are coming over why are we going to grab for the for to Door picnic outside and then so they grew up in that way you know they they uh so it was easier for me to feed them healthier food and and and and explain to them you know we always compost it we had bees at our house um so you know they they were learning about you know when The Beekeeper would come and they explain you know how much be how much honey can you take and how much money how much honey do you leave for the bees and how does a the how does a queen bee work and all the so they were they're emotionally connected they were emotionally connected they were part of that like I was as a kid so um so for them is really natural and they were also homeschooled for the last three years um during the you know the whole pandemic thing I and we moved from Boston to Tampa so um it was a whole new world for them so I I homeschooled them and now they just went back to school but I have to tell you I see a huge difference especially because my son is 14 now so he wants to kind of push back this is what I'm getting at oh yeah well how old kid well they range from 28 to 16 and each one of there's four and each of them is different um but it's a delicate dance because you know we raised our kids similarly um but they reach a certain age and part of individuation and maturing is taking ownership for your own choices and understanding what you stand for and what you don't and in order to really Define that and hone that you have to go out and kind of push the envelope and try new things otherwise it's just something you're doing because that's the way you were raised and that's what your parents told you as opposed to really owning it for yourself and so so we have learned that you have to have the brains very loose and and let them go out and do what they want to do and control the environment at home but be you know very kind of nonplused if they go and make a choice that you wouldn't make or whatever and just be curious about it and allow them the space to do that and you know you hope they come back and you know do it the way you taught them to um and sometimes they do and sometimes they don't and again every one of them is different in our case but as they get to a certain point and especially you know when they're with peers and friends and they're in social situations those things they have to learn for themselves and you have to allow them to I think it's so interesting so you have to let go a little bit oh let go and let God yeah I tell myself that is like a mantra you know and and and I I I remind myself of like my mom let me leave home she emancipated me and I was leing in Japan at 14 and there was no cell phones like I call you know can you imagine doing that for one of your children right now no and actually you know what it's so funny because I was having a conversation with my son about that he um he was complaining you know I have chores in my house you know kids have to do their chores so set the table wash the dishes you know now I make a point you know I cook at you know they come from school I'm cooking you know they so one has to set the table whoever sets the table the other has to wash the dishes and there is like you have to clean your room you have to do the basic stuff you know my daughter is doing amazingly she loves it and she's like really good and very proud of herself mom look how good I cleaned the dishes like she's really good and she's washing herself she's not putting it in the machine she wants to learn how to really wash it and and and do it right and she's very focused on it my son is like always like why do I have to do this you know so actually we had like a breakthrough this Christmas this this whole holiday season because I said he says to me I'm going to leave home when I'm 18 mom and I don't know if I'm going to go to college you didn't go to college you didn't go to school I'm going to just leave home when I'm 18 and I'm going to do this and I'm going to do that I'm like okay that's great so you're going to leave in your own apartment and who's going to cook for you and who's going to wash your dishes and who's going to clean your clothes who's going to do that and he's like for a second he's like because you're not going to have a chef and like a you know like and he was thinking for a second and I say well this is why when mommy tells you to do those things at home you know is because I want to give you more tools for your tool boox because when you learn how to do those things and they become second nature to you then you don't even have to think about it you become empowered to do it for yourself you don't depend on anybody and that's nothing it's amazing to be able to do that I said you know what made me feel so like strong and capable when I left my home because my mom taught me how to do those things so when I left home and I was leaving by myself at 14 years old I was first at 13 at 14 I moved to Japan but because I was leaving in the mod's apartment I was the only person there who knew how to clean cook iron do absolutely everything in the house because my mom taught me and it was easy for me I didn't think it was a struggle I was happy to do it and I was happy to to do it for the other girls that didn't know how to do it but if you're going to be planning on leaving on your own at 18 who do you think is going to do all those things for you so all I'm telling you is like take advantage that mommy's here for you right now and I'm able to teach you all those things and you can do it at your time I'm not telling you like at this time you have to wash the dishes so let me just help you I'm going to create a list for you and you just have to do them and you can decide if you want to wash clothes once or twice a week you can decide if you want to wash the dishes right after dinner or before you go to bed whatever you want but if you learn how to do those things you're going to see how empowered you're going to feel and the more tools we can put like the more things like the simple things like that that you can learn and that you can equip your tool box to do you're just going to be just that much like capable and and and there's nothing more fulfilling than feeling like you're able to do stuff that you're capable and then he looked at me and he's like okay mom so when we get back home you give me that list and I'm going to do it I'm like I wow I was going to say like he actually he actually receiv that I I think I have a breakthrough I think I got a breakthrough with the hormones are raging like whatever mom you know storming off like you can get you can get that reaction too that was good good job don't you think that was a good thing but but I used but you see it was a moment that I used what he said because when he thought to himself that's true how am I going to do all that stuff I said you don't want to live in like a you know a messy stinky place that is not clean like you know you want to like have you know so you need to know how to do this stuff and I think all I I see like all the things that happen in life like that like different tools we acquire you know even the job that I you know my job like all the tools that I've acquired in this job all the things that I've learned to do um that I don't know when I'm going to use I use them for my job but maybe I'm going to they going to be useful like in 20 years from my life sure but you came from very different circumstances it's the it's the Peril of success right like you and and the kid's dad like worked very hard to achieve all of these things in life and now they're reared in you know like an insane degree of privilege and it becomes more difficult to instill that kind of work ethic into somebody who you know grows up that way I think you're correct I think it becomes a lot more difficult but I think goes back to the discipline and it goes back to priorities and I think it for me it becomes about what kind of you know I I feel like I'm their Guardian because we don't possess our children right I mean we just come here they come through us but they're as much as our teachers as we are they're teachers and we're constantly learning and teaching you know in every relationship in our life and and I feel that we get this moment in time which is very short in a way that we get to influence our children because then they go I mean look at my parents they had 14 years to influence me then I was out in the world and I never went back and I keep remembering like what are all the things that if they wouldn't have taught me those things where would I be today and I'm so grateful for them for for those lessons and I feel like yes I grew up in very different circumstances than my kids and it is a bit more challenging to have them you know make their bed and wash the dishes and clean their you know when I have a person that can do it too but I make a point of me doing it so then they learn that oh Mommy's doing the dinner Mommy is making the breakfast mommy is so they're like weel you have to model and I feel like it's a different kind of modeling is it is the type of modeling that I prefer it's it's the type of modeling that I find to be the important type of modeling because that's the you know I mean what's Mo the most important thing you're going to do in your life I feel like raising children is is by far the most challenging thing I've ever done and the most uh fulfilling at the same time and you know but I feel that if if I if I don't do that if I don't equip my children to be good capable assets you know for themselves in their lives if they're not going to be then I fail I I feel yeah you haven't done your job then I haven't done my job I mean I feel that's my job I mean that's a job I do to kind of make a living so I can like you know put foot on the table and have but my real job as as I think as a as a mom and I chose to be a mom so I have to show up for my kids and I feel like this things that my you know I think is really what shaped me and what made me who I am today was definitely the upbringing that I had and and what my parents how they guided me and I feel like that's really important so I make that a priority in my life to make sure that my kids are going to have even though they don't have those same needs you know to do those things because my mom didn't have a a person she could pay to come clean the house we had to you clean the bathroom you clean the you know it was like a list all of us have to share between us who's going to do what and we grew up that way and it was kind of fun because you know I was always I always love the cleaning part you know I love organizing and cleaning I feel like a clean house is a clean mind is like a what's out is in you know if like if everything is organized outside I can think um and I tell my kids that and I feel that um if I can really get them to do those simple things in life you know and and learn those things and teach them how to be self-sufficient and capable human beings I feel like I've done my job and then I can rest and then whatever else they do the choices they make if they choose to eat the food that I fed them when they were little if now they want to go eat you know whatever or I mean it's going to be what they're going to do you know they're going to choose their friends hopefully they they choose wisely because in the end of the day they're going to be the one dealing with the consequences of their actions and I always tell them like listen you know you're going to go out there and you're going to make the Cho whatever choice you make there are going to be consequences you're dealing with those consequences me this is your life and sometimes they need to they need to make those mistakes and face those consequences like we had I mean how many mistakes that I mean I have and those those experiences are formative like I'm sure if you look in the rear view mirror and think about the panic attacks that you were having on airplanes and your inability to get into an elevator and you know this desire to jump off your balcony on some level you wouldn't wish that experience on anybody but you probably wouldn't wna change your experience either because it's set in motion this whole sensibility and way of being that you now have and I think with kids they regardless of whether they hear you in the moment or whether they go out into the world and make a bunch of mistakes like they come back yeah and whatever you taught them it's in there and at some point when they're ready or whatever like they return to it and you know and and I think to to trust that it's very important and I also feel like because if you try to overly control it you're going to drive them away absolutely and and you know I think for me I keep going back to me as a kid and the trust my parents had in me to let me go and I wouldn't be who I am today if it wasn't for them trusting in me and for all the mistakes that I've made and then had to come the other side and figure out for myself so I think it's important to give our children the Dignity of Their Own process you know because we had a dignity you know we have to go through our own process to become who we are and I think as long as they know that we are there and what what is our values you know is like those things that are important what is what is that we stand for what's important for us you know as as as as a as a value as a core value as as as a being a good human being and a good person and if you thought that your children and and they and they got it in the end of the day they're going to go out there in the world and they're going to have to make their mistakes and I I think the best thing you can do for them it's is just be there for them whenever they they come back and if they want your help you know and I think it's it's hard because you want to protect them like you can put Bobble wrap on them so like nothing will touch them and they will be safe but in the end of the day that's unrealistic and it's like it doesn't work anyway you know what I like this idea you know there's a metaphor of the butterfly imagine the caterpillar as she's transforming into becoming the butterfly she's you know eating eating all the you know until she finally starts spinning into a cocoon and and then she has to like go through that whole stous process if you ever seen like you know they turn into GP yeah but they're like but it's exactly it's just and it's really kind of like hard to like when they're coming out it's like really awkward and it looks like they're very strenuous and very difficult so if you go in there and you try to help them come out you're going to them you're going to the butterfly and she won't be able to have the strength she needs struggle is the struggle is what crucial to the the growth and you have to give them the Dignity of their own process you have to be and I and I keep reminding myself I cannot take away that opportunity for them because my parents gave me the opportunity for me to go through my own challenges and I grew and and I want my kids to have that same opportunity because whoever they're going to become is going to be based on what their choice is and hopefully I gave them enough good examples and and and good um values where they would make the choices that is right for them you know what is it that you want people to understand or take away from the new book and and how you are modeling this lifestyle um whether it's dietary changes Lifestyle Changes uh movement practices how can somebody who is interested in kind of leveling up across the board begin the process of of making those changes in their life you know it's funny you know because when I decided to do a cookbook I'm the farthest thing there is from a chef let me tell you something I I am not a chef let me just like let's be honest you've got a private Chef in home that person is taking care of everything not anymore I used to you don't anymore no I don't I don't it's no the last two years I don't you're cooking your own meals yes I'm cooking my own meals yeah I I grew up there way and I want like I told you like my priority is showing my kids what I believe it's important for them and and and I can't I can't say oh this is important and then I have and I'm not doing it you know what I mean so it has to be cohesive right and and I think that for me um really being like living what I believe is very important and I was showing my kids that this is important to me like the only way I'm going to show them that is by doing that so yes I had chefs and this is how I learn how to cook a lot of the things a lot of the recipes in the book are like inspired by the things that I created with the chefs that I throughout the years I had the opportunity to you know to really work with Incredible people incredible Chef people that love food as much as I do because I love food um but was really an idea for me to look I can say go and meditate go and exercise you know I believe meditation I believe rest I believe um exercise I believe nutrition all of those things are extremely important for you to be able to take kind of ownership of your health and really take care of yourself and have and work on just having a more clear mind and just feeling more connected to yourself I think all of those things are different aspects of it but the reason about the cookbook is quite frankly I was seeing kids were coming to our house and in play dates and and moms will come and be like how did you get my kid to eat broccoli or roasted vegetables or and it was like so simple and I was like oh maybe we can share how to make some simple recipes that are super easy you can make it like in 10 minutes and you know moms some you know you just sometimes feel overwhelmed and I know because life is busy there's so so much going on so I was like how can I help in this way and also I feel like food is a perfect time for you to practice being present and mindful because you can eat like on a rush and not being present and the food have a one effect in your body or you can do something which is what I talk about in the book is like every time I look at my food not only the act of preparing your food there so much loves and you're touching the food and you're connecting with your food that's one thing but even if you're not the one cooking your food just to take a moment to bless your food to acknowledge that that is something that is alive that you're taking it and you're that's also your source of life you know so it's kind of like connecting to the food in that way I think it it does something because everything is energy so you're having a transfer of energy with something and with the intention that you're eating it has a different I I feel huge you know when I start doing that does make a difference how he has a different just being present and being connected to what you're doing having gratitude for that moment and you get to do that three times a day you know I mean now I have a juice once a day but I still blast my juice but it's just kind of like it's just this book what I would like to to to for people to take is like it can be really simple it doesn't have to be complicated to to eat healthy and really like if you have plans you know my mom taught me you know since I was a kid like no food waste so how can we organize our meals so can there's a big thing about like reducing waste yeah there for me that's huge and also like me planning like if you're going to buy because or you know food sourcing that's huge it's not about having something with a lot of condiments and a lot of stuff it's just like keep it simple but buying really great quality products like if you can do that and then instead of like because a lot of people are like oh and then you buy organic and then you throw it out because it's like you know it spoils much faster and I'm like yeah but if you have a meal planning and I and I teach that I kind of give some suggestions in the book like my mom did that I grew up like that because she didn't have time you know she was working all the time so she had like in the fridge like what we going to have for the whole week so she would go to the groceries and she would buy and then the things were allowed to the next day so you would always know what we were eating and things that wouldn't be eaten could be easily transferred for the next day and be made into the next organiz so that nothing spoils and you're so nothing spoils and you never had food waste because you're always taking it from one day to the next so is never wasting you always	they come from school I'm cooking you know they so one has to set the table whoever sets the table the other has to wash the dishes and there is like you have to clean your room you have to do the basic stuff you know my daughter is doing amazingly she loves it and she's like really good and very proud of herself mom look how good I cleaned the dishes like she's really good and she's washing herself she's not putting it in the machine she wants to learn how to really wash it and and and do it right and she's very focused on it my son is like always like why do I have to do this you know so actually we had like a breakthrough this Christmas this this whole holiday season because I said he says to me I'm going to leave home when I'm 18 mom and I don't know if I'm going to go to college you didn't go to college you didn't go to school I'm going to just leave home when I'm 18 and I'm going to do this and I'm going to do that I'm like okay that's great so you're going to leave in your own apartment and who's going to cook for you and who's going to wash your dishes and who's going to clean your clothes who's going to do that and he's like for a second he's like because you're not going to have a	8	4	6	my daughter is doing amazingly she loves it and she's like really good and very proud of herself mom look how good I cleaned the dishes	I'm going to leave home when I'm 18 mom and I don't know if I'm going to go to college you didn't go to college you didn't go to school I'm going to just leave home when I'm 18 and I'm going to do this and I'm going to do that	8,6,8	-2,7,3	8	6	8	-2	7	3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjK5ahIgsHA	4,193	rjK5ahIgsHA	2024-03-25 00:00:00	the choices that you're making are really either supporting you or not straight from the pages of Victoria Secret please welcome jaelle bunin gazelle bunin gazelle has walked in nearly 500 fashion shows and great the covers of more than 1,200 different magazines on paper like you're perhaps highly unrelatable you know what it is it's a character that's the job I do to kind of make a living so I can like you know put foot on the table raising children is is by far the most challenging thing I've ever done it's a different kind of modeling is the type of modeling that I prefer food is a perfect time for you to practice being present and mindful because it can be really simple it doesn't have to be complicated to eat healthy nature is just like it's me instead of like trying to control nature we need to just like take a humble pill and and learn from the Big Mama [Music] today's episode is brought to you by the awesome organizations that make this show [Music] possible so nice to meet you nice to meet you too so excited to have you here today yes when this opportunity presented itself I was like of course I want to talk to Jazelle and then I had my own like sort of mini panic attack we're going to get into panic attacks I'm like what could I possibly talk to this person about the alltime great super model of all time everybody knows this on paper like you're perhaps highly unrelatable but then the more you dig into your story and the more I kind of learned about your Arc and your past and what brought you to this place there's so much that's deeply relatable and your kind of transformation story is remarkably similar to mine although you did yours at like 23 I was 40 um but there's so much in there so I thought it would be cool to kind of um talk a little bit about what it was like what happened and how you made these changes in your life because I think you're in this interesting new season right now where despite the fact that you've been this Wellness Advocate and wellness Warrior for a long time my sense is that there's a there's a more full Embrace of of that now with kind of how you see yourself and what's important to you a well thank you for the introduction you know the funny thing is I you know people's you know what I did for a living is something that kind of just happened to me at 14 years old you know it was it was like hey do you want to be a model and I thought oh I can help my family you know I can do make a living and and help you know I have five sisters and and all that so modeling to me is something that is um an opportunity that came along like I think in life you have these opportunities that either you take that train and then see where it goes you know and I never even believed that this was going to take me and I was going to be doing this for almost 30 years you know it's it's one of those things that I was like oh I'll start doing this job and you know send money home and help my sisters go through school and do all that and um and maybe in five years you know I'll get a house because I didn't even go to school you know I I I was emancipated at 14 yeah you were in Tokyo at 14 I was living in Japan without speaking English and J or Japanese and that's when I when I start learning the language of of of energy you know what I mean because you don't have to understand the language you just have to feel you know something there's a lot more that has been said without words you know sure so I start learning about that um but I think that I went through this journey of modeling which was something I thought was going to last five years and I was just going to help my family out for a little bit and it just kept going you know it just kept happening you know I I didn't even think you can have longevity in this career because it's not what I what I saw really around me happening um but you know I kept it kept working out so I kept doing it and it was kind of a Mindless thing you know when you got in the hamster wheel and I think we do that sometimes in life and you're so young you don't know and you Liv the fast life and all of that so in my early 20s I um developed you know anxiety and panic attacks and all that because you know when you drink a bottle of wine and that because you like I used to be a smoker so I smoke I can't even imagine I used to smoke it feels like a whole different life you know but um it was the late 90s and there was a lot of um drugs and fashion and all that so I thought I was saying just because I was like having some wine and smoking cigarettes everybody was doing way worse things than yeah I'm sure you've seen a lot I've seen a lot yeah that's a whole other show about that that's a whole other story but yeah so um you know so that was the beginning for me to start reconnecting with myself because I think when I was 14 and I got that train my only focus was like how can I be the best that I can do on this and and and that was my focus and and I didn't meure any sacrifice he was like if I had to work 360 days a year and I felt like I couldn't say no because people were giving me a chance and then I was like in this really overdrive uh and burn down my adrenals I found out later when I found this amazing natural Doctor Who told me like listen you don't have any more adrenal they're shut down because you burn them basically I'm like but I'm only 22 you know so um basically I had to change the habits that I you know smoking a pack of cigarettes drinking alcohol every day to myself down coffee all day to keep myself up and also going from you know one time zone to the next I was three days in Paris two days in London one day in New York going back to you know my life was in a living in a suitcase and of course your nervous system is going to freak out you know and the way I was eating it was very you know anything that was in front of me I was just like not mindful about anything you know I was just kind of um like a Workhorse and when that happen to me is when I you know I come from a family that is very my my grandmother had a tea for everything so we never had we were not the kind of you know you get sick let me see this herbal remedy that we you know so yeah you grew up in kind of a small village right in Brazil your grandmother was cultivating herbs and she was the person that everyone would go to for their remedy so you have this sort of background and connection you know with the Earth exactly that you know is kind of lingering in the back of your mind when you're just you know hammering nails and and you know drinking wine and living that life but you're young it's like that's kind of what your 20s are for kind of and you're you're on this like Jet Plane I mean figuratively and literally like your career's taking off on top of that a people pleasing tendency where you feel like you have to say yes to everything and you're just go go go go go yeah and and I think but that was a big wakeup call for me because I think sometimes you know you have to reach rock bottom and when I had that those anxiety and they start becoming like almost CRI because I couldn't get on planes he was just you know I was going to all these doctors and they were like you have to take this stuff and I was just afraid of taking anything because I've never taken anything you know I was a there was a t for for this there you know my grandmother wasn't there so finally you know I wasn't going to take any medication because just the idea of taking something I was like I was normal before how can I go back being what I was you know like I I I didn't have these issues so what's happening long story short I found this doctor I had to replace my habits it was that simple I had to replace these habits that had created the reality I was living at that moment which was you know um really killing me in in so many ways you know killing my spirit killing my and and I replace it with good habits so now instead of smoking cigarettes and having a mocha frappuccino in the morning I'll would go out and do breath work and go out for a run and you know I replace in one day I gave up everything because he he looked at me he said jelle he called me Adrenalina he says do you want to live and I said I do he's like so we going to CH change my diet and that's for the first time in my life that I realized that I I was really like the one who got myself there and I was the only person who could get myself out by the choices that I was making so I had to take full responsibility for what I had created but it was in my power only in my power to change that there were no doctors nobody who was going to save me I had to change um you know the choices I was making and I and I did that and it was incredible because after over a year and a half like really struggling with anxiety and panic attacks and all that within 3 months I was like I never had another incident and it was you know and and once you start meditating I mean at that point this was 20 years ago right it wasn't like people were talking about meditation and yoga any other that um it was just um you know when you sit in silence and you and you reflect which is what we don't really give ourselves time to do because the world is so fastpaced and everything is catching your attention is trying to throw you off your Center you know everything is so busy it's like an overload of information to have that space to go inside and reflect and look and really take a step back I think that was the biggest blessing of my life so really I think what could have killed me is what gave me a whole new life and it was amazing because since then like everything changed like I realized that food is my medicine I realized that I am the director of my own movie that I'm creating my reality based on the choices that I'm making but what I'm choosing to not the people I'm choosing to have around in my life but what type of energy what kind of thoughts I allow to what am I feeding you know what kind of thoughts am I so all of that so that became like a big um changing of seasons for me in my early 20s what were those first couple weeks like if you went completely cold turkey on all of these bad habits I think it was like a drug addict I never was a I guess I was a drug etic only legal drugs because I guess alcohol is a drug and so is cigarettes nicotine and all that and caffeine and all that but they're like socially accepted but I tell you that I had the worst migraine I mean I felt like the I mean maybe that's what a person who's going like you have gone to to rehab right so I'm I don't know what you felt I would love to hear but I for me it was like right I mean I don't know about that sub it's the only way I know how to do it though I don't understand how people kind of phase out of stuff like you have to for me you have to draw the line and step over it and it's going to suck and you're going to be uncomfortable for a while while um but you know that on the other side of that lies all of this opportunity and possibility um but uh and that's what happened to me I think there was that because what I knew I knew that what I was and what if you do what you've always done you're going to get what you've always gotten is that simple and what I realized at that moment that what I what I created for myself was not what I wanted I needed to a drastic change and then he was like draw the line stopped everything in one day and the migraines and all of that like the consequences of what I had done I had to deal with them you know it took me like two weeks I think I was like having the worst migraines just because I didn't know if it was the nicotine the caffeine the alcohol I don't know what it was but it was all of it together and um but then it was amazing because from that experience I I became so much stronger and I and there are lots of different things that happen in my life after that I feel like every time we get tested it's like the Super Mario you know like the little video game when you go to do the big boss like you go through all the phases and you go to level one the big boss is like one it's okay to defeat that one but then the second one is like a tough for big boss and then the third one is you know it's like it's life I feel like that's what life is you get like the new tools so you get equipped and then you go to the next challenge that is a bigger one and then is a bigger one I feel like that's why we're here you know to keep seeing how we can expand how much more we can to grow to evolve to expand to see how strong and how creative and how you know how can how much we can experience of all this wonder how did you how did you plug that into the fast-paced life of of your modeling career because it's one thing if you're living a more kind of grounded atome lifestyle where you can control your food and your environment a little bit better but when you're flying all over the world and you're on these sets and there's craft service and it's junk food like you have to be way ahead of the curve to prepare everything to have everything kind of organized for yourself because how do you you if you're in just hotels all over the place and you arrive at midnight like how are you getting your you know like how did so how did you manage all of that you have to be very discipline I think you know when I I did this book called lessons and um and it was like everything starts to discipline that was like my first chapter and that's what I believe you have to decide you have and then you have to have the discipline to follow through so once you realize that these choices that you are making are having a positive impact in your life you want to continue doing them you know what I mean you don't want to fall back and just something that it didn't feel good that's your past like you don't want to go back there again so you're going to stick to the plan like this is what's working and this is what made me feel good again so I'm going to stick to this and of course it's not 100% you have to be compassionate with yourself too and say you I'll be like you know life is hard as it is you need to bit yourself in the head sometimes if you go and you oh you know I had like um I was exhausted I had like a banana bread or something or I had you know but I think you realize that the choices that you're making are are really either supporting you or not you know supporting you living the life that making you feel good and living the life that you want and is taking to the direction where you want to go or not and then it's just kind of an easier choice to make right and then I feel like when I go to the jobs you know I got to the point in my life where people know how I eat and you know I can tell people like listen this is what I want I want you got extensive riter yeah I kind of you know because I was already working for so long so I I have you know I got to the I guess really the privilege to be able to to kind of say like this is the kind of things that I would like to eat so please at the job you know if you're working 10 12 hours in a studio can we have these things available you know what I mean so then it was easier to keep the food healthy you know um because I think that's so important and then just to say I feel like and then saying no to those things you know like coffee or alcohol or things that I was just so used to because I was still in that same environment the environment hadn't changed I had changed but all of that was around me still but then it was just a choice of saying you know I feel great and I haven't drank alcohol in over two years now too this is something you know I even when I went back drinking after it was very moderate you know I was still like like I would drink socially sometimes you know peer pressure sometimes like oh come on have a drink you know and then you like feel like especially in my world I mean everyone pretty much is like socially having a drink so I would be like okay I'll have a drink but then he got to a point that I was like and that was like 20 years later because it just happened over two years ago I was like I don't want to drink like I don't care what anyone thinks and I don't care if they have Fe peer pressure I'm going to have my Min tea my cam tea and if they want to drink I'm not making anyone feel bad about drinking they can do whatever they want this is their Temple you know this is my temple I get to choose and they shouldn't make me feel bad that I don't want to you know so um then I kind of stood up for myself I think that happens after your 40s like you care less about what other people think and um wait till you're 50 oh my God I can't wait for that I'm gonna like he's he's gonna be amazing but I think the thing you mentioned you mentioned like being directed and and and being kind of dedicated to your path and and and I feel like that's the underappreciated aspect of of understanding you and your career a lot of people arrive in New York City every single day with a similar dream or ambition that you had when you were a young person and you arrived there and a lot of those people are very beautiful you're beautiful but that doesn't tell the story of how you translated like an opportunity into the career that you had and I think between the lines there is an intense work ethic and a very intentional approach to what you were doing like how did you apply those skills like what is the differentiator between you and the career that you've enjoyed versus you know the other beautiful people who aren't enjoying the same kind of career you can't and you're not allowed to say luck or you're you know no I don't believe I don't believe in luck I don't believe in luck I believe in hard work and but I believe in um I mean I think discipline but I also believe that I always treated everyone the way I like to be treated and I've always was appreciative I have this immense sense of gratitude for just being there so even though you know people were like oh you know you you know when I was 19 I was like I want the model of you know the model of the year and everybody's like how does it feel to be it didn't really it doesn't matter to me because quite frankly I never saw myself as a motel it's just not something I didn't drink the Kool-Aid I didn't believe because I was a model or because I I became successful in this job like I was better than anybody I just and I didn't believe that I believe that I just got to learn that craft really well and I understood what the job entail and like I learned how to do the job really well but by no means is what defined me it's just something I did it's not it's not who I am I don't know if you know it's like I go there I had this opportunity at you know 13 14 years old when I finally left home and and and and St pursued this career that really I thought it was just really I did it for the money I did it because I was like what else am I going to do at 14 years old that I can help my family you know I don't have any other jobs that are offering me an opportunity so I'll take this one so for me it was really like a job so I never like it didn't kind of Define me I kind of did it my way like I never became like you know it was like oh it needs to be glamorous I was never glamorous I'm a jeans and t-shirt type of girl like I if I needed to go to parties or hang out with this type of people I never did any of that like I went there I did my job I did the best that I could I never was late in my life for my jobs like never showed up like late I was there before everyone I was there 100% you know I I I just wanted to make sure that if people were booking me and they they were trusting in me that I was going to show up and deliver you know and I think that's kind of what it was I did it my way you know and it didn't broke me kind of Cu I saw you know people in this business you know you can lose yourself because if you drink the Kool-Aid if you start thinking you know like you lose yourself in it I never lost myself it was just a job and it's still just a job I can't even believe I'm still doing it sometimes I go in and I do it you it's not it's not what I do full- time anymore but it's just one of those things that you know I got to do this I got to make a career out of it and got to make a great living and help my family and I I have wonderful you know I got to travel the world and learn different languages and and and all of that and that's how I see it I don't see it as a you know I don't see myself you're not defined by it you're not you're not caught up in in the kind of dark underbelly of that very strange world this whole world is like almost like a parallel reality for me you know what I mean if something is like a switch on button I go there I do my job I take my picture I turn it off I go home and I have the same friends I have my my family I'm very close with my family but I think you're very good at seeing opportunities when they arise and you tell a little story in in in the new book about being 14 and on route to Tokyo and your parents gave you your dad gave you a little bit of money that was intended for getting a cab from that's the first day arve in s Paulo and instead of using that money oh it was you were super young right so you had a little bit of money to take a tab and you had the presence of mind to say this money would be better spent buying some clothes so I can do better in my auditions or whatnot um which isn't like that's not normal like that's somebody who's thinking ahead who's planning long term who's understanding that they have an opportunity in front of them and trying to figure out how to make the most out of it with limited resources and I think that speaks to or says a lot about your sensibility or your perspective as a business person yeah I mean it's so interesting to see it that way I mean I for me at that moment in time you know I I I just felt like I did something else than that you know that was one of the things and now that you're saying that I actually did that throughout because I bought my first apartment when I was 19 years old and when everybody was buying you know designer bags all the models and you know like remember I didn't know I was going to last in this business I thought like I didn't go to school I didn't go to high school I didn't you know I I left I I went to work and whenever I go I go back I thought I was going to be a farmer or something because I just always love the land and but I I didn't think like you know like where am I going to go from here so I have to make sure that I have at least a place to live I'm a cancer so I want to have like a stable home and when I was 19 you know people start flying me first class because I was like the model of the year right saw all the clients now are paying me first class I was exchanging those tickets for Coach classes because I was every two three days in a different country and instead of paying um my you know a rent in an apartment I pay I put down a down payment for an apartment and then I was paying my mortgage instead of paying rent and you're 19 and I was 19 so I I own my first apartment as 19 years old it was like a in in New York City it was like facing a wall of another building mind you he was like a very apartment you know that does require some maturity and some long-term thinking well well because I just thought to myself like you know I don't know how long I'm going to stay here you know I i' I at least I have to have a place to live if I like I'm not going to live empty-handed you know what I mean like what do I care about a bag or like what is that going to give me it's not going to be a roof over my head I need to make sure that I have that I can spend in the right places but I think that sense came from my mother because we grew up you know my mother was a cashier in the bank my father had like lots of different jobs like he had a real estate job but he was you know my mom they literally we we were like really simple people and grew up in two bedrooms with six girls and and and money was all always tight so I learned how to is the same thing in the book is like how do you prepare how do you not waste food I mean everything is like I think in my life I was kind of like raised that way you know what I mean kind of plan ahead like for tomorrow so you make sure that you have like food for everyone like like we're going to reuse the meat we cook on the barbecue and we're going to put it in the rice we're going to have carera so we're going to have an abundant meal because we have the rest of the you know what I mean it's kind of like that it's like you put money in the bank so when you retire you have something to to live off when you can no longer work the same thing I feel about food like you eat the right food so when you're older you you're able to have the energy and your body is functioning because you made the right choices so for me it's the same thing you know it's kind of making like just being kind of what is necessary here like do I really need this what do I need more do I need a roof over my head or do I need this this bags and this stuff do I need to take a taxi when I arrive to the model apartment when I'm 14 even though I never been to the city or can I take the subway and save the money so I can get the clothes for the casting and maybe I can get a job it's like it's kind of thinking like with the resources that I have right now what is the smartest how is the smartest way to use them I guess if you're like me never without a water bottle let's get it right people allow me to rock your world with my new favorite toy that's actually not a toy at all it's a non-negotiable essential camel backs Podium steel 100% % leak proof water bottle emphasis on leak proof for all 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it's you know what it is it's a character I always call call it her because I think being a MTO what I understood as being a motto is to play a character in a silent movie you know you get to experience all these different charact all these different aspects of of of being a woman let's say because one designer wants you to be more androgynous you know one designer was you know I remember diding a Balin Saga campaign I was like they made me a boy I was like literally like a week I was like a man a boy and in one I was like the sexy Versace campaign like you know like with big hair and like you know pushup bra you know so it was kind of like I got to play from the the androgynous girl to the very sexy to the tomb boy like I got to you know I mean you should see I don't know if you ever saw my book the other one that was like the 20 years I did a 20 well I watched the video that you did where you kind of went through it and you were talking about what was going on with you with each of those photographs yeah so it's it's it's it's really about kind of playing these different roles but it's just instead of you talking like you would be in a movie you're just you got to make the image that picture that one capture image to to it's a performance art it's a performance art but it's such a weird world I know that like Alexander McQueen he was like he was really the Catalyst right he was the guy who gave me the chance you know he gave me the the chance but when you watch his shows or some of these other shows like the designs are are stunning and gorgeous but they're also totally inaccessible it's like who wears this does anybody is there anybody in the world that even wear I mean if you're Lady Gaga I guess or somebody like that but like yeah it's a fantasy and so it's curious like how does that translate into I guess it's just how you feel and how you think about a particular designer or a brand and not so much about directly selling those designs to the person who's going to the department store or the boutique right yeah they're not thinking I don't even understand the business model of the whole thing yeah I me neither to be honest with you but I think it's a really I mean I think it has changed a lot uh since I started like I see a big shift because I think before there was a lot more creativity there was allowed a lot more creativity I think you know McQueen or JN galano you know the shows and stuff like you were like in a world like sure and the photographers being rock stars themselves oh yeah and and it was a I think it was a moment in time where there was so much less about selling but it was much more about the the inspiration and the aspir aspiring you know the aspiration of creating like a fantasy and like a and it was a lot of fun then I have to say at that time because I would have been dead I wouldn't have survived it I would have gone all in I would have been at every after hours party it would have been a disaster you see I was in bed like studying my astrology books like by 10 you know that was me I was like by 10 I was like oh no I have to go I was like I have to start early so I can go to bed early so for me it was a a different thing but um you know but I guess for me I also fell very responsible because I didn't want to one of the The Guiding lights for me I really believe was my parents because I saw how hard they work and I didn't want to disappoint them so I think part of like me being so stay on the line was like I'm not disappointing my parents I don't care if they're not here they are going to know what I'm doing like I remember part of the reason why I got so freaked out about the McQueen show and they sent me out like without a top because I couldn't speak English and they didn't even do a feeding anyway so then I was I was like oh my God if my parents see this they're GNA make me go back home and then I you know what is it like when you go internet but there was no internet in 1997 19 it wasn't so thank God because they didn't even saw that otherwi they would have been like what what are you doing I be like I don't know and you have five siblings right I have five sisters I'm a middle child I have two older sisters and two younger sisters and I'm a twin MH in the middle so we like the the sandwich like the cheese in the sandwich being Brazilian uh you're connected to the Amazon and to climate change issues and you've done a lot in terms of your environmental advocacy and clean water initiatives talk a little bit about how that began and and what that looked like now you know I um I've always been a big um basically like a child of nature I always tell my children when they ask you know what's your religion they say Mom we don't go to church I say you know what you're in church every day I say I say what do I say when people ask what my what my religion is I say love is your religion and nature is your church that's your Cathedral that's the big church that's our Temple you know so you honor your temple you love your temple you CU that's the only reason why we are all alive because this whole ecosystem is making it possible you know to grow our food to give us to provide us with all the things we need to survive so U and that's how I grew up I felt that way and especially having a grandmother that everything was from the earth you know she grew everything she ate and and uh you know the Earth was giving us the herbs that we needed to like when we fell ill and and I grew up in that way so when you grew up in that way and you grew up running around bare feet you know I come from a small village and anytime you want to eat something you grab there was like a tangerine tree or like a orange tree or is a plum tree and you just go and pick up the fruit from the tree we never bought fruits from the supermarket you know you go either you had it in your backyard or your neighbor had it or the other neighbor you know somebody had the fruit he wanted to eat you just go grab it so I think when you leave with that connection to Nature you have a different appreciation it's like so I feel like nature is just like it's it's it's me like I think we are n you know we are that and I think this connection from nature for me is not something it's just something I've always known you know is how I grew up and so for me um taking care of which I love which is nature is natural um so the but the first time I realized there was really problems happening is when I went to actually spend some time uh with the indigenous people in shingu area of the Amazon in the 2004 and that's when the first time I realized you know pesticide what's what pesticides were doing where mining was doing how they were contaminating the rivers and basically all the indigenous tribes they were living and depending on the that water they were getting sick and even though they were living very wholesomely you know with nature and you know by the impact that the big farms and different Mining and all that stuff was having um was really um having a really terrible impact in their in their their livelihoods and and that's when the first time I was like I need to do something about it and that's when I started like I had a flipflop line at the time in Brazil and we gave a percentage you know to that's actually a funny story the the the indigenous people and I was like I wonder what they would do with this with this funds but it was like a group that helped indigenous in Brazil and the funny enough when I did when I turned 40 this was in 2004 so I was like 24 cut to when I'm 40 2020 I was 40 um I wanted to do something for my 40th birthday and I was like oh I want to plant some trees in the in in the Amazon and how we going to do it so we looked around for who can help us do that and we contacted the the people that are working with the indigenous people that we knew in in Brazil and they're like we have the largest seed bank in the Amazon and we started with the money with the whole program that you gave in 2004 that money that was for the sale of the flipflops now years later they had the largest seed bank of you know the indigenous they they they collected the larger seed bank and this is how with that whole group of people we basically planted over 300,000 trees in that area of the Amazon so that was like years later so that's just how funny how life goes but for me because I was so connected to nature and I always wanted to help and my dad always said you know water is the most important thing and of course I saw that with the indigenous people because that's how they were all getting sick because all the the you know residue of Mining and and and pesticides were going into their water in my little village we were having a lot of problems with agriculture as well where there was a lot of runoffs from Roundup and all the stuff that they use in agriculture all the pesticides and stuff and it was getting a lot of people sick so we actually did the AGA limpa program in 200 I think it was 20 the N or I don't remember when we started but it was like a long time ago and I funded it and my dad who's also a sociologist worked with the university and we and we basically regenerated the whole area of the river that was kind of you know getting the water to the city and we were able to clean it it took us like a few years to do it you know it was pretty simple because all we had to do I mean it was not simple my dad is the one who did the work it was simpler for me I just kind of funded it but he was there every day he had to work with I don't know how many farmers you had to take their pie of land and kind of grow the native species Forest you know the native Forest back so then the there's a buffer there was a buffer and then the root systems could could filtrate it before all that stuff would go into the river and then that was the agal limpa project and that was one of the projects we did to clean the water and anyway so there's lots of different things but in overall thing my my thing is you know we got to take care of Mother Earth she takes care of us you know when people say to me oh we're going to save the planet I say you're that's such an ego thing you know as humans we think we're going to save anything the planets is in her own process of evolution this is a you know it's I mean dinosaurs were here before us and you know lur I mean so many different civilizations the planet will be fine that's what I always say I say please don't fool yourself I think we really saving ourselves we need to yeah I say there's no Sav we need re ourselves back yeah this is really about us protecting the resources and and taking care of what we really need for our survival because once we are gone the planet is going to regenerate I mean I've seen this over and over again the planet regenerates itself so quickly you know because it's it's just a very intelligent we need to learn from nature instead of like trying to control nature we need to just like take a humble pill and and learn from the Big Mama we've moved so far away from that and we do live in this dualistic mindset where we think there's you know our environments and then there's nature or there's us and that's outside um but really understanding that you're never out of nature as you as you said um I think it's the first point of trying to really deepen your relationship with the world in which you live we all live and share and I think when it comes to the Amazon like we all hear about deforestation and all the you know clearing that's going on for cattle grazing and the strip mining and all the stuff that you mentioned but it's an abstraction especially for you know people in North America like we know what's going on we know it's bad but I've never visited there like I've never seen it myself and you being Brazilian gives you kind of a deeper appreciation and understanding of the extent of it you know I think it's how people tell the story because I think it's a lot deeper than you know I think people like depending on the industry that wants to benefit from something that tell the story and they say okay this is what we're going to do is about the cing oh yeah it's so crazy a lot of NOS go in there and they say we're going to have an NGO because we're going to like protect Amazon but they're meantime they're the owners of the bigger paper company that comes from the Amazon they are just not you know what I mean so there it's not not all is as it seems no it's it's a very it's a wild wild west there and one of the biggest you know I've been there a few times and also done a lot of um just kind of like talking to people and understanding what happens there and a lot of the you know there's ancient Woods there and a lot of that goes to Europe so like what a lot of the the cattle for example is what they use to kind of occupy the land but what they're really after which is really valuable there is like gold and Min m you know the the rare medals the rare medals yeah the rare medals and the gold and all that stuff that's in there that's what interest this like you know the different um countries let's say they are not brail when they and because it's so corrupt unfortunately you know Brazil is very corrupt the politicians are very corrupt what happens is they sell those rights to those countries and then we have what we have and then the cattle like in the end they just kind of put them there because they have to occupy the land after they REM because they have to enter if you go there after they removed everything because they have to remove the value the value then they then they put all the cows there that's what they do so they remove the ancient wood they they remove the precious metals and and but they have to get there because if you fly over it it mean you're flying for hours over just a Green carpet so for you to have access to that you have to you can't just like clear cut because it grows so what they do to keep the the the forest from growing they just throw because it's very fertile the soil as soon as you cut because imagine that soil is been there like receiving all those back healthy bacteria from the leaves falling super fertile So within like three days you can Grass Grows Right and then in order for the trees not to keep growing because if you just leave abandon that's what's going to happen the birds are going to carry the seeds they're going to drop the seeds they're going to things are going to start growing again and then they won't have access you know so they kind of it's just like a cycle like but what is really after what they're really after it is the big stuff is the is the and and it's not unfortunately you know it's h it's so sad you know is greed mhm in the end of the day is greed and is greed by people that you know they don't have those natural resources where they are and and they understand the situation in Brazil and how corrupt the this the the 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their best interest from a wellness perspective I think the number one thing I feel is like monkey see monkey does right I think you have to be the example you have to leave it um cuz I think whatever you say is one thing and whatever you do you they need to kind they need to whatever you say whatever you do they have to be the same thing right sympatico yeah they have to be sympatico and um and that's what it is and and I think for the kids for my kids were were a lot easier because I was home a lot with them so I was you know taking them to school every day making their breakfast you know just having my Gardens at home growing the food so when the kids would come for play dates at the house you know my kids were grabbing like everything raw cucumbers carrots like green beans they were just grabbing it from the garden and like collecting things and putting in the basket it was like a game for them and it was like oh friends are coming over why are we going to grab for the for to Door picnic outside and then so they grew up in that way you know they they uh so it was easier for me to feed them healthier food and and and and explain to them you know we always compost it we had bees at our house um so you know they they were learning about you know when The Beekeeper would come and they explain you know how much be how much honey can you take and how much money how much honey do you leave for the bees and how does a the how does a queen bee work and all the so they were they're emotionally connected they were emotionally connected they were part of that like I was as a kid so um so for them is really natural and they were also homeschooled for the last three years um during the you know the whole pandemic thing I and we moved from Boston to Tampa so um it was a whole new world for them so I I homeschooled them and now they just went back to school but I have to tell you I see a huge difference especially because my son is 14 now so he wants to kind of push back this is what I'm getting at oh yeah well how old kid well they range from 28 to 16 and each one of there's four and each of them is different um but it's a delicate dance because you know we raised our kids similarly um but they reach a certain age and part of individuation and maturing is taking ownership for your own choices and understanding what you stand for and what you don't and in order to really Define that and hone that you have to go out and kind of push the envelope and try new things otherwise it's just something you're doing because that's the way you were raised and that's what your parents told you as opposed to really owning it for yourself and so so we have learned that you have to have the brains very loose and and let them go out and do what they want to do and control the environment at home but be you know very kind of nonplused if they go and make a choice that you wouldn't make or whatever and just be curious about it and allow them the space to do that and you know you hope they come back and you know do it the way you taught them to um and sometimes they do and sometimes they don't and again every one of them is different in our case but as they get to a certain point and especially you know when they're with peers and friends and they're in social situations those things they have to learn for themselves and you have to allow them to I think it's so interesting so you have to let go a little bit oh let go and let God yeah I tell myself that is like a mantra you know and and and I I I remind myself of like my mom let me leave home she emancipated me and I was leing in Japan at 14 and there was no cell phones like I call you know can you imagine doing that for one of your children right now no and actually you know what it's so funny because I was having a conversation with my son about that he um he was complaining you know I have chores in my house you know kids have to do their chores so set the table wash the dishes you know now I make a point you know I cook at you know they come from school I'm cooking you know they so one has to set the table whoever sets the table the other has to wash the dishes and there is like you have to clean your room you have to do the basic stuff you know my daughter is doing amazingly she loves it and she's like really good and very proud of herself mom look how good I cleaned the dishes like she's really good and she's washing herself she's not putting it in the machine she wants to learn how to really wash it and and and do it right and she's very focused on it my son is like always like why do I have to do this you know so actually we had like a breakthrough this Christmas this this whole holiday season because I said he says to me I'm going to leave home when I'm 18 mom and I don't know if I'm going to go to college you didn't go to college you didn't go to school I'm going to just leave home when I'm 18 and I'm going to do this and I'm going to do that I'm like okay that's great so you're going to leave in your own apartment and who's going to cook for you and who's going to wash your dishes and who's going to clean your clothes who's going to do that and he's like for a second he's like because you're not going to have a chef and like a you know like and he was thinking for a second and I say well this is why when mommy tells you to do those things at home you know is because I want to give you more tools for your tool boox because when you learn how to do those things and they become second nature to you then you don't even have to think about it you become empowered to do it for yourself you don't depend on anybody and that's nothing it's amazing to be able to do that I said you know what made me feel so like strong and capable when I left my home because my mom taught me how to do those things so when I left home and I was leaving by myself at 14 years old I was first at 13 at 14 I moved to Japan but because I was leaving in the mod's apartment I was the only person there who knew how to clean cook iron do absolutely everything in the house because my mom taught me and it was easy for me I didn't think it was a struggle I was happy to do it and I was happy to to do it for the other girls that didn't know how to do it but if you're going to be planning on leaving on your own at 18 who do you think is going to do all those things for you so all I'm telling you is like take advantage that mommy's here for you right now and I'm able to teach you all those things and you can do it at your time I'm not telling you like at this time you have to wash the dishes so let me just help you I'm going to create a list for you and you just have to do them and you can decide if you want to wash clothes once or twice a week you can decide if you want to wash the dishes right after dinner or before you go to bed whatever you want but if you learn how to do those things you're going to see how empowered you're going to feel and the more tools we can put like the more things like the simple things like that that you can learn and that you can equip your tool box to do you're just going to be just that much like capable and and and there's nothing more fulfilling than feeling like you're able to do stuff that you're capable and then he looked at me and he's like okay mom so when we get back home you give me that list and I'm going to do it I'm like I wow I was going to say like he actually he actually receiv that I I think I have a breakthrough I think I got a breakthrough with the hormones are raging like whatever mom you know storming off like you can get you can get that reaction too that was good good job don't you think that was a good thing but but I used but you see it was a moment that I used what he said because when he thought to himself that's true how am I going to do all that stuff I said you don't want to live in like a you know a messy stinky place that is not clean like you know you want to like have you know so you need to know how to do this stuff and I think all I I see like all the things that happen in life like that like different tools we acquire you know even the job that I you know my job like all the tools that I've acquired in this job all the things that I've learned to do um that I don't know when I'm going to use I use them for my job but maybe I'm going to they going to be useful like in 20 years from my life sure but you came from very different circumstances it's the it's the Peril of success right like you and and the kid's dad like worked very hard to achieve all of these things in life and now they're reared in you know like an insane degree of privilege and it becomes more difficult to instill that kind of work ethic into somebody who you know grows up that way I think you're correct I think it becomes a lot more difficult but I think goes back to the discipline and it goes back to priorities and I think it for me it becomes about what kind of you know I I feel like I'm their Guardian because we don't possess our children right I mean we just come here they come through us but they're as much as our teachers as we are they're teachers and we're constantly learning and teaching you know in every relationship in our life and and I feel that we get this moment in time which is very short in a way that we get to influence our children because then they go I mean look at my parents they had 14 years to influence me then I was out in the world and I never went back and I keep remembering like what are all the things that if they wouldn't have taught me those things where would I be today and I'm so grateful for them for for those lessons and I feel like yes I grew up in very different circumstances than my kids and it is a bit more challenging to have them you know make their bed and wash the dishes and clean their you know when I have a person that can do it too but I make a point of me doing it so then they learn that oh Mommy's doing the dinner Mommy is making the breakfast mommy is so they're like weel you have to model and I feel like it's a different kind of modeling is it is the type of modeling that I prefer it's it's the type of modeling that I find to be the important type of modeling because that's the you know I mean what's Mo the most important thing you're going to do in your life I feel like raising children is is by far the most challenging thing I've ever done and the most uh fulfilling at the same time and you know but I feel that if if I if I don't do that if I don't equip my children to be good capable assets you know for themselves in their lives if they're not going to be then I fail I I feel yeah you haven't done your job then I haven't done my job I mean I feel that's my job I mean that's a job I do to kind of make a living so I can like you know put foot on the table and have but my real job as as I think as a as a mom and I chose to be a mom so I have to show up for my kids and I feel like this things that my you know I think is really what shaped me and what made me who I am today was definitely the upbringing that I had and and what my parents how they guided me and I feel like that's really important so I make that a priority in my life to make sure that my kids are going to have even though they don't have those same needs you know to do those things because my mom didn't have a a person she could pay to come clean the house we had to you clean the bathroom you clean the you know it was like a list all of us have to share between us who's going to do what and we grew up that way and it was kind of fun because you know I was always I always love the cleaning part you know I love organizing and cleaning I feel like a clean house is a clean mind is like a what's out is in you know if like if everything is organized outside I can think um and I tell my kids that and I feel that um if I can really get them to do those simple things in life you know and and learn those things and teach them how to be self-sufficient and capable human beings I feel like I've done my job and then I can rest and then whatever else they do the choices they make if they choose to eat the food that I fed them when they were little if now they want to go eat you know whatever or I mean it's going to be what they're going to do you know they're going to choose their friends hopefully they they choose wisely because in the end of the day they're going to be the one dealing with the consequences of their actions and I always tell them like listen you know you're going to go out there and you're going to make the Cho whatever choice you make there are going to be consequences you're dealing with those consequences me this is your life and sometimes they need to they need to make those mistakes and face those consequences like we had I mean how many mistakes that I mean I have and those those experiences are formative like I'm sure if you look in the rear view mirror and think about the panic attacks that you were having on airplanes and your inability to get into an elevator and you know this desire to jump off your balcony on some level you wouldn't wish that experience on anybody but you probably wouldn't wna change your experience either because it's set in motion this whole sensibility and way of being that you now have and I think with kids they regardless of whether they hear you in the moment or whether they go out into the world and make a bunch of mistakes like they come back yeah and whatever you taught them it's in there and at some point when they're ready or whatever like they return to it and you know and and I think to to trust that it's very important and I also feel like because if you try to overly control it you're going to drive them away absolutely and and you know I think for me I keep going back to me as a kid and the trust my parents had in me to let me go and I wouldn't be who I am today if it wasn't for them trusting in me and for all the mistakes that I've made and then had to come the other side and figure out for myself so I think it's important to give our children the Dignity of Their Own process you know because we had a dignity you know we have to go through our own process to become who we are and I think as long as they know that we are there and what what is our values you know is like those things that are important what is what is that we stand for what's important for us you know as as as as a as a value as a core value as as as a being a good human being and a good person and if you thought that your children and and they and they got it in the end of the day they're going to go out there in the world and they're going to have to make their mistakes and I I think the best thing you can do for them it's is just be there for them whenever they they come back and if they want your help you know and I think it's it's hard because you want to protect them like you can put Bobble wrap on them so like nothing will touch them and they will be safe but in the end of the day that's unrealistic and it's like it doesn't work anyway you know what I like this idea you know there's a metaphor of the butterfly imagine the caterpillar as she's transforming into becoming the butterfly she's you know eating eating all the you know until she finally starts spinning into a cocoon and and then she has to like go through that whole stous process if you ever seen like you know they turn into GP yeah but they're like but it's exactly it's just and it's really kind of like hard to like when they're coming out it's like really awkward and it looks like they're very strenuous and very difficult so if you go in there and you try to help them come out you're going to them you're going to the butterfly and she won't be able to have the strength she needs struggle is the struggle is what crucial to the the growth and you have to give them the Dignity of their own process you have to be and I and I keep reminding myself I cannot take away that opportunity for them because my parents gave me the opportunity for me to go through my own challenges and I grew and and I want my kids to have that same opportunity because whoever they're going to become is going to be based on what their choice is and hopefully I gave them enough good examples and and and good um values where they would make the choices that is right for them you know what is it that you want people to understand or take away from the new book and and how you are modeling this lifestyle um whether it's dietary changes Lifestyle Changes uh movement practices how can somebody who is interested in kind of leveling up across the board begin the process of of making those changes in their life you know it's funny you know because when I decided to do a cookbook I'm the farthest thing there is from a chef let me tell you something I I am not a chef let me just like let's be honest you've got a private Chef in home that person is taking care of everything not anymore I used to you don't anymore no I don't I don't it's no the last two years I don't you're cooking your own meals yes I'm cooking my own meals yeah I I grew up there way and I want like I told you like my priority is showing my kids what I believe it's important for them and and and I can't I can't say oh this is important and then I have and I'm not doing it you know what I mean so it has to be cohesive right and and I think that for me um really being like living what I believe is very important and I was showing my kids that this is important to me like the only way I'm going to show them that is by doing that so yes I had chefs and this is how I learn how to cook a lot of the things a lot of the recipes in the book are like inspired by the things that I created with the chefs that I throughout the years I had the opportunity to you know to really work with Incredible people incredible Chef people that love food as much as I do because I love food um but was really an idea for me to look I can say go and meditate go and exercise you know I believe meditation I believe rest I believe um exercise I believe nutrition all of those things are extremely important for you to be able to take kind of ownership of your health and really take care of yourself and have and work on just having a more clear mind and just feeling more connected to yourself I think all of those things are different aspects of it but the reason about the cookbook is quite frankly I was seeing kids were coming to our house and in play dates and and moms will come and be like how did you get my kid to eat broccoli or roasted vegetables or and it was like so simple and I was like oh maybe we can share how to make some simple recipes that are super easy you can make it like in 10 minutes and you know moms some you know you just sometimes feel overwhelmed and I know because life is busy there's so so much going on so I was like how can I help in this way and also I feel like food is a perfect time for you to practice being present and mindful because you can eat like on a rush and not being present and the food have a one effect in your body or you can do something which is what I talk about in the book is like every time I look at my food not only the act of preparing your food there so much loves and you're touching the food and you're connecting with your food that's one thing but even if you're not the one cooking your food just to take a moment to bless your food to acknowledge that that is something that is alive that you're taking it and you're that's also your source of life you know so it's kind of like connecting to the food in that way I think it it does something because everything is energy so you're having a transfer of energy with something and with the intention that you're eating it has a different I I feel huge you know when I start doing that does make a difference how he has a different just being present and being connected to what you're doing having gratitude for that moment and you get to do that three times a day you know I mean now I have a juice once a day but I still blast my juice but it's just kind of like it's just this book what I would like to to to for people to take is like it can be really simple it doesn't have to be complicated to to eat healthy and really like if you have plans you know my mom taught me you know since I was a kid like no food waste so how can we organize our meals so can there's a big thing about like reducing waste yeah there for me that's huge and also like me planning like if you're going to buy because or you know food sourcing that's huge it's not about having something with a lot of condiments and a lot of stuff it's just like keep it simple but buying really great quality products like if you can do that and then instead of like because a lot of people are like oh and then you buy organic and then you throw it out because it's like you know it spoils much faster and I'm like yeah but if you have a meal planning and I and I teach that I kind of give some suggestions in the book like my mom did that I grew up like that because she didn't have time you know she was working all the time so she had like in the fridge like what we going to have for the whole week so she would go to the groceries and she would buy and then the things were allowed to the next day so you would always know what we were eating and things that wouldn't be eaten could be easily transferred for the next day and be made into the next organiz so that nothing spoils and you're so nothing spoils and you never had food waste because you're always taking it from one day to the next so is never wasting you always	telling you is like take advantage that mommy's here for you right now and I'm able to teach you all those things and you can do it at your time I'm not telling you like at this time you have to wash the dishes so let me just help you I'm going to create a list for you and you just have to do them and you can decide if you want to wash clothes once or twice a week you can decide if you want to wash the dishes right after dinner or before you go to bed whatever you want but if you learn how to do those things you're going to see how empowered you're going to feel and the more tools we can put like the more things like the simple things like that that you can learn and that you can equip your tool box to do you're just going to be just that much like capable and and and there's nothing more fulfilling than feeling like you're able to do stuff that you're capable and then he looked at me and he's like okay mom so when we get back home you give me that list and I'm going to do it I'm like I wow I was going to say like he actually he actually receiv that I I think I have a breakthrough I think I got a breakthrough with the hormones are raging like whatever mom you know storming off like	8	6	4	telling you is like take advantage that mommy's here for you right now and I'm able to teach you all those things and you can do it at your time I'm not telling you like at this time you have to wash the dishes so let me just help you I'm going to create a list for you and you just have to do them and you can decide if you want to wash clothes once or twice a week you can decide if you want to wash the dishes right after dinner or before you go to bed whatever you want but if you learn how to do those things you're going to see how empowered you're going to feel and the more tools we can put like the more things like the simple things like that that you can learn and that you can equip your tool box to do you're just going to be just that much like capable and and and there's nothing more fulfilling than feeling like you're able to do stuff that you're capable	okay mom so when we get back home you give me that list and I'm going to do it	8,4,8	6,2,5	8	4	8	6	2	5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjK5ahIgsHA	4,193	rjK5ahIgsHA	2024-03-25 00:00:00	the choices that you're making are really either supporting you or not straight from the pages of Victoria Secret please welcome jaelle bunin gazelle bunin gazelle has walked in nearly 500 fashion shows and great the covers of more than 1,200 different magazines on paper like you're perhaps highly unrelatable you know what it is it's a character that's the job I do to kind of make a living so I can like you know put foot on the table raising children is is by far the most challenging thing I've ever done it's a different kind of modeling is the type of modeling that I prefer food is a perfect time for you to practice being present and mindful because it can be really simple it doesn't have to be complicated to eat healthy nature is just like it's me instead of like trying to control nature we need to just like take a humble pill and and learn from the Big Mama [Music] today's episode is brought to you by the awesome organizations that make this show [Music] possible so nice to meet you nice to meet you too so excited to have you here today yes when this opportunity presented itself I was like of course I want to talk to Jazelle and then I had my own like sort of mini panic attack we're going to get into panic attacks I'm like what could I possibly talk to this person about the alltime great super model of all time everybody knows this on paper like you're perhaps highly unrelatable but then the more you dig into your story and the more I kind of learned about your Arc and your past and what brought you to this place there's so much that's deeply relatable and your kind of transformation story is remarkably similar to mine although you did yours at like 23 I was 40 um but there's so much in there so I thought it would be cool to kind of um talk a little bit about what it was like what happened and how you made these changes in your life because I think you're in this interesting new season right now where despite the fact that you've been this Wellness Advocate and wellness Warrior for a long time my sense is that there's a there's a more full Embrace of of that now with kind of how you see yourself and what's important to you a well thank you for the introduction you know the funny thing is I you know people's you know what I did for a living is something that kind of just happened to me at 14 years old you know it was it was like hey do you want to be a model and I thought oh I can help my family you know I can do make a living and and help you know I have five sisters and and all that so modeling to me is something that is um an opportunity that came along like I think in life you have these opportunities that either you take that train and then see where it goes you know and I never even believed that this was going to take me and I was going to be doing this for almost 30 years you know it's it's one of those things that I was like oh I'll start doing this job and you know send money home and help my sisters go through school and do all that and um and maybe in five years you know I'll get a house because I didn't even go to school you know I I I was emancipated at 14 yeah you were in Tokyo at 14 I was living in Japan without speaking English and J or Japanese and that's when I when I start learning the language of of of energy you know what I mean because you don't have to understand the language you just have to feel you know something there's a lot more that has been said without words you know sure so I start learning about that um but I think that I went through this journey of modeling which was something I thought was going to last five years and I was just going to help my family out for a little bit and it just kept going you know it just kept happening you know I I didn't even think you can have longevity in this career because it's not what I what I saw really around me happening um but you know I kept it kept working out so I kept doing it and it was kind of a Mindless thing you know when you got in the hamster wheel and I think we do that sometimes in life and you're so young you don't know and you Liv the fast life and all of that so in my early 20s I um developed you know anxiety and panic attacks and all that because you know when you drink a bottle of wine and that because you like I used to be a smoker so I smoke I can't even imagine I used to smoke it feels like a whole different life you know but um it was the late 90s and there was a lot of um drugs and fashion and all that so I thought I was saying just because I was like having some wine and smoking cigarettes everybody was doing way worse things than yeah I'm sure you've seen a lot I've seen a lot yeah that's a whole other show about that that's a whole other story but yeah so um you know so that was the beginning for me to start reconnecting with myself because I think when I was 14 and I got that train my only focus was like how can I be the best that I can do on this and and and that was my focus and and I didn't meure any sacrifice he was like if I had to work 360 days a year and I felt like I couldn't say no because people were giving me a chance and then I was like in this really overdrive uh and burn down my adrenals I found out later when I found this amazing natural Doctor Who told me like listen you don't have any more adrenal they're shut down because you burn them basically I'm like but I'm only 22 you know so um basically I had to change the habits that I you know smoking a pack of cigarettes drinking alcohol every day to myself down coffee all day to keep myself up and also going from you know one time zone to the next I was three days in Paris two days in London one day in New York going back to you know my life was in a living in a suitcase and of course your nervous system is going to freak out you know and the way I was eating it was very you know anything that was in front of me I was just like not mindful about anything you know I was just kind of um like a Workhorse and when that happen to me is when I you know I come from a family that is very my my grandmother had a tea for everything so we never had we were not the kind of you know you get sick let me see this herbal remedy that we you know so yeah you grew up in kind of a small village right in Brazil your grandmother was cultivating herbs and she was the person that everyone would go to for their remedy so you have this sort of background and connection you know with the Earth exactly that you know is kind of lingering in the back of your mind when you're just you know hammering nails and and you know drinking wine and living that life but you're young it's like that's kind of what your 20s are for kind of and you're you're on this like Jet Plane I mean figuratively and literally like your career's taking off on top of that a people pleasing tendency where you feel like you have to say yes to everything and you're just go go go go go yeah and and I think but that was a big wakeup call for me because I think sometimes you know you have to reach rock bottom and when I had that those anxiety and they start becoming like almost CRI because I couldn't get on planes he was just you know I was going to all these doctors and they were like you have to take this stuff and I was just afraid of taking anything because I've never taken anything you know I was a there was a t for for this there you know my grandmother wasn't there so finally you know I wasn't going to take any medication because just the idea of taking something I was like I was normal before how can I go back being what I was you know like I I I didn't have these issues so what's happening long story short I found this doctor I had to replace my habits it was that simple I had to replace these habits that had created the reality I was living at that moment which was you know um really killing me in in so many ways you know killing my spirit killing my and and I replace it with good habits so now instead of smoking cigarettes and having a mocha frappuccino in the morning I'll would go out and do breath work and go out for a run and you know I replace in one day I gave up everything because he he looked at me he said jelle he called me Adrenalina he says do you want to live and I said I do he's like so we going to CH change my diet and that's for the first time in my life that I realized that I I was really like the one who got myself there and I was the only person who could get myself out by the choices that I was making so I had to take full responsibility for what I had created but it was in my power only in my power to change that there were no doctors nobody who was going to save me I had to change um you know the choices I was making and I and I did that and it was incredible because after over a year and a half like really struggling with anxiety and panic attacks and all that within 3 months I was like I never had another incident and it was you know and and once you start meditating I mean at that point this was 20 years ago right it wasn't like people were talking about meditation and yoga any other that um it was just um you know when you sit in silence and you and you reflect which is what we don't really give ourselves time to do because the world is so fastpaced and everything is catching your attention is trying to throw you off your Center you know everything is so busy it's like an overload of information to have that space to go inside and reflect and look and really take a step back I think that was the biggest blessing of my life so really I think what could have killed me is what gave me a whole new life and it was amazing because since then like everything changed like I realized that food is my medicine I realized that I am the director of my own movie that I'm creating my reality based on the choices that I'm making but what I'm choosing to not the people I'm choosing to have around in my life but what type of energy what kind of thoughts I allow to what am I feeding you know what kind of thoughts am I so all of that so that became like a big um changing of seasons for me in my early 20s what were those first couple weeks like if you went completely cold turkey on all of these bad habits I think it was like a drug addict I never was a I guess I was a drug etic only legal drugs because I guess alcohol is a drug and so is cigarettes nicotine and all that and caffeine and all that but they're like socially accepted but I tell you that I had the worst migraine I mean I felt like the I mean maybe that's what a person who's going like you have gone to to rehab right so I'm I don't know what you felt I would love to hear but I for me it was like right I mean I don't know about that sub it's the only way I know how to do it though I don't understand how people kind of phase out of stuff like you have to for me you have to draw the line and step over it and it's going to suck and you're going to be uncomfortable for a while while um but you know that on the other side of that lies all of this opportunity and possibility um but uh and that's what happened to me I think there was that because what I knew I knew that what I was and what if you do what you've always done you're going to get what you've always gotten is that simple and what I realized at that moment that what I what I created for myself was not what I wanted I needed to a drastic change and then he was like draw the line stopped everything in one day and the migraines and all of that like the consequences of what I had done I had to deal with them you know it took me like two weeks I think I was like having the worst migraines just because I didn't know if it was the nicotine the caffeine the alcohol I don't know what it was but it was all of it together and um but then it was amazing because from that experience I I became so much stronger and I and there are lots of different things that happen in my life after that I feel like every time we get tested it's like the Super Mario you know like the little video game when you go to do the big boss like you go through all the phases and you go to level one the big boss is like one it's okay to defeat that one but then the second one is like a tough for big boss and then the third one is you know it's like it's life I feel like that's what life is you get like the new tools so you get equipped and then you go to the next challenge that is a bigger one and then is a bigger one I feel like that's why we're here you know to keep seeing how we can expand how much more we can to grow to evolve to expand to see how strong and how creative and how you know how can how much we can experience of all this wonder how did you how did you plug that into the fast-paced life of of your modeling career because it's one thing if you're living a more kind of grounded atome lifestyle where you can control your food and your environment a little bit better but when you're flying all over the world and you're on these sets and there's craft service and it's junk food like you have to be way ahead of the curve to prepare everything to have everything kind of organized for yourself because how do you you if you're in just hotels all over the place and you arrive at midnight like how are you getting your you know like how did so how did you manage all of that you have to be very discipline I think you know when I I did this book called lessons and um and it was like everything starts to discipline that was like my first chapter and that's what I believe you have to decide you have and then you have to have the discipline to follow through so once you realize that these choices that you are making are having a positive impact in your life you want to continue doing them you know what I mean you don't want to fall back and just something that it didn't feel good that's your past like you don't want to go back there again so you're going to stick to the plan like this is what's working and this is what made me feel good again so I'm going to stick to this and of course it's not 100% you have to be compassionate with yourself too and say you I'll be like you know life is hard as it is you need to bit yourself in the head sometimes if you go and you oh you know I had like um I was exhausted I had like a banana bread or something or I had you know but I think you realize that the choices that you're making are are really either supporting you or not you know supporting you living the life that making you feel good and living the life that you want and is taking to the direction where you want to go or not and then it's just kind of an easier choice to make right and then I feel like when I go to the jobs you know I got to the point in my life where people know how I eat and you know I can tell people like listen this is what I want I want you got extensive riter yeah I kind of you know because I was already working for so long so I I have you know I got to the I guess really the privilege to be able to to kind of say like this is the kind of things that I would like to eat so please at the job you know if you're working 10 12 hours in a studio can we have these things available you know what I mean so then it was easier to keep the food healthy you know um because I think that's so important and then just to say I feel like and then saying no to those things you know like coffee or alcohol or things that I was just so used to because I was still in that same environment the environment hadn't changed I had changed but all of that was around me still but then it was just a choice of saying you know I feel great and I haven't drank alcohol in over two years now too this is something you know I even when I went back drinking after it was very moderate you know I was still like like I would drink socially sometimes you know peer pressure sometimes like oh come on have a drink you know and then you like feel like especially in my world I mean everyone pretty much is like socially having a drink so I would be like okay I'll have a drink but then he got to a point that I was like and that was like 20 years later because it just happened over two years ago I was like I don't want to drink like I don't care what anyone thinks and I don't care if they have Fe peer pressure I'm going to have my Min tea my cam tea and if they want to drink I'm not making anyone feel bad about drinking they can do whatever they want this is their Temple you know this is my temple I get to choose and they shouldn't make me feel bad that I don't want to you know so um then I kind of stood up for myself I think that happens after your 40s like you care less about what other people think and um wait till you're 50 oh my God I can't wait for that I'm gonna like he's he's gonna be amazing but I think the thing you mentioned you mentioned like being directed and and and being kind of dedicated to your path and and and I feel like that's the underappreciated aspect of of understanding you and your career a lot of people arrive in New York City every single day with a similar dream or ambition that you had when you were a young person and you arrived there and a lot of those people are very beautiful you're beautiful but that doesn't tell the story of how you translated like an opportunity into the career that you had and I think between the lines there is an intense work ethic and a very intentional approach to what you were doing like how did you apply those skills like what is the differentiator between you and the career that you've enjoyed versus you know the other beautiful people who aren't enjoying the same kind of career you can't and you're not allowed to say luck or you're you know no I don't believe I don't believe in luck I don't believe in luck I believe in hard work and but I believe in um I mean I think discipline but I also believe that I always treated everyone the way I like to be treated and I've always was appreciative I have this immense sense of gratitude for just being there so even though you know people were like oh you know you you know when I was 19 I was like I want the model of you know the model of the year and everybody's like how does it feel to be it didn't really it doesn't matter to me because quite frankly I never saw myself as a motel it's just not something I didn't drink the Kool-Aid I didn't believe because I was a model or because I I became successful in this job like I was better than anybody I just and I didn't believe that I believe that I just got to learn that craft really well and I understood what the job entail and like I learned how to do the job really well but by no means is what defined me it's just something I did it's not it's not who I am I don't know if you know it's like I go there I had this opportunity at you know 13 14 years old when I finally left home and and and and St pursued this career that really I thought it was just really I did it for the money I did it because I was like what else am I going to do at 14 years old that I can help my family you know I don't have any other jobs that are offering me an opportunity so I'll take this one so for me it was really like a job so I never like it didn't kind of Define me I kind of did it my way like I never became like you know it was like oh it needs to be glamorous I was never glamorous I'm a jeans and t-shirt type of girl like I if I needed to go to parties or hang out with this type of people I never did any of that like I went there I did my job I did the best that I could I never was late in my life for my jobs like never showed up like late I was there before everyone I was there 100% you know I I I just wanted to make sure that if people were booking me and they they were trusting in me that I was going to show up and deliver you know and I think that's kind of what it was I did it my way you know and it didn't broke me kind of Cu I saw you know people in this business you know you can lose yourself because if you drink the Kool-Aid if you start thinking you know like you lose yourself in it I never lost myself it was just a job and it's still just a job I can't even believe I'm still doing it sometimes I go in and I do it you it's not it's not what I do full- time anymore but it's just one of those things that you know I got to do this I got to make a career out of it and got to make a great living and help my family and I I have wonderful you know I got to travel the world and learn different languages and and and all of that and that's how I see it I don't see it as a you know I don't see myself you're not defined by it you're not you're not caught up in in the kind of dark underbelly of that very strange world this whole world is like almost like a parallel reality for me you know what I mean if something is like a switch on button I go there I do my job I take my picture I turn it off I go home and I have the same friends I have my my family I'm very close with my family but I think you're very good at seeing opportunities when they arise and you tell a little story in in in the new book about being 14 and on route to Tokyo and your parents gave you your dad gave you a little bit of money that was intended for getting a cab from that's the first day arve in s Paulo and instead of using that money oh it was you were super young right so you had a little bit of money to take a tab and you had the presence of mind to say this money would be better spent buying some clothes so I can do better in my auditions or whatnot um which isn't like that's not normal like that's somebody who's thinking ahead who's planning long term who's understanding that they have an opportunity in front of them and trying to figure out how to make the most out of it with limited resources and I think that speaks to or says a lot about your sensibility or your perspective as a business person yeah I mean it's so interesting to see it that way I mean I for me at that moment in time you know I I I just felt like I did something else than that you know that was one of the things and now that you're saying that I actually did that throughout because I bought my first apartment when I was 19 years old and when everybody was buying you know designer bags all the models and you know like remember I didn't know I was going to last in this business I thought like I didn't go to school I didn't go to high school I didn't you know I I left I I went to work and whenever I go I go back I thought I was going to be a farmer or something because I just always love the land and but I I didn't think like you know like where am I going to go from here so I have to make sure that I have at least a place to live I'm a cancer so I want to have like a stable home and when I was 19 you know people start flying me first class because I was like the model of the year right saw all the clients now are paying me first class I was exchanging those tickets for Coach classes because I was every two three days in a different country and instead of paying um my you know a rent in an apartment I pay I put down a down payment for an apartment and then I was paying my mortgage instead of paying rent and you're 19 and I was 19 so I I own my first apartment as 19 years old it was like a in in New York City it was like facing a wall of another building mind you he was like a very apartment you know that does require some maturity and some long-term thinking well well because I just thought to myself like you know I don't know how long I'm going to stay here you know I i' I at least I have to have a place to live if I like I'm not going to live empty-handed you know what I mean like what do I care about a bag or like what is that going to give me it's not going to be a roof over my head I need to make sure that I have that I can spend in the right places but I think that sense came from my mother because we grew up you know my mother was a cashier in the bank my father had like lots of different jobs like he had a real estate job but he was you know my mom they literally we we were like really simple people and grew up in two bedrooms with six girls and and and money was all always tight so I learned how to is the same thing in the book is like how do you prepare how do you not waste food I mean everything is like I think in my life I was kind of like raised that way you know what I mean kind of plan ahead like for tomorrow so you make sure that you have like food for everyone like like we're going to reuse the meat we cook on the barbecue and we're going to put it in the rice we're going to have carera so we're going to have an abundant meal because we have the rest of the you know what I mean it's kind of like that it's like you put money in the bank so when you retire you have something to to live off when you can no longer work the same thing I feel about food like you eat the right food so when you're older you you're able to have the energy and your body is functioning because you made the right choices so for me it's the same thing you know it's kind of making like just being kind of what is necessary here like do I really need this what do I need more do I need a roof over my head or do I need this this bags and this stuff do I need to take a taxi when I arrive to the model apartment when I'm 14 even though I never been to the city or can I take the subway and save the money so I can get the clothes for the casting and maybe I can get a job it's like it's kind of thinking like with the resources that I have right now what is the smartest how is the smartest way to use them I guess if you're like me never without a water bottle let's get it right people allow me to rock your world with my new favorite toy that's actually not a toy at all it's a non-negotiable essential camel backs Podium steel 100% % leak proof water bottle emphasis on leak proof for all 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it's you know what it is it's a character I always call call it her because I think being a MTO what I understood as being a motto is to play a character in a silent movie you know you get to experience all these different charact all these different aspects of of of being a woman let's say because one designer wants you to be more androgynous you know one designer was you know I remember diding a Balin Saga campaign I was like they made me a boy I was like literally like a week I was like a man a boy and in one I was like the sexy Versace campaign like you know like with big hair and like you know pushup bra you know so it was kind of like I got to play from the the androgynous girl to the very sexy to the tomb boy like I got to you know I mean you should see I don't know if you ever saw my book the other one that was like the 20 years I did a 20 well I watched the video that you did where you kind of went through it and you were talking about what was going on with you with each of those photographs yeah so it's it's it's it's really about kind of playing these different roles but it's just instead of you talking like you would be in a movie you're just you got to make the image that picture that one capture image to to it's a performance art it's a performance art but it's such a weird world I know that like Alexander McQueen he was like he was really the Catalyst right he was the guy who gave me the chance you know he gave me the the chance but when you watch his shows or some of these other shows like the designs are are stunning and gorgeous but they're also totally inaccessible it's like who wears this does anybody is there anybody in the world that even wear I mean if you're Lady Gaga I guess or somebody like that but like yeah it's a fantasy and so it's curious like how does that translate into I guess it's just how you feel and how you think about a particular designer or a brand and not so much about directly selling those designs to the person who's going to the department store or the boutique right yeah they're not thinking I don't even understand the business model of the whole thing yeah I me neither to be honest with you but I think it's a really I mean I think it has changed a lot uh since I started like I see a big shift because I think before there was a lot more creativity there was allowed a lot more creativity I think you know McQueen or JN galano you know the shows and stuff like you were like in a world like sure and the photographers being rock stars themselves oh yeah and and it was a I think it was a moment in time where there was so much less about selling but it was much more about the the inspiration and the aspir aspiring you know the aspiration of creating like a fantasy and like a and it was a lot of fun then I have to say at that time because I would have been dead I wouldn't have survived it I would have gone all in I would have been at every after hours party it would have been a disaster you see I was in bed like studying my astrology books like by 10 you know that was me I was like by 10 I was like oh no I have to go I was like I have to start early so I can go to bed early so for me it was a a different thing but um you know but I guess for me I also fell very responsible because I didn't want to one of the The Guiding lights for me I really believe was my parents because I saw how hard they work and I didn't want to disappoint them so I think part of like me being so stay on the line was like I'm not disappointing my parents I don't care if they're not here they are going to know what I'm doing like I remember part of the reason why I got so freaked out about the McQueen show and they sent me out like without a top because I couldn't speak English and they didn't even do a feeding anyway so then I was I was like oh my God if my parents see this they're GNA make me go back home and then I you know what is it like when you go internet but there was no internet in 1997 19 it wasn't so thank God because they didn't even saw that otherwi they would have been like what what are you doing I be like I don't know and you have five siblings right I have five sisters I'm a middle child I have two older sisters and two younger sisters and I'm a twin MH in the middle so we like the the sandwich like the cheese in the sandwich being Brazilian uh you're connected to the Amazon and to climate change issues and you've done a lot in terms of your environmental advocacy and clean water initiatives talk a little bit about how that began and and what that looked like now you know I um I've always been a big um basically like a child of nature I always tell my children when they ask you know what's your religion they say Mom we don't go to church I say you know what you're in church every day I say I say what do I say when people ask what my what my religion is I say love is your religion and nature is your church that's your Cathedral that's the big church that's our Temple you know so you honor your temple you love your temple you CU that's the only reason why we are all alive because this whole ecosystem is making it possible you know to grow our food to give us to provide us with all the things we need to survive so U and that's how I grew up I felt that way and especially having a grandmother that everything was from the earth you know she grew everything she ate and and uh you know the Earth was giving us the herbs that we needed to like when we fell ill and and I grew up in that way so when you grew up in that way and you grew up running around bare feet you know I come from a small village and anytime you want to eat something you grab there was like a tangerine tree or like a orange tree or is a plum tree and you just go and pick up the fruit from the tree we never bought fruits from the supermarket you know you go either you had it in your backyard or your neighbor had it or the other neighbor you know somebody had the fruit he wanted to eat you just go grab it so I think when you leave with that connection to Nature you have a different appreciation it's like so I feel like nature is just like it's it's it's me like I think we are n you know we are that and I think this connection from nature for me is not something it's just something I've always known you know is how I grew up and so for me um taking care of which I love which is nature is natural um so the but the first time I realized there was really problems happening is when I went to actually spend some time uh with the indigenous people in shingu area of the Amazon in the 2004 and that's when the first time I realized you know pesticide what's what pesticides were doing where mining was doing how they were contaminating the rivers and basically all the indigenous tribes they were living and depending on the that water they were getting sick and even though they were living very wholesomely you know with nature and you know by the impact that the big farms and different Mining and all that stuff was having um was really um having a really terrible impact in their in their their livelihoods and and that's when the first time I was like I need to do something about it and that's when I started like I had a flipflop line at the time in Brazil and we gave a percentage you know to that's actually a funny story the the the indigenous people and I was like I wonder what they would do with this with this funds but it was like a group that helped indigenous in Brazil and the funny enough when I did when I turned 40 this was in 2004 so I was like 24 cut to when I'm 40 2020 I was 40 um I wanted to do something for my 40th birthday and I was like oh I want to plant some trees in the in in the Amazon and how we going to do it so we looked around for who can help us do that and we contacted the the people that are working with the indigenous people that we knew in in Brazil and they're like we have the largest seed bank in the Amazon and we started with the money with the whole program that you gave in 2004 that money that was for the sale of the flipflops now years later they had the largest seed bank of you know the indigenous they they they collected the larger seed bank and this is how with that whole group of people we basically planted over 300,000 trees in that area of the Amazon so that was like years later so that's just how funny how life goes but for me because I was so connected to nature and I always wanted to help and my dad always said you know water is the most important thing and of course I saw that with the indigenous people because that's how they were all getting sick because all the the you know residue of Mining and and and pesticides were going into their water in my little village we were having a lot of problems with agriculture as well where there was a lot of runoffs from Roundup and all the stuff that they use in agriculture all the pesticides and stuff and it was getting a lot of people sick so we actually did the AGA limpa program in 200 I think it was 20 the N or I don't remember when we started but it was like a long time ago and I funded it and my dad who's also a sociologist worked with the university and we and we basically regenerated the whole area of the river that was kind of you know getting the water to the city and we were able to clean it it took us like a few years to do it you know it was pretty simple because all we had to do I mean it was not simple my dad is the one who did the work it was simpler for me I just kind of funded it but he was there every day he had to work with I don't know how many farmers you had to take their pie of land and kind of grow the native species Forest you know the native Forest back so then the there's a buffer there was a buffer and then the root systems could could filtrate it before all that stuff would go into the river and then that was the agal limpa project and that was one of the projects we did to clean the water and anyway so there's lots of different things but in overall thing my my thing is you know we got to take care of Mother Earth she takes care of us you know when people say to me oh we're going to save the planet I say you're that's such an ego thing you know as humans we think we're going to save anything the planets is in her own process of evolution this is a you know it's I mean dinosaurs were here before us and you know lur I mean so many different civilizations the planet will be fine that's what I always say I say please don't fool yourself I think we really saving ourselves we need to yeah I say there's no Sav we need re ourselves back yeah this is really about us protecting the resources and and taking care of what we really need for our survival because once we are gone the planet is going to regenerate I mean I've seen this over and over again the planet regenerates itself so quickly you know because it's it's just a very intelligent we need to learn from nature instead of like trying to control nature we need to just like take a humble pill and and learn from the Big Mama we've moved so far away from that and we do live in this dualistic mindset where we think there's you know our environments and then there's nature or there's us and that's outside um but really understanding that you're never out of nature as you as you said um I think it's the first point of trying to really deepen your relationship with the world in which you live we all live and share and I think when it comes to the Amazon like we all hear about deforestation and all the you know clearing that's going on for cattle grazing and the strip mining and all the stuff that you mentioned but it's an abstraction especially for you know people in North America like we know what's going on we know it's bad but I've never visited there like I've never seen it myself and you being Brazilian gives you kind of a deeper appreciation and understanding of the extent of it you know I think it's how people tell the story because I think it's a lot deeper than you know I think people like depending on the industry that wants to benefit from something that tell the story and they say okay this is what we're going to do is about the cing oh yeah it's so crazy a lot of NOS go in there and they say we're going to have an NGO because we're going to like protect Amazon but they're meantime they're the owners of the bigger paper company that comes from the Amazon they are just not you know what I mean so there it's not not all is as it seems no it's it's a very it's a wild wild west there and one of the biggest you know I've been there a few times and also done a lot of um just kind of like talking to people and understanding what happens there and a lot of the you know there's ancient Woods there and a lot of that goes to Europe so like what a lot of the the cattle for example is what they use to kind of occupy the land but what they're really after which is really valuable there is like gold and Min m you know the the rare medals the rare medals yeah the rare medals and the gold and all that stuff that's in there that's what interest this like you know the different um countries let's say they are not brail when they and because it's so corrupt unfortunately you know Brazil is very corrupt the politicians are very corrupt what happens is they sell those rights to those countries and then we have what we have and then the cattle like in the end they just kind of put them there because they have to occupy the land after they REM because they have to enter if you go there after they removed everything because they have to remove the value the value then they then they put all the cows there that's what they do so they remove the ancient wood they they remove the precious metals and and but they have to get there because if you fly over it it mean you're flying for hours over just a Green carpet so for you to have access to that you have to you can't just like clear cut because it grows so what they do to keep the the the forest from growing they just throw because it's very fertile the soil as soon as you cut because imagine that soil is been there like receiving all those back healthy bacteria from the leaves falling super fertile So within like three days you can Grass Grows Right and then in order for the trees not to keep growing because if you just leave abandon that's what's going to happen the birds are going to carry the seeds they're going to drop the seeds they're going to things are going to start growing again and then they won't have access you know so they kind of it's just like a cycle like but what is really after what they're really after it is the big stuff is the is the and and it's not unfortunately you know it's h it's so sad you know is greed mhm in the end of the day is greed and is greed by people that you know they don't have those natural resources where they are and and they understand the situation in Brazil and how corrupt the this the the 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their best interest from a wellness perspective I think the number one thing I feel is like monkey see monkey does right I think you have to be the example you have to leave it um cuz I think whatever you say is one thing and whatever you do you they need to kind they need to whatever you say whatever you do they have to be the same thing right sympatico yeah they have to be sympatico and um and that's what it is and and I think for the kids for my kids were were a lot easier because I was home a lot with them so I was you know taking them to school every day making their breakfast you know just having my Gardens at home growing the food so when the kids would come for play dates at the house you know my kids were grabbing like everything raw cucumbers carrots like green beans they were just grabbing it from the garden and like collecting things and putting in the basket it was like a game for them and it was like oh friends are coming over why are we going to grab for the for to Door picnic outside and then so they grew up in that way you know they they uh so it was easier for me to feed them healthier food and and and and explain to them you know we always compost it we had bees at our house um so you know they they were learning about you know when The Beekeeper would come and they explain you know how much be how much honey can you take and how much money how much honey do you leave for the bees and how does a the how does a queen bee work and all the so they were they're emotionally connected they were emotionally connected they were part of that like I was as a kid so um so for them is really natural and they were also homeschooled for the last three years um during the you know the whole pandemic thing I and we moved from Boston to Tampa so um it was a whole new world for them so I I homeschooled them and now they just went back to school but I have to tell you I see a huge difference especially because my son is 14 now so he wants to kind of push back this is what I'm getting at oh yeah well how old kid well they range from 28 to 16 and each one of there's four and each of them is different um but it's a delicate dance because you know we raised our kids similarly um but they reach a certain age and part of individuation and maturing is taking ownership for your own choices and understanding what you stand for and what you don't and in order to really Define that and hone that you have to go out and kind of push the envelope and try new things otherwise it's just something you're doing because that's the way you were raised and that's what your parents told you as opposed to really owning it for yourself and so so we have learned that you have to have the brains very loose and and let them go out and do what they want to do and control the environment at home but be you know very kind of nonplused if they go and make a choice that you wouldn't make or whatever and just be curious about it and allow them the space to do that and you know you hope they come back and you know do it the way you taught them to um and sometimes they do and sometimes they don't and again every one of them is different in our case but as they get to a certain point and especially you know when they're with peers and friends and they're in social situations those things they have to learn for themselves and you have to allow them to I think it's so interesting so you have to let go a little bit oh let go and let God yeah I tell myself that is like a mantra you know and and and I I I remind myself of like my mom let me leave home she emancipated me and I was leing in Japan at 14 and there was no cell phones like I call you know can you imagine doing that for one of your children right now no and actually you know what it's so funny because I was having a conversation with my son about that he um he was complaining you know I have chores in my house you know kids have to do their chores so set the table wash the dishes you know now I make a point you know I cook at you know they come from school I'm cooking you know they so one has to set the table whoever sets the table the other has to wash the dishes and there is like you have to clean your room you have to do the basic stuff you know my daughter is doing amazingly she loves it and she's like really good and very proud of herself mom look how good I cleaned the dishes like she's really good and she's washing herself she's not putting it in the machine she wants to learn how to really wash it and and and do it right and she's very focused on it my son is like always like why do I have to do this you know so actually we had like a breakthrough this Christmas this this whole holiday season because I said he says to me I'm going to leave home when I'm 18 mom and I don't know if I'm going to go to college you didn't go to college you didn't go to school I'm going to just leave home when I'm 18 and I'm going to do this and I'm going to do that I'm like okay that's great so you're going to leave in your own apartment and who's going to cook for you and who's going to wash your dishes and who's going to clean your clothes who's going to do that and he's like for a second he's like because you're not going to have a chef and like a you know like and he was thinking for a second and I say well this is why when mommy tells you to do those things at home you know is because I want to give you more tools for your tool boox because when you learn how to do those things and they become second nature to you then you don't even have to think about it you become empowered to do it for yourself you don't depend on anybody and that's nothing it's amazing to be able to do that I said you know what made me feel so like strong and capable when I left my home because my mom taught me how to do those things so when I left home and I was leaving by myself at 14 years old I was first at 13 at 14 I moved to Japan but because I was leaving in the mod's apartment I was the only person there who knew how to clean cook iron do absolutely everything in the house because my mom taught me and it was easy for me I didn't think it was a struggle I was happy to do it and I was happy to to do it for the other girls that didn't know how to do it but if you're going to be planning on leaving on your own at 18 who do you think is going to do all those things for you so all I'm telling you is like take advantage that mommy's here for you right now and I'm able to teach you all those things and you can do it at your time I'm not telling you like at this time you have to wash the dishes so let me just help you I'm going to create a list for you and you just have to do them and you can decide if you want to wash clothes once or twice a week you can decide if you want to wash the dishes right after dinner or before you go to bed whatever you want but if you learn how to do those things you're going to see how empowered you're going to feel and the more tools we can put like the more things like the simple things like that that you can learn and that you can equip your tool box to do you're just going to be just that much like capable and and and there's nothing more fulfilling than feeling like you're able to do stuff that you're capable and then he looked at me and he's like okay mom so when we get back home you give me that list and I'm going to do it I'm like I wow I was going to say like he actually he actually receiv that I I think I have a breakthrough I think I got a breakthrough with the hormones are raging like whatever mom you know storming off like you can get you can get that reaction too that was good good job don't you think that was a good thing but but I used but you see it was a moment that I used what he said because when he thought to himself that's true how am I going to do all that stuff I said you don't want to live in like a you know a messy stinky place that is not clean like you know you want to like have you know so you need to know how to do this stuff and I think all I I see like all the things that happen in life like that like different tools we acquire you know even the job that I you know my job like all the tools that I've acquired in this job all the things that I've learned to do um that I don't know when I'm going to use I use them for my job but maybe I'm going to they going to be useful like in 20 years from my life sure but you came from very different circumstances it's the it's the Peril of success right like you and and the kid's dad like worked very hard to achieve all of these things in life and now they're reared in you know like an insane degree of privilege and it becomes more difficult to instill that kind of work ethic into somebody who you know grows up that way I think you're correct I think it becomes a lot more difficult but I think goes back to the discipline and it goes back to priorities and I think it for me it becomes about what kind of you know I I feel like I'm their Guardian because we don't possess our children right I mean we just come here they come through us but they're as much as our teachers as we are they're teachers and we're constantly learning and teaching you know in every relationship in our life and and I feel that we get this moment in time which is very short in a way that we get to influence our children because then they go I mean look at my parents they had 14 years to influence me then I was out in the world and I never went back and I keep remembering like what are all the things that if they wouldn't have taught me those things where would I be today and I'm so grateful for them for for those lessons and I feel like yes I grew up in very different circumstances than my kids and it is a bit more challenging to have them you know make their bed and wash the dishes and clean their you know when I have a person that can do it too but I make a point of me doing it so then they learn that oh Mommy's doing the dinner Mommy is making the breakfast mommy is so they're like weel you have to model and I feel like it's a different kind of modeling is it is the type of modeling that I prefer it's it's the type of modeling that I find to be the important type of modeling because that's the you know I mean what's Mo the most important thing you're going to do in your life I feel like raising children is is by far the most challenging thing I've ever done and the most uh fulfilling at the same time and you know but I feel that if if I if I don't do that if I don't equip my children to be good capable assets you know for themselves in their lives if they're not going to be then I fail I I feel yeah you haven't done your job then I haven't done my job I mean I feel that's my job I mean that's a job I do to kind of make a living so I can like you know put foot on the table and have but my real job as as I think as a as a mom and I chose to be a mom so I have to show up for my kids and I feel like this things that my you know I think is really what shaped me and what made me who I am today was definitely the upbringing that I had and and what my parents how they guided me and I feel like that's really important so I make that a priority in my life to make sure that my kids are going to have even though they don't have those same needs you know to do those things because my mom didn't have a a person she could pay to come clean the house we had to you clean the bathroom you clean the you know it was like a list all of us have to share between us who's going to do what and we grew up that way and it was kind of fun because you know I was always I always love the cleaning part you know I love organizing and cleaning I feel like a clean house is a clean mind is like a what's out is in you know if like if everything is organized outside I can think um and I tell my kids that and I feel that um if I can really get them to do those simple things in life you know and and learn those things and teach them how to be self-sufficient and capable human beings I feel like I've done my job and then I can rest and then whatever else they do the choices they make if they choose to eat the food that I fed them when they were little if now they want to go eat you know whatever or I mean it's going to be what they're going to do you know they're going to choose their friends hopefully they they choose wisely because in the end of the day they're going to be the one dealing with the consequences of their actions and I always tell them like listen you know you're going to go out there and you're going to make the Cho whatever choice you make there are going to be consequences you're dealing with those consequences me this is your life and sometimes they need to they need to make those mistakes and face those consequences like we had I mean how many mistakes that I mean I have and those those experiences are formative like I'm sure if you look in the rear view mirror and think about the panic attacks that you were having on airplanes and your inability to get into an elevator and you know this desire to jump off your balcony on some level you wouldn't wish that experience on anybody but you probably wouldn't wna change your experience either because it's set in motion this whole sensibility and way of being that you now have and I think with kids they regardless of whether they hear you in the moment or whether they go out into the world and make a bunch of mistakes like they come back yeah and whatever you taught them it's in there and at some point when they're ready or whatever like they return to it and you know and and I think to to trust that it's very important and I also feel like because if you try to overly control it you're going to drive them away absolutely and and you know I think for me I keep going back to me as a kid and the trust my parents had in me to let me go and I wouldn't be who I am today if it wasn't for them trusting in me and for all the mistakes that I've made and then had to come the other side and figure out for myself so I think it's important to give our children the Dignity of Their Own process you know because we had a dignity you know we have to go through our own process to become who we are and I think as long as they know that we are there and what what is our values you know is like those things that are important what is what is that we stand for what's important for us you know as as as as a as a value as a core value as as as a being a good human being and a good person and if you thought that your children and and they and they got it in the end of the day they're going to go out there in the world and they're going to have to make their mistakes and I I think the best thing you can do for them it's is just be there for them whenever they they come back and if they want your help you know and I think it's it's hard because you want to protect them like you can put Bobble wrap on them so like nothing will touch them and they will be safe but in the end of the day that's unrealistic and it's like it doesn't work anyway you know what I like this idea you know there's a metaphor of the butterfly imagine the caterpillar as she's transforming into becoming the butterfly she's you know eating eating all the you know until she finally starts spinning into a cocoon and and then she has to like go through that whole stous process if you ever seen like you know they turn into GP yeah but they're like but it's exactly it's just and it's really kind of like hard to like when they're coming out it's like really awkward and it looks like they're very strenuous and very difficult so if you go in there and you try to help them come out you're going to them you're going to the butterfly and she won't be able to have the strength she needs struggle is the struggle is what crucial to the the growth and you have to give them the Dignity of their own process you have to be and I and I keep reminding myself I cannot take away that opportunity for them because my parents gave me the opportunity for me to go through my own challenges and I grew and and I want my kids to have that same opportunity because whoever they're going to become is going to be based on what their choice is and hopefully I gave them enough good examples and and and good um values where they would make the choices that is right for them you know what is it that you want people to understand or take away from the new book and and how you are modeling this lifestyle um whether it's dietary changes Lifestyle Changes uh movement practices how can somebody who is interested in kind of leveling up across the board begin the process of of making those changes in their life you know it's funny you know because when I decided to do a cookbook I'm the farthest thing there is from a chef let me tell you something I I am not a chef let me just like let's be honest you've got a private Chef in home that person is taking care of everything not anymore I used to you don't anymore no I don't I don't it's no the last two years I don't you're cooking your own meals yes I'm cooking my own meals yeah I I grew up there way and I want like I told you like my priority is showing my kids what I believe it's important for them and and and I can't I can't say oh this is important and then I have and I'm not doing it you know what I mean so it has to be cohesive right and and I think that for me um really being like living what I believe is very important and I was showing my kids that this is important to me like the only way I'm going to show them that is by doing that so yes I had chefs and this is how I learn how to cook a lot of the things a lot of the recipes in the book are like inspired by the things that I created with the chefs that I throughout the years I had the opportunity to you know to really work with Incredible people incredible Chef people that love food as much as I do because I love food um but was really an idea for me to look I can say go and meditate go and exercise you know I believe meditation I believe rest I believe um exercise I believe nutrition all of those things are extremely important for you to be able to take kind of ownership of your health and really take care of yourself and have and work on just having a more clear mind and just feeling more connected to yourself I think all of those things are different aspects of it but the reason about the cookbook is quite frankly I was seeing kids were coming to our house and in play dates and and moms will come and be like how did you get my kid to eat broccoli or roasted vegetables or and it was like so simple and I was like oh maybe we can share how to make some simple recipes that are super easy you can make it like in 10 minutes and you know moms some you know you just sometimes feel overwhelmed and I know because life is busy there's so so much going on so I was like how can I help in this way and also I feel like food is a perfect time for you to practice being present and mindful because you can eat like on a rush and not being present and the food have a one effect in your body or you can do something which is what I talk about in the book is like every time I look at my food not only the act of preparing your food there so much loves and you're touching the food and you're connecting with your food that's one thing but even if you're not the one cooking your food just to take a moment to bless your food to acknowledge that that is something that is alive that you're taking it and you're that's also your source of life you know so it's kind of like connecting to the food in that way I think it it does something because everything is energy so you're having a transfer of energy with something and with the intention that you're eating it has a different I I feel huge you know when I start doing that does make a difference how he has a different just being present and being connected to what you're doing having gratitude for that moment and you get to do that three times a day you know I mean now I have a juice once a day but I still blast my juice but it's just kind of like it's just this book what I would like to to to for people to take is like it can be really simple it doesn't have to be complicated to to eat healthy and really like if you have plans you know my mom taught me you know since I was a kid like no food waste so how can we organize our meals so can there's a big thing about like reducing waste yeah there for me that's huge and also like me planning like if you're going to buy because or you know food sourcing that's huge it's not about having something with a lot of condiments and a lot of stuff it's just like keep it simple but buying really great quality products like if you can do that and then instead of like because a lot of people are like oh and then you buy organic and then you throw it out because it's like you know it spoils much faster and I'm like yeah but if you have a meal planning and I and I teach that I kind of give some suggestions in the book like my mom did that I grew up like that because she didn't have time you know she was working all the time so she had like in the fridge like what we going to have for the whole week so she would go to the groceries and she would buy and then the things were allowed to the next day so you would always know what we were eating and things that wouldn't be eaten could be easily transferred for the next day and be made into the next organiz so that nothing spoils and you're so nothing spoils and you never had food waste because you're always taking it from one day to the next so is never wasting you always	you can get you can get that reaction too that was good good job don't you think that was a good thing but but I used but you see it was a moment that I used what he said because when he thought to himself that's true how am I going to do all that stuff I said you don't want to live in like a you know a messy stinky place that is not clean like you know you want to like have you know so you need to know how to do this stuff and I think all I I see like all the things that happen in life like that like different tools we acquire you know even the job that I you know my job like all the tools that I've acquired in this job all the things that I've learned to do um that I don't know when I'm going to use I use them for my job but maybe I'm going to they going to be useful like in 20 years from my life sure but you came from very different circumstances it's the it's the Peril of success right like you and and the kid's dad like worked very hard to achieve all of these things in life and now they're reared in you know like an insane degree of privilege and it becomes more difficult to instill that kind of work ethic into somebody who you know grows up that way I	8	4	6	you can get that reaction too that was good good job don't you think that was a good thing but but I used but you see it was a moment that I used what he said because when he thought to himself that's true how am I going to do all that stuff I said you don't want to live in like a you know a messy stinky place that is not clean like you know you want to like have you know so you need to know how to do this stuff and I think all I I see like all the things that happen in life like that like different tools we acquire you know even the job that I you know my job like all the tools that I've acquired in this job all the things that I've learned to do um that I don't know when I'm going to use I use them for my job but maybe I'm going to they going to be useful like in 20 years from my life	sure but you came from very different circumstances it's the it's the Peril of success right like you and and the kid's dad like worked very hard to achieve all of these things in life and now they're reared in you know like an insane degree of privilege and it becomes more difficult to instill that kind of work ethic 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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjK5ahIgsHA	4,193	rjK5ahIgsHA	2024-03-25 00:00:00	the choices that you're making are really either supporting you or not straight from the pages of Victoria Secret please welcome jaelle bunin gazelle bunin gazelle has walked in nearly 500 fashion shows and great the covers of more than 1,200 different magazines on paper like you're perhaps highly unrelatable you know what it is it's a character that's the job I do to kind of make a living so I can like you know put foot on the table raising children is is by far the most challenging thing I've ever done it's a different kind of modeling is the type of modeling that I prefer food is a perfect time for you to practice being present and mindful because it can be really simple it doesn't have to be complicated to eat healthy nature is just like it's me instead of like trying to control nature we need to just like take a humble pill and and learn from the Big Mama [Music] today's episode is brought to you by the awesome organizations that make this show [Music] possible so nice to meet you nice to meet you too so excited to have you here today yes when this opportunity presented itself I was like of course I want to talk to Jazelle and then I had my own like sort of mini panic attack we're going to get into panic attacks I'm like what could I possibly talk to this person about the alltime great super model of all time everybody knows this on paper like you're perhaps highly unrelatable but then the more you dig into your story and the more I kind of learned about your Arc and your past and what brought you to this place there's so much that's deeply relatable and your kind of transformation story is remarkably similar to mine although you did yours at like 23 I was 40 um but there's so much in there so I thought it would be cool to kind of um talk a little bit about what it was like what happened and how you made these changes in your life because I think you're in this interesting new season right now where despite the fact that you've been this Wellness Advocate and wellness Warrior for a long time my sense is that there's a there's a more full Embrace of of that now with kind of how you see yourself and what's important to you a well thank you for the introduction you know the funny thing is I you know people's you know what I did for a living is something that kind of just happened to me at 14 years old you know it was it was like hey do you want to be a model and I thought oh I can help my family you know I can do make a living and and help you know I have five sisters and and all that so modeling to me is something that is um an opportunity that came along like I think in life you have these opportunities that either you take that train and then see where it goes you know and I never even believed that this was going to take me and I was going to be doing this for almost 30 years you know it's it's one of those things that I was like oh I'll start doing this job and you know send money home and help my sisters go through school and do all that and um and maybe in five years you know I'll get a house because I didn't even go to school you know I I I was emancipated at 14 yeah you were in Tokyo at 14 I was living in Japan without speaking English and J or Japanese and that's when I when I start learning the language of of of energy you know what I mean because you don't have to understand the language you just have to feel you know something there's a lot more that has been said without words you know sure so I start learning about that um but I think that I went through this journey of modeling which was something I thought was going to last five years and I was just going to help my family out for a little bit and it just kept going you know it just kept happening you know I I didn't even think you can have longevity in this career because it's not what I what I saw really around me happening um but you know I kept it kept working out so I kept doing it and it was kind of a Mindless thing you know when you got in the hamster wheel and I think we do that sometimes in life and you're so young you don't know and you Liv the fast life and all of that so in my early 20s I um developed you know anxiety and panic attacks and all that because you know when you drink a bottle of wine and that because you like I used to be a smoker so I smoke I can't even imagine I used to smoke it feels like a whole different life you know but um it was the late 90s and there was a lot of um drugs and fashion and all that so I thought I was saying just because I was like having some wine and smoking cigarettes everybody was doing way worse things than yeah I'm sure you've seen a lot I've seen a lot yeah that's a whole other show about that that's a whole other story but yeah so um you know so that was the beginning for me to start reconnecting with myself because I think when I was 14 and I got that train my only focus was like how can I be the best that I can do on this and and and that was my focus and and I didn't meure any sacrifice he was like if I had to work 360 days a year and I felt like I couldn't say no because people were giving me a chance and then I was like in this really overdrive uh and burn down my adrenals I found out later when I found this amazing natural Doctor Who told me like listen you don't have any more adrenal they're shut down because you burn them basically I'm like but I'm only 22 you know so um basically I had to change the habits that I you know smoking a pack of cigarettes drinking alcohol every day to myself down coffee all day to keep myself up and also going from you know one time zone to the next I was three days in Paris two days in London one day in New York going back to you know my life was in a living in a suitcase and of course your nervous system is going to freak out you know and the way I was eating it was very you know anything that was in front of me I was just like not mindful about anything you know I was just kind of um like a Workhorse and when that happen to me is when I you know I come from a family that is very my my grandmother had a tea for everything so we never had we were not the kind of you know you get sick let me see this herbal remedy that we you know so yeah you grew up in kind of a small village right in Brazil your grandmother was cultivating herbs and she was the person that everyone would go to for their remedy so you have this sort of background and connection you know with the Earth exactly that you know is kind of lingering in the back of your mind when you're just you know hammering nails and and you know drinking wine and living that life but you're young it's like that's kind of what your 20s are for kind of and you're you're on this like Jet Plane I mean figuratively and literally like your career's taking off on top of that a people pleasing tendency where you feel like you have to say yes to everything and you're just go go go go go yeah and and I think but that was a big wakeup call for me because I think sometimes you know you have to reach rock bottom and when I had that those anxiety and they start becoming like almost CRI because I couldn't get on planes he was just you know I was going to all these doctors and they were like you have to take this stuff and I was just afraid of taking anything because I've never taken anything you know I was a there was a t for for this there you know my grandmother wasn't there so finally you know I wasn't going to take any medication because just the idea of taking something I was like I was normal before how can I go back being what I was you know like I I I didn't have these issues so what's happening long story short I found this doctor I had to replace my habits it was that simple I had to replace these habits that had created the reality I was living at that moment which was you know um really killing me in in so many ways you know killing my spirit killing my and and I replace it with good habits so now instead of smoking cigarettes and having a mocha frappuccino in the morning I'll would go out and do breath work and go out for a run and you know I replace in one day I gave up everything because he he looked at me he said jelle he called me Adrenalina he says do you want to live and I said I do he's like so we going to CH change my diet and that's for the first time in my life that I realized that I I was really like the one who got myself there and I was the only person who could get myself out by the choices that I was making so I had to take full responsibility for what I had created but it was in my power only in my power to change that there were no doctors nobody who was going to save me I had to change um you know the choices I was making and I and I did that and it was incredible because after over a year and a half like really struggling with anxiety and panic attacks and all that within 3 months I was like I never had another incident and it was you know and and once you start meditating I mean at that point this was 20 years ago right it wasn't like people were talking about meditation and yoga any other that um it was just um you know when you sit in silence and you and you reflect which is what we don't really give ourselves time to do because the world is so fastpaced and everything is catching your attention is trying to throw you off your Center you know everything is so busy it's like an overload of information to have that space to go inside and reflect and look and really take a step back I think that was the biggest blessing of my life so really I think what could have killed me is what gave me a whole new life and it was amazing because since then like everything changed like I realized that food is my medicine I realized that I am the director of my own movie that I'm creating my reality based on the choices that I'm making but what I'm choosing to not the people I'm choosing to have around in my life but what type of energy what kind of thoughts I allow to what am I feeding you know what kind of thoughts am I so all of that so that became like a big um changing of seasons for me in my early 20s what were those first couple weeks like if you went completely cold turkey on all of these bad habits I think it was like a drug addict I never was a I guess I was a drug etic only legal drugs because I guess alcohol is a drug and so is cigarettes nicotine and all that and caffeine and all that but they're like socially accepted but I tell you that I had the worst migraine I mean I felt like the I mean maybe that's what a person who's going like you have gone to to rehab right so I'm I don't know what you felt I would love to hear but I for me it was like right I mean I don't know about that sub it's the only way I know how to do it though I don't understand how people kind of phase out of stuff like you have to for me you have to draw the line and step over it and it's going to suck and you're going to be uncomfortable for a while while um but you know that on the other side of that lies all of this opportunity and possibility um but uh and that's what happened to me I think there was that because what I knew I knew that what I was and what if you do what you've always done you're going to get what you've always gotten is that simple and what I realized at that moment that what I what I created for myself was not what I wanted I needed to a drastic change and then he was like draw the line stopped everything in one day and the migraines and all of that like the consequences of what I had done I had to deal with them you know it took me like two weeks I think I was like having the worst migraines just because I didn't know if it was the nicotine the caffeine the alcohol I don't know what it was but it was all of it together and um but then it was amazing because from that experience I I became so much stronger and I and there are lots of different things that happen in my life after that I feel like every time we get tested it's like the Super Mario you know like the little video game when you go to do the big boss like you go through all the phases and you go to level one the big boss is like one it's okay to defeat that one but then the second one is like a tough for big boss and then the third one is you know it's like it's life I feel like that's what life is you get like the new tools so you get equipped and then you go to the next challenge that is a bigger one and then is a bigger one I feel like that's why we're here you know to keep seeing how we can expand how much more we can to grow to evolve to expand to see how strong and how creative and how you know how can how much we can experience of all this wonder how did you how did you plug that into the fast-paced life of of your modeling career because it's one thing if you're living a more kind of grounded atome lifestyle where you can control your food and your environment a little bit better but when you're flying all over the world and you're on these sets and there's craft service and it's junk food like you have to be way ahead of the curve to prepare everything to have everything kind of organized for yourself because how do you you if you're in just hotels all over the place and you arrive at midnight like how are you getting your you know like how did so how did you manage all of that you have to be very discipline I think you know when I I did this book called lessons and um and it was like everything starts to discipline that was like my first chapter and that's what I believe you have to decide you have and then you have to have the discipline to follow through so once you realize that these choices that you are making are having a positive impact in your life you want to continue doing them you know what I mean you don't want to fall back and just something that it didn't feel good that's your past like you don't want to go back there again so you're going to stick to the plan like this is what's working and this is what made me feel good again so I'm going to stick to this and of course it's not 100% you have to be compassionate with yourself too and say you I'll be like you know life is hard as it is you need to bit yourself in the head sometimes if you go and you oh you know I had like um I was exhausted I had like a banana bread or something or I had you know but I think you realize that the choices that you're making are are really either supporting you or not you know supporting you living the life that making you feel good and living the life that you want and is taking to the direction where you want to go or not and then it's just kind of an easier choice to make right and then I feel like when I go to the jobs you know I got to the point in my life where people know how I eat and you know I can tell people like listen this is what I want I want you got extensive riter yeah I kind of you know because I was already working for so long so I I have you know I got to the I guess really the privilege to be able to to kind of say like this is the kind of things that I would like to eat so please at the job you know if you're working 10 12 hours in a studio can we have these things available you know what I mean so then it was easier to keep the food healthy you know um because I think that's so important and then just to say I feel like and then saying no to those things you know like coffee or alcohol or things that I was just so used to because I was still in that same environment the environment hadn't changed I had changed but all of that was around me still but then it was just a choice of saying you know I feel great and I haven't drank alcohol in over two years now too this is something you know I even when I went back drinking after it was very moderate you know I was still like like I would drink socially sometimes you know peer pressure sometimes like oh come on have a drink you know and then you like feel like especially in my world I mean everyone pretty much is like socially having a drink so I would be like okay I'll have a drink but then he got to a point that I was like and that was like 20 years later because it just happened over two years ago I was like I don't want to drink like I don't care what anyone thinks and I don't care if they have Fe peer pressure I'm going to have my Min tea my cam tea and if they want to drink I'm not making anyone feel bad about drinking they can do whatever they want this is their Temple you know this is my temple I get to choose and they shouldn't make me feel bad that I don't want to you know so um then I kind of stood up for myself I think that happens after your 40s like you care less about what other people think and um wait till you're 50 oh my God I can't wait for that I'm gonna like he's he's gonna be amazing but I think the thing you mentioned you mentioned like being directed and and and being kind of dedicated to your path and and and I feel like that's the underappreciated aspect of of understanding you and your career a lot of people arrive in New York City every single day with a similar dream or ambition that you had when you were a young person and you arrived there and a lot of those people are very beautiful you're beautiful but that doesn't tell the story of how you translated like an opportunity into the career that you had and I think between the lines there is an intense work ethic and a very intentional approach to what you were doing like how did you apply those skills like what is the differentiator between you and the career that you've enjoyed versus you know the other beautiful people who aren't enjoying the same kind of career you can't and you're not allowed to say luck or you're you know no I don't believe I don't believe in luck I don't believe in luck I believe in hard work and but I believe in um I mean I think discipline but I also believe that I always treated everyone the way I like to be treated and I've always was appreciative I have this immense sense of gratitude for just being there so even though you know people were like oh you know you you know when I was 19 I was like I want the model of you know the model of the year and everybody's like how does it feel to be it didn't really it doesn't matter to me because quite frankly I never saw myself as a motel it's just not something I didn't drink the Kool-Aid I didn't believe because I was a model or because I I became successful in this job like I was better than anybody I just and I didn't believe that I believe that I just got to learn that craft really well and I understood what the job entail and like I learned how to do the job really well but by no means is what defined me it's just something I did it's not it's not who I am I don't know if you know it's like I go there I had this opportunity at you know 13 14 years old when I finally left home and and and and St pursued this career that really I thought it was just really I did it for the money I did it because I was like what else am I going to do at 14 years old that I can help my family you know I don't have any other jobs that are offering me an opportunity so I'll take this one so for me it was really like a job so I never like it didn't kind of Define me I kind of did it my way like I never became like you know it was like oh it needs to be glamorous I was never glamorous I'm a jeans and t-shirt type of girl like I if I needed to go to parties or hang out with this type of people I never did any of that like I went there I did my job I did the best that I could I never was late in my life for my jobs like never showed up like late I was there before everyone I was there 100% you know I I I just wanted to make sure that if people were booking me and they they were trusting in me that I was going to show up and deliver you know and I think that's kind of what it was I did it my way you know and it didn't broke me kind of Cu I saw you know people in this business you know you can lose yourself because if you drink the Kool-Aid if you start thinking you know like you lose yourself in it I never lost myself it was just a job and it's still just a job I can't even believe I'm still doing it sometimes I go in and I do it you it's not it's not what I do full- time anymore but it's just one of those things that you know I got to do this I got to make a career out of it and got to make a great living and help my family and I I have wonderful you know I got to travel the world and learn different languages and and and all of that and that's how I see it I don't see it as a you know I don't see myself you're not defined by it you're not you're not caught up in in the kind of dark underbelly of that very strange world this whole world is like almost like a parallel reality for me you know what I mean if something is like a switch on button I go there I do my job I take my picture I turn it off I go home and I have the same friends I have my my family I'm very close with my family but I think you're very good at seeing opportunities when they arise and you tell a little story in in in the new book about being 14 and on route to Tokyo and your parents gave you your dad gave you a little bit of money that was intended for getting a cab from that's the first day arve in s Paulo and instead of using that money oh it was you were super young right so you had a little bit of money to take a tab and you had the presence of mind to say this money would be better spent buying some clothes so I can do better in my auditions or whatnot um which isn't like that's not normal like that's somebody who's thinking ahead who's planning long term who's understanding that they have an opportunity in front of them and trying to figure out how to make the most out of it with limited resources and I think that speaks to or says a lot about your sensibility or your perspective as a business person yeah I mean it's so interesting to see it that way I mean I for me at that moment in time you know I I I just felt like I did something else than that you know that was one of the things and now that you're saying that I actually did that throughout because I bought my first apartment when I was 19 years old and when everybody was buying you know designer bags all the models and you know like remember I didn't know I was going to last in this business I thought like I didn't go to school I didn't go to high school I didn't you know I I left I I went to work and whenever I go I go back I thought I was going to be a farmer or something because I just always love the land and but I I didn't think like you know like where am I going to go from here so I have to make sure that I have at least a place to live I'm a cancer so I want to have like a stable home and when I was 19 you know people start flying me first class because I was like the model of the year right saw all the clients now are paying me first class I was exchanging those tickets for Coach classes because I was every two three days in a different country and instead of paying um my you know a rent in an apartment I pay I put down a down payment for an apartment and then I was paying my mortgage instead of paying rent and you're 19 and I was 19 so I I own my first apartment as 19 years old it was like a in in New York City it was like facing a wall of another building mind you he was like a very apartment you know that does require some maturity and some long-term thinking well well because I just thought to myself like you know I don't know how long I'm going to stay here you know I i' I at least I have to have a place to live if I like I'm not going to live empty-handed you know what I mean like what do I care about a bag or like what is that going to give me it's not going to be a roof over my head I need to make sure that I have that I can spend in the right places but I think that sense came from my mother because we grew up you know my mother was a cashier in the bank my father had like lots of different jobs like he had a real estate job but he was you know my mom they literally we we were like really simple people and grew up in two bedrooms with six girls and and and money was all always tight so I learned how to is the same thing in the book is like how do you prepare how do you not waste food I mean everything is like I think in my life I was kind of like raised that way you know what I mean kind of plan ahead like for tomorrow so you make sure that you have like food for everyone like like we're going to reuse the meat we cook on the barbecue and we're going to put it in the rice we're going to have carera so we're going to have an abundant meal because we have the rest of the you know what I mean it's kind of like that it's like you put money in the bank so when you retire you have something to to live off when you can no longer work the same thing I feel about food like you eat the right food so when you're older you you're able to have the energy and your body is functioning because you made the right choices so for me it's the same thing you know it's kind of making like just being kind of what is necessary here like do I really need this what do I need more do I need a roof over my head or do I need this this bags and this stuff do I need to take a taxi when I arrive to the model apartment when I'm 14 even though I never been to the city or can I take the subway and save the money so I can get the clothes for the casting and maybe I can get a job it's like it's kind of thinking like with the resources that I have right now what is the smartest how is the smartest way to use them I guess if you're like me never without a water bottle let's get it right people allow me to rock your world with my new favorite toy that's actually not a toy at all it's a non-negotiable essential camel backs Podium steel 100% % leak proof water bottle emphasis on leak proof for all 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it's you know what it is it's a character I always call call it her because I think being a MTO what I understood as being a motto is to play a character in a silent movie you know you get to experience all these different charact all these different aspects of of of being a woman let's say because one designer wants you to be more androgynous you know one designer was you know I remember diding a Balin Saga campaign I was like they made me a boy I was like literally like a week I was like a man a boy and in one I was like the sexy Versace campaign like you know like with big hair and like you know pushup bra you know so it was kind of like I got to play from the the androgynous girl to the very sexy to the tomb boy like I got to you know I mean you should see I don't know if you ever saw my book the other one that was like the 20 years I did a 20 well I watched the video that you did where you kind of went through it and you were talking about what was going on with you with each of those photographs yeah so it's it's it's it's really about kind of playing these different roles but it's just instead of you talking like you would be in a movie you're just you got to make the image that picture that one capture image to to it's a performance art it's a performance art but it's such a weird world I know that like Alexander McQueen he was like he was really the Catalyst right he was the guy who gave me the chance you know he gave me the the chance but when you watch his shows or some of these other shows like the designs are are stunning and gorgeous but they're also totally inaccessible it's like who wears this does anybody is there anybody in the world that even wear I mean if you're Lady Gaga I guess or somebody like that but like yeah it's a fantasy and so it's curious like how does that translate into I guess it's just how you feel and how you think about a particular designer or a brand and not so much about directly selling those designs to the person who's going to the department store or the boutique right yeah they're not thinking I don't even understand the business model of the whole thing yeah I me neither to be honest with you but I think it's a really I mean I think it has changed a lot uh since I started like I see a big shift because I think before there was a lot more creativity there was allowed a lot more creativity I think you know McQueen or JN galano you know the shows and stuff like you were like in a world like sure and the photographers being rock stars themselves oh yeah and and it was a I think it was a moment in time where there was so much less about selling but it was much more about the the inspiration and the aspir aspiring you know the aspiration of creating like a fantasy and like a and it was a lot of fun then I have to say at that time because I would have been dead I wouldn't have survived it I would have gone all in I would have been at every after hours party it would have been a disaster you see I was in bed like studying my astrology books like by 10 you know that was me I was like by 10 I was like oh no I have to go I was like I have to start early so I can go to bed early so for me it was a a different thing but um you know but I guess for me I also fell very responsible because I didn't want to one of the The Guiding lights for me I really believe was my parents because I saw how hard they work and I didn't want to disappoint them so I think part of like me being so stay on the line was like I'm not disappointing my parents I don't care if they're not here they are going to know what I'm doing like I remember part of the reason why I got so freaked out about the McQueen show and they sent me out like without a top because I couldn't speak English and they didn't even do a feeding anyway so then I was I was like oh my God if my parents see this they're GNA make me go back home and then I you know what is it like when you go internet but there was no internet in 1997 19 it wasn't so thank God because they didn't even saw that otherwi they would have been like what what are you doing I be like I don't know and you have five siblings right I have five sisters I'm a middle child I have two older sisters and two younger sisters and I'm a twin MH in the middle so we like the the sandwich like the cheese in the sandwich being Brazilian uh you're connected to the Amazon and to climate change issues and you've done a lot in terms of your environmental advocacy and clean water initiatives talk a little bit about how that began and and what that looked like now you know I um I've always been a big um basically like a child of nature I always tell my children when they ask you know what's your religion they say Mom we don't go to church I say you know what you're in church every day I say I say what do I say when people ask what my what my religion is I say love is your religion and nature is your church that's your Cathedral that's the big church that's our Temple you know so you honor your temple you love your temple you CU that's the only reason why we are all alive because this whole ecosystem is making it possible you know to grow our food to give us to provide us with all the things we need to survive so U and that's how I grew up I felt that way and especially having a grandmother that everything was from the earth you know she grew everything she ate and and uh you know the Earth was giving us the herbs that we needed to like when we fell ill and and I grew up in that way so when you grew up in that way and you grew up running around bare feet you know I come from a small village and anytime you want to eat something you grab there was like a tangerine tree or like a orange tree or is a plum tree and you just go and pick up the fruit from the tree we never bought fruits from the supermarket you know you go either you had it in your backyard or your neighbor had it or the other neighbor you know somebody had the fruit he wanted to eat you just go grab it so I think when you leave with that connection to Nature you have a different appreciation it's like so I feel like nature is just like it's it's it's me like I think we are n you know we are that and I think this connection from nature for me is not something it's just something I've always known you know is how I grew up and so for me um taking care of which I love which is nature is natural um so the but the first time I realized there was really problems happening is when I went to actually spend some time uh with the indigenous people in shingu area of the Amazon in the 2004 and that's when the first time I realized you know pesticide what's what pesticides were doing where mining was doing how they were contaminating the rivers and basically all the indigenous tribes they were living and depending on the that water they were getting sick and even though they were living very wholesomely you know with nature and you know by the impact that the big farms and different Mining and all that stuff was having um was really um having a really terrible impact in their in their their livelihoods and and that's when the first time I was like I need to do something about it and that's when I started like I had a flipflop line at the time in Brazil and we gave a percentage you know to that's actually a funny story the the the indigenous people and I was like I wonder what they would do with this with this funds but it was like a group that helped indigenous in Brazil and the funny enough when I did when I turned 40 this was in 2004 so I was like 24 cut to when I'm 40 2020 I was 40 um I wanted to do something for my 40th birthday and I was like oh I want to plant some trees in the in in the Amazon and how we going to do it so we looked around for who can help us do that and we contacted the the people that are working with the indigenous people that we knew in in Brazil and they're like we have the largest seed bank in the Amazon and we started with the money with the whole program that you gave in 2004 that money that was for the sale of the flipflops now years later they had the largest seed bank of you know the indigenous they they they collected the larger seed bank and this is how with that whole group of people we basically planted over 300,000 trees in that area of the Amazon so that was like years later so that's just how funny how life goes but for me because I was so connected to nature and I always wanted to help and my dad always said you know water is the most important thing and of course I saw that with the indigenous people because that's how they were all getting sick because all the the you know residue of Mining and and and pesticides were going into their water in my little village we were having a lot of problems with agriculture as well where there was a lot of runoffs from Roundup and all the stuff that they use in agriculture all the pesticides and stuff and it was getting a lot of people sick so we actually did the AGA limpa program in 200 I think it was 20 the N or I don't remember when we started but it was like a long time ago and I funded it and my dad who's also a sociologist worked with the university and we and we basically regenerated the whole area of the river that was kind of you know getting the water to the city and we were able to clean it it took us like a few years to do it you know it was pretty simple because all we had to do I mean it was not simple my dad is the one who did the work it was simpler for me I just kind of funded it but he was there every day he had to work with I don't know how many farmers you had to take their pie of land and kind of grow the native species Forest you know the native Forest back so then the there's a buffer there was a buffer and then the root systems could could filtrate it before all that stuff would go into the river and then that was the agal limpa project and that was one of the projects we did to clean the water and anyway so there's lots of different things but in overall thing my my thing is you know we got to take care of Mother Earth she takes care of us you know when people say to me oh we're going to save the planet I say you're that's such an ego thing you know as humans we think we're going to save anything the planets is in her own process of evolution this is a you know it's I mean dinosaurs were here before us and you know lur I mean so many different civilizations the planet will be fine that's what I always say I say please don't fool yourself I think we really saving ourselves we need to yeah I say there's no Sav we need re ourselves back yeah this is really about us protecting the resources and and taking care of what we really need for our survival because once we are gone the planet is going to regenerate I mean I've seen this over and over again the planet regenerates itself so quickly you know because it's it's just a very intelligent we need to learn from nature instead of like trying to control nature we need to just like take a humble pill and and learn from the Big Mama we've moved so far away from that and we do live in this dualistic mindset where we think there's you know our environments and then there's nature or there's us and that's outside um but really understanding that you're never out of nature as you as you said um I think it's the first point of trying to really deepen your relationship with the world in which you live we all live and share and I think when it comes to the Amazon like we all hear about deforestation and all the you know clearing that's going on for cattle grazing and the strip mining and all the stuff that you mentioned but it's an abstraction especially for you know people in North America like we know what's going on we know it's bad but I've never visited there like I've never seen it myself and you being Brazilian gives you kind of a deeper appreciation and understanding of the extent of it you know I think it's how people tell the story because I think it's a lot deeper than you know I think people like depending on the industry that wants to benefit from something that tell the story and they say okay this is what we're going to do is about the cing oh yeah it's so crazy a lot of NOS go in there and they say we're going to have an NGO because we're going to like protect Amazon but they're meantime they're the owners of the bigger paper company that comes from the Amazon they are just not you know what I mean so there it's not not all is as it seems no it's it's a very it's a wild wild west there and one of the biggest you know I've been there a few times and also done a lot of um just kind of like talking to people and understanding what happens there and a lot of the you know there's ancient Woods there and a lot of that goes to Europe so like what a lot of the the cattle for example is what they use to kind of occupy the land but what they're really after which is really valuable there is like gold and Min m you know the the rare medals the rare medals yeah the rare medals and the gold and all that stuff that's in there that's what interest this like you know the different um countries let's say they are not brail when they and because it's so corrupt unfortunately you know Brazil is very corrupt the politicians are very corrupt what happens is they sell those rights to those countries and then we have what we have and then the cattle like in the end they just kind of put them there because they have to occupy the land after they REM because they have to enter if you go there after they removed everything because they have to remove the value the value then they then they put all the cows there that's what they do so they remove the ancient wood they they remove the precious metals and and but they have to get there because if you fly over it it mean you're flying for hours over just a Green carpet so for you to have access to that you have to you can't just like clear cut because it grows so what they do to keep the the the forest from growing they just throw because it's very fertile the soil as soon as you cut because imagine that soil is been there like receiving all those back healthy bacteria from the leaves falling super fertile So within like three days you can Grass Grows Right and then in order for the trees not to keep growing because if you just leave abandon that's what's going to happen the birds are going to carry the seeds they're going to drop the seeds they're going to things are going to start growing again and then they won't have access you know so they kind of it's just like a cycle like but what is really after what they're really after it is the big stuff is the is the and and it's not unfortunately you know it's h it's so sad you know is greed mhm in the end of the day is greed and is greed by people that you know they don't have those natural resources where they are and and they understand the situation in Brazil and how corrupt the this the the 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their best interest from a wellness perspective I think the number one thing I feel is like monkey see monkey does right I think you have to be the example you have to leave it um cuz I think whatever you say is one thing and whatever you do you they need to kind they need to whatever you say whatever you do they have to be the same thing right sympatico yeah they have to be sympatico and um and that's what it is and and I think for the kids for my kids were were a lot easier because I was home a lot with them so I was you know taking them to school every day making their breakfast you know just having my Gardens at home growing the food so when the kids would come for play dates at the house you know my kids were grabbing like everything raw cucumbers carrots like green beans they were just grabbing it from the garden and like collecting things and putting in the basket it was like a game for them and it was like oh friends are coming over why are we going to grab for the for to Door picnic outside and then so they grew up in that way you know they they uh so it was easier for me to feed them healthier food and and and and explain to them you know we always compost it we had bees at our house um so you know they they were learning about you know when The Beekeeper would come and they explain you know how much be how much honey can you take and how much money how much honey do you leave for the bees and how does a the how does a queen bee work and all the so they were they're emotionally connected they were emotionally connected they were part of that like I was as a kid so um so for them is really natural and they were also homeschooled for the last three years um during the you know the whole pandemic thing I and we moved from Boston to Tampa so um it was a whole new world for them so I I homeschooled them and now they just went back to school but I have to tell you I see a huge difference especially because my son is 14 now so he wants to kind of push back this is what I'm getting at oh yeah well how old kid well they range from 28 to 16 and each one of there's four and each of them is different um but it's a delicate dance because you know we raised our kids similarly um but they reach a certain age and part of individuation and maturing is taking ownership for your own choices and understanding what you stand for and what you don't and in order to really Define that and hone that you have to go out and kind of push the envelope and try new things otherwise it's just something you're doing because that's the way you were raised and that's what your parents told you as opposed to really owning it for yourself and so so we have learned that you have to have the brains very loose and and let them go out and do what they want to do and control the environment at home but be you know very kind of nonplused if they go and make a choice that you wouldn't make or whatever and just be curious about it and allow them the space to do that and you know you hope they come back and you know do it the way you taught them to um and sometimes they do and sometimes they don't and again every one of them is different in our case but as they get to a certain point and especially you know when they're with peers and friends and they're in social situations those things they have to learn for themselves and you have to allow them to I think it's so interesting so you have to let go a little bit oh let go and let God yeah I tell myself that is like a mantra you know and and and I I I remind myself of like my mom let me leave home she emancipated me and I was leing in Japan at 14 and there was no cell phones like I call you know can you imagine doing that for one of your children right now no and actually you know what it's so funny because I was having a conversation with my son about that he um he was complaining you know I have chores in my house you know kids have to do their chores so set the table wash the dishes you know now I make a point you know I cook at you know they come from school I'm cooking you know they so one has to set the table whoever sets the table the other has to wash the dishes and there is like you have to clean your room you have to do the basic stuff you know my daughter is doing amazingly she loves it and she's like really good and very proud of herself mom look how good I cleaned the dishes like she's really good and she's washing herself she's not putting it in the machine she wants to learn how to really wash it and and and do it right and she's very focused on it my son is like always like why do I have to do this you know so actually we had like a breakthrough this Christmas this this whole holiday season because I said he says to me I'm going to leave home when I'm 18 mom and I don't know if I'm going to go to college you didn't go to college you didn't go to school I'm going to just leave home when I'm 18 and I'm going to do this and I'm going to do that I'm like okay that's great so you're going to leave in your own apartment and who's going to cook for you and who's going to wash your dishes and who's going to clean your clothes who's going to do that and he's like for a second he's like because you're not going to have a chef and like a you know like and he was thinking for a second and I say well this is why when mommy tells you to do those things at home you know is because I want to give you more tools for your tool boox because when you learn how to do those things and they become second nature to you then you don't even have to think about it you become empowered to do it for yourself you don't depend on anybody and that's nothing it's amazing to be able to do that I said you know what made me feel so like strong and capable when I left my home because my mom taught me how to do those things so when I left home and I was leaving by myself at 14 years old I was first at 13 at 14 I moved to Japan but because I was leaving in the mod's apartment I was the only person there who knew how to clean cook iron do absolutely everything in the house because my mom taught me and it was easy for me I didn't think it was a struggle I was happy to do it and I was happy to to do it for the other girls that didn't know how to do it but if you're going to be planning on leaving on your own at 18 who do you think is going to do all those things for you so all I'm telling you is like take advantage that mommy's here for you right now and I'm able to teach you all those things and you can do it at your time I'm not telling you like at this time you have to wash the dishes so let me just help you I'm going to create a list for you and you just have to do them and you can decide if you want to wash clothes once or twice a week you can decide if you want to wash the dishes right after dinner or before you go to bed whatever you want but if you learn how to do those things you're going to see how empowered you're going to feel and the more tools we can put like the more things like the simple things like that that you can learn and that you can equip your tool box to do you're just going to be just that much like capable and and and there's nothing more fulfilling than feeling like you're able to do stuff that you're capable and then he looked at me and he's like okay mom so when we get back home you give me that list and I'm going to do it I'm like I wow I was going to say like he actually he actually receiv that I I think I have a breakthrough I think I got a breakthrough with the hormones are raging like whatever mom you know storming off like you can get you can get that reaction too that was good good job don't you think that was a good thing but but I used but you see it was a moment that I used what he said because when he thought to himself that's true how am I going to do all that stuff I said you don't want to live in like a you know a messy stinky place that is not clean like you know you want to like have you know so you need to know how to do this stuff and I think all I I see like all the things that happen in life like that like different tools we acquire you know even the job that I you know my job like all the tools that I've acquired in this job all the things that I've learned to do um that I don't know when I'm going to use I use them for my job but maybe I'm going to they going to be useful like in 20 years from my life sure but you came from very different circumstances it's the it's the Peril of success right like you and and the kid's dad like worked very hard to achieve all of these things in life and now they're reared in you know like an insane degree of privilege and it becomes more difficult to instill that kind of work ethic into somebody who you know grows up that way I think you're correct I think it becomes a lot more difficult but I think goes back to the discipline and it goes back to priorities and I think it for me it becomes about what kind of you know I I feel like I'm their Guardian because we don't possess our children right I mean we just come here they come through us but they're as much as our teachers as we are they're teachers and we're constantly learning and teaching you know in every relationship in our life and and I feel that we get this moment in time which is very short in a way that we get to influence our children because then they go I mean look at my parents they had 14 years to influence me then I was out in the world and I never went back and I keep remembering like what are all the things that if they wouldn't have taught me those things where would I be today and I'm so grateful for them for for those lessons and I feel like yes I grew up in very different circumstances than my kids and it is a bit more challenging to have them you know make their bed and wash the dishes and clean their you know when I have a person that can do it too but I make a point of me doing it so then they learn that oh Mommy's doing the dinner Mommy is making the breakfast mommy is so they're like weel you have to model and I feel like it's a different kind of modeling is it is the type of modeling that I prefer it's it's the type of modeling that I find to be the important type of modeling because that's the you know I mean what's Mo the most important thing you're going to do in your life I feel like raising children is is by far the most challenging thing I've ever done and the most uh fulfilling at the same time and you know but I feel that if if I if I don't do that if I don't equip my children to be good capable assets you know for themselves in their lives if they're not going to be then I fail I I feel yeah you haven't done your job then I haven't done my job I mean I feel that's my job I mean that's a job I do to kind of make a living so I can like you know put foot on the table and have but my real job as as I think as a as a mom and I chose to be a mom so I have to show up for my kids and I feel like this things that my you know I think is really what shaped me and what made me who I am today was definitely the upbringing that I had and and what my parents how they guided me and I feel like that's really important so I make that a priority in my life to make sure that my kids are going to have even though they don't have those same needs you know to do those things because my mom didn't have a a person she could pay to come clean the house we had to you clean the bathroom you clean the you know it was like a list all of us have to share between us who's going to do what and we grew up that way and it was kind of fun because you know I was always I always love the cleaning part you know I love organizing and cleaning I feel like a clean house is a clean mind is like a what's out is in you know if like if everything is organized outside I can think um and I tell my kids that and I feel that um if I can really get them to do those simple things in life you know and and learn those things and teach them how to be self-sufficient and capable human beings I feel like I've done my job and then I can rest and then whatever else they do the choices they make if they choose to eat the food that I fed them when they were little if now they want to go eat you know whatever or I mean it's going to be what they're going to do you know they're going to choose their friends hopefully they they choose wisely because in the end of the day they're going to be the one dealing with the consequences of their actions and I always tell them like listen you know you're going to go out there and you're going to make the Cho whatever choice you make there are going to be consequences you're dealing with those consequences me this is your life and sometimes they need to they need to make those mistakes and face those consequences like we had I mean how many mistakes that I mean I have and those those experiences are formative like I'm sure if you look in the rear view mirror and think about the panic attacks that you were having on airplanes and your inability to get into an elevator and you know this desire to jump off your balcony on some level you wouldn't wish that experience on anybody but you probably wouldn't wna change your experience either because it's set in motion this whole sensibility and way of being that you now have and I think with kids they regardless of whether they hear you in the moment or whether they go out into the world and make a bunch of mistakes like they come back yeah and whatever you taught them it's in there and at some point when they're ready or whatever like they return to it and you know and and I think to to trust that it's very important and I also feel like because if you try to overly control it you're going to drive them away absolutely and and you know I think for me I keep going back to me as a kid and the trust my parents had in me to let me go and I wouldn't be who I am today if it wasn't for them trusting in me and for all the mistakes that I've made and then had to come the other side and figure out for myself so I think it's important to give our children the Dignity of Their Own process you know because we had a dignity you know we have to go through our own process to become who we are and I think as long as they know that we are there and what what is our values you know is like those things that are important what is what is that we stand for what's important for us you know as as as as a as a value as a core value as as as a being a good human being and a good person and if you thought that your children and and they and they got it in the end of the day they're going to go out there in the world and they're going to have to make their mistakes and I I think the best thing you can do for them it's is just be there for them whenever they they come back and if they want your help you know and I think it's it's hard because you want to protect them like you can put Bobble wrap on them so like nothing will touch them and they will be safe but in the end of the day that's unrealistic and it's like it doesn't work anyway you know what I like this idea you know there's a metaphor of the butterfly imagine the caterpillar as she's transforming into becoming the butterfly she's you know eating eating all the you know until she finally starts spinning into a cocoon and and then she has to like go through that whole stous process if you ever seen like you know they turn into GP yeah but they're like but it's exactly it's just and it's really kind of like hard to like when they're coming out it's like really awkward and it looks like they're very strenuous and very difficult so if you go in there and you try to help them come out you're going to them you're going to the butterfly and she won't be able to have the strength she needs struggle is the struggle is what crucial to the the growth and you have to give them the Dignity of their own process you have to be and I and I keep reminding myself I cannot take away that opportunity for them because my parents gave me the opportunity for me to go through my own challenges and I grew and and I want my kids to have that same opportunity because whoever they're going to become is going to be based on what their choice is and hopefully I gave them enough good examples and and and good um values where they would make the choices that is right for them you know what is it that you want people to understand or take away from the new book and and how you are modeling this lifestyle um whether it's dietary changes Lifestyle Changes uh movement practices how can somebody who is interested in kind of leveling up across the board begin the process of of making those changes in their life you know it's funny you know because when I decided to do a cookbook I'm the farthest thing there is from a chef let me tell you something I I am not a chef let me just like let's be honest you've got a private Chef in home that person is taking care of everything not anymore I used to you don't anymore no I don't I don't it's no the last two years I don't you're cooking your own meals yes I'm cooking my own meals yeah I I grew up there way and I want like I told you like my priority is showing my kids what I believe it's important for them and and and I can't I can't say oh this is important and then I have and I'm not doing it you know what I mean so it has to be cohesive right and and I think that for me um really being like living what I believe is very important and I was showing my kids that this is important to me like the only way I'm going to show them that is by doing that so yes I had chefs and this is how I learn how to cook a lot of the things a lot of the recipes in the book are like inspired by the things that I created with the chefs that I throughout the years I had the opportunity to you know to really work with Incredible people incredible Chef people that love food as much as I do because I love food um but was really an idea for me to look I can say go and meditate go and exercise you know I believe meditation I believe rest I believe um exercise I believe nutrition all of those things are extremely important for you to be able to take kind of ownership of your health and really take care of yourself and have and work on just having a more clear mind and just feeling more connected to yourself I think all of those things are different aspects of it but the reason about the cookbook is quite frankly I was seeing kids were coming to our house and in play dates and and moms will come and be like how did you get my kid to eat broccoli or roasted vegetables or and it was like so simple and I was like oh maybe we can share how to make some simple recipes that are super easy you can make it like in 10 minutes and you know moms some you know you just sometimes feel overwhelmed and I know because life is busy there's so so much going on so I was like how can I help in this way and also I feel like food is a perfect time for you to practice being present and mindful because you can eat like on a rush and not being present and the food have a one effect in your body or you can do something which is what I talk about in the book is like every time I look at my food not only the act of preparing your food there so much loves and you're touching the food and you're connecting with your food that's one thing but even if you're not the one cooking your food just to take a moment to bless your food to acknowledge that that is something that is alive that you're taking it and you're that's also your source of life you know so it's kind of like connecting to the food in that way I think it it does something because everything is energy so you're having a transfer of energy with something and with the intention that you're eating it has a different I I feel huge you know when I start doing that does make a difference how he has a different just being present and being connected to what you're doing having gratitude for that moment and you get to do that three times a day you know I mean now I have a juice once a day but I still blast my juice but it's just kind of like it's just this book what I would like to to to for people to take is like it can be really simple it doesn't have to be complicated to to eat healthy and really like if you have plans you know my mom taught me you know since I was a kid like no food waste so how can we organize our meals so can there's a big thing about like reducing waste yeah there for me that's huge and also like me planning like if you're going to buy because or you know food sourcing that's huge it's not about having something with a lot of condiments and a lot of stuff it's just like keep it simple but buying really great quality products like if you can do that and then instead of like because a lot of people are like oh and then you buy organic and then you throw it out because it's like you know it spoils much faster and I'm like yeah but if you have a meal planning and I and I teach that I kind of give some suggestions in the book like my mom did that I grew up like that because she didn't have time you know she was working all the time so she had like in the fridge like what we going to have for the whole week so she would go to the groceries and she would buy and then the things were allowed to the next day so you would always know what we were eating and things that wouldn't be eaten could be easily transferred for the next day and be made into the next organiz so that nothing spoils and you're so nothing spoils and you never had food waste because you're always taking it from one day to the next so is never wasting you always	my own challenges and I grew and and I want my kids to have that same opportunity because whoever they're going to become is going to be based on what their choice is and hopefully I gave them enough good examples and and and good um values where they would make the choices that is right for them you know what is it that you want people to understand or take away from the new book and and how you are modeling this lifestyle um whether it's dietary changes Lifestyle Changes uh movement practices how can somebody who is interested in kind of leveling up across the board begin the process of of making those changes in their life you know it's funny you know because when I decided to do a cookbook I'm the farthest thing there is from a chef let me tell you something I I am not a chef let me just like let's be honest you've got a private Chef in home that person is taking care of everything not anymore I used to you don't anymore no I don't I don't it's no the last two years I don't you're cooking your own meals yes I'm cooking my own meals yeah I I grew up there way and I want like I told you like my priority is showing my kids what I believe it's important for them and and and I can't I can't say oh this is important and then I have	8	4	7	my own challenges and I grew and and I want my kids to have that same opportunity because whoever they're going to become is going to be based on what their choice is and hopefully I gave them enough good examples and and and good um values where they would make the choices that is right for them	you know what is it that you want people to understand or take away from the new book and and how you are modeling this lifestyle um whether it's dietary changes Lifestyle Changes uh movement practices how can somebody who is interested in kind of leveling up across the board begin the process of of making those changes in their life	8,4,6	2,6,4	8	4	6	2	6	4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0g_xJvKEb8	4,108	-0g_xJvKEb8	2024-06-27 00:00:00	[Music] what's up everybody welcome back to episode 14 of the batch and Arthur podcast yay go thanks for joining everyone we have something to reveal yes we do I know you guys don't like it when Arthur has his mug on the couch because he tends to drop things don't you never dropped anything actually okay you dropped that th done remember that well you might have noticed I also have my mug on the sofa mhm wondering why who wants to know why should we tell them something to do with one like equals one Lara maybe something to do with that exactly you guys ready see what you reveal go way for audio listeners we have white mugs with our little cartoon characters on them that's right little will I didn't want to Cheers you and I've got my little handsome space guy come on yeah Lara surprised us with these this is a gift um mine shatterproof as well apparently oh it's not sh yeah he's got a plastic mug because we know what he's like I've sippy C the audio listeners actually little rubber cppy cup with two handles well actually when Arthur drinks from a mug show them how you do it I'll I'll commentate for this he uses two hands so he grabs on the like handle and then he grabs the other hand I drink everything with two hands especially tea and Pints yeah I don't really know what is there a reason for that or not safety I guess twice as balanced is that really if one arm stops working the other one's there as a fail safe well there you go that's why he does it guys so it makes sense all after all yeah um speaking of batch and Arthur this podcast design right here yeah this has been plasted on something recently what our rocket ship oh yeah guys we just got back from the Red Bull Soap Box race and we're alive 2024 we genuinely were not sure we were going to survive no I was but we did really scared we we turned up we got to see other people's cards um and there was basically two things going on so there's like a public race and then the Creator race was like a separate thing which is streamed on YouTube If you go on Red Bull's um YouTube channel and you go on under the live tab you can actually watch the full thing yeah we were like a half time race yeah it was Bas half time show yeah there was a few people who weren't happy about the Creator's uh racing cuz they thought we were mixed in with the public but it's like a whole separate thing like we can't win any awards over the public or anything like that yeah um but but we won the hearts of the public come on yeah we did win the hearts of the public there was a a couple of things that you were like rated on as creators and one of them was People's Choice and we got a landslide victory of 44% yeah it actually ended up on 49% 50% out of four teams we got 49 everyone rounds 49 thank you to everyone who voted for us we one of four teams but we're up against chip and freezy who have a big loving audience Becky and pieace who audience and then con from the siden huge loving audience and the guy who's our cameraman on the train video the siden that's right Jack was there as well went to with con they had cool out but uh we we got to Ali p uh that's my first time there you've been there before actually I think we should start the day before okay let's let's reel that [ __ ] back because we had another sleepover kind of yeah we did have another let's just say oh no we didn't really a hotel yeah we did not have a sleepover but what did we do where did we first meet we we met at the we met at the hotel at the hotel dropped our bags off Adam was there he's the Red Bull guy that was been looking after us and he took all the creators out to dinner yeah we to find the tell first yeah chopped a pint um both hands come on yeah then we got in a taxi we went to dinner we had a create a dinner um what did you eat pizza yeah I had a really really hot hot pizza but the thing I was enjoying the most was the football we had a massive screen in front of us oh yeah cuz France were playing Netherlands NE scen I felt kind of harsh cuz the the table was positioned in a way that only half of us could see the football and the other half were just watching us watching football yeah but no he they were watching a react video basically they got to see us live reacting In the Flesh um but the meal was really good the food was really good uh Jake was struggling Jake the guy works with um Arthur they both got the same Pizza he was struggling with the heat yeah he was [ __ ] [ __ ] struggling with the Pint as well got two pints steep was steaming no cuz he was so in denial Jake yeah Jake had a couple pints and he was gone we were like you are drunk he like I am not drunk and he was getting angry mad I'm not even drunk he's I haven't even done anything later he's doing karaoke so that's belting out karaoke with his phone to the to the mic with with voice note on my God it's so that was you singing those Tunes to someone yeah we yeah CU you've been to a place before should we say the name of the place or not I actually I don't remember it anyway okay we went to this place anyway Arthur's been there before it's um like a karaoke bar with uh like an arcade and bowling and there's a dance floor and like a bar and stuff like that yeah very good fun we all went there did some karaoke went there for Arthur Hill's birthday that's how I found out about it what a place it is a cool place actually um yeah did a bit of karaoke we were in there for a couple hours doing karaoke in the end yeah um belting at tunes by the way batch can sing No Arthur can sing yeah but I think people would assume that from but that goes without saying no but but Frank Sinatra came on and oh my goodness batch was just cooking that thing anyone can sing Frank arra welcome back Frank Sinatra he died and this is him reborn wasn't wasn't he heavily involved with the mafia Frank Sinatra so are you you're a quter Italian that's true but I can't admit that no not legally anyway oops they're going to come and get me try and come and get me watch me beat beat you all up actually I shouldn't say what if they do don't come and get me please I was just kidding I've got nothing to do with him he lives on 32 Italian back street oh my god that actually is my house number H what don't say that it's not that's my apartment number as well no we you're not finding out where we live um I'm going to move in with Arthur anyway we moved in together on Minecraft yeah sort of anyway back to karaoke we had fun at karaoke then we went home we didn't get back till 3:00 a.m. silly move because we had to be up early yeah we had it well not that early we had 10: a.m. taxi picks up yeah but we met at breakfast at 9:30 it was the most romantic breakfast of my life yeah um and then stayed at the Hilton Red Bull of class they put us in there they also like what a lovely experience not only did they take us to dinner they they paid for karaoke and everything like that they covered everything shout out to Red Ball I'm going to crack One open right now and they're actually delicious all these colored red balls my actual favorite is the summer edition you guys should actually try this this is not sponsored but I'm just saying this is not even the first thing I I did I went to salburg in Austria and did some Red Bull salburg video shooting with Chris MD um we did like penal sh outs in games with mads bistrup for their YouTube channel and then did a video in it was the the final one of christed uh every time you beat a Defender the defender gets upgraded that's right yeah and we start off with like Harry R Shaw as the worst Defender when all the way up to Champions League mads bistr who fantastic player I mean yeah you realize how like when you watch t uh football on TV you think oh I could do that yeah but then if you see a actual Pro in real life yeah like that makes sense why you went pro now actually we need to do more charity so that was fun that was fun there are a lot going on it's just timings cuz there's so many things going on during summer and that's usually when charity matches go down yeah but you got to work in the schedules either you're away or I'm away or there's a brand trip or something has to be submitted in time was crazy yeah but um no I'm sure we're going to do a lot more stuff with Red Bull as well so that's exciting um but anyway we then got the taxi to Alex Alexandra Palace Ali pal come on and um I've only just realized that's why it's Ali P really yeah I just thought that Ali P was the hill and Alexandre Palace was no way Ali now I've just heard it okay that's Ali P right anyway U you almost did a off the TV intro that right right so then we uh we got into the race so no we got into the Zone where the race was going on yeah and we got to have a little scout out all the public submitted soap boxes some really cool stuff in there yeah although there was one weird one because we rock up and there are like four girls gathered around water is essentially a double bed one girl just tucked up and you back like oh this is cool and she was like yeah it's really cozy get in we were like no I I ain't doing all that I'm sure though that you know that wasn't actually her like lying in it yeah I know you could tell something was weird under the covers but I was not getting involved what what what the hell um oh you can't see my soundboard I've got to pull this back so I can soundboard here yeah he hasn't got a soundboard yet thank goodness although I should no they all see the comments by the way Lara and Arthur see the comments and Lara even said into the group chat she was like I think we need to get bat of soundboard because of all the comments she sent me a message being like listen we've got one purchase a year we can authorize either we get cool mugs or batch gets a soundboard and I was like mugs mugs oh hell no I just think it's so much funnier when you do it yourself and go to I do think so but this is going to get worn down and eventually there's going to be a Hole uh oh audio listeners don't know what I'm doing I I just I pretend there's a soundboard and I just push the sof and make my I do it as well I do it in real life I'll be speaking to people when I'm BR but it doesn't make his much sense in real life just in a conversation he's just air poking stuff as he goes brh you know what's so funny as well I showed batch this someone one of you guys one of our listeners because cuz I you do it quite a lot but I do it all the time at you do the what yeah what that thing someone did a Tik Tok called whatting people in public so she goes into this petrol station goes to pay she goes like how much is that and he goes like Oh 1350 and she just goes what loud so loud just yells it in this man's face and everyone was like bad bad you guys have to recreate this it was so funny yeah and then Arthur was like we've got to do this we've got I don't know if I have the like what is it um social confidence to do that I'd be able to do it not yell it I thought it was a bit rude though the loud yelling not in a bad I'm not criticizing you I just able to do that like that myself I'd be like what I think sorry you got no no soup of the day what what when you have a camera on you though that you get a new found confidence in public like I found no no no in general I don't know if you agree with this in like a sidan video I Feel Like rules don't apply like social rules then don't apply cuz you've got a camer on you and you can do what you want whatever you want yeah I've only recently started being able to finally find it within myself to Vlog like when we were at wagas I was like this is actually fine yeah whereas before IID look at people vlogging in public and I go I admire you a lot cuz I can never do that it helps having people around you yeah although I feel like we do it with our phones it's a bit easier that's true whereas if people with their cameras out like facing their way I'm like oh my goodness I'd be so embarrassed yeah I think I would be as well especially if you got like a big rig on the end of that thing people are just admiring you your rig yeah both of them come on anyway um what speaking of the soap boxes that we saw um there was this one there was like these four guys like lying down chilling and they had this like Dome oh yeah which was kind of like a I guess like a spa you know the space shuttles that come down to earth it kind of looked a bit like that didn't yeah um like a landing module yeah like a landing module and they what did what did they make it off fiberglass or something yeah oh my God you could smell it from where we were still and they were like stick your head in that so we stuck it you stuck your head in first took a whiff and I did it afterwards oh my God dizzying genuinely dizzying I'm high I'm still high from that moment if anyone's ever been in like a a surfboard shop where they like make the surfboards yeah it smells like that it just smell exactly like that and they bizarre I just burped on I thought that was what that was that was disgusting hopefully that didn't get picked up apologize sorry guys sorry if you heard that cut that out anyway um it's not getting cut uh it they had to spend the whole run down in that thing so I think those guys are a little bit waved yeah I'm glad we I'm glad we were just a team of two and had two seats because I kind of felt bad some people that pushed the Soap Box thing down yeah like running after it for like 50 meters and it was a hot day that's true like um most people was like a team of four and two would push two would be in it I think that's standard isn't it to have two people in the so box and then a team that will push and Chase it down probably chase down chip and freezies yeah funny it was funny as well the way he was running because I guess it was like a it was like Looney Tunes the way he had his arms up like that chasing them down to be fair there are people I felt more bad for he talking about some of the injuries of the day oh my God and this is the thing like good gosh man we were already nervous then we were then we got to S see our um vehicle which they had made some mods to by the way so put me at ease a little bit they put foam in the place where my head would smash oh yeah so I felt about that yeah um they didn't they were going to cut out the wheel arches so we could turn more but they didn't I'm glad they I actually think that worked in our favor in it did um and they were actually slagging it off when it went up on towards stage they were speaking about it on Mike and they were like they can't turn properly they can't see over it and I was thinking oh no they're slagging off our thing they were talking about our buckets on the back and stuff I don't know if they were slagging off the buckets or just speaking about I just heard bucket like they're talking about ours oh my god um but it actually worked in favor and then there was screens up showing the first runs and it took a while it like an hour or two after we got there till the first run um but did you see the Sheep one no I didn't see any of the big ones but that's a bad one there was a sheep we I was watching a sheep go down um it was just before you did your stunt I think and it got all the way to the end and then at full speed flipped over onto their necks and I think it was one of them that broke their collarbone and it looked awful and after seeing that me and pieace was stood together we were like I we genuinely don't want to go down after seeing that he was [ __ ] it I was [ __ ] it um and then not only that I think other people must have like been bruised or whatever but the other big one that we heard about is we when we got to the start line we were there waiting for like 10 minutes and it was cuz the person who went down before us got knocked out so that's crazy yeah which I didn't see I don't think we'll ever see any footage of that but I don't know what vehicle it was or anything I just heard that they got knocked out that's why we were up there for ages yeah I mean it was going down insanely fast yeah it look I mean it looks quick on camera but it doesn't look nearly as quick as it feels yeah when you're in that thing oh my goodness and you can barely see in front of you you're bouncing all over the place you're hitting these jumps there are bits where there's foam that like splashes you in the face you have a few seconds of blindness yeah it's mental it it to best describe it definitely feels faster than sitting in a car at 60 MPH I'd say faster than it feels sitting in a car going 100 yeah cuz you're so exposed to we've never gone 100 I've been on the auto bar in Germany okay fair um but yeah you're exposed so it just feels so quick but we were quick insanely Qui insanely quick I think everyone we were the first of the creators to go up everyone thought we were going to just crash yeah or just be crap and slow there was so many comments so many DMs I got afterward was like [ __ ] fair enough before we even went down though before we get cuz we we will react we'll show you us going down yeah but I think we should tell them actually maybe should we hit play and then we'll pause at certain bits to be like explainer yeah I'll tell you what it plays it goes all the way through and then they do it in slow-mo afterwards we can on the slow-mo we'll do some explanation okay here we go batch and Arthur we had the podcast sticker oh it was such a good sticker on the side which was really cool and they zoomed in out loads for the YouTube video which is great yeah was all over the stream which was ideal although you cannot see podcast there until someone shads over it yeah someone's just shattering we were stood up there for ages genuinely yeah because someone had just been knocked out looking down this hill that was just so steep it's not funny but look at that thing that's so impressive it's so well built I can't believe it and I'm I'm gutted because I actually wanted to say to the we had a little bit of help from the Red Bull Engineers yeah I wanted to say thank you to them more just be like what did you see that that was really good yeah if anyone knows anything by any chance please pass on our thanks because yeah they they helped us hopefully they watched it and saw a great deal uh but we did do a lot I mean we did spend two full days building this thing and printing it up and stuff so yeah which you'll obviously see in the Vlog I'll talk about I'll talk about something later cuz there's um this was posted to Tik Tok and there's some funny comments on there really basically yeah basically calling us desk dwellers what so this is our performance so this performance we didn't know we no was supposed to do we we were told to choose a piece of music so we chose something like Space Odyssey style but we had no idea that meant we had to perform yeah and like like she's saying like there are points for performance and we knew about 10 minutes beforehand that this 30 second period of Music we'd have to Performance so we were like let's just do something simple gum shields in the mouth bow and get in and they were harsh they gave us a three but that also also counts to the way the vehicle looks so I think three is Harsh yeah but here we go performance score 22 poor but this is when we started racking up speed the steering was really weird as well cuz it changed as we got quicker and we were just bouncing as we went down like we'd hit a ramp and oh my goodness like almost front flipped that around we Whi around the corner and our our genuine one of our wings like clipped a ha Bell and just sliced through it that one sliced through the hay Bell I was thinking as we came down I swear I would have hit that side had I not hit that side and then nailed the braking and you said you could smell burnt rubber when you were breaking on that thing cuz I was like tickling the brakes like before a jump every now and then I do one all as we approached the chicane I pulled it yeah um but they said as we were going down in the commentary like yeah oh this feels fast usually you're hitting like low 20s here and it comes up on the side and we're hitting 30 km an hour yeah we were going and we were oh my goodness I'm glad you didn't break touch the break though we didn't need it yeah yeah I mean you did a did a little bit but I mean the others obviously touched it a lot more yeah I basically kept us at a speed where I was like this is very close to the line of like where we can make this corner at the speed because at the end of the day as a race and I was like we don't want to get up at the end and just be like oh like a couple of the soite boxes made it halfway down and just like stopped completely yeah and they were like having to like like I don't know like Shake It Forward it's so awkward like we did speak and we did say we'd actually rather crash going pretty quick than come to a grinding hle because it's just not good material yeah like we did it for Content wants to see that it's for a video we know representing creators at half time yeah so many people watching we've got a space shuttle that is designed at a velocity of 17,000 500 mph yeah so we were like you know hitting to be honest when they gave us those uh cuz we asked for special helmets that covered the face yeah when they gave me that I felt invincible and I thought oh [ __ ] it and we had gum Shields that we like ped poured into boiling water molded them before and molded them so we we felt pretty safe yeah I mean but still at 30 we weren but I don't have miles hour or kilm an hour I think it was mph I actually do really yeah but whatever it is at 30 like genuinely like just whacking your head against something solid is well I mean someone did get knocked out and broke it was terrifying yeah they they then do a slow-mo okay let's watch the slow-mo and we can break down exactly because I was thinking there was a point in the chicane when we really Whi round I was thinking why did that happen it was because the back right wheel wasn't on the ground when we were coming up to the chicane so when it touched the the ground it turned us into a corner so I was like [ __ ] and I had to spin it around one way and then back around the other way oh that's why we had that major wobble yeah and you can see it it's like it's cuz one of the wheels wasn't on the ground okay let's let's watch and like in the first one we'll try and go for the audio listeners kind of describe what we're seeing yeah so the first jump yeah we it was a heavy a heavy bit of Kit as well we definitely had one of the heavier ones it and it was like so we got through here the back that wheel wasn't on the ground so like had to correct it well the chicane of just having to go really quick left and then really quick right after yeah and then this pit we hit a bunch of stairs and bch basically grinds on the right hand of them it's cuz afterwards we had to be on the right hand side so I was thinking I can't turn directly after I'm going to have to turn on the ramp like the CL the the course is split in two with like steps on the left and straight on the right and we go down the steps but like half dangling off yeah you have a choice whether to do jumps or not obviously we were going to do the jumps cuz you get docked time um no they add time on if you go round cuz it's a bit unfair yeah but we you were just like let's head it yeah and after the first jump it it looks like we really jump around I don't know about you but in it it didn't feel that bad I I think I'm the exact opposite cuz I was going flying and my bum still Hur May was our positioning or cuz I was holding on to this when yeah I had nothing to hold on to I was just sat on a blue seat I re yeah I reckon that's what it was cuz it kept me like sort of planted you fix and you're in the center so with us like when when you go off the Jump the nose sort of goes down yeah it did and then the back col kicks up into the air and then slams down and because I'm at the back you really got you know I've got a lot further to fall and I just got whacked and my butt like when I sit on the sofa like no I can feel it bruised on I was actually un unscared I was absolutely fine yeah God it was um after that first jump though I got a lot more confidence in the run I was thinking oh that was fine I can we can do all the [ __ ] jumps yeah I just got full speed no I rate it I'm so glad you just sent it cuz and you I mean you didn't have a choice sending it yeah you just you na yeah exactly you could SL down but uh I they miked us did they mic you up CU they miked me up but I said nothing the whole run yeah why would you you couldn't because the thing is I was so focused I think it's because we went so quick because there's a Red Bull posted a video on their Tik Tok page where because they miked up chip and freezy and um it's off chip speaking to freezy and he's like on the brakes off the brakes okay we're going to go around this now and I think it's CU they were using the brakes and communicating about the brakes that they had stuff to say but because we were just you told me before you weren't going to touch the brake so I thought okay he's really not there's no point saying anything and you know whether it's a Brak or not so I was just thinking I'm just going to drive I was literally only thinking like I'm only going to slow us down if I feel like at this speed we either can't hit that jump properly or can't go around the corner and I was just tickling it and it was only at the end like I was like I've got to wait until we cross the finish line before I can break and I just Ram it and because it was a friction break it's like literally a metal bar that just pulls down onto both of the rear wheels it just starts smelling like burning rubber actually nailed that was so good though cuz we literally landed after that last jump we landed and I was like [ __ ] the Finish is right there and all I could hear was I just knew he pulled that thing so hard we came around the corner and didn't touch a single thing because he broke just in time yeah and the thing was untouched like the they said they it could get sent back to one of us so I send it to my house um I got I didn't tell you this yet I got a DM from someone saying I'm just about to watch your soap box get destroyed what no it's been graveyard we took it to a graveyard but we put it to one side no they told us we could have it uh yeah oh the guy might be lying I I pray he is cuz that's so harsh but I saw it in the DM request I was like [ __ ] surely not we should M message Adam but I think a big part of the reason we couldn't speak or do much else is because we weren't so full s we did that in 36 seconds chip and freezy were the second fastest in our group I think and they were 44 seconds yeah so we were we were literally seven or eight seconds I mean I don't exactly know what their milliseconds were but we were seven or eight seconds faster than them and I mean the difference like you watch them go down and they're sort of doing a decent speed but I thought them being go- karters you know they've got their Senor frogs they race every year yeah I was like they're going to bomb it too yeah but they kind of just played it relatively safe I mean good time time but like I do think we we absolutely Center and we had this guy come up to us at the end like should you say yeah say and this guy comes up to us and go don't like freak out now or anything um but we're checking because we genuinely think this was one of the fastest of all time yeah like fastest soap boxes ever he thought we hit the world record run right there and then and they cuz they had to check them by the millisecond yeah and we were a fraction of a second off being the fastest ever 1 18 of a second something something ridiculous like that and uh so I think we were either the second or the third fastest of all time yeah there were rumors at the end of the day and I don't know whether it was Chip just winding us up being like the last car of the day was slightly faster yeah they they yeah they said something like the last car of the day actually broke the world record so if that is true we're the third fastest of all time if not we are the second fastest of all time to go down that track and we rather the second of the first fastest of this year's event which is just just the coolest thing ever like we to be fair have also like we couldn't have picked a design that was Better Built For Speed I mean it's so people were saying this is this is aerodynamic and I was thinking it is but I don't think it's going to make that much of a difference in this yeah scenario and whether it did or not or whether it was just the fact that you didn't break much yeah I think that was it it was quite heavy it was heavy as well you had one of the heavy ones so at the start you can tell this was one of the things we were saying we should have got two people cuz we only got Jake to shove us at the start yeah and when when you start off just going down the ramp it took us a while to pick up speed if we had sort of been shoved and started at a really good pace and kept it at that pace I genely think we could have built the record but I'm I want to do it again same that's why I wanted to keep that cuz we could have just modified that and send it down we know that's a winning formula yeah make it into a submarine or something yeah exactly that thing works but Red Bull like they they we had such a great time with them they did so much for us and we were so grateful and we were speaking see nothing guaranteed and stuff um but they were saying there's a potential for us to come back and maybe do the one that you know you launch off a ramp and you're like 10 m up whatever and you've got to Glide over water as far as possible there and there are loads of other sort of like cool Red Bull events and stuff to do so um yeah I think we make this a thing if we can do just more of this stuff yeah I loved it it was genuinely one of the best things I've ever done I think yeah and there's a the the the only annoying thing is there's so much footage it's going to take a while to get the video together because Red Bull have Clips we have clips they've sent us a hard driver clipse I've got stuff on my phone B has stuff on his phone Jake has stuff on his phone so we'll gather it all together but when the video comes out I think it'll be such a good one because so good the whole experience was just the coolest thing ever and we couldn't be more grateful to Red Bull for that the perfect run at the end we just ended it so perfectly the whole experience I think yeah it couldn't have gone better afterwards I so cool yeah I couldn't get the helmet off though we got to the very end I could not figure out how to unclip the helmet so I did the interview with a helmet on yeah they could not hear thing as well you hear me go oh the atmosphere was electric and I know he said the electric thing and then we um yeah we Kenny from South Park hanging out with us we to I finally I got someone to take my helmet off we drove the soap box down to the graveyard thing but they said they weren't going to break it we put it to one side it might be broken and then we had to run up the hill because we had to get on the live stream to do an interview straight afterwards yeah and oh my God you realize how far we came down Running Up That thing that it was 400 to 500 M back up a relatively Steep Hill on a very hot day we were exhausted from the day before and uh being out the night before and having the race and all that kind of stuff and in boiler suits and it was a hot day boiling I got so sweaty at the top we got to the top and we were like that was just a thoroughly unenjoyable experience but it was cool cuz there I heard I don't I think I told you at the time I heard a kid as we ran past he was like oh my God racers felt like an F1 driver in that moment yeah that really went straight to my head yeah I bet we felt a lot cooler than we probably looked just running around in boiler suits and I'm my Red Bull cap on we had shades on surprised he hasn't got that red bull cap on today by the way that thing you're going to have to peel that off his dead body I've been wearing it so much lady just cuz I I love it it's good for green screen stuff that is the one thing I I might start wearing cuts out the wispy hair yeah it cuts out the wispy hair which kind of ruin the illusion I've got that real issue whereas when you wear a cap it's like a smooth round thing and the green screen just looks much better I see my editors have all been like wear a cap as often as possible oh so they even so they tell you what to do huh you're not Char they do interesting well I keep my editors locked away and then I give them footage and they're like please I want to see my family please share an editor now no King yeah we do shout out king great honestly fantastic worker his work ethic he sent me a video and like couple hours later he was like actually here's a V2 I watched it back and I I could see some improvements I was like kind of mentality and he's not been editing for long either yeah so he's I think all selft talk cow's amazing as well they're both just great honestly yeah people listening a fascinated here about how much we love our tives yeah let's get back to the Red Bull so box race so then we did our interview at the very top which is when cuz we went down first so we were Then followed by all the other creators who did the race um we didn't really get to see them at the time cuz we were running up the the bloody Hill but um we got to the top they all slowly joined us did their interview and then it got revealed the scores so there were different categories we were like ranked on or scored on the first being performance and I I'm pretty sure the style of the cart comes into that as well yeah and so we what did we get like what was it 20 22 it was really bad 40 terrible score we got like a seven a six a three and a five something like that whoever gave us a three what's wrong with you huh they were grumpy though cuz I think chip and frezy got something like 39 and the guy that person gave them a nine apparently they were really mean scoring the whole time that's crazy but chip and fzy knew about the performance thing which we I know how they knew about that we had no idea chip and freezy raced as a box of 20 chicken McNuggets yeah and they brought like homemade barbecue sauce and just on each other yeah pry just poured it all over them it was good like as performances go that's like the best thing you can do yeah so they got a really great score like almost perfect just one guy dropped a mark on it um 39 out 40 but I feel like I feel like giving us a three was really harsh I know our performance wasn't great but the music was very fitting yeah and maybe we should have pretended we were on the moon with our jumping or something like walking like that he just had such a cool carard we had so little time to think about it yeah I feel like it was harsh though look at our car that was really cool yeah maybe we were also ranked harshly because we were the first creators to go down maybe maybe we would have got a better score if we were towards the end I don't know yeah maybe but um yeah we did really bad on that and then you get obviously score for your speed in finishing the race yeah which we smashed Everyone by like four four seconds or something or seven or eight yeah like seven or eight seconds Quicks first to second and the second fastest and I think Becky and pieace got a dnf finish either they hit a minute or they stopped completely yeah cuz they went over one of the jumps and then front end broke so the wheel wasn't really like or the front was touching the floor dragging across the floor so they just I felt bad for them they just ped all across but at least they got down in one piece that's the they were just in a pint glass yeah it was really cool and they had a they had a cool performance Becky poured pint on um pie which was funny um con and Jack had a cool performance they just had some Swagger about it like yeah it was cool oh yeah we got picked on the performance but they did struggle getting into the vehicle did they yeah CU it's really hard and narrow to get in um they got they everyone got all the way to the end by the way Colin Jack fell over at the end there thing just went on its side they they chose thinner Wheels I didn't think they were going to make it that far yeah they also had a really high center of gravity cuz their car was thin and quite tall yeah like if you looked at their car it looked like it wanted to fall over it was a bit like chitty chitty bang bang but like elongated yeah so they did really well to and they were drifting it as well it was drifting so they did really well to get to the bottom um but yeah we were like seven seconds quicker than seven or eight seconds quicker than the second fastest which was it chip and freezy or was it Con I think it might have been no chip and frezy was Heavy wasn't it to be fair so that would move um and then there was People's Choice which we said we won 49% and was those were those those three so I think the reason so we ended up coming third we came third out of the four I just think it wasn't like cuz we won two out of three categories you'd think we'd win but I think they gave they were sort of like weighted yeah so because we were so low on the performance us being ahead on the other two bits didn't pull us up enough I think it's really harsh I think it doesn't matter at all by the way I don't I don't care but I do think it's harsh that performance is weighted so heavily in comparison to like speed has got to be the most important thing yeah like it's a race I know that's that's the way we were looking at it that's because it's a race come on we were focus on the race as aspect obviously soap boxes isn't Formula 1 is supposed to be like a bit of fun cretive stuff which you do get um but yeah hard winning two out of three categories and winning the race comfortably well it was more like at in the moment when they were revealing who won out of us four I was thinking in my head oh we've definitely won yeah after winning we got like 50% of the votes for People's Choice so it was a landslide Victory they said and a landslide Victory on the speed so I was thinking we have smashed those two things so surely we've gained loads of points for that yeah and we came third I was like I'm actually quite shocked by that I in my head I was thinking oh my God we've won yeah but um no it was so means anything like there's I don't there's nothing for it yeah I was just surprised but genuinely so it was so good yeah it was it was definitely definitely one of the best things I've ever done I was so glad that we did it I can't wait for the proper video to come out and have it all like a documentary s of documented archive just being like Oh I can look back at that video that was a banger yeah oh it was it was really good um then we stuck around and watched some public racing um and yeah there was it was it was nice there was a nice like area where you could get food and stuff and the worms showed up oh yeah lots of the patreon supporters a couple of N and non patreon people showed up lots of podcast people I'm guessing everyone there was podcast listeners because I didn't really put it on any platform no I think it it was all podcast we spoken about on the on on the podcast and in the patreon group chat quite a lot yeah and that was pretty much it so thank you well regardless if it's yeah thank you guys for coming along cuz it was so nice speaking to everyone great really great to have your support um yeah and yeah you guys were there for most of the day just like stood by our um what do you call it Soap Box stood by our Soap Box we were coming over when we could to say hi and stuff yeah everyone got photos we oh my goodness quite a lot of people wanted us to draw tattoos for them oh dear and we are not artistic no we're close yeah I'm a letter away but I not draw sa in my life and I was like the only thing I could think of was the rocket emoji yeah that was pretty good to be fair I was trying to draw them but getting the three little things at the bottom and the fire I was like I was like show this to your artist and they'll get what I'm trying to draw yeah they'll understand I mean I just ended up drawing flowers CU it's the easiest thing to draw it's got nothing to do with me a lot of art what just happened you just got bored of your own conversation I just yawned I was hoping you take it off me really quickly cuz I yawned no someone asked for a cameo once where they were like can you draw something for us to do a tattoo and I did a a ringed planet oh nice and oh my goodness trying to get cuz obviously if you put the circle there first the ring that goes in front like cuts through lines and it looks crap so you've kind of got to start with the ring but obviously just as the ring curves back around you have to stop and then you have to imagine where the sphere is going to be and oh my goodness I burnt through about half this notebook trying to get one that just looks semi-reasonable so whoever invented Saturn fair enough yeah exactly that must have been difficult and Uranus yep that's also ringed yeah um many too many rings yeah I've got a ring do you oh yeah and that weekend batch proposed to me so I said yes no I'm talking about my ass what anyway um it was it was a different kind of proposition to the one you were thinking of yours is way cuter than mine and I said no oh hell no I just got that that's disgusting cuz I was like on Saturday night we were just chilling we were like go we're exhausted yeah and I was like do you want to just stay around and Bach was like yeah so we played fornite and watch scary movies yeah he took me to get sushi again yeah we went to sticks and Sushi again but I was like I kind of want to make more videos but we were just so tired yeah I it was too late you just what you made me watch horror stuff we we watched a bunch of scary videos on YouTube like real ghost sightings and short horror movies and I was like I've wanted to do videos like that with you ages I was like then was the perfect time but our energy was just shock yeah we'll do it we'll definitely do it another time though CU people just love that love that horror game yeah is entertaining to watch other people get scared people don't want to watch you have fun they want to watch you cringe and be scared people enjoyed us having fun of Minecraft true but you were scared of I died like five six times I'm not very good clearly everyone's making fun of me did I die once I didn't I don't think no but your spirit died at one point hell no my spirit my spirit was always my spirit were through the roof um when I was getting attacked by Leona Lewis and I was hiding in the house turns out Leona Lewis can't go in water so I should have just gone in water I saw that comment yeah thanks for that thanks for the comment I'm actually going to use that logic and I I already want to film episode three right now do you yeah it was so fun we'll do it this week actually it's so fun like I enjoy playing it we're just loading up M fil although he needs a he needs a setup can we can we tell this boy to put some money towards a proper setup he plays on his PlayStation so we have to play Bedrock Edition so I can't use my nice shaders that make the waters and everything look clean and all the like graphics and stuff you know the like it's T's water we're keeping it the graphics upgrades are insane look just just a bit enjoy a humble bit of like Minecraft where it's nostalgic not everything has to be polished yeah okay fine um but no it was it was really good fun and it is it is I do love that we can just do that kind of stuff and just play a game and it would be fun yeah um we can just like high five when we want yeah anyway um back to let's go back in time to um the end of the race he wet himself no he didn't he didn't no he didn't but um I just want to make sure that we covered everything no because we didn't speak about um the stunt the stunts oh yeah you should tell them about the stunt they they just flung on you they didn't tell you until yeah they didn't tell me about this before and they made me sign my rights away yeah and it it was they had already Ked off the live stream so you just had to do it yeah um we basically batch got nice one he got pulled aside and they were like oh is the driver we're testing your reflexes yeah and what did they do they so she dropped a ruler and you just had to grab the ruler um as soon as she dropped it and just see how many centimeters you let drop to judge your reaction time I didn't do I think I came second actually nice but on the practice I failed uh so I was like oh that was nice and peaceful and fun I wonder what mine's going to be and they get me and they they I put this heart monitor on and I was like what they put this heart monitor on me put me in the middle of this cage and this dude called like Douglas or something comes up in this massive dirt bike and just goes like I'll lie down in the middle and I was like I know exactly where this is going got R to me and Jack just start planking and he's sort of in this giant he giant of a man I swear he's like 6'4 in this massive dirt bike and he's sort of there like on one wheel bouncing the like wheel like an inch from my head and I'm like if he just if anything misjudges he crushes my skull yeah like we we we lose one of the Bright Young talents of this generation and you as well wait what do you mean well they'd get Jack and you oh yeah yeah good old Jack and then then he was doing like wheelies around your head like just driving past full speed past his head yeah it was giving me the E actually see lie down there insane and I was just like well I'm playing it cool cuz that's like the name of the game it'd be cringe if I got up and I mean they they even said that if you get up you're at risk of just getting your head whacked cuz he's like an inch within your head so if you move it until you die yeah um and for like a minute he just did this and bounced around and yeah you were down there for a hot minute yeah we were there for ages just getting driven around I thought oh this is just getting this is just cruel now yeah I mean the poor boy is just lying there with a boner by the way uh because he gets that happens when he gets scared just why you think I keep getting you for horror games oh no i h on a Bo so he's just doing circling circling circling around Arthur on the floor it just I just felt a bit sorry for him in the end yeah uh so that was terrifying but good F night you know I'm up for anything I did realized the other day I'm just one of his friends who's just up for thing yeah you are actually someone could be like hey we're going to sit inside and watch movies tonight I be like fine or they can be like come on man we're robbing a bank I'm like cool they'll be like come on going glamping for the weekend do you is that real though if I said or okay let's go and watch the Euros tonight fine let's do it England England this is the last night of the group stage and all of a sudden the mood is really dead because we're just through now we've not played well either it's been pathetic there I said it and Harry Kane when you finally come on this podcast I've got some strong words to have with you mine mine Reserve is Gareth Southgate and not bringing BR and not playing kobby Mayu okay sorry Harry Kane actually way he's playing phenomenally to be not as if we're missing him but I'm mad at you Southgate yeah Italy um not playing too bad oh my goodness you're Italian did you watch the game last night and they scored the 90th plus eight to go through 98th minute it was the draw against Croatia oh that was heartbreaking poor the thing is they probably would have gone through anyway as one of the people third but um it's nice to confirm it you know yeah those moments of elation just so hard I think Italy just like a decent Striker anyway we won't bore you with football because a lot of people probably don't care about football yeah um but yeah I mean I'm getting into F1 now yes you are you watch drive to survive right yeah I've been watching drive to surv I need to get on that I really want to watch that um and hence why the Red Bull so box race I was really in I was really in my element Because You Loved does it make you love Red Bull as well the driver to survive does it follow a particular team it follows the mall and to be honest I haven't really got like a team I really um it's not like I really want to see this team win it's more people that you care about it's good to see Red Bull doing well but um I like Lando do you yeah you're Lando Norris enjoyer I'm a Lando enjoyer I like them all to be fair from what I've seen I like I get I like Char all oh cuz he kind he kind of looks like Charles mclair uh yeah I get uh Lando Norris a lot people always say like L nor I'm not sure about that boy and uh obviously like V stappen red the Red Bull goat what batch V stappen high five what does that even mean batch for steppen me batch for steppen batch for steppen me instead of Max for Sten batch for Sten it's one of the only times that batch really goes into anything batch for Sten what do people nickname you at school get tuna boy cuz I've brought in tuna fish boy uh right I was going duckling I was going for more names like name related like okay because I was oh name related I was I was called nothing I was just called Arthur I don't know why I said it like that I was called Nothing me yeah had no friends at school no I didn't really people would say ice as a joke ice yeah I just I didn't like not having a cool nickname name my sister one of my sisters calls me Izzy that's really cringe and feminine yo she watches these which is fine yo she watches these apologize down the lens right now I apologize nothing cuz it is it was true it was my truly held opinion and you should never apologize for being yourself sometimes she calls me Elizabeth as well what and I don't really know where she got that from she started that was a good what what yeah she watches it where she works as she was working she'll have it on Gizzy by the way I didn't get cancelled for what Sunday came out where I waterboarded Chris I haven't watched that and I was seriously worried I was genuinely like I thought you know just some people on the internet can be real yeah cuz they might be like oh you're making fun of water boarding people actually die from water boarding that's not what I exactly what I meant oh because okay you can't waterboard Chris because he doesn't like water and some people have been drowned before no okay of course because because you shouldn't do water boarding because it's like saying this is something you should it's really on impressionable fans and they'll be like okay I'm going to water board my mom tonight right maybe maybe that was like oh you shouldn't do that on to an impression I'm going to cancel you right now in that case um but no I I I just thought people would be like oh that was so mean of him they're not friends like just you know when you don't really know I mean obviously anyone who's seen Chris and videos knows how much abuse he puts me through I mean that guy abuse shs down on my neck like there's no tomorrow he's just I I'll just be chilling mid shootting he'll just go on my traps I mean granted they're juicy like they're nice muscular defined um have you ever thought you might just be a vampire I don't know hiding in plain sight you know you've got two Pierce marks right there you getting sucked by you've got really garlicky breath so I don't think I could be a a vampire cuz otherwise let's not start rumors like that otherwise I'd run there's not start rumors like that yeah my breath smells like daisies rainbows fairy tales I'm always chewing gum you are always chewing gum you're a real gum chewer yeah it Bo it boosts your confidence it's like putting a pair of sunglasses on I'm glad you don't do it on the podcast that would be the most annoying thing to listen to I have done it before but I just tuck it into my teeth like snz you don't mean that it's gum you don't mean that it's gum it's just weird you don't mean that it's gum gum started freaking out you know we were speaking about eggs the other day when you you're Midway through eating heads and you're like wait up yeah that's a period something ain't right that's a menstrual cycle raor and you're like yeah well that weirdly makes me like it more it's more than I knew you were a feminist me too come on yeah um we do like to bring awareness to the fact that women exist and have Cycles cuz I I I mentioned menstrual cycles all the time and I in one of my YouTube videos I was like I've got to stop saying menstrual cycles drop a comment if you think I should stop saying menual cycle everyone's like no and someone's like no it actually feels kind of feminist in a weird way cuz you're bringing light to the fact of cuz not everyone knows that women have I think everyone knows women have periods I found out 3 days ago watching your video you thought they had penis what I just thought they merely existed they merely exist in a in a realm Between Heaven and Hell where somewhere I love doesn't exist what the hell is this guy talking about women only exist in heaven women are heaven on Earth in my opinion how does that song Go heaven heaven for what it's worth women are heaven on Earth women are heaven on Earth brother in Christ you don't know what you're talking about right now I feel like we're getting on to Serious brain rot have you got anything else this is a rare batch prepared actually been praying preparing a lot um all of the episodes lately we've actually yeah hence why the quality's increased um no you just you do stuff in a different way I like like reading and talking reading well next episode's prepared by by Arthur and we'll be filming this directly after this one yeah we're doing complet transparency cuz batch is way on holiday and I'm going to be honest because I'm not I've not brought a spare pair of clothes anyway yeah me neither I don't want to hear no comments like why is he wearing that shirt again well they should be comenting CU alth this on an episode before quite frankly Arthur is either can I just say by the way I predicted what you were going to be wearing on the Red Bull meal I said Arthur will turn up in Black corduroy shorts um and a cream beige top shirt either worn as an overshirt with a white t-shirt underneath or just a shirt that's exactly what you were that's true I mean I have two other pairs of shorts I had a black like pair that were like had textured but the waistband thing snapped hard to find a good pair of shorts and then I had a nice like cream beige pair yeah um but they were just like I don't know linen and just ended up being a bit too and take it from a guy a sleepover with him he doesn't take them off he showers in them he goes me to take them off he was like take them off take them off take them off and I was like leave me alone yeah I was like please wash please wash you were just misreading me I wasn't saying take them off I was like please wash please wash anyway I I got the um I went into the patreon chat o uh little plug if you want to join the patreon go ahead there's a chat you get early access to episodes they get uploaded all the time and Bullies me in it yeah I do speak in there a fair amount um and I said to them we're filming two pods today can you guys reply to this message with any questions you have about the Red Bull Soapbox race we're going to be doing a whole episode on it uh because I thought there might be you know they might want to know more information on how it was built or how we were feeling and stuff and we could just give us some insight to that we've just explained the day how cool it was blah blah blah but they want to know the BTS let's see how insightful their questions can be okay did you hurt your nose that's [ __ ] rude no I didn't that obviously pointed at you no I didn't to be fair I did we had said in an episode prior that there was no foam and we are going to smash our faces in they put foam in we had good helmets on but we didn't actually crash so yeah we didn't crash so although his coxic bone is in pain yeah my coxics I'm absolutely fine because I'm not weak that's your tailbone um may ask for us highly evolved Apes that was from Brooke by the way I'll say names shout outs May says how SL why did you decide to build a rocket why I guess cuz it's very on brand for us have a look at our mugs yep yeah I mean we're just we're were're a Spacey themed podcast for no apparent reason we genely I'm sure we said in the earlier episodes we had no plans to be themed and bats just randomly one day went let's just make it space themed I just think it's cool yeah me I just think we both think it's cool we do we just need a cool set I think most of the things we do is because we think oh that's cool like the Soap Box we thought oh it'd be cool if we did a a ship or a ufi yeah just cuz it just cuz it's funny someone actually messaged in for the next one I've got like the submissions from the normal submissions page which everyone can enter just go to our any of our socials at Bach and arur and in the link there's like a a link tree and one of them is the submissions form and they were like what is your target audience because I can't really figure it out and I'm studying media at the moment target audience is such a big thing and I was like we don't have one we just come on talk about whatever we find interesting yeah and just hope that some people agree yeah and the people who do listen are actually very um diverse yeah and intelligent and cool and good looking and all this yeah um so yeah no um yeah and it's weird because we're not sitting there going oh let's talk about this to appeal to this audience which I think is I mean somehow it works so thank you guys for tuning into thanks cuz I think if you analyzed it in like a media class and it was like oh one minute you're doing brain rot meme references and the next you're talking about s men and then the next we're talking about Greek philosophy and the next one like Roman Parables and then religion they'd be like well someone's going to listen to the one episode like it and then not like the rest yeah but for some reason people just like listening to it all really I think we just decided that we're just going to do what we want like yeah whatever we enjoy yeah like whatever we enjoy and whatever we F feel like talking about we're just going to do it because if you want to enjoy something you've like if you want this if we want this podcast to continue we've got to enjoy it and if we're looking at it tactically like Oh Let's do an episode on this so we can boost our audience in this demographic it will start to feel like a like a real job well like you know I've heard from other people that do podcasts that their producers will be like today you're having this guest on and they're like well I've never watched the show they're on or Never follow them don't care about the story but I've got to do it's nice that we kind of have a just able to just go oh whatever and I do think the stuff we talk about is interesting broadly like if you're someone who like whenever we meet or speak to anyone who watches the podcast they're always like oh I love like these types of interesting discussions I feel like if you have a generally curious mind yeah like if if people who are listening to this and enjoy it are going to be similar to us in that respect and they you know even if they don't have a an interest in any of the particular like they might be like oh I love hearing about religion I'm a curious person but they don't care about Greek philosophy yeah or anything when we speak about the ship of thesis they're still like oh it's an interesting thought like it's an interesting thought so if you're one of those types of people like us then all that kind of stuff is interesting I guess thus our our demographic is people who just have similar interests to us yeah or like have a similar outlook on life or yeah that's the thing it's not even like it's just it's the broad value of curiosity I think who just like they like to laugh they like a bit of Comedy cuz we even get people who disagree with us and they're like oh I'm religious I completely disagree with this all but it was so interesting to listen to and so they're not listening because we're speaking about things that they find um they agree with or they enjoy you know but they're going like oh like I like the way these topics are approached or the way this is discussed and yeah so yeah hopefully we'll try and keep that up um hey no way we're going to brain Rock 24/7 after here or no anyway um Connie asked what was your top speed we don't actually know but what did you think it was 30 well when we passed we passed the speed gate at what will be one of the fastest points and that was 30 okay mil K yeah km pH um Leia says do you think you were going to make it to the Finish Line did you think you were going to make it to the Finish Line I genuinely um did not think we were going to make it past the chicane to be honest yeah cuz I didn't realize the course was as wide as it was however the as narrow as it was you mean actually yeah yes and no the thing is it's like driving a car when you're in a car it looks like you're you're bigger than the road but actually you can fit in much smaller of a gap than you expect yourself to be able to and so when you're actually in the soap box when we were doing the chicane in my head I thought we're going to catch one of the hay bals and go flying but actually although it was actually pretty close watching it back it felt like I had enough room to get round and stuff well two hay bals we did fully slic through well yeah if the wings were like flat fronted we would have we could have just spun out flown but because the wings were just like yeah we the first one and then the second one we through that yeah um but in no I didn't think we were going to make it down in one piece to be honest I thought either we'd get to the end and there' be damage or we'd fall over at the end or we just wouldn't make it to the end cuz it's not a like it more often than not you don't make it to the end yeah so I thought statistically I didn't I didn't think we were going to make it to the end so I was surprised were you or not it's so funny because at the start you're like I really don't know but be when you're going down it's so fast and you've got to think a lot like yeah I was just constantly thinking like just monitoring whether we were going too fast or not to be like bring the speed down ever so slightly and it's everything's happening so fast you don't have time to think oh are we going to make it like any hypotheticals it's just uh pull the break break on break off break off oh my goodness are we going to make this corner are we going to too fast at how are we doing like all this kind of stuff's rushing through your head I didn't even think about it I was no so yeah I had no thoughts in my head either I think we were just on reflex at that point yeah because every yeah like Arthur said everything's coming at you so quick like before the chane I thought I had enough time to put my hand up and wave and I was like [ __ ] no I don't yeah so that's when I came back onto the wheel and did that so we really don't have much time in that thing um then Phoenix asks what was the hardest and easiest part of the creative process oh hard po was coming up with an idea for what we wanted to do as the car because we took ages like they were asking us for the design for so long and we were like we really don't know it is hard when you can do literally anything it's like the classic situation where you've got too much Choice yeah so you can't make a decision and neither necessarily creative creative types yeah so we and also it's it's difficult as well when there's two people because obviously if one person wants to do something we we agreed yeah we we didn't have any friction on what we wanted to do we because we both didn't really have an idea but you've got to make sure that what one person comes up with the other person's happy to do um but I think from the go we just suggested either a space shuttle or UFO we were both happy with those two ideas and then we had a look at some pictures and we thought okay let's go for a space sh that was it yeah so I think that um it was hard in the beginning but to to be honest the decision process was pretty easy for us in the end I do think the hardest part although that was hard I think what was harder for us was probably um building the chassis don't you think it was harder than the woodwork yeah that's probably true cuz we didn't have any engineer assistance with the underly car yeah the actual chassis itself we just had bits like we didn't have instructions for half of it we were in in a big Warehouse with just a bunch of nuts bolts rods	[Music] what's up everybody welcome back to episode 14 of the batch and Arthur podcast yay go thanks for joining everyone we have something to reveal yes we do I know you guys don't like it when Arthur has his mug on the couch because he tends to drop things don't you never dropped anything actually okay you dropped that th done remember that well you might have noticed I also have my mug on the sofa mhm wondering why who wants to know why should we tell them something to do with one like equals one Lara maybe something to do with that exactly you guys ready see what you reveal go way for audio listeners we have white mugs with our little cartoon characters on them that's right little will I didn't want to Cheers you and I've got my little handsome space guy come on yeah Lara surprised us with these this is a gift um mine shatterproof as well apparently oh it's not sh yeah he's got a plastic mug because we know what he's like I've sippy C the audio listeners actually little rubber cppy cup with two handles well actually when Arthur drinks from a mug show them how you do it I'll I'll commentate for this he uses two hands so he grabs on the like handle and then he grabs the other hand I drink everything with two hands especially tea and Pints yeah I don't really know what 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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0g_xJvKEb8	4,108	-0g_xJvKEb8	2024-06-27 00:00:00	[Music] what's up everybody welcome back to episode 14 of the batch and Arthur podcast yay go thanks for joining everyone we have something to reveal yes we do I know you guys don't like it when Arthur has his mug on the couch because he tends to drop things don't you never dropped anything actually okay you dropped that th done remember that well you might have noticed I also have my mug on the sofa mhm wondering why who wants to know why should we tell them something to do with one like equals one Lara maybe something to do with that exactly you guys ready see what you reveal go way for audio listeners we have white mugs with our little cartoon characters on them that's right little will I didn't want to Cheers you and I've got my little handsome space guy come on yeah Lara surprised us with these this is a gift um mine shatterproof as well apparently oh it's not sh yeah he's got a plastic mug because we know what he's like I've sippy C the audio listeners actually little rubber cppy cup with two handles well actually when Arthur drinks from a mug show them how you do it I'll I'll commentate for this he uses two hands so he grabs on the like handle and then he grabs the other hand I drink everything with two hands especially tea and Pints yeah I don't really know what is there a reason for that or not safety I guess twice as balanced is that really if one arm stops working the other one's there as a fail safe well there you go that's why he does it guys so it makes sense all after all yeah um speaking of batch and Arthur this podcast design right here yeah this has been plasted on something recently what our rocket ship oh yeah guys we just got back from the Red Bull Soap Box race and we're alive 2024 we genuinely were not sure we were going to survive no I was but we did really scared we we turned up we got to see other people's cards um and there was basically two things going on so there's like a public race and then the Creator race was like a separate thing which is streamed on YouTube If you go on Red Bull's um YouTube channel and you go on under the live tab you can actually watch the full thing yeah we were like a half time race yeah it was Bas half time show yeah there was a few people who weren't happy about the Creator's uh racing cuz they thought we were mixed in with the public but it's like a whole separate thing like we can't win any awards over the public or anything like that yeah um but but we won the hearts of the public come on yeah we did win the hearts of the public there was a a couple of things that you were like rated on as creators and one of them was People's Choice and we got a landslide victory of 44% yeah it actually ended up on 49% 50% out of four teams we got 49 everyone rounds 49 thank you to everyone who voted for us we one of four teams but we're up against chip and freezy who have a big loving audience Becky and pieace who audience and then con from the siden huge loving audience and the guy who's our cameraman on the train video the siden that's right Jack was there as well went to with con they had cool out but uh we we got to Ali p uh that's my first time there you've been there before actually I think we should start the day before okay let's let's reel that [ __ ] back because we had another sleepover kind of yeah we did have another let's just say oh no we didn't really a hotel yeah we did not have a sleepover but what did we do where did we first meet we we met at the we met at the hotel at the hotel dropped our bags off Adam was there he's the Red Bull guy that was been looking after us and he took all the creators out to dinner yeah we to find the tell first yeah chopped a pint um both hands come on yeah then we got in a taxi we went to dinner we had a create a dinner um what did you eat pizza yeah I had a really really hot hot pizza but the thing I was enjoying the most was the football we had a massive screen in front of us oh yeah cuz France were playing Netherlands NE scen I felt kind of harsh cuz the the table was positioned in a way that only half of us could see the football and the other half were just watching us watching football yeah but no he they were watching a react video basically they got to see us live reacting In the Flesh um but the meal was really good the food was really good uh Jake was struggling Jake the guy works with um Arthur they both got the same Pizza he was struggling with the heat yeah he was [ __ ] [ __ ] struggling with the Pint as well got two pints steep was steaming no cuz he was so in denial Jake yeah Jake had a couple pints and he was gone we were like you are drunk he like I am not drunk and he was getting angry mad I'm not even drunk he's I haven't even done anything later he's doing karaoke so that's belting out karaoke with his phone to the to the mic with with voice note on my God it's so that was you singing those Tunes to someone yeah we yeah CU you've been to a place before should we say the name of the place or not I actually I don't remember it anyway okay we went to this place anyway Arthur's been there before it's um like a karaoke bar with uh like an arcade and bowling and there's a dance floor and like a bar and stuff like that yeah very good fun we all went there did some karaoke went there for Arthur Hill's birthday that's how I found out about it what a place it is a cool place actually um yeah did a bit of karaoke we were in there for a couple hours doing karaoke in the end yeah um belting at tunes by the way batch can sing No Arthur can sing yeah but I think people would assume that from but that goes without saying no but but Frank Sinatra came on and oh my goodness batch was just cooking that thing anyone can sing Frank arra welcome back Frank Sinatra he died and this is him reborn wasn't wasn't he heavily involved with the mafia Frank Sinatra so are you you're a quter Italian that's true but I can't admit that no not legally anyway oops they're going to come and get me try and come and get me watch me beat beat you all up actually I shouldn't say what if they do don't come and get me please I was just kidding I've got nothing to do with him he lives on 32 Italian back street oh my god that actually is my house number H what don't say that it's not that's my apartment number as well no we you're not finding out where we live um I'm going to move in with Arthur anyway we moved in together on Minecraft yeah sort of anyway back to karaoke we had fun at karaoke then we went home we didn't get back till 3:00 a.m. silly move because we had to be up early yeah we had it well not that early we had 10: a.m. taxi picks up yeah but we met at breakfast at 9:30 it was the most romantic breakfast of my life yeah um and then stayed at the Hilton Red Bull of class they put us in there they also like what a lovely experience not only did they take us to dinner they they paid for karaoke and everything like that they covered everything shout out to Red Ball I'm going to crack One open right now and they're actually delicious all these colored red balls my actual favorite is the summer edition you guys should actually try this this is not sponsored but I'm just saying this is not even the first thing I I did I went to salburg in Austria and did some Red Bull salburg video shooting with Chris MD um we did like penal sh outs in games with mads bistrup for their YouTube channel and then did a video in it was the the final one of christed uh every time you beat a Defender the defender gets upgraded that's right yeah and we start off with like Harry R Shaw as the worst Defender when all the way up to Champions League mads bistr who fantastic player I mean yeah you realize how like when you watch t uh football on TV you think oh I could do that yeah but then if you see a actual Pro in real life yeah like that makes sense why you went pro now actually we need to do more charity so that was fun that was fun there are a lot going on it's just timings cuz there's so many things going on during summer and that's usually when charity matches go down yeah but you got to work in the schedules either you're away or I'm away or there's a brand trip or something has to be submitted in time was crazy yeah but um no I'm sure we're going to do a lot more stuff with Red Bull as well so that's exciting um but anyway we then got the taxi to Alex Alexandra Palace Ali pal come on and um I've only just realized that's why it's Ali P really yeah I just thought that Ali P was the hill and Alexandre Palace was no way Ali now I've just heard it okay that's Ali P right anyway U you almost did a off the TV intro that right right so then we uh we got into the race so no we got into the Zone where the race was going on yeah and we got to have a little scout out all the public submitted soap boxes some really cool stuff in there yeah although there was one weird one because we rock up and there are like four girls gathered around water is essentially a double bed one girl just tucked up and you back like oh this is cool and she was like yeah it's really cozy get in we were like no I I ain't doing all that I'm sure though that you know that wasn't actually her like lying in it yeah I know you could tell something was weird under the covers but I was not getting involved what what what the hell um oh you can't see my soundboard I've got to pull this back so I can soundboard here yeah he hasn't got a soundboard yet thank goodness although I should no they all see the comments by the way Lara and Arthur see the comments and Lara even said into the group chat she was like I think we need to get bat of soundboard because of all the comments she sent me a message being like listen we've got one purchase a year we can authorize either we get cool mugs or batch gets a soundboard and I was like mugs mugs oh hell no I just think it's so much funnier when you do it yourself and go to I do think so but this is going to get worn down and eventually there's going to be a Hole uh oh audio listeners don't know what I'm doing I I just I pretend there's a soundboard and I just push the sof and make my I do it as well I do it in real life I'll be speaking to people when I'm BR but it doesn't make his much sense in real life just in a conversation he's just air poking stuff as he goes brh you know what's so funny as well I showed batch this someone one of you guys one of our listeners because cuz I you do it quite a lot but I do it all the time at you do the what yeah what that thing someone did a Tik Tok called whatting people in public so she goes into this petrol station goes to pay she goes like how much is that and he goes like Oh 1350 and she just goes what loud so loud just yells it in this man's face and everyone was like bad bad you guys have to recreate this it was so funny yeah and then Arthur was like we've got to do this we've got I don't know if I have the like what is it um social confidence to do that I'd be able to do it not yell it I thought it was a bit rude though the loud yelling not in a bad I'm not criticizing you I just able to do that like that myself I'd be like what I think sorry you got no no soup of the day what what when you have a camera on you though that you get a new found confidence in public like I found no no no in general I don't know if you agree with this in like a sidan video I Feel Like rules don't apply like social rules then don't apply cuz you've got a camer on you and you can do what you want whatever you want yeah I've only recently started being able to finally find it within myself to Vlog like when we were at wagas I was like this is actually fine yeah whereas before IID look at people vlogging in public and I go I admire you a lot cuz I can never do that it helps having people around you yeah although I feel like we do it with our phones it's a bit easier that's true whereas if people with their cameras out like facing their way I'm like oh my goodness I'd be so embarrassed yeah I think I would be as well especially if you got like a big rig on the end of that thing people are just admiring you your rig yeah both of them come on anyway um what speaking of the soap boxes that we saw um there was this one there was like these four guys like lying down chilling and they had this like Dome oh yeah which was kind of like a I guess like a spa you know the space shuttles that come down to earth it kind of looked a bit like that didn't yeah um like a landing module yeah like a landing module and they what did what did they make it off fiberglass or something yeah oh my God you could smell it from where we were still and they were like stick your head in that so we stuck it you stuck your head in first took a whiff and I did it afterwards oh my God dizzying genuinely dizzying I'm high I'm still high from that moment if anyone's ever been in like a a surfboard shop where they like make the surfboards yeah it smells like that it just smell exactly like that and they bizarre I just burped on I thought that was what that was that was disgusting hopefully that didn't get picked up apologize sorry guys sorry if you heard that cut that out anyway um it's not getting cut uh it they had to spend the whole run down in that thing so I think those guys are a little bit waved yeah I'm glad we I'm glad we were just a team of two and had two seats because I kind of felt bad some people that pushed the Soap Box thing down yeah like running after it for like 50 meters and it was a hot day that's true like um most people was like a team of four and two would push two would be in it I think that's standard isn't it to have two people in the so box and then a team that will push and Chase it down probably chase down chip and freezies yeah funny it was funny as well the way he was running because I guess it was like a it was like Looney Tunes the way he had his arms up like that chasing them down to be fair there are people I felt more bad for he talking about some of the injuries of the day oh my God and this is the thing like good gosh man we were already nervous then we were then we got to S see our um vehicle which they had made some mods to by the way so put me at ease a little bit they put foam in the place where my head would smash oh yeah so I felt about that yeah um they didn't they were going to cut out the wheel arches so we could turn more but they didn't I'm glad they I actually think that worked in our favor in it did um and they were actually slagging it off when it went up on towards stage they were speaking about it on Mike and they were like they can't turn properly they can't see over it and I was thinking oh no they're slagging off our thing they were talking about our buckets on the back and stuff I don't know if they were slagging off the buckets or just speaking about I just heard bucket like they're talking about ours oh my god um but it actually worked in favor and then there was screens up showing the first runs and it took a while it like an hour or two after we got there till the first run um but did you see the Sheep one no I didn't see any of the big ones but that's a bad one there was a sheep we I was watching a sheep go down um it was just before you did your stunt I think and it got all the way to the end and then at full speed flipped over onto their necks and I think it was one of them that broke their collarbone and it looked awful and after seeing that me and pieace was stood together we were like I we genuinely don't want to go down after seeing that he was [ __ ] it I was [ __ ] it um and then not only that I think other people must have like been bruised or whatever but the other big one that we heard about is we when we got to the start line we were there waiting for like 10 minutes and it was cuz the person who went down before us got knocked out so that's crazy yeah which I didn't see I don't think we'll ever see any footage of that but I don't know what vehicle it was or anything I just heard that they got knocked out that's why we were up there for ages yeah I mean it was going down insanely fast yeah it look I mean it looks quick on camera but it doesn't look nearly as quick as it feels yeah when you're in that thing oh my goodness and you can barely see in front of you you're bouncing all over the place you're hitting these jumps there are bits where there's foam that like splashes you in the face you have a few seconds of blindness yeah it's mental it it to best describe it definitely feels faster than sitting in a car at 60 MPH I'd say faster than it feels sitting in a car going 100 yeah cuz you're so exposed to we've never gone 100 I've been on the auto bar in Germany okay fair um but yeah you're exposed so it just feels so quick but we were quick insanely Qui insanely quick I think everyone we were the first of the creators to go up everyone thought we were going to just crash yeah or just be crap and slow there was so many comments so many DMs I got afterward was like [ __ ] fair enough before we even went down though before we get cuz we we will react we'll show you us going down yeah but I think we should tell them actually maybe should we hit play and then we'll pause at certain bits to be like explainer yeah I'll tell you what it plays it goes all the way through and then they do it in slow-mo afterwards we can on the slow-mo we'll do some explanation okay here we go batch and Arthur we had the podcast sticker oh it was such a good sticker on the side which was really cool and they zoomed in out loads for the YouTube video which is great yeah was all over the stream which was ideal although you cannot see podcast there until someone shads over it yeah someone's just shattering we were stood up there for ages genuinely yeah because someone had just been knocked out looking down this hill that was just so steep it's not funny but look at that thing that's so impressive it's so well built I can't believe it and I'm I'm gutted because I actually wanted to say to the we had a little bit of help from the Red Bull Engineers yeah I wanted to say thank you to them more just be like what did you see that that was really good yeah if anyone knows anything by any chance please pass on our thanks because yeah they they helped us hopefully they watched it and saw a great deal uh but we did do a lot I mean we did spend two full days building this thing and printing it up and stuff so yeah which you'll obviously see in the Vlog I'll talk about I'll talk about something later cuz there's um this was posted to Tik Tok and there's some funny comments on there really basically yeah basically calling us desk dwellers what so this is our performance so this performance we didn't know we no was supposed to do we we were told to choose a piece of music so we chose something like Space Odyssey style but we had no idea that meant we had to perform yeah and like like she's saying like there are points for performance and we knew about 10 minutes beforehand that this 30 second period of Music we'd have to Performance so we were like let's just do something simple gum shields in the mouth bow and get in and they were harsh they gave us a three but that also also counts to the way the vehicle looks so I think three is Harsh yeah but here we go performance score 22 poor but this is when we started racking up speed the steering was really weird as well cuz it changed as we got quicker and we were just bouncing as we went down like we'd hit a ramp and oh my goodness like almost front flipped that around we Whi around the corner and our our genuine one of our wings like clipped a ha Bell and just sliced through it that one sliced through the hay Bell I was thinking as we came down I swear I would have hit that side had I not hit that side and then nailed the braking and you said you could smell burnt rubber when you were breaking on that thing cuz I was like tickling the brakes like before a jump every now and then I do one all as we approached the chicane I pulled it yeah um but they said as we were going down in the commentary like yeah oh this feels fast usually you're hitting like low 20s here and it comes up on the side and we're hitting 30 km an hour yeah we were going and we were oh my goodness I'm glad you didn't break touch the break though we didn't need it yeah yeah I mean you did a did a little bit but I mean the others obviously touched it a lot more yeah I basically kept us at a speed where I was like this is very close to the line of like where we can make this corner at the speed because at the end of the day as a race and I was like we don't want to get up at the end and just be like oh like a couple of the soite boxes made it halfway down and just like stopped completely yeah and they were like having to like like I don't know like Shake It Forward it's so awkward like we did speak and we did say we'd actually rather crash going pretty quick than come to a grinding hle because it's just not good material yeah like we did it for Content wants to see that it's for a video we know representing creators at half time yeah so many people watching we've got a space shuttle that is designed at a velocity of 17,000 500 mph yeah so we were like you know hitting to be honest when they gave us those uh cuz we asked for special helmets that covered the face yeah when they gave me that I felt invincible and I thought oh [ __ ] it and we had gum Shields that we like ped poured into boiling water molded them before and molded them so we we felt pretty safe yeah I mean but still at 30 we weren but I don't have miles hour or kilm an hour I think it was mph I actually do really yeah but whatever it is at 30 like genuinely like just whacking your head against something solid is well I mean someone did get knocked out and broke it was terrifying yeah they they then do a slow-mo okay let's watch the slow-mo and we can break down exactly because I was thinking there was a point in the chicane when we really Whi round I was thinking why did that happen it was because the back right wheel wasn't on the ground when we were coming up to the chicane so when it touched the the ground it turned us into a corner so I was like [ __ ] and I had to spin it around one way and then back around the other way oh that's why we had that major wobble yeah and you can see it it's like it's cuz one of the wheels wasn't on the ground okay let's let's watch and like in the first one we'll try and go for the audio listeners kind of describe what we're seeing yeah so the first jump yeah we it was a heavy a heavy bit of Kit as well we definitely had one of the heavier ones it and it was like so we got through here the back that wheel wasn't on the ground so like had to correct it well the chicane of just having to go really quick left and then really quick right after yeah and then this pit we hit a bunch of stairs and bch basically grinds on the right hand of them it's cuz afterwards we had to be on the right hand side so I was thinking I can't turn directly after I'm going to have to turn on the ramp like the CL the the course is split in two with like steps on the left and straight on the right and we go down the steps but like half dangling off yeah you have a choice whether to do jumps or not obviously we were going to do the jumps cuz you get docked time um no they add time on if you go round cuz it's a bit unfair yeah but we you were just like let's head it yeah and after the first jump it it looks like we really jump around I don't know about you but in it it didn't feel that bad I I think I'm the exact opposite cuz I was going flying and my bum still Hur May was our positioning or cuz I was holding on to this when yeah I had nothing to hold on to I was just sat on a blue seat I re yeah I reckon that's what it was cuz it kept me like sort of planted you fix and you're in the center so with us like when when you go off the Jump the nose sort of goes down yeah it did and then the back col kicks up into the air and then slams down and because I'm at the back you really got you know I've got a lot further to fall and I just got whacked and my butt like when I sit on the sofa like no I can feel it bruised on I was actually un unscared I was absolutely fine yeah God it was um after that first jump though I got a lot more confidence in the run I was thinking oh that was fine I can we can do all the [ __ ] jumps yeah I just got full speed no I rate it I'm so glad you just sent it cuz and you I mean you didn't have a choice sending it yeah you just you na yeah exactly you could SL down but uh I they miked us did they mic you up CU they miked me up but I said nothing the whole run yeah why would you you couldn't because the thing is I was so focused I think it's because we went so quick because there's a Red Bull posted a video on their Tik Tok page where because they miked up chip and freezy and um it's off chip speaking to freezy and he's like on the brakes off the brakes okay we're going to go around this now and I think it's CU they were using the brakes and communicating about the brakes that they had stuff to say but because we were just you told me before you weren't going to touch the brake so I thought okay he's really not there's no point saying anything and you know whether it's a Brak or not so I was just thinking I'm just going to drive I was literally only thinking like I'm only going to slow us down if I feel like at this speed we either can't hit that jump properly or can't go around the corner and I was just tickling it and it was only at the end like I was like I've got to wait until we cross the finish line before I can break and I just Ram it and because it was a friction break it's like literally a metal bar that just pulls down onto both of the rear wheels it just starts smelling like burning rubber actually nailed that was so good though cuz we literally landed after that last jump we landed and I was like [ __ ] the Finish is right there and all I could hear was I just knew he pulled that thing so hard we came around the corner and didn't touch a single thing because he broke just in time yeah and the thing was untouched like the they said they it could get sent back to one of us so I send it to my house um I got I didn't tell you this yet I got a DM from someone saying I'm just about to watch your soap box get destroyed what no it's been graveyard we took it to a graveyard but we put it to one side no they told us we could have it uh yeah oh the guy might be lying I I pray he is cuz that's so harsh but I saw it in the DM request I was like [ __ ] surely not we should M message Adam but I think a big part of the reason we couldn't speak or do much else is because we weren't so full s we did that in 36 seconds chip and freezy were the second fastest in our group I think and they were 44 seconds yeah so we were we were literally seven or eight seconds I mean I don't exactly know what their milliseconds were but we were seven or eight seconds faster than them and I mean the difference like you watch them go down and they're sort of doing a decent speed but I thought them being go- karters you know they've got their Senor frogs they race every year yeah I was like they're going to bomb it too yeah but they kind of just played it relatively safe I mean good time time but like I do think we we absolutely Center and we had this guy come up to us at the end like should you say yeah say and this guy comes up to us and go don't like freak out now or anything um but we're checking because we genuinely think this was one of the fastest of all time yeah like fastest soap boxes ever he thought we hit the world record run right there and then and they cuz they had to check them by the millisecond yeah and we were a fraction of a second off being the fastest ever 1 18 of a second something something ridiculous like that and uh so I think we were either the second or the third fastest of all time yeah there were rumors at the end of the day and I don't know whether it was Chip just winding us up being like the last car of the day was slightly faster yeah they they yeah they said something like the last car of the day actually broke the world record so if that is true we're the third fastest of all time if not we are the second fastest of all time to go down that track and we rather the second of the first fastest of this year's event which is just just the coolest thing ever like we to be fair have also like we couldn't have picked a design that was Better Built For Speed I mean it's so people were saying this is this is aerodynamic and I was thinking it is but I don't think it's going to make that much of a difference in this yeah scenario and whether it did or not or whether it was just the fact that you didn't break much yeah I think that was it it was quite heavy it was heavy as well you had one of the heavy ones so at the start you can tell this was one of the things we were saying we should have got two people cuz we only got Jake to shove us at the start yeah and when when you start off just going down the ramp it took us a while to pick up speed if we had sort of been shoved and started at a really good pace and kept it at that pace I genely think we could have built the record but I'm I want to do it again same that's why I wanted to keep that cuz we could have just modified that and send it down we know that's a winning formula yeah make it into a submarine or something yeah exactly that thing works but Red Bull like they they we had such a great time with them they did so much for us and we were so grateful and we were speaking see nothing guaranteed and stuff um but they were saying there's a potential for us to come back and maybe do the one that you know you launch off a ramp and you're like 10 m up whatever and you've got to Glide over water as far as possible there and there are loads of other sort of like cool Red Bull events and stuff to do so um yeah I think we make this a thing if we can do just more of this stuff yeah I loved it it was genuinely one of the best things I've ever done I think yeah and there's a the the the only annoying thing is there's so much footage it's going to take a while to get the video together because Red Bull have Clips we have clips they've sent us a hard driver clipse I've got stuff on my phone B has stuff on his phone Jake has stuff on his phone so we'll gather it all together but when the video comes out I think it'll be such a good one because so good the whole experience was just the coolest thing ever and we couldn't be more grateful to Red Bull for that the perfect run at the end we just ended it so perfectly the whole experience I think yeah it couldn't have gone better afterwards I so cool yeah I couldn't get the helmet off though we got to the very end I could not figure out how to unclip the helmet so I did the interview with a helmet on yeah they could not hear thing as well you hear me go oh the atmosphere was electric and I know he said the electric thing and then we um yeah we Kenny from South Park hanging out with us we to I finally I got someone to take my helmet off we drove the soap box down to the graveyard thing but they said they weren't going to break it we put it to one side it might be broken and then we had to run up the hill because we had to get on the live stream to do an interview straight afterwards yeah and oh my God you realize how far we came down Running Up That thing that it was 400 to 500 M back up a relatively Steep Hill on a very hot day we were exhausted from the day before and uh being out the night before and having the race and all that kind of stuff and in boiler suits and it was a hot day boiling I got so sweaty at the top we got to the top and we were like that was just a thoroughly unenjoyable experience but it was cool cuz there I heard I don't I think I told you at the time I heard a kid as we ran past he was like oh my God racers felt like an F1 driver in that moment yeah that really went straight to my head yeah I bet we felt a lot cooler than we probably looked just running around in boiler suits and I'm my Red Bull cap on we had shades on surprised he hasn't got that red bull cap on today by the way that thing you're going to have to peel that off his dead body I've been wearing it so much lady just cuz I I love it it's good for green screen stuff that is the one thing I I might start wearing cuts out the wispy hair yeah it cuts out the wispy hair which kind of ruin the illusion I've got that real issue whereas when you wear a cap it's like a smooth round thing and the green screen just looks much better I see my editors have all been like wear a cap as often as possible oh so they even so they tell you what to do huh you're not Char they do interesting well I keep my editors locked away and then I give them footage and they're like please I want to see my family please share an editor now no King yeah we do shout out king great honestly fantastic worker his work ethic he sent me a video and like couple hours later he was like actually here's a V2 I watched it back and I I could see some improvements I was like kind of mentality and he's not been editing for long either yeah so he's I think all selft talk cow's amazing as well they're both just great honestly yeah people listening a fascinated here about how much we love our tives yeah let's get back to the Red Bull so box race so then we did our interview at the very top which is when cuz we went down first so we were Then followed by all the other creators who did the race um we didn't really get to see them at the time cuz we were running up the the bloody Hill but um we got to the top they all slowly joined us did their interview and then it got revealed the scores so there were different categories we were like ranked on or scored on the first being performance and I I'm pretty sure the style of the cart comes into that as well yeah and so we what did we get like what was it 20 22 it was really bad 40 terrible score we got like a seven a six a three and a five something like that whoever gave us a three what's wrong with you huh they were grumpy though cuz I think chip and frezy got something like 39 and the guy that person gave them a nine apparently they were really mean scoring the whole time that's crazy but chip and fzy knew about the performance thing which we I know how they knew about that we had no idea chip and freezy raced as a box of 20 chicken McNuggets yeah and they brought like homemade barbecue sauce and just on each other yeah pry just poured it all over them it was good like as performances go that's like the best thing you can do yeah so they got a really great score like almost perfect just one guy dropped a mark on it um 39 out 40 but I feel like I feel like giving us a three was really harsh I know our performance wasn't great but the music was very fitting yeah and maybe we should have pretended we were on the moon with our jumping or something like walking like that he just had such a cool carard we had so little time to think about it yeah I feel like it was harsh though look at our car that was really cool yeah maybe we were also ranked harshly because we were the first creators to go down maybe maybe we would have got a better score if we were towards the end I don't know yeah maybe but um yeah we did really bad on that and then you get obviously score for your speed in finishing the race yeah which we smashed Everyone by like four four seconds or something or seven or eight yeah like seven or eight seconds Quicks first to second and the second fastest and I think Becky and pieace got a dnf finish either they hit a minute or they stopped completely yeah cuz they went over one of the jumps and then front end broke so the wheel wasn't really like or the front was touching the floor dragging across the floor so they just I felt bad for them they just ped all across but at least they got down in one piece that's the they were just in a pint glass yeah it was really cool and they had a they had a cool performance Becky poured pint on um pie which was funny um con and Jack had a cool performance they just had some Swagger about it like yeah it was cool oh yeah we got picked on the performance but they did struggle getting into the vehicle did they yeah CU it's really hard and narrow to get in um they got they everyone got all the way to the end by the way Colin Jack fell over at the end there thing just went on its side they they chose thinner Wheels I didn't think they were going to make it that far yeah they also had a really high center of gravity cuz their car was thin and quite tall yeah like if you looked at their car it looked like it wanted to fall over it was a bit like chitty chitty bang bang but like elongated yeah so they did really well to and they were drifting it as well it was drifting so they did really well to get to the bottom um but yeah we were like seven seconds quicker than seven or eight seconds quicker than the second fastest which was it chip and freezy or was it Con I think it might have been no chip and frezy was Heavy wasn't it to be fair so that would move um and then there was People's Choice which we said we won 49% and was those were those those three so I think the reason so we ended up coming third we came third out of the four I just think it wasn't like cuz we won two out of three categories you'd think we'd win but I think they gave they were sort of like weighted yeah so because we were so low on the performance us being ahead on the other two bits didn't pull us up enough I think it's really harsh I think it doesn't matter at all by the way I don't I don't care but I do think it's harsh that performance is weighted so heavily in comparison to like speed has got to be the most important thing yeah like it's a race I know that's that's the way we were looking at it that's because it's a race come on we were focus on the race as aspect obviously soap boxes isn't Formula 1 is supposed to be like a bit of fun cretive stuff which you do get um but yeah hard winning two out of three categories and winning the race comfortably well it was more like at in the moment when they were revealing who won out of us four I was thinking in my head oh we've definitely won yeah after winning we got like 50% of the votes for People's Choice so it was a landslide Victory they said and a landslide Victory on the speed so I was thinking we have smashed those two things so surely we've gained loads of points for that yeah and we came third I was like I'm actually quite shocked by that I in my head I was thinking oh my God we've won yeah but um no it was so means anything like there's I don't there's nothing for it yeah I was just surprised but genuinely so it was so good yeah it was it was definitely definitely one of the best things I've ever done I was so glad that we did it I can't wait for the proper video to come out and have it all like a documentary s of documented archive just being like Oh I can look back at that video that was a banger yeah oh it was it was really good um then we stuck around and watched some public racing um and yeah there was it was it was nice there was a nice like area where you could get food and stuff and the worms showed up oh yeah lots of the patreon supporters a couple of N and non patreon people showed up lots of podcast people I'm guessing everyone there was podcast listeners because I didn't really put it on any platform no I think it it was all podcast we spoken about on the on on the podcast and in the patreon group chat quite a lot yeah and that was pretty much it so thank you well regardless if it's yeah thank you guys for coming along cuz it was so nice speaking to everyone great really great to have your support um yeah and yeah you guys were there for most of the day just like stood by our um what do you call it Soap Box stood by our Soap Box we were coming over when we could to say hi and stuff yeah everyone got photos we oh my goodness quite a lot of people wanted us to draw tattoos for them oh dear and we are not artistic no we're close yeah I'm a letter away but I not draw sa in my life and I was like the only thing I could think of was the rocket emoji yeah that was pretty good to be fair I was trying to draw them but getting the three little things at the bottom and the fire I was like I was like show this to your artist and they'll get what I'm trying to draw yeah they'll understand I mean I just ended up drawing flowers CU it's the easiest thing to draw it's got nothing to do with me a lot of art what just happened you just got bored of your own conversation I just yawned I was hoping you take it off me really quickly cuz I yawned no someone asked for a cameo once where they were like can you draw something for us to do a tattoo and I did a a ringed planet oh nice and oh my goodness trying to get cuz obviously if you put the circle there first the ring that goes in front like cuts through lines and it looks crap so you've kind of got to start with the ring but obviously just as the ring curves back around you have to stop and then you have to imagine where the sphere is going to be and oh my goodness I burnt through about half this notebook trying to get one that just looks semi-reasonable so whoever invented Saturn fair enough yeah exactly that must have been difficult and Uranus yep that's also ringed yeah um many too many rings yeah I've got a ring do you oh yeah and that weekend batch proposed to me so I said yes no I'm talking about my ass what anyway um it was it was a different kind of proposition to the one you were thinking of yours is way cuter than mine and I said no oh hell no I just got that that's disgusting cuz I was like on Saturday night we were just chilling we were like go we're exhausted yeah and I was like do you want to just stay around and Bach was like yeah so we played fornite and watch scary movies yeah he took me to get sushi again yeah we went to sticks and Sushi again but I was like I kind of want to make more videos but we were just so tired yeah I it was too late you just what you made me watch horror stuff we we watched a bunch of scary videos on YouTube like real ghost sightings and short horror movies and I was like I've wanted to do videos like that with you ages I was like then was the perfect time but our energy was just shock yeah we'll do it we'll definitely do it another time though CU people just love that love that horror game yeah is entertaining to watch other people get scared people don't want to watch you have fun they want to watch you cringe and be scared people enjoyed us having fun of Minecraft true but you were scared of I died like five six times I'm not very good clearly everyone's making fun of me did I die once I didn't I don't think no but your spirit died at one point hell no my spirit my spirit was always my spirit were through the roof um when I was getting attacked by Leona Lewis and I was hiding in the house turns out Leona Lewis can't go in water so I should have just gone in water I saw that comment yeah thanks for that thanks for the comment I'm actually going to use that logic and I I already want to film episode three right now do you yeah it was so fun we'll do it this week actually it's so fun like I enjoy playing it we're just loading up M fil although he needs a he needs a setup can we can we tell this boy to put some money towards a proper setup he plays on his PlayStation so we have to play Bedrock Edition so I can't use my nice shaders that make the waters and everything look clean and all the like graphics and stuff you know the like it's T's water we're keeping it the graphics upgrades are insane look just just a bit enjoy a humble bit of like Minecraft where it's nostalgic not everything has to be polished yeah okay fine um but no it was it was really good fun and it is it is I do love that we can just do that kind of stuff and just play a game and it would be fun yeah um we can just like high five when we want yeah anyway um back to let's go back in time to um the end of the race he wet himself no he didn't he didn't no he didn't but um I just want to make sure that we covered everything no because we didn't speak about um the stunt the stunts oh yeah you should tell them about the stunt they they just flung on you they didn't tell you until yeah they didn't tell me about this before and they made me sign my rights away yeah and it it was they had already Ked off the live stream so you just had to do it yeah um we basically batch got nice one he got pulled aside and they were like oh is the driver we're testing your reflexes yeah and what did they do they so she dropped a ruler and you just had to grab the ruler um as soon as she dropped it and just see how many centimeters you let drop to judge your reaction time I didn't do I think I came second actually nice but on the practice I failed uh so I was like oh that was nice and peaceful and fun I wonder what mine's going to be and they get me and they they I put this heart monitor on and I was like what they put this heart monitor on me put me in the middle of this cage and this dude called like Douglas or something comes up in this massive dirt bike and just goes like I'll lie down in the middle and I was like I know exactly where this is going got R to me and Jack just start planking and he's sort of in this giant he giant of a man I swear he's like 6'4 in this massive dirt bike and he's sort of there like on one wheel bouncing the like wheel like an inch from my head and I'm like if he just if anything misjudges he crushes my skull yeah like we we we lose one of the Bright Young talents of this generation and you as well wait what do you mean well they'd get Jack and you oh yeah yeah good old Jack and then then he was doing like wheelies around your head like just driving past full speed past his head yeah it was giving me the E actually see lie down there insane and I was just like well I'm playing it cool cuz that's like the name of the game it'd be cringe if I got up and I mean they they even said that if you get up you're at risk of just getting your head whacked cuz he's like an inch within your head so if you move it until you die yeah um and for like a minute he just did this and bounced around and yeah you were down there for a hot minute yeah we were there for ages just getting driven around I thought oh this is just getting this is just cruel now yeah I mean the poor boy is just lying there with a boner by the way uh because he gets that happens when he gets scared just why you think I keep getting you for horror games oh no i h on a Bo so he's just doing circling circling circling around Arthur on the floor it just I just felt a bit sorry for him in the end yeah uh so that was terrifying but good F night you know I'm up for anything I did realized the other day I'm just one of his friends who's just up for thing yeah you are actually someone could be like hey we're going to sit inside and watch movies tonight I be like fine or they can be like come on man we're robbing a bank I'm like cool they'll be like come on going glamping for the weekend do you is that real though if I said or okay let's go and watch the Euros tonight fine let's do it England England this is the last night of the group stage and all of a sudden the mood is really dead because we're just through now we've not played well either it's been pathetic there I said it and Harry Kane when you finally come on this podcast I've got some strong words to have with you mine mine Reserve is Gareth Southgate and not bringing BR and not playing kobby Mayu okay sorry Harry Kane actually way he's playing phenomenally to be not as if we're missing him but I'm mad at you Southgate yeah Italy um not playing too bad oh my goodness you're Italian did you watch the game last night and they scored the 90th plus eight to go through 98th minute it was the draw against Croatia oh that was heartbreaking poor the thing is they probably would have gone through anyway as one of the people third but um it's nice to confirm it you know yeah those moments of elation just so hard I think Italy just like a decent Striker anyway we won't bore you with football because a lot of people probably don't care about football yeah um but yeah I mean I'm getting into F1 now yes you are you watch drive to survive right yeah I've been watching drive to surv I need to get on that I really want to watch that um and hence why the Red Bull so box race I was really in I was really in my element Because You Loved does it make you love Red Bull as well the driver to survive does it follow a particular team it follows the mall and to be honest I haven't really got like a team I really um it's not like I really want to see this team win it's more people that you care about it's good to see Red Bull doing well but um I like Lando do you yeah you're Lando Norris enjoyer I'm a Lando enjoyer I like them all to be fair from what I've seen I like I get I like Char all oh cuz he kind he kind of looks like Charles mclair uh yeah I get uh Lando Norris a lot people always say like L nor I'm not sure about that boy and uh obviously like V stappen red the Red Bull goat what batch V stappen high five what does that even mean batch for steppen me batch for steppen batch for steppen me instead of Max for Sten batch for Sten it's one of the only times that batch really goes into anything batch for Sten what do people nickname you at school get tuna boy cuz I've brought in tuna fish boy uh right I was going duckling I was going for more names like name related like okay because I was oh name related I was I was called nothing I was just called Arthur I don't know why I said it like that I was called Nothing me yeah had no friends at school no I didn't really people would say ice as a joke ice yeah I just I didn't like not having a cool nickname name my sister one of my sisters calls me Izzy that's really cringe and feminine yo she watches these which is fine yo she watches these apologize down the lens right now I apologize nothing cuz it is it was true it was my truly held opinion and you should never apologize for being yourself sometimes she calls me Elizabeth as well what and I don't really know where she got that from she started that was a good what what yeah she watches it where she works as she was working she'll have it on Gizzy by the way I didn't get cancelled for what Sunday came out where I waterboarded Chris I haven't watched that and I was seriously worried I was genuinely like I thought you know just some people on the internet can be real yeah cuz they might be like oh you're making fun of water boarding people actually die from water boarding that's not what I exactly what I meant oh because okay you can't waterboard Chris because he doesn't like water and some people have been drowned before no okay of course because because you shouldn't do water boarding because it's like saying this is something you should it's really on impressionable fans and they'll be like okay I'm going to water board my mom tonight right maybe maybe that was like oh you shouldn't do that on to an impression I'm going to cancel you right now in that case um but no I I I just thought people would be like oh that was so mean of him they're not friends like just you know when you don't really know I mean obviously anyone who's seen Chris and videos knows how much abuse he puts me through I mean that guy abuse shs down on my neck like there's no tomorrow he's just I I'll just be chilling mid shootting he'll just go on my traps I mean granted they're juicy like they're nice muscular defined um have you ever thought you might just be a vampire I don't know hiding in plain sight you know you've got two Pierce marks right there you getting sucked by you've got really garlicky breath so I don't think I could be a a vampire cuz otherwise let's not start rumors like that otherwise I'd run there's not start rumors like that yeah my breath smells like daisies rainbows fairy tales I'm always chewing gum you are always chewing gum you're a real gum chewer yeah it Bo it boosts your confidence it's like putting a pair of sunglasses on I'm glad you don't do it on the podcast that would be the most annoying thing to listen to I have done it before but I just tuck it into my teeth like snz you don't mean that it's gum you don't mean that it's gum it's just weird you don't mean that it's gum gum started freaking out you know we were speaking about eggs the other day when you you're Midway through eating heads and you're like wait up yeah that's a period something ain't right that's a menstrual cycle raor and you're like yeah well that weirdly makes me like it more it's more than I knew you were a feminist me too come on yeah um we do like to bring awareness to the fact that women exist and have Cycles cuz I I I mentioned menstrual cycles all the time and I in one of my YouTube videos I was like I've got to stop saying menstrual cycles drop a comment if you think I should stop saying menual cycle everyone's like no and someone's like no it actually feels kind of feminist in a weird way cuz you're bringing light to the fact of cuz not everyone knows that women have I think everyone knows women have periods I found out 3 days ago watching your video you thought they had penis what I just thought they merely existed they merely exist in a in a realm Between Heaven and Hell where somewhere I love doesn't exist what the hell is this guy talking about women only exist in heaven women are heaven on Earth in my opinion how does that song Go heaven heaven for what it's worth women are heaven on Earth women are heaven on Earth brother in Christ you don't know what you're talking about right now I feel like we're getting on to Serious brain rot have you got anything else this is a rare batch prepared actually been praying preparing a lot um all of the episodes lately we've actually yeah hence why the quality's increased um no you just you do stuff in a different way I like like reading and talking reading well next episode's prepared by by Arthur and we'll be filming this directly after this one yeah we're doing complet transparency cuz batch is way on holiday and I'm going to be honest because I'm not I've not brought a spare pair of clothes anyway yeah me neither I don't want to hear no comments like why is he wearing that shirt again well they should be comenting CU alth this on an episode before quite frankly Arthur is either can I just say by the way I predicted what you were going to be wearing on the Red Bull meal I said Arthur will turn up in Black corduroy shorts um and a cream beige top shirt either worn as an overshirt with a white t-shirt underneath or just a shirt that's exactly what you were that's true I mean I have two other pairs of shorts I had a black like pair that were like had textured but the waistband thing snapped hard to find a good pair of shorts and then I had a nice like cream beige pair yeah um but they were just like I don't know linen and just ended up being a bit too and take it from a guy a sleepover with him he doesn't take them off he showers in them he goes me to take them off he was like take them off take them off take them off and I was like leave me alone yeah I was like please wash please wash you were just misreading me I wasn't saying take them off I was like please wash please wash anyway I I got the um I went into the patreon chat o uh little plug if you want to join the patreon go ahead there's a chat you get early access to episodes they get uploaded all the time and Bullies me in it yeah I do speak in there a fair amount um and I said to them we're filming two pods today can you guys reply to this message with any questions you have about the Red Bull Soapbox race we're going to be doing a whole episode on it uh because I thought there might be you know they might want to know more information on how it was built or how we were feeling and stuff and we could just give us some insight to that we've just explained the day how cool it was blah blah blah but they want to know the BTS let's see how insightful their questions can be okay did you hurt your nose that's [ __ ] rude no I didn't that obviously pointed at you no I didn't to be fair I did we had said in an episode prior that there was no foam and we are going to smash our faces in they put foam in we had good helmets on but we didn't actually crash so yeah we didn't crash so although his coxic bone is in pain yeah my coxics I'm absolutely fine because I'm not weak that's your tailbone um may ask for us highly evolved Apes that was from Brooke by the way I'll say names shout outs May says how SL why did you decide to build a rocket why I guess cuz it's very on brand for us have a look at our mugs yep yeah I mean we're just we're were're a Spacey themed podcast for no apparent reason we genely I'm sure we said in the earlier episodes we had no plans to be themed and bats just randomly one day went let's just make it space themed I just think it's cool yeah me I just think we both think it's cool we do we just need a cool set I think most of the things we do is because we think oh that's cool like the Soap Box we thought oh it'd be cool if we did a a ship or a ufi yeah just cuz it just cuz it's funny someone actually messaged in for the next one I've got like the submissions from the normal submissions page which everyone can enter just go to our any of our socials at Bach and arur and in the link there's like a a link tree and one of them is the submissions form and they were like what is your target audience because I can't really figure it out and I'm studying media at the moment target audience is such a big thing and I was like we don't have one we just come on talk about whatever we find interesting yeah and just hope that some people agree yeah and the people who do listen are actually very um diverse yeah and intelligent and cool and good looking and all this yeah um so yeah no um yeah and it's weird because we're not sitting there going oh let's talk about this to appeal to this audience which I think is I mean somehow it works so thank you guys for tuning into thanks cuz I think if you analyzed it in like a media class and it was like oh one minute you're doing brain rot meme references and the next you're talking about s men and then the next we're talking about Greek philosophy and the next one like Roman Parables and then religion they'd be like well someone's going to listen to the one episode like it and then not like the rest yeah but for some reason people just like listening to it all really I think we just decided that we're just going to do what we want like yeah whatever we enjoy yeah like whatever we enjoy and whatever we F feel like talking about we're just going to do it because if you want to enjoy something you've like if you want this if we want this podcast to continue we've got to enjoy it and if we're looking at it tactically like Oh Let's do an episode on this so we can boost our audience in this demographic it will start to feel like a like a real job well like you know I've heard from other people that do podcasts that their producers will be like today you're having this guest on and they're like well I've never watched the show they're on or Never follow them don't care about the story but I've got to do it's nice that we kind of have a just able to just go oh whatever and I do think the stuff we talk about is interesting broadly like if you're someone who like whenever we meet or speak to anyone who watches the podcast they're always like oh I love like these types of interesting discussions I feel like if you have a generally curious mind yeah like if if people who are listening to this and enjoy it are going to be similar to us in that respect and they you know even if they don't have a an interest in any of the particular like they might be like oh I love hearing about religion I'm a curious person but they don't care about Greek philosophy yeah or anything when we speak about the ship of thesis they're still like oh it's an interesting thought like it's an interesting thought so if you're one of those types of people like us then all that kind of stuff is interesting I guess thus our our demographic is people who just have similar interests to us yeah or like have a similar outlook on life or yeah that's the thing it's not even like it's just it's the broad value of curiosity I think who just like they like to laugh they like a bit of Comedy cuz we even get people who disagree with us and they're like oh I'm religious I completely disagree with this all but it was so interesting to listen to and so they're not listening because we're speaking about things that they find um they agree with or they enjoy you know but they're going like oh like I like the way these topics are approached or the way this is discussed and yeah so yeah hopefully we'll try and keep that up um hey no way we're going to brain Rock 24/7 after here or no anyway um Connie asked what was your top speed we don't actually know but what did you think it was 30 well when we passed we passed the speed gate at what will be one of the fastest points and that was 30 okay mil K yeah km pH um Leia says do you think you were going to make it to the Finish Line did you think you were going to make it to the Finish Line I genuinely um did not think we were going to make it past the chicane to be honest yeah cuz I didn't realize the course was as wide as it was however the as narrow as it was you mean actually yeah yes and no the thing is it's like driving a car when you're in a car it looks like you're you're bigger than the road but actually you can fit in much smaller of a gap than you expect yourself to be able to and so when you're actually in the soap box when we were doing the chicane in my head I thought we're going to catch one of the hay bals and go flying but actually although it was actually pretty close watching it back it felt like I had enough room to get round and stuff well two hay bals we did fully slic through well yeah if the wings were like flat fronted we would have we could have just spun out flown but because the wings were just like yeah we the first one and then the second one we through that yeah um but in no I didn't think we were going to make it down in one piece to be honest I thought either we'd get to the end and there' be damage or we'd fall over at the end or we just wouldn't make it to the end cuz it's not a like it more often than not you don't make it to the end yeah so I thought statistically I didn't I didn't think we were going to make it to the end so I was surprised were you or not it's so funny because at the start you're like I really don't know but be when you're going down it's so fast and you've got to think a lot like yeah I was just constantly thinking like just monitoring whether we were going too fast or not to be like bring the speed down ever so slightly and it's everything's happening so fast you don't have time to think oh are we going to make it like any hypotheticals it's just uh pull the break break on break off break off oh my goodness are we going to make this corner are we going to too fast at how are we doing like all this kind of stuff's rushing through your head I didn't even think about it I was no so yeah I had no thoughts in my head either I think we were just on reflex at that point yeah because every yeah like Arthur said everything's coming at you so quick like before the chane I thought I had enough time to put my hand up and wave and I was like [ __ ] no I don't yeah so that's when I came back onto the wheel and did that so we really don't have much time in that thing um then Phoenix asks what was the hardest and easiest part of the creative process oh hard po was coming up with an idea for what we wanted to do as the car because we took ages like they were asking us for the design for so long and we were like we really don't know it is hard when you can do literally anything it's like the classic situation where you've got too much Choice yeah so you can't make a decision and neither necessarily creative creative types yeah so we and also it's it's difficult as well when there's two people because obviously if one person wants to do something we we agreed yeah we we didn't have any friction on what we wanted to do we because we both didn't really have an idea but you've got to make sure that what one person comes up with the other person's happy to do um but I think from the go we just suggested either a space shuttle or UFO we were both happy with those two ideas and then we had a look at some pictures and we thought okay let's go for a space sh that was it yeah so I think that um it was hard in the beginning but to to be honest the decision process was pretty easy for us in the end I do think the hardest part although that was hard I think what was harder for us was probably um building the chassis don't you think it was harder than the woodwork yeah that's probably true cuz we didn't have any engineer assistance with the underly car yeah the actual chassis itself we just had bits like we didn't have instructions for half of it we were in in a big Warehouse with just a bunch of nuts bolts rods	in a taxi we went to dinner we had a create a dinner um what did you eat pizza yeah I had a really really hot hot pizza but the thing I was enjoying the most was the football we had a massive screen in front of us oh yeah cuz France were playing Netherlands NE scen I felt kind of harsh cuz the the table was positioned in a way that only half of us could see the football and the other half were just watching us watching football yeah but no he they were watching a react video basically they got to see us live reacting In the Flesh um but the meal was really good the food was really good uh Jake was struggling Jake the guy works with um Arthur they both got the same Pizza he was struggling with the heat yeah he was [ __ ] [ __ ] struggling with the Pint as well got two pints steep was steaming no cuz he was so in denial Jake yeah Jake had a couple pints and he was gone we were like you are drunk he like I am not drunk and he was getting angry mad I'm not even drunk he's I haven't even done anything later he's doing karaoke so that's belting out karaoke with his phone to the to the mic with with voice note on my God it's so that was you singing those Tunes to someone yeah we yeah	8	6	4	in a taxi we went to dinner we had a create a dinner um what did you eat pizza yeah I had a really really hot hot pizza but the thing I was enjoying the most was the football we had a massive screen in front of us oh yeah cuz France were playing Netherlands NE scen I felt kind of harsh cuz the the table was positioned in a way that only half of us could see the football and the other half were just watching us watching football yeah but no he they were watching a react video basically they got to see us live reacting In the Flesh um but the meal was really good the food was really good uh Jake was struggling Jake the guy works with um Arthur they both got the same Pizza he was struggling with the heat yeah he was struggling with the Pint as well got two pints steep was steaming no cuz he was so in denial Jake yeah Jake had a couple pints and he was gone we were like you are drunk he like I am not drunk and he was getting angry mad I'm not even drunk he's I haven't even done anything later he's doing karaoke so that's belting out karaoke with his phone to the to the mic with 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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0g_xJvKEb8	4,108	-0g_xJvKEb8	2024-06-27 00:00:00	[Music] what's up everybody welcome back to episode 14 of the batch and Arthur podcast yay go thanks for joining everyone we have something to reveal yes we do I know you guys don't like it when Arthur has his mug on the couch because he tends to drop things don't you never dropped anything actually okay you dropped that th done remember that well you might have noticed I also have my mug on the sofa mhm wondering why who wants to know why should we tell them something to do with one like equals one Lara maybe something to do with that exactly you guys ready see what you reveal go way for audio listeners we have white mugs with our little cartoon characters on them that's right little will I didn't want to Cheers you and I've got my little handsome space guy come on yeah Lara surprised us with these this is a gift um mine shatterproof as well apparently oh it's not sh yeah he's got a plastic mug because we know what he's like I've sippy C the audio listeners actually little rubber cppy cup with two handles well actually when Arthur drinks from a mug show them how you do it I'll I'll commentate for this he uses two hands so he grabs on the like handle and then he grabs the other hand I drink everything with two hands especially tea and Pints yeah I don't really know what is there a reason for that or not safety I guess twice as balanced is that really if one arm stops working the other one's there as a fail safe well there you go that's why he does it guys so it makes sense all after all yeah um speaking of batch and Arthur this podcast design right here yeah this has been plasted on something recently what our rocket ship oh yeah guys we just got back from the Red Bull Soap Box race and we're alive 2024 we genuinely were not sure we were going to survive no I was but we did really scared we we turned up we got to see other people's cards um and there was basically two things going on so there's like a public race and then the Creator race was like a separate thing which is streamed on YouTube If you go on Red Bull's um YouTube channel and you go on under the live tab you can actually watch the full thing yeah we were like a half time race yeah it was Bas half time show yeah there was a few people who weren't happy about the Creator's uh racing cuz they thought we were mixed in with the public but it's like a whole separate thing like we can't win any awards over the public or anything like that yeah um but but we won the hearts of the public come on yeah we did win the hearts of the public there was a a couple of things that you were like rated on as creators and one of them was People's Choice and we got a landslide victory of 44% yeah it actually ended up on 49% 50% out of four teams we got 49 everyone rounds 49 thank you to everyone who voted for us we one of four teams but we're up against chip and freezy who have a big loving audience Becky and pieace who audience and then con from the siden huge loving audience and the guy who's our cameraman on the train video the siden that's right Jack was there as well went to with con they had cool out but uh we we got to Ali p uh that's my first time there you've been there before actually I think we should start the day before okay let's let's reel that [ __ ] back because we had another sleepover kind of yeah we did have another let's just say oh no we didn't really a hotel yeah we did not have a sleepover but what did we do where did we first meet we we met at the we met at the hotel at the hotel dropped our bags off Adam was there he's the Red Bull guy that was been looking after us and he took all the creators out to dinner yeah we to find the tell first yeah chopped a pint um both hands come on yeah then we got in a taxi we went to dinner we had a create a dinner um what did you eat pizza yeah I had a really really hot hot pizza but the thing I was enjoying the most was the football we had a massive screen in front of us oh yeah cuz France were playing Netherlands NE scen I felt kind of harsh cuz the the table was positioned in a way that only half of us could see the football and the other half were just watching us watching football yeah but no he they were watching a react video basically they got to see us live reacting In the Flesh um but the meal was really good the food was really good uh Jake was struggling Jake the guy works with um Arthur they both got the same Pizza he was struggling with the heat yeah he was [ __ ] [ __ ] struggling with the Pint as well got two pints steep was steaming no cuz he was so in denial Jake yeah Jake had a couple pints and he was gone we were like you are drunk he like I am not drunk and he was getting angry mad I'm not even drunk he's I haven't even done anything later he's doing karaoke so that's belting out karaoke with his phone to the to the mic with with voice note on my God it's so that was you singing those Tunes to someone yeah we yeah CU you've been to a place before should we say the name of the place or not I actually I don't remember it anyway okay we went to this place anyway Arthur's been there before it's um like a karaoke bar with uh like an arcade and bowling and there's a dance floor and like a bar and stuff like that yeah very good fun we all went there did some karaoke went there for Arthur Hill's birthday that's how I found out about it what a place it is a cool place actually um yeah did a bit of karaoke we were in there for a couple hours doing karaoke in the end yeah um belting at tunes by the way batch can sing No Arthur can sing yeah but I think people would assume that from but that goes without saying no but but Frank Sinatra came on and oh my goodness batch was just cooking that thing anyone can sing Frank arra welcome back Frank Sinatra he died and this is him reborn wasn't wasn't he heavily involved with the mafia Frank Sinatra so are you you're a quter Italian that's true but I can't admit that no not legally anyway oops they're going to come and get me try and come and get me watch me beat beat you all up actually I shouldn't say what if they do don't come and get me please I was just kidding I've got nothing to do with him he lives on 32 Italian back street oh my god that actually is my house number H what don't say that it's not that's my apartment number as well no we you're not finding out where we live um I'm going to move in with Arthur anyway we moved in together on Minecraft yeah sort of anyway back to karaoke we had fun at karaoke then we went home we didn't get back till 3:00 a.m. silly move because we had to be up early yeah we had it well not that early we had 10: a.m. taxi picks up yeah but we met at breakfast at 9:30 it was the most romantic breakfast of my life yeah um and then stayed at the Hilton Red Bull of class they put us in there they also like what a lovely experience not only did they take us to dinner they they paid for karaoke and everything like that they covered everything shout out to Red Ball I'm going to crack One open right now and they're actually delicious all these colored red balls my actual favorite is the summer edition you guys should actually try this this is not sponsored but I'm just saying this is not even the first thing I I did I went to salburg in Austria and did some Red Bull salburg video shooting with Chris MD um we did like penal sh outs in games with mads bistrup for their YouTube channel and then did a video in it was the the final one of christed uh every time you beat a Defender the defender gets upgraded that's right yeah and we start off with like Harry R Shaw as the worst Defender when all the way up to Champions League mads bistr who fantastic player I mean yeah you realize how like when you watch t uh football on TV you think oh I could do that yeah but then if you see a actual Pro in real life yeah like that makes sense why you went pro now actually we need to do more charity so that was fun that was fun there are a lot going on it's just timings cuz there's so many things going on during summer and that's usually when charity matches go down yeah but you got to work in the schedules either you're away or I'm away or there's a brand trip or something has to be submitted in time was crazy yeah but um no I'm sure we're going to do a lot more stuff with Red Bull as well so that's exciting um but anyway we then got the taxi to Alex Alexandra Palace Ali pal come on and um I've only just realized that's why it's Ali P really yeah I just thought that Ali P was the hill and Alexandre Palace was no way Ali now I've just heard it okay that's Ali P right anyway U you almost did a off the TV intro that right right so then we uh we got into the race so no we got into the Zone where the race was going on yeah and we got to have a little scout out all the public submitted soap boxes some really cool stuff in there yeah although there was one weird one because we rock up and there are like four girls gathered around water is essentially a double bed one girl just tucked up and you back like oh this is cool and she was like yeah it's really cozy get in we were like no I I ain't doing all that I'm sure though that you know that wasn't actually her like lying in it yeah I know you could tell something was weird under the covers but I was not getting involved what what what the hell um oh you can't see my soundboard I've got to pull this back so I can soundboard here yeah he hasn't got a soundboard yet thank goodness although I should no they all see the comments by the way Lara and Arthur see the comments and Lara even said into the group chat she was like I think we need to get bat of soundboard because of all the comments she sent me a message being like listen we've got one purchase a year we can authorize either we get cool mugs or batch gets a soundboard and I was like mugs mugs oh hell no I just think it's so much funnier when you do it yourself and go to I do think so but this is going to get worn down and eventually there's going to be a Hole uh oh audio listeners don't know what I'm doing I I just I pretend there's a soundboard and I just push the sof and make my I do it as well I do it in real life I'll be speaking to people when I'm BR but it doesn't make his much sense in real life just in a conversation he's just air poking stuff as he goes brh you know what's so funny as well I showed batch this someone one of you guys one of our listeners because cuz I you do it quite a lot but I do it all the time at you do the what yeah what that thing someone did a Tik Tok called whatting people in public so she goes into this petrol station goes to pay she goes like how much is that and he goes like Oh 1350 and she just goes what loud so loud just yells it in this man's face and everyone was like bad bad you guys have to recreate this it was so funny yeah and then Arthur was like we've got to do this we've got I don't know if I have the like what is it um social confidence to do that I'd be able to do it not yell it I thought it was a bit rude though the loud yelling not in a bad I'm not criticizing you I just able to do that like that myself I'd be like what I think sorry you got no no soup of the day what what when you have a camera on you though that you get a new found confidence in public like I found no no no in general I don't know if you agree with this in like a sidan video I Feel Like rules don't apply like social rules then don't apply cuz you've got a camer on you and you can do what you want whatever you want yeah I've only recently started being able to finally find it within myself to Vlog like when we were at wagas I was like this is actually fine yeah whereas before IID look at people vlogging in public and I go I admire you a lot cuz I can never do that it helps having people around you yeah although I feel like we do it with our phones it's a bit easier that's true whereas if people with their cameras out like facing their way I'm like oh my goodness I'd be so embarrassed yeah I think I would be as well especially if you got like a big rig on the end of that thing people are just admiring you your rig yeah both of them come on anyway um what speaking of the soap boxes that we saw um there was this one there was like these four guys like lying down chilling and they had this like Dome oh yeah which was kind of like a I guess like a spa you know the space shuttles that come down to earth it kind of looked a bit like that didn't yeah um like a landing module yeah like a landing module and they what did what did they make it off fiberglass or something yeah oh my God you could smell it from where we were still and they were like stick your head in that so we stuck it you stuck your head in first took a whiff and I did it afterwards oh my God dizzying genuinely dizzying I'm high I'm still high from that moment if anyone's ever been in like a a surfboard shop where they like make the surfboards yeah it smells like that it just smell exactly like that and they bizarre I just burped on I thought that was what that was that was disgusting hopefully that didn't get picked up apologize sorry guys sorry if you heard that cut that out anyway um it's not getting cut uh it they had to spend the whole run down in that thing so I think those guys are a little bit waved yeah I'm glad we I'm glad we were just a team of two and had two seats because I kind of felt bad some people that pushed the Soap Box thing down yeah like running after it for like 50 meters and it was a hot day that's true like um most people was like a team of four and two would push two would be in it I think that's standard isn't it to have two people in the so box and then a team that will push and Chase it down probably chase down chip and freezies yeah funny it was funny as well the way he was running because I guess it was like a it was like Looney Tunes the way he had his arms up like that chasing them down to be fair there are people I felt more bad for he talking about some of the injuries of the day oh my God and this is the thing like good gosh man we were already nervous then we were then we got to S see our um vehicle which they had made some mods to by the way so put me at ease a little bit they put foam in the place where my head would smash oh yeah so I felt about that yeah um they didn't they were going to cut out the wheel arches so we could turn more but they didn't I'm glad they I actually think that worked in our favor in it did um and they were actually slagging it off when it went up on towards stage they were speaking about it on Mike and they were like they can't turn properly they can't see over it and I was thinking oh no they're slagging off our thing they were talking about our buckets on the back and stuff I don't know if they were slagging off the buckets or just speaking about I just heard bucket like they're talking about ours oh my god um but it actually worked in favor and then there was screens up showing the first runs and it took a while it like an hour or two after we got there till the first run um but did you see the Sheep one no I didn't see any of the big ones but that's a bad one there was a sheep we I was watching a sheep go down um it was just before you did your stunt I think and it got all the way to the end and then at full speed flipped over onto their necks and I think it was one of them that broke their collarbone and it looked awful and after seeing that me and pieace was stood together we were like I we genuinely don't want to go down after seeing that he was [ __ ] it I was [ __ ] it um and then not only that I think other people must have like been bruised or whatever but the other big one that we heard about is we when we got to the start line we were there waiting for like 10 minutes and it was cuz the person who went down before us got knocked out so that's crazy yeah which I didn't see I don't think we'll ever see any footage of that but I don't know what vehicle it was or anything I just heard that they got knocked out that's why we were up there for ages yeah I mean it was going down insanely fast yeah it look I mean it looks quick on camera but it doesn't look nearly as quick as it feels yeah when you're in that thing oh my goodness and you can barely see in front of you you're bouncing all over the place you're hitting these jumps there are bits where there's foam that like splashes you in the face you have a few seconds of blindness yeah it's mental it it to best describe it definitely feels faster than sitting in a car at 60 MPH I'd say faster than it feels sitting in a car going 100 yeah cuz you're so exposed to we've never gone 100 I've been on the auto bar in Germany okay fair um but yeah you're exposed so it just feels so quick but we were quick insanely Qui insanely quick I think everyone we were the first of the creators to go up everyone thought we were going to just crash yeah or just be crap and slow there was so many comments so many DMs I got afterward was like [ __ ] fair enough before we even went down though before we get cuz we we will react we'll show you us going down yeah but I think we should tell them actually maybe should we hit play and then we'll pause at certain bits to be like explainer yeah I'll tell you what it plays it goes all the way through and then they do it in slow-mo afterwards we can on the slow-mo we'll do some explanation okay here we go batch and Arthur we had the podcast sticker oh it was such a good sticker on the side which was really cool and they zoomed in out loads for the YouTube video which is great yeah was all over the stream which was ideal although you cannot see podcast there until someone shads over it yeah someone's just shattering we were stood up there for ages genuinely yeah because someone had just been knocked out looking down this hill that was just so steep it's not funny but look at that thing that's so impressive it's so well built I can't believe it and I'm I'm gutted because I actually wanted to say to the we had a little bit of help from the Red Bull Engineers yeah I wanted to say thank you to them more just be like what did you see that that was really good yeah if anyone knows anything by any chance please pass on our thanks because yeah they they helped us hopefully they watched it and saw a great deal uh but we did do a lot I mean we did spend two full days building this thing and printing it up and stuff so yeah which you'll obviously see in the Vlog I'll talk about I'll talk about something later cuz there's um this was posted to Tik Tok and there's some funny comments on there really basically yeah basically calling us desk dwellers what so this is our performance so this performance we didn't know we no was supposed to do we we were told to choose a piece of music so we chose something like Space Odyssey style but we had no idea that meant we had to perform yeah and like like she's saying like there are points for performance and we knew about 10 minutes beforehand that this 30 second period of Music we'd have to Performance so we were like let's just do something simple gum shields in the mouth bow and get in and they were harsh they gave us a three but that also also counts to the way the vehicle looks so I think three is Harsh yeah but here we go performance score 22 poor but this is when we started racking up speed the steering was really weird as well cuz it changed as we got quicker and we were just bouncing as we went down like we'd hit a ramp and oh my goodness like almost front flipped that around we Whi around the corner and our our genuine one of our wings like clipped a ha Bell and just sliced through it that one sliced through the hay Bell I was thinking as we came down I swear I would have hit that side had I not hit that side and then nailed the braking and you said you could smell burnt rubber when you were breaking on that thing cuz I was like tickling the brakes like before a jump every now and then I do one all as we approached the chicane I pulled it yeah um but they said as we were going down in the commentary like yeah oh this feels fast usually you're hitting like low 20s here and it comes up on the side and we're hitting 30 km an hour yeah we were going and we were oh my goodness I'm glad you didn't break touch the break though we didn't need it yeah yeah I mean you did a did a little bit but I mean the others obviously touched it a lot more yeah I basically kept us at a speed where I was like this is very close to the line of like where we can make this corner at the speed because at the end of the day as a race and I was like we don't want to get up at the end and just be like oh like a couple of the soite boxes made it halfway down and just like stopped completely yeah and they were like having to like like I don't know like Shake It Forward it's so awkward like we did speak and we did say we'd actually rather crash going pretty quick than come to a grinding hle because it's just not good material yeah like we did it for Content wants to see that it's for a video we know representing creators at half time yeah so many people watching we've got a space shuttle that is designed at a velocity of 17,000 500 mph yeah so we were like you know hitting to be honest when they gave us those uh cuz we asked for special helmets that covered the face yeah when they gave me that I felt invincible and I thought oh [ __ ] it and we had gum Shields that we like ped poured into boiling water molded them before and molded them so we we felt pretty safe yeah I mean but still at 30 we weren but I don't have miles hour or kilm an hour I think it was mph I actually do really yeah but whatever it is at 30 like genuinely like just whacking your head against something solid is well I mean someone did get knocked out and broke it was terrifying yeah they they then do a slow-mo okay let's watch the slow-mo and we can break down exactly because I was thinking there was a point in the chicane when we really Whi round I was thinking why did that happen it was because the back right wheel wasn't on the ground when we were coming up to the chicane so when it touched the the ground it turned us into a corner so I was like [ __ ] and I had to spin it around one way and then back around the other way oh that's why we had that major wobble yeah and you can see it it's like it's cuz one of the wheels wasn't on the ground okay let's let's watch and like in the first one we'll try and go for the audio listeners kind of describe what we're seeing yeah so the first jump yeah we it was a heavy a heavy bit of Kit as well we definitely had one of the heavier ones it and it was like so we got through here the back that wheel wasn't on the ground so like had to correct it well the chicane of just having to go really quick left and then really quick right after yeah and then this pit we hit a bunch of stairs and bch basically grinds on the right hand of them it's cuz afterwards we had to be on the right hand side so I was thinking I can't turn directly after I'm going to have to turn on the ramp like the CL the the course is split in two with like steps on the left and straight on the right and we go down the steps but like half dangling off yeah you have a choice whether to do jumps or not obviously we were going to do the jumps cuz you get docked time um no they add time on if you go round cuz it's a bit unfair yeah but we you were just like let's head it yeah and after the first jump it it looks like we really jump around I don't know about you but in it it didn't feel that bad I I think I'm the exact opposite cuz I was going flying and my bum still Hur May was our positioning or cuz I was holding on to this when yeah I had nothing to hold on to I was just sat on a blue seat I re yeah I reckon that's what it was cuz it kept me like sort of planted you fix and you're in the center so with us like when when you go off the Jump the nose sort of goes down yeah it did and then the back col kicks up into the air and then slams down and because I'm at the back you really got you know I've got a lot further to fall and I just got whacked and my butt like when I sit on the sofa like no I can feel it bruised on I was actually un unscared I was absolutely fine yeah God it was um after that first jump though I got a lot more confidence in the run I was thinking oh that was fine I can we can do all the [ __ ] jumps yeah I just got full speed no I rate it I'm so glad you just sent it cuz and you I mean you didn't have a choice sending it yeah you just you na yeah exactly you could SL down but uh I they miked us did they mic you up CU they miked me up but I said nothing the whole run yeah why would you you couldn't because the thing is I was so focused I think it's because we went so quick because there's a Red Bull posted a video on their Tik Tok page where because they miked up chip and freezy and um it's off chip speaking to freezy and he's like on the brakes off the brakes okay we're going to go around this now and I think it's CU they were using the brakes and communicating about the brakes that they had stuff to say but because we were just you told me before you weren't going to touch the brake so I thought okay he's really not there's no point saying anything and you know whether it's a Brak or not so I was just thinking I'm just going to drive I was literally only thinking like I'm only going to slow us down if I feel like at this speed we either can't hit that jump properly or can't go around the corner and I was just tickling it and it was only at the end like I was like I've got to wait until we cross the finish line before I can break and I just Ram it and because it was a friction break it's like literally a metal bar that just pulls down onto both of the rear wheels it just starts smelling like burning rubber actually nailed that was so good though cuz we literally landed after that last jump we landed and I was like [ __ ] the Finish is right there and all I could hear was I just knew he pulled that thing so hard we came around the corner and didn't touch a single thing because he broke just in time yeah and the thing was untouched like the they said they it could get sent back to one of us so I send it to my house um I got I didn't tell you this yet I got a DM from someone saying I'm just about to watch your soap box get destroyed what no it's been graveyard we took it to a graveyard but we put it to one side no they told us we could have it uh yeah oh the guy might be lying I I pray he is cuz that's so harsh but I saw it in the DM request I was like [ __ ] surely not we should M message Adam but I think a big part of the reason we couldn't speak or do much else is because we weren't so full s we did that in 36 seconds chip and freezy were the second fastest in our group I think and they were 44 seconds yeah so we were we were literally seven or eight seconds I mean I don't exactly know what their milliseconds were but we were seven or eight seconds faster than them and I mean the difference like you watch them go down and they're sort of doing a decent speed but I thought them being go- karters you know they've got their Senor frogs they race every year yeah I was like they're going to bomb it too yeah but they kind of just played it relatively safe I mean good time time but like I do think we we absolutely Center and we had this guy come up to us at the end like should you say yeah say and this guy comes up to us and go don't like freak out now or anything um but we're checking because we genuinely think this was one of the fastest of all time yeah like fastest soap boxes ever he thought we hit the world record run right there and then and they cuz they had to check them by the millisecond yeah and we were a fraction of a second off being the fastest ever 1 18 of a second something something ridiculous like that and uh so I think we were either the second or the third fastest of all time yeah there were rumors at the end of the day and I don't know whether it was Chip just winding us up being like the last car of the day was slightly faster yeah they they yeah they said something like the last car of the day actually broke the world record so if that is true we're the third fastest of all time if not we are the second fastest of all time to go down that track and we rather the second of the first fastest of this year's event which is just just the coolest thing ever like we to be fair have also like we couldn't have picked a design that was Better Built For Speed I mean it's so people were saying this is this is aerodynamic and I was thinking it is but I don't think it's going to make that much of a difference in this yeah scenario and whether it did or not or whether it was just the fact that you didn't break much yeah I think that was it it was quite heavy it was heavy as well you had one of the heavy ones so at the start you can tell this was one of the things we were saying we should have got two people cuz we only got Jake to shove us at the start yeah and when when you start off just going down the ramp it took us a while to pick up speed if we had sort of been shoved and started at a really good pace and kept it at that pace I genely think we could have built the record but I'm I want to do it again same that's why I wanted to keep that cuz we could have just modified that and send it down we know that's a winning formula yeah make it into a submarine or something yeah exactly that thing works but Red Bull like they they we had such a great time with them they did so much for us and we were so grateful and we were speaking see nothing guaranteed and stuff um but they were saying there's a potential for us to come back and maybe do the one that you know you launch off a ramp and you're like 10 m up whatever and you've got to Glide over water as far as possible there and there are loads of other sort of like cool Red Bull events and stuff to do so um yeah I think we make this a thing if we can do just more of this stuff yeah I loved it it was genuinely one of the best things I've ever done I think yeah and there's a the the the only annoying thing is there's so much footage it's going to take a while to get the video together because Red Bull have Clips we have clips they've sent us a hard driver clipse I've got stuff on my phone B has stuff on his phone Jake has stuff on his phone so we'll gather it all together but when the video comes out I think it'll be such a good one because so good the whole experience was just the coolest thing ever and we couldn't be more grateful to Red Bull for that the perfect run at the end we just ended it so perfectly the whole experience I think yeah it couldn't have gone better afterwards I so cool yeah I couldn't get the helmet off though we got to the very end I could not figure out how to unclip the helmet so I did the interview with a helmet on yeah they could not hear thing as well you hear me go oh the atmosphere was electric and I know he said the electric thing and then we um yeah we Kenny from South Park hanging out with us we to I finally I got someone to take my helmet off we drove the soap box down to the graveyard thing but they said they weren't going to break it we put it to one side it might be broken and then we had to run up the hill because we had to get on the live stream to do an interview straight afterwards yeah and oh my God you realize how far we came down Running Up That thing that it was 400 to 500 M back up a relatively Steep Hill on a very hot day we were exhausted from the day before and uh being out the night before and having the race and all that kind of stuff and in boiler suits and it was a hot day boiling I got so sweaty at the top we got to the top and we were like that was just a thoroughly unenjoyable experience but it was cool cuz there I heard I don't I think I told you at the time I heard a kid as we ran past he was like oh my God racers felt like an F1 driver in that moment yeah that really went straight to my head yeah I bet we felt a lot cooler than we probably looked just running around in boiler suits and I'm my Red Bull cap on we had shades on surprised he hasn't got that red bull cap on today by the way that thing you're going to have to peel that off his dead body I've been wearing it so much lady just cuz I I love it it's good for green screen stuff that is the one thing I I might start wearing cuts out the wispy hair yeah it cuts out the wispy hair which kind of ruin the illusion I've got that real issue whereas when you wear a cap it's like a smooth round thing and the green screen just looks much better I see my editors have all been like wear a cap as often as possible oh so they even so they tell you what to do huh you're not Char they do interesting well I keep my editors locked away and then I give them footage and they're like please I want to see my family please share an editor now no King yeah we do shout out king great honestly fantastic worker his work ethic he sent me a video and like couple hours later he was like actually here's a V2 I watched it back and I I could see some improvements I was like kind of mentality and he's not been editing for long either yeah so he's I think all selft talk cow's amazing as well they're both just great honestly yeah people listening a fascinated here about how much we love our tives yeah let's get back to the Red Bull so box race so then we did our interview at the very top which is when cuz we went down first so we were Then followed by all the other creators who did the race um we didn't really get to see them at the time cuz we were running up the the bloody Hill but um we got to the top they all slowly joined us did their interview and then it got revealed the scores so there were different categories we were like ranked on or scored on the first being performance and I I'm pretty sure the style of the cart comes into that as well yeah and so we what did we get like what was it 20 22 it was really bad 40 terrible score we got like a seven a six a three and a five something like that whoever gave us a three what's wrong with you huh they were grumpy though cuz I think chip and frezy got something like 39 and the guy that person gave them a nine apparently they were really mean scoring the whole time that's crazy but chip and fzy knew about the performance thing which we I know how they knew about that we had no idea chip and freezy raced as a box of 20 chicken McNuggets yeah and they brought like homemade barbecue sauce and just on each other yeah pry just poured it all over them it was good like as performances go that's like the best thing you can do yeah so they got a really great score like almost perfect just one guy dropped a mark on it um 39 out 40 but I feel like I feel like giving us a three was really harsh I know our performance wasn't great but the music was very fitting yeah and maybe we should have pretended we were on the moon with our jumping or something like walking like that he just had such a cool carard we had so little time to think about it yeah I feel like it was harsh though look at our car that was really cool yeah maybe we were also ranked harshly because we were the first creators to go down maybe maybe we would have got a better score if we were towards the end I don't know yeah maybe but um yeah we did really bad on that and then you get obviously score for your speed in finishing the race yeah which we smashed Everyone by like four four seconds or something or seven or eight yeah like seven or eight seconds Quicks first to second and the second fastest and I think Becky and pieace got a dnf finish either they hit a minute or they stopped completely yeah cuz they went over one of the jumps and then front end broke so the wheel wasn't really like or the front was touching the floor dragging across the floor so they just I felt bad for them they just ped all across but at least they got down in one piece that's the they were just in a pint glass yeah it was really cool and they had a they had a cool performance Becky poured pint on um pie which was funny um con and Jack had a cool performance they just had some Swagger about it like yeah it was cool oh yeah we got picked on the performance but they did struggle getting into the vehicle did they yeah CU it's really hard and narrow to get in um they got they everyone got all the way to the end by the way Colin Jack fell over at the end there thing just went on its side they they chose thinner Wheels I didn't think they were going to make it that far yeah they also had a really high center of gravity cuz their car was thin and quite tall yeah like if you looked at their car it looked like it wanted to fall over it was a bit like chitty chitty bang bang but like elongated yeah so they did really well to and they were drifting it as well it was drifting so they did really well to get to the bottom um but yeah we were like seven seconds quicker than seven or eight seconds quicker than the second fastest which was it chip and freezy or was it Con I think it might have been no chip and frezy was Heavy wasn't it to be fair so that would move um and then there was People's Choice which we said we won 49% and was those were those those three so I think the reason so we ended up coming third we came third out of the four I just think it wasn't like cuz we won two out of three categories you'd think we'd win but I think they gave they were sort of like weighted yeah so because we were so low on the performance us being ahead on the other two bits didn't pull us up enough I think it's really harsh I think it doesn't matter at all by the way I don't I don't care but I do think it's harsh that performance is weighted so heavily in comparison to like speed has got to be the most important thing yeah like it's a race I know that's that's the way we were looking at it that's because it's a race come on we were focus on the race as aspect obviously soap boxes isn't Formula 1 is supposed to be like a bit of fun cretive stuff which you do get um but yeah hard winning two out of three categories and winning the race comfortably well it was more like at in the moment when they were revealing who won out of us four I was thinking in my head oh we've definitely won yeah after winning we got like 50% of the votes for People's Choice so it was a landslide Victory they said and a landslide Victory on the speed so I was thinking we have smashed those two things so surely we've gained loads of points for that yeah and we came third I was like I'm actually quite shocked by that I in my head I was thinking oh my God we've won yeah but um no it was so means anything like there's I don't there's nothing for it yeah I was just surprised but genuinely so it was so good yeah it was it was definitely definitely one of the best things I've ever done I was so glad that we did it I can't wait for the proper video to come out and have it all like a documentary s of documented archive just being like Oh I can look back at that video that was a banger yeah oh it was it was really good um then we stuck around and watched some public racing um and yeah there was it was it was nice there was a nice like area where you could get food and stuff and the worms showed up oh yeah lots of the patreon supporters a couple of N and non patreon people showed up lots of podcast people I'm guessing everyone there was podcast listeners because I didn't really put it on any platform no I think it it was all podcast we spoken about on the on on the podcast and in the patreon group chat quite a lot yeah and that was pretty much it so thank you well regardless if it's yeah thank you guys for coming along cuz it was so nice speaking to everyone great really great to have your support um yeah and yeah you guys were there for most of the day just like stood by our um what do you call it Soap Box stood by our Soap Box we were coming over when we could to say hi and stuff yeah everyone got photos we oh my goodness quite a lot of people wanted us to draw tattoos for them oh dear and we are not artistic no we're close yeah I'm a letter away but I not draw sa in my life and I was like the only thing I could think of was the rocket emoji yeah that was pretty good to be fair I was trying to draw them but getting the three little things at the bottom and the fire I was like I was like show this to your artist and they'll get what I'm trying to draw yeah they'll understand I mean I just ended up drawing flowers CU it's the easiest thing to draw it's got nothing to do with me a lot of art what just happened you just got bored of your own conversation I just yawned I was hoping you take it off me really quickly cuz I yawned no someone asked for a cameo once where they were like can you draw something for us to do a tattoo and I did a a ringed planet oh nice and oh my goodness trying to get cuz obviously if you put the circle there first the ring that goes in front like cuts through lines and it looks crap so you've kind of got to start with the ring but obviously just as the ring curves back around you have to stop and then you have to imagine where the sphere is going to be and oh my goodness I burnt through about half this notebook trying to get one that just looks semi-reasonable so whoever invented Saturn fair enough yeah exactly that must have been difficult and Uranus yep that's also ringed yeah um many too many rings yeah I've got a ring do you oh yeah and that weekend batch proposed to me so I said yes no I'm talking about my ass what anyway um it was it was a different kind of proposition to the one you were thinking of yours is way cuter than mine and I said no oh hell no I just got that that's disgusting cuz I was like on Saturday night we were just chilling we were like go we're exhausted yeah and I was like do you want to just stay around and Bach was like yeah so we played fornite and watch scary movies yeah he took me to get sushi again yeah we went to sticks and Sushi again but I was like I kind of want to make more videos but we were just so tired yeah I it was too late you just what you made me watch horror stuff we we watched a bunch of scary videos on YouTube like real ghost sightings and short horror movies and I was like I've wanted to do videos like that with you ages I was like then was the perfect time but our energy was just shock yeah we'll do it we'll definitely do it another time though CU people just love that love that horror game yeah is entertaining to watch other people get scared people don't want to watch you have fun they want to watch you cringe and be scared people enjoyed us having fun of Minecraft true but you were scared of I died like five six times I'm not very good clearly everyone's making fun of me did I die once I didn't I don't think no but your spirit died at one point hell no my spirit my spirit was always my spirit were through the roof um when I was getting attacked by Leona Lewis and I was hiding in the house turns out Leona Lewis can't go in water so I should have just gone in water I saw that comment yeah thanks for that thanks for the comment I'm actually going to use that logic and I I already want to film episode three right now do you yeah it was so fun we'll do it this week actually it's so fun like I enjoy playing it we're just loading up M fil although he needs a he needs a setup can we can we tell this boy to put some money towards a proper setup he plays on his PlayStation so we have to play Bedrock Edition so I can't use my nice shaders that make the waters and everything look clean and all the like graphics and stuff you know the like it's T's water we're keeping it the graphics upgrades are insane look just just a bit enjoy a humble bit of like Minecraft where it's nostalgic not everything has to be polished yeah okay fine um but no it was it was really good fun and it is it is I do love that we can just do that kind of stuff and just play a game and it would be fun yeah um we can just like high five when we want yeah anyway um back to let's go back in time to um the end of the race he wet himself no he didn't he didn't no he didn't but um I just want to make sure that we covered everything no because we didn't speak about um the stunt the stunts oh yeah you should tell them about the stunt they they just flung on you they didn't tell you until yeah they didn't tell me about this before and they made me sign my rights away yeah and it it was they had already Ked off the live stream so you just had to do it yeah um we basically batch got nice one he got pulled aside and they were like oh is the driver we're testing your reflexes yeah and what did they do they so she dropped a ruler and you just had to grab the ruler um as soon as she dropped it and just see how many centimeters you let drop to judge your reaction time I didn't do I think I came second actually nice but on the practice I failed uh so I was like oh that was nice and peaceful and fun I wonder what mine's going to be and they get me and they they I put this heart monitor on and I was like what they put this heart monitor on me put me in the middle of this cage and this dude called like Douglas or something comes up in this massive dirt bike and just goes like I'll lie down in the middle and I was like I know exactly where this is going got R to me and Jack just start planking and he's sort of in this giant he giant of a man I swear he's like 6'4 in this massive dirt bike and he's sort of there like on one wheel bouncing the like wheel like an inch from my head and I'm like if he just if anything misjudges he crushes my skull yeah like we we we lose one of the Bright Young talents of this generation and you as well wait what do you mean well they'd get Jack and you oh yeah yeah good old Jack and then then he was doing like wheelies around your head like just driving past full speed past his head yeah it was giving me the E actually see lie down there insane and I was just like well I'm playing it cool cuz that's like the name of the game it'd be cringe if I got up and I mean they they even said that if you get up you're at risk of just getting your head whacked cuz he's like an inch within your head so if you move it until you die yeah um and for like a minute he just did this and bounced around and yeah you were down there for a hot minute yeah we were there for ages just getting driven around I thought oh this is just getting this is just cruel now yeah I mean the poor boy is just lying there with a boner by the way uh because he gets that happens when he gets scared just why you think I keep getting you for horror games oh no i h on a Bo so he's just doing circling circling circling around Arthur on the floor it just I just felt a bit sorry for him in the end yeah uh so that was terrifying but good F night you know I'm up for anything I did realized the other day I'm just one of his friends who's just up for thing yeah you are actually someone could be like hey we're going to sit inside and watch movies tonight I be like fine or they can be like come on man we're robbing a bank I'm like cool they'll be like come on going glamping for the weekend do you is that real though if I said or okay let's go and watch the Euros tonight fine let's do it England England this is the last night of the group stage and all of a sudden the mood is really dead because we're just through now we've not played well either it's been pathetic there I said it and Harry Kane when you finally come on this podcast I've got some strong words to have with you mine mine Reserve is Gareth Southgate and not bringing BR and not playing kobby Mayu okay sorry Harry Kane actually way he's playing phenomenally to be not as if we're missing him but I'm mad at you Southgate yeah Italy um not playing too bad oh my goodness you're Italian did you watch the game last night and they scored the 90th plus eight to go through 98th minute it was the draw against Croatia oh that was heartbreaking poor the thing is they probably would have gone through anyway as one of the people third but um it's nice to confirm it you know yeah those moments of elation just so hard I think Italy just like a decent Striker anyway we won't bore you with football because a lot of people probably don't care about football yeah um but yeah I mean I'm getting into F1 now yes you are you watch drive to survive right yeah I've been watching drive to surv I need to get on that I really want to watch that um and hence why the Red Bull so box race I was really in I was really in my element Because You Loved does it make you love Red Bull as well the driver to survive does it follow a particular team it follows the mall and to be honest I haven't really got like a team I really um it's not like I really want to see this team win it's more people that you care about it's good to see Red Bull doing well but um I like Lando do you yeah you're Lando Norris enjoyer I'm a Lando enjoyer I like them all to be fair from what I've seen I like I get I like Char all oh cuz he kind he kind of looks like Charles mclair uh yeah I get uh Lando Norris a lot people always say like L nor I'm not sure about that boy and uh obviously like V stappen red the Red Bull goat what batch V stappen high five what does that even mean batch for steppen me batch for steppen batch for steppen me instead of Max for Sten batch for Sten it's one of the only times that batch really goes into anything batch for Sten what do people nickname you at school get tuna boy cuz I've brought in tuna fish boy uh right I was going duckling I was going for more names like name related like okay because I was oh name related I was I was called nothing I was just called Arthur I don't know why I said it like that I was called Nothing me yeah had no friends at school no I didn't really people would say ice as a joke ice yeah I just I didn't like not having a cool nickname name my sister one of my sisters calls me Izzy that's really cringe and feminine yo she watches these which is fine yo she watches these apologize down the lens right now I apologize nothing cuz it is it was true it was my truly held opinion and you should never apologize for being yourself sometimes she calls me Elizabeth as well what and I don't really know where she got that from she started that was a good what what yeah she watches it where she works as she was working she'll have it on Gizzy by the way I didn't get cancelled for what Sunday came out where I waterboarded Chris I haven't watched that and I was seriously worried I was genuinely like I thought you know just some people on the internet can be real yeah cuz they might be like oh you're making fun of water boarding people actually die from water boarding that's not what I exactly what I meant oh because okay you can't waterboard Chris because he doesn't like water and some people have been drowned before no okay of course because because you shouldn't do water boarding because it's like saying this is something you should it's really on impressionable fans and they'll be like okay I'm going to water board my mom tonight right maybe maybe that was like oh you shouldn't do that on to an impression I'm going to cancel you right now in that case um but no I I I just thought people would be like oh that was so mean of him they're not friends like just you know when you don't really know I mean obviously anyone who's seen Chris and videos knows how much abuse he puts me through I mean that guy abuse shs down on my neck like there's no tomorrow he's just I I'll just be chilling mid shootting he'll just go on my traps I mean granted they're juicy like they're nice muscular defined um have you ever thought you might just be a vampire I don't know hiding in plain sight you know you've got two Pierce marks right there you getting sucked by you've got really garlicky breath so I don't think I could be a a vampire cuz otherwise let's not start rumors like that otherwise I'd run there's not start rumors like that yeah my breath smells like daisies rainbows fairy tales I'm always chewing gum you are always chewing gum you're a real gum chewer yeah it Bo it boosts your confidence it's like putting a pair of sunglasses on I'm glad you don't do it on the podcast that would be the most annoying thing to listen to I have done it before but I just tuck it into my teeth like snz you don't mean that it's gum you don't mean that it's gum it's just weird you don't mean that it's gum gum started freaking out you know we were speaking about eggs the other day when you you're Midway through eating heads and you're like wait up yeah that's a period something ain't right that's a menstrual cycle raor and you're like yeah well that weirdly makes me like it more it's more than I knew you were a feminist me too come on yeah um we do like to bring awareness to the fact that women exist and have Cycles cuz I I I mentioned menstrual cycles all the time and I in one of my YouTube videos I was like I've got to stop saying menstrual cycles drop a comment if you think I should stop saying menual cycle everyone's like no and someone's like no it actually feels kind of feminist in a weird way cuz you're bringing light to the fact of cuz not everyone knows that women have I think everyone knows women have periods I found out 3 days ago watching your video you thought they had penis what I just thought they merely existed they merely exist in a in a realm Between Heaven and Hell where somewhere I love doesn't exist what the hell is this guy talking about women only exist in heaven women are heaven on Earth in my opinion how does that song Go heaven heaven for what it's worth women are heaven on Earth women are heaven on Earth brother in Christ you don't know what you're talking about right now I feel like we're getting on to Serious brain rot have you got anything else this is a rare batch prepared actually been praying preparing a lot um all of the episodes lately we've actually yeah hence why the quality's increased um no you just you do stuff in a different way I like like reading and talking reading well next episode's prepared by by Arthur and we'll be filming this directly after this one yeah we're doing complet transparency cuz batch is way on holiday and I'm going to be honest because I'm not I've not brought a spare pair of clothes anyway yeah me neither I don't want to hear no comments like why is he wearing that shirt again well they should be comenting CU alth this on an episode before quite frankly Arthur is either can I just say by the way I predicted what you were going to be wearing on the Red Bull meal I said Arthur will turn up in Black corduroy shorts um and a cream beige top shirt either worn as an overshirt with a white t-shirt underneath or just a shirt that's exactly what you were that's true I mean I have two other pairs of shorts I had a black like pair that were like had textured but the waistband thing snapped hard to find a good pair of shorts and then I had a nice like cream beige pair yeah um but they were just like I don't know linen and just ended up being a bit too and take it from a guy a sleepover with him he doesn't take them off he showers in them he goes me to take them off he was like take them off take them off take them off and I was like leave me alone yeah I was like please wash please wash you were just misreading me I wasn't saying take them off I was like please wash please wash anyway I I got the um I went into the patreon chat o uh little plug if you want to join the patreon go ahead there's a chat you get early access to episodes they get uploaded all the time and Bullies me in it yeah I do speak in there a fair amount um and I said to them we're filming two pods today can you guys reply to this message with any questions you have about the Red Bull Soapbox race we're going to be doing a whole episode on it uh because I thought there might be you know they might want to know more information on how it was built or how we were feeling and stuff and we could just give us some insight to that we've just explained the day how cool it was blah blah blah but they want to know the BTS let's see how insightful their questions can be okay did you hurt your nose that's [ __ ] rude no I didn't that obviously pointed at you no I didn't to be fair I did we had said in an episode prior that there was no foam and we are going to smash our faces in they put foam in we had good helmets on but we didn't actually crash so yeah we didn't crash so although his coxic bone is in pain yeah my coxics I'm absolutely fine because I'm not weak that's your tailbone um may ask for us highly evolved Apes that was from Brooke by the way I'll say names shout outs May says how SL why did you decide to build a rocket why I guess cuz it's very on brand for us have a look at our mugs yep yeah I mean we're just we're were're a Spacey themed podcast for no apparent reason we genely I'm sure we said in the earlier episodes we had no plans to be themed and bats just randomly one day went let's just make it space themed I just think it's cool yeah me I just think we both think it's cool we do we just need a cool set I think most of the things we do is because we think oh that's cool like the Soap Box we thought oh it'd be cool if we did a a ship or a ufi yeah just cuz it just cuz it's funny someone actually messaged in for the next one I've got like the submissions from the normal submissions page which everyone can enter just go to our any of our socials at Bach and arur and in the link there's like a a link tree and one of them is the submissions form and they were like what is your target audience because I can't really figure it out and I'm studying media at the moment target audience is such a big thing and I was like we don't have one we just come on talk about whatever we find interesting yeah and just hope that some people agree yeah and the people who do listen are actually very um diverse yeah and intelligent and cool and good looking and all this yeah um so yeah no um yeah and it's weird because we're not sitting there going oh let's talk about this to appeal to this audience which I think is I mean somehow it works so thank you guys for tuning into thanks cuz I think if you analyzed it in like a media class and it was like oh one minute you're doing brain rot meme references and the next you're talking about s men and then the next we're talking about Greek philosophy and the next one like Roman Parables and then religion they'd be like well someone's going to listen to the one episode like it and then not like the rest yeah but for some reason people just like listening to it all really I think we just decided that we're just going to do what we want like yeah whatever we enjoy yeah like whatever we enjoy and whatever we F feel like talking about we're just going to do it because if you want to enjoy something you've like if you want this if we want this podcast to continue we've got to enjoy it and if we're looking at it tactically like Oh Let's do an episode on this so we can boost our audience in this demographic it will start to feel like a like a real job well like you know I've heard from other people that do podcasts that their producers will be like today you're having this guest on and they're like well I've never watched the show they're on or Never follow them don't care about the story but I've got to do it's nice that we kind of have a just able to just go oh whatever and I do think the stuff we talk about is interesting broadly like if you're someone who like whenever we meet or speak to anyone who watches the podcast they're always like oh I love like these types of interesting discussions I feel like if you have a generally curious mind yeah like if if people who are listening to this and enjoy it are going to be similar to us in that respect and they you know even if they don't have a an interest in any of the particular like they might be like oh I love hearing about religion I'm a curious person but they don't care about Greek philosophy yeah or anything when we speak about the ship of thesis they're still like oh it's an interesting thought like it's an interesting thought so if you're one of those types of people like us then all that kind of stuff is interesting I guess thus our our demographic is people who just have similar interests to us yeah or like have a similar outlook on life or yeah that's the thing it's not even like it's just it's the broad value of curiosity I think who just like they like to laugh they like a bit of Comedy cuz we even get people who disagree with us and they're like oh I'm religious I completely disagree with this all but it was so interesting to listen to and so they're not listening because we're speaking about things that they find um they agree with or they enjoy you know but they're going like oh like I like the way these topics are approached or the way this is discussed and yeah so yeah hopefully we'll try and keep that up um hey no way we're going to brain Rock 24/7 after here or no anyway um Connie asked what was your top speed we don't actually know but what did you think it was 30 well when we passed we passed the speed gate at what will be one of the fastest points and that was 30 okay mil K yeah km pH um Leia says do you think you were going to make it to the Finish Line did you think you were going to make it to the Finish Line I genuinely um did not think we were going to make it past the chicane to be honest yeah cuz I didn't realize the course was as wide as it was however the as narrow as it was you mean actually yeah yes and no the thing is it's like driving a car when you're in a car it looks like you're you're bigger than the road but actually you can fit in much smaller of a gap than you expect yourself to be able to and so when you're actually in the soap box when we were doing the chicane in my head I thought we're going to catch one of the hay bals and go flying but actually although it was actually pretty close watching it back it felt like I had enough room to get round and stuff well two hay bals we did fully slic through well yeah if the wings were like flat fronted we would have we could have just spun out flown but because the wings were just like yeah we the first one and then the second one we through that yeah um but in no I didn't think we were going to make it down in one piece to be honest I thought either we'd get to the end and there' be damage or we'd fall over at the end or we just wouldn't make it to the end cuz it's not a like it more often than not you don't make it to the end yeah so I thought statistically I didn't I didn't think we were going to make it to the end so I was surprised were you or not it's so funny because at the start you're like I really don't know but be when you're going down it's so fast and you've got to think a lot like yeah I was just constantly thinking like just monitoring whether we were going too fast or not to be like bring the speed down ever so slightly and it's everything's happening so fast you don't have time to think oh are we going to make it like any hypotheticals it's just uh pull the break break on break off break off oh my goodness are we going to make this corner are we going to too fast at how are we doing like all this kind of stuff's rushing through your head I didn't even think about it I was no so yeah I had no thoughts in my head either I think we were just on reflex at that point yeah because every yeah like Arthur said everything's coming at you so quick like before the chane I thought I had enough time to put my hand up and wave and I was like [ __ ] no I don't yeah so that's when I came back onto the wheel and did that so we really don't have much time in that thing um then Phoenix asks what was the hardest and easiest part of the creative process oh hard po was coming up with an idea for what we wanted to do as the car because we took ages like they were asking us for the design for so long and we were like we really don't know it is hard when you can do literally anything it's like the classic situation where you've got too much Choice yeah so you can't make a decision and neither necessarily creative creative types yeah so we and also it's it's difficult as well when there's two people because obviously if one person wants to do something we we agreed yeah we we didn't have any friction on what we wanted to do we because we both didn't really have an idea but you've got to make sure that what one person comes up with the other person's happy to do um but I think from the go we just suggested either a space shuttle or UFO we were both happy with those two ideas and then we had a look at some pictures and we thought okay let's go for a space sh that was it yeah so I think that um it was hard in the beginning but to to be honest the decision process was pretty easy for us in the end I do think the hardest part although that was hard I think what was harder for us was probably um building the chassis don't you think it was harder than the woodwork yeah that's probably true cuz we didn't have any engineer assistance with the underly car yeah the actual chassis itself we just had bits like we didn't have instructions for half of it we were in in a big Warehouse with just a bunch of nuts bolts rods	TV intro that right right so then we uh we got into the race so no we got into the Zone where the race was going on yeah and we got to have a little scout out all the public submitted soap boxes some really cool stuff in there yeah although there was one weird one because we rock up and there are like four girls gathered around water is essentially a double bed one girl just tucked up and you back like oh this is cool and she was like yeah it's really cozy get in we were like no I I ain't doing all that I'm sure though that you know that wasn't actually her like lying in it yeah I know you could tell something was weird under the covers but I was not getting involved what what what the hell um oh you can't see my soundboard I've got to pull this back so I can soundboard here yeah he hasn't got a soundboard yet thank goodness although I should no they all see the comments by the way Lara and Arthur see the comments and Lara even said into the group chat she was like I think we need to get bat of soundboard because of all the comments she sent me a message being like listen we've got one purchase a year we can authorize either we get cool mugs or batch gets a soundboard and I was like mugs mugs oh hell no	6	4	8	TV intro that right right so then we uh we got into the race so no we got into the Zone where the race was going on yeah and we got to have a little scout out all the public submitted soap boxes some really cool stuff in there yeah although there was one weird one because we rock up and there are like four girls gathered around water is essentially a double bed one girl just tucked up and you back like oh this is cool and she was like yeah it's really cozy get in we were like no I I ain't doing all that I'm sure though that you know that wasn't actually her like lying in it yeah I know you could tell something was weird under the covers but I was not getting involved what what what the hell um oh you can't see my soundboard I've got to pull this back so I can soundboard here yeah he hasn't got a soundboard yet thank goodness although I should no they all see the comments by the way Lara and Arthur see the comments and Lara even said into the group chat she was like I think we need to get bat of soundboard because of all the comments she sent me a message being like listen we've got one purchase a year we can authorize either we get cool mugs or batch gets a soundboard and I was like mugs mugs oh hell no	I think we need to get bat of soundboard because of all the comments	4,3,6	2,1,4	4	3	6	2	1	4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0g_xJvKEb8	4,108	-0g_xJvKEb8	2024-06-27 00:00:00	[Music] what's up everybody welcome back to episode 14 of the batch and Arthur podcast yay go thanks for joining everyone we have something to reveal yes we do I know you guys don't like it when Arthur has his mug on the couch because he tends to drop things don't you never dropped anything actually okay you dropped that th done remember that well you might have noticed I also have my mug on the sofa mhm wondering why who wants to know why should we tell them something to do with one like equals one Lara maybe something to do with that exactly you guys ready see what you reveal go way for audio listeners we have white mugs with our little cartoon characters on them that's right little will I didn't want to Cheers you and I've got my little handsome space guy come on yeah Lara surprised us with these this is a gift um mine shatterproof as well apparently oh it's not sh yeah he's got a plastic mug because we know what he's like I've sippy C the audio listeners actually little rubber cppy cup with two handles well actually when Arthur drinks from a mug show them how you do it I'll I'll commentate for this he uses two hands so he grabs on the like handle and then he grabs the other hand I drink everything with two hands especially tea and Pints yeah I don't really know what is there a reason for that or not safety I guess twice as balanced is that really if one arm stops working the other one's there as a fail safe well there you go that's why he does it guys so it makes sense all after all yeah um speaking of batch and Arthur this podcast design right here yeah this has been plasted on something recently what our rocket ship oh yeah guys we just got back from the Red Bull Soap Box race and we're alive 2024 we genuinely were not sure we were going to survive no I was but we did really scared we we turned up we got to see other people's cards um and there was basically two things going on so there's like a public race and then the Creator race was like a separate thing which is streamed on YouTube If you go on Red Bull's um YouTube channel and you go on under the live tab you can actually watch the full thing yeah we were like a half time race yeah it was Bas half time show yeah there was a few people who weren't happy about the Creator's uh racing cuz they thought we were mixed in with the public but it's like a whole separate thing like we can't win any awards over the public or anything like that yeah um but but we won the hearts of the public come on yeah we did win the hearts of the public there was a a couple of things that you were like rated on as creators and one of them was People's Choice and we got a landslide victory of 44% yeah it actually ended up on 49% 50% out of four teams we got 49 everyone rounds 49 thank you to everyone who voted for us we one of four teams but we're up against chip and freezy who have a big loving audience Becky and pieace who audience and then con from the siden huge loving audience and the guy who's our cameraman on the train video the siden that's right Jack was there as well went to with con they had cool out but uh we we got to Ali p uh that's my first time there you've been there before actually I think we should start the day before okay let's let's reel that [ __ ] back because we had another sleepover kind of yeah we did have another let's just say oh no we didn't really a hotel yeah we did not have a sleepover but what did we do where did we first meet we we met at the we met at the hotel at the hotel dropped our bags off Adam was there he's the Red Bull guy that was been looking after us and he took all the creators out to dinner yeah we to find the tell first yeah chopped a pint um both hands come on yeah then we got in a taxi we went to dinner we had a create a dinner um what did you eat pizza yeah I had a really really hot hot pizza but the thing I was enjoying the most was the football we had a massive screen in front of us oh yeah cuz France were playing Netherlands NE scen I felt kind of harsh cuz the the table was positioned in a way that only half of us could see the football and the other half were just watching us watching football yeah but no he they were watching a react video basically they got to see us live reacting In the Flesh um but the meal was really good the food was really good uh Jake was struggling Jake the guy works with um Arthur they both got the same Pizza he was struggling with the heat yeah he was [ __ ] [ __ ] struggling with the Pint as well got two pints steep was steaming no cuz he was so in denial Jake yeah Jake had a couple pints and he was gone we were like you are drunk he like I am not drunk and he was getting angry mad I'm not even drunk he's I haven't even done anything later he's doing karaoke so that's belting out karaoke with his phone to the to the mic with with voice note on my God it's so that was you singing those Tunes to someone yeah we yeah CU you've been to a place before should we say the name of the place or not I actually I don't remember it anyway okay we went to this place anyway Arthur's been there before it's um like a karaoke bar with uh like an arcade and bowling and there's a dance floor and like a bar and stuff like that yeah very good fun we all went there did some karaoke went there for Arthur Hill's birthday that's how I found out about it what a place it is a cool place actually um yeah did a bit of karaoke we were in there for a couple hours doing karaoke in the end yeah um belting at tunes by the way batch can sing No Arthur can sing yeah but I think people would assume that from but that goes without saying no but but Frank Sinatra came on and oh my goodness batch was just cooking that thing anyone can sing Frank arra welcome back Frank Sinatra he died and this is him reborn wasn't wasn't he heavily involved with the mafia Frank Sinatra so are you you're a quter Italian that's true but I can't admit that no not legally anyway oops they're going to come and get me try and come and get me watch me beat beat you all up actually I shouldn't say what if they do don't come and get me please I was just kidding I've got nothing to do with him he lives on 32 Italian back street oh my god that actually is my house number H what don't say that it's not that's my apartment number as well no we you're not finding out where we live um I'm going to move in with Arthur anyway we moved in together on Minecraft yeah sort of anyway back to karaoke we had fun at karaoke then we went home we didn't get back till 3:00 a.m. silly move because we had to be up early yeah we had it well not that early we had 10: a.m. taxi picks up yeah but we met at breakfast at 9:30 it was the most romantic breakfast of my life yeah um and then stayed at the Hilton Red Bull of class they put us in there they also like what a lovely experience not only did they take us to dinner they they paid for karaoke and everything like that they covered everything shout out to Red Ball I'm going to crack One open right now and they're actually delicious all these colored red balls my actual favorite is the summer edition you guys should actually try this this is not sponsored but I'm just saying this is not even the first thing I I did I went to salburg in Austria and did some Red Bull salburg video shooting with Chris MD um we did like penal sh outs in games with mads bistrup for their YouTube channel and then did a video in it was the the final one of christed uh every time you beat a Defender the defender gets upgraded that's right yeah and we start off with like Harry R Shaw as the worst Defender when all the way up to Champions League mads bistr who fantastic player I mean yeah you realize how like when you watch t uh football on TV you think oh I could do that yeah but then if you see a actual Pro in real life yeah like that makes sense why you went pro now actually we need to do more charity so that was fun that was fun there are a lot going on it's just timings cuz there's so many things going on during summer and that's usually when charity matches go down yeah but you got to work in the schedules either you're away or I'm away or there's a brand trip or something has to be submitted in time was crazy yeah but um no I'm sure we're going to do a lot more stuff with Red Bull as well so that's exciting um but anyway we then got the taxi to Alex Alexandra Palace Ali pal come on and um I've only just realized that's why it's Ali P really yeah I just thought that Ali P was the hill and Alexandre Palace was no way Ali now I've just heard it okay that's Ali P right anyway U you almost did a off the TV intro that right right so then we uh we got into the race so no we got into the Zone where the race was going on yeah and we got to have a little scout out all the public submitted soap boxes some really cool stuff in there yeah although there was one weird one because we rock up and there are like four girls gathered around water is essentially a double bed one girl just tucked up and you back like oh this is cool and she was like yeah it's really cozy get in we were like no I I ain't doing all that I'm sure though that you know that wasn't actually her like lying in it yeah I know you could tell something was weird under the covers but I was not getting involved what what what the hell um oh you can't see my soundboard I've got to pull this back so I can soundboard here yeah he hasn't got a soundboard yet thank goodness although I should no they all see the comments by the way Lara and Arthur see the comments and Lara even said into the group chat she was like I think we need to get bat of soundboard because of all the comments she sent me a message being like listen we've got one purchase a year we can authorize either we get cool mugs or batch gets a soundboard and I was like mugs mugs oh hell no I just think it's so much funnier when you do it yourself and go to I do think so but this is going to get worn down and eventually there's going to be a Hole uh oh audio listeners don't know what I'm doing I I just I pretend there's a soundboard and I just push the sof and make my I do it as well I do it in real life I'll be speaking to people when I'm BR but it doesn't make his much sense in real life just in a conversation he's just air poking stuff as he goes brh you know what's so funny as well I showed batch this someone one of you guys one of our listeners because cuz I you do it quite a lot but I do it all the time at you do the what yeah what that thing someone did a Tik Tok called whatting people in public so she goes into this petrol station goes to pay she goes like how much is that and he goes like Oh 1350 and she just goes what loud so loud just yells it in this man's face and everyone was like bad bad you guys have to recreate this it was so funny yeah and then Arthur was like we've got to do this we've got I don't know if I have the like what is it um social confidence to do that I'd be able to do it not yell it I thought it was a bit rude though the loud yelling not in a bad I'm not criticizing you I just able to do that like that myself I'd be like what I think sorry you got no no soup of the day what what when you have a camera on you though that you get a new found confidence in public like I found no no no in general I don't know if you agree with this in like a sidan video I Feel Like rules don't apply like social rules then don't apply cuz you've got a camer on you and you can do what you want whatever you want yeah I've only recently started being able to finally find it within myself to Vlog like when we were at wagas I was like this is actually fine yeah whereas before IID look at people vlogging in public and I go I admire you a lot cuz I can never do that it helps having people around you yeah although I feel like we do it with our phones it's a bit easier that's true whereas if people with their cameras out like facing their way I'm like oh my goodness I'd be so embarrassed yeah I think I would be as well especially if you got like a big rig on the end of that thing people are just admiring you your rig yeah both of them come on anyway um what speaking of the soap boxes that we saw um there was this one there was like these four guys like lying down chilling and they had this like Dome oh yeah which was kind of like a I guess like a spa you know the space shuttles that come down to earth it kind of looked a bit like that didn't yeah um like a landing module yeah like a landing module and they what did what did they make it off fiberglass or something yeah oh my God you could smell it from where we were still and they were like stick your head in that so we stuck it you stuck your head in first took a whiff and I did it afterwards oh my God dizzying genuinely dizzying I'm high I'm still high from that moment if anyone's ever been in like a a surfboard shop where they like make the surfboards yeah it smells like that it just smell exactly like that and they bizarre I just burped on I thought that was what that was that was disgusting hopefully that didn't get picked up apologize sorry guys sorry if you heard that cut that out anyway um it's not getting cut uh it they had to spend the whole run down in that thing so I think those guys are a little bit waved yeah I'm glad we I'm glad we were just a team of two and had two seats because I kind of felt bad some people that pushed the Soap Box thing down yeah like running after it for like 50 meters and it was a hot day that's true like um most people was like a team of four and two would push two would be in it I think that's standard isn't it to have two people in the so box and then a team that will push and Chase it down probably chase down chip and freezies yeah funny it was funny as well the way he was running because I guess it was like a it was like Looney Tunes the way he had his arms up like that chasing them down to be fair there are people I felt more bad for he talking about some of the injuries of the day oh my God and this is the thing like good gosh man we were already nervous then we were then we got to S see our um vehicle which they had made some mods to by the way so put me at ease a little bit they put foam in the place where my head would smash oh yeah so I felt about that yeah um they didn't they were going to cut out the wheel arches so we could turn more but they didn't I'm glad they I actually think that worked in our favor in it did um and they were actually slagging it off when it went up on towards stage they were speaking about it on Mike and they were like they can't turn properly they can't see over it and I was thinking oh no they're slagging off our thing they were talking about our buckets on the back and stuff I don't know if they were slagging off the buckets or just speaking about I just heard bucket like they're talking about ours oh my god um but it actually worked in favor and then there was screens up showing the first runs and it took a while it like an hour or two after we got there till the first run um but did you see the Sheep one no I didn't see any of the big ones but that's a bad one there was a sheep we I was watching a sheep go down um it was just before you did your stunt I think and it got all the way to the end and then at full speed flipped over onto their necks and I think it was one of them that broke their collarbone and it looked awful and after seeing that me and pieace was stood together we were like I we genuinely don't want to go down after seeing that he was [ __ ] it I was [ __ ] it um and then not only that I think other people must have like been bruised or whatever but the other big one that we heard about is we when we got to the start line we were there waiting for like 10 minutes and it was cuz the person who went down before us got knocked out so that's crazy yeah which I didn't see I don't think we'll ever see any footage of that but I don't know what vehicle it was or anything I just heard that they got knocked out that's why we were up there for ages yeah I mean it was going down insanely fast yeah it look I mean it looks quick on camera but it doesn't look nearly as quick as it feels yeah when you're in that thing oh my goodness and you can barely see in front of you you're bouncing all over the place you're hitting these jumps there are bits where there's foam that like splashes you in the face you have a few seconds of blindness yeah it's mental it it to best describe it definitely feels faster than sitting in a car at 60 MPH I'd say faster than it feels sitting in a car going 100 yeah cuz you're so exposed to we've never gone 100 I've been on the auto bar in Germany okay fair um but yeah you're exposed so it just feels so quick but we were quick insanely Qui insanely quick I think everyone we were the first of the creators to go up everyone thought we were going to just crash yeah or just be crap and slow there was so many comments so many DMs I got afterward was like [ __ ] fair enough before we even went down though before we get cuz we we will react we'll show you us going down yeah but I think we should tell them actually maybe should we hit play and then we'll pause at certain bits to be like explainer yeah I'll tell you what it plays it goes all the way through and then they do it in slow-mo afterwards we can on the slow-mo we'll do some explanation okay here we go batch and Arthur we had the podcast sticker oh it was such a good sticker on the side which was really cool and they zoomed in out loads for the YouTube video which is great yeah was all over the stream which was ideal although you cannot see podcast there until someone shads over it yeah someone's just shattering we were stood up there for ages genuinely yeah because someone had just been knocked out looking down this hill that was just so steep it's not funny but look at that thing that's so impressive it's so well built I can't believe it and I'm I'm gutted because I actually wanted to say to the we had a little bit of help from the Red Bull Engineers yeah I wanted to say thank you to them more just be like what did you see that that was really good yeah if anyone knows anything by any chance please pass on our thanks because yeah they they helped us hopefully they watched it and saw a great deal uh but we did do a lot I mean we did spend two full days building this thing and printing it up and stuff so yeah which you'll obviously see in the Vlog I'll talk about I'll talk about something later cuz there's um this was posted to Tik Tok and there's some funny comments on there really basically yeah basically calling us desk dwellers what so this is our performance so this performance we didn't know we no was supposed to do we we were told to choose a piece of music so we chose something like Space Odyssey style but we had no idea that meant we had to perform yeah and like like she's saying like there are points for performance and we knew about 10 minutes beforehand that this 30 second period of Music we'd have to Performance so we were like let's just do something simple gum shields in the mouth bow and get in and they were harsh they gave us a three but that also also counts to the way the vehicle looks so I think three is Harsh yeah but here we go performance score 22 poor but this is when we started racking up speed the steering was really weird as well cuz it changed as we got quicker and we were just bouncing as we went down like we'd hit a ramp and oh my goodness like almost front flipped that around we Whi around the corner and our our genuine one of our wings like clipped a ha Bell and just sliced through it that one sliced through the hay Bell I was thinking as we came down I swear I would have hit that side had I not hit that side and then nailed the braking and you said you could smell burnt rubber when you were breaking on that thing cuz I was like tickling the brakes like before a jump every now and then I do one all as we approached the chicane I pulled it yeah um but they said as we were going down in the commentary like yeah oh this feels fast usually you're hitting like low 20s here and it comes up on the side and we're hitting 30 km an hour yeah we were going and we were oh my goodness I'm glad you didn't break touch the break though we didn't need it yeah yeah I mean you did a did a little bit but I mean the others obviously touched it a lot more yeah I basically kept us at a speed where I was like this is very close to the line of like where we can make this corner at the speed because at the end of the day as a race and I was like we don't want to get up at the end and just be like oh like a couple of the soite boxes made it halfway down and just like stopped completely yeah and they were like having to like like I don't know like Shake It Forward it's so awkward like we did speak and we did say we'd actually rather crash going pretty quick than come to a grinding hle because it's just not good material yeah like we did it for Content wants to see that it's for a video we know representing creators at half time yeah so many people watching we've got a space shuttle that is designed at a velocity of 17,000 500 mph yeah so we were like you know hitting to be honest when they gave us those uh cuz we asked for special helmets that covered the face yeah when they gave me that I felt invincible and I thought oh [ __ ] it and we had gum Shields that we like ped poured into boiling water molded them before and molded them so we we felt pretty safe yeah I mean but still at 30 we weren but I don't have miles hour or kilm an hour I think it was mph I actually do really yeah but whatever it is at 30 like genuinely like just whacking your head against something solid is well I mean someone did get knocked out and broke it was terrifying yeah they they then do a slow-mo okay let's watch the slow-mo and we can break down exactly because I was thinking there was a point in the chicane when we really Whi round I was thinking why did that happen it was because the back right wheel wasn't on the ground when we were coming up to the chicane so when it touched the the ground it turned us into a corner so I was like [ __ ] and I had to spin it around one way and then back around the other way oh that's why we had that major wobble yeah and you can see it it's like it's cuz one of the wheels wasn't on the ground okay let's let's watch and like in the first one we'll try and go for the audio listeners kind of describe what we're seeing yeah so the first jump yeah we it was a heavy a heavy bit of Kit as well we definitely had one of the heavier ones it and it was like so we got through here the back that wheel wasn't on the ground so like had to correct it well the chicane of just having to go really quick left and then really quick right after yeah and then this pit we hit a bunch of stairs and bch basically grinds on the right hand of them it's cuz afterwards we had to be on the right hand side so I was thinking I can't turn directly after I'm going to have to turn on the ramp like the CL the the course is split in two with like steps on the left and straight on the right and we go down the steps but like half dangling off yeah you have a choice whether to do jumps or not obviously we were going to do the jumps cuz you get docked time um no they add time on if you go round cuz it's a bit unfair yeah but we you were just like let's head it yeah and after the first jump it it looks like we really jump around I don't know about you but in it it didn't feel that bad I I think I'm the exact opposite cuz I was going flying and my bum still Hur May was our positioning or cuz I was holding on to this when yeah I had nothing to hold on to I was just sat on a blue seat I re yeah I reckon that's what it was cuz it kept me like sort of planted you fix and you're in the center so with us like when when you go off the Jump the nose sort of goes down yeah it did and then the back col kicks up into the air and then slams down and because I'm at the back you really got you know I've got a lot further to fall and I just got whacked and my butt like when I sit on the sofa like no I can feel it bruised on I was actually un unscared I was absolutely fine yeah God it was um after that first jump though I got a lot more confidence in the run I was thinking oh that was fine I can we can do all the [ __ ] jumps yeah I just got full speed no I rate it I'm so glad you just sent it cuz and you I mean you didn't have a choice sending it yeah you just you na yeah exactly you could SL down but uh I they miked us did they mic you up CU they miked me up but I said nothing the whole run yeah why would you you couldn't because the thing is I was so focused I think it's because we went so quick because there's a Red Bull posted a video on their Tik Tok page where because they miked up chip and freezy and um it's off chip speaking to freezy and he's like on the brakes off the brakes okay we're going to go around this now and I think it's CU they were using the brakes and communicating about the brakes that they had stuff to say but because we were just you told me before you weren't going to touch the brake so I thought okay he's really not there's no point saying anything and you know whether it's a Brak or not so I was just thinking I'm just going to drive I was literally only thinking like I'm only going to slow us down if I feel like at this speed we either can't hit that jump properly or can't go around the corner and I was just tickling it and it was only at the end like I was like I've got to wait until we cross the finish line before I can break and I just Ram it and because it was a friction break it's like literally a metal bar that just pulls down onto both of the rear wheels it just starts smelling like burning rubber actually nailed that was so good though cuz we literally landed after that last jump we landed and I was like [ __ ] the Finish is right there and all I could hear was I just knew he pulled that thing so hard we came around the corner and didn't touch a single thing because he broke just in time yeah and the thing was untouched like the they said they it could get sent back to one of us so I send it to my house um I got I didn't tell you this yet I got a DM from someone saying I'm just about to watch your soap box get destroyed what no it's been graveyard we took it to a graveyard but we put it to one side no they told us we could have it uh yeah oh the guy might be lying I I pray he is cuz that's so harsh but I saw it in the DM request I was like [ __ ] surely not we should M message Adam but I think a big part of the reason we couldn't speak or do much else is because we weren't so full s we did that in 36 seconds chip and freezy were the second fastest in our group I think and they were 44 seconds yeah so we were we were literally seven or eight seconds I mean I don't exactly know what their milliseconds were but we were seven or eight seconds faster than them and I mean the difference like you watch them go down and they're sort of doing a decent speed but I thought them being go- karters you know they've got their Senor frogs they race every year yeah I was like they're going to bomb it too yeah but they kind of just played it relatively safe I mean good time time but like I do think we we absolutely Center and we had this guy come up to us at the end like should you say yeah say and this guy comes up to us and go don't like freak out now or anything um but we're checking because we genuinely think this was one of the fastest of all time yeah like fastest soap boxes ever he thought we hit the world record run right there and then and they cuz they had to check them by the millisecond yeah and we were a fraction of a second off being the fastest ever 1 18 of a second something something ridiculous like that and uh so I think we were either the second or the third fastest of all time yeah there were rumors at the end of the day and I don't know whether it was Chip just winding us up being like the last car of the day was slightly faster yeah they they yeah they said something like the last car of the day actually broke the world record so if that is true we're the third fastest of all time if not we are the second fastest of all time to go down that track and we rather the second of the first fastest of this year's event which is just just the coolest thing ever like we to be fair have also like we couldn't have picked a design that was Better Built For Speed I mean it's so people were saying this is this is aerodynamic and I was thinking it is but I don't think it's going to make that much of a difference in this yeah scenario and whether it did or not or whether it was just the fact that you didn't break much yeah I think that was it it was quite heavy it was heavy as well you had one of the heavy ones so at the start you can tell this was one of the things we were saying we should have got two people cuz we only got Jake to shove us at the start yeah and when when you start off just going down the ramp it took us a while to pick up speed if we had sort of been shoved and started at a really good pace and kept it at that pace I genely think we could have built the record but I'm I want to do it again same that's why I wanted to keep that cuz we could have just modified that and send it down we know that's a winning formula yeah make it into a submarine or something yeah exactly that thing works but Red Bull like they they we had such a great time with them they did so much for us and we were so grateful and we were speaking see nothing guaranteed and stuff um but they were saying there's a potential for us to come back and maybe do the one that you know you launch off a ramp and you're like 10 m up whatever and you've got to Glide over water as far as possible there and there are loads of other sort of like cool Red Bull events and stuff to do so um yeah I think we make this a thing if we can do just more of this stuff yeah I loved it it was genuinely one of the best things I've ever done I think yeah and there's a the the the only annoying thing is there's so much footage it's going to take a while to get the video together because Red Bull have Clips we have clips they've sent us a hard driver clipse I've got stuff on my phone B has stuff on his phone Jake has stuff on his phone so we'll gather it all together but when the video comes out I think it'll be such a good one because so good the whole experience was just the coolest thing ever and we couldn't be more grateful to Red Bull for that the perfect run at the end we just ended it so perfectly the whole experience I think yeah it couldn't have gone better afterwards I so cool yeah I couldn't get the helmet off though we got to the very end I could not figure out how to unclip the helmet so I did the interview with a helmet on yeah they could not hear thing as well you hear me go oh the atmosphere was electric and I know he said the electric thing and then we um yeah we Kenny from South Park hanging out with us we to I finally I got someone to take my helmet off we drove the soap box down to the graveyard thing but they said they weren't going to break it we put it to one side it might be broken and then we had to run up the hill because we had to get on the live stream to do an interview straight afterwards yeah and oh my God you realize how far we came down Running Up That thing that it was 400 to 500 M back up a relatively Steep Hill on a very hot day we were exhausted from the day before and uh being out the night before and having the race and all that kind of stuff and in boiler suits and it was a hot day boiling I got so sweaty at the top we got to the top and we were like that was just a thoroughly unenjoyable experience but it was cool cuz there I heard I don't I think I told you at the time I heard a kid as we ran past he was like oh my God racers felt like an F1 driver in that moment yeah that really went straight to my head yeah I bet we felt a lot cooler than we probably looked just running around in boiler suits and I'm my Red Bull cap on we had shades on surprised he hasn't got that red bull cap on today by the way that thing you're going to have to peel that off his dead body I've been wearing it so much lady just cuz I I love it it's good for green screen stuff that is the one thing I I might start wearing cuts out the wispy hair yeah it cuts out the wispy hair which kind of ruin the illusion I've got that real issue whereas when you wear a cap it's like a smooth round thing and the green screen just looks much better I see my editors have all been like wear a cap as often as possible oh so they even so they tell you what to do huh you're not Char they do interesting well I keep my editors locked away and then I give them footage and they're like please I want to see my family please share an editor now no King yeah we do shout out king great honestly fantastic worker his work ethic he sent me a video and like couple hours later he was like actually here's a V2 I watched it back and I I could see some improvements I was like kind of mentality and he's not been editing for long either yeah so he's I think all selft talk cow's amazing as well they're both just great honestly yeah people listening a fascinated here about how much we love our tives yeah let's get back to the Red Bull so box race so then we did our interview at the very top which is when cuz we went down first so we were Then followed by all the other creators who did the race um we didn't really get to see them at the time cuz we were running up the the bloody Hill but um we got to the top they all slowly joined us did their interview and then it got revealed the scores so there were different categories we were like ranked on or scored on the first being performance and I I'm pretty sure the style of the cart comes into that as well yeah and so we what did we get like what was it 20 22 it was really bad 40 terrible score we got like a seven a six a three and a five something like that whoever gave us a three what's wrong with you huh they were grumpy though cuz I think chip and frezy got something like 39 and the guy that person gave them a nine apparently they were really mean scoring the whole time that's crazy but chip and fzy knew about the performance thing which we I know how they knew about that we had no idea chip and freezy raced as a box of 20 chicken McNuggets yeah and they brought like homemade barbecue sauce and just on each other yeah pry just poured it all over them it was good like as performances go that's like the best thing you can do yeah so they got a really great score like almost perfect just one guy dropped a mark on it um 39 out 40 but I feel like I feel like giving us a three was really harsh I know our performance wasn't great but the music was very fitting yeah and maybe we should have pretended we were on the moon with our jumping or something like walking like that he just had such a cool carard we had so little time to think about it yeah I feel like it was harsh though look at our car that was really cool yeah maybe we were also ranked harshly because we were the first creators to go down maybe maybe we would have got a better score if we were towards the end I don't know yeah maybe but um yeah we did really bad on that and then you get obviously score for your speed in finishing the race yeah which we smashed Everyone by like four four seconds or something or seven or eight yeah like seven or eight seconds Quicks first to second and the second fastest and I think Becky and pieace got a dnf finish either they hit a minute or they stopped completely yeah cuz they went over one of the jumps and then front end broke so the wheel wasn't really like or the front was touching the floor dragging across the floor so they just I felt bad for them they just ped all across but at least they got down in one piece that's the they were just in a pint glass yeah it was really cool and they had a they had a cool performance Becky poured pint on um pie which was funny um con and Jack had a cool performance they just had some Swagger about it like yeah it was cool oh yeah we got picked on the performance but they did struggle getting into the vehicle did they yeah CU it's really hard and narrow to get in um they got they everyone got all the way to the end by the way Colin Jack fell over at the end there thing just went on its side they they chose thinner Wheels I didn't think they were going to make it that far yeah they also had a really high center of gravity cuz their car was thin and quite tall yeah like if you looked at their car it looked like it wanted to fall over it was a bit like chitty chitty bang bang but like elongated yeah so they did really well to and they were drifting it as well it was drifting so they did really well to get to the bottom um but yeah we were like seven seconds quicker than seven or eight seconds quicker than the second fastest which was it chip and freezy or was it Con I think it might have been no chip and frezy was Heavy wasn't it to be fair so that would move um and then there was People's Choice which we said we won 49% and was those were those those three so I think the reason so we ended up coming third we came third out of the four I just think it wasn't like cuz we won two out of three categories you'd think we'd win but I think they gave they were sort of like weighted yeah so because we were so low on the performance us being ahead on the other two bits didn't pull us up enough I think it's really harsh I think it doesn't matter at all by the way I don't I don't care but I do think it's harsh that performance is weighted so heavily in comparison to like speed has got to be the most important thing yeah like it's a race I know that's that's the way we were looking at it that's because it's a race come on we were focus on the race as aspect obviously soap boxes isn't Formula 1 is supposed to be like a bit of fun cretive stuff which you do get um but yeah hard winning two out of three categories and winning the race comfortably well it was more like at in the moment when they were revealing who won out of us four I was thinking in my head oh we've definitely won yeah after winning we got like 50% of the votes for People's Choice so it was a landslide Victory they said and a landslide Victory on the speed so I was thinking we have smashed those two things so surely we've gained loads of points for that yeah and we came third I was like I'm actually quite shocked by that I in my head I was thinking oh my God we've won yeah but um no it was so means anything like there's I don't there's nothing for it yeah I was just surprised but genuinely so it was so good yeah it was it was definitely definitely one of the best things I've ever done I was so glad that we did it I can't wait for the proper video to come out and have it all like a documentary s of documented archive just being like Oh I can look back at that video that was a banger yeah oh it was it was really good um then we stuck around and watched some public racing um and yeah there was it was it was nice there was a nice like area where you could get food and stuff and the worms showed up oh yeah lots of the patreon supporters a couple of N and non patreon people showed up lots of podcast people I'm guessing everyone there was podcast listeners because I didn't really put it on any platform no I think it it was all podcast we spoken about on the on on the podcast and in the patreon group chat quite a lot yeah and that was pretty much it so thank you well regardless if it's yeah thank you guys for coming along cuz it was so nice speaking to everyone great really great to have your support um yeah and yeah you guys were there for most of the day just like stood by our um what do you call it Soap Box stood by our Soap Box we were coming over when we could to say hi and stuff yeah everyone got photos we oh my goodness quite a lot of people wanted us to draw tattoos for them oh dear and we are not artistic no we're close yeah I'm a letter away but I not draw sa in my life and I was like the only thing I could think of was the rocket emoji yeah that was pretty good to be fair I was trying to draw them but getting the three little things at the bottom and the fire I was like I was like show this to your artist and they'll get what I'm trying to draw yeah they'll understand I mean I just ended up drawing flowers CU it's the easiest thing to draw it's got nothing to do with me a lot of art what just happened you just got bored of your own conversation I just yawned I was hoping you take it off me really quickly cuz I yawned no someone asked for a cameo once where they were like can you draw something for us to do a tattoo and I did a a ringed planet oh nice and oh my goodness trying to get cuz obviously if you put the circle there first the ring that goes in front like cuts through lines and it looks crap so you've kind of got to start with the ring but obviously just as the ring curves back around you have to stop and then you have to imagine where the sphere is going to be and oh my goodness I burnt through about half this notebook trying to get one that just looks semi-reasonable so whoever invented Saturn fair enough yeah exactly that must have been difficult and Uranus yep that's also ringed yeah um many too many rings yeah I've got a ring do you oh yeah and that weekend batch proposed to me so I said yes no I'm talking about my ass what anyway um it was it was a different kind of proposition to the one you were thinking of yours is way cuter than mine and I said no oh hell no I just got that that's disgusting cuz I was like on Saturday night we were just chilling we were like go we're exhausted yeah and I was like do you want to just stay around and Bach was like yeah so we played fornite and watch scary movies yeah he took me to get sushi again yeah we went to sticks and Sushi again but I was like I kind of want to make more videos but we were just so tired yeah I it was too late you just what you made me watch horror stuff we we watched a bunch of scary videos on YouTube like real ghost sightings and short horror movies and I was like I've wanted to do videos like that with you ages I was like then was the perfect time but our energy was just shock yeah we'll do it we'll definitely do it another time though CU people just love that love that horror game yeah is entertaining to watch other people get scared people don't want to watch you have fun they want to watch you cringe and be scared people enjoyed us having fun of Minecraft true but you were scared of I died like five six times I'm not very good clearly everyone's making fun of me did I die once I didn't I don't think no but your spirit died at one point hell no my spirit my spirit was always my spirit were through the roof um when I was getting attacked by Leona Lewis and I was hiding in the house turns out Leona Lewis can't go in water so I should have just gone in water I saw that comment yeah thanks for that thanks for the comment I'm actually going to use that logic and I I already want to film episode three right now do you yeah it was so fun we'll do it this week actually it's so fun like I enjoy playing it we're just loading up M fil although he needs a he needs a setup can we can we tell this boy to put some money towards a proper setup he plays on his PlayStation so we have to play Bedrock Edition so I can't use my nice shaders that make the waters and everything look clean and all the like graphics and stuff you know the like it's T's water we're keeping it the graphics upgrades are insane look just just a bit enjoy a humble bit of like Minecraft where it's nostalgic not everything has to be polished yeah okay fine um but no it was it was really good fun and it is it is I do love that we can just do that kind of stuff and just play a game and it would be fun yeah um we can just like high five when we want yeah anyway um back to let's go back in time to um the end of the race he wet himself no he didn't he didn't no he didn't but um I just want to make sure that we covered everything no because we didn't speak about um the stunt the stunts oh yeah you should tell them about the stunt they they just flung on you they didn't tell you until yeah they didn't tell me about this before and they made me sign my rights away yeah and it it was they had already Ked off the live stream so you just had to do it yeah um we basically batch got nice one he got pulled aside and they were like oh is the driver we're testing your reflexes yeah and what did they do they so she dropped a ruler and you just had to grab the ruler um as soon as she dropped it and just see how many centimeters you let drop to judge your reaction time I didn't do I think I came second actually nice but on the practice I failed uh so I was like oh that was nice and peaceful and fun I wonder what mine's going to be and they get me and they they I put this heart monitor on and I was like what they put this heart monitor on me put me in the middle of this cage and this dude called like Douglas or something comes up in this massive dirt bike and just goes like I'll lie down in the middle and I was like I know exactly where this is going got R to me and Jack just start planking and he's sort of in this giant he giant of a man I swear he's like 6'4 in this massive dirt bike and he's sort of there like on one wheel bouncing the like wheel like an inch from my head and I'm like if he just if anything misjudges he crushes my skull yeah like we we we lose one of the Bright Young talents of this generation and you as well wait what do you mean well they'd get Jack and you oh yeah yeah good old Jack and then then he was doing like wheelies around your head like just driving past full speed past his head yeah it was giving me the E actually see lie down there insane and I was just like well I'm playing it cool cuz that's like the name of the game it'd be cringe if I got up and I mean they they even said that if you get up you're at risk of just getting your head whacked cuz he's like an inch within your head so if you move it until you die yeah um and for like a minute he just did this and bounced around and yeah you were down there for a hot minute yeah we were there for ages just getting driven around I thought oh this is just getting this is just cruel now yeah I mean the poor boy is just lying there with a boner by the way uh because he gets that happens when he gets scared just why you think I keep getting you for horror games oh no i h on a Bo so he's just doing circling circling circling around Arthur on the floor it just I just felt a bit sorry for him in the end yeah uh so that was terrifying but good F night you know I'm up for anything I did realized the other day I'm just one of his friends who's just up for thing yeah you are actually someone could be like hey we're going to sit inside and watch movies tonight I be like fine or they can be like come on man we're robbing a bank I'm like cool they'll be like come on going glamping for the weekend do you is that real though if I said or okay let's go and watch the Euros tonight fine let's do it England England this is the last night of the group stage and all of a sudden the mood is really dead because we're just through now we've not played well either it's been pathetic there I said it and Harry Kane when you finally come on this podcast I've got some strong words to have with you mine mine Reserve is Gareth Southgate and not bringing BR and not playing kobby Mayu okay sorry Harry Kane actually way he's playing phenomenally to be not as if we're missing him but I'm mad at you Southgate yeah Italy um not playing too bad oh my goodness you're Italian did you watch the game last night and they scored the 90th plus eight to go through 98th minute it was the draw against Croatia oh that was heartbreaking poor the thing is they probably would have gone through anyway as one of the people third but um it's nice to confirm it you know yeah those moments of elation just so hard I think Italy just like a decent Striker anyway we won't bore you with football because a lot of people probably don't care about football yeah um but yeah I mean I'm getting into F1 now yes you are you watch drive to survive right yeah I've been watching drive to surv I need to get on that I really want to watch that um and hence why the Red Bull so box race I was really in I was really in my element Because You Loved does it make you love Red Bull as well the driver to survive does it follow a particular team it follows the mall and to be honest I haven't really got like a team I really um it's not like I really want to see this team win it's more people that you care about it's good to see Red Bull doing well but um I like Lando do you yeah you're Lando Norris enjoyer I'm a Lando enjoyer I like them all to be fair from what I've seen I like I get I like Char all oh cuz he kind he kind of looks like Charles mclair uh yeah I get uh Lando Norris a lot people always say like L nor I'm not sure about that boy and uh obviously like V stappen red the Red Bull goat what batch V stappen high five what does that even mean batch for steppen me batch for steppen batch for steppen me instead of Max for Sten batch for Sten it's one of the only times that batch really goes into anything batch for Sten what do people nickname you at school get tuna boy cuz I've brought in tuna fish boy uh right I was going duckling I was going for more names like name related like okay because I was oh name related I was I was called nothing I was just called Arthur I don't know why I said it like that I was called Nothing me yeah had no friends at school no I didn't really people would say ice as a joke ice yeah I just I didn't like not having a cool nickname name my sister one of my sisters calls me Izzy that's really cringe and feminine yo she watches these which is fine yo she watches these apologize down the lens right now I apologize nothing cuz it is it was true it was my truly held opinion and you should never apologize for being yourself sometimes she calls me Elizabeth as well what and I don't really know where she got that from she started that was a good what what yeah she watches it where she works as she was working she'll have it on Gizzy by the way I didn't get cancelled for what Sunday came out where I waterboarded Chris I haven't watched that and I was seriously worried I was genuinely like I thought you know just some people on the internet can be real yeah cuz they might be like oh you're making fun of water boarding people actually die from water boarding that's not what I exactly what I meant oh because okay you can't waterboard Chris because he doesn't like water and some people have been drowned before no okay of course because because you shouldn't do water boarding because it's like saying this is something you should it's really on impressionable fans and they'll be like okay I'm going to water board my mom tonight right maybe maybe that was like oh you shouldn't do that on to an impression I'm going to cancel you right now in that case um but no I I I just thought people would be like oh that was so mean of him they're not friends like just you know when you don't really know I mean obviously anyone who's seen Chris and videos knows how much abuse he puts me through I mean that guy abuse shs down on my neck like there's no tomorrow he's just I I'll just be chilling mid shootting he'll just go on my traps I mean granted they're juicy like they're nice muscular defined um have you ever thought you might just be a vampire I don't know hiding in plain sight you know you've got two Pierce marks right there you getting sucked by you've got really garlicky breath so I don't think I could be a a vampire cuz otherwise let's not start rumors like that otherwise I'd run there's not start rumors like that yeah my breath smells like daisies rainbows fairy tales I'm always chewing gum you are always chewing gum you're a real gum chewer yeah it Bo it boosts your confidence it's like putting a pair of sunglasses on I'm glad you don't do it on the podcast that would be the most annoying thing to listen to I have done it before but I just tuck it into my teeth like snz you don't mean that it's gum you don't mean that it's gum it's just weird you don't mean that it's gum gum started freaking out you know we were speaking about eggs the other day when you you're Midway through eating heads and you're like wait up yeah that's a period something ain't right that's a menstrual cycle raor and you're like yeah well that weirdly makes me like it more it's more than I knew you were a feminist me too come on yeah um we do like to bring awareness to the fact that women exist and have Cycles cuz I I I mentioned menstrual cycles all the time and I in one of my YouTube videos I was like I've got to stop saying menstrual cycles drop a comment if you think I should stop saying menual cycle everyone's like no and someone's like no it actually feels kind of feminist in a weird way cuz you're bringing light to the fact of cuz not everyone knows that women have I think everyone knows women have periods I found out 3 days ago watching your video you thought they had penis what I just thought they merely existed they merely exist in a in a realm Between Heaven and Hell where somewhere I love doesn't exist what the hell is this guy talking about women only exist in heaven women are heaven on Earth in my opinion how does that song Go heaven heaven for what it's worth women are heaven on Earth women are heaven on Earth brother in Christ you don't know what you're talking about right now I feel like we're getting on to Serious brain rot have you got anything else this is a rare batch prepared actually been praying preparing a lot um all of the episodes lately we've actually yeah hence why the quality's increased um no you just you do stuff in a different way I like like reading and talking reading well next episode's prepared by by Arthur and we'll be filming this directly after this one yeah we're doing complet transparency cuz batch is way on holiday and I'm going to be honest because I'm not I've not brought a spare pair of clothes anyway yeah me neither I don't want to hear no comments like why is he wearing that shirt again well they should be comenting CU alth this on an episode before quite frankly Arthur is either can I just say by the way I predicted what you were going to be wearing on the Red Bull meal I said Arthur will turn up in Black corduroy shorts um and a cream beige top shirt either worn as an overshirt with a white t-shirt underneath or just a shirt that's exactly what you were that's true I mean I have two other pairs of shorts I had a black like pair that were like had textured but the waistband thing snapped hard to find a good pair of shorts and then I had a nice like cream beige pair yeah um but they were just like I don't know linen and just ended up being a bit too and take it from a guy a sleepover with him he doesn't take them off he showers in them he goes me to take them off he was like take them off take them off take them off and I was like leave me alone yeah I was like please wash please wash you were just misreading me I wasn't saying take them off I was like please wash please wash anyway I I got the um I went into the patreon chat o uh little plug if you want to join the patreon go ahead there's a chat you get early access to episodes they get uploaded all the time and Bullies me in it yeah I do speak in there a fair amount um and I said to them we're filming two pods today can you guys reply to this message with any questions you have about the Red Bull Soapbox race we're going to be doing a whole episode on it uh because I thought there might be you know they might want to know more information on how it was built or how we were feeling and stuff and we could just give us some insight to that we've just explained the day how cool it was blah blah blah but they want to know the BTS let's see how insightful their questions can be okay did you hurt your nose that's [ __ ] rude no I didn't that obviously pointed at you no I didn't to be fair I did we had said in an episode prior that there was no foam and we are going to smash our faces in they put foam in we had good helmets on but we didn't actually crash so yeah we didn't crash so although his coxic bone is in pain yeah my coxics I'm absolutely fine because I'm not weak that's your tailbone um may ask for us highly evolved Apes that was from Brooke by the way I'll say names shout outs May says how SL why did you decide to build a rocket why I guess cuz it's very on brand for us have a look at our mugs yep yeah I mean we're just we're were're a Spacey themed podcast for no apparent reason we genely I'm sure we said in the earlier episodes we had no plans to be themed and bats just randomly one day went let's just make it space themed I just think it's cool yeah me I just think we both think it's cool we do we just need a cool set I think most of the things we do is because we think oh that's cool like the Soap Box we thought oh it'd be cool if we did a a ship or a ufi yeah just cuz it just cuz it's funny someone actually messaged in for the next one I've got like the submissions from the normal submissions page which everyone can enter just go to our any of our socials at Bach and arur and in the link there's like a a link tree and one of them is the submissions form and they were like what is your target audience because I can't really figure it out and I'm studying media at the moment target audience is such a big thing and I was like we don't have one we just come on talk about whatever we find interesting yeah and just hope that some people agree yeah and the people who do listen are actually very um diverse yeah and intelligent and cool and good looking and all this yeah um so yeah no um yeah and it's weird because we're not sitting there going oh let's talk about this to appeal to this audience which I think is I mean somehow it works so thank you guys for tuning into thanks cuz I think if you analyzed it in like a media class and it was like oh one minute you're doing brain rot meme references and the next you're talking about s men and then the next we're talking about Greek philosophy and the next one like Roman Parables and then religion they'd be like well someone's going to listen to the one episode like it and then not like the rest yeah but for some reason people just like listening to it all really I think we just decided that we're just going to do what we want like yeah whatever we enjoy yeah like whatever we enjoy and whatever we F feel like talking about we're just going to do it because if you want to enjoy something you've like if you want this if we want this podcast to continue we've got to enjoy it and if we're looking at it tactically like Oh Let's do an episode on this so we can boost our audience in this demographic it will start to feel like a like a real job well like you know I've heard from other people that do podcasts that their producers will be like today you're having this guest on and they're like well I've never watched the show they're on or Never follow them don't care about the story but I've got to do it's nice that we kind of have a just able to just go oh whatever and I do think the stuff we talk about is interesting broadly like if you're someone who like whenever we meet or speak to anyone who watches the podcast they're always like oh I love like these types of interesting discussions I feel like if you have a generally curious mind yeah like if if people who are listening to this and enjoy it are going to be similar to us in that respect and they you know even if they don't have a an interest in any of the particular like they might be like oh I love hearing about religion I'm a curious person but they don't care about Greek philosophy yeah or anything when we speak about the ship of thesis they're still like oh it's an interesting thought like it's an interesting thought so if you're one of those types of people like us then all that kind of stuff is interesting I guess thus our our demographic is people who just have similar interests to us yeah or like have a similar outlook on life or yeah that's the thing it's not even like it's just it's the broad value of curiosity I think who just like they like to laugh they like a bit of Comedy cuz we even get people who disagree with us and they're like oh I'm religious I completely disagree with this all but it was so interesting to listen to and so they're not listening because we're speaking about things that they find um they agree with or they enjoy you know but they're going like oh like I like the way these topics are approached or the way this is discussed and yeah so yeah hopefully we'll try and keep that up um hey no way we're going to brain Rock 24/7 after here or no anyway um Connie asked what was your top speed we don't actually know but what did you think it was 30 well when we passed we passed the speed gate at what will be one of the fastest points and that was 30 okay mil K yeah km pH um Leia says do you think you were going to make it to the Finish Line did you think you were going to make it to the Finish Line I genuinely um did not think we were going to make it past the chicane to be honest yeah cuz I didn't realize the course was as wide as it was however the as narrow as it was you mean actually yeah yes and no the thing is it's like driving a car when you're in a car it looks like you're you're bigger than the road but actually you can fit in much smaller of a gap than you expect yourself to be able to and so when you're actually in the soap box when we were doing the chicane in my head I thought we're going to catch one of the hay bals and go flying but actually although it was actually pretty close watching it back it felt like I had enough room to get round and stuff well two hay bals we did fully slic through well yeah if the wings were like flat fronted we would have we could have just spun out flown but because the wings were just like yeah we the first one and then the second one we through that yeah um but in no I didn't think we were going to make it down in one piece to be honest I thought either we'd get to the end and there' be damage or we'd fall over at the end or we just wouldn't make it to the end cuz it's not a like it more often than not you don't make it to the end yeah so I thought statistically I didn't I didn't think we were going to make it to the end so I was surprised were you or not it's so funny because at the start you're like I really don't know but be when you're going down it's so fast and you've got to think a lot like yeah I was just constantly thinking like just monitoring whether we were going too fast or not to be like bring the speed down ever so slightly and it's everything's happening so fast you don't have time to think oh are we going to make it like any hypotheticals it's just uh pull the break break on break off break off oh my goodness are we going to make this corner are we going to too fast at how are we doing like all this kind of stuff's rushing through your head I didn't even think about it I was no so yeah I had no thoughts in my head either I think we were just on reflex at that point yeah because every yeah like Arthur said everything's coming at you so quick like before the chane I thought I had enough time to put my hand up and wave and I was like [ __ ] no I don't yeah so that's when I came back onto the wheel and did that so we really don't have much time in that thing um then Phoenix asks what was the hardest and easiest part of the creative process oh hard po was coming up with an idea for what we wanted to do as the car because we took ages like they were asking us for the design for so long and we were like we really don't know it is hard when you can do literally anything it's like the classic situation where you've got too much Choice yeah so you can't make a decision and neither necessarily creative creative types yeah so we and also it's it's difficult as well when there's two people because obviously if one person wants to do something we we agreed yeah we we didn't have any friction on what we wanted to do we because we both didn't really have an idea but you've got to make sure that what one person comes up with the other person's happy to do um but I think from the go we just suggested either a space shuttle or UFO we were both happy with those two ideas and then we had a look at some pictures and we thought okay let's go for a space sh that was it yeah so I think that um it was hard in the beginning but to to be honest the decision process was pretty easy for us in the end I do think the hardest part although that was hard I think what was harder for us was probably um building the chassis don't you think it was harder than the woodwork yeah that's probably true cuz we didn't have any engineer assistance with the underly car yeah the actual chassis itself we just had bits like we didn't have instructions for half of it we were in in a big Warehouse with just a bunch of nuts bolts rods	I just think it's so much funnier when you do it yourself and go to I do think so but this is going to get worn down and eventually there's going to be a Hole uh oh audio listeners don't know what I'm doing I I just I pretend there's a soundboard and I just push the sof and make my I do it as well I do it in real life I'll be speaking to people when I'm BR but it doesn't make his much sense in real life just in a conversation he's just air poking stuff as he goes brh you know what's so funny as well I showed batch this someone one of you guys one of our listeners because cuz I you do it quite a lot but I do it all the time at you do the what yeah what that thing someone did a Tik Tok called whatting people in public so she goes into this petrol station goes to pay she goes like how much is that and he goes like Oh 1350 and she just goes what loud so loud just yells it in this man's face and everyone was like bad bad you guys have to recreate this it was so funny yeah and then Arthur was like we've got to do this we've got I don't know if I have the like what is it um social confidence to do that I'd be able to do it not yell	8	6	4	I just think it's so much funnier when you do it yourself and go to I do think so but this is going to get worn down and eventually there's going to be a Hole uh oh audio listeners don't know what I'm doing I I just I pretend there's a soundboard and I just push the sof and make my I do it as well I do it in real life I'll be speaking to people when I'm BR but it doesn't make his much sense in real life just in a conversation he's just air poking stuff as he goes brh you know what's so funny as well I showed batch this someone one of you guys one of our listeners because cuz I you do it quite a lot but I do it all the time at you do the what yeah what that thing someone did a Tik Tok called whatting people in public so she goes into this petrol station goes to pay she goes like how much is that and he goes like Oh 1350 and she just goes what loud so loud just yells it in this man's face and everyone was like bad bad you guys have to recreate this it was so funny yeah and then Arthur was like we've got to do this we've got I don't know if I have the like what is it um social confidence to do that I'd be able to do it not yell	we've got to do this we've got I don't know if I have the like what is it um social confidence to do that I'd be able to do it not yell	8,4,6	2,-1,3	8	4	6	2	-1	3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0g_xJvKEb8	4,108	-0g_xJvKEb8	2024-06-27 00:00:00	[Music] what's up everybody welcome back to episode 14 of the batch and Arthur podcast yay go thanks for joining everyone we have something to reveal yes we do I know you guys don't like it when Arthur has his mug on the couch because he tends to drop things don't you never dropped anything actually okay you dropped that th done remember that well you might have noticed I also have my mug on the sofa mhm wondering why who wants to know why should we tell them something to do with one like equals one Lara maybe something to do with that exactly you guys ready see what you reveal go way for audio listeners we have white mugs with our little cartoon characters on them that's right little will I didn't want to Cheers you and I've got my little handsome space guy come on yeah Lara surprised us with these this is a gift um mine shatterproof as well apparently oh it's not sh yeah he's got a plastic mug because we know what he's like I've sippy C the audio listeners actually little rubber cppy cup with two handles well actually when Arthur drinks from a mug show them how you do it I'll I'll commentate for this he uses two hands so he grabs on the like handle and then he grabs the other hand I drink everything with two hands especially tea and Pints yeah I don't really know what is there a reason for that or not safety I guess twice as balanced is that really if one arm stops working the other one's there as a fail safe well there you go that's why he does it guys so it makes sense all after all yeah um speaking of batch and Arthur this podcast design right here yeah this has been plasted on something recently what our rocket ship oh yeah guys we just got back from the Red Bull Soap Box race and we're alive 2024 we genuinely were not sure we were going to survive no I was but we did really scared we we turned up we got to see other people's cards um and there was basically two things going on so there's like a public race and then the Creator race was like a separate thing which is streamed on YouTube If you go on Red Bull's um YouTube channel and you go on under the live tab you can actually watch the full thing yeah we were like a half time race yeah it was Bas half time show yeah there was a few people who weren't happy about the Creator's uh racing cuz they thought we were mixed in with the public but it's like a whole separate thing like we can't win any awards over the public or anything like that yeah um but but we won the hearts of the public come on yeah we did win the hearts of the public there was a a couple of things that you were like rated on as creators and one of them was People's Choice and we got a landslide victory of 44% yeah it actually ended up on 49% 50% out of four teams we got 49 everyone rounds 49 thank you to everyone who voted for us we one of four teams but we're up against chip and freezy who have a big loving audience Becky and pieace who audience and then con from the siden huge loving audience and the guy who's our cameraman on the train video the siden that's right Jack was there as well went to with con they had cool out but uh we we got to Ali p uh that's my first time there you've been there before actually I think we should start the day before okay let's let's reel that [ __ ] back because we had another sleepover kind of yeah we did have another let's just say oh no we didn't really a hotel yeah we did not have a sleepover but what did we do where did we first meet we we met at the we met at the hotel at the hotel dropped our bags off Adam was there he's the Red Bull guy that was been looking after us and he took all the creators out to dinner yeah we to find the tell first yeah chopped a pint um both hands come on yeah then we got in a taxi we went to dinner we had a create a dinner um what did you eat pizza yeah I had a really really hot hot pizza but the thing I was enjoying the most was the football we had a massive screen in front of us oh yeah cuz France were playing Netherlands NE scen I felt kind of harsh cuz the the table was positioned in a way that only half of us could see the football and the other half were just watching us watching football yeah but no he they were watching a react video basically they got to see us live reacting In the Flesh um but the meal was really good the food was really good uh Jake was struggling Jake the guy works with um Arthur they both got the same Pizza he was struggling with the heat yeah he was [ __ ] [ __ ] struggling with the Pint as well got two pints steep was steaming no cuz he was so in denial Jake yeah Jake had a couple pints and he was gone we were like you are drunk he like I am not drunk and he was getting angry mad I'm not even drunk he's I haven't even done anything later he's doing karaoke so that's belting out karaoke with his phone to the to the mic with with voice note on my God it's so that was you singing those Tunes to someone yeah we yeah CU you've been to a place before should we say the name of the place or not I actually I don't remember it anyway okay we went to this place anyway Arthur's been there before it's um like a karaoke bar with uh like an arcade and bowling and there's a dance floor and like a bar and stuff like that yeah very good fun we all went there did some karaoke went there for Arthur Hill's birthday that's how I found out about it what a place it is a cool place actually um yeah did a bit of karaoke we were in there for a couple hours doing karaoke in the end yeah um belting at tunes by the way batch can sing No Arthur can sing yeah but I think people would assume that from but that goes without saying no but but Frank Sinatra came on and oh my goodness batch was just cooking that thing anyone can sing Frank arra welcome back Frank Sinatra he died and this is him reborn wasn't wasn't he heavily involved with the mafia Frank Sinatra so are you you're a quter Italian that's true but I can't admit that no not legally anyway oops they're going to come and get me try and come and get me watch me beat beat you all up actually I shouldn't say what if they do don't come and get me please I was just kidding I've got nothing to do with him he lives on 32 Italian back street oh my god that actually is my house number H what don't say that it's not that's my apartment number as well no we you're not finding out where we live um I'm going to move in with Arthur anyway we moved in together on Minecraft yeah sort of anyway back to karaoke we had fun at karaoke then we went home we didn't get back till 3:00 a.m. silly move because we had to be up early yeah we had it well not that early we had 10: a.m. taxi picks up yeah but we met at breakfast at 9:30 it was the most romantic breakfast of my life yeah um and then stayed at the Hilton Red Bull of class they put us in there they also like what a lovely experience not only did they take us to dinner they they paid for karaoke and everything like that they covered everything shout out to Red Ball I'm going to crack One open right now and they're actually delicious all these colored red balls my actual favorite is the summer edition you guys should actually try this this is not sponsored but I'm just saying this is not even the first thing I I did I went to salburg in Austria and did some Red Bull salburg video shooting with Chris MD um we did like penal sh outs in games with mads bistrup for their YouTube channel and then did a video in it was the the final one of christed uh every time you beat a Defender the defender gets upgraded that's right yeah and we start off with like Harry R Shaw as the worst Defender when all the way up to Champions League mads bistr who fantastic player I mean yeah you realize how like when you watch t uh football on TV you think oh I could do that yeah but then if you see a actual Pro in real life yeah like that makes sense why you went pro now actually we need to do more charity so that was fun that was fun there are a lot going on it's just timings cuz there's so many things going on during summer and that's usually when charity matches go down yeah but you got to work in the schedules either you're away or I'm away or there's a brand trip or something has to be submitted in time was crazy yeah but um no I'm sure we're going to do a lot more stuff with Red Bull as well so that's exciting um but anyway we then got the taxi to Alex Alexandra Palace Ali pal come on and um I've only just realized that's why it's Ali P really yeah I just thought that Ali P was the hill and Alexandre Palace was no way Ali now I've just heard it okay that's Ali P right anyway U you almost did a off the TV intro that right right so then we uh we got into the race so no we got into the Zone where the race was going on yeah and we got to have a little scout out all the public submitted soap boxes some really cool stuff in there yeah although there was one weird one because we rock up and there are like four girls gathered around water is essentially a double bed one girl just tucked up and you back like oh this is cool and she was like yeah it's really cozy get in we were like no I I ain't doing all that I'm sure though that you know that wasn't actually her like lying in it yeah I know you could tell something was weird under the covers but I was not getting involved what what what the hell um oh you can't see my soundboard I've got to pull this back so I can soundboard here yeah he hasn't got a soundboard yet thank goodness although I should no they all see the comments by the way Lara and Arthur see the comments and Lara even said into the group chat she was like I think we need to get bat of soundboard because of all the comments she sent me a message being like listen we've got one purchase a year we can authorize either we get cool mugs or batch gets a soundboard and I was like mugs mugs oh hell no I just think it's so much funnier when you do it yourself and go to I do think so but this is going to get worn down and eventually there's going to be a Hole uh oh audio listeners don't know what I'm doing I I just I pretend there's a soundboard and I just push the sof and make my I do it as well I do it in real life I'll be speaking to people when I'm BR but it doesn't make his much sense in real life just in a conversation he's just air poking stuff as he goes brh you know what's so funny as well I showed batch this someone one of you guys one of our listeners because cuz I you do it quite a lot but I do it all the time at you do the what yeah what that thing someone did a Tik Tok called whatting people in public so she goes into this petrol station goes to pay she goes like how much is that and he goes like Oh 1350 and she just goes what loud so loud just yells it in this man's face and everyone was like bad bad you guys have to recreate this it was so funny yeah and then Arthur was like we've got to do this we've got I don't know if I have the like what is it um social confidence to do that I'd be able to do it not yell it I thought it was a bit rude though the loud yelling not in a bad I'm not criticizing you I just able to do that like that myself I'd be like what I think sorry you got no no soup of the day what what when you have a camera on you though that you get a new found confidence in public like I found no no no in general I don't know if you agree with this in like a sidan video I Feel Like rules don't apply like social rules then don't apply cuz you've got a camer on you and you can do what you want whatever you want yeah I've only recently started being able to finally find it within myself to Vlog like when we were at wagas I was like this is actually fine yeah whereas before IID look at people vlogging in public and I go I admire you a lot cuz I can never do that it helps having people around you yeah although I feel like we do it with our phones it's a bit easier that's true whereas if people with their cameras out like facing their way I'm like oh my goodness I'd be so embarrassed yeah I think I would be as well especially if you got like a big rig on the end of that thing people are just admiring you your rig yeah both of them come on anyway um what speaking of the soap boxes that we saw um there was this one there was like these four guys like lying down chilling and they had this like Dome oh yeah which was kind of like a I guess like a spa you know the space shuttles that come down to earth it kind of looked a bit like that didn't yeah um like a landing module yeah like a landing module and they what did what did they make it off fiberglass or something yeah oh my God you could smell it from where we were still and they were like stick your head in that so we stuck it you stuck your head in first took a whiff and I did it afterwards oh my God dizzying genuinely dizzying I'm high I'm still high from that moment if anyone's ever been in like a a surfboard shop where they like make the surfboards yeah it smells like that it just smell exactly like that and they bizarre I just burped on I thought that was what that was that was disgusting hopefully that didn't get picked up apologize sorry guys sorry if you heard that cut that out anyway um it's not getting cut uh it they had to spend the whole run down in that thing so I think those guys are a little bit waved yeah I'm glad we I'm glad we were just a team of two and had two seats because I kind of felt bad some people that pushed the Soap Box thing down yeah like running after it for like 50 meters and it was a hot day that's true like um most people was like a team of four and two would push two would be in it I think that's standard isn't it to have two people in the so box and then a team that will push and Chase it down probably chase down chip and freezies yeah funny it was funny as well the way he was running because I guess it was like a it was like Looney Tunes the way he had his arms up like that chasing them down to be fair there are people I felt more bad for he talking about some of the injuries of the day oh my God and this is the thing like good gosh man we were already nervous then we were then we got to S see our um vehicle which they had made some mods to by the way so put me at ease a little bit they put foam in the place where my head would smash oh yeah so I felt about that yeah um they didn't they were going to cut out the wheel arches so we could turn more but they didn't I'm glad they I actually think that worked in our favor in it did um and they were actually slagging it off when it went up on towards stage they were speaking about it on Mike and they were like they can't turn properly they can't see over it and I was thinking oh no they're slagging off our thing they were talking about our buckets on the back and stuff I don't know if they were slagging off the buckets or just speaking about I just heard bucket like they're talking about ours oh my god um but it actually worked in favor and then there was screens up showing the first runs and it took a while it like an hour or two after we got there till the first run um but did you see the Sheep one no I didn't see any of the big ones but that's a bad one there was a sheep we I was watching a sheep go down um it was just before you did your stunt I think and it got all the way to the end and then at full speed flipped over onto their necks and I think it was one of them that broke their collarbone and it looked awful and after seeing that me and pieace was stood together we were like I we genuinely don't want to go down after seeing that he was [ __ ] it I was [ __ ] it um and then not only that I think other people must have like been bruised or whatever but the other big one that we heard about is we when we got to the start line we were there waiting for like 10 minutes and it was cuz the person who went down before us got knocked out so that's crazy yeah which I didn't see I don't think we'll ever see any footage of that but I don't know what vehicle it was or anything I just heard that they got knocked out that's why we were up there for ages yeah I mean it was going down insanely fast yeah it look I mean it looks quick on camera but it doesn't look nearly as quick as it feels yeah when you're in that thing oh my goodness and you can barely see in front of you you're bouncing all over the place you're hitting these jumps there are bits where there's foam that like splashes you in the face you have a few seconds of blindness yeah it's mental it it to best describe it definitely feels faster than sitting in a car at 60 MPH I'd say faster than it feels sitting in a car going 100 yeah cuz you're so exposed to we've never gone 100 I've been on the auto bar in Germany okay fair um but yeah you're exposed so it just feels so quick but we were quick insanely Qui insanely quick I think everyone we were the first of the creators to go up everyone thought we were going to just crash yeah or just be crap and slow there was so many comments so many DMs I got afterward was like [ __ ] fair enough before we even went down though before we get cuz we we will react we'll show you us going down yeah but I think we should tell them actually maybe should we hit play and then we'll pause at certain bits to be like explainer yeah I'll tell you what it plays it goes all the way through and then they do it in slow-mo afterwards we can on the slow-mo we'll do some explanation okay here we go batch and Arthur we had the podcast sticker oh it was such a good sticker on the side which was really cool and they zoomed in out loads for the YouTube video which is great yeah was all over the stream which was ideal although you cannot see podcast there until someone shads over it yeah someone's just shattering we were stood up there for ages genuinely yeah because someone had just been knocked out looking down this hill that was just so steep it's not funny but look at that thing that's so impressive it's so well built I can't believe it and I'm I'm gutted because I actually wanted to say to the we had a little bit of help from the Red Bull Engineers yeah I wanted to say thank you to them more just be like what did you see that that was really good yeah if anyone knows anything by any chance please pass on our thanks because yeah they they helped us hopefully they watched it and saw a great deal uh but we did do a lot I mean we did spend two full days building this thing and printing it up and stuff so yeah which you'll obviously see in the Vlog I'll talk about I'll talk about something later cuz there's um this was posted to Tik Tok and there's some funny comments on there really basically yeah basically calling us desk dwellers what so this is our performance so this performance we didn't know we no was supposed to do we we were told to choose a piece of music so we chose something like Space Odyssey style but we had no idea that meant we had to perform yeah and like like she's saying like there are points for performance and we knew about 10 minutes beforehand that this 30 second period of Music we'd have to Performance so we were like let's just do something simple gum shields in the mouth bow and get in and they were harsh they gave us a three but that also also counts to the way the vehicle looks so I think three is Harsh yeah but here we go performance score 22 poor but this is when we started racking up speed the steering was really weird as well cuz it changed as we got quicker and we were just bouncing as we went down like we'd hit a ramp and oh my goodness like almost front flipped that around we Whi around the corner and our our genuine one of our wings like clipped a ha Bell and just sliced through it that one sliced through the hay Bell I was thinking as we came down I swear I would have hit that side had I not hit that side and then nailed the braking and you said you could smell burnt rubber when you were breaking on that thing cuz I was like tickling the brakes like before a jump every now and then I do one all as we approached the chicane I pulled it yeah um but they said as we were going down in the commentary like yeah oh this feels fast usually you're hitting like low 20s here and it comes up on the side and we're hitting 30 km an hour yeah we were going and we were oh my goodness I'm glad you didn't break touch the break though we didn't need it yeah yeah I mean you did a did a little bit but I mean the others obviously touched it a lot more yeah I basically kept us at a speed where I was like this is very close to the line of like where we can make this corner at the speed because at the end of the day as a race and I was like we don't want to get up at the end and just be like oh like a couple of the soite boxes made it halfway down and just like stopped completely yeah and they were like having to like like I don't know like Shake It Forward it's so awkward like we did speak and we did say we'd actually rather crash going pretty quick than come to a grinding hle because it's just not good material yeah like we did it for Content wants to see that it's for a video we know representing creators at half time yeah so many people watching we've got a space shuttle that is designed at a velocity of 17,000 500 mph yeah so we were like you know hitting to be honest when they gave us those uh cuz we asked for special helmets that covered the face yeah when they gave me that I felt invincible and I thought oh [ __ ] it and we had gum Shields that we like ped poured into boiling water molded them before and molded them so we we felt pretty safe yeah I mean but still at 30 we weren but I don't have miles hour or kilm an hour I think it was mph I actually do really yeah but whatever it is at 30 like genuinely like just whacking your head against something solid is well I mean someone did get knocked out and broke it was terrifying yeah they they then do a slow-mo okay let's watch the slow-mo and we can break down exactly because I was thinking there was a point in the chicane when we really Whi round I was thinking why did that happen it was because the back right wheel wasn't on the ground when we were coming up to the chicane so when it touched the the ground it turned us into a corner so I was like [ __ ] and I had to spin it around one way and then back around the other way oh that's why we had that major wobble yeah and you can see it it's like it's cuz one of the wheels wasn't on the ground okay let's let's watch and like in the first one we'll try and go for the audio listeners kind of describe what we're seeing yeah so the first jump yeah we it was a heavy a heavy bit of Kit as well we definitely had one of the heavier ones it and it was like so we got through here the back that wheel wasn't on the ground so like had to correct it well the chicane of just having to go really quick left and then really quick right after yeah and then this pit we hit a bunch of stairs and bch basically grinds on the right hand of them it's cuz afterwards we had to be on the right hand side so I was thinking I can't turn directly after I'm going to have to turn on the ramp like the CL the the course is split in two with like steps on the left and straight on the right and we go down the steps but like half dangling off yeah you have a choice whether to do jumps or not obviously we were going to do the jumps cuz you get docked time um no they add time on if you go round cuz it's a bit unfair yeah but we you were just like let's head it yeah and after the first jump it it looks like we really jump around I don't know about you but in it it didn't feel that bad I I think I'm the exact opposite cuz I was going flying and my bum still Hur May was our positioning or cuz I was holding on to this when yeah I had nothing to hold on to I was just sat on a blue seat I re yeah I reckon that's what it was cuz it kept me like sort of planted you fix and you're in the center so with us like when when you go off the Jump the nose sort of goes down yeah it did and then the back col kicks up into the air and then slams down and because I'm at the back you really got you know I've got a lot further to fall and I just got whacked and my butt like when I sit on the sofa like no I can feel it bruised on I was actually un unscared I was absolutely fine yeah God it was um after that first jump though I got a lot more confidence in the run I was thinking oh that was fine I can we can do all the [ __ ] jumps yeah I just got full speed no I rate it I'm so glad you just sent it cuz and you I mean you didn't have a choice sending it yeah you just you na yeah exactly you could SL down but uh I they miked us did they mic you up CU they miked me up but I said nothing the whole run yeah why would you you couldn't because the thing is I was so focused I think it's because we went so quick because there's a Red Bull posted a video on their Tik Tok page where because they miked up chip and freezy and um it's off chip speaking to freezy and he's like on the brakes off the brakes okay we're going to go around this now and I think it's CU they were using the brakes and communicating about the brakes that they had stuff to say but because we were just you told me before you weren't going to touch the brake so I thought okay he's really not there's no point saying anything and you know whether it's a Brak or not so I was just thinking I'm just going to drive I was literally only thinking like I'm only going to slow us down if I feel like at this speed we either can't hit that jump properly or can't go around the corner and I was just tickling it and it was only at the end like I was like I've got to wait until we cross the finish line before I can break and I just Ram it and because it was a friction break it's like literally a metal bar that just pulls down onto both of the rear wheels it just starts smelling like burning rubber actually nailed that was so good though cuz we literally landed after that last jump we landed and I was like [ __ ] the Finish is right there and all I could hear was I just knew he pulled that thing so hard we came around the corner and didn't touch a single thing because he broke just in time yeah and the thing was untouched like the they said they it could get sent back to one of us so I send it to my house um I got I didn't tell you this yet I got a DM from someone saying I'm just about to watch your soap box get destroyed what no it's been graveyard we took it to a graveyard but we put it to one side no they told us we could have it uh yeah oh the guy might be lying I I pray he is cuz that's so harsh but I saw it in the DM request I was like [ __ ] surely not we should M message Adam but I think a big part of the reason we couldn't speak or do much else is because we weren't so full s we did that in 36 seconds chip and freezy were the second fastest in our group I think and they were 44 seconds yeah so we were we were literally seven or eight seconds I mean I don't exactly know what their milliseconds were but we were seven or eight seconds faster than them and I mean the difference like you watch them go down and they're sort of doing a decent speed but I thought them being go- karters you know they've got their Senor frogs they race every year yeah I was like they're going to bomb it too yeah but they kind of just played it relatively safe I mean good time time but like I do think we we absolutely Center and we had this guy come up to us at the end like should you say yeah say and this guy comes up to us and go don't like freak out now or anything um but we're checking because we genuinely think this was one of the fastest of all time yeah like fastest soap boxes ever he thought we hit the world record run right there and then and they cuz they had to check them by the millisecond yeah and we were a fraction of a second off being the fastest ever 1 18 of a second something something ridiculous like that and uh so I think we were either the second or the third fastest of all time yeah there were rumors at the end of the day and I don't know whether it was Chip just winding us up being like the last car of the day was slightly faster yeah they they yeah they said something like the last car of the day actually broke the world record so if that is true we're the third fastest of all time if not we are the second fastest of all time to go down that track and we rather the second of the first fastest of this year's event which is just just the coolest thing ever like we to be fair have also like we couldn't have picked a design that was Better Built For Speed I mean it's so people were saying this is this is aerodynamic and I was thinking it is but I don't think it's going to make that much of a difference in this yeah scenario and whether it did or not or whether it was just the fact that you didn't break much yeah I think that was it it was quite heavy it was heavy as well you had one of the heavy ones so at the start you can tell this was one of the things we were saying we should have got two people cuz we only got Jake to shove us at the start yeah and when when you start off just going down the ramp it took us a while to pick up speed if we had sort of been shoved and started at a really good pace and kept it at that pace I genely think we could have built the record but I'm I want to do it again same that's why I wanted to keep that cuz we could have just modified that and send it down we know that's a winning formula yeah make it into a submarine or something yeah exactly that thing works but Red Bull like they they we had such a great time with them they did so much for us and we were so grateful and we were speaking see nothing guaranteed and stuff um but they were saying there's a potential for us to come back and maybe do the one that you know you launch off a ramp and you're like 10 m up whatever and you've got to Glide over water as far as possible there and there are loads of other sort of like cool Red Bull events and stuff to do so um yeah I think we make this a thing if we can do just more of this stuff yeah I loved it it was genuinely one of the best things I've ever done I think yeah and there's a the the the only annoying thing is there's so much footage it's going to take a while to get the video together because Red Bull have Clips we have clips they've sent us a hard driver clipse I've got stuff on my phone B has stuff on his phone Jake has stuff on his phone so we'll gather it all together but when the video comes out I think it'll be such a good one because so good the whole experience was just the coolest thing ever and we couldn't be more grateful to Red Bull for that the perfect run at the end we just ended it so perfectly the whole experience I think yeah it couldn't have gone better afterwards I so cool yeah I couldn't get the helmet off though we got to the very end I could not figure out how to unclip the helmet so I did the interview with a helmet on yeah they could not hear thing as well you hear me go oh the atmosphere was electric and I know he said the electric thing and then we um yeah we Kenny from South Park hanging out with us we to I finally I got someone to take my helmet off we drove the soap box down to the graveyard thing but they said they weren't going to break it we put it to one side it might be broken and then we had to run up the hill because we had to get on the live stream to do an interview straight afterwards yeah and oh my God you realize how far we came down Running Up That thing that it was 400 to 500 M back up a relatively Steep Hill on a very hot day we were exhausted from the day before and uh being out the night before and having the race and all that kind of stuff and in boiler suits and it was a hot day boiling I got so sweaty at the top we got to the top and we were like that was just a thoroughly unenjoyable experience but it was cool cuz there I heard I don't I think I told you at the time I heard a kid as we ran past he was like oh my God racers felt like an F1 driver in that moment yeah that really went straight to my head yeah I bet we felt a lot cooler than we probably looked just running around in boiler suits and I'm my Red Bull cap on we had shades on surprised he hasn't got that red bull cap on today by the way that thing you're going to have to peel that off his dead body I've been wearing it so much lady just cuz I I love it it's good for green screen stuff that is the one thing I I might start wearing cuts out the wispy hair yeah it cuts out the wispy hair which kind of ruin the illusion I've got that real issue whereas when you wear a cap it's like a smooth round thing and the green screen just looks much better I see my editors have all been like wear a cap as often as possible oh so they even so they tell you what to do huh you're not Char they do interesting well I keep my editors locked away and then I give them footage and they're like please I want to see my family please share an editor now no King yeah we do shout out king great honestly fantastic worker his work ethic he sent me a video and like couple hours later he was like actually here's a V2 I watched it back and I I could see some improvements I was like kind of mentality and he's not been editing for long either yeah so he's I think all selft talk cow's amazing as well they're both just great honestly yeah people listening a fascinated here about how much we love our tives yeah let's get back to the Red Bull so box race so then we did our interview at the very top which is when cuz we went down first so we were Then followed by all the other creators who did the race um we didn't really get to see them at the time cuz we were running up the the bloody Hill but um we got to the top they all slowly joined us did their interview and then it got revealed the scores so there were different categories we were like ranked on or scored on the first being performance and I I'm pretty sure the style of the cart comes into that as well yeah and so we what did we get like what was it 20 22 it was really bad 40 terrible score we got like a seven a six a three and a five something like that whoever gave us a three what's wrong with you huh they were grumpy though cuz I think chip and frezy got something like 39 and the guy that person gave them a nine apparently they were really mean scoring the whole time that's crazy but chip and fzy knew about the performance thing which we I know how they knew about that we had no idea chip and freezy raced as a box of 20 chicken McNuggets yeah and they brought like homemade barbecue sauce and just on each other yeah pry just poured it all over them it was good like as performances go that's like the best thing you can do yeah so they got a really great score like almost perfect just one guy dropped a mark on it um 39 out 40 but I feel like I feel like giving us a three was really harsh I know our performance wasn't great but the music was very fitting yeah and maybe we should have pretended we were on the moon with our jumping or something like walking like that he just had such a cool carard we had so little time to think about it yeah I feel like it was harsh though look at our car that was really cool yeah maybe we were also ranked harshly because we were the first creators to go down maybe maybe we would have got a better score if we were towards the end I don't know yeah maybe but um yeah we did really bad on that and then you get obviously score for your speed in finishing the race yeah which we smashed Everyone by like four four seconds or something or seven or eight yeah like seven or eight seconds Quicks first to second and the second fastest and I think Becky and pieace got a dnf finish either they hit a minute or they stopped completely yeah cuz they went over one of the jumps and then front end broke so the wheel wasn't really like or the front was touching the floor dragging across the floor so they just I felt bad for them they just ped all across but at least they got down in one piece that's the they were just in a pint glass yeah it was really cool and they had a they had a cool performance Becky poured pint on um pie which was funny um con and Jack had a cool performance they just had some Swagger about it like yeah it was cool oh yeah we got picked on the performance but they did struggle getting into the vehicle did they yeah CU it's really hard and narrow to get in um they got they everyone got all the way to the end by the way Colin Jack fell over at the end there thing just went on its side they they chose thinner Wheels I didn't think they were going to make it that far yeah they also had a really high center of gravity cuz their car was thin and quite tall yeah like if you looked at their car it looked like it wanted to fall over it was a bit like chitty chitty bang bang but like elongated yeah so they did really well to and they were drifting it as well it was drifting so they did really well to get to the bottom um but yeah we were like seven seconds quicker than seven or eight seconds quicker than the second fastest which was it chip and freezy or was it Con I think it might have been no chip and frezy was Heavy wasn't it to be fair so that would move um and then there was People's Choice which we said we won 49% and was those were those those three so I think the reason so we ended up coming third we came third out of the four I just think it wasn't like cuz we won two out of three categories you'd think we'd win but I think they gave they were sort of like weighted yeah so because we were so low on the performance us being ahead on the other two bits didn't pull us up enough I think it's really harsh I think it doesn't matter at all by the way I don't I don't care but I do think it's harsh that performance is weighted so heavily in comparison to like speed has got to be the most important thing yeah like it's a race I know that's that's the way we were looking at it that's because it's a race come on we were focus on the race as aspect obviously soap boxes isn't Formula 1 is supposed to be like a bit of fun cretive stuff which you do get um but yeah hard winning two out of three categories and winning the race comfortably well it was more like at in the moment when they were revealing who won out of us four I was thinking in my head oh we've definitely won yeah after winning we got like 50% of the votes for People's Choice so it was a landslide Victory they said and a landslide Victory on the speed so I was thinking we have smashed those two things so surely we've gained loads of points for that yeah and we came third I was like I'm actually quite shocked by that I in my head I was thinking oh my God we've won yeah but um no it was so means anything like there's I don't there's nothing for it yeah I was just surprised but genuinely so it was so good yeah it was it was definitely definitely one of the best things I've ever done I was so glad that we did it I can't wait for the proper video to come out and have it all like a documentary s of documented archive just being like Oh I can look back at that video that was a banger yeah oh it was it was really good um then we stuck around and watched some public racing um and yeah there was it was it was nice there was a nice like area where you could get food and stuff and the worms showed up oh yeah lots of the patreon supporters a couple of N and non patreon people showed up lots of podcast people I'm guessing everyone there was podcast listeners because I didn't really put it on any platform no I think it it was all podcast we spoken about on the on on the podcast and in the patreon group chat quite a lot yeah and that was pretty much it so thank you well regardless if it's yeah thank you guys for coming along cuz it was so nice speaking to everyone great really great to have your support um yeah and yeah you guys were there for most of the day just like stood by our um what do you call it Soap Box stood by our Soap Box we were coming over when we could to say hi and stuff yeah everyone got photos we oh my goodness quite a lot of people wanted us to draw tattoos for them oh dear and we are not artistic no we're close yeah I'm a letter away but I not draw sa in my life and I was like the only thing I could think of was the rocket emoji yeah that was pretty good to be fair I was trying to draw them but getting the three little things at the bottom and the fire I was like I was like show this to your artist and they'll get what I'm trying to draw yeah they'll understand I mean I just ended up drawing flowers CU it's the easiest thing to draw it's got nothing to do with me a lot of art what just happened you just got bored of your own conversation I just yawned I was hoping you take it off me really quickly cuz I yawned no someone asked for a cameo once where they were like can you draw something for us to do a tattoo and I did a a ringed planet oh nice and oh my goodness trying to get cuz obviously if you put the circle there first the ring that goes in front like cuts through lines and it looks crap so you've kind of got to start with the ring but obviously just as the ring curves back around you have to stop and then you have to imagine where the sphere is going to be and oh my goodness I burnt through about half this notebook trying to get one that just looks semi-reasonable so whoever invented Saturn fair enough yeah exactly that must have been difficult and Uranus yep that's also ringed yeah um many too many rings yeah I've got a ring do you oh yeah and that weekend batch proposed to me so I said yes no I'm talking about my ass what anyway um it was it was a different kind of proposition to the one you were thinking of yours is way cuter than mine and I said no oh hell no I just got that that's disgusting cuz I was like on Saturday night we were just chilling we were like go we're exhausted yeah and I was like do you want to just stay around and Bach was like yeah so we played fornite and watch scary movies yeah he took me to get sushi again yeah we went to sticks and Sushi again but I was like I kind of want to make more videos but we were just so tired yeah I it was too late you just what you made me watch horror stuff we we watched a bunch of scary videos on YouTube like real ghost sightings and short horror movies and I was like I've wanted to do videos like that with you ages I was like then was the perfect time but our energy was just shock yeah we'll do it we'll definitely do it another time though CU people just love that love that horror game yeah is entertaining to watch other people get scared people don't want to watch you have fun they want to watch you cringe and be scared people enjoyed us having fun of Minecraft true but you were scared of I died like five six times I'm not very good clearly everyone's making fun of me did I die once I didn't I don't think no but your spirit died at one point hell no my spirit my spirit was always my spirit were through the roof um when I was getting attacked by Leona Lewis and I was hiding in the house turns out Leona Lewis can't go in water so I should have just gone in water I saw that comment yeah thanks for that thanks for the comment I'm actually going to use that logic and I I already want to film episode three right now do you yeah it was so fun we'll do it this week actually it's so fun like I enjoy playing it we're just loading up M fil although he needs a he needs a setup can we can we tell this boy to put some money towards a proper setup he plays on his PlayStation so we have to play Bedrock Edition so I can't use my nice shaders that make the waters and everything look clean and all the like graphics and stuff you know the like it's T's water we're keeping it the graphics upgrades are insane look just just a bit enjoy a humble bit of like Minecraft where it's nostalgic not everything has to be polished yeah okay fine um but no it was it was really good fun and it is it is I do love that we can just do that kind of stuff and just play a game and it would be fun yeah um we can just like high five when we want yeah anyway um back to let's go back in time to um the end of the race he wet himself no he didn't he didn't no he didn't but um I just want to make sure that we covered everything no because we didn't speak about um the stunt the stunts oh yeah you should tell them about the stunt they they just flung on you they didn't tell you until yeah they didn't tell me about this before and they made me sign my rights away yeah and it it was they had already Ked off the live stream so you just had to do it yeah um we basically batch got nice one he got pulled aside and they were like oh is the driver we're testing your reflexes yeah and what did they do they so she dropped a ruler and you just had to grab the ruler um as soon as she dropped it and just see how many centimeters you let drop to judge your reaction time I didn't do I think I came second actually nice but on the practice I failed uh so I was like oh that was nice and peaceful and fun I wonder what mine's going to be and they get me and they they I put this heart monitor on and I was like what they put this heart monitor on me put me in the middle of this cage and this dude called like Douglas or something comes up in this massive dirt bike and just goes like I'll lie down in the middle and I was like I know exactly where this is going got R to me and Jack just start planking and he's sort of in this giant he giant of a man I swear he's like 6'4 in this massive dirt bike and he's sort of there like on one wheel bouncing the like wheel like an inch from my head and I'm like if he just if anything misjudges he crushes my skull yeah like we we we lose one of the Bright Young talents of this generation and you as well wait what do you mean well they'd get Jack and you oh yeah yeah good old Jack and then then he was doing like wheelies around your head like just driving past full speed past his head yeah it was giving me the E actually see lie down there insane and I was just like well I'm playing it cool cuz that's like the name of the game it'd be cringe if I got up and I mean they they even said that if you get up you're at risk of just getting your head whacked cuz he's like an inch within your head so if you move it until you die yeah um and for like a minute he just did this and bounced around and yeah you were down there for a hot minute yeah we were there for ages just getting driven around I thought oh this is just getting this is just cruel now yeah I mean the poor boy is just lying there with a boner by the way uh because he gets that happens when he gets scared just why you think I keep getting you for horror games oh no i h on a Bo so he's just doing circling circling circling around Arthur on the floor it just I just felt a bit sorry for him in the end yeah uh so that was terrifying but good F night you know I'm up for anything I did realized the other day I'm just one of his friends who's just up for thing yeah you are actually someone could be like hey we're going to sit inside and watch movies tonight I be like fine or they can be like come on man we're robbing a bank I'm like cool they'll be like come on going glamping for the weekend do you is that real though if I said or okay let's go and watch the Euros tonight fine let's do it England England this is the last night of the group stage and all of a sudden the mood is really dead because we're just through now we've not played well either it's been pathetic there I said it and Harry Kane when you finally come on this podcast I've got some strong words to have with you mine mine Reserve is Gareth Southgate and not bringing BR and not playing kobby Mayu okay sorry Harry Kane actually way he's playing phenomenally to be not as if we're missing him but I'm mad at you Southgate yeah Italy um not playing too bad oh my goodness you're Italian did you watch the game last night and they scored the 90th plus eight to go through 98th minute it was the draw against Croatia oh that was heartbreaking poor the thing is they probably would have gone through anyway as one of the people third but um it's nice to confirm it you know yeah those moments of elation just so hard I think Italy just like a decent Striker anyway we won't bore you with football because a lot of people probably don't care about football yeah um but yeah I mean I'm getting into F1 now yes you are you watch drive to survive right yeah I've been watching drive to surv I need to get on that I really want to watch that um and hence why the Red Bull so box race I was really in I was really in my element Because You Loved does it make you love Red Bull as well the driver to survive does it follow a particular team it follows the mall and to be honest I haven't really got like a team I really um it's not like I really want to see this team win it's more people that you care about it's good to see Red Bull doing well but um I like Lando do you yeah you're Lando Norris enjoyer I'm a Lando enjoyer I like them all to be fair from what I've seen I like I get I like Char all oh cuz he kind he kind of looks like Charles mclair uh yeah I get uh Lando Norris a lot people always say like L nor I'm not sure about that boy and uh obviously like V stappen red the Red Bull goat what batch V stappen high five what does that even mean batch for steppen me batch for steppen batch for steppen me instead of Max for Sten batch for Sten it's one of the only times that batch really goes into anything batch for Sten what do people nickname you at school get tuna boy cuz I've brought in tuna fish boy uh right I was going duckling I was going for more names like name related like okay because I was oh name related I was I was called nothing I was just called Arthur I don't know why I said it like that I was called Nothing me yeah had no friends at school no I didn't really people would say ice as a joke ice yeah I just I didn't like not having a cool nickname name my sister one of my sisters calls me Izzy that's really cringe and feminine yo she watches these which is fine yo she watches these apologize down the lens right now I apologize nothing cuz it is it was true it was my truly held opinion and you should never apologize for being yourself sometimes she calls me Elizabeth as well what and I don't really know where she got that from she started that was a good what what yeah she watches it where she works as she was working she'll have it on Gizzy by the way I didn't get cancelled for what Sunday came out where I waterboarded Chris I haven't watched that and I was seriously worried I was genuinely like I thought you know just some people on the internet can be real yeah cuz they might be like oh you're making fun of water boarding people actually die from water boarding that's not what I exactly what I meant oh because okay you can't waterboard Chris because he doesn't like water and some people have been drowned before no okay of course because because you shouldn't do water boarding because it's like saying this is something you should it's really on impressionable fans and they'll be like okay I'm going to water board my mom tonight right maybe maybe that was like oh you shouldn't do that on to an impression I'm going to cancel you right now in that case um but no I I I just thought people would be like oh that was so mean of him they're not friends like just you know when you don't really know I mean obviously anyone who's seen Chris and videos knows how much abuse he puts me through I mean that guy abuse shs down on my neck like there's no tomorrow he's just I I'll just be chilling mid shootting he'll just go on my traps I mean granted they're juicy like they're nice muscular defined um have you ever thought you might just be a vampire I don't know hiding in plain sight you know you've got two Pierce marks right there you getting sucked by you've got really garlicky breath so I don't think I could be a a vampire cuz otherwise let's not start rumors like that otherwise I'd run there's not start rumors like that yeah my breath smells like daisies rainbows fairy tales I'm always chewing gum you are always chewing gum you're a real gum chewer yeah it Bo it boosts your confidence it's like putting a pair of sunglasses on I'm glad you don't do it on the podcast that would be the most annoying thing to listen to I have done it before but I just tuck it into my teeth like snz you don't mean that it's gum you don't mean that it's gum it's just weird you don't mean that it's gum gum started freaking out you know we were speaking about eggs the other day when you you're Midway through eating heads and you're like wait up yeah that's a period something ain't right that's a menstrual cycle raor and you're like yeah well that weirdly makes me like it more it's more than I knew you were a feminist me too come on yeah um we do like to bring awareness to the fact that women exist and have Cycles cuz I I I mentioned menstrual cycles all the time and I in one of my YouTube videos I was like I've got to stop saying menstrual cycles drop a comment if you think I should stop saying menual cycle everyone's like no and someone's like no it actually feels kind of feminist in a weird way cuz you're bringing light to the fact of cuz not everyone knows that women have I think everyone knows women have periods I found out 3 days ago watching your video you thought they had penis what I just thought they merely existed they merely exist in a in a realm Between Heaven and Hell where somewhere I love doesn't exist what the hell is this guy talking about women only exist in heaven women are heaven on Earth in my opinion how does that song Go heaven heaven for what it's worth women are heaven on Earth women are heaven on Earth brother in Christ you don't know what you're talking about right now I feel like we're getting on to Serious brain rot have you got anything else this is a rare batch prepared actually been praying preparing a lot um all of the episodes lately we've actually yeah hence why the quality's increased um no you just you do stuff in a different way I like like reading and talking reading well next episode's prepared by by Arthur and we'll be filming this directly after this one yeah we're doing complet transparency cuz batch is way on holiday and I'm going to be honest because I'm not I've not brought a spare pair of clothes anyway yeah me neither I don't want to hear no comments like why is he wearing that shirt again well they should be comenting CU alth this on an episode before quite frankly Arthur is either can I just say by the way I predicted what you were going to be wearing on the Red Bull meal I said Arthur will turn up in Black corduroy shorts um and a cream beige top shirt either worn as an overshirt with a white t-shirt underneath or just a shirt that's exactly what you were that's true I mean I have two other pairs of shorts I had a black like pair that were like had textured but the waistband thing snapped hard to find a good pair of shorts and then I had a nice like cream beige pair yeah um but they were just like I don't know linen and just ended up being a bit too and take it from a guy a sleepover with him he doesn't take them off he showers in them he goes me to take them off he was like take them off take them off take them off and I was like leave me alone yeah I was like please wash please wash you were just misreading me I wasn't saying take them off I was like please wash please wash anyway I I got the um I went into the patreon chat o uh little plug if you want to join the patreon go ahead there's a chat you get early access to episodes they get uploaded all the time and Bullies me in it yeah I do speak in there a fair amount um and I said to them we're filming two pods today can you guys reply to this message with any questions you have about the Red Bull Soapbox race we're going to be doing a whole episode on it uh because I thought there might be you know they might want to know more information on how it was built or how we were feeling and stuff and we could just give us some insight to that we've just explained the day how cool it was blah blah blah but they want to know the BTS let's see how insightful their questions can be okay did you hurt your nose that's [ __ ] rude no I didn't that obviously pointed at you no I didn't to be fair I did we had said in an episode prior that there was no foam and we are going to smash our faces in they put foam in we had good helmets on but we didn't actually crash so yeah we didn't crash so although his coxic bone is in pain yeah my coxics I'm absolutely fine because I'm not weak that's your tailbone um may ask for us highly evolved Apes that was from Brooke by the way I'll say names shout outs May says how SL why did you decide to build a rocket why I guess cuz it's very on brand for us have a look at our mugs yep yeah I mean we're just we're were're a Spacey themed podcast for no apparent reason we genely I'm sure we said in the earlier episodes we had no plans to be themed and bats just randomly one day went let's just make it space themed I just think it's cool yeah me I just think we both think it's cool we do we just need a cool set I think most of the things we do is because we think oh that's cool like the Soap Box we thought oh it'd be cool if we did a a ship or a ufi yeah just cuz it just cuz it's funny someone actually messaged in for the next one I've got like the submissions from the normal submissions page which everyone can enter just go to our any of our socials at Bach and arur and in the link there's like a a link tree and one of them is the submissions form and they were like what is your target audience because I can't really figure it out and I'm studying media at the moment target audience is such a big thing and I was like we don't have one we just come on talk about whatever we find interesting yeah and just hope that some people agree yeah and the people who do listen are actually very um diverse yeah and intelligent and cool and good looking and all this yeah um so yeah no um yeah and it's weird because we're not sitting there going oh let's talk about this to appeal to this audience which I think is I mean somehow it works so thank you guys for tuning into thanks cuz I think if you analyzed it in like a media class and it was like oh one minute you're doing brain rot meme references and the next you're talking about s men and then the next we're talking about Greek philosophy and the next one like Roman Parables and then religion they'd be like well someone's going to listen to the one episode like it and then not like the rest yeah but for some reason people just like listening to it all really I think we just decided that we're just going to do what we want like yeah whatever we enjoy yeah like whatever we enjoy and whatever we F feel like talking about we're just going to do it because if you want to enjoy something you've like if you want this if we want this podcast to continue we've got to enjoy it and if we're looking at it tactically like Oh Let's do an episode on this so we can boost our audience in this demographic it will start to feel like a like a real job well like you know I've heard from other people that do podcasts that their producers will be like today you're having this guest on and they're like well I've never watched the show they're on or Never follow them don't care about the story but I've got to do it's nice that we kind of have a just able to just go oh whatever and I do think the stuff we talk about is interesting broadly like if you're someone who like whenever we meet or speak to anyone who watches the podcast they're always like oh I love like these types of interesting discussions I feel like if you have a generally curious mind yeah like if if people who are listening to this and enjoy it are going to be similar to us in that respect and they you know even if they don't have a an interest in any of the particular like they might be like oh I love hearing about religion I'm a curious person but they don't care about Greek philosophy yeah or anything when we speak about the ship of thesis they're still like oh it's an interesting thought like it's an interesting thought so if you're one of those types of people like us then all that kind of stuff is interesting I guess thus our our demographic is people who just have similar interests to us yeah or like have a similar outlook on life or yeah that's the thing it's not even like it's just it's the broad value of curiosity I think who just like they like to laugh they like a bit of Comedy cuz we even get people who disagree with us and they're like oh I'm religious I completely disagree with this all but it was so interesting to listen to and so they're not listening because we're speaking about things that they find um they agree with or they enjoy you know but they're going like oh like I like the way these topics are approached or the way this is discussed and yeah so yeah hopefully we'll try and keep that up um hey no way we're going to brain Rock 24/7 after here or no anyway um Connie asked what was your top speed we don't actually know but what did you think it was 30 well when we passed we passed the speed gate at what will be one of the fastest points and that was 30 okay mil K yeah km pH um Leia says do you think you were going to make it to the Finish Line did you think you were going to make it to the Finish Line I genuinely um did not think we were going to make it past the chicane to be honest yeah cuz I didn't realize the course was as wide as it was however the as narrow as it was you mean actually yeah yes and no the thing is it's like driving a car when you're in a car it looks like you're you're bigger than the road but actually you can fit in much smaller of a gap than you expect yourself to be able to and so when you're actually in the soap box when we were doing the chicane in my head I thought we're going to catch one of the hay bals and go flying but actually although it was actually pretty close watching it back it felt like I had enough room to get round and stuff well two hay bals we did fully slic through well yeah if the wings were like flat fronted we would have we could have just spun out flown but because the wings were just like yeah we the first one and then the second one we through that yeah um but in no I didn't think we were going to make it down in one piece to be honest I thought either we'd get to the end and there' be damage or we'd fall over at the end or we just wouldn't make it to the end cuz it's not a like it more often than not you don't make it to the end yeah so I thought statistically I didn't I didn't think we were going to make it to the end so I was surprised were you or not it's so funny because at the start you're like I really don't know but be when you're going down it's so fast and you've got to think a lot like yeah I was just constantly thinking like just monitoring whether we were going too fast or not to be like bring the speed down ever so slightly and it's everything's happening so fast you don't have time to think oh are we going to make it like any hypotheticals it's just uh pull the break break on break off break off oh my goodness are we going to make this corner are we going to too fast at how are we doing like all this kind of stuff's rushing through your head I didn't even think about it I was no so yeah I had no thoughts in my head either I think we were just on reflex at that point yeah because every yeah like Arthur said everything's coming at you so quick like before the chane I thought I had enough time to put my hand up and wave and I was like [ __ ] no I don't yeah so that's when I came back onto the wheel and did that so we really don't have much time in that thing um then Phoenix asks what was the hardest and easiest part of the creative process oh hard po was coming up with an idea for what we wanted to do as the car because we took ages like they were asking us for the design for so long and we were like we really don't know it is hard when you can do literally anything it's like the classic situation where you've got too much Choice yeah so you can't make a decision and neither necessarily creative creative types yeah so we and also it's it's difficult as well when there's two people because obviously if one person wants to do something we we agreed yeah we we didn't have any friction on what we wanted to do we because we both didn't really have an idea but you've got to make sure that what one person comes up with the other person's happy to do um but I think from the go we just suggested either a space shuttle or UFO we were both happy with those two ideas and then we had a look at some pictures and we thought okay let's go for a space sh that was it yeah so I think that um it was hard in the beginning but to to be honest the decision process was pretty easy for us in the end I do think the hardest part although that was hard I think what was harder for us was probably um building the chassis don't you think it was harder than the woodwork yeah that's probably true cuz we didn't have any engineer assistance with the underly car yeah the actual chassis itself we just had bits like we didn't have instructions for half of it we were in in a big Warehouse with just a bunch of nuts bolts rods	it I thought it was a bit rude though the loud yelling not in a bad I'm not criticizing you I just able to do that like that myself I'd be like what I think sorry you got no no soup of the day what what when you have a camera on you though that you get a new found confidence in public like I found no no no in general I don't know if you agree with this in like a sidan video I Feel Like rules don't apply like social rules then don't apply cuz you've got a camer on you and you can do what you want whatever you want yeah I've only recently started being able to finally find it within myself to Vlog like when we were at wagas I was like this is actually fine yeah whereas before IID look at people vlogging in public and I go I admire you a lot cuz I can never do that it helps having people around you yeah although I feel like we do it with our phones it's a bit easier that's true whereas if people with their cameras out like facing their way I'm like oh my goodness I'd be so embarrassed yeah I think I would be as well especially if you got like a big rig on the end of that thing people are just admiring you your rig yeah both of them come on anyway um what speaking of the soap	8	4	6	it I thought it was a bit rude though the loud yelling not in a bad I'm not criticizing you I just able to do that like that myself I'd be like what I think sorry you got no no soup of the day what what when you have a camera on you though that you get a new found confidence in public like I found no no no in general I don't know if you agree with this in like a sidan video I Feel Like rules don't apply like social rules then don't apply cuz you've got a camer on you and you can do what you want whatever you want yeah	I've only recently started being able to finally find it within myself to Vlog like when we were at wagas I was like this is actually fine yeah whereas before IID look at people vlogging in public and I go I admire you a lot cuz I can never do that it helps having people around you yeah although I feel like we do it with our phones it's a bit easier that's true whereas if people with their cameras out like facing their way I'm like oh my goodness I'd be so embarrassed yeah I think I would be as well especially if you got like a big rig on the end of that thing people are just admiring you your rig yeah both of them come on anyway um what speaking of the soap	2,4,6	4,3,5	2	4	6	4	3	5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0g_xJvKEb8	4,108	-0g_xJvKEb8	2024-06-27 00:00:00	[Music] what's up everybody welcome back to episode 14 of the batch and Arthur podcast yay go thanks for joining everyone we have something to reveal yes we do I know you guys don't like it when Arthur has his mug on the couch because he tends to drop things don't you never dropped anything actually okay you dropped that th done remember that well you might have noticed I also have my mug on the sofa mhm wondering why who wants to know why should we tell them something to do with one like equals one Lara maybe something to do with that exactly you guys ready see what you reveal go way for audio listeners we have white mugs with our little cartoon characters on them that's right little will I didn't want to Cheers you and I've got my little handsome space guy come on yeah Lara surprised us with these this is a gift um mine shatterproof as well apparently oh it's not sh yeah he's got a plastic mug because we know what he's like I've sippy C the audio listeners actually little rubber cppy cup with two handles well actually when Arthur drinks from a mug show them how you do it I'll I'll commentate for this he uses two hands so he grabs on the like handle and then he grabs the other hand I drink everything with two hands especially tea and Pints yeah I don't really know what is there a reason for that or not safety I guess twice as balanced is that really if one arm stops working the other one's there as a fail safe well there you go that's why he does it guys so it makes sense all after all yeah um speaking of batch and Arthur this podcast design right here yeah this has been plasted on something recently what our rocket ship oh yeah guys we just got back from the Red Bull Soap Box race and we're alive 2024 we genuinely were not sure we were going to survive no I was but we did really scared we we turned up we got to see other people's cards um and there was basically two things going on so there's like a public race and then the Creator race was like a separate thing which is streamed on YouTube If you go on Red Bull's um YouTube channel and you go on under the live tab you can actually watch the full thing yeah we were like a half time race yeah it was Bas half time show yeah there was a few people who weren't happy about the Creator's uh racing cuz they thought we were mixed in with the public but it's like a whole separate thing like we can't win any awards over the public or anything like that yeah um but but we won the hearts of the public come on yeah we did win the hearts of the public there was a a couple of things that you were like rated on as creators and one of them was People's Choice and we got a landslide victory of 44% yeah it actually ended up on 49% 50% out of four teams we got 49 everyone rounds 49 thank you to everyone who voted for us we one of four teams but we're up against chip and freezy who have a big loving audience Becky and pieace who audience and then con from the siden huge loving audience and the guy who's our cameraman on the train video the siden that's right Jack was there as well went to with con they had cool out but uh we we got to Ali p uh that's my first time there you've been there before actually I think we should start the day before okay let's let's reel that [ __ ] back because we had another sleepover kind of yeah we did have another let's just say oh no we didn't really a hotel yeah we did not have a sleepover but what did we do where did we first meet we we met at the we met at the hotel at the hotel dropped our bags off Adam was there he's the Red Bull guy that was been looking after us and he took all the creators out to dinner yeah we to find the tell first yeah chopped a pint um both hands come on yeah then we got in a taxi we went to dinner we had a create a dinner um what did you eat pizza yeah I had a really really hot hot pizza but the thing I was enjoying the most was the football we had a massive screen in front of us oh yeah cuz France were playing Netherlands NE scen I felt kind of harsh cuz the the table was positioned in a way that only half of us could see the football and the other half were just watching us watching football yeah but no he they were watching a react video basically they got to see us live reacting In the Flesh um but the meal was really good the food was really good uh Jake was struggling Jake the guy works with um Arthur they both got the same Pizza he was struggling with the heat yeah he was [ __ ] [ __ ] struggling with the Pint as well got two pints steep was steaming no cuz he was so in denial Jake yeah Jake had a couple pints and he was gone we were like you are drunk he like I am not drunk and he was getting angry mad I'm not even drunk he's I haven't even done anything later he's doing karaoke so that's belting out karaoke with his phone to the to the mic with with voice note on my God it's so that was you singing those Tunes to someone yeah we yeah CU you've been to a place before should we say the name of the place or not I actually I don't remember it anyway okay we went to this place anyway Arthur's been there before it's um like a karaoke bar with uh like an arcade and bowling and there's a dance floor and like a bar and stuff like that yeah very good fun we all went there did some karaoke went there for Arthur Hill's birthday that's how I found out about it what a place it is a cool place actually um yeah did a bit of karaoke we were in there for a couple hours doing karaoke in the end yeah um belting at tunes by the way batch can sing No Arthur can sing yeah but I think people would assume that from but that goes without saying no but but Frank Sinatra came on and oh my goodness batch was just cooking that thing anyone can sing Frank arra welcome back Frank Sinatra he died and this is him reborn wasn't wasn't he heavily involved with the mafia Frank Sinatra so are you you're a quter Italian that's true but I can't admit that no not legally anyway oops they're going to come and get me try and come and get me watch me beat beat you all up actually I shouldn't say what if they do don't come and get me please I was just kidding I've got nothing to do with him he lives on 32 Italian back street oh my god that actually is my house number H what don't say that it's not that's my apartment number as well no we you're not finding out where we live um I'm going to move in with Arthur anyway we moved in together on Minecraft yeah sort of anyway back to karaoke we had fun at karaoke then we went home we didn't get back till 3:00 a.m. silly move because we had to be up early yeah we had it well not that early we had 10: a.m. taxi picks up yeah but we met at breakfast at 9:30 it was the most romantic breakfast of my life yeah um and then stayed at the Hilton Red Bull of class they put us in there they also like what a lovely experience not only did they take us to dinner they they paid for karaoke and everything like that they covered everything shout out to Red Ball I'm going to crack One open right now and they're actually delicious all these colored red balls my actual favorite is the summer edition you guys should actually try this this is not sponsored but I'm just saying this is not even the first thing I I did I went to salburg in Austria and did some Red Bull salburg video shooting with Chris MD um we did like penal sh outs in games with mads bistrup for their YouTube channel and then did a video in it was the the final one of christed uh every time you beat a Defender the defender gets upgraded that's right yeah and we start off with like Harry R Shaw as the worst Defender when all the way up to Champions League mads bistr who fantastic player I mean yeah you realize how like when you watch t uh football on TV you think oh I could do that yeah but then if you see a actual Pro in real life yeah like that makes sense why you went pro now actually we need to do more charity so that was fun that was fun there are a lot going on it's just timings cuz there's so many things going on during summer and that's usually when charity matches go down yeah but you got to work in the schedules either you're away or I'm away or there's a brand trip or something has to be submitted in time was crazy yeah but um no I'm sure we're going to do a lot more stuff with Red Bull as well so that's exciting um but anyway we then got the taxi to Alex Alexandra Palace Ali pal come on and um I've only just realized that's why it's Ali P really yeah I just thought that Ali P was the hill and Alexandre Palace was no way Ali now I've just heard it okay that's Ali P right anyway U you almost did a off the TV intro that right right so then we uh we got into the race so no we got into the Zone where the race was going on yeah and we got to have a little scout out all the public submitted soap boxes some really cool stuff in there yeah although there was one weird one because we rock up and there are like four girls gathered around water is essentially a double bed one girl just tucked up and you back like oh this is cool and she was like yeah it's really cozy get in we were like no I I ain't doing all that I'm sure though that you know that wasn't actually her like lying in it yeah I know you could tell something was weird under the covers but I was not getting involved what what what the hell um oh you can't see my soundboard I've got to pull this back so I can soundboard here yeah he hasn't got a soundboard yet thank goodness although I should no they all see the comments by the way Lara and Arthur see the comments and Lara even said into the group chat she was like I think we need to get bat of soundboard because of all the comments she sent me a message being like listen we've got one purchase a year we can authorize either we get cool mugs or batch gets a soundboard and I was like mugs mugs oh hell no I just think it's so much funnier when you do it yourself and go to I do think so but this is going to get worn down and eventually there's going to be a Hole uh oh audio listeners don't know what I'm doing I I just I pretend there's a soundboard and I just push the sof and make my I do it as well I do it in real life I'll be speaking to people when I'm BR but it doesn't make his much sense in real life just in a conversation he's just air poking stuff as he goes brh you know what's so funny as well I showed batch this someone one of you guys one of our listeners because cuz I you do it quite a lot but I do it all the time at you do the what yeah what that thing someone did a Tik Tok called whatting people in public so she goes into this petrol station goes to pay she goes like how much is that and he goes like Oh 1350 and she just goes what loud so loud just yells it in this man's face and everyone was like bad bad you guys have to recreate this it was so funny yeah and then Arthur was like we've got to do this we've got I don't know if I have the like what is it um social confidence to do that I'd be able to do it not yell it I thought it was a bit rude though the loud yelling not in a bad I'm not criticizing you I just able to do that like that myself I'd be like what I think sorry you got no no soup of the day what what when you have a camera on you though that you get a new found confidence in public like I found no no no in general I don't know if you agree with this in like a sidan video I Feel Like rules don't apply like social rules then don't apply cuz you've got a camer on you and you can do what you want whatever you want yeah I've only recently started being able to finally find it within myself to Vlog like when we were at wagas I was like this is actually fine yeah whereas before IID look at people vlogging in public and I go I admire you a lot cuz I can never do that it helps having people around you yeah although I feel like we do it with our phones it's a bit easier that's true whereas if people with their cameras out like facing their way I'm like oh my goodness I'd be so embarrassed yeah I think I would be as well especially if you got like a big rig on the end of that thing people are just admiring you your rig yeah both of them come on anyway um what speaking of the soap boxes that we saw um there was this one there was like these four guys like lying down chilling and they had this like Dome oh yeah which was kind of like a I guess like a spa you know the space shuttles that come down to earth it kind of looked a bit like that didn't yeah um like a landing module yeah like a landing module and they what did what did they make it off fiberglass or something yeah oh my God you could smell it from where we were still and they were like stick your head in that so we stuck it you stuck your head in first took a whiff and I did it afterwards oh my God dizzying genuinely dizzying I'm high I'm still high from that moment if anyone's ever been in like a a surfboard shop where they like make the surfboards yeah it smells like that it just smell exactly like that and they bizarre I just burped on I thought that was what that was that was disgusting hopefully that didn't get picked up apologize sorry guys sorry if you heard that cut that out anyway um it's not getting cut uh it they had to spend the whole run down in that thing so I think those guys are a little bit waved yeah I'm glad we I'm glad we were just a team of two and had two seats because I kind of felt bad some people that pushed the Soap Box thing down yeah like running after it for like 50 meters and it was a hot day that's true like um most people was like a team of four and two would push two would be in it I think that's standard isn't it to have two people in the so box and then a team that will push and Chase it down probably chase down chip and freezies yeah funny it was funny as well the way he was running because I guess it was like a it was like Looney Tunes the way he had his arms up like that chasing them down to be fair there are people I felt more bad for he talking about some of the injuries of the day oh my God and this is the thing like good gosh man we were already nervous then we were then we got to S see our um vehicle which they had made some mods to by the way so put me at ease a little bit they put foam in the place where my head would smash oh yeah so I felt about that yeah um they didn't they were going to cut out the wheel arches so we could turn more but they didn't I'm glad they I actually think that worked in our favor in it did um and they were actually slagging it off when it went up on towards stage they were speaking about it on Mike and they were like they can't turn properly they can't see over it and I was thinking oh no they're slagging off our thing they were talking about our buckets on the back and stuff I don't know if they were slagging off the buckets or just speaking about I just heard bucket like they're talking about ours oh my god um but it actually worked in favor and then there was screens up showing the first runs and it took a while it like an hour or two after we got there till the first run um but did you see the Sheep one no I didn't see any of the big ones but that's a bad one there was a sheep we I was watching a sheep go down um it was just before you did your stunt I think and it got all the way to the end and then at full speed flipped over onto their necks and I think it was one of them that broke their collarbone and it looked awful and after seeing that me and pieace was stood together we were like I we genuinely don't want to go down after seeing that he was [ __ ] it I was [ __ ] it um and then not only that I think other people must have like been bruised or whatever but the other big one that we heard about is we when we got to the start line we were there waiting for like 10 minutes and it was cuz the person who went down before us got knocked out so that's crazy yeah which I didn't see I don't think we'll ever see any footage of that but I don't know what vehicle it was or anything I just heard that they got knocked out that's why we were up there for ages yeah I mean it was going down insanely fast yeah it look I mean it looks quick on camera but it doesn't look nearly as quick as it feels yeah when you're in that thing oh my goodness and you can barely see in front of you you're bouncing all over the place you're hitting these jumps there are bits where there's foam that like splashes you in the face you have a few seconds of blindness yeah it's mental it it to best describe it definitely feels faster than sitting in a car at 60 MPH I'd say faster than it feels sitting in a car going 100 yeah cuz you're so exposed to we've never gone 100 I've been on the auto bar in Germany okay fair um but yeah you're exposed so it just feels so quick but we were quick insanely Qui insanely quick I think everyone we were the first of the creators to go up everyone thought we were going to just crash yeah or just be crap and slow there was so many comments so many DMs I got afterward was like [ __ ] fair enough before we even went down though before we get cuz we we will react we'll show you us going down yeah but I think we should tell them actually maybe should we hit play and then we'll pause at certain bits to be like explainer yeah I'll tell you what it plays it goes all the way through and then they do it in slow-mo afterwards we can on the slow-mo we'll do some explanation okay here we go batch and Arthur we had the podcast sticker oh it was such a good sticker on the side which was really cool and they zoomed in out loads for the YouTube video which is great yeah was all over the stream which was ideal although you cannot see podcast there until someone shads over it yeah someone's just shattering we were stood up there for ages genuinely yeah because someone had just been knocked out looking down this hill that was just so steep it's not funny but look at that thing that's so impressive it's so well built I can't believe it and I'm I'm gutted because I actually wanted to say to the we had a little bit of help from the Red Bull Engineers yeah I wanted to say thank you to them more just be like what did you see that that was really good yeah if anyone knows anything by any chance please pass on our thanks because yeah they they helped us hopefully they watched it and saw a great deal uh but we did do a lot I mean we did spend two full days building this thing and printing it up and stuff so yeah which you'll obviously see in the Vlog I'll talk about I'll talk about something later cuz there's um this was posted to Tik Tok and there's some funny comments on there really basically yeah basically calling us desk dwellers what so this is our performance so this performance we didn't know we no was supposed to do we we were told to choose a piece of music so we chose something like Space Odyssey style but we had no idea that meant we had to perform yeah and like like she's saying like there are points for performance and we knew about 10 minutes beforehand that this 30 second period of Music we'd have to Performance so we were like let's just do something simple gum shields in the mouth bow and get in and they were harsh they gave us a three but that also also counts to the way the vehicle looks so I think three is Harsh yeah but here we go performance score 22 poor but this is when we started racking up speed the steering was really weird as well cuz it changed as we got quicker and we were just bouncing as we went down like we'd hit a ramp and oh my goodness like almost front flipped that around we Whi around the corner and our our genuine one of our wings like clipped a ha Bell and just sliced through it that one sliced through the hay Bell I was thinking as we came down I swear I would have hit that side had I not hit that side and then nailed the braking and you said you could smell burnt rubber when you were breaking on that thing cuz I was like tickling the brakes like before a jump every now and then I do one all as we approached the chicane I pulled it yeah um but they said as we were going down in the commentary like yeah oh this feels fast usually you're hitting like low 20s here and it comes up on the side and we're hitting 30 km an hour yeah we were going and we were oh my goodness I'm glad you didn't break touch the break though we didn't need it yeah yeah I mean you did a did a little bit but I mean the others obviously touched it a lot more yeah I basically kept us at a speed where I was like this is very close to the line of like where we can make this corner at the speed because at the end of the day as a race and I was like we don't want to get up at the end and just be like oh like a couple of the soite boxes made it halfway down and just like stopped completely yeah and they were like having to like like I don't know like Shake It Forward it's so awkward like we did speak and we did say we'd actually rather crash going pretty quick than come to a grinding hle because it's just not good material yeah like we did it for Content wants to see that it's for a video we know representing creators at half time yeah so many people watching we've got a space shuttle that is designed at a velocity of 17,000 500 mph yeah so we were like you know hitting to be honest when they gave us those uh cuz we asked for special helmets that covered the face yeah when they gave me that I felt invincible and I thought oh [ __ ] it and we had gum Shields that we like ped poured into boiling water molded them before and molded them so we we felt pretty safe yeah I mean but still at 30 we weren but I don't have miles hour or kilm an hour I think it was mph I actually do really yeah but whatever it is at 30 like genuinely like just whacking your head against something solid is well I mean someone did get knocked out and broke it was terrifying yeah they they then do a slow-mo okay let's watch the slow-mo and we can break down exactly because I was thinking there was a point in the chicane when we really Whi round I was thinking why did that happen it was because the back right wheel wasn't on the ground when we were coming up to the chicane so when it touched the the ground it turned us into a corner so I was like [ __ ] and I had to spin it around one way and then back around the other way oh that's why we had that major wobble yeah and you can see it it's like it's cuz one of the wheels wasn't on the ground okay let's let's watch and like in the first one we'll try and go for the audio listeners kind of describe what we're seeing yeah so the first jump yeah we it was a heavy a heavy bit of Kit as well we definitely had one of the heavier ones it and it was like so we got through here the back that wheel wasn't on the ground so like had to correct it well the chicane of just having to go really quick left and then really quick right after yeah and then this pit we hit a bunch of stairs and bch basically grinds on the right hand of them it's cuz afterwards we had to be on the right hand side so I was thinking I can't turn directly after I'm going to have to turn on the ramp like the CL the the course is split in two with like steps on the left and straight on the right and we go down the steps but like half dangling off yeah you have a choice whether to do jumps or not obviously we were going to do the jumps cuz you get docked time um no they add time on if you go round cuz it's a bit unfair yeah but we you were just like let's head it yeah and after the first jump it it looks like we really jump around I don't know about you but in it it didn't feel that bad I I think I'm the exact opposite cuz I was going flying and my bum still Hur May was our positioning or cuz I was holding on to this when yeah I had nothing to hold on to I was just sat on a blue seat I re yeah I reckon that's what it was cuz it kept me like sort of planted you fix and you're in the center so with us like when when you go off the Jump the nose sort of goes down yeah it did and then the back col kicks up into the air and then slams down and because I'm at the back you really got you know I've got a lot further to fall and I just got whacked and my butt like when I sit on the sofa like no I can feel it bruised on I was actually un unscared I was absolutely fine yeah God it was um after that first jump though I got a lot more confidence in the run I was thinking oh that was fine I can we can do all the [ __ ] jumps yeah I just got full speed no I rate it I'm so glad you just sent it cuz and you I mean you didn't have a choice sending it yeah you just you na yeah exactly you could SL down but uh I they miked us did they mic you up CU they miked me up but I said nothing the whole run yeah why would you you couldn't because the thing is I was so focused I think it's because we went so quick because there's a Red Bull posted a video on their Tik Tok page where because they miked up chip and freezy and um it's off chip speaking to freezy and he's like on the brakes off the brakes okay we're going to go around this now and I think it's CU they were using the brakes and communicating about the brakes that they had stuff to say but because we were just you told me before you weren't going to touch the brake so I thought okay he's really not there's no point saying anything and you know whether it's a Brak or not so I was just thinking I'm just going to drive I was literally only thinking like I'm only going to slow us down if I feel like at this speed we either can't hit that jump properly or can't go around the corner and I was just tickling it and it was only at the end like I was like I've got to wait until we cross the finish line before I can break and I just Ram it and because it was a friction break it's like literally a metal bar that just pulls down onto both of the rear wheels it just starts smelling like burning rubber actually nailed that was so good though cuz we literally landed after that last jump we landed and I was like [ __ ] the Finish is right there and all I could hear was I just knew he pulled that thing so hard we came around the corner and didn't touch a single thing because he broke just in time yeah and the thing was untouched like the they said they it could get sent back to one of us so I send it to my house um I got I didn't tell you this yet I got a DM from someone saying I'm just about to watch your soap box get destroyed what no it's been graveyard we took it to a graveyard but we put it to one side no they told us we could have it uh yeah oh the guy might be lying I I pray he is cuz that's so harsh but I saw it in the DM request I was like [ __ ] surely not we should M message Adam but I think a big part of the reason we couldn't speak or do much else is because we weren't so full s we did that in 36 seconds chip and freezy were the second fastest in our group I think and they were 44 seconds yeah so we were we were literally seven or eight seconds I mean I don't exactly know what their milliseconds were but we were seven or eight seconds faster than them and I mean the difference like you watch them go down and they're sort of doing a decent speed but I thought them being go- karters you know they've got their Senor frogs they race every year yeah I was like they're going to bomb it too yeah but they kind of just played it relatively safe I mean good time time but like I do think we we absolutely Center and we had this guy come up to us at the end like should you say yeah say and this guy comes up to us and go don't like freak out now or anything um but we're checking because we genuinely think this was one of the fastest of all time yeah like fastest soap boxes ever he thought we hit the world record run right there and then and they cuz they had to check them by the millisecond yeah and we were a fraction of a second off being the fastest ever 1 18 of a second something something ridiculous like that and uh so I think we were either the second or the third fastest of all time yeah there were rumors at the end of the day and I don't know whether it was Chip just winding us up being like the last car of the day was slightly faster yeah they they yeah they said something like the last car of the day actually broke the world record so if that is true we're the third fastest of all time if not we are the second fastest of all time to go down that track and we rather the second of the first fastest of this year's event which is just just the coolest thing ever like we to be fair have also like we couldn't have picked a design that was Better Built For Speed I mean it's so people were saying this is this is aerodynamic and I was thinking it is but I don't think it's going to make that much of a difference in this yeah scenario and whether it did or not or whether it was just the fact that you didn't break much yeah I think that was it it was quite heavy it was heavy as well you had one of the heavy ones so at the start you can tell this was one of the things we were saying we should have got two people cuz we only got Jake to shove us at the start yeah and when when you start off just going down the ramp it took us a while to pick up speed if we had sort of been shoved and started at a really good pace and kept it at that pace I genely think we could have built the record but I'm I want to do it again same that's why I wanted to keep that cuz we could have just modified that and send it down we know that's a winning formula yeah make it into a submarine or something yeah exactly that thing works but Red Bull like they they we had such a great time with them they did so much for us and we were so grateful and we were speaking see nothing guaranteed and stuff um but they were saying there's a potential for us to come back and maybe do the one that you know you launch off a ramp and you're like 10 m up whatever and you've got to Glide over water as far as possible there and there are loads of other sort of like cool Red Bull events and stuff to do so um yeah I think we make this a thing if we can do just more of this stuff yeah I loved it it was genuinely one of the best things I've ever done I think yeah and there's a the the the only annoying thing is there's so much footage it's going to take a while to get the video together because Red Bull have Clips we have clips they've sent us a hard driver clipse I've got stuff on my phone B has stuff on his phone Jake has stuff on his phone so we'll gather it all together but when the video comes out I think it'll be such a good one because so good the whole experience was just the coolest thing ever and we couldn't be more grateful to Red Bull for that the perfect run at the end we just ended it so perfectly the whole experience I think yeah it couldn't have gone better afterwards I so cool yeah I couldn't get the helmet off though we got to the very end I could not figure out how to unclip the helmet so I did the interview with a helmet on yeah they could not hear thing as well you hear me go oh the atmosphere was electric and I know he said the electric thing and then we um yeah we Kenny from South Park hanging out with us we to I finally I got someone to take my helmet off we drove the soap box down to the graveyard thing but they said they weren't going to break it we put it to one side it might be broken and then we had to run up the hill because we had to get on the live stream to do an interview straight afterwards yeah and oh my God you realize how far we came down Running Up That thing that it was 400 to 500 M back up a relatively Steep Hill on a very hot day we were exhausted from the day before and uh being out the night before and having the race and all that kind of stuff and in boiler suits and it was a hot day boiling I got so sweaty at the top we got to the top and we were like that was just a thoroughly unenjoyable experience but it was cool cuz there I heard I don't I think I told you at the time I heard a kid as we ran past he was like oh my God racers felt like an F1 driver in that moment yeah that really went straight to my head yeah I bet we felt a lot cooler than we probably looked just running around in boiler suits and I'm my Red Bull cap on we had shades on surprised he hasn't got that red bull cap on today by the way that thing you're going to have to peel that off his dead body I've been wearing it so much lady just cuz I I love it it's good for green screen stuff that is the one thing I I might start wearing cuts out the wispy hair yeah it cuts out the wispy hair which kind of ruin the illusion I've got that real issue whereas when you wear a cap it's like a smooth round thing and the green screen just looks much better I see my editors have all been like wear a cap as often as possible oh so they even so they tell you what to do huh you're not Char they do interesting well I keep my editors locked away and then I give them footage and they're like please I want to see my family please share an editor now no King yeah we do shout out king great honestly fantastic worker his work ethic he sent me a video and like couple hours later he was like actually here's a V2 I watched it back and I I could see some improvements I was like kind of mentality and he's not been editing for long either yeah so he's I think all selft talk cow's amazing as well they're both just great honestly yeah people listening a fascinated here about how much we love our tives yeah let's get back to the Red Bull so box race so then we did our interview at the very top which is when cuz we went down first so we were Then followed by all the other creators who did the race um we didn't really get to see them at the time cuz we were running up the the bloody Hill but um we got to the top they all slowly joined us did their interview and then it got revealed the scores so there were different categories we were like ranked on or scored on the first being performance and I I'm pretty sure the style of the cart comes into that as well yeah and so we what did we get like what was it 20 22 it was really bad 40 terrible score we got like a seven a six a three and a five something like that whoever gave us a three what's wrong with you huh they were grumpy though cuz I think chip and frezy got something like 39 and the guy that person gave them a nine apparently they were really mean scoring the whole time that's crazy but chip and fzy knew about the performance thing which we I know how they knew about that we had no idea chip and freezy raced as a box of 20 chicken McNuggets yeah and they brought like homemade barbecue sauce and just on each other yeah pry just poured it all over them it was good like as performances go that's like the best thing you can do yeah so they got a really great score like almost perfect just one guy dropped a mark on it um 39 out 40 but I feel like I feel like giving us a three was really harsh I know our performance wasn't great but the music was very fitting yeah and maybe we should have pretended we were on the moon with our jumping or something like walking like that he just had such a cool carard we had so little time to think about it yeah I feel like it was harsh though look at our car that was really cool yeah maybe we were also ranked harshly because we were the first creators to go down maybe maybe we would have got a better score if we were towards the end I don't know yeah maybe but um yeah we did really bad on that and then you get obviously score for your speed in finishing the race yeah which we smashed Everyone by like four four seconds or something or seven or eight yeah like seven or eight seconds Quicks first to second and the second fastest and I think Becky and pieace got a dnf finish either they hit a minute or they stopped completely yeah cuz they went over one of the jumps and then front end broke so the wheel wasn't really like or the front was touching the floor dragging across the floor so they just I felt bad for them they just ped all across but at least they got down in one piece that's the they were just in a pint glass yeah it was really cool and they had a they had a cool performance Becky poured pint on um pie which was funny um con and Jack had a cool performance they just had some Swagger about it like yeah it was cool oh yeah we got picked on the performance but they did struggle getting into the vehicle did they yeah CU it's really hard and narrow to get in um they got they everyone got all the way to the end by the way Colin Jack fell over at the end there thing just went on its side they they chose thinner Wheels I didn't think they were going to make it that far yeah they also had a really high center of gravity cuz their car was thin and quite tall yeah like if you looked at their car it looked like it wanted to fall over it was a bit like chitty chitty bang bang but like elongated yeah so they did really well to and they were drifting it as well it was drifting so they did really well to get to the bottom um but yeah we were like seven seconds quicker than seven or eight seconds quicker than the second fastest which was it chip and freezy or was it Con I think it might have been no chip and frezy was Heavy wasn't it to be fair so that would move um and then there was People's Choice which we said we won 49% and was those were those those three so I think the reason so we ended up coming third we came third out of the four I just think it wasn't like cuz we won two out of three categories you'd think we'd win but I think they gave they were sort of like weighted yeah so because we were so low on the performance us being ahead on the other two bits didn't pull us up enough I think it's really harsh I think it doesn't matter at all by the way I don't I don't care but I do think it's harsh that performance is weighted so heavily in comparison to like speed has got to be the most important thing yeah like it's a race I know that's that's the way we were looking at it that's because it's a race come on we were focus on the race as aspect obviously soap boxes isn't Formula 1 is supposed to be like a bit of fun cretive stuff which you do get um but yeah hard winning two out of three categories and winning the race comfortably well it was more like at in the moment when they were revealing who won out of us four I was thinking in my head oh we've definitely won yeah after winning we got like 50% of the votes for People's Choice so it was a landslide Victory they said and a landslide Victory on the speed so I was thinking we have smashed those two things so surely we've gained loads of points for that yeah and we came third I was like I'm actually quite shocked by that I in my head I was thinking oh my God we've won yeah but um no it was so means anything like there's I don't there's nothing for it yeah I was just surprised but genuinely so it was so good yeah it was it was definitely definitely one of the best things I've ever done I was so glad that we did it I can't wait for the proper video to come out and have it all like a documentary s of documented archive just being like Oh I can look back at that video that was a banger yeah oh it was it was really good um then we stuck around and watched some public racing um and yeah there was it was it was nice there was a nice like area where you could get food and stuff and the worms showed up oh yeah lots of the patreon supporters a couple of N and non patreon people showed up lots of podcast people I'm guessing everyone there was podcast listeners because I didn't really put it on any platform no I think it it was all podcast we spoken about on the on on the podcast and in the patreon group chat quite a lot yeah and that was pretty much it so thank you well regardless if it's yeah thank you guys for coming along cuz it was so nice speaking to everyone great really great to have your support um yeah and yeah you guys were there for most of the day just like stood by our um what do you call it Soap Box stood by our Soap Box we were coming over when we could to say hi and stuff yeah everyone got photos we oh my goodness quite a lot of people wanted us to draw tattoos for them oh dear and we are not artistic no we're close yeah I'm a letter away but I not draw sa in my life and I was like the only thing I could think of was the rocket emoji yeah that was pretty good to be fair I was trying to draw them but getting the three little things at the bottom and the fire I was like I was like show this to your artist and they'll get what I'm trying to draw yeah they'll understand I mean I just ended up drawing flowers CU it's the easiest thing to draw it's got nothing to do with me a lot of art what just happened you just got bored of your own conversation I just yawned I was hoping you take it off me really quickly cuz I yawned no someone asked for a cameo once where they were like can you draw something for us to do a tattoo and I did a a ringed planet oh nice and oh my goodness trying to get cuz obviously if you put the circle there first the ring that goes in front like cuts through lines and it looks crap so you've kind of got to start with the ring but obviously just as the ring curves back around you have to stop and then you have to imagine where the sphere is going to be and oh my goodness I burnt through about half this notebook trying to get one that just looks semi-reasonable so whoever invented Saturn fair enough yeah exactly that must have been difficult and Uranus yep that's also ringed yeah um many too many rings yeah I've got a ring do you oh yeah and that weekend batch proposed to me so I said yes no I'm talking about my ass what anyway um it was it was a different kind of proposition to the one you were thinking of yours is way cuter than mine and I said no oh hell no I just got that that's disgusting cuz I was like on Saturday night we were just chilling we were like go we're exhausted yeah and I was like do you want to just stay around and Bach was like yeah so we played fornite and watch scary movies yeah he took me to get sushi again yeah we went to sticks and Sushi again but I was like I kind of want to make more videos but we were just so tired yeah I it was too late you just what you made me watch horror stuff we we watched a bunch of scary videos on YouTube like real ghost sightings and short horror movies and I was like I've wanted to do videos like that with you ages I was like then was the perfect time but our energy was just shock yeah we'll do it we'll definitely do it another time though CU people just love that love that horror game yeah is entertaining to watch other people get scared people don't want to watch you have fun they want to watch you cringe and be scared people enjoyed us having fun of Minecraft true but you were scared of I died like five six times I'm not very good clearly everyone's making fun of me did I die once I didn't I don't think no but your spirit died at one point hell no my spirit my spirit was always my spirit were through the roof um when I was getting attacked by Leona Lewis and I was hiding in the house turns out Leona Lewis can't go in water so I should have just gone in water I saw that comment yeah thanks for that thanks for the comment I'm actually going to use that logic and I I already want to film episode three right now do you yeah it was so fun we'll do it this week actually it's so fun like I enjoy playing it we're just loading up M fil although he needs a he needs a setup can we can we tell this boy to put some money towards a proper setup he plays on his PlayStation so we have to play Bedrock Edition so I can't use my nice shaders that make the waters and everything look clean and all the like graphics and stuff you know the like it's T's water we're keeping it the graphics upgrades are insane look just just a bit enjoy a humble bit of like Minecraft where it's nostalgic not everything has to be polished yeah okay fine um but no it was it was really good fun and it is it is I do love that we can just do that kind of stuff and just play a game and it would be fun yeah um we can just like high five when we want yeah anyway um back to let's go back in time to um the end of the race he wet himself no he didn't he didn't no he didn't but um I just want to make sure that we covered everything no because we didn't speak about um the stunt the stunts oh yeah you should tell them about the stunt they they just flung on you they didn't tell you until yeah they didn't tell me about this before and they made me sign my rights away yeah and it it was they had already Ked off the live stream so you just had to do it yeah um we basically batch got nice one he got pulled aside and they were like oh is the driver we're testing your reflexes yeah and what did they do they so she dropped a ruler and you just had to grab the ruler um as soon as she dropped it and just see how many centimeters you let drop to judge your reaction time I didn't do I think I came second actually nice but on the practice I failed uh so I was like oh that was nice and peaceful and fun I wonder what mine's going to be and they get me and they they I put this heart monitor on and I was like what they put this heart monitor on me put me in the middle of this cage and this dude called like Douglas or something comes up in this massive dirt bike and just goes like I'll lie down in the middle and I was like I know exactly where this is going got R to me and Jack just start planking and he's sort of in this giant he giant of a man I swear he's like 6'4 in this massive dirt bike and he's sort of there like on one wheel bouncing the like wheel like an inch from my head and I'm like if he just if anything misjudges he crushes my skull yeah like we we we lose one of the Bright Young talents of this generation and you as well wait what do you mean well they'd get Jack and you oh yeah yeah good old Jack and then then he was doing like wheelies around your head like just driving past full speed past his head yeah it was giving me the E actually see lie down there insane and I was just like well I'm playing it cool cuz that's like the name of the game it'd be cringe if I got up and I mean they they even said that if you get up you're at risk of just getting your head whacked cuz he's like an inch within your head so if you move it until you die yeah um and for like a minute he just did this and bounced around and yeah you were down there for a hot minute yeah we were there for ages just getting driven around I thought oh this is just getting this is just cruel now yeah I mean the poor boy is just lying there with a boner by the way uh because he gets that happens when he gets scared just why you think I keep getting you for horror games oh no i h on a Bo so he's just doing circling circling circling around Arthur on the floor it just I just felt a bit sorry for him in the end yeah uh so that was terrifying but good F night you know I'm up for anything I did realized the other day I'm just one of his friends who's just up for thing yeah you are actually someone could be like hey we're going to sit inside and watch movies tonight I be like fine or they can be like come on man we're robbing a bank I'm like cool they'll be like come on going glamping for the weekend do you is that real though if I said or okay let's go and watch the Euros tonight fine let's do it England England this is the last night of the group stage and all of a sudden the mood is really dead because we're just through now we've not played well either it's been pathetic there I said it and Harry Kane when you finally come on this podcast I've got some strong words to have with you mine mine Reserve is Gareth Southgate and not bringing BR and not playing kobby Mayu okay sorry Harry Kane actually way he's playing phenomenally to be not as if we're missing him but I'm mad at you Southgate yeah Italy um not playing too bad oh my goodness you're Italian did you watch the game last night and they scored the 90th plus eight to go through 98th minute it was the draw against Croatia oh that was heartbreaking poor the thing is they probably would have gone through anyway as one of the people third but um it's nice to confirm it you know yeah those moments of elation just so hard I think Italy just like a decent Striker anyway we won't bore you with football because a lot of people probably don't care about football yeah um but yeah I mean I'm getting into F1 now yes you are you watch drive to survive right yeah I've been watching drive to surv I need to get on that I really want to watch that um and hence why the Red Bull so box race I was really in I was really in my element Because You Loved does it make you love Red Bull as well the driver to survive does it follow a particular team it follows the mall and to be honest I haven't really got like a team I really um it's not like I really want to see this team win it's more people that you care about it's good to see Red Bull doing well but um I like Lando do you yeah you're Lando Norris enjoyer I'm a Lando enjoyer I like them all to be fair from what I've seen I like I get I like Char all oh cuz he kind he kind of looks like Charles mclair uh yeah I get uh Lando Norris a lot people always say like L nor I'm not sure about that boy and uh obviously like V stappen red the Red Bull goat what batch V stappen high five what does that even mean batch for steppen me batch for steppen batch for steppen me instead of Max for Sten batch for Sten it's one of the only times that batch really goes into anything batch for Sten what do people nickname you at school get tuna boy cuz I've brought in tuna fish boy uh right I was going duckling I was going for more names like name related like okay because I was oh name related I was I was called nothing I was just called Arthur I don't know why I said it like that I was called Nothing me yeah had no friends at school no I didn't really people would say ice as a joke ice yeah I just I didn't like not having a cool nickname name my sister one of my sisters calls me Izzy that's really cringe and feminine yo she watches these which is fine yo she watches these apologize down the lens right now I apologize nothing cuz it is it was true it was my truly held opinion and you should never apologize for being yourself sometimes she calls me Elizabeth as well what and I don't really know where she got that from she started that was a good what what yeah she watches it where she works as she was working she'll have it on Gizzy by the way I didn't get cancelled for what Sunday came out where I waterboarded Chris I haven't watched that and I was seriously worried I was genuinely like I thought you know just some people on the internet can be real yeah cuz they might be like oh you're making fun of water boarding people actually die from water boarding that's not what I exactly what I meant oh because okay you can't waterboard Chris because he doesn't like water and some people have been drowned before no okay of course because because you shouldn't do water boarding because it's like saying this is something you should it's really on impressionable fans and they'll be like okay I'm going to water board my mom tonight right maybe maybe that was like oh you shouldn't do that on to an impression I'm going to cancel you right now in that case um but no I I I just thought people would be like oh that was so mean of him they're not friends like just you know when you don't really know I mean obviously anyone who's seen Chris and videos knows how much abuse he puts me through I mean that guy abuse shs down on my neck like there's no tomorrow he's just I I'll just be chilling mid shootting he'll just go on my traps I mean granted they're juicy like they're nice muscular defined um have you ever thought you might just be a vampire I don't know hiding in plain sight you know you've got two Pierce marks right there you getting sucked by you've got really garlicky breath so I don't think I could be a a vampire cuz otherwise let's not start rumors like that otherwise I'd run there's not start rumors like that yeah my breath smells like daisies rainbows fairy tales I'm always chewing gum you are always chewing gum you're a real gum chewer yeah it Bo it boosts your confidence it's like putting a pair of sunglasses on I'm glad you don't do it on the podcast that would be the most annoying thing to listen to I have done it before but I just tuck it into my teeth like snz you don't mean that it's gum you don't mean that it's gum it's just weird you don't mean that it's gum gum started freaking out you know we were speaking about eggs the other day when you you're Midway through eating heads and you're like wait up yeah that's a period something ain't right that's a menstrual cycle raor and you're like yeah well that weirdly makes me like it more it's more than I knew you were a feminist me too come on yeah um we do like to bring awareness to the fact that women exist and have Cycles cuz I I I mentioned menstrual cycles all the time and I in one of my YouTube videos I was like I've got to stop saying menstrual cycles drop a comment if you think I should stop saying menual cycle everyone's like no and someone's like no it actually feels kind of feminist in a weird way cuz you're bringing light to the fact of cuz not everyone knows that women have I think everyone knows women have periods I found out 3 days ago watching your video you thought they had penis what I just thought they merely existed they merely exist in a in a realm Between Heaven and Hell where somewhere I love doesn't exist what the hell is this guy talking about women only exist in heaven women are heaven on Earth in my opinion how does that song Go heaven heaven for what it's worth women are heaven on Earth women are heaven on Earth brother in Christ you don't know what you're talking about right now I feel like we're getting on to Serious brain rot have you got anything else this is a rare batch prepared actually been praying preparing a lot um all of the episodes lately we've actually yeah hence why the quality's increased um no you just you do stuff in a different way I like like reading and talking reading well next episode's prepared by by Arthur and we'll be filming this directly after this one yeah we're doing complet transparency cuz batch is way on holiday and I'm going to be honest because I'm not I've not brought a spare pair of clothes anyway yeah me neither I don't want to hear no comments like why is he wearing that shirt again well they should be comenting CU alth this on an episode before quite frankly Arthur is either can I just say by the way I predicted what you were going to be wearing on the Red Bull meal I said Arthur will turn up in Black corduroy shorts um and a cream beige top shirt either worn as an overshirt with a white t-shirt underneath or just a shirt that's exactly what you were that's true I mean I have two other pairs of shorts I had a black like pair that were like had textured but the waistband thing snapped hard to find a good pair of shorts and then I had a nice like cream beige pair yeah um but they were just like I don't know linen and just ended up being a bit too and take it from a guy a sleepover with him he doesn't take them off he showers in them he goes me to take them off he was like take them off take them off take them off and I was like leave me alone yeah I was like please wash please wash you were just misreading me I wasn't saying take them off I was like please wash please wash anyway I I got the um I went into the patreon chat o uh little plug if you want to join the patreon go ahead there's a chat you get early access to episodes they get uploaded all the time and Bullies me in it yeah I do speak in there a fair amount um and I said to them we're filming two pods today can you guys reply to this message with any questions you have about the Red Bull Soapbox race we're going to be doing a whole episode on it uh because I thought there might be you know they might want to know more information on how it was built or how we were feeling and stuff and we could just give us some insight to that we've just explained the day how cool it was blah blah blah but they want to know the BTS let's see how insightful their questions can be okay did you hurt your nose that's [ __ ] rude no I didn't that obviously pointed at you no I didn't to be fair I did we had said in an episode prior that there was no foam and we are going to smash our faces in they put foam in we had good helmets on but we didn't actually crash so yeah we didn't crash so although his coxic bone is in pain yeah my coxics I'm absolutely fine because I'm not weak that's your tailbone um may ask for us highly evolved Apes that was from Brooke by the way I'll say names shout outs May says how SL why did you decide to build a rocket why I guess cuz it's very on brand for us have a look at our mugs yep yeah I mean we're just we're were're a Spacey themed podcast for no apparent reason we genely I'm sure we said in the earlier episodes we had no plans to be themed and bats just randomly one day went let's just make it space themed I just think it's cool yeah me I just think we both think it's cool we do we just need a cool set I think most of the things we do is because we think oh that's cool like the Soap Box we thought oh it'd be cool if we did a a ship or a ufi yeah just cuz it just cuz it's funny someone actually messaged in for the next one I've got like the submissions from the normal submissions page which everyone can enter just go to our any of our socials at Bach and arur and in the link there's like a a link tree and one of them is the submissions form and they were like what is your target audience because I can't really figure it out and I'm studying media at the moment target audience is such a big thing and I was like we don't have one we just come on talk about whatever we find interesting yeah and just hope that some people agree yeah and the people who do listen are actually very um diverse yeah and intelligent and cool and good looking and all this yeah um so yeah no um yeah and it's weird because we're not sitting there going oh let's talk about this to appeal to this audience which I think is I mean somehow it works so thank you guys for tuning into thanks cuz I think if you analyzed it in like a media class and it was like oh one minute you're doing brain rot meme references and the next you're talking about s men and then the next we're talking about Greek philosophy and the next one like Roman Parables and then religion they'd be like well someone's going to listen to the one episode like it and then not like the rest yeah but for some reason people just like listening to it all really I think we just decided that we're just going to do what we want like yeah whatever we enjoy yeah like whatever we enjoy and whatever we F feel like talking about we're just going to do it because if you want to enjoy something you've like if you want this if we want this podcast to continue we've got to enjoy it and if we're looking at it tactically like Oh Let's do an episode on this so we can boost our audience in this demographic it will start to feel like a like a real job well like you know I've heard from other people that do podcasts that their producers will be like today you're having this guest on and they're like well I've never watched the show they're on or Never follow them don't care about the story but I've got to do it's nice that we kind of have a just able to just go oh whatever and I do think the stuff we talk about is interesting broadly like if you're someone who like whenever we meet or speak to anyone who watches the podcast they're always like oh I love like these types of interesting discussions I feel like if you have a generally curious mind yeah like if if people who are listening to this and enjoy it are going to be similar to us in that respect and they you know even if they don't have a an interest in any of the particular like they might be like oh I love hearing about religion I'm a curious person but they don't care about Greek philosophy yeah or anything when we speak about the ship of thesis they're still like oh it's an interesting thought like it's an interesting thought so if you're one of those types of people like us then all that kind of stuff is interesting I guess thus our our demographic is people who just have similar interests to us yeah or like have a similar outlook on life or yeah that's the thing it's not even like it's just it's the broad value of curiosity I think who just like they like to laugh they like a bit of Comedy cuz we even get people who disagree with us and they're like oh I'm religious I completely disagree with this all but it was so interesting to listen to and so they're not listening because we're speaking about things that they find um they agree with or they enjoy you know but they're going like oh like I like the way these topics are approached or the way this is discussed and yeah so yeah hopefully we'll try and keep that up um hey no way we're going to brain Rock 24/7 after here or no anyway um Connie asked what was your top speed we don't actually know but what did you think it was 30 well when we passed we passed the speed gate at what will be one of the fastest points and that was 30 okay mil K yeah km pH um Leia says do you think you were going to make it to the Finish Line did you think you were going to make it to the Finish Line I genuinely um did not think we were going to make it past the chicane to be honest yeah cuz I didn't realize the course was as wide as it was however the as narrow as it was you mean actually yeah yes and no the thing is it's like driving a car when you're in a car it looks like you're you're bigger than the road but actually you can fit in much smaller of a gap than you expect yourself to be able to and so when you're actually in the soap box when we were doing the chicane in my head I thought we're going to catch one of the hay bals and go flying but actually although it was actually pretty close watching it back it felt like I had enough room to get round and stuff well two hay bals we did fully slic through well yeah if the wings were like flat fronted we would have we could have just spun out flown but because the wings were just like yeah we the first one and then the second one we through that yeah um but in no I didn't think we were going to make it down in one piece to be honest I thought either we'd get to the end and there' be damage or we'd fall over at the end or we just wouldn't make it to the end cuz it's not a like it more often than not you don't make it to the end yeah so I thought statistically I didn't I didn't think we were going to make it to the end so I was surprised were you or not it's so funny because at the start you're like I really don't know but be when you're going down it's so fast and you've got to think a lot like yeah I was just constantly thinking like just monitoring whether we were going too fast or not to be like bring the speed down ever so slightly and it's everything's happening so fast you don't have time to think oh are we going to make it like any hypotheticals it's just uh pull the break break on break off break off oh my goodness are we going to make this corner are we going to too fast at how are we doing like all this kind of stuff's rushing through your head I didn't even think about it I was no so yeah I had no thoughts in my head either I think we were just on reflex at that point yeah because every yeah like Arthur said everything's coming at you so quick like before the chane I thought I had enough time to put my hand up and wave and I was like [ __ ] no I don't yeah so that's when I came back onto the wheel and did that so we really don't have much time in that thing um then Phoenix asks what was the hardest and easiest part of the creative process oh hard po was coming up with an idea for what we wanted to do as the car because we took ages like they were asking us for the design for so long and we were like we really don't know it is hard when you can do literally anything it's like the classic situation where you've got too much Choice yeah so you can't make a decision and neither necessarily creative creative types yeah so we and also it's it's difficult as well when there's two people because obviously if one person wants to do something we we agreed yeah we we didn't have any friction on what we wanted to do we because we both didn't really have an idea but you've got to make sure that what one person comes up with the other person's happy to do um but I think from the go we just suggested either a space shuttle or UFO we were both happy with those two ideas and then we had a look at some pictures and we thought okay let's go for a space sh that was it yeah so I think that um it was hard in the beginning but to to be honest the decision process was pretty easy for us in the end I do think the hardest part although that was hard I think what was harder for us was probably um building the chassis don't you think it was harder than the woodwork yeah that's probably true cuz we didn't have any engineer assistance with the underly car yeah the actual chassis itself we just had bits like we didn't have instructions for half of it we were in in a big Warehouse with just a bunch of nuts bolts rods	on Mike and they were like they can't turn properly they can't see over it and I was thinking oh no they're slagging off our thing they were talking about our buckets on the back and stuff I don't know if they were slagging off the buckets or just speaking about I just heard bucket like they're talking about ours oh my god um but it actually worked in favor and then there was screens up showing the first runs and it took a while it like an hour or two after we got there till the first run um but did you see the Sheep one no I didn't see any of the big ones but that's a bad one there was a sheep we I was watching a sheep go down um it was just before you did your stunt I think and it got all the way to the end and then at full speed flipped over onto their necks and I think it was one of them that broke their collarbone and it looked awful and after seeing that me and pieace was stood together we were like I we genuinely don't want to go down after seeing that he was [ __ ] it I was [ __ ] it um and then not only that I think other people must have like been bruised or whatever but the other big one that we heard about is we when we got to the start line	-2	6	-5	on Mike and they were like they can't turn properly they can't see over it and I was thinking oh no they're slagging off our thing they were talking about our buckets on the back and stuff I don't know if they were slagging off the buckets or just speaking about I just heard bucket like they're talking about ours oh my god um but it actually worked in favor and then there was screens up showing the first runs and it took a while it like an hour or two after we got there till the first run um but did you see the Sheep one no I didn't see any of the big ones but that's a bad one there was a sheep we I was watching a sheep go down um it was just before you did your stunt I think and it got all the way to the end and then at full speed flipped over onto their necks and I think it was one of them that broke their collarbone and it looked awful and after seeing that me and pieace was stood together we were like I we genuinely don't want to go down after seeing that he was [ __ ] it I was [ __ ] it um and then not only that I think other people must have like been bruised or whatever but the other big one 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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0g_xJvKEb8	4,108	-0g_xJvKEb8	2024-06-27 00:00:00	[Music] what's up everybody welcome back to episode 14 of the batch and Arthur podcast yay go thanks for joining everyone we have something to reveal yes we do I know you guys don't like it when Arthur has his mug on the couch because he tends to drop things don't you never dropped anything actually okay you dropped that th done remember that well you might have noticed I also have my mug on the sofa mhm wondering why who wants to know why should we tell them something to do with one like equals one Lara maybe something to do with that exactly you guys ready see what you reveal go way for audio listeners we have white mugs with our little cartoon characters on them that's right little will I didn't want to Cheers you and I've got my little handsome space guy come on yeah Lara surprised us with these this is a gift um mine shatterproof as well apparently oh it's not sh yeah he's got a plastic mug because we know what he's like I've sippy C the audio listeners actually little rubber cppy cup with two handles well actually when Arthur drinks from a mug show them how you do it I'll I'll commentate for this he uses two hands so he grabs on the like handle and then he grabs the other hand I drink everything with two hands especially tea and Pints yeah I don't really know what is there a reason for that or not safety I guess twice as balanced is that really if one arm stops working the other one's there as a fail safe well there you go that's why he does it guys so it makes sense all after all yeah um speaking of batch and Arthur this podcast design right here yeah this has been plasted on something recently what our rocket ship oh yeah guys we just got back from the Red Bull Soap Box race and we're alive 2024 we genuinely were not sure we were going to survive no I was but we did really scared we we turned up we got to see other people's cards um and there was basically two things going on so there's like a public race and then the Creator race was like a separate thing which is streamed on YouTube If you go on Red Bull's um YouTube channel and you go on under the live tab you can actually watch the full thing yeah we were like a half time race yeah it was Bas half time show yeah there was a few people who weren't happy about the Creator's uh racing cuz they thought we were mixed in with the public but it's like a whole separate thing like we can't win any awards over the public or anything like that yeah um but but we won the hearts of the public come on yeah we did win the hearts of the public there was a a couple of things that you were like rated on as creators and one of them was People's Choice and we got a landslide victory of 44% yeah it actually ended up on 49% 50% out of four teams we got 49 everyone rounds 49 thank you to everyone who voted for us we one of four teams but we're up against chip and freezy who have a big loving audience Becky and pieace who audience and then con from the siden huge loving audience and the guy who's our cameraman on the train video the siden that's right Jack was there as well went to with con they had cool out but uh we we got to Ali p uh that's my first time there you've been there before actually I think we should start the day before okay let's let's reel that [ __ ] back because we had another sleepover kind of yeah we did have another let's just say oh no we didn't really a hotel yeah we did not have a sleepover but what did we do where did we first meet we we met at the we met at the hotel at the hotel dropped our bags off Adam was there he's the Red Bull guy that was been looking after us and he took all the creators out to dinner yeah we to find the tell first yeah chopped a pint um both hands come on yeah then we got in a taxi we went to dinner we had a create a dinner um what did you eat pizza yeah I had a really really hot hot pizza but the thing I was enjoying the most was the football we had a massive screen in front of us oh yeah cuz France were playing Netherlands NE scen I felt kind of harsh cuz the the table was positioned in a way that only half of us could see the football and the other half were just watching us watching football yeah but no he they were watching a react video basically they got to see us live reacting In the Flesh um but the meal was really good the food was really good uh Jake was struggling Jake the guy works with um Arthur they both got the same Pizza he was struggling with the heat yeah he was [ __ ] [ __ ] struggling with the Pint as well got two pints steep was steaming no cuz he was so in denial Jake yeah Jake had a couple pints and he was gone we were like you are drunk he like I am not drunk and he was getting angry mad I'm not even drunk he's I haven't even done anything later he's doing karaoke so that's belting out karaoke with his phone to the to the mic with with voice note on my God it's so that was you singing those Tunes to someone yeah we yeah CU you've been to a place before should we say the name of the place or not I actually I don't remember it anyway okay we went to this place anyway Arthur's been there before it's um like a karaoke bar with uh like an arcade and bowling and there's a dance floor and like a bar and stuff like that yeah very good fun we all went there did some karaoke went there for Arthur Hill's birthday that's how I found out about it what a place it is a cool place actually um yeah did a bit of karaoke we were in there for a couple hours doing karaoke in the end yeah um belting at tunes by the way batch can sing No Arthur can sing yeah but I think people would assume that from but that goes without saying no but but Frank Sinatra came on and oh my goodness batch was just cooking that thing anyone can sing Frank arra welcome back Frank Sinatra he died and this is him reborn wasn't wasn't he heavily involved with the mafia Frank Sinatra so are you you're a quter Italian that's true but I can't admit that no not legally anyway oops they're going to come and get me try and come and get me watch me beat beat you all up actually I shouldn't say what if they do don't come and get me please I was just kidding I've got nothing to do with him he lives on 32 Italian back street oh my god that actually is my house number H what don't say that it's not that's my apartment number as well no we you're not finding out where we live um I'm going to move in with Arthur anyway we moved in together on Minecraft yeah sort of anyway back to karaoke we had fun at karaoke then we went home we didn't get back till 3:00 a.m. silly move because we had to be up early yeah we had it well not that early we had 10: a.m. taxi picks up yeah but we met at breakfast at 9:30 it was the most romantic breakfast of my life yeah um and then stayed at the Hilton Red Bull of class they put us in there they also like what a lovely experience not only did they take us to dinner they they paid for karaoke and everything like that they covered everything shout out to Red Ball I'm going to crack One open right now and they're actually delicious all these colored red balls my actual favorite is the summer edition you guys should actually try this this is not sponsored but I'm just saying this is not even the first thing I I did I went to salburg in Austria and did some Red Bull salburg video shooting with Chris MD um we did like penal sh outs in games with mads bistrup for their YouTube channel and then did a video in it was the the final one of christed uh every time you beat a Defender the defender gets upgraded that's right yeah and we start off with like Harry R Shaw as the worst Defender when all the way up to Champions League mads bistr who fantastic player I mean yeah you realize how like when you watch t uh football on TV you think oh I could do that yeah but then if you see a actual Pro in real life yeah like that makes sense why you went pro now actually we need to do more charity so that was fun that was fun there are a lot going on it's just timings cuz there's so many things going on during summer and that's usually when charity matches go down yeah but you got to work in the schedules either you're away or I'm away or there's a brand trip or something has to be submitted in time was crazy yeah but um no I'm sure we're going to do a lot more stuff with Red Bull as well so that's exciting um but anyway we then got the taxi to Alex Alexandra Palace Ali pal come on and um I've only just realized that's why it's Ali P really yeah I just thought that Ali P was the hill and Alexandre Palace was no way Ali now I've just heard it okay that's Ali P right anyway U you almost did a off the TV intro that right right so then we uh we got into the race so no we got into the Zone where the race was going on yeah and we got to have a little scout out all the public submitted soap boxes some really cool stuff in there yeah although there was one weird one because we rock up and there are like four girls gathered around water is essentially a double bed one girl just tucked up and you back like oh this is cool and she was like yeah it's really cozy get in we were like no I I ain't doing all that I'm sure though that you know that wasn't actually her like lying in it yeah I know you could tell something was weird under the covers but I was not getting involved what what what the hell um oh you can't see my soundboard I've got to pull this back so I can soundboard here yeah he hasn't got a soundboard yet thank goodness although I should no they all see the comments by the way Lara and Arthur see the comments and Lara even said into the group chat she was like I think we need to get bat of soundboard because of all the comments she sent me a message being like listen we've got one purchase a year we can authorize either we get cool mugs or batch gets a soundboard and I was like mugs mugs oh hell no I just think it's so much funnier when you do it yourself and go to I do think so but this is going to get worn down and eventually there's going to be a Hole uh oh audio listeners don't know what I'm doing I I just I pretend there's a soundboard and I just push the sof and make my I do it as well I do it in real life I'll be speaking to people when I'm BR but it doesn't make his much sense in real life just in a conversation he's just air poking stuff as he goes brh you know what's so funny as well I showed batch this someone one of you guys one of our listeners because cuz I you do it quite a lot but I do it all the time at you do the what yeah what that thing someone did a Tik Tok called whatting people in public so she goes into this petrol station goes to pay she goes like how much is that and he goes like Oh 1350 and she just goes what loud so loud just yells it in this man's face and everyone was like bad bad you guys have to recreate this it was so funny yeah and then Arthur was like we've got to do this we've got I don't know if I have the like what is it um social confidence to do that I'd be able to do it not yell it I thought it was a bit rude though the loud yelling not in a bad I'm not criticizing you I just able to do that like that myself I'd be like what I think sorry you got no no soup of the day what what when you have a camera on you though that you get a new found confidence in public like I found no no no in general I don't know if you agree with this in like a sidan video I Feel Like rules don't apply like social rules then don't apply cuz you've got a camer on you and you can do what you want whatever you want yeah I've only recently started being able to finally find it within myself to Vlog like when we were at wagas I was like this is actually fine yeah whereas before IID look at people vlogging in public and I go I admire you a lot cuz I can never do that it helps having people around you yeah although I feel like we do it with our phones it's a bit easier that's true whereas if people with their cameras out like facing their way I'm like oh my goodness I'd be so embarrassed yeah I think I would be as well especially if you got like a big rig on the end of that thing people are just admiring you your rig yeah both of them come on anyway um what speaking of the soap boxes that we saw um there was this one there was like these four guys like lying down chilling and they had this like Dome oh yeah which was kind of like a I guess like a spa you know the space shuttles that come down to earth it kind of looked a bit like that didn't yeah um like a landing module yeah like a landing module and they what did what did they make it off fiberglass or something yeah oh my God you could smell it from where we were still and they were like stick your head in that so we stuck it you stuck your head in first took a whiff and I did it afterwards oh my God dizzying genuinely dizzying I'm high I'm still high from that moment if anyone's ever been in like a a surfboard shop where they like make the surfboards yeah it smells like that it just smell exactly like that and they bizarre I just burped on I thought that was what that was that was disgusting hopefully that didn't get picked up apologize sorry guys sorry if you heard that cut that out anyway um it's not getting cut uh it they had to spend the whole run down in that thing so I think those guys are a little bit waved yeah I'm glad we I'm glad we were just a team of two and had two seats because I kind of felt bad some people that pushed the Soap Box thing down yeah like running after it for like 50 meters and it was a hot day that's true like um most people was like a team of four and two would push two would be in it I think that's standard isn't it to have two people in the so box and then a team that will push and Chase it down probably chase down chip and freezies yeah funny it was funny as well the way he was running because I guess it was like a it was like Looney Tunes the way he had his arms up like that chasing them down to be fair there are people I felt more bad for he talking about some of the injuries of the day oh my God and this is the thing like good gosh man we were already nervous then we were then we got to S see our um vehicle which they had made some mods to by the way so put me at ease a little bit they put foam in the place where my head would smash oh yeah so I felt about that yeah um they didn't they were going to cut out the wheel arches so we could turn more but they didn't I'm glad they I actually think that worked in our favor in it did um and they were actually slagging it off when it went up on towards stage they were speaking about it on Mike and they were like they can't turn properly they can't see over it and I was thinking oh no they're slagging off our thing they were talking about our buckets on the back and stuff I don't know if they were slagging off the buckets or just speaking about I just heard bucket like they're talking about ours oh my god um but it actually worked in favor and then there was screens up showing the first runs and it took a while it like an hour or two after we got there till the first run um but did you see the Sheep one no I didn't see any of the big ones but that's a bad one there was a sheep we I was watching a sheep go down um it was just before you did your stunt I think and it got all the way to the end and then at full speed flipped over onto their necks and I think it was one of them that broke their collarbone and it looked awful and after seeing that me and pieace was stood together we were like I we genuinely don't want to go down after seeing that he was [ __ ] it I was [ __ ] it um and then not only that I think other people must have like been bruised or whatever but the other big one that we heard about is we when we got to the start line we were there waiting for like 10 minutes and it was cuz the person who went down before us got knocked out so that's crazy yeah which I didn't see I don't think we'll ever see any footage of that but I don't know what vehicle it was or anything I just heard that they got knocked out that's why we were up there for ages yeah I mean it was going down insanely fast yeah it look I mean it looks quick on camera but it doesn't look nearly as quick as it feels yeah when you're in that thing oh my goodness and you can barely see in front of you you're bouncing all over the place you're hitting these jumps there are bits where there's foam that like splashes you in the face you have a few seconds of blindness yeah it's mental it it to best describe it definitely feels faster than sitting in a car at 60 MPH I'd say faster than it feels sitting in a car going 100 yeah cuz you're so exposed to we've never gone 100 I've been on the auto bar in Germany okay fair um but yeah you're exposed so it just feels so quick but we were quick insanely Qui insanely quick I think everyone we were the first of the creators to go up everyone thought we were going to just crash yeah or just be crap and slow there was so many comments so many DMs I got afterward was like [ __ ] fair enough before we even went down though before we get cuz we we will react we'll show you us going down yeah but I think we should tell them actually maybe should we hit play and then we'll pause at certain bits to be like explainer yeah I'll tell you what it plays it goes all the way through and then they do it in slow-mo afterwards we can on the slow-mo we'll do some explanation okay here we go batch and Arthur we had the podcast sticker oh it was such a good sticker on the side which was really cool and they zoomed in out loads for the YouTube video which is great yeah was all over the stream which was ideal although you cannot see podcast there until someone shads over it yeah someone's just shattering we were stood up there for ages genuinely yeah because someone had just been knocked out looking down this hill that was just so steep it's not funny but look at that thing that's so impressive it's so well built I can't believe it and I'm I'm gutted because I actually wanted to say to the we had a little bit of help from the Red Bull Engineers yeah I wanted to say thank you to them more just be like what did you see that that was really good yeah if anyone knows anything by any chance please pass on our thanks because yeah they they helped us hopefully they watched it and saw a great deal uh but we did do a lot I mean we did spend two full days building this thing and printing it up and stuff so yeah which you'll obviously see in the Vlog I'll talk about I'll talk about something later cuz there's um this was posted to Tik Tok and there's some funny comments on there really basically yeah basically calling us desk dwellers what so this is our performance so this performance we didn't know we no was supposed to do we we were told to choose a piece of music so we chose something like Space Odyssey style but we had no idea that meant we had to perform yeah and like like she's saying like there are points for performance and we knew about 10 minutes beforehand that this 30 second period of Music we'd have to Performance so we were like let's just do something simple gum shields in the mouth bow and get in and they were harsh they gave us a three but that also also counts to the way the vehicle looks so I think three is Harsh yeah but here we go performance score 22 poor but this is when we started racking up speed the steering was really weird as well cuz it changed as we got quicker and we were just bouncing as we went down like we'd hit a ramp and oh my goodness like almost front flipped that around we Whi around the corner and our our genuine one of our wings like clipped a ha Bell and just sliced through it that one sliced through the hay Bell I was thinking as we came down I swear I would have hit that side had I not hit that side and then nailed the braking and you said you could smell burnt rubber when you were breaking on that thing cuz I was like tickling the brakes like before a jump every now and then I do one all as we approached the chicane I pulled it yeah um but they said as we were going down in the commentary like yeah oh this feels fast usually you're hitting like low 20s here and it comes up on the side and we're hitting 30 km an hour yeah we were going and we were oh my goodness I'm glad you didn't break touch the break though we didn't need it yeah yeah I mean you did a did a little bit but I mean the others obviously touched it a lot more yeah I basically kept us at a speed where I was like this is very close to the line of like where we can make this corner at the speed because at the end of the day as a race and I was like we don't want to get up at the end and just be like oh like a couple of the soite boxes made it halfway down and just like stopped completely yeah and they were like having to like like I don't know like Shake It Forward it's so awkward like we did speak and we did say we'd actually rather crash going pretty quick than come to a grinding hle because it's just not good material yeah like we did it for Content wants to see that it's for a video we know representing creators at half time yeah so many people watching we've got a space shuttle that is designed at a velocity of 17,000 500 mph yeah so we were like you know hitting to be honest when they gave us those uh cuz we asked for special helmets that covered the face yeah when they gave me that I felt invincible and I thought oh [ __ ] it and we had gum Shields that we like ped poured into boiling water molded them before and molded them so we we felt pretty safe yeah I mean but still at 30 we weren but I don't have miles hour or kilm an hour I think it was mph I actually do really yeah but whatever it is at 30 like genuinely like just whacking your head against something solid is well I mean someone did get knocked out and broke it was terrifying yeah they they then do a slow-mo okay let's watch the slow-mo and we can break down exactly because I was thinking there was a point in the chicane when we really Whi round I was thinking why did that happen it was because the back right wheel wasn't on the ground when we were coming up to the chicane so when it touched the the ground it turned us into a corner so I was like [ __ ] and I had to spin it around one way and then back around the other way oh that's why we had that major wobble yeah and you can see it it's like it's cuz one of the wheels wasn't on the ground okay let's let's watch and like in the first one we'll try and go for the audio listeners kind of describe what we're seeing yeah so the first jump yeah we it was a heavy a heavy bit of Kit as well we definitely had one of the heavier ones it and it was like so we got through here the back that wheel wasn't on the ground so like had to correct it well the chicane of just having to go really quick left and then really quick right after yeah and then this pit we hit a bunch of stairs and bch basically grinds on the right hand of them it's cuz afterwards we had to be on the right hand side so I was thinking I can't turn directly after I'm going to have to turn on the ramp like the CL the the course is split in two with like steps on the left and straight on the right and we go down the steps but like half dangling off yeah you have a choice whether to do jumps or not obviously we were going to do the jumps cuz you get docked time um no they add time on if you go round cuz it's a bit unfair yeah but we you were just like let's head it yeah and after the first jump it it looks like we really jump around I don't know about you but in it it didn't feel that bad I I think I'm the exact opposite cuz I was going flying and my bum still Hur May was our positioning or cuz I was holding on to this when yeah I had nothing to hold on to I was just sat on a blue seat I re yeah I reckon that's what it was cuz it kept me like sort of planted you fix and you're in the center so with us like when when you go off the Jump the nose sort of goes down yeah it did and then the back col kicks up into the air and then slams down and because I'm at the back you really got you know I've got a lot further to fall and I just got whacked and my butt like when I sit on the sofa like no I can feel it bruised on I was actually un unscared I was absolutely fine yeah God it was um after that first jump though I got a lot more confidence in the run I was thinking oh that was fine I can we can do all the [ __ ] jumps yeah I just got full speed no I rate it I'm so glad you just sent it cuz and you I mean you didn't have a choice sending it yeah you just you na yeah exactly you could SL down but uh I they miked us did they mic you up CU they miked me up but I said nothing the whole run yeah why would you you couldn't because the thing is I was so focused I think it's because we went so quick because there's a Red Bull posted a video on their Tik Tok page where because they miked up chip and freezy and um it's off chip speaking to freezy and he's like on the brakes off the brakes okay we're going to go around this now and I think it's CU they were using the brakes and communicating about the brakes that they had stuff to say but because we were just you told me before you weren't going to touch the brake so I thought okay he's really not there's no point saying anything and you know whether it's a Brak or not so I was just thinking I'm just going to drive I was literally only thinking like I'm only going to slow us down if I feel like at this speed we either can't hit that jump properly or can't go around the corner and I was just tickling it and it was only at the end like I was like I've got to wait until we cross the finish line before I can break and I just Ram it and because it was a friction break it's like literally a metal bar that just pulls down onto both of the rear wheels it just starts smelling like burning rubber actually nailed that was so good though cuz we literally landed after that last jump we landed and I was like [ __ ] the Finish is right there and all I could hear was I just knew he pulled that thing so hard we came around the corner and didn't touch a single thing because he broke just in time yeah and the thing was untouched like the they said they it could get sent back to one of us so I send it to my house um I got I didn't tell you this yet I got a DM from someone saying I'm just about to watch your soap box get destroyed what no it's been graveyard we took it to a graveyard but we put it to one side no they told us we could have it uh yeah oh the guy might be lying I I pray he is cuz that's so harsh but I saw it in the DM request I was like [ __ ] surely not we should M message Adam but I think a big part of the reason we couldn't speak or do much else is because we weren't so full s we did that in 36 seconds chip and freezy were the second fastest in our group I think and they were 44 seconds yeah so we were we were literally seven or eight seconds I mean I don't exactly know what their milliseconds were but we were seven or eight seconds faster than them and I mean the difference like you watch them go down and they're sort of doing a decent speed but I thought them being go- karters you know they've got their Senor frogs they race every year yeah I was like they're going to bomb it too yeah but they kind of just played it relatively safe I mean good time time but like I do think we we absolutely Center and we had this guy come up to us at the end like should you say yeah say and this guy comes up to us and go don't like freak out now or anything um but we're checking because we genuinely think this was one of the fastest of all time yeah like fastest soap boxes ever he thought we hit the world record run right there and then and they cuz they had to check them by the millisecond yeah and we were a fraction of a second off being the fastest ever 1 18 of a second something something ridiculous like that and uh so I think we were either the second or the third fastest of all time yeah there were rumors at the end of the day and I don't know whether it was Chip just winding us up being like the last car of the day was slightly faster yeah they they yeah they said something like the last car of the day actually broke the world record so if that is true we're the third fastest of all time if not we are the second fastest of all time to go down that track and we rather the second of the first fastest of this year's event which is just just the coolest thing ever like we to be fair have also like we couldn't have picked a design that was Better Built For Speed I mean it's so people were saying this is this is aerodynamic and I was thinking it is but I don't think it's going to make that much of a difference in this yeah scenario and whether it did or not or whether it was just the fact that you didn't break much yeah I think that was it it was quite heavy it was heavy as well you had one of the heavy ones so at the start you can tell this was one of the things we were saying we should have got two people cuz we only got Jake to shove us at the start yeah and when when you start off just going down the ramp it took us a while to pick up speed if we had sort of been shoved and started at a really good pace and kept it at that pace I genely think we could have built the record but I'm I want to do it again same that's why I wanted to keep that cuz we could have just modified that and send it down we know that's a winning formula yeah make it into a submarine or something yeah exactly that thing works but Red Bull like they they we had such a great time with them they did so much for us and we were so grateful and we were speaking see nothing guaranteed and stuff um but they were saying there's a potential for us to come back and maybe do the one that you know you launch off a ramp and you're like 10 m up whatever and you've got to Glide over water as far as possible there and there are loads of other sort of like cool Red Bull events and stuff to do so um yeah I think we make this a thing if we can do just more of this stuff yeah I loved it it was genuinely one of the best things I've ever done I think yeah and there's a the the the only annoying thing is there's so much footage it's going to take a while to get the video together because Red Bull have Clips we have clips they've sent us a hard driver clipse I've got stuff on my phone B has stuff on his phone Jake has stuff on his phone so we'll gather it all together but when the video comes out I think it'll be such a good one because so good the whole experience was just the coolest thing ever and we couldn't be more grateful to Red Bull for that the perfect run at the end we just ended it so perfectly the whole experience I think yeah it couldn't have gone better afterwards I so cool yeah I couldn't get the helmet off though we got to the very end I could not figure out how to unclip the helmet so I did the interview with a helmet on yeah they could not hear thing as well you hear me go oh the atmosphere was electric and I know he said the electric thing and then we um yeah we Kenny from South Park hanging out with us we to I finally I got someone to take my helmet off we drove the soap box down to the graveyard thing but they said they weren't going to break it we put it to one side it might be broken and then we had to run up the hill because we had to get on the live stream to do an interview straight afterwards yeah and oh my God you realize how far we came down Running Up That thing that it was 400 to 500 M back up a relatively Steep Hill on a very hot day we were exhausted from the day before and uh being out the night before and having the race and all that kind of stuff and in boiler suits and it was a hot day boiling I got so sweaty at the top we got to the top and we were like that was just a thoroughly unenjoyable experience but it was cool cuz there I heard I don't I think I told you at the time I heard a kid as we ran past he was like oh my God racers felt like an F1 driver in that moment yeah that really went straight to my head yeah I bet we felt a lot cooler than we probably looked just running around in boiler suits and I'm my Red Bull cap on we had shades on surprised he hasn't got that red bull cap on today by the way that thing you're going to have to peel that off his dead body I've been wearing it so much lady just cuz I I love it it's good for green screen stuff that is the one thing I I might start wearing cuts out the wispy hair yeah it cuts out the wispy hair which kind of ruin the illusion I've got that real issue whereas when you wear a cap it's like a smooth round thing and the green screen just looks much better I see my editors have all been like wear a cap as often as possible oh so they even so they tell you what to do huh you're not Char they do interesting well I keep my editors locked away and then I give them footage and they're like please I want to see my family please share an editor now no King yeah we do shout out king great honestly fantastic worker his work ethic he sent me a video and like couple hours later he was like actually here's a V2 I watched it back and I I could see some improvements I was like kind of mentality and he's not been editing for long either yeah so he's I think all selft talk cow's amazing as well they're both just great honestly yeah people listening a fascinated here about how much we love our tives yeah let's get back to the Red Bull so box race so then we did our interview at the very top which is when cuz we went down first so we were Then followed by all the other creators who did the race um we didn't really get to see them at the time cuz we were running up the the bloody Hill but um we got to the top they all slowly joined us did their interview and then it got revealed the scores so there were different categories we were like ranked on or scored on the first being performance and I I'm pretty sure the style of the cart comes into that as well yeah and so we what did we get like what was it 20 22 it was really bad 40 terrible score we got like a seven a six a three and a five something like that whoever gave us a three what's wrong with you huh they were grumpy though cuz I think chip and frezy got something like 39 and the guy that person gave them a nine apparently they were really mean scoring the whole time that's crazy but chip and fzy knew about the performance thing which we I know how they knew about that we had no idea chip and freezy raced as a box of 20 chicken McNuggets yeah and they brought like homemade barbecue sauce and just on each other yeah pry just poured it all over them it was good like as performances go that's like the best thing you can do yeah so they got a really great score like almost perfect just one guy dropped a mark on it um 39 out 40 but I feel like I feel like giving us a three was really harsh I know our performance wasn't great but the music was very fitting yeah and maybe we should have pretended we were on the moon with our jumping or something like walking like that he just had such a cool carard we had so little time to think about it yeah I feel like it was harsh though look at our car that was really cool yeah maybe we were also ranked harshly because we were the first creators to go down maybe maybe we would have got a better score if we were towards the end I don't know yeah maybe but um yeah we did really bad on that and then you get obviously score for your speed in finishing the race yeah which we smashed Everyone by like four four seconds or something or seven or eight yeah like seven or eight seconds Quicks first to second and the second fastest and I think Becky and pieace got a dnf finish either they hit a minute or they stopped completely yeah cuz they went over one of the jumps and then front end broke so the wheel wasn't really like or the front was touching the floor dragging across the floor so they just I felt bad for them they just ped all across but at least they got down in one piece that's the they were just in a pint glass yeah it was really cool and they had a they had a cool performance Becky poured pint on um pie which was funny um con and Jack had a cool performance they just had some Swagger about it like yeah it was cool oh yeah we got picked on the performance but they did struggle getting into the vehicle did they yeah CU it's really hard and narrow to get in um they got they everyone got all the way to the end by the way Colin Jack fell over at the end there thing just went on its side they they chose thinner Wheels I didn't think they were going to make it that far yeah they also had a really high center of gravity cuz their car was thin and quite tall yeah like if you looked at their car it looked like it wanted to fall over it was a bit like chitty chitty bang bang but like elongated yeah so they did really well to and they were drifting it as well it was drifting so they did really well to get to the bottom um but yeah we were like seven seconds quicker than seven or eight seconds quicker than the second fastest which was it chip and freezy or was it Con I think it might have been no chip and frezy was Heavy wasn't it to be fair so that would move um and then there was People's Choice which we said we won 49% and was those were those those three so I think the reason so we ended up coming third we came third out of the four I just think it wasn't like cuz we won two out of three categories you'd think we'd win but I think they gave they were sort of like weighted yeah so because we were so low on the performance us being ahead on the other two bits didn't pull us up enough I think it's really harsh I think it doesn't matter at all by the way I don't I don't care but I do think it's harsh that performance is weighted so heavily in comparison to like speed has got to be the most important thing yeah like it's a race I know that's that's the way we were looking at it that's because it's a race come on we were focus on the race as aspect obviously soap boxes isn't Formula 1 is supposed to be like a bit of fun cretive stuff which you do get um but yeah hard winning two out of three categories and winning the race comfortably well it was more like at in the moment when they were revealing who won out of us four I was thinking in my head oh we've definitely won yeah after winning we got like 50% of the votes for People's Choice so it was a landslide Victory they said and a landslide Victory on the speed so I was thinking we have smashed those two things so surely we've gained loads of points for that yeah and we came third I was like I'm actually quite shocked by that I in my head I was thinking oh my God we've won yeah but um no it was so means anything like there's I don't there's nothing for it yeah I was just surprised but genuinely so it was so good yeah it was it was definitely definitely one of the best things I've ever done I was so glad that we did it I can't wait for the proper video to come out and have it all like a documentary s of documented archive just being like Oh I can look back at that video that was a banger yeah oh it was it was really good um then we stuck around and watched some public racing um and yeah there was it was it was nice there was a nice like area where you could get food and stuff and the worms showed up oh yeah lots of the patreon supporters a couple of N and non patreon people showed up lots of podcast people I'm guessing everyone there was podcast listeners because I didn't really put it on any platform no I think it it was all podcast we spoken about on the on on the podcast and in the patreon group chat quite a lot yeah and that was pretty much it so thank you well regardless if it's yeah thank you guys for coming along cuz it was so nice speaking to everyone great really great to have your support um yeah and yeah you guys were there for most of the day just like stood by our um what do you call it Soap Box stood by our Soap Box we were coming over when we could to say hi and stuff yeah everyone got photos we oh my goodness quite a lot of people wanted us to draw tattoos for them oh dear and we are not artistic no we're close yeah I'm a letter away but I not draw sa in my life and I was like the only thing I could think of was the rocket emoji yeah that was pretty good to be fair I was trying to draw them but getting the three little things at the bottom and the fire I was like I was like show this to your artist and they'll get what I'm trying to draw yeah they'll understand I mean I just ended up drawing flowers CU it's the easiest thing to draw it's got nothing to do with me a lot of art what just happened you just got bored of your own conversation I just yawned I was hoping you take it off me really quickly cuz I yawned no someone asked for a cameo once where they were like can you draw something for us to do a tattoo and I did a a ringed planet oh nice and oh my goodness trying to get cuz obviously if you put the circle there first the ring that goes in front like cuts through lines and it looks crap so you've kind of got to start with the ring but obviously just as the ring curves back around you have to stop and then you have to imagine where the sphere is going to be and oh my goodness I burnt through about half this notebook trying to get one that just looks semi-reasonable so whoever invented Saturn fair enough yeah exactly that must have been difficult and Uranus yep that's also ringed yeah um many too many rings yeah I've got a ring do you oh yeah and that weekend batch proposed to me so I said yes no I'm talking about my ass what anyway um it was it was a different kind of proposition to the one you were thinking of yours is way cuter than mine and I said no oh hell no I just got that that's disgusting cuz I was like on Saturday night we were just chilling we were like go we're exhausted yeah and I was like do you want to just stay around and Bach was like yeah so we played fornite and watch scary movies yeah he took me to get sushi again yeah we went to sticks and Sushi again but I was like I kind of want to make more videos but we were just so tired yeah I it was too late you just what you made me watch horror stuff we we watched a bunch of scary videos on YouTube like real ghost sightings and short horror movies and I was like I've wanted to do videos like that with you ages I was like then was the perfect time but our energy was just shock yeah we'll do it we'll definitely do it another time though CU people just love that love that horror game yeah is entertaining to watch other people get scared people don't want to watch you have fun they want to watch you cringe and be scared people enjoyed us having fun of Minecraft true but you were scared of I died like five six times I'm not very good clearly everyone's making fun of me did I die once I didn't I don't think no but your spirit died at one point hell no my spirit my spirit was always my spirit were through the roof um when I was getting attacked by Leona Lewis and I was hiding in the house turns out Leona Lewis can't go in water so I should have just gone in water I saw that comment yeah thanks for that thanks for the comment I'm actually going to use that logic and I I already want to film episode three right now do you yeah it was so fun we'll do it this week actually it's so fun like I enjoy playing it we're just loading up M fil although he needs a he needs a setup can we can we tell this boy to put some money towards a proper setup he plays on his PlayStation so we have to play Bedrock Edition so I can't use my nice shaders that make the waters and everything look clean and all the like graphics and stuff you know the like it's T's water we're keeping it the graphics upgrades are insane look just just a bit enjoy a humble bit of like Minecraft where it's nostalgic not everything has to be polished yeah okay fine um but no it was it was really good fun and it is it is I do love that we can just do that kind of stuff and just play a game and it would be fun yeah um we can just like high five when we want yeah anyway um back to let's go back in time to um the end of the race he wet himself no he didn't he didn't no he didn't but um I just want to make sure that we covered everything no because we didn't speak about um the stunt the stunts oh yeah you should tell them about the stunt they they just flung on you they didn't tell you until yeah they didn't tell me about this before and they made me sign my rights away yeah and it it was they had already Ked off the live stream so you just had to do it yeah um we basically batch got nice one he got pulled aside and they were like oh is the driver we're testing your reflexes yeah and what did they do they so she dropped a ruler and you just had to grab the ruler um as soon as she dropped it and just see how many centimeters you let drop to judge your reaction time I didn't do I think I came second actually nice but on the practice I failed uh so I was like oh that was nice and peaceful and fun I wonder what mine's going to be and they get me and they they I put this heart monitor on and I was like what they put this heart monitor on me put me in the middle of this cage and this dude called like Douglas or something comes up in this massive dirt bike and just goes like I'll lie down in the middle and I was like I know exactly where this is going got R to me and Jack just start planking and he's sort of in this giant he giant of a man I swear he's like 6'4 in this massive dirt bike and he's sort of there like on one wheel bouncing the like wheel like an inch from my head and I'm like if he just if anything misjudges he crushes my skull yeah like we we we lose one of the Bright Young talents of this generation and you as well wait what do you mean well they'd get Jack and you oh yeah yeah good old Jack and then then he was doing like wheelies around your head like just driving past full speed past his head yeah it was giving me the E actually see lie down there insane and I was just like well I'm playing it cool cuz that's like the name of the game it'd be cringe if I got up and I mean they they even said that if you get up you're at risk of just getting your head whacked cuz he's like an inch within your head so if you move it until you die yeah um and for like a minute he just did this and bounced around and yeah you were down there for a hot minute yeah we were there for ages just getting driven around I thought oh this is just getting this is just cruel now yeah I mean the poor boy is just lying there with a boner by the way uh because he gets that happens when he gets scared just why you think I keep getting you for horror games oh no i h on a Bo so he's just doing circling circling circling around Arthur on the floor it just I just felt a bit sorry for him in the end yeah uh so that was terrifying but good F night you know I'm up for anything I did realized the other day I'm just one of his friends who's just up for thing yeah you are actually someone could be like hey we're going to sit inside and watch movies tonight I be like fine or they can be like come on man we're robbing a bank I'm like cool they'll be like come on going glamping for the weekend do you is that real though if I said or okay let's go and watch the Euros tonight fine let's do it England England this is the last night of the group stage and all of a sudden the mood is really dead because we're just through now we've not played well either it's been pathetic there I said it and Harry Kane when you finally come on this podcast I've got some strong words to have with you mine mine Reserve is Gareth Southgate and not bringing BR and not playing kobby Mayu okay sorry Harry Kane actually way he's playing phenomenally to be not as if we're missing him but I'm mad at you Southgate yeah Italy um not playing too bad oh my goodness you're Italian did you watch the game last night and they scored the 90th plus eight to go through 98th minute it was the draw against Croatia oh that was heartbreaking poor the thing is they probably would have gone through anyway as one of the people third but um it's nice to confirm it you know yeah those moments of elation just so hard I think Italy just like a decent Striker anyway we won't bore you with football because a lot of people probably don't care about football yeah um but yeah I mean I'm getting into F1 now yes you are you watch drive to survive right yeah I've been watching drive to surv I need to get on that I really want to watch that um and hence why the Red Bull so box race I was really in I was really in my element Because You Loved does it make you love Red Bull as well the driver to survive does it follow a particular team it follows the mall and to be honest I haven't really got like a team I really um it's not like I really want to see this team win it's more people that you care about it's good to see Red Bull doing well but um I like Lando do you yeah you're Lando Norris enjoyer I'm a Lando enjoyer I like them all to be fair from what I've seen I like I get I like Char all oh cuz he kind he kind of looks like Charles mclair uh yeah I get uh Lando Norris a lot people always say like L nor I'm not sure about that boy and uh obviously like V stappen red the Red Bull goat what batch V stappen high five what does that even mean batch for steppen me batch for steppen batch for steppen me instead of Max for Sten batch for Sten it's one of the only times that batch really goes into anything batch for Sten what do people nickname you at school get tuna boy cuz I've brought in tuna fish boy uh right I was going duckling I was going for more names like name related like okay because I was oh name related I was I was called nothing I was just called Arthur I don't know why I said it like that I was called Nothing me yeah had no friends at school no I didn't really people would say ice as a joke ice yeah I just I didn't like not having a cool nickname name my sister one of my sisters calls me Izzy that's really cringe and feminine yo she watches these which is fine yo she watches these apologize down the lens right now I apologize nothing cuz it is it was true it was my truly held opinion and you should never apologize for being yourself sometimes she calls me Elizabeth as well what and I don't really know where she got that from she started that was a good what what yeah she watches it where she works as she was working she'll have it on Gizzy by the way I didn't get cancelled for what Sunday came out where I waterboarded Chris I haven't watched that and I was seriously worried I was genuinely like I thought you know just some people on the internet can be real yeah cuz they might be like oh you're making fun of water boarding people actually die from water boarding that's not what I exactly what I meant oh because okay you can't waterboard Chris because he doesn't like water and some people have been drowned before no okay of course because because you shouldn't do water boarding because it's like saying this is something you should it's really on impressionable fans and they'll be like okay I'm going to water board my mom tonight right maybe maybe that was like oh you shouldn't do that on to an impression I'm going to cancel you right now in that case um but no I I I just thought people would be like oh that was so mean of him they're not friends like just you know when you don't really know I mean obviously anyone who's seen Chris and videos knows how much abuse he puts me through I mean that guy abuse shs down on my neck like there's no tomorrow he's just I I'll just be chilling mid shootting he'll just go on my traps I mean granted they're juicy like they're nice muscular defined um have you ever thought you might just be a vampire I don't know hiding in plain sight you know you've got two Pierce marks right there you getting sucked by you've got really garlicky breath so I don't think I could be a a vampire cuz otherwise let's not start rumors like that otherwise I'd run there's not start rumors like that yeah my breath smells like daisies rainbows fairy tales I'm always chewing gum you are always chewing gum you're a real gum chewer yeah it Bo it boosts your confidence it's like putting a pair of sunglasses on I'm glad you don't do it on the podcast that would be the most annoying thing to listen to I have done it before but I just tuck it into my teeth like snz you don't mean that it's gum you don't mean that it's gum it's just weird you don't mean that it's gum gum started freaking out you know we were speaking about eggs the other day when you you're Midway through eating heads and you're like wait up yeah that's a period something ain't right that's a menstrual cycle raor and you're like yeah well that weirdly makes me like it more it's more than I knew you were a feminist me too come on yeah um we do like to bring awareness to the fact that women exist and have Cycles cuz I I I mentioned menstrual cycles all the time and I in one of my YouTube videos I was like I've got to stop saying menstrual cycles drop a comment if you think I should stop saying menual cycle everyone's like no and someone's like no it actually feels kind of feminist in a weird way cuz you're bringing light to the fact of cuz not everyone knows that women have I think everyone knows women have periods I found out 3 days ago watching your video you thought they had penis what I just thought they merely existed they merely exist in a in a realm Between Heaven and Hell where somewhere I love doesn't exist what the hell is this guy talking about women only exist in heaven women are heaven on Earth in my opinion how does that song Go heaven heaven for what it's worth women are heaven on Earth women are heaven on Earth brother in Christ you don't know what you're talking about right now I feel like we're getting on to Serious brain rot have you got anything else this is a rare batch prepared actually been praying preparing a lot um all of the episodes lately we've actually yeah hence why the quality's increased um no you just you do stuff in a different way I like like reading and talking reading well next episode's prepared by by Arthur and we'll be filming this directly after this one yeah we're doing complet transparency cuz batch is way on holiday and I'm going to be honest because I'm not I've not brought a spare pair of clothes anyway yeah me neither I don't want to hear no comments like why is he wearing that shirt again well they should be comenting CU alth this on an episode before quite frankly Arthur is either can I just say by the way I predicted what you were going to be wearing on the Red Bull meal I said Arthur will turn up in Black corduroy shorts um and a cream beige top shirt either worn as an overshirt with a white t-shirt underneath or just a shirt that's exactly what you were that's true I mean I have two other pairs of shorts I had a black like pair that were like had textured but the waistband thing snapped hard to find a good pair of shorts and then I had a nice like cream beige pair yeah um but they were just like I don't know linen and just ended up being a bit too and take it from a guy a sleepover with him he doesn't take them off he showers in them he goes me to take them off he was like take them off take them off take them off and I was like leave me alone yeah I was like please wash please wash you were just misreading me I wasn't saying take them off I was like please wash please wash anyway I I got the um I went into the patreon chat o uh little plug if you want to join the patreon go ahead there's a chat you get early access to episodes they get uploaded all the time and Bullies me in it yeah I do speak in there a fair amount um and I said to them we're filming two pods today can you guys reply to this message with any questions you have about the Red Bull Soapbox race we're going to be doing a whole episode on it uh because I thought there might be you know they might want to know more information on how it was built or how we were feeling and stuff and we could just give us some insight to that we've just explained the day how cool it was blah blah blah but they want to know the BTS let's see how insightful their questions can be okay did you hurt your nose that's [ __ ] rude no I didn't that obviously pointed at you no I didn't to be fair I did we had said in an episode prior that there was no foam and we are going to smash our faces in they put foam in we had good helmets on but we didn't actually crash so yeah we didn't crash so although his coxic bone is in pain yeah my coxics I'm absolutely fine because I'm not weak that's your tailbone um may ask for us highly evolved Apes that was from Brooke by the way I'll say names shout outs May says how SL why did you decide to build a rocket why I guess cuz it's very on brand for us have a look at our mugs yep yeah I mean we're just we're were're a Spacey themed podcast for no apparent reason we genely I'm sure we said in the earlier episodes we had no plans to be themed and bats just randomly one day went let's just make it space themed I just think it's cool yeah me I just think we both think it's cool we do we just need a cool set I think most of the things we do is because we think oh that's cool like the Soap Box we thought oh it'd be cool if we did a a ship or a ufi yeah just cuz it just cuz it's funny someone actually messaged in for the next one I've got like the submissions from the normal submissions page which everyone can enter just go to our any of our socials at Bach and arur and in the link there's like a a link tree and one of them is the submissions form and they were like what is your target audience because I can't really figure it out and I'm studying media at the moment target audience is such a big thing and I was like we don't have one we just come on talk about whatever we find interesting yeah and just hope that some people agree yeah and the people who do listen are actually very um diverse yeah and intelligent and cool and good looking and all this yeah um so yeah no um yeah and it's weird because we're not sitting there going oh let's talk about this to appeal to this audience which I think is I mean somehow it works so thank you guys for tuning into thanks cuz I think if you analyzed it in like a media class and it was like oh one minute you're doing brain rot meme references and the next you're talking about s men and then the next we're talking about Greek philosophy and the next one like Roman Parables and then religion they'd be like well someone's going to listen to the one episode like it and then not like the rest yeah but for some reason people just like listening to it all really I think we just decided that we're just going to do what we want like yeah whatever we enjoy yeah like whatever we enjoy and whatever we F feel like talking about we're just going to do it because if you want to enjoy something you've like if you want this if we want this podcast to continue we've got to enjoy it and if we're looking at it tactically like Oh Let's do an episode on this so we can boost our audience in this demographic it will start to feel like a like a real job well like you know I've heard from other people that do podcasts that their producers will be like today you're having this guest on and they're like well I've never watched the show they're on or Never follow them don't care about the story but I've got to do it's nice that we kind of have a just able to just go oh whatever and I do think the stuff we talk about is interesting broadly like if you're someone who like whenever we meet or speak to anyone who watches the podcast they're always like oh I love like these types of interesting discussions I feel like if you have a generally curious mind yeah like if if people who are listening to this and enjoy it are going to be similar to us in that respect and they you know even if they don't have a an interest in any of the particular like they might be like oh I love hearing about religion I'm a curious person but they don't care about Greek philosophy yeah or anything when we speak about the ship of thesis they're still like oh it's an interesting thought like it's an interesting thought so if you're one of those types of people like us then all that kind of stuff is interesting I guess thus our our demographic is people who just have similar interests to us yeah or like have a similar outlook on life or yeah that's the thing it's not even like it's just it's the broad value of curiosity I think who just like they like to laugh they like a bit of Comedy cuz we even get people who disagree with us and they're like oh I'm religious I completely disagree with this all but it was so interesting to listen to and so they're not listening because we're speaking about things that they find um they agree with or they enjoy you know but they're going like oh like I like the way these topics are approached or the way this is discussed and yeah so yeah hopefully we'll try and keep that up um hey no way we're going to brain Rock 24/7 after here or no anyway um Connie asked what was your top speed we don't actually know but what did you think it was 30 well when we passed we passed the speed gate at what will be one of the fastest points and that was 30 okay mil K yeah km pH um Leia says do you think you were going to make it to the Finish Line did you think you were going to make it to the Finish Line I genuinely um did not think we were going to make it past the chicane to be honest yeah cuz I didn't realize the course was as wide as it was however the as narrow as it was you mean actually yeah yes and no the thing is it's like driving a car when you're in a car it looks like you're you're bigger than the road but actually you can fit in much smaller of a gap than you expect yourself to be able to and so when you're actually in the soap box when we were doing the chicane in my head I thought we're going to catch one of the hay bals and go flying but actually although it was actually pretty close watching it back it felt like I had enough room to get round and stuff well two hay bals we did fully slic through well yeah if the wings were like flat fronted we would have we could have just spun out flown but because the wings were just like yeah we the first one and then the second one we through that yeah um but in no I didn't think we were going to make it down in one piece to be honest I thought either we'd get to the end and there' be damage or we'd fall over at the end or we just wouldn't make it to the end cuz it's not a like it more often than not you don't make it to the end yeah so I thought statistically I didn't I didn't think we were going to make it to the end so I was surprised were you or not it's so funny because at the start you're like I really don't know but be when you're going down it's so fast and you've got to think a lot like yeah I was just constantly thinking like just monitoring whether we were going too fast or not to be like bring the speed down ever so slightly and it's everything's happening so fast you don't have time to think oh are we going to make it like any hypotheticals it's just uh pull the break break on break off break off oh my goodness are we going to make this corner are we going to too fast at how are we doing like all this kind of stuff's rushing through your head I didn't even think about it I was no so yeah I had no thoughts in my head either I think we were just on reflex at that point yeah because every yeah like Arthur said everything's coming at you so quick like before the chane I thought I had enough time to put my hand up and wave and I was like [ __ ] no I don't yeah so that's when I came back onto the wheel and did that so we really don't have much time in that thing um then Phoenix asks what was the hardest and easiest part of the creative process oh hard po was coming up with an idea for what we wanted to do as the car because we took ages like they were asking us for the design for so long and we were like we really don't know it is hard when you can do literally anything it's like the classic situation where you've got too much Choice yeah so you can't make a decision and neither necessarily creative creative types yeah so we and also it's it's difficult as well when there's two people because obviously if one person wants to do something we we agreed yeah we we didn't have any friction on what we wanted to do we because we both didn't really have an idea but you've got to make sure that what one person comes up with the other person's happy to do um but I think from the go we just suggested either a space shuttle or UFO we were both happy with those two ideas and then we had a look at some pictures and we thought okay let's go for a space sh that was it yeah so I think that um it was hard in the beginning but to to be honest the decision process was pretty easy for us in the end I do think the hardest part although that was hard I think what was harder for us was probably um building the chassis don't you think it was harder than the woodwork yeah that's probably true cuz we didn't have any engineer assistance with the underly car yeah the actual chassis itself we just had bits like we didn't have instructions for half of it we were in in a big Warehouse with just a bunch of nuts bolts rods	my goodness like almost front flipped that around we Whi around the corner and our our genuine one of our wings like clipped a ha Bell and just sliced through it that one sliced through the hay Bell I was thinking as we came down I swear I would have hit that side had I not hit that side and then nailed the braking and you said you could smell burnt rubber when you were breaking on that thing cuz I was like tickling the brakes like before a jump every now and then I do one all as we approached the chicane I pulled it yeah um but they said as we were going down in the commentary like yeah oh this feels fast usually you're hitting like low 20s here and it comes up on the side and we're hitting 30 km an hour yeah we were going and we were oh my goodness I'm glad you didn't break touch the break though we didn't need it yeah yeah I mean you did a did a little bit but I mean the others obviously touched it a lot more yeah I basically kept us at a speed where I was like this is very close to the line of like where we can make this corner at the speed because at the end of the day as a race and I was like we don't want to get up at the end and just be like oh like	8	6	4	my goodness like almost front flipped that around we Whi around the corner and our our genuine one of our wings like clipped a ha Bell and just sliced through it that one sliced through the hay Bell I was thinking as we came down I swear I would have hit that side had I not hit that side and then nailed the braking and you said you could smell burnt rubber when you were breaking on that thing cuz I was like tickling the brakes like before a jump every now and then I do one all as we approached the chicane I pulled it yeah um but they said as we were going down in the commentary like yeah oh this feels fast usually you're hitting like low 20s here and it comes up on the side and we're hitting 30 km an hour yeah we were going and we were oh my goodness I'm glad you didn't break touch the break though we didn't need it yeah yeah I mean you did a did a little bit but I mean the others obviously touched it a lot more yeah I basically kept us at a speed where I was like this is very close to the line of like where we can make this corner at the speed because at the end of the day as a race and I was like we don't want to get up at the end and just be like oh like	you could smell burnt rubber when you were breaking on that thing	8,6,8	2,4,3	8	6	8	2	4	3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0g_xJvKEb8	4,108	-0g_xJvKEb8	2024-06-27 00:00:00	[Music] what's up everybody welcome back to episode 14 of the batch and Arthur podcast yay go thanks for joining everyone we have something to reveal yes we do I know you guys don't like it when Arthur has his mug on the couch because he tends to drop things don't you never dropped anything actually okay you dropped that th done remember that well you might have noticed I also have my mug on the sofa mhm wondering why who wants to know why should we tell them something to do with one like equals one Lara maybe something to do with that exactly you guys ready see what you reveal go way for audio listeners we have white mugs with our little cartoon characters on them that's right little will I didn't want to Cheers you and I've got my little handsome space guy come on yeah Lara surprised us with these this is a gift um mine shatterproof as well apparently oh it's not sh yeah he's got a plastic mug because we know what he's like I've sippy C the audio listeners actually little rubber cppy cup with two handles well actually when Arthur drinks from a mug show them how you do it I'll I'll commentate for this he uses two hands so he grabs on the like handle and then he grabs the other hand I drink everything with two hands especially tea and Pints yeah I don't really know what is there a reason for that or not safety I guess twice as balanced is that really if one arm stops working the other one's there as a fail safe well there you go that's why he does it guys so it makes sense all after all yeah um speaking of batch and Arthur this podcast design right here yeah this has been plasted on something recently what our rocket ship oh yeah guys we just got back from the Red Bull Soap Box race and we're alive 2024 we genuinely were not sure we were going to survive no I was but we did really scared we we turned up we got to see other people's cards um and there was basically two things going on so there's like a public race and then the Creator race was like a separate thing which is streamed on YouTube If you go on Red Bull's um YouTube channel and you go on under the live tab you can actually watch the full thing yeah we were like a half time race yeah it was Bas half time show yeah there was a few people who weren't happy about the Creator's uh racing cuz they thought we were mixed in with the public but it's like a whole separate thing like we can't win any awards over the public or anything like that yeah um but but we won the hearts of the public come on yeah we did win the hearts of the public there was a a couple of things that you were like rated on as creators and one of them was People's Choice and we got a landslide victory of 44% yeah it actually ended up on 49% 50% out of four teams we got 49 everyone rounds 49 thank you to everyone who voted for us we one of four teams but we're up against chip and freezy who have a big loving audience Becky and pieace who audience and then con from the siden huge loving audience and the guy who's our cameraman on the train video the siden that's right Jack was there as well went to with con they had cool out but uh we we got to Ali p uh that's my first time there you've been there before actually I think we should start the day before okay let's let's reel that [ __ ] back because we had another sleepover kind of yeah we did have another let's just say oh no we didn't really a hotel yeah we did not have a sleepover but what did we do where did we first meet we we met at the we met at the hotel at the hotel dropped our bags off Adam was there he's the Red Bull guy that was been looking after us and he took all the creators out to dinner yeah we to find the tell first yeah chopped a pint um both hands come on yeah then we got in a taxi we went to dinner we had a create a dinner um what did you eat pizza yeah I had a really really hot hot pizza but the thing I was enjoying the most was the football we had a massive screen in front of us oh yeah cuz France were playing Netherlands NE scen I felt kind of harsh cuz the the table was positioned in a way that only half of us could see the football and the other half were just watching us watching football yeah but no he they were watching a react video basically they got to see us live reacting In the Flesh um but the meal was really good the food was really good uh Jake was struggling Jake the guy works with um Arthur they both got the same Pizza he was struggling with the heat yeah he was [ __ ] [ __ ] struggling with the Pint as well got two pints steep was steaming no cuz he was so in denial Jake yeah Jake had a couple pints and he was gone we were like you are drunk he like I am not drunk and he was getting angry mad I'm not even drunk he's I haven't even done anything later he's doing karaoke so that's belting out karaoke with his phone to the to the mic with with voice note on my God it's so that was you singing those Tunes to someone yeah we yeah CU you've been to a place before should we say the name of the place or not I actually I don't remember it anyway okay we went to this place anyway Arthur's been there before it's um like a karaoke bar with uh like an arcade and bowling and there's a dance floor and like a bar and stuff like that yeah very good fun we all went there did some karaoke went there for Arthur Hill's birthday that's how I found out about it what a place it is a cool place actually um yeah did a bit of karaoke we were in there for a couple hours doing karaoke in the end yeah um belting at tunes by the way batch can sing No Arthur can sing yeah but I think people would assume that from but that goes without saying no but but Frank Sinatra came on and oh my goodness batch was just cooking that thing anyone can sing Frank arra welcome back Frank Sinatra he died and this is him reborn wasn't wasn't he heavily involved with the mafia Frank Sinatra so are you you're a quter Italian that's true but I can't admit that no not legally anyway oops they're going to come and get me try and come and get me watch me beat beat you all up actually I shouldn't say what if they do don't come and get me please I was just kidding I've got nothing to do with him he lives on 32 Italian back street oh my god that actually is my house number H what don't say that it's not that's my apartment number as well no we you're not finding out where we live um I'm going to move in with Arthur anyway we moved in together on Minecraft yeah sort of anyway back to karaoke we had fun at karaoke then we went home we didn't get back till 3:00 a.m. silly move because we had to be up early yeah we had it well not that early we had 10: a.m. taxi picks up yeah but we met at breakfast at 9:30 it was the most romantic breakfast of my life yeah um and then stayed at the Hilton Red Bull of class they put us in there they also like what a lovely experience not only did they take us to dinner they they paid for karaoke and everything like that they covered everything shout out to Red Ball I'm going to crack One open right now and they're actually delicious all these colored red balls my actual favorite is the summer edition you guys should actually try this this is not sponsored but I'm just saying this is not even the first thing I I did I went to salburg in Austria and did some Red Bull salburg video shooting with Chris MD um we did like penal sh outs in games with mads bistrup for their YouTube channel and then did a video in it was the the final one of christed uh every time you beat a Defender the defender gets upgraded that's right yeah and we start off with like Harry R Shaw as the worst Defender when all the way up to Champions League mads bistr who fantastic player I mean yeah you realize how like when you watch t uh football on TV you think oh I could do that yeah but then if you see a actual Pro in real life yeah like that makes sense why you went pro now actually we need to do more charity so that was fun that was fun there are a lot going on it's just timings cuz there's so many things going on during summer and that's usually when charity matches go down yeah but you got to work in the schedules either you're away or I'm away or there's a brand trip or something has to be submitted in time was crazy yeah but um no I'm sure we're going to do a lot more stuff with Red Bull as well so that's exciting um but anyway we then got the taxi to Alex Alexandra Palace Ali pal come on and um I've only just realized that's why it's Ali P really yeah I just thought that Ali P was the hill and Alexandre Palace was no way Ali now I've just heard it okay that's Ali P right anyway U you almost did a off the TV intro that right right so then we uh we got into the race so no we got into the Zone where the race was going on yeah and we got to have a little scout out all the public submitted soap boxes some really cool stuff in there yeah although there was one weird one because we rock up and there are like four girls gathered around water is essentially a double bed one girl just tucked up and you back like oh this is cool and she was like yeah it's really cozy get in we were like no I I ain't doing all that I'm sure though that you know that wasn't actually her like lying in it yeah I know you could tell something was weird under the covers but I was not getting involved what what what the hell um oh you can't see my soundboard I've got to pull this back so I can soundboard here yeah he hasn't got a soundboard yet thank goodness although I should no they all see the comments by the way Lara and Arthur see the comments and Lara even said into the group chat she was like I think we need to get bat of soundboard because of all the comments she sent me a message being like listen we've got one purchase a year we can authorize either we get cool mugs or batch gets a soundboard and I was like mugs mugs oh hell no I just think it's so much funnier when you do it yourself and go to I do think so but this is going to get worn down and eventually there's going to be a Hole uh oh audio listeners don't know what I'm doing I I just I pretend there's a soundboard and I just push the sof and make my I do it as well I do it in real life I'll be speaking to people when I'm BR but it doesn't make his much sense in real life just in a conversation he's just air poking stuff as he goes brh you know what's so funny as well I showed batch this someone one of you guys one of our listeners because cuz I you do it quite a lot but I do it all the time at you do the what yeah what that thing someone did a Tik Tok called whatting people in public so she goes into this petrol station goes to pay she goes like how much is that and he goes like Oh 1350 and she just goes what loud so loud just yells it in this man's face and everyone was like bad bad you guys have to recreate this it was so funny yeah and then Arthur was like we've got to do this we've got I don't know if I have the like what is it um social confidence to do that I'd be able to do it not yell it I thought it was a bit rude though the loud yelling not in a bad I'm not criticizing you I just able to do that like that myself I'd be like what I think sorry you got no no soup of the day what what when you have a camera on you though that you get a new found confidence in public like I found no no no in general I don't know if you agree with this in like a sidan video I Feel Like rules don't apply like social rules then don't apply cuz you've got a camer on you and you can do what you want whatever you want yeah I've only recently started being able to finally find it within myself to Vlog like when we were at wagas I was like this is actually fine yeah whereas before IID look at people vlogging in public and I go I admire you a lot cuz I can never do that it helps having people around you yeah although I feel like we do it with our phones it's a bit easier that's true whereas if people with their cameras out like facing their way I'm like oh my goodness I'd be so embarrassed yeah I think I would be as well especially if you got like a big rig on the end of that thing people are just admiring you your rig yeah both of them come on anyway um what speaking of the soap boxes that we saw um there was this one there was like these four guys like lying down chilling and they had this like Dome oh yeah which was kind of like a I guess like a spa you know the space shuttles that come down to earth it kind of looked a bit like that didn't yeah um like a landing module yeah like a landing module and they what did what did they make it off fiberglass or something yeah oh my God you could smell it from where we were still and they were like stick your head in that so we stuck it you stuck your head in first took a whiff and I did it afterwards oh my God dizzying genuinely dizzying I'm high I'm still high from that moment if anyone's ever been in like a a surfboard shop where they like make the surfboards yeah it smells like that it just smell exactly like that and they bizarre I just burped on I thought that was what that was that was disgusting hopefully that didn't get picked up apologize sorry guys sorry if you heard that cut that out anyway um it's not getting cut uh it they had to spend the whole run down in that thing so I think those guys are a little bit waved yeah I'm glad we I'm glad we were just a team of two and had two seats because I kind of felt bad some people that pushed the Soap Box thing down yeah like running after it for like 50 meters and it was a hot day that's true like um most people was like a team of four and two would push two would be in it I think that's standard isn't it to have two people in the so box and then a team that will push and Chase it down probably chase down chip and freezies yeah funny it was funny as well the way he was running because I guess it was like a it was like Looney Tunes the way he had his arms up like that chasing them down to be fair there are people I felt more bad for he talking about some of the injuries of the day oh my God and this is the thing like good gosh man we were already nervous then we were then we got to S see our um vehicle which they had made some mods to by the way so put me at ease a little bit they put foam in the place where my head would smash oh yeah so I felt about that yeah um they didn't they were going to cut out the wheel arches so we could turn more but they didn't I'm glad they I actually think that worked in our favor in it did um and they were actually slagging it off when it went up on towards stage they were speaking about it on Mike and they were like they can't turn properly they can't see over it and I was thinking oh no they're slagging off our thing they were talking about our buckets on the back and stuff I don't know if they were slagging off the buckets or just speaking about I just heard bucket like they're talking about ours oh my god um but it actually worked in favor and then there was screens up showing the first runs and it took a while it like an hour or two after we got there till the first run um but did you see the Sheep one no I didn't see any of the big ones but that's a bad one there was a sheep we I was watching a sheep go down um it was just before you did your stunt I think and it got all the way to the end and then at full speed flipped over onto their necks and I think it was one of them that broke their collarbone and it looked awful and after seeing that me and pieace was stood together we were like I we genuinely don't want to go down after seeing that he was [ __ ] it I was [ __ ] it um and then not only that I think other people must have like been bruised or whatever but the other big one that we heard about is we when we got to the start line we were there waiting for like 10 minutes and it was cuz the person who went down before us got knocked out so that's crazy yeah which I didn't see I don't think we'll ever see any footage of that but I don't know what vehicle it was or anything I just heard that they got knocked out that's why we were up there for ages yeah I mean it was going down insanely fast yeah it look I mean it looks quick on camera but it doesn't look nearly as quick as it feels yeah when you're in that thing oh my goodness and you can barely see in front of you you're bouncing all over the place you're hitting these jumps there are bits where there's foam that like splashes you in the face you have a few seconds of blindness yeah it's mental it it to best describe it definitely feels faster than sitting in a car at 60 MPH I'd say faster than it feels sitting in a car going 100 yeah cuz you're so exposed to we've never gone 100 I've been on the auto bar in Germany okay fair um but yeah you're exposed so it just feels so quick but we were quick insanely Qui insanely quick I think everyone we were the first of the creators to go up everyone thought we were going to just crash yeah or just be crap and slow there was so many comments so many DMs I got afterward was like [ __ ] fair enough before we even went down though before we get cuz we we will react we'll show you us going down yeah but I think we should tell them actually maybe should we hit play and then we'll pause at certain bits to be like explainer yeah I'll tell you what it plays it goes all the way through and then they do it in slow-mo afterwards we can on the slow-mo we'll do some explanation okay here we go batch and Arthur we had the podcast sticker oh it was such a good sticker on the side which was really cool and they zoomed in out loads for the YouTube video which is great yeah was all over the stream which was ideal although you cannot see podcast there until someone shads over it yeah someone's just shattering we were stood up there for ages genuinely yeah because someone had just been knocked out looking down this hill that was just so steep it's not funny but look at that thing that's so impressive it's so well built I can't believe it and I'm I'm gutted because I actually wanted to say to the we had a little bit of help from the Red Bull Engineers yeah I wanted to say thank you to them more just be like what did you see that that was really good yeah if anyone knows anything by any chance please pass on our thanks because yeah they they helped us hopefully they watched it and saw a great deal uh but we did do a lot I mean we did spend two full days building this thing and printing it up and stuff so yeah which you'll obviously see in the Vlog I'll talk about I'll talk about something later cuz there's um this was posted to Tik Tok and there's some funny comments on there really basically yeah basically calling us desk dwellers what so this is our performance so this performance we didn't know we no was supposed to do we we were told to choose a piece of music so we chose something like Space Odyssey style but we had no idea that meant we had to perform yeah and like like she's saying like there are points for performance and we knew about 10 minutes beforehand that this 30 second period of Music we'd have to Performance so we were like let's just do something simple gum shields in the mouth bow and get in and they were harsh they gave us a three but that also also counts to the way the vehicle looks so I think three is Harsh yeah but here we go performance score 22 poor but this is when we started racking up speed the steering was really weird as well cuz it changed as we got quicker and we were just bouncing as we went down like we'd hit a ramp and oh my goodness like almost front flipped that around we Whi around the corner and our our genuine one of our wings like clipped a ha Bell and just sliced through it that one sliced through the hay Bell I was thinking as we came down I swear I would have hit that side had I not hit that side and then nailed the braking and you said you could smell burnt rubber when you were breaking on that thing cuz I was like tickling the brakes like before a jump every now and then I do one all as we approached the chicane I pulled it yeah um but they said as we were going down in the commentary like yeah oh this feels fast usually you're hitting like low 20s here and it comes up on the side and we're hitting 30 km an hour yeah we were going and we were oh my goodness I'm glad you didn't break touch the break though we didn't need it yeah yeah I mean you did a did a little bit but I mean the others obviously touched it a lot more yeah I basically kept us at a speed where I was like this is very close to the line of like where we can make this corner at the speed because at the end of the day as a race and I was like we don't want to get up at the end and just be like oh like a couple of the soite boxes made it halfway down and just like stopped completely yeah and they were like having to like like I don't know like Shake It Forward it's so awkward like we did speak and we did say we'd actually rather crash going pretty quick than come to a grinding hle because it's just not good material yeah like we did it for Content wants to see that it's for a video we know representing creators at half time yeah so many people watching we've got a space shuttle that is designed at a velocity of 17,000 500 mph yeah so we were like you know hitting to be honest when they gave us those uh cuz we asked for special helmets that covered the face yeah when they gave me that I felt invincible and I thought oh [ __ ] it and we had gum Shields that we like ped poured into boiling water molded them before and molded them so we we felt pretty safe yeah I mean but still at 30 we weren but I don't have miles hour or kilm an hour I think it was mph I actually do really yeah but whatever it is at 30 like genuinely like just whacking your head against something solid is well I mean someone did get knocked out and broke it was terrifying yeah they they then do a slow-mo okay let's watch the slow-mo and we can break down exactly because I was thinking there was a point in the chicane when we really Whi round I was thinking why did that happen it was because the back right wheel wasn't on the ground when we were coming up to the chicane so when it touched the the ground it turned us into a corner so I was like [ __ ] and I had to spin it around one way and then back around the other way oh that's why we had that major wobble yeah and you can see it it's like it's cuz one of the wheels wasn't on the ground okay let's let's watch and like in the first one we'll try and go for the audio listeners kind of describe what we're seeing yeah so the first jump yeah we it was a heavy a heavy bit of Kit as well we definitely had one of the heavier ones it and it was like so we got through here the back that wheel wasn't on the ground so like had to correct it well the chicane of just having to go really quick left and then really quick right after yeah and then this pit we hit a bunch of stairs and bch basically grinds on the right hand of them it's cuz afterwards we had to be on the right hand side so I was thinking I can't turn directly after I'm going to have to turn on the ramp like the CL the the course is split in two with like steps on the left and straight on the right and we go down the steps but like half dangling off yeah you have a choice whether to do jumps or not obviously we were going to do the jumps cuz you get docked time um no they add time on if you go round cuz it's a bit unfair yeah but we you were just like let's head it yeah and after the first jump it it looks like we really jump around I don't know about you but in it it didn't feel that bad I I think I'm the exact opposite cuz I was going flying and my bum still Hur May was our positioning or cuz I was holding on to this when yeah I had nothing to hold on to I was just sat on a blue seat I re yeah I reckon that's what it was cuz it kept me like sort of planted you fix and you're in the center so with us like when when you go off the Jump the nose sort of goes down yeah it did and then the back col kicks up into the air and then slams down and because I'm at the back you really got you know I've got a lot further to fall and I just got whacked and my butt like when I sit on the sofa like no I can feel it bruised on I was actually un unscared I was absolutely fine yeah God it was um after that first jump though I got a lot more confidence in the run I was thinking oh that was fine I can we can do all the [ __ ] jumps yeah I just got full speed no I rate it I'm so glad you just sent it cuz and you I mean you didn't have a choice sending it yeah you just you na yeah exactly you could SL down but uh I they miked us did they mic you up CU they miked me up but I said nothing the whole run yeah why would you you couldn't because the thing is I was so focused I think it's because we went so quick because there's a Red Bull posted a video on their Tik Tok page where because they miked up chip and freezy and um it's off chip speaking to freezy and he's like on the brakes off the brakes okay we're going to go around this now and I think it's CU they were using the brakes and communicating about the brakes that they had stuff to say but because we were just you told me before you weren't going to touch the brake so I thought okay he's really not there's no point saying anything and you know whether it's a Brak or not so I was just thinking I'm just going to drive I was literally only thinking like I'm only going to slow us down if I feel like at this speed we either can't hit that jump properly or can't go around the corner and I was just tickling it and it was only at the end like I was like I've got to wait until we cross the finish line before I can break and I just Ram it and because it was a friction break it's like literally a metal bar that just pulls down onto both of the rear wheels it just starts smelling like burning rubber actually nailed that was so good though cuz we literally landed after that last jump we landed and I was like [ __ ] the Finish is right there and all I could hear was I just knew he pulled that thing so hard we came around the corner and didn't touch a single thing because he broke just in time yeah and the thing was untouched like the they said they it could get sent back to one of us so I send it to my house um I got I didn't tell you this yet I got a DM from someone saying I'm just about to watch your soap box get destroyed what no it's been graveyard we took it to a graveyard but we put it to one side no they told us we could have it uh yeah oh the guy might be lying I I pray he is cuz that's so harsh but I saw it in the DM request I was like [ __ ] surely not we should M message Adam but I think a big part of the reason we couldn't speak or do much else is because we weren't so full s we did that in 36 seconds chip and freezy were the second fastest in our group I think and they were 44 seconds yeah so we were we were literally seven or eight seconds I mean I don't exactly know what their milliseconds were but we were seven or eight seconds faster than them and I mean the difference like you watch them go down and they're sort of doing a decent speed but I thought them being go- karters you know they've got their Senor frogs they race every year yeah I was like they're going to bomb it too yeah but they kind of just played it relatively safe I mean good time time but like I do think we we absolutely Center and we had this guy come up to us at the end like should you say yeah say and this guy comes up to us and go don't like freak out now or anything um but we're checking because we genuinely think this was one of the fastest of all time yeah like fastest soap boxes ever he thought we hit the world record run right there and then and they cuz they had to check them by the millisecond yeah and we were a fraction of a second off being the fastest ever 1 18 of a second something something ridiculous like that and uh so I think we were either the second or the third fastest of all time yeah there were rumors at the end of the day and I don't know whether it was Chip just winding us up being like the last car of the day was slightly faster yeah they they yeah they said something like the last car of the day actually broke the world record so if that is true we're the third fastest of all time if not we are the second fastest of all time to go down that track and we rather the second of the first fastest of this year's event which is just just the coolest thing ever like we to be fair have also like we couldn't have picked a design that was Better Built For Speed I mean it's so people were saying this is this is aerodynamic and I was thinking it is but I don't think it's going to make that much of a difference in this yeah scenario and whether it did or not or whether it was just the fact that you didn't break much yeah I think that was it it was quite heavy it was heavy as well you had one of the heavy ones so at the start you can tell this was one of the things we were saying we should have got two people cuz we only got Jake to shove us at the start yeah and when when you start off just going down the ramp it took us a while to pick up speed if we had sort of been shoved and started at a really good pace and kept it at that pace I genely think we could have built the record but I'm I want to do it again same that's why I wanted to keep that cuz we could have just modified that and send it down we know that's a winning formula yeah make it into a submarine or something yeah exactly that thing works but Red Bull like they they we had such a great time with them they did so much for us and we were so grateful and we were speaking see nothing guaranteed and stuff um but they were saying there's a potential for us to come back and maybe do the one that you know you launch off a ramp and you're like 10 m up whatever and you've got to Glide over water as far as possible there and there are loads of other sort of like cool Red Bull events and stuff to do so um yeah I think we make this a thing if we can do just more of this stuff yeah I loved it it was genuinely one of the best things I've ever done I think yeah and there's a the the the only annoying thing is there's so much footage it's going to take a while to get the video together because Red Bull have Clips we have clips they've sent us a hard driver clipse I've got stuff on my phone B has stuff on his phone Jake has stuff on his phone so we'll gather it all together but when the video comes out I think it'll be such a good one because so good the whole experience was just the coolest thing ever and we couldn't be more grateful to Red Bull for that the perfect run at the end we just ended it so perfectly the whole experience I think yeah it couldn't have gone better afterwards I so cool yeah I couldn't get the helmet off though we got to the very end I could not figure out how to unclip the helmet so I did the interview with a helmet on yeah they could not hear thing as well you hear me go oh the atmosphere was electric and I know he said the electric thing and then we um yeah we Kenny from South Park hanging out with us we to I finally I got someone to take my helmet off we drove the soap box down to the graveyard thing but they said they weren't going to break it we put it to one side it might be broken and then we had to run up the hill because we had to get on the live stream to do an interview straight afterwards yeah and oh my God you realize how far we came down Running Up That thing that it was 400 to 500 M back up a relatively Steep Hill on a very hot day we were exhausted from the day before and uh being out the night before and having the race and all that kind of stuff and in boiler suits and it was a hot day boiling I got so sweaty at the top we got to the top and we were like that was just a thoroughly unenjoyable experience but it was cool cuz there I heard I don't I think I told you at the time I heard a kid as we ran past he was like oh my God racers felt like an F1 driver in that moment yeah that really went straight to my head yeah I bet we felt a lot cooler than we probably looked just running around in boiler suits and I'm my Red Bull cap on we had shades on surprised he hasn't got that red bull cap on today by the way that thing you're going to have to peel that off his dead body I've been wearing it so much lady just cuz I I love it it's good for green screen stuff that is the one thing I I might start wearing cuts out the wispy hair yeah it cuts out the wispy hair which kind of ruin the illusion I've got that real issue whereas when you wear a cap it's like a smooth round thing and the green screen just looks much better I see my editors have all been like wear a cap as often as possible oh so they even so they tell you what to do huh you're not Char they do interesting well I keep my editors locked away and then I give them footage and they're like please I want to see my family please share an editor now no King yeah we do shout out king great honestly fantastic worker his work ethic he sent me a video and like couple hours later he was like actually here's a V2 I watched it back and I I could see some improvements I was like kind of mentality and he's not been editing for long either yeah so he's I think all selft talk cow's amazing as well they're both just great honestly yeah people listening a fascinated here about how much we love our tives yeah let's get back to the Red Bull so box race so then we did our interview at the very top which is when cuz we went down first so we were Then followed by all the other creators who did the race um we didn't really get to see them at the time cuz we were running up the the bloody Hill but um we got to the top they all slowly joined us did their interview and then it got revealed the scores so there were different categories we were like ranked on or scored on the first being performance and I I'm pretty sure the style of the cart comes into that as well yeah and so we what did we get like what was it 20 22 it was really bad 40 terrible score we got like a seven a six a three and a five something like that whoever gave us a three what's wrong with you huh they were grumpy though cuz I think chip and frezy got something like 39 and the guy that person gave them a nine apparently they were really mean scoring the whole time that's crazy but chip and fzy knew about the performance thing which we I know how they knew about that we had no idea chip and freezy raced as a box of 20 chicken McNuggets yeah and they brought like homemade barbecue sauce and just on each other yeah pry just poured it all over them it was good like as performances go that's like the best thing you can do yeah so they got a really great score like almost perfect just one guy dropped a mark on it um 39 out 40 but I feel like I feel like giving us a three was really harsh I know our performance wasn't great but the music was very fitting yeah and maybe we should have pretended we were on the moon with our jumping or something like walking like that he just had such a cool carard we had so little time to think about it yeah I feel like it was harsh though look at our car that was really cool yeah maybe we were also ranked harshly because we were the first creators to go down maybe maybe we would have got a better score if we were towards the end I don't know yeah maybe but um yeah we did really bad on that and then you get obviously score for your speed in finishing the race yeah which we smashed Everyone by like four four seconds or something or seven or eight yeah like seven or eight seconds Quicks first to second and the second fastest and I think Becky and pieace got a dnf finish either they hit a minute or they stopped completely yeah cuz they went over one of the jumps and then front end broke so the wheel wasn't really like or the front was touching the floor dragging across the floor so they just I felt bad for them they just ped all across but at least they got down in one piece that's the they were just in a pint glass yeah it was really cool and they had a they had a cool performance Becky poured pint on um pie which was funny um con and Jack had a cool performance they just had some Swagger about it like yeah it was cool oh yeah we got picked on the performance but they did struggle getting into the vehicle did they yeah CU it's really hard and narrow to get in um they got they everyone got all the way to the end by the way Colin Jack fell over at the end there thing just went on its side they they chose thinner Wheels I didn't think they were going to make it that far yeah they also had a really high center of gravity cuz their car was thin and quite tall yeah like if you looked at their car it looked like it wanted to fall over it was a bit like chitty chitty bang bang but like elongated yeah so they did really well to and they were drifting it as well it was drifting so they did really well to get to the bottom um but yeah we were like seven seconds quicker than seven or eight seconds quicker than the second fastest which was it chip and freezy or was it Con I think it might have been no chip and frezy was Heavy wasn't it to be fair so that would move um and then there was People's Choice which we said we won 49% and was those were those those three so I think the reason so we ended up coming third we came third out of the four I just think it wasn't like cuz we won two out of three categories you'd think we'd win but I think they gave they were sort of like weighted yeah so because we were so low on the performance us being ahead on the other two bits didn't pull us up enough I think it's really harsh I think it doesn't matter at all by the way I don't I don't care but I do think it's harsh that performance is weighted so heavily in comparison to like speed has got to be the most important thing yeah like it's a race I know that's that's the way we were looking at it that's because it's a race come on we were focus on the race as aspect obviously soap boxes isn't Formula 1 is supposed to be like a bit of fun cretive stuff which you do get um but yeah hard winning two out of three categories and winning the race comfortably well it was more like at in the moment when they were revealing who won out of us four I was thinking in my head oh we've definitely won yeah after winning we got like 50% of the votes for People's Choice so it was a landslide Victory they said and a landslide Victory on the speed so I was thinking we have smashed those two things so surely we've gained loads of points for that yeah and we came third I was like I'm actually quite shocked by that I in my head I was thinking oh my God we've won yeah but um no it was so means anything like there's I don't there's nothing for it yeah I was just surprised but genuinely so it was so good yeah it was it was definitely definitely one of the best things I've ever done I was so glad that we did it I can't wait for the proper video to come out and have it all like a documentary s of documented archive just being like Oh I can look back at that video that was a banger yeah oh it was it was really good um then we stuck around and watched some public racing um and yeah there was it was it was nice there was a nice like area where you could get food and stuff and the worms showed up oh yeah lots of the patreon supporters a couple of N and non patreon people showed up lots of podcast people I'm guessing everyone there was podcast listeners because I didn't really put it on any platform no I think it it was all podcast we spoken about on the on on the podcast and in the patreon group chat quite a lot yeah and that was pretty much it so thank you well regardless if it's yeah thank you guys for coming along cuz it was so nice speaking to everyone great really great to have your support um yeah and yeah you guys were there for most of the day just like stood by our um what do you call it Soap Box stood by our Soap Box we were coming over when we could to say hi and stuff yeah everyone got photos we oh my goodness quite a lot of people wanted us to draw tattoos for them oh dear and we are not artistic no we're close yeah I'm a letter away but I not draw sa in my life and I was like the only thing I could think of was the rocket emoji yeah that was pretty good to be fair I was trying to draw them but getting the three little things at the bottom and the fire I was like I was like show this to your artist and they'll get what I'm trying to draw yeah they'll understand I mean I just ended up drawing flowers CU it's the easiest thing to draw it's got nothing to do with me a lot of art what just happened you just got bored of your own conversation I just yawned I was hoping you take it off me really quickly cuz I yawned no someone asked for a cameo once where they were like can you draw something for us to do a tattoo and I did a a ringed planet oh nice and oh my goodness trying to get cuz obviously if you put the circle there first the ring that goes in front like cuts through lines and it looks crap so you've kind of got to start with the ring but obviously just as the ring curves back around you have to stop and then you have to imagine where the sphere is going to be and oh my goodness I burnt through about half this notebook trying to get one that just looks semi-reasonable so whoever invented Saturn fair enough yeah exactly that must have been difficult and Uranus yep that's also ringed yeah um many too many rings yeah I've got a ring do you oh yeah and that weekend batch proposed to me so I said yes no I'm talking about my ass what anyway um it was it was a different kind of proposition to the one you were thinking of yours is way cuter than mine and I said no oh hell no I just got that that's disgusting cuz I was like on Saturday night we were just chilling we were like go we're exhausted yeah and I was like do you want to just stay around and Bach was like yeah so we played fornite and watch scary movies yeah he took me to get sushi again yeah we went to sticks and Sushi again but I was like I kind of want to make more videos but we were just so tired yeah I it was too late you just what you made me watch horror stuff we we watched a bunch of scary videos on YouTube like real ghost sightings and short horror movies and I was like I've wanted to do videos like that with you ages I was like then was the perfect time but our energy was just shock yeah we'll do it we'll definitely do it another time though CU people just love that love that horror game yeah is entertaining to watch other people get scared people don't want to watch you have fun they want to watch you cringe and be scared people enjoyed us having fun of Minecraft true but you were scared of I died like five six times I'm not very good clearly everyone's making fun of me did I die once I didn't I don't think no but your spirit died at one point hell no my spirit my spirit was always my spirit were through the roof um when I was getting attacked by Leona Lewis and I was hiding in the house turns out Leona Lewis can't go in water so I should have just gone in water I saw that comment yeah thanks for that thanks for the comment I'm actually going to use that logic and I I already want to film episode three right now do you yeah it was so fun we'll do it this week actually it's so fun like I enjoy playing it we're just loading up M fil although he needs a he needs a setup can we can we tell this boy to put some money towards a proper setup he plays on his PlayStation so we have to play Bedrock Edition so I can't use my nice shaders that make the waters and everything look clean and all the like graphics and stuff you know the like it's T's water we're keeping it the graphics upgrades are insane look just just a bit enjoy a humble bit of like Minecraft where it's nostalgic not everything has to be polished yeah okay fine um but no it was it was really good fun and it is it is I do love that we can just do that kind of stuff and just play a game and it would be fun yeah um we can just like high five when we want yeah anyway um back to let's go back in time to um the end of the race he wet himself no he didn't he didn't no he didn't but um I just want to make sure that we covered everything no because we didn't speak about um the stunt the stunts oh yeah you should tell them about the stunt they they just flung on you they didn't tell you until yeah they didn't tell me about this before and they made me sign my rights away yeah and it it was they had already Ked off the live stream so you just had to do it yeah um we basically batch got nice one he got pulled aside and they were like oh is the driver we're testing your reflexes yeah and what did they do they so she dropped a ruler and you just had to grab the ruler um as soon as she dropped it and just see how many centimeters you let drop to judge your reaction time I didn't do I think I came second actually nice but on the practice I failed uh so I was like oh that was nice and peaceful and fun I wonder what mine's going to be and they get me and they they I put this heart monitor on and I was like what they put this heart monitor on me put me in the middle of this cage and this dude called like Douglas or something comes up in this massive dirt bike and just goes like I'll lie down in the middle and I was like I know exactly where this is going got R to me and Jack just start planking and he's sort of in this giant he giant of a man I swear he's like 6'4 in this massive dirt bike and he's sort of there like on one wheel bouncing the like wheel like an inch from my head and I'm like if he just if anything misjudges he crushes my skull yeah like we we we lose one of the Bright Young talents of this generation and you as well wait what do you mean well they'd get Jack and you oh yeah yeah good old Jack and then then he was doing like wheelies around your head like just driving past full speed past his head yeah it was giving me the E actually see lie down there insane and I was just like well I'm playing it cool cuz that's like the name of the game it'd be cringe if I got up and I mean they they even said that if you get up you're at risk of just getting your head whacked cuz he's like an inch within your head so if you move it until you die yeah um and for like a minute he just did this and bounced around and yeah you were down there for a hot minute yeah we were there for ages just getting driven around I thought oh this is just getting this is just cruel now yeah I mean the poor boy is just lying there with a boner by the way uh because he gets that happens when he gets scared just why you think I keep getting you for horror games oh no i h on a Bo so he's just doing circling circling circling around Arthur on the floor it just I just felt a bit sorry for him in the end yeah uh so that was terrifying but good F night you know I'm up for anything I did realized the other day I'm just one of his friends who's just up for thing yeah you are actually someone could be like hey we're going to sit inside and watch movies tonight I be like fine or they can be like come on man we're robbing a bank I'm like cool they'll be like come on going glamping for the weekend do you is that real though if I said or okay let's go and watch the Euros tonight fine let's do it England England this is the last night of the group stage and all of a sudden the mood is really dead because we're just through now we've not played well either it's been pathetic there I said it and Harry Kane when you finally come on this podcast I've got some strong words to have with you mine mine Reserve is Gareth Southgate and not bringing BR and not playing kobby Mayu okay sorry Harry Kane actually way he's playing phenomenally to be not as if we're missing him but I'm mad at you Southgate yeah Italy um not playing too bad oh my goodness you're Italian did you watch the game last night and they scored the 90th plus eight to go through 98th minute it was the draw against Croatia oh that was heartbreaking poor the thing is they probably would have gone through anyway as one of the people third but um it's nice to confirm it you know yeah those moments of elation just so hard I think Italy just like a decent Striker anyway we won't bore you with football because a lot of people probably don't care about football yeah um but yeah I mean I'm getting into F1 now yes you are you watch drive to survive right yeah I've been watching drive to surv I need to get on that I really want to watch that um and hence why the Red Bull so box race I was really in I was really in my element Because You Loved does it make you love Red Bull as well the driver to survive does it follow a particular team it follows the mall and to be honest I haven't really got like a team I really um it's not like I really want to see this team win it's more people that you care about it's good to see Red Bull doing well but um I like Lando do you yeah you're Lando Norris enjoyer I'm a Lando enjoyer I like them all to be fair from what I've seen I like I get I like Char all oh cuz he kind he kind of looks like Charles mclair uh yeah I get uh Lando Norris a lot people always say like L nor I'm not sure about that boy and uh obviously like V stappen red the Red Bull goat what batch V stappen high five what does that even mean batch for steppen me batch for steppen batch for steppen me instead of Max for Sten batch for Sten it's one of the only times that batch really goes into anything batch for Sten what do people nickname you at school get tuna boy cuz I've brought in tuna fish boy uh right I was going duckling I was going for more names like name related like okay because I was oh name related I was I was called nothing I was just called Arthur I don't know why I said it like that I was called Nothing me yeah had no friends at school no I didn't really people would say ice as a joke ice yeah I just I didn't like not having a cool nickname name my sister one of my sisters calls me Izzy that's really cringe and feminine yo she watches these which is fine yo she watches these apologize down the lens right now I apologize nothing cuz it is it was true it was my truly held opinion and you should never apologize for being yourself sometimes she calls me Elizabeth as well what and I don't really know where she got that from she started that was a good what what yeah she watches it where she works as she was working she'll have it on Gizzy by the way I didn't get cancelled for what Sunday came out where I waterboarded Chris I haven't watched that and I was seriously worried I was genuinely like I thought you know just some people on the internet can be real yeah cuz they might be like oh you're making fun of water boarding people actually die from water boarding that's not what I exactly what I meant oh because okay you can't waterboard Chris because he doesn't like water and some people have been drowned before no okay of course because because you shouldn't do water boarding because it's like saying this is something you should it's really on impressionable fans and they'll be like okay I'm going to water board my mom tonight right maybe maybe that was like oh you shouldn't do that on to an impression I'm going to cancel you right now in that case um but no I I I just thought people would be like oh that was so mean of him they're not friends like just you know when you don't really know I mean obviously anyone who's seen Chris and videos knows how much abuse he puts me through I mean that guy abuse shs down on my neck like there's no tomorrow he's just I I'll just be chilling mid shootting he'll just go on my traps I mean granted they're juicy like they're nice muscular defined um have you ever thought you might just be a vampire I don't know hiding in plain sight you know you've got two Pierce marks right there you getting sucked by you've got really garlicky breath so I don't think I could be a a vampire cuz otherwise let's not start rumors like that otherwise I'd run there's not start rumors like that yeah my breath smells like daisies rainbows fairy tales I'm always chewing gum you are always chewing gum you're a real gum chewer yeah it Bo it boosts your confidence it's like putting a pair of sunglasses on I'm glad you don't do it on the podcast that would be the most annoying thing to listen to I have done it before but I just tuck it into my teeth like snz you don't mean that it's gum you don't mean that it's gum it's just weird you don't mean that it's gum gum started freaking out you know we were speaking about eggs the other day when you you're Midway through eating heads and you're like wait up yeah that's a period something ain't right that's a menstrual cycle raor and you're like yeah well that weirdly makes me like it more it's more than I knew you were a feminist me too come on yeah um we do like to bring awareness to the fact that women exist and have Cycles cuz I I I mentioned menstrual cycles all the time and I in one of my YouTube videos I was like I've got to stop saying menstrual cycles drop a comment if you think I should stop saying menual cycle everyone's like no and someone's like no it actually feels kind of feminist in a weird way cuz you're bringing light to the fact of cuz not everyone knows that women have I think everyone knows women have periods I found out 3 days ago watching your video you thought they had penis what I just thought they merely existed they merely exist in a in a realm Between Heaven and Hell where somewhere I love doesn't exist what the hell is this guy talking about women only exist in heaven women are heaven on Earth in my opinion how does that song Go heaven heaven for what it's worth women are heaven on Earth women are heaven on Earth brother in Christ you don't know what you're talking about right now I feel like we're getting on to Serious brain rot have you got anything else this is a rare batch prepared actually been praying preparing a lot um all of the episodes lately we've actually yeah hence why the quality's increased um no you just you do stuff in a different way I like like reading and talking reading well next episode's prepared by by Arthur and we'll be filming this directly after this one yeah we're doing complet transparency cuz batch is way on holiday and I'm going to be honest because I'm not I've not brought a spare pair of clothes anyway yeah me neither I don't want to hear no comments like why is he wearing that shirt again well they should be comenting CU alth this on an episode before quite frankly Arthur is either can I just say by the way I predicted what you were going to be wearing on the Red Bull meal I said Arthur will turn up in Black corduroy shorts um and a cream beige top shirt either worn as an overshirt with a white t-shirt underneath or just a shirt that's exactly what you were that's true I mean I have two other pairs of shorts I had a black like pair that were like had textured but the waistband thing snapped hard to find a good pair of shorts and then I had a nice like cream beige pair yeah um but they were just like I don't know linen and just ended up being a bit too and take it from a guy a sleepover with him he doesn't take them off he showers in them he goes me to take them off he was like take them off take them off take them off and I was like leave me alone yeah I was like please wash please wash you were just misreading me I wasn't saying take them off I was like please wash please wash anyway I I got the um I went into the patreon chat o uh little plug if you want to join the patreon go ahead there's a chat you get early access to episodes they get uploaded all the time and Bullies me in it yeah I do speak in there a fair amount um and I said to them we're filming two pods today can you guys reply to this message with any questions you have about the Red Bull Soapbox race we're going to be doing a whole episode on it uh because I thought there might be you know they might want to know more information on how it was built or how we were feeling and stuff and we could just give us some insight to that we've just explained the day how cool it was blah blah blah but they want to know the BTS let's see how insightful their questions can be okay did you hurt your nose that's [ __ ] rude no I didn't that obviously pointed at you no I didn't to be fair I did we had said in an episode prior that there was no foam and we are going to smash our faces in they put foam in we had good helmets on but we didn't actually crash so yeah we didn't crash so although his coxic bone is in pain yeah my coxics I'm absolutely fine because I'm not weak that's your tailbone um may ask for us highly evolved Apes that was from Brooke by the way I'll say names shout outs May says how SL why did you decide to build a rocket why I guess cuz it's very on brand for us have a look at our mugs yep yeah I mean we're just we're were're a Spacey themed podcast for no apparent reason we genely I'm sure we said in the earlier episodes we had no plans to be themed and bats just randomly one day went let's just make it space themed I just think it's cool yeah me I just think we both think it's cool we do we just need a cool set I think most of the things we do is because we think oh that's cool like the Soap Box we thought oh it'd be cool if we did a a ship or a ufi yeah just cuz it just cuz it's funny someone actually messaged in for the next one I've got like the submissions from the normal submissions page which everyone can enter just go to our any of our socials at Bach and arur and in the link there's like a a link tree and one of them is the submissions form and they were like what is your target audience because I can't really figure it out and I'm studying media at the moment target audience is such a big thing and I was like we don't have one we just come on talk about whatever we find interesting yeah and just hope that some people agree yeah and the people who do listen are actually very um diverse yeah and intelligent and cool and good looking and all this yeah um so yeah no um yeah and it's weird because we're not sitting there going oh let's talk about this to appeal to this audience which I think is I mean somehow it works so thank you guys for tuning into thanks cuz I think if you analyzed it in like a media class and it was like oh one minute you're doing brain rot meme references and the next you're talking about s men and then the next we're talking about Greek philosophy and the next one like Roman Parables and then religion they'd be like well someone's going to listen to the one episode like it and then not like the rest yeah but for some reason people just like listening to it all really I think we just decided that we're just going to do what we want like yeah whatever we enjoy yeah like whatever we enjoy and whatever we F feel like talking about we're just going to do it because if you want to enjoy something you've like if you want this if we want this podcast to continue we've got to enjoy it and if we're looking at it tactically like Oh Let's do an episode on this so we can boost our audience in this demographic it will start to feel like a like a real job well like you know I've heard from other people that do podcasts that their producers will be like today you're having this guest on and they're like well I've never watched the show they're on or Never follow them don't care about the story but I've got to do it's nice that we kind of have a just able to just go oh whatever and I do think the stuff we talk about is interesting broadly like if you're someone who like whenever we meet or speak to anyone who watches the podcast they're always like oh I love like these types of interesting discussions I feel like if you have a generally curious mind yeah like if if people who are listening to this and enjoy it are going to be similar to us in that respect and they you know even if they don't have a an interest in any of the particular like they might be like oh I love hearing about religion I'm a curious person but they don't care about Greek philosophy yeah or anything when we speak about the ship of thesis they're still like oh it's an interesting thought like it's an interesting thought so if you're one of those types of people like us then all that kind of stuff is interesting I guess thus our our demographic is people who just have similar interests to us yeah or like have a similar outlook on life or yeah that's the thing it's not even like it's just it's the broad value of curiosity I think who just like they like to laugh they like a bit of Comedy cuz we even get people who disagree with us and they're like oh I'm religious I completely disagree with this all but it was so interesting to listen to and so they're not listening because we're speaking about things that they find um they agree with or they enjoy you know but they're going like oh like I like the way these topics are approached or the way this is discussed and yeah so yeah hopefully we'll try and keep that up um hey no way we're going to brain Rock 24/7 after here or no anyway um Connie asked what was your top speed we don't actually know but what did you think it was 30 well when we passed we passed the speed gate at what will be one of the fastest points and that was 30 okay mil K yeah km pH um Leia says do you think you were going to make it to the Finish Line did you think you were going to make it to the Finish Line I genuinely um did not think we were going to make it past the chicane to be honest yeah cuz I didn't realize the course was as wide as it was however the as narrow as it was you mean actually yeah yes and no the thing is it's like driving a car when you're in a car it looks like you're you're bigger than the road but actually you can fit in much smaller of a gap than you expect yourself to be able to and so when you're actually in the soap box when we were doing the chicane in my head I thought we're going to catch one of the hay bals and go flying but actually although it was actually pretty close watching it back it felt like I had enough room to get round and stuff well two hay bals we did fully slic through well yeah if the wings were like flat fronted we would have we could have just spun out flown but because the wings were just like yeah we the first one and then the second one we through that yeah um but in no I didn't think we were going to make it down in one piece to be honest I thought either we'd get to the end and there' be damage or we'd fall over at the end or we just wouldn't make it to the end cuz it's not a like it more often than not you don't make it to the end yeah so I thought statistically I didn't I didn't think we were going to make it to the end so I was surprised were you or not it's so funny because at the start you're like I really don't know but be when you're going down it's so fast and you've got to think a lot like yeah I was just constantly thinking like just monitoring whether we were going too fast or not to be like bring the speed down ever so slightly and it's everything's happening so fast you don't have time to think oh are we going to make it like any hypotheticals it's just uh pull the break break on break off break off oh my goodness are we going to make this corner are we going to too fast at how are we doing like all this kind of stuff's rushing through your head I didn't even think about it I was no so yeah I had no thoughts in my head either I think we were just on reflex at that point yeah because every yeah like Arthur said everything's coming at you so quick like before the chane I thought I had enough time to put my hand up and wave and I was like [ __ ] no I don't yeah so that's when I came back onto the wheel and did that so we really don't have much time in that thing um then Phoenix asks what was the hardest and easiest part of the creative process oh hard po was coming up with an idea for what we wanted to do as the car because we took ages like they were asking us for the design for so long and we were like we really don't know it is hard when you can do literally anything it's like the classic situation where you've got too much Choice yeah so you can't make a decision and neither necessarily creative creative types yeah so we and also it's it's difficult as well when there's two people because obviously if one person wants to do something we we agreed yeah we we didn't have any friction on what we wanted to do we because we both didn't really have an idea but you've got to make sure that what one person comes up with the other person's happy to do um but I think from the go we just suggested either a space shuttle or UFO we were both happy with those two ideas and then we had a look at some pictures and we thought okay let's go for a space sh that was it yeah so I think that um it was hard in the beginning but to to be honest the decision process was pretty easy for us in the end I do think the hardest part although that was hard I think what was harder for us was probably um building the chassis don't you think it was harder than the woodwork yeah that's probably true cuz we didn't have any engineer assistance with the underly car yeah the actual chassis itself we just had bits like we didn't have instructions for half of it we were in in a big Warehouse with just a bunch of nuts bolts rods	course is split in two with like steps on the left and straight on the right and we go down the steps but like half dangling off yeah you have a choice whether to do jumps or not obviously we were going to do the jumps cuz you get docked time um no they add time on if you go round cuz it's a bit unfair yeah but we you were just like let's head it yeah and after the first jump it it looks like we really jump around I don't know about you but in it it didn't feel that bad I I think I'm the exact opposite cuz I was going flying and my bum still Hur May was our positioning or cuz I was holding on to this when yeah I had nothing to hold on to I was just sat on a blue seat I re yeah I reckon that's what it was cuz it kept me like sort of planted you fix and you're in the center so with us like when when you go off the Jump the nose sort of goes down yeah it did and then the back col kicks up into the air and then slams down and because I'm at the back you really got you know I've got a lot further to fall and I just got whacked and my butt like when I sit on the sofa like no I can feel it bruised on I was	8	6	4	course is split in two with like steps on the left and straight on the right and we go down the steps but like half dangling off yeah you have a choice whether to do jumps or not obviously we were going to do the jumps cuz you get docked time um no they add time on if you go round cuz it's a bit unfair yeah but we you were just like let's head it yeah and after the first jump it it looks like we really jump around I don't know about you but in it it didn't feel that bad	I I think I'm the exact opposite cuz I was going flying and my bum still Hur May was our positioning or cuz I was holding on to this when yeah I had nothing to hold on to I was just sat on a blue seat I re yeah I reckon that's what it was cuz it kept me like sort of planted you fix and you're in the center so with us like when when you go off the Jump the nose sort of goes down yeah it did and then the back col kicks up into the air and then slams down and because I'm at the back you really got you know I've got a lot further to fall and I just got whacked and my butt like when I sit on the sofa like no I can feel it bruised on	4,6,5	2,8,-2	4	6	5	2	8	-2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0g_xJvKEb8	4,108	-0g_xJvKEb8	2024-06-27 00:00:00	[Music] what's up everybody welcome back to episode 14 of the batch and Arthur podcast yay go thanks for joining everyone we have something to reveal yes we do I know you guys don't like it when Arthur has his mug on the couch because he tends to drop things don't you never dropped anything actually okay you dropped that th done remember that well you might have noticed I also have my mug on the sofa mhm wondering why who wants to know why should we tell them something to do with one like equals one Lara maybe something to do with that exactly you guys ready see what you reveal go way for audio listeners we have white mugs with our little cartoon characters on them that's right little will I didn't want to Cheers you and I've got my little handsome space guy come on yeah Lara surprised us with these this is a gift um mine shatterproof as well apparently oh it's not sh yeah he's got a plastic mug because we know what he's like I've sippy C the audio listeners actually little rubber cppy cup with two handles well actually when Arthur drinks from a mug show them how you do it I'll I'll commentate for this he uses two hands so he grabs on the like handle and then he grabs the other hand I drink everything with two hands especially tea and Pints yeah I don't really know what is there a reason for that or not safety I guess twice as balanced is that really if one arm stops working the other one's there as a fail safe well there you go that's why he does it guys so it makes sense all after all yeah um speaking of batch and Arthur this podcast design right here yeah this has been plasted on something recently what our rocket ship oh yeah guys we just got back from the Red Bull Soap Box race and we're alive 2024 we genuinely were not sure we were going to survive no I was but we did really scared we we turned up we got to see other people's cards um and there was basically two things going on so there's like a public race and then the Creator race was like a separate thing which is streamed on YouTube If you go on Red Bull's um YouTube channel and you go on under the live tab you can actually watch the full thing yeah we were like a half time race yeah it was Bas half time show yeah there was a few people who weren't happy about the Creator's uh racing cuz they thought we were mixed in with the public but it's like a whole separate thing like we can't win any awards over the public or anything like that yeah um but but we won the hearts of the public come on yeah we did win the hearts of the public there was a a couple of things that you were like rated on as creators and one of them was People's Choice and we got a landslide victory of 44% yeah it actually ended up on 49% 50% out of four teams we got 49 everyone rounds 49 thank you to everyone who voted for us we one of four teams but we're up against chip and freezy who have a big loving audience Becky and pieace who audience and then con from the siden huge loving audience and the guy who's our cameraman on the train video the siden that's right Jack was there as well went to with con they had cool out but uh we we got to Ali p uh that's my first time there you've been there before actually I think we should start the day before okay let's let's reel that [ __ ] back because we had another sleepover kind of yeah we did have another let's just say oh no we didn't really a hotel yeah we did not have a sleepover but what did we do where did we first meet we we met at the we met at the hotel at the hotel dropped our bags off Adam was there he's the Red Bull guy that was been looking after us and he took all the creators out to dinner yeah we to find the tell first yeah chopped a pint um both hands come on yeah then we got in a taxi we went to dinner we had a create a dinner um what did you eat pizza yeah I had a really really hot hot pizza but the thing I was enjoying the most was the football we had a massive screen in front of us oh yeah cuz France were playing Netherlands NE scen I felt kind of harsh cuz the the table was positioned in a way that only half of us could see the football and the other half were just watching us watching football yeah but no he they were watching a react video basically they got to see us live reacting In the Flesh um but the meal was really good the food was really good uh Jake was struggling Jake the guy works with um Arthur they both got the same Pizza he was struggling with the heat yeah he was [ __ ] [ __ ] struggling with the Pint as well got two pints steep was steaming no cuz he was so in denial Jake yeah Jake had a couple pints and he was gone we were like you are drunk he like I am not drunk and he was getting angry mad I'm not even drunk he's I haven't even done anything later he's doing karaoke so that's belting out karaoke with his phone to the to the mic with with voice note on my God it's so that was you singing those Tunes to someone yeah we yeah CU you've been to a place before should we say the name of the place or not I actually I don't remember it anyway okay we went to this place anyway Arthur's been there before it's um like a karaoke bar with uh like an arcade and bowling and there's a dance floor and like a bar and stuff like that yeah very good fun we all went there did some karaoke went there for Arthur Hill's birthday that's how I found out about it what a place it is a cool place actually um yeah did a bit of karaoke we were in there for a couple hours doing karaoke in the end yeah um belting at tunes by the way batch can sing No Arthur can sing yeah but I think people would assume that from but that goes without saying no but but Frank Sinatra came on and oh my goodness batch was just cooking that thing anyone can sing Frank arra welcome back Frank Sinatra he died and this is him reborn wasn't wasn't he heavily involved with the mafia Frank Sinatra so are you you're a quter Italian that's true but I can't admit that no not legally anyway oops they're going to come and get me try and come and get me watch me beat beat you all up actually I shouldn't say what if they do don't come and get me please I was just kidding I've got nothing to do with him he lives on 32 Italian back street oh my god that actually is my house number H what don't say that it's not that's my apartment number as well no we you're not finding out where we live um I'm going to move in with Arthur anyway we moved in together on Minecraft yeah sort of anyway back to karaoke we had fun at karaoke then we went home we didn't get back till 3:00 a.m. silly move because we had to be up early yeah we had it well not that early we had 10: a.m. taxi picks up yeah but we met at breakfast at 9:30 it was the most romantic breakfast of my life yeah um and then stayed at the Hilton Red Bull of class they put us in there they also like what a lovely experience not only did they take us to dinner they they paid for karaoke and everything like that they covered everything shout out to Red Ball I'm going to crack One open right now and they're actually delicious all these colored red balls my actual favorite is the summer edition you guys should actually try this this is not sponsored but I'm just saying this is not even the first thing I I did I went to salburg in Austria and did some Red Bull salburg video shooting with Chris MD um we did like penal sh outs in games with mads bistrup for their YouTube channel and then did a video in it was the the final one of christed uh every time you beat a Defender the defender gets upgraded that's right yeah and we start off with like Harry R Shaw as the worst Defender when all the way up to Champions League mads bistr who fantastic player I mean yeah you realize how like when you watch t uh football on TV you think oh I could do that yeah but then if you see a actual Pro in real life yeah like that makes sense why you went pro now actually we need to do more charity so that was fun that was fun there are a lot going on it's just timings cuz there's so many things going on during summer and that's usually when charity matches go down yeah but you got to work in the schedules either you're away or I'm away or there's a brand trip or something has to be submitted in time was crazy yeah but um no I'm sure we're going to do a lot more stuff with Red Bull as well so that's exciting um but anyway we then got the taxi to Alex Alexandra Palace Ali pal come on and um I've only just realized that's why it's Ali P really yeah I just thought that Ali P was the hill and Alexandre Palace was no way Ali now I've just heard it okay that's Ali P right anyway U you almost did a off the TV intro that right right so then we uh we got into the race so no we got into the Zone where the race was going on yeah and we got to have a little scout out all the public submitted soap boxes some really cool stuff in there yeah although there was one weird one because we rock up and there are like four girls gathered around water is essentially a double bed one girl just tucked up and you back like oh this is cool and she was like yeah it's really cozy get in we were like no I I ain't doing all that I'm sure though that you know that wasn't actually her like lying in it yeah I know you could tell something was weird under the covers but I was not getting involved what what what the hell um oh you can't see my soundboard I've got to pull this back so I can soundboard here yeah he hasn't got a soundboard yet thank goodness although I should no they all see the comments by the way Lara and Arthur see the comments and Lara even said into the group chat she was like I think we need to get bat of soundboard because of all the comments she sent me a message being like listen we've got one purchase a year we can authorize either we get cool mugs or batch gets a soundboard and I was like mugs mugs oh hell no I just think it's so much funnier when you do it yourself and go to I do think so but this is going to get worn down and eventually there's going to be a Hole uh oh audio listeners don't know what I'm doing I I just I pretend there's a soundboard and I just push the sof and make my I do it as well I do it in real life I'll be speaking to people when I'm BR but it doesn't make his much sense in real life just in a conversation he's just air poking stuff as he goes brh you know what's so funny as well I showed batch this someone one of you guys one of our listeners because cuz I you do it quite a lot but I do it all the time at you do the what yeah what that thing someone did a Tik Tok called whatting people in public so she goes into this petrol station goes to pay she goes like how much is that and he goes like Oh 1350 and she just goes what loud so loud just yells it in this man's face and everyone was like bad bad you guys have to recreate this it was so funny yeah and then Arthur was like we've got to do this we've got I don't know if I have the like what is it um social confidence to do that I'd be able to do it not yell it I thought it was a bit rude though the loud yelling not in a bad I'm not criticizing you I just able to do that like that myself I'd be like what I think sorry you got no no soup of the day what what when you have a camera on you though that you get a new found confidence in public like I found no no no in general I don't know if you agree with this in like a sidan video I Feel Like rules don't apply like social rules then don't apply cuz you've got a camer on you and you can do what you want whatever you want yeah I've only recently started being able to finally find it within myself to Vlog like when we were at wagas I was like this is actually fine yeah whereas before IID look at people vlogging in public and I go I admire you a lot cuz I can never do that it helps having people around you yeah although I feel like we do it with our phones it's a bit easier that's true whereas if people with their cameras out like facing their way I'm like oh my goodness I'd be so embarrassed yeah I think I would be as well especially if you got like a big rig on the end of that thing people are just admiring you your rig yeah both of them come on anyway um what speaking of the soap boxes that we saw um there was this one there was like these four guys like lying down chilling and they had this like Dome oh yeah which was kind of like a I guess like a spa you know the space shuttles that come down to earth it kind of looked a bit like that didn't yeah um like a landing module yeah like a landing module and they what did what did they make it off fiberglass or something yeah oh my God you could smell it from where we were still and they were like stick your head in that so we stuck it you stuck your head in first took a whiff and I did it afterwards oh my God dizzying genuinely dizzying I'm high I'm still high from that moment if anyone's ever been in like a a surfboard shop where they like make the surfboards yeah it smells like that it just smell exactly like that and they bizarre I just burped on I thought that was what that was that was disgusting hopefully that didn't get picked up apologize sorry guys sorry if you heard that cut that out anyway um it's not getting cut uh it they had to spend the whole run down in that thing so I think those guys are a little bit waved yeah I'm glad we I'm glad we were just a team of two and had two seats because I kind of felt bad some people that pushed the Soap Box thing down yeah like running after it for like 50 meters and it was a hot day that's true like um most people was like a team of four and two would push two would be in it I think that's standard isn't it to have two people in the so box and then a team that will push and Chase it down probably chase down chip and freezies yeah funny it was funny as well the way he was running because I guess it was like a it was like Looney Tunes the way he had his arms up like that chasing them down to be fair there are people I felt more bad for he talking about some of the injuries of the day oh my God and this is the thing like good gosh man we were already nervous then we were then we got to S see our um vehicle which they had made some mods to by the way so put me at ease a little bit they put foam in the place where my head would smash oh yeah so I felt about that yeah um they didn't they were going to cut out the wheel arches so we could turn more but they didn't I'm glad they I actually think that worked in our favor in it did um and they were actually slagging it off when it went up on towards stage they were speaking about it on Mike and they were like they can't turn properly they can't see over it and I was thinking oh no they're slagging off our thing they were talking about our buckets on the back and stuff I don't know if they were slagging off the buckets or just speaking about I just heard bucket like they're talking about ours oh my god um but it actually worked in favor and then there was screens up showing the first runs and it took a while it like an hour or two after we got there till the first run um but did you see the Sheep one no I didn't see any of the big ones but that's a bad one there was a sheep we I was watching a sheep go down um it was just before you did your stunt I think and it got all the way to the end and then at full speed flipped over onto their necks and I think it was one of them that broke their collarbone and it looked awful and after seeing that me and pieace was stood together we were like I we genuinely don't want to go down after seeing that he was [ __ ] it I was [ __ ] it um and then not only that I think other people must have like been bruised or whatever but the other big one that we heard about is we when we got to the start line we were there waiting for like 10 minutes and it was cuz the person who went down before us got knocked out so that's crazy yeah which I didn't see I don't think we'll ever see any footage of that but I don't know what vehicle it was or anything I just heard that they got knocked out that's why we were up there for ages yeah I mean it was going down insanely fast yeah it look I mean it looks quick on camera but it doesn't look nearly as quick as it feels yeah when you're in that thing oh my goodness and you can barely see in front of you you're bouncing all over the place you're hitting these jumps there are bits where there's foam that like splashes you in the face you have a few seconds of blindness yeah it's mental it it to best describe it definitely feels faster than sitting in a car at 60 MPH I'd say faster than it feels sitting in a car going 100 yeah cuz you're so exposed to we've never gone 100 I've been on the auto bar in Germany okay fair um but yeah you're exposed so it just feels so quick but we were quick insanely Qui insanely quick I think everyone we were the first of the creators to go up everyone thought we were going to just crash yeah or just be crap and slow there was so many comments so many DMs I got afterward was like [ __ ] fair enough before we even went down though before we get cuz we we will react we'll show you us going down yeah but I think we should tell them actually maybe should we hit play and then we'll pause at certain bits to be like explainer yeah I'll tell you what it plays it goes all the way through and then they do it in slow-mo afterwards we can on the slow-mo we'll do some explanation okay here we go batch and Arthur we had the podcast sticker oh it was such a good sticker on the side which was really cool and they zoomed in out loads for the YouTube video which is great yeah was all over the stream which was ideal although you cannot see podcast there until someone shads over it yeah someone's just shattering we were stood up there for ages genuinely yeah because someone had just been knocked out looking down this hill that was just so steep it's not funny but look at that thing that's so impressive it's so well built I can't believe it and I'm I'm gutted because I actually wanted to say to the we had a little bit of help from the Red Bull Engineers yeah I wanted to say thank you to them more just be like what did you see that that was really good yeah if anyone knows anything by any chance please pass on our thanks because yeah they they helped us hopefully they watched it and saw a great deal uh but we did do a lot I mean we did spend two full days building this thing and printing it up and stuff so yeah which you'll obviously see in the Vlog I'll talk about I'll talk about something later cuz there's um this was posted to Tik Tok and there's some funny comments on there really basically yeah basically calling us desk dwellers what so this is our performance so this performance we didn't know we no was supposed to do we we were told to choose a piece of music so we chose something like Space Odyssey style but we had no idea that meant we had to perform yeah and like like she's saying like there are points for performance and we knew about 10 minutes beforehand that this 30 second period of Music we'd have to Performance so we were like let's just do something simple gum shields in the mouth bow and get in and they were harsh they gave us a three but that also also counts to the way the vehicle looks so I think three is Harsh yeah but here we go performance score 22 poor but this is when we started racking up speed the steering was really weird as well cuz it changed as we got quicker and we were just bouncing as we went down like we'd hit a ramp and oh my goodness like almost front flipped that around we Whi around the corner and our our genuine one of our wings like clipped a ha Bell and just sliced through it that one sliced through the hay Bell I was thinking as we came down I swear I would have hit that side had I not hit that side and then nailed the braking and you said you could smell burnt rubber when you were breaking on that thing cuz I was like tickling the brakes like before a jump every now and then I do one all as we approached the chicane I pulled it yeah um but they said as we were going down in the commentary like yeah oh this feels fast usually you're hitting like low 20s here and it comes up on the side and we're hitting 30 km an hour yeah we were going and we were oh my goodness I'm glad you didn't break touch the break though we didn't need it yeah yeah I mean you did a did a little bit but I mean the others obviously touched it a lot more yeah I basically kept us at a speed where I was like this is very close to the line of like where we can make this corner at the speed because at the end of the day as a race and I was like we don't want to get up at the end and just be like oh like a couple of the soite boxes made it halfway down and just like stopped completely yeah and they were like having to like like I don't know like Shake It Forward it's so awkward like we did speak and we did say we'd actually rather crash going pretty quick than come to a grinding hle because it's just not good material yeah like we did it for Content wants to see that it's for a video we know representing creators at half time yeah so many people watching we've got a space shuttle that is designed at a velocity of 17,000 500 mph yeah so we were like you know hitting to be honest when they gave us those uh cuz we asked for special helmets that covered the face yeah when they gave me that I felt invincible and I thought oh [ __ ] it and we had gum Shields that we like ped poured into boiling water molded them before and molded them so we we felt pretty safe yeah I mean but still at 30 we weren but I don't have miles hour or kilm an hour I think it was mph I actually do really yeah but whatever it is at 30 like genuinely like just whacking your head against something solid is well I mean someone did get knocked out and broke it was terrifying yeah they they then do a slow-mo okay let's watch the slow-mo and we can break down exactly because I was thinking there was a point in the chicane when we really Whi round I was thinking why did that happen it was because the back right wheel wasn't on the ground when we were coming up to the chicane so when it touched the the ground it turned us into a corner so I was like [ __ ] and I had to spin it around one way and then back around the other way oh that's why we had that major wobble yeah and you can see it it's like it's cuz one of the wheels wasn't on the ground okay let's let's watch and like in the first one we'll try and go for the audio listeners kind of describe what we're seeing yeah so the first jump yeah we it was a heavy a heavy bit of Kit as well we definitely had one of the heavier ones it and it was like so we got through here the back that wheel wasn't on the ground so like had to correct it well the chicane of just having to go really quick left and then really quick right after yeah and then this pit we hit a bunch of stairs and bch basically grinds on the right hand of them it's cuz afterwards we had to be on the right hand side so I was thinking I can't turn directly after I'm going to have to turn on the ramp like the CL the the course is split in two with like steps on the left and straight on the right and we go down the steps but like half dangling off yeah you have a choice whether to do jumps or not obviously we were going to do the jumps cuz you get docked time um no they add time on if you go round cuz it's a bit unfair yeah but we you were just like let's head it yeah and after the first jump it it looks like we really jump around I don't know about you but in it it didn't feel that bad I I think I'm the exact opposite cuz I was going flying and my bum still Hur May was our positioning or cuz I was holding on to this when yeah I had nothing to hold on to I was just sat on a blue seat I re yeah I reckon that's what it was cuz it kept me like sort of planted you fix and you're in the center so with us like when when you go off the Jump the nose sort of goes down yeah it did and then the back col kicks up into the air and then slams down and because I'm at the back you really got you know I've got a lot further to fall and I just got whacked and my butt like when I sit on the sofa like no I can feel it bruised on I was actually un unscared I was absolutely fine yeah God it was um after that first jump though I got a lot more confidence in the run I was thinking oh that was fine I can we can do all the [ __ ] jumps yeah I just got full speed no I rate it I'm so glad you just sent it cuz and you I mean you didn't have a choice sending it yeah you just you na yeah exactly you could SL down but uh I they miked us did they mic you up CU they miked me up but I said nothing the whole run yeah why would you you couldn't because the thing is I was so focused I think it's because we went so quick because there's a Red Bull posted a video on their Tik Tok page where because they miked up chip and freezy and um it's off chip speaking to freezy and he's like on the brakes off the brakes okay we're going to go around this now and I think it's CU they were using the brakes and communicating about the brakes that they had stuff to say but because we were just you told me before you weren't going to touch the brake so I thought okay he's really not there's no point saying anything and you know whether it's a Brak or not so I was just thinking I'm just going to drive I was literally only thinking like I'm only going to slow us down if I feel like at this speed we either can't hit that jump properly or can't go around the corner and I was just tickling it and it was only at the end like I was like I've got to wait until we cross the finish line before I can break and I just Ram it and because it was a friction break it's like literally a metal bar that just pulls down onto both of the rear wheels it just starts smelling like burning rubber actually nailed that was so good though cuz we literally landed after that last jump we landed and I was like [ __ ] the Finish is right there and all I could hear was I just knew he pulled that thing so hard we came around the corner and didn't touch a single thing because he broke just in time yeah and the thing was untouched like the they said they it could get sent back to one of us so I send it to my house um I got I didn't tell you this yet I got a DM from someone saying I'm just about to watch your soap box get destroyed what no it's been graveyard we took it to a graveyard but we put it to one side no they told us we could have it uh yeah oh the guy might be lying I I pray he is cuz that's so harsh but I saw it in the DM request I was like [ __ ] surely not we should M message Adam but I think a big part of the reason we couldn't speak or do much else is because we weren't so full s we did that in 36 seconds chip and freezy were the second fastest in our group I think and they were 44 seconds yeah so we were we were literally seven or eight seconds I mean I don't exactly know what their milliseconds were but we were seven or eight seconds faster than them and I mean the difference like you watch them go down and they're sort of doing a decent speed but I thought them being go- karters you know they've got their Senor frogs they race every year yeah I was like they're going to bomb it too yeah but they kind of just played it relatively safe I mean good time time but like I do think we we absolutely Center and we had this guy come up to us at the end like should you say yeah say and this guy comes up to us and go don't like freak out now or anything um but we're checking because we genuinely think this was one of the fastest of all time yeah like fastest soap boxes ever he thought we hit the world record run right there and then and they cuz they had to check them by the millisecond yeah and we were a fraction of a second off being the fastest ever 1 18 of a second something something ridiculous like that and uh so I think we were either the second or the third fastest of all time yeah there were rumors at the end of the day and I don't know whether it was Chip just winding us up being like the last car of the day was slightly faster yeah they they yeah they said something like the last car of the day actually broke the world record so if that is true we're the third fastest of all time if not we are the second fastest of all time to go down that track and we rather the second of the first fastest of this year's event which is just just the coolest thing ever like we to be fair have also like we couldn't have picked a design that was Better Built For Speed I mean it's so people were saying this is this is aerodynamic and I was thinking it is but I don't think it's going to make that much of a difference in this yeah scenario and whether it did or not or whether it was just the fact that you didn't break much yeah I think that was it it was quite heavy it was heavy as well you had one of the heavy ones so at the start you can tell this was one of the things we were saying we should have got two people cuz we only got Jake to shove us at the start yeah and when when you start off just going down the ramp it took us a while to pick up speed if we had sort of been shoved and started at a really good pace and kept it at that pace I genely think we could have built the record but I'm I want to do it again same that's why I wanted to keep that cuz we could have just modified that and send it down we know that's a winning formula yeah make it into a submarine or something yeah exactly that thing works but Red Bull like they they we had such a great time with them they did so much for us and we were so grateful and we were speaking see nothing guaranteed and stuff um but they were saying there's a potential for us to come back and maybe do the one that you know you launch off a ramp and you're like 10 m up whatever and you've got to Glide over water as far as possible there and there are loads of other sort of like cool Red Bull events and stuff to do so um yeah I think we make this a thing if we can do just more of this stuff yeah I loved it it was genuinely one of the best things I've ever done I think yeah and there's a the the the only annoying thing is there's so much footage it's going to take a while to get the video together because Red Bull have Clips we have clips they've sent us a hard driver clipse I've got stuff on my phone B has stuff on his phone Jake has stuff on his phone so we'll gather it all together but when the video comes out I think it'll be such a good one because so good the whole experience was just the coolest thing ever and we couldn't be more grateful to Red Bull for that the perfect run at the end we just ended it so perfectly the whole experience I think yeah it couldn't have gone better afterwards I so cool yeah I couldn't get the helmet off though we got to the very end I could not figure out how to unclip the helmet so I did the interview with a helmet on yeah they could not hear thing as well you hear me go oh the atmosphere was electric and I know he said the electric thing and then we um yeah we Kenny from South Park hanging out with us we to I finally I got someone to take my helmet off we drove the soap box down to the graveyard thing but they said they weren't going to break it we put it to one side it might be broken and then we had to run up the hill because we had to get on the live stream to do an interview straight afterwards yeah and oh my God you realize how far we came down Running Up That thing that it was 400 to 500 M back up a relatively Steep Hill on a very hot day we were exhausted from the day before and uh being out the night before and having the race and all that kind of stuff and in boiler suits and it was a hot day boiling I got so sweaty at the top we got to the top and we were like that was just a thoroughly unenjoyable experience but it was cool cuz there I heard I don't I think I told you at the time I heard a kid as we ran past he was like oh my God racers felt like an F1 driver in that moment yeah that really went straight to my head yeah I bet we felt a lot cooler than we probably looked just running around in boiler suits and I'm my Red Bull cap on we had shades on surprised he hasn't got that red bull cap on today by the way that thing you're going to have to peel that off his dead body I've been wearing it so much lady just cuz I I love it it's good for green screen stuff that is the one thing I I might start wearing cuts out the wispy hair yeah it cuts out the wispy hair which kind of ruin the illusion I've got that real issue whereas when you wear a cap it's like a smooth round thing and the green screen just looks much better I see my editors have all been like wear a cap as often as possible oh so they even so they tell you what to do huh you're not Char they do interesting well I keep my editors locked away and then I give them footage and they're like please I want to see my family please share an editor now no King yeah we do shout out king great honestly fantastic worker his work ethic he sent me a video and like couple hours later he was like actually here's a V2 I watched it back and I I could see some improvements I was like kind of mentality and he's not been editing for long either yeah so he's I think all selft talk cow's amazing as well they're both just great honestly yeah people listening a fascinated here about how much we love our tives yeah let's get back to the Red Bull so box race so then we did our interview at the very top which is when cuz we went down first so we were Then followed by all the other creators who did the race um we didn't really get to see them at the time cuz we were running up the the bloody Hill but um we got to the top they all slowly joined us did their interview and then it got revealed the scores so there were different categories we were like ranked on or scored on the first being performance and I I'm pretty sure the style of the cart comes into that as well yeah and so we what did we get like what was it 20 22 it was really bad 40 terrible score we got like a seven a six a three and a five something like that whoever gave us a three what's wrong with you huh they were grumpy though cuz I think chip and frezy got something like 39 and the guy that person gave them a nine apparently they were really mean scoring the whole time that's crazy but chip and fzy knew about the performance thing which we I know how they knew about that we had no idea chip and freezy raced as a box of 20 chicken McNuggets yeah and they brought like homemade barbecue sauce and just on each other yeah pry just poured it all over them it was good like as performances go that's like the best thing you can do yeah so they got a really great score like almost perfect just one guy dropped a mark on it um 39 out 40 but I feel like I feel like giving us a three was really harsh I know our performance wasn't great but the music was very fitting yeah and maybe we should have pretended we were on the moon with our jumping or something like walking like that he just had such a cool carard we had so little time to think about it yeah I feel like it was harsh though look at our car that was really cool yeah maybe we were also ranked harshly because we were the first creators to go down maybe maybe we would have got a better score if we were towards the end I don't know yeah maybe but um yeah we did really bad on that and then you get obviously score for your speed in finishing the race yeah which we smashed Everyone by like four four seconds or something or seven or eight yeah like seven or eight seconds Quicks first to second and the second fastest and I think Becky and pieace got a dnf finish either they hit a minute or they stopped completely yeah cuz they went over one of the jumps and then front end broke so the wheel wasn't really like or the front was touching the floor dragging across the floor so they just I felt bad for them they just ped all across but at least they got down in one piece that's the they were just in a pint glass yeah it was really cool and they had a they had a cool performance Becky poured pint on um pie which was funny um con and Jack had a cool performance they just had some Swagger about it like yeah it was cool oh yeah we got picked on the performance but they did struggle getting into the vehicle did they yeah CU it's really hard and narrow to get in um they got they everyone got all the way to the end by the way Colin Jack fell over at the end there thing just went on its side they they chose thinner Wheels I didn't think they were going to make it that far yeah they also had a really high center of gravity cuz their car was thin and quite tall yeah like if you looked at their car it looked like it wanted to fall over it was a bit like chitty chitty bang bang but like elongated yeah so they did really well to and they were drifting it as well it was drifting so they did really well to get to the bottom um but yeah we were like seven seconds quicker than seven or eight seconds quicker than the second fastest which was it chip and freezy or was it Con I think it might have been no chip and frezy was Heavy wasn't it to be fair so that would move um and then there was People's Choice which we said we won 49% and was those were those those three so I think the reason so we ended up coming third we came third out of the four I just think it wasn't like cuz we won two out of three categories you'd think we'd win but I think they gave they were sort of like weighted yeah so because we were so low on the performance us being ahead on the other two bits didn't pull us up enough I think it's really harsh I think it doesn't matter at all by the way I don't I don't care but I do think it's harsh that performance is weighted so heavily in comparison to like speed has got to be the most important thing yeah like it's a race I know that's that's the way we were looking at it that's because it's a race come on we were focus on the race as aspect obviously soap boxes isn't Formula 1 is supposed to be like a bit of fun cretive stuff which you do get um but yeah hard winning two out of three categories and winning the race comfortably well it was more like at in the moment when they were revealing who won out of us four I was thinking in my head oh we've definitely won yeah after winning we got like 50% of the votes for People's Choice so it was a landslide Victory they said and a landslide Victory on the speed so I was thinking we have smashed those two things so surely we've gained loads of points for that yeah and we came third I was like I'm actually quite shocked by that I in my head I was thinking oh my God we've won yeah but um no it was so means anything like there's I don't there's nothing for it yeah I was just surprised but genuinely so it was so good yeah it was it was definitely definitely one of the best things I've ever done I was so glad that we did it I can't wait for the proper video to come out and have it all like a documentary s of documented archive just being like Oh I can look back at that video that was a banger yeah oh it was it was really good um then we stuck around and watched some public racing um and yeah there was it was it was nice there was a nice like area where you could get food and stuff and the worms showed up oh yeah lots of the patreon supporters a couple of N and non patreon people showed up lots of podcast people I'm guessing everyone there was podcast listeners because I didn't really put it on any platform no I think it it was all podcast we spoken about on the on on the podcast and in the patreon group chat quite a lot yeah and that was pretty much it so thank you well regardless if it's yeah thank you guys for coming along cuz it was so nice speaking to everyone great really great to have your support um yeah and yeah you guys were there for most of the day just like stood by our um what do you call it Soap Box stood by our Soap Box we were coming over when we could to say hi and stuff yeah everyone got photos we oh my goodness quite a lot of people wanted us to draw tattoos for them oh dear and we are not artistic no we're close yeah I'm a letter away but I not draw sa in my life and I was like the only thing I could think of was the rocket emoji yeah that was pretty good to be fair I was trying to draw them but getting the three little things at the bottom and the fire I was like I was like show this to your artist and they'll get what I'm trying to draw yeah they'll understand I mean I just ended up drawing flowers CU it's the easiest thing to draw it's got nothing to do with me a lot of art what just happened you just got bored of your own conversation I just yawned I was hoping you take it off me really quickly cuz I yawned no someone asked for a cameo once where they were like can you draw something for us to do a tattoo and I did a a ringed planet oh nice and oh my goodness trying to get cuz obviously if you put the circle there first the ring that goes in front like cuts through lines and it looks crap so you've kind of got to start with the ring but obviously just as the ring curves back around you have to stop and then you have to imagine where the sphere is going to be and oh my goodness I burnt through about half this notebook trying to get one that just looks semi-reasonable so whoever invented Saturn fair enough yeah exactly that must have been difficult and Uranus yep that's also ringed yeah um many too many rings yeah I've got a ring do you oh yeah and that weekend batch proposed to me so I said yes no I'm talking about my ass what anyway um it was it was a different kind of proposition to the one you were thinking of yours is way cuter than mine and I said no oh hell no I just got that that's disgusting cuz I was like on Saturday night we were just chilling we were like go we're exhausted yeah and I was like do you want to just stay around and Bach was like yeah so we played fornite and watch scary movies yeah he took me to get sushi again yeah we went to sticks and Sushi again but I was like I kind of want to make more videos but we were just so tired yeah I it was too late you just what you made me watch horror stuff we we watched a bunch of scary videos on YouTube like real ghost sightings and short horror movies and I was like I've wanted to do videos like that with you ages I was like then was the perfect time but our energy was just shock yeah we'll do it we'll definitely do it another time though CU people just love that love that horror game yeah is entertaining to watch other people get scared people don't want to watch you have fun they want to watch you cringe and be scared people enjoyed us having fun of Minecraft true but you were scared of I died like five six times I'm not very good clearly everyone's making fun of me did I die once I didn't I don't think no but your spirit died at one point hell no my spirit my spirit was always my spirit were through the roof um when I was getting attacked by Leona Lewis and I was hiding in the house turns out Leona Lewis can't go in water so I should have just gone in water I saw that comment yeah thanks for that thanks for the comment I'm actually going to use that logic and I I already want to film episode three right now do you yeah it was so fun we'll do it this week actually it's so fun like I enjoy playing it we're just loading up M fil although he needs a he needs a setup can we can we tell this boy to put some money towards a proper setup he plays on his PlayStation so we have to play Bedrock Edition so I can't use my nice shaders that make the waters and everything look clean and all the like graphics and stuff you know the like it's T's water we're keeping it the graphics upgrades are insane look just just a bit enjoy a humble bit of like Minecraft where it's nostalgic not everything has to be polished yeah okay fine um but no it was it was really good fun and it is it is I do love that we can just do that kind of stuff and just play a game and it would be fun yeah um we can just like high five when we want yeah anyway um back to let's go back in time to um the end of the race he wet himself no he didn't he didn't no he didn't but um I just want to make sure that we covered everything no because we didn't speak about um the stunt the stunts oh yeah you should tell them about the stunt they they just flung on you they didn't tell you until yeah they didn't tell me about this before and they made me sign my rights away yeah and it it was they had already Ked off the live stream so you just had to do it yeah um we basically batch got nice one he got pulled aside and they were like oh is the driver we're testing your reflexes yeah and what did they do they so she dropped a ruler and you just had to grab the ruler um as soon as she dropped it and just see how many centimeters you let drop to judge your reaction time I didn't do I think I came second actually nice but on the practice I failed uh so I was like oh that was nice and peaceful and fun I wonder what mine's going to be and they get me and they they I put this heart monitor on and I was like what they put this heart monitor on me put me in the middle of this cage and this dude called like Douglas or something comes up in this massive dirt bike and just goes like I'll lie down in the middle and I was like I know exactly where this is going got R to me and Jack just start planking and he's sort of in this giant he giant of a man I swear he's like 6'4 in this massive dirt bike and he's sort of there like on one wheel bouncing the like wheel like an inch from my head and I'm like if he just if anything misjudges he crushes my skull yeah like we we we lose one of the Bright Young talents of this generation and you as well wait what do you mean well they'd get Jack and you oh yeah yeah good old Jack and then then he was doing like wheelies around your head like just driving past full speed past his head yeah it was giving me the E actually see lie down there insane and I was just like well I'm playing it cool cuz that's like the name of the game it'd be cringe if I got up and I mean they they even said that if you get up you're at risk of just getting your head whacked cuz he's like an inch within your head so if you move it until you die yeah um and for like a minute he just did this and bounced around and yeah you were down there for a hot minute yeah we were there for ages just getting driven around I thought oh this is just getting this is just cruel now yeah I mean the poor boy is just lying there with a boner by the way uh because he gets that happens when he gets scared just why you think I keep getting you for horror games oh no i h on a Bo so he's just doing circling circling circling around Arthur on the floor it just I just felt a bit sorry for him in the end yeah uh so that was terrifying but good F night you know I'm up for anything I did realized the other day I'm just one of his friends who's just up for thing yeah you are actually someone could be like hey we're going to sit inside and watch movies tonight I be like fine or they can be like come on man we're robbing a bank I'm like cool they'll be like come on going glamping for the weekend do you is that real though if I said or okay let's go and watch the Euros tonight fine let's do it England England this is the last night of the group stage and all of a sudden the mood is really dead because we're just through now we've not played well either it's been pathetic there I said it and Harry Kane when you finally come on this podcast I've got some strong words to have with you mine mine Reserve is Gareth Southgate and not bringing BR and not playing kobby Mayu okay sorry Harry Kane actually way he's playing phenomenally to be not as if we're missing him but I'm mad at you Southgate yeah Italy um not playing too bad oh my goodness you're Italian did you watch the game last night and they scored the 90th plus eight to go through 98th minute it was the draw against Croatia oh that was heartbreaking poor the thing is they probably would have gone through anyway as one of the people third but um it's nice to confirm it you know yeah those moments of elation just so hard I think Italy just like a decent Striker anyway we won't bore you with football because a lot of people probably don't care about football yeah um but yeah I mean I'm getting into F1 now yes you are you watch drive to survive right yeah I've been watching drive to surv I need to get on that I really want to watch that um and hence why the Red Bull so box race I was really in I was really in my element Because You Loved does it make you love Red Bull as well the driver to survive does it follow a particular team it follows the mall and to be honest I haven't really got like a team I really um it's not like I really want to see this team win it's more people that you care about it's good to see Red Bull doing well but um I like Lando do you yeah you're Lando Norris enjoyer I'm a Lando enjoyer I like them all to be fair from what I've seen I like I get I like Char all oh cuz he kind he kind of looks like Charles mclair uh yeah I get uh Lando Norris a lot people always say like L nor I'm not sure about that boy and uh obviously like V stappen red the Red Bull goat what batch V stappen high five what does that even mean batch for steppen me batch for steppen batch for steppen me instead of Max for Sten batch for Sten it's one of the only times that batch really goes into anything batch for Sten what do people nickname you at school get tuna boy cuz I've brought in tuna fish boy uh right I was going duckling I was going for more names like name related like okay because I was oh name related I was I was called nothing I was just called Arthur I don't know why I said it like that I was called Nothing me yeah had no friends at school no I didn't really people would say ice as a joke ice yeah I just I didn't like not having a cool nickname name my sister one of my sisters calls me Izzy that's really cringe and feminine yo she watches these which is fine yo she watches these apologize down the lens right now I apologize nothing cuz it is it was true it was my truly held opinion and you should never apologize for being yourself sometimes she calls me Elizabeth as well what and I don't really know where she got that from she started that was a good what what yeah she watches it where she works as she was working she'll have it on Gizzy by the way I didn't get cancelled for what Sunday came out where I waterboarded Chris I haven't watched that and I was seriously worried I was genuinely like I thought you know just some people on the internet can be real yeah cuz they might be like oh you're making fun of water boarding people actually die from water boarding that's not what I exactly what I meant oh because okay you can't waterboard Chris because he doesn't like water and some people have been drowned before no okay of course because because you shouldn't do water boarding because it's like saying this is something you should it's really on impressionable fans and they'll be like okay I'm going to water board my mom tonight right maybe maybe that was like oh you shouldn't do that on to an impression I'm going to cancel you right now in that case um but no I I I just thought people would be like oh that was so mean of him they're not friends like just you know when you don't really know I mean obviously anyone who's seen Chris and videos knows how much abuse he puts me through I mean that guy abuse shs down on my neck like there's no tomorrow he's just I I'll just be chilling mid shootting he'll just go on my traps I mean granted they're juicy like they're nice muscular defined um have you ever thought you might just be a vampire I don't know hiding in plain sight you know you've got two Pierce marks right there you getting sucked by you've got really garlicky breath so I don't think I could be a a vampire cuz otherwise let's not start rumors like that otherwise I'd run there's not start rumors like that yeah my breath smells like daisies rainbows fairy tales I'm always chewing gum you are always chewing gum you're a real gum chewer yeah it Bo it boosts your confidence it's like putting a pair of sunglasses on I'm glad you don't do it on the podcast that would be the most annoying thing to listen to I have done it before but I just tuck it into my teeth like snz you don't mean that it's gum you don't mean that it's gum it's just weird you don't mean that it's gum gum started freaking out you know we were speaking about eggs the other day when you you're Midway through eating heads and you're like wait up yeah that's a period something ain't right that's a menstrual cycle raor and you're like yeah well that weirdly makes me like it more it's more than I knew you were a feminist me too come on yeah um we do like to bring awareness to the fact that women exist and have Cycles cuz I I I mentioned menstrual cycles all the time and I in one of my YouTube videos I was like I've got to stop saying menstrual cycles drop a comment if you think I should stop saying menual cycle everyone's like no and someone's like no it actually feels kind of feminist in a weird way cuz you're bringing light to the fact of cuz not everyone knows that women have I think everyone knows women have periods I found out 3 days ago watching your video you thought they had penis what I just thought they merely existed they merely exist in a in a realm Between Heaven and Hell where somewhere I love doesn't exist what the hell is this guy talking about women only exist in heaven women are heaven on Earth in my opinion how does that song Go heaven heaven for what it's worth women are heaven on Earth women are heaven on Earth brother in Christ you don't know what you're talking about right now I feel like we're getting on to Serious brain rot have you got anything else this is a rare batch prepared actually been praying preparing a lot um all of the episodes lately we've actually yeah hence why the quality's increased um no you just you do stuff in a different way I like like reading and talking reading well next episode's prepared by by Arthur and we'll be filming this directly after this one yeah we're doing complet transparency cuz batch is way on holiday and I'm going to be honest because I'm not I've not brought a spare pair of clothes anyway yeah me neither I don't want to hear no comments like why is he wearing that shirt again well they should be comenting CU alth this on an episode before quite frankly Arthur is either can I just say by the way I predicted what you were going to be wearing on the Red Bull meal I said Arthur will turn up in Black corduroy shorts um and a cream beige top shirt either worn as an overshirt with a white t-shirt underneath or just a shirt that's exactly what you were that's true I mean I have two other pairs of shorts I had a black like pair that were like had textured but the waistband thing snapped hard to find a good pair of shorts and then I had a nice like cream beige pair yeah um but they were just like I don't know linen and just ended up being a bit too and take it from a guy a sleepover with him he doesn't take them off he showers in them he goes me to take them off he was like take them off take them off take them off and I was like leave me alone yeah I was like please wash please wash you were just misreading me I wasn't saying take them off I was like please wash please wash anyway I I got the um I went into the patreon chat o uh little plug if you want to join the patreon go ahead there's a chat you get early access to episodes they get uploaded all the time and Bullies me in it yeah I do speak in there a fair amount um and I said to them we're filming two pods today can you guys reply to this message with any questions you have about the Red Bull Soapbox race we're going to be doing a whole episode on it uh because I thought there might be you know they might want to know more information on how it was built or how we were feeling and stuff and we could just give us some insight to that we've just explained the day how cool it was blah blah blah but they want to know the BTS let's see how insightful their questions can be okay did you hurt your nose that's [ __ ] rude no I didn't that obviously pointed at you no I didn't to be fair I did we had said in an episode prior that there was no foam and we are going to smash our faces in they put foam in we had good helmets on but we didn't actually crash so yeah we didn't crash so although his coxic bone is in pain yeah my coxics I'm absolutely fine because I'm not weak that's your tailbone um may ask for us highly evolved Apes that was from Brooke by the way I'll say names shout outs May says how SL why did you decide to build a rocket why I guess cuz it's very on brand for us have a look at our mugs yep yeah I mean we're just we're were're a Spacey themed podcast for no apparent reason we genely I'm sure we said in the earlier episodes we had no plans to be themed and bats just randomly one day went let's just make it space themed I just think it's cool yeah me I just think we both think it's cool we do we just need a cool set I think most of the things we do is because we think oh that's cool like the Soap Box we thought oh it'd be cool if we did a a ship or a ufi yeah just cuz it just cuz it's funny someone actually messaged in for the next one I've got like the submissions from the normal submissions page which everyone can enter just go to our any of our socials at Bach and arur and in the link there's like a a link tree and one of them is the submissions form and they were like what is your target audience because I can't really figure it out and I'm studying media at the moment target audience is such a big thing and I was like we don't have one we just come on talk about whatever we find interesting yeah and just hope that some people agree yeah and the people who do listen are actually very um diverse yeah and intelligent and cool and good looking and all this yeah um so yeah no um yeah and it's weird because we're not sitting there going oh let's talk about this to appeal to this audience which I think is I mean somehow it works so thank you guys for tuning into thanks cuz I think if you analyzed it in like a media class and it was like oh one minute you're doing brain rot meme references and the next you're talking about s men and then the next we're talking about Greek philosophy and the next one like Roman Parables and then religion they'd be like well someone's going to listen to the one episode like it and then not like the rest yeah but for some reason people just like listening to it all really I think we just decided that we're just going to do what we want like yeah whatever we enjoy yeah like whatever we enjoy and whatever we F feel like talking about we're just going to do it because if you want to enjoy something you've like if you want this if we want this podcast to continue we've got to enjoy it and if we're looking at it tactically like Oh Let's do an episode on this so we can boost our audience in this demographic it will start to feel like a like a real job well like you know I've heard from other people that do podcasts that their producers will be like today you're having this guest on and they're like well I've never watched the show they're on or Never follow them don't care about the story but I've got to do it's nice that we kind of have a just able to just go oh whatever and I do think the stuff we talk about is interesting broadly like if you're someone who like whenever we meet or speak to anyone who watches the podcast they're always like oh I love like these types of interesting discussions I feel like if you have a generally curious mind yeah like if if people who are listening to this and enjoy it are going to be similar to us in that respect and they you know even if they don't have a an interest in any of the particular like they might be like oh I love hearing about religion I'm a curious person but they don't care about Greek philosophy yeah or anything when we speak about the ship of thesis they're still like oh it's an interesting thought like it's an interesting thought so if you're one of those types of people like us then all that kind of stuff is interesting I guess thus our our demographic is people who just have similar interests to us yeah or like have a similar outlook on life or yeah that's the thing it's not even like it's just it's the broad value of curiosity I think who just like they like to laugh they like a bit of Comedy cuz we even get people who disagree with us and they're like oh I'm religious I completely disagree with this all but it was so interesting to listen to and so they're not listening because we're speaking about things that they find um they agree with or they enjoy you know but they're going like oh like I like the way these topics are approached or the way this is discussed and yeah so yeah hopefully we'll try and keep that up um hey no way we're going to brain Rock 24/7 after here or no anyway um Connie asked what was your top speed we don't actually know but what did you think it was 30 well when we passed we passed the speed gate at what will be one of the fastest points and that was 30 okay mil K yeah km pH um Leia says do you think you were going to make it to the Finish Line did you think you were going to make it to the Finish Line I genuinely um did not think we were going to make it past the chicane to be honest yeah cuz I didn't realize the course was as wide as it was however the as narrow as it was you mean actually yeah yes and no the thing is it's like driving a car when you're in a car it looks like you're you're bigger than the road but actually you can fit in much smaller of a gap than you expect yourself to be able to and so when you're actually in the soap box when we were doing the chicane in my head I thought we're going to catch one of the hay bals and go flying but actually although it was actually pretty close watching it back it felt like I had enough room to get round and stuff well two hay bals we did fully slic through well yeah if the wings were like flat fronted we would have we could have just spun out flown but because the wings were just like yeah we the first one and then the second one we through that yeah um but in no I didn't think we were going to make it down in one piece to be honest I thought either we'd get to the end and there' be damage or we'd fall over at the end or we just wouldn't make it to the end cuz it's not a like it more often than not you don't make it to the end yeah so I thought statistically I didn't I didn't think we were going to make it to the end so I was surprised were you or not it's so funny because at the start you're like I really don't know but be when you're going down it's so fast and you've got to think a lot like yeah I was just constantly thinking like just monitoring whether we were going too fast or not to be like bring the speed down ever so slightly and it's everything's happening so fast you don't have time to think oh are we going to make it like any hypotheticals it's just uh pull the break break on break off break off oh my goodness are we going to make this corner are we going to too fast at how are we doing like all this kind of stuff's rushing through your head I didn't even think about it I was no so yeah I had no thoughts in my head either I think we were just on reflex at that point yeah because every yeah like Arthur said everything's coming at you so quick like before the chane I thought I had enough time to put my hand up and wave and I was like [ __ ] no I don't yeah so that's when I came back onto the wheel and did that so we really don't have much time in that thing um then Phoenix asks what was the hardest and easiest part of the creative process oh hard po was coming up with an idea for what we wanted to do as the car because we took ages like they were asking us for the design for so long and we were like we really don't know it is hard when you can do literally anything it's like the classic situation where you've got too much Choice yeah so you can't make a decision and neither necessarily creative creative types yeah so we and also it's it's difficult as well when there's two people because obviously if one person wants to do something we we agreed yeah we we didn't have any friction on what we wanted to do we because we both didn't really have an idea but you've got to make sure that what one person comes up with the other person's happy to do um but I think from the go we just suggested either a space shuttle or UFO we were both happy with those two ideas and then we had a look at some pictures and we thought okay let's go for a space sh that was it yeah so I think that um it was hard in the beginning but to to be honest the decision process was pretty easy for us in the end I do think the hardest part although that was hard I think what was harder for us was probably um building the chassis don't you think it was harder than the woodwork yeah that's probably true cuz we didn't have any engineer assistance with the underly car yeah the actual chassis itself we just had bits like we didn't have instructions for half of it we were in in a big Warehouse with just a bunch of nuts bolts rods	actually un unscared I was absolutely fine yeah God it was um after that first jump though I got a lot more confidence in the run I was thinking oh that was fine I can we can do all the [ __ ] jumps yeah I just got full speed no I rate it I'm so glad you just sent it cuz and you I mean you didn't have a choice sending it yeah you just you na yeah exactly you could SL down but uh I they miked us did they mic you up CU they miked me up but I said nothing the whole run yeah why would you you couldn't because the thing is I was so focused I think it's because we went so quick because there's a Red Bull posted a video on their Tik Tok page where because they miked up chip and freezy and um it's off chip speaking to freezy and he's like on the brakes off the brakes okay we're going to go around this now and I think it's CU they were using the brakes and communicating about the brakes that they had stuff to say but because we were just you told me before you weren't going to touch the brake so I thought okay he's really not there's no point saying anything and you know whether it's a Brak or not so I was just thinking I'm just going to drive I was literally only thinking like I'm	8	6	8	actually un unscared I was absolutely fine yeah God it was um after that first jump though I got a lot more confidence in the run I was thinking oh that was fine I can we can do all the jumps yeah I just got full speed no I rate it I'm so glad you just sent it cuz and you I mean you didn't have a choice sending it yeah you just you na yeah exactly you could SL down but uh I they miked us did they mic you up CU they miked me up but I said nothing the whole run yeah why would you you couldn't because the thing is I was so focused	on the brakes off the brakes okay we're going to go around this now	8,4,6	2,1,3	8	4	6	2	1	3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0g_xJvKEb8	4,108	-0g_xJvKEb8	2024-06-27 00:00:00	[Music] what's up everybody welcome back to episode 14 of the batch and Arthur podcast yay go thanks for joining everyone we have something to reveal yes we do I know you guys don't like it when Arthur has his mug on the couch because he tends to drop things don't you never dropped anything actually okay you dropped that th done remember that well you might have noticed I also have my mug on the sofa mhm wondering why who wants to know why should we tell them something to do with one like equals one Lara maybe something to do with that exactly you guys ready see what you reveal go way for audio listeners we have white mugs with our little cartoon characters on them that's right little will I didn't want to Cheers you and I've got my little handsome space guy come on yeah Lara surprised us with these this is a gift um mine shatterproof as well apparently oh it's not sh yeah he's got a plastic mug because we know what he's like I've sippy C the audio listeners actually little rubber cppy cup with two handles well actually when Arthur drinks from a mug show them how you do it I'll I'll commentate for this he uses two hands so he grabs on the like handle and then he grabs the other hand I drink everything with two hands especially tea and Pints yeah I don't really know what is there a reason for that or not safety I guess twice as balanced is that really if one arm stops working the other one's there as a fail safe well there you go that's why he does it guys so it makes sense all after all yeah um speaking of batch and Arthur this podcast design right here yeah this has been plasted on something recently what our rocket ship oh yeah guys we just got back from the Red Bull Soap Box race and we're alive 2024 we genuinely were not sure we were going to survive no I was but we did really scared we we turned up we got to see other people's cards um and there was basically two things going on so there's like a public race and then the Creator race was like a separate thing which is streamed on YouTube If you go on Red Bull's um YouTube channel and you go on under the live tab you can actually watch the full thing yeah we were like a half time race yeah it was Bas half time show yeah there was a few people who weren't happy about the Creator's uh racing cuz they thought we were mixed in with the public but it's like a whole separate thing like we can't win any awards over the public or anything like that yeah um but but we won the hearts of the public come on yeah we did win the hearts of the public there was a a couple of things that you were like rated on as creators and one of them was People's Choice and we got a landslide victory of 44% yeah it actually ended up on 49% 50% out of four teams we got 49 everyone rounds 49 thank you to everyone who voted for us we one of four teams but we're up against chip and freezy who have a big loving audience Becky and pieace who audience and then con from the siden huge loving audience and the guy who's our cameraman on the train video the siden that's right Jack was there as well went to with con they had cool out but uh we we got to Ali p uh that's my first time there you've been there before actually I think we should start the day before okay let's let's reel that [ __ ] back because we had another sleepover kind of yeah we did have another let's just say oh no we didn't really a hotel yeah we did not have a sleepover but what did we do where did we first meet we we met at the we met at the hotel at the hotel dropped our bags off Adam was there he's the Red Bull guy that was been looking after us and he took all the creators out to dinner yeah we to find the tell first yeah chopped a pint um both hands come on yeah then we got in a taxi we went to dinner we had a create a dinner um what did you eat pizza yeah I had a really really hot hot pizza but the thing I was enjoying the most was the football we had a massive screen in front of us oh yeah cuz France were playing Netherlands NE scen I felt kind of harsh cuz the the table was positioned in a way that only half of us could see the football and the other half were just watching us watching football yeah but no he they were watching a react video basically they got to see us live reacting In the Flesh um but the meal was really good the food was really good uh Jake was struggling Jake the guy works with um Arthur they both got the same Pizza he was struggling with the heat yeah he was [ __ ] [ __ ] struggling with the Pint as well got two pints steep was steaming no cuz he was so in denial Jake yeah Jake had a couple pints and he was gone we were like you are drunk he like I am not drunk and he was getting angry mad I'm not even drunk he's I haven't even done anything later he's doing karaoke so that's belting out karaoke with his phone to the to the mic with with voice note on my God it's so that was you singing those Tunes to someone yeah we yeah CU you've been to a place before should we say the name of the place or not I actually I don't remember it anyway okay we went to this place anyway Arthur's been there before it's um like a karaoke bar with uh like an arcade and bowling and there's a dance floor and like a bar and stuff like that yeah very good fun we all went there did some karaoke went there for Arthur Hill's birthday that's how I found out about it what a place it is a cool place actually um yeah did a bit of karaoke we were in there for a couple hours doing karaoke in the end yeah um belting at tunes by the way batch can sing No Arthur can sing yeah but I think people would assume that from but that goes without saying no but but Frank Sinatra came on and oh my goodness batch was just cooking that thing anyone can sing Frank arra welcome back Frank Sinatra he died and this is him reborn wasn't wasn't he heavily involved with the mafia Frank Sinatra so are you you're a quter Italian that's true but I can't admit that no not legally anyway oops they're going to come and get me try and come and get me watch me beat beat you all up actually I shouldn't say what if they do don't come and get me please I was just kidding I've got nothing to do with him he lives on 32 Italian back street oh my god that actually is my house number H what don't say that it's not that's my apartment number as well no we you're not finding out where we live um I'm going to move in with Arthur anyway we moved in together on Minecraft yeah sort of anyway back to karaoke we had fun at karaoke then we went home we didn't get back till 3:00 a.m. silly move because we had to be up early yeah we had it well not that early we had 10: a.m. taxi picks up yeah but we met at breakfast at 9:30 it was the most romantic breakfast of my life yeah um and then stayed at the Hilton Red Bull of class they put us in there they also like what a lovely experience not only did they take us to dinner they they paid for karaoke and everything like that they covered everything shout out to Red Ball I'm going to crack One open right now and they're actually delicious all these colored red balls my actual favorite is the summer edition you guys should actually try this this is not sponsored but I'm just saying this is not even the first thing I I did I went to salburg in Austria and did some Red Bull salburg video shooting with Chris MD um we did like penal sh outs in games with mads bistrup for their YouTube channel and then did a video in it was the the final one of christed uh every time you beat a Defender the defender gets upgraded that's right yeah and we start off with like Harry R Shaw as the worst Defender when all the way up to Champions League mads bistr who fantastic player I mean yeah you realize how like when you watch t uh football on TV you think oh I could do that yeah but then if you see a actual Pro in real life yeah like that makes sense why you went pro now actually we need to do more charity so that was fun that was fun there are a lot going on it's just timings cuz there's so many things going on during summer and that's usually when charity matches go down yeah but you got to work in the schedules either you're away or I'm away or there's a brand trip or something has to be submitted in time was crazy yeah but um no I'm sure we're going to do a lot more stuff with Red Bull as well so that's exciting um but anyway we then got the taxi to Alex Alexandra Palace Ali pal come on and um I've only just realized that's why it's Ali P really yeah I just thought that Ali P was the hill and Alexandre Palace was no way Ali now I've just heard it okay that's Ali P right anyway U you almost did a off the TV intro that right right so then we uh we got into the race so no we got into the Zone where the race was going on yeah and we got to have a little scout out all the public submitted soap boxes some really cool stuff in there yeah although there was one weird one because we rock up and there are like four girls gathered around water is essentially a double bed one girl just tucked up and you back like oh this is cool and she was like yeah it's really cozy get in we were like no I I ain't doing all that I'm sure though that you know that wasn't actually her like lying in it yeah I know you could tell something was weird under the covers but I was not getting involved what what what the hell um oh you can't see my soundboard I've got to pull this back so I can soundboard here yeah he hasn't got a soundboard yet thank goodness although I should no they all see the comments by the way Lara and Arthur see the comments and Lara even said into the group chat she was like I think we need to get bat of soundboard because of all the comments she sent me a message being like listen we've got one purchase a year we can authorize either we get cool mugs or batch gets a soundboard and I was like mugs mugs oh hell no I just think it's so much funnier when you do it yourself and go to I do think so but this is going to get worn down and eventually there's going to be a Hole uh oh audio listeners don't know what I'm doing I I just I pretend there's a soundboard and I just push the sof and make my I do it as well I do it in real life I'll be speaking to people when I'm BR but it doesn't make his much sense in real life just in a conversation he's just air poking stuff as he goes brh you know what's so funny as well I showed batch this someone one of you guys one of our listeners because cuz I you do it quite a lot but I do it all the time at you do the what yeah what that thing someone did a Tik Tok called whatting people in public so she goes into this petrol station goes to pay she goes like how much is that and he goes like Oh 1350 and she just goes what loud so loud just yells it in this man's face and everyone was like bad bad you guys have to recreate this it was so funny yeah and then Arthur was like we've got to do this we've got I don't know if I have the like what is it um social confidence to do that I'd be able to do it not yell it I thought it was a bit rude though the loud yelling not in a bad I'm not criticizing you I just able to do that like that myself I'd be like what I think sorry you got no no soup of the day what what when you have a camera on you though that you get a new found confidence in public like I found no no no in general I don't know if you agree with this in like a sidan video I Feel Like rules don't apply like social rules then don't apply cuz you've got a camer on you and you can do what you want whatever you want yeah I've only recently started being able to finally find it within myself to Vlog like when we were at wagas I was like this is actually fine yeah whereas before IID look at people vlogging in public and I go I admire you a lot cuz I can never do that it helps having people around you yeah although I feel like we do it with our phones it's a bit easier that's true whereas if people with their cameras out like facing their way I'm like oh my goodness I'd be so embarrassed yeah I think I would be as well especially if you got like a big rig on the end of that thing people are just admiring you your rig yeah both of them come on anyway um what speaking of the soap boxes that we saw um there was this one there was like these four guys like lying down chilling and they had this like Dome oh yeah which was kind of like a I guess like a spa you know the space shuttles that come down to earth it kind of looked a bit like that didn't yeah um like a landing module yeah like a landing module and they what did what did they make it off fiberglass or something yeah oh my God you could smell it from where we were still and they were like stick your head in that so we stuck it you stuck your head in first took a whiff and I did it afterwards oh my God dizzying genuinely dizzying I'm high I'm still high from that moment if anyone's ever been in like a a surfboard shop where they like make the surfboards yeah it smells like that it just smell exactly like that and they bizarre I just burped on I thought that was what that was that was disgusting hopefully that didn't get picked up apologize sorry guys sorry if you heard that cut that out anyway um it's not getting cut uh it they had to spend the whole run down in that thing so I think those guys are a little bit waved yeah I'm glad we I'm glad we were just a team of two and had two seats because I kind of felt bad some people that pushed the Soap Box thing down yeah like running after it for like 50 meters and it was a hot day that's true like um most people was like a team of four and two would push two would be in it I think that's standard isn't it to have two people in the so box and then a team that will push and Chase it down probably chase down chip and freezies yeah funny it was funny as well the way he was running because I guess it was like a it was like Looney Tunes the way he had his arms up like that chasing them down to be fair there are people I felt more bad for he talking about some of the injuries of the day oh my God and this is the thing like good gosh man we were already nervous then we were then we got to S see our um vehicle which they had made some mods to by the way so put me at ease a little bit they put foam in the place where my head would smash oh yeah so I felt about that yeah um they didn't they were going to cut out the wheel arches so we could turn more but they didn't I'm glad they I actually think that worked in our favor in it did um and they were actually slagging it off when it went up on towards stage they were speaking about it on Mike and they were like they can't turn properly they can't see over it and I was thinking oh no they're slagging off our thing they were talking about our buckets on the back and stuff I don't know if they were slagging off the buckets or just speaking about I just heard bucket like they're talking about ours oh my god um but it actually worked in favor and then there was screens up showing the first runs and it took a while it like an hour or two after we got there till the first run um but did you see the Sheep one no I didn't see any of the big ones but that's a bad one there was a sheep we I was watching a sheep go down um it was just before you did your stunt I think and it got all the way to the end and then at full speed flipped over onto their necks and I think it was one of them that broke their collarbone and it looked awful and after seeing that me and pieace was stood together we were like I we genuinely don't want to go down after seeing that he was [ __ ] it I was [ __ ] it um and then not only that I think other people must have like been bruised or whatever but the other big one that we heard about is we when we got to the start line we were there waiting for like 10 minutes and it was cuz the person who went down before us got knocked out so that's crazy yeah which I didn't see I don't think we'll ever see any footage of that but I don't know what vehicle it was or anything I just heard that they got knocked out that's why we were up there for ages yeah I mean it was going down insanely fast yeah it look I mean it looks quick on camera but it doesn't look nearly as quick as it feels yeah when you're in that thing oh my goodness and you can barely see in front of you you're bouncing all over the place you're hitting these jumps there are bits where there's foam that like splashes you in the face you have a few seconds of blindness yeah it's mental it it to best describe it definitely feels faster than sitting in a car at 60 MPH I'd say faster than it feels sitting in a car going 100 yeah cuz you're so exposed to we've never gone 100 I've been on the auto bar in Germany okay fair um but yeah you're exposed so it just feels so quick but we were quick insanely Qui insanely quick I think everyone we were the first of the creators to go up everyone thought we were going to just crash yeah or just be crap and slow there was so many comments so many DMs I got afterward was like [ __ ] fair enough before we even went down though before we get cuz we we will react we'll show you us going down yeah but I think we should tell them actually maybe should we hit play and then we'll pause at certain bits to be like explainer yeah I'll tell you what it plays it goes all the way through and then they do it in slow-mo afterwards we can on the slow-mo we'll do some explanation okay here we go batch and Arthur we had the podcast sticker oh it was such a good sticker on the side which was really cool and they zoomed in out loads for the YouTube video which is great yeah was all over the stream which was ideal although you cannot see podcast there until someone shads over it yeah someone's just shattering we were stood up there for ages genuinely yeah because someone had just been knocked out looking down this hill that was just so steep it's not funny but look at that thing that's so impressive it's so well built I can't believe it and I'm I'm gutted because I actually wanted to say to the we had a little bit of help from the Red Bull Engineers yeah I wanted to say thank you to them more just be like what did you see that that was really good yeah if anyone knows anything by any chance please pass on our thanks because yeah they they helped us hopefully they watched it and saw a great deal uh but we did do a lot I mean we did spend two full days building this thing and printing it up and stuff so yeah which you'll obviously see in the Vlog I'll talk about I'll talk about something later cuz there's um this was posted to Tik Tok and there's some funny comments on there really basically yeah basically calling us desk dwellers what so this is our performance so this performance we didn't know we no was supposed to do we we were told to choose a piece of music so we chose something like Space Odyssey style but we had no idea that meant we had to perform yeah and like like she's saying like there are points for performance and we knew about 10 minutes beforehand that this 30 second period of Music we'd have to Performance so we were like let's just do something simple gum shields in the mouth bow and get in and they were harsh they gave us a three but that also also counts to the way the vehicle looks so I think three is Harsh yeah but here we go performance score 22 poor but this is when we started racking up speed the steering was really weird as well cuz it changed as we got quicker and we were just bouncing as we went down like we'd hit a ramp and oh my goodness like almost front flipped that around we Whi around the corner and our our genuine one of our wings like clipped a ha Bell and just sliced through it that one sliced through the hay Bell I was thinking as we came down I swear I would have hit that side had I not hit that side and then nailed the braking and you said you could smell burnt rubber when you were breaking on that thing cuz I was like tickling the brakes like before a jump every now and then I do one all as we approached the chicane I pulled it yeah um but they said as we were going down in the commentary like yeah oh this feels fast usually you're hitting like low 20s here and it comes up on the side and we're hitting 30 km an hour yeah we were going and we were oh my goodness I'm glad you didn't break touch the break though we didn't need it yeah yeah I mean you did a did a little bit but I mean the others obviously touched it a lot more yeah I basically kept us at a speed where I was like this is very close to the line of like where we can make this corner at the speed because at the end of the day as a race and I was like we don't want to get up at the end and just be like oh like a couple of the soite boxes made it halfway down and just like stopped completely yeah and they were like having to like like I don't know like Shake It Forward it's so awkward like we did speak and we did say we'd actually rather crash going pretty quick than come to a grinding hle because it's just not good material yeah like we did it for Content wants to see that it's for a video we know representing creators at half time yeah so many people watching we've got a space shuttle that is designed at a velocity of 17,000 500 mph yeah so we were like you know hitting to be honest when they gave us those uh cuz we asked for special helmets that covered the face yeah when they gave me that I felt invincible and I thought oh [ __ ] it and we had gum Shields that we like ped poured into boiling water molded them before and molded them so we we felt pretty safe yeah I mean but still at 30 we weren but I don't have miles hour or kilm an hour I think it was mph I actually do really yeah but whatever it is at 30 like genuinely like just whacking your head against something solid is well I mean someone did get knocked out and broke it was terrifying yeah they they then do a slow-mo okay let's watch the slow-mo and we can break down exactly because I was thinking there was a point in the chicane when we really Whi round I was thinking why did that happen it was because the back right wheel wasn't on the ground when we were coming up to the chicane so when it touched the the ground it turned us into a corner so I was like [ __ ] and I had to spin it around one way and then back around the other way oh that's why we had that major wobble yeah and you can see it it's like it's cuz one of the wheels wasn't on the ground okay let's let's watch and like in the first one we'll try and go for the audio listeners kind of describe what we're seeing yeah so the first jump yeah we it was a heavy a heavy bit of Kit as well we definitely had one of the heavier ones it and it was like so we got through here the back that wheel wasn't on the ground so like had to correct it well the chicane of just having to go really quick left and then really quick right after yeah and then this pit we hit a bunch of stairs and bch basically grinds on the right hand of them it's cuz afterwards we had to be on the right hand side so I was thinking I can't turn directly after I'm going to have to turn on the ramp like the CL the the course is split in two with like steps on the left and straight on the right and we go down the steps but like half dangling off yeah you have a choice whether to do jumps or not obviously we were going to do the jumps cuz you get docked time um no they add time on if you go round cuz it's a bit unfair yeah but we you were just like let's head it yeah and after the first jump it it looks like we really jump around I don't know about you but in it it didn't feel that bad I I think I'm the exact opposite cuz I was going flying and my bum still Hur May was our positioning or cuz I was holding on to this when yeah I had nothing to hold on to I was just sat on a blue seat I re yeah I reckon that's what it was cuz it kept me like sort of planted you fix and you're in the center so with us like when when you go off the Jump the nose sort of goes down yeah it did and then the back col kicks up into the air and then slams down and because I'm at the back you really got you know I've got a lot further to fall and I just got whacked and my butt like when I sit on the sofa like no I can feel it bruised on I was actually un unscared I was absolutely fine yeah God it was um after that first jump though I got a lot more confidence in the run I was thinking oh that was fine I can we can do all the [ __ ] jumps yeah I just got full speed no I rate it I'm so glad you just sent it cuz and you I mean you didn't have a choice sending it yeah you just you na yeah exactly you could SL down but uh I they miked us did they mic you up CU they miked me up but I said nothing the whole run yeah why would you you couldn't because the thing is I was so focused I think it's because we went so quick because there's a Red Bull posted a video on their Tik Tok page where because they miked up chip and freezy and um it's off chip speaking to freezy and he's like on the brakes off the brakes okay we're going to go around this now and I think it's CU they were using the brakes and communicating about the brakes that they had stuff to say but because we were just you told me before you weren't going to touch the brake so I thought okay he's really not there's no point saying anything and you know whether it's a Brak or not so I was just thinking I'm just going to drive I was literally only thinking like I'm only going to slow us down if I feel like at this speed we either can't hit that jump properly or can't go around the corner and I was just tickling it and it was only at the end like I was like I've got to wait until we cross the finish line before I can break and I just Ram it and because it was a friction break it's like literally a metal bar that just pulls down onto both of the rear wheels it just starts smelling like burning rubber actually nailed that was so good though cuz we literally landed after that last jump we landed and I was like [ __ ] the Finish is right there and all I could hear was I just knew he pulled that thing so hard we came around the corner and didn't touch a single thing because he broke just in time yeah and the thing was untouched like the they said they it could get sent back to one of us so I send it to my house um I got I didn't tell you this yet I got a DM from someone saying I'm just about to watch your soap box get destroyed what no it's been graveyard we took it to a graveyard but we put it to one side no they told us we could have it uh yeah oh the guy might be lying I I pray he is cuz that's so harsh but I saw it in the DM request I was like [ __ ] surely not we should M message Adam but I think a big part of the reason we couldn't speak or do much else is because we weren't so full s we did that in 36 seconds chip and freezy were the second fastest in our group I think and they were 44 seconds yeah so we were we were literally seven or eight seconds I mean I don't exactly know what their milliseconds were but we were seven or eight seconds faster than them and I mean the difference like you watch them go down and they're sort of doing a decent speed but I thought them being go- karters you know they've got their Senor frogs they race every year yeah I was like they're going to bomb it too yeah but they kind of just played it relatively safe I mean good time time but like I do think we we absolutely Center and we had this guy come up to us at the end like should you say yeah say and this guy comes up to us and go don't like freak out now or anything um but we're checking because we genuinely think this was one of the fastest of all time yeah like fastest soap boxes ever he thought we hit the world record run right there and then and they cuz they had to check them by the millisecond yeah and we were a fraction of a second off being the fastest ever 1 18 of a second something something ridiculous like that and uh so I think we were either the second or the third fastest of all time yeah there were rumors at the end of the day and I don't know whether it was Chip just winding us up being like the last car of the day was slightly faster yeah they they yeah they said something like the last car of the day actually broke the world record so if that is true we're the third fastest of all time if not we are the second fastest of all time to go down that track and we rather the second of the first fastest of this year's event which is just just the coolest thing ever like we to be fair have also like we couldn't have picked a design that was Better Built For Speed I mean it's so people were saying this is this is aerodynamic and I was thinking it is but I don't think it's going to make that much of a difference in this yeah scenario and whether it did or not or whether it was just the fact that you didn't break much yeah I think that was it it was quite heavy it was heavy as well you had one of the heavy ones so at the start you can tell this was one of the things we were saying we should have got two people cuz we only got Jake to shove us at the start yeah and when when you start off just going down the ramp it took us a while to pick up speed if we had sort of been shoved and started at a really good pace and kept it at that pace I genely think we could have built the record but I'm I want to do it again same that's why I wanted to keep that cuz we could have just modified that and send it down we know that's a winning formula yeah make it into a submarine or something yeah exactly that thing works but Red Bull like they they we had such a great time with them they did so much for us and we were so grateful and we were speaking see nothing guaranteed and stuff um but they were saying there's a potential for us to come back and maybe do the one that you know you launch off a ramp and you're like 10 m up whatever and you've got to Glide over water as far as possible there and there are loads of other sort of like cool Red Bull events and stuff to do so um yeah I think we make this a thing if we can do just more of this stuff yeah I loved it it was genuinely one of the best things I've ever done I think yeah and there's a the the the only annoying thing is there's so much footage it's going to take a while to get the video together because Red Bull have Clips we have clips they've sent us a hard driver clipse I've got stuff on my phone B has stuff on his phone Jake has stuff on his phone so we'll gather it all together but when the video comes out I think it'll be such a good one because so good the whole experience was just the coolest thing ever and we couldn't be more grateful to Red Bull for that the perfect run at the end we just ended it so perfectly the whole experience I think yeah it couldn't have gone better afterwards I so cool yeah I couldn't get the helmet off though we got to the very end I could not figure out how to unclip the helmet so I did the interview with a helmet on yeah they could not hear thing as well you hear me go oh the atmosphere was electric and I know he said the electric thing and then we um yeah we Kenny from South Park hanging out with us we to I finally I got someone to take my helmet off we drove the soap box down to the graveyard thing but they said they weren't going to break it we put it to one side it might be broken and then we had to run up the hill because we had to get on the live stream to do an interview straight afterwards yeah and oh my God you realize how far we came down Running Up That thing that it was 400 to 500 M back up a relatively Steep Hill on a very hot day we were exhausted from the day before and uh being out the night before and having the race and all that kind of stuff and in boiler suits and it was a hot day boiling I got so sweaty at the top we got to the top and we were like that was just a thoroughly unenjoyable experience but it was cool cuz there I heard I don't I think I told you at the time I heard a kid as we ran past he was like oh my God racers felt like an F1 driver in that moment yeah that really went straight to my head yeah I bet we felt a lot cooler than we probably looked just running around in boiler suits and I'm my Red Bull cap on we had shades on surprised he hasn't got that red bull cap on today by the way that thing you're going to have to peel that off his dead body I've been wearing it so much lady just cuz I I love it it's good for green screen stuff that is the one thing I I might start wearing cuts out the wispy hair yeah it cuts out the wispy hair which kind of ruin the illusion I've got that real issue whereas when you wear a cap it's like a smooth round thing and the green screen just looks much better I see my editors have all been like wear a cap as often as possible oh so they even so they tell you what to do huh you're not Char they do interesting well I keep my editors locked away and then I give them footage and they're like please I want to see my family please share an editor now no King yeah we do shout out king great honestly fantastic worker his work ethic he sent me a video and like couple hours later he was like actually here's a V2 I watched it back and I I could see some improvements I was like kind of mentality and he's not been editing for long either yeah so he's I think all selft talk cow's amazing as well they're both just great honestly yeah people listening a fascinated here about how much we love our tives yeah let's get back to the Red Bull so box race so then we did our interview at the very top which is when cuz we went down first so we were Then followed by all the other creators who did the race um we didn't really get to see them at the time cuz we were running up the the bloody Hill but um we got to the top they all slowly joined us did their interview and then it got revealed the scores so there were different categories we were like ranked on or scored on the first being performance and I I'm pretty sure the style of the cart comes into that as well yeah and so we what did we get like what was it 20 22 it was really bad 40 terrible score we got like a seven a six a three and a five something like that whoever gave us a three what's wrong with you huh they were grumpy though cuz I think chip and frezy got something like 39 and the guy that person gave them a nine apparently they were really mean scoring the whole time that's crazy but chip and fzy knew about the performance thing which we I know how they knew about that we had no idea chip and freezy raced as a box of 20 chicken McNuggets yeah and they brought like homemade barbecue sauce and just on each other yeah pry just poured it all over them it was good like as performances go that's like the best thing you can do yeah so they got a really great score like almost perfect just one guy dropped a mark on it um 39 out 40 but I feel like I feel like giving us a three was really harsh I know our performance wasn't great but the music was very fitting yeah and maybe we should have pretended we were on the moon with our jumping or something like walking like that he just had such a cool carard we had so little time to think about it yeah I feel like it was harsh though look at our car that was really cool yeah maybe we were also ranked harshly because we were the first creators to go down maybe maybe we would have got a better score if we were towards the end I don't know yeah maybe but um yeah we did really bad on that and then you get obviously score for your speed in finishing the race yeah which we smashed Everyone by like four four seconds or something or seven or eight yeah like seven or eight seconds Quicks first to second and the second fastest and I think Becky and pieace got a dnf finish either they hit a minute or they stopped completely yeah cuz they went over one of the jumps and then front end broke so the wheel wasn't really like or the front was touching the floor dragging across the floor so they just I felt bad for them they just ped all across but at least they got down in one piece that's the they were just in a pint glass yeah it was really cool and they had a they had a cool performance Becky poured pint on um pie which was funny um con and Jack had a cool performance they just had some Swagger about it like yeah it was cool oh yeah we got picked on the performance but they did struggle getting into the vehicle did they yeah CU it's really hard and narrow to get in um they got they everyone got all the way to the end by the way Colin Jack fell over at the end there thing just went on its side they they chose thinner Wheels I didn't think they were going to make it that far yeah they also had a really high center of gravity cuz their car was thin and quite tall yeah like if you looked at their car it looked like it wanted to fall over it was a bit like chitty chitty bang bang but like elongated yeah so they did really well to and they were drifting it as well it was drifting so they did really well to get to the bottom um but yeah we were like seven seconds quicker than seven or eight seconds quicker than the second fastest which was it chip and freezy or was it Con I think it might have been no chip and frezy was Heavy wasn't it to be fair so that would move um and then there was People's Choice which we said we won 49% and was those were those those three so I think the reason so we ended up coming third we came third out of the four I just think it wasn't like cuz we won two out of three categories you'd think we'd win but I think they gave they were sort of like weighted yeah so because we were so low on the performance us being ahead on the other two bits didn't pull us up enough I think it's really harsh I think it doesn't matter at all by the way I don't I don't care but I do think it's harsh that performance is weighted so heavily in comparison to like speed has got to be the most important thing yeah like it's a race I know that's that's the way we were looking at it that's because it's a race come on we were focus on the race as aspect obviously soap boxes isn't Formula 1 is supposed to be like a bit of fun cretive stuff which you do get um but yeah hard winning two out of three categories and winning the race comfortably well it was more like at in the moment when they were revealing who won out of us four I was thinking in my head oh we've definitely won yeah after winning we got like 50% of the votes for People's Choice so it was a landslide Victory they said and a landslide Victory on the speed so I was thinking we have smashed those two things so surely we've gained loads of points for that yeah and we came third I was like I'm actually quite shocked by that I in my head I was thinking oh my God we've won yeah but um no it was so means anything like there's I don't there's nothing for it yeah I was just surprised but genuinely so it was so good yeah it was it was definitely definitely one of the best things I've ever done I was so glad that we did it I can't wait for the proper video to come out and have it all like a documentary s of documented archive just being like Oh I can look back at that video that was a banger yeah oh it was it was really good um then we stuck around and watched some public racing um and yeah there was it was it was nice there was a nice like area where you could get food and stuff and the worms showed up oh yeah lots of the patreon supporters a couple of N and non patreon people showed up lots of podcast people I'm guessing everyone there was podcast listeners because I didn't really put it on any platform no I think it it was all podcast we spoken about on the on on the podcast and in the patreon group chat quite a lot yeah and that was pretty much it so thank you well regardless if it's yeah thank you guys for coming along cuz it was so nice speaking to everyone great really great to have your support um yeah and yeah you guys were there for most of the day just like stood by our um what do you call it Soap Box stood by our Soap Box we were coming over when we could to say hi and stuff yeah everyone got photos we oh my goodness quite a lot of people wanted us to draw tattoos for them oh dear and we are not artistic no we're close yeah I'm a letter away but I not draw sa in my life and I was like the only thing I could think of was the rocket emoji yeah that was pretty good to be fair I was trying to draw them but getting the three little things at the bottom and the fire I was like I was like show this to your artist and they'll get what I'm trying to draw yeah they'll understand I mean I just ended up drawing flowers CU it's the easiest thing to draw it's got nothing to do with me a lot of art what just happened you just got bored of your own conversation I just yawned I was hoping you take it off me really quickly cuz I yawned no someone asked for a cameo once where they were like can you draw something for us to do a tattoo and I did a a ringed planet oh nice and oh my goodness trying to get cuz obviously if you put the circle there first the ring that goes in front like cuts through lines and it looks crap so you've kind of got to start with the ring but obviously just as the ring curves back around you have to stop and then you have to imagine where the sphere is going to be and oh my goodness I burnt through about half this notebook trying to get one that just looks semi-reasonable so whoever invented Saturn fair enough yeah exactly that must have been difficult and Uranus yep that's also ringed yeah um many too many rings yeah I've got a ring do you oh yeah and that weekend batch proposed to me so I said yes no I'm talking about my ass what anyway um it was it was a different kind of proposition to the one you were thinking of yours is way cuter than mine and I said no oh hell no I just got that that's disgusting cuz I was like on Saturday night we were just chilling we were like go we're exhausted yeah and I was like do you want to just stay around and Bach was like yeah so we played fornite and watch scary movies yeah he took me to get sushi again yeah we went to sticks and Sushi again but I was like I kind of want to make more videos but we were just so tired yeah I it was too late you just what you made me watch horror stuff we we watched a bunch of scary videos on YouTube like real ghost sightings and short horror movies and I was like I've wanted to do videos like that with you ages I was like then was the perfect time but our energy was just shock yeah we'll do it we'll definitely do it another time though CU people just love that love that horror game yeah is entertaining to watch other people get scared people don't want to watch you have fun they want to watch you cringe and be scared people enjoyed us having fun of Minecraft true but you were scared of I died like five six times I'm not very good clearly everyone's making fun of me did I die once I didn't I don't think no but your spirit died at one point hell no my spirit my spirit was always my spirit were through the roof um when I was getting attacked by Leona Lewis and I was hiding in the house turns out Leona Lewis can't go in water so I should have just gone in water I saw that comment yeah thanks for that thanks for the comment I'm actually going to use that logic and I I already want to film episode three right now do you yeah it was so fun we'll do it this week actually it's so fun like I enjoy playing it we're just loading up M fil although he needs a he needs a setup can we can we tell this boy to put some money towards a proper setup he plays on his PlayStation so we have to play Bedrock Edition so I can't use my nice shaders that make the waters and everything look clean and all the like graphics and stuff you know the like it's T's water we're keeping it the graphics upgrades are insane look just just a bit enjoy a humble bit of like Minecraft where it's nostalgic not everything has to be polished yeah okay fine um but no it was it was really good fun and it is it is I do love that we can just do that kind of stuff and just play a game and it would be fun yeah um we can just like high five when we want yeah anyway um back to let's go back in time to um the end of the race he wet himself no he didn't he didn't no he didn't but um I just want to make sure that we covered everything no because we didn't speak about um the stunt the stunts oh yeah you should tell them about the stunt they they just flung on you they didn't tell you until yeah they didn't tell me about this before and they made me sign my rights away yeah and it it was they had already Ked off the live stream so you just had to do it yeah um we basically batch got nice one he got pulled aside and they were like oh is the driver we're testing your reflexes yeah and what did they do they so she dropped a ruler and you just had to grab the ruler um as soon as she dropped it and just see how many centimeters you let drop to judge your reaction time I didn't do I think I came second actually nice but on the practice I failed uh so I was like oh that was nice and peaceful and fun I wonder what mine's going to be and they get me and they they I put this heart monitor on and I was like what they put this heart monitor on me put me in the middle of this cage and this dude called like Douglas or something comes up in this massive dirt bike and just goes like I'll lie down in the middle and I was like I know exactly where this is going got R to me and Jack just start planking and he's sort of in this giant he giant of a man I swear he's like 6'4 in this massive dirt bike and he's sort of there like on one wheel bouncing the like wheel like an inch from my head and I'm like if he just if anything misjudges he crushes my skull yeah like we we we lose one of the Bright Young talents of this generation and you as well wait what do you mean well they'd get Jack and you oh yeah yeah good old Jack and then then he was doing like wheelies around your head like just driving past full speed past his head yeah it was giving me the E actually see lie down there insane and I was just like well I'm playing it cool cuz that's like the name of the game it'd be cringe if I got up and I mean they they even said that if you get up you're at risk of just getting your head whacked cuz he's like an inch within your head so if you move it until you die yeah um and for like a minute he just did this and bounced around and yeah you were down there for a hot minute yeah we were there for ages just getting driven around I thought oh this is just getting this is just cruel now yeah I mean the poor boy is just lying there with a boner by the way uh because he gets that happens when he gets scared just why you think I keep getting you for horror games oh no i h on a Bo so he's just doing circling circling circling around Arthur on the floor it just I just felt a bit sorry for him in the end yeah uh so that was terrifying but good F night you know I'm up for anything I did realized the other day I'm just one of his friends who's just up for thing yeah you are actually someone could be like hey we're going to sit inside and watch movies tonight I be like fine or they can be like come on man we're robbing a bank I'm like cool they'll be like come on going glamping for the weekend do you is that real though if I said or okay let's go and watch the Euros tonight fine let's do it England England this is the last night of the group stage and all of a sudden the mood is really dead because we're just through now we've not played well either it's been pathetic there I said it and Harry Kane when you finally come on this podcast I've got some strong words to have with you mine mine Reserve is Gareth Southgate and not bringing BR and not playing kobby Mayu okay sorry Harry Kane actually way he's playing phenomenally to be not as if we're missing him but I'm mad at you Southgate yeah Italy um not playing too bad oh my goodness you're Italian did you watch the game last night and they scored the 90th plus eight to go through 98th minute it was the draw against Croatia oh that was heartbreaking poor the thing is they probably would have gone through anyway as one of the people third but um it's nice to confirm it you know yeah those moments of elation just so hard I think Italy just like a decent Striker anyway we won't bore you with football because a lot of people probably don't care about football yeah um but yeah I mean I'm getting into F1 now yes you are you watch drive to survive right yeah I've been watching drive to surv I need to get on that I really want to watch that um and hence why the Red Bull so box race I was really in I was really in my element Because You Loved does it make you love Red Bull as well the driver to survive does it follow a particular team it follows the mall and to be honest I haven't really got like a team I really um it's not like I really want to see this team win it's more people that you care about it's good to see Red Bull doing well but um I like Lando do you yeah you're Lando Norris enjoyer I'm a Lando enjoyer I like them all to be fair from what I've seen I like I get I like Char all oh cuz he kind he kind of looks like Charles mclair uh yeah I get uh Lando Norris a lot people always say like L nor I'm not sure about that boy and uh obviously like V stappen red the Red Bull goat what batch V stappen high five what does that even mean batch for steppen me batch for steppen batch for steppen me instead of Max for Sten batch for Sten it's one of the only times that batch really goes into anything batch for Sten what do people nickname you at school get tuna boy cuz I've brought in tuna fish boy uh right I was going duckling I was going for more names like name related like okay because I was oh name related I was I was called nothing I was just called Arthur I don't know why I said it like that I was called Nothing me yeah had no friends at school no I didn't really people would say ice as a joke ice yeah I just I didn't like not having a cool nickname name my sister one of my sisters calls me Izzy that's really cringe and feminine yo she watches these which is fine yo she watches these apologize down the lens right now I apologize nothing cuz it is it was true it was my truly held opinion and you should never apologize for being yourself sometimes she calls me Elizabeth as well what and I don't really know where she got that from she started that was a good what what yeah she watches it where she works as she was working she'll have it on Gizzy by the way I didn't get cancelled for what Sunday came out where I waterboarded Chris I haven't watched that and I was seriously worried I was genuinely like I thought you know just some people on the internet can be real yeah cuz they might be like oh you're making fun of water boarding people actually die from water boarding that's not what I exactly what I meant oh because okay you can't waterboard Chris because he doesn't like water and some people have been drowned before no okay of course because because you shouldn't do water boarding because it's like saying this is something you should it's really on impressionable fans and they'll be like okay I'm going to water board my mom tonight right maybe maybe that was like oh you shouldn't do that on to an impression I'm going to cancel you right now in that case um but no I I I just thought people would be like oh that was so mean of him they're not friends like just you know when you don't really know I mean obviously anyone who's seen Chris and videos knows how much abuse he puts me through I mean that guy abuse shs down on my neck like there's no tomorrow he's just I I'll just be chilling mid shootting he'll just go on my traps I mean granted they're juicy like they're nice muscular defined um have you ever thought you might just be a vampire I don't know hiding in plain sight you know you've got two Pierce marks right there you getting sucked by you've got really garlicky breath so I don't think I could be a a vampire cuz otherwise let's not start rumors like that otherwise I'd run there's not start rumors like that yeah my breath smells like daisies rainbows fairy tales I'm always chewing gum you are always chewing gum you're a real gum chewer yeah it Bo it boosts your confidence it's like putting a pair of sunglasses on I'm glad you don't do it on the podcast that would be the most annoying thing to listen to I have done it before but I just tuck it into my teeth like snz you don't mean that it's gum you don't mean that it's gum it's just weird you don't mean that it's gum gum started freaking out you know we were speaking about eggs the other day when you you're Midway through eating heads and you're like wait up yeah that's a period something ain't right that's a menstrual cycle raor and you're like yeah well that weirdly makes me like it more it's more than I knew you were a feminist me too come on yeah um we do like to bring awareness to the fact that women exist and have Cycles cuz I I I mentioned menstrual cycles all the time and I in one of my YouTube videos I was like I've got to stop saying menstrual cycles drop a comment if you think I should stop saying menual cycle everyone's like no and someone's like no it actually feels kind of feminist in a weird way cuz you're bringing light to the fact of cuz not everyone knows that women have I think everyone knows women have periods I found out 3 days ago watching your video you thought they had penis what I just thought they merely existed they merely exist in a in a realm Between Heaven and Hell where somewhere I love doesn't exist what the hell is this guy talking about women only exist in heaven women are heaven on Earth in my opinion how does that song Go heaven heaven for what it's worth women are heaven on Earth women are heaven on Earth brother in Christ you don't know what you're talking about right now I feel like we're getting on to Serious brain rot have you got anything else this is a rare batch prepared actually been praying preparing a lot um all of the episodes lately we've actually yeah hence why the quality's increased um no you just you do stuff in a different way I like like reading and talking reading well next episode's prepared by by Arthur and we'll be filming this directly after this one yeah we're doing complet transparency cuz batch is way on holiday and I'm going to be honest because I'm not I've not brought a spare pair of clothes anyway yeah me neither I don't want to hear no comments like why is he wearing that shirt again well they should be comenting CU alth this on an episode before quite frankly Arthur is either can I just say by the way I predicted what you were going to be wearing on the Red Bull meal I said Arthur will turn up in Black corduroy shorts um and a cream beige top shirt either worn as an overshirt with a white t-shirt underneath or just a shirt that's exactly what you were that's true I mean I have two other pairs of shorts I had a black like pair that were like had textured but the waistband thing snapped hard to find a good pair of shorts and then I had a nice like cream beige pair yeah um but they were just like I don't know linen and just ended up being a bit too and take it from a guy a sleepover with him he doesn't take them off he showers in them he goes me to take them off he was like take them off take them off take them off and I was like leave me alone yeah I was like please wash please wash you were just misreading me I wasn't saying take them off I was like please wash please wash anyway I I got the um I went into the patreon chat o uh little plug if you want to join the patreon go ahead there's a chat you get early access to episodes they get uploaded all the time and Bullies me in it yeah I do speak in there a fair amount um and I said to them we're filming two pods today can you guys reply to this message with any questions you have about the Red Bull Soapbox race we're going to be doing a whole episode on it uh because I thought there might be you know they might want to know more information on how it was built or how we were feeling and stuff and we could just give us some insight to that we've just explained the day how cool it was blah blah blah but they want to know the BTS let's see how insightful their questions can be okay did you hurt your nose that's [ __ ] rude no I didn't that obviously pointed at you no I didn't to be fair I did we had said in an episode prior that there was no foam and we are going to smash our faces in they put foam in we had good helmets on but we didn't actually crash so yeah we didn't crash so although his coxic bone is in pain yeah my coxics I'm absolutely fine because I'm not weak that's your tailbone um may ask for us highly evolved Apes that was from Brooke by the way I'll say names shout outs May says how SL why did you decide to build a rocket why I guess cuz it's very on brand for us have a look at our mugs yep yeah I mean we're just we're were're a Spacey themed podcast for no apparent reason we genely I'm sure we said in the earlier episodes we had no plans to be themed and bats just randomly one day went let's just make it space themed I just think it's cool yeah me I just think we both think it's cool we do we just need a cool set I think most of the things we do is because we think oh that's cool like the Soap Box we thought oh it'd be cool if we did a a ship or a ufi yeah just cuz it just cuz it's funny someone actually messaged in for the next one I've got like the submissions from the normal submissions page which everyone can enter just go to our any of our socials at Bach and arur and in the link there's like a a link tree and one of them is the submissions form and they were like what is your target audience because I can't really figure it out and I'm studying media at the moment target audience is such a big thing and I was like we don't have one we just come on talk about whatever we find interesting yeah and just hope that some people agree yeah and the people who do listen are actually very um diverse yeah and intelligent and cool and good looking and all this yeah um so yeah no um yeah and it's weird because we're not sitting there going oh let's talk about this to appeal to this audience which I think is I mean somehow it works so thank you guys for tuning into thanks cuz I think if you analyzed it in like a media class and it was like oh one minute you're doing brain rot meme references and the next you're talking about s men and then the next we're talking about Greek philosophy and the next one like Roman Parables and then religion they'd be like well someone's going to listen to the one episode like it and then not like the rest yeah but for some reason people just like listening to it all really I think we just decided that we're just going to do what we want like yeah whatever we enjoy yeah like whatever we enjoy and whatever we F feel like talking about we're just going to do it because if you want to enjoy something you've like if you want this if we want this podcast to continue we've got to enjoy it and if we're looking at it tactically like Oh Let's do an episode on this so we can boost our audience in this demographic it will start to feel like a like a real job well like you know I've heard from other people that do podcasts that their producers will be like today you're having this guest on and they're like well I've never watched the show they're on or Never follow them don't care about the story but I've got to do it's nice that we kind of have a just able to just go oh whatever and I do think the stuff we talk about is interesting broadly like if you're someone who like whenever we meet or speak to anyone who watches the podcast they're always like oh I love like these types of interesting discussions I feel like if you have a generally curious mind yeah like if if people who are listening to this and enjoy it are going to be similar to us in that respect and they you know even if they don't have a an interest in any of the particular like they might be like oh I love hearing about religion I'm a curious person but they don't care about Greek philosophy yeah or anything when we speak about the ship of thesis they're still like oh it's an interesting thought like it's an interesting thought so if you're one of those types of people like us then all that kind of stuff is interesting I guess thus our our demographic is people who just have similar interests to us yeah or like have a similar outlook on life or yeah that's the thing it's not even like it's just it's the broad value of curiosity I think who just like they like to laugh they like a bit of Comedy cuz we even get people who disagree with us and they're like oh I'm religious I completely disagree with this all but it was so interesting to listen to and so they're not listening because we're speaking about things that they find um they agree with or they enjoy you know but they're going like oh like I like the way these topics are approached or the way this is discussed and yeah so yeah hopefully we'll try and keep that up um hey no way we're going to brain Rock 24/7 after here or no anyway um Connie asked what was your top speed we don't actually know but what did you think it was 30 well when we passed we passed the speed gate at what will be one of the fastest points and that was 30 okay mil K yeah km pH um Leia says do you think you were going to make it to the Finish Line did you think you were going to make it to the Finish Line I genuinely um did not think we were going to make it past the chicane to be honest yeah cuz I didn't realize the course was as wide as it was however the as narrow as it was you mean actually yeah yes and no the thing is it's like driving a car when you're in a car it looks like you're you're bigger than the road but actually you can fit in much smaller of a gap than you expect yourself to be able to and so when you're actually in the soap box when we were doing the chicane in my head I thought we're going to catch one of the hay bals and go flying but actually although it was actually pretty close watching it back it felt like I had enough room to get round and stuff well two hay bals we did fully slic through well yeah if the wings were like flat fronted we would have we could have just spun out flown but because the wings were just like yeah we the first one and then the second one we through that yeah um but in no I didn't think we were going to make it down in one piece to be honest I thought either we'd get to the end and there' be damage or we'd fall over at the end or we just wouldn't make it to the end cuz it's not a like it more often than not you don't make it to the end yeah so I thought statistically I didn't I didn't think we were going to make it to the end so I was surprised were you or not it's so funny because at the start you're like I really don't know but be when you're going down it's so fast and you've got to think a lot like yeah I was just constantly thinking like just monitoring whether we were going too fast or not to be like bring the speed down ever so slightly and it's everything's happening so fast you don't have time to think oh are we going to make it like any hypotheticals it's just uh pull the break break on break off break off oh my goodness are we going to make this corner are we going to too fast at how are we doing like all this kind of stuff's rushing through your head I didn't even think about it I was no so yeah I had no thoughts in my head either I think we were just on reflex at that point yeah because every yeah like Arthur said everything's coming at you so quick like before the chane I thought I had enough time to put my hand up and wave and I was like [ __ ] no I don't yeah so that's when I came back onto the wheel and did that so we really don't have much time in that thing um then Phoenix asks what was the hardest and easiest part of the creative process oh hard po was coming up with an idea for what we wanted to do as the car because we took ages like they were asking us for the design for so long and we were like we really don't know it is hard when you can do literally anything it's like the classic situation where you've got too much Choice yeah so you can't make a decision and neither necessarily creative creative types yeah so we and also it's it's difficult as well when there's two people because obviously if one person wants to do something we we agreed yeah we we didn't have any friction on what we wanted to do we because we both didn't really have an idea but you've got to make sure that what one person comes up with the other person's happy to do um but I think from the go we just suggested either a space shuttle or UFO we were both happy with those two ideas and then we had a look at some pictures and we thought okay let's go for a space sh that was it yeah so I think that um it was hard in the beginning but to to be honest the decision process was pretty easy for us in the end I do think the hardest part although that was hard I think what was harder for us was probably um building the chassis don't you think it was harder than the woodwork yeah that's probably true cuz we didn't have any engineer assistance with the underly car yeah the actual chassis itself we just had bits like we didn't have instructions for half of it we were in in a big Warehouse with just a bunch of nuts bolts rods	I saw it in the DM request I was like [ __ ] surely not we should M message Adam but I think a big part of the reason we couldn't speak or do much else is because we weren't so full s we did that in 36 seconds chip and freezy were the second fastest in our group I think and they were 44 seconds yeah so we were we were literally seven or eight seconds I mean I don't exactly know what their milliseconds were but we were seven or eight seconds faster than them and I mean the difference like you watch them go down and they're sort of doing a decent speed but I thought them being go- karters you know they've got their Senor frogs they race every year yeah I was like they're going to bomb it too yeah but they kind of just played it relatively safe I mean good time time but like I do think we we absolutely Center and we had this guy come up to us at the end like should you say yeah say and this guy comes up to us and go don't like freak out now or anything um but we're checking because we genuinely think this was one of the fastest of all time yeah like fastest soap boxes ever he thought we hit the world record run right there and then and they cuz they had to check them by the millisecond yeah and	8	6	4	I saw it in the DM request I was like surely not we should M message Adam but I think a big part of the reason we couldn't speak or do much else is because we weren't so full s we did that in 36 seconds chip and freezy were the second fastest in our group I think and they were 44 seconds yeah so we were we were literally seven or eight seconds I mean I don't exactly know what their milliseconds were but we were seven or eight seconds faster than them and I mean the difference like you watch them go down and they're sort of doing a decent speed but I thought them being go-karters you know they've got their Senor frogs they race every year yeah I was like they're going to bomb it too yeah but they kind of just played it relatively safe I mean good time time but like I do think we we absolutely Center and we had this guy come up to us at the end like should you say yeah say and this guy comes up to us and go don't like freak out now or anything um but we're checking because we genuinely think this was one of the fastest of all time yeah like fastest soap boxes ever 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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0g_xJvKEb8	4,108	-0g_xJvKEb8	2024-06-27 00:00:00	[Music] what's up everybody welcome back to episode 14 of the batch and Arthur podcast yay go thanks for joining everyone we have something to reveal yes we do I know you guys don't like it when Arthur has his mug on the couch because he tends to drop things don't you never dropped anything actually okay you dropped that th done remember that well you might have noticed I also have my mug on the sofa mhm wondering why who wants to know why should we tell them something to do with one like equals one Lara maybe something to do with that exactly you guys ready see what you reveal go way for audio listeners we have white mugs with our little cartoon characters on them that's right little will I didn't want to Cheers you and I've got my little handsome space guy come on yeah Lara surprised us with these this is a gift um mine shatterproof as well apparently oh it's not sh yeah he's got a plastic mug because we know what he's like I've sippy C the audio listeners actually little rubber cppy cup with two handles well actually when Arthur drinks from a mug show them how you do it I'll I'll commentate for this he uses two hands so he grabs on the like handle and then he grabs the other hand I drink everything with two hands especially tea and Pints yeah I don't really know what is there a reason for that or not safety I guess twice as balanced is that really if one arm stops working the other one's there as a fail safe well there you go that's why he does it guys so it makes sense all after all yeah um speaking of batch and Arthur this podcast design right here yeah this has been plasted on something recently what our rocket ship oh yeah guys we just got back from the Red Bull Soap Box race and we're alive 2024 we genuinely were not sure we were going to survive no I was but we did really scared we we turned up we got to see other people's cards um and there was basically two things going on so there's like a public race and then the Creator race was like a separate thing which is streamed on YouTube If you go on Red Bull's um YouTube channel and you go on under the live tab you can actually watch the full thing yeah we were like a half time race yeah it was Bas half time show yeah there was a few people who weren't happy about the Creator's uh racing cuz they thought we were mixed in with the public but it's like a whole separate thing like we can't win any awards over the public or anything like that yeah um but but we won the hearts of the public come on yeah we did win the hearts of the public there was a a couple of things that you were like rated on as creators and one of them was People's Choice and we got a landslide victory of 44% yeah it actually ended up on 49% 50% out of four teams we got 49 everyone rounds 49 thank you to everyone who voted for us we one of four teams but we're up against chip and freezy who have a big loving audience Becky and pieace who audience and then con from the siden huge loving audience and the guy who's our cameraman on the train video the siden that's right Jack was there as well went to with con they had cool out but uh we we got to Ali p uh that's my first time there you've been there before actually I think we should start the day before okay let's let's reel that [ __ ] back because we had another sleepover kind of yeah we did have another let's just say oh no we didn't really a hotel yeah we did not have a sleepover but what did we do where did we first meet we we met at the we met at the hotel at the hotel dropped our bags off Adam was there he's the Red Bull guy that was been looking after us and he took all the creators out to dinner yeah we to find the tell first yeah chopped a pint um both hands come on yeah then we got in a taxi we went to dinner we had a create a dinner um what did you eat pizza yeah I had a really really hot hot pizza but the thing I was enjoying the most was the football we had a massive screen in front of us oh yeah cuz France were playing Netherlands NE scen I felt kind of harsh cuz the the table was positioned in a way that only half of us could see the football and the other half were just watching us watching football yeah but no he they were watching a react video basically they got to see us live reacting In the Flesh um but the meal was really good the food was really good uh Jake was struggling Jake the guy works with um Arthur they both got the same Pizza he was struggling with the heat yeah he was [ __ ] [ __ ] struggling with the Pint as well got two pints steep was steaming no cuz he was so in denial Jake yeah Jake had a couple pints and he was gone we were like you are drunk he like I am not drunk and he was getting angry mad I'm not even drunk he's I haven't even done anything later he's doing karaoke so that's belting out karaoke with his phone to the to the mic with with voice note on my God it's so that was you singing those Tunes to someone yeah we yeah CU you've been to a place before should we say the name of the place or not I actually I don't remember it anyway okay we went to this place anyway Arthur's been there before it's um like a karaoke bar with uh like an arcade and bowling and there's a dance floor and like a bar and stuff like that yeah very good fun we all went there did some karaoke went there for Arthur Hill's birthday that's how I found out about it what a place it is a cool place actually um yeah did a bit of karaoke we were in there for a couple hours doing karaoke in the end yeah um belting at tunes by the way batch can sing No Arthur can sing yeah but I think people would assume that from but that goes without saying no but but Frank Sinatra came on and oh my goodness batch was just cooking that thing anyone can sing Frank arra welcome back Frank Sinatra he died and this is him reborn wasn't wasn't he heavily involved with the mafia Frank Sinatra so are you you're a quter Italian that's true but I can't admit that no not legally anyway oops they're going to come and get me try and come and get me watch me beat beat you all up actually I shouldn't say what if they do don't come and get me please I was just kidding I've got nothing to do with him he lives on 32 Italian back street oh my god that actually is my house number H what don't say that it's not that's my apartment number as well no we you're not finding out where we live um I'm going to move in with Arthur anyway we moved in together on Minecraft yeah sort of anyway back to karaoke we had fun at karaoke then we went home we didn't get back till 3:00 a.m. silly move because we had to be up early yeah we had it well not that early we had 10: a.m. taxi picks up yeah but we met at breakfast at 9:30 it was the most romantic breakfast of my life yeah um and then stayed at the Hilton Red Bull of class they put us in there they also like what a lovely experience not only did they take us to dinner they they paid for karaoke and everything like that they covered everything shout out to Red Ball I'm going to crack One open right now and they're actually delicious all these colored red balls my actual favorite is the summer edition you guys should actually try this this is not sponsored but I'm just saying this is not even the first thing I I did I went to salburg in Austria and did some Red Bull salburg video shooting with Chris MD um we did like penal sh outs in games with mads bistrup for their YouTube channel and then did a video in it was the the final one of christed uh every time you beat a Defender the defender gets upgraded that's right yeah and we start off with like Harry R Shaw as the worst Defender when all the way up to Champions League mads bistr who fantastic player I mean yeah you realize how like when you watch t uh football on TV you think oh I could do that yeah but then if you see a actual Pro in real life yeah like that makes sense why you went pro now actually we need to do more charity so that was fun that was fun there are a lot going on it's just timings cuz there's so many things going on during summer and that's usually when charity matches go down yeah but you got to work in the schedules either you're away or I'm away or there's a brand trip or something has to be submitted in time was crazy yeah but um no I'm sure we're going to do a lot more stuff with Red Bull as well so that's exciting um but anyway we then got the taxi to Alex Alexandra Palace Ali pal come on and um I've only just realized that's why it's Ali P really yeah I just thought that Ali P was the hill and Alexandre Palace was no way Ali now I've just heard it okay that's Ali P right anyway U you almost did a off the TV intro that right right so then we uh we got into the race so no we got into the Zone where the race was going on yeah and we got to have a little scout out all the public submitted soap boxes some really cool stuff in there yeah although there was one weird one because we rock up and there are like four girls gathered around water is essentially a double bed one girl just tucked up and you back like oh this is cool and she was like yeah it's really cozy get in we were like no I I ain't doing all that I'm sure though that you know that wasn't actually her like lying in it yeah I know you could tell something was weird under the covers but I was not getting involved what what what the hell um oh you can't see my soundboard I've got to pull this back so I can soundboard here yeah he hasn't got a soundboard yet thank goodness although I should no they all see the comments by the way Lara and Arthur see the comments and Lara even said into the group chat she was like I think we need to get bat of soundboard because of all the comments she sent me a message being like listen we've got one purchase a year we can authorize either we get cool mugs or batch gets a soundboard and I was like mugs mugs oh hell no I just think it's so much funnier when you do it yourself and go to I do think so but this is going to get worn down and eventually there's going to be a Hole uh oh audio listeners don't know what I'm doing I I just I pretend there's a soundboard and I just push the sof and make my I do it as well I do it in real life I'll be speaking to people when I'm BR but it doesn't make his much sense in real life just in a conversation he's just air poking stuff as he goes brh you know what's so funny as well I showed batch this someone one of you guys one of our listeners because cuz I you do it quite a lot but I do it all the time at you do the what yeah what that thing someone did a Tik Tok called whatting people in public so she goes into this petrol station goes to pay she goes like how much is that and he goes like Oh 1350 and she just goes what loud so loud just yells it in this man's face and everyone was like bad bad you guys have to recreate this it was so funny yeah and then Arthur was like we've got to do this we've got I don't know if I have the like what is it um social confidence to do that I'd be able to do it not yell it I thought it was a bit rude though the loud yelling not in a bad I'm not criticizing you I just able to do that like that myself I'd be like what I think sorry you got no no soup of the day what what when you have a camera on you though that you get a new found confidence in public like I found no no no in general I don't know if you agree with this in like a sidan video I Feel Like rules don't apply like social rules then don't apply cuz you've got a camer on you and you can do what you want whatever you want yeah I've only recently started being able to finally find it within myself to Vlog like when we were at wagas I was like this is actually fine yeah whereas before IID look at people vlogging in public and I go I admire you a lot cuz I can never do that it helps having people around you yeah although I feel like we do it with our phones it's a bit easier that's true whereas if people with their cameras out like facing their way I'm like oh my goodness I'd be so embarrassed yeah I think I would be as well especially if you got like a big rig on the end of that thing people are just admiring you your rig yeah both of them come on anyway um what speaking of the soap boxes that we saw um there was this one there was like these four guys like lying down chilling and they had this like Dome oh yeah which was kind of like a I guess like a spa you know the space shuttles that come down to earth it kind of looked a bit like that didn't yeah um like a landing module yeah like a landing module and they what did what did they make it off fiberglass or something yeah oh my God you could smell it from where we were still and they were like stick your head in that so we stuck it you stuck your head in first took a whiff and I did it afterwards oh my God dizzying genuinely dizzying I'm high I'm still high from that moment if anyone's ever been in like a a surfboard shop where they like make the surfboards yeah it smells like that it just smell exactly like that and they bizarre I just burped on I thought that was what that was that was disgusting hopefully that didn't get picked up apologize sorry guys sorry if you heard that cut that out anyway um it's not getting cut uh it they had to spend the whole run down in that thing so I think those guys are a little bit waved yeah I'm glad we I'm glad we were just a team of two and had two seats because I kind of felt bad some people that pushed the Soap Box thing down yeah like running after it for like 50 meters and it was a hot day that's true like um most people was like a team of four and two would push two would be in it I think that's standard isn't it to have two people in the so box and then a team that will push and Chase it down probably chase down chip and freezies yeah funny it was funny as well the way he was running because I guess it was like a it was like Looney Tunes the way he had his arms up like that chasing them down to be fair there are people I felt more bad for he talking about some of the injuries of the day oh my God and this is the thing like good gosh man we were already nervous then we were then we got to S see our um vehicle which they had made some mods to by the way so put me at ease a little bit they put foam in the place where my head would smash oh yeah so I felt about that yeah um they didn't they were going to cut out the wheel arches so we could turn more but they didn't I'm glad they I actually think that worked in our favor in it did um and they were actually slagging it off when it went up on towards stage they were speaking about it on Mike and they were like they can't turn properly they can't see over it and I was thinking oh no they're slagging off our thing they were talking about our buckets on the back and stuff I don't know if they were slagging off the buckets or just speaking about I just heard bucket like they're talking about ours oh my god um but it actually worked in favor and then there was screens up showing the first runs and it took a while it like an hour or two after we got there till the first run um but did you see the Sheep one no I didn't see any of the big ones but that's a bad one there was a sheep we I was watching a sheep go down um it was just before you did your stunt I think and it got all the way to the end and then at full speed flipped over onto their necks and I think it was one of them that broke their collarbone and it looked awful and after seeing that me and pieace was stood together we were like I we genuinely don't want to go down after seeing that he was [ __ ] it I was [ __ ] it um and then not only that I think other people must have like been bruised or whatever but the other big one that we heard about is we when we got to the start line we were there waiting for like 10 minutes and it was cuz the person who went down before us got knocked out so that's crazy yeah which I didn't see I don't think we'll ever see any footage of that but I don't know what vehicle it was or anything I just heard that they got knocked out that's why we were up there for ages yeah I mean it was going down insanely fast yeah it look I mean it looks quick on camera but it doesn't look nearly as quick as it feels yeah when you're in that thing oh my goodness and you can barely see in front of you you're bouncing all over the place you're hitting these jumps there are bits where there's foam that like splashes you in the face you have a few seconds of blindness yeah it's mental it it to best describe it definitely feels faster than sitting in a car at 60 MPH I'd say faster than it feels sitting in a car going 100 yeah cuz you're so exposed to we've never gone 100 I've been on the auto bar in Germany okay fair um but yeah you're exposed so it just feels so quick but we were quick insanely Qui insanely quick I think everyone we were the first of the creators to go up everyone thought we were going to just crash yeah or just be crap and slow there was so many comments so many DMs I got afterward was like [ __ ] fair enough before we even went down though before we get cuz we we will react we'll show you us going down yeah but I think we should tell them actually maybe should we hit play and then we'll pause at certain bits to be like explainer yeah I'll tell you what it plays it goes all the way through and then they do it in slow-mo afterwards we can on the slow-mo we'll do some explanation okay here we go batch and Arthur we had the podcast sticker oh it was such a good sticker on the side which was really cool and they zoomed in out loads for the YouTube video which is great yeah was all over the stream which was ideal although you cannot see podcast there until someone shads over it yeah someone's just shattering we were stood up there for ages genuinely yeah because someone had just been knocked out looking down this hill that was just so steep it's not funny but look at that thing that's so impressive it's so well built I can't believe it and I'm I'm gutted because I actually wanted to say to the we had a little bit of help from the Red Bull Engineers yeah I wanted to say thank you to them more just be like what did you see that that was really good yeah if anyone knows anything by any chance please pass on our thanks because yeah they they helped us hopefully they watched it and saw a great deal uh but we did do a lot I mean we did spend two full days building this thing and printing it up and stuff so yeah which you'll obviously see in the Vlog I'll talk about I'll talk about something later cuz there's um this was posted to Tik Tok and there's some funny comments on there really basically yeah basically calling us desk dwellers what so this is our performance so this performance we didn't know we no was supposed to do we we were told to choose a piece of music so we chose something like Space Odyssey style but we had no idea that meant we had to perform yeah and like like she's saying like there are points for performance and we knew about 10 minutes beforehand that this 30 second period of Music we'd have to Performance so we were like let's just do something simple gum shields in the mouth bow and get in and they were harsh they gave us a three but that also also counts to the way the vehicle looks so I think three is Harsh yeah but here we go performance score 22 poor but this is when we started racking up speed the steering was really weird as well cuz it changed as we got quicker and we were just bouncing as we went down like we'd hit a ramp and oh my goodness like almost front flipped that around we Whi around the corner and our our genuine one of our wings like clipped a ha Bell and just sliced through it that one sliced through the hay Bell I was thinking as we came down I swear I would have hit that side had I not hit that side and then nailed the braking and you said you could smell burnt rubber when you were breaking on that thing cuz I was like tickling the brakes like before a jump every now and then I do one all as we approached the chicane I pulled it yeah um but they said as we were going down in the commentary like yeah oh this feels fast usually you're hitting like low 20s here and it comes up on the side and we're hitting 30 km an hour yeah we were going and we were oh my goodness I'm glad you didn't break touch the break though we didn't need it yeah yeah I mean you did a did a little bit but I mean the others obviously touched it a lot more yeah I basically kept us at a speed where I was like this is very close to the line of like where we can make this corner at the speed because at the end of the day as a race and I was like we don't want to get up at the end and just be like oh like a couple of the soite boxes made it halfway down and just like stopped completely yeah and they were like having to like like I don't know like Shake It Forward it's so awkward like we did speak and we did say we'd actually rather crash going pretty quick than come to a grinding hle because it's just not good material yeah like we did it for Content wants to see that it's for a video we know representing creators at half time yeah so many people watching we've got a space shuttle that is designed at a velocity of 17,000 500 mph yeah so we were like you know hitting to be honest when they gave us those uh cuz we asked for special helmets that covered the face yeah when they gave me that I felt invincible and I thought oh [ __ ] it and we had gum Shields that we like ped poured into boiling water molded them before and molded them so we we felt pretty safe yeah I mean but still at 30 we weren but I don't have miles hour or kilm an hour I think it was mph I actually do really yeah but whatever it is at 30 like genuinely like just whacking your head against something solid is well I mean someone did get knocked out and broke it was terrifying yeah they they then do a slow-mo okay let's watch the slow-mo and we can break down exactly because I was thinking there was a point in the chicane when we really Whi round I was thinking why did that happen it was because the back right wheel wasn't on the ground when we were coming up to the chicane so when it touched the the ground it turned us into a corner so I was like [ __ ] and I had to spin it around one way and then back around the other way oh that's why we had that major wobble yeah and you can see it it's like it's cuz one of the wheels wasn't on the ground okay let's let's watch and like in the first one we'll try and go for the audio listeners kind of describe what we're seeing yeah so the first jump yeah we it was a heavy a heavy bit of Kit as well we definitely had one of the heavier ones it and it was like so we got through here the back that wheel wasn't on the ground so like had to correct it well the chicane of just having to go really quick left and then really quick right after yeah and then this pit we hit a bunch of stairs and bch basically grinds on the right hand of them it's cuz afterwards we had to be on the right hand side so I was thinking I can't turn directly after I'm going to have to turn on the ramp like the CL the the course is split in two with like steps on the left and straight on the right and we go down the steps but like half dangling off yeah you have a choice whether to do jumps or not obviously we were going to do the jumps cuz you get docked time um no they add time on if you go round cuz it's a bit unfair yeah but we you were just like let's head it yeah and after the first jump it it looks like we really jump around I don't know about you but in it it didn't feel that bad I I think I'm the exact opposite cuz I was going flying and my bum still Hur May was our positioning or cuz I was holding on to this when yeah I had nothing to hold on to I was just sat on a blue seat I re yeah I reckon that's what it was cuz it kept me like sort of planted you fix and you're in the center so with us like when when you go off the Jump the nose sort of goes down yeah it did and then the back col kicks up into the air and then slams down and because I'm at the back you really got you know I've got a lot further to fall and I just got whacked and my butt like when I sit on the sofa like no I can feel it bruised on I was actually un unscared I was absolutely fine yeah God it was um after that first jump though I got a lot more confidence in the run I was thinking oh that was fine I can we can do all the [ __ ] jumps yeah I just got full speed no I rate it I'm so glad you just sent it cuz and you I mean you didn't have a choice sending it yeah you just you na yeah exactly you could SL down but uh I they miked us did they mic you up CU they miked me up but I said nothing the whole run yeah why would you you couldn't because the thing is I was so focused I think it's because we went so quick because there's a Red Bull posted a video on their Tik Tok page where because they miked up chip and freezy and um it's off chip speaking to freezy and he's like on the brakes off the brakes okay we're going to go around this now and I think it's CU they were using the brakes and communicating about the brakes that they had stuff to say but because we were just you told me before you weren't going to touch the brake so I thought okay he's really not there's no point saying anything and you know whether it's a Brak or not so I was just thinking I'm just going to drive I was literally only thinking like I'm only going to slow us down if I feel like at this speed we either can't hit that jump properly or can't go around the corner and I was just tickling it and it was only at the end like I was like I've got to wait until we cross the finish line before I can break and I just Ram it and because it was a friction break it's like literally a metal bar that just pulls down onto both of the rear wheels it just starts smelling like burning rubber actually nailed that was so good though cuz we literally landed after that last jump we landed and I was like [ __ ] the Finish is right there and all I could hear was I just knew he pulled that thing so hard we came around the corner and didn't touch a single thing because he broke just in time yeah and the thing was untouched like the they said they it could get sent back to one of us so I send it to my house um I got I didn't tell you this yet I got a DM from someone saying I'm just about to watch your soap box get destroyed what no it's been graveyard we took it to a graveyard but we put it to one side no they told us we could have it uh yeah oh the guy might be lying I I pray he is cuz that's so harsh but I saw it in the DM request I was like [ __ ] surely not we should M message Adam but I think a big part of the reason we couldn't speak or do much else is because we weren't so full s we did that in 36 seconds chip and freezy were the second fastest in our group I think and they were 44 seconds yeah so we were we were literally seven or eight seconds I mean I don't exactly know what their milliseconds were but we were seven or eight seconds faster than them and I mean the difference like you watch them go down and they're sort of doing a decent speed but I thought them being go- karters you know they've got their Senor frogs they race every year yeah I was like they're going to bomb it too yeah but they kind of just played it relatively safe I mean good time time but like I do think we we absolutely Center and we had this guy come up to us at the end like should you say yeah say and this guy comes up to us and go don't like freak out now or anything um but we're checking because we genuinely think this was one of the fastest of all time yeah like fastest soap boxes ever he thought we hit the world record run right there and then and they cuz they had to check them by the millisecond yeah and we were a fraction of a second off being the fastest ever 1 18 of a second something something ridiculous like that and uh so I think we were either the second or the third fastest of all time yeah there were rumors at the end of the day and I don't know whether it was Chip just winding us up being like the last car of the day was slightly faster yeah they they yeah they said something like the last car of the day actually broke the world record so if that is true we're the third fastest of all time if not we are the second fastest of all time to go down that track and we rather the second of the first fastest of this year's event which is just just the coolest thing ever like we to be fair have also like we couldn't have picked a design that was Better Built For Speed I mean it's so people were saying this is this is aerodynamic and I was thinking it is but I don't think it's going to make that much of a difference in this yeah scenario and whether it did or not or whether it was just the fact that you didn't break much yeah I think that was it it was quite heavy it was heavy as well you had one of the heavy ones so at the start you can tell this was one of the things we were saying we should have got two people cuz we only got Jake to shove us at the start yeah and when when you start off just going down the ramp it took us a while to pick up speed if we had sort of been shoved and started at a really good pace and kept it at that pace I genely think we could have built the record but I'm I want to do it again same that's why I wanted to keep that cuz we could have just modified that and send it down we know that's a winning formula yeah make it into a submarine or something yeah exactly that thing works but Red Bull like they they we had such a great time with them they did so much for us and we were so grateful and we were speaking see nothing guaranteed and stuff um but they were saying there's a potential for us to come back and maybe do the one that you know you launch off a ramp and you're like 10 m up whatever and you've got to Glide over water as far as possible there and there are loads of other sort of like cool Red Bull events and stuff to do so um yeah I think we make this a thing if we can do just more of this stuff yeah I loved it it was genuinely one of the best things I've ever done I think yeah and there's a the the the only annoying thing is there's so much footage it's going to take a while to get the video together because Red Bull have Clips we have clips they've sent us a hard driver clipse I've got stuff on my phone B has stuff on his phone Jake has stuff on his phone so we'll gather it all together but when the video comes out I think it'll be such a good one because so good the whole experience was just the coolest thing ever and we couldn't be more grateful to Red Bull for that the perfect run at the end we just ended it so perfectly the whole experience I think yeah it couldn't have gone better afterwards I so cool yeah I couldn't get the helmet off though we got to the very end I could not figure out how to unclip the helmet so I did the interview with a helmet on yeah they could not hear thing as well you hear me go oh the atmosphere was electric and I know he said the electric thing and then we um yeah we Kenny from South Park hanging out with us we to I finally I got someone to take my helmet off we drove the soap box down to the graveyard thing but they said they weren't going to break it we put it to one side it might be broken and then we had to run up the hill because we had to get on the live stream to do an interview straight afterwards yeah and oh my God you realize how far we came down Running Up That thing that it was 400 to 500 M back up a relatively Steep Hill on a very hot day we were exhausted from the day before and uh being out the night before and having the race and all that kind of stuff and in boiler suits and it was a hot day boiling I got so sweaty at the top we got to the top and we were like that was just a thoroughly unenjoyable experience but it was cool cuz there I heard I don't I think I told you at the time I heard a kid as we ran past he was like oh my God racers felt like an F1 driver in that moment yeah that really went straight to my head yeah I bet we felt a lot cooler than we probably looked just running around in boiler suits and I'm my Red Bull cap on we had shades on surprised he hasn't got that red bull cap on today by the way that thing you're going to have to peel that off his dead body I've been wearing it so much lady just cuz I I love it it's good for green screen stuff that is the one thing I I might start wearing cuts out the wispy hair yeah it cuts out the wispy hair which kind of ruin the illusion I've got that real issue whereas when you wear a cap it's like a smooth round thing and the green screen just looks much better I see my editors have all been like wear a cap as often as possible oh so they even so they tell you what to do huh you're not Char they do interesting well I keep my editors locked away and then I give them footage and they're like please I want to see my family please share an editor now no King yeah we do shout out king great honestly fantastic worker his work ethic he sent me a video and like couple hours later he was like actually here's a V2 I watched it back and I I could see some improvements I was like kind of mentality and he's not been editing for long either yeah so he's I think all selft talk cow's amazing as well they're both just great honestly yeah people listening a fascinated here about how much we love our tives yeah let's get back to the Red Bull so box race so then we did our interview at the very top which is when cuz we went down first so we were Then followed by all the other creators who did the race um we didn't really get to see them at the time cuz we were running up the the bloody Hill but um we got to the top they all slowly joined us did their interview and then it got revealed the scores so there were different categories we were like ranked on or scored on the first being performance and I I'm pretty sure the style of the cart comes into that as well yeah and so we what did we get like what was it 20 22 it was really bad 40 terrible score we got like a seven a six a three and a five something like that whoever gave us a three what's wrong with you huh they were grumpy though cuz I think chip and frezy got something like 39 and the guy that person gave them a nine apparently they were really mean scoring the whole time that's crazy but chip and fzy knew about the performance thing which we I know how they knew about that we had no idea chip and freezy raced as a box of 20 chicken McNuggets yeah and they brought like homemade barbecue sauce and just on each other yeah pry just poured it all over them it was good like as performances go that's like the best thing you can do yeah so they got a really great score like almost perfect just one guy dropped a mark on it um 39 out 40 but I feel like I feel like giving us a three was really harsh I know our performance wasn't great but the music was very fitting yeah and maybe we should have pretended we were on the moon with our jumping or something like walking like that he just had such a cool carard we had so little time to think about it yeah I feel like it was harsh though look at our car that was really cool yeah maybe we were also ranked harshly because we were the first creators to go down maybe maybe we would have got a better score if we were towards the end I don't know yeah maybe but um yeah we did really bad on that and then you get obviously score for your speed in finishing the race yeah which we smashed Everyone by like four four seconds or something or seven or eight yeah like seven or eight seconds Quicks first to second and the second fastest and I think Becky and pieace got a dnf finish either they hit a minute or they stopped completely yeah cuz they went over one of the jumps and then front end broke so the wheel wasn't really like or the front was touching the floor dragging across the floor so they just I felt bad for them they just ped all across but at least they got down in one piece that's the they were just in a pint glass yeah it was really cool and they had a they had a cool performance Becky poured pint on um pie which was funny um con and Jack had a cool performance they just had some Swagger about it like yeah it was cool oh yeah we got picked on the performance but they did struggle getting into the vehicle did they yeah CU it's really hard and narrow to get in um they got they everyone got all the way to the end by the way Colin Jack fell over at the end there thing just went on its side they they chose thinner Wheels I didn't think they were going to make it that far yeah they also had a really high center of gravity cuz their car was thin and quite tall yeah like if you looked at their car it looked like it wanted to fall over it was a bit like chitty chitty bang bang but like elongated yeah so they did really well to and they were drifting it as well it was drifting so they did really well to get to the bottom um but yeah we were like seven seconds quicker than seven or eight seconds quicker than the second fastest which was it chip and freezy or was it Con I think it might have been no chip and frezy was Heavy wasn't it to be fair so that would move um and then there was People's Choice which we said we won 49% and was those were those those three so I think the reason so we ended up coming third we came third out of the four I just think it wasn't like cuz we won two out of three categories you'd think we'd win but I think they gave they were sort of like weighted yeah so because we were so low on the performance us being ahead on the other two bits didn't pull us up enough I think it's really harsh I think it doesn't matter at all by the way I don't I don't care but I do think it's harsh that performance is weighted so heavily in comparison to like speed has got to be the most important thing yeah like it's a race I know that's that's the way we were looking at it that's because it's a race come on we were focus on the race as aspect obviously soap boxes isn't Formula 1 is supposed to be like a bit of fun cretive stuff which you do get um but yeah hard winning two out of three categories and winning the race comfortably well it was more like at in the moment when they were revealing who won out of us four I was thinking in my head oh we've definitely won yeah after winning we got like 50% of the votes for People's Choice so it was a landslide Victory they said and a landslide Victory on the speed so I was thinking we have smashed those two things so surely we've gained loads of points for that yeah and we came third I was like I'm actually quite shocked by that I in my head I was thinking oh my God we've won yeah but um no it was so means anything like there's I don't there's nothing for it yeah I was just surprised but genuinely so it was so good yeah it was it was definitely definitely one of the best things I've ever done I was so glad that we did it I can't wait for the proper video to come out and have it all like a documentary s of documented archive just being like Oh I can look back at that video that was a banger yeah oh it was it was really good um then we stuck around and watched some public racing um and yeah there was it was it was nice there was a nice like area where you could get food and stuff and the worms showed up oh yeah lots of the patreon supporters a couple of N and non patreon people showed up lots of podcast people I'm guessing everyone there was podcast listeners because I didn't really put it on any platform no I think it it was all podcast we spoken about on the on on the podcast and in the patreon group chat quite a lot yeah and that was pretty much it so thank you well regardless if it's yeah thank you guys for coming along cuz it was so nice speaking to everyone great really great to have your support um yeah and yeah you guys were there for most of the day just like stood by our um what do you call it Soap Box stood by our Soap Box we were coming over when we could to say hi and stuff yeah everyone got photos we oh my goodness quite a lot of people wanted us to draw tattoos for them oh dear and we are not artistic no we're close yeah I'm a letter away but I not draw sa in my life and I was like the only thing I could think of was the rocket emoji yeah that was pretty good to be fair I was trying to draw them but getting the three little things at the bottom and the fire I was like I was like show this to your artist and they'll get what I'm trying to draw yeah they'll understand I mean I just ended up drawing flowers CU it's the easiest thing to draw it's got nothing to do with me a lot of art what just happened you just got bored of your own conversation I just yawned I was hoping you take it off me really quickly cuz I yawned no someone asked for a cameo once where they were like can you draw something for us to do a tattoo and I did a a ringed planet oh nice and oh my goodness trying to get cuz obviously if you put the circle there first the ring that goes in front like cuts through lines and it looks crap so you've kind of got to start with the ring but obviously just as the ring curves back around you have to stop and then you have to imagine where the sphere is going to be and oh my goodness I burnt through about half this notebook trying to get one that just looks semi-reasonable so whoever invented Saturn fair enough yeah exactly that must have been difficult and Uranus yep that's also ringed yeah um many too many rings yeah I've got a ring do you oh yeah and that weekend batch proposed to me so I said yes no I'm talking about my ass what anyway um it was it was a different kind of proposition to the one you were thinking of yours is way cuter than mine and I said no oh hell no I just got that that's disgusting cuz I was like on Saturday night we were just chilling we were like go we're exhausted yeah and I was like do you want to just stay around and Bach was like yeah so we played fornite and watch scary movies yeah he took me to get sushi again yeah we went to sticks and Sushi again but I was like I kind of want to make more videos but we were just so tired yeah I it was too late you just what you made me watch horror stuff we we watched a bunch of scary videos on YouTube like real ghost sightings and short horror movies and I was like I've wanted to do videos like that with you ages I was like then was the perfect time but our energy was just shock yeah we'll do it we'll definitely do it another time though CU people just love that love that horror game yeah is entertaining to watch other people get scared people don't want to watch you have fun they want to watch you cringe and be scared people enjoyed us having fun of Minecraft true but you were scared of I died like five six times I'm not very good clearly everyone's making fun of me did I die once I didn't I don't think no but your spirit died at one point hell no my spirit my spirit was always my spirit were through the roof um when I was getting attacked by Leona Lewis and I was hiding in the house turns out Leona Lewis can't go in water so I should have just gone in water I saw that comment yeah thanks for that thanks for the comment I'm actually going to use that logic and I I already want to film episode three right now do you yeah it was so fun we'll do it this week actually it's so fun like I enjoy playing it we're just loading up M fil although he needs a he needs a setup can we can we tell this boy to put some money towards a proper setup he plays on his PlayStation so we have to play Bedrock Edition so I can't use my nice shaders that make the waters and everything look clean and all the like graphics and stuff you know the like it's T's water we're keeping it the graphics upgrades are insane look just just a bit enjoy a humble bit of like Minecraft where it's nostalgic not everything has to be polished yeah okay fine um but no it was it was really good fun and it is it is I do love that we can just do that kind of stuff and just play a game and it would be fun yeah um we can just like high five when we want yeah anyway um back to let's go back in time to um the end of the race he wet himself no he didn't he didn't no he didn't but um I just want to make sure that we covered everything no because we didn't speak about um the stunt the stunts oh yeah you should tell them about the stunt they they just flung on you they didn't tell you until yeah they didn't tell me about this before and they made me sign my rights away yeah and it it was they had already Ked off the live stream so you just had to do it yeah um we basically batch got nice one he got pulled aside and they were like oh is the driver we're testing your reflexes yeah and what did they do they so she dropped a ruler and you just had to grab the ruler um as soon as she dropped it and just see how many centimeters you let drop to judge your reaction time I didn't do I think I came second actually nice but on the practice I failed uh so I was like oh that was nice and peaceful and fun I wonder what mine's going to be and they get me and they they I put this heart monitor on and I was like what they put this heart monitor on me put me in the middle of this cage and this dude called like Douglas or something comes up in this massive dirt bike and just goes like I'll lie down in the middle and I was like I know exactly where this is going got R to me and Jack just start planking and he's sort of in this giant he giant of a man I swear he's like 6'4 in this massive dirt bike and he's sort of there like on one wheel bouncing the like wheel like an inch from my head and I'm like if he just if anything misjudges he crushes my skull yeah like we we we lose one of the Bright Young talents of this generation and you as well wait what do you mean well they'd get Jack and you oh yeah yeah good old Jack and then then he was doing like wheelies around your head like just driving past full speed past his head yeah it was giving me the E actually see lie down there insane and I was just like well I'm playing it cool cuz that's like the name of the game it'd be cringe if I got up and I mean they they even said that if you get up you're at risk of just getting your head whacked cuz he's like an inch within your head so if you move it until you die yeah um and for like a minute he just did this and bounced around and yeah you were down there for a hot minute yeah we were there for ages just getting driven around I thought oh this is just getting this is just cruel now yeah I mean the poor boy is just lying there with a boner by the way uh because he gets that happens when he gets scared just why you think I keep getting you for horror games oh no i h on a Bo so he's just doing circling circling circling around Arthur on the floor it just I just felt a bit sorry for him in the end yeah uh so that was terrifying but good F night you know I'm up for anything I did realized the other day I'm just one of his friends who's just up for thing yeah you are actually someone could be like hey we're going to sit inside and watch movies tonight I be like fine or they can be like come on man we're robbing a bank I'm like cool they'll be like come on going glamping for the weekend do you is that real though if I said or okay let's go and watch the Euros tonight fine let's do it England England this is the last night of the group stage and all of a sudden the mood is really dead because we're just through now we've not played well either it's been pathetic there I said it and Harry Kane when you finally come on this podcast I've got some strong words to have with you mine mine Reserve is Gareth Southgate and not bringing BR and not playing kobby Mayu okay sorry Harry Kane actually way he's playing phenomenally to be not as if we're missing him but I'm mad at you Southgate yeah Italy um not playing too bad oh my goodness you're Italian did you watch the game last night and they scored the 90th plus eight to go through 98th minute it was the draw against Croatia oh that was heartbreaking poor the thing is they probably would have gone through anyway as one of the people third but um it's nice to confirm it you know yeah those moments of elation just so hard I think Italy just like a decent Striker anyway we won't bore you with football because a lot of people probably don't care about football yeah um but yeah I mean I'm getting into F1 now yes you are you watch drive to survive right yeah I've been watching drive to surv I need to get on that I really want to watch that um and hence why the Red Bull so box race I was really in I was really in my element Because You Loved does it make you love Red Bull as well the driver to survive does it follow a particular team it follows the mall and to be honest I haven't really got like a team I really um it's not like I really want to see this team win it's more people that you care about it's good to see Red Bull doing well but um I like Lando do you yeah you're Lando Norris enjoyer I'm a Lando enjoyer I like them all to be fair from what I've seen I like I get I like Char all oh cuz he kind he kind of looks like Charles mclair uh yeah I get uh Lando Norris a lot people always say like L nor I'm not sure about that boy and uh obviously like V stappen red the Red Bull goat what batch V stappen high five what does that even mean batch for steppen me batch for steppen batch for steppen me instead of Max for Sten batch for Sten it's one of the only times that batch really goes into anything batch for Sten what do people nickname you at school get tuna boy cuz I've brought in tuna fish boy uh right I was going duckling I was going for more names like name related like okay because I was oh name related I was I was called nothing I was just called Arthur I don't know why I said it like that I was called Nothing me yeah had no friends at school no I didn't really people would say ice as a joke ice yeah I just I didn't like not having a cool nickname name my sister one of my sisters calls me Izzy that's really cringe and feminine yo she watches these which is fine yo she watches these apologize down the lens right now I apologize nothing cuz it is it was true it was my truly held opinion and you should never apologize for being yourself sometimes she calls me Elizabeth as well what and I don't really know where she got that from she started that was a good what what yeah she watches it where she works as she was working she'll have it on Gizzy by the way I didn't get cancelled for what Sunday came out where I waterboarded Chris I haven't watched that and I was seriously worried I was genuinely like I thought you know just some people on the internet can be real yeah cuz they might be like oh you're making fun of water boarding people actually die from water boarding that's not what I exactly what I meant oh because okay you can't waterboard Chris because he doesn't like water and some people have been drowned before no okay of course because because you shouldn't do water boarding because it's like saying this is something you should it's really on impressionable fans and they'll be like okay I'm going to water board my mom tonight right maybe maybe that was like oh you shouldn't do that on to an impression I'm going to cancel you right now in that case um but no I I I just thought people would be like oh that was so mean of him they're not friends like just you know when you don't really know I mean obviously anyone who's seen Chris and videos knows how much abuse he puts me through I mean that guy abuse shs down on my neck like there's no tomorrow he's just I I'll just be chilling mid shootting he'll just go on my traps I mean granted they're juicy like they're nice muscular defined um have you ever thought you might just be a vampire I don't know hiding in plain sight you know you've got two Pierce marks right there you getting sucked by you've got really garlicky breath so I don't think I could be a a vampire cuz otherwise let's not start rumors like that otherwise I'd run there's not start rumors like that yeah my breath smells like daisies rainbows fairy tales I'm always chewing gum you are always chewing gum you're a real gum chewer yeah it Bo it boosts your confidence it's like putting a pair of sunglasses on I'm glad you don't do it on the podcast that would be the most annoying thing to listen to I have done it before but I just tuck it into my teeth like snz you don't mean that it's gum you don't mean that it's gum it's just weird you don't mean that it's gum gum started freaking out you know we were speaking about eggs the other day when you you're Midway through eating heads and you're like wait up yeah that's a period something ain't right that's a menstrual cycle raor and you're like yeah well that weirdly makes me like it more it's more than I knew you were a feminist me too come on yeah um we do like to bring awareness to the fact that women exist and have Cycles cuz I I I mentioned menstrual cycles all the time and I in one of my YouTube videos I was like I've got to stop saying menstrual cycles drop a comment if you think I should stop saying menual cycle everyone's like no and someone's like no it actually feels kind of feminist in a weird way cuz you're bringing light to the fact of cuz not everyone knows that women have I think everyone knows women have periods I found out 3 days ago watching your video you thought they had penis what I just thought they merely existed they merely exist in a in a realm Between Heaven and Hell where somewhere I love doesn't exist what the hell is this guy talking about women only exist in heaven women are heaven on Earth in my opinion how does that song Go heaven heaven for what it's worth women are heaven on Earth women are heaven on Earth brother in Christ you don't know what you're talking about right now I feel like we're getting on to Serious brain rot have you got anything else this is a rare batch prepared actually been praying preparing a lot um all of the episodes lately we've actually yeah hence why the quality's increased um no you just you do stuff in a different way I like like reading and talking reading well next episode's prepared by by Arthur and we'll be filming this directly after this one yeah we're doing complet transparency cuz batch is way on holiday and I'm going to be honest because I'm not I've not brought a spare pair of clothes anyway yeah me neither I don't want to hear no comments like why is he wearing that shirt again well they should be comenting CU alth this on an episode before quite frankly Arthur is either can I just say by the way I predicted what you were going to be wearing on the Red Bull meal I said Arthur will turn up in Black corduroy shorts um and a cream beige top shirt either worn as an overshirt with a white t-shirt underneath or just a shirt that's exactly what you were that's true I mean I have two other pairs of shorts I had a black like pair that were like had textured but the waistband thing snapped hard to find a good pair of shorts and then I had a nice like cream beige pair yeah um but they were just like I don't know linen and just ended up being a bit too and take it from a guy a sleepover with him he doesn't take them off he showers in them he goes me to take them off he was like take them off take them off take them off and I was like leave me alone yeah I was like please wash please wash you were just misreading me I wasn't saying take them off I was like please wash please wash anyway I I got the um I went into the patreon chat o uh little plug if you want to join the patreon go ahead there's a chat you get early access to episodes they get uploaded all the time and Bullies me in it yeah I do speak in there a fair amount um and I said to them we're filming two pods today can you guys reply to this message with any questions you have about the Red Bull Soapbox race we're going to be doing a whole episode on it uh because I thought there might be you know they might want to know more information on how it was built or how we were feeling and stuff and we could just give us some insight to that we've just explained the day how cool it was blah blah blah but they want to know the BTS let's see how insightful their questions can be okay did you hurt your nose that's [ __ ] rude no I didn't that obviously pointed at you no I didn't to be fair I did we had said in an episode prior that there was no foam and we are going to smash our faces in they put foam in we had good helmets on but we didn't actually crash so yeah we didn't crash so although his coxic bone is in pain yeah my coxics I'm absolutely fine because I'm not weak that's your tailbone um may ask for us highly evolved Apes that was from Brooke by the way I'll say names shout outs May says how SL why did you decide to build a rocket why I guess cuz it's very on brand for us have a look at our mugs yep yeah I mean we're just we're were're a Spacey themed podcast for no apparent reason we genely I'm sure we said in the earlier episodes we had no plans to be themed and bats just randomly one day went let's just make it space themed I just think it's cool yeah me I just think we both think it's cool we do we just need a cool set I think most of the things we do is because we think oh that's cool like the Soap Box we thought oh it'd be cool if we did a a ship or a ufi yeah just cuz it just cuz it's funny someone actually messaged in for the next one I've got like the submissions from the normal submissions page which everyone can enter just go to our any of our socials at Bach and arur and in the link there's like a a link tree and one of them is the submissions form and they were like what is your target audience because I can't really figure it out and I'm studying media at the moment target audience is such a big thing and I was like we don't have one we just come on talk about whatever we find interesting yeah and just hope that some people agree yeah and the people who do listen are actually very um diverse yeah and intelligent and cool and good looking and all this yeah um so yeah no um yeah and it's weird because we're not sitting there going oh let's talk about this to appeal to this audience which I think is I mean somehow it works so thank you guys for tuning into thanks cuz I think if you analyzed it in like a media class and it was like oh one minute you're doing brain rot meme references and the next you're talking about s men and then the next we're talking about Greek philosophy and the next one like Roman Parables and then religion they'd be like well someone's going to listen to the one episode like it and then not like the rest yeah but for some reason people just like listening to it all really I think we just decided that we're just going to do what we want like yeah whatever we enjoy yeah like whatever we enjoy and whatever we F feel like talking about we're just going to do it because if you want to enjoy something you've like if you want this if we want this podcast to continue we've got to enjoy it and if we're looking at it tactically like Oh Let's do an episode on this so we can boost our audience in this demographic it will start to feel like a like a real job well like you know I've heard from other people that do podcasts that their producers will be like today you're having this guest on and they're like well I've never watched the show they're on or Never follow them don't care about the story but I've got to do it's nice that we kind of have a just able to just go oh whatever and I do think the stuff we talk about is interesting broadly like if you're someone who like whenever we meet or speak to anyone who watches the podcast they're always like oh I love like these types of interesting discussions I feel like if you have a generally curious mind yeah like if if people who are listening to this and enjoy it are going to be similar to us in that respect and they you know even if they don't have a an interest in any of the particular like they might be like oh I love hearing about religion I'm a curious person but they don't care about Greek philosophy yeah or anything when we speak about the ship of thesis they're still like oh it's an interesting thought like it's an interesting thought so if you're one of those types of people like us then all that kind of stuff is interesting I guess thus our our demographic is people who just have similar interests to us yeah or like have a similar outlook on life or yeah that's the thing it's not even like it's just it's the broad value of curiosity I think who just like they like to laugh they like a bit of Comedy cuz we even get people who disagree with us and they're like oh I'm religious I completely disagree with this all but it was so interesting to listen to and so they're not listening because we're speaking about things that they find um they agree with or they enjoy you know but they're going like oh like I like the way these topics are approached or the way this is discussed and yeah so yeah hopefully we'll try and keep that up um hey no way we're going to brain Rock 24/7 after here or no anyway um Connie asked what was your top speed we don't actually know but what did you think it was 30 well when we passed we passed the speed gate at what will be one of the fastest points and that was 30 okay mil K yeah km pH um Leia says do you think you were going to make it to the Finish Line did you think you were going to make it to the Finish Line I genuinely um did not think we were going to make it past the chicane to be honest yeah cuz I didn't realize the course was as wide as it was however the as narrow as it was you mean actually yeah yes and no the thing is it's like driving a car when you're in a car it looks like you're you're bigger than the road but actually you can fit in much smaller of a gap than you expect yourself to be able to and so when you're actually in the soap box when we were doing the chicane in my head I thought we're going to catch one of the hay bals and go flying but actually although it was actually pretty close watching it back it felt like I had enough room to get round and stuff well two hay bals we did fully slic through well yeah if the wings were like flat fronted we would have we could have just spun out flown but because the wings were just like yeah we the first one and then the second one we through that yeah um but in no I didn't think we were going to make it down in one piece to be honest I thought either we'd get to the end and there' be damage or we'd fall over at the end or we just wouldn't make it to the end cuz it's not a like it more often than not you don't make it to the end yeah so I thought statistically I didn't I didn't think we were going to make it to the end so I was surprised were you or not it's so funny because at the start you're like I really don't know but be when you're going down it's so fast and you've got to think a lot like yeah I was just constantly thinking like just monitoring whether we were going too fast or not to be like bring the speed down ever so slightly and it's everything's happening so fast you don't have time to think oh are we going to make it like any hypotheticals it's just uh pull the break break on break off break off oh my goodness are we going to make this corner are we going to too fast at how are we doing like all this kind of stuff's rushing through your head I didn't even think about it I was no so yeah I had no thoughts in my head either I think we were just on reflex at that point yeah because every yeah like Arthur said everything's coming at you so quick like before the chane I thought I had enough time to put my hand up and wave and I was like [ __ ] no I don't yeah so that's when I came back onto the wheel and did that so we really don't have much time in that thing um then Phoenix asks what was the hardest and easiest part of the creative process oh hard po was coming up with an idea for what we wanted to do as the car because we took ages like they were asking us for the design for so long and we were like we really don't know it is hard when you can do literally anything it's like the classic situation where you've got too much Choice yeah so you can't make a decision and neither necessarily creative creative types yeah so we and also it's it's difficult as well when there's two people because obviously if one person wants to do something we we agreed yeah we we didn't have any friction on what we wanted to do we because we both didn't really have an idea but you've got to make sure that what one person comes up with the other person's happy to do um but I think from the go we just suggested either a space shuttle or UFO we were both happy with those two ideas and then we had a look at some pictures and we thought okay let's go for a space sh that was it yeah so I think that um it was hard in the beginning but to to be honest the decision process was pretty easy for us in the end I do think the hardest part although that was hard I think what was harder for us was probably um building the chassis don't you think it was harder than the woodwork yeah that's probably true cuz we didn't have any engineer assistance with the underly car yeah the actual chassis itself we just had bits like we didn't have instructions for half of it we were in in a big Warehouse with just a bunch of nuts bolts rods	get on the live stream to do an interview straight afterwards yeah and oh my God you realize how far we came down Running Up That thing that it was 400 to 500 M back up a relatively Steep Hill on a very hot day we were exhausted from the day before and uh being out the night before and having the race and all that kind of stuff and in boiler suits and it was a hot day boiling I got so sweaty at the top we got to the top and we were like that was just a thoroughly unenjoyable experience but it was cool cuz there I heard I don't I think I told you at the time I heard a kid as we ran past he was like oh my God racers felt like an F1 driver in that moment yeah that really went straight to my head yeah I bet we felt a lot cooler than we probably looked just running around in boiler suits and I'm my Red Bull cap on we had shades on surprised he hasn't got that red bull cap on today by the way that thing you're going to have to peel that off his dead body I've been wearing it so much lady just cuz I I love it it's good for green screen stuff that is the one thing I I might start wearing cuts out the wispy hair yeah it cuts out the wispy hair which kind	8	6	4	get on the live stream to do an interview straight afterwards yeah and oh my God you realize how far we came down Running Up That thing that it was 400 to 500 M back up a relatively Steep Hill on a very hot day we were exhausted from the day before and uh being out the night before and having the race and all that kind of stuff and in boiler suits and it was a hot day boiling I got so sweaty at the top we got to the top and we were like that was just a thoroughly unenjoyable experience but it was cool cuz there I heard I don't I think I told you at the time I heard a kid as we ran past he was like oh my God racers felt like an F1 driver in that moment yeah that really went straight to my head yeah I bet we felt a lot cooler than we probably looked just running around in boiler suits and I'm my Red Bull cap on we had shades on	surprised he hasn't got that red bull cap on today by the way that thing you're going to have to peel that off his dead body	3,6,8	2,4,6	3	6	8	2	4	6
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0g_xJvKEb8	4,108	-0g_xJvKEb8	2024-06-27 00:00:00	[Music] what's up everybody welcome back to episode 14 of the batch and Arthur podcast yay go thanks for joining everyone we have something to reveal yes we do I know you guys don't like it when Arthur has his mug on the couch because he tends to drop things don't you never dropped anything actually okay you dropped that th done remember that well you might have noticed I also have my mug on the sofa mhm wondering why who wants to know why should we tell them something to do with one like equals one Lara maybe something to do with that exactly you guys ready see what you reveal go way for audio listeners we have white mugs with our little cartoon characters on them that's right little will I didn't want to Cheers you and I've got my little handsome space guy come on yeah Lara surprised us with these this is a gift um mine shatterproof as well apparently oh it's not sh yeah he's got a plastic mug because we know what he's like I've sippy C the audio listeners actually little rubber cppy cup with two handles well actually when Arthur drinks from a mug show them how you do it I'll I'll commentate for this he uses two hands so he grabs on the like handle and then he grabs the other hand I drink everything with two hands especially tea and Pints yeah I don't really know what is there a reason for that or not safety I guess twice as balanced is that really if one arm stops working the other one's there as a fail safe well there you go that's why he does it guys so it makes sense all after all yeah um speaking of batch and Arthur this podcast design right here yeah this has been plasted on something recently what our rocket ship oh yeah guys we just got back from the Red Bull Soap Box race and we're alive 2024 we genuinely were not sure we were going to survive no I was but we did really scared we we turned up we got to see other people's cards um and there was basically two things going on so there's like a public race and then the Creator race was like a separate thing which is streamed on YouTube If you go on Red Bull's um YouTube channel and you go on under the live tab you can actually watch the full thing yeah we were like a half time race yeah it was Bas half time show yeah there was a few people who weren't happy about the Creator's uh racing cuz they thought we were mixed in with the public but it's like a whole separate thing like we can't win any awards over the public or anything like that yeah um but but we won the hearts of the public come on yeah we did win the hearts of the public there was a a couple of things that you were like rated on as creators and one of them was People's Choice and we got a landslide victory of 44% yeah it actually ended up on 49% 50% out of four teams we got 49 everyone rounds 49 thank you to everyone who voted for us we one of four teams but we're up against chip and freezy who have a big loving audience Becky and pieace who audience and then con from the siden huge loving audience and the guy who's our cameraman on the train video the siden that's right Jack was there as well went to with con they had cool out but uh we we got to Ali p uh that's my first time there you've been there before actually I think we should start the day before okay let's let's reel that [ __ ] back because we had another sleepover kind of yeah we did have another let's just say oh no we didn't really a hotel yeah we did not have a sleepover but what did we do where did we first meet we we met at the we met at the hotel at the hotel dropped our bags off Adam was there he's the Red Bull guy that was been looking after us and he took all the creators out to dinner yeah we to find the tell first yeah chopped a pint um both hands come on yeah then we got in a taxi we went to dinner we had a create a dinner um what did you eat pizza yeah I had a really really hot hot pizza but the thing I was enjoying the most was the football we had a massive screen in front of us oh yeah cuz France were playing Netherlands NE scen I felt kind of harsh cuz the the table was positioned in a way that only half of us could see the football and the other half were just watching us watching football yeah but no he they were watching a react video basically they got to see us live reacting In the Flesh um but the meal was really good the food was really good uh Jake was struggling Jake the guy works with um Arthur they both got the same Pizza he was struggling with the heat yeah he was [ __ ] [ __ ] struggling with the Pint as well got two pints steep was steaming no cuz he was so in denial Jake yeah Jake had a couple pints and he was gone we were like you are drunk he like I am not drunk and he was getting angry mad I'm not even drunk he's I haven't even done anything later he's doing karaoke so that's belting out karaoke with his phone to the to the mic with with voice note on my God it's so that was you singing those Tunes to someone yeah we yeah CU you've been to a place before should we say the name of the place or not I actually I don't remember it anyway okay we went to this place anyway Arthur's been there before it's um like a karaoke bar with uh like an arcade and bowling and there's a dance floor and like a bar and stuff like that yeah very good fun we all went there did some karaoke went there for Arthur Hill's birthday that's how I found out about it what a place it is a cool place actually um yeah did a bit of karaoke we were in there for a couple hours doing karaoke in the end yeah um belting at tunes by the way batch can sing No Arthur can sing yeah but I think people would assume that from but that goes without saying no but but Frank Sinatra came on and oh my goodness batch was just cooking that thing anyone can sing Frank arra welcome back Frank Sinatra he died and this is him reborn wasn't wasn't he heavily involved with the mafia Frank Sinatra so are you you're a quter Italian that's true but I can't admit that no not legally anyway oops they're going to come and get me try and come and get me watch me beat beat you all up actually I shouldn't say what if they do don't come and get me please I was just kidding I've got nothing to do with him he lives on 32 Italian back street oh my god that actually is my house number H what don't say that it's not that's my apartment number as well no we you're not finding out where we live um I'm going to move in with Arthur anyway we moved in together on Minecraft yeah sort of anyway back to karaoke we had fun at karaoke then we went home we didn't get back till 3:00 a.m. silly move because we had to be up early yeah we had it well not that early we had 10: a.m. taxi picks up yeah but we met at breakfast at 9:30 it was the most romantic breakfast of my life yeah um and then stayed at the Hilton Red Bull of class they put us in there they also like what a lovely experience not only did they take us to dinner they they paid for karaoke and everything like that they covered everything shout out to Red Ball I'm going to crack One open right now and they're actually delicious all these colored red balls my actual favorite is the summer edition you guys should actually try this this is not sponsored but I'm just saying this is not even the first thing I I did I went to salburg in Austria and did some Red Bull salburg video shooting with Chris MD um we did like penal sh outs in games with mads bistrup for their YouTube channel and then did a video in it was the the final one of christed uh every time you beat a Defender the defender gets upgraded that's right yeah and we start off with like Harry R Shaw as the worst Defender when all the way up to Champions League mads bistr who fantastic player I mean yeah you realize how like when you watch t uh football on TV you think oh I could do that yeah but then if you see a actual Pro in real life yeah like that makes sense why you went pro now actually we need to do more charity so that was fun that was fun there are a lot going on it's just timings cuz there's so many things going on during summer and that's usually when charity matches go down yeah but you got to work in the schedules either you're away or I'm away or there's a brand trip or something has to be submitted in time was crazy yeah but um no I'm sure we're going to do a lot more stuff with Red Bull as well so that's exciting um but anyway we then got the taxi to Alex Alexandra Palace Ali pal come on and um I've only just realized that's why it's Ali P really yeah I just thought that Ali P was the hill and Alexandre Palace was no way Ali now I've just heard it okay that's Ali P right anyway U you almost did a off the TV intro that right right so then we uh we got into the race so no we got into the Zone where the race was going on yeah and we got to have a little scout out all the public submitted soap boxes some really cool stuff in there yeah although there was one weird one because we rock up and there are like four girls gathered around water is essentially a double bed one girl just tucked up and you back like oh this is cool and she was like yeah it's really cozy get in we were like no I I ain't doing all that I'm sure though that you know that wasn't actually her like lying in it yeah I know you could tell something was weird under the covers but I was not getting involved what what what the hell um oh you can't see my soundboard I've got to pull this back so I can soundboard here yeah he hasn't got a soundboard yet thank goodness although I should no they all see the comments by the way Lara and Arthur see the comments and Lara even said into the group chat she was like I think we need to get bat of soundboard because of all the comments she sent me a message being like listen we've got one purchase a year we can authorize either we get cool mugs or batch gets a soundboard and I was like mugs mugs oh hell no I just think it's so much funnier when you do it yourself and go to I do think so but this is going to get worn down and eventually there's going to be a Hole uh oh audio listeners don't know what I'm doing I I just I pretend there's a soundboard and I just push the sof and make my I do it as well I do it in real life I'll be speaking to people when I'm BR but it doesn't make his much sense in real life just in a conversation he's just air poking stuff as he goes brh you know what's so funny as well I showed batch this someone one of you guys one of our listeners because cuz I you do it quite a lot but I do it all the time at you do the what yeah what that thing someone did a Tik Tok called whatting people in public so she goes into this petrol station goes to pay she goes like how much is that and he goes like Oh 1350 and she just goes what loud so loud just yells it in this man's face and everyone was like bad bad you guys have to recreate this it was so funny yeah and then Arthur was like we've got to do this we've got I don't know if I have the like what is it um social confidence to do that I'd be able to do it not yell it I thought it was a bit rude though the loud yelling not in a bad I'm not criticizing you I just able to do that like that myself I'd be like what I think sorry you got no no soup of the day what what when you have a camera on you though that you get a new found confidence in public like I found no no no in general I don't know if you agree with this in like a sidan video I Feel Like rules don't apply like social rules then don't apply cuz you've got a camer on you and you can do what you want whatever you want yeah I've only recently started being able to finally find it within myself to Vlog like when we were at wagas I was like this is actually fine yeah whereas before IID look at people vlogging in public and I go I admire you a lot cuz I can never do that it helps having people around you yeah although I feel like we do it with our phones it's a bit easier that's true whereas if people with their cameras out like facing their way I'm like oh my goodness I'd be so embarrassed yeah I think I would be as well especially if you got like a big rig on the end of that thing people are just admiring you your rig yeah both of them come on anyway um what speaking of the soap boxes that we saw um there was this one there was like these four guys like lying down chilling and they had this like Dome oh yeah which was kind of like a I guess like a spa you know the space shuttles that come down to earth it kind of looked a bit like that didn't yeah um like a landing module yeah like a landing module and they what did what did they make it off fiberglass or something yeah oh my God you could smell it from where we were still and they were like stick your head in that so we stuck it you stuck your head in first took a whiff and I did it afterwards oh my God dizzying genuinely dizzying I'm high I'm still high from that moment if anyone's ever been in like a a surfboard shop where they like make the surfboards yeah it smells like that it just smell exactly like that and they bizarre I just burped on I thought that was what that was that was disgusting hopefully that didn't get picked up apologize sorry guys sorry if you heard that cut that out anyway um it's not getting cut uh it they had to spend the whole run down in that thing so I think those guys are a little bit waved yeah I'm glad we I'm glad we were just a team of two and had two seats because I kind of felt bad some people that pushed the Soap Box thing down yeah like running after it for like 50 meters and it was a hot day that's true like um most people was like a team of four and two would push two would be in it I think that's standard isn't it to have two people in the so box and then a team that will push and Chase it down probably chase down chip and freezies yeah funny it was funny as well the way he was running because I guess it was like a it was like Looney Tunes the way he had his arms up like that chasing them down to be fair there are people I felt more bad for he talking about some of the injuries of the day oh my God and this is the thing like good gosh man we were already nervous then we were then we got to S see our um vehicle which they had made some mods to by the way so put me at ease a little bit they put foam in the place where my head would smash oh yeah so I felt about that yeah um they didn't they were going to cut out the wheel arches so we could turn more but they didn't I'm glad they I actually think that worked in our favor in it did um and they were actually slagging it off when it went up on towards stage they were speaking about it on Mike and they were like they can't turn properly they can't see over it and I was thinking oh no they're slagging off our thing they were talking about our buckets on the back and stuff I don't know if they were slagging off the buckets or just speaking about I just heard bucket like they're talking about ours oh my god um but it actually worked in favor and then there was screens up showing the first runs and it took a while it like an hour or two after we got there till the first run um but did you see the Sheep one no I didn't see any of the big ones but that's a bad one there was a sheep we I was watching a sheep go down um it was just before you did your stunt I think and it got all the way to the end and then at full speed flipped over onto their necks and I think it was one of them that broke their collarbone and it looked awful and after seeing that me and pieace was stood together we were like I we genuinely don't want to go down after seeing that he was [ __ ] it I was [ __ ] it um and then not only that I think other people must have like been bruised or whatever but the other big one that we heard about is we when we got to the start line we were there waiting for like 10 minutes and it was cuz the person who went down before us got knocked out so that's crazy yeah which I didn't see I don't think we'll ever see any footage of that but I don't know what vehicle it was or anything I just heard that they got knocked out that's why we were up there for ages yeah I mean it was going down insanely fast yeah it look I mean it looks quick on camera but it doesn't look nearly as quick as it feels yeah when you're in that thing oh my goodness and you can barely see in front of you you're bouncing all over the place you're hitting these jumps there are bits where there's foam that like splashes you in the face you have a few seconds of blindness yeah it's mental it it to best describe it definitely feels faster than sitting in a car at 60 MPH I'd say faster than it feels sitting in a car going 100 yeah cuz you're so exposed to we've never gone 100 I've been on the auto bar in Germany okay fair um but yeah you're exposed so it just feels so quick but we were quick insanely Qui insanely quick I think everyone we were the first of the creators to go up everyone thought we were going to just crash yeah or just be crap and slow there was so many comments so many DMs I got afterward was like [ __ ] fair enough before we even went down though before we get cuz we we will react we'll show you us going down yeah but I think we should tell them actually maybe should we hit play and then we'll pause at certain bits to be like explainer yeah I'll tell you what it plays it goes all the way through and then they do it in slow-mo afterwards we can on the slow-mo we'll do some explanation okay here we go batch and Arthur we had the podcast sticker oh it was such a good sticker on the side which was really cool and they zoomed in out loads for the YouTube video which is great yeah was all over the stream which was ideal although you cannot see podcast there until someone shads over it yeah someone's just shattering we were stood up there for ages genuinely yeah because someone had just been knocked out looking down this hill that was just so steep it's not funny but look at that thing that's so impressive it's so well built I can't believe it and I'm I'm gutted because I actually wanted to say to the we had a little bit of help from the Red Bull Engineers yeah I wanted to say thank you to them more just be like what did you see that that was really good yeah if anyone knows anything by any chance please pass on our thanks because yeah they they helped us hopefully they watched it and saw a great deal uh but we did do a lot I mean we did spend two full days building this thing and printing it up and stuff so yeah which you'll obviously see in the Vlog I'll talk about I'll talk about something later cuz there's um this was posted to Tik Tok and there's some funny comments on there really basically yeah basically calling us desk dwellers what so this is our performance so this performance we didn't know we no was supposed to do we we were told to choose a piece of music so we chose something like Space Odyssey style but we had no idea that meant we had to perform yeah and like like she's saying like there are points for performance and we knew about 10 minutes beforehand that this 30 second period of Music we'd have to Performance so we were like let's just do something simple gum shields in the mouth bow and get in and they were harsh they gave us a three but that also also counts to the way the vehicle looks so I think three is Harsh yeah but here we go performance score 22 poor but this is when we started racking up speed the steering was really weird as well cuz it changed as we got quicker and we were just bouncing as we went down like we'd hit a ramp and oh my goodness like almost front flipped that around we Whi around the corner and our our genuine one of our wings like clipped a ha Bell and just sliced through it that one sliced through the hay Bell I was thinking as we came down I swear I would have hit that side had I not hit that side and then nailed the braking and you said you could smell burnt rubber when you were breaking on that thing cuz I was like tickling the brakes like before a jump every now and then I do one all as we approached the chicane I pulled it yeah um but they said as we were going down in the commentary like yeah oh this feels fast usually you're hitting like low 20s here and it comes up on the side and we're hitting 30 km an hour yeah we were going and we were oh my goodness I'm glad you didn't break touch the break though we didn't need it yeah yeah I mean you did a did a little bit but I mean the others obviously touched it a lot more yeah I basically kept us at a speed where I was like this is very close to the line of like where we can make this corner at the speed because at the end of the day as a race and I was like we don't want to get up at the end and just be like oh like a couple of the soite boxes made it halfway down and just like stopped completely yeah and they were like having to like like I don't know like Shake It Forward it's so awkward like we did speak and we did say we'd actually rather crash going pretty quick than come to a grinding hle because it's just not good material yeah like we did it for Content wants to see that it's for a video we know representing creators at half time yeah so many people watching we've got a space shuttle that is designed at a velocity of 17,000 500 mph yeah so we were like you know hitting to be honest when they gave us those uh cuz we asked for special helmets that covered the face yeah when they gave me that I felt invincible and I thought oh [ __ ] it and we had gum Shields that we like ped poured into boiling water molded them before and molded them so we we felt pretty safe yeah I mean but still at 30 we weren but I don't have miles hour or kilm an hour I think it was mph I actually do really yeah but whatever it is at 30 like genuinely like just whacking your head against something solid is well I mean someone did get knocked out and broke it was terrifying yeah they they then do a slow-mo okay let's watch the slow-mo and we can break down exactly because I was thinking there was a point in the chicane when we really Whi round I was thinking why did that happen it was because the back right wheel wasn't on the ground when we were coming up to the chicane so when it touched the the ground it turned us into a corner so I was like [ __ ] and I had to spin it around one way and then back around the other way oh that's why we had that major wobble yeah and you can see it it's like it's cuz one of the wheels wasn't on the ground okay let's let's watch and like in the first one we'll try and go for the audio listeners kind of describe what we're seeing yeah so the first jump yeah we it was a heavy a heavy bit of Kit as well we definitely had one of the heavier ones it and it was like so we got through here the back that wheel wasn't on the ground so like had to correct it well the chicane of just having to go really quick left and then really quick right after yeah and then this pit we hit a bunch of stairs and bch basically grinds on the right hand of them it's cuz afterwards we had to be on the right hand side so I was thinking I can't turn directly after I'm going to have to turn on the ramp like the CL the the course is split in two with like steps on the left and straight on the right and we go down the steps but like half dangling off yeah you have a choice whether to do jumps or not obviously we were going to do the jumps cuz you get docked time um no they add time on if you go round cuz it's a bit unfair yeah but we you were just like let's head it yeah and after the first jump it it looks like we really jump around I don't know about you but in it it didn't feel that bad I I think I'm the exact opposite cuz I was going flying and my bum still Hur May was our positioning or cuz I was holding on to this when yeah I had nothing to hold on to I was just sat on a blue seat I re yeah I reckon that's what it was cuz it kept me like sort of planted you fix and you're in the center so with us like when when you go off the Jump the nose sort of goes down yeah it did and then the back col kicks up into the air and then slams down and because I'm at the back you really got you know I've got a lot further to fall and I just got whacked and my butt like when I sit on the sofa like no I can feel it bruised on I was actually un unscared I was absolutely fine yeah God it was um after that first jump though I got a lot more confidence in the run I was thinking oh that was fine I can we can do all the [ __ ] jumps yeah I just got full speed no I rate it I'm so glad you just sent it cuz and you I mean you didn't have a choice sending it yeah you just you na yeah exactly you could SL down but uh I they miked us did they mic you up CU they miked me up but I said nothing the whole run yeah why would you you couldn't because the thing is I was so focused I think it's because we went so quick because there's a Red Bull posted a video on their Tik Tok page where because they miked up chip and freezy and um it's off chip speaking to freezy and he's like on the brakes off the brakes okay we're going to go around this now and I think it's CU they were using the brakes and communicating about the brakes that they had stuff to say but because we were just you told me before you weren't going to touch the brake so I thought okay he's really not there's no point saying anything and you know whether it's a Brak or not so I was just thinking I'm just going to drive I was literally only thinking like I'm only going to slow us down if I feel like at this speed we either can't hit that jump properly or can't go around the corner and I was just tickling it and it was only at the end like I was like I've got to wait until we cross the finish line before I can break and I just Ram it and because it was a friction break it's like literally a metal bar that just pulls down onto both of the rear wheels it just starts smelling like burning rubber actually nailed that was so good though cuz we literally landed after that last jump we landed and I was like [ __ ] the Finish is right there and all I could hear was I just knew he pulled that thing so hard we came around the corner and didn't touch a single thing because he broke just in time yeah and the thing was untouched like the they said they it could get sent back to one of us so I send it to my house um I got I didn't tell you this yet I got a DM from someone saying I'm just about to watch your soap box get destroyed what no it's been graveyard we took it to a graveyard but we put it to one side no they told us we could have it uh yeah oh the guy might be lying I I pray he is cuz that's so harsh but I saw it in the DM request I was like [ __ ] surely not we should M message Adam but I think a big part of the reason we couldn't speak or do much else is because we weren't so full s we did that in 36 seconds chip and freezy were the second fastest in our group I think and they were 44 seconds yeah so we were we were literally seven or eight seconds I mean I don't exactly know what their milliseconds were but we were seven or eight seconds faster than them and I mean the difference like you watch them go down and they're sort of doing a decent speed but I thought them being go- karters you know they've got their Senor frogs they race every year yeah I was like they're going to bomb it too yeah but they kind of just played it relatively safe I mean good time time but like I do think we we absolutely Center and we had this guy come up to us at the end like should you say yeah say and this guy comes up to us and go don't like freak out now or anything um but we're checking because we genuinely think this was one of the fastest of all time yeah like fastest soap boxes ever he thought we hit the world record run right there and then and they cuz they had to check them by the millisecond yeah and we were a fraction of a second off being the fastest ever 1 18 of a second something something ridiculous like that and uh so I think we were either the second or the third fastest of all time yeah there were rumors at the end of the day and I don't know whether it was Chip just winding us up being like the last car of the day was slightly faster yeah they they yeah they said something like the last car of the day actually broke the world record so if that is true we're the third fastest of all time if not we are the second fastest of all time to go down that track and we rather the second of the first fastest of this year's event which is just just the coolest thing ever like we to be fair have also like we couldn't have picked a design that was Better Built For Speed I mean it's so people were saying this is this is aerodynamic and I was thinking it is but I don't think it's going to make that much of a difference in this yeah scenario and whether it did or not or whether it was just the fact that you didn't break much yeah I think that was it it was quite heavy it was heavy as well you had one of the heavy ones so at the start you can tell this was one of the things we were saying we should have got two people cuz we only got Jake to shove us at the start yeah and when when you start off just going down the ramp it took us a while to pick up speed if we had sort of been shoved and started at a really good pace and kept it at that pace I genely think we could have built the record but I'm I want to do it again same that's why I wanted to keep that cuz we could have just modified that and send it down we know that's a winning formula yeah make it into a submarine or something yeah exactly that thing works but Red Bull like they they we had such a great time with them they did so much for us and we were so grateful and we were speaking see nothing guaranteed and stuff um but they were saying there's a potential for us to come back and maybe do the one that you know you launch off a ramp and you're like 10 m up whatever and you've got to Glide over water as far as possible there and there are loads of other sort of like cool Red Bull events and stuff to do so um yeah I think we make this a thing if we can do just more of this stuff yeah I loved it it was genuinely one of the best things I've ever done I think yeah and there's a the the the only annoying thing is there's so much footage it's going to take a while to get the video together because Red Bull have Clips we have clips they've sent us a hard driver clipse I've got stuff on my phone B has stuff on his phone Jake has stuff on his phone so we'll gather it all together but when the video comes out I think it'll be such a good one because so good the whole experience was just the coolest thing ever and we couldn't be more grateful to Red Bull for that the perfect run at the end we just ended it so perfectly the whole experience I think yeah it couldn't have gone better afterwards I so cool yeah I couldn't get the helmet off though we got to the very end I could not figure out how to unclip the helmet so I did the interview with a helmet on yeah they could not hear thing as well you hear me go oh the atmosphere was electric and I know he said the electric thing and then we um yeah we Kenny from South Park hanging out with us we to I finally I got someone to take my helmet off we drove the soap box down to the graveyard thing but they said they weren't going to break it we put it to one side it might be broken and then we had to run up the hill because we had to get on the live stream to do an interview straight afterwards yeah and oh my God you realize how far we came down Running Up That thing that it was 400 to 500 M back up a relatively Steep Hill on a very hot day we were exhausted from the day before and uh being out the night before and having the race and all that kind of stuff and in boiler suits and it was a hot day boiling I got so sweaty at the top we got to the top and we were like that was just a thoroughly unenjoyable experience but it was cool cuz there I heard I don't I think I told you at the time I heard a kid as we ran past he was like oh my God racers felt like an F1 driver in that moment yeah that really went straight to my head yeah I bet we felt a lot cooler than we probably looked just running around in boiler suits and I'm my Red Bull cap on we had shades on surprised he hasn't got that red bull cap on today by the way that thing you're going to have to peel that off his dead body I've been wearing it so much lady just cuz I I love it it's good for green screen stuff that is the one thing I I might start wearing cuts out the wispy hair yeah it cuts out the wispy hair which kind of ruin the illusion I've got that real issue whereas when you wear a cap it's like a smooth round thing and the green screen just looks much better I see my editors have all been like wear a cap as often as possible oh so they even so they tell you what to do huh you're not Char they do interesting well I keep my editors locked away and then I give them footage and they're like please I want to see my family please share an editor now no King yeah we do shout out king great honestly fantastic worker his work ethic he sent me a video and like couple hours later he was like actually here's a V2 I watched it back and I I could see some improvements I was like kind of mentality and he's not been editing for long either yeah so he's I think all selft talk cow's amazing as well they're both just great honestly yeah people listening a fascinated here about how much we love our tives yeah let's get back to the Red Bull so box race so then we did our interview at the very top which is when cuz we went down first so we were Then followed by all the other creators who did the race um we didn't really get to see them at the time cuz we were running up the the bloody Hill but um we got to the top they all slowly joined us did their interview and then it got revealed the scores so there were different categories we were like ranked on or scored on the first being performance and I I'm pretty sure the style of the cart comes into that as well yeah and so we what did we get like what was it 20 22 it was really bad 40 terrible score we got like a seven a six a three and a five something like that whoever gave us a three what's wrong with you huh they were grumpy though cuz I think chip and frezy got something like 39 and the guy that person gave them a nine apparently they were really mean scoring the whole time that's crazy but chip and fzy knew about the performance thing which we I know how they knew about that we had no idea chip and freezy raced as a box of 20 chicken McNuggets yeah and they brought like homemade barbecue sauce and just on each other yeah pry just poured it all over them it was good like as performances go that's like the best thing you can do yeah so they got a really great score like almost perfect just one guy dropped a mark on it um 39 out 40 but I feel like I feel like giving us a three was really harsh I know our performance wasn't great but the music was very fitting yeah and maybe we should have pretended we were on the moon with our jumping or something like walking like that he just had such a cool carard we had so little time to think about it yeah I feel like it was harsh though look at our car that was really cool yeah maybe we were also ranked harshly because we were the first creators to go down maybe maybe we would have got a better score if we were towards the end I don't know yeah maybe but um yeah we did really bad on that and then you get obviously score for your speed in finishing the race yeah which we smashed Everyone by like four four seconds or something or seven or eight yeah like seven or eight seconds Quicks first to second and the second fastest and I think Becky and pieace got a dnf finish either they hit a minute or they stopped completely yeah cuz they went over one of the jumps and then front end broke so the wheel wasn't really like or the front was touching the floor dragging across the floor so they just I felt bad for them they just ped all across but at least they got down in one piece that's the they were just in a pint glass yeah it was really cool and they had a they had a cool performance Becky poured pint on um pie which was funny um con and Jack had a cool performance they just had some Swagger about it like yeah it was cool oh yeah we got picked on the performance but they did struggle getting into the vehicle did they yeah CU it's really hard and narrow to get in um they got they everyone got all the way to the end by the way Colin Jack fell over at the end there thing just went on its side they they chose thinner Wheels I didn't think they were going to make it that far yeah they also had a really high center of gravity cuz their car was thin and quite tall yeah like if you looked at their car it looked like it wanted to fall over it was a bit like chitty chitty bang bang but like elongated yeah so they did really well to and they were drifting it as well it was drifting so they did really well to get to the bottom um but yeah we were like seven seconds quicker than seven or eight seconds quicker than the second fastest which was it chip and freezy or was it Con I think it might have been no chip and frezy was Heavy wasn't it to be fair so that would move um and then there was People's Choice which we said we won 49% and was those were those those three so I think the reason so we ended up coming third we came third out of the four I just think it wasn't like cuz we won two out of three categories you'd think we'd win but I think they gave they were sort of like weighted yeah so because we were so low on the performance us being ahead on the other two bits didn't pull us up enough I think it's really harsh I think it doesn't matter at all by the way I don't I don't care but I do think it's harsh that performance is weighted so heavily in comparison to like speed has got to be the most important thing yeah like it's a race I know that's that's the way we were looking at it that's because it's a race come on we were focus on the race as aspect obviously soap boxes isn't Formula 1 is supposed to be like a bit of fun cretive stuff which you do get um but yeah hard winning two out of three categories and winning the race comfortably well it was more like at in the moment when they were revealing who won out of us four I was thinking in my head oh we've definitely won yeah after winning we got like 50% of the votes for People's Choice so it was a landslide Victory they said and a landslide Victory on the speed so I was thinking we have smashed those two things so surely we've gained loads of points for that yeah and we came third I was like I'm actually quite shocked by that I in my head I was thinking oh my God we've won yeah but um no it was so means anything like there's I don't there's nothing for it yeah I was just surprised but genuinely so it was so good yeah it was it was definitely definitely one of the best things I've ever done I was so glad that we did it I can't wait for the proper video to come out and have it all like a documentary s of documented archive just being like Oh I can look back at that video that was a banger yeah oh it was it was really good um then we stuck around and watched some public racing um and yeah there was it was it was nice there was a nice like area where you could get food and stuff and the worms showed up oh yeah lots of the patreon supporters a couple of N and non patreon people showed up lots of podcast people I'm guessing everyone there was podcast listeners because I didn't really put it on any platform no I think it it was all podcast we spoken about on the on on the podcast and in the patreon group chat quite a lot yeah and that was pretty much it so thank you well regardless if it's yeah thank you guys for coming along cuz it was so nice speaking to everyone great really great to have your support um yeah and yeah you guys were there for most of the day just like stood by our um what do you call it Soap Box stood by our Soap Box we were coming over when we could to say hi and stuff yeah everyone got photos we oh my goodness quite a lot of people wanted us to draw tattoos for them oh dear and we are not artistic no we're close yeah I'm a letter away but I not draw sa in my life and I was like the only thing I could think of was the rocket emoji yeah that was pretty good to be fair I was trying to draw them but getting the three little things at the bottom and the fire I was like I was like show this to your artist and they'll get what I'm trying to draw yeah they'll understand I mean I just ended up drawing flowers CU it's the easiest thing to draw it's got nothing to do with me a lot of art what just happened you just got bored of your own conversation I just yawned I was hoping you take it off me really quickly cuz I yawned no someone asked for a cameo once where they were like can you draw something for us to do a tattoo and I did a a ringed planet oh nice and oh my goodness trying to get cuz obviously if you put the circle there first the ring that goes in front like cuts through lines and it looks crap so you've kind of got to start with the ring but obviously just as the ring curves back around you have to stop and then you have to imagine where the sphere is going to be and oh my goodness I burnt through about half this notebook trying to get one that just looks semi-reasonable so whoever invented Saturn fair enough yeah exactly that must have been difficult and Uranus yep that's also ringed yeah um many too many rings yeah I've got a ring do you oh yeah and that weekend batch proposed to me so I said yes no I'm talking about my ass what anyway um it was it was a different kind of proposition to the one you were thinking of yours is way cuter than mine and I said no oh hell no I just got that that's disgusting cuz I was like on Saturday night we were just chilling we were like go we're exhausted yeah and I was like do you want to just stay around and Bach was like yeah so we played fornite and watch scary movies yeah he took me to get sushi again yeah we went to sticks and Sushi again but I was like I kind of want to make more videos but we were just so tired yeah I it was too late you just what you made me watch horror stuff we we watched a bunch of scary videos on YouTube like real ghost sightings and short horror movies and I was like I've wanted to do videos like that with you ages I was like then was the perfect time but our energy was just shock yeah we'll do it we'll definitely do it another time though CU people just love that love that horror game yeah is entertaining to watch other people get scared people don't want to watch you have fun they want to watch you cringe and be scared people enjoyed us having fun of Minecraft true but you were scared of I died like five six times I'm not very good clearly everyone's making fun of me did I die once I didn't I don't think no but your spirit died at one point hell no my spirit my spirit was always my spirit were through the roof um when I was getting attacked by Leona Lewis and I was hiding in the house turns out Leona Lewis can't go in water so I should have just gone in water I saw that comment yeah thanks for that thanks for the comment I'm actually going to use that logic and I I already want to film episode three right now do you yeah it was so fun we'll do it this week actually it's so fun like I enjoy playing it we're just loading up M fil although he needs a he needs a setup can we can we tell this boy to put some money towards a proper setup he plays on his PlayStation so we have to play Bedrock Edition so I can't use my nice shaders that make the waters and everything look clean and all the like graphics and stuff you know the like it's T's water we're keeping it the graphics upgrades are insane look just just a bit enjoy a humble bit of like Minecraft where it's nostalgic not everything has to be polished yeah okay fine um but no it was it was really good fun and it is it is I do love that we can just do that kind of stuff and just play a game and it would be fun yeah um we can just like high five when we want yeah anyway um back to let's go back in time to um the end of the race he wet himself no he didn't he didn't no he didn't but um I just want to make sure that we covered everything no because we didn't speak about um the stunt the stunts oh yeah you should tell them about the stunt they they just flung on you they didn't tell you until yeah they didn't tell me about this before and they made me sign my rights away yeah and it it was they had already Ked off the live stream so you just had to do it yeah um we basically batch got nice one he got pulled aside and they were like oh is the driver we're testing your reflexes yeah and what did they do they so she dropped a ruler and you just had to grab the ruler um as soon as she dropped it and just see how many centimeters you let drop to judge your reaction time I didn't do I think I came second actually nice but on the practice I failed uh so I was like oh that was nice and peaceful and fun I wonder what mine's going to be and they get me and they they I put this heart monitor on and I was like what they put this heart monitor on me put me in the middle of this cage and this dude called like Douglas or something comes up in this massive dirt bike and just goes like I'll lie down in the middle and I was like I know exactly where this is going got R to me and Jack just start planking and he's sort of in this giant he giant of a man I swear he's like 6'4 in this massive dirt bike and he's sort of there like on one wheel bouncing the like wheel like an inch from my head and I'm like if he just if anything misjudges he crushes my skull yeah like we we we lose one of the Bright Young talents of this generation and you as well wait what do you mean well they'd get Jack and you oh yeah yeah good old Jack and then then he was doing like wheelies around your head like just driving past full speed past his head yeah it was giving me the E actually see lie down there insane and I was just like well I'm playing it cool cuz that's like the name of the game it'd be cringe if I got up and I mean they they even said that if you get up you're at risk of just getting your head whacked cuz he's like an inch within your head so if you move it until you die yeah um and for like a minute he just did this and bounced around and yeah you were down there for a hot minute yeah we were there for ages just getting driven around I thought oh this is just getting this is just cruel now yeah I mean the poor boy is just lying there with a boner by the way uh because he gets that happens when he gets scared just why you think I keep getting you for horror games oh no i h on a Bo so he's just doing circling circling circling around Arthur on the floor it just I just felt a bit sorry for him in the end yeah uh so that was terrifying but good F night you know I'm up for anything I did realized the other day I'm just one of his friends who's just up for thing yeah you are actually someone could be like hey we're going to sit inside and watch movies tonight I be like fine or they can be like come on man we're robbing a bank I'm like cool they'll be like come on going glamping for the weekend do you is that real though if I said or okay let's go and watch the Euros tonight fine let's do it England England this is the last night of the group stage and all of a sudden the mood is really dead because we're just through now we've not played well either it's been pathetic there I said it and Harry Kane when you finally come on this podcast I've got some strong words to have with you mine mine Reserve is Gareth Southgate and not bringing BR and not playing kobby Mayu okay sorry Harry Kane actually way he's playing phenomenally to be not as if we're missing him but I'm mad at you Southgate yeah Italy um not playing too bad oh my goodness you're Italian did you watch the game last night and they scored the 90th plus eight to go through 98th minute it was the draw against Croatia oh that was heartbreaking poor the thing is they probably would have gone through anyway as one of the people third but um it's nice to confirm it you know yeah those moments of elation just so hard I think Italy just like a decent Striker anyway we won't bore you with football because a lot of people probably don't care about football yeah um but yeah I mean I'm getting into F1 now yes you are you watch drive to survive right yeah I've been watching drive to surv I need to get on that I really want to watch that um and hence why the Red Bull so box race I was really in I was really in my element Because You Loved does it make you love Red Bull as well the driver to survive does it follow a particular team it follows the mall and to be honest I haven't really got like a team I really um it's not like I really want to see this team win it's more people that you care about it's good to see Red Bull doing well but um I like Lando do you yeah you're Lando Norris enjoyer I'm a Lando enjoyer I like them all to be fair from what I've seen I like I get I like Char all oh cuz he kind he kind of looks like Charles mclair uh yeah I get uh Lando Norris a lot people always say like L nor I'm not sure about that boy and uh obviously like V stappen red the Red Bull goat what batch V stappen high five what does that even mean batch for steppen me batch for steppen batch for steppen me instead of Max for Sten batch for Sten it's one of the only times that batch really goes into anything batch for Sten what do people nickname you at school get tuna boy cuz I've brought in tuna fish boy uh right I was going duckling I was going for more names like name related like okay because I was oh name related I was I was called nothing I was just called Arthur I don't know why I said it like that I was called Nothing me yeah had no friends at school no I didn't really people would say ice as a joke ice yeah I just I didn't like not having a cool nickname name my sister one of my sisters calls me Izzy that's really cringe and feminine yo she watches these which is fine yo she watches these apologize down the lens right now I apologize nothing cuz it is it was true it was my truly held opinion and you should never apologize for being yourself sometimes she calls me Elizabeth as well what and I don't really know where she got that from she started that was a good what what yeah she watches it where she works as she was working she'll have it on Gizzy by the way I didn't get cancelled for what Sunday came out where I waterboarded Chris I haven't watched that and I was seriously worried I was genuinely like I thought you know just some people on the internet can be real yeah cuz they might be like oh you're making fun of water boarding people actually die from water boarding that's not what I exactly what I meant oh because okay you can't waterboard Chris because he doesn't like water and some people have been drowned before no okay of course because because you shouldn't do water boarding because it's like saying this is something you should it's really on impressionable fans and they'll be like okay I'm going to water board my mom tonight right maybe maybe that was like oh you shouldn't do that on to an impression I'm going to cancel you right now in that case um but no I I I just thought people would be like oh that was so mean of him they're not friends like just you know when you don't really know I mean obviously anyone who's seen Chris and videos knows how much abuse he puts me through I mean that guy abuse shs down on my neck like there's no tomorrow he's just I I'll just be chilling mid shootting he'll just go on my traps I mean granted they're juicy like they're nice muscular defined um have you ever thought you might just be a vampire I don't know hiding in plain sight you know you've got two Pierce marks right there you getting sucked by you've got really garlicky breath so I don't think I could be a a vampire cuz otherwise let's not start rumors like that otherwise I'd run there's not start rumors like that yeah my breath smells like daisies rainbows fairy tales I'm always chewing gum you are always chewing gum you're a real gum chewer yeah it Bo it boosts your confidence it's like putting a pair of sunglasses on I'm glad you don't do it on the podcast that would be the most annoying thing to listen to I have done it before but I just tuck it into my teeth like snz you don't mean that it's gum you don't mean that it's gum it's just weird you don't mean that it's gum gum started freaking out you know we were speaking about eggs the other day when you you're Midway through eating heads and you're like wait up yeah that's a period something ain't right that's a menstrual cycle raor and you're like yeah well that weirdly makes me like it more it's more than I knew you were a feminist me too come on yeah um we do like to bring awareness to the fact that women exist and have Cycles cuz I I I mentioned menstrual cycles all the time and I in one of my YouTube videos I was like I've got to stop saying menstrual cycles drop a comment if you think I should stop saying menual cycle everyone's like no and someone's like no it actually feels kind of feminist in a weird way cuz you're bringing light to the fact of cuz not everyone knows that women have I think everyone knows women have periods I found out 3 days ago watching your video you thought they had penis what I just thought they merely existed they merely exist in a in a realm Between Heaven and Hell where somewhere I love doesn't exist what the hell is this guy talking about women only exist in heaven women are heaven on Earth in my opinion how does that song Go heaven heaven for what it's worth women are heaven on Earth women are heaven on Earth brother in Christ you don't know what you're talking about right now I feel like we're getting on to Serious brain rot have you got anything else this is a rare batch prepared actually been praying preparing a lot um all of the episodes lately we've actually yeah hence why the quality's increased um no you just you do stuff in a different way I like like reading and talking reading well next episode's prepared by by Arthur and we'll be filming this directly after this one yeah we're doing complet transparency cuz batch is way on holiday and I'm going to be honest because I'm not I've not brought a spare pair of clothes anyway yeah me neither I don't want to hear no comments like why is he wearing that shirt again well they should be comenting CU alth this on an episode before quite frankly Arthur is either can I just say by the way I predicted what you were going to be wearing on the Red Bull meal I said Arthur will turn up in Black corduroy shorts um and a cream beige top shirt either worn as an overshirt with a white t-shirt underneath or just a shirt that's exactly what you were that's true I mean I have two other pairs of shorts I had a black like pair that were like had textured but the waistband thing snapped hard to find a good pair of shorts and then I had a nice like cream beige pair yeah um but they were just like I don't know linen and just ended up being a bit too and take it from a guy a sleepover with him he doesn't take them off he showers in them he goes me to take them off he was like take them off take them off take them off and I was like leave me alone yeah I was like please wash please wash you were just misreading me I wasn't saying take them off I was like please wash please wash anyway I I got the um I went into the patreon chat o uh little plug if you want to join the patreon go ahead there's a chat you get early access to episodes they get uploaded all the time and Bullies me in it yeah I do speak in there a fair amount um and I said to them we're filming two pods today can you guys reply to this message with any questions you have about the Red Bull Soapbox race we're going to be doing a whole episode on it uh because I thought there might be you know they might want to know more information on how it was built or how we were feeling and stuff and we could just give us some insight to that we've just explained the day how cool it was blah blah blah but they want to know the BTS let's see how insightful their questions can be okay did you hurt your nose that's [ __ ] rude no I didn't that obviously pointed at you no I didn't to be fair I did we had said in an episode prior that there was no foam and we are going to smash our faces in they put foam in we had good helmets on but we didn't actually crash so yeah we didn't crash so although his coxic bone is in pain yeah my coxics I'm absolutely fine because I'm not weak that's your tailbone um may ask for us highly evolved Apes that was from Brooke by the way I'll say names shout outs May says how SL why did you decide to build a rocket why I guess cuz it's very on brand for us have a look at our mugs yep yeah I mean we're just we're were're a Spacey themed podcast for no apparent reason we genely I'm sure we said in the earlier episodes we had no plans to be themed and bats just randomly one day went let's just make it space themed I just think it's cool yeah me I just think we both think it's cool we do we just need a cool set I think most of the things we do is because we think oh that's cool like the Soap Box we thought oh it'd be cool if we did a a ship or a ufi yeah just cuz it just cuz it's funny someone actually messaged in for the next one I've got like the submissions from the normal submissions page which everyone can enter just go to our any of our socials at Bach and arur and in the link there's like a a link tree and one of them is the submissions form and they were like what is your target audience because I can't really figure it out and I'm studying media at the moment target audience is such a big thing and I was like we don't have one we just come on talk about whatever we find interesting yeah and just hope that some people agree yeah and the people who do listen are actually very um diverse yeah and intelligent and cool and good looking and all this yeah um so yeah no um yeah and it's weird because we're not sitting there going oh let's talk about this to appeal to this audience which I think is I mean somehow it works so thank you guys for tuning into thanks cuz I think if you analyzed it in like a media class and it was like oh one minute you're doing brain rot meme references and the next you're talking about s men and then the next we're talking about Greek philosophy and the next one like Roman Parables and then religion they'd be like well someone's going to listen to the one episode like it and then not like the rest yeah but for some reason people just like listening to it all really I think we just decided that we're just going to do what we want like yeah whatever we enjoy yeah like whatever we enjoy and whatever we F feel like talking about we're just going to do it because if you want to enjoy something you've like if you want this if we want this podcast to continue we've got to enjoy it and if we're looking at it tactically like Oh Let's do an episode on this so we can boost our audience in this demographic it will start to feel like a like a real job well like you know I've heard from other people that do podcasts that their producers will be like today you're having this guest on and they're like well I've never watched the show they're on or Never follow them don't care about the story but I've got to do it's nice that we kind of have a just able to just go oh whatever and I do think the stuff we talk about is interesting broadly like if you're someone who like whenever we meet or speak to anyone who watches the podcast they're always like oh I love like these types of interesting discussions I feel like if you have a generally curious mind yeah like if if people who are listening to this and enjoy it are going to be similar to us in that respect and they you know even if they don't have a an interest in any of the particular like they might be like oh I love hearing about religion I'm a curious person but they don't care about Greek philosophy yeah or anything when we speak about the ship of thesis they're still like oh it's an interesting thought like it's an interesting thought so if you're one of those types of people like us then all that kind of stuff is interesting I guess thus our our demographic is people who just have similar interests to us yeah or like have a similar outlook on life or yeah that's the thing it's not even like it's just it's the broad value of curiosity I think who just like they like to laugh they like a bit of Comedy cuz we even get people who disagree with us and they're like oh I'm religious I completely disagree with this all but it was so interesting to listen to and so they're not listening because we're speaking about things that they find um they agree with or they enjoy you know but they're going like oh like I like the way these topics are approached or the way this is discussed and yeah so yeah hopefully we'll try and keep that up um hey no way we're going to brain Rock 24/7 after here or no anyway um Connie asked what was your top speed we don't actually know but what did you think it was 30 well when we passed we passed the speed gate at what will be one of the fastest points and that was 30 okay mil K yeah km pH um Leia says do you think you were going to make it to the Finish Line did you think you were going to make it to the Finish Line I genuinely um did not think we were going to make it past the chicane to be honest yeah cuz I didn't realize the course was as wide as it was however the as narrow as it was you mean actually yeah yes and no the thing is it's like driving a car when you're in a car it looks like you're you're bigger than the road but actually you can fit in much smaller of a gap than you expect yourself to be able to and so when you're actually in the soap box when we were doing the chicane in my head I thought we're going to catch one of the hay bals and go flying but actually although it was actually pretty close watching it back it felt like I had enough room to get round and stuff well two hay bals we did fully slic through well yeah if the wings were like flat fronted we would have we could have just spun out flown but because the wings were just like yeah we the first one and then the second one we through that yeah um but in no I didn't think we were going to make it down in one piece to be honest I thought either we'd get to the end and there' be damage or we'd fall over at the end or we just wouldn't make it to the end cuz it's not a like it more often than not you don't make it to the end yeah so I thought statistically I didn't I didn't think we were going to make it to the end so I was surprised were you or not it's so funny because at the start you're like I really don't know but be when you're going down it's so fast and you've got to think a lot like yeah I was just constantly thinking like just monitoring whether we were going too fast or not to be like bring the speed down ever so slightly and it's everything's happening so fast you don't have time to think oh are we going to make it like any hypotheticals it's just uh pull the break break on break off break off oh my goodness are we going to make this corner are we going to too fast at how are we doing like all this kind of stuff's rushing through your head I didn't even think about it I was no so yeah I had no thoughts in my head either I think we were just on reflex at that point yeah because every yeah like Arthur said everything's coming at you so quick like before the chane I thought I had enough time to put my hand up and wave and I was like [ __ ] no I don't yeah so that's when I came back onto the wheel and did that so we really don't have much time in that thing um then Phoenix asks what was the hardest and easiest part of the creative process oh hard po was coming up with an idea for what we wanted to do as the car because we took ages like they were asking us for the design for so long and we were like we really don't know it is hard when you can do literally anything it's like the classic situation where you've got too much Choice yeah so you can't make a decision and neither necessarily creative creative types yeah so we and also it's it's difficult as well when there's two people because obviously if one person wants to do something we we agreed yeah we we didn't have any friction on what we wanted to do we because we both didn't really have an idea but you've got to make sure that what one person comes up with the other person's happy to do um but I think from the go we just suggested either a space shuttle or UFO we were both happy with those two ideas and then we had a look at some pictures and we thought okay let's go for a space sh that was it yeah so I think that um it was hard in the beginning but to to be honest the decision process was pretty easy for us in the end I do think the hardest part although that was hard I think what was harder for us was probably um building the chassis don't you think it was harder than the woodwork yeah that's probably true cuz we didn't have any engineer assistance with the underly car yeah the actual chassis itself we just had bits like we didn't have instructions for half of it we were in in a big Warehouse with just a bunch of nuts bolts rods	sightings and short horror movies and I was like I've wanted to do videos like that with you ages I was like then was the perfect time but our energy was just shock yeah we'll do it we'll definitely do it another time though CU people just love that love that horror game yeah is entertaining to watch other people get scared people don't want to watch you have fun they want to watch you cringe and be scared people enjoyed us having fun of Minecraft true but you were scared of I died like five six times I'm not very good clearly everyone's making fun of me did I die once I didn't I don't think no but your spirit died at one point hell no my spirit my spirit was always my spirit were through the roof um when I was getting attacked by Leona Lewis and I was hiding in the house turns out Leona Lewis can't go in water so I should have just gone in water I saw that comment yeah thanks for that thanks for the comment I'm actually going to use that logic and I I already want to film episode three right now do you yeah it was so fun we'll do it this week actually it's so fun like I enjoy playing it we're just loading up M fil although he needs a he needs a setup can we can we tell this boy to put some money towards a proper	8	6	4	sightings and short horror movies and I was like I've wanted to do videos like that with you ages I was like then was the perfect time but our energy was just shock yeah we'll do it we'll definitely do it another time though	CU people just love that love that horror game yeah is entertaining to watch other people get scared people don't want to watch you have fun they want to watch you cringe and be scared people enjoyed us having fun of Minecraft true but you were scared of I died like five six times I'm not very good clearly	8,5,6	6,4,3	8	5	6	6	4	3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0g_xJvKEb8	4,108	-0g_xJvKEb8	2024-06-27 00:00:00	[Music] what's up everybody welcome back to episode 14 of the batch and Arthur podcast yay go thanks for joining everyone we have something to reveal yes we do I know you guys don't like it when Arthur has his mug on the couch because he tends to drop things don't you never dropped anything actually okay you dropped that th done remember that well you might have noticed I also have my mug on the sofa mhm wondering why who wants to know why should we tell them something to do with one like equals one Lara maybe something to do with that exactly you guys ready see what you reveal go way for audio listeners we have white mugs with our little cartoon characters on them that's right little will I didn't want to Cheers you and I've got my little handsome space guy come on yeah Lara surprised us with these this is a gift um mine shatterproof as well apparently oh it's not sh yeah he's got a plastic mug because we know what he's like I've sippy C the audio listeners actually little rubber cppy cup with two handles well actually when Arthur drinks from a mug show them how you do it I'll I'll commentate for this he uses two hands so he grabs on the like handle and then he grabs the other hand I drink everything with two hands especially tea and Pints yeah I don't really know what is there a reason for that or not safety I guess twice as balanced is that really if one arm stops working the other one's there as a fail safe well there you go that's why he does it guys so it makes sense all after all yeah um speaking of batch and Arthur this podcast design right here yeah this has been plasted on something recently what our rocket ship oh yeah guys we just got back from the Red Bull Soap Box race and we're alive 2024 we genuinely were not sure we were going to survive no I was but we did really scared we we turned up we got to see other people's cards um and there was basically two things going on so there's like a public race and then the Creator race was like a separate thing which is streamed on YouTube If you go on Red Bull's um YouTube channel and you go on under the live tab you can actually watch the full thing yeah we were like a half time race yeah it was Bas half time show yeah there was a few people who weren't happy about the Creator's uh racing cuz they thought we were mixed in with the public but it's like a whole separate thing like we can't win any awards over the public or anything like that yeah um but but we won the hearts of the public come on yeah we did win the hearts of the public there was a a couple of things that you were like rated on as creators and one of them was People's Choice and we got a landslide victory of 44% yeah it actually ended up on 49% 50% out of four teams we got 49 everyone rounds 49 thank you to everyone who voted for us we one of four teams but we're up against chip and freezy who have a big loving audience Becky and pieace who audience and then con from the siden huge loving audience and the guy who's our cameraman on the train video the siden that's right Jack was there as well went to with con they had cool out but uh we we got to Ali p uh that's my first time there you've been there before actually I think we should start the day before okay let's let's reel that [ __ ] back because we had another sleepover kind of yeah we did have another let's just say oh no we didn't really a hotel yeah we did not have a sleepover but what did we do where did we first meet we we met at the we met at the hotel at the hotel dropped our bags off Adam was there he's the Red Bull guy that was been looking after us and he took all the creators out to dinner yeah we to find the tell first yeah chopped a pint um both hands come on yeah then we got in a taxi we went to dinner we had a create a dinner um what did you eat pizza yeah I had a really really hot hot pizza but the thing I was enjoying the most was the football we had a massive screen in front of us oh yeah cuz France were playing Netherlands NE scen I felt kind of harsh cuz the the table was positioned in a way that only half of us could see the football and the other half were just watching us watching football yeah but no he they were watching a react video basically they got to see us live reacting In the Flesh um but the meal was really good the food was really good uh Jake was struggling Jake the guy works with um Arthur they both got the same Pizza he was struggling with the heat yeah he was [ __ ] [ __ ] struggling with the Pint as well got two pints steep was steaming no cuz he was so in denial Jake yeah Jake had a couple pints and he was gone we were like you are drunk he like I am not drunk and he was getting angry mad I'm not even drunk he's I haven't even done anything later he's doing karaoke so that's belting out karaoke with his phone to the to the mic with with voice note on my God it's so that was you singing those Tunes to someone yeah we yeah CU you've been to a place before should we say the name of the place or not I actually I don't remember it anyway okay we went to this place anyway Arthur's been there before it's um like a karaoke bar with uh like an arcade and bowling and there's a dance floor and like a bar and stuff like that yeah very good fun we all went there did some karaoke went there for Arthur Hill's birthday that's how I found out about it what a place it is a cool place actually um yeah did a bit of karaoke we were in there for a couple hours doing karaoke in the end yeah um belting at tunes by the way batch can sing No Arthur can sing yeah but I think people would assume that from but that goes without saying no but but Frank Sinatra came on and oh my goodness batch was just cooking that thing anyone can sing Frank arra welcome back Frank Sinatra he died and this is him reborn wasn't wasn't he heavily involved with the mafia Frank Sinatra so are you you're a quter Italian that's true but I can't admit that no not legally anyway oops they're going to come and get me try and come and get me watch me beat beat you all up actually I shouldn't say what if they do don't come and get me please I was just kidding I've got nothing to do with him he lives on 32 Italian back street oh my god that actually is my house number H what don't say that it's not that's my apartment number as well no we you're not finding out where we live um I'm going to move in with Arthur anyway we moved in together on Minecraft yeah sort of anyway back to karaoke we had fun at karaoke then we went home we didn't get back till 3:00 a.m. silly move because we had to be up early yeah we had it well not that early we had 10: a.m. taxi picks up yeah but we met at breakfast at 9:30 it was the most romantic breakfast of my life yeah um and then stayed at the Hilton Red Bull of class they put us in there they also like what a lovely experience not only did they take us to dinner they they paid for karaoke and everything like that they covered everything shout out to Red Ball I'm going to crack One open right now and they're actually delicious all these colored red balls my actual favorite is the summer edition you guys should actually try this this is not sponsored but I'm just saying this is not even the first thing I I did I went to salburg in Austria and did some Red Bull salburg video shooting with Chris MD um we did like penal sh outs in games with mads bistrup for their YouTube channel and then did a video in it was the the final one of christed uh every time you beat a Defender the defender gets upgraded that's right yeah and we start off with like Harry R Shaw as the worst Defender when all the way up to Champions League mads bistr who fantastic player I mean yeah you realize how like when you watch t uh football on TV you think oh I could do that yeah but then if you see a actual Pro in real life yeah like that makes sense why you went pro now actually we need to do more charity so that was fun that was fun there are a lot going on it's just timings cuz there's so many things going on during summer and that's usually when charity matches go down yeah but you got to work in the schedules either you're away or I'm away or there's a brand trip or something has to be submitted in time was crazy yeah but um no I'm sure we're going to do a lot more stuff with Red Bull as well so that's exciting um but anyway we then got the taxi to Alex Alexandra Palace Ali pal come on and um I've only just realized that's why it's Ali P really yeah I just thought that Ali P was the hill and Alexandre Palace was no way Ali now I've just heard it okay that's Ali P right anyway U you almost did a off the TV intro that right right so then we uh we got into the race so no we got into the Zone where the race was going on yeah and we got to have a little scout out all the public submitted soap boxes some really cool stuff in there yeah although there was one weird one because we rock up and there are like four girls gathered around water is essentially a double bed one girl just tucked up and you back like oh this is cool and she was like yeah it's really cozy get in we were like no I I ain't doing all that I'm sure though that you know that wasn't actually her like lying in it yeah I know you could tell something was weird under the covers but I was not getting involved what what what the hell um oh you can't see my soundboard I've got to pull this back so I can soundboard here yeah he hasn't got a soundboard yet thank goodness although I should no they all see the comments by the way Lara and Arthur see the comments and Lara even said into the group chat she was like I think we need to get bat of soundboard because of all the comments she sent me a message being like listen we've got one purchase a year we can authorize either we get cool mugs or batch gets a soundboard and I was like mugs mugs oh hell no I just think it's so much funnier when you do it yourself and go to I do think so but this is going to get worn down and eventually there's going to be a Hole uh oh audio listeners don't know what I'm doing I I just I pretend there's a soundboard and I just push the sof and make my I do it as well I do it in real life I'll be speaking to people when I'm BR but it doesn't make his much sense in real life just in a conversation he's just air poking stuff as he goes brh you know what's so funny as well I showed batch this someone one of you guys one of our listeners because cuz I you do it quite a lot but I do it all the time at you do the what yeah what that thing someone did a Tik Tok called whatting people in public so she goes into this petrol station goes to pay she goes like how much is that and he goes like Oh 1350 and she just goes what loud so loud just yells it in this man's face and everyone was like bad bad you guys have to recreate this it was so funny yeah and then Arthur was like we've got to do this we've got I don't know if I have the like what is it um social confidence to do that I'd be able to do it not yell it I thought it was a bit rude though the loud yelling not in a bad I'm not criticizing you I just able to do that like that myself I'd be like what I think sorry you got no no soup of the day what what when you have a camera on you though that you get a new found confidence in public like I found no no no in general I don't know if you agree with this in like a sidan video I Feel Like rules don't apply like social rules then don't apply cuz you've got a camer on you and you can do what you want whatever you want yeah I've only recently started being able to finally find it within myself to Vlog like when we were at wagas I was like this is actually fine yeah whereas before IID look at people vlogging in public and I go I admire you a lot cuz I can never do that it helps having people around you yeah although I feel like we do it with our phones it's a bit easier that's true whereas if people with their cameras out like facing their way I'm like oh my goodness I'd be so embarrassed yeah I think I would be as well especially if you got like a big rig on the end of that thing people are just admiring you your rig yeah both of them come on anyway um what speaking of the soap boxes that we saw um there was this one there was like these four guys like lying down chilling and they had this like Dome oh yeah which was kind of like a I guess like a spa you know the space shuttles that come down to earth it kind of looked a bit like that didn't yeah um like a landing module yeah like a landing module and they what did what did they make it off fiberglass or something yeah oh my God you could smell it from where we were still and they were like stick your head in that so we stuck it you stuck your head in first took a whiff and I did it afterwards oh my God dizzying genuinely dizzying I'm high I'm still high from that moment if anyone's ever been in like a a surfboard shop where they like make the surfboards yeah it smells like that it just smell exactly like that and they bizarre I just burped on I thought that was what that was that was disgusting hopefully that didn't get picked up apologize sorry guys sorry if you heard that cut that out anyway um it's not getting cut uh it they had to spend the whole run down in that thing so I think those guys are a little bit waved yeah I'm glad we I'm glad we were just a team of two and had two seats because I kind of felt bad some people that pushed the Soap Box thing down yeah like running after it for like 50 meters and it was a hot day that's true like um most people was like a team of four and two would push two would be in it I think that's standard isn't it to have two people in the so box and then a team that will push and Chase it down probably chase down chip and freezies yeah funny it was funny as well the way he was running because I guess it was like a it was like Looney Tunes the way he had his arms up like that chasing them down to be fair there are people I felt more bad for he talking about some of the injuries of the day oh my God and this is the thing like good gosh man we were already nervous then we were then we got to S see our um vehicle which they had made some mods to by the way so put me at ease a little bit they put foam in the place where my head would smash oh yeah so I felt about that yeah um they didn't they were going to cut out the wheel arches so we could turn more but they didn't I'm glad they I actually think that worked in our favor in it did um and they were actually slagging it off when it went up on towards stage they were speaking about it on Mike and they were like they can't turn properly they can't see over it and I was thinking oh no they're slagging off our thing they were talking about our buckets on the back and stuff I don't know if they were slagging off the buckets or just speaking about I just heard bucket like they're talking about ours oh my god um but it actually worked in favor and then there was screens up showing the first runs and it took a while it like an hour or two after we got there till the first run um but did you see the Sheep one no I didn't see any of the big ones but that's a bad one there was a sheep we I was watching a sheep go down um it was just before you did your stunt I think and it got all the way to the end and then at full speed flipped over onto their necks and I think it was one of them that broke their collarbone and it looked awful and after seeing that me and pieace was stood together we were like I we genuinely don't want to go down after seeing that he was [ __ ] it I was [ __ ] it um and then not only that I think other people must have like been bruised or whatever but the other big one that we heard about is we when we got to the start line we were there waiting for like 10 minutes and it was cuz the person who went down before us got knocked out so that's crazy yeah which I didn't see I don't think we'll ever see any footage of that but I don't know what vehicle it was or anything I just heard that they got knocked out that's why we were up there for ages yeah I mean it was going down insanely fast yeah it look I mean it looks quick on camera but it doesn't look nearly as quick as it feels yeah when you're in that thing oh my goodness and you can barely see in front of you you're bouncing all over the place you're hitting these jumps there are bits where there's foam that like splashes you in the face you have a few seconds of blindness yeah it's mental it it to best describe it definitely feels faster than sitting in a car at 60 MPH I'd say faster than it feels sitting in a car going 100 yeah cuz you're so exposed to we've never gone 100 I've been on the auto bar in Germany okay fair um but yeah you're exposed so it just feels so quick but we were quick insanely Qui insanely quick I think everyone we were the first of the creators to go up everyone thought we were going to just crash yeah or just be crap and slow there was so many comments so many DMs I got afterward was like [ __ ] fair enough before we even went down though before we get cuz we we will react we'll show you us going down yeah but I think we should tell them actually maybe should we hit play and then we'll pause at certain bits to be like explainer yeah I'll tell you what it plays it goes all the way through and then they do it in slow-mo afterwards we can on the slow-mo we'll do some explanation okay here we go batch and Arthur we had the podcast sticker oh it was such a good sticker on the side which was really cool and they zoomed in out loads for the YouTube video which is great yeah was all over the stream which was ideal although you cannot see podcast there until someone shads over it yeah someone's just shattering we were stood up there for ages genuinely yeah because someone had just been knocked out looking down this hill that was just so steep it's not funny but look at that thing that's so impressive it's so well built I can't believe it and I'm I'm gutted because I actually wanted to say to the we had a little bit of help from the Red Bull Engineers yeah I wanted to say thank you to them more just be like what did you see that that was really good yeah if anyone knows anything by any chance please pass on our thanks because yeah they they helped us hopefully they watched it and saw a great deal uh but we did do a lot I mean we did spend two full days building this thing and printing it up and stuff so yeah which you'll obviously see in the Vlog I'll talk about I'll talk about something later cuz there's um this was posted to Tik Tok and there's some funny comments on there really basically yeah basically calling us desk dwellers what so this is our performance so this performance we didn't know we no was supposed to do we we were told to choose a piece of music so we chose something like Space Odyssey style but we had no idea that meant we had to perform yeah and like like she's saying like there are points for performance and we knew about 10 minutes beforehand that this 30 second period of Music we'd have to Performance so we were like let's just do something simple gum shields in the mouth bow and get in and they were harsh they gave us a three but that also also counts to the way the vehicle looks so I think three is Harsh yeah but here we go performance score 22 poor but this is when we started racking up speed the steering was really weird as well cuz it changed as we got quicker and we were just bouncing as we went down like we'd hit a ramp and oh my goodness like almost front flipped that around we Whi around the corner and our our genuine one of our wings like clipped a ha Bell and just sliced through it that one sliced through the hay Bell I was thinking as we came down I swear I would have hit that side had I not hit that side and then nailed the braking and you said you could smell burnt rubber when you were breaking on that thing cuz I was like tickling the brakes like before a jump every now and then I do one all as we approached the chicane I pulled it yeah um but they said as we were going down in the commentary like yeah oh this feels fast usually you're hitting like low 20s here and it comes up on the side and we're hitting 30 km an hour yeah we were going and we were oh my goodness I'm glad you didn't break touch the break though we didn't need it yeah yeah I mean you did a did a little bit but I mean the others obviously touched it a lot more yeah I basically kept us at a speed where I was like this is very close to the line of like where we can make this corner at the speed because at the end of the day as a race and I was like we don't want to get up at the end and just be like oh like a couple of the soite boxes made it halfway down and just like stopped completely yeah and they were like having to like like I don't know like Shake It Forward it's so awkward like we did speak and we did say we'd actually rather crash going pretty quick than come to a grinding hle because it's just not good material yeah like we did it for Content wants to see that it's for a video we know representing creators at half time yeah so many people watching we've got a space shuttle that is designed at a velocity of 17,000 500 mph yeah so we were like you know hitting to be honest when they gave us those uh cuz we asked for special helmets that covered the face yeah when they gave me that I felt invincible and I thought oh [ __ ] it and we had gum Shields that we like ped poured into boiling water molded them before and molded them so we we felt pretty safe yeah I mean but still at 30 we weren but I don't have miles hour or kilm an hour I think it was mph I actually do really yeah but whatever it is at 30 like genuinely like just whacking your head against something solid is well I mean someone did get knocked out and broke it was terrifying yeah they they then do a slow-mo okay let's watch the slow-mo and we can break down exactly because I was thinking there was a point in the chicane when we really Whi round I was thinking why did that happen it was because the back right wheel wasn't on the ground when we were coming up to the chicane so when it touched the the ground it turned us into a corner so I was like [ __ ] and I had to spin it around one way and then back around the other way oh that's why we had that major wobble yeah and you can see it it's like it's cuz one of the wheels wasn't on the ground okay let's let's watch and like in the first one we'll try and go for the audio listeners kind of describe what we're seeing yeah so the first jump yeah we it was a heavy a heavy bit of Kit as well we definitely had one of the heavier ones it and it was like so we got through here the back that wheel wasn't on the ground so like had to correct it well the chicane of just having to go really quick left and then really quick right after yeah and then this pit we hit a bunch of stairs and bch basically grinds on the right hand of them it's cuz afterwards we had to be on the right hand side so I was thinking I can't turn directly after I'm going to have to turn on the ramp like the CL the the course is split in two with like steps on the left and straight on the right and we go down the steps but like half dangling off yeah you have a choice whether to do jumps or not obviously we were going to do the jumps cuz you get docked time um no they add time on if you go round cuz it's a bit unfair yeah but we you were just like let's head it yeah and after the first jump it it looks like we really jump around I don't know about you but in it it didn't feel that bad I I think I'm the exact opposite cuz I was going flying and my bum still Hur May was our positioning or cuz I was holding on to this when yeah I had nothing to hold on to I was just sat on a blue seat I re yeah I reckon that's what it was cuz it kept me like sort of planted you fix and you're in the center so with us like when when you go off the Jump the nose sort of goes down yeah it did and then the back col kicks up into the air and then slams down and because I'm at the back you really got you know I've got a lot further to fall and I just got whacked and my butt like when I sit on the sofa like no I can feel it bruised on I was actually un unscared I was absolutely fine yeah God it was um after that first jump though I got a lot more confidence in the run I was thinking oh that was fine I can we can do all the [ __ ] jumps yeah I just got full speed no I rate it I'm so glad you just sent it cuz and you I mean you didn't have a choice sending it yeah you just you na yeah exactly you could SL down but uh I they miked us did they mic you up CU they miked me up but I said nothing the whole run yeah why would you you couldn't because the thing is I was so focused I think it's because we went so quick because there's a Red Bull posted a video on their Tik Tok page where because they miked up chip and freezy and um it's off chip speaking to freezy and he's like on the brakes off the brakes okay we're going to go around this now and I think it's CU they were using the brakes and communicating about the brakes that they had stuff to say but because we were just you told me before you weren't going to touch the brake so I thought okay he's really not there's no point saying anything and you know whether it's a Brak or not so I was just thinking I'm just going to drive I was literally only thinking like I'm only going to slow us down if I feel like at this speed we either can't hit that jump properly or can't go around the corner and I was just tickling it and it was only at the end like I was like I've got to wait until we cross the finish line before I can break and I just Ram it and because it was a friction break it's like literally a metal bar that just pulls down onto both of the rear wheels it just starts smelling like burning rubber actually nailed that was so good though cuz we literally landed after that last jump we landed and I was like [ __ ] the Finish is right there and all I could hear was I just knew he pulled that thing so hard we came around the corner and didn't touch a single thing because he broke just in time yeah and the thing was untouched like the they said they it could get sent back to one of us so I send it to my house um I got I didn't tell you this yet I got a DM from someone saying I'm just about to watch your soap box get destroyed what no it's been graveyard we took it to a graveyard but we put it to one side no they told us we could have it uh yeah oh the guy might be lying I I pray he is cuz that's so harsh but I saw it in the DM request I was like [ __ ] surely not we should M message Adam but I think a big part of the reason we couldn't speak or do much else is because we weren't so full s we did that in 36 seconds chip and freezy were the second fastest in our group I think and they were 44 seconds yeah so we were we were literally seven or eight seconds I mean I don't exactly know what their milliseconds were but we were seven or eight seconds faster than them and I mean the difference like you watch them go down and they're sort of doing a decent speed but I thought them being go- karters you know they've got their Senor frogs they race every year yeah I was like they're going to bomb it too yeah but they kind of just played it relatively safe I mean good time time but like I do think we we absolutely Center and we had this guy come up to us at the end like should you say yeah say and this guy comes up to us and go don't like freak out now or anything um but we're checking because we genuinely think this was one of the fastest of all time yeah like fastest soap boxes ever he thought we hit the world record run right there and then and they cuz they had to check them by the millisecond yeah and we were a fraction of a second off being the fastest ever 1 18 of a second something something ridiculous like that and uh so I think we were either the second or the third fastest of all time yeah there were rumors at the end of the day and I don't know whether it was Chip just winding us up being like the last car of the day was slightly faster yeah they they yeah they said something like the last car of the day actually broke the world record so if that is true we're the third fastest of all time if not we are the second fastest of all time to go down that track and we rather the second of the first fastest of this year's event which is just just the coolest thing ever like we to be fair have also like we couldn't have picked a design that was Better Built For Speed I mean it's so people were saying this is this is aerodynamic and I was thinking it is but I don't think it's going to make that much of a difference in this yeah scenario and whether it did or not or whether it was just the fact that you didn't break much yeah I think that was it it was quite heavy it was heavy as well you had one of the heavy ones so at the start you can tell this was one of the things we were saying we should have got two people cuz we only got Jake to shove us at the start yeah and when when you start off just going down the ramp it took us a while to pick up speed if we had sort of been shoved and started at a really good pace and kept it at that pace I genely think we could have built the record but I'm I want to do it again same that's why I wanted to keep that cuz we could have just modified that and send it down we know that's a winning formula yeah make it into a submarine or something yeah exactly that thing works but Red Bull like they they we had such a great time with them they did so much for us and we were so grateful and we were speaking see nothing guaranteed and stuff um but they were saying there's a potential for us to come back and maybe do the one that you know you launch off a ramp and you're like 10 m up whatever and you've got to Glide over water as far as possible there and there are loads of other sort of like cool Red Bull events and stuff to do so um yeah I think we make this a thing if we can do just more of this stuff yeah I loved it it was genuinely one of the best things I've ever done I think yeah and there's a the the the only annoying thing is there's so much footage it's going to take a while to get the video together because Red Bull have Clips we have clips they've sent us a hard driver clipse I've got stuff on my phone B has stuff on his phone Jake has stuff on his phone so we'll gather it all together but when the video comes out I think it'll be such a good one because so good the whole experience was just the coolest thing ever and we couldn't be more grateful to Red Bull for that the perfect run at the end we just ended it so perfectly the whole experience I think yeah it couldn't have gone better afterwards I so cool yeah I couldn't get the helmet off though we got to the very end I could not figure out how to unclip the helmet so I did the interview with a helmet on yeah they could not hear thing as well you hear me go oh the atmosphere was electric and I know he said the electric thing and then we um yeah we Kenny from South Park hanging out with us we to I finally I got someone to take my helmet off we drove the soap box down to the graveyard thing but they said they weren't going to break it we put it to one side it might be broken and then we had to run up the hill because we had to get on the live stream to do an interview straight afterwards yeah and oh my God you realize how far we came down Running Up That thing that it was 400 to 500 M back up a relatively Steep Hill on a very hot day we were exhausted from the day before and uh being out the night before and having the race and all that kind of stuff and in boiler suits and it was a hot day boiling I got so sweaty at the top we got to the top and we were like that was just a thoroughly unenjoyable experience but it was cool cuz there I heard I don't I think I told you at the time I heard a kid as we ran past he was like oh my God racers felt like an F1 driver in that moment yeah that really went straight to my head yeah I bet we felt a lot cooler than we probably looked just running around in boiler suits and I'm my Red Bull cap on we had shades on surprised he hasn't got that red bull cap on today by the way that thing you're going to have to peel that off his dead body I've been wearing it so much lady just cuz I I love it it's good for green screen stuff that is the one thing I I might start wearing cuts out the wispy hair yeah it cuts out the wispy hair which kind of ruin the illusion I've got that real issue whereas when you wear a cap it's like a smooth round thing and the green screen just looks much better I see my editors have all been like wear a cap as often as possible oh so they even so they tell you what to do huh you're not Char they do interesting well I keep my editors locked away and then I give them footage and they're like please I want to see my family please share an editor now no King yeah we do shout out king great honestly fantastic worker his work ethic he sent me a video and like couple hours later he was like actually here's a V2 I watched it back and I I could see some improvements I was like kind of mentality and he's not been editing for long either yeah so he's I think all selft talk cow's amazing as well they're both just great honestly yeah people listening a fascinated here about how much we love our tives yeah let's get back to the Red Bull so box race so then we did our interview at the very top which is when cuz we went down first so we were Then followed by all the other creators who did the race um we didn't really get to see them at the time cuz we were running up the the bloody Hill but um we got to the top they all slowly joined us did their interview and then it got revealed the scores so there were different categories we were like ranked on or scored on the first being performance and I I'm pretty sure the style of the cart comes into that as well yeah and so we what did we get like what was it 20 22 it was really bad 40 terrible score we got like a seven a six a three and a five something like that whoever gave us a three what's wrong with you huh they were grumpy though cuz I think chip and frezy got something like 39 and the guy that person gave them a nine apparently they were really mean scoring the whole time that's crazy but chip and fzy knew about the performance thing which we I know how they knew about that we had no idea chip and freezy raced as a box of 20 chicken McNuggets yeah and they brought like homemade barbecue sauce and just on each other yeah pry just poured it all over them it was good like as performances go that's like the best thing you can do yeah so they got a really great score like almost perfect just one guy dropped a mark on it um 39 out 40 but I feel like I feel like giving us a three was really harsh I know our performance wasn't great but the music was very fitting yeah and maybe we should have pretended we were on the moon with our jumping or something like walking like that he just had such a cool carard we had so little time to think about it yeah I feel like it was harsh though look at our car that was really cool yeah maybe we were also ranked harshly because we were the first creators to go down maybe maybe we would have got a better score if we were towards the end I don't know yeah maybe but um yeah we did really bad on that and then you get obviously score for your speed in finishing the race yeah which we smashed Everyone by like four four seconds or something or seven or eight yeah like seven or eight seconds Quicks first to second and the second fastest and I think Becky and pieace got a dnf finish either they hit a minute or they stopped completely yeah cuz they went over one of the jumps and then front end broke so the wheel wasn't really like or the front was touching the floor dragging across the floor so they just I felt bad for them they just ped all across but at least they got down in one piece that's the they were just in a pint glass yeah it was really cool and they had a they had a cool performance Becky poured pint on um pie which was funny um con and Jack had a cool performance they just had some Swagger about it like yeah it was cool oh yeah we got picked on the performance but they did struggle getting into the vehicle did they yeah CU it's really hard and narrow to get in um they got they everyone got all the way to the end by the way Colin Jack fell over at the end there thing just went on its side they they chose thinner Wheels I didn't think they were going to make it that far yeah they also had a really high center of gravity cuz their car was thin and quite tall yeah like if you looked at their car it looked like it wanted to fall over it was a bit like chitty chitty bang bang but like elongated yeah so they did really well to and they were drifting it as well it was drifting so they did really well to get to the bottom um but yeah we were like seven seconds quicker than seven or eight seconds quicker than the second fastest which was it chip and freezy or was it Con I think it might have been no chip and frezy was Heavy wasn't it to be fair so that would move um and then there was People's Choice which we said we won 49% and was those were those those three so I think the reason so we ended up coming third we came third out of the four I just think it wasn't like cuz we won two out of three categories you'd think we'd win but I think they gave they were sort of like weighted yeah so because we were so low on the performance us being ahead on the other two bits didn't pull us up enough I think it's really harsh I think it doesn't matter at all by the way I don't I don't care but I do think it's harsh that performance is weighted so heavily in comparison to like speed has got to be the most important thing yeah like it's a race I know that's that's the way we were looking at it that's because it's a race come on we were focus on the race as aspect obviously soap boxes isn't Formula 1 is supposed to be like a bit of fun cretive stuff which you do get um but yeah hard winning two out of three categories and winning the race comfortably well it was more like at in the moment when they were revealing who won out of us four I was thinking in my head oh we've definitely won yeah after winning we got like 50% of the votes for People's Choice so it was a landslide Victory they said and a landslide Victory on the speed so I was thinking we have smashed those two things so surely we've gained loads of points for that yeah and we came third I was like I'm actually quite shocked by that I in my head I was thinking oh my God we've won yeah but um no it was so means anything like there's I don't there's nothing for it yeah I was just surprised but genuinely so it was so good yeah it was it was definitely definitely one of the best things I've ever done I was so glad that we did it I can't wait for the proper video to come out and have it all like a documentary s of documented archive just being like Oh I can look back at that video that was a banger yeah oh it was it was really good um then we stuck around and watched some public racing um and yeah there was it was it was nice there was a nice like area where you could get food and stuff and the worms showed up oh yeah lots of the patreon supporters a couple of N and non patreon people showed up lots of podcast people I'm guessing everyone there was podcast listeners because I didn't really put it on any platform no I think it it was all podcast we spoken about on the on on the podcast and in the patreon group chat quite a lot yeah and that was pretty much it so thank you well regardless if it's yeah thank you guys for coming along cuz it was so nice speaking to everyone great really great to have your support um yeah and yeah you guys were there for most of the day just like stood by our um what do you call it Soap Box stood by our Soap Box we were coming over when we could to say hi and stuff yeah everyone got photos we oh my goodness quite a lot of people wanted us to draw tattoos for them oh dear and we are not artistic no we're close yeah I'm a letter away but I not draw sa in my life and I was like the only thing I could think of was the rocket emoji yeah that was pretty good to be fair I was trying to draw them but getting the three little things at the bottom and the fire I was like I was like show this to your artist and they'll get what I'm trying to draw yeah they'll understand I mean I just ended up drawing flowers CU it's the easiest thing to draw it's got nothing to do with me a lot of art what just happened you just got bored of your own conversation I just yawned I was hoping you take it off me really quickly cuz I yawned no someone asked for a cameo once where they were like can you draw something for us to do a tattoo and I did a a ringed planet oh nice and oh my goodness trying to get cuz obviously if you put the circle there first the ring that goes in front like cuts through lines and it looks crap so you've kind of got to start with the ring but obviously just as the ring curves back around you have to stop and then you have to imagine where the sphere is going to be and oh my goodness I burnt through about half this notebook trying to get one that just looks semi-reasonable so whoever invented Saturn fair enough yeah exactly that must have been difficult and Uranus yep that's also ringed yeah um many too many rings yeah I've got a ring do you oh yeah and that weekend batch proposed to me so I said yes no I'm talking about my ass what anyway um it was it was a different kind of proposition to the one you were thinking of yours is way cuter than mine and I said no oh hell no I just got that that's disgusting cuz I was like on Saturday night we were just chilling we were like go we're exhausted yeah and I was like do you want to just stay around and Bach was like yeah so we played fornite and watch scary movies yeah he took me to get sushi again yeah we went to sticks and Sushi again but I was like I kind of want to make more videos but we were just so tired yeah I it was too late you just what you made me watch horror stuff we we watched a bunch of scary videos on YouTube like real ghost sightings and short horror movies and I was like I've wanted to do videos like that with you ages I was like then was the perfect time but our energy was just shock yeah we'll do it we'll definitely do it another time though CU people just love that love that horror game yeah is entertaining to watch other people get scared people don't want to watch you have fun they want to watch you cringe and be scared people enjoyed us having fun of Minecraft true but you were scared of I died like five six times I'm not very good clearly everyone's making fun of me did I die once I didn't I don't think no but your spirit died at one point hell no my spirit my spirit was always my spirit were through the roof um when I was getting attacked by Leona Lewis and I was hiding in the house turns out Leona Lewis can't go in water so I should have just gone in water I saw that comment yeah thanks for that thanks for the comment I'm actually going to use that logic and I I already want to film episode three right now do you yeah it was so fun we'll do it this week actually it's so fun like I enjoy playing it we're just loading up M fil although he needs a he needs a setup can we can we tell this boy to put some money towards a proper setup he plays on his PlayStation so we have to play Bedrock Edition so I can't use my nice shaders that make the waters and everything look clean and all the like graphics and stuff you know the like it's T's water we're keeping it the graphics upgrades are insane look just just a bit enjoy a humble bit of like Minecraft where it's nostalgic not everything has to be polished yeah okay fine um but no it was it was really good fun and it is it is I do love that we can just do that kind of stuff and just play a game and it would be fun yeah um we can just like high five when we want yeah anyway um back to let's go back in time to um the end of the race he wet himself no he didn't he didn't no he didn't but um I just want to make sure that we covered everything no because we didn't speak about um the stunt the stunts oh yeah you should tell them about the stunt they they just flung on you they didn't tell you until yeah they didn't tell me about this before and they made me sign my rights away yeah and it it was they had already Ked off the live stream so you just had to do it yeah um we basically batch got nice one he got pulled aside and they were like oh is the driver we're testing your reflexes yeah and what did they do they so she dropped a ruler and you just had to grab the ruler um as soon as she dropped it and just see how many centimeters you let drop to judge your reaction time I didn't do I think I came second actually nice but on the practice I failed uh so I was like oh that was nice and peaceful and fun I wonder what mine's going to be and they get me and they they I put this heart monitor on and I was like what they put this heart monitor on me put me in the middle of this cage and this dude called like Douglas or something comes up in this massive dirt bike and just goes like I'll lie down in the middle and I was like I know exactly where this is going got R to me and Jack just start planking and he's sort of in this giant he giant of a man I swear he's like 6'4 in this massive dirt bike and he's sort of there like on one wheel bouncing the like wheel like an inch from my head and I'm like if he just if anything misjudges he crushes my skull yeah like we we we lose one of the Bright Young talents of this generation and you as well wait what do you mean well they'd get Jack and you oh yeah yeah good old Jack and then then he was doing like wheelies around your head like just driving past full speed past his head yeah it was giving me the E actually see lie down there insane and I was just like well I'm playing it cool cuz that's like the name of the game it'd be cringe if I got up and I mean they they even said that if you get up you're at risk of just getting your head whacked cuz he's like an inch within your head so if you move it until you die yeah um and for like a minute he just did this and bounced around and yeah you were down there for a hot minute yeah we were there for ages just getting driven around I thought oh this is just getting this is just cruel now yeah I mean the poor boy is just lying there with a boner by the way uh because he gets that happens when he gets scared just why you think I keep getting you for horror games oh no i h on a Bo so he's just doing circling circling circling around Arthur on the floor it just I just felt a bit sorry for him in the end yeah uh so that was terrifying but good F night you know I'm up for anything I did realized the other day I'm just one of his friends who's just up for thing yeah you are actually someone could be like hey we're going to sit inside and watch movies tonight I be like fine or they can be like come on man we're robbing a bank I'm like cool they'll be like come on going glamping for the weekend do you is that real though if I said or okay let's go and watch the Euros tonight fine let's do it England England this is the last night of the group stage and all of a sudden the mood is really dead because we're just through now we've not played well either it's been pathetic there I said it and Harry Kane when you finally come on this podcast I've got some strong words to have with you mine mine Reserve is Gareth Southgate and not bringing BR and not playing kobby Mayu okay sorry Harry Kane actually way he's playing phenomenally to be not as if we're missing him but I'm mad at you Southgate yeah Italy um not playing too bad oh my goodness you're Italian did you watch the game last night and they scored the 90th plus eight to go through 98th minute it was the draw against Croatia oh that was heartbreaking poor the thing is they probably would have gone through anyway as one of the people third but um it's nice to confirm it you know yeah those moments of elation just so hard I think Italy just like a decent Striker anyway we won't bore you with football because a lot of people probably don't care about football yeah um but yeah I mean I'm getting into F1 now yes you are you watch drive to survive right yeah I've been watching drive to surv I need to get on that I really want to watch that um and hence why the Red Bull so box race I was really in I was really in my element Because You Loved does it make you love Red Bull as well the driver to survive does it follow a particular team it follows the mall and to be honest I haven't really got like a team I really um it's not like I really want to see this team win it's more people that you care about it's good to see Red Bull doing well but um I like Lando do you yeah you're Lando Norris enjoyer I'm a Lando enjoyer I like them all to be fair from what I've seen I like I get I like Char all oh cuz he kind he kind of looks like Charles mclair uh yeah I get uh Lando Norris a lot people always say like L nor I'm not sure about that boy and uh obviously like V stappen red the Red Bull goat what batch V stappen high five what does that even mean batch for steppen me batch for steppen batch for steppen me instead of Max for Sten batch for Sten it's one of the only times that batch really goes into anything batch for Sten what do people nickname you at school get tuna boy cuz I've brought in tuna fish boy uh right I was going duckling I was going for more names like name related like okay because I was oh name related I was I was called nothing I was just called Arthur I don't know why I said it like that I was called Nothing me yeah had no friends at school no I didn't really people would say ice as a joke ice yeah I just I didn't like not having a cool nickname name my sister one of my sisters calls me Izzy that's really cringe and feminine yo she watches these which is fine yo she watches these apologize down the lens right now I apologize nothing cuz it is it was true it was my truly held opinion and you should never apologize for being yourself sometimes she calls me Elizabeth as well what and I don't really know where she got that from she started that was a good what what yeah she watches it where she works as she was working she'll have it on Gizzy by the way I didn't get cancelled for what Sunday came out where I waterboarded Chris I haven't watched that and I was seriously worried I was genuinely like I thought you know just some people on the internet can be real yeah cuz they might be like oh you're making fun of water boarding people actually die from water boarding that's not what I exactly what I meant oh because okay you can't waterboard Chris because he doesn't like water and some people have been drowned before no okay of course because because you shouldn't do water boarding because it's like saying this is something you should it's really on impressionable fans and they'll be like okay I'm going to water board my mom tonight right maybe maybe that was like oh you shouldn't do that on to an impression I'm going to cancel you right now in that case um but no I I I just thought people would be like oh that was so mean of him they're not friends like just you know when you don't really know I mean obviously anyone who's seen Chris and videos knows how much abuse he puts me through I mean that guy abuse shs down on my neck like there's no tomorrow he's just I I'll just be chilling mid shootting he'll just go on my traps I mean granted they're juicy like they're nice muscular defined um have you ever thought you might just be a vampire I don't know hiding in plain sight you know you've got two Pierce marks right there you getting sucked by you've got really garlicky breath so I don't think I could be a a vampire cuz otherwise let's not start rumors like that otherwise I'd run there's not start rumors like that yeah my breath smells like daisies rainbows fairy tales I'm always chewing gum you are always chewing gum you're a real gum chewer yeah it Bo it boosts your confidence it's like putting a pair of sunglasses on I'm glad you don't do it on the podcast that would be the most annoying thing to listen to I have done it before but I just tuck it into my teeth like snz you don't mean that it's gum you don't mean that it's gum it's just weird you don't mean that it's gum gum started freaking out you know we were speaking about eggs the other day when you you're Midway through eating heads and you're like wait up yeah that's a period something ain't right that's a menstrual cycle raor and you're like yeah well that weirdly makes me like it more it's more than I knew you were a feminist me too come on yeah um we do like to bring awareness to the fact that women exist and have Cycles cuz I I I mentioned menstrual cycles all the time and I in one of my YouTube videos I was like I've got to stop saying menstrual cycles drop a comment if you think I should stop saying menual cycle everyone's like no and someone's like no it actually feels kind of feminist in a weird way cuz you're bringing light to the fact of cuz not everyone knows that women have I think everyone knows women have periods I found out 3 days ago watching your video you thought they had penis what I just thought they merely existed they merely exist in a in a realm Between Heaven and Hell where somewhere I love doesn't exist what the hell is this guy talking about women only exist in heaven women are heaven on Earth in my opinion how does that song Go heaven heaven for what it's worth women are heaven on Earth women are heaven on Earth brother in Christ you don't know what you're talking about right now I feel like we're getting on to Serious brain rot have you got anything else this is a rare batch prepared actually been praying preparing a lot um all of the episodes lately we've actually yeah hence why the quality's increased um no you just you do stuff in a different way I like like reading and talking reading well next episode's prepared by by Arthur and we'll be filming this directly after this one yeah we're doing complet transparency cuz batch is way on holiday and I'm going to be honest because I'm not I've not brought a spare pair of clothes anyway yeah me neither I don't want to hear no comments like why is he wearing that shirt again well they should be comenting CU alth this on an episode before quite frankly Arthur is either can I just say by the way I predicted what you were going to be wearing on the Red Bull meal I said Arthur will turn up in Black corduroy shorts um and a cream beige top shirt either worn as an overshirt with a white t-shirt underneath or just a shirt that's exactly what you were that's true I mean I have two other pairs of shorts I had a black like pair that were like had textured but the waistband thing snapped hard to find a good pair of shorts and then I had a nice like cream beige pair yeah um but they were just like I don't know linen and just ended up being a bit too and take it from a guy a sleepover with him he doesn't take them off he showers in them he goes me to take them off he was like take them off take them off take them off and I was like leave me alone yeah I was like please wash please wash you were just misreading me I wasn't saying take them off I was like please wash please wash anyway I I got the um I went into the patreon chat o uh little plug if you want to join the patreon go ahead there's a chat you get early access to episodes they get uploaded all the time and Bullies me in it yeah I do speak in there a fair amount um and I said to them we're filming two pods today can you guys reply to this message with any questions you have about the Red Bull Soapbox race we're going to be doing a whole episode on it uh because I thought there might be you know they might want to know more information on how it was built or how we were feeling and stuff and we could just give us some insight to that we've just explained the day how cool it was blah blah blah but they want to know the BTS let's see how insightful their questions can be okay did you hurt your nose that's [ __ ] rude no I didn't that obviously pointed at you no I didn't to be fair I did we had said in an episode prior that there was no foam and we are going to smash our faces in they put foam in we had good helmets on but we didn't actually crash so yeah we didn't crash so although his coxic bone is in pain yeah my coxics I'm absolutely fine because I'm not weak that's your tailbone um may ask for us highly evolved Apes that was from Brooke by the way I'll say names shout outs May says how SL why did you decide to build a rocket why I guess cuz it's very on brand for us have a look at our mugs yep yeah I mean we're just we're were're a Spacey themed podcast for no apparent reason we genely I'm sure we said in the earlier episodes we had no plans to be themed and bats just randomly one day went let's just make it space themed I just think it's cool yeah me I just think we both think it's cool we do we just need a cool set I think most of the things we do is because we think oh that's cool like the Soap Box we thought oh it'd be cool if we did a a ship or a ufi yeah just cuz it just cuz it's funny someone actually messaged in for the next one I've got like the submissions from the normal submissions page which everyone can enter just go to our any of our socials at Bach and arur and in the link there's like a a link tree and one of them is the submissions form and they were like what is your target audience because I can't really figure it out and I'm studying media at the moment target audience is such a big thing and I was like we don't have one we just come on talk about whatever we find interesting yeah and just hope that some people agree yeah and the people who do listen are actually very um diverse yeah and intelligent and cool and good looking and all this yeah um so yeah no um yeah and it's weird because we're not sitting there going oh let's talk about this to appeal to this audience which I think is I mean somehow it works so thank you guys for tuning into thanks cuz I think if you analyzed it in like a media class and it was like oh one minute you're doing brain rot meme references and the next you're talking about s men and then the next we're talking about Greek philosophy and the next one like Roman Parables and then religion they'd be like well someone's going to listen to the one episode like it and then not like the rest yeah but for some reason people just like listening to it all really I think we just decided that we're just going to do what we want like yeah whatever we enjoy yeah like whatever we enjoy and whatever we F feel like talking about we're just going to do it because if you want to enjoy something you've like if you want this if we want this podcast to continue we've got to enjoy it and if we're looking at it tactically like Oh Let's do an episode on this so we can boost our audience in this demographic it will start to feel like a like a real job well like you know I've heard from other people that do podcasts that their producers will be like today you're having this guest on and they're like well I've never watched the show they're on or Never follow them don't care about the story but I've got to do it's nice that we kind of have a just able to just go oh whatever and I do think the stuff we talk about is interesting broadly like if you're someone who like whenever we meet or speak to anyone who watches the podcast they're always like oh I love like these types of interesting discussions I feel like if you have a generally curious mind yeah like if if people who are listening to this and enjoy it are going to be similar to us in that respect and they you know even if they don't have a an interest in any of the particular like they might be like oh I love hearing about religion I'm a curious person but they don't care about Greek philosophy yeah or anything when we speak about the ship of thesis they're still like oh it's an interesting thought like it's an interesting thought so if you're one of those types of people like us then all that kind of stuff is interesting I guess thus our our demographic is people who just have similar interests to us yeah or like have a similar outlook on life or yeah that's the thing it's not even like it's just it's the broad value of curiosity I think who just like they like to laugh they like a bit of Comedy cuz we even get people who disagree with us and they're like oh I'm religious I completely disagree with this all but it was so interesting to listen to and so they're not listening because we're speaking about things that they find um they agree with or they enjoy you know but they're going like oh like I like the way these topics are approached or the way this is discussed and yeah so yeah hopefully we'll try and keep that up um hey no way we're going to brain Rock 24/7 after here or no anyway um Connie asked what was your top speed we don't actually know but what did you think it was 30 well when we passed we passed the speed gate at what will be one of the fastest points and that was 30 okay mil K yeah km pH um Leia says do you think you were going to make it to the Finish Line did you think you were going to make it to the Finish Line I genuinely um did not think we were going to make it past the chicane to be honest yeah cuz I didn't realize the course was as wide as it was however the as narrow as it was you mean actually yeah yes and no the thing is it's like driving a car when you're in a car it looks like you're you're bigger than the road but actually you can fit in much smaller of a gap than you expect yourself to be able to and so when you're actually in the soap box when we were doing the chicane in my head I thought we're going to catch one of the hay bals and go flying but actually although it was actually pretty close watching it back it felt like I had enough room to get round and stuff well two hay bals we did fully slic through well yeah if the wings were like flat fronted we would have we could have just spun out flown but because the wings were just like yeah we the first one and then the second one we through that yeah um but in no I didn't think we were going to make it down in one piece to be honest I thought either we'd get to the end and there' be damage or we'd fall over at the end or we just wouldn't make it to the end cuz it's not a like it more often than not you don't make it to the end yeah so I thought statistically I didn't I didn't think we were going to make it to the end so I was surprised were you or not it's so funny because at the start you're like I really don't know but be when you're going down it's so fast and you've got to think a lot like yeah I was just constantly thinking like just monitoring whether we were going too fast or not to be like bring the speed down ever so slightly and it's everything's happening so fast you don't have time to think oh are we going to make it like any hypotheticals it's just uh pull the break break on break off break off oh my goodness are we going to make this corner are we going to too fast at how are we doing like all this kind of stuff's rushing through your head I didn't even think about it I was no so yeah I had no thoughts in my head either I think we were just on reflex at that point yeah because every yeah like Arthur said everything's coming at you so quick like before the chane I thought I had enough time to put my hand up and wave and I was like [ __ ] no I don't yeah so that's when I came back onto the wheel and did that so we really don't have much time in that thing um then Phoenix asks what was the hardest and easiest part of the creative process oh hard po was coming up with an idea for what we wanted to do as the car because we took ages like they were asking us for the design for so long and we were like we really don't know it is hard when you can do literally anything it's like the classic situation where you've got too much Choice yeah so you can't make a decision and neither necessarily creative creative types yeah so we and also it's it's difficult as well when there's two people because obviously if one person wants to do something we we agreed yeah we we didn't have any friction on what we wanted to do we because we both didn't really have an idea but you've got to make sure that what one person comes up with the other person's happy to do um but I think from the go we just suggested either a space shuttle or UFO we were both happy with those two ideas and then we had a look at some pictures and we thought okay let's go for a space sh that was it yeah so I think that um it was hard in the beginning but to to be honest the decision process was pretty easy for us in the end I do think the hardest part although that was hard I think what was harder for us was probably um building the chassis don't you think it was harder than the woodwork yeah that's probably true cuz we didn't have any engineer assistance with the underly car yeah the actual chassis itself we just had bits like we didn't have instructions for half of it we were in in a big Warehouse with just a bunch of nuts bolts rods	setup he plays on his PlayStation so we have to play Bedrock Edition so I can't use my nice shaders that make the waters and everything look clean and all the like graphics and stuff you know the like it's T's water we're keeping it the graphics upgrades are insane look just just a bit enjoy a humble bit of like Minecraft where it's nostalgic not everything has to be polished yeah okay fine um but no it was it was really good fun and it is it is I do love that we can just do that kind of stuff and just play a game and it would be fun yeah um we can just like high five when we want yeah anyway um back to let's go back in time to um the end of the race he wet himself no he didn't he didn't no he didn't but um I just want to make sure that we covered everything no because we didn't speak about um the stunt the stunts oh yeah you should tell them about the stunt they they just flung on you they didn't tell you until yeah they didn't tell me about this before and they made me sign my rights away yeah and it it was they had already Ked off the live stream so you just had to do it yeah um we basically batch got nice one he got pulled aside and they were like oh is the driver we're	8	4	6	setup he plays on his PlayStation so we have to play Bedrock Edition so I can't use my nice shaders that make the waters and everything look clean and all the like graphics and stuff you know the like it's T's water we're keeping it the graphics upgrades are insane look just just a bit enjoy a humble bit of like Minecraft where it's nostalgic not everything has to be polished yeah okay fine um but no it was it was really good fun and it is it is I do love that we can just do that kind of stuff and just play a game and it would be fun yeah um we can just like high five when we want yeah anyway um back to let's go back in time to um the end of the race he wet himself no he didn't he didn't no he didn't but um I just want to make sure that we covered everything no because we didn't speak about um the stunt the stunts oh yeah you should tell them about the stunt they they just flung on you they didn't tell you until yeah they didn't tell me about this before and they made me sign my rights away yeah and it it was they had already Ked off the live stream so you just had to do it 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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0g_xJvKEb8	4,108	-0g_xJvKEb8	2024-06-27 00:00:00	[Music] what's up everybody welcome back to episode 14 of the batch and Arthur podcast yay go thanks for joining everyone we have something to reveal yes we do I know you guys don't like it when Arthur has his mug on the couch because he tends to drop things don't you never dropped anything actually okay you dropped that th done remember that well you might have noticed I also have my mug on the sofa mhm wondering why who wants to know why should we tell them something to do with one like equals one Lara maybe something to do with that exactly you guys ready see what you reveal go way for audio listeners we have white mugs with our little cartoon characters on them that's right little will I didn't want to Cheers you and I've got my little handsome space guy come on yeah Lara surprised us with these this is a gift um mine shatterproof as well apparently oh it's not sh yeah he's got a plastic mug because we know what he's like I've sippy C the audio listeners actually little rubber cppy cup with two handles well actually when Arthur drinks from a mug show them how you do it I'll I'll commentate for this he uses two hands so he grabs on the like handle and then he grabs the other hand I drink everything with two hands especially tea and Pints yeah I don't really know what is there a reason for that or not safety I guess twice as balanced is that really if one arm stops working the other one's there as a fail safe well there you go that's why he does it guys so it makes sense all after all yeah um speaking of batch and Arthur this podcast design right here yeah this has been plasted on something recently what our rocket ship oh yeah guys we just got back from the Red Bull Soap Box race and we're alive 2024 we genuinely were not sure we were going to survive no I was but we did really scared we we turned up we got to see other people's cards um and there was basically two things going on so there's like a public race and then the Creator race was like a separate thing which is streamed on YouTube If you go on Red Bull's um YouTube channel and you go on under the live tab you can actually watch the full thing yeah we were like a half time race yeah it was Bas half time show yeah there was a few people who weren't happy about the Creator's uh racing cuz they thought we were mixed in with the public but it's like a whole separate thing like we can't win any awards over the public or anything like that yeah um but but we won the hearts of the public come on yeah we did win the hearts of the public there was a a couple of things that you were like rated on as creators and one of them was People's Choice and we got a landslide victory of 44% yeah it actually ended up on 49% 50% out of four teams we got 49 everyone rounds 49 thank you to everyone who voted for us we one of four teams but we're up against chip and freezy who have a big loving audience Becky and pieace who audience and then con from the siden huge loving audience and the guy who's our cameraman on the train video the siden that's right Jack was there as well went to with con they had cool out but uh we we got to Ali p uh that's my first time there you've been there before actually I think we should start the day before okay let's let's reel that [ __ ] back because we had another sleepover kind of yeah we did have another let's just say oh no we didn't really a hotel yeah we did not have a sleepover but what did we do where did we first meet we we met at the we met at the hotel at the hotel dropped our bags off Adam was there he's the Red Bull guy that was been looking after us and he took all the creators out to dinner yeah we to find the tell first yeah chopped a pint um both hands come on yeah then we got in a taxi we went to dinner we had a create a dinner um what did you eat pizza yeah I had a really really hot hot pizza but the thing I was enjoying the most was the football we had a massive screen in front of us oh yeah cuz France were playing Netherlands NE scen I felt kind of harsh cuz the the table was positioned in a way that only half of us could see the football and the other half were just watching us watching football yeah but no he they were watching a react video basically they got to see us live reacting In the Flesh um but the meal was really good the food was really good uh Jake was struggling Jake the guy works with um Arthur they both got the same Pizza he was struggling with the heat yeah he was [ __ ] [ __ ] struggling with the Pint as well got two pints steep was steaming no cuz he was so in denial Jake yeah Jake had a couple pints and he was gone we were like you are drunk he like I am not drunk and he was getting angry mad I'm not even drunk he's I haven't even done anything later he's doing karaoke so that's belting out karaoke with his phone to the to the mic with with voice note on my God it's so that was you singing those Tunes to someone yeah we yeah CU you've been to a place before should we say the name of the place or not I actually I don't remember it anyway okay we went to this place anyway Arthur's been there before it's um like a karaoke bar with uh like an arcade and bowling and there's a dance floor and like a bar and stuff like that yeah very good fun we all went there did some karaoke went there for Arthur Hill's birthday that's how I found out about it what a place it is a cool place actually um yeah did a bit of karaoke we were in there for a couple hours doing karaoke in the end yeah um belting at tunes by the way batch can sing No Arthur can sing yeah but I think people would assume that from but that goes without saying no but but Frank Sinatra came on and oh my goodness batch was just cooking that thing anyone can sing Frank arra welcome back Frank Sinatra he died and this is him reborn wasn't wasn't he heavily involved with the mafia Frank Sinatra so are you you're a quter Italian that's true but I can't admit that no not legally anyway oops they're going to come and get me try and come and get me watch me beat beat you all up actually I shouldn't say what if they do don't come and get me please I was just kidding I've got nothing to do with him he lives on 32 Italian back street oh my god that actually is my house number H what don't say that it's not that's my apartment number as well no we you're not finding out where we live um I'm going to move in with Arthur anyway we moved in together on Minecraft yeah sort of anyway back to karaoke we had fun at karaoke then we went home we didn't get back till 3:00 a.m. silly move because we had to be up early yeah we had it well not that early we had 10: a.m. taxi picks up yeah but we met at breakfast at 9:30 it was the most romantic breakfast of my life yeah um and then stayed at the Hilton Red Bull of class they put us in there they also like what a lovely experience not only did they take us to dinner they they paid for karaoke and everything like that they covered everything shout out to Red Ball I'm going to crack One open right now and they're actually delicious all these colored red balls my actual favorite is the summer edition you guys should actually try this this is not sponsored but I'm just saying this is not even the first thing I I did I went to salburg in Austria and did some Red Bull salburg video shooting with Chris MD um we did like penal sh outs in games with mads bistrup for their YouTube channel and then did a video in it was the the final one of christed uh every time you beat a Defender the defender gets upgraded that's right yeah and we start off with like Harry R Shaw as the worst Defender when all the way up to Champions League mads bistr who fantastic player I mean yeah you realize how like when you watch t uh football on TV you think oh I could do that yeah but then if you see a actual Pro in real life yeah like that makes sense why you went pro now actually we need to do more charity so that was fun that was fun there are a lot going on it's just timings cuz there's so many things going on during summer and that's usually when charity matches go down yeah but you got to work in the schedules either you're away or I'm away or there's a brand trip or something has to be submitted in time was crazy yeah but um no I'm sure we're going to do a lot more stuff with Red Bull as well so that's exciting um but anyway we then got the taxi to Alex Alexandra Palace Ali pal come on and um I've only just realized that's why it's Ali P really yeah I just thought that Ali P was the hill and Alexandre Palace was no way Ali now I've just heard it okay that's Ali P right anyway U you almost did a off the TV intro that right right so then we uh we got into the race so no we got into the Zone where the race was going on yeah and we got to have a little scout out all the public submitted soap boxes some really cool stuff in there yeah although there was one weird one because we rock up and there are like four girls gathered around water is essentially a double bed one girl just tucked up and you back like oh this is cool and she was like yeah it's really cozy get in we were like no I I ain't doing all that I'm sure though that you know that wasn't actually her like lying in it yeah I know you could tell something was weird under the covers but I was not getting involved what what what the hell um oh you can't see my soundboard I've got to pull this back so I can soundboard here yeah he hasn't got a soundboard yet thank goodness although I should no they all see the comments by the way Lara and Arthur see the comments and Lara even said into the group chat she was like I think we need to get bat of soundboard because of all the comments she sent me a message being like listen we've got one purchase a year we can authorize either we get cool mugs or batch gets a soundboard and I was like mugs mugs oh hell no I just think it's so much funnier when you do it yourself and go to I do think so but this is going to get worn down and eventually there's going to be a Hole uh oh audio listeners don't know what I'm doing I I just I pretend there's a soundboard and I just push the sof and make my I do it as well I do it in real life I'll be speaking to people when I'm BR but it doesn't make his much sense in real life just in a conversation he's just air poking stuff as he goes brh you know what's so funny as well I showed batch this someone one of you guys one of our listeners because cuz I you do it quite a lot but I do it all the time at you do the what yeah what that thing someone did a Tik Tok called whatting people in public so she goes into this petrol station goes to pay she goes like how much is that and he goes like Oh 1350 and she just goes what loud so loud just yells it in this man's face and everyone was like bad bad you guys have to recreate this it was so funny yeah and then Arthur was like we've got to do this we've got I don't know if I have the like what is it um social confidence to do that I'd be able to do it not yell it I thought it was a bit rude though the loud yelling not in a bad I'm not criticizing you I just able to do that like that myself I'd be like what I think sorry you got no no soup of the day what what when you have a camera on you though that you get a new found confidence in public like I found no no no in general I don't know if you agree with this in like a sidan video I Feel Like rules don't apply like social rules then don't apply cuz you've got a camer on you and you can do what you want whatever you want yeah I've only recently started being able to finally find it within myself to Vlog like when we were at wagas I was like this is actually fine yeah whereas before IID look at people vlogging in public and I go I admire you a lot cuz I can never do that it helps having people around you yeah although I feel like we do it with our phones it's a bit easier that's true whereas if people with their cameras out like facing their way I'm like oh my goodness I'd be so embarrassed yeah I think I would be as well especially if you got like a big rig on the end of that thing people are just admiring you your rig yeah both of them come on anyway um what speaking of the soap boxes that we saw um there was this one there was like these four guys like lying down chilling and they had this like Dome oh yeah which was kind of like a I guess like a spa you know the space shuttles that come down to earth it kind of looked a bit like that didn't yeah um like a landing module yeah like a landing module and they what did what did they make it off fiberglass or something yeah oh my God you could smell it from where we were still and they were like stick your head in that so we stuck it you stuck your head in first took a whiff and I did it afterwards oh my God dizzying genuinely dizzying I'm high I'm still high from that moment if anyone's ever been in like a a surfboard shop where they like make the surfboards yeah it smells like that it just smell exactly like that and they bizarre I just burped on I thought that was what that was that was disgusting hopefully that didn't get picked up apologize sorry guys sorry if you heard that cut that out anyway um it's not getting cut uh it they had to spend the whole run down in that thing so I think those guys are a little bit waved yeah I'm glad we I'm glad we were just a team of two and had two seats because I kind of felt bad some people that pushed the Soap Box thing down yeah like running after it for like 50 meters and it was a hot day that's true like um most people was like a team of four and two would push two would be in it I think that's standard isn't it to have two people in the so box and then a team that will push and Chase it down probably chase down chip and freezies yeah funny it was funny as well the way he was running because I guess it was like a it was like Looney Tunes the way he had his arms up like that chasing them down to be fair there are people I felt more bad for he talking about some of the injuries of the day oh my God and this is the thing like good gosh man we were already nervous then we were then we got to S see our um vehicle which they had made some mods to by the way so put me at ease a little bit they put foam in the place where my head would smash oh yeah so I felt about that yeah um they didn't they were going to cut out the wheel arches so we could turn more but they didn't I'm glad they I actually think that worked in our favor in it did um and they were actually slagging it off when it went up on towards stage they were speaking about it on Mike and they were like they can't turn properly they can't see over it and I was thinking oh no they're slagging off our thing they were talking about our buckets on the back and stuff I don't know if they were slagging off the buckets or just speaking about I just heard bucket like they're talking about ours oh my god um but it actually worked in favor and then there was screens up showing the first runs and it took a while it like an hour or two after we got there till the first run um but did you see the Sheep one no I didn't see any of the big ones but that's a bad one there was a sheep we I was watching a sheep go down um it was just before you did your stunt I think and it got all the way to the end and then at full speed flipped over onto their necks and I think it was one of them that broke their collarbone and it looked awful and after seeing that me and pieace was stood together we were like I we genuinely don't want to go down after seeing that he was [ __ ] it I was [ __ ] it um and then not only that I think other people must have like been bruised or whatever but the other big one that we heard about is we when we got to the start line we were there waiting for like 10 minutes and it was cuz the person who went down before us got knocked out so that's crazy yeah which I didn't see I don't think we'll ever see any footage of that but I don't know what vehicle it was or anything I just heard that they got knocked out that's why we were up there for ages yeah I mean it was going down insanely fast yeah it look I mean it looks quick on camera but it doesn't look nearly as quick as it feels yeah when you're in that thing oh my goodness and you can barely see in front of you you're bouncing all over the place you're hitting these jumps there are bits where there's foam that like splashes you in the face you have a few seconds of blindness yeah it's mental it it to best describe it definitely feels faster than sitting in a car at 60 MPH I'd say faster than it feels sitting in a car going 100 yeah cuz you're so exposed to we've never gone 100 I've been on the auto bar in Germany okay fair um but yeah you're exposed so it just feels so quick but we were quick insanely Qui insanely quick I think everyone we were the first of the creators to go up everyone thought we were going to just crash yeah or just be crap and slow there was so many comments so many DMs I got afterward was like [ __ ] fair enough before we even went down though before we get cuz we we will react we'll show you us going down yeah but I think we should tell them actually maybe should we hit play and then we'll pause at certain bits to be like explainer yeah I'll tell you what it plays it goes all the way through and then they do it in slow-mo afterwards we can on the slow-mo we'll do some explanation okay here we go batch and Arthur we had the podcast sticker oh it was such a good sticker on the side which was really cool and they zoomed in out loads for the YouTube video which is great yeah was all over the stream which was ideal although you cannot see podcast there until someone shads over it yeah someone's just shattering we were stood up there for ages genuinely yeah because someone had just been knocked out looking down this hill that was just so steep it's not funny but look at that thing that's so impressive it's so well built I can't believe it and I'm I'm gutted because I actually wanted to say to the we had a little bit of help from the Red Bull Engineers yeah I wanted to say thank you to them more just be like what did you see that that was really good yeah if anyone knows anything by any chance please pass on our thanks because yeah they they helped us hopefully they watched it and saw a great deal uh but we did do a lot I mean we did spend two full days building this thing and printing it up and stuff so yeah which you'll obviously see in the Vlog I'll talk about I'll talk about something later cuz there's um this was posted to Tik Tok and there's some funny comments on there really basically yeah basically calling us desk dwellers what so this is our performance so this performance we didn't know we no was supposed to do we we were told to choose a piece of music so we chose something like Space Odyssey style but we had no idea that meant we had to perform yeah and like like she's saying like there are points for performance and we knew about 10 minutes beforehand that this 30 second period of Music we'd have to Performance so we were like let's just do something simple gum shields in the mouth bow and get in and they were harsh they gave us a three but that also also counts to the way the vehicle looks so I think three is Harsh yeah but here we go performance score 22 poor but this is when we started racking up speed the steering was really weird as well cuz it changed as we got quicker and we were just bouncing as we went down like we'd hit a ramp and oh my goodness like almost front flipped that around we Whi around the corner and our our genuine one of our wings like clipped a ha Bell and just sliced through it that one sliced through the hay Bell I was thinking as we came down I swear I would have hit that side had I not hit that side and then nailed the braking and you said you could smell burnt rubber when you were breaking on that thing cuz I was like tickling the brakes like before a jump every now and then I do one all as we approached the chicane I pulled it yeah um but they said as we were going down in the commentary like yeah oh this feels fast usually you're hitting like low 20s here and it comes up on the side and we're hitting 30 km an hour yeah we were going and we were oh my goodness I'm glad you didn't break touch the break though we didn't need it yeah yeah I mean you did a did a little bit but I mean the others obviously touched it a lot more yeah I basically kept us at a speed where I was like this is very close to the line of like where we can make this corner at the speed because at the end of the day as a race and I was like we don't want to get up at the end and just be like oh like a couple of the soite boxes made it halfway down and just like stopped completely yeah and they were like having to like like I don't know like Shake It Forward it's so awkward like we did speak and we did say we'd actually rather crash going pretty quick than come to a grinding hle because it's just not good material yeah like we did it for Content wants to see that it's for a video we know representing creators at half time yeah so many people watching we've got a space shuttle that is designed at a velocity of 17,000 500 mph yeah so we were like you know hitting to be honest when they gave us those uh cuz we asked for special helmets that covered the face yeah when they gave me that I felt invincible and I thought oh [ __ ] it and we had gum Shields that we like ped poured into boiling water molded them before and molded them so we we felt pretty safe yeah I mean but still at 30 we weren but I don't have miles hour or kilm an hour I think it was mph I actually do really yeah but whatever it is at 30 like genuinely like just whacking your head against something solid is well I mean someone did get knocked out and broke it was terrifying yeah they they then do a slow-mo okay let's watch the slow-mo and we can break down exactly because I was thinking there was a point in the chicane when we really Whi round I was thinking why did that happen it was because the back right wheel wasn't on the ground when we were coming up to the chicane so when it touched the the ground it turned us into a corner so I was like [ __ ] and I had to spin it around one way and then back around the other way oh that's why we had that major wobble yeah and you can see it it's like it's cuz one of the wheels wasn't on the ground okay let's let's watch and like in the first one we'll try and go for the audio listeners kind of describe what we're seeing yeah so the first jump yeah we it was a heavy a heavy bit of Kit as well we definitely had one of the heavier ones it and it was like so we got through here the back that wheel wasn't on the ground so like had to correct it well the chicane of just having to go really quick left and then really quick right after yeah and then this pit we hit a bunch of stairs and bch basically grinds on the right hand of them it's cuz afterwards we had to be on the right hand side so I was thinking I can't turn directly after I'm going to have to turn on the ramp like the CL the the course is split in two with like steps on the left and straight on the right and we go down the steps but like half dangling off yeah you have a choice whether to do jumps or not obviously we were going to do the jumps cuz you get docked time um no they add time on if you go round cuz it's a bit unfair yeah but we you were just like let's head it yeah and after the first jump it it looks like we really jump around I don't know about you but in it it didn't feel that bad I I think I'm the exact opposite cuz I was going flying and my bum still Hur May was our positioning or cuz I was holding on to this when yeah I had nothing to hold on to I was just sat on a blue seat I re yeah I reckon that's what it was cuz it kept me like sort of planted you fix and you're in the center so with us like when when you go off the Jump the nose sort of goes down yeah it did and then the back col kicks up into the air and then slams down and because I'm at the back you really got you know I've got a lot further to fall and I just got whacked and my butt like when I sit on the sofa like no I can feel it bruised on I was actually un unscared I was absolutely fine yeah God it was um after that first jump though I got a lot more confidence in the run I was thinking oh that was fine I can we can do all the [ __ ] jumps yeah I just got full speed no I rate it I'm so glad you just sent it cuz and you I mean you didn't have a choice sending it yeah you just you na yeah exactly you could SL down but uh I they miked us did they mic you up CU they miked me up but I said nothing the whole run yeah why would you you couldn't because the thing is I was so focused I think it's because we went so quick because there's a Red Bull posted a video on their Tik Tok page where because they miked up chip and freezy and um it's off chip speaking to freezy and he's like on the brakes off the brakes okay we're going to go around this now and I think it's CU they were using the brakes and communicating about the brakes that they had stuff to say but because we were just you told me before you weren't going to touch the brake so I thought okay he's really not there's no point saying anything and you know whether it's a Brak or not so I was just thinking I'm just going to drive I was literally only thinking like I'm only going to slow us down if I feel like at this speed we either can't hit that jump properly or can't go around the corner and I was just tickling it and it was only at the end like I was like I've got to wait until we cross the finish line before I can break and I just Ram it and because it was a friction break it's like literally a metal bar that just pulls down onto both of the rear wheels it just starts smelling like burning rubber actually nailed that was so good though cuz we literally landed after that last jump we landed and I was like [ __ ] the Finish is right there and all I could hear was I just knew he pulled that thing so hard we came around the corner and didn't touch a single thing because he broke just in time yeah and the thing was untouched like the they said they it could get sent back to one of us so I send it to my house um I got I didn't tell you this yet I got a DM from someone saying I'm just about to watch your soap box get destroyed what no it's been graveyard we took it to a graveyard but we put it to one side no they told us we could have it uh yeah oh the guy might be lying I I pray he is cuz that's so harsh but I saw it in the DM request I was like [ __ ] surely not we should M message Adam but I think a big part of the reason we couldn't speak or do much else is because we weren't so full s we did that in 36 seconds chip and freezy were the second fastest in our group I think and they were 44 seconds yeah so we were we were literally seven or eight seconds I mean I don't exactly know what their milliseconds were but we were seven or eight seconds faster than them and I mean the difference like you watch them go down and they're sort of doing a decent speed but I thought them being go- karters you know they've got their Senor frogs they race every year yeah I was like they're going to bomb it too yeah but they kind of just played it relatively safe I mean good time time but like I do think we we absolutely Center and we had this guy come up to us at the end like should you say yeah say and this guy comes up to us and go don't like freak out now or anything um but we're checking because we genuinely think this was one of the fastest of all time yeah like fastest soap boxes ever he thought we hit the world record run right there and then and they cuz they had to check them by the millisecond yeah and we were a fraction of a second off being the fastest ever 1 18 of a second something something ridiculous like that and uh so I think we were either the second or the third fastest of all time yeah there were rumors at the end of the day and I don't know whether it was Chip just winding us up being like the last car of the day was slightly faster yeah they they yeah they said something like the last car of the day actually broke the world record so if that is true we're the third fastest of all time if not we are the second fastest of all time to go down that track and we rather the second of the first fastest of this year's event which is just just the coolest thing ever like we to be fair have also like we couldn't have picked a design that was Better Built For Speed I mean it's so people were saying this is this is aerodynamic and I was thinking it is but I don't think it's going to make that much of a difference in this yeah scenario and whether it did or not or whether it was just the fact that you didn't break much yeah I think that was it it was quite heavy it was heavy as well you had one of the heavy ones so at the start you can tell this was one of the things we were saying we should have got two people cuz we only got Jake to shove us at the start yeah and when when you start off just going down the ramp it took us a while to pick up speed if we had sort of been shoved and started at a really good pace and kept it at that pace I genely think we could have built the record but I'm I want to do it again same that's why I wanted to keep that cuz we could have just modified that and send it down we know that's a winning formula yeah make it into a submarine or something yeah exactly that thing works but Red Bull like they they we had such a great time with them they did so much for us and we were so grateful and we were speaking see nothing guaranteed and stuff um but they were saying there's a potential for us to come back and maybe do the one that you know you launch off a ramp and you're like 10 m up whatever and you've got to Glide over water as far as possible there and there are loads of other sort of like cool Red Bull events and stuff to do so um yeah I think we make this a thing if we can do just more of this stuff yeah I loved it it was genuinely one of the best things I've ever done I think yeah and there's a the the the only annoying thing is there's so much footage it's going to take a while to get the video together because Red Bull have Clips we have clips they've sent us a hard driver clipse I've got stuff on my phone B has stuff on his phone Jake has stuff on his phone so we'll gather it all together but when the video comes out I think it'll be such a good one because so good the whole experience was just the coolest thing ever and we couldn't be more grateful to Red Bull for that the perfect run at the end we just ended it so perfectly the whole experience I think yeah it couldn't have gone better afterwards I so cool yeah I couldn't get the helmet off though we got to the very end I could not figure out how to unclip the helmet so I did the interview with a helmet on yeah they could not hear thing as well you hear me go oh the atmosphere was electric and I know he said the electric thing and then we um yeah we Kenny from South Park hanging out with us we to I finally I got someone to take my helmet off we drove the soap box down to the graveyard thing but they said they weren't going to break it we put it to one side it might be broken and then we had to run up the hill because we had to get on the live stream to do an interview straight afterwards yeah and oh my God you realize how far we came down Running Up That thing that it was 400 to 500 M back up a relatively Steep Hill on a very hot day we were exhausted from the day before and uh being out the night before and having the race and all that kind of stuff and in boiler suits and it was a hot day boiling I got so sweaty at the top we got to the top and we were like that was just a thoroughly unenjoyable experience but it was cool cuz there I heard I don't I think I told you at the time I heard a kid as we ran past he was like oh my God racers felt like an F1 driver in that moment yeah that really went straight to my head yeah I bet we felt a lot cooler than we probably looked just running around in boiler suits and I'm my Red Bull cap on we had shades on surprised he hasn't got that red bull cap on today by the way that thing you're going to have to peel that off his dead body I've been wearing it so much lady just cuz I I love it it's good for green screen stuff that is the one thing I I might start wearing cuts out the wispy hair yeah it cuts out the wispy hair which kind of ruin the illusion I've got that real issue whereas when you wear a cap it's like a smooth round thing and the green screen just looks much better I see my editors have all been like wear a cap as often as possible oh so they even so they tell you what to do huh you're not Char they do interesting well I keep my editors locked away and then I give them footage and they're like please I want to see my family please share an editor now no King yeah we do shout out king great honestly fantastic worker his work ethic he sent me a video and like couple hours later he was like actually here's a V2 I watched it back and I I could see some improvements I was like kind of mentality and he's not been editing for long either yeah so he's I think all selft talk cow's amazing as well they're both just great honestly yeah people listening a fascinated here about how much we love our tives yeah let's get back to the Red Bull so box race so then we did our interview at the very top which is when cuz we went down first so we were Then followed by all the other creators who did the race um we didn't really get to see them at the time cuz we were running up the the bloody Hill but um we got to the top they all slowly joined us did their interview and then it got revealed the scores so there were different categories we were like ranked on or scored on the first being performance and I I'm pretty sure the style of the cart comes into that as well yeah and so we what did we get like what was it 20 22 it was really bad 40 terrible score we got like a seven a six a three and a five something like that whoever gave us a three what's wrong with you huh they were grumpy though cuz I think chip and frezy got something like 39 and the guy that person gave them a nine apparently they were really mean scoring the whole time that's crazy but chip and fzy knew about the performance thing which we I know how they knew about that we had no idea chip and freezy raced as a box of 20 chicken McNuggets yeah and they brought like homemade barbecue sauce and just on each other yeah pry just poured it all over them it was good like as performances go that's like the best thing you can do yeah so they got a really great score like almost perfect just one guy dropped a mark on it um 39 out 40 but I feel like I feel like giving us a three was really harsh I know our performance wasn't great but the music was very fitting yeah and maybe we should have pretended we were on the moon with our jumping or something like walking like that he just had such a cool carard we had so little time to think about it yeah I feel like it was harsh though look at our car that was really cool yeah maybe we were also ranked harshly because we were the first creators to go down maybe maybe we would have got a better score if we were towards the end I don't know yeah maybe but um yeah we did really bad on that and then you get obviously score for your speed in finishing the race yeah which we smashed Everyone by like four four seconds or something or seven or eight yeah like seven or eight seconds Quicks first to second and the second fastest and I think Becky and pieace got a dnf finish either they hit a minute or they stopped completely yeah cuz they went over one of the jumps and then front end broke so the wheel wasn't really like or the front was touching the floor dragging across the floor so they just I felt bad for them they just ped all across but at least they got down in one piece that's the they were just in a pint glass yeah it was really cool and they had a they had a cool performance Becky poured pint on um pie which was funny um con and Jack had a cool performance they just had some Swagger about it like yeah it was cool oh yeah we got picked on the performance but they did struggle getting into the vehicle did they yeah CU it's really hard and narrow to get in um they got they everyone got all the way to the end by the way Colin Jack fell over at the end there thing just went on its side they they chose thinner Wheels I didn't think they were going to make it that far yeah they also had a really high center of gravity cuz their car was thin and quite tall yeah like if you looked at their car it looked like it wanted to fall over it was a bit like chitty chitty bang bang but like elongated yeah so they did really well to and they were drifting it as well it was drifting so they did really well to get to the bottom um but yeah we were like seven seconds quicker than seven or eight seconds quicker than the second fastest which was it chip and freezy or was it Con I think it might have been no chip and frezy was Heavy wasn't it to be fair so that would move um and then there was People's Choice which we said we won 49% and was those were those those three so I think the reason so we ended up coming third we came third out of the four I just think it wasn't like cuz we won two out of three categories you'd think we'd win but I think they gave they were sort of like weighted yeah so because we were so low on the performance us being ahead on the other two bits didn't pull us up enough I think it's really harsh I think it doesn't matter at all by the way I don't I don't care but I do think it's harsh that performance is weighted so heavily in comparison to like speed has got to be the most important thing yeah like it's a race I know that's that's the way we were looking at it that's because it's a race come on we were focus on the race as aspect obviously soap boxes isn't Formula 1 is supposed to be like a bit of fun cretive stuff which you do get um but yeah hard winning two out of three categories and winning the race comfortably well it was more like at in the moment when they were revealing who won out of us four I was thinking in my head oh we've definitely won yeah after winning we got like 50% of the votes for People's Choice so it was a landslide Victory they said and a landslide Victory on the speed so I was thinking we have smashed those two things so surely we've gained loads of points for that yeah and we came third I was like I'm actually quite shocked by that I in my head I was thinking oh my God we've won yeah but um no it was so means anything like there's I don't there's nothing for it yeah I was just surprised but genuinely so it was so good yeah it was it was definitely definitely one of the best things I've ever done I was so glad that we did it I can't wait for the proper video to come out and have it all like a documentary s of documented archive just being like Oh I can look back at that video that was a banger yeah oh it was it was really good um then we stuck around and watched some public racing um and yeah there was it was it was nice there was a nice like area where you could get food and stuff and the worms showed up oh yeah lots of the patreon supporters a couple of N and non patreon people showed up lots of podcast people I'm guessing everyone there was podcast listeners because I didn't really put it on any platform no I think it it was all podcast we spoken about on the on on the podcast and in the patreon group chat quite a lot yeah and that was pretty much it so thank you well regardless if it's yeah thank you guys for coming along cuz it was so nice speaking to everyone great really great to have your support um yeah and yeah you guys were there for most of the day just like stood by our um what do you call it Soap Box stood by our Soap Box we were coming over when we could to say hi and stuff yeah everyone got photos we oh my goodness quite a lot of people wanted us to draw tattoos for them oh dear and we are not artistic no we're close yeah I'm a letter away but I not draw sa in my life and I was like the only thing I could think of was the rocket emoji yeah that was pretty good to be fair I was trying to draw them but getting the three little things at the bottom and the fire I was like I was like show this to your artist and they'll get what I'm trying to draw yeah they'll understand I mean I just ended up drawing flowers CU it's the easiest thing to draw it's got nothing to do with me a lot of art what just happened you just got bored of your own conversation I just yawned I was hoping you take it off me really quickly cuz I yawned no someone asked for a cameo once where they were like can you draw something for us to do a tattoo and I did a a ringed planet oh nice and oh my goodness trying to get cuz obviously if you put the circle there first the ring that goes in front like cuts through lines and it looks crap so you've kind of got to start with the ring but obviously just as the ring curves back around you have to stop and then you have to imagine where the sphere is going to be and oh my goodness I burnt through about half this notebook trying to get one that just looks semi-reasonable so whoever invented Saturn fair enough yeah exactly that must have been difficult and Uranus yep that's also ringed yeah um many too many rings yeah I've got a ring do you oh yeah and that weekend batch proposed to me so I said yes no I'm talking about my ass what anyway um it was it was a different kind of proposition to the one you were thinking of yours is way cuter than mine and I said no oh hell no I just got that that's disgusting cuz I was like on Saturday night we were just chilling we were like go we're exhausted yeah and I was like do you want to just stay around and Bach was like yeah so we played fornite and watch scary movies yeah he took me to get sushi again yeah we went to sticks and Sushi again but I was like I kind of want to make more videos but we were just so tired yeah I it was too late you just what you made me watch horror stuff we we watched a bunch of scary videos on YouTube like real ghost sightings and short horror movies and I was like I've wanted to do videos like that with you ages I was like then was the perfect time but our energy was just shock yeah we'll do it we'll definitely do it another time though CU people just love that love that horror game yeah is entertaining to watch other people get scared people don't want to watch you have fun they want to watch you cringe and be scared people enjoyed us having fun of Minecraft true but you were scared of I died like five six times I'm not very good clearly everyone's making fun of me did I die once I didn't I don't think no but your spirit died at one point hell no my spirit my spirit was always my spirit were through the roof um when I was getting attacked by Leona Lewis and I was hiding in the house turns out Leona Lewis can't go in water so I should have just gone in water I saw that comment yeah thanks for that thanks for the comment I'm actually going to use that logic and I I already want to film episode three right now do you yeah it was so fun we'll do it this week actually it's so fun like I enjoy playing it we're just loading up M fil although he needs a he needs a setup can we can we tell this boy to put some money towards a proper setup he plays on his PlayStation so we have to play Bedrock Edition so I can't use my nice shaders that make the waters and everything look clean and all the like graphics and stuff you know the like it's T's water we're keeping it the graphics upgrades are insane look just just a bit enjoy a humble bit of like Minecraft where it's nostalgic not everything has to be polished yeah okay fine um but no it was it was really good fun and it is it is I do love that we can just do that kind of stuff and just play a game and it would be fun yeah um we can just like high five when we want yeah anyway um back to let's go back in time to um the end of the race he wet himself no he didn't he didn't no he didn't but um I just want to make sure that we covered everything no because we didn't speak about um the stunt the stunts oh yeah you should tell them about the stunt they they just flung on you they didn't tell you until yeah they didn't tell me about this before and they made me sign my rights away yeah and it it was they had already Ked off the live stream so you just had to do it yeah um we basically batch got nice one he got pulled aside and they were like oh is the driver we're testing your reflexes yeah and what did they do they so she dropped a ruler and you just had to grab the ruler um as soon as she dropped it and just see how many centimeters you let drop to judge your reaction time I didn't do I think I came second actually nice but on the practice I failed uh so I was like oh that was nice and peaceful and fun I wonder what mine's going to be and they get me and they they I put this heart monitor on and I was like what they put this heart monitor on me put me in the middle of this cage and this dude called like Douglas or something comes up in this massive dirt bike and just goes like I'll lie down in the middle and I was like I know exactly where this is going got R to me and Jack just start planking and he's sort of in this giant he giant of a man I swear he's like 6'4 in this massive dirt bike and he's sort of there like on one wheel bouncing the like wheel like an inch from my head and I'm like if he just if anything misjudges he crushes my skull yeah like we we we lose one of the Bright Young talents of this generation and you as well wait what do you mean well they'd get Jack and you oh yeah yeah good old Jack and then then he was doing like wheelies around your head like just driving past full speed past his head yeah it was giving me the E actually see lie down there insane and I was just like well I'm playing it cool cuz that's like the name of the game it'd be cringe if I got up and I mean they they even said that if you get up you're at risk of just getting your head whacked cuz he's like an inch within your head so if you move it until you die yeah um and for like a minute he just did this and bounced around and yeah you were down there for a hot minute yeah we were there for ages just getting driven around I thought oh this is just getting this is just cruel now yeah I mean the poor boy is just lying there with a boner by the way uh because he gets that happens when he gets scared just why you think I keep getting you for horror games oh no i h on a Bo so he's just doing circling circling circling around Arthur on the floor it just I just felt a bit sorry for him in the end yeah uh so that was terrifying but good F night you know I'm up for anything I did realized the other day I'm just one of his friends who's just up for thing yeah you are actually someone could be like hey we're going to sit inside and watch movies tonight I be like fine or they can be like come on man we're robbing a bank I'm like cool they'll be like come on going glamping for the weekend do you is that real though if I said or okay let's go and watch the Euros tonight fine let's do it England England this is the last night of the group stage and all of a sudden the mood is really dead because we're just through now we've not played well either it's been pathetic there I said it and Harry Kane when you finally come on this podcast I've got some strong words to have with you mine mine Reserve is Gareth Southgate and not bringing BR and not playing kobby Mayu okay sorry Harry Kane actually way he's playing phenomenally to be not as if we're missing him but I'm mad at you Southgate yeah Italy um not playing too bad oh my goodness you're Italian did you watch the game last night and they scored the 90th plus eight to go through 98th minute it was the draw against Croatia oh that was heartbreaking poor the thing is they probably would have gone through anyway as one of the people third but um it's nice to confirm it you know yeah those moments of elation just so hard I think Italy just like a decent Striker anyway we won't bore you with football because a lot of people probably don't care about football yeah um but yeah I mean I'm getting into F1 now yes you are you watch drive to survive right yeah I've been watching drive to surv I need to get on that I really want to watch that um and hence why the Red Bull so box race I was really in I was really in my element Because You Loved does it make you love Red Bull as well the driver to survive does it follow a particular team it follows the mall and to be honest I haven't really got like a team I really um it's not like I really want to see this team win it's more people that you care about it's good to see Red Bull doing well but um I like Lando do you yeah you're Lando Norris enjoyer I'm a Lando enjoyer I like them all to be fair from what I've seen I like I get I like Char all oh cuz he kind he kind of looks like Charles mclair uh yeah I get uh Lando Norris a lot people always say like L nor I'm not sure about that boy and uh obviously like V stappen red the Red Bull goat what batch V stappen high five what does that even mean batch for steppen me batch for steppen batch for steppen me instead of Max for Sten batch for Sten it's one of the only times that batch really goes into anything batch for Sten what do people nickname you at school get tuna boy cuz I've brought in tuna fish boy uh right I was going duckling I was going for more names like name related like okay because I was oh name related I was I was called nothing I was just called Arthur I don't know why I said it like that I was called Nothing me yeah had no friends at school no I didn't really people would say ice as a joke ice yeah I just I didn't like not having a cool nickname name my sister one of my sisters calls me Izzy that's really cringe and feminine yo she watches these which is fine yo she watches these apologize down the lens right now I apologize nothing cuz it is it was true it was my truly held opinion and you should never apologize for being yourself sometimes she calls me Elizabeth as well what and I don't really know where she got that from she started that was a good what what yeah she watches it where she works as she was working she'll have it on Gizzy by the way I didn't get cancelled for what Sunday came out where I waterboarded Chris I haven't watched that and I was seriously worried I was genuinely like I thought you know just some people on the internet can be real yeah cuz they might be like oh you're making fun of water boarding people actually die from water boarding that's not what I exactly what I meant oh because okay you can't waterboard Chris because he doesn't like water and some people have been drowned before no okay of course because because you shouldn't do water boarding because it's like saying this is something you should it's really on impressionable fans and they'll be like okay I'm going to water board my mom tonight right maybe maybe that was like oh you shouldn't do that on to an impression I'm going to cancel you right now in that case um but no I I I just thought people would be like oh that was so mean of him they're not friends like just you know when you don't really know I mean obviously anyone who's seen Chris and videos knows how much abuse he puts me through I mean that guy abuse shs down on my neck like there's no tomorrow he's just I I'll just be chilling mid shootting he'll just go on my traps I mean granted they're juicy like they're nice muscular defined um have you ever thought you might just be a vampire I don't know hiding in plain sight you know you've got two Pierce marks right there you getting sucked by you've got really garlicky breath so I don't think I could be a a vampire cuz otherwise let's not start rumors like that otherwise I'd run there's not start rumors like that yeah my breath smells like daisies rainbows fairy tales I'm always chewing gum you are always chewing gum you're a real gum chewer yeah it Bo it boosts your confidence it's like putting a pair of sunglasses on I'm glad you don't do it on the podcast that would be the most annoying thing to listen to I have done it before but I just tuck it into my teeth like snz you don't mean that it's gum you don't mean that it's gum it's just weird you don't mean that it's gum gum started freaking out you know we were speaking about eggs the other day when you you're Midway through eating heads and you're like wait up yeah that's a period something ain't right that's a menstrual cycle raor and you're like yeah well that weirdly makes me like it more it's more than I knew you were a feminist me too come on yeah um we do like to bring awareness to the fact that women exist and have Cycles cuz I I I mentioned menstrual cycles all the time and I in one of my YouTube videos I was like I've got to stop saying menstrual cycles drop a comment if you think I should stop saying menual cycle everyone's like no and someone's like no it actually feels kind of feminist in a weird way cuz you're bringing light to the fact of cuz not everyone knows that women have I think everyone knows women have periods I found out 3 days ago watching your video you thought they had penis what I just thought they merely existed they merely exist in a in a realm Between Heaven and Hell where somewhere I love doesn't exist what the hell is this guy talking about women only exist in heaven women are heaven on Earth in my opinion how does that song Go heaven heaven for what it's worth women are heaven on Earth women are heaven on Earth brother in Christ you don't know what you're talking about right now I feel like we're getting on to Serious brain rot have you got anything else this is a rare batch prepared actually been praying preparing a lot um all of the episodes lately we've actually yeah hence why the quality's increased um no you just you do stuff in a different way I like like reading and talking reading well next episode's prepared by by Arthur and we'll be filming this directly after this one yeah we're doing complet transparency cuz batch is way on holiday and I'm going to be honest because I'm not I've not brought a spare pair of clothes anyway yeah me neither I don't want to hear no comments like why is he wearing that shirt again well they should be comenting CU alth this on an episode before quite frankly Arthur is either can I just say by the way I predicted what you were going to be wearing on the Red Bull meal I said Arthur will turn up in Black corduroy shorts um and a cream beige top shirt either worn as an overshirt with a white t-shirt underneath or just a shirt that's exactly what you were that's true I mean I have two other pairs of shorts I had a black like pair that were like had textured but the waistband thing snapped hard to find a good pair of shorts and then I had a nice like cream beige pair yeah um but they were just like I don't know linen and just ended up being a bit too and take it from a guy a sleepover with him he doesn't take them off he showers in them he goes me to take them off he was like take them off take them off take them off and I was like leave me alone yeah I was like please wash please wash you were just misreading me I wasn't saying take them off I was like please wash please wash anyway I I got the um I went into the patreon chat o uh little plug if you want to join the patreon go ahead there's a chat you get early access to episodes they get uploaded all the time and Bullies me in it yeah I do speak in there a fair amount um and I said to them we're filming two pods today can you guys reply to this message with any questions you have about the Red Bull Soapbox race we're going to be doing a whole episode on it uh because I thought there might be you know they might want to know more information on how it was built or how we were feeling and stuff and we could just give us some insight to that we've just explained the day how cool it was blah blah blah but they want to know the BTS let's see how insightful their questions can be okay did you hurt your nose that's [ __ ] rude no I didn't that obviously pointed at you no I didn't to be fair I did we had said in an episode prior that there was no foam and we are going to smash our faces in they put foam in we had good helmets on but we didn't actually crash so yeah we didn't crash so although his coxic bone is in pain yeah my coxics I'm absolutely fine because I'm not weak that's your tailbone um may ask for us highly evolved Apes that was from Brooke by the way I'll say names shout outs May says how SL why did you decide to build a rocket why I guess cuz it's very on brand for us have a look at our mugs yep yeah I mean we're just we're were're a Spacey themed podcast for no apparent reason we genely I'm sure we said in the earlier episodes we had no plans to be themed and bats just randomly one day went let's just make it space themed I just think it's cool yeah me I just think we both think it's cool we do we just need a cool set I think most of the things we do is because we think oh that's cool like the Soap Box we thought oh it'd be cool if we did a a ship or a ufi yeah just cuz it just cuz it's funny someone actually messaged in for the next one I've got like the submissions from the normal submissions page which everyone can enter just go to our any of our socials at Bach and arur and in the link there's like a a link tree and one of them is the submissions form and they were like what is your target audience because I can't really figure it out and I'm studying media at the moment target audience is such a big thing and I was like we don't have one we just come on talk about whatever we find interesting yeah and just hope that some people agree yeah and the people who do listen are actually very um diverse yeah and intelligent and cool and good looking and all this yeah um so yeah no um yeah and it's weird because we're not sitting there going oh let's talk about this to appeal to this audience which I think is I mean somehow it works so thank you guys for tuning into thanks cuz I think if you analyzed it in like a media class and it was like oh one minute you're doing brain rot meme references and the next you're talking about s men and then the next we're talking about Greek philosophy and the next one like Roman Parables and then religion they'd be like well someone's going to listen to the one episode like it and then not like the rest yeah but for some reason people just like listening to it all really I think we just decided that we're just going to do what we want like yeah whatever we enjoy yeah like whatever we enjoy and whatever we F feel like talking about we're just going to do it because if you want to enjoy something you've like if you want this if we want this podcast to continue we've got to enjoy it and if we're looking at it tactically like Oh Let's do an episode on this so we can boost our audience in this demographic it will start to feel like a like a real job well like you know I've heard from other people that do podcasts that their producers will be like today you're having this guest on and they're like well I've never watched the show they're on or Never follow them don't care about the story but I've got to do it's nice that we kind of have a just able to just go oh whatever and I do think the stuff we talk about is interesting broadly like if you're someone who like whenever we meet or speak to anyone who watches the podcast they're always like oh I love like these types of interesting discussions I feel like if you have a generally curious mind yeah like if if people who are listening to this and enjoy it are going to be similar to us in that respect and they you know even if they don't have a an interest in any of the particular like they might be like oh I love hearing about religion I'm a curious person but they don't care about Greek philosophy yeah or anything when we speak about the ship of thesis they're still like oh it's an interesting thought like it's an interesting thought so if you're one of those types of people like us then all that kind of stuff is interesting I guess thus our our demographic is people who just have similar interests to us yeah or like have a similar outlook on life or yeah that's the thing it's not even like it's just it's the broad value of curiosity I think who just like they like to laugh they like a bit of Comedy cuz we even get people who disagree with us and they're like oh I'm religious I completely disagree with this all but it was so interesting to listen to and so they're not listening because we're speaking about things that they find um they agree with or they enjoy you know but they're going like oh like I like the way these topics are approached or the way this is discussed and yeah so yeah hopefully we'll try and keep that up um hey no way we're going to brain Rock 24/7 after here or no anyway um Connie asked what was your top speed we don't actually know but what did you think it was 30 well when we passed we passed the speed gate at what will be one of the fastest points and that was 30 okay mil K yeah km pH um Leia says do you think you were going to make it to the Finish Line did you think you were going to make it to the Finish Line I genuinely um did not think we were going to make it past the chicane to be honest yeah cuz I didn't realize the course was as wide as it was however the as narrow as it was you mean actually yeah yes and no the thing is it's like driving a car when you're in a car it looks like you're you're bigger than the road but actually you can fit in much smaller of a gap than you expect yourself to be able to and so when you're actually in the soap box when we were doing the chicane in my head I thought we're going to catch one of the hay bals and go flying but actually although it was actually pretty close watching it back it felt like I had enough room to get round and stuff well two hay bals we did fully slic through well yeah if the wings were like flat fronted we would have we could have just spun out flown but because the wings were just like yeah we the first one and then the second one we through that yeah um but in no I didn't think we were going to make it down in one piece to be honest I thought either we'd get to the end and there' be damage or we'd fall over at the end or we just wouldn't make it to the end cuz it's not a like it more often than not you don't make it to the end yeah so I thought statistically I didn't I didn't think we were going to make it to the end so I was surprised were you or not it's so funny because at the start you're like I really don't know but be when you're going down it's so fast and you've got to think a lot like yeah I was just constantly thinking like just monitoring whether we were going too fast or not to be like bring the speed down ever so slightly and it's everything's happening so fast you don't have time to think oh are we going to make it like any hypotheticals it's just uh pull the break break on break off break off oh my goodness are we going to make this corner are we going to too fast at how are we doing like all this kind of stuff's rushing through your head I didn't even think about it I was no so yeah I had no thoughts in my head either I think we were just on reflex at that point yeah because every yeah like Arthur said everything's coming at you so quick like before the chane I thought I had enough time to put my hand up and wave and I was like [ __ ] no I don't yeah so that's when I came back onto the wheel and did that so we really don't have much time in that thing um then Phoenix asks what was the hardest and easiest part of the creative process oh hard po was coming up with an idea for what we wanted to do as the car because we took ages like they were asking us for the design for so long and we were like we really don't know it is hard when you can do literally anything it's like the classic situation where you've got too much Choice yeah so you can't make a decision and neither necessarily creative creative types yeah so we and also it's it's difficult as well when there's two people because obviously if one person wants to do something we we agreed yeah we we didn't have any friction on what we wanted to do we because we both didn't really have an idea but you've got to make sure that what one person comes up with the other person's happy to do um but I think from the go we just suggested either a space shuttle or UFO we were both happy with those two ideas and then we had a look at some pictures and we thought okay let's go for a space sh that was it yeah so I think that um it was hard in the beginning but to to be honest the decision process was pretty easy for us in the end I do think the hardest part although that was hard I think what was harder for us was probably um building the chassis don't you think it was harder than the woodwork yeah that's probably true cuz we didn't have any engineer assistance with the underly car yeah the actual chassis itself we just had bits like we didn't have instructions for half of it we were in in a big Warehouse with just a bunch of nuts bolts rods	testing your reflexes yeah and what did they do they so she dropped a ruler and you just had to grab the ruler um as soon as she dropped it and just see how many centimeters you let drop to judge your reaction time I didn't do I think I came second actually nice but on the practice I failed uh so I was like oh that was nice and peaceful and fun I wonder what mine's going to be and they get me and they they I put this heart monitor on and I was like what they put this heart monitor on me put me in the middle of this cage and this dude called like Douglas or something comes up in this massive dirt bike and just goes like I'll lie down in the middle and I was like I know exactly where this is going got R to me and Jack just start planking and he's sort of in this giant he giant of a man I swear he's like 6'4 in this massive dirt bike and he's sort of there like on one wheel bouncing the like wheel like an inch from my head and I'm like if he just if anything misjudges he crushes my skull yeah like we we we lose one of the Bright Young talents of this generation and you as well wait what do you mean well they'd get Jack and you oh yeah yeah good old Jack and then	8	6	4	testing your reflexes yeah and what did they do they so she dropped a ruler and you just had to grab the ruler um as soon as she dropped it and just see how many centimeters you let drop to judge your reaction time I didn't do I think I came second actually nice but on the practice I failed uh so I was like oh that was nice and peaceful and fun I wonder what mine's going to be and they get me and they they I put this heart monitor on and I was like what they put this heart monitor on me put me in the middle of this cage and this dude called like Douglas or something comes up in this massive dirt bike and just goes like I'll lie down in the middle and I was like I know exactly where this is going got R to me and Jack just start planking and he's sort of in this giant he giant of a man I swear he's like 6'4 in this massive dirt bike and he's sort of there like on one wheel bouncing the like wheel like an inch from my head and I'm like if he just if anything misjudges he crushes my skull yeah like we we we lose one of the Bright Young talents of this generation and you as well wait what do you mean well they'd get Jack and you oh yeah yeah good old Jack and then	wait what do you mean	2,8,-2	3,4,2	2	8	-2	3	4	2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0g_xJvKEb8	4,108	-0g_xJvKEb8	2024-06-27 00:00:00	[Music] what's up everybody welcome back to episode 14 of the batch and Arthur podcast yay go thanks for joining everyone we have something to reveal yes we do I know you guys don't like it when Arthur has his mug on the couch because he tends to drop things don't you never dropped anything actually okay you dropped that th done remember that well you might have noticed I also have my mug on the sofa mhm wondering why who wants to know why should we tell them something to do with one like equals one Lara maybe something to do with that exactly you guys ready see what you reveal go way for audio listeners we have white mugs with our little cartoon characters on them that's right little will I didn't want to Cheers you and I've got my little handsome space guy come on yeah Lara surprised us with these this is a gift um mine shatterproof as well apparently oh it's not sh yeah he's got a plastic mug because we know what he's like I've sippy C the audio listeners actually little rubber cppy cup with two handles well actually when Arthur drinks from a mug show them how you do it I'll I'll commentate for this he uses two hands so he grabs on the like handle and then he grabs the other hand I drink everything with two hands especially tea and Pints yeah I don't really know what is there a reason for that or not safety I guess twice as balanced is that really if one arm stops working the other one's there as a fail safe well there you go that's why he does it guys so it makes sense all after all yeah um speaking of batch and Arthur this podcast design right here yeah this has been plasted on something recently what our rocket ship oh yeah guys we just got back from the Red Bull Soap Box race and we're alive 2024 we genuinely were not sure we were going to survive no I was but we did really scared we we turned up we got to see other people's cards um and there was basically two things going on so there's like a public race and then the Creator race was like a separate thing which is streamed on YouTube If you go on Red Bull's um YouTube channel and you go on under the live tab you can actually watch the full thing yeah we were like a half time race yeah it was Bas half time show yeah there was a few people who weren't happy about the Creator's uh racing cuz they thought we were mixed in with the public but it's like a whole separate thing like we can't win any awards over the public or anything like that yeah um but but we won the hearts of the public come on yeah we did win the hearts of the public there was a a couple of things that you were like rated on as creators and one of them was People's Choice and we got a landslide victory of 44% yeah it actually ended up on 49% 50% out of four teams we got 49 everyone rounds 49 thank you to everyone who voted for us we one of four teams but we're up against chip and freezy who have a big loving audience Becky and pieace who audience and then con from the siden huge loving audience and the guy who's our cameraman on the train video the siden that's right Jack was there as well went to with con they had cool out but uh we we got to Ali p uh that's my first time there you've been there before actually I think we should start the day before okay let's let's reel that [ __ ] back because we had another sleepover kind of yeah we did have another let's just say oh no we didn't really a hotel yeah we did not have a sleepover but what did we do where did we first meet we we met at the we met at the hotel at the hotel dropped our bags off Adam was there he's the Red Bull guy that was been looking after us and he took all the creators out to dinner yeah we to find the tell first yeah chopped a pint um both hands come on yeah then we got in a taxi we went to dinner we had a create a dinner um what did you eat pizza yeah I had a really really hot hot pizza but the thing I was enjoying the most was the football we had a massive screen in front of us oh yeah cuz France were playing Netherlands NE scen I felt kind of harsh cuz the the table was positioned in a way that only half of us could see the football and the other half were just watching us watching football yeah but no he they were watching a react video basically they got to see us live reacting In the Flesh um but the meal was really good the food was really good uh Jake was struggling Jake the guy works with um Arthur they both got the same Pizza he was struggling with the heat yeah he was [ __ ] [ __ ] struggling with the Pint as well got two pints steep was steaming no cuz he was so in denial Jake yeah Jake had a couple pints and he was gone we were like you are drunk he like I am not drunk and he was getting angry mad I'm not even drunk he's I haven't even done anything later he's doing karaoke so that's belting out karaoke with his phone to the to the mic with with voice note on my God it's so that was you singing those Tunes to someone yeah we yeah CU you've been to a place before should we say the name of the place or not I actually I don't remember it anyway okay we went to this place anyway Arthur's been there before it's um like a karaoke bar with uh like an arcade and bowling and there's a dance floor and like a bar and stuff like that yeah very good fun we all went there did some karaoke went there for Arthur Hill's birthday that's how I found out about it what a place it is a cool place actually um yeah did a bit of karaoke we were in there for a couple hours doing karaoke in the end yeah um belting at tunes by the way batch can sing No Arthur can sing yeah but I think people would assume that from but that goes without saying no but but Frank Sinatra came on and oh my goodness batch was just cooking that thing anyone can sing Frank arra welcome back Frank Sinatra he died and this is him reborn wasn't wasn't he heavily involved with the mafia Frank Sinatra so are you you're a quter Italian that's true but I can't admit that no not legally anyway oops they're going to come and get me try and come and get me watch me beat beat you all up actually I shouldn't say what if they do don't come and get me please I was just kidding I've got nothing to do with him he lives on 32 Italian back street oh my god that actually is my house number H what don't say that it's not that's my apartment number as well no we you're not finding out where we live um I'm going to move in with Arthur anyway we moved in together on Minecraft yeah sort of anyway back to karaoke we had fun at karaoke then we went home we didn't get back till 3:00 a.m. silly move because we had to be up early yeah we had it well not that early we had 10: a.m. taxi picks up yeah but we met at breakfast at 9:30 it was the most romantic breakfast of my life yeah um and then stayed at the Hilton Red Bull of class they put us in there they also like what a lovely experience not only did they take us to dinner they they paid for karaoke and everything like that they covered everything shout out to Red Ball I'm going to crack One open right now and they're actually delicious all these colored red balls my actual favorite is the summer edition you guys should actually try this this is not sponsored but I'm just saying this is not even the first thing I I did I went to salburg in Austria and did some Red Bull salburg video shooting with Chris MD um we did like penal sh outs in games with mads bistrup for their YouTube channel and then did a video in it was the the final one of christed uh every time you beat a Defender the defender gets upgraded that's right yeah and we start off with like Harry R Shaw as the worst Defender when all the way up to Champions League mads bistr who fantastic player I mean yeah you realize how like when you watch t uh football on TV you think oh I could do that yeah but then if you see a actual Pro in real life yeah like that makes sense why you went pro now actually we need to do more charity so that was fun that was fun there are a lot going on it's just timings cuz there's so many things going on during summer and that's usually when charity matches go down yeah but you got to work in the schedules either you're away or I'm away or there's a brand trip or something has to be submitted in time was crazy yeah but um no I'm sure we're going to do a lot more stuff with Red Bull as well so that's exciting um but anyway we then got the taxi to Alex Alexandra Palace Ali pal come on and um I've only just realized that's why it's Ali P really yeah I just thought that Ali P was the hill and Alexandre Palace was no way Ali now I've just heard it okay that's Ali P right anyway U you almost did a off the TV intro that right right so then we uh we got into the race so no we got into the Zone where the race was going on yeah and we got to have a little scout out all the public submitted soap boxes some really cool stuff in there yeah although there was one weird one because we rock up and there are like four girls gathered around water is essentially a double bed one girl just tucked up and you back like oh this is cool and she was like yeah it's really cozy get in we were like no I I ain't doing all that I'm sure though that you know that wasn't actually her like lying in it yeah I know you could tell something was weird under the covers but I was not getting involved what what what the hell um oh you can't see my soundboard I've got to pull this back so I can soundboard here yeah he hasn't got a soundboard yet thank goodness although I should no they all see the comments by the way Lara and Arthur see the comments and Lara even said into the group chat she was like I think we need to get bat of soundboard because of all the comments she sent me a message being like listen we've got one purchase a year we can authorize either we get cool mugs or batch gets a soundboard and I was like mugs mugs oh hell no I just think it's so much funnier when you do it yourself and go to I do think so but this is going to get worn down and eventually there's going to be a Hole uh oh audio listeners don't know what I'm doing I I just I pretend there's a soundboard and I just push the sof and make my I do it as well I do it in real life I'll be speaking to people when I'm BR but it doesn't make his much sense in real life just in a conversation he's just air poking stuff as he goes brh you know what's so funny as well I showed batch this someone one of you guys one of our listeners because cuz I you do it quite a lot but I do it all the time at you do the what yeah what that thing someone did a Tik Tok called whatting people in public so she goes into this petrol station goes to pay she goes like how much is that and he goes like Oh 1350 and she just goes what loud so loud just yells it in this man's face and everyone was like bad bad you guys have to recreate this it was so funny yeah and then Arthur was like we've got to do this we've got I don't know if I have the like what is it um social confidence to do that I'd be able to do it not yell it I thought it was a bit rude though the loud yelling not in a bad I'm not criticizing you I just able to do that like that myself I'd be like what I think sorry you got no no soup of the day what what when you have a camera on you though that you get a new found confidence in public like I found no no no in general I don't know if you agree with this in like a sidan video I Feel Like rules don't apply like social rules then don't apply cuz you've got a camer on you and you can do what you want whatever you want yeah I've only recently started being able to finally find it within myself to Vlog like when we were at wagas I was like this is actually fine yeah whereas before IID look at people vlogging in public and I go I admire you a lot cuz I can never do that it helps having people around you yeah although I feel like we do it with our phones it's a bit easier that's true whereas if people with their cameras out like facing their way I'm like oh my goodness I'd be so embarrassed yeah I think I would be as well especially if you got like a big rig on the end of that thing people are just admiring you your rig yeah both of them come on anyway um what speaking of the soap boxes that we saw um there was this one there was like these four guys like lying down chilling and they had this like Dome oh yeah which was kind of like a I guess like a spa you know the space shuttles that come down to earth it kind of looked a bit like that didn't yeah um like a landing module yeah like a landing module and they what did what did they make it off fiberglass or something yeah oh my God you could smell it from where we were still and they were like stick your head in that so we stuck it you stuck your head in first took a whiff and I did it afterwards oh my God dizzying genuinely dizzying I'm high I'm still high from that moment if anyone's ever been in like a a surfboard shop where they like make the surfboards yeah it smells like that it just smell exactly like that and they bizarre I just burped on I thought that was what that was that was disgusting hopefully that didn't get picked up apologize sorry guys sorry if you heard that cut that out anyway um it's not getting cut uh it they had to spend the whole run down in that thing so I think those guys are a little bit waved yeah I'm glad we I'm glad we were just a team of two and had two seats because I kind of felt bad some people that pushed the Soap Box thing down yeah like running after it for like 50 meters and it was a hot day that's true like um most people was like a team of four and two would push two would be in it I think that's standard isn't it to have two people in the so box and then a team that will push and Chase it down probably chase down chip and freezies yeah funny it was funny as well the way he was running because I guess it was like a it was like Looney Tunes the way he had his arms up like that chasing them down to be fair there are people I felt more bad for he talking about some of the injuries of the day oh my God and this is the thing like good gosh man we were already nervous then we were then we got to S see our um vehicle which they had made some mods to by the way so put me at ease a little bit they put foam in the place where my head would smash oh yeah so I felt about that yeah um they didn't they were going to cut out the wheel arches so we could turn more but they didn't I'm glad they I actually think that worked in our favor in it did um and they were actually slagging it off when it went up on towards stage they were speaking about it on Mike and they were like they can't turn properly they can't see over it and I was thinking oh no they're slagging off our thing they were talking about our buckets on the back and stuff I don't know if they were slagging off the buckets or just speaking about I just heard bucket like they're talking about ours oh my god um but it actually worked in favor and then there was screens up showing the first runs and it took a while it like an hour or two after we got there till the first run um but did you see the Sheep one no I didn't see any of the big ones but that's a bad one there was a sheep we I was watching a sheep go down um it was just before you did your stunt I think and it got all the way to the end and then at full speed flipped over onto their necks and I think it was one of them that broke their collarbone and it looked awful and after seeing that me and pieace was stood together we were like I we genuinely don't want to go down after seeing that he was [ __ ] it I was [ __ ] it um and then not only that I think other people must have like been bruised or whatever but the other big one that we heard about is we when we got to the start line we were there waiting for like 10 minutes and it was cuz the person who went down before us got knocked out so that's crazy yeah which I didn't see I don't think we'll ever see any footage of that but I don't know what vehicle it was or anything I just heard that they got knocked out that's why we were up there for ages yeah I mean it was going down insanely fast yeah it look I mean it looks quick on camera but it doesn't look nearly as quick as it feels yeah when you're in that thing oh my goodness and you can barely see in front of you you're bouncing all over the place you're hitting these jumps there are bits where there's foam that like splashes you in the face you have a few seconds of blindness yeah it's mental it it to best describe it definitely feels faster than sitting in a car at 60 MPH I'd say faster than it feels sitting in a car going 100 yeah cuz you're so exposed to we've never gone 100 I've been on the auto bar in Germany okay fair um but yeah you're exposed so it just feels so quick but we were quick insanely Qui insanely quick I think everyone we were the first of the creators to go up everyone thought we were going to just crash yeah or just be crap and slow there was so many comments so many DMs I got afterward was like [ __ ] fair enough before we even went down though before we get cuz we we will react we'll show you us going down yeah but I think we should tell them actually maybe should we hit play and then we'll pause at certain bits to be like explainer yeah I'll tell you what it plays it goes all the way through and then they do it in slow-mo afterwards we can on the slow-mo we'll do some explanation okay here we go batch and Arthur we had the podcast sticker oh it was such a good sticker on the side which was really cool and they zoomed in out loads for the YouTube video which is great yeah was all over the stream which was ideal although you cannot see podcast there until someone shads over it yeah someone's just shattering we were stood up there for ages genuinely yeah because someone had just been knocked out looking down this hill that was just so steep it's not funny but look at that thing that's so impressive it's so well built I can't believe it and I'm I'm gutted because I actually wanted to say to the we had a little bit of help from the Red Bull Engineers yeah I wanted to say thank you to them more just be like what did you see that that was really good yeah if anyone knows anything by any chance please pass on our thanks because yeah they they helped us hopefully they watched it and saw a great deal uh but we did do a lot I mean we did spend two full days building this thing and printing it up and stuff so yeah which you'll obviously see in the Vlog I'll talk about I'll talk about something later cuz there's um this was posted to Tik Tok and there's some funny comments on there really basically yeah basically calling us desk dwellers what so this is our performance so this performance we didn't know we no was supposed to do we we were told to choose a piece of music so we chose something like Space Odyssey style but we had no idea that meant we had to perform yeah and like like she's saying like there are points for performance and we knew about 10 minutes beforehand that this 30 second period of Music we'd have to Performance so we were like let's just do something simple gum shields in the mouth bow and get in and they were harsh they gave us a three but that also also counts to the way the vehicle looks so I think three is Harsh yeah but here we go performance score 22 poor but this is when we started racking up speed the steering was really weird as well cuz it changed as we got quicker and we were just bouncing as we went down like we'd hit a ramp and oh my goodness like almost front flipped that around we Whi around the corner and our our genuine one of our wings like clipped a ha Bell and just sliced through it that one sliced through the hay Bell I was thinking as we came down I swear I would have hit that side had I not hit that side and then nailed the braking and you said you could smell burnt rubber when you were breaking on that thing cuz I was like tickling the brakes like before a jump every now and then I do one all as we approached the chicane I pulled it yeah um but they said as we were going down in the commentary like yeah oh this feels fast usually you're hitting like low 20s here and it comes up on the side and we're hitting 30 km an hour yeah we were going and we were oh my goodness I'm glad you didn't break touch the break though we didn't need it yeah yeah I mean you did a did a little bit but I mean the others obviously touched it a lot more yeah I basically kept us at a speed where I was like this is very close to the line of like where we can make this corner at the speed because at the end of the day as a race and I was like we don't want to get up at the end and just be like oh like a couple of the soite boxes made it halfway down and just like stopped completely yeah and they were like having to like like I don't know like Shake It Forward it's so awkward like we did speak and we did say we'd actually rather crash going pretty quick than come to a grinding hle because it's just not good material yeah like we did it for Content wants to see that it's for a video we know representing creators at half time yeah so many people watching we've got a space shuttle that is designed at a velocity of 17,000 500 mph yeah so we were like you know hitting to be honest when they gave us those uh cuz we asked for special helmets that covered the face yeah when they gave me that I felt invincible and I thought oh [ __ ] it and we had gum Shields that we like ped poured into boiling water molded them before and molded them so we we felt pretty safe yeah I mean but still at 30 we weren but I don't have miles hour or kilm an hour I think it was mph I actually do really yeah but whatever it is at 30 like genuinely like just whacking your head against something solid is well I mean someone did get knocked out and broke it was terrifying yeah they they then do a slow-mo okay let's watch the slow-mo and we can break down exactly because I was thinking there was a point in the chicane when we really Whi round I was thinking why did that happen it was because the back right wheel wasn't on the ground when we were coming up to the chicane so when it touched the the ground it turned us into a corner so I was like [ __ ] and I had to spin it around one way and then back around the other way oh that's why we had that major wobble yeah and you can see it it's like it's cuz one of the wheels wasn't on the ground okay let's let's watch and like in the first one we'll try and go for the audio listeners kind of describe what we're seeing yeah so the first jump yeah we it was a heavy a heavy bit of Kit as well we definitely had one of the heavier ones it and it was like so we got through here the back that wheel wasn't on the ground so like had to correct it well the chicane of just having to go really quick left and then really quick right after yeah and then this pit we hit a bunch of stairs and bch basically grinds on the right hand of them it's cuz afterwards we had to be on the right hand side so I was thinking I can't turn directly after I'm going to have to turn on the ramp like the CL the the course is split in two with like steps on the left and straight on the right and we go down the steps but like half dangling off yeah you have a choice whether to do jumps or not obviously we were going to do the jumps cuz you get docked time um no they add time on if you go round cuz it's a bit unfair yeah but we you were just like let's head it yeah and after the first jump it it looks like we really jump around I don't know about you but in it it didn't feel that bad I I think I'm the exact opposite cuz I was going flying and my bum still Hur May was our positioning or cuz I was holding on to this when yeah I had nothing to hold on to I was just sat on a blue seat I re yeah I reckon that's what it was cuz it kept me like sort of planted you fix and you're in the center so with us like when when you go off the Jump the nose sort of goes down yeah it did and then the back col kicks up into the air and then slams down and because I'm at the back you really got you know I've got a lot further to fall and I just got whacked and my butt like when I sit on the sofa like no I can feel it bruised on I was actually un unscared I was absolutely fine yeah God it was um after that first jump though I got a lot more confidence in the run I was thinking oh that was fine I can we can do all the [ __ ] jumps yeah I just got full speed no I rate it I'm so glad you just sent it cuz and you I mean you didn't have a choice sending it yeah you just you na yeah exactly you could SL down but uh I they miked us did they mic you up CU they miked me up but I said nothing the whole run yeah why would you you couldn't because the thing is I was so focused I think it's because we went so quick because there's a Red Bull posted a video on their Tik Tok page where because they miked up chip and freezy and um it's off chip speaking to freezy and he's like on the brakes off the brakes okay we're going to go around this now and I think it's CU they were using the brakes and communicating about the brakes that they had stuff to say but because we were just you told me before you weren't going to touch the brake so I thought okay he's really not there's no point saying anything and you know whether it's a Brak or not so I was just thinking I'm just going to drive I was literally only thinking like I'm only going to slow us down if I feel like at this speed we either can't hit that jump properly or can't go around the corner and I was just tickling it and it was only at the end like I was like I've got to wait until we cross the finish line before I can break and I just Ram it and because it was a friction break it's like literally a metal bar that just pulls down onto both of the rear wheels it just starts smelling like burning rubber actually nailed that was so good though cuz we literally landed after that last jump we landed and I was like [ __ ] the Finish is right there and all I could hear was I just knew he pulled that thing so hard we came around the corner and didn't touch a single thing because he broke just in time yeah and the thing was untouched like the they said they it could get sent back to one of us so I send it to my house um I got I didn't tell you this yet I got a DM from someone saying I'm just about to watch your soap box get destroyed what no it's been graveyard we took it to a graveyard but we put it to one side no they told us we could have it uh yeah oh the guy might be lying I I pray he is cuz that's so harsh but I saw it in the DM request I was like [ __ ] surely not we should M message Adam but I think a big part of the reason we couldn't speak or do much else is because we weren't so full s we did that in 36 seconds chip and freezy were the second fastest in our group I think and they were 44 seconds yeah so we were we were literally seven or eight seconds I mean I don't exactly know what their milliseconds were but we were seven or eight seconds faster than them and I mean the difference like you watch them go down and they're sort of doing a decent speed but I thought them being go- karters you know they've got their Senor frogs they race every year yeah I was like they're going to bomb it too yeah but they kind of just played it relatively safe I mean good time time but like I do think we we absolutely Center and we had this guy come up to us at the end like should you say yeah say and this guy comes up to us and go don't like freak out now or anything um but we're checking because we genuinely think this was one of the fastest of all time yeah like fastest soap boxes ever he thought we hit the world record run right there and then and they cuz they had to check them by the millisecond yeah and we were a fraction of a second off being the fastest ever 1 18 of a second something something ridiculous like that and uh so I think we were either the second or the third fastest of all time yeah there were rumors at the end of the day and I don't know whether it was Chip just winding us up being like the last car of the day was slightly faster yeah they they yeah they said something like the last car of the day actually broke the world record so if that is true we're the third fastest of all time if not we are the second fastest of all time to go down that track and we rather the second of the first fastest of this year's event which is just just the coolest thing ever like we to be fair have also like we couldn't have picked a design that was Better Built For Speed I mean it's so people were saying this is this is aerodynamic and I was thinking it is but I don't think it's going to make that much of a difference in this yeah scenario and whether it did or not or whether it was just the fact that you didn't break much yeah I think that was it it was quite heavy it was heavy as well you had one of the heavy ones so at the start you can tell this was one of the things we were saying we should have got two people cuz we only got Jake to shove us at the start yeah and when when you start off just going down the ramp it took us a while to pick up speed if we had sort of been shoved and started at a really good pace and kept it at that pace I genely think we could have built the record but I'm I want to do it again same that's why I wanted to keep that cuz we could have just modified that and send it down we know that's a winning formula yeah make it into a submarine or something yeah exactly that thing works but Red Bull like they they we had such a great time with them they did so much for us and we were so grateful and we were speaking see nothing guaranteed and stuff um but they were saying there's a potential for us to come back and maybe do the one that you know you launch off a ramp and you're like 10 m up whatever and you've got to Glide over water as far as possible there and there are loads of other sort of like cool Red Bull events and stuff to do so um yeah I think we make this a thing if we can do just more of this stuff yeah I loved it it was genuinely one of the best things I've ever done I think yeah and there's a the the the only annoying thing is there's so much footage it's going to take a while to get the video together because Red Bull have Clips we have clips they've sent us a hard driver clipse I've got stuff on my phone B has stuff on his phone Jake has stuff on his phone so we'll gather it all together but when the video comes out I think it'll be such a good one because so good the whole experience was just the coolest thing ever and we couldn't be more grateful to Red Bull for that the perfect run at the end we just ended it so perfectly the whole experience I think yeah it couldn't have gone better afterwards I so cool yeah I couldn't get the helmet off though we got to the very end I could not figure out how to unclip the helmet so I did the interview with a helmet on yeah they could not hear thing as well you hear me go oh the atmosphere was electric and I know he said the electric thing and then we um yeah we Kenny from South Park hanging out with us we to I finally I got someone to take my helmet off we drove the soap box down to the graveyard thing but they said they weren't going to break it we put it to one side it might be broken and then we had to run up the hill because we had to get on the live stream to do an interview straight afterwards yeah and oh my God you realize how far we came down Running Up That thing that it was 400 to 500 M back up a relatively Steep Hill on a very hot day we were exhausted from the day before and uh being out the night before and having the race and all that kind of stuff and in boiler suits and it was a hot day boiling I got so sweaty at the top we got to the top and we were like that was just a thoroughly unenjoyable experience but it was cool cuz there I heard I don't I think I told you at the time I heard a kid as we ran past he was like oh my God racers felt like an F1 driver in that moment yeah that really went straight to my head yeah I bet we felt a lot cooler than we probably looked just running around in boiler suits and I'm my Red Bull cap on we had shades on surprised he hasn't got that red bull cap on today by the way that thing you're going to have to peel that off his dead body I've been wearing it so much lady just cuz I I love it it's good for green screen stuff that is the one thing I I might start wearing cuts out the wispy hair yeah it cuts out the wispy hair which kind of ruin the illusion I've got that real issue whereas when you wear a cap it's like a smooth round thing and the green screen just looks much better I see my editors have all been like wear a cap as often as possible oh so they even so they tell you what to do huh you're not Char they do interesting well I keep my editors locked away and then I give them footage and they're like please I want to see my family please share an editor now no King yeah we do shout out king great honestly fantastic worker his work ethic he sent me a video and like couple hours later he was like actually here's a V2 I watched it back and I I could see some improvements I was like kind of mentality and he's not been editing for long either yeah so he's I think all selft talk cow's amazing as well they're both just great honestly yeah people listening a fascinated here about how much we love our tives yeah let's get back to the Red Bull so box race so then we did our interview at the very top which is when cuz we went down first so we were Then followed by all the other creators who did the race um we didn't really get to see them at the time cuz we were running up the the bloody Hill but um we got to the top they all slowly joined us did their interview and then it got revealed the scores so there were different categories we were like ranked on or scored on the first being performance and I I'm pretty sure the style of the cart comes into that as well yeah and so we what did we get like what was it 20 22 it was really bad 40 terrible score we got like a seven a six a three and a five something like that whoever gave us a three what's wrong with you huh they were grumpy though cuz I think chip and frezy got something like 39 and the guy that person gave them a nine apparently they were really mean scoring the whole time that's crazy but chip and fzy knew about the performance thing which we I know how they knew about that we had no idea chip and freezy raced as a box of 20 chicken McNuggets yeah and they brought like homemade barbecue sauce and just on each other yeah pry just poured it all over them it was good like as performances go that's like the best thing you can do yeah so they got a really great score like almost perfect just one guy dropped a mark on it um 39 out 40 but I feel like I feel like giving us a three was really harsh I know our performance wasn't great but the music was very fitting yeah and maybe we should have pretended we were on the moon with our jumping or something like walking like that he just had such a cool carard we had so little time to think about it yeah I feel like it was harsh though look at our car that was really cool yeah maybe we were also ranked harshly because we were the first creators to go down maybe maybe we would have got a better score if we were towards the end I don't know yeah maybe but um yeah we did really bad on that and then you get obviously score for your speed in finishing the race yeah which we smashed Everyone by like four four seconds or something or seven or eight yeah like seven or eight seconds Quicks first to second and the second fastest and I think Becky and pieace got a dnf finish either they hit a minute or they stopped completely yeah cuz they went over one of the jumps and then front end broke so the wheel wasn't really like or the front was touching the floor dragging across the floor so they just I felt bad for them they just ped all across but at least they got down in one piece that's the they were just in a pint glass yeah it was really cool and they had a they had a cool performance Becky poured pint on um pie which was funny um con and Jack had a cool performance they just had some Swagger about it like yeah it was cool oh yeah we got picked on the performance but they did struggle getting into the vehicle did they yeah CU it's really hard and narrow to get in um they got they everyone got all the way to the end by the way Colin Jack fell over at the end there thing just went on its side they they chose thinner Wheels I didn't think they were going to make it that far yeah they also had a really high center of gravity cuz their car was thin and quite tall yeah like if you looked at their car it looked like it wanted to fall over it was a bit like chitty chitty bang bang but like elongated yeah so they did really well to and they were drifting it as well it was drifting so they did really well to get to the bottom um but yeah we were like seven seconds quicker than seven or eight seconds quicker than the second fastest which was it chip and freezy or was it Con I think it might have been no chip and frezy was Heavy wasn't it to be fair so that would move um and then there was People's Choice which we said we won 49% and was those were those those three so I think the reason so we ended up coming third we came third out of the four I just think it wasn't like cuz we won two out of three categories you'd think we'd win but I think they gave they were sort of like weighted yeah so because we were so low on the performance us being ahead on the other two bits didn't pull us up enough I think it's really harsh I think it doesn't matter at all by the way I don't I don't care but I do think it's harsh that performance is weighted so heavily in comparison to like speed has got to be the most important thing yeah like it's a race I know that's that's the way we were looking at it that's because it's a race come on we were focus on the race as aspect obviously soap boxes isn't Formula 1 is supposed to be like a bit of fun cretive stuff which you do get um but yeah hard winning two out of three categories and winning the race comfortably well it was more like at in the moment when they were revealing who won out of us four I was thinking in my head oh we've definitely won yeah after winning we got like 50% of the votes for People's Choice so it was a landslide Victory they said and a landslide Victory on the speed so I was thinking we have smashed those two things so surely we've gained loads of points for that yeah and we came third I was like I'm actually quite shocked by that I in my head I was thinking oh my God we've won yeah but um no it was so means anything like there's I don't there's nothing for it yeah I was just surprised but genuinely so it was so good yeah it was it was definitely definitely one of the best things I've ever done I was so glad that we did it I can't wait for the proper video to come out and have it all like a documentary s of documented archive just being like Oh I can look back at that video that was a banger yeah oh it was it was really good um then we stuck around and watched some public racing um and yeah there was it was it was nice there was a nice like area where you could get food and stuff and the worms showed up oh yeah lots of the patreon supporters a couple of N and non patreon people showed up lots of podcast people I'm guessing everyone there was podcast listeners because I didn't really put it on any platform no I think it it was all podcast we spoken about on the on on the podcast and in the patreon group chat quite a lot yeah and that was pretty much it so thank you well regardless if it's yeah thank you guys for coming along cuz it was so nice speaking to everyone great really great to have your support um yeah and yeah you guys were there for most of the day just like stood by our um what do you call it Soap Box stood by our Soap Box we were coming over when we could to say hi and stuff yeah everyone got photos we oh my goodness quite a lot of people wanted us to draw tattoos for them oh dear and we are not artistic no we're close yeah I'm a letter away but I not draw sa in my life and I was like the only thing I could think of was the rocket emoji yeah that was pretty good to be fair I was trying to draw them but getting the three little things at the bottom and the fire I was like I was like show this to your artist and they'll get what I'm trying to draw yeah they'll understand I mean I just ended up drawing flowers CU it's the easiest thing to draw it's got nothing to do with me a lot of art what just happened you just got bored of your own conversation I just yawned I was hoping you take it off me really quickly cuz I yawned no someone asked for a cameo once where they were like can you draw something for us to do a tattoo and I did a a ringed planet oh nice and oh my goodness trying to get cuz obviously if you put the circle there first the ring that goes in front like cuts through lines and it looks crap so you've kind of got to start with the ring but obviously just as the ring curves back around you have to stop and then you have to imagine where the sphere is going to be and oh my goodness I burnt through about half this notebook trying to get one that just looks semi-reasonable so whoever invented Saturn fair enough yeah exactly that must have been difficult and Uranus yep that's also ringed yeah um many too many rings yeah I've got a ring do you oh yeah and that weekend batch proposed to me so I said yes no I'm talking about my ass what anyway um it was it was a different kind of proposition to the one you were thinking of yours is way cuter than mine and I said no oh hell no I just got that that's disgusting cuz I was like on Saturday night we were just chilling we were like go we're exhausted yeah and I was like do you want to just stay around and Bach was like yeah so we played fornite and watch scary movies yeah he took me to get sushi again yeah we went to sticks and Sushi again but I was like I kind of want to make more videos but we were just so tired yeah I it was too late you just what you made me watch horror stuff we we watched a bunch of scary videos on YouTube like real ghost sightings and short horror movies and I was like I've wanted to do videos like that with you ages I was like then was the perfect time but our energy was just shock yeah we'll do it we'll definitely do it another time though CU people just love that love that horror game yeah is entertaining to watch other people get scared people don't want to watch you have fun they want to watch you cringe and be scared people enjoyed us having fun of Minecraft true but you were scared of I died like five six times I'm not very good clearly everyone's making fun of me did I die once I didn't I don't think no but your spirit died at one point hell no my spirit my spirit was always my spirit were through the roof um when I was getting attacked by Leona Lewis and I was hiding in the house turns out Leona Lewis can't go in water so I should have just gone in water I saw that comment yeah thanks for that thanks for the comment I'm actually going to use that logic and I I already want to film episode three right now do you yeah it was so fun we'll do it this week actually it's so fun like I enjoy playing it we're just loading up M fil although he needs a he needs a setup can we can we tell this boy to put some money towards a proper setup he plays on his PlayStation so we have to play Bedrock Edition so I can't use my nice shaders that make the waters and everything look clean and all the like graphics and stuff you know the like it's T's water we're keeping it the graphics upgrades are insane look just just a bit enjoy a humble bit of like Minecraft where it's nostalgic not everything has to be polished yeah okay fine um but no it was it was really good fun and it is it is I do love that we can just do that kind of stuff and just play a game and it would be fun yeah um we can just like high five when we want yeah anyway um back to let's go back in time to um the end of the race he wet himself no he didn't he didn't no he didn't but um I just want to make sure that we covered everything no because we didn't speak about um the stunt the stunts oh yeah you should tell them about the stunt they they just flung on you they didn't tell you until yeah they didn't tell me about this before and they made me sign my rights away yeah and it it was they had already Ked off the live stream so you just had to do it yeah um we basically batch got nice one he got pulled aside and they were like oh is the driver we're testing your reflexes yeah and what did they do they so she dropped a ruler and you just had to grab the ruler um as soon as she dropped it and just see how many centimeters you let drop to judge your reaction time I didn't do I think I came second actually nice but on the practice I failed uh so I was like oh that was nice and peaceful and fun I wonder what mine's going to be and they get me and they they I put this heart monitor on and I was like what they put this heart monitor on me put me in the middle of this cage and this dude called like Douglas or something comes up in this massive dirt bike and just goes like I'll lie down in the middle and I was like I know exactly where this is going got R to me and Jack just start planking and he's sort of in this giant he giant of a man I swear he's like 6'4 in this massive dirt bike and he's sort of there like on one wheel bouncing the like wheel like an inch from my head and I'm like if he just if anything misjudges he crushes my skull yeah like we we we lose one of the Bright Young talents of this generation and you as well wait what do you mean well they'd get Jack and you oh yeah yeah good old Jack and then then he was doing like wheelies around your head like just driving past full speed past his head yeah it was giving me the E actually see lie down there insane and I was just like well I'm playing it cool cuz that's like the name of the game it'd be cringe if I got up and I mean they they even said that if you get up you're at risk of just getting your head whacked cuz he's like an inch within your head so if you move it until you die yeah um and for like a minute he just did this and bounced around and yeah you were down there for a hot minute yeah we were there for ages just getting driven around I thought oh this is just getting this is just cruel now yeah I mean the poor boy is just lying there with a boner by the way uh because he gets that happens when he gets scared just why you think I keep getting you for horror games oh no i h on a Bo so he's just doing circling circling circling around Arthur on the floor it just I just felt a bit sorry for him in the end yeah uh so that was terrifying but good F night you know I'm up for anything I did realized the other day I'm just one of his friends who's just up for thing yeah you are actually someone could be like hey we're going to sit inside and watch movies tonight I be like fine or they can be like come on man we're robbing a bank I'm like cool they'll be like come on going glamping for the weekend do you is that real though if I said or okay let's go and watch the Euros tonight fine let's do it England England this is the last night of the group stage and all of a sudden the mood is really dead because we're just through now we've not played well either it's been pathetic there I said it and Harry Kane when you finally come on this podcast I've got some strong words to have with you mine mine Reserve is Gareth Southgate and not bringing BR and not playing kobby Mayu okay sorry Harry Kane actually way he's playing phenomenally to be not as if we're missing him but I'm mad at you Southgate yeah Italy um not playing too bad oh my goodness you're Italian did you watch the game last night and they scored the 90th plus eight to go through 98th minute it was the draw against Croatia oh that was heartbreaking poor the thing is they probably would have gone through anyway as one of the people third but um it's nice to confirm it you know yeah those moments of elation just so hard I think Italy just like a decent Striker anyway we won't bore you with football because a lot of people probably don't care about football yeah um but yeah I mean I'm getting into F1 now yes you are you watch drive to survive right yeah I've been watching drive to surv I need to get on that I really want to watch that um and hence why the Red Bull so box race I was really in I was really in my element Because You Loved does it make you love Red Bull as well the driver to survive does it follow a particular team it follows the mall and to be honest I haven't really got like a team I really um it's not like I really want to see this team win it's more people that you care about it's good to see Red Bull doing well but um I like Lando do you yeah you're Lando Norris enjoyer I'm a Lando enjoyer I like them all to be fair from what I've seen I like I get I like Char all oh cuz he kind he kind of looks like Charles mclair uh yeah I get uh Lando Norris a lot people always say like L nor I'm not sure about that boy and uh obviously like V stappen red the Red Bull goat what batch V stappen high five what does that even mean batch for steppen me batch for steppen batch for steppen me instead of Max for Sten batch for Sten it's one of the only times that batch really goes into anything batch for Sten what do people nickname you at school get tuna boy cuz I've brought in tuna fish boy uh right I was going duckling I was going for more names like name related like okay because I was oh name related I was I was called nothing I was just called Arthur I don't know why I said it like that I was called Nothing me yeah had no friends at school no I didn't really people would say ice as a joke ice yeah I just I didn't like not having a cool nickname name my sister one of my sisters calls me Izzy that's really cringe and feminine yo she watches these which is fine yo she watches these apologize down the lens right now I apologize nothing cuz it is it was true it was my truly held opinion and you should never apologize for being yourself sometimes she calls me Elizabeth as well what and I don't really know where she got that from she started that was a good what what yeah she watches it where she works as she was working she'll have it on Gizzy by the way I didn't get cancelled for what Sunday came out where I waterboarded Chris I haven't watched that and I was seriously worried I was genuinely like I thought you know just some people on the internet can be real yeah cuz they might be like oh you're making fun of water boarding people actually die from water boarding that's not what I exactly what I meant oh because okay you can't waterboard Chris because he doesn't like water and some people have been drowned before no okay of course because because you shouldn't do water boarding because it's like saying this is something you should it's really on impressionable fans and they'll be like okay I'm going to water board my mom tonight right maybe maybe that was like oh you shouldn't do that on to an impression I'm going to cancel you right now in that case um but no I I I just thought people would be like oh that was so mean of him they're not friends like just you know when you don't really know I mean obviously anyone who's seen Chris and videos knows how much abuse he puts me through I mean that guy abuse shs down on my neck like there's no tomorrow he's just I I'll just be chilling mid shootting he'll just go on my traps I mean granted they're juicy like they're nice muscular defined um have you ever thought you might just be a vampire I don't know hiding in plain sight you know you've got two Pierce marks right there you getting sucked by you've got really garlicky breath so I don't think I could be a a vampire cuz otherwise let's not start rumors like that otherwise I'd run there's not start rumors like that yeah my breath smells like daisies rainbows fairy tales I'm always chewing gum you are always chewing gum you're a real gum chewer yeah it Bo it boosts your confidence it's like putting a pair of sunglasses on I'm glad you don't do it on the podcast that would be the most annoying thing to listen to I have done it before but I just tuck it into my teeth like snz you don't mean that it's gum you don't mean that it's gum it's just weird you don't mean that it's gum gum started freaking out you know we were speaking about eggs the other day when you you're Midway through eating heads and you're like wait up yeah that's a period something ain't right that's a menstrual cycle raor and you're like yeah well that weirdly makes me like it more it's more than I knew you were a feminist me too come on yeah um we do like to bring awareness to the fact that women exist and have Cycles cuz I I I mentioned menstrual cycles all the time and I in one of my YouTube videos I was like I've got to stop saying menstrual cycles drop a comment if you think I should stop saying menual cycle everyone's like no and someone's like no it actually feels kind of feminist in a weird way cuz you're bringing light to the fact of cuz not everyone knows that women have I think everyone knows women have periods I found out 3 days ago watching your video you thought they had penis what I just thought they merely existed they merely exist in a in a realm Between Heaven and Hell where somewhere I love doesn't exist what the hell is this guy talking about women only exist in heaven women are heaven on Earth in my opinion how does that song Go heaven heaven for what it's worth women are heaven on Earth women are heaven on Earth brother in Christ you don't know what you're talking about right now I feel like we're getting on to Serious brain rot have you got anything else this is a rare batch prepared actually been praying preparing a lot um all of the episodes lately we've actually yeah hence why the quality's increased um no you just you do stuff in a different way I like like reading and talking reading well next episode's prepared by by Arthur and we'll be filming this directly after this one yeah we're doing complet transparency cuz batch is way on holiday and I'm going to be honest because I'm not I've not brought a spare pair of clothes anyway yeah me neither I don't want to hear no comments like why is he wearing that shirt again well they should be comenting CU alth this on an episode before quite frankly Arthur is either can I just say by the way I predicted what you were going to be wearing on the Red Bull meal I said Arthur will turn up in Black corduroy shorts um and a cream beige top shirt either worn as an overshirt with a white t-shirt underneath or just a shirt that's exactly what you were that's true I mean I have two other pairs of shorts I had a black like pair that were like had textured but the waistband thing snapped hard to find a good pair of shorts and then I had a nice like cream beige pair yeah um but they were just like I don't know linen and just ended up being a bit too and take it from a guy a sleepover with him he doesn't take them off he showers in them he goes me to take them off he was like take them off take them off take them off and I was like leave me alone yeah I was like please wash please wash you were just misreading me I wasn't saying take them off I was like please wash please wash anyway I I got the um I went into the patreon chat o uh little plug if you want to join the patreon go ahead there's a chat you get early access to episodes they get uploaded all the time and Bullies me in it yeah I do speak in there a fair amount um and I said to them we're filming two pods today can you guys reply to this message with any questions you have about the Red Bull Soapbox race we're going to be doing a whole episode on it uh because I thought there might be you know they might want to know more information on how it was built or how we were feeling and stuff and we could just give us some insight to that we've just explained the day how cool it was blah blah blah but they want to know the BTS let's see how insightful their questions can be okay did you hurt your nose that's [ __ ] rude no I didn't that obviously pointed at you no I didn't to be fair I did we had said in an episode prior that there was no foam and we are going to smash our faces in they put foam in we had good helmets on but we didn't actually crash so yeah we didn't crash so although his coxic bone is in pain yeah my coxics I'm absolutely fine because I'm not weak that's your tailbone um may ask for us highly evolved Apes that was from Brooke by the way I'll say names shout outs May says how SL why did you decide to build a rocket why I guess cuz it's very on brand for us have a look at our mugs yep yeah I mean we're just we're were're a Spacey themed podcast for no apparent reason we genely I'm sure we said in the earlier episodes we had no plans to be themed and bats just randomly one day went let's just make it space themed I just think it's cool yeah me I just think we both think it's cool we do we just need a cool set I think most of the things we do is because we think oh that's cool like the Soap Box we thought oh it'd be cool if we did a a ship or a ufi yeah just cuz it just cuz it's funny someone actually messaged in for the next one I've got like the submissions from the normal submissions page which everyone can enter just go to our any of our socials at Bach and arur and in the link there's like a a link tree and one of them is the submissions form and they were like what is your target audience because I can't really figure it out and I'm studying media at the moment target audience is such a big thing and I was like we don't have one we just come on talk about whatever we find interesting yeah and just hope that some people agree yeah and the people who do listen are actually very um diverse yeah and intelligent and cool and good looking and all this yeah um so yeah no um yeah and it's weird because we're not sitting there going oh let's talk about this to appeal to this audience which I think is I mean somehow it works so thank you guys for tuning into thanks cuz I think if you analyzed it in like a media class and it was like oh one minute you're doing brain rot meme references and the next you're talking about s men and then the next we're talking about Greek philosophy and the next one like Roman Parables and then religion they'd be like well someone's going to listen to the one episode like it and then not like the rest yeah but for some reason people just like listening to it all really I think we just decided that we're just going to do what we want like yeah whatever we enjoy yeah like whatever we enjoy and whatever we F feel like talking about we're just going to do it because if you want to enjoy something you've like if you want this if we want this podcast to continue we've got to enjoy it and if we're looking at it tactically like Oh Let's do an episode on this so we can boost our audience in this demographic it will start to feel like a like a real job well like you know I've heard from other people that do podcasts that their producers will be like today you're having this guest on and they're like well I've never watched the show they're on or Never follow them don't care about the story but I've got to do it's nice that we kind of have a just able to just go oh whatever and I do think the stuff we talk about is interesting broadly like if you're someone who like whenever we meet or speak to anyone who watches the podcast they're always like oh I love like these types of interesting discussions I feel like if you have a generally curious mind yeah like if if people who are listening to this and enjoy it are going to be similar to us in that respect and they you know even if they don't have a an interest in any of the particular like they might be like oh I love hearing about religion I'm a curious person but they don't care about Greek philosophy yeah or anything when we speak about the ship of thesis they're still like oh it's an interesting thought like it's an interesting thought so if you're one of those types of people like us then all that kind of stuff is interesting I guess thus our our demographic is people who just have similar interests to us yeah or like have a similar outlook on life or yeah that's the thing it's not even like it's just it's the broad value of curiosity I think who just like they like to laugh they like a bit of Comedy cuz we even get people who disagree with us and they're like oh I'm religious I completely disagree with this all but it was so interesting to listen to and so they're not listening because we're speaking about things that they find um they agree with or they enjoy you know but they're going like oh like I like the way these topics are approached or the way this is discussed and yeah so yeah hopefully we'll try and keep that up um hey no way we're going to brain Rock 24/7 after here or no anyway um Connie asked what was your top speed we don't actually know but what did you think it was 30 well when we passed we passed the speed gate at what will be one of the fastest points and that was 30 okay mil K yeah km pH um Leia says do you think you were going to make it to the Finish Line did you think you were going to make it to the Finish Line I genuinely um did not think we were going to make it past the chicane to be honest yeah cuz I didn't realize the course was as wide as it was however the as narrow as it was you mean actually yeah yes and no the thing is it's like driving a car when you're in a car it looks like you're you're bigger than the road but actually you can fit in much smaller of a gap than you expect yourself to be able to and so when you're actually in the soap box when we were doing the chicane in my head I thought we're going to catch one of the hay bals and go flying but actually although it was actually pretty close watching it back it felt like I had enough room to get round and stuff well two hay bals we did fully slic through well yeah if the wings were like flat fronted we would have we could have just spun out flown but because the wings were just like yeah we the first one and then the second one we through that yeah um but in no I didn't think we were going to make it down in one piece to be honest I thought either we'd get to the end and there' be damage or we'd fall over at the end or we just wouldn't make it to the end cuz it's not a like it more often than not you don't make it to the end yeah so I thought statistically I didn't I didn't think we were going to make it to the end so I was surprised were you or not it's so funny because at the start you're like I really don't know but be when you're going down it's so fast and you've got to think a lot like yeah I was just constantly thinking like just monitoring whether we were going too fast or not to be like bring the speed down ever so slightly and it's everything's happening so fast you don't have time to think oh are we going to make it like any hypotheticals it's just uh pull the break break on break off break off oh my goodness are we going to make this corner are we going to too fast at how are we doing like all this kind of stuff's rushing through your head I didn't even think about it I was no so yeah I had no thoughts in my head either I think we were just on reflex at that point yeah because every yeah like Arthur said everything's coming at you so quick like before the chane I thought I had enough time to put my hand up and wave and I was like [ __ ] no I don't yeah so that's when I came back onto the wheel and did that so we really don't have much time in that thing um then Phoenix asks what was the hardest and easiest part of the creative process oh hard po was coming up with an idea for what we wanted to do as the car because we took ages like they were asking us for the design for so long and we were like we really don't know it is hard when you can do literally anything it's like the classic situation where you've got too much Choice yeah so you can't make a decision and neither necessarily creative creative types yeah so we and also it's it's difficult as well when there's two people because obviously if one person wants to do something we we agreed yeah we we didn't have any friction on what we wanted to do we because we both didn't really have an idea but you've got to make sure that what one person comes up with the other person's happy to do um but I think from the go we just suggested either a space shuttle or UFO we were both happy with those two ideas and then we had a look at some pictures and we thought okay let's go for a space sh that was it yeah so I think that um it was hard in the beginning but to to be honest the decision process was pretty easy for us in the end I do think the hardest part although that was hard I think what was harder for us was probably um building the chassis don't you think it was harder than the woodwork yeah that's probably true cuz we didn't have any engineer assistance with the underly car yeah the actual chassis itself we just had bits like we didn't have instructions for half of it we were in in a big Warehouse with just a bunch of nuts bolts rods	actually die from water boarding that's not what I exactly what I meant oh because okay you can't waterboard Chris because he doesn't like water and some people have been drowned before no okay of course because because you shouldn't do water boarding because it's like saying this is something you should it's really on impressionable fans and they'll be like okay I'm going to water board my mom tonight right maybe maybe that was like oh you shouldn't do that on to an impression I'm going to cancel you right now in that case um but no I I I just thought people would be like oh that was so mean of him they're not friends like just you know when you don't really know I mean obviously anyone who's seen Chris and videos knows how much abuse he puts me through I mean that guy abuse shs down on my neck like there's no tomorrow he's just I I'll just be chilling mid shootting he'll just go on my traps I mean granted they're juicy like they're nice muscular defined um have you ever thought you might just be a vampire I don't know hiding in plain sight you know you've got two Pierce marks right there you getting sucked by you've got really garlicky breath so I don't think I could be a a vampire cuz otherwise let's not start rumors like that otherwise I'd run there's not start rumors like that yeah my breath smells like	-2	6	4	actually die from water boarding that's not what I exactly what I meant oh because okay you can't waterboard Chris because he doesn't like water and some people have been drowned before no okay of course because because you shouldn't do water boarding because it's like saying this is something you should it's really on impressionable fans and they'll be like okay I'm going to water board my mom tonight right maybe maybe that was like oh you shouldn't do that on to an impression I'm going to cancel you right now in that case um but no I I I just thought people would be like oh that was so mean of him they're not friends like just you know when you don't really know I mean obviously anyone who's seen Chris and videos knows how much abuse he puts me through I mean that guy abuse shs down on my neck like there's no tomorrow he's just I I'll just be chilling mid shootting he'll just go on my traps I mean granted they're juicy like they're nice muscular defined	um have you ever thought you might just be a vampire I don't know hiding in plain sight you know you've got two Pierce marks right there you getting sucked by you've got really garlicky breath so I don't think I could be a a vampire cuz otherwise let's not start rumors like that otherwise I'd run there's not start rumors like that yeah my breath smells like	2,-3,5	8,5,3	2	-3	5	8	5	3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0g_xJvKEb8	4,108	-0g_xJvKEb8	2024-06-27 00:00:00	[Music] what's up everybody welcome back to episode 14 of the batch and Arthur podcast yay go thanks for joining everyone we have something to reveal yes we do I know you guys don't like it when Arthur has his mug on the couch because he tends to drop things don't you never dropped anything actually okay you dropped that th done remember that well you might have noticed I also have my mug on the sofa mhm wondering why who wants to know why should we tell them something to do with one like equals one Lara maybe something to do with that exactly you guys ready see what you reveal go way for audio listeners we have white mugs with our little cartoon characters on them that's right little will I didn't want to Cheers you and I've got my little handsome space guy come on yeah Lara surprised us with these this is a gift um mine shatterproof as well apparently oh it's not sh yeah he's got a plastic mug because we know what he's like I've sippy C the audio listeners actually little rubber cppy cup with two handles well actually when Arthur drinks from a mug show them how you do it I'll I'll commentate for this he uses two hands so he grabs on the like handle and then he grabs the other hand I drink everything with two hands especially tea and Pints yeah I don't really know what is there a reason for that or not safety I guess twice as balanced is that really if one arm stops working the other one's there as a fail safe well there you go that's why he does it guys so it makes sense all after all yeah um speaking of batch and Arthur this podcast design right here yeah this has been plasted on something recently what our rocket ship oh yeah guys we just got back from the Red Bull Soap Box race and we're alive 2024 we genuinely were not sure we were going to survive no I was but we did really scared we we turned up we got to see other people's cards um and there was basically two things going on so there's like a public race and then the Creator race was like a separate thing which is streamed on YouTube If you go on Red Bull's um YouTube channel and you go on under the live tab you can actually watch the full thing yeah we were like a half time race yeah it was Bas half time show yeah there was a few people who weren't happy about the Creator's uh racing cuz they thought we were mixed in with the public but it's like a whole separate thing like we can't win any awards over the public or anything like that yeah um but but we won the hearts of the public come on yeah we did win the hearts of the public there was a a couple of things that you were like rated on as creators and one of them was People's Choice and we got a landslide victory of 44% yeah it actually ended up on 49% 50% out of four teams we got 49 everyone rounds 49 thank you to everyone who voted for us we one of four teams but we're up against chip and freezy who have a big loving audience Becky and pieace who audience and then con from the siden huge loving audience and the guy who's our cameraman on the train video the siden that's right Jack was there as well went to with con they had cool out but uh we we got to Ali p uh that's my first time there you've been there before actually I think we should start the day before okay let's let's reel that [ __ ] back because we had another sleepover kind of yeah we did have another let's just say oh no we didn't really a hotel yeah we did not have a sleepover but what did we do where did we first meet we we met at the we met at the hotel at the hotel dropped our bags off Adam was there he's the Red Bull guy that was been looking after us and he took all the creators out to dinner yeah we to find the tell first yeah chopped a pint um both hands come on yeah then we got in a taxi we went to dinner we had a create a dinner um what did you eat pizza yeah I had a really really hot hot pizza but the thing I was enjoying the most was the football we had a massive screen in front of us oh yeah cuz France were playing Netherlands NE scen I felt kind of harsh cuz the the table was positioned in a way that only half of us could see the football and the other half were just watching us watching football yeah but no he they were watching a react video basically they got to see us live reacting In the Flesh um but the meal was really good the food was really good uh Jake was struggling Jake the guy works with um Arthur they both got the same Pizza he was struggling with the heat yeah he was [ __ ] [ __ ] struggling with the Pint as well got two pints steep was steaming no cuz he was so in denial Jake yeah Jake had a couple pints and he was gone we were like you are drunk he like I am not drunk and he was getting angry mad I'm not even drunk he's I haven't even done anything later he's doing karaoke so that's belting out karaoke with his phone to the to the mic with with voice note on my God it's so that was you singing those Tunes to someone yeah we yeah CU you've been to a place before should we say the name of the place or not I actually I don't remember it anyway okay we went to this place anyway Arthur's been there before it's um like a karaoke bar with uh like an arcade and bowling and there's a dance floor and like a bar and stuff like that yeah very good fun we all went there did some karaoke went there for Arthur Hill's birthday that's how I found out about it what a place it is a cool place actually um yeah did a bit of karaoke we were in there for a couple hours doing karaoke in the end yeah um belting at tunes by the way batch can sing No Arthur can sing yeah but I think people would assume that from but that goes without saying no but but Frank Sinatra came on and oh my goodness batch was just cooking that thing anyone can sing Frank arra welcome back Frank Sinatra he died and this is him reborn wasn't wasn't he heavily involved with the mafia Frank Sinatra so are you you're a quter Italian that's true but I can't admit that no not legally anyway oops they're going to come and get me try and come and get me watch me beat beat you all up actually I shouldn't say what if they do don't come and get me please I was just kidding I've got nothing to do with him he lives on 32 Italian back street oh my god that actually is my house number H what don't say that it's not that's my apartment number as well no we you're not finding out where we live um I'm going to move in with Arthur anyway we moved in together on Minecraft yeah sort of anyway back to karaoke we had fun at karaoke then we went home we didn't get back till 3:00 a.m. silly move because we had to be up early yeah we had it well not that early we had 10: a.m. taxi picks up yeah but we met at breakfast at 9:30 it was the most romantic breakfast of my life yeah um and then stayed at the Hilton Red Bull of class they put us in there they also like what a lovely experience not only did they take us to dinner they they paid for karaoke and everything like that they covered everything shout out to Red Ball I'm going to crack One open right now and they're actually delicious all these colored red balls my actual favorite is the summer edition you guys should actually try this this is not sponsored but I'm just saying this is not even the first thing I I did I went to salburg in Austria and did some Red Bull salburg video shooting with Chris MD um we did like penal sh outs in games with mads bistrup for their YouTube channel and then did a video in it was the the final one of christed uh every time you beat a Defender the defender gets upgraded that's right yeah and we start off with like Harry R Shaw as the worst Defender when all the way up to Champions League mads bistr who fantastic player I mean yeah you realize how like when you watch t uh football on TV you think oh I could do that yeah but then if you see a actual Pro in real life yeah like that makes sense why you went pro now actually we need to do more charity so that was fun that was fun there are a lot going on it's just timings cuz there's so many things going on during summer and that's usually when charity matches go down yeah but you got to work in the schedules either you're away or I'm away or there's a brand trip or something has to be submitted in time was crazy yeah but um no I'm sure we're going to do a lot more stuff with Red Bull as well so that's exciting um but anyway we then got the taxi to Alex Alexandra Palace Ali pal come on and um I've only just realized that's why it's Ali P really yeah I just thought that Ali P was the hill and Alexandre Palace was no way Ali now I've just heard it okay that's Ali P right anyway U you almost did a off the TV intro that right right so then we uh we got into the race so no we got into the Zone where the race was going on yeah and we got to have a little scout out all the public submitted soap boxes some really cool stuff in there yeah although there was one weird one because we rock up and there are like four girls gathered around water is essentially a double bed one girl just tucked up and you back like oh this is cool and she was like yeah it's really cozy get in we were like no I I ain't doing all that I'm sure though that you know that wasn't actually her like lying in it yeah I know you could tell something was weird under the covers but I was not getting involved what what what the hell um oh you can't see my soundboard I've got to pull this back so I can soundboard here yeah he hasn't got a soundboard yet thank goodness although I should no they all see the comments by the way Lara and Arthur see the comments and Lara even said into the group chat she was like I think we need to get bat of soundboard because of all the comments she sent me a message being like listen we've got one purchase a year we can authorize either we get cool mugs or batch gets a soundboard and I was like mugs mugs oh hell no I just think it's so much funnier when you do it yourself and go to I do think so but this is going to get worn down and eventually there's going to be a Hole uh oh audio listeners don't know what I'm doing I I just I pretend there's a soundboard and I just push the sof and make my I do it as well I do it in real life I'll be speaking to people when I'm BR but it doesn't make his much sense in real life just in a conversation he's just air poking stuff as he goes brh you know what's so funny as well I showed batch this someone one of you guys one of our listeners because cuz I you do it quite a lot but I do it all the time at you do the what yeah what that thing someone did a Tik Tok called whatting people in public so she goes into this petrol station goes to pay she goes like how much is that and he goes like Oh 1350 and she just goes what loud so loud just yells it in this man's face and everyone was like bad bad you guys have to recreate this it was so funny yeah and then Arthur was like we've got to do this we've got I don't know if I have the like what is it um social confidence to do that I'd be able to do it not yell it I thought it was a bit rude though the loud yelling not in a bad I'm not criticizing you I just able to do that like that myself I'd be like what I think sorry you got no no soup of the day what what when you have a camera on you though that you get a new found confidence in public like I found no no no in general I don't know if you agree with this in like a sidan video I Feel Like rules don't apply like social rules then don't apply cuz you've got a camer on you and you can do what you want whatever you want yeah I've only recently started being able to finally find it within myself to Vlog like when we were at wagas I was like this is actually fine yeah whereas before IID look at people vlogging in public and I go I admire you a lot cuz I can never do that it helps having people around you yeah although I feel like we do it with our phones it's a bit easier that's true whereas if people with their cameras out like facing their way I'm like oh my goodness I'd be so embarrassed yeah I think I would be as well especially if you got like a big rig on the end of that thing people are just admiring you your rig yeah both of them come on anyway um what speaking of the soap boxes that we saw um there was this one there was like these four guys like lying down chilling and they had this like Dome oh yeah which was kind of like a I guess like a spa you know the space shuttles that come down to earth it kind of looked a bit like that didn't yeah um like a landing module yeah like a landing module and they what did what did they make it off fiberglass or something yeah oh my God you could smell it from where we were still and they were like stick your head in that so we stuck it you stuck your head in first took a whiff and I did it afterwards oh my God dizzying genuinely dizzying I'm high I'm still high from that moment if anyone's ever been in like a a surfboard shop where they like make the surfboards yeah it smells like that it just smell exactly like that and they bizarre I just burped on I thought that was what that was that was disgusting hopefully that didn't get picked up apologize sorry guys sorry if you heard that cut that out anyway um it's not getting cut uh it they had to spend the whole run down in that thing so I think those guys are a little bit waved yeah I'm glad we I'm glad we were just a team of two and had two seats because I kind of felt bad some people that pushed the Soap Box thing down yeah like running after it for like 50 meters and it was a hot day that's true like um most people was like a team of four and two would push two would be in it I think that's standard isn't it to have two people in the so box and then a team that will push and Chase it down probably chase down chip and freezies yeah funny it was funny as well the way he was running because I guess it was like a it was like Looney Tunes the way he had his arms up like that chasing them down to be fair there are people I felt more bad for he talking about some of the injuries of the day oh my God and this is the thing like good gosh man we were already nervous then we were then we got to S see our um vehicle which they had made some mods to by the way so put me at ease a little bit they put foam in the place where my head would smash oh yeah so I felt about that yeah um they didn't they were going to cut out the wheel arches so we could turn more but they didn't I'm glad they I actually think that worked in our favor in it did um and they were actually slagging it off when it went up on towards stage they were speaking about it on Mike and they were like they can't turn properly they can't see over it and I was thinking oh no they're slagging off our thing they were talking about our buckets on the back and stuff I don't know if they were slagging off the buckets or just speaking about I just heard bucket like they're talking about ours oh my god um but it actually worked in favor and then there was screens up showing the first runs and it took a while it like an hour or two after we got there till the first run um but did you see the Sheep one no I didn't see any of the big ones but that's a bad one there was a sheep we I was watching a sheep go down um it was just before you did your stunt I think and it got all the way to the end and then at full speed flipped over onto their necks and I think it was one of them that broke their collarbone and it looked awful and after seeing that me and pieace was stood together we were like I we genuinely don't want to go down after seeing that he was [ __ ] it I was [ __ ] it um and then not only that I think other people must have like been bruised or whatever but the other big one that we heard about is we when we got to the start line we were there waiting for like 10 minutes and it was cuz the person who went down before us got knocked out so that's crazy yeah which I didn't see I don't think we'll ever see any footage of that but I don't know what vehicle it was or anything I just heard that they got knocked out that's why we were up there for ages yeah I mean it was going down insanely fast yeah it look I mean it looks quick on camera but it doesn't look nearly as quick as it feels yeah when you're in that thing oh my goodness and you can barely see in front of you you're bouncing all over the place you're hitting these jumps there are bits where there's foam that like splashes you in the face you have a few seconds of blindness yeah it's mental it it to best describe it definitely feels faster than sitting in a car at 60 MPH I'd say faster than it feels sitting in a car going 100 yeah cuz you're so exposed to we've never gone 100 I've been on the auto bar in Germany okay fair um but yeah you're exposed so it just feels so quick but we were quick insanely Qui insanely quick I think everyone we were the first of the creators to go up everyone thought we were going to just crash yeah or just be crap and slow there was so many comments so many DMs I got afterward was like [ __ ] fair enough before we even went down though before we get cuz we we will react we'll show you us going down yeah but I think we should tell them actually maybe should we hit play and then we'll pause at certain bits to be like explainer yeah I'll tell you what it plays it goes all the way through and then they do it in slow-mo afterwards we can on the slow-mo we'll do some explanation okay here we go batch and Arthur we had the podcast sticker oh it was such a good sticker on the side which was really cool and they zoomed in out loads for the YouTube video which is great yeah was all over the stream which was ideal although you cannot see podcast there until someone shads over it yeah someone's just shattering we were stood up there for ages genuinely yeah because someone had just been knocked out looking down this hill that was just so steep it's not funny but look at that thing that's so impressive it's so well built I can't believe it and I'm I'm gutted because I actually wanted to say to the we had a little bit of help from the Red Bull Engineers yeah I wanted to say thank you to them more just be like what did you see that that was really good yeah if anyone knows anything by any chance please pass on our thanks because yeah they they helped us hopefully they watched it and saw a great deal uh but we did do a lot I mean we did spend two full days building this thing and printing it up and stuff so yeah which you'll obviously see in the Vlog I'll talk about I'll talk about something later cuz there's um this was posted to Tik Tok and there's some funny comments on there really basically yeah basically calling us desk dwellers what so this is our performance so this performance we didn't know we no was supposed to do we we were told to choose a piece of music so we chose something like Space Odyssey style but we had no idea that meant we had to perform yeah and like like she's saying like there are points for performance and we knew about 10 minutes beforehand that this 30 second period of Music we'd have to Performance so we were like let's just do something simple gum shields in the mouth bow and get in and they were harsh they gave us a three but that also also counts to the way the vehicle looks so I think three is Harsh yeah but here we go performance score 22 poor but this is when we started racking up speed the steering was really weird as well cuz it changed as we got quicker and we were just bouncing as we went down like we'd hit a ramp and oh my goodness like almost front flipped that around we Whi around the corner and our our genuine one of our wings like clipped a ha Bell and just sliced through it that one sliced through the hay Bell I was thinking as we came down I swear I would have hit that side had I not hit that side and then nailed the braking and you said you could smell burnt rubber when you were breaking on that thing cuz I was like tickling the brakes like before a jump every now and then I do one all as we approached the chicane I pulled it yeah um but they said as we were going down in the commentary like yeah oh this feels fast usually you're hitting like low 20s here and it comes up on the side and we're hitting 30 km an hour yeah we were going and we were oh my goodness I'm glad you didn't break touch the break though we didn't need it yeah yeah I mean you did a did a little bit but I mean the others obviously touched it a lot more yeah I basically kept us at a speed where I was like this is very close to the line of like where we can make this corner at the speed because at the end of the day as a race and I was like we don't want to get up at the end and just be like oh like a couple of the soite boxes made it halfway down and just like stopped completely yeah and they were like having to like like I don't know like Shake It Forward it's so awkward like we did speak and we did say we'd actually rather crash going pretty quick than come to a grinding hle because it's just not good material yeah like we did it for Content wants to see that it's for a video we know representing creators at half time yeah so many people watching we've got a space shuttle that is designed at a velocity of 17,000 500 mph yeah so we were like you know hitting to be honest when they gave us those uh cuz we asked for special helmets that covered the face yeah when they gave me that I felt invincible and I thought oh [ __ ] it and we had gum Shields that we like ped poured into boiling water molded them before and molded them so we we felt pretty safe yeah I mean but still at 30 we weren but I don't have miles hour or kilm an hour I think it was mph I actually do really yeah but whatever it is at 30 like genuinely like just whacking your head against something solid is well I mean someone did get knocked out and broke it was terrifying yeah they they then do a slow-mo okay let's watch the slow-mo and we can break down exactly because I was thinking there was a point in the chicane when we really Whi round I was thinking why did that happen it was because the back right wheel wasn't on the ground when we were coming up to the chicane so when it touched the the ground it turned us into a corner so I was like [ __ ] and I had to spin it around one way and then back around the other way oh that's why we had that major wobble yeah and you can see it it's like it's cuz one of the wheels wasn't on the ground okay let's let's watch and like in the first one we'll try and go for the audio listeners kind of describe what we're seeing yeah so the first jump yeah we it was a heavy a heavy bit of Kit as well we definitely had one of the heavier ones it and it was like so we got through here the back that wheel wasn't on the ground so like had to correct it well the chicane of just having to go really quick left and then really quick right after yeah and then this pit we hit a bunch of stairs and bch basically grinds on the right hand of them it's cuz afterwards we had to be on the right hand side so I was thinking I can't turn directly after I'm going to have to turn on the ramp like the CL the the course is split in two with like steps on the left and straight on the right and we go down the steps but like half dangling off yeah you have a choice whether to do jumps or not obviously we were going to do the jumps cuz you get docked time um no they add time on if you go round cuz it's a bit unfair yeah but we you were just like let's head it yeah and after the first jump it it looks like we really jump around I don't know about you but in it it didn't feel that bad I I think I'm the exact opposite cuz I was going flying and my bum still Hur May was our positioning or cuz I was holding on to this when yeah I had nothing to hold on to I was just sat on a blue seat I re yeah I reckon that's what it was cuz it kept me like sort of planted you fix and you're in the center so with us like when when you go off the Jump the nose sort of goes down yeah it did and then the back col kicks up into the air and then slams down and because I'm at the back you really got you know I've got a lot further to fall and I just got whacked and my butt like when I sit on the sofa like no I can feel it bruised on I was actually un unscared I was absolutely fine yeah God it was um after that first jump though I got a lot more confidence in the run I was thinking oh that was fine I can we can do all the [ __ ] jumps yeah I just got full speed no I rate it I'm so glad you just sent it cuz and you I mean you didn't have a choice sending it yeah you just you na yeah exactly you could SL down but uh I they miked us did they mic you up CU they miked me up but I said nothing the whole run yeah why would you you couldn't because the thing is I was so focused I think it's because we went so quick because there's a Red Bull posted a video on their Tik Tok page where because they miked up chip and freezy and um it's off chip speaking to freezy and he's like on the brakes off the brakes okay we're going to go around this now and I think it's CU they were using the brakes and communicating about the brakes that they had stuff to say but because we were just you told me before you weren't going to touch the brake so I thought okay he's really not there's no point saying anything and you know whether it's a Brak or not so I was just thinking I'm just going to drive I was literally only thinking like I'm only going to slow us down if I feel like at this speed we either can't hit that jump properly or can't go around the corner and I was just tickling it and it was only at the end like I was like I've got to wait until we cross the finish line before I can break and I just Ram it and because it was a friction break it's like literally a metal bar that just pulls down onto both of the rear wheels it just starts smelling like burning rubber actually nailed that was so good though cuz we literally landed after that last jump we landed and I was like [ __ ] the Finish is right there and all I could hear was I just knew he pulled that thing so hard we came around the corner and didn't touch a single thing because he broke just in time yeah and the thing was untouched like the they said they it could get sent back to one of us so I send it to my house um I got I didn't tell you this yet I got a DM from someone saying I'm just about to watch your soap box get destroyed what no it's been graveyard we took it to a graveyard but we put it to one side no they told us we could have it uh yeah oh the guy might be lying I I pray he is cuz that's so harsh but I saw it in the DM request I was like [ __ ] surely not we should M message Adam but I think a big part of the reason we couldn't speak or do much else is because we weren't so full s we did that in 36 seconds chip and freezy were the second fastest in our group I think and they were 44 seconds yeah so we were we were literally seven or eight seconds I mean I don't exactly know what their milliseconds were but we were seven or eight seconds faster than them and I mean the difference like you watch them go down and they're sort of doing a decent speed but I thought them being go- karters you know they've got their Senor frogs they race every year yeah I was like they're going to bomb it too yeah but they kind of just played it relatively safe I mean good time time but like I do think we we absolutely Center and we had this guy come up to us at the end like should you say yeah say and this guy comes up to us and go don't like freak out now or anything um but we're checking because we genuinely think this was one of the fastest of all time yeah like fastest soap boxes ever he thought we hit the world record run right there and then and they cuz they had to check them by the millisecond yeah and we were a fraction of a second off being the fastest ever 1 18 of a second something something ridiculous like that and uh so I think we were either the second or the third fastest of all time yeah there were rumors at the end of the day and I don't know whether it was Chip just winding us up being like the last car of the day was slightly faster yeah they they yeah they said something like the last car of the day actually broke the world record so if that is true we're the third fastest of all time if not we are the second fastest of all time to go down that track and we rather the second of the first fastest of this year's event which is just just the coolest thing ever like we to be fair have also like we couldn't have picked a design that was Better Built For Speed I mean it's so people were saying this is this is aerodynamic and I was thinking it is but I don't think it's going to make that much of a difference in this yeah scenario and whether it did or not or whether it was just the fact that you didn't break much yeah I think that was it it was quite heavy it was heavy as well you had one of the heavy ones so at the start you can tell this was one of the things we were saying we should have got two people cuz we only got Jake to shove us at the start yeah and when when you start off just going down the ramp it took us a while to pick up speed if we had sort of been shoved and started at a really good pace and kept it at that pace I genely think we could have built the record but I'm I want to do it again same that's why I wanted to keep that cuz we could have just modified that and send it down we know that's a winning formula yeah make it into a submarine or something yeah exactly that thing works but Red Bull like they they we had such a great time with them they did so much for us and we were so grateful and we were speaking see nothing guaranteed and stuff um but they were saying there's a potential for us to come back and maybe do the one that you know you launch off a ramp and you're like 10 m up whatever and you've got to Glide over water as far as possible there and there are loads of other sort of like cool Red Bull events and stuff to do so um yeah I think we make this a thing if we can do just more of this stuff yeah I loved it it was genuinely one of the best things I've ever done I think yeah and there's a the the the only annoying thing is there's so much footage it's going to take a while to get the video together because Red Bull have Clips we have clips they've sent us a hard driver clipse I've got stuff on my phone B has stuff on his phone Jake has stuff on his phone so we'll gather it all together but when the video comes out I think it'll be such a good one because so good the whole experience was just the coolest thing ever and we couldn't be more grateful to Red Bull for that the perfect run at the end we just ended it so perfectly the whole experience I think yeah it couldn't have gone better afterwards I so cool yeah I couldn't get the helmet off though we got to the very end I could not figure out how to unclip the helmet so I did the interview with a helmet on yeah they could not hear thing as well you hear me go oh the atmosphere was electric and I know he said the electric thing and then we um yeah we Kenny from South Park hanging out with us we to I finally I got someone to take my helmet off we drove the soap box down to the graveyard thing but they said they weren't going to break it we put it to one side it might be broken and then we had to run up the hill because we had to get on the live stream to do an interview straight afterwards yeah and oh my God you realize how far we came down Running Up That thing that it was 400 to 500 M back up a relatively Steep Hill on a very hot day we were exhausted from the day before and uh being out the night before and having the race and all that kind of stuff and in boiler suits and it was a hot day boiling I got so sweaty at the top we got to the top and we were like that was just a thoroughly unenjoyable experience but it was cool cuz there I heard I don't I think I told you at the time I heard a kid as we ran past he was like oh my God racers felt like an F1 driver in that moment yeah that really went straight to my head yeah I bet we felt a lot cooler than we probably looked just running around in boiler suits and I'm my Red Bull cap on we had shades on surprised he hasn't got that red bull cap on today by the way that thing you're going to have to peel that off his dead body I've been wearing it so much lady just cuz I I love it it's good for green screen stuff that is the one thing I I might start wearing cuts out the wispy hair yeah it cuts out the wispy hair which kind of ruin the illusion I've got that real issue whereas when you wear a cap it's like a smooth round thing and the green screen just looks much better I see my editors have all been like wear a cap as often as possible oh so they even so they tell you what to do huh you're not Char they do interesting well I keep my editors locked away and then I give them footage and they're like please I want to see my family please share an editor now no King yeah we do shout out king great honestly fantastic worker his work ethic he sent me a video and like couple hours later he was like actually here's a V2 I watched it back and I I could see some improvements I was like kind of mentality and he's not been editing for long either yeah so he's I think all selft talk cow's amazing as well they're both just great honestly yeah people listening a fascinated here about how much we love our tives yeah let's get back to the Red Bull so box race so then we did our interview at the very top which is when cuz we went down first so we were Then followed by all the other creators who did the race um we didn't really get to see them at the time cuz we were running up the the bloody Hill but um we got to the top they all slowly joined us did their interview and then it got revealed the scores so there were different categories we were like ranked on or scored on the first being performance and I I'm pretty sure the style of the cart comes into that as well yeah and so we what did we get like what was it 20 22 it was really bad 40 terrible score we got like a seven a six a three and a five something like that whoever gave us a three what's wrong with you huh they were grumpy though cuz I think chip and frezy got something like 39 and the guy that person gave them a nine apparently they were really mean scoring the whole time that's crazy but chip and fzy knew about the performance thing which we I know how they knew about that we had no idea chip and freezy raced as a box of 20 chicken McNuggets yeah and they brought like homemade barbecue sauce and just on each other yeah pry just poured it all over them it was good like as performances go that's like the best thing you can do yeah so they got a really great score like almost perfect just one guy dropped a mark on it um 39 out 40 but I feel like I feel like giving us a three was really harsh I know our performance wasn't great but the music was very fitting yeah and maybe we should have pretended we were on the moon with our jumping or something like walking like that he just had such a cool carard we had so little time to think about it yeah I feel like it was harsh though look at our car that was really cool yeah maybe we were also ranked harshly because we were the first creators to go down maybe maybe we would have got a better score if we were towards the end I don't know yeah maybe but um yeah we did really bad on that and then you get obviously score for your speed in finishing the race yeah which we smashed Everyone by like four four seconds or something or seven or eight yeah like seven or eight seconds Quicks first to second and the second fastest and I think Becky and pieace got a dnf finish either they hit a minute or they stopped completely yeah cuz they went over one of the jumps and then front end broke so the wheel wasn't really like or the front was touching the floor dragging across the floor so they just I felt bad for them they just ped all across but at least they got down in one piece that's the they were just in a pint glass yeah it was really cool and they had a they had a cool performance Becky poured pint on um pie which was funny um con and Jack had a cool performance they just had some Swagger about it like yeah it was cool oh yeah we got picked on the performance but they did struggle getting into the vehicle did they yeah CU it's really hard and narrow to get in um they got they everyone got all the way to the end by the way Colin Jack fell over at the end there thing just went on its side they they chose thinner Wheels I didn't think they were going to make it that far yeah they also had a really high center of gravity cuz their car was thin and quite tall yeah like if you looked at their car it looked like it wanted to fall over it was a bit like chitty chitty bang bang but like elongated yeah so they did really well to and they were drifting it as well it was drifting so they did really well to get to the bottom um but yeah we were like seven seconds quicker than seven or eight seconds quicker than the second fastest which was it chip and freezy or was it Con I think it might have been no chip and frezy was Heavy wasn't it to be fair so that would move um and then there was People's Choice which we said we won 49% and was those were those those three so I think the reason so we ended up coming third we came third out of the four I just think it wasn't like cuz we won two out of three categories you'd think we'd win but I think they gave they were sort of like weighted yeah so because we were so low on the performance us being ahead on the other two bits didn't pull us up enough I think it's really harsh I think it doesn't matter at all by the way I don't I don't care but I do think it's harsh that performance is weighted so heavily in comparison to like speed has got to be the most important thing yeah like it's a race I know that's that's the way we were looking at it that's because it's a race come on we were focus on the race as aspect obviously soap boxes isn't Formula 1 is supposed to be like a bit of fun cretive stuff which you do get um but yeah hard winning two out of three categories and winning the race comfortably well it was more like at in the moment when they were revealing who won out of us four I was thinking in my head oh we've definitely won yeah after winning we got like 50% of the votes for People's Choice so it was a landslide Victory they said and a landslide Victory on the speed so I was thinking we have smashed those two things so surely we've gained loads of points for that yeah and we came third I was like I'm actually quite shocked by that I in my head I was thinking oh my God we've won yeah but um no it was so means anything like there's I don't there's nothing for it yeah I was just surprised but genuinely so it was so good yeah it was it was definitely definitely one of the best things I've ever done I was so glad that we did it I can't wait for the proper video to come out and have it all like a documentary s of documented archive just being like Oh I can look back at that video that was a banger yeah oh it was it was really good um then we stuck around and watched some public racing um and yeah there was it was it was nice there was a nice like area where you could get food and stuff and the worms showed up oh yeah lots of the patreon supporters a couple of N and non patreon people showed up lots of podcast people I'm guessing everyone there was podcast listeners because I didn't really put it on any platform no I think it it was all podcast we spoken about on the on on the podcast and in the patreon group chat quite a lot yeah and that was pretty much it so thank you well regardless if it's yeah thank you guys for coming along cuz it was so nice speaking to everyone great really great to have your support um yeah and yeah you guys were there for most of the day just like stood by our um what do you call it Soap Box stood by our Soap Box we were coming over when we could to say hi and stuff yeah everyone got photos we oh my goodness quite a lot of people wanted us to draw tattoos for them oh dear and we are not artistic no we're close yeah I'm a letter away but I not draw sa in my life and I was like the only thing I could think of was the rocket emoji yeah that was pretty good to be fair I was trying to draw them but getting the three little things at the bottom and the fire I was like I was like show this to your artist and they'll get what I'm trying to draw yeah they'll understand I mean I just ended up drawing flowers CU it's the easiest thing to draw it's got nothing to do with me a lot of art what just happened you just got bored of your own conversation I just yawned I was hoping you take it off me really quickly cuz I yawned no someone asked for a cameo once where they were like can you draw something for us to do a tattoo and I did a a ringed planet oh nice and oh my goodness trying to get cuz obviously if you put the circle there first the ring that goes in front like cuts through lines and it looks crap so you've kind of got to start with the ring but obviously just as the ring curves back around you have to stop and then you have to imagine where the sphere is going to be and oh my goodness I burnt through about half this notebook trying to get one that just looks semi-reasonable so whoever invented Saturn fair enough yeah exactly that must have been difficult and Uranus yep that's also ringed yeah um many too many rings yeah I've got a ring do you oh yeah and that weekend batch proposed to me so I said yes no I'm talking about my ass what anyway um it was it was a different kind of proposition to the one you were thinking of yours is way cuter than mine and I said no oh hell no I just got that that's disgusting cuz I was like on Saturday night we were just chilling we were like go we're exhausted yeah and I was like do you want to just stay around and Bach was like yeah so we played fornite and watch scary movies yeah he took me to get sushi again yeah we went to sticks and Sushi again but I was like I kind of want to make more videos but we were just so tired yeah I it was too late you just what you made me watch horror stuff we we watched a bunch of scary videos on YouTube like real ghost sightings and short horror movies and I was like I've wanted to do videos like that with you ages I was like then was the perfect time but our energy was just shock yeah we'll do it we'll definitely do it another time though CU people just love that love that horror game yeah is entertaining to watch other people get scared people don't want to watch you have fun they want to watch you cringe and be scared people enjoyed us having fun of Minecraft true but you were scared of I died like five six times I'm not very good clearly everyone's making fun of me did I die once I didn't I don't think no but your spirit died at one point hell no my spirit my spirit was always my spirit were through the roof um when I was getting attacked by Leona Lewis and I was hiding in the house turns out Leona Lewis can't go in water so I should have just gone in water I saw that comment yeah thanks for that thanks for the comment I'm actually going to use that logic and I I already want to film episode three right now do you yeah it was so fun we'll do it this week actually it's so fun like I enjoy playing it we're just loading up M fil although he needs a he needs a setup can we can we tell this boy to put some money towards a proper setup he plays on his PlayStation so we have to play Bedrock Edition so I can't use my nice shaders that make the waters and everything look clean and all the like graphics and stuff you know the like it's T's water we're keeping it the graphics upgrades are insane look just just a bit enjoy a humble bit of like Minecraft where it's nostalgic not everything has to be polished yeah okay fine um but no it was it was really good fun and it is it is I do love that we can just do that kind of stuff and just play a game and it would be fun yeah um we can just like high five when we want yeah anyway um back to let's go back in time to um the end of the race he wet himself no he didn't he didn't no he didn't but um I just want to make sure that we covered everything no because we didn't speak about um the stunt the stunts oh yeah you should tell them about the stunt they they just flung on you they didn't tell you until yeah they didn't tell me about this before and they made me sign my rights away yeah and it it was they had already Ked off the live stream so you just had to do it yeah um we basically batch got nice one he got pulled aside and they were like oh is the driver we're testing your reflexes yeah and what did they do they so she dropped a ruler and you just had to grab the ruler um as soon as she dropped it and just see how many centimeters you let drop to judge your reaction time I didn't do I think I came second actually nice but on the practice I failed uh so I was like oh that was nice and peaceful and fun I wonder what mine's going to be and they get me and they they I put this heart monitor on and I was like what they put this heart monitor on me put me in the middle of this cage and this dude called like Douglas or something comes up in this massive dirt bike and just goes like I'll lie down in the middle and I was like I know exactly where this is going got R to me and Jack just start planking and he's sort of in this giant he giant of a man I swear he's like 6'4 in this massive dirt bike and he's sort of there like on one wheel bouncing the like wheel like an inch from my head and I'm like if he just if anything misjudges he crushes my skull yeah like we we we lose one of the Bright Young talents of this generation and you as well wait what do you mean well they'd get Jack and you oh yeah yeah good old Jack and then then he was doing like wheelies around your head like just driving past full speed past his head yeah it was giving me the E actually see lie down there insane and I was just like well I'm playing it cool cuz that's like the name of the game it'd be cringe if I got up and I mean they they even said that if you get up you're at risk of just getting your head whacked cuz he's like an inch within your head so if you move it until you die yeah um and for like a minute he just did this and bounced around and yeah you were down there for a hot minute yeah we were there for ages just getting driven around I thought oh this is just getting this is just cruel now yeah I mean the poor boy is just lying there with a boner by the way uh because he gets that happens when he gets scared just why you think I keep getting you for horror games oh no i h on a Bo so he's just doing circling circling circling around Arthur on the floor it just I just felt a bit sorry for him in the end yeah uh so that was terrifying but good F night you know I'm up for anything I did realized the other day I'm just one of his friends who's just up for thing yeah you are actually someone could be like hey we're going to sit inside and watch movies tonight I be like fine or they can be like come on man we're robbing a bank I'm like cool they'll be like come on going glamping for the weekend do you is that real though if I said or okay let's go and watch the Euros tonight fine let's do it England England this is the last night of the group stage and all of a sudden the mood is really dead because we're just through now we've not played well either it's been pathetic there I said it and Harry Kane when you finally come on this podcast I've got some strong words to have with you mine mine Reserve is Gareth Southgate and not bringing BR and not playing kobby Mayu okay sorry Harry Kane actually way he's playing phenomenally to be not as if we're missing him but I'm mad at you Southgate yeah Italy um not playing too bad oh my goodness you're Italian did you watch the game last night and they scored the 90th plus eight to go through 98th minute it was the draw against Croatia oh that was heartbreaking poor the thing is they probably would have gone through anyway as one of the people third but um it's nice to confirm it you know yeah those moments of elation just so hard I think Italy just like a decent Striker anyway we won't bore you with football because a lot of people probably don't care about football yeah um but yeah I mean I'm getting into F1 now yes you are you watch drive to survive right yeah I've been watching drive to surv I need to get on that I really want to watch that um and hence why the Red Bull so box race I was really in I was really in my element Because You Loved does it make you love Red Bull as well the driver to survive does it follow a particular team it follows the mall and to be honest I haven't really got like a team I really um it's not like I really want to see this team win it's more people that you care about it's good to see Red Bull doing well but um I like Lando do you yeah you're Lando Norris enjoyer I'm a Lando enjoyer I like them all to be fair from what I've seen I like I get I like Char all oh cuz he kind he kind of looks like Charles mclair uh yeah I get uh Lando Norris a lot people always say like L nor I'm not sure about that boy and uh obviously like V stappen red the Red Bull goat what batch V stappen high five what does that even mean batch for steppen me batch for steppen batch for steppen me instead of Max for Sten batch for Sten it's one of the only times that batch really goes into anything batch for Sten what do people nickname you at school get tuna boy cuz I've brought in tuna fish boy uh right I was going duckling I was going for more names like name related like okay because I was oh name related I was I was called nothing I was just called Arthur I don't know why I said it like that I was called Nothing me yeah had no friends at school no I didn't really people would say ice as a joke ice yeah I just I didn't like not having a cool nickname name my sister one of my sisters calls me Izzy that's really cringe and feminine yo she watches these which is fine yo she watches these apologize down the lens right now I apologize nothing cuz it is it was true it was my truly held opinion and you should never apologize for being yourself sometimes she calls me Elizabeth as well what and I don't really know where she got that from she started that was a good what what yeah she watches it where she works as she was working she'll have it on Gizzy by the way I didn't get cancelled for what Sunday came out where I waterboarded Chris I haven't watched that and I was seriously worried I was genuinely like I thought you know just some people on the internet can be real yeah cuz they might be like oh you're making fun of water boarding people actually die from water boarding that's not what I exactly what I meant oh because okay you can't waterboard Chris because he doesn't like water and some people have been drowned before no okay of course because because you shouldn't do water boarding because it's like saying this is something you should it's really on impressionable fans and they'll be like okay I'm going to water board my mom tonight right maybe maybe that was like oh you shouldn't do that on to an impression I'm going to cancel you right now in that case um but no I I I just thought people would be like oh that was so mean of him they're not friends like just you know when you don't really know I mean obviously anyone who's seen Chris and videos knows how much abuse he puts me through I mean that guy abuse shs down on my neck like there's no tomorrow he's just I I'll just be chilling mid shootting he'll just go on my traps I mean granted they're juicy like they're nice muscular defined um have you ever thought you might just be a vampire I don't know hiding in plain sight you know you've got two Pierce marks right there you getting sucked by you've got really garlicky breath so I don't think I could be a a vampire cuz otherwise let's not start rumors like that otherwise I'd run there's not start rumors like that yeah my breath smells like daisies rainbows fairy tales I'm always chewing gum you are always chewing gum you're a real gum chewer yeah it Bo it boosts your confidence it's like putting a pair of sunglasses on I'm glad you don't do it on the podcast that would be the most annoying thing to listen to I have done it before but I just tuck it into my teeth like snz you don't mean that it's gum you don't mean that it's gum it's just weird you don't mean that it's gum gum started freaking out you know we were speaking about eggs the other day when you you're Midway through eating heads and you're like wait up yeah that's a period something ain't right that's a menstrual cycle raor and you're like yeah well that weirdly makes me like it more it's more than I knew you were a feminist me too come on yeah um we do like to bring awareness to the fact that women exist and have Cycles cuz I I I mentioned menstrual cycles all the time and I in one of my YouTube videos I was like I've got to stop saying menstrual cycles drop a comment if you think I should stop saying menual cycle everyone's like no and someone's like no it actually feels kind of feminist in a weird way cuz you're bringing light to the fact of cuz not everyone knows that women have I think everyone knows women have periods I found out 3 days ago watching your video you thought they had penis what I just thought they merely existed they merely exist in a in a realm Between Heaven and Hell where somewhere I love doesn't exist what the hell is this guy talking about women only exist in heaven women are heaven on Earth in my opinion how does that song Go heaven heaven for what it's worth women are heaven on Earth women are heaven on Earth brother in Christ you don't know what you're talking about right now I feel like we're getting on to Serious brain rot have you got anything else this is a rare batch prepared actually been praying preparing a lot um all of the episodes lately we've actually yeah hence why the quality's increased um no you just you do stuff in a different way I like like reading and talking reading well next episode's prepared by by Arthur and we'll be filming this directly after this one yeah we're doing complet transparency cuz batch is way on holiday and I'm going to be honest because I'm not I've not brought a spare pair of clothes anyway yeah me neither I don't want to hear no comments like why is he wearing that shirt again well they should be comenting CU alth this on an episode before quite frankly Arthur is either can I just say by the way I predicted what you were going to be wearing on the Red Bull meal I said Arthur will turn up in Black corduroy shorts um and a cream beige top shirt either worn as an overshirt with a white t-shirt underneath or just a shirt that's exactly what you were that's true I mean I have two other pairs of shorts I had a black like pair that were like had textured but the waistband thing snapped hard to find a good pair of shorts and then I had a nice like cream beige pair yeah um but they were just like I don't know linen and just ended up being a bit too and take it from a guy a sleepover with him he doesn't take them off he showers in them he goes me to take them off he was like take them off take them off take them off and I was like leave me alone yeah I was like please wash please wash you were just misreading me I wasn't saying take them off I was like please wash please wash anyway I I got the um I went into the patreon chat o uh little plug if you want to join the patreon go ahead there's a chat you get early access to episodes they get uploaded all the time and Bullies me in it yeah I do speak in there a fair amount um and I said to them we're filming two pods today can you guys reply to this message with any questions you have about the Red Bull Soapbox race we're going to be doing a whole episode on it uh because I thought there might be you know they might want to know more information on how it was built or how we were feeling and stuff and we could just give us some insight to that we've just explained the day how cool it was blah blah blah but they want to know the BTS let's see how insightful their questions can be okay did you hurt your nose that's [ __ ] rude no I didn't that obviously pointed at you no I didn't to be fair I did we had said in an episode prior that there was no foam and we are going to smash our faces in they put foam in we had good helmets on but we didn't actually crash so yeah we didn't crash so although his coxic bone is in pain yeah my coxics I'm absolutely fine because I'm not weak that's your tailbone um may ask for us highly evolved Apes that was from Brooke by the way I'll say names shout outs May says how SL why did you decide to build a rocket why I guess cuz it's very on brand for us have a look at our mugs yep yeah I mean we're just we're were're a Spacey themed podcast for no apparent reason we genely I'm sure we said in the earlier episodes we had no plans to be themed and bats just randomly one day went let's just make it space themed I just think it's cool yeah me I just think we both think it's cool we do we just need a cool set I think most of the things we do is because we think oh that's cool like the Soap Box we thought oh it'd be cool if we did a a ship or a ufi yeah just cuz it just cuz it's funny someone actually messaged in for the next one I've got like the submissions from the normal submissions page which everyone can enter just go to our any of our socials at Bach and arur and in the link there's like a a link tree and one of them is the submissions form and they were like what is your target audience because I can't really figure it out and I'm studying media at the moment target audience is such a big thing and I was like we don't have one we just come on talk about whatever we find interesting yeah and just hope that some people agree yeah and the people who do listen are actually very um diverse yeah and intelligent and cool and good looking and all this yeah um so yeah no um yeah and it's weird because we're not sitting there going oh let's talk about this to appeal to this audience which I think is I mean somehow it works so thank you guys for tuning into thanks cuz I think if you analyzed it in like a media class and it was like oh one minute you're doing brain rot meme references and the next you're talking about s men and then the next we're talking about Greek philosophy and the next one like Roman Parables and then religion they'd be like well someone's going to listen to the one episode like it and then not like the rest yeah but for some reason people just like listening to it all really I think we just decided that we're just going to do what we want like yeah whatever we enjoy yeah like whatever we enjoy and whatever we F feel like talking about we're just going to do it because if you want to enjoy something you've like if you want this if we want this podcast to continue we've got to enjoy it and if we're looking at it tactically like Oh Let's do an episode on this so we can boost our audience in this demographic it will start to feel like a like a real job well like you know I've heard from other people that do podcasts that their producers will be like today you're having this guest on and they're like well I've never watched the show they're on or Never follow them don't care about the story but I've got to do it's nice that we kind of have a just able to just go oh whatever and I do think the stuff we talk about is interesting broadly like if you're someone who like whenever we meet or speak to anyone who watches the podcast they're always like oh I love like these types of interesting discussions I feel like if you have a generally curious mind yeah like if if people who are listening to this and enjoy it are going to be similar to us in that respect and they you know even if they don't have a an interest in any of the particular like they might be like oh I love hearing about religion I'm a curious person but they don't care about Greek philosophy yeah or anything when we speak about the ship of thesis they're still like oh it's an interesting thought like it's an interesting thought so if you're one of those types of people like us then all that kind of stuff is interesting I guess thus our our demographic is people who just have similar interests to us yeah or like have a similar outlook on life or yeah that's the thing it's not even like it's just it's the broad value of curiosity I think who just like they like to laugh they like a bit of Comedy cuz we even get people who disagree with us and they're like oh I'm religious I completely disagree with this all but it was so interesting to listen to and so they're not listening because we're speaking about things that they find um they agree with or they enjoy you know but they're going like oh like I like the way these topics are approached or the way this is discussed and yeah so yeah hopefully we'll try and keep that up um hey no way we're going to brain Rock 24/7 after here or no anyway um Connie asked what was your top speed we don't actually know but what did you think it was 30 well when we passed we passed the speed gate at what will be one of the fastest points and that was 30 okay mil K yeah km pH um Leia says do you think you were going to make it to the Finish Line did you think you were going to make it to the Finish Line I genuinely um did not think we were going to make it past the chicane to be honest yeah cuz I didn't realize the course was as wide as it was however the as narrow as it was you mean actually yeah yes and no the thing is it's like driving a car when you're in a car it looks like you're you're bigger than the road but actually you can fit in much smaller of a gap than you expect yourself to be able to and so when you're actually in the soap box when we were doing the chicane in my head I thought we're going to catch one of the hay bals and go flying but actually although it was actually pretty close watching it back it felt like I had enough room to get round and stuff well two hay bals we did fully slic through well yeah if the wings were like flat fronted we would have we could have just spun out flown but because the wings were just like yeah we the first one and then the second one we through that yeah um but in no I didn't think we were going to make it down in one piece to be honest I thought either we'd get to the end and there' be damage or we'd fall over at the end or we just wouldn't make it to the end cuz it's not a like it more often than not you don't make it to the end yeah so I thought statistically I didn't I didn't think we were going to make it to the end so I was surprised were you or not it's so funny because at the start you're like I really don't know but be when you're going down it's so fast and you've got to think a lot like yeah I was just constantly thinking like just monitoring whether we were going too fast or not to be like bring the speed down ever so slightly and it's everything's happening so fast you don't have time to think oh are we going to make it like any hypotheticals it's just uh pull the break break on break off break off oh my goodness are we going to make this corner are we going to too fast at how are we doing like all this kind of stuff's rushing through your head I didn't even think about it I was no so yeah I had no thoughts in my head either I think we were just on reflex at that point yeah because every yeah like Arthur said everything's coming at you so quick like before the chane I thought I had enough time to put my hand up and wave and I was like [ __ ] no I don't yeah so that's when I came back onto the wheel and did that so we really don't have much time in that thing um then Phoenix asks what was the hardest and easiest part of the creative process oh hard po was coming up with an idea for what we wanted to do as the car because we took ages like they were asking us for the design for so long and we were like we really don't know it is hard when you can do literally anything it's like the classic situation where you've got too much Choice yeah so you can't make a decision and neither necessarily creative creative types yeah so we and also it's it's difficult as well when there's two people because obviously if one person wants to do something we we agreed yeah we we didn't have any friction on what we wanted to do we because we both didn't really have an idea but you've got to make sure that what one person comes up with the other person's happy to do um but I think from the go we just suggested either a space shuttle or UFO we were both happy with those two ideas and then we had a look at some pictures and we thought okay let's go for a space sh that was it yeah so I think that um it was hard in the beginning but to to be honest the decision process was pretty easy for us in the end I do think the hardest part although that was hard I think what was harder for us was probably um building the chassis don't you think it was harder than the woodwork yeah that's probably true cuz we didn't have any engineer assistance with the underly car yeah the actual chassis itself we just had bits like we didn't have instructions for half of it we were in in a big Warehouse with just a bunch of nuts bolts rods	daisies rainbows fairy tales I'm always chewing gum you are always chewing gum you're a real gum chewer yeah it Bo it boosts your confidence it's like putting a pair of sunglasses on I'm glad you don't do it on the podcast that would be the most annoying thing to listen to I have done it before but I just tuck it into my teeth like snz you don't mean that it's gum you don't mean that it's gum it's just weird you don't mean that it's gum gum started freaking out you know we were speaking about eggs the other day when you you're Midway through eating heads and you're like wait up yeah that's a period something ain't right that's a menstrual cycle raor and you're like yeah well that weirdly makes me like it more it's more than I knew you were a feminist me too come on yeah um we do like to bring awareness to the fact that women exist and have Cycles cuz I I I mentioned menstrual cycles all the time and I in one of my YouTube videos I was like I've got to stop saying menstrual cycles drop a comment if you think I should stop saying menual cycle everyone's like no and someone's like no it actually feels kind of feminist in a weird way cuz you're bringing light to the fact of cuz not everyone knows that women have I think everyone knows women have periods I found out	8	6	4	daisies rainbows fairy tales I'm always chewing gum you are always chewing gum you're a real gum chewer yeah it Bo it boosts your confidence it's like putting a pair of sunglasses on	I'm glad you don't do it on the podcast that would be the most annoying thing to listen to I have done it before but I just tuck it into my teeth like snz you don't mean that it's gum you don't mean that it's gum it's just weird you don't mean that it's gum	8,6,5	-3,-2,4	8	6	5	-3	-2	4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0g_xJvKEb8	4,108	-0g_xJvKEb8	2024-06-27 00:00:00	[Music] what's up everybody welcome back to episode 14 of the batch and Arthur podcast yay go thanks for joining everyone we have something to reveal yes we do I know you guys don't like it when Arthur has his mug on the couch because he tends to drop things don't you never dropped anything actually okay you dropped that th done remember that well you might have noticed I also have my mug on the sofa mhm wondering why who wants to know why should we tell them something to do with one like equals one Lara maybe something to do with that exactly you guys ready see what you reveal go way for audio listeners we have white mugs with our little cartoon characters on them that's right little will I didn't want to Cheers you and I've got my little handsome space guy come on yeah Lara surprised us with these this is a gift um mine shatterproof as well apparently oh it's not sh yeah he's got a plastic mug because we know what he's like I've sippy C the audio listeners actually little rubber cppy cup with two handles well actually when Arthur drinks from a mug show them how you do it I'll I'll commentate for this he uses two hands so he grabs on the like handle and then he grabs the other hand I drink everything with two hands especially tea and Pints yeah I don't really know what is there a reason for that or not safety I guess twice as balanced is that really if one arm stops working the other one's there as a fail safe well there you go that's why he does it guys so it makes sense all after all yeah um speaking of batch and Arthur this podcast design right here yeah this has been plasted on something recently what our rocket ship oh yeah guys we just got back from the Red Bull Soap Box race and we're alive 2024 we genuinely were not sure we were going to survive no I was but we did really scared we we turned up we got to see other people's cards um and there was basically two things going on so there's like a public race and then the Creator race was like a separate thing which is streamed on YouTube If you go on Red Bull's um YouTube channel and you go on under the live tab you can actually watch the full thing yeah we were like a half time race yeah it was Bas half time show yeah there was a few people who weren't happy about the Creator's uh racing cuz they thought we were mixed in with the public but it's like a whole separate thing like we can't win any awards over the public or anything like that yeah um but but we won the hearts of the public come on yeah we did win the hearts of the public there was a a couple of things that you were like rated on as creators and one of them was People's Choice and we got a landslide victory of 44% yeah it actually ended up on 49% 50% out of four teams we got 49 everyone rounds 49 thank you to everyone who voted for us we one of four teams but we're up against chip and freezy who have a big loving audience Becky and pieace who audience and then con from the siden huge loving audience and the guy who's our cameraman on the train video the siden that's right Jack was there as well went to with con they had cool out but uh we we got to Ali p uh that's my first time there you've been there before actually I think we should start the day before okay let's let's reel that [ __ ] back because we had another sleepover kind of yeah we did have another let's just say oh no we didn't really a hotel yeah we did not have a sleepover but what did we do where did we first meet we we met at the we met at the hotel at the hotel dropped our bags off Adam was there he's the Red Bull guy that was been looking after us and he took all the creators out to dinner yeah we to find the tell first yeah chopped a pint um both hands come on yeah then we got in a taxi we went to dinner we had a create a dinner um what did you eat pizza yeah I had a really really hot hot pizza but the thing I was enjoying the most was the football we had a massive screen in front of us oh yeah cuz France were playing Netherlands NE scen I felt kind of harsh cuz the the table was positioned in a way that only half of us could see the football and the other half were just watching us watching football yeah but no he they were watching a react video basically they got to see us live reacting In the Flesh um but the meal was really good the food was really good uh Jake was struggling Jake the guy works with um Arthur they both got the same Pizza he was struggling with the heat yeah he was [ __ ] [ __ ] struggling with the Pint as well got two pints steep was steaming no cuz he was so in denial Jake yeah Jake had a couple pints and he was gone we were like you are drunk he like I am not drunk and he was getting angry mad I'm not even drunk he's I haven't even done anything later he's doing karaoke so that's belting out karaoke with his phone to the to the mic with with voice note on my God it's so that was you singing those Tunes to someone yeah we yeah CU you've been to a place before should we say the name of the place or not I actually I don't remember it anyway okay we went to this place anyway Arthur's been there before it's um like a karaoke bar with uh like an arcade and bowling and there's a dance floor and like a bar and stuff like that yeah very good fun we all went there did some karaoke went there for Arthur Hill's birthday that's how I found out about it what a place it is a cool place actually um yeah did a bit of karaoke we were in there for a couple hours doing karaoke in the end yeah um belting at tunes by the way batch can sing No Arthur can sing yeah but I think people would assume that from but that goes without saying no but but Frank Sinatra came on and oh my goodness batch was just cooking that thing anyone can sing Frank arra welcome back Frank Sinatra he died and this is him reborn wasn't wasn't he heavily involved with the mafia Frank Sinatra so are you you're a quter Italian that's true but I can't admit that no not legally anyway oops they're going to come and get me try and come and get me watch me beat beat you all up actually I shouldn't say what if they do don't come and get me please I was just kidding I've got nothing to do with him he lives on 32 Italian back street oh my god that actually is my house number H what don't say that it's not that's my apartment number as well no we you're not finding out where we live um I'm going to move in with Arthur anyway we moved in together on Minecraft yeah sort of anyway back to karaoke we had fun at karaoke then we went home we didn't get back till 3:00 a.m. silly move because we had to be up early yeah we had it well not that early we had 10: a.m. taxi picks up yeah but we met at breakfast at 9:30 it was the most romantic breakfast of my life yeah um and then stayed at the Hilton Red Bull of class they put us in there they also like what a lovely experience not only did they take us to dinner they they paid for karaoke and everything like that they covered everything shout out to Red Ball I'm going to crack One open right now and they're actually delicious all these colored red balls my actual favorite is the summer edition you guys should actually try this this is not sponsored but I'm just saying this is not even the first thing I I did I went to salburg in Austria and did some Red Bull salburg video shooting with Chris MD um we did like penal sh outs in games with mads bistrup for their YouTube channel and then did a video in it was the the final one of christed uh every time you beat a Defender the defender gets upgraded that's right yeah and we start off with like Harry R Shaw as the worst Defender when all the way up to Champions League mads bistr who fantastic player I mean yeah you realize how like when you watch t uh football on TV you think oh I could do that yeah but then if you see a actual Pro in real life yeah like that makes sense why you went pro now actually we need to do more charity so that was fun that was fun there are a lot going on it's just timings cuz there's so many things going on during summer and that's usually when charity matches go down yeah but you got to work in the schedules either you're away or I'm away or there's a brand trip or something has to be submitted in time was crazy yeah but um no I'm sure we're going to do a lot more stuff with Red Bull as well so that's exciting um but anyway we then got the taxi to Alex Alexandra Palace Ali pal come on and um I've only just realized that's why it's Ali P really yeah I just thought that Ali P was the hill and Alexandre Palace was no way Ali now I've just heard it okay that's Ali P right anyway U you almost did a off the TV intro that right right so then we uh we got into the race so no we got into the Zone where the race was going on yeah and we got to have a little scout out all the public submitted soap boxes some really cool stuff in there yeah although there was one weird one because we rock up and there are like four girls gathered around water is essentially a double bed one girl just tucked up and you back like oh this is cool and she was like yeah it's really cozy get in we were like no I I ain't doing all that I'm sure though that you know that wasn't actually her like lying in it yeah I know you could tell something was weird under the covers but I was not getting involved what what what the hell um oh you can't see my soundboard I've got to pull this back so I can soundboard here yeah he hasn't got a soundboard yet thank goodness although I should no they all see the comments by the way Lara and Arthur see the comments and Lara even said into the group chat she was like I think we need to get bat of soundboard because of all the comments she sent me a message being like listen we've got one purchase a year we can authorize either we get cool mugs or batch gets a soundboard and I was like mugs mugs oh hell no I just think it's so much funnier when you do it yourself and go to I do think so but this is going to get worn down and eventually there's going to be a Hole uh oh audio listeners don't know what I'm doing I I just I pretend there's a soundboard and I just push the sof and make my I do it as well I do it in real life I'll be speaking to people when I'm BR but it doesn't make his much sense in real life just in a conversation he's just air poking stuff as he goes brh you know what's so funny as well I showed batch this someone one of you guys one of our listeners because cuz I you do it quite a lot but I do it all the time at you do the what yeah what that thing someone did a Tik Tok called whatting people in public so she goes into this petrol station goes to pay she goes like how much is that and he goes like Oh 1350 and she just goes what loud so loud just yells it in this man's face and everyone was like bad bad you guys have to recreate this it was so funny yeah and then Arthur was like we've got to do this we've got I don't know if I have the like what is it um social confidence to do that I'd be able to do it not yell it I thought it was a bit rude though the loud yelling not in a bad I'm not criticizing you I just able to do that like that myself I'd be like what I think sorry you got no no soup of the day what what when you have a camera on you though that you get a new found confidence in public like I found no no no in general I don't know if you agree with this in like a sidan video I Feel Like rules don't apply like social rules then don't apply cuz you've got a camer on you and you can do what you want whatever you want yeah I've only recently started being able to finally find it within myself to Vlog like when we were at wagas I was like this is actually fine yeah whereas before IID look at people vlogging in public and I go I admire you a lot cuz I can never do that it helps having people around you yeah although I feel like we do it with our phones it's a bit easier that's true whereas if people with their cameras out like facing their way I'm like oh my goodness I'd be so embarrassed yeah I think I would be as well especially if you got like a big rig on the end of that thing people are just admiring you your rig yeah both of them come on anyway um what speaking of the soap boxes that we saw um there was this one there was like these four guys like lying down chilling and they had this like Dome oh yeah which was kind of like a I guess like a spa you know the space shuttles that come down to earth it kind of looked a bit like that didn't yeah um like a landing module yeah like a landing module and they what did what did they make it off fiberglass or something yeah oh my God you could smell it from where we were still and they were like stick your head in that so we stuck it you stuck your head in first took a whiff and I did it afterwards oh my God dizzying genuinely dizzying I'm high I'm still high from that moment if anyone's ever been in like a a surfboard shop where they like make the surfboards yeah it smells like that it just smell exactly like that and they bizarre I just burped on I thought that was what that was that was disgusting hopefully that didn't get picked up apologize sorry guys sorry if you heard that cut that out anyway um it's not getting cut uh it they had to spend the whole run down in that thing so I think those guys are a little bit waved yeah I'm glad we I'm glad we were just a team of two and had two seats because I kind of felt bad some people that pushed the Soap Box thing down yeah like running after it for like 50 meters and it was a hot day that's true like um most people was like a team of four and two would push two would be in it I think that's standard isn't it to have two people in the so box and then a team that will push and Chase it down probably chase down chip and freezies yeah funny it was funny as well the way he was running because I guess it was like a it was like Looney Tunes the way he had his arms up like that chasing them down to be fair there are people I felt more bad for he talking about some of the injuries of the day oh my God and this is the thing like good gosh man we were already nervous then we were then we got to S see our um vehicle which they had made some mods to by the way so put me at ease a little bit they put foam in the place where my head would smash oh yeah so I felt about that yeah um they didn't they were going to cut out the wheel arches so we could turn more but they didn't I'm glad they I actually think that worked in our favor in it did um and they were actually slagging it off when it went up on towards stage they were speaking about it on Mike and they were like they can't turn properly they can't see over it and I was thinking oh no they're slagging off our thing they were talking about our buckets on the back and stuff I don't know if they were slagging off the buckets or just speaking about I just heard bucket like they're talking about ours oh my god um but it actually worked in favor and then there was screens up showing the first runs and it took a while it like an hour or two after we got there till the first run um but did you see the Sheep one no I didn't see any of the big ones but that's a bad one there was a sheep we I was watching a sheep go down um it was just before you did your stunt I think and it got all the way to the end and then at full speed flipped over onto their necks and I think it was one of them that broke their collarbone and it looked awful and after seeing that me and pieace was stood together we were like I we genuinely don't want to go down after seeing that he was [ __ ] it I was [ __ ] it um and then not only that I think other people must have like been bruised or whatever but the other big one that we heard about is we when we got to the start line we were there waiting for like 10 minutes and it was cuz the person who went down before us got knocked out so that's crazy yeah which I didn't see I don't think we'll ever see any footage of that but I don't know what vehicle it was or anything I just heard that they got knocked out that's why we were up there for ages yeah I mean it was going down insanely fast yeah it look I mean it looks quick on camera but it doesn't look nearly as quick as it feels yeah when you're in that thing oh my goodness and you can barely see in front of you you're bouncing all over the place you're hitting these jumps there are bits where there's foam that like splashes you in the face you have a few seconds of blindness yeah it's mental it it to best describe it definitely feels faster than sitting in a car at 60 MPH I'd say faster than it feels sitting in a car going 100 yeah cuz you're so exposed to we've never gone 100 I've been on the auto bar in Germany okay fair um but yeah you're exposed so it just feels so quick but we were quick insanely Qui insanely quick I think everyone we were the first of the creators to go up everyone thought we were going to just crash yeah or just be crap and slow there was so many comments so many DMs I got afterward was like [ __ ] fair enough before we even went down though before we get cuz we we will react we'll show you us going down yeah but I think we should tell them actually maybe should we hit play and then we'll pause at certain bits to be like explainer yeah I'll tell you what it plays it goes all the way through and then they do it in slow-mo afterwards we can on the slow-mo we'll do some explanation okay here we go batch and Arthur we had the podcast sticker oh it was such a good sticker on the side which was really cool and they zoomed in out loads for the YouTube video which is great yeah was all over the stream which was ideal although you cannot see podcast there until someone shads over it yeah someone's just shattering we were stood up there for ages genuinely yeah because someone had just been knocked out looking down this hill that was just so steep it's not funny but look at that thing that's so impressive it's so well built I can't believe it and I'm I'm gutted because I actually wanted to say to the we had a little bit of help from the Red Bull Engineers yeah I wanted to say thank you to them more just be like what did you see that that was really good yeah if anyone knows anything by any chance please pass on our thanks because yeah they they helped us hopefully they watched it and saw a great deal uh but we did do a lot I mean we did spend two full days building this thing and printing it up and stuff so yeah which you'll obviously see in the Vlog I'll talk about I'll talk about something later cuz there's um this was posted to Tik Tok and there's some funny comments on there really basically yeah basically calling us desk dwellers what so this is our performance so this performance we didn't know we no was supposed to do we we were told to choose a piece of music so we chose something like Space Odyssey style but we had no idea that meant we had to perform yeah and like like she's saying like there are points for performance and we knew about 10 minutes beforehand that this 30 second period of Music we'd have to Performance so we were like let's just do something simple gum shields in the mouth bow and get in and they were harsh they gave us a three but that also also counts to the way the vehicle looks so I think three is Harsh yeah but here we go performance score 22 poor but this is when we started racking up speed the steering was really weird as well cuz it changed as we got quicker and we were just bouncing as we went down like we'd hit a ramp and oh my goodness like almost front flipped that around we Whi around the corner and our our genuine one of our wings like clipped a ha Bell and just sliced through it that one sliced through the hay Bell I was thinking as we came down I swear I would have hit that side had I not hit that side and then nailed the braking and you said you could smell burnt rubber when you were breaking on that thing cuz I was like tickling the brakes like before a jump every now and then I do one all as we approached the chicane I pulled it yeah um but they said as we were going down in the commentary like yeah oh this feels fast usually you're hitting like low 20s here and it comes up on the side and we're hitting 30 km an hour yeah we were going and we were oh my goodness I'm glad you didn't break touch the break though we didn't need it yeah yeah I mean you did a did a little bit but I mean the others obviously touched it a lot more yeah I basically kept us at a speed where I was like this is very close to the line of like where we can make this corner at the speed because at the end of the day as a race and I was like we don't want to get up at the end and just be like oh like a couple of the soite boxes made it halfway down and just like stopped completely yeah and they were like having to like like I don't know like Shake It Forward it's so awkward like we did speak and we did say we'd actually rather crash going pretty quick than come to a grinding hle because it's just not good material yeah like we did it for Content wants to see that it's for a video we know representing creators at half time yeah so many people watching we've got a space shuttle that is designed at a velocity of 17,000 500 mph yeah so we were like you know hitting to be honest when they gave us those uh cuz we asked for special helmets that covered the face yeah when they gave me that I felt invincible and I thought oh [ __ ] it and we had gum Shields that we like ped poured into boiling water molded them before and molded them so we we felt pretty safe yeah I mean but still at 30 we weren but I don't have miles hour or kilm an hour I think it was mph I actually do really yeah but whatever it is at 30 like genuinely like just whacking your head against something solid is well I mean someone did get knocked out and broke it was terrifying yeah they they then do a slow-mo okay let's watch the slow-mo and we can break down exactly because I was thinking there was a point in the chicane when we really Whi round I was thinking why did that happen it was because the back right wheel wasn't on the ground when we were coming up to the chicane so when it touched the the ground it turned us into a corner so I was like [ __ ] and I had to spin it around one way and then back around the other way oh that's why we had that major wobble yeah and you can see it it's like it's cuz one of the wheels wasn't on the ground okay let's let's watch and like in the first one we'll try and go for the audio listeners kind of describe what we're seeing yeah so the first jump yeah we it was a heavy a heavy bit of Kit as well we definitely had one of the heavier ones it and it was like so we got through here the back that wheel wasn't on the ground so like had to correct it well the chicane of just having to go really quick left and then really quick right after yeah and then this pit we hit a bunch of stairs and bch basically grinds on the right hand of them it's cuz afterwards we had to be on the right hand side so I was thinking I can't turn directly after I'm going to have to turn on the ramp like the CL the the course is split in two with like steps on the left and straight on the right and we go down the steps but like half dangling off yeah you have a choice whether to do jumps or not obviously we were going to do the jumps cuz you get docked time um no they add time on if you go round cuz it's a bit unfair yeah but we you were just like let's head it yeah and after the first jump it it looks like we really jump around I don't know about you but in it it didn't feel that bad I I think I'm the exact opposite cuz I was going flying and my bum still Hur May was our positioning or cuz I was holding on to this when yeah I had nothing to hold on to I was just sat on a blue seat I re yeah I reckon that's what it was cuz it kept me like sort of planted you fix and you're in the center so with us like when when you go off the Jump the nose sort of goes down yeah it did and then the back col kicks up into the air and then slams down and because I'm at the back you really got you know I've got a lot further to fall and I just got whacked and my butt like when I sit on the sofa like no I can feel it bruised on I was actually un unscared I was absolutely fine yeah God it was um after that first jump though I got a lot more confidence in the run I was thinking oh that was fine I can we can do all the [ __ ] jumps yeah I just got full speed no I rate it I'm so glad you just sent it cuz and you I mean you didn't have a choice sending it yeah you just you na yeah exactly you could SL down but uh I they miked us did they mic you up CU they miked me up but I said nothing the whole run yeah why would you you couldn't because the thing is I was so focused I think it's because we went so quick because there's a Red Bull posted a video on their Tik Tok page where because they miked up chip and freezy and um it's off chip speaking to freezy and he's like on the brakes off the brakes okay we're going to go around this now and I think it's CU they were using the brakes and communicating about the brakes that they had stuff to say but because we were just you told me before you weren't going to touch the brake so I thought okay he's really not there's no point saying anything and you know whether it's a Brak or not so I was just thinking I'm just going to drive I was literally only thinking like I'm only going to slow us down if I feel like at this speed we either can't hit that jump properly or can't go around the corner and I was just tickling it and it was only at the end like I was like I've got to wait until we cross the finish line before I can break and I just Ram it and because it was a friction break it's like literally a metal bar that just pulls down onto both of the rear wheels it just starts smelling like burning rubber actually nailed that was so good though cuz we literally landed after that last jump we landed and I was like [ __ ] the Finish is right there and all I could hear was I just knew he pulled that thing so hard we came around the corner and didn't touch a single thing because he broke just in time yeah and the thing was untouched like the they said they it could get sent back to one of us so I send it to my house um I got I didn't tell you this yet I got a DM from someone saying I'm just about to watch your soap box get destroyed what no it's been graveyard we took it to a graveyard but we put it to one side no they told us we could have it uh yeah oh the guy might be lying I I pray he is cuz that's so harsh but I saw it in the DM request I was like [ __ ] surely not we should M message Adam but I think a big part of the reason we couldn't speak or do much else is because we weren't so full s we did that in 36 seconds chip and freezy were the second fastest in our group I think and they were 44 seconds yeah so we were we were literally seven or eight seconds I mean I don't exactly know what their milliseconds were but we were seven or eight seconds faster than them and I mean the difference like you watch them go down and they're sort of doing a decent speed but I thought them being go- karters you know they've got their Senor frogs they race every year yeah I was like they're going to bomb it too yeah but they kind of just played it relatively safe I mean good time time but like I do think we we absolutely Center and we had this guy come up to us at the end like should you say yeah say and this guy comes up to us and go don't like freak out now or anything um but we're checking because we genuinely think this was one of the fastest of all time yeah like fastest soap boxes ever he thought we hit the world record run right there and then and they cuz they had to check them by the millisecond yeah and we were a fraction of a second off being the fastest ever 1 18 of a second something something ridiculous like that and uh so I think we were either the second or the third fastest of all time yeah there were rumors at the end of the day and I don't know whether it was Chip just winding us up being like the last car of the day was slightly faster yeah they they yeah they said something like the last car of the day actually broke the world record so if that is true we're the third fastest of all time if not we are the second fastest of all time to go down that track and we rather the second of the first fastest of this year's event which is just just the coolest thing ever like we to be fair have also like we couldn't have picked a design that was Better Built For Speed I mean it's so people were saying this is this is aerodynamic and I was thinking it is but I don't think it's going to make that much of a difference in this yeah scenario and whether it did or not or whether it was just the fact that you didn't break much yeah I think that was it it was quite heavy it was heavy as well you had one of the heavy ones so at the start you can tell this was one of the things we were saying we should have got two people cuz we only got Jake to shove us at the start yeah and when when you start off just going down the ramp it took us a while to pick up speed if we had sort of been shoved and started at a really good pace and kept it at that pace I genely think we could have built the record but I'm I want to do it again same that's why I wanted to keep that cuz we could have just modified that and send it down we know that's a winning formula yeah make it into a submarine or something yeah exactly that thing works but Red Bull like they they we had such a great time with them they did so much for us and we were so grateful and we were speaking see nothing guaranteed and stuff um but they were saying there's a potential for us to come back and maybe do the one that you know you launch off a ramp and you're like 10 m up whatever and you've got to Glide over water as far as possible there and there are loads of other sort of like cool Red Bull events and stuff to do so um yeah I think we make this a thing if we can do just more of this stuff yeah I loved it it was genuinely one of the best things I've ever done I think yeah and there's a the the the only annoying thing is there's so much footage it's going to take a while to get the video together because Red Bull have Clips we have clips they've sent us a hard driver clipse I've got stuff on my phone B has stuff on his phone Jake has stuff on his phone so we'll gather it all together but when the video comes out I think it'll be such a good one because so good the whole experience was just the coolest thing ever and we couldn't be more grateful to Red Bull for that the perfect run at the end we just ended it so perfectly the whole experience I think yeah it couldn't have gone better afterwards I so cool yeah I couldn't get the helmet off though we got to the very end I could not figure out how to unclip the helmet so I did the interview with a helmet on yeah they could not hear thing as well you hear me go oh the atmosphere was electric and I know he said the electric thing and then we um yeah we Kenny from South Park hanging out with us we to I finally I got someone to take my helmet off we drove the soap box down to the graveyard thing but they said they weren't going to break it we put it to one side it might be broken and then we had to run up the hill because we had to get on the live stream to do an interview straight afterwards yeah and oh my God you realize how far we came down Running Up That thing that it was 400 to 500 M back up a relatively Steep Hill on a very hot day we were exhausted from the day before and uh being out the night before and having the race and all that kind of stuff and in boiler suits and it was a hot day boiling I got so sweaty at the top we got to the top and we were like that was just a thoroughly unenjoyable experience but it was cool cuz there I heard I don't I think I told you at the time I heard a kid as we ran past he was like oh my God racers felt like an F1 driver in that moment yeah that really went straight to my head yeah I bet we felt a lot cooler than we probably looked just running around in boiler suits and I'm my Red Bull cap on we had shades on surprised he hasn't got that red bull cap on today by the way that thing you're going to have to peel that off his dead body I've been wearing it so much lady just cuz I I love it it's good for green screen stuff that is the one thing I I might start wearing cuts out the wispy hair yeah it cuts out the wispy hair which kind of ruin the illusion I've got that real issue whereas when you wear a cap it's like a smooth round thing and the green screen just looks much better I see my editors have all been like wear a cap as often as possible oh so they even so they tell you what to do huh you're not Char they do interesting well I keep my editors locked away and then I give them footage and they're like please I want to see my family please share an editor now no King yeah we do shout out king great honestly fantastic worker his work ethic he sent me a video and like couple hours later he was like actually here's a V2 I watched it back and I I could see some improvements I was like kind of mentality and he's not been editing for long either yeah so he's I think all selft talk cow's amazing as well they're both just great honestly yeah people listening a fascinated here about how much we love our tives yeah let's get back to the Red Bull so box race so then we did our interview at the very top which is when cuz we went down first so we were Then followed by all the other creators who did the race um we didn't really get to see them at the time cuz we were running up the the bloody Hill but um we got to the top they all slowly joined us did their interview and then it got revealed the scores so there were different categories we were like ranked on or scored on the first being performance and I I'm pretty sure the style of the cart comes into that as well yeah and so we what did we get like what was it 20 22 it was really bad 40 terrible score we got like a seven a six a three and a five something like that whoever gave us a three what's wrong with you huh they were grumpy though cuz I think chip and frezy got something like 39 and the guy that person gave them a nine apparently they were really mean scoring the whole time that's crazy but chip and fzy knew about the performance thing which we I know how they knew about that we had no idea chip and freezy raced as a box of 20 chicken McNuggets yeah and they brought like homemade barbecue sauce and just on each other yeah pry just poured it all over them it was good like as performances go that's like the best thing you can do yeah so they got a really great score like almost perfect just one guy dropped a mark on it um 39 out 40 but I feel like I feel like giving us a three was really harsh I know our performance wasn't great but the music was very fitting yeah and maybe we should have pretended we were on the moon with our jumping or something like walking like that he just had such a cool carard we had so little time to think about it yeah I feel like it was harsh though look at our car that was really cool yeah maybe we were also ranked harshly because we were the first creators to go down maybe maybe we would have got a better score if we were towards the end I don't know yeah maybe but um yeah we did really bad on that and then you get obviously score for your speed in finishing the race yeah which we smashed Everyone by like four four seconds or something or seven or eight yeah like seven or eight seconds Quicks first to second and the second fastest and I think Becky and pieace got a dnf finish either they hit a minute or they stopped completely yeah cuz they went over one of the jumps and then front end broke so the wheel wasn't really like or the front was touching the floor dragging across the floor so they just I felt bad for them they just ped all across but at least they got down in one piece that's the they were just in a pint glass yeah it was really cool and they had a they had a cool performance Becky poured pint on um pie which was funny um con and Jack had a cool performance they just had some Swagger about it like yeah it was cool oh yeah we got picked on the performance but they did struggle getting into the vehicle did they yeah CU it's really hard and narrow to get in um they got they everyone got all the way to the end by the way Colin Jack fell over at the end there thing just went on its side they they chose thinner Wheels I didn't think they were going to make it that far yeah they also had a really high center of gravity cuz their car was thin and quite tall yeah like if you looked at their car it looked like it wanted to fall over it was a bit like chitty chitty bang bang but like elongated yeah so they did really well to and they were drifting it as well it was drifting so they did really well to get to the bottom um but yeah we were like seven seconds quicker than seven or eight seconds quicker than the second fastest which was it chip and freezy or was it Con I think it might have been no chip and frezy was Heavy wasn't it to be fair so that would move um and then there was People's Choice which we said we won 49% and was those were those those three so I think the reason so we ended up coming third we came third out of the four I just think it wasn't like cuz we won two out of three categories you'd think we'd win but I think they gave they were sort of like weighted yeah so because we were so low on the performance us being ahead on the other two bits didn't pull us up enough I think it's really harsh I think it doesn't matter at all by the way I don't I don't care but I do think it's harsh that performance is weighted so heavily in comparison to like speed has got to be the most important thing yeah like it's a race I know that's that's the way we were looking at it that's because it's a race come on we were focus on the race as aspect obviously soap boxes isn't Formula 1 is supposed to be like a bit of fun cretive stuff which you do get um but yeah hard winning two out of three categories and winning the race comfortably well it was more like at in the moment when they were revealing who won out of us four I was thinking in my head oh we've definitely won yeah after winning we got like 50% of the votes for People's Choice so it was a landslide Victory they said and a landslide Victory on the speed so I was thinking we have smashed those two things so surely we've gained loads of points for that yeah and we came third I was like I'm actually quite shocked by that I in my head I was thinking oh my God we've won yeah but um no it was so means anything like there's I don't there's nothing for it yeah I was just surprised but genuinely so it was so good yeah it was it was definitely definitely one of the best things I've ever done I was so glad that we did it I can't wait for the proper video to come out and have it all like a documentary s of documented archive just being like Oh I can look back at that video that was a banger yeah oh it was it was really good um then we stuck around and watched some public racing um and yeah there was it was it was nice there was a nice like area where you could get food and stuff and the worms showed up oh yeah lots of the patreon supporters a couple of N and non patreon people showed up lots of podcast people I'm guessing everyone there was podcast listeners because I didn't really put it on any platform no I think it it was all podcast we spoken about on the on on the podcast and in the patreon group chat quite a lot yeah and that was pretty much it so thank you well regardless if it's yeah thank you guys for coming along cuz it was so nice speaking to everyone great really great to have your support um yeah and yeah you guys were there for most of the day just like stood by our um what do you call it Soap Box stood by our Soap Box we were coming over when we could to say hi and stuff yeah everyone got photos we oh my goodness quite a lot of people wanted us to draw tattoos for them oh dear and we are not artistic no we're close yeah I'm a letter away but I not draw sa in my life and I was like the only thing I could think of was the rocket emoji yeah that was pretty good to be fair I was trying to draw them but getting the three little things at the bottom and the fire I was like I was like show this to your artist and they'll get what I'm trying to draw yeah they'll understand I mean I just ended up drawing flowers CU it's the easiest thing to draw it's got nothing to do with me a lot of art what just happened you just got bored of your own conversation I just yawned I was hoping you take it off me really quickly cuz I yawned no someone asked for a cameo once where they were like can you draw something for us to do a tattoo and I did a a ringed planet oh nice and oh my goodness trying to get cuz obviously if you put the circle there first the ring that goes in front like cuts through lines and it looks crap so you've kind of got to start with the ring but obviously just as the ring curves back around you have to stop and then you have to imagine where the sphere is going to be and oh my goodness I burnt through about half this notebook trying to get one that just looks semi-reasonable so whoever invented Saturn fair enough yeah exactly that must have been difficult and Uranus yep that's also ringed yeah um many too many rings yeah I've got a ring do you oh yeah and that weekend batch proposed to me so I said yes no I'm talking about my ass what anyway um it was it was a different kind of proposition to the one you were thinking of yours is way cuter than mine and I said no oh hell no I just got that that's disgusting cuz I was like on Saturday night we were just chilling we were like go we're exhausted yeah and I was like do you want to just stay around and Bach was like yeah so we played fornite and watch scary movies yeah he took me to get sushi again yeah we went to sticks and Sushi again but I was like I kind of want to make more videos but we were just so tired yeah I it was too late you just what you made me watch horror stuff we we watched a bunch of scary videos on YouTube like real ghost sightings and short horror movies and I was like I've wanted to do videos like that with you ages I was like then was the perfect time but our energy was just shock yeah we'll do it we'll definitely do it another time though CU people just love that love that horror game yeah is entertaining to watch other people get scared people don't want to watch you have fun they want to watch you cringe and be scared people enjoyed us having fun of Minecraft true but you were scared of I died like five six times I'm not very good clearly everyone's making fun of me did I die once I didn't I don't think no but your spirit died at one point hell no my spirit my spirit was always my spirit were through the roof um when I was getting attacked by Leona Lewis and I was hiding in the house turns out Leona Lewis can't go in water so I should have just gone in water I saw that comment yeah thanks for that thanks for the comment I'm actually going to use that logic and I I already want to film episode three right now do you yeah it was so fun we'll do it this week actually it's so fun like I enjoy playing it we're just loading up M fil although he needs a he needs a setup can we can we tell this boy to put some money towards a proper setup he plays on his PlayStation so we have to play Bedrock Edition so I can't use my nice shaders that make the waters and everything look clean and all the like graphics and stuff you know the like it's T's water we're keeping it the graphics upgrades are insane look just just a bit enjoy a humble bit of like Minecraft where it's nostalgic not everything has to be polished yeah okay fine um but no it was it was really good fun and it is it is I do love that we can just do that kind of stuff and just play a game and it would be fun yeah um we can just like high five when we want yeah anyway um back to let's go back in time to um the end of the race he wet himself no he didn't he didn't no he didn't but um I just want to make sure that we covered everything no because we didn't speak about um the stunt the stunts oh yeah you should tell them about the stunt they they just flung on you they didn't tell you until yeah they didn't tell me about this before and they made me sign my rights away yeah and it it was they had already Ked off the live stream so you just had to do it yeah um we basically batch got nice one he got pulled aside and they were like oh is the driver we're testing your reflexes yeah and what did they do they so she dropped a ruler and you just had to grab the ruler um as soon as she dropped it and just see how many centimeters you let drop to judge your reaction time I didn't do I think I came second actually nice but on the practice I failed uh so I was like oh that was nice and peaceful and fun I wonder what mine's going to be and they get me and they they I put this heart monitor on and I was like what they put this heart monitor on me put me in the middle of this cage and this dude called like Douglas or something comes up in this massive dirt bike and just goes like I'll lie down in the middle and I was like I know exactly where this is going got R to me and Jack just start planking and he's sort of in this giant he giant of a man I swear he's like 6'4 in this massive dirt bike and he's sort of there like on one wheel bouncing the like wheel like an inch from my head and I'm like if he just if anything misjudges he crushes my skull yeah like we we we lose one of the Bright Young talents of this generation and you as well wait what do you mean well they'd get Jack and you oh yeah yeah good old Jack and then then he was doing like wheelies around your head like just driving past full speed past his head yeah it was giving me the E actually see lie down there insane and I was just like well I'm playing it cool cuz that's like the name of the game it'd be cringe if I got up and I mean they they even said that if you get up you're at risk of just getting your head whacked cuz he's like an inch within your head so if you move it until you die yeah um and for like a minute he just did this and bounced around and yeah you were down there for a hot minute yeah we were there for ages just getting driven around I thought oh this is just getting this is just cruel now yeah I mean the poor boy is just lying there with a boner by the way uh because he gets that happens when he gets scared just why you think I keep getting you for horror games oh no i h on a Bo so he's just doing circling circling circling around Arthur on the floor it just I just felt a bit sorry for him in the end yeah uh so that was terrifying but good F night you know I'm up for anything I did realized the other day I'm just one of his friends who's just up for thing yeah you are actually someone could be like hey we're going to sit inside and watch movies tonight I be like fine or they can be like come on man we're robbing a bank I'm like cool they'll be like come on going glamping for the weekend do you is that real though if I said or okay let's go and watch the Euros tonight fine let's do it England England this is the last night of the group stage and all of a sudden the mood is really dead because we're just through now we've not played well either it's been pathetic there I said it and Harry Kane when you finally come on this podcast I've got some strong words to have with you mine mine Reserve is Gareth Southgate and not bringing BR and not playing kobby Mayu okay sorry Harry Kane actually way he's playing phenomenally to be not as if we're missing him but I'm mad at you Southgate yeah Italy um not playing too bad oh my goodness you're Italian did you watch the game last night and they scored the 90th plus eight to go through 98th minute it was the draw against Croatia oh that was heartbreaking poor the thing is they probably would have gone through anyway as one of the people third but um it's nice to confirm it you know yeah those moments of elation just so hard I think Italy just like a decent Striker anyway we won't bore you with football because a lot of people probably don't care about football yeah um but yeah I mean I'm getting into F1 now yes you are you watch drive to survive right yeah I've been watching drive to surv I need to get on that I really want to watch that um and hence why the Red Bull so box race I was really in I was really in my element Because You Loved does it make you love Red Bull as well the driver to survive does it follow a particular team it follows the mall and to be honest I haven't really got like a team I really um it's not like I really want to see this team win it's more people that you care about it's good to see Red Bull doing well but um I like Lando do you yeah you're Lando Norris enjoyer I'm a Lando enjoyer I like them all to be fair from what I've seen I like I get I like Char all oh cuz he kind he kind of looks like Charles mclair uh yeah I get uh Lando Norris a lot people always say like L nor I'm not sure about that boy and uh obviously like V stappen red the Red Bull goat what batch V stappen high five what does that even mean batch for steppen me batch for steppen batch for steppen me instead of Max for Sten batch for Sten it's one of the only times that batch really goes into anything batch for Sten what do people nickname you at school get tuna boy cuz I've brought in tuna fish boy uh right I was going duckling I was going for more names like name related like okay because I was oh name related I was I was called nothing I was just called Arthur I don't know why I said it like that I was called Nothing me yeah had no friends at school no I didn't really people would say ice as a joke ice yeah I just I didn't like not having a cool nickname name my sister one of my sisters calls me Izzy that's really cringe and feminine yo she watches these which is fine yo she watches these apologize down the lens right now I apologize nothing cuz it is it was true it was my truly held opinion and you should never apologize for being yourself sometimes she calls me Elizabeth as well what and I don't really know where she got that from she started that was a good what what yeah she watches it where she works as she was working she'll have it on Gizzy by the way I didn't get cancelled for what Sunday came out where I waterboarded Chris I haven't watched that and I was seriously worried I was genuinely like I thought you know just some people on the internet can be real yeah cuz they might be like oh you're making fun of water boarding people actually die from water boarding that's not what I exactly what I meant oh because okay you can't waterboard Chris because he doesn't like water and some people have been drowned before no okay of course because because you shouldn't do water boarding because it's like saying this is something you should it's really on impressionable fans and they'll be like okay I'm going to water board my mom tonight right maybe maybe that was like oh you shouldn't do that on to an impression I'm going to cancel you right now in that case um but no I I I just thought people would be like oh that was so mean of him they're not friends like just you know when you don't really know I mean obviously anyone who's seen Chris and videos knows how much abuse he puts me through I mean that guy abuse shs down on my neck like there's no tomorrow he's just I I'll just be chilling mid shootting he'll just go on my traps I mean granted they're juicy like they're nice muscular defined um have you ever thought you might just be a vampire I don't know hiding in plain sight you know you've got two Pierce marks right there you getting sucked by you've got really garlicky breath so I don't think I could be a a vampire cuz otherwise let's not start rumors like that otherwise I'd run there's not start rumors like that yeah my breath smells like daisies rainbows fairy tales I'm always chewing gum you are always chewing gum you're a real gum chewer yeah it Bo it boosts your confidence it's like putting a pair of sunglasses on I'm glad you don't do it on the podcast that would be the most annoying thing to listen to I have done it before but I just tuck it into my teeth like snz you don't mean that it's gum you don't mean that it's gum it's just weird you don't mean that it's gum gum started freaking out you know we were speaking about eggs the other day when you you're Midway through eating heads and you're like wait up yeah that's a period something ain't right that's a menstrual cycle raor and you're like yeah well that weirdly makes me like it more it's more than I knew you were a feminist me too come on yeah um we do like to bring awareness to the fact that women exist and have Cycles cuz I I I mentioned menstrual cycles all the time and I in one of my YouTube videos I was like I've got to stop saying menstrual cycles drop a comment if you think I should stop saying menual cycle everyone's like no and someone's like no it actually feels kind of feminist in a weird way cuz you're bringing light to the fact of cuz not everyone knows that women have I think everyone knows women have periods I found out 3 days ago watching your video you thought they had penis what I just thought they merely existed they merely exist in a in a realm Between Heaven and Hell where somewhere I love doesn't exist what the hell is this guy talking about women only exist in heaven women are heaven on Earth in my opinion how does that song Go heaven heaven for what it's worth women are heaven on Earth women are heaven on Earth brother in Christ you don't know what you're talking about right now I feel like we're getting on to Serious brain rot have you got anything else this is a rare batch prepared actually been praying preparing a lot um all of the episodes lately we've actually yeah hence why the quality's increased um no you just you do stuff in a different way I like like reading and talking reading well next episode's prepared by by Arthur and we'll be filming this directly after this one yeah we're doing complet transparency cuz batch is way on holiday and I'm going to be honest because I'm not I've not brought a spare pair of clothes anyway yeah me neither I don't want to hear no comments like why is he wearing that shirt again well they should be comenting CU alth this on an episode before quite frankly Arthur is either can I just say by the way I predicted what you were going to be wearing on the Red Bull meal I said Arthur will turn up in Black corduroy shorts um and a cream beige top shirt either worn as an overshirt with a white t-shirt underneath or just a shirt that's exactly what you were that's true I mean I have two other pairs of shorts I had a black like pair that were like had textured but the waistband thing snapped hard to find a good pair of shorts and then I had a nice like cream beige pair yeah um but they were just like I don't know linen and just ended up being a bit too and take it from a guy a sleepover with him he doesn't take them off he showers in them he goes me to take them off he was like take them off take them off take them off and I was like leave me alone yeah I was like please wash please wash you were just misreading me I wasn't saying take them off I was like please wash please wash anyway I I got the um I went into the patreon chat o uh little plug if you want to join the patreon go ahead there's a chat you get early access to episodes they get uploaded all the time and Bullies me in it yeah I do speak in there a fair amount um and I said to them we're filming two pods today can you guys reply to this message with any questions you have about the Red Bull Soapbox race we're going to be doing a whole episode on it uh because I thought there might be you know they might want to know more information on how it was built or how we were feeling and stuff and we could just give us some insight to that we've just explained the day how cool it was blah blah blah but they want to know the BTS let's see how insightful their questions can be okay did you hurt your nose that's [ __ ] rude no I didn't that obviously pointed at you no I didn't to be fair I did we had said in an episode prior that there was no foam and we are going to smash our faces in they put foam in we had good helmets on but we didn't actually crash so yeah we didn't crash so although his coxic bone is in pain yeah my coxics I'm absolutely fine because I'm not weak that's your tailbone um may ask for us highly evolved Apes that was from Brooke by the way I'll say names shout outs May says how SL why did you decide to build a rocket why I guess cuz it's very on brand for us have a look at our mugs yep yeah I mean we're just we're were're a Spacey themed podcast for no apparent reason we genely I'm sure we said in the earlier episodes we had no plans to be themed and bats just randomly one day went let's just make it space themed I just think it's cool yeah me I just think we both think it's cool we do we just need a cool set I think most of the things we do is because we think oh that's cool like the Soap Box we thought oh it'd be cool if we did a a ship or a ufi yeah just cuz it just cuz it's funny someone actually messaged in for the next one I've got like the submissions from the normal submissions page which everyone can enter just go to our any of our socials at Bach and arur and in the link there's like a a link tree and one of them is the submissions form and they were like what is your target audience because I can't really figure it out and I'm studying media at the moment target audience is such a big thing and I was like we don't have one we just come on talk about whatever we find interesting yeah and just hope that some people agree yeah and the people who do listen are actually very um diverse yeah and intelligent and cool and good looking and all this yeah um so yeah no um yeah and it's weird because we're not sitting there going oh let's talk about this to appeal to this audience which I think is I mean somehow it works so thank you guys for tuning into thanks cuz I think if you analyzed it in like a media class and it was like oh one minute you're doing brain rot meme references and the next you're talking about s men and then the next we're talking about Greek philosophy and the next one like Roman Parables and then religion they'd be like well someone's going to listen to the one episode like it and then not like the rest yeah but for some reason people just like listening to it all really I think we just decided that we're just going to do what we want like yeah whatever we enjoy yeah like whatever we enjoy and whatever we F feel like talking about we're just going to do it because if you want to enjoy something you've like if you want this if we want this podcast to continue we've got to enjoy it and if we're looking at it tactically like Oh Let's do an episode on this so we can boost our audience in this demographic it will start to feel like a like a real job well like you know I've heard from other people that do podcasts that their producers will be like today you're having this guest on and they're like well I've never watched the show they're on or Never follow them don't care about the story but I've got to do it's nice that we kind of have a just able to just go oh whatever and I do think the stuff we talk about is interesting broadly like if you're someone who like whenever we meet or speak to anyone who watches the podcast they're always like oh I love like these types of interesting discussions I feel like if you have a generally curious mind yeah like if if people who are listening to this and enjoy it are going to be similar to us in that respect and they you know even if they don't have a an interest in any of the particular like they might be like oh I love hearing about religion I'm a curious person but they don't care about Greek philosophy yeah or anything when we speak about the ship of thesis they're still like oh it's an interesting thought like it's an interesting thought so if you're one of those types of people like us then all that kind of stuff is interesting I guess thus our our demographic is people who just have similar interests to us yeah or like have a similar outlook on life or yeah that's the thing it's not even like it's just it's the broad value of curiosity I think who just like they like to laugh they like a bit of Comedy cuz we even get people who disagree with us and they're like oh I'm religious I completely disagree with this all but it was so interesting to listen to and so they're not listening because we're speaking about things that they find um they agree with or they enjoy you know but they're going like oh like I like the way these topics are approached or the way this is discussed and yeah so yeah hopefully we'll try and keep that up um hey no way we're going to brain Rock 24/7 after here or no anyway um Connie asked what was your top speed we don't actually know but what did you think it was 30 well when we passed we passed the speed gate at what will be one of the fastest points and that was 30 okay mil K yeah km pH um Leia says do you think you were going to make it to the Finish Line did you think you were going to make it to the Finish Line I genuinely um did not think we were going to make it past the chicane to be honest yeah cuz I didn't realize the course was as wide as it was however the as narrow as it was you mean actually yeah yes and no the thing is it's like driving a car when you're in a car it looks like you're you're bigger than the road but actually you can fit in much smaller of a gap than you expect yourself to be able to and so when you're actually in the soap box when we were doing the chicane in my head I thought we're going to catch one of the hay bals and go flying but actually although it was actually pretty close watching it back it felt like I had enough room to get round and stuff well two hay bals we did fully slic through well yeah if the wings were like flat fronted we would have we could have just spun out flown but because the wings were just like yeah we the first one and then the second one we through that yeah um but in no I didn't think we were going to make it down in one piece to be honest I thought either we'd get to the end and there' be damage or we'd fall over at the end or we just wouldn't make it to the end cuz it's not a like it more often than not you don't make it to the end yeah so I thought statistically I didn't I didn't think we were going to make it to the end so I was surprised were you or not it's so funny because at the start you're like I really don't know but be when you're going down it's so fast and you've got to think a lot like yeah I was just constantly thinking like just monitoring whether we were going too fast or not to be like bring the speed down ever so slightly and it's everything's happening so fast you don't have time to think oh are we going to make it like any hypotheticals it's just uh pull the break break on break off break off oh my goodness are we going to make this corner are we going to too fast at how are we doing like all this kind of stuff's rushing through your head I didn't even think about it I was no so yeah I had no thoughts in my head either I think we were just on reflex at that point yeah because every yeah like Arthur said everything's coming at you so quick like before the chane I thought I had enough time to put my hand up and wave and I was like [ __ ] no I don't yeah so that's when I came back onto the wheel and did that so we really don't have much time in that thing um then Phoenix asks what was the hardest and easiest part of the creative process oh hard po was coming up with an idea for what we wanted to do as the car because we took ages like they were asking us for the design for so long and we were like we really don't know it is hard when you can do literally anything it's like the classic situation where you've got too much Choice yeah so you can't make a decision and neither necessarily creative creative types yeah so we and also it's it's difficult as well when there's two people because obviously if one person wants to do something we we agreed yeah we we didn't have any friction on what we wanted to do we because we both didn't really have an idea but you've got to make sure that what one person comes up with the other person's happy to do um but I think from the go we just suggested either a space shuttle or UFO we were both happy with those two ideas and then we had a look at some pictures and we thought okay let's go for a space sh that was it yeah so I think that um it was hard in the beginning but to to be honest the decision process was pretty easy for us in the end I do think the hardest part although that was hard I think what was harder for us was probably um building the chassis don't you think it was harder than the woodwork yeah that's probably true cuz we didn't have any engineer assistance with the underly car yeah the actual chassis itself we just had bits like we didn't have instructions for half of it we were in in a big Warehouse with just a bunch of nuts bolts rods	3 days ago watching your video you thought they had penis what I just thought they merely existed they merely exist in a in a realm Between Heaven and Hell where somewhere I love doesn't exist what the hell is this guy talking about women only exist in heaven women are heaven on Earth in my 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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0g_xJvKEb8	4,108	-0g_xJvKEb8	2024-06-27 00:00:00	[Music] what's up everybody welcome back to episode 14 of the batch and Arthur podcast yay go thanks for joining everyone we have something to reveal yes we do I know you guys don't like it when Arthur has his mug on the couch because he tends to drop things don't you never dropped anything actually okay you dropped that th done remember that well you might have noticed I also have my mug on the sofa mhm wondering why who wants to know why should we tell them something to do with one like equals one Lara maybe something to do with that exactly you guys ready see what you reveal go way for audio listeners we have white mugs with our little cartoon characters on them that's right little will I didn't want to Cheers you and I've got my little handsome space guy come on yeah Lara surprised us with these this is a gift um mine shatterproof as well apparently oh it's not sh yeah he's got a plastic mug because we know what he's like I've sippy C the audio listeners actually little rubber cppy cup with two handles well actually when Arthur drinks from a mug show them how you do it I'll I'll commentate for this he uses two hands so he grabs on the like handle and then he grabs the other hand I drink everything with two hands especially tea and Pints yeah I don't really know what is there a reason for that or not safety I guess twice as balanced is that really if one arm stops working the other one's there as a fail safe well there you go that's why he does it guys so it makes sense all after all yeah um speaking of batch and Arthur this podcast design right here yeah this has been plasted on something recently what our rocket ship oh yeah guys we just got back from the Red Bull Soap Box race and we're alive 2024 we genuinely were not sure we were going to survive no I was but we did really scared we we turned up we got to see other people's cards um and there was basically two things going on so there's like a public race and then the Creator race was like a separate thing which is streamed on YouTube If you go on Red Bull's um YouTube channel and you go on under the live tab you can actually watch the full thing yeah we were like a half time race yeah it was Bas half time show yeah there was a few people who weren't happy about the Creator's uh racing cuz they thought we were mixed in with the public but it's like a whole separate thing like we can't win any awards over the public or anything like that yeah um but but we won the hearts of the public come on yeah we did win the hearts of the public there was a a couple of things that you were like rated on as creators and one of them was People's Choice and we got a landslide victory of 44% yeah it actually ended up on 49% 50% out of four teams we got 49 everyone rounds 49 thank you to everyone who voted for us we one of four teams but we're up against chip and freezy who have a big loving audience Becky and pieace who audience and then con from the siden huge loving audience and the guy who's our cameraman on the train video the siden that's right Jack was there as well went to with con they had cool out but uh we we got to Ali p uh that's my first time there you've been there before actually I think we should start the day before okay let's let's reel that [ __ ] back because we had another sleepover kind of yeah we did have another let's just say oh no we didn't really a hotel yeah we did not have a sleepover but what did we do where did we first meet we we met at the we met at the hotel at the hotel dropped our bags off Adam was there he's the Red Bull guy that was been looking after us and he took all the creators out to dinner yeah we to find the tell first yeah chopped a pint um both hands come on yeah then we got in a taxi we went to dinner we had a create a dinner um what did you eat pizza yeah I had a really really hot hot pizza but the thing I was enjoying the most was the football we had a massive screen in front of us oh yeah cuz France were playing Netherlands NE scen I felt kind of harsh cuz the the table was positioned in a way that only half of us could see the football and the other half were just watching us watching football yeah but no he they were watching a react video basically they got to see us live reacting In the Flesh um but the meal was really good the food was really good uh Jake was struggling Jake the guy works with um Arthur they both got the same Pizza he was struggling with the heat yeah he was [ __ ] [ __ ] struggling with the Pint as well got two pints steep was steaming no cuz he was so in denial Jake yeah Jake had a couple pints and he was gone we were like you are drunk he like I am not drunk and he was getting angry mad I'm not even drunk he's I haven't even done anything later he's doing karaoke so that's belting out karaoke with his phone to the to the mic with with voice note on my God it's so that was you singing those Tunes to someone yeah we yeah CU you've been to a place before should we say the name of the place or not I actually I don't remember it anyway okay we went to this place anyway Arthur's been there before it's um like a karaoke bar with uh like an arcade and bowling and there's a dance floor and like a bar and stuff like that yeah very good fun we all went there did some karaoke went there for Arthur Hill's birthday that's how I found out about it what a place it is a cool place actually um yeah did a bit of karaoke we were in there for a couple hours doing karaoke in the end yeah um belting at tunes by the way batch can sing No Arthur can sing yeah but I think people would assume that from but that goes without saying no but but Frank Sinatra came on and oh my goodness batch was just cooking that thing anyone can sing Frank arra welcome back Frank Sinatra he died and this is him reborn wasn't wasn't he heavily involved with the mafia Frank Sinatra so are you you're a quter Italian that's true but I can't admit that no not legally anyway oops they're going to come and get me try and come and get me watch me beat beat you all up actually I shouldn't say what if they do don't come and get me please I was just kidding I've got nothing to do with him he lives on 32 Italian back street oh my god that actually is my house number H what don't say that it's not that's my apartment number as well no we you're not finding out where we live um I'm going to move in with Arthur anyway we moved in together on Minecraft yeah sort of anyway back to karaoke we had fun at karaoke then we went home we didn't get back till 3:00 a.m. silly move because we had to be up early yeah we had it well not that early we had 10: a.m. taxi picks up yeah but we met at breakfast at 9:30 it was the most romantic breakfast of my life yeah um and then stayed at the Hilton Red Bull of class they put us in there they also like what a lovely experience not only did they take us to dinner they they paid for karaoke and everything like that they covered everything shout out to Red Ball I'm going to crack One open right now and they're actually delicious all these colored red balls my actual favorite is the summer edition you guys should actually try this this is not sponsored but I'm just saying this is not even the first thing I I did I went to salburg in Austria and did some Red Bull salburg video shooting with Chris MD um we did like penal sh outs in games with mads bistrup for their YouTube channel and then did a video in it was the the final one of christed uh every time you beat a Defender the defender gets upgraded that's right yeah and we start off with like Harry R Shaw as the worst Defender when all the way up to Champions League mads bistr who fantastic player I mean yeah you realize how like when you watch t uh football on TV you think oh I could do that yeah but then if you see a actual Pro in real life yeah like that makes sense why you went pro now actually we need to do more charity so that was fun that was fun there are a lot going on it's just timings cuz there's so many things going on during summer and that's usually when charity matches go down yeah but you got to work in the schedules either you're away or I'm away or there's a brand trip or something has to be submitted in time was crazy yeah but um no I'm sure we're going to do a lot more stuff with Red Bull as well so that's exciting um but anyway we then got the taxi to Alex Alexandra Palace Ali pal come on and um I've only just realized that's why it's Ali P really yeah I just thought that Ali P was the hill and Alexandre Palace was no way Ali now I've just heard it okay that's Ali P right anyway U you almost did a off the TV intro that right right so then we uh we got into the race so no we got into the Zone where the race was going on yeah and we got to have a little scout out all the public submitted soap boxes some really cool stuff in there yeah although there was one weird one because we rock up and there are like four girls gathered around water is essentially a double bed one girl just tucked up and you back like oh this is cool and she was like yeah it's really cozy get in we were like no I I ain't doing all that I'm sure though that you know that wasn't actually her like lying in it yeah I know you could tell something was weird under the covers but I was not getting involved what what what the hell um oh you can't see my soundboard I've got to pull this back so I can soundboard here yeah he hasn't got a soundboard yet thank goodness although I should no they all see the comments by the way Lara and Arthur see the comments and Lara even said into the group chat she was like I think we need to get bat of soundboard because of all the comments she sent me a message being like listen we've got one purchase a year we can authorize either we get cool mugs or batch gets a soundboard and I was like mugs mugs oh hell no I just think it's so much funnier when you do it yourself and go to I do think so but this is going to get worn down and eventually there's going to be a Hole uh oh audio listeners don't know what I'm doing I I just I pretend there's a soundboard and I just push the sof and make my I do it as well I do it in real life I'll be speaking to people when I'm BR but it doesn't make his much sense in real life just in a conversation he's just air poking stuff as he goes brh you know what's so funny as well I showed batch this someone one of you guys one of our listeners because cuz I you do it quite a lot but I do it all the time at you do the what yeah what that thing someone did a Tik Tok called whatting people in public so she goes into this petrol station goes to pay she goes like how much is that and he goes like Oh 1350 and she just goes what loud so loud just yells it in this man's face and everyone was like bad bad you guys have to recreate this it was so funny yeah and then Arthur was like we've got to do this we've got I don't know if I have the like what is it um social confidence to do that I'd be able to do it not yell it I thought it was a bit rude though the loud yelling not in a bad I'm not criticizing you I just able to do that like that myself I'd be like what I think sorry you got no no soup of the day what what when you have a camera on you though that you get a new found confidence in public like I found no no no in general I don't know if you agree with this in like a sidan video I Feel Like rules don't apply like social rules then don't apply cuz you've got a camer on you and you can do what you want whatever you want yeah I've only recently started being able to finally find it within myself to Vlog like when we were at wagas I was like this is actually fine yeah whereas before IID look at people vlogging in public and I go I admire you a lot cuz I can never do that it helps having people around you yeah although I feel like we do it with our phones it's a bit easier that's true whereas if people with their cameras out like facing their way I'm like oh my goodness I'd be so embarrassed yeah I think I would be as well especially if you got like a big rig on the end of that thing people are just admiring you your rig yeah both of them come on anyway um what speaking of the soap boxes that we saw um there was this one there was like these four guys like lying down chilling and they had this like Dome oh yeah which was kind of like a I guess like a spa you know the space shuttles that come down to earth it kind of looked a bit like that didn't yeah um like a landing module yeah like a landing module and they what did what did they make it off fiberglass or something yeah oh my God you could smell it from where we were still and they were like stick your head in that so we stuck it you stuck your head in first took a whiff and I did it afterwards oh my God dizzying genuinely dizzying I'm high I'm still high from that moment if anyone's ever been in like a a surfboard shop where they like make the surfboards yeah it smells like that it just smell exactly like that and they bizarre I just burped on I thought that was what that was that was disgusting hopefully that didn't get picked up apologize sorry guys sorry if you heard that cut that out anyway um it's not getting cut uh it they had to spend the whole run down in that thing so I think those guys are a little bit waved yeah I'm glad we I'm glad we were just a team of two and had two seats because I kind of felt bad some people that pushed the Soap Box thing down yeah like running after it for like 50 meters and it was a hot day that's true like um most people was like a team of four and two would push two would be in it I think that's standard isn't it to have two people in the so box and then a team that will push and Chase it down probably chase down chip and freezies yeah funny it was funny as well the way he was running because I guess it was like a it was like Looney Tunes the way he had his arms up like that chasing them down to be fair there are people I felt more bad for he talking about some of the injuries of the day oh my God and this is the thing like good gosh man we were already nervous then we were then we got to S see our um vehicle which they had made some mods to by the way so put me at ease a little bit they put foam in the place where my head would smash oh yeah so I felt about that yeah um they didn't they were going to cut out the wheel arches so we could turn more but they didn't I'm glad they I actually think that worked in our favor in it did um and they were actually slagging it off when it went up on towards stage they were speaking about it on Mike and they were like they can't turn properly they can't see over it and I was thinking oh no they're slagging off our thing they were talking about our buckets on the back and stuff I don't know if they were slagging off the buckets or just speaking about I just heard bucket like they're talking about ours oh my god um but it actually worked in favor and then there was screens up showing the first runs and it took a while it like an hour or two after we got there till the first run um but did you see the Sheep one no I didn't see any of the big ones but that's a bad one there was a sheep we I was watching a sheep go down um it was just before you did your stunt I think and it got all the way to the end and then at full speed flipped over onto their necks and I think it was one of them that broke their collarbone and it looked awful and after seeing that me and pieace was stood together we were like I we genuinely don't want to go down after seeing that he was [ __ ] it I was [ __ ] it um and then not only that I think other people must have like been bruised or whatever but the other big one that we heard about is we when we got to the start line we were there waiting for like 10 minutes and it was cuz the person who went down before us got knocked out so that's crazy yeah which I didn't see I don't think we'll ever see any footage of that but I don't know what vehicle it was or anything I just heard that they got knocked out that's why we were up there for ages yeah I mean it was going down insanely fast yeah it look I mean it looks quick on camera but it doesn't look nearly as quick as it feels yeah when you're in that thing oh my goodness and you can barely see in front of you you're bouncing all over the place you're hitting these jumps there are bits where there's foam that like splashes you in the face you have a few seconds of blindness yeah it's mental it it to best describe it definitely feels faster than sitting in a car at 60 MPH I'd say faster than it feels sitting in a car going 100 yeah cuz you're so exposed to we've never gone 100 I've been on the auto bar in Germany okay fair um but yeah you're exposed so it just feels so quick but we were quick insanely Qui insanely quick I think everyone we were the first of the creators to go up everyone thought we were going to just crash yeah or just be crap and slow there was so many comments so many DMs I got afterward was like [ __ ] fair enough before we even went down though before we get cuz we we will react we'll show you us going down yeah but I think we should tell them actually maybe should we hit play and then we'll pause at certain bits to be like explainer yeah I'll tell you what it plays it goes all the way through and then they do it in slow-mo afterwards we can on the slow-mo we'll do some explanation okay here we go batch and Arthur we had the podcast sticker oh it was such a good sticker on the side which was really cool and they zoomed in out loads for the YouTube video which is great yeah was all over the stream which was ideal although you cannot see podcast there until someone shads over it yeah someone's just shattering we were stood up there for ages genuinely yeah because someone had just been knocked out looking down this hill that was just so steep it's not funny but look at that thing that's so impressive it's so well built I can't believe it and I'm I'm gutted because I actually wanted to say to the we had a little bit of help from the Red Bull Engineers yeah I wanted to say thank you to them more just be like what did you see that that was really good yeah if anyone knows anything by any chance please pass on our thanks because yeah they they helped us hopefully they watched it and saw a great deal uh but we did do a lot I mean we did spend two full days building this thing and printing it up and stuff so yeah which you'll obviously see in the Vlog I'll talk about I'll talk about something later cuz there's um this was posted to Tik Tok and there's some funny comments on there really basically yeah basically calling us desk dwellers what so this is our performance so this performance we didn't know we no was supposed to do we we were told to choose a piece of music so we chose something like Space Odyssey style but we had no idea that meant we had to perform yeah and like like she's saying like there are points for performance and we knew about 10 minutes beforehand that this 30 second period of Music we'd have to Performance so we were like let's just do something simple gum shields in the mouth bow and get in and they were harsh they gave us a three but that also also counts to the way the vehicle looks so I think three is Harsh yeah but here we go performance score 22 poor but this is when we started racking up speed the steering was really weird as well cuz it changed as we got quicker and we were just bouncing as we went down like we'd hit a ramp and oh my goodness like almost front flipped that around we Whi around the corner and our our genuine one of our wings like clipped a ha Bell and just sliced through it that one sliced through the hay Bell I was thinking as we came down I swear I would have hit that side had I not hit that side and then nailed the braking and you said you could smell burnt rubber when you were breaking on that thing cuz I was like tickling the brakes like before a jump every now and then I do one all as we approached the chicane I pulled it yeah um but they said as we were going down in the commentary like yeah oh this feels fast usually you're hitting like low 20s here and it comes up on the side and we're hitting 30 km an hour yeah we were going and we were oh my goodness I'm glad you didn't break touch the break though we didn't need it yeah yeah I mean you did a did a little bit but I mean the others obviously touched it a lot more yeah I basically kept us at a speed where I was like this is very close to the line of like where we can make this corner at the speed because at the end of the day as a race and I was like we don't want to get up at the end and just be like oh like a couple of the soite boxes made it halfway down and just like stopped completely yeah and they were like having to like like I don't know like Shake It Forward it's so awkward like we did speak and we did say we'd actually rather crash going pretty quick than come to a grinding hle because it's just not good material yeah like we did it for Content wants to see that it's for a video we know representing creators at half time yeah so many people watching we've got a space shuttle that is designed at a velocity of 17,000 500 mph yeah so we were like you know hitting to be honest when they gave us those uh cuz we asked for special helmets that covered the face yeah when they gave me that I felt invincible and I thought oh [ __ ] it and we had gum Shields that we like ped poured into boiling water molded them before and molded them so we we felt pretty safe yeah I mean but still at 30 we weren but I don't have miles hour or kilm an hour I think it was mph I actually do really yeah but whatever it is at 30 like genuinely like just whacking your head against something solid is well I mean someone did get knocked out and broke it was terrifying yeah they they then do a slow-mo okay let's watch the slow-mo and we can break down exactly because I was thinking there was a point in the chicane when we really Whi round I was thinking why did that happen it was because the back right wheel wasn't on the ground when we were coming up to the chicane so when it touched the the ground it turned us into a corner so I was like [ __ ] and I had to spin it around one way and then back around the other way oh that's why we had that major wobble yeah and you can see it it's like it's cuz one of the wheels wasn't on the ground okay let's let's watch and like in the first one we'll try and go for the audio listeners kind of describe what we're seeing yeah so the first jump yeah we it was a heavy a heavy bit of Kit as well we definitely had one of the heavier ones it and it was like so we got through here the back that wheel wasn't on the ground so like had to correct it well the chicane of just having to go really quick left and then really quick right after yeah and then this pit we hit a bunch of stairs and bch basically grinds on the right hand of them it's cuz afterwards we had to be on the right hand side so I was thinking I can't turn directly after I'm going to have to turn on the ramp like the CL the the course is split in two with like steps on the left and straight on the right and we go down the steps but like half dangling off yeah you have a choice whether to do jumps or not obviously we were going to do the jumps cuz you get docked time um no they add time on if you go round cuz it's a bit unfair yeah but we you were just like let's head it yeah and after the first jump it it looks like we really jump around I don't know about you but in it it didn't feel that bad I I think I'm the exact opposite cuz I was going flying and my bum still Hur May was our positioning or cuz I was holding on to this when yeah I had nothing to hold on to I was just sat on a blue seat I re yeah I reckon that's what it was cuz it kept me like sort of planted you fix and you're in the center so with us like when when you go off the Jump the nose sort of goes down yeah it did and then the back col kicks up into the air and then slams down and because I'm at the back you really got you know I've got a lot further to fall and I just got whacked and my butt like when I sit on the sofa like no I can feel it bruised on I was actually un unscared I was absolutely fine yeah God it was um after that first jump though I got a lot more confidence in the run I was thinking oh that was fine I can we can do all the [ __ ] jumps yeah I just got full speed no I rate it I'm so glad you just sent it cuz and you I mean you didn't have a choice sending it yeah you just you na yeah exactly you could SL down but uh I they miked us did they mic you up CU they miked me up but I said nothing the whole run yeah why would you you couldn't because the thing is I was so focused I think it's because we went so quick because there's a Red Bull posted a video on their Tik Tok page where because they miked up chip and freezy and um it's off chip speaking to freezy and he's like on the brakes off the brakes okay we're going to go around this now and I think it's CU they were using the brakes and communicating about the brakes that they had stuff to say but because we were just you told me before you weren't going to touch the brake so I thought okay he's really not there's no point saying anything and you know whether it's a Brak or not so I was just thinking I'm just going to drive I was literally only thinking like I'm only going to slow us down if I feel like at this speed we either can't hit that jump properly or can't go around the corner and I was just tickling it and it was only at the end like I was like I've got to wait until we cross the finish line before I can break and I just Ram it and because it was a friction break it's like literally a metal bar that just pulls down onto both of the rear wheels it just starts smelling like burning rubber actually nailed that was so good though cuz we literally landed after that last jump we landed and I was like [ __ ] the Finish is right there and all I could hear was I just knew he pulled that thing so hard we came around the corner and didn't touch a single thing because he broke just in time yeah and the thing was untouched like the they said they it could get sent back to one of us so I send it to my house um I got I didn't tell you this yet I got a DM from someone saying I'm just about to watch your soap box get destroyed what no it's been graveyard we took it to a graveyard but we put it to one side no they told us we could have it uh yeah oh the guy might be lying I I pray he is cuz that's so harsh but I saw it in the DM request I was like [ __ ] surely not we should M message Adam but I think a big part of the reason we couldn't speak or do much else is because we weren't so full s we did that in 36 seconds chip and freezy were the second fastest in our group I think and they were 44 seconds yeah so we were we were literally seven or eight seconds I mean I don't exactly know what their milliseconds were but we were seven or eight seconds faster than them and I mean the difference like you watch them go down and they're sort of doing a decent speed but I thought them being go- karters you know they've got their Senor frogs they race every year yeah I was like they're going to bomb it too yeah but they kind of just played it relatively safe I mean good time time but like I do think we we absolutely Center and we had this guy come up to us at the end like should you say yeah say and this guy comes up to us and go don't like freak out now or anything um but we're checking because we genuinely think this was one of the fastest of all time yeah like fastest soap boxes ever he thought we hit the world record run right there and then and they cuz they had to check them by the millisecond yeah and we were a fraction of a second off being the fastest ever 1 18 of a second something something ridiculous like that and uh so I think we were either the second or the third fastest of all time yeah there were rumors at the end of the day and I don't know whether it was Chip just winding us up being like the last car of the day was slightly faster yeah they they yeah they said something like the last car of the day actually broke the world record so if that is true we're the third fastest of all time if not we are the second fastest of all time to go down that track and we rather the second of the first fastest of this year's event which is just just the coolest thing ever like we to be fair have also like we couldn't have picked a design that was Better Built For Speed I mean it's so people were saying this is this is aerodynamic and I was thinking it is but I don't think it's going to make that much of a difference in this yeah scenario and whether it did or not or whether it was just the fact that you didn't break much yeah I think that was it it was quite heavy it was heavy as well you had one of the heavy ones so at the start you can tell this was one of the things we were saying we should have got two people cuz we only got Jake to shove us at the start yeah and when when you start off just going down the ramp it took us a while to pick up speed if we had sort of been shoved and started at a really good pace and kept it at that pace I genely think we could have built the record but I'm I want to do it again same that's why I wanted to keep that cuz we could have just modified that and send it down we know that's a winning formula yeah make it into a submarine or something yeah exactly that thing works but Red Bull like they they we had such a great time with them they did so much for us and we were so grateful and we were speaking see nothing guaranteed and stuff um but they were saying there's a potential for us to come back and maybe do the one that you know you launch off a ramp and you're like 10 m up whatever and you've got to Glide over water as far as possible there and there are loads of other sort of like cool Red Bull events and stuff to do so um yeah I think we make this a thing if we can do just more of this stuff yeah I loved it it was genuinely one of the best things I've ever done I think yeah and there's a the the the only annoying thing is there's so much footage it's going to take a while to get the video together because Red Bull have Clips we have clips they've sent us a hard driver clipse I've got stuff on my phone B has stuff on his phone Jake has stuff on his phone so we'll gather it all together but when the video comes out I think it'll be such a good one because so good the whole experience was just the coolest thing ever and we couldn't be more grateful to Red Bull for that the perfect run at the end we just ended it so perfectly the whole experience I think yeah it couldn't have gone better afterwards I so cool yeah I couldn't get the helmet off though we got to the very end I could not figure out how to unclip the helmet so I did the interview with a helmet on yeah they could not hear thing as well you hear me go oh the atmosphere was electric and I know he said the electric thing and then we um yeah we Kenny from South Park hanging out with us we to I finally I got someone to take my helmet off we drove the soap box down to the graveyard thing but they said they weren't going to break it we put it to one side it might be broken and then we had to run up the hill because we had to get on the live stream to do an interview straight afterwards yeah and oh my God you realize how far we came down Running Up That thing that it was 400 to 500 M back up a relatively Steep Hill on a very hot day we were exhausted from the day before and uh being out the night before and having the race and all that kind of stuff and in boiler suits and it was a hot day boiling I got so sweaty at the top we got to the top and we were like that was just a thoroughly unenjoyable experience but it was cool cuz there I heard I don't I think I told you at the time I heard a kid as we ran past he was like oh my God racers felt like an F1 driver in that moment yeah that really went straight to my head yeah I bet we felt a lot cooler than we probably looked just running around in boiler suits and I'm my Red Bull cap on we had shades on surprised he hasn't got that red bull cap on today by the way that thing you're going to have to peel that off his dead body I've been wearing it so much lady just cuz I I love it it's good for green screen stuff that is the one thing I I might start wearing cuts out the wispy hair yeah it cuts out the wispy hair which kind of ruin the illusion I've got that real issue whereas when you wear a cap it's like a smooth round thing and the green screen just looks much better I see my editors have all been like wear a cap as often as possible oh so they even so they tell you what to do huh you're not Char they do interesting well I keep my editors locked away and then I give them footage and they're like please I want to see my family please share an editor now no King yeah we do shout out king great honestly fantastic worker his work ethic he sent me a video and like couple hours later he was like actually here's a V2 I watched it back and I I could see some improvements I was like kind of mentality and he's not been editing for long either yeah so he's I think all selft talk cow's amazing as well they're both just great honestly yeah people listening a fascinated here about how much we love our tives yeah let's get back to the Red Bull so box race so then we did our interview at the very top which is when cuz we went down first so we were Then followed by all the other creators who did the race um we didn't really get to see them at the time cuz we were running up the the bloody Hill but um we got to the top they all slowly joined us did their interview and then it got revealed the scores so there were different categories we were like ranked on or scored on the first being performance and I I'm pretty sure the style of the cart comes into that as well yeah and so we what did we get like what was it 20 22 it was really bad 40 terrible score we got like a seven a six a three and a five something like that whoever gave us a three what's wrong with you huh they were grumpy though cuz I think chip and frezy got something like 39 and the guy that person gave them a nine apparently they were really mean scoring the whole time that's crazy but chip and fzy knew about the performance thing which we I know how they knew about that we had no idea chip and freezy raced as a box of 20 chicken McNuggets yeah and they brought like homemade barbecue sauce and just on each other yeah pry just poured it all over them it was good like as performances go that's like the best thing you can do yeah so they got a really great score like almost perfect just one guy dropped a mark on it um 39 out 40 but I feel like I feel like giving us a three was really harsh I know our performance wasn't great but the music was very fitting yeah and maybe we should have pretended we were on the moon with our jumping or something like walking like that he just had such a cool carard we had so little time to think about it yeah I feel like it was harsh though look at our car that was really cool yeah maybe we were also ranked harshly because we were the first creators to go down maybe maybe we would have got a better score if we were towards the end I don't know yeah maybe but um yeah we did really bad on that and then you get obviously score for your speed in finishing the race yeah which we smashed Everyone by like four four seconds or something or seven or eight yeah like seven or eight seconds Quicks first to second and the second fastest and I think Becky and pieace got a dnf finish either they hit a minute or they stopped completely yeah cuz they went over one of the jumps and then front end broke so the wheel wasn't really like or the front was touching the floor dragging across the floor so they just I felt bad for them they just ped all across but at least they got down in one piece that's the they were just in a pint glass yeah it was really cool and they had a they had a cool performance Becky poured pint on um pie which was funny um con and Jack had a cool performance they just had some Swagger about it like yeah it was cool oh yeah we got picked on the performance but they did struggle getting into the vehicle did they yeah CU it's really hard and narrow to get in um they got they everyone got all the way to the end by the way Colin Jack fell over at the end there thing just went on its side they they chose thinner Wheels I didn't think they were going to make it that far yeah they also had a really high center of gravity cuz their car was thin and quite tall yeah like if you looked at their car it looked like it wanted to fall over it was a bit like chitty chitty bang bang but like elongated yeah so they did really well to and they were drifting it as well it was drifting so they did really well to get to the bottom um but yeah we were like seven seconds quicker than seven or eight seconds quicker than the second fastest which was it chip and freezy or was it Con I think it might have been no chip and frezy was Heavy wasn't it to be fair so that would move um and then there was People's Choice which we said we won 49% and was those were those those three so I think the reason so we ended up coming third we came third out of the four I just think it wasn't like cuz we won two out of three categories you'd think we'd win but I think they gave they were sort of like weighted yeah so because we were so low on the performance us being ahead on the other two bits didn't pull us up enough I think it's really harsh I think it doesn't matter at all by the way I don't I don't care but I do think it's harsh that performance is weighted so heavily in comparison to like speed has got to be the most important thing yeah like it's a race I know that's that's the way we were looking at it that's because it's a race come on we were focus on the race as aspect obviously soap boxes isn't Formula 1 is supposed to be like a bit of fun cretive stuff which you do get um but yeah hard winning two out of three categories and winning the race comfortably well it was more like at in the moment when they were revealing who won out of us four I was thinking in my head oh we've definitely won yeah after winning we got like 50% of the votes for People's Choice so it was a landslide Victory they said and a landslide Victory on the speed so I was thinking we have smashed those two things so surely we've gained loads of points for that yeah and we came third I was like I'm actually quite shocked by that I in my head I was thinking oh my God we've won yeah but um no it was so means anything like there's I don't there's nothing for it yeah I was just surprised but genuinely so it was so good yeah it was it was definitely definitely one of the best things I've ever done I was so glad that we did it I can't wait for the proper video to come out and have it all like a documentary s of documented archive just being like Oh I can look back at that video that was a banger yeah oh it was it was really good um then we stuck around and watched some public racing um and yeah there was it was it was nice there was a nice like area where you could get food and stuff and the worms showed up oh yeah lots of the patreon supporters a couple of N and non patreon people showed up lots of podcast people I'm guessing everyone there was podcast listeners because I didn't really put it on any platform no I think it it was all podcast we spoken about on the on on the podcast and in the patreon group chat quite a lot yeah and that was pretty much it so thank you well regardless if it's yeah thank you guys for coming along cuz it was so nice speaking to everyone great really great to have your support um yeah and yeah you guys were there for most of the day just like stood by our um what do you call it Soap Box stood by our Soap Box we were coming over when we could to say hi and stuff yeah everyone got photos we oh my goodness quite a lot of people wanted us to draw tattoos for them oh dear and we are not artistic no we're close yeah I'm a letter away but I not draw sa in my life and I was like the only thing I could think of was the rocket emoji yeah that was pretty good to be fair I was trying to draw them but getting the three little things at the bottom and the fire I was like I was like show this to your artist and they'll get what I'm trying to draw yeah they'll understand I mean I just ended up drawing flowers CU it's the easiest thing to draw it's got nothing to do with me a lot of art what just happened you just got bored of your own conversation I just yawned I was hoping you take it off me really quickly cuz I yawned no someone asked for a cameo once where they were like can you draw something for us to do a tattoo and I did a a ringed planet oh nice and oh my goodness trying to get cuz obviously if you put the circle there first the ring that goes in front like cuts through lines and it looks crap so you've kind of got to start with the ring but obviously just as the ring curves back around you have to stop and then you have to imagine where the sphere is going to be and oh my goodness I burnt through about half this notebook trying to get one that just looks semi-reasonable so whoever invented Saturn fair enough yeah exactly that must have been difficult and Uranus yep that's also ringed yeah um many too many rings yeah I've got a ring do you oh yeah and that weekend batch proposed to me so I said yes no I'm talking about my ass what anyway um it was it was a different kind of proposition to the one you were thinking of yours is way cuter than mine and I said no oh hell no I just got that that's disgusting cuz I was like on Saturday night we were just chilling we were like go we're exhausted yeah and I was like do you want to just stay around and Bach was like yeah so we played fornite and watch scary movies yeah he took me to get sushi again yeah we went to sticks and Sushi again but I was like I kind of want to make more videos but we were just so tired yeah I it was too late you just what you made me watch horror stuff we we watched a bunch of scary videos on YouTube like real ghost sightings and short horror movies and I was like I've wanted to do videos like that with you ages I was like then was the perfect time but our energy was just shock yeah we'll do it we'll definitely do it another time though CU people just love that love that horror game yeah is entertaining to watch other people get scared people don't want to watch you have fun they want to watch you cringe and be scared people enjoyed us having fun of Minecraft true but you were scared of I died like five six times I'm not very good clearly everyone's making fun of me did I die once I didn't I don't think no but your spirit died at one point hell no my spirit my spirit was always my spirit were through the roof um when I was getting attacked by Leona Lewis and I was hiding in the house turns out Leona Lewis can't go in water so I should have just gone in water I saw that comment yeah thanks for that thanks for the comment I'm actually going to use that logic and I I already want to film episode three right now do you yeah it was so fun we'll do it this week actually it's so fun like I enjoy playing it we're just loading up M fil although he needs a he needs a setup can we can we tell this boy to put some money towards a proper setup he plays on his PlayStation so we have to play Bedrock Edition so I can't use my nice shaders that make the waters and everything look clean and all the like graphics and stuff you know the like it's T's water we're keeping it the graphics upgrades are insane look just just a bit enjoy a humble bit of like Minecraft where it's nostalgic not everything has to be polished yeah okay fine um but no it was it was really good fun and it is it is I do love that we can just do that kind of stuff and just play a game and it would be fun yeah um we can just like high five when we want yeah anyway um back to let's go back in time to um the end of the race he wet himself no he didn't he didn't no he didn't but um I just want to make sure that we covered everything no because we didn't speak about um the stunt the stunts oh yeah you should tell them about the stunt they they just flung on you they didn't tell you until yeah they didn't tell me about this before and they made me sign my rights away yeah and it it was they had already Ked off the live stream so you just had to do it yeah um we basically batch got nice one he got pulled aside and they were like oh is the driver we're testing your reflexes yeah and what did they do they so she dropped a ruler and you just had to grab the ruler um as soon as she dropped it and just see how many centimeters you let drop to judge your reaction time I didn't do I think I came second actually nice but on the practice I failed uh so I was like oh that was nice and peaceful and fun I wonder what mine's going to be and they get me and they they I put this heart monitor on and I was like what they put this heart monitor on me put me in the middle of this cage and this dude called like Douglas or something comes up in this massive dirt bike and just goes like I'll lie down in the middle and I was like I know exactly where this is going got R to me and Jack just start planking and he's sort of in this giant he giant of a man I swear he's like 6'4 in this massive dirt bike and he's sort of there like on one wheel bouncing the like wheel like an inch from my head and I'm like if he just if anything misjudges he crushes my skull yeah like we we we lose one of the Bright Young talents of this generation and you as well wait what do you mean well they'd get Jack and you oh yeah yeah good old Jack and then then he was doing like wheelies around your head like just driving past full speed past his head yeah it was giving me the E actually see lie down there insane and I was just like well I'm playing it cool cuz that's like the name of the game it'd be cringe if I got up and I mean they they even said that if you get up you're at risk of just getting your head whacked cuz he's like an inch within your head so if you move it until you die yeah um and for like a minute he just did this and bounced around and yeah you were down there for a hot minute yeah we were there for ages just getting driven around I thought oh this is just getting this is just cruel now yeah I mean the poor boy is just lying there with a boner by the way uh because he gets that happens when he gets scared just why you think I keep getting you for horror games oh no i h on a Bo so he's just doing circling circling circling around Arthur on the floor it just I just felt a bit sorry for him in the end yeah uh so that was terrifying but good F night you know I'm up for anything I did realized the other day I'm just one of his friends who's just up for thing yeah you are actually someone could be like hey we're going to sit inside and watch movies tonight I be like fine or they can be like come on man we're robbing a bank I'm like cool they'll be like come on going glamping for the weekend do you is that real though if I said or okay let's go and watch the Euros tonight fine let's do it England England this is the last night of the group stage and all of a sudden the mood is really dead because we're just through now we've not played well either it's been pathetic there I said it and Harry Kane when you finally come on this podcast I've got some strong words to have with you mine mine Reserve is Gareth Southgate and not bringing BR and not playing kobby Mayu okay sorry Harry Kane actually way he's playing phenomenally to be not as if we're missing him but I'm mad at you Southgate yeah Italy um not playing too bad oh my goodness you're Italian did you watch the game last night and they scored the 90th plus eight to go through 98th minute it was the draw against Croatia oh that was heartbreaking poor the thing is they probably would have gone through anyway as one of the people third but um it's nice to confirm it you know yeah those moments of elation just so hard I think Italy just like a decent Striker anyway we won't bore you with football because a lot of people probably don't care about football yeah um but yeah I mean I'm getting into F1 now yes you are you watch drive to survive right yeah I've been watching drive to surv I need to get on that I really want to watch that um and hence why the Red Bull so box race I was really in I was really in my element Because You Loved does it make you love Red Bull as well the driver to survive does it follow a particular team it follows the mall and to be honest I haven't really got like a team I really um it's not like I really want to see this team win it's more people that you care about it's good to see Red Bull doing well but um I like Lando do you yeah you're Lando Norris enjoyer I'm a Lando enjoyer I like them all to be fair from what I've seen I like I get I like Char all oh cuz he kind he kind of looks like Charles mclair uh yeah I get uh Lando Norris a lot people always say like L nor I'm not sure about that boy and uh obviously like V stappen red the Red Bull goat what batch V stappen high five what does that even mean batch for steppen me batch for steppen batch for steppen me instead of Max for Sten batch for Sten it's one of the only times that batch really goes into anything batch for Sten what do people nickname you at school get tuna boy cuz I've brought in tuna fish boy uh right I was going duckling I was going for more names like name related like okay because I was oh name related I was I was called nothing I was just called Arthur I don't know why I said it like that I was called Nothing me yeah had no friends at school no I didn't really people would say ice as a joke ice yeah I just I didn't like not having a cool nickname name my sister one of my sisters calls me Izzy that's really cringe and feminine yo she watches these which is fine yo she watches these apologize down the lens right now I apologize nothing cuz it is it was true it was my truly held opinion and you should never apologize for being yourself sometimes she calls me Elizabeth as well what and I don't really know where she got that from she started that was a good what what yeah she watches it where she works as she was working she'll have it on Gizzy by the way I didn't get cancelled for what Sunday came out where I waterboarded Chris I haven't watched that and I was seriously worried I was genuinely like I thought you know just some people on the internet can be real yeah cuz they might be like oh you're making fun of water boarding people actually die from water boarding that's not what I exactly what I meant oh because okay you can't waterboard Chris because he doesn't like water and some people have been drowned before no okay of course because because you shouldn't do water boarding because it's like saying this is something you should it's really on impressionable fans and they'll be like okay I'm going to water board my mom tonight right maybe maybe that was like oh you shouldn't do that on to an impression I'm going to cancel you right now in that case um but no I I I just thought people would be like oh that was so mean of him they're not friends like just you know when you don't really know I mean obviously anyone who's seen Chris and videos knows how much abuse he puts me through I mean that guy abuse shs down on my neck like there's no tomorrow he's just I I'll just be chilling mid shootting he'll just go on my traps I mean granted they're juicy like they're nice muscular defined um have you ever thought you might just be a vampire I don't know hiding in plain sight you know you've got two Pierce marks right there you getting sucked by you've got really garlicky breath so I don't think I could be a a vampire cuz otherwise let's not start rumors like that otherwise I'd run there's not start rumors like that yeah my breath smells like daisies rainbows fairy tales I'm always chewing gum you are always chewing gum you're a real gum chewer yeah it Bo it boosts your confidence it's like putting a pair of sunglasses on I'm glad you don't do it on the podcast that would be the most annoying thing to listen to I have done it before but I just tuck it into my teeth like snz you don't mean that it's gum you don't mean that it's gum it's just weird you don't mean that it's gum gum started freaking out you know we were speaking about eggs the other day when you you're Midway through eating heads and you're like wait up yeah that's a period something ain't right that's a menstrual cycle raor and you're like yeah well that weirdly makes me like it more it's more than I knew you were a feminist me too come on yeah um we do like to bring awareness to the fact that women exist and have Cycles cuz I I I mentioned menstrual cycles all the time and I in one of my YouTube videos I was like I've got to stop saying menstrual cycles drop a comment if you think I should stop saying menual cycle everyone's like no and someone's like no it actually feels kind of feminist in a weird way cuz you're bringing light to the fact of cuz not everyone knows that women have I think everyone knows women have periods I found out 3 days ago watching your video you thought they had penis what I just thought they merely existed they merely exist in a in a realm Between Heaven and Hell where somewhere I love doesn't exist what the hell is this guy talking about women only exist in heaven women are heaven on Earth in my opinion how does that song Go heaven heaven for what it's worth women are heaven on Earth women are heaven on Earth brother in Christ you don't know what you're talking about right now I feel like we're getting on to Serious brain rot have you got anything else this is a rare batch prepared actually been praying preparing a lot um all of the episodes lately we've actually yeah hence why the quality's increased um no you just you do stuff in a different way I like like reading and talking reading well next episode's prepared by by Arthur and we'll be filming this directly after this one yeah we're doing complet transparency cuz batch is way on holiday and I'm going to be honest because I'm not I've not brought a spare pair of clothes anyway yeah me neither I don't want to hear no comments like why is he wearing that shirt again well they should be comenting CU alth this on an episode before quite frankly Arthur is either can I just say by the way I predicted what you were going to be wearing on the Red Bull meal I said Arthur will turn up in Black corduroy shorts um and a cream beige top shirt either worn as an overshirt with a white t-shirt underneath or just a shirt that's exactly what you were that's true I mean I have two other pairs of shorts I had a black like pair that were like had textured but the waistband thing snapped hard to find a good pair of shorts and then I had a nice like cream beige pair yeah um but they were just like I don't know linen and just ended up being a bit too and take it from a guy a sleepover with him he doesn't take them off he showers in them he goes me to take them off he was like take them off take them off take them off and I was like leave me alone yeah I was like please wash please wash you were just misreading me I wasn't saying take them off I was like please wash please wash anyway I I got the um I went into the patreon chat o uh little plug if you want to join the patreon go ahead there's a chat you get early access to episodes they get uploaded all the time and Bullies me in it yeah I do speak in there a fair amount um and I said to them we're filming two pods today can you guys reply to this message with any questions you have about the Red Bull Soapbox race we're going to be doing a whole episode on it uh because I thought there might be you know they might want to know more information on how it was built or how we were feeling and stuff and we could just give us some insight to that we've just explained the day how cool it was blah blah blah but they want to know the BTS let's see how insightful their questions can be okay did you hurt your nose that's [ __ ] rude no I didn't that obviously pointed at you no I didn't to be fair I did we had said in an episode prior that there was no foam and we are going to smash our faces in they put foam in we had good helmets on but we didn't actually crash so yeah we didn't crash so although his coxic bone is in pain yeah my coxics I'm absolutely fine because I'm not weak that's your tailbone um may ask for us highly evolved Apes that was from Brooke by the way I'll say names shout outs May says how SL why did you decide to build a rocket why I guess cuz it's very on brand for us have a look at our mugs yep yeah I mean we're just we're were're a Spacey themed podcast for no apparent reason we genely I'm sure we said in the earlier episodes we had no plans to be themed and bats just randomly one day went let's just make it space themed I just think it's cool yeah me I just think we both think it's cool we do we just need a cool set I think most of the things we do is because we think oh that's cool like the Soap Box we thought oh it'd be cool if we did a a ship or a ufi yeah just cuz it just cuz it's funny someone actually messaged in for the next one I've got like the submissions from the normal submissions page which everyone can enter just go to our any of our socials at Bach and arur and in the link there's like a a link tree and one of them is the submissions form and they were like what is your target audience because I can't really figure it out and I'm studying media at the moment target audience is such a big thing and I was like we don't have one we just come on talk about whatever we find interesting yeah and just hope that some people agree yeah and the people who do listen are actually very um diverse yeah and intelligent and cool and good looking and all this yeah um so yeah no um yeah and it's weird because we're not sitting there going oh let's talk about this to appeal to this audience which I think is I mean somehow it works so thank you guys for tuning into thanks cuz I think if you analyzed it in like a media class and it was like oh one minute you're doing brain rot meme references and the next you're talking about s men and then the next we're talking about Greek philosophy and the next one like Roman Parables and then religion they'd be like well someone's going to listen to the one episode like it and then not like the rest yeah but for some reason people just like listening to it all really I think we just decided that we're just going to do what we want like yeah whatever we enjoy yeah like whatever we enjoy and whatever we F feel like talking about we're just going to do it because if you want to enjoy something you've like if you want this if we want this podcast to continue we've got to enjoy it and if we're looking at it tactically like Oh Let's do an episode on this so we can boost our audience in this demographic it will start to feel like a like a real job well like you know I've heard from other people that do podcasts that their producers will be like today you're having this guest on and they're like well I've never watched the show they're on or Never follow them don't care about the story but I've got to do it's nice that we kind of have a just able to just go oh whatever and I do think the stuff we talk about is interesting broadly like if you're someone who like whenever we meet or speak to anyone who watches the podcast they're always like oh I love like these types of interesting discussions I feel like if you have a generally curious mind yeah like if if people who are listening to this and enjoy it are going to be similar to us in that respect and they you know even if they don't have a an interest in any of the particular like they might be like oh I love hearing about religion I'm a curious person but they don't care about Greek philosophy yeah or anything when we speak about the ship of thesis they're still like oh it's an interesting thought like it's an interesting thought so if you're one of those types of people like us then all that kind of stuff is interesting I guess thus our our demographic is people who just have similar interests to us yeah or like have a similar outlook on life or yeah that's the thing it's not even like it's just it's the broad value of curiosity I think who just like they like to laugh they like a bit of Comedy cuz we even get people who disagree with us and they're like oh I'm religious I completely disagree with this all but it was so interesting to listen to and so they're not listening because we're speaking about things that they find um they agree with or they enjoy you know but they're going like oh like I like the way these topics are approached or the way this is discussed and yeah so yeah hopefully we'll try and keep that up um hey no way we're going to brain Rock 24/7 after here or no anyway um Connie asked what was your top speed we don't actually know but what did you think it was 30 well when we passed we passed the speed gate at what will be one of the fastest points and that was 30 okay mil K yeah km pH um Leia says do you think you were going to make it to the Finish Line did you think you were going to make it to the Finish Line I genuinely um did not think we were going to make it past the chicane to be honest yeah cuz I didn't realize the course was as wide as it was however the as narrow as it was you mean actually yeah yes and no the thing is it's like driving a car when you're in a car it looks like you're you're bigger than the road but actually you can fit in much smaller of a gap than you expect yourself to be able to and so when you're actually in the soap box when we were doing the chicane in my head I thought we're going to catch one of the hay bals and go flying but actually although it was actually pretty close watching it back it felt like I had enough room to get round and stuff well two hay bals we did fully slic through well yeah if the wings were like flat fronted we would have we could have just spun out flown but because the wings were just like yeah we the first one and then the second one we through that yeah um but in no I didn't think we were going to make it down in one piece to be honest I thought either we'd get to the end and there' be damage or we'd fall over at the end or we just wouldn't make it to the end cuz it's not a like it more often than not you don't make it to the end yeah so I thought statistically I didn't I didn't think we were going to make it to the end so I was surprised were you or not it's so funny because at the start you're like I really don't know but be when you're going down it's so fast and you've got to think a lot like yeah I was just constantly thinking like just monitoring whether we were going too fast or not to be like bring the speed down ever so slightly and it's everything's happening so fast you don't have time to think oh are we going to make it like any hypotheticals it's just uh pull the break break on break off break off oh my goodness are we going to make this corner are we going to too fast at how are we doing like all this kind of stuff's rushing through your head I didn't even think about it I was no so yeah I had no thoughts in my head either I think we were just on reflex at that point yeah because every yeah like Arthur said everything's coming at you so quick like before the chane I thought I had enough time to put my hand up and wave and I was like [ __ ] no I don't yeah so that's when I came back onto the wheel and did that so we really don't have much time in that thing um then Phoenix asks what was the hardest and easiest part of the creative process oh hard po was coming up with an idea for what we wanted to do as the car because we took ages like they were asking us for the design for so long and we were like we really don't know it is hard when you can do literally anything it's like the classic situation where you've got too much Choice yeah so you can't make a decision and neither necessarily creative creative types yeah so we and also it's it's difficult as well when there's two people because obviously if one person wants to do something we we agreed yeah we we didn't have any friction on what we wanted to do we because we both didn't really have an idea but you've got to make sure that what one person comes up with the other person's happy to do um but I think from the go we just suggested either a space shuttle or UFO we were both happy with those two ideas and then we had a look at some pictures and we thought okay let's go for a space sh that was it yeah so I think that um it was hard in the beginning but to to be honest the decision process was pretty easy for us in the end I do think the hardest part although that was hard I think what was harder for us was probably um building the chassis don't you think it was harder than the woodwork yeah that's probably true cuz we didn't have any engineer assistance with the underly car yeah the actual chassis itself we just had bits like we didn't have instructions for half of it we were in in a big Warehouse with just a bunch of nuts bolts rods	I said Arthur will turn up in Black corduroy shorts um and a cream beige top shirt either worn as an overshirt with a white t-shirt underneath or just a shirt that's exactly what you were that's true I mean I have two other pairs of shorts I had a black like pair that were like had textured but 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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0g_xJvKEb8	4,108	-0g_xJvKEb8	2024-06-27 00:00:00	[Music] what's up everybody welcome back to episode 14 of the batch and Arthur podcast yay go thanks for joining everyone we have something to reveal yes we do I know you guys don't like it when Arthur has his mug on the couch because he tends to drop things don't you never dropped anything actually okay you dropped that th done remember that well you might have noticed I also have my mug on the sofa mhm wondering why who wants to know why should we tell them something to do with one like equals one Lara maybe something to do with that exactly you guys ready see what you reveal go way for audio listeners we have white mugs with our little cartoon characters on them that's right little will I didn't want to Cheers you and I've got my little handsome space guy come on yeah Lara surprised us with these this is a gift um mine shatterproof as well apparently oh it's not sh yeah he's got a plastic mug because we know what he's like I've sippy C the audio listeners actually little rubber cppy cup with two handles well actually when Arthur drinks from a mug show them how you do it I'll I'll commentate for this he uses two hands so he grabs on the like handle and then he grabs the other hand I drink everything with two hands especially tea and Pints yeah I don't really know what is there a reason for that or not safety I guess twice as balanced is that really if one arm stops working the other one's there as a fail safe well there you go that's why he does it guys so it makes sense all after all yeah um speaking of batch and Arthur this podcast design right here yeah this has been plasted on something recently what our rocket ship oh yeah guys we just got back from the Red Bull Soap Box race and we're alive 2024 we genuinely were not sure we were going to survive no I was but we did really scared we we turned up we got to see other people's cards um and there was basically two things going on so there's like a public race and then the Creator race was like a separate thing which is streamed on YouTube If you go on Red Bull's um YouTube channel and you go on under the live tab you can actually watch the full thing yeah we were like a half time race yeah it was Bas half time show yeah there was a few people who weren't happy about the Creator's uh racing cuz they thought we were mixed in with the public but it's like a whole separate thing like we can't win any awards over the public or anything like that yeah um but but we won the hearts of the public come on yeah we did win the hearts of the public there was a a couple of things that you were like rated on as creators and one of them was People's Choice and we got a landslide victory of 44% yeah it actually ended up on 49% 50% out of four teams we got 49 everyone rounds 49 thank you to everyone who voted for us we one of four teams but we're up against chip and freezy who have a big loving audience Becky and pieace who audience and then con from the siden huge loving audience and the guy who's our cameraman on the train video the siden that's right Jack was there as well went to with con they had cool out but uh we we got to Ali p uh that's my first time there you've been there before actually I think we should start the day before okay let's let's reel that [ __ ] back because we had another sleepover kind of yeah we did have another let's just say oh no we didn't really a hotel yeah we did not have a sleepover but what did we do where did we first meet we we met at the we met at the hotel at the hotel dropped our bags off Adam was there he's the Red Bull guy that was been looking after us and he took all the creators out to dinner yeah we to find the tell first yeah chopped a pint um both hands come on yeah then we got in a taxi we went to dinner we had a create a dinner um what did you eat pizza yeah I had a really really hot hot pizza but the thing I was enjoying the most was the football we had a massive screen in front of us oh yeah cuz France were playing Netherlands NE scen I felt kind of harsh cuz the the table was positioned in a way that only half of us could see the football and the other half were just watching us watching football yeah but no he they were watching a react video basically they got to see us live reacting In the Flesh um but the meal was really good the food was really good uh Jake was struggling Jake the guy works with um Arthur they both got the same Pizza he was struggling with the heat yeah he was [ __ ] [ __ ] struggling with the Pint as well got two pints steep was steaming no cuz he was so in denial Jake yeah Jake had a couple pints and he was gone we were like you are drunk he like I am not drunk and he was getting angry mad I'm not even drunk he's I haven't even done anything later he's doing karaoke so that's belting out karaoke with his phone to the to the mic with with voice note on my God it's so that was you singing those Tunes to someone yeah we yeah CU you've been to a place before should we say the name of the place or not I actually I don't remember it anyway okay we went to this place anyway Arthur's been there before it's um like a karaoke bar with uh like an arcade and bowling and there's a dance floor and like a bar and stuff like that yeah very good fun we all went there did some karaoke went there for Arthur Hill's birthday that's how I found out about it what a place it is a cool place actually um yeah did a bit of karaoke we were in there for a couple hours doing karaoke in the end yeah um belting at tunes by the way batch can sing No Arthur can sing yeah but I think people would assume that from but that goes without saying no but but Frank Sinatra came on and oh my goodness batch was just cooking that thing anyone can sing Frank arra welcome back Frank Sinatra he died and this is him reborn wasn't wasn't he heavily involved with the mafia Frank Sinatra so are you you're a quter Italian that's true but I can't admit that no not legally anyway oops they're going to come and get me try and come and get me watch me beat beat you all up actually I shouldn't say what if they do don't come and get me please I was just kidding I've got nothing to do with him he lives on 32 Italian back street oh my god that actually is my house number H what don't say that it's not that's my apartment number as well no we you're not finding out where we live um I'm going to move in with Arthur anyway we moved in together on Minecraft yeah sort of anyway back to karaoke we had fun at karaoke then we went home we didn't get back till 3:00 a.m. silly move because we had to be up early yeah we had it well not that early we had 10: a.m. taxi picks up yeah but we met at breakfast at 9:30 it was the most romantic breakfast of my life yeah um and then stayed at the Hilton Red Bull of class they put us in there they also like what a lovely experience not only did they take us to dinner they they paid for karaoke and everything like that they covered everything shout out to Red Ball I'm going to crack One open right now and they're actually delicious all these colored red balls my actual favorite is the summer edition you guys should actually try this this is not sponsored but I'm just saying this is not even the first thing I I did I went to salburg in Austria and did some Red Bull salburg video shooting with Chris MD um we did like penal sh outs in games with mads bistrup for their YouTube channel and then did a video in it was the the final one of christed uh every time you beat a Defender the defender gets upgraded that's right yeah and we start off with like Harry R Shaw as the worst Defender when all the way up to Champions League mads bistr who fantastic player I mean yeah you realize how like when you watch t uh football on TV you think oh I could do that yeah but then if you see a actual Pro in real life yeah like that makes sense why you went pro now actually we need to do more charity so that was fun that was fun there are a lot going on it's just timings cuz there's so many things going on during summer and that's usually when charity matches go down yeah but you got to work in the schedules either you're away or I'm away or there's a brand trip or something has to be submitted in time was crazy yeah but um no I'm sure we're going to do a lot more stuff with Red Bull as well so that's exciting um but anyway we then got the taxi to Alex Alexandra Palace Ali pal come on and um I've only just realized that's why it's Ali P really yeah I just thought that Ali P was the hill and Alexandre Palace was no way Ali now I've just heard it okay that's Ali P right anyway U you almost did a off the TV intro that right right so then we uh we got into the race so no we got into the Zone where the race was going on yeah and we got to have a little scout out all the public submitted soap boxes some really cool stuff in there yeah although there was one weird one because we rock up and there are like four girls gathered around water is essentially a double bed one girl just tucked up and you back like oh this is cool and she was like yeah it's really cozy get in we were like no I I ain't doing all that I'm sure though that you know that wasn't actually her like lying in it yeah I know you could tell something was weird under the covers but I was not getting involved what what what the hell um oh you can't see my soundboard I've got to pull this back so I can soundboard here yeah he hasn't got a soundboard yet thank goodness although I should no they all see the comments by the way Lara and Arthur see the comments and Lara even said into the group chat she was like I think we need to get bat of soundboard because of all the comments she sent me a message being like listen we've got one purchase a year we can authorize either we get cool mugs or batch gets a soundboard and I was like mugs mugs oh hell no I just think it's so much funnier when you do it yourself and go to I do think so but this is going to get worn down and eventually there's going to be a Hole uh oh audio listeners don't know what I'm doing I I just I pretend there's a soundboard and I just push the sof and make my I do it as well I do it in real life I'll be speaking to people when I'm BR but it doesn't make his much sense in real life just in a conversation he's just air poking stuff as he goes brh you know what's so funny as well I showed batch this someone one of you guys one of our listeners because cuz I you do it quite a lot but I do it all the time at you do the what yeah what that thing someone did a Tik Tok called whatting people in public so she goes into this petrol station goes to pay she goes like how much is that and he goes like Oh 1350 and she just goes what loud so loud just yells it in this man's face and everyone was like bad bad you guys have to recreate this it was so funny yeah and then Arthur was like we've got to do this we've got I don't know if I have the like what is it um social confidence to do that I'd be able to do it not yell it I thought it was a bit rude though the loud yelling not in a bad I'm not criticizing you I just able to do that like that myself I'd be like what I think sorry you got no no soup of the day what what when you have a camera on you though that you get a new found confidence in public like I found no no no in general I don't know if you agree with this in like a sidan video I Feel Like rules don't apply like social rules then don't apply cuz you've got a camer on you and you can do what you want whatever you want yeah I've only recently started being able to finally find it within myself to Vlog like when we were at wagas I was like this is actually fine yeah whereas before IID look at people vlogging in public and I go I admire you a lot cuz I can never do that it helps having people around you yeah although I feel like we do it with our phones it's a bit easier that's true whereas if people with their cameras out like facing their way I'm like oh my goodness I'd be so embarrassed yeah I think I would be as well especially if you got like a big rig on the end of that thing people are just admiring you your rig yeah both of them come on anyway um what speaking of the soap boxes that we saw um there was this one there was like these four guys like lying down chilling and they had this like Dome oh yeah which was kind of like a I guess like a spa you know the space shuttles that come down to earth it kind of looked a bit like that didn't yeah um like a landing module yeah like a landing module and they what did what did they make it off fiberglass or something yeah oh my God you could smell it from where we were still and they were like stick your head in that so we stuck it you stuck your head in first took a whiff and I did it afterwards oh my God dizzying genuinely dizzying I'm high I'm still high from that moment if anyone's ever been in like a a surfboard shop where they like make the surfboards yeah it smells like that it just smell exactly like that and they bizarre I just burped on I thought that was what that was that was disgusting hopefully that didn't get picked up apologize sorry guys sorry if you heard that cut that out anyway um it's not getting cut uh it they had to spend the whole run down in that thing so I think those guys are a little bit waved yeah I'm glad we I'm glad we were just a team of two and had two seats because I kind of felt bad some people that pushed the Soap Box thing down yeah like running after it for like 50 meters and it was a hot day that's true like um most people was like a team of four and two would push two would be in it I think that's standard isn't it to have two people in the so box and then a team that will push and Chase it down probably chase down chip and freezies yeah funny it was funny as well the way he was running because I guess it was like a it was like Looney Tunes the way he had his arms up like that chasing them down to be fair there are people I felt more bad for he talking about some of the injuries of the day oh my God and this is the thing like good gosh man we were already nervous then we were then we got to S see our um vehicle which they had made some mods to by the way so put me at ease a little bit they put foam in the place where my head would smash oh yeah so I felt about that yeah um they didn't they were going to cut out the wheel arches so we could turn more but they didn't I'm glad they I actually think that worked in our favor in it did um and they were actually slagging it off when it went up on towards stage they were speaking about it on Mike and they were like they can't turn properly they can't see over it and I was thinking oh no they're slagging off our thing they were talking about our buckets on the back and stuff I don't know if they were slagging off the buckets or just speaking about I just heard bucket like they're talking about ours oh my god um but it actually worked in favor and then there was screens up showing the first runs and it took a while it like an hour or two after we got there till the first run um but did you see the Sheep one no I didn't see any of the big ones but that's a bad one there was a sheep we I was watching a sheep go down um it was just before you did your stunt I think and it got all the way to the end and then at full speed flipped over onto their necks and I think it was one of them that broke their collarbone and it looked awful and after seeing that me and pieace was stood together we were like I we genuinely don't want to go down after seeing that he was [ __ ] it I was [ __ ] it um and then not only that I think other people must have like been bruised or whatever but the other big one that we heard about is we when we got to the start line we were there waiting for like 10 minutes and it was cuz the person who went down before us got knocked out so that's crazy yeah which I didn't see I don't think we'll ever see any footage of that but I don't know what vehicle it was or anything I just heard that they got knocked out that's why we were up there for ages yeah I mean it was going down insanely fast yeah it look I mean it looks quick on camera but it doesn't look nearly as quick as it feels yeah when you're in that thing oh my goodness and you can barely see in front of you you're bouncing all over the place you're hitting these jumps there are bits where there's foam that like splashes you in the face you have a few seconds of blindness yeah it's mental it it to best describe it definitely feels faster than sitting in a car at 60 MPH I'd say faster than it feels sitting in a car going 100 yeah cuz you're so exposed to we've never gone 100 I've been on the auto bar in Germany okay fair um but yeah you're exposed so it just feels so quick but we were quick insanely Qui insanely quick I think everyone we were the first of the creators to go up everyone thought we were going to just crash yeah or just be crap and slow there was so many comments so many DMs I got afterward was like [ __ ] fair enough before we even went down though before we get cuz we we will react we'll show you us going down yeah but I think we should tell them actually maybe should we hit play and then we'll pause at certain bits to be like explainer yeah I'll tell you what it plays it goes all the way through and then they do it in slow-mo afterwards we can on the slow-mo we'll do some explanation okay here we go batch and Arthur we had the podcast sticker oh it was such a good sticker on the side which was really cool and they zoomed in out loads for the YouTube video which is great yeah was all over the stream which was ideal although you cannot see podcast there until someone shads over it yeah someone's just shattering we were stood up there for ages genuinely yeah because someone had just been knocked out looking down this hill that was just so steep it's not funny but look at that thing that's so impressive it's so well built I can't believe it and I'm I'm gutted because I actually wanted to say to the we had a little bit of help from the Red Bull Engineers yeah I wanted to say thank you to them more just be like what did you see that that was really good yeah if anyone knows anything by any chance please pass on our thanks because yeah they they helped us hopefully they watched it and saw a great deal uh but we did do a lot I mean we did spend two full days building this thing and printing it up and stuff so yeah which you'll obviously see in the Vlog I'll talk about I'll talk about something later cuz there's um this was posted to Tik Tok and there's some funny comments on there really basically yeah basically calling us desk dwellers what so this is our performance so this performance we didn't know we no was supposed to do we we were told to choose a piece of music so we chose something like Space Odyssey style but we had no idea that meant we had to perform yeah and like like she's saying like there are points for performance and we knew about 10 minutes beforehand that this 30 second period of Music we'd have to Performance so we were like let's just do something simple gum shields in the mouth bow and get in and they were harsh they gave us a three but that also also counts to the way the vehicle looks so I think three is Harsh yeah but here we go performance score 22 poor but this is when we started racking up speed the steering was really weird as well cuz it changed as we got quicker and we were just bouncing as we went down like we'd hit a ramp and oh my goodness like almost front flipped that around we Whi around the corner and our our genuine one of our wings like clipped a ha Bell and just sliced through it that one sliced through the hay Bell I was thinking as we came down I swear I would have hit that side had I not hit that side and then nailed the braking and you said you could smell burnt rubber when you were breaking on that thing cuz I was like tickling the brakes like before a jump every now and then I do one all as we approached the chicane I pulled it yeah um but they said as we were going down in the commentary like yeah oh this feels fast usually you're hitting like low 20s here and it comes up on the side and we're hitting 30 km an hour yeah we were going and we were oh my goodness I'm glad you didn't break touch the break though we didn't need it yeah yeah I mean you did a did a little bit but I mean the others obviously touched it a lot more yeah I basically kept us at a speed where I was like this is very close to the line of like where we can make this corner at the speed because at the end of the day as a race and I was like we don't want to get up at the end and just be like oh like a couple of the soite boxes made it halfway down and just like stopped completely yeah and they were like having to like like I don't know like Shake It Forward it's so awkward like we did speak and we did say we'd actually rather crash going pretty quick than come to a grinding hle because it's just not good material yeah like we did it for Content wants to see that it's for a video we know representing creators at half time yeah so many people watching we've got a space shuttle that is designed at a velocity of 17,000 500 mph yeah so we were like you know hitting to be honest when they gave us those uh cuz we asked for special helmets that covered the face yeah when they gave me that I felt invincible and I thought oh [ __ ] it and we had gum Shields that we like ped poured into boiling water molded them before and molded them so we we felt pretty safe yeah I mean but still at 30 we weren but I don't have miles hour or kilm an hour I think it was mph I actually do really yeah but whatever it is at 30 like genuinely like just whacking your head against something solid is well I mean someone did get knocked out and broke it was terrifying yeah they they then do a slow-mo okay let's watch the slow-mo and we can break down exactly because I was thinking there was a point in the chicane when we really Whi round I was thinking why did that happen it was because the back right wheel wasn't on the ground when we were coming up to the chicane so when it touched the the ground it turned us into a corner so I was like [ __ ] and I had to spin it around one way and then back around the other way oh that's why we had that major wobble yeah and you can see it it's like it's cuz one of the wheels wasn't on the ground okay let's let's watch and like in the first one we'll try and go for the audio listeners kind of describe what we're seeing yeah so the first jump yeah we it was a heavy a heavy bit of Kit as well we definitely had one of the heavier ones it and it was like so we got through here the back that wheel wasn't on the ground so like had to correct it well the chicane of just having to go really quick left and then really quick right after yeah and then this pit we hit a bunch of stairs and bch basically grinds on the right hand of them it's cuz afterwards we had to be on the right hand side so I was thinking I can't turn directly after I'm going to have to turn on the ramp like the CL the the course is split in two with like steps on the left and straight on the right and we go down the steps but like half dangling off yeah you have a choice whether to do jumps or not obviously we were going to do the jumps cuz you get docked time um no they add time on if you go round cuz it's a bit unfair yeah but we you were just like let's head it yeah and after the first jump it it looks like we really jump around I don't know about you but in it it didn't feel that bad I I think I'm the exact opposite cuz I was going flying and my bum still Hur May was our positioning or cuz I was holding on to this when yeah I had nothing to hold on to I was just sat on a blue seat I re yeah I reckon that's what it was cuz it kept me like sort of planted you fix and you're in the center so with us like when when you go off the Jump the nose sort of goes down yeah it did and then the back col kicks up into the air and then slams down and because I'm at the back you really got you know I've got a lot further to fall and I just got whacked and my butt like when I sit on the sofa like no I can feel it bruised on I was actually un unscared I was absolutely fine yeah God it was um after that first jump though I got a lot more confidence in the run I was thinking oh that was fine I can we can do all the [ __ ] jumps yeah I just got full speed no I rate it I'm so glad you just sent it cuz and you I mean you didn't have a choice sending it yeah you just you na yeah exactly you could SL down but uh I they miked us did they mic you up CU they miked me up but I said nothing the whole run yeah why would you you couldn't because the thing is I was so focused I think it's because we went so quick because there's a Red Bull posted a video on their Tik Tok page where because they miked up chip and freezy and um it's off chip speaking to freezy and he's like on the brakes off the brakes okay we're going to go around this now and I think it's CU they were using the brakes and communicating about the brakes that they had stuff to say but because we were just you told me before you weren't going to touch the brake so I thought okay he's really not there's no point saying anything and you know whether it's a Brak or not so I was just thinking I'm just going to drive I was literally only thinking like I'm only going to slow us down if I feel like at this speed we either can't hit that jump properly or can't go around the corner and I was just tickling it and it was only at the end like I was like I've got to wait until we cross the finish line before I can break and I just Ram it and because it was a friction break it's like literally a metal bar that just pulls down onto both of the rear wheels it just starts smelling like burning rubber actually nailed that was so good though cuz we literally landed after that last jump we landed and I was like [ __ ] the Finish is right there and all I could hear was I just knew he pulled that thing so hard we came around the corner and didn't touch a single thing because he broke just in time yeah and the thing was untouched like the they said they it could get sent back to one of us so I send it to my house um I got I didn't tell you this yet I got a DM from someone saying I'm just about to watch your soap box get destroyed what no it's been graveyard we took it to a graveyard but we put it to one side no they told us we could have it uh yeah oh the guy might be lying I I pray he is cuz that's so harsh but I saw it in the DM request I was like [ __ ] surely not we should M message Adam but I think a big part of the reason we couldn't speak or do much else is because we weren't so full s we did that in 36 seconds chip and freezy were the second fastest in our group I think and they were 44 seconds yeah so we were we were literally seven or eight seconds I mean I don't exactly know what their milliseconds were but we were seven or eight seconds faster than them and I mean the difference like you watch them go down and they're sort of doing a decent speed but I thought them being go- karters you know they've got their Senor frogs they race every year yeah I was like they're going to bomb it too yeah but they kind of just played it relatively safe I mean good time time but like I do think we we absolutely Center and we had this guy come up to us at the end like should you say yeah say and this guy comes up to us and go don't like freak out now or anything um but we're checking because we genuinely think this was one of the fastest of all time yeah like fastest soap boxes ever he thought we hit the world record run right there and then and they cuz they had to check them by the millisecond yeah and we were a fraction of a second off being the fastest ever 1 18 of a second something something ridiculous like that and uh so I think we were either the second or the third fastest of all time yeah there were rumors at the end of the day and I don't know whether it was Chip just winding us up being like the last car of the day was slightly faster yeah they they yeah they said something like the last car of the day actually broke the world record so if that is true we're the third fastest of all time if not we are the second fastest of all time to go down that track and we rather the second of the first fastest of this year's event which is just just the coolest thing ever like we to be fair have also like we couldn't have picked a design that was Better Built For Speed I mean it's so people were saying this is this is aerodynamic and I was thinking it is but I don't think it's going to make that much of a difference in this yeah scenario and whether it did or not or whether it was just the fact that you didn't break much yeah I think that was it it was quite heavy it was heavy as well you had one of the heavy ones so at the start you can tell this was one of the things we were saying we should have got two people cuz we only got Jake to shove us at the start yeah and when when you start off just going down the ramp it took us a while to pick up speed if we had sort of been shoved and started at a really good pace and kept it at that pace I genely think we could have built the record but I'm I want to do it again same that's why I wanted to keep that cuz we could have just modified that and send it down we know that's a winning formula yeah make it into a submarine or something yeah exactly that thing works but Red Bull like they they we had such a great time with them they did so much for us and we were so grateful and we were speaking see nothing guaranteed and stuff um but they were saying there's a potential for us to come back and maybe do the one that you know you launch off a ramp and you're like 10 m up whatever and you've got to Glide over water as far as possible there and there are loads of other sort of like cool Red Bull events and stuff to do so um yeah I think we make this a thing if we can do just more of this stuff yeah I loved it it was genuinely one of the best things I've ever done I think yeah and there's a the the the only annoying thing is there's so much footage it's going to take a while to get the video together because Red Bull have Clips we have clips they've sent us a hard driver clipse I've got stuff on my phone B has stuff on his phone Jake has stuff on his phone so we'll gather it all together but when the video comes out I think it'll be such a good one because so good the whole experience was just the coolest thing ever and we couldn't be more grateful to Red Bull for that the perfect run at the end we just ended it so perfectly the whole experience I think yeah it couldn't have gone better afterwards I so cool yeah I couldn't get the helmet off though we got to the very end I could not figure out how to unclip the helmet so I did the interview with a helmet on yeah they could not hear thing as well you hear me go oh the atmosphere was electric and I know he said the electric thing and then we um yeah we Kenny from South Park hanging out with us we to I finally I got someone to take my helmet off we drove the soap box down to the graveyard thing but they said they weren't going to break it we put it to one side it might be broken and then we had to run up the hill because we had to get on the live stream to do an interview straight afterwards yeah and oh my God you realize how far we came down Running Up That thing that it was 400 to 500 M back up a relatively Steep Hill on a very hot day we were exhausted from the day before and uh being out the night before and having the race and all that kind of stuff and in boiler suits and it was a hot day boiling I got so sweaty at the top we got to the top and we were like that was just a thoroughly unenjoyable experience but it was cool cuz there I heard I don't I think I told you at the time I heard a kid as we ran past he was like oh my God racers felt like an F1 driver in that moment yeah that really went straight to my head yeah I bet we felt a lot cooler than we probably looked just running around in boiler suits and I'm my Red Bull cap on we had shades on surprised he hasn't got that red bull cap on today by the way that thing you're going to have to peel that off his dead body I've been wearing it so much lady just cuz I I love it it's good for green screen stuff that is the one thing I I might start wearing cuts out the wispy hair yeah it cuts out the wispy hair which kind of ruin the illusion I've got that real issue whereas when you wear a cap it's like a smooth round thing and the green screen just looks much better I see my editors have all been like wear a cap as often as possible oh so they even so they tell you what to do huh you're not Char they do interesting well I keep my editors locked away and then I give them footage and they're like please I want to see my family please share an editor now no King yeah we do shout out king great honestly fantastic worker his work ethic he sent me a video and like couple hours later he was like actually here's a V2 I watched it back and I I could see some improvements I was like kind of mentality and he's not been editing for long either yeah so he's I think all selft talk cow's amazing as well they're both just great honestly yeah people listening a fascinated here about how much we love our tives yeah let's get back to the Red Bull so box race so then we did our interview at the very top which is when cuz we went down first so we were Then followed by all the other creators who did the race um we didn't really get to see them at the time cuz we were running up the the bloody Hill but um we got to the top they all slowly joined us did their interview and then it got revealed the scores so there were different categories we were like ranked on or scored on the first being performance and I I'm pretty sure the style of the cart comes into that as well yeah and so we what did we get like what was it 20 22 it was really bad 40 terrible score we got like a seven a six a three and a five something like that whoever gave us a three what's wrong with you huh they were grumpy though cuz I think chip and frezy got something like 39 and the guy that person gave them a nine apparently they were really mean scoring the whole time that's crazy but chip and fzy knew about the performance thing which we I know how they knew about that we had no idea chip and freezy raced as a box of 20 chicken McNuggets yeah and they brought like homemade barbecue sauce and just on each other yeah pry just poured it all over them it was good like as performances go that's like the best thing you can do yeah so they got a really great score like almost perfect just one guy dropped a mark on it um 39 out 40 but I feel like I feel like giving us a three was really harsh I know our performance wasn't great but the music was very fitting yeah and maybe we should have pretended we were on the moon with our jumping or something like walking like that he just had such a cool carard we had so little time to think about it yeah I feel like it was harsh though look at our car that was really cool yeah maybe we were also ranked harshly because we were the first creators to go down maybe maybe we would have got a better score if we were towards the end I don't know yeah maybe but um yeah we did really bad on that and then you get obviously score for your speed in finishing the race yeah which we smashed Everyone by like four four seconds or something or seven or eight yeah like seven or eight seconds Quicks first to second and the second fastest and I think Becky and pieace got a dnf finish either they hit a minute or they stopped completely yeah cuz they went over one of the jumps and then front end broke so the wheel wasn't really like or the front was touching the floor dragging across the floor so they just I felt bad for them they just ped all across but at least they got down in one piece that's the they were just in a pint glass yeah it was really cool and they had a they had a cool performance Becky poured pint on um pie which was funny um con and Jack had a cool performance they just had some Swagger about it like yeah it was cool oh yeah we got picked on the performance but they did struggle getting into the vehicle did they yeah CU it's really hard and narrow to get in um they got they everyone got all the way to the end by the way Colin Jack fell over at the end there thing just went on its side they they chose thinner Wheels I didn't think they were going to make it that far yeah they also had a really high center of gravity cuz their car was thin and quite tall yeah like if you looked at their car it looked like it wanted to fall over it was a bit like chitty chitty bang bang but like elongated yeah so they did really well to and they were drifting it as well it was drifting so they did really well to get to the bottom um but yeah we were like seven seconds quicker than seven or eight seconds quicker than the second fastest which was it chip and freezy or was it Con I think it might have been no chip and frezy was Heavy wasn't it to be fair so that would move um and then there was People's Choice which we said we won 49% and was those were those those three so I think the reason so we ended up coming third we came third out of the four I just think it wasn't like cuz we won two out of three categories you'd think we'd win but I think they gave they were sort of like weighted yeah so because we were so low on the performance us being ahead on the other two bits didn't pull us up enough I think it's really harsh I think it doesn't matter at all by the way I don't I don't care but I do think it's harsh that performance is weighted so heavily in comparison to like speed has got to be the most important thing yeah like it's a race I know that's that's the way we were looking at it that's because it's a race come on we were focus on the race as aspect obviously soap boxes isn't Formula 1 is supposed to be like a bit of fun cretive stuff which you do get um but yeah hard winning two out of three categories and winning the race comfortably well it was more like at in the moment when they were revealing who won out of us four I was thinking in my head oh we've definitely won yeah after winning we got like 50% of the votes for People's Choice so it was a landslide Victory they said and a landslide Victory on the speed so I was thinking we have smashed those two things so surely we've gained loads of points for that yeah and we came third I was like I'm actually quite shocked by that I in my head I was thinking oh my God we've won yeah but um no it was so means anything like there's I don't there's nothing for it yeah I was just surprised but genuinely so it was so good yeah it was it was definitely definitely one of the best things I've ever done I was so glad that we did it I can't wait for the proper video to come out and have it all like a documentary s of documented archive just being like Oh I can look back at that video that was a banger yeah oh it was it was really good um then we stuck around and watched some public racing um and yeah there was it was it was nice there was a nice like area where you could get food and stuff and the worms showed up oh yeah lots of the patreon supporters a couple of N and non patreon people showed up lots of podcast people I'm guessing everyone there was podcast listeners because I didn't really put it on any platform no I think it it was all podcast we spoken about on the on on the podcast and in the patreon group chat quite a lot yeah and that was pretty much it so thank you well regardless if it's yeah thank you guys for coming along cuz it was so nice speaking to everyone great really great to have your support um yeah and yeah you guys were there for most of the day just like stood by our um what do you call it Soap Box stood by our Soap Box we were coming over when we could to say hi and stuff yeah everyone got photos we oh my goodness quite a lot of people wanted us to draw tattoos for them oh dear and we are not artistic no we're close yeah I'm a letter away but I not draw sa in my life and I was like the only thing I could think of was the rocket emoji yeah that was pretty good to be fair I was trying to draw them but getting the three little things at the bottom and the fire I was like I was like show this to your artist and they'll get what I'm trying to draw yeah they'll understand I mean I just ended up drawing flowers CU it's the easiest thing to draw it's got nothing to do with me a lot of art what just happened you just got bored of your own conversation I just yawned I was hoping you take it off me really quickly cuz I yawned no someone asked for a cameo once where they were like can you draw something for us to do a tattoo and I did a a ringed planet oh nice and oh my goodness trying to get cuz obviously if you put the circle there first the ring that goes in front like cuts through lines and it looks crap so you've kind of got to start with the ring but obviously just as the ring curves back around you have to stop and then you have to imagine where the sphere is going to be and oh my goodness I burnt through about half this notebook trying to get one that just looks semi-reasonable so whoever invented Saturn fair enough yeah exactly that must have been difficult and Uranus yep that's also ringed yeah um many too many rings yeah I've got a ring do you oh yeah and that weekend batch proposed to me so I said yes no I'm talking about my ass what anyway um it was it was a different kind of proposition to the one you were thinking of yours is way cuter than mine and I said no oh hell no I just got that that's disgusting cuz I was like on Saturday night we were just chilling we were like go we're exhausted yeah and I was like do you want to just stay around and Bach was like yeah so we played fornite and watch scary movies yeah he took me to get sushi again yeah we went to sticks and Sushi again but I was like I kind of want to make more videos but we were just so tired yeah I it was too late you just what you made me watch horror stuff we we watched a bunch of scary videos on YouTube like real ghost sightings and short horror movies and I was like I've wanted to do videos like that with you ages I was like then was the perfect time but our energy was just shock yeah we'll do it we'll definitely do it another time though CU people just love that love that horror game yeah is entertaining to watch other people get scared people don't want to watch you have fun they want to watch you cringe and be scared people enjoyed us having fun of Minecraft true but you were scared of I died like five six times I'm not very good clearly everyone's making fun of me did I die once I didn't I don't think no but your spirit died at one point hell no my spirit my spirit was always my spirit were through the roof um when I was getting attacked by Leona Lewis and I was hiding in the house turns out Leona Lewis can't go in water so I should have just gone in water I saw that comment yeah thanks for that thanks for the comment I'm actually going to use that logic and I I already want to film episode three right now do you yeah it was so fun we'll do it this week actually it's so fun like I enjoy playing it we're just loading up M fil although he needs a he needs a setup can we can we tell this boy to put some money towards a proper setup he plays on his PlayStation so we have to play Bedrock Edition so I can't use my nice shaders that make the waters and everything look clean and all the like graphics and stuff you know the like it's T's water we're keeping it the graphics upgrades are insane look just just a bit enjoy a humble bit of like Minecraft where it's nostalgic not everything has to be polished yeah okay fine um but no it was it was really good fun and it is it is I do love that we can just do that kind of stuff and just play a game and it would be fun yeah um we can just like high five when we want yeah anyway um back to let's go back in time to um the end of the race he wet himself no he didn't he didn't no he didn't but um I just want to make sure that we covered everything no because we didn't speak about um the stunt the stunts oh yeah you should tell them about the stunt they they just flung on you they didn't tell you until yeah they didn't tell me about this before and they made me sign my rights away yeah and it it was they had already Ked off the live stream so you just had to do it yeah um we basically batch got nice one he got pulled aside and they were like oh is the driver we're testing your reflexes yeah and what did they do they so she dropped a ruler and you just had to grab the ruler um as soon as she dropped it and just see how many centimeters you let drop to judge your reaction time I didn't do I think I came second actually nice but on the practice I failed uh so I was like oh that was nice and peaceful and fun I wonder what mine's going to be and they get me and they they I put this heart monitor on and I was like what they put this heart monitor on me put me in the middle of this cage and this dude called like Douglas or something comes up in this massive dirt bike and just goes like I'll lie down in the middle and I was like I know exactly where this is going got R to me and Jack just start planking and he's sort of in this giant he giant of a man I swear he's like 6'4 in this massive dirt bike and he's sort of there like on one wheel bouncing the like wheel like an inch from my head and I'm like if he just if anything misjudges he crushes my skull yeah like we we we lose one of the Bright Young talents of this generation and you as well wait what do you mean well they'd get Jack and you oh yeah yeah good old Jack and then then he was doing like wheelies around your head like just driving past full speed past his head yeah it was giving me the E actually see lie down there insane and I was just like well I'm playing it cool cuz that's like the name of the game it'd be cringe if I got up and I mean they they even said that if you get up you're at risk of just getting your head whacked cuz he's like an inch within your head so if you move it until you die yeah um and for like a minute he just did this and bounced around and yeah you were down there for a hot minute yeah we were there for ages just getting driven around I thought oh this is just getting this is just cruel now yeah I mean the poor boy is just lying there with a boner by the way uh because he gets that happens when he gets scared just why you think I keep getting you for horror games oh no i h on a Bo so he's just doing circling circling circling around Arthur on the floor it just I just felt a bit sorry for him in the end yeah uh so that was terrifying but good F night you know I'm up for anything I did realized the other day I'm just one of his friends who's just up for thing yeah you are actually someone could be like hey we're going to sit inside and watch movies tonight I be like fine or they can be like come on man we're robbing a bank I'm like cool they'll be like come on going glamping for the weekend do you is that real though if I said or okay let's go and watch the Euros tonight fine let's do it England England this is the last night of the group stage and all of a sudden the mood is really dead because we're just through now we've not played well either it's been pathetic there I said it and Harry Kane when you finally come on this podcast I've got some strong words to have with you mine mine Reserve is Gareth Southgate and not bringing BR and not playing kobby Mayu okay sorry Harry Kane actually way he's playing phenomenally to be not as if we're missing him but I'm mad at you Southgate yeah Italy um not playing too bad oh my goodness you're Italian did you watch the game last night and they scored the 90th plus eight to go through 98th minute it was the draw against Croatia oh that was heartbreaking poor the thing is they probably would have gone through anyway as one of the people third but um it's nice to confirm it you know yeah those moments of elation just so hard I think Italy just like a decent Striker anyway we won't bore you with football because a lot of people probably don't care about football yeah um but yeah I mean I'm getting into F1 now yes you are you watch drive to survive right yeah I've been watching drive to surv I need to get on that I really want to watch that um and hence why the Red Bull so box race I was really in I was really in my element Because You Loved does it make you love Red Bull as well the driver to survive does it follow a particular team it follows the mall and to be honest I haven't really got like a team I really um it's not like I really want to see this team win it's more people that you care about it's good to see Red Bull doing well but um I like Lando do you yeah you're Lando Norris enjoyer I'm a Lando enjoyer I like them all to be fair from what I've seen I like I get I like Char all oh cuz he kind he kind of looks like Charles mclair uh yeah I get uh Lando Norris a lot people always say like L nor I'm not sure about that boy and uh obviously like V stappen red the Red Bull goat what batch V stappen high five what does that even mean batch for steppen me batch for steppen batch for steppen me instead of Max for Sten batch for Sten it's one of the only times that batch really goes into anything batch for Sten what do people nickname you at school get tuna boy cuz I've brought in tuna fish boy uh right I was going duckling I was going for more names like name related like okay because I was oh name related I was I was called nothing I was just called Arthur I don't know why I said it like that I was called Nothing me yeah had no friends at school no I didn't really people would say ice as a joke ice yeah I just I didn't like not having a cool nickname name my sister one of my sisters calls me Izzy that's really cringe and feminine yo she watches these which is fine yo she watches these apologize down the lens right now I apologize nothing cuz it is it was true it was my truly held opinion and you should never apologize for being yourself sometimes she calls me Elizabeth as well what and I don't really know where she got that from she started that was a good what what yeah she watches it where she works as she was working she'll have it on Gizzy by the way I didn't get cancelled for what Sunday came out where I waterboarded Chris I haven't watched that and I was seriously worried I was genuinely like I thought you know just some people on the internet can be real yeah cuz they might be like oh you're making fun of water boarding people actually die from water boarding that's not what I exactly what I meant oh because okay you can't waterboard Chris because he doesn't like water and some people have been drowned before no okay of course because because you shouldn't do water boarding because it's like saying this is something you should it's really on impressionable fans and they'll be like okay I'm going to water board my mom tonight right maybe maybe that was like oh you shouldn't do that on to an impression I'm going to cancel you right now in that case um but no I I I just thought people would be like oh that was so mean of him they're not friends like just you know when you don't really know I mean obviously anyone who's seen Chris and videos knows how much abuse he puts me through I mean that guy abuse shs down on my neck like there's no tomorrow he's just I I'll just be chilling mid shootting he'll just go on my traps I mean granted they're juicy like they're nice muscular defined um have you ever thought you might just be a vampire I don't know hiding in plain sight you know you've got two Pierce marks right there you getting sucked by you've got really garlicky breath so I don't think I could be a a vampire cuz otherwise let's not start rumors like that otherwise I'd run there's not start rumors like that yeah my breath smells like daisies rainbows fairy tales I'm always chewing gum you are always chewing gum you're a real gum chewer yeah it Bo it boosts your confidence it's like putting a pair of sunglasses on I'm glad you don't do it on the podcast that would be the most annoying thing to listen to I have done it before but I just tuck it into my teeth like snz you don't mean that it's gum you don't mean that it's gum it's just weird you don't mean that it's gum gum started freaking out you know we were speaking about eggs the other day when you you're Midway through eating heads and you're like wait up yeah that's a period something ain't right that's a menstrual cycle raor and you're like yeah well that weirdly makes me like it more it's more than I knew you were a feminist me too come on yeah um we do like to bring awareness to the fact that women exist and have Cycles cuz I I I mentioned menstrual cycles all the time and I in one of my YouTube videos I was like I've got to stop saying menstrual cycles drop a comment if you think I should stop saying menual cycle everyone's like no and someone's like no it actually feels kind of feminist in a weird way cuz you're bringing light to the fact of cuz not everyone knows that women have I think everyone knows women have periods I found out 3 days ago watching your video you thought they had penis what I just thought they merely existed they merely exist in a in a realm Between Heaven and Hell where somewhere I love doesn't exist what the hell is this guy talking about women only exist in heaven women are heaven on Earth in my opinion how does that song Go heaven heaven for what it's worth women are heaven on Earth women are heaven on Earth brother in Christ you don't know what you're talking about right now I feel like we're getting on to Serious brain rot have you got anything else this is a rare batch prepared actually been praying preparing a lot um all of the episodes lately we've actually yeah hence why the quality's increased um no you just you do stuff in a different way I like like reading and talking reading well next episode's prepared by by Arthur and we'll be filming this directly after this one yeah we're doing complet transparency cuz batch is way on holiday and I'm going to be honest because I'm not I've not brought a spare pair of clothes anyway yeah me neither I don't want to hear no comments like why is he wearing that shirt again well they should be comenting CU alth this on an episode before quite frankly Arthur is either can I just say by the way I predicted what you were going to be wearing on the Red Bull meal I said Arthur will turn up in Black corduroy shorts um and a cream beige top shirt either worn as an overshirt with a white t-shirt underneath or just a shirt that's exactly what you were that's true I mean I have two other pairs of shorts I had a black like pair that were like had textured but the waistband thing snapped hard to find a good pair of shorts and then I had a nice like cream beige pair yeah um but they were just like I don't know linen and just ended up being a bit too and take it from a guy a sleepover with him he doesn't take them off he showers in them he goes me to take them off he was like take them off take them off take them off and I was like leave me alone yeah I was like please wash please wash you were just misreading me I wasn't saying take them off I was like please wash please wash anyway I I got the um I went into the patreon chat o uh little plug if you want to join the patreon go ahead there's a chat you get early access to episodes they get uploaded all the time and Bullies me in it yeah I do speak in there a fair amount um and I said to them we're filming two pods today can you guys reply to this message with any questions you have about the Red Bull Soapbox race we're going to be doing a whole episode on it uh because I thought there might be you know they might want to know more information on how it was built or how we were feeling and stuff and we could just give us some insight to that we've just explained the day how cool it was blah blah blah but they want to know the BTS let's see how insightful their questions can be okay did you hurt your nose that's [ __ ] rude no I didn't that obviously pointed at you no I didn't to be fair I did we had said in an episode prior that there was no foam and we are going to smash our faces in they put foam in we had good helmets on but we didn't actually crash so yeah we didn't crash so although his coxic bone is in pain yeah my coxics I'm absolutely fine because I'm not weak that's your tailbone um may ask for us highly evolved Apes that was from Brooke by the way I'll say names shout outs May says how SL why did you decide to build a rocket why I guess cuz it's very on brand for us have a look at our mugs yep yeah I mean we're just we're were're a Spacey themed podcast for no apparent reason we genely I'm sure we said in the earlier episodes we had no plans to be themed and bats just randomly one day went let's just make it space themed I just think it's cool yeah me I just think we both think it's cool we do we just need a cool set I think most of the things we do is because we think oh that's cool like the Soap Box we thought oh it'd be cool if we did a a ship or a ufi yeah just cuz it just cuz it's funny someone actually messaged in for the next one I've got like the submissions from the normal submissions page which everyone can enter just go to our any of our socials at Bach and arur and in the link there's like a a link tree and one of them is the submissions form and they were like what is your target audience because I can't really figure it out and I'm studying media at the moment target audience is such a big thing and I was like we don't have one we just come on talk about whatever we find interesting yeah and just hope that some people agree yeah and the people who do listen are actually very um diverse yeah and intelligent and cool and good looking and all this yeah um so yeah no um yeah and it's weird because we're not sitting there going oh let's talk about this to appeal to this audience which I think is I mean somehow it works so thank you guys for tuning into thanks cuz I think if you analyzed it in like a media class and it was like oh one minute you're doing brain rot meme references and the next you're talking about s men and then the next we're talking about Greek philosophy and the next one like Roman Parables and then religion they'd be like well someone's going to listen to the one episode like it and then not like the rest yeah but for some reason people just like listening to it all really I think we just decided that we're just going to do what we want like yeah whatever we enjoy yeah like whatever we enjoy and whatever we F feel like talking about we're just going to do it because if you want to enjoy something you've like if you want this if we want this podcast to continue we've got to enjoy it and if we're looking at it tactically like Oh Let's do an episode on this so we can boost our audience in this demographic it will start to feel like a like a real job well like you know I've heard from other people that do podcasts that their producers will be like today you're having this guest on and they're like well I've never watched the show they're on or Never follow them don't care about the story but I've got to do it's nice that we kind of have a just able to just go oh whatever and I do think the stuff we talk about is interesting broadly like if you're someone who like whenever we meet or speak to anyone who watches the podcast they're always like oh I love like these types of interesting discussions I feel like if you have a generally curious mind yeah like if if people who are listening to this and enjoy it are going to be similar to us in that respect and they you know even if they don't have a an interest in any of the particular like they might be like oh I love hearing about religion I'm a curious person but they don't care about Greek philosophy yeah or anything when we speak about the ship of thesis they're still like oh it's an interesting thought like it's an interesting thought so if you're one of those types of people like us then all that kind of stuff is interesting I guess thus our our demographic is people who just have similar interests to us yeah or like have a similar outlook on life or yeah that's the thing it's not even like it's just it's the broad value of curiosity I think who just like they like to laugh they like a bit of Comedy cuz we even get people who disagree with us and they're like oh I'm religious I completely disagree with this all but it was so interesting to listen to and so they're not listening because we're speaking about things that they find um they agree with or they enjoy you know but they're going like oh like I like the way these topics are approached or the way this is discussed and yeah so yeah hopefully we'll try and keep that up um hey no way we're going to brain Rock 24/7 after here or no anyway um Connie asked what was your top speed we don't actually know but what did you think it was 30 well when we passed we passed the speed gate at what will be one of the fastest points and that was 30 okay mil K yeah km pH um Leia says do you think you were going to make it to the Finish Line did you think you were going to make it to the Finish Line I genuinely um did not think we were going to make it past the chicane to be honest yeah cuz I didn't realize the course was as wide as it was however the as narrow as it was you mean actually yeah yes and no the thing is it's like driving a car when you're in a car it looks like you're you're bigger than the road but actually you can fit in much smaller of a gap than you expect yourself to be able to and so when you're actually in the soap box when we were doing the chicane in my head I thought we're going to catch one of the hay bals and go flying but actually although it was actually pretty close watching it back it felt like I had enough room to get round and stuff well two hay bals we did fully slic through well yeah if the wings were like flat fronted we would have we could have just spun out flown but because the wings were just like yeah we the first one and then the second one we through that yeah um but in no I didn't think we were going to make it down in one piece to be honest I thought either we'd get to the end and there' be damage or we'd fall over at the end or we just wouldn't make it to the end cuz it's not a like it more often than not you don't make it to the end yeah so I thought statistically I didn't I didn't think we were going to make it to the end so I was surprised were you or not it's so funny because at the start you're like I really don't know but be when you're going down it's so fast and you've got to think a lot like yeah I was just constantly thinking like just monitoring whether we were going too fast or not to be like bring the speed down ever so slightly and it's everything's happening so fast you don't have time to think oh are we going to make it like any hypotheticals it's just uh pull the break break on break off break off oh my goodness are we going to make this corner are we going to too fast at how are we doing like all this kind of stuff's rushing through your head I didn't even think about it I was no so yeah I had no thoughts in my head either I think we were just on reflex at that point yeah because every yeah like Arthur said everything's coming at you so quick like before the chane I thought I had enough time to put my hand up and wave and I was like [ __ ] no I don't yeah so that's when I came back onto the wheel and did that so we really don't have much time in that thing um then Phoenix asks what was the hardest and easiest part of the creative process oh hard po was coming up with an idea for what we wanted to do as the car because we took ages like they were asking us for the design for so long and we were like we really don't know it is hard when you can do literally anything it's like the classic situation where you've got too much Choice yeah so you can't make a decision and neither necessarily creative creative types yeah so we and also it's it's difficult as well when there's two people because obviously if one person wants to do something we we agreed yeah we we didn't have any friction on what we wanted to do we because we both didn't really have an idea but you've got to make sure that what one person comes up with the other person's happy to do um but I think from the go we just suggested either a space shuttle or UFO we were both happy with those two ideas and then we had a look at some pictures and we thought okay let's go for a space sh that was it yeah so I think that um it was hard in the beginning but to to be honest the decision process was pretty easy for us in the end I do think the hardest part although that was hard I think what was harder for us was probably um building the chassis don't you think it was harder than the woodwork yeah that's probably true cuz we didn't have any engineer assistance with the underly car yeah the actual chassis itself we just had bits like we didn't have instructions for half of it we were in in a big Warehouse with just a bunch of nuts bolts rods	Red Bull Soapbox race we're going to be doing a whole episode on it uh because I thought there might be you know they might want to know more information on how it was built or how we were feeling and stuff and we could just give us some insight to that we've just explained the day how cool it was blah blah blah but they want to know the BTS let's see how insightful their questions can be okay did you hurt your nose that's [ __ ] rude no I didn't that obviously pointed at you no I didn't to be fair I did we had said in an episode prior that there was no foam and we are going to smash our faces in they put foam in we had good helmets on but we didn't actually crash so yeah we didn't crash so although his coxic bone is in pain yeah my coxics I'm absolutely fine because I'm not weak that's your tailbone um may ask for us highly evolved Apes that was from Brooke by the way I'll say names shout outs May says how SL why did you decide to build a rocket why I guess cuz it's very on brand for us have a look at our mugs yep yeah I mean we're just we're were're a Spacey themed podcast for no apparent reason we genely I'm sure we said in the earlier episodes we had no plans to be themed and bats	8	6	4	Red Bull Soapbox race we're going to be doing a whole episode on it uh because I thought there might be you know they might want to know more information on how it was built or how we were feeling and stuff and we could just give us some insight to that we've just explained the day how cool it was blah blah blah but they want to know the BTS let's see how insightful their questions can be	did you hurt your nose?	6,2,8	-5,2,-3	6	2	8	-5	2	-3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0g_xJvKEb8	4,108	-0g_xJvKEb8	2024-06-27 00:00:00	[Music] what's up everybody welcome back to episode 14 of the batch and Arthur podcast yay go thanks for joining everyone we have something to reveal yes we do I know you guys don't like it when Arthur has his mug on the couch because he tends to drop things don't you never dropped anything actually okay you dropped that th done remember that well you might have noticed I also have my mug on the sofa mhm wondering why who wants to know why should we tell them something to do with one like equals one Lara maybe something to do with that exactly you guys ready see what you reveal go way for audio listeners we have white mugs with our little cartoon characters on them that's right little will I didn't want to Cheers you and I've got my little handsome space guy come on yeah Lara surprised us with these this is a gift um mine shatterproof as well apparently oh it's not sh yeah he's got a plastic mug because we know what he's like I've sippy C the audio listeners actually little rubber cppy cup with two handles well actually when Arthur drinks from a mug show them how you do it I'll I'll commentate for this he uses two hands so he grabs on the like handle and then he grabs the other hand I drink everything with two hands especially tea and Pints yeah I don't really know what is there a reason for that or not safety I guess twice as balanced is that really if one arm stops working the other one's there as a fail safe well there you go that's why he does it guys so it makes sense all after all yeah um speaking of batch and Arthur this podcast design right here yeah this has been plasted on something recently what our rocket ship oh yeah guys we just got back from the Red Bull Soap Box race and we're alive 2024 we genuinely were not sure we were going to survive no I was but we did really scared we we turned up we got to see other people's cards um and there was basically two things going on so there's like a public race and then the Creator race was like a separate thing which is streamed on YouTube If you go on Red Bull's um YouTube channel and you go on under the live tab you can actually watch the full thing yeah we were like a half time race yeah it was Bas half time show yeah there was a few people who weren't happy about the Creator's uh racing cuz they thought we were mixed in with the public but it's like a whole separate thing like we can't win any awards over the public or anything like that yeah um but but we won the hearts of the public come on yeah we did win the hearts of the public there was a a couple of things that you were like rated on as creators and one of them was People's Choice and we got a landslide victory of 44% yeah it actually ended up on 49% 50% out of four teams we got 49 everyone rounds 49 thank you to everyone who voted for us we one of four teams but we're up against chip and freezy who have a big loving audience Becky and pieace who audience and then con from the siden huge loving audience and the guy who's our cameraman on the train video the siden that's right Jack was there as well went to with con they had cool out but uh we we got to Ali p uh that's my first time there you've been there before actually I think we should start the day before okay let's let's reel that [ __ ] back because we had another sleepover kind of yeah we did have another let's just say oh no we didn't really a hotel yeah we did not have a sleepover but what did we do where did we first meet we we met at the we met at the hotel at the hotel dropped our bags off Adam was there he's the Red Bull guy that was been looking after us and he took all the creators out to dinner yeah we to find the tell first yeah chopped a pint um both hands come on yeah then we got in a taxi we went to dinner we had a create a dinner um what did you eat pizza yeah I had a really really hot hot pizza but the thing I was enjoying the most was the football we had a massive screen in front of us oh yeah cuz France were playing Netherlands NE scen I felt kind of harsh cuz the the table was positioned in a way that only half of us could see the football and the other half were just watching us watching football yeah but no he they were watching a react video basically they got to see us live reacting In the Flesh um but the meal was really good the food was really good uh Jake was struggling Jake the guy works with um Arthur they both got the same Pizza he was struggling with the heat yeah he was [ __ ] [ __ ] struggling with the Pint as well got two pints steep was steaming no cuz he was so in denial Jake yeah Jake had a couple pints and he was gone we were like you are drunk he like I am not drunk and he was getting angry mad I'm not even drunk he's I haven't even done anything later he's doing karaoke so that's belting out karaoke with his phone to the to the mic with with voice note on my God it's so that was you singing those Tunes to someone yeah we yeah CU you've been to a place before should we say the name of the place or not I actually I don't remember it anyway okay we went to this place anyway Arthur's been there before it's um like a karaoke bar with uh like an arcade and bowling and there's a dance floor and like a bar and stuff like that yeah very good fun we all went there did some karaoke went there for Arthur Hill's birthday that's how I found out about it what a place it is a cool place actually um yeah did a bit of karaoke we were in there for a couple hours doing karaoke in the end yeah um belting at tunes by the way batch can sing No Arthur can sing yeah but I think people would assume that from but that goes without saying no but but Frank Sinatra came on and oh my goodness batch was just cooking that thing anyone can sing Frank arra welcome back Frank Sinatra he died and this is him reborn wasn't wasn't he heavily involved with the mafia Frank Sinatra so are you you're a quter Italian that's true but I can't admit that no not legally anyway oops they're going to come and get me try and come and get me watch me beat beat you all up actually I shouldn't say what if they do don't come and get me please I was just kidding I've got nothing to do with him he lives on 32 Italian back street oh my god that actually is my house number H what don't say that it's not that's my apartment number as well no we you're not finding out where we live um I'm going to move in with Arthur anyway we moved in together on Minecraft yeah sort of anyway back to karaoke we had fun at karaoke then we went home we didn't get back till 3:00 a.m. silly move because we had to be up early yeah we had it well not that early we had 10: a.m. taxi picks up yeah but we met at breakfast at 9:30 it was the most romantic breakfast of my life yeah um and then stayed at the Hilton Red Bull of class they put us in there they also like what a lovely experience not only did they take us to dinner they they paid for karaoke and everything like that they covered everything shout out to Red Ball I'm going to crack One open right now and they're actually delicious all these colored red balls my actual favorite is the summer edition you guys should actually try this this is not sponsored but I'm just saying this is not even the first thing I I did I went to salburg in Austria and did some Red Bull salburg video shooting with Chris MD um we did like penal sh outs in games with mads bistrup for their YouTube channel and then did a video in it was the the final one of christed uh every time you beat a Defender the defender gets upgraded that's right yeah and we start off with like Harry R Shaw as the worst Defender when all the way up to Champions League mads bistr who fantastic player I mean yeah you realize how like when you watch t uh football on TV you think oh I could do that yeah but then if you see a actual Pro in real life yeah like that makes sense why you went pro now actually we need to do more charity so that was fun that was fun there are a lot going on it's just timings cuz there's so many things going on during summer and that's usually when charity matches go down yeah but you got to work in the schedules either you're away or I'm away or there's a brand trip or something has to be submitted in time was crazy yeah but um no I'm sure we're going to do a lot more stuff with Red Bull as well so that's exciting um but anyway we then got the taxi to Alex Alexandra Palace Ali pal come on and um I've only just realized that's why it's Ali P really yeah I just thought that Ali P was the hill and Alexandre Palace was no way Ali now I've just heard it okay that's Ali P right anyway U you almost did a off the TV intro that right right so then we uh we got into the race so no we got into the Zone where the race was going on yeah and we got to have a little scout out all the public submitted soap boxes some really cool stuff in there yeah although there was one weird one because we rock up and there are like four girls gathered around water is essentially a double bed one girl just tucked up and you back like oh this is cool and she was like yeah it's really cozy get in we were like no I I ain't doing all that I'm sure though that you know that wasn't actually her like lying in it yeah I know you could tell something was weird under the covers but I was not getting involved what what what the hell um oh you can't see my soundboard I've got to pull this back so I can soundboard here yeah he hasn't got a soundboard yet thank goodness although I should no they all see the comments by the way Lara and Arthur see the comments and Lara even said into the group chat she was like I think we need to get bat of soundboard because of all the comments she sent me a message being like listen we've got one purchase a year we can authorize either we get cool mugs or batch gets a soundboard and I was like mugs mugs oh hell no I just think it's so much funnier when you do it yourself and go to I do think so but this is going to get worn down and eventually there's going to be a Hole uh oh audio listeners don't know what I'm doing I I just I pretend there's a soundboard and I just push the sof and make my I do it as well I do it in real life I'll be speaking to people when I'm BR but it doesn't make his much sense in real life just in a conversation he's just air poking stuff as he goes brh you know what's so funny as well I showed batch this someone one of you guys one of our listeners because cuz I you do it quite a lot but I do it all the time at you do the what yeah what that thing someone did a Tik Tok called whatting people in public so she goes into this petrol station goes to pay she goes like how much is that and he goes like Oh 1350 and she just goes what loud so loud just yells it in this man's face and everyone was like bad bad you guys have to recreate this it was so funny yeah and then Arthur was like we've got to do this we've got I don't know if I have the like what is it um social confidence to do that I'd be able to do it not yell it I thought it was a bit rude though the loud yelling not in a bad I'm not criticizing you I just able to do that like that myself I'd be like what I think sorry you got no no soup of the day what what when you have a camera on you though that you get a new found confidence in public like I found no no no in general I don't know if you agree with this in like a sidan video I Feel Like rules don't apply like social rules then don't apply cuz you've got a camer on you and you can do what you want whatever you want yeah I've only recently started being able to finally find it within myself to Vlog like when we were at wagas I was like this is actually fine yeah whereas before IID look at people vlogging in public and I go I admire you a lot cuz I can never do that it helps having people around you yeah although I feel like we do it with our phones it's a bit easier that's true whereas if people with their cameras out like facing their way I'm like oh my goodness I'd be so embarrassed yeah I think I would be as well especially if you got like a big rig on the end of that thing people are just admiring you your rig yeah both of them come on anyway um what speaking of the soap boxes that we saw um there was this one there was like these four guys like lying down chilling and they had this like Dome oh yeah which was kind of like a I guess like a spa you know the space shuttles that come down to earth it kind of looked a bit like that didn't yeah um like a landing module yeah like a landing module and they what did what did they make it off fiberglass or something yeah oh my God you could smell it from where we were still and they were like stick your head in that so we stuck it you stuck your head in first took a whiff and I did it afterwards oh my God dizzying genuinely dizzying I'm high I'm still high from that moment if anyone's ever been in like a a surfboard shop where they like make the surfboards yeah it smells like that it just smell exactly like that and they bizarre I just burped on I thought that was what that was that was disgusting hopefully that didn't get picked up apologize sorry guys sorry if you heard that cut that out anyway um it's not getting cut uh it they had to spend the whole run down in that thing so I think those guys are a little bit waved yeah I'm glad we I'm glad we were just a team of two and had two seats because I kind of felt bad some people that pushed the Soap Box thing down yeah like running after it for like 50 meters and it was a hot day that's true like um most people was like a team of four and two would push two would be in it I think that's standard isn't it to have two people in the so box and then a team that will push and Chase it down probably chase down chip and freezies yeah funny it was funny as well the way he was running because I guess it was like a it was like Looney Tunes the way he had his arms up like that chasing them down to be fair there are people I felt more bad for he talking about some of the injuries of the day oh my God and this is the thing like good gosh man we were already nervous then we were then we got to S see our um vehicle which they had made some mods to by the way so put me at ease a little bit they put foam in the place where my head would smash oh yeah so I felt about that yeah um they didn't they were going to cut out the wheel arches so we could turn more but they didn't I'm glad they I actually think that worked in our favor in it did um and they were actually slagging it off when it went up on towards stage they were speaking about it on Mike and they were like they can't turn properly they can't see over it and I was thinking oh no they're slagging off our thing they were talking about our buckets on the back and stuff I don't know if they were slagging off the buckets or just speaking about I just heard bucket like they're talking about ours oh my god um but it actually worked in favor and then there was screens up showing the first runs and it took a while it like an hour or two after we got there till the first run um but did you see the Sheep one no I didn't see any of the big ones but that's a bad one there was a sheep we I was watching a sheep go down um it was just before you did your stunt I think and it got all the way to the end and then at full speed flipped over onto their necks and I think it was one of them that broke their collarbone and it looked awful and after seeing that me and pieace was stood together we were like I we genuinely don't want to go down after seeing that he was [ __ ] it I was [ __ ] it um and then not only that I think other people must have like been bruised or whatever but the other big one that we heard about is we when we got to the start line we were there waiting for like 10 minutes and it was cuz the person who went down before us got knocked out so that's crazy yeah which I didn't see I don't think we'll ever see any footage of that but I don't know what vehicle it was or anything I just heard that they got knocked out that's why we were up there for ages yeah I mean it was going down insanely fast yeah it look I mean it looks quick on camera but it doesn't look nearly as quick as it feels yeah when you're in that thing oh my goodness and you can barely see in front of you you're bouncing all over the place you're hitting these jumps there are bits where there's foam that like splashes you in the face you have a few seconds of blindness yeah it's mental it it to best describe it definitely feels faster than sitting in a car at 60 MPH I'd say faster than it feels sitting in a car going 100 yeah cuz you're so exposed to we've never gone 100 I've been on the auto bar in Germany okay fair um but yeah you're exposed so it just feels so quick but we were quick insanely Qui insanely quick I think everyone we were the first of the creators to go up everyone thought we were going to just crash yeah or just be crap and slow there was so many comments so many DMs I got afterward was like [ __ ] fair enough before we even went down though before we get cuz we we will react we'll show you us going down yeah but I think we should tell them actually maybe should we hit play and then we'll pause at certain bits to be like explainer yeah I'll tell you what it plays it goes all the way through and then they do it in slow-mo afterwards we can on the slow-mo we'll do some explanation okay here we go batch and Arthur we had the podcast sticker oh it was such a good sticker on the side which was really cool and they zoomed in out loads for the YouTube video which is great yeah was all over the stream which was ideal although you cannot see podcast there until someone shads over it yeah someone's just shattering we were stood up there for ages genuinely yeah because someone had just been knocked out looking down this hill that was just so steep it's not funny but look at that thing that's so impressive it's so well built I can't believe it and I'm I'm gutted because I actually wanted to say to the we had a little bit of help from the Red Bull Engineers yeah I wanted to say thank you to them more just be like what did you see that that was really good yeah if anyone knows anything by any chance please pass on our thanks because yeah they they helped us hopefully they watched it and saw a great deal uh but we did do a lot I mean we did spend two full days building this thing and printing it up and stuff so yeah which you'll obviously see in the Vlog I'll talk about I'll talk about something later cuz there's um this was posted to Tik Tok and there's some funny comments on there really basically yeah basically calling us desk dwellers what so this is our performance so this performance we didn't know we no was supposed to do we we were told to choose a piece of music so we chose something like Space Odyssey style but we had no idea that meant we had to perform yeah and like like she's saying like there are points for performance and we knew about 10 minutes beforehand that this 30 second period of Music we'd have to Performance so we were like let's just do something simple gum shields in the mouth bow and get in and they were harsh they gave us a three but that also also counts to the way the vehicle looks so I think three is Harsh yeah but here we go performance score 22 poor but this is when we started racking up speed the steering was really weird as well cuz it changed as we got quicker and we were just bouncing as we went down like we'd hit a ramp and oh my goodness like almost front flipped that around we Whi around the corner and our our genuine one of our wings like clipped a ha Bell and just sliced through it that one sliced through the hay Bell I was thinking as we came down I swear I would have hit that side had I not hit that side and then nailed the braking and you said you could smell burnt rubber when you were breaking on that thing cuz I was like tickling the brakes like before a jump every now and then I do one all as we approached the chicane I pulled it yeah um but they said as we were going down in the commentary like yeah oh this feels fast usually you're hitting like low 20s here and it comes up on the side and we're hitting 30 km an hour yeah we were going and we were oh my goodness I'm glad you didn't break touch the break though we didn't need it yeah yeah I mean you did a did a little bit but I mean the others obviously touched it a lot more yeah I basically kept us at a speed where I was like this is very close to the line of like where we can make this corner at the speed because at the end of the day as a race and I was like we don't want to get up at the end and just be like oh like a couple of the soite boxes made it halfway down and just like stopped completely yeah and they were like having to like like I don't know like Shake It Forward it's so awkward like we did speak and we did say we'd actually rather crash going pretty quick than come to a grinding hle because it's just not good material yeah like we did it for Content wants to see that it's for a video we know representing creators at half time yeah so many people watching we've got a space shuttle that is designed at a velocity of 17,000 500 mph yeah so we were like you know hitting to be honest when they gave us those uh cuz we asked for special helmets that covered the face yeah when they gave me that I felt invincible and I thought oh [ __ ] it and we had gum Shields that we like ped poured into boiling water molded them before and molded them so we we felt pretty safe yeah I mean but still at 30 we weren but I don't have miles hour or kilm an hour I think it was mph I actually do really yeah but whatever it is at 30 like genuinely like just whacking your head against something solid is well I mean someone did get knocked out and broke it was terrifying yeah they they then do a slow-mo okay let's watch the slow-mo and we can break down exactly because I was thinking there was a point in the chicane when we really Whi round I was thinking why did that happen it was because the back right wheel wasn't on the ground when we were coming up to the chicane so when it touched the the ground it turned us into a corner so I was like [ __ ] and I had to spin it around one way and then back around the other way oh that's why we had that major wobble yeah and you can see it it's like it's cuz one of the wheels wasn't on the ground okay let's let's watch and like in the first one we'll try and go for the audio listeners kind of describe what we're seeing yeah so the first jump yeah we it was a heavy a heavy bit of Kit as well we definitely had one of the heavier ones it and it was like so we got through here the back that wheel wasn't on the ground so like had to correct it well the chicane of just having to go really quick left and then really quick right after yeah and then this pit we hit a bunch of stairs and bch basically grinds on the right hand of them it's cuz afterwards we had to be on the right hand side so I was thinking I can't turn directly after I'm going to have to turn on the ramp like the CL the the course is split in two with like steps on the left and straight on the right and we go down the steps but like half dangling off yeah you have a choice whether to do jumps or not obviously we were going to do the jumps cuz you get docked time um no they add time on if you go round cuz it's a bit unfair yeah but we you were just like let's head it yeah and after the first jump it it looks like we really jump around I don't know about you but in it it didn't feel that bad I I think I'm the exact opposite cuz I was going flying and my bum still Hur May was our positioning or cuz I was holding on to this when yeah I had nothing to hold on to I was just sat on a blue seat I re yeah I reckon that's what it was cuz it kept me like sort of planted you fix and you're in the center so with us like when when you go off the Jump the nose sort of goes down yeah it did and then the back col kicks up into the air and then slams down and because I'm at the back you really got you know I've got a lot further to fall and I just got whacked and my butt like when I sit on the sofa like no I can feel it bruised on I was actually un unscared I was absolutely fine yeah God it was um after that first jump though I got a lot more confidence in the run I was thinking oh that was fine I can we can do all the [ __ ] jumps yeah I just got full speed no I rate it I'm so glad you just sent it cuz and you I mean you didn't have a choice sending it yeah you just you na yeah exactly you could SL down but uh I they miked us did they mic you up CU they miked me up but I said nothing the whole run yeah why would you you couldn't because the thing is I was so focused I think it's because we went so quick because there's a Red Bull posted a video on their Tik Tok page where because they miked up chip and freezy and um it's off chip speaking to freezy and he's like on the brakes off the brakes okay we're going to go around this now and I think it's CU they were using the brakes and communicating about the brakes that they had stuff to say but because we were just you told me before you weren't going to touch the brake so I thought okay he's really not there's no point saying anything and you know whether it's a Brak or not so I was just thinking I'm just going to drive I was literally only thinking like I'm only going to slow us down if I feel like at this speed we either can't hit that jump properly or can't go around the corner and I was just tickling it and it was only at the end like I was like I've got to wait until we cross the finish line before I can break and I just Ram it and because it was a friction break it's like literally a metal bar that just pulls down onto both of the rear wheels it just starts smelling like burning rubber actually nailed that was so good though cuz we literally landed after that last jump we landed and I was like [ __ ] the Finish is right there and all I could hear was I just knew he pulled that thing so hard we came around the corner and didn't touch a single thing because he broke just in time yeah and the thing was untouched like the they said they it could get sent back to one of us so I send it to my house um I got I didn't tell you this yet I got a DM from someone saying I'm just about to watch your soap box get destroyed what no it's been graveyard we took it to a graveyard but we put it to one side no they told us we could have it uh yeah oh the guy might be lying I I pray he is cuz that's so harsh but I saw it in the DM request I was like [ __ ] surely not we should M message Adam but I think a big part of the reason we couldn't speak or do much else is because we weren't so full s we did that in 36 seconds chip and freezy were the second fastest in our group I think and they were 44 seconds yeah so we were we were literally seven or eight seconds I mean I don't exactly know what their milliseconds were but we were seven or eight seconds faster than them and I mean the difference like you watch them go down and they're sort of doing a decent speed but I thought them being go- karters you know they've got their Senor frogs they race every year yeah I was like they're going to bomb it too yeah but they kind of just played it relatively safe I mean good time time but like I do think we we absolutely Center and we had this guy come up to us at the end like should you say yeah say and this guy comes up to us and go don't like freak out now or anything um but we're checking because we genuinely think this was one of the fastest of all time yeah like fastest soap boxes ever he thought we hit the world record run right there and then and they cuz they had to check them by the millisecond yeah and we were a fraction of a second off being the fastest ever 1 18 of a second something something ridiculous like that and uh so I think we were either the second or the third fastest of all time yeah there were rumors at the end of the day and I don't know whether it was Chip just winding us up being like the last car of the day was slightly faster yeah they they yeah they said something like the last car of the day actually broke the world record so if that is true we're the third fastest of all time if not we are the second fastest of all time to go down that track and we rather the second of the first fastest of this year's event which is just just the coolest thing ever like we to be fair have also like we couldn't have picked a design that was Better Built For Speed I mean it's so people were saying this is this is aerodynamic and I was thinking it is but I don't think it's going to make that much of a difference in this yeah scenario and whether it did or not or whether it was just the fact that you didn't break much yeah I think that was it it was quite heavy it was heavy as well you had one of the heavy ones so at the start you can tell this was one of the things we were saying we should have got two people cuz we only got Jake to shove us at the start yeah and when when you start off just going down the ramp it took us a while to pick up speed if we had sort of been shoved and started at a really good pace and kept it at that pace I genely think we could have built the record but I'm I want to do it again same that's why I wanted to keep that cuz we could have just modified that and send it down we know that's a winning formula yeah make it into a submarine or something yeah exactly that thing works but Red Bull like they they we had such a great time with them they did so much for us and we were so grateful and we were speaking see nothing guaranteed and stuff um but they were saying there's a potential for us to come back and maybe do the one that you know you launch off a ramp and you're like 10 m up whatever and you've got to Glide over water as far as possible there and there are loads of other sort of like cool Red Bull events and stuff to do so um yeah I think we make this a thing if we can do just more of this stuff yeah I loved it it was genuinely one of the best things I've ever done I think yeah and there's a the the the only annoying thing is there's so much footage it's going to take a while to get the video together because Red Bull have Clips we have clips they've sent us a hard driver clipse I've got stuff on my phone B has stuff on his phone Jake has stuff on his phone so we'll gather it all together but when the video comes out I think it'll be such a good one because so good the whole experience was just the coolest thing ever and we couldn't be more grateful to Red Bull for that the perfect run at the end we just ended it so perfectly the whole experience I think yeah it couldn't have gone better afterwards I so cool yeah I couldn't get the helmet off though we got to the very end I could not figure out how to unclip the helmet so I did the interview with a helmet on yeah they could not hear thing as well you hear me go oh the atmosphere was electric and I know he said the electric thing and then we um yeah we Kenny from South Park hanging out with us we to I finally I got someone to take my helmet off we drove the soap box down to the graveyard thing but they said they weren't going to break it we put it to one side it might be broken and then we had to run up the hill because we had to get on the live stream to do an interview straight afterwards yeah and oh my God you realize how far we came down Running Up That thing that it was 400 to 500 M back up a relatively Steep Hill on a very hot day we were exhausted from the day before and uh being out the night before and having the race and all that kind of stuff and in boiler suits and it was a hot day boiling I got so sweaty at the top we got to the top and we were like that was just a thoroughly unenjoyable experience but it was cool cuz there I heard I don't I think I told you at the time I heard a kid as we ran past he was like oh my God racers felt like an F1 driver in that moment yeah that really went straight to my head yeah I bet we felt a lot cooler than we probably looked just running around in boiler suits and I'm my Red Bull cap on we had shades on surprised he hasn't got that red bull cap on today by the way that thing you're going to have to peel that off his dead body I've been wearing it so much lady just cuz I I love it it's good for green screen stuff that is the one thing I I might start wearing cuts out the wispy hair yeah it cuts out the wispy hair which kind of ruin the illusion I've got that real issue whereas when you wear a cap it's like a smooth round thing and the green screen just looks much better I see my editors have all been like wear a cap as often as possible oh so they even so they tell you what to do huh you're not Char they do interesting well I keep my editors locked away and then I give them footage and they're like please I want to see my family please share an editor now no King yeah we do shout out king great honestly fantastic worker his work ethic he sent me a video and like couple hours later he was like actually here's a V2 I watched it back and I I could see some improvements I was like kind of mentality and he's not been editing for long either yeah so he's I think all selft talk cow's amazing as well they're both just great honestly yeah people listening a fascinated here about how much we love our tives yeah let's get back to the Red Bull so box race so then we did our interview at the very top which is when cuz we went down first so we were Then followed by all the other creators who did the race um we didn't really get to see them at the time cuz we were running up the the bloody Hill but um we got to the top they all slowly joined us did their interview and then it got revealed the scores so there were different categories we were like ranked on or scored on the first being performance and I I'm pretty sure the style of the cart comes into that as well yeah and so we what did we get like what was it 20 22 it was really bad 40 terrible score we got like a seven a six a three and a five something like that whoever gave us a three what's wrong with you huh they were grumpy though cuz I think chip and frezy got something like 39 and the guy that person gave them a nine apparently they were really mean scoring the whole time that's crazy but chip and fzy knew about the performance thing which we I know how they knew about that we had no idea chip and freezy raced as a box of 20 chicken McNuggets yeah and they brought like homemade barbecue sauce and just on each other yeah pry just poured it all over them it was good like as performances go that's like the best thing you can do yeah so they got a really great score like almost perfect just one guy dropped a mark on it um 39 out 40 but I feel like I feel like giving us a three was really harsh I know our performance wasn't great but the music was very fitting yeah and maybe we should have pretended we were on the moon with our jumping or something like walking like that he just had such a cool carard we had so little time to think about it yeah I feel like it was harsh though look at our car that was really cool yeah maybe we were also ranked harshly because we were the first creators to go down maybe maybe we would have got a better score if we were towards the end I don't know yeah maybe but um yeah we did really bad on that and then you get obviously score for your speed in finishing the race yeah which we smashed Everyone by like four four seconds or something or seven or eight yeah like seven or eight seconds Quicks first to second and the second fastest and I think Becky and pieace got a dnf finish either they hit a minute or they stopped completely yeah cuz they went over one of the jumps and then front end broke so the wheel wasn't really like or the front was touching the floor dragging across the floor so they just I felt bad for them they just ped all across but at least they got down in one piece that's the they were just in a pint glass yeah it was really cool and they had a they had a cool performance Becky poured pint on um pie which was funny um con and Jack had a cool performance they just had some Swagger about it like yeah it was cool oh yeah we got picked on the performance but they did struggle getting into the vehicle did they yeah CU it's really hard and narrow to get in um they got they everyone got all the way to the end by the way Colin Jack fell over at the end there thing just went on its side they they chose thinner Wheels I didn't think they were going to make it that far yeah they also had a really high center of gravity cuz their car was thin and quite tall yeah like if you looked at their car it looked like it wanted to fall over it was a bit like chitty chitty bang bang but like elongated yeah so they did really well to and they were drifting it as well it was drifting so they did really well to get to the bottom um but yeah we were like seven seconds quicker than seven or eight seconds quicker than the second fastest which was it chip and freezy or was it Con I think it might have been no chip and frezy was Heavy wasn't it to be fair so that would move um and then there was People's Choice which we said we won 49% and was those were those those three so I think the reason so we ended up coming third we came third out of the four I just think it wasn't like cuz we won two out of three categories you'd think we'd win but I think they gave they were sort of like weighted yeah so because we were so low on the performance us being ahead on the other two bits didn't pull us up enough I think it's really harsh I think it doesn't matter at all by the way I don't I don't care but I do think it's harsh that performance is weighted so heavily in comparison to like speed has got to be the most important thing yeah like it's a race I know that's that's the way we were looking at it that's because it's a race come on we were focus on the race as aspect obviously soap boxes isn't Formula 1 is supposed to be like a bit of fun cretive stuff which you do get um but yeah hard winning two out of three categories and winning the race comfortably well it was more like at in the moment when they were revealing who won out of us four I was thinking in my head oh we've definitely won yeah after winning we got like 50% of the votes for People's Choice so it was a landslide Victory they said and a landslide Victory on the speed so I was thinking we have smashed those two things so surely we've gained loads of points for that yeah and we came third I was like I'm actually quite shocked by that I in my head I was thinking oh my God we've won yeah but um no it was so means anything like there's I don't there's nothing for it yeah I was just surprised but genuinely so it was so good yeah it was it was definitely definitely one of the best things I've ever done I was so glad that we did it I can't wait for the proper video to come out and have it all like a documentary s of documented archive just being like Oh I can look back at that video that was a banger yeah oh it was it was really good um then we stuck around and watched some public racing um and yeah there was it was it was nice there was a nice like area where you could get food and stuff and the worms showed up oh yeah lots of the patreon supporters a couple of N and non patreon people showed up lots of podcast people I'm guessing everyone there was podcast listeners because I didn't really put it on any platform no I think it it was all podcast we spoken about on the on on the podcast and in the patreon group chat quite a lot yeah and that was pretty much it so thank you well regardless if it's yeah thank you guys for coming along cuz it was so nice speaking to everyone great really great to have your support um yeah and yeah you guys were there for most of the day just like stood by our um what do you call it Soap Box stood by our Soap Box we were coming over when we could to say hi and stuff yeah everyone got photos we oh my goodness quite a lot of people wanted us to draw tattoos for them oh dear and we are not artistic no we're close yeah I'm a letter away but I not draw sa in my life and I was like the only thing I could think of was the rocket emoji yeah that was pretty good to be fair I was trying to draw them but getting the three little things at the bottom and the fire I was like I was like show this to your artist and they'll get what I'm trying to draw yeah they'll understand I mean I just ended up drawing flowers CU it's the easiest thing to draw it's got nothing to do with me a lot of art what just happened you just got bored of your own conversation I just yawned I was hoping you take it off me really quickly cuz I yawned no someone asked for a cameo once where they were like can you draw something for us to do a tattoo and I did a a ringed planet oh nice and oh my goodness trying to get cuz obviously if you put the circle there first the ring that goes in front like cuts through lines and it looks crap so you've kind of got to start with the ring but obviously just as the ring curves back around you have to stop and then you have to imagine where the sphere is going to be and oh my goodness I burnt through about half this notebook trying to get one that just looks semi-reasonable so whoever invented Saturn fair enough yeah exactly that must have been difficult and Uranus yep that's also ringed yeah um many too many rings yeah I've got a ring do you oh yeah and that weekend batch proposed to me so I said yes no I'm talking about my ass what anyway um it was it was a different kind of proposition to the one you were thinking of yours is way cuter than mine and I said no oh hell no I just got that that's disgusting cuz I was like on Saturday night we were just chilling we were like go we're exhausted yeah and I was like do you want to just stay around and Bach was like yeah so we played fornite and watch scary movies yeah he took me to get sushi again yeah we went to sticks and Sushi again but I was like I kind of want to make more videos but we were just so tired yeah I it was too late you just what you made me watch horror stuff we we watched a bunch of scary videos on YouTube like real ghost sightings and short horror movies and I was like I've wanted to do videos like that with you ages I was like then was the perfect time but our energy was just shock yeah we'll do it we'll definitely do it another time though CU people just love that love that horror game yeah is entertaining to watch other people get scared people don't want to watch you have fun they want to watch you cringe and be scared people enjoyed us having fun of Minecraft true but you were scared of I died like five six times I'm not very good clearly everyone's making fun of me did I die once I didn't I don't think no but your spirit died at one point hell no my spirit my spirit was always my spirit were through the roof um when I was getting attacked by Leona Lewis and I was hiding in the house turns out Leona Lewis can't go in water so I should have just gone in water I saw that comment yeah thanks for that thanks for the comment I'm actually going to use that logic and I I already want to film episode three right now do you yeah it was so fun we'll do it this week actually it's so fun like I enjoy playing it we're just loading up M fil although he needs a he needs a setup can we can we tell this boy to put some money towards a proper setup he plays on his PlayStation so we have to play Bedrock Edition so I can't use my nice shaders that make the waters and everything look clean and all the like graphics and stuff you know the like it's T's water we're keeping it the graphics upgrades are insane look just just a bit enjoy a humble bit of like Minecraft where it's nostalgic not everything has to be polished yeah okay fine um but no it was it was really good fun and it is it is I do love that we can just do that kind of stuff and just play a game and it would be fun yeah um we can just like high five when we want yeah anyway um back to let's go back in time to um the end of the race he wet himself no he didn't he didn't no he didn't but um I just want to make sure that we covered everything no because we didn't speak about um the stunt the stunts oh yeah you should tell them about the stunt they they just flung on you they didn't tell you until yeah they didn't tell me about this before and they made me sign my rights away yeah and it it was they had already Ked off the live stream so you just had to do it yeah um we basically batch got nice one he got pulled aside and they were like oh is the driver we're testing your reflexes yeah and what did they do they so she dropped a ruler and you just had to grab the ruler um as soon as she dropped it and just see how many centimeters you let drop to judge your reaction time I didn't do I think I came second actually nice but on the practice I failed uh so I was like oh that was nice and peaceful and fun I wonder what mine's going to be and they get me and they they I put this heart monitor on and I was like what they put this heart monitor on me put me in the middle of this cage and this dude called like Douglas or something comes up in this massive dirt bike and just goes like I'll lie down in the middle and I was like I know exactly where this is going got R to me and Jack just start planking and he's sort of in this giant he giant of a man I swear he's like 6'4 in this massive dirt bike and he's sort of there like on one wheel bouncing the like wheel like an inch from my head and I'm like if he just if anything misjudges he crushes my skull yeah like we we we lose one of the Bright Young talents of this generation and you as well wait what do you mean well they'd get Jack and you oh yeah yeah good old Jack and then then he was doing like wheelies around your head like just driving past full speed past his head yeah it was giving me the E actually see lie down there insane and I was just like well I'm playing it cool cuz that's like the name of the game it'd be cringe if I got up and I mean they they even said that if you get up you're at risk of just getting your head whacked cuz he's like an inch within your head so if you move it until you die yeah um and for like a minute he just did this and bounced around and yeah you were down there for a hot minute yeah we were there for ages just getting driven around I thought oh this is just getting this is just cruel now yeah I mean the poor boy is just lying there with a boner by the way uh because he gets that happens when he gets scared just why you think I keep getting you for horror games oh no i h on a Bo so he's just doing circling circling circling around Arthur on the floor it just I just felt a bit sorry for him in the end yeah uh so that was terrifying but good F night you know I'm up for anything I did realized the other day I'm just one of his friends who's just up for thing yeah you are actually someone could be like hey we're going to sit inside and watch movies tonight I be like fine or they can be like come on man we're robbing a bank I'm like cool they'll be like come on going glamping for the weekend do you is that real though if I said or okay let's go and watch the Euros tonight fine let's do it England England this is the last night of the group stage and all of a sudden the mood is really dead because we're just through now we've not played well either it's been pathetic there I said it and Harry Kane when you finally come on this podcast I've got some strong words to have with you mine mine Reserve is Gareth Southgate and not bringing BR and not playing kobby Mayu okay sorry Harry Kane actually way he's playing phenomenally to be not as if we're missing him but I'm mad at you Southgate yeah Italy um not playing too bad oh my goodness you're Italian did you watch the game last night and they scored the 90th plus eight to go through 98th minute it was the draw against Croatia oh that was heartbreaking poor the thing is they probably would have gone through anyway as one of the people third but um it's nice to confirm it you know yeah those moments of elation just so hard I think Italy just like a decent Striker anyway we won't bore you with football because a lot of people probably don't care about football yeah um but yeah I mean I'm getting into F1 now yes you are you watch drive to survive right yeah I've been watching drive to surv I need to get on that I really want to watch that um and hence why the Red Bull so box race I was really in I was really in my element Because You Loved does it make you love Red Bull as well the driver to survive does it follow a particular team it follows the mall and to be honest I haven't really got like a team I really um it's not like I really want to see this team win it's more people that you care about it's good to see Red Bull doing well but um I like Lando do you yeah you're Lando Norris enjoyer I'm a Lando enjoyer I like them all to be fair from what I've seen I like I get I like Char all oh cuz he kind he kind of looks like Charles mclair uh yeah I get uh Lando Norris a lot people always say like L nor I'm not sure about that boy and uh obviously like V stappen red the Red Bull goat what batch V stappen high five what does that even mean batch for steppen me batch for steppen batch for steppen me instead of Max for Sten batch for Sten it's one of the only times that batch really goes into anything batch for Sten what do people nickname you at school get tuna boy cuz I've brought in tuna fish boy uh right I was going duckling I was going for more names like name related like okay because I was oh name related I was I was called nothing I was just called Arthur I don't know why I said it like that I was called Nothing me yeah had no friends at school no I didn't really people would say ice as a joke ice yeah I just I didn't like not having a cool nickname name my sister one of my sisters calls me Izzy that's really cringe and feminine yo she watches these which is fine yo she watches these apologize down the lens right now I apologize nothing cuz it is it was true it was my truly held opinion and you should never apologize for being yourself sometimes she calls me Elizabeth as well what and I don't really know where she got that from she started that was a good what what yeah she watches it where she works as she was working she'll have it on Gizzy by the way I didn't get cancelled for what Sunday came out where I waterboarded Chris I haven't watched that and I was seriously worried I was genuinely like I thought you know just some people on the internet can be real yeah cuz they might be like oh you're making fun of water boarding people actually die from water boarding that's not what I exactly what I meant oh because okay you can't waterboard Chris because he doesn't like water and some people have been drowned before no okay of course because because you shouldn't do water boarding because it's like saying this is something you should it's really on impressionable fans and they'll be like okay I'm going to water board my mom tonight right maybe maybe that was like oh you shouldn't do that on to an impression I'm going to cancel you right now in that case um but no I I I just thought people would be like oh that was so mean of him they're not friends like just you know when you don't really know I mean obviously anyone who's seen Chris and videos knows how much abuse he puts me through I mean that guy abuse shs down on my neck like there's no tomorrow he's just I I'll just be chilling mid shootting he'll just go on my traps I mean granted they're juicy like they're nice muscular defined um have you ever thought you might just be a vampire I don't know hiding in plain sight you know you've got two Pierce marks right there you getting sucked by you've got really garlicky breath so I don't think I could be a a vampire cuz otherwise let's not start rumors like that otherwise I'd run there's not start rumors like that yeah my breath smells like daisies rainbows fairy tales I'm always chewing gum you are always chewing gum you're a real gum chewer yeah it Bo it boosts your confidence it's like putting a pair of sunglasses on I'm glad you don't do it on the podcast that would be the most annoying thing to listen to I have done it before but I just tuck it into my teeth like snz you don't mean that it's gum you don't mean that it's gum it's just weird you don't mean that it's gum gum started freaking out you know we were speaking about eggs the other day when you you're Midway through eating heads and you're like wait up yeah that's a period something ain't right that's a menstrual cycle raor and you're like yeah well that weirdly makes me like it more it's more than I knew you were a feminist me too come on yeah um we do like to bring awareness to the fact that women exist and have Cycles cuz I I I mentioned menstrual cycles all the time and I in one of my YouTube videos I was like I've got to stop saying menstrual cycles drop a comment if you think I should stop saying menual cycle everyone's like no and someone's like no it actually feels kind of feminist in a weird way cuz you're bringing light to the fact of cuz not everyone knows that women have I think everyone knows women have periods I found out 3 days ago watching your video you thought they had penis what I just thought they merely existed they merely exist in a in a realm Between Heaven and Hell where somewhere I love doesn't exist what the hell is this guy talking about women only exist in heaven women are heaven on Earth in my opinion how does that song Go heaven heaven for what it's worth women are heaven on Earth women are heaven on Earth brother in Christ you don't know what you're talking about right now I feel like we're getting on to Serious brain rot have you got anything else this is a rare batch prepared actually been praying preparing a lot um all of the episodes lately we've actually yeah hence why the quality's increased um no you just you do stuff in a different way I like like reading and talking reading well next episode's prepared by by Arthur and we'll be filming this directly after this one yeah we're doing complet transparency cuz batch is way on holiday and I'm going to be honest because I'm not I've not brought a spare pair of clothes anyway yeah me neither I don't want to hear no comments like why is he wearing that shirt again well they should be comenting CU alth this on an episode before quite frankly Arthur is either can I just say by the way I predicted what you were going to be wearing on the Red Bull meal I said Arthur will turn up in Black corduroy shorts um and a cream beige top shirt either worn as an overshirt with a white t-shirt underneath or just a shirt that's exactly what you were that's true I mean I have two other pairs of shorts I had a black like pair that were like had textured but the waistband thing snapped hard to find a good pair of shorts and then I had a nice like cream beige pair yeah um but they were just like I don't know linen and just ended up being a bit too and take it from a guy a sleepover with him he doesn't take them off he showers in them he goes me to take them off he was like take them off take them off take them off and I was like leave me alone yeah I was like please wash please wash you were just misreading me I wasn't saying take them off I was like please wash please wash anyway I I got the um I went into the patreon chat o uh little plug if you want to join the patreon go ahead there's a chat you get early access to episodes they get uploaded all the time and Bullies me in it yeah I do speak in there a fair amount um and I said to them we're filming two pods today can you guys reply to this message with any questions you have about the Red Bull Soapbox race we're going to be doing a whole episode on it uh because I thought there might be you know they might want to know more information on how it was built or how we were feeling and stuff and we could just give us some insight to that we've just explained the day how cool it was blah blah blah but they want to know the BTS let's see how insightful their questions can be okay did you hurt your nose that's [ __ ] rude no I didn't that obviously pointed at you no I didn't to be fair I did we had said in an episode prior that there was no foam and we are going to smash our faces in they put foam in we had good helmets on but we didn't actually crash so yeah we didn't crash so although his coxic bone is in pain yeah my coxics I'm absolutely fine because I'm not weak that's your tailbone um may ask for us highly evolved Apes that was from Brooke by the way I'll say names shout outs May says how SL why did you decide to build a rocket why I guess cuz it's very on brand for us have a look at our mugs yep yeah I mean we're just we're were're a Spacey themed podcast for no apparent reason we genely I'm sure we said in the earlier episodes we had no plans to be themed and bats just randomly one day went let's just make it space themed I just think it's cool yeah me I just think we both think it's cool we do we just need a cool set I think most of the things we do is because we think oh that's cool like the Soap Box we thought oh it'd be cool if we did a a ship or a ufi yeah just cuz it just cuz it's funny someone actually messaged in for the next one I've got like the submissions from the normal submissions page which everyone can enter just go to our any of our socials at Bach and arur and in the link there's like a a link tree and one of them is the submissions form and they were like what is your target audience because I can't really figure it out and I'm studying media at the moment target audience is such a big thing and I was like we don't have one we just come on talk about whatever we find interesting yeah and just hope that some people agree yeah and the people who do listen are actually very um diverse yeah and intelligent and cool and good looking and all this yeah um so yeah no um yeah and it's weird because we're not sitting there going oh let's talk about this to appeal to this audience which I think is I mean somehow it works so thank you guys for tuning into thanks cuz I think if you analyzed it in like a media class and it was like oh one minute you're doing brain rot meme references and the next you're talking about s men and then the next we're talking about Greek philosophy and the next one like Roman Parables and then religion they'd be like well someone's going to listen to the one episode like it and then not like the rest yeah but for some reason people just like listening to it all really I think we just decided that we're just going to do what we want like yeah whatever we enjoy yeah like whatever we enjoy and whatever we F feel like talking about we're just going to do it because if you want to enjoy something you've like if you want this if we want this podcast to continue we've got to enjoy it and if we're looking at it tactically like Oh Let's do an episode on this so we can boost our audience in this demographic it will start to feel like a like a real job well like you know I've heard from other people that do podcasts that their producers will be like today you're having this guest on and they're like well I've never watched the show they're on or Never follow them don't care about the story but I've got to do it's nice that we kind of have a just able to just go oh whatever and I do think the stuff we talk about is interesting broadly like if you're someone who like whenever we meet or speak to anyone who watches the podcast they're always like oh I love like these types of interesting discussions I feel like if you have a generally curious mind yeah like if if people who are listening to this and enjoy it are going to be similar to us in that respect and they you know even if they don't have a an interest in any of the particular like they might be like oh I love hearing about religion I'm a curious person but they don't care about Greek philosophy yeah or anything when we speak about the ship of thesis they're still like oh it's an interesting thought like it's an interesting thought so if you're one of those types of people like us then all that kind of stuff is interesting I guess thus our our demographic is people who just have similar interests to us yeah or like have a similar outlook on life or yeah that's the thing it's not even like it's just it's the broad value of curiosity I think who just like they like to laugh they like a bit of Comedy cuz we even get people who disagree with us and they're like oh I'm religious I completely disagree with this all but it was so interesting to listen to and so they're not listening because we're speaking about things that they find um they agree with or they enjoy you know but they're going like oh like I like the way these topics are approached or the way this is discussed and yeah so yeah hopefully we'll try and keep that up um hey no way we're going to brain Rock 24/7 after here or no anyway um Connie asked what was your top speed we don't actually know but what did you think it was 30 well when we passed we passed the speed gate at what will be one of the fastest points and that was 30 okay mil K yeah km pH um Leia says do you think you were going to make it to the Finish Line did you think you were going to make it to the Finish Line I genuinely um did not think we were going to make it past the chicane to be honest yeah cuz I didn't realize the course was as wide as it was however the as narrow as it was you mean actually yeah yes and no the thing is it's like driving a car when you're in a car it looks like you're you're bigger than the road but actually you can fit in much smaller of a gap than you expect yourself to be able to and so when you're actually in the soap box when we were doing the chicane in my head I thought we're going to catch one of the hay bals and go flying but actually although it was actually pretty close watching it back it felt like I had enough room to get round and stuff well two hay bals we did fully slic through well yeah if the wings were like flat fronted we would have we could have just spun out flown but because the wings were just like yeah we the first one and then the second one we through that yeah um but in no I didn't think we were going to make it down in one piece to be honest I thought either we'd get to the end and there' be damage or we'd fall over at the end or we just wouldn't make it to the end cuz it's not a like it more often than not you don't make it to the end yeah so I thought statistically I didn't I didn't think we were going to make it to the end so I was surprised were you or not it's so funny because at the start you're like I really don't know but be when you're going down it's so fast and you've got to think a lot like yeah I was just constantly thinking like just monitoring whether we were going too fast or not to be like bring the speed down ever so slightly and it's everything's happening so fast you don't have time to think oh are we going to make it like any hypotheticals it's just uh pull the break break on break off break off oh my goodness are we going to make this corner are we going to too fast at how are we doing like all this kind of stuff's rushing through your head I didn't even think about it I was no so yeah I had no thoughts in my head either I think we were just on reflex at that point yeah because every yeah like Arthur said everything's coming at you so quick like before the chane I thought I had enough time to put my hand up and wave and I was like [ __ ] no I don't yeah so that's when I came back onto the wheel and did that so we really don't have much time in that thing um then Phoenix asks what was the hardest and easiest part of the creative process oh hard po was coming up with an idea for what we wanted to do as the car because we took ages like they were asking us for the design for so long and we were like we really don't know it is hard when you can do literally anything it's like the classic situation where you've got too much Choice yeah so you can't make a decision and neither necessarily creative creative types yeah so we and also it's it's difficult as well when there's two people because obviously if one person wants to do something we we agreed yeah we we didn't have any friction on what we wanted to do we because we both didn't really have an idea but you've got to make sure that what one person comes up with the other person's happy to do um but I think from the go we just suggested either a space shuttle or UFO we were both happy with those two ideas and then we had a look at some pictures and we thought okay let's go for a space sh that was it yeah so I think that um it was hard in the beginning but to to be honest the decision process was pretty easy for us in the end I do think the hardest part although that was hard I think what was harder for us was probably um building the chassis don't you think it was harder than the woodwork yeah that's probably true cuz we didn't have any engineer assistance with the underly car yeah the actual chassis itself we just had bits like we didn't have instructions for half of it we were in in a big Warehouse with just a bunch of nuts bolts rods	find um they agree with or they enjoy you know but they're going like oh like I like the way these topics are approached or the way this is discussed and yeah so yeah hopefully we'll try and keep that up um hey no way we're going to brain Rock 24/7 after here or no anyway um Connie asked what was your top speed we don't actually know but what did you think it was 30 well when we passed we passed the speed gate at what will be one of the fastest points and that was 30 okay mil K yeah km pH um Leia says do you think you were going to make it to the Finish Line did you think you were going to make it to the Finish Line I genuinely um did not think we were going to make it past the chicane to be honest yeah cuz I didn't realize the course was as wide as it was however the as narrow as it was you mean actually yeah yes and no the thing is it's like driving a car when you're in a car it looks like you're you're bigger than the road but actually you can fit in much smaller of a gap than you expect yourself to be able to and so when you're actually in the soap box when we were doing the chicane in my head I thought we're going to catch one of the hay bals and go	6	4	2	find um they agree with or they enjoy you know but they're going like oh like I like the way these topics are 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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0g_xJvKEb8	4,108	-0g_xJvKEb8	2024-06-27 00:00:00	[Music] what's up everybody welcome back to episode 14 of the batch and Arthur podcast yay go thanks for joining everyone we have something to reveal yes we do I know you guys don't like it when Arthur has his mug on the couch because he tends to drop things don't you never dropped anything actually okay you dropped that th done remember that well you might have noticed I also have my mug on the sofa mhm wondering why who wants to know why should we tell them something to do with one like equals one Lara maybe something to do with that exactly you guys ready see what you reveal go way for audio listeners we have white mugs with our little cartoon characters on them that's right little will I didn't want to Cheers you and I've got my little handsome space guy come on yeah Lara surprised us with these this is a gift um mine shatterproof as well apparently oh it's not sh yeah he's got a plastic mug because we know what he's like I've sippy C the audio listeners actually little rubber cppy cup with two handles well actually when Arthur drinks from a mug show them how you do it I'll I'll commentate for this he uses two hands so he grabs on the like handle and then he grabs the other hand I drink everything with two hands especially tea and Pints yeah I don't really know what is there a reason for that or not safety I guess twice as balanced is that really if one arm stops working the other one's there as a fail safe well there you go that's why he does it guys so it makes sense all after all yeah um speaking of batch and Arthur this podcast design right here yeah this has been plasted on something recently what our rocket ship oh yeah guys we just got back from the Red Bull Soap Box race and we're alive 2024 we genuinely were not sure we were going to survive no I was but we did really scared we we turned up we got to see other people's cards um and there was basically two things going on so there's like a public race and then the Creator race was like a separate thing which is streamed on YouTube If you go on Red Bull's um YouTube channel and you go on under the live tab you can actually watch the full thing yeah we were like a half time race yeah it was Bas half time show yeah there was a few people who weren't happy about the Creator's uh racing cuz they thought we were mixed in with the public but it's like a whole separate thing like we can't win any awards over the public or anything like that yeah um but but we won the hearts of the public come on yeah we did win the hearts of the public there was a a couple of things that you were like rated on as creators and one of them was People's Choice and we got a landslide victory of 44% yeah it actually ended up on 49% 50% out of four teams we got 49 everyone rounds 49 thank you to everyone who voted for us we one of four teams but we're up against chip and freezy who have a big loving audience Becky and pieace who audience and then con from the siden huge loving audience and the guy who's our cameraman on the train video the siden that's right Jack was there as well went to with con they had cool out but uh we we got to Ali p uh that's my first time there you've been there before actually I think we should start the day before okay let's let's reel that [ __ ] back because we had another sleepover kind of yeah we did have another let's just say oh no we didn't really a hotel yeah we did not have a sleepover but what did we do where did we first meet we we met at the we met at the hotel at the hotel dropped our bags off Adam was there he's the Red Bull guy that was been looking after us and he took all the creators out to dinner yeah we to find the tell first yeah chopped a pint um both hands come on yeah then we got in a taxi we went to dinner we had a create a dinner um what did you eat pizza yeah I had a really really hot hot pizza but the thing I was enjoying the most was the football we had a massive screen in front of us oh yeah cuz France were playing Netherlands NE scen I felt kind of harsh cuz the the table was positioned in a way that only half of us could see the football and the other half were just watching us watching football yeah but no he they were watching a react video basically they got to see us live reacting In the Flesh um but the meal was really good the food was really good uh Jake was struggling Jake the guy works with um Arthur they both got the same Pizza he was struggling with the heat yeah he was [ __ ] [ __ ] struggling with the Pint as well got two pints steep was steaming no cuz he was so in denial Jake yeah Jake had a couple pints and he was gone we were like you are drunk he like I am not drunk and he was getting angry mad I'm not even drunk he's I haven't even done anything later he's doing karaoke so that's belting out karaoke with his phone to the to the mic with with voice note on my God it's so that was you singing those Tunes to someone yeah we yeah CU you've been to a place before should we say the name of the place or not I actually I don't remember it anyway okay we went to this place anyway Arthur's been there before it's um like a karaoke bar with uh like an arcade and bowling and there's a dance floor and like a bar and stuff like that yeah very good fun we all went there did some karaoke went there for Arthur Hill's birthday that's how I found out about it what a place it is a cool place actually um yeah did a bit of karaoke we were in there for a couple hours doing karaoke in the end yeah um belting at tunes by the way batch can sing No Arthur can sing yeah but I think people would assume that from but that goes without saying no but but Frank Sinatra came on and oh my goodness batch was just cooking that thing anyone can sing Frank arra welcome back Frank Sinatra he died and this is him reborn wasn't wasn't he heavily involved with the mafia Frank Sinatra so are you you're a quter Italian that's true but I can't admit that no not legally anyway oops they're going to come and get me try and come and get me watch me beat beat you all up actually I shouldn't say what if they do don't come and get me please I was just kidding I've got nothing to do with him he lives on 32 Italian back street oh my god that actually is my house number H what don't say that it's not that's my apartment number as well no we you're not finding out where we live um I'm going to move in with Arthur anyway we moved in together on Minecraft yeah sort of anyway back to karaoke we had fun at karaoke then we went home we didn't get back till 3:00 a.m. silly move because we had to be up early yeah we had it well not that early we had 10: a.m. taxi picks up yeah but we met at breakfast at 9:30 it was the most romantic breakfast of my life yeah um and then stayed at the Hilton Red Bull of class they put us in there they also like what a lovely experience not only did they take us to dinner they they paid for karaoke and everything like that they covered everything shout out to Red Ball I'm going to crack One open right now and they're actually delicious all these colored red balls my actual favorite is the summer edition you guys should actually try this this is not sponsored but I'm just saying this is not even the first thing I I did I went to salburg in Austria and did some Red Bull salburg video shooting with Chris MD um we did like penal sh outs in games with mads bistrup for their YouTube channel and then did a video in it was the the final one of christed uh every time you beat a Defender the defender gets upgraded that's right yeah and we start off with like Harry R Shaw as the worst Defender when all the way up to Champions League mads bistr who fantastic player I mean yeah you realize how like when you watch t uh football on TV you think oh I could do that yeah but then if you see a actual Pro in real life yeah like that makes sense why you went pro now actually we need to do more charity so that was fun that was fun there are a lot going on it's just timings cuz there's so many things going on during summer and that's usually when charity matches go down yeah but you got to work in the schedules either you're away or I'm away or there's a brand trip or something has to be submitted in time was crazy yeah but um no I'm sure we're going to do a lot more stuff with Red Bull as well so that's exciting um but anyway we then got the taxi to Alex Alexandra Palace Ali pal come on and um I've only just realized that's why it's Ali P really yeah I just thought that Ali P was the hill and Alexandre Palace was no way Ali now I've just heard it okay that's Ali P right anyway U you almost did a off the TV intro that right right so then we uh we got into the race so no we got into the Zone where the race was going on yeah and we got to have a little scout out all the public submitted soap boxes some really cool stuff in there yeah although there was one weird one because we rock up and there are like four girls gathered around water is essentially a double bed one girl just tucked up and you back like oh this is cool and she was like yeah it's really cozy get in we were like no I I ain't doing all that I'm sure though that you know that wasn't actually her like lying in it yeah I know you could tell something was weird under the covers but I was not getting involved what what what the hell um oh you can't see my soundboard I've got to pull this back so I can soundboard here yeah he hasn't got a soundboard yet thank goodness although I should no they all see the comments by the way Lara and Arthur see the comments and Lara even said into the group chat she was like I think we need to get bat of soundboard because of all the comments she sent me a message being like listen we've got one purchase a year we can authorize either we get cool mugs or batch gets a soundboard and I was like mugs mugs oh hell no I just think it's so much funnier when you do it yourself and go to I do think so but this is going to get worn down and eventually there's going to be a Hole uh oh audio listeners don't know what I'm doing I I just I pretend there's a soundboard and I just push the sof and make my I do it as well I do it in real life I'll be speaking to people when I'm BR but it doesn't make his much sense in real life just in a conversation he's just air poking stuff as he goes brh you know what's so funny as well I showed batch this someone one of you guys one of our listeners because cuz I you do it quite a lot but I do it all the time at you do the what yeah what that thing someone did a Tik Tok called whatting people in public so she goes into this petrol station goes to pay she goes like how much is that and he goes like Oh 1350 and she just goes what loud so loud just yells it in this man's face and everyone was like bad bad you guys have to recreate this it was so funny yeah and then Arthur was like we've got to do this we've got I don't know if I have the like what is it um social confidence to do that I'd be able to do it not yell it I thought it was a bit rude though the loud yelling not in a bad I'm not criticizing you I just able to do that like that myself I'd be like what I think sorry you got no no soup of the day what what when you have a camera on you though that you get a new found confidence in public like I found no no no in general I don't know if you agree with this in like a sidan video I Feel Like rules don't apply like social rules then don't apply cuz you've got a camer on you and you can do what you want whatever you want yeah I've only recently started being able to finally find it within myself to Vlog like when we were at wagas I was like this is actually fine yeah whereas before IID look at people vlogging in public and I go I admire you a lot cuz I can never do that it helps having people around you yeah although I feel like we do it with our phones it's a bit easier that's true whereas if people with their cameras out like facing their way I'm like oh my goodness I'd be so embarrassed yeah I think I would be as well especially if you got like a big rig on the end of that thing people are just admiring you your rig yeah both of them come on anyway um what speaking of the soap boxes that we saw um there was this one there was like these four guys like lying down chilling and they had this like Dome oh yeah which was kind of like a I guess like a spa you know the space shuttles that come down to earth it kind of looked a bit like that didn't yeah um like a landing module yeah like a landing module and they what did what did they make it off fiberglass or something yeah oh my God you could smell it from where we were still and they were like stick your head in that so we stuck it you stuck your head in first took a whiff and I did it afterwards oh my God dizzying genuinely dizzying I'm high I'm still high from that moment if anyone's ever been in like a a surfboard shop where they like make the surfboards yeah it smells like that it just smell exactly like that and they bizarre I just burped on I thought that was what that was that was disgusting hopefully that didn't get picked up apologize sorry guys sorry if you heard that cut that out anyway um it's not getting cut uh it they had to spend the whole run down in that thing so I think those guys are a little bit waved yeah I'm glad we I'm glad we were just a team of two and had two seats because I kind of felt bad some people that pushed the Soap Box thing down yeah like running after it for like 50 meters and it was a hot day that's true like um most people was like a team of four and two would push two would be in it I think that's standard isn't it to have two people in the so box and then a team that will push and Chase it down probably chase down chip and freezies yeah funny it was funny as well the way he was running because I guess it was like a it was like Looney Tunes the way he had his arms up like that chasing them down to be fair there are people I felt more bad for he talking about some of the injuries of the day oh my God and this is the thing like good gosh man we were already nervous then we were then we got to S see our um vehicle which they had made some mods to by the way so put me at ease a little bit they put foam in the place where my head would smash oh yeah so I felt about that yeah um they didn't they were going to cut out the wheel arches so we could turn more but they didn't I'm glad they I actually think that worked in our favor in it did um and they were actually slagging it off when it went up on towards stage they were speaking about it on Mike and they were like they can't turn properly they can't see over it and I was thinking oh no they're slagging off our thing they were talking about our buckets on the back and stuff I don't know if they were slagging off the buckets or just speaking about I just heard bucket like they're talking about ours oh my god um but it actually worked in favor and then there was screens up showing the first runs and it took a while it like an hour or two after we got there till the first run um but did you see the Sheep one no I didn't see any of the big ones but that's a bad one there was a sheep we I was watching a sheep go down um it was just before you did your stunt I think and it got all the way to the end and then at full speed flipped over onto their necks and I think it was one of them that broke their collarbone and it looked awful and after seeing that me and pieace was stood together we were like I we genuinely don't want to go down after seeing that he was [ __ ] it I was [ __ ] it um and then not only that I think other people must have like been bruised or whatever but the other big one that we heard about is we when we got to the start line we were there waiting for like 10 minutes and it was cuz the person who went down before us got knocked out so that's crazy yeah which I didn't see I don't think we'll ever see any footage of that but I don't know what vehicle it was or anything I just heard that they got knocked out that's why we were up there for ages yeah I mean it was going down insanely fast yeah it look I mean it looks quick on camera but it doesn't look nearly as quick as it feels yeah when you're in that thing oh my goodness and you can barely see in front of you you're bouncing all over the place you're hitting these jumps there are bits where there's foam that like splashes you in the face you have a few seconds of blindness yeah it's mental it it to best describe it definitely feels faster than sitting in a car at 60 MPH I'd say faster than it feels sitting in a car going 100 yeah cuz you're so exposed to we've never gone 100 I've been on the auto bar in Germany okay fair um but yeah you're exposed so it just feels so quick but we were quick insanely Qui insanely quick I think everyone we were the first of the creators to go up everyone thought we were going to just crash yeah or just be crap and slow there was so many comments so many DMs I got afterward was like [ __ ] fair enough before we even went down though before we get cuz we we will react we'll show you us going down yeah but I think we should tell them actually maybe should we hit play and then we'll pause at certain bits to be like explainer yeah I'll tell you what it plays it goes all the way through and then they do it in slow-mo afterwards we can on the slow-mo we'll do some explanation okay here we go batch and Arthur we had the podcast sticker oh it was such a good sticker on the side which was really cool and they zoomed in out loads for the YouTube video which is great yeah was all over the stream which was ideal although you cannot see podcast there until someone shads over it yeah someone's just shattering we were stood up there for ages genuinely yeah because someone had just been knocked out looking down this hill that was just so steep it's not funny but look at that thing that's so impressive it's so well built I can't believe it and I'm I'm gutted because I actually wanted to say to the we had a little bit of help from the Red Bull Engineers yeah I wanted to say thank you to them more just be like what did you see that that was really good yeah if anyone knows anything by any chance please pass on our thanks because yeah they they helped us hopefully they watched it and saw a great deal uh but we did do a lot I mean we did spend two full days building this thing and printing it up and stuff so yeah which you'll obviously see in the Vlog I'll talk about I'll talk about something later cuz there's um this was posted to Tik Tok and there's some funny comments on there really basically yeah basically calling us desk dwellers what so this is our performance so this performance we didn't know we no was supposed to do we we were told to choose a piece of music so we chose something like Space Odyssey style but we had no idea that meant we had to perform yeah and like like she's saying like there are points for performance and we knew about 10 minutes beforehand that this 30 second period of Music we'd have to Performance so we were like let's just do something simple gum shields in the mouth bow and get in and they were harsh they gave us a three but that also also counts to the way the vehicle looks so I think three is Harsh yeah but here we go performance score 22 poor but this is when we started racking up speed the steering was really weird as well cuz it changed as we got quicker and we were just bouncing as we went down like we'd hit a ramp and oh my goodness like almost front flipped that around we Whi around the corner and our our genuine one of our wings like clipped a ha Bell and just sliced through it that one sliced through the hay Bell I was thinking as we came down I swear I would have hit that side had I not hit that side and then nailed the braking and you said you could smell burnt rubber when you were breaking on that thing cuz I was like tickling the brakes like before a jump every now and then I do one all as we approached the chicane I pulled it yeah um but they said as we were going down in the commentary like yeah oh this feels fast usually you're hitting like low 20s here and it comes up on the side and we're hitting 30 km an hour yeah we were going and we were oh my goodness I'm glad you didn't break touch the break though we didn't need it yeah yeah I mean you did a did a little bit but I mean the others obviously touched it a lot more yeah I basically kept us at a speed where I was like this is very close to the line of like where we can make this corner at the speed because at the end of the day as a race and I was like we don't want to get up at the end and just be like oh like a couple of the soite boxes made it halfway down and just like stopped completely yeah and they were like having to like like I don't know like Shake It Forward it's so awkward like we did speak and we did say we'd actually rather crash going pretty quick than come to a grinding hle because it's just not good material yeah like we did it for Content wants to see that it's for a video we know representing creators at half time yeah so many people watching we've got a space shuttle that is designed at a velocity of 17,000 500 mph yeah so we were like you know hitting to be honest when they gave us those uh cuz we asked for special helmets that covered the face yeah when they gave me that I felt invincible and I thought oh [ __ ] it and we had gum Shields that we like ped poured into boiling water molded them before and molded them so we we felt pretty safe yeah I mean but still at 30 we weren but I don't have miles hour or kilm an hour I think it was mph I actually do really yeah but whatever it is at 30 like genuinely like just whacking your head against something solid is well I mean someone did get knocked out and broke it was terrifying yeah they they then do a slow-mo okay let's watch the slow-mo and we can break down exactly because I was thinking there was a point in the chicane when we really Whi round I was thinking why did that happen it was because the back right wheel wasn't on the ground when we were coming up to the chicane so when it touched the the ground it turned us into a corner so I was like [ __ ] and I had to spin it around one way and then back around the other way oh that's why we had that major wobble yeah and you can see it it's like it's cuz one of the wheels wasn't on the ground okay let's let's watch and like in the first one we'll try and go for the audio listeners kind of describe what we're seeing yeah so the first jump yeah we it was a heavy a heavy bit of Kit as well we definitely had one of the heavier ones it and it was like so we got through here the back that wheel wasn't on the ground so like had to correct it well the chicane of just having to go really quick left and then really quick right after yeah and then this pit we hit a bunch of stairs and bch basically grinds on the right hand of them it's cuz afterwards we had to be on the right hand side so I was thinking I can't turn directly after I'm going to have to turn on the ramp like the CL the the course is split in two with like steps on the left and straight on the right and we go down the steps but like half dangling off yeah you have a choice whether to do jumps or not obviously we were going to do the jumps cuz you get docked time um no they add time on if you go round cuz it's a bit unfair yeah but we you were just like let's head it yeah and after the first jump it it looks like we really jump around I don't know about you but in it it didn't feel that bad I I think I'm the exact opposite cuz I was going flying and my bum still Hur May was our positioning or cuz I was holding on to this when yeah I had nothing to hold on to I was just sat on a blue seat I re yeah I reckon that's what it was cuz it kept me like sort of planted you fix and you're in the center so with us like when when you go off the Jump the nose sort of goes down yeah it did and then the back col kicks up into the air and then slams down and because I'm at the back you really got you know I've got a lot further to fall and I just got whacked and my butt like when I sit on the sofa like no I can feel it bruised on I was actually un unscared I was absolutely fine yeah God it was um after that first jump though I got a lot more confidence in the run I was thinking oh that was fine I can we can do all the [ __ ] jumps yeah I just got full speed no I rate it I'm so glad you just sent it cuz and you I mean you didn't have a choice sending it yeah you just you na yeah exactly you could SL down but uh I they miked us did they mic you up CU they miked me up but I said nothing the whole run yeah why would you you couldn't because the thing is I was so focused I think it's because we went so quick because there's a Red Bull posted a video on their Tik Tok page where because they miked up chip and freezy and um it's off chip speaking to freezy and he's like on the brakes off the brakes okay we're going to go around this now and I think it's CU they were using the brakes and communicating about the brakes that they had stuff to say but because we were just you told me before you weren't going to touch the brake so I thought okay he's really not there's no point saying anything and you know whether it's a Brak or not so I was just thinking I'm just going to drive I was literally only thinking like I'm only going to slow us down if I feel like at this speed we either can't hit that jump properly or can't go around the corner and I was just tickling it and it was only at the end like I was like I've got to wait until we cross the finish line before I can break and I just Ram it and because it was a friction break it's like literally a metal bar that just pulls down onto both of the rear wheels it just starts smelling like burning rubber actually nailed that was so good though cuz we literally landed after that last jump we landed and I was like [ __ ] the Finish is right there and all I could hear was I just knew he pulled that thing so hard we came around the corner and didn't touch a single thing because he broke just in time yeah and the thing was untouched like the they said they it could get sent back to one of us so I send it to my house um I got I didn't tell you this yet I got a DM from someone saying I'm just about to watch your soap box get destroyed what no it's been graveyard we took it to a graveyard but we put it to one side no they told us we could have it uh yeah oh the guy might be lying I I pray he is cuz that's so harsh but I saw it in the DM request I was like [ __ ] surely not we should M message Adam but I think a big part of the reason we couldn't speak or do much else is because we weren't so full s we did that in 36 seconds chip and freezy were the second fastest in our group I think and they were 44 seconds yeah so we were we were literally seven or eight seconds I mean I don't exactly know what their milliseconds were but we were seven or eight seconds faster than them and I mean the difference like you watch them go down and they're sort of doing a decent speed but I thought them being go- karters you know they've got their Senor frogs they race every year yeah I was like they're going to bomb it too yeah but they kind of just played it relatively safe I mean good time time but like I do think we we absolutely Center and we had this guy come up to us at the end like should you say yeah say and this guy comes up to us and go don't like freak out now or anything um but we're checking because we genuinely think this was one of the fastest of all time yeah like fastest soap boxes ever he thought we hit the world record run right there and then and they cuz they had to check them by the millisecond yeah and we were a fraction of a second off being the fastest ever 1 18 of a second something something ridiculous like that and uh so I think we were either the second or the third fastest of all time yeah there were rumors at the end of the day and I don't know whether it was Chip just winding us up being like the last car of the day was slightly faster yeah they they yeah they said something like the last car of the day actually broke the world record so if that is true we're the third fastest of all time if not we are the second fastest of all time to go down that track and we rather the second of the first fastest of this year's event which is just just the coolest thing ever like we to be fair have also like we couldn't have picked a design that was Better Built For Speed I mean it's so people were saying this is this is aerodynamic and I was thinking it is but I don't think it's going to make that much of a difference in this yeah scenario and whether it did or not or whether it was just the fact that you didn't break much yeah I think that was it it was quite heavy it was heavy as well you had one of the heavy ones so at the start you can tell this was one of the things we were saying we should have got two people cuz we only got Jake to shove us at the start yeah and when when you start off just going down the ramp it took us a while to pick up speed if we had sort of been shoved and started at a really good pace and kept it at that pace I genely think we could have built the record but I'm I want to do it again same that's why I wanted to keep that cuz we could have just modified that and send it down we know that's a winning formula yeah make it into a submarine or something yeah exactly that thing works but Red Bull like they they we had such a great time with them they did so much for us and we were so grateful and we were speaking see nothing guaranteed and stuff um but they were saying there's a potential for us to come back and maybe do the one that you know you launch off a ramp and you're like 10 m up whatever and you've got to Glide over water as far as possible there and there are loads of other sort of like cool Red Bull events and stuff to do so um yeah I think we make this a thing if we can do just more of this stuff yeah I loved it it was genuinely one of the best things I've ever done I think yeah and there's a the the the only annoying thing is there's so much footage it's going to take a while to get the video together because Red Bull have Clips we have clips they've sent us a hard driver clipse I've got stuff on my phone B has stuff on his phone Jake has stuff on his phone so we'll gather it all together but when the video comes out I think it'll be such a good one because so good the whole experience was just the coolest thing ever and we couldn't be more grateful to Red Bull for that the perfect run at the end we just ended it so perfectly the whole experience I think yeah it couldn't have gone better afterwards I so cool yeah I couldn't get the helmet off though we got to the very end I could not figure out how to unclip the helmet so I did the interview with a helmet on yeah they could not hear thing as well you hear me go oh the atmosphere was electric and I know he said the electric thing and then we um yeah we Kenny from South Park hanging out with us we to I finally I got someone to take my helmet off we drove the soap box down to the graveyard thing but they said they weren't going to break it we put it to one side it might be broken and then we had to run up the hill because we had to get on the live stream to do an interview straight afterwards yeah and oh my God you realize how far we came down Running Up That thing that it was 400 to 500 M back up a relatively Steep Hill on a very hot day we were exhausted from the day before and uh being out the night before and having the race and all that kind of stuff and in boiler suits and it was a hot day boiling I got so sweaty at the top we got to the top and we were like that was just a thoroughly unenjoyable experience but it was cool cuz there I heard I don't I think I told you at the time I heard a kid as we ran past he was like oh my God racers felt like an F1 driver in that moment yeah that really went straight to my head yeah I bet we felt a lot cooler than we probably looked just running around in boiler suits and I'm my Red Bull cap on we had shades on surprised he hasn't got that red bull cap on today by the way that thing you're going to have to peel that off his dead body I've been wearing it so much lady just cuz I I love it it's good for green screen stuff that is the one thing I I might start wearing cuts out the wispy hair yeah it cuts out the wispy hair which kind of ruin the illusion I've got that real issue whereas when you wear a cap it's like a smooth round thing and the green screen just looks much better I see my editors have all been like wear a cap as often as possible oh so they even so they tell you what to do huh you're not Char they do interesting well I keep my editors locked away and then I give them footage and they're like please I want to see my family please share an editor now no King yeah we do shout out king great honestly fantastic worker his work ethic he sent me a video and like couple hours later he was like actually here's a V2 I watched it back and I I could see some improvements I was like kind of mentality and he's not been editing for long either yeah so he's I think all selft talk cow's amazing as well they're both just great honestly yeah people listening a fascinated here about how much we love our tives yeah let's get back to the Red Bull so box race so then we did our interview at the very top which is when cuz we went down first so we were Then followed by all the other creators who did the race um we didn't really get to see them at the time cuz we were running up the the bloody Hill but um we got to the top they all slowly joined us did their interview and then it got revealed the scores so there were different categories we were like ranked on or scored on the first being performance and I I'm pretty sure the style of the cart comes into that as well yeah and so we what did we get like what was it 20 22 it was really bad 40 terrible score we got like a seven a six a three and a five something like that whoever gave us a three what's wrong with you huh they were grumpy though cuz I think chip and frezy got something like 39 and the guy that person gave them a nine apparently they were really mean scoring the whole time that's crazy but chip and fzy knew about the performance thing which we I know how they knew about that we had no idea chip and freezy raced as a box of 20 chicken McNuggets yeah and they brought like homemade barbecue sauce and just on each other yeah pry just poured it all over them it was good like as performances go that's like the best thing you can do yeah so they got a really great score like almost perfect just one guy dropped a mark on it um 39 out 40 but I feel like I feel like giving us a three was really harsh I know our performance wasn't great but the music was very fitting yeah and maybe we should have pretended we were on the moon with our jumping or something like walking like that he just had such a cool carard we had so little time to think about it yeah I feel like it was harsh though look at our car that was really cool yeah maybe we were also ranked harshly because we were the first creators to go down maybe maybe we would have got a better score if we were towards the end I don't know yeah maybe but um yeah we did really bad on that and then you get obviously score for your speed in finishing the race yeah which we smashed Everyone by like four four seconds or something or seven or eight yeah like seven or eight seconds Quicks first to second and the second fastest and I think Becky and pieace got a dnf finish either they hit a minute or they stopped completely yeah cuz they went over one of the jumps and then front end broke so the wheel wasn't really like or the front was touching the floor dragging across the floor so they just I felt bad for them they just ped all across but at least they got down in one piece that's the they were just in a pint glass yeah it was really cool and they had a they had a cool performance Becky poured pint on um pie which was funny um con and Jack had a cool performance they just had some Swagger about it like yeah it was cool oh yeah we got picked on the performance but they did struggle getting into the vehicle did they yeah CU it's really hard and narrow to get in um they got they everyone got all the way to the end by the way Colin Jack fell over at the end there thing just went on its side they they chose thinner Wheels I didn't think they were going to make it that far yeah they also had a really high center of gravity cuz their car was thin and quite tall yeah like if you looked at their car it looked like it wanted to fall over it was a bit like chitty chitty bang bang but like elongated yeah so they did really well to and they were drifting it as well it was drifting so they did really well to get to the bottom um but yeah we were like seven seconds quicker than seven or eight seconds quicker than the second fastest which was it chip and freezy or was it Con I think it might have been no chip and frezy was Heavy wasn't it to be fair so that would move um and then there was People's Choice which we said we won 49% and was those were those those three so I think the reason so we ended up coming third we came third out of the four I just think it wasn't like cuz we won two out of three categories you'd think we'd win but I think they gave they were sort of like weighted yeah so because we were so low on the performance us being ahead on the other two bits didn't pull us up enough I think it's really harsh I think it doesn't matter at all by the way I don't I don't care but I do think it's harsh that performance is weighted so heavily in comparison to like speed has got to be the most important thing yeah like it's a race I know that's that's the way we were looking at it that's because it's a race come on we were focus on the race as aspect obviously soap boxes isn't Formula 1 is supposed to be like a bit of fun cretive stuff which you do get um but yeah hard winning two out of three categories and winning the race comfortably well it was more like at in the moment when they were revealing who won out of us four I was thinking in my head oh we've definitely won yeah after winning we got like 50% of the votes for People's Choice so it was a landslide Victory they said and a landslide Victory on the speed so I was thinking we have smashed those two things so surely we've gained loads of points for that yeah and we came third I was like I'm actually quite shocked by that I in my head I was thinking oh my God we've won yeah but um no it was so means anything like there's I don't there's nothing for it yeah I was just surprised but genuinely so it was so good yeah it was it was definitely definitely one of the best things I've ever done I was so glad that we did it I can't wait for the proper video to come out and have it all like a documentary s of documented archive just being like Oh I can look back at that video that was a banger yeah oh it was it was really good um then we stuck around and watched some public racing um and yeah there was it was it was nice there was a nice like area where you could get food and stuff and the worms showed up oh yeah lots of the patreon supporters a couple of N and non patreon people showed up lots of podcast people I'm guessing everyone there was podcast listeners because I didn't really put it on any platform no I think it it was all podcast we spoken about on the on on the podcast and in the patreon group chat quite a lot yeah and that was pretty much it so thank you well regardless if it's yeah thank you guys for coming along cuz it was so nice speaking to everyone great really great to have your support um yeah and yeah you guys were there for most of the day just like stood by our um what do you call it Soap Box stood by our Soap Box we were coming over when we could to say hi and stuff yeah everyone got photos we oh my goodness quite a lot of people wanted us to draw tattoos for them oh dear and we are not artistic no we're close yeah I'm a letter away but I not draw sa in my life and I was like the only thing I could think of was the rocket emoji yeah that was pretty good to be fair I was trying to draw them but getting the three little things at the bottom and the fire I was like I was like show this to your artist and they'll get what I'm trying to draw yeah they'll understand I mean I just ended up drawing flowers CU it's the easiest thing to draw it's got nothing to do with me a lot of art what just happened you just got bored of your own conversation I just yawned I was hoping you take it off me really quickly cuz I yawned no someone asked for a cameo once where they were like can you draw something for us to do a tattoo and I did a a ringed planet oh nice and oh my goodness trying to get cuz obviously if you put the circle there first the ring that goes in front like cuts through lines and it looks crap so you've kind of got to start with the ring but obviously just as the ring curves back around you have to stop and then you have to imagine where the sphere is going to be and oh my goodness I burnt through about half this notebook trying to get one that just looks semi-reasonable so whoever invented Saturn fair enough yeah exactly that must have been difficult and Uranus yep that's also ringed yeah um many too many rings yeah I've got a ring do you oh yeah and that weekend batch proposed to me so I said yes no I'm talking about my ass what anyway um it was it was a different kind of proposition to the one you were thinking of yours is way cuter than mine and I said no oh hell no I just got that that's disgusting cuz I was like on Saturday night we were just chilling we were like go we're exhausted yeah and I was like do you want to just stay around and Bach was like yeah so we played fornite and watch scary movies yeah he took me to get sushi again yeah we went to sticks and Sushi again but I was like I kind of want to make more videos but we were just so tired yeah I it was too late you just what you made me watch horror stuff we we watched a bunch of scary videos on YouTube like real ghost sightings and short horror movies and I was like I've wanted to do videos like that with you ages I was like then was the perfect time but our energy was just shock yeah we'll do it we'll definitely do it another time though CU people just love that love that horror game yeah is entertaining to watch other people get scared people don't want to watch you have fun they want to watch you cringe and be scared people enjoyed us having fun of Minecraft true but you were scared of I died like five six times I'm not very good clearly everyone's making fun of me did I die once I didn't I don't think no but your spirit died at one point hell no my spirit my spirit was always my spirit were through the roof um when I was getting attacked by Leona Lewis and I was hiding in the house turns out Leona Lewis can't go in water so I should have just gone in water I saw that comment yeah thanks for that thanks for the comment I'm actually going to use that logic and I I already want to film episode three right now do you yeah it was so fun we'll do it this week actually it's so fun like I enjoy playing it we're just loading up M fil although he needs a he needs a setup can we can we tell this boy to put some money towards a proper setup he plays on his PlayStation so we have to play Bedrock Edition so I can't use my nice shaders that make the waters and everything look clean and all the like graphics and stuff you know the like it's T's water we're keeping it the graphics upgrades are insane look just just a bit enjoy a humble bit of like Minecraft where it's nostalgic not everything has to be polished yeah okay fine um but no it was it was really good fun and it is it is I do love that we can just do that kind of stuff and just play a game and it would be fun yeah um we can just like high five when we want yeah anyway um back to let's go back in time to um the end of the race he wet himself no he didn't he didn't no he didn't but um I just want to make sure that we covered everything no because we didn't speak about um the stunt the stunts oh yeah you should tell them about the stunt they they just flung on you they didn't tell you until yeah they didn't tell me about this before and they made me sign my rights away yeah and it it was they had already Ked off the live stream so you just had to do it yeah um we basically batch got nice one he got pulled aside and they were like oh is the driver we're testing your reflexes yeah and what did they do they so she dropped a ruler and you just had to grab the ruler um as soon as she dropped it and just see how many centimeters you let drop to judge your reaction time I didn't do I think I came second actually nice but on the practice I failed uh so I was like oh that was nice and peaceful and fun I wonder what mine's going to be and they get me and they they I put this heart monitor on and I was like what they put this heart monitor on me put me in the middle of this cage and this dude called like Douglas or something comes up in this massive dirt bike and just goes like I'll lie down in the middle and I was like I know exactly where this is going got R to me and Jack just start planking and he's sort of in this giant he giant of a man I swear he's like 6'4 in this massive dirt bike and he's sort of there like on one wheel bouncing the like wheel like an inch from my head and I'm like if he just if anything misjudges he crushes my skull yeah like we we we lose one of the Bright Young talents of this generation and you as well wait what do you mean well they'd get Jack and you oh yeah yeah good old Jack and then then he was doing like wheelies around your head like just driving past full speed past his head yeah it was giving me the E actually see lie down there insane and I was just like well I'm playing it cool cuz that's like the name of the game it'd be cringe if I got up and I mean they they even said that if you get up you're at risk of just getting your head whacked cuz he's like an inch within your head so if you move it until you die yeah um and for like a minute he just did this and bounced around and yeah you were down there for a hot minute yeah we were there for ages just getting driven around I thought oh this is just getting this is just cruel now yeah I mean the poor boy is just lying there with a boner by the way uh because he gets that happens when he gets scared just why you think I keep getting you for horror games oh no i h on a Bo so he's just doing circling circling circling around Arthur on the floor it just I just felt a bit sorry for him in the end yeah uh so that was terrifying but good F night you know I'm up for anything I did realized the other day I'm just one of his friends who's just up for thing yeah you are actually someone could be like hey we're going to sit inside and watch movies tonight I be like fine or they can be like come on man we're robbing a bank I'm like cool they'll be like come on going glamping for the weekend do you is that real though if I said or okay let's go and watch the Euros tonight fine let's do it England England this is the last night of the group stage and all of a sudden the mood is really dead because we're just through now we've not played well either it's been pathetic there I said it and Harry Kane when you finally come on this podcast I've got some strong words to have with you mine mine Reserve is Gareth Southgate and not bringing BR and not playing kobby Mayu okay sorry Harry Kane actually way he's playing phenomenally to be not as if we're missing him but I'm mad at you Southgate yeah Italy um not playing too bad oh my goodness you're Italian did you watch the game last night and they scored the 90th plus eight to go through 98th minute it was the draw against Croatia oh that was heartbreaking poor the thing is they probably would have gone through anyway as one of the people third but um it's nice to confirm it you know yeah those moments of elation just so hard I think Italy just like a decent Striker anyway we won't bore you with football because a lot of people probably don't care about football yeah um but yeah I mean I'm getting into F1 now yes you are you watch drive to survive right yeah I've been watching drive to surv I need to get on that I really want to watch that um and hence why the Red Bull so box race I was really in I was really in my element Because You Loved does it make you love Red Bull as well the driver to survive does it follow a particular team it follows the mall and to be honest I haven't really got like a team I really um it's not like I really want to see this team win it's more people that you care about it's good to see Red Bull doing well but um I like Lando do you yeah you're Lando Norris enjoyer I'm a Lando enjoyer I like them all to be fair from what I've seen I like I get I like Char all oh cuz he kind he kind of looks like Charles mclair uh yeah I get uh Lando Norris a lot people always say like L nor I'm not sure about that boy and uh obviously like V stappen red the Red Bull goat what batch V stappen high five what does that even mean batch for steppen me batch for steppen batch for steppen me instead of Max for Sten batch for Sten it's one of the only times that batch really goes into anything batch for Sten what do people nickname you at school get tuna boy cuz I've brought in tuna fish boy uh right I was going duckling I was going for more names like name related like okay because I was oh name related I was I was called nothing I was just called Arthur I don't know why I said it like that I was called Nothing me yeah had no friends at school no I didn't really people would say ice as a joke ice yeah I just I didn't like not having a cool nickname name my sister one of my sisters calls me Izzy that's really cringe and feminine yo she watches these which is fine yo she watches these apologize down the lens right now I apologize nothing cuz it is it was true it was my truly held opinion and you should never apologize for being yourself sometimes she calls me Elizabeth as well what and I don't really know where she got that from she started that was a good what what yeah she watches it where she works as she was working she'll have it on Gizzy by the way I didn't get cancelled for what Sunday came out where I waterboarded Chris I haven't watched that and I was seriously worried I was genuinely like I thought you know just some people on the internet can be real yeah cuz they might be like oh you're making fun of water boarding people actually die from water boarding that's not what I exactly what I meant oh because okay you can't waterboard Chris because he doesn't like water and some people have been drowned before no okay of course because because you shouldn't do water boarding because it's like saying this is something you should it's really on impressionable fans and they'll be like okay I'm going to water board my mom tonight right maybe maybe that was like oh you shouldn't do that on to an impression I'm going to cancel you right now in that case um but no I I I just thought people would be like oh that was so mean of him they're not friends like just you know when you don't really know I mean obviously anyone who's seen Chris and videos knows how much abuse he puts me through I mean that guy abuse shs down on my neck like there's no tomorrow he's just I I'll just be chilling mid shootting he'll just go on my traps I mean granted they're juicy like they're nice muscular defined um have you ever thought you might just be a vampire I don't know hiding in plain sight you know you've got two Pierce marks right there you getting sucked by you've got really garlicky breath so I don't think I could be a a vampire cuz otherwise let's not start rumors like that otherwise I'd run there's not start rumors like that yeah my breath smells like daisies rainbows fairy tales I'm always chewing gum you are always chewing gum you're a real gum chewer yeah it Bo it boosts your confidence it's like putting a pair of sunglasses on I'm glad you don't do it on the podcast that would be the most annoying thing to listen to I have done it before but I just tuck it into my teeth like snz you don't mean that it's gum you don't mean that it's gum it's just weird you don't mean that it's gum gum started freaking out you know we were speaking about eggs the other day when you you're Midway through eating heads and you're like wait up yeah that's a period something ain't right that's a menstrual cycle raor and you're like yeah well that weirdly makes me like it more it's more than I knew you were a feminist me too come on yeah um we do like to bring awareness to the fact that women exist and have Cycles cuz I I I mentioned menstrual cycles all the time and I in one of my YouTube videos I was like I've got to stop saying menstrual cycles drop a comment if you think I should stop saying menual cycle everyone's like no and someone's like no it actually feels kind of feminist in a weird way cuz you're bringing light to the fact of cuz not everyone knows that women have I think everyone knows women have periods I found out 3 days ago watching your video you thought they had penis what I just thought they merely existed they merely exist in a in a realm Between Heaven and Hell where somewhere I love doesn't exist what the hell is this guy talking about women only exist in heaven women are heaven on Earth in my opinion how does that song Go heaven heaven for what it's worth women are heaven on Earth women are heaven on Earth brother in Christ you don't know what you're talking about right now I feel like we're getting on to Serious brain rot have you got anything else this is a rare batch prepared actually been praying preparing a lot um all of the episodes lately we've actually yeah hence why the quality's increased um no you just you do stuff in a different way I like like reading and talking reading well next episode's prepared by by Arthur and we'll be filming this directly after this one yeah we're doing complet transparency cuz batch is way on holiday and I'm going to be honest because I'm not I've not brought a spare pair of clothes anyway yeah me neither I don't want to hear no comments like why is he wearing that shirt again well they should be comenting CU alth this on an episode before quite frankly Arthur is either can I just say by the way I predicted what you were going to be wearing on the Red Bull meal I said Arthur will turn up in Black corduroy shorts um and a cream beige top shirt either worn as an overshirt with a white t-shirt underneath or just a shirt that's exactly what you were that's true I mean I have two other pairs of shorts I had a black like pair that were like had textured but the waistband thing snapped hard to find a good pair of shorts and then I had a nice like cream beige pair yeah um but they were just like I don't know linen and just ended up being a bit too and take it from a guy a sleepover with him he doesn't take them off he showers in them he goes me to take them off he was like take them off take them off take them off and I was like leave me alone yeah I was like please wash please wash you were just misreading me I wasn't saying take them off I was like please wash please wash anyway I I got the um I went into the patreon chat o uh little plug if you want to join the patreon go ahead there's a chat you get early access to episodes they get uploaded all the time and Bullies me in it yeah I do speak in there a fair amount um and I said to them we're filming two pods today can you guys reply to this message with any questions you have about the Red Bull Soapbox race we're going to be doing a whole episode on it uh because I thought there might be you know they might want to know more information on how it was built or how we were feeling and stuff and we could just give us some insight to that we've just explained the day how cool it was blah blah blah but they want to know the BTS let's see how insightful their questions can be okay did you hurt your nose that's [ __ ] rude no I didn't that obviously pointed at you no I didn't to be fair I did we had said in an episode prior that there was no foam and we are going to smash our faces in they put foam in we had good helmets on but we didn't actually crash so yeah we didn't crash so although his coxic bone is in pain yeah my coxics I'm absolutely fine because I'm not weak that's your tailbone um may ask for us highly evolved Apes that was from Brooke by the way I'll say names shout outs May says how SL why did you decide to build a rocket why I guess cuz it's very on brand for us have a look at our mugs yep yeah I mean we're just we're were're a Spacey themed podcast for no apparent reason we genely I'm sure we said in the earlier episodes we had no plans to be themed and bats just randomly one day went let's just make it space themed I just think it's cool yeah me I just think we both think it's cool we do we just need a cool set I think most of the things we do is because we think oh that's cool like the Soap Box we thought oh it'd be cool if we did a a ship or a ufi yeah just cuz it just cuz it's funny someone actually messaged in for the next one I've got like the submissions from the normal submissions page which everyone can enter just go to our any of our socials at Bach and arur and in the link there's like a a link tree and one of them is the submissions form and they were like what is your target audience because I can't really figure it out and I'm studying media at the moment target audience is such a big thing and I was like we don't have one we just come on talk about whatever we find interesting yeah and just hope that some people agree yeah and the people who do listen are actually very um diverse yeah and intelligent and cool and good looking and all this yeah um so yeah no um yeah and it's weird because we're not sitting there going oh let's talk about this to appeal to this audience which I think is I mean somehow it works so thank you guys for tuning into thanks cuz I think if you analyzed it in like a media class and it was like oh one minute you're doing brain rot meme references and the next you're talking about s men and then the next we're talking about Greek philosophy and the next one like Roman Parables and then religion they'd be like well someone's going to listen to the one episode like it and then not like the rest yeah but for some reason people just like listening to it all really I think we just decided that we're just going to do what we want like yeah whatever we enjoy yeah like whatever we enjoy and whatever we F feel like talking about we're just going to do it because if you want to enjoy something you've like if you want this if we want this podcast to continue we've got to enjoy it and if we're looking at it tactically like Oh Let's do an episode on this so we can boost our audience in this demographic it will start to feel like a like a real job well like you know I've heard from other people that do podcasts that their producers will be like today you're having this guest on and they're like well I've never watched the show they're on or Never follow them don't care about the story but I've got to do it's nice that we kind of have a just able to just go oh whatever and I do think the stuff we talk about is interesting broadly like if you're someone who like whenever we meet or speak to anyone who watches the podcast they're always like oh I love like these types of interesting discussions I feel like if you have a generally curious mind yeah like if if people who are listening to this and enjoy it are going to be similar to us in that respect and they you know even if they don't have a an interest in any of the particular like they might be like oh I love hearing about religion I'm a curious person but they don't care about Greek philosophy yeah or anything when we speak about the ship of thesis they're still like oh it's an interesting thought like it's an interesting thought so if you're one of those types of people like us then all that kind of stuff is interesting I guess thus our our demographic is people who just have similar interests to us yeah or like have a similar outlook on life or yeah that's the thing it's not even like it's just it's the broad value of curiosity I think who just like they like to laugh they like a bit of Comedy cuz we even get people who disagree with us and they're like oh I'm religious I completely disagree with this all but it was so interesting to listen to and so they're not listening because we're speaking about things that they find um they agree with or they enjoy you know but they're going like oh like I like the way these topics are approached or the way this is discussed and yeah so yeah hopefully we'll try and keep that up um hey no way we're going to brain Rock 24/7 after here or no anyway um Connie asked what was your top speed we don't actually know but what did you think it was 30 well when we passed we passed the speed gate at what will be one of the fastest points and that was 30 okay mil K yeah km pH um Leia says do you think you were going to make it to the Finish Line did you think you were going to make it to the Finish Line I genuinely um did not think we were going to make it past the chicane to be honest yeah cuz I didn't realize the course was as wide as it was however the as narrow as it was you mean actually yeah yes and no the thing is it's like driving a car when you're in a car it looks like you're you're bigger than the road but actually you can fit in much smaller of a gap than you expect yourself to be able to and so when you're actually in the soap box when we were doing the chicane in my head I thought we're going to catch one of the hay bals and go flying but actually although it was actually pretty close watching it back it felt like I had enough room to get round and stuff well two hay bals we did fully slic through well yeah if the wings were like flat fronted we would have we could have just spun out flown but because the wings were just like yeah we the first one and then the second one we through that yeah um but in no I didn't think we were going to make it down in one piece to be honest I thought either we'd get to the end and there' be damage or we'd fall over at the end or we just wouldn't make it to the end cuz it's not a like it more often than not you don't make it to the end yeah so I thought statistically I didn't I didn't think we were going to make it to the end so I was surprised were you or not it's so funny because at the start you're like I really don't know but be when you're going down it's so fast and you've got to think a lot like yeah I was just constantly thinking like just monitoring whether we were going too fast or not to be like bring the speed down ever so slightly and it's everything's happening so fast you don't have time to think oh are we going to make it like any hypotheticals it's just uh pull the break break on break off break off oh my goodness are we going to make this corner are we going to too fast at how are we doing like all this kind of stuff's rushing through your head I didn't even think about it I was no so yeah I had no thoughts in my head either I think we were just on reflex at that point yeah because every yeah like Arthur said everything's coming at you so quick like before the chane I thought I had enough time to put my hand up and wave and I was like [ __ ] no I don't yeah so that's when I came back onto the wheel and did that so we really don't have much time in that thing um then Phoenix asks what was the hardest and easiest part of the creative process oh hard po was coming up with an idea for what we wanted to do as the car because we took ages like they were asking us for the design for so long and we were like we really don't know it is hard when you can do literally anything it's like the classic situation where you've got too much Choice yeah so you can't make a decision and neither necessarily creative creative types yeah so we and also it's it's difficult as well when there's two people because obviously if one person wants to do something we we agreed yeah we we didn't have any friction on what we wanted to do we because we both didn't really have an idea but you've got to make sure that what one person comes up with the other person's happy to do um but I think from the go we just suggested either a space shuttle or UFO we were both happy with those two ideas and then we had a look at some pictures and we thought okay let's go for a space sh that was it yeah so I think that um it was hard in the beginning but to to be honest the decision process was pretty easy for us in the end I do think the hardest part although that was hard I think what was harder for us was probably um building the chassis don't you think it was harder than the woodwork yeah that's probably true cuz we didn't have any engineer assistance with the underly car yeah the actual chassis itself we just had bits like we didn't have instructions for half of it we were in in a big Warehouse with just a bunch of nuts bolts rods	flying but actually although it was actually pretty close watching it back it felt like I had enough room to get round and stuff well two hay bals we did fully slic through well yeah if the wings were like flat fronted we would have we could have just spun out flown but because the wings were just like yeah we the first one and then the second one we through that yeah um but in no I didn't think we were going to make it down in one piece to be honest I thought either we'd get to the end and there' be damage or we'd fall over at the end or we just wouldn't make it to the end cuz it's not a like it more often than not you don't make it to the end yeah so I thought statistically I didn't I didn't think we were going to make it to the end so I was surprised were you or not it's so funny because at the start you're like I really don't know but be when you're going down it's so fast and you've got to think a lot like yeah I was just constantly thinking like just monitoring whether we were going too fast or not to be like bring the speed down ever so slightly and it's everything's happening so fast you don't have time to think oh are we going to make it like any hypotheticals it's just uh pull the break	5	8	3	flying but actually although it was actually pretty close watching it back it felt like I had enough room to get round and stuff well two hay bals we did fully slic through well yeah if the wings were like flat fronted we would have we could have just spun out flown but because the wings were just like yeah we the first one and then the second one we through that yeah um but in no I didn't think we were going to make it down in one piece to be honest I thought either we'd get to the end and there' be damage or we'd fall over at the end or we just wouldn't make it to the end cuz it's not a like it more often than not you don't make it to the end yeah so I thought statistically I didn't I didn't think we were going to make it to the end so I was surprised	were you or not it's so funny because at the start you're like I really don't know but be when you're going down it's so fast and you've got to think a lot like yeah I was just constantly thinking like just monitoring whether we were going too fast or not to be like bring the speed down ever so slightly and it's everything's happening so fast you don't have time to think oh are we going to make it like any hypotheticals it's just uh pull the break	3,4,5	8,-2,6	3	4	5	8	-2	6
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0g_xJvKEb8	4,108	-0g_xJvKEb8	2024-06-27 00:00:00	[Music] what's up everybody welcome back to episode 14 of the batch and Arthur podcast yay go thanks for joining everyone we have something to reveal yes we do I know you guys don't like it when Arthur has his mug on the couch because he tends to drop things don't you never dropped anything actually okay you dropped that th done remember that well you might have noticed I also have my mug on the sofa mhm wondering why who wants to know why should we tell them something to do with one like equals one Lara maybe something to do with that exactly you guys ready see what you reveal go way for audio listeners we have white mugs with our little cartoon characters on them that's right little will I didn't want to Cheers you and I've got my little handsome space guy come on yeah Lara surprised us with these this is a gift um mine shatterproof as well apparently oh it's not sh yeah he's got a plastic mug because we know what he's like I've sippy C the audio listeners actually little rubber cppy cup with two handles well actually when Arthur drinks from a mug show them how you do it I'll I'll commentate for this he uses two hands so he grabs on the like handle and then he grabs the other hand I drink everything with two hands especially tea and Pints yeah I don't really know what is there a reason for that or not safety I guess twice as balanced is that really if one arm stops working the other one's there as a fail safe well there you go that's why he does it guys so it makes sense all after all yeah um speaking of batch and Arthur this podcast design right here yeah this has been plasted on something recently what our rocket ship oh yeah guys we just got back from the Red Bull Soap Box race and we're alive 2024 we genuinely were not sure we were going to survive no I was but we did really scared we we turned up we got to see other people's cards um and there was basically two things going on so there's like a public race and then the Creator race was like a separate thing which is streamed on YouTube If you go on Red Bull's um YouTube channel and you go on under the live tab you can actually watch the full thing yeah we were like a half time race yeah it was Bas half time show yeah there was a few people who weren't happy about the Creator's uh racing cuz they thought we were mixed in with the public but it's like a whole separate thing like we can't win any awards over the public or anything like that yeah um but but we won the hearts of the public come on yeah we did win the hearts of the public there was a a couple of things that you were like rated on as creators and one of them was People's Choice and we got a landslide victory of 44% yeah it actually ended up on 49% 50% out of four teams we got 49 everyone rounds 49 thank you to everyone who voted for us we one of four teams but we're up against chip and freezy who have a big loving audience Becky and pieace who audience and then con from the siden huge loving audience and the guy who's our cameraman on the train video the siden that's right Jack was there as well went to with con they had cool out but uh we we got to Ali p uh that's my first time there you've been there before actually I think we should start the day before okay let's let's reel that [ __ ] back because we had another sleepover kind of yeah we did have another let's just say oh no we didn't really a hotel yeah we did not have a sleepover but what did we do where did we first meet we we met at the we met at the hotel at the hotel dropped our bags off Adam was there he's the Red Bull guy that was been looking after us and he took all the creators out to dinner yeah we to find the tell first yeah chopped a pint um both hands come on yeah then we got in a taxi we went to dinner we had a create a dinner um what did you eat pizza yeah I had a really really hot hot pizza but the thing I was enjoying the most was the football we had a massive screen in front of us oh yeah cuz France were playing Netherlands NE scen I felt kind of harsh cuz the the table was positioned in a way that only half of us could see the football and the other half were just watching us watching football yeah but no he they were watching a react video basically they got to see us live reacting In the Flesh um but the meal was really good the food was really good uh Jake was struggling Jake the guy works with um Arthur they both got the same Pizza he was struggling with the heat yeah he was [ __ ] [ __ ] struggling with the Pint as well got two pints steep was steaming no cuz he was so in denial Jake yeah Jake had a couple pints and he was gone we were like you are drunk he like I am not drunk and he was getting angry mad I'm not even drunk he's I haven't even done anything later he's doing karaoke so that's belting out karaoke with his phone to the to the mic with with voice note on my God it's so that was you singing those Tunes to someone yeah we yeah CU you've been to a place before should we say the name of the place or not I actually I don't remember it anyway okay we went to this place anyway Arthur's been there before it's um like a karaoke bar with uh like an arcade and bowling and there's a dance floor and like a bar and stuff like that yeah very good fun we all went there did some karaoke went there for Arthur Hill's birthday that's how I found out about it what a place it is a cool place actually um yeah did a bit of karaoke we were in there for a couple hours doing karaoke in the end yeah um belting at tunes by the way batch can sing No Arthur can sing yeah but I think people would assume that from but that goes without saying no but but Frank Sinatra came on and oh my goodness batch was just cooking that thing anyone can sing Frank arra welcome back Frank Sinatra he died and this is him reborn wasn't wasn't he heavily involved with the mafia Frank Sinatra so are you you're a quter Italian that's true but I can't admit that no not legally anyway oops they're going to come and get me try and come and get me watch me beat beat you all up actually I shouldn't say what if they do don't come and get me please I was just kidding I've got nothing to do with him he lives on 32 Italian back street oh my god that actually is my house number H what don't say that it's not that's my apartment number as well no we you're not finding out where we live um I'm going to move in with Arthur anyway we moved in together on Minecraft yeah sort of anyway back to karaoke we had fun at karaoke then we went home we didn't get back till 3:00 a.m. silly move because we had to be up early yeah we had it well not that early we had 10: a.m. taxi picks up yeah but we met at breakfast at 9:30 it was the most romantic breakfast of my life yeah um and then stayed at the Hilton Red Bull of class they put us in there they also like what a lovely experience not only did they take us to dinner they they paid for karaoke and everything like that they covered everything shout out to Red Ball I'm going to crack One open right now and they're actually delicious all these colored red balls my actual favorite is the summer edition you guys should actually try this this is not sponsored but I'm just saying this is not even the first thing I I did I went to salburg in Austria and did some Red Bull salburg video shooting with Chris MD um we did like penal sh outs in games with mads bistrup for their YouTube channel and then did a video in it was the the final one of christed uh every time you beat a Defender the defender gets upgraded that's right yeah and we start off with like Harry R Shaw as the worst Defender when all the way up to Champions League mads bistr who fantastic player I mean yeah you realize how like when you watch t uh football on TV you think oh I could do that yeah but then if you see a actual Pro in real life yeah like that makes sense why you went pro now actually we need to do more charity so that was fun that was fun there are a lot going on it's just timings cuz there's so many things going on during summer and that's usually when charity matches go down yeah but you got to work in the schedules either you're away or I'm away or there's a brand trip or something has to be submitted in time was crazy yeah but um no I'm sure we're going to do a lot more stuff with Red Bull as well so that's exciting um but anyway we then got the taxi to Alex Alexandra Palace Ali pal come on and um I've only just realized that's why it's Ali P really yeah I just thought that Ali P was the hill and Alexandre Palace was no way Ali now I've just heard it okay that's Ali P right anyway U you almost did a off the TV intro that right right so then we uh we got into the race so no we got into the Zone where the race was going on yeah and we got to have a little scout out all the public submitted soap boxes some really cool stuff in there yeah although there was one weird one because we rock up and there are like four girls gathered around water is essentially a double bed one girl just tucked up and you back like oh this is cool and she was like yeah it's really cozy get in we were like no I I ain't doing all that I'm sure though that you know that wasn't actually her like lying in it yeah I know you could tell something was weird under the covers but I was not getting involved what what what the hell um oh you can't see my soundboard I've got to pull this back so I can soundboard here yeah he hasn't got a soundboard yet thank goodness although I should no they all see the comments by the way Lara and Arthur see the comments and Lara even said into the group chat she was like I think we need to get bat of soundboard because of all the comments she sent me a message being like listen we've got one purchase a year we can authorize either we get cool mugs or batch gets a soundboard and I was like mugs mugs oh hell no I just think it's so much funnier when you do it yourself and go to I do think so but this is going to get worn down and eventually there's going to be a Hole uh oh audio listeners don't know what I'm doing I I just I pretend there's a soundboard and I just push the sof and make my I do it as well I do it in real life I'll be speaking to people when I'm BR but it doesn't make his much sense in real life just in a conversation he's just air poking stuff as he goes brh you know what's so funny as well I showed batch this someone one of you guys one of our listeners because cuz I you do it quite a lot but I do it all the time at you do the what yeah what that thing someone did a Tik Tok called whatting people in public so she goes into this petrol station goes to pay she goes like how much is that and he goes like Oh 1350 and she just goes what loud so loud just yells it in this man's face and everyone was like bad bad you guys have to recreate this it was so funny yeah and then Arthur was like we've got to do this we've got I don't know if I have the like what is it um social confidence to do that I'd be able to do it not yell it I thought it was a bit rude though the loud yelling not in a bad I'm not criticizing you I just able to do that like that myself I'd be like what I think sorry you got no no soup of the day what what when you have a camera on you though that you get a new found confidence in public like I found no no no in general I don't know if you agree with this in like a sidan video I Feel Like rules don't apply like social rules then don't apply cuz you've got a camer on you and you can do what you want whatever you want yeah I've only recently started being able to finally find it within myself to Vlog like when we were at wagas I was like this is actually fine yeah whereas before IID look at people vlogging in public and I go I admire you a lot cuz I can never do that it helps having people around you yeah although I feel like we do it with our phones it's a bit easier that's true whereas if people with their cameras out like facing their way I'm like oh my goodness I'd be so embarrassed yeah I think I would be as well especially if you got like a big rig on the end of that thing people are just admiring you your rig yeah both of them come on anyway um what speaking of the soap boxes that we saw um there was this one there was like these four guys like lying down chilling and they had this like Dome oh yeah which was kind of like a I guess like a spa you know the space shuttles that come down to earth it kind of looked a bit like that didn't yeah um like a landing module yeah like a landing module and they what did what did they make it off fiberglass or something yeah oh my God you could smell it from where we were still and they were like stick your head in that so we stuck it you stuck your head in first took a whiff and I did it afterwards oh my God dizzying genuinely dizzying I'm high I'm still high from that moment if anyone's ever been in like a a surfboard shop where they like make the surfboards yeah it smells like that it just smell exactly like that and they bizarre I just burped on I thought that was what that was that was disgusting hopefully that didn't get picked up apologize sorry guys sorry if you heard that cut that out anyway um it's not getting cut uh it they had to spend the whole run down in that thing so I think those guys are a little bit waved yeah I'm glad we I'm glad we were just a team of two and had two seats because I kind of felt bad some people that pushed the Soap Box thing down yeah like running after it for like 50 meters and it was a hot day that's true like um most people was like a team of four and two would push two would be in it I think that's standard isn't it to have two people in the so box and then a team that will push and Chase it down probably chase down chip and freezies yeah funny it was funny as well the way he was running because I guess it was like a it was like Looney Tunes the way he had his arms up like that chasing them down to be fair there are people I felt more bad for he talking about some of the injuries of the day oh my God and this is the thing like good gosh man we were already nervous then we were then we got to S see our um vehicle which they had made some mods to by the way so put me at ease a little bit they put foam in the place where my head would smash oh yeah so I felt about that yeah um they didn't they were going to cut out the wheel arches so we could turn more but they didn't I'm glad they I actually think that worked in our favor in it did um and they were actually slagging it off when it went up on towards stage they were speaking about it on Mike and they were like they can't turn properly they can't see over it and I was thinking oh no they're slagging off our thing they were talking about our buckets on the back and stuff I don't know if they were slagging off the buckets or just speaking about I just heard bucket like they're talking about ours oh my god um but it actually worked in favor and then there was screens up showing the first runs and it took a while it like an hour or two after we got there till the first run um but did you see the Sheep one no I didn't see any of the big ones but that's a bad one there was a sheep we I was watching a sheep go down um it was just before you did your stunt I think and it got all the way to the end and then at full speed flipped over onto their necks and I think it was one of them that broke their collarbone and it looked awful and after seeing that me and pieace was stood together we were like I we genuinely don't want to go down after seeing that he was [ __ ] it I was [ __ ] it um and then not only that I think other people must have like been bruised or whatever but the other big one that we heard about is we when we got to the start line we were there waiting for like 10 minutes and it was cuz the person who went down before us got knocked out so that's crazy yeah which I didn't see I don't think we'll ever see any footage of that but I don't know what vehicle it was or anything I just heard that they got knocked out that's why we were up there for ages yeah I mean it was going down insanely fast yeah it look I mean it looks quick on camera but it doesn't look nearly as quick as it feels yeah when you're in that thing oh my goodness and you can barely see in front of you you're bouncing all over the place you're hitting these jumps there are bits where there's foam that like splashes you in the face you have a few seconds of blindness yeah it's mental it it to best describe it definitely feels faster than sitting in a car at 60 MPH I'd say faster than it feels sitting in a car going 100 yeah cuz you're so exposed to we've never gone 100 I've been on the auto bar in Germany okay fair um but yeah you're exposed so it just feels so quick but we were quick insanely Qui insanely quick I think everyone we were the first of the creators to go up everyone thought we were going to just crash yeah or just be crap and slow there was so many comments so many DMs I got afterward was like [ __ ] fair enough before we even went down though before we get cuz we we will react we'll show you us going down yeah but I think we should tell them actually maybe should we hit play and then we'll pause at certain bits to be like explainer yeah I'll tell you what it plays it goes all the way through and then they do it in slow-mo afterwards we can on the slow-mo we'll do some explanation okay here we go batch and Arthur we had the podcast sticker oh it was such a good sticker on the side which was really cool and they zoomed in out loads for the YouTube video which is great yeah was all over the stream which was ideal although you cannot see podcast there until someone shads over it yeah someone's just shattering we were stood up there for ages genuinely yeah because someone had just been knocked out looking down this hill that was just so steep it's not funny but look at that thing that's so impressive it's so well built I can't believe it and I'm I'm gutted because I actually wanted to say to the we had a little bit of help from the Red Bull Engineers yeah I wanted to say thank you to them more just be like what did you see that that was really good yeah if anyone knows anything by any chance please pass on our thanks because yeah they they helped us hopefully they watched it and saw a great deal uh but we did do a lot I mean we did spend two full days building this thing and printing it up and stuff so yeah which you'll obviously see in the Vlog I'll talk about I'll talk about something later cuz there's um this was posted to Tik Tok and there's some funny comments on there really basically yeah basically calling us desk dwellers what so this is our performance so this performance we didn't know we no was supposed to do we we were told to choose a piece of music so we chose something like Space Odyssey style but we had no idea that meant we had to perform yeah and like like she's saying like there are points for performance and we knew about 10 minutes beforehand that this 30 second period of Music we'd have to Performance so we were like let's just do something simple gum shields in the mouth bow and get in and they were harsh they gave us a three but that also also counts to the way the vehicle looks so I think three is Harsh yeah but here we go performance score 22 poor but this is when we started racking up speed the steering was really weird as well cuz it changed as we got quicker and we were just bouncing as we went down like we'd hit a ramp and oh my goodness like almost front flipped that around we Whi around the corner and our our genuine one of our wings like clipped a ha Bell and just sliced through it that one sliced through the hay Bell I was thinking as we came down I swear I would have hit that side had I not hit that side and then nailed the braking and you said you could smell burnt rubber when you were breaking on that thing cuz I was like tickling the brakes like before a jump every now and then I do one all as we approached the chicane I pulled it yeah um but they said as we were going down in the commentary like yeah oh this feels fast usually you're hitting like low 20s here and it comes up on the side and we're hitting 30 km an hour yeah we were going and we were oh my goodness I'm glad you didn't break touch the break though we didn't need it yeah yeah I mean you did a did a little bit but I mean the others obviously touched it a lot more yeah I basically kept us at a speed where I was like this is very close to the line of like where we can make this corner at the speed because at the end of the day as a race and I was like we don't want to get up at the end and just be like oh like a couple of the soite boxes made it halfway down and just like stopped completely yeah and they were like having to like like I don't know like Shake It Forward it's so awkward like we did speak and we did say we'd actually rather crash going pretty quick than come to a grinding hle because it's just not good material yeah like we did it for Content wants to see that it's for a video we know representing creators at half time yeah so many people watching we've got a space shuttle that is designed at a velocity of 17,000 500 mph yeah so we were like you know hitting to be honest when they gave us those uh cuz we asked for special helmets that covered the face yeah when they gave me that I felt invincible and I thought oh [ __ ] it and we had gum Shields that we like ped poured into boiling water molded them before and molded them so we we felt pretty safe yeah I mean but still at 30 we weren but I don't have miles hour or kilm an hour I think it was mph I actually do really yeah but whatever it is at 30 like genuinely like just whacking your head against something solid is well I mean someone did get knocked out and broke it was terrifying yeah they they then do a slow-mo okay let's watch the slow-mo and we can break down exactly because I was thinking there was a point in the chicane when we really Whi round I was thinking why did that happen it was because the back right wheel wasn't on the ground when we were coming up to the chicane so when it touched the the ground it turned us into a corner so I was like [ __ ] and I had to spin it around one way and then back around the other way oh that's why we had that major wobble yeah and you can see it it's like it's cuz one of the wheels wasn't on the ground okay let's let's watch and like in the first one we'll try and go for the audio listeners kind of describe what we're seeing yeah so the first jump yeah we it was a heavy a heavy bit of Kit as well we definitely had one of the heavier ones it and it was like so we got through here the back that wheel wasn't on the ground so like had to correct it well the chicane of just having to go really quick left and then really quick right after yeah and then this pit we hit a bunch of stairs and bch basically grinds on the right hand of them it's cuz afterwards we had to be on the right hand side so I was thinking I can't turn directly after I'm going to have to turn on the ramp like the CL the the course is split in two with like steps on the left and straight on the right and we go down the steps but like half dangling off yeah you have a choice whether to do jumps or not obviously we were going to do the jumps cuz you get docked time um no they add time on if you go round cuz it's a bit unfair yeah but we you were just like let's head it yeah and after the first jump it it looks like we really jump around I don't know about you but in it it didn't feel that bad I I think I'm the exact opposite cuz I was going flying and my bum still Hur May was our positioning or cuz I was holding on to this when yeah I had nothing to hold on to I was just sat on a blue seat I re yeah I reckon that's what it was cuz it kept me like sort of planted you fix and you're in the center so with us like when when you go off the Jump the nose sort of goes down yeah it did and then the back col kicks up into the air and then slams down and because I'm at the back you really got you know I've got a lot further to fall and I just got whacked and my butt like when I sit on the sofa like no I can feel it bruised on I was actually un unscared I was absolutely fine yeah God it was um after that first jump though I got a lot more confidence in the run I was thinking oh that was fine I can we can do all the [ __ ] jumps yeah I just got full speed no I rate it I'm so glad you just sent it cuz and you I mean you didn't have a choice sending it yeah you just you na yeah exactly you could SL down but uh I they miked us did they mic you up CU they miked me up but I said nothing the whole run yeah why would you you couldn't because the thing is I was so focused I think it's because we went so quick because there's a Red Bull posted a video on their Tik Tok page where because they miked up chip and freezy and um it's off chip speaking to freezy and he's like on the brakes off the brakes okay we're going to go around this now and I think it's CU they were using the brakes and communicating about the brakes that they had stuff to say but because we were just you told me before you weren't going to touch the brake so I thought okay he's really not there's no point saying anything and you know whether it's a Brak or not so I was just thinking I'm just going to drive I was literally only thinking like I'm only going to slow us down if I feel like at this speed we either can't hit that jump properly or can't go around the corner and I was just tickling it and it was only at the end like I was like I've got to wait until we cross the finish line before I can break and I just Ram it and because it was a friction break it's like literally a metal bar that just pulls down onto both of the rear wheels it just starts smelling like burning rubber actually nailed that was so good though cuz we literally landed after that last jump we landed and I was like [ __ ] the Finish is right there and all I could hear was I just knew he pulled that thing so hard we came around the corner and didn't touch a single thing because he broke just in time yeah and the thing was untouched like the they said they it could get sent back to one of us so I send it to my house um I got I didn't tell you this yet I got a DM from someone saying I'm just about to watch your soap box get destroyed what no it's been graveyard we took it to a graveyard but we put it to one side no they told us we could have it uh yeah oh the guy might be lying I I pray he is cuz that's so harsh but I saw it in the DM request I was like [ __ ] surely not we should M message Adam but I think a big part of the reason we couldn't speak or do much else is because we weren't so full s we did that in 36 seconds chip and freezy were the second fastest in our group I think and they were 44 seconds yeah so we were we were literally seven or eight seconds I mean I don't exactly know what their milliseconds were but we were seven or eight seconds faster than them and I mean the difference like you watch them go down and they're sort of doing a decent speed but I thought them being go- karters you know they've got their Senor frogs they race every year yeah I was like they're going to bomb it too yeah but they kind of just played it relatively safe I mean good time time but like I do think we we absolutely Center and we had this guy come up to us at the end like should you say yeah say and this guy comes up to us and go don't like freak out now or anything um but we're checking because we genuinely think this was one of the fastest of all time yeah like fastest soap boxes ever he thought we hit the world record run right there and then and they cuz they had to check them by the millisecond yeah and we were a fraction of a second off being the fastest ever 1 18 of a second something something ridiculous like that and uh so I think we were either the second or the third fastest of all time yeah there were rumors at the end of the day and I don't know whether it was Chip just winding us up being like the last car of the day was slightly faster yeah they they yeah they said something like the last car of the day actually broke the world record so if that is true we're the third fastest of all time if not we are the second fastest of all time to go down that track and we rather the second of the first fastest of this year's event which is just just the coolest thing ever like we to be fair have also like we couldn't have picked a design that was Better Built For Speed I mean it's so people were saying this is this is aerodynamic and I was thinking it is but I don't think it's going to make that much of a difference in this yeah scenario and whether it did or not or whether it was just the fact that you didn't break much yeah I think that was it it was quite heavy it was heavy as well you had one of the heavy ones so at the start you can tell this was one of the things we were saying we should have got two people cuz we only got Jake to shove us at the start yeah and when when you start off just going down the ramp it took us a while to pick up speed if we had sort of been shoved and started at a really good pace and kept it at that pace I genely think we could have built the record but I'm I want to do it again same that's why I wanted to keep that cuz we could have just modified that and send it down we know that's a winning formula yeah make it into a submarine or something yeah exactly that thing works but Red Bull like they they we had such a great time with them they did so much for us and we were so grateful and we were speaking see nothing guaranteed and stuff um but they were saying there's a potential for us to come back and maybe do the one that you know you launch off a ramp and you're like 10 m up whatever and you've got to Glide over water as far as possible there and there are loads of other sort of like cool Red Bull events and stuff to do so um yeah I think we make this a thing if we can do just more of this stuff yeah I loved it it was genuinely one of the best things I've ever done I think yeah and there's a the the the only annoying thing is there's so much footage it's going to take a while to get the video together because Red Bull have Clips we have clips they've sent us a hard driver clipse I've got stuff on my phone B has stuff on his phone Jake has stuff on his phone so we'll gather it all together but when the video comes out I think it'll be such a good one because so good the whole experience was just the coolest thing ever and we couldn't be more grateful to Red Bull for that the perfect run at the end we just ended it so perfectly the whole experience I think yeah it couldn't have gone better afterwards I so cool yeah I couldn't get the helmet off though we got to the very end I could not figure out how to unclip the helmet so I did the interview with a helmet on yeah they could not hear thing as well you hear me go oh the atmosphere was electric and I know he said the electric thing and then we um yeah we Kenny from South Park hanging out with us we to I finally I got someone to take my helmet off we drove the soap box down to the graveyard thing but they said they weren't going to break it we put it to one side it might be broken and then we had to run up the hill because we had to get on the live stream to do an interview straight afterwards yeah and oh my God you realize how far we came down Running Up That thing that it was 400 to 500 M back up a relatively Steep Hill on a very hot day we were exhausted from the day before and uh being out the night before and having the race and all that kind of stuff and in boiler suits and it was a hot day boiling I got so sweaty at the top we got to the top and we were like that was just a thoroughly unenjoyable experience but it was cool cuz there I heard I don't I think I told you at the time I heard a kid as we ran past he was like oh my God racers felt like an F1 driver in that moment yeah that really went straight to my head yeah I bet we felt a lot cooler than we probably looked just running around in boiler suits and I'm my Red Bull cap on we had shades on surprised he hasn't got that red bull cap on today by the way that thing you're going to have to peel that off his dead body I've been wearing it so much lady just cuz I I love it it's good for green screen stuff that is the one thing I I might start wearing cuts out the wispy hair yeah it cuts out the wispy hair which kind of ruin the illusion I've got that real issue whereas when you wear a cap it's like a smooth round thing and the green screen just looks much better I see my editors have all been like wear a cap as often as possible oh so they even so they tell you what to do huh you're not Char they do interesting well I keep my editors locked away and then I give them footage and they're like please I want to see my family please share an editor now no King yeah we do shout out king great honestly fantastic worker his work ethic he sent me a video and like couple hours later he was like actually here's a V2 I watched it back and I I could see some improvements I was like kind of mentality and he's not been editing for long either yeah so he's I think all selft talk cow's amazing as well they're both just great honestly yeah people listening a fascinated here about how much we love our tives yeah let's get back to the Red Bull so box race so then we did our interview at the very top which is when cuz we went down first so we were Then followed by all the other creators who did the race um we didn't really get to see them at the time cuz we were running up the the bloody Hill but um we got to the top they all slowly joined us did their interview and then it got revealed the scores so there were different categories we were like ranked on or scored on the first being performance and I I'm pretty sure the style of the cart comes into that as well yeah and so we what did we get like what was it 20 22 it was really bad 40 terrible score we got like a seven a six a three and a five something like that whoever gave us a three what's wrong with you huh they were grumpy though cuz I think chip and frezy got something like 39 and the guy that person gave them a nine apparently they were really mean scoring the whole time that's crazy but chip and fzy knew about the performance thing which we I know how they knew about that we had no idea chip and freezy raced as a box of 20 chicken McNuggets yeah and they brought like homemade barbecue sauce and just on each other yeah pry just poured it all over them it was good like as performances go that's like the best thing you can do yeah so they got a really great score like almost perfect just one guy dropped a mark on it um 39 out 40 but I feel like I feel like giving us a three was really harsh I know our performance wasn't great but the music was very fitting yeah and maybe we should have pretended we were on the moon with our jumping or something like walking like that he just had such a cool carard we had so little time to think about it yeah I feel like it was harsh though look at our car that was really cool yeah maybe we were also ranked harshly because we were the first creators to go down maybe maybe we would have got a better score if we were towards the end I don't know yeah maybe but um yeah we did really bad on that and then you get obviously score for your speed in finishing the race yeah which we smashed Everyone by like four four seconds or something or seven or eight yeah like seven or eight seconds Quicks first to second and the second fastest and I think Becky and pieace got a dnf finish either they hit a minute or they stopped completely yeah cuz they went over one of the jumps and then front end broke so the wheel wasn't really like or the front was touching the floor dragging across the floor so they just I felt bad for them they just ped all across but at least they got down in one piece that's the they were just in a pint glass yeah it was really cool and they had a they had a cool performance Becky poured pint on um pie which was funny um con and Jack had a cool performance they just had some Swagger about it like yeah it was cool oh yeah we got picked on the performance but they did struggle getting into the vehicle did they yeah CU it's really hard and narrow to get in um they got they everyone got all the way to the end by the way Colin Jack fell over at the end there thing just went on its side they they chose thinner Wheels I didn't think they were going to make it that far yeah they also had a really high center of gravity cuz their car was thin and quite tall yeah like if you looked at their car it looked like it wanted to fall over it was a bit like chitty chitty bang bang but like elongated yeah so they did really well to and they were drifting it as well it was drifting so they did really well to get to the bottom um but yeah we were like seven seconds quicker than seven or eight seconds quicker than the second fastest which was it chip and freezy or was it Con I think it might have been no chip and frezy was Heavy wasn't it to be fair so that would move um and then there was People's Choice which we said we won 49% and was those were those those three so I think the reason so we ended up coming third we came third out of the four I just think it wasn't like cuz we won two out of three categories you'd think we'd win but I think they gave they were sort of like weighted yeah so because we were so low on the performance us being ahead on the other two bits didn't pull us up enough I think it's really harsh I think it doesn't matter at all by the way I don't I don't care but I do think it's harsh that performance is weighted so heavily in comparison to like speed has got to be the most important thing yeah like it's a race I know that's that's the way we were looking at it that's because it's a race come on we were focus on the race as aspect obviously soap boxes isn't Formula 1 is supposed to be like a bit of fun cretive stuff which you do get um but yeah hard winning two out of three categories and winning the race comfortably well it was more like at in the moment when they were revealing who won out of us four I was thinking in my head oh we've definitely won yeah after winning we got like 50% of the votes for People's Choice so it was a landslide Victory they said and a landslide Victory on the speed so I was thinking we have smashed those two things so surely we've gained loads of points for that yeah and we came third I was like I'm actually quite shocked by that I in my head I was thinking oh my God we've won yeah but um no it was so means anything like there's I don't there's nothing for it yeah I was just surprised but genuinely so it was so good yeah it was it was definitely definitely one of the best things I've ever done I was so glad that we did it I can't wait for the proper video to come out and have it all like a documentary s of documented archive just being like Oh I can look back at that video that was a banger yeah oh it was it was really good um then we stuck around and watched some public racing um and yeah there was it was it was nice there was a nice like area where you could get food and stuff and the worms showed up oh yeah lots of the patreon supporters a couple of N and non patreon people showed up lots of podcast people I'm guessing everyone there was podcast listeners because I didn't really put it on any platform no I think it it was all podcast we spoken about on the on on the podcast and in the patreon group chat quite a lot yeah and that was pretty much it so thank you well regardless if it's yeah thank you guys for coming along cuz it was so nice speaking to everyone great really great to have your support um yeah and yeah you guys were there for most of the day just like stood by our um what do you call it Soap Box stood by our Soap Box we were coming over when we could to say hi and stuff yeah everyone got photos we oh my goodness quite a lot of people wanted us to draw tattoos for them oh dear and we are not artistic no we're close yeah I'm a letter away but I not draw sa in my life and I was like the only thing I could think of was the rocket emoji yeah that was pretty good to be fair I was trying to draw them but getting the three little things at the bottom and the fire I was like I was like show this to your artist and they'll get what I'm trying to draw yeah they'll understand I mean I just ended up drawing flowers CU it's the easiest thing to draw it's got nothing to do with me a lot of art what just happened you just got bored of your own conversation I just yawned I was hoping you take it off me really quickly cuz I yawned no someone asked for a cameo once where they were like can you draw something for us to do a tattoo and I did a a ringed planet oh nice and oh my goodness trying to get cuz obviously if you put the circle there first the ring that goes in front like cuts through lines and it looks crap so you've kind of got to start with the ring but obviously just as the ring curves back around you have to stop and then you have to imagine where the sphere is going to be and oh my goodness I burnt through about half this notebook trying to get one that just looks semi-reasonable so whoever invented Saturn fair enough yeah exactly that must have been difficult and Uranus yep that's also ringed yeah um many too many rings yeah I've got a ring do you oh yeah and that weekend batch proposed to me so I said yes no I'm talking about my ass what anyway um it was it was a different kind of proposition to the one you were thinking of yours is way cuter than mine and I said no oh hell no I just got that that's disgusting cuz I was like on Saturday night we were just chilling we were like go we're exhausted yeah and I was like do you want to just stay around and Bach was like yeah so we played fornite and watch scary movies yeah he took me to get sushi again yeah we went to sticks and Sushi again but I was like I kind of want to make more videos but we were just so tired yeah I it was too late you just what you made me watch horror stuff we we watched a bunch of scary videos on YouTube like real ghost sightings and short horror movies and I was like I've wanted to do videos like that with you ages I was like then was the perfect time but our energy was just shock yeah we'll do it we'll definitely do it another time though CU people just love that love that horror game yeah is entertaining to watch other people get scared people don't want to watch you have fun they want to watch you cringe and be scared people enjoyed us having fun of Minecraft true but you were scared of I died like five six times I'm not very good clearly everyone's making fun of me did I die once I didn't I don't think no but your spirit died at one point hell no my spirit my spirit was always my spirit were through the roof um when I was getting attacked by Leona Lewis and I was hiding in the house turns out Leona Lewis can't go in water so I should have just gone in water I saw that comment yeah thanks for that thanks for the comment I'm actually going to use that logic and I I already want to film episode three right now do you yeah it was so fun we'll do it this week actually it's so fun like I enjoy playing it we're just loading up M fil although he needs a he needs a setup can we can we tell this boy to put some money towards a proper setup he plays on his PlayStation so we have to play Bedrock Edition so I can't use my nice shaders that make the waters and everything look clean and all the like graphics and stuff you know the like it's T's water we're keeping it the graphics upgrades are insane look just just a bit enjoy a humble bit of like Minecraft where it's nostalgic not everything has to be polished yeah okay fine um but no it was it was really good fun and it is it is I do love that we can just do that kind of stuff and just play a game and it would be fun yeah um we can just like high five when we want yeah anyway um back to let's go back in time to um the end of the race he wet himself no he didn't he didn't no he didn't but um I just want to make sure that we covered everything no because we didn't speak about um the stunt the stunts oh yeah you should tell them about the stunt they they just flung on you they didn't tell you until yeah they didn't tell me about this before and they made me sign my rights away yeah and it it was they had already Ked off the live stream so you just had to do it yeah um we basically batch got nice one he got pulled aside and they were like oh is the driver we're testing your reflexes yeah and what did they do they so she dropped a ruler and you just had to grab the ruler um as soon as she dropped it and just see how many centimeters you let drop to judge your reaction time I didn't do I think I came second actually nice but on the practice I failed uh so I was like oh that was nice and peaceful and fun I wonder what mine's going to be and they get me and they they I put this heart monitor on and I was like what they put this heart monitor on me put me in the middle of this cage and this dude called like Douglas or something comes up in this massive dirt bike and just goes like I'll lie down in the middle and I was like I know exactly where this is going got R to me and Jack just start planking and he's sort of in this giant he giant of a man I swear he's like 6'4 in this massive dirt bike and he's sort of there like on one wheel bouncing the like wheel like an inch from my head and I'm like if he just if anything misjudges he crushes my skull yeah like we we we lose one of the Bright Young talents of this generation and you as well wait what do you mean well they'd get Jack and you oh yeah yeah good old Jack and then then he was doing like wheelies around your head like just driving past full speed past his head yeah it was giving me the E actually see lie down there insane and I was just like well I'm playing it cool cuz that's like the name of the game it'd be cringe if I got up and I mean they they even said that if you get up you're at risk of just getting your head whacked cuz he's like an inch within your head so if you move it until you die yeah um and for like a minute he just did this and bounced around and yeah you were down there for a hot minute yeah we were there for ages just getting driven around I thought oh this is just getting this is just cruel now yeah I mean the poor boy is just lying there with a boner by the way uh because he gets that happens when he gets scared just why you think I keep getting you for horror games oh no i h on a Bo so he's just doing circling circling circling around Arthur on the floor it just I just felt a bit sorry for him in the end yeah uh so that was terrifying but good F night you know I'm up for anything I did realized the other day I'm just one of his friends who's just up for thing yeah you are actually someone could be like hey we're going to sit inside and watch movies tonight I be like fine or they can be like come on man we're robbing a bank I'm like cool they'll be like come on going glamping for the weekend do you is that real though if I said or okay let's go and watch the Euros tonight fine let's do it England England this is the last night of the group stage and all of a sudden the mood is really dead because we're just through now we've not played well either it's been pathetic there I said it and Harry Kane when you finally come on this podcast I've got some strong words to have with you mine mine Reserve is Gareth Southgate and not bringing BR and not playing kobby Mayu okay sorry Harry Kane actually way he's playing phenomenally to be not as if we're missing him but I'm mad at you Southgate yeah Italy um not playing too bad oh my goodness you're Italian did you watch the game last night and they scored the 90th plus eight to go through 98th minute it was the draw against Croatia oh that was heartbreaking poor the thing is they probably would have gone through anyway as one of the people third but um it's nice to confirm it you know yeah those moments of elation just so hard I think Italy just like a decent Striker anyway we won't bore you with football because a lot of people probably don't care about football yeah um but yeah I mean I'm getting into F1 now yes you are you watch drive to survive right yeah I've been watching drive to surv I need to get on that I really want to watch that um and hence why the Red Bull so box race I was really in I was really in my element Because You Loved does it make you love Red Bull as well the driver to survive does it follow a particular team it follows the mall and to be honest I haven't really got like a team I really um it's not like I really want to see this team win it's more people that you care about it's good to see Red Bull doing well but um I like Lando do you yeah you're Lando Norris enjoyer I'm a Lando enjoyer I like them all to be fair from what I've seen I like I get I like Char all oh cuz he kind he kind of looks like Charles mclair uh yeah I get uh Lando Norris a lot people always say like L nor I'm not sure about that boy and uh obviously like V stappen red the Red Bull goat what batch V stappen high five what does that even mean batch for steppen me batch for steppen batch for steppen me instead of Max for Sten batch for Sten it's one of the only times that batch really goes into anything batch for Sten what do people nickname you at school get tuna boy cuz I've brought in tuna fish boy uh right I was going duckling I was going for more names like name related like okay because I was oh name related I was I was called nothing I was just called Arthur I don't know why I said it like that I was called Nothing me yeah had no friends at school no I didn't really people would say ice as a joke ice yeah I just I didn't like not having a cool nickname name my sister one of my sisters calls me Izzy that's really cringe and feminine yo she watches these which is fine yo she watches these apologize down the lens right now I apologize nothing cuz it is it was true it was my truly held opinion and you should never apologize for being yourself sometimes she calls me Elizabeth as well what and I don't really know where she got that from she started that was a good what what yeah she watches it where she works as she was working she'll have it on Gizzy by the way I didn't get cancelled for what Sunday came out where I waterboarded Chris I haven't watched that and I was seriously worried I was genuinely like I thought you know just some people on the internet can be real yeah cuz they might be like oh you're making fun of water boarding people actually die from water boarding that's not what I exactly what I meant oh because okay you can't waterboard Chris because he doesn't like water and some people have been drowned before no okay of course because because you shouldn't do water boarding because it's like saying this is something you should it's really on impressionable fans and they'll be like okay I'm going to water board my mom tonight right maybe maybe that was like oh you shouldn't do that on to an impression I'm going to cancel you right now in that case um but no I I I just thought people would be like oh that was so mean of him they're not friends like just you know when you don't really know I mean obviously anyone who's seen Chris and videos knows how much abuse he puts me through I mean that guy abuse shs down on my neck like there's no tomorrow he's just I I'll just be chilling mid shootting he'll just go on my traps I mean granted they're juicy like they're nice muscular defined um have you ever thought you might just be a vampire I don't know hiding in plain sight you know you've got two Pierce marks right there you getting sucked by you've got really garlicky breath so I don't think I could be a a vampire cuz otherwise let's not start rumors like that otherwise I'd run there's not start rumors like that yeah my breath smells like daisies rainbows fairy tales I'm always chewing gum you are always chewing gum you're a real gum chewer yeah it Bo it boosts your confidence it's like putting a pair of sunglasses on I'm glad you don't do it on the podcast that would be the most annoying thing to listen to I have done it before but I just tuck it into my teeth like snz you don't mean that it's gum you don't mean that it's gum it's just weird you don't mean that it's gum gum started freaking out you know we were speaking about eggs the other day when you you're Midway through eating heads and you're like wait up yeah that's a period something ain't right that's a menstrual cycle raor and you're like yeah well that weirdly makes me like it more it's more than I knew you were a feminist me too come on yeah um we do like to bring awareness to the fact that women exist and have Cycles cuz I I I mentioned menstrual cycles all the time and I in one of my YouTube videos I was like I've got to stop saying menstrual cycles drop a comment if you think I should stop saying menual cycle everyone's like no and someone's like no it actually feels kind of feminist in a weird way cuz you're bringing light to the fact of cuz not everyone knows that women have I think everyone knows women have periods I found out 3 days ago watching your video you thought they had penis what I just thought they merely existed they merely exist in a in a realm Between Heaven and Hell where somewhere I love doesn't exist what the hell is this guy talking about women only exist in heaven women are heaven on Earth in my opinion how does that song Go heaven heaven for what it's worth women are heaven on Earth women are heaven on Earth brother in Christ you don't know what you're talking about right now I feel like we're getting on to Serious brain rot have you got anything else this is a rare batch prepared actually been praying preparing a lot um all of the episodes lately we've actually yeah hence why the quality's increased um no you just you do stuff in a different way I like like reading and talking reading well next episode's prepared by by Arthur and we'll be filming this directly after this one yeah we're doing complet transparency cuz batch is way on holiday and I'm going to be honest because I'm not I've not brought a spare pair of clothes anyway yeah me neither I don't want to hear no comments like why is he wearing that shirt again well they should be comenting CU alth this on an episode before quite frankly Arthur is either can I just say by the way I predicted what you were going to be wearing on the Red Bull meal I said Arthur will turn up in Black corduroy shorts um and a cream beige top shirt either worn as an overshirt with a white t-shirt underneath or just a shirt that's exactly what you were that's true I mean I have two other pairs of shorts I had a black like pair that were like had textured but the waistband thing snapped hard to find a good pair of shorts and then I had a nice like cream beige pair yeah um but they were just like I don't know linen and just ended up being a bit too and take it from a guy a sleepover with him he doesn't take them off he showers in them he goes me to take them off he was like take them off take them off take them off and I was like leave me alone yeah I was like please wash please wash you were just misreading me I wasn't saying take them off I was like please wash please wash anyway I I got the um I went into the patreon chat o uh little plug if you want to join the patreon go ahead there's a chat you get early access to episodes they get uploaded all the time and Bullies me in it yeah I do speak in there a fair amount um and I said to them we're filming two pods today can you guys reply to this message with any questions you have about the Red Bull Soapbox race we're going to be doing a whole episode on it uh because I thought there might be you know they might want to know more information on how it was built or how we were feeling and stuff and we could just give us some insight to that we've just explained the day how cool it was blah blah blah but they want to know the BTS let's see how insightful their questions can be okay did you hurt your nose that's [ __ ] rude no I didn't that obviously pointed at you no I didn't to be fair I did we had said in an episode prior that there was no foam and we are going to smash our faces in they put foam in we had good helmets on but we didn't actually crash so yeah we didn't crash so although his coxic bone is in pain yeah my coxics I'm absolutely fine because I'm not weak that's your tailbone um may ask for us highly evolved Apes that was from Brooke by the way I'll say names shout outs May says how SL why did you decide to build a rocket why I guess cuz it's very on brand for us have a look at our mugs yep yeah I mean we're just we're were're a Spacey themed podcast for no apparent reason we genely I'm sure we said in the earlier episodes we had no plans to be themed and bats just randomly one day went let's just make it space themed I just think it's cool yeah me I just think we both think it's cool we do we just need a cool set I think most of the things we do is because we think oh that's cool like the Soap Box we thought oh it'd be cool if we did a a ship or a ufi yeah just cuz it just cuz it's funny someone actually messaged in for the next one I've got like the submissions from the normal submissions page which everyone can enter just go to our any of our socials at Bach and arur and in the link there's like a a link tree and one of them is the submissions form and they were like what is your target audience because I can't really figure it out and I'm studying media at the moment target audience is such a big thing and I was like we don't have one we just come on talk about whatever we find interesting yeah and just hope that some people agree yeah and the people who do listen are actually very um diverse yeah and intelligent and cool and good looking and all this yeah um so yeah no um yeah and it's weird because we're not sitting there going oh let's talk about this to appeal to this audience which I think is I mean somehow it works so thank you guys for tuning into thanks cuz I think if you analyzed it in like a media class and it was like oh one minute you're doing brain rot meme references and the next you're talking about s men and then the next we're talking about Greek philosophy and the next one like Roman Parables and then religion they'd be like well someone's going to listen to the one episode like it and then not like the rest yeah but for some reason people just like listening to it all really I think we just decided that we're just going to do what we want like yeah whatever we enjoy yeah like whatever we enjoy and whatever we F feel like talking about we're just going to do it because if you want to enjoy something you've like if you want this if we want this podcast to continue we've got to enjoy it and if we're looking at it tactically like Oh Let's do an episode on this so we can boost our audience in this demographic it will start to feel like a like a real job well like you know I've heard from other people that do podcasts that their producers will be like today you're having this guest on and they're like well I've never watched the show they're on or Never follow them don't care about the story but I've got to do it's nice that we kind of have a just able to just go oh whatever and I do think the stuff we talk about is interesting broadly like if you're someone who like whenever we meet or speak to anyone who watches the podcast they're always like oh I love like these types of interesting discussions I feel like if you have a generally curious mind yeah like if if people who are listening to this and enjoy it are going to be similar to us in that respect and they you know even if they don't have a an interest in any of the particular like they might be like oh I love hearing about religion I'm a curious person but they don't care about Greek philosophy yeah or anything when we speak about the ship of thesis they're still like oh it's an interesting thought like it's an interesting thought so if you're one of those types of people like us then all that kind of stuff is interesting I guess thus our our demographic is people who just have similar interests to us yeah or like have a similar outlook on life or yeah that's the thing it's not even like it's just it's the broad value of curiosity I think who just like they like to laugh they like a bit of Comedy cuz we even get people who disagree with us and they're like oh I'm religious I completely disagree with this all but it was so interesting to listen to and so they're not listening because we're speaking about things that they find um they agree with or they enjoy you know but they're going like oh like I like the way these topics are approached or the way this is discussed and yeah so yeah hopefully we'll try and keep that up um hey no way we're going to brain Rock 24/7 after here or no anyway um Connie asked what was your top speed we don't actually know but what did you think it was 30 well when we passed we passed the speed gate at what will be one of the fastest points and that was 30 okay mil K yeah km pH um Leia says do you think you were going to make it to the Finish Line did you think you were going to make it to the Finish Line I genuinely um did not think we were going to make it past the chicane to be honest yeah cuz I didn't realize the course was as wide as it was however the as narrow as it was you mean actually yeah yes and no the thing is it's like driving a car when you're in a car it looks like you're you're bigger than the road but actually you can fit in much smaller of a gap than you expect yourself to be able to and so when you're actually in the soap box when we were doing the chicane in my head I thought we're going to catch one of the hay bals and go flying but actually although it was actually pretty close watching it back it felt like I had enough room to get round and stuff well two hay bals we did fully slic through well yeah if the wings were like flat fronted we would have we could have just spun out flown but because the wings were just like yeah we the first one and then the second one we through that yeah um but in no I didn't think we were going to make it down in one piece to be honest I thought either we'd get to the end and there' be damage or we'd fall over at the end or we just wouldn't make it to the end cuz it's not a like it more often than not you don't make it to the end yeah so I thought statistically I didn't I didn't think we were going to make it to the end so I was surprised were you or not it's so funny because at the start you're like I really don't know but be when you're going down it's so fast and you've got to think a lot like yeah I was just constantly thinking like just monitoring whether we were going too fast or not to be like bring the speed down ever so slightly and it's everything's happening so fast you don't have time to think oh are we going to make it like any hypotheticals it's just uh pull the break break on break off break off oh my goodness are we going to make this corner are we going to too fast at how are we doing like all this kind of stuff's rushing through your head I didn't even think about it I was no so yeah I had no thoughts in my head either I think we were just on reflex at that point yeah because every yeah like Arthur said everything's coming at you so quick like before the chane I thought I had enough time to put my hand up and wave and I was like [ __ ] no I don't yeah so that's when I came back onto the wheel and did that so we really don't have much time in that thing um then Phoenix asks what was the hardest and easiest part of the creative process oh hard po was coming up with an idea for what we wanted to do as the car because we took ages like they were asking us for the design for so long and we were like we really don't know it is hard when you can do literally anything it's like the classic situation where you've got too much Choice yeah so you can't make a decision and neither necessarily creative creative types yeah so we and also it's it's difficult as well when there's two people because obviously if one person wants to do something we we agreed yeah we we didn't have any friction on what we wanted to do we because we both didn't really have an idea but you've got to make sure that what one person comes up with the other person's happy to do um but I think from the go we just suggested either a space shuttle or UFO we were both happy with those two ideas and then we had a look at some pictures and we thought okay let's go for a space sh that was it yeah so I think that um it was hard in the beginning but to to be honest the decision process was pretty easy for us in the end I do think the hardest part although that was hard I think what was harder for us was probably um building the chassis don't you think it was harder than the woodwork yeah that's probably true cuz we didn't have any engineer assistance with the underly car yeah the actual chassis itself we just had bits like we didn't have instructions for half of it we were in in a big Warehouse with just a bunch of nuts bolts rods	break on break off break off oh my goodness are we going to make this corner are we going to too fast at how are we doing like all this kind of stuff's rushing through your head I didn't even think about it I was no so yeah I had no thoughts in my head either I think we were just on reflex at that point yeah because every yeah like Arthur said everything's coming at you so quick like before the chane I thought I had enough time to put my hand up and wave and I was like [ __ ] no I don't yeah so that's when I came back onto the wheel and did that so we really don't have much time in that thing um then Phoenix asks what was the hardest and easiest part of the creative process oh hard po was coming up with an idea for what we wanted to do as the car because we took ages like they were asking us for the design for so long and we were like we really don't know it is hard when you can do literally anything it's like the classic situation where you've got too much Choice yeah so you can't make a decision and neither necessarily creative creative types yeah so we and also it's it's difficult as well when there's two people because obviously if one person wants to do something we we agreed yeah we we didn't have any	7	5	3	break on break off break off oh my goodness are we going to make this corner are we going to too fast at how are we doing like all this kind of stuff's rushing through your head	um then Phoenix asks what was the hardest and easiest part of the creative process oh hard po was coming up with an idea for what we wanted to do as the car because we took ages like they were asking us for the design for so long and we were like we really don't know it is hard when you can do literally anything it's like the classic situation where you've got too much Choice yeah so you can't make a decision and neither necessarily creative creative types yeah so we and also it's it's difficult as well when there's two people because obviously if one person wants to do something we we agreed yeah we we didn't have any	5,8,3	2,-1,6	5	8	3	2	-1	6
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0g_xJvKEb8	4,108	-0g_xJvKEb8	2024-06-27 00:00:00	[Music] what's up everybody welcome back to episode 14 of the batch and Arthur podcast yay go thanks for joining everyone we have something to reveal yes we do I know you guys don't like it when Arthur has his mug on the couch because he tends to drop things don't you never dropped anything actually okay you dropped that th done remember that well you might have noticed I also have my mug on the sofa mhm wondering why who wants to know why should we tell them something to do with one like equals one Lara maybe something to do with that exactly you guys ready see what you reveal go way for audio listeners we have white mugs with our little cartoon characters on them that's right little will I didn't want to Cheers you and I've got my little handsome space guy come on yeah Lara surprised us with these this is a gift um mine shatterproof as well apparently oh it's not sh yeah he's got a plastic mug because we know what he's like I've sippy C the audio listeners actually little rubber cppy cup with two handles well actually when Arthur drinks from a mug show them how you do it I'll I'll commentate for this he uses two hands so he grabs on the like handle and then he grabs the other hand I drink everything with two hands especially tea and Pints yeah I don't really know what is there a reason for that or not safety I guess twice as balanced is that really if one arm stops working the other one's there as a fail safe well there you go that's why he does it guys so it makes sense all after all yeah um speaking of batch and Arthur this podcast design right here yeah this has been plasted on something recently what our rocket ship oh yeah guys we just got back from the Red Bull Soap Box race and we're alive 2024 we genuinely were not sure we were going to survive no I was but we did really scared we we turned up we got to see other people's cards um and there was basically two things going on so there's like a public race and then the Creator race was like a separate thing which is streamed on YouTube If you go on Red Bull's um YouTube channel and you go on under the live tab you can actually watch the full thing yeah we were like a half time race yeah it was Bas half time show yeah there was a few people who weren't happy about the Creator's uh racing cuz they thought we were mixed in with the public but it's like a whole separate thing like we can't win any awards over the public or anything like that yeah um but but we won the hearts of the public come on yeah we did win the hearts of the public there was a a couple of things that you were like rated on as creators and one of them was People's Choice and we got a landslide victory of 44% yeah it actually ended up on 49% 50% out of four teams we got 49 everyone rounds 49 thank you to everyone who voted for us we one of four teams but we're up against chip and freezy who have a big loving audience Becky and pieace who audience and then con from the siden huge loving audience and the guy who's our cameraman on the train video the siden that's right Jack was there as well went to with con they had cool out but uh we we got to Ali p uh that's my first time there you've been there before actually I think we should start the day before okay let's let's reel that [ __ ] back because we had another sleepover kind of yeah we did have another let's just say oh no we didn't really a hotel yeah we did not have a sleepover but what did we do where did we first meet we we met at the we met at the hotel at the hotel dropped our bags off Adam was there he's the Red Bull guy that was been looking after us and he took all the creators out to dinner yeah we to find the tell first yeah chopped a pint um both hands come on yeah then we got in a taxi we went to dinner we had a create a dinner um what did you eat pizza yeah I had a really really hot hot pizza but the thing I was enjoying the most was the football we had a massive screen in front of us oh yeah cuz France were playing Netherlands NE scen I felt kind of harsh cuz the the table was positioned in a way that only half of us could see the football and the other half were just watching us watching football yeah but no he they were watching a react video basically they got to see us live reacting In the Flesh um but the meal was really good the food was really good uh Jake was struggling Jake the guy works with um Arthur they both got the same Pizza he was struggling with the heat yeah he was [ __ ] [ __ ] struggling with the Pint as well got two pints steep was steaming no cuz he was so in denial Jake yeah Jake had a couple pints and he was gone we were like you are drunk he like I am not drunk and he was getting angry mad I'm not even drunk he's I haven't even done anything later he's doing karaoke so that's belting out karaoke with his phone to the to the mic with with voice note on my God it's so that was you singing those Tunes to someone yeah we yeah CU you've been to a place before should we say the name of the place or not I actually I don't remember it anyway okay we went to this place anyway Arthur's been there before it's um like a karaoke bar with uh like an arcade and bowling and there's a dance floor and like a bar and stuff like that yeah very good fun we all went there did some karaoke went there for Arthur Hill's birthday that's how I found out about it what a place it is a cool place actually um yeah did a bit of karaoke we were in there for a couple hours doing karaoke in the end yeah um belting at tunes by the way batch can sing No Arthur can sing yeah but I think people would assume that from but that goes without saying no but but Frank Sinatra came on and oh my goodness batch was just cooking that thing anyone can sing Frank arra welcome back Frank Sinatra he died and this is him reborn wasn't wasn't he heavily involved with the mafia Frank Sinatra so are you you're a quter Italian that's true but I can't admit that no not legally anyway oops they're going to come and get me try and come and get me watch me beat beat you all up actually I shouldn't say what if they do don't come and get me please I was just kidding I've got nothing to do with him he lives on 32 Italian back street oh my god that actually is my house number H what don't say that it's not that's my apartment number as well no we you're not finding out where we live um I'm going to move in with Arthur anyway we moved in together on Minecraft yeah sort of anyway back to karaoke we had fun at karaoke then we went home we didn't get back till 3:00 a.m. silly move because we had to be up early yeah we had it well not that early we had 10: a.m. taxi picks up yeah but we met at breakfast at 9:30 it was the most romantic breakfast of my life yeah um and then stayed at the Hilton Red Bull of class they put us in there they also like what a lovely experience not only did they take us to dinner they they paid for karaoke and everything like that they covered everything shout out to Red Ball I'm going to crack One open right now and they're actually delicious all these colored red balls my actual favorite is the summer edition you guys should actually try this this is not sponsored but I'm just saying this is not even the first thing I I did I went to salburg in Austria and did some Red Bull salburg video shooting with Chris MD um we did like penal sh outs in games with mads bistrup for their YouTube channel and then did a video in it was the the final one of christed uh every time you beat a Defender the defender gets upgraded that's right yeah and we start off with like Harry R Shaw as the worst Defender when all the way up to Champions League mads bistr who fantastic player I mean yeah you realize how like when you watch t uh football on TV you think oh I could do that yeah but then if you see a actual Pro in real life yeah like that makes sense why you went pro now actually we need to do more charity so that was fun that was fun there are a lot going on it's just timings cuz there's so many things going on during summer and that's usually when charity matches go down yeah but you got to work in the schedules either you're away or I'm away or there's a brand trip or something has to be submitted in time was crazy yeah but um no I'm sure we're going to do a lot more stuff with Red Bull as well so that's exciting um but anyway we then got the taxi to Alex Alexandra Palace Ali pal come on and um I've only just realized that's why it's Ali P really yeah I just thought that Ali P was the hill and Alexandre Palace was no way Ali now I've just heard it okay that's Ali P right anyway U you almost did a off the TV intro that right right so then we uh we got into the race so no we got into the Zone where the race was going on yeah and we got to have a little scout out all the public submitted soap boxes some really cool stuff in there yeah although there was one weird one because we rock up and there are like four girls gathered around water is essentially a double bed one girl just tucked up and you back like oh this is cool and she was like yeah it's really cozy get in we were like no I I ain't doing all that I'm sure though that you know that wasn't actually her like lying in it yeah I know you could tell something was weird under the covers but I was not getting involved what what what the hell um oh you can't see my soundboard I've got to pull this back so I can soundboard here yeah he hasn't got a soundboard yet thank goodness although I should no they all see the comments by the way Lara and Arthur see the comments and Lara even said into the group chat she was like I think we need to get bat of soundboard because of all the comments she sent me a message being like listen we've got one purchase a year we can authorize either we get cool mugs or batch gets a soundboard and I was like mugs mugs oh hell no I just think it's so much funnier when you do it yourself and go to I do think so but this is going to get worn down and eventually there's going to be a Hole uh oh audio listeners don't know what I'm doing I I just I pretend there's a soundboard and I just push the sof and make my I do it as well I do it in real life I'll be speaking to people when I'm BR but it doesn't make his much sense in real life just in a conversation he's just air poking stuff as he goes brh you know what's so funny as well I showed batch this someone one of you guys one of our listeners because cuz I you do it quite a lot but I do it all the time at you do the what yeah what that thing someone did a Tik Tok called whatting people in public so she goes into this petrol station goes to pay she goes like how much is that and he goes like Oh 1350 and she just goes what loud so loud just yells it in this man's face and everyone was like bad bad you guys have to recreate this it was so funny yeah and then Arthur was like we've got to do this we've got I don't know if I have the like what is it um social confidence to do that I'd be able to do it not yell it I thought it was a bit rude though the loud yelling not in a bad I'm not criticizing you I just able to do that like that myself I'd be like what I think sorry you got no no soup of the day what what when you have a camera on you though that you get a new found confidence in public like I found no no no in general I don't know if you agree with this in like a sidan video I Feel Like rules don't apply like social rules then don't apply cuz you've got a camer on you and you can do what you want whatever you want yeah I've only recently started being able to finally find it within myself to Vlog like when we were at wagas I was like this is actually fine yeah whereas before IID look at people vlogging in public and I go I admire you a lot cuz I can never do that it helps having people around you yeah although I feel like we do it with our phones it's a bit easier that's true whereas if people with their cameras out like facing their way I'm like oh my goodness I'd be so embarrassed yeah I think I would be as well especially if you got like a big rig on the end of that thing people are just admiring you your rig yeah both of them come on anyway um what speaking of the soap boxes that we saw um there was this one there was like these four guys like lying down chilling and they had this like Dome oh yeah which was kind of like a I guess like a spa you know the space shuttles that come down to earth it kind of looked a bit like that didn't yeah um like a landing module yeah like a landing module and they what did what did they make it off fiberglass or something yeah oh my God you could smell it from where we were still and they were like stick your head in that so we stuck it you stuck your head in first took a whiff and I did it afterwards oh my God dizzying genuinely dizzying I'm high I'm still high from that moment if anyone's ever been in like a a surfboard shop where they like make the surfboards yeah it smells like that it just smell exactly like that and they bizarre I just burped on I thought that was what that was that was disgusting hopefully that didn't get picked up apologize sorry guys sorry if you heard that cut that out anyway um it's not getting cut uh it they had to spend the whole run down in that thing so I think those guys are a little bit waved yeah I'm glad we I'm glad we were just a team of two and had two seats because I kind of felt bad some people that pushed the Soap Box thing down yeah like running after it for like 50 meters and it was a hot day that's true like um most people was like a team of four and two would push two would be in it I think that's standard isn't it to have two people in the so box and then a team that will push and Chase it down probably chase down chip and freezies yeah funny it was funny as well the way he was running because I guess it was like a it was like Looney Tunes the way he had his arms up like that chasing them down to be fair there are people I felt more bad for he talking about some of the injuries of the day oh my God and this is the thing like good gosh man we were already nervous then we were then we got to S see our um vehicle which they had made some mods to by the way so put me at ease a little bit they put foam in the place where my head would smash oh yeah so I felt about that yeah um they didn't they were going to cut out the wheel arches so we could turn more but they didn't I'm glad they I actually think that worked in our favor in it did um and they were actually slagging it off when it went up on towards stage they were speaking about it on Mike and they were like they can't turn properly they can't see over it and I was thinking oh no they're slagging off our thing they were talking about our buckets on the back and stuff I don't know if they were slagging off the buckets or just speaking about I just heard bucket like they're talking about ours oh my god um but it actually worked in favor and then there was screens up showing the first runs and it took a while it like an hour or two after we got there till the first run um but did you see the Sheep one no I didn't see any of the big ones but that's a bad one there was a sheep we I was watching a sheep go down um it was just before you did your stunt I think and it got all the way to the end and then at full speed flipped over onto their necks and I think it was one of them that broke their collarbone and it looked awful and after seeing that me and pieace was stood together we were like I we genuinely don't want to go down after seeing that he was [ __ ] it I was [ __ ] it um and then not only that I think other people must have like been bruised or whatever but the other big one that we heard about is we when we got to the start line we were there waiting for like 10 minutes and it was cuz the person who went down before us got knocked out so that's crazy yeah which I didn't see I don't think we'll ever see any footage of that but I don't know what vehicle it was or anything I just heard that they got knocked out that's why we were up there for ages yeah I mean it was going down insanely fast yeah it look I mean it looks quick on camera but it doesn't look nearly as quick as it feels yeah when you're in that thing oh my goodness and you can barely see in front of you you're bouncing all over the place you're hitting these jumps there are bits where there's foam that like splashes you in the face you have a few seconds of blindness yeah it's mental it it to best describe it definitely feels faster than sitting in a car at 60 MPH I'd say faster than it feels sitting in a car going 100 yeah cuz you're so exposed to we've never gone 100 I've been on the auto bar in Germany okay fair um but yeah you're exposed so it just feels so quick but we were quick insanely Qui insanely quick I think everyone we were the first of the creators to go up everyone thought we were going to just crash yeah or just be crap and slow there was so many comments so many DMs I got afterward was like [ __ ] fair enough before we even went down though before we get cuz we we will react we'll show you us going down yeah but I think we should tell them actually maybe should we hit play and then we'll pause at certain bits to be like explainer yeah I'll tell you what it plays it goes all the way through and then they do it in slow-mo afterwards we can on the slow-mo we'll do some explanation okay here we go batch and Arthur we had the podcast sticker oh it was such a good sticker on the side which was really cool and they zoomed in out loads for the YouTube video which is great yeah was all over the stream which was ideal although you cannot see podcast there until someone shads over it yeah someone's just shattering we were stood up there for ages genuinely yeah because someone had just been knocked out looking down this hill that was just so steep it's not funny but look at that thing that's so impressive it's so well built I can't believe it and I'm I'm gutted because I actually wanted to say to the we had a little bit of help from the Red Bull Engineers yeah I wanted to say thank you to them more just be like what did you see that that was really good yeah if anyone knows anything by any chance please pass on our thanks because yeah they they helped us hopefully they watched it and saw a great deal uh but we did do a lot I mean we did spend two full days building this thing and printing it up and stuff so yeah which you'll obviously see in the Vlog I'll talk about I'll talk about something later cuz there's um this was posted to Tik Tok and there's some funny comments on there really basically yeah basically calling us desk dwellers what so this is our performance so this performance we didn't know we no was supposed to do we we were told to choose a piece of music so we chose something like Space Odyssey style but we had no idea that meant we had to perform yeah and like like she's saying like there are points for performance and we knew about 10 minutes beforehand that this 30 second period of Music we'd have to Performance so we were like let's just do something simple gum shields in the mouth bow and get in and they were harsh they gave us a three but that also also counts to the way the vehicle looks so I think three is Harsh yeah but here we go performance score 22 poor but this is when we started racking up speed the steering was really weird as well cuz it changed as we got quicker and we were just bouncing as we went down like we'd hit a ramp and oh my goodness like almost front flipped that around we Whi around the corner and our our genuine one of our wings like clipped a ha Bell and just sliced through it that one sliced through the hay Bell I was thinking as we came down I swear I would have hit that side had I not hit that side and then nailed the braking and you said you could smell burnt rubber when you were breaking on that thing cuz I was like tickling the brakes like before a jump every now and then I do one all as we approached the chicane I pulled it yeah um but they said as we were going down in the commentary like yeah oh this feels fast usually you're hitting like low 20s here and it comes up on the side and we're hitting 30 km an hour yeah we were going and we were oh my goodness I'm glad you didn't break touch the break though we didn't need it yeah yeah I mean you did a did a little bit but I mean the others obviously touched it a lot more yeah I basically kept us at a speed where I was like this is very close to the line of like where we can make this corner at the speed because at the end of the day as a race and I was like we don't want to get up at the end and just be like oh like a couple of the soite boxes made it halfway down and just like stopped completely yeah and they were like having to like like I don't know like Shake It Forward it's so awkward like we did speak and we did say we'd actually rather crash going pretty quick than come to a grinding hle because it's just not good material yeah like we did it for Content wants to see that it's for a video we know representing creators at half time yeah so many people watching we've got a space shuttle that is designed at a velocity of 17,000 500 mph yeah so we were like you know hitting to be honest when they gave us those uh cuz we asked for special helmets that covered the face yeah when they gave me that I felt invincible and I thought oh [ __ ] it and we had gum Shields that we like ped poured into boiling water molded them before and molded them so we we felt pretty safe yeah I mean but still at 30 we weren but I don't have miles hour or kilm an hour I think it was mph I actually do really yeah but whatever it is at 30 like genuinely like just whacking your head against something solid is well I mean someone did get knocked out and broke it was terrifying yeah they they then do a slow-mo okay let's watch the slow-mo and we can break down exactly because I was thinking there was a point in the chicane when we really Whi round I was thinking why did that happen it was because the back right wheel wasn't on the ground when we were coming up to the chicane so when it touched the the ground it turned us into a corner so I was like [ __ ] and I had to spin it around one way and then back around the other way oh that's why we had that major wobble yeah and you can see it it's like it's cuz one of the wheels wasn't on the ground okay let's let's watch and like in the first one we'll try and go for the audio listeners kind of describe what we're seeing yeah so the first jump yeah we it was a heavy a heavy bit of Kit as well we definitely had one of the heavier ones it and it was like so we got through here the back that wheel wasn't on the ground so like had to correct it well the chicane of just having to go really quick left and then really quick right after yeah and then this pit we hit a bunch of stairs and bch basically grinds on the right hand of them it's cuz afterwards we had to be on the right hand side so I was thinking I can't turn directly after I'm going to have to turn on the ramp like the CL the the course is split in two with like steps on the left and straight on the right and we go down the steps but like half dangling off yeah you have a choice whether to do jumps or not obviously we were going to do the jumps cuz you get docked time um no they add time on if you go round cuz it's a bit unfair yeah but we you were just like let's head it yeah and after the first jump it it looks like we really jump around I don't know about you but in it it didn't feel that bad I I think I'm the exact opposite cuz I was going flying and my bum still Hur May was our positioning or cuz I was holding on to this when yeah I had nothing to hold on to I was just sat on a blue seat I re yeah I reckon that's what it was cuz it kept me like sort of planted you fix and you're in the center so with us like when when you go off the Jump the nose sort of goes down yeah it did and then the back col kicks up into the air and then slams down and because I'm at the back you really got you know I've got a lot further to fall and I just got whacked and my butt like when I sit on the sofa like no I can feel it bruised on I was actually un unscared I was absolutely fine yeah God it was um after that first jump though I got a lot more confidence in the run I was thinking oh that was fine I can we can do all the [ __ ] jumps yeah I just got full speed no I rate it I'm so glad you just sent it cuz and you I mean you didn't have a choice sending it yeah you just you na yeah exactly you could SL down but uh I they miked us did they mic you up CU they miked me up but I said nothing the whole run yeah why would you you couldn't because the thing is I was so focused I think it's because we went so quick because there's a Red Bull posted a video on their Tik Tok page where because they miked up chip and freezy and um it's off chip speaking to freezy and he's like on the brakes off the brakes okay we're going to go around this now and I think it's CU they were using the brakes and communicating about the brakes that they had stuff to say but because we were just you told me before you weren't going to touch the brake so I thought okay he's really not there's no point saying anything and you know whether it's a Brak or not so I was just thinking I'm just going to drive I was literally only thinking like I'm only going to slow us down if I feel like at this speed we either can't hit that jump properly or can't go around the corner and I was just tickling it and it was only at the end like I was like I've got to wait until we cross the finish line before I can break and I just Ram it and because it was a friction break it's like literally a metal bar that just pulls down onto both of the rear wheels it just starts smelling like burning rubber actually nailed that was so good though cuz we literally landed after that last jump we landed and I was like [ __ ] the Finish is right there and all I could hear was I just knew he pulled that thing so hard we came around the corner and didn't touch a single thing because he broke just in time yeah and the thing was untouched like the they said they it could get sent back to one of us so I send it to my house um I got I didn't tell you this yet I got a DM from someone saying I'm just about to watch your soap box get destroyed what no it's been graveyard we took it to a graveyard but we put it to one side no they told us we could have it uh yeah oh the guy might be lying I I pray he is cuz that's so harsh but I saw it in the DM request I was like [ __ ] surely not we should M message Adam but I think a big part of the reason we couldn't speak or do much else is because we weren't so full s we did that in 36 seconds chip and freezy were the second fastest in our group I think and they were 44 seconds yeah so we were we were literally seven or eight seconds I mean I don't exactly know what their milliseconds were but we were seven or eight seconds faster than them and I mean the difference like you watch them go down and they're sort of doing a decent speed but I thought them being go- karters you know they've got their Senor frogs they race every year yeah I was like they're going to bomb it too yeah but they kind of just played it relatively safe I mean good time time but like I do think we we absolutely Center and we had this guy come up to us at the end like should you say yeah say and this guy comes up to us and go don't like freak out now or anything um but we're checking because we genuinely think this was one of the fastest of all time yeah like fastest soap boxes ever he thought we hit the world record run right there and then and they cuz they had to check them by the millisecond yeah and we were a fraction of a second off being the fastest ever 1 18 of a second something something ridiculous like that and uh so I think we were either the second or the third fastest of all time yeah there were rumors at the end of the day and I don't know whether it was Chip just winding us up being like the last car of the day was slightly faster yeah they they yeah they said something like the last car of the day actually broke the world record so if that is true we're the third fastest of all time if not we are the second fastest of all time to go down that track and we rather the second of the first fastest of this year's event which is just just the coolest thing ever like we to be fair have also like we couldn't have picked a design that was Better Built For Speed I mean it's so people were saying this is this is aerodynamic and I was thinking it is but I don't think it's going to make that much of a difference in this yeah scenario and whether it did or not or whether it was just the fact that you didn't break much yeah I think that was it it was quite heavy it was heavy as well you had one of the heavy ones so at the start you can tell this was one of the things we were saying we should have got two people cuz we only got Jake to shove us at the start yeah and when when you start off just going down the ramp it took us a while to pick up speed if we had sort of been shoved and started at a really good pace and kept it at that pace I genely think we could have built the record but I'm I want to do it again same that's why I wanted to keep that cuz we could have just modified that and send it down we know that's a winning formula yeah make it into a submarine or something yeah exactly that thing works but Red Bull like they they we had such a great time with them they did so much for us and we were so grateful and we were speaking see nothing guaranteed and stuff um but they were saying there's a potential for us to come back and maybe do the one that you know you launch off a ramp and you're like 10 m up whatever and you've got to Glide over water as far as possible there and there are loads of other sort of like cool Red Bull events and stuff to do so um yeah I think we make this a thing if we can do just more of this stuff yeah I loved it it was genuinely one of the best things I've ever done I think yeah and there's a the the the only annoying thing is there's so much footage it's going to take a while to get the video together because Red Bull have Clips we have clips they've sent us a hard driver clipse I've got stuff on my phone B has stuff on his phone Jake has stuff on his phone so we'll gather it all together but when the video comes out I think it'll be such a good one because so good the whole experience was just the coolest thing ever and we couldn't be more grateful to Red Bull for that the perfect run at the end we just ended it so perfectly the whole experience I think yeah it couldn't have gone better afterwards I so cool yeah I couldn't get the helmet off though we got to the very end I could not figure out how to unclip the helmet so I did the interview with a helmet on yeah they could not hear thing as well you hear me go oh the atmosphere was electric and I know he said the electric thing and then we um yeah we Kenny from South Park hanging out with us we to I finally I got someone to take my helmet off we drove the soap box down to the graveyard thing but they said they weren't going to break it we put it to one side it might be broken and then we had to run up the hill because we had to get on the live stream to do an interview straight afterwards yeah and oh my God you realize how far we came down Running Up That thing that it was 400 to 500 M back up a relatively Steep Hill on a very hot day we were exhausted from the day before and uh being out the night before and having the race and all that kind of stuff and in boiler suits and it was a hot day boiling I got so sweaty at the top we got to the top and we were like that was just a thoroughly unenjoyable experience but it was cool cuz there I heard I don't I think I told you at the time I heard a kid as we ran past he was like oh my God racers felt like an F1 driver in that moment yeah that really went straight to my head yeah I bet we felt a lot cooler than we probably looked just running around in boiler suits and I'm my Red Bull cap on we had shades on surprised he hasn't got that red bull cap on today by the way that thing you're going to have to peel that off his dead body I've been wearing it so much lady just cuz I I love it it's good for green screen stuff that is the one thing I I might start wearing cuts out the wispy hair yeah it cuts out the wispy hair which kind of ruin the illusion I've got that real issue whereas when you wear a cap it's like a smooth round thing and the green screen just looks much better I see my editors have all been like wear a cap as often as possible oh so they even so they tell you what to do huh you're not Char they do interesting well I keep my editors locked away and then I give them footage and they're like please I want to see my family please share an editor now no King yeah we do shout out king great honestly fantastic worker his work ethic he sent me a video and like couple hours later he was like actually here's a V2 I watched it back and I I could see some improvements I was like kind of mentality and he's not been editing for long either yeah so he's I think all selft talk cow's amazing as well they're both just great honestly yeah people listening a fascinated here about how much we love our tives yeah let's get back to the Red Bull so box race so then we did our interview at the very top which is when cuz we went down first so we were Then followed by all the other creators who did the race um we didn't really get to see them at the time cuz we were running up the the bloody Hill but um we got to the top they all slowly joined us did their interview and then it got revealed the scores so there were different categories we were like ranked on or scored on the first being performance and I I'm pretty sure the style of the cart comes into that as well yeah and so we what did we get like what was it 20 22 it was really bad 40 terrible score we got like a seven a six a three and a five something like that whoever gave us a three what's wrong with you huh they were grumpy though cuz I think chip and frezy got something like 39 and the guy that person gave them a nine apparently they were really mean scoring the whole time that's crazy but chip and fzy knew about the performance thing which we I know how they knew about that we had no idea chip and freezy raced as a box of 20 chicken McNuggets yeah and they brought like homemade barbecue sauce and just on each other yeah pry just poured it all over them it was good like as performances go that's like the best thing you can do yeah so they got a really great score like almost perfect just one guy dropped a mark on it um 39 out 40 but I feel like I feel like giving us a three was really harsh I know our performance wasn't great but the music was very fitting yeah and maybe we should have pretended we were on the moon with our jumping or something like walking like that he just had such a cool carard we had so little time to think about it yeah I feel like it was harsh though look at our car that was really cool yeah maybe we were also ranked harshly because we were the first creators to go down maybe maybe we would have got a better score if we were towards the end I don't know yeah maybe but um yeah we did really bad on that and then you get obviously score for your speed in finishing the race yeah which we smashed Everyone by like four four seconds or something or seven or eight yeah like seven or eight seconds Quicks first to second and the second fastest and I think Becky and pieace got a dnf finish either they hit a minute or they stopped completely yeah cuz they went over one of the jumps and then front end broke so the wheel wasn't really like or the front was touching the floor dragging across the floor so they just I felt bad for them they just ped all across but at least they got down in one piece that's the they were just in a pint glass yeah it was really cool and they had a they had a cool performance Becky poured pint on um pie which was funny um con and Jack had a cool performance they just had some Swagger about it like yeah it was cool oh yeah we got picked on the performance but they did struggle getting into the vehicle did they yeah CU it's really hard and narrow to get in um they got they everyone got all the way to the end by the way Colin Jack fell over at the end there thing just went on its side they they chose thinner Wheels I didn't think they were going to make it that far yeah they also had a really high center of gravity cuz their car was thin and quite tall yeah like if you looked at their car it looked like it wanted to fall over it was a bit like chitty chitty bang bang but like elongated yeah so they did really well to and they were drifting it as well it was drifting so they did really well to get to the bottom um but yeah we were like seven seconds quicker than seven or eight seconds quicker than the second fastest which was it chip and freezy or was it Con I think it might have been no chip and frezy was Heavy wasn't it to be fair so that would move um and then there was People's Choice which we said we won 49% and was those were those those three so I think the reason so we ended up coming third we came third out of the four I just think it wasn't like cuz we won two out of three categories you'd think we'd win but I think they gave they were sort of like weighted yeah so because we were so low on the performance us being ahead on the other two bits didn't pull us up enough I think it's really harsh I think it doesn't matter at all by the way I don't I don't care but I do think it's harsh that performance is weighted so heavily in comparison to like speed has got to be the most important thing yeah like it's a race I know that's that's the way we were looking at it that's because it's a race come on we were focus on the race as aspect obviously soap boxes isn't Formula 1 is supposed to be like a bit of fun cretive stuff which you do get um but yeah hard winning two out of three categories and winning the race comfortably well it was more like at in the moment when they were revealing who won out of us four I was thinking in my head oh we've definitely won yeah after winning we got like 50% of the votes for People's Choice so it was a landslide Victory they said and a landslide Victory on the speed so I was thinking we have smashed those two things so surely we've gained loads of points for that yeah and we came third I was like I'm actually quite shocked by that I in my head I was thinking oh my God we've won yeah but um no it was so means anything like there's I don't there's nothing for it yeah I was just surprised but genuinely so it was so good yeah it was it was definitely definitely one of the best things I've ever done I was so glad that we did it I can't wait for the proper video to come out and have it all like a documentary s of documented archive just being like Oh I can look back at that video that was a banger yeah oh it was it was really good um then we stuck around and watched some public racing um and yeah there was it was it was nice there was a nice like area where you could get food and stuff and the worms showed up oh yeah lots of the patreon supporters a couple of N and non patreon people showed up lots of podcast people I'm guessing everyone there was podcast listeners because I didn't really put it on any platform no I think it it was all podcast we spoken about on the on on the podcast and in the patreon group chat quite a lot yeah and that was pretty much it so thank you well regardless if it's yeah thank you guys for coming along cuz it was so nice speaking to everyone great really great to have your support um yeah and yeah you guys were there for most of the day just like stood by our um what do you call it Soap Box stood by our Soap Box we were coming over when we could to say hi and stuff yeah everyone got photos we oh my goodness quite a lot of people wanted us to draw tattoos for them oh dear and we are not artistic no we're close yeah I'm a letter away but I not draw sa in my life and I was like the only thing I could think of was the rocket emoji yeah that was pretty good to be fair I was trying to draw them but getting the three little things at the bottom and the fire I was like I was like show this to your artist and they'll get what I'm trying to draw yeah they'll understand I mean I just ended up drawing flowers CU it's the easiest thing to draw it's got nothing to do with me a lot of art what just happened you just got bored of your own conversation I just yawned I was hoping you take it off me really quickly cuz I yawned no someone asked for a cameo once where they were like can you draw something for us to do a tattoo and I did a a ringed planet oh nice and oh my goodness trying to get cuz obviously if you put the circle there first the ring that goes in front like cuts through lines and it looks crap so you've kind of got to start with the ring but obviously just as the ring curves back around you have to stop and then you have to imagine where the sphere is going to be and oh my goodness I burnt through about half this notebook trying to get one that just looks semi-reasonable so whoever invented Saturn fair enough yeah exactly that must have been difficult and Uranus yep that's also ringed yeah um many too many rings yeah I've got a ring do you oh yeah and that weekend batch proposed to me so I said yes no I'm talking about my ass what anyway um it was it was a different kind of proposition to the one you were thinking of yours is way cuter than mine and I said no oh hell no I just got that that's disgusting cuz I was like on Saturday night we were just chilling we were like go we're exhausted yeah and I was like do you want to just stay around and Bach was like yeah so we played fornite and watch scary movies yeah he took me to get sushi again yeah we went to sticks and Sushi again but I was like I kind of want to make more videos but we were just so tired yeah I it was too late you just what you made me watch horror stuff we we watched a bunch of scary videos on YouTube like real ghost sightings and short horror movies and I was like I've wanted to do videos like that with you ages I was like then was the perfect time but our energy was just shock yeah we'll do it we'll definitely do it another time though CU people just love that love that horror game yeah is entertaining to watch other people get scared people don't want to watch you have fun they want to watch you cringe and be scared people enjoyed us having fun of Minecraft true but you were scared of I died like five six times I'm not very good clearly everyone's making fun of me did I die once I didn't I don't think no but your spirit died at one point hell no my spirit my spirit was always my spirit were through the roof um when I was getting attacked by Leona Lewis and I was hiding in the house turns out Leona Lewis can't go in water so I should have just gone in water I saw that comment yeah thanks for that thanks for the comment I'm actually going to use that logic and I I already want to film episode three right now do you yeah it was so fun we'll do it this week actually it's so fun like I enjoy playing it we're just loading up M fil although he needs a he needs a setup can we can we tell this boy to put some money towards a proper setup he plays on his PlayStation so we have to play Bedrock Edition so I can't use my nice shaders that make the waters and everything look clean and all the like graphics and stuff you know the like it's T's water we're keeping it the graphics upgrades are insane look just just a bit enjoy a humble bit of like Minecraft where it's nostalgic not everything has to be polished yeah okay fine um but no it was it was really good fun and it is it is I do love that we can just do that kind of stuff and just play a game and it would be fun yeah um we can just like high five when we want yeah anyway um back to let's go back in time to um the end of the race he wet himself no he didn't he didn't no he didn't but um I just want to make sure that we covered everything no because we didn't speak about um the stunt the stunts oh yeah you should tell them about the stunt they they just flung on you they didn't tell you until yeah they didn't tell me about this before and they made me sign my rights away yeah and it it was they had already Ked off the live stream so you just had to do it yeah um we basically batch got nice one he got pulled aside and they were like oh is the driver we're testing your reflexes yeah and what did they do they so she dropped a ruler and you just had to grab the ruler um as soon as she dropped it and just see how many centimeters you let drop to judge your reaction time I didn't do I think I came second actually nice but on the practice I failed uh so I was like oh that was nice and peaceful and fun I wonder what mine's going to be and they get me and they they I put this heart monitor on and I was like what they put this heart monitor on me put me in the middle of this cage and this dude called like Douglas or something comes up in this massive dirt bike and just goes like I'll lie down in the middle and I was like I know exactly where this is going got R to me and Jack just start planking and he's sort of in this giant he giant of a man I swear he's like 6'4 in this massive dirt bike and he's sort of there like on one wheel bouncing the like wheel like an inch from my head and I'm like if he just if anything misjudges he crushes my skull yeah like we we we lose one of the Bright Young talents of this generation and you as well wait what do you mean well they'd get Jack and you oh yeah yeah good old Jack and then then he was doing like wheelies around your head like just driving past full speed past his head yeah it was giving me the E actually see lie down there insane and I was just like well I'm playing it cool cuz that's like the name of the game it'd be cringe if I got up and I mean they they even said that if you get up you're at risk of just getting your head whacked cuz he's like an inch within your head so if you move it until you die yeah um and for like a minute he just did this and bounced around and yeah you were down there for a hot minute yeah we were there for ages just getting driven around I thought oh this is just getting this is just cruel now yeah I mean the poor boy is just lying there with a boner by the way uh because he gets that happens when he gets scared just why you think I keep getting you for horror games oh no i h on a Bo so he's just doing circling circling circling around Arthur on the floor it just I just felt a bit sorry for him in the end yeah uh so that was terrifying but good F night you know I'm up for anything I did realized the other day I'm just one of his friends who's just up for thing yeah you are actually someone could be like hey we're going to sit inside and watch movies tonight I be like fine or they can be like come on man we're robbing a bank I'm like cool they'll be like come on going glamping for the weekend do you is that real though if I said or okay let's go and watch the Euros tonight fine let's do it England England this is the last night of the group stage and all of a sudden the mood is really dead because we're just through now we've not played well either it's been pathetic there I said it and Harry Kane when you finally come on this podcast I've got some strong words to have with you mine mine Reserve is Gareth Southgate and not bringing BR and not playing kobby Mayu okay sorry Harry Kane actually way he's playing phenomenally to be not as if we're missing him but I'm mad at you Southgate yeah Italy um not playing too bad oh my goodness you're Italian did you watch the game last night and they scored the 90th plus eight to go through 98th minute it was the draw against Croatia oh that was heartbreaking poor the thing is they probably would have gone through anyway as one of the people third but um it's nice to confirm it you know yeah those moments of elation just so hard I think Italy just like a decent Striker anyway we won't bore you with football because a lot of people probably don't care about football yeah um but yeah I mean I'm getting into F1 now yes you are you watch drive to survive right yeah I've been watching drive to surv I need to get on that I really want to watch that um and hence why the Red Bull so box race I was really in I was really in my element Because You Loved does it make you love Red Bull as well the driver to survive does it follow a particular team it follows the mall and to be honest I haven't really got like a team I really um it's not like I really want to see this team win it's more people that you care about it's good to see Red Bull doing well but um I like Lando do you yeah you're Lando Norris enjoyer I'm a Lando enjoyer I like them all to be fair from what I've seen I like I get I like Char all oh cuz he kind he kind of looks like Charles mclair uh yeah I get uh Lando Norris a lot people always say like L nor I'm not sure about that boy and uh obviously like V stappen red the Red Bull goat what batch V stappen high five what does that even mean batch for steppen me batch for steppen batch for steppen me instead of Max for Sten batch for Sten it's one of the only times that batch really goes into anything batch for Sten what do people nickname you at school get tuna boy cuz I've brought in tuna fish boy uh right I was going duckling I was going for more names like name related like okay because I was oh name related I was I was called nothing I was just called Arthur I don't know why I said it like that I was called Nothing me yeah had no friends at school no I didn't really people would say ice as a joke ice yeah I just I didn't like not having a cool nickname name my sister one of my sisters calls me Izzy that's really cringe and feminine yo she watches these which is fine yo she watches these apologize down the lens right now I apologize nothing cuz it is it was true it was my truly held opinion and you should never apologize for being yourself sometimes she calls me Elizabeth as well what and I don't really know where she got that from she started that was a good what what yeah she watches it where she works as she was working she'll have it on Gizzy by the way I didn't get cancelled for what Sunday came out where I waterboarded Chris I haven't watched that and I was seriously worried I was genuinely like I thought you know just some people on the internet can be real yeah cuz they might be like oh you're making fun of water boarding people actually die from water boarding that's not what I exactly what I meant oh because okay you can't waterboard Chris because he doesn't like water and some people have been drowned before no okay of course because because you shouldn't do water boarding because it's like saying this is something you should it's really on impressionable fans and they'll be like okay I'm going to water board my mom tonight right maybe maybe that was like oh you shouldn't do that on to an impression I'm going to cancel you right now in that case um but no I I I just thought people would be like oh that was so mean of him they're not friends like just you know when you don't really know I mean obviously anyone who's seen Chris and videos knows how much abuse he puts me through I mean that guy abuse shs down on my neck like there's no tomorrow he's just I I'll just be chilling mid shootting he'll just go on my traps I mean granted they're juicy like they're nice muscular defined um have you ever thought you might just be a vampire I don't know hiding in plain sight you know you've got two Pierce marks right there you getting sucked by you've got really garlicky breath so I don't think I could be a a vampire cuz otherwise let's not start rumors like that otherwise I'd run there's not start rumors like that yeah my breath smells like daisies rainbows fairy tales I'm always chewing gum you are always chewing gum you're a real gum chewer yeah it Bo it boosts your confidence it's like putting a pair of sunglasses on I'm glad you don't do it on the podcast that would be the most annoying thing to listen to I have done it before but I just tuck it into my teeth like snz you don't mean that it's gum you don't mean that it's gum it's just weird you don't mean that it's gum gum started freaking out you know we were speaking about eggs the other day when you you're Midway through eating heads and you're like wait up yeah that's a period something ain't right that's a menstrual cycle raor and you're like yeah well that weirdly makes me like it more it's more than I knew you were a feminist me too come on yeah um we do like to bring awareness to the fact that women exist and have Cycles cuz I I I mentioned menstrual cycles all the time and I in one of my YouTube videos I was like I've got to stop saying menstrual cycles drop a comment if you think I should stop saying menual cycle everyone's like no and someone's like no it actually feels kind of feminist in a weird way cuz you're bringing light to the fact of cuz not everyone knows that women have I think everyone knows women have periods I found out 3 days ago watching your video you thought they had penis what I just thought they merely existed they merely exist in a in a realm Between Heaven and Hell where somewhere I love doesn't exist what the hell is this guy talking about women only exist in heaven women are heaven on Earth in my opinion how does that song Go heaven heaven for what it's worth women are heaven on Earth women are heaven on Earth brother in Christ you don't know what you're talking about right now I feel like we're getting on to Serious brain rot have you got anything else this is a rare batch prepared actually been praying preparing a lot um all of the episodes lately we've actually yeah hence why the quality's increased um no you just you do stuff in a different way I like like reading and talking reading well next episode's prepared by by Arthur and we'll be filming this directly after this one yeah we're doing complet transparency cuz batch is way on holiday and I'm going to be honest because I'm not I've not brought a spare pair of clothes anyway yeah me neither I don't want to hear no comments like why is he wearing that shirt again well they should be comenting CU alth this on an episode before quite frankly Arthur is either can I just say by the way I predicted what you were going to be wearing on the Red Bull meal I said Arthur will turn up in Black corduroy shorts um and a cream beige top shirt either worn as an overshirt with a white t-shirt underneath or just a shirt that's exactly what you were that's true I mean I have two other pairs of shorts I had a black like pair that were like had textured but the waistband thing snapped hard to find a good pair of shorts and then I had a nice like cream beige pair yeah um but they were just like I don't know linen and just ended up being a bit too and take it from a guy a sleepover with him he doesn't take them off he showers in them he goes me to take them off he was like take them off take them off take them off and I was like leave me alone yeah I was like please wash please wash you were just misreading me I wasn't saying take them off I was like please wash please wash anyway I I got the um I went into the patreon chat o uh little plug if you want to join the patreon go ahead there's a chat you get early access to episodes they get uploaded all the time and Bullies me in it yeah I do speak in there a fair amount um and I said to them we're filming two pods today can you guys reply to this message with any questions you have about the Red Bull Soapbox race we're going to be doing a whole episode on it uh because I thought there might be you know they might want to know more information on how it was built or how we were feeling and stuff and we could just give us some insight to that we've just explained the day how cool it was blah blah blah but they want to know the BTS let's see how insightful their questions can be okay did you hurt your nose that's [ __ ] rude no I didn't that obviously pointed at you no I didn't to be fair I did we had said in an episode prior that there was no foam and we are going to smash our faces in they put foam in we had good helmets on but we didn't actually crash so yeah we didn't crash so although his coxic bone is in pain yeah my coxics I'm absolutely fine because I'm not weak that's your tailbone um may ask for us highly evolved Apes that was from Brooke by the way I'll say names shout outs May says how SL why did you decide to build a rocket why I guess cuz it's very on brand for us have a look at our mugs yep yeah I mean we're just we're were're a Spacey themed podcast for no apparent reason we genely I'm sure we said in the earlier episodes we had no plans to be themed and bats just randomly one day went let's just make it space themed I just think it's cool yeah me I just think we both think it's cool we do we just need a cool set I think most of the things we do is because we think oh that's cool like the Soap Box we thought oh it'd be cool if we did a a ship or a ufi yeah just cuz it just cuz it's funny someone actually messaged in for the next one I've got like the submissions from the normal submissions page which everyone can enter just go to our any of our socials at Bach and arur and in the link there's like a a link tree and one of them is the submissions form and they were like what is your target audience because I can't really figure it out and I'm studying media at the moment target audience is such a big thing and I was like we don't have one we just come on talk about whatever we find interesting yeah and just hope that some people agree yeah and the people who do listen are actually very um diverse yeah and intelligent and cool and good looking and all this yeah um so yeah no um yeah and it's weird because we're not sitting there going oh let's talk about this to appeal to this audience which I think is I mean somehow it works so thank you guys for tuning into thanks cuz I think if you analyzed it in like a media class and it was like oh one minute you're doing brain rot meme references and the next you're talking about s men and then the next we're talking about Greek philosophy and the next one like Roman Parables and then religion they'd be like well someone's going to listen to the one episode like it and then not like the rest yeah but for some reason people just like listening to it all really I think we just decided that we're just going to do what we want like yeah whatever we enjoy yeah like whatever we enjoy and whatever we F feel like talking about we're just going to do it because if you want to enjoy something you've like if you want this if we want this podcast to continue we've got to enjoy it and if we're looking at it tactically like Oh Let's do an episode on this so we can boost our audience in this demographic it will start to feel like a like a real job well like you know I've heard from other people that do podcasts that their producers will be like today you're having this guest on and they're like well I've never watched the show they're on or Never follow them don't care about the story but I've got to do it's nice that we kind of have a just able to just go oh whatever and I do think the stuff we talk about is interesting broadly like if you're someone who like whenever we meet or speak to anyone who watches the podcast they're always like oh I love like these types of interesting discussions I feel like if you have a generally curious mind yeah like if if people who are listening to this and enjoy it are going to be similar to us in that respect and they you know even if they don't have a an interest in any of the particular like they might be like oh I love hearing about religion I'm a curious person but they don't care about Greek philosophy yeah or anything when we speak about the ship of thesis they're still like oh it's an interesting thought like it's an interesting thought so if you're one of those types of people like us then all that kind of stuff is interesting I guess thus our our demographic is people who just have similar interests to us yeah or like have a similar outlook on life or yeah that's the thing it's not even like it's just it's the broad value of curiosity I think who just like they like to laugh they like a bit of Comedy cuz we even get people who disagree with us and they're like oh I'm religious I completely disagree with this all but it was so interesting to listen to and so they're not listening because we're speaking about things that they find um they agree with or they enjoy you know but they're going like oh like I like the way these topics are approached or the way this is discussed and yeah so yeah hopefully we'll try and keep that up um hey no way we're going to brain Rock 24/7 after here or no anyway um Connie asked what was your top speed we don't actually know but what did you think it was 30 well when we passed we passed the speed gate at what will be one of the fastest points and that was 30 okay mil K yeah km pH um Leia says do you think you were going to make it to the Finish Line did you think you were going to make it to the Finish Line I genuinely um did not think we were going to make it past the chicane to be honest yeah cuz I didn't realize the course was as wide as it was however the as narrow as it was you mean actually yeah yes and no the thing is it's like driving a car when you're in a car it looks like you're you're bigger than the road but actually you can fit in much smaller of a gap than you expect yourself to be able to and so when you're actually in the soap box when we were doing the chicane in my head I thought we're going to catch one of the hay bals and go flying but actually although it was actually pretty close watching it back it felt like I had enough room to get round and stuff well two hay bals we did fully slic through well yeah if the wings were like flat fronted we would have we could have just spun out flown but because the wings were just like yeah we the first one and then the second one we through that yeah um but in no I didn't think we were going to make it down in one piece to be honest I thought either we'd get to the end and there' be damage or we'd fall over at the end or we just wouldn't make it to the end cuz it's not a like it more often than not you don't make it to the end yeah so I thought statistically I didn't I didn't think we were going to make it to the end so I was surprised were you or not it's so funny because at the start you're like I really don't know but be when you're going down it's so fast and you've got to think a lot like yeah I was just constantly thinking like just monitoring whether we were going too fast or not to be like bring the speed down ever so slightly and it's everything's happening so fast you don't have time to think oh are we going to make it like any hypotheticals it's just uh pull the break break on break off break off oh my goodness are we going to make this corner are we going to too fast at how are we doing like all this kind of stuff's rushing through your head I didn't even think about it I was no so yeah I had no thoughts in my head either I think we were just on reflex at that point yeah because every yeah like Arthur said everything's coming at you so quick like before the chane I thought I had enough time to put my hand up and wave and I was like [ __ ] no I don't yeah so that's when I came back onto the wheel and did that so we really don't have much time in that thing um then Phoenix asks what was the hardest and easiest part of the creative process oh hard po was coming up with an idea for what we wanted to do as the car because we took ages like they were asking us for the design for so long and we were like we really don't know it is hard when you can do literally anything it's like the classic situation where you've got too much Choice yeah so you can't make a decision and neither necessarily creative creative types yeah so we and also it's it's difficult as well when there's two people because obviously if one person wants to do something we we agreed yeah we we didn't have any friction on what we wanted to do we because we both didn't really have an idea but you've got to make sure that what one person comes up with the other person's happy to do um but I think from the go we just suggested either a space shuttle or UFO we were both happy with those two ideas and then we had a look at some pictures and we thought okay let's go for a space sh that was it yeah so I think that um it was hard in the beginning but to to be honest the decision process was pretty easy for us in the end I do think the hardest part although that was hard I think what was harder for us was probably um building the chassis don't you think it was harder than the woodwork yeah that's probably true cuz we didn't have any engineer assistance with the underly car yeah the actual chassis itself we just had bits like we didn't have instructions for half of it we were in in a big Warehouse with just a bunch of nuts bolts rods	friction on what we wanted to do we because we both didn't really have an idea but you've got to make sure that what one person comes up with the other person's happy to do um but I think from the go we just suggested either a space shuttle or UFO we were both happy with those two ideas and then we had a look at some pictures and we thought okay let's go for a space sh that was it yeah so I think that um it was hard in the beginning but to to be honest the decision process was pretty easy for us in the end I do think the hardest part although that was hard I think what was harder for us was probably um building the chassis don't you think it was harder than the woodwork yeah that's probably true cuz we didn't have any engineer assistance with the underly car yeah the actual chassis itself we just had bits like we didn't have instructions for half of it we were in in a big Warehouse with just a bunch of nuts bolts rods	6	4	2	friction on what we wanted to do we because we both didn't really have an idea but you've got to make sure that what one person comes up with the other person's happy to do um but I think from the go we just suggested either a space shuttle or UFO we were both happy with those two ideas and then we had a look at some pictures and we thought okay let's go for a space sh that was it yeah so I think that um it was hard in the beginning but to to be honest the decision process was pretty easy for us in the end I do think the hardest part although that was hard I think what was harder for us was probably um building the chassis don't you think it was harder than the woodwork yeah that's probably true	yeah that's probably true	3,2,5	2,1,3	3	2	5	2	1	3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXPZ1KzdpsY	4,103	mXPZ1KzdpsY	2024-06-20 00:00:00	well well well ladies and gentlemen do we have a special episode for you today none other than sugar Shan om Ali the current UFC bantamweight champion a legend in his own right this episode was off the cusp we were a little turned up Jasper was really really drunk so we weren't really prepared for this at all the conversations definitely got wild and obviously as you guys have seen over maybe the past week or so we launched a new company called w am men's carine in Walmart this company is so near and dear to my heart and I partnered with Shawn to bring this Vision to life amongst other celebrities artists and athletes that we are announcing over the next couple of weeks here get your w at Walmart it is very very very very very good stuff and yes you heard the news I am fighting Mike Perry on July 20th it is going down I'm still fighting Mike Tyson November 15th that is happening but I'm staying active knocking out Mike Perry on July 20th and I'm excited for y'all to listen to this episode and he the vision of w how it all came together and how Shawn got involved and then everything to do with Shawn's career this podcast has been a long time coming but prepare yourself for some idiocracy per usual uh this is [ __ ] with Jake Paul we have a secret handshake check it out AC let me get that stop playing mean yeah we created that because we actually have so many things to get into here this has been a long time coming Jasper did bring up something and the reason W was created was because the other products in the category had harmful dyes parabens sulfates hormone disruptors and so we wanted to create the better for you vitamin infused product and and Sean's a co-owner just signed today yesterday for the show but we we'll get into all of that we we've been you know bringing sea on for like we've been talking for like a month and a half yes sir yes sir um it is currently May we've been doing a lot of shoots this podcast will probably come out at post W launch you can get I'm so drunk I'm sorry y'all you can get it in uh Walmart every Walmart you in Paca Walmart get it in you in Pensacola it's in Walmart in Kentucky Walmart Walmart so basically uh we we brought in the greatest people in the world to help build W and Sean is one of those people but dialing everything back we will get into the company the body washes how this all came about but uh we've been wanting to do this podcast and thanks for joining us BR hey guys hey thanks for joining us right did you uh yeah I did you sh for an hour bro did you did you do do we know do we set the stage of the day and the fact that Jasper's slash right now okay cool y drunk is a [ __ ] y like double drunk yep yep yep you drunk yeah all that so um but just winding everything back uh I think we've been friends for a long time in fact you were the first guest on this show oh [ __ ] crazy Zoom crazy that's right that's right that's right the first ever episode you zoomed in and that's crazy we're thankful we're thankful for our friendship and it's pretty cool that now we're here again today uh getting less views than before and that's fire that's it congratulations less views we're not we're not it was it was a joke it was a joke if you watching this please like and comment cuz we falling off right now but man by the time this comes out you're going to be getting ready for me RAB how do you say his name I don't remember morab is iTab or or I don't know me that's got to be it me but you got to say it with the emphasis look meab mirab meab meab there you go there you go so yeah I should be getting ready hopefully I ain't got nothing scheduled hopefully uh you know Uncle Dana will call me say hey buddy you want to fight in in here and there and there and then I'm d b boom and that that's how that works what's up with everybody on your body though everybody talking [ __ ] even people youat I wanted to bring up yeah and he's like saying like he's trying to post about you even yesterday it is weird but when you concuss someone you know what I just say they don't think as well as they used to so I think he's still concussed and he's a little confused because he's talking [ __ ] still he not in his right mind because I can just throw up another post go because it's a throwback Thursday it's a throwback Friday do you think do you think people don't respect you enough cuz I I see that as your friend an unbiased like they just see social media and podcasts and the the hair and stuff like that and then they just sh week but I [ __ ] with you I appr that um I don't think it is well you can't you know I think it's fine I think you're jealous I ain't going to lie I got some inches under here let's smell that hair you can smell my [ __ ] must who I do think I feel a little bit disrespected as the champ but I think that last fight against Che kind of you know shut a little bit of people up canny go five rounds Cheeto beat me before the Alo fight um shut a lot of people up canny grapple didn't have to Grapple cuz he couldn't take me down yeah Alo couldn't take you down I think that was the biggest thing where they were like yo that's his weakness like yeah wrestle him down and then he just proved everyone wrong that's what's so interesting about this morab fight is he's supposedly well he is he's [ __ ] good at wrestling he's really really good at wrestling he's boring as [ __ ] and no one will there won't be one comment saying yeah right he's actually kind of fun not one person I'm com won I'm com you can I ask you something would you put yourself in your own top five Strikers in the UFC oh I'm yeah yo easily who's your Mount Rushmore strikker well I I mean I would unbiasedly I would put him as number one because adna is in like top three but he also like got beat by put that [ __ ] down boy he did uh bro I'm up there I'm up there Max is really good Max super his striking that's a good top five there that's four me Max Elia adaga uh I'm sure I'm missing some your with a one would it be that's that's a minus one Mount rmore is four yeah but I only got four but if you throw the five in it's a plus one isn't there only four yeah but but you ready to throw the five up I'm four all right that's my more but yeah once again uh this is a [ __ ] ass podcast so we apologize hey but something something you just touched on you talked about Fighters being fun and interesting how much and you're you're a superstar how much of you being a superstar how much of any fighter being a superstar comes down to them being fun and interesting as you are and how much of it comes down to their actual fighting good question uh well who's a super who who obviously Connor comes to mind I think he's he's a character he's fun he's interesting who else comes to mind is like a superstar I would say Izzy gives that off I think he's an interesting guy other than that there's not like a ton of fun like Ryan Garcia is doing a really good job right now of being [ __ ] interesting being a character uh I think that's fentel I think it's drugs as well I wouldn't deny that but he's still making people interested in Ryan versus Devon Haney was an interesting fight not because Devon Haney that dude's boring as [ __ ] you think he did them roids no I don't think Ryan did I think Devon needs to take that L he being a [ __ ] about I think the craziest [ __ ] you said to me and like I don't even know if we want to put this in there or bring it up but we we can always remove it but uh because of your your situation with the ostarine and you said to me like and it I like fully felt your energy you're like I swear on my daughter's life I never did that and you got popped for it yeah same thing happened uh to Ryan right now he popped for aost the low super low level a some [ __ ] like a trillionth of a gr the same thing happened to me uh so when that came out with Ryan like I truly truly didn't believe he took anything because it was the same [ __ ] and it happens to a lot of [ __ ] ostarine happens to how does that happen it's called the tainted supplement so if you're taking anything that has protein in it that's not third party tested uh could not just protein any kind of supplement that's not third party tested it's either NSF or there's a bunch of different third party tests but if you're not if you're taking something that doesn't have that there's chances there could be something in it but austram people pop for that all the time my case was not that big of a deal cuz I wasn't as huge of a star as I am now but it still was like a big deal because of my name the reason it's going so crazy right now is because Ryan G is a superstar so people are freaking out but it happens to a lot of athletes I just before we move past it I just on that Superstar topic how is that is that Superstar factor that that someone like you has someone like Ryan has someone like Connor has is it something you're born with or is it is it a practice is it something you can learn and do you sit back and like think like oh how can I go viral today how can I I think it's both I think you have to want to be a superstar there's some guys in the UFC like I want to make more money I want this I want that but they don't really want to be a superstar you you got to want it you got to you got to have some kind of vision a long time before well and and also like who you are as a person you have to have that like Fire Within still though like before you got into want famous I want to be in the NFL I want to be NBA I wanted to be a [ __ ] athlete when I was young was instilled I was just for whatever reason I wanted to make it when I was young I'm from H in Montana like small ass can I ask you something what's your opinion on like the take b nickel takes like where he's like super friendly and humble and like I think he's a sweet ass [ __ ] they love him but like bro that [ __ ] pisses me off I think that [ __ ] is cool too n like you're a hum like [ __ ] talk your [ __ ] you're what 670 like bro talk your [ __ ] like it it kind of bores me no I get yeah I mean that's that's some people's opinion is like he's too nice too humble too that but he's being himself um but he's also super young in the sport I think he and he's still pretty what is he 28 you're in a sport of War if I was playing like [ __ ] Cricket I would be like yeah like but that's that's the thing is for for for a character like him what it seems like is that's what he's in is the sport of war and that's it he's not in the sport of entertainment he's a nice ass sweetheart get there is some people that that understand both sides of things but I also have respect for and I see when someone's that's strictly in the sport of if I play chess with you I'm going to be like good game and I'm going to shake your hand I talk [ __ ] be F ass to a PO it I'm going to be like [ __ ] you you need to get better at whatever you're doing dial dialing it back a little bit um to the aost stream thing I think it's like what do you think about Conor tweeting still at like 3:00 a.m. like coked out he he he he sent shots at me and Ryan talking [ __ ] but it's it's crazy coming from Connor who literally got out of the usada pool to do steroid like legit steroids so it's kind of wild and I was the biggest Connor fan for a long time in the last couple weeks ever since he sent that wasn't even a couple weeks ago probably a week ago I've been trying to hate him I've been trying to be like [ __ ] you Connor but I can't I love Connor I it's like I am excited for his fight coming up I'm excited I want you know I'm all about it what's the fight is it Chandler Chandler in June it's going to be big they just been trying to do it for a long time so I didn't know if it still still I think officially I think it's I think I think the craziest part about it is what like eight weeks before a fight that he's still like coked and drunk out of his mind who you got though who that's a good it is crazy that he still like he tweeted that deleted like 20 minutes later he was definitely [ __ ] up on well that's what I was going to say we can't just Grace past that do you is that that's a that's a bold thing to say do you you know he's on coke is that a is that are you [ __ ] gills I don't know anything but I know for certain that he's brother like look at the time of the tweets and look at what he's saying like also and he's like known for this simar tweets yeah yeah I don't know just manic brother I think he is I do think Ryan is I think he when he said he was playing into it a little bit I I think he's kind of using that I think he's [ __ ] crazy what what what would happen if you and Ryan boxed that's I mean there's only one way to find out he has a lot better chances of beating me in a boxing match than he does in a real fight keep up I do I I [ __ ] I truly believe in myself that's how I got to the [ __ ] position I'm in right now I can box I can throw hands um I don't think it'd be easy by any means I do think it's possible I beat him I'm not saying my my odds are great but I do believe I could beat Ryan Bo if there was anybody you could box for your first boxing match debut who are you Bo give an easy fight give me Deon Haney you give [Laughter] me honest answer uh I mean if we're I I would say Floyd if I Pi if I could sit here and pick who I box first boxing fight I pick Floyd because it would be the biggest most crazy most legendary fight maybe not most legendary some people for me okay but outside of that on a skill based level oh I I could hang with some good [ __ ] pro boxers I'm undefeated in boxing you think you think if you and uh ilot boxed that' be ilot is very very [ __ ] skilled boxing that's an interesting question so who what what professional boxer would you equate your PA Mike Tyson I know of Devon Haney now because Ryan Garcia beat him uh dvon Davis he's really short I know him um maybe smacking [ __ ] up though he does he that little guy he can't he can't ride roll coasters though that is true so there's a there's a tradeoff like Cruz fight he was riding a roller coaster no like I'm talking about like at the fair oh no you know like there there's a trade-off in life you know where things get weird it's like it's like yo he's really good but you can't even just hit Dante fan brother can't even ride the top not a Dante fan that's not what I'm wait what did what did I say to say I'm not a you didn't say I mean I don't think he knows that it's a short joke I don't think he picked up on you want me tell him I was joking shut the [ __ ] up I get I say that was a joke I'm what are you trying to say I'm but are you trying to insinuate that I'm short no honestly you're probably what five you're 5'9 you're like 5' seven and a half stop doing stop doing it stop doing that cuz [ __ ] is going to see this and be like he's 5'6 actually if you watching this and you think I'm 5'6 and you want to try me in person please any [ __ ] who see me out I'm punching your [ __ ] out I'm like 5'9 on a good day when when I'm lying to women I'm 5'10 for sure who's gonna ID me I'm wearing forces I'm a [ __ ] liar all right so now for the truth jakee he's like what like he's 5 No but don't do that bro all right all right we won't we'll cut that out like yeah n don't cut it out n don't see me and see these but you know dvon is 5'5 legit that's cool bro I know but is that not short just be honest is that five five short for a grown man for a grown man is that short you can be a fan I'm not I'm a fan of javante and he's five that's a little little bro all right the joke went over his head anyways so the short joke [ __ ] is trying to play me like I'm short no no no we're we're not we're not you're [ __ ] tall all right let's pivot yeah so um SI yeah sh shout out to the shout out to the pivot but but yeah like Jasper's a little riled up things are on edge he's a little he's a little turned up it's been a long day a long two days we've been shooting uh because we have a new [ __ ] company did we say we talk about that yet I we said in the beginning raise your arms up [ __ ] goed [ __ ] goed shout out to w a fun few days it's been a fun few days days you're going to see the content rolling out um but you speaking of but Ruby Rose did a good job oh my God I wanted to bite that M listen anyway if you're near wmart if you're watching this right now I don't give a [ __ ] what you're doing you could be taking care of your kid you could be taking care of your elderly parents [ __ ] them go to Walmart June 1st Nationwide I don't care if you in Pensacola you in Massachusetts all in places that sound [ __ ] stupid there's a Walmart there and you go there it's a better for you product vitamin ifuse number [ __ ] one yeah no basically I I think dialing back like the business story of it because you're also like a very smart businessman intellectual doing everything you do in and outside of the Ring which a lot of people don't have which contributes to you being uh the biggest in my opinion the biggest UFC star um but yeah we we basically I guess this is the podcast where we tell people where W came from but um we started building this company like a year and a half ago and really saw how all these other companies like as we move into better for you products and less harmful products we saw how the leaders in the space didn't have the best formulas didn't have the best manufacturing had all of these harmful substances in it and we're also brands from when I was like 9 years old I don't want to list names but they're still like having all the Shelf space in stores and I was just like this is wild like this is boring this is lame the the the we need something new we need something that's better uh males have vitamin uh deficiencies like crazy especially with magnesium Jasper just can't get enough of it uh especially with magnesium um and biotin is in the body wash uh vitamin E one two of the best vitamins for your skin and hair um but as The Story Goes long story short we we come up with this brand that represents so many things um but I think winning in everyday life whether you're the valedictorian whether you are the high school jock whether you're philanthropist now you have a product that you can embody and wear every single day that's increasing your vitamin intake that is less harmful to you that's where the idea came from and just being the winning formula in category uh went to Walmart pitched them the whole idea they [ __ ] loved it helped us build the brand even and come up with the scent profiles and all the things that are the the most popular um and this has been something I've wanted to do for so long we had to bring in the best people to be a part of it the winners in their category and that's number one Numero Uno sha Ali here um and he instantly saw the vision and already in the past couple of days it's been like super fun filming all the content behind yeah I was pumped when you [ __ ] called me appreciate you thinking of me and uh excited to help grow this business [ __ ] it's needed it's needed we're going to take over the whole bathroom you know tooed if you [ __ ] with the dogs and cows and chickens dog in you I know what I got that dog in me and I use it so be dog free baby am I missing anything with that no I think that was great the one the one thing I would touch on and you did in a way but it's it is body wash it is body spray it is deodorant but it also is there's an ethos that stands behind this brand which is the ethos that you stand for and it's the ethos that you stand for and the ethos that you stand for and the one that I stand for if I say ethos again I'm GNA start stumbling over my words but it's it's it's like you said it it doesn't the winners in life aren't just you you're on a big stage in life you're you're you're crushing it in every aspect financially you're a star you're leading your sport that's awesome on every [ __ ] level it's it's an encouragement to to young men all around the world to [ __ ] get up off their ass and get sh it don't matter if you score high on a test you whatever the [ __ ] it is that you do well maybe not so it matters what the [ __ ] you do but it also doesn't matter what the [ __ ] you do anybody is a winner as long as you put in the work and you have the will to win and I love it I I would say that's wrong I would say that not anybody is a winner and I think that's something that the brand also stands for like you really got to win you got to as you have the will to win no I'm just saying I think that's an important point cuz we live in a world today where a lot of people think everybody can be a winner that's not true if you Los you might be a loser and if you're a loser the good news is there's a hidden l in the logo actually we'll trace it for you with our graphic design team there's a hidden l in the logo because and I I I wanted to make sure that was was a thing because the biggest loss of my life turned out to be the biggest W in my life and I always had the saying like two L's make a w and when I lost to Tommy Fury it was embarrassing all these things but I realized I wasn't focused I wasn't as locked in as I could be the team around me from a boxing standpoint wasn't good I was having personal issues with relationships and all of these things that I had to shed and grow from and I grew into this new and completely different person but I wouldn't have done that if I didn't lose on the biggest stage possible and I think that was part of the ethos ethos ethos ethos of the brand was to encourage people that in their lowest moments to turn those into into their biggest W's eventually when Jake just said that the biggest loss of his life ended up being the biggest W of his life you said same yeah yeah same what what was that story for supposedly lost for lost to Cheeto back in 2020 August it it was I mean it sucked at the time but I it didn't suck too bad because I was like okay I didn't lose because I you know and it was different I wasn't I mean I was focused everything went good training camp everything was good but I was like that sucks I'm goingon to get that back someday when the time is right and then my last fight two two months ago in Miami headline I'm the champ defending my belt against that same guy how rewarding was that three and a half years later August three and a half years later boom beat his ass as a fan of yours it made it so sweet because of all the doubters that constantly like put you down and didn't believe in you and said he was going to destroy you and then you he literally like you embarrass him that was a performance of a life you embarrassed the [ __ ] out of him and I think that's literally a prime example of turning l l into into a w and I really that's what that's where the hidden l in the brand in the logo is um and representing that every single day when you see these products in your bathroom and when we say we have a saying it's not just a product it's a lifestyle absolutely trademarked Incorporated All Rights Reserved 2024 brother uh but but yeah man it's it's an honor to have you a part of this and uh we we really made what we think are the best products on the market from the body wash being exfoliating vitamin infused to the body spray what we found out is a lot of these fragrances like you get like these high-end designer brands that have like $500 colognes turns out it only cost them a dollar to make that and they're literally making like $499 on top of that so we had a fine fragrance house is what these places are called and we got the super expensive scents and gave it to people to what they're worth like we're not trying to these products are super super affordable and I think it's so funny because that's the world we live in where like you just label something and get like a European girl to go this is one of the lower priced men's care products on the market yeah if I'm not mistaken and it's it's the $500 fragrance in the affordable bottle because we want everyone we've been using a body wash in the past two days since we got the samples after the shoot and I personally want to say I got the in there you could bleep it out whatever you want to do W's winning n b genuinely that's that's the saying is the it's winning formula cuz it really is like it really is if if we're going to call our company [ __ ] W it has to be the best we the winners winning product indeed indeed winning customers all that type of [ __ ] indeed better Derek today he's just got a punch I'm not Li I talked to him before he left he wants to punch you up bro he's got a punchable face I like him though it's weird it's like God I like that guy but I want [ __ ] KO pick him up and like it's okay boom one more to the liing me earlier and I'm just letting you know don't shoot the messenger on God he said he wants to get in the ring with you I can call him really he oh yeah he he you want to call him yeah where is he at is wait uh no call no call he's coming up oh um he's talking smack he said he actually wants a spar I swear to God he said he wants to get percentage should I go you guys I literally out let that's crazy timeing saying talk [ __ ] to my face if you're going to talk [ __ ] that's crazy timing what were you saying they were telling me you want to get in the ring and Spar bit or they didn't say Spar they said fight yeah I'm down to do either but uh yeah no I'm just sick of the [ __ ] [ __ ] you've been saying on your podcast uh you called me you made fun of my weight and you called me gay I did not no I well okay okay you said that he wouldn't ever say that what you got to say what your chest that's what I just [ __ ] said bro I he was like oh if I if stand on it you talking to him you talking to him you ain't talking to me my assistant Sono would would piece you he's never boxed a day he never I'm here to fight your video I'm here to fight you what did I what was the first thing I said to you when when I saw you what was the first thing I said to you that we could fight no I said you look thick wait but when we were talking earlier weren't you saying he's a [ __ ] and you wanted to get a ring with him and all type [ __ ] what I'm saying right now say it then I just said the [ __ ] ring so we can after this we have a ring 2 feet away and he's a [ __ ] and whatever else you was saying to me yeah he's [ __ ] what about my hair say something about my hair I I already said that at the W shoot that you look like you haven't showered in [ __ ] a week okay all right d hey buddy hey hey what's your long-term play not no but see you guys you guys are making me seem crazy you're out of your mind he Derek Dereck go warm up hit the hit the heavy back H the warm up is almost listen legendary as send location dble PIV go warm up hey hey double pivot sit sit I'm not [ __ ] no I I'll sit and talk but I'm not [ __ ] no sit on the floor walk you want to take my seat hey how much how much of what's going on ch ch how much of what's going on is is a character versus like actual delusion how much is a character yeah decent uh I would say there are times where I know what I have to do for my boxing career to like like we all why is he laughing cuz you said career I beat your [ __ ] boy your [ __ ] [ __ ] bro you know what I I recall you did beat I recall calling steiny saying what the [ __ ] was that buddy I love steiny but I do remember watching that and thinking I wasn't proud of that I was not proud of that from steiny and I wish I wish he would come to the gym I wish he'd get in there I wish he'd train a little bit and I wish he would have a rematch but that's on him I've been trying to get the rematch but he's been ding me do you think Derek won he said I won I thought I thought he won I'd have to rewatch but I do think I come on baby the comments have [ __ ] dragged me for months after that [ __ ] 99% of the comments say I lost so please say it one more time Sean no I said it what I said it's like therapy or something no but to answer your question uh we all know uh uh as Fighters there's a side of promotion stop [ __ ] first of all Gus shut the [ __ ] up our our audio guys uh like can't stop laughing is that the facial his facial hair or is what he's saying bro that's bold of you to talk facial hair bro that's bold of you to I'm not Li you look dirty you look like Jeffrey done training right Jesus I train every day but anyway we know like there's two sides of of promotion as well as the actual athletic competition that is Combat Sports so there are times where I might play up a little bit like hey promoting but let him go let him go all right if you if all if you think I'm all promoting that I'll see you in the [ __ ] ring and I'll knock both you either of you out well um well Jake's a [ __ ] fat [ __ ] right now he weighs like 240 so I got I goty I gotta pick my words wisely like he's Jake's 240 I I know I know but like I'm not going to sit here and pick a fight against somebody that's 240 when I'm se's my weight class when I stopped you in one round like just like but when I was getting started out of come this is where I'm at since then I told him he could have somebody tag team I'm down I'm down to fight anybody in this [ __ ] room not one person in this room I'm the best part about this is like uh right after this we I think you're you're down to do like one round or three minutes right I mean I'd prefer 12 but we okay yeah 12 I mean that my biggest advantage in the ring ring is my cardio I do 12 12 okay so no I have a genuine question so five round I'm not I'm not one have I ever said I'm a UFC fighter no I'm just say we can box I'm just saying that's I'm used to five you want to do three we could do that aren't you trying to be a boxer with your [ __ ] Ryan Garcia call he would knock knock your [ __ ] ass out so quickly it wouldn't be close I'm one and0 pro boxing what are you actually I saw that video I saw video I'm also want to know thank you officially hey they count that's real commiss but uh I didn't mean I didn't mean to take I didn't mean to take over the pot I just wanted to a couple you definitely didn't yeah okay I try I'm trying to help you no we love you go warm up yeah yeah go warm up the bags don't warm up too much though don't get tired how much do you wa right now without Timberlands and jean shorts on high 120 low 13 no without lying though okay that [ __ ] is you think you got you got him one round I think I could beat him I think I can beat him I I think I could handicap myself to three just put on one glove I could do that what do you think actually happens now when you go downstairs and he gets in that ring like what's his plan that's what I don't get about him but that's why it's that's do me a favor that's why he's Cloud it up because love [ __ ] up [ __ ] he's going he's going to try to Yap he's going to try to talk please just go 100% yeah no actually actually please go 100% if he signs a consent form we'll have him no we've already got like multiple consent forms for better media with like death wavers [ __ ] no no no but he needs it he needs that I'll go like 40 no go like 75 Sean I'm I'm going to be honest bro don't even go 20% he's the nice [ __ ] bro don't do that bro you want him to go 100% no no to be honest but just like work with him and then just like maybe just just like a really good punching and then he'll give up 75% uh I'm nervous man I'm shaking for Derek yeah yeah that's good I understand that there a couple flinches if you Flinch hard enough the the wind coming off you will put him down let him walk you down and bait him boom sleeping what's your next upcoming fight a maraba jaaba and when is that uh not nothing yet I'm hoping for September maybe October maybe November maybe December I'm F ready to go baby what if it was next month I wouldn't be ready to go I like I like 10 to 12 weeks 10 to 12 he likes eight I mean I I normally do like 10 yeah just like but I've been super the first few weeks are [ __ ] pre-amps this Camp I'm channeling my Ryan Garcia would you ever do a Ryan Garcia regiment during Camp drink and smoke every night you do a little I I probably yeah I'm not actually doing that for the people out there he's locked in clocked in locked in locked in ready to go yeah May 20th we start but by the time the people see this it'll be uh June or something like that that is crazy you're fighting Mike that you fought Ben asran wrestler good good [ __ ] UFC was really good UF bit Tyron Woodley twice Anderson Silva knockout of the year with Nate Robinson can't forget about deji deji the the the goat do we say Gibb or is that like that's just crazy resume like literally [ __ ] C by way thank you Gib cuz we had a really good party after he knocked you the [ __ ] out who W we're skipping two professional boxers this always no no the recent ones this always happens I'm trying to just think cuz two cuz this is what everybody asked for this is what everybody asked for who who are the two professional boxers you fighted you got to name them Andre August and Ryan Borland go okay people don't people are like fight a pro boxer and then I do and then they're like that was boring as a man of combat he what were 10 and one nine and one nine and one what is your take on his [ __ ] all of his fights and who he's fighting in the competition dude I've been excited as [ __ ] since I started I remember you I remember the first time I watched was the Nate Robinson I watched that one at home and then uh I don't remember what it was after that but I remember watching Ben Asam in Atlanta I think that was the first time we actually met was right after the fight I think we hugged I was like y I picked you up you carried me back to the locker room that it was love at first sight that was crazy actually yeah actually I [ __ ] with him we became best friends like a couple days later you going to leave me hanging no no I would it's my eyebrow but uh yeah no I think he's obviously super skilled I think it's and I I it's inspired me even in the position I'm at UFC World Champ sexy you know what I mean like tall dark handsome TR inspired me just business the business uh side of things that you've done I've always thought putting on massive fight that's why I'm such a huge Conor fan cuz the pay-per-views he's done is so [ __ ] he's been fighting for four years and [ __ ] that he's been doing the massive fights the fights I get excited for there's a few UFC fights the high the big big fights that I get excited for but every time you fought even when uh Logan fought Floyd I was [ __ ] like excited like all fight week so i' I've been inspired from what you've done from a business side from the boxing side they even just start so not late but for a boxer but these boxers start when they're [ __ ] three four years old like Ryan and tank like they're young buck the Tik Tac I sent you of Devon Haney's debut fight yeah it's wild he was fighting a five foot Mexican in a in a bar was it Dante bro if I show you this [ __ ] oh no I did see that I did see that I did see that when you started even seeing that first video fighting Anderson Silva six fights in bro like do you know how insane that is he's one of the greatest correct me if I'm wrong UFC Strikers in history yeah 100% so does that make me one of the greatest UFC Strikers and one of the greatest wrestlers cuz wood but Ben ask was but Nate Diaz is ducking me in MMA oh am crazy I am weak that's a sick fight MMA I I wish it was that would happened right after the boxing same he's actually ducking it which is why it's crazy because he's not he's not in UFC no but we we upped it to 15 million damn that's crazy though that would be a I like Nate Diaz but that would be such a fun buildup he actually doesn't want to do it all Sean how do you genuinely Jake's not here it's me and you in a room actually how do you see that fight going for Jake what MMA him you're not here J for Nate in MMA keep it a bean God it's it's so hard to you're a big [ __ ] right now on what weight would it be5 185 I don't hate I don't I it's not a it's a winable fight for you I really do think that but Nate is so [ __ ] you would have to do what I did against aljo and morab do not let that [ __ ] grab you not that you can't wrestle cuz I know you can wrestle but once he starts grabbing you and doing Jiu-Jitsu if he gets on top his little he likes his little trips it would be hard for you to win I feel like if he if he started grappling just pure Jiu-Jitsu if it let's be real if it goes to the floor is he [ __ ] if he's on his back Nate's not like a super strong guy so if you learn how to like I mean I'm sure you know how to get up to a single legegg stuff like that but then you start getting your neck grabbed I don't know how much Jiu-Jitsu you know I mean Nate's a [ __ ] high Lev black belt um if you could keep it standing 100% there's winnable ways there if he if he went to the ground feel like he might be able to grab your neck no that that's exactly how I feel about it if I don't get guillotined yeah then I win the fight because even if he was on top take your back but even if he was on top of me I would just throw him off of me cuz he's also the weakest puncher I've ever fought like when he was hitting me I was I almost like started laughing I'm I'm not even saying this to talk [ __ ] out of everyone I've sparred in my whole entire life and everyone I fought his punches are even me we I don't think you ever landed a punch on me is that true well that's not true so I don't anyone no I'm literally not even talking [ __ ] which is why I think it's funny that he dropped Connor and [ __ ] cuz it's just like how Conor with like to the ground yeah like with a straight left hand yeah which is crazy like I I'm not just talking [ __ ] when I say that and I've told you I've literally told you this you told me this after the fight yeah I was like he is the weakest puncher I've ever fought in my life who's who's the weakest puncher you've ever you've ever come to face um there I mean there's been so many fights where I later didn't even get hit um uh does that like make you jaded at all when you get into a fight and you don't really get love that [ __ ] I prefer not to get hit at all but like if I was you and I wasn't get hit at all I'd probably work less no no no no I I know I don't get hit because I work that hard so if I didn't work hard I know I'd probably get hit I'm just a lazy [ __ ] so so here you are on top of the world we're launching [ __ ] W going to be a billion dollar business [ __ ] you I always forget uh UFC champ accomplishing all your goals what do you want next uh what are what is the threeyear fiveyear for Sean I I truly do want to get a boxing fight I'm not I'm not super set on that to where like I'm like going to be [ __ ] if it doesn't happen I do think it'll be interesting especially if I go out there knock morab out Ryan does his thing I think there's a [ __ ] sweet fight there if it doesn't happen not that worried about it want to go out there beat morab I'd like to you know if Max Max and Elia fight I would like to fight go move up to 45 fight the winner of that um you know maybe have three to five maybe have a few more kids definitely want another little baby I love kids my fite pump him out shout out to Danny who's your top pick in a boxing fight though if you if you could choose your Ryan now was like the I mean what he after dvon Beat Ryan I was like javante then Ryan goes out there does his thing really though I think Dante do you is that is that not a big [ __ ] leap Ryan like you said before he's been doing this his whole life one thing that's been proven is that the crossover it's it's not a good return Fury he did his thing okay the excep is the exception we've seen it with okay but then Anthony Joshua put his ass t was crazy super night night he was I'm I'm here for big fights like I wanted to get into the UFC and I wanted to make big fights watching Conor versus Floyd I'm like that [ __ ] happened really happened hey you versus Derek that could be as big as Connor in Floyd but no but I I think the craziest [ __ ] about Conor versus Floyd is that overall it was a W for everyone involved so there's certain fights where it just like doesn't matter what happens that's the world we live in yeah I mean UFC told me they said if the if the fight's big enough and it'll make the UFC money they'll do it what means more to you your your your record being pre or the amount of money you're making all right let me ask you something it's about to get real J's drunk Jasper's drunk as [ __ ] y record or money [ __ ] it depends the Gap like like the gap of money if it's like an extra 10 15 20 million but I lose a couple important fights probably not you just take like 150 million I'll be like like [ __ ] my record baby yeah it depends on the gap of money Jake Paul is not here right now just like a Mayweather Conor McGregor you taking that fight ver Jake yeah no he's my buddy I could I mean I don't I don't even no I no funny no there's you know what's funny is always in my Snapchat story once once a day pretty much someone says we knock out Jake Paul like there's every sing all the time for so long people just want to see me get [ __ ] is good though that's like the thing yeah but I'm sensitive it is funny though people [ __ ] love to hate confidence the craziest thing though actually about both of you like I met you very recently like I didn't realize you're as like normal as you are I don't know why I thought you violent like you guys are both like very goofy mellow and stupid and c and and awesome it's like the greatest thing ever like I couldn't believe when I met you you're like one of us like yeah I wouldn't think you're a [ __ ] yeah one of the coolest people in the world for sure yeah but not a lot of people uh can like I don't know we have like a weird it's hard toes Meat Heads I'm like this the this my dog I think it's a little bit of dark humor too it's like some [ __ ] up [ __ ] that we say off camera [ __ ] sometimes but I think it's like there's a certain yeah like that's how my whole group is back home it's like we all just we're all just kind of [ __ ] dumb I'm smart but like they're dumb well someone commented like yo Jake Paul's the dumbest genius in the world and I was just like I say that [ __ ] all the time you wed up the other day and I was like this is the most genius dumbass in the world no jokes Hey Brother chill buddy trying to get me cancelled no what how old are you 23 are you really yeah no you're not he's not is he what do you think think what did you think Oh no you're 267 27 what did you think he was I thought he was older I thought he was like 27 26 yeah a niggaer mature was that ladies you got a boo you got a girl you just be slanging she timeout right now I don't really talk about she don't time out it's a little tricky she not taking care of herself what do you guys think about Tom Brady R you watch it yeah they kept comp panning to you every 5 Seconds bro I swear there's a huge camer sitting there the whole time but it's cool to see Netflix going hard like that cuz they went hard they swing that meat around huha yeah let's pivot yeah just sorry about him I'm drunk man not yeah but but it was it was great it wasar they should have got rid of most of the football players going up there yeah there's a couple ones Ben afflac is that who that was on there that was wild that was so weird that was so weird it was cool to see how [ __ ] less sensitive people are becoming I feel like feel like it's recently like there's a big push back I think people got sick of it we went super super super PC for a long time people were like wait a second we like being able to say what we want to say I saw kill Tony say oh type of crazy [ __ ] on there that watch every [ __ ] Monday you were on kill Tony yeah how old are you actually buddy I'm a comedian Budd full time no yeah I was on that I was nervous as hell though I was like just being it's a live I do podcast once a week like me and Tim do our podcast every [ __ ] week but to be there in front of an audience live it's weird it's a different kind of well so you say Tim but let's let's talk about actually the fact that you get trained by by one of the greatest boxers of all time it's really that's something what's happened like that's crazy working with Canelo as your as your coach that's what I'm saying people don't going to be Ryan but like yeah that is true I never even thought about that for did you even know that this guy proba even know that that orange [ __ ] is nice wait will I get cancelled by the ginger community no you're black oh no my dad my dad's Ginger and I'm I'm like this [ __ ] is ginger bro he be shaving he be shaving his beard and I zoom in zoom in it's it's slightly orange so I'm a quarter ginger on South Park they made fun of Gingers and that [ __ ] made the news I [ __ ] with the ginger people but like y'all [ __ ] you like redhead girls oh yeah was Super Soaker but anyway yeah like y'all [ __ ] is orange and that's okay but back to you one of y'all that's not drunk I got a question cuz this guy clipped out a lot did Tim actually like you guys about him like saying to fight that was yeah that was real Tim always be talking [ __ ] to the like he's been doing that for so long so what happened he just talk I mean he just he Alo the knee's coming Alo you got to shoot Alo watch out for this like he's been saying that since I've been in the UFC like my debut vers terion where he was talking [ __ ] to terion too and uh he just does it every fight but this happened to just be crazy timing to like Tim you got Tim like alre you got to go and like literally he he like that's when he threw that left hand or whatever stepped into Southpaw and uh or stepped into Orthodox and got dropped it was it was funny the timing because he's like Al you got to go I don't I truly don't think that's why that's not why Alo went I bet you could I bet Alo didn't even hear that but Tim's always chirping and stuff but people on the internet are [ __ ] mad about that a lot of them actually like it I'll say majority of people are thinking that's the funniest [ __ ] ever there's a couple [ __ ] that are like you should be banned think it's a fight would you run the alra fight back or one and done never I like that why would I yeah am I supposed to top that you know what I'm saying I got love for Alo we had him on the show and he he seems like a good dude I actually don't mind Alo I does that ever happen where like you'll have a personal relationship with someone personal runin with them and it's all great but then now all of a sudden you have to fight each other I've never had I've not of running with someone that's been like uh more than like I've ran into aljo morab at the UFC I'm like hey what's up talk to him a little bit you know nothing no ill will um but I haven't had like a run with someone I actually lik them mhm and then at the fight them so you're not friends with any any other UFC fighters oh I have a there's there's a couple guys in my in my weight class that I train with at the lab that are like climbing the r uh ladders what happened with uh the 125 pounder I I don't even know his name and I'm not I'm just not like yeah what's his name I Alexander pania bro this story is actually kind of funny so 2016 I think it was it was like 3 and0 4 and0 and I was still fighting at like I fought at 125 not too long before that I fought at like 130 which is in a weight class was like so I wasn't like a 155 like I am now I was probably like 14 back then and uh Henry cejudo comes in I'm three or four and0 at the point at this point it comes in with this kid Alexander PTO just won The Ultimate Fighter I think he's got his UFC debut or it's his second UFC fight he's a couple weeks out from his fight I'm [ __ ] the night before me and Tim ripping bongs like hanging out being goofballs and [ __ ] so the next morning so we brought him in for sparring hry sudo brings in Alexander you're 4-0 he's King [ __ ] he he's just won The Ultimate Fighter and so they write the names on on the board who who you're sparring I'm like oh [ __ ] I got Alexander Pantoja versus me for one round one round he has three rounds so you write one one name then usually you you spar with one guy then they go out you spar with a fresh guy they go out spar with the fresh guy that's usually how it works so my name was just up there for one round that's it we Spar one round I didn't know anything about him cuz I I didn't really watch it like that 25 I don't really watch 25ers like that but somebody's like oh [ __ ] that's he a black belt he just won The Ultimate Fighter I was like oh [ __ ] I got to [ __ ] Focus up here first round boom Dro him with a liver kick and I wasn't going to post I record all my rounds I have so many sparring rounds like I wasn't going to post it was and for some reason I don't know why he would talk [ __ ] and bring it up cuz I literally I don't know you know know I don't know if you know how it works but you finish a guy the fight's over right no no did he um so I finished him the first round he hit him boom with the liver I posted the video yesterday and I've had it for a long time I didn't want to post it CU you don't post sparring like that but he just kept bringing it up so boom finished him first round um then uh after the first round round I go to walk out and Henry's over there crying box of Kleenex just like [ __ ] wiping his tears crying we want you for a second round so mad that this little like I was nobody just finished his dude he's in the UFC he's supposed to be the man finish him in the first round so Henry's crying saying he wants another round um so I piece him up again in the second round and I'm I'm dying at this point my lungs are burning I'm not in shape for fight I I'm nowhere near in Camp for a fight and I my lungs are hurting and uh Henry again crying blowing his nose and like I want you for a third and Benson comes in Benson Henderson absolute Legend comes in and was yelling cuz that's his it was the his gym the MMA lab we don't let people come in our gym and make us tired and blah blah blah and I'm [ __ ] just just huffing and puffing I just got done work in this dude for 10 minutes finished him in the first round did I say that liver kick um we'll put the footage I have the foot yeah it's right there insert the footage so third round come out boom piece him up again and he's so I don't know why he keeps bringing up this bringing this up in the media I think it's because people ask him but I don't know why he doesn't just say yeah yeah no no I don't want to talk about it he keeps saying like he's like oh I got in I found his range and [ __ ] I'm like bro you you stopped him in one round stopped him in round one and let him live and continue to fight for round two these delusional uh like wild people are weirdos but the reason I posted cuz he kept bringing it up exactly wait so is he the champ now at 125 yeah okay but why does he still want to talk [ __ ] to you if you got [ __ ] up that's what I'm saying I don't know either either you drop to 125 and get that no I can't drop to 125 that's too much now you're a thick [ __ ] I am a thick but yeah I SP I think it's important for up and cominging Spar uh fighters to record their rounds and watch their rounds not for that this reason you know but just to I've improve so much watching my sparring y I have thousands of rounds maybe not thousands hundreds of rounds from 10 years ago on my on my computer of uh it's like NFL team is watching footage the time [ __ ] 100% got to watch that [ __ ] that's I I have every single round recorded and and again I I don't post sparring either exactly you know put in a highlight video make a vlog boom we're sparring people but it's never like [ __ ] up your guy yeah exactly but Mike Perry honestly like what he's been doing is pretty Fu he went to Bare knuckle that [ __ ] just meant for him bare knuckle fighting it's crazy different going crazy he's doing good he's [ __ ] undefeated over there he's beating some really good guys stay over here [ __ ] [ __ ] only place that you should be getting tickets from is game time.co it's it's the only place I go it is the only place you can possibly go they have 110% price match guarantee that's what we use to get our tickets for the NBA Finals you can get $20 off your first order go to gametime.co JJ a $20 off your first order they're doing a deal specifically for y'all and you could see where your tickets are before you buy them seeing the seats they have all of the these great policies last 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platform there is Mike Paul versus Jake Tyson here's my official prediction tell us and even if even if it's against me like it's not it's not I do think you're going to beat Mike Tyson uh it's crazy that I even saying that out loud right now cuz you're fighting Mike Tyson it's [ __ ] crazy even just when we were walking down the the street today people all genders all ages knew you were fighting Mike Tyson it's such a massive fights live on Netflix which is [ __ ] crazy it's in a stadium which is [ __ ] crazy it is crazy I believe in you I see what you I see what you're doing I see you know that you believe in yourself Mike Tyson is uh hasn't fought in however long it's been so for him to just come up and get a fight be I I'm sure is going to be in as good a shape as he possibly could be in but it's just you know it's it's it's it's not his time right now I love Mike Tyson I never actually met him but I love Mike Tyson I do think Jake's gonna get the job done and I do think eight rounds eight two-minute rounds eight two-minute rounds I believe I believe you could put them away in the later rounds you know five six seven eight I do think you could put it put him down which is crazy to even [ __ ] think you rap yeah that's fire I'm just lazy and inconsistent that's not a w no that sh it is not you start using Brandon yell at him every day but cuz you can actually spit that's fire no but but people know him now from like podcasting they don't know he's a rapper and hurts his soul J sick name Lil jizz what J JZ that's good that's good you should switch your [ __ ] I switch my [ __ ] from come Master to kill Jas bro honestly though that's I think singing rapping spitting is one of the things that if I could switch talents be doing something like that that's good or twerking I ain't going to lie you shook that [ __ ] earlier I got a I got a thing on me you that [ __ ] wiggle a little bit let's let's pivot though cuz yep hit a pivot uh yeah do we have a speaker should we play Jasper's new song or something you got a new one I thought you were lazy some new [ __ ] go ahead play on your phone just put it in the speaker put it in the mic too this the [ __ ] I'm dropping when I'm Indie that sound decent I'm not rapping either I'm yapping that's not going to get you drunk yo I made this beat that's crazy I like the way you look I won't lie you got something I need you my with a fly girl like you doing with no guy a little sh don't really go outside I'm not crazy right place and right time you all smiles and pretty light brown [Music] [Music] like that better if I forget you but I just can't time saying do better and I'm sure you can find that guy that's worth all right cut it cut it cut it that's that's enough that's enough that's enough that's enough for real can't give the whole thing it's not out yet yeah hey good [ __ ] that's fire I'll be rapping though but that's some pop [ __ ] just cuz I can do it so why are you consistent cuz I'm lazy and jaded and and spoiled yeah it's unfortunate maam shout out to the homies for a lot of talented people out there that just are yeah don't smoke crack yo also there there is a parallel there don't do don't do that there's a parallel with the same thing he's talking about I think Fighters probably where it's like you could have all the talent in the world he's got that's why I get so [ __ ] mad at him it's cuz he has all the talent in the world really I get more pissed off than he gets and he could be a superstar but he just is lazy he doesn't put the work in he's not he's not strategic and it is hard when you got when you live in a crib in Puerto Rico right you got chefs and [ __ ] and you fly private with me yeah that's it that's it bro that's it you got to you got get paychecks and [ __ ] y'all got to evict me that's not a bad idea honestly I think we talked about it let's make I was I'm H we had a conversation but I just can't I can't because I love you so much I need you but then I'll probably be more like need you y yeah I guarante and then we you would still have to like fly in once a week to to do the pods and it would be resentment and then I I'll go out like and I'll try to start shooting at y'all oh my God I guarantee I would be in the position I'm in if I if I had money and like had already made it like financially had [ __ ] I wouldn't have made it that's why people think I'm crazy but CC the other side of it is like boom right so I'm from com California same hey shout out my [ __ ] yeah man I was homeless for the first half of my life mom's a drug addict dad's a gang member I've never had anything in my life right and my whole life has been music I dropped out in ninth grade I was like I'm going to make music my dad kicks me out he's like you can't live under this roof like be more like your brothers my brothers are [ __ ] star students one got a full ride scholarship loser all all type of [ __ ] nerd ass [ __ ] all those [ __ ] are fat and unemploy now one dropped out of school a full rise scholarship and is just sitting at home right so boom from having nothing to like me saying I'm going to risk everything that I have in my life to become a music artist and it works I get to a certain place and I'm like damn I did exactly I hit a ceiling right so it's like now I had to recalibrate he got a big record deal and then and then like use I crashed out and became a m addict for four four days a week for 30 like 90 days oh it's not bad but then I moved cuz my homeboy was like you need to move and I was like nah [ __ ] that I made a million I ain't going to move I'm going to maintain this lifestyle I'm a junkie but I'm rich yep I crashed out and was like yeah I need to move lost 60 lbs went to Puerto Rico locked in recalibrated and now I'm ready to be but that's that's here's the problem we run into now is that you've recalibrated and now it's still it's been 6 months the album's supposed to be 6 months ago and we're still waiting for the album that's the problem and that's what you got to work on never too late though let's start it let's get because you're vitamin deficient right yeah yeah cuz like a lot of people can't think straight when they're vitamin deficient and all that a week ago kind of elaborated on that so yeah this isn't therapy um I got shout out Suzie right right huh Susie but she's hot is she not you think my therapist you guys got the same one I could pee and vape on this podcast I got to go pee go pee I could pee yeah I mean I think we I think we end the episode because uh let's wrap it up you can get W available at Walmart anyway if you walk into Walmart whether you with your mom your daddy you by yourself you go in that [ __ ] men body care aisle you buy that and comment down below what you thought of the episode for um us being brain fried over and uh jper but Buzz also comment cuz this coming out when the product releases comment your favorite scent and sent $10,000 right no I'm send you 1,000 I ain't got 10,000 for you but I'll send you 1,000 I'll send someone 10,000 he'll send you 10,000 I'll send you a th000 and I'm going through the comments for sure anyway good luck Charlie and if you got a test soon good luck on that [ __ ] that's what we [Music] do what are those 8 O gloves I want you to know they were talking up there he ain't going easy so be ready all right legit be ready buddy I'm using these bags don't show Too Much don't show we're boxing we're boxing I don't I do that on accident sometimes just know that that might come up just keep your hands up I'm just saying I might throw that up I haven't knocked someone out in a while just cuz my last fight didn't go off it went off five rounds I've been like craving just putting someone's lights out lately it's weird versus your boy better Derek I I hope Sean isn't nice and just [ __ ] him up that's your that's your trainee [ __ ] D all righty folks welcome to your main event of the evening starting out first in the loser corner you have better day with a record of no wins no losses I beat ste's [ __ ] out no anything he is 5'7 120 lbs lost in the mile to better JoJo but he's still delusional in his fighting career and to my left in the winning Corner sponsored by W sugar sha Ali The Undefeated UFC champion of the world it's time to fight bring it to the center we already spoke about the rules in the locker room beforehand give me your glove give me your hand touch gloves I want a clean fair fight no no hits below the waist back to your Corners time you ready judge you ready and fight [Music] [Applause] I'm out of balance or something oh do Dodge that [ __ ] hold on hold on hold on hold [ __ ] come on come on just oh my God one back of the head no no no back of the head four ref didn't see it five six me in the eyes Walk This Way Walk This Way for me he's running Walk This Way for me my car run all right and we're in in that right that's called all right time time time one two that was a that was a slip four up six bro Rizo what the [ __ ] are you doing all right get up SLP all right come on time in come on got come on got you [ __ ] black I'm going to I need to work I need to see some work black UT D somebody said 10 seconds like 8 seconds ago all right great back to your corner back to your corner back to your corner stay in there you're doing good right now this feel good I feel good do you see that one I landed clean on his face I think we all terrible shut the [ __ ] up for once in your [ __ ] life shut the [ __ ] up Sean's doing half punches on him shut up I'll act like uh no don't act like bro I'm just I'm putting in work all right how this how you when you [ __ ] beat the old wash UFC fighters everybody comments you're fighting old was UFC fighters what do you think 10s I think they're right in in round two round two round two oh got him [ __ ] oh [Music] [ __ ] hey put that hey that that's a that's going to be a 10 count can't get me by the that's going to be a 10 count that's going to be a 10 count next time back in the just there going to be a 10 count next time get in there give me real quick get him with some you thank you perfect okay BL I'm going to need to see some more one two back to your corner white Corner neutral Corner 5 6 seven eight n look at me thank you bro come on you want to fight do you want to fight when I do you want to fight yes yeah wait wait time back in wake up time time time time time I promise okay it's to the floor the rules of transfer to MMA tap tap tap he's St he's T he's ta all right I block out all right you're good to go wait wait the fight was over get the [ __ ] out of the ring oh it's over it's over it's over it's over go you got it's over it's over it's over [Music]	me get that stop playing mean yeah we created that because we actually have so many things to get into here this has been a long time coming Jasper did bring up something and the reason W was created was because the other products in the category had harmful dyes parabens sulfates hormone disruptors and so we wanted to create the better for you vitamin infused product and and Sean's a co-owner just signed today yesterday for the show but we we'll get into all of that we we've been you know bringing sea on for like we've been talking for like a month and a half yes sir yes sir um it is currently May we've been doing a lot of shoots this podcast will probably come out at post W launch you can get I'm so drunk I'm sorry y'all you can get it in uh Walmart every Walmart you in Paca Walmart get it in you in Pensacola it's in Walmart in Kentucky Walmart Walmart so basically uh we we brought in the greatest people in the world to help build W and Sean is one of those people but dialing everything back we will get into the company the body washes how this all came about but uh we've been wanting to do this podcast and thanks for joining us BR hey guys hey thanks for joining us right did you uh yeah I did you sh for an hour bro did you did you do	5	4	2	me get that stop playing mean yeah we created that because we actually have so many things to get into here this has been a long time coming Jasper did bring up something and the reason W was created was because the other products in the category had harmful dyes parabens sulfates hormone disruptors and so we wanted to create the better for you vitamin infused product and and Sean's a co-owner just signed today yesterday for the show but we we'll get into all of that we we've been you know bringing sea on for like we've been talking for like a month and a half yes sir yes sir um it is currently May we've been doing a lot of shoots this podcast will probably come out at post W launch you can get I'm so drunk I'm sorry y'all you can get it in uh Walmart every Walmart you in Paca Walmart get it in you in Pensacola it's in Walmart in Kentucky Walmart Walmart so basically uh we we brought in the greatest people in the world to help build W and Sean is one of those people but 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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXPZ1KzdpsY	4,103	mXPZ1KzdpsY	2024-06-20 00:00:00	well well well ladies and gentlemen do we have a special episode for you today none other than sugar Shan om Ali the current UFC bantamweight champion a legend in his own right this episode was off the cusp we were a little turned up Jasper was really really drunk so we weren't really prepared for this at all the conversations definitely got wild and obviously as you guys have seen over maybe the past week or so we launched a new company called w am men's carine in Walmart this company is so near and dear to my heart and I partnered with Shawn to bring this Vision to life amongst other celebrities artists and athletes that we are announcing over the next couple of weeks here get your w at Walmart it is very very very very very good stuff and yes you heard the news I am fighting Mike Perry on July 20th it is going down I'm still fighting Mike Tyson November 15th that is happening but I'm staying active knocking out Mike Perry on July 20th and I'm excited for y'all to listen to this episode and he the vision of w how it all came together and how Shawn got involved and then everything to do with Shawn's career this podcast has been a long time coming but prepare yourself for some idiocracy per usual uh this is [ __ ] with Jake Paul we have a secret handshake check it out AC let me get that stop playing mean yeah we created that because we actually have so many things to get into here this has been a long time coming Jasper did bring up something and the reason W was created was because the other products in the category had harmful dyes parabens sulfates hormone disruptors and so we wanted to create the better for you vitamin infused product and and Sean's a co-owner just signed today yesterday for the show but we we'll get into all of that we we've been you know bringing sea on for like we've been talking for like a month and a half yes sir yes sir um it is currently May we've been doing a lot of shoots this podcast will probably come out at post W launch you can get I'm so drunk I'm sorry y'all you can get it in uh Walmart every Walmart you in Paca Walmart get it in you in Pensacola it's in Walmart in Kentucky Walmart Walmart so basically uh we we brought in the greatest people in the world to help build W and Sean is one of those people but dialing everything back we will get into the company the body washes how this all came about but uh we've been wanting to do this podcast and thanks for joining us BR hey guys hey thanks for joining us right did you uh yeah I did you sh for an hour bro did you did you do do we know do we set the stage of the day and the fact that Jasper's slash right now okay cool y drunk is a [ __ ] y like double drunk yep yep yep you drunk yeah all that so um but just winding everything back uh I think we've been friends for a long time in fact you were the first guest on this show oh [ __ ] crazy Zoom crazy that's right that's right that's right the first ever episode you zoomed in and that's crazy we're thankful we're thankful for our friendship and it's pretty cool that now we're here again today uh getting less views than before and that's fire that's it congratulations less views we're not we're not it was it was a joke it was a joke if you watching this please like and comment cuz we falling off right now but man by the time this comes out you're going to be getting ready for me RAB how do you say his name I don't remember morab is iTab or or I don't know me that's got to be it me but you got to say it with the emphasis look meab mirab meab meab there you go there you go so yeah I should be getting ready hopefully I ain't got nothing scheduled hopefully uh you know Uncle Dana will call me say hey buddy you want to fight in in here and there and there and then I'm d b boom and that that's how that works what's up with everybody on your body though everybody talking [ __ ] even people youat I wanted to bring up yeah and he's like saying like he's trying to post about you even yesterday it is weird but when you concuss someone you know what I just say they don't think as well as they used to so I think he's still concussed and he's a little confused because he's talking [ __ ] still he not in his right mind because I can just throw up another post go because it's a throwback Thursday it's a throwback Friday do you think do you think people don't respect you enough cuz I I see that as your friend an unbiased like they just see social media and podcasts and the the hair and stuff like that and then they just sh week but I [ __ ] with you I appr that um I don't think it is well you can't you know I think it's fine I think you're jealous I ain't going to lie I got some inches under here let's smell that hair you can smell my [ __ ] must who I do think I feel a little bit disrespected as the champ but I think that last fight against Che kind of you know shut a little bit of people up canny go five rounds Cheeto beat me before the Alo fight um shut a lot of people up canny grapple didn't have to Grapple cuz he couldn't take me down yeah Alo couldn't take you down I think that was the biggest thing where they were like yo that's his weakness like yeah wrestle him down and then he just proved everyone wrong that's what's so interesting about this morab fight is he's supposedly well he is he's [ __ ] good at wrestling he's really really good at wrestling he's boring as [ __ ] and no one will there won't be one comment saying yeah right he's actually kind of fun not one person I'm com won I'm com you can I ask you something would you put yourself in your own top five Strikers in the UFC oh I'm yeah yo easily who's your Mount Rushmore strikker well I I mean I would unbiasedly I would put him as number one because adna is in like top three but he also like got beat by put that [ __ ] down boy he did uh bro I'm up there I'm up there Max is really good Max super his striking that's a good top five there that's four me Max Elia adaga uh I'm sure I'm missing some your with a one would it be that's that's a minus one Mount rmore is four yeah but I only got four but if you throw the five in it's a plus one isn't there only four yeah but but you ready to throw the five up I'm four all right that's my more but yeah once again uh this is a [ __ ] ass podcast so we apologize hey but something something you just touched on you talked about Fighters being fun and interesting how much and you're you're a superstar how much of you being a superstar how much of any fighter being a superstar comes down to them being fun and interesting as you are and how much of it comes down to their actual fighting good question uh well who's a super who who obviously Connor comes to mind I think he's he's a character he's fun he's interesting who else comes to mind is like a superstar I would say Izzy gives that off I think he's an interesting guy other than that there's not like a ton of fun like Ryan Garcia is doing a really good job right now of being [ __ ] interesting being a character uh I think that's fentel I think it's drugs as well I wouldn't deny that but he's still making people interested in Ryan versus Devon Haney was an interesting fight not because Devon Haney that dude's boring as [ __ ] you think he did them roids no I don't think Ryan did I think Devon needs to take that L he being a [ __ ] about I think the craziest [ __ ] you said to me and like I don't even know if we want to put this in there or bring it up but we we can always remove it but uh because of your your situation with the ostarine and you said to me like and it I like fully felt your energy you're like I swear on my daughter's life I never did that and you got popped for it yeah same thing happened uh to Ryan right now he popped for aost the low super low level a some [ __ ] like a trillionth of a gr the same thing happened to me uh so when that came out with Ryan like I truly truly didn't believe he took anything because it was the same [ __ ] and it happens to a lot of [ __ ] ostarine happens to how does that happen it's called the tainted supplement so if you're taking anything that has protein in it that's not third party tested uh could not just protein any kind of supplement that's not third party tested it's either NSF or there's a bunch of different third party tests but if you're not if you're taking something that doesn't have that there's chances there could be something in it but austram people pop for that all the time my case was not that big of a deal cuz I wasn't as huge of a star as I am now but it still was like a big deal because of my name the reason it's going so crazy right now is because Ryan G is a superstar so people are freaking out but it happens to a lot of athletes I just before we move past it I just on that Superstar topic how is that is that Superstar factor that that someone like you has someone like Ryan has someone like Connor has is it something you're born with or is it is it a practice is it something you can learn and do you sit back and like think like oh how can I go viral today how can I I think it's both I think you have to want to be a superstar there's some guys in the UFC like I want to make more money I want this I want that but they don't really want to be a superstar you you got to want it you got to you got to have some kind of vision a long time before well and and also like who you are as a person you have to have that like Fire Within still though like before you got into want famous I want to be in the NFL I want to be NBA I wanted to be a [ __ ] athlete when I was young was instilled I was just for whatever reason I wanted to make it when I was young I'm from H in Montana like small ass can I ask you something what's your opinion on like the take b nickel takes like where he's like super friendly and humble and like I think he's a sweet ass [ __ ] they love him but like bro that [ __ ] pisses me off I think that [ __ ] is cool too n like you're a hum like [ __ ] talk your [ __ ] you're what 670 like bro talk your [ __ ] like it it kind of bores me no I get yeah I mean that's that's some people's opinion is like he's too nice too humble too that but he's being himself um but he's also super young in the sport I think he and he's still pretty what is he 28 you're in a sport of War if I was playing like [ __ ] Cricket I would be like yeah like but that's that's the thing is for for for a character like him what it seems like is that's what he's in is the sport of war and that's it he's not in the sport of entertainment he's a nice ass sweetheart get there is some people that that understand both sides of things but I also have respect for and I see when someone's that's strictly in the sport of if I play chess with you I'm going to be like good game and I'm going to shake your hand I talk [ __ ] be F ass to a PO it I'm going to be like [ __ ] you you need to get better at whatever you're doing dial dialing it back a little bit um to the aost stream thing I think it's like what do you think about Conor tweeting still at like 3:00 a.m. like coked out he he he he sent shots at me and Ryan talking [ __ ] but it's it's crazy coming from Connor who literally got out of the usada pool to do steroid like legit steroids so it's kind of wild and I was the biggest Connor fan for a long time in the last couple weeks ever since he sent that wasn't even a couple weeks ago probably a week ago I've been trying to hate him I've been trying to be like [ __ ] you Connor but I can't I love Connor I it's like I am excited for his fight coming up I'm excited I want you know I'm all about it what's the fight is it Chandler Chandler in June it's going to be big they just been trying to do it for a long time so I didn't know if it still still I think officially I think it's I think I think the craziest part about it is what like eight weeks before a fight that he's still like coked and drunk out of his mind who you got though who that's a good it is crazy that he still like he tweeted that deleted like 20 minutes later he was definitely [ __ ] up on well that's what I was going to say we can't just Grace past that do you is that that's a that's a bold thing to say do you you know he's on coke is that a is that are you [ __ ] gills I don't know anything but I know for certain that he's brother like look at the time of the tweets and look at what he's saying like also and he's like known for this simar tweets yeah yeah I don't know just manic brother I think he is I do think Ryan is I think he when he said he was playing into it a little bit I I think he's kind of using that I think he's [ __ ] crazy what what what would happen if you and Ryan boxed that's I mean there's only one way to find out he has a lot better chances of beating me in a boxing match than he does in a real fight keep up I do I I [ __ ] I truly believe in myself that's how I got to the [ __ ] position I'm in right now I can box I can throw hands um I don't think it'd be easy by any means I do think it's possible I beat him I'm not saying my my odds are great but I do believe I could beat Ryan Bo if there was anybody you could box for your first boxing match debut who are you Bo give an easy fight give me Deon Haney you give [Laughter] me honest answer uh I mean if we're I I would say Floyd if I Pi if I could sit here and pick who I box first boxing fight I pick Floyd because it would be the biggest most crazy most legendary fight maybe not most legendary some people for me okay but outside of that on a skill based level oh I I could hang with some good [ __ ] pro boxers I'm undefeated in boxing you think you think if you and uh ilot boxed that' be ilot is very very [ __ ] skilled boxing that's an interesting question so who what what professional boxer would you equate your PA Mike Tyson I know of Devon Haney now because Ryan Garcia beat him uh dvon Davis he's really short I know him um maybe smacking [ __ ] up though he does he that little guy he can't he can't ride roll coasters though that is true so there's a there's a tradeoff like Cruz fight he was riding a roller coaster no like I'm talking about like at the fair oh no you know like there there's a trade-off in life you know where things get weird it's like it's like yo he's really good but you can't even just hit Dante fan brother can't even ride the top not a Dante fan that's not what I'm wait what did what did I say to say I'm not a you didn't say I mean I don't think he knows that it's a short joke I don't think he picked up on you want me tell him I was joking shut the [ __ ] up I get I say that was a joke I'm what are you trying to say I'm but are you trying to insinuate that I'm short no honestly you're probably what five you're 5'9 you're like 5' seven and a half stop doing stop doing it stop doing that cuz [ __ ] is going to see this and be like he's 5'6 actually if you watching this and you think I'm 5'6 and you want to try me in person please any [ __ ] who see me out I'm punching your [ __ ] out I'm like 5'9 on a good day when when I'm lying to women I'm 5'10 for sure who's gonna ID me I'm wearing forces I'm a [ __ ] liar all right so now for the truth jakee he's like what like he's 5 No but don't do that bro all right all right we won't we'll cut that out like yeah n don't cut it out n don't see me and see these but you know dvon is 5'5 legit that's cool bro I know but is that not short just be honest is that five five short for a grown man for a grown man is that short you can be a fan I'm not I'm a fan of javante and he's five that's a little little bro all right the joke went over his head anyways so the short joke [ __ ] is trying to play me like I'm short no no no we're we're not we're not you're [ __ ] tall all right let's pivot yeah so um SI yeah sh shout out to the shout out to the pivot but but yeah like Jasper's a little riled up things are on edge he's a little he's a little turned up it's been a long day a long two days we've been shooting uh because we have a new [ __ ] company did we say we talk about that yet I we said in the beginning raise your arms up [ __ ] goed [ __ ] goed shout out to w a fun few days it's been a fun few days days you're going to see the content rolling out um but you speaking of but Ruby Rose did a good job oh my God I wanted to bite that M listen anyway if you're near wmart if you're watching this right now I don't give a [ __ ] what you're doing you could be taking care of your kid you could be taking care of your elderly parents [ __ ] them go to Walmart June 1st Nationwide I don't care if you in Pensacola you in Massachusetts all in places that sound [ __ ] stupid there's a Walmart there and you go there it's a better for you product vitamin ifuse number [ __ ] one yeah no basically I I think dialing back like the business story of it because you're also like a very smart businessman intellectual doing everything you do in and outside of the Ring which a lot of people don't have which contributes to you being uh the biggest in my opinion the biggest UFC star um but yeah we we basically I guess this is the podcast where we tell people where W came from but um we started building this company like a year and a half ago and really saw how all these other companies like as we move into better for you products and less harmful products we saw how the leaders in the space didn't have the best formulas didn't have the best manufacturing had all of these harmful substances in it and we're also brands from when I was like 9 years old I don't want to list names but they're still like having all the Shelf space in stores and I was just like this is wild like this is boring this is lame the the the we need something new we need something that's better uh males have vitamin uh deficiencies like crazy especially with magnesium Jasper just can't get enough of it uh especially with magnesium um and biotin is in the body wash uh vitamin E one two of the best vitamins for your skin and hair um but as The Story Goes long story short we we come up with this brand that represents so many things um but I think winning in everyday life whether you're the valedictorian whether you are the high school jock whether you're philanthropist now you have a product that you can embody and wear every single day that's increasing your vitamin intake that is less harmful to you that's where the idea came from and just being the winning formula in category uh went to Walmart pitched them the whole idea they [ __ ] loved it helped us build the brand even and come up with the scent profiles and all the things that are the the most popular um and this has been something I've wanted to do for so long we had to bring in the best people to be a part of it the winners in their category and that's number one Numero Uno sha Ali here um and he instantly saw the vision and already in the past couple of days it's been like super fun filming all the content behind yeah I was pumped when you [ __ ] called me appreciate you thinking of me and uh excited to help grow this business [ __ ] it's needed it's needed we're going to take over the whole bathroom you know tooed if you [ __ ] with the dogs and cows and chickens dog in you I know what I got that dog in me and I use it so be dog free baby am I missing anything with that no I think that was great the one the one thing I would touch on and you did in a way but it's it is body wash it is body spray it is deodorant but it also is there's an ethos that stands behind this brand which is the ethos that you stand for and it's the ethos that you stand for and the ethos that you stand for and the one that I stand for if I say ethos again I'm GNA start stumbling over my words but it's it's it's like you said it it doesn't the winners in life aren't just you you're on a big stage in life you're you're you're crushing it in every aspect financially you're a star you're leading your sport that's awesome on every [ __ ] level it's it's an encouragement to to young men all around the world to [ __ ] get up off their ass and get sh it don't matter if you score high on a test you whatever the [ __ ] it is that you do well maybe not so it matters what the [ __ ] you do but it also doesn't matter what the [ __ ] you do anybody is a winner as long as you put in the work and you have the will to win and I love it I I would say that's wrong I would say that not anybody is a winner and I think that's something that the brand also stands for like you really got to win you got to as you have the will to win no I'm just saying I think that's an important point cuz we live in a world today where a lot of people think everybody can be a winner that's not true if you Los you might be a loser and if you're a loser the good news is there's a hidden l in the logo actually we'll trace it for you with our graphic design team there's a hidden l in the logo because and I I I wanted to make sure that was was a thing because the biggest loss of my life turned out to be the biggest W in my life and I always had the saying like two L's make a w and when I lost to Tommy Fury it was embarrassing all these things but I realized I wasn't focused I wasn't as locked in as I could be the team around me from a boxing standpoint wasn't good I was having personal issues with relationships and all of these things that I had to shed and grow from and I grew into this new and completely different person but I wouldn't have done that if I didn't lose on the biggest stage possible and I think that was part of the ethos ethos ethos ethos of the brand was to encourage people that in their lowest moments to turn those into into their biggest W's eventually when Jake just said that the biggest loss of his life ended up being the biggest W of his life you said same yeah yeah same what what was that story for supposedly lost for lost to Cheeto back in 2020 August it it was I mean it sucked at the time but I it didn't suck too bad because I was like okay I didn't lose because I you know and it was different I wasn't I mean I was focused everything went good training camp everything was good but I was like that sucks I'm goingon to get that back someday when the time is right and then my last fight two two months ago in Miami headline I'm the champ defending my belt against that same guy how rewarding was that three and a half years later August three and a half years later boom beat his ass as a fan of yours it made it so sweet because of all the doubters that constantly like put you down and didn't believe in you and said he was going to destroy you and then you he literally like you embarrass him that was a performance of a life you embarrassed the [ __ ] out of him and I think that's literally a prime example of turning l l into into a w and I really that's what that's where the hidden l in the brand in the logo is um and representing that every single day when you see these products in your bathroom and when we say we have a saying it's not just a product it's a lifestyle absolutely trademarked Incorporated All Rights Reserved 2024 brother uh but but yeah man it's it's an honor to have you a part of this and uh we we really made what we think are the best products on the market from the body wash being exfoliating vitamin infused to the body spray what we found out is a lot of these fragrances like you get like these high-end designer brands that have like $500 colognes turns out it only cost them a dollar to make that and they're literally making like $499 on top of that so we had a fine fragrance house is what these places are called and we got the super expensive scents and gave it to people to what they're worth like we're not trying to these products are super super affordable and I think it's so funny because that's the world we live in where like you just label something and get like a European girl to go this is one of the lower priced men's care products on the market yeah if I'm not mistaken and it's it's the $500 fragrance in the affordable bottle because we want everyone we've been using a body wash in the past two days since we got the samples after the shoot and I personally want to say I got the in there you could bleep it out whatever you want to do W's winning n b genuinely that's that's the saying is the it's winning formula cuz it really is like it really is if if we're going to call our company [ __ ] W it has to be the best we the winners winning product indeed indeed winning customers all that type of [ __ ] indeed better Derek today he's just got a punch I'm not Li I talked to him before he left he wants to punch you up bro he's got a punchable face I like him though it's weird it's like God I like that guy but I want [ __ ] KO pick him up and like it's okay boom one more to the liing me earlier and I'm just letting you know don't shoot the messenger on God he said he wants to get in the ring with you I can call him really he oh yeah he he you want to call him yeah where is he at is wait uh no call no call he's coming up oh um he's talking smack he said he actually wants a spar I swear to God he said he wants to get percentage should I go you guys I literally out let that's crazy timeing saying talk [ __ ] to my face if you're going to talk [ __ ] that's crazy timing what were you saying they were telling me you want to get in the ring and Spar bit or they didn't say Spar they said fight yeah I'm down to do either but uh yeah no I'm just sick of the [ __ ] [ __ ] you've been saying on your podcast uh you called me you made fun of my weight and you called me gay I did not no I well okay okay you said that he wouldn't ever say that what you got to say what your chest that's what I just [ __ ] said bro I he was like oh if I if stand on it you talking to him you talking to him you ain't talking to me my assistant Sono would would piece you he's never boxed a day he never I'm here to fight your video I'm here to fight you what did I what was the first thing I said to you when when I saw you what was the first thing I said to you that we could fight no I said you look thick wait but when we were talking earlier weren't you saying he's a [ __ ] and you wanted to get a ring with him and all type [ __ ] what I'm saying right now say it then I just said the [ __ ] ring so we can after this we have a ring 2 feet away and he's a [ __ ] and whatever else you was saying to me yeah he's [ __ ] what about my hair say something about my hair I I already said that at the W shoot that you look like you haven't showered in [ __ ] a week okay all right d hey buddy hey hey what's your long-term play not no but see you guys you guys are making me seem crazy you're out of your mind he Derek Dereck go warm up hit the hit the heavy back H the warm up is almost listen legendary as send location dble PIV go warm up hey hey double pivot sit sit I'm not [ __ ] no I I'll sit and talk but I'm not [ __ ] no sit on the floor walk you want to take my seat hey how much how much of what's going on ch ch how much of what's going on is is a character versus like actual delusion how much is a character yeah decent uh I would say there are times where I know what I have to do for my boxing career to like like we all why is he laughing cuz you said career I beat your [ __ ] boy your [ __ ] [ __ ] bro you know what I I recall you did beat I recall calling steiny saying what the [ __ ] was that buddy I love steiny but I do remember watching that and thinking I wasn't proud of that I was not proud of that from steiny and I wish I wish he would come to the gym I wish he'd get in there I wish he'd train a little bit and I wish he would have a rematch but that's on him I've been trying to get the rematch but he's been ding me do you think Derek won he said I won I thought I thought he won I'd have to rewatch but I do think I come on baby the comments have [ __ ] dragged me for months after that [ __ ] 99% of the comments say I lost so please say it one more time Sean no I said it what I said it's like therapy or something no but to answer your question uh we all know uh uh as Fighters there's a side of promotion stop [ __ ] first of all Gus shut the [ __ ] up our our audio guys uh like can't stop laughing is that the facial his facial hair or is what he's saying bro that's bold of you to talk facial hair bro that's bold of you to I'm not Li you look dirty you look like Jeffrey done training right Jesus I train every day but anyway we know like there's two sides of of promotion as well as the actual athletic competition that is Combat Sports so there are times where I might play up a little bit like hey promoting but let him go let him go all right if you if all if you think I'm all promoting that I'll see you in the [ __ ] ring and I'll knock both you either of you out well um well Jake's a [ __ ] fat [ __ ] right now he weighs like 240 so I got I goty I gotta pick my words wisely like he's Jake's 240 I I know I know but like I'm not going to sit here and pick a fight against somebody that's 240 when I'm se's my weight class when I stopped you in one round like just like but when I was getting started out of come this is where I'm at since then I told him he could have somebody tag team I'm down I'm down to fight anybody in this [ __ ] room not one person in this room I'm the best part about this is like uh right after this we I think you're you're down to do like one round or three minutes right I mean I'd prefer 12 but we okay yeah 12 I mean that my biggest advantage in the ring ring is my cardio I do 12 12 okay so no I have a genuine question so five round I'm not I'm not one have I ever said I'm a UFC fighter no I'm just say we can box I'm just saying that's I'm used to five you want to do three we could do that aren't you trying to be a boxer with your [ __ ] Ryan Garcia call he would knock knock your [ __ ] ass out so quickly it wouldn't be close I'm one and0 pro boxing what are you actually I saw that video I saw video I'm also want to know thank you officially hey they count that's real commiss but uh I didn't mean I didn't mean to take I didn't mean to take over the pot I just wanted to a couple you definitely didn't yeah okay I try I'm trying to help you no we love you go warm up yeah yeah go warm up the bags don't warm up too much though don't get tired how much do you wa right now without Timberlands and jean shorts on high 120 low 13 no without lying though okay that [ __ ] is you think you got you got him one round I think I could beat him I think I can beat him I I think I could handicap myself to three just put on one glove I could do that what do you think actually happens now when you go downstairs and he gets in that ring like what's his plan that's what I don't get about him but that's why it's that's do me a favor that's why he's Cloud it up because love [ __ ] up [ __ ] he's going he's going to try to Yap he's going to try to talk please just go 100% yeah no actually actually please go 100% if he signs a consent form we'll have him no we've already got like multiple consent forms for better media with like death wavers [ __ ] no no no but he needs it he needs that I'll go like 40 no go like 75 Sean I'm I'm going to be honest bro don't even go 20% he's the nice [ __ ] bro don't do that bro you want him to go 100% no no to be honest but just like work with him and then just like maybe just just like a really good punching and then he'll give up 75% uh I'm nervous man I'm shaking for Derek yeah yeah that's good I understand that there a couple flinches if you Flinch hard enough the the wind coming off you will put him down let him walk you down and bait him boom sleeping what's your next upcoming fight a maraba jaaba and when is that uh not nothing yet I'm hoping for September maybe October maybe November maybe December I'm F ready to go baby what if it was next month I wouldn't be ready to go I like I like 10 to 12 weeks 10 to 12 he likes eight I mean I I normally do like 10 yeah just like but I've been super the first few weeks are [ __ ] pre-amps this Camp I'm channeling my Ryan Garcia would you ever do a Ryan Garcia regiment during Camp drink and smoke every night you do a little I I probably yeah I'm not actually doing that for the people out there he's locked in clocked in locked in locked in ready to go yeah May 20th we start but by the time the people see this it'll be uh June or something like that that is crazy you're fighting Mike that you fought Ben asran wrestler good good [ __ ] UFC was really good UF bit Tyron Woodley twice Anderson Silva knockout of the year with Nate Robinson can't forget about deji deji the the the goat do we say Gibb or is that like that's just crazy resume like literally [ __ ] C by way thank you Gib cuz we had a really good party after he knocked you the [ __ ] out who W we're skipping two professional boxers this always no no the recent ones this always happens I'm trying to just think cuz two cuz this is what everybody asked for this is what everybody asked for who who are the two professional boxers you fighted you got to name them Andre August and Ryan Borland go okay people don't people are like fight a pro boxer and then I do and then they're like that was boring as a man of combat he what were 10 and one nine and one nine and one what is your take on his [ __ ] all of his fights and who he's fighting in the competition dude I've been excited as [ __ ] since I started I remember you I remember the first time I watched was the Nate Robinson I watched that one at home and then uh I don't remember what it was after that but I remember watching Ben Asam in Atlanta I think that was the first time we actually met was right after the fight I think we hugged I was like y I picked you up you carried me back to the locker room that it was love at first sight that was crazy actually yeah actually I [ __ ] with him we became best friends like a couple days later you going to leave me hanging no no I would it's my eyebrow but uh yeah no I think he's obviously super skilled I think it's and I I it's inspired me even in the position I'm at UFC World Champ sexy you know what I mean like tall dark handsome TR inspired me just business the business uh side of things that you've done I've always thought putting on massive fight that's why I'm such a huge Conor fan cuz the pay-per-views he's done is so [ __ ] he's been fighting for four years and [ __ ] that he's been doing the massive fights the fights I get excited for there's a few UFC fights the high the big big fights that I get excited for but every time you fought even when uh Logan fought Floyd I was [ __ ] like excited like all fight week so i' I've been inspired from what you've done from a business side from the boxing side they even just start so not late but for a boxer but these boxers start when they're [ __ ] three four years old like Ryan and tank like they're young buck the Tik Tac I sent you of Devon Haney's debut fight yeah it's wild he was fighting a five foot Mexican in a in a bar was it Dante bro if I show you this [ __ ] oh no I did see that I did see that I did see that when you started even seeing that first video fighting Anderson Silva six fights in bro like do you know how insane that is he's one of the greatest correct me if I'm wrong UFC Strikers in history yeah 100% so does that make me one of the greatest UFC Strikers and one of the greatest wrestlers cuz wood but Ben ask was but Nate Diaz is ducking me in MMA oh am crazy I am weak that's a sick fight MMA I I wish it was that would happened right after the boxing same he's actually ducking it which is why it's crazy because he's not he's not in UFC no but we we upped it to 15 million damn that's crazy though that would be a I like Nate Diaz but that would be such a fun buildup he actually doesn't want to do it all Sean how do you genuinely Jake's not here it's me and you in a room actually how do you see that fight going for Jake what MMA him you're not here J for Nate in MMA keep it a bean God it's it's so hard to you're a big [ __ ] right now on what weight would it be5 185 I don't hate I don't I it's not a it's a winable fight for you I really do think that but Nate is so [ __ ] you would have to do what I did against aljo and morab do not let that [ __ ] grab you not that you can't wrestle cuz I know you can wrestle but once he starts grabbing you and doing Jiu-Jitsu if he gets on top his little he likes his little trips it would be hard for you to win I feel like if he if he started grappling just pure Jiu-Jitsu if it let's be real if it goes to the floor is he [ __ ] if he's on his back Nate's not like a super strong guy so if you learn how to like I mean I'm sure you know how to get up to a single legegg stuff like that but then you start getting your neck grabbed I don't know how much Jiu-Jitsu you know I mean Nate's a [ __ ] high Lev black belt um if you could keep it standing 100% there's winnable ways there if he if he went to the ground feel like he might be able to grab your neck no that that's exactly how I feel about it if I don't get guillotined yeah then I win the fight because even if he was on top take your back but even if he was on top of me I would just throw him off of me cuz he's also the weakest puncher I've ever fought like when he was hitting me I was I almost like started laughing I'm I'm not even saying this to talk [ __ ] out of everyone I've sparred in my whole entire life and everyone I fought his punches are even me we I don't think you ever landed a punch on me is that true well that's not true so I don't anyone no I'm literally not even talking [ __ ] which is why I think it's funny that he dropped Connor and [ __ ] cuz it's just like how Conor with like to the ground yeah like with a straight left hand yeah which is crazy like I I'm not just talking [ __ ] when I say that and I've told you I've literally told you this you told me this after the fight yeah I was like he is the weakest puncher I've ever fought in my life who's who's the weakest puncher you've ever you've ever come to face um there I mean there's been so many fights where I later didn't even get hit um uh does that like make you jaded at all when you get into a fight and you don't really get love that [ __ ] I prefer not to get hit at all but like if I was you and I wasn't get hit at all I'd probably work less no no no no I I know I don't get hit because I work that hard so if I didn't work hard I know I'd probably get hit I'm just a lazy [ __ ] so so here you are on top of the world we're launching [ __ ] W going to be a billion dollar business [ __ ] you I always forget uh UFC champ accomplishing all your goals what do you want next uh what are what is the threeyear fiveyear for Sean I I truly do want to get a boxing fight I'm not I'm not super set on that to where like I'm like going to be [ __ ] if it doesn't happen I do think it'll be interesting especially if I go out there knock morab out Ryan does his thing I think there's a [ __ ] sweet fight there if it doesn't happen not that worried about it want to go out there beat morab I'd like to you know if Max Max and Elia fight I would like to fight go move up to 45 fight the winner of that um you know maybe have three to five maybe have a few more kids definitely want another little baby I love kids my fite pump him out shout out to Danny who's your top pick in a boxing fight though if you if you could choose your Ryan now was like the I mean what he after dvon Beat Ryan I was like javante then Ryan goes out there does his thing really though I think Dante do you is that is that not a big [ __ ] leap Ryan like you said before he's been doing this his whole life one thing that's been proven is that the crossover it's it's not a good return Fury he did his thing okay the excep is the exception we've seen it with okay but then Anthony Joshua put his ass t was crazy super night night he was I'm I'm here for big fights like I wanted to get into the UFC and I wanted to make big fights watching Conor versus Floyd I'm like that [ __ ] happened really happened hey you versus Derek that could be as big as Connor in Floyd but no but I I think the craziest [ __ ] about Conor versus Floyd is that overall it was a W for everyone involved so there's certain fights where it just like doesn't matter what happens that's the world we live in yeah I mean UFC told me they said if the if the fight's big enough and it'll make the UFC money they'll do it what means more to you your your your record being pre or the amount of money you're making all right let me ask you something it's about to get real J's drunk Jasper's drunk as [ __ ] y record or money [ __ ] it depends the Gap like like the gap of money if it's like an extra 10 15 20 million but I lose a couple important fights probably not you just take like 150 million I'll be like like [ __ ] my record baby yeah it depends on the gap of money Jake Paul is not here right now just like a Mayweather Conor McGregor you taking that fight ver Jake yeah no he's my buddy I could I mean I don't I don't even no I no funny no there's you know what's funny is always in my Snapchat story once once a day pretty much someone says we knock out Jake Paul like there's every sing all the time for so long people just want to see me get [ __ ] is good though that's like the thing yeah but I'm sensitive it is funny though people [ __ ] love to hate confidence the craziest thing though actually about both of you like I met you very recently like I didn't realize you're as like normal as you are I don't know why I thought you violent like you guys are both like very goofy mellow and stupid and c and and awesome it's like the greatest thing ever like I couldn't believe when I met you you're like one of us like yeah I wouldn't think you're a [ __ ] yeah one of the coolest people in the world for sure yeah but not a lot of people uh can like I don't know we have like a weird it's hard toes Meat Heads I'm like this the this my dog I think it's a little bit of dark humor too it's like some [ __ ] up [ __ ] that we say off camera [ __ ] sometimes but I think it's like there's a certain yeah like that's how my whole group is back home it's like we all just we're all just kind of [ __ ] dumb I'm smart but like they're dumb well someone commented like yo Jake Paul's the dumbest genius in the world and I was just like I say that [ __ ] all the time you wed up the other day and I was like this is the most genius dumbass in the world no jokes Hey Brother chill buddy trying to get me cancelled no what how old are you 23 are you really yeah no you're not he's not is he what do you think think what did you think Oh no you're 267 27 what did you think he was I thought he was older I thought he was like 27 26 yeah a niggaer mature was that ladies you got a boo you got a girl you just be slanging she timeout right now I don't really talk about she don't time out it's a little tricky she not taking care of herself what do you guys think about Tom Brady R you watch it yeah they kept comp panning to you every 5 Seconds bro I swear there's a huge camer sitting there the whole time but it's cool to see Netflix going hard like that cuz they went hard they swing that meat around huha yeah let's pivot yeah just sorry about him I'm drunk man not yeah but but it was it was great it wasar they should have got rid of most of the football players going up there yeah there's a couple ones Ben afflac is that who that was on there that was wild that was so weird that was so weird it was cool to see how [ __ ] less sensitive people are becoming I feel like feel like it's recently like there's a big push back I think people got sick of it we went super super super PC for a long time people were like wait a second we like being able to say what we want to say I saw kill Tony say oh type of crazy [ __ ] on there that watch every [ __ ] Monday you were on kill Tony yeah how old are you actually buddy I'm a comedian Budd full time no yeah I was on that I was nervous as hell though I was like just being it's a live I do podcast once a week like me and Tim do our podcast every [ __ ] week but to be there in front of an audience live it's weird it's a different kind of well so you say Tim but let's let's talk about actually the fact that you get trained by by one of the greatest boxers of all time it's really that's something what's happened like that's crazy working with Canelo as your as your coach that's what I'm saying people don't going to be Ryan but like yeah that is true I never even thought about that for did you even know that this guy proba even know that that orange [ __ ] is nice wait will I get cancelled by the ginger community no you're black oh no my dad my dad's Ginger and I'm I'm like this [ __ ] is ginger bro he be shaving he be shaving his beard and I zoom in zoom in it's it's slightly orange so I'm a quarter ginger on South Park they made fun of Gingers and that [ __ ] made the news I [ __ ] with the ginger people but like y'all [ __ ] you like redhead girls oh yeah was Super Soaker but anyway yeah like y'all [ __ ] is orange and that's okay but back to you one of y'all that's not drunk I got a question cuz this guy clipped out a lot did Tim actually like you guys about him like saying to fight that was yeah that was real Tim always be talking [ __ ] to the like he's been doing that for so long so what happened he just talk I mean he just he Alo the knee's coming Alo you got to shoot Alo watch out for this like he's been saying that since I've been in the UFC like my debut vers terion where he was talking [ __ ] to terion too and uh he just does it every fight but this happened to just be crazy timing to like Tim you got Tim like alre you got to go and like literally he he like that's when he threw that left hand or whatever stepped into Southpaw and uh or stepped into Orthodox and got dropped it was it was funny the timing because he's like Al you got to go I don't I truly don't think that's why that's not why Alo went I bet you could I bet Alo didn't even hear that but Tim's always chirping and stuff but people on the internet are [ __ ] mad about that a lot of them actually like it I'll say majority of people are thinking that's the funniest [ __ ] ever there's a couple [ __ ] that are like you should be banned think it's a fight would you run the alra fight back or one and done never I like that why would I yeah am I supposed to top that you know what I'm saying I got love for Alo we had him on the show and he he seems like a good dude I actually don't mind Alo I does that ever happen where like you'll have a personal relationship with someone personal runin with them and it's all great but then now all of a sudden you have to fight each other I've never had I've not of running with someone that's been like uh more than like I've ran into aljo morab at the UFC I'm like hey what's up talk to him a little bit you know nothing no ill will um but I haven't had like a run with someone I actually lik them mhm and then at the fight them so you're not friends with any any other UFC fighters oh I have a there's there's a couple guys in my in my weight class that I train with at the lab that are like climbing the r uh ladders what happened with uh the 125 pounder I I don't even know his name and I'm not I'm just not like yeah what's his name I Alexander pania bro this story is actually kind of funny so 2016 I think it was it was like 3 and0 4 and0 and I was still fighting at like I fought at 125 not too long before that I fought at like 130 which is in a weight class was like so I wasn't like a 155 like I am now I was probably like 14 back then and uh Henry cejudo comes in I'm three or four and0 at the point at this point it comes in with this kid Alexander PTO just won The Ultimate Fighter I think he's got his UFC debut or it's his second UFC fight he's a couple weeks out from his fight I'm [ __ ] the night before me and Tim ripping bongs like hanging out being goofballs and [ __ ] so the next morning so we brought him in for sparring hry sudo brings in Alexander you're 4-0 he's King [ __ ] he he's just won The Ultimate Fighter and so they write the names on on the board who who you're sparring I'm like oh [ __ ] I got Alexander Pantoja versus me for one round one round he has three rounds so you write one one name then usually you you spar with one guy then they go out you spar with a fresh guy they go out spar with the fresh guy that's usually how it works so my name was just up there for one round that's it we Spar one round I didn't know anything about him cuz I I didn't really watch it like that 25 I don't really watch 25ers like that but somebody's like oh [ __ ] that's he a black belt he just won The Ultimate Fighter I was like oh [ __ ] I got to [ __ ] Focus up here first round boom Dro him with a liver kick and I wasn't going to post I record all my rounds I have so many sparring rounds like I wasn't going to post it was and for some reason I don't know why he would talk [ __ ] and bring it up cuz I literally I don't know you know know I don't know if you know how it works but you finish a guy the fight's over right no no did he um so I finished him the first round he hit him boom with the liver I posted the video yesterday and I've had it for a long time I didn't want to post it CU you don't post sparring like that but he just kept bringing it up so boom finished him first round um then uh after the first round round I go to walk out and Henry's over there crying box of Kleenex just like [ __ ] wiping his tears crying we want you for a second round so mad that this little like I was nobody just finished his dude he's in the UFC he's supposed to be the man finish him in the first round so Henry's crying saying he wants another round um so I piece him up again in the second round and I'm I'm dying at this point my lungs are burning I'm not in shape for fight I I'm nowhere near in Camp for a fight and I my lungs are hurting and uh Henry again crying blowing his nose and like I want you for a third and Benson comes in Benson Henderson absolute Legend comes in and was yelling cuz that's his it was the his gym the MMA lab we don't let people come in our gym and make us tired and blah blah blah and I'm [ __ ] just just huffing and puffing I just got done work in this dude for 10 minutes finished him in the first round did I say that liver kick um we'll put the footage I have the foot yeah it's right there insert the footage so third round come out boom piece him up again and he's so I don't know why he keeps bringing up this bringing this up in the media I think it's because people ask him but I don't know why he doesn't just say yeah yeah no no I don't want to talk about it he keeps saying like he's like oh I got in I found his range and [ __ ] I'm like bro you you stopped him in one round stopped him in round one and let him live and continue to fight for round two these delusional uh like wild people are weirdos but the reason I posted cuz he kept bringing it up exactly wait so is he the champ now at 125 yeah okay but why does he still want to talk [ __ ] to you if you got [ __ ] up that's what I'm saying I don't know either either you drop to 125 and get that no I can't drop to 125 that's too much now you're a thick [ __ ] I am a thick but yeah I SP I think it's important for up and cominging Spar uh fighters to record their rounds and watch their rounds not for that this reason you know but just to I've improve so much watching my sparring y I have thousands of rounds maybe not thousands hundreds of rounds from 10 years ago on my on my computer of uh it's like NFL team is watching footage the time [ __ ] 100% got to watch that [ __ ] that's I I have every single round recorded and and again I I don't post sparring either exactly you know put in a highlight video make a vlog boom we're sparring people but it's never like [ __ ] up your guy yeah exactly but Mike Perry honestly like what he's been doing is pretty Fu he went to Bare knuckle that [ __ ] just meant for him bare knuckle fighting it's crazy different going crazy he's doing good he's [ __ ] undefeated over there he's beating some really good guys stay over here [ __ ] [ __ ] only place that you should be getting tickets from is game time.co it's it's the only place I go it is the only place you can possibly go they have 110% price match guarantee that's what we use to get our tickets for the NBA Finals you can get $20 off your first order go to gametime.co JJ a $20 off your first order they're doing a deal specifically for y'all and you could see where your tickets are before you buy them seeing the seats they have all of the these great policies last 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platform there is Mike Paul versus Jake Tyson here's my official prediction tell us and even if even if it's against me like it's not it's not I do think you're going to beat Mike Tyson uh it's crazy that I even saying that out loud right now cuz you're fighting Mike Tyson it's [ __ ] crazy even just when we were walking down the the street today people all genders all ages knew you were fighting Mike Tyson it's such a massive fights live on Netflix which is [ __ ] crazy it's in a stadium which is [ __ ] crazy it is crazy I believe in you I see what you I see what you're doing I see you know that you believe in yourself Mike Tyson is uh hasn't fought in however long it's been so for him to just come up and get a fight be I I'm sure is going to be in as good a shape as he possibly could be in but it's just you know it's it's it's it's not his time right now I love Mike Tyson I never actually met him but I love Mike Tyson I do think Jake's gonna get the job done and I do think eight rounds eight two-minute rounds eight two-minute rounds I believe I believe you could put them away in the later rounds you know five six seven eight I do think you could put it put him down which is crazy to even [ __ ] think you rap yeah that's fire I'm just lazy and inconsistent that's not a w no that sh it is not you start using Brandon yell at him every day but cuz you can actually spit that's fire no but but people know him now from like podcasting they don't know he's a rapper and hurts his soul J sick name Lil jizz what J JZ that's good that's good you should switch your [ __ ] I switch my [ __ ] from come Master to kill Jas bro honestly though that's I think singing rapping spitting is one of the things that if I could switch talents be doing something like that that's good or twerking I ain't going to lie you shook that [ __ ] earlier I got a I got a thing on me you that [ __ ] wiggle a little bit let's let's pivot though cuz yep hit a pivot uh yeah do we have a speaker should we play Jasper's new song or something you got a new one I thought you were lazy some new [ __ ] go ahead play on your phone just put it in the speaker put it in the mic too this the [ __ ] I'm dropping when I'm Indie that sound decent I'm not rapping either I'm yapping that's not going to get you drunk yo I made this beat that's crazy I like the way you look I won't lie you got something I need you my with a fly girl like you doing with no guy a little sh don't really go outside I'm not crazy right place and right time you all smiles and pretty light brown [Music] [Music] like that better if I forget you but I just can't time saying do better and I'm sure you can find that guy that's worth all right cut it cut it cut it that's that's enough that's enough that's enough that's enough for real can't give the whole thing it's not out yet yeah hey good [ __ ] that's fire I'll be rapping though but that's some pop [ __ ] just cuz I can do it so why are you consistent cuz I'm lazy and jaded and and spoiled yeah it's unfortunate maam shout out to the homies for a lot of talented people out there that just are yeah don't smoke crack yo also there there is a parallel there don't do don't do that there's a parallel with the same thing he's talking about I think Fighters probably where it's like you could have all the talent in the world he's got that's why I get so [ __ ] mad at him it's cuz he has all the talent in the world really I get more pissed off than he gets and he could be a superstar but he just is lazy he doesn't put the work in he's not he's not strategic and it is hard when you got when you live in a crib in Puerto Rico right you got chefs and [ __ ] and you fly private with me yeah that's it that's it bro that's it you got to you got get paychecks and [ __ ] y'all got to evict me that's not a bad idea honestly I think we talked about it let's make I was I'm H we had a conversation but I just can't I can't because I love you so much I need you but then I'll probably be more like need you y yeah I guarante and then we you would still have to like fly in once a week to to do the pods and it would be resentment and then I I'll go out like and I'll try to start shooting at y'all oh my God I guarantee I would be in the position I'm in if I if I had money and like had already made it like financially had [ __ ] I wouldn't have made it that's why people think I'm crazy but CC the other side of it is like boom right so I'm from com California same hey shout out my [ __ ] yeah man I was homeless for the first half of my life mom's a drug addict dad's a gang member I've never had anything in my life right and my whole life has been music I dropped out in ninth grade I was like I'm going to make music my dad kicks me out he's like you can't live under this roof like be more like your brothers my brothers are [ __ ] star students one got a full ride scholarship loser all all type of [ __ ] nerd ass [ __ ] all those [ __ ] are fat and unemploy now one dropped out of school a full rise scholarship and is just sitting at home right so boom from having nothing to like me saying I'm going to risk everything that I have in my life to become a music artist and it works I get to a certain place and I'm like damn I did exactly I hit a ceiling right so it's like now I had to recalibrate he got a big record deal and then and then like use I crashed out and became a m addict for four four days a week for 30 like 90 days oh it's not bad but then I moved cuz my homeboy was like you need to move and I was like nah [ __ ] that I made a million I ain't going to move I'm going to maintain this lifestyle I'm a junkie but I'm rich yep I crashed out and was like yeah I need to move lost 60 lbs went to Puerto Rico locked in recalibrated and now I'm ready to be but that's that's here's the problem we run into now is that you've recalibrated and now it's still it's been 6 months the album's supposed to be 6 months ago and we're still waiting for the album that's the problem and that's what you got to work on never too late though let's start it let's get because you're vitamin deficient right yeah yeah cuz like a lot of people can't think straight when they're vitamin deficient and all that a week ago kind of elaborated on that so yeah this isn't therapy um I got shout out Suzie right right huh Susie but she's hot is she not you think my therapist you guys got the same one I could pee and vape on this podcast I got to go pee go pee I could pee yeah I mean I think we I think we end the episode because uh let's wrap it up you can get W available at Walmart anyway if you walk into Walmart whether you with your mom your daddy you by yourself you go in that [ __ ] men body care aisle you buy that and comment down below what you thought of the episode for um us being brain fried over and uh jper but Buzz also comment cuz this coming out when the product releases comment your favorite scent and sent $10,000 right no I'm send you 1,000 I ain't got 10,000 for you but I'll send you 1,000 I'll send someone 10,000 he'll send you 10,000 I'll send you a th000 and I'm going through the comments for sure anyway good luck Charlie and if you got a test soon good luck on that [ __ ] that's what we [Music] do what are those 8 O gloves I want you to know they were talking up there he ain't going easy so be ready all right legit be ready buddy I'm using these bags don't show Too Much don't show we're boxing we're boxing I don't I do that on accident sometimes just know that that might come up just keep your hands up I'm just saying I might throw that up I haven't knocked someone out in a while just cuz my last fight didn't go off it went off five rounds I've been like craving just putting someone's lights out lately it's weird versus your boy better Derek I I hope Sean isn't nice and just [ __ ] him up that's your that's your trainee [ __ ] D all righty folks welcome to your main event of the evening starting out first in the loser corner you have better day with a record of no wins no losses I beat ste's [ __ ] out no anything he is 5'7 120 lbs lost in the mile to better JoJo but he's still delusional in his fighting career and to my left in the winning Corner sponsored by W sugar sha Ali The Undefeated UFC champion of the world it's time to fight bring it to the center we already spoke about the rules in the locker room beforehand give me your glove give me your hand touch gloves I want a clean fair fight no no hits below the waist back to your Corners time you ready judge you ready and fight [Music] [Applause] I'm out of balance or something oh do Dodge that [ __ ] hold on hold on hold on hold [ __ ] come on come on just oh my God one back of the head no no no back of the head four ref didn't see it five six me in the eyes Walk This Way Walk This Way for me he's running Walk This Way for me my car run all right and we're in in that right that's called all right time time time one two that was a that was a slip four up six bro Rizo what the [ __ ] are you doing all right get up SLP all right come on time in come on got come on got you [ __ ] black I'm going to I need to work I need to see some work black UT D somebody said 10 seconds like 8 seconds ago all right great back to your corner back to your corner back to your corner stay in there you're doing good right now this feel good I feel good do you see that one I landed clean on his face I think we all terrible shut the [ __ ] up for once in your [ __ ] life shut the [ __ ] up Sean's doing half punches on him shut up I'll act like uh no don't act like bro I'm just I'm putting in work all right how this how you when you [ __ ] beat the old wash UFC fighters everybody comments you're fighting old was UFC fighters what do you think 10s I think they're right in in round two round two round two oh got him [ __ ] oh [Music] [ __ ] hey put that hey that that's a that's going to be a 10 count can't get me by the that's going to be a 10 count that's going to be a 10 count next time back in the just there going to be a 10 count next time get in there give me real quick get him with some you thank you perfect okay BL I'm going to need to see some more one two back to your corner white Corner neutral Corner 5 6 seven eight n look at me thank you bro come on you want to fight do you want to fight when I do you want to fight yes yeah wait wait time back in wake up time time time time time I promise okay it's to the floor the rules of transfer to MMA tap tap tap he's St he's T he's ta all right I block out all right you're good to go wait wait the fight was over get the [ __ ] out of the ring oh it's over it's over it's over it's over go you got it's over it's over it's over [Music]	b boom and that that's how that works what's up with everybody on your body though everybody talking [ __ ] even people youat I wanted to bring up yeah and he's like saying like he's trying to post about you even yesterday it is weird but when you concuss 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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXPZ1KzdpsY	4,103	mXPZ1KzdpsY	2024-06-20 00:00:00	well well well ladies and gentlemen do we have a special episode for you today none other than sugar Shan om Ali the current UFC bantamweight champion a legend in his own right this episode was off the cusp we were a little turned up Jasper was really really drunk so we weren't really prepared for this at all the conversations definitely got wild and obviously as you guys have seen over maybe the past week or so we launched a new company called w am men's carine in Walmart this company is so near and dear to my heart and I partnered with Shawn to bring this Vision to life amongst other celebrities artists and athletes that we are announcing over the next couple of weeks here get your w at Walmart it is very very very very very good stuff and yes you heard the news I am fighting Mike Perry on July 20th it is going down I'm still fighting Mike Tyson November 15th that is happening but I'm staying active knocking out Mike Perry on July 20th and I'm excited for y'all to listen to this episode and he the vision of w how it all came together and how Shawn got involved and then everything to do with Shawn's career this podcast has been a long time coming but prepare yourself for some idiocracy per usual uh this is [ __ ] with Jake Paul we have a secret handshake check it out AC let me get that stop playing mean yeah we created that because we actually have so many things to get into here this has been a long time coming Jasper did bring up something and the reason W was created was because the other products in the category had harmful dyes parabens sulfates hormone disruptors and so we wanted to create the better for you vitamin infused product and and Sean's a co-owner just signed today yesterday for the show but we we'll get into all of that we we've been you know bringing sea on for like we've been talking for like a month and a half yes sir yes sir um it is currently May we've been doing a lot of shoots this podcast will probably come out at post W launch you can get I'm so drunk I'm sorry y'all you can get it in uh Walmart every Walmart you in Paca Walmart get it in you in Pensacola it's in Walmart in Kentucky Walmart Walmart so basically uh we we brought in the greatest people in the world to help build W and Sean is one of those people but dialing everything back we will get into the company the body washes how this all came about but uh we've been wanting to do this podcast and thanks for joining us BR hey guys hey thanks for joining us right did you uh yeah I did you sh for an hour bro did you did you do do we know do we set the stage of the day and the fact that Jasper's slash right now okay cool y drunk is a [ __ ] y like double drunk yep yep yep you drunk yeah all that so um but just winding everything back uh I think we've been friends for a long time in fact you were the first guest on this show oh [ __ ] crazy Zoom crazy that's right that's right that's right the first ever episode you zoomed in and that's crazy we're thankful we're thankful for our friendship and it's pretty cool that now we're here again today uh getting less views than before and that's fire that's it congratulations less views we're not we're not it was it was a joke it was a joke if you watching this please like and comment cuz we falling off right now but man by the time this comes out you're going to be getting ready for me RAB how do you say his name I don't remember morab is iTab or or I don't know me that's got to be it me but you got to say it with the emphasis look meab mirab meab meab there you go there you go so yeah I should be getting ready hopefully I ain't got nothing scheduled hopefully uh you know Uncle Dana will call me say hey buddy you want to fight in in here and there and there and then I'm d b boom and that that's how that works what's up with everybody on your body though everybody talking [ __ ] even people youat I wanted to bring up yeah and he's like saying like he's trying to post about you even yesterday it is weird but when you concuss someone you know what I just say they don't think as well as they used to so I think he's still concussed and he's a little confused because he's talking [ __ ] still he not in his right mind because I can just throw up another post go because it's a throwback Thursday it's a throwback Friday do you think do you think people don't respect you enough cuz I I see that as your friend an unbiased like they just see social media and podcasts and the the hair and stuff like that and then they just sh week but I [ __ ] with you I appr that um I don't think it is well you can't you know I think it's fine I think you're jealous I ain't going to lie I got some inches under here let's smell that hair you can smell my [ __ ] must who I do think I feel a little bit disrespected as the champ but I think that last fight against Che kind of you know shut a little bit of people up canny go five rounds Cheeto beat me before the Alo fight um shut a lot of people up canny grapple didn't have to Grapple cuz he couldn't take me down yeah Alo couldn't take you down I think that was the biggest thing where they were like yo that's his weakness like yeah wrestle him down and then he just proved everyone wrong that's what's so interesting about this morab fight is he's supposedly well he is he's [ __ ] good at wrestling he's really really good at wrestling he's boring as [ __ ] and no one will there won't be one comment saying yeah right he's actually kind of fun not one person I'm com won I'm com you can I ask you something would you put yourself in your own top five Strikers in the UFC oh I'm yeah yo easily who's your Mount Rushmore strikker well I I mean I would unbiasedly I would put him as number one because adna is in like top three but he also like got beat by put that [ __ ] down boy he did uh bro I'm up there I'm up there Max is really good Max super his striking that's a good top five there that's four me Max Elia adaga uh I'm sure I'm missing some your with a one would it be that's that's a minus one Mount rmore is four yeah but I only got four but if you throw the five in it's a plus one isn't there only four yeah but but you ready to throw the five up I'm four all right that's my more but yeah once again uh this is a [ __ ] ass podcast so we apologize hey but something something you just touched on you talked about Fighters being fun and interesting how much and you're you're a superstar how much of you being a superstar how much of any fighter being a superstar comes down to them being fun and interesting as you are and how much of it comes down to their actual fighting good question uh well who's a super who who obviously Connor comes to mind I think he's he's a character he's fun he's interesting who else comes to mind is like a superstar I would say Izzy gives that off I think he's an interesting guy other than that there's not like a ton of fun like Ryan Garcia is doing a really good job right now of being [ __ ] interesting being a character uh I think that's fentel I think it's drugs as well I wouldn't deny that but he's still making people interested in Ryan versus Devon Haney was an interesting fight not because Devon Haney that dude's boring as [ __ ] you think he did them roids no I don't think Ryan did I think Devon needs to take that L he being a [ __ ] about I think the craziest [ __ ] you said to me and like I don't even know if we want to put this in there or bring it up but we we can always remove it but uh because of your your situation with the ostarine and you said to me like and it I like fully felt your energy you're like I swear on my daughter's life I never did that and you got popped for it yeah same thing happened uh to Ryan right now he popped for aost the low super low level a some [ __ ] like a trillionth of a gr the same thing happened to me uh so when that came out with Ryan like I truly truly didn't believe he took anything because it was the same [ __ ] and it happens to a lot of [ __ ] ostarine happens to how does that happen it's called the tainted supplement so if you're taking anything that has protein in it that's not third party tested uh could not just protein any kind of supplement that's not third party tested it's either NSF or there's a bunch of different third party tests but if you're not if you're taking something that doesn't have that there's chances there could be something in it but austram people pop for that all the time my case was not that big of a deal cuz I wasn't as huge of a star as I am now but it still was like a big deal because of my name the reason it's going so crazy right now is because Ryan G is a superstar so people are freaking out but it happens to a lot of athletes I just before we move past it I just on that Superstar topic how is that is that Superstar factor that that someone like you has someone like Ryan has someone like Connor has is it something you're born with or is it is it a practice is it something you can learn and do you sit back and like think like oh how can I go viral today how can I I think it's both I think you have to want to be a superstar there's some guys in the UFC like I want to make more money I want this I want that but they don't really want to be a superstar you you got to want it you got to you got to have some kind of vision a long time before well and and also like who you are as a person you have to have that like Fire Within still though like before you got into want famous I want to be in the NFL I want to be NBA I wanted to be a [ __ ] athlete when I was young was instilled I was just for whatever reason I wanted to make it when I was young I'm from H in Montana like small ass can I ask you something what's your opinion on like the take b nickel takes like where he's like super friendly and humble and like I think he's a sweet ass [ __ ] they love him but like bro that [ __ ] pisses me off I think that [ __ ] is cool too n like you're a hum like [ __ ] talk your [ __ ] you're what 670 like bro talk your [ __ ] like it it kind of bores me no I get yeah I mean that's that's some people's opinion is like he's too nice too humble too that but he's being himself um but he's also super young in the sport I think he and he's still pretty what is he 28 you're in a sport of War if I was playing like [ __ ] Cricket I would be like yeah like but that's that's the thing is for for for a character like him what it seems like is that's what he's in is the sport of war and that's it he's not in the sport of entertainment he's a nice ass sweetheart get there is some people that that understand both sides of things but I also have respect for and I see when someone's that's strictly in the sport of if I play chess with you I'm going to be like good game and I'm going to shake your hand I talk [ __ ] be F ass to a PO it I'm going to be like [ __ ] you you need to get better at whatever you're doing dial dialing it back a little bit um to the aost stream thing I think it's like what do you think about Conor tweeting still at like 3:00 a.m. like coked out he he he he sent shots at me and Ryan talking [ __ ] but it's it's crazy coming from Connor who literally got out of the usada pool to do steroid like legit steroids so it's kind of wild and I was the biggest Connor fan for a long time in the last couple weeks ever since he sent that wasn't even a couple weeks ago probably a week ago I've been trying to hate him I've been trying to be like [ __ ] you Connor but I can't I love Connor I it's like I am excited for his fight coming up I'm excited I want you know I'm all about it what's the fight is it Chandler Chandler in June it's going to be big they just been trying to do it for a long time so I didn't know if it still still I think officially I think it's I think I think the craziest part about it is what like eight weeks before a fight that he's still like coked and drunk out of his mind who you got though who that's a good it is crazy that he still like he tweeted that deleted like 20 minutes later he was definitely [ __ ] up on well that's what I was going to say we can't just Grace past that do you is that that's a that's a bold thing to say do you you know he's on coke is that a is that are you [ __ ] gills I don't know anything but I know for certain that he's brother like look at the time of the tweets and look at what he's saying like also and he's like known for this simar tweets yeah yeah I don't know just manic brother I think he is I do think Ryan is I think he when he said he was playing into it a little bit I I think he's kind of using that I think he's [ __ ] crazy what what what would happen if you and Ryan boxed that's I mean there's only one way to find out he has a lot better chances of beating me in a boxing match than he does in a real fight keep up I do I I [ __ ] I truly believe in myself that's how I got to the [ __ ] position I'm in right now I can box I can throw hands um I don't think it'd be easy by any means I do think it's possible I beat him I'm not saying my my odds are great but I do believe I could beat Ryan Bo if there was anybody you could box for your first boxing match debut who are you Bo give an easy fight give me Deon Haney you give [Laughter] me honest answer uh I mean if we're I I would say Floyd if I Pi if I could sit here and pick who I box first boxing fight I pick Floyd because it would be the biggest most crazy most legendary fight maybe not most legendary some people for me okay but outside of that on a skill based level oh I I could hang with some good [ __ ] pro boxers I'm undefeated in boxing you think you think if you and uh ilot boxed that' be ilot is very very [ __ ] skilled boxing that's an interesting question so who what what professional boxer would you equate your PA Mike Tyson I know of Devon Haney now because Ryan Garcia beat him uh dvon Davis he's really short I know him um maybe smacking [ __ ] up though he does he that little guy he can't he can't ride roll coasters though that is true so there's a there's a tradeoff like Cruz fight he was riding a roller coaster no like I'm talking about like at the fair oh no you know like there there's a trade-off in life you know where things get weird it's like it's like yo he's really good but you can't even just hit Dante fan brother can't even ride the top not a Dante fan that's not what I'm wait what did what did I say to say I'm not a you didn't say I mean I don't think he knows that it's a short joke I don't think he picked up on you want me tell him I was joking shut the [ __ ] up I get I say that was a joke I'm what are you trying to say I'm but are you trying to insinuate that I'm short no honestly you're probably what five you're 5'9 you're like 5' seven and a half stop doing stop doing it stop doing that cuz [ __ ] is going to see this and be like he's 5'6 actually if you watching this and you think I'm 5'6 and you want to try me in person please any [ __ ] who see me out I'm punching your [ __ ] out I'm like 5'9 on a good day when when I'm lying to women I'm 5'10 for sure who's gonna ID me I'm wearing forces I'm a [ __ ] liar all right so now for the truth jakee he's like what like he's 5 No but don't do that bro all right all right we won't we'll cut that out like yeah n don't cut it out n don't see me and see these but you know dvon is 5'5 legit that's cool bro I know but is that not short just be honest is that five five short for a grown man for a grown man is that short you can be a fan I'm not I'm a fan of javante and he's five that's a little little bro all right the joke went over his head anyways so the short joke [ __ ] is trying to play me like I'm short no no no we're we're not we're not you're [ __ ] tall all right let's pivot yeah so um SI yeah sh shout out to the shout out to the pivot but but yeah like Jasper's a little riled up things are on edge he's a little he's a little turned up it's been a long day a long two days we've been shooting uh because we have a new [ __ ] company did we say we talk about that yet I we said in the beginning raise your arms up [ __ ] goed [ __ ] goed shout out to w a fun few days it's been a fun few days days you're going to see the content rolling out um but you speaking of but Ruby Rose did a good job oh my God I wanted to bite that M listen anyway if you're near wmart if you're watching this right now I don't give a [ __ ] what you're doing you could be taking care of your kid you could be taking care of your elderly parents [ __ ] them go to Walmart June 1st Nationwide I don't care if you in Pensacola you in Massachusetts all in places that sound [ __ ] stupid there's a Walmart there and you go there it's a better for you product vitamin ifuse number [ __ ] one yeah no basically I I think dialing back like the business story of it because you're also like a very smart businessman intellectual doing everything you do in and outside of the Ring which a lot of people don't have which contributes to you being uh the biggest in my opinion the biggest UFC star um but yeah we we basically I guess this is the podcast where we tell people where W came from but um we started building this company like a year and a half ago and really saw how all these other companies like as we move into better for you products and less harmful products we saw how the leaders in the space didn't have the best formulas didn't have the best manufacturing had all of these harmful substances in it and we're also brands from when I was like 9 years old I don't want to list names but they're still like having all the Shelf space in stores and I was just like this is wild like this is boring this is lame the the the we need something new we need something that's better uh males have vitamin uh deficiencies like crazy especially with magnesium Jasper just can't get enough of it uh especially with magnesium um and biotin is in the body wash uh vitamin E one two of the best vitamins for your skin and hair um but as The Story Goes long story short we we come up with this brand that represents so many things um but I think winning in everyday life whether you're the valedictorian whether you are the high school jock whether you're philanthropist now you have a product that you can embody and wear every single day that's increasing your vitamin intake that is less harmful to you that's where the idea came from and just being the winning formula in category uh went to Walmart pitched them the whole idea they [ __ ] loved it helped us build the brand even and come up with the scent profiles and all the things that are the the most popular um and this has been something I've wanted to do for so long we had to bring in the best people to be a part of it the winners in their category and that's number one Numero Uno sha Ali here um and he instantly saw the vision and already in the past couple of days it's been like super fun filming all the content behind yeah I was pumped when you [ __ ] called me appreciate you thinking of me and uh excited to help grow this business [ __ ] it's needed it's needed we're going to take over the whole bathroom you know tooed if you [ __ ] with the dogs and cows and chickens dog in you I know what I got that dog in me and I use it so be dog free baby am I missing anything with that no I think that was great the one the one thing I would touch on and you did in a way but it's it is body wash it is body spray it is deodorant but it also is there's an ethos that stands behind this brand which is the ethos that you stand for and it's the ethos that you stand for and the ethos that you stand for and the one that I stand for if I say ethos again I'm GNA start stumbling over my words but it's it's it's like you said it it doesn't the winners in life aren't just you you're on a big stage in life you're you're you're crushing it in every aspect financially you're a star you're leading your sport that's awesome on every [ __ ] level it's it's an encouragement to to young men all around the world to [ __ ] get up off their ass and get sh it don't matter if you score high on a test you whatever the [ __ ] it is that you do well maybe not so it matters what the [ __ ] you do but it also doesn't matter what the [ __ ] you do anybody is a winner as long as you put in the work and you have the will to win and I love it I I would say that's wrong I would say that not anybody is a winner and I think that's something that the brand also stands for like you really got to win you got to as you have the will to win no I'm just saying I think that's an important point cuz we live in a world today where a lot of people think everybody can be a winner that's not true if you Los you might be a loser and if you're a loser the good news is there's a hidden l in the logo actually we'll trace it for you with our graphic design team there's a hidden l in the logo because and I I I wanted to make sure that was was a thing because the biggest loss of my life turned out to be the biggest W in my life and I always had the saying like two L's make a w and when I lost to Tommy Fury it was embarrassing all these things but I realized I wasn't focused I wasn't as locked in as I could be the team around me from a boxing standpoint wasn't good I was having personal issues with relationships and all of these things that I had to shed and grow from and I grew into this new and completely different person but I wouldn't have done that if I didn't lose on the biggest stage possible and I think that was part of the ethos ethos ethos ethos of the brand was to encourage people that in their lowest moments to turn those into into their biggest W's eventually when Jake just said that the biggest loss of his life ended up being the biggest W of his life you said same yeah yeah same what what was that story for supposedly lost for lost to Cheeto back in 2020 August it it was I mean it sucked at the time but I it didn't suck too bad because I was like okay I didn't lose because I you know and it was different I wasn't I mean I was focused everything went good training camp everything was good but I was like that sucks I'm goingon to get that back someday when the time is right and then my last fight two two months ago in Miami headline I'm the champ defending my belt against that same guy how rewarding was that three and a half years later August three and a half years later boom beat his ass as a fan of yours it made it so sweet because of all the doubters that constantly like put you down and didn't believe in you and said he was going to destroy you and then you he literally like you embarrass him that was a performance of a life you embarrassed the [ __ ] out of him and I think that's literally a prime example of turning l l into into a w and I really that's what that's where the hidden l in the brand in the logo is um and representing that every single day when you see these products in your bathroom and when we say we have a saying it's not just a product it's a lifestyle absolutely trademarked Incorporated All Rights Reserved 2024 brother uh but but yeah man it's it's an honor to have you a part of this and uh we we really made what we think are the best products on the market from the body wash being exfoliating vitamin infused to the body spray what we found out is a lot of these fragrances like you get like these high-end designer brands that have like $500 colognes turns out it only cost them a dollar to make that and they're literally making like $499 on top of that so we had a fine fragrance house is what these places are called and we got the super expensive scents and gave it to people to what they're worth like we're not trying to these products are super super affordable and I think it's so funny because that's the world we live in where like you just label something and get like a European girl to go this is one of the lower priced men's care products on the market yeah if I'm not mistaken and it's it's the $500 fragrance in the affordable bottle because we want everyone we've been using a body wash in the past two days since we got the samples after the shoot and I personally want to say I got the in there you could bleep it out whatever you want to do W's winning n b genuinely that's that's the saying is the it's winning formula cuz it really is like it really is if if we're going to call our company [ __ ] W it has to be the best we the winners winning product indeed indeed winning customers all that type of [ __ ] indeed better Derek today he's just got a punch I'm not Li I talked to him before he left he wants to punch you up bro he's got a punchable face I like him though it's weird it's like God I like that guy but I want [ __ ] KO pick him up and like it's okay boom one more to the liing me earlier and I'm just letting you know don't shoot the messenger on God he said he wants to get in the ring with you I can call him really he oh yeah he he you want to call him yeah where is he at is wait uh no call no call he's coming up oh um he's talking smack he said he actually wants a spar I swear to God he said he wants to get percentage should I go you guys I literally out let that's crazy timeing saying talk [ __ ] to my face if you're going to talk [ __ ] that's crazy timing what were you saying they were telling me you want to get in the ring and Spar bit or they didn't say Spar they said fight yeah I'm down to do either but uh yeah no I'm just sick of the [ __ ] [ __ ] you've been saying on your podcast uh you called me you made fun of my weight and you called me gay I did not no I well okay okay you said that he wouldn't ever say that what you got to say what your chest that's what I just [ __ ] said bro I he was like oh if I if stand on it you talking to him you talking to him you ain't talking to me my assistant Sono would would piece you he's never boxed a day he never I'm here to fight your video I'm here to fight you what did I what was the first thing I said to you when when I saw you what was the first thing I said to you that we could fight no I said you look thick wait but when we were talking earlier weren't you saying he's a [ __ ] and you wanted to get a ring with him and all type [ __ ] what I'm saying right now say it then I just said the [ __ ] ring so we can after this we have a ring 2 feet away and he's a [ __ ] and whatever else you was saying to me yeah he's [ __ ] what about my hair say something about my hair I I already said that at the W shoot that you look like you haven't showered in [ __ ] a week okay all right d hey buddy hey hey what's your long-term play not no but see you guys you guys are making me seem crazy you're out of your mind he Derek Dereck go warm up hit the hit the heavy back H the warm up is almost listen legendary as send location dble PIV go warm up hey hey double pivot sit sit I'm not [ __ ] no I I'll sit and talk but I'm not [ __ ] no sit on the floor walk you want to take my seat hey how much how much of what's going on ch ch how much of what's going on is is a character versus like actual delusion how much is a character yeah decent uh I would say there are times where I know what I have to do for my boxing career to like like we all why is he laughing cuz you said career I beat your [ __ ] boy your [ __ ] [ __ ] bro you know what I I recall you did beat I recall calling steiny saying what the [ __ ] was that buddy I love steiny but I do remember watching that and thinking I wasn't proud of that I was not proud of that from steiny and I wish I wish he would come to the gym I wish he'd get in there I wish he'd train a little bit and I wish he would have a rematch but that's on him I've been trying to get the rematch but he's been ding me do you think Derek won he said I won I thought I thought he won I'd have to rewatch but I do think I come on baby the comments have [ __ ] dragged me for months after that [ __ ] 99% of the comments say I lost so please say it one more time Sean no I said it what I said it's like therapy or something no but to answer your question uh we all know uh uh as Fighters there's a side of promotion stop [ __ ] first of all Gus shut the [ __ ] up our our audio guys uh like can't stop laughing is that the facial his facial hair or is what he's saying bro that's bold of you to talk facial hair bro that's bold of you to I'm not Li you look dirty you look like Jeffrey done training right Jesus I train every day but anyway we know like there's two sides of of promotion as well as the actual athletic competition that is Combat Sports so there are times where I might play up a little bit like hey promoting but let him go let him go all right if you if all if you think I'm all promoting that I'll see you in the [ __ ] ring and I'll knock both you either of you out well um well Jake's a [ __ ] fat [ __ ] right now he weighs like 240 so I got I goty I gotta pick my words wisely like he's Jake's 240 I I know I know but like I'm not going to sit here and pick a fight against somebody that's 240 when I'm se's my weight class when I stopped you in one round like just like but when I was getting started out of come this is where I'm at since then I told him he could have somebody tag team I'm down I'm down to fight anybody in this [ __ ] room not one person in this room I'm the best part about this is like uh right after this we I think you're you're down to do like one round or three minutes right I mean I'd prefer 12 but we okay yeah 12 I mean that my biggest advantage in the ring ring is my cardio I do 12 12 okay so no I have a genuine question so five round I'm not I'm not one have I ever said I'm a UFC fighter no I'm just say we can box I'm just saying that's I'm used to five you want to do three we could do that aren't you trying to be a boxer with your [ __ ] Ryan Garcia call he would knock knock your [ __ ] ass out so quickly it wouldn't be close I'm one and0 pro boxing what are you actually I saw that video I saw video I'm also want to know thank you officially hey they count that's real commiss but uh I didn't mean I didn't mean to take I didn't mean to take over the pot I just wanted to a couple you definitely didn't yeah okay I try I'm trying to help you no we love you go warm up yeah yeah go warm up the bags don't warm up too much though don't get tired how much do you wa right now without Timberlands and jean shorts on high 120 low 13 no without lying though okay that [ __ ] is you think you got you got him one round I think I could beat him I think I can beat him I I think I could handicap myself to three just put on one glove I could do that what do you think actually happens now when you go downstairs and he gets in that ring like what's his plan that's what I don't get about him but that's why it's that's do me a favor that's why he's Cloud it up because love [ __ ] up [ __ ] he's going he's going to try to Yap he's going to try to talk please just go 100% yeah no actually actually please go 100% if he signs a consent form we'll have him no we've already got like multiple consent forms for better media with like death wavers [ __ ] no no no but he needs it he needs that I'll go like 40 no go like 75 Sean I'm I'm going to be honest bro don't even go 20% he's the nice [ __ ] bro don't do that bro you want him to go 100% no no to be honest but just like work with him and then just like maybe just just like a really good punching and then he'll give up 75% uh I'm nervous man I'm shaking for Derek yeah yeah that's good I understand that there a couple flinches if you Flinch hard enough the the wind coming off you will put him down let him walk you down and bait him boom sleeping what's your next upcoming fight a maraba jaaba and when is that uh not nothing yet I'm hoping for September maybe October maybe November maybe December I'm F ready to go baby what if it was next month I wouldn't be ready to go I like I like 10 to 12 weeks 10 to 12 he likes eight I mean I I normally do like 10 yeah just like but I've been super the first few weeks are [ __ ] pre-amps this Camp I'm channeling my Ryan Garcia would you ever do a Ryan Garcia regiment during Camp drink and smoke every night you do a little I I probably yeah I'm not actually doing that for the people out there he's locked in clocked in locked in locked in ready to go yeah May 20th we start but by the time the people see this it'll be uh June or something like that that is crazy you're fighting Mike that you fought Ben asran wrestler good good [ __ ] UFC was really good UF bit Tyron Woodley twice Anderson Silva knockout of the year with Nate Robinson can't forget about deji deji the the the goat do we say Gibb or is that like that's just crazy resume like literally [ __ ] C by way thank you Gib cuz we had a really good party after he knocked you the [ __ ] out who W we're skipping two professional boxers this always no no the recent ones this always happens I'm trying to just think cuz two cuz this is what everybody asked for this is what everybody asked for who who are the two professional boxers you fighted you got to name them Andre August and Ryan Borland go okay people don't people are like fight a pro boxer and then I do and then they're like that was boring as a man of combat he what were 10 and one nine and one nine and one what is your take on his [ __ ] all of his fights and who he's fighting in the competition dude I've been excited as [ __ ] since I started I remember you I remember the first time I watched was the Nate Robinson I watched that one at home and then uh I don't remember what it was after that but I remember watching Ben Asam in Atlanta I think that was the first time we actually met was right after the fight I think we hugged I was like y I picked you up you carried me back to the locker room that it was love at first sight that was crazy actually yeah actually I [ __ ] with him we became best friends like a couple days later you going to leave me hanging no no I would it's my eyebrow but uh yeah no I think he's obviously super skilled I think it's and I I it's inspired me even in the position I'm at UFC World Champ sexy you know what I mean like tall dark handsome TR inspired me just business the business uh side of things that you've done I've always thought putting on massive fight that's why I'm such a huge Conor fan cuz the pay-per-views he's done is so [ __ ] he's been fighting for four years and [ __ ] that he's been doing the massive fights the fights I get excited for there's a few UFC fights the high the big big fights that I get excited for but every time you fought even when uh Logan fought Floyd I was [ __ ] like excited like all fight week so i' I've been inspired from what you've done from a business side from the boxing side they even just start so not late but for a boxer but these boxers start when they're [ __ ] three four years old like Ryan and tank like they're young buck the Tik Tac I sent you of Devon Haney's debut fight yeah it's wild he was fighting a five foot Mexican in a in a bar was it Dante bro if I show you this [ __ ] oh no I did see that I did see that I did see that when you started even seeing that first video fighting Anderson Silva six fights in bro like do you know how insane that is he's one of the greatest correct me if I'm wrong UFC Strikers in history yeah 100% so does that make me one of the greatest UFC Strikers and one of the greatest wrestlers cuz wood but Ben ask was but Nate Diaz is ducking me in MMA oh am crazy I am weak that's a sick fight MMA I I wish it was that would happened right after the boxing same he's actually ducking it which is why it's crazy because he's not he's not in UFC no but we we upped it to 15 million damn that's crazy though that would be a I like Nate Diaz but that would be such a fun buildup he actually doesn't want to do it all Sean how do you genuinely Jake's not here it's me and you in a room actually how do you see that fight going for Jake what MMA him you're not here J for Nate in MMA keep it a bean God it's it's so hard to you're a big [ __ ] right now on what weight would it be5 185 I don't hate I don't I it's not a it's a winable fight for you I really do think that but Nate is so [ __ ] you would have to do what I did against aljo and morab do not let that [ __ ] grab you not that you can't wrestle cuz I know you can wrestle but once he starts grabbing you and doing Jiu-Jitsu if he gets on top his little he likes his little trips it would be hard for you to win I feel like if he if he started grappling just pure Jiu-Jitsu if it let's be real if it goes to the floor is he [ __ ] if he's on his back Nate's not like a super strong guy so if you learn how to like I mean I'm sure you know how to get up to a single legegg stuff like that but then you start getting your neck grabbed I don't know how much Jiu-Jitsu you know I mean Nate's a [ __ ] high Lev black belt um if you could keep it standing 100% there's winnable ways there if he if he went to the ground feel like he might be able to grab your neck no that that's exactly how I feel about it if I don't get guillotined yeah then I win the fight because even if he was on top take your back but even if he was on top of me I would just throw him off of me cuz he's also the weakest puncher I've ever fought like when he was hitting me I was I almost like started laughing I'm I'm not even saying this to talk [ __ ] out of everyone I've sparred in my whole entire life and everyone I fought his punches are even me we I don't think you ever landed a punch on me is that true well that's not true so I don't anyone no I'm literally not even talking [ __ ] which is why I think it's funny that he dropped Connor and [ __ ] cuz it's just like how Conor with like to the ground yeah like with a straight left hand yeah which is crazy like I I'm not just talking [ __ ] when I say that and I've told you I've literally told you this you told me this after the fight yeah I was like he is the weakest puncher I've ever fought in my life who's who's the weakest puncher you've ever you've ever come to face um there I mean there's been so many fights where I later didn't even get hit um uh does that like make you jaded at all when you get into a fight and you don't really get love that [ __ ] I prefer not to get hit at all but like if I was you and I wasn't get hit at all I'd probably work less no no no no I I know I don't get hit because I work that hard so if I didn't work hard I know I'd probably get hit I'm just a lazy [ __ ] so so here you are on top of the world we're launching [ __ ] W going to be a billion dollar business [ __ ] you I always forget uh UFC champ accomplishing all your goals what do you want next uh what are what is the threeyear fiveyear for Sean I I truly do want to get a boxing fight I'm not I'm not super set on that to where like I'm like going to be [ __ ] if it doesn't happen I do think it'll be interesting especially if I go out there knock morab out Ryan does his thing I think there's a [ __ ] sweet fight there if it doesn't happen not that worried about it want to go out there beat morab I'd like to you know if Max Max and Elia fight I would like to fight go move up to 45 fight the winner of that um you know maybe have three to five maybe have a few more kids definitely want another little baby I love kids my fite pump him out shout out to Danny who's your top pick in a boxing fight though if you if you could choose your Ryan now was like the I mean what he after dvon Beat Ryan I was like javante then Ryan goes out there does his thing really though I think Dante do you is that is that not a big [ __ ] leap Ryan like you said before he's been doing this his whole life one thing that's been proven is that the crossover it's it's not a good return Fury he did his thing okay the excep is the exception we've seen it with okay but then Anthony Joshua put his ass t was crazy super night night he was I'm I'm here for big fights like I wanted to get into the UFC and I wanted to make big fights watching Conor versus Floyd I'm like that [ __ ] happened really happened hey you versus Derek that could be as big as Connor in Floyd but no but I I think the craziest [ __ ] about Conor versus Floyd is that overall it was a W for everyone involved so there's certain fights where it just like doesn't matter what happens that's the world we live in yeah I mean UFC told me they said if the if the fight's big enough and it'll make the UFC money they'll do it what means more to you your your your record being pre or the amount of money you're making all right let me ask you something it's about to get real J's drunk Jasper's drunk as [ __ ] y record or money [ __ ] it depends the Gap like like the gap of money if it's like an extra 10 15 20 million but I lose a couple important fights probably not you just take like 150 million I'll be like like [ __ ] my record baby yeah it depends on the gap of money Jake Paul is not here right now just like a Mayweather Conor McGregor you taking that fight ver Jake yeah no he's my buddy I could I mean I don't I don't even no I no funny no there's you know what's funny is always in my Snapchat story once once a day pretty much someone says we knock out Jake Paul like there's every sing all the time for so long people just want to see me get [ __ ] is good though that's like the thing yeah but I'm sensitive it is funny though people [ __ ] love to hate confidence the craziest thing though actually about both of you like I met you very recently like I didn't realize you're as like normal as you are I don't know why I thought you violent like you guys are both like very goofy mellow and stupid and c and and awesome it's like the greatest thing ever like I couldn't believe when I met you you're like one of us like yeah I wouldn't think you're a [ __ ] yeah one of the coolest people in the world for sure yeah but not a lot of people uh can like I don't know we have like a weird it's hard toes Meat Heads I'm like this the this my dog I think it's a little bit of dark humor too it's like some [ __ ] up [ __ ] that we say off camera [ __ ] sometimes but I think it's like there's a certain yeah like that's how my whole group is back home it's like we all just we're all just kind of [ __ ] dumb I'm smart but like they're dumb well someone commented like yo Jake Paul's the dumbest genius in the world and I was just like I say that [ __ ] all the time you wed up the other day and I was like this is the most genius dumbass in the world no jokes Hey Brother chill buddy trying to get me cancelled no what how old are you 23 are you really yeah no you're not he's not is he what do you think think what did you think Oh no you're 267 27 what did you think he was I thought he was older I thought he was like 27 26 yeah a niggaer mature was that ladies you got a boo you got a girl you just be slanging she timeout right now I don't really talk about she don't time out it's a little tricky she not taking care of herself what do you guys think about Tom Brady R you watch it yeah they kept comp panning to you every 5 Seconds bro I swear there's a huge camer sitting there the whole time but it's cool to see Netflix going hard like that cuz they went hard they swing that meat around huha yeah let's pivot yeah just sorry about him I'm drunk man not yeah but but it was it was great it wasar they should have got rid of most of the football players going up there yeah there's a couple ones Ben afflac is that who that was on there that was wild that was so weird that was so weird it was cool to see how [ __ ] less sensitive people are becoming I feel like feel like it's recently like there's a big push back I think people got sick of it we went super super super PC for a long time people were like wait a second we like being able to say what we want to say I saw kill Tony say oh type of crazy [ __ ] on there that watch every [ __ ] Monday you were on kill Tony yeah how old are you actually buddy I'm a comedian Budd full time no yeah I was on that I was nervous as hell though I was like just being it's a live I do podcast once a week like me and Tim do our podcast every [ __ ] week but to be there in front of an audience live it's weird it's a different kind of well so you say Tim but let's let's talk about actually the fact that you get trained by by one of the greatest boxers of all time it's really that's something what's happened like that's crazy working with Canelo as your as your coach that's what I'm saying people don't going to be Ryan but like yeah that is true I never even thought about that for did you even know that this guy proba even know that that orange [ __ ] is nice wait will I get cancelled by the ginger community no you're black oh no my dad my dad's Ginger and I'm I'm like this [ __ ] is ginger bro he be shaving he be shaving his beard and I zoom in zoom in it's it's slightly orange so I'm a quarter ginger on South Park they made fun of Gingers and that [ __ ] made the news I [ __ ] with the ginger people but like y'all [ __ ] you like redhead girls oh yeah was Super Soaker but anyway yeah like y'all [ __ ] is orange and that's okay but back to you one of y'all that's not drunk I got a question cuz this guy clipped out a lot did Tim actually like you guys about him like saying to fight that was yeah that was real Tim always be talking [ __ ] to the like he's been doing that for so long so what happened he just talk I mean he just he Alo the knee's coming Alo you got to shoot Alo watch out for this like he's been saying that since I've been in the UFC like my debut vers terion where he was talking [ __ ] to terion too and uh he just does it every fight but this happened to just be crazy timing to like Tim you got Tim like alre you got to go and like literally he he like that's when he threw that left hand or whatever stepped into Southpaw and uh or stepped into Orthodox and got dropped it was it was funny the timing because he's like Al you got to go I don't I truly don't think that's why that's not why Alo went I bet you could I bet Alo didn't even hear that but Tim's always chirping and stuff but people on the internet are [ __ ] mad about that a lot of them actually like it I'll say majority of people are thinking that's the funniest [ __ ] ever there's a couple [ __ ] that are like you should be banned think it's a fight would you run the alra fight back or one and done never I like that why would I yeah am I supposed to top that you know what I'm saying I got love for Alo we had him on the show and he he seems like a good dude I actually don't mind Alo I does that ever happen where like you'll have a personal relationship with someone personal runin with them and it's all great but then now all of a sudden you have to fight each other I've never had I've not of running with someone that's been like uh more than like I've ran into aljo morab at the UFC I'm like hey what's up talk to him a little bit you know nothing no ill will um but I haven't had like a run with someone I actually lik them mhm and then at the fight them so you're not friends with any any other UFC fighters oh I have a there's there's a couple guys in my in my weight class that I train with at the lab that are like climbing the r uh ladders what happened with uh the 125 pounder I I don't even know his name and I'm not I'm just not like yeah what's his name I Alexander pania bro this story is actually kind of funny so 2016 I think it was it was like 3 and0 4 and0 and I was still fighting at like I fought at 125 not too long before that I fought at like 130 which is in a weight class was like so I wasn't like a 155 like I am now I was probably like 14 back then and uh Henry cejudo comes in I'm three or four and0 at the point at this point it comes in with this kid Alexander PTO just won The Ultimate Fighter I think he's got his UFC debut or it's his second UFC fight he's a couple weeks out from his fight I'm [ __ ] the night before me and Tim ripping bongs like hanging out being goofballs and [ __ ] so the next morning so we brought him in for sparring hry sudo brings in Alexander you're 4-0 he's King [ __ ] he he's just won The Ultimate Fighter and so they write the names on on the board who who you're sparring I'm like oh [ __ ] I got Alexander Pantoja versus me for one round one round he has three rounds so you write one one name then usually you you spar with one guy then they go out you spar with a fresh guy they go out spar with the fresh guy that's usually how it works so my name was just up there for one round that's it we Spar one round I didn't know anything about him cuz I I didn't really watch it like that 25 I don't really watch 25ers like that but somebody's like oh [ __ ] that's he a black belt he just won The Ultimate Fighter I was like oh [ __ ] I got to [ __ ] Focus up here first round boom Dro him with a liver kick and I wasn't going to post I record all my rounds I have so many sparring rounds like I wasn't going to post it was and for some reason I don't know why he would talk [ __ ] and bring it up cuz I literally I don't know you know know I don't know if you know how it works but you finish a guy the fight's over right no no did he um so I finished him the first round he hit him boom with the liver I posted the video yesterday and I've had it for a long time I didn't want to post it CU you don't post sparring like that but he just kept bringing it up so boom finished him first round um then uh after the first round round I go to walk out and Henry's over there crying box of Kleenex just like [ __ ] wiping his tears crying we want you for a second round so mad that this little like I was nobody just finished his dude he's in the UFC he's supposed to be the man finish him in the first round so Henry's crying saying he wants another round um so I piece him up again in the second round and I'm I'm dying at this point my lungs are burning I'm not in shape for fight I I'm nowhere near in Camp for a fight and I my lungs are hurting and uh Henry again crying blowing his nose and like I want you for a third and Benson comes in Benson Henderson absolute Legend comes in and was yelling cuz that's his it was the his gym the MMA lab we don't let people come in our gym and make us tired and blah blah blah and I'm [ __ ] just just huffing and puffing I just got done work in this dude for 10 minutes finished him in the first round did I say that liver kick um we'll put the footage I have the foot yeah it's right there insert the footage so third round come out boom piece him up again and he's so I don't know why he keeps bringing up this bringing this up in the media I think it's because people ask him but I don't know why he doesn't just say yeah yeah no no I don't want to talk about it he keeps saying like he's like oh I got in I found his range and [ __ ] I'm like bro you you stopped him in one round stopped him in round one and let him live and continue to fight for round two these delusional uh like wild people are weirdos but the reason I posted cuz he kept bringing it up exactly wait so is he the champ now at 125 yeah okay but why does he still want to talk [ __ ] to you if you got [ __ ] up that's what I'm saying I don't know either either you drop to 125 and get that no I can't drop to 125 that's too much now you're a thick [ __ ] I am a thick but yeah I SP I think it's important for up and cominging Spar uh fighters to record their rounds and watch their rounds not for that this reason you know but just to I've improve so much watching my sparring y I have thousands of rounds maybe not thousands hundreds of rounds from 10 years ago on my on my computer of uh it's like NFL team is watching footage the time [ __ ] 100% got to watch that [ __ ] that's I I have every single round recorded and and again I I don't post sparring either exactly you know put in a highlight video make a vlog boom we're sparring people but it's never like [ __ ] up your guy yeah exactly but Mike Perry honestly like what he's been doing is pretty Fu he went to Bare knuckle that [ __ ] just meant for him bare knuckle fighting it's crazy different going crazy he's doing good he's [ __ ] undefeated over there he's beating some really good guys stay over here [ __ ] [ __ ] only place that you should be getting tickets from is game time.co it's it's the only place I go it is the only place you can possibly go they have 110% price match guarantee that's what we use to get our tickets for the NBA Finals you can get $20 off your first order go to gametime.co JJ a $20 off your first order they're doing a deal specifically for y'all and you could see where your tickets are before you buy them seeing the seats they have all of the these great policies last 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platform there is Mike Paul versus Jake Tyson here's my official prediction tell us and even if even if it's against me like it's not it's not I do think you're going to beat Mike Tyson uh it's crazy that I even saying that out loud right now cuz you're fighting Mike Tyson it's [ __ ] crazy even just when we were walking down the the street today people all genders all ages knew you were fighting Mike Tyson it's such a massive fights live on Netflix which is [ __ ] crazy it's in a stadium which is [ __ ] crazy it is crazy I believe in you I see what you I see what you're doing I see you know that you believe in yourself Mike Tyson is uh hasn't fought in however long it's been so for him to just come up and get a fight be I I'm sure is going to be in as good a shape as he possibly could be in but it's just you know it's it's it's it's not his time right now I love Mike Tyson I never actually met him but I love Mike Tyson I do think Jake's gonna get the job done and I do think eight rounds eight two-minute rounds eight two-minute rounds I believe I believe you could put them away in the later rounds you know five six seven eight I do think you could put it put him down which is crazy to even [ __ ] think you rap yeah that's fire I'm just lazy and inconsistent that's not a w no that sh it is not you start using Brandon yell at him every day but cuz you can actually spit that's fire no but but people know him now from like podcasting they don't know he's a rapper and hurts his soul J sick name Lil jizz what J JZ that's good that's good you should switch your [ __ ] I switch my [ __ ] from come Master to kill Jas bro honestly though that's I think singing rapping spitting is one of the things that if I could switch talents be doing something like that that's good or twerking I ain't going to lie you shook that [ __ ] earlier I got a I got a thing on me you that [ __ ] wiggle a little bit let's let's pivot though cuz yep hit a pivot uh yeah do we have a speaker should we play Jasper's new song or something you got a new one I thought you were lazy some new [ __ ] go ahead play on your phone just put it in the speaker put it in the mic too this the [ __ ] I'm dropping when I'm Indie that sound decent I'm not rapping either I'm yapping that's not going to get you drunk yo I made this beat that's crazy I like the way you look I won't lie you got something I need you my with a fly girl like you doing with no guy a little sh don't really go outside I'm not crazy right place and right time you all smiles and pretty light brown [Music] [Music] like that better if I forget you but I just can't time saying do better and I'm sure you can find that guy that's worth all right cut it cut it cut it that's that's enough that's enough that's enough that's enough for real can't give the whole thing it's not out yet yeah hey good [ __ ] that's fire I'll be rapping though but that's some pop [ __ ] just cuz I can do it so why are you consistent cuz I'm lazy and jaded and and spoiled yeah it's unfortunate maam shout out to the homies for a lot of talented people out there that just are yeah don't smoke crack yo also there there is a parallel there don't do don't do that there's a parallel with the same thing he's talking about I think Fighters probably where it's like you could have all the talent in the world he's got that's why I get so [ __ ] mad at him it's cuz he has all the talent in the world really I get more pissed off than he gets and he could be a superstar but he just is lazy he doesn't put the work in he's not he's not strategic and it is hard when you got when you live in a crib in Puerto Rico right you got chefs and [ __ ] and you fly private with me yeah that's it that's it bro that's it you got to you got get paychecks and [ __ ] y'all got to evict me that's not a bad idea honestly I think we talked about it let's make I was I'm H we had a conversation but I just can't I can't because I love you so much I need you but then I'll probably be more like need you y yeah I guarante and then we you would still have to like fly in once a week to to do the pods and it would be resentment and then I I'll go out like and I'll try to start shooting at y'all oh my God I guarantee I would be in the position I'm in if I if I had money and like had already made it like financially had [ __ ] I wouldn't have made it that's why people think I'm crazy but CC the other side of it is like boom right so I'm from com California same hey shout out my [ __ ] yeah man I was homeless for the first half of my life mom's a drug addict dad's a gang member I've never had anything in my life right and my whole life has been music I dropped out in ninth grade I was like I'm going to make music my dad kicks me out he's like you can't live under this roof like be more like your brothers my brothers are [ __ ] star students one got a full ride scholarship loser all all type of [ __ ] nerd ass [ __ ] all those [ __ ] are fat and unemploy now one dropped out of school a full rise scholarship and is just sitting at home right so boom from having nothing to like me saying I'm going to risk everything that I have in my life to become a music artist and it works I get to a certain place and I'm like damn I did exactly I hit a ceiling right so it's like now I had to recalibrate he got a big record deal and then and then like use I crashed out and became a m addict for four four days a week for 30 like 90 days oh it's not bad but then I moved cuz my homeboy was like you need to move and I was like nah [ __ ] that I made a million I ain't going to move I'm going to maintain this lifestyle I'm a junkie but I'm rich yep I crashed out and was like yeah I need to move lost 60 lbs went to Puerto Rico locked in recalibrated and now I'm ready to be but that's that's here's the problem we run into now is that you've recalibrated and now it's still it's been 6 months the album's supposed to be 6 months ago and we're still waiting for the album that's the problem and that's what you got to work on never too late though let's start it let's get because you're vitamin deficient right yeah yeah cuz like a lot of people can't think straight when they're vitamin deficient and all that a week ago kind of elaborated on that so yeah this isn't therapy um I got shout out Suzie right right huh Susie but she's hot is she not you think my therapist you guys got the same one I could pee and vape on this podcast I got to go pee go pee I could pee yeah I mean I think we I think we end the episode because uh let's wrap it up you can get W available at Walmart anyway if you walk into Walmart whether you with your mom your daddy you by yourself you go in that [ __ ] men body care aisle you buy that and comment down below what you thought of the episode for um us being brain fried over and uh jper but Buzz also comment cuz this coming out when the product releases comment your favorite scent and sent $10,000 right no I'm send you 1,000 I ain't got 10,000 for you but I'll send you 1,000 I'll send someone 10,000 he'll send you 10,000 I'll send you a th000 and I'm going through the comments for sure anyway good luck Charlie and if you got a test soon good luck on that [ __ ] that's what we [Music] do what are those 8 O gloves I want you to know they were talking up there he ain't going easy so be ready all right legit be ready buddy I'm using these bags don't show Too Much don't show we're boxing we're boxing I don't I do that on accident sometimes just know that that might come up just keep your hands up I'm just saying I might throw that up I haven't knocked someone out in a while just cuz my last fight didn't go off it went off five rounds I've been like craving just putting someone's lights out lately it's weird versus your boy better Derek I I hope Sean isn't nice and just [ __ ] him up that's your that's your trainee [ __ ] D all righty folks welcome to your main event of the evening starting out first in the loser corner you have better day with a record of no wins no losses I beat ste's [ __ ] out no anything he is 5'7 120 lbs lost in the mile to better JoJo but he's still delusional in his fighting career and to my left in the winning Corner sponsored by W sugar sha Ali The Undefeated UFC champion of the world it's time to fight bring it to the center we already spoke about the rules in the locker room beforehand give me your glove give me your hand touch gloves I want a clean fair fight no no hits below the waist back to your Corners time you ready judge you ready and fight [Music] [Applause] I'm out of balance or something oh do Dodge that [ __ ] hold on hold on hold on hold [ __ ] come on come on just oh my God one back of the head no no no back of the head four ref didn't see it five six me in the eyes Walk This Way Walk This Way for me he's running Walk This Way for me my car run all right and we're in in that right that's called all right time time time one two that was a that was a slip four up six bro Rizo what the [ __ ] are you doing all right get up SLP all right come on time in come on got come on got you [ __ ] black I'm going to I need to work I need to see some work black UT D somebody said 10 seconds like 8 seconds ago all right great back to your corner back to your corner back to your corner stay in there you're doing good right now this feel good I feel good do you see that one I landed clean on his face I think we all terrible shut the [ __ ] up for once in your [ __ ] life shut the [ __ ] up Sean's doing half punches on him shut up I'll act like uh no don't act like bro I'm just I'm putting in work all right how this how you when you [ __ ] beat the old wash UFC fighters everybody comments you're fighting old was UFC fighters what do you think 10s I think they're right in in round two round two round two oh got him [ __ ] oh [Music] [ __ ] hey put that hey that that's a that's going to be a 10 count can't get me by the that's going to be a 10 count that's going to be a 10 count next time back in the just there going to be a 10 count next time get in there give me real quick get him with some you thank you perfect okay BL I'm going to need to see some more one two back to your corner white Corner neutral Corner 5 6 seven eight n look at me thank you bro come on you want to fight do you want to fight when I do you want to fight yes yeah wait wait time back in wake up time time time time time I promise okay it's to the floor the rules of transfer to MMA tap tap tap he's St he's T he's ta all right I block out all right you're good to go wait wait the fight was over get the [ __ ] out of the ring oh it's over it's over it's over it's over go you got it's over it's over it's over [Music]	of people up canny grapple didn't have to Grapple cuz he couldn't take me down yeah Alo couldn't take you down I think that was the biggest thing where they were like yo that's his weakness like yeah wrestle him down and then he just proved everyone wrong that's what's so interesting about this morab fight is he's supposedly well he is he's [ __ ] good at wrestling he's really really good at wrestling he's boring as [ __ ] and no one will there won't be one comment saying yeah right he's actually kind of fun not one person I'm com won I'm com you can I ask you something would you put yourself in your own top five Strikers in the UFC oh I'm yeah yo easily who's your Mount Rushmore strikker well I I mean I would unbiasedly I would put him as number one because adna is in like top three but he also like got beat by put that [ __ ] down boy he did uh bro I'm up there I'm up there Max is really good Max super his striking that's a good top five there that's four me Max Elia adaga uh I'm sure I'm missing some your with a one would it be that's that's a minus one Mount rmore is four yeah but I only got four but if you throw the five in it's a plus one isn't there only four yeah but but you ready to throw	8	6	4	of people up canny grapple didn't 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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXPZ1KzdpsY	4,103	mXPZ1KzdpsY	2024-06-20 00:00:00	well well well ladies and gentlemen do we have a special episode for you today none other than sugar Shan om Ali the current UFC bantamweight champion a legend in his own right this episode was off the cusp we were a little turned up Jasper was really really drunk so we weren't really prepared for this at all the conversations definitely got wild and obviously as you guys have seen over maybe the past week or so we launched a new company called w am men's carine in Walmart this company is so near and dear to my heart and I partnered with Shawn to bring this Vision to life amongst other celebrities artists and athletes that we are announcing over the next couple of weeks here get your w at Walmart it is very very very very very good stuff and yes you heard the news I am fighting Mike Perry on July 20th it is going down I'm still fighting Mike Tyson November 15th that is happening but I'm staying active knocking out Mike Perry on July 20th and I'm excited for y'all to listen to this episode and he the vision of w how it all came together and how Shawn got involved and then everything to do with Shawn's career this podcast has been a long time coming but prepare yourself for some idiocracy per usual uh this is [ __ ] with Jake Paul we have a secret handshake check it out AC let me get that stop playing mean yeah we created that because we actually have so many things to get into here this has been a long time coming Jasper did bring up something and the reason W was created was because the other products in the category had harmful dyes parabens sulfates hormone disruptors and so we wanted to create the better for you vitamin infused product and and Sean's a co-owner just signed today yesterday for the show but we we'll get into all of that we we've been you know bringing sea on for like we've been talking for like a month and a half yes sir yes sir um it is currently May we've been doing a lot of shoots this podcast will probably come out at post W launch you can get I'm so drunk I'm sorry y'all you can get it in uh Walmart every Walmart you in Paca Walmart get it in you in Pensacola it's in Walmart in Kentucky Walmart Walmart so basically uh we we brought in the greatest people in the world to help build W and Sean is one of those people but dialing everything back we will get into the company the body washes how this all came about but uh we've been wanting to do this podcast and thanks for joining us BR hey guys hey thanks for joining us right did you uh yeah I did you sh for an hour bro did you did you do do we know do we set the stage of the day and the fact that Jasper's slash right now okay cool y drunk is a [ __ ] y like double drunk yep yep yep you drunk yeah all that so um but just winding everything back uh I think we've been friends for a long time in fact you were the first guest on this show oh [ __ ] crazy Zoom crazy that's right that's right that's right the first ever episode you zoomed in and that's crazy we're thankful we're thankful for our friendship and it's pretty cool that now we're here again today uh getting less views than before and that's fire that's it congratulations less views we're not we're not it was it was a joke it was a joke if you watching this please like and comment cuz we falling off right now but man by the time this comes out you're going to be getting ready for me RAB how do you say his name I don't remember morab is iTab or or I don't know me that's got to be it me but you got to say it with the emphasis look meab mirab meab meab there you go there you go so yeah I should be getting ready hopefully I ain't got nothing scheduled hopefully uh you know Uncle Dana will call me say hey buddy you want to fight in in here and there and there and then I'm d b boom and that that's how that works what's up with everybody on your body though everybody talking [ __ ] even people youat I wanted to bring up yeah and he's like saying like he's trying to post about you even yesterday it is weird but when you concuss someone you know what I just say they don't think as well as they used to so I think he's still concussed and he's a little confused because he's talking [ __ ] still he not in his right mind because I can just throw up another post go because it's a throwback Thursday it's a throwback Friday do you think do you think people don't respect you enough cuz I I see that as your friend an unbiased like they just see social media and podcasts and the the hair and stuff like that and then they just sh week but I [ __ ] with you I appr that um I don't think it is well you can't you know I think it's fine I think you're jealous I ain't going to lie I got some inches under here let's smell that hair you can smell my [ __ ] must who I do think I feel a little bit disrespected as the champ but I think that last fight against Che kind of you know shut a little bit of people up canny go five rounds Cheeto beat me before the Alo fight um shut a lot of people up canny grapple didn't have to Grapple cuz he couldn't take me down yeah Alo couldn't take you down I think that was the biggest thing where they were like yo that's his weakness like yeah wrestle him down and then he just proved everyone wrong that's what's so interesting about this morab fight is he's supposedly well he is he's [ __ ] good at wrestling he's really really good at wrestling he's boring as [ __ ] and no one will there won't be one comment saying yeah right he's actually kind of fun not one person I'm com won I'm com you can I ask you something would you put yourself in your own top five Strikers in the UFC oh I'm yeah yo easily who's your Mount Rushmore strikker well I I mean I would unbiasedly I would put him as number one because adna is in like top three but he also like got beat by put that [ __ ] down boy he did uh bro I'm up there I'm up there Max is really good Max super his striking that's a good top five there that's four me Max Elia adaga uh I'm sure I'm missing some your with a one would it be that's that's a minus one Mount rmore is four yeah but I only got four but if you throw the five in it's a plus one isn't there only four yeah but but you ready to throw the five up I'm four all right that's my more but yeah once again uh this is a [ __ ] ass podcast so we apologize hey but something something you just touched on you talked about Fighters being fun and interesting how much and you're you're a superstar how much of you being a superstar how much of any fighter being a superstar comes down to them being fun and interesting as you are and how much of it comes down to their actual fighting good question uh well who's a super who who obviously Connor comes to mind I think he's he's a character he's fun he's interesting who else comes to mind is like a superstar I would say Izzy gives that off I think he's an interesting guy other than that there's not like a ton of fun like Ryan Garcia is doing a really good job right now of being [ __ ] interesting being a character uh I think that's fentel I think it's drugs as well I wouldn't deny that but he's still making people interested in Ryan versus Devon Haney was an interesting fight not because Devon Haney that dude's boring as [ __ ] you think he did them roids no I don't think Ryan did I think Devon needs to take that L he being a [ __ ] about I think the craziest [ __ ] you said to me and like I don't even know if we want to put this in there or bring it up but we we can always remove it but uh because of your your situation with the ostarine and you said to me like and it I like fully felt your energy you're like I swear on my daughter's life I never did that and you got popped for it yeah same thing happened uh to Ryan right now he popped for aost the low super low level a some [ __ ] like a trillionth of a gr the same thing happened to me uh so when that came out with Ryan like I truly truly didn't believe he took anything because it was the same [ __ ] and it happens to a lot of [ __ ] ostarine happens to how does that happen it's called the tainted supplement so if you're taking anything that has protein in it that's not third party tested uh could not just protein any kind of supplement that's not third party tested it's either NSF or there's a bunch of different third party tests but if you're not if you're taking something that doesn't have that there's chances there could be something in it but austram people pop for that all the time my case was not that big of a deal cuz I wasn't as huge of a star as I am now but it still was like a big deal because of my name the reason it's going so crazy right now is because Ryan G is a superstar so people are freaking out but it happens to a lot of athletes I just before we move past it I just on that Superstar topic how is that is that Superstar factor that that someone like you has someone like Ryan has someone like Connor has is it something you're born with or is it is it a practice is it something you can learn and do you sit back and like think like oh how can I go viral today how can I I think it's both I think you have to want to be a superstar there's some guys in the UFC like I want to make more money I want this I want that but they don't really want to be a superstar you you got to want it you got to you got to have some kind of vision a long time before well and and also like who you are as a person you have to have that like Fire Within still though like before you got into want famous I want to be in the NFL I want to be NBA I wanted to be a [ __ ] athlete when I was young was instilled I was just for whatever reason I wanted to make it when I was young I'm from H in Montana like small ass can I ask you something what's your opinion on like the take b nickel takes like where he's like super friendly and humble and like I think he's a sweet ass [ __ ] they love him but like bro that [ __ ] pisses me off I think that [ __ ] is cool too n like you're a hum like [ __ ] talk your [ __ ] you're what 670 like bro talk your [ __ ] like it it kind of bores me no I get yeah I mean that's that's some people's opinion is like he's too nice too humble too that but he's being himself um but he's also super young in the sport I think he and he's still pretty what is he 28 you're in a sport of War if I was playing like [ __ ] Cricket I would be like yeah like but that's that's the thing is for for for a character like him what it seems like is that's what he's in is the sport of war and that's it he's not in the sport of entertainment he's a nice ass sweetheart get there is some people that that understand both sides of things but I also have respect for and I see when someone's that's strictly in the sport of if I play chess with you I'm going to be like good game and I'm going to shake your hand I talk [ __ ] be F ass to a PO it I'm going to be like [ __ ] you you need to get better at whatever you're doing dial dialing it back a little bit um to the aost stream thing I think it's like what do you think about Conor tweeting still at like 3:00 a.m. like coked out he he he he sent shots at me and Ryan talking [ __ ] but it's it's crazy coming from Connor who literally got out of the usada pool to do steroid like legit steroids so it's kind of wild and I was the biggest Connor fan for a long time in the last couple weeks ever since he sent that wasn't even a couple weeks ago probably a week ago I've been trying to hate him I've been trying to be like [ __ ] you Connor but I can't I love Connor I it's like I am excited for his fight coming up I'm excited I want you know I'm all about it what's the fight is it Chandler Chandler in June it's going to be big they just been trying to do it for a long time so I didn't know if it still still I think officially I think it's I think I think the craziest part about it is what like eight weeks before a fight that he's still like coked and drunk out of his mind who you got though who that's a good it is crazy that he still like he tweeted that deleted like 20 minutes later he was definitely [ __ ] up on well that's what I was going to say we can't just Grace past that do you is that that's a that's a bold thing to say do you you know he's on coke is that a is that are you [ __ ] gills I don't know anything but I know for certain that he's brother like look at the time of the tweets and look at what he's saying like also and he's like known for this simar tweets yeah yeah I don't know just manic brother I think he is I do think Ryan is I think he when he said he was playing into it a little bit I I think he's kind of using that I think he's [ __ ] crazy what what what would happen if you and Ryan boxed that's I mean there's only one way to find out he has a lot better chances of beating me in a boxing match than he does in a real fight keep up I do I I [ __ ] I truly believe in myself that's how I got to the [ __ ] position I'm in right now I can box I can throw hands um I don't think it'd be easy by any means I do think it's possible I beat him I'm not saying my my odds are great but I do believe I could beat Ryan Bo if there was anybody you could box for your first boxing match debut who are you Bo give an easy fight give me Deon Haney you give [Laughter] me honest answer uh I mean if we're I I would say Floyd if I Pi if I could sit here and pick who I box first boxing fight I pick Floyd because it would be the biggest most crazy most legendary fight maybe not most legendary some people for me okay but outside of that on a skill based level oh I I could hang with some good [ __ ] pro boxers I'm undefeated in boxing you think you think if you and uh ilot boxed that' be ilot is very very [ __ ] skilled boxing that's an interesting question so who what what professional boxer would you equate your PA Mike Tyson I know of Devon Haney now because Ryan Garcia beat him uh dvon Davis he's really short I know him um maybe smacking [ __ ] up though he does he that little guy he can't he can't ride roll coasters though that is true so there's a there's a tradeoff like Cruz fight he was riding a roller coaster no like I'm talking about like at the fair oh no you know like there there's a trade-off in life you know where things get weird it's like it's like yo he's really good but you can't even just hit Dante fan brother can't even ride the top not a Dante fan that's not what I'm wait what did what did I say to say I'm not a you didn't say I mean I don't think he knows that it's a short joke I don't think he picked up on you want me tell him I was joking shut the [ __ ] up I get I say that was a joke I'm what are you trying to say I'm but are you trying to insinuate that I'm short no honestly you're probably what five you're 5'9 you're like 5' seven and a half stop doing stop doing it stop doing that cuz [ __ ] is going to see this and be like he's 5'6 actually if you watching this and you think I'm 5'6 and you want to try me in person please any [ __ ] who see me out I'm punching your [ __ ] out I'm like 5'9 on a good day when when I'm lying to women I'm 5'10 for sure who's gonna ID me I'm wearing forces I'm a [ __ ] liar all right so now for the truth jakee he's like what like he's 5 No but don't do that bro all right all right we won't we'll cut that out like yeah n don't cut it out n don't see me and see these but you know dvon is 5'5 legit that's cool bro I know but is that not short just be honest is that five five short for a grown man for a grown man is that short you can be a fan I'm not I'm a fan of javante and he's five that's a little little bro all right the joke went over his head anyways so the short joke [ __ ] is trying to play me like I'm short no no no we're we're not we're not you're [ __ ] tall all right let's pivot yeah so um SI yeah sh shout out to the shout out to the pivot but but yeah like Jasper's a little riled up things are on edge he's a little he's a little turned up it's been a long day a long two days we've been shooting uh because we have a new [ __ ] company did we say we talk about that yet I we said in the beginning raise your arms up [ __ ] goed [ __ ] goed shout out to w a fun few days it's been a fun few days days you're going to see the content rolling out um but you speaking of but Ruby Rose did a good job oh my God I wanted to bite that M listen anyway if you're near wmart if you're watching this right now I don't give a [ __ ] what you're doing you could be taking care of your kid you could be taking care of your elderly parents [ __ ] them go to Walmart June 1st Nationwide I don't care if you in Pensacola you in Massachusetts all in places that sound [ __ ] stupid there's a Walmart there and you go there it's a better for you product vitamin ifuse number [ __ ] one yeah no basically I I think dialing back like the business story of it because you're also like a very smart businessman intellectual doing everything you do in and outside of the Ring which a lot of people don't have which contributes to you being uh the biggest in my opinion the biggest UFC star um but yeah we we basically I guess this is the podcast where we tell people where W came from but um we started building this company like a year and a half ago and really saw how all these other companies like as we move into better for you products and less harmful products we saw how the leaders in the space didn't have the best formulas didn't have the best manufacturing had all of these harmful substances in it and we're also brands from when I was like 9 years old I don't want to list names but they're still like having all the Shelf space in stores and I was just like this is wild like this is boring this is lame the the the we need something new we need something that's better uh males have vitamin uh deficiencies like crazy especially with magnesium Jasper just can't get enough of it uh especially with magnesium um and biotin is in the body wash uh vitamin E one two of the best vitamins for your skin and hair um but as The Story Goes long story short we we come up with this brand that represents so many things um but I think winning in everyday life whether you're the valedictorian whether you are the high school jock whether you're philanthropist now you have a product that you can embody and wear every single day that's increasing your vitamin intake that is less harmful to you that's where the idea came from and just being the winning formula in category uh went to Walmart pitched them the whole idea they [ __ ] loved it helped us build the brand even and come up with the scent profiles and all the things that are the the most popular um and this has been something I've wanted to do for so long we had to bring in the best people to be a part of it the winners in their category and that's number one Numero Uno sha Ali here um and he instantly saw the vision and already in the past couple of days it's been like super fun filming all the content behind yeah I was pumped when you [ __ ] called me appreciate you thinking of me and uh excited to help grow this business [ __ ] it's needed it's needed we're going to take over the whole bathroom you know tooed if you [ __ ] with the dogs and cows and chickens dog in you I know what I got that dog in me and I use it so be dog free baby am I missing anything with that no I think that was great the one the one thing I would touch on and you did in a way but it's it is body wash it is body spray it is deodorant but it also is there's an ethos that stands behind this brand which is the ethos that you stand for and it's the ethos that you stand for and the ethos that you stand for and the one that I stand for if I say ethos again I'm GNA start stumbling over my words but it's it's it's like you said it it doesn't the winners in life aren't just you you're on a big stage in life you're you're you're crushing it in every aspect financially you're a star you're leading your sport that's awesome on every [ __ ] level it's it's an encouragement to to young men all around the world to [ __ ] get up off their ass and get sh it don't matter if you score high on a test you whatever the [ __ ] it is that you do well maybe not so it matters what the [ __ ] you do but it also doesn't matter what the [ __ ] you do anybody is a winner as long as you put in the work and you have the will to win and I love it I I would say that's wrong I would say that not anybody is a winner and I think that's something that the brand also stands for like you really got to win you got to as you have the will to win no I'm just saying I think that's an important point cuz we live in a world today where a lot of people think everybody can be a winner that's not true if you Los you might be a loser and if you're a loser the good news is there's a hidden l in the logo actually we'll trace it for you with our graphic design team there's a hidden l in the logo because and I I I wanted to make sure that was was a thing because the biggest loss of my life turned out to be the biggest W in my life and I always had the saying like two L's make a w and when I lost to Tommy Fury it was embarrassing all these things but I realized I wasn't focused I wasn't as locked in as I could be the team around me from a boxing standpoint wasn't good I was having personal issues with relationships and all of these things that I had to shed and grow from and I grew into this new and completely different person but I wouldn't have done that if I didn't lose on the biggest stage possible and I think that was part of the ethos ethos ethos ethos of the brand was to encourage people that in their lowest moments to turn those into into their biggest W's eventually when Jake just said that the biggest loss of his life ended up being the biggest W of his life you said same yeah yeah same what what was that story for supposedly lost for lost to Cheeto back in 2020 August it it was I mean it sucked at the time but I it didn't suck too bad because I was like okay I didn't lose because I you know and it was different I wasn't I mean I was focused everything went good training camp everything was good but I was like that sucks I'm goingon to get that back someday when the time is right and then my last fight two two months ago in Miami headline I'm the champ defending my belt against that same guy how rewarding was that three and a half years later August three and a half years later boom beat his ass as a fan of yours it made it so sweet because of all the doubters that constantly like put you down and didn't believe in you and said he was going to destroy you and then you he literally like you embarrass him that was a performance of a life you embarrassed the [ __ ] out of him and I think that's literally a prime example of turning l l into into a w and I really that's what that's where the hidden l in the brand in the logo is um and representing that every single day when you see these products in your bathroom and when we say we have a saying it's not just a product it's a lifestyle absolutely trademarked Incorporated All Rights Reserved 2024 brother uh but but yeah man it's it's an honor to have you a part of this and uh we we really made what we think are the best products on the market from the body wash being exfoliating vitamin infused to the body spray what we found out is a lot of these fragrances like you get like these high-end designer brands that have like $500 colognes turns out it only cost them a dollar to make that and they're literally making like $499 on top of that so we had a fine fragrance house is what these places are called and we got the super expensive scents and gave it to people to what they're worth like we're not trying to these products are super super affordable and I think it's so funny because that's the world we live in where like you just label something and get like a European girl to go this is one of the lower priced men's care products on the market yeah if I'm not mistaken and it's it's the $500 fragrance in the affordable bottle because we want everyone we've been using a body wash in the past two days since we got the samples after the shoot and I personally want to say I got the in there you could bleep it out whatever you want to do W's winning n b genuinely that's that's the saying is the it's winning formula cuz it really is like it really is if if we're going to call our company [ __ ] W it has to be the best we the winners winning product indeed indeed winning customers all that type of [ __ ] indeed better Derek today he's just got a punch I'm not Li I talked to him before he left he wants to punch you up bro he's got a punchable face I like him though it's weird it's like God I like that guy but I want [ __ ] KO pick him up and like it's okay boom one more to the liing me earlier and I'm just letting you know don't shoot the messenger on God he said he wants to get in the ring with you I can call him really he oh yeah he he you want to call him yeah where is he at is wait uh no call no call he's coming up oh um he's talking smack he said he actually wants a spar I swear to God he said he wants to get percentage should I go you guys I literally out let that's crazy timeing saying talk [ __ ] to my face if you're going to talk [ __ ] that's crazy timing what were you saying they were telling me you want to get in the ring and Spar bit or they didn't say Spar they said fight yeah I'm down to do either but uh yeah no I'm just sick of the [ __ ] [ __ ] you've been saying on your podcast uh you called me you made fun of my weight and you called me gay I did not no I well okay okay you said that he wouldn't ever say that what you got to say what your chest that's what I just [ __ ] said bro I he was like oh if I if stand on it you talking to him you talking to him you ain't talking to me my assistant Sono would would piece you he's never boxed a day he never I'm here to fight your video I'm here to fight you what did I what was the first thing I said to you when when I saw you what was the first thing I said to you that we could fight no I said you look thick wait but when we were talking earlier weren't you saying he's a [ __ ] and you wanted to get a ring with him and all type [ __ ] what I'm saying right now say it then I just said the [ __ ] ring so we can after this we have a ring 2 feet away and he's a [ __ ] and whatever else you was saying to me yeah he's [ __ ] what about my hair say something about my hair I I already said that at the W shoot that you look like you haven't showered in [ __ ] a week okay all right d hey buddy hey hey what's your long-term play not no but see you guys you guys are making me seem crazy you're out of your mind he Derek Dereck go warm up hit the hit the heavy back H the warm up is almost listen legendary as send location dble PIV go warm up hey hey double pivot sit sit I'm not [ __ ] no I I'll sit and talk but I'm not [ __ ] no sit on the floor walk you want to take my seat hey how much how much of what's going on ch ch how much of what's going on is is a character versus like actual delusion how much is a character yeah decent uh I would say there are times where I know what I have to do for my boxing career to like like we all why is he laughing cuz you said career I beat your [ __ ] boy your [ __ ] [ __ ] bro you know what I I recall you did beat I recall calling steiny saying what the [ __ ] was that buddy I love steiny but I do remember watching that and thinking I wasn't proud of that I was not proud of that from steiny and I wish I wish he would come to the gym I wish he'd get in there I wish he'd train a little bit and I wish he would have a rematch but that's on him I've been trying to get the rematch but he's been ding me do you think Derek won he said I won I thought I thought he won I'd have to rewatch but I do think I come on baby the comments have [ __ ] dragged me for months after that [ __ ] 99% of the comments say I lost so please say it one more time Sean no I said it what I said it's like therapy or something no but to answer your question uh we all know uh uh as Fighters there's a side of promotion stop [ __ ] first of all Gus shut the [ __ ] up our our audio guys uh like can't stop laughing is that the facial his facial hair or is what he's saying bro that's bold of you to talk facial hair bro that's bold of you to I'm not Li you look dirty you look like Jeffrey done training right Jesus I train every day but anyway we know like there's two sides of of promotion as well as the actual athletic competition that is Combat Sports so there are times where I might play up a little bit like hey promoting but let him go let him go all right if you if all if you think I'm all promoting that I'll see you in the [ __ ] ring and I'll knock both you either of you out well um well Jake's a [ __ ] fat [ __ ] right now he weighs like 240 so I got I goty I gotta pick my words wisely like he's Jake's 240 I I know I know but like I'm not going to sit here and pick a fight against somebody that's 240 when I'm se's my weight class when I stopped you in one round like just like but when I was getting started out of come this is where I'm at since then I told him he could have somebody tag team I'm down I'm down to fight anybody in this [ __ ] room not one person in this room I'm the best part about this is like uh right after this we I think you're you're down to do like one round or three minutes right I mean I'd prefer 12 but we okay yeah 12 I mean that my biggest advantage in the ring ring is my cardio I do 12 12 okay so no I have a genuine question so five round I'm not I'm not one have I ever said I'm a UFC fighter no I'm just say we can box I'm just saying that's I'm used to five you want to do three we could do that aren't you trying to be a boxer with your [ __ ] Ryan Garcia call he would knock knock your [ __ ] ass out so quickly it wouldn't be close I'm one and0 pro boxing what are you actually I saw that video I saw video I'm also want to know thank you officially hey they count that's real commiss but uh I didn't mean I didn't mean to take I didn't mean to take over the pot I just wanted to a couple you definitely didn't yeah okay I try I'm trying to help you no we love you go warm up yeah yeah go warm up the bags don't warm up too much though don't get tired how much do you wa right now without Timberlands and jean shorts on high 120 low 13 no without lying though okay that [ __ ] is you think you got you got him one round I think I could beat him I think I can beat him I I think I could handicap myself to three just put on one glove I could do that what do you think actually happens now when you go downstairs and he gets in that ring like what's his plan that's what I don't get about him but that's why it's that's do me a favor that's why he's Cloud it up because love [ __ ] up [ __ ] he's going he's going to try to Yap he's going to try to talk please just go 100% yeah no actually actually please go 100% if he signs a consent form we'll have him no we've already got like multiple consent forms for better media with like death wavers [ __ ] no no no but he needs it he needs that I'll go like 40 no go like 75 Sean I'm I'm going to be honest bro don't even go 20% he's the nice [ __ ] bro don't do that bro you want him to go 100% no no to be honest but just like work with him and then just like maybe just just like a really good punching and then he'll give up 75% uh I'm nervous man I'm shaking for Derek yeah yeah that's good I understand that there a couple flinches if you Flinch hard enough the the wind coming off you will put him down let him walk you down and bait him boom sleeping what's your next upcoming fight a maraba jaaba and when is that uh not nothing yet I'm hoping for September maybe October maybe November maybe December I'm F ready to go baby what if it was next month I wouldn't be ready to go I like I like 10 to 12 weeks 10 to 12 he likes eight I mean I I normally do like 10 yeah just like but I've been super the first few weeks are [ __ ] pre-amps this Camp I'm channeling my Ryan Garcia would you ever do a Ryan Garcia regiment during Camp drink and smoke every night you do a little I I probably yeah I'm not actually doing that for the people out there he's locked in clocked in locked in locked in ready to go yeah May 20th we start but by the time the people see this it'll be uh June or something like that that is crazy you're fighting Mike that you fought Ben asran wrestler good good [ __ ] UFC was really good UF bit Tyron Woodley twice Anderson Silva knockout of the year with Nate Robinson can't forget about deji deji the the the goat do we say Gibb or is that like that's just crazy resume like literally [ __ ] C by way thank you Gib cuz we had a really good party after he knocked you the [ __ ] out who W we're skipping two professional boxers this always no no the recent ones this always happens I'm trying to just think cuz two cuz this is what everybody asked for this is what everybody asked for who who are the two professional boxers you fighted you got to name them Andre August and Ryan Borland go okay people don't people are like fight a pro boxer and then I do and then they're like that was boring as a man of combat he what were 10 and one nine and one nine and one what is your take on his [ __ ] all of his fights and who he's fighting in the competition dude I've been excited as [ __ ] since I started I remember you I remember the first time I watched was the Nate Robinson I watched that one at home and then uh I don't remember what it was after that but I remember watching Ben Asam in Atlanta I think that was the first time we actually met was right after the fight I think we hugged I was like y I picked you up you carried me back to the locker room that it was love at first sight that was crazy actually yeah actually I [ __ ] with him we became best friends like a couple days later you going to leave me hanging no no I would it's my eyebrow but uh yeah no I think he's obviously super skilled I think it's and I I it's inspired me even in the position I'm at UFC World Champ sexy you know what I mean like tall dark handsome TR inspired me just business the business uh side of things that you've done I've always thought putting on massive fight that's why I'm such a huge Conor fan cuz the pay-per-views he's done is so [ __ ] he's been fighting for four years and [ __ ] that he's been doing the massive fights the fights I get excited for there's a few UFC fights the high the big big fights that I get excited for but every time you fought even when uh Logan fought Floyd I was [ __ ] like excited like all fight week so i' I've been inspired from what you've done from a business side from the boxing side they even just start so not late but for a boxer but these boxers start when they're [ __ ] three four years old like Ryan and tank like they're young buck the Tik Tac I sent you of Devon Haney's debut fight yeah it's wild he was fighting a five foot Mexican in a in a bar was it Dante bro if I show you this [ __ ] oh no I did see that I did see that I did see that when you started even seeing that first video fighting Anderson Silva six fights in bro like do you know how insane that is he's one of the greatest correct me if I'm wrong UFC Strikers in history yeah 100% so does that make me one of the greatest UFC Strikers and one of the greatest wrestlers cuz wood but Ben ask was but Nate Diaz is ducking me in MMA oh am crazy I am weak that's a sick fight MMA I I wish it was that would happened right after the boxing same he's actually ducking it which is why it's crazy because he's not he's not in UFC no but we we upped it to 15 million damn that's crazy though that would be a I like Nate Diaz but that would be such a fun buildup he actually doesn't want to do it all Sean how do you genuinely Jake's not here it's me and you in a room actually how do you see that fight going for Jake what MMA him you're not here J for Nate in MMA keep it a bean God it's it's so hard to you're a big [ __ ] right now on what weight would it be5 185 I don't hate I don't I it's not a it's a winable fight for you I really do think that but Nate is so [ __ ] you would have to do what I did against aljo and morab do not let that [ __ ] grab you not that you can't wrestle cuz I know you can wrestle but once he starts grabbing you and doing Jiu-Jitsu if he gets on top his little he likes his little trips it would be hard for you to win I feel like if he if he started grappling just pure Jiu-Jitsu if it let's be real if it goes to the floor is he [ __ ] if he's on his back Nate's not like a super strong guy so if you learn how to like I mean I'm sure you know how to get up to a single legegg stuff like that but then you start getting your neck grabbed I don't know how much Jiu-Jitsu you know I mean Nate's a [ __ ] high Lev black belt um if you could keep it standing 100% there's winnable ways there if he if he went to the ground feel like he might be able to grab your neck no that that's exactly how I feel about it if I don't get guillotined yeah then I win the fight because even if he was on top take your back but even if he was on top of me I would just throw him off of me cuz he's also the weakest puncher I've ever fought like when he was hitting me I was I almost like started laughing I'm I'm not even saying this to talk [ __ ] out of everyone I've sparred in my whole entire life and everyone I fought his punches are even me we I don't think you ever landed a punch on me is that true well that's not true so I don't anyone no I'm literally not even talking [ __ ] which is why I think it's funny that he dropped Connor and [ __ ] cuz it's just like how Conor with like to the ground yeah like with a straight left hand yeah which is crazy like I I'm not just talking [ __ ] when I say that and I've told you I've literally told you this you told me this after the fight yeah I was like he is the weakest puncher I've ever fought in my life who's who's the weakest puncher you've ever you've ever come to face um there I mean there's been so many fights where I later didn't even get hit um uh does that like make you jaded at all when you get into a fight and you don't really get love that [ __ ] I prefer not to get hit at all but like if I was you and I wasn't get hit at all I'd probably work less no no no no I I know I don't get hit because I work that hard so if I didn't work hard I know I'd probably get hit I'm just a lazy [ __ ] so so here you are on top of the world we're launching [ __ ] W going to be a billion dollar business [ __ ] you I always forget uh UFC champ accomplishing all your goals what do you want next uh what are what is the threeyear fiveyear for Sean I I truly do want to get a boxing fight I'm not I'm not super set on that to where like I'm like going to be [ __ ] if it doesn't happen I do think it'll be interesting especially if I go out there knock morab out Ryan does his thing I think there's a [ __ ] sweet fight there if it doesn't happen not that worried about it want to go out there beat morab I'd like to you know if Max Max and Elia fight I would like to fight go move up to 45 fight the winner of that um you know maybe have three to five maybe have a few more kids definitely want another little baby I love kids my fite pump him out shout out to Danny who's your top pick in a boxing fight though if you if you could choose your Ryan now was like the I mean what he after dvon Beat Ryan I was like javante then Ryan goes out there does his thing really though I think Dante do you is that is that not a big [ __ ] leap Ryan like you said before he's been doing this his whole life one thing that's been proven is that the crossover it's it's not a good return Fury he did his thing okay the excep is the exception we've seen it with okay but then Anthony Joshua put his ass t was crazy super night night he was I'm I'm here for big fights like I wanted to get into the UFC and I wanted to make big fights watching Conor versus Floyd I'm like that [ __ ] happened really happened hey you versus Derek that could be as big as Connor in Floyd but no but I I think the craziest [ __ ] about Conor versus Floyd is that overall it was a W for everyone involved so there's certain fights where it just like doesn't matter what happens that's the world we live in yeah I mean UFC told me they said if the if the fight's big enough and it'll make the UFC money they'll do it what means more to you your your your record being pre or the amount of money you're making all right let me ask you something it's about to get real J's drunk Jasper's drunk as [ __ ] y record or money [ __ ] it depends the Gap like like the gap of money if it's like an extra 10 15 20 million but I lose a couple important fights probably not you just take like 150 million I'll be like like [ __ ] my record baby yeah it depends on the gap of money Jake Paul is not here right now just like a Mayweather Conor McGregor you taking that fight ver Jake yeah no he's my buddy I could I mean I don't I don't even no I no funny no there's you know what's funny is always in my Snapchat story once once a day pretty much someone says we knock out Jake Paul like there's every sing all the time for so long people just want to see me get [ __ ] is good though that's like the thing yeah but I'm sensitive it is funny though people [ __ ] love to hate confidence the craziest thing though actually about both of you like I met you very recently like I didn't realize you're as like normal as you are I don't know why I thought you violent like you guys are both like very goofy mellow and stupid and c and and awesome it's like the greatest thing ever like I couldn't believe when I met you you're like one of us like yeah I wouldn't think you're a [ __ ] yeah one of the coolest people in the world for sure yeah but not a lot of people uh can like I don't know we have like a weird it's hard toes Meat Heads I'm like this the this my dog I think it's a little bit of dark humor too it's like some [ __ ] up [ __ ] that we say off camera [ __ ] sometimes but I think it's like there's a certain yeah like that's how my whole group is back home it's like we all just we're all just kind of [ __ ] dumb I'm smart but like they're dumb well someone commented like yo Jake Paul's the dumbest genius in the world and I was just like I say that [ __ ] all the time you wed up the other day and I was like this is the most genius dumbass in the world no jokes Hey Brother chill buddy trying to get me cancelled no what how old are you 23 are you really yeah no you're not he's not is he what do you think think what did you think Oh no you're 267 27 what did you think he was I thought he was older I thought he was like 27 26 yeah a niggaer mature was that ladies you got a boo you got a girl you just be slanging she timeout right now I don't really talk about she don't time out it's a little tricky she not taking care of herself what do you guys think about Tom Brady R you watch it yeah they kept comp panning to you every 5 Seconds bro I swear there's a huge camer sitting there the whole time but it's cool to see Netflix going hard like that cuz they went hard they swing that meat around huha yeah let's pivot yeah just sorry about him I'm drunk man not yeah but but it was it was great it wasar they should have got rid of most of the football players going up there yeah there's a couple ones Ben afflac is that who that was on there that was wild that was so weird that was so weird it was cool to see how [ __ ] less sensitive people are becoming I feel like feel like it's recently like there's a big push back I think people got sick of it we went super super super PC for a long time people were like wait a second we like being able to say what we want to say I saw kill Tony say oh type of crazy [ __ ] on there that watch every [ __ ] Monday you were on kill Tony yeah how old are you actually buddy I'm a comedian Budd full time no yeah I was on that I was nervous as hell though I was like just being it's a live I do podcast once a week like me and Tim do our podcast every [ __ ] week but to be there in front of an audience live it's weird it's a different kind of well so you say Tim but let's let's talk about actually the fact that you get trained by by one of the greatest boxers of all time it's really that's something what's happened like that's crazy working with Canelo as your as your coach that's what I'm saying people don't going to be Ryan but like yeah that is true I never even thought about that for did you even know that this guy proba even know that that orange [ __ ] is nice wait will I get cancelled by the ginger community no you're black oh no my dad my dad's Ginger and I'm I'm like this [ __ ] is ginger bro he be shaving he be shaving his beard and I zoom in zoom in it's it's slightly orange so I'm a quarter ginger on South Park they made fun of Gingers and that [ __ ] made the news I [ __ ] with the ginger people but like y'all [ __ ] you like redhead girls oh yeah was Super Soaker but anyway yeah like y'all [ __ ] is orange and that's okay but back to you one of y'all that's not drunk I got a question cuz this guy clipped out a lot did Tim actually like you guys about him like saying to fight that was yeah that was real Tim always be talking [ __ ] to the like he's been doing that for so long so what happened he just talk I mean he just he Alo the knee's coming Alo you got to shoot Alo watch out for this like he's been saying that since I've been in the UFC like my debut vers terion where he was talking [ __ ] to terion too and uh he just does it every fight but this happened to just be crazy timing to like Tim you got Tim like alre you got to go and like literally he he like that's when he threw that left hand or whatever stepped into Southpaw and uh or stepped into Orthodox and got dropped it was it was funny the timing because he's like Al you got to go I don't I truly don't think that's why that's not why Alo went I bet you could I bet Alo didn't even hear that but Tim's always chirping and stuff but people on the internet are [ __ ] mad about that a lot of them actually like it I'll say majority of people are thinking that's the funniest [ __ ] ever there's a couple [ __ ] that are like you should be banned think it's a fight would you run the alra fight back or one and done never I like that why would I yeah am I supposed to top that you know what I'm saying I got love for Alo we had him on the show and he he seems like a good dude I actually don't mind Alo I does that ever happen where like you'll have a personal relationship with someone personal runin with them and it's all great but then now all of a sudden you have to fight each other I've never had I've not of running with someone that's been like uh more than like I've ran into aljo morab at the UFC I'm like hey what's up talk to him a little bit you know nothing no ill will um but I haven't had like a run with someone I actually lik them mhm and then at the fight them so you're not friends with any any other UFC fighters oh I have a there's there's a couple guys in my in my weight class that I train with at the lab that are like climbing the r uh ladders what happened with uh the 125 pounder I I don't even know his name and I'm not I'm just not like yeah what's his name I Alexander pania bro this story is actually kind of funny so 2016 I think it was it was like 3 and0 4 and0 and I was still fighting at like I fought at 125 not too long before that I fought at like 130 which is in a weight class was like so I wasn't like a 155 like I am now I was probably like 14 back then and uh Henry cejudo comes in I'm three or four and0 at the point at this point it comes in with this kid Alexander PTO just won The Ultimate Fighter I think he's got his UFC debut or it's his second UFC fight he's a couple weeks out from his fight I'm [ __ ] the night before me and Tim ripping bongs like hanging out being goofballs and [ __ ] so the next morning so we brought him in for sparring hry sudo brings in Alexander you're 4-0 he's King [ __ ] he he's just won The Ultimate Fighter and so they write the names on on the board who who you're sparring I'm like oh [ __ ] I got Alexander Pantoja versus me for one round one round he has three rounds so you write one one name then usually you you spar with one guy then they go out you spar with a fresh guy they go out spar with the fresh guy that's usually how it works so my name was just up there for one round that's it we Spar one round I didn't know anything about him cuz I I didn't really watch it like that 25 I don't really watch 25ers like that but somebody's like oh [ __ ] that's he a black belt he just won The Ultimate Fighter I was like oh [ __ ] I got to [ __ ] Focus up here first round boom Dro him with a liver kick and I wasn't going to post I record all my rounds I have so many sparring rounds like I wasn't going to post it was and for some reason I don't know why he would talk [ __ ] and bring it up cuz I literally I don't know you know know I don't know if you know how it works but you finish a guy the fight's over right no no did he um so I finished him the first round he hit him boom with the liver I posted the video yesterday and I've had it for a long time I didn't want to post it CU you don't post sparring like that but he just kept bringing it up so boom finished him first round um then uh after the first round round I go to walk out and Henry's over there crying box of Kleenex just like [ __ ] wiping his tears crying we want you for a second round so mad that this little like I was nobody just finished his dude he's in the UFC he's supposed to be the man finish him in the first round so Henry's crying saying he wants another round um so I piece him up again in the second round and I'm I'm dying at this point my lungs are burning I'm not in shape for fight I I'm nowhere near in Camp for a fight and I my lungs are hurting and uh Henry again crying blowing his nose and like I want you for a third and Benson comes in Benson Henderson absolute Legend comes in and was yelling cuz that's his it was the his gym the MMA lab we don't let people come in our gym and make us tired and blah blah blah and I'm [ __ ] just just huffing and puffing I just got done work in this dude for 10 minutes finished him in the first round did I say that liver kick um we'll put the footage I have the foot yeah it's right there insert the footage so third round come out boom piece him up again and he's so I don't know why he keeps bringing up this bringing this up in the media I think it's because people ask him but I don't know why he doesn't just say yeah yeah no no I don't want to talk about it he keeps saying like he's like oh I got in I found his range and [ __ ] I'm like bro you you stopped him in one round stopped him in round one and let him live and continue to fight for round two these delusional uh like wild people are weirdos but the reason I posted cuz he kept bringing it up exactly wait so is he the champ now at 125 yeah okay but why does he still want to talk [ __ ] to you if you got [ __ ] up that's what I'm saying I don't know either either you drop to 125 and get that no I can't drop to 125 that's too much now you're a thick [ __ ] I am a thick but yeah I SP I think it's important for up and cominging Spar uh fighters to record their rounds and watch their rounds not for that this reason you know but just to I've improve so much watching my sparring y I have thousands of rounds maybe not thousands hundreds of rounds from 10 years ago on my on my computer of uh it's like NFL team is watching footage the time [ __ ] 100% got to watch that [ __ ] that's I I have every single round recorded and and again I I don't post sparring either exactly you know put in a highlight video make a vlog boom we're sparring people but it's never like [ __ ] up your guy yeah exactly but Mike Perry honestly like what he's been doing is pretty Fu he went to Bare knuckle that [ __ ] just meant for him bare knuckle fighting it's crazy different going crazy he's doing good he's [ __ ] undefeated over there he's beating some really good guys stay over here [ __ ] [ __ ] only place that you should be getting tickets from is game time.co it's it's the only place I go it is the only place you can possibly go they have 110% price match guarantee that's what we use to get our tickets for the NBA Finals you can get $20 off your first order go to gametime.co JJ a $20 off your first order they're doing a deal specifically for y'all and you could see where your tickets are before you buy them seeing the seats they have all of the these great policies last 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platform there is Mike Paul versus Jake Tyson here's my official prediction tell us and even if even if it's against me like it's not it's not I do think you're going to beat Mike Tyson uh it's crazy that I even saying that out loud right now cuz you're fighting Mike Tyson it's [ __ ] crazy even just when we were walking down the the street today people all genders all ages knew you were fighting Mike Tyson it's such a massive fights live on Netflix which is [ __ ] crazy it's in a stadium which is [ __ ] crazy it is crazy I believe in you I see what you I see what you're doing I see you know that you believe in yourself Mike Tyson is uh hasn't fought in however long it's been so for him to just come up and get a fight be I I'm sure is going to be in as good a shape as he possibly could be in but it's just you know it's it's it's it's not his time right now I love Mike Tyson I never actually met him but I love Mike Tyson I do think Jake's gonna get the job done and I do think eight rounds eight two-minute rounds eight two-minute rounds I believe I believe you could put them away in the later rounds you know five six seven eight I do think you could put it put him down which is crazy to even [ __ ] think you rap yeah that's fire I'm just lazy and inconsistent that's not a w no that sh it is not you start using Brandon yell at him every day but cuz you can actually spit that's fire no but but people know him now from like podcasting they don't know he's a rapper and hurts his soul J sick name Lil jizz what J JZ that's good that's good you should switch your [ __ ] I switch my [ __ ] from come Master to kill Jas bro honestly though that's I think singing rapping spitting is one of the things that if I could switch talents be doing something like that that's good or twerking I ain't going to lie you shook that [ __ ] earlier I got a I got a thing on me you that [ __ ] wiggle a little bit let's let's pivot though cuz yep hit a pivot uh yeah do we have a speaker should we play Jasper's new song or something you got a new one I thought you were lazy some new [ __ ] go ahead play on your phone just put it in the speaker put it in the mic too this the [ __ ] I'm dropping when I'm Indie that sound decent I'm not rapping either I'm yapping that's not going to get you drunk yo I made this beat that's crazy I like the way you look I won't lie you got something I need you my with a fly girl like you doing with no guy a little sh don't really go outside I'm not crazy right place and right time you all smiles and pretty light brown [Music] [Music] like that better if I forget you but I just can't time saying do better and I'm sure you can find that guy that's worth all right cut it cut it cut it that's that's enough that's enough that's enough that's enough for real can't give the whole thing it's not out yet yeah hey good [ __ ] that's fire I'll be rapping though but that's some pop [ __ ] just cuz I can do it so why are you consistent cuz I'm lazy and jaded and and spoiled yeah it's unfortunate maam shout out to the homies for a lot of talented people out there that just are yeah don't smoke crack yo also there there is a parallel there don't do don't do that there's a parallel with the same thing he's talking about I think Fighters probably where it's like you could have all the talent in the world he's got that's why I get so [ __ ] mad at him it's cuz he has all the talent in the world really I get more pissed off than he gets and he could be a superstar but he just is lazy he doesn't put the work in he's not he's not strategic and it is hard when you got when you live in a crib in Puerto Rico right you got chefs and [ __ ] and you fly private with me yeah that's it that's it bro that's it you got to you got get paychecks and [ __ ] y'all got to evict me that's not a bad idea honestly I think we talked about it let's make I was I'm H we had a conversation but I just can't I can't because I love you so much I need you but then I'll probably be more like need you y yeah I guarante and then we you would still have to like fly in once a week to to do the pods and it would be resentment and then I I'll go out like and I'll try to start shooting at y'all oh my God I guarantee I would be in the position I'm in if I if I had money and like had already made it like financially had [ __ ] I wouldn't have made it that's why people think I'm crazy but CC the other side of it is like boom right so I'm from com California same hey shout out my [ __ ] yeah man I was homeless for the first half of my life mom's a drug addict dad's a gang member I've never had anything in my life right and my whole life has been music I dropped out in ninth grade I was like I'm going to make music my dad kicks me out he's like you can't live under this roof like be more like your brothers my brothers are [ __ ] star students one got a full ride scholarship loser all all type of [ __ ] nerd ass [ __ ] all those [ __ ] are fat and unemploy now one dropped out of school a full rise scholarship and is just sitting at home right so boom from having nothing to like me saying I'm going to risk everything that I have in my life to become a music artist and it works I get to a certain place and I'm like damn I did exactly I hit a ceiling right so it's like now I had to recalibrate he got a big record deal and then and then like use I crashed out and became a m addict for four four days a week for 30 like 90 days oh it's not bad but then I moved cuz my homeboy was like you need to move and I was like nah [ __ ] that I made a million I ain't going to move I'm going to maintain this lifestyle I'm a junkie but I'm rich yep I crashed out and was like yeah I need to move lost 60 lbs went to Puerto Rico locked in recalibrated and now I'm ready to be but that's that's here's the problem we run into now is that you've recalibrated and now it's still it's been 6 months the album's supposed to be 6 months ago and we're still waiting for the album that's the problem and that's what you got to work on never too late though let's start it let's get because you're vitamin deficient right yeah yeah cuz like a lot of people can't think straight when they're vitamin deficient and all that a week ago kind of elaborated on that so yeah this isn't therapy um I got shout out Suzie right right huh Susie but she's hot is she not you think my therapist you guys got the same one I could pee and vape on this podcast I got to go pee go pee I could pee yeah I mean I think we I think we end the episode because uh let's wrap it up you can get W available at Walmart anyway if you walk into Walmart whether you with your mom your daddy you by yourself you go in that [ __ ] men body care aisle you buy that and comment down below what you thought of the episode for um us being brain fried over and uh jper but Buzz also comment cuz this coming out when the product releases comment your favorite scent and sent $10,000 right no I'm send you 1,000 I ain't got 10,000 for you but I'll send you 1,000 I'll send someone 10,000 he'll send you 10,000 I'll send you a th000 and I'm going through the comments for sure anyway good luck Charlie and if you got a test soon good luck on that [ __ ] that's what we [Music] do what are those 8 O gloves I want you to know they were talking up there he ain't going easy so be ready all right legit be ready buddy I'm using these bags don't show Too Much don't show we're boxing we're boxing I don't I do that on accident sometimes just know that that might come up just keep your hands up I'm just saying I might throw that up I haven't knocked someone out in a while just cuz my last fight didn't go off it went off five rounds I've been like craving just putting someone's lights out lately it's weird versus your boy better Derek I I hope Sean isn't nice and just [ __ ] him up that's your that's your trainee [ __ ] D all righty folks welcome to your main event of the evening starting out first in the loser corner you have better day with a record of no wins no losses I beat ste's [ __ ] out no anything he is 5'7 120 lbs lost in the mile to better JoJo but he's still delusional in his fighting career and to my left in the winning Corner sponsored by W sugar sha Ali The Undefeated UFC champion of the world it's time to fight bring it to the center we already spoke about the rules in the locker room beforehand give me your glove give me your hand touch gloves I want a clean fair fight no no hits below the waist back to your Corners time you ready judge you ready and fight [Music] [Applause] I'm out of balance or something oh do Dodge that [ __ ] hold on hold on hold on hold [ __ ] come on come on just oh my God one back of the head no no no back of the head four ref didn't see it five six me in the eyes Walk This Way Walk This Way for me he's running Walk This Way for me my car run all right and we're in in that right that's called all right time time time one two that was a that was a slip four up six bro Rizo what the [ __ ] are you doing all right get up SLP all right come on time in come on got come on got you [ __ ] black I'm going to I need to work I need to see some work black UT D somebody said 10 seconds like 8 seconds ago all right great back to your corner back to your corner back to your corner stay in there you're doing good right now this feel good I feel good do you see that one I landed clean on his face I think we all terrible shut the [ __ ] up for once in your [ __ ] life shut the [ __ ] up Sean's doing half punches on him shut up I'll act like uh no don't act like bro I'm just I'm putting in work all right how this how you when you [ __ ] beat the old wash UFC fighters everybody comments you're fighting old was UFC fighters what do you think 10s I think they're right in in round two round two round two oh got him [ __ ] oh [Music] [ __ ] hey put that hey that that's a that's going to be a 10 count can't get me by the that's going to be a 10 count that's going to be a 10 count next time back in the just there going to be a 10 count next time get in there give me real quick get him with some you thank you perfect okay BL I'm going to need to see some more one two back to your corner white Corner neutral Corner 5 6 seven eight n look at me thank you bro come on you want to fight do you want to fight when I do you want to fight yes yeah wait wait time back in wake up time time time time time I promise okay it's to the floor the rules of transfer to MMA tap tap tap he's St he's T he's ta all right I block out all right you're good to go wait wait the fight was over get the [ __ ] out of the ring oh it's over it's over it's over it's over go you got it's over it's over it's over [Music]	the five up I'm four all right that's my more but yeah once again uh this is a [ __ ] ass podcast so we apologize hey but something something you just touched on you talked about Fighters being fun and interesting how much and you're you're a superstar how much of you being a superstar how much of any fighter being a superstar comes down to them being fun and interesting as you are and how much of it comes down to their actual fighting good question uh well who's a super who who obviously Connor comes to mind I think he's he's a character he's fun he's interesting who else comes to mind is like a superstar I would say Izzy gives that off I think he's an interesting guy other than that there's not like a ton of fun like Ryan Garcia is doing a really good job right now of being [ __ ] interesting being a character uh I think that's fentel I think it's drugs as well I wouldn't deny that but he's still making people interested in Ryan versus Devon Haney was an interesting fight not because Devon Haney that dude's boring as [ __ ] you think he did them roids no I don't think Ryan did I think Devon needs to take that L he being a [ __ ] about I think the craziest [ __ ] you said to me and like I don't even know if we want	6	4	2	yeah once again uh this is a ass podcast so we apologize hey but something something you just touched on you talked about Fighters being fun and interesting how much and you're you're a superstar how much of you being a superstar how much of any fighter being a superstar comes down to them being fun and interesting as you are and how much of it comes down to their actual fighting	good question uh well who's a super who who obviously Connor comes to mind I think he's he's a character he's fun he's interesting who else comes to mind is like a superstar I would say Izzy gives that off I think he's an interesting guy other than that there's not like a ton of fun like Ryan Garcia is doing a really good job right now of being interesting being a character uh I think that's fentel I think it's drugs as well I wouldn't deny that but he's still making people interested in Ryan versus Devon Haney was an interesting fight not because Devon Haney that dude's boring as hell you think he did them roids no I don't think Ryan did I think Devon needs to take that L he being a dick about I think the craziest thing you said to me and like I don't even know if we want	3,2,5	5,4,7	3	2	5	5	4	7
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXPZ1KzdpsY	4,103	mXPZ1KzdpsY	2024-06-20 00:00:00	well well well ladies and gentlemen do we have a special episode for you today none other than sugar Shan om Ali the current UFC bantamweight champion a legend in his own right this episode was off the cusp we were a little turned up Jasper was really really drunk so we weren't really prepared for this at all the conversations definitely got wild and obviously as you guys have seen over maybe the past week or so we launched a new company called w am men's carine in Walmart this company is so near and dear to my heart and I partnered with Shawn to bring this Vision to life amongst other celebrities artists and athletes that we are announcing over the next couple of weeks here get your w at Walmart it is very very very very very good stuff and yes you heard the news I am fighting Mike Perry on July 20th it is going down I'm still fighting Mike Tyson November 15th that is happening but I'm staying active knocking out Mike Perry on July 20th and I'm excited for y'all to listen to this episode and he the vision of w how it all came together and how Shawn got involved and then everything to do with Shawn's career this podcast has been a long time coming but prepare yourself for some idiocracy per usual uh this is [ __ ] with Jake Paul we have a secret handshake check it out AC let me get that stop playing mean yeah we created that because we actually have so many things to get into here this has been a long time coming Jasper did bring up something and the reason W was created was because the other products in the category had harmful dyes parabens sulfates hormone disruptors and so we wanted to create the better for you vitamin infused product and and Sean's a co-owner just signed today yesterday for the show but we we'll get into all of that we we've been you know bringing sea on for like we've been talking for like a month and a half yes sir yes sir um it is currently May we've been doing a lot of shoots this podcast will probably come out at post W launch you can get I'm so drunk I'm sorry y'all you can get it in uh Walmart every Walmart you in Paca Walmart get it in you in Pensacola it's in Walmart in Kentucky Walmart Walmart so basically uh we we brought in the greatest people in the world to help build W and Sean is one of those people but dialing everything back we will get into the company the body washes how this all came about but uh we've been wanting to do this podcast and thanks for joining us BR hey guys hey thanks for joining us right did you uh yeah I did you sh for an hour bro did you did you do do we know do we set the stage of the day and the fact that Jasper's slash right now okay cool y drunk is a [ __ ] y like double drunk yep yep yep you drunk yeah all that so um but just winding everything back uh I think we've been friends for a long time in fact you were the first guest on this show oh [ __ ] crazy Zoom crazy that's right that's right that's right the first ever episode you zoomed in and that's crazy we're thankful we're thankful for our friendship and it's pretty cool that now we're here again today uh getting less views than before and that's fire that's it congratulations less views we're not we're not it was it was a joke it was a joke if you watching this please like and comment cuz we falling off right now but man by the time this comes out you're going to be getting ready for me RAB how do you say his name I don't remember morab is iTab or or I don't know me that's got to be it me but you got to say it with the emphasis look meab mirab meab meab there you go there you go so yeah I should be getting ready hopefully I ain't got nothing scheduled hopefully uh you know Uncle Dana will call me say hey buddy you want to fight in in here and there and there and then I'm d b boom and that that's how that works what's up with everybody on your body though everybody talking [ __ ] even people youat I wanted to bring up yeah and he's like saying like he's trying to post about you even yesterday it is weird but when you concuss someone you know what I just say they don't think as well as they used to so I think he's still concussed and he's a little confused because he's talking [ __ ] still he not in his right mind because I can just throw up another post go because it's a throwback Thursday it's a throwback Friday do you think do you think people don't respect you enough cuz I I see that as your friend an unbiased like they just see social media and podcasts and the the hair and stuff like that and then they just sh week but I [ __ ] with you I appr that um I don't think it is well you can't you know I think it's fine I think you're jealous I ain't going to lie I got some inches under here let's smell that hair you can smell my [ __ ] must who I do think I feel a little bit disrespected as the champ but I think that last fight against Che kind of you know shut a little bit of people up canny go five rounds Cheeto beat me before the Alo fight um shut a lot of people up canny grapple didn't have to Grapple cuz he couldn't take me down yeah Alo couldn't take you down I think that was the biggest thing where they were like yo that's his weakness like yeah wrestle him down and then he just proved everyone wrong that's what's so interesting about this morab fight is he's supposedly well he is he's [ __ ] good at wrestling he's really really good at wrestling he's boring as [ __ ] and no one will there won't be one comment saying yeah right he's actually kind of fun not one person I'm com won I'm com you can I ask you something would you put yourself in your own top five Strikers in the UFC oh I'm yeah yo easily who's your Mount Rushmore strikker well I I mean I would unbiasedly I would put him as number one because adna is in like top three but he also like got beat by put that [ __ ] down boy he did uh bro I'm up there I'm up there Max is really good Max super his striking that's a good top five there that's four me Max Elia adaga uh I'm sure I'm missing some your with a one would it be that's that's a minus one Mount rmore is four yeah but I only got four but if you throw the five in it's a plus one isn't there only four yeah but but you ready to throw the five up I'm four all right that's my more but yeah once again uh this is a [ __ ] ass podcast so we apologize hey but something something you just touched on you talked about Fighters being fun and interesting how much and you're you're a superstar how much of you being a superstar how much of any fighter being a superstar comes down to them being fun and interesting as you are and how much of it comes down to their actual fighting good question uh well who's a super who who obviously Connor comes to mind I think he's he's a character he's fun he's interesting who else comes to mind is like a superstar I would say Izzy gives that off I think he's an interesting guy other than that there's not like a ton of fun like Ryan Garcia is doing a really good job right now of being [ __ ] interesting being a character uh I think that's fentel I think it's drugs as well I wouldn't deny that but he's still making people interested in Ryan versus Devon Haney was an interesting fight not because Devon Haney that dude's boring as [ __ ] you think he did them roids no I don't think Ryan did I think Devon needs to take that L he being a [ __ ] about I think the craziest [ __ ] you said to me and like I don't even know if we want to put this in there or bring it up but we we can always remove it but uh because of your your situation with the ostarine and you said to me like and it I like fully felt your energy you're like I swear on my daughter's life I never did that and you got popped for it yeah same thing happened uh to Ryan right now he popped for aost the low super low level a some [ __ ] like a trillionth of a gr the same thing happened to me uh so when that came out with Ryan like I truly truly didn't believe he took anything because it was the same [ __ ] and it happens to a lot of [ __ ] ostarine happens to how does that happen it's called the tainted supplement so if you're taking anything that has protein in it that's not third party tested uh could not just protein any kind of supplement that's not third party tested it's either NSF or there's a bunch of different third party tests but if you're not if you're taking something that doesn't have that there's chances there could be something in it but austram people pop for that all the time my case was not that big of a deal cuz I wasn't as huge of a star as I am now but it still was like a big deal because of my name the reason it's going so crazy right now is because Ryan G is a superstar so people are freaking out but it happens to a lot of athletes I just before we move past it I just on that Superstar topic how is that is that Superstar factor that that someone like you has someone like Ryan has someone like Connor has is it something you're born with or is it is it a practice is it something you can learn and do you sit back and like think like oh how can I go viral today how can I I think it's both I think you have to want to be a superstar there's some guys in the UFC like I want to make more money I want this I want that but they don't really want to be a superstar you you got to want it you got to you got to have some kind of vision a long time before well and and also like who you are as a person you have to have that like Fire Within still though like before you got into want famous I want to be in the NFL I want to be NBA I wanted to be a [ __ ] athlete when I was young was instilled I was just for whatever reason I wanted to make it when I was young I'm from H in Montana like small ass can I ask you something what's your opinion on like the take b nickel takes like where he's like super friendly and humble and like I think he's a sweet ass [ __ ] they love him but like bro that [ __ ] pisses me off I think that [ __ ] is cool too n like you're a hum like [ __ ] talk your [ __ ] you're what 670 like bro talk your [ __ ] like it it kind of bores me no I get yeah I mean that's that's some people's opinion is like he's too nice too humble too that but he's being himself um but he's also super young in the sport I think he and he's still pretty what is he 28 you're in a sport of War if I was playing like [ __ ] Cricket I would be like yeah like but that's that's the thing is for for for a character like him what it seems like is that's what he's in is the sport of war and that's it he's not in the sport of entertainment he's a nice ass sweetheart get there is some people that that understand both sides of things but I also have respect for and I see when someone's that's strictly in the sport of if I play chess with you I'm going to be like good game and I'm going to shake your hand I talk [ __ ] be F ass to a PO it I'm going to be like [ __ ] you you need to get better at whatever you're doing dial dialing it back a little bit um to the aost stream thing I think it's like what do you think about Conor tweeting still at like 3:00 a.m. like coked out he he he he sent shots at me and Ryan talking [ __ ] but it's it's crazy coming from Connor who literally got out of the usada pool to do steroid like legit steroids so it's kind of wild and I was the biggest Connor fan for a long time in the last couple weeks ever since he sent that wasn't even a couple weeks ago probably a week ago I've been trying to hate him I've been trying to be like [ __ ] you Connor but I can't I love Connor I it's like I am excited for his fight coming up I'm excited I want you know I'm all about it what's the fight is it Chandler Chandler in June it's going to be big they just been trying to do it for a long time so I didn't know if it still still I think officially I think it's I think I think the craziest part about it is what like eight weeks before a fight that he's still like coked and drunk out of his mind who you got though who that's a good it is crazy that he still like he tweeted that deleted like 20 minutes later he was definitely [ __ ] up on well that's what I was going to say we can't just Grace past that do you is that that's a that's a bold thing to say do you you know he's on coke is that a is that are you [ __ ] gills I don't know anything but I know for certain that he's brother like look at the time of the tweets and look at what he's saying like also and he's like known for this simar tweets yeah yeah I don't know just manic brother I think he is I do think Ryan is I think he when he said he was playing into it a little bit I I think he's kind of using that I think he's [ __ ] crazy what what what would happen if you and Ryan boxed that's I mean there's only one way to find out he has a lot better chances of beating me in a boxing match than he does in a real fight keep up I do I I [ __ ] I truly believe in myself that's how I got to the [ __ ] position I'm in right now I can box I can throw hands um I don't think it'd be easy by any means I do think it's possible I beat him I'm not saying my my odds are great but I do believe I could beat Ryan Bo if there was anybody you could box for your first boxing match debut who are you Bo give an easy fight give me Deon Haney you give [Laughter] me honest answer uh I mean if we're I I would say Floyd if I Pi if I could sit here and pick who I box first boxing fight I pick Floyd because it would be the biggest most crazy most legendary fight maybe not most legendary some people for me okay but outside of that on a skill based level oh I I could hang with some good [ __ ] pro boxers I'm undefeated in boxing you think you think if you and uh ilot boxed that' be ilot is very very [ __ ] skilled boxing that's an interesting question so who what what professional boxer would you equate your PA Mike Tyson I know of Devon Haney now because Ryan Garcia beat him uh dvon Davis he's really short I know him um maybe smacking [ __ ] up though he does he that little guy he can't he can't ride roll coasters though that is true so there's a there's a tradeoff like Cruz fight he was riding a roller coaster no like I'm talking about like at the fair oh no you know like there there's a trade-off in life you know where things get weird it's like it's like yo he's really good but you can't even just hit Dante fan brother can't even ride the top not a Dante fan that's not what I'm wait what did what did I say to say I'm not a you didn't say I mean I don't think he knows that it's a short joke I don't think he picked up on you want me tell him I was joking shut the [ __ ] up I get I say that was a joke I'm what are you trying to say I'm but are you trying to insinuate that I'm short no honestly you're probably what five you're 5'9 you're like 5' seven and a half stop doing stop doing it stop doing that cuz [ __ ] is going to see this and be like he's 5'6 actually if you watching this and you think I'm 5'6 and you want to try me in person please any [ __ ] who see me out I'm punching your [ __ ] out I'm like 5'9 on a good day when when I'm lying to women I'm 5'10 for sure who's gonna ID me I'm wearing forces I'm a [ __ ] liar all right so now for the truth jakee he's like what like he's 5 No but don't do that bro all right all right we won't we'll cut that out like yeah n don't cut it out n don't see me and see these but you know dvon is 5'5 legit that's cool bro I know but is that not short just be honest is that five five short for a grown man for a grown man is that short you can be a fan I'm not I'm a fan of javante and he's five that's a little little bro all right the joke went over his head anyways so the short joke [ __ ] is trying to play me like I'm short no no no we're we're not we're not you're [ __ ] tall all right let's pivot yeah so um SI yeah sh shout out to the shout out to the pivot but but yeah like Jasper's a little riled up things are on edge he's a little he's a little turned up it's been a long day a long two days we've been shooting uh because we have a new [ __ ] company did we say we talk about that yet I we said in the beginning raise your arms up [ __ ] goed [ __ ] goed shout out to w a fun few days it's been a fun few days days you're going to see the content rolling out um but you speaking of but Ruby Rose did a good job oh my God I wanted to bite that M listen anyway if you're near wmart if you're watching this right now I don't give a [ __ ] what you're doing you could be taking care of your kid you could be taking care of your elderly parents [ __ ] them go to Walmart June 1st Nationwide I don't care if you in Pensacola you in Massachusetts all in places that sound [ __ ] stupid there's a Walmart there and you go there it's a better for you product vitamin ifuse number [ __ ] one yeah no basically I I think dialing back like the business story of it because you're also like a very smart businessman intellectual doing everything you do in and outside of the Ring which a lot of people don't have which contributes to you being uh the biggest in my opinion the biggest UFC star um but yeah we we basically I guess this is the podcast where we tell people where W came from but um we started building this company like a year and a half ago and really saw how all these other companies like as we move into better for you products and less harmful products we saw how the leaders in the space didn't have the best formulas didn't have the best manufacturing had all of these harmful substances in it and we're also brands from when I was like 9 years old I don't want to list names but they're still like having all the Shelf space in stores and I was just like this is wild like this is boring this is lame the the the we need something new we need something that's better uh males have vitamin uh deficiencies like crazy especially with magnesium Jasper just can't get enough of it uh especially with magnesium um and biotin is in the body wash uh vitamin E one two of the best vitamins for your skin and hair um but as The Story Goes long story short we we come up with this brand that represents so many things um but I think winning in everyday life whether you're the valedictorian whether you are the high school jock whether you're philanthropist now you have a product that you can embody and wear every single day that's increasing your vitamin intake that is less harmful to you that's where the idea came from and just being the winning formula in category uh went to Walmart pitched them the whole idea they [ __ ] loved it helped us build the brand even and come up with the scent profiles and all the things that are the the most popular um and this has been something I've wanted to do for so long we had to bring in the best people to be a part of it the winners in their category and that's number one Numero Uno sha Ali here um and he instantly saw the vision and already in the past couple of days it's been like super fun filming all the content behind yeah I was pumped when you [ __ ] called me appreciate you thinking of me and uh excited to help grow this business [ __ ] it's needed it's needed we're going to take over the whole bathroom you know tooed if you [ __ ] with the dogs and cows and chickens dog in you I know what I got that dog in me and I use it so be dog free baby am I missing anything with that no I think that was great the one the one thing I would touch on and you did in a way but it's it is body wash it is body spray it is deodorant but it also is there's an ethos that stands behind this brand which is the ethos that you stand for and it's the ethos that you stand for and the ethos that you stand for and the one that I stand for if I say ethos again I'm GNA start stumbling over my words but it's it's it's like you said it it doesn't the winners in life aren't just you you're on a big stage in life you're you're you're crushing it in every aspect financially you're a star you're leading your sport that's awesome on every [ __ ] level it's it's an encouragement to to young men all around the world to [ __ ] get up off their ass and get sh it don't matter if you score high on a test you whatever the [ __ ] it is that you do well maybe not so it matters what the [ __ ] you do but it also doesn't matter what the [ __ ] you do anybody is a winner as long as you put in the work and you have the will to win and I love it I I would say that's wrong I would say that not anybody is a winner and I think that's something that the brand also stands for like you really got to win you got to as you have the will to win no I'm just saying I think that's an important point cuz we live in a world today where a lot of people think everybody can be a winner that's not true if you Los you might be a loser and if you're a loser the good news is there's a hidden l in the logo actually we'll trace it for you with our graphic design team there's a hidden l in the logo because and I I I wanted to make sure that was was a thing because the biggest loss of my life turned out to be the biggest W in my life and I always had the saying like two L's make a w and when I lost to Tommy Fury it was embarrassing all these things but I realized I wasn't focused I wasn't as locked in as I could be the team around me from a boxing standpoint wasn't good I was having personal issues with relationships and all of these things that I had to shed and grow from and I grew into this new and completely different person but I wouldn't have done that if I didn't lose on the biggest stage possible and I think that was part of the ethos ethos ethos ethos of the brand was to encourage people that in their lowest moments to turn those into into their biggest W's eventually when Jake just said that the biggest loss of his life ended up being the biggest W of his life you said same yeah yeah same what what was that story for supposedly lost for lost to Cheeto back in 2020 August it it was I mean it sucked at the time but I it didn't suck too bad because I was like okay I didn't lose because I you know and it was different I wasn't I mean I was focused everything went good training camp everything was good but I was like that sucks I'm goingon to get that back someday when the time is right and then my last fight two two months ago in Miami headline I'm the champ defending my belt against that same guy how rewarding was that three and a half years later August three and a half years later boom beat his ass as a fan of yours it made it so sweet because of all the doubters that constantly like put you down and didn't believe in you and said he was going to destroy you and then you he literally like you embarrass him that was a performance of a life you embarrassed the [ __ ] out of him and I think that's literally a prime example of turning l l into into a w and I really that's what that's where the hidden l in the brand in the logo is um and representing that every single day when you see these products in your bathroom and when we say we have a saying it's not just a product it's a lifestyle absolutely trademarked Incorporated All Rights Reserved 2024 brother uh but but yeah man it's it's an honor to have you a part of this and uh we we really made what we think are the best products on the market from the body wash being exfoliating vitamin infused to the body spray what we found out is a lot of these fragrances like you get like these high-end designer brands that have like $500 colognes turns out it only cost them a dollar to make that and they're literally making like $499 on top of that so we had a fine fragrance house is what these places are called and we got the super expensive scents and gave it to people to what they're worth like we're not trying to these products are super super affordable and I think it's so funny because that's the world we live in where like you just label something and get like a European girl to go this is one of the lower priced men's care products on the market yeah if I'm not mistaken and it's it's the $500 fragrance in the affordable bottle because we want everyone we've been using a body wash in the past two days since we got the samples after the shoot and I personally want to say I got the in there you could bleep it out whatever you want to do W's winning n b genuinely that's that's the saying is the it's winning formula cuz it really is like it really is if if we're going to call our company [ __ ] W it has to be the best we the winners winning product indeed indeed winning customers all that type of [ __ ] indeed better Derek today he's just got a punch I'm not Li I talked to him before he left he wants to punch you up bro he's got a punchable face I like him though it's weird it's like God I like that guy but I want [ __ ] KO pick him up and like it's okay boom one more to the liing me earlier and I'm just letting you know don't shoot the messenger on God he said he wants to get in the ring with you I can call him really he oh yeah he he you want to call him yeah where is he at is wait uh no call no call he's coming up oh um he's talking smack he said he actually wants a spar I swear to God he said he wants to get percentage should I go you guys I literally out let that's crazy timeing saying talk [ __ ] to my face if you're going to talk [ __ ] that's crazy timing what were you saying they were telling me you want to get in the ring and Spar bit or they didn't say Spar they said fight yeah I'm down to do either but uh yeah no I'm just sick of the [ __ ] [ __ ] you've been saying on your podcast uh you called me you made fun of my weight and you called me gay I did not no I well okay okay you said that he wouldn't ever say that what you got to say what your chest that's what I just [ __ ] said bro I he was like oh if I if stand on it you talking to him you talking to him you ain't talking to me my assistant Sono would would piece you he's never boxed a day he never I'm here to fight your video I'm here to fight you what did I what was the first thing I said to you when when I saw you what was the first thing I said to you that we could fight no I said you look thick wait but when we were talking earlier weren't you saying he's a [ __ ] and you wanted to get a ring with him and all type [ __ ] what I'm saying right now say it then I just said the [ __ ] ring so we can after this we have a ring 2 feet away and he's a [ __ ] and whatever else you was saying to me yeah he's [ __ ] what about my hair say something about my hair I I already said that at the W shoot that you look like you haven't showered in [ __ ] a week okay all right d hey buddy hey hey what's your long-term play not no but see you guys you guys are making me seem crazy you're out of your mind he Derek Dereck go warm up hit the hit the heavy back H the warm up is almost listen legendary as send location dble PIV go warm up hey hey double pivot sit sit I'm not [ __ ] no I I'll sit and talk but I'm not [ __ ] no sit on the floor walk you want to take my seat hey how much how much of what's going on ch ch how much of what's going on is is a character versus like actual delusion how much is a character yeah decent uh I would say there are times where I know what I have to do for my boxing career to like like we all why is he laughing cuz you said career I beat your [ __ ] boy your [ __ ] [ __ ] bro you know what I I recall you did beat I recall calling steiny saying what the [ __ ] was that buddy I love steiny but I do remember watching that and thinking I wasn't proud of that I was not proud of that from steiny and I wish I wish he would come to the gym I wish he'd get in there I wish he'd train a little bit and I wish he would have a rematch but that's on him I've been trying to get the rematch but he's been ding me do you think Derek won he said I won I thought I thought he won I'd have to rewatch but I do think I come on baby the comments have [ __ ] dragged me for months after that [ __ ] 99% of the comments say I lost so please say it one more time Sean no I said it what I said it's like therapy or something no but to answer your question uh we all know uh uh as Fighters there's a side of promotion stop [ __ ] first of all Gus shut the [ __ ] up our our audio guys uh like can't stop laughing is that the facial his facial hair or is what he's saying bro that's bold of you to talk facial hair bro that's bold of you to I'm not Li you look dirty you look like Jeffrey done training right Jesus I train every day but anyway we know like there's two sides of of promotion as well as the actual athletic competition that is Combat Sports so there are times where I might play up a little bit like hey promoting but let him go let him go all right if you if all if you think I'm all promoting that I'll see you in the [ __ ] ring and I'll knock both you either of you out well um well Jake's a [ __ ] fat [ __ ] right now he weighs like 240 so I got I goty I gotta pick my words wisely like he's Jake's 240 I I know I know but like I'm not going to sit here and pick a fight against somebody that's 240 when I'm se's my weight class when I stopped you in one round like just like but when I was getting started out of come this is where I'm at since then I told him he could have somebody tag team I'm down I'm down to fight anybody in this [ __ ] room not one person in this room I'm the best part about this is like uh right after this we I think you're you're down to do like one round or three minutes right I mean I'd prefer 12 but we okay yeah 12 I mean that my biggest advantage in the ring ring is my cardio I do 12 12 okay so no I have a genuine question so five round I'm not I'm not one have I ever said I'm a UFC fighter no I'm just say we can box I'm just saying that's I'm used to five you want to do three we could do that aren't you trying to be a boxer with your [ __ ] Ryan Garcia call he would knock knock your [ __ ] ass out so quickly it wouldn't be close I'm one and0 pro boxing what are you actually I saw that video I saw video I'm also want to know thank you officially hey they count that's real commiss but uh I didn't mean I didn't mean to take I didn't mean to take over the pot I just wanted to a couple you definitely didn't yeah okay I try I'm trying to help you no we love you go warm up yeah yeah go warm up the bags don't warm up too much though don't get tired how much do you wa right now without Timberlands and jean shorts on high 120 low 13 no without lying though okay that [ __ ] is you think you got you got him one round I think I could beat him I think I can beat him I I think I could handicap myself to three just put on one glove I could do that what do you think actually happens now when you go downstairs and he gets in that ring like what's his plan that's what I don't get about him but that's why it's that's do me a favor that's why he's Cloud it up because love [ __ ] up [ __ ] he's going he's going to try to Yap he's going to try to talk please just go 100% yeah no actually actually please go 100% if he signs a consent form we'll have him no we've already got like multiple consent forms for better media with like death wavers [ __ ] no no no but he needs it he needs that I'll go like 40 no go like 75 Sean I'm I'm going to be honest bro don't even go 20% he's the nice [ __ ] bro don't do that bro you want him to go 100% no no to be honest but just like work with him and then just like maybe just just like a really good punching and then he'll give up 75% uh I'm nervous man I'm shaking for Derek yeah yeah that's good I understand that there a couple flinches if you Flinch hard enough the the wind coming off you will put him down let him walk you down and bait him boom sleeping what's your next upcoming fight a maraba jaaba and when is that uh not nothing yet I'm hoping for September maybe October maybe November maybe December I'm F ready to go baby what if it was next month I wouldn't be ready to go I like I like 10 to 12 weeks 10 to 12 he likes eight I mean I I normally do like 10 yeah just like but I've been super the first few weeks are [ __ ] pre-amps this Camp I'm channeling my Ryan Garcia would you ever do a Ryan Garcia regiment during Camp drink and smoke every night you do a little I I probably yeah I'm not actually doing that for the people out there he's locked in clocked in locked in locked in ready to go yeah May 20th we start but by the time the people see this it'll be uh June or something like that that is crazy you're fighting Mike that you fought Ben asran wrestler good good [ __ ] UFC was really good UF bit Tyron Woodley twice Anderson Silva knockout of the year with Nate Robinson can't forget about deji deji the the the goat do we say Gibb or is that like that's just crazy resume like literally [ __ ] C by way thank you Gib cuz we had a really good party after he knocked you the [ __ ] out who W we're skipping two professional boxers this always no no the recent ones this always happens I'm trying to just think cuz two cuz this is what everybody asked for this is what everybody asked for who who are the two professional boxers you fighted you got to name them Andre August and Ryan Borland go okay people don't people are like fight a pro boxer and then I do and then they're like that was boring as a man of combat he what were 10 and one nine and one nine and one what is your take on his [ __ ] all of his fights and who he's fighting in the competition dude I've been excited as [ __ ] since I started I remember you I remember the first time I watched was the Nate Robinson I watched that one at home and then uh I don't remember what it was after that but I remember watching Ben Asam in Atlanta I think that was the first time we actually met was right after the fight I think we hugged I was like y I picked you up you carried me back to the locker room that it was love at first sight that was crazy actually yeah actually I [ __ ] with him we became best friends like a couple days later you going to leave me hanging no no I would it's my eyebrow but uh yeah no I think he's obviously super skilled I think it's and I I it's inspired me even in the position I'm at UFC World Champ sexy you know what I mean like tall dark handsome TR inspired me just business the business uh side of things that you've done I've always thought putting on massive fight that's why I'm such a huge Conor fan cuz the pay-per-views he's done is so [ __ ] he's been fighting for four years and [ __ ] that he's been doing the massive fights the fights I get excited for there's a few UFC fights the high the big big fights that I get excited for but every time you fought even when uh Logan fought Floyd I was [ __ ] like excited like all fight week so i' I've been inspired from what you've done from a business side from the boxing side they even just start so not late but for a boxer but these boxers start when they're [ __ ] three four years old like Ryan and tank like they're young buck the Tik Tac I sent you of Devon Haney's debut fight yeah it's wild he was fighting a five foot Mexican in a in a bar was it Dante bro if I show you this [ __ ] oh no I did see that I did see that I did see that when you started even seeing that first video fighting Anderson Silva six fights in bro like do you know how insane that is he's one of the greatest correct me if I'm wrong UFC Strikers in history yeah 100% so does that make me one of the greatest UFC Strikers and one of the greatest wrestlers cuz wood but Ben ask was but Nate Diaz is ducking me in MMA oh am crazy I am weak that's a sick fight MMA I I wish it was that would happened right after the boxing same he's actually ducking it which is why it's crazy because he's not he's not in UFC no but we we upped it to 15 million damn that's crazy though that would be a I like Nate Diaz but that would be such a fun buildup he actually doesn't want to do it all Sean how do you genuinely Jake's not here it's me and you in a room actually how do you see that fight going for Jake what MMA him you're not here J for Nate in MMA keep it a bean God it's it's so hard to you're a big [ __ ] right now on what weight would it be5 185 I don't hate I don't I it's not a it's a winable fight for you I really do think that but Nate is so [ __ ] you would have to do what I did against aljo and morab do not let that [ __ ] grab you not that you can't wrestle cuz I know you can wrestle but once he starts grabbing you and doing Jiu-Jitsu if he gets on top his little he likes his little trips it would be hard for you to win I feel like if he if he started grappling just pure Jiu-Jitsu if it let's be real if it goes to the floor is he [ __ ] if he's on his back Nate's not like a super strong guy so if you learn how to like I mean I'm sure you know how to get up to a single legegg stuff like that but then you start getting your neck grabbed I don't know how much Jiu-Jitsu you know I mean Nate's a [ __ ] high Lev black belt um if you could keep it standing 100% there's winnable ways there if he if he went to the ground feel like he might be able to grab your neck no that that's exactly how I feel about it if I don't get guillotined yeah then I win the fight because even if he was on top take your back but even if he was on top of me I would just throw him off of me cuz he's also the weakest puncher I've ever fought like when he was hitting me I was I almost like started laughing I'm I'm not even saying this to talk [ __ ] out of everyone I've sparred in my whole entire life and everyone I fought his punches are even me we I don't think you ever landed a punch on me is that true well that's not true so I don't anyone no I'm literally not even talking [ __ ] which is why I think it's funny that he dropped Connor and [ __ ] cuz it's just like how Conor with like to the ground yeah like with a straight left hand yeah which is crazy like I I'm not just talking [ __ ] when I say that and I've told you I've literally told you this you told me this after the fight yeah I was like he is the weakest puncher I've ever fought in my life who's who's the weakest puncher you've ever you've ever come to face um there I mean there's been so many fights where I later didn't even get hit um uh does that like make you jaded at all when you get into a fight and you don't really get love that [ __ ] I prefer not to get hit at all but like if I was you and I wasn't get hit at all I'd probably work less no no no no I I know I don't get hit because I work that hard so if I didn't work hard I know I'd probably get hit I'm just a lazy [ __ ] so so here you are on top of the world we're launching [ __ ] W going to be a billion dollar business [ __ ] you I always forget uh UFC champ accomplishing all your goals what do you want next uh what are what is the threeyear fiveyear for Sean I I truly do want to get a boxing fight I'm not I'm not super set on that to where like I'm like going to be [ __ ] if it doesn't happen I do think it'll be interesting especially if I go out there knock morab out Ryan does his thing I think there's a [ __ ] sweet fight there if it doesn't happen not that worried about it want to go out there beat morab I'd like to you know if Max Max and Elia fight I would like to fight go move up to 45 fight the winner of that um you know maybe have three to five maybe have a few more kids definitely want another little baby I love kids my fite pump him out shout out to Danny who's your top pick in a boxing fight though if you if you could choose your Ryan now was like the I mean what he after dvon Beat Ryan I was like javante then Ryan goes out there does his thing really though I think Dante do you is that is that not a big [ __ ] leap Ryan like you said before he's been doing this his whole life one thing that's been proven is that the crossover it's it's not a good return Fury he did his thing okay the excep is the exception we've seen it with okay but then Anthony Joshua put his ass t was crazy super night night he was I'm I'm here for big fights like I wanted to get into the UFC and I wanted to make big fights watching Conor versus Floyd I'm like that [ __ ] happened really happened hey you versus Derek that could be as big as Connor in Floyd but no but I I think the craziest [ __ ] about Conor versus Floyd is that overall it was a W for everyone involved so there's certain fights where it just like doesn't matter what happens that's the world we live in yeah I mean UFC told me they said if the if the fight's big enough and it'll make the UFC money they'll do it what means more to you your your your record being pre or the amount of money you're making all right let me ask you something it's about to get real J's drunk Jasper's drunk as [ __ ] y record or money [ __ ] it depends the Gap like like the gap of money if it's like an extra 10 15 20 million but I lose a couple important fights probably not you just take like 150 million I'll be like like [ __ ] my record baby yeah it depends on the gap of money Jake Paul is not here right now just like a Mayweather Conor McGregor you taking that fight ver Jake yeah no he's my buddy I could I mean I don't I don't even no I no funny no there's you know what's funny is always in my Snapchat story once once a day pretty much someone says we knock out Jake Paul like there's every sing all the time for so long people just want to see me get [ __ ] is good though that's like the thing yeah but I'm sensitive it is funny though people [ __ ] love to hate confidence the craziest thing though actually about both of you like I met you very recently like I didn't realize you're as like normal as you are I don't know why I thought you violent like you guys are both like very goofy mellow and stupid and c and and awesome it's like the greatest thing ever like I couldn't believe when I met you you're like one of us like yeah I wouldn't think you're a [ __ ] yeah one of the coolest people in the world for sure yeah but not a lot of people uh can like I don't know we have like a weird it's hard toes Meat Heads I'm like this the this my dog I think it's a little bit of dark humor too it's like some [ __ ] up [ __ ] that we say off camera [ __ ] sometimes but I think it's like there's a certain yeah like that's how my whole group is back home it's like we all just we're all just kind of [ __ ] dumb I'm smart but like they're dumb well someone commented like yo Jake Paul's the dumbest genius in the world and I was just like I say that [ __ ] all the time you wed up the other day and I was like this is the most genius dumbass in the world no jokes Hey Brother chill buddy trying to get me cancelled no what how old are you 23 are you really yeah no you're not he's not is he what do you think think what did you think Oh no you're 267 27 what did you think he was I thought he was older I thought he was like 27 26 yeah a niggaer mature was that ladies you got a boo you got a girl you just be slanging she timeout right now I don't really talk about she don't time out it's a little tricky she not taking care of herself what do you guys think about Tom Brady R you watch it yeah they kept comp panning to you every 5 Seconds bro I swear there's a huge camer sitting there the whole time but it's cool to see Netflix going hard like that cuz they went hard they swing that meat around huha yeah let's pivot yeah just sorry about him I'm drunk man not yeah but but it was it was great it wasar they should have got rid of most of the football players going up there yeah there's a couple ones Ben afflac is that who that was on there that was wild that was so weird that was so weird it was cool to see how [ __ ] less sensitive people are becoming I feel like feel like it's recently like there's a big push back I think people got sick of it we went super super super PC for a long time people were like wait a second we like being able to say what we want to say I saw kill Tony say oh type of crazy [ __ ] on there that watch every [ __ ] Monday you were on kill Tony yeah how old are you actually buddy I'm a comedian Budd full time no yeah I was on that I was nervous as hell though I was like just being it's a live I do podcast once a week like me and Tim do our podcast every [ __ ] week but to be there in front of an audience live it's weird it's a different kind of well so you say Tim but let's let's talk about actually the fact that you get trained by by one of the greatest boxers of all time it's really that's something what's happened like that's crazy working with Canelo as your as your coach that's what I'm saying people don't going to be Ryan but like yeah that is true I never even thought about that for did you even know that this guy proba even know that that orange [ __ ] is nice wait will I get cancelled by the ginger community no you're black oh no my dad my dad's Ginger and I'm I'm like this [ __ ] is ginger bro he be shaving he be shaving his beard and I zoom in zoom in it's it's slightly orange so I'm a quarter ginger on South Park they made fun of Gingers and that [ __ ] made the news I [ __ ] with the ginger people but like y'all [ __ ] you like redhead girls oh yeah was Super Soaker but anyway yeah like y'all [ __ ] is orange and that's okay but back to you one of y'all that's not drunk I got a question cuz this guy clipped out a lot did Tim actually like you guys about him like saying to fight that was yeah that was real Tim always be talking [ __ ] to the like he's been doing that for so long so what happened he just talk I mean he just he Alo the knee's coming Alo you got to shoot Alo watch out for this like he's been saying that since I've been in the UFC like my debut vers terion where he was talking [ __ ] to terion too and uh he just does it every fight but this happened to just be crazy timing to like Tim you got Tim like alre you got to go and like literally he he like that's when he threw that left hand or whatever stepped into Southpaw and uh or stepped into Orthodox and got dropped it was it was funny the timing because he's like Al you got to go I don't I truly don't think that's why that's not why Alo went I bet you could I bet Alo didn't even hear that but Tim's always chirping and stuff but people on the internet are [ __ ] mad about that a lot of them actually like it I'll say majority of people are thinking that's the funniest [ __ ] ever there's a couple [ __ ] that are like you should be banned think it's a fight would you run the alra fight back or one and done never I like that why would I yeah am I supposed to top that you know what I'm saying I got love for Alo we had him on the show and he he seems like a good dude I actually don't mind Alo I does that ever happen where like you'll have a personal relationship with someone personal runin with them and it's all great but then now all of a sudden you have to fight each other I've never had I've not of running with someone that's been like uh more than like I've ran into aljo morab at the UFC I'm like hey what's up talk to him a little bit you know nothing no ill will um but I haven't had like a run with someone I actually lik them mhm and then at the fight them so you're not friends with any any other UFC fighters oh I have a there's there's a couple guys in my in my weight class that I train with at the lab that are like climbing the r uh ladders what happened with uh the 125 pounder I I don't even know his name and I'm not I'm just not like yeah what's his name I Alexander pania bro this story is actually kind of funny so 2016 I think it was it was like 3 and0 4 and0 and I was still fighting at like I fought at 125 not too long before that I fought at like 130 which is in a weight class was like so I wasn't like a 155 like I am now I was probably like 14 back then and uh Henry cejudo comes in I'm three or four and0 at the point at this point it comes in with this kid Alexander PTO just won The Ultimate Fighter I think he's got his UFC debut or it's his second UFC fight he's a couple weeks out from his fight I'm [ __ ] the night before me and Tim ripping bongs like hanging out being goofballs and [ __ ] so the next morning so we brought him in for sparring hry sudo brings in Alexander you're 4-0 he's King [ __ ] he he's just won The Ultimate Fighter and so they write the names on on the board who who you're sparring I'm like oh [ __ ] I got Alexander Pantoja versus me for one round one round he has three rounds so you write one one name then usually you you spar with one guy then they go out you spar with a fresh guy they go out spar with the fresh guy that's usually how it works so my name was just up there for one round that's it we Spar one round I didn't know anything about him cuz I I didn't really watch it like that 25 I don't really watch 25ers like that but somebody's like oh [ __ ] that's he a black belt he just won The Ultimate Fighter I was like oh [ __ ] I got to [ __ ] Focus up here first round boom Dro him with a liver kick and I wasn't going to post I record all my rounds I have so many sparring rounds like I wasn't going to post it was and for some reason I don't know why he would talk [ __ ] and bring it up cuz I literally I don't know you know know I don't know if you know how it works but you finish a guy the fight's over right no no did he um so I finished him the first round he hit him boom with the liver I posted the video yesterday and I've had it for a long time I didn't want to post it CU you don't post sparring like that but he just kept bringing it up so boom finished him first round um then uh after the first round round I go to walk out and Henry's over there crying box of Kleenex just like [ __ ] wiping his tears crying we want you for a second round so mad that this little like I was nobody just finished his dude he's in the UFC he's supposed to be the man finish him in the first round so Henry's crying saying he wants another round um so I piece him up again in the second round and I'm I'm dying at this point my lungs are burning I'm not in shape for fight I I'm nowhere near in Camp for a fight and I my lungs are hurting and uh Henry again crying blowing his nose and like I want you for a third and Benson comes in Benson Henderson absolute Legend comes in and was yelling cuz that's his it was the his gym the MMA lab we don't let people come in our gym and make us tired and blah blah blah and I'm [ __ ] just just huffing and puffing I just got done work in this dude for 10 minutes finished him in the first round did I say that liver kick um we'll put the footage I have the foot yeah it's right there insert the footage so third round come out boom piece him up again and he's so I don't know why he keeps bringing up this bringing this up in the media I think it's because people ask him but I don't know why he doesn't just say yeah yeah no no I don't want to talk about it he keeps saying like he's like oh I got in I found his range and [ __ ] I'm like bro you you stopped him in one round stopped him in round one and let him live and continue to fight for round two these delusional uh like wild people are weirdos but the reason I posted cuz he kept bringing it up exactly wait so is he the champ now at 125 yeah okay but why does he still want to talk [ __ ] to you if you got [ __ ] up that's what I'm saying I don't know either either you drop to 125 and get that no I can't drop to 125 that's too much now you're a thick [ __ ] I am a thick but yeah I SP I think it's important for up and cominging Spar uh fighters to record their rounds and watch their rounds not for that this reason you know but just to I've improve so much watching my sparring y I have thousands of rounds maybe not thousands hundreds of rounds from 10 years ago on my on my computer of uh it's like NFL team is watching footage the time [ __ ] 100% got to watch that [ __ ] that's I I have every single round recorded and and again I I don't post sparring either exactly you know put in a highlight video make a vlog boom we're sparring people but it's never like [ __ ] up your guy yeah exactly but Mike Perry honestly like what he's been doing is pretty Fu he went to Bare knuckle that [ __ ] just meant for him bare knuckle fighting it's crazy different going crazy he's doing good he's [ __ ] undefeated over there he's beating some really good guys stay over here [ __ ] [ __ ] only place that you should be getting tickets from is game time.co it's it's the only place I go it is the only place you can possibly go they have 110% price match guarantee that's what we use to get our tickets for the NBA Finals you can get $20 off your first order go to gametime.co JJ a $20 off your first order they're doing a deal specifically for y'all and you could see where your tickets are before you buy them seeing the seats they have all of the these great policies last 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platform there is Mike Paul versus Jake Tyson here's my official prediction tell us and even if even if it's against me like it's not it's not I do think you're going to beat Mike Tyson uh it's crazy that I even saying that out loud right now cuz you're fighting Mike Tyson it's [ __ ] crazy even just when we were walking down the the street today people all genders all ages knew you were fighting Mike Tyson it's such a massive fights live on Netflix which is [ __ ] crazy it's in a stadium which is [ __ ] crazy it is crazy I believe in you I see what you I see what you're doing I see you know that you believe in yourself Mike Tyson is uh hasn't fought in however long it's been so for him to just come up and get a fight be I I'm sure is going to be in as good a shape as he possibly could be in but it's just you know it's it's it's it's not his time right now I love Mike Tyson I never actually met him but I love Mike Tyson I do think Jake's gonna get the job done and I do think eight rounds eight two-minute rounds eight two-minute rounds I believe I believe you could put them away in the later rounds you know five six seven eight I do think you could put it put him down which is crazy to even [ __ ] think you rap yeah that's fire I'm just lazy and inconsistent that's not a w no that sh it is not you start using Brandon yell at him every day but cuz you can actually spit that's fire no but but people know him now from like podcasting they don't know he's a rapper and hurts his soul J sick name Lil jizz what J JZ that's good that's good you should switch your [ __ ] I switch my [ __ ] from come Master to kill Jas bro honestly though that's I think singing rapping spitting is one of the things that if I could switch talents be doing something like that that's good or twerking I ain't going to lie you shook that [ __ ] earlier I got a I got a thing on me you that [ __ ] wiggle a little bit let's let's pivot though cuz yep hit a pivot uh yeah do we have a speaker should we play Jasper's new song or something you got a new one I thought you were lazy some new [ __ ] go ahead play on your phone just put it in the speaker put it in the mic too this the [ __ ] I'm dropping when I'm Indie that sound decent I'm not rapping either I'm yapping that's not going to get you drunk yo I made this beat that's crazy I like the way you look I won't lie you got something I need you my with a fly girl like you doing with no guy a little sh don't really go outside I'm not crazy right place and right time you all smiles and pretty light brown [Music] [Music] like that better if I forget you but I just can't time saying do better and I'm sure you can find that guy that's worth all right cut it cut it cut it that's that's enough that's enough that's enough that's enough for real can't give the whole thing it's not out yet yeah hey good [ __ ] that's fire I'll be rapping though but that's some pop [ __ ] just cuz I can do it so why are you consistent cuz I'm lazy and jaded and and spoiled yeah it's unfortunate maam shout out to the homies for a lot of talented people out there that just are yeah don't smoke crack yo also there there is a parallel there don't do don't do that there's a parallel with the same thing he's talking about I think Fighters probably where it's like you could have all the talent in the world he's got that's why I get so [ __ ] mad at him it's cuz he has all the talent in the world really I get more pissed off than he gets and he could be a superstar but he just is lazy he doesn't put the work in he's not he's not strategic and it is hard when you got when you live in a crib in Puerto Rico right you got chefs and [ __ ] and you fly private with me yeah that's it that's it bro that's it you got to you got get paychecks and [ __ ] y'all got to evict me that's not a bad idea honestly I think we talked about it let's make I was I'm H we had a conversation but I just can't I can't because I love you so much I need you but then I'll probably be more like need you y yeah I guarante and then we you would still have to like fly in once a week to to do the pods and it would be resentment and then I I'll go out like and I'll try to start shooting at y'all oh my God I guarantee I would be in the position I'm in if I if I had money and like had already made it like financially had [ __ ] I wouldn't have made it that's why people think I'm crazy but CC the other side of it is like boom right so I'm from com California same hey shout out my [ __ ] yeah man I was homeless for the first half of my life mom's a drug addict dad's a gang member I've never had anything in my life right and my whole life has been music I dropped out in ninth grade I was like I'm going to make music my dad kicks me out he's like you can't live under this roof like be more like your brothers my brothers are [ __ ] star students one got a full ride scholarship loser all all type of [ __ ] nerd ass [ __ ] all those [ __ ] are fat and unemploy now one dropped out of school a full rise scholarship and is just sitting at home right so boom from having nothing to like me saying I'm going to risk everything that I have in my life to become a music artist and it works I get to a certain place and I'm like damn I did exactly I hit a ceiling right so it's like now I had to recalibrate he got a big record deal and then and then like use I crashed out and became a m addict for four four days a week for 30 like 90 days oh it's not bad but then I moved cuz my homeboy was like you need to move and I was like nah [ __ ] that I made a million I ain't going to move I'm going to maintain this lifestyle I'm a junkie but I'm rich yep I crashed out and was like yeah I need to move lost 60 lbs went to Puerto Rico locked in recalibrated and now I'm ready to be but that's that's here's the problem we run into now is that you've recalibrated and now it's still it's been 6 months the album's supposed to be 6 months ago and we're still waiting for the album that's the problem and that's what you got to work on never too late though let's start it let's get because you're vitamin deficient right yeah yeah cuz like a lot of people can't think straight when they're vitamin deficient and all that a week ago kind of elaborated on that so yeah this isn't therapy um I got shout out Suzie right right huh Susie but she's hot is she not you think my therapist you guys got the same one I could pee and vape on this podcast I got to go pee go pee I could pee yeah I mean I think we I think we end the episode because uh let's wrap it up you can get W available at Walmart anyway if you walk into Walmart whether you with your mom your daddy you by yourself you go in that [ __ ] men body care aisle you buy that and comment down below what you thought of the episode for um us being brain fried over and uh jper but Buzz also comment cuz this coming out when the product releases comment your favorite scent and sent $10,000 right no I'm send you 1,000 I ain't got 10,000 for you but I'll send you 1,000 I'll send someone 10,000 he'll send you 10,000 I'll send you a th000 and I'm going through the comments for sure anyway good luck Charlie and if you got a test soon good luck on that [ __ ] that's what we [Music] do what are those 8 O gloves I want you to know they were talking up there he ain't going easy so be ready all right legit be ready buddy I'm using these bags don't show Too Much don't show we're boxing we're boxing I don't I do that on accident sometimes just know that that might come up just keep your hands up I'm just saying I might throw that up I haven't knocked someone out in a while just cuz my last fight didn't go off it went off five rounds I've been like craving just putting someone's lights out lately it's weird versus your boy better Derek I I hope Sean isn't nice and just [ __ ] him up that's your that's your trainee [ __ ] D all righty folks welcome to your main event of the evening starting out first in the loser corner you have better day with a record of no wins no losses I beat ste's [ __ ] out no anything he is 5'7 120 lbs lost in the mile to better JoJo but he's still delusional in his fighting career and to my left in the winning Corner sponsored by W sugar sha Ali The Undefeated UFC champion of the world it's time to fight bring it to the center we already spoke about the rules in the locker room beforehand give me your glove give me your hand touch gloves I want a clean fair fight no no hits below the waist back to your Corners time you ready judge you ready and fight [Music] [Applause] I'm out of balance or something oh do Dodge that [ __ ] hold on hold on hold on hold [ __ ] come on come on just oh my God one back of the head no no no back of the head four ref didn't see it five six me in the eyes Walk This Way Walk This Way for me he's running Walk This Way for me my car run all right and we're in in that right that's called all right time time time one two that was a that was a slip four up six bro Rizo what the [ __ ] are you doing all right get up SLP all right come on time in come on got come on got you [ __ ] black I'm going to I need to work I need to see some work black UT D somebody said 10 seconds like 8 seconds ago all right great back to your corner back to your corner back to your corner stay in there you're doing good right now this feel good I feel good do you see that one I landed clean on his face I think we all terrible shut the [ __ ] up for once in your [ __ ] life shut the [ __ ] up Sean's doing half punches on him shut up I'll act like uh no don't act like bro I'm just I'm putting in work all right how this how you when you [ __ ] beat the old wash UFC fighters everybody comments you're fighting old was UFC fighters what do you think 10s I think they're right in in round two round two round two oh got him [ __ ] oh [Music] [ __ ] hey put that hey that that's a that's going to be a 10 count can't get me by the that's going to be a 10 count that's going to be a 10 count next time back in the just there going to be a 10 count next time get in there give me real quick get him with some you thank you perfect okay BL I'm going to need to see some more one two back to your corner white Corner neutral Corner 5 6 seven eight n look at me thank you bro come on you want to fight do you want to fight when I do you want to fight yes yeah wait wait time back in wake up time time time time time I promise okay it's to the floor the rules of transfer to MMA tap tap tap he's St he's T he's ta all right I block out all right you're good to go wait wait the fight was over get the [ __ ] out of the ring oh it's over it's over it's over it's over go you got it's over it's over it's over [Music]	now is because Ryan G is a superstar so people are freaking out but it happens to a lot of athletes I just before we move past it I just on that Superstar topic how is that is that Superstar factor that that someone like you has someone like Ryan has someone like Connor has is it something you're born with or is it is it a practice is it something you can learn and do you sit back and like think like oh how can I go viral today how can I I think it's both I think you have to want to be a superstar there's some guys in the UFC like I want to make more money I want this I want that but they don't really want to be a superstar you you got to want it you got to you got to have some kind of vision a long time before well and and also like who you are as a person you have to have that like Fire Within still though like before you got into want famous I want to be in the NFL I want to be NBA I wanted to be a [ __ ] athlete when I was young was instilled I was just for whatever reason I wanted to make it when I was young I'm from H in Montana like small ass can I ask you something what's your opinion on like the take b nickel takes like	8	6	4	now is because Ryan G is a superstar so people are freaking out but it happens to a lot of athletes I just before we move past it I just on that Superstar topic how is that is that Superstar factor that that someone like you has someone like Ryan has someone like Connor has is it something you're born with or is it is it a practice is it something you can learn and do you sit back and like think like oh how can I go viral today how can I	I think it's both I think you have to want to be a superstar there's some guys in the UFC like I want to make more money I want this I want that but they don't really want to be a superstar you you got to want it you got to you got to have some kind of vision a long time before well and and also like who you are as a person you have to have that like Fire Within still though like before you got into want famous I want to be in the NFL I want to be NBA I wanted to be a [ __ ] athlete when I was young was instilled I was just for whatever reason I wanted to make it when I was young I'm from H in Montana like small ass	2,5,3	7,6,8	2	5	3	7	6	8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXPZ1KzdpsY	4,103	mXPZ1KzdpsY	2024-06-20 00:00:00	well well well ladies and gentlemen do we have a special episode for you today none other than sugar Shan om Ali the current UFC bantamweight champion a legend in his own right this episode was off the cusp we were a little turned up Jasper was really really drunk so we weren't really prepared for this at all the conversations definitely got wild and obviously as you guys have seen over maybe the past week or so we launched a new company called w am men's carine in Walmart this company is so near and dear to my heart and I partnered with Shawn to bring this Vision to life amongst other celebrities artists and athletes that we are announcing over the next couple of weeks here get your w at Walmart it is very very very very very good stuff and yes you heard the news I am fighting Mike Perry on July 20th it is going down I'm still fighting Mike Tyson November 15th that is happening but I'm staying active knocking out Mike Perry on July 20th and I'm excited for y'all to listen to this episode and he the vision of w how it all came together and how Shawn got involved and then everything to do with Shawn's career this podcast has been a long time coming but prepare yourself for some idiocracy per usual uh this is [ __ ] with Jake Paul we have a secret handshake check it out AC let me get that stop playing mean yeah we created that because we actually have so many things to get into here this has been a long time coming Jasper did bring up something and the reason W was created was because the other products in the category had harmful dyes parabens sulfates hormone disruptors and so we wanted to create the better for you vitamin infused product and and Sean's a co-owner just signed today yesterday for the show but we we'll get into all of that we we've been you know bringing sea on for like we've been talking for like a month and a half yes sir yes sir um it is currently May we've been doing a lot of shoots this podcast will probably come out at post W launch you can get I'm so drunk I'm sorry y'all you can get it in uh Walmart every Walmart you in Paca Walmart get it in you in Pensacola it's in Walmart in Kentucky Walmart Walmart so basically uh we we brought in the greatest people in the world to help build W and Sean is one of those people but dialing everything back we will get into the company the body washes how this all came about but uh we've been wanting to do this podcast and thanks for joining us BR hey guys hey thanks for joining us right did you uh yeah I did you sh for an hour bro did you did you do do we know do we set the stage of the day and the fact that Jasper's slash right now okay cool y drunk is a [ __ ] y like double drunk yep yep yep you drunk yeah all that so um but just winding everything back uh I think we've been friends for a long time in fact you were the first guest on this show oh [ __ ] crazy Zoom crazy that's right that's right that's right the first ever episode you zoomed in and that's crazy we're thankful we're thankful for our friendship and it's pretty cool that now we're here again today uh getting less views than before and that's fire that's it congratulations less views we're not we're not it was it was a joke it was a joke if you watching this please like and comment cuz we falling off right now but man by the time this comes out you're going to be getting ready for me RAB how do you say his name I don't remember morab is iTab or or I don't know me that's got to be it me but you got to say it with the emphasis look meab mirab meab meab there you go there you go so yeah I should be getting ready hopefully I ain't got nothing scheduled hopefully uh you know Uncle Dana will call me say hey buddy you want to fight in in here and there and there and then I'm d b boom and that that's how that works what's up with everybody on your body though everybody talking [ __ ] even people youat I wanted to bring up yeah and he's like saying like he's trying to post about you even yesterday it is weird but when you concuss someone you know what I just say they don't think as well as they used to so I think he's still concussed and he's a little confused because he's talking [ __ ] still he not in his right mind because I can just throw up another post go because it's a throwback Thursday it's a throwback Friday do you think do you think people don't respect you enough cuz I I see that as your friend an unbiased like they just see social media and podcasts and the the hair and stuff like that and then they just sh week but I [ __ ] with you I appr that um I don't think it is well you can't you know I think it's fine I think you're jealous I ain't going to lie I got some inches under here let's smell that hair you can smell my [ __ ] must who I do think I feel a little bit disrespected as the champ but I think that last fight against Che kind of you know shut a little bit of people up canny go five rounds Cheeto beat me before the Alo fight um shut a lot of people up canny grapple didn't have to Grapple cuz he couldn't take me down yeah Alo couldn't take you down I think that was the biggest thing where they were like yo that's his weakness like yeah wrestle him down and then he just proved everyone wrong that's what's so interesting about this morab fight is he's supposedly well he is he's [ __ ] good at wrestling he's really really good at wrestling he's boring as [ __ ] and no one will there won't be one comment saying yeah right he's actually kind of fun not one person I'm com won I'm com you can I ask you something would you put yourself in your own top five Strikers in the UFC oh I'm yeah yo easily who's your Mount Rushmore strikker well I I mean I would unbiasedly I would put him as number one because adna is in like top three but he also like got beat by put that [ __ ] down boy he did uh bro I'm up there I'm up there Max is really good Max super his striking that's a good top five there that's four me Max Elia adaga uh I'm sure I'm missing some your with a one would it be that's that's a minus one Mount rmore is four yeah but I only got four but if you throw the five in it's a plus one isn't there only four yeah but but you ready to throw the five up I'm four all right that's my more but yeah once again uh this is a [ __ ] ass podcast so we apologize hey but something something you just touched on you talked about Fighters being fun and interesting how much and you're you're a superstar how much of you being a superstar how much of any fighter being a superstar comes down to them being fun and interesting as you are and how much of it comes down to their actual fighting good question uh well who's a super who who obviously Connor comes to mind I think he's he's a character he's fun he's interesting who else comes to mind is like a superstar I would say Izzy gives that off I think he's an interesting guy other than that there's not like a ton of fun like Ryan Garcia is doing a really good job right now of being [ __ ] interesting being a character uh I think that's fentel I think it's drugs as well I wouldn't deny that but he's still making people interested in Ryan versus Devon Haney was an interesting fight not because Devon Haney that dude's boring as [ __ ] you think he did them roids no I don't think Ryan did I think Devon needs to take that L he being a [ __ ] about I think the craziest [ __ ] you said to me and like I don't even know if we want to put this in there or bring it up but we we can always remove it but uh because of your your situation with the ostarine and you said to me like and it I like fully felt your energy you're like I swear on my daughter's life I never did that and you got popped for it yeah same thing happened uh to Ryan right now he popped for aost the low super low level a some [ __ ] like a trillionth of a gr the same thing happened to me uh so when that came out with Ryan like I truly truly didn't believe he took anything because it was the same [ __ ] and it happens to a lot of [ __ ] ostarine happens to how does that happen it's called the tainted supplement so if you're taking anything that has protein in it that's not third party tested uh could not just protein any kind of supplement that's not third party tested it's either NSF or there's a bunch of different third party tests but if you're not if you're taking something that doesn't have that there's chances there could be something in it but austram people pop for that all the time my case was not that big of a deal cuz I wasn't as huge of a star as I am now but it still was like a big deal because of my name the reason it's going so crazy right now is because Ryan G is a superstar so people are freaking out but it happens to a lot of athletes I just before we move past it I just on that Superstar topic how is that is that Superstar factor that that someone like you has someone like Ryan has someone like Connor has is it something you're born with or is it is it a practice is it something you can learn and do you sit back and like think like oh how can I go viral today how can I I think it's both I think you have to want to be a superstar there's some guys in the UFC like I want to make more money I want this I want that but they don't really want to be a superstar you you got to want it you got to you got to have some kind of vision a long time before well and and also like who you are as a person you have to have that like Fire Within still though like before you got into want famous I want to be in the NFL I want to be NBA I wanted to be a [ __ ] athlete when I was young was instilled I was just for whatever reason I wanted to make it when I was young I'm from H in Montana like small ass can I ask you something what's your opinion on like the take b nickel takes like where he's like super friendly and humble and like I think he's a sweet ass [ __ ] they love him but like bro that [ __ ] pisses me off I think that [ __ ] is cool too n like you're a hum like [ __ ] talk your [ __ ] you're what 670 like bro talk your [ __ ] like it it kind of bores me no I get yeah I mean that's that's some people's opinion is like he's too nice too humble too that but he's being himself um but he's also super young in the sport I think he and he's still pretty what is he 28 you're in a sport of War if I was playing like [ __ ] Cricket I would be like yeah like but that's that's the thing is for for for a character like him what it seems like is that's what he's in is the sport of war and that's it he's not in the sport of entertainment he's a nice ass sweetheart get there is some people that that understand both sides of things but I also have respect for and I see when someone's that's strictly in the sport of if I play chess with you I'm going to be like good game and I'm going to shake your hand I talk [ __ ] be F ass to a PO it I'm going to be like [ __ ] you you need to get better at whatever you're doing dial dialing it back a little bit um to the aost stream thing I think it's like what do you think about Conor tweeting still at like 3:00 a.m. like coked out he he he he sent shots at me and Ryan talking [ __ ] but it's it's crazy coming from Connor who literally got out of the usada pool to do steroid like legit steroids so it's kind of wild and I was the biggest Connor fan for a long time in the last couple weeks ever since he sent that wasn't even a couple weeks ago probably a week ago I've been trying to hate him I've been trying to be like [ __ ] you Connor but I can't I love Connor I it's like I am excited for his fight coming up I'm excited I want you know I'm all about it what's the fight is it Chandler Chandler in June it's going to be big they just been trying to do it for a long time so I didn't know if it still still I think officially I think it's I think I think the craziest part about it is what like eight weeks before a fight that he's still like coked and drunk out of his mind who you got though who that's a good it is crazy that he still like he tweeted that deleted like 20 minutes later he was definitely [ __ ] up on well that's what I was going to say we can't just Grace past that do you is that that's a that's a bold thing to say do you you know he's on coke is that a is that are you [ __ ] gills I don't know anything but I know for certain that he's brother like look at the time of the tweets and look at what he's saying like also and he's like known for this simar tweets yeah yeah I don't know just manic brother I think he is I do think Ryan is I think he when he said he was playing into it a little bit I I think he's kind of using that I think he's [ __ ] crazy what what what would happen if you and Ryan boxed that's I mean there's only one way to find out he has a lot better chances of beating me in a boxing match than he does in a real fight keep up I do I I [ __ ] I truly believe in myself that's how I got to the [ __ ] position I'm in right now I can box I can throw hands um I don't think it'd be easy by any means I do think it's possible I beat him I'm not saying my my odds are great but I do believe I could beat Ryan Bo if there was anybody you could box for your first boxing match debut who are you Bo give an easy fight give me Deon Haney you give [Laughter] me honest answer uh I mean if we're I I would say Floyd if I Pi if I could sit here and pick who I box first boxing fight I pick Floyd because it would be the biggest most crazy most legendary fight maybe not most legendary some people for me okay but outside of that on a skill based level oh I I could hang with some good [ __ ] pro boxers I'm undefeated in boxing you think you think if you and uh ilot boxed that' be ilot is very very [ __ ] skilled boxing that's an interesting question so who what what professional boxer would you equate your PA Mike Tyson I know of Devon Haney now because Ryan Garcia beat him uh dvon Davis he's really short I know him um maybe smacking [ __ ] up though he does he that little guy he can't he can't ride roll coasters though that is true so there's a there's a tradeoff like Cruz fight he was riding a roller coaster no like I'm talking about like at the fair oh no you know like there there's a trade-off in life you know where things get weird it's like it's like yo he's really good but you can't even just hit Dante fan brother can't even ride the top not a Dante fan that's not what I'm wait what did what did I say to say I'm not a you didn't say I mean I don't think he knows that it's a short joke I don't think he picked up on you want me tell him I was joking shut the [ __ ] up I get I say that was a joke I'm what are you trying to say I'm but are you trying to insinuate that I'm short no honestly you're probably what five you're 5'9 you're like 5' seven and a half stop doing stop doing it stop doing that cuz [ __ ] is going to see this and be like he's 5'6 actually if you watching this and you think I'm 5'6 and you want to try me in person please any [ __ ] who see me out I'm punching your [ __ ] out I'm like 5'9 on a good day when when I'm lying to women I'm 5'10 for sure who's gonna ID me I'm wearing forces I'm a [ __ ] liar all right so now for the truth jakee he's like what like he's 5 No but don't do that bro all right all right we won't we'll cut that out like yeah n don't cut it out n don't see me and see these but you know dvon is 5'5 legit that's cool bro I know but is that not short just be honest is that five five short for a grown man for a grown man is that short you can be a fan I'm not I'm a fan of javante and he's five that's a little little bro all right the joke went over his head anyways so the short joke [ __ ] is trying to play me like I'm short no no no we're we're not we're not you're [ __ ] tall all right let's pivot yeah so um SI yeah sh shout out to the shout out to the pivot but but yeah like Jasper's a little riled up things are on edge he's a little he's a little turned up it's been a long day a long two days we've been shooting uh because we have a new [ __ ] company did we say we talk about that yet I we said in the beginning raise your arms up [ __ ] goed [ __ ] goed shout out to w a fun few days it's been a fun few days days you're going to see the content rolling out um but you speaking of but Ruby Rose did a good job oh my God I wanted to bite that M listen anyway if you're near wmart if you're watching this right now I don't give a [ __ ] what you're doing you could be taking care of your kid you could be taking care of your elderly parents [ __ ] them go to Walmart June 1st Nationwide I don't care if you in Pensacola you in Massachusetts all in places that sound [ __ ] stupid there's a Walmart there and you go there it's a better for you product vitamin ifuse number [ __ ] one yeah no basically I I think dialing back like the business story of it because you're also like a very smart businessman intellectual doing everything you do in and outside of the Ring which a lot of people don't have which contributes to you being uh the biggest in my opinion the biggest UFC star um but yeah we we basically I guess this is the podcast where we tell people where W came from but um we started building this company like a year and a half ago and really saw how all these other companies like as we move into better for you products and less harmful products we saw how the leaders in the space didn't have the best formulas didn't have the best manufacturing had all of these harmful substances in it and we're also brands from when I was like 9 years old I don't want to list names but they're still like having all the Shelf space in stores and I was just like this is wild like this is boring this is lame the the the we need something new we need something that's better uh males have vitamin uh deficiencies like crazy especially with magnesium Jasper just can't get enough of it uh especially with magnesium um and biotin is in the body wash uh vitamin E one two of the best vitamins for your skin and hair um but as The Story Goes long story short we we come up with this brand that represents so many things um but I think winning in everyday life whether you're the valedictorian whether you are the high school jock whether you're philanthropist now you have a product that you can embody and wear every single day that's increasing your vitamin intake that is less harmful to you that's where the idea came from and just being the winning formula in category uh went to Walmart pitched them the whole idea they [ __ ] loved it helped us build the brand even and come up with the scent profiles and all the things that are the the most popular um and this has been something I've wanted to do for so long we had to bring in the best people to be a part of it the winners in their category and that's number one Numero Uno sha Ali here um and he instantly saw the vision and already in the past couple of days it's been like super fun filming all the content behind yeah I was pumped when you [ __ ] called me appreciate you thinking of me and uh excited to help grow this business [ __ ] it's needed it's needed we're going to take over the whole bathroom you know tooed if you [ __ ] with the dogs and cows and chickens dog in you I know what I got that dog in me and I use it so be dog free baby am I missing anything with that no I think that was great the one the one thing I would touch on and you did in a way but it's it is body wash it is body spray it is deodorant but it also is there's an ethos that stands behind this brand which is the ethos that you stand for and it's the ethos that you stand for and the ethos that you stand for and the one that I stand for if I say ethos again I'm GNA start stumbling over my words but it's it's it's like you said it it doesn't the winners in life aren't just you you're on a big stage in life you're you're you're crushing it in every aspect financially you're a star you're leading your sport that's awesome on every [ __ ] level it's it's an encouragement to to young men all around the world to [ __ ] get up off their ass and get sh it don't matter if you score high on a test you whatever the [ __ ] it is that you do well maybe not so it matters what the [ __ ] you do but it also doesn't matter what the [ __ ] you do anybody is a winner as long as you put in the work and you have the will to win and I love it I I would say that's wrong I would say that not anybody is a winner and I think that's something that the brand also stands for like you really got to win you got to as you have the will to win no I'm just saying I think that's an important point cuz we live in a world today where a lot of people think everybody can be a winner that's not true if you Los you might be a loser and if you're a loser the good news is there's a hidden l in the logo actually we'll trace it for you with our graphic design team there's a hidden l in the logo because and I I I wanted to make sure that was was a thing because the biggest loss of my life turned out to be the biggest W in my life and I always had the saying like two L's make a w and when I lost to Tommy Fury it was embarrassing all these things but I realized I wasn't focused I wasn't as locked in as I could be the team around me from a boxing standpoint wasn't good I was having personal issues with relationships and all of these things that I had to shed and grow from and I grew into this new and completely different person but I wouldn't have done that if I didn't lose on the biggest stage possible and I think that was part of the ethos ethos ethos ethos of the brand was to encourage people that in their lowest moments to turn those into into their biggest W's eventually when Jake just said that the biggest loss of his life ended up being the biggest W of his life you said same yeah yeah same what what was that story for supposedly lost for lost to Cheeto back in 2020 August it it was I mean it sucked at the time but I it didn't suck too bad because I was like okay I didn't lose because I you know and it was different I wasn't I mean I was focused everything went good training camp everything was good but I was like that sucks I'm goingon to get that back someday when the time is right and then my last fight two two months ago in Miami headline I'm the champ defending my belt against that same guy how rewarding was that three and a half years later August three and a half years later boom beat his ass as a fan of yours it made it so sweet because of all the doubters that constantly like put you down and didn't believe in you and said he was going to destroy you and then you he literally like you embarrass him that was a performance of a life you embarrassed the [ __ ] out of him and I think that's literally a prime example of turning l l into into a w and I really that's what that's where the hidden l in the brand in the logo is um and representing that every single day when you see these products in your bathroom and when we say we have a saying it's not just a product it's a lifestyle absolutely trademarked Incorporated All Rights Reserved 2024 brother uh but but yeah man it's it's an honor to have you a part of this and uh we we really made what we think are the best products on the market from the body wash being exfoliating vitamin infused to the body spray what we found out is a lot of these fragrances like you get like these high-end designer brands that have like $500 colognes turns out it only cost them a dollar to make that and they're literally making like $499 on top of that so we had a fine fragrance house is what these places are called and we got the super expensive scents and gave it to people to what they're worth like we're not trying to these products are super super affordable and I think it's so funny because that's the world we live in where like you just label something and get like a European girl to go this is one of the lower priced men's care products on the market yeah if I'm not mistaken and it's it's the $500 fragrance in the affordable bottle because we want everyone we've been using a body wash in the past two days since we got the samples after the shoot and I personally want to say I got the in there you could bleep it out whatever you want to do W's winning n b genuinely that's that's the saying is the it's winning formula cuz it really is like it really is if if we're going to call our company [ __ ] W it has to be the best we the winners winning product indeed indeed winning customers all that type of [ __ ] indeed better Derek today he's just got a punch I'm not Li I talked to him before he left he wants to punch you up bro he's got a punchable face I like him though it's weird it's like God I like that guy but I want [ __ ] KO pick him up and like it's okay boom one more to the liing me earlier and I'm just letting you know don't shoot the messenger on God he said he wants to get in the ring with you I can call him really he oh yeah he he you want to call him yeah where is he at is wait uh no call no call he's coming up oh um he's talking smack he said he actually wants a spar I swear to God he said he wants to get percentage should I go you guys I literally out let that's crazy timeing saying talk [ __ ] to my face if you're going to talk [ __ ] that's crazy timing what were you saying they were telling me you want to get in the ring and Spar bit or they didn't say Spar they said fight yeah I'm down to do either but uh yeah no I'm just sick of the [ __ ] [ __ ] you've been saying on your podcast uh you called me you made fun of my weight and you called me gay I did not no I well okay okay you said that he wouldn't ever say that what you got to say what your chest that's what I just [ __ ] said bro I he was like oh if I if stand on it you talking to him you talking to him you ain't talking to me my assistant Sono would would piece you he's never boxed a day he never I'm here to fight your video I'm here to fight you what did I what was the first thing I said to you when when I saw you what was the first thing I said to you that we could fight no I said you look thick wait but when we were talking earlier weren't you saying he's a [ __ ] and you wanted to get a ring with him and all type [ __ ] what I'm saying right now say it then I just said the [ __ ] ring so we can after this we have a ring 2 feet away and he's a [ __ ] and whatever else you was saying to me yeah he's [ __ ] what about my hair say something about my hair I I already said that at the W shoot that you look like you haven't showered in [ __ ] a week okay all right d hey buddy hey hey what's your long-term play not no but see you guys you guys are making me seem crazy you're out of your mind he Derek Dereck go warm up hit the hit the heavy back H the warm up is almost listen legendary as send location dble PIV go warm up hey hey double pivot sit sit I'm not [ __ ] no I I'll sit and talk but I'm not [ __ ] no sit on the floor walk you want to take my seat hey how much how much of what's going on ch ch how much of what's going on is is a character versus like actual delusion how much is a character yeah decent uh I would say there are times where I know what I have to do for my boxing career to like like we all why is he laughing cuz you said career I beat your [ __ ] boy your [ __ ] [ __ ] bro you know what I I recall you did beat I recall calling steiny saying what the [ __ ] was that buddy I love steiny but I do remember watching that and thinking I wasn't proud of that I was not proud of that from steiny and I wish I wish he would come to the gym I wish he'd get in there I wish he'd train a little bit and I wish he would have a rematch but that's on him I've been trying to get the rematch but he's been ding me do you think Derek won he said I won I thought I thought he won I'd have to rewatch but I do think I come on baby the comments have [ __ ] dragged me for months after that [ __ ] 99% of the comments say I lost so please say it one more time Sean no I said it what I said it's like therapy or something no but to answer your question uh we all know uh uh as Fighters there's a side of promotion stop [ __ ] first of all Gus shut the [ __ ] up our our audio guys uh like can't stop laughing is that the facial his facial hair or is what he's saying bro that's bold of you to talk facial hair bro that's bold of you to I'm not Li you look dirty you look like Jeffrey done training right Jesus I train every day but anyway we know like there's two sides of of promotion as well as the actual athletic competition that is Combat Sports so there are times where I might play up a little bit like hey promoting but let him go let him go all right if you if all if you think I'm all promoting that I'll see you in the [ __ ] ring and I'll knock both you either of you out well um well Jake's a [ __ ] fat [ __ ] right now he weighs like 240 so I got I goty I gotta pick my words wisely like he's Jake's 240 I I know I know but like I'm not going to sit here and pick a fight against somebody that's 240 when I'm se's my weight class when I stopped you in one round like just like but when I was getting started out of come this is where I'm at since then I told him he could have somebody tag team I'm down I'm down to fight anybody in this [ __ ] room not one person in this room I'm the best part about this is like uh right after this we I think you're you're down to do like one round or three minutes right I mean I'd prefer 12 but we okay yeah 12 I mean that my biggest advantage in the ring ring is my cardio I do 12 12 okay so no I have a genuine question so five round I'm not I'm not one have I ever said I'm a UFC fighter no I'm just say we can box I'm just saying that's I'm used to five you want to do three we could do that aren't you trying to be a boxer with your [ __ ] Ryan Garcia call he would knock knock your [ __ ] ass out so quickly it wouldn't be close I'm one and0 pro boxing what are you actually I saw that video I saw video I'm also want to know thank you officially hey they count that's real commiss but uh I didn't mean I didn't mean to take I didn't mean to take over the pot I just wanted to a couple you definitely didn't yeah okay I try I'm trying to help you no we love you go warm up yeah yeah go warm up the bags don't warm up too much though don't get tired how much do you wa right now without Timberlands and jean shorts on high 120 low 13 no without lying though okay that [ __ ] is you think you got you got him one round I think I could beat him I think I can beat him I I think I could handicap myself to three just put on one glove I could do that what do you think actually happens now when you go downstairs and he gets in that ring like what's his plan that's what I don't get about him but that's why it's that's do me a favor that's why he's Cloud it up because love [ __ ] up [ __ ] he's going he's going to try to Yap he's going to try to talk please just go 100% yeah no actually actually please go 100% if he signs a consent form we'll have him no we've already got like multiple consent forms for better media with like death wavers [ __ ] no no no but he needs it he needs that I'll go like 40 no go like 75 Sean I'm I'm going to be honest bro don't even go 20% he's the nice [ __ ] bro don't do that bro you want him to go 100% no no to be honest but just like work with him and then just like maybe just just like a really good punching and then he'll give up 75% uh I'm nervous man I'm shaking for Derek yeah yeah that's good I understand that there a couple flinches if you Flinch hard enough the the wind coming off you will put him down let him walk you down and bait him boom sleeping what's your next upcoming fight a maraba jaaba and when is that uh not nothing yet I'm hoping for September maybe October maybe November maybe December I'm F ready to go baby what if it was next month I wouldn't be ready to go I like I like 10 to 12 weeks 10 to 12 he likes eight I mean I I normally do like 10 yeah just like but I've been super the first few weeks are [ __ ] pre-amps this Camp I'm channeling my Ryan Garcia would you ever do a Ryan Garcia regiment during Camp drink and smoke every night you do a little I I probably yeah I'm not actually doing that for the people out there he's locked in clocked in locked in locked in ready to go yeah May 20th we start but by the time the people see this it'll be uh June or something like that that is crazy you're fighting Mike that you fought Ben asran wrestler good good [ __ ] UFC was really good UF bit Tyron Woodley twice Anderson Silva knockout of the year with Nate Robinson can't forget about deji deji the the the goat do we say Gibb or is that like that's just crazy resume like literally [ __ ] C by way thank you Gib cuz we had a really good party after he knocked you the [ __ ] out who W we're skipping two professional boxers this always no no the recent ones this always happens I'm trying to just think cuz two cuz this is what everybody asked for this is what everybody asked for who who are the two professional boxers you fighted you got to name them Andre August and Ryan Borland go okay people don't people are like fight a pro boxer and then I do and then they're like that was boring as a man of combat he what were 10 and one nine and one nine and one what is your take on his [ __ ] all of his fights and who he's fighting in the competition dude I've been excited as [ __ ] since I started I remember you I remember the first time I watched was the Nate Robinson I watched that one at home and then uh I don't remember what it was after that but I remember watching Ben Asam in Atlanta I think that was the first time we actually met was right after the fight I think we hugged I was like y I picked you up you carried me back to the locker room that it was love at first sight that was crazy actually yeah actually I [ __ ] with him we became best friends like a couple days later you going to leave me hanging no no I would it's my eyebrow but uh yeah no I think he's obviously super skilled I think it's and I I it's inspired me even in the position I'm at UFC World Champ sexy you know what I mean like tall dark handsome TR inspired me just business the business uh side of things that you've done I've always thought putting on massive fight that's why I'm such a huge Conor fan cuz the pay-per-views he's done is so [ __ ] he's been fighting for four years and [ __ ] that he's been doing the massive fights the fights I get excited for there's a few UFC fights the high the big big fights that I get excited for but every time you fought even when uh Logan fought Floyd I was [ __ ] like excited like all fight week so i' I've been inspired from what you've done from a business side from the boxing side they even just start so not late but for a boxer but these boxers start when they're [ __ ] three four years old like Ryan and tank like they're young buck the Tik Tac I sent you of Devon Haney's debut fight yeah it's wild he was fighting a five foot Mexican in a in a bar was it Dante bro if I show you this [ __ ] oh no I did see that I did see that I did see that when you started even seeing that first video fighting Anderson Silva six fights in bro like do you know how insane that is he's one of the greatest correct me if I'm wrong UFC Strikers in history yeah 100% so does that make me one of the greatest UFC Strikers and one of the greatest wrestlers cuz wood but Ben ask was but Nate Diaz is ducking me in MMA oh am crazy I am weak that's a sick fight MMA I I wish it was that would happened right after the boxing same he's actually ducking it which is why it's crazy because he's not he's not in UFC no but we we upped it to 15 million damn that's crazy though that would be a I like Nate Diaz but that would be such a fun buildup he actually doesn't want to do it all Sean how do you genuinely Jake's not here it's me and you in a room actually how do you see that fight going for Jake what MMA him you're not here J for Nate in MMA keep it a bean God it's it's so hard to you're a big [ __ ] right now on what weight would it be5 185 I don't hate I don't I it's not a it's a winable fight for you I really do think that but Nate is so [ __ ] you would have to do what I did against aljo and morab do not let that [ __ ] grab you not that you can't wrestle cuz I know you can wrestle but once he starts grabbing you and doing Jiu-Jitsu if he gets on top his little he likes his little trips it would be hard for you to win I feel like if he if he started grappling just pure Jiu-Jitsu if it let's be real if it goes to the floor is he [ __ ] if he's on his back Nate's not like a super strong guy so if you learn how to like I mean I'm sure you know how to get up to a single legegg stuff like that but then you start getting your neck grabbed I don't know how much Jiu-Jitsu you know I mean Nate's a [ __ ] high Lev black belt um if you could keep it standing 100% there's winnable ways there if he if he went to the ground feel like he might be able to grab your neck no that that's exactly how I feel about it if I don't get guillotined yeah then I win the fight because even if he was on top take your back but even if he was on top of me I would just throw him off of me cuz he's also the weakest puncher I've ever fought like when he was hitting me I was I almost like started laughing I'm I'm not even saying this to talk [ __ ] out of everyone I've sparred in my whole entire life and everyone I fought his punches are even me we I don't think you ever landed a punch on me is that true well that's not true so I don't anyone no I'm literally not even talking [ __ ] which is why I think it's funny that he dropped Connor and [ __ ] cuz it's just like how Conor with like to the ground yeah like with a straight left hand yeah which is crazy like I I'm not just talking [ __ ] when I say that and I've told you I've literally told you this you told me this after the fight yeah I was like he is the weakest puncher I've ever fought in my life who's who's the weakest puncher you've ever you've ever come to face um there I mean there's been so many fights where I later didn't even get hit um uh does that like make you jaded at all when you get into a fight and you don't really get love that [ __ ] I prefer not to get hit at all but like if I was you and I wasn't get hit at all I'd probably work less no no no no I I know I don't get hit because I work that hard so if I didn't work hard I know I'd probably get hit I'm just a lazy [ __ ] so so here you are on top of the world we're launching [ __ ] W going to be a billion dollar business [ __ ] you I always forget uh UFC champ accomplishing all your goals what do you want next uh what are what is the threeyear fiveyear for Sean I I truly do want to get a boxing fight I'm not I'm not super set on that to where like I'm like going to be [ __ ] if it doesn't happen I do think it'll be interesting especially if I go out there knock morab out Ryan does his thing I think there's a [ __ ] sweet fight there if it doesn't happen not that worried about it want to go out there beat morab I'd like to you know if Max Max and Elia fight I would like to fight go move up to 45 fight the winner of that um you know maybe have three to five maybe have a few more kids definitely want another little baby I love kids my fite pump him out shout out to Danny who's your top pick in a boxing fight though if you if you could choose your Ryan now was like the I mean what he after dvon Beat Ryan I was like javante then Ryan goes out there does his thing really though I think Dante do you is that is that not a big [ __ ] leap Ryan like you said before he's been doing this his whole life one thing that's been proven is that the crossover it's it's not a good return Fury he did his thing okay the excep is the exception we've seen it with okay but then Anthony Joshua put his ass t was crazy super night night he was I'm I'm here for big fights like I wanted to get into the UFC and I wanted to make big fights watching Conor versus Floyd I'm like that [ __ ] happened really happened hey you versus Derek that could be as big as Connor in Floyd but no but I I think the craziest [ __ ] about Conor versus Floyd is that overall it was a W for everyone involved so there's certain fights where it just like doesn't matter what happens that's the world we live in yeah I mean UFC told me they said if the if the fight's big enough and it'll make the UFC money they'll do it what means more to you your your your record being pre or the amount of money you're making all right let me ask you something it's about to get real J's drunk Jasper's drunk as [ __ ] y record or money [ __ ] it depends the Gap like like the gap of money if it's like an extra 10 15 20 million but I lose a couple important fights probably not you just take like 150 million I'll be like like [ __ ] my record baby yeah it depends on the gap of money Jake Paul is not here right now just like a Mayweather Conor McGregor you taking that fight ver Jake yeah no he's my buddy I could I mean I don't I don't even no I no funny no there's you know what's funny is always in my Snapchat story once once a day pretty much someone says we knock out Jake Paul like there's every sing all the time for so long people just want to see me get [ __ ] is good though that's like the thing yeah but I'm sensitive it is funny though people [ __ ] love to hate confidence the craziest thing though actually about both of you like I met you very recently like I didn't realize you're as like normal as you are I don't know why I thought you violent like you guys are both like very goofy mellow and stupid and c and and awesome it's like the greatest thing ever like I couldn't believe when I met you you're like one of us like yeah I wouldn't think you're a [ __ ] yeah one of the coolest people in the world for sure yeah but not a lot of people uh can like I don't know we have like a weird it's hard toes Meat Heads I'm like this the this my dog I think it's a little bit of dark humor too it's like some [ __ ] up [ __ ] that we say off camera [ __ ] sometimes but I think it's like there's a certain yeah like that's how my whole group is back home it's like we all just we're all just kind of [ __ ] dumb I'm smart but like they're dumb well someone commented like yo Jake Paul's the dumbest genius in the world and I was just like I say that [ __ ] all the time you wed up the other day and I was like this is the most genius dumbass in the world no jokes Hey Brother chill buddy trying to get me cancelled no what how old are you 23 are you really yeah no you're not he's not is he what do you think think what did you think Oh no you're 267 27 what did you think he was I thought he was older I thought he was like 27 26 yeah a niggaer mature was that ladies you got a boo you got a girl you just be slanging she timeout right now I don't really talk about she don't time out it's a little tricky she not taking care of herself what do you guys think about Tom Brady R you watch it yeah they kept comp panning to you every 5 Seconds bro I swear there's a huge camer sitting there the whole time but it's cool to see Netflix going hard like that cuz they went hard they swing that meat around huha yeah let's pivot yeah just sorry about him I'm drunk man not yeah but but it was it was great it wasar they should have got rid of most of the football players going up there yeah there's a couple ones Ben afflac is that who that was on there that was wild that was so weird that was so weird it was cool to see how [ __ ] less sensitive people are becoming I feel like feel like it's recently like there's a big push back I think people got sick of it we went super super super PC for a long time people were like wait a second we like being able to say what we want to say I saw kill Tony say oh type of crazy [ __ ] on there that watch every [ __ ] Monday you were on kill Tony yeah how old are you actually buddy I'm a comedian Budd full time no yeah I was on that I was nervous as hell though I was like just being it's a live I do podcast once a week like me and Tim do our podcast every [ __ ] week but to be there in front of an audience live it's weird it's a different kind of well so you say Tim but let's let's talk about actually the fact that you get trained by by one of the greatest boxers of all time it's really that's something what's happened like that's crazy working with Canelo as your as your coach that's what I'm saying people don't going to be Ryan but like yeah that is true I never even thought about that for did you even know that this guy proba even know that that orange [ __ ] is nice wait will I get cancelled by the ginger community no you're black oh no my dad my dad's Ginger and I'm I'm like this [ __ ] is ginger bro he be shaving he be shaving his beard and I zoom in zoom in it's it's slightly orange so I'm a quarter ginger on South Park they made fun of Gingers and that [ __ ] made the news I [ __ ] with the ginger people but like y'all [ __ ] you like redhead girls oh yeah was Super Soaker but anyway yeah like y'all [ __ ] is orange and that's okay but back to you one of y'all that's not drunk I got a question cuz this guy clipped out a lot did Tim actually like you guys about him like saying to fight that was yeah that was real Tim always be talking [ __ ] to the like he's been doing that for so long so what happened he just talk I mean he just he Alo the knee's coming Alo you got to shoot Alo watch out for this like he's been saying that since I've been in the UFC like my debut vers terion where he was talking [ __ ] to terion too and uh he just does it every fight but this happened to just be crazy timing to like Tim you got Tim like alre you got to go and like literally he he like that's when he threw that left hand or whatever stepped into Southpaw and uh or stepped into Orthodox and got dropped it was it was funny the timing because he's like Al you got to go I don't I truly don't think that's why that's not why Alo went I bet you could I bet Alo didn't even hear that but Tim's always chirping and stuff but people on the internet are [ __ ] mad about that a lot of them actually like it I'll say majority of people are thinking that's the funniest [ __ ] ever there's a couple [ __ ] that are like you should be banned think it's a fight would you run the alra fight back or one and done never I like that why would I yeah am I supposed to top that you know what I'm saying I got love for Alo we had him on the show and he he seems like a good dude I actually don't mind Alo I does that ever happen where like you'll have a personal relationship with someone personal runin with them and it's all great but then now all of a sudden you have to fight each other I've never had I've not of running with someone that's been like uh more than like I've ran into aljo morab at the UFC I'm like hey what's up talk to him a little bit you know nothing no ill will um but I haven't had like a run with someone I actually lik them mhm and then at the fight them so you're not friends with any any other UFC fighters oh I have a there's there's a couple guys in my in my weight class that I train with at the lab that are like climbing the r uh ladders what happened with uh the 125 pounder I I don't even know his name and I'm not I'm just not like yeah what's his name I Alexander pania bro this story is actually kind of funny so 2016 I think it was it was like 3 and0 4 and0 and I was still fighting at like I fought at 125 not too long before that I fought at like 130 which is in a weight class was like so I wasn't like a 155 like I am now I was probably like 14 back then and uh Henry cejudo comes in I'm three or four and0 at the point at this point it comes in with this kid Alexander PTO just won The Ultimate Fighter I think he's got his UFC debut or it's his second UFC fight he's a couple weeks out from his fight I'm [ __ ] the night before me and Tim ripping bongs like hanging out being goofballs and [ __ ] so the next morning so we brought him in for sparring hry sudo brings in Alexander you're 4-0 he's King [ __ ] he he's just won The Ultimate Fighter and so they write the names on on the board who who you're sparring I'm like oh [ __ ] I got Alexander Pantoja versus me for one round one round he has three rounds so you write one one name then usually you you spar with one guy then they go out you spar with a fresh guy they go out spar with the fresh guy that's usually how it works so my name was just up there for one round that's it we Spar one round I didn't know anything about him cuz I I didn't really watch it like that 25 I don't really watch 25ers like that but somebody's like oh [ __ ] that's he a black belt he just won The Ultimate Fighter I was like oh [ __ ] I got to [ __ ] Focus up here first round boom Dro him with a liver kick and I wasn't going to post I record all my rounds I have so many sparring rounds like I wasn't going to post it was and for some reason I don't know why he would talk [ __ ] and bring it up cuz I literally I don't know you know know I don't know if you know how it works but you finish a guy the fight's over right no no did he um so I finished him the first round he hit him boom with the liver I posted the video yesterday and I've had it for a long time I didn't want to post it CU you don't post sparring like that but he just kept bringing it up so boom finished him first round um then uh after the first round round I go to walk out and Henry's over there crying box of Kleenex just like [ __ ] wiping his tears crying we want you for a second round so mad that this little like I was nobody just finished his dude he's in the UFC he's supposed to be the man finish him in the first round so Henry's crying saying he wants another round um so I piece him up again in the second round and I'm I'm dying at this point my lungs are burning I'm not in shape for fight I I'm nowhere near in Camp for a fight and I my lungs are hurting and uh Henry again crying blowing his nose and like I want you for a third and Benson comes in Benson Henderson absolute Legend comes in and was yelling cuz that's his it was the his gym the MMA lab we don't let people come in our gym and make us tired and blah blah blah and I'm [ __ ] just just huffing and puffing I just got done work in this dude for 10 minutes finished him in the first round did I say that liver kick um we'll put the footage I have the foot yeah it's right there insert the footage so third round come out boom piece him up again and he's so I don't know why he keeps bringing up this bringing this up in the media I think it's because people ask him but I don't know why he doesn't just say yeah yeah no no I don't want to talk about it he keeps saying like he's like oh I got in I found his range and [ __ ] I'm like bro you you stopped him in one round stopped him in round one and let him live and continue to fight for round two these delusional uh like wild people are weirdos but the reason I posted cuz he kept bringing it up exactly wait so is he the champ now at 125 yeah okay but why does he still want to talk [ __ ] to you if you got [ __ ] up that's what I'm saying I don't know either either you drop to 125 and get that no I can't drop to 125 that's too much now you're a thick [ __ ] I am a thick but yeah I SP I think it's important for up and cominging Spar uh fighters to record their rounds and watch their rounds not for that this reason you know but just to I've improve so much watching my sparring y I have thousands of rounds maybe not thousands hundreds of rounds from 10 years ago on my on my computer of uh it's like NFL team is watching footage the time [ __ ] 100% got to watch that [ __ ] that's I I have every single round recorded and and again I I don't post sparring either exactly you know put in a highlight video make a vlog boom we're sparring people but it's never like [ __ ] up your guy yeah exactly but Mike Perry honestly like what he's been doing is pretty Fu he went to Bare knuckle that [ __ ] just meant for him bare knuckle fighting it's crazy different going crazy he's doing good he's [ __ ] undefeated over there he's beating some really good guys stay over here [ __ ] [ __ ] only place that you should be getting tickets from is game time.co it's it's the only place I go it is the only place you can possibly go they have 110% price match guarantee that's what we use to get our tickets for the NBA Finals you can get $20 off your first order go to gametime.co JJ a $20 off your first order they're doing a deal specifically for y'all and you could see where your tickets are before you buy them seeing the seats they have all of the these great policies last 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platform there is Mike Paul versus Jake Tyson here's my official prediction tell us and even if even if it's against me like it's not it's not I do think you're going to beat Mike Tyson uh it's crazy that I even saying that out loud right now cuz you're fighting Mike Tyson it's [ __ ] crazy even just when we were walking down the the street today people all genders all ages knew you were fighting Mike Tyson it's such a massive fights live on Netflix which is [ __ ] crazy it's in a stadium which is [ __ ] crazy it is crazy I believe in you I see what you I see what you're doing I see you know that you believe in yourself Mike Tyson is uh hasn't fought in however long it's been so for him to just come up and get a fight be I I'm sure is going to be in as good a shape as he possibly could be in but it's just you know it's it's it's it's not his time right now I love Mike Tyson I never actually met him but I love Mike Tyson I do think Jake's gonna get the job done and I do think eight rounds eight two-minute rounds eight two-minute rounds I believe I believe you could put them away in the later rounds you know five six seven eight I do think you could put it put him down which is crazy to even [ __ ] think you rap yeah that's fire I'm just lazy and inconsistent that's not a w no that sh it is not you start using Brandon yell at him every day but cuz you can actually spit that's fire no but but people know him now from like podcasting they don't know he's a rapper and hurts his soul J sick name Lil jizz what J JZ that's good that's good you should switch your [ __ ] I switch my [ __ ] from come Master to kill Jas bro honestly though that's I think singing rapping spitting is one of the things that if I could switch talents be doing something like that that's good or twerking I ain't going to lie you shook that [ __ ] earlier I got a I got a thing on me you that [ __ ] wiggle a little bit let's let's pivot though cuz yep hit a pivot uh yeah do we have a speaker should we play Jasper's new song or something you got a new one I thought you were lazy some new [ __ ] go ahead play on your phone just put it in the speaker put it in the mic too this the [ __ ] I'm dropping when I'm Indie that sound decent I'm not rapping either I'm yapping that's not going to get you drunk yo I made this beat that's crazy I like the way you look I won't lie you got something I need you my with a fly girl like you doing with no guy a little sh don't really go outside I'm not crazy right place and right time you all smiles and pretty light brown [Music] [Music] like that better if I forget you but I just can't time saying do better and I'm sure you can find that guy that's worth all right cut it cut it cut it that's that's enough that's enough that's enough that's enough for real can't give the whole thing it's not out yet yeah hey good [ __ ] that's fire I'll be rapping though but that's some pop [ __ ] just cuz I can do it so why are you consistent cuz I'm lazy and jaded and and spoiled yeah it's unfortunate maam shout out to the homies for a lot of talented people out there that just are yeah don't smoke crack yo also there there is a parallel there don't do don't do that there's a parallel with the same thing he's talking about I think Fighters probably where it's like you could have all the talent in the world he's got that's why I get so [ __ ] mad at him it's cuz he has all the talent in the world really I get more pissed off than he gets and he could be a superstar but he just is lazy he doesn't put the work in he's not he's not strategic and it is hard when you got when you live in a crib in Puerto Rico right you got chefs and [ __ ] and you fly private with me yeah that's it that's it bro that's it you got to you got get paychecks and [ __ ] y'all got to evict me that's not a bad idea honestly I think we talked about it let's make I was I'm H we had a conversation but I just can't I can't because I love you so much I need you but then I'll probably be more like need you y yeah I guarante and then we you would still have to like fly in once a week to to do the pods and it would be resentment and then I I'll go out like and I'll try to start shooting at y'all oh my God I guarantee I would be in the position I'm in if I if I had money and like had already made it like financially had [ __ ] I wouldn't have made it that's why people think I'm crazy but CC the other side of it is like boom right so I'm from com California same hey shout out my [ __ ] yeah man I was homeless for the first half of my life mom's a drug addict dad's a gang member I've never had anything in my life right and my whole life has been music I dropped out in ninth grade I was like I'm going to make music my dad kicks me out he's like you can't live under this roof like be more like your brothers my brothers are [ __ ] star students one got a full ride scholarship loser all all type of [ __ ] nerd ass [ __ ] all those [ __ ] are fat and unemploy now one dropped out of school a full rise scholarship and is just sitting at home right so boom from having nothing to like me saying I'm going to risk everything that I have in my life to become a music artist and it works I get to a certain place and I'm like damn I did exactly I hit a ceiling right so it's like now I had to recalibrate he got a big record deal and then and then like use I crashed out and became a m addict for four four days a week for 30 like 90 days oh it's not bad but then I moved cuz my homeboy was like you need to move and I was like nah [ __ ] that I made a million I ain't going to move I'm going to maintain this lifestyle I'm a junkie but I'm rich yep I crashed out and was like yeah I need to move lost 60 lbs went to Puerto Rico locked in recalibrated and now I'm ready to be but that's that's here's the problem we run into now is that you've recalibrated and now it's still it's been 6 months the album's supposed to be 6 months ago and we're still waiting for the album that's the problem and that's what you got to work on never too late though let's start it let's get because you're vitamin deficient right yeah yeah cuz like a lot of people can't think straight when they're vitamin deficient and all that a week ago kind of elaborated on that so yeah this isn't therapy um I got shout out Suzie right right huh Susie but she's hot is she not you think my therapist you guys got the same one I could pee and vape on this podcast I got to go pee go pee I could pee yeah I mean I think we I think we end the episode because uh let's wrap it up you can get W available at Walmart anyway if you walk into Walmart whether you with your mom your daddy you by yourself you go in that [ __ ] men body care aisle you buy that and comment down below what you thought of the episode for um us being brain fried over and uh jper but Buzz also comment cuz this coming out when the product releases comment your favorite scent and sent $10,000 right no I'm send you 1,000 I ain't got 10,000 for you but I'll send you 1,000 I'll send someone 10,000 he'll send you 10,000 I'll send you a th000 and I'm going through the comments for sure anyway good luck Charlie and if you got a test soon good luck on that [ __ ] that's what we [Music] do what are those 8 O gloves I want you to know they were talking up there he ain't going easy so be ready all right legit be ready buddy I'm using these bags don't show Too Much don't show we're boxing we're boxing I don't I do that on accident sometimes just know that that might come up just keep your hands up I'm just saying I might throw that up I haven't knocked someone out in a while just cuz my last fight didn't go off it went off five rounds I've been like craving just putting someone's lights out lately it's weird versus your boy better Derek I I hope Sean isn't nice and just [ __ ] him up that's your that's your trainee [ __ ] D all righty folks welcome to your main event of the evening starting out first in the loser corner you have better day with a record of no wins no losses I beat ste's [ __ ] out no anything he is 5'7 120 lbs lost in the mile to better JoJo but he's still delusional in his fighting career and to my left in the winning Corner sponsored by W sugar sha Ali The Undefeated UFC champion of the world it's time to fight bring it to the center we already spoke about the rules in the locker room beforehand give me your glove give me your hand touch gloves I want a clean fair fight no no hits below the waist back to your Corners time you ready judge you ready and fight [Music] [Applause] I'm out of balance or something oh do Dodge that [ __ ] hold on hold on hold on hold [ __ ] come on come on just oh my God one back of the head no no no back of the head four ref didn't see it five six me in the eyes Walk This Way Walk This Way for me he's running Walk This Way for me my car run all right and we're in in that right that's called all right time time time one two that was a that was a slip four up six bro Rizo what the [ __ ] are you doing all right get up SLP all right come on time in come on got come on got you [ __ ] black I'm going to I need to work I need to see some work black UT D somebody said 10 seconds like 8 seconds ago all right great back to your corner back to your corner back to your corner stay in there you're doing good right now this feel good I feel good do you see that one I landed clean on his face I think we all terrible shut the [ __ ] up for once in your [ __ ] life shut the [ __ ] up Sean's doing half punches on him shut up I'll act like uh no don't act like bro I'm just I'm putting in work all right how this how you when you [ __ ] beat the old wash UFC fighters everybody comments you're fighting old was UFC fighters what do you think 10s I think they're right in in round two round two round two oh got him [ __ ] oh [Music] [ __ ] hey put that hey that that's a that's going to be a 10 count can't get me by the that's going to be a 10 count that's going to be a 10 count next time back in the just there going to be a 10 count next time get in there give me real quick get him with some you thank you perfect okay BL I'm going to need to see some more one two back to your corner white Corner neutral Corner 5 6 seven eight n look at me thank you bro come on you want to fight do you want to fight when I do you want to fight yes yeah wait wait time back in wake up time time time time time I promise okay it's to the floor the rules of transfer to MMA tap tap tap he's St he's T he's ta all right I block out all right you're good to go wait wait the fight was over get the [ __ ] out of the ring oh it's over it's over it's over it's over go you got it's over it's over it's over [Music]	to get better at whatever you're doing dial dialing it back a little bit um to the aost stream thing I think it's like what do you think about Conor tweeting still at like 3:00 a.m. like coked out he he he he sent shots at me and Ryan talking [ __ ] but it's it's crazy coming from Connor who literally got out of the usada pool to do steroid like legit steroids so it's kind of wild and I was the biggest Connor fan for a long time in the last couple weeks ever since he sent that wasn't even a couple weeks ago probably a week ago I've been trying to hate him I've been trying to be like [ __ ] you Connor but I can't I love Connor I it's like I am excited for his fight coming up I'm excited I want you know I'm all about it what's the fight is it Chandler Chandler in June it's going to be big they just been trying to do it for a long time so I didn't know if it still still I think officially I think it's I think I think the craziest part about it is what like eight weeks before a fight that he's still like coked and drunk out of his mind who you got though who that's a good it is crazy that he still like he tweeted that deleted like 20 minutes later he was definitely [ __ ]	8	6	4	to get better at whatever you're doing dial dialing it back a little bit um to the aost stream thing I think it's like what do you think about Conor tweeting still at like 3:00 a.m. like coked out he he he he sent shots at me and Ryan talking [ __ ] but it's it's crazy coming from Connor who literally got out of the usada pool to do steroid like legit steroids so it's kind of wild and I was the biggest Connor fan for a long time in the last couple weeks ever since he sent that wasn't even a couple weeks ago probably a week ago I've been trying to hate him I've been trying to be like [ __ ] you Connor but I can't I love Connor I it's like I am excited for his fight coming up I'm excited I want you know I'm all about it what's the fight is it Chandler Chandler in June it's going to be big they just been trying to do it for a long time so I didn't know if it still still I think officially I think it's I think I think the craziest part about it is what like eight weeks before a fight that he's still like coked and drunk out of his mind who you got though who that's a good it is crazy that he still like he tweeted that deleted like 20 minutes later he was definitely [ __ ]	who you got though	2,8,4	0,0,0	2	8	4	0	0	0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXPZ1KzdpsY	4,103	mXPZ1KzdpsY	2024-06-20 00:00:00	well well well ladies and gentlemen do we have a special episode for you today none other than sugar Shan om Ali the current UFC bantamweight champion a legend in his own right this episode was off the cusp we were a little turned up Jasper was really really drunk so we weren't really prepared for this at all the conversations definitely got wild and obviously as you guys have seen over maybe the past week or so we launched a new company called w am men's carine in Walmart this company is so near and dear to my heart and I partnered with Shawn to bring this Vision to life amongst other celebrities artists and athletes that we are announcing over the next couple of weeks here get your w at Walmart it is very very very very very good stuff and yes you heard the news I am fighting Mike Perry on July 20th it is going down I'm still fighting Mike Tyson November 15th that is happening but I'm staying active knocking out Mike Perry on July 20th and I'm excited for y'all to listen to this episode and he the vision of w how it all came together and how Shawn got involved and then everything to do with Shawn's career this podcast has been a long time coming but prepare yourself for some idiocracy per usual uh this is [ __ ] with Jake Paul we have a secret handshake check it out AC let me get that stop playing mean yeah we created that because we actually have so many things to get into here this has been a long time coming Jasper did bring up something and the reason W was created was because the other products in the category had harmful dyes parabens sulfates hormone disruptors and so we wanted to create the better for you vitamin infused product and and Sean's a co-owner just signed today yesterday for the show but we we'll get into all of that we we've been you know bringing sea on for like we've been talking for like a month and a half yes sir yes sir um it is currently May we've been doing a lot of shoots this podcast will probably come out at post W launch you can get I'm so drunk I'm sorry y'all you can get it in uh Walmart every Walmart you in Paca Walmart get it in you in Pensacola it's in Walmart in Kentucky Walmart Walmart so basically uh we we brought in the greatest people in the world to help build W and Sean is one of those people but dialing everything back we will get into the company the body washes how this all came about but uh we've been wanting to do this podcast and thanks for joining us BR hey guys hey thanks for joining us right did you uh yeah I did you sh for an hour bro did you did you do do we know do we set the stage of the day and the fact that Jasper's slash right now okay cool y drunk is a [ __ ] y like double drunk yep yep yep you drunk yeah all that so um but just winding everything back uh I think we've been friends for a long time in fact you were the first guest on this show oh [ __ ] crazy Zoom crazy that's right that's right that's right the first ever episode you zoomed in and that's crazy we're thankful we're thankful for our friendship and it's pretty cool that now we're here again today uh getting less views than before and that's fire that's it congratulations less views we're not we're not it was it was a joke it was a joke if you watching this please like and comment cuz we falling off right now but man by the time this comes out you're going to be getting ready for me RAB how do you say his name I don't remember morab is iTab or or I don't know me that's got to be it me but you got to say it with the emphasis look meab mirab meab meab there you go there you go so yeah I should be getting ready hopefully I ain't got nothing scheduled hopefully uh you know Uncle Dana will call me say hey buddy you want to fight in in here and there and there and then I'm d b boom and that that's how that works what's up with everybody on your body though everybody talking [ __ ] even people youat I wanted to bring up yeah and he's like saying like he's trying to post about you even yesterday it is weird but when you concuss someone you know what I just say they don't think as well as they used to so I think he's still concussed and he's a little confused because he's talking [ __ ] still he not in his right mind because I can just throw up another post go because it's a throwback Thursday it's a throwback Friday do you think do you think people don't respect you enough cuz I I see that as your friend an unbiased like they just see social media and podcasts and the the hair and stuff like that and then they just sh week but I [ __ ] with you I appr that um I don't think it is well you can't you know I think it's fine I think you're jealous I ain't going to lie I got some inches under here let's smell that hair you can smell my [ __ ] must who I do think I feel a little bit disrespected as the champ but I think that last fight against Che kind of you know shut a little bit of people up canny go five rounds Cheeto beat me before the Alo fight um shut a lot of people up canny grapple didn't have to Grapple cuz he couldn't take me down yeah Alo couldn't take you down I think that was the biggest thing where they were like yo that's his weakness like yeah wrestle him down and then he just proved everyone wrong that's what's so interesting about this morab fight is he's supposedly well he is he's [ __ ] good at wrestling he's really really good at wrestling he's boring as [ __ ] and no one will there won't be one comment saying yeah right he's actually kind of fun not one person I'm com won I'm com you can I ask you something would you put yourself in your own top five Strikers in the UFC oh I'm yeah yo easily who's your Mount Rushmore strikker well I I mean I would unbiasedly I would put him as number one because adna is in like top three but he also like got beat by put that [ __ ] down boy he did uh bro I'm up there I'm up there Max is really good Max super his striking that's a good top five there that's four me Max Elia adaga uh I'm sure I'm missing some your with a one would it be that's that's a minus one Mount rmore is four yeah but I only got four but if you throw the five in it's a plus one isn't there only four yeah but but you ready to throw the five up I'm four all right that's my more but yeah once again uh this is a [ __ ] ass podcast so we apologize hey but something something you just touched on you talked about Fighters being fun and interesting how much and you're you're a superstar how much of you being a superstar how much of any fighter being a superstar comes down to them being fun and interesting as you are and how much of it comes down to their actual fighting good question uh well who's a super who who obviously Connor comes to mind I think he's he's a character he's fun he's interesting who else comes to mind is like a superstar I would say Izzy gives that off I think he's an interesting guy other than that there's not like a ton of fun like Ryan Garcia is doing a really good job right now of being [ __ ] interesting being a character uh I think that's fentel I think it's drugs as well I wouldn't deny that but he's still making people interested in Ryan versus Devon Haney was an interesting fight not because Devon Haney that dude's boring as [ __ ] you think he did them roids no I don't think Ryan did I think Devon needs to take that L he being a [ __ ] about I think the craziest [ __ ] you said to me and like I don't even know if we want to put this in there or bring it up but we we can always remove it but uh because of your your situation with the ostarine and you said to me like and it I like fully felt your energy you're like I swear on my daughter's life I never did that and you got popped for it yeah same thing happened uh to Ryan right now he popped for aost the low super low level a some [ __ ] like a trillionth of a gr the same thing happened to me uh so when that came out with Ryan like I truly truly didn't believe he took anything because it was the same [ __ ] and it happens to a lot of [ __ ] ostarine happens to how does that happen it's called the tainted supplement so if you're taking anything that has protein in it that's not third party tested uh could not just protein any kind of supplement that's not third party tested it's either NSF or there's a bunch of different third party tests but if you're not if you're taking something that doesn't have that there's chances there could be something in it but austram people pop for that all the time my case was not that big of a deal cuz I wasn't as huge of a star as I am now but it still was like a big deal because of my name the reason it's going so crazy right now is because Ryan G is a superstar so people are freaking out but it happens to a lot of athletes I just before we move past it I just on that Superstar topic how is that is that Superstar factor that that someone like you has someone like Ryan has someone like Connor has is it something you're born with or is it is it a practice is it something you can learn and do you sit back and like think like oh how can I go viral today how can I I think it's both I think you have to want to be a superstar there's some guys in the UFC like I want to make more money I want this I want that but they don't really want to be a superstar you you got to want it you got to you got to have some kind of vision a long time before well and and also like who you are as a person you have to have that like Fire Within still though like before you got into want famous I want to be in the NFL I want to be NBA I wanted to be a [ __ ] athlete when I was young was instilled I was just for whatever reason I wanted to make it when I was young I'm from H in Montana like small ass can I ask you something what's your opinion on like the take b nickel takes like where he's like super friendly and humble and like I think he's a sweet ass [ __ ] they love him but like bro that [ __ ] pisses me off I think that [ __ ] is cool too n like you're a hum like [ __ ] talk your [ __ ] you're what 670 like bro talk your [ __ ] like it it kind of bores me no I get yeah I mean that's that's some people's opinion is like he's too nice too humble too that but he's being himself um but he's also super young in the sport I think he and he's still pretty what is he 28 you're in a sport of War if I was playing like [ __ ] Cricket I would be like yeah like but that's that's the thing is for for for a character like him what it seems like is that's what he's in is the sport of war and that's it he's not in the sport of entertainment he's a nice ass sweetheart get there is some people that that understand both sides of things but I also have respect for and I see when someone's that's strictly in the sport of if I play chess with you I'm going to be like good game and I'm going to shake your hand I talk [ __ ] be F ass to a PO it I'm going to be like [ __ ] you you need to get better at whatever you're doing dial dialing it back a little bit um to the aost stream thing I think it's like what do you think about Conor tweeting still at like 3:00 a.m. like coked out he he he he sent shots at me and Ryan talking [ __ ] but it's it's crazy coming from Connor who literally got out of the usada pool to do steroid like legit steroids so it's kind of wild and I was the biggest Connor fan for a long time in the last couple weeks ever since he sent that wasn't even a couple weeks ago probably a week ago I've been trying to hate him I've been trying to be like [ __ ] you Connor but I can't I love Connor I it's like I am excited for his fight coming up I'm excited I want you know I'm all about it what's the fight is it Chandler Chandler in June it's going to be big they just been trying to do it for a long time so I didn't know if it still still I think officially I think it's I think I think the craziest part about it is what like eight weeks before a fight that he's still like coked and drunk out of his mind who you got though who that's a good it is crazy that he still like he tweeted that deleted like 20 minutes later he was definitely [ __ ] up on well that's what I was going to say we can't just Grace past that do you is that that's a that's a bold thing to say do you you know he's on coke is that a is that are you [ __ ] gills I don't know anything but I know for certain that he's brother like look at the time of the tweets and look at what he's saying like also and he's like known for this simar tweets yeah yeah I don't know just manic brother I think he is I do think Ryan is I think he when he said he was playing into it a little bit I I think he's kind of using that I think he's [ __ ] crazy what what what would happen if you and Ryan boxed that's I mean there's only one way to find out he has a lot better chances of beating me in a boxing match than he does in a real fight keep up I do I I [ __ ] I truly believe in myself that's how I got to the [ __ ] position I'm in right now I can box I can throw hands um I don't think it'd be easy by any means I do think it's possible I beat him I'm not saying my my odds are great but I do believe I could beat Ryan Bo if there was anybody you could box for your first boxing match debut who are you Bo give an easy fight give me Deon Haney you give [Laughter] me honest answer uh I mean if we're I I would say Floyd if I Pi if I could sit here and pick who I box first boxing fight I pick Floyd because it would be the biggest most crazy most legendary fight maybe not most legendary some people for me okay but outside of that on a skill based level oh I I could hang with some good [ __ ] pro boxers I'm undefeated in boxing you think you think if you and uh ilot boxed that' be ilot is very very [ __ ] skilled boxing that's an interesting question so who what what professional boxer would you equate your PA Mike Tyson I know of Devon Haney now because Ryan Garcia beat him uh dvon Davis he's really short I know him um maybe smacking [ __ ] up though he does he that little guy he can't he can't ride roll coasters though that is true so there's a there's a tradeoff like Cruz fight he was riding a roller coaster no like I'm talking about like at the fair oh no you know like there there's a trade-off in life you know where things get weird it's like it's like yo he's really good but you can't even just hit Dante fan brother can't even ride the top not a Dante fan that's not what I'm wait what did what did I say to say I'm not a you didn't say I mean I don't think he knows that it's a short joke I don't think he picked up on you want me tell him I was joking shut the [ __ ] up I get I say that was a joke I'm what are you trying to say I'm but are you trying to insinuate that I'm short no honestly you're probably what five you're 5'9 you're like 5' seven and a half stop doing stop doing it stop doing that cuz [ __ ] is going to see this and be like he's 5'6 actually if you watching this and you think I'm 5'6 and you want to try me in person please any [ __ ] who see me out I'm punching your [ __ ] out I'm like 5'9 on a good day when when I'm lying to women I'm 5'10 for sure who's gonna ID me I'm wearing forces I'm a [ __ ] liar all right so now for the truth jakee he's like what like he's 5 No but don't do that bro all right all right we won't we'll cut that out like yeah n don't cut it out n don't see me and see these but you know dvon is 5'5 legit that's cool bro I know but is that not short just be honest is that five five short for a grown man for a grown man is that short you can be a fan I'm not I'm a fan of javante and he's five that's a little little bro all right the joke went over his head anyways so the short joke [ __ ] is trying to play me like I'm short no no no we're we're not we're not you're [ __ ] tall all right let's pivot yeah so um SI yeah sh shout out to the shout out to the pivot but but yeah like Jasper's a little riled up things are on edge he's a little he's a little turned up it's been a long day a long two days we've been shooting uh because we have a new [ __ ] company did we say we talk about that yet I we said in the beginning raise your arms up [ __ ] goed [ __ ] goed shout out to w a fun few days it's been a fun few days days you're going to see the content rolling out um but you speaking of but Ruby Rose did a good job oh my God I wanted to bite that M listen anyway if you're near wmart if you're watching this right now I don't give a [ __ ] what you're doing you could be taking care of your kid you could be taking care of your elderly parents [ __ ] them go to Walmart June 1st Nationwide I don't care if you in Pensacola you in Massachusetts all in places that sound [ __ ] stupid there's a Walmart there and you go there it's a better for you product vitamin ifuse number [ __ ] one yeah no basically I I think dialing back like the business story of it because you're also like a very smart businessman intellectual doing everything you do in and outside of the Ring which a lot of people don't have which contributes to you being uh the biggest in my opinion the biggest UFC star um but yeah we we basically I guess this is the podcast where we tell people where W came from but um we started building this company like a year and a half ago and really saw how all these other companies like as we move into better for you products and less harmful products we saw how the leaders in the space didn't have the best formulas didn't have the best manufacturing had all of these harmful substances in it and we're also brands from when I was like 9 years old I don't want to list names but they're still like having all the Shelf space in stores and I was just like this is wild like this is boring this is lame the the the we need something new we need something that's better uh males have vitamin uh deficiencies like crazy especially with magnesium Jasper just can't get enough of it uh especially with magnesium um and biotin is in the body wash uh vitamin E one two of the best vitamins for your skin and hair um but as The Story Goes long story short we we come up with this brand that represents so many things um but I think winning in everyday life whether you're the valedictorian whether you are the high school jock whether you're philanthropist now you have a product that you can embody and wear every single day that's increasing your vitamin intake that is less harmful to you that's where the idea came from and just being the winning formula in category uh went to Walmart pitched them the whole idea they [ __ ] loved it helped us build the brand even and come up with the scent profiles and all the things that are the the most popular um and this has been something I've wanted to do for so long we had to bring in the best people to be a part of it the winners in their category and that's number one Numero Uno sha Ali here um and he instantly saw the vision and already in the past couple of days it's been like super fun filming all the content behind yeah I was pumped when you [ __ ] called me appreciate you thinking of me and uh excited to help grow this business [ __ ] it's needed it's needed we're going to take over the whole bathroom you know tooed if you [ __ ] with the dogs and cows and chickens dog in you I know what I got that dog in me and I use it so be dog free baby am I missing anything with that no I think that was great the one the one thing I would touch on and you did in a way but it's it is body wash it is body spray it is deodorant but it also is there's an ethos that stands behind this brand which is the ethos that you stand for and it's the ethos that you stand for and the ethos that you stand for and the one that I stand for if I say ethos again I'm GNA start stumbling over my words but it's it's it's like you said it it doesn't the winners in life aren't just you you're on a big stage in life you're you're you're crushing it in every aspect financially you're a star you're leading your sport that's awesome on every [ __ ] level it's it's an encouragement to to young men all around the world to [ __ ] get up off their ass and get sh it don't matter if you score high on a test you whatever the [ __ ] it is that you do well maybe not so it matters what the [ __ ] you do but it also doesn't matter what the [ __ ] you do anybody is a winner as long as you put in the work and you have the will to win and I love it I I would say that's wrong I would say that not anybody is a winner and I think that's something that the brand also stands for like you really got to win you got to as you have the will to win no I'm just saying I think that's an important point cuz we live in a world today where a lot of people think everybody can be a winner that's not true if you Los you might be a loser and if you're a loser the good news is there's a hidden l in the logo actually we'll trace it for you with our graphic design team there's a hidden l in the logo because and I I I wanted to make sure that was was a thing because the biggest loss of my life turned out to be the biggest W in my life and I always had the saying like two L's make a w and when I lost to Tommy Fury it was embarrassing all these things but I realized I wasn't focused I wasn't as locked in as I could be the team around me from a boxing standpoint wasn't good I was having personal issues with relationships and all of these things that I had to shed and grow from and I grew into this new and completely different person but I wouldn't have done that if I didn't lose on the biggest stage possible and I think that was part of the ethos ethos ethos ethos of the brand was to encourage people that in their lowest moments to turn those into into their biggest W's eventually when Jake just said that the biggest loss of his life ended up being the biggest W of his life you said same yeah yeah same what what was that story for supposedly lost for lost to Cheeto back in 2020 August it it was I mean it sucked at the time but I it didn't suck too bad because I was like okay I didn't lose because I you know and it was different I wasn't I mean I was focused everything went good training camp everything was good but I was like that sucks I'm goingon to get that back someday when the time is right and then my last fight two two months ago in Miami headline I'm the champ defending my belt against that same guy how rewarding was that three and a half years later August three and a half years later boom beat his ass as a fan of yours it made it so sweet because of all the doubters that constantly like put you down and didn't believe in you and said he was going to destroy you and then you he literally like you embarrass him that was a performance of a life you embarrassed the [ __ ] out of him and I think that's literally a prime example of turning l l into into a w and I really that's what that's where the hidden l in the brand in the logo is um and representing that every single day when you see these products in your bathroom and when we say we have a saying it's not just a product it's a lifestyle absolutely trademarked Incorporated All Rights Reserved 2024 brother uh but but yeah man it's it's an honor to have you a part of this and uh we we really made what we think are the best products on the market from the body wash being exfoliating vitamin infused to the body spray what we found out is a lot of these fragrances like you get like these high-end designer brands that have like $500 colognes turns out it only cost them a dollar to make that and they're literally making like $499 on top of that so we had a fine fragrance house is what these places are called and we got the super expensive scents and gave it to people to what they're worth like we're not trying to these products are super super affordable and I think it's so funny because that's the world we live in where like you just label something and get like a European girl to go this is one of the lower priced men's care products on the market yeah if I'm not mistaken and it's it's the $500 fragrance in the affordable bottle because we want everyone we've been using a body wash in the past two days since we got the samples after the shoot and I personally want to say I got the in there you could bleep it out whatever you want to do W's winning n b genuinely that's that's the saying is the it's winning formula cuz it really is like it really is if if we're going to call our company [ __ ] W it has to be the best we the winners winning product indeed indeed winning customers all that type of [ __ ] indeed better Derek today he's just got a punch I'm not Li I talked to him before he left he wants to punch you up bro he's got a punchable face I like him though it's weird it's like God I like that guy but I want [ __ ] KO pick him up and like it's okay boom one more to the liing me earlier and I'm just letting you know don't shoot the messenger on God he said he wants to get in the ring with you I can call him really he oh yeah he he you want to call him yeah where is he at is wait uh no call no call he's coming up oh um he's talking smack he said he actually wants a spar I swear to God he said he wants to get percentage should I go you guys I literally out let that's crazy timeing saying talk [ __ ] to my face if you're going to talk [ __ ] that's crazy timing what were you saying they were telling me you want to get in the ring and Spar bit or they didn't say Spar they said fight yeah I'm down to do either but uh yeah no I'm just sick of the [ __ ] [ __ ] you've been saying on your podcast uh you called me you made fun of my weight and you called me gay I did not no I well okay okay you said that he wouldn't ever say that what you got to say what your chest that's what I just [ __ ] said bro I he was like oh if I if stand on it you talking to him you talking to him you ain't talking to me my assistant Sono would would piece you he's never boxed a day he never I'm here to fight your video I'm here to fight you what did I what was the first thing I said to you when when I saw you what was the first thing I said to you that we could fight no I said you look thick wait but when we were talking earlier weren't you saying he's a [ __ ] and you wanted to get a ring with him and all type [ __ ] what I'm saying right now say it then I just said the [ __ ] ring so we can after this we have a ring 2 feet away and he's a [ __ ] and whatever else you was saying to me yeah he's [ __ ] what about my hair say something about my hair I I already said that at the W shoot that you look like you haven't showered in [ __ ] a week okay all right d hey buddy hey hey what's your long-term play not no but see you guys you guys are making me seem crazy you're out of your mind he Derek Dereck go warm up hit the hit the heavy back H the warm up is almost listen legendary as send location dble PIV go warm up hey hey double pivot sit sit I'm not [ __ ] no I I'll sit and talk but I'm not [ __ ] no sit on the floor walk you want to take my seat hey how much how much of what's going on ch ch how much of what's going on is is a character versus like actual delusion how much is a character yeah decent uh I would say there are times where I know what I have to do for my boxing career to like like we all why is he laughing cuz you said career I beat your [ __ ] boy your [ __ ] [ __ ] bro you know what I I recall you did beat I recall calling steiny saying what the [ __ ] was that buddy I love steiny but I do remember watching that and thinking I wasn't proud of that I was not proud of that from steiny and I wish I wish he would come to the gym I wish he'd get in there I wish he'd train a little bit and I wish he would have a rematch but that's on him I've been trying to get the rematch but he's been ding me do you think Derek won he said I won I thought I thought he won I'd have to rewatch but I do think I come on baby the comments have [ __ ] dragged me for months after that [ __ ] 99% of the comments say I lost so please say it one more time Sean no I said it what I said it's like therapy or something no but to answer your question uh we all know uh uh as Fighters there's a side of promotion stop [ __ ] first of all Gus shut the [ __ ] up our our audio guys uh like can't stop laughing is that the facial his facial hair or is what he's saying bro that's bold of you to talk facial hair bro that's bold of you to I'm not Li you look dirty you look like Jeffrey done training right Jesus I train every day but anyway we know like there's two sides of of promotion as well as the actual athletic competition that is Combat Sports so there are times where I might play up a little bit like hey promoting but let him go let him go all right if you if all if you think I'm all promoting that I'll see you in the [ __ ] ring and I'll knock both you either of you out well um well Jake's a [ __ ] fat [ __ ] right now he weighs like 240 so I got I goty I gotta pick my words wisely like he's Jake's 240 I I know I know but like I'm not going to sit here and pick a fight against somebody that's 240 when I'm se's my weight class when I stopped you in one round like just like but when I was getting started out of come this is where I'm at since then I told him he could have somebody tag team I'm down I'm down to fight anybody in this [ __ ] room not one person in this room I'm the best part about this is like uh right after this we I think you're you're down to do like one round or three minutes right I mean I'd prefer 12 but we okay yeah 12 I mean that my biggest advantage in the ring ring is my cardio I do 12 12 okay so no I have a genuine question so five round I'm not I'm not one have I ever said I'm a UFC fighter no I'm just say we can box I'm just saying that's I'm used to five you want to do three we could do that aren't you trying to be a boxer with your [ __ ] Ryan Garcia call he would knock knock your [ __ ] ass out so quickly it wouldn't be close I'm one and0 pro boxing what are you actually I saw that video I saw video I'm also want to know thank you officially hey they count that's real commiss but uh I didn't mean I didn't mean to take I didn't mean to take over the pot I just wanted to a couple you definitely didn't yeah okay I try I'm trying to help you no we love you go warm up yeah yeah go warm up the bags don't warm up too much though don't get tired how much do you wa right now without Timberlands and jean shorts on high 120 low 13 no without lying though okay that [ __ ] is you think you got you got him one round I think I could beat him I think I can beat him I I think I could handicap myself to three just put on one glove I could do that what do you think actually happens now when you go downstairs and he gets in that ring like what's his plan that's what I don't get about him but that's why it's that's do me a favor that's why he's Cloud it up because love [ __ ] up [ __ ] he's going he's going to try to Yap he's going to try to talk please just go 100% yeah no actually actually please go 100% if he signs a consent form we'll have him no we've already got like multiple consent forms for better media with like death wavers [ __ ] no no no but he needs it he needs that I'll go like 40 no go like 75 Sean I'm I'm going to be honest bro don't even go 20% he's the nice [ __ ] bro don't do that bro you want him to go 100% no no to be honest but just like work with him and then just like maybe just just like a really good punching and then he'll give up 75% uh I'm nervous man I'm shaking for Derek yeah yeah that's good I understand that there a couple flinches if you Flinch hard enough the the wind coming off you will put him down let him walk you down and bait him boom sleeping what's your next upcoming fight a maraba jaaba and when is that uh not nothing yet I'm hoping for September maybe October maybe November maybe December I'm F ready to go baby what if it was next month I wouldn't be ready to go I like I like 10 to 12 weeks 10 to 12 he likes eight I mean I I normally do like 10 yeah just like but I've been super the first few weeks are [ __ ] pre-amps this Camp I'm channeling my Ryan Garcia would you ever do a Ryan Garcia regiment during Camp drink and smoke every night you do a little I I probably yeah I'm not actually doing that for the people out there he's locked in clocked in locked in locked in ready to go yeah May 20th we start but by the time the people see this it'll be uh June or something like that that is crazy you're fighting Mike that you fought Ben asran wrestler good good [ __ ] UFC was really good UF bit Tyron Woodley twice Anderson Silva knockout of the year with Nate Robinson can't forget about deji deji the the the goat do we say Gibb or is that like that's just crazy resume like literally [ __ ] C by way thank you Gib cuz we had a really good party after he knocked you the [ __ ] out who W we're skipping two professional boxers this always no no the recent ones this always happens I'm trying to just think cuz two cuz this is what everybody asked for this is what everybody asked for who who are the two professional boxers you fighted you got to name them Andre August and Ryan Borland go okay people don't people are like fight a pro boxer and then I do and then they're like that was boring as a man of combat he what were 10 and one nine and one nine and one what is your take on his [ __ ] all of his fights and who he's fighting in the competition dude I've been excited as [ __ ] since I started I remember you I remember the first time I watched was the Nate Robinson I watched that one at home and then uh I don't remember what it was after that but I remember watching Ben Asam in Atlanta I think that was the first time we actually met was right after the fight I think we hugged I was like y I picked you up you carried me back to the locker room that it was love at first sight that was crazy actually yeah actually I [ __ ] with him we became best friends like a couple days later you going to leave me hanging no no I would it's my eyebrow but uh yeah no I think he's obviously super skilled I think it's and I I it's inspired me even in the position I'm at UFC World Champ sexy you know what I mean like tall dark handsome TR inspired me just business the business uh side of things that you've done I've always thought putting on massive fight that's why I'm such a huge Conor fan cuz the pay-per-views he's done is so [ __ ] he's been fighting for four years and [ __ ] that he's been doing the massive fights the fights I get excited for there's a few UFC fights the high the big big fights that I get excited for but every time you fought even when uh Logan fought Floyd I was [ __ ] like excited like all fight week so i' I've been inspired from what you've done from a business side from the boxing side they even just start so not late but for a boxer but these boxers start when they're [ __ ] three four years old like Ryan and tank like they're young buck the Tik Tac I sent you of Devon Haney's debut fight yeah it's wild he was fighting a five foot Mexican in a in a bar was it Dante bro if I show you this [ __ ] oh no I did see that I did see that I did see that when you started even seeing that first video fighting Anderson Silva six fights in bro like do you know how insane that is he's one of the greatest correct me if I'm wrong UFC Strikers in history yeah 100% so does that make me one of the greatest UFC Strikers and one of the greatest wrestlers cuz wood but Ben ask was but Nate Diaz is ducking me in MMA oh am crazy I am weak that's a sick fight MMA I I wish it was that would happened right after the boxing same he's actually ducking it which is why it's crazy because he's not he's not in UFC no but we we upped it to 15 million damn that's crazy though that would be a I like Nate Diaz but that would be such a fun buildup he actually doesn't want to do it all Sean how do you genuinely Jake's not here it's me and you in a room actually how do you see that fight going for Jake what MMA him you're not here J for Nate in MMA keep it a bean God it's it's so hard to you're a big [ __ ] right now on what weight would it be5 185 I don't hate I don't I it's not a it's a winable fight for you I really do think that but Nate is so [ __ ] you would have to do what I did against aljo and morab do not let that [ __ ] grab you not that you can't wrestle cuz I know you can wrestle but once he starts grabbing you and doing Jiu-Jitsu if he gets on top his little he likes his little trips it would be hard for you to win I feel like if he if he started grappling just pure Jiu-Jitsu if it let's be real if it goes to the floor is he [ __ ] if he's on his back Nate's not like a super strong guy so if you learn how to like I mean I'm sure you know how to get up to a single legegg stuff like that but then you start getting your neck grabbed I don't know how much Jiu-Jitsu you know I mean Nate's a [ __ ] high Lev black belt um if you could keep it standing 100% there's winnable ways there if he if he went to the ground feel like he might be able to grab your neck no that that's exactly how I feel about it if I don't get guillotined yeah then I win the fight because even if he was on top take your back but even if he was on top of me I would just throw him off of me cuz he's also the weakest puncher I've ever fought like when he was hitting me I was I almost like started laughing I'm I'm not even saying this to talk [ __ ] out of everyone I've sparred in my whole entire life and everyone I fought his punches are even me we I don't think you ever landed a punch on me is that true well that's not true so I don't anyone no I'm literally not even talking [ __ ] which is why I think it's funny that he dropped Connor and [ __ ] cuz it's just like how Conor with like to the ground yeah like with a straight left hand yeah which is crazy like I I'm not just talking [ __ ] when I say that and I've told you I've literally told you this you told me this after the fight yeah I was like he is the weakest puncher I've ever fought in my life who's who's the weakest puncher you've ever you've ever come to face um there I mean there's been so many fights where I later didn't even get hit um uh does that like make you jaded at all when you get into a fight and you don't really get love that [ __ ] I prefer not to get hit at all but like if I was you and I wasn't get hit at all I'd probably work less no no no no I I know I don't get hit because I work that hard so if I didn't work hard I know I'd probably get hit I'm just a lazy [ __ ] so so here you are on top of the world we're launching [ __ ] W going to be a billion dollar business [ __ ] you I always forget uh UFC champ accomplishing all your goals what do you want next uh what are what is the threeyear fiveyear for Sean I I truly do want to get a boxing fight I'm not I'm not super set on that to where like I'm like going to be [ __ ] if it doesn't happen I do think it'll be interesting especially if I go out there knock morab out Ryan does his thing I think there's a [ __ ] sweet fight there if it doesn't happen not that worried about it want to go out there beat morab I'd like to you know if Max Max and Elia fight I would like to fight go move up to 45 fight the winner of that um you know maybe have three to five maybe have a few more kids definitely want another little baby I love kids my fite pump him out shout out to Danny who's your top pick in a boxing fight though if you if you could choose your Ryan now was like the I mean what he after dvon Beat Ryan I was like javante then Ryan goes out there does his thing really though I think Dante do you is that is that not a big [ __ ] leap Ryan like you said before he's been doing this his whole life one thing that's been proven is that the crossover it's it's not a good return Fury he did his thing okay the excep is the exception we've seen it with okay but then Anthony Joshua put his ass t was crazy super night night he was I'm I'm here for big fights like I wanted to get into the UFC and I wanted to make big fights watching Conor versus Floyd I'm like that [ __ ] happened really happened hey you versus Derek that could be as big as Connor in Floyd but no but I I think the craziest [ __ ] about Conor versus Floyd is that overall it was a W for everyone involved so there's certain fights where it just like doesn't matter what happens that's the world we live in yeah I mean UFC told me they said if the if the fight's big enough and it'll make the UFC money they'll do it what means more to you your your your record being pre or the amount of money you're making all right let me ask you something it's about to get real J's drunk Jasper's drunk as [ __ ] y record or money [ __ ] it depends the Gap like like the gap of money if it's like an extra 10 15 20 million but I lose a couple important fights probably not you just take like 150 million I'll be like like [ __ ] my record baby yeah it depends on the gap of money Jake Paul is not here right now just like a Mayweather Conor McGregor you taking that fight ver Jake yeah no he's my buddy I could I mean I don't I don't even no I no funny no there's you know what's funny is always in my Snapchat story once once a day pretty much someone says we knock out Jake Paul like there's every sing all the time for so long people just want to see me get [ __ ] is good though that's like the thing yeah but I'm sensitive it is funny though people [ __ ] love to hate confidence the craziest thing though actually about both of you like I met you very recently like I didn't realize you're as like normal as you are I don't know why I thought you violent like you guys are both like very goofy mellow and stupid and c and and awesome it's like the greatest thing ever like I couldn't believe when I met you you're like one of us like yeah I wouldn't think you're a [ __ ] yeah one of the coolest people in the world for sure yeah but not a lot of people uh can like I don't know we have like a weird it's hard toes Meat Heads I'm like this the this my dog I think it's a little bit of dark humor too it's like some [ __ ] up [ __ ] that we say off camera [ __ ] sometimes but I think it's like there's a certain yeah like that's how my whole group is back home it's like we all just we're all just kind of [ __ ] dumb I'm smart but like they're dumb well someone commented like yo Jake Paul's the dumbest genius in the world and I was just like I say that [ __ ] all the time you wed up the other day and I was like this is the most genius dumbass in the world no jokes Hey Brother chill buddy trying to get me cancelled no what how old are you 23 are you really yeah no you're not he's not is he what do you think think what did you think Oh no you're 267 27 what did you think he was I thought he was older I thought he was like 27 26 yeah a niggaer mature was that ladies you got a boo you got a girl you just be slanging she timeout right now I don't really talk about she don't time out it's a little tricky she not taking care of herself what do you guys think about Tom Brady R you watch it yeah they kept comp panning to you every 5 Seconds bro I swear there's a huge camer sitting there the whole time but it's cool to see Netflix going hard like that cuz they went hard they swing that meat around huha yeah let's pivot yeah just sorry about him I'm drunk man not yeah but but it was it was great it wasar they should have got rid of most of the football players going up there yeah there's a couple ones Ben afflac is that who that was on there that was wild that was so weird that was so weird it was cool to see how [ __ ] less sensitive people are becoming I feel like feel like it's recently like there's a big push back I think people got sick of it we went super super super PC for a long time people were like wait a second we like being able to say what we want to say I saw kill Tony say oh type of crazy [ __ ] on there that watch every [ __ ] Monday you were on kill Tony yeah how old are you actually buddy I'm a comedian Budd full time no yeah I was on that I was nervous as hell though I was like just being it's a live I do podcast once a week like me and Tim do our podcast every [ __ ] week but to be there in front of an audience live it's weird it's a different kind of well so you say Tim but let's let's talk about actually the fact that you get trained by by one of the greatest boxers of all time it's really that's something what's happened like that's crazy working with Canelo as your as your coach that's what I'm saying people don't going to be Ryan but like yeah that is true I never even thought about that for did you even know that this guy proba even know that that orange [ __ ] is nice wait will I get cancelled by the ginger community no you're black oh no my dad my dad's Ginger and I'm I'm like this [ __ ] is ginger bro he be shaving he be shaving his beard and I zoom in zoom in it's it's slightly orange so I'm a quarter ginger on South Park they made fun of Gingers and that [ __ ] made the news I [ __ ] with the ginger people but like y'all [ __ ] you like redhead girls oh yeah was Super Soaker but anyway yeah like y'all [ __ ] is orange and that's okay but back to you one of y'all that's not drunk I got a question cuz this guy clipped out a lot did Tim actually like you guys about him like saying to fight that was yeah that was real Tim always be talking [ __ ] to the like he's been doing that for so long so what happened he just talk I mean he just he Alo the knee's coming Alo you got to shoot Alo watch out for this like he's been saying that since I've been in the UFC like my debut vers terion where he was talking [ __ ] to terion too and uh he just does it every fight but this happened to just be crazy timing to like Tim you got Tim like alre you got to go and like literally he he like that's when he threw that left hand or whatever stepped into Southpaw and uh or stepped into Orthodox and got dropped it was it was funny the timing because he's like Al you got to go I don't I truly don't think that's why that's not why Alo went I bet you could I bet Alo didn't even hear that but Tim's always chirping and stuff but people on the internet are [ __ ] mad about that a lot of them actually like it I'll say majority of people are thinking that's the funniest [ __ ] ever there's a couple [ __ ] that are like you should be banned think it's a fight would you run the alra fight back or one and done never I like that why would I yeah am I supposed to top that you know what I'm saying I got love for Alo we had him on the show and he he seems like a good dude I actually don't mind Alo I does that ever happen where like you'll have a personal relationship with someone personal runin with them and it's all great but then now all of a sudden you have to fight each other I've never had I've not of running with someone that's been like uh more than like I've ran into aljo morab at the UFC I'm like hey what's up talk to him a little bit you know nothing no ill will um but I haven't had like a run with someone I actually lik them mhm and then at the fight them so you're not friends with any any other UFC fighters oh I have a there's there's a couple guys in my in my weight class that I train with at the lab that are like climbing the r uh ladders what happened with uh the 125 pounder I I don't even know his name and I'm not I'm just not like yeah what's his name I Alexander pania bro this story is actually kind of funny so 2016 I think it was it was like 3 and0 4 and0 and I was still fighting at like I fought at 125 not too long before that I fought at like 130 which is in a weight class was like so I wasn't like a 155 like I am now I was probably like 14 back then and uh Henry cejudo comes in I'm three or four and0 at the point at this point it comes in with this kid Alexander PTO just won The Ultimate Fighter I think he's got his UFC debut or it's his second UFC fight he's a couple weeks out from his fight I'm [ __ ] the night before me and Tim ripping bongs like hanging out being goofballs and [ __ ] so the next morning so we brought him in for sparring hry sudo brings in Alexander you're 4-0 he's King [ __ ] he he's just won The Ultimate Fighter and so they write the names on on the board who who you're sparring I'm like oh [ __ ] I got Alexander Pantoja versus me for one round one round he has three rounds so you write one one name then usually you you spar with one guy then they go out you spar with a fresh guy they go out spar with the fresh guy that's usually how it works so my name was just up there for one round that's it we Spar one round I didn't know anything about him cuz I I didn't really watch it like that 25 I don't really watch 25ers like that but somebody's like oh [ __ ] that's he a black belt he just won The Ultimate Fighter I was like oh [ __ ] I got to [ __ ] Focus up here first round boom Dro him with a liver kick and I wasn't going to post I record all my rounds I have so many sparring rounds like I wasn't going to post it was and for some reason I don't know why he would talk [ __ ] and bring it up cuz I literally I don't know you know know I don't know if you know how it works but you finish a guy the fight's over right no no did he um so I finished him the first round he hit him boom with the liver I posted the video yesterday and I've had it for a long time I didn't want to post it CU you don't post sparring like that but he just kept bringing it up so boom finished him first round um then uh after the first round round I go to walk out and Henry's over there crying box of Kleenex just like [ __ ] wiping his tears crying we want you for a second round so mad that this little like I was nobody just finished his dude he's in the UFC he's supposed to be the man finish him in the first round so Henry's crying saying he wants another round um so I piece him up again in the second round and I'm I'm dying at this point my lungs are burning I'm not in shape for fight I I'm nowhere near in Camp for a fight and I my lungs are hurting and uh Henry again crying blowing his nose and like I want you for a third and Benson comes in Benson Henderson absolute Legend comes in and was yelling cuz that's his it was the his gym the MMA lab we don't let people come in our gym and make us tired and blah blah blah and I'm [ __ ] just just huffing and puffing I just got done work in this dude for 10 minutes finished him in the first round did I say that liver kick um we'll put the footage I have the foot yeah it's right there insert the footage so third round come out boom piece him up again and he's so I don't know why he keeps bringing up this bringing this up in the media I think it's because people ask him but I don't know why he doesn't just say yeah yeah no no I don't want to talk about it he keeps saying like he's like oh I got in I found his range and [ __ ] I'm like bro you you stopped him in one round stopped him in round one and let him live and continue to fight for round two these delusional uh like wild people are weirdos but the reason I posted cuz he kept bringing it up exactly wait so is he the champ now at 125 yeah okay but why does he still want to talk [ __ ] to you if you got [ __ ] up that's what I'm saying I don't know either either you drop to 125 and get that no I can't drop to 125 that's too much now you're a thick [ __ ] I am a thick but yeah I SP I think it's important for up and cominging Spar uh fighters to record their rounds and watch their rounds not for that this reason you know but just to I've improve so much watching my sparring y I have thousands of rounds maybe not thousands hundreds of rounds from 10 years ago on my on my computer of uh it's like NFL team is watching footage the time [ __ ] 100% got to watch that [ __ ] that's I I have every single round recorded and and again I I don't post sparring either exactly you know put in a highlight video make a vlog boom we're sparring people but it's never like [ __ ] up your guy yeah exactly but Mike Perry honestly like what he's been doing is pretty Fu he went to Bare knuckle that [ __ ] just meant for him bare knuckle fighting it's crazy different going crazy he's doing good he's [ __ ] undefeated over there he's beating some really good guys stay over here [ __ ] [ __ ] only place that you should be getting tickets from is game time.co it's it's the only place I go it is the only place you can possibly go they have 110% price match guarantee that's what we use to get our tickets for the NBA Finals you can get $20 off your first order go to gametime.co JJ a $20 off your first order they're doing a deal specifically for y'all and you could see where your tickets are before you buy them seeing the seats they have all of the these great policies last 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platform there is Mike Paul versus Jake Tyson here's my official prediction tell us and even if even if it's against me like it's not it's not I do think you're going to beat Mike Tyson uh it's crazy that I even saying that out loud right now cuz you're fighting Mike Tyson it's [ __ ] crazy even just when we were walking down the the street today people all genders all ages knew you were fighting Mike Tyson it's such a massive fights live on Netflix which is [ __ ] crazy it's in a stadium which is [ __ ] crazy it is crazy I believe in you I see what you I see what you're doing I see you know that you believe in yourself Mike Tyson is uh hasn't fought in however long it's been so for him to just come up and get a fight be I I'm sure is going to be in as good a shape as he possibly could be in but it's just you know it's it's it's it's not his time right now I love Mike Tyson I never actually met him but I love Mike Tyson I do think Jake's gonna get the job done and I do think eight rounds eight two-minute rounds eight two-minute rounds I believe I believe you could put them away in the later rounds you know five six seven eight I do think you could put it put him down which is crazy to even [ __ ] think you rap yeah that's fire I'm just lazy and inconsistent that's not a w no that sh it is not you start using Brandon yell at him every day but cuz you can actually spit that's fire no but but people know him now from like podcasting they don't know he's a rapper and hurts his soul J sick name Lil jizz what J JZ that's good that's good you should switch your [ __ ] I switch my [ __ ] from come Master to kill Jas bro honestly though that's I think singing rapping spitting is one of the things that if I could switch talents be doing something like that that's good or twerking I ain't going to lie you shook that [ __ ] earlier I got a I got a thing on me you that [ __ ] wiggle a little bit let's let's pivot though cuz yep hit a pivot uh yeah do we have a speaker should we play Jasper's new song or something you got a new one I thought you were lazy some new [ __ ] go ahead play on your phone just put it in the speaker put it in the mic too this the [ __ ] I'm dropping when I'm Indie that sound decent I'm not rapping either I'm yapping that's not going to get you drunk yo I made this beat that's crazy I like the way you look I won't lie you got something I need you my with a fly girl like you doing with no guy a little sh don't really go outside I'm not crazy right place and right time you all smiles and pretty light brown [Music] [Music] like that better if I forget you but I just can't time saying do better and I'm sure you can find that guy that's worth all right cut it cut it cut it that's that's enough that's enough that's enough that's enough for real can't give the whole thing it's not out yet yeah hey good [ __ ] that's fire I'll be rapping though but that's some pop [ __ ] just cuz I can do it so why are you consistent cuz I'm lazy and jaded and and spoiled yeah it's unfortunate maam shout out to the homies for a lot of talented people out there that just are yeah don't smoke crack yo also there there is a parallel there don't do don't do that there's a parallel with the same thing he's talking about I think Fighters probably where it's like you could have all the talent in the world he's got that's why I get so [ __ ] mad at him it's cuz he has all the talent in the world really I get more pissed off than he gets and he could be a superstar but he just is lazy he doesn't put the work in he's not he's not strategic and it is hard when you got when you live in a crib in Puerto Rico right you got chefs and [ __ ] and you fly private with me yeah that's it that's it bro that's it you got to you got get paychecks and [ __ ] y'all got to evict me that's not a bad idea honestly I think we talked about it let's make I was I'm H we had a conversation but I just can't I can't because I love you so much I need you but then I'll probably be more like need you y yeah I guarante and then we you would still have to like fly in once a week to to do the pods and it would be resentment and then I I'll go out like and I'll try to start shooting at y'all oh my God I guarantee I would be in the position I'm in if I if I had money and like had already made it like financially had [ __ ] I wouldn't have made it that's why people think I'm crazy but CC the other side of it is like boom right so I'm from com California same hey shout out my [ __ ] yeah man I was homeless for the first half of my life mom's a drug addict dad's a gang member I've never had anything in my life right and my whole life has been music I dropped out in ninth grade I was like I'm going to make music my dad kicks me out he's like you can't live under this roof like be more like your brothers my brothers are [ __ ] star students one got a full ride scholarship loser all all type of [ __ ] nerd ass [ __ ] all those [ __ ] are fat and unemploy now one dropped out of school a full rise scholarship and is just sitting at home right so boom from having nothing to like me saying I'm going to risk everything that I have in my life to become a music artist and it works I get to a certain place and I'm like damn I did exactly I hit a ceiling right so it's like now I had to recalibrate he got a big record deal and then and then like use I crashed out and became a m addict for four four days a week for 30 like 90 days oh it's not bad but then I moved cuz my homeboy was like you need to move and I was like nah [ __ ] that I made a million I ain't going to move I'm going to maintain this lifestyle I'm a junkie but I'm rich yep I crashed out and was like yeah I need to move lost 60 lbs went to Puerto Rico locked in recalibrated and now I'm ready to be but that's that's here's the problem we run into now is that you've recalibrated and now it's still it's been 6 months the album's supposed to be 6 months ago and we're still waiting for the album that's the problem and that's what you got to work on never too late though let's start it let's get because you're vitamin deficient right yeah yeah cuz like a lot of people can't think straight when they're vitamin deficient and all that a week ago kind of elaborated on that so yeah this isn't therapy um I got shout out Suzie right right huh Susie but she's hot is she not you think my therapist you guys got the same one I could pee and vape on this podcast I got to go pee go pee I could pee yeah I mean I think we I think we end the episode because uh let's wrap it up you can get W available at Walmart anyway if you walk into Walmart whether you with your mom your daddy you by yourself you go in that [ __ ] men body care aisle you buy that and comment down below what you thought of the episode for um us being brain fried over and uh jper but Buzz also comment cuz this coming out when the product releases comment your favorite scent and sent $10,000 right no I'm send you 1,000 I ain't got 10,000 for you but I'll send you 1,000 I'll send someone 10,000 he'll send you 10,000 I'll send you a th000 and I'm going through the comments for sure anyway good luck Charlie and if you got a test soon good luck on that [ __ ] that's what we [Music] do what are those 8 O gloves I want you to know they were talking up there he ain't going easy so be ready all right legit be ready buddy I'm using these bags don't show Too Much don't show we're boxing we're boxing I don't I do that on accident sometimes just know that that might come up just keep your hands up I'm just saying I might throw that up I haven't knocked someone out in a while just cuz my last fight didn't go off it went off five rounds I've been like craving just putting someone's lights out lately it's weird versus your boy better Derek I I hope Sean isn't nice and just [ __ ] him up that's your that's your trainee [ __ ] D all righty folks welcome to your main event of the evening starting out first in the loser corner you have better day with a record of no wins no losses I beat ste's [ __ ] out no anything he is 5'7 120 lbs lost in the mile to better JoJo but he's still delusional in his fighting career and to my left in the winning Corner sponsored by W sugar sha Ali The Undefeated UFC champion of the world it's time to fight bring it to the center we already spoke about the rules in the locker room beforehand give me your glove give me your hand touch gloves I want a clean fair fight no no hits below the waist back to your Corners time you ready judge you ready and fight [Music] [Applause] I'm out of balance or something oh do Dodge that [ __ ] hold on hold on hold on hold [ __ ] come on come on just oh my God one back of the head no no no back of the head four ref didn't see it five six me in the eyes Walk This Way Walk This Way for me he's running Walk This Way for me my car run all right and we're in in that right that's called all right time time time one two that was a that was a slip four up six bro Rizo what the [ __ ] are you doing all right get up SLP all right come on time in come on got come on got you [ __ ] black I'm going to I need to work I need to see some work black UT D somebody said 10 seconds like 8 seconds ago all right great back to your corner back to your corner back to your corner stay in there you're doing good right now this feel good I feel good do you see that one I landed clean on his face I think we all terrible shut the [ __ ] up for once in your [ __ ] life shut the [ __ ] up Sean's doing half punches on him shut up I'll act like uh no don't act like bro I'm just I'm putting in work all right how this how you when you [ __ ] beat the old wash UFC fighters everybody comments you're fighting old was UFC fighters what do you think 10s I think they're right in in round two round two round two oh got him [ __ ] oh [Music] [ __ ] hey put that hey that that's a that's going to be a 10 count can't get me by the that's going to be a 10 count that's going to be a 10 count next time back in the just there going to be a 10 count next time get in there give me real quick get him with some you thank you perfect okay BL I'm going to need to see some more one two back to your corner white Corner neutral Corner 5 6 seven eight n look at me thank you bro come on you want to fight do you want to fight when I do you want to fight yes yeah wait wait time back in wake up time time time time time I promise okay it's to the floor the rules of transfer to MMA tap tap tap he's St he's T he's ta all right I block out all right you're good to go wait wait the fight was over get the [ __ ] out of the ring oh it's over it's over it's over it's over go you got it's over it's over it's over [Music]	up on well that's what I was going to say we can't just Grace past that do you is that that's a that's a bold thing to say do you you know he's on coke is that a is that are you [ __ ] gills I don't know anything but I know for certain that he's brother like look at the time of the tweets and look at what he's saying like also and he's like known for this simar tweets yeah yeah I don't know just manic brother I think he is I do think Ryan is I think he when he said he was playing into it a little bit I I think he's kind of using that I think he's [ __ ] crazy what what what would happen if you and Ryan boxed that's I mean there's only one way to find out he has a lot better chances of beating me in a boxing match than he does in a real fight keep up I do I I [ __ ] I truly believe in myself that's how I got to the [ __ ] position I'm in right now I can box I can throw hands um I don't think it'd be easy by any means I do think it's possible I beat him I'm not saying my my odds are great but I do believe I could beat Ryan Bo if there was anybody you could box for your first boxing match	2	8	7	up on well that's what I was going to say we can't just Grace past that do you is that that's a that's a bold thing to say do you you know he's on coke is that a is that are you [ __ ] gills I don't know anything but I know for certain that he's brother like look at the time of the tweets and look at what he's saying like also and he's like known for this simar tweets yeah yeah I don't know just manic brother I think he is I do think Ryan is I think he when he said he was playing into it a little bit I I think he's kind of using that I think he's [ __ ] crazy what what what would happen if you and Ryan boxed that's I mean there's only one way to find out	he has a lot better chances of beating me in a boxing match than he does in a real fight keep up I do I I [ __ ] I truly believe in myself that's how I got to the [ __ ] position I'm in right now I can box I can throw hands um I don't think it'd be easy by any means I do think it's possible I beat him I'm not saying my my odds are great but I do believe I could beat Ryan Bo if there was anybody you could box for your first boxing match	2,3,6	8,5,9	2	3	6	8	5	9
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXPZ1KzdpsY	4,103	mXPZ1KzdpsY	2024-06-20 00:00:00	well well well ladies and gentlemen do we have a special episode for you today none other than sugar Shan om Ali the current UFC bantamweight champion a legend in his own right this episode was off the cusp we were a little turned up Jasper was really really drunk so we weren't really prepared for this at all the conversations definitely got wild and obviously as you guys have seen over maybe the past week or so we launched a new company called w am men's carine in Walmart this company is so near and dear to my heart and I partnered with Shawn to bring this Vision to life amongst other celebrities artists and athletes that we are announcing over the next couple of weeks here get your w at Walmart it is very very very very very good stuff and yes you heard the news I am fighting Mike Perry on July 20th it is going down I'm still fighting Mike Tyson November 15th that is happening but I'm staying active knocking out Mike Perry on July 20th and I'm excited for y'all to listen to this episode and he the vision of w how it all came together and how Shawn got involved and then everything to do with Shawn's career this podcast has been a long time coming but prepare yourself for some idiocracy per usual uh this is [ __ ] with Jake Paul we have a secret handshake check it out AC let me get that stop playing mean yeah we created that because we actually have so many things to get into here this has been a long time coming Jasper did bring up something and the reason W was created was because the other products in the category had harmful dyes parabens sulfates hormone disruptors and so we wanted to create the better for you vitamin infused product and and Sean's a co-owner just signed today yesterday for the show but we we'll get into all of that we we've been you know bringing sea on for like we've been talking for like a month and a half yes sir yes sir um it is currently May we've been doing a lot of shoots this podcast will probably come out at post W launch you can get I'm so drunk I'm sorry y'all you can get it in uh Walmart every Walmart you in Paca Walmart get it in you in Pensacola it's in Walmart in Kentucky Walmart Walmart so basically uh we we brought in the greatest people in the world to help build W and Sean is one of those people but dialing everything back we will get into the company the body washes how this all came about but uh we've been wanting to do this podcast and thanks for joining us BR hey guys hey thanks for joining us right did you uh yeah I did you sh for an hour bro did you did you do do we know do we set the stage of the day and the fact that Jasper's slash right now okay cool y drunk is a [ __ ] y like double drunk yep yep yep you drunk yeah all that so um but just winding everything back uh I think we've been friends for a long time in fact you were the first guest on this show oh [ __ ] crazy Zoom crazy that's right that's right that's right the first ever episode you zoomed in and that's crazy we're thankful we're thankful for our friendship and it's pretty cool that now we're here again today uh getting less views than before and that's fire that's it congratulations less views we're not we're not it was it was a joke it was a joke if you watching this please like and comment cuz we falling off right now but man by the time this comes out you're going to be getting ready for me RAB how do you say his name I don't remember morab is iTab or or I don't know me that's got to be it me but you got to say it with the emphasis look meab mirab meab meab there you go there you go so yeah I should be getting ready hopefully I ain't got nothing scheduled hopefully uh you know Uncle Dana will call me say hey buddy you want to fight in in here and there and there and then I'm d b boom and that that's how that works what's up with everybody on your body though everybody talking [ __ ] even people youat I wanted to bring up yeah and he's like saying like he's trying to post about you even yesterday it is weird but when you concuss someone you know what I just say they don't think as well as they used to so I think he's still concussed and he's a little confused because he's talking [ __ ] still he not in his right mind because I can just throw up another post go because it's a throwback Thursday it's a throwback Friday do you think do you think people don't respect you enough cuz I I see that as your friend an unbiased like they just see social media and podcasts and the the hair and stuff like that and then they just sh week but I [ __ ] with you I appr that um I don't think it is well you can't you know I think it's fine I think you're jealous I ain't going to lie I got some inches under here let's smell that hair you can smell my [ __ ] must who I do think I feel a little bit disrespected as the champ but I think that last fight against Che kind of you know shut a little bit of people up canny go five rounds Cheeto beat me before the Alo fight um shut a lot of people up canny grapple didn't have to Grapple cuz he couldn't take me down yeah Alo couldn't take you down I think that was the biggest thing where they were like yo that's his weakness like yeah wrestle him down and then he just proved everyone wrong that's what's so interesting about this morab fight is he's supposedly well he is he's [ __ ] good at wrestling he's really really good at wrestling he's boring as [ __ ] and no one will there won't be one comment saying yeah right he's actually kind of fun not one person I'm com won I'm com you can I ask you something would you put yourself in your own top five Strikers in the UFC oh I'm yeah yo easily who's your Mount Rushmore strikker well I I mean I would unbiasedly I would put him as number one because adna is in like top three but he also like got beat by put that [ __ ] down boy he did uh bro I'm up there I'm up there Max is really good Max super his striking that's a good top five there that's four me Max Elia adaga uh I'm sure I'm missing some your with a one would it be that's that's a minus one Mount rmore is four yeah but I only got four but if you throw the five in it's a plus one isn't there only four yeah but but you ready to throw the five up I'm four all right that's my more but yeah once again uh this is a [ __ ] ass podcast so we apologize hey but something something you just touched on you talked about Fighters being fun and interesting how much and you're you're a superstar how much of you being a superstar how much of any fighter being a superstar comes down to them being fun and interesting as you are and how much of it comes down to their actual fighting good question uh well who's a super who who obviously Connor comes to mind I think he's he's a character he's fun he's interesting who else comes to mind is like a superstar I would say Izzy gives that off I think he's an interesting guy other than that there's not like a ton of fun like Ryan Garcia is doing a really good job right now of being [ __ ] interesting being a character uh I think that's fentel I think it's drugs as well I wouldn't deny that but he's still making people interested in Ryan versus Devon Haney was an interesting fight not because Devon Haney that dude's boring as [ __ ] you think he did them roids no I don't think Ryan did I think Devon needs to take that L he being a [ __ ] about I think the craziest [ __ ] you said to me and like I don't even know if we want to put this in there or bring it up but we we can always remove it but uh because of your your situation with the ostarine and you said to me like and it I like fully felt your energy you're like I swear on my daughter's life I never did that and you got popped for it yeah same thing happened uh to Ryan right now he popped for aost the low super low level a some [ __ ] like a trillionth of a gr the same thing happened to me uh so when that came out with Ryan like I truly truly didn't believe he took anything because it was the same [ __ ] and it happens to a lot of [ __ ] ostarine happens to how does that happen it's called the tainted supplement so if you're taking anything that has protein in it that's not third party tested uh could not just protein any kind of supplement that's not third party tested it's either NSF or there's a bunch of different third party tests but if you're not if you're taking something that doesn't have that there's chances there could be something in it but austram people pop for that all the time my case was not that big of a deal cuz I wasn't as huge of a star as I am now but it still was like a big deal because of my name the reason it's going so crazy right now is because Ryan G is a superstar so people are freaking out but it happens to a lot of athletes I just before we move past it I just on that Superstar topic how is that is that Superstar factor that that someone like you has someone like Ryan has someone like Connor has is it something you're born with or is it is it a practice is it something you can learn and do you sit back and like think like oh how can I go viral today how can I I think it's both I think you have to want to be a superstar there's some guys in the UFC like I want to make more money I want this I want that but they don't really want to be a superstar you you got to want it you got to you got to have some kind of vision a long time before well and and also like who you are as a person you have to have that like Fire Within still though like before you got into want famous I want to be in the NFL I want to be NBA I wanted to be a [ __ ] athlete when I was young was instilled I was just for whatever reason I wanted to make it when I was young I'm from H in Montana like small ass can I ask you something what's your opinion on like the take b nickel takes like where he's like super friendly and humble and like I think he's a sweet ass [ __ ] they love him but like bro that [ __ ] pisses me off I think that [ __ ] is cool too n like you're a hum like [ __ ] talk your [ __ ] you're what 670 like bro talk your [ __ ] like it it kind of bores me no I get yeah I mean that's that's some people's opinion is like he's too nice too humble too that but he's being himself um but he's also super young in the sport I think he and he's still pretty what is he 28 you're in a sport of War if I was playing like [ __ ] Cricket I would be like yeah like but that's that's the thing is for for for a character like him what it seems like is that's what he's in is the sport of war and that's it he's not in the sport of entertainment he's a nice ass sweetheart get there is some people that that understand both sides of things but I also have respect for and I see when someone's that's strictly in the sport of if I play chess with you I'm going to be like good game and I'm going to shake your hand I talk [ __ ] be F ass to a PO it I'm going to be like [ __ ] you you need to get better at whatever you're doing dial dialing it back a little bit um to the aost stream thing I think it's like what do you think about Conor tweeting still at like 3:00 a.m. like coked out he he he he sent shots at me and Ryan talking [ __ ] but it's it's crazy coming from Connor who literally got out of the usada pool to do steroid like legit steroids so it's kind of wild and I was the biggest Connor fan for a long time in the last couple weeks ever since he sent that wasn't even a couple weeks ago probably a week ago I've been trying to hate him I've been trying to be like [ __ ] you Connor but I can't I love Connor I it's like I am excited for his fight coming up I'm excited I want you know I'm all about it what's the fight is it Chandler Chandler in June it's going to be big they just been trying to do it for a long time so I didn't know if it still still I think officially I think it's I think I think the craziest part about it is what like eight weeks before a fight that he's still like coked and drunk out of his mind who you got though who that's a good it is crazy that he still like he tweeted that deleted like 20 minutes later he was definitely [ __ ] up on well that's what I was going to say we can't just Grace past that do you is that that's a that's a bold thing to say do you you know he's on coke is that a is that are you [ __ ] gills I don't know anything but I know for certain that he's brother like look at the time of the tweets and look at what he's saying like also and he's like known for this simar tweets yeah yeah I don't know just manic brother I think he is I do think Ryan is I think he when he said he was playing into it a little bit I I think he's kind of using that I think he's [ __ ] crazy what what what would happen if you and Ryan boxed that's I mean there's only one way to find out he has a lot better chances of beating me in a boxing match than he does in a real fight keep up I do I I [ __ ] I truly believe in myself that's how I got to the [ __ ] position I'm in right now I can box I can throw hands um I don't think it'd be easy by any means I do think it's possible I beat him I'm not saying my my odds are great but I do believe I could beat Ryan Bo if there was anybody you could box for your first boxing match debut who are you Bo give an easy fight give me Deon Haney you give [Laughter] me honest answer uh I mean if we're I I would say Floyd if I Pi if I could sit here and pick who I box first boxing fight I pick Floyd because it would be the biggest most crazy most legendary fight maybe not most legendary some people for me okay but outside of that on a skill based level oh I I could hang with some good [ __ ] pro boxers I'm undefeated in boxing you think you think if you and uh ilot boxed that' be ilot is very very [ __ ] skilled boxing that's an interesting question so who what what professional boxer would you equate your PA Mike Tyson I know of Devon Haney now because Ryan Garcia beat him uh dvon Davis he's really short I know him um maybe smacking [ __ ] up though he does he that little guy he can't he can't ride roll coasters though that is true so there's a there's a tradeoff like Cruz fight he was riding a roller coaster no like I'm talking about like at the fair oh no you know like there there's a trade-off in life you know where things get weird it's like it's like yo he's really good but you can't even just hit Dante fan brother can't even ride the top not a Dante fan that's not what I'm wait what did what did I say to say I'm not a you didn't say I mean I don't think he knows that it's a short joke I don't think he picked up on you want me tell him I was joking shut the [ __ ] up I get I say that was a joke I'm what are you trying to say I'm but are you trying to insinuate that I'm short no honestly you're probably what five you're 5'9 you're like 5' seven and a half stop doing stop doing it stop doing that cuz [ __ ] is going to see this and be like he's 5'6 actually if you watching this and you think I'm 5'6 and you want to try me in person please any [ __ ] who see me out I'm punching your [ __ ] out I'm like 5'9 on a good day when when I'm lying to women I'm 5'10 for sure who's gonna ID me I'm wearing forces I'm a [ __ ] liar all right so now for the truth jakee he's like what like he's 5 No but don't do that bro all right all right we won't we'll cut that out like yeah n don't cut it out n don't see me and see these but you know dvon is 5'5 legit that's cool bro I know but is that not short just be honest is that five five short for a grown man for a grown man is that short you can be a fan I'm not I'm a fan of javante and he's five that's a little little bro all right the joke went over his head anyways so the short joke [ __ ] is trying to play me like I'm short no no no we're we're not we're not you're [ __ ] tall all right let's pivot yeah so um SI yeah sh shout out to the shout out to the pivot but but yeah like Jasper's a little riled up things are on edge he's a little he's a little turned up it's been a long day a long two days we've been shooting uh because we have a new [ __ ] company did we say we talk about that yet I we said in the beginning raise your arms up [ __ ] goed [ __ ] goed shout out to w a fun few days it's been a fun few days days you're going to see the content rolling out um but you speaking of but Ruby Rose did a good job oh my God I wanted to bite that M listen anyway if you're near wmart if you're watching this right now I don't give a [ __ ] what you're doing you could be taking care of your kid you could be taking care of your elderly parents [ __ ] them go to Walmart June 1st Nationwide I don't care if you in Pensacola you in Massachusetts all in places that sound [ __ ] stupid there's a Walmart there and you go there it's a better for you product vitamin ifuse number [ __ ] one yeah no basically I I think dialing back like the business story of it because you're also like a very smart businessman intellectual doing everything you do in and outside of the Ring which a lot of people don't have which contributes to you being uh the biggest in my opinion the biggest UFC star um but yeah we we basically I guess this is the podcast where we tell people where W came from but um we started building this company like a year and a half ago and really saw how all these other companies like as we move into better for you products and less harmful products we saw how the leaders in the space didn't have the best formulas didn't have the best manufacturing had all of these harmful substances in it and we're also brands from when I was like 9 years old I don't want to list names but they're still like having all the Shelf space in stores and I was just like this is wild like this is boring this is lame the the the we need something new we need something that's better uh males have vitamin uh deficiencies like crazy especially with magnesium Jasper just can't get enough of it uh especially with magnesium um and biotin is in the body wash uh vitamin E one two of the best vitamins for your skin and hair um but as The Story Goes long story short we we come up with this brand that represents so many things um but I think winning in everyday life whether you're the valedictorian whether you are the high school jock whether you're philanthropist now you have a product that you can embody and wear every single day that's increasing your vitamin intake that is less harmful to you that's where the idea came from and just being the winning formula in category uh went to Walmart pitched them the whole idea they [ __ ] loved it helped us build the brand even and come up with the scent profiles and all the things that are the the most popular um and this has been something I've wanted to do for so long we had to bring in the best people to be a part of it the winners in their category and that's number one Numero Uno sha Ali here um and he instantly saw the vision and already in the past couple of days it's been like super fun filming all the content behind yeah I was pumped when you [ __ ] called me appreciate you thinking of me and uh excited to help grow this business [ __ ] it's needed it's needed we're going to take over the whole bathroom you know tooed if you [ __ ] with the dogs and cows and chickens dog in you I know what I got that dog in me and I use it so be dog free baby am I missing anything with that no I think that was great the one the one thing I would touch on and you did in a way but it's it is body wash it is body spray it is deodorant but it also is there's an ethos that stands behind this brand which is the ethos that you stand for and it's the ethos that you stand for and the ethos that you stand for and the one that I stand for if I say ethos again I'm GNA start stumbling over my words but it's it's it's like you said it it doesn't the winners in life aren't just you you're on a big stage in life you're you're you're crushing it in every aspect financially you're a star you're leading your sport that's awesome on every [ __ ] level it's it's an encouragement to to young men all around the world to [ __ ] get up off their ass and get sh it don't matter if you score high on a test you whatever the [ __ ] it is that you do well maybe not so it matters what the [ __ ] you do but it also doesn't matter what the [ __ ] you do anybody is a winner as long as you put in the work and you have the will to win and I love it I I would say that's wrong I would say that not anybody is a winner and I think that's something that the brand also stands for like you really got to win you got to as you have the will to win no I'm just saying I think that's an important point cuz we live in a world today where a lot of people think everybody can be a winner that's not true if you Los you might be a loser and if you're a loser the good news is there's a hidden l in the logo actually we'll trace it for you with our graphic design team there's a hidden l in the logo because and I I I wanted to make sure that was was a thing because the biggest loss of my life turned out to be the biggest W in my life and I always had the saying like two L's make a w and when I lost to Tommy Fury it was embarrassing all these things but I realized I wasn't focused I wasn't as locked in as I could be the team around me from a boxing standpoint wasn't good I was having personal issues with relationships and all of these things that I had to shed and grow from and I grew into this new and completely different person but I wouldn't have done that if I didn't lose on the biggest stage possible and I think that was part of the ethos ethos ethos ethos of the brand was to encourage people that in their lowest moments to turn those into into their biggest W's eventually when Jake just said that the biggest loss of his life ended up being the biggest W of his life you said same yeah yeah same what what was that story for supposedly lost for lost to Cheeto back in 2020 August it it was I mean it sucked at the time but I it didn't suck too bad because I was like okay I didn't lose because I you know and it was different I wasn't I mean I was focused everything went good training camp everything was good but I was like that sucks I'm goingon to get that back someday when the time is right and then my last fight two two months ago in Miami headline I'm the champ defending my belt against that same guy how rewarding was that three and a half years later August three and a half years later boom beat his ass as a fan of yours it made it so sweet because of all the doubters that constantly like put you down and didn't believe in you and said he was going to destroy you and then you he literally like you embarrass him that was a performance of a life you embarrassed the [ __ ] out of him and I think that's literally a prime example of turning l l into into a w and I really that's what that's where the hidden l in the brand in the logo is um and representing that every single day when you see these products in your bathroom and when we say we have a saying it's not just a product it's a lifestyle absolutely trademarked Incorporated All Rights Reserved 2024 brother uh but but yeah man it's it's an honor to have you a part of this and uh we we really made what we think are the best products on the market from the body wash being exfoliating vitamin infused to the body spray what we found out is a lot of these fragrances like you get like these high-end designer brands that have like $500 colognes turns out it only cost them a dollar to make that and they're literally making like $499 on top of that so we had a fine fragrance house is what these places are called and we got the super expensive scents and gave it to people to what they're worth like we're not trying to these products are super super affordable and I think it's so funny because that's the world we live in where like you just label something and get like a European girl to go this is one of the lower priced men's care products on the market yeah if I'm not mistaken and it's it's the $500 fragrance in the affordable bottle because we want everyone we've been using a body wash in the past two days since we got the samples after the shoot and I personally want to say I got the in there you could bleep it out whatever you want to do W's winning n b genuinely that's that's the saying is the it's winning formula cuz it really is like it really is if if we're going to call our company [ __ ] W it has to be the best we the winners winning product indeed indeed winning customers all that type of [ __ ] indeed better Derek today he's just got a punch I'm not Li I talked to him before he left he wants to punch you up bro he's got a punchable face I like him though it's weird it's like God I like that guy but I want [ __ ] KO pick him up and like it's okay boom one more to the liing me earlier and I'm just letting you know don't shoot the messenger on God he said he wants to get in the ring with you I can call him really he oh yeah he he you want to call him yeah where is he at is wait uh no call no call he's coming up oh um he's talking smack he said he actually wants a spar I swear to God he said he wants to get percentage should I go you guys I literally out let that's crazy timeing saying talk [ __ ] to my face if you're going to talk [ __ ] that's crazy timing what were you saying they were telling me you want to get in the ring and Spar bit or they didn't say Spar they said fight yeah I'm down to do either but uh yeah no I'm just sick of the [ __ ] [ __ ] you've been saying on your podcast uh you called me you made fun of my weight and you called me gay I did not no I well okay okay you said that he wouldn't ever say that what you got to say what your chest that's what I just [ __ ] said bro I he was like oh if I if stand on it you talking to him you talking to him you ain't talking to me my assistant Sono would would piece you he's never boxed a day he never I'm here to fight your video I'm here to fight you what did I what was the first thing I said to you when when I saw you what was the first thing I said to you that we could fight no I said you look thick wait but when we were talking earlier weren't you saying he's a [ __ ] and you wanted to get a ring with him and all type [ __ ] what I'm saying right now say it then I just said the [ __ ] ring so we can after this we have a ring 2 feet away and he's a [ __ ] and whatever else you was saying to me yeah he's [ __ ] what about my hair say something about my hair I I already said that at the W shoot that you look like you haven't showered in [ __ ] a week okay all right d hey buddy hey hey what's your long-term play not no but see you guys you guys are making me seem crazy you're out of your mind he Derek Dereck go warm up hit the hit the heavy back H the warm up is almost listen legendary as send location dble PIV go warm up hey hey double pivot sit sit I'm not [ __ ] no I I'll sit and talk but I'm not [ __ ] no sit on the floor walk you want to take my seat hey how much how much of what's going on ch ch how much of what's going on is is a character versus like actual delusion how much is a character yeah decent uh I would say there are times where I know what I have to do for my boxing career to like like we all why is he laughing cuz you said career I beat your [ __ ] boy your [ __ ] [ __ ] bro you know what I I recall you did beat I recall calling steiny saying what the [ __ ] was that buddy I love steiny but I do remember watching that and thinking I wasn't proud of that I was not proud of that from steiny and I wish I wish he would come to the gym I wish he'd get in there I wish he'd train a little bit and I wish he would have a rematch but that's on him I've been trying to get the rematch but he's been ding me do you think Derek won he said I won I thought I thought he won I'd have to rewatch but I do think I come on baby the comments have [ __ ] dragged me for months after that [ __ ] 99% of the comments say I lost so please say it one more time Sean no I said it what I said it's like therapy or something no but to answer your question uh we all know uh uh as Fighters there's a side of promotion stop [ __ ] first of all Gus shut the [ __ ] up our our audio guys uh like can't stop laughing is that the facial his facial hair or is what he's saying bro that's bold of you to talk facial hair bro that's bold of you to I'm not Li you look dirty you look like Jeffrey done training right Jesus I train every day but anyway we know like there's two sides of of promotion as well as the actual athletic competition that is Combat Sports so there are times where I might play up a little bit like hey promoting but let him go let him go all right if you if all if you think I'm all promoting that I'll see you in the [ __ ] ring and I'll knock both you either of you out well um well Jake's a [ __ ] fat [ __ ] right now he weighs like 240 so I got I goty I gotta pick my words wisely like he's Jake's 240 I I know I know but like I'm not going to sit here and pick a fight against somebody that's 240 when I'm se's my weight class when I stopped you in one round like just like but when I was getting started out of come this is where I'm at since then I told him he could have somebody tag team I'm down I'm down to fight anybody in this [ __ ] room not one person in this room I'm the best part about this is like uh right after this we I think you're you're down to do like one round or three minutes right I mean I'd prefer 12 but we okay yeah 12 I mean that my biggest advantage in the ring ring is my cardio I do 12 12 okay so no I have a genuine question so five round I'm not I'm not one have I ever said I'm a UFC fighter no I'm just say we can box I'm just saying that's I'm used to five you want to do three we could do that aren't you trying to be a boxer with your [ __ ] Ryan Garcia call he would knock knock your [ __ ] ass out so quickly it wouldn't be close I'm one and0 pro boxing what are you actually I saw that video I saw video I'm also want to know thank you officially hey they count that's real commiss but uh I didn't mean I didn't mean to take I didn't mean to take over the pot I just wanted to a couple you definitely didn't yeah okay I try I'm trying to help you no we love you go warm up yeah yeah go warm up the bags don't warm up too much though don't get tired how much do you wa right now without Timberlands and jean shorts on high 120 low 13 no without lying though okay that [ __ ] is you think you got you got him one round I think I could beat him I think I can beat him I I think I could handicap myself to three just put on one glove I could do that what do you think actually happens now when you go downstairs and he gets in that ring like what's his plan that's what I don't get about him but that's why it's that's do me a favor that's why he's Cloud it up because love [ __ ] up [ __ ] he's going he's going to try to Yap he's going to try to talk please just go 100% yeah no actually actually please go 100% if he signs a consent form we'll have him no we've already got like multiple consent forms for better media with like death wavers [ __ ] no no no but he needs it he needs that I'll go like 40 no go like 75 Sean I'm I'm going to be honest bro don't even go 20% he's the nice [ __ ] bro don't do that bro you want him to go 100% no no to be honest but just like work with him and then just like maybe just just like a really good punching and then he'll give up 75% uh I'm nervous man I'm shaking for Derek yeah yeah that's good I understand that there a couple flinches if you Flinch hard enough the the wind coming off you will put him down let him walk you down and bait him boom sleeping what's your next upcoming fight a maraba jaaba and when is that uh not nothing yet I'm hoping for September maybe October maybe November maybe December I'm F ready to go baby what if it was next month I wouldn't be ready to go I like I like 10 to 12 weeks 10 to 12 he likes eight I mean I I normally do like 10 yeah just like but I've been super the first few weeks are [ __ ] pre-amps this Camp I'm channeling my Ryan Garcia would you ever do a Ryan Garcia regiment during Camp drink and smoke every night you do a little I I probably yeah I'm not actually doing that for the people out there he's locked in clocked in locked in locked in ready to go yeah May 20th we start but by the time the people see this it'll be uh June or something like that that is crazy you're fighting Mike that you fought Ben asran wrestler good good [ __ ] UFC was really good UF bit Tyron Woodley twice Anderson Silva knockout of the year with Nate Robinson can't forget about deji deji the the the goat do we say Gibb or is that like that's just crazy resume like literally [ __ ] C by way thank you Gib cuz we had a really good party after he knocked you the [ __ ] out who W we're skipping two professional boxers this always no no the recent ones this always happens I'm trying to just think cuz two cuz this is what everybody asked for this is what everybody asked for who who are the two professional boxers you fighted you got to name them Andre August and Ryan Borland go okay people don't people are like fight a pro boxer and then I do and then they're like that was boring as a man of combat he what were 10 and one nine and one nine and one what is your take on his [ __ ] all of his fights and who he's fighting in the competition dude I've been excited as [ __ ] since I started I remember you I remember the first time I watched was the Nate Robinson I watched that one at home and then uh I don't remember what it was after that but I remember watching Ben Asam in Atlanta I think that was the first time we actually met was right after the fight I think we hugged I was like y I picked you up you carried me back to the locker room that it was love at first sight that was crazy actually yeah actually I [ __ ] with him we became best friends like a couple days later you going to leave me hanging no no I would it's my eyebrow but uh yeah no I think he's obviously super skilled I think it's and I I it's inspired me even in the position I'm at UFC World Champ sexy you know what I mean like tall dark handsome TR inspired me just business the business uh side of things that you've done I've always thought putting on massive fight that's why I'm such a huge Conor fan cuz the pay-per-views he's done is so [ __ ] he's been fighting for four years and [ __ ] that he's been doing the massive fights the fights I get excited for there's a few UFC fights the high the big big fights that I get excited for but every time you fought even when uh Logan fought Floyd I was [ __ ] like excited like all fight week so i' I've been inspired from what you've done from a business side from the boxing side they even just start so not late but for a boxer but these boxers start when they're [ __ ] three four years old like Ryan and tank like they're young buck the Tik Tac I sent you of Devon Haney's debut fight yeah it's wild he was fighting a five foot Mexican in a in a bar was it Dante bro if I show you this [ __ ] oh no I did see that I did see that I did see that when you started even seeing that first video fighting Anderson Silva six fights in bro like do you know how insane that is he's one of the greatest correct me if I'm wrong UFC Strikers in history yeah 100% so does that make me one of the greatest UFC Strikers and one of the greatest wrestlers cuz wood but Ben ask was but Nate Diaz is ducking me in MMA oh am crazy I am weak that's a sick fight MMA I I wish it was that would happened right after the boxing same he's actually ducking it which is why it's crazy because he's not he's not in UFC no but we we upped it to 15 million damn that's crazy though that would be a I like Nate Diaz but that would be such a fun buildup he actually doesn't want to do it all Sean how do you genuinely Jake's not here it's me and you in a room actually how do you see that fight going for Jake what MMA him you're not here J for Nate in MMA keep it a bean God it's it's so hard to you're a big [ __ ] right now on what weight would it be5 185 I don't hate I don't I it's not a it's a winable fight for you I really do think that but Nate is so [ __ ] you would have to do what I did against aljo and morab do not let that [ __ ] grab you not that you can't wrestle cuz I know you can wrestle but once he starts grabbing you and doing Jiu-Jitsu if he gets on top his little he likes his little trips it would be hard for you to win I feel like if he if he started grappling just pure Jiu-Jitsu if it let's be real if it goes to the floor is he [ __ ] if he's on his back Nate's not like a super strong guy so if you learn how to like I mean I'm sure you know how to get up to a single legegg stuff like that but then you start getting your neck grabbed I don't know how much Jiu-Jitsu you know I mean Nate's a [ __ ] high Lev black belt um if you could keep it standing 100% there's winnable ways there if he if he went to the ground feel like he might be able to grab your neck no that that's exactly how I feel about it if I don't get guillotined yeah then I win the fight because even if he was on top take your back but even if he was on top of me I would just throw him off of me cuz he's also the weakest puncher I've ever fought like when he was hitting me I was I almost like started laughing I'm I'm not even saying this to talk [ __ ] out of everyone I've sparred in my whole entire life and everyone I fought his punches are even me we I don't think you ever landed a punch on me is that true well that's not true so I don't anyone no I'm literally not even talking [ __ ] which is why I think it's funny that he dropped Connor and [ __ ] cuz it's just like how Conor with like to the ground yeah like with a straight left hand yeah which is crazy like I I'm not just talking [ __ ] when I say that and I've told you I've literally told you this you told me this after the fight yeah I was like he is the weakest puncher I've ever fought in my life who's who's the weakest puncher you've ever you've ever come to face um there I mean there's been so many fights where I later didn't even get hit um uh does that like make you jaded at all when you get into a fight and you don't really get love that [ __ ] I prefer not to get hit at all but like if I was you and I wasn't get hit at all I'd probably work less no no no no I I know I don't get hit because I work that hard so if I didn't work hard I know I'd probably get hit I'm just a lazy [ __ ] so so here you are on top of the world we're launching [ __ ] W going to be a billion dollar business [ __ ] you I always forget uh UFC champ accomplishing all your goals what do you want next uh what are what is the threeyear fiveyear for Sean I I truly do want to get a boxing fight I'm not I'm not super set on that to where like I'm like going to be [ __ ] if it doesn't happen I do think it'll be interesting especially if I go out there knock morab out Ryan does his thing I think there's a [ __ ] sweet fight there if it doesn't happen not that worried about it want to go out there beat morab I'd like to you know if Max Max and Elia fight I would like to fight go move up to 45 fight the winner of that um you know maybe have three to five maybe have a few more kids definitely want another little baby I love kids my fite pump him out shout out to Danny who's your top pick in a boxing fight though if you if you could choose your Ryan now was like the I mean what he after dvon Beat Ryan I was like javante then Ryan goes out there does his thing really though I think Dante do you is that is that not a big [ __ ] leap Ryan like you said before he's been doing this his whole life one thing that's been proven is that the crossover it's it's not a good return Fury he did his thing okay the excep is the exception we've seen it with okay but then Anthony Joshua put his ass t was crazy super night night he was I'm I'm here for big fights like I wanted to get into the UFC and I wanted to make big fights watching Conor versus Floyd I'm like that [ __ ] happened really happened hey you versus Derek that could be as big as Connor in Floyd but no but I I think the craziest [ __ ] about Conor versus Floyd is that overall it was a W for everyone involved so there's certain fights where it just like doesn't matter what happens that's the world we live in yeah I mean UFC told me they said if the if the fight's big enough and it'll make the UFC money they'll do it what means more to you your your your record being pre or the amount of money you're making all right let me ask you something it's about to get real J's drunk Jasper's drunk as [ __ ] y record or money [ __ ] it depends the Gap like like the gap of money if it's like an extra 10 15 20 million but I lose a couple important fights probably not you just take like 150 million I'll be like like [ __ ] my record baby yeah it depends on the gap of money Jake Paul is not here right now just like a Mayweather Conor McGregor you taking that fight ver Jake yeah no he's my buddy I could I mean I don't I don't even no I no funny no there's you know what's funny is always in my Snapchat story once once a day pretty much someone says we knock out Jake Paul like there's every sing all the time for so long people just want to see me get [ __ ] is good though that's like the thing yeah but I'm sensitive it is funny though people [ __ ] love to hate confidence the craziest thing though actually about both of you like I met you very recently like I didn't realize you're as like normal as you are I don't know why I thought you violent like you guys are both like very goofy mellow and stupid and c and and awesome it's like the greatest thing ever like I couldn't believe when I met you you're like one of us like yeah I wouldn't think you're a [ __ ] yeah one of the coolest people in the world for sure yeah but not a lot of people uh can like I don't know we have like a weird it's hard toes Meat Heads I'm like this the this my dog I think it's a little bit of dark humor too it's like some [ __ ] up [ __ ] that we say off camera [ __ ] sometimes but I think it's like there's a certain yeah like that's how my whole group is back home it's like we all just we're all just kind of [ __ ] dumb I'm smart but like they're dumb well someone commented like yo Jake Paul's the dumbest genius in the world and I was just like I say that [ __ ] all the time you wed up the other day and I was like this is the most genius dumbass in the world no jokes Hey Brother chill buddy trying to get me cancelled no what how old are you 23 are you really yeah no you're not he's not is he what do you think think what did you think Oh no you're 267 27 what did you think he was I thought he was older I thought he was like 27 26 yeah a niggaer mature was that ladies you got a boo you got a girl you just be slanging she timeout right now I don't really talk about she don't time out it's a little tricky she not taking care of herself what do you guys think about Tom Brady R you watch it yeah they kept comp panning to you every 5 Seconds bro I swear there's a huge camer sitting there the whole time but it's cool to see Netflix going hard like that cuz they went hard they swing that meat around huha yeah let's pivot yeah just sorry about him I'm drunk man not yeah but but it was it was great it wasar they should have got rid of most of the football players going up there yeah there's a couple ones Ben afflac is that who that was on there that was wild that was so weird that was so weird it was cool to see how [ __ ] less sensitive people are becoming I feel like feel like it's recently like there's a big push back I think people got sick of it we went super super super PC for a long time people were like wait a second we like being able to say what we want to say I saw kill Tony say oh type of crazy [ __ ] on there that watch every [ __ ] Monday you were on kill Tony yeah how old are you actually buddy I'm a comedian Budd full time no yeah I was on that I was nervous as hell though I was like just being it's a live I do podcast once a week like me and Tim do our podcast every [ __ ] week but to be there in front of an audience live it's weird it's a different kind of well so you say Tim but let's let's talk about actually the fact that you get trained by by one of the greatest boxers of all time it's really that's something what's happened like that's crazy working with Canelo as your as your coach that's what I'm saying people don't going to be Ryan but like yeah that is true I never even thought about that for did you even know that this guy proba even know that that orange [ __ ] is nice wait will I get cancelled by the ginger community no you're black oh no my dad my dad's Ginger and I'm I'm like this [ __ ] is ginger bro he be shaving he be shaving his beard and I zoom in zoom in it's it's slightly orange so I'm a quarter ginger on South Park they made fun of Gingers and that [ __ ] made the news I [ __ ] with the ginger people but like y'all [ __ ] you like redhead girls oh yeah was Super Soaker but anyway yeah like y'all [ __ ] is orange and that's okay but back to you one of y'all that's not drunk I got a question cuz this guy clipped out a lot did Tim actually like you guys about him like saying to fight that was yeah that was real Tim always be talking [ __ ] to the like he's been doing that for so long so what happened he just talk I mean he just he Alo the knee's coming Alo you got to shoot Alo watch out for this like he's been saying that since I've been in the UFC like my debut vers terion where he was talking [ __ ] to terion too and uh he just does it every fight but this happened to just be crazy timing to like Tim you got Tim like alre you got to go and like literally he he like that's when he threw that left hand or whatever stepped into Southpaw and uh or stepped into Orthodox and got dropped it was it was funny the timing because he's like Al you got to go I don't I truly don't think that's why that's not why Alo went I bet you could I bet Alo didn't even hear that but Tim's always chirping and stuff but people on the internet are [ __ ] mad about that a lot of them actually like it I'll say majority of people are thinking that's the funniest [ __ ] ever there's a couple [ __ ] that are like you should be banned think it's a fight would you run the alra fight back or one and done never I like that why would I yeah am I supposed to top that you know what I'm saying I got love for Alo we had him on the show and he he seems like a good dude I actually don't mind Alo I does that ever happen where like you'll have a personal relationship with someone personal runin with them and it's all great but then now all of a sudden you have to fight each other I've never had I've not of running with someone that's been like uh more than like I've ran into aljo morab at the UFC I'm like hey what's up talk to him a little bit you know nothing no ill will um but I haven't had like a run with someone I actually lik them mhm and then at the fight them so you're not friends with any any other UFC fighters oh I have a there's there's a couple guys in my in my weight class that I train with at the lab that are like climbing the r uh ladders what happened with uh the 125 pounder I I don't even know his name and I'm not I'm just not like yeah what's his name I Alexander pania bro this story is actually kind of funny so 2016 I think it was it was like 3 and0 4 and0 and I was still fighting at like I fought at 125 not too long before that I fought at like 130 which is in a weight class was like so I wasn't like a 155 like I am now I was probably like 14 back then and uh Henry cejudo comes in I'm three or four and0 at the point at this point it comes in with this kid Alexander PTO just won The Ultimate Fighter I think he's got his UFC debut or it's his second UFC fight he's a couple weeks out from his fight I'm [ __ ] the night before me and Tim ripping bongs like hanging out being goofballs and [ __ ] so the next morning so we brought him in for sparring hry sudo brings in Alexander you're 4-0 he's King [ __ ] he he's just won The Ultimate Fighter and so they write the names on on the board who who you're sparring I'm like oh [ __ ] I got Alexander Pantoja versus me for one round one round he has three rounds so you write one one name then usually you you spar with one guy then they go out you spar with a fresh guy they go out spar with the fresh guy that's usually how it works so my name was just up there for one round that's it we Spar one round I didn't know anything about him cuz I I didn't really watch it like that 25 I don't really watch 25ers like that but somebody's like oh [ __ ] that's he a black belt he just won The Ultimate Fighter I was like oh [ __ ] I got to [ __ ] Focus up here first round boom Dro him with a liver kick and I wasn't going to post I record all my rounds I have so many sparring rounds like I wasn't going to post it was and for some reason I don't know why he would talk [ __ ] and bring it up cuz I literally I don't know you know know I don't know if you know how it works but you finish a guy the fight's over right no no did he um so I finished him the first round he hit him boom with the liver I posted the video yesterday and I've had it for a long time I didn't want to post it CU you don't post sparring like that but he just kept bringing it up so boom finished him first round um then uh after the first round round I go to walk out and Henry's over there crying box of Kleenex just like [ __ ] wiping his tears crying we want you for a second round so mad that this little like I was nobody just finished his dude he's in the UFC he's supposed to be the man finish him in the first round so Henry's crying saying he wants another round um so I piece him up again in the second round and I'm I'm dying at this point my lungs are burning I'm not in shape for fight I I'm nowhere near in Camp for a fight and I my lungs are hurting and uh Henry again crying blowing his nose and like I want you for a third and Benson comes in Benson Henderson absolute Legend comes in and was yelling cuz that's his it was the his gym the MMA lab we don't let people come in our gym and make us tired and blah blah blah and I'm [ __ ] just just huffing and puffing I just got done work in this dude for 10 minutes finished him in the first round did I say that liver kick um we'll put the footage I have the foot yeah it's right there insert the footage so third round come out boom piece him up again and he's so I don't know why he keeps bringing up this bringing this up in the media I think it's because people ask him but I don't know why he doesn't just say yeah yeah no no I don't want to talk about it he keeps saying like he's like oh I got in I found his range and [ __ ] I'm like bro you you stopped him in one round stopped him in round one and let him live and continue to fight for round two these delusional uh like wild people are weirdos but the reason I posted cuz he kept bringing it up exactly wait so is he the champ now at 125 yeah okay but why does he still want to talk [ __ ] to you if you got [ __ ] up that's what I'm saying I don't know either either you drop to 125 and get that no I can't drop to 125 that's too much now you're a thick [ __ ] I am a thick but yeah I SP I think it's important for up and cominging Spar uh fighters to record their rounds and watch their rounds not for that this reason you know but just to I've improve so much watching my sparring y I have thousands of rounds maybe not thousands hundreds of rounds from 10 years ago on my on my computer of uh it's like NFL team is watching footage the time [ __ ] 100% got to watch that [ __ ] that's I I have every single round recorded and and again I I don't post sparring either exactly you know put in a highlight video make a vlog boom we're sparring people but it's never like [ __ ] up your guy yeah exactly but Mike Perry honestly like what he's been doing is pretty Fu he went to Bare knuckle that [ __ ] just meant for him bare knuckle fighting it's crazy different going crazy he's doing good he's [ __ ] undefeated over there he's beating some really good guys stay over here [ __ ] [ __ ] only place that you should be getting tickets from is game time.co it's it's the only place I go it is the only place you can possibly go they have 110% price match guarantee that's what we use to get our tickets for the NBA Finals you can get $20 off your first order go to gametime.co JJ a $20 off your first order they're doing a deal specifically for y'all and you could see where your tickets are before you buy them seeing the seats they have all of the these great policies last 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platform there is Mike Paul versus Jake Tyson here's my official prediction tell us and even if even if it's against me like it's not it's not I do think you're going to beat Mike Tyson uh it's crazy that I even saying that out loud right now cuz you're fighting Mike Tyson it's [ __ ] crazy even just when we were walking down the the street today people all genders all ages knew you were fighting Mike Tyson it's such a massive fights live on Netflix which is [ __ ] crazy it's in a stadium which is [ __ ] crazy it is crazy I believe in you I see what you I see what you're doing I see you know that you believe in yourself Mike Tyson is uh hasn't fought in however long it's been so for him to just come up and get a fight be I I'm sure is going to be in as good a shape as he possibly could be in but it's just you know it's it's it's it's not his time right now I love Mike Tyson I never actually met him but I love Mike Tyson I do think Jake's gonna get the job done and I do think eight rounds eight two-minute rounds eight two-minute rounds I believe I believe you could put them away in the later rounds you know five six seven eight I do think you could put it put him down which is crazy to even [ __ ] think you rap yeah that's fire I'm just lazy and inconsistent that's not a w no that sh it is not you start using Brandon yell at him every day but cuz you can actually spit that's fire no but but people know him now from like podcasting they don't know he's a rapper and hurts his soul J sick name Lil jizz what J JZ that's good that's good you should switch your [ __ ] I switch my [ __ ] from come Master to kill Jas bro honestly though that's I think singing rapping spitting is one of the things that if I could switch talents be doing something like that that's good or twerking I ain't going to lie you shook that [ __ ] earlier I got a I got a thing on me you that [ __ ] wiggle a little bit let's let's pivot though cuz yep hit a pivot uh yeah do we have a speaker should we play Jasper's new song or something you got a new one I thought you were lazy some new [ __ ] go ahead play on your phone just put it in the speaker put it in the mic too this the [ __ ] I'm dropping when I'm Indie that sound decent I'm not rapping either I'm yapping that's not going to get you drunk yo I made this beat that's crazy I like the way you look I won't lie you got something I need you my with a fly girl like you doing with no guy a little sh don't really go outside I'm not crazy right place and right time you all smiles and pretty light brown [Music] [Music] like that better if I forget you but I just can't time saying do better and I'm sure you can find that guy that's worth all right cut it cut it cut it that's that's enough that's enough that's enough that's enough for real can't give the whole thing it's not out yet yeah hey good [ __ ] that's fire I'll be rapping though but that's some pop [ __ ] just cuz I can do it so why are you consistent cuz I'm lazy and jaded and and spoiled yeah it's unfortunate maam shout out to the homies for a lot of talented people out there that just are yeah don't smoke crack yo also there there is a parallel there don't do don't do that there's a parallel with the same thing he's talking about I think Fighters probably where it's like you could have all the talent in the world he's got that's why I get so [ __ ] mad at him it's cuz he has all the talent in the world really I get more pissed off than he gets and he could be a superstar but he just is lazy he doesn't put the work in he's not he's not strategic and it is hard when you got when you live in a crib in Puerto Rico right you got chefs and [ __ ] and you fly private with me yeah that's it that's it bro that's it you got to you got get paychecks and [ __ ] y'all got to evict me that's not a bad idea honestly I think we talked about it let's make I was I'm H we had a conversation but I just can't I can't because I love you so much I need you but then I'll probably be more like need you y yeah I guarante and then we you would still have to like fly in once a week to to do the pods and it would be resentment and then I I'll go out like and I'll try to start shooting at y'all oh my God I guarantee I would be in the position I'm in if I if I had money and like had already made it like financially had [ __ ] I wouldn't have made it that's why people think I'm crazy but CC the other side of it is like boom right so I'm from com California same hey shout out my [ __ ] yeah man I was homeless for the first half of my life mom's a drug addict dad's a gang member I've never had anything in my life right and my whole life has been music I dropped out in ninth grade I was like I'm going to make music my dad kicks me out he's like you can't live under this roof like be more like your brothers my brothers are [ __ ] star students one got a full ride scholarship loser all all type of [ __ ] nerd ass [ __ ] all those [ __ ] are fat and unemploy now one dropped out of school a full rise scholarship and is just sitting at home right so boom from having nothing to like me saying I'm going to risk everything that I have in my life to become a music artist and it works I get to a certain place and I'm like damn I did exactly I hit a ceiling right so it's like now I had to recalibrate he got a big record deal and then and then like use I crashed out and became a m addict for four four days a week for 30 like 90 days oh it's not bad but then I moved cuz my homeboy was like you need to move and I was like nah [ __ ] that I made a million I ain't going to move I'm going to maintain this lifestyle I'm a junkie but I'm rich yep I crashed out and was like yeah I need to move lost 60 lbs went to Puerto Rico locked in recalibrated and now I'm ready to be but that's that's here's the problem we run into now is that you've recalibrated and now it's still it's been 6 months the album's supposed to be 6 months ago and we're still waiting for the album that's the problem and that's what you got to work on never too late though let's start it let's get because you're vitamin deficient right yeah yeah cuz like a lot of people can't think straight when they're vitamin deficient and all that a week ago kind of elaborated on that so yeah this isn't therapy um I got shout out Suzie right right huh Susie but she's hot is she not you think my therapist you guys got the same one I could pee and vape on this podcast I got to go pee go pee I could pee yeah I mean I think we I think we end the episode because uh let's wrap it up you can get W available at Walmart anyway if you walk into Walmart whether you with your mom your daddy you by yourself you go in that [ __ ] men body care aisle you buy that and comment down below what you thought of the episode for um us being brain fried over and uh jper but Buzz also comment cuz this coming out when the product releases comment your favorite scent and sent $10,000 right no I'm send you 1,000 I ain't got 10,000 for you but I'll send you 1,000 I'll send someone 10,000 he'll send you 10,000 I'll send you a th000 and I'm going through the comments for sure anyway good luck Charlie and if you got a test soon good luck on that [ __ ] that's what we [Music] do what are those 8 O gloves I want you to know they were talking up there he ain't going easy so be ready all right legit be ready buddy I'm using these bags don't show Too Much don't show we're boxing we're boxing I don't I do that on accident sometimes just know that that might come up just keep your hands up I'm just saying I might throw that up I haven't knocked someone out in a while just cuz my last fight didn't go off it went off five rounds I've been like craving just putting someone's lights out lately it's weird versus your boy better Derek I I hope Sean isn't nice and just [ __ ] him up that's your that's your trainee [ __ ] D all righty folks welcome to your main event of the evening starting out first in the loser corner you have better day with a record of no wins no losses I beat ste's [ __ ] out no anything he is 5'7 120 lbs lost in the mile to better JoJo but he's still delusional in his fighting career and to my left in the winning Corner sponsored by W sugar sha Ali The Undefeated UFC champion of the world it's time to fight bring it to the center we already spoke about the rules in the locker room beforehand give me your glove give me your hand touch gloves I want a clean fair fight no no hits below the waist back to your Corners time you ready judge you ready and fight [Music] [Applause] I'm out of balance or something oh do Dodge that [ __ ] hold on hold on hold on hold [ __ ] come on come on just oh my God one back of the head no no no back of the head four ref didn't see it five six me in the eyes Walk This Way Walk This Way for me he's running Walk This Way for me my car run all right and we're in in that right that's called all right time time time one two that was a that was a slip four up six bro Rizo what the [ __ ] are you doing all right get up SLP all right come on time in come on got come on got you [ __ ] black I'm going to I need to work I need to see some work black UT D somebody said 10 seconds like 8 seconds ago all right great back to your corner back to your corner back to your corner stay in there you're doing good right now this feel good I feel good do you see that one I landed clean on his face I think we all terrible shut the [ __ ] up for once in your [ __ ] life shut the [ __ ] up Sean's doing half punches on him shut up I'll act like uh no don't act like bro I'm just I'm putting in work all right how this how you when you [ __ ] beat the old wash UFC fighters everybody comments you're fighting old was UFC fighters what do you think 10s I think they're right in in round two round two round two oh got him [ __ ] oh [Music] [ __ ] hey put that hey that that's a that's going to be a 10 count can't get me by the that's going to be a 10 count that's going to be a 10 count next time back in the just there going to be a 10 count next time get in there give me real quick get him with some you thank you perfect okay BL I'm going to need to see some more one two back to your corner white Corner neutral Corner 5 6 seven eight n look at me thank you bro come on you want to fight do you want to fight when I do you want to fight yes yeah wait wait time back in wake up time time time time time I promise okay it's to the floor the rules of transfer to MMA tap tap tap he's St he's T he's ta all right I block out all right you're good to go wait wait the fight was over get the [ __ ] out of the ring oh it's over it's over it's over it's over go you got it's over it's over it's over [Music]	debut who are you Bo give an easy fight give me Deon Haney you give [Laughter] me honest answer uh I mean if we're I I would say Floyd if I Pi if I could sit here and pick who I box first boxing fight I pick Floyd because it would be the biggest most crazy most legendary fight maybe not most legendary some people for me okay but outside of that on a skill based level oh I I could hang with some good [ __ ] pro boxers I'm undefeated in boxing you think you think if you and uh ilot boxed that' be ilot is very very [ __ ] skilled boxing that's an interesting question so who what what professional boxer would you equate your PA Mike Tyson I know of Devon Haney now because Ryan Garcia beat him uh dvon Davis he's really short I know him um maybe smacking [ __ ] up though he does he that little guy he can't he can't ride roll coasters though that is true so there's a there's a tradeoff like Cruz fight he was riding a roller coaster no like I'm talking about like at the fair oh no you know like there there's a trade-off in life you know where things get weird it's like it's like yo he's really good but you can't even just hit Dante fan brother can't even ride the top not a Dante fan that's not what I'm wait what	8	6	4	debut who are you Bo give 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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXPZ1KzdpsY	4,103	mXPZ1KzdpsY	2024-06-20 00:00:00	well well well ladies and gentlemen do we have a special episode for you today none other than sugar Shan om Ali the current UFC bantamweight champion a legend in his own right this episode was off the cusp we were a little turned up Jasper was really really drunk so we weren't really prepared for this at all the conversations definitely got wild and obviously as you guys have seen over maybe the past week or so we launched a new company called w am men's carine in Walmart this company is so near and dear to my heart and I partnered with Shawn to bring this Vision to life amongst other celebrities artists and athletes that we are announcing over the next couple of weeks here get your w at Walmart it is very very very very very good stuff and yes you heard the news I am fighting Mike Perry on July 20th it is going down I'm still fighting Mike Tyson November 15th that is happening but I'm staying active knocking out Mike Perry on July 20th and I'm excited for y'all to listen to this episode and he the vision of w how it all came together and how Shawn got involved and then everything to do with Shawn's career this podcast has been a long time coming but prepare yourself for some idiocracy per usual uh this is [ __ ] with Jake Paul we have a secret handshake check it out AC let me get that stop playing mean yeah we created that because we actually have so many things to get into here this has been a long time coming Jasper did bring up something and the reason W was created was because the other products in the category had harmful dyes parabens sulfates hormone disruptors and so we wanted to create the better for you vitamin infused product and and Sean's a co-owner just signed today yesterday for the show but we we'll get into all of that we we've been you know bringing sea on for like we've been talking for like a month and a half yes sir yes sir um it is currently May we've been doing a lot of shoots this podcast will probably come out at post W launch you can get I'm so drunk I'm sorry y'all you can get it in uh Walmart every Walmart you in Paca Walmart get it in you in Pensacola it's in Walmart in Kentucky Walmart Walmart so basically uh we we brought in the greatest people in the world to help build W and Sean is one of those people but dialing everything back we will get into the company the body washes how this all came about but uh we've been wanting to do this podcast and thanks for joining us BR hey guys hey thanks for joining us right did you uh yeah I did you sh for an hour bro did you did you do do we know do we set the stage of the day and the fact that Jasper's slash right now okay cool y drunk is a [ __ ] y like double drunk yep yep yep you drunk yeah all that so um but just winding everything back uh I think we've been friends for a long time in fact you were the first guest on this show oh [ __ ] crazy Zoom crazy that's right that's right that's right the first ever episode you zoomed in and that's crazy we're thankful we're thankful for our friendship and it's pretty cool that now we're here again today uh getting less views than before and that's fire that's it congratulations less views we're not we're not it was it was a joke it was a joke if you watching this please like and comment cuz we falling off right now but man by the time this comes out you're going to be getting ready for me RAB how do you say his name I don't remember morab is iTab or or I don't know me that's got to be it me but you got to say it with the emphasis look meab mirab meab meab there you go there you go so yeah I should be getting ready hopefully I ain't got nothing scheduled hopefully uh you know Uncle Dana will call me say hey buddy you want to fight in in here and there and there and then I'm d b boom and that that's how that works what's up with everybody on your body though everybody talking [ __ ] even people youat I wanted to bring up yeah and he's like saying like he's trying to post about you even yesterday it is weird but when you concuss someone you know what I just say they don't think as well as they used to so I think he's still concussed and he's a little confused because he's talking [ __ ] still he not in his right mind because I can just throw up another post go because it's a throwback Thursday it's a throwback Friday do you think do you think people don't respect you enough cuz I I see that as your friend an unbiased like they just see social media and podcasts and the the hair and stuff like that and then they just sh week but I [ __ ] with you I appr that um I don't think it is well you can't you know I think it's fine I think you're jealous I ain't going to lie I got some inches under here let's smell that hair you can smell my [ __ ] must who I do think I feel a little bit disrespected as the champ but I think that last fight against Che kind of you know shut a little bit of people up canny go five rounds Cheeto beat me before the Alo fight um shut a lot of people up canny grapple didn't have to Grapple cuz he couldn't take me down yeah Alo couldn't take you down I think that was the biggest thing where they were like yo that's his weakness like yeah wrestle him down and then he just proved everyone wrong that's what's so interesting about this morab fight is he's supposedly well he is he's [ __ ] good at wrestling he's really really good at wrestling he's boring as [ __ ] and no one will there won't be one comment saying yeah right he's actually kind of fun not one person I'm com won I'm com you can I ask you something would you put yourself in your own top five Strikers in the UFC oh I'm yeah yo easily who's your Mount Rushmore strikker well I I mean I would unbiasedly I would put him as number one because adna is in like top three but he also like got beat by put that [ __ ] down boy he did uh bro I'm up there I'm up there Max is really good Max super his striking that's a good top five there that's four me Max Elia adaga uh I'm sure I'm missing some your with a one would it be that's that's a minus one Mount rmore is four yeah but I only got four but if you throw the five in it's a plus one isn't there only four yeah but but you ready to throw the five up I'm four all right that's my more but yeah once again uh this is a [ __ ] ass podcast so we apologize hey but something something you just touched on you talked about Fighters being fun and interesting how much and you're you're a superstar how much of you being a superstar how much of any fighter being a superstar comes down to them being fun and interesting as you are and how much of it comes down to their actual fighting good question uh well who's a super who who obviously Connor comes to mind I think he's he's a character he's fun he's interesting who else comes to mind is like a superstar I would say Izzy gives that off I think he's an interesting guy other than that there's not like a ton of fun like Ryan Garcia is doing a really good job right now of being [ __ ] interesting being a character uh I think that's fentel I think it's drugs as well I wouldn't deny that but he's still making people interested in Ryan versus Devon Haney was an interesting fight not because Devon Haney that dude's boring as [ __ ] you think he did them roids no I don't think Ryan did I think Devon needs to take that L he being a [ __ ] about I think the craziest [ __ ] you said to me and like I don't even know if we want to put this in there or bring it up but we we can always remove it but uh because of your your situation with the ostarine and you said to me like and it I like fully felt your energy you're like I swear on my daughter's life I never did that and you got popped for it yeah same thing happened uh to Ryan right now he popped for aost the low super low level a some [ __ ] like a trillionth of a gr the same thing happened to me uh so when that came out with Ryan like I truly truly didn't believe he took anything because it was the same [ __ ] and it happens to a lot of [ __ ] ostarine happens to how does that happen it's called the tainted supplement so if you're taking anything that has protein in it that's not third party tested uh could not just protein any kind of supplement that's not third party tested it's either NSF or there's a bunch of different third party tests but if you're not if you're taking something that doesn't have that there's chances there could be something in it but austram people pop for that all the time my case was not that big of a deal cuz I wasn't as huge of a star as I am now but it still was like a big deal because of my name the reason it's going so crazy right now is because Ryan G is a superstar so people are freaking out but it happens to a lot of athletes I just before we move past it I just on that Superstar topic how is that is that Superstar factor that that someone like you has someone like Ryan has someone like Connor has is it something you're born with or is it is it a practice is it something you can learn and do you sit back and like think like oh how can I go viral today how can I I think it's both I think you have to want to be a superstar there's some guys in the UFC like I want to make more money I want this I want that but they don't really want to be a superstar you you got to want it you got to you got to have some kind of vision a long time before well and and also like who you are as a person you have to have that like Fire Within still though like before you got into want famous I want to be in the NFL I want to be NBA I wanted to be a [ __ ] athlete when I was young was instilled I was just for whatever reason I wanted to make it when I was young I'm from H in Montana like small ass can I ask you something what's your opinion on like the take b nickel takes like where he's like super friendly and humble and like I think he's a sweet ass [ __ ] they love him but like bro that [ __ ] pisses me off I think that [ __ ] is cool too n like you're a hum like [ __ ] talk your [ __ ] you're what 670 like bro talk your [ __ ] like it it kind of bores me no I get yeah I mean that's that's some people's opinion is like he's too nice too humble too that but he's being himself um but he's also super young in the sport I think he and he's still pretty what is he 28 you're in a sport of War if I was playing like [ __ ] Cricket I would be like yeah like but that's that's the thing is for for for a character like him what it seems like is that's what he's in is the sport of war and that's it he's not in the sport of entertainment he's a nice ass sweetheart get there is some people that that understand both sides of things but I also have respect for and I see when someone's that's strictly in the sport of if I play chess with you I'm going to be like good game and I'm going to shake your hand I talk [ __ ] be F ass to a PO it I'm going to be like [ __ ] you you need to get better at whatever you're doing dial dialing it back a little bit um to the aost stream thing I think it's like what do you think about Conor tweeting still at like 3:00 a.m. like coked out he he he he sent shots at me and Ryan talking [ __ ] but it's it's crazy coming from Connor who literally got out of the usada pool to do steroid like legit steroids so it's kind of wild and I was the biggest Connor fan for a long time in the last couple weeks ever since he sent that wasn't even a couple weeks ago probably a week ago I've been trying to hate him I've been trying to be like [ __ ] you Connor but I can't I love Connor I it's like I am excited for his fight coming up I'm excited I want you know I'm all about it what's the fight is it Chandler Chandler in June it's going to be big they just been trying to do it for a long time so I didn't know if it still still I think officially I think it's I think I think the craziest part about it is what like eight weeks before a fight that he's still like coked and drunk out of his mind who you got though who that's a good it is crazy that he still like he tweeted that deleted like 20 minutes later he was definitely [ __ ] up on well that's what I was going to say we can't just Grace past that do you is that that's a that's a bold thing to say do you you know he's on coke is that a is that are you [ __ ] gills I don't know anything but I know for certain that he's brother like look at the time of the tweets and look at what he's saying like also and he's like known for this simar tweets yeah yeah I don't know just manic brother I think he is I do think Ryan is I think he when he said he was playing into it a little bit I I think he's kind of using that I think he's [ __ ] crazy what what what would happen if you and Ryan boxed that's I mean there's only one way to find out he has a lot better chances of beating me in a boxing match than he does in a real fight keep up I do I I [ __ ] I truly believe in myself that's how I got to the [ __ ] position I'm in right now I can box I can throw hands um I don't think it'd be easy by any means I do think it's possible I beat him I'm not saying my my odds are great but I do believe I could beat Ryan Bo if there was anybody you could box for your first boxing match debut who are you Bo give an easy fight give me Deon Haney you give [Laughter] me honest answer uh I mean if we're I I would say Floyd if I Pi if I could sit here and pick who I box first boxing fight I pick Floyd because it would be the biggest most crazy most legendary fight maybe not most legendary some people for me okay but outside of that on a skill based level oh I I could hang with some good [ __ ] pro boxers I'm undefeated in boxing you think you think if you and uh ilot boxed that' be ilot is very very [ __ ] skilled boxing that's an interesting question so who what what professional boxer would you equate your PA Mike Tyson I know of Devon Haney now because Ryan Garcia beat him uh dvon Davis he's really short I know him um maybe smacking [ __ ] up though he does he that little guy he can't he can't ride roll coasters though that is true so there's a there's a tradeoff like Cruz fight he was riding a roller coaster no like I'm talking about like at the fair oh no you know like there there's a trade-off in life you know where things get weird it's like it's like yo he's really good but you can't even just hit Dante fan brother can't even ride the top not a Dante fan that's not what I'm wait what did what did I say to say I'm not a you didn't say I mean I don't think he knows that it's a short joke I don't think he picked up on you want me tell him I was joking shut the [ __ ] up I get I say that was a joke I'm what are you trying to say I'm but are you trying to insinuate that I'm short no honestly you're probably what five you're 5'9 you're like 5' seven and a half stop doing stop doing it stop doing that cuz [ __ ] is going to see this and be like he's 5'6 actually if you watching this and you think I'm 5'6 and you want to try me in person please any [ __ ] who see me out I'm punching your [ __ ] out I'm like 5'9 on a good day when when I'm lying to women I'm 5'10 for sure who's gonna ID me I'm wearing forces I'm a [ __ ] liar all right so now for the truth jakee he's like what like he's 5 No but don't do that bro all right all right we won't we'll cut that out like yeah n don't cut it out n don't see me and see these but you know dvon is 5'5 legit that's cool bro I know but is that not short just be honest is that five five short for a grown man for a grown man is that short you can be a fan I'm not I'm a fan of javante and he's five that's a little little bro all right the joke went over his head anyways so the short joke [ __ ] is trying to play me like I'm short no no no we're we're not we're not you're [ __ ] tall all right let's pivot yeah so um SI yeah sh shout out to the shout out to the pivot but but yeah like Jasper's a little riled up things are on edge he's a little he's a little turned up it's been a long day a long two days we've been shooting uh because we have a new [ __ ] company did we say we talk about that yet I we said in the beginning raise your arms up [ __ ] goed [ __ ] goed shout out to w a fun few days it's been a fun few days days you're going to see the content rolling out um but you speaking of but Ruby Rose did a good job oh my God I wanted to bite that M listen anyway if you're near wmart if you're watching this right now I don't give a [ __ ] what you're doing you could be taking care of your kid you could be taking care of your elderly parents [ __ ] them go to Walmart June 1st Nationwide I don't care if you in Pensacola you in Massachusetts all in places that sound [ __ ] stupid there's a Walmart there and you go there it's a better for you product vitamin ifuse number [ __ ] one yeah no basically I I think dialing back like the business story of it because you're also like a very smart businessman intellectual doing everything you do in and outside of the Ring which a lot of people don't have which contributes to you being uh the biggest in my opinion the biggest UFC star um but yeah we we basically I guess this is the podcast where we tell people where W came from but um we started building this company like a year and a half ago and really saw how all these other companies like as we move into better for you products and less harmful products we saw how the leaders in the space didn't have the best formulas didn't have the best manufacturing had all of these harmful substances in it and we're also brands from when I was like 9 years old I don't want to list names but they're still like having all the Shelf space in stores and I was just like this is wild like this is boring this is lame the the the we need something new we need something that's better uh males have vitamin uh deficiencies like crazy especially with magnesium Jasper just can't get enough of it uh especially with magnesium um and biotin is in the body wash uh vitamin E one two of the best vitamins for your skin and hair um but as The Story Goes long story short we we come up with this brand that represents so many things um but I think winning in everyday life whether you're the valedictorian whether you are the high school jock whether you're philanthropist now you have a product that you can embody and wear every single day that's increasing your vitamin intake that is less harmful to you that's where the idea came from and just being the winning formula in category uh went to Walmart pitched them the whole idea they [ __ ] loved it helped us build the brand even and come up with the scent profiles and all the things that are the the most popular um and this has been something I've wanted to do for so long we had to bring in the best people to be a part of it the winners in their category and that's number one Numero Uno sha Ali here um and he instantly saw the vision and already in the past couple of days it's been like super fun filming all the content behind yeah I was pumped when you [ __ ] called me appreciate you thinking of me and uh excited to help grow this business [ __ ] it's needed it's needed we're going to take over the whole bathroom you know tooed if you [ __ ] with the dogs and cows and chickens dog in you I know what I got that dog in me and I use it so be dog free baby am I missing anything with that no I think that was great the one the one thing I would touch on and you did in a way but it's it is body wash it is body spray it is deodorant but it also is there's an ethos that stands behind this brand which is the ethos that you stand for and it's the ethos that you stand for and the ethos that you stand for and the one that I stand for if I say ethos again I'm GNA start stumbling over my words but it's it's it's like you said it it doesn't the winners in life aren't just you you're on a big stage in life you're you're you're crushing it in every aspect financially you're a star you're leading your sport that's awesome on every [ __ ] level it's it's an encouragement to to young men all around the world to [ __ ] get up off their ass and get sh it don't matter if you score high on a test you whatever the [ __ ] it is that you do well maybe not so it matters what the [ __ ] you do but it also doesn't matter what the [ __ ] you do anybody is a winner as long as you put in the work and you have the will to win and I love it I I would say that's wrong I would say that not anybody is a winner and I think that's something that the brand also stands for like you really got to win you got to as you have the will to win no I'm just saying I think that's an important point cuz we live in a world today where a lot of people think everybody can be a winner that's not true if you Los you might be a loser and if you're a loser the good news is there's a hidden l in the logo actually we'll trace it for you with our graphic design team there's a hidden l in the logo because and I I I wanted to make sure that was was a thing because the biggest loss of my life turned out to be the biggest W in my life and I always had the saying like two L's make a w and when I lost to Tommy Fury it was embarrassing all these things but I realized I wasn't focused I wasn't as locked in as I could be the team around me from a boxing standpoint wasn't good I was having personal issues with relationships and all of these things that I had to shed and grow from and I grew into this new and completely different person but I wouldn't have done that if I didn't lose on the biggest stage possible and I think that was part of the ethos ethos ethos ethos of the brand was to encourage people that in their lowest moments to turn those into into their biggest W's eventually when Jake just said that the biggest loss of his life ended up being the biggest W of his life you said same yeah yeah same what what was that story for supposedly lost for lost to Cheeto back in 2020 August it it was I mean it sucked at the time but I it didn't suck too bad because I was like okay I didn't lose because I you know and it was different I wasn't I mean I was focused everything went good training camp everything was good but I was like that sucks I'm goingon to get that back someday when the time is right and then my last fight two two months ago in Miami headline I'm the champ defending my belt against that same guy how rewarding was that three and a half years later August three and a half years later boom beat his ass as a fan of yours it made it so sweet because of all the doubters that constantly like put you down and didn't believe in you and said he was going to destroy you and then you he literally like you embarrass him that was a performance of a life you embarrassed the [ __ ] out of him and I think that's literally a prime example of turning l l into into a w and I really that's what that's where the hidden l in the brand in the logo is um and representing that every single day when you see these products in your bathroom and when we say we have a saying it's not just a product it's a lifestyle absolutely trademarked Incorporated All Rights Reserved 2024 brother uh but but yeah man it's it's an honor to have you a part of this and uh we we really made what we think are the best products on the market from the body wash being exfoliating vitamin infused to the body spray what we found out is a lot of these fragrances like you get like these high-end designer brands that have like $500 colognes turns out it only cost them a dollar to make that and they're literally making like $499 on top of that so we had a fine fragrance house is what these places are called and we got the super expensive scents and gave it to people to what they're worth like we're not trying to these products are super super affordable and I think it's so funny because that's the world we live in where like you just label something and get like a European girl to go this is one of the lower priced men's care products on the market yeah if I'm not mistaken and it's it's the $500 fragrance in the affordable bottle because we want everyone we've been using a body wash in the past two days since we got the samples after the shoot and I personally want to say I got the in there you could bleep it out whatever you want to do W's winning n b genuinely that's that's the saying is the it's winning formula cuz it really is like it really is if if we're going to call our company [ __ ] W it has to be the best we the winners winning product indeed indeed winning customers all that type of [ __ ] indeed better Derek today he's just got a punch I'm not Li I talked to him before he left he wants to punch you up bro he's got a punchable face I like him though it's weird it's like God I like that guy but I want [ __ ] KO pick him up and like it's okay boom one more to the liing me earlier and I'm just letting you know don't shoot the messenger on God he said he wants to get in the ring with you I can call him really he oh yeah he he you want to call him yeah where is he at is wait uh no call no call he's coming up oh um he's talking smack he said he actually wants a spar I swear to God he said he wants to get percentage should I go you guys I literally out let that's crazy timeing saying talk [ __ ] to my face if you're going to talk [ __ ] that's crazy timing what were you saying they were telling me you want to get in the ring and Spar bit or they didn't say Spar they said fight yeah I'm down to do either but uh yeah no I'm just sick of the [ __ ] [ __ ] you've been saying on your podcast uh you called me you made fun of my weight and you called me gay I did not no I well okay okay you said that he wouldn't ever say that what you got to say what your chest that's what I just [ __ ] said bro I he was like oh if I if stand on it you talking to him you talking to him you ain't talking to me my assistant Sono would would piece you he's never boxed a day he never I'm here to fight your video I'm here to fight you what did I what was the first thing I said to you when when I saw you what was the first thing I said to you that we could fight no I said you look thick wait but when we were talking earlier weren't you saying he's a [ __ ] and you wanted to get a ring with him and all type [ __ ] what I'm saying right now say it then I just said the [ __ ] ring so we can after this we have a ring 2 feet away and he's a [ __ ] and whatever else you was saying to me yeah he's [ __ ] what about my hair say something about my hair I I already said that at the W shoot that you look like you haven't showered in [ __ ] a week okay all right d hey buddy hey hey what's your long-term play not no but see you guys you guys are making me seem crazy you're out of your mind he Derek Dereck go warm up hit the hit the heavy back H the warm up is almost listen legendary as send location dble PIV go warm up hey hey double pivot sit sit I'm not [ __ ] no I I'll sit and talk but I'm not [ __ ] no sit on the floor walk you want to take my seat hey how much how much of what's going on ch ch how much of what's going on is is a character versus like actual delusion how much is a character yeah decent uh I would say there are times where I know what I have to do for my boxing career to like like we all why is he laughing cuz you said career I beat your [ __ ] boy your [ __ ] [ __ ] bro you know what I I recall you did beat I recall calling steiny saying what the [ __ ] was that buddy I love steiny but I do remember watching that and thinking I wasn't proud of that I was not proud of that from steiny and I wish I wish he would come to the gym I wish he'd get in there I wish he'd train a little bit and I wish he would have a rematch but that's on him I've been trying to get the rematch but he's been ding me do you think Derek won he said I won I thought I thought he won I'd have to rewatch but I do think I come on baby the comments have [ __ ] dragged me for months after that [ __ ] 99% of the comments say I lost so please say it one more time Sean no I said it what I said it's like therapy or something no but to answer your question uh we all know uh uh as Fighters there's a side of promotion stop [ __ ] first of all Gus shut the [ __ ] up our our audio guys uh like can't stop laughing is that the facial his facial hair or is what he's saying bro that's bold of you to talk facial hair bro that's bold of you to I'm not Li you look dirty you look like Jeffrey done training right Jesus I train every day but anyway we know like there's two sides of of promotion as well as the actual athletic competition that is Combat Sports so there are times where I might play up a little bit like hey promoting but let him go let him go all right if you if all if you think I'm all promoting that I'll see you in the [ __ ] ring and I'll knock both you either of you out well um well Jake's a [ __ ] fat [ __ ] right now he weighs like 240 so I got I goty I gotta pick my words wisely like he's Jake's 240 I I know I know but like I'm not going to sit here and pick a fight against somebody that's 240 when I'm se's my weight class when I stopped you in one round like just like but when I was getting started out of come this is where I'm at since then I told him he could have somebody tag team I'm down I'm down to fight anybody in this [ __ ] room not one person in this room I'm the best part about this is like uh right after this we I think you're you're down to do like one round or three minutes right I mean I'd prefer 12 but we okay yeah 12 I mean that my biggest advantage in the ring ring is my cardio I do 12 12 okay so no I have a genuine question so five round I'm not I'm not one have I ever said I'm a UFC fighter no I'm just say we can box I'm just saying that's I'm used to five you want to do three we could do that aren't you trying to be a boxer with your [ __ ] Ryan Garcia call he would knock knock your [ __ ] ass out so quickly it wouldn't be close I'm one and0 pro boxing what are you actually I saw that video I saw video I'm also want to know thank you officially hey they count that's real commiss but uh I didn't mean I didn't mean to take I didn't mean to take over the pot I just wanted to a couple you definitely didn't yeah okay I try I'm trying to help you no we love you go warm up yeah yeah go warm up the bags don't warm up too much though don't get tired how much do you wa right now without Timberlands and jean shorts on high 120 low 13 no without lying though okay that [ __ ] is you think you got you got him one round I think I could beat him I think I can beat him I I think I could handicap myself to three just put on one glove I could do that what do you think actually happens now when you go downstairs and he gets in that ring like what's his plan that's what I don't get about him but that's why it's that's do me a favor that's why he's Cloud it up because love [ __ ] up [ __ ] he's going he's going to try to Yap he's going to try to talk please just go 100% yeah no actually actually please go 100% if he signs a consent form we'll have him no we've already got like multiple consent forms for better media with like death wavers [ __ ] no no no but he needs it he needs that I'll go like 40 no go like 75 Sean I'm I'm going to be honest bro don't even go 20% he's the nice [ __ ] bro don't do that bro you want him to go 100% no no to be honest but just like work with him and then just like maybe just just like a really good punching and then he'll give up 75% uh I'm nervous man I'm shaking for Derek yeah yeah that's good I understand that there a couple flinches if you Flinch hard enough the the wind coming off you will put him down let him walk you down and bait him boom sleeping what's your next upcoming fight a maraba jaaba and when is that uh not nothing yet I'm hoping for September maybe October maybe November maybe December I'm F ready to go baby what if it was next month I wouldn't be ready to go I like I like 10 to 12 weeks 10 to 12 he likes eight I mean I I normally do like 10 yeah just like but I've been super the first few weeks are [ __ ] pre-amps this Camp I'm channeling my Ryan Garcia would you ever do a Ryan Garcia regiment during Camp drink and smoke every night you do a little I I probably yeah I'm not actually doing that for the people out there he's locked in clocked in locked in locked in ready to go yeah May 20th we start but by the time the people see this it'll be uh June or something like that that is crazy you're fighting Mike that you fought Ben asran wrestler good good [ __ ] UFC was really good UF bit Tyron Woodley twice Anderson Silva knockout of the year with Nate Robinson can't forget about deji deji the the the goat do we say Gibb or is that like that's just crazy resume like literally [ __ ] C by way thank you Gib cuz we had a really good party after he knocked you the [ __ ] out who W we're skipping two professional boxers this always no no the recent ones this always happens I'm trying to just think cuz two cuz this is what everybody asked for this is what everybody asked for who who are the two professional boxers you fighted you got to name them Andre August and Ryan Borland go okay people don't people are like fight a pro boxer and then I do and then they're like that was boring as a man of combat he what were 10 and one nine and one nine and one what is your take on his [ __ ] all of his fights and who he's fighting in the competition dude I've been excited as [ __ ] since I started I remember you I remember the first time I watched was the Nate Robinson I watched that one at home and then uh I don't remember what it was after that but I remember watching Ben Asam in Atlanta I think that was the first time we actually met was right after the fight I think we hugged I was like y I picked you up you carried me back to the locker room that it was love at first sight that was crazy actually yeah actually I [ __ ] with him we became best friends like a couple days later you going to leave me hanging no no I would it's my eyebrow but uh yeah no I think he's obviously super skilled I think it's and I I it's inspired me even in the position I'm at UFC World Champ sexy you know what I mean like tall dark handsome TR inspired me just business the business uh side of things that you've done I've always thought putting on massive fight that's why I'm such a huge Conor fan cuz the pay-per-views he's done is so [ __ ] he's been fighting for four years and [ __ ] that he's been doing the massive fights the fights I get excited for there's a few UFC fights the high the big big fights that I get excited for but every time you fought even when uh Logan fought Floyd I was [ __ ] like excited like all fight week so i' I've been inspired from what you've done from a business side from the boxing side they even just start so not late but for a boxer but these boxers start when they're [ __ ] three four years old like Ryan and tank like they're young buck the Tik Tac I sent you of Devon Haney's debut fight yeah it's wild he was fighting a five foot Mexican in a in a bar was it Dante bro if I show you this [ __ ] oh no I did see that I did see that I did see that when you started even seeing that first video fighting Anderson Silva six fights in bro like do you know how insane that is he's one of the greatest correct me if I'm wrong UFC Strikers in history yeah 100% so does that make me one of the greatest UFC Strikers and one of the greatest wrestlers cuz wood but Ben ask was but Nate Diaz is ducking me in MMA oh am crazy I am weak that's a sick fight MMA I I wish it was that would happened right after the boxing same he's actually ducking it which is why it's crazy because he's not he's not in UFC no but we we upped it to 15 million damn that's crazy though that would be a I like Nate Diaz but that would be such a fun buildup he actually doesn't want to do it all Sean how do you genuinely Jake's not here it's me and you in a room actually how do you see that fight going for Jake what MMA him you're not here J for Nate in MMA keep it a bean God it's it's so hard to you're a big [ __ ] right now on what weight would it be5 185 I don't hate I don't I it's not a it's a winable fight for you I really do think that but Nate is so [ __ ] you would have to do what I did against aljo and morab do not let that [ __ ] grab you not that you can't wrestle cuz I know you can wrestle but once he starts grabbing you and doing Jiu-Jitsu if he gets on top his little he likes his little trips it would be hard for you to win I feel like if he if he started grappling just pure Jiu-Jitsu if it let's be real if it goes to the floor is he [ __ ] if he's on his back Nate's not like a super strong guy so if you learn how to like I mean I'm sure you know how to get up to a single legegg stuff like that but then you start getting your neck grabbed I don't know how much Jiu-Jitsu you know I mean Nate's a [ __ ] high Lev black belt um if you could keep it standing 100% there's winnable ways there if he if he went to the ground feel like he might be able to grab your neck no that that's exactly how I feel about it if I don't get guillotined yeah then I win the fight because even if he was on top take your back but even if he was on top of me I would just throw him off of me cuz he's also the weakest puncher I've ever fought like when he was hitting me I was I almost like started laughing I'm I'm not even saying this to talk [ __ ] out of everyone I've sparred in my whole entire life and everyone I fought his punches are even me we I don't think you ever landed a punch on me is that true well that's not true so I don't anyone no I'm literally not even talking [ __ ] which is why I think it's funny that he dropped Connor and [ __ ] cuz it's just like how Conor with like to the ground yeah like with a straight left hand yeah which is crazy like I I'm not just talking [ __ ] when I say that and I've told you I've literally told you this you told me this after the fight yeah I was like he is the weakest puncher I've ever fought in my life who's who's the weakest puncher you've ever you've ever come to face um there I mean there's been so many fights where I later didn't even get hit um uh does that like make you jaded at all when you get into a fight and you don't really get love that [ __ ] I prefer not to get hit at all but like if I was you and I wasn't get hit at all I'd probably work less no no no no I I know I don't get hit because I work that hard so if I didn't work hard I know I'd probably get hit I'm just a lazy [ __ ] so so here you are on top of the world we're launching [ __ ] W going to be a billion dollar business [ __ ] you I always forget uh UFC champ accomplishing all your goals what do you want next uh what are what is the threeyear fiveyear for Sean I I truly do want to get a boxing fight I'm not I'm not super set on that to where like I'm like going to be [ __ ] if it doesn't happen I do think it'll be interesting especially if I go out there knock morab out Ryan does his thing I think there's a [ __ ] sweet fight there if it doesn't happen not that worried about it want to go out there beat morab I'd like to you know if Max Max and Elia fight I would like to fight go move up to 45 fight the winner of that um you know maybe have three to five maybe have a few more kids definitely want another little baby I love kids my fite pump him out shout out to Danny who's your top pick in a boxing fight though if you if you could choose your Ryan now was like the I mean what he after dvon Beat Ryan I was like javante then Ryan goes out there does his thing really though I think Dante do you is that is that not a big [ __ ] leap Ryan like you said before he's been doing this his whole life one thing that's been proven is that the crossover it's it's not a good return Fury he did his thing okay the excep is the exception we've seen it with okay but then Anthony Joshua put his ass t was crazy super night night he was I'm I'm here for big fights like I wanted to get into the UFC and I wanted to make big fights watching Conor versus Floyd I'm like that [ __ ] happened really happened hey you versus Derek that could be as big as Connor in Floyd but no but I I think the craziest [ __ ] about Conor versus Floyd is that overall it was a W for everyone involved so there's certain fights where it just like doesn't matter what happens that's the world we live in yeah I mean UFC told me they said if the if the fight's big enough and it'll make the UFC money they'll do it what means more to you your your your record being pre or the amount of money you're making all right let me ask you something it's about to get real J's drunk Jasper's drunk as [ __ ] y record or money [ __ ] it depends the Gap like like the gap of money if it's like an extra 10 15 20 million but I lose a couple important fights probably not you just take like 150 million I'll be like like [ __ ] my record baby yeah it depends on the gap of money Jake Paul is not here right now just like a Mayweather Conor McGregor you taking that fight ver Jake yeah no he's my buddy I could I mean I don't I don't even no I no funny no there's you know what's funny is always in my Snapchat story once once a day pretty much someone says we knock out Jake Paul like there's every sing all the time for so long people just want to see me get [ __ ] is good though that's like the thing yeah but I'm sensitive it is funny though people [ __ ] love to hate confidence the craziest thing though actually about both of you like I met you very recently like I didn't realize you're as like normal as you are I don't know why I thought you violent like you guys are both like very goofy mellow and stupid and c and and awesome it's like the greatest thing ever like I couldn't believe when I met you you're like one of us like yeah I wouldn't think you're a [ __ ] yeah one of the coolest people in the world for sure yeah but not a lot of people uh can like I don't know we have like a weird it's hard toes Meat Heads I'm like this the this my dog I think it's a little bit of dark humor too it's like some [ __ ] up [ __ ] that we say off camera [ __ ] sometimes but I think it's like there's a certain yeah like that's how my whole group is back home it's like we all just we're all just kind of [ __ ] dumb I'm smart but like they're dumb well someone commented like yo Jake Paul's the dumbest genius in the world and I was just like I say that [ __ ] all the time you wed up the other day and I was like this is the most genius dumbass in the world no jokes Hey Brother chill buddy trying to get me cancelled no what how old are you 23 are you really yeah no you're not he's not is he what do you think think what did you think Oh no you're 267 27 what did you think he was I thought he was older I thought he was like 27 26 yeah a niggaer mature was that ladies you got a boo you got a girl you just be slanging she timeout right now I don't really talk about she don't time out it's a little tricky she not taking care of herself what do you guys think about Tom Brady R you watch it yeah they kept comp panning to you every 5 Seconds bro I swear there's a huge camer sitting there the whole time but it's cool to see Netflix going hard like that cuz they went hard they swing that meat around huha yeah let's pivot yeah just sorry about him I'm drunk man not yeah but but it was it was great it wasar they should have got rid of most of the football players going up there yeah there's a couple ones Ben afflac is that who that was on there that was wild that was so weird that was so weird it was cool to see how [ __ ] less sensitive people are becoming I feel like feel like it's recently like there's a big push back I think people got sick of it we went super super super PC for a long time people were like wait a second we like being able to say what we want to say I saw kill Tony say oh type of crazy [ __ ] on there that watch every [ __ ] Monday you were on kill Tony yeah how old are you actually buddy I'm a comedian Budd full time no yeah I was on that I was nervous as hell though I was like just being it's a live I do podcast once a week like me and Tim do our podcast every [ __ ] week but to be there in front of an audience live it's weird it's a different kind of well so you say Tim but let's let's talk about actually the fact that you get trained by by one of the greatest boxers of all time it's really that's something what's happened like that's crazy working with Canelo as your as your coach that's what I'm saying people don't going to be Ryan but like yeah that is true I never even thought about that for did you even know that this guy proba even know that that orange [ __ ] is nice wait will I get cancelled by the ginger community no you're black oh no my dad my dad's Ginger and I'm I'm like this [ __ ] is ginger bro he be shaving he be shaving his beard and I zoom in zoom in it's it's slightly orange so I'm a quarter ginger on South Park they made fun of Gingers and that [ __ ] made the news I [ __ ] with the ginger people but like y'all [ __ ] you like redhead girls oh yeah was Super Soaker but anyway yeah like y'all [ __ ] is orange and that's okay but back to you one of y'all that's not drunk I got a question cuz this guy clipped out a lot did Tim actually like you guys about him like saying to fight that was yeah that was real Tim always be talking [ __ ] to the like he's been doing that for so long so what happened he just talk I mean he just he Alo the knee's coming Alo you got to shoot Alo watch out for this like he's been saying that since I've been in the UFC like my debut vers terion where he was talking [ __ ] to terion too and uh he just does it every fight but this happened to just be crazy timing to like Tim you got Tim like alre you got to go and like literally he he like that's when he threw that left hand or whatever stepped into Southpaw and uh or stepped into Orthodox and got dropped it was it was funny the timing because he's like Al you got to go I don't I truly don't think that's why that's not why Alo went I bet you could I bet Alo didn't even hear that but Tim's always chirping and stuff but people on the internet are [ __ ] mad about that a lot of them actually like it I'll say majority of people are thinking that's the funniest [ __ ] ever there's a couple [ __ ] that are like you should be banned think it's a fight would you run the alra fight back or one and done never I like that why would I yeah am I supposed to top that you know what I'm saying I got love for Alo we had him on the show and he he seems like a good dude I actually don't mind Alo I does that ever happen where like you'll have a personal relationship with someone personal runin with them and it's all great but then now all of a sudden you have to fight each other I've never had I've not of running with someone that's been like uh more than like I've ran into aljo morab at the UFC I'm like hey what's up talk to him a little bit you know nothing no ill will um but I haven't had like a run with someone I actually lik them mhm and then at the fight them so you're not friends with any any other UFC fighters oh I have a there's there's a couple guys in my in my weight class that I train with at the lab that are like climbing the r uh ladders what happened with uh the 125 pounder I I don't even know his name and I'm not I'm just not like yeah what's his name I Alexander pania bro this story is actually kind of funny so 2016 I think it was it was like 3 and0 4 and0 and I was still fighting at like I fought at 125 not too long before that I fought at like 130 which is in a weight class was like so I wasn't like a 155 like I am now I was probably like 14 back then and uh Henry cejudo comes in I'm three or four and0 at the point at this point it comes in with this kid Alexander PTO just won The Ultimate Fighter I think he's got his UFC debut or it's his second UFC fight he's a couple weeks out from his fight I'm [ __ ] the night before me and Tim ripping bongs like hanging out being goofballs and [ __ ] so the next morning so we brought him in for sparring hry sudo brings in Alexander you're 4-0 he's King [ __ ] he he's just won The Ultimate Fighter and so they write the names on on the board who who you're sparring I'm like oh [ __ ] I got Alexander Pantoja versus me for one round one round he has three rounds so you write one one name then usually you you spar with one guy then they go out you spar with a fresh guy they go out spar with the fresh guy that's usually how it works so my name was just up there for one round that's it we Spar one round I didn't know anything about him cuz I I didn't really watch it like that 25 I don't really watch 25ers like that but somebody's like oh [ __ ] that's he a black belt he just won The Ultimate Fighter I was like oh [ __ ] I got to [ __ ] Focus up here first round boom Dro him with a liver kick and I wasn't going to post I record all my rounds I have so many sparring rounds like I wasn't going to post it was and for some reason I don't know why he would talk [ __ ] and bring it up cuz I literally I don't know you know know I don't know if you know how it works but you finish a guy the fight's over right no no did he um so I finished him the first round he hit him boom with the liver I posted the video yesterday and I've had it for a long time I didn't want to post it CU you don't post sparring like that but he just kept bringing it up so boom finished him first round um then uh after the first round round I go to walk out and Henry's over there crying box of Kleenex just like [ __ ] wiping his tears crying we want you for a second round so mad that this little like I was nobody just finished his dude he's in the UFC he's supposed to be the man finish him in the first round so Henry's crying saying he wants another round um so I piece him up again in the second round and I'm I'm dying at this point my lungs are burning I'm not in shape for fight I I'm nowhere near in Camp for a fight and I my lungs are hurting and uh Henry again crying blowing his nose and like I want you for a third and Benson comes in Benson Henderson absolute Legend comes in and was yelling cuz that's his it was the his gym the MMA lab we don't let people come in our gym and make us tired and blah blah blah and I'm [ __ ] just just huffing and puffing I just got done work in this dude for 10 minutes finished him in the first round did I say that liver kick um we'll put the footage I have the foot yeah it's right there insert the footage so third round come out boom piece him up again and he's so I don't know why he keeps bringing up this bringing this up in the media I think it's because people ask him but I don't know why he doesn't just say yeah yeah no no I don't want to talk about it he keeps saying like he's like oh I got in I found his range and [ __ ] I'm like bro you you stopped him in one round stopped him in round one and let him live and continue to fight for round two these delusional uh like wild people are weirdos but the reason I posted cuz he kept bringing it up exactly wait so is he the champ now at 125 yeah okay but why does he still want to talk [ __ ] to you if you got [ __ ] up that's what I'm saying I don't know either either you drop to 125 and get that no I can't drop to 125 that's too much now you're a thick [ __ ] I am a thick but yeah I SP I think it's important for up and cominging Spar uh fighters to record their rounds and watch their rounds not for that this reason you know but just to I've improve so much watching my sparring y I have thousands of rounds maybe not thousands hundreds of rounds from 10 years ago on my on my computer of uh it's like NFL team is watching footage the time [ __ ] 100% got to watch that [ __ ] that's I I have every single round recorded and and again I I don't post sparring either exactly you know put in a highlight video make a vlog boom we're sparring people but it's never like [ __ ] up your guy yeah exactly but Mike Perry honestly like what he's been doing is pretty Fu he went to Bare knuckle that [ __ ] just meant for him bare knuckle fighting it's crazy different going crazy he's doing good he's [ __ ] undefeated over there he's beating some really good guys stay over here [ __ ] [ __ ] only place that you should be getting tickets from is game time.co it's it's the only place I go it is the only place you can possibly go they have 110% price match guarantee that's what we use to get our tickets for the NBA Finals you can get $20 off your first order go to gametime.co JJ a $20 off your first order they're doing a deal specifically for y'all and you could see where your tickets are before you buy them seeing the seats they have all of the these great policies last 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platform there is Mike Paul versus Jake Tyson here's my official prediction tell us and even if even if it's against me like it's not it's not I do think you're going to beat Mike Tyson uh it's crazy that I even saying that out loud right now cuz you're fighting Mike Tyson it's [ __ ] crazy even just when we were walking down the the street today people all genders all ages knew you were fighting Mike Tyson it's such a massive fights live on Netflix which is [ __ ] crazy it's in a stadium which is [ __ ] crazy it is crazy I believe in you I see what you I see what you're doing I see you know that you believe in yourself Mike Tyson is uh hasn't fought in however long it's been so for him to just come up and get a fight be I I'm sure is going to be in as good a shape as he possibly could be in but it's just you know it's it's it's it's not his time right now I love Mike Tyson I never actually met him but I love Mike Tyson I do think Jake's gonna get the job done and I do think eight rounds eight two-minute rounds eight two-minute rounds I believe I believe you could put them away in the later rounds you know five six seven eight I do think you could put it put him down which is crazy to even [ __ ] think you rap yeah that's fire I'm just lazy and inconsistent that's not a w no that sh it is not you start using Brandon yell at him every day but cuz you can actually spit that's fire no but but people know him now from like podcasting they don't know he's a rapper and hurts his soul J sick name Lil jizz what J JZ that's good that's good you should switch your [ __ ] I switch my [ __ ] from come Master to kill Jas bro honestly though that's I think singing rapping spitting is one of the things that if I could switch talents be doing something like that that's good or twerking I ain't going to lie you shook that [ __ ] earlier I got a I got a thing on me you that [ __ ] wiggle a little bit let's let's pivot though cuz yep hit a pivot uh yeah do we have a speaker should we play Jasper's new song or something you got a new one I thought you were lazy some new [ __ ] go ahead play on your phone just put it in the speaker put it in the mic too this the [ __ ] I'm dropping when I'm Indie that sound decent I'm not rapping either I'm yapping that's not going to get you drunk yo I made this beat that's crazy I like the way you look I won't lie you got something I need you my with a fly girl like you doing with no guy a little sh don't really go outside I'm not crazy right place and right time you all smiles and pretty light brown [Music] [Music] like that better if I forget you but I just can't time saying do better and I'm sure you can find that guy that's worth all right cut it cut it cut it that's that's enough that's enough that's enough that's enough for real can't give the whole thing it's not out yet yeah hey good [ __ ] that's fire I'll be rapping though but that's some pop [ __ ] just cuz I can do it so why are you consistent cuz I'm lazy and jaded and and spoiled yeah it's unfortunate maam shout out to the homies for a lot of talented people out there that just are yeah don't smoke crack yo also there there is a parallel there don't do don't do that there's a parallel with the same thing he's talking about I think Fighters probably where it's like you could have all the talent in the world he's got that's why I get so [ __ ] mad at him it's cuz he has all the talent in the world really I get more pissed off than he gets and he could be a superstar but he just is lazy he doesn't put the work in he's not he's not strategic and it is hard when you got when you live in a crib in Puerto Rico right you got chefs and [ __ ] and you fly private with me yeah that's it that's it bro that's it you got to you got get paychecks and [ __ ] y'all got to evict me that's not a bad idea honestly I think we talked about it let's make I was I'm H we had a conversation but I just can't I can't because I love you so much I need you but then I'll probably be more like need you y yeah I guarante and then we you would still have to like fly in once a week to to do the pods and it would be resentment and then I I'll go out like and I'll try to start shooting at y'all oh my God I guarantee I would be in the position I'm in if I if I had money and like had already made it like financially had [ __ ] I wouldn't have made it that's why people think I'm crazy but CC the other side of it is like boom right so I'm from com California same hey shout out my [ __ ] yeah man I was homeless for the first half of my life mom's a drug addict dad's a gang member I've never had anything in my life right and my whole life has been music I dropped out in ninth grade I was like I'm going to make music my dad kicks me out he's like you can't live under this roof like be more like your brothers my brothers are [ __ ] star students one got a full ride scholarship loser all all type of [ __ ] nerd ass [ __ ] all those [ __ ] are fat and unemploy now one dropped out of school a full rise scholarship and is just sitting at home right so boom from having nothing to like me saying I'm going to risk everything that I have in my life to become a music artist and it works I get to a certain place and I'm like damn I did exactly I hit a ceiling right so it's like now I had to recalibrate he got a big record deal and then and then like use I crashed out and became a m addict for four four days a week for 30 like 90 days oh it's not bad but then I moved cuz my homeboy was like you need to move and I was like nah [ __ ] that I made a million I ain't going to move I'm going to maintain this lifestyle I'm a junkie but I'm rich yep I crashed out and was like yeah I need to move lost 60 lbs went to Puerto Rico locked in recalibrated and now I'm ready to be but that's that's here's the problem we run into now is that you've recalibrated and now it's still it's been 6 months the album's supposed to be 6 months ago and we're still waiting for the album that's the problem and that's what you got to work on never too late though let's start it let's get because you're vitamin deficient right yeah yeah cuz like a lot of people can't think straight when they're vitamin deficient and all that a week ago kind of elaborated on that so yeah this isn't therapy um I got shout out Suzie right right huh Susie but she's hot is she not you think my therapist you guys got the same one I could pee and vape on this podcast I got to go pee go pee I could pee yeah I mean I think we I think we end the episode because uh let's wrap it up you can get W available at Walmart anyway if you walk into Walmart whether you with your mom your daddy you by yourself you go in that [ __ ] men body care aisle you buy that and comment down below what you thought of the episode for um us being brain fried over and uh jper but Buzz also comment cuz this coming out when the product releases comment your favorite scent and sent $10,000 right no I'm send you 1,000 I ain't got 10,000 for you but I'll send you 1,000 I'll send someone 10,000 he'll send you 10,000 I'll send you a th000 and I'm going through the comments for sure anyway good luck Charlie and if you got a test soon good luck on that [ __ ] that's what we [Music] do what are those 8 O gloves I want you to know they were talking up there he ain't going easy so be ready all right legit be ready buddy I'm using these bags don't show Too Much don't show we're boxing we're boxing I don't I do that on accident sometimes just know that that might come up just keep your hands up I'm just saying I might throw that up I haven't knocked someone out in a while just cuz my last fight didn't go off it went off five rounds I've been like craving just putting someone's lights out lately it's weird versus your boy better Derek I I hope Sean isn't nice and just [ __ ] him up that's your that's your trainee [ __ ] D all righty folks welcome to your main event of the evening starting out first in the loser corner you have better day with a record of no wins no losses I beat ste's [ __ ] out no anything he is 5'7 120 lbs lost in the mile to better JoJo but he's still delusional in his fighting career and to my left in the winning Corner sponsored by W sugar sha Ali The Undefeated UFC champion of the world it's time to fight bring it to the center we already spoke about the rules in the locker room beforehand give me your glove give me your hand touch gloves I want a clean fair fight no no hits below the waist back to your Corners time you ready judge you ready and fight [Music] [Applause] I'm out of balance or something oh do Dodge that [ __ ] hold on hold on hold on hold [ __ ] come on come on just oh my God one back of the head no no no back of the head four ref didn't see it five six me in the eyes Walk This Way Walk This Way for me he's running Walk This Way for me my car run all right and we're in in that right that's called all right time time time one two that was a that was a slip four up six bro Rizo what the [ __ ] are you doing all right get up SLP all right come on time in come on got come on got you [ __ ] black I'm going to I need to work I need to see some work black UT D somebody said 10 seconds like 8 seconds ago all right great back to your corner back to your corner back to your corner stay in there you're doing good right now this feel good I feel good do you see that one I landed clean on his face I think we all terrible shut the [ __ ] up for once in your [ __ ] life shut the [ __ ] up Sean's doing half punches on him shut up I'll act like uh no don't act like bro I'm just I'm putting in work all right how this how you when you [ __ ] beat the old wash UFC fighters everybody comments you're fighting old was UFC fighters what do you think 10s I think they're right in in round two round two round two oh got him [ __ ] oh [Music] [ __ ] hey put that hey that that's a that's going to be a 10 count can't get me by the that's going to be a 10 count that's 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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXPZ1KzdpsY	4,103	mXPZ1KzdpsY	2024-06-20 00:00:00	well well well ladies and gentlemen do we have a special episode for you today none other than sugar Shan om Ali the current UFC bantamweight champion a legend in his own right this episode was off the cusp we were a little turned up Jasper was really really drunk so we weren't really prepared for this at all the conversations definitely got wild and obviously as you guys have seen over maybe the past week or so we launched a new company called w am men's carine in Walmart this company is so near and dear to my heart and I partnered with Shawn to bring this Vision to life amongst other celebrities artists and athletes that we are announcing over the next couple of weeks here get your w at Walmart it is very very very very very good stuff and yes you heard the news I am fighting Mike Perry on July 20th it is going down I'm still fighting Mike Tyson November 15th that is happening but I'm staying active knocking out Mike Perry on July 20th and I'm excited for y'all to listen to this episode and he the vision of w how it all came together and how Shawn got involved and then everything to do with Shawn's career this podcast has been a long time coming but prepare yourself for some idiocracy per usual uh this is [ __ ] with Jake Paul we have a secret handshake check it out AC let me get that stop playing mean yeah we created that because we actually have so many things to get into here this has been a long time coming Jasper did bring up something and the reason W was created was because the other products in the category had harmful dyes parabens sulfates hormone disruptors and so we wanted to create the better for you vitamin infused product and and Sean's a co-owner just signed today yesterday for the show but we we'll get into all of that we we've been you know bringing sea on for like we've been talking for like a month and a half yes sir yes sir um it is currently May we've been doing a lot of shoots this podcast will probably come out at post W launch you can get I'm so drunk I'm sorry y'all you can get it in uh Walmart every Walmart you in Paca Walmart get it in you in Pensacola it's in Walmart in Kentucky Walmart Walmart so basically uh we we brought in the greatest people in the world to help build W and Sean is one of those people but dialing everything back we will get into the company the body washes how this all came about but uh we've been wanting to do this podcast and thanks for joining us BR hey guys hey thanks for joining us right did you uh yeah I did you sh for an hour bro did you did you do do we know do we set the stage of the day and the fact that Jasper's slash right now okay cool y drunk is a [ __ ] y like double drunk yep yep yep you drunk yeah all that so um but just winding everything back uh I think we've been friends for a long time in fact you were the first guest on this show oh [ __ ] crazy Zoom crazy that's right that's right that's right the first ever episode you zoomed in and that's crazy we're thankful we're thankful for our friendship and it's pretty cool that now we're here again today uh getting less views than before and that's fire that's it congratulations less views we're not we're not it was it was a joke it was a joke if you watching this please like and comment cuz we falling off right now but man by the time this comes out you're going to be getting ready for me RAB how do you say his name I don't remember morab is iTab or or I don't know me that's got to be it me but you got to say it with the emphasis look meab mirab meab meab there you go there you go so yeah I should be getting ready hopefully I ain't got nothing scheduled hopefully uh you know Uncle Dana will call me say hey buddy you want to fight in in here and there and there and then I'm d b boom and that that's how that works what's up with everybody on your body though everybody talking [ __ ] even people youat I wanted to bring up yeah and he's like saying like he's trying to post about you even yesterday it is weird but when you concuss someone you know what I just say they don't think as well as they used to so I think he's still concussed and he's a little confused because he's talking [ __ ] still he not in his right mind because I can just throw up another post go because it's a throwback Thursday it's a throwback Friday do you think do you think people don't respect you enough cuz I I see that as your friend an unbiased like they just see social media and podcasts and the the hair and stuff like that and then they just sh week but I [ __ ] with you I appr that um I don't think it is well you can't you know I think it's fine I think you're jealous I ain't going to lie I got some inches under here let's smell that hair you can smell my [ __ ] must who I do think I feel a little bit disrespected as the champ but I think that last fight against Che kind of you know shut a little bit of people up canny go five rounds Cheeto beat me before the Alo fight um shut a lot of people up canny grapple didn't have to Grapple cuz he couldn't take me down yeah Alo couldn't take you down I think that was the biggest thing where they were like yo that's his weakness like yeah wrestle him down and then he just proved everyone wrong that's what's so interesting about this morab fight is he's supposedly well he is he's [ __ ] good at wrestling he's really really good at wrestling he's boring as [ __ ] and no one will there won't be one comment saying yeah right he's actually kind of fun not one person I'm com won I'm com you can I ask you something would you put yourself in your own top five Strikers in the UFC oh I'm yeah yo easily who's your Mount Rushmore strikker well I I mean I would unbiasedly I would put him as number one because adna is in like top three but he also like got beat by put that [ __ ] down boy he did uh bro I'm up there I'm up there Max is really good Max super his striking that's a good top five there that's four me Max Elia adaga uh I'm sure I'm missing some your with a one would it be that's that's a minus one Mount rmore is four yeah but I only got four but if you throw the five in it's a plus one isn't there only four yeah but but you ready to throw the five up I'm four all right that's my more but yeah once again uh this is a [ __ ] ass podcast so we apologize hey but something something you just touched on you talked about Fighters being fun and interesting how much and you're you're a superstar how much of you being a superstar how much of any fighter being a superstar comes down to them being fun and interesting as you are and how much of it comes down to their actual fighting good question uh well who's a super who who obviously Connor comes to mind I think he's he's a character he's fun he's interesting who else comes to mind is like a superstar I would say Izzy gives that off I think he's an interesting guy other than that there's not like a ton of fun like Ryan Garcia is doing a really good job right now of being [ __ ] interesting being a character uh I think that's fentel I think it's drugs as well I wouldn't deny that but he's still making people interested in Ryan versus Devon Haney was an interesting fight not because Devon Haney that dude's boring as [ __ ] you think he did them roids no I don't think Ryan did I think Devon needs to take that L he being a [ __ ] about I think the craziest [ __ ] you said to me and like I don't even know if we want to put this in there or bring it up but we we can always remove it but uh because of your your situation with the ostarine and you said to me like and it I like fully felt your energy you're like I swear on my daughter's life I never did that and you got popped for it yeah same thing happened uh to Ryan right now he popped for aost the low super low level a some [ __ ] like a trillionth of a gr the same thing happened to me uh so when that came out with Ryan like I truly truly didn't believe he took anything because it was the same [ __ ] and it happens to a lot of [ __ ] ostarine happens to how does that happen it's called the tainted supplement so if you're taking anything that has protein in it that's not third party tested uh could not just protein any kind of supplement that's not third party tested it's either NSF or there's a bunch of different third party tests but if you're not if you're taking something that doesn't have that there's chances there could be something in it but austram people pop for that all the time my case was not that big of a deal cuz I wasn't as huge of a star as I am now but it still was like a big deal because of my name the reason it's going so crazy right now is because Ryan G is a superstar so people are freaking out but it happens to a lot of athletes I just before we move past it I just on that Superstar topic how is that is that Superstar factor that that someone like you has someone like Ryan has someone like Connor has is it something you're born with or is it is it a practice is it something you can learn and do you sit back and like think like oh how can I go viral today how can I I think it's both I think you have to want to be a superstar there's some guys in the UFC like I want to make more money I want this I want that but they don't really want to be a superstar you you got to want it you got to you got to have some kind of vision a long time before well and and also like who you are as a person you have to have that like Fire Within still though like before you got into want famous I want to be in the NFL I want to be NBA I wanted to be a [ __ ] athlete when I was young was instilled I was just for whatever reason I wanted to make it when I was young I'm from H in Montana like small ass can I ask you something what's your opinion on like the take b nickel takes like where he's like super friendly and humble and like I think he's a sweet ass [ __ ] they love him but like bro that [ __ ] pisses me off I think that [ __ ] is cool too n like you're a hum like [ __ ] talk your [ __ ] you're what 670 like bro talk your [ __ ] like it it kind of bores me no I get yeah I mean that's that's some people's opinion is like he's too nice too humble too that but he's being himself um but he's also super young in the sport I think he and he's still pretty what is he 28 you're in a sport of War if I was playing like [ __ ] Cricket I would be like yeah like but that's that's the thing is for for for a character like him what it seems like is that's what he's in is the sport of war and that's it he's not in the sport of entertainment he's a nice ass sweetheart get there is some people that that understand both sides of things but I also have respect for and I see when someone's that's strictly in the sport of if I play chess with you I'm going to be like good game and I'm going to shake your hand I talk [ __ ] be F ass to a PO it I'm going to be like [ __ ] you you need to get better at whatever you're doing dial dialing it back a little bit um to the aost stream thing I think it's like what do you think about Conor tweeting still at like 3:00 a.m. like coked out he he he he sent shots at me and Ryan talking [ __ ] but it's it's crazy coming from Connor who literally got out of the usada pool to do steroid like legit steroids so it's kind of wild and I was the biggest Connor fan for a long time in the last couple weeks ever since he sent that wasn't even a couple weeks ago probably a week ago I've been trying to hate him I've been trying to be like [ __ ] you Connor but I can't I love Connor I it's like I am excited for his fight coming up I'm excited I want you know I'm all about it what's the fight is it Chandler Chandler in June it's going to be big they just been trying to do it for a long time so I didn't know if it still still I think officially I think it's I think I think the craziest part about it is what like eight weeks before a fight that he's still like coked and drunk out of his mind who you got though who that's a good it is crazy that he still like he tweeted that deleted like 20 minutes later he was definitely [ __ ] up on well that's what I was going to say we can't just Grace past that do you is that that's a that's a bold thing to say do you you know he's on coke is that a is that are you [ __ ] gills I don't know anything but I know for certain that he's brother like look at the time of the tweets and look at what he's saying like also and he's like known for this simar tweets yeah yeah I don't know just manic brother I think he is I do think Ryan is I think he when he said he was playing into it a little bit I I think he's kind of using that I think he's [ __ ] crazy what what what would happen if you and Ryan boxed that's I mean there's only one way to find out he has a lot better chances of beating me in a boxing match than he does in a real fight keep up I do I I [ __ ] I truly believe in myself that's how I got to the [ __ ] position I'm in right now I can box I can throw hands um I don't think it'd be easy by any means I do think it's possible I beat him I'm not saying my my odds are great but I do believe I could beat Ryan Bo if there was anybody you could box for your first boxing match debut who are you Bo give an easy fight give me Deon Haney you give [Laughter] me honest answer uh I mean if we're I I would say Floyd if I Pi if I could sit here and pick who I box first boxing fight I pick Floyd because it would be the biggest most crazy most legendary fight maybe not most legendary some people for me okay but outside of that on a skill based level oh I I could hang with some good [ __ ] pro boxers I'm undefeated in boxing you think you think if you and uh ilot boxed that' be ilot is very very [ __ ] skilled boxing that's an interesting question so who what what professional boxer would you equate your PA Mike Tyson I know of Devon Haney now because Ryan Garcia beat him uh dvon Davis he's really short I know him um maybe smacking [ __ ] up though he does he that little guy he can't he can't ride roll coasters though that is true so there's a there's a tradeoff like Cruz fight he was riding a roller coaster no like I'm talking about like at the fair oh no you know like there there's a trade-off in life you know where things get weird it's like it's like yo he's really good but you can't even just hit Dante fan brother can't even ride the top not a Dante fan that's not what I'm wait what did what did I say to say I'm not a you didn't say I mean I don't think he knows that it's a short joke I don't think he picked up on you want me tell him I was joking shut the [ __ ] up I get I say that was a joke I'm what are you trying to say I'm but are you trying to insinuate that I'm short no honestly you're probably what five you're 5'9 you're like 5' seven and a half stop doing stop doing it stop doing that cuz [ __ ] is going to see this and be like he's 5'6 actually if you watching this and you think I'm 5'6 and you want to try me in person please any [ __ ] who see me out I'm punching your [ __ ] out I'm like 5'9 on a good day when when I'm lying to women I'm 5'10 for sure who's gonna ID me I'm wearing forces I'm a [ __ ] liar all right so now for the truth jakee he's like what like he's 5 No but don't do that bro all right all right we won't we'll cut that out like yeah n don't cut it out n don't see me and see these but you know dvon is 5'5 legit that's cool bro I know but is that not short just be honest is that five five short for a grown man for a grown man is that short you can be a fan I'm not I'm a fan of javante and he's five that's a little little bro all right the joke went over his head anyways so the short joke [ __ ] is trying to play me like I'm short no no no we're we're not we're not you're [ __ ] tall all right let's pivot yeah so um SI yeah sh shout out to the shout out to the pivot but but yeah like Jasper's a little riled up things are on edge he's a little he's a little turned up it's been a long day a long two days we've been shooting uh because we have a new [ __ ] company did we say we talk about that yet I we said in the beginning raise your arms up [ __ ] goed [ __ ] goed shout out to w a fun few days it's been a fun few days days you're going to see the content rolling out um but you speaking of but Ruby Rose did a good job oh my God I wanted to bite that M listen anyway if you're near wmart if you're watching this right now I don't give a [ __ ] what you're doing you could be taking care of your kid you could be taking care of your elderly parents [ __ ] them go to Walmart June 1st Nationwide I don't care if you in Pensacola you in Massachusetts all in places that sound [ __ ] stupid there's a Walmart there and you go there it's a better for you product vitamin ifuse number [ __ ] one yeah no basically I I think dialing back like the business story of it because you're also like a very smart businessman intellectual doing everything you do in and outside of the Ring which a lot of people don't have which contributes to you being uh the biggest in my opinion the biggest UFC star um but yeah we we basically I guess this is the podcast where we tell people where W came from but um we started building this company like a year and a half ago and really saw how all these other companies like as we move into better for you products and less harmful products we saw how the leaders in the space didn't have the best formulas didn't have the best manufacturing had all of these harmful substances in it and we're also brands from when I was like 9 years old I don't want to list names but they're still like having all the Shelf space in stores and I was just like this is wild like this is boring this is lame the the the we need something new we need something that's better uh males have vitamin uh deficiencies like crazy especially with magnesium Jasper just can't get enough of it uh especially with magnesium um and biotin is in the body wash uh vitamin E one two of the best vitamins for your skin and hair um but as The Story Goes long story short we we come up with this brand that represents so many things um but I think winning in everyday life whether you're the valedictorian whether you are the high school jock whether you're philanthropist now you have a product that you can embody and wear every single day that's increasing your vitamin intake that is less harmful to you that's where the idea came from and just being the winning formula in category uh went to Walmart pitched them the whole idea they [ __ ] loved it helped us build the brand even and come up with the scent profiles and all the things that are the the most popular um and this has been something I've wanted to do for so long we had to bring in the best people to be a part of it the winners in their category and that's number one Numero Uno sha Ali here um and he instantly saw the vision and already in the past couple of days it's been like super fun filming all the content behind yeah I was pumped when you [ __ ] called me appreciate you thinking of me and uh excited to help grow this business [ __ ] it's needed it's needed we're going to take over the whole bathroom you know tooed if you [ __ ] with the dogs and cows and chickens dog in you I know what I got that dog in me and I use it so be dog free baby am I missing anything with that no I think that was great the one the one thing I would touch on and you did in a way but it's it is body wash it is body spray it is deodorant but it also is there's an ethos that stands behind this brand which is the ethos that you stand for and it's the ethos that you stand for and the ethos that you stand for and the one that I stand for if I say ethos again I'm GNA start stumbling over my words but it's it's it's like you said it it doesn't the winners in life aren't just you you're on a big stage in life you're you're you're crushing it in every aspect financially you're a star you're leading your sport that's awesome on every [ __ ] level it's it's an encouragement to to young men all around the world to [ __ ] get up off their ass and get sh it don't matter if you score high on a test you whatever the [ __ ] it is that you do well maybe not so it matters what the [ __ ] you do but it also doesn't matter what the [ __ ] you do anybody is a winner as long as you put in the work and you have the will to win and I love it I I would say that's wrong I would say that not anybody is a winner and I think that's something that the brand also stands for like you really got to win you got to as you have the will to win no I'm just saying I think that's an important point cuz we live in a world today where a lot of people think everybody can be a winner that's not true if you Los you might be a loser and if you're a loser the good news is there's a hidden l in the logo actually we'll trace it for you with our graphic design team there's a hidden l in the logo because and I I I wanted to make sure that was was a thing because the biggest loss of my life turned out to be the biggest W in my life and I always had the saying like two L's make a w and when I lost to Tommy Fury it was embarrassing all these things but I realized I wasn't focused I wasn't as locked in as I could be the team around me from a boxing standpoint wasn't good I was having personal issues with relationships and all of these things that I had to shed and grow from and I grew into this new and completely different person but I wouldn't have done that if I didn't lose on the biggest stage possible and I think that was part of the ethos ethos ethos ethos of the brand was to encourage people that in their lowest moments to turn those into into their biggest W's eventually when Jake just said that the biggest loss of his life ended up being the biggest W of his life you said same yeah yeah same what what was that story for supposedly lost for lost to Cheeto back in 2020 August it it was I mean it sucked at the time but I it didn't suck too bad because I was like okay I didn't lose because I you know and it was different I wasn't I mean I was focused everything went good training camp everything was good but I was like that sucks I'm goingon to get that back someday when the time is right and then my last fight two two months ago in Miami headline I'm the champ defending my belt against that same guy how rewarding was that three and a half years later August three and a half years later boom beat his ass as a fan of yours it made it so sweet because of all the doubters that constantly like put you down and didn't believe in you and said he was going to destroy you and then you he literally like you embarrass him that was a performance of a life you embarrassed the [ __ ] out of him and I think that's literally a prime example of turning l l into into a w and I really that's what that's where the hidden l in the brand in the logo is um and representing that every single day when you see these products in your bathroom and when we say we have a saying it's not just a product it's a lifestyle absolutely trademarked Incorporated All Rights Reserved 2024 brother uh but but yeah man it's it's an honor to have you a part of this and uh we we really made what we think are the best products on the market from the body wash being exfoliating vitamin infused to the body spray what we found out is a lot of these fragrances like you get like these high-end designer brands that have like $500 colognes turns out it only cost them a dollar to make that and they're literally making like $499 on top of that so we had a fine fragrance house is what these places are called and we got the super expensive scents and gave it to people to what they're worth like we're not trying to these products are super super affordable and I think it's so funny because that's the world we live in where like you just label something and get like a European girl to go this is one of the lower priced men's care products on the market yeah if I'm not mistaken and it's it's the $500 fragrance in the affordable bottle because we want everyone we've been using a body wash in the past two days since we got the samples after the shoot and I personally want to say I got the in there you could bleep it out whatever you want to do W's winning n b genuinely that's that's the saying is the it's winning formula cuz it really is like it really is if if we're going to call our company [ __ ] W it has to be the best we the winners winning product indeed indeed winning customers all that type of [ __ ] indeed better Derek today he's just got a punch I'm not Li I talked to him before he left he wants to punch you up bro he's got a punchable face I like him though it's weird it's like God I like that guy but I want [ __ ] KO pick him up and like it's okay boom one more to the liing me earlier and I'm just letting you know don't shoot the messenger on God he said he wants to get in the ring with you I can call him really he oh yeah he he you want to call him yeah where is he at is wait uh no call no call he's coming up oh um he's talking smack he said he actually wants a spar I swear to God he said he wants to get percentage should I go you guys I literally out let that's crazy timeing saying talk [ __ ] to my face if you're going to talk [ __ ] that's crazy timing what were you saying they were telling me you want to get in the ring and Spar bit or they didn't say Spar they said fight yeah I'm down to do either but uh yeah no I'm just sick of the [ __ ] [ __ ] you've been saying on your podcast uh you called me you made fun of my weight and you called me gay I did not no I well okay okay you said that he wouldn't ever say that what you got to say what your chest that's what I just [ __ ] said bro I he was like oh if I if stand on it you talking to him you talking to him you ain't talking to me my assistant Sono would would piece you he's never boxed a day he never I'm here to fight your video I'm here to fight you what did I what was the first thing I said to you when when I saw you what was the first thing I said to you that we could fight no I said you look thick wait but when we were talking earlier weren't you saying he's a [ __ ] and you wanted to get a ring with him and all type [ __ ] what I'm saying right now say it then I just said the [ __ ] ring so we can after this we have a ring 2 feet away and he's a [ __ ] and whatever else you was saying to me yeah he's [ __ ] what about my hair say something about my hair I I already said that at the W shoot that you look like you haven't showered in [ __ ] a week okay all right d hey buddy hey hey what's your long-term play not no but see you guys you guys are making me seem crazy you're out of your mind he Derek Dereck go warm up hit the hit the heavy back H the warm up is almost listen legendary as send location dble PIV go warm up hey hey double pivot sit sit I'm not [ __ ] no I I'll sit and talk but I'm not [ __ ] no sit on the floor walk you want to take my seat hey how much how much of what's going on ch ch how much of what's going on is is a character versus like actual delusion how much is a character yeah decent uh I would say there are times where I know what I have to do for my boxing career to like like we all why is he laughing cuz you said career I beat your [ __ ] boy your [ __ ] [ __ ] bro you know what I I recall you did beat I recall calling steiny saying what the [ __ ] was that buddy I love steiny but I do remember watching that and thinking I wasn't proud of that I was not proud of that from steiny and I wish I wish he would come to the gym I wish he'd get in there I wish he'd train a little bit and I wish he would have a rematch but that's on him I've been trying to get the rematch but he's been ding me do you think Derek won he said I won I thought I thought he won I'd have to rewatch but I do think I come on baby the comments have [ __ ] dragged me for months after that [ __ ] 99% of the comments say I lost so please say it one more time Sean no I said it what I said it's like therapy or something no but to answer your question uh we all know uh uh as Fighters there's a side of promotion stop [ __ ] first of all Gus shut the [ __ ] up our our audio guys uh like can't stop laughing is that the facial his facial hair or is what he's saying bro that's bold of you to talk facial hair bro that's bold of you to I'm not Li you look dirty you look like Jeffrey done training right Jesus I train every day but anyway we know like there's two sides of of promotion as well as the actual athletic competition that is Combat Sports so there are times where I might play up a little bit like hey promoting but let him go let him go all right if you if all if you think I'm all promoting that I'll see you in the [ __ ] ring and I'll knock both you either of you out well um well Jake's a [ __ ] fat [ __ ] right now he weighs like 240 so I got I goty I gotta pick my words wisely like he's Jake's 240 I I know I know but like I'm not going to sit here and pick a fight against somebody that's 240 when I'm se's my weight class when I stopped you in one round like just like but when I was getting started out of come this is where I'm at since then I told him he could have somebody tag team I'm down I'm down to fight anybody in this [ __ ] room not one person in this room I'm the best part about this is like uh right after this we I think you're you're down to do like one round or three minutes right I mean I'd prefer 12 but we okay yeah 12 I mean that my biggest advantage in the ring ring is my cardio I do 12 12 okay so no I have a genuine question so five round I'm not I'm not one have I ever said I'm a UFC fighter no I'm just say we can box I'm just saying that's I'm used to five you want to do three we could do that aren't you trying to be a boxer with your [ __ ] Ryan Garcia call he would knock knock your [ __ ] ass out so quickly it wouldn't be close I'm one and0 pro boxing what are you actually I saw that video I saw video I'm also want to know thank you officially hey they count that's real commiss but uh I didn't mean I didn't mean to take I didn't mean to take over the pot I just wanted to a couple you definitely didn't yeah okay I try I'm trying to help you no we love you go warm up yeah yeah go warm up the bags don't warm up too much though don't get tired how much do you wa right now without Timberlands and jean shorts on high 120 low 13 no without lying though okay that [ __ ] is you think you got you got him one round I think I could beat him I think I can beat him I I think I could handicap myself to three just put on one glove I could do that what do you think actually happens now when you go downstairs and he gets in that ring like what's his plan that's what I don't get about him but that's why it's that's do me a favor that's why he's Cloud it up because love [ __ ] up [ __ ] he's going he's going to try to Yap he's going to try to talk please just go 100% yeah no actually actually please go 100% if he signs a consent form we'll have him no we've already got like multiple consent forms for better media with like death wavers [ __ ] no no no but he needs it he needs that I'll go like 40 no go like 75 Sean I'm I'm going to be honest bro don't even go 20% he's the nice [ __ ] bro don't do that bro you want him to go 100% no no to be honest but just like work with him and then just like maybe just just like a really good punching and then he'll give up 75% uh I'm nervous man I'm shaking for Derek yeah yeah that's good I understand that there a couple flinches if you Flinch hard enough the the wind coming off you will put him down let him walk you down and bait him boom sleeping what's your next upcoming fight a maraba jaaba and when is that uh not nothing yet I'm hoping for September maybe October maybe November maybe December I'm F ready to go baby what if it was next month I wouldn't be ready to go I like I like 10 to 12 weeks 10 to 12 he likes eight I mean I I normally do like 10 yeah just like but I've been super the first few weeks are [ __ ] pre-amps this Camp I'm channeling my Ryan Garcia would you ever do a Ryan Garcia regiment during Camp drink and smoke every night you do a little I I probably yeah I'm not actually doing that for the people out there he's locked in clocked in locked in locked in ready to go yeah May 20th we start but by the time the people see this it'll be uh June or something like that that is crazy you're fighting Mike that you fought Ben asran wrestler good good [ __ ] UFC was really good UF bit Tyron Woodley twice Anderson Silva knockout of the year with Nate Robinson can't forget about deji deji the the the goat do we say Gibb or is that like that's just crazy resume like literally [ __ ] C by way thank you Gib cuz we had a really good party after he knocked you the [ __ ] out who W we're skipping two professional boxers this always no no the recent ones this always happens I'm trying to just think cuz two cuz this is what everybody asked for this is what everybody asked for who who are the two professional boxers you fighted you got to name them Andre August and Ryan Borland go okay people don't people are like fight a pro boxer and then I do and then they're like that was boring as a man of combat he what were 10 and one nine and one nine and one what is your take on his [ __ ] all of his fights and who he's fighting in the competition dude I've been excited as [ __ ] since I started I remember you I remember the first time I watched was the Nate Robinson I watched that one at home and then uh I don't remember what it was after that but I remember watching Ben Asam in Atlanta I think that was the first time we actually met was right after the fight I think we hugged I was like y I picked you up you carried me back to the locker room that it was love at first sight that was crazy actually yeah actually I [ __ ] with him we became best friends like a couple days later you going to leave me hanging no no I would it's my eyebrow but uh yeah no I think he's obviously super skilled I think it's and I I it's inspired me even in the position I'm at UFC World Champ sexy you know what I mean like tall dark handsome TR inspired me just business the business uh side of things that you've done I've always thought putting on massive fight that's why I'm such a huge Conor fan cuz the pay-per-views he's done is so [ __ ] he's been fighting for four years and [ __ ] that he's been doing the massive fights the fights I get excited for there's a few UFC fights the high the big big fights that I get excited for but every time you fought even when uh Logan fought Floyd I was [ __ ] like excited like all fight week so i' I've been inspired from what you've done from a business side from the boxing side they even just start so not late but for a boxer but these boxers start when they're [ __ ] three four years old like Ryan and tank like they're young buck the Tik Tac I sent you of Devon Haney's debut fight yeah it's wild he was fighting a five foot Mexican in a in a bar was it Dante bro if I show you this [ __ ] oh no I did see that I did see that I did see that when you started even seeing that first video fighting Anderson Silva six fights in bro like do you know how insane that is he's one of the greatest correct me if I'm wrong UFC Strikers in history yeah 100% so does that make me one of the greatest UFC Strikers and one of the greatest wrestlers cuz wood but Ben ask was but Nate Diaz is ducking me in MMA oh am crazy I am weak that's a sick fight MMA I I wish it was that would happened right after the boxing same he's actually ducking it which is why it's crazy because he's not he's not in UFC no but we we upped it to 15 million damn that's crazy though that would be a I like Nate Diaz but that would be such a fun buildup he actually doesn't want to do it all Sean how do you genuinely Jake's not here it's me and you in a room actually how do you see that fight going for Jake what MMA him you're not here J for Nate in MMA keep it a bean God it's it's so hard to you're a big [ __ ] right now on what weight would it be5 185 I don't hate I don't I it's not a it's a winable fight for you I really do think that but Nate is so [ __ ] you would have to do what I did against aljo and morab do not let that [ __ ] grab you not that you can't wrestle cuz I know you can wrestle but once he starts grabbing you and doing Jiu-Jitsu if he gets on top his little he likes his little trips it would be hard for you to win I feel like if he if he started grappling just pure Jiu-Jitsu if it let's be real if it goes to the floor is he [ __ ] if he's on his back Nate's not like a super strong guy so if you learn how to like I mean I'm sure you know how to get up to a single legegg stuff like that but then you start getting your neck grabbed I don't know how much Jiu-Jitsu you know I mean Nate's a [ __ ] high Lev black belt um if you could keep it standing 100% there's winnable ways there if he if he went to the ground feel like he might be able to grab your neck no that that's exactly how I feel about it if I don't get guillotined yeah then I win the fight because even if he was on top take your back but even if he was on top of me I would just throw him off of me cuz he's also the weakest puncher I've ever fought like when he was hitting me I was I almost like started laughing I'm I'm not even saying this to talk [ __ ] out of everyone I've sparred in my whole entire life and everyone I fought his punches are even me we I don't think you ever landed a punch on me is that true well that's not true so I don't anyone no I'm literally not even talking [ __ ] which is why I think it's funny that he dropped Connor and [ __ ] cuz it's just like how Conor with like to the ground yeah like with a straight left hand yeah which is crazy like I I'm not just talking [ __ ] when I say that and I've told you I've literally told you this you told me this after the fight yeah I was like he is the weakest puncher I've ever fought in my life who's who's the weakest puncher you've ever you've ever come to face um there I mean there's been so many fights where I later didn't even get hit um uh does that like make you jaded at all when you get into a fight and you don't really get love that [ __ ] I prefer not to get hit at all but like if I was you and I wasn't get hit at all I'd probably work less no no no no I I know I don't get hit because I work that hard so if I didn't work hard I know I'd probably get hit I'm just a lazy [ __ ] so so here you are on top of the world we're launching [ __ ] W going to be a billion dollar business [ __ ] you I always forget uh UFC champ accomplishing all your goals what do you want next uh what are what is the threeyear fiveyear for Sean I I truly do want to get a boxing fight I'm not I'm not super set on that to where like I'm like going to be [ __ ] if it doesn't happen I do think it'll be interesting especially if I go out there knock morab out Ryan does his thing I think there's a [ __ ] sweet fight there if it doesn't happen not that worried about it want to go out there beat morab I'd like to you know if Max Max and Elia fight I would like to fight go move up to 45 fight the winner of that um you know maybe have three to five maybe have a few more kids definitely want another little baby I love kids my fite pump him out shout out to Danny who's your top pick in a boxing fight though if you if you could choose your Ryan now was like the I mean what he after dvon Beat Ryan I was like javante then Ryan goes out there does his thing really though I think Dante do you is that is that not a big [ __ ] leap Ryan like you said before he's been doing this his whole life one thing that's been proven is that the crossover it's it's not a good return Fury he did his thing okay the excep is the exception we've seen it with okay but then Anthony Joshua put his ass t was crazy super night night he was I'm I'm here for big fights like I wanted to get into the UFC and I wanted to make big fights watching Conor versus Floyd I'm like that [ __ ] happened really happened hey you versus Derek that could be as big as Connor in Floyd but no but I I think the craziest [ __ ] about Conor versus Floyd is that overall it was a W for everyone involved so there's certain fights where it just like doesn't matter what happens that's the world we live in yeah I mean UFC told me they said if the if the fight's big enough and it'll make the UFC money they'll do it what means more to you your your your record being pre or the amount of money you're making all right let me ask you something it's about to get real J's drunk Jasper's drunk as [ __ ] y record or money [ __ ] it depends the Gap like like the gap of money if it's like an extra 10 15 20 million but I lose a couple important fights probably not you just take like 150 million I'll be like like [ __ ] my record baby yeah it depends on the gap of money Jake Paul is not here right now just like a Mayweather Conor McGregor you taking that fight ver Jake yeah no he's my buddy I could I mean I don't I don't even no I no funny no there's you know what's funny is always in my Snapchat story once once a day pretty much someone says we knock out Jake Paul like there's every sing all the time for so long people just want to see me get [ __ ] is good though that's like the thing yeah but I'm sensitive it is funny though people [ __ ] love to hate confidence the craziest thing though actually about both of you like I met you very recently like I didn't realize you're as like normal as you are I don't know why I thought you violent like you guys are both like very goofy mellow and stupid and c and and awesome it's like the greatest thing ever like I couldn't believe when I met you you're like one of us like yeah I wouldn't think you're a [ __ ] yeah one of the coolest people in the world for sure yeah but not a lot of people uh can like I don't know we have like a weird it's hard toes Meat Heads I'm like this the this my dog I think it's a little bit of dark humor too it's like some [ __ ] up [ __ ] that we say off camera [ __ ] sometimes but I think it's like there's a certain yeah like that's how my whole group is back home it's like we all just we're all just kind of [ __ ] dumb I'm smart but like they're dumb well someone commented like yo Jake Paul's the dumbest genius in the world and I was just like I say that [ __ ] all the time you wed up the other day and I was like this is the most genius dumbass in the world no jokes Hey Brother chill buddy trying to get me cancelled no what how old are you 23 are you really yeah no you're not he's not is he what do you think think what did you think Oh no you're 267 27 what did you think he was I thought he was older I thought he was like 27 26 yeah a niggaer mature was that ladies you got a boo you got a girl you just be slanging she timeout right now I don't really talk about she don't time out it's a little tricky she not taking care of herself what do you guys think about Tom Brady R you watch it yeah they kept comp panning to you every 5 Seconds bro I swear there's a huge camer sitting there the whole time but it's cool to see Netflix going hard like that cuz they went hard they swing that meat around huha yeah let's pivot yeah just sorry about him I'm drunk man not yeah but but it was it was great it wasar they should have got rid of most of the football players going up there yeah there's a couple ones Ben afflac is that who that was on there that was wild that was so weird that was so weird it was cool to see how [ __ ] less sensitive people are becoming I feel like feel like it's recently like there's a big push back I think people got sick of it we went super super super PC for a long time people were like wait a second we like being able to say what we want to say I saw kill Tony say oh type of crazy [ __ ] on there that watch every [ __ ] Monday you were on kill Tony yeah how old are you actually buddy I'm a comedian Budd full time no yeah I was on that I was nervous as hell though I was like just being it's a live I do podcast once a week like me and Tim do our podcast every [ __ ] week but to be there in front of an audience live it's weird it's a different kind of well so you say Tim but let's let's talk about actually the fact that you get trained by by one of the greatest boxers of all time it's really that's something what's happened like that's crazy working with Canelo as your as your coach that's what I'm saying people don't going to be Ryan but like yeah that is true I never even thought about that for did you even know that this guy proba even know that that orange [ __ ] is nice wait will I get cancelled by the ginger community no you're black oh no my dad my dad's Ginger and I'm I'm like this [ __ ] is ginger bro he be shaving he be shaving his beard and I zoom in zoom in it's it's slightly orange so I'm a quarter ginger on South Park they made fun of Gingers and that [ __ ] made the news I [ __ ] with the ginger people but like y'all [ __ ] you like redhead girls oh yeah was Super Soaker but anyway yeah like y'all [ __ ] is orange and that's okay but back to you one of y'all that's not drunk I got a question cuz this guy clipped out a lot did Tim actually like you guys about him like saying to fight that was yeah that was real Tim always be talking [ __ ] to the like he's been doing that for so long so what happened he just talk I mean he just he Alo the knee's coming Alo you got to shoot Alo watch out for this like he's been saying that since I've been in the UFC like my debut vers terion where he was talking [ __ ] to terion too and uh he just does it every fight but this happened to just be crazy timing to like Tim you got Tim like alre you got to go and like literally he he like that's when he threw that left hand or whatever stepped into Southpaw and uh or stepped into Orthodox and got dropped it was it was funny the timing because he's like Al you got to go I don't I truly don't think that's why that's not why Alo went I bet you could I bet Alo didn't even hear that but Tim's always chirping and stuff but people on the internet are [ __ ] mad about that a lot of them actually like it I'll say majority of people are thinking that's the funniest [ __ ] ever there's a couple [ __ ] that are like you should be banned think it's a fight would you run the alra fight back or one and done never I like that why would I yeah am I supposed to top that you know what I'm saying I got love for Alo we had him on the show and he he seems like a good dude I actually don't mind Alo I does that ever happen where like you'll have a personal relationship with someone personal runin with them and it's all great but then now all of a sudden you have to fight each other I've never had I've not of running with someone that's been like uh more than like I've ran into aljo morab at the UFC I'm like hey what's up talk to him a little bit you know nothing no ill will um but I haven't had like a run with someone I actually lik them mhm and then at the fight them so you're not friends with any any other UFC fighters oh I have a there's there's a couple guys in my in my weight class that I train with at the lab that are like climbing the r uh ladders what happened with uh the 125 pounder I I don't even know his name and I'm not I'm just not like yeah what's his name I Alexander pania bro this story is actually kind of funny so 2016 I think it was it was like 3 and0 4 and0 and I was still fighting at like I fought at 125 not too long before that I fought at like 130 which is in a weight class was like so I wasn't like a 155 like I am now I was probably like 14 back then and uh Henry cejudo comes in I'm three or four and0 at the point at this point it comes in with this kid Alexander PTO just won The Ultimate Fighter I think he's got his UFC debut or it's his second UFC fight he's a couple weeks out from his fight I'm [ __ ] the night before me and Tim ripping bongs like hanging out being goofballs and [ __ ] so the next morning so we brought him in for sparring hry sudo brings in Alexander you're 4-0 he's King [ __ ] he he's just won The Ultimate Fighter and so they write the names on on the board who who you're sparring I'm like oh [ __ ] I got Alexander Pantoja versus me for one round one round he has three rounds so you write one one name then usually you you spar with one guy then they go out you spar with a fresh guy they go out spar with the fresh guy that's usually how it works so my name was just up there for one round that's it we Spar one round I didn't know anything about him cuz I I didn't really watch it like that 25 I don't really watch 25ers like that but somebody's like oh [ __ ] that's he a black belt he just won The Ultimate Fighter I was like oh [ __ ] I got to [ __ ] Focus up here first round boom Dro him with a liver kick and I wasn't going to post I record all my rounds I have so many sparring rounds like I wasn't going to post it was and for some reason I don't know why he would talk [ __ ] and bring it up cuz I literally I don't know you know know I don't know if you know how it works but you finish a guy the fight's over right no no did he um so I finished him the first round he hit him boom with the liver I posted the video yesterday and I've had it for a long time I didn't want to post it CU you don't post sparring like that but he just kept bringing it up so boom finished him first round um then uh after the first round round I go to walk out and Henry's over there crying box of Kleenex just like [ __ ] wiping his tears crying we want you for a second round so mad that this little like I was nobody just finished his dude he's in the UFC he's supposed to be the man finish him in the first round so Henry's crying saying he wants another round um so I piece him up again in the second round and I'm I'm dying at this point my lungs are burning I'm not in shape for fight I I'm nowhere near in Camp for a fight and I my lungs are hurting and uh Henry again crying blowing his nose and like I want you for a third and Benson comes in Benson Henderson absolute Legend comes in and was yelling cuz that's his it was the his gym the MMA lab we don't let people come in our gym and make us tired and blah blah blah and I'm [ __ ] just just huffing and puffing I just got done work in this dude for 10 minutes finished him in the first round did I say that liver kick um we'll put the footage I have the foot yeah it's right there insert the footage so third round come out boom piece him up again and he's so I don't know why he keeps bringing up this bringing this up in the media I think it's because people ask him but I don't know why he doesn't just say yeah yeah no no I don't want to talk about it he keeps saying like he's like oh I got in I found his range and [ __ ] I'm like bro you you stopped him in one round stopped him in round one and let him live and continue to fight for round two these delusional uh like wild people are weirdos but the reason I posted cuz he kept bringing it up exactly wait so is he the champ now at 125 yeah okay but why does he still want to talk [ __ ] to you if you got [ __ ] up that's what I'm saying I don't know either either you drop to 125 and get that no I can't drop to 125 that's too much now you're a thick [ __ ] I am a thick but yeah I SP I think it's important for up and cominging Spar uh fighters to record their rounds and watch their rounds not for that this reason you know but just to I've improve so much watching my sparring y I have thousands of rounds maybe not thousands hundreds of rounds from 10 years ago on my on my computer of uh it's like NFL team is watching footage the time [ __ ] 100% got to watch that [ __ ] that's I I have every single round recorded and and again I I don't post sparring either exactly you know put in a highlight video make a vlog boom we're sparring people but it's never like [ __ ] up your guy yeah exactly but Mike Perry honestly like what he's been doing is pretty Fu he went to Bare knuckle that [ __ ] just meant for him bare knuckle fighting it's crazy different going crazy he's doing good he's [ __ ] undefeated over there he's beating some really good guys stay over here [ __ ] [ __ ] only place that you should be getting tickets from is game time.co it's it's the only place I go it is the only place you can possibly go they have 110% price match guarantee that's what we use to get our tickets for the NBA Finals you can get $20 off your first order go to gametime.co JJ a $20 off your first order they're doing a deal specifically for y'all and you could see where your tickets are before you buy them seeing the seats they have all of the these great policies last 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platform there is Mike Paul versus Jake Tyson here's my official prediction tell us and even if even if it's against me like it's not it's not I do think you're going to beat Mike Tyson uh it's crazy that I even saying that out loud right now cuz you're fighting Mike Tyson it's [ __ ] crazy even just when we were walking down the the street today people all genders all ages knew you were fighting Mike Tyson it's such a massive fights live on Netflix which is [ __ ] crazy it's in a stadium which is [ __ ] crazy it is crazy I believe in you I see what you I see what you're doing I see you know that you believe in yourself Mike Tyson is uh hasn't fought in however long it's been so for him to just come up and get a fight be I I'm sure is going to be in as good a shape as he possibly could be in but it's just you know it's it's it's it's not his time right now I love Mike Tyson I never actually met him but I love Mike Tyson I do think Jake's gonna get the job done and I do think eight rounds eight two-minute rounds eight two-minute rounds I believe I believe you could put them away in the later rounds you know five six seven eight I do think you could put it put him down which is crazy to even [ __ ] think you rap yeah that's fire I'm just lazy and inconsistent that's not a w no that sh it is not you start using Brandon yell at him every day but cuz you can actually spit that's fire no but but people know him now from like podcasting they don't know he's a rapper and hurts his soul J sick name Lil jizz what J JZ that's good that's good you should switch your [ __ ] I switch my [ __ ] from come Master to kill Jas bro honestly though that's I think singing rapping spitting is one of the things that if I could switch talents be doing something like that that's good or twerking I ain't going to lie you shook that [ __ ] earlier I got a I got a thing on me you that [ __ ] wiggle a little bit let's let's pivot though cuz yep hit a pivot uh yeah do we have a speaker should we play Jasper's new song or something you got a new one I thought you were lazy some new [ __ ] go ahead play on your phone just put it in the speaker put it in the mic too this the [ __ ] I'm dropping when I'm Indie that sound decent I'm not rapping either I'm yapping that's not going to get you drunk yo I made this beat that's crazy I like the way you look I won't lie you got something I need you my with a fly girl like you doing with no guy a little sh don't really go outside I'm not crazy right place and right time you all smiles and pretty light brown [Music] [Music] like that better if I forget you but I just can't time saying do better and I'm sure you can find that guy that's worth all right cut it cut it cut it that's that's enough that's enough that's enough that's enough for real can't give the whole thing it's not out yet yeah hey good [ __ ] that's fire I'll be rapping though but that's some pop [ __ ] just cuz I can do it so why are you consistent cuz I'm lazy and jaded and and spoiled yeah it's unfortunate maam shout out to the homies for a lot of talented people out there that just are yeah don't smoke crack yo also there there is a parallel there don't do don't do that there's a parallel with the same thing he's talking about I think Fighters probably where it's like you could have all the talent in the world he's got that's why I get so [ __ ] mad at him it's cuz he has all the talent in the world really I get more pissed off than he gets and he could be a superstar but he just is lazy he doesn't put the work in he's not he's not strategic and it is hard when you got when you live in a crib in Puerto Rico right you got chefs and [ __ ] and you fly private with me yeah that's it that's it bro that's it you got to you got get paychecks and [ __ ] y'all got to evict me that's not a bad idea honestly I think we talked about it let's make I was I'm H we had a conversation but I just can't I can't because I love you so much I need you but then I'll probably be more like need you y yeah I guarante and then we you would still have to like fly in once a week to to do the pods and it would be resentment and then I I'll go out like and I'll try to start shooting at y'all oh my God I guarantee I would be in the position I'm in if I if I had money and like had already made it like financially had [ __ ] I wouldn't have made it that's why people think I'm crazy but CC the other side of it is like boom right so I'm from com California same hey shout out my [ __ ] yeah man I was homeless for the first half of my life mom's a drug addict dad's a gang member I've never had anything in my life right and my whole life has been music I dropped out in ninth grade I was like I'm going to make music my dad kicks me out he's like you can't live under this roof like be more like your brothers my brothers are [ __ ] star students one got a full ride scholarship loser all all type of [ __ ] nerd ass [ __ ] all those [ __ ] are fat and unemploy now one dropped out of school a full rise scholarship and is just sitting at home right so boom from having nothing to like me saying I'm going to risk everything that I have in my life to become a music artist and it works I get to a certain place and I'm like damn I did exactly I hit a ceiling right so it's like now I had to recalibrate he got a big record deal and then and then like use I crashed out and became a m addict for four four days a week for 30 like 90 days oh it's not bad but then I moved cuz my homeboy was like you need to move and I was like nah [ __ ] that I made a million I ain't going to move I'm going to maintain this lifestyle I'm a junkie but I'm rich yep I crashed out and was like yeah I need to move lost 60 lbs went to Puerto Rico locked in recalibrated and now I'm ready to be but that's that's here's the problem we run into now is that you've recalibrated and now it's still it's been 6 months the album's supposed to be 6 months ago and we're still waiting for the album that's the problem and that's what you got to work on never too late though let's start it let's get because you're vitamin deficient right yeah yeah cuz like a lot of people can't think straight when they're vitamin deficient and all that a week ago kind of elaborated on that so yeah this isn't therapy um I got shout out Suzie right right huh Susie but she's hot is she not you think my therapist you guys got the same one I could pee and vape on this podcast I got to go pee go pee I could pee yeah I mean I think we I think we end the episode because uh let's wrap it up you can get W available at Walmart anyway if you walk into Walmart whether you with your mom your daddy you by yourself you go in that [ __ ] men body care aisle you buy that and comment down below what you thought of the episode for um us being brain fried over and uh jper but Buzz also comment cuz this coming out when the product releases comment your favorite scent and sent $10,000 right no I'm send you 1,000 I ain't 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you have better day with a record of no wins no losses I beat ste's [ __ ] out no anything he is 5'7 120 lbs lost in the mile to better JoJo but he's still delusional in his fighting career and to my left in the winning Corner sponsored by W sugar sha Ali The Undefeated UFC champion of the world it's time to fight bring it to the center we already spoke about the rules in the locker room beforehand give me your glove give me your hand touch gloves I want a clean fair fight no no hits below the waist back to your Corners time you ready judge you ready and fight [Music] [Applause] I'm out of balance or something oh do Dodge that [ __ ] hold on hold on hold on hold [ __ ] come on come on just oh my God one back of the head no no no back of the head four ref didn't see it five six me in the eyes Walk This Way Walk This Way for me he's running Walk This Way for me my car run all right and we're in in that right that's called all right time time time one two that was a that was a slip four 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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXPZ1KzdpsY	4,103	mXPZ1KzdpsY	2024-06-20 00:00:00	well well well ladies and gentlemen do we have a special episode for you today none other than sugar Shan om Ali the current UFC bantamweight champion a legend in his own right this episode was off the cusp we were a little turned up Jasper was really really drunk so we weren't really prepared for this at all the conversations definitely got wild and obviously as you guys have seen over maybe the past week or so we launched a new company called w am men's carine in Walmart this company is so near and dear to my heart and I partnered with Shawn to bring this Vision to life amongst other celebrities artists and athletes that we are announcing over the next couple of weeks here get your w at Walmart it is very very very very very good stuff and yes you heard the news I am fighting Mike Perry on July 20th it is going down I'm still fighting Mike Tyson November 15th that is happening but I'm staying active knocking out Mike Perry on July 20th and I'm excited for y'all to listen to this episode and he the vision of w how it all came together and how Shawn got involved and then everything to do with Shawn's career this podcast has been a long time coming but prepare yourself for some idiocracy per usual uh this is [ __ ] with Jake Paul we have a secret handshake check it out AC let me get that stop playing mean yeah we created that because we actually have so many things to get into here this has been a long time coming Jasper did bring up something and the reason W was created was because the other products in the category had harmful dyes parabens sulfates hormone disruptors and so we wanted to create the better for you vitamin infused product and and Sean's a co-owner just signed today yesterday for the show but we we'll get into all of that we we've been you know bringing sea on for like we've been talking for like a month and a half yes sir yes sir um it is currently May we've been doing a lot of shoots this podcast will probably come out at post W launch you can get I'm so drunk I'm sorry y'all you can get it in uh Walmart every Walmart you in Paca Walmart get it in you in Pensacola it's in Walmart in Kentucky Walmart Walmart so basically uh we we brought in the greatest people in the world to help build W and Sean is one of those people but dialing everything back we will get into the company the body washes how this all came about but uh we've been wanting to do this podcast and thanks for joining us BR hey guys hey thanks for joining us right did you uh yeah I did you sh for an hour bro did you did you do do we know do we set the stage of the day and the fact that Jasper's slash right now okay cool y drunk is a [ __ ] y like double drunk yep yep yep you drunk yeah all that so um but just winding everything back uh I think we've been friends for a long time in fact you were the first guest on this show oh [ __ ] crazy Zoom crazy that's right that's right that's right the first ever episode you zoomed in and that's crazy we're thankful we're thankful for our friendship and it's pretty cool that now we're here again today uh getting less views than before and that's fire that's it congratulations less views we're not we're not it was it was a joke it was a joke if you watching this please like and comment cuz we falling off right now but man by the time this comes out you're going to be getting ready for me RAB how do you say his name I don't remember morab is iTab or or I don't know me that's got to be it me but you got to say it with the emphasis look meab mirab meab meab there you go there you go so yeah I should be getting ready hopefully I ain't got nothing scheduled hopefully uh you know Uncle Dana will call me say hey buddy you want to fight in in here and there and there and then I'm d b boom and that that's how that works what's up with everybody on your body though everybody talking [ __ ] even people youat I wanted to bring up yeah and he's like saying like he's trying to post about you even yesterday it is weird but when you concuss someone you know what I just say they don't think as well as they used to so I think he's still concussed and he's a little confused because he's talking [ __ ] still he not in his right mind because I can just throw up another post go because it's a throwback Thursday it's a throwback Friday do you think do you think people don't respect you enough cuz I I see that as your friend an unbiased like they just see social media and podcasts and the the hair and stuff like that and then they just sh week but I [ __ ] with you I appr that um I don't think it is well you can't you know I think it's fine I think you're jealous I ain't going to lie I got some inches under here let's smell that hair you can smell my [ __ ] must who I do think I feel a little bit disrespected as the champ but I think that last fight against Che kind of you know shut a little bit of people up canny go five rounds Cheeto beat me before the Alo fight um shut a lot of people up canny grapple didn't have to Grapple cuz he couldn't take me down yeah Alo couldn't take you down I think that was the biggest thing where they were like yo that's his weakness like yeah wrestle him down and then he just proved everyone wrong that's what's so interesting about this morab fight is he's supposedly well he is he's [ __ ] good at wrestling he's really really good at wrestling he's boring as [ __ ] and no one will there won't be one comment saying yeah right he's actually kind of fun not one person I'm com won I'm com you can I ask you something would you put yourself in your own top five Strikers in the UFC oh I'm yeah yo easily who's your Mount Rushmore strikker well I I mean I would unbiasedly I would put him as number one because adna is in like top three but he also like got beat by put that [ __ ] down boy he did uh bro I'm up there I'm up there Max is really good Max super his striking that's a good top five there that's four me Max Elia adaga uh I'm sure I'm missing some your with a one would it be that's that's a minus one Mount rmore is four yeah but I only got four but if you throw the five in it's a plus one isn't there only four yeah but but you ready to throw the five up I'm four all right that's my more but yeah once again uh this is a [ __ ] ass podcast so we apologize hey but something something you just touched on you talked about Fighters being fun and interesting how much and you're you're a superstar how much of you being a superstar how much of any fighter being a superstar comes down to them being fun and interesting as you are and how much of it comes down to their actual fighting good question uh well who's a super who who obviously Connor comes to mind I think he's he's a character he's fun he's interesting who else comes to mind is like a superstar I would say Izzy gives that off I think he's an interesting guy other than that there's not like a ton of fun like Ryan Garcia is doing a really good job right now of being [ __ ] interesting being a character uh I think that's fentel I think it's drugs as well I wouldn't deny that but he's still making people interested in Ryan versus Devon Haney was an interesting fight not because Devon Haney that dude's boring as [ __ ] you think he did them roids no I don't think Ryan did I think Devon needs to take that L he being a [ __ ] about I think the craziest [ __ ] you said to me and like I don't even know if we want to put this in there or bring it up but we we can always remove it but uh because of your your situation with the ostarine and you said to me like and it I like fully felt your energy you're like I swear on my daughter's life I never did that and you got popped for it yeah same thing happened uh to Ryan right now he popped for aost the low super low level a some [ __ ] like a trillionth of a gr the same thing happened to me uh so when that came out with Ryan like I truly truly didn't believe he took anything because it was the same [ __ ] and it happens to a lot of [ __ ] ostarine happens to how does that happen it's called the tainted supplement so if you're taking anything that has protein in it that's not third party tested uh could not just protein any kind of supplement that's not third party tested it's either NSF or there's a bunch of different third party tests but if you're not if you're taking something that doesn't have that there's chances there could be something in it but austram people pop for that all the time my case was not that big of a deal cuz I wasn't as huge of a star as I am now but it still was like a big deal because of my name the reason it's going so crazy right now is because Ryan G is a superstar so people are freaking out but it happens to a lot of athletes I just before we move past it I just on that Superstar topic how is that is that Superstar factor that that someone like you has someone like Ryan has someone like Connor has is it something you're born with or is it is it a practice is it something you can learn and do you sit back and like think like oh how can I go viral today how can I I think it's both I think you have to want to be a superstar there's some guys in the UFC like I want to make more money I want this I want that but they don't really want to be a superstar you you got to want it you got to you got to have some kind of vision a long time before well and and also like who you are as a person you have to have that like Fire Within still though like before you got into want famous I want to be in the NFL I want to be NBA I wanted to be a [ __ ] athlete when I was young was instilled I was just for whatever reason I wanted to make it when I was young I'm from H in Montana like small ass can I ask you something what's your opinion on like the take b nickel takes like where he's like super friendly and humble and like I think he's a sweet ass [ __ ] they love him but like bro that [ __ ] pisses me off I think that [ __ ] is cool too n like you're a hum like [ __ ] talk your [ __ ] you're what 670 like bro talk your [ __ ] like it it kind of bores me no I get yeah I mean that's that's some people's opinion is like he's too nice too humble too that but he's being himself um but he's also super young in the sport I think he and he's still pretty what is he 28 you're in a sport of War if I was playing like [ __ ] Cricket I would be like yeah like but that's that's the thing is for for for a character like him what it seems like is that's what he's in is the sport of war and that's it he's not in the sport of entertainment he's a nice ass sweetheart get there is some people that that understand both sides of things but I also have respect for and I see when someone's that's strictly in the sport of if I play chess with you I'm going to be like good game and I'm going to shake your hand I talk [ __ ] be F ass to a PO it I'm going to be like [ __ ] you you need to get better at whatever you're doing dial dialing it back a little bit um to the aost stream thing I think it's like what do you think about Conor tweeting still at like 3:00 a.m. like coked out he he he he sent shots at me and Ryan talking [ __ ] but it's it's crazy coming from Connor who literally got out of the usada pool to do steroid like legit steroids so it's kind of wild and I was the biggest Connor fan for a long time in the last couple weeks ever since he sent that wasn't even a couple weeks ago probably a week ago I've been trying to hate him I've been trying to be like [ __ ] you Connor but I can't I love Connor I it's like I am excited for his fight coming up I'm excited I want you know I'm all about it what's the fight is it Chandler Chandler in June it's going to be big they just been trying to do it for a long time so I didn't know if it still still I think officially I think it's I think I think the craziest part about it is what like eight weeks before a fight that he's still like coked and drunk out of his mind who you got though who that's a good it is crazy that he still like he tweeted that deleted like 20 minutes later he was definitely [ __ ] up on well that's what I was going to say we can't just Grace past that do you is that that's a that's a bold thing to say do you you know he's on coke is that a is that are you [ __ ] gills I don't know anything but I know for certain that he's brother like look at the time of the tweets and look at what he's saying like also and he's like known for this simar tweets yeah yeah I don't know just manic brother I think he is I do think Ryan is I think he when he said he was playing into it a little bit I I think he's kind of using that I think he's [ __ ] crazy what what what would happen if you and Ryan boxed that's I mean there's only one way to find out he has a lot better chances of beating me in a boxing match than he does in a real fight keep up I do I I [ __ ] I truly believe in myself that's how I got to the [ __ ] position I'm in right now I can box I can throw hands um I don't think it'd be easy by any means I do think it's possible I beat him I'm not saying my my odds are great but I do believe I could beat Ryan Bo if there was anybody you could box for your first boxing match debut who are you Bo give an easy fight give me Deon Haney you give [Laughter] me honest answer uh I mean if we're I I would say Floyd if I Pi if I could sit here and pick who I box first boxing fight I pick Floyd because it would be the biggest most crazy most legendary fight maybe not most legendary some people for me okay but outside of that on a skill based level oh I I could hang with some good [ __ ] pro boxers I'm undefeated in boxing you think you think if you and uh ilot boxed that' be ilot is very very [ __ ] skilled boxing that's an interesting question so who what what professional boxer would you equate your PA Mike Tyson I know of Devon Haney now because Ryan Garcia beat him uh dvon Davis he's really short I know him um maybe smacking [ __ ] up though he does he that little guy he can't he can't ride roll coasters though that is true so there's a there's a tradeoff like Cruz fight he was riding a roller coaster no like I'm talking about like at the fair oh no you know like there there's a trade-off in life you know where things get weird it's like it's like yo he's really good but you can't even just hit Dante fan brother can't even ride the top not a Dante fan that's not what I'm wait what did what did I say to say I'm not a you didn't say I mean I don't think he knows that it's a short joke I don't think he picked up on you want me tell him I was joking shut the [ __ ] up I get I say that was a joke I'm what are you trying to say I'm but are you trying to insinuate that I'm short no honestly you're probably what five you're 5'9 you're like 5' seven and a half stop doing stop doing it stop doing that cuz [ __ ] is going to see this and be like he's 5'6 actually if you watching this and you think I'm 5'6 and you want to try me in person please any [ __ ] who see me out I'm punching your [ __ ] out I'm like 5'9 on a good day when when I'm lying to women I'm 5'10 for sure who's gonna ID me I'm wearing forces I'm a [ __ ] liar all right so now for the truth jakee he's like what like he's 5 No but don't do that bro all right all right we won't we'll cut that out like yeah n don't cut it out n don't see me and see these but you know dvon is 5'5 legit that's cool bro I know but is that not short just be honest is that five five short for a grown man for a grown man is that short you can be a fan I'm not I'm a fan of javante and he's five that's a little little bro all right the joke went over his head anyways so the short joke [ __ ] is trying to play me like I'm short no no no we're we're not we're not you're [ __ ] tall all right let's pivot yeah so um SI yeah sh shout out to the shout out to the pivot but but yeah like Jasper's a little riled up things are on edge he's a little he's a little turned up it's been a long day a long two days we've been shooting uh because we have a new [ __ ] company did we say we talk about that yet I we said in the beginning raise your arms up [ __ ] goed [ __ ] goed shout out to w a fun few days it's been a fun few days days you're going to see the content rolling out um but you speaking of but Ruby Rose did a good job oh my God I wanted to bite that M listen anyway if you're near wmart if you're watching this right now I don't give a [ __ ] what you're doing you could be taking care of your kid you could be taking care of your elderly parents [ __ ] them go to Walmart June 1st Nationwide I don't care if you in Pensacola you in Massachusetts all in places that sound [ __ ] stupid there's a Walmart there and you go there it's a better for you product vitamin ifuse number [ __ ] one yeah no basically I I think dialing back like the business story of it because you're also like a very smart businessman intellectual doing everything you do in and outside of the Ring which a lot of people don't have which contributes to you being uh the biggest in my opinion the biggest UFC star um but yeah we we basically I guess this is the podcast where we tell people where W came from but um we started building this company like a year and a half ago and really saw how all these other companies like as we move into better for you products and less harmful products we saw how the leaders in the space didn't have the best formulas didn't have the best manufacturing had all of these harmful substances in it and we're also brands from when I was like 9 years old I don't want to list names but they're still like having all the Shelf space in stores and I was just like this is wild like this is boring this is lame the the the we need something new we need something that's better uh males have vitamin uh deficiencies like crazy especially with magnesium Jasper just can't get enough of it uh especially with magnesium um and biotin is in the body wash uh vitamin E one two of the best vitamins for your skin and hair um but as The Story Goes long story short we we come up with this brand that represents so many things um but I think winning in everyday life whether you're the valedictorian whether you are the high school jock whether you're philanthropist now you have a product that you can embody and wear every single day that's increasing your vitamin intake that is less harmful to you that's where the idea came from and just being the winning formula in category uh went to Walmart pitched them the whole idea they [ __ ] loved it helped us build the brand even and come up with the scent profiles and all the things that are the the most popular um and this has been something I've wanted to do for so long we had to bring in the best people to be a part of it the winners in their category and that's number one Numero Uno sha Ali here um and he instantly saw the vision and already in the past couple of days it's been like super fun filming all the content behind yeah I was pumped when you [ __ ] called me appreciate you thinking of me and uh excited to help grow this business [ __ ] it's needed it's needed we're going to take over the whole bathroom you know tooed if you [ __ ] with the dogs and cows and chickens dog in you I know what I got that dog in me and I use it so be dog free baby am I missing anything with that no I think that was great the one the one thing I would touch on and you did in a way but it's it is body wash it is body spray it is deodorant but it also is there's an ethos that stands behind this brand which is the ethos that you stand for and it's the ethos that you stand for and the ethos that you stand for and the one that I stand for if I say ethos again I'm GNA start stumbling over my words but it's it's it's like you said it it doesn't the winners in life aren't just you you're on a big stage in life you're you're you're crushing it in every aspect financially you're a star you're leading your sport that's awesome on every [ __ ] level it's it's an encouragement to to young men all around the world to [ __ ] get up off their ass and get sh it don't matter if you score high on a test you whatever the [ __ ] it is that you do well maybe not so it matters what the [ __ ] you do but it also doesn't matter what the [ __ ] you do anybody is a winner as long as you put in the work and you have the will to win and I love it I I would say that's wrong I would say that not anybody is a winner and I think that's something that the brand also stands for like you really got to win you got to as you have the will to win no I'm just saying I think that's an important point cuz we live in a world today where a lot of people think everybody can be a winner that's not true if you Los you might be a loser and if you're a loser the good news is there's a hidden l in the logo actually we'll trace it for you with our graphic design team there's a hidden l in the logo because and I I I wanted to make sure that was was a thing because the biggest loss of my life turned out to be the biggest W in my life and I always had the saying like two L's make a w and when I lost to Tommy Fury it was embarrassing all these things but I realized I wasn't focused I wasn't as locked in as I could be the team around me from a boxing standpoint wasn't good I was having personal issues with relationships and all of these things that I had to shed and grow from and I grew into this new and completely different person but I wouldn't have done that if I didn't lose on the biggest stage possible and I think that was part of the ethos ethos ethos ethos of the brand was to encourage people that in their lowest moments to turn those into into their biggest W's eventually when Jake just said that the biggest loss of his life ended up being the biggest W of his life you said same yeah yeah same what what was that story for supposedly lost for lost to Cheeto back in 2020 August it it was I mean it sucked at the time but I it didn't suck too bad because I was like okay I didn't lose because I you know and it was different I wasn't I mean I was focused everything went good training camp everything was good but I was like that sucks I'm goingon to get that back someday when the time is right and then my last fight two two months ago in Miami headline I'm the champ defending my belt against that same guy how rewarding was that three and a half years later August three and a half years later boom beat his ass as a fan of yours it made it so sweet because of all the doubters that constantly like put you down and didn't believe in you and said he was going to destroy you and then you he literally like you embarrass him that was a performance of a life you embarrassed the [ __ ] out of him and I think that's literally a prime example of turning l l into into a w and I really that's what that's where the hidden l in the brand in the logo is um and representing that every single day when you see these products in your bathroom and when we say we have a saying it's not just a product it's a lifestyle absolutely trademarked Incorporated All Rights Reserved 2024 brother uh but but yeah man it's it's an honor to have you a part of this and uh we we really made what we think are the best products on the market from the body wash being exfoliating vitamin infused to the body spray what we found out is a lot of these fragrances like you get like these high-end designer brands that have like $500 colognes turns out it only cost them a dollar to make that and they're literally making like $499 on top of that so we had a fine fragrance house is what these places are called and we got the super expensive scents and gave it to people to what they're worth like we're not trying to these products are super super affordable and I think it's so funny because that's the world we live in where like you just label something and get like a European girl to go this is one of the lower priced men's care products on the market yeah if I'm not mistaken and it's it's the $500 fragrance in the affordable bottle because we want everyone we've been using a body wash in the past two days since we got the samples after the shoot and I personally want to say I got the in there you could bleep it out whatever you want to do W's winning n b genuinely that's that's the saying is the it's winning formula cuz it really is like it really is if if we're going to call our company [ __ ] W it has to be the best we the winners winning product indeed indeed winning customers all that type of [ __ ] indeed better Derek today he's just got a punch I'm not Li I talked to him before he left he wants to punch you up bro he's got a punchable face I like him though it's weird it's like God I like that guy but I want [ __ ] KO pick him up and like it's okay boom one more to the liing me earlier and I'm just letting you know don't shoot the messenger on God he said he wants to get in the ring with you I can call him really he oh yeah he he you want to call him yeah where is he at is wait uh no call no call he's coming up oh um he's talking smack he said he actually wants a spar I swear to God he said he wants to get percentage should I go you guys I literally out let that's crazy timeing saying talk [ __ ] to my face if you're going to talk [ __ ] that's crazy timing what were you saying they were telling me you want to get in the ring and Spar bit or they didn't say Spar they said fight yeah I'm down to do either but uh yeah no I'm just sick of the [ __ ] [ __ ] you've been saying on your podcast uh you called me you made fun of my weight and you called me gay I did not no I well okay okay you said that he wouldn't ever say that what you got to say what your chest that's what I just [ __ ] said bro I he was like oh if I if stand on it you talking to him you talking to him you ain't talking to me my assistant Sono would would piece you he's never boxed a day he never I'm here to fight your video I'm here to fight you what did I what was the first thing I said to you when when I saw you what was the first thing I said to you that we could fight no I said you look thick wait but when we were talking earlier weren't you saying he's a [ __ ] and you wanted to get a ring with him and all type [ __ ] what I'm saying right now say it then I just said the [ __ ] ring so we can after this we have a ring 2 feet away and he's a [ __ ] and whatever else you was saying to me yeah he's [ __ ] what about my hair say something about my hair I I already said that at the W shoot that you look like you haven't showered in [ __ ] a week okay all right d hey buddy hey hey what's your long-term play not no but see you guys you guys are making me seem crazy you're out of your mind he Derek Dereck go warm up hit the hit the heavy back H the warm up is almost listen legendary as send location dble PIV go warm up hey hey double pivot sit sit I'm not [ __ ] no I I'll sit and talk but I'm not [ __ ] no sit on the floor walk you want to take my seat hey how much how much of what's going on ch ch how much of what's going on is is a character versus like actual delusion how much is a character yeah decent uh I would say there are times where I know what I have to do for my boxing career to like like we all why is he laughing cuz you said career I beat your [ __ ] boy your [ __ ] [ __ ] bro you know what I I recall you did beat I recall calling steiny saying what the [ __ ] was that buddy I love steiny but I do remember watching that and thinking I wasn't proud of that I was not proud of that from steiny and I wish I wish he would come to the gym I wish he'd get in there I wish he'd train a little bit and I wish he would have a rematch but that's on him I've been trying to get the rematch but he's been ding me do you think Derek won he said I won I thought I thought he won I'd have to rewatch but I do think I come on baby the comments have [ __ ] dragged me for months after that [ __ ] 99% of the comments say I lost so please say it one more time Sean no I said it what I said it's like therapy or something no but to answer your question uh we all know uh uh as Fighters there's a side of promotion stop [ __ ] first of all Gus shut the [ __ ] up our our audio guys uh like can't stop laughing is that the facial his facial hair or is what he's saying bro that's bold of you to talk facial hair bro that's bold of you to I'm not Li you look dirty you look like Jeffrey done training right Jesus I train every day but anyway we know like there's two sides of of promotion as well as the actual athletic competition that is Combat Sports so there are times where I might play up a little bit like hey promoting but let him go let him go all right if you if all if you think I'm all promoting that I'll see you in the [ __ ] ring and I'll knock both you either of you out well um well Jake's a [ __ ] fat [ __ ] right now he weighs like 240 so I got I goty I gotta pick my words wisely like he's Jake's 240 I I know I know but like I'm not going to sit here and pick a fight against somebody that's 240 when I'm se's my weight class when I stopped you in one round like just like but when I was getting started out of come this is where I'm at since then I told him he could have somebody tag team I'm down I'm down to fight anybody in this [ __ ] room not one person in this room I'm the best part about this is like uh right after this we I think you're you're down to do like one round or three minutes right I mean I'd prefer 12 but we okay yeah 12 I mean that my biggest advantage in the ring ring is my cardio I do 12 12 okay so no I have a genuine question so five round I'm not I'm not one have I ever said I'm a UFC fighter no I'm just say we can box I'm just saying that's I'm used to five you want to do three we could do that aren't you trying to be a boxer with your [ __ ] Ryan Garcia call he would knock knock your [ __ ] ass out so quickly it wouldn't be close I'm one and0 pro boxing what are you actually I saw that video I saw video I'm also want to know thank you officially hey they count that's real commiss but uh I didn't mean I didn't mean to take I didn't mean to take over the pot I just wanted to a couple you definitely didn't yeah okay I try I'm trying to help you no we love you go warm up yeah yeah go warm up the bags don't warm up too much though don't get tired how much do you wa right now without Timberlands and jean shorts on high 120 low 13 no without lying though okay that [ __ ] is you think you got you got him one round I think I could beat him I think I can beat him I I think I could handicap myself to three just put on one glove I could do that what do you think actually happens now when you go downstairs and he gets in that ring like what's his plan that's what I don't get about him but that's why it's that's do me a favor that's why he's Cloud it up because love [ __ ] up [ __ ] he's going he's going to try to Yap he's going to try to talk please just go 100% yeah no actually actually please go 100% if he signs a consent form we'll have him no we've already got like multiple consent forms for better media with like death wavers [ __ ] no no no but he needs it he needs that I'll go like 40 no go like 75 Sean I'm I'm going to be honest bro don't even go 20% he's the nice [ __ ] bro don't do that bro you want him to go 100% no no to be honest but just like work with him and then just like maybe just just like a really good punching and then he'll give up 75% uh I'm nervous man I'm shaking for Derek yeah yeah that's good I understand that there a couple flinches if you Flinch hard enough the the wind coming off you will put him down let him walk you down and bait him boom sleeping what's your next upcoming fight a maraba jaaba and when is that uh not nothing yet I'm hoping for September maybe October maybe November maybe December I'm F ready to go baby what if it was next month I wouldn't be ready to go I like I like 10 to 12 weeks 10 to 12 he likes eight I mean I I normally do like 10 yeah just like but I've been super the first few weeks are [ __ ] pre-amps this Camp I'm channeling my Ryan Garcia would you ever do a Ryan Garcia regiment during Camp drink and smoke every night you do a little I I probably yeah I'm not actually doing that for the people out there he's locked in clocked in locked in locked in ready to go yeah May 20th we start but by the time the people see this it'll be uh June or something like that that is crazy you're fighting Mike that you fought Ben asran wrestler good good [ __ ] UFC was really good UF bit Tyron Woodley twice Anderson Silva knockout of the year with Nate Robinson can't forget about deji deji the the the goat do we say Gibb or is that like that's just crazy resume like literally [ __ ] C by way thank you Gib cuz we had a really good party after he knocked you the [ __ ] out who W we're skipping two professional boxers this always no no the recent ones this always happens I'm trying to just think cuz two cuz this is what everybody asked for this is what everybody asked for who who are the two professional boxers you fighted you got to name them Andre August and Ryan Borland go okay people don't people are like fight a pro boxer and then I do and then they're like that was boring as a man of combat he what were 10 and one nine and one nine and one what is your take on his [ __ ] all of his fights and who he's fighting in the competition dude I've been excited as [ __ ] since I started I remember you I remember the first time I watched was the Nate Robinson I watched that one at home and then uh I don't remember what it was after that but I remember watching Ben Asam in Atlanta I think that was the first time we actually met was right after the fight I think we hugged I was like y I picked you up you carried me back to the locker room that it was love at first sight that was crazy actually yeah actually I [ __ ] with him we became best friends like a couple days later you going to leave me hanging no no I would it's my eyebrow but uh yeah no I think he's obviously super skilled I think it's and I I it's inspired me even in the position I'm at UFC World Champ sexy you know what I mean like tall dark handsome TR inspired me just business the business uh side of things that you've done I've always thought putting on massive fight that's why I'm such a huge Conor fan cuz the pay-per-views he's done is so [ __ ] he's been fighting for four years and [ __ ] that he's been doing the massive fights the fights I get excited for there's a few UFC fights the high the big big fights that I get excited for but every time you fought even when uh Logan fought Floyd I was [ __ ] like excited like all fight week so i' I've been inspired from what you've done from a business side from the boxing side they even just start so not late but for a boxer but these boxers start when they're [ __ ] three four years old like Ryan and tank like they're young buck the Tik Tac I sent you of Devon Haney's debut fight yeah it's wild he was fighting a five foot Mexican in a in a bar was it Dante bro if I show you this [ __ ] oh no I did see that I did see that I did see that when you started even seeing that first video fighting Anderson Silva six fights in bro like do you know how insane that is he's one of the greatest correct me if I'm wrong UFC Strikers in history yeah 100% so does that make me one of the greatest UFC Strikers and one of the greatest wrestlers cuz wood but Ben ask was but Nate Diaz is ducking me in MMA oh am crazy I am weak that's a sick fight MMA I I wish it was that would happened right after the boxing same he's actually ducking it which is why it's crazy because he's not he's not in UFC no but we we upped it to 15 million damn that's crazy though that would be a I like Nate Diaz but that would be such a fun buildup he actually doesn't want to do it all Sean how do you genuinely Jake's not here it's me and you in a room actually how do you see that fight going for Jake what MMA him you're not here J for Nate in MMA keep it a bean God it's it's so hard to you're a big [ __ ] right now on what weight would it be5 185 I don't hate I don't I it's not a it's a winable fight for you I really do think that but Nate is so [ __ ] you would have to do what I did against aljo and morab do not let that [ __ ] grab you not that you can't wrestle cuz I know you can wrestle but once he starts grabbing you and doing Jiu-Jitsu if he gets on top his little he likes his little trips it would be hard for you to win I feel like if he if he started grappling just pure Jiu-Jitsu if it let's be real if it goes to the floor is he [ __ ] if he's on his back Nate's not like a super strong guy so if you learn how to like I mean I'm sure you know how to get up to a single legegg stuff like that but then you start getting your neck grabbed I don't know how much Jiu-Jitsu you know I mean Nate's a [ __ ] high Lev black belt um if you could keep it standing 100% there's winnable ways there if he if he went to the ground feel like he might be able to grab your neck no that that's exactly how I feel about it if I don't get guillotined yeah then I win the fight because even if he was on top take your back but even if he was on top of me I would just throw him off of me cuz he's also the weakest puncher I've ever fought like when he was hitting me I was I almost like started laughing I'm I'm not even saying this to talk [ __ ] out of everyone I've sparred in my whole entire life and everyone I fought his punches are even me we I don't think you ever landed a punch on me is that true well that's not true so I don't anyone no I'm literally not even talking [ __ ] which is why I think it's funny that he dropped Connor and [ __ ] cuz it's just like how Conor with like to the ground yeah like with a straight left hand yeah which is crazy like I I'm not just talking [ __ ] when I say that and I've told you I've literally told you this you told me this after the fight yeah I was like he is the weakest puncher I've ever fought in my life who's who's the weakest puncher you've ever you've ever come to face um there I mean there's been so many fights where I later didn't even get hit um uh does that like make you jaded at all when you get into a fight and you don't really get love that [ __ ] I prefer not to get hit at all but like if I was you and I wasn't get hit at all I'd probably work less no no no no I I know I don't get hit because I work that hard so if I didn't work hard I know I'd probably get hit I'm just a lazy [ __ ] so so here you are on top of the world we're launching [ __ ] W going to be a billion dollar business [ __ ] you I always forget uh UFC champ accomplishing all your goals what do you want next uh what are what is the threeyear fiveyear for Sean I I truly do want to get a boxing fight I'm not I'm not super set on that to where like I'm like going to be [ __ ] if it doesn't happen I do think it'll be interesting especially if I go out there knock morab out Ryan does his thing I think there's a [ __ ] sweet fight there if it doesn't happen not that worried about it want to go out there beat morab I'd like to you know if Max Max and Elia fight I would like to fight go move up to 45 fight the winner of that um you know maybe have three to five maybe have a few more kids definitely want another little baby I love kids my fite pump him out shout out to Danny who's your top pick in a boxing fight though if you if you could choose your Ryan now was like the I mean what he after dvon Beat Ryan I was like javante then Ryan goes out there does his thing really though I think Dante do you is that is that not a big [ __ ] leap Ryan like you said before he's been doing this his whole life one thing that's been proven is that the crossover it's it's not a good return Fury he did his thing okay the excep is the exception we've seen it with okay but then Anthony Joshua put his ass t was crazy super night night he was I'm I'm here for big fights like I wanted to get into the UFC and I wanted to make big fights watching Conor versus Floyd I'm like that [ __ ] happened really happened hey you versus Derek that could be as big as Connor in Floyd but no but I I think the craziest [ __ ] about Conor versus Floyd is that overall it was a W for everyone involved so there's certain fights where it just like doesn't matter what happens that's the world we live in yeah I mean UFC told me they said if the if the fight's big enough and it'll make the UFC money they'll do it what means more to you your your your record being pre or the amount of money you're making all right let me ask you something it's about to get real J's drunk Jasper's drunk as [ __ ] y record or money [ __ ] it depends the Gap like like the gap of money if it's like an extra 10 15 20 million but I lose a couple important fights probably not you just take like 150 million I'll be like like [ __ ] my record baby yeah it depends on the gap of money Jake Paul is not here right now just like a Mayweather Conor McGregor you taking that fight ver Jake yeah no he's my buddy I could I mean I don't I don't even no I no funny no there's you know what's funny is always in my Snapchat story once once a day pretty much someone says we knock out Jake Paul like there's every sing all the time for so long people just want to see me get [ __ ] is good though that's like the thing yeah but I'm sensitive it is funny though people [ __ ] love to hate confidence the craziest thing though actually about both of you like I met you very recently like I didn't realize you're as like normal as you are I don't know why I thought you violent like you guys are both like very goofy mellow and stupid and c and and awesome it's like the greatest thing ever like I couldn't believe when I met you you're like one of us like yeah I wouldn't think you're a [ __ ] yeah one of the coolest people in the world for sure yeah but not a lot of people uh can like I don't know we have like a weird it's hard toes Meat Heads I'm like this the this my dog I think it's a little bit of dark humor too it's like some [ __ ] up [ __ ] that we say off camera [ __ ] sometimes but I think it's like there's a certain yeah like that's how my whole group is back home it's like we all just we're all just kind of [ __ ] dumb I'm smart but like they're dumb well someone commented like yo Jake Paul's the dumbest genius in the world and I was just like I say that [ __ ] all the time you wed up the other day and I was like this is the most genius dumbass in the world no jokes Hey Brother chill buddy trying to get me cancelled no what how old are you 23 are you really yeah no you're not he's not is he what do you think think what did you think Oh no you're 267 27 what did you think he was I thought he was older I thought he was like 27 26 yeah a niggaer mature was that ladies you got a boo you got a girl you just be slanging she timeout right now I don't really talk about she don't time out it's a little tricky she not taking care of herself what do you guys think about Tom Brady R you watch it yeah they kept comp panning to you every 5 Seconds bro I swear there's a huge camer sitting there the whole time but it's cool to see Netflix going hard like that cuz they went hard they swing that meat around huha yeah let's pivot yeah just sorry about him I'm drunk man not yeah but but it was it was great it wasar they should have got rid of most of the football players going up there yeah there's a couple ones Ben afflac is that who that was on there that was wild that was so weird that was so weird it was cool to see how [ __ ] less sensitive people are becoming I feel like feel like it's recently like there's a big push back I think people got sick of it we went super super super PC for a long time people were like wait a second we like being able to say what we want to say I saw kill Tony say oh type of crazy [ __ ] on there that watch every [ __ ] Monday you were on kill Tony yeah how old are you actually buddy I'm a comedian Budd full time no yeah I was on that I was nervous as hell though I was like just being it's a live I do podcast once a week like me and Tim do our podcast every [ __ ] week but to be there in front of an audience live it's weird it's a different kind of well so you say Tim but let's let's talk about actually the fact that you get trained by by one of the greatest boxers of all time it's really that's something what's happened like that's crazy working with Canelo as your as your coach that's what I'm saying people don't going to be Ryan but like yeah that is true I never even thought about that for did you even know that this guy proba even know that that orange [ __ ] is nice wait will I get cancelled by the ginger community no you're black oh no my dad my dad's Ginger and I'm I'm like this [ __ ] is ginger bro he be shaving he be shaving his beard and I zoom in zoom in it's it's slightly orange so I'm a quarter ginger on South Park they made fun of Gingers and that [ __ ] made the news I [ __ ] with the ginger people but like y'all [ __ ] you like redhead girls oh yeah was Super Soaker but anyway yeah like y'all [ __ ] is orange and that's okay but back to you one of y'all that's not drunk I got a question cuz this guy clipped out a lot did Tim actually like you guys about him like saying to fight that was yeah that was real Tim always be talking [ __ ] to the like he's been doing that for so long so what happened he just talk I mean he just he Alo the knee's coming Alo you got to shoot Alo watch out for this like he's been saying that since I've been in the UFC like my debut vers terion where he was talking [ __ ] to terion too and uh he just does it every fight but this happened to just be crazy timing to like Tim you got Tim like alre you got to go and like literally he he like that's when he threw that left hand or whatever stepped into Southpaw and uh or stepped into Orthodox and got dropped it was it was funny the timing because he's like Al you got to go I don't I truly don't think that's why that's not why Alo went I bet you could I bet Alo didn't even hear that but Tim's always chirping and stuff but people on the internet are [ __ ] mad about that a lot of them actually like it I'll say majority of people are thinking that's the funniest [ __ ] ever there's a couple [ __ ] that are like you should be banned think it's a fight would you run the alra fight back or one and done never I like that why would I yeah am I supposed to top that you know what I'm saying I got love for Alo we had him on the show and he he seems like a good dude I actually don't mind Alo I does that ever happen where like you'll have a personal relationship with someone personal runin with them and it's all great but then now all of a sudden you have to fight each other I've never had I've not of running with someone that's been like uh more than like I've ran into aljo morab at the UFC I'm like hey what's up talk to him a little bit you know nothing no ill will um but I haven't had like a run with someone I actually lik them mhm and then at the fight them so you're not friends with any any other UFC fighters oh I have a there's there's a couple guys in my in my weight class that I train with at the lab that are like climbing the r uh ladders what happened with uh the 125 pounder I I don't even know his name and I'm not I'm just not like yeah what's his name I Alexander pania bro this story is actually kind of funny so 2016 I think it was it was like 3 and0 4 and0 and I was still fighting at like I fought at 125 not too long before that I fought at like 130 which is in a weight class was like so I wasn't like a 155 like I am now I was probably like 14 back then and uh Henry cejudo comes in I'm three or four and0 at the point at this point it comes in with this kid Alexander PTO just won The Ultimate Fighter I think he's got his UFC debut or it's his second UFC fight he's a couple weeks out from his fight I'm [ __ ] the night before me and Tim ripping bongs like hanging out being goofballs and [ __ ] so the next morning so we brought him in for sparring hry sudo brings in Alexander you're 4-0 he's King [ __ ] he he's just won The Ultimate Fighter and so they write the names on on the board who who you're sparring I'm like oh [ __ ] I got Alexander Pantoja versus me for one round one round he has three rounds so you write one one name then usually you you spar with one guy then they go out you spar with a fresh guy they go out spar with the fresh guy that's usually how it works so my name was just up there for one round that's it we Spar one round I didn't know anything about him cuz I I didn't really watch it like that 25 I don't really watch 25ers like that but somebody's like oh [ __ ] that's he a black belt he just won The Ultimate Fighter I was like oh [ __ ] I got to [ __ ] Focus up here first round boom Dro him with a liver kick and I wasn't going to post I record all my rounds I have so many sparring rounds like I wasn't going to post it was and for some reason I don't know why he would talk [ __ ] and bring it up cuz I literally I don't know you know know I don't know if you know how it works but you finish a guy the fight's over right no no did he um so I finished him the first round he hit him boom with the liver I posted the video yesterday and I've had it for a long time I didn't want to post it CU you don't post sparring like that but he just kept bringing it up so boom finished him first round um then uh after the first round round I go to walk out and Henry's over there crying box of Kleenex just like [ __ ] wiping his tears crying we want you for a second round so mad that this little like I was nobody just finished his dude he's in the UFC he's supposed to be the man finish him in the first round so Henry's crying saying he wants another round um so I piece him up again in the second round and I'm I'm dying at this point my lungs are burning I'm not in shape for fight I I'm nowhere near in Camp for a fight and I my lungs are hurting and uh Henry again crying blowing his nose and like I want you for a third and Benson comes in Benson Henderson absolute Legend comes in and was yelling cuz that's his it was the his gym the MMA lab we don't let people come in our gym and make us tired and blah blah blah and I'm [ __ ] just just huffing and puffing I just got done work in this dude for 10 minutes finished him in the first round did I say that liver kick um we'll put the footage I have the foot yeah it's right there insert the footage so third round come out boom piece him up again and he's so I don't know why he keeps bringing up this bringing this up in the media I think it's because people ask him but I don't know why he doesn't just say yeah yeah no no I don't want to talk about it he keeps saying like he's like oh I got in I found his range and [ __ ] I'm like bro you you stopped him in one round stopped him in round one and let him live and continue to fight for round two these delusional uh like wild people are weirdos but the reason I posted cuz he kept bringing it up exactly wait so is he the champ now at 125 yeah okay but why does he still want to talk [ __ ] to you if you got [ __ ] up that's what I'm saying I don't know either either you drop to 125 and get that no I can't drop to 125 that's too much now you're a thick [ __ ] I am a thick but yeah I SP I think it's important for up and cominging Spar uh fighters to record their rounds and watch their rounds not for that this reason you know but just to I've improve so much watching my sparring y I have thousands of rounds maybe not thousands hundreds of rounds from 10 years ago on my on my computer of uh it's like NFL team is watching footage the time [ __ ] 100% got to watch that [ __ ] that's I I have every single round recorded and and again I I don't post sparring either exactly you know put in a highlight video make a vlog boom we're sparring people but it's never like [ __ ] up your guy yeah exactly but Mike Perry honestly like what he's been doing is pretty Fu he went to Bare knuckle that [ __ ] just meant for him bare knuckle fighting it's crazy different going crazy he's doing good he's [ __ ] undefeated over there he's beating some really good guys stay over here [ __ ] [ __ ] only place that you should be getting tickets from is game time.co it's it's the only place I go it is the only place you can possibly go they have 110% price match guarantee that's what we use to get our tickets for the NBA Finals you can get $20 off your first order go to gametime.co JJ a $20 off your first order they're doing a deal specifically for y'all and you could see where your tickets are before you buy them seeing the seats they have all of the these great policies last 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platform there is Mike Paul versus Jake Tyson here's my official prediction tell us and even if even if it's against me like it's not it's not I do think you're going to beat Mike Tyson uh it's crazy that I even saying that out loud right now cuz you're fighting Mike Tyson it's [ __ ] crazy even just when we were walking down the the street today people all genders all ages knew you were fighting Mike Tyson it's such a massive fights live on Netflix which is [ __ ] crazy it's in a stadium which is [ __ ] crazy it is crazy I believe in you I see what you I see what you're doing I see you know that you believe in yourself Mike Tyson is uh hasn't fought in however long it's been so for him to just come up and get a fight be I I'm sure is going to be in as good a shape as he possibly could be in but it's just you know it's it's it's it's not his time right now I love Mike Tyson I never actually met him but I love Mike Tyson I do think Jake's gonna get the job done and I do think eight rounds eight two-minute rounds eight two-minute rounds I believe I believe you could put them away in the later rounds you know five six seven eight I do think you could put it put him down which is crazy to even [ __ ] think you rap yeah that's fire I'm just lazy and inconsistent that's not a w no that sh it is not you start using Brandon yell at him every day but cuz you can actually spit that's fire no but but people know him now from like podcasting they don't know he's a rapper and hurts his soul J sick name Lil jizz what J JZ that's good that's good you should switch your [ __ ] I switch my [ __ ] from come Master to kill Jas bro honestly though that's I think singing rapping spitting is one of the things that if I could switch talents be doing something like that that's good or twerking I ain't going to lie you shook that [ __ ] earlier I got a I got a thing on me you that [ __ ] wiggle a little bit let's let's pivot though cuz yep hit a pivot uh yeah do we have a speaker should we play Jasper's new song or something you got a new one I thought you were lazy some new [ __ ] go ahead play on your phone just put it in the speaker put it in the mic too this the [ __ ] I'm dropping when I'm Indie that sound decent I'm not rapping either I'm yapping that's not going to get you drunk yo I made this beat that's crazy I like the way you look I won't lie you got something I need you my with a fly girl like you doing with no guy a little sh don't really go outside I'm not crazy right place and right time you all smiles and pretty light brown [Music] [Music] like that better if I forget you but I just can't time saying do better and I'm sure you can find that guy that's worth all right cut it cut it cut it that's that's enough that's enough that's enough that's enough for real can't give the whole thing it's not out yet yeah hey good [ __ ] that's fire I'll be rapping though but that's some pop [ __ ] just cuz I can do it so why are you consistent cuz I'm lazy and jaded and and spoiled yeah it's unfortunate maam shout out to the homies for a lot of talented people out there that just are yeah don't smoke crack yo also there there is a parallel there don't do don't do that there's a parallel with the same thing he's talking about I think Fighters probably where it's like you could have all the talent in the world he's got that's why I get so [ __ ] mad at him it's cuz he has all the talent in the world really I get more pissed off than he gets and he could be a superstar but he just is lazy he doesn't put the work in he's not he's not strategic and it is hard when you got when you live in a crib in Puerto Rico right you got chefs and [ __ ] and you fly private with me yeah that's it that's it bro that's it you got to you got get paychecks and [ __ ] y'all got to evict me that's not a bad idea honestly I think we talked about it let's make I was I'm H we had a conversation but I just can't I can't because I love you so much I need you but then I'll probably be more like need you y yeah I guarante and then we you would still have to like fly in once a week to to do the pods and it would be resentment and then I I'll go out like and I'll try to start shooting at y'all oh my God I guarantee I would be in the position I'm in if I if I had money and like had already made it like financially had [ __ ] I wouldn't have made it that's why people think I'm crazy but CC the other side of it is like boom right so I'm from com California same hey shout out my [ __ ] yeah man I was homeless for the first half of my life mom's a drug addict dad's a gang member I've never had anything in my life right and my whole life has been music I dropped out in ninth grade I was like I'm going to make music my dad kicks me out he's like you can't live under this roof like be more like your brothers my brothers are [ __ ] star students one got a full ride scholarship loser all all type of [ __ ] nerd ass [ __ ] all those [ __ ] are fat and unemploy now one dropped out of school a full rise scholarship and is just sitting at home right so boom from having nothing to like me saying I'm going to risk everything that I have in my life to become a music artist and it works I get to a certain place and I'm like damn I did exactly I hit a ceiling right so it's like now I had to recalibrate he got a big record deal and then and then like use I crashed out and became a m addict for four four days a week for 30 like 90 days oh it's not bad but then I moved cuz my homeboy was like you need to move and I was like nah [ __ ] that I made a million I ain't going to move I'm going to maintain this lifestyle I'm a junkie but I'm rich yep I crashed out and was like yeah I need to move lost 60 lbs went to Puerto Rico locked in recalibrated and now I'm ready to be but that's that's here's the problem we run into now is that you've recalibrated and now it's still it's been 6 months the album's supposed to be 6 months ago and we're still waiting for the album that's the problem and that's what you got to work on never too late though let's start it let's get because you're vitamin deficient right yeah yeah cuz like a lot of people can't think straight when they're vitamin deficient and all that a week ago kind of elaborated on that so yeah this isn't therapy um I got shout out Suzie right right huh Susie but she's hot is she not you think my therapist you guys got the same one I could pee and vape on this podcast I got to go pee go pee I could pee yeah I mean I think we I think we end the episode because uh let's wrap it up you can get W available at Walmart anyway if you walk into Walmart whether you with your mom your daddy you by yourself you go in that [ __ ] men body care aisle you buy that and comment down below what you thought of the episode for um us being brain fried over and uh jper but Buzz also comment cuz this coming out when the product releases comment your favorite scent and sent $10,000 right no I'm send you 1,000 I ain't got 10,000 for you but I'll send you 1,000 I'll send someone 10,000 he'll send you 10,000 I'll send you a th000 and I'm going through the comments for sure anyway good luck Charlie and if you got a test soon good luck on that [ __ ] that's what we [Music] do what are those 8 O gloves I want you to know they were talking up there he ain't going easy so be ready all right legit be ready buddy I'm using these bags don't show Too Much don't show we're boxing we're boxing I don't I do that on accident sometimes just know that that might come up just keep your hands up I'm just saying I might throw that up I haven't knocked someone out in a while just cuz my last fight didn't go off it went off five rounds I've been like craving just putting someone's lights out lately it's weird versus your boy better Derek I I hope Sean isn't nice and just [ __ ] him up that's your that's your trainee [ __ ] D all righty folks welcome to your main event of the evening starting out first in the loser corner you have better day with a record of no wins no losses I beat ste's [ __ ] out no anything he is 5'7 120 lbs lost in the mile to better JoJo but he's still delusional in his fighting career and to my left in the winning Corner sponsored by W sugar sha Ali The Undefeated UFC champion of the world it's time to fight bring it to the center we already spoke about the rules in the locker room beforehand give me your glove give me your hand touch gloves I want a clean fair fight no no hits below the waist back to your Corners time you ready judge you ready and fight [Music] [Applause] I'm out of balance or something oh do Dodge that [ __ ] hold on hold on hold on hold [ __ ] come on come on just oh my God one back of the head no no no back of the head four ref didn't see it five six me in the eyes Walk This Way Walk This Way for me he's running Walk This Way for me my car run all right and we're in in that right that's called all right time time time one two that was a that was a slip four 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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXPZ1KzdpsY	4,103	mXPZ1KzdpsY	2024-06-20 00:00:00	well well well ladies and gentlemen do we have a special episode for you today none other than sugar Shan om Ali the current UFC bantamweight champion a legend in his own right this episode was off the cusp we were a little turned up Jasper was really really drunk so we weren't really prepared for this at all the conversations definitely got wild and obviously as you guys have seen over maybe the past week or so we launched a new company called w am men's carine in Walmart this company is so near and dear to my heart and I partnered with Shawn to bring this Vision to life amongst other celebrities artists and athletes that we are announcing over the next couple of weeks here get your w at Walmart it is very very very very very good stuff and yes you heard the news I am fighting Mike Perry on July 20th it is going down I'm still fighting Mike Tyson November 15th that is happening but I'm staying active knocking out Mike Perry on July 20th and I'm excited for y'all to listen to this episode and he the vision of w how it all came together and how Shawn got involved and then everything to do with Shawn's career this podcast has been a long time coming but prepare yourself for some idiocracy per usual uh this is [ __ ] with Jake Paul we have a secret handshake check it out AC let me get that stop playing mean yeah we created that because we actually have so many things to get into here this has been a long time coming Jasper did bring up something and the reason W was created was because the other products in the category had harmful dyes parabens sulfates hormone disruptors and so we wanted to create the better for you vitamin infused product and and Sean's a co-owner just signed today yesterday for the show but we we'll get into all of that we we've been you know bringing sea on for like we've been talking for like a month and a half yes sir yes sir um it is currently May we've been doing a lot of shoots this podcast will probably come out at post W launch you can get I'm so drunk I'm sorry y'all you can get it in uh Walmart every Walmart you in Paca Walmart get it in you in Pensacola it's in Walmart in Kentucky Walmart Walmart so basically uh we we brought in the greatest people in the world to help build W and Sean is one of those people but dialing everything back we will get into the company the body washes how this all came about but uh we've been wanting to do this podcast and thanks for joining us BR hey guys hey thanks for joining us right did you uh yeah I did you sh for an hour bro did you did you do do we know do we set the stage of the day and the fact that Jasper's slash right now okay cool y drunk is a [ __ ] y like double drunk yep yep yep you drunk yeah all that so um but just winding everything back uh I think we've been friends for a long time in fact you were the first guest on this show oh [ __ ] crazy Zoom crazy that's right that's right that's right the first ever episode you zoomed in and that's crazy we're thankful we're thankful for our friendship and it's pretty cool that now we're here again today uh getting less views than before and that's fire that's it congratulations less views we're not we're not it was it was a joke it was a joke if you watching this please like and comment cuz we falling off right now but man by the time this comes out you're going to be getting ready for me RAB how do you say his name I don't remember morab is iTab or or I don't know me that's got to be it me but you got to say it with the emphasis look meab mirab meab meab there you go there you go so yeah I should be getting ready hopefully I ain't got nothing scheduled hopefully uh you know Uncle Dana will call me say hey buddy you want to fight in in here and there and there and then I'm d b boom and that that's how that works what's up with everybody on your body though everybody talking [ __ ] even people youat I wanted to bring up yeah and he's like saying like he's trying to post about you even yesterday it is weird but when you concuss someone you know what I just say they don't think as well as they used to so I think he's still concussed and he's a little confused because he's talking [ __ ] still he not in his right mind because I can just throw up another post go because it's a throwback Thursday it's a throwback Friday do you think do you think people don't respect you enough cuz I I see that as your friend an unbiased like they just see social media and podcasts and the the hair and stuff like that and then they just sh week but I [ __ ] with you I appr that um I don't think it is well you can't you know I think it's fine I think you're jealous I ain't going to lie I got some inches under here let's smell that hair you can smell my [ __ ] must who I do think I feel a little bit disrespected as the champ but I think that last fight against Che kind of you know shut a little bit of people up canny go five rounds Cheeto beat me before the Alo fight um shut a lot of people up canny grapple didn't have to Grapple cuz he couldn't take me down yeah Alo couldn't take you down I think that was the biggest thing where they were like yo that's his weakness like yeah wrestle him down and then he just proved everyone wrong that's what's so interesting about this morab fight is he's supposedly well he is he's [ __ ] good at wrestling he's really really good at wrestling he's boring as [ __ ] and no one will there won't be one comment saying yeah right he's actually kind of fun not one person I'm com won I'm com you can I ask you something would you put yourself in your own top five Strikers in the UFC oh I'm yeah yo easily who's your Mount Rushmore strikker well I I mean I would unbiasedly I would put him as number one because adna is in like top three but he also like got beat by put that [ __ ] down boy he did uh bro I'm up there I'm up there Max is really good Max super his striking that's a good top five there that's four me Max Elia adaga uh I'm sure I'm missing some your with a one would it be that's that's a minus one Mount rmore is four yeah but I only got four but if you throw the five in it's a plus one isn't there only four yeah but but you ready to throw the five up I'm four all right that's my more but yeah once again uh this is a [ __ ] ass podcast so we apologize hey but something something you just touched on you talked about Fighters being fun and interesting how much and you're you're a superstar how much of you being a superstar how much of any fighter being a superstar comes down to them being fun and interesting as you are and how much of it comes down to their actual fighting good question uh well who's a super who who obviously Connor comes to mind I think he's he's a character he's fun he's interesting who else comes to mind is like a superstar I would say Izzy gives that off I think he's an interesting guy other than that there's not like a ton of fun like Ryan Garcia is doing a really good job right now of being [ __ ] interesting being a character uh I think that's fentel I think it's drugs as well I wouldn't deny that but he's still making people interested in Ryan versus Devon Haney was an interesting fight not because Devon Haney that dude's boring as [ __ ] you think he did them roids no I don't think Ryan did I think Devon needs to take that L he being a [ __ ] about I think the craziest [ __ ] you said to me and like I don't even know if we want to put this in there or bring it up but we we can always remove it but uh because of your your situation with the ostarine and you said to me like and it I like fully felt your energy you're like I swear on my daughter's life I never did that and you got popped for it yeah same thing happened uh to Ryan right now he popped for aost the low super low level a some [ __ ] like a trillionth of a gr the same thing happened to me uh so when that came out with Ryan like I truly truly didn't believe he took anything because it was the same [ __ ] and it happens to a lot of [ __ ] ostarine happens to how does that happen it's called the tainted supplement so if you're taking anything that has protein in it that's not third party tested uh could not just protein any kind of supplement that's not third party tested it's either NSF or there's a bunch of different third party tests but if you're not if you're taking something that doesn't have that there's chances there could be something in it but austram people pop for that all the time my case was not that big of a deal cuz I wasn't as huge of a star as I am now but it still was like a big deal because of my name the reason it's going so crazy right now is because Ryan G is a superstar so people are freaking out but it happens to a lot of athletes I just before we move past it I just on that Superstar topic how is that is that Superstar factor that that someone like you has someone like Ryan has someone like Connor has is it something you're born with or is it is it a practice is it something you can learn and do you sit back and like think like oh how can I go viral today how can I I think it's both I think you have to want to be a superstar there's some guys in the UFC like I want to make more money I want this I want that but they don't really want to be a superstar you you got to want it you got to you got to have some kind of vision a long time before well and and also like who you are as a person you have to have that like Fire Within still though like before you got into want famous I want to be in the NFL I want to be NBA I wanted to be a [ __ ] athlete when I was young was instilled I was just for whatever reason I wanted to make it when I was young I'm from H in Montana like small ass can I ask you something what's your opinion on like the take b nickel takes like where he's like super friendly and humble and like I think he's a sweet ass [ __ ] they love him but like bro that [ __ ] pisses me off I think that [ __ ] is cool too n like you're a hum like [ __ ] talk your [ __ ] you're what 670 like bro talk your [ __ ] like it it kind of bores me no I get yeah I mean that's that's some people's opinion is like he's too nice too humble too that but he's being himself um but he's also super young in the sport I think he and he's still pretty what is he 28 you're in a sport of War if I was playing like [ __ ] Cricket I would be like yeah like but that's that's the thing is for for for a character like him what it seems like is that's what he's in is the sport of war and that's it he's not in the sport of entertainment he's a nice ass sweetheart get there is some people that that understand both sides of things but I also have respect for and I see when someone's that's strictly in the sport of if I play chess with you I'm going to be like good game and I'm going to shake your hand I talk [ __ ] be F ass to a PO it I'm going to be like [ __ ] you you need to get better at whatever you're doing dial dialing it back a little bit um to the aost stream thing I think it's like what do you think about Conor tweeting still at like 3:00 a.m. like coked out he he he he sent shots at me and Ryan talking [ __ ] but it's it's crazy coming from Connor who literally got out of the usada pool to do steroid like legit steroids so it's kind of wild and I was the biggest Connor fan for a long time in the last couple weeks ever since he sent that wasn't even a couple weeks ago probably a week ago I've been trying to hate him I've been trying to be like [ __ ] you Connor but I can't I love Connor I it's like I am excited for his fight coming up I'm excited I want you know I'm all about it what's the fight is it Chandler Chandler in June it's going to be big they just been trying to do it for a long time so I didn't know if it still still I think officially I think it's I think I think the craziest part about it is what like eight weeks before a fight that he's still like coked and drunk out of his mind who you got though who that's a good it is crazy that he still like he tweeted that deleted like 20 minutes later he was definitely [ __ ] up on well that's what I was going to say we can't just Grace past that do you is that that's a that's a bold thing to say do you you know he's on coke is that a is that are you [ __ ] gills I don't know anything but I know for certain that he's brother like look at the time of the tweets and look at what he's saying like also and he's like known for this simar tweets yeah yeah I don't know just manic brother I think he is I do think Ryan is I think he when he said he was playing into it a little bit I I think he's kind of using that I think he's [ __ ] crazy what what what would happen if you and Ryan boxed that's I mean there's only one way to find out he has a lot better chances of beating me in a boxing match than he does in a real fight keep up I do I I [ __ ] I truly believe in myself that's how I got to the [ __ ] position I'm in right now I can box I can throw hands um I don't think it'd be easy by any means I do think it's possible I beat him I'm not saying my my odds are great but I do believe I could beat Ryan Bo if there was anybody you could box for your first boxing match debut who are you Bo give an easy fight give me Deon Haney you give [Laughter] me honest answer uh I mean if we're I I would say Floyd if I Pi if I could sit here and pick who I box first boxing fight I pick Floyd because it would be the biggest most crazy most legendary fight maybe not most legendary some people for me okay but outside of that on a skill based level oh I I could hang with some good [ __ ] pro boxers I'm undefeated in boxing you think you think if you and uh ilot boxed that' be ilot is very very [ __ ] skilled boxing that's an interesting question so who what what professional boxer would you equate your PA Mike Tyson I know of Devon Haney now because Ryan Garcia beat him uh dvon Davis he's really short I know him um maybe smacking [ __ ] up though he does he that little guy he can't he can't ride roll coasters though that is true so there's a there's a tradeoff like Cruz fight he was riding a roller coaster no like I'm talking about like at the fair oh no you know like there there's a trade-off in life you know where things get weird it's like it's like yo he's really good but you can't even just hit Dante fan brother can't even ride the top not a Dante fan that's not what I'm wait what did what did I say to say I'm not a you didn't say I mean I don't think he knows that it's a short joke I don't think he picked up on you want me tell him I was joking shut the [ __ ] up I get I say that was a joke I'm what are you trying to say I'm but are you trying to insinuate that I'm short no honestly you're probably what five you're 5'9 you're like 5' seven and a half stop doing stop doing it stop doing that cuz [ __ ] is going to see this and be like he's 5'6 actually if you watching this and you think I'm 5'6 and you want to try me in person please any [ __ ] who see me out I'm punching your [ __ ] out I'm like 5'9 on a good day when when I'm lying to women I'm 5'10 for sure who's gonna ID me I'm wearing forces I'm a [ __ ] liar all right so now for the truth jakee he's like what like he's 5 No but don't do that bro all right all right we won't we'll cut that out like yeah n don't cut it out n don't see me and see these but you know dvon is 5'5 legit that's cool bro I know but is that not short just be honest is that five five short for a grown man for a grown man is that short you can be a fan I'm not I'm a fan of javante and he's five that's a little little bro all right the joke went over his head anyways so the short joke [ __ ] is trying to play me like I'm short no no no we're we're not we're not you're [ __ ] tall all right let's pivot yeah so um SI yeah sh shout out to the shout out to the pivot but but yeah like Jasper's a little riled up things are on edge he's a little he's a little turned up it's been a long day a long two days we've been shooting uh because we have a new [ __ ] company did we say we talk about that yet I we said in the beginning raise your arms up [ __ ] goed [ __ ] goed shout out to w a fun few days it's been a fun few days days you're going to see the content rolling out um but you speaking of but Ruby Rose did a good job oh my God I wanted to bite that M listen anyway if you're near wmart if you're watching this right now I don't give a [ __ ] what you're doing you could be taking care of your kid you could be taking care of your elderly parents [ __ ] them go to Walmart June 1st Nationwide I don't care if you in Pensacola you in Massachusetts all in places that sound [ __ ] stupid there's a Walmart there and you go there it's a better for you product vitamin ifuse number [ __ ] one yeah no basically I I think dialing back like the business story of it because you're also like a very smart businessman intellectual doing everything you do in and outside of the Ring which a lot of people don't have which contributes to you being uh the biggest in my opinion the biggest UFC star um but yeah we we basically I guess this is the podcast where we tell people where W came from but um we started building this company like a year and a half ago and really saw how all these other companies like as we move into better for you products and less harmful products we saw how the leaders in the space didn't have the best formulas didn't have the best manufacturing had all of these harmful substances in it and we're also brands from when I was like 9 years old I don't want to list names but they're still like having all the Shelf space in stores and I was just like this is wild like this is boring this is lame the the the we need something new we need something that's better uh males have vitamin uh deficiencies like crazy especially with magnesium Jasper just can't get enough of it uh especially with magnesium um and biotin is in the body wash uh vitamin E one two of the best vitamins for your skin and hair um but as The Story Goes long story short we we come up with this brand that represents so many things um but I think winning in everyday life whether you're the valedictorian whether you are the high school jock whether you're philanthropist now you have a product that you can embody and wear every single day that's increasing your vitamin intake that is less harmful to you that's where the idea came from and just being the winning formula in category uh went to Walmart pitched them the whole idea they [ __ ] loved it helped us build the brand even and come up with the scent profiles and all the things that are the the most popular um and this has been something I've wanted to do for so long we had to bring in the best people to be a part of it the winners in their category and that's number one Numero Uno sha Ali here um and he instantly saw the vision and already in the past couple of days it's been like super fun filming all the content behind yeah I was pumped when you [ __ ] called me appreciate you thinking of me and uh excited to help grow this business [ __ ] it's needed it's needed we're going to take over the whole bathroom you know tooed if you [ __ ] with the dogs and cows and chickens dog in you I know what I got that dog in me and I use it so be dog free baby am I missing anything with that no I think that was great the one the one thing I would touch on and you did in a way but it's it is body wash it is body spray it is deodorant but it also is there's an ethos that stands behind this brand which is the ethos that you stand for and it's the ethos that you stand for and the ethos that you stand for and the one that I stand for if I say ethos again I'm GNA start stumbling over my words but it's it's it's like you said it it doesn't the winners in life aren't just you you're on a big stage in life you're you're you're crushing it in every aspect financially you're a star you're leading your sport that's awesome on every [ __ ] level it's it's an encouragement to to young men all around the world to [ __ ] get up off their ass and get sh it don't matter if you score high on a test you whatever the [ __ ] it is that you do well maybe not so it matters what the [ __ ] you do but it also doesn't matter what the [ __ ] you do anybody is a winner as long as you put in the work and you have the will to win and I love it I I would say that's wrong I would say that not anybody is a winner and I think that's something that the brand also stands for like you really got to win you got to as you have the will to win no I'm just saying I think that's an important point cuz we live in a world today where a lot of people think everybody can be a winner that's not true if you Los you might be a loser and if you're a loser the good news is there's a hidden l in the logo actually we'll trace it for you with our graphic design team there's a hidden l in the logo because and I I I wanted to make sure that was was a thing because the biggest loss of my life turned out to be the biggest W in my life and I always had the saying like two L's make a w and when I lost to Tommy Fury it was embarrassing all these things but I realized I wasn't focused I wasn't as locked in as I could be the team around me from a boxing standpoint wasn't good I was having personal issues with relationships and all of these things that I had to shed and grow from and I grew into this new and completely different person but I wouldn't have done that if I didn't lose on the biggest stage possible and I think that was part of the ethos ethos ethos ethos of the brand was to encourage people that in their lowest moments to turn those into into their biggest W's eventually when Jake just said that the biggest loss of his life ended up being the biggest W of his life you said same yeah yeah same what what was that story for supposedly lost for lost to Cheeto back in 2020 August it it was I mean it sucked at the time but I it didn't suck too bad because I was like okay I didn't lose because I you know and it was different I wasn't I mean I was focused everything went good training camp everything was good but I was like that sucks I'm goingon to get that back someday when the time is right and then my last fight two two months ago in Miami headline I'm the champ defending my belt against that same guy how rewarding was that three and a half years later August three and a half years later boom beat his ass as a fan of yours it made it so sweet because of all the doubters that constantly like put you down and didn't believe in you and said he was going to destroy you and then you he literally like you embarrass him that was a performance of a life you embarrassed the [ __ ] out of him and I think that's literally a prime example of turning l l into into a w and I really that's what that's where the hidden l in the brand in the logo is um and representing that every single day when you see these products in your bathroom and when we say we have a saying it's not just a product it's a lifestyle absolutely trademarked Incorporated All Rights Reserved 2024 brother uh but but yeah man it's it's an honor to have you a part of this and uh we we really made what we think are the best products on the market from the body wash being exfoliating vitamin infused to the body spray what we found out is a lot of these fragrances like you get like these high-end designer brands that have like $500 colognes turns out it only cost them a dollar to make that and they're literally making like $499 on top of that so we had a fine fragrance house is what these places are called and we got the super expensive scents and gave it to people to what they're worth like we're not trying to these products are super super affordable and I think it's so funny because that's the world we live in where like you just label something and get like a European girl to go this is one of the lower priced men's care products on the market yeah if I'm not mistaken and it's it's the $500 fragrance in the affordable bottle because we want everyone we've been using a body wash in the past two days since we got the samples after the shoot and I personally want to say I got the in there you could bleep it out whatever you want to do W's winning n b genuinely that's that's the saying is the it's winning formula cuz it really is like it really is if if we're going to call our company [ __ ] W it has to be the best we the winners winning product indeed indeed winning customers all that type of [ __ ] indeed better Derek today he's just got a punch I'm not Li I talked to him before he left he wants to punch you up bro he's got a punchable face I like him though it's weird it's like God I like that guy but I want [ __ ] KO pick him up and like it's okay boom one more to the liing me earlier and I'm just letting you know don't shoot the messenger on God he said he wants to get in the ring with you I can call him really he oh yeah he he you want to call him yeah where is he at is wait uh no call no call he's coming up oh um he's talking smack he said he actually wants a spar I swear to God he said he wants to get percentage should I go you guys I literally out let that's crazy timeing saying talk [ __ ] to my face if you're going to talk [ __ ] that's crazy timing what were you saying they were telling me you want to get in the ring and Spar bit or they didn't say Spar they said fight yeah I'm down to do either but uh yeah no I'm just sick of the [ __ ] [ __ ] you've been saying on your podcast uh you called me you made fun of my weight and you called me gay I did not no I well okay okay you said that he wouldn't ever say that what you got to say what your chest that's what I just [ __ ] said bro I he was like oh if I if stand on it you talking to him you talking to him you ain't talking to me my assistant Sono would would piece you he's never boxed a day he never I'm here to fight your video I'm here to fight you what did I what was the first thing I said to you when when I saw you what was the first thing I said to you that we could fight no I said you look thick wait but when we were talking earlier weren't you saying he's a [ __ ] and you wanted to get a ring with him and all type [ __ ] what I'm saying right now say it then I just said the [ __ ] ring so we can after this we have a ring 2 feet away and he's a [ __ ] and whatever else you was saying to me yeah he's [ __ ] what about my hair say something about my hair I I already said that at the W shoot that you look like you haven't showered in [ __ ] a week okay all right d hey buddy hey hey what's your long-term play not no but see you guys you guys are making me seem crazy you're out of your mind he Derek Dereck go warm up hit the hit the heavy back H the warm up is almost listen legendary as send location dble PIV go warm up hey hey double pivot sit sit I'm not [ __ ] no I I'll sit and talk but I'm not [ __ ] no sit on the floor walk you want to take my seat hey how much how much of what's going on ch ch how much of what's going on is is a character versus like actual delusion how much is a character yeah decent uh I would say there are times where I know what I have to do for my boxing career to like like we all why is he laughing cuz you said career I beat your [ __ ] boy your [ __ ] [ __ ] bro you know what I I recall you did beat I recall calling steiny saying what the [ __ ] was that buddy I love steiny but I do remember watching that and thinking I wasn't proud of that I was not proud of that from steiny and I wish I wish he would come to the gym I wish he'd get in there I wish he'd train a little bit and I wish he would have a rematch but that's on him I've been trying to get the rematch but he's been ding me do you think Derek won he said I won I thought I thought he won I'd have to rewatch but I do think I come on baby the comments have [ __ ] dragged me for months after that [ __ ] 99% of the comments say I lost so please say it one more time Sean no I said it what I said it's like therapy or something no but to answer your question uh we all know uh uh as Fighters there's a side of promotion stop [ __ ] first of all Gus shut the [ __ ] up our our audio guys uh like can't stop laughing is that the facial his facial hair or is what he's saying bro that's bold of you to talk facial hair bro that's bold of you to I'm not Li you look dirty you look like Jeffrey done training right Jesus I train every day but anyway we know like there's two sides of of promotion as well as the actual athletic competition that is Combat Sports so there are times where I might play up a little bit like hey promoting but let him go let him go all right if you if all if you think I'm all promoting that I'll see you in the [ __ ] ring and I'll knock both you either of you out well um well Jake's a [ __ ] fat [ __ ] right now he weighs like 240 so I got I goty I gotta pick my words wisely like he's Jake's 240 I I know I know but like I'm not going to sit here and pick a fight against somebody that's 240 when I'm se's my weight class when I stopped you in one round like just like but when I was getting started out of come this is where I'm at since then I told him he could have somebody tag team I'm down I'm down to fight anybody in this [ __ ] room not one person in this room I'm the best part about this is like uh right after this we I think you're you're down to do like one round or three minutes right I mean I'd prefer 12 but we okay yeah 12 I mean that my biggest advantage in the ring ring is my cardio I do 12 12 okay so no I have a genuine question so five round I'm not I'm not one have I ever said I'm a UFC fighter no I'm just say we can box I'm just saying that's I'm used to five you want to do three we could do that aren't you trying to be a boxer with your [ __ ] Ryan Garcia call he would knock knock your [ __ ] ass out so quickly it wouldn't be close I'm one and0 pro boxing what are you actually I saw that video I saw video I'm also want to know thank you officially hey they count that's real commiss but uh I didn't mean I didn't mean to take I didn't mean to take over the pot I just wanted to a couple you definitely didn't yeah okay I try I'm trying to help you no we love you go warm up yeah yeah go warm up the bags don't warm up too much though don't get tired how much do you wa right now without Timberlands and jean shorts on high 120 low 13 no without lying though okay that [ __ ] is you think you got you got him one round I think I could beat him I think I can beat him I I think I could handicap myself to three just put on one glove I could do that what do you think actually happens now when you go downstairs and he gets in that ring like what's his plan that's what I don't get about him but that's why it's that's do me a favor that's why he's Cloud it up because love [ __ ] up [ __ ] he's going he's going to try to Yap he's going to try to talk please just go 100% yeah no actually actually please go 100% if he signs a consent form we'll have him no we've already got like multiple consent forms for better media with like death wavers [ __ ] no no no but he needs it he needs that I'll go like 40 no go like 75 Sean I'm I'm going to be honest bro don't even go 20% he's the nice [ __ ] bro don't do that bro you want him to go 100% no no to be honest but just like work with him and then just like maybe just just like a really good punching and then he'll give up 75% uh I'm nervous man I'm shaking for Derek yeah yeah that's good I understand that there a couple flinches if you Flinch hard enough the the wind coming off you will put him down let him walk you down and bait him boom sleeping what's your next upcoming fight a maraba jaaba and when is that uh not nothing yet I'm hoping for September maybe October maybe November maybe December I'm F ready to go baby what if it was next month I wouldn't be ready to go I like I like 10 to 12 weeks 10 to 12 he likes eight I mean I I normally do like 10 yeah just like but I've been super the first few weeks are [ __ ] pre-amps this Camp I'm channeling my Ryan Garcia would you ever do a Ryan Garcia regiment during Camp drink and smoke every night you do a little I I probably yeah I'm not actually doing that for the people out there he's locked in clocked in locked in locked in ready to go yeah May 20th we start but by the time the people see this it'll be uh June or something like that that is crazy you're fighting Mike that you fought Ben asran wrestler good good [ __ ] UFC was really good UF bit Tyron Woodley twice Anderson Silva knockout of the year with Nate Robinson can't forget about deji deji the the the goat do we say Gibb or is that like that's just crazy resume like literally [ __ ] C by way thank you Gib cuz we had a really good party after he knocked you the [ __ ] out who W we're skipping two professional boxers this always no no the recent ones this always happens I'm trying to just think cuz two cuz this is what everybody asked for this is what everybody asked for who who are the two professional boxers you fighted you got to name them Andre August and Ryan Borland go okay people don't people are like fight a pro boxer and then I do and then they're like that was boring as a man of combat he what were 10 and one nine and one nine and one what is your take on his [ __ ] all of his fights and who he's fighting in the competition dude I've been excited as [ __ ] since I started I remember you I remember the first time I watched was the Nate Robinson I watched that one at home and then uh I don't remember what it was after that but I remember watching Ben Asam in Atlanta I think that was the first time we actually met was right after the fight I think we hugged I was like y I picked you up you carried me back to the locker room that it was love at first sight that was crazy actually yeah actually I [ __ ] with him we became best friends like a couple days later you going to leave me hanging no no I would it's my eyebrow but uh yeah no I think he's obviously super skilled I think it's and I I it's inspired me even in the position I'm at UFC World Champ sexy you know what I mean like tall dark handsome TR inspired me just business the business uh side of things that you've done I've always thought putting on massive fight that's why I'm such a huge Conor fan cuz the pay-per-views he's done is so [ __ ] he's been fighting for four years and [ __ ] that he's been doing the massive fights the fights I get excited for there's a few UFC fights the high the big big fights that I get excited for but every time you fought even when uh Logan fought Floyd I was [ __ ] like excited like all fight week so i' I've been inspired from what you've done from a business side from the boxing side they even just start so not late but for a boxer but these boxers start when they're [ __ ] three four years old like Ryan and tank like they're young buck the Tik Tac I sent you of Devon Haney's debut fight yeah it's wild he was fighting a five foot Mexican in a in a bar was it Dante bro if I show you this [ __ ] oh no I did see that I did see that I did see that when you started even seeing that first video fighting Anderson Silva six fights in bro like do you know how insane that is he's one of the greatest correct me if I'm wrong UFC Strikers in history yeah 100% so does that make me one of the greatest UFC Strikers and one of the greatest wrestlers cuz wood but Ben ask was but Nate Diaz is ducking me in MMA oh am crazy I am weak that's a sick fight MMA I I wish it was that would happened right after the boxing same he's actually ducking it which is why it's crazy because he's not he's not in UFC no but we we upped it to 15 million damn that's crazy though that would be a I like Nate Diaz but that would be such a fun buildup he actually doesn't want to do it all Sean how do you genuinely Jake's not here it's me and you in a room actually how do you see that fight going for Jake what MMA him you're not here J for Nate in MMA keep it a bean God it's it's so hard to you're a big [ __ ] right now on what weight would it be5 185 I don't hate I don't I it's not a it's a winable fight for you I really do think that but Nate is so [ __ ] you would have to do what I did against aljo and morab do not let that [ __ ] grab you not that you can't wrestle cuz I know you can wrestle but once he starts grabbing you and doing Jiu-Jitsu if he gets on top his little he likes his little trips it would be hard for you to win I feel like if he if he started grappling just pure Jiu-Jitsu if it let's be real if it goes to the floor is he [ __ ] if he's on his back Nate's not like a super strong guy so if you learn how to like I mean I'm sure you know how to get up to a single legegg stuff like that but then you start getting your neck grabbed I don't know how much Jiu-Jitsu you know I mean Nate's a [ __ ] high Lev black belt um if you could keep it standing 100% there's winnable ways there if he if he went to the ground feel like he might be able to grab your neck no that that's exactly how I feel about it if I don't get guillotined yeah then I win the fight because even if he was on top take your back but even if he was on top of me I would just throw him off of me cuz he's also the weakest puncher I've ever fought like when he was hitting me I was I almost like started laughing I'm I'm not even saying this to talk [ __ ] out of everyone I've sparred in my whole entire life and everyone I fought his punches are even me we I don't think you ever landed a punch on me is that true well that's not true so I don't anyone no I'm literally not even talking [ __ ] which is why I think it's funny that he dropped Connor and [ __ ] cuz it's just like how Conor with like to the ground yeah like with a straight left hand yeah which is crazy like I I'm not just talking [ __ ] when I say that and I've told you I've literally told you this you told me this after the fight yeah I was like he is the weakest puncher I've ever fought in my life who's who's the weakest puncher you've ever you've ever come to face um there I mean there's been so many fights where I later didn't even get hit um uh does that like make you jaded at all when you get into a fight and you don't really get love that [ __ ] I prefer not to get hit at all but like if I was you and I wasn't get hit at all I'd probably work less no no no no I I know I don't get hit because I work that hard so if I didn't work hard I know I'd probably get hit I'm just a lazy [ __ ] so so here you are on top of the world we're launching [ __ ] W going to be a billion dollar business [ __ ] you I always forget uh UFC champ accomplishing all your goals what do you want next uh what are what is the threeyear fiveyear for Sean I I truly do want to get a boxing fight I'm not I'm not super set on that to where like I'm like going to be [ __ ] if it doesn't happen I do think it'll be interesting especially if I go out there knock morab out Ryan does his thing I think there's a [ __ ] sweet fight there if it doesn't happen not that worried about it want to go out there beat morab I'd like to you know if Max Max and Elia fight I would like to fight go move up to 45 fight the winner of that um you know maybe have three to five maybe have a few more kids definitely want another little baby I love kids my fite pump him out shout out to Danny who's your top pick in a boxing fight though if you if you could choose your Ryan now was like the I mean what he after dvon Beat Ryan I was like javante then Ryan goes out there does his thing really though I think Dante do you is that is that not a big [ __ ] leap Ryan like you said before he's been doing this his whole life one thing that's been proven is that the crossover it's it's not a good return Fury he did his thing okay the excep is the exception we've seen it with okay but then Anthony Joshua put his ass t was crazy super night night he was I'm I'm here for big fights like I wanted to get into the UFC and I wanted to make big fights watching Conor versus Floyd I'm like that [ __ ] happened really happened hey you versus Derek that could be as big as Connor in Floyd but no but I I think the craziest [ __ ] about Conor versus Floyd is that overall it was a W for everyone involved so there's certain fights where it just like doesn't matter what happens that's the world we live in yeah I mean UFC told me they said if the if the fight's big enough and it'll make the UFC money they'll do it what means more to you your your your record being pre or the amount of money you're making all right let me ask you something it's about to get real J's drunk Jasper's drunk as [ __ ] y record or money [ __ ] it depends the Gap like like the gap of money if it's like an extra 10 15 20 million but I lose a couple important fights probably not you just take like 150 million I'll be like like [ __ ] my record baby yeah it depends on the gap of money Jake Paul is not here right now just like a Mayweather Conor McGregor you taking that fight ver Jake yeah no he's my buddy I could I mean I don't I don't even no I no funny no there's you know what's funny is always in my Snapchat story once once a day pretty much someone says we knock out Jake Paul like there's every sing all the time for so long people just want to see me get [ __ ] is good though that's like the thing yeah but I'm sensitive it is funny though people [ __ ] love to hate confidence the craziest thing though actually about both of you like I met you very recently like I didn't realize you're as like normal as you are I don't know why I thought you violent like you guys are both like very goofy mellow and stupid and c and and awesome it's like the greatest thing ever like I couldn't believe when I met you you're like one of us like yeah I wouldn't think you're a [ __ ] yeah one of the coolest people in the world for sure yeah but not a lot of people uh can like I don't know we have like a weird it's hard toes Meat Heads I'm like this the this my dog I think it's a little bit of dark humor too it's like some [ __ ] up [ __ ] that we say off camera [ __ ] sometimes but I think it's like there's a certain yeah like that's how my whole group is back home it's like we all just we're all just kind of [ __ ] dumb I'm smart but like they're dumb well someone commented like yo Jake Paul's the dumbest genius in the world and I was just like I say that [ __ ] all the time you wed up the other day and I was like this is the most genius dumbass in the world no jokes Hey Brother chill buddy trying to get me cancelled no what how old are you 23 are you really yeah no you're not he's not is he what do you think think what did you think Oh no you're 267 27 what did you think he was I thought he was older I thought he was like 27 26 yeah a niggaer mature was that ladies you got a boo you got a girl you just be slanging she timeout right now I don't really talk about she don't time out it's a little tricky she not taking care of herself what do you guys think about Tom Brady R you watch it yeah they kept comp panning to you every 5 Seconds bro I swear there's a huge camer sitting there the whole time but it's cool to see Netflix going hard like that cuz they went hard they swing that meat around huha yeah let's pivot yeah just sorry about him I'm drunk man not yeah but but it was it was great it wasar they should have got rid of most of the football players going up there yeah there's a couple ones Ben afflac is that who that was on there that was wild that was so weird that was so weird it was cool to see how [ __ ] less sensitive people are becoming I feel like feel like it's recently like there's a big push back I think people got sick of it we went super super super PC for a long time people were like wait a second we like being able to say what we want to say I saw kill Tony say oh type of crazy [ __ ] on there that watch every [ __ ] Monday you were on kill Tony yeah how old are you actually buddy I'm a comedian Budd full time no yeah I was on that I was nervous as hell though I was like just being it's a live I do podcast once a week like me and Tim do our podcast every [ __ ] week but to be there in front of an audience live it's weird it's a different kind of well so you say Tim but let's let's talk about actually the fact that you get trained by by one of the greatest boxers of all time it's really that's something what's happened like that's crazy working with Canelo as your as your coach that's what I'm saying people don't going to be Ryan but like yeah that is true I never even thought about that for did you even know that this guy proba even know that that orange [ __ ] is nice wait will I get cancelled by the ginger community no you're black oh no my dad my dad's Ginger and I'm I'm like this [ __ ] is ginger bro he be shaving he be shaving his beard and I zoom in zoom in it's it's slightly orange so I'm a quarter ginger on South Park they made fun of Gingers and that [ __ ] made the news I [ __ ] with the ginger people but like y'all [ __ ] you like redhead girls oh yeah was Super Soaker but anyway yeah like y'all [ __ ] is orange and that's okay but back to you one of y'all that's not drunk I got a question cuz this guy clipped out a lot did Tim actually like you guys about him like saying to fight that was yeah that was real Tim always be talking [ __ ] to the like he's been doing that for so long so what happened he just talk I mean he just he Alo the knee's coming Alo you got to shoot Alo watch out for this like he's been saying that since I've been in the UFC like my debut vers terion where he was talking [ __ ] to terion too and uh he just does it every fight but this happened to just be crazy timing to like Tim you got Tim like alre you got to go and like literally he he like that's when he threw that left hand or whatever stepped into Southpaw and uh or stepped into Orthodox and got dropped it was it was funny the timing because he's like Al you got to go I don't I truly don't think that's why that's not why Alo went I bet you could I bet Alo didn't even hear that but Tim's always chirping and stuff but people on the internet are [ __ ] mad about that a lot of them actually like it I'll say majority of people are thinking that's the funniest [ __ ] ever there's a couple [ __ ] that are like you should be banned think it's a fight would you run the alra fight back or one and done never I like that why would I yeah am I supposed to top that you know what I'm saying I got love for Alo we had him on the show and he he seems like a good dude I actually don't mind Alo I does that ever happen where like you'll have a personal relationship with someone personal runin with them and it's all great but then now all of a sudden you have to fight each other I've never had I've not of running with someone that's been like uh more than like I've ran into aljo morab at the UFC I'm like hey what's up talk to him a little bit you know nothing no ill will um but I haven't had like a run with someone I actually lik them mhm and then at the fight them so you're not friends with any any other UFC fighters oh I have a there's there's a couple guys in my in my weight class that I train with at the lab that are like climbing the r uh ladders what happened with uh the 125 pounder I I don't even know his name and I'm not I'm just not like yeah what's his name I Alexander pania bro this story is actually kind of funny so 2016 I think it was it was like 3 and0 4 and0 and I was still fighting at like I fought at 125 not too long before that I fought at like 130 which is in a weight class was like so I wasn't like a 155 like I am now I was probably like 14 back then and uh Henry cejudo comes in I'm three or four and0 at the point at this point it comes in with this kid Alexander PTO just won The Ultimate Fighter I think he's got his UFC debut or it's his second UFC fight he's a couple weeks out from his fight I'm [ __ ] the night before me and Tim ripping bongs like hanging out being goofballs and [ __ ] so the next morning so we brought him in for sparring hry sudo brings in Alexander you're 4-0 he's King [ __ ] he he's just won The Ultimate Fighter and so they write the names on on the board who who you're sparring I'm like oh [ __ ] I got Alexander Pantoja versus me for one round one round he has three rounds so you write one one name then usually you you spar with one guy then they go out you spar with a fresh guy they go out spar with the fresh guy that's usually how it works so my name was just up there for one round that's it we Spar one round I didn't know anything about him cuz I I didn't really watch it like that 25 I don't really watch 25ers like that but somebody's like oh [ __ ] that's he a black belt he just won The Ultimate Fighter I was like oh [ __ ] I got to [ __ ] Focus up here first round boom Dro him with a liver kick and I wasn't going to post I record all my rounds I have so many sparring rounds like I wasn't going to post it was and for some reason I don't know why he would talk [ __ ] and bring it up cuz I literally I don't know you know know I don't know if you know how it works but you finish a guy the fight's over right no no did he um so I finished him the first round he hit him boom with the liver I posted the video yesterday and I've had it for a long time I didn't want to post it CU you don't post sparring like that but he just kept bringing it up so boom finished him first round um then uh after the first round round I go to walk out and Henry's over there crying box of Kleenex just like [ __ ] wiping his tears crying we want you for a second round so mad that this little like I was nobody just finished his dude he's in the UFC he's supposed to be the man finish him in the first round so Henry's crying saying he wants another round um so I piece him up again in the second round and I'm I'm dying at this point my lungs are burning I'm not in shape for fight I I'm nowhere near in Camp for a fight and I my lungs are hurting and uh Henry again crying blowing his nose and like I want you for a third and Benson comes in Benson Henderson absolute Legend comes in and was yelling cuz that's his it was the his gym the MMA lab we don't let people come in our gym and make us tired and blah blah blah and I'm [ __ ] just just huffing and puffing I just got done work in this dude for 10 minutes finished him in the first round did I say that liver kick um we'll put the footage I have the foot yeah it's right there insert the footage so third round come out boom piece him up again and he's so I don't know why he keeps bringing up this bringing this up in the media I think it's because people ask him but I don't know why he doesn't just say yeah yeah no no I don't want to talk about it he keeps saying like he's like oh I got in I found his range and [ __ ] I'm like bro you you stopped him in one round stopped him in round one and let him live and continue to fight for round two these delusional uh like wild people are weirdos but the reason I posted cuz he kept bringing it up exactly wait so is he the champ now at 125 yeah okay but why does he still want to talk [ __ ] to you if you got [ __ ] up that's what I'm saying I don't know either either you drop to 125 and get that no I can't drop to 125 that's too much now you're a thick [ __ ] I am a thick but yeah I SP I think it's important for up and cominging Spar uh fighters to record their rounds and watch their rounds not for that this reason you know but just to I've improve so much watching my sparring y I have thousands of rounds maybe not thousands hundreds of rounds from 10 years ago on my on my computer of uh it's like NFL team is watching footage the time [ __ ] 100% got to watch that [ __ ] that's I I have every single round recorded and and again I I don't post sparring either exactly you know put in a highlight video make a vlog boom we're sparring people but it's never like [ __ ] up your guy yeah exactly but Mike Perry honestly like what he's been doing is pretty Fu he went to Bare knuckle that [ __ ] just meant for him bare knuckle fighting it's crazy different going crazy he's doing good he's [ __ ] undefeated over there he's beating some really good guys stay over here [ __ ] [ __ ] only place that you should be getting tickets from is game time.co it's it's the only place I go it is the only place you can possibly go they have 110% price match guarantee that's what we use to get our tickets for the NBA Finals you can get $20 off your first order go to gametime.co JJ a $20 off your first order they're doing a deal specifically for y'all and you could see where your tickets are before you buy them seeing the seats they have all of the these great policies last 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platform there is Mike Paul versus Jake Tyson here's my official prediction tell us and even if even if it's against me like it's not it's not I do think you're going to beat Mike Tyson uh it's crazy that I even saying that out loud right now cuz you're fighting Mike Tyson it's [ __ ] crazy even just when we were walking down the the street today people all genders all ages knew you were fighting Mike Tyson it's such a massive fights live on Netflix which is [ __ ] crazy it's in a stadium which is [ __ ] crazy it is crazy I believe in you I see what you I see what you're doing I see you know that you believe in yourself Mike Tyson is uh hasn't fought in however long it's been so for him to just come up and get a fight be I I'm sure is going to be in as good a shape as he possibly could be in but it's just you know it's it's it's it's not his time right now I love Mike Tyson I never actually met him but I love Mike Tyson I do think Jake's gonna get the job done and I do think eight rounds eight two-minute rounds eight two-minute rounds I believe I believe you could put them away in the later rounds you know five six seven eight I do think you could put it put him down which is crazy to even [ __ ] think you rap yeah that's fire I'm just lazy and inconsistent that's not a w no that sh it is not you start using Brandon yell at him every day but cuz you can actually spit that's fire no but but people know him now from like podcasting they don't know he's a rapper and hurts his soul J sick name Lil jizz what J JZ that's good that's good you should switch your [ __ ] I switch my [ __ ] from come Master to kill Jas bro honestly though that's I think singing rapping spitting is one of the things that if I could switch talents be doing something like that that's good or twerking I ain't going to lie you shook that [ __ ] earlier I got a I got a thing on me you that [ __ ] wiggle a little bit let's let's pivot though cuz yep hit a pivot uh yeah do we have a speaker should we play Jasper's new song or something you got a new one I thought you were lazy some new [ __ ] go ahead play on your phone just put it in the speaker put it in the mic too this the [ __ ] I'm dropping when I'm Indie that sound decent I'm not rapping either I'm yapping that's not going to get you drunk yo I made this beat that's crazy I like the way you look I won't lie you got something I need you my with a fly girl like you doing with no guy a little sh don't really go outside I'm not crazy right place and right time you all smiles and pretty light brown [Music] [Music] like that better if I forget you but I just can't time saying do better and I'm sure you can find that guy that's worth all right cut it cut it cut it that's that's enough that's enough that's enough that's enough for real can't give the whole thing it's not out yet yeah hey good [ __ ] that's fire I'll be rapping though but that's some pop [ __ ] just cuz I can do it so why are you consistent cuz I'm lazy and jaded and and spoiled yeah it's unfortunate maam shout out to the homies for a lot of talented people out there that just are yeah don't smoke crack yo also there there is a parallel there don't do don't do that there's a parallel with the same thing he's talking about I think Fighters probably where it's like you could have all the talent in the world he's got that's why I get so [ __ ] mad at him it's cuz he has all the talent in the world really I get more pissed off than he gets and he could be a superstar but he just is lazy he doesn't put the work in he's not he's not strategic and it is hard when you got when you live in a crib in Puerto Rico right you got chefs and [ __ ] and you fly private with me yeah that's it that's it bro that's it you got to you got get paychecks and [ __ ] y'all got to evict me that's not a bad idea honestly I think we talked about it let's make I was I'm H we had a conversation but I just can't I can't because I love you so much I need you but then I'll probably be more like need you y yeah I guarante and then we you would still have to like fly in once a week to to do the pods and it would be resentment and then I I'll go out like and I'll try to start shooting at y'all oh my God I guarantee I would be in the position I'm in if I if I had money and like had already made it like financially had [ __ ] I wouldn't have made it that's why people think I'm crazy but CC the other side of it is like boom right so I'm from com California same hey shout out my [ __ ] yeah man I was homeless for the first half of my life mom's a drug addict dad's a gang member I've never had anything in my life right and my whole life has been music I dropped out in ninth grade I was like I'm going to make music my dad kicks me out he's like you can't live under this roof like be more like your brothers my brothers are [ __ ] star students one got a full ride scholarship loser all all type of [ __ ] nerd ass [ __ ] all those [ __ ] are fat and unemploy now one dropped out of school a full rise scholarship and is just sitting at home right so boom from having nothing to like me saying I'm going to risk everything that I have in my life to become a music artist and it works I get to a certain place and I'm like damn I did exactly I hit a ceiling right so it's like now I had to recalibrate he got a big record deal and then and then like use I crashed out and became a m addict for four four days a week for 30 like 90 days oh it's not bad but then I moved cuz my homeboy was like you need to move and I was like nah [ __ ] that I made a million I ain't going to move I'm going to maintain this lifestyle I'm a junkie but I'm rich yep I crashed out and was like yeah I need to move lost 60 lbs went to Puerto Rico locked in recalibrated and now I'm ready to be but that's that's here's the problem we run into now is that you've recalibrated and now it's still it's been 6 months the album's supposed to be 6 months ago and we're still waiting for the album that's the problem and that's what you got to work on never too late though let's start it let's get because you're vitamin deficient right yeah yeah cuz like a lot of people can't think straight when they're vitamin deficient and all that a week ago kind of elaborated on that so yeah this isn't therapy um I got shout out Suzie right right huh Susie but she's hot is she not you think my therapist you guys got the same one I could pee and vape on this podcast I got to go pee go pee I could pee yeah I mean I think we I think we end the episode because uh let's wrap it up you can get W available at Walmart anyway if you walk into Walmart whether you with your mom your daddy you by yourself you go in that [ __ ] men body care aisle you buy that and comment down below what you thought of the episode for um us being brain fried over and uh jper but Buzz also comment cuz this coming out when the product releases comment your favorite scent and sent $10,000 right no I'm send you 1,000 I ain't got 10,000 for you but I'll send you 1,000 I'll send someone 10,000 he'll send you 10,000 I'll send you a th000 and I'm going through the comments for sure anyway good luck Charlie and if you got a test soon good luck on that [ __ ] that's what we [Music] do what are those 8 O gloves I want you to know they were talking up there he ain't going easy so be ready all right legit be ready buddy I'm using these bags don't show Too Much don't show we're boxing we're boxing I don't I do that on accident sometimes just know that that might come up just keep your hands up I'm just saying I might throw that up I haven't knocked someone out in a while just cuz my last fight didn't go off it went off five rounds I've been like craving just putting someone's lights out lately it's weird versus your boy better Derek I I hope Sean isn't nice and just [ __ ] him up that's your that's your trainee [ __ ] D all righty folks welcome to your main event of the evening starting out first in the loser corner you have better day with a record of no wins no losses I beat ste's [ __ ] out no anything he is 5'7 120 lbs lost in the mile to better JoJo but he's still delusional in his fighting career and to my left in the winning Corner sponsored by W sugar sha Ali The Undefeated UFC champion of the world it's time to fight bring it to the center we already spoke about the rules in the locker room beforehand give me your glove give me your hand touch gloves I want a clean fair fight no no hits below the waist back to your Corners time you ready judge you ready and fight [Music] [Applause] I'm out of balance or something oh do Dodge that [ __ ] hold on hold on hold on hold [ __ ] come on come on just oh my God one back of the head no no no back of the head four ref didn't see it five six me in the eyes Walk This Way Walk This Way for me he's running Walk This Way for me my car run all right and we're in in that right that's called all right time time time one two that was a that was a slip four up six bro Rizo what the [ __ ] are you doing all right get up SLP all right come on time in come on got come on got you [ __ ] black I'm going to I need to work I need to see some work black UT D somebody said 10 seconds like 8 seconds ago all right great back to your corner back to your corner back to your corner stay in there you're doing good right now this feel good I feel good do you see that one I landed clean on his face I think we all terrible shut the [ __ ] up for once in your [ __ ] life shut the [ __ ] up Sean's doing half punches on him shut up I'll act like uh no don't act like bro I'm just I'm putting in work all right how this how you when you [ __ ] beat the old wash UFC fighters everybody comments you're fighting old was UFC fighters what do you think 10s I think they're right in in round two round two round two oh got him [ __ ] oh [Music] [ __ ] hey put that hey that that's a that's going to be a 10 count can't get me by the that's going to be a 10 count that's going to be a 10 count next time back in the just there going to be a 10 count next time get in there give me real quick get him with some you thank you perfect okay BL I'm going to need to see some more one two back to your corner white Corner neutral Corner 5 6 seven eight n look at me thank you bro come on you want to fight do you want to fight when I do you want to fight yes yeah wait wait time back in wake up time time time time time I promise okay it's to the floor the rules of transfer to MMA tap tap tap he's St he's T he's ta all right I block out all right you're good to go wait wait the fight was over get the [ __ ] out of the ring oh it's over it's over it's over it's over go you got it's over it's over it's over [Music]	biggest stage possible and I think that was part of the ethos ethos ethos ethos of the brand was to encourage people that in their lowest moments to turn those into into their biggest W's eventually when Jake just said that the biggest loss of his life ended up being the biggest W of his life you said same yeah yeah same what what was that story for supposedly lost for lost to Cheeto back in 2020 August it it was I mean it sucked at the time but I it didn't suck too bad because I was like okay I didn't lose because I you know and it was different I wasn't I mean I was focused everything went good training camp everything was good but I was like that sucks I'm goingon to get that back someday when the time is right and then my last fight two two months ago in Miami headline I'm the champ defending my belt against that same guy how rewarding was that three and a half years later August three and a half years later boom beat his ass as a fan of yours it made it so sweet because of all the doubters that constantly like put you down and didn't believe in you and said he was going to destroy you and then you he literally like you embarrass him that was a performance of a life you embarrassed the [ __ ] out of him and I think that's	8	7	9	biggest stage possible and I think that was part of the ethos ethos ethos ethos of the brand was to encourage people that in their lowest moments to turn those into into their biggest W's eventually when Jake just said that the biggest loss of his life ended up being the biggest W of his life you said same yeah yeah same what what was that story for supposedly lost for lost to Cheeto back in 2020 August it it was I mean it sucked at the time but I it didn't suck too bad because I was like okay I didn't lose because I you know and it was different I wasn't I mean I was focused everything went good training camp everything was good but I was like that sucks I'm goingon to get that back someday when the time is right and then my last fight two two months ago in Miami headline I'm the champ defending my belt against that same guy how rewarding was that three and a half years later August three and a half years later boom beat his ass	as a fan of yours it made it so sweet because of all the doubters that constantly like put you down and didn't believe in you and said he was going to destroy you and then you he literally like you embarrass him that was a performance of a life you embarrassed the [ __ ] out of him and I think that's	6,4,8	8,7,9	6	4	8	8	7	9
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXPZ1KzdpsY	4,103	mXPZ1KzdpsY	2024-06-20 00:00:00	well well well ladies and gentlemen do we have a special episode for you today none other than sugar Shan om Ali the current UFC bantamweight champion a legend in his own right this episode was off the cusp we were a little turned up Jasper was really really drunk so we weren't really prepared for this at all the conversations definitely got wild and obviously as you guys have seen over maybe the past week or so we launched a new company called w am men's carine in Walmart this company is so near and dear to my heart and I partnered with Shawn to bring this Vision to life amongst other celebrities artists and athletes that we are announcing over the next couple of weeks here get your w at Walmart it is very very very very very good stuff and yes you heard the news I am fighting Mike Perry on July 20th it is going down I'm still fighting Mike Tyson November 15th that is happening but I'm staying active knocking out Mike Perry on July 20th and I'm excited for y'all to listen to this episode and he the vision of w how it all came together and how Shawn got involved and then everything to do with Shawn's career this podcast has been a long time coming but prepare yourself for some idiocracy per usual uh this is [ __ ] with Jake Paul we have a secret handshake check it out AC let me get that stop playing mean yeah we created that because we actually have so many things to get into here this has been a long time coming Jasper did bring up something and the reason W was created was because the other products in the category had harmful dyes parabens sulfates hormone disruptors and so we wanted to create the better for you vitamin infused product and and Sean's a co-owner just signed today yesterday for the show but we we'll get into all of that we we've been you know bringing sea on for like we've been talking for like a month and a half yes sir yes sir um it is currently May we've been doing a lot of shoots this podcast will probably come out at post W launch you can get I'm so drunk I'm sorry y'all you can get it in uh Walmart every Walmart you in Paca Walmart get it in you in Pensacola it's in Walmart in Kentucky Walmart Walmart so basically uh we we brought in the greatest people in the world to help build W and Sean is one of those people but dialing everything back we will get into the company the body washes how this all came about but uh we've been wanting to do this podcast and thanks for joining us BR hey guys hey thanks for joining us right did you uh yeah I did you sh for an hour bro did you did you do do we know do we set the stage of the day and the fact that Jasper's slash right now okay cool y drunk is a [ __ ] y like double drunk yep yep yep you drunk yeah all that so um but just winding everything back uh I think we've been friends for a long time in fact you were the first guest on this show oh [ __ ] crazy Zoom crazy that's right that's right that's right the first ever episode you zoomed in and that's crazy we're thankful we're thankful for our friendship and it's pretty cool that now we're here again today uh getting less views than before and that's fire that's it congratulations less views we're not we're not it was it was a joke it was a joke if you watching this please like and comment cuz we falling off right now but man by the time this comes out you're going to be getting ready for me RAB how do you say his name I don't remember morab is iTab or or I don't know me that's got to be it me but you got to say it with the emphasis look meab mirab meab meab there you go there you go so yeah I should be getting ready hopefully I ain't got nothing scheduled hopefully uh you know Uncle Dana will call me say hey buddy you want to fight in in here and there and there and then I'm d b boom and that that's how that works what's up with everybody on your body though everybody talking [ __ ] even people youat I wanted to bring up yeah and he's like saying like he's trying to post about you even yesterday it is weird but when you concuss someone you know what I just say they don't think as well as they used to so I think he's still concussed and he's a little confused because he's talking [ __ ] still he not in his right mind because I can just throw up another post go because it's a throwback Thursday it's a throwback Friday do you think do you think people don't respect you enough cuz I I see that as your friend an unbiased like they just see social media and podcasts and the the hair and stuff like that and then they just sh week but I [ __ ] with you I appr that um I don't think it is well you can't you know I think it's fine I think you're jealous I ain't going to lie I got some inches under here let's smell that hair you can smell my [ __ ] must who I do think I feel a little bit disrespected as the champ but I think that last fight against Che kind of you know shut a little bit of people up canny go five rounds Cheeto beat me before the Alo fight um shut a lot of people up canny grapple didn't have to Grapple cuz he couldn't take me down yeah Alo couldn't take you down I think that was the biggest thing where they were like yo that's his weakness like yeah wrestle him down and then he just proved everyone wrong that's what's so interesting about this morab fight is he's supposedly well he is he's [ __ ] good at wrestling he's really really good at wrestling he's boring as [ __ ] and no one will there won't be one comment saying yeah right he's actually kind of fun not one person I'm com won I'm com you can I ask you something would you put yourself in your own top five Strikers in the UFC oh I'm yeah yo easily who's your Mount Rushmore strikker well I I mean I would unbiasedly I would put him as number one because adna is in like top three but he also like got beat by put that [ __ ] down boy he did uh bro I'm up there I'm up there Max is really good Max super his striking that's a good top five there that's four me Max Elia adaga uh I'm sure I'm missing some your with a one would it be that's that's a minus one Mount rmore is four yeah but I only got four but if you throw the five in it's a plus one isn't there only four yeah but but you ready to throw the five up I'm four all right that's my more but yeah once again uh this is a [ __ ] ass podcast so we apologize hey but something something you just touched on you talked about Fighters being fun and interesting how much and you're you're a superstar how much of you being a superstar how much of any fighter being a superstar comes down to them being fun and interesting as you are and how much of it comes down to their actual fighting good question uh well who's a super who who obviously Connor comes to mind I think he's he's a character he's fun he's interesting who else comes to mind is like a superstar I would say Izzy gives that off I think he's an interesting guy other than that there's not like a ton of fun like Ryan Garcia is doing a really good job right now of being [ __ ] interesting being a character uh I think that's fentel I think it's drugs as well I wouldn't deny that but he's still making people interested in Ryan versus Devon Haney was an interesting fight not because Devon Haney that dude's boring as [ __ ] you think he did them roids no I don't think Ryan did I think Devon needs to take that L he being a [ __ ] about I think the craziest [ __ ] you said to me and like I don't even know if we want to put this in there or bring it up but we we can always remove it but uh because of your your situation with the ostarine and you said to me like and it I like fully felt your energy you're like I swear on my daughter's life I never did that and you got popped for it yeah same thing happened uh to Ryan right now he popped for aost the low super low level a some [ __ ] like a trillionth of a gr the same thing happened to me uh so when that came out with Ryan like I truly truly didn't believe he took anything because it was the same [ __ ] and it happens to a lot of [ __ ] ostarine happens to how does that happen it's called the tainted supplement so if you're taking anything that has protein in it that's not third party tested uh could not just protein any kind of supplement that's not third party tested it's either NSF or there's a bunch of different third party tests but if you're not if you're taking something that doesn't have that there's chances there could be something in it but austram people pop for that all the time my case was not that big of a deal cuz I wasn't as huge of a star as I am now but it still was like a big deal because of my name the reason it's going so crazy right now is because Ryan G is a superstar so people are freaking out but it happens to a lot of athletes I just before we move past it I just on that Superstar topic how is that is that Superstar factor that that someone like you has someone like Ryan has someone like Connor has is it something you're born with or is it is it a practice is it something you can learn and do you sit back and like think like oh how can I go viral today how can I I think it's both I think you have to want to be a superstar there's some guys in the UFC like I want to make more money I want this I want that but they don't really want to be a superstar you you got to want it you got to you got to have some kind of vision a long time before well and and also like who you are as a person you have to have that like Fire Within still though like before you got into want famous I want to be in the NFL I want to be NBA I wanted to be a [ __ ] athlete when I was young was instilled I was just for whatever reason I wanted to make it when I was young I'm from H in Montana like small ass can I ask you something what's your opinion on like the take b nickel takes like where he's like super friendly and humble and like I think he's a sweet ass [ __ ] they love him but like bro that [ __ ] pisses me off I think that [ __ ] is cool too n like you're a hum like [ __ ] talk your [ __ ] you're what 670 like bro talk your [ __ ] like it it kind of bores me no I get yeah I mean that's that's some people's opinion is like he's too nice too humble too that but he's being himself um but he's also super young in the sport I think he and he's still pretty what is he 28 you're in a sport of War if I was playing like [ __ ] Cricket I would be like yeah like but that's that's the thing is for for for a character like him what it seems like is that's what he's in is the sport of war and that's it he's not in the sport of entertainment he's a nice ass sweetheart get there is some people that that understand both sides of things but I also have respect for and I see when someone's that's strictly in the sport of if I play chess with you I'm going to be like good game and I'm going to shake your hand I talk [ __ ] be F ass to a PO it I'm going to be like [ __ ] you you need to get better at whatever you're doing dial dialing it back a little bit um to the aost stream thing I think it's like what do you think about Conor tweeting still at like 3:00 a.m. like coked out he he he he sent shots at me and Ryan talking [ __ ] but it's it's crazy coming from Connor who literally got out of the usada pool to do steroid like legit steroids so it's kind of wild and I was the biggest Connor fan for a long time in the last couple weeks ever since he sent that wasn't even a couple weeks ago probably a week ago I've been trying to hate him I've been trying to be like [ __ ] you Connor but I can't I love Connor I it's like I am excited for his fight coming up I'm excited I want you know I'm all about it what's the fight is it Chandler Chandler in June it's going to be big they just been trying to do it for a long time so I didn't know if it still still I think officially I think it's I think I think the craziest part about it is what like eight weeks before a fight that he's still like coked and drunk out of his mind who you got though who that's a good it is crazy that he still like he tweeted that deleted like 20 minutes later he was definitely [ __ ] up on well that's what I was going to say we can't just Grace past that do you is that that's a that's a bold thing to say do you you know he's on coke is that a is that are you [ __ ] gills I don't know anything but I know for certain that he's brother like look at the time of the tweets and look at what he's saying like also and he's like known for this simar tweets yeah yeah I don't know just manic brother I think he is I do think Ryan is I think he when he said he was playing into it a little bit I I think he's kind of using that I think he's [ __ ] crazy what what what would happen if you and Ryan boxed that's I mean there's only one way to find out he has a lot better chances of beating me in a boxing match than he does in a real fight keep up I do I I [ __ ] I truly believe in myself that's how I got to the [ __ ] position I'm in right now I can box I can throw hands um I don't think it'd be easy by any means I do think it's possible I beat him I'm not saying my my odds are great but I do believe I could beat Ryan Bo if there was anybody you could box for your first boxing match debut who are you Bo give an easy fight give me Deon Haney you give [Laughter] me honest answer uh I mean if we're I I would say Floyd if I Pi if I could sit here and pick who I box first boxing fight I pick Floyd because it would be the biggest most crazy most legendary fight maybe not most legendary some people for me okay but outside of that on a skill based level oh I I could hang with some good [ __ ] pro boxers I'm undefeated in boxing you think you think if you and uh ilot boxed that' be ilot is very very [ __ ] skilled boxing that's an interesting question so who what what professional boxer would you equate your PA Mike Tyson I know of Devon Haney now because Ryan Garcia beat him uh dvon Davis he's really short I know him um maybe smacking [ __ ] up though he does he that little guy he can't he can't ride roll coasters though that is true so there's a there's a tradeoff like Cruz fight he was riding a roller coaster no like I'm talking about like at the fair oh no you know like there there's a trade-off in life you know where things get weird it's like it's like yo he's really good but you can't even just hit Dante fan brother can't even ride the top not a Dante fan that's not what I'm wait what did what did I say to say I'm not a you didn't say I mean I don't think he knows that it's a short joke I don't think he picked up on you want me tell him I was joking shut the [ __ ] up I get I say that was a joke I'm what are you trying to say I'm but are you trying to insinuate that I'm short no honestly you're probably what five you're 5'9 you're like 5' seven and a half stop doing stop doing it stop doing that cuz [ __ ] is going to see this and be like he's 5'6 actually if you watching this and you think I'm 5'6 and you want to try me in person please any [ __ ] who see me out I'm punching your [ __ ] out I'm like 5'9 on a good day when when I'm lying to women I'm 5'10 for sure who's gonna ID me I'm wearing forces I'm a [ __ ] liar all right so now for the truth jakee he's like what like he's 5 No but don't do that bro all right all right we won't we'll cut that out like yeah n don't cut it out n don't see me and see these but you know dvon is 5'5 legit that's cool bro I know but is that not short just be honest is that five five short for a grown man for a grown man is that short you can be a fan I'm not I'm a fan of javante and he's five that's a little little bro all right the joke went over his head anyways so the short joke [ __ ] is trying to play me like I'm short no no no we're we're not we're not you're [ __ ] tall all right let's pivot yeah so um SI yeah sh shout out to the shout out to the pivot but but yeah like Jasper's a little riled up things are on edge he's a little he's a little turned up it's been a long day a long two days we've been shooting uh because we have a new [ __ ] company did we say we talk about that yet I we said in the beginning raise your arms up [ __ ] goed [ __ ] goed shout out to w a fun few days it's been a fun few days days you're going to see the content rolling out um but you speaking of but Ruby Rose did a good job oh my God I wanted to bite that M listen anyway if you're near wmart if you're watching this right now I don't give a [ __ ] what you're doing you could be taking care of your kid you could be taking care of your elderly parents [ __ ] them go to Walmart June 1st Nationwide I don't care if you in Pensacola you in Massachusetts all in places that sound [ __ ] stupid there's a Walmart there and you go there it's a better for you product vitamin ifuse number [ __ ] one yeah no basically I I think dialing back like the business story of it because you're also like a very smart businessman intellectual doing everything you do in and outside of the Ring which a lot of people don't have which contributes to you being uh the biggest in my opinion the biggest UFC star um but yeah we we basically I guess this is the podcast where we tell people where W came from but um we started building this company like a year and a half ago and really saw how all these other companies like as we move into better for you products and less harmful products we saw how the leaders in the space didn't have the best formulas didn't have the best manufacturing had all of these harmful substances in it and we're also brands from when I was like 9 years old I don't want to list names but they're still like having all the Shelf space in stores and I was just like this is wild like this is boring this is lame the the the we need something new we need something that's better uh males have vitamin uh deficiencies like crazy especially with magnesium Jasper just can't get enough of it uh especially with magnesium um and biotin is in the body wash uh vitamin E one two of the best vitamins for your skin and hair um but as The Story Goes long story short we we come up with this brand that represents so many things um but I think winning in everyday life whether you're the valedictorian whether you are the high school jock whether you're philanthropist now you have a product that you can embody and wear every single day that's increasing your vitamin intake that is less harmful to you that's where the idea came from and just being the winning formula in category uh went to Walmart pitched them the whole idea they [ __ ] loved it helped us build the brand even and come up with the scent profiles and all the things that are the the most popular um and this has been something I've wanted to do for so long we had to bring in the best people to be a part of it the winners in their category and that's number one Numero Uno sha Ali here um and he instantly saw the vision and already in the past couple of days it's been like super fun filming all the content behind yeah I was pumped when you [ __ ] called me appreciate you thinking of me and uh excited to help grow this business [ __ ] it's needed it's needed we're going to take over the whole bathroom you know tooed if you [ __ ] with the dogs and cows and chickens dog in you I know what I got that dog in me and I use it so be dog free baby am I missing anything with that no I think that was great the one the one thing I would touch on and you did in a way but it's it is body wash it is body spray it is deodorant but it also is there's an ethos that stands behind this brand which is the ethos that you stand for and it's the ethos that you stand for and the ethos that you stand for and the one that I stand for if I say ethos again I'm GNA start stumbling over my words but it's it's it's like you said it it doesn't the winners in life aren't just you you're on a big stage in life you're you're you're crushing it in every aspect financially you're a star you're leading your sport that's awesome on every [ __ ] level it's it's an encouragement to to young men all around the world to [ __ ] get up off their ass and get sh it don't matter if you score high on a test you whatever the [ __ ] it is that you do well maybe not so it matters what the [ __ ] you do but it also doesn't matter what the [ __ ] you do anybody is a winner as long as you put in the work and you have the will to win and I love it I I would say that's wrong I would say that not anybody is a winner and I think that's something that the brand also stands for like you really got to win you got to as you have the will to win no I'm just saying I think that's an important point cuz we live in a world today where a lot of people think everybody can be a winner that's not true if you Los you might be a loser and if you're a loser the good news is there's a hidden l in the logo actually we'll trace it for you with our graphic design team there's a hidden l in the logo because and I I I wanted to make sure that was was a thing because the biggest loss of my life turned out to be the biggest W in my life and I always had the saying like two L's make a w and when I lost to Tommy Fury it was embarrassing all these things but I realized I wasn't focused I wasn't as locked in as I could be the team around me from a boxing standpoint wasn't good I was having personal issues with relationships and all of these things that I had to shed and grow from and I grew into this new and completely different person but I wouldn't have done that if I didn't lose on the biggest stage possible and I think that was part of the ethos ethos ethos ethos of the brand was to encourage people that in their lowest moments to turn those into into their biggest W's eventually when Jake just said that the biggest loss of his life ended up being the biggest W of his life you said same yeah yeah same what what was that story for supposedly lost for lost to Cheeto back in 2020 August it it was I mean it sucked at the time but I it didn't suck too bad because I was like okay I didn't lose because I you know and it was different I wasn't I mean I was focused everything went good training camp everything was good but I was like that sucks I'm goingon to get that back someday when the time is right and then my last fight two two months ago in Miami headline I'm the champ defending my belt against that same guy how rewarding was that three and a half years later August three and a half years later boom beat his ass as a fan of yours it made it so sweet because of all the doubters that constantly like put you down and didn't believe in you and said he was going to destroy you and then you he literally like you embarrass him that was a performance of a life you embarrassed the [ __ ] out of him and I think that's literally a prime example of turning l l into into a w and I really that's what that's where the hidden l in the brand in the logo is um and representing that every single day when you see these products in your bathroom and when we say we have a saying it's not just a product it's a lifestyle absolutely trademarked Incorporated All Rights Reserved 2024 brother uh but but yeah man it's it's an honor to have you a part of this and uh we we really made what we think are the best products on the market from the body wash being exfoliating vitamin infused to the body spray what we found out is a lot of these fragrances like you get like these high-end designer brands that have like $500 colognes turns out it only cost them a dollar to make that and they're literally making like $499 on top of that so we had a fine fragrance house is what these places are called and we got the super expensive scents and gave it to people to what they're worth like we're not trying to these products are super super affordable and I think it's so funny because that's the world we live in where like you just label something and get like a European girl to go this is one of the lower priced men's care products on the market yeah if I'm not mistaken and it's it's the $500 fragrance in the affordable bottle because we want everyone we've been using a body wash in the past two days since we got the samples after the shoot and I personally want to say I got the in there you could bleep it out whatever you want to do W's winning n b genuinely that's that's the saying is the it's winning formula cuz it really is like it really is if if we're going to call our company [ __ ] W it has to be the best we the winners winning product indeed indeed winning customers all that type of [ __ ] indeed better Derek today he's just got a punch I'm not Li I talked to him before he left he wants to punch you up bro he's got a punchable face I like him though it's weird it's like God I like that guy but I want [ __ ] KO pick him up and like it's okay boom one more to the liing me earlier and I'm just letting you know don't shoot the messenger on God he said he wants to get in the ring with you I can call him really he oh yeah he he you want to call him yeah where is he at is wait uh no call no call he's coming up oh um he's talking smack he said he actually wants a spar I swear to God he said he wants to get percentage should I go you guys I literally out let that's crazy timeing saying talk [ __ ] to my face if you're going to talk [ __ ] that's crazy timing what were you saying they were telling me you want to get in the ring and Spar bit or they didn't say Spar they said fight yeah I'm down to do either but uh yeah no I'm just sick of the [ __ ] [ __ ] you've been saying on your podcast uh you called me you made fun of my weight and you called me gay I did not no I well okay okay you said that he wouldn't ever say that what you got to say what your chest that's what I just [ __ ] said bro I he was like oh if I if stand on it you talking to him you talking to him you ain't talking to me my assistant Sono would would piece you he's never boxed a day he never I'm here to fight your video I'm here to fight you what did I what was the first thing I said to you when when I saw you what was the first thing I said to you that we could fight no I said you look thick wait but when we were talking earlier weren't you saying he's a [ __ ] and you wanted to get a ring with him and all type [ __ ] what I'm saying right now say it then I just said the [ __ ] ring so we can after this we have a ring 2 feet away and he's a [ __ ] and whatever else you was saying to me yeah he's [ __ ] what about my hair say something about my hair I I already said that at the W shoot that you look like you haven't showered in [ __ ] a week okay all right d hey buddy hey hey what's your long-term play not no but see you guys you guys are making me seem crazy you're out of your mind he Derek Dereck go warm up hit the hit the heavy back H the warm up is almost listen legendary as send location dble PIV go warm up hey hey double pivot sit sit I'm not [ __ ] no I I'll sit and talk but I'm not [ __ ] no sit on the floor walk you want to take my seat hey how much how much of what's going on ch ch how much of what's going on is is a character versus like actual delusion how much is a character yeah decent uh I would say there are times where I know what I have to do for my boxing career to like like we all why is he laughing cuz you said career I beat your [ __ ] boy your [ __ ] [ __ ] bro you know what I I recall you did beat I recall calling steiny saying what the [ __ ] was that buddy I love steiny but I do remember watching that and thinking I wasn't proud of that I was not proud of that from steiny and I wish I wish he would come to the gym I wish he'd get in there I wish he'd train a little bit and I wish he would have a rematch but that's on him I've been trying to get the rematch but he's been ding me do you think Derek won he said I won I thought I thought he won I'd have to rewatch but I do think I come on baby the comments have [ __ ] dragged me for months after that [ __ ] 99% of the comments say I lost so please say it one more time Sean no I said it what I said it's like therapy or something no but to answer your question uh we all know uh uh as Fighters there's a side of promotion stop [ __ ] first of all Gus shut the [ __ ] up our our audio guys uh like can't stop laughing is that the facial his facial hair or is what he's saying bro that's bold of you to talk facial hair bro that's bold of you to I'm not Li you look dirty you look like Jeffrey done training right Jesus I train every day but anyway we know like there's two sides of of promotion as well as the actual athletic competition that is Combat Sports so there are times where I might play up a little bit like hey promoting but let him go let him go all right if you if all if you think I'm all promoting that I'll see you in the [ __ ] ring and I'll knock both you either of you out well um well Jake's a [ __ ] fat [ __ ] right now he weighs like 240 so I got I goty I gotta pick my words wisely like he's Jake's 240 I I know I know but like I'm not going to sit here and pick a fight against somebody that's 240 when I'm se's my weight class when I stopped you in one round like just like but when I was getting started out of come this is where I'm at since then I told him he could have somebody tag team I'm down I'm down to fight anybody in this [ __ ] room not one person in this room I'm the best part about this is like uh right after this we I think you're you're down to do like one round or three minutes right I mean I'd prefer 12 but we okay yeah 12 I mean that my biggest advantage in the ring ring is my cardio I do 12 12 okay so no I have a genuine question so five round I'm not I'm not one have I ever said I'm a UFC fighter no I'm just say we can box I'm just saying that's I'm used to five you want to do three we could do that aren't you trying to be a boxer with your [ __ ] Ryan Garcia call he would knock knock your [ __ ] ass out so quickly it wouldn't be close I'm one and0 pro boxing what are you actually I saw that video I saw video I'm also want to know thank you officially hey they count that's real commiss but uh I didn't mean I didn't mean to take I didn't mean to take over the pot I just wanted to a couple you definitely didn't yeah okay I try I'm trying to help you no we love you go warm up yeah yeah go warm up the bags don't warm up too much though don't get tired how much do you wa right now without Timberlands and jean shorts on high 120 low 13 no without lying though okay that [ __ ] is you think you got you got him one round I think I could beat him I think I can beat him I I think I could handicap myself to three just put on one glove I could do that what do you think actually happens now when you go downstairs and he gets in that ring like what's his plan that's what I don't get about him but that's why it's that's do me a favor that's why he's Cloud it up because love [ __ ] up [ __ ] he's going he's going to try to Yap he's going to try to talk please just go 100% yeah no actually actually please go 100% if he signs a consent form we'll have him no we've already got like multiple consent forms for better media with like death wavers [ __ ] no no no but he needs it he needs that I'll go like 40 no go like 75 Sean I'm I'm going to be honest bro don't even go 20% he's the nice [ __ ] bro don't do that bro you want him to go 100% no no to be honest but just like work with him and then just like maybe just just like a really good punching and then he'll give up 75% uh I'm nervous man I'm shaking for Derek yeah yeah that's good I understand that there a couple flinches if you Flinch hard enough the the wind coming off you will put him down let him walk you down and bait him boom sleeping what's your next upcoming fight a maraba jaaba and when is that uh not nothing yet I'm hoping for September maybe October maybe November maybe December I'm F ready to go baby what if it was next month I wouldn't be ready to go I like I like 10 to 12 weeks 10 to 12 he likes eight I mean I I normally do like 10 yeah just like but I've been super the first few weeks are [ __ ] pre-amps this Camp I'm channeling my Ryan Garcia would you ever do a Ryan Garcia regiment during Camp drink and smoke every night you do a little I I probably yeah I'm not actually doing that for the people out there he's locked in clocked in locked in locked in ready to go yeah May 20th we start but by the time the people see this it'll be uh June or something like that that is crazy you're fighting Mike that you fought Ben asran wrestler good good [ __ ] UFC was really good UF bit Tyron Woodley twice Anderson Silva knockout of the year with Nate Robinson can't forget about deji deji the the the goat do we say Gibb or is that like that's just crazy resume like literally [ __ ] C by way thank you Gib cuz we had a really good party after he knocked you the [ __ ] out who W we're skipping two professional boxers this always no no the recent ones this always happens I'm trying to just think cuz two cuz this is what everybody asked for this is what everybody asked for who who are the two professional boxers you fighted you got to name them Andre August and Ryan Borland go okay people don't people are like fight a pro boxer and then I do and then they're like that was boring as a man of combat he what were 10 and one nine and one nine and one what is your take on his [ __ ] all of his fights and who he's fighting in the competition dude I've been excited as [ __ ] since I started I remember you I remember the first time I watched was the Nate Robinson I watched that one at home and then uh I don't remember what it was after that but I remember watching Ben Asam in Atlanta I think that was the first time we actually met was right after the fight I think we hugged I was like y I picked you up you carried me back to the locker room that it was love at first sight that was crazy actually yeah actually I [ __ ] with him we became best friends like a couple days later you going to leave me hanging no no I would it's my eyebrow but uh yeah no I think he's obviously super skilled I think it's and I I it's inspired me even in the position I'm at UFC World Champ sexy you know what I mean like tall dark handsome TR inspired me just business the business uh side of things that you've done I've always thought putting on massive fight that's why I'm such a huge Conor fan cuz the pay-per-views he's done is so [ __ ] he's been fighting for four years and [ __ ] that he's been doing the massive fights the fights I get excited for there's a few UFC fights the high the big big fights that I get excited for but every time you fought even when uh Logan fought Floyd I was [ __ ] like excited like all fight week so i' I've been inspired from what you've done from a business side from the boxing side they even just start so not late but for a boxer but these boxers start when they're [ __ ] three four years old like Ryan and tank like they're young buck the Tik Tac I sent you of Devon Haney's debut fight yeah it's wild he was fighting a five foot Mexican in a in a bar was it Dante bro if I show you this [ __ ] oh no I did see that I did see that I did see that when you started even seeing that first video fighting Anderson Silva six fights in bro like do you know how insane that is he's one of the greatest correct me if I'm wrong UFC Strikers in history yeah 100% so does that make me one of the greatest UFC Strikers and one of the greatest wrestlers cuz wood but Ben ask was but Nate Diaz is ducking me in MMA oh am crazy I am weak that's a sick fight MMA I I wish it was that would happened right after the boxing same he's actually ducking it which is why it's crazy because he's not he's not in UFC no but we we upped it to 15 million damn that's crazy though that would be a I like Nate Diaz but that would be such a fun buildup he actually doesn't want to do it all Sean how do you genuinely Jake's not here it's me and you in a room actually how do you see that fight going for Jake what MMA him you're not here J for Nate in MMA keep it a bean God it's it's so hard to you're a big [ __ ] right now on what weight would it be5 185 I don't hate I don't I it's not a it's a winable fight for you I really do think that but Nate is so [ __ ] you would have to do what I did against aljo and morab do not let that [ __ ] grab you not that you can't wrestle cuz I know you can wrestle but once he starts grabbing you and doing Jiu-Jitsu if he gets on top his little he likes his little trips it would be hard for you to win I feel like if he if he started grappling just pure Jiu-Jitsu if it let's be real if it goes to the floor is he [ __ ] if he's on his back Nate's not like a super strong guy so if you learn how to like I mean I'm sure you know how to get up to a single legegg stuff like that but then you start getting your neck grabbed I don't know how much Jiu-Jitsu you know I mean Nate's a [ __ ] high Lev black belt um if you could keep it standing 100% there's winnable ways there if he if he went to the ground feel like he might be able to grab your neck no that that's exactly how I feel about it if I don't get guillotined yeah then I win the fight because even if he was on top take your back but even if he was on top of me I would just throw him off of me cuz he's also the weakest puncher I've ever fought like when he was hitting me I was I almost like started laughing I'm I'm not even saying this to talk [ __ ] out of everyone I've sparred in my whole entire life and everyone I fought his punches are even me we I don't think you ever landed a punch on me is that true well that's not true so I don't anyone no I'm literally not even talking [ __ ] which is why I think it's funny that he dropped Connor and [ __ ] cuz it's just like how Conor with like to the ground yeah like with a straight left hand yeah which is crazy like I I'm not just talking [ __ ] when I say that and I've told you I've literally told you this you told me this after the fight yeah I was like he is the weakest puncher I've ever fought in my life who's who's the weakest puncher you've ever you've ever come to face um there I mean there's been so many fights where I later didn't even get hit um uh does that like make you jaded at all when you get into a fight and you don't really get love that [ __ ] I prefer not to get hit at all but like if I was you and I wasn't get hit at all I'd probably work less no no no no I I know I don't get hit because I work that hard so if I didn't work hard I know I'd probably get hit I'm just a lazy [ __ ] so so here you are on top of the world we're launching [ __ ] W going to be a billion dollar business [ __ ] you I always forget uh UFC champ accomplishing all your goals what do you want next uh what are what is the threeyear fiveyear for Sean I I truly do want to get a boxing fight I'm not I'm not super set on that to where like I'm like going to be [ __ ] if it doesn't happen I do think it'll be interesting especially if I go out there knock morab out Ryan does his thing I think there's a [ __ ] sweet fight there if it doesn't happen not that worried about it want to go out there beat morab I'd like to you know if Max Max and Elia fight I would like to fight go move up to 45 fight the winner of that um you know maybe have three to five maybe have a few more kids definitely want another little baby I love kids my fite pump him out shout out to Danny who's your top pick in a boxing fight though if you if you could choose your Ryan now was like the I mean what he after dvon Beat Ryan I was like javante then Ryan goes out there does his thing really though I think Dante do you is that is that not a big [ __ ] leap Ryan like you said before he's been doing this his whole life one thing that's been proven is that the crossover it's it's not a good return Fury he did his thing okay the excep is the exception we've seen it with okay but then Anthony Joshua put his ass t was crazy super night night he was I'm I'm here for big fights like I wanted to get into the UFC and I wanted to make big fights watching Conor versus Floyd I'm like that [ __ ] happened really happened hey you versus Derek that could be as big as Connor in Floyd but no but I I think the craziest [ __ ] about Conor versus Floyd is that overall it was a W for everyone involved so there's certain fights where it just like doesn't matter what happens that's the world we live in yeah I mean UFC told me they said if the if the fight's big enough and it'll make the UFC money they'll do it what means more to you your your your record being pre or the amount of money you're making all right let me ask you something it's about to get real J's drunk Jasper's drunk as [ __ ] y record or money [ __ ] it depends the Gap like like the gap of money if it's like an extra 10 15 20 million but I lose a couple important fights probably not you just take like 150 million I'll be like like [ __ ] my record baby yeah it depends on the gap of money Jake Paul is not here right now just like a Mayweather Conor McGregor you taking that fight ver Jake yeah no he's my buddy I could I mean I don't I don't even no I no funny no there's you know what's funny is always in my Snapchat story once once a day pretty much someone says we knock out Jake Paul like there's every sing all the time for so long people just want to see me get [ __ ] is good though that's like the thing yeah but I'm sensitive it is funny though people [ __ ] love to hate confidence the craziest thing though actually about both of you like I met you very recently like I didn't realize you're as like normal as you are I don't know why I thought you violent like you guys are both like very goofy mellow and stupid and c and and awesome it's like the greatest thing ever like I couldn't believe when I met you you're like one of us like yeah I wouldn't think you're a [ __ ] yeah one of the coolest people in the world for sure yeah but not a lot of people uh can like I don't know we have like a weird it's hard toes Meat Heads I'm like this the this my dog I think it's a little bit of dark humor too it's like some [ __ ] up [ __ ] that we say off camera [ __ ] sometimes but I think it's like there's a certain yeah like that's how my whole group is back home it's like we all just we're all just kind of [ __ ] dumb I'm smart but like they're dumb well someone commented like yo Jake Paul's the dumbest genius in the world and I was just like I say that [ __ ] all the time you wed up the other day and I was like this is the most genius dumbass in the world no jokes Hey Brother chill buddy trying to get me cancelled no what how old are you 23 are you really yeah no you're not he's not is he what do you think think what did you think Oh no you're 267 27 what did you think he was I thought he was older I thought he was like 27 26 yeah a niggaer mature was that ladies you got a boo you got a girl you just be slanging she timeout right now I don't really talk about she don't time out it's a little tricky she not taking care of herself what do you guys think about Tom Brady R you watch it yeah they kept comp panning to you every 5 Seconds bro I swear there's a huge camer sitting there the whole time but it's cool to see Netflix going hard like that cuz they went hard they swing that meat around huha yeah let's pivot yeah just sorry about him I'm drunk man not yeah but but it was it was great it wasar they should have got rid of most of the football players going up there yeah there's a couple ones Ben afflac is that who that was on there that was wild that was so weird that was so weird it was cool to see how [ __ ] less sensitive people are becoming I feel like feel like it's recently like there's a big push back I think people got sick of it we went super super super PC for a long time people were like wait a second we like being able to say what we want to say I saw kill Tony say oh type of crazy [ __ ] on there that watch every [ __ ] Monday you were on kill Tony yeah how old are you actually buddy I'm a comedian Budd full time no yeah I was on that I was nervous as hell though I was like just being it's a live I do podcast once a week like me and Tim do our podcast every [ __ ] week but to be there in front of an audience live it's weird it's a different kind of well so you say Tim but let's let's talk about actually the fact that you get trained by by one of the greatest boxers of all time it's really that's something what's happened like that's crazy working with Canelo as your as your coach that's what I'm saying people don't going to be Ryan but like yeah that is true I never even thought about that for did you even know that this guy proba even know that that orange [ __ ] is nice wait will I get cancelled by the ginger community no you're black oh no my dad my dad's Ginger and I'm I'm like this [ __ ] is ginger bro he be shaving he be shaving his beard and I zoom in zoom in it's it's slightly orange so I'm a quarter ginger on South Park they made fun of Gingers and that [ __ ] made the news I [ __ ] with the ginger people but like y'all [ __ ] you like redhead girls oh yeah was Super Soaker but anyway yeah like y'all [ __ ] is orange and that's okay but back to you one of y'all that's not drunk I got a question cuz this guy clipped out a lot did Tim actually like you guys about him like saying to fight that was yeah that was real Tim always be talking [ __ ] to the like he's been doing that for so long so what happened he just talk I mean he just he Alo the knee's coming Alo you got to shoot Alo watch out for this like he's been saying that since I've been in the UFC like my debut vers terion where he was talking [ __ ] to terion too and uh he just does it every fight but this happened to just be crazy timing to like Tim you got Tim like alre you got to go and like literally he he like that's when he threw that left hand or whatever stepped into Southpaw and uh or stepped into Orthodox and got dropped it was it was funny the timing because he's like Al you got to go I don't I truly don't think that's why that's not why Alo went I bet you could I bet Alo didn't even hear that but Tim's always chirping and stuff but people on the internet are [ __ ] mad about that a lot of them actually like it I'll say majority of people are thinking that's the funniest [ __ ] ever there's a couple [ __ ] that are like you should be banned think it's a fight would you run the alra fight back or one and done never I like that why would I yeah am I supposed to top that you know what I'm saying I got love for Alo we had him on the show and he he seems like a good dude I actually don't mind Alo I does that ever happen where like you'll have a personal relationship with someone personal runin with them and it's all great but then now all of a sudden you have to fight each other I've never had I've not of running with someone that's been like uh more than like I've ran into aljo morab at the UFC I'm like hey what's up talk to him a little bit you know nothing no ill will um but I haven't had like a run with someone I actually lik them mhm and then at the fight them so you're not friends with any any other UFC fighters oh I have a there's there's a couple guys in my in my weight class that I train with at the lab that are like climbing the r uh ladders what happened with uh the 125 pounder I I don't even know his name and I'm not I'm just not like yeah what's his name I Alexander pania bro this story is actually kind of funny so 2016 I think it was it was like 3 and0 4 and0 and I was still fighting at like I fought at 125 not too long before that I fought at like 130 which is in a weight class was like so I wasn't like a 155 like I am now I was probably like 14 back then and uh Henry cejudo comes in I'm three or four and0 at the point at this point it comes in with this kid Alexander PTO just won The Ultimate Fighter I think he's got his UFC debut or it's his second UFC fight he's a couple weeks out from his fight I'm [ __ ] the night before me and Tim ripping bongs like hanging out being goofballs and [ __ ] so the next morning so we brought him in for sparring hry sudo brings in Alexander you're 4-0 he's King [ __ ] he he's just won The Ultimate Fighter and so they write the names on on the board who who you're sparring I'm like oh [ __ ] I got Alexander Pantoja versus me for one round one round he has three rounds so you write one one name then usually you you spar with one guy then they go out you spar with a fresh guy they go out spar with the fresh guy that's usually how it works so my name was just up there for one round that's it we Spar one round I didn't know anything about him cuz I I didn't really watch it like that 25 I don't really watch 25ers like that but somebody's like oh [ __ ] that's he a black belt he just won The Ultimate Fighter I was like oh [ __ ] I got to [ __ ] Focus up here first round boom Dro him with a liver kick and I wasn't going to post I record all my rounds I have so many sparring rounds like I wasn't going to post it was and for some reason I don't know why he would talk [ __ ] and bring it up cuz I literally I don't know you know know I don't know if you know how it works but you finish a guy the fight's over right no no did he um so I finished him the first round he hit him boom with the liver I posted the video yesterday and I've had it for a long time I didn't want to post it CU you don't post sparring like that but he just kept bringing it up so boom finished him first round um then uh after the first round round I go to walk out and Henry's over there crying box of Kleenex just like [ __ ] wiping his tears crying we want you for a second round so mad that this little like I was nobody just finished his dude he's in the UFC he's supposed to be the man finish him in the first round so Henry's crying saying he wants another round um so I piece him up again in the second round and I'm I'm dying at this point my lungs are burning I'm not in shape for fight I I'm nowhere near in Camp for a fight and I my lungs are hurting and uh Henry again crying blowing his nose and like I want you for a third and Benson comes in Benson Henderson absolute Legend comes in and was yelling cuz that's his it was the his gym the MMA lab we don't let people come in our gym and make us tired and blah blah blah and I'm [ __ ] just just huffing and puffing I just got done work in this dude for 10 minutes finished him in the first round did I say that liver kick um we'll put the footage I have the foot yeah it's right there insert the footage so third round come out boom piece him up again and he's so I don't know why he keeps bringing up this bringing this up in the media I think it's because people ask him but I don't know why he doesn't just say yeah yeah no no I don't want to talk about it he keeps saying like he's like oh I got in I found his range and [ __ ] I'm like bro you you stopped him in one round stopped him in round one and let him live and continue to fight for round two these delusional uh like wild people are weirdos but the reason I posted cuz he kept bringing it up exactly wait so is he the champ now at 125 yeah okay but why does he still want to talk [ __ ] to you if you got [ __ ] up that's what I'm saying I don't know either either you drop to 125 and get that no I can't drop to 125 that's too much now you're a thick [ __ ] I am a thick but yeah I SP I think it's important for up and cominging Spar uh fighters to record their rounds and watch their rounds not for that this reason you know but just to I've improve so much watching my sparring y I have thousands of rounds maybe not thousands hundreds of rounds from 10 years ago on my on my computer of uh it's like NFL team is watching footage the time [ __ ] 100% got to watch that [ __ ] that's I I have every single round recorded and and again I I don't post sparring either exactly you know put in a highlight video make a vlog boom we're sparring people but it's never like [ __ ] up your guy yeah exactly but Mike Perry honestly like what he's been doing is pretty Fu he went to Bare knuckle that [ __ ] just meant for him bare knuckle fighting it's crazy different going crazy he's doing good he's [ __ ] undefeated over there he's beating some really good guys stay over here [ __ ] [ __ ] only place that you should be getting tickets from is game time.co it's it's the only place I go it is the only place you can possibly go they have 110% price match guarantee that's what we use to get our tickets for the NBA Finals you can get $20 off your first order go to gametime.co JJ a $20 off your first order they're doing a deal specifically for y'all and you could see where your tickets are before you buy them seeing the seats they have all of the these great policies last 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platform there is Mike Paul versus Jake Tyson here's my official prediction tell us and even if even if it's against me like it's not it's not I do think you're going to beat Mike Tyson uh it's crazy that I even saying that out loud right now cuz you're fighting Mike Tyson it's [ __ ] crazy even just when we were walking down the the street today people all genders all ages knew you were fighting Mike Tyson it's such a massive fights live on Netflix which is [ __ ] crazy it's in a stadium which is [ __ ] crazy it is crazy I believe in you I see what you I see what you're doing I see you know that you believe in yourself Mike Tyson is uh hasn't fought in however long it's been so for him to just come up and get a fight be I I'm sure is going to be in as good a shape as he possibly could be in but it's just you know it's it's it's it's not his time right now I love Mike Tyson I never actually met him but I love Mike Tyson I do think Jake's gonna get the job done and I do think eight rounds eight two-minute rounds eight two-minute rounds I believe I believe you could put them away in the later rounds you know five six seven eight I do think you could put it put him down which is crazy to even [ __ ] think you rap yeah that's fire I'm just lazy and inconsistent that's not a w no that sh it is not you start using Brandon yell at him every day but cuz you can actually spit that's fire no but but people know him now from like podcasting they don't know he's a rapper and hurts his soul J sick name Lil jizz what J JZ that's good that's good you should switch your [ __ ] I switch my [ __ ] from come Master to kill Jas bro honestly though that's I think singing rapping spitting is one of the things that if I could switch talents be doing something like that that's good or twerking I ain't going to lie you shook that [ __ ] earlier I got a I got a thing on me you that [ __ ] wiggle a little bit let's let's pivot though cuz yep hit a pivot uh yeah do we have a speaker should we play Jasper's new song or something you got a new one I thought you were lazy some new [ __ ] go ahead play on your phone just put it in the speaker put it in the mic too this the [ __ ] I'm dropping when I'm Indie that sound decent I'm not rapping either I'm yapping that's not going to get you drunk yo I made this beat that's crazy I like the way you look I won't lie you got something I need you my with a fly girl like you doing with no guy a little sh don't really go outside I'm not crazy right place and right time you all smiles and pretty light brown [Music] [Music] like that better if I forget you but I just can't time saying do better and I'm sure you can find that guy that's worth all right cut it cut it cut it that's that's enough that's enough that's enough that's enough for real can't give the whole thing it's not out yet yeah hey good [ __ ] that's fire I'll be rapping though but that's some pop [ __ ] just cuz I can do it so why are you consistent cuz I'm lazy and jaded and and spoiled yeah it's unfortunate maam shout out to the homies for a lot of talented people out there that just are yeah don't smoke crack yo also there there is a parallel there don't do don't do that there's a parallel with the same thing he's talking about I think Fighters probably where it's like you could have all the talent in the world he's got that's why I get so [ __ ] mad at him it's cuz he has all the talent in the world really I get more pissed off than he gets and he could be a superstar but he just is lazy he doesn't put the work in he's not he's not strategic and it is hard when you got when you live in a crib in Puerto Rico right you got chefs and [ __ ] and you fly private with me yeah that's it that's it bro that's it you got to you got get paychecks and [ __ ] y'all got to evict me that's not a bad idea honestly I think we talked about it let's make I was I'm H we had a conversation but I just can't I can't because I love you so much I need you but then I'll probably be more like need you y yeah I guarante and then we you would still have to like fly in once a week to to do the pods and it would be resentment and then I I'll go out like and I'll try to start shooting at y'all oh my God I guarantee I would be in the position I'm in if I if I had money and like had already made it like financially had [ __ ] I wouldn't have made it that's why people think I'm crazy but CC the other side of it is like boom right so I'm from com California same hey shout out my [ __ ] yeah man I was homeless for the first half of my life mom's a drug addict dad's a gang member I've never had anything in my life right and my whole life has been music I dropped out in ninth grade I was like I'm going to make music my dad kicks me out he's like you can't live under this roof like be more like your brothers my brothers are [ __ ] star students one got a full ride scholarship loser all all type of [ __ ] nerd ass [ __ ] all those [ __ ] are fat and unemploy now one dropped out of school a full rise scholarship and is just sitting at home right so boom from having nothing to like me saying I'm going to risk everything that I have in my life to become a music artist and it works I get to a certain place and I'm like damn I did exactly I hit a ceiling right so it's like now I had to recalibrate he got a big record deal and then and then like use I crashed out and became a m addict for four four days a week for 30 like 90 days oh it's not bad but then I moved cuz my homeboy was like you need to move and I was like nah [ __ ] that I made a million I ain't going to move I'm going to maintain this lifestyle I'm a junkie but I'm rich yep I crashed out and was like yeah I need to move lost 60 lbs went to Puerto Rico locked in recalibrated and now I'm ready to be but that's that's here's the problem we run into now is that you've recalibrated and now it's still it's been 6 months the album's supposed to be 6 months ago and we're still waiting for the album that's the problem and that's what you got to work on never too late though let's start it let's get because you're vitamin deficient right yeah yeah cuz like a lot of people can't think straight when they're vitamin deficient and all that a week ago kind of elaborated on that so yeah this isn't therapy um I got shout out Suzie right right huh Susie but she's hot is she not you think my therapist you guys got the same one I could pee and vape on this podcast I got to go pee go pee I could pee yeah I mean I think we I think we end the episode because uh let's wrap it up you can get W available at Walmart anyway if you walk into Walmart whether you with your mom your daddy you by yourself you go in that [ __ ] men body care aisle you buy that and comment down below what you thought of the episode for um us being brain fried over and uh jper but Buzz also comment cuz this coming out when the product releases comment your favorite scent and sent $10,000 right no I'm send you 1,000 I ain't 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you have better day with a record of no wins no losses I beat ste's [ __ ] out no anything he is 5'7 120 lbs lost in the mile to better JoJo but he's still delusional in his fighting career and to my left in the winning Corner sponsored by W sugar sha Ali The Undefeated UFC champion of the world it's time to fight bring it to the center we already spoke about the rules in the locker room beforehand give me your glove give me your hand touch gloves I want a clean fair fight no no hits below the waist back to your Corners time you ready judge you ready and fight [Music] [Applause] I'm out of balance or something oh do Dodge that [ __ ] hold on hold on hold on hold [ __ ] come on come on just oh my God one back of the head no no no back of the head four ref didn't see it five six me in the eyes Walk This Way Walk This Way for me he's running Walk This Way for me my car run all right and we're in in that right that's called all right time time time one two that was a that was a slip four 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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXPZ1KzdpsY	4,103	mXPZ1KzdpsY	2024-06-20 00:00:00	well well well ladies and gentlemen do we have a special episode for you today none other than sugar Shan om Ali the current UFC bantamweight champion a legend in his own right this episode was off the cusp we were a little turned up Jasper was really really drunk so we weren't really prepared for this at all the conversations definitely got wild and obviously as you guys have seen over maybe the past week or so we launched a new company called w am men's carine in Walmart this company is so near and dear to my heart and I partnered with Shawn to bring this Vision to life amongst other celebrities artists and athletes that we are announcing over the next couple of weeks here get your w at Walmart it is very very very very very good stuff and yes you heard the news I am fighting Mike Perry on July 20th it is going down I'm still fighting Mike Tyson November 15th that is happening but I'm staying active knocking out Mike Perry on July 20th and I'm excited for y'all to listen to this episode and he the vision of w how it all came together and how Shawn got involved and then everything to do with Shawn's career this podcast has been a long time coming but prepare yourself for some idiocracy per usual uh this is [ __ ] with Jake Paul we have a secret handshake check it out AC let me get that stop playing mean yeah we created that because we actually have so many things to get into here this has been a long time coming Jasper did bring up something and the reason W was created was because the other products in the category had harmful dyes parabens sulfates hormone disruptors and so we wanted to create the better for you vitamin infused product and and Sean's a co-owner just signed today yesterday for the show but we we'll get into all of that we we've been you know bringing sea on for like we've been talking for like a month and a half yes sir yes sir um it is currently May we've been doing a lot of shoots this podcast will probably come out at post W launch you can get I'm so drunk I'm sorry y'all you can get it in uh Walmart every Walmart you in Paca Walmart get it in you in Pensacola it's in Walmart in Kentucky Walmart Walmart so basically uh we we brought in the greatest people in the world to help build W and Sean is one of those people but dialing everything back we will get into the company the body washes how this all came about but uh we've been wanting to do this podcast and thanks for joining us BR hey guys hey thanks for joining us right did you uh yeah I did you sh for an hour bro did you did you do do we know do we set the stage of the day and the fact that Jasper's slash right now okay cool y drunk is a [ __ ] y like double drunk yep yep yep you drunk yeah all that so um but just winding everything back uh I think we've been friends for a long time in fact you were the first guest on this show oh [ __ ] crazy Zoom crazy that's right that's right that's right the first ever episode you zoomed in and that's crazy we're thankful we're thankful for our friendship and it's pretty cool that now we're here again today uh getting less views than before and that's fire that's it congratulations less views we're not we're not it was it was a joke it was a joke if you watching this please like and comment cuz we falling off right now but man by the time this comes out you're going to be getting ready for me RAB how do you say his name I don't remember morab is iTab or or I don't know me that's got to be it me but you got to say it with the emphasis look meab mirab meab meab there you go there you go so yeah I should be getting ready hopefully I ain't got nothing scheduled hopefully uh you know Uncle Dana will call me say hey buddy you want to fight in in here and there and there and then I'm d b boom and that that's how that works what's up with everybody on your body though everybody talking [ __ ] even people youat I wanted to bring up yeah and he's like saying like he's trying to post about you even yesterday it is weird but when you concuss someone you know what I just say they don't think as well as they used to so I think he's still concussed and he's a little confused because he's talking [ __ ] still he not in his right mind because I can just throw up another post go because it's a throwback Thursday it's a throwback Friday do you think do you think people don't respect you enough cuz I I see that as your friend an unbiased like they just see social media and podcasts and the the hair and stuff like that and then they just sh week but I [ __ ] with you I appr that um I don't think it is well you can't you know I think it's fine I think you're jealous I ain't going to lie I got some inches under here let's smell that hair you can smell my [ __ ] must who I do think I feel a little bit disrespected as the champ but I think that last fight against Che kind of you know shut a little bit of people up canny go five rounds Cheeto beat me before the Alo fight um shut a lot of people up canny grapple didn't have to Grapple cuz he couldn't take me down yeah Alo couldn't take you down I think that was the biggest thing where they were like yo that's his weakness like yeah wrestle him down and then he just proved everyone wrong that's what's so interesting about this morab fight is he's supposedly well he is he's [ __ ] good at wrestling he's really really good at wrestling he's boring as [ __ ] and no one will there won't be one comment saying yeah right he's actually kind of fun not one person I'm com won I'm com you can I ask you something would you put yourself in your own top five Strikers in the UFC oh I'm yeah yo easily who's your Mount Rushmore strikker well I I mean I would unbiasedly I would put him as number one because adna is in like top three but he also like got beat by put that [ __ ] down boy he did uh bro I'm up there I'm up there Max is really good Max super his striking that's a good top five there that's four me Max Elia adaga uh I'm sure I'm missing some your with a one would it be that's that's a minus one Mount rmore is four yeah but I only got four but if you throw the five in it's a plus one isn't there only four yeah but but you ready to throw the five up I'm four all right that's my more but yeah once again uh this is a [ __ ] ass podcast so we apologize hey but something something you just touched on you talked about Fighters being fun and interesting how much and you're you're a superstar how much of you being a superstar how much of any fighter being a superstar comes down to them being fun and interesting as you are and how much of it comes down to their actual fighting good question uh well who's a super who who obviously Connor comes to mind I think he's he's a character he's fun he's interesting who else comes to mind is like a superstar I would say Izzy gives that off I think he's an interesting guy other than that there's not like a ton of fun like Ryan Garcia is doing a really good job right now of being [ __ ] interesting being a character uh I think that's fentel I think it's drugs as well I wouldn't deny that but he's still making people interested in Ryan versus Devon Haney was an interesting fight not because Devon Haney that dude's boring as [ __ ] you think he did them roids no I don't think Ryan did I think Devon needs to take that L he being a [ __ ] about I think the craziest [ __ ] you said to me and like I don't even know if we want to put this in there or bring it up but we we can always remove it but uh because of your your situation with the ostarine and you said to me like and it I like fully felt your energy you're like I swear on my daughter's life I never did that and you got popped for it yeah same thing happened uh to Ryan right now he popped for aost the low super low level a some [ __ ] like a trillionth of a gr the same thing happened to me uh so when that came out with Ryan like I truly truly didn't believe he took anything because it was the same [ __ ] and it happens to a lot of [ __ ] ostarine happens to how does that happen it's called the tainted supplement so if you're taking anything that has protein in it that's not third party tested uh could not just protein any kind of supplement that's not third party tested it's either NSF or there's a bunch of different third party tests but if you're not if you're taking something that doesn't have that there's chances there could be something in it but austram people pop for that all the time my case was not that big of a deal cuz I wasn't as huge of a star as I am now but it still was like a big deal because of my name the reason it's going so crazy right now is because Ryan G is a superstar so people are freaking out but it happens to a lot of athletes I just before we move past it I just on that Superstar topic how is that is that Superstar factor that that someone like you has someone like Ryan has someone like Connor has is it something you're born with or is it is it a practice is it something you can learn and do you sit back and like think like oh how can I go viral today how can I I think it's both I think you have to want to be a superstar there's some guys in the UFC like I want to make more money I want this I want that but they don't really want to be a superstar you you got to want it you got to you got to have some kind of vision a long time before well and and also like who you are as a person you have to have that like Fire Within still though like before you got into want famous I want to be in the NFL I want to be NBA I wanted to be a [ __ ] athlete when I was young was instilled I was just for whatever reason I wanted to make it when I was young I'm from H in Montana like small ass can I ask you something what's your opinion on like the take b nickel takes like where he's like super friendly and humble and like I think he's a sweet ass [ __ ] they love him but like bro that [ __ ] pisses me off I think that [ __ ] is cool too n like you're a hum like [ __ ] talk your [ __ ] you're what 670 like bro talk your [ __ ] like it it kind of bores me no I get yeah I mean that's that's some people's opinion is like he's too nice too humble too that but he's being himself um but he's also super young in the sport I think he and he's still pretty what is he 28 you're in a sport of War if I was playing like [ __ ] Cricket I would be like yeah like but that's that's the thing is for for for a character like him what it seems like is that's what he's in is the sport of war and that's it he's not in the sport of entertainment he's a nice ass sweetheart get there is some people that that understand both sides of things but I also have respect for and I see when someone's that's strictly in the sport of if I play chess with you I'm going to be like good game and I'm going to shake your hand I talk [ __ ] be F ass to a PO it I'm going to be like [ __ ] you you need to get better at whatever you're doing dial dialing it back a little bit um to the aost stream thing I think it's like what do you think about Conor tweeting still at like 3:00 a.m. like coked out he he he he sent shots at me and Ryan talking [ __ ] but it's it's crazy coming from Connor who literally got out of the usada pool to do steroid like legit steroids so it's kind of wild and I was the biggest Connor fan for a long time in the last couple weeks ever since he sent that wasn't even a couple weeks ago probably a week ago I've been trying to hate him I've been trying to be like [ __ ] you Connor but I can't I love Connor I it's like I am excited for his fight coming up I'm excited I want you know I'm all about it what's the fight is it Chandler Chandler in June it's going to be big they just been trying to do it for a long time so I didn't know if it still still I think officially I think it's I think I think the craziest part about it is what like eight weeks before a fight that he's still like coked and drunk out of his mind who you got though who that's a good it is crazy that he still like he tweeted that deleted like 20 minutes later he was definitely [ __ ] up on well that's what I was going to say we can't just Grace past that do you is that that's a that's a bold thing to say do you you know he's on coke is that a is that are you [ __ ] gills I don't know anything but I know for certain that he's brother like look at the time of the tweets and look at what he's saying like also and he's like known for this simar tweets yeah yeah I don't know just manic brother I think he is I do think Ryan is I think he when he said he was playing into it a little bit I I think he's kind of using that I think he's [ __ ] crazy what what what would happen if you and Ryan boxed that's I mean there's only one way to find out he has a lot better chances of beating me in a boxing match than he does in a real fight keep up I do I I [ __ ] I truly believe in myself that's how I got to the [ __ ] position I'm in right now I can box I can throw hands um I don't think it'd be easy by any means I do think it's possible I beat him I'm not saying my my odds are great but I do believe I could beat Ryan Bo if there was anybody you could box for your first boxing match debut who are you Bo give an easy fight give me Deon Haney you give [Laughter] me honest answer uh I mean if we're I I would say Floyd if I Pi if I could sit here and pick who I box first boxing fight I pick Floyd because it would be the biggest most crazy most legendary fight maybe not most legendary some people for me okay but outside of that on a skill based level oh I I could hang with some good [ __ ] pro boxers I'm undefeated in boxing you think you think if you and uh ilot boxed that' be ilot is very very [ __ ] skilled boxing that's an interesting question so who what what professional boxer would you equate your PA Mike Tyson I know of Devon Haney now because Ryan Garcia beat him uh dvon Davis he's really short I know him um maybe smacking [ __ ] up though he does he that little guy he can't he can't ride roll coasters though that is true so there's a there's a tradeoff like Cruz fight he was riding a roller coaster no like I'm talking about like at the fair oh no you know like there there's a trade-off in life you know where things get weird it's like it's like yo he's really good but you can't even just hit Dante fan brother can't even ride the top not a Dante fan that's not what I'm wait what did what did I say to say I'm not a you didn't say I mean I don't think he knows that it's a short joke I don't think he picked up on you want me tell him I was joking shut the [ __ ] up I get I say that was a joke I'm what are you trying to say I'm but are you trying to insinuate that I'm short no honestly you're probably what five you're 5'9 you're like 5' seven and a half stop doing stop doing it stop doing that cuz [ __ ] is going to see this and be like he's 5'6 actually if you watching this and you think I'm 5'6 and you want to try me in person please any [ __ ] who see me out I'm punching your [ __ ] out I'm like 5'9 on a good day when when I'm lying to women I'm 5'10 for sure who's gonna ID me I'm wearing forces I'm a [ __ ] liar all right so now for the truth jakee he's like what like he's 5 No but don't do that bro all right all right we won't we'll cut that out like yeah n don't cut it out n don't see me and see these but you know dvon is 5'5 legit that's cool bro I know but is that not short just be honest is that five five short for a grown man for a grown man is that short you can be a fan I'm not I'm a fan of javante and he's five that's a little little bro all right the joke went over his head anyways so the short joke [ __ ] is trying to play me like I'm short no no no we're we're not we're not you're [ __ ] tall all right let's pivot yeah so um SI yeah sh shout out to the shout out to the pivot but but yeah like Jasper's a little riled up things are on edge he's a little he's a little turned up it's been a long day a long two days we've been shooting uh because we have a new [ __ ] company did we say we talk about that yet I we said in the beginning raise your arms up [ __ ] goed [ __ ] goed shout out to w a fun few days it's been a fun few days days you're going to see the content rolling out um but you speaking of but Ruby Rose did a good job oh my God I wanted to bite that M listen anyway if you're near wmart if you're watching this right now I don't give a [ __ ] what you're doing you could be taking care of your kid you could be taking care of your elderly parents [ __ ] them go to Walmart June 1st Nationwide I don't care if you in Pensacola you in Massachusetts all in places that sound [ __ ] stupid there's a Walmart there and you go there it's a better for you product vitamin ifuse number [ __ ] one yeah no basically I I think dialing back like the business story of it because you're also like a very smart businessman intellectual doing everything you do in and outside of the Ring which a lot of people don't have which contributes to you being uh the biggest in my opinion the biggest UFC star um but yeah we we basically I guess this is the podcast where we tell people where W came from but um we started building this company like a year and a half ago and really saw how all these other companies like as we move into better for you products and less harmful products we saw how the leaders in the space didn't have the best formulas didn't have the best manufacturing had all of these harmful substances in it and we're also brands from when I was like 9 years old I don't want to list names but they're still like having all the Shelf space in stores and I was just like this is wild like this is boring this is lame the the the we need something new we need something that's better uh males have vitamin uh deficiencies like crazy especially with magnesium Jasper just can't get enough of it uh especially with magnesium um and biotin is in the body wash uh vitamin E one two of the best vitamins for your skin and hair um but as The Story Goes long story short we we come up with this brand that represents so many things um but I think winning in everyday life whether you're the valedictorian whether you are the high school jock whether you're philanthropist now you have a product that you can embody and wear every single day that's increasing your vitamin intake that is less harmful to you that's where the idea came from and just being the winning formula in category uh went to Walmart pitched them the whole idea they [ __ ] loved it helped us build the brand even and come up with the scent profiles and all the things that are the the most popular um and this has been something I've wanted to do for so long we had to bring in the best people to be a part of it the winners in their category and that's number one Numero Uno sha Ali here um and he instantly saw the vision and already in the past couple of days it's been like super fun filming all the content behind yeah I was pumped when you [ __ ] called me appreciate you thinking of me and uh excited to help grow this business [ __ ] it's needed it's needed we're going to take over the whole bathroom you know tooed if you [ __ ] with the dogs and cows and chickens dog in you I know what I got that dog in me and I use it so be dog free baby am I missing anything with that no I think that was great the one the one thing I would touch on and you did in a way but it's it is body wash it is body spray it is deodorant but it also is there's an ethos that stands behind this brand which is the ethos that you stand for and it's the ethos that you stand for and the ethos that you stand for and the one that I stand for if I say ethos again I'm GNA start stumbling over my words but it's it's it's like you said it it doesn't the winners in life aren't just you you're on a big stage in life you're you're you're crushing it in every aspect financially you're a star you're leading your sport that's awesome on every [ __ ] level it's it's an encouragement to to young men all around the world to [ __ ] get up off their ass and get sh it don't matter if you score high on a test you whatever the [ __ ] it is that you do well maybe not so it matters what the [ __ ] you do but it also doesn't matter what the [ __ ] you do anybody is a winner as long as you put in the work and you have the will to win and I love it I I would say that's wrong I would say that not anybody is a winner and I think that's something that the brand also stands for like you really got to win you got to as you have the will to win no I'm just saying I think that's an important point cuz we live in a world today where a lot of people think everybody can be a winner that's not true if you Los you might be a loser and if you're a loser the good news is there's a hidden l in the logo actually we'll trace it for you with our graphic design team there's a hidden l in the logo because and I I I wanted to make sure that was was a thing because the biggest loss of my life turned out to be the biggest W in my life and I always had the saying like two L's make a w and when I lost to Tommy Fury it was embarrassing all these things but I realized I wasn't focused I wasn't as locked in as I could be the team around me from a boxing standpoint wasn't good I was having personal issues with relationships and all of these things that I had to shed and grow from and I grew into this new and completely different person but I wouldn't have done that if I didn't lose on the biggest stage possible and I think that was part of the ethos ethos ethos ethos of the brand was to encourage people that in their lowest moments to turn those into into their biggest W's eventually when Jake just said that the biggest loss of his life ended up being the biggest W of his life you said same yeah yeah same what what was that story for supposedly lost for lost to Cheeto back in 2020 August it it was I mean it sucked at the time but I it didn't suck too bad because I was like okay I didn't lose because I you know and it was different I wasn't I mean I was focused everything went good training camp everything was good but I was like that sucks I'm goingon to get that back someday when the time is right and then my last fight two two months ago in Miami headline I'm the champ defending my belt against that same guy how rewarding was that three and a half years later August three and a half years later boom beat his ass as a fan of yours it made it so sweet because of all the doubters that constantly like put you down and didn't believe in you and said he was going to destroy you and then you he literally like you embarrass him that was a performance of a life you embarrassed the [ __ ] out of him and I think that's literally a prime example of turning l l into into a w and I really that's what that's where the hidden l in the brand in the logo is um and representing that every single day when you see these products in your bathroom and when we say we have a saying it's not just a product it's a lifestyle absolutely trademarked Incorporated All Rights Reserved 2024 brother uh but but yeah man it's it's an honor to have you a part of this and uh we we really made what we think are the best products on the market from the body wash being exfoliating vitamin infused to the body spray what we found out is a lot of these fragrances like you get like these high-end designer brands that have like $500 colognes turns out it only cost them a dollar to make that and they're literally making like $499 on top of that so we had a fine fragrance house is what these places are called and we got the super expensive scents and gave it to people to what they're worth like we're not trying to these products are super super affordable and I think it's so funny because that's the world we live in where like you just label something and get like a European girl to go this is one of the lower priced men's care products on the market yeah if I'm not mistaken and it's it's the $500 fragrance in the affordable bottle because we want everyone we've been using a body wash in the past two days since we got the samples after the shoot and I personally want to say I got the in there you could bleep it out whatever you want to do W's winning n b genuinely that's that's the saying is the it's winning formula cuz it really is like it really is if if we're going to call our company [ __ ] W it has to be the best we the winners winning product indeed indeed winning customers all that type of [ __ ] indeed better Derek today he's just got a punch I'm not Li I talked to him before he left he wants to punch you up bro he's got a punchable face I like him though it's weird it's like God I like that guy but I want [ __ ] KO pick him up and like it's okay boom one more to the liing me earlier and I'm just letting you know don't shoot the messenger on God he said he wants to get in the ring with you I can call him really he oh yeah he he you want to call him yeah where is he at is wait uh no call no call he's coming up oh um he's talking smack he said he actually wants a spar I swear to God he said he wants to get percentage should I go you guys I literally out let that's crazy timeing saying talk [ __ ] to my face if you're going to talk [ __ ] that's crazy timing what were you saying they were telling me you want to get in the ring and Spar bit or they didn't say Spar they said fight yeah I'm down to do either but uh yeah no I'm just sick of the [ __ ] [ __ ] you've been saying on your podcast uh you called me you made fun of my weight and you called me gay I did not no I well okay okay you said that he wouldn't ever say that what you got to say what your chest that's what I just [ __ ] said bro I he was like oh if I if stand on it you talking to him you talking to him you ain't talking to me my assistant Sono would would piece you he's never boxed a day he never I'm here to fight your video I'm here to fight you what did I what was the first thing I said to you when when I saw you what was the first thing I said to you that we could fight no I said you look thick wait but when we were talking earlier weren't you saying he's a [ __ ] and you wanted to get a ring with him and all type [ __ ] what I'm saying right now say it then I just said the [ __ ] ring so we can after this we have a ring 2 feet away and he's a [ __ ] and whatever else you was saying to me yeah he's [ __ ] what about my hair say something about my hair I I already said that at the W shoot that you look like you haven't showered in [ __ ] a week okay all right d hey buddy hey hey what's your long-term play not no but see you guys you guys are making me seem crazy you're out of your mind he Derek Dereck go warm up hit the hit the heavy back H the warm up is almost listen legendary as send location dble PIV go warm up hey hey double pivot sit sit I'm not [ __ ] no I I'll sit and talk but I'm not [ __ ] no sit on the floor walk you want to take my seat hey how much how much of what's going on ch ch how much of what's going on is is a character versus like actual delusion how much is a character yeah decent uh I would say there are times where I know what I have to do for my boxing career to like like we all why is he laughing cuz you said career I beat your [ __ ] boy your [ __ ] [ __ ] bro you know what I I recall you did beat I recall calling steiny saying what the [ __ ] was that buddy I love steiny but I do remember watching that and thinking I wasn't proud of that I was not proud of that from steiny and I wish I wish he would come to the gym I wish he'd get in there I wish he'd train a little bit and I wish he would have a rematch but that's on him I've been trying to get the rematch but he's been ding me do you think Derek won he said I won I thought I thought he won I'd have to rewatch but I do think I come on baby the comments have [ __ ] dragged me for months after that [ __ ] 99% of the comments say I lost so please say it one more time Sean no I said it what I said it's like therapy or something no but to answer your question uh we all know uh uh as Fighters there's a side of promotion stop [ __ ] first of all Gus shut the [ __ ] up our our audio guys uh like can't stop laughing is that the facial his facial hair or is what he's saying bro that's bold of you to talk facial hair bro that's bold of you to I'm not Li you look dirty you look like Jeffrey done training right Jesus I train every day but anyway we know like there's two sides of of promotion as well as the actual athletic competition that is Combat Sports so there are times where I might play up a little bit like hey promoting but let him go let him go all right if you if all if you think I'm all promoting that I'll see you in the [ __ ] ring and I'll knock both you either of you out well um well Jake's a [ __ ] fat [ __ ] right now he weighs like 240 so I got I goty I gotta pick my words wisely like he's Jake's 240 I I know I know but like I'm not going to sit here and pick a fight against somebody that's 240 when I'm se's my weight class when I stopped you in one round like just like but when I was getting started out of come this is where I'm at since then I told him he could have somebody tag team I'm down I'm down to fight anybody in this [ __ ] room not one person in this room I'm the best part about this is like uh right after this we I think you're you're down to do like one round or three minutes right I mean I'd prefer 12 but we okay yeah 12 I mean that my biggest advantage in the ring ring is my cardio I do 12 12 okay so no I have a genuine question so five round I'm not I'm not one have I ever said I'm a UFC fighter no I'm just say we can box I'm just saying that's I'm used to five you want to do three we could do that aren't you trying to be a boxer with your [ __ ] Ryan Garcia call he would knock knock your [ __ ] ass out so quickly it wouldn't be close I'm one and0 pro boxing what are you actually I saw that video I saw video I'm also want to know thank you officially hey they count that's real commiss but uh I didn't mean I didn't mean to take I didn't mean to take over the pot I just wanted to a couple you definitely didn't yeah okay I try I'm trying to help you no we love you go warm up yeah yeah go warm up the bags don't warm up too much though don't get tired how much do you wa right now without Timberlands and jean shorts on high 120 low 13 no without lying though okay that [ __ ] is you think you got you got him one round I think I could beat him I think I can beat him I I think I could handicap myself to three just put on one glove I could do that what do you think actually happens now when you go downstairs and he gets in that ring like what's his plan that's what I don't get about him but that's why it's that's do me a favor that's why he's Cloud it up because love [ __ ] up [ __ ] he's going he's going to try to Yap he's going to try to talk please just go 100% yeah no actually actually please go 100% if he signs a consent form we'll have him no we've already got like multiple consent forms for better media with like death wavers [ __ ] no no no but he needs it he needs that I'll go like 40 no go like 75 Sean I'm I'm going to be honest bro don't even go 20% he's the nice [ __ ] bro don't do that bro you want him to go 100% no no to be honest but just like work with him and then just like maybe just just like a really good punching and then he'll give up 75% uh I'm nervous man I'm shaking for Derek yeah yeah that's good I understand that there a couple flinches if you Flinch hard enough the the wind coming off you will put him down let him walk you down and bait him boom sleeping what's your next upcoming fight a maraba jaaba and when is that uh not nothing yet I'm hoping for September maybe October maybe November maybe December I'm F ready to go baby what if it was next month I wouldn't be ready to go I like I like 10 to 12 weeks 10 to 12 he likes eight I mean I I normally do like 10 yeah just like but I've been super the first few weeks are [ __ ] pre-amps this Camp I'm channeling my Ryan Garcia would you ever do a Ryan Garcia regiment during Camp drink and smoke every night you do a little I I probably yeah I'm not actually doing that for the people out there he's locked in clocked in locked in locked in ready to go yeah May 20th we start but by the time the people see this it'll be uh June or something like that that is crazy you're fighting Mike that you fought Ben asran wrestler good good [ __ ] UFC was really good UF bit Tyron Woodley twice Anderson Silva knockout of the year with Nate Robinson can't forget about deji deji the the the goat do we say Gibb or is that like that's just crazy resume like literally [ __ ] C by way thank you Gib cuz we had a really good party after he knocked you the [ __ ] out who W we're skipping two professional boxers this always no no the recent ones this always happens I'm trying to just think cuz two cuz this is what everybody asked for this is what everybody asked for who who are the two professional boxers you fighted you got to name them Andre August and Ryan Borland go okay people don't people are like fight a pro boxer and then I do and then they're like that was boring as a man of combat he what were 10 and one nine and one nine and one what is your take on his [ __ ] all of his fights and who he's fighting in the competition dude I've been excited as [ __ ] since I started I remember you I remember the first time I watched was the Nate Robinson I watched that one at home and then uh I don't remember what it was after that but I remember watching Ben Asam in Atlanta I think that was the first time we actually met was right after the fight I think we hugged I was like y I picked you up you carried me back to the locker room that it was love at first sight that was crazy actually yeah actually I [ __ ] with him we became best friends like a couple days later you going to leave me hanging no no I would it's my eyebrow but uh yeah no I think he's obviously super skilled I think it's and I I it's inspired me even in the position I'm at UFC World Champ sexy you know what I mean like tall dark handsome TR inspired me just business the business uh side of things that you've done I've always thought putting on massive fight that's why I'm such a huge Conor fan cuz the pay-per-views he's done is so [ __ ] he's been fighting for four years and [ __ ] that he's been doing the massive fights the fights I get excited for there's a few UFC fights the high the big big fights that I get excited for but every time you fought even when uh Logan fought Floyd I was [ __ ] like excited like all fight week so i' I've been inspired from what you've done from a business side from the boxing side they even just start so not late but for a boxer but these boxers start when they're [ __ ] three four years old like Ryan and tank like they're young buck the Tik Tac I sent you of Devon Haney's debut fight yeah it's wild he was fighting a five foot Mexican in a in a bar was it Dante bro if I show you this [ __ ] oh no I did see that I did see that I did see that when you started even seeing that first video fighting Anderson Silva six fights in bro like do you know how insane that is he's one of the greatest correct me if I'm wrong UFC Strikers in history yeah 100% so does that make me one of the greatest UFC Strikers and one of the greatest wrestlers cuz wood but Ben ask was but Nate Diaz is ducking me in MMA oh am crazy I am weak that's a sick fight MMA I I wish it was that would happened right after the boxing same he's actually ducking it which is why it's crazy because he's not he's not in UFC no but we we upped it to 15 million damn that's crazy though that would be a I like Nate Diaz but that would be such a fun buildup he actually doesn't want to do it all Sean how do you genuinely Jake's not here it's me and you in a room actually how do you see that fight going for Jake what MMA him you're not here J for Nate in MMA keep it a bean God it's it's so hard to you're a big [ __ ] right now on what weight would it be5 185 I don't hate I don't I it's not a it's a winable fight for you I really do think that but Nate is so [ __ ] you would have to do what I did against aljo and morab do not let that [ __ ] grab you not that you can't wrestle cuz I know you can wrestle but once he starts grabbing you and doing Jiu-Jitsu if he gets on top his little he likes his little trips it would be hard for you to win I feel like if he if he started grappling just pure Jiu-Jitsu if it let's be real if it goes to the floor is he [ __ ] if he's on his back Nate's not like a super strong guy so if you learn how to like I mean I'm sure you know how to get up to a single legegg stuff like that but then you start getting your neck grabbed I don't know how much Jiu-Jitsu you know I mean Nate's a [ __ ] high Lev black belt um if you could keep it standing 100% there's winnable ways there if he if he went to the ground feel like he might be able to grab your neck no that that's exactly how I feel about it if I don't get guillotined yeah then I win the fight because even if he was on top take your back but even if he was on top of me I would just throw him off of me cuz he's also the weakest puncher I've ever fought like when he was hitting me I was I almost like started laughing I'm I'm not even saying this to talk [ __ ] out of everyone I've sparred in my whole entire life and everyone I fought his punches are even me we I don't think you ever landed a punch on me is that true well that's not true so I don't anyone no I'm literally not even talking [ __ ] which is why I think it's funny that he dropped Connor and [ __ ] cuz it's just like how Conor with like to the ground yeah like with a straight left hand yeah which is crazy like I I'm not just talking [ __ ] when I say that and I've told you I've literally told you this you told me this after the fight yeah I was like he is the weakest puncher I've ever fought in my life who's who's the weakest puncher you've ever you've ever come to face um there I mean there's been so many fights where I later didn't even get hit um uh does that like make you jaded at all when you get into a fight and you don't really get love that [ __ ] I prefer not to get hit at all but like if I was you and I wasn't get hit at all I'd probably work less no no no no I I know I don't get hit because I work that hard so if I didn't work hard I know I'd probably get hit I'm just a lazy [ __ ] so so here you are on top of the world we're launching [ __ ] W going to be a billion dollar business [ __ ] you I always forget uh UFC champ accomplishing all your goals what do you want next uh what are what is the threeyear fiveyear for Sean I I truly do want to get a boxing fight I'm not I'm not super set on that to where like I'm like going to be [ __ ] if it doesn't happen I do think it'll be interesting especially if I go out there knock morab out Ryan does his thing I think there's a [ __ ] sweet fight there if it doesn't happen not that worried about it want to go out there beat morab I'd like to you know if Max Max and Elia fight I would like to fight go move up to 45 fight the winner of that um you know maybe have three to five maybe have a few more kids definitely want another little baby I love kids my fite pump him out shout out to Danny who's your top pick in a boxing fight though if you if you could choose your Ryan now was like the I mean what he after dvon Beat Ryan I was like javante then Ryan goes out there does his thing really though I think Dante do you is that is that not a big [ __ ] leap Ryan like you said before he's been doing this his whole life one thing that's been proven is that the crossover it's it's not a good return Fury he did his thing okay the excep is the exception we've seen it with okay but then Anthony Joshua put his ass t was crazy super night night he was I'm I'm here for big fights like I wanted to get into the UFC and I wanted to make big fights watching Conor versus Floyd I'm like that [ __ ] happened really happened hey you versus Derek that could be as big as Connor in Floyd but no but I I think the craziest [ __ ] about Conor versus Floyd is that overall it was a W for everyone involved so there's certain fights where it just like doesn't matter what happens that's the world we live in yeah I mean UFC told me they said if the if the fight's big enough and it'll make the UFC money they'll do it what means more to you your your your record being pre or the amount of money you're making all right let me ask you something it's about to get real J's drunk Jasper's drunk as [ __ ] y record or money [ __ ] it depends the Gap like like the gap of money if it's like an extra 10 15 20 million but I lose a couple important fights probably not you just take like 150 million I'll be like like [ __ ] my record baby yeah it depends on the gap of money Jake Paul is not here right now just like a Mayweather Conor McGregor you taking that fight ver Jake yeah no he's my buddy I could I mean I don't I don't even no I no funny no there's you know what's funny is always in my Snapchat story once once a day pretty much someone says we knock out Jake Paul like there's every sing all the time for so long people just want to see me get [ __ ] is good though that's like the thing yeah but I'm sensitive it is funny though people [ __ ] love to hate confidence the craziest thing though actually about both of you like I met you very recently like I didn't realize you're as like normal as you are I don't know why I thought you violent like you guys are both like very goofy mellow and stupid and c and and awesome it's like the greatest thing ever like I couldn't believe when I met you you're like one of us like yeah I wouldn't think you're a [ __ ] yeah one of the coolest people in the world for sure yeah but not a lot of people uh can like I don't know we have like a weird it's hard toes Meat Heads I'm like this the this my dog I think it's a little bit of dark humor too it's like some [ __ ] up [ __ ] that we say off camera [ __ ] sometimes but I think it's like there's a certain yeah like that's how my whole group is back home it's like we all just we're all just kind of [ __ ] dumb I'm smart but like they're dumb well someone commented like yo Jake Paul's the dumbest genius in the world and I was just like I say that [ __ ] all the time you wed up the other day and I was like this is the most genius dumbass in the world no jokes Hey Brother chill buddy trying to get me cancelled no what how old are you 23 are you really yeah no you're not he's not is he what do you think think what did you think Oh no you're 267 27 what did you think he was I thought he was older I thought he was like 27 26 yeah a niggaer mature was that ladies you got a boo you got a girl you just be slanging she timeout right now I don't really talk about she don't time out it's a little tricky she not taking care of herself what do you guys think about Tom Brady R you watch it yeah they kept comp panning to you every 5 Seconds bro I swear there's a huge camer sitting there the whole time but it's cool to see Netflix going hard like that cuz they went hard they swing that meat around huha yeah let's pivot yeah just sorry about him I'm drunk man not yeah but but it was it was great it wasar they should have got rid of most of the football players going up there yeah there's a couple ones Ben afflac is that who that was on there that was wild that was so weird that was so weird it was cool to see how [ __ ] less sensitive people are becoming I feel like feel like it's recently like there's a big push back I think people got sick of it we went super super super PC for a long time people were like wait a second we like being able to say what we want to say I saw kill Tony say oh type of crazy [ __ ] on there that watch every [ __ ] Monday you were on kill Tony yeah how old are you actually buddy I'm a comedian Budd full time no yeah I was on that I was nervous as hell though I was like just being it's a live I do podcast once a week like me and Tim do our podcast every [ __ ] week but to be there in front of an audience live it's weird it's a different kind of well so you say Tim but let's let's talk about actually the fact that you get trained by by one of the greatest boxers of all time it's really that's something what's happened like that's crazy working with Canelo as your as your coach that's what I'm saying people don't going to be Ryan but like yeah that is true I never even thought about that for did you even know that this guy proba even know that that orange [ __ ] is nice wait will I get cancelled by the ginger community no you're black oh no my dad my dad's Ginger and I'm I'm like this [ __ ] is ginger bro he be shaving he be shaving his beard and I zoom in zoom in it's it's slightly orange so I'm a quarter ginger on South Park they made fun of Gingers and that [ __ ] made the news I [ __ ] with the ginger people but like y'all [ __ ] you like redhead girls oh yeah was Super Soaker but anyway yeah like y'all [ __ ] is orange and that's okay but back to you one of y'all that's not drunk I got a question cuz this guy clipped out a lot did Tim actually like you guys about him like saying to fight that was yeah that was real Tim always be talking [ __ ] to the like he's been doing that for so long so what happened he just talk I mean he just he Alo the knee's coming Alo you got to shoot Alo watch out for this like he's been saying that since I've been in the UFC like my debut vers terion where he was talking [ __ ] to terion too and uh he just does it every fight but this happened to just be crazy timing to like Tim you got Tim like alre you got to go and like literally he he like that's when he threw that left hand or whatever stepped into Southpaw and uh or stepped into Orthodox and got dropped it was it was funny the timing because he's like Al you got to go I don't I truly don't think that's why that's not why Alo went I bet you could I bet Alo didn't even hear that but Tim's always chirping and stuff but people on the internet are [ __ ] mad about that a lot of them actually like it I'll say majority of people are thinking that's the funniest [ __ ] ever there's a couple [ __ ] that are like you should be banned think it's a fight would you run the alra fight back or one and done never I like that why would I yeah am I supposed to top that you know what I'm saying I got love for Alo we had him on the show and he he seems like a good dude I actually don't mind Alo I does that ever happen where like you'll have a personal relationship with someone personal runin with them and it's all great but then now all of a sudden you have to fight each other I've never had I've not of running with someone that's been like uh more than like I've ran into aljo morab at the UFC I'm like hey what's up talk to him a little bit you know nothing no ill will um but I haven't had like a run with someone I actually lik them mhm and then at the fight them so you're not friends with any any other UFC fighters oh I have a there's there's a couple guys in my in my weight class that I train with at the lab that are like climbing the r uh ladders what happened with uh the 125 pounder I I don't even know his name and I'm not I'm just not like yeah what's his name I Alexander pania bro this story is actually kind of funny so 2016 I think it was it was like 3 and0 4 and0 and I was still fighting at like I fought at 125 not too long before that I fought at like 130 which is in a weight class was like so I wasn't like a 155 like I am now I was probably like 14 back then and uh Henry cejudo comes in I'm three or four and0 at the point at this point it comes in with this kid Alexander PTO just won The Ultimate Fighter I think he's got his UFC debut or it's his second UFC fight he's a couple weeks out from his fight I'm [ __ ] the night before me and Tim ripping bongs like hanging out being goofballs and [ __ ] so the next morning so we brought him in for sparring hry sudo brings in Alexander you're 4-0 he's King [ __ ] he he's just won The Ultimate Fighter and so they write the names on on the board who who you're sparring I'm like oh [ __ ] I got Alexander Pantoja versus me for one round one round he has three rounds so you write one one name then usually you you spar with one guy then they go out you spar with a fresh guy they go out spar with the fresh guy that's usually how it works so my name was just up there for one round that's it we Spar one round I didn't know anything about him cuz I I didn't really watch it like that 25 I don't really watch 25ers like that but somebody's like oh [ __ ] that's he a black belt he just won The Ultimate Fighter I was like oh [ __ ] I got to [ __ ] Focus up here first round boom Dro him with a liver kick and I wasn't going to post I record all my rounds I have so many sparring rounds like I wasn't going to post it was and for some reason I don't know why he would talk [ __ ] and bring it up cuz I literally I don't know you know know I don't know if you know how it works but you finish a guy the fight's over right no no did he um so I finished him the first round he hit him boom with the liver I posted the video yesterday and I've had it for a long time I didn't want to post it CU you don't post sparring like that but he just kept bringing it up so boom finished him first round um then uh after the first round round I go to walk out and Henry's over there crying box of Kleenex just like [ __ ] wiping his tears crying we want you for a second round so mad that this little like I was nobody just finished his dude he's in the UFC he's supposed to be the man finish him in the first round so Henry's crying saying he wants another round um so I piece him up again in the second round and I'm I'm dying at this point my lungs are burning I'm not in shape for fight I I'm nowhere near in Camp for a fight and I my lungs are hurting and uh Henry again crying blowing his nose and like I want you for a third and Benson comes in Benson Henderson absolute Legend comes in and was yelling cuz that's his it was the his gym the MMA lab we don't let people come in our gym and make us tired and blah blah blah and I'm [ __ ] just just huffing and puffing I just got done work in this dude for 10 minutes finished him in the first round did I say that liver kick um we'll put the footage I have the foot yeah it's right there insert the footage so third round come out boom piece him up again and he's so I don't know why he keeps bringing up this bringing this up in the media I think it's because people ask him but I don't know why he doesn't just say yeah yeah no no I don't want to talk about it he keeps saying like he's like oh I got in I found his range and [ __ ] I'm like bro you you stopped him in one round stopped him in round one and let him live and continue to fight for round two these delusional uh like wild people are weirdos but the reason I posted cuz he kept bringing it up exactly wait so is he the champ now at 125 yeah okay but why does he still want to talk [ __ ] to you if you got [ __ ] up that's what I'm saying I don't know either either you drop to 125 and get that no I can't drop to 125 that's too much now you're a thick [ __ ] I am a thick but yeah I SP I think it's important for up and cominging Spar uh fighters to record their rounds and watch their rounds not for that this reason you know but just to I've improve so much watching my sparring y I have thousands of rounds maybe not thousands hundreds of rounds from 10 years ago on my on my computer of uh it's like NFL team is watching footage the time [ __ ] 100% got to watch that [ __ ] that's I I have every single round recorded and and again I I don't post sparring either exactly you know put in a highlight video make a vlog boom we're sparring people but it's never like [ __ ] up your guy yeah exactly but Mike Perry honestly like what he's been doing is pretty Fu he went to Bare knuckle that [ __ ] just meant for him bare knuckle fighting it's crazy different going crazy he's doing good he's [ __ ] undefeated over there he's beating some really good guys stay over here [ __ ] [ __ ] only place that you should be getting tickets from is game time.co it's it's the only place I go it is the only place you can possibly go they have 110% price match guarantee that's what we use to get our tickets for the NBA Finals you can get $20 off your first order go to gametime.co JJ a $20 off your first order they're doing a deal specifically for y'all and you could see where your tickets are before you buy them seeing the seats they have all of the these great policies last 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platform there is Mike Paul versus Jake Tyson here's my official prediction tell us and even if even if it's against me like it's not it's not I do think you're going to beat Mike Tyson uh it's crazy that I even saying that out loud right now cuz you're fighting Mike Tyson it's [ __ ] crazy even just when we were walking down the the street today people all genders all ages knew you were fighting Mike Tyson it's such a massive fights live on Netflix which is [ __ ] crazy it's in a stadium which is [ __ ] crazy it is crazy I believe in you I see what you I see what you're doing I see you know that you believe in yourself Mike Tyson is uh hasn't fought in however long it's been so for him to just come up and get a fight be I I'm sure is going to be in as good a shape as he possibly could be in but it's just you know it's it's it's it's not his time right now I love Mike Tyson I never actually met him but I love Mike Tyson I do think Jake's gonna get the job done and I do think eight rounds eight two-minute rounds eight two-minute rounds I believe I believe you could put them away in the later rounds you know five six seven eight I do think you could put it put him down which is crazy to even [ __ ] think you rap yeah that's fire I'm just lazy and inconsistent that's not a w no that sh it is not you start using Brandon yell at him every day but cuz you can actually spit that's fire no but but people know him now from like podcasting they don't know he's a rapper and hurts his soul J sick name Lil jizz what J JZ that's good that's good you should switch your [ __ ] I switch my [ __ ] from come Master to kill Jas bro honestly though that's I think singing rapping spitting is one of the things that if I could switch talents be doing something like that that's good or twerking I ain't going to lie you shook that [ __ ] earlier I got a I got a thing on me you that [ __ ] wiggle a little bit let's let's pivot though cuz yep hit a pivot uh yeah do we have a speaker should we play Jasper's new song or something you got a new one I thought you were lazy some new [ __ ] go ahead play on your phone just put it in the speaker put it in the mic too this the [ __ ] I'm dropping when I'm Indie that sound decent I'm not rapping either I'm yapping that's not going to get you drunk yo I made this beat that's crazy I like the way you look I won't lie you got something I need you my with a fly girl like you doing with no guy a little sh don't really go outside I'm not crazy right place and right time you all smiles and pretty light brown [Music] [Music] like that better if I forget you but I just can't time saying do better and I'm sure you can find that guy that's worth all right cut it cut it cut it that's that's enough that's enough that's enough that's enough for real can't give the whole thing it's not out yet yeah hey good [ __ ] that's fire I'll be rapping though but that's some pop [ __ ] just cuz I can do it so why are you consistent cuz I'm lazy and jaded and and spoiled yeah it's unfortunate maam shout out to the homies for a lot of talented people out there that just are yeah don't smoke crack yo also there there is a parallel there don't do don't do that there's a parallel with the same thing he's talking about I think Fighters probably where it's like you could have all the talent in the world he's got that's why I get so [ __ ] mad at him it's cuz he has all the talent in the world really I get more pissed off than he gets and he could be a superstar but he just is lazy he doesn't put the work in he's not he's not strategic and it is hard when you got when you live in a crib in Puerto Rico right you got chefs and [ __ ] and you fly private with me yeah that's it that's it bro that's it you got to you got get paychecks and [ __ ] y'all got to evict me that's not a bad idea honestly I think we talked about it let's make I was I'm H we had a conversation but I just can't I can't because I love you so much I need you but then I'll probably be more like need you y yeah I guarante and then we you would still have to like fly in once a week to to do the pods and it would be resentment and then I I'll go out like and I'll try to start shooting at y'all oh my God I guarantee I would be in the position I'm in if I if I had money and like had already made it like financially had [ __ ] I wouldn't have made it that's why people think I'm crazy but CC the other side of it is like boom right so I'm from com California same hey shout out my [ __ ] yeah man I was homeless for the first half of my life mom's a drug addict dad's a gang member I've never had anything in my life right and my whole life has been music I dropped out in ninth grade I was like I'm going to make music my dad kicks me out he's like you can't live under this roof like be more like your brothers my brothers are [ __ ] star students one got a full ride scholarship loser all all type of [ __ ] nerd ass [ __ ] all those [ __ ] are fat and unemploy now one dropped out of school a full rise scholarship and is just sitting at home right so boom from having nothing to like me saying I'm going to risk everything that I have in my life to become a music artist and it works I get to a certain place and I'm like damn I did exactly I hit a ceiling right so it's like now I had to recalibrate he got a big record deal and then and then like use I crashed out and became a m addict for four four days a week for 30 like 90 days oh it's not bad but then I moved cuz my homeboy was like you need to move and I was like nah [ __ ] that I made a million I ain't going to move I'm going to maintain this lifestyle I'm a junkie but I'm rich yep I crashed out and was like yeah I need to move lost 60 lbs went to Puerto Rico locked in recalibrated and now I'm ready to be but that's that's here's the problem we run into now is that you've recalibrated and now it's still it's been 6 months the album's supposed to be 6 months ago and we're still waiting for the album that's the problem and that's what you got to work on never too late though let's start it let's get because you're vitamin deficient right yeah yeah cuz like a lot of people can't think straight when they're vitamin deficient and all that a week ago kind of elaborated on that so yeah this isn't therapy um I got shout out Suzie right right huh Susie but she's hot is she not you think my therapist you guys got the same one I could pee and vape on this podcast I got to go pee go pee I could pee yeah I mean I think we I think we end the episode because uh let's wrap it up you can get W available at Walmart anyway if you walk into Walmart whether you with your mom your daddy you by yourself you go in that [ __ ] men body care aisle you buy that and comment down below what you thought of the episode for um us being brain fried over and uh jper but Buzz also comment cuz this coming out when the product releases comment your favorite scent and sent $10,000 right no I'm send you 1,000 I ain't got 10,000 for you but I'll send you 1,000 I'll send someone 10,000 he'll send you 10,000 I'll send you a th000 and I'm going through the comments for sure anyway good luck Charlie and if you got a test soon good luck on that [ __ ] that's what we [Music] do what are those 8 O gloves I want you to know they were talking up there he ain't going easy so be ready all right legit be ready buddy I'm using these bags don't show Too Much don't show we're boxing we're boxing I don't I do that on accident sometimes just know that that might come up just keep your hands up I'm just saying I might throw that up I haven't knocked someone out in a while just cuz my last fight didn't go off it went off five rounds I've been like craving just putting someone's lights out lately it's weird versus your boy better Derek I I hope Sean isn't nice and just [ __ ] him up that's your that's your trainee [ __ ] D all righty folks welcome to your main event of the evening starting out first in the loser corner you have better day with a record of no wins no losses I beat ste's [ __ ] out no anything he is 5'7 120 lbs lost in the mile to better JoJo but he's still delusional in his fighting career and to my left in the winning Corner sponsored by W sugar sha Ali The Undefeated UFC champion of the world it's time to fight bring it to the center we already spoke about the rules in the locker room beforehand give me your glove give me your hand touch gloves I want a clean fair fight no no hits below the waist back to your Corners time you ready judge you ready and fight [Music] [Applause] I'm out of balance or something oh do Dodge that [ __ ] hold on hold on hold on hold [ __ ] come on come on just oh my God one back of the head no no no back of the head four ref didn't see it five six me in the eyes Walk This Way Walk This Way for me he's running Walk This Way for me my car run all right and we're in in that right that's called all right time time time one two that was a that was a slip four up six bro Rizo what the [ __ ] are you doing all right get up SLP all right come on time in come on got come on got you [ __ ] black I'm going to I need to work I need to see some work black UT D somebody said 10 seconds like 8 seconds ago all right great back to your corner back to your corner back to your corner stay in there you're doing good right now this feel good I feel good do you see that one I landed clean on his face I think we all terrible shut the [ __ ] up for once in your [ __ ] life shut the [ __ ] up Sean's doing half punches on him shut up I'll act like uh no don't act like bro I'm just I'm putting in work all right how this how you when you [ __ ] beat the old wash UFC fighters everybody comments you're fighting old was UFC fighters what do you think 10s I think they're right in in round two round two round two oh got him [ __ ] oh [Music] [ __ ] hey put that hey that that's a that's going to be a 10 count can't get me by the that's going to be a 10 count that's going to be a 10 count next time back in the just there going to be a 10 count next time get in there give me real quick get him with some you thank you perfect okay BL I'm going to need to see some more one two back to your corner white Corner neutral Corner 5 6 seven eight n look at me thank you bro come on you want to fight do you want to fight when I do you want to fight yes yeah wait wait time back in wake up time time time time time I promise okay it's to the floor the rules of transfer to MMA tap tap tap he's St he's T he's ta all right I block out all right you're good to go wait wait the fight was over get the [ __ ] out of the ring oh it's over it's over it's over it's over go you got it's over it's over it's over [Music]	out let that's crazy timeing saying talk [ __ ] to my face if you're going to talk [ __ ] that's crazy timing what were you saying they were telling me you want to get in the ring and Spar bit or they didn't say Spar they said fight yeah I'm down to do either but uh yeah no I'm just sick of the [ __ ] [ __ ] you've been saying on your podcast uh you called me you made fun of my weight and you called me gay I did not no I well okay okay you said that he wouldn't ever say that what you got to say what your chest that's what I just [ __ ] said bro I he was like oh if I if stand on it you talking to him you talking to him you ain't talking to me my assistant Sono would would piece you he's never boxed a day he never I'm here to fight your video I'm here to fight you what did I what was the first thing I said to you when when I saw you what was the first thing I said to you that we could fight no I said you look thick wait but when we were talking earlier weren't you saying he's a [ __ ] and you wanted to get a ring with him and all type [ __ ] what I'm saying right now say it then I just	-5	8	-3	out let that's crazy timeing saying talk to my face if you're going to talk that's crazy timing what were you saying they were telling me you 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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXPZ1KzdpsY	4,103	mXPZ1KzdpsY	2024-06-20 00:00:00	well well well ladies and gentlemen do we have a special episode for you today none other than sugar Shan om Ali the current UFC bantamweight champion a legend in his own right this episode was off the cusp we were a little turned up Jasper was really really drunk so we weren't really prepared for this at all the conversations definitely got wild and obviously as you guys have seen over maybe the past week or so we launched a new company called w am men's carine in Walmart this company is so near and dear to my heart and I partnered with Shawn to bring this Vision to life amongst other celebrities artists and athletes that we are announcing over the next couple of weeks here get your w at Walmart it is very very very very very good stuff and yes you heard the news I am fighting Mike Perry on July 20th it is going down I'm still fighting Mike Tyson November 15th that is happening but I'm staying active knocking out Mike Perry on July 20th and I'm excited for y'all to listen to this episode and he the vision of w how it all came together and how Shawn got involved and then everything to do with Shawn's career this podcast has been a long time coming but prepare yourself for some idiocracy per usual uh this is [ __ ] with Jake Paul we have a secret handshake check it out AC let me get that stop playing mean yeah we created that because we actually have so many things to get into here this has been a long time coming Jasper did bring up something and the reason W was created was because the other products in the category had harmful dyes parabens sulfates hormone disruptors and so we wanted to create the better for you vitamin infused product and and Sean's a co-owner just signed today yesterday for the show but we we'll get into all of that we we've been you know bringing sea on for like we've been talking for like a month and a half yes sir yes sir um it is currently May we've been doing a lot of shoots this podcast will probably come out at post W launch you can get I'm so drunk I'm sorry y'all you can get it in uh Walmart every Walmart you in Paca Walmart get it in you in Pensacola it's in Walmart in Kentucky Walmart Walmart so basically uh we we brought in the greatest people in the world to help build W and Sean is one of those people but dialing everything back we will get into the company the body washes how this all came about but uh we've been wanting to do this podcast and thanks for joining us BR hey guys hey thanks for joining us right did you uh yeah I did you sh for an hour bro did you did you do do we know do we set the stage of the day and the fact that Jasper's slash right now okay cool y drunk is a [ __ ] y like double drunk yep yep yep you drunk yeah all that so um but just winding everything back uh I think we've been friends for a long time in fact you were the first guest on this show oh [ __ ] crazy Zoom crazy that's right that's right that's right the first ever episode you zoomed in and that's crazy we're thankful we're thankful for our friendship and it's pretty cool that now we're here again today uh getting less views than before and that's fire that's it congratulations less views we're not we're not it was it was a joke it was a joke if you watching this please like and comment cuz we falling off right now but man by the time this comes out you're going to be getting ready for me RAB how do you say his name I don't remember morab is iTab or or I don't know me that's got to be it me but you got to say it with the emphasis look meab mirab meab meab there you go there you go so yeah I should be getting ready hopefully I ain't got nothing scheduled hopefully uh you know Uncle Dana will call me say hey buddy you want to fight in in here and there and there and then I'm d b boom and that that's how that works what's up with everybody on your body though everybody talking [ __ ] even people youat I wanted to bring up yeah and he's like saying like he's trying to post about you even yesterday it is weird but when you concuss someone you know what I just say they don't think as well as they used to so I think he's still concussed and he's a little confused because he's talking [ __ ] still he not in his right mind because I can just throw up another post go because it's a throwback Thursday it's a throwback Friday do you think do you think people don't respect you enough cuz I I see that as your friend an unbiased like they just see social media and podcasts and the the hair and stuff like that and then they just sh week but I [ __ ] with you I appr that um I don't think it is well you can't you know I think it's fine I think you're jealous I ain't going to lie I got some inches under here let's smell that hair you can smell my [ __ ] must who I do think I feel a little bit disrespected as the champ but I think that last fight against Che kind of you know shut a little bit of people up canny go five rounds Cheeto beat me before the Alo fight um shut a lot of people up canny grapple didn't have to Grapple cuz he couldn't take me down yeah Alo couldn't take you down I think that was the biggest thing where they were like yo that's his weakness like yeah wrestle him down and then he just proved everyone wrong that's what's so interesting about this morab fight is he's supposedly well he is he's [ __ ] good at wrestling he's really really good at wrestling he's boring as [ __ ] and no one will there won't be one comment saying yeah right he's actually kind of fun not one person I'm com won I'm com you can I ask you something would you put yourself in your own top five Strikers in the UFC oh I'm yeah yo easily who's your Mount Rushmore strikker well I I mean I would unbiasedly I would put him as number one because adna is in like top three but he also like got beat by put that [ __ ] down boy he did uh bro I'm up there I'm up there Max is really good Max super his striking that's a good top five there that's four me Max Elia adaga uh I'm sure I'm missing some your with a one would it be that's that's a minus one Mount rmore is four yeah but I only got four but if you throw the five in it's a plus one isn't there only four yeah but but you ready to throw the five up I'm four all right that's my more but yeah once again uh this is a [ __ ] ass podcast so we apologize hey but something something you just touched on you talked about Fighters being fun and interesting how much and you're you're a superstar how much of you being a superstar how much of any fighter being a superstar comes down to them being fun and interesting as you are and how much of it comes down to their actual fighting good question uh well who's a super who who obviously Connor comes to mind I think he's he's a character he's fun he's interesting who else comes to mind is like a superstar I would say Izzy gives that off I think he's an interesting guy other than that there's not like a ton of fun like Ryan Garcia is doing a really good job right now of being [ __ ] interesting being a character uh I think that's fentel I think it's drugs as well I wouldn't deny that but he's still making people interested in Ryan versus Devon Haney was an interesting fight not because Devon Haney that dude's boring as [ __ ] you think he did them roids no I don't think Ryan did I think Devon needs to take that L he being a [ __ ] about I think the craziest [ __ ] you said to me and like I don't even know if we want to put this in there or bring it up but we we can always remove it but uh because of your your situation with the ostarine and you said to me like and it I like fully felt your energy you're like I swear on my daughter's life I never did that and you got popped for it yeah same thing happened uh to Ryan right now he popped for aost the low super low level a some [ __ ] like a trillionth of a gr the same thing happened to me uh so when that came out with Ryan like I truly truly didn't believe he took anything because it was the same [ __ ] and it happens to a lot of [ __ ] ostarine happens to how does that happen it's called the tainted supplement so if you're taking anything that has protein in it that's not third party tested uh could not just protein any kind of supplement that's not third party tested it's either NSF or there's a bunch of different third party tests but if you're not if you're taking something that doesn't have that there's chances there could be something in it but austram people pop for that all the time my case was not that big of a deal cuz I wasn't as huge of a star as I am now but it still was like a big deal because of my name the reason it's going so crazy right now is because Ryan G is a superstar so people are freaking out but it happens to a lot of athletes I just before we move past it I just on that Superstar topic how is that is that Superstar factor that that someone like you has someone like Ryan has someone like Connor has is it something you're born with or is it is it a practice is it something you can learn and do you sit back and like think like oh how can I go viral today how can I I think it's both I think you have to want to be a superstar there's some guys in the UFC like I want to make more money I want this I want that but they don't really want to be a superstar you you got to want it you got to you got to have some kind of vision a long time before well and and also like who you are as a person you have to have that like Fire Within still though like before you got into want famous I want to be in the NFL I want to be NBA I wanted to be a [ __ ] athlete when I was young was instilled I was just for whatever reason I wanted to make it when I was young I'm from H in Montana like small ass can I ask you something what's your opinion on like the take b nickel takes like where he's like super friendly and humble and like I think he's a sweet ass [ __ ] they love him but like bro that [ __ ] pisses me off I think that [ __ ] is cool too n like you're a hum like [ __ ] talk your [ __ ] you're what 670 like bro talk your [ __ ] like it it kind of bores me no I get yeah I mean that's that's some people's opinion is like he's too nice too humble too that but he's being himself um but he's also super young in the sport I think he and he's still pretty what is he 28 you're in a sport of War if I was playing like [ __ ] Cricket I would be like yeah like but that's that's the thing is for for for a character like him what it seems like is that's what he's in is the sport of war and that's it he's not in the sport of entertainment he's a nice ass sweetheart get there is some people that that understand both sides of things but I also have respect for and I see when someone's that's strictly in the sport of if I play chess with you I'm going to be like good game and I'm going to shake your hand I talk [ __ ] be F ass to a PO it I'm going to be like [ __ ] you you need to get better at whatever you're doing dial dialing it back a little bit um to the aost stream thing I think it's like what do you think about Conor tweeting still at like 3:00 a.m. like coked out he he he he sent shots at me and Ryan talking [ __ ] but it's it's crazy coming from Connor who literally got out of the usada pool to do steroid like legit steroids so it's kind of wild and I was the biggest Connor fan for a long time in the last couple weeks ever since he sent that wasn't even a couple weeks ago probably a week ago I've been trying to hate him I've been trying to be like [ __ ] you Connor but I can't I love Connor I it's like I am excited for his fight coming up I'm excited I want you know I'm all about it what's the fight is it Chandler Chandler in June it's going to be big they just been trying to do it for a long time so I didn't know if it still still I think officially I think it's I think I think the craziest part about it is what like eight weeks before a fight that he's still like coked and drunk out of his mind who you got though who that's a good it is crazy that he still like he tweeted that deleted like 20 minutes later he was definitely [ __ ] up on well that's what I was going to say we can't just Grace past that do you is that that's a that's a bold thing to say do you you know he's on coke is that a is that are you [ __ ] gills I don't know anything but I know for certain that he's brother like look at the time of the tweets and look at what he's saying like also and he's like known for this simar tweets yeah yeah I don't know just manic brother I think he is I do think Ryan is I think he when he said he was playing into it a little bit I I think he's kind of using that I think he's [ __ ] crazy what what what would happen if you and Ryan boxed that's I mean there's only one way to find out he has a lot better chances of beating me in a boxing match than he does in a real fight keep up I do I I [ __ ] I truly believe in myself that's how I got to the [ __ ] position I'm in right now I can box I can throw hands um I don't think it'd be easy by any means I do think it's possible I beat him I'm not saying my my odds are great but I do believe I could beat Ryan Bo if there was anybody you could box for your first boxing match debut who are you Bo give an easy fight give me Deon Haney you give [Laughter] me honest answer uh I mean if we're I I would say Floyd if I Pi if I could sit here and pick who I box first boxing fight I pick Floyd because it would be the biggest most crazy most legendary fight maybe not most legendary some people for me okay but outside of that on a skill based level oh I I could hang with some good [ __ ] pro boxers I'm undefeated in boxing you think you think if you and uh ilot boxed that' be ilot is very very [ __ ] skilled boxing that's an interesting question so who what what professional boxer would you equate your PA Mike Tyson I know of Devon Haney now because Ryan Garcia beat him uh dvon Davis he's really short I know him um maybe smacking [ __ ] up though he does he that little guy he can't he can't ride roll coasters though that is true so there's a there's a tradeoff like Cruz fight he was riding a roller coaster no like I'm talking about like at the fair oh no you know like there there's a trade-off in life you know where things get weird it's like it's like yo he's really good but you can't even just hit Dante fan brother can't even ride the top not a Dante fan that's not what I'm wait what did what did I say to say I'm not a you didn't say I mean I don't think he knows that it's a short joke I don't think he picked up on you want me tell him I was joking shut the [ __ ] up I get I say that was a joke I'm what are you trying to say I'm but are you trying to insinuate that I'm short no honestly you're probably what five you're 5'9 you're like 5' seven and a half stop doing stop doing it stop doing that cuz [ __ ] is going to see this and be like he's 5'6 actually if you watching this and you think I'm 5'6 and you want to try me in person please any [ __ ] who see me out I'm punching your [ __ ] out I'm like 5'9 on a good day when when I'm lying to women I'm 5'10 for sure who's gonna ID me I'm wearing forces I'm a [ __ ] liar all right so now for the truth jakee he's like what like he's 5 No but don't do that bro all right all right we won't we'll cut that out like yeah n don't cut it out n don't see me and see these but you know dvon is 5'5 legit that's cool bro I know but is that not short just be honest is that five five short for a grown man for a grown man is that short you can be a fan I'm not I'm a fan of javante and he's five that's a little little bro all right the joke went over his head anyways so the short joke [ __ ] is trying to play me like I'm short no no no we're we're not we're not you're [ __ ] tall all right let's pivot yeah so um SI yeah sh shout out to the shout out to the pivot but but yeah like Jasper's a little riled up things are on edge he's a little he's a little turned up it's been a long day a long two days we've been shooting uh because we have a new [ __ ] company did we say we talk about that yet I we said in the beginning raise your arms up [ __ ] goed [ __ ] goed shout out to w a fun few days it's been a fun few days days you're going to see the content rolling out um but you speaking of but Ruby Rose did a good job oh my God I wanted to bite that M listen anyway if you're near wmart if you're watching this right now I don't give a [ __ ] what you're doing you could be taking care of your kid you could be taking care of your elderly parents [ __ ] them go to Walmart June 1st Nationwide I don't care if you in Pensacola you in Massachusetts all in places that sound [ __ ] stupid there's a Walmart there and you go there it's a better for you product vitamin ifuse number [ __ ] one yeah no basically I I think dialing back like the business story of it because you're also like a very smart businessman intellectual doing everything you do in and outside of the Ring which a lot of people don't have which contributes to you being uh the biggest in my opinion the biggest UFC star um but yeah we we basically I guess this is the podcast where we tell people where W came from but um we started building this company like a year and a half ago and really saw how all these other companies like as we move into better for you products and less harmful products we saw how the leaders in the space didn't have the best formulas didn't have the best manufacturing had all of these harmful substances in it and we're also brands from when I was like 9 years old I don't want to list names but they're still like having all the Shelf space in stores and I was just like this is wild like this is boring this is lame the the the we need something new we need something that's better uh males have vitamin uh deficiencies like crazy especially with magnesium Jasper just can't get enough of it uh especially with magnesium um and biotin is in the body wash uh vitamin E one two of the best vitamins for your skin and hair um but as The Story Goes long story short we we come up with this brand that represents so many things um but I think winning in everyday life whether you're the valedictorian whether you are the high school jock whether you're philanthropist now you have a product that you can embody and wear every single day that's increasing your vitamin intake that is less harmful to you that's where the idea came from and just being the winning formula in category uh went to Walmart pitched them the whole idea they [ __ ] loved it helped us build the brand even and come up with the scent profiles and all the things that are the the most popular um and this has been something I've wanted to do for so long we had to bring in the best people to be a part of it the winners in their category and that's number one Numero Uno sha Ali here um and he instantly saw the vision and already in the past couple of days it's been like super fun filming all the content behind yeah I was pumped when you [ __ ] called me appreciate you thinking of me and uh excited to help grow this business [ __ ] it's needed it's needed we're going to take over the whole bathroom you know tooed if you [ __ ] with the dogs and cows and chickens dog in you I know what I got that dog in me and I use it so be dog free baby am I missing anything with that no I think that was great the one the one thing I would touch on and you did in a way but it's it is body wash it is body spray it is deodorant but it also is there's an ethos that stands behind this brand which is the ethos that you stand for and it's the ethos that you stand for and the ethos that you stand for and the one that I stand for if I say ethos again I'm GNA start stumbling over my words but it's it's it's like you said it it doesn't the winners in life aren't just you you're on a big stage in life you're you're you're crushing it in every aspect financially you're a star you're leading your sport that's awesome on every [ __ ] level it's it's an encouragement to to young men all around the world to [ __ ] get up off their ass and get sh it don't matter if you score high on a test you whatever the [ __ ] it is that you do well maybe not so it matters what the [ __ ] you do but it also doesn't matter what the [ __ ] you do anybody is a winner as long as you put in the work and you have the will to win and I love it I I would say that's wrong I would say that not anybody is a winner and I think that's something that the brand also stands for like you really got to win you got to as you have the will to win no I'm just saying I think that's an important point cuz we live in a world today where a lot of people think everybody can be a winner that's not true if you Los you might be a loser and if you're a loser the good news is there's a hidden l in the logo actually we'll trace it for you with our graphic design team there's a hidden l in the logo because and I I I wanted to make sure that was was a thing because the biggest loss of my life turned out to be the biggest W in my life and I always had the saying like two L's make a w and when I lost to Tommy Fury it was embarrassing all these things but I realized I wasn't focused I wasn't as locked in as I could be the team around me from a boxing standpoint wasn't good I was having personal issues with relationships and all of these things that I had to shed and grow from and I grew into this new and completely different person but I wouldn't have done that if I didn't lose on the biggest stage possible and I think that was part of the ethos ethos ethos ethos of the brand was to encourage people that in their lowest moments to turn those into into their biggest W's eventually when Jake just said that the biggest loss of his life ended up being the biggest W of his life you said same yeah yeah same what what was that story for supposedly lost for lost to Cheeto back in 2020 August it it was I mean it sucked at the time but I it didn't suck too bad because I was like okay I didn't lose because I you know and it was different I wasn't I mean I was focused everything went good training camp everything was good but I was like that sucks I'm goingon to get that back someday when the time is right and then my last fight two two months ago in Miami headline I'm the champ defending my belt against that same guy how rewarding was that three and a half years later August three and a half years later boom beat his ass as a fan of yours it made it so sweet because of all the doubters that constantly like put you down and didn't believe in you and said he was going to destroy you and then you he literally like you embarrass him that was a performance of a life you embarrassed the [ __ ] out of him and I think that's literally a prime example of turning l l into into a w and I really that's what that's where the hidden l in the brand in the logo is um and representing that every single day when you see these products in your bathroom and when we say we have a saying it's not just a product it's a lifestyle absolutely trademarked Incorporated All Rights Reserved 2024 brother uh but but yeah man it's it's an honor to have you a part of this and uh we we really made what we think are the best products on the market from the body wash being exfoliating vitamin infused to the body spray what we found out is a lot of these fragrances like you get like these high-end designer brands that have like $500 colognes turns out it only cost them a dollar to make that and they're literally making like $499 on top of that so we had a fine fragrance house is what these places are called and we got the super expensive scents and gave it to people to what they're worth like we're not trying to these products are super super affordable and I think it's so funny because that's the world we live in where like you just label something and get like a European girl to go this is one of the lower priced men's care products on the market yeah if I'm not mistaken and it's it's the $500 fragrance in the affordable bottle because we want everyone we've been using a body wash in the past two days since we got the samples after the shoot and I personally want to say I got the in there you could bleep it out whatever you want to do W's winning n b genuinely that's that's the saying is the it's winning formula cuz it really is like it really is if if we're going to call our company [ __ ] W it has to be the best we the winners winning product indeed indeed winning customers all that type of [ __ ] indeed better Derek today he's just got a punch I'm not Li I talked to him before he left he wants to punch you up bro he's got a punchable face I like him though it's weird it's like God I like that guy but I want [ __ ] KO pick him up and like it's okay boom one more to the liing me earlier and I'm just letting you know don't shoot the messenger on God he said he wants to get in the ring with you I can call him really he oh yeah he he you want to call him yeah where is he at is wait uh no call no call he's coming up oh um he's talking smack he said he actually wants a spar I swear to God he said he wants to get percentage should I go you guys I literally out let that's crazy timeing saying talk [ __ ] to my face if you're going to talk [ __ ] that's crazy timing what were you saying they were telling me you want to get in the ring and Spar bit or they didn't say Spar they said fight yeah I'm down to do either but uh yeah no I'm just sick of the [ __ ] [ __ ] you've been saying on your podcast uh you called me you made fun of my weight and you called me gay I did not no I well okay okay you said that he wouldn't ever say that what you got to say what your chest that's what I just [ __ ] said bro I he was like oh if I if stand on it you talking to him you talking to him you ain't talking to me my assistant Sono would would piece you he's never boxed a day he never I'm here to fight your video I'm here to fight you what did I what was the first thing I said to you when when I saw you what was the first thing I said to you that we could fight no I said you look thick wait but when we were talking earlier weren't you saying he's a [ __ ] and you wanted to get a ring with him and all type [ __ ] what I'm saying right now say it then I just said the [ __ ] ring so we can after this we have a ring 2 feet away and he's a [ __ ] and whatever else you was saying to me yeah he's [ __ ] what about my hair say something about my hair I I already said that at the W shoot that you look like you haven't showered in [ __ ] a week okay all right d hey buddy hey hey what's your long-term play not no but see you guys you guys are making me seem crazy you're out of your mind he Derek Dereck go warm up hit the hit the heavy back H the warm up is almost listen legendary as send location dble PIV go warm up hey hey double pivot sit sit I'm not [ __ ] no I I'll sit and talk but I'm not [ __ ] no sit on the floor walk you want to take my seat hey how much how much of what's going on ch ch how much of what's going on is is a character versus like actual delusion how much is a character yeah decent uh I would say there are times where I know what I have to do for my boxing career to like like we all why is he laughing cuz you said career I beat your [ __ ] boy your [ __ ] [ __ ] bro you know what I I recall you did beat I recall calling steiny saying what the [ __ ] was that buddy I love steiny but I do remember watching that and thinking I wasn't proud of that I was not proud of that from steiny and I wish I wish he would come to the gym I wish he'd get in there I wish he'd train a little bit and I wish he would have a rematch but that's on him I've been trying to get the rematch but he's been ding me do you think Derek won he said I won I thought I thought he won I'd have to rewatch but I do think I come on baby the comments have [ __ ] dragged me for months after that [ __ ] 99% of the comments say I lost so please say it one more time Sean no I said it what I said it's like therapy or something no but to answer your question uh we all know uh uh as Fighters there's a side of promotion stop [ __ ] first of all Gus shut the [ __ ] up our our audio guys uh like can't stop laughing is that the facial his facial hair or is what he's saying bro that's bold of you to talk facial hair bro that's bold of you to I'm not Li you look dirty you look like Jeffrey done training right Jesus I train every day but anyway we know like there's two sides of of promotion as well as the actual athletic competition that is Combat Sports so there are times where I might play up a little bit like hey promoting but let him go let him go all right if you if all if you think I'm all promoting that I'll see you in the [ __ ] ring and I'll knock both you either of you out well um well Jake's a [ __ ] fat [ __ ] right now he weighs like 240 so I got I goty I gotta pick my words wisely like he's Jake's 240 I I know I know but like I'm not going to sit here and pick a fight against somebody that's 240 when I'm se's my weight class when I stopped you in one round like just like but when I was getting started out of come this is where I'm at since then I told him he could have somebody tag team I'm down I'm down to fight anybody in this [ __ ] room not one person in this room I'm the best part about this is like uh right after this we I think you're you're down to do like one round or three minutes right I mean I'd prefer 12 but we okay yeah 12 I mean that my biggest advantage in the ring ring is my cardio I do 12 12 okay so no I have a genuine question so five round I'm not I'm not one have I ever said I'm a UFC fighter no I'm just say we can box I'm just saying that's I'm used to five you want to do three we could do that aren't you trying to be a boxer with your [ __ ] Ryan Garcia call he would knock knock your [ __ ] ass out so quickly it wouldn't be close I'm one and0 pro boxing what are you actually I saw that video I saw video I'm also want to know thank you officially hey they count that's real commiss but uh I didn't mean I didn't mean to take I didn't mean to take over the pot I just wanted to a couple you definitely didn't yeah okay I try I'm trying to help you no we love you go warm up yeah yeah go warm up the bags don't warm up too much though don't get tired how much do you wa right now without Timberlands and jean shorts on high 120 low 13 no without lying though okay that [ __ ] is you think you got you got him one round I think I could beat him I think I can beat him I I think I could handicap myself to three just put on one glove I could do that what do you think actually happens now when you go downstairs and he gets in that ring like what's his plan that's what I don't get about him but that's why it's that's do me a favor that's why he's Cloud it up because love [ __ ] up [ __ ] he's going he's going to try to Yap he's going to try to talk please just go 100% yeah no actually actually please go 100% if he signs a consent form we'll have him no we've already got like multiple consent forms for better media with like death wavers [ __ ] no no no but he needs it he needs that I'll go like 40 no go like 75 Sean I'm I'm going to be honest bro don't even go 20% he's the nice [ __ ] bro don't do that bro you want him to go 100% no no to be honest but just like work with him and then just like maybe just just like a really good punching and then he'll give up 75% uh I'm nervous man I'm shaking for Derek yeah yeah that's good I understand that there a couple flinches if you Flinch hard enough the the wind coming off you will put him down let him walk you down and bait him boom sleeping what's your next upcoming fight a maraba jaaba and when is that uh not nothing yet I'm hoping for September maybe October maybe November maybe December I'm F ready to go baby what if it was next month I wouldn't be ready to go I like I like 10 to 12 weeks 10 to 12 he likes eight I mean I I normally do like 10 yeah just like but I've been super the first few weeks are [ __ ] pre-amps this Camp I'm channeling my Ryan Garcia would you ever do a Ryan Garcia regiment during Camp drink and smoke every night you do a little I I probably yeah I'm not actually doing that for the people out there he's locked in clocked in locked in locked in ready to go yeah May 20th we start but by the time the people see this it'll be uh June or something like that that is crazy you're fighting Mike that you fought Ben asran wrestler good good [ __ ] UFC was really good UF bit Tyron Woodley twice Anderson Silva knockout of the year with Nate Robinson can't forget about deji deji the the the goat do we say Gibb or is that like that's just crazy resume like literally [ __ ] C by way thank you Gib cuz we had a really good party after he knocked you the [ __ ] out who W we're skipping two professional boxers this always no no the recent ones this always happens I'm trying to just think cuz two cuz this is what everybody asked for this is what everybody asked for who who are the two professional boxers you fighted you got to name them Andre August and Ryan Borland go okay people don't people are like fight a pro boxer and then I do and then they're like that was boring as a man of combat he what were 10 and one nine and one nine and one what is your take on his [ __ ] all of his fights and who he's fighting in the competition dude I've been excited as [ __ ] since I started I remember you I remember the first time I watched was the Nate Robinson I watched that one at home and then uh I don't remember what it was after that but I remember watching Ben Asam in Atlanta I think that was the first time we actually met was right after the fight I think we hugged I was like y I picked you up you carried me back to the locker room that it was love at first sight that was crazy actually yeah actually I [ __ ] with him we became best friends like a couple days later you going to leave me hanging no no I would it's my eyebrow but uh yeah no I think he's obviously super skilled I think it's and I I it's inspired me even in the position I'm at UFC World Champ sexy you know what I mean like tall dark handsome TR inspired me just business the business uh side of things that you've done I've always thought putting on massive fight that's why I'm such a huge Conor fan cuz the pay-per-views he's done is so [ __ ] he's been fighting for four years and [ __ ] that he's been doing the massive fights the fights I get excited for there's a few UFC fights the high the big big fights that I get excited for but every time you fought even when uh Logan fought Floyd I was [ __ ] like excited like all fight week so i' I've been inspired from what you've done from a business side from the boxing side they even just start so not late but for a boxer but these boxers start when they're [ __ ] three four years old like Ryan and tank like they're young buck the Tik Tac I sent you of Devon Haney's debut fight yeah it's wild he was fighting a five foot Mexican in a in a bar was it Dante bro if I show you this [ __ ] oh no I did see that I did see that I did see that when you started even seeing that first video fighting Anderson Silva six fights in bro like do you know how insane that is he's one of the greatest correct me if I'm wrong UFC Strikers in history yeah 100% so does that make me one of the greatest UFC Strikers and one of the greatest wrestlers cuz wood but Ben ask was but Nate Diaz is ducking me in MMA oh am crazy I am weak that's a sick fight MMA I I wish it was that would happened right after the boxing same he's actually ducking it which is why it's crazy because he's not he's not in UFC no but we we upped it to 15 million damn that's crazy though that would be a I like Nate Diaz but that would be such a fun buildup he actually doesn't want to do it all Sean how do you genuinely Jake's not here it's me and you in a room actually how do you see that fight going for Jake what MMA him you're not here J for Nate in MMA keep it a bean God it's it's so hard to you're a big [ __ ] right now on what weight would it be5 185 I don't hate I don't I it's not a it's a winable fight for you I really do think that but Nate is so [ __ ] you would have to do what I did against aljo and morab do not let that [ __ ] grab you not that you can't wrestle cuz I know you can wrestle but once he starts grabbing you and doing Jiu-Jitsu if he gets on top his little he likes his little trips it would be hard for you to win I feel like if he if he started grappling just pure Jiu-Jitsu if it let's be real if it goes to the floor is he [ __ ] if he's on his back Nate's not like a super strong guy so if you learn how to like I mean I'm sure you know how to get up to a single legegg stuff like that but then you start getting your neck grabbed I don't know how much Jiu-Jitsu you know I mean Nate's a [ __ ] high Lev black belt um if you could keep it standing 100% there's winnable ways there if he if he went to the ground feel like he might be able to grab your neck no that that's exactly how I feel about it if I don't get guillotined yeah then I win the fight because even if he was on top take your back but even if he was on top of me I would just throw him off of me cuz he's also the weakest puncher I've ever fought like when he was hitting me I was I almost like started laughing I'm I'm not even saying this to talk [ __ ] out of everyone I've sparred in my whole entire life and everyone I fought his punches are even me we I don't think you ever landed a punch on me is that true well that's not true so I don't anyone no I'm literally not even talking [ __ ] which is why I think it's funny that he dropped Connor and [ __ ] cuz it's just like how Conor with like to the ground yeah like with a straight left hand yeah which is crazy like I I'm not just talking [ __ ] when I say that and I've told you I've literally told you this you told me this after the fight yeah I was like he is the weakest puncher I've ever fought in my life who's who's the weakest puncher you've ever you've ever come to face um there I mean there's been so many fights where I later didn't even get hit um uh does that like make you jaded at all when you get into a fight and you don't really get love that [ __ ] I prefer not to get hit at all but like if I was you and I wasn't get hit at all I'd probably work less no no no no I I know I don't get hit because I work that hard so if I didn't work hard I know I'd probably get hit I'm just a lazy [ __ ] so so here you are on top of the world we're launching [ __ ] W going to be a billion dollar business [ __ ] you I always forget uh UFC champ accomplishing all your goals what do you want next uh what are what is the threeyear fiveyear for Sean I I truly do want to get a boxing fight I'm not I'm not super set on that to where like I'm like going to be [ __ ] if it doesn't happen I do think it'll be interesting especially if I go out there knock morab out Ryan does his thing I think there's a [ __ ] sweet fight there if it doesn't happen not that worried about it want to go out there beat morab I'd like to you know if Max Max and Elia fight I would like to fight go move up to 45 fight the winner of that um you know maybe have three to five maybe have a few more kids definitely want another little baby I love kids my fite pump him out shout out to Danny who's your top pick in a boxing fight though if you if you could choose your Ryan now was like the I mean what he after dvon Beat Ryan I was like javante then Ryan goes out there does his thing really though I think Dante do you is that is that not a big [ __ ] leap Ryan like you said before he's been doing this his whole life one thing that's been proven is that the crossover it's it's not a good return Fury he did his thing okay the excep is the exception we've seen it with okay but then Anthony Joshua put his ass t was crazy super night night he was I'm I'm here for big fights like I wanted to get into the UFC and I wanted to make big fights watching Conor versus Floyd I'm like that [ __ ] happened really happened hey you versus Derek that could be as big as Connor in Floyd but no but I I think the craziest [ __ ] about Conor versus Floyd is that overall it was a W for everyone involved so there's certain fights where it just like doesn't matter what happens that's the world we live in yeah I mean UFC told me they said if the if the fight's big enough and it'll make the UFC money they'll do it what means more to you your your your record being pre or the amount of money you're making all right let me ask you something it's about to get real J's drunk Jasper's drunk as [ __ ] y record or money [ __ ] it depends the Gap like like the gap of money if it's like an extra 10 15 20 million but I lose a couple important fights probably not you just take like 150 million I'll be like like [ __ ] my record baby yeah it depends on the gap of money Jake Paul is not here right now just like a Mayweather Conor McGregor you taking that fight ver Jake yeah no he's my buddy I could I mean I don't I don't even no I no funny no there's you know what's funny is always in my Snapchat story once once a day pretty much someone says we knock out Jake Paul like there's every sing all the time for so long people just want to see me get [ __ ] is good though that's like the thing yeah but I'm sensitive it is funny though people [ __ ] love to hate confidence the craziest thing though actually about both of you like I met you very recently like I didn't realize you're as like normal as you are I don't know why I thought you violent like you guys are both like very goofy mellow and stupid and c and and awesome it's like the greatest thing ever like I couldn't believe when I met you you're like one of us like yeah I wouldn't think you're a [ __ ] yeah one of the coolest people in the world for sure yeah but not a lot of people uh can like I don't know we have like a weird it's hard toes Meat Heads I'm like this the this my dog I think it's a little bit of dark humor too it's like some [ __ ] up [ __ ] that we say off camera [ __ ] sometimes but I think it's like there's a certain yeah like that's how my whole group is back home it's like we all just we're all just kind of [ __ ] dumb I'm smart but like they're dumb well someone commented like yo Jake Paul's the dumbest genius in the world and I was just like I say that [ __ ] all the time you wed up the other day and I was like this is the most genius dumbass in the world no jokes Hey Brother chill buddy trying to get me cancelled no what how old are you 23 are you really yeah no you're not he's not is he what do you think think what did you think Oh no you're 267 27 what did you think he was I thought he was older I thought he was like 27 26 yeah a niggaer mature was that ladies you got a boo you got a girl you just be slanging she timeout right now I don't really talk about she don't time out it's a little tricky she not taking care of herself what do you guys think about Tom Brady R you watch it yeah they kept comp panning to you every 5 Seconds bro I swear there's a huge camer sitting there the whole time but it's cool to see Netflix going hard like that cuz they went hard they swing that meat around huha yeah let's pivot yeah just sorry about him I'm drunk man not yeah but but it was it was great it wasar they should have got rid of most of the football players going up there yeah there's a couple ones Ben afflac is that who that was on there that was wild that was so weird that was so weird it was cool to see how [ __ ] less sensitive people are becoming I feel like feel like it's recently like there's a big push back I think people got sick of it we went super super super PC for a long time people were like wait a second we like being able to say what we want to say I saw kill Tony say oh type of crazy [ __ ] on there that watch every [ __ ] Monday you were on kill Tony yeah how old are you actually buddy I'm a comedian Budd full time no yeah I was on that I was nervous as hell though I was like just being it's a live I do podcast once a week like me and Tim do our podcast every [ __ ] week but to be there in front of an audience live it's weird it's a different kind of well so you say Tim but let's let's talk about actually the fact that you get trained by by one of the greatest boxers of all time it's really that's something what's happened like that's crazy working with Canelo as your as your coach that's what I'm saying people don't going to be Ryan but like yeah that is true I never even thought about that for did you even know that this guy proba even know that that orange [ __ ] is nice wait will I get cancelled by the ginger community no you're black oh no my dad my dad's Ginger and I'm I'm like this [ __ ] is ginger bro he be shaving he be shaving his beard and I zoom in zoom in it's it's slightly orange so I'm a quarter ginger on South Park they made fun of Gingers and that [ __ ] made the news I [ __ ] with the ginger people but like y'all [ __ ] you like redhead girls oh yeah was Super Soaker but anyway yeah like y'all [ __ ] is orange and that's okay but back to you one of y'all that's not drunk I got a question cuz this guy clipped out a lot did Tim actually like you guys about him like saying to fight that was yeah that was real Tim always be talking [ __ ] to the like he's been doing that for so long so what happened he just talk I mean he just he Alo the knee's coming Alo you got to shoot Alo watch out for this like he's been saying that since I've been in the UFC like my debut vers terion where he was talking [ __ ] to terion too and uh he just does it every fight but this happened to just be crazy timing to like Tim you got Tim like alre you got to go and like literally he he like that's when he threw that left hand or whatever stepped into Southpaw and uh or stepped into Orthodox and got dropped it was it was funny the timing because he's like Al you got to go I don't I truly don't think that's why that's not why Alo went I bet you could I bet Alo didn't even hear that but Tim's always chirping and stuff but people on the internet are [ __ ] mad about that a lot of them actually like it I'll say majority of people are thinking that's the funniest [ __ ] ever there's a couple [ __ ] that are like you should be banned think it's a fight would you run the alra fight back or one and done never I like that why would I yeah am I supposed to top that you know what I'm saying I got love for Alo we had him on the show and he he seems like a good dude I actually don't mind Alo I does that ever happen where like you'll have a personal relationship with someone personal runin with them and it's all great but then now all of a sudden you have to fight each other I've never had I've not of running with someone that's been like uh more than like I've ran into aljo morab at the UFC I'm like hey what's up talk to him a little bit you know nothing no ill will um but I haven't had like a run with someone I actually lik them mhm and then at the fight them so you're not friends with any any other UFC fighters oh I have a there's there's a couple guys in my in my weight class that I train with at the lab that are like climbing the r uh ladders what happened with uh the 125 pounder I I don't even know his name and I'm not I'm just not like yeah what's his name I Alexander pania bro this story is actually kind of funny so 2016 I think it was it was like 3 and0 4 and0 and I was still fighting at like I fought at 125 not too long before that I fought at like 130 which is in a weight class was like so I wasn't like a 155 like I am now I was probably like 14 back then and uh Henry cejudo comes in I'm three or four and0 at the point at this point it comes in with this kid Alexander PTO just won The Ultimate Fighter I think he's got his UFC debut or it's his second UFC fight he's a couple weeks out from his fight I'm [ __ ] the night before me and Tim ripping bongs like hanging out being goofballs and [ __ ] so the next morning so we brought him in for sparring hry sudo brings in Alexander you're 4-0 he's King [ __ ] he he's just won The Ultimate Fighter and so they write the names on on the board who who you're sparring I'm like oh [ __ ] I got Alexander Pantoja versus me for one round one round he has three rounds so you write one one name then usually you you spar with one guy then they go out you spar with a fresh guy they go out spar with the fresh guy that's usually how it works so my name was just up there for one round that's it we Spar one round I didn't know anything about him cuz I I didn't really watch it like that 25 I don't really watch 25ers like that but somebody's like oh [ __ ] that's he a black belt he just won The Ultimate Fighter I was like oh [ __ ] I got to [ __ ] Focus up here first round boom Dro him with a liver kick and I wasn't going to post I record all my rounds I have so many sparring rounds like I wasn't going to post it was and for some reason I don't know why he would talk [ __ ] and bring it up cuz I literally I don't know you know know I don't know if you know how it works but you finish a guy the fight's over right no no did he um so I finished him the first round he hit him boom with the liver I posted the video yesterday and I've had it for a long time I didn't want to post it CU you don't post sparring like that but he just kept bringing it up so boom finished him first round um then uh after the first round round I go to walk out and Henry's over there crying box of Kleenex just like [ __ ] wiping his tears crying we want you for a second round so mad that this little like I was nobody just finished his dude he's in the UFC he's supposed to be the man finish him in the first round so Henry's crying saying he wants another round um so I piece him up again in the second round and I'm I'm dying at this point my lungs are burning I'm not in shape for fight I I'm nowhere near in Camp for a fight and I my lungs are hurting and uh Henry again crying blowing his nose and like I want you for a third and Benson comes in Benson Henderson absolute Legend comes in and was yelling cuz that's his it was the his gym the MMA lab we don't let people come in our gym and make us tired and blah blah blah and I'm [ __ ] just just huffing and puffing I just got done work in this dude for 10 minutes finished him in the first round did I say that liver kick um we'll put the footage I have the foot yeah it's right there insert the footage so third round come out boom piece him up again and he's so I don't know why he keeps bringing up this bringing this up in the media I think it's because people ask him but I don't know why he doesn't just say yeah yeah no no I don't want to talk about it he keeps saying like he's like oh I got in I found his range and [ __ ] I'm like bro you you stopped him in one round stopped him in round one and let him live and continue to fight for round two these delusional uh like wild people are weirdos but the reason I posted cuz he kept bringing it up exactly wait so is he the champ now at 125 yeah okay but why does he still want to talk [ __ ] to you if you got [ __ ] up that's what I'm saying I don't know either either you drop to 125 and get that no I can't drop to 125 that's too much now you're a thick [ __ ] I am a thick but yeah I SP I think it's important for up and cominging Spar uh fighters to record their rounds and watch their rounds not for that this reason you know but just to I've improve so much watching my sparring y I have thousands of rounds maybe not thousands hundreds of rounds from 10 years ago on my on my computer of uh it's like NFL team is watching footage the time [ __ ] 100% got to watch that [ __ ] that's I I have every single round recorded and and again I I don't post sparring either exactly you know put in a highlight video make a vlog boom we're sparring people but it's never like [ __ ] up your guy yeah exactly but Mike Perry honestly like what he's been doing is pretty Fu he went to Bare knuckle that [ __ ] just meant for him bare knuckle fighting it's crazy different going crazy he's doing good he's [ __ ] undefeated over there he's beating some really good guys stay over here [ __ ] [ __ ] only place that you should be getting tickets from is game time.co it's it's the only place I go it is the only place you can possibly go they have 110% price match guarantee that's what we use to get our tickets for the NBA Finals you can get $20 off your first order go to gametime.co JJ a $20 off your first order they're doing a deal specifically for y'all and you could see where your tickets are before you buy them seeing the seats they have all of the these great policies last 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platform there is Mike Paul versus Jake Tyson here's my official prediction tell us and even if even if it's against me like it's not it's not I do think you're going to beat Mike Tyson uh it's crazy that I even saying that out loud right now cuz you're fighting Mike Tyson it's [ __ ] crazy even just when we were walking down the the street today people all genders all ages knew you were fighting Mike Tyson it's such a massive fights live on Netflix which is [ __ ] crazy it's in a stadium which is [ __ ] crazy it is crazy I believe in you I see what you I see what you're doing I see you know that you believe in yourself Mike Tyson is uh hasn't fought in however long it's been so for him to just come up and get a fight be I I'm sure is going to be in as good a shape as he possibly could be in but it's just you know it's it's it's it's not his time right now I love Mike Tyson I never actually met him but I love Mike Tyson I do think Jake's gonna get the job done and I do think eight rounds eight two-minute rounds eight two-minute rounds I believe I believe you could put them away in the later rounds you know five six seven eight I do think you could put it put him down which is crazy to even [ __ ] think you rap yeah that's fire I'm just lazy and inconsistent that's not a w no that sh it is not you start using Brandon yell at him every day but cuz you can actually spit that's fire no but but people know him now from like podcasting they don't know he's a rapper and hurts his soul J sick name Lil jizz what J JZ that's good that's good you should switch your [ __ ] I switch my [ __ ] from come Master to kill Jas bro honestly though that's I think singing rapping spitting is one of the things that if I could switch talents be doing something like that that's good or twerking I ain't going to lie you shook that [ __ ] earlier I got a I got a thing on me you that [ __ ] wiggle a little bit let's let's pivot though cuz yep hit a pivot uh yeah do we have a speaker should we play Jasper's new song or something you got a new one I thought you were lazy some new [ __ ] go ahead play on your phone just put it in the speaker put it in the mic too this the [ __ ] I'm dropping when I'm Indie that sound decent I'm not rapping either I'm yapping that's not going to get you drunk yo I made this beat that's crazy I like the way you look I won't lie you got something I need you my with a fly girl like you doing with no guy a little sh don't really go outside I'm not crazy right place and right time you all smiles and pretty light brown [Music] [Music] like that better if I forget you but I just can't time saying do better and I'm sure you can find that guy that's worth all right cut it cut it cut it that's that's enough that's enough that's enough that's enough for real can't give the whole thing it's not out yet yeah hey good [ __ ] that's fire I'll be rapping though but that's some pop [ __ ] just cuz I can do it so why are you consistent cuz I'm lazy and jaded and and spoiled yeah it's unfortunate maam shout out to the homies for a lot of talented people out there that just are yeah don't smoke crack yo also there there is a parallel there don't do don't do that there's a parallel with the same thing he's talking about I think Fighters probably where it's like you could have all the talent in the world he's got that's why I get so [ __ ] mad at him it's cuz he has all the talent in the world really I get more pissed off than he gets and he could be a superstar but he just is lazy he doesn't put the work in he's not he's not strategic and it is hard when you got when you live in a crib in Puerto Rico right you got chefs and [ __ ] and you fly private with me yeah that's it that's it bro that's it you got to you got get paychecks and [ __ ] y'all got to evict me that's not a bad idea honestly I think we talked about it let's make I was I'm H we had a conversation but I just can't I can't because I love you so much I need you but then I'll probably be more like need you y yeah I guarante and then we you would still have to like fly in once a week to to do the pods and it would be resentment and then I I'll go out like and I'll try to start shooting at y'all oh my God I guarantee I would be in the position I'm in if I if I had money and like had already made it like financially had [ __ ] I wouldn't have made it that's why people think I'm crazy but CC the other side of it is like boom right so I'm from com California same hey shout out my [ __ ] yeah man I was homeless for the first half of my life mom's a drug addict dad's a gang member I've never had anything in my life right and my whole life has been music I dropped out in ninth grade I was like I'm going to make music my dad kicks me out he's like you can't live under this roof like be more like your brothers my brothers are [ __ ] star students one got a full ride scholarship loser all all type of [ __ ] nerd ass [ __ ] all those [ __ ] are fat and unemploy now one dropped out of school a full rise scholarship and is just sitting at home right so boom from having nothing to like me saying I'm going to risk everything that I have in my life to become a music artist and it works I get to a certain place and I'm like damn I did exactly I hit a ceiling right so it's like now I had to recalibrate he got a big record deal and then and then like use I crashed out and became a m addict for four four days a week for 30 like 90 days oh it's not bad but then I moved cuz my homeboy was like you need to move and I was like nah [ __ ] that I made a million I ain't going to move I'm going to maintain this lifestyle I'm a junkie but I'm rich yep I crashed out and was like yeah I need to move lost 60 lbs went to Puerto Rico locked in recalibrated and now I'm ready to be but that's that's here's the problem we run into now is that you've recalibrated and now it's still it's been 6 months the album's supposed to be 6 months ago and we're still waiting for the album that's the problem and that's what you got to work on never too late though let's start it let's get because you're vitamin deficient right yeah yeah cuz like a lot of people can't think straight when they're vitamin deficient and all that a week ago kind of elaborated on that so yeah this isn't therapy um I got shout out Suzie right right huh Susie but she's hot is she not you think my therapist you guys got the same one I could pee and vape on this podcast I got to go pee go pee I could pee yeah I mean I think we I think we end the episode because uh let's wrap it up you can get W available at Walmart anyway if you walk into Walmart whether you with your mom your daddy you by yourself you go in that [ __ ] men body care aisle you buy that and comment down below what you thought of the episode for um us being brain fried over and uh jper but Buzz also comment cuz this coming out when the product releases comment your favorite scent and sent $10,000 right no I'm send you 1,000 I ain't 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you have better day with a record of no wins no losses I beat ste's [ __ ] out no anything he is 5'7 120 lbs lost in the mile to better JoJo but he's still delusional in his fighting career and to my left in the winning Corner sponsored by W sugar sha Ali The Undefeated UFC champion of the world it's time to fight bring it to the center we already spoke about the rules in the locker room beforehand give me your glove give me your hand touch gloves I want a clean fair fight no no hits below the waist back to your Corners time you ready judge you ready and fight [Music] [Applause] I'm out of balance or something oh do Dodge that [ __ ] hold on hold on hold on hold [ __ ] come on come on just oh my God one back of the head no no no back of the head four ref didn't see it five six me in the eyes Walk This Way Walk This Way for me he's running Walk This Way for me my car run all right and we're in in that right that's called all right time time time one two that was a that was a slip four up six bro Rizo what the [ __ ] are you doing all right get up SLP all right come on time in come on got come on got you [ __ ] black I'm going to I need to work I need to see some work black UT D somebody said 10 seconds like 8 seconds ago all right great back to your corner back to your corner back to your corner stay in there you're doing good right now this feel good I feel good do you see that one I landed clean on his face I think we all terrible shut the [ __ ] up for once in your [ __ ] life shut the [ __ ] up Sean's doing half punches on him shut up I'll act like uh no don't act like bro I'm just I'm putting in work all right how this how you when you [ __ ] beat the old wash UFC fighters everybody comments you're fighting old was UFC fighters what do you think 10s I think they're right in in round two round two round two oh got him [ __ ] oh [Music] [ __ ] hey put that hey that that's a that's going to be a 10 count can't get me by the that's going to be a 10 count that's going to be a 10 count next time back in the just there going to be a 10 count next time get in there give me real quick get him with some you thank you perfect okay BL I'm going to need to see some more one two back to your corner white Corner neutral Corner 5 6 seven eight n look at me thank you bro come on you want to fight do you want to fight when I do you want to fight yes yeah wait wait time back in wake up time time time time time I promise okay it's to the floor the rules of transfer to MMA tap tap tap he's St he's T he's ta all right I block out all right you're good to go wait wait the fight was over get the [ __ ] out of the ring oh it's over it's over it's over it's over go you got it's over it's over it's over [Music]	said the [ __ ] ring so we can after this we have a ring 2 feet away and he's a [ __ ] and whatever else you was saying to me yeah he's [ __ ] what about my hair say something about my hair I I already said that at the W shoot that you look like you haven't 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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXPZ1KzdpsY	4,103	mXPZ1KzdpsY	2024-06-20 00:00:00	well well well ladies and gentlemen do we have a special episode for you today none other than sugar Shan om Ali the current UFC bantamweight champion a legend in his own right this episode was off the cusp we were a little turned up Jasper was really really drunk so we weren't really prepared for this at all the conversations definitely got wild and obviously as you guys have seen over maybe the past week or so we launched a new company called w am men's carine in Walmart this company is so near and dear to my heart and I partnered with Shawn to bring this Vision to life amongst other celebrities artists and athletes that we are announcing over the next couple of weeks here get your w at Walmart it is very very very very very good stuff and yes you heard the news I am fighting Mike Perry on July 20th it is going down I'm still fighting Mike Tyson November 15th that is happening but I'm staying active knocking out Mike Perry on July 20th and I'm excited for y'all to listen to this episode and he the vision of w how it all came together and how Shawn got involved and then everything to do with Shawn's career this podcast has been a long time coming but prepare yourself for some idiocracy per usual uh this is [ __ ] with Jake Paul we have a secret handshake check it out AC let me get that stop playing mean yeah we created that because we actually have so many things to get into here this has been a long time coming Jasper did bring up something and the reason W was created was because the other products in the category had harmful dyes parabens sulfates hormone disruptors and so we wanted to create the better for you vitamin infused product and and Sean's a co-owner just signed today yesterday for the show but we we'll get into all of that we we've been you know bringing sea on for like we've been talking for like a month and a half yes sir yes sir um it is currently May we've been doing a lot of shoots this podcast will probably come out at post W launch you can get I'm so drunk I'm sorry y'all you can get it in uh Walmart every Walmart you in Paca Walmart get it in you in Pensacola it's in Walmart in Kentucky Walmart Walmart so basically uh we we brought in the greatest people in the world to help build W and Sean is one of those people but dialing everything back we will get into the company the body washes how this all came about but uh we've been wanting to do this podcast and thanks for joining us BR hey guys hey thanks for joining us right did you uh yeah I did you sh for an hour bro did you did you do do we know do we set the stage of the day and the fact that Jasper's slash right now okay cool y drunk is a [ __ ] y like double drunk yep yep yep you drunk yeah all that so um but just winding everything back uh I think we've been friends for a long time in fact you were the first guest on this show oh [ __ ] crazy Zoom crazy that's right that's right that's right the first ever episode you zoomed in and that's crazy we're thankful we're thankful for our friendship and it's pretty cool that now we're here again today uh getting less views than before and that's fire that's it congratulations less views we're not we're not it was it was a joke it was a joke if you watching this please like and comment cuz we falling off right now but man by the time this comes out you're going to be getting ready for me RAB how do you say his name I don't remember morab is iTab or or I don't know me that's got to be it me but you got to say it with the emphasis look meab mirab meab meab there you go there you go so yeah I should be getting ready hopefully I ain't got nothing scheduled hopefully uh you know Uncle Dana will call me say hey buddy you want to fight in in here and there and there and then I'm d b boom and that that's how that works what's up with everybody on your body though everybody talking [ __ ] even people youat I wanted to bring up yeah and he's like saying like he's trying to post about you even yesterday it is weird but when you concuss someone you know what I just say they don't think as well as they used to so I think he's still concussed and he's a little confused because he's talking [ __ ] still he not in his right mind because I can just throw up another post go because it's a throwback Thursday it's a throwback Friday do you think do you think people don't respect you enough cuz I I see that as your friend an unbiased like they just see social media and podcasts and the the hair and stuff like that and then they just sh week but I [ __ ] with you I appr that um I don't think it is well you can't you know I think it's fine I think you're jealous I ain't going to lie I got some inches under here let's smell that hair you can smell my [ __ ] must who I do think I feel a little bit disrespected as the champ but I think that last fight against Che kind of you know shut a little bit of people up canny go five rounds Cheeto beat me before the Alo fight um shut a lot of people up canny grapple didn't have to Grapple cuz he couldn't take me down yeah Alo couldn't take you down I think that was the biggest thing where they were like yo that's his weakness like yeah wrestle him down and then he just proved everyone wrong that's what's so interesting about this morab fight is he's supposedly well he is he's [ __ ] good at wrestling he's really really good at wrestling he's boring as [ __ ] and no one will there won't be one comment saying yeah right he's actually kind of fun not one person I'm com won I'm com you can I ask you something would you put yourself in your own top five Strikers in the UFC oh I'm yeah yo easily who's your Mount Rushmore strikker well I I mean I would unbiasedly I would put him as number one because adna is in like top three but he also like got beat by put that [ __ ] down boy he did uh bro I'm up there I'm up there Max is really good Max super his striking that's a good top five there that's four me Max Elia adaga uh I'm sure I'm missing some your with a one would it be that's that's a minus one Mount rmore is four yeah but I only got four but if you throw the five in it's a plus one isn't there only four yeah but but you ready to throw the five up I'm four all right that's my more but yeah once again uh this is a [ __ ] ass podcast so we apologize hey but something something you just touched on you talked about Fighters being fun and interesting how much and you're you're a superstar how much of you being a superstar how much of any fighter being a superstar comes down to them being fun and interesting as you are and how much of it comes down to their actual fighting good question uh well who's a super who who obviously Connor comes to mind I think he's he's a character he's fun he's interesting who else comes to mind is like a superstar I would say Izzy gives that off I think he's an interesting guy other than that there's not like a ton of fun like Ryan Garcia is doing a really good job right now of being [ __ ] interesting being a character uh I think that's fentel I think it's drugs as well I wouldn't deny that but he's still making people interested in Ryan versus Devon Haney was an interesting fight not because Devon Haney that dude's boring as [ __ ] you think he did them roids no I don't think Ryan did I think Devon needs to take that L he being a [ __ ] about I think the craziest [ __ ] you said to me and like I don't even know if we want to put this in there or bring it up but we we can always remove it but uh because of your your situation with the ostarine and you said to me like and it I like fully felt your energy you're like I swear on my daughter's life I never did that and you got popped for it yeah same thing happened uh to Ryan right now he popped for aost the low super low level a some [ __ ] like a trillionth of a gr the same thing happened to me uh so when that came out with Ryan like I truly truly didn't believe he took anything because it was the same [ __ ] and it happens to a lot of [ __ ] ostarine happens to how does that happen it's called the tainted supplement so if you're taking anything that has protein in it that's not third party tested uh could not just protein any kind of supplement that's not third party tested it's either NSF or there's a bunch of different third party tests but if you're not if you're taking something that doesn't have that there's chances there could be something in it but austram people pop for that all the time my case was not that big of a deal cuz I wasn't as huge of a star as I am now but it still was like a big deal because of my name the reason it's going so crazy right now is because Ryan G is a superstar so people are freaking out but it happens to a lot of athletes I just before we move past it I just on that Superstar topic how is that is that Superstar factor that that someone like you has someone like Ryan has someone like Connor has is it something you're born with or is it is it a practice is it something you can learn and do you sit back and like think like oh how can I go viral today how can I I think it's both I think you have to want to be a superstar there's some guys in the UFC like I want to make more money I want this I want that but they don't really want to be a superstar you you got to want it you got to you got to have some kind of vision a long time before well and and also like who you are as a person you have to have that like Fire Within still though like before you got into want famous I want to be in the NFL I want to be NBA I wanted to be a [ __ ] athlete when I was young was instilled I was just for whatever reason I wanted to make it when I was young I'm from H in Montana like small ass can I ask you something what's your opinion on like the take b nickel takes like where he's like super friendly and humble and like I think he's a sweet ass [ __ ] they love him but like bro that [ __ ] pisses me off I think that [ __ ] is cool too n like you're a hum like [ __ ] talk your [ __ ] you're what 670 like bro talk your [ __ ] like it it kind of bores me no I get yeah I mean that's that's some people's opinion is like he's too nice too humble too that but he's being himself um but he's also super young in the sport I think he and he's still pretty what is he 28 you're in a sport of War if I was playing like [ __ ] Cricket I would be like yeah like but that's that's the thing is for for for a character like him what it seems like is that's what he's in is the sport of war and that's it he's not in the sport of entertainment he's a nice ass sweetheart get there is some people that that understand both sides of things but I also have respect for and I see when someone's that's strictly in the sport of if I play chess with you I'm going to be like good game and I'm going to shake your hand I talk [ __ ] be F ass to a PO it I'm going to be like [ __ ] you you need to get better at whatever you're doing dial dialing it back a little bit um to the aost stream thing I think it's like what do you think about Conor tweeting still at like 3:00 a.m. like coked out he he he he sent shots at me and Ryan talking [ __ ] but it's it's crazy coming from Connor who literally got out of the usada pool to do steroid like legit steroids so it's kind of wild and I was the biggest Connor fan for a long time in the last couple weeks ever since he sent that wasn't even a couple weeks ago probably a week ago I've been trying to hate him I've been trying to be like [ __ ] you Connor but I can't I love Connor I it's like I am excited for his fight coming up I'm excited I want you know I'm all about it what's the fight is it Chandler Chandler in June it's going to be big they just been trying to do it for a long time so I didn't know if it still still I think officially I think it's I think I think the craziest part about it is what like eight weeks before a fight that he's still like coked and drunk out of his mind who you got though who that's a good it is crazy that he still like he tweeted that deleted like 20 minutes later he was definitely [ __ ] up on well that's what I was going to say we can't just Grace past that do you is that that's a that's a bold thing to say do you you know he's on coke is that a is that are you [ __ ] gills I don't know anything but I know for certain that he's brother like look at the time of the tweets and look at what he's saying like also and he's like known for this simar tweets yeah yeah I don't know just manic brother I think he is I do think Ryan is I think he when he said he was playing into it a little bit I I think he's kind of using that I think he's [ __ ] crazy what what what would happen if you and Ryan boxed that's I mean there's only one way to find out he has a lot better chances of beating me in a boxing match than he does in a real fight keep up I do I I [ __ ] I truly believe in myself that's how I got to the [ __ ] position I'm in right now I can box I can throw hands um I don't think it'd be easy by any means I do think it's possible I beat him I'm not saying my my odds are great but I do believe I could beat Ryan Bo if there was anybody you could box for your first boxing match debut who are you Bo give an easy fight give me Deon Haney you give [Laughter] me honest answer uh I mean if we're I I would say Floyd if I Pi if I could sit here and pick who I box first boxing fight I pick Floyd because it would be the biggest most crazy most legendary fight maybe not most legendary some people for me okay but outside of that on a skill based level oh I I could hang with some good [ __ ] pro boxers I'm undefeated in boxing you think you think if you and uh ilot boxed that' be ilot is very very [ __ ] skilled boxing that's an interesting question so who what what professional boxer would you equate your PA Mike Tyson I know of Devon Haney now because Ryan Garcia beat him uh dvon Davis he's really short I know him um maybe smacking [ __ ] up though he does he that little guy he can't he can't ride roll coasters though that is true so there's a there's a tradeoff like Cruz fight he was riding a roller coaster no like I'm talking about like at the fair oh no you know like there there's a trade-off in life you know where things get weird it's like it's like yo he's really good but you can't even just hit Dante fan brother can't even ride the top not a Dante fan that's not what I'm wait what did what did I say to say I'm not a you didn't say I mean I don't think he knows that it's a short joke I don't think he picked up on you want me tell him I was joking shut the [ __ ] up I get I say that was a joke I'm what are you trying to say I'm but are you trying to insinuate that I'm short no honestly you're probably what five you're 5'9 you're like 5' seven and a half stop doing stop doing it stop doing that cuz [ __ ] is going to see this and be like he's 5'6 actually if you watching this and you think I'm 5'6 and you want to try me in person please any [ __ ] who see me out I'm punching your [ __ ] out I'm like 5'9 on a good day when when I'm lying to women I'm 5'10 for sure who's gonna ID me I'm wearing forces I'm a [ __ ] liar all right so now for the truth jakee he's like what like he's 5 No but don't do that bro all right all right we won't we'll cut that out like yeah n don't cut it out n don't see me and see these but you know dvon is 5'5 legit that's cool bro I know but is that not short just be honest is that five five short for a grown man for a grown man is that short you can be a fan I'm not I'm a fan of javante and he's five that's a little little bro all right the joke went over his head anyways so the short joke [ __ ] is trying to play me like I'm short no no no we're we're not we're not you're [ __ ] tall all right let's pivot yeah so um SI yeah sh shout out to the shout out to the pivot but but yeah like Jasper's a little riled up things are on edge he's a little he's a little turned up it's been a long day a long two days we've been shooting uh because we have a new [ __ ] company did we say we talk about that yet I we said in the beginning raise your arms up [ __ ] goed [ __ ] goed shout out to w a fun few days it's been a fun few days days you're going to see the content rolling out um but you speaking of but Ruby Rose did a good job oh my God I wanted to bite that M listen anyway if you're near wmart if you're watching this right now I don't give a [ __ ] what you're doing you could be taking care of your kid you could be taking care of your elderly parents [ __ ] them go to Walmart June 1st Nationwide I don't care if you in Pensacola you in Massachusetts all in places that sound [ __ ] stupid there's a Walmart there and you go there it's a better for you product vitamin ifuse number [ __ ] one yeah no basically I I think dialing back like the business story of it because you're also like a very smart businessman intellectual doing everything you do in and outside of the Ring which a lot of people don't have which contributes to you being uh the biggest in my opinion the biggest UFC star um but yeah we we basically I guess this is the podcast where we tell people where W came from but um we started building this company like a year and a half ago and really saw how all these other companies like as we move into better for you products and less harmful products we saw how the leaders in the space didn't have the best formulas didn't have the best manufacturing had all of these harmful substances in it and we're also brands from when I was like 9 years old I don't want to list names but they're still like having all the Shelf space in stores and I was just like this is wild like this is boring this is lame the the the we need something new we need something that's better uh males have vitamin uh deficiencies like crazy especially with magnesium Jasper just can't get enough of it uh especially with magnesium um and biotin is in the body wash uh vitamin E one two of the best vitamins for your skin and hair um but as The Story Goes long story short we we come up with this brand that represents so many things um but I think winning in everyday life whether you're the valedictorian whether you are the high school jock whether you're philanthropist now you have a product that you can embody and wear every single day that's increasing your vitamin intake that is less harmful to you that's where the idea came from and just being the winning formula in category uh went to Walmart pitched them the whole idea they [ __ ] loved it helped us build the brand even and come up with the scent profiles and all the things that are the the most popular um and this has been something I've wanted to do for so long we had to bring in the best people to be a part of it the winners in their category and that's number one Numero Uno sha Ali here um and he instantly saw the vision and already in the past couple of days it's been like super fun filming all the content behind yeah I was pumped when you [ __ ] called me appreciate you thinking of me and uh excited to help grow this business [ __ ] it's needed it's needed we're going to take over the whole bathroom you know tooed if you [ __ ] with the dogs and cows and chickens dog in you I know what I got that dog in me and I use it so be dog free baby am I missing anything with that no I think that was great the one the one thing I would touch on and you did in a way but it's it is body wash it is body spray it is deodorant but it also is there's an ethos that stands behind this brand which is the ethos that you stand for and it's the ethos that you stand for and the ethos that you stand for and the one that I stand for if I say ethos again I'm GNA start stumbling over my words but it's it's it's like you said it it doesn't the winners in life aren't just you you're on a big stage in life you're you're you're crushing it in every aspect financially you're a star you're leading your sport that's awesome on every [ __ ] level it's it's an encouragement to to young men all around the world to [ __ ] get up off their ass and get sh it don't matter if you score high on a test you whatever the [ __ ] it is that you do well maybe not so it matters what the [ __ ] you do but it also doesn't matter what the [ __ ] you do anybody is a winner as long as you put in the work and you have the will to win and I love it I I would say that's wrong I would say that not anybody is a winner and I think that's something that the brand also stands for like you really got to win you got to as you have the will to win no I'm just saying I think that's an important point cuz we live in a world today where a lot of people think everybody can be a winner that's not true if you Los you might be a loser and if you're a loser the good news is there's a hidden l in the logo actually we'll trace it for you with our graphic design team there's a hidden l in the logo because and I I I wanted to make sure that was was a thing because the biggest loss of my life turned out to be the biggest W in my life and I always had the saying like two L's make a w and when I lost to Tommy Fury it was embarrassing all these things but I realized I wasn't focused I wasn't as locked in as I could be the team around me from a boxing standpoint wasn't good I was having personal issues with relationships and all of these things that I had to shed and grow from and I grew into this new and completely different person but I wouldn't have done that if I didn't lose on the biggest stage possible and I think that was part of the ethos ethos ethos ethos of the brand was to encourage people that in their lowest moments to turn those into into their biggest W's eventually when Jake just said that the biggest loss of his life ended up being the biggest W of his life you said same yeah yeah same what what was that story for supposedly lost for lost to Cheeto back in 2020 August it it was I mean it sucked at the time but I it didn't suck too bad because I was like okay I didn't lose because I you know and it was different I wasn't I mean I was focused everything went good training camp everything was good but I was like that sucks I'm goingon to get that back someday when the time is right and then my last fight two two months ago in Miami headline I'm the champ defending my belt against that same guy how rewarding was that three and a half years later August three and a half years later boom beat his ass as a fan of yours it made it so sweet because of all the doubters that constantly like put you down and didn't believe in you and said he was going to destroy you and then you he literally like you embarrass him that was a performance of a life you embarrassed the [ __ ] out of him and I think that's literally a prime example of turning l l into into a w and I really that's what that's where the hidden l in the brand in the logo is um and representing that every single day when you see these products in your bathroom and when we say we have a saying it's not just a product it's a lifestyle absolutely trademarked Incorporated All Rights Reserved 2024 brother uh but but yeah man it's it's an honor to have you a part of this and uh we we really made what we think are the best products on the market from the body wash being exfoliating vitamin infused to the body spray what we found out is a lot of these fragrances like you get like these high-end designer brands that have like $500 colognes turns out it only cost them a dollar to make that and they're literally making like $499 on top of that so we had a fine fragrance house is what these places are called and we got the super expensive scents and gave it to people to what they're worth like we're not trying to these products are super super affordable and I think it's so funny because that's the world we live in where like you just label something and get like a European girl to go this is one of the lower priced men's care products on the market yeah if I'm not mistaken and it's it's the $500 fragrance in the affordable bottle because we want everyone we've been using a body wash in the past two days since we got the samples after the shoot and I personally want to say I got the in there you could bleep it out whatever you want to do W's winning n b genuinely that's that's the saying is the it's winning formula cuz it really is like it really is if if we're going to call our company [ __ ] W it has to be the best we the winners winning product indeed indeed winning customers all that type of [ __ ] indeed better Derek today he's just got a punch I'm not Li I talked to him before he left he wants to punch you up bro he's got a punchable face I like him though it's weird it's like God I like that guy but I want [ __ ] KO pick him up and like it's okay boom one more to the liing me earlier and I'm just letting you know don't shoot the messenger on God he said he wants to get in the ring with you I can call him really he oh yeah he he you want to call him yeah where is he at is wait uh no call no call he's coming up oh um he's talking smack he said he actually wants a spar I swear to God he said he wants to get percentage should I go you guys I literally out let that's crazy timeing saying talk [ __ ] to my face if you're going to talk [ __ ] that's crazy timing what were you saying they were telling me you want to get in the ring and Spar bit or they didn't say Spar they said fight yeah I'm down to do either but uh yeah no I'm just sick of the [ __ ] [ __ ] you've been saying on your podcast uh you called me you made fun of my weight and you called me gay I did not no I well okay okay you said that he wouldn't ever say that what you got to say what your chest that's what I just [ __ ] said bro I he was like oh if I if stand on it you talking to him you talking to him you ain't talking to me my assistant Sono would would piece you he's never boxed a day he never I'm here to fight your video I'm here to fight you what did I what was the first thing I said to you when when I saw you what was the first thing I said to you that we could fight no I said you look thick wait but when we were talking earlier weren't you saying he's a [ __ ] and you wanted to get a ring with him and all type [ __ ] what I'm saying right now say it then I just said the [ __ ] ring so we can after this we have a ring 2 feet away and he's a [ __ ] and whatever else you was saying to me yeah he's [ __ ] what about my hair say something about my hair I I already said that at the W shoot that you look like you haven't showered in [ __ ] a week okay all right d hey buddy hey hey what's your long-term play not no but see you guys you guys are making me seem crazy you're out of your mind he Derek Dereck go warm up hit the hit the heavy back H the warm up is almost listen legendary as send location dble PIV go warm up hey hey double pivot sit sit I'm not [ __ ] no I I'll sit and talk but I'm not [ __ ] no sit on the floor walk you want to take my seat hey how much how much of what's going on ch ch how much of what's going on is is a character versus like actual delusion how much is a character yeah decent uh I would say there are times where I know what I have to do for my boxing career to like like we all why is he laughing cuz you said career I beat your [ __ ] boy your [ __ ] [ __ ] bro you know what I I recall you did beat I recall calling steiny saying what the [ __ ] was that buddy I love steiny but I do remember watching that and thinking I wasn't proud of that I was not proud of that from steiny and I wish I wish he would come to the gym I wish he'd get in there I wish he'd train a little bit and I wish he would have a rematch but that's on him I've been trying to get the rematch but he's been ding me do you think Derek won he said I won I thought I thought he won I'd have to rewatch but I do think I come on baby the comments have [ __ ] dragged me for months after that [ __ ] 99% of the comments say I lost so please say it one more time Sean no I said it what I said it's like therapy or something no but to answer your question uh we all know uh uh as Fighters there's a side of promotion stop [ __ ] first of all Gus shut the [ __ ] up our our audio guys uh like can't stop laughing is that the facial his facial hair or is what he's saying bro that's bold of you to talk facial hair bro that's bold of you to I'm not Li you look dirty you look like Jeffrey done training right Jesus I train every day but anyway we know like there's two sides of of promotion as well as the actual athletic competition that is Combat Sports so there are times where I might play up a little bit like hey promoting but let him go let him go all right if you if all if you think I'm all promoting that I'll see you in the [ __ ] ring and I'll knock both you either of you out well um well Jake's a [ __ ] fat [ __ ] right now he weighs like 240 so I got I goty I gotta pick my words wisely like he's Jake's 240 I I know I know but like I'm not going to sit here and pick a fight against somebody that's 240 when I'm se's my weight class when I stopped you in one round like just like but when I was getting started out of come this is where I'm at since then I told him he could have somebody tag team I'm down I'm down to fight anybody in this [ __ ] room not one person in this room I'm the best part about this is like uh right after this we I think you're you're down to do like one round or three minutes right I mean I'd prefer 12 but we okay yeah 12 I mean that my biggest advantage in the ring ring is my cardio I do 12 12 okay so no I have a genuine question so five round I'm not I'm not one have I ever said I'm a UFC fighter no I'm just say we can box I'm just saying that's I'm used to five you want to do three we could do that aren't you trying to be a boxer with your [ __ ] Ryan Garcia call he would knock knock your [ __ ] ass out so quickly it wouldn't be close I'm one and0 pro boxing what are you actually I saw that video I saw video I'm also want to know thank you officially hey they count that's real commiss but uh I didn't mean I didn't mean to take I didn't mean to take over the pot I just wanted to a couple you definitely didn't yeah okay I try I'm trying to help you no we love you go warm up yeah yeah go warm up the bags don't warm up too much though don't get tired how much do you wa right now without Timberlands and jean shorts on high 120 low 13 no without lying though okay that [ __ ] is you think you got you got him one round I think I could beat him I think I can beat him I I think I could handicap myself to three just put on one glove I could do that what do you think actually happens now when you go downstairs and he gets in that ring like what's his plan that's what I don't get about him but that's why it's that's do me a favor that's why he's Cloud it up because love [ __ ] up [ __ ] he's going he's going to try to Yap he's going to try to talk please just go 100% yeah no actually actually please go 100% if he signs a consent form we'll have him no we've already got like multiple consent forms for better media with like death wavers [ __ ] no no no but he needs it he needs that I'll go like 40 no go like 75 Sean I'm I'm going to be honest bro don't even go 20% he's the nice [ __ ] bro don't do that bro you want him to go 100% no no to be honest but just like work with him and then just like maybe just just like a really good punching and then he'll give up 75% uh I'm nervous man I'm shaking for Derek yeah yeah that's good I understand that there a couple flinches if you Flinch hard enough the the wind coming off you will put him down let him walk you down and bait him boom sleeping what's your next upcoming fight a maraba jaaba and when is that uh not nothing yet I'm hoping for September maybe October maybe November maybe December I'm F ready to go baby what if it was next month I wouldn't be ready to go I like I like 10 to 12 weeks 10 to 12 he likes eight I mean I I normally do like 10 yeah just like but I've been super the first few weeks are [ __ ] pre-amps this Camp I'm channeling my Ryan Garcia would you ever do a Ryan Garcia regiment during Camp drink and smoke every night you do a little I I probably yeah I'm not actually doing that for the people out there he's locked in clocked in locked in locked in ready to go yeah May 20th we start but by the time the people see this it'll be uh June or something like that that is crazy you're fighting Mike that you fought Ben asran wrestler good good [ __ ] UFC was really good UF bit Tyron Woodley twice Anderson Silva knockout of the year with Nate Robinson can't forget about deji deji the the the goat do we say Gibb or is that like that's just crazy resume like literally [ __ ] C by way thank you Gib cuz we had a really good party after he knocked you the [ __ ] out who W we're skipping two professional boxers this always no no the recent ones this always happens I'm trying to just think cuz two cuz this is what everybody asked for this is what everybody asked for who who are the two professional boxers you fighted you got to name them Andre August and Ryan Borland go okay people don't people are like fight a pro boxer and then I do and then they're like that was boring as a man of combat he what were 10 and one nine and one nine and one what is your take on his [ __ ] all of his fights and who he's fighting in the competition dude I've been excited as [ __ ] since I started I remember you I remember the first time I watched was the Nate Robinson I watched that one at home and then uh I don't remember what it was after that but I remember watching Ben Asam in Atlanta I think that was the first time we actually met was right after the fight I think we hugged I was like y I picked you up you carried me back to the locker room that it was love at first sight that was crazy actually yeah actually I [ __ ] with him we became best friends like a couple days later you going to leave me hanging no no I would it's my eyebrow but uh yeah no I think he's obviously super skilled I think it's and I I it's inspired me even in the position I'm at UFC World Champ sexy you know what I mean like tall dark handsome TR inspired me just business the business uh side of things that you've done I've always thought putting on massive fight that's why I'm such a huge Conor fan cuz the pay-per-views he's done is so [ __ ] he's been fighting for four years and [ __ ] that he's been doing the massive fights the fights I get excited for there's a few UFC fights the high the big big fights that I get excited for but every time you fought even when uh Logan fought Floyd I was [ __ ] like excited like all fight week so i' I've been inspired from what you've done from a business side from the boxing side they even just start so not late but for a boxer but these boxers start when they're [ __ ] three four years old like Ryan and tank like they're young buck the Tik Tac I sent you of Devon Haney's debut fight yeah it's wild he was fighting a five foot Mexican in a in a bar was it Dante bro if I show you this [ __ ] oh no I did see that I did see that I did see that when you started even seeing that first video fighting Anderson Silva six fights in bro like do you know how insane that is he's one of the greatest correct me if I'm wrong UFC Strikers in history yeah 100% so does that make me one of the greatest UFC Strikers and one of the greatest wrestlers cuz wood but Ben ask was but Nate Diaz is ducking me in MMA oh am crazy I am weak that's a sick fight MMA I I wish it was that would happened right after the boxing same he's actually ducking it which is why it's crazy because he's not he's not in UFC no but we we upped it to 15 million damn that's crazy though that would be a I like Nate Diaz but that would be such a fun buildup he actually doesn't want to do it all Sean how do you genuinely Jake's not here it's me and you in a room actually how do you see that fight going for Jake what MMA him you're not here J for Nate in MMA keep it a bean God it's it's so hard to you're a big [ __ ] right now on what weight would it be5 185 I don't hate I don't I it's not a it's a winable fight for you I really do think that but Nate is so [ __ ] you would have to do what I did against aljo and morab do not let that [ __ ] grab you not that you can't wrestle cuz I know you can wrestle but once he starts grabbing you and doing Jiu-Jitsu if he gets on top his little he likes his little trips it would be hard for you to win I feel like if he if he started grappling just pure Jiu-Jitsu if it let's be real if it goes to the floor is he [ __ ] if he's on his back Nate's not like a super strong guy so if you learn how to like I mean I'm sure you know how to get up to a single legegg stuff like that but then you start getting your neck grabbed I don't know how much Jiu-Jitsu you know I mean Nate's a [ __ ] high Lev black belt um if you could keep it standing 100% there's winnable ways there if he if he went to the ground feel like he might be able to grab your neck no that that's exactly how I feel about it if I don't get guillotined yeah then I win the fight because even if he was on top take your back but even if he was on top of me I would just throw him off of me cuz he's also the weakest puncher I've ever fought like when he was hitting me I was I almost like started laughing I'm I'm not even saying this to talk [ __ ] out of everyone I've sparred in my whole entire life and everyone I fought his punches are even me we I don't think you ever landed a punch on me is that true well that's not true so I don't anyone no I'm literally not even talking [ __ ] which is why I think it's funny that he dropped Connor and [ __ ] cuz it's just like how Conor with like to the ground yeah like with a straight left hand yeah which is crazy like I I'm not just talking [ __ ] when I say that and I've told you I've literally told you this you told me this after the fight yeah I was like he is the weakest puncher I've ever fought in my life who's who's the weakest puncher you've ever you've ever come to face um there I mean there's been so many fights where I later didn't even get hit um uh does that like make you jaded at all when you get into a fight and you don't really get love that [ __ ] I prefer not to get hit at all but like if I was you and I wasn't get hit at all I'd probably work less no no no no I I know I don't get hit because I work that hard so if I didn't work hard I know I'd probably get hit I'm just a lazy [ __ ] so so here you are on top of the world we're launching [ __ ] W going to be a billion dollar business [ __ ] you I always forget uh UFC champ accomplishing all your goals what do you want next uh what are what is the threeyear fiveyear for Sean I I truly do want to get a boxing fight I'm not I'm not super set on that to where like I'm like going to be [ __ ] if it doesn't happen I do think it'll be interesting especially if I go out there knock morab out Ryan does his thing I think there's a [ __ ] sweet fight there if it doesn't happen not that worried about it want to go out there beat morab I'd like to you know if Max Max and Elia fight I would like to fight go move up to 45 fight the winner of that um you know maybe have three to five maybe have a few more kids definitely want another little baby I love kids my fite pump him out shout out to Danny who's your top pick in a boxing fight though if you if you could choose your Ryan now was like the I mean what he after dvon Beat Ryan I was like javante then Ryan goes out there does his thing really though I think Dante do you is that is that not a big [ __ ] leap Ryan like you said before he's been doing this his whole life one thing that's been proven is that the crossover it's it's not a good return Fury he did his thing okay the excep is the exception we've seen it with okay but then Anthony Joshua put his ass t was crazy super night night he was I'm I'm here for big fights like I wanted to get into the UFC and I wanted to make big fights watching Conor versus Floyd I'm like that [ __ ] happened really happened hey you versus Derek that could be as big as Connor in Floyd but no but I I think the craziest [ __ ] about Conor versus Floyd is that overall it was a W for everyone involved so there's certain fights where it just like doesn't matter what happens that's the world we live in yeah I mean UFC told me they said if the if the fight's big enough and it'll make the UFC money they'll do it what means more to you your your your record being pre or the amount of money you're making all right let me ask you something it's about to get real J's drunk Jasper's drunk as [ __ ] y record or money [ __ ] it depends the Gap like like the gap of money if it's like an extra 10 15 20 million but I lose a couple important fights probably not you just take like 150 million I'll be like like [ __ ] my record baby yeah it depends on the gap of money Jake Paul is not here right now just like a Mayweather Conor McGregor you taking that fight ver Jake yeah no he's my buddy I could I mean I don't I don't even no I no funny no there's you know what's funny is always in my Snapchat story once once a day pretty much someone says we knock out Jake Paul like there's every sing all the time for so long people just want to see me get [ __ ] is good though that's like the thing yeah but I'm sensitive it is funny though people [ __ ] love to hate confidence the craziest thing though actually about both of you like I met you very recently like I didn't realize you're as like normal as you are I don't know why I thought you violent like you guys are both like very goofy mellow and stupid and c and and awesome it's like the greatest thing ever like I couldn't believe when I met you you're like one of us like yeah I wouldn't think you're a [ __ ] yeah one of the coolest people in the world for sure yeah but not a lot of people uh can like I don't know we have like a weird it's hard toes Meat Heads I'm like this the this my dog I think it's a little bit of dark humor too it's like some [ __ ] up [ __ ] that we say off camera [ __ ] sometimes but I think it's like there's a certain yeah like that's how my whole group is back home it's like we all just we're all just kind of [ __ ] dumb I'm smart but like they're dumb well someone commented like yo Jake Paul's the dumbest genius in the world and I was just like I say that [ __ ] all the time you wed up the other day and I was like this is the most genius dumbass in the world no jokes Hey Brother chill buddy trying to get me cancelled no what how old are you 23 are you really yeah no you're not he's not is he what do you think think what did you think Oh no you're 267 27 what did you think he was I thought he was older I thought he was like 27 26 yeah a niggaer mature was that ladies you got a boo you got a girl you just be slanging she timeout right now I don't really talk about she don't time out it's a little tricky she not taking care of herself what do you guys think about Tom Brady R you watch it yeah they kept comp panning to you every 5 Seconds bro I swear there's a huge camer sitting there the whole time but it's cool to see Netflix going hard like that cuz they went hard they swing that meat around huha yeah let's pivot yeah just sorry about him I'm drunk man not yeah but but it was it was great it wasar they should have got rid of most of the football players going up there yeah there's a couple ones Ben afflac is that who that was on there that was wild that was so weird that was so weird it was cool to see how [ __ ] less sensitive people are becoming I feel like feel like it's recently like there's a big push back I think people got sick of it we went super super super PC for a long time people were like wait a second we like being able to say what we want to say I saw kill Tony say oh type of crazy [ __ ] on there that watch every [ __ ] Monday you were on kill Tony yeah how old are you actually buddy I'm a comedian Budd full time no yeah I was on that I was nervous as hell though I was like just being it's a live I do podcast once a week like me and Tim do our podcast every [ __ ] week but to be there in front of an audience live it's weird it's a different kind of well so you say Tim but let's let's talk about actually the fact that you get trained by by one of the greatest boxers of all time it's really that's something what's happened like that's crazy working with Canelo as your as your coach that's what I'm saying people don't going to be Ryan but like yeah that is true I never even thought about that for did you even know that this guy proba even know that that orange [ __ ] is nice wait will I get cancelled by the ginger community no you're black oh no my dad my dad's Ginger and I'm I'm like this [ __ ] is ginger bro he be shaving he be shaving his beard and I zoom in zoom in it's it's slightly orange so I'm a quarter ginger on South Park they made fun of Gingers and that [ __ ] made the news I [ __ ] with the ginger people but like y'all [ __ ] you like redhead girls oh yeah was Super Soaker but anyway yeah like y'all [ __ ] is orange and that's okay but back to you one of y'all that's not drunk I got a question cuz this guy clipped out a lot did Tim actually like you guys about him like saying to fight that was yeah that was real Tim always be talking [ __ ] to the like he's been doing that for so long so what happened he just talk I mean he just he Alo the knee's coming Alo you got to shoot Alo watch out for this like he's been saying that since I've been in the UFC like my debut vers terion where he was talking [ __ ] to terion too and uh he just does it every fight but this happened to just be crazy timing to like Tim you got Tim like alre you got to go and like literally he he like that's when he threw that left hand or whatever stepped into Southpaw and uh or stepped into Orthodox and got dropped it was it was funny the timing because he's like Al you got to go I don't I truly don't think that's why that's not why Alo went I bet you could I bet Alo didn't even hear that but Tim's always chirping and stuff but people on the internet are [ __ ] mad about that a lot of them actually like it I'll say majority of people are thinking that's the funniest [ __ ] ever there's a couple [ __ ] that are like you should be banned think it's a fight would you run the alra fight back or one and done never I like that why would I yeah am I supposed to top that you know what I'm saying I got love for Alo we had him on the show and he he seems like a good dude I actually don't mind Alo I does that ever happen where like you'll have a personal relationship with someone personal runin with them and it's all great but then now all of a sudden you have to fight each other I've never had I've not of running with someone that's been like uh more than like I've ran into aljo morab at the UFC I'm like hey what's up talk to him a little bit you know nothing no ill will um but I haven't had like a run with someone I actually lik them mhm and then at the fight them so you're not friends with any any other UFC fighters oh I have a there's there's a couple guys in my in my weight class that I train with at the lab that are like climbing the r uh ladders what happened with uh the 125 pounder I I don't even know his name and I'm not I'm just not like yeah what's his name I Alexander pania bro this story is actually kind of funny so 2016 I think it was it was like 3 and0 4 and0 and I was still fighting at like I fought at 125 not too long before that I fought at like 130 which is in a weight class was like so I wasn't like a 155 like I am now I was probably like 14 back then and uh Henry cejudo comes in I'm three or four and0 at the point at this point it comes in with this kid Alexander PTO just won The Ultimate Fighter I think he's got his UFC debut or it's his second UFC fight he's a couple weeks out from his fight I'm [ __ ] the night before me and Tim ripping bongs like hanging out being goofballs and [ __ ] so the next morning so we brought him in for sparring hry sudo brings in Alexander you're 4-0 he's King [ __ ] he he's just won The Ultimate Fighter and so they write the names on on the board who who you're sparring I'm like oh [ __ ] I got Alexander Pantoja versus me for one round one round he has three rounds so you write one one name then usually you you spar with one guy then they go out you spar with a fresh guy they go out spar with the fresh guy that's usually how it works so my name was just up there for one round that's it we Spar one round I didn't know anything about him cuz I I didn't really watch it like that 25 I don't really watch 25ers like that but somebody's like oh [ __ ] that's he a black belt he just won The Ultimate Fighter I was like oh [ __ ] I got to [ __ ] Focus up here first round boom Dro him with a liver kick and I wasn't going to post I record all my rounds I have so many sparring rounds like I wasn't going to post it was and for some reason I don't know why he would talk [ __ ] and bring it up cuz I literally I don't know you know know I don't know if you know how it works but you finish a guy the fight's over right no no did he um so I finished him the first round he hit him boom with the liver I posted the video yesterday and I've had it for a long time I didn't want to post it CU you don't post sparring like that but he just kept bringing it up so boom finished him first round um then uh after the first round round I go to walk out and Henry's over there crying box of Kleenex just like [ __ ] wiping his tears crying we want you for a second round so mad that this little like I was nobody just finished his dude he's in the UFC he's supposed to be the man finish him in the first round so Henry's crying saying he wants another round um so I piece him up again in the second round and I'm I'm dying at this point my lungs are burning I'm not in shape for fight I I'm nowhere near in Camp for a fight and I my lungs are hurting and uh Henry again crying blowing his nose and like I want you for a third and Benson comes in Benson Henderson absolute Legend comes in and was yelling cuz that's his it was the his gym the MMA lab we don't let people come in our gym and make us tired and blah blah blah and I'm [ __ ] just just huffing and puffing I just got done work in this dude for 10 minutes finished him in the first round did I say that liver kick um we'll put the footage I have the foot yeah it's right there insert the footage so third round come out boom piece him up again and he's so I don't know why he keeps bringing up this bringing this up in the media I think it's because people ask him but I don't know why he doesn't just say yeah yeah no no I don't want to talk about it he keeps saying like he's like oh I got in I found his range and [ __ ] I'm like bro you you stopped him in one round stopped him in round one and let him live and continue to fight for round two these delusional uh like wild people are weirdos but the reason I posted cuz he kept bringing it up exactly wait so is he the champ now at 125 yeah okay but why does he still want to talk [ __ ] to you if you got [ __ ] up that's what I'm saying I don't know either either you drop to 125 and get that no I can't drop to 125 that's too much now you're a thick [ __ ] I am a thick but yeah I SP I think it's important for up and cominging Spar uh fighters to record their rounds and watch their rounds not for that this reason you know but just to I've improve so much watching my sparring y I have thousands of rounds maybe not thousands hundreds of rounds from 10 years ago on my on my computer of uh it's like NFL team is watching footage the time [ __ ] 100% got to watch that [ __ ] that's I I have every single round recorded and and again I I don't post sparring either exactly you know put in a highlight video make a vlog boom we're sparring people but it's never like [ __ ] up your guy yeah exactly but Mike Perry honestly like what he's been doing is pretty Fu he went to Bare knuckle that [ __ ] just meant for him bare knuckle fighting it's crazy different going crazy he's doing good he's [ __ ] undefeated over there he's beating some really good guys stay over here [ __ ] [ __ ] only place that you should be getting tickets from is game time.co it's it's the only place I go it is the only place you can possibly go they have 110% price match guarantee that's what we use to get our tickets for the NBA Finals you can get $20 off your first order go to gametime.co JJ a $20 off your first order they're doing a deal specifically for y'all and you could see where your tickets are before you buy them seeing the seats they have all of the these great policies last 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platform there is Mike Paul versus Jake Tyson here's my official prediction tell us and even if even if it's against me like it's not it's not I do think you're going to beat Mike Tyson uh it's crazy that I even saying that out loud right now cuz you're fighting Mike Tyson it's [ __ ] crazy even just when we were walking down the the street today people all genders all ages knew you were fighting Mike Tyson it's such a massive fights live on Netflix which is [ __ ] crazy it's in a stadium which is [ __ ] crazy it is crazy I believe in you I see what you I see what you're doing I see you know that you believe in yourself Mike Tyson is uh hasn't fought in however long it's been so for him to just come up and get a fight be I I'm sure is going to be in as good a shape as he possibly could be in but it's just you know it's it's it's it's not his time right now I love Mike Tyson I never actually met him but I love Mike Tyson I do think Jake's gonna get the job done and I do think eight rounds eight two-minute rounds eight two-minute rounds I believe I believe you could put them away in the later rounds you know five six seven eight I do think you could put it put him down which is crazy to even [ __ ] think you rap yeah that's fire I'm just lazy and inconsistent that's not a w no that sh it is not you start using Brandon yell at him every day but cuz you can actually spit that's fire no but but people know him now from like podcasting they don't know he's a rapper and hurts his soul J sick name Lil jizz what J JZ that's good that's good you should switch your [ __ ] I switch my [ __ ] from come Master to kill Jas bro honestly though that's I think singing rapping spitting is one of the things that if I could switch talents be doing something like that that's good or twerking I ain't going to lie you shook that [ __ ] earlier I got a I got a thing on me you that [ __ ] wiggle a little bit let's let's pivot though cuz yep hit a pivot uh yeah do we have a speaker should we play Jasper's new song or something you got a new one I thought you were lazy some new [ __ ] go ahead play on your phone just put it in the speaker put it in the mic too this the [ __ ] I'm dropping when I'm Indie that sound decent I'm not rapping either I'm yapping that's not going to get you drunk yo I made this beat that's crazy I like the way you look I won't lie you got something I need you my with a fly girl like you doing with no guy a little sh don't really go outside I'm not crazy right place and right time you all smiles and pretty light brown [Music] [Music] like that better if I forget you but I just can't time saying do better and I'm sure you can find that guy that's worth all right cut it cut it cut it that's that's enough that's enough that's enough that's enough for real can't give the whole thing it's not out yet yeah hey good [ __ ] that's fire I'll be rapping though but that's some pop [ __ ] just cuz I can do it so why are you consistent cuz I'm lazy and jaded and and spoiled yeah it's unfortunate maam shout out to the homies for a lot of talented people out there that just are yeah don't smoke crack yo also there there is a parallel there don't do don't do that there's a parallel with the same thing he's talking about I think Fighters probably where it's like you could have all the talent in the world he's got that's why I get so [ __ ] mad at him it's cuz he has all the talent in the world really I get more pissed off than he gets and he could be a superstar but he just is lazy he doesn't put the work in he's not he's not strategic and it is hard when you got when you live in a crib in Puerto Rico right you got chefs and [ __ ] and you fly private with me yeah that's it that's it bro that's it you got to you got get paychecks and [ __ ] y'all got to evict me that's not a bad idea honestly I think we talked about it let's make I was I'm H we had a conversation but I just can't I can't because I love you so much I need you but then I'll probably be more like need you y yeah I guarante and then we you would still have to like fly in once a week to to do the pods and it would be resentment and then I I'll go out like and I'll try to start shooting at y'all oh my God I guarantee I would be in the position I'm in if I if I had money and like had already made it like financially had [ __ ] I wouldn't have made it that's why people think I'm crazy but CC the other side of it is like boom right so I'm from com California same hey shout out my [ __ ] yeah man I was homeless for the first half of my life mom's a drug addict dad's a gang member I've never had anything in my life right and my whole life has been music I dropped out in ninth grade I was like I'm going to make music my dad kicks me out he's like you can't live under this roof like be more like your brothers my brothers are [ __ ] star students one got a full ride scholarship loser all all type of [ __ ] nerd ass [ __ ] all those [ __ ] are fat and unemploy now one dropped out of school a full rise scholarship and is just sitting at home right so boom from having nothing to like me saying I'm going to risk everything that I have in my life to become a music artist and it works I get to a certain place and I'm like damn I did exactly I hit a ceiling right so it's like now I had to recalibrate he got a big record deal and then and then like use I crashed out and became a m addict for four four days a week for 30 like 90 days oh it's not bad but then I moved cuz my homeboy was like you need to move and I was like nah [ __ ] that I made a million I ain't going to move I'm going to maintain this lifestyle I'm a junkie but I'm rich yep I crashed out and was like yeah I need to move lost 60 lbs went to Puerto Rico locked in recalibrated and now I'm ready to be but that's that's here's the problem we run into now is that you've recalibrated and now it's still it's been 6 months the album's supposed to be 6 months ago and we're still waiting for the album that's the problem and that's what you got to work on never too late though let's start it let's get because you're vitamin deficient right yeah yeah cuz like a lot of people can't think straight when they're vitamin deficient and all that a week ago kind of elaborated on that so yeah this isn't therapy um I got shout out Suzie right right huh Susie but she's hot is she not you think my therapist you guys got the same one I could pee and vape on this podcast I got to go pee go pee I could pee yeah I mean I think we I think we end the episode because uh let's wrap it up you can get W available at Walmart anyway if you walk into Walmart whether you with your mom your daddy you by yourself you go in that [ __ ] men body care aisle you buy that and comment down below what you thought of the episode for um us being brain fried over and uh jper but Buzz also comment cuz this coming out when the product releases comment your favorite scent and sent $10,000 right no I'm send you 1,000 I ain't got 10,000 for you but I'll send you 1,000 I'll send someone 10,000 he'll send you 10,000 I'll send you a th000 and I'm going through the comments for sure anyway good luck Charlie and if you got a test soon good luck on that [ __ ] that's what we [Music] do what are those 8 O gloves I want you to know they were talking up there he ain't going easy so be ready all right legit be ready buddy I'm using these bags don't show Too Much don't show we're boxing we're boxing I don't I do that on accident sometimes just know that that might come up just keep your hands up I'm just saying I might throw that up I haven't knocked someone out in a while just cuz my last fight didn't go off it went off five rounds I've been like craving just putting someone's lights out lately it's weird versus your boy better Derek I I hope Sean isn't nice and just [ __ ] him up that's your that's your trainee [ __ ] D all righty folks welcome to your main event of the evening starting out first in the loser corner you have better day with a record of no wins no losses I beat ste's [ __ ] out no anything he is 5'7 120 lbs lost in the mile to better JoJo but he's still delusional in his fighting career and to my left in the winning Corner sponsored by W sugar sha Ali The Undefeated UFC champion of the world it's time to fight bring it to the center we already spoke about the rules in the locker room beforehand give me your glove give me your hand touch gloves I want a clean fair fight no no hits below the waist back to your Corners time you ready judge you ready and fight [Music] [Applause] I'm out of balance or something oh do Dodge that [ __ ] hold on hold on hold on hold [ __ ] come on come on just oh my God one back of the head no no no back of the head four ref didn't see it five six me in the eyes Walk This Way Walk This Way for me he's running Walk This Way for me my car run all right and we're in in that right that's called all right time time time one two that was a that was a slip four up six bro Rizo what the [ __ ] are you doing all right get up SLP all right come on time in come on got come on got you [ __ ] black I'm going to I need to work I need to see some work black UT D somebody said 10 seconds like 8 seconds ago all right great back to your corner back to your corner back to your corner stay in there you're doing good right now this feel good I feel good do you see that one I landed clean on his face I think we all terrible shut the [ __ ] up for once in your [ __ ] life shut the [ __ ] up Sean's doing half punches on him shut up I'll act like uh no don't act like bro I'm just I'm putting in work all right how this how you when you [ __ ] beat the old wash UFC fighters everybody comments you're fighting old was UFC fighters what do you think 10s I think they're right in in round two round two round two oh got him [ __ ] oh [Music] [ __ ] hey put that hey that that's a that's going to be a 10 count can't get me by the that's going to be a 10 count that's going to be a 10 count next time back in the just there going to be a 10 count next time get in there give me real quick get him with some you thank you perfect okay BL I'm going to need to see some more one two back to your corner white Corner neutral Corner 5 6 seven eight n look at me thank you bro come on you want to fight do you want to fight when I do you want to fight yes yeah wait wait time back in wake up time time time time time I promise okay it's to the floor the rules of transfer to MMA tap tap tap he's St he's T he's ta all right I block out all right you're good to go wait wait the fight was over get the [ __ ] out of the ring oh it's over it's over it's over it's over go you got it's over it's over it's over [Music]	recall calling steiny saying what the [ __ ] was that buddy I love steiny but I do remember watching that and thinking I wasn't proud of that I was not proud of that from steiny and I wish I wish he would come to the gym I wish he'd get in there I wish he'd train a little bit and I wish he would have a rematch but that's on him I've been trying to get the rematch but he's been ding me do you think Derek won he said I won I thought I thought he won I'd have to rewatch but I do think I come on baby the comments have [ __ ] dragged me for months after that [ __ ] 99% of the comments say I lost so please say it one more time Sean no I said it what I said it's like therapy or something no but to answer your question uh we all know uh uh as Fighters there's a side of promotion stop [ __ ] first of all Gus shut the [ __ ] up our our audio guys uh like can't stop laughing is that the facial his facial hair or is what he's saying bro that's bold of you to talk facial hair bro that's bold of you to I'm not Li you look dirty you look like Jeffrey done training right Jesus I train every day but anyway we know like there's two sides of of	2	6	8	recall calling steiny saying what the [ __ ] was that buddy I love steiny but I do remember watching that and thinking I wasn't proud of that I was not proud of that from steiny and I wish I wish he would come to the gym I wish he'd get in there I wish he'd train a little bit and I wish he would have a rematch but that's on him I've been trying to get the rematch but he's been ding me	Gus shut the [ __ ] up our our audio guys uh like can't stop laughing is that the facial his facial hair or is what he's saying bro that's bold of you to talk facial hair bro that's bold of you to I'm not Li you look dirty you look like Jeffrey done training right	2,4,-2	8,6,9	2	4	-2	8	6	9
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXPZ1KzdpsY	4,103	mXPZ1KzdpsY	2024-06-20 00:00:00	well well well ladies and gentlemen do we have a special episode for you today none other than sugar Shan om Ali the current UFC bantamweight champion a legend in his own right this episode was off the cusp we were a little turned up Jasper was really really drunk so we weren't really prepared for this at all the conversations definitely got wild and obviously as you guys have seen over maybe the past week or so we launched a new company called w am men's carine in Walmart this company is so near and dear to my heart and I partnered with Shawn to bring this Vision to life amongst other celebrities artists and athletes that we are announcing over the next couple of weeks here get your w at Walmart it is very very very very very good stuff and yes you heard the news I am fighting Mike Perry on July 20th it is going down I'm still fighting Mike Tyson November 15th that is happening but I'm staying active knocking out Mike Perry on July 20th and I'm excited for y'all to listen to this episode and he the vision of w how it all came together and how Shawn got involved and then everything to do with Shawn's career this podcast has been a long time coming but prepare yourself for some idiocracy per usual uh this is [ __ ] with Jake Paul we have a secret handshake check it out AC let me get that stop playing mean yeah we created that because we actually have so many things to get into here this has been a long time coming Jasper did bring up something and the reason W was created was because the other products in the category had harmful dyes parabens sulfates hormone disruptors and so we wanted to create the better for you vitamin infused product and and Sean's a co-owner just signed today yesterday for the show but we we'll get into all of that we we've been you know bringing sea on for like we've been talking for like a month and a half yes sir yes sir um it is currently May we've been doing a lot of shoots this podcast will probably come out at post W launch you can get I'm so drunk I'm sorry y'all you can get it in uh Walmart every Walmart you in Paca Walmart get it in you in Pensacola it's in Walmart in Kentucky Walmart Walmart so basically uh we we brought in the greatest people in the world to help build W and Sean is one of those people but dialing everything back we will get into the company the body washes how this all came about but uh we've been wanting to do this podcast and thanks for joining us BR hey guys hey thanks for joining us right did you uh yeah I did you sh for an hour bro did you did you do do we know do we set the stage of the day and the fact that Jasper's slash right now okay cool y drunk is a [ __ ] y like double drunk yep yep yep you drunk yeah all that so um but just winding everything back uh I think we've been friends for a long time in fact you were the first guest on this show oh [ __ ] crazy Zoom crazy that's right that's right that's right the first ever episode you zoomed in and that's crazy we're thankful we're thankful for our friendship and it's pretty cool that now we're here again today uh getting less views than before and that's fire that's it congratulations less views we're not we're not it was it was a joke it was a joke if you watching this please like and comment cuz we falling off right now but man by the time this comes out you're going to be getting ready for me RAB how do you say his name I don't remember morab is iTab or or I don't know me that's got to be it me but you got to say it with the emphasis look meab mirab meab meab there you go there you go so yeah I should be getting ready hopefully I ain't got nothing scheduled hopefully uh you know Uncle Dana will call me say hey buddy you want to fight in in here and there and there and then I'm d b boom and that that's how that works what's up with everybody on your body though everybody talking [ __ ] even people youat I wanted to bring up yeah and he's like saying like he's trying to post about you even yesterday it is weird but when you concuss someone you know what I just say they don't think as well as they used to so I think he's still concussed and he's a little confused because he's talking [ __ ] still he not in his right mind because I can just throw up another post go because it's a throwback Thursday it's a throwback Friday do you think do you think people don't respect you enough cuz I I see that as your friend an unbiased like they just see social media and podcasts and the the hair and stuff like that and then they just sh week but I [ __ ] with you I appr that um I don't think it is well you can't you know I think it's fine I think you're jealous I ain't going to lie I got some inches under here let's smell that hair you can smell my [ __ ] must who I do think I feel a little bit disrespected as the champ but I think that last fight against Che kind of you know shut a little bit of people up canny go five rounds Cheeto beat me before the Alo fight um shut a lot of people up canny grapple didn't have to Grapple cuz he couldn't take me down yeah Alo couldn't take you down I think that was the biggest thing where they were like yo that's his weakness like yeah wrestle him down and then he just proved everyone wrong that's what's so interesting about this morab fight is he's supposedly well he is he's [ __ ] good at wrestling he's really really good at wrestling he's boring as [ __ ] and no one will there won't be one comment saying yeah right he's actually kind of fun not one person I'm com won I'm com you can I ask you something would you put yourself in your own top five Strikers in the UFC oh I'm yeah yo easily who's your Mount Rushmore strikker well I I mean I would unbiasedly I would put him as number one because adna is in like top three but he also like got beat by put that [ __ ] down boy he did uh bro I'm up there I'm up there Max is really good Max super his striking that's a good top five there that's four me Max Elia adaga uh I'm sure I'm missing some your with a one would it be that's that's a minus one Mount rmore is four yeah but I only got four but if you throw the five in it's a plus one isn't there only four yeah but but you ready to throw the five up I'm four all right that's my more but yeah once again uh this is a [ __ ] ass podcast so we apologize hey but something something you just touched on you talked about Fighters being fun and interesting how much and you're you're a superstar how much of you being a superstar how much of any fighter being a superstar comes down to them being fun and interesting as you are and how much of it comes down to their actual fighting good question uh well who's a super who who obviously Connor comes to mind I think he's he's a character he's fun he's interesting who else comes to mind is like a superstar I would say Izzy gives that off I think he's an interesting guy other than that there's not like a ton of fun like Ryan Garcia is doing a really good job right now of being [ __ ] interesting being a character uh I think that's fentel I think it's drugs as well I wouldn't deny that but he's still making people interested in Ryan versus Devon Haney was an interesting fight not because Devon Haney that dude's boring as [ __ ] you think he did them roids no I don't think Ryan did I think Devon needs to take that L he being a [ __ ] about I think the craziest [ __ ] you said to me and like I don't even know if we want to put this in there or bring it up but we we can always remove it but uh because of your your situation with the ostarine and you said to me like and it I like fully felt your energy you're like I swear on my daughter's life I never did that and you got popped for it yeah same thing happened uh to Ryan right now he popped for aost the low super low level a some [ __ ] like a trillionth of a gr the same thing happened to me uh so when that came out with Ryan like I truly truly didn't believe he took anything because it was the same [ __ ] and it happens to a lot of [ __ ] ostarine happens to how does that happen it's called the tainted supplement so if you're taking anything that has protein in it that's not third party tested uh could not just protein any kind of supplement that's not third party tested it's either NSF or there's a bunch of different third party tests but if you're not if you're taking something that doesn't have that there's chances there could be something in it but austram people pop for that all the time my case was not that big of a deal cuz I wasn't as huge of a star as I am now but it still was like a big deal because of my name the reason it's going so crazy right now is because Ryan G is a superstar so people are freaking out but it happens to a lot of athletes I just before we move past it I just on that Superstar topic how is that is that Superstar factor that that someone like you has someone like Ryan has someone like Connor has is it something you're born with or is it is it a practice is it something you can learn and do you sit back and like think like oh how can I go viral today how can I I think it's both I think you have to want to be a superstar there's some guys in the UFC like I want to make more money I want this I want that but they don't really want to be a superstar you you got to want it you got to you got to have some kind of vision a long time before well and and also like who you are as a person you have to have that like Fire Within still though like before you got into want famous I want to be in the NFL I want to be NBA I wanted to be a [ __ ] athlete when I was young was instilled I was just for whatever reason I wanted to make it when I was young I'm from H in Montana like small ass can I ask you something what's your opinion on like the take b nickel takes like where he's like super friendly and humble and like I think he's a sweet ass [ __ ] they love him but like bro that [ __ ] pisses me off I think that [ __ ] is cool too n like you're a hum like [ __ ] talk your [ __ ] you're what 670 like bro talk your [ __ ] like it it kind of bores me no I get yeah I mean that's that's some people's opinion is like he's too nice too humble too that but he's being himself um but he's also super young in the sport I think he and he's still pretty what is he 28 you're in a sport of War if I was playing like [ __ ] Cricket I would be like yeah like but that's that's the thing is for for for a character like him what it seems like is that's what he's in is the sport of war and that's it he's not in the sport of entertainment he's a nice ass sweetheart get there is some people that that understand both sides of things but I also have respect for and I see when someone's that's strictly in the sport of if I play chess with you I'm going to be like good game and I'm going to shake your hand I talk [ __ ] be F ass to a PO it I'm going to be like [ __ ] you you need to get better at whatever you're doing dial dialing it back a little bit um to the aost stream thing I think it's like what do you think about Conor tweeting still at like 3:00 a.m. like coked out he he he he sent shots at me and Ryan talking [ __ ] but it's it's crazy coming from Connor who literally got out of the usada pool to do steroid like legit steroids so it's kind of wild and I was the biggest Connor fan for a long time in the last couple weeks ever since he sent that wasn't even a couple weeks ago probably a week ago I've been trying to hate him I've been trying to be like [ __ ] you Connor but I can't I love Connor I it's like I am excited for his fight coming up I'm excited I want you know I'm all about it what's the fight is it Chandler Chandler in June it's going to be big they just been trying to do it for a long time so I didn't know if it still still I think officially I think it's I think I think the craziest part about it is what like eight weeks before a fight that he's still like coked and drunk out of his mind who you got though who that's a good it is crazy that he still like he tweeted that deleted like 20 minutes later he was definitely [ __ ] up on well that's what I was going to say we can't just Grace past that do you is that that's a that's a bold thing to say do you you know he's on coke is that a is that are you [ __ ] gills I don't know anything but I know for certain that he's brother like look at the time of the tweets and look at what he's saying like also and he's like known for this simar tweets yeah yeah I don't know just manic brother I think he is I do think Ryan is I think he when he said he was playing into it a little bit I I think he's kind of using that I think he's [ __ ] crazy what what what would happen if you and Ryan boxed that's I mean there's only one way to find out he has a lot better chances of beating me in a boxing match than he does in a real fight keep up I do I I [ __ ] I truly believe in myself that's how I got to the [ __ ] position I'm in right now I can box I can throw hands um I don't think it'd be easy by any means I do think it's possible I beat him I'm not saying my my odds are great but I do believe I could beat Ryan Bo if there was anybody you could box for your first boxing match debut who are you Bo give an easy fight give me Deon Haney you give [Laughter] me honest answer uh I mean if we're I I would say Floyd if I Pi if I could sit here and pick who I box first boxing fight I pick Floyd because it would be the biggest most crazy most legendary fight maybe not most legendary some people for me okay but outside of that on a skill based level oh I I could hang with some good [ __ ] pro boxers I'm undefeated in boxing you think you think if you and uh ilot boxed that' be ilot is very very [ __ ] skilled boxing that's an interesting question so who what what professional boxer would you equate your PA Mike Tyson I know of Devon Haney now because Ryan Garcia beat him uh dvon Davis he's really short I know him um maybe smacking [ __ ] up though he does he that little guy he can't he can't ride roll coasters though that is true so there's a there's a tradeoff like Cruz fight he was riding a roller coaster no like I'm talking about like at the fair oh no you know like there there's a trade-off in life you know where things get weird it's like it's like yo he's really good but you can't even just hit Dante fan brother can't even ride the top not a Dante fan that's not what I'm wait what did what did I say to say I'm not a you didn't say I mean I don't think he knows that it's a short joke I don't think he picked up on you want me tell him I was joking shut the [ __ ] up I get I say that was a joke I'm what are you trying to say I'm but are you trying to insinuate that I'm short no honestly you're probably what five you're 5'9 you're like 5' seven and a half stop doing stop doing it stop doing that cuz [ __ ] is going to see this and be like he's 5'6 actually if you watching this and you think I'm 5'6 and you want to try me in person please any [ __ ] who see me out I'm punching your [ __ ] out I'm like 5'9 on a good day when when I'm lying to women I'm 5'10 for sure who's gonna ID me I'm wearing forces I'm a [ __ ] liar all right so now for the truth jakee he's like what like he's 5 No but don't do that bro all right all right we won't we'll cut that out like yeah n don't cut it out n don't see me and see these but you know dvon is 5'5 legit that's cool bro I know but is that not short just be honest is that five five short for a grown man for a grown man is that short you can be a fan I'm not I'm a fan of javante and he's five that's a little little bro all right the joke went over his head anyways so the short joke [ __ ] is trying to play me like I'm short no no no we're we're not we're not you're [ __ ] tall all right let's pivot yeah so um SI yeah sh shout out to the shout out to the pivot but but yeah like Jasper's a little riled up things are on edge he's a little he's a little turned up it's been a long day a long two days we've been shooting uh because we have a new [ __ ] company did we say we talk about that yet I we said in the beginning raise your arms up [ __ ] goed [ __ ] goed shout out to w a fun few days it's been a fun few days days you're going to see the content rolling out um but you speaking of but Ruby Rose did a good job oh my God I wanted to bite that M listen anyway if you're near wmart if you're watching this right now I don't give a [ __ ] what you're doing you could be taking care of your kid you could be taking care of your elderly parents [ __ ] them go to Walmart June 1st Nationwide I don't care if you in Pensacola you in Massachusetts all in places that sound [ __ ] stupid there's a Walmart there and you go there it's a better for you product vitamin ifuse number [ __ ] one yeah no basically I I think dialing back like the business story of it because you're also like a very smart businessman intellectual doing everything you do in and outside of the Ring which a lot of people don't have which contributes to you being uh the biggest in my opinion the biggest UFC star um but yeah we we basically I guess this is the podcast where we tell people where W came from but um we started building this company like a year and a half ago and really saw how all these other companies like as we move into better for you products and less harmful products we saw how the leaders in the space didn't have the best formulas didn't have the best manufacturing had all of these harmful substances in it and we're also brands from when I was like 9 years old I don't want to list names but they're still like having all the Shelf space in stores and I was just like this is wild like this is boring this is lame the the the we need something new we need something that's better uh males have vitamin uh deficiencies like crazy especially with magnesium Jasper just can't get enough of it uh especially with magnesium um and biotin is in the body wash uh vitamin E one two of the best vitamins for your skin and hair um but as The Story Goes long story short we we come up with this brand that represents so many things um but I think winning in everyday life whether you're the valedictorian whether you are the high school jock whether you're philanthropist now you have a product that you can embody and wear every single day that's increasing your vitamin intake that is less harmful to you that's where the idea came from and just being the winning formula in category uh went to Walmart pitched them the whole idea they [ __ ] loved it helped us build the brand even and come up with the scent profiles and all the things that are the the most popular um and this has been something I've wanted to do for so long we had to bring in the best people to be a part of it the winners in their category and that's number one Numero Uno sha Ali here um and he instantly saw the vision and already in the past couple of days it's been like super fun filming all the content behind yeah I was pumped when you [ __ ] called me appreciate you thinking of me and uh excited to help grow this business [ __ ] it's needed it's needed we're going to take over the whole bathroom you know tooed if you [ __ ] with the dogs and cows and chickens dog in you I know what I got that dog in me and I use it so be dog free baby am I missing anything with that no I think that was great the one the one thing I would touch on and you did in a way but it's it is body wash it is body spray it is deodorant but it also is there's an ethos that stands behind this brand which is the ethos that you stand for and it's the ethos that you stand for and the ethos that you stand for and the one that I stand for if I say ethos again I'm GNA start stumbling over my words but it's it's it's like you said it it doesn't the winners in life aren't just you you're on a big stage in life you're you're you're crushing it in every aspect financially you're a star you're leading your sport that's awesome on every [ __ ] level it's it's an encouragement to to young men all around the world to [ __ ] get up off their ass and get sh it don't matter if you score high on a test you whatever the [ __ ] it is that you do well maybe not so it matters what the [ __ ] you do but it also doesn't matter what the [ __ ] you do anybody is a winner as long as you put in the work and you have the will to win and I love it I I would say that's wrong I would say that not anybody is a winner and I think that's something that the brand also stands for like you really got to win you got to as you have the will to win no I'm just saying I think that's an important point cuz we live in a world today where a lot of people think everybody can be a winner that's not true if you Los you might be a loser and if you're a loser the good news is there's a hidden l in the logo actually we'll trace it for you with our graphic design team there's a hidden l in the logo because and I I I wanted to make sure that was was a thing because the biggest loss of my life turned out to be the biggest W in my life and I always had the saying like two L's make a w and when I lost to Tommy Fury it was embarrassing all these things but I realized I wasn't focused I wasn't as locked in as I could be the team around me from a boxing standpoint wasn't good I was having personal issues with relationships and all of these things that I had to shed and grow from and I grew into this new and completely different person but I wouldn't have done that if I didn't lose on the biggest stage possible and I think that was part of the ethos ethos ethos ethos of the brand was to encourage people that in their lowest moments to turn those into into their biggest W's eventually when Jake just said that the biggest loss of his life ended up being the biggest W of his life you said same yeah yeah same what what was that story for supposedly lost for lost to Cheeto back in 2020 August it it was I mean it sucked at the time but I it didn't suck too bad because I was like okay I didn't lose because I you know and it was different I wasn't I mean I was focused everything went good training camp everything was good but I was like that sucks I'm goingon to get that back someday when the time is right and then my last fight two two months ago in Miami headline I'm the champ defending my belt against that same guy how rewarding was that three and a half years later August three and a half years later boom beat his ass as a fan of yours it made it so sweet because of all the doubters that constantly like put you down and didn't believe in you and said he was going to destroy you and then you he literally like you embarrass him that was a performance of a life you embarrassed the [ __ ] out of him and I think that's literally a prime example of turning l l into into a w and I really that's what that's where the hidden l in the brand in the logo is um and representing that every single day when you see these products in your bathroom and when we say we have a saying it's not just a product it's a lifestyle absolutely trademarked Incorporated All Rights Reserved 2024 brother uh but but yeah man it's it's an honor to have you a part of this and uh we we really made what we think are the best products on the market from the body wash being exfoliating vitamin infused to the body spray what we found out is a lot of these fragrances like you get like these high-end designer brands that have like $500 colognes turns out it only cost them a dollar to make that and they're literally making like $499 on top of that so we had a fine fragrance house is what these places are called and we got the super expensive scents and gave it to people to what they're worth like we're not trying to these products are super super affordable and I think it's so funny because that's the world we live in where like you just label something and get like a European girl to go this is one of the lower priced men's care products on the market yeah if I'm not mistaken and it's it's the $500 fragrance in the affordable bottle because we want everyone we've been using a body wash in the past two days since we got the samples after the shoot and I personally want to say I got the in there you could bleep it out whatever you want to do W's winning n b genuinely that's that's the saying is the it's winning formula cuz it really is like it really is if if we're going to call our company [ __ ] W it has to be the best we the winners winning product indeed indeed winning customers all that type of [ __ ] indeed better Derek today he's just got a punch I'm not Li I talked to him before he left he wants to punch you up bro he's got a punchable face I like him though it's weird it's like God I like that guy but I want [ __ ] KO pick him up and like it's okay boom one more to the liing me earlier and I'm just letting you know don't shoot the messenger on God he said he wants to get in the ring with you I can call him really he oh yeah he he you want to call him yeah where is he at is wait uh no call no call he's coming up oh um he's talking smack he said he actually wants a spar I swear to God he said he wants to get percentage should I go you guys I literally out let that's crazy timeing saying talk [ __ ] to my face if you're going to talk [ __ ] that's crazy timing what were you saying they were telling me you want to get in the ring and Spar bit or they didn't say Spar they said fight yeah I'm down to do either but uh yeah no I'm just sick of the [ __ ] [ __ ] you've been saying on your podcast uh you called me you made fun of my weight and you called me gay I did not no I well okay okay you said that he wouldn't ever say that what you got to say what your chest that's what I just [ __ ] said bro I he was like oh if I if stand on it you talking to him you talking to him you ain't talking to me my assistant Sono would would piece you he's never boxed a day he never I'm here to fight your video I'm here to fight you what did I what was the first thing I said to you when when I saw you what was the first thing I said to you that we could fight no I said you look thick wait but when we were talking earlier weren't you saying he's a [ __ ] and you wanted to get a ring with him and all type [ __ ] what I'm saying right now say it then I just said the [ __ ] ring so we can after this we have a ring 2 feet away and he's a [ __ ] and whatever else you was saying to me yeah he's [ __ ] what about my hair say something about my hair I I already said that at the W shoot that you look like you haven't showered in [ __ ] a week okay all right d hey buddy hey hey what's your long-term play not no but see you guys you guys are making me seem crazy you're out of your mind he Derek Dereck go warm up hit the hit the heavy back H the warm up is almost listen legendary as send location dble PIV go warm up hey hey double pivot sit sit I'm not [ __ ] no I I'll sit and talk but I'm not [ __ ] no sit on the floor walk you want to take my seat hey how much how much of what's going on ch ch how much of what's going on is is a character versus like actual delusion how much is a character yeah decent uh I would say there are times where I know what I have to do for my boxing career to like like we all why is he laughing cuz you said career I beat your [ __ ] boy your [ __ ] [ __ ] bro you know what I I recall you did beat I recall calling steiny saying what the [ __ ] was that buddy I love steiny but I do remember watching that and thinking I wasn't proud of that I was not proud of that from steiny and I wish I wish he would come to the gym I wish he'd get in there I wish he'd train a little bit and I wish he would have a rematch but that's on him I've been trying to get the rematch but he's been ding me do you think Derek won he said I won I thought I thought he won I'd have to rewatch but I do think I come on baby the comments have [ __ ] dragged me for months after that [ __ ] 99% of the comments say I lost so please say it one more time Sean no I said it what I said it's like therapy or something no but to answer your question uh we all know uh uh as Fighters there's a side of promotion stop [ __ ] first of all Gus shut the [ __ ] up our our audio guys uh like can't stop laughing is that the facial his facial hair or is what he's saying bro that's bold of you to talk facial hair bro that's bold of you to I'm not Li you look dirty you look like Jeffrey done training right Jesus I train every day but anyway we know like there's two sides of of promotion as well as the actual athletic competition that is Combat Sports so there are times where I might play up a little bit like hey promoting but let him go let him go all right if you if all if you think I'm all promoting that I'll see you in the [ __ ] ring and I'll knock both you either of you out well um well Jake's a [ __ ] fat [ __ ] right now he weighs like 240 so I got I goty I gotta pick my words wisely like he's Jake's 240 I I know I know but like I'm not going to sit here and pick a fight against somebody that's 240 when I'm se's my weight class when I stopped you in one round like just like but when I was getting started out of come this is where I'm at since then I told him he could have somebody tag team I'm down I'm down to fight anybody in this [ __ ] room not one person in this room I'm the best part about this is like uh right after this we I think you're you're down to do like one round or three minutes right I mean I'd prefer 12 but we okay yeah 12 I mean that my biggest advantage in the ring ring is my cardio I do 12 12 okay so no I have a genuine question so five round I'm not I'm not one have I ever said I'm a UFC fighter no I'm just say we can box I'm just saying that's I'm used to five you want to do three we could do that aren't you trying to be a boxer with your [ __ ] Ryan Garcia call he would knock knock your [ __ ] ass out so quickly it wouldn't be close I'm one and0 pro boxing what are you actually I saw that video I saw video I'm also want to know thank you officially hey they count that's real commiss but uh I didn't mean I didn't mean to take I didn't mean to take over the pot I just wanted to a couple you definitely didn't yeah okay I try I'm trying to help you no we love you go warm up yeah yeah go warm up the bags don't warm up too much though don't get tired how much do you wa right now without Timberlands and jean shorts on high 120 low 13 no without lying though okay that [ __ ] is you think you got you got him one round I think I could beat him I think I can beat him I I think I could handicap myself to three just put on one glove I could do that what do you think actually happens now when you go downstairs and he gets in that ring like what's his plan that's what I don't get about him but that's why it's that's do me a favor that's why he's Cloud it up because love [ __ ] up [ __ ] he's going he's going to try to Yap he's going to try to talk please just go 100% yeah no actually actually please go 100% if he signs a consent form we'll have him no we've already got like multiple consent forms for better media with like death wavers [ __ ] no no no but he needs it he needs that I'll go like 40 no go like 75 Sean I'm I'm going to be honest bro don't even go 20% he's the nice [ __ ] bro don't do that bro you want him to go 100% no no to be honest but just like work with him and then just like maybe just just like a really good punching and then he'll give up 75% uh I'm nervous man I'm shaking for Derek yeah yeah that's good I understand that there a couple flinches if you Flinch hard enough the the wind coming off you will put him down let him walk you down and bait him boom sleeping what's your next upcoming fight a maraba jaaba and when is that uh not nothing yet I'm hoping for September maybe October maybe November maybe December I'm F ready to go baby what if it was next month I wouldn't be ready to go I like I like 10 to 12 weeks 10 to 12 he likes eight I mean I I normally do like 10 yeah just like but I've been super the first few weeks are [ __ ] pre-amps this Camp I'm channeling my Ryan Garcia would you ever do a Ryan Garcia regiment during Camp drink and smoke every night you do a little I I probably yeah I'm not actually doing that for the people out there he's locked in clocked in locked in locked in ready to go yeah May 20th we start but by the time the people see this it'll be uh June or something like that that is crazy you're fighting Mike that you fought Ben asran wrestler good good [ __ ] UFC was really good UF bit Tyron Woodley twice Anderson Silva knockout of the year with Nate Robinson can't forget about deji deji the the the goat do we say Gibb or is that like that's just crazy resume like literally [ __ ] C by way thank you Gib cuz we had a really good party after he knocked you the [ __ ] out who W we're skipping two professional boxers this always no no the recent ones this always happens I'm trying to just think cuz two cuz this is what everybody asked for this is what everybody asked for who who are the two professional boxers you fighted you got to name them Andre August and Ryan Borland go okay people don't people are like fight a pro boxer and then I do and then they're like that was boring as a man of combat he what were 10 and one nine and one nine and one what is your take on his [ __ ] all of his fights and who he's fighting in the competition dude I've been excited as [ __ ] since I started I remember you I remember the first time I watched was the Nate Robinson I watched that one at home and then uh I don't remember what it was after that but I remember watching Ben Asam in Atlanta I think that was the first time we actually met was right after the fight I think we hugged I was like y I picked you up you carried me back to the locker room that it was love at first sight that was crazy actually yeah actually I [ __ ] with him we became best friends like a couple days later you going to leave me hanging no no I would it's my eyebrow but uh yeah no I think he's obviously super skilled I think it's and I I it's inspired me even in the position I'm at UFC World Champ sexy you know what I mean like tall dark handsome TR inspired me just business the business uh side of things that you've done I've always thought putting on massive fight that's why I'm such a huge Conor fan cuz the pay-per-views he's done is so [ __ ] he's been fighting for four years and [ __ ] that he's been doing the massive fights the fights I get excited for there's a few UFC fights the high the big big fights that I get excited for but every time you fought even when uh Logan fought Floyd I was [ __ ] like excited like all fight week so i' I've been inspired from what you've done from a business side from the boxing side they even just start so not late but for a boxer but these boxers start when they're [ __ ] three four years old like Ryan and tank like they're young buck the Tik Tac I sent you of Devon Haney's debut fight yeah it's wild he was fighting a five foot Mexican in a in a bar was it Dante bro if I show you this [ __ ] oh no I did see that I did see that I did see that when you started even seeing that first video fighting Anderson Silva six fights in bro like do you know how insane that is he's one of the greatest correct me if I'm wrong UFC Strikers in history yeah 100% so does that make me one of the greatest UFC Strikers and one of the greatest wrestlers cuz wood but Ben ask was but Nate Diaz is ducking me in MMA oh am crazy I am weak that's a sick fight MMA I I wish it was that would happened right after the boxing same he's actually ducking it which is why it's crazy because he's not he's not in UFC no but we we upped it to 15 million damn that's crazy though that would be a I like Nate Diaz but that would be such a fun buildup he actually doesn't want to do it all Sean how do you genuinely Jake's not here it's me and you in a room actually how do you see that fight going for Jake what MMA him you're not here J for Nate in MMA keep it a bean God it's it's so hard to you're a big [ __ ] right now on what weight would it be5 185 I don't hate I don't I it's not a it's a winable fight for you I really do think that but Nate is so [ __ ] you would have to do what I did against aljo and morab do not let that [ __ ] grab you not that you can't wrestle cuz I know you can wrestle but once he starts grabbing you and doing Jiu-Jitsu if he gets on top his little he likes his little trips it would be hard for you to win I feel like if he if he started grappling just pure Jiu-Jitsu if it let's be real if it goes to the floor is he [ __ ] if he's on his back Nate's not like a super strong guy so if you learn how to like I mean I'm sure you know how to get up to a single legegg stuff like that but then you start getting your neck grabbed I don't know how much Jiu-Jitsu you know I mean Nate's a [ __ ] high Lev black belt um if you could keep it standing 100% there's winnable ways there if he if he went to the ground feel like he might be able to grab your neck no that that's exactly how I feel about it if I don't get guillotined yeah then I win the fight because even if he was on top take your back but even if he was on top of me I would just throw him off of me cuz he's also the weakest puncher I've ever fought like when he was hitting me I was I almost like started laughing I'm I'm not even saying this to talk [ __ ] out of everyone I've sparred in my whole entire life and everyone I fought his punches are even me we I don't think you ever landed a punch on me is that true well that's not true so I don't anyone no I'm literally not even talking [ __ ] which is why I think it's funny that he dropped Connor and [ __ ] cuz it's just like how Conor with like to the ground yeah like with a straight left hand yeah which is crazy like I I'm not just talking [ __ ] when I say that and I've told you I've literally told you this you told me this after the fight yeah I was like he is the weakest puncher I've ever fought in my life who's who's the weakest puncher you've ever you've ever come to face um there I mean there's been so many fights where I later didn't even get hit um uh does that like make you jaded at all when you get into a fight and you don't really get love that [ __ ] I prefer not to get hit at all but like if I was you and I wasn't get hit at all I'd probably work less no no no no I I know I don't get hit because I work that hard so if I didn't work hard I know I'd probably get hit I'm just a lazy [ __ ] so so here you are on top of the world we're launching [ __ ] W going to be a billion dollar business [ __ ] you I always forget uh UFC champ accomplishing all your goals what do you want next uh what are what is the threeyear fiveyear for Sean I I truly do want to get a boxing fight I'm not I'm not super set on that to where like I'm like going to be [ __ ] if it doesn't happen I do think it'll be interesting especially if I go out there knock morab out Ryan does his thing I think there's a [ __ ] sweet fight there if it doesn't happen not that worried about it want to go out there beat morab I'd like to you know if Max Max and Elia fight I would like to fight go move up to 45 fight the winner of that um you know maybe have three to five maybe have a few more kids definitely want another little baby I love kids my fite pump him out shout out to Danny who's your top pick in a boxing fight though if you if you could choose your Ryan now was like the I mean what he after dvon Beat Ryan I was like javante then Ryan goes out there does his thing really though I think Dante do you is that is that not a big [ __ ] leap Ryan like you said before he's been doing this his whole life one thing that's been proven is that the crossover it's it's not a good return Fury he did his thing okay the excep is the exception we've seen it with okay but then Anthony Joshua put his ass t was crazy super night night he was I'm I'm here for big fights like I wanted to get into the UFC and I wanted to make big fights watching Conor versus Floyd I'm like that [ __ ] happened really happened hey you versus Derek that could be as big as Connor in Floyd but no but I I think the craziest [ __ ] about Conor versus Floyd is that overall it was a W for everyone involved so there's certain fights where it just like doesn't matter what happens that's the world we live in yeah I mean UFC told me they said if the if the fight's big enough and it'll make the UFC money they'll do it what means more to you your your your record being pre or the amount of money you're making all right let me ask you something it's about to get real J's drunk Jasper's drunk as [ __ ] y record or money [ __ ] it depends the Gap like like the gap of money if it's like an extra 10 15 20 million but I lose a couple important fights probably not you just take like 150 million I'll be like like [ __ ] my record baby yeah it depends on the gap of money Jake Paul is not here right now just like a Mayweather Conor McGregor you taking that fight ver Jake yeah no he's my buddy I could I mean I don't I don't even no I no funny no there's you know what's funny is always in my Snapchat story once once a day pretty much someone says we knock out Jake Paul like there's every sing all the time for so long people just want to see me get [ __ ] is good though that's like the thing yeah but I'm sensitive it is funny though people [ __ ] love to hate confidence the craziest thing though actually about both of you like I met you very recently like I didn't realize you're as like normal as you are I don't know why I thought you violent like you guys are both like very goofy mellow and stupid and c and and awesome it's like the greatest thing ever like I couldn't believe when I met you you're like one of us like yeah I wouldn't think you're a [ __ ] yeah one of the coolest people in the world for sure yeah but not a lot of people uh can like I don't know we have like a weird it's hard toes Meat Heads I'm like this the this my dog I think it's a little bit of dark humor too it's like some [ __ ] up [ __ ] that we say off camera [ __ ] sometimes but I think it's like there's a certain yeah like that's how my whole group is back home it's like we all just we're all just kind of [ __ ] dumb I'm smart but like they're dumb well someone commented like yo Jake Paul's the dumbest genius in the world and I was just like I say that [ __ ] all the time you wed up the other day and I was like this is the most genius dumbass in the world no jokes Hey Brother chill buddy trying to get me cancelled no what how old are you 23 are you really yeah no you're not he's not is he what do you think think what did you think Oh no you're 267 27 what did you think he was I thought he was older I thought he was like 27 26 yeah a niggaer mature was that ladies you got a boo you got a girl you just be slanging she timeout right now I don't really talk about she don't time out it's a little tricky she not taking care of herself what do you guys think about Tom Brady R you watch it yeah they kept comp panning to you every 5 Seconds bro I swear there's a huge camer sitting there the whole time but it's cool to see Netflix going hard like that cuz they went hard they swing that meat around huha yeah let's pivot yeah just sorry about him I'm drunk man not yeah but but it was it was great it wasar they should have got rid of most of the football players going up there yeah there's a couple ones Ben afflac is that who that was on there that was wild that was so weird that was so weird it was cool to see how [ __ ] less sensitive people are becoming I feel like feel like it's recently like there's a big push back I think people got sick of it we went super super super PC for a long time people were like wait a second we like being able to say what we want to say I saw kill Tony say oh type of crazy [ __ ] on there that watch every [ __ ] Monday you were on kill Tony yeah how old are you actually buddy I'm a comedian Budd full time no yeah I was on that I was nervous as hell though I was like just being it's a live I do podcast once a week like me and Tim do our podcast every [ __ ] week but to be there in front of an audience live it's weird it's a different kind of well so you say Tim but let's let's talk about actually the fact that you get trained by by one of the greatest boxers of all time it's really that's something what's happened like that's crazy working with Canelo as your as your coach that's what I'm saying people don't going to be Ryan but like yeah that is true I never even thought about that for did you even know that this guy proba even know that that orange [ __ ] is nice wait will I get cancelled by the ginger community no you're black oh no my dad my dad's Ginger and I'm I'm like this [ __ ] is ginger bro he be shaving he be shaving his beard and I zoom in zoom in it's it's slightly orange so I'm a quarter ginger on South Park they made fun of Gingers and that [ __ ] made the news I [ __ ] with the ginger people but like y'all [ __ ] you like redhead girls oh yeah was Super Soaker but anyway yeah like y'all [ __ ] is orange and that's okay but back to you one of y'all that's not drunk I got a question cuz this guy clipped out a lot did Tim actually like you guys about him like saying to fight that was yeah that was real Tim always be talking [ __ ] to the like he's been doing that for so long so what happened he just talk I mean he just he Alo the knee's coming Alo you got to shoot Alo watch out for this like he's been saying that since I've been in the UFC like my debut vers terion where he was talking [ __ ] to terion too and uh he just does it every fight but this happened to just be crazy timing to like Tim you got Tim like alre you got to go and like literally he he like that's when he threw that left hand or whatever stepped into Southpaw and uh or stepped into Orthodox and got dropped it was it was funny the timing because he's like Al you got to go I don't I truly don't think that's why that's not why Alo went I bet you could I bet Alo didn't even hear that but Tim's always chirping and stuff but people on the internet are [ __ ] mad about that a lot of them actually like it I'll say majority of people are thinking that's the funniest [ __ ] ever there's a couple [ __ ] that are like you should be banned think it's a fight would you run the alra fight back or one and done never I like that why would I yeah am I supposed to top that you know what I'm saying I got love for Alo we had him on the show and he he seems like a good dude I actually don't mind Alo I does that ever happen where like you'll have a personal relationship with someone personal runin with them and it's all great but then now all of a sudden you have to fight each other I've never had I've not of running with someone that's been like uh more than like I've ran into aljo morab at the UFC I'm like hey what's up talk to him a little bit you know nothing no ill will um but I haven't had like a run with someone I actually lik them mhm and then at the fight them so you're not friends with any any other UFC fighters oh I have a there's there's a couple guys in my in my weight class that I train with at the lab that are like climbing the r uh ladders what happened with uh the 125 pounder I I don't even know his name and I'm not I'm just not like yeah what's his name I Alexander pania bro this story is actually kind of funny so 2016 I think it was it was like 3 and0 4 and0 and I was still fighting at like I fought at 125 not too long before that I fought at like 130 which is in a weight class was like so I wasn't like a 155 like I am now I was probably like 14 back then and uh Henry cejudo comes in I'm three or four and0 at the point at this point it comes in with this kid Alexander PTO just won The Ultimate Fighter I think he's got his UFC debut or it's his second UFC fight he's a couple weeks out from his fight I'm [ __ ] the night before me and Tim ripping bongs like hanging out being goofballs and [ __ ] so the next morning so we brought him in for sparring hry sudo brings in Alexander you're 4-0 he's King [ __ ] he he's just won The Ultimate Fighter and so they write the names on on the board who who you're sparring I'm like oh [ __ ] I got Alexander Pantoja versus me for one round one round he has three rounds so you write one one name then usually you you spar with one guy then they go out you spar with a fresh guy they go out spar with the fresh guy that's usually how it works so my name was just up there for one round that's it we Spar one round I didn't know anything about him cuz I I didn't really watch it like that 25 I don't really watch 25ers like that but somebody's like oh [ __ ] that's he a black belt he just won The Ultimate Fighter I was like oh [ __ ] I got to [ __ ] Focus up here first round boom Dro him with a liver kick and I wasn't going to post I record all my rounds I have so many sparring rounds like I wasn't going to post it was and for some reason I don't know why he would talk [ __ ] and bring it up cuz I literally I don't know you know know I don't know if you know how it works but you finish a guy the fight's over right no no did he um so I finished him the first round he hit him boom with the liver I posted the video yesterday and I've had it for a long time I didn't want to post it CU you don't post sparring like that but he just kept bringing it up so boom finished him first round um then uh after the first round round I go to walk out and Henry's over there crying box of Kleenex just like [ __ ] wiping his tears crying we want you for a second round so mad that this little like I was nobody just finished his dude he's in the UFC he's supposed to be the man finish him in the first round so Henry's crying saying he wants another round um so I piece him up again in the second round and I'm I'm dying at this point my lungs are burning I'm not in shape for fight I I'm nowhere near in Camp for a fight and I my lungs are hurting and uh Henry again crying blowing his nose and like I want you for a third and Benson comes in Benson Henderson absolute Legend comes in and was yelling cuz that's his it was the his gym the MMA lab we don't let people come in our gym and make us tired and blah blah blah and I'm [ __ ] just just huffing and puffing I just got done work in this dude for 10 minutes finished him in the first round did I say that liver kick um we'll put the footage I have the foot yeah it's right there insert the footage so third round come out boom piece him up again and he's so I don't know why he keeps bringing up this bringing this up in the media I think it's because people ask him but I don't know why he doesn't just say yeah yeah no no I don't want to talk about it he keeps saying like he's like oh I got in I found his range and [ __ ] I'm like bro you you stopped him in one round stopped him in round one and let him live and continue to fight for round two these delusional uh like wild people are weirdos but the reason I posted cuz he kept bringing it up exactly wait so is he the champ now at 125 yeah okay but why does he still want to talk [ __ ] to you if you got [ __ ] up that's what I'm saying I don't know either either you drop to 125 and get that no I can't drop to 125 that's too much now you're a thick [ __ ] I am a thick but yeah I SP I think it's important for up and cominging Spar uh fighters to record their rounds and watch their rounds not for that this reason you know but just to I've improve so much watching my sparring y I have thousands of rounds maybe not thousands hundreds of rounds from 10 years ago on my on my computer of uh it's like NFL team is watching footage the time [ __ ] 100% got to watch that [ __ ] that's I I have every single round recorded and and again I I don't post sparring either exactly you know put in a highlight video make a vlog boom we're sparring people but it's never like [ __ ] up your guy yeah exactly but Mike Perry honestly like what he's been doing is pretty Fu he went to Bare knuckle that [ __ ] just meant for him bare knuckle fighting it's crazy different going crazy he's doing good he's [ __ ] undefeated over there he's beating some really good guys stay over here [ __ ] [ __ ] only place that you should be getting tickets from is game time.co it's it's the only place I go it is the only place you can possibly go they have 110% price match guarantee that's what we use to get our tickets for the NBA Finals you can get $20 off your first order go to gametime.co JJ a $20 off your first order they're doing a deal specifically for y'all and you could see where your tickets are before you buy them seeing the seats they have all of the these great policies last 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platform there is Mike Paul versus Jake Tyson here's my official prediction tell us and even if even if it's against me like it's not it's not I do think you're going to beat Mike Tyson uh it's crazy that I even saying that out loud right now cuz you're fighting Mike Tyson it's [ __ ] crazy even just when we were walking down the the street today people all genders all ages knew you were fighting Mike Tyson it's such a massive fights live on Netflix which is [ __ ] crazy it's in a stadium which is [ __ ] crazy it is crazy I believe in you I see what you I see what you're doing I see you know that you believe in yourself Mike Tyson is uh hasn't fought in however long it's been so for him to just come up and get a fight be I I'm sure is going to be in as good a shape as he possibly could be in but it's just you know it's it's it's it's not his time right now I love Mike Tyson I never actually met him but I love Mike Tyson I do think Jake's gonna get the job done and I do think eight rounds eight two-minute rounds eight two-minute rounds I believe I believe you could put them away in the later rounds you know five six seven eight I do think you could put it put him down which is crazy to even [ __ ] think you rap yeah that's fire I'm just lazy and inconsistent that's not a w no that sh it is not you start using Brandon yell at him every day but cuz you can actually spit that's fire no but but people know him now from like podcasting they don't know he's a rapper and hurts his soul J sick name Lil jizz what J JZ that's good that's good you should switch your [ __ ] I switch my [ __ ] from come Master to kill Jas bro honestly though that's I think singing rapping spitting is one of the things that if I could switch talents be doing something like that that's good or twerking I ain't going to lie you shook that [ __ ] earlier I got a I got a thing on me you that [ __ ] wiggle a little bit let's let's pivot though cuz yep hit a pivot uh yeah do we have a speaker should we play Jasper's new song or something you got a new one I thought you were lazy some new [ __ ] go ahead play on your phone just put it in the speaker put it in the mic too this the [ __ ] I'm dropping when I'm Indie that sound decent I'm not rapping either I'm yapping that's not going to get you drunk yo I made this beat that's crazy I like the way you look I won't lie you got something I need you my with a fly girl like you doing with no guy a little sh don't really go outside I'm not crazy right place and right time you all smiles and pretty light brown [Music] [Music] like that better if I forget you but I just can't time saying do better and I'm sure you can find that guy that's worth all right cut it cut it cut it that's that's enough that's enough that's enough that's enough for real can't give the whole thing it's not out yet yeah hey good [ __ ] that's fire I'll be rapping though but that's some pop [ __ ] just cuz I can do it so why are you consistent cuz I'm lazy and jaded and and spoiled yeah it's unfortunate maam shout out to the homies for a lot of talented people out there that just are yeah don't smoke crack yo also there there is a parallel there don't do don't do that there's a parallel with the same thing he's talking about I think Fighters probably where it's like you could have all the talent in the world he's got that's why I get so [ __ ] mad at him it's cuz he has all the talent in the world really I get more pissed off than he gets and he could be a superstar but he just is lazy he doesn't put the work in he's not he's not strategic and it is hard when you got when you live in a crib in Puerto Rico right you got chefs and [ __ ] and you fly private with me yeah that's it that's it bro that's it you got to you got get paychecks and [ __ ] y'all got to evict me that's not a bad idea honestly I think we talked about it let's make I was I'm H we had a conversation but I just can't I can't because I love you so much I need you but then I'll probably be more like need you y yeah I guarante and then we you would still have to like fly in once a week to to do the pods and it would be resentment and then I I'll go out like and I'll try to start shooting at y'all oh my God I guarantee I would be in the position I'm in if I if I had money and like had already made it like financially had [ __ ] I wouldn't have made it that's why people think I'm crazy but CC the other side of it is like boom right so I'm from com California same hey shout out my [ __ ] yeah man I was homeless for the first half of my life mom's a drug addict dad's a gang member I've never had anything in my life right and my whole life has been music I dropped out in ninth grade I was like I'm going to make music my dad kicks me out he's like you can't live under this roof like be more like your brothers my brothers are [ __ ] star students one got a full ride scholarship loser all all type of [ __ ] nerd ass [ __ ] all those [ __ ] are fat and unemploy now one dropped out of school a full rise scholarship and is just sitting at home right so boom from having nothing to like me saying I'm going to risk everything that I have in my life to become a music artist and it works I get to a certain place and I'm like damn I did exactly I hit a ceiling right so it's like now I had to recalibrate he got a big record deal and then and then like use I crashed out and became a m addict for four four days a week for 30 like 90 days oh it's not bad but then I moved cuz my homeboy was like you need to move and I was like nah [ __ ] that I made a million I ain't going to move I'm going to maintain this lifestyle I'm a junkie but I'm rich yep I crashed out and was like yeah I need to move lost 60 lbs went to Puerto Rico locked in recalibrated and now I'm ready to be but that's that's here's the problem we run into now is that you've recalibrated and now it's still it's been 6 months the album's supposed to be 6 months ago and we're still waiting for the album that's the problem and that's what you got to work on never too late though let's start it let's get because you're vitamin deficient right yeah yeah cuz like a lot of people can't think straight when they're vitamin deficient and all that a week ago kind of elaborated on that so yeah this isn't therapy um I got shout out Suzie right right huh Susie but she's hot is she not you think my therapist you guys got the same one I could pee and vape on this podcast I got to go pee go pee I could pee yeah I mean I think we I think we end the episode because uh let's wrap it up you can get W available at Walmart anyway if you walk into Walmart whether you with your mom your daddy you by yourself you go in that [ __ ] men body care aisle you buy that and comment down below what you thought of the episode for um us being brain fried over and uh jper but Buzz also comment cuz this coming out when the product releases comment your favorite scent and sent $10,000 right no I'm send you 1,000 I ain't got 10,000 for you but I'll send you 1,000 I'll send someone 10,000 he'll send you 10,000 I'll send you a th000 and I'm going through the comments for sure anyway good luck Charlie and if you got a test soon good luck on that [ __ ] that's what we [Music] do what are those 8 O gloves I want you to know they were talking up there he ain't going easy so be ready all right legit be ready buddy I'm using these bags don't show Too Much don't show we're boxing we're boxing I don't I do that on accident sometimes just know that that might come up just keep your hands up I'm just saying I might throw that up I haven't knocked someone out in a while just cuz my last fight didn't go off it went off five rounds I've been like craving just putting someone's lights out lately it's weird versus your boy better Derek I I hope Sean isn't nice and just [ __ ] him up that's your that's your trainee [ __ ] D all righty folks welcome to your main event of the evening starting out first in the loser corner you have better day with a record of no wins no losses I beat ste's [ __ ] out no anything he is 5'7 120 lbs lost in the mile to better JoJo but he's still delusional in his fighting career and to my left in the winning Corner sponsored by W sugar sha Ali The Undefeated UFC champion of the world it's time to fight bring it to the center we already spoke about the rules in the locker room beforehand give me your glove give me your hand touch gloves I want a clean fair fight no no hits below the waist back to your Corners time you ready judge you ready and fight [Music] [Applause] I'm out of balance or something oh do Dodge that [ __ ] hold on hold on hold on hold [ __ ] come on come on just oh my God one back of the head no no no back of the head four ref didn't see it five six me in the eyes Walk This Way Walk This Way for me he's running Walk This Way for me my car run all right and we're in in that right that's called all right time time time one two that was a that was a slip four up six bro Rizo what the [ __ ] are you doing all right get up SLP all right come on time in come on got come on got you [ __ ] black I'm going to I need to work I need to see some work black UT D somebody said 10 seconds like 8 seconds ago all right great back to your corner back to your corner back to your corner stay in there you're doing good right now this feel good I feel good do you see that one I landed clean on his face I think we all terrible shut the [ __ ] up for once in your [ __ ] life shut the [ __ ] up Sean's doing half punches on him shut up I'll act like uh no don't act like bro I'm just I'm putting in work all right how this how you when you [ __ ] beat the old wash UFC fighters everybody comments you're fighting old was UFC fighters what do you think 10s I think they're right in in round two round two round two oh got him [ __ ] oh [Music] [ __ ] hey put that hey that that's a that's going to be a 10 count can't get me by the that's going to be a 10 count that's going to be a 10 count next time back in the just there going to be a 10 count next time get in there give me real quick get him with some you thank you perfect okay BL I'm going to need to see some more one two back to your corner white Corner neutral Corner 5 6 seven eight n look at me thank you bro come on you want to fight do you want to fight when I do you want to fight yes yeah wait wait time back in wake up time time time time time I promise okay it's to the floor the rules of transfer to MMA tap tap tap he's St he's T he's ta all right I block out all right you're good to go wait wait the fight was over get the [ __ ] out of the ring oh it's over it's over it's over it's over go you got it's over it's over it's over [Music]	promotion as well as the actual athletic competition that is Combat Sports so there are times where I might play up a little bit like hey promoting but let him go let him go all right if you if all if you think I'm all promoting that I'll see you in the [ __ ] ring and I'll knock both you either of you out well um well Jake's a [ __ ] fat [ __ ] right now he weighs like 240 so I got I goty I gotta pick my words wisely like he's Jake's 240 I I know I know but like I'm not going to sit here and pick a fight against somebody that's 240 when I'm se's my weight class when I stopped you in one round like just like but when I was getting started out of come this is where I'm at since then I told him he could have somebody tag team I'm down I'm down to fight anybody in this [ __ ] room not one person in this room I'm the best part about this is like uh right after this we I think you're you're down to do like one round or three minutes right I mean I'd prefer 12 but we okay yeah 12 I mean that my biggest advantage in the ring ring is my cardio I do 12 12 okay so no I have a genuine question so five round I'm not I'm not one have	8	9	7	promotion as well as the actual athletic competition that is Combat Sports so there are times where I might play up a little bit like hey promoting but let him go let him go all right if you if all if you think I'm all promoting that I'll see you in the ring and I'll knock both you either of you out	no I have a genuine question so five round I'm not I'm not one have	7,8,9	3,-1,2	7	8	9	3	-1	2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXPZ1KzdpsY	4,103	mXPZ1KzdpsY	2024-06-20 00:00:00	well well well ladies and gentlemen do we have a special episode for you today none other than sugar Shan om Ali the current UFC bantamweight champion a legend in his own right this episode was off the cusp we were a little turned up Jasper was really really drunk so we weren't really prepared for this at all the conversations definitely got wild and obviously as you guys have seen over maybe the past week or so we launched a new company called w am men's carine in Walmart this company is so near and dear to my heart and I partnered with Shawn to bring this Vision to life amongst other celebrities artists and athletes that we are announcing over the next couple of weeks here get your w at Walmart it is very very very very very good stuff and yes you heard the news I am fighting Mike Perry on July 20th it is going down I'm still fighting Mike Tyson November 15th that is happening but I'm staying active knocking out Mike Perry on July 20th and I'm excited for y'all to listen to this episode and he the vision of w how it all came together and how Shawn got involved and then everything to do with Shawn's career this podcast has been a long time coming but prepare yourself for some idiocracy per usual uh this is [ __ ] with Jake Paul we have a secret handshake check it out AC let me get that stop playing mean yeah we created that because we actually have so many things to get into here this has been a long time coming Jasper did bring up something and the reason W was created was because the other products in the category had harmful dyes parabens sulfates hormone disruptors and so we wanted to create the better for you vitamin infused product and and Sean's a co-owner just signed today yesterday for the show but we we'll get into all of that we we've been you know bringing sea on for like we've been talking for like a month and a half yes sir yes sir um it is currently May we've been doing a lot of shoots this podcast will probably come out at post W launch you can get I'm so drunk I'm sorry y'all you can get it in uh Walmart every Walmart you in Paca Walmart get it in you in Pensacola it's in Walmart in Kentucky Walmart Walmart so basically uh we we brought in the greatest people in the world to help build W and Sean is one of those people but dialing everything back we will get into the company the body washes how this all came about but uh we've been wanting to do this podcast and thanks for joining us BR hey guys hey thanks for joining us right did you uh yeah I did you sh for an hour bro did you did you do do we know do we set the stage of the day and the fact that Jasper's slash right now okay cool y drunk is a [ __ ] y like double drunk yep yep yep you drunk yeah all that so um but just winding everything back uh I think we've been friends for a long time in fact you were the first guest on this show oh [ __ ] crazy Zoom crazy that's right that's right that's right the first ever episode you zoomed in and that's crazy we're thankful we're thankful for our friendship and it's pretty cool that now we're here again today uh getting less views than before and that's fire that's it congratulations less views we're not we're not it was it was a joke it was a joke if you watching this please like and comment cuz we falling off right now but man by the time this comes out you're going to be getting ready for me RAB how do you say his name I don't remember morab is iTab or or I don't know me that's got to be it me but you got to say it with the emphasis look meab mirab meab meab there you go there you go so yeah I should be getting ready hopefully I ain't got nothing scheduled hopefully uh you know Uncle Dana will call me say hey buddy you want to fight in in here and there and there and then I'm d b boom and that that's how that works what's up with everybody on your body though everybody talking [ __ ] even people youat I wanted to bring up yeah and he's like saying like he's trying to post about you even yesterday it is weird but when you concuss someone you know what I just say they don't think as well as they used to so I think he's still concussed and he's a little confused because he's talking [ __ ] still he not in his right mind because I can just throw up another post go because it's a throwback Thursday it's a throwback Friday do you think do you think people don't respect you enough cuz I I see that as your friend an unbiased like they just see social media and podcasts and the the hair and stuff like that and then they just sh week but I [ __ ] with you I appr that um I don't think it is well you can't you know I think it's fine I think you're jealous I ain't going to lie I got some inches under here let's smell that hair you can smell my [ __ ] must who I do think I feel a little bit disrespected as the champ but I think that last fight against Che kind of you know shut a little bit of people up canny go five rounds Cheeto beat me before the Alo fight um shut a lot of people up canny grapple didn't have to Grapple cuz he couldn't take me down yeah Alo couldn't take you down I think that was the biggest thing where they were like yo that's his weakness like yeah wrestle him down and then he just proved everyone wrong that's what's so interesting about this morab fight is he's supposedly well he is he's [ __ ] good at wrestling he's really really good at wrestling he's boring as [ __ ] and no one will there won't be one comment saying yeah right he's actually kind of fun not one person I'm com won I'm com you can I ask you something would you put yourself in your own top five Strikers in the UFC oh I'm yeah yo easily who's your Mount Rushmore strikker well I I mean I would unbiasedly I would put him as number one because adna is in like top three but he also like got beat by put that [ __ ] down boy he did uh bro I'm up there I'm up there Max is really good Max super his striking that's a good top five there that's four me Max Elia adaga uh I'm sure I'm missing some your with a one would it be that's that's a minus one Mount rmore is four yeah but I only got four but if you throw the five in it's a plus one isn't there only four yeah but but you ready to throw the five up I'm four all right that's my more but yeah once again uh this is a [ __ ] ass podcast so we apologize hey but something something you just touched on you talked about Fighters being fun and interesting how much and you're you're a superstar how much of you being a superstar how much of any fighter being a superstar comes down to them being fun and interesting as you are and how much of it comes down to their actual fighting good question uh well who's a super who who obviously Connor comes to mind I think he's he's a character he's fun he's interesting who else comes to mind is like a superstar I would say Izzy gives that off I think he's an interesting guy other than that there's not like a ton of fun like Ryan Garcia is doing a really good job right now of being [ __ ] interesting being a character uh I think that's fentel I think it's drugs as well I wouldn't deny that but he's still making people interested in Ryan versus Devon Haney was an interesting fight not because Devon Haney that dude's boring as [ __ ] you think he did them roids no I don't think Ryan did I think Devon needs to take that L he being a [ __ ] about I think the craziest [ __ ] you said to me and like I don't even know if we want to put this in there or bring it up but we we can always remove it but uh because of your your situation with the ostarine and you said to me like and it I like fully felt your energy you're like I swear on my daughter's life I never did that and you got popped for it yeah same thing happened uh to Ryan right now he popped for aost the low super low level a some [ __ ] like a trillionth of a gr the same thing happened to me uh so when that came out with Ryan like I truly truly didn't believe he took anything because it was the same [ __ ] and it happens to a lot of [ __ ] ostarine happens to how does that happen it's called the tainted supplement so if you're taking anything that has protein in it that's not third party tested uh could not just protein any kind of supplement that's not third party tested it's either NSF or there's a bunch of different third party tests but if you're not if you're taking something that doesn't have that there's chances there could be something in it but austram people pop for that all the time my case was not that big of a deal cuz I wasn't as huge of a star as I am now but it still was like a big deal because of my name the reason it's going so crazy right now is because Ryan G is a superstar so people are freaking out but it happens to a lot of athletes I just before we move past it I just on that Superstar topic how is that is that Superstar factor that that someone like you has someone like Ryan has someone like Connor has is it something you're born with or is it is it a practice is it something you can learn and do you sit back and like think like oh how can I go viral today how can I I think it's both I think you have to want to be a superstar there's some guys in the UFC like I want to make more money I want this I want that but they don't really want to be a superstar you you got to want it you got to you got to have some kind of vision a long time before well and and also like who you are as a person you have to have that like Fire Within still though like before you got into want famous I want to be in the NFL I want to be NBA I wanted to be a [ __ ] athlete when I was young was instilled I was just for whatever reason I wanted to make it when I was young I'm from H in Montana like small ass can I ask you something what's your opinion on like the take b nickel takes like where he's like super friendly and humble and like I think he's a sweet ass [ __ ] they love him but like bro that [ __ ] pisses me off I think that [ __ ] is cool too n like you're a hum like [ __ ] talk your [ __ ] you're what 670 like bro talk your [ __ ] like it it kind of bores me no I get yeah I mean that's that's some people's opinion is like he's too nice too humble too that but he's being himself um but he's also super young in the sport I think he and he's still pretty what is he 28 you're in a sport of War if I was playing like [ __ ] Cricket I would be like yeah like but that's that's the thing is for for for a character like him what it seems like is that's what he's in is the sport of war and that's it he's not in the sport of entertainment he's a nice ass sweetheart get there is some people that that understand both sides of things but I also have respect for and I see when someone's that's strictly in the sport of if I play chess with you I'm going to be like good game and I'm going to shake your hand I talk [ __ ] be F ass to a PO it I'm going to be like [ __ ] you you need to get better at whatever you're doing dial dialing it back a little bit um to the aost stream thing I think it's like what do you think about Conor tweeting still at like 3:00 a.m. like coked out he he he he sent shots at me and Ryan talking [ __ ] but it's it's crazy coming from Connor who literally got out of the usada pool to do steroid like legit steroids so it's kind of wild and I was the biggest Connor fan for a long time in the last couple weeks ever since he sent that wasn't even a couple weeks ago probably a week ago I've been trying to hate him I've been trying to be like [ __ ] you Connor but I can't I love Connor I it's like I am excited for his fight coming up I'm excited I want you know I'm all about it what's the fight is it Chandler Chandler in June it's going to be big they just been trying to do it for a long time so I didn't know if it still still I think officially I think it's I think I think the craziest part about it is what like eight weeks before a fight that he's still like coked and drunk out of his mind who you got though who that's a good it is crazy that he still like he tweeted that deleted like 20 minutes later he was definitely [ __ ] up on well that's what I was going to say we can't just Grace past that do you is that that's a that's a bold thing to say do you you know he's on coke is that a is that are you [ __ ] gills I don't know anything but I know for certain that he's brother like look at the time of the tweets and look at what he's saying like also and he's like known for this simar tweets yeah yeah I don't know just manic brother I think he is I do think Ryan is I think he when he said he was playing into it a little bit I I think he's kind of using that I think he's [ __ ] crazy what what what would happen if you and Ryan boxed that's I mean there's only one way to find out he has a lot better chances of beating me in a boxing match than he does in a real fight keep up I do I I [ __ ] I truly believe in myself that's how I got to the [ __ ] position I'm in right now I can box I can throw hands um I don't think it'd be easy by any means I do think it's possible I beat him I'm not saying my my odds are great but I do believe I could beat Ryan Bo if there was anybody you could box for your first boxing match debut who are you Bo give an easy fight give me Deon Haney you give [Laughter] me honest answer uh I mean if we're I I would say Floyd if I Pi if I could sit here and pick who I box first boxing fight I pick Floyd because it would be the biggest most crazy most legendary fight maybe not most legendary some people for me okay but outside of that on a skill based level oh I I could hang with some good [ __ ] pro boxers I'm undefeated in boxing you think you think if you and uh ilot boxed that' be ilot is very very [ __ ] skilled boxing that's an interesting question so who what what professional boxer would you equate your PA Mike Tyson I know of Devon Haney now because Ryan Garcia beat him uh dvon Davis he's really short I know him um maybe smacking [ __ ] up though he does he that little guy he can't he can't ride roll coasters though that is true so there's a there's a tradeoff like Cruz fight he was riding a roller coaster no like I'm talking about like at the fair oh no you know like there there's a trade-off in life you know where things get weird it's like it's like yo he's really good but you can't even just hit Dante fan brother can't even ride the top not a Dante fan that's not what I'm wait what did what did I say to say I'm not a you didn't say I mean I don't think he knows that it's a short joke I don't think he picked up on you want me tell him I was joking shut the [ __ ] up I get I say that was a joke I'm what are you trying to say I'm but are you trying to insinuate that I'm short no honestly you're probably what five you're 5'9 you're like 5' seven and a half stop doing stop doing it stop doing that cuz [ __ ] is going to see this and be like he's 5'6 actually if you watching this and you think I'm 5'6 and you want to try me in person please any [ __ ] who see me out I'm punching your [ __ ] out I'm like 5'9 on a good day when when I'm lying to women I'm 5'10 for sure who's gonna ID me I'm wearing forces I'm a [ __ ] liar all right so now for the truth jakee he's like what like he's 5 No but don't do that bro all right all right we won't we'll cut that out like yeah n don't cut it out n don't see me and see these but you know dvon is 5'5 legit that's cool bro I know but is that not short just be honest is that five five short for a grown man for a grown man is that short you can be a fan I'm not I'm a fan of javante and he's five that's a little little bro all right the joke went over his head anyways so the short joke [ __ ] is trying to play me like I'm short no no no we're we're not we're not you're [ __ ] tall all right let's pivot yeah so um SI yeah sh shout out to the shout out to the pivot but but yeah like Jasper's a little riled up things are on edge he's a little he's a little turned up it's been a long day a long two days we've been shooting uh because we have a new [ __ ] company did we say we talk about that yet I we said in the beginning raise your arms up [ __ ] goed [ __ ] goed shout out to w a fun few days it's been a fun few days days you're going to see the content rolling out um but you speaking of but Ruby Rose did a good job oh my God I wanted to bite that M listen anyway if you're near wmart if you're watching this right now I don't give a [ __ ] what you're doing you could be taking care of your kid you could be taking care of your elderly parents [ __ ] them go to Walmart June 1st Nationwide I don't care if you in Pensacola you in Massachusetts all in places that sound [ __ ] stupid there's a Walmart there and you go there it's a better for you product vitamin ifuse number [ __ ] one yeah no basically I I think dialing back like the business story of it because you're also like a very smart businessman intellectual doing everything you do in and outside of the Ring which a lot of people don't have which contributes to you being uh the biggest in my opinion the biggest UFC star um but yeah we we basically I guess this is the podcast where we tell people where W came from but um we started building this company like a year and a half ago and really saw how all these other companies like as we move into better for you products and less harmful products we saw how the leaders in the space didn't have the best formulas didn't have the best manufacturing had all of these harmful substances in it and we're also brands from when I was like 9 years old I don't want to list names but they're still like having all the Shelf space in stores and I was just like this is wild like this is boring this is lame the the the we need something new we need something that's better uh males have vitamin uh deficiencies like crazy especially with magnesium Jasper just can't get enough of it uh especially with magnesium um and biotin is in the body wash uh vitamin E one two of the best vitamins for your skin and hair um but as The Story Goes long story short we we come up with this brand that represents so many things um but I think winning in everyday life whether you're the valedictorian whether you are the high school jock whether you're philanthropist now you have a product that you can embody and wear every single day that's increasing your vitamin intake that is less harmful to you that's where the idea came from and just being the winning formula in category uh went to Walmart pitched them the whole idea they [ __ ] loved it helped us build the brand even and come up with the scent profiles and all the things that are the the most popular um and this has been something I've wanted to do for so long we had to bring in the best people to be a part of it the winners in their category and that's number one Numero Uno sha Ali here um and he instantly saw the vision and already in the past couple of days it's been like super fun filming all the content behind yeah I was pumped when you [ __ ] called me appreciate you thinking of me and uh excited to help grow this business [ __ ] it's needed it's needed we're going to take over the whole bathroom you know tooed if you [ __ ] with the dogs and cows and chickens dog in you I know what I got that dog in me and I use it so be dog free baby am I missing anything with that no I think that was great the one the one thing I would touch on and you did in a way but it's it is body wash it is body spray it is deodorant but it also is there's an ethos that stands behind this brand which is the ethos that you stand for and it's the ethos that you stand for and the ethos that you stand for and the one that I stand for if I say ethos again I'm GNA start stumbling over my words but it's it's it's like you said it it doesn't the winners in life aren't just you you're on a big stage in life you're you're you're crushing it in every aspect financially you're a star you're leading your sport that's awesome on every [ __ ] level it's it's an encouragement to to young men all around the world to [ __ ] get up off their ass and get sh it don't matter if you score high on a test you whatever the [ __ ] it is that you do well maybe not so it matters what the [ __ ] you do but it also doesn't matter what the [ __ ] you do anybody is a winner as long as you put in the work and you have the will to win and I love it I I would say that's wrong I would say that not anybody is a winner and I think that's something that the brand also stands for like you really got to win you got to as you have the will to win no I'm just saying I think that's an important point cuz we live in a world today where a lot of people think everybody can be a winner that's not true if you Los you might be a loser and if you're a loser the good news is there's a hidden l in the logo actually we'll trace it for you with our graphic design team there's a hidden l in the logo because and I I I wanted to make sure that was was a thing because the biggest loss of my life turned out to be the biggest W in my life and I always had the saying like two L's make a w and when I lost to Tommy Fury it was embarrassing all these things but I realized I wasn't focused I wasn't as locked in as I could be the team around me from a boxing standpoint wasn't good I was having personal issues with relationships and all of these things that I had to shed and grow from and I grew into this new and completely different person but I wouldn't have done that if I didn't lose on the biggest stage possible and I think that was part of the ethos ethos ethos ethos of the brand was to encourage people that in their lowest moments to turn those into into their biggest W's eventually when Jake just said that the biggest loss of his life ended up being the biggest W of his life you said same yeah yeah same what what was that story for supposedly lost for lost to Cheeto back in 2020 August it it was I mean it sucked at the time but I it didn't suck too bad because I was like okay I didn't lose because I you know and it was different I wasn't I mean I was focused everything went good training camp everything was good but I was like that sucks I'm goingon to get that back someday when the time is right and then my last fight two two months ago in Miami headline I'm the champ defending my belt against that same guy how rewarding was that three and a half years later August three and a half years later boom beat his ass as a fan of yours it made it so sweet because of all the doubters that constantly like put you down and didn't believe in you and said he was going to destroy you and then you he literally like you embarrass him that was a performance of a life you embarrassed the [ __ ] out of him and I think that's literally a prime example of turning l l into into a w and I really that's what that's where the hidden l in the brand in the logo is um and representing that every single day when you see these products in your bathroom and when we say we have a saying it's not just a product it's a lifestyle absolutely trademarked Incorporated All Rights Reserved 2024 brother uh but but yeah man it's it's an honor to have you a part of this and uh we we really made what we think are the best products on the market from the body wash being exfoliating vitamin infused to the body spray what we found out is a lot of these fragrances like you get like these high-end designer brands that have like $500 colognes turns out it only cost them a dollar to make that and they're literally making like $499 on top of that so we had a fine fragrance house is what these places are called and we got the super expensive scents and gave it to people to what they're worth like we're not trying to these products are super super affordable and I think it's so funny because that's the world we live in where like you just label something and get like a European girl to go this is one of the lower priced men's care products on the market yeah if I'm not mistaken and it's it's the $500 fragrance in the affordable bottle because we want everyone we've been using a body wash in the past two days since we got the samples after the shoot and I personally want to say I got the in there you could bleep it out whatever you want to do W's winning n b genuinely that's that's the saying is the it's winning formula cuz it really is like it really is if if we're going to call our company [ __ ] W it has to be the best we the winners winning product indeed indeed winning customers all that type of [ __ ] indeed better Derek today he's just got a punch I'm not Li I talked to him before he left he wants to punch you up bro he's got a punchable face I like him though it's weird it's like God I like that guy but I want [ __ ] KO pick him up and like it's okay boom one more to the liing me earlier and I'm just letting you know don't shoot the messenger on God he said he wants to get in the ring with you I can call him really he oh yeah he he you want to call him yeah where is he at is wait uh no call no call he's coming up oh um he's talking smack he said he actually wants a spar I swear to God he said he wants to get percentage should I go you guys I literally out let that's crazy timeing saying talk [ __ ] to my face if you're going to talk [ __ ] that's crazy timing what were you saying they were telling me you want to get in the ring and Spar bit or they didn't say Spar they said fight yeah I'm down to do either but uh yeah no I'm just sick of the [ __ ] [ __ ] you've been saying on your podcast uh you called me you made fun of my weight and you called me gay I did not no I well okay okay you said that he wouldn't ever say that what you got to say what your chest that's what I just [ __ ] said bro I he was like oh if I if stand on it you talking to him you talking to him you ain't talking to me my assistant Sono would would piece you he's never boxed a day he never I'm here to fight your video I'm here to fight you what did I what was the first thing I said to you when when I saw you what was the first thing I said to you that we could fight no I said you look thick wait but when we were talking earlier weren't you saying he's a [ __ ] and you wanted to get a ring with him and all type [ __ ] what I'm saying right now say it then I just said the [ __ ] ring so we can after this we have a ring 2 feet away and he's a [ __ ] and whatever else you was saying to me yeah he's [ __ ] what about my hair say something about my hair I I already said that at the W shoot that you look like you haven't showered in [ __ ] a week okay all right d hey buddy hey hey what's your long-term play not no but see you guys you guys are making me seem crazy you're out of your mind he Derek Dereck go warm up hit the hit the heavy back H the warm up is almost listen legendary as send location dble PIV go warm up hey hey double pivot sit sit I'm not [ __ ] no I I'll sit and talk but I'm not [ __ ] no sit on the floor walk you want to take my seat hey how much how much of what's going on ch ch how much of what's going on is is a character versus like actual delusion how much is a character yeah decent uh I would say there are times where I know what I have to do for my boxing career to like like we all why is he laughing cuz you said career I beat your [ __ ] boy your [ __ ] [ __ ] bro you know what I I recall you did beat I recall calling steiny saying what the [ __ ] was that buddy I love steiny but I do remember watching that and thinking I wasn't proud of that I was not proud of that from steiny and I wish I wish he would come to the gym I wish he'd get in there I wish he'd train a little bit and I wish he would have a rematch but that's on him I've been trying to get the rematch but he's been ding me do you think Derek won he said I won I thought I thought he won I'd have to rewatch but I do think I come on baby the comments have [ __ ] dragged me for months after that [ __ ] 99% of the comments say I lost so please say it one more time Sean no I said it what I said it's like therapy or something no but to answer your question uh we all know uh uh as Fighters there's a side of promotion stop [ __ ] first of all Gus shut the [ __ ] up our our audio guys uh like can't stop laughing is that the facial his facial hair or is what he's saying bro that's bold of you to talk facial hair bro that's bold of you to I'm not Li you look dirty you look like Jeffrey done training right Jesus I train every day but anyway we know like there's two sides of of promotion as well as the actual athletic competition that is Combat Sports so there are times where I might play up a little bit like hey promoting but let him go let him go all right if you if all if you think I'm all promoting that I'll see you in the [ __ ] ring and I'll knock both you either of you out well um well Jake's a [ __ ] fat [ __ ] right now he weighs like 240 so I got I goty I gotta pick my words wisely like he's Jake's 240 I I know I know but like I'm not going to sit here and pick a fight against somebody that's 240 when I'm se's my weight class when I stopped you in one round like just like but when I was getting started out of come this is where I'm at since then I told him he could have somebody tag team I'm down I'm down to fight anybody in this [ __ ] room not one person in this room I'm the best part about this is like uh right after this we I think you're you're down to do like one round or three minutes right I mean I'd prefer 12 but we okay yeah 12 I mean that my biggest advantage in the ring ring is my cardio I do 12 12 okay so no I have a genuine question so five round I'm not I'm not one have I ever said I'm a UFC fighter no I'm just say we can box I'm just saying that's I'm used to five you want to do three we could do that aren't you trying to be a boxer with your [ __ ] Ryan Garcia call he would knock knock your [ __ ] ass out so quickly it wouldn't be close I'm one and0 pro boxing what are you actually I saw that video I saw video I'm also want to know thank you officially hey they count that's real commiss but uh I didn't mean I didn't mean to take I didn't mean to take over the pot I just wanted to a couple you definitely didn't yeah okay I try I'm trying to help you no we love you go warm up yeah yeah go warm up the bags don't warm up too much though don't get tired how much do you wa right now without Timberlands and jean shorts on high 120 low 13 no without lying though okay that [ __ ] is you think you got you got him one round I think I could beat him I think I can beat him I I think I could handicap myself to three just put on one glove I could do that what do you think actually happens now when you go downstairs and he gets in that ring like what's his plan that's what I don't get about him but that's why it's that's do me a favor that's why he's Cloud it up because love [ __ ] up [ __ ] he's going he's going to try to Yap he's going to try to talk please just go 100% yeah no actually actually please go 100% if he signs a consent form we'll have him no we've already got like multiple consent forms for better media with like death wavers [ __ ] no no no but he needs it he needs that I'll go like 40 no go like 75 Sean I'm I'm going to be honest bro don't even go 20% he's the nice [ __ ] bro don't do that bro you want him to go 100% no no to be honest but just like work with him and then just like maybe just just like a really good punching and then he'll give up 75% uh I'm nervous man I'm shaking for Derek yeah yeah that's good I understand that there a couple flinches if you Flinch hard enough the the wind coming off you will put him down let him walk you down and bait him boom sleeping what's your next upcoming fight a maraba jaaba and when is that uh not nothing yet I'm hoping for September maybe October maybe November maybe December I'm F ready to go baby what if it was next month I wouldn't be ready to go I like I like 10 to 12 weeks 10 to 12 he likes eight I mean I I normally do like 10 yeah just like but I've been super the first few weeks are [ __ ] pre-amps this Camp I'm channeling my Ryan Garcia would you ever do a Ryan Garcia regiment during Camp drink and smoke every night you do a little I I probably yeah I'm not actually doing that for the people out there he's locked in clocked in locked in locked in ready to go yeah May 20th we start but by the time the people see this it'll be uh June or something like that that is crazy you're fighting Mike that you fought Ben asran wrestler good good [ __ ] UFC was really good UF bit Tyron Woodley twice Anderson Silva knockout of the year with Nate Robinson can't forget about deji deji the the the goat do we say Gibb or is that like that's just crazy resume like literally [ __ ] C by way thank you Gib cuz we had a really good party after he knocked you the [ __ ] out who W we're skipping two professional boxers this always no no the recent ones this always happens I'm trying to just think cuz two cuz this is what everybody asked for this is what everybody asked for who who are the two professional boxers you fighted you got to name them Andre August and Ryan Borland go okay people don't people are like fight a pro boxer and then I do and then they're like that was boring as a man of combat he what were 10 and one nine and one nine and one what is your take on his [ __ ] all of his fights and who he's fighting in the competition dude I've been excited as [ __ ] since I started I remember you I remember the first time I watched was the Nate Robinson I watched that one at home and then uh I don't remember what it was after that but I remember watching Ben Asam in Atlanta I think that was the first time we actually met was right after the fight I think we hugged I was like y I picked you up you carried me back to the locker room that it was love at first sight that was crazy actually yeah actually I [ __ ] with him we became best friends like a couple days later you going to leave me hanging no no I would it's my eyebrow but uh yeah no I think he's obviously super skilled I think it's and I I it's inspired me even in the position I'm at UFC World Champ sexy you know what I mean like tall dark handsome TR inspired me just business the business uh side of things that you've done I've always thought putting on massive fight that's why I'm such a huge Conor fan cuz the pay-per-views he's done is so [ __ ] he's been fighting for four years and [ __ ] that he's been doing the massive fights the fights I get excited for there's a few UFC fights the high the big big fights that I get excited for but every time you fought even when uh Logan fought Floyd I was [ __ ] like excited like all fight week so i' I've been inspired from what you've done from a business side from the boxing side they even just start so not late but for a boxer but these boxers start when they're [ __ ] three four years old like Ryan and tank like they're young buck the Tik Tac I sent you of Devon Haney's debut fight yeah it's wild he was fighting a five foot Mexican in a in a bar was it Dante bro if I show you this [ __ ] oh no I did see that I did see that I did see that when you started even seeing that first video fighting Anderson Silva six fights in bro like do you know how insane that is he's one of the greatest correct me if I'm wrong UFC Strikers in history yeah 100% so does that make me one of the greatest UFC Strikers and one of the greatest wrestlers cuz wood but Ben ask was but Nate Diaz is ducking me in MMA oh am crazy I am weak that's a sick fight MMA I I wish it was that would happened right after the boxing same he's actually ducking it which is why it's crazy because he's not he's not in UFC no but we we upped it to 15 million damn that's crazy though that would be a I like Nate Diaz but that would be such a fun buildup he actually doesn't want to do it all Sean how do you genuinely Jake's not here it's me and you in a room actually how do you see that fight going for Jake what MMA him you're not here J for Nate in MMA keep it a bean God it's it's so hard to you're a big [ __ ] right now on what weight would it be5 185 I don't hate I don't I it's not a it's a winable fight for you I really do think that but Nate is so [ __ ] you would have to do what I did against aljo and morab do not let that [ __ ] grab you not that you can't wrestle cuz I know you can wrestle but once he starts grabbing you and doing Jiu-Jitsu if he gets on top his little he likes his little trips it would be hard for you to win I feel like if he if he started grappling just pure Jiu-Jitsu if it let's be real if it goes to the floor is he [ __ ] if he's on his back Nate's not like a super strong guy so if you learn how to like I mean I'm sure you know how to get up to a single legegg stuff like that but then you start getting your neck grabbed I don't know how much Jiu-Jitsu you know I mean Nate's a [ __ ] high Lev black belt um if you could keep it standing 100% there's winnable ways there if he if he went to the ground feel like he might be able to grab your neck no that that's exactly how I feel about it if I don't get guillotined yeah then I win the fight because even if he was on top take your back but even if he was on top of me I would just throw him off of me cuz he's also the weakest puncher I've ever fought like when he was hitting me I was I almost like started laughing I'm I'm not even saying this to talk [ __ ] out of everyone I've sparred in my whole entire life and everyone I fought his punches are even me we I don't think you ever landed a punch on me is that true well that's not true so I don't anyone no I'm literally not even talking [ __ ] which is why I think it's funny that he dropped Connor and [ __ ] cuz it's just like how Conor with like to the ground yeah like with a straight left hand yeah which is crazy like I I'm not just talking [ __ ] when I say that and I've told you I've literally told you this you told me this after the fight yeah I was like he is the weakest puncher I've ever fought in my life who's who's the weakest puncher you've ever you've ever come to face um there I mean there's been so many fights where I later didn't even get hit um uh does that like make you jaded at all when you get into a fight and you don't really get love that [ __ ] I prefer not to get hit at all but like if I was you and I wasn't get hit at all I'd probably work less no no no no I I know I don't get hit because I work that hard so if I didn't work hard I know I'd probably get hit I'm just a lazy [ __ ] so so here you are on top of the world we're launching [ __ ] W going to be a billion dollar business [ __ ] you I always forget uh UFC champ accomplishing all your goals what do you want next uh what are what is the threeyear fiveyear for Sean I I truly do want to get a boxing fight I'm not I'm not super set on that to where like I'm like going to be [ __ ] if it doesn't happen I do think it'll be interesting especially if I go out there knock morab out Ryan does his thing I think there's a [ __ ] sweet fight there if it doesn't happen not that worried about it want to go out there beat morab I'd like to you know if Max Max and Elia fight I would like to fight go move up to 45 fight the winner of that um you know maybe have three to five maybe have a few more kids definitely want another little baby I love kids my fite pump him out shout out to Danny who's your top pick in a boxing fight though if you if you could choose your Ryan now was like the I mean what he after dvon Beat Ryan I was like javante then Ryan goes out there does his thing really though I think Dante do you is that is that not a big [ __ ] leap Ryan like you said before he's been doing this his whole life one thing that's been proven is that the crossover it's it's not a good return Fury he did his thing okay the excep is the exception we've seen it with okay but then Anthony Joshua put his ass t was crazy super night night he was I'm I'm here for big fights like I wanted to get into the UFC and I wanted to make big fights watching Conor versus Floyd I'm like that [ __ ] happened really happened hey you versus Derek that could be as big as Connor in Floyd but no but I I think the craziest [ __ ] about Conor versus Floyd is that overall it was a W for everyone involved so there's certain fights where it just like doesn't matter what happens that's the world we live in yeah I mean UFC told me they said if the if the fight's big enough and it'll make the UFC money they'll do it what means more to you your your your record being pre or the amount of money you're making all right let me ask you something it's about to get real J's drunk Jasper's drunk as [ __ ] y record or money [ __ ] it depends the Gap like like the gap of money if it's like an extra 10 15 20 million but I lose a couple important fights probably not you just take like 150 million I'll be like like [ __ ] my record baby yeah it depends on the gap of money Jake Paul is not here right now just like a Mayweather Conor McGregor you taking that fight ver Jake yeah no he's my buddy I could I mean I don't I don't even no I no funny no there's you know what's funny is always in my Snapchat story once once a day pretty much someone says we knock out Jake Paul like there's every sing all the time for so long people just want to see me get [ __ ] is good though that's like the thing yeah but I'm sensitive it is funny though people [ __ ] love to hate confidence the craziest thing though actually about both of you like I met you very recently like I didn't realize you're as like normal as you are I don't know why I thought you violent like you guys are both like very goofy mellow and stupid and c and and awesome it's like the greatest thing ever like I couldn't believe when I met you you're like one of us like yeah I wouldn't think you're a [ __ ] yeah one of the coolest people in the world for sure yeah but not a lot of people uh can like I don't know we have like a weird it's hard toes Meat Heads I'm like this the this my dog I think it's a little bit of dark humor too it's like some [ __ ] up [ __ ] that we say off camera [ __ ] sometimes but I think it's like there's a certain yeah like that's how my whole group is back home it's like we all just we're all just kind of [ __ ] dumb I'm smart but like they're dumb well someone commented like yo Jake Paul's the dumbest genius in the world and I was just like I say that [ __ ] all the time you wed up the other day and I was like this is the most genius dumbass in the world no jokes Hey Brother chill buddy trying to get me cancelled no what how old are you 23 are you really yeah no you're not he's not is he what do you think think what did you think Oh no you're 267 27 what did you think he was I thought he was older I thought he was like 27 26 yeah a niggaer mature was that ladies you got a boo you got a girl you just be slanging she timeout right now I don't really talk about she don't time out it's a little tricky she not taking care of herself what do you guys think about Tom Brady R you watch it yeah they kept comp panning to you every 5 Seconds bro I swear there's a huge camer sitting there the whole time but it's cool to see Netflix going hard like that cuz they went hard they swing that meat around huha yeah let's pivot yeah just sorry about him I'm drunk man not yeah but but it was it was great it wasar they should have got rid of most of the football players going up there yeah there's a couple ones Ben afflac is that who that was on there that was wild that was so weird that was so weird it was cool to see how [ __ ] less sensitive people are becoming I feel like feel like it's recently like there's a big push back I think people got sick of it we went super super super PC for a long time people were like wait a second we like being able to say what we want to say I saw kill Tony say oh type of crazy [ __ ] on there that watch every [ __ ] Monday you were on kill Tony yeah how old are you actually buddy I'm a comedian Budd full time no yeah I was on that I was nervous as hell though I was like just being it's a live I do podcast once a week like me and Tim do our podcast every [ __ ] week but to be there in front of an audience live it's weird it's a different kind of well so you say Tim but let's let's talk about actually the fact that you get trained by by one of the greatest boxers of all time it's really that's something what's happened like that's crazy working with Canelo as your as your coach that's what I'm saying people don't going to be Ryan but like yeah that is true I never even thought about that for did you even know that this guy proba even know that that orange [ __ ] is nice wait will I get cancelled by the ginger community no you're black oh no my dad my dad's Ginger and I'm I'm like this [ __ ] is ginger bro he be shaving he be shaving his beard and I zoom in zoom in it's it's slightly orange so I'm a quarter ginger on South Park they made fun of Gingers and that [ __ ] made the news I [ __ ] with the ginger people but like y'all [ __ ] you like redhead girls oh yeah was Super Soaker but anyway yeah like y'all [ __ ] is orange and that's okay but back to you one of y'all that's not drunk I got a question cuz this guy clipped out a lot did Tim actually like you guys about him like saying to fight that was yeah that was real Tim always be talking [ __ ] to the like he's been doing that for so long so what happened he just talk I mean he just he Alo the knee's coming Alo you got to shoot Alo watch out for this like he's been saying that since I've been in the UFC like my debut vers terion where he was talking [ __ ] to terion too and uh he just does it every fight but this happened to just be crazy timing to like Tim you got Tim like alre you got to go and like literally he he like that's when he threw that left hand or whatever stepped into Southpaw and uh or stepped into Orthodox and got dropped it was it was funny the timing because he's like Al you got to go I don't I truly don't think that's why that's not why Alo went I bet you could I bet Alo didn't even hear that but Tim's always chirping and stuff but people on the internet are [ __ ] mad about that a lot of them actually like it I'll say majority of people are thinking that's the funniest [ __ ] ever there's a couple [ __ ] that are like you should be banned think it's a fight would you run the alra fight back or one and done never I like that why would I yeah am I supposed to top that you know what I'm saying I got love for Alo we had him on the show and he he seems like a good dude I actually don't mind Alo I does that ever happen where like you'll have a personal relationship with someone personal runin with them and it's all great but then now all of a sudden you have to fight each other I've never had I've not of running with someone that's been like uh more than like I've ran into aljo morab at the UFC I'm like hey what's up talk to him a little bit you know nothing no ill will um but I haven't had like a run with someone I actually lik them mhm and then at the fight them so you're not friends with any any other UFC fighters oh I have a there's there's a couple guys in my in my weight class that I train with at the lab that are like climbing the r uh ladders what happened with uh the 125 pounder I I don't even know his name and I'm not I'm just not like yeah what's his name I Alexander pania bro this story is actually kind of funny so 2016 I think it was it was like 3 and0 4 and0 and I was still fighting at like I fought at 125 not too long before that I fought at like 130 which is in a weight class was like so I wasn't like a 155 like I am now I was probably like 14 back then and uh Henry cejudo comes in I'm three or four and0 at the point at this point it comes in with this kid Alexander PTO just won The Ultimate Fighter I think he's got his UFC debut or it's his second UFC fight he's a couple weeks out from his fight I'm [ __ ] the night before me and Tim ripping bongs like hanging out being goofballs and [ __ ] so the next morning so we brought him in for sparring hry sudo brings in Alexander you're 4-0 he's King [ __ ] he he's just won The Ultimate Fighter and so they write the names on on the board who who you're sparring I'm like oh [ __ ] I got Alexander Pantoja versus me for one round one round he has three rounds so you write one one name then usually you you spar with one guy then they go out you spar with a fresh guy they go out spar with the fresh guy that's usually how it works so my name was just up there for one round that's it we Spar one round I didn't know anything about him cuz I I didn't really watch it like that 25 I don't really watch 25ers like that but somebody's like oh [ __ ] that's he a black belt he just won The Ultimate Fighter I was like oh [ __ ] I got to [ __ ] Focus up here first round boom Dro him with a liver kick and I wasn't going to post I record all my rounds I have so many sparring rounds like I wasn't going to post it was and for some reason I don't know why he would talk [ __ ] and bring it up cuz I literally I don't know you know know I don't know if you know how it works but you finish a guy the fight's over right no no did he um so I finished him the first round he hit him boom with the liver I posted the video yesterday and I've had it for a long time I didn't want to post it CU you don't post sparring like that but he just kept bringing it up so boom finished him first round um then uh after the first round round I go to walk out and Henry's over there crying box of Kleenex just like [ __ ] wiping his tears crying we want you for a second round so mad that this little like I was nobody just finished his dude he's in the UFC he's supposed to be the man finish him in the first round so Henry's crying saying he wants another round um so I piece him up again in the second round and I'm I'm dying at this point my lungs are burning I'm not in shape for fight I I'm nowhere near in Camp for a fight and I my lungs are hurting and uh Henry again crying blowing his nose and like I want you for a third and Benson comes in Benson Henderson absolute Legend comes in and was yelling cuz that's his it was the his gym the MMA lab we don't let people come in our gym and make us tired and blah blah blah and I'm [ __ ] just just huffing and puffing I just got done work in this dude for 10 minutes finished him in the first round did I say that liver kick um we'll put the footage I have the foot yeah it's right there insert the footage so third round come out boom piece him up again and he's so I don't know why he keeps bringing up this bringing this up in the media I think it's because people ask him but I don't know why he doesn't just say yeah yeah no no I don't want to talk about it he keeps saying like he's like oh I got in I found his range and [ __ ] I'm like bro you you stopped him in one round stopped him in round one and let him live and continue to fight for round two these delusional uh like wild people are weirdos but the reason I posted cuz he kept bringing it up exactly wait so is he the champ now at 125 yeah okay but why does he still want to talk [ __ ] to you if you got [ __ ] up that's what I'm saying I don't know either either you drop to 125 and get that no I can't drop to 125 that's too much now you're a thick [ __ ] I am a thick but yeah I SP I think it's important for up and cominging Spar uh fighters to record their rounds and watch their rounds not for that this reason you know but just to I've improve so much watching my sparring y I have thousands of rounds maybe not thousands hundreds of rounds from 10 years ago on my on my computer of uh it's like NFL team is watching footage the time [ __ ] 100% got to watch that [ __ ] that's I I have every single round recorded and and again I I don't post sparring either exactly you know put in a highlight video make a vlog boom we're sparring people but it's never like [ __ ] up your guy yeah exactly but Mike Perry honestly like what he's been doing is pretty Fu he went to Bare knuckle that [ __ ] just meant for him bare knuckle fighting it's crazy different going crazy he's doing good he's [ __ ] undefeated over there he's beating some really good guys stay over here [ __ ] [ __ ] only place that you should be getting tickets from is game time.co it's it's the only place I go it is the only place you can possibly go they have 110% price match guarantee that's what we use to get our tickets for the NBA Finals you can get $20 off your first order go to gametime.co JJ a $20 off your first order they're doing a deal specifically for y'all and you could see where your tickets are before you buy them seeing the seats they have all of the these great policies last 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platform there is Mike Paul versus Jake Tyson here's my official prediction tell us and even if even if it's against me like it's not it's not I do think you're going to beat Mike Tyson uh it's crazy that I even saying that out loud right now cuz you're fighting Mike Tyson it's [ __ ] crazy even just when we were walking down the the street today people all genders all ages knew you were fighting Mike Tyson it's such a massive fights live on Netflix which is [ __ ] crazy it's in a stadium which is [ __ ] crazy it is crazy I believe in you I see what you I see what you're doing I see you know that you believe in yourself Mike Tyson is uh hasn't fought in however long it's been so for him to just come up and get a fight be I I'm sure is going to be in as good a shape as he possibly could be in but it's just you know it's it's it's it's not his time right now I love Mike Tyson I never actually met him but I love Mike Tyson I do think Jake's gonna get the job done and I do think eight rounds eight two-minute rounds eight two-minute rounds I believe I believe you could put them away in the later rounds you know five six seven eight I do think you could put it put him down which is crazy to even [ __ ] think you rap yeah that's fire I'm just lazy and inconsistent that's not a w no that sh it is not you start using Brandon yell at him every day but cuz you can actually spit that's fire no but but people know him now from like podcasting they don't know he's a rapper and hurts his soul J sick name Lil jizz what J JZ that's good that's good you should switch your [ __ ] I switch my [ __ ] from come Master to kill Jas bro honestly though that's I think singing rapping spitting is one of the things that if I could switch talents be doing something like that that's good or twerking I ain't going to lie you shook that [ __ ] earlier I got a I got a thing on me you that [ __ ] wiggle a little bit let's let's pivot though cuz yep hit a pivot uh yeah do we have a speaker should we play Jasper's new song or something you got a new one I thought you were lazy some new [ __ ] go ahead play on your phone just put it in the speaker put it in the mic too this the [ __ ] I'm dropping when I'm Indie that sound decent I'm not rapping either I'm yapping that's not going to get you drunk yo I made this beat that's crazy I like the way you look I won't lie you got something I need you my with a fly girl like you doing with no guy a little sh don't really go outside I'm not crazy right place and right time you all smiles and pretty light brown [Music] [Music] like that better if I forget you but I just can't time saying do better and I'm sure you can find that guy that's worth all right cut it cut it cut it that's that's enough that's enough that's enough that's enough for real can't give the whole thing it's not out yet yeah hey good [ __ ] that's fire I'll be rapping though but that's some pop [ __ ] just cuz I can do it so why are you consistent cuz I'm lazy and jaded and and spoiled yeah it's unfortunate maam shout out to the homies for a lot of talented people out there that just are yeah don't smoke crack yo also there there is a parallel there don't do don't do that there's a parallel with the same thing he's talking about I think Fighters probably where it's like you could have all the talent in the world he's got that's why I get so [ __ ] mad at him it's cuz he has all the talent in the world really I get more pissed off than he gets and he could be a superstar but he just is lazy he doesn't put the work in he's not he's not strategic and it is hard when you got when you live in a crib in Puerto Rico right you got chefs and [ __ ] and you fly private with me yeah that's it that's it bro that's it you got to you got get paychecks and [ __ ] y'all got to evict me that's not a bad idea honestly I think we talked about it let's make I was I'm H we had a conversation but I just can't I can't because I love you so much I need you but then I'll probably be more like need you y yeah I guarante and then we you would still have to like fly in once a week to to do the pods and it would be resentment and then I I'll go out like and I'll try to start shooting at y'all oh my God I guarantee I would be in the position I'm in if I if I had money and like had already made it like financially had [ __ ] I wouldn't have made it that's why people think I'm crazy but CC the other side of it is like boom right so I'm from com California same hey shout out my [ __ ] yeah man I was homeless for the first half of my life mom's a drug addict dad's a gang member I've never had anything in my life right and my whole life has been music I dropped out in ninth grade I was like I'm going to make music my dad kicks me out he's like you can't live under this roof like be more like your brothers my brothers are [ __ ] star students one got a full ride scholarship loser all all type of [ __ ] nerd ass [ __ ] all those [ __ ] are fat and unemploy now one dropped out of school a full rise scholarship and is just sitting at home right so boom from having nothing to like me saying I'm going to risk everything that I have in my life to become a music artist and it works I get to a certain place and I'm like damn I did exactly I hit a ceiling right so it's like now I had to recalibrate he got a big record deal and then and then like use I crashed out and became a m addict for four four days a week for 30 like 90 days oh it's not bad but then I moved cuz my homeboy was like you need to move and I was like nah [ __ ] that I made a million I ain't going to move I'm going to maintain this lifestyle I'm a junkie but I'm rich yep I crashed out and was like yeah I need to move lost 60 lbs went to Puerto Rico locked in recalibrated and now I'm ready to be but that's that's here's the problem we run into now is that you've recalibrated and now it's still it's been 6 months the album's supposed to be 6 months ago and we're still waiting for the album that's the problem and that's what you got to work on never too late though let's start it let's get because you're vitamin deficient right yeah yeah cuz like a lot of people can't think straight when they're vitamin deficient and all that a week ago kind of elaborated on that so yeah this isn't therapy um I got shout out Suzie right right huh Susie but she's hot is she not you think my therapist you guys got the same one I could pee and vape on this podcast I got to go pee go pee I could pee yeah I mean I think we I think we end the episode because uh let's wrap it up you can get W available at Walmart anyway if you walk into Walmart whether you with your mom your daddy you by yourself you go in that [ __ ] men body care aisle you buy that and comment down below what you thought of the episode for um us being brain fried over and uh jper but Buzz also comment cuz this coming out when the product releases comment your favorite scent and sent $10,000 right no I'm send you 1,000 I ain't got 10,000 for you but I'll send you 1,000 I'll send someone 10,000 he'll send you 10,000 I'll send you a th000 and I'm going through the comments for sure anyway good luck Charlie and if you got a test soon good luck on that [ __ ] that's what we [Music] do what are those 8 O gloves I want you to know they were talking up there he ain't going easy so be ready all right legit be ready buddy I'm using these bags don't show Too Much don't show we're boxing we're boxing I don't I do that on accident sometimes just know that that might come up just keep your hands up I'm just saying I might throw that up I haven't knocked someone out in a while just cuz my last fight didn't go off it went off five rounds I've been like craving just putting someone's lights out lately it's weird versus your boy better Derek I I hope Sean isn't nice and just [ __ ] him up that's your that's your trainee [ __ ] D all righty folks welcome to your main event of the evening starting out first in the loser corner you have better day with a record of no wins no losses I beat ste's [ __ ] out no anything he is 5'7 120 lbs lost in the mile to better JoJo but he's still delusional in his fighting career and to my left in the winning Corner sponsored by W sugar sha Ali The Undefeated UFC champion of the world it's time to fight bring it to the center we already spoke about the rules in the locker room beforehand give me your glove give me your hand touch gloves I want a clean fair fight no no hits below the waist back to your Corners time you ready judge you ready and fight [Music] [Applause] I'm out of balance or something oh do Dodge that [ __ ] hold on hold on hold on hold [ __ ] come on come on just oh my God one back of the head no no no back of the head four ref didn't see it five six me in the eyes Walk This Way Walk This Way for me he's running Walk This Way for me my car run all right and we're in in that right that's called all right time time time one two that was a that was a slip four up six bro Rizo what the [ __ ] are you doing all right get up SLP all right come on time in come on got come on got you [ __ ] black I'm going to I need to work I need to see some work black UT D somebody said 10 seconds like 8 seconds ago all right great back to your corner back to your corner back to your corner stay in there you're doing good right now this feel good I feel good do you see that one I landed clean on his face I think we all terrible shut the [ __ ] up for once in your [ __ ] life shut the [ __ ] up Sean's doing half punches on him shut up I'll act like uh no don't act like bro I'm just I'm putting in work all right how this how you when you [ __ ] beat the old wash UFC fighters everybody comments you're fighting old was UFC fighters what do you think 10s I think they're right in in round two round two round two oh got him [ __ ] oh [Music] [ __ ] hey put that hey that that's a that's going to be a 10 count can't get me by the that's going to be a 10 count that's going to be a 10 count next time back in the just there going to be a 10 count next time get in there give me real quick get him with some you thank you perfect okay BL I'm going to need to see some more one two back to your corner white Corner neutral Corner 5 6 seven eight n look at me thank you bro come on you want to fight do you want to fight when I do you want to fight yes yeah wait wait time back in wake up time time time time time I promise okay it's to the floor the rules of transfer to MMA tap tap tap he's St he's T he's ta all right I block out all right you're good to go wait wait the fight was over get the [ __ ] out of the ring oh it's over it's over it's over it's over go you got it's over it's over it's over [Music]	I ever said I'm a UFC fighter no I'm just say we can box I'm just saying that's I'm used to five you want to do three we could do that aren't you trying to be a boxer with your [ __ ] Ryan Garcia call he would knock knock your [ __ ] ass out so quickly it wouldn't be close I'm one and0 pro boxing what are you actually I saw that video I saw video I'm also want to know thank you officially hey they count that's real commiss but uh I didn't mean I didn't mean to take I didn't mean to take over the pot I just wanted to a couple you definitely didn't yeah okay I try I'm trying to help you no we love you go warm up yeah yeah go warm up the bags don't warm up too much though don't get tired how much do you wa right now without Timberlands and jean shorts on high 120 low 13 no without lying though okay that [ __ ] is you think you got you got him one round I think I could beat him I think I can beat him I I think I could handicap myself to three just put on one glove I could do that what do you think actually happens now when you go downstairs and he gets in that ring like what's his plan that's what I don't get about him but that's why it's that's	2	8	6	I ever said I'm a UFC fighter no I'm just say we can box I'm just saying that's I'm used 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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXPZ1KzdpsY	4,103	mXPZ1KzdpsY	2024-06-20 00:00:00	well well well ladies and gentlemen do we have a special episode for you today none other than sugar Shan om Ali the current UFC bantamweight champion a legend in his own right this episode was off the cusp we were a little turned up Jasper was really really drunk so we weren't really prepared for this at all the conversations definitely got wild and obviously as you guys have seen over maybe the past week or so we launched a new company called w am men's carine in Walmart this company is so near and dear to my heart and I partnered with Shawn to bring this Vision to life amongst other celebrities artists and athletes that we are announcing over the next couple of weeks here get your w at Walmart it is very very very very very good stuff and yes you heard the news I am fighting Mike Perry on July 20th it is going down I'm still fighting Mike Tyson November 15th that is happening but I'm staying active knocking out Mike Perry on July 20th and I'm excited for y'all to listen to this episode and he the vision of w how it all came together and how Shawn got involved and then everything to do with Shawn's career this podcast has been a long time coming but prepare yourself for some idiocracy per usual uh this is [ __ ] with Jake Paul we have a secret handshake check it out AC let me get that stop playing mean yeah we created that because we actually have so many things to get into here this has been a long time coming Jasper did bring up something and the reason W was created was because the other products in the category had harmful dyes parabens sulfates hormone disruptors and so we wanted to create the better for you vitamin infused product and and Sean's a co-owner just signed today yesterday for the show but we we'll get into all of that we we've been you know bringing sea on for like we've been talking for like a month and a half yes sir yes sir um it is currently May we've been doing a lot of shoots this podcast will probably come out at post W launch you can get I'm so drunk I'm sorry y'all you can get it in uh Walmart every Walmart you in Paca Walmart get it in you in Pensacola it's in Walmart in Kentucky Walmart Walmart so basically uh we we brought in the greatest people in the world to help build W and Sean is one of those people but dialing everything back we will get into the company the body washes how this all came about but uh we've been wanting to do this podcast and thanks for joining us BR hey guys hey thanks for joining us right did you uh yeah I did you sh for an hour bro did you did you do do we know do we set the stage of the day and the fact that Jasper's slash right now okay cool y drunk is a [ __ ] y like double drunk yep yep yep you drunk yeah all that so um but just winding everything back uh I think we've been friends for a long time in fact you were the first guest on this show oh [ __ ] crazy Zoom crazy that's right that's right that's right the first ever episode you zoomed in and that's crazy we're thankful we're thankful for our friendship and it's pretty cool that now we're here again today uh getting less views than before and that's fire that's it congratulations less views we're not we're not it was it was a joke it was a joke if you watching this please like and comment cuz we falling off right now but man by the time this comes out you're going to be getting ready for me RAB how do you say his name I don't remember morab is iTab or or I don't know me that's got to be it me but you got to say it with the emphasis look meab mirab meab meab there you go there you go so yeah I should be getting ready hopefully I ain't got nothing scheduled hopefully uh you know Uncle Dana will call me say hey buddy you want to fight in in here and there and there and then I'm d b boom and that that's how that works what's up with everybody on your body though everybody talking [ __ ] even people youat I wanted to bring up yeah and he's like saying like he's trying to post about you even yesterday it is weird but when you concuss someone you know what I just say they don't think as well as they used to so I think he's still concussed and he's a little confused because he's talking [ __ ] still he not in his right mind because I can just throw up another post go because it's a throwback Thursday it's a throwback Friday do you think do you think people don't respect you enough cuz I I see that as your friend an unbiased like they just see social media and podcasts and the the hair and stuff like that and then they just sh week but I [ __ ] with you I appr that um I don't think it is well you can't you know I think it's fine I think you're jealous I ain't going to lie I got some inches under here let's smell that hair you can smell my [ __ ] must who I do think I feel a little bit disrespected as the champ but I think that last fight against Che kind of you know shut a little bit of people up canny go five rounds Cheeto beat me before the Alo fight um shut a lot of people up canny grapple didn't have to Grapple cuz he couldn't take me down yeah Alo couldn't take you down I think that was the biggest thing where they were like yo that's his weakness like yeah wrestle him down and then he just proved everyone wrong that's what's so interesting about this morab fight is he's supposedly well he is he's [ __ ] good at wrestling he's really really good at wrestling he's boring as [ __ ] and no one will there won't be one comment saying yeah right he's actually kind of fun not one person I'm com won I'm com you can I ask you something would you put yourself in your own top five Strikers in the UFC oh I'm yeah yo easily who's your Mount Rushmore strikker well I I mean I would unbiasedly I would put him as number one because adna is in like top three but he also like got beat by put that [ __ ] down boy he did uh bro I'm up there I'm up there Max is really good Max super his striking that's a good top five there that's four me Max Elia adaga uh I'm sure I'm missing some your with a one would it be that's that's a minus one Mount rmore is four yeah but I only got four but if you throw the five in it's a plus one isn't there only four yeah but but you ready to throw the five up I'm four all right that's my more but yeah once again uh this is a [ __ ] ass podcast so we apologize hey but something something you just touched on you talked about Fighters being fun and interesting how much and you're you're a superstar how much of you being a superstar how much of any fighter being a superstar comes down to them being fun and interesting as you are and how much of it comes down to their actual fighting good question uh well who's a super who who obviously Connor comes to mind I think he's he's a character he's fun he's interesting who else comes to mind is like a superstar I would say Izzy gives that off I think he's an interesting guy other than that there's not like a ton of fun like Ryan Garcia is doing a really good job right now of being [ __ ] interesting being a character uh I think that's fentel I think it's drugs as well I wouldn't deny that but he's still making people interested in Ryan versus Devon Haney was an interesting fight not because Devon Haney that dude's boring as [ __ ] you think he did them roids no I don't think Ryan did I think Devon needs to take that L he being a [ __ ] about I think the craziest [ __ ] you said to me and like I don't even know if we want to put this in there or bring it up but we we can always remove it but uh because of your your situation with the ostarine and you said to me like and it I like fully felt your energy you're like I swear on my daughter's life I never did that and you got popped for it yeah same thing happened uh to Ryan right now he popped for aost the low super low level a some [ __ ] like a trillionth of a gr the same thing happened to me uh so when that came out with Ryan like I truly truly didn't believe he took anything because it was the same [ __ ] and it happens to a lot of [ __ ] ostarine happens to how does that happen it's called the tainted supplement so if you're taking anything that has protein in it that's not third party tested uh could not just protein any kind of supplement that's not third party tested it's either NSF or there's a bunch of different third party tests but if you're not if you're taking something that doesn't have that there's chances there could be something in it but austram people pop for that all the time my case was not that big of a deal cuz I wasn't as huge of a star as I am now but it still was like a big deal because of my name the reason it's going so crazy right now is because Ryan G is a superstar so people are freaking out but it happens to a lot of athletes I just before we move past it I just on that Superstar topic how is that is that Superstar factor that that someone like you has someone like Ryan has someone like Connor has is it something you're born with or is it is it a practice is it something you can learn and do you sit back and like think like oh how can I go viral today how can I I think it's both I think you have to want to be a superstar there's some guys in the UFC like I want to make more money I want this I want that but they don't really want to be a superstar you you got to want it you got to you got to have some kind of vision a long time before well and and also like who you are as a person you have to have that like Fire Within still though like before you got into want famous I want to be in the NFL I want to be NBA I wanted to be a [ __ ] athlete when I was young was instilled I was just for whatever reason I wanted to make it when I was young I'm from H in Montana like small ass can I ask you something what's your opinion on like the take b nickel takes like where he's like super friendly and humble and like I think he's a sweet ass [ __ ] they love him but like bro that [ __ ] pisses me off I think that [ __ ] is cool too n like you're a hum like [ __ ] talk your [ __ ] you're what 670 like bro talk your [ __ ] like it it kind of bores me no I get yeah I mean that's that's some people's opinion is like he's too nice too humble too that but he's being himself um but he's also super young in the sport I think he and he's still pretty what is he 28 you're in a sport of War if I was playing like [ __ ] Cricket I would be like yeah like but that's that's the thing is for for for a character like him what it seems like is that's what he's in is the sport of war and that's it he's not in the sport of entertainment he's a nice ass sweetheart get there is some people that that understand both sides of things but I also have respect for and I see when someone's that's strictly in the sport of if I play chess with you I'm going to be like good game and I'm going to shake your hand I talk [ __ ] be F ass to a PO it I'm going to be like [ __ ] you you need to get better at whatever you're doing dial dialing it back a little bit um to the aost stream thing I think it's like what do you think about Conor tweeting still at like 3:00 a.m. like coked out he he he he sent shots at me and Ryan talking [ __ ] but it's it's crazy coming from Connor who literally got out of the usada pool to do steroid like legit steroids so it's kind of wild and I was the biggest Connor fan for a long time in the last couple weeks ever since he sent that wasn't even a couple weeks ago probably a week ago I've been trying to hate him I've been trying to be like [ __ ] you Connor but I can't I love Connor I it's like I am excited for his fight coming up I'm excited I want you know I'm all about it what's the fight is it Chandler Chandler in June it's going to be big they just been trying to do it for a long time so I didn't know if it still still I think officially I think it's I think I think the craziest part about it is what like eight weeks before a fight that he's still like coked and drunk out of his mind who you got though who that's a good it is crazy that he still like he tweeted that deleted like 20 minutes later he was definitely [ __ ] up on well that's what I was going to say we can't just Grace past that do you is that that's a that's a bold thing to say do you you know he's on coke is that a is that are you [ __ ] gills I don't know anything but I know for certain that he's brother like look at the time of the tweets and look at what he's saying like also and he's like known for this simar tweets yeah yeah I don't know just manic brother I think he is I do think Ryan is I think he when he said he was playing into it a little bit I I think he's kind of using that I think he's [ __ ] crazy what what what would happen if you and Ryan boxed that's I mean there's only one way to find out he has a lot better chances of beating me in a boxing match than he does in a real fight keep up I do I I [ __ ] I truly believe in myself that's how I got to the [ __ ] position I'm in right now I can box I can throw hands um I don't think it'd be easy by any means I do think it's possible I beat him I'm not saying my my odds are great but I do believe I could beat Ryan Bo if there was anybody you could box for your first boxing match debut who are you Bo give an easy fight give me Deon Haney you give [Laughter] me honest answer uh I mean if we're I I would say Floyd if I Pi if I could sit here and pick who I box first boxing fight I pick Floyd because it would be the biggest most crazy most legendary fight maybe not most legendary some people for me okay but outside of that on a skill based level oh I I could hang with some good [ __ ] pro boxers I'm undefeated in boxing you think you think if you and uh ilot boxed that' be ilot is very very [ __ ] skilled boxing that's an interesting question so who what what professional boxer would you equate your PA Mike Tyson I know of Devon Haney now because Ryan Garcia beat him uh dvon Davis he's really short I know him um maybe smacking [ __ ] up though he does he that little guy he can't he can't ride roll coasters though that is true so there's a there's a tradeoff like Cruz fight he was riding a roller coaster no like I'm talking about like at the fair oh no you know like there there's a trade-off in life you know where things get weird it's like it's like yo he's really good but you can't even just hit Dante fan brother can't even ride the top not a Dante fan that's not what I'm wait what did what did I say to say I'm not a you didn't say I mean I don't think he knows that it's a short joke I don't think he picked up on you want me tell him I was joking shut the [ __ ] up I get I say that was a joke I'm what are you trying to say I'm but are you trying to insinuate that I'm short no honestly you're probably what five you're 5'9 you're like 5' seven and a half stop doing stop doing it stop doing that cuz [ __ ] is going to see this and be like he's 5'6 actually if you watching this and you think I'm 5'6 and you want to try me in person please any [ __ ] who see me out I'm punching your [ __ ] out I'm like 5'9 on a good day when when I'm lying to women I'm 5'10 for sure who's gonna ID me I'm wearing forces I'm a [ __ ] liar all right so now for the truth jakee he's like what like he's 5 No but don't do that bro all right all right we won't we'll cut that out like yeah n don't cut it out n don't see me and see these but you know dvon is 5'5 legit that's cool bro I know but is that not short just be honest is that five five short for a grown man for a grown man is that short you can be a fan I'm not I'm a fan of javante and he's five that's a little little bro all right the joke went over his head anyways so the short joke [ __ ] is trying to play me like I'm short no no no we're we're not we're not you're [ __ ] tall all right let's pivot yeah so um SI yeah sh shout out to the shout out to the pivot but but yeah like Jasper's a little riled up things are on edge he's a little he's a little turned up it's been a long day a long two days we've been shooting uh because we have a new [ __ ] company did we say we talk about that yet I we said in the beginning raise your arms up [ __ ] goed [ __ ] goed shout out to w a fun few days it's been a fun few days days you're going to see the content rolling out um but you speaking of but Ruby Rose did a good job oh my God I wanted to bite that M listen anyway if you're near wmart if you're watching this right now I don't give a [ __ ] what you're doing you could be taking care of your kid you could be taking care of your elderly parents [ __ ] them go to Walmart June 1st Nationwide I don't care if you in Pensacola you in Massachusetts all in places that sound [ __ ] stupid there's a Walmart there and you go there it's a better for you product vitamin ifuse number [ __ ] one yeah no basically I I think dialing back like the business story of it because you're also like a very smart businessman intellectual doing everything you do in and outside of the Ring which a lot of people don't have which contributes to you being uh the biggest in my opinion the biggest UFC star um but yeah we we basically I guess this is the podcast where we tell people where W came from but um we started building this company like a year and a half ago and really saw how all these other companies like as we move into better for you products and less harmful products we saw how the leaders in the space didn't have the best formulas didn't have the best manufacturing had all of these harmful substances in it and we're also brands from when I was like 9 years old I don't want to list names but they're still like having all the Shelf space in stores and I was just like this is wild like this is boring this is lame the the the we need something new we need something that's better uh males have vitamin uh deficiencies like crazy especially with magnesium Jasper just can't get enough of it uh especially with magnesium um and biotin is in the body wash uh vitamin E one two of the best vitamins for your skin and hair um but as The Story Goes long story short we we come up with this brand that represents so many things um but I think winning in everyday life whether you're the valedictorian whether you are the high school jock whether you're philanthropist now you have a product that you can embody and wear every single day that's increasing your vitamin intake that is less harmful to you that's where the idea came from and just being the winning formula in category uh went to Walmart pitched them the whole idea they [ __ ] loved it helped us build the brand even and come up with the scent profiles and all the things that are the the most popular um and this has been something I've wanted to do for so long we had to bring in the best people to be a part of it the winners in their category and that's number one Numero Uno sha Ali here um and he instantly saw the vision and already in the past couple of days it's been like super fun filming all the content behind yeah I was pumped when you [ __ ] called me appreciate you thinking of me and uh excited to help grow this business [ __ ] it's needed it's needed we're going to take over the whole bathroom you know tooed if you [ __ ] with the dogs and cows and chickens dog in you I know what I got that dog in me and I use it so be dog free baby am I missing anything with that no I think that was great the one the one thing I would touch on and you did in a way but it's it is body wash it is body spray it is deodorant but it also is there's an ethos that stands behind this brand which is the ethos that you stand for and it's the ethos that you stand for and the ethos that you stand for and the one that I stand for if I say ethos again I'm GNA start stumbling over my words but it's it's it's like you said it it doesn't the winners in life aren't just you you're on a big stage in life you're you're you're crushing it in every aspect financially you're a star you're leading your sport that's awesome on every [ __ ] level it's it's an encouragement to to young men all around the world to [ __ ] get up off their ass and get sh it don't matter if you score high on a test you whatever the [ __ ] it is that you do well maybe not so it matters what the [ __ ] you do but it also doesn't matter what the [ __ ] you do anybody is a winner as long as you put in the work and you have the will to win and I love it I I would say that's wrong I would say that not anybody is a winner and I think that's something that the brand also stands for like you really got to win you got to as you have the will to win no I'm just saying I think that's an important point cuz we live in a world today where a lot of people think everybody can be a winner that's not true if you Los you might be a loser and if you're a loser the good news is there's a hidden l in the logo actually we'll trace it for you with our graphic design team there's a hidden l in the logo because and I I I wanted to make sure that was was a thing because the biggest loss of my life turned out to be the biggest W in my life and I always had the saying like two L's make a w and when I lost to Tommy Fury it was embarrassing all these things but I realized I wasn't focused I wasn't as locked in as I could be the team around me from a boxing standpoint wasn't good I was having personal issues with relationships and all of these things that I had to shed and grow from and I grew into this new and completely different person but I wouldn't have done that if I didn't lose on the biggest stage possible and I think that was part of the ethos ethos ethos ethos of the brand was to encourage people that in their lowest moments to turn those into into their biggest W's eventually when Jake just said that the biggest loss of his life ended up being the biggest W of his life you said same yeah yeah same what what was that story for supposedly lost for lost to Cheeto back in 2020 August it it was I mean it sucked at the time but I it didn't suck too bad because I was like okay I didn't lose because I you know and it was different I wasn't I mean I was focused everything went good training camp everything was good but I was like that sucks I'm goingon to get that back someday when the time is right and then my last fight two two months ago in Miami headline I'm the champ defending my belt against that same guy how rewarding was that three and a half years later August three and a half years later boom beat his ass as a fan of yours it made it so sweet because of all the doubters that constantly like put you down and didn't believe in you and said he was going to destroy you and then you he literally like you embarrass him that was a performance of a life you embarrassed the [ __ ] out of him and I think that's literally a prime example of turning l l into into a w and I really that's what that's where the hidden l in the brand in the logo is um and representing that every single day when you see these products in your bathroom and when we say we have a saying it's not just a product it's a lifestyle absolutely trademarked Incorporated All Rights Reserved 2024 brother uh but but yeah man it's it's an honor to have you a part of this and uh we we really made what we think are the best products on the market from the body wash being exfoliating vitamin infused to the body spray what we found out is a lot of these fragrances like you get like these high-end designer brands that have like $500 colognes turns out it only cost them a dollar to make that and they're literally making like $499 on top of that so we had a fine fragrance house is what these places are called and we got the super expensive scents and gave it to people to what they're worth like we're not trying to these products are super super affordable and I think it's so funny because that's the world we live in where like you just label something and get like a European girl to go this is one of the lower priced men's care products on the market yeah if I'm not mistaken and it's it's the $500 fragrance in the affordable bottle because we want everyone we've been using a body wash in the past two days since we got the samples after the shoot and I personally want to say I got the in there you could bleep it out whatever you want to do W's winning n b genuinely that's that's the saying is the it's winning formula cuz it really is like it really is if if we're going to call our company [ __ ] W it has to be the best we the winners winning product indeed indeed winning customers all that type of [ __ ] indeed better Derek today he's just got a punch I'm not Li I talked to him before he left he wants to punch you up bro he's got a punchable face I like him though it's weird it's like God I like that guy but I want [ __ ] KO pick him up and like it's okay boom one more to the liing me earlier and I'm just letting you know don't shoot the messenger on God he said he wants to get in the ring with you I can call him really he oh yeah he he you want to call him yeah where is he at is wait uh no call no call he's coming up oh um he's talking smack he said he actually wants a spar I swear to God he said he wants to get percentage should I go you guys I literally out let that's crazy timeing saying talk [ __ ] to my face if you're going to talk [ __ ] that's crazy timing what were you saying they were telling me you want to get in the ring and Spar bit or they didn't say Spar they said fight yeah I'm down to do either but uh yeah no I'm just sick of the [ __ ] [ __ ] you've been saying on your podcast uh you called me you made fun of my weight and you called me gay I did not no I well okay okay you said that he wouldn't ever say that what you got to say what your chest that's what I just [ __ ] said bro I he was like oh if I if stand on it you talking to him you talking to him you ain't talking to me my assistant Sono would would piece you he's never boxed a day he never I'm here to fight your video I'm here to fight you what did I what was the first thing I said to you when when I saw you what was the first thing I said to you that we could fight no I said you look thick wait but when we were talking earlier weren't you saying he's a [ __ ] and you wanted to get a ring with him and all type [ __ ] what I'm saying right now say it then I just said the [ __ ] ring so we can after this we have a ring 2 feet away and he's a [ __ ] and whatever else you was saying to me yeah he's [ __ ] what about my hair say something about my hair I I already said that at the W shoot that you look like you haven't showered in [ __ ] a week okay all right d hey buddy hey hey what's your long-term play not no but see you guys you guys are making me seem crazy you're out of your mind he Derek Dereck go warm up hit the hit the heavy back H the warm up is almost listen legendary as send location dble PIV go warm up hey hey double pivot sit sit I'm not [ __ ] no I I'll sit and talk but I'm not [ __ ] no sit on the floor walk you want to take my seat hey how much how much of what's going on ch ch how much of what's going on is is a character versus like actual delusion how much is a character yeah decent uh I would say there are times where I know what I have to do for my boxing career to like like we all why is he laughing cuz you said career I beat your [ __ ] boy your [ __ ] [ __ ] bro you know what I I recall you did beat I recall calling steiny saying what the [ __ ] was that buddy I love steiny but I do remember watching that and thinking I wasn't proud of that I was not proud of that from steiny and I wish I wish he would come to the gym I wish he'd get in there I wish he'd train a little bit and I wish he would have a rematch but that's on him I've been trying to get the rematch but he's been ding me do you think Derek won he said I won I thought I thought he won I'd have to rewatch but I do think I come on baby the comments have [ __ ] dragged me for months after that [ __ ] 99% of the comments say I lost so please say it one more time Sean no I said it what I said it's like therapy or something no but to answer your question uh we all know uh uh as Fighters there's a side of promotion stop [ __ ] first of all Gus shut the [ __ ] up our our audio guys uh like can't stop laughing is that the facial his facial hair or is what he's saying bro that's bold of you to talk facial hair bro that's bold of you to I'm not Li you look dirty you look like Jeffrey done training right Jesus I train every day but anyway we know like there's two sides of of promotion as well as the actual athletic competition that is Combat Sports so there are times where I might play up a little bit like hey promoting but let him go let him go all right if you if all if you think I'm all promoting that I'll see you in the [ __ ] ring and I'll knock both you either of you out well um well Jake's a [ __ ] fat [ __ ] right now he weighs like 240 so I got I goty I gotta pick my words wisely like he's Jake's 240 I I know I know but like I'm not going to sit here and pick a fight against somebody that's 240 when I'm se's my weight class when I stopped you in one round like just like but when I was getting started out of come this is where I'm at since then I told him he could have somebody tag team I'm down I'm down to fight anybody in this [ __ ] room not one person in this room I'm the best part about this is like uh right after this we I think you're you're down to do like one round or three minutes right I mean I'd prefer 12 but we okay yeah 12 I mean that my biggest advantage in the ring ring is my cardio I do 12 12 okay so no I have a genuine question so five round I'm not I'm not one have I ever said I'm a UFC fighter no I'm just say we can box I'm just saying that's I'm used to five you want to do three we could do that aren't you trying to be a boxer with your [ __ ] Ryan Garcia call he would knock knock your [ __ ] ass out so quickly it wouldn't be close I'm one and0 pro boxing what are you actually I saw that video I saw video I'm also want to know thank you officially hey they count that's real commiss but uh I didn't mean I didn't mean to take I didn't mean to take over the pot I just wanted to a couple you definitely didn't yeah okay I try I'm trying to help you no we love you go warm up yeah yeah go warm up the bags don't warm up too much though don't get tired how much do you wa right now without Timberlands and jean shorts on high 120 low 13 no without lying though okay that [ __ ] is you think you got you got him one round I think I could beat him I think I can beat him I I think I could handicap myself to three just put on one glove I could do that what do you think actually happens now when you go downstairs and he gets in that ring like what's his plan that's what I don't get about him but that's why it's that's do me a favor that's why he's Cloud it up because love [ __ ] up [ __ ] he's going he's going to try to Yap he's going to try to talk please just go 100% yeah no actually actually please go 100% if he signs a consent form we'll have him no we've already got like multiple consent forms for better media with like death wavers [ __ ] no no no but he needs it he needs that I'll go like 40 no go like 75 Sean I'm I'm going to be honest bro don't even go 20% he's the nice [ __ ] bro don't do that bro you want him to go 100% no no to be honest but just like work with him and then just like maybe just just like a really good punching and then he'll give up 75% uh I'm nervous man I'm shaking for Derek yeah yeah that's good I understand that there a couple flinches if you Flinch hard enough the the wind coming off you will put him down let him walk you down and bait him boom sleeping what's your next upcoming fight a maraba jaaba and when is that uh not nothing yet I'm hoping for September maybe October maybe November maybe December I'm F ready to go baby what if it was next month I wouldn't be ready to go I like I like 10 to 12 weeks 10 to 12 he likes eight I mean I I normally do like 10 yeah just like but I've been super the first few weeks are [ __ ] pre-amps this Camp I'm channeling my Ryan Garcia would you ever do a Ryan Garcia regiment during Camp drink and smoke every night you do a little I I probably yeah I'm not actually doing that for the people out there he's locked in clocked in locked in locked in ready to go yeah May 20th we start but by the time the people see this it'll be uh June or something like that that is crazy you're fighting Mike that you fought Ben asran wrestler good good [ __ ] UFC was really good UF bit Tyron Woodley twice Anderson Silva knockout of the year with Nate Robinson can't forget about deji deji the the the goat do we say Gibb or is that like that's just crazy resume like literally [ __ ] C by way thank you Gib cuz we had a really good party after he knocked you the [ __ ] out who W we're skipping two professional boxers this always no no the recent ones this always happens I'm trying to just think cuz two cuz this is what everybody asked for this is what everybody asked for who who are the two professional boxers you fighted you got to name them Andre August and Ryan Borland go okay people don't people are like fight a pro boxer and then I do and then they're like that was boring as a man of combat he what were 10 and one nine and one nine and one what is your take on his [ __ ] all of his fights and who he's fighting in the competition dude I've been excited as [ __ ] since I started I remember you I remember the first time I watched was the Nate Robinson I watched that one at home and then uh I don't remember what it was after that but I remember watching Ben Asam in Atlanta I think that was the first time we actually met was right after the fight I think we hugged I was like y I picked you up you carried me back to the locker room that it was love at first sight that was crazy actually yeah actually I [ __ ] with him we became best friends like a couple days later you going to leave me hanging no no I would it's my eyebrow but uh yeah no I think he's obviously super skilled I think it's and I I it's inspired me even in the position I'm at UFC World Champ sexy you know what I mean like tall dark handsome TR inspired me just business the business uh side of things that you've done I've always thought putting on massive fight that's why I'm such a huge Conor fan cuz the pay-per-views he's done is so [ __ ] he's been fighting for four years and [ __ ] that he's been doing the massive fights the fights I get excited for there's a few UFC fights the high the big big fights that I get excited for but every time you fought even when uh Logan fought Floyd I was [ __ ] like excited like all fight week so i' I've been inspired from what you've done from a business side from the boxing side they even just start so not late but for a boxer but these boxers start when they're [ __ ] three four years old like Ryan and tank like they're young buck the Tik Tac I sent you of Devon Haney's debut fight yeah it's wild he was fighting a five foot Mexican in a in a bar was it Dante bro if I show you this [ __ ] oh no I did see that I did see that I did see that when you started even seeing that first video fighting Anderson Silva six fights in bro like do you know how insane that is he's one of the greatest correct me if I'm wrong UFC Strikers in history yeah 100% so does that make me one of the greatest UFC Strikers and one of the greatest wrestlers cuz wood but Ben ask was but Nate Diaz is ducking me in MMA oh am crazy I am weak that's a sick fight MMA I I wish it was that would happened right after the boxing same he's actually ducking it which is why it's crazy because he's not he's not in UFC no but we we upped it to 15 million damn that's crazy though that would be a I like Nate Diaz but that would be such a fun buildup he actually doesn't want to do it all Sean how do you genuinely Jake's not here it's me and you in a room actually how do you see that fight going for Jake what MMA him you're not here J for Nate in MMA keep it a bean God it's it's so hard to you're a big [ __ ] right now on what weight would it be5 185 I don't hate I don't I it's not a it's a winable fight for you I really do think that but Nate is so [ __ ] you would have to do what I did against aljo and morab do not let that [ __ ] grab you not that you can't wrestle cuz I know you can wrestle but once he starts grabbing you and doing Jiu-Jitsu if he gets on top his little he likes his little trips it would be hard for you to win I feel like if he if he started grappling just pure Jiu-Jitsu if it let's be real if it goes to the floor is he [ __ ] if he's on his back Nate's not like a super strong guy so if you learn how to like I mean I'm sure you know how to get up to a single legegg stuff like that but then you start getting your neck grabbed I don't know how much Jiu-Jitsu you know I mean Nate's a [ __ ] high Lev black belt um if you could keep it standing 100% there's winnable ways there if he if he went to the ground feel like he might be able to grab your neck no that that's exactly how I feel about it if I don't get guillotined yeah then I win the fight because even if he was on top take your back but even if he was on top of me I would just throw him off of me cuz he's also the weakest puncher I've ever fought like when he was hitting me I was I almost like started laughing I'm I'm not even saying this to talk [ __ ] out of everyone I've sparred in my whole entire life and everyone I fought his punches are even me we I don't think you ever landed a punch on me is that true well that's not true so I don't anyone no I'm literally not even talking [ __ ] which is why I think it's funny that he dropped Connor and [ __ ] cuz it's just like how Conor with like to the ground yeah like with a straight left hand yeah which is crazy like I I'm not just talking [ __ ] when I say that and I've told you I've literally told you this you told me this after the fight yeah I was like he is the weakest puncher I've ever fought in my life who's who's the weakest puncher you've ever you've ever come to face um there I mean there's been so many fights where I later didn't even get hit um uh does that like make you jaded at all when you get into a fight and you don't really get love that [ __ ] I prefer not to get hit at all but like if I was you and I wasn't get hit at all I'd probably work less no no no no I I know I don't get hit because I work that hard so if I didn't work hard I know I'd probably get hit I'm just a lazy [ __ ] so so here you are on top of the world we're launching [ __ ] W going to be a billion dollar business [ __ ] you I always forget uh UFC champ accomplishing all your goals what do you want next uh what are what is the threeyear fiveyear for Sean I I truly do want to get a boxing fight I'm not I'm not super set on that to where like I'm like going to be [ __ ] if it doesn't happen I do think it'll be interesting especially if I go out there knock morab out Ryan does his thing I think there's a [ __ ] sweet fight there if it doesn't happen not that worried about it want to go out there beat morab I'd like to you know if Max Max and Elia fight I would like to fight go move up to 45 fight the winner of that um you know maybe have three to five maybe have a few more kids definitely want another little baby I love kids my fite pump him out shout out to Danny who's your top pick in a boxing fight though if you if you could choose your Ryan now was like the I mean what he after dvon Beat Ryan I was like javante then Ryan goes out there does his thing really though I think Dante do you is that is that not a big [ __ ] leap Ryan like you said before he's been doing this his whole life one thing that's been proven is that the crossover it's it's not a good return Fury he did his thing okay the excep is the exception we've seen it with okay but then Anthony Joshua put his ass t was crazy super night night he was I'm I'm here for big fights like I wanted to get into the UFC and I wanted to make big fights watching Conor versus Floyd I'm like that [ __ ] happened really happened hey you versus Derek that could be as big as Connor in Floyd but no but I I think the craziest [ __ ] about Conor versus Floyd is that overall it was a W for everyone involved so there's certain fights where it just like doesn't matter what happens that's the world we live in yeah I mean UFC told me they said if the if the fight's big enough and it'll make the UFC money they'll do it what means more to you your your your record being pre or the amount of money you're making all right let me ask you something it's about to get real J's drunk Jasper's drunk as [ __ ] y record or money [ __ ] it depends the Gap like like the gap of money if it's like an extra 10 15 20 million but I lose a couple important fights probably not you just take like 150 million I'll be like like [ __ ] my record baby yeah it depends on the gap of money Jake Paul is not here right now just like a Mayweather Conor McGregor you taking that fight ver Jake yeah no he's my buddy I could I mean I don't I don't even no I no funny no there's you know what's funny is always in my Snapchat story once once a day pretty much someone says we knock out Jake Paul like there's every sing all the time for so long people just want to see me get [ __ ] is good though that's like the thing yeah but I'm sensitive it is funny though people [ __ ] love to hate confidence the craziest thing though actually about both of you like I met you very recently like I didn't realize you're as like normal as you are I don't know why I thought you violent like you guys are both like very goofy mellow and stupid and c and and awesome it's like the greatest thing ever like I couldn't believe when I met you you're like one of us like yeah I wouldn't think you're a [ __ ] yeah one of the coolest people in the world for sure yeah but not a lot of people uh can like I don't know we have like a weird it's hard toes Meat Heads I'm like this the this my dog I think it's a little bit of dark humor too it's like some [ __ ] up [ __ ] that we say off camera [ __ ] sometimes but I think it's like there's a certain yeah like that's how my whole group is back home it's like we all just we're all just kind of [ __ ] dumb I'm smart but like they're dumb well someone commented like yo Jake Paul's the dumbest genius in the world and I was just like I say that [ __ ] all the time you wed up the other day and I was like this is the most genius dumbass in the world no jokes Hey Brother chill buddy trying to get me cancelled no what how old are you 23 are you really yeah no you're not he's not is he what do you think think what did you think Oh no you're 267 27 what did you think he was I thought he was older I thought he was like 27 26 yeah a niggaer mature was that ladies you got a boo you got a girl you just be slanging she timeout right now I don't really talk about she don't time out it's a little tricky she not taking care of herself what do you guys think about Tom Brady R you watch it yeah they kept comp panning to you every 5 Seconds bro I swear there's a huge camer sitting there the whole time but it's cool to see Netflix going hard like that cuz they went hard they swing that meat around huha yeah let's pivot yeah just sorry about him I'm drunk man not yeah but but it was it was great it wasar they should have got rid of most of the football players going up there yeah there's a couple ones Ben afflac is that who that was on there that was wild that was so weird that was so weird it was cool to see how [ __ ] less sensitive people are becoming I feel like feel like it's recently like there's a big push back I think people got sick of it we went super super super PC for a long time people were like wait a second we like being able to say what we want to say I saw kill Tony say oh type of crazy [ __ ] on there that watch every [ __ ] Monday you were on kill Tony yeah how old are you actually buddy I'm a comedian Budd full time no yeah I was on that I was nervous as hell though I was like just being it's a live I do podcast once a week like me and Tim do our podcast every [ __ ] week but to be there in front of an audience live it's weird it's a different kind of well so you say Tim but let's let's talk about actually the fact that you get trained by by one of the greatest boxers of all time it's really that's something what's happened like that's crazy working with Canelo as your as your coach that's what I'm saying people don't going to be Ryan but like yeah that is true I never even thought about that for did you even know that this guy proba even know that that orange [ __ ] is nice wait will I get cancelled by the ginger community no you're black oh no my dad my dad's Ginger and I'm I'm like this [ __ ] is ginger bro he be shaving he be shaving his beard and I zoom in zoom in it's it's slightly orange so I'm a quarter ginger on South Park they made fun of Gingers and that [ __ ] made the news I [ __ ] with the ginger people but like y'all [ __ ] you like redhead girls oh yeah was Super Soaker but anyway yeah like y'all [ __ ] is orange and that's okay but back to you one of y'all that's not drunk I got a question cuz this guy clipped out a lot did Tim actually like you guys about him like saying to fight that was yeah that was real Tim always be talking [ __ ] to the like he's been doing that for so long so what happened he just talk I mean he just he Alo the knee's coming Alo you got to shoot Alo watch out for this like he's been saying that since I've been in the UFC like my debut vers terion where he was talking [ __ ] to terion too and uh he just does it every fight but this happened to just be crazy timing to like Tim you got Tim like alre you got to go and like literally he he like that's when he threw that left hand or whatever stepped into Southpaw and uh or stepped into Orthodox and got dropped it was it was funny the timing because he's like Al you got to go I don't I truly don't think that's why that's not why Alo went I bet you could I bet Alo didn't even hear that but Tim's always chirping and stuff but people on the internet are [ __ ] mad about that a lot of them actually like it I'll say majority of people are thinking that's the funniest [ __ ] ever there's a couple [ __ ] that are like you should be banned think it's a fight would you run the alra fight back or one and done never I like that why would I yeah am I supposed to top that you know what I'm saying I got love for Alo we had him on the show and he he seems like a good dude I actually don't mind Alo I does that ever happen where like you'll have a personal relationship with someone personal runin with them and it's all great but then now all of a sudden you have to fight each other I've never had I've not of running with someone that's been like uh more than like I've ran into aljo morab at the UFC I'm like hey what's up talk to him a little bit you know nothing no ill will um but I haven't had like a run with someone I actually lik them mhm and then at the fight them so you're not friends with any any other UFC fighters oh I have a there's there's a couple guys in my in my weight class that I train with at the lab that are like climbing the r uh ladders what happened with uh the 125 pounder I I don't even know his name and I'm not I'm just not like yeah what's his name I Alexander pania bro this story is actually kind of funny so 2016 I think it was it was like 3 and0 4 and0 and I was still fighting at like I fought at 125 not too long before that I fought at like 130 which is in a weight class was like so I wasn't like a 155 like I am now I was probably like 14 back then and uh Henry cejudo comes in I'm three or four and0 at the point at this point it comes in with this kid Alexander PTO just won The Ultimate Fighter I think he's got his UFC debut or it's his second UFC fight he's a couple weeks out from his fight I'm [ __ ] the night before me and Tim ripping bongs like hanging out being goofballs and [ __ ] so the next morning so we brought him in for sparring hry sudo brings in Alexander you're 4-0 he's King [ __ ] he he's just won The Ultimate Fighter and so they write the names on on the board who who you're sparring I'm like oh [ __ ] I got Alexander Pantoja versus me for one round one round he has three rounds so you write one one name then usually you you spar with one guy then they go out you spar with a fresh guy they go out spar with the fresh guy that's usually how it works so my name was just up there for one round that's it we Spar one round I didn't know anything about him cuz I I didn't really watch it like that 25 I don't really watch 25ers like that but somebody's like oh [ __ ] that's he a black belt he just won The Ultimate Fighter I was like oh [ __ ] I got to [ __ ] Focus up here first round boom Dro him with a liver kick and I wasn't going to post I record all my rounds I have so many sparring rounds like I wasn't going to post it was and for some reason I don't know why he would talk [ __ ] and bring it up cuz I literally I don't know you know know I don't know if you know how it works but you finish a guy the fight's over right no no did he um so I finished him the first round he hit him boom with the liver I posted the video yesterday and I've had it for a long time I didn't want to post it CU you don't post sparring like that but he just kept bringing it up so boom finished him first round um then uh after the first round round I go to walk out and Henry's over there crying box of Kleenex just like [ __ ] wiping his tears crying we want you for a second round so mad that this little like I was nobody just finished his dude he's in the UFC he's supposed to be the man finish him in the first round so Henry's crying saying he wants another round um so I piece him up again in the second round and I'm I'm dying at this point my lungs are burning I'm not in shape for fight I I'm nowhere near in Camp for a fight and I my lungs are hurting and uh Henry again crying blowing his nose and like I want you for a third and Benson comes in Benson Henderson absolute Legend comes in and was yelling cuz that's his it was the his gym the MMA lab we don't let people come in our gym and make us tired and blah blah blah and I'm [ __ ] just just huffing and puffing I just got done work in this dude for 10 minutes finished him in the first round did I say that liver kick um we'll put the footage I have the foot yeah it's right there insert the footage so third round come out boom piece him up again and he's so I don't know why he keeps bringing up this bringing this up in the media I think it's because people ask him but I don't know why he doesn't just say yeah yeah no no I don't want to talk about it he keeps saying like he's like oh I got in I found his range and [ __ ] I'm like bro you you stopped him in one round stopped him in round one and let him live and continue to fight for round two these delusional uh like wild people are weirdos but the reason I posted cuz he kept bringing it up exactly wait so is he the champ now at 125 yeah okay but why does he still want to talk [ __ ] to you if you got [ __ ] up that's what I'm saying I don't know either either you drop to 125 and get that no I can't drop to 125 that's too much now you're a thick [ __ ] I am a thick but yeah I SP I think it's important for up and cominging Spar uh fighters to record their rounds and watch their rounds not for that this reason you know but just to I've improve so much watching my sparring y I have thousands of rounds maybe not thousands hundreds of rounds from 10 years ago on my on my computer of uh it's like NFL team is watching footage the time [ __ ] 100% got to watch that [ __ ] that's I I have every single round recorded and and again I I don't post sparring either exactly you know put in a highlight video make a vlog boom we're sparring people but it's never like [ __ ] up your guy yeah exactly but Mike Perry honestly like what he's been doing is pretty Fu he went to Bare knuckle that [ __ ] just meant for him bare knuckle fighting it's crazy different going crazy he's doing good he's [ __ ] undefeated over there he's beating some really good guys stay over here [ __ ] [ __ ] only place that you should be getting tickets from is game time.co it's it's the only place I go it is the only place you can possibly go they have 110% price match guarantee that's what we use to get our tickets for the NBA Finals you can get $20 off your first order go to gametime.co JJ a $20 off your first order they're doing a deal specifically for y'all and you could see where your tickets are before you buy them seeing the seats they have all of the these great policies last 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platform there is Mike Paul versus Jake Tyson here's my official prediction tell us and even if even if it's against me like it's not it's not I do think you're going to beat Mike Tyson uh it's crazy that I even saying that out loud right now cuz you're fighting Mike Tyson it's [ __ ] crazy even just when we were walking down the the street today people all genders all ages knew you were fighting Mike Tyson it's such a massive fights live on Netflix which is [ __ ] crazy it's in a stadium which is [ __ ] crazy it is crazy I believe in you I see what you I see what you're doing I see you know that you believe in yourself Mike Tyson is uh hasn't fought in however long it's been so for him to just come up and get a fight be I I'm sure is going to be in as good a shape as he possibly could be in but it's just you know it's it's it's it's not his time right now I love Mike Tyson I never actually met him but I love Mike Tyson I do think Jake's gonna get the job done and I do think eight rounds eight two-minute rounds eight two-minute rounds I believe I believe you could put them away in the later rounds you know five six seven eight I do think you could put it put him down which is crazy to even [ __ ] think you rap yeah that's fire I'm just lazy and inconsistent that's not a w no that sh it is not you start using Brandon yell at him every day but cuz you can actually spit that's fire no but but people know him now from like podcasting they don't know he's a rapper and hurts his soul J sick name Lil jizz what J JZ that's good that's good you should switch your [ __ ] I switch my [ __ ] from come Master to kill Jas bro honestly though that's I think singing rapping spitting is one of the things that if I could switch talents be doing something like that that's good or twerking I ain't going to lie you shook that [ __ ] earlier I got a I got a thing on me you that [ __ ] wiggle a little bit let's let's pivot though cuz yep hit a pivot uh yeah do we have a speaker should we play Jasper's new song or something you got a new one I thought you were lazy some new [ __ ] go ahead play on your phone just put it in the speaker put it in the mic too this the [ __ ] I'm dropping when I'm Indie that sound decent I'm not rapping either I'm yapping that's not going to get you drunk yo I made this beat that's crazy I like the way you look I won't lie you got something I need you my with a fly girl like you doing with no guy a little sh don't really go outside I'm not crazy right place and right time you all smiles and pretty light brown [Music] [Music] like that better if I forget you but I just can't time saying do better and I'm sure you can find that guy that's worth all right cut it cut it cut it that's that's enough that's enough that's enough that's enough for real can't give the whole thing it's not out yet yeah hey good [ __ ] that's fire I'll be rapping though but that's some pop [ __ ] just cuz I can do it so why are you consistent cuz I'm lazy and jaded and and spoiled yeah it's unfortunate maam shout out to the homies for a lot of talented people out there that just are yeah don't smoke crack yo also there there is a parallel there don't do don't do that there's a parallel with the same thing he's talking about I think Fighters probably where it's like you could have all the talent in the world he's got that's why I get so [ __ ] mad at him it's cuz he has all the talent in the world really I get more pissed off than he gets and he could be a superstar but he just is lazy he doesn't put the work in he's not he's not strategic and it is hard when you got when you live in a crib in Puerto Rico right you got chefs and [ __ ] and you fly private with me yeah that's it that's it bro that's it you got to you got get paychecks and [ __ ] y'all got to evict me that's not a bad idea honestly I think we talked about it let's make I was I'm H we had a conversation but I just can't I can't because I love you so much I need you but then I'll probably be more like need you y yeah I guarante and then we you would still have to like fly in once a week to to do the pods and it would be resentment and then I I'll go out like and I'll try to start shooting at y'all oh my God I guarantee I would be in the position I'm in if I if I had money and like had already made it like financially had [ __ ] I wouldn't have made it that's why people think I'm crazy but CC the other side of it is like boom right so I'm from com California same hey shout out my [ __ ] yeah man I was homeless for the first half of my life mom's a drug addict dad's a gang member I've never had anything in my life right and my whole life has been music I dropped out in ninth grade I was like I'm going to make music my dad kicks me out he's like you can't live under this roof like be more like your brothers my brothers are [ __ ] star students one got a full ride scholarship loser all all type of [ __ ] nerd ass [ __ ] all those [ __ ] are fat and unemploy now one dropped out of school a full rise scholarship and is just sitting at home right so boom from having nothing to like me saying I'm going to risk everything that I have in my life to become a music artist and it works I get to a certain place and I'm like damn I did exactly I hit a ceiling right so it's like now I had to recalibrate he got a big record deal and then and then like use I crashed out and became a m addict for four four days a week for 30 like 90 days oh it's not bad but then I moved cuz my homeboy was like you need to move and I was like nah [ __ ] that I made a million I ain't going to move I'm going to maintain this lifestyle I'm a junkie but I'm rich yep I crashed out and was like yeah I need to move lost 60 lbs went to Puerto Rico locked in recalibrated and now I'm ready to be but that's that's here's the problem we run into now is that you've recalibrated and now it's still it's been 6 months the album's supposed to be 6 months ago and we're still waiting for the album that's the problem and that's what you got to work on never too late though let's start it let's get because you're vitamin deficient right yeah yeah cuz like a lot of people can't think straight when they're vitamin deficient and all that a week ago kind of elaborated on that so yeah this isn't therapy um I got shout out Suzie right right huh Susie but she's hot is she not you think my therapist you guys got the same one I could pee and vape on this podcast I got to go pee go pee I could pee yeah I mean I think we I think we end the episode because uh let's wrap it up you can get W available at Walmart anyway if you walk into Walmart whether you with your mom your daddy you by yourself you go in that [ __ ] men body care aisle you buy that and comment down below what you thought of the episode for um us being brain fried over and uh jper but Buzz also comment cuz this coming out when the product releases comment your favorite scent and sent $10,000 right no I'm send you 1,000 I ain't got 10,000 for you but I'll send you 1,000 I'll send someone 10,000 he'll send you 10,000 I'll send you a th000 and I'm going through the comments for sure anyway good luck Charlie and if you got a test soon good luck on that [ __ ] that's what we [Music] do what are those 8 O gloves I want you to know they were talking up there he ain't going easy so be ready all right legit be ready buddy I'm using these bags don't show Too Much don't show we're boxing we're boxing I don't I do that on accident sometimes just know that that might come up just keep your hands up I'm just saying I might throw that up I haven't knocked someone out in a while just cuz my last fight didn't go off it went off five rounds I've been like craving just putting someone's lights out lately it's weird versus your boy better Derek I I hope Sean isn't nice and just [ __ ] him up that's your that's your trainee [ __ ] D all righty folks welcome to your main event of the evening starting out first in the loser corner you have better day with a record of no wins no losses I beat ste's [ __ ] out no anything he is 5'7 120 lbs lost in the mile to better JoJo but he's still delusional in his fighting career and to my left in the winning Corner sponsored by W sugar sha Ali The Undefeated UFC champion of the world it's time to fight bring it to the center we already spoke about the rules in the locker room beforehand give me your glove give me your hand touch gloves I want a clean fair fight no no hits below the waist back to your Corners time you ready judge you ready and fight [Music] [Applause] I'm out of balance or something oh do Dodge that [ __ ] hold on hold on hold on hold [ __ ] come on come on just oh my God one back of the head no no no back of the head four ref didn't see it five six me in the eyes Walk This Way Walk This Way for me he's running Walk This Way for me my car run all right and we're in in that right that's called all right time time time one two that was a that was a slip four up six bro Rizo what the [ __ ] are you doing all right get up SLP all right come on time in come on got come on got you [ __ ] black I'm going to I need to work I need to see some work black UT D somebody said 10 seconds like 8 seconds ago all right great back to your corner back to your corner back to your corner stay in there you're doing good right now this feel good I feel good do you see that one I landed clean on his face I think we all terrible shut the [ __ ] up for once in your [ __ ] life shut the [ __ ] up Sean's doing half punches on him shut up I'll act like uh no don't act like bro I'm just I'm putting in work all right how this how you when you [ __ ] beat the old wash UFC fighters everybody comments you're fighting old was UFC fighters what do you think 10s I think they're right in in round two round two round two oh got him [ __ ] oh [Music] [ __ ] hey put that hey that that's a that's going to be a 10 count can't get me by the that's going to be a 10 count that's going to be a 10 count next time back in the just there going to be a 10 count next time get in there give me real quick get him with some you thank you perfect okay BL I'm going to need to see some more one two back to your corner white Corner neutral Corner 5 6 seven eight n look at me thank you bro come on you want to fight do you want to fight when I do you want to fight yes yeah wait wait time back in wake up time time time time time I promise okay it's to the floor the rules of transfer to MMA tap tap tap he's St he's T he's ta all right I block out all right you're good to go wait wait the fight was over get the [ __ ] out of the ring oh it's over it's over it's over it's over go you got it's over it's over it's over [Music]	do me a favor that's why he's Cloud it up because love [ __ ] up [ __ ] he's going he's going to try to Yap he's going to try to talk please just go 100% yeah no actually actually please go 100% if he signs a consent form we'll have him no we've already got like multiple consent forms for better media with like death wavers [ __ ] no no no but he needs it he needs that I'll go like 40 no go like 75 Sean I'm I'm going to be honest bro don't even go 20% he's the nice [ __ ] bro don't do that bro you want him to go 100% no no to be honest but just like work with him and then just like maybe just just like a really good punching and then he'll give up 75% uh I'm nervous man I'm shaking for Derek yeah yeah that's good I understand that there a couple flinches if you Flinch hard enough the the wind coming off you will put him down let him walk you down and bait him boom sleeping what's your next upcoming fight a maraba jaaba and when is that uh not nothing yet I'm hoping for September maybe October maybe November maybe December I'm F ready to go baby what if it was next month I wouldn't be ready to go I like I like 10 to 12 weeks 10 to 12 he likes eight I	2	8	6	do me a favor that's why he's Cloud it up because love [ __ ] up [ __ ] he's going 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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXPZ1KzdpsY	4,103	mXPZ1KzdpsY	2024-06-20 00:00:00	well well well ladies and gentlemen do we have a special episode for you today none other than sugar Shan om Ali the current UFC bantamweight champion a legend in his own right this episode was off the cusp we were a little turned up Jasper was really really drunk so we weren't really prepared for this at all the conversations definitely got wild and obviously as you guys have seen over maybe the past week or so we launched a new company called w am men's carine in Walmart this company is so near and dear to my heart and I partnered with Shawn to bring this Vision to life amongst other celebrities artists and athletes that we are announcing over the next couple of weeks here get your w at Walmart it is very very very very very good stuff and yes you heard the news I am fighting Mike Perry on July 20th it is going down I'm still fighting Mike Tyson November 15th that is happening but I'm staying active knocking out Mike Perry on July 20th and I'm excited for y'all to listen to this episode and he the vision of w how it all came together and how Shawn got involved and then everything to do with Shawn's career this podcast has been a long time coming but prepare yourself for some idiocracy per usual uh this is [ __ ] with Jake Paul we have a secret handshake check it out AC let me get that stop playing mean yeah we created that because we actually have so many things to get into here this has been a long time coming Jasper did bring up something and the reason W was created was because the other products in the category had harmful dyes parabens sulfates hormone disruptors and so we wanted to create the better for you vitamin infused product and and Sean's a co-owner just signed today yesterday for the show but we we'll get into all of that we we've been you know bringing sea on for like we've been talking for like a month and a half yes sir yes sir um it is currently May we've been doing a lot of shoots this podcast will probably come out at post W launch you can get I'm so drunk I'm sorry y'all you can get it in uh Walmart every Walmart you in Paca Walmart get it in you in Pensacola it's in Walmart in Kentucky Walmart Walmart so basically uh we we brought in the greatest people in the world to help build W and Sean is one of those people but dialing everything back we will get into the company the body washes how this all came about but uh we've been wanting to do this podcast and thanks for joining us BR hey guys hey thanks for joining us right did you uh yeah I did you sh for an hour bro did you did you do do we know do we set the stage of the day and the fact that Jasper's slash right now okay cool y drunk is a [ __ ] y like double drunk yep yep yep you drunk yeah all that so um but just winding everything back uh I think we've been friends for a long time in fact you were the first guest on this show oh [ __ ] crazy Zoom crazy that's right that's right that's right the first ever episode you zoomed in and that's crazy we're thankful we're thankful for our friendship and it's pretty cool that now we're here again today uh getting less views than before and that's fire that's it congratulations less views we're not we're not it was it was a joke it was a joke if you watching this please like and comment cuz we falling off right now but man by the time this comes out you're going to be getting ready for me RAB how do you say his name I don't remember morab is iTab or or I don't know me that's got to be it me but you got to say it with the emphasis look meab mirab meab meab there you go there you go so yeah I should be getting ready hopefully I ain't got nothing scheduled hopefully uh you know Uncle Dana will call me say hey buddy you want to fight in in here and there and there and then I'm d b boom and that that's how that works what's up with everybody on your body though everybody talking [ __ ] even people youat I wanted to bring up yeah and he's like saying like he's trying to post about you even yesterday it is weird but when you concuss someone you know what I just say they don't think as well as they used to so I think he's still concussed and he's a little confused because he's talking [ __ ] still he not in his right mind because I can just throw up another post go because it's a throwback Thursday it's a throwback Friday do you think do you think people don't respect you enough cuz I I see that as your friend an unbiased like they just see social media and podcasts and the the hair and stuff like that and then they just sh week but I [ __ ] with you I appr that um I don't think it is well you can't you know I think it's fine I think you're jealous I ain't going to lie I got some inches under here let's smell that hair you can smell my [ __ ] must who I do think I feel a little bit disrespected as the champ but I think that last fight against Che kind of you know shut a little bit of people up canny go five rounds Cheeto beat me before the Alo fight um shut a lot of people up canny grapple didn't have to Grapple cuz he couldn't take me down yeah Alo couldn't take you down I think that was the biggest thing where they were like yo that's his weakness like yeah wrestle him down and then he just proved everyone wrong that's what's so interesting about this morab fight is he's supposedly well he is he's [ __ ] good at wrestling he's really really good at wrestling he's boring as [ __ ] and no one will there won't be one comment saying yeah right he's actually kind of fun not one person I'm com won I'm com you can I ask you something would you put yourself in your own top five Strikers in the UFC oh I'm yeah yo easily who's your Mount Rushmore strikker well I I mean I would unbiasedly I would put him as number one because adna is in like top three but he also like got beat by put that [ __ ] down boy he did uh bro I'm up there I'm up there Max is really good Max super his striking that's a good top five there that's four me Max Elia adaga uh I'm sure I'm missing some your with a one would it be that's that's a minus one Mount rmore is four yeah but I only got four but if you throw the five in it's a plus one isn't there only four yeah but but you ready to throw the five up I'm four all right that's my more but yeah once again uh this is a [ __ ] ass podcast so we apologize hey but something something you just touched on you talked about Fighters being fun and interesting how much and you're you're a superstar how much of you being a superstar how much of any fighter being a superstar comes down to them being fun and interesting as you are and how much of it comes down to their actual fighting good question uh well who's a super who who obviously Connor comes to mind I think he's he's a character he's fun he's interesting who else comes to mind is like a superstar I would say Izzy gives that off I think he's an interesting guy other than that there's not like a ton of fun like Ryan Garcia is doing a really good job right now of being [ __ ] interesting being a character uh I think that's fentel I think it's drugs as well I wouldn't deny that but he's still making people interested in Ryan versus Devon Haney was an interesting fight not because Devon Haney that dude's boring as [ __ ] you think he did them roids no I don't think Ryan did I think Devon needs to take that L he being a [ __ ] about I think the craziest [ __ ] you said to me and like I don't even know if we want to put this in there or bring it up but we we can always remove it but uh because of your your situation with the ostarine and you said to me like and it I like fully felt your energy you're like I swear on my daughter's life I never did that and you got popped for it yeah same thing happened uh to Ryan right now he popped for aost the low super low level a some [ __ ] like a trillionth of a gr the same thing happened to me uh so when that came out with Ryan like I truly truly didn't believe he took anything because it was the same [ __ ] and it happens to a lot of [ __ ] ostarine happens to how does that happen it's called the tainted supplement so if you're taking anything that has protein in it that's not third party tested uh could not just protein any kind of supplement that's not third party tested it's either NSF or there's a bunch of different third party tests but if you're not if you're taking something that doesn't have that there's chances there could be something in it but austram people pop for that all the time my case was not that big of a deal cuz I wasn't as huge of a star as I am now but it still was like a big deal because of my name the reason it's going so crazy right now is because Ryan G is a superstar so people are freaking out but it happens to a lot of athletes I just before we move past it I just on that Superstar topic how is that is that Superstar factor that that someone like you has someone like Ryan has someone like Connor has is it something you're born with or is it is it a practice is it something you can learn and do you sit back and like think like oh how can I go viral today how can I I think it's both I think you have to want to be a superstar there's some guys in the UFC like I want to make more money I want this I want that but they don't really want to be a superstar you you got to want it you got to you got to have some kind of vision a long time before well and and also like who you are as a person you have to have that like Fire Within still though like before you got into want famous I want to be in the NFL I want to be NBA I wanted to be a [ __ ] athlete when I was young was instilled I was just for whatever reason I wanted to make it when I was young I'm from H in Montana like small ass can I ask you something what's your opinion on like the take b nickel takes like where he's like super friendly and humble and like I think he's a sweet ass [ __ ] they love him but like bro that [ __ ] pisses me off I think that [ __ ] is cool too n like you're a hum like [ __ ] talk your [ __ ] you're what 670 like bro talk your [ __ ] like it it kind of bores me no I get yeah I mean that's that's some people's opinion is like he's too nice too humble too that but he's being himself um but he's also super young in the sport I think he and he's still pretty what is he 28 you're in a sport of War if I was playing like [ __ ] Cricket I would be like yeah like but that's that's the thing is for for for a character like him what it seems like is that's what he's in is the sport of war and that's it he's not in the sport of entertainment he's a nice ass sweetheart get there is some people that that understand both sides of things but I also have respect for and I see when someone's that's strictly in the sport of if I play chess with you I'm going to be like good game and I'm going to shake your hand I talk [ __ ] be F ass to a PO it I'm going to be like [ __ ] you you need to get better at whatever you're doing dial dialing it back a little bit um to the aost stream thing I think it's like what do you think about Conor tweeting still at like 3:00 a.m. like coked out he he he he sent shots at me and Ryan talking [ __ ] but it's it's crazy coming from Connor who literally got out of the usada pool to do steroid like legit steroids so it's kind of wild and I was the biggest Connor fan for a long time in the last couple weeks ever since he sent that wasn't even a couple weeks ago probably a week ago I've been trying to hate him I've been trying to be like [ __ ] you Connor but I can't I love Connor I it's like I am excited for his fight coming up I'm excited I want you know I'm all about it what's the fight is it Chandler Chandler in June it's going to be big they just been trying to do it for a long time so I didn't know if it still still I think officially I think it's I think I think the craziest part about it is what like eight weeks before a fight that he's still like coked and drunk out of his mind who you got though who that's a good it is crazy that he still like he tweeted that deleted like 20 minutes later he was definitely [ __ ] up on well that's what I was going to say we can't just Grace past that do you is that that's a that's a bold thing to say do you you know he's on coke is that a is that are you [ __ ] gills I don't know anything but I know for certain that he's brother like look at the time of the tweets and look at what he's saying like also and he's like known for this simar tweets yeah yeah I don't know just manic brother I think he is I do think Ryan is I think he when he said he was playing into it a little bit I I think he's kind of using that I think he's [ __ ] crazy what what what would happen if you and Ryan boxed that's I mean there's only one way to find out he has a lot better chances of beating me in a boxing match than he does in a real fight keep up I do I I [ __ ] I truly believe in myself that's how I got to the [ __ ] position I'm in right now I can box I can throw hands um I don't think it'd be easy by any means I do think it's possible I beat him I'm not saying my my odds are great but I do believe I could beat Ryan Bo if there was anybody you could box for your first boxing match debut who are you Bo give an easy fight give me Deon Haney you give [Laughter] me honest answer uh I mean if we're I I would say Floyd if I Pi if I could sit here and pick who I box first boxing fight I pick Floyd because it would be the biggest most crazy most legendary fight maybe not most legendary some people for me okay but outside of that on a skill based level oh I I could hang with some good [ __ ] pro boxers I'm undefeated in boxing you think you think if you and uh ilot boxed that' be ilot is very very [ __ ] skilled boxing that's an interesting question so who what what professional boxer would you equate your PA Mike Tyson I know of Devon Haney now because Ryan Garcia beat him uh dvon Davis he's really short I know him um maybe smacking [ __ ] up though he does he that little guy he can't he can't ride roll coasters though that is true so there's a there's a tradeoff like Cruz fight he was riding a roller coaster no like I'm talking about like at the fair oh no you know like there there's a trade-off in life you know where things get weird it's like it's like yo he's really good but you can't even just hit Dante fan brother can't even ride the top not a Dante fan that's not what I'm wait what did what did I say to say I'm not a you didn't say I mean I don't think he knows that it's a short joke I don't think he picked up on you want me tell him I was joking shut the [ __ ] up I get I say that was a joke I'm what are you trying to say I'm but are you trying to insinuate that I'm short no honestly you're probably what five you're 5'9 you're like 5' seven and a half stop doing stop doing it stop doing that cuz [ __ ] is going to see this and be like he's 5'6 actually if you watching this and you think I'm 5'6 and you want to try me in person please any [ __ ] who see me out I'm punching your [ __ ] out I'm like 5'9 on a good day when when I'm lying to women I'm 5'10 for sure who's gonna ID me I'm wearing forces I'm a [ __ ] liar all right so now for the truth jakee he's like what like he's 5 No but don't do that bro all right all right we won't we'll cut that out like yeah n don't cut it out n don't see me and see these but you know dvon is 5'5 legit that's cool bro I know but is that not short just be honest is that five five short for a grown man for a grown man is that short you can be a fan I'm not I'm a fan of javante and he's five that's a little little bro all right the joke went over his head anyways so the short joke [ __ ] is trying to play me like I'm short no no no we're we're not we're not you're [ __ ] tall all right let's pivot yeah so um SI yeah sh shout out to the shout out to the pivot but but yeah like Jasper's a little riled up things are on edge he's a little he's a little turned up it's been a long day a long two days we've been shooting uh because we have a new [ __ ] company did we say we talk about that yet I we said in the beginning raise your arms up [ __ ] goed [ __ ] goed shout out to w a fun few days it's been a fun few days days you're going to see the content rolling out um but you speaking of but Ruby Rose did a good job oh my God I wanted to bite that M listen anyway if you're near wmart if you're watching this right now I don't give a [ __ ] what you're doing you could be taking care of your kid you could be taking care of your elderly parents [ __ ] them go to Walmart June 1st Nationwide I don't care if you in Pensacola you in Massachusetts all in places that sound [ __ ] stupid there's a Walmart there and you go there it's a better for you product vitamin ifuse number [ __ ] one yeah no basically I I think dialing back like the business story of it because you're also like a very smart businessman intellectual doing everything you do in and outside of the Ring which a lot of people don't have which contributes to you being uh the biggest in my opinion the biggest UFC star um but yeah we we basically I guess this is the podcast where we tell people where W came from but um we started building this company like a year and a half ago and really saw how all these other companies like as we move into better for you products and less harmful products we saw how the leaders in the space didn't have the best formulas didn't have the best manufacturing had all of these harmful substances in it and we're also brands from when I was like 9 years old I don't want to list names but they're still like having all the Shelf space in stores and I was just like this is wild like this is boring this is lame the the the we need something new we need something that's better uh males have vitamin uh deficiencies like crazy especially with magnesium Jasper just can't get enough of it uh especially with magnesium um and biotin is in the body wash uh vitamin E one two of the best vitamins for your skin and hair um but as The Story Goes long story short we we come up with this brand that represents so many things um but I think winning in everyday life whether you're the valedictorian whether you are the high school jock whether you're philanthropist now you have a product that you can embody and wear every single day that's increasing your vitamin intake that is less harmful to you that's where the idea came from and just being the winning formula in category uh went to Walmart pitched them the whole idea they [ __ ] loved it helped us build the brand even and come up with the scent profiles and all the things that are the the most popular um and this has been something I've wanted to do for so long we had to bring in the best people to be a part of it the winners in their category and that's number one Numero Uno sha Ali here um and he instantly saw the vision and already in the past couple of days it's been like super fun filming all the content behind yeah I was pumped when you [ __ ] called me appreciate you thinking of me and uh excited to help grow this business [ __ ] it's needed it's needed we're going to take over the whole bathroom you know tooed if you [ __ ] with the dogs and cows and chickens dog in you I know what I got that dog in me and I use it so be dog free baby am I missing anything with that no I think that was great the one the one thing I would touch on and you did in a way but it's it is body wash it is body spray it is deodorant but it also is there's an ethos that stands behind this brand which is the ethos that you stand for and it's the ethos that you stand for and the ethos that you stand for and the one that I stand for if I say ethos again I'm GNA start stumbling over my words but it's it's it's like you said it it doesn't the winners in life aren't just you you're on a big stage in life you're you're you're crushing it in every aspect financially you're a star you're leading your sport that's awesome on every [ __ ] level it's it's an encouragement to to young men all around the world to [ __ ] get up off their ass and get sh it don't matter if you score high on a test you whatever the [ __ ] it is that you do well maybe not so it matters what the [ __ ] you do but it also doesn't matter what the [ __ ] you do anybody is a winner as long as you put in the work and you have the will to win and I love it I I would say that's wrong I would say that not anybody is a winner and I think that's something that the brand also stands for like you really got to win you got to as you have the will to win no I'm just saying I think that's an important point cuz we live in a world today where a lot of people think everybody can be a winner that's not true if you Los you might be a loser and if you're a loser the good news is there's a hidden l in the logo actually we'll trace it for you with our graphic design team there's a hidden l in the logo because and I I I wanted to make sure that was was a thing because the biggest loss of my life turned out to be the biggest W in my life and I always had the saying like two L's make a w and when I lost to Tommy Fury it was embarrassing all these things but I realized I wasn't focused I wasn't as locked in as I could be the team around me from a boxing standpoint wasn't good I was having personal issues with relationships and all of these things that I had to shed and grow from and I grew into this new and completely different person but I wouldn't have done that if I didn't lose on the biggest stage possible and I think that was part of the ethos ethos ethos ethos of the brand was to encourage people that in their lowest moments to turn those into into their biggest W's eventually when Jake just said that the biggest loss of his life ended up being the biggest W of his life you said same yeah yeah same what what was that story for supposedly lost for lost to Cheeto back in 2020 August it it was I mean it sucked at the time but I it didn't suck too bad because I was like okay I didn't lose because I you know and it was different I wasn't I mean I was focused everything went good training camp everything was good but I was like that sucks I'm goingon to get that back someday when the time is right and then my last fight two two months ago in Miami headline I'm the champ defending my belt against that same guy how rewarding was that three and a half years later August three and a half years later boom beat his ass as a fan of yours it made it so sweet because of all the doubters that constantly like put you down and didn't believe in you and said he was going to destroy you and then you he literally like you embarrass him that was a performance of a life you embarrassed the [ __ ] out of him and I think that's literally a prime example of turning l l into into a w and I really that's what that's where the hidden l in the brand in the logo is um and representing that every single day when you see these products in your bathroom and when we say we have a saying it's not just a product it's a lifestyle absolutely trademarked Incorporated All Rights Reserved 2024 brother uh but but yeah man it's it's an honor to have you a part of this and uh we we really made what we think are the best products on the market from the body wash being exfoliating vitamin infused to the body spray what we found out is a lot of these fragrances like you get like these high-end designer brands that have like $500 colognes turns out it only cost them a dollar to make that and they're literally making like $499 on top of that so we had a fine fragrance house is what these places are called and we got the super expensive scents and gave it to people to what they're worth like we're not trying to these products are super super affordable and I think it's so funny because that's the world we live in where like you just label something and get like a European girl to go this is one of the lower priced men's care products on the market yeah if I'm not mistaken and it's it's the $500 fragrance in the affordable bottle because we want everyone we've been using a body wash in the past two days since we got the samples after the shoot and I personally want to say I got the in there you could bleep it out whatever you want to do W's winning n b genuinely that's that's the saying is the it's winning formula cuz it really is like it really is if if we're going to call our company [ __ ] W it has to be the best we the winners winning product indeed indeed winning customers all that type of [ __ ] indeed better Derek today he's just got a punch I'm not Li I talked to him before he left he wants to punch you up bro he's got a punchable face I like him though it's weird it's like God I like that guy but I want [ __ ] KO pick him up and like it's okay boom one more to the liing me earlier and I'm just letting you know don't shoot the messenger on God he said he wants to get in the ring with you I can call him really he oh yeah he he you want to call him yeah where is he at is wait uh no call no call he's coming up oh um he's talking smack he said he actually wants a spar I swear to God he said he wants to get percentage should I go you guys I literally out let that's crazy timeing saying talk [ __ ] to my face if you're going to talk [ __ ] that's crazy timing what were you saying they were telling me you want to get in the ring and Spar bit or they didn't say Spar they said fight yeah I'm down to do either but uh yeah no I'm just sick of the [ __ ] [ __ ] you've been saying on your podcast uh you called me you made fun of my weight and you called me gay I did not no I well okay okay you said that he wouldn't ever say that what you got to say what your chest that's what I just [ __ ] said bro I he was like oh if I if stand on it you talking to him you talking to him you ain't talking to me my assistant Sono would would piece you he's never boxed a day he never I'm here to fight your video I'm here to fight you what did I what was the first thing I said to you when when I saw you what was the first thing I said to you that we could fight no I said you look thick wait but when we were talking earlier weren't you saying he's a [ __ ] and you wanted to get a ring with him and all type [ __ ] what I'm saying right now say it then I just said the [ __ ] ring so we can after this we have a ring 2 feet away and he's a [ __ ] and whatever else you was saying to me yeah he's [ __ ] what about my hair say something about my hair I I already said that at the W shoot that you look like you haven't showered in [ __ ] a week okay all right d hey buddy hey hey what's your long-term play not no but see you guys you guys are making me seem crazy you're out of your mind he Derek Dereck go warm up hit the hit the heavy back H the warm up is almost listen legendary as send location dble PIV go warm up hey hey double pivot sit sit I'm not [ __ ] no I I'll sit and talk but I'm not [ __ ] no sit on the floor walk you want to take my seat hey how much how much of what's going on ch ch how much of what's going on is is a character versus like actual delusion how much is a character yeah decent uh I would say there are times where I know what I have to do for my boxing career to like like we all why is he laughing cuz you said career I beat your [ __ ] boy your [ __ ] [ __ ] bro you know what I I recall you did beat I recall calling steiny saying what the [ __ ] was that buddy I love steiny but I do remember watching that and thinking I wasn't proud of that I was not proud of that from steiny and I wish I wish he would come to the gym I wish he'd get in there I wish he'd train a little bit and I wish he would have a rematch but that's on him I've been trying to get the rematch but he's been ding me do you think Derek won he said I won I thought I thought he won I'd have to rewatch but I do think I come on baby the comments have [ __ ] dragged me for months after that [ __ ] 99% of the comments say I lost so please say it one more time Sean no I said it what I said it's like therapy or something no but to answer your question uh we all know uh uh as Fighters there's a side of promotion stop [ __ ] first of all Gus shut the [ __ ] up our our audio guys uh like can't stop laughing is that the facial his facial hair or is what he's saying bro that's bold of you to talk facial hair bro that's bold of you to I'm not Li you look dirty you look like Jeffrey done training right Jesus I train every day but anyway we know like there's two sides of of promotion as well as the actual athletic competition that is Combat Sports so there are times where I might play up a little bit like hey promoting but let him go let him go all right if you if all if you think I'm all promoting that I'll see you in the [ __ ] ring and I'll knock both you either of you out well um well Jake's a [ __ ] fat [ __ ] right now he weighs like 240 so I got I goty I gotta pick my words wisely like he's Jake's 240 I I know I know but like I'm not going to sit here and pick a fight against somebody that's 240 when I'm se's my weight class when I stopped you in one round like just like but when I was getting started out of come this is where I'm at since then I told him he could have somebody tag team I'm down I'm down to fight anybody in this [ __ ] room not one person in this room I'm the best part about this is like uh right after this we I think you're you're down to do like one round or three minutes right I mean I'd prefer 12 but we okay yeah 12 I mean that my biggest advantage in the ring ring is my cardio I do 12 12 okay so no I have a genuine question so five round I'm not I'm not one have I ever said I'm a UFC fighter no I'm just say we can box I'm just saying that's I'm used to five you want to do three we could do that aren't you trying to be a boxer with your [ __ ] Ryan Garcia call he would knock knock your [ __ ] ass out so quickly it wouldn't be close I'm one and0 pro boxing what are you actually I saw that video I saw video I'm also want to know thank you officially hey they count that's real commiss but uh I didn't mean I didn't mean to take I didn't mean to take over the pot I just wanted to a couple you definitely didn't yeah okay I try I'm trying to help you no we love you go warm up yeah yeah go warm up the bags don't warm up too much though don't get tired how much do you wa right now without Timberlands and jean shorts on high 120 low 13 no without lying though okay that [ __ ] is you think you got you got him one round I think I could beat him I think I can beat him I I think I could handicap myself to three just put on one glove I could do that what do you think actually happens now when you go downstairs and he gets in that ring like what's his plan that's what I don't get about him but that's why it's that's do me a favor that's why he's Cloud it up because love [ __ ] up [ __ ] he's going he's going to try to Yap he's going to try to talk please just go 100% yeah no actually actually please go 100% if he signs a consent form we'll have him no we've already got like multiple consent forms for better media with like death wavers [ __ ] no no no but he needs it he needs that I'll go like 40 no go like 75 Sean I'm I'm going to be honest bro don't even go 20% he's the nice [ __ ] bro don't do that bro you want him to go 100% no no to be honest but just like work with him and then just like maybe just just like a really good punching and then he'll give up 75% uh I'm nervous man I'm shaking for Derek yeah yeah that's good I understand that there a couple flinches if you Flinch hard enough the the wind coming off you will put him down let him walk you down and bait him boom sleeping what's your next upcoming fight a maraba jaaba and when is that uh not nothing yet I'm hoping for September maybe October maybe November maybe December I'm F ready to go baby what if it was next month I wouldn't be ready to go I like I like 10 to 12 weeks 10 to 12 he likes eight I mean I I normally do like 10 yeah just like but I've been super the first few weeks are [ __ ] pre-amps this Camp I'm channeling my Ryan Garcia would you ever do a Ryan Garcia regiment during Camp drink and smoke every night you do a little I I probably yeah I'm not actually doing that for the people out there he's locked in clocked in locked in locked in ready to go yeah May 20th we start but by the time the people see this it'll be uh June or something like that that is crazy you're fighting Mike that you fought Ben asran wrestler good good [ __ ] UFC was really good UF bit Tyron Woodley twice Anderson Silva knockout of the year with Nate Robinson can't forget about deji deji the the the goat do we say Gibb or is that like that's just crazy resume like literally [ __ ] C by way thank you Gib cuz we had a really good party after he knocked you the [ __ ] out who W we're skipping two professional boxers this always no no the recent ones this always happens I'm trying to just think cuz two cuz this is what everybody asked for this is what everybody asked for who who are the two professional boxers you fighted you got to name them Andre August and Ryan Borland go okay people don't people are like fight a pro boxer and then I do and then they're like that was boring as a man of combat he what were 10 and one nine and one nine and one what is your take on his [ __ ] all of his fights and who he's fighting in the competition dude I've been excited as [ __ ] since I started I remember you I remember the first time I watched was the Nate Robinson I watched that one at home and then uh I don't remember what it was after that but I remember watching Ben Asam in Atlanta I think that was the first time we actually met was right after the fight I think we hugged I was like y I picked you up you carried me back to the locker room that it was love at first sight that was crazy actually yeah actually I [ __ ] with him we became best friends like a couple days later you going to leave me hanging no no I would it's my eyebrow but uh yeah no I think he's obviously super skilled I think it's and I I it's inspired me even in the position I'm at UFC World Champ sexy you know what I mean like tall dark handsome TR inspired me just business the business uh side of things that you've done I've always thought putting on massive fight that's why I'm such a huge Conor fan cuz the pay-per-views he's done is so [ __ ] he's been fighting for four years and [ __ ] that he's been doing the massive fights the fights I get excited for there's a few UFC fights the high the big big fights that I get excited for but every time you fought even when uh Logan fought Floyd I was [ __ ] like excited like all fight week so i' I've been inspired from what you've done from a business side from the boxing side they even just start so not late but for a boxer but these boxers start when they're [ __ ] three four years old like Ryan and tank like they're young buck the Tik Tac I sent you of Devon Haney's debut fight yeah it's wild he was fighting a five foot Mexican in a in a bar was it Dante bro if I show you this [ __ ] oh no I did see that I did see that I did see that when you started even seeing that first video fighting Anderson Silva six fights in bro like do you know how insane that is he's one of the greatest correct me if I'm wrong UFC Strikers in history yeah 100% so does that make me one of the greatest UFC Strikers and one of the greatest wrestlers cuz wood but Ben ask was but Nate Diaz is ducking me in MMA oh am crazy I am weak that's a sick fight MMA I I wish it was that would happened right after the boxing same he's actually ducking it which is why it's crazy because he's not he's not in UFC no but we we upped it to 15 million damn that's crazy though that would be a I like Nate Diaz but that would be such a fun buildup he actually doesn't want to do it all Sean how do you genuinely Jake's not here it's me and you in a room actually how do you see that fight going for Jake what MMA him you're not here J for Nate in MMA keep it a bean God it's it's so hard to you're a big [ __ ] right now on what weight would it be5 185 I don't hate I don't I it's not a it's a winable fight for you I really do think that but Nate is so [ __ ] you would have to do what I did against aljo and morab do not let that [ __ ] grab you not that you can't wrestle cuz I know you can wrestle but once he starts grabbing you and doing Jiu-Jitsu if he gets on top his little he likes his little trips it would be hard for you to win I feel like if he if he started grappling just pure Jiu-Jitsu if it let's be real if it goes to the floor is he [ __ ] if he's on his back Nate's not like a super strong guy so if you learn how to like I mean I'm sure you know how to get up to a single legegg stuff like that but then you start getting your neck grabbed I don't know how much Jiu-Jitsu you know I mean Nate's a [ __ ] high Lev black belt um if you could keep it standing 100% there's winnable ways there if he if he went to the ground feel like he might be able to grab your neck no that that's exactly how I feel about it if I don't get guillotined yeah then I win the fight because even if he was on top take your back but even if he was on top of me I would just throw him off of me cuz he's also the weakest puncher I've ever fought like when he was hitting me I was I almost like started laughing I'm I'm not even saying this to talk [ __ ] out of everyone I've sparred in my whole entire life and everyone I fought his punches are even me we I don't think you ever landed a punch on me is that true well that's not true so I don't anyone no I'm literally not even talking [ __ ] which is why I think it's funny that he dropped Connor and [ __ ] cuz it's just like how Conor with like to the ground yeah like with a straight left hand yeah which is crazy like I I'm not just talking [ __ ] when I say that and I've told you I've literally told you this you told me this after the fight yeah I was like he is the weakest puncher I've ever fought in my life who's who's the weakest puncher you've ever you've ever come to face um there I mean there's been so many fights where I later didn't even get hit um uh does that like make you jaded at all when you get into a fight and you don't really get love that [ __ ] I prefer not to get hit at all but like if I was you and I wasn't get hit at all I'd probably work less no no no no I I know I don't get hit because I work that hard so if I didn't work hard I know I'd probably get hit I'm just a lazy [ __ ] so so here you are on top of the world we're launching [ __ ] W going to be a billion dollar business [ __ ] you I always forget uh UFC champ accomplishing all your goals what do you want next uh what are what is the threeyear fiveyear for Sean I I truly do want to get a boxing fight I'm not I'm not super set on that to where like I'm like going to be [ __ ] if it doesn't happen I do think it'll be interesting especially if I go out there knock morab out Ryan does his thing I think there's a [ __ ] sweet fight there if it doesn't happen not that worried about it want to go out there beat morab I'd like to you know if Max Max and Elia fight I would like to fight go move up to 45 fight the winner of that um you know maybe have three to five maybe have a few more kids definitely want another little baby I love kids my fite pump him out shout out to Danny who's your top pick in a boxing fight though if you if you could choose your Ryan now was like the I mean what he after dvon Beat Ryan I was like javante then Ryan goes out there does his thing really though I think Dante do you is that is that not a big [ __ ] leap Ryan like you said before he's been doing this his whole life one thing that's been proven is that the crossover it's it's not a good return Fury he did his thing okay the excep is the exception we've seen it with okay but then Anthony Joshua put his ass t was crazy super night night he was I'm I'm here for big fights like I wanted to get into the UFC and I wanted to make big fights watching Conor versus Floyd I'm like that [ __ ] happened really happened hey you versus Derek that could be as big as Connor in Floyd but no but I I think the craziest [ __ ] about Conor versus Floyd is that overall it was a W for everyone involved so there's certain fights where it just like doesn't matter what happens that's the world we live in yeah I mean UFC told me they said if the if the fight's big enough and it'll make the UFC money they'll do it what means more to you your your your record being pre or the amount of money you're making all right let me ask you something it's about to get real J's drunk Jasper's drunk as [ __ ] y record or money [ __ ] it depends the Gap like like the gap of money if it's like an extra 10 15 20 million but I lose a couple important fights probably not you just take like 150 million I'll be like like [ __ ] my record baby yeah it depends on the gap of money Jake Paul is not here right now just like a Mayweather Conor McGregor you taking that fight ver Jake yeah no he's my buddy I could I mean I don't I don't even no I no funny no there's you know what's funny is always in my Snapchat story once once a day pretty much someone says we knock out Jake Paul like there's every sing all the time for so long people just want to see me get [ __ ] is good though that's like the thing yeah but I'm sensitive it is funny though people [ __ ] love to hate confidence the craziest thing though actually about both of you like I met you very recently like I didn't realize you're as like normal as you are I don't know why I thought you violent like you guys are both like very goofy mellow and stupid and c and and awesome it's like the greatest thing ever like I couldn't believe when I met you you're like one of us like yeah I wouldn't think you're a [ __ ] yeah one of the coolest people in the world for sure yeah but not a lot of people uh can like I don't know we have like a weird it's hard toes Meat Heads I'm like this the this my dog I think it's a little bit of dark humor too it's like some [ __ ] up [ __ ] that we say off camera [ __ ] sometimes but I think it's like there's a certain yeah like that's how my whole group is back home it's like we all just we're all just kind of [ __ ] dumb I'm smart but like they're dumb well someone commented like yo Jake Paul's the dumbest genius in the world and I was just like I say that [ __ ] all the time you wed up the other day and I was like this is the most genius dumbass in the world no jokes Hey Brother chill buddy trying to get me cancelled no what how old are you 23 are you really yeah no you're not he's not is he what do you think think what did you think Oh no you're 267 27 what did you think he was I thought he was older I thought he was like 27 26 yeah a niggaer mature was that ladies you got a boo you got a girl you just be slanging she timeout right now I don't really talk about she don't time out it's a little tricky she not taking care of herself what do you guys think about Tom Brady R you watch it yeah they kept comp panning to you every 5 Seconds bro I swear there's a huge camer sitting there the whole time but it's cool to see Netflix going hard like that cuz they went hard they swing that meat around huha yeah let's pivot yeah just sorry about him I'm drunk man not yeah but but it was it was great it wasar they should have got rid of most of the football players going up there yeah there's a couple ones Ben afflac is that who that was on there that was wild that was so weird that was so weird it was cool to see how [ __ ] less sensitive people are becoming I feel like feel like it's recently like there's a big push back I think people got sick of it we went super super super PC for a long time people were like wait a second we like being able to say what we want to say I saw kill Tony say oh type of crazy [ __ ] on there that watch every [ __ ] Monday you were on kill Tony yeah how old are you actually buddy I'm a comedian Budd full time no yeah I was on that I was nervous as hell though I was like just being it's a live I do podcast once a week like me and Tim do our podcast every [ __ ] week but to be there in front of an audience live it's weird it's a different kind of well so you say Tim but let's let's talk about actually the fact that you get trained by by one of the greatest boxers of all time it's really that's something what's happened like that's crazy working with Canelo as your as your coach that's what I'm saying people don't going to be Ryan but like yeah that is true I never even thought about that for did you even know that this guy proba even know that that orange [ __ ] is nice wait will I get cancelled by the ginger community no you're black oh no my dad my dad's Ginger and I'm I'm like this [ __ ] is ginger bro he be shaving he be shaving his beard and I zoom in zoom in it's it's slightly orange so I'm a quarter ginger on South Park they made fun of Gingers and that [ __ ] made the news I [ __ ] with the ginger people but like y'all [ __ ] you like redhead girls oh yeah was Super Soaker but anyway yeah like y'all [ __ ] is orange and that's okay but back to you one of y'all that's not drunk I got a question cuz this guy clipped out a lot did Tim actually like you guys about him like saying to fight that was yeah that was real Tim always be talking [ __ ] to the like he's been doing that for so long so what happened he just talk I mean he just he Alo the knee's coming Alo you got to shoot Alo watch out for this like he's been saying that since I've been in the UFC like my debut vers terion where he was talking [ __ ] to terion too and uh he just does it every fight but this happened to just be crazy timing to like Tim you got Tim like alre you got to go and like literally he he like that's when he threw that left hand or whatever stepped into Southpaw and uh or stepped into Orthodox and got dropped it was it was funny the timing because he's like Al you got to go I don't I truly don't think that's why that's not why Alo went I bet you could I bet Alo didn't even hear that but Tim's always chirping and stuff but people on the internet are [ __ ] mad about that a lot of them actually like it I'll say majority of people are thinking that's the funniest [ __ ] ever there's a couple [ __ ] that are like you should be banned think it's a fight would you run the alra fight back or one and done never I like that why would I yeah am I supposed to top that you know what I'm saying I got love for Alo we had him on the show and he he seems like a good dude I actually don't mind Alo I does that ever happen where like you'll have a personal relationship with someone personal runin with them and it's all great but then now all of a sudden you have to fight each other I've never had I've not of running with someone that's been like uh more than like I've ran into aljo morab at the UFC I'm like hey what's up talk to him a little bit you know nothing no ill will um but I haven't had like a run with someone I actually lik them mhm and then at the fight them so you're not friends with any any other UFC fighters oh I have a there's there's a couple guys in my in my weight class that I train with at the lab that are like climbing the r uh ladders what happened with uh the 125 pounder I I don't even know his name and I'm not I'm just not like yeah what's his name I Alexander pania bro this story is actually kind of funny so 2016 I think it was it was like 3 and0 4 and0 and I was still fighting at like I fought at 125 not too long before that I fought at like 130 which is in a weight class was like so I wasn't like a 155 like I am now I was probably like 14 back then and uh Henry cejudo comes in I'm three or four and0 at the point at this point it comes in with this kid Alexander PTO just won The Ultimate Fighter I think he's got his UFC debut or it's his second UFC fight he's a couple weeks out from his fight I'm [ __ ] the night before me and Tim ripping bongs like hanging out being goofballs and [ __ ] so the next morning so we brought him in for sparring hry sudo brings in Alexander you're 4-0 he's King [ __ ] he he's just won The Ultimate Fighter and so they write the names on on the board who who you're sparring I'm like oh [ __ ] I got Alexander Pantoja versus me for one round one round he has three rounds so you write one one name then usually you you spar with one guy then they go out you spar with a fresh guy they go out spar with the fresh guy that's usually how it works so my name was just up there for one round that's it we Spar one round I didn't know anything about him cuz I I didn't really watch it like that 25 I don't really watch 25ers like that but somebody's like oh [ __ ] that's he a black belt he just won The Ultimate Fighter I was like oh [ __ ] I got to [ __ ] Focus up here first round boom Dro him with a liver kick and I wasn't going to post I record all my rounds I have so many sparring rounds like I wasn't going to post it was and for some reason I don't know why he would talk [ __ ] and bring it up cuz I literally I don't know you know know I don't know if you know how it works but you finish a guy the fight's over right no no did he um so I finished him the first round he hit him boom with the liver I posted the video yesterday and I've had it for a long time I didn't want to post it CU you don't post sparring like that but he just kept bringing it up so boom finished him first round um then uh after the first round round I go to walk out and Henry's over there crying box of Kleenex just like [ __ ] wiping his tears crying we want you for a second round so mad that this little like I was nobody just finished his dude he's in the UFC he's supposed to be the man finish him in the first round so Henry's crying saying he wants another round um so I piece him up again in the second round and I'm I'm dying at this point my lungs are burning I'm not in shape for fight I I'm nowhere near in Camp for a fight and I my lungs are hurting and uh Henry again crying blowing his nose and like I want you for a third and Benson comes in Benson Henderson absolute Legend comes in and was yelling cuz that's his it was the his gym the MMA lab we don't let people come in our gym and make us tired and blah blah blah and I'm [ __ ] just just huffing and puffing I just got done work in this dude for 10 minutes finished him in the first round did I say that liver kick um we'll put the footage I have the foot yeah it's right there insert the footage so third round come out boom piece him up again and he's so I don't know why he keeps bringing up this bringing this up in the media I think it's because people ask him but I don't know why he doesn't just say yeah yeah no no I don't want to talk about it he keeps saying like he's like oh I got in I found his range and [ __ ] I'm like bro you you stopped him in one round stopped him in round one and let him live and continue to fight for round two these delusional uh like wild people are weirdos but the reason I posted cuz he kept bringing it up exactly wait so is he the champ now at 125 yeah okay but why does he still want to talk [ __ ] to you if you got [ __ ] up that's what I'm saying I don't know either either you drop to 125 and get that no I can't drop to 125 that's too much now you're a thick [ __ ] I am a thick but yeah I SP I think it's important for up and cominging Spar uh fighters to record their rounds and watch their rounds not for that this reason you know but just to I've improve so much watching my sparring y I have thousands of rounds maybe not thousands hundreds of rounds from 10 years ago on my on my computer of uh it's like NFL team is watching footage the time [ __ ] 100% got to watch that [ __ ] that's I I have every single round recorded and and again I I don't post sparring either exactly you know put in a highlight video make a vlog boom we're sparring people but it's never like [ __ ] up your guy yeah exactly but Mike Perry honestly like what he's been doing is pretty Fu he went to Bare knuckle that [ __ ] just meant for him bare knuckle fighting it's crazy different going crazy he's doing good he's [ __ ] undefeated over there he's beating some really good guys stay over here [ __ ] [ __ ] only place that you should be getting tickets from is game time.co it's it's the only place I go it is the only place you can possibly go they have 110% price match guarantee that's what we use to get our tickets for the NBA Finals you can get $20 off your first order go to gametime.co JJ a $20 off your first order they're doing a deal specifically for y'all and you could see where your tickets are before you buy them seeing the seats they have all of the these great policies last 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platform there is Mike Paul versus Jake Tyson here's my official prediction tell us and even if even if it's against me like it's not it's not I do think you're going to beat Mike Tyson uh it's crazy that I even saying that out loud right now cuz you're fighting Mike Tyson it's [ __ ] crazy even just when we were walking down the the street today people all genders all ages knew you were fighting Mike Tyson it's such a massive fights live on Netflix which is [ __ ] crazy it's in a stadium which is [ __ ] crazy it is crazy I believe in you I see what you I see what you're doing I see you know that you believe in yourself Mike Tyson is uh hasn't fought in however long it's been so for him to just come up and get a fight be I I'm sure is going to be in as good a shape as he possibly could be in but it's just you know it's it's it's it's not his time right now I love Mike Tyson I never actually met him but I love Mike Tyson I do think Jake's gonna get the job done and I do think eight rounds eight two-minute rounds eight two-minute rounds I believe I believe you could put them away in the later rounds you know five six seven eight I do think you could put it put him down which is crazy to even [ __ ] think you rap yeah that's fire I'm just lazy and inconsistent that's not a w no that sh it is not you start using Brandon yell at him every day but cuz you can actually spit that's fire no but but people know him now from like podcasting they don't know he's a rapper and hurts his soul J sick name Lil jizz what J JZ that's good that's good you should switch your [ __ ] I switch my [ __ ] from come Master to kill Jas bro honestly though that's I think singing rapping spitting is one of the things that if I could switch talents be doing something like that that's good or twerking I ain't going to lie you shook that [ __ ] earlier I got a I got a thing on me you that [ __ ] wiggle a little bit let's let's pivot though cuz yep hit a pivot uh yeah do we have a speaker should we play Jasper's new song or something you got a new one I thought you were lazy some new [ __ ] go ahead play on your phone just put it in the speaker put it in the mic too this the [ __ ] I'm dropping when I'm Indie that sound decent I'm not rapping either I'm yapping that's not going to get you drunk yo I made this beat that's crazy I like the way you look I won't lie you got something I need you my with a fly girl like you doing with no guy a little sh don't really go outside I'm not crazy right place and right time you all smiles and pretty light brown [Music] [Music] like that better if I forget you but I just can't time saying do better and I'm sure you can find that guy that's worth all right cut it cut it cut it that's that's enough that's enough that's enough that's enough for real can't give the whole thing it's not out yet yeah hey good [ __ ] that's fire I'll be rapping though but that's some pop [ __ ] just cuz I can do it so why are you consistent cuz I'm lazy and jaded and and spoiled yeah it's unfortunate maam shout out to the homies for a lot of talented people out there that just are yeah don't smoke crack yo also there there is a parallel there don't do don't do that there's a parallel with the same thing he's talking about I think Fighters probably where it's like you could have all the talent in the world he's got that's why I get so [ __ ] mad at him it's cuz he has all the talent in the world really I get more pissed off than he gets and he could be a superstar but he just is lazy he doesn't put the work in he's not he's not strategic and it is hard when you got when you live in a crib in Puerto Rico right you got chefs and [ __ ] and you fly private with me yeah that's it that's it bro that's it you got to you got get paychecks and [ __ ] y'all got to evict me that's not a bad idea honestly I think we talked about it let's make I was I'm H we had a conversation but I just can't I can't because I love you so much I need you but then I'll probably be more like need you y yeah I guarante and then we you would still have to like fly in once a week to to do the pods and it would be resentment and then I I'll go out like and I'll try to start shooting at y'all oh my God I guarantee I would be in the position I'm in if I if I had money and like had already made it like financially had [ __ ] I wouldn't have made it that's why people think I'm crazy but CC the other side of it is like boom right so I'm from com California same hey shout out my [ __ ] yeah man I was homeless for the first half of my life mom's a drug addict dad's a gang member I've never had anything in my life right and my whole life has been music I dropped out in ninth grade I was like I'm going to make music my dad kicks me out he's like you can't live under this roof like be more like your brothers my brothers are [ __ ] star students one got a full ride scholarship loser all all type of [ __ ] nerd ass [ __ ] all those [ __ ] are fat and unemploy now one dropped out of school a full rise scholarship and is just sitting at home right so boom from having nothing to like me saying I'm going to risk everything that I have in my life to become a music artist and it works I get to a certain place and I'm like damn I did exactly I hit a ceiling right so it's like now I had to recalibrate he got a big record deal and then and then like use I crashed out and became a m addict for four four days a week for 30 like 90 days oh it's not bad but then I moved cuz my homeboy was like you need to move and I was like nah [ __ ] that I made a million I ain't going to move I'm going to maintain this lifestyle I'm a junkie but I'm rich yep I crashed out and was like yeah I need to move lost 60 lbs went to Puerto Rico locked in recalibrated and now I'm ready to be but that's that's here's the problem we run into now is that you've recalibrated and now it's still it's been 6 months the album's supposed to be 6 months ago and we're still waiting for the album that's the problem and that's what you got to work on never too late though let's start it let's get because you're vitamin deficient right yeah yeah cuz like a lot of people can't think straight when they're vitamin deficient and all that a week ago kind of elaborated on that so yeah this isn't therapy um I got shout out Suzie right right huh Susie but she's hot is she not you think my therapist you guys got the same one I could pee and vape on this podcast I got to go pee go pee I could pee yeah I mean I think we I think we end the episode because uh let's wrap it up you can get W available at Walmart anyway if you walk into Walmart whether you with your mom your daddy you by yourself you go in that [ __ ] men body care aisle you buy that and comment down below what you thought of the episode for um us being brain fried over and uh jper but Buzz also comment cuz this coming out when the product releases comment your favorite scent and sent $10,000 right no I'm send you 1,000 I ain't got 10,000 for you but I'll send you 1,000 I'll send someone 10,000 he'll send you 10,000 I'll send you a th000 and I'm going through the comments for sure anyway good luck Charlie and if you got a test soon good luck on that [ __ ] that's what we [Music] do what are those 8 O gloves I want you to know they were talking up there he ain't going easy so be ready all right legit be ready buddy I'm using these bags don't show Too Much don't show we're boxing we're boxing I don't I do that on accident sometimes just know that that might come up just keep your hands up I'm just saying I might throw that up I haven't knocked someone out in a while just cuz my last fight didn't go off it went off five rounds I've been like craving just putting someone's lights out lately it's weird versus your boy better Derek I I hope Sean isn't nice and just [ __ ] him up that's your that's your trainee [ __ ] D all righty folks welcome to your main event of the evening starting out first in the loser corner you have better day with a record of no wins no losses I beat ste's [ __ ] out no anything he is 5'7 120 lbs lost in the mile to better JoJo but he's still delusional in his fighting career and to my left in the winning Corner sponsored by W sugar sha Ali The Undefeated UFC champion of the world it's time to fight bring it to the center we already spoke about the rules in the locker room beforehand give me your glove give me your hand touch gloves I want a clean fair fight no no hits below the waist back to your Corners time you ready judge you ready and fight [Music] [Applause] I'm out of balance or something oh do Dodge that [ __ ] hold on hold on hold on hold [ __ ] come on come on just oh my God one back of the head no no no back of the head four ref didn't see it five six me in the eyes Walk This Way Walk This Way for me he's running Walk This Way for me my car run all right and we're in in that right that's called all right time time time one two that was a that was a slip four up six bro Rizo what the [ __ ] are you doing all right get up SLP all right come on time in come on got come on got you [ __ ] black I'm going to I need to work I need to see some work black UT D somebody said 10 seconds like 8 seconds ago all right great back to your corner back to your corner back to your corner stay in there you're doing good right now this feel good I feel good do you see that one I landed clean on his face I think we all terrible shut the [ __ ] up for once in your [ __ ] life shut the [ __ ] up Sean's doing half punches on him shut up I'll act like uh no don't act like bro I'm just I'm putting in work all right how this how you when you [ __ ] beat the old wash UFC fighters everybody comments you're fighting old was UFC fighters what do you think 10s I think they're right in in round two round two round two oh got him [ __ ] oh [Music] [ __ ] hey put that hey that that's a that's going to be a 10 count can't get me by the that's going to be a 10 count that's going to be a 10 count next time back in the just there going to be a 10 count next time get in there give me real quick get him with some you thank you perfect okay BL I'm going to need to see some more one two back to your corner white Corner neutral Corner 5 6 seven eight n look at me thank you bro come on you want to fight do you want to fight when I do you want to fight yes yeah wait wait time back in wake up time time time time time I promise okay it's to the floor the rules of transfer to MMA tap tap tap he's St he's T he's ta all right I block out all right you're good to go wait wait the fight was over get the [ __ ] out of the ring oh it's over it's over it's over it's over go you got it's over it's over it's over [Music]	for four years and [ __ ] that he's been doing the massive fights the fights I get excited for there's a few UFC fights the high the big big fights that I get excited for but every time you fought even when uh Logan fought Floyd I was [ __ ] like excited like all fight week so i' I've been inspired from what you've done from a business side from the boxing side they even just start so not late but for a boxer but these boxers start when they're [ __ ] three four years old like Ryan and tank like they're young buck the Tik Tac I sent you of Devon Haney's debut fight yeah it's wild he was fighting a five foot Mexican in a in a bar was it Dante bro if I show you this [ __ ] oh no I did see that I did see that I did see that when you started even seeing that first video fighting Anderson Silva six fights in bro like do you know how insane that is he's one of the greatest correct me if I'm wrong UFC Strikers in history yeah 100% so does that make me one of the greatest UFC Strikers and one of the greatest wrestlers cuz wood but Ben ask was but Nate Diaz is ducking me in MMA oh am crazy I am weak that's a sick fight MMA I I wish it was that would happened right after	8	9	6	for four years and that he's been doing the massive fights the fights 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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXPZ1KzdpsY	4,103	mXPZ1KzdpsY	2024-06-20 00:00:00	well well well ladies and gentlemen do we have a special episode for you today none other than sugar Shan om Ali the current UFC bantamweight champion a legend in his own right this episode was off the cusp we were a little turned up Jasper was really really drunk so we weren't really prepared for this at all the conversations definitely got wild and obviously as you guys have seen over maybe the past week or so we launched a new company called w am men's carine in Walmart this company is so near and dear to my heart and I partnered with Shawn to bring this Vision to life amongst other celebrities artists and athletes that we are announcing over the next couple of weeks here get your w at Walmart it is very very very very very good stuff and yes you heard the news I am fighting Mike Perry on July 20th it is going down I'm still fighting Mike Tyson November 15th that is happening but I'm staying active knocking out Mike Perry on July 20th and I'm excited for y'all to listen to this episode and he the vision of w how it all came together and how Shawn got involved and then everything to do with Shawn's career this podcast has been a long time coming but prepare yourself for some idiocracy per usual uh this is [ __ ] with Jake Paul we have a secret handshake check it out AC let me get that stop playing mean yeah we created that because we actually have so many things to get into here this has been a long time coming Jasper did bring up something and the reason W was created was because the other products in the category had harmful dyes parabens sulfates hormone disruptors and so we wanted to create the better for you vitamin infused product and and Sean's a co-owner just signed today yesterday for the show but we we'll get into all of that we we've been you know bringing sea on for like we've been talking for like a month and a half yes sir yes sir um it is currently May we've been doing a lot of shoots this podcast will probably come out at post W launch you can get I'm so drunk I'm sorry y'all you can get it in uh Walmart every Walmart you in Paca Walmart get it in you in Pensacola it's in Walmart in Kentucky Walmart Walmart so basically uh we we brought in the greatest people in the world to help build W and Sean is one of those people but dialing everything back we will get into the company the body washes how this all came about but uh we've been wanting to do this podcast and thanks for joining us BR hey guys hey thanks for joining us right did you uh yeah I did you sh for an hour bro did you did you do do we know do we set the stage of the day and the fact that Jasper's slash right now okay cool y drunk is a [ __ ] y like double drunk yep yep yep you drunk yeah all that so um but just winding everything back uh I think we've been friends for a long time in fact you were the first guest on this show oh [ __ ] crazy Zoom crazy that's right that's right that's right the first ever episode you zoomed in and that's crazy we're thankful we're thankful for our friendship and it's pretty cool that now we're here again today uh getting less views than before and that's fire that's it congratulations less views we're not we're not it was it was a joke it was a joke if you watching this please like and comment cuz we falling off right now but man by the time this comes out you're going to be getting ready for me RAB how do you say his name I don't remember morab is iTab or or I don't know me that's got to be it me but you got to say it with the emphasis look meab mirab meab meab there you go there you go so yeah I should be getting ready hopefully I ain't got nothing scheduled hopefully uh you know Uncle Dana will call me say hey buddy you want to fight in in here and there and there and then I'm d b boom and that that's how that works what's up with everybody on your body though everybody talking [ __ ] even people youat I wanted to bring up yeah and he's like saying like he's trying to post about you even yesterday it is weird but when you concuss someone you know what I just say they don't think as well as they used to so I think he's still concussed and he's a little confused because he's talking [ __ ] still he not in his right mind because I can just throw up another post go because it's a throwback Thursday it's a throwback Friday do you think do you think people don't respect you enough cuz I I see that as your friend an unbiased like they just see social media and podcasts and the the hair and stuff like that and then they just sh week but I [ __ ] with you I appr that um I don't think it is well you can't you know I think it's fine I think you're jealous I ain't going to lie I got some inches under here let's smell that hair you can smell my [ __ ] must who I do think I feel a little bit disrespected as the champ but I think that last fight against Che kind of you know shut a little bit of people up canny go five rounds Cheeto beat me before the Alo fight um shut a lot of people up canny grapple didn't have to Grapple cuz he couldn't take me down yeah Alo couldn't take you down I think that was the biggest thing where they were like yo that's his weakness like yeah wrestle him down and then he just proved everyone wrong that's what's so interesting about this morab fight is he's supposedly well he is he's [ __ ] good at wrestling he's really really good at wrestling he's boring as [ __ ] and no one will there won't be one comment saying yeah right he's actually kind of fun not one person I'm com won I'm com you can I ask you something would you put yourself in your own top five Strikers in the UFC oh I'm yeah yo easily who's your Mount Rushmore strikker well I I mean I would unbiasedly I would put him as number one because adna is in like top three but he also like got beat by put that [ __ ] down boy he did uh bro I'm up there I'm up there Max is really good Max super his striking that's a good top five there that's four me Max Elia adaga uh I'm sure I'm missing some your with a one would it be that's that's a minus one Mount rmore is four yeah but I only got four but if you throw the five in it's a plus one isn't there only four yeah but but you ready to throw the five up I'm four all right that's my more but yeah once again uh this is a [ __ ] ass podcast so we apologize hey but something something you just touched on you talked about Fighters being fun and interesting how much and you're you're a superstar how much of you being a superstar how much of any fighter being a superstar comes down to them being fun and interesting as you are and how much of it comes down to their actual fighting good question uh well who's a super who who obviously Connor comes to mind I think he's he's a character he's fun he's interesting who else comes to mind is like a superstar I would say Izzy gives that off I think he's an interesting guy other than that there's not like a ton of fun like Ryan Garcia is doing a really good job right now of being [ __ ] interesting being a character uh I think that's fentel I think it's drugs as well I wouldn't deny that but he's still making people interested in Ryan versus Devon Haney was an interesting fight not because Devon Haney that dude's boring as [ __ ] you think he did them roids no I don't think Ryan did I think Devon needs to take that L he being a [ __ ] about I think the craziest [ __ ] you said to me and like I don't even know if we want to put this in there or bring it up but we we can always remove it but uh because of your your situation with the ostarine and you said to me like and it I like fully felt your energy you're like I swear on my daughter's life I never did that and you got popped for it yeah same thing happened uh to Ryan right now he popped for aost the low super low level a some [ __ ] like a trillionth of a gr the same thing happened to me uh so when that came out with Ryan like I truly truly didn't believe he took anything because it was the same [ __ ] and it happens to a lot of [ __ ] ostarine happens to how does that happen it's called the tainted supplement so if you're taking anything that has protein in it that's not third party tested uh could not just protein any kind of supplement that's not third party tested it's either NSF or there's a bunch of different third party tests but if you're not if you're taking something that doesn't have that there's chances there could be something in it but austram people pop for that all the time my case was not that big of a deal cuz I wasn't as huge of a star as I am now but it still was like a big deal because of my name the reason it's going so crazy right now is because Ryan G is a superstar so people are freaking out but it happens to a lot of athletes I just before we move past it I just on that Superstar topic how is that is that Superstar factor that that someone like you has someone like Ryan has someone like Connor has is it something you're born with or is it is it a practice is it something you can learn and do you sit back and like think like oh how can I go viral today how can I I think it's both I think you have to want to be a superstar there's some guys in the UFC like I want to make more money I want this I want that but they don't really want to be a superstar you you got to want it you got to you got to have some kind of vision a long time before well and and also like who you are as a person you have to have that like Fire Within still though like before you got into want famous I want to be in the NFL I want to be NBA I wanted to be a [ __ ] athlete when I was young was instilled I was just for whatever reason I wanted to make it when I was young I'm from H in Montana like small ass can I ask you something what's your opinion on like the take b nickel takes like where he's like super friendly and humble and like I think he's a sweet ass [ __ ] they love him but like bro that [ __ ] pisses me off I think that [ __ ] is cool too n like you're a hum like [ __ ] talk your [ __ ] you're what 670 like bro talk your [ __ ] like it it kind of bores me no I get yeah I mean that's that's some people's opinion is like he's too nice too humble too that but he's being himself um but he's also super young in the sport I think he and he's still pretty what is he 28 you're in a sport of War if I was playing like [ __ ] Cricket I would be like yeah like but that's that's the thing is for for for a character like him what it seems like is that's what he's in is the sport of war and that's it he's not in the sport of entertainment he's a nice ass sweetheart get there is some people that that understand both sides of things but I also have respect for and I see when someone's that's strictly in the sport of if I play chess with you I'm going to be like good game and I'm going to shake your hand I talk [ __ ] be F ass to a PO it I'm going to be like [ __ ] you you need to get better at whatever you're doing dial dialing it back a little bit um to the aost stream thing I think it's like what do you think about Conor tweeting still at like 3:00 a.m. like coked out he he he he sent shots at me and Ryan talking [ __ ] but it's it's crazy coming from Connor who literally got out of the usada pool to do steroid like legit steroids so it's kind of wild and I was the biggest Connor fan for a long time in the last couple weeks ever since he sent that wasn't even a couple weeks ago probably a week ago I've been trying to hate him I've been trying to be like [ __ ] you Connor but I can't I love Connor I it's like I am excited for his fight coming up I'm excited I want you know I'm all about it what's the fight is it Chandler Chandler in June it's going to be big they just been trying to do it for a long time so I didn't know if it still still I think officially I think it's I think I think the craziest part about it is what like eight weeks before a fight that he's still like coked and drunk out of his mind who you got though who that's a good it is crazy that he still like he tweeted that deleted like 20 minutes later he was definitely [ __ ] up on well that's what I was going to say we can't just Grace past that do you is that that's a that's a bold thing to say do you you know he's on coke is that a is that are you [ __ ] gills I don't know anything but I know for certain that he's brother like look at the time of the tweets and look at what he's saying like also and he's like known for this simar tweets yeah yeah I don't know just manic brother I think he is I do think Ryan is I think he when he said he was playing into it a little bit I I think he's kind of using that I think he's [ __ ] crazy what what what would happen if you and Ryan boxed that's I mean there's only one way to find out he has a lot better chances of beating me in a boxing match than he does in a real fight keep up I do I I [ __ ] I truly believe in myself that's how I got to the [ __ ] position I'm in right now I can box I can throw hands um I don't think it'd be easy by any means I do think it's possible I beat him I'm not saying my my odds are great but I do believe I could beat Ryan Bo if there was anybody you could box for your first boxing match debut who are you Bo give an easy fight give me Deon Haney you give [Laughter] me honest answer uh I mean if we're I I would say Floyd if I Pi if I could sit here and pick who I box first boxing fight I pick Floyd because it would be the biggest most crazy most legendary fight maybe not most legendary some people for me okay but outside of that on a skill based level oh I I could hang with some good [ __ ] pro boxers I'm undefeated in boxing you think you think if you and uh ilot boxed that' be ilot is very very [ __ ] skilled boxing that's an interesting question so who what what professional boxer would you equate your PA Mike Tyson I know of Devon Haney now because Ryan Garcia beat him uh dvon Davis he's really short I know him um maybe smacking [ __ ] up though he does he that little guy he can't he can't ride roll coasters though that is true so there's a there's a tradeoff like Cruz fight he was riding a roller coaster no like I'm talking about like at the fair oh no you know like there there's a trade-off in life you know where things get weird it's like it's like yo he's really good but you can't even just hit Dante fan brother can't even ride the top not a Dante fan that's not what I'm wait what did what did I say to say I'm not a you didn't say I mean I don't think he knows that it's a short joke I don't think he picked up on you want me tell him I was joking shut the [ __ ] up I get I say that was a joke I'm what are you trying to say I'm but are you trying to insinuate that I'm short no honestly you're probably what five you're 5'9 you're like 5' seven and a half stop doing stop doing it stop doing that cuz [ __ ] is going to see this and be like he's 5'6 actually if you watching this and you think I'm 5'6 and you want to try me in person please any [ __ ] who see me out I'm punching your [ __ ] out I'm like 5'9 on a good day when when I'm lying to women I'm 5'10 for sure who's gonna ID me I'm wearing forces I'm a [ __ ] liar all right so now for the truth jakee he's like what like he's 5 No but don't do that bro all right all right we won't we'll cut that out like yeah n don't cut it out n don't see me and see these but you know dvon is 5'5 legit that's cool bro I know but is that not short just be honest is that five five short for a grown man for a grown man is that short you can be a fan I'm not I'm a fan of javante and he's five that's a little little bro all right the joke went over his head anyways so the short joke [ __ ] is trying to play me like I'm short no no no we're we're not we're not you're [ __ ] tall all right let's pivot yeah so um SI yeah sh shout out to the shout out to the pivot but but yeah like Jasper's a little riled up things are on edge he's a little he's a little turned up it's been a long day a long two days we've been shooting uh because we have a new [ __ ] company did we say we talk about that yet I we said in the beginning raise your arms up [ __ ] goed [ __ ] goed shout out to w a fun few days it's been a fun few days days you're going to see the content rolling out um but you speaking of but Ruby Rose did a good job oh my God I wanted to bite that M listen anyway if you're near wmart if you're watching this right now I don't give a [ __ ] what you're doing you could be taking care of your kid you could be taking care of your elderly parents [ __ ] them go to Walmart June 1st Nationwide I don't care if you in Pensacola you in Massachusetts all in places that sound [ __ ] stupid there's a Walmart there and you go there it's a better for you product vitamin ifuse number [ __ ] one yeah no basically I I think dialing back like the business story of it because you're also like a very smart businessman intellectual doing everything you do in and outside of the Ring which a lot of people don't have which contributes to you being uh the biggest in my opinion the biggest UFC star um but yeah we we basically I guess this is the podcast where we tell people where W came from but um we started building this company like a year and a half ago and really saw how all these other companies like as we move into better for you products and less harmful products we saw how the leaders in the space didn't have the best formulas didn't have the best manufacturing had all of these harmful substances in it and we're also brands from when I was like 9 years old I don't want to list names but they're still like having all the Shelf space in stores and I was just like this is wild like this is boring this is lame the the the we need something new we need something that's better uh males have vitamin uh deficiencies like crazy especially with magnesium Jasper just can't get enough of it uh especially with magnesium um and biotin is in the body wash uh vitamin E one two of the best vitamins for your skin and hair um but as The Story Goes long story short we we come up with this brand that represents so many things um but I think winning in everyday life whether you're the valedictorian whether you are the high school jock whether you're philanthropist now you have a product that you can embody and wear every single day that's increasing your vitamin intake that is less harmful to you that's where the idea came from and just being the winning formula in category uh went to Walmart pitched them the whole idea they [ __ ] loved it helped us build the brand even and come up with the scent profiles and all the things that are the the most popular um and this has been something I've wanted to do for so long we had to bring in the best people to be a part of it the winners in their category and that's number one Numero Uno sha Ali here um and he instantly saw the vision and already in the past couple of days it's been like super fun filming all the content behind yeah I was pumped when you [ __ ] called me appreciate you thinking of me and uh excited to help grow this business [ __ ] it's needed it's needed we're going to take over the whole bathroom you know tooed if you [ __ ] with the dogs and cows and chickens dog in you I know what I got that dog in me and I use it so be dog free baby am I missing anything with that no I think that was great the one the one thing I would touch on and you did in a way but it's it is body wash it is body spray it is deodorant but it also is there's an ethos that stands behind this brand which is the ethos that you stand for and it's the ethos that you stand for and the ethos that you stand for and the one that I stand for if I say ethos again I'm GNA start stumbling over my words but it's it's it's like you said it it doesn't the winners in life aren't just you you're on a big stage in life you're you're you're crushing it in every aspect financially you're a star you're leading your sport that's awesome on every [ __ ] level it's it's an encouragement to to young men all around the world to [ __ ] get up off their ass and get sh it don't matter if you score high on a test you whatever the [ __ ] it is that you do well maybe not so it matters what the [ __ ] you do but it also doesn't matter what the [ __ ] you do anybody is a winner as long as you put in the work and you have the will to win and I love it I I would say that's wrong I would say that not anybody is a winner and I think that's something that the brand also stands for like you really got to win you got to as you have the will to win no I'm just saying I think that's an important point cuz we live in a world today where a lot of people think everybody can be a winner that's not true if you Los you might be a loser and if you're a loser the good news is there's a hidden l in the logo actually we'll trace it for you with our graphic design team there's a hidden l in the logo because and I I I wanted to make sure that was was a thing because the biggest loss of my life turned out to be the biggest W in my life and I always had the saying like two L's make a w and when I lost to Tommy Fury it was embarrassing all these things but I realized I wasn't focused I wasn't as locked in as I could be the team around me from a boxing standpoint wasn't good I was having personal issues with relationships and all of these things that I had to shed and grow from and I grew into this new and completely different person but I wouldn't have done that if I didn't lose on the biggest stage possible and I think that was part of the ethos ethos ethos ethos of the brand was to encourage people that in their lowest moments to turn those into into their biggest W's eventually when Jake just said that the biggest loss of his life ended up being the biggest W of his life you said same yeah yeah same what what was that story for supposedly lost for lost to Cheeto back in 2020 August it it was I mean it sucked at the time but I it didn't suck too bad because I was like okay I didn't lose because I you know and it was different I wasn't I mean I was focused everything went good training camp everything was good but I was like that sucks I'm goingon to get that back someday when the time is right and then my last fight two two months ago in Miami headline I'm the champ defending my belt against that same guy how rewarding was that three and a half years later August three and a half years later boom beat his ass as a fan of yours it made it so sweet because of all the doubters that constantly like put you down and didn't believe in you and said he was going to destroy you and then you he literally like you embarrass him that was a performance of a life you embarrassed the [ __ ] out of him and I think that's literally a prime example of turning l l into into a w and I really that's what that's where the hidden l in the brand in the logo is um and representing that every single day when you see these products in your bathroom and when we say we have a saying it's not just a product it's a lifestyle absolutely trademarked Incorporated All Rights Reserved 2024 brother uh but but yeah man it's it's an honor to have you a part of this and uh we we really made what we think are the best products on the market from the body wash being exfoliating vitamin infused to the body spray what we found out is a lot of these fragrances like you get like these high-end designer brands that have like $500 colognes turns out it only cost them a dollar to make that and they're literally making like $499 on top of that so we had a fine fragrance house is what these places are called and we got the super expensive scents and gave it to people to what they're worth like we're not trying to these products are super super affordable and I think it's so funny because that's the world we live in where like you just label something and get like a European girl to go this is one of the lower priced men's care products on the market yeah if I'm not mistaken and it's it's the $500 fragrance in the affordable bottle because we want everyone we've been using a body wash in the past two days since we got the samples after the shoot and I personally want to say I got the in there you could bleep it out whatever you want to do W's winning n b genuinely that's that's the saying is the it's winning formula cuz it really is like it really is if if we're going to call our company [ __ ] W it has to be the best we the winners winning product indeed indeed winning customers all that type of [ __ ] indeed better Derek today he's just got a punch I'm not Li I talked to him before he left he wants to punch you up bro he's got a punchable face I like him though it's weird it's like God I like that guy but I want [ __ ] KO pick him up and like it's okay boom one more to the liing me earlier and I'm just letting you know don't shoot the messenger on God he said he wants to get in the ring with you I can call him really he oh yeah he he you want to call him yeah where is he at is wait uh no call no call he's coming up oh um he's talking smack he said he actually wants a spar I swear to God he said he wants to get percentage should I go you guys I literally out let that's crazy timeing saying talk [ __ ] to my face if you're going to talk [ __ ] that's crazy timing what were you saying they were telling me you want to get in the ring and Spar bit or they didn't say Spar they said fight yeah I'm down to do either but uh yeah no I'm just sick of the [ __ ] [ __ ] you've been saying on your podcast uh you called me you made fun of my weight and you called me gay I did not no I well okay okay you said that he wouldn't ever say that what you got to say what your chest that's what I just [ __ ] said bro I he was like oh if I if stand on it you talking to him you talking to him you ain't talking to me my assistant Sono would would piece you he's never boxed a day he never I'm here to fight your video I'm here to fight you what did I what was the first thing I said to you when when I saw you what was the first thing I said to you that we could fight no I said you look thick wait but when we were talking earlier weren't you saying he's a [ __ ] and you wanted to get a ring with him and all type [ __ ] what I'm saying right now say it then I just said the [ __ ] ring so we can after this we have a ring 2 feet away and he's a [ __ ] and whatever else you was saying to me yeah he's [ __ ] what about my hair say something about my hair I I already said that at the W shoot that you look like you haven't showered in [ __ ] a week okay all right d hey buddy hey hey what's your long-term play not no but see you guys you guys are making me seem crazy you're out of your mind he Derek Dereck go warm up hit the hit the heavy back H the warm up is almost listen legendary as send location dble PIV go warm up hey hey double pivot sit sit I'm not [ __ ] no I I'll sit and talk but I'm not [ __ ] no sit on the floor walk you want to take my seat hey how much how much of what's going on ch ch how much of what's going on is is a character versus like actual delusion how much is a character yeah decent uh I would say there are times where I know what I have to do for my boxing career to like like we all why is he laughing cuz you said career I beat your [ __ ] boy your [ __ ] [ __ ] bro you know what I I recall you did beat I recall calling steiny saying what the [ __ ] was that buddy I love steiny but I do remember watching that and thinking I wasn't proud of that I was not proud of that from steiny and I wish I wish he would come to the gym I wish he'd get in there I wish he'd train a little bit and I wish he would have a rematch but that's on him I've been trying to get the rematch but he's been ding me do you think Derek won he said I won I thought I thought he won I'd have to rewatch but I do think I come on baby the comments have [ __ ] dragged me for months after that [ __ ] 99% of the comments say I lost so please say it one more time Sean no I said it what I said it's like therapy or something no but to answer your question uh we all know uh uh as Fighters there's a side of promotion stop [ __ ] first of all Gus shut the [ __ ] up our our audio guys uh like can't stop laughing is that the facial his facial hair or is what he's saying bro that's bold of you to talk facial hair bro that's bold of you to I'm not Li you look dirty you look like Jeffrey done training right Jesus I train every day but anyway we know like there's two sides of of promotion as well as the actual athletic competition that is Combat Sports so there are times where I might play up a little bit like hey promoting but let him go let him go all right if you if all if you think I'm all promoting that I'll see you in the [ __ ] ring and I'll knock both you either of you out well um well Jake's a [ __ ] fat [ __ ] right now he weighs like 240 so I got I goty I gotta pick my words wisely like he's Jake's 240 I I know I know but like I'm not going to sit here and pick a fight against somebody that's 240 when I'm se's my weight class when I stopped you in one round like just like but when I was getting started out of come this is where I'm at since then I told him he could have somebody tag team I'm down I'm down to fight anybody in this [ __ ] room not one person in this room I'm the best part about this is like uh right after this we I think you're you're down to do like one round or three minutes right I mean I'd prefer 12 but we okay yeah 12 I mean that my biggest advantage in the ring ring is my cardio I do 12 12 okay so no I have a genuine question so five round I'm not I'm not one have I ever said I'm a UFC fighter no I'm just say we can box I'm just saying that's I'm used to five you want to do three we could do that aren't you trying to be a boxer with your [ __ ] Ryan Garcia call he would knock knock your [ __ ] ass out so quickly it wouldn't be close I'm one and0 pro boxing what are you actually I saw that video I saw video I'm also want to know thank you officially hey they count that's real commiss but uh I didn't mean I didn't mean to take I didn't mean to take over the pot I just wanted to a couple you definitely didn't yeah okay I try I'm trying to help you no we love you go warm up yeah yeah go warm up the bags don't warm up too much though don't get tired how much do you wa right now without Timberlands and jean shorts on high 120 low 13 no without lying though okay that [ __ ] is you think you got you got him one round I think I could beat him I think I can beat him I I think I could handicap myself to three just put on one glove I could do that what do you think actually happens now when you go downstairs and he gets in that ring like what's his plan that's what I don't get about him but that's why it's that's do me a favor that's why he's Cloud it up because love [ __ ] up [ __ ] he's going he's going to try to Yap he's going to try to talk please just go 100% yeah no actually actually please go 100% if he signs a consent form we'll have him no we've already got like multiple consent forms for better media with like death wavers [ __ ] no no no but he needs it he needs that I'll go like 40 no go like 75 Sean I'm I'm going to be honest bro don't even go 20% he's the nice [ __ ] bro don't do that bro you want him to go 100% no no to be honest but just like work with him and then just like maybe just just like a really good punching and then he'll give up 75% uh I'm nervous man I'm shaking for Derek yeah yeah that's good I understand that there a couple flinches if you Flinch hard enough the the wind coming off you will put him down let him walk you down and bait him boom sleeping what's your next upcoming fight a maraba jaaba and when is that uh not nothing yet I'm hoping for September maybe October maybe November maybe December I'm F ready to go baby what if it was next month I wouldn't be ready to go I like I like 10 to 12 weeks 10 to 12 he likes eight I mean I I normally do like 10 yeah just like but I've been super the first few weeks are [ __ ] pre-amps this Camp I'm channeling my Ryan Garcia would you ever do a Ryan Garcia regiment during Camp drink and smoke every night you do a little I I probably yeah I'm not actually doing that for the people out there he's locked in clocked in locked in locked in ready to go yeah May 20th we start but by the time the people see this it'll be uh June or something like that that is crazy you're fighting Mike that you fought Ben asran wrestler good good [ __ ] UFC was really good UF bit Tyron Woodley twice Anderson Silva knockout of the year with Nate Robinson can't forget about deji deji the the the goat do we say Gibb or is that like that's just crazy resume like literally [ __ ] C by way thank you Gib cuz we had a really good party after he knocked you the [ __ ] out who W we're skipping two professional boxers this always no no the recent ones this always happens I'm trying to just think cuz two cuz this is what everybody asked for this is what everybody asked for who who are the two professional boxers you fighted you got to name them Andre August and Ryan Borland go okay people don't people are like fight a pro boxer and then I do and then they're like that was boring as a man of combat he what were 10 and one nine and one nine and one what is your take on his [ __ ] all of his fights and who he's fighting in the competition dude I've been excited as [ __ ] since I started I remember you I remember the first time I watched was the Nate Robinson I watched that one at home and then uh I don't remember what it was after that but I remember watching Ben Asam in Atlanta I think that was the first time we actually met was right after the fight I think we hugged I was like y I picked you up you carried me back to the locker room that it was love at first sight that was crazy actually yeah actually I [ __ ] with him we became best friends like a couple days later you going to leave me hanging no no I would it's my eyebrow but uh yeah no I think he's obviously super skilled I think it's and I I it's inspired me even in the position I'm at UFC World Champ sexy you know what I mean like tall dark handsome TR inspired me just business the business uh side of things that you've done I've always thought putting on massive fight that's why I'm such a huge Conor fan cuz the pay-per-views he's done is so [ __ ] he's been fighting for four years and [ __ ] that he's been doing the massive fights the fights I get excited for there's a few UFC fights the high the big big fights that I get excited for but every time you fought even when uh Logan fought Floyd I was [ __ ] like excited like all fight week so i' I've been inspired from what you've done from a business side from the boxing side they even just start so not late but for a boxer but these boxers start when they're [ __ ] three four years old like Ryan and tank like they're young buck the Tik Tac I sent you of Devon Haney's debut fight yeah it's wild he was fighting a five foot Mexican in a in a bar was it Dante bro if I show you this [ __ ] oh no I did see that I did see that I did see that when you started even seeing that first video fighting Anderson Silva six fights in bro like do you know how insane that is he's one of the greatest correct me if I'm wrong UFC Strikers in history yeah 100% so does that make me one of the greatest UFC Strikers and one of the greatest wrestlers cuz wood but Ben ask was but Nate Diaz is ducking me in MMA oh am crazy I am weak that's a sick fight MMA I I wish it was that would happened right after the boxing same he's actually ducking it which is why it's crazy because he's not he's not in UFC no but we we upped it to 15 million damn that's crazy though that would be a I like Nate Diaz but that would be such a fun buildup he actually doesn't want to do it all Sean how do you genuinely Jake's not here it's me and you in a room actually how do you see that fight going for Jake what MMA him you're not here J for Nate in MMA keep it a bean God it's it's so hard to you're a big [ __ ] right now on what weight would it be5 185 I don't hate I don't I it's not a it's a winable fight for you I really do think that but Nate is so [ __ ] you would have to do what I did against aljo and morab do not let that [ __ ] grab you not that you can't wrestle cuz I know you can wrestle but once he starts grabbing you and doing Jiu-Jitsu if he gets on top his little he likes his little trips it would be hard for you to win I feel like if he if he started grappling just pure Jiu-Jitsu if it let's be real if it goes to the floor is he [ __ ] if he's on his back Nate's not like a super strong guy so if you learn how to like I mean I'm sure you know how to get up to a single legegg stuff like that but then you start getting your neck grabbed I don't know how much Jiu-Jitsu you know I mean Nate's a [ __ ] high Lev black belt um if you could keep it standing 100% there's winnable ways there if he if he went to the ground feel like he might be able to grab your neck no that that's exactly how I feel about it if I don't get guillotined yeah then I win the fight because even if he was on top take your back but even if he was on top of me I would just throw him off of me cuz he's also the weakest puncher I've ever fought like when he was hitting me I was I almost like started laughing I'm I'm not even saying this to talk [ __ ] out of everyone I've sparred in my whole entire life and everyone I fought his punches are even me we I don't think you ever landed a punch on me is that true well that's not true so I don't anyone no I'm literally not even talking [ __ ] which is why I think it's funny that he dropped Connor and [ __ ] cuz it's just like how Conor with like to the ground yeah like with a straight left hand yeah which is crazy like I I'm not just talking [ __ ] when I say that and I've told you I've literally told you this you told me this after the fight yeah I was like he is the weakest puncher I've ever fought in my life who's who's the weakest puncher you've ever you've ever come to face um there I mean there's been so many fights where I later didn't even get hit um uh does that like make you jaded at all when you get into a fight and you don't really get love that [ __ ] I prefer not to get hit at all but like if I was you and I wasn't get hit at all I'd probably work less no no no no I I know I don't get hit because I work that hard so if I didn't work hard I know I'd probably get hit I'm just a lazy [ __ ] so so here you are on top of the world we're launching [ __ ] W going to be a billion dollar business [ __ ] you I always forget uh UFC champ accomplishing all your goals what do you want next uh what are what is the threeyear fiveyear for Sean I I truly do want to get a boxing fight I'm not I'm not super set on that to where like I'm like going to be [ __ ] if it doesn't happen I do think it'll be interesting especially if I go out there knock morab out Ryan does his thing I think there's a [ __ ] sweet fight there if it doesn't happen not that worried about it want to go out there beat morab I'd like to you know if Max Max and Elia fight I would like to fight go move up to 45 fight the winner of that um you know maybe have three to five maybe have a few more kids definitely want another little baby I love kids my fite pump him out shout out to Danny who's your top pick in a boxing fight though if you if you could choose your Ryan now was like the I mean what he after dvon Beat Ryan I was like javante then Ryan goes out there does his thing really though I think Dante do you is that is that not a big [ __ ] leap Ryan like you said before he's been doing this his whole life one thing that's been proven is that the crossover it's it's not a good return Fury he did his thing okay the excep is the exception we've seen it with okay but then Anthony Joshua put his ass t was crazy super night night he was I'm I'm here for big fights like I wanted to get into the UFC and I wanted to make big fights watching Conor versus Floyd I'm like that [ __ ] happened really happened hey you versus Derek that could be as big as Connor in Floyd but no but I I think the craziest [ __ ] about Conor versus Floyd is that overall it was a W for everyone involved so there's certain fights where it just like doesn't matter what happens that's the world we live in yeah I mean UFC told me they said if the if the fight's big enough and it'll make the UFC money they'll do it what means more to you your your your record being pre or the amount of money you're making all right let me ask you something it's about to get real J's drunk Jasper's drunk as [ __ ] y record or money [ __ ] it depends the Gap like like the gap of money if it's like an extra 10 15 20 million but I lose a couple important fights probably not you just take like 150 million I'll be like like [ __ ] my record baby yeah it depends on the gap of money Jake Paul is not here right now just like a Mayweather Conor McGregor you taking that fight ver Jake yeah no he's my buddy I could I mean I don't I don't even no I no funny no there's you know what's funny is always in my Snapchat story once once a day pretty much someone says we knock out Jake Paul like there's every sing all the time for so long people just want to see me get [ __ ] is good though that's like the thing yeah but I'm sensitive it is funny though people [ __ ] love to hate confidence the craziest thing though actually about both of you like I met you very recently like I didn't realize you're as like normal as you are I don't know why I thought you violent like you guys are both like very goofy mellow and stupid and c and and awesome it's like the greatest thing ever like I couldn't believe when I met you you're like one of us like yeah I wouldn't think you're a [ __ ] yeah one of the coolest people in the world for sure yeah but not a lot of people uh can like I don't know we have like a weird it's hard toes Meat Heads I'm like this the this my dog I think it's a little bit of dark humor too it's like some [ __ ] up [ __ ] that we say off camera [ __ ] sometimes but I think it's like there's a certain yeah like that's how my whole group is back home it's like we all just we're all just kind of [ __ ] dumb I'm smart but like they're dumb well someone commented like yo Jake Paul's the dumbest genius in the world and I was just like I say that [ __ ] all the time you wed up the other day and I was like this is the most genius dumbass in the world no jokes Hey Brother chill buddy trying to get me cancelled no what how old are you 23 are you really yeah no you're not he's not is he what do you think think what did you think Oh no you're 267 27 what did you think he was I thought he was older I thought he was like 27 26 yeah a niggaer mature was that ladies you got a boo you got a girl you just be slanging she timeout right now I don't really talk about she don't time out it's a little tricky she not taking care of herself what do you guys think about Tom Brady R you watch it yeah they kept comp panning to you every 5 Seconds bro I swear there's a huge camer sitting there the whole time but it's cool to see Netflix going hard like that cuz they went hard they swing that meat around huha yeah let's pivot yeah just sorry about him I'm drunk man not yeah but but it was it was great it wasar they should have got rid of most of the football players going up there yeah there's a couple ones Ben afflac is that who that was on there that was wild that was so weird that was so weird it was cool to see how [ __ ] less sensitive people are becoming I feel like feel like it's recently like there's a big push back I think people got sick of it we went super super super PC for a long time people were like wait a second we like being able to say what we want to say I saw kill Tony say oh type of crazy [ __ ] on there that watch every [ __ ] Monday you were on kill Tony yeah how old are you actually buddy I'm a comedian Budd full time no yeah I was on that I was nervous as hell though I was like just being it's a live I do podcast once a week like me and Tim do our podcast every [ __ ] week but to be there in front of an audience live it's weird it's a different kind of well so you say Tim but let's let's talk about actually the fact that you get trained by by one of the greatest boxers of all time it's really that's something what's happened like that's crazy working with Canelo as your as your coach that's what I'm saying people don't going to be Ryan but like yeah that is true I never even thought about that for did you even know that this guy proba even know that that orange [ __ ] is nice wait will I get cancelled by the ginger community no you're black oh no my dad my dad's Ginger and I'm I'm like this [ __ ] is ginger bro he be shaving he be shaving his beard and I zoom in zoom in it's it's slightly orange so I'm a quarter ginger on South Park they made fun of Gingers and that [ __ ] made the news I [ __ ] with the ginger people but like y'all [ __ ] you like redhead girls oh yeah was Super Soaker but anyway yeah like y'all [ __ ] is orange and that's okay but back to you one of y'all that's not drunk I got a question cuz this guy clipped out a lot did Tim actually like you guys about him like saying to fight that was yeah that was real Tim always be talking [ __ ] to the like he's been doing that for so long so what happened he just talk I mean he just he Alo the knee's coming Alo you got to shoot Alo watch out for this like he's been saying that since I've been in the UFC like my debut vers terion where he was talking [ __ ] to terion too and uh he just does it every fight but this happened to just be crazy timing to like Tim you got Tim like alre you got to go and like literally he he like that's when he threw that left hand or whatever stepped into Southpaw and uh or stepped into Orthodox and got dropped it was it was funny the timing because he's like Al you got to go I don't I truly don't think that's why that's not why Alo went I bet you could I bet Alo didn't even hear that but Tim's always chirping and stuff but people on the internet are [ __ ] mad about that a lot of them actually like it I'll say majority of people are thinking that's the funniest [ __ ] ever there's a couple [ __ ] that are like you should be banned think it's a fight would you run the alra fight back or one and done never I like that why would I yeah am I supposed to top that you know what I'm saying I got love for Alo we had him on the show and he he seems like a good dude I actually don't mind Alo I does that ever happen where like you'll have a personal relationship with someone personal runin with them and it's all great but then now all of a sudden you have to fight each other I've never had I've not of running with someone that's been like uh more than like I've ran into aljo morab at the UFC I'm like hey what's up talk to him a little bit you know nothing no ill will um but I haven't had like a run with someone I actually lik them mhm and then at the fight them so you're not friends with any any other UFC fighters oh I have a there's there's a couple guys in my in my weight class that I train with at the lab that are like climbing the r uh ladders what happened with uh the 125 pounder I I don't even know his name and I'm not I'm just not like yeah what's his name I Alexander pania bro this story is actually kind of funny so 2016 I think it was it was like 3 and0 4 and0 and I was still fighting at like I fought at 125 not too long before that I fought at like 130 which is in a weight class was like so I wasn't like a 155 like I am now I was probably like 14 back then and uh Henry cejudo comes in I'm three or four and0 at the point at this point it comes in with this kid Alexander PTO just won The Ultimate Fighter I think he's got his UFC debut or it's his second UFC fight he's a couple weeks out from his fight I'm [ __ ] the night before me and Tim ripping bongs like hanging out being goofballs and [ __ ] so the next morning so we brought him in for sparring hry sudo brings in Alexander you're 4-0 he's King [ __ ] he he's just won The Ultimate Fighter and so they write the names on on the board who who you're sparring I'm like oh [ __ ] I got Alexander Pantoja versus me for one round one round he has three rounds so you write one one name then usually you you spar with one guy then they go out you spar with a fresh guy they go out spar with the fresh guy that's usually how it works so my name was just up there for one round that's it we Spar one round I didn't know anything about him cuz I I didn't really watch it like that 25 I don't really watch 25ers like that but somebody's like oh [ __ ] that's he a black belt he just won The Ultimate Fighter I was like oh [ __ ] I got to [ __ ] Focus up here first round boom Dro him with a liver kick and I wasn't going to post I record all my rounds I have so many sparring rounds like I wasn't going to post it was and for some reason I don't know why he would talk [ __ ] and bring it up cuz I literally I don't know you know know I don't know if you know how it works but you finish a guy the fight's over right no no did he um so I finished him the first round he hit him boom with the liver I posted the video yesterday and I've had it for a long time I didn't want to post it CU you don't post sparring like that but he just kept bringing it up so boom finished him first round um then uh after the first round round I go to walk out and Henry's over there crying box of Kleenex just like [ __ ] wiping his tears crying we want you for a second round so mad that this little like I was nobody just finished his dude he's in the UFC he's supposed to be the man finish him in the first round so Henry's crying saying he wants another round um so I piece him up again in the second round and I'm I'm dying at this point my lungs are burning I'm not in shape for fight I I'm nowhere near in Camp for a fight and I my lungs are hurting and uh Henry again crying blowing his nose and like I want you for a third and Benson comes in Benson Henderson absolute Legend comes in and was yelling cuz that's his it was the his gym the MMA lab we don't let people come in our gym and make us tired and blah blah blah and I'm [ __ ] just just huffing and puffing I just got done work in this dude for 10 minutes finished him in the first round did I say that liver kick um we'll put the footage I have the foot yeah it's right there insert the footage so third round come out boom piece him up again and he's so I don't know why he keeps bringing up this bringing this up in the media I think it's because people ask him but I don't know why he doesn't just say yeah yeah no no I don't want to talk about it he keeps saying like he's like oh I got in I found his range and [ __ ] I'm like bro you you stopped him in one round stopped him in round one and let him live and continue to fight for round two these delusional uh like wild people are weirdos but the reason I posted cuz he kept bringing it up exactly wait so is he the champ now at 125 yeah okay but why does he still want to talk [ __ ] to you if you got [ __ ] up that's what I'm saying I don't know either either you drop to 125 and get that no I can't drop to 125 that's too much now you're a thick [ __ ] I am a thick but yeah I SP I think it's important for up and cominging Spar uh fighters to record their rounds and watch their rounds not for that this reason you know but just to I've improve so much watching my sparring y I have thousands of rounds maybe not thousands hundreds of rounds from 10 years ago on my on my computer of uh it's like NFL team is watching footage the time [ __ ] 100% got to watch that [ __ ] that's I I have every single round recorded and and again I I don't post sparring either exactly you know put in a highlight video make a vlog boom we're sparring people but it's never like [ __ ] up your guy yeah exactly but Mike Perry honestly like what he's been doing is pretty Fu he went to Bare knuckle that [ __ ] just meant for him bare knuckle fighting it's crazy different going crazy he's doing good he's [ __ ] undefeated over there he's beating some really good guys stay over here [ __ ] [ __ ] only place that you should be getting tickets from is game time.co it's it's the only place I go it is the only place you can possibly go they have 110% price match guarantee that's what we use to get our tickets for the NBA Finals you can get $20 off your first order go to gametime.co JJ a $20 off your first order they're doing a deal specifically for y'all and you could see where your tickets are before you buy them seeing the seats they have all of the these great policies last 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platform there is Mike Paul versus Jake Tyson here's my official prediction tell us and even if even if it's against me like it's not it's not I do think you're going to beat Mike Tyson uh it's crazy that I even saying that out loud right now cuz you're fighting Mike Tyson it's [ __ ] crazy even just when we were walking down the the street today people all genders all ages knew you were fighting Mike Tyson it's such a massive fights live on Netflix which is [ __ ] crazy it's in a stadium which is [ __ ] crazy it is crazy I believe in you I see what you I see what you're doing I see you know that you believe in yourself Mike Tyson is uh hasn't fought in however long it's been so for him to just come up and get a fight be I I'm sure is going to be in as good a shape as he possibly could be in but it's just you know it's it's it's it's not his time right now I love Mike Tyson I never actually met him but I love Mike Tyson I do think Jake's gonna get the job done and I do think eight rounds eight two-minute rounds eight two-minute rounds I believe I believe you could put them away in the later rounds you know five six seven eight I do think you could put it put him down which is crazy to even [ __ ] think you rap yeah that's fire I'm just lazy and inconsistent that's not a w no that sh it is not you start using Brandon yell at him every day but cuz you can actually spit that's fire no but but people know him now from like podcasting they don't know he's a rapper and hurts his soul J sick name Lil jizz what J JZ that's good that's good you should switch your [ __ ] I switch my [ __ ] from come Master to kill Jas bro honestly though that's I think singing rapping spitting is one of the things that if I could switch talents be doing something like that that's good or twerking I ain't going to lie you shook that [ __ ] earlier I got a I got a thing on me you that [ __ ] wiggle a little bit let's let's pivot though cuz yep hit a pivot uh yeah do we have a speaker should we play Jasper's new song or something you got a new one I thought you were lazy some new [ __ ] go ahead play on your phone just put it in the speaker put it in the mic too this the [ __ ] I'm dropping when I'm Indie that sound decent I'm not rapping either I'm yapping that's not going to get you drunk yo I made this beat that's crazy I like the way you look I won't lie you got something I need you my with a fly girl like you doing with no guy a little sh don't really go outside I'm not crazy right place and right time you all smiles and pretty light brown [Music] [Music] like that better if I forget you but I just can't time saying do better and I'm sure you can find that guy that's worth all right cut it cut it cut it that's that's enough that's enough that's enough that's enough for real can't give the whole thing it's not out yet yeah hey good [ __ ] that's fire I'll be rapping though but that's some pop [ __ ] just cuz I can do it so why are you consistent cuz I'm lazy and jaded and and spoiled yeah it's unfortunate maam shout out to the homies for a lot of talented people out there that just are yeah don't smoke crack yo also there there is a parallel there don't do don't do that there's a parallel with the same thing he's talking about I think Fighters probably where it's like you could have all the talent in the world he's got that's why I get so [ __ ] mad at him it's cuz he has all the talent in the world really I get more pissed off than he gets and he could be a superstar but he just is lazy he doesn't put the work in he's not he's not strategic and it is hard when you got when you live in a crib in Puerto Rico right you got chefs and [ __ ] and you fly private with me yeah that's it that's it bro that's it you got to you got get paychecks and [ __ ] y'all got to evict me that's not a bad idea honestly I think we talked about it let's make I was I'm H we had a conversation but I just can't I can't because I love you so much I need you but then I'll probably be more like need you y yeah I guarante and then we you would still have to like fly in once a week to to do the pods and it would be resentment and then I I'll go out like and I'll try to start shooting at y'all oh my God I guarantee I would be in the position I'm in if I if I had money and like had already made it like financially had [ __ ] I wouldn't have made it that's why people think I'm crazy but CC the other side of it is like boom right so I'm from com California same hey shout out my [ __ ] yeah man I was homeless for the first half of my life mom's a drug addict dad's a gang member I've never had anything in my life right and my whole life has been music I dropped out in ninth grade I was like I'm going to make music my dad kicks me out he's like you can't live under this roof like be more like your brothers my brothers are [ __ ] star students one got a full ride scholarship loser all all type of [ __ ] nerd ass [ __ ] all those [ __ ] are fat and unemploy now one dropped out of school a full rise scholarship and is just sitting at home right so boom from having nothing to like me saying I'm going to risk everything that I have in my life to become a music artist and it works I get to a certain place and I'm like damn I did exactly I hit a ceiling right so it's like now I had to recalibrate he got a big record deal and then and then like use I crashed out and became a m addict for four four days a week for 30 like 90 days oh it's not bad but then I moved cuz my homeboy was like you need to move and I was like nah [ __ ] that I made a million I ain't going to move I'm going to maintain this lifestyle I'm a junkie but I'm rich yep I crashed out and was like yeah I need to move lost 60 lbs went to Puerto Rico locked in recalibrated and now I'm ready to be but that's that's here's the problem we run into now is that you've recalibrated and now it's still it's been 6 months the album's supposed to be 6 months ago and we're still waiting for the album that's the problem and that's what you got to work on never too late though let's start it let's get because you're vitamin deficient right yeah yeah cuz like a lot of people can't think straight when they're vitamin deficient and all that a week ago kind of elaborated on that so yeah this isn't therapy um I got shout out Suzie right right huh Susie but she's hot is she not you think my therapist you guys got the same one I could pee and vape on this podcast I got to go pee go pee I could pee yeah I mean I think we I think we end the episode because uh let's wrap it up you can get W available at Walmart anyway if you walk into Walmart whether you with your mom your daddy you by yourself you go in that [ __ ] men body care aisle you buy that and comment down below what you thought of the episode for um us being brain fried over and uh jper but Buzz also comment cuz this coming out when the product releases comment your favorite scent and sent $10,000 right no I'm send you 1,000 I ain't got 10,000 for you but I'll send you 1,000 I'll send someone 10,000 he'll send you 10,000 I'll send you a th000 and I'm going through the comments for sure anyway good luck Charlie and if you got a test soon good luck on that [ __ ] that's what we [Music] do what are those 8 O gloves I want you to know they were talking up there he ain't going easy so be ready all right legit be ready buddy I'm using these bags don't show Too Much don't show we're boxing we're boxing I don't I do that on accident sometimes just know that that might come up just keep your hands up I'm just saying I might throw that up I haven't knocked someone out in a while just cuz my last fight didn't go off it went off five rounds I've been like craving just putting someone's lights out lately it's weird versus your boy better Derek I I hope Sean isn't nice and just [ __ ] him up that's your that's your trainee [ __ ] D all righty folks welcome to your main event of the evening starting out first in the loser corner you have better day with a record of no wins no losses I beat ste's [ __ ] out no anything he is 5'7 120 lbs lost in the mile to better JoJo but he's still delusional in his fighting career and to my left in the winning Corner sponsored by W sugar sha Ali The Undefeated UFC champion of the world it's time to fight bring it to the center we already spoke about the rules in the locker room beforehand give me your glove give me your hand touch gloves I want a clean fair fight no no hits below the waist back to your Corners time you ready judge you ready and fight [Music] [Applause] I'm out of balance or something oh do Dodge that [ __ ] hold on hold on hold on hold [ __ ] come on come on just oh my God one back of the head no no no back of the head four ref didn't see it five six me in the eyes Walk This Way Walk This Way for me he's running Walk This Way for me my car run all right and we're in in that right that's called all right time time time one two that was a that was a slip four up six bro Rizo what the [ __ ] are you doing all right get up SLP all right come on time in come on got come on got you [ __ ] black I'm going to I need to work I need to see some work black UT D somebody said 10 seconds like 8 seconds ago all right great back to your corner back to your corner back to your corner stay in there you're doing good right now this feel good I feel good do you see that one I landed clean on his face I think we all terrible shut the [ __ ] up for once in your [ __ ] life shut the [ __ ] up Sean's doing half punches on him shut up I'll act like uh no don't act like bro I'm just I'm putting in work all right how this how you when you [ __ ] beat the old wash UFC fighters everybody comments you're fighting old was UFC fighters what do you think 10s I think they're right in in round two round two round two oh got him [ __ ] oh [Music] [ __ ] hey put that hey that that's a that's going to be a 10 count can't get me by the that's going to be a 10 count that's going to be a 10 count next time back in the just there going to be a 10 count next time get in there give me real quick get him with some you thank you perfect okay BL I'm going to need to see some more one two back to your corner white Corner neutral Corner 5 6 seven eight n look at me thank you bro come on you want to fight do you want to fight when I do you want to fight yes yeah wait wait time back in wake up time time time time time I promise okay it's to the floor the rules of transfer to MMA tap tap tap he's St he's T he's ta all right I block out all right you're good to go wait wait the fight was over get the [ __ ] out of the ring oh it's over it's over it's over it's over go you got it's over it's over it's over [Music]	the boxing same he's actually ducking it which is why it's crazy because he's not he's not in UFC no but we we upped it to 15 million damn that's crazy though that would be a I like Nate Diaz but that would be such a fun buildup he actually doesn't want to do it all Sean how do you genuinely Jake's not here it's me and you in a room actually how do you see that fight going for Jake what MMA him you're not here J for Nate in MMA keep it a bean God it's it's so hard to you're a big [ __ ] right now on what weight would it be5 185 I don't hate I don't I it's not a it's a winable fight for you I really do think that but Nate is so [ __ ] you would have to do what I did against aljo and morab do not let that [ __ ] grab you not that you can't wrestle cuz I know you can wrestle but once he starts grabbing you and doing Jiu-Jitsu if he gets on top his little he likes his little trips it would be hard for you to win I feel like if he if he started grappling just pure Jiu-Jitsu if it let's be real if it goes to the floor is he [ __ ] if he's on his back Nate's not like a super strong guy so if you learn how	2	8	6	the boxing same he's actually ducking it which is why it's crazy because he's not he's not in UFC no but we we upped it to 15 million damn that's crazy though that would be a I like Nate Diaz but that would be such a fun buildup	how do you genuinely Jake's not here it's me and you in a room actually how do you see that fight going for Jake what MMA him you're not here J for Nate in MMA keep it a bean God it's it's so hard to you're a big [ __ ] right now on what weight would it be5 185 I don't hate I don't I it's not a it's a winable fight for you I really do think that but Nate is so [ __ ] you would have to do what I did against aljo and morab do not let that [ __ ] grab you not that you can't wrestle cuz I know you can wrestle but once he starts grabbing you and doing Jiu-Jitsu if he gets on top his little he likes his little trips it would be hard for you to win I feel like if he if he started grappling just pure Jiu-Jitsu if it let's be real if it goes to the floor is he [ __ ] if he's on his back Nate's not like a super strong guy so if you learn how	8,7,3	2,4,6	8	7	3	2	4	6
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXPZ1KzdpsY	4,103	mXPZ1KzdpsY	2024-06-20 00:00:00	well well well ladies and gentlemen do we have a special episode for you today none other than sugar Shan om Ali the current UFC bantamweight champion a legend in his own right this episode was off the cusp we were a little turned up Jasper was really really drunk so we weren't really prepared for this at all the conversations definitely got wild and obviously as you guys have seen over maybe the past week or so we launched a new company called w am men's carine in Walmart this company is so near and dear to my heart and I partnered with Shawn to bring this Vision to life amongst other celebrities artists and athletes that we are announcing over the next couple of weeks here get your w at Walmart it is very very very very very good stuff and yes you heard the news I am fighting Mike Perry on July 20th it is going down I'm still fighting Mike Tyson November 15th that is happening but I'm staying active knocking out Mike Perry on July 20th and I'm excited for y'all to listen to this episode and he the vision of w how it all came together and how Shawn got involved and then everything to do with Shawn's career this podcast has been a long time coming but prepare yourself for some idiocracy per usual uh this is [ __ ] with Jake Paul we have a secret handshake check it out AC let me get that stop playing mean yeah we created that because we actually have so many things to get into here this has been a long time coming Jasper did bring up something and the reason W was created was because the other products in the category had harmful dyes parabens sulfates hormone disruptors and so we wanted to create the better for you vitamin infused product and and Sean's a co-owner just signed today yesterday for the show but we we'll get into all of that we we've been you know bringing sea on for like we've been talking for like a month and a half yes sir yes sir um it is currently May we've been doing a lot of shoots this podcast will probably come out at post W launch you can get I'm so drunk I'm sorry y'all you can get it in uh Walmart every Walmart you in Paca Walmart get it in you in Pensacola it's in Walmart in Kentucky Walmart Walmart so basically uh we we brought in the greatest people in the world to help build W and Sean is one of those people but dialing everything back we will get into the company the body washes how this all came about but uh we've been wanting to do this podcast and thanks for joining us BR hey guys hey thanks for joining us right did you uh yeah I did you sh for an hour bro did you did you do do we know do we set the stage of the day and the fact that Jasper's slash right now okay cool y drunk is a [ __ ] y like double drunk yep yep yep you drunk yeah all that so um but just winding everything back uh I think we've been friends for a long time in fact you were the first guest on this show oh [ __ ] crazy Zoom crazy that's right that's right that's right the first ever episode you zoomed in and that's crazy we're thankful we're thankful for our friendship and it's pretty cool that now we're here again today uh getting less views than before and that's fire that's it congratulations less views we're not we're not it was it was a joke it was a joke if you watching this please like and comment cuz we falling off right now but man by the time this comes out you're going to be getting ready for me RAB how do you say his name I don't remember morab is iTab or or I don't know me that's got to be it me but you got to say it with the emphasis look meab mirab meab meab there you go there you go so yeah I should be getting ready hopefully I ain't got nothing scheduled hopefully uh you know Uncle Dana will call me say hey buddy you want to fight in in here and there and there and then I'm d b boom and that that's how that works what's up with everybody on your body though everybody talking [ __ ] even people youat I wanted to bring up yeah and he's like saying like he's trying to post about you even yesterday it is weird but when you concuss someone you know what I just say they don't think as well as they used to so I think he's still concussed and he's a little confused because he's talking [ __ ] still he not in his right mind because I can just throw up another post go because it's a throwback Thursday it's a throwback Friday do you think do you think people don't respect you enough cuz I I see that as your friend an unbiased like they just see social media and podcasts and the the hair and stuff like that and then they just sh week but I [ __ ] with you I appr that um I don't think it is well you can't you know I think it's fine I think you're jealous I ain't going to lie I got some inches under here let's smell that hair you can smell my [ __ ] must who I do think I feel a little bit disrespected as the champ but I think that last fight against Che kind of you know shut a little bit of people up canny go five rounds Cheeto beat me before the Alo fight um shut a lot of people up canny grapple didn't have to Grapple cuz he couldn't take me down yeah Alo couldn't take you down I think that was the biggest thing where they were like yo that's his weakness like yeah wrestle him down and then he just proved everyone wrong that's what's so interesting about this morab fight is he's supposedly well he is he's [ __ ] good at wrestling he's really really good at wrestling he's boring as [ __ ] and no one will there won't be one comment saying yeah right he's actually kind of fun not one person I'm com won I'm com you can I ask you something would you put yourself in your own top five Strikers in the UFC oh I'm yeah yo easily who's your Mount Rushmore strikker well I I mean I would unbiasedly I would put him as number one because adna is in like top three but he also like got beat by put that [ __ ] down boy he did uh bro I'm up there I'm up there Max is really good Max super his striking that's a good top five there that's four me Max Elia adaga uh I'm sure I'm missing some your with a one would it be that's that's a minus one Mount rmore is four yeah but I only got four but if you throw the five in it's a plus one isn't there only four yeah but but you ready to throw the five up I'm four all right that's my more but yeah once again uh this is a [ __ ] ass podcast so we apologize hey but something something you just touched on you talked about Fighters being fun and interesting how much and you're you're a superstar how much of you being a superstar how much of any fighter being a superstar comes down to them being fun and interesting as you are and how much of it comes down to their actual fighting good question uh well who's a super who who obviously Connor comes to mind I think he's he's a character he's fun he's interesting who else comes to mind is like a superstar I would say Izzy gives that off I think he's an interesting guy other than that there's not like a ton of fun like Ryan Garcia is doing a really good job right now of being [ __ ] interesting being a character uh I think that's fentel I think it's drugs as well I wouldn't deny that but he's still making people interested in Ryan versus Devon Haney was an interesting fight not because Devon Haney that dude's boring as [ __ ] you think he did them roids no I don't think Ryan did I think Devon needs to take that L he being a [ __ ] about I think the craziest [ __ ] you said to me and like I don't even know if we want to put this in there or bring it up but we we can always remove it but uh because of your your situation with the ostarine and you said to me like and it I like fully felt your energy you're like I swear on my daughter's life I never did that and you got popped for it yeah same thing happened uh to Ryan right now he popped for aost the low super low level a some [ __ ] like a trillionth of a gr the same thing happened to me uh so when that came out with Ryan like I truly truly didn't believe he took anything because it was the same [ __ ] and it happens to a lot of [ __ ] ostarine happens to how does that happen it's called the tainted supplement so if you're taking anything that has protein in it that's not third party tested uh could not just protein any kind of supplement that's not third party tested it's either NSF or there's a bunch of different third party tests but if you're not if you're taking something that doesn't have that there's chances there could be something in it but austram people pop for that all the time my case was not that big of a deal cuz I wasn't as huge of a star as I am now but it still was like a big deal because of my name the reason it's going so crazy right now is because Ryan G is a superstar so people are freaking out but it happens to a lot of athletes I just before we move past it I just on that Superstar topic how is that is that Superstar factor that that someone like you has someone like Ryan has someone like Connor has is it something you're born with or is it is it a practice is it something you can learn and do you sit back and like think like oh how can I go viral today how can I I think it's both I think you have to want to be a superstar there's some guys in the UFC like I want to make more money I want this I want that but they don't really want to be a superstar you you got to want it you got to you got to have some kind of vision a long time before well and and also like who you are as a person you have to have that like Fire Within still though like before you got into want famous I want to be in the NFL I want to be NBA I wanted to be a [ __ ] athlete when I was young was instilled I was just for whatever reason I wanted to make it when I was young I'm from H in Montana like small ass can I ask you something what's your opinion on like the take b nickel takes like where he's like super friendly and humble and like I think he's a sweet ass [ __ ] they love him but like bro that [ __ ] pisses me off I think that [ __ ] is cool too n like you're a hum like [ __ ] talk your [ __ ] you're what 670 like bro talk your [ __ ] like it it kind of bores me no I get yeah I mean that's that's some people's opinion is like he's too nice too humble too that but he's being himself um but he's also super young in the sport I think he and he's still pretty what is he 28 you're in a sport of War if I was playing like [ __ ] Cricket I would be like yeah like but that's that's the thing is for for for a character like him what it seems like is that's what he's in is the sport of war and that's it he's not in the sport of entertainment he's a nice ass sweetheart get there is some people that that understand both sides of things but I also have respect for and I see when someone's that's strictly in the sport of if I play chess with you I'm going to be like good game and I'm going to shake your hand I talk [ __ ] be F ass to a PO it I'm going to be like [ __ ] you you need to get better at whatever you're doing dial dialing it back a little bit um to the aost stream thing I think it's like what do you think about Conor tweeting still at like 3:00 a.m. like coked out he he he he sent shots at me and Ryan talking [ __ ] but it's it's crazy coming from Connor who literally got out of the usada pool to do steroid like legit steroids so it's kind of wild and I was the biggest Connor fan for a long time in the last couple weeks ever since he sent that wasn't even a couple weeks ago probably a week ago I've been trying to hate him I've been trying to be like [ __ ] you Connor but I can't I love Connor I it's like I am excited for his fight coming up I'm excited I want you know I'm all about it what's the fight is it Chandler Chandler in June it's going to be big they just been trying to do it for a long time so I didn't know if it still still I think officially I think it's I think I think the craziest part about it is what like eight weeks before a fight that he's still like coked and drunk out of his mind who you got though who that's a good it is crazy that he still like he tweeted that deleted like 20 minutes later he was definitely [ __ ] up on well that's what I was going to say we can't just Grace past that do you is that that's a that's a bold thing to say do you you know he's on coke is that a is that are you [ __ ] gills I don't know anything but I know for certain that he's brother like look at the time of the tweets and look at what he's saying like also and he's like known for this simar tweets yeah yeah I don't know just manic brother I think he is I do think Ryan is I think he when he said he was playing into it a little bit I I think he's kind of using that I think he's [ __ ] crazy what what what would happen if you and Ryan boxed that's I mean there's only one way to find out he has a lot better chances of beating me in a boxing match than he does in a real fight keep up I do I I [ __ ] I truly believe in myself that's how I got to the [ __ ] position I'm in right now I can box I can throw hands um I don't think it'd be easy by any means I do think it's possible I beat him I'm not saying my my odds are great but I do believe I could beat Ryan Bo if there was anybody you could box for your first boxing match debut who are you Bo give an easy fight give me Deon Haney you give [Laughter] me honest answer uh I mean if we're I I would say Floyd if I Pi if I could sit here and pick who I box first boxing fight I pick Floyd because it would be the biggest most crazy most legendary fight maybe not most legendary some people for me okay but outside of that on a skill based level oh I I could hang with some good [ __ ] pro boxers I'm undefeated in boxing you think you think if you and uh ilot boxed that' be ilot is very very [ __ ] skilled boxing that's an interesting question so who what what professional boxer would you equate your PA Mike Tyson I know of Devon Haney now because Ryan Garcia beat him uh dvon Davis he's really short I know him um maybe smacking [ __ ] up though he does he that little guy he can't he can't ride roll coasters though that is true so there's a there's a tradeoff like Cruz fight he was riding a roller coaster no like I'm talking about like at the fair oh no you know like there there's a trade-off in life you know where things get weird it's like it's like yo he's really good but you can't even just hit Dante fan brother can't even ride the top not a Dante fan that's not what I'm wait what did what did I say to say I'm not a you didn't say I mean I don't think he knows that it's a short joke I don't think he picked up on you want me tell him I was joking shut the [ __ ] up I get I say that was a joke I'm what are you trying to say I'm but are you trying to insinuate that I'm short no honestly you're probably what five you're 5'9 you're like 5' seven and a half stop doing stop doing it stop doing that cuz [ __ ] is going to see this and be like he's 5'6 actually if you watching this and you think I'm 5'6 and you want to try me in person please any [ __ ] who see me out I'm punching your [ __ ] out I'm like 5'9 on a good day when when I'm lying to women I'm 5'10 for sure who's gonna ID me I'm wearing forces I'm a [ __ ] liar all right so now for the truth jakee he's like what like he's 5 No but don't do that bro all right all right we won't we'll cut that out like yeah n don't cut it out n don't see me and see these but you know dvon is 5'5 legit that's cool bro I know but is that not short just be honest is that five five short for a grown man for a grown man is that short you can be a fan I'm not I'm a fan of javante and he's five that's a little little bro all right the joke went over his head anyways so the short joke [ __ ] is trying to play me like I'm short no no no we're we're not we're not you're [ __ ] tall all right let's pivot yeah so um SI yeah sh shout out to the shout out to the pivot but but yeah like Jasper's a little riled up things are on edge he's a little he's a little turned up it's been a long day a long two days we've been shooting uh because we have a new [ __ ] company did we say we talk about that yet I we said in the beginning raise your arms up [ __ ] goed [ __ ] goed shout out to w a fun few days it's been a fun few days days you're going to see the content rolling out um but you speaking of but Ruby Rose did a good job oh my God I wanted to bite that M listen anyway if you're near wmart if you're watching this right now I don't give a [ __ ] what you're doing you could be taking care of your kid you could be taking care of your elderly parents [ __ ] them go to Walmart June 1st Nationwide I don't care if you in Pensacola you in Massachusetts all in places that sound [ __ ] stupid there's a Walmart there and you go there it's a better for you product vitamin ifuse number [ __ ] one yeah no basically I I think dialing back like the business story of it because you're also like a very smart businessman intellectual doing everything you do in and outside of the Ring which a lot of people don't have which contributes to you being uh the biggest in my opinion the biggest UFC star um but yeah we we basically I guess this is the podcast where we tell people where W came from but um we started building this company like a year and a half ago and really saw how all these other companies like as we move into better for you products and less harmful products we saw how the leaders in the space didn't have the best formulas didn't have the best manufacturing had all of these harmful substances in it and we're also brands from when I was like 9 years old I don't want to list names but they're still like having all the Shelf space in stores and I was just like this is wild like this is boring this is lame the the the we need something new we need something that's better uh males have vitamin uh deficiencies like crazy especially with magnesium Jasper just can't get enough of it uh especially with magnesium um and biotin is in the body wash uh vitamin E one two of the best vitamins for your skin and hair um but as The Story Goes long story short we we come up with this brand that represents so many things um but I think winning in everyday life whether you're the valedictorian whether you are the high school jock whether you're philanthropist now you have a product that you can embody and wear every single day that's increasing your vitamin intake that is less harmful to you that's where the idea came from and just being the winning formula in category uh went to Walmart pitched them the whole idea they [ __ ] loved it helped us build the brand even and come up with the scent profiles and all the things that are the the most popular um and this has been something I've wanted to do for so long we had to bring in the best people to be a part of it the winners in their category and that's number one Numero Uno sha Ali here um and he instantly saw the vision and already in the past couple of days it's been like super fun filming all the content behind yeah I was pumped when you [ __ ] called me appreciate you thinking of me and uh excited to help grow this business [ __ ] it's needed it's needed we're going to take over the whole bathroom you know tooed if you [ __ ] with the dogs and cows and chickens dog in you I know what I got that dog in me and I use it so be dog free baby am I missing anything with that no I think that was great the one the one thing I would touch on and you did in a way but it's it is body wash it is body spray it is deodorant but it also is there's an ethos that stands behind this brand which is the ethos that you stand for and it's the ethos that you stand for and the ethos that you stand for and the one that I stand for if I say ethos again I'm GNA start stumbling over my words but it's it's it's like you said it it doesn't the winners in life aren't just you you're on a big stage in life you're you're you're crushing it in every aspect financially you're a star you're leading your sport that's awesome on every [ __ ] level it's it's an encouragement to to young men all around the world to [ __ ] get up off their ass and get sh it don't matter if you score high on a test you whatever the [ __ ] it is that you do well maybe not so it matters what the [ __ ] you do but it also doesn't matter what the [ __ ] you do anybody is a winner as long as you put in the work and you have the will to win and I love it I I would say that's wrong I would say that not anybody is a winner and I think that's something that the brand also stands for like you really got to win you got to as you have the will to win no I'm just saying I think that's an important point cuz we live in a world today where a lot of people think everybody can be a winner that's not true if you Los you might be a loser and if you're a loser the good news is there's a hidden l in the logo actually we'll trace it for you with our graphic design team there's a hidden l in the logo because and I I I wanted to make sure that was was a thing because the biggest loss of my life turned out to be the biggest W in my life and I always had the saying like two L's make a w and when I lost to Tommy Fury it was embarrassing all these things but I realized I wasn't focused I wasn't as locked in as I could be the team around me from a boxing standpoint wasn't good I was having personal issues with relationships and all of these things that I had to shed and grow from and I grew into this new and completely different person but I wouldn't have done that if I didn't lose on the biggest stage possible and I think that was part of the ethos ethos ethos ethos of the brand was to encourage people that in their lowest moments to turn those into into their biggest W's eventually when Jake just said that the biggest loss of his life ended up being the biggest W of his life you said same yeah yeah same what what was that story for supposedly lost for lost to Cheeto back in 2020 August it it was I mean it sucked at the time but I it didn't suck too bad because I was like okay I didn't lose because I you know and it was different I wasn't I mean I was focused everything went good training camp everything was good but I was like that sucks I'm goingon to get that back someday when the time is right and then my last fight two two months ago in Miami headline I'm the champ defending my belt against that same guy how rewarding was that three and a half years later August three and a half years later boom beat his ass as a fan of yours it made it so sweet because of all the doubters that constantly like put you down and didn't believe in you and said he was going to destroy you and then you he literally like you embarrass him that was a performance of a life you embarrassed the [ __ ] out of him and I think that's literally a prime example of turning l l into into a w and I really that's what that's where the hidden l in the brand in the logo is um and representing that every single day when you see these products in your bathroom and when we say we have a saying it's not just a product it's a lifestyle absolutely trademarked Incorporated All Rights Reserved 2024 brother uh but but yeah man it's it's an honor to have you a part of this and uh we we really made what we think are the best products on the market from the body wash being exfoliating vitamin infused to the body spray what we found out is a lot of these fragrances like you get like these high-end designer brands that have like $500 colognes turns out it only cost them a dollar to make that and they're literally making like $499 on top of that so we had a fine fragrance house is what these places are called and we got the super expensive scents and gave it to people to what they're worth like we're not trying to these products are super super affordable and I think it's so funny because that's the world we live in where like you just label something and get like a European girl to go this is one of the lower priced men's care products on the market yeah if I'm not mistaken and it's it's the $500 fragrance in the affordable bottle because we want everyone we've been using a body wash in the past two days since we got the samples after the shoot and I personally want to say I got the in there you could bleep it out whatever you want to do W's winning n b genuinely that's that's the saying is the it's winning formula cuz it really is like it really is if if we're going to call our company [ __ ] W it has to be the best we the winners winning product indeed indeed winning customers all that type of [ __ ] indeed better Derek today he's just got a punch I'm not Li I talked to him before he left he wants to punch you up bro he's got a punchable face I like him though it's weird it's like God I like that guy but I want [ __ ] KO pick him up and like it's okay boom one more to the liing me earlier and I'm just letting you know don't shoot the messenger on God he said he wants to get in the ring with you I can call him really he oh yeah he he you want to call him yeah where is he at is wait uh no call no call he's coming up oh um he's talking smack he said he actually wants a spar I swear to God he said he wants to get percentage should I go you guys I literally out let that's crazy timeing saying talk [ __ ] to my face if you're going to talk [ __ ] that's crazy timing what were you saying they were telling me you want to get in the ring and Spar bit or they didn't say Spar they said fight yeah I'm down to do either but uh yeah no I'm just sick of the [ __ ] [ __ ] you've been saying on your podcast uh you called me you made fun of my weight and you called me gay I did not no I well okay okay you said that he wouldn't ever say that what you got to say what your chest that's what I just [ __ ] said bro I he was like oh if I if stand on it you talking to him you talking to him you ain't talking to me my assistant Sono would would piece you he's never boxed a day he never I'm here to fight your video I'm here to fight you what did I what was the first thing I said to you when when I saw you what was the first thing I said to you that we could fight no I said you look thick wait but when we were talking earlier weren't you saying he's a [ __ ] and you wanted to get a ring with him and all type [ __ ] what I'm saying right now say it then I just said the [ __ ] ring so we can after this we have a ring 2 feet away and he's a [ __ ] and whatever else you was saying to me yeah he's [ __ ] what about my hair say something about my hair I I already said that at the W shoot that you look like you haven't showered in [ __ ] a week okay all right d hey buddy hey hey what's your long-term play not no but see you guys you guys are making me seem crazy you're out of your mind he Derek Dereck go warm up hit the hit the heavy back H the warm up is almost listen legendary as send location dble PIV go warm up hey hey double pivot sit sit I'm not [ __ ] no I I'll sit and talk but I'm not [ __ ] no sit on the floor walk you want to take my seat hey how much how much of what's going on ch ch how much of what's going on is is a character versus like actual delusion how much is a character yeah decent uh I would say there are times where I know what I have to do for my boxing career to like like we all why is he laughing cuz you said career I beat your [ __ ] boy your [ __ ] [ __ ] bro you know what I I recall you did beat I recall calling steiny saying what the [ __ ] was that buddy I love steiny but I do remember watching that and thinking I wasn't proud of that I was not proud of that from steiny and I wish I wish he would come to the gym I wish he'd get in there I wish he'd train a little bit and I wish he would have a rematch but that's on him I've been trying to get the rematch but he's been ding me do you think Derek won he said I won I thought I thought he won I'd have to rewatch but I do think I come on baby the comments have [ __ ] dragged me for months after that [ __ ] 99% of the comments say I lost so please say it one more time Sean no I said it what I said it's like therapy or something no but to answer your question uh we all know uh uh as Fighters there's a side of promotion stop [ __ ] first of all Gus shut the [ __ ] up our our audio guys uh like can't stop laughing is that the facial his facial hair or is what he's saying bro that's bold of you to talk facial hair bro that's bold of you to I'm not Li you look dirty you look like Jeffrey done training right Jesus I train every day but anyway we know like there's two sides of of promotion as well as the actual athletic competition that is Combat Sports so there are times where I might play up a little bit like hey promoting but let him go let him go all right if you if all if you think I'm all promoting that I'll see you in the [ __ ] ring and I'll knock both you either of you out well um well Jake's a [ __ ] fat [ __ ] right now he weighs like 240 so I got I goty I gotta pick my words wisely like he's Jake's 240 I I know I know but like I'm not going to sit here and pick a fight against somebody that's 240 when I'm se's my weight class when I stopped you in one round like just like but when I was getting started out of come this is where I'm at since then I told him he could have somebody tag team I'm down I'm down to fight anybody in this [ __ ] room not one person in this room I'm the best part about this is like uh right after this we I think you're you're down to do like one round or three minutes right I mean I'd prefer 12 but we okay yeah 12 I mean that my biggest advantage in the ring ring is my cardio I do 12 12 okay so no I have a genuine question so five round I'm not I'm not one have I ever said I'm a UFC fighter no I'm just say we can box I'm just saying that's I'm used to five you want to do three we could do that aren't you trying to be a boxer with your [ __ ] Ryan Garcia call he would knock knock your [ __ ] ass out so quickly it wouldn't be close I'm one and0 pro boxing what are you actually I saw that video I saw video I'm also want to know thank you officially hey they count that's real commiss but uh I didn't mean I didn't mean to take I didn't mean to take over the pot I just wanted to a couple you definitely didn't yeah okay I try I'm trying to help you no we love you go warm up yeah yeah go warm up the bags don't warm up too much though don't get tired how much do you wa right now without Timberlands and jean shorts on high 120 low 13 no without lying though okay that [ __ ] is you think you got you got him one round I think I could beat him I think I can beat him I I think I could handicap myself to three just put on one glove I could do that what do you think actually happens now when you go downstairs and he gets in that ring like what's his plan that's what I don't get about him but that's why it's that's do me a favor that's why he's Cloud it up because love [ __ ] up [ __ ] he's going he's going to try to Yap he's going to try to talk please just go 100% yeah no actually actually please go 100% if he signs a consent form we'll have him no we've already got like multiple consent forms for better media with like death wavers [ __ ] no no no but he needs it he needs that I'll go like 40 no go like 75 Sean I'm I'm going to be honest bro don't even go 20% he's the nice [ __ ] bro don't do that bro you want him to go 100% no no to be honest but just like work with him and then just like maybe just just like a really good punching and then he'll give up 75% uh I'm nervous man I'm shaking for Derek yeah yeah that's good I understand that there a couple flinches if you Flinch hard enough the the wind coming off you will put him down let him walk you down and bait him boom sleeping what's your next upcoming fight a maraba jaaba and when is that uh not nothing yet I'm hoping for September maybe October maybe November maybe December I'm F ready to go baby what if it was next month I wouldn't be ready to go I like I like 10 to 12 weeks 10 to 12 he likes eight I mean I I normally do like 10 yeah just like but I've been super the first few weeks are [ __ ] pre-amps this Camp I'm channeling my Ryan Garcia would you ever do a Ryan Garcia regiment during Camp drink and smoke every night you do a little I I probably yeah I'm not actually doing that for the people out there he's locked in clocked in locked in locked in ready to go yeah May 20th we start but by the time the people see this it'll be uh June or something like that that is crazy you're fighting Mike that you fought Ben asran wrestler good good [ __ ] UFC was really good UF bit Tyron Woodley twice Anderson Silva knockout of the year with Nate Robinson can't forget about deji deji the the the goat do we say Gibb or is that like that's just crazy resume like literally [ __ ] C by way thank you Gib cuz we had a really good party after he knocked you the [ __ ] out who W we're skipping two professional boxers this always no no the recent ones this always happens I'm trying to just think cuz two cuz this is what everybody asked for this is what everybody asked for who who are the two professional boxers you fighted you got to name them Andre August and Ryan Borland go okay people don't people are like fight a pro boxer and then I do and then they're like that was boring as a man of combat he what were 10 and one nine and one nine and one what is your take on his [ __ ] all of his fights and who he's fighting in the competition dude I've been excited as [ __ ] since I started I remember you I remember the first time I watched was the Nate Robinson I watched that one at home and then uh I don't remember what it was after that but I remember watching Ben Asam in Atlanta I think that was the first time we actually met was right after the fight I think we hugged I was like y I picked you up you carried me back to the locker room that it was love at first sight that was crazy actually yeah actually I [ __ ] with him we became best friends like a couple days later you going to leave me hanging no no I would it's my eyebrow but uh yeah no I think he's obviously super skilled I think it's and I I it's inspired me even in the position I'm at UFC World Champ sexy you know what I mean like tall dark handsome TR inspired me just business the business uh side of things that you've done I've always thought putting on massive fight that's why I'm such a huge Conor fan cuz the pay-per-views he's done is so [ __ ] he's been fighting for four years and [ __ ] that he's been doing the massive fights the fights I get excited for there's a few UFC fights the high the big big fights that I get excited for but every time you fought even when uh Logan fought Floyd I was [ __ ] like excited like all fight week so i' I've been inspired from what you've done from a business side from the boxing side they even just start so not late but for a boxer but these boxers start when they're [ __ ] three four years old like Ryan and tank like they're young buck the Tik Tac I sent you of Devon Haney's debut fight yeah it's wild he was fighting a five foot Mexican in a in a bar was it Dante bro if I show you this [ __ ] oh no I did see that I did see that I did see that when you started even seeing that first video fighting Anderson Silva six fights in bro like do you know how insane that is he's one of the greatest correct me if I'm wrong UFC Strikers in history yeah 100% so does that make me one of the greatest UFC Strikers and one of the greatest wrestlers cuz wood but Ben ask was but Nate Diaz is ducking me in MMA oh am crazy I am weak that's a sick fight MMA I I wish it was that would happened right after the boxing same he's actually ducking it which is why it's crazy because he's not he's not in UFC no but we we upped it to 15 million damn that's crazy though that would be a I like Nate Diaz but that would be such a fun buildup he actually doesn't want to do it all Sean how do you genuinely Jake's not here it's me and you in a room actually how do you see that fight going for Jake what MMA him you're not here J for Nate in MMA keep it a bean God it's it's so hard to you're a big [ __ ] right now on what weight would it be5 185 I don't hate I don't I it's not a it's a winable fight for you I really do think that but Nate is so [ __ ] you would have to do what I did against aljo and morab do not let that [ __ ] grab you not that you can't wrestle cuz I know you can wrestle but once he starts grabbing you and doing Jiu-Jitsu if he gets on top his little he likes his little trips it would be hard for you to win I feel like if he if he started grappling just pure Jiu-Jitsu if it let's be real if it goes to the floor is he [ __ ] if he's on his back Nate's not like a super strong guy so if you learn how to like I mean I'm sure you know how to get up to a single legegg stuff like that but then you start getting your neck grabbed I don't know how much Jiu-Jitsu you know I mean Nate's a [ __ ] high Lev black belt um if you could keep it standing 100% there's winnable ways there if he if he went to the ground feel like he might be able to grab your neck no that that's exactly how I feel about it if I don't get guillotined yeah then I win the fight because even if he was on top take your back but even if he was on top of me I would just throw him off of me cuz he's also the weakest puncher I've ever fought like when he was hitting me I was I almost like started laughing I'm I'm not even saying this to talk [ __ ] out of everyone I've sparred in my whole entire life and everyone I fought his punches are even me we I don't think you ever landed a punch on me is that true well that's not true so I don't anyone no I'm literally not even talking [ __ ] which is why I think it's funny that he dropped Connor and [ __ ] cuz it's just like how Conor with like to the ground yeah like with a straight left hand yeah which is crazy like I I'm not just talking [ __ ] when I say that and I've told you I've literally told you this you told me this after the fight yeah I was like he is the weakest puncher I've ever fought in my life who's who's the weakest puncher you've ever you've ever come to face um there I mean there's been so many fights where I later didn't even get hit um uh does that like make you jaded at all when you get into a fight and you don't really get love that [ __ ] I prefer not to get hit at all but like if I was you and I wasn't get hit at all I'd probably work less no no no no I I know I don't get hit because I work that hard so if I didn't work hard I know I'd probably get hit I'm just a lazy [ __ ] so so here you are on top of the world we're launching [ __ ] W going to be a billion dollar business [ __ ] you I always forget uh UFC champ accomplishing all your goals what do you want next uh what are what is the threeyear fiveyear for Sean I I truly do want to get a boxing fight I'm not I'm not super set on that to where like I'm like going to be [ __ ] if it doesn't happen I do think it'll be interesting especially if I go out there knock morab out Ryan does his thing I think there's a [ __ ] sweet fight there if it doesn't happen not that worried about it want to go out there beat morab I'd like to you know if Max Max and Elia fight I would like to fight go move up to 45 fight the winner of that um you know maybe have three to five maybe have a few more kids definitely want another little baby I love kids my fite pump him out shout out to Danny who's your top pick in a boxing fight though if you if you could choose your Ryan now was like the I mean what he after dvon Beat Ryan I was like javante then Ryan goes out there does his thing really though I think Dante do you is that is that not a big [ __ ] leap Ryan like you said before he's been doing this his whole life one thing that's been proven is that the crossover it's it's not a good return Fury he did his thing okay the excep is the exception we've seen it with okay but then Anthony Joshua put his ass t was crazy super night night he was I'm I'm here for big fights like I wanted to get into the UFC and I wanted to make big fights watching Conor versus Floyd I'm like that [ __ ] happened really happened hey you versus Derek that could be as big as Connor in Floyd but no but I I think the craziest [ __ ] about Conor versus Floyd is that overall it was a W for everyone involved so there's certain fights where it just like doesn't matter what happens that's the world we live in yeah I mean UFC told me they said if the if the fight's big enough and it'll make the UFC money they'll do it what means more to you your your your record being pre or the amount of money you're making all right let me ask you something it's about to get real J's drunk Jasper's drunk as [ __ ] y record or money [ __ ] it depends the Gap like like the gap of money if it's like an extra 10 15 20 million but I lose a couple important fights probably not you just take like 150 million I'll be like like [ __ ] my record baby yeah it depends on the gap of money Jake Paul is not here right now just like a Mayweather Conor McGregor you taking that fight ver Jake yeah no he's my buddy I could I mean I don't I don't even no I no funny no there's you know what's funny is always in my Snapchat story once once a day pretty much someone says we knock out Jake Paul like there's every sing all the time for so long people just want to see me get [ __ ] is good though that's like the thing yeah but I'm sensitive it is funny though people [ __ ] love to hate confidence the craziest thing though actually about both of you like I met you very recently like I didn't realize you're as like normal as you are I don't know why I thought you violent like you guys are both like very goofy mellow and stupid and c and and awesome it's like the greatest thing ever like I couldn't believe when I met you you're like one of us like yeah I wouldn't think you're a [ __ ] yeah one of the coolest people in the world for sure yeah but not a lot of people uh can like I don't know we have like a weird it's hard toes Meat Heads I'm like this the this my dog I think it's a little bit of dark humor too it's like some [ __ ] up [ __ ] that we say off camera [ __ ] sometimes but I think it's like there's a certain yeah like that's how my whole group is back home it's like we all just we're all just kind of [ __ ] dumb I'm smart but like they're dumb well someone commented like yo Jake Paul's the dumbest genius in the world and I was just like I say that [ __ ] all the time you wed up the other day and I was like this is the most genius dumbass in the world no jokes Hey Brother chill buddy trying to get me cancelled no what how old are you 23 are you really yeah no you're not he's not is he what do you think think what did you think Oh no you're 267 27 what did you think he was I thought he was older I thought he was like 27 26 yeah a niggaer mature was that ladies you got a boo you got a girl you just be slanging she timeout right now I don't really talk about she don't time out it's a little tricky she not taking care of herself what do you guys think about Tom Brady R you watch it yeah they kept comp panning to you every 5 Seconds bro I swear there's a huge camer sitting there the whole time but it's cool to see Netflix going hard like that cuz they went hard they swing that meat around huha yeah let's pivot yeah just sorry about him I'm drunk man not yeah but but it was it was great it wasar they should have got rid of most of the football players going up there yeah there's a couple ones Ben afflac is that who that was on there that was wild that was so weird that was so weird it was cool to see how [ __ ] less sensitive people are becoming I feel like feel like it's recently like there's a big push back I think people got sick of it we went super super super PC for a long time people were like wait a second we like being able to say what we want to say I saw kill Tony say oh type of crazy [ __ ] on there that watch every [ __ ] Monday you were on kill Tony yeah how old are you actually buddy I'm a comedian Budd full time no yeah I was on that I was nervous as hell though I was like just being it's a live I do podcast once a week like me and Tim do our podcast every [ __ ] week but to be there in front of an audience live it's weird it's a different kind of well so you say Tim but let's let's talk about actually the fact that you get trained by by one of the greatest boxers of all time it's really that's something what's happened like that's crazy working with Canelo as your as your coach that's what I'm saying people don't going to be Ryan but like yeah that is true I never even thought about that for did you even know that this guy proba even know that that orange [ __ ] is nice wait will I get cancelled by the ginger community no you're black oh no my dad my dad's Ginger and I'm I'm like this [ __ ] is ginger bro he be shaving he be shaving his beard and I zoom in zoom in it's it's slightly orange so I'm a quarter ginger on South Park they made fun of Gingers and that [ __ ] made the news I [ __ ] with the ginger people but like y'all [ __ ] you like redhead girls oh yeah was Super Soaker but anyway yeah like y'all [ __ ] is orange and that's okay but back to you one of y'all that's not drunk I got a question cuz this guy clipped out a lot did Tim actually like you guys about him like saying to fight that was yeah that was real Tim always be talking [ __ ] to the like he's been doing that for so long so what happened he just talk I mean he just he Alo the knee's coming Alo you got to shoot Alo watch out for this like he's been saying that since I've been in the UFC like my debut vers terion where he was talking [ __ ] to terion too and uh he just does it every fight but this happened to just be crazy timing to like Tim you got Tim like alre you got to go and like literally he he like that's when he threw that left hand or whatever stepped into Southpaw and uh or stepped into Orthodox and got dropped it was it was funny the timing because he's like Al you got to go I don't I truly don't think that's why that's not why Alo went I bet you could I bet Alo didn't even hear that but Tim's always chirping and stuff but people on the internet are [ __ ] mad about that a lot of them actually like it I'll say majority of people are thinking that's the funniest [ __ ] ever there's a couple [ __ ] that are like you should be banned think it's a fight would you run the alra fight back or one and done never I like that why would I yeah am I supposed to top that you know what I'm saying I got love for Alo we had him on the show and he he seems like a good dude I actually don't mind Alo I does that ever happen where like you'll have a personal relationship with someone personal runin with them and it's all great but then now all of a sudden you have to fight each other I've never had I've not of running with someone that's been like uh more than like I've ran into aljo morab at the UFC I'm like hey what's up talk to him a little bit you know nothing no ill will um but I haven't had like a run with someone I actually lik them mhm and then at the fight them so you're not friends with any any other UFC fighters oh I have a there's there's a couple guys in my in my weight class that I train with at the lab that are like climbing the r uh ladders what happened with uh the 125 pounder I I don't even know his name and I'm not I'm just not like yeah what's his name I Alexander pania bro this story is actually kind of funny so 2016 I think it was it was like 3 and0 4 and0 and I was still fighting at like I fought at 125 not too long before that I fought at like 130 which is in a weight class was like so I wasn't like a 155 like I am now I was probably like 14 back then and uh Henry cejudo comes in I'm three or four and0 at the point at this point it comes in with this kid Alexander PTO just won The Ultimate Fighter I think he's got his UFC debut or it's his second UFC fight he's a couple weeks out from his fight I'm [ __ ] the night before me and Tim ripping bongs like hanging out being goofballs and [ __ ] so the next morning so we brought him in for sparring hry sudo brings in Alexander you're 4-0 he's King [ __ ] he he's just won The Ultimate Fighter and so they write the names on on the board who who you're sparring I'm like oh [ __ ] I got Alexander Pantoja versus me for one round one round he has three rounds so you write one one name then usually you you spar with one guy then they go out you spar with a fresh guy they go out spar with the fresh guy that's usually how it works so my name was just up there for one round that's it we Spar one round I didn't know anything about him cuz I I didn't really watch it like that 25 I don't really watch 25ers like that but somebody's like oh [ __ ] that's he a black belt he just won The Ultimate Fighter I was like oh [ __ ] I got to [ __ ] Focus up here first round boom Dro him with a liver kick and I wasn't going to post I record all my rounds I have so many sparring rounds like I wasn't going to post it was and for some reason I don't know why he would talk [ __ ] and bring it up cuz I literally I don't know you know know I don't know if you know how it works but you finish a guy the fight's over right no no did he um so I finished him the first round he hit him boom with the liver I posted the video yesterday and I've had it for a long time I didn't want to post it CU you don't post sparring like that but he just kept bringing it up so boom finished him first round um then uh after the first round round I go to walk out and Henry's over there crying box of Kleenex just like [ __ ] wiping his tears crying we want you for a second round so mad that this little like I was nobody just finished his dude he's in the UFC he's supposed to be the man finish him in the first round so Henry's crying saying he wants another round um so I piece him up again in the second round and I'm I'm dying at this point my lungs are burning I'm not in shape for fight I I'm nowhere near in Camp for a fight and I my lungs are hurting and uh Henry again crying blowing his nose and like I want you for a third and Benson comes in Benson Henderson absolute Legend comes in and was yelling cuz that's his it was the his gym the MMA lab we don't let people come in our gym and make us tired and blah blah blah and I'm [ __ ] just just huffing and puffing I just got done work in this dude for 10 minutes finished him in the first round did I say that liver kick um we'll put the footage I have the foot yeah it's right there insert the footage so third round come out boom piece him up again and he's so I don't know why he keeps bringing up this bringing this up in the media I think it's because people ask him but I don't know why he doesn't just say yeah yeah no no I don't want to talk about it he keeps saying like he's like oh I got in I found his range and [ __ ] I'm like bro you you stopped him in one round stopped him in round one and let him live and continue to fight for round two these delusional uh like wild people are weirdos but the reason I posted cuz he kept bringing it up exactly wait so is he the champ now at 125 yeah okay but why does he still want to talk [ __ ] to you if you got [ __ ] up that's what I'm saying I don't know either either you drop to 125 and get that no I can't drop to 125 that's too much now you're a thick [ __ ] I am a thick but yeah I SP I think it's important for up and cominging Spar uh fighters to record their rounds and watch their rounds not for that this reason you know but just to I've improve so much watching my sparring y I have thousands of rounds maybe not thousands hundreds of rounds from 10 years ago on my on my computer of uh it's like NFL team is watching footage the time [ __ ] 100% got to watch that [ __ ] that's I I have every single round recorded and and again I I don't post sparring either exactly you know put in a highlight video make a vlog boom we're sparring people but it's never like [ __ ] up your guy yeah exactly but Mike Perry honestly like what he's been doing is pretty Fu he went to Bare knuckle that [ __ ] just meant for him bare knuckle fighting it's crazy different going crazy he's doing good he's [ __ ] undefeated over there he's beating some really good guys stay over here [ __ ] [ __ ] only place that you should be getting tickets from is game time.co it's it's the only place I go it is the only place you can possibly go they have 110% price match guarantee that's what we use to get our tickets for the NBA Finals you can get $20 off your first order go to gametime.co JJ a $20 off your first order they're doing a deal specifically for y'all and you could see where your tickets are before you buy them seeing the seats they have all of the these great policies last 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platform there is Mike Paul versus Jake Tyson here's my official prediction tell us and even if even if it's against me like it's not it's not I do think you're going to beat Mike Tyson uh it's crazy that I even saying that out loud right now cuz you're fighting Mike Tyson it's [ __ ] crazy even just when we were walking down the the street today people all genders all ages knew you were fighting Mike Tyson it's such a massive fights live on Netflix which is [ __ ] crazy it's in a stadium which is [ __ ] crazy it is crazy I believe in you I see what you I see what you're doing I see you know that you believe in yourself Mike Tyson is uh hasn't fought in however long it's been so for him to just come up and get a fight be I I'm sure is going to be in as good a shape as he possibly could be in but it's just you know it's it's it's it's not his time right now I love Mike Tyson I never actually met him but I love Mike Tyson I do think Jake's gonna get the job done and I do think eight rounds eight two-minute rounds eight two-minute rounds I believe I believe you could put them away in the later rounds you know five six seven eight I do think you could put it put him down which is crazy to even [ __ ] think you rap yeah that's fire I'm just lazy and inconsistent that's not a w no that sh it is not you start using Brandon yell at him every day but cuz you can actually spit that's fire no but but people know him now from like podcasting they don't know he's a rapper and hurts his soul J sick name Lil jizz what J JZ that's good that's good you should switch your [ __ ] I switch my [ __ ] from come Master to kill Jas bro honestly though that's I think singing rapping spitting is one of the things that if I could switch talents be doing something like that that's good or twerking I ain't going to lie you shook that [ __ ] earlier I got a I got a thing on me you that [ __ ] wiggle a little bit let's let's pivot though cuz yep hit a pivot uh yeah do we have a speaker should we play Jasper's new song or something you got a new one I thought you were lazy some new [ __ ] go ahead play on your phone just put it in the speaker put it in the mic too this the [ __ ] I'm dropping when I'm Indie that sound decent I'm not rapping either I'm yapping that's not going to get you drunk yo I made this beat that's crazy I like the way you look I won't lie you got something I need you my with a fly girl like you doing with no guy a little sh don't really go outside I'm not crazy right place and right time you all smiles and pretty light brown [Music] [Music] like that better if I forget you but I just can't time saying do better and I'm sure you can find that guy that's worth all right cut it cut it cut it that's that's enough that's enough that's enough that's enough for real can't give the whole thing it's not out yet yeah hey good [ __ ] that's fire I'll be rapping though but that's some pop [ __ ] just cuz I can do it so why are you consistent cuz I'm lazy and jaded and and spoiled yeah it's unfortunate maam shout out to the homies for a lot of talented people out there that just are yeah don't smoke crack yo also there there is a parallel there don't do don't do that there's a parallel with the same thing he's talking about I think Fighters probably where it's like you could have all the talent in the world he's got that's why I get so [ __ ] mad at him it's cuz he has all the talent in the world really I get more pissed off than he gets and he could be a superstar but he just is lazy he doesn't put the work in he's not he's not strategic and it is hard when you got when you live in a crib in Puerto Rico right you got chefs and [ __ ] and you fly private with me yeah that's it that's it bro that's it you got to you got get paychecks and [ __ ] y'all got to evict me that's not a bad idea honestly I think we talked about it let's make I was I'm H we had a conversation but I just can't I can't because I love you so much I need you but then I'll probably be more like need you y yeah I guarante and then we you would still have to like fly in once a week to to do the pods and it would be resentment and then I I'll go out like and I'll try to start shooting at y'all oh my God I guarantee I would be in the position I'm in if I if I had money and like had already made it like financially had [ __ ] I wouldn't have made it that's why people think I'm crazy but CC the other side of it is like boom right so I'm from com California same hey shout out my [ __ ] yeah man I was homeless for the first half of my life mom's a drug addict dad's a gang member I've never had anything in my life right and my whole life has been music I dropped out in ninth grade I was like I'm going to make music my dad kicks me out he's like you can't live under this roof like be more like your brothers my brothers are [ __ ] star students one got a full ride scholarship loser all all type of [ __ ] nerd ass [ __ ] all those [ __ ] are fat and unemploy now one dropped out of school a full rise scholarship and is just sitting at home right so boom from having nothing to like me saying I'm going to risk everything that I have in my life to become a music artist and it works I get to a certain place and I'm like damn I did exactly I hit a ceiling right so it's like now I had to recalibrate he got a big record deal and then and then like use I crashed out and became a m addict for four four days a week for 30 like 90 days oh it's not bad but then I moved cuz my homeboy was like you need to move and I was like nah [ __ ] that I made a million I ain't going to move I'm going to maintain this lifestyle I'm a junkie but I'm rich yep I crashed out and was like yeah I need to move lost 60 lbs went to Puerto Rico locked in recalibrated and now I'm ready to be but that's that's here's the problem we run into now is that you've recalibrated and now it's still it's been 6 months the album's supposed to be 6 months ago and we're still waiting for the album that's the problem and that's what you got to work on never too late though let's start it let's get because you're vitamin deficient right yeah yeah cuz like a lot of people can't think straight when they're vitamin deficient and all that a week ago kind of elaborated on that so yeah this isn't therapy um I got shout out Suzie right right huh Susie but she's hot is she not you think my therapist you guys got the same one I could pee and vape on this podcast I got to go pee go pee I could pee yeah I mean I think we I think we end the episode because uh let's wrap it up you can get W available at Walmart anyway if you walk into Walmart whether you with your mom your daddy you by yourself you go in that [ __ ] men body care aisle you buy that and comment down below what you thought of the episode for um us being brain fried over and uh jper but Buzz also comment cuz this coming out when the product releases comment your favorite scent and sent $10,000 right no I'm send you 1,000 I ain't got 10,000 for you but I'll send you 1,000 I'll send someone 10,000 he'll send you 10,000 I'll send you a th000 and I'm going through the comments for sure anyway good luck Charlie and if you got a test soon good luck on that [ __ ] that's what we [Music] do what are those 8 O gloves I want you to know they were talking up there he ain't going easy so be ready all right legit be ready buddy I'm using these bags don't show Too Much don't show we're boxing we're boxing I don't I do that on accident sometimes just know that that might come up just keep your hands up I'm just saying I might throw that up I haven't knocked someone out in a while just cuz my last fight didn't go off it went off five rounds I've been like craving just putting someone's lights out lately it's weird versus your boy better Derek I I hope Sean isn't nice and just [ __ ] him up that's your that's your trainee [ __ ] D all righty folks welcome to your main event of the evening starting out first in the loser corner you have better day with a record of no wins no losses I beat ste's [ __ ] out no anything he is 5'7 120 lbs lost in the mile to better JoJo but he's still delusional in his fighting career and to my left in the winning Corner sponsored by W sugar sha Ali The Undefeated UFC champion of the world it's time to fight bring it to the center we already spoke about the rules in the locker room beforehand give me your glove give me your hand touch gloves I want a clean fair fight no no hits below the waist back to your Corners time you ready judge you ready and fight [Music] [Applause] I'm out of balance or something oh do Dodge that [ __ ] hold on hold on hold on hold [ __ ] come on come on just oh my God one back of the head no no no back of the head four ref didn't see it five six me in the eyes Walk This Way Walk This Way for me he's running Walk This Way for me my car run all right and we're in in that right that's called all right time time time one two that was a that was a slip four up six bro Rizo what the [ __ ] are you doing all right get up SLP all right come on time in come on got come on got you [ __ ] black I'm going to I need to work I need to see some work black UT D somebody said 10 seconds like 8 seconds ago all right great back to your corner back to your corner back to your corner stay in there you're doing good right now this feel good I feel good do you see that one I landed clean on his face I think we all terrible shut the [ __ ] up for once in your [ __ ] life shut the [ __ ] up Sean's doing half punches on him shut up I'll act like uh no don't act like bro I'm just I'm putting in work all right how this how you when you [ __ ] beat the old wash UFC fighters everybody comments you're fighting old was UFC fighters what do you think 10s I think they're right in in round two round two round two oh got him [ __ ] oh [Music] [ __ ] hey put that hey that that's a that's going to be a 10 count can't get me by the that's going to be a 10 count that's going to be a 10 count next time back in the just there going to be a 10 count next time get in there give me real quick get him with some you thank you perfect okay BL I'm going to need to see some more one two back to your corner white Corner neutral Corner 5 6 seven eight n look at me thank you bro come on you want to fight do you want to fight when I do you want to fight yes yeah wait wait time back in wake up time time time time time I promise okay it's to the floor the rules of transfer to MMA tap tap tap he's St he's T he's ta all right I block out all right you're good to go wait wait the fight was over get the [ __ ] out of the ring oh it's over it's over it's over it's over go you got it's over it's over it's over [Music]	to like I mean I'm sure you know how to get up to a single legegg stuff like that but then you start getting your neck grabbed I don't know how much Jiu-Jitsu you know I mean Nate's a [ __ ] high Lev black belt um if you could keep it standing 100% there's winnable ways there if he if he went to the ground feel like he might be able to grab your neck no that that's exactly how I feel about it if I don't get guillotined yeah then I win the fight because even if he was on top take your back but even if he was on top of me I would just throw him off of me cuz he's also the weakest puncher I've ever fought like when he was hitting me I was I almost like started laughing I'm I'm not even saying this to talk [ __ ] out of everyone I've sparred in my whole entire life and everyone I fought his punches are even me we I don't think you ever landed a punch on me is that true well that's not true so I don't anyone no I'm literally not even talking [ __ ] which is why I think it's funny that he dropped Connor and [ __ ] cuz it's just like how Conor with like to the ground yeah like with a straight left hand yeah which is crazy like I I'm not just talking [	8	6	4	to like I mean I'm sure you know how to get up to a single leg stuff like that but then you start getting your neck grabbed I don't know how much Jiu-Jitsu you know I mean Nate's a high Lev black belt um if you could keep it standing 100% there's winnable ways there if he if he went to the ground feel like he might be able to grab your neck no that that's exactly how I feel about it if I don't get guillotined yeah then I win the fight because even if he was on top take your back but even if he was on top of me I would just throw him off of me cuz he's also the weakest puncher I've ever fought like when he was hitting me I was I almost like started laughing I'm I'm not even saying this to talk trash out of everyone I've sparred in my whole entire life and everyone I fought his punches are even me we I don't think you ever landed a punch on me is that true	well that's not true	6,4,8	-3,2,-2	6	4	8	-3	2	-2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXPZ1KzdpsY	4,103	mXPZ1KzdpsY	2024-06-20 00:00:00	well well well ladies and gentlemen do we have a special episode for you today none other than sugar Shan om Ali the current UFC bantamweight champion a legend in his own right this episode was off the cusp we were a little turned up Jasper was really really drunk so we weren't really prepared for this at all the conversations definitely got wild and obviously as you guys have seen over maybe the past week or so we launched a new company called w am men's carine in Walmart this company is so near and dear to my heart and I partnered with Shawn to bring this Vision to life amongst other celebrities artists and athletes that we are announcing over the next couple of weeks here get your w at Walmart it is very very very very very good stuff and yes you heard the news I am fighting Mike Perry on July 20th it is going down I'm still fighting Mike Tyson November 15th that is happening but I'm staying active knocking out Mike Perry on July 20th and I'm excited for y'all to listen to this episode and he the vision of w how it all came together and how Shawn got involved and then everything to do with Shawn's career this podcast has been a long time coming but prepare yourself for some idiocracy per usual uh this is [ __ ] with Jake Paul we have a secret handshake check it out AC let me get that stop playing mean yeah we created that because we actually have so many things to get into here this has been a long time coming Jasper did bring up something and the reason W was created was because the other products in the category had harmful dyes parabens sulfates hormone disruptors and so we wanted to create the better for you vitamin infused product and and Sean's a co-owner just signed today yesterday for the show but we we'll get into all of that we we've been you know bringing sea on for like we've been talking for like a month and a half yes sir yes sir um it is currently May we've been doing a lot of shoots this podcast will probably come out at post W launch you can get I'm so drunk I'm sorry y'all you can get it in uh Walmart every Walmart you in Paca Walmart get it in you in Pensacola it's in Walmart in Kentucky Walmart Walmart so basically uh we we brought in the greatest people in the world to help build W and Sean is one of those people but dialing everything back we will get into the company the body washes how this all came about but uh we've been wanting to do this podcast and thanks for joining us BR hey guys hey thanks for joining us right did you uh yeah I did you sh for an hour bro did you did you do do we know do we set the stage of the day and the fact that Jasper's slash right now okay cool y drunk is a [ __ ] y like double drunk yep yep yep you drunk yeah all that so um but just winding everything back uh I think we've been friends for a long time in fact you were the first guest on this show oh [ __ ] crazy Zoom crazy that's right that's right that's right the first ever episode you zoomed in and that's crazy we're thankful we're thankful for our friendship and it's pretty cool that now we're here again today uh getting less views than before and that's fire that's it congratulations less views we're not we're not it was it was a joke it was a joke if you watching this please like and comment cuz we falling off right now but man by the time this comes out you're going to be getting ready for me RAB how do you say his name I don't remember morab is iTab or or I don't know me that's got to be it me but you got to say it with the emphasis look meab mirab meab meab there you go there you go so yeah I should be getting ready hopefully I ain't got nothing scheduled hopefully uh you know Uncle Dana will call me say hey buddy you want to fight in in here and there and there and then I'm d b boom and that that's how that works what's up with everybody on your body though everybody talking [ __ ] even people youat I wanted to bring up yeah and he's like saying like he's trying to post about you even yesterday it is weird but when you concuss someone you know what I just say they don't think as well as they used to so I think he's still concussed and he's a little confused because he's talking [ __ ] still he not in his right mind because I can just throw up another post go because it's a throwback Thursday it's a throwback Friday do you think do you think people don't respect you enough cuz I I see that as your friend an unbiased like they just see social media and podcasts and the the hair and stuff like that and then they just sh week but I [ __ ] with you I appr that um I don't think it is well you can't you know I think it's fine I think you're jealous I ain't going to lie I got some inches under here let's smell that hair you can smell my [ __ ] must who I do think I feel a little bit disrespected as the champ but I think that last fight against Che kind of you know shut a little bit of people up canny go five rounds Cheeto beat me before the Alo fight um shut a lot of people up canny grapple didn't have to Grapple cuz he couldn't take me down yeah Alo couldn't take you down I think that was the biggest thing where they were like yo that's his weakness like yeah wrestle him down and then he just proved everyone wrong that's what's so interesting about this morab fight is he's supposedly well he is he's [ __ ] good at wrestling he's really really good at wrestling he's boring as [ __ ] and no one will there won't be one comment saying yeah right he's actually kind of fun not one person I'm com won I'm com you can I ask you something would you put yourself in your own top five Strikers in the UFC oh I'm yeah yo easily who's your Mount Rushmore strikker well I I mean I would unbiasedly I would put him as number one because adna is in like top three but he also like got beat by put that [ __ ] down boy he did uh bro I'm up there I'm up there Max is really good Max super his striking that's a good top five there that's four me Max Elia adaga uh I'm sure I'm missing some your with a one would it be that's that's a minus one Mount rmore is four yeah but I only got four but if you throw the five in it's a plus one isn't there only four yeah but but you ready to throw the five up I'm four all right that's my more but yeah once again uh this is a [ __ ] ass podcast so we apologize hey but something something you just touched on you talked about Fighters being fun and interesting how much and you're you're a superstar how much of you being a superstar how much of any fighter being a superstar comes down to them being fun and interesting as you are and how much of it comes down to their actual fighting good question uh well who's a super who who obviously Connor comes to mind I think he's he's a character he's fun he's interesting who else comes to mind is like a superstar I would say Izzy gives that off I think he's an interesting guy other than that there's not like a ton of fun like Ryan Garcia is doing a really good job right now of being [ __ ] interesting being a character uh I think that's fentel I think it's drugs as well I wouldn't deny that but he's still making people interested in Ryan versus Devon Haney was an interesting fight not because Devon Haney that dude's boring as [ __ ] you think he did them roids no I don't think Ryan did I think Devon needs to take that L he being a [ __ ] about I think the craziest [ __ ] you said to me and like I don't even know if we want to put this in there or bring it up but we we can always remove it but uh because of your your situation with the ostarine and you said to me like and it I like fully felt your energy you're like I swear on my daughter's life I never did that and you got popped for it yeah same thing happened uh to Ryan right now he popped for aost the low super low level a some [ __ ] like a trillionth of a gr the same thing happened to me uh so when that came out with Ryan like I truly truly didn't believe he took anything because it was the same [ __ ] and it happens to a lot of [ __ ] ostarine happens to how does that happen it's called the tainted supplement so if you're taking anything that has protein in it that's not third party tested uh could not just protein any kind of supplement that's not third party tested it's either NSF or there's a bunch of different third party tests but if you're not if you're taking something that doesn't have that there's chances there could be something in it but austram people pop for that all the time my case was not that big of a deal cuz I wasn't as huge of a star as I am now but it still was like a big deal because of my name the reason it's going so crazy right now is because Ryan G is a superstar so people are freaking out but it happens to a lot of athletes I just before we move past it I just on that Superstar topic how is that is that Superstar factor that that someone like you has someone like Ryan has someone like Connor has is it something you're born with or is it is it a practice is it something you can learn and do you sit back and like think like oh how can I go viral today how can I I think it's both I think you have to want to be a superstar there's some guys in the UFC like I want to make more money I want this I want that but they don't really want to be a superstar you you got to want it you got to you got to have some kind of vision a long time before well and and also like who you are as a person you have to have that like Fire Within still though like before you got into want famous I want to be in the NFL I want to be NBA I wanted to be a [ __ ] athlete when I was young was instilled I was just for whatever reason I wanted to make it when I was young I'm from H in Montana like small ass can I ask you something what's your opinion on like the take b nickel takes like where he's like super friendly and humble and like I think he's a sweet ass [ __ ] they love him but like bro that [ __ ] pisses me off I think that [ __ ] is cool too n like you're a hum like [ __ ] talk your [ __ ] you're what 670 like bro talk your [ __ ] like it it kind of bores me no I get yeah I mean that's that's some people's opinion is like he's too nice too humble too that but he's being himself um but he's also super young in the sport I think he and he's still pretty what is he 28 you're in a sport of War if I was playing like [ __ ] Cricket I would be like yeah like but that's that's the thing is for for for a character like him what it seems like is that's what he's in is the sport of war and that's it he's not in the sport of entertainment he's a nice ass sweetheart get there is some people that that understand both sides of things but I also have respect for and I see when someone's that's strictly in the sport of if I play chess with you I'm going to be like good game and I'm going to shake your hand I talk [ __ ] be F ass to a PO it I'm going to be like [ __ ] you you need to get better at whatever you're doing dial dialing it back a little bit um to the aost stream thing I think it's like what do you think about Conor tweeting still at like 3:00 a.m. like coked out he he he he sent shots at me and Ryan talking [ __ ] but it's it's crazy coming from Connor who literally got out of the usada pool to do steroid like legit steroids so it's kind of wild and I was the biggest Connor fan for a long time in the last couple weeks ever since he sent that wasn't even a couple weeks ago probably a week ago I've been trying to hate him I've been trying to be like [ __ ] you Connor but I can't I love Connor I it's like I am excited for his fight coming up I'm excited I want you know I'm all about it what's the fight is it Chandler Chandler in June it's going to be big they just been trying to do it for a long time so I didn't know if it still still I think officially I think it's I think I think the craziest part about it is what like eight weeks before a fight that he's still like coked and drunk out of his mind who you got though who that's a good it is crazy that he still like he tweeted that deleted like 20 minutes later he was definitely [ __ ] up on well that's what I was going to say we can't just Grace past that do you is that that's a that's a bold thing to say do you you know he's on coke is that a is that are you [ __ ] gills I don't know anything but I know for certain that he's brother like look at the time of the tweets and look at what he's saying like also and he's like known for this simar tweets yeah yeah I don't know just manic brother I think he is I do think Ryan is I think he when he said he was playing into it a little bit I I think he's kind of using that I think he's [ __ ] crazy what what what would happen if you and Ryan boxed that's I mean there's only one way to find out he has a lot better chances of beating me in a boxing match than he does in a real fight keep up I do I I [ __ ] I truly believe in myself that's how I got to the [ __ ] position I'm in right now I can box I can throw hands um I don't think it'd be easy by any means I do think it's possible I beat him I'm not saying my my odds are great but I do believe I could beat Ryan Bo if there was anybody you could box for your first boxing match debut who are you Bo give an easy fight give me Deon Haney you give [Laughter] me honest answer uh I mean if we're I I would say Floyd if I Pi if I could sit here and pick who I box first boxing fight I pick Floyd because it would be the biggest most crazy most legendary fight maybe not most legendary some people for me okay but outside of that on a skill based level oh I I could hang with some good [ __ ] pro boxers I'm undefeated in boxing you think you think if you and uh ilot boxed that' be ilot is very very [ __ ] skilled boxing that's an interesting question so who what what professional boxer would you equate your PA Mike Tyson I know of Devon Haney now because Ryan Garcia beat him uh dvon Davis he's really short I know him um maybe smacking [ __ ] up though he does he that little guy he can't he can't ride roll coasters though that is true so there's a there's a tradeoff like Cruz fight he was riding a roller coaster no like I'm talking about like at the fair oh no you know like there there's a trade-off in life you know where things get weird it's like it's like yo he's really good but you can't even just hit Dante fan brother can't even ride the top not a Dante fan that's not what I'm wait what did what did I say to say I'm not a you didn't say I mean I don't think he knows that it's a short joke I don't think he picked up on you want me tell him I was joking shut the [ __ ] up I get I say that was a joke I'm what are you trying to say I'm but are you trying to insinuate that I'm short no honestly you're probably what five you're 5'9 you're like 5' seven and a half stop doing stop doing it stop doing that cuz [ __ ] is going to see this and be like he's 5'6 actually if you watching this and you think I'm 5'6 and you want to try me in person please any [ __ ] who see me out I'm punching your [ __ ] out I'm like 5'9 on a good day when when I'm lying to women I'm 5'10 for sure who's gonna ID me I'm wearing forces I'm a [ __ ] liar all right so now for the truth jakee he's like what like he's 5 No but don't do that bro all right all right we won't we'll cut that out like yeah n don't cut it out n don't see me and see these but you know dvon is 5'5 legit that's cool bro I know but is that not short just be honest is that five five short for a grown man for a grown man is that short you can be a fan I'm not I'm a fan of javante and he's five that's a little little bro all right the joke went over his head anyways so the short joke [ __ ] is trying to play me like I'm short no no no we're we're not we're not you're [ __ ] tall all right let's pivot yeah so um SI yeah sh shout out to the shout out to the pivot but but yeah like Jasper's a little riled up things are on edge he's a little he's a little turned up it's been a long day a long two days we've been shooting uh because we have a new [ __ ] company did we say we talk about that yet I we said in the beginning raise your arms up [ __ ] goed [ __ ] goed shout out to w a fun few days it's been a fun few days days you're going to see the content rolling out um but you speaking of but Ruby Rose did a good job oh my God I wanted to bite that M listen anyway if you're near wmart if you're watching this right now I don't give a [ __ ] what you're doing you could be taking care of your kid you could be taking care of your elderly parents [ __ ] them go to Walmart June 1st Nationwide I don't care if you in Pensacola you in Massachusetts all in places that sound [ __ ] stupid there's a Walmart there and you go there it's a better for you product vitamin ifuse number [ __ ] one yeah no basically I I think dialing back like the business story of it because you're also like a very smart businessman intellectual doing everything you do in and outside of the Ring which a lot of people don't have which contributes to you being uh the biggest in my opinion the biggest UFC star um but yeah we we basically I guess this is the podcast where we tell people where W came from but um we started building this company like a year and a half ago and really saw how all these other companies like as we move into better for you products and less harmful products we saw how the leaders in the space didn't have the best formulas didn't have the best manufacturing had all of these harmful substances in it and we're also brands from when I was like 9 years old I don't want to list names but they're still like having all the Shelf space in stores and I was just like this is wild like this is boring this is lame the the the we need something new we need something that's better uh males have vitamin uh deficiencies like crazy especially with magnesium Jasper just can't get enough of it uh especially with magnesium um and biotin is in the body wash uh vitamin E one two of the best vitamins for your skin and hair um but as The Story Goes long story short we we come up with this brand that represents so many things um but I think winning in everyday life whether you're the valedictorian whether you are the high school jock whether you're philanthropist now you have a product that you can embody and wear every single day that's increasing your vitamin intake that is less harmful to you that's where the idea came from and just being the winning formula in category uh went to Walmart pitched them the whole idea they [ __ ] loved it helped us build the brand even and come up with the scent profiles and all the things that are the the most popular um and this has been something I've wanted to do for so long we had to bring in the best people to be a part of it the winners in their category and that's number one Numero Uno sha Ali here um and he instantly saw the vision and already in the past couple of days it's been like super fun filming all the content behind yeah I was pumped when you [ __ ] called me appreciate you thinking of me and uh excited to help grow this business [ __ ] it's needed it's needed we're going to take over the whole bathroom you know tooed if you [ __ ] with the dogs and cows and chickens dog in you I know what I got that dog in me and I use it so be dog free baby am I missing anything with that no I think that was great the one the one thing I would touch on and you did in a way but it's it is body wash it is body spray it is deodorant but it also is there's an ethos that stands behind this brand which is the ethos that you stand for and it's the ethos that you stand for and the ethos that you stand for and the one that I stand for if I say ethos again I'm GNA start stumbling over my words but it's it's it's like you said it it doesn't the winners in life aren't just you you're on a big stage in life you're you're you're crushing it in every aspect financially you're a star you're leading your sport that's awesome on every [ __ ] level it's it's an encouragement to to young men all around the world to [ __ ] get up off their ass and get sh it don't matter if you score high on a test you whatever the [ __ ] it is that you do well maybe not so it matters what the [ __ ] you do but it also doesn't matter what the [ __ ] you do anybody is a winner as long as you put in the work and you have the will to win and I love it I I would say that's wrong I would say that not anybody is a winner and I think that's something that the brand also stands for like you really got to win you got to as you have the will to win no I'm just saying I think that's an important point cuz we live in a world today where a lot of people think everybody can be a winner that's not true if you Los you might be a loser and if you're a loser the good news is there's a hidden l in the logo actually we'll trace it for you with our graphic design team there's a hidden l in the logo because and I I I wanted to make sure that was was a thing because the biggest loss of my life turned out to be the biggest W in my life and I always had the saying like two L's make a w and when I lost to Tommy Fury it was embarrassing all these things but I realized I wasn't focused I wasn't as locked in as I could be the team around me from a boxing standpoint wasn't good I was having personal issues with relationships and all of these things that I had to shed and grow from and I grew into this new and completely different person but I wouldn't have done that if I didn't lose on the biggest stage possible and I think that was part of the ethos ethos ethos ethos of the brand was to encourage people that in their lowest moments to turn those into into their biggest W's eventually when Jake just said that the biggest loss of his life ended up being the biggest W of his life you said same yeah yeah same what what was that story for supposedly lost for lost to Cheeto back in 2020 August it it was I mean it sucked at the time but I it didn't suck too bad because I was like okay I didn't lose because I you know and it was different I wasn't I mean I was focused everything went good training camp everything was good but I was like that sucks I'm goingon to get that back someday when the time is right and then my last fight two two months ago in Miami headline I'm the champ defending my belt against that same guy how rewarding was that three and a half years later August three and a half years later boom beat his ass as a fan of yours it made it so sweet because of all the doubters that constantly like put you down and didn't believe in you and said he was going to destroy you and then you he literally like you embarrass him that was a performance of a life you embarrassed the [ __ ] out of him and I think that's literally a prime example of turning l l into into a w and I really that's what that's where the hidden l in the brand in the logo is um and representing that every single day when you see these products in your bathroom and when we say we have a saying it's not just a product it's a lifestyle absolutely trademarked Incorporated All Rights Reserved 2024 brother uh but but yeah man it's it's an honor to have you a part of this and uh we we really made what we think are the best products on the market from the body wash being exfoliating vitamin infused to the body spray what we found out is a lot of these fragrances like you get like these high-end designer brands that have like $500 colognes turns out it only cost them a dollar to make that and they're literally making like $499 on top of that so we had a fine fragrance house is what these places are called and we got the super expensive scents and gave it to people to what they're worth like we're not trying to these products are super super affordable and I think it's so funny because that's the world we live in where like you just label something and get like a European girl to go this is one of the lower priced men's care products on the market yeah if I'm not mistaken and it's it's the $500 fragrance in the affordable bottle because we want everyone we've been using a body wash in the past two days since we got the samples after the shoot and I personally want to say I got the in there you could bleep it out whatever you want to do W's winning n b genuinely that's that's the saying is the it's winning formula cuz it really is like it really is if if we're going to call our company [ __ ] W it has to be the best we the winners winning product indeed indeed winning customers all that type of [ __ ] indeed better Derek today he's just got a punch I'm not Li I talked to him before he left he wants to punch you up bro he's got a punchable face I like him though it's weird it's like God I like that guy but I want [ __ ] KO pick him up and like it's okay boom one more to the liing me earlier and I'm just letting you know don't shoot the messenger on God he said he wants to get in the ring with you I can call him really he oh yeah he he you want to call him yeah where is he at is wait uh no call no call he's coming up oh um he's talking smack he said he actually wants a spar I swear to God he said he wants to get percentage should I go you guys I literally out let that's crazy timeing saying talk [ __ ] to my face if you're going to talk [ __ ] that's crazy timing what were you saying they were telling me you want to get in the ring and Spar bit or they didn't say Spar they said fight yeah I'm down to do either but uh yeah no I'm just sick of the [ __ ] [ __ ] you've been saying on your podcast uh you called me you made fun of my weight and you called me gay I did not no I well okay okay you said that he wouldn't ever say that what you got to say what your chest that's what I just [ __ ] said bro I he was like oh if I if stand on it you talking to him you talking to him you ain't talking to me my assistant Sono would would piece you he's never boxed a day he never I'm here to fight your video I'm here to fight you what did I what was the first thing I said to you when when I saw you what was the first thing I said to you that we could fight no I said you look thick wait but when we were talking earlier weren't you saying he's a [ __ ] and you wanted to get a ring with him and all type [ __ ] what I'm saying right now say it then I just said the [ __ ] ring so we can after this we have a ring 2 feet away and he's a [ __ ] and whatever else you was saying to me yeah he's [ __ ] what about my hair say something about my hair I I already said that at the W shoot that you look like you haven't showered in [ __ ] a week okay all right d hey buddy hey hey what's your long-term play not no but see you guys you guys are making me seem crazy you're out of your mind he Derek Dereck go warm up hit the hit the heavy back H the warm up is almost listen legendary as send location dble PIV go warm up hey hey double pivot sit sit I'm not [ __ ] no I I'll sit and talk but I'm not [ __ ] no sit on the floor walk you want to take my seat hey how much how much of what's going on ch ch how much of what's going on is is a character versus like actual delusion how much is a character yeah decent uh I would say there are times where I know what I have to do for my boxing career to like like we all why is he laughing cuz you said career I beat your [ __ ] boy your [ __ ] [ __ ] bro you know what I I recall you did beat I recall calling steiny saying what the [ __ ] was that buddy I love steiny but I do remember watching that and thinking I wasn't proud of that I was not proud of that from steiny and I wish I wish he would come to the gym I wish he'd get in there I wish he'd train a little bit and I wish he would have a rematch but that's on him I've been trying to get the rematch but he's been ding me do you think Derek won he said I won I thought I thought he won I'd have to rewatch but I do think I come on baby the comments have [ __ ] dragged me for months after that [ __ ] 99% of the comments say I lost so please say it one more time Sean no I said it what I said it's like therapy or something no but to answer your question uh we all know uh uh as Fighters there's a side of promotion stop [ __ ] first of all Gus shut the [ __ ] up our our audio guys uh like can't stop laughing is that the facial his facial hair or is what he's saying bro that's bold of you to talk facial hair bro that's bold of you to I'm not Li you look dirty you look like Jeffrey done training right Jesus I train every day but anyway we know like there's two sides of of promotion as well as the actual athletic competition that is Combat Sports so there are times where I might play up a little bit like hey promoting but let him go let him go all right if you if all if you think I'm all promoting that I'll see you in the [ __ ] ring and I'll knock both you either of you out well um well Jake's a [ __ ] fat [ __ ] right now he weighs like 240 so I got I goty I gotta pick my words wisely like he's Jake's 240 I I know I know but like I'm not going to sit here and pick a fight against somebody that's 240 when I'm se's my weight class when I stopped you in one round like just like but when I was getting started out of come this is where I'm at since then I told him he could have somebody tag team I'm down I'm down to fight anybody in this [ __ ] room not one person in this room I'm the best part about this is like uh right after this we I think you're you're down to do like one round or three minutes right I mean I'd prefer 12 but we okay yeah 12 I mean that my biggest advantage in the ring ring is my cardio I do 12 12 okay so no I have a genuine question so five round I'm not I'm not one have I ever said I'm a UFC fighter no I'm just say we can box I'm just saying that's I'm used to five you want to do three we could do that aren't you trying to be a boxer with your [ __ ] Ryan Garcia call he would knock knock your [ __ ] ass out so quickly it wouldn't be close I'm one and0 pro boxing what are you actually I saw that video I saw video I'm also want to know thank you officially hey they count that's real commiss but uh I didn't mean I didn't mean to take I didn't mean to take over the pot I just wanted to a couple you definitely didn't yeah okay I try I'm trying to help you no we love you go warm up yeah yeah go warm up the bags don't warm up too much though don't get tired how much do you wa right now without Timberlands and jean shorts on high 120 low 13 no without lying though okay that [ __ ] is you think you got you got him one round I think I could beat him I think I can beat him I I think I could handicap myself to three just put on one glove I could do that what do you think actually happens now when you go downstairs and he gets in that ring like what's his plan that's what I don't get about him but that's why it's that's do me a favor that's why he's Cloud it up because love [ __ ] up [ __ ] he's going he's going to try to Yap he's going to try to talk please just go 100% yeah no actually actually please go 100% if he signs a consent form we'll have him no we've already got like multiple consent forms for better media with like death wavers [ __ ] no no no but he needs it he needs that I'll go like 40 no go like 75 Sean I'm I'm going to be honest bro don't even go 20% he's the nice [ __ ] bro don't do that bro you want him to go 100% no no to be honest but just like work with him and then just like maybe just just like a really good punching and then he'll give up 75% uh I'm nervous man I'm shaking for Derek yeah yeah that's good I understand that there a couple flinches if you Flinch hard enough the the wind coming off you will put him down let him walk you down and bait him boom sleeping what's your next upcoming fight a maraba jaaba and when is that uh not nothing yet I'm hoping for September maybe October maybe November maybe December I'm F ready to go baby what if it was next month I wouldn't be ready to go I like I like 10 to 12 weeks 10 to 12 he likes eight I mean I I normally do like 10 yeah just like but I've been super the first few weeks are [ __ ] pre-amps this Camp I'm channeling my Ryan Garcia would you ever do a Ryan Garcia regiment during Camp drink and smoke every night you do a little I I probably yeah I'm not actually doing that for the people out there he's locked in clocked in locked in locked in ready to go yeah May 20th we start but by the time the people see this it'll be uh June or something like that that is crazy you're fighting Mike that you fought Ben asran wrestler good good [ __ ] UFC was really good UF bit Tyron Woodley twice Anderson Silva knockout of the year with Nate Robinson can't forget about deji deji the the the goat do we say Gibb or is that like that's just crazy resume like literally [ __ ] C by way thank you Gib cuz we had a really good party after he knocked you the [ __ ] out who W we're skipping two professional boxers this always no no the recent ones this always happens I'm trying to just think cuz two cuz this is what everybody asked for this is what everybody asked for who who are the two professional boxers you fighted you got to name them Andre August and Ryan Borland go okay people don't people are like fight a pro boxer and then I do and then they're like that was boring as a man of combat he what were 10 and one nine and one nine and one what is your take on his [ __ ] all of his fights and who he's fighting in the competition dude I've been excited as [ __ ] since I started I remember you I remember the first time I watched was the Nate Robinson I watched that one at home and then uh I don't remember what it was after that but I remember watching Ben Asam in Atlanta I think that was the first time we actually met was right after the fight I think we hugged I was like y I picked you up you carried me back to the locker room that it was love at first sight that was crazy actually yeah actually I [ __ ] with him we became best friends like a couple days later you going to leave me hanging no no I would it's my eyebrow but uh yeah no I think he's obviously super skilled I think it's and I I it's inspired me even in the position I'm at UFC World Champ sexy you know what I mean like tall dark handsome TR inspired me just business the business uh side of things that you've done I've always thought putting on massive fight that's why I'm such a huge Conor fan cuz the pay-per-views he's done is so [ __ ] he's been fighting for four years and [ __ ] that he's been doing the massive fights the fights I get excited for there's a few UFC fights the high the big big fights that I get excited for but every time you fought even when uh Logan fought Floyd I was [ __ ] like excited like all fight week so i' I've been inspired from what you've done from a business side from the boxing side they even just start so not late but for a boxer but these boxers start when they're [ __ ] three four years old like Ryan and tank like they're young buck the Tik Tac I sent you of Devon Haney's debut fight yeah it's wild he was fighting a five foot Mexican in a in a bar was it Dante bro if I show you this [ __ ] oh no I did see that I did see that I did see that when you started even seeing that first video fighting Anderson Silva six fights in bro like do you know how insane that is he's one of the greatest correct me if I'm wrong UFC Strikers in history yeah 100% so does that make me one of the greatest UFC Strikers and one of the greatest wrestlers cuz wood but Ben ask was but Nate Diaz is ducking me in MMA oh am crazy I am weak that's a sick fight MMA I I wish it was that would happened right after the boxing same he's actually ducking it which is why it's crazy because he's not he's not in UFC no but we we upped it to 15 million damn that's crazy though that would be a I like Nate Diaz but that would be such a fun buildup he actually doesn't want to do it all Sean how do you genuinely Jake's not here it's me and you in a room actually how do you see that fight going for Jake what MMA him you're not here J for Nate in MMA keep it a bean God it's it's so hard to you're a big [ __ ] right now on what weight would it be5 185 I don't hate I don't I it's not a it's a winable fight for you I really do think that but Nate is so [ __ ] you would have to do what I did against aljo and morab do not let that [ __ ] grab you not that you can't wrestle cuz I know you can wrestle but once he starts grabbing you and doing Jiu-Jitsu if he gets on top his little he likes his little trips it would be hard for you to win I feel like if he if he started grappling just pure Jiu-Jitsu if it let's be real if it goes to the floor is he [ __ ] if he's on his back Nate's not like a super strong guy so if you learn how to like I mean I'm sure you know how to get up to a single legegg stuff like that but then you start getting your neck grabbed I don't know how much Jiu-Jitsu you know I mean Nate's a [ __ ] high Lev black belt um if you could keep it standing 100% there's winnable ways there if he if he went to the ground feel like he might be able to grab your neck no that that's exactly how I feel about it if I don't get guillotined yeah then I win the fight because even if he was on top take your back but even if he was on top of me I would just throw him off of me cuz he's also the weakest puncher I've ever fought like when he was hitting me I was I almost like started laughing I'm I'm not even saying this to talk [ __ ] out of everyone I've sparred in my whole entire life and everyone I fought his punches are even me we I don't think you ever landed a punch on me is that true well that's not true so I don't anyone no I'm literally not even talking [ __ ] which is why I think it's funny that he dropped Connor and [ __ ] cuz it's just like how Conor with like to the ground yeah like with a straight left hand yeah which is crazy like I I'm not just talking [ __ ] when I say that and I've told you I've literally told you this you told me this after the fight yeah I was like he is the weakest puncher I've ever fought in my life who's who's the weakest puncher you've ever you've ever come to face um there I mean there's been so many fights where I later didn't even get hit um uh does that like make you jaded at all when you get into a fight and you don't really get love that [ __ ] I prefer not to get hit at all but like if I was you and I wasn't get hit at all I'd probably work less no no no no I I know I don't get hit because I work that hard so if I didn't work hard I know I'd probably get hit I'm just a lazy [ __ ] so so here you are on top of the world we're launching [ __ ] W going to be a billion dollar business [ __ ] you I always forget uh UFC champ accomplishing all your goals what do you want next uh what are what is the threeyear fiveyear for Sean I I truly do want to get a boxing fight I'm not I'm not super set on that to where like I'm like going to be [ __ ] if it doesn't happen I do think it'll be interesting especially if I go out there knock morab out Ryan does his thing I think there's a [ __ ] sweet fight there if it doesn't happen not that worried about it want to go out there beat morab I'd like to you know if Max Max and Elia fight I would like to fight go move up to 45 fight the winner of that um you know maybe have three to five maybe have a few more kids definitely want another little baby I love kids my fite pump him out shout out to Danny who's your top pick in a boxing fight though if you if you could choose your Ryan now was like the I mean what he after dvon Beat Ryan I was like javante then Ryan goes out there does his thing really though I think Dante do you is that is that not a big [ __ ] leap Ryan like you said before he's been doing this his whole life one thing that's been proven is that the crossover it's it's not a good return Fury he did his thing okay the excep is the exception we've seen it with okay but then Anthony Joshua put his ass t was crazy super night night he was I'm I'm here for big fights like I wanted to get into the UFC and I wanted to make big fights watching Conor versus Floyd I'm like that [ __ ] happened really happened hey you versus Derek that could be as big as Connor in Floyd but no but I I think the craziest [ __ ] about Conor versus Floyd is that overall it was a W for everyone involved so there's certain fights where it just like doesn't matter what happens that's the world we live in yeah I mean UFC told me they said if the if the fight's big enough and it'll make the UFC money they'll do it what means more to you your your your record being pre or the amount of money you're making all right let me ask you something it's about to get real J's drunk Jasper's drunk as [ __ ] y record or money [ __ ] it depends the Gap like like the gap of money if it's like an extra 10 15 20 million but I lose a couple important fights probably not you just take like 150 million I'll be like like [ __ ] my record baby yeah it depends on the gap of money Jake Paul is not here right now just like a Mayweather Conor McGregor you taking that fight ver Jake yeah no he's my buddy I could I mean I don't I don't even no I no funny no there's you know what's funny is always in my Snapchat story once once a day pretty much someone says we knock out Jake Paul like there's every sing all the time for so long people just want to see me get [ __ ] is good though that's like the thing yeah but I'm sensitive it is funny though people [ __ ] love to hate confidence the craziest thing though actually about both of you like I met you very recently like I didn't realize you're as like normal as you are I don't know why I thought you violent like you guys are both like very goofy mellow and stupid and c and and awesome it's like the greatest thing ever like I couldn't believe when I met you you're like one of us like yeah I wouldn't think you're a [ __ ] yeah one of the coolest people in the world for sure yeah but not a lot of people uh can like I don't know we have like a weird it's hard toes Meat Heads I'm like this the this my dog I think it's a little bit of dark humor too it's like some [ __ ] up [ __ ] that we say off camera [ __ ] sometimes but I think it's like there's a certain yeah like that's how my whole group is back home it's like we all just we're all just kind of [ __ ] dumb I'm smart but like they're dumb well someone commented like yo Jake Paul's the dumbest genius in the world and I was just like I say that [ __ ] all the time you wed up the other day and I was like this is the most genius dumbass in the world no jokes Hey Brother chill buddy trying to get me cancelled no what how old are you 23 are you really yeah no you're not he's not is he what do you think think what did you think Oh no you're 267 27 what did you think he was I thought he was older I thought he was like 27 26 yeah a niggaer mature was that ladies you got a boo you got a girl you just be slanging she timeout right now I don't really talk about she don't time out it's a little tricky she not taking care of herself what do you guys think about Tom Brady R you watch it yeah they kept comp panning to you every 5 Seconds bro I swear there's a huge camer sitting there the whole time but it's cool to see Netflix going hard like that cuz they went hard they swing that meat around huha yeah let's pivot yeah just sorry about him I'm drunk man not yeah but but it was it was great it wasar they should have got rid of most of the football players going up there yeah there's a couple ones Ben afflac is that who that was on there that was wild that was so weird that was so weird it was cool to see how [ __ ] less sensitive people are becoming I feel like feel like it's recently like there's a big push back I think people got sick of it we went super super super PC for a long time people were like wait a second we like being able to say what we want to say I saw kill Tony say oh type of crazy [ __ ] on there that watch every [ __ ] Monday you were on kill Tony yeah how old are you actually buddy I'm a comedian Budd full time no yeah I was on that I was nervous as hell though I was like just being it's a live I do podcast once a week like me and Tim do our podcast every [ __ ] week but to be there in front of an audience live it's weird it's a different kind of well so you say Tim but let's let's talk about actually the fact that you get trained by by one of the greatest boxers of all time it's really that's something what's happened like that's crazy working with Canelo as your as your coach that's what I'm saying people don't going to be Ryan but like yeah that is true I never even thought about that for did you even know that this guy proba even know that that orange [ __ ] is nice wait will I get cancelled by the ginger community no you're black oh no my dad my dad's Ginger and I'm I'm like this [ __ ] is ginger bro he be shaving he be shaving his beard and I zoom in zoom in it's it's slightly orange so I'm a quarter ginger on South Park they made fun of Gingers and that [ __ ] made the news I [ __ ] with the ginger people but like y'all [ __ ] you like redhead girls oh yeah was Super Soaker but anyway yeah like y'all [ __ ] is orange and that's okay but back to you one of y'all that's not drunk I got a question cuz this guy clipped out a lot did Tim actually like you guys about him like saying to fight that was yeah that was real Tim always be talking [ __ ] to the like he's been doing that for so long so what happened he just talk I mean he just he Alo the knee's coming Alo you got to shoot Alo watch out for this like he's been saying that since I've been in the UFC like my debut vers terion where he was talking [ __ ] to terion too and uh he just does it every fight but this happened to just be crazy timing to like Tim you got Tim like alre you got to go and like literally he he like that's when he threw that left hand or whatever stepped into Southpaw and uh or stepped into Orthodox and got dropped it was it was funny the timing because he's like Al you got to go I don't I truly don't think that's why that's not why Alo went I bet you could I bet Alo didn't even hear that but Tim's always chirping and stuff but people on the internet are [ __ ] mad about that a lot of them actually like it I'll say majority of people are thinking that's the funniest [ __ ] ever there's a couple [ __ ] that are like you should be banned think it's a fight would you run the alra fight back or one and done never I like that why would I yeah am I supposed to top that you know what I'm saying I got love for Alo we had him on the show and he he seems like a good dude I actually don't mind Alo I does that ever happen where like you'll have a personal relationship with someone personal runin with them and it's all great but then now all of a sudden you have to fight each other I've never had I've not of running with someone that's been like uh more than like I've ran into aljo morab at the UFC I'm like hey what's up talk to him a little bit you know nothing no ill will um but I haven't had like a run with someone I actually lik them mhm and then at the fight them so you're not friends with any any other UFC fighters oh I have a there's there's a couple guys in my in my weight class that I train with at the lab that are like climbing the r uh ladders what happened with uh the 125 pounder I I don't even know his name and I'm not I'm just not like yeah what's his name I Alexander pania bro this story is actually kind of funny so 2016 I think it was it was like 3 and0 4 and0 and I was still fighting at like I fought at 125 not too long before that I fought at like 130 which is in a weight class was like so I wasn't like a 155 like I am now I was probably like 14 back then and uh Henry cejudo comes in I'm three or four and0 at the point at this point it comes in with this kid Alexander PTO just won The Ultimate Fighter I think he's got his UFC debut or it's his second UFC fight he's a couple weeks out from his fight I'm [ __ ] the night before me and Tim ripping bongs like hanging out being goofballs and [ __ ] so the next morning so we brought him in for sparring hry sudo brings in Alexander you're 4-0 he's King [ __ ] he he's just won The Ultimate Fighter and so they write the names on on the board who who you're sparring I'm like oh [ __ ] I got Alexander Pantoja versus me for one round one round he has three rounds so you write one one name then usually you you spar with one guy then they go out you spar with a fresh guy they go out spar with the fresh guy that's usually how it works so my name was just up there for one round that's it we Spar one round I didn't know anything about him cuz I I didn't really watch it like that 25 I don't really watch 25ers like that but somebody's like oh [ __ ] that's he a black belt he just won The Ultimate Fighter I was like oh [ __ ] I got to [ __ ] Focus up here first round boom Dro him with a liver kick and I wasn't going to post I record all my rounds I have so many sparring rounds like I wasn't going to post it was and for some reason I don't know why he would talk [ __ ] and bring it up cuz I literally I don't know you know know I don't know if you know how it works but you finish a guy the fight's over right no no did he um so I finished him the first round he hit him boom with the liver I posted the video yesterday and I've had it for a long time I didn't want to post it CU you don't post sparring like that but he just kept bringing it up so boom finished him first round um then uh after the first round round I go to walk out and Henry's over there crying box of Kleenex just like [ __ ] wiping his tears crying we want you for a second round so mad that this little like I was nobody just finished his dude he's in the UFC he's supposed to be the man finish him in the first round so Henry's crying saying he wants another round um so I piece him up again in the second round and I'm I'm dying at this point my lungs are burning I'm not in shape for fight I I'm nowhere near in Camp for a fight and I my lungs are hurting and uh Henry again crying blowing his nose and like I want you for a third and Benson comes in Benson Henderson absolute Legend comes in and was yelling cuz that's his it was the his gym the MMA lab we don't let people come in our gym and make us tired and blah blah blah and I'm [ __ ] just just huffing and puffing I just got done work in this dude for 10 minutes finished him in the first round did I say that liver kick um we'll put the footage I have the foot yeah it's right there insert the footage so third round come out boom piece him up again and he's so I don't know why he keeps bringing up this bringing this up in the media I think it's because people ask him but I don't know why he doesn't just say yeah yeah no no I don't want to talk about it he keeps saying like he's like oh I got in I found his range and [ __ ] I'm like bro you you stopped him in one round stopped him in round one and let him live and continue to fight for round two these delusional uh like wild people are weirdos but the reason I posted cuz he kept bringing it up exactly wait so is he the champ now at 125 yeah okay but why does he still want to talk [ __ ] to you if you got [ __ ] up that's what I'm saying I don't know either either you drop to 125 and get that no I can't drop to 125 that's too much now you're a thick [ __ ] I am a thick but yeah I SP I think it's important for up and cominging Spar uh fighters to record their rounds and watch their rounds not for that this reason you know but just to I've improve so much watching my sparring y I have thousands of rounds maybe not thousands hundreds of rounds from 10 years ago on my on my computer of uh it's like NFL team is watching footage the time [ __ ] 100% got to watch that [ __ ] that's I I have every single round recorded and and again I I don't post sparring either exactly you know put in a highlight video make a vlog boom we're sparring people but it's never like [ __ ] up your guy yeah exactly but Mike Perry honestly like what he's been doing is pretty Fu he went to Bare knuckle that [ __ ] just meant for him bare knuckle fighting it's crazy different going crazy he's doing good he's [ __ ] undefeated over there he's beating some really good guys stay over here [ __ ] [ __ ] only place that you should be getting tickets from is game time.co it's it's the only place I go it is the only place you can possibly go they have 110% price match guarantee that's what we use to get our tickets for the NBA Finals you can get $20 off your first order go to gametime.co JJ a $20 off your first order they're doing a deal specifically for y'all and you could see where your tickets are before you buy them seeing the seats they have all of the these great policies last 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platform there is Mike Paul versus Jake Tyson here's my official prediction tell us and even if even if it's against me like it's not it's not I do think you're going to beat Mike Tyson uh it's crazy that I even saying that out loud right now cuz you're fighting Mike Tyson it's [ __ ] crazy even just when we were walking down the the street today people all genders all ages knew you were fighting Mike Tyson it's such a massive fights live on Netflix which is [ __ ] crazy it's in a stadium which is [ __ ] crazy it is crazy I believe in you I see what you I see what you're doing I see you know that you believe in yourself Mike Tyson is uh hasn't fought in however long it's been so for him to just come up and get a fight be I I'm sure is going to be in as good a shape as he possibly could be in but it's just you know it's it's it's it's not his time right now I love Mike Tyson I never actually met him but I love Mike Tyson I do think Jake's gonna get the job done and I do think eight rounds eight two-minute rounds eight two-minute rounds I believe I believe you could put them away in the later rounds you know five six seven eight I do think you could put it put him down which is crazy to even [ __ ] think you rap yeah that's fire I'm just lazy and inconsistent that's not a w no that sh it is not you start using Brandon yell at him every day but cuz you can actually spit that's fire no but but people know him now from like podcasting they don't know he's a rapper and hurts his soul J sick name Lil jizz what J JZ that's good that's good you should switch your [ __ ] I switch my [ __ ] from come Master to kill Jas bro honestly though that's I think singing rapping spitting is one of the things that if I could switch talents be doing something like that that's good or twerking I ain't going to lie you shook that [ __ ] earlier I got a I got a thing on me you that [ __ ] wiggle a little bit let's let's pivot though cuz yep hit a pivot uh yeah do we have a speaker should we play Jasper's new song or something you got a new one I thought you were lazy some new [ __ ] go ahead play on your phone just put it in the speaker put it in the mic too this the [ __ ] I'm dropping when I'm Indie that sound decent I'm not rapping either I'm yapping that's not going to get you drunk yo I made this beat that's crazy I like the way you look I won't lie you got something I need you my with a fly girl like you doing with no guy a little sh don't really go outside I'm not crazy right place and right time you all smiles and pretty light brown [Music] [Music] like that better if I forget you but I just can't time saying do better and I'm sure you can find that guy that's worth all right cut it cut it cut it that's that's enough that's enough that's enough that's enough for real can't give the whole thing it's not out yet yeah hey good [ __ ] that's fire I'll be rapping though but that's some pop [ __ ] just cuz I can do it so why are you consistent cuz I'm lazy and jaded and and spoiled yeah it's unfortunate maam shout out to the homies for a lot of talented people out there that just are yeah don't smoke crack yo also there there is a parallel there don't do don't do that there's a parallel with the same thing he's talking about I think Fighters probably where it's like you could have all the talent in the world he's got that's why I get so [ __ ] mad at him it's cuz he has all the talent in the world really I get more pissed off than he gets and he could be a superstar but he just is lazy he doesn't put the work in he's not he's not strategic and it is hard when you got when you live in a crib in Puerto Rico right you got chefs and [ __ ] and you fly private with me yeah that's it that's it bro that's it you got to you got get paychecks and [ __ ] y'all got to evict me that's not a bad idea honestly I think we talked about it let's make I was I'm H we had a conversation but I just can't I can't because I love you so much I need you but then I'll probably be more like need you y yeah I guarante and then we you would still have to like fly in once a week to to do the pods and it would be resentment and then I I'll go out like and I'll try to start shooting at y'all oh my God I guarantee I would be in the position I'm in if I if I had money and like had already made it like financially had [ __ ] I wouldn't have made it that's why people think I'm crazy but CC the other side of it is like boom right so I'm from com California same hey shout out my [ __ ] yeah man I was homeless for the first half of my life mom's a drug addict dad's a gang member I've never had anything in my life right and my whole life has been music I dropped out in ninth grade I was like I'm going to make music my dad kicks me out he's like you can't live under this roof like be more like your brothers my brothers are [ __ ] star students one got a full ride scholarship loser all all type of [ __ ] nerd ass [ __ ] all those [ __ ] are fat and unemploy now one dropped out of school a full rise scholarship and is just sitting at home right so boom from having nothing to like me saying I'm going to risk everything that I have in my life to become a music artist and it works I get to a certain place and I'm like damn I did exactly I hit a ceiling right so it's like now I had to recalibrate he got a big record deal and then and then like use I crashed out and became a m addict for four four days a week for 30 like 90 days oh it's not bad but then I moved cuz my homeboy was like you need to move and I was like nah [ __ ] that I made a million I ain't going to move I'm going to maintain this lifestyle I'm a junkie but I'm rich yep I crashed out and was like yeah I need to move lost 60 lbs went to Puerto Rico locked in recalibrated and now I'm ready to be but that's that's here's the problem we run into now is that you've recalibrated and now it's still it's been 6 months the album's supposed to be 6 months ago and we're still waiting for the album that's the problem and that's what you got to work on never too late though let's start it let's get because you're vitamin deficient right yeah yeah cuz like a lot of people can't think straight when they're vitamin deficient and all that a week ago kind of elaborated on that so yeah this isn't therapy um I got shout out Suzie right right huh Susie but she's hot is she not you think my therapist you guys got the same one I could pee and vape on this podcast I got to go pee go pee I could pee yeah I mean I think we I think we end the episode because uh let's wrap it up you can get W available at Walmart anyway if you walk into Walmart whether you with your mom your daddy you by yourself you go in that [ __ ] men body care aisle you buy that and comment down below what you thought of the episode for um us being brain fried over and uh jper but Buzz also comment cuz this coming out when the product releases comment your favorite scent and sent $10,000 right no I'm send you 1,000 I ain't got 10,000 for you but I'll send you 1,000 I'll send someone 10,000 he'll send you 10,000 I'll send you a th000 and I'm going through the comments for sure anyway good luck Charlie and if you got a test soon good luck on that [ __ ] that's what we [Music] do what are those 8 O gloves I want you to know they were talking up there he ain't going easy so be ready all right legit be ready buddy I'm using these bags don't show Too Much don't show we're boxing we're boxing I don't I do that on accident sometimes just know that that might come up just keep your hands up I'm just saying I might throw that up I haven't knocked someone out in a while just cuz my last fight didn't go off it went off five rounds I've been like craving just putting someone's lights out lately it's weird versus your boy better Derek I I hope Sean isn't nice and just [ __ ] him up that's your that's your trainee [ __ ] D all righty folks welcome to your main event of the evening starting out first in the loser corner you have better day with a record of no wins no losses I beat ste's [ __ ] out no anything he is 5'7 120 lbs lost in the mile to better JoJo but he's still delusional in his fighting career and to my left in the winning Corner sponsored by W sugar sha Ali The Undefeated UFC champion of the world it's time to fight bring it to the center we already spoke about the rules in the locker room beforehand give me your glove give me your hand touch gloves I want a clean fair fight no no hits below the waist back to your Corners time you ready judge you ready and fight [Music] [Applause] I'm out of balance or something oh do Dodge that [ __ ] hold on hold on hold on hold [ __ ] come on come on just oh my God one back of the head no no no back of the head four ref didn't see it five six me in the eyes Walk This Way Walk This Way for me he's running Walk This Way for me my car run all right and we're in in that right that's called all right time time time one two that was a that was a slip four up six bro Rizo what the [ __ ] are you doing all right get up SLP all right come on time in come on got come on got you [ __ ] black I'm going to I need to work I need to see some work black UT D somebody said 10 seconds like 8 seconds ago all right great back to your corner back to your corner back to your corner stay in there you're doing good right now this feel good I feel good do you see that one I landed clean on his face I think we all terrible shut the [ __ ] up for once in your [ __ ] life shut the [ __ ] up Sean's doing half punches on him shut up I'll act like uh no don't act like bro I'm just I'm putting in work all right how this how you when you [ __ ] beat the old wash UFC fighters everybody comments you're fighting old was UFC fighters what do you think 10s I think they're right in in round two round two round two oh got him [ __ ] oh [Music] [ __ ] hey put that hey that that's a that's going to be a 10 count can't get me by the that's going to be a 10 count that's going to be a 10 count next time back in the just there going to be a 10 count next time get in there give me real quick get him with some you thank you perfect okay BL I'm going to need to see some more one two back to your corner white Corner neutral Corner 5 6 seven eight n look at me thank you bro come on you want to fight do you want to fight when I do you want to fight yes yeah wait wait time back in wake up time time time time time I promise okay it's to the floor the rules of transfer to MMA tap tap tap he's St he's T he's ta all right I block out all right you're good to go wait wait the fight was over get the [ __ ] out of the ring oh it's over it's over it's over it's over go you got it's over it's over it's over [Music]	__ ] when I say that and I've told you I've literally told you this you told me this after the fight yeah I was like he is the weakest puncher I've ever fought in my life who's who's the weakest puncher you've ever you've ever come to face um there I mean there's been so many fights where I later didn't even get hit um uh does that like make you jaded at all when you get into a fight and you don't really get love that [ __ ] I prefer not to get hit at all but like if I was you and I wasn't get hit at all I'd probably work less no no no no I I know I don't get hit because I work that hard so if I didn't work hard I know I'd probably get hit I'm just a lazy [ __ ] so so here you are on top of the world we're launching [ __ ] W going to be a billion dollar business [ __ ] you I always forget uh UFC champ accomplishing all your goals what do you want next uh what are what is the threeyear fiveyear for Sean I I truly do want to get a boxing fight I'm not I'm not super set on that to where like I'm like going to be [ __ ] if it doesn't happen I do think it'll be interesting especially if I go out there knock morab	8	6	4	when I say that and I've told you I've literally told you this you told me this after the fight yeah I was like he is the 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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXPZ1KzdpsY	4,103	mXPZ1KzdpsY	2024-06-20 00:00:00	well well well ladies and gentlemen do we have a special episode for you today none other than sugar Shan om Ali the current UFC bantamweight champion a legend in his own right this episode was off the cusp we were a little turned up Jasper was really really drunk so we weren't really prepared for this at all the conversations definitely got wild and obviously as you guys have seen over maybe the past week or so we launched a new company called w am men's carine in Walmart this company is so near and dear to my heart and I partnered with Shawn to bring this Vision to life amongst other celebrities artists and athletes that we are announcing over the next couple of weeks here get your w at Walmart it is very very very very very good stuff and yes you heard the news I am fighting Mike Perry on July 20th it is going down I'm still fighting Mike Tyson November 15th that is happening but I'm staying active knocking out Mike Perry on July 20th and I'm excited for y'all to listen to this episode and he the vision of w how it all came together and how Shawn got involved and then everything to do with Shawn's career this podcast has been a long time coming but prepare yourself for some idiocracy per usual uh this is [ __ ] with Jake Paul we have a secret handshake check it out AC let me get that stop playing mean yeah we created that because we actually have so many things to get into here this has been a long time coming Jasper did bring up something and the reason W was created was because the other products in the category had harmful dyes parabens sulfates hormone disruptors and so we wanted to create the better for you vitamin infused product and and Sean's a co-owner just signed today yesterday for the show but we we'll get into all of that we we've been you know bringing sea on for like we've been talking for like a month and a half yes sir yes sir um it is currently May we've been doing a lot of shoots this podcast will probably come out at post W launch you can get I'm so drunk I'm sorry y'all you can get it in uh Walmart every Walmart you in Paca Walmart get it in you in Pensacola it's in Walmart in Kentucky Walmart Walmart so basically uh we we brought in the greatest people in the world to help build W and Sean is one of those people but dialing everything back we will get into the company the body washes how this all came about but uh we've been wanting to do this podcast and thanks for joining us BR hey guys hey thanks for joining us right did you uh yeah I did you sh for an hour bro did you did you do do we know do we set the stage of the day and the fact that Jasper's slash right now okay cool y drunk is a [ __ ] y like double drunk yep yep yep you drunk yeah all that so um but just winding everything back uh I think we've been friends for a long time in fact you were the first guest on this show oh [ __ ] crazy Zoom crazy that's right that's right that's right the first ever episode you zoomed in and that's crazy we're thankful we're thankful for our friendship and it's pretty cool that now we're here again today uh getting less views than before and that's fire that's it congratulations less views we're not we're not it was it was a joke it was a joke if you watching this please like and comment cuz we falling off right now but man by the time this comes out you're going to be getting ready for me RAB how do you say his name I don't remember morab is iTab or or I don't know me that's got to be it me but you got to say it with the emphasis look meab mirab meab meab there you go there you go so yeah I should be getting ready hopefully I ain't got nothing scheduled hopefully uh you know Uncle Dana will call me say hey buddy you want to fight in in here and there and there and then I'm d b boom and that that's how that works what's up with everybody on your body though everybody talking [ __ ] even people youat I wanted to bring up yeah and he's like saying like he's trying to post about you even yesterday it is weird but when you concuss someone you know what I just say they don't think as well as they used to so I think he's still concussed and he's a little confused because he's talking [ __ ] still he not in his right mind because I can just throw up another post go because it's a throwback Thursday it's a throwback Friday do you think do you think people don't respect you enough cuz I I see that as your friend an unbiased like they just see social media and podcasts and the the hair and stuff like that and then they just sh week but I [ __ ] with you I appr that um I don't think it is well you can't you know I think it's fine I think you're jealous I ain't going to lie I got some inches under here let's smell that hair you can smell my [ __ ] must who I do think I feel a little bit disrespected as the champ but I think that last fight against Che kind of you know shut a little bit of people up canny go five rounds Cheeto beat me before the Alo fight um shut a lot of people up canny grapple didn't have to Grapple cuz he couldn't take me down yeah Alo couldn't take you down I think that was the biggest thing where they were like yo that's his weakness like yeah wrestle him down and then he just proved everyone wrong that's what's so interesting about this morab fight is he's supposedly well he is he's [ __ ] good at wrestling he's really really good at wrestling he's boring as [ __ ] and no one will there won't be one comment saying yeah right he's actually kind of fun not one person I'm com won I'm com you can I ask you something would you put yourself in your own top five Strikers in the UFC oh I'm yeah yo easily who's your Mount Rushmore strikker well I I mean I would unbiasedly I would put him as number one because adna is in like top three but he also like got beat by put that [ __ ] down boy he did uh bro I'm up there I'm up there Max is really good Max super his striking that's a good top five there that's four me Max Elia adaga uh I'm sure I'm missing some your with a one would it be that's that's a minus one Mount rmore is four yeah but I only got four but if you throw the five in it's a plus one isn't there only four yeah but but you ready to throw the five up I'm four all right that's my more but yeah once again uh this is a [ __ ] ass podcast so we apologize hey but something something you just touched on you talked about Fighters being fun and interesting how much and you're you're a superstar how much of you being a superstar how much of any fighter being a superstar comes down to them being fun and interesting as you are and how much of it comes down to their actual fighting good question uh well who's a super who who obviously Connor comes to mind I think he's he's a character he's fun he's interesting who else comes to mind is like a superstar I would say Izzy gives that off I think he's an interesting guy other than that there's not like a ton of fun like Ryan Garcia is doing a really good job right now of being [ __ ] interesting being a character uh I think that's fentel I think it's drugs as well I wouldn't deny that but he's still making people interested in Ryan versus Devon Haney was an interesting fight not because Devon Haney that dude's boring as [ __ ] you think he did them roids no I don't think Ryan did I think Devon needs to take that L he being a [ __ ] about I think the craziest [ __ ] you said to me and like I don't even know if we want to put this in there or bring it up but we we can always remove it but uh because of your your situation with the ostarine and you said to me like and it I like fully felt your energy you're like I swear on my daughter's life I never did that and you got popped for it yeah same thing happened uh to Ryan right now he popped for aost the low super low level a some [ __ ] like a trillionth of a gr the same thing happened to me uh so when that came out with Ryan like I truly truly didn't believe he took anything because it was the same [ __ ] and it happens to a lot of [ __ ] ostarine happens to how does that happen it's called the tainted supplement so if you're taking anything that has protein in it that's not third party tested uh could not just protein any kind of supplement that's not third party tested it's either NSF or there's a bunch of different third party tests but if you're not if you're taking something that doesn't have that there's chances there could be something in it but austram people pop for that all the time my case was not that big of a deal cuz I wasn't as huge of a star as I am now but it still was like a big deal because of my name the reason it's going so crazy right now is because Ryan G is a superstar so people are freaking out but it happens to a lot of athletes I just before we move past it I just on that Superstar topic how is that is that Superstar factor that that someone like you has someone like Ryan has someone like Connor has is it something you're born with or is it is it a practice is it something you can learn and do you sit back and like think like oh how can I go viral today how can I I think it's both I think you have to want to be a superstar there's some guys in the UFC like I want to make more money I want this I want that but they don't really want to be a superstar you you got to want it you got to you got to have some kind of vision a long time before well and and also like who you are as a person you have to have that like Fire Within still though like before you got into want famous I want to be in the NFL I want to be NBA I wanted to be a [ __ ] athlete when I was young was instilled I was just for whatever reason I wanted to make it when I was young I'm from H in Montana like small ass can I ask you something what's your opinion on like the take b nickel takes like where he's like super friendly and humble and like I think he's a sweet ass [ __ ] they love him but like bro that [ __ ] pisses me off I think that [ __ ] is cool too n like you're a hum like [ __ ] talk your [ __ ] you're what 670 like bro talk your [ __ ] like it it kind of bores me no I get yeah I mean that's that's some people's opinion is like he's too nice too humble too that but he's being himself um but he's also super young in the sport I think he and he's still pretty what is he 28 you're in a sport of War if I was playing like [ __ ] Cricket I would be like yeah like but that's that's the thing is for for for a character like him what it seems like is that's what he's in is the sport of war and that's it he's not in the sport of entertainment he's a nice ass sweetheart get there is some people that that understand both sides of things but I also have respect for and I see when someone's that's strictly in the sport of if I play chess with you I'm going to be like good game and I'm going to shake your hand I talk [ __ ] be F ass to a PO it I'm going to be like [ __ ] you you need to get better at whatever you're doing dial dialing it back a little bit um to the aost stream thing I think it's like what do you think about Conor tweeting still at like 3:00 a.m. like coked out he he he he sent shots at me and Ryan talking [ __ ] but it's it's crazy coming from Connor who literally got out of the usada pool to do steroid like legit steroids so it's kind of wild and I was the biggest Connor fan for a long time in the last couple weeks ever since he sent that wasn't even a couple weeks ago probably a week ago I've been trying to hate him I've been trying to be like [ __ ] you Connor but I can't I love Connor I it's like I am excited for his fight coming up I'm excited I want you know I'm all about it what's the fight is it Chandler Chandler in June it's going to be big they just been trying to do it for a long time so I didn't know if it still still I think officially I think it's I think I think the craziest part about it is what like eight weeks before a fight that he's still like coked and drunk out of his mind who you got though who that's a good it is crazy that he still like he tweeted that deleted like 20 minutes later he was definitely [ __ ] up on well that's what I was going to say we can't just Grace past that do you is that that's a that's a bold thing to say do you you know he's on coke is that a is that are you [ __ ] gills I don't know anything but I know for certain that he's brother like look at the time of the tweets and look at what he's saying like also and he's like known for this simar tweets yeah yeah I don't know just manic brother I think he is I do think Ryan is I think he when he said he was playing into it a little bit I I think he's kind of using that I think he's [ __ ] crazy what what what would happen if you and Ryan boxed that's I mean there's only one way to find out he has a lot better chances of beating me in a boxing match than he does in a real fight keep up I do I I [ __ ] I truly believe in myself that's how I got to the [ __ ] position I'm in right now I can box I can throw hands um I don't think it'd be easy by any means I do think it's possible I beat him I'm not saying my my odds are great but I do believe I could beat Ryan Bo if there was anybody you could box for your first boxing match debut who are you Bo give an easy fight give me Deon Haney you give [Laughter] me honest answer uh I mean if we're I I would say Floyd if I Pi if I could sit here and pick who I box first boxing fight I pick Floyd because it would be the biggest most crazy most legendary fight maybe not most legendary some people for me okay but outside of that on a skill based level oh I I could hang with some good [ __ ] pro boxers I'm undefeated in boxing you think you think if you and uh ilot boxed that' be ilot is very very [ __ ] skilled boxing that's an interesting question so who what what professional boxer would you equate your PA Mike Tyson I know of Devon Haney now because Ryan Garcia beat him uh dvon Davis he's really short I know him um maybe smacking [ __ ] up though he does he that little guy he can't he can't ride roll coasters though that is true so there's a there's a tradeoff like Cruz fight he was riding a roller coaster no like I'm talking about like at the fair oh no you know like there there's a trade-off in life you know where things get weird it's like it's like yo he's really good but you can't even just hit Dante fan brother can't even ride the top not a Dante fan that's not what I'm wait what did what did I say to say I'm not a you didn't say I mean I don't think he knows that it's a short joke I don't think he picked up on you want me tell him I was joking shut the [ __ ] up I get I say that was a joke I'm what are you trying to say I'm but are you trying to insinuate that I'm short no honestly you're probably what five you're 5'9 you're like 5' seven and a half stop doing stop doing it stop doing that cuz [ __ ] is going to see this and be like he's 5'6 actually if you watching this and you think I'm 5'6 and you want to try me in person please any [ __ ] who see me out I'm punching your [ __ ] out I'm like 5'9 on a good day when when I'm lying to women I'm 5'10 for sure who's gonna ID me I'm wearing forces I'm a [ __ ] liar all right so now for the truth jakee he's like what like he's 5 No but don't do that bro all right all right we won't we'll cut that out like yeah n don't cut it out n don't see me and see these but you know dvon is 5'5 legit that's cool bro I know but is that not short just be honest is that five five short for a grown man for a grown man is that short you can be a fan I'm not I'm a fan of javante and he's five that's a little little bro all right the joke went over his head anyways so the short joke [ __ ] is trying to play me like I'm short no no no we're we're not we're not you're [ __ ] tall all right let's pivot yeah so um SI yeah sh shout out to the shout out to the pivot but but yeah like Jasper's a little riled up things are on edge he's a little he's a little turned up it's been a long day a long two days we've been shooting uh because we have a new [ __ ] company did we say we talk about that yet I we said in the beginning raise your arms up [ __ ] goed [ __ ] goed shout out to w a fun few days it's been a fun few days days you're going to see the content rolling out um but you speaking of but Ruby Rose did a good job oh my God I wanted to bite that M listen anyway if you're near wmart if you're watching this right now I don't give a [ __ ] what you're doing you could be taking care of your kid you could be taking care of your elderly parents [ __ ] them go to Walmart June 1st Nationwide I don't care if you in Pensacola you in Massachusetts all in places that sound [ __ ] stupid there's a Walmart there and you go there it's a better for you product vitamin ifuse number [ __ ] one yeah no basically I I think dialing back like the business story of it because you're also like a very smart businessman intellectual doing everything you do in and outside of the Ring which a lot of people don't have which contributes to you being uh the biggest in my opinion the biggest UFC star um but yeah we we basically I guess this is the podcast where we tell people where W came from but um we started building this company like a year and a half ago and really saw how all these other companies like as we move into better for you products and less harmful products we saw how the leaders in the space didn't have the best formulas didn't have the best manufacturing had all of these harmful substances in it and we're also brands from when I was like 9 years old I don't want to list names but they're still like having all the Shelf space in stores and I was just like this is wild like this is boring this is lame the the the we need something new we need something that's better uh males have vitamin uh deficiencies like crazy especially with magnesium Jasper just can't get enough of it uh especially with magnesium um and biotin is in the body wash uh vitamin E one two of the best vitamins for your skin and hair um but as The Story Goes long story short we we come up with this brand that represents so many things um but I think winning in everyday life whether you're the valedictorian whether you are the high school jock whether you're philanthropist now you have a product that you can embody and wear every single day that's increasing your vitamin intake that is less harmful to you that's where the idea came from and just being the winning formula in category uh went to Walmart pitched them the whole idea they [ __ ] loved it helped us build the brand even and come up with the scent profiles and all the things that are the the most popular um and this has been something I've wanted to do for so long we had to bring in the best people to be a part of it the winners in their category and that's number one Numero Uno sha Ali here um and he instantly saw the vision and already in the past couple of days it's been like super fun filming all the content behind yeah I was pumped when you [ __ ] called me appreciate you thinking of me and uh excited to help grow this business [ __ ] it's needed it's needed we're going to take over the whole bathroom you know tooed if you [ __ ] with the dogs and cows and chickens dog in you I know what I got that dog in me and I use it so be dog free baby am I missing anything with that no I think that was great the one the one thing I would touch on and you did in a way but it's it is body wash it is body spray it is deodorant but it also is there's an ethos that stands behind this brand which is the ethos that you stand for and it's the ethos that you stand for and the ethos that you stand for and the one that I stand for if I say ethos again I'm GNA start stumbling over my words but it's it's it's like you said it it doesn't the winners in life aren't just you you're on a big stage in life you're you're you're crushing it in every aspect financially you're a star you're leading your sport that's awesome on every [ __ ] level it's it's an encouragement to to young men all around the world to [ __ ] get up off their ass and get sh it don't matter if you score high on a test you whatever the [ __ ] it is that you do well maybe not so it matters what the [ __ ] you do but it also doesn't matter what the [ __ ] you do anybody is a winner as long as you put in the work and you have the will to win and I love it I I would say that's wrong I would say that not anybody is a winner and I think that's something that the brand also stands for like you really got to win you got to as you have the will to win no I'm just saying I think that's an important point cuz we live in a world today where a lot of people think everybody can be a winner that's not true if you Los you might be a loser and if you're a loser the good news is there's a hidden l in the logo actually we'll trace it for you with our graphic design team there's a hidden l in the logo because and I I I wanted to make sure that was was a thing because the biggest loss of my life turned out to be the biggest W in my life and I always had the saying like two L's make a w and when I lost to Tommy Fury it was embarrassing all these things but I realized I wasn't focused I wasn't as locked in as I could be the team around me from a boxing standpoint wasn't good I was having personal issues with relationships and all of these things that I had to shed and grow from and I grew into this new and completely different person but I wouldn't have done that if I didn't lose on the biggest stage possible and I think that was part of the ethos ethos ethos ethos of the brand was to encourage people that in their lowest moments to turn those into into their biggest W's eventually when Jake just said that the biggest loss of his life ended up being the biggest W of his life you said same yeah yeah same what what was that story for supposedly lost for lost to Cheeto back in 2020 August it it was I mean it sucked at the time but I it didn't suck too bad because I was like okay I didn't lose because I you know and it was different I wasn't I mean I was focused everything went good training camp everything was good but I was like that sucks I'm goingon to get that back someday when the time is right and then my last fight two two months ago in Miami headline I'm the champ defending my belt against that same guy how rewarding was that three and a half years later August three and a half years later boom beat his ass as a fan of yours it made it so sweet because of all the doubters that constantly like put you down and didn't believe in you and said he was going to destroy you and then you he literally like you embarrass him that was a performance of a life you embarrassed the [ __ ] out of him and I think that's literally a prime example of turning l l into into a w and I really that's what that's where the hidden l in the brand in the logo is um and representing that every single day when you see these products in your bathroom and when we say we have a saying it's not just a product it's a lifestyle absolutely trademarked Incorporated All Rights Reserved 2024 brother uh but but yeah man it's it's an honor to have you a part of this and uh we we really made what we think are the best products on the market from the body wash being exfoliating vitamin infused to the body spray what we found out is a lot of these fragrances like you get like these high-end designer brands that have like $500 colognes turns out it only cost them a dollar to make that and they're literally making like $499 on top of that so we had a fine fragrance house is what these places are called and we got the super expensive scents and gave it to people to what they're worth like we're not trying to these products are super super affordable and I think it's so funny because that's the world we live in where like you just label something and get like a European girl to go this is one of the lower priced men's care products on the market yeah if I'm not mistaken and it's it's the $500 fragrance in the affordable bottle because we want everyone we've been using a body wash in the past two days since we got the samples after the shoot and I personally want to say I got the in there you could bleep it out whatever you want to do W's winning n b genuinely that's that's the saying is the it's winning formula cuz it really is like it really is if if we're going to call our company [ __ ] W it has to be the best we the winners winning product indeed indeed winning customers all that type of [ __ ] indeed better Derek today he's just got a punch I'm not Li I talked to him before he left he wants to punch you up bro he's got a punchable face I like him though it's weird it's like God I like that guy but I want [ __ ] KO pick him up and like it's okay boom one more to the liing me earlier and I'm just letting you know don't shoot the messenger on God he said he wants to get in the ring with you I can call him really he oh yeah he he you want to call him yeah where is he at is wait uh no call no call he's coming up oh um he's talking smack he said he actually wants a spar I swear to God he said he wants to get percentage should I go you guys I literally out let that's crazy timeing saying talk [ __ ] to my face if you're going to talk [ __ ] that's crazy timing what were you saying they were telling me you want to get in the ring and Spar bit or they didn't say Spar they said fight yeah I'm down to do either but uh yeah no I'm just sick of the [ __ ] [ __ ] you've been saying on your podcast uh you called me you made fun of my weight and you called me gay I did not no I well okay okay you said that he wouldn't ever say that what you got to say what your chest that's what I just [ __ ] said bro I he was like oh if I if stand on it you talking to him you talking to him you ain't talking to me my assistant Sono would would piece you he's never boxed a day he never I'm here to fight your video I'm here to fight you what did I what was the first thing I said to you when when I saw you what was the first thing I said to you that we could fight no I said you look thick wait but when we were talking earlier weren't you saying he's a [ __ ] and you wanted to get a ring with him and all type [ __ ] what I'm saying right now say it then I just said the [ __ ] ring so we can after this we have a ring 2 feet away and he's a [ __ ] and whatever else you was saying to me yeah he's [ __ ] what about my hair say something about my hair I I already said that at the W shoot that you look like you haven't showered in [ __ ] a week okay all right d hey buddy hey hey what's your long-term play not no but see you guys you guys are making me seem crazy you're out of your mind he Derek Dereck go warm up hit the hit the heavy back H the warm up is almost listen legendary as send location dble PIV go warm up hey hey double pivot sit sit I'm not [ __ ] no I I'll sit and talk but I'm not [ __ ] no sit on the floor walk you want to take my seat hey how much how much of what's going on ch ch how much of what's going on is is a character versus like actual delusion how much is a character yeah decent uh I would say there are times where I know what I have to do for my boxing career to like like we all why is he laughing cuz you said career I beat your [ __ ] boy your [ __ ] [ __ ] bro you know what I I recall you did beat I recall calling steiny saying what the [ __ ] was that buddy I love steiny but I do remember watching that and thinking I wasn't proud of that I was not proud of that from steiny and I wish I wish he would come to the gym I wish he'd get in there I wish he'd train a little bit and I wish he would have a rematch but that's on him I've been trying to get the rematch but he's been ding me do you think Derek won he said I won I thought I thought he won I'd have to rewatch but I do think I come on baby the comments have [ __ ] dragged me for months after that [ __ ] 99% of the comments say I lost so please say it one more time Sean no I said it what I said it's like therapy or something no but to answer your question uh we all know uh uh as Fighters there's a side of promotion stop [ __ ] first of all Gus shut the [ __ ] up our our audio guys uh like can't stop laughing is that the facial his facial hair or is what he's saying bro that's bold of you to talk facial hair bro that's bold of you to I'm not Li you look dirty you look like Jeffrey done training right Jesus I train every day but anyway we know like there's two sides of of promotion as well as the actual athletic competition that is Combat Sports so there are times where I might play up a little bit like hey promoting but let him go let him go all right if you if all if you think I'm all promoting that I'll see you in the [ __ ] ring and I'll knock both you either of you out well um well Jake's a [ __ ] fat [ __ ] right now he weighs like 240 so I got I goty I gotta pick my words wisely like he's Jake's 240 I I know I know but like I'm not going to sit here and pick a fight against somebody that's 240 when I'm se's my weight class when I stopped you in one round like just like but when I was getting started out of come this is where I'm at since then I told him he could have somebody tag team I'm down I'm down to fight anybody in this [ __ ] room not one person in this room I'm the best part about this is like uh right after this we I think you're you're down to do like one round or three minutes right I mean I'd prefer 12 but we okay yeah 12 I mean that my biggest advantage in the ring ring is my cardio I do 12 12 okay so no I have a genuine question so five round I'm not I'm not one have I ever said I'm a UFC fighter no I'm just say we can box I'm just saying that's I'm used to five you want to do three we could do that aren't you trying to be a boxer with your [ __ ] Ryan Garcia call he would knock knock your [ __ ] ass out so quickly it wouldn't be close I'm one and0 pro boxing what are you actually I saw that video I saw video I'm also want to know thank you officially hey they count that's real commiss but uh I didn't mean I didn't mean to take I didn't mean to take over the pot I just wanted to a couple you definitely didn't yeah okay I try I'm trying to help you no we love you go warm up yeah yeah go warm up the bags don't warm up too much though don't get tired how much do you wa right now without Timberlands and jean shorts on high 120 low 13 no without lying though okay that [ __ ] is you think you got you got him one round I think I could beat him I think I can beat him I I think I could handicap myself to three just put on one glove I could do that what do you think actually happens now when you go downstairs and he gets in that ring like what's his plan that's what I don't get about him but that's why it's that's do me a favor that's why he's Cloud it up because love [ __ ] up [ __ ] he's going he's going to try to Yap he's going to try to talk please just go 100% yeah no actually actually please go 100% if he signs a consent form we'll have him no we've already got like multiple consent forms for better media with like death wavers [ __ ] no no no but he needs it he needs that I'll go like 40 no go like 75 Sean I'm I'm going to be honest bro don't even go 20% he's the nice [ __ ] bro don't do that bro you want him to go 100% no no to be honest but just like work with him and then just like maybe just just like a really good punching and then he'll give up 75% uh I'm nervous man I'm shaking for Derek yeah yeah that's good I understand that there a couple flinches if you Flinch hard enough the the wind coming off you will put him down let him walk you down and bait him boom sleeping what's your next upcoming fight a maraba jaaba and when is that uh not nothing yet I'm hoping for September maybe October maybe November maybe December I'm F ready to go baby what if it was next month I wouldn't be ready to go I like I like 10 to 12 weeks 10 to 12 he likes eight I mean I I normally do like 10 yeah just like but I've been super the first few weeks are [ __ ] pre-amps this Camp I'm channeling my Ryan Garcia would you ever do a Ryan Garcia regiment during Camp drink and smoke every night you do a little I I probably yeah I'm not actually doing that for the people out there he's locked in clocked in locked in locked in ready to go yeah May 20th we start but by the time the people see this it'll be uh June or something like that that is crazy you're fighting Mike that you fought Ben asran wrestler good good [ __ ] UFC was really good UF bit Tyron Woodley twice Anderson Silva knockout of the year with Nate Robinson can't forget about deji deji the the the goat do we say Gibb or is that like that's just crazy resume like literally [ __ ] C by way thank you Gib cuz we had a really good party after he knocked you the [ __ ] out who W we're skipping two professional boxers this always no no the recent ones this always happens I'm trying to just think cuz two cuz this is what everybody asked for this is what everybody asked for who who are the two professional boxers you fighted you got to name them Andre August and Ryan Borland go okay people don't people are like fight a pro boxer and then I do and then they're like that was boring as a man of combat he what were 10 and one nine and one nine and one what is your take on his [ __ ] all of his fights and who he's fighting in the competition dude I've been excited as [ __ ] since I started I remember you I remember the first time I watched was the Nate Robinson I watched that one at home and then uh I don't remember what it was after that but I remember watching Ben Asam in Atlanta I think that was the first time we actually met was right after the fight I think we hugged I was like y I picked you up you carried me back to the locker room that it was love at first sight that was crazy actually yeah actually I [ __ ] with him we became best friends like a couple days later you going to leave me hanging no no I would it's my eyebrow but uh yeah no I think he's obviously super skilled I think it's and I I it's inspired me even in the position I'm at UFC World Champ sexy you know what I mean like tall dark handsome TR inspired me just business the business uh side of things that you've done I've always thought putting on massive fight that's why I'm such a huge Conor fan cuz the pay-per-views he's done is so [ __ ] he's been fighting for four years and [ __ ] that he's been doing the massive fights the fights I get excited for there's a few UFC fights the high the big big fights that I get excited for but every time you fought even when uh Logan fought Floyd I was [ __ ] like excited like all fight week so i' I've been inspired from what you've done from a business side from the boxing side they even just start so not late but for a boxer but these boxers start when they're [ __ ] three four years old like Ryan and tank like they're young buck the Tik Tac I sent you of Devon Haney's debut fight yeah it's wild he was fighting a five foot Mexican in a in a bar was it Dante bro if I show you this [ __ ] oh no I did see that I did see that I did see that when you started even seeing that first video fighting Anderson Silva six fights in bro like do you know how insane that is he's one of the greatest correct me if I'm wrong UFC Strikers in history yeah 100% so does that make me one of the greatest UFC Strikers and one of the greatest wrestlers cuz wood but Ben ask was but Nate Diaz is ducking me in MMA oh am crazy I am weak that's a sick fight MMA I I wish it was that would happened right after the boxing same he's actually ducking it which is why it's crazy because he's not he's not in UFC no but we we upped it to 15 million damn that's crazy though that would be a I like Nate Diaz but that would be such a fun buildup he actually doesn't want to do it all Sean how do you genuinely Jake's not here it's me and you in a room actually how do you see that fight going for Jake what MMA him you're not here J for Nate in MMA keep it a bean God it's it's so hard to you're a big [ __ ] right now on what weight would it be5 185 I don't hate I don't I it's not a it's a winable fight for you I really do think that but Nate is so [ __ ] you would have to do what I did against aljo and morab do not let that [ __ ] grab you not that you can't wrestle cuz I know you can wrestle but once he starts grabbing you and doing Jiu-Jitsu if he gets on top his little he likes his little trips it would be hard for you to win I feel like if he if he started grappling just pure Jiu-Jitsu if it let's be real if it goes to the floor is he [ __ ] if he's on his back Nate's not like a super strong guy so if you learn how to like I mean I'm sure you know how to get up to a single legegg stuff like that but then you start getting your neck grabbed I don't know how much Jiu-Jitsu you know I mean Nate's a [ __ ] high Lev black belt um if you could keep it standing 100% there's winnable ways there if he if he went to the ground feel like he might be able to grab your neck no that that's exactly how I feel about it if I don't get guillotined yeah then I win the fight because even if he was on top take your back but even if he was on top of me I would just throw him off of me cuz he's also the weakest puncher I've ever fought like when he was hitting me I was I almost like started laughing I'm I'm not even saying this to talk [ __ ] out of everyone I've sparred in my whole entire life and everyone I fought his punches are even me we I don't think you ever landed a punch on me is that true well that's not true so I don't anyone no I'm literally not even talking [ __ ] which is why I think it's funny that he dropped Connor and [ __ ] cuz it's just like how Conor with like to the ground yeah like with a straight left hand yeah which is crazy like I I'm not just talking [ __ ] when I say that and I've told you I've literally told you this you told me this after the fight yeah I was like he is the weakest puncher I've ever fought in my life who's who's the weakest puncher you've ever you've ever come to face um there I mean there's been so many fights where I later didn't even get hit um uh does that like make you jaded at all when you get into a fight and you don't really get love that [ __ ] I prefer not to get hit at all but like if I was you and I wasn't get hit at all I'd probably work less no no no no I I know I don't get hit because I work that hard so if I didn't work hard I know I'd probably get hit I'm just a lazy [ __ ] so so here you are on top of the world we're launching [ __ ] W going to be a billion dollar business [ __ ] you I always forget uh UFC champ accomplishing all your goals what do you want next uh what are what is the threeyear fiveyear for Sean I I truly do want to get a boxing fight I'm not I'm not super set on that to where like I'm like going to be [ __ ] if it doesn't happen I do think it'll be interesting especially if I go out there knock morab out Ryan does his thing I think there's a [ __ ] sweet fight there if it doesn't happen not that worried about it want to go out there beat morab I'd like to you know if Max Max and Elia fight I would like to fight go move up to 45 fight the winner of that um you know maybe have three to five maybe have a few more kids definitely want another little baby I love kids my fite pump him out shout out to Danny who's your top pick in a boxing fight though if you if you could choose your Ryan now was like the I mean what he after dvon Beat Ryan I was like javante then Ryan goes out there does his thing really though I think Dante do you is that is that not a big [ __ ] leap Ryan like you said before he's been doing this his whole life one thing that's been proven is that the crossover it's it's not a good return Fury he did his thing okay the excep is the exception we've seen it with okay but then Anthony Joshua put his ass t was crazy super night night he was I'm I'm here for big fights like I wanted to get into the UFC and I wanted to make big fights watching Conor versus Floyd I'm like that [ __ ] happened really happened hey you versus Derek that could be as big as Connor in Floyd but no but I I think the craziest [ __ ] about Conor versus Floyd is that overall it was a W for everyone involved so there's certain fights where it just like doesn't matter what happens that's the world we live in yeah I mean UFC told me they said if the if the fight's big enough and it'll make the UFC money they'll do it what means more to you your your your record being pre or the amount of money you're making all right let me ask you something it's about to get real J's drunk Jasper's drunk as [ __ ] y record or money [ __ ] it depends the Gap like like the gap of money if it's like an extra 10 15 20 million but I lose a couple important fights probably not you just take like 150 million I'll be like like [ __ ] my record baby yeah it depends on the gap of money Jake Paul is not here right now just like a Mayweather Conor McGregor you taking that fight ver Jake yeah no he's my buddy I could I mean I don't I don't even no I no funny no there's you know what's funny is always in my Snapchat story once once a day pretty much someone says we knock out Jake Paul like there's every sing all the time for so long people just want to see me get [ __ ] is good though that's like the thing yeah but I'm sensitive it is funny though people [ __ ] love to hate confidence the craziest thing though actually about both of you like I met you very recently like I didn't realize you're as like normal as you are I don't know why I thought you violent like you guys are both like very goofy mellow and stupid and c and and awesome it's like the greatest thing ever like I couldn't believe when I met you you're like one of us like yeah I wouldn't think you're a [ __ ] yeah one of the coolest people in the world for sure yeah but not a lot of people uh can like I don't know we have like a weird it's hard toes Meat Heads I'm like this the this my dog I think it's a little bit of dark humor too it's like some [ __ ] up [ __ ] that we say off camera [ __ ] sometimes but I think it's like there's a certain yeah like that's how my whole group is back home it's like we all just we're all just kind of [ __ ] dumb I'm smart but like they're dumb well someone commented like yo Jake Paul's the dumbest genius in the world and I was just like I say that [ __ ] all the time you wed up the other day and I was like this is the most genius dumbass in the world no jokes Hey Brother chill buddy trying to get me cancelled no what how old are you 23 are you really yeah no you're not he's not is he what do you think think what did you think Oh no you're 267 27 what did you think he was I thought he was older I thought he was like 27 26 yeah a niggaer mature was that ladies you got a boo you got a girl you just be slanging she timeout right now I don't really talk about she don't time out it's a little tricky she not taking care of herself what do you guys think about Tom Brady R you watch it yeah they kept comp panning to you every 5 Seconds bro I swear there's a huge camer sitting there the whole time but it's cool to see Netflix going hard like that cuz they went hard they swing that meat around huha yeah let's pivot yeah just sorry about him I'm drunk man not yeah but but it was it was great it wasar they should have got rid of most of the football players going up there yeah there's a couple ones Ben afflac is that who that was on there that was wild that was so weird that was so weird it was cool to see how [ __ ] less sensitive people are becoming I feel like feel like it's recently like there's a big push back I think people got sick of it we went super super super PC for a long time people were like wait a second we like being able to say what we want to say I saw kill Tony say oh type of crazy [ __ ] on there that watch every [ __ ] Monday you were on kill Tony yeah how old are you actually buddy I'm a comedian Budd full time no yeah I was on that I was nervous as hell though I was like just being it's a live I do podcast once a week like me and Tim do our podcast every [ __ ] week but to be there in front of an audience live it's weird it's a different kind of well so you say Tim but let's let's talk about actually the fact that you get trained by by one of the greatest boxers of all time it's really that's something what's happened like that's crazy working with Canelo as your as your coach that's what I'm saying people don't going to be Ryan but like yeah that is true I never even thought about that for did you even know that this guy proba even know that that orange [ __ ] is nice wait will I get cancelled by the ginger community no you're black oh no my dad my dad's Ginger and I'm I'm like this [ __ ] is ginger bro he be shaving he be shaving his beard and I zoom in zoom in it's it's slightly orange so I'm a quarter ginger on South Park they made fun of Gingers and that [ __ ] made the news I [ __ ] with the ginger people but like y'all [ __ ] you like redhead girls oh yeah was Super Soaker but anyway yeah like y'all [ __ ] is orange and that's okay but back to you one of y'all that's not drunk I got a question cuz this guy clipped out a lot did Tim actually like you guys about him like saying to fight that was yeah that was real Tim always be talking [ __ ] to the like he's been doing that for so long so what happened he just talk I mean he just he Alo the knee's coming Alo you got to shoot Alo watch out for this like he's been saying that since I've been in the UFC like my debut vers terion where he was talking [ __ ] to terion too and uh he just does it every fight but this happened to just be crazy timing to like Tim you got Tim like alre you got to go and like literally he he like that's when he threw that left hand or whatever stepped into Southpaw and uh or stepped into Orthodox and got dropped it was it was funny the timing because he's like Al you got to go I don't I truly don't think that's why that's not why Alo went I bet you could I bet Alo didn't even hear that but Tim's always chirping and stuff but people on the internet are [ __ ] mad about that a lot of them actually like it I'll say majority of people are thinking that's the funniest [ __ ] ever there's a couple [ __ ] that are like you should be banned think it's a fight would you run the alra fight back or one and done never I like that why would I yeah am I supposed to top that you know what I'm saying I got love for Alo we had him on the show and he he seems like a good dude I actually don't mind Alo I does that ever happen where like you'll have a personal relationship with someone personal runin with them and it's all great but then now all of a sudden you have to fight each other I've never had I've not of running with someone that's been like uh more than like I've ran into aljo morab at the UFC I'm like hey what's up talk to him a little bit you know nothing no ill will um but I haven't had like a run with someone I actually lik them mhm and then at the fight them so you're not friends with any any other UFC fighters oh I have a there's there's a couple guys in my in my weight class that I train with at the lab that are like climbing the r uh ladders what happened with uh the 125 pounder I I don't even know his name and I'm not I'm just not like yeah what's his name I Alexander pania bro this story is actually kind of funny so 2016 I think it was it was like 3 and0 4 and0 and I was still fighting at like I fought at 125 not too long before that I fought at like 130 which is in a weight class was like so I wasn't like a 155 like I am now I was probably like 14 back then and uh Henry cejudo comes in I'm three or four and0 at the point at this point it comes in with this kid Alexander PTO just won The Ultimate Fighter I think he's got his UFC debut or it's his second UFC fight he's a couple weeks out from his fight I'm [ __ ] the night before me and Tim ripping bongs like hanging out being goofballs and [ __ ] so the next morning so we brought him in for sparring hry sudo brings in Alexander you're 4-0 he's King [ __ ] he he's just won The Ultimate Fighter and so they write the names on on the board who who you're sparring I'm like oh [ __ ] I got Alexander Pantoja versus me for one round one round he has three rounds so you write one one name then usually you you spar with one guy then they go out you spar with a fresh guy they go out spar with the fresh guy that's usually how it works so my name was just up there for one round that's it we Spar one round I didn't know anything about him cuz I I didn't really watch it like that 25 I don't really watch 25ers like that but somebody's like oh [ __ ] that's he a black belt he just won The Ultimate Fighter I was like oh [ __ ] I got to [ __ ] Focus up here first round boom Dro him with a liver kick and I wasn't going to post I record all my rounds I have so many sparring rounds like I wasn't going to post it was and for some reason I don't know why he would talk [ __ ] and bring it up cuz I literally I don't know you know know I don't know if you know how it works but you finish a guy the fight's over right no no did he um so I finished him the first round he hit him boom with the liver I posted the video yesterday and I've had it for a long time I didn't want to post it CU you don't post sparring like that but he just kept bringing it up so boom finished him first round um then uh after the first round round I go to walk out and Henry's over there crying box of Kleenex just like [ __ ] wiping his tears crying we want you for a second round so mad that this little like I was nobody just finished his dude he's in the UFC he's supposed to be the man finish him in the first round so Henry's crying saying he wants another round um so I piece him up again in the second round and I'm I'm dying at this point my lungs are burning I'm not in shape for fight I I'm nowhere near in Camp for a fight and I my lungs are hurting and uh Henry again crying blowing his nose and like I want you for a third and Benson comes in Benson Henderson absolute Legend comes in and was yelling cuz that's his it was the his gym the MMA lab we don't let people come in our gym and make us tired and blah blah blah and I'm [ __ ] just just huffing and puffing I just got done work in this dude for 10 minutes finished him in the first round did I say that liver kick um we'll put the footage I have the foot yeah it's right there insert the footage so third round come out boom piece him up again and he's so I don't know why he keeps bringing up this bringing this up in the media I think it's because people ask him but I don't know why he doesn't just say yeah yeah no no I don't want to talk about it he keeps saying like he's like oh I got in I found his range and [ __ ] I'm like bro you you stopped him in one round stopped him in round one and let him live and continue to fight for round two these delusional uh like wild people are weirdos but the reason I posted cuz he kept bringing it up exactly wait so is he the champ now at 125 yeah okay but why does he still want to talk [ __ ] to you if you got [ __ ] up that's what I'm saying I don't know either either you drop to 125 and get that no I can't drop to 125 that's too much now you're a thick [ __ ] I am a thick but yeah I SP I think it's important for up and cominging Spar uh fighters to record their rounds and watch their rounds not for that this reason you know but just to I've improve so much watching my sparring y I have thousands of rounds maybe not thousands hundreds of rounds from 10 years ago on my on my computer of uh it's like NFL team is watching footage the time [ __ ] 100% got to watch that [ __ ] that's I I have every single round recorded and and again I I don't post sparring either exactly you know put in a highlight video make a vlog boom we're sparring people but it's never like [ __ ] up your guy yeah exactly but Mike Perry honestly like what he's been doing is pretty Fu he went to Bare knuckle that [ __ ] just meant for him bare knuckle fighting it's crazy different going crazy he's doing good he's [ __ ] undefeated over there he's beating some really good guys stay over here [ __ ] [ __ ] only place that you should be getting tickets from is game time.co it's it's the only place I go it is the only place you can possibly go they have 110% price match guarantee that's what we use to get our tickets for the NBA Finals you can get $20 off your first order go to gametime.co JJ a $20 off your first order they're doing a deal specifically for y'all and you could see where your tickets are before you buy them seeing the seats they have all of the these great policies last 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platform there is Mike Paul versus Jake Tyson here's my official prediction tell us and even if even if it's against me like it's not it's not I do think you're going to beat Mike Tyson uh it's crazy that I even saying that out loud right now cuz you're fighting Mike Tyson it's [ __ ] crazy even just when we were walking down the the street today people all genders all ages knew you were fighting Mike Tyson it's such a massive fights live on Netflix which is [ __ ] crazy it's in a stadium which is [ __ ] crazy it is crazy I believe in you I see what you I see what you're doing I see you know that you believe in yourself Mike Tyson is uh hasn't fought in however long it's been so for him to just come up and get a fight be I I'm sure is going to be in as good a shape as he possibly could be in but it's just you know it's it's it's it's not his time right now I love Mike Tyson I never actually met him but I love Mike Tyson I do think Jake's gonna get the job done and I do think eight rounds eight two-minute rounds eight two-minute rounds I believe I believe you could put them away in the later rounds you know five six seven eight I do think you could put it put him down which is crazy to even [ __ ] think you rap yeah that's fire I'm just lazy and inconsistent that's not a w no that sh it is not you start using Brandon yell at him every day but cuz you can actually spit that's fire no but but people know him now from like podcasting they don't know he's a rapper and hurts his soul J sick name Lil jizz what J JZ that's good that's good you should switch your [ __ ] I switch my [ __ ] from come Master to kill Jas bro honestly though that's I think singing rapping spitting is one of the things that if I could switch talents be doing something like that that's good or twerking I ain't going to lie you shook that [ __ ] earlier I got a I got a thing on me you that [ __ ] wiggle a little bit let's let's pivot though cuz yep hit a pivot uh yeah do we have a speaker should we play Jasper's new song or something you got a new one I thought you were lazy some new [ __ ] go ahead play on your phone just put it in the speaker put it in the mic too this the [ __ ] I'm dropping when I'm Indie that sound decent I'm not rapping either I'm yapping that's not going to get you drunk yo I made this beat that's crazy I like the way you look I won't lie you got something I need you my with a fly girl like you doing with no guy a little sh don't really go outside I'm not crazy right place and right time you all smiles and pretty light brown [Music] [Music] like that better if I forget you but I just can't time saying do better and I'm sure you can find that guy that's worth all right cut it cut it cut it that's that's enough that's enough that's enough that's enough for real can't give the whole thing it's not out yet yeah hey good [ __ ] that's fire I'll be rapping though but that's some pop [ __ ] just cuz I can do it so why are you consistent cuz I'm lazy and jaded and and spoiled yeah it's unfortunate maam shout out to the homies for a lot of talented people out there that just are yeah don't smoke crack yo also there there is a parallel there don't do don't do that there's a parallel with the same thing he's talking about I think Fighters probably where it's like you could have all the talent in the world he's got that's why I get so [ __ ] mad at him it's cuz he has all the talent in the world really I get more pissed off than he gets and he could be a superstar but he just is lazy he doesn't put the work in he's not he's not strategic and it is hard when you got when you live in a crib in Puerto Rico right you got chefs and [ __ ] and you fly private with me yeah that's it that's it bro that's it you got to you got get paychecks and [ __ ] y'all got to evict me that's not a bad idea honestly I think we talked about it let's make I was I'm H we had a conversation but I just can't I can't because I love you so much I need you but then I'll probably be more like need you y yeah I guarante and then we you would still have to like fly in once a week to to do the pods and it would be resentment and then I I'll go out like and I'll try to start shooting at y'all oh my God I guarantee I would be in the position I'm in if I if I had money and like had already made it like financially had [ __ ] I wouldn't have made it that's why people think I'm crazy but CC the other side of it is like boom right so I'm from com California same hey shout out my [ __ ] yeah man I was homeless for the first half of my life mom's a drug addict dad's a gang member I've never had anything in my life right and my whole life has been music I dropped out in ninth grade I was like I'm going to make music my dad kicks me out he's like you can't live under this roof like be more like your brothers my brothers are [ __ ] star students one got a full ride scholarship loser all all type of [ __ ] nerd ass [ __ ] all those [ __ ] are fat and unemploy now one dropped out of school a full rise scholarship and is just sitting at home right so boom from having nothing to like me saying I'm going to risk everything that I have in my life to become a music artist and it works I get to a certain place and I'm like damn I did exactly I hit a ceiling right so it's like now I had to recalibrate he got a big record deal and then and then like use I crashed out and became a m addict for four four days a week for 30 like 90 days oh it's not bad but then I moved cuz my homeboy was like you need to move and I was like nah [ __ ] that I made a million I ain't going to move I'm going to maintain this lifestyle I'm a junkie but I'm rich yep I crashed out and was like yeah I need to move lost 60 lbs went to Puerto Rico locked in recalibrated and now I'm ready to be but that's that's here's the problem we run into now is that you've recalibrated and now it's still it's been 6 months the album's supposed to be 6 months ago and we're still waiting for the album that's the problem and that's what you got to work on never too late though let's start it let's get because you're vitamin deficient right yeah yeah cuz like a lot of people can't think straight when they're vitamin deficient and all that a week ago kind of elaborated on that so yeah this isn't therapy um I got shout out Suzie right right huh Susie but she's hot is she not you think my therapist you guys got the same one I could pee and vape on this podcast I got to go pee go pee I could pee yeah I mean I think we I think we end the episode because uh let's wrap it up you can get W available at Walmart anyway if you walk into Walmart whether you with your mom your daddy you by yourself you go in that [ __ ] men body care aisle you buy that and comment down below what you thought of the episode for um us being brain fried over and uh jper but Buzz also comment cuz this coming out when the product releases comment your favorite scent and sent $10,000 right no I'm send you 1,000 I ain't got 10,000 for you but I'll send you 1,000 I'll send someone 10,000 he'll send you 10,000 I'll send you a th000 and I'm going through the comments for sure anyway good luck Charlie and if you got a test soon good luck on that [ __ ] that's what we [Music] do what are those 8 O gloves I want you to know they were talking up there he ain't going easy so be ready all right legit be ready buddy I'm using these bags don't show Too Much don't show we're boxing we're boxing I don't I do that on accident sometimes just know that that might come up just keep your hands up I'm just saying I might throw that up I haven't knocked someone out in a while just cuz my last fight didn't go off it went off five rounds I've been like craving just putting someone's lights out lately it's weird versus your boy better Derek I I hope Sean isn't nice and just [ __ ] him up that's your that's your trainee [ __ ] D all righty folks welcome to your main event of the evening starting out first in the loser corner you have better day with a record of no wins no losses I beat ste's [ __ ] out no anything he is 5'7 120 lbs lost in the mile to better JoJo but he's still delusional in his fighting career and to my left in the winning Corner sponsored by W sugar sha Ali The Undefeated UFC champion of the world it's time to fight bring it to the center we already spoke about the rules in the locker room beforehand give me your glove give me your hand touch gloves I want a clean fair fight no no hits below the waist back to your Corners time you ready judge you ready and fight [Music] [Applause] I'm out of balance or something oh do Dodge that [ __ ] hold on hold on hold on hold [ __ ] come on come on just oh my God one back of the head no no no back of the head four ref didn't see it five six me in the eyes Walk This Way Walk This Way for me he's running Walk This Way for me my car run all right and we're in in that right that's called all right time time time one two that was a that was a slip four up six bro Rizo what the [ __ ] are you doing all right get up SLP all right come on time in come on got come on got you [ __ ] black I'm going to I need to work I need to see some work black UT D somebody said 10 seconds like 8 seconds ago all right great back to your corner back to your corner back to your corner stay in there you're doing good right now this feel good I feel good do you see that one I landed clean on his face I think we all terrible shut the [ __ ] up for once in your [ __ ] life shut the [ __ ] up Sean's doing half punches on him shut up I'll act like uh no don't act like bro I'm just I'm putting in work all right how this how you when you [ __ ] beat the old wash UFC fighters everybody comments you're fighting old was UFC fighters what do you think 10s I think they're right in in round two round two round two oh got him [ __ ] oh [Music] [ __ ] hey put that hey that that's a that's going to be a 10 count can't get me by the that's going to be a 10 count that's going to be a 10 count next time back in the just there going to be a 10 count next time get in there give me real quick get him with some you thank you perfect okay BL I'm going to need to see some more one two back to your corner white Corner neutral Corner 5 6 seven eight n look at me thank you bro come on you want to fight do you want to fight when I do you want to fight yes yeah wait wait time back in wake up time time time time time I promise okay it's to the floor the rules of transfer to MMA tap tap tap he's St he's T he's ta all right I block out all right you're good to go wait wait the fight was over get the [ __ ] out of the ring oh it's over it's over it's over it's over go you got it's over it's over it's over [Music]	out Ryan does his thing I think there's a [ __ ] sweet fight there if it doesn't happen not that worried about it want to go out there beat morab I'd like to you know if Max Max and Elia fight I would like to fight go move up to 45 fight the winner of that um you know maybe have three to five maybe have a few more kids definitely want another little baby I love kids my fite pump him out shout out to Danny who's your top pick in a boxing fight though if you if you could choose your Ryan now was like the I mean what he after dvon Beat Ryan I was like javante then Ryan goes out there does his thing really though I think Dante do you is that is that not a big [ __ ] leap Ryan like you said before he's been doing this his whole life one thing that's been proven is that the crossover it's it's not a good return Fury he did his thing okay the excep is the exception we've seen it with okay but then Anthony Joshua put his ass t was crazy super night night he was I'm I'm here for big fights like I wanted to get into the UFC and I wanted to make big fights watching Conor versus Floyd I'm like that [ __ ] happened really happened hey you versus Derek that could be as big as Connor	6	8	4	out Ryan does his thing I think there's a sweet fight there if it doesn't happen not that worried about it want to go out there beat morab I'd like to you know if Max Max and Elia fight I would like to fight go move up to 45 fight the winner of that um you know maybe have three to five maybe have a few more kids definitely want another little baby I love kids	if you if you could choose your Ryan now was like the I mean what he after dvon Beat Ryan I was like javante then Ryan goes out there does his thing really though I think Dante do you is that is that not a big leap Ryan like you said before he's been doing this his whole life one thing that's been proven is that the crossover it's it's not a good return Fury he did his thing okay the excep is the exception we've seen it with okay but then Anthony Joshua put his ass t was crazy super night night he was	6,4,8	3,-1,5	6	4	8	3	-1	5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXPZ1KzdpsY	4,103	mXPZ1KzdpsY	2024-06-20 00:00:00	well well well ladies and gentlemen do we have a special episode for you today none other than sugar Shan om Ali the current UFC bantamweight champion a legend in his own right this episode was off the cusp we were a little turned up Jasper was really really drunk so we weren't really prepared for this at all the conversations definitely got wild and obviously as you guys have seen over maybe the past week or so we launched a new company called w am men's carine in Walmart this company is so near and dear to my heart and I partnered with Shawn to bring this Vision to life amongst other celebrities artists and athletes that we are announcing over the next couple of weeks here get your w at Walmart it is very very very very very good stuff and yes you heard the news I am fighting Mike Perry on July 20th it is going down I'm still fighting Mike Tyson November 15th that is happening but I'm staying active knocking out Mike Perry on July 20th and I'm excited for y'all to listen to this episode and he the vision of w how it all came together and how Shawn got involved and then everything to do with Shawn's career this podcast has been a long time coming but prepare yourself for some idiocracy per usual uh this is [ __ ] with Jake Paul we have a secret handshake check it out AC let me get that stop playing mean yeah we created that because we actually have so many things to get into here this has been a long time coming Jasper did bring up something and the reason W was created was because the other products in the category had harmful dyes parabens sulfates hormone disruptors and so we wanted to create the better for you vitamin infused product and and Sean's a co-owner just signed today yesterday for the show but we we'll get into all of that we we've been you know bringing sea on for like we've been talking for like a month and a half yes sir yes sir um it is currently May we've been doing a lot of shoots this podcast will probably come out at post W launch you can get I'm so drunk I'm sorry y'all you can get it in uh Walmart every Walmart you in Paca Walmart get it in you in Pensacola it's in Walmart in Kentucky Walmart Walmart so basically uh we we brought in the greatest people in the world to help build W and Sean is one of those people but dialing everything back we will get into the company the body washes how this all came about but uh we've been wanting to do this podcast and thanks for joining us BR hey guys hey thanks for joining us right did you uh yeah I did you sh for an hour bro did you did you do do we know do we set the stage of the day and the fact that Jasper's slash right now okay cool y drunk is a [ __ ] y like double drunk yep yep yep you drunk yeah all that so um but just winding everything back uh I think we've been friends for a long time in fact you were the first guest on this show oh [ __ ] crazy Zoom crazy that's right that's right that's right the first ever episode you zoomed in and that's crazy we're thankful we're thankful for our friendship and it's pretty cool that now we're here again today uh getting less views than before and that's fire that's it congratulations less views we're not we're not it was it was a joke it was a joke if you watching this please like and comment cuz we falling off right now but man by the time this comes out you're going to be getting ready for me RAB how do you say his name I don't remember morab is iTab or or I don't know me that's got to be it me but you got to say it with the emphasis look meab mirab meab meab there you go there you go so yeah I should be getting ready hopefully I ain't got nothing scheduled hopefully uh you know Uncle Dana will call me say hey buddy you want to fight in in here and there and there and then I'm d b boom and that that's how that works what's up with everybody on your body though everybody talking [ __ ] even people youat I wanted to bring up yeah and he's like saying like he's trying to post about you even yesterday it is weird but when you concuss someone you know what I just say they don't think as well as they used to so I think he's still concussed and he's a little confused because he's talking [ __ ] still he not in his right mind because I can just throw up another post go because it's a throwback Thursday it's a throwback Friday do you think do you think people don't respect you enough cuz I I see that as your friend an unbiased like they just see social media and podcasts and the the hair and stuff like that and then they just sh week but I [ __ ] with you I appr that um I don't think it is well you can't you know I think it's fine I think you're jealous I ain't going to lie I got some inches under here let's smell that hair you can smell my [ __ ] must who I do think I feel a little bit disrespected as the champ but I think that last fight against Che kind of you know shut a little bit of people up canny go five rounds Cheeto beat me before the Alo fight um shut a lot of people up canny grapple didn't have to Grapple cuz he couldn't take me down yeah Alo couldn't take you down I think that was the biggest thing where they were like yo that's his weakness like yeah wrestle him down and then he just proved everyone wrong that's what's so interesting about this morab fight is he's supposedly well he is he's [ __ ] good at wrestling he's really really good at wrestling he's boring as [ __ ] and no one will there won't be one comment saying yeah right he's actually kind of fun not one person I'm com won I'm com you can I ask you something would you put yourself in your own top five Strikers in the UFC oh I'm yeah yo easily who's your Mount Rushmore strikker well I I mean I would unbiasedly I would put him as number one because adna is in like top three but he also like got beat by put that [ __ ] down boy he did uh bro I'm up there I'm up there Max is really good Max super his striking that's a good top five there that's four me Max Elia adaga uh I'm sure I'm missing some your with a one would it be that's that's a minus one Mount rmore is four yeah but I only got four but if you throw the five in it's a plus one isn't there only four yeah but but you ready to throw the five up I'm four all right that's my more but yeah once again uh this is a [ __ ] ass podcast so we apologize hey but something something you just touched on you talked about Fighters being fun and interesting how much and you're you're a superstar how much of you being a superstar how much of any fighter being a superstar comes down to them being fun and interesting as you are and how much of it comes down to their actual fighting good question uh well who's a super who who obviously Connor comes to mind I think he's he's a character he's fun he's interesting who else comes to mind is like a superstar I would say Izzy gives that off I think he's an interesting guy other than that there's not like a ton of fun like Ryan Garcia is doing a really good job right now of being [ __ ] interesting being a character uh I think that's fentel I think it's drugs as well I wouldn't deny that but he's still making people interested in Ryan versus Devon Haney was an interesting fight not because Devon Haney that dude's boring as [ __ ] you think he did them roids no I don't think Ryan did I think Devon needs to take that L he being a [ __ ] about I think the craziest [ __ ] you said to me and like I don't even know if we want to put this in there or bring it up but we we can always remove it but uh because of your your situation with the ostarine and you said to me like and it I like fully felt your energy you're like I swear on my daughter's life I never did that and you got popped for it yeah same thing happened uh to Ryan right now he popped for aost the low super low level a some [ __ ] like a trillionth of a gr the same thing happened to me uh so when that came out with Ryan like I truly truly didn't believe he took anything because it was the same [ __ ] and it happens to a lot of [ __ ] ostarine happens to how does that happen it's called the tainted supplement so if you're taking anything that has protein in it that's not third party tested uh could not just protein any kind of supplement that's not third party tested it's either NSF or there's a bunch of different third party tests but if you're not if you're taking something that doesn't have that there's chances there could be something in it but austram people pop for that all the time my case was not that big of a deal cuz I wasn't as huge of a star as I am now but it still was like a big deal because of my name the reason it's going so crazy right now is because Ryan G is a superstar so people are freaking out but it happens to a lot of athletes I just before we move past it I just on that Superstar topic how is that is that Superstar factor that that someone like you has someone like Ryan has someone like Connor has is it something you're born with or is it is it a practice is it something you can learn and do you sit back and like think like oh how can I go viral today how can I I think it's both I think you have to want to be a superstar there's some guys in the UFC like I want to make more money I want this I want that but they don't really want to be a superstar you you got to want it you got to you got to have some kind of vision a long time before well and and also like who you are as a person you have to have that like Fire Within still though like before you got into want famous I want to be in the NFL I want to be NBA I wanted to be a [ __ ] athlete when I was young was instilled I was just for whatever reason I wanted to make it when I was young I'm from H in Montana like small ass can I ask you something what's your opinion on like the take b nickel takes like where he's like super friendly and humble and like I think he's a sweet ass [ __ ] they love him but like bro that [ __ ] pisses me off I think that [ __ ] is cool too n like you're a hum like [ __ ] talk your [ __ ] you're what 670 like bro talk your [ __ ] like it it kind of bores me no I get yeah I mean that's that's some people's opinion is like he's too nice too humble too that but he's being himself um but he's also super young in the sport I think he and he's still pretty what is he 28 you're in a sport of War if I was playing like [ __ ] Cricket I would be like yeah like but that's that's the thing is for for for a character like him what it seems like is that's what he's in is the sport of war and that's it he's not in the sport of entertainment he's a nice ass sweetheart get there is some people that that understand both sides of things but I also have respect for and I see when someone's that's strictly in the sport of if I play chess with you I'm going to be like good game and I'm going to shake your hand I talk [ __ ] be F ass to a PO it I'm going to be like [ __ ] you you need to get better at whatever you're doing dial dialing it back a little bit um to the aost stream thing I think it's like what do you think about Conor tweeting still at like 3:00 a.m. like coked out he he he he sent shots at me and Ryan talking [ __ ] but it's it's crazy coming from Connor who literally got out of the usada pool to do steroid like legit steroids so it's kind of wild and I was the biggest Connor fan for a long time in the last couple weeks ever since he sent that wasn't even a couple weeks ago probably a week ago I've been trying to hate him I've been trying to be like [ __ ] you Connor but I can't I love Connor I it's like I am excited for his fight coming up I'm excited I want you know I'm all about it what's the fight is it Chandler Chandler in June it's going to be big they just been trying to do it for a long time so I didn't know if it still still I think officially I think it's I think I think the craziest part about it is what like eight weeks before a fight that he's still like coked and drunk out of his mind who you got though who that's a good it is crazy that he still like he tweeted that deleted like 20 minutes later he was definitely [ __ ] up on well that's what I was going to say we can't just Grace past that do you is that that's a that's a bold thing to say do you you know he's on coke is that a is that are you [ __ ] gills I don't know anything but I know for certain that he's brother like look at the time of the tweets and look at what he's saying like also and he's like known for this simar tweets yeah yeah I don't know just manic brother I think he is I do think Ryan is I think he when he said he was playing into it a little bit I I think he's kind of using that I think he's [ __ ] crazy what what what would happen if you and Ryan boxed that's I mean there's only one way to find out he has a lot better chances of beating me in a boxing match than he does in a real fight keep up I do I I [ __ ] I truly believe in myself that's how I got to the [ __ ] position I'm in right now I can box I can throw hands um I don't think it'd be easy by any means I do think it's possible I beat him I'm not saying my my odds are great but I do believe I could beat Ryan Bo if there was anybody you could box for your first boxing match debut who are you Bo give an easy fight give me Deon Haney you give [Laughter] me honest answer uh I mean if we're I I would say Floyd if I Pi if I could sit here and pick who I box first boxing fight I pick Floyd because it would be the biggest most crazy most legendary fight maybe not most legendary some people for me okay but outside of that on a skill based level oh I I could hang with some good [ __ ] pro boxers I'm undefeated in boxing you think you think if you and uh ilot boxed that' be ilot is very very [ __ ] skilled boxing that's an interesting question so who what what professional boxer would you equate your PA Mike Tyson I know of Devon Haney now because Ryan Garcia beat him uh dvon Davis he's really short I know him um maybe smacking [ __ ] up though he does he that little guy he can't he can't ride roll coasters though that is true so there's a there's a tradeoff like Cruz fight he was riding a roller coaster no like I'm talking about like at the fair oh no you know like there there's a trade-off in life you know where things get weird it's like it's like yo he's really good but you can't even just hit Dante fan brother can't even ride the top not a Dante fan that's not what I'm wait what did what did I say to say I'm not a you didn't say I mean I don't think he knows that it's a short joke I don't think he picked up on you want me tell him I was joking shut the [ __ ] up I get I say that was a joke I'm what are you trying to say I'm but are you trying to insinuate that I'm short no honestly you're probably what five you're 5'9 you're like 5' seven and a half stop doing stop doing it stop doing that cuz [ __ ] is going to see this and be like he's 5'6 actually if you watching this and you think I'm 5'6 and you want to try me in person please any [ __ ] who see me out I'm punching your [ __ ] out I'm like 5'9 on a good day when when I'm lying to women I'm 5'10 for sure who's gonna ID me I'm wearing forces I'm a [ __ ] liar all right so now for the truth jakee he's like what like he's 5 No but don't do that bro all right all right we won't we'll cut that out like yeah n don't cut it out n don't see me and see these but you know dvon is 5'5 legit that's cool bro I know but is that not short just be honest is that five five short for a grown man for a grown man is that short you can be a fan I'm not I'm a fan of javante and he's five that's a little little bro all right the joke went over his head anyways so the short joke [ __ ] is trying to play me like I'm short no no no we're we're not we're not you're [ __ ] tall all right let's pivot yeah so um SI yeah sh shout out to the shout out to the pivot but but yeah like Jasper's a little riled up things are on edge he's a little he's a little turned up it's been a long day a long two days we've been shooting uh because we have a new [ __ ] company did we say we talk about that yet I we said in the beginning raise your arms up [ __ ] goed [ __ ] goed shout out to w a fun few days it's been a fun few days days you're going to see the content rolling out um but you speaking of but Ruby Rose did a good job oh my God I wanted to bite that M listen anyway if you're near wmart if you're watching this right now I don't give a [ __ ] what you're doing you could be taking care of your kid you could be taking care of your elderly parents [ __ ] them go to Walmart June 1st Nationwide I don't care if you in Pensacola you in Massachusetts all in places that sound [ __ ] stupid there's a Walmart there and you go there it's a better for you product vitamin ifuse number [ __ ] one yeah no basically I I think dialing back like the business story of it because you're also like a very smart businessman intellectual doing everything you do in and outside of the Ring which a lot of people don't have which contributes to you being uh the biggest in my opinion the biggest UFC star um but yeah we we basically I guess this is the podcast where we tell people where W came from but um we started building this company like a year and a half ago and really saw how all these other companies like as we move into better for you products and less harmful products we saw how the leaders in the space didn't have the best formulas didn't have the best manufacturing had all of these harmful substances in it and we're also brands from when I was like 9 years old I don't want to list names but they're still like having all the Shelf space in stores and I was just like this is wild like this is boring this is lame the the the we need something new we need something that's better uh males have vitamin uh deficiencies like crazy especially with magnesium Jasper just can't get enough of it uh especially with magnesium um and biotin is in the body wash uh vitamin E one two of the best vitamins for your skin and hair um but as The Story Goes long story short we we come up with this brand that represents so many things um but I think winning in everyday life whether you're the valedictorian whether you are the high school jock whether you're philanthropist now you have a product that you can embody and wear every single day that's increasing your vitamin intake that is less harmful to you that's where the idea came from and just being the winning formula in category uh went to Walmart pitched them the whole idea they [ __ ] loved it helped us build the brand even and come up with the scent profiles and all the things that are the the most popular um and this has been something I've wanted to do for so long we had to bring in the best people to be a part of it the winners in their category and that's number one Numero Uno sha Ali here um and he instantly saw the vision and already in the past couple of days it's been like super fun filming all the content behind yeah I was pumped when you [ __ ] called me appreciate you thinking of me and uh excited to help grow this business [ __ ] it's needed it's needed we're going to take over the whole bathroom you know tooed if you [ __ ] with the dogs and cows and chickens dog in you I know what I got that dog in me and I use it so be dog free baby am I missing anything with that no I think that was great the one the one thing I would touch on and you did in a way but it's it is body wash it is body spray it is deodorant but it also is there's an ethos that stands behind this brand which is the ethos that you stand for and it's the ethos that you stand for and the ethos that you stand for and the one that I stand for if I say ethos again I'm GNA start stumbling over my words but it's it's it's like you said it it doesn't the winners in life aren't just you you're on a big stage in life you're you're you're crushing it in every aspect financially you're a star you're leading your sport that's awesome on every [ __ ] level it's it's an encouragement to to young men all around the world to [ __ ] get up off their ass and get sh it don't matter if you score high on a test you whatever the [ __ ] it is that you do well maybe not so it matters what the [ __ ] you do but it also doesn't matter what the [ __ ] you do anybody is a winner as long as you put in the work and you have the will to win and I love it I I would say that's wrong I would say that not anybody is a winner and I think that's something that the brand also stands for like you really got to win you got to as you have the will to win no I'm just saying I think that's an important point cuz we live in a world today where a lot of people think everybody can be a winner that's not true if you Los you might be a loser and if you're a loser the good news is there's a hidden l in the logo actually we'll trace it for you with our graphic design team there's a hidden l in the logo because and I I I wanted to make sure that was was a thing because the biggest loss of my life turned out to be the biggest W in my life and I always had the saying like two L's make a w and when I lost to Tommy Fury it was embarrassing all these things but I realized I wasn't focused I wasn't as locked in as I could be the team around me from a boxing standpoint wasn't good I was having personal issues with relationships and all of these things that I had to shed and grow from and I grew into this new and completely different person but I wouldn't have done that if I didn't lose on the biggest stage possible and I think that was part of the ethos ethos ethos ethos of the brand was to encourage people that in their lowest moments to turn those into into their biggest W's eventually when Jake just said that the biggest loss of his life ended up being the biggest W of his life you said same yeah yeah same what what was that story for supposedly lost for lost to Cheeto back in 2020 August it it was I mean it sucked at the time but I it didn't suck too bad because I was like okay I didn't lose because I you know and it was different I wasn't I mean I was focused everything went good training camp everything was good but I was like that sucks I'm goingon to get that back someday when the time is right and then my last fight two two months ago in Miami headline I'm the champ defending my belt against that same guy how rewarding was that three and a half years later August three and a half years later boom beat his ass as a fan of yours it made it so sweet because of all the doubters that constantly like put you down and didn't believe in you and said he was going to destroy you and then you he literally like you embarrass him that was a performance of a life you embarrassed the [ __ ] out of him and I think that's literally a prime example of turning l l into into a w and I really that's what that's where the hidden l in the brand in the logo is um and representing that every single day when you see these products in your bathroom and when we say we have a saying it's not just a product it's a lifestyle absolutely trademarked Incorporated All Rights Reserved 2024 brother uh but but yeah man it's it's an honor to have you a part of this and uh we we really made what we think are the best products on the market from the body wash being exfoliating vitamin infused to the body spray what we found out is a lot of these fragrances like you get like these high-end designer brands that have like $500 colognes turns out it only cost them a dollar to make that and they're literally making like $499 on top of that so we had a fine fragrance house is what these places are called and we got the super expensive scents and gave it to people to what they're worth like we're not trying to these products are super super affordable and I think it's so funny because that's the world we live in where like you just label something and get like a European girl to go this is one of the lower priced men's care products on the market yeah if I'm not mistaken and it's it's the $500 fragrance in the affordable bottle because we want everyone we've been using a body wash in the past two days since we got the samples after the shoot and I personally want to say I got the in there you could bleep it out whatever you want to do W's winning n b genuinely that's that's the saying is the it's winning formula cuz it really is like it really is if if we're going to call our company [ __ ] W it has to be the best we the winners winning product indeed indeed winning customers all that type of [ __ ] indeed better Derek today he's just got a punch I'm not Li I talked to him before he left he wants to punch you up bro he's got a punchable face I like him though it's weird it's like God I like that guy but I want [ __ ] KO pick him up and like it's okay boom one more to the liing me earlier and I'm just letting you know don't shoot the messenger on God he said he wants to get in the ring with you I can call him really he oh yeah he he you want to call him yeah where is he at is wait uh no call no call he's coming up oh um he's talking smack he said he actually wants a spar I swear to God he said he wants to get percentage should I go you guys I literally out let that's crazy timeing saying talk [ __ ] to my face if you're going to talk [ __ ] that's crazy timing what were you saying they were telling me you want to get in the ring and Spar bit or they didn't say Spar they said fight yeah I'm down to do either but uh yeah no I'm just sick of the [ __ ] [ __ ] you've been saying on your podcast uh you called me you made fun of my weight and you called me gay I did not no I well okay okay you said that he wouldn't ever say that what you got to say what your chest that's what I just [ __ ] said bro I he was like oh if I if stand on it you talking to him you talking to him you ain't talking to me my assistant Sono would would piece you he's never boxed a day he never I'm here to fight your video I'm here to fight you what did I what was the first thing I said to you when when I saw you what was the first thing I said to you that we could fight no I said you look thick wait but when we were talking earlier weren't you saying he's a [ __ ] and you wanted to get a ring with him and all type [ __ ] what I'm saying right now say it then I just said the [ __ ] ring so we can after this we have a ring 2 feet away and he's a [ __ ] and whatever else you was saying to me yeah he's [ __ ] what about my hair say something about my hair I I already said that at the W shoot that you look like you haven't showered in [ __ ] a week okay all right d hey buddy hey hey what's your long-term play not no but see you guys you guys are making me seem crazy you're out of your mind he Derek Dereck go warm up hit the hit the heavy back H the warm up is almost listen legendary as send location dble PIV go warm up hey hey double pivot sit sit I'm not [ __ ] no I I'll sit and talk but I'm not [ __ ] no sit on the floor walk you want to take my seat hey how much how much of what's going on ch ch how much of what's going on is is a character versus like actual delusion how much is a character yeah decent uh I would say there are times where I know what I have to do for my boxing career to like like we all why is he laughing cuz you said career I beat your [ __ ] boy your [ __ ] [ __ ] bro you know what I I recall you did beat I recall calling steiny saying what the [ __ ] was that buddy I love steiny but I do remember watching that and thinking I wasn't proud of that I was not proud of that from steiny and I wish I wish he would come to the gym I wish he'd get in there I wish he'd train a little bit and I wish he would have a rematch but that's on him I've been trying to get the rematch but he's been ding me do you think Derek won he said I won I thought I thought he won I'd have to rewatch but I do think I come on baby the comments have [ __ ] dragged me for months after that [ __ ] 99% of the comments say I lost so please say it one more time Sean no I said it what I said it's like therapy or something no but to answer your question uh we all know uh uh as Fighters there's a side of promotion stop [ __ ] first of all Gus shut the [ __ ] up our our audio guys uh like can't stop laughing is that the facial his facial hair or is what he's saying bro that's bold of you to talk facial hair bro that's bold of you to I'm not Li you look dirty you look like Jeffrey done training right Jesus I train every day but anyway we know like there's two sides of of promotion as well as the actual athletic competition that is Combat Sports so there are times where I might play up a little bit like hey promoting but let him go let him go all right if you if all if you think I'm all promoting that I'll see you in the [ __ ] ring and I'll knock both you either of you out well um well Jake's a [ __ ] fat [ __ ] right now he weighs like 240 so I got I goty I gotta pick my words wisely like he's Jake's 240 I I know I know but like I'm not going to sit here and pick a fight against somebody that's 240 when I'm se's my weight class when I stopped you in one round like just like but when I was getting started out of come this is where I'm at since then I told him he could have somebody tag team I'm down I'm down to fight anybody in this [ __ ] room not one person in this room I'm the best part about this is like uh right after this we I think you're you're down to do like one round or three minutes right I mean I'd prefer 12 but we okay yeah 12 I mean that my biggest advantage in the ring ring is my cardio I do 12 12 okay so no I have a genuine question so five round I'm not I'm not one have I ever said I'm a UFC fighter no I'm just say we can box I'm just saying that's I'm used to five you want to do three we could do that aren't you trying to be a boxer with your [ __ ] Ryan Garcia call he would knock knock your [ __ ] ass out so quickly it wouldn't be close I'm one and0 pro boxing what are you actually I saw that video I saw video I'm also want to know thank you officially hey they count that's real commiss but uh I didn't mean I didn't mean to take I didn't mean to take over the pot I just wanted to a couple you definitely didn't yeah okay I try I'm trying to help you no we love you go warm up yeah yeah go warm up the bags don't warm up too much though don't get tired how much do you wa right now without Timberlands and jean shorts on high 120 low 13 no without lying though okay that [ __ ] is you think you got you got him one round I think I could beat him I think I can beat him I I think I could handicap myself to three just put on one glove I could do that what do you think actually happens now when you go downstairs and he gets in that ring like what's his plan that's what I don't get about him but that's why it's that's do me a favor that's why he's Cloud it up because love [ __ ] up [ __ ] he's going he's going to try to Yap he's going to try to talk please just go 100% yeah no actually actually please go 100% if he signs a consent form we'll have him no we've already got like multiple consent forms for better media with like death wavers [ __ ] no no no but he needs it he needs that I'll go like 40 no go like 75 Sean I'm I'm going to be honest bro don't even go 20% he's the nice [ __ ] bro don't do that bro you want him to go 100% no no to be honest but just like work with him and then just like maybe just just like a really good punching and then he'll give up 75% uh I'm nervous man I'm shaking for Derek yeah yeah that's good I understand that there a couple flinches if you Flinch hard enough the the wind coming off you will put him down let him walk you down and bait him boom sleeping what's your next upcoming fight a maraba jaaba and when is that uh not nothing yet I'm hoping for September maybe October maybe November maybe December I'm F ready to go baby what if it was next month I wouldn't be ready to go I like I like 10 to 12 weeks 10 to 12 he likes eight I mean I I normally do like 10 yeah just like but I've been super the first few weeks are [ __ ] pre-amps this Camp I'm channeling my Ryan Garcia would you ever do a Ryan Garcia regiment during Camp drink and smoke every night you do a little I I probably yeah I'm not actually doing that for the people out there he's locked in clocked in locked in locked in ready to go yeah May 20th we start but by the time the people see this it'll be uh June or something like that that is crazy you're fighting Mike that you fought Ben asran wrestler good good [ __ ] UFC was really good UF bit Tyron Woodley twice Anderson Silva knockout of the year with Nate Robinson can't forget about deji deji the the the goat do we say Gibb or is that like that's just crazy resume like literally [ __ ] C by way thank you Gib cuz we had a really good party after he knocked you the [ __ ] out who W we're skipping two professional boxers this always no no the recent ones this always happens I'm trying to just think cuz two cuz this is what everybody asked for this is what everybody asked for who who are the two professional boxers you fighted you got to name them Andre August and Ryan Borland go okay people don't people are like fight a pro boxer and then I do and then they're like that was boring as a man of combat he what were 10 and one nine and one nine and one what is your take on his [ __ ] all of his fights and who he's fighting in the competition dude I've been excited as [ __ ] since I started I remember you I remember the first time I watched was the Nate Robinson I watched that one at home and then uh I don't remember what it was after that but I remember watching Ben Asam in Atlanta I think that was the first time we actually met was right after the fight I think we hugged I was like y I picked you up you carried me back to the locker room that it was love at first sight that was crazy actually yeah actually I [ __ ] with him we became best friends like a couple days later you going to leave me hanging no no I would it's my eyebrow but uh yeah no I think he's obviously super skilled I think it's and I I it's inspired me even in the position I'm at UFC World Champ sexy you know what I mean like tall dark handsome TR inspired me just business the business uh side of things that you've done I've always thought putting on massive fight that's why I'm such a huge Conor fan cuz the pay-per-views he's done is so [ __ ] he's been fighting for four years and [ __ ] that he's been doing the massive fights the fights I get excited for there's a few UFC fights the high the big big fights that I get excited for but every time you fought even when uh Logan fought Floyd I was [ __ ] like excited like all fight week so i' I've been inspired from what you've done from a business side from the boxing side they even just start so not late but for a boxer but these boxers start when they're [ __ ] three four years old like Ryan and tank like they're young buck the Tik Tac I sent you of Devon Haney's debut fight yeah it's wild he was fighting a five foot Mexican in a in a bar was it Dante bro if I show you this [ __ ] oh no I did see that I did see that I did see that when you started even seeing that first video fighting Anderson Silva six fights in bro like do you know how insane that is he's one of the greatest correct me if I'm wrong UFC Strikers in history yeah 100% so does that make me one of the greatest UFC Strikers and one of the greatest wrestlers cuz wood but Ben ask was but Nate Diaz is ducking me in MMA oh am crazy I am weak that's a sick fight MMA I I wish it was that would happened right after the boxing same he's actually ducking it which is why it's crazy because he's not he's not in UFC no but we we upped it to 15 million damn that's crazy though that would be a I like Nate Diaz but that would be such a fun buildup he actually doesn't want to do it all Sean how do you genuinely Jake's not here it's me and you in a room actually how do you see that fight going for Jake what MMA him you're not here J for Nate in MMA keep it a bean God it's it's so hard to you're a big [ __ ] right now on what weight would it be5 185 I don't hate I don't I it's not a it's a winable fight for you I really do think that but Nate is so [ __ ] you would have to do what I did against aljo and morab do not let that [ __ ] grab you not that you can't wrestle cuz I know you can wrestle but once he starts grabbing you and doing Jiu-Jitsu if he gets on top his little he likes his little trips it would be hard for you to win I feel like if he if he started grappling just pure Jiu-Jitsu if it let's be real if it goes to the floor is he [ __ ] if he's on his back Nate's not like a super strong guy so if you learn how to like I mean I'm sure you know how to get up to a single legegg stuff like that but then you start getting your neck grabbed I don't know how much Jiu-Jitsu you know I mean Nate's a [ __ ] high Lev black belt um if you could keep it standing 100% there's winnable ways there if he if he went to the ground feel like he might be able to grab your neck no that that's exactly how I feel about it if I don't get guillotined yeah then I win the fight because even if he was on top take your back but even if he was on top of me I would just throw him off of me cuz he's also the weakest puncher I've ever fought like when he was hitting me I was I almost like started laughing I'm I'm not even saying this to talk [ __ ] out of everyone I've sparred in my whole entire life and everyone I fought his punches are even me we I don't think you ever landed a punch on me is that true well that's not true so I don't anyone no I'm literally not even talking [ __ ] which is why I think it's funny that he dropped Connor and [ __ ] cuz it's just like how Conor with like to the ground yeah like with a straight left hand yeah which is crazy like I I'm not just talking [ __ ] when I say that and I've told you I've literally told you this you told me this after the fight yeah I was like he is the weakest puncher I've ever fought in my life who's who's the weakest puncher you've ever you've ever come to face um there I mean there's been so many fights where I later didn't even get hit um uh does that like make you jaded at all when you get into a fight and you don't really get love that [ __ ] I prefer not to get hit at all but like if I was you and I wasn't get hit at all I'd probably work less no no no no I I know I don't get hit because I work that hard so if I didn't work hard I know I'd probably get hit I'm just a lazy [ __ ] so so here you are on top of the world we're launching [ __ ] W going to be a billion dollar business [ __ ] you I always forget uh UFC champ accomplishing all your goals what do you want next uh what are what is the threeyear fiveyear for Sean I I truly do want to get a boxing fight I'm not I'm not super set on that to where like I'm like going to be [ __ ] if it doesn't happen I do think it'll be interesting especially if I go out there knock morab out Ryan does his thing I think there's a [ __ ] sweet fight there if it doesn't happen not that worried about it want to go out there beat morab I'd like to you know if Max Max and Elia fight I would like to fight go move up to 45 fight the winner of that um you know maybe have three to five maybe have a few more kids definitely want another little baby I love kids my fite pump him out shout out to Danny who's your top pick in a boxing fight though if you if you could choose your Ryan now was like the I mean what he after dvon Beat Ryan I was like javante then Ryan goes out there does his thing really though I think Dante do you is that is that not a big [ __ ] leap Ryan like you said before he's been doing this his whole life one thing that's been proven is that the crossover it's it's not a good return Fury he did his thing okay the excep is the exception we've seen it with okay but then Anthony Joshua put his ass t was crazy super night night he was I'm I'm here for big fights like I wanted to get into the UFC and I wanted to make big fights watching Conor versus Floyd I'm like that [ __ ] happened really happened hey you versus Derek that could be as big as Connor in Floyd but no but I I think the craziest [ __ ] about Conor versus Floyd is that overall it was a W for everyone involved so there's certain fights where it just like doesn't matter what happens that's the world we live in yeah I mean UFC told me they said if the if the fight's big enough and it'll make the UFC money they'll do it what means more to you your your your record being pre or the amount of money you're making all right let me ask you something it's about to get real J's drunk Jasper's drunk as [ __ ] y record or money [ __ ] it depends the Gap like like the gap of money if it's like an extra 10 15 20 million but I lose a couple important fights probably not you just take like 150 million I'll be like like [ __ ] my record baby yeah it depends on the gap of money Jake Paul is not here right now just like a Mayweather Conor McGregor you taking that fight ver Jake yeah no he's my buddy I could I mean I don't I don't even no I no funny no there's you know what's funny is always in my Snapchat story once once a day pretty much someone says we knock out Jake Paul like there's every sing all the time for so long people just want to see me get [ __ ] is good though that's like the thing yeah but I'm sensitive it is funny though people [ __ ] love to hate confidence the craziest thing though actually about both of you like I met you very recently like I didn't realize you're as like normal as you are I don't know why I thought you violent like you guys are both like very goofy mellow and stupid and c and and awesome it's like the greatest thing ever like I couldn't believe when I met you you're like one of us like yeah I wouldn't think you're a [ __ ] yeah one of the coolest people in the world for sure yeah but not a lot of people uh can like I don't know we have like a weird it's hard toes Meat Heads I'm like this the this my dog I think it's a little bit of dark humor too it's like some [ __ ] up [ __ ] that we say off camera [ __ ] sometimes but I think it's like there's a certain yeah like that's how my whole group is back home it's like we all just we're all just kind of [ __ ] dumb I'm smart but like they're dumb well someone commented like yo Jake Paul's the dumbest genius in the world and I was just like I say that [ __ ] all the time you wed up the other day and I was like this is the most genius dumbass in the world no jokes Hey Brother chill buddy trying to get me cancelled no what how old are you 23 are you really yeah no you're not he's not is he what do you think think what did you think Oh no you're 267 27 what did you think he was I thought he was older I thought he was like 27 26 yeah a niggaer mature was that ladies you got a boo you got a girl you just be slanging she timeout right now I don't really talk about she don't time out it's a little tricky she not taking care of herself what do you guys think about Tom Brady R you watch it yeah they kept comp panning to you every 5 Seconds bro I swear there's a huge camer sitting there the whole time but it's cool to see Netflix going hard like that cuz they went hard they swing that meat around huha yeah let's pivot yeah just sorry about him I'm drunk man not yeah but but it was it was great it wasar they should have got rid of most of the football players going up there yeah there's a couple ones Ben afflac is that who that was on there that was wild that was so weird that was so weird it was cool to see how [ __ ] less sensitive people are becoming I feel like feel like it's recently like there's a big push back I think people got sick of it we went super super super PC for a long time people were like wait a second we like being able to say what we want to say I saw kill Tony say oh type of crazy [ __ ] on there that watch every [ __ ] Monday you were on kill Tony yeah how old are you actually buddy I'm a comedian Budd full time no yeah I was on that I was nervous as hell though I was like just being it's a live I do podcast once a week like me and Tim do our podcast every [ __ ] week but to be there in front of an audience live it's weird it's a different kind of well so you say Tim but let's let's talk about actually the fact that you get trained by by one of the greatest boxers of all time it's really that's something what's happened like that's crazy working with Canelo as your as your coach that's what I'm saying people don't going to be Ryan but like yeah that is true I never even thought about that for did you even know that this guy proba even know that that orange [ __ ] is nice wait will I get cancelled by the ginger community no you're black oh no my dad my dad's Ginger and I'm I'm like this [ __ ] is ginger bro he be shaving he be shaving his beard and I zoom in zoom in it's it's slightly orange so I'm a quarter ginger on South Park they made fun of Gingers and that [ __ ] made the news I [ __ ] with the ginger people but like y'all [ __ ] you like redhead girls oh yeah was Super Soaker but anyway yeah like y'all [ __ ] is orange and that's okay but back to you one of y'all that's not drunk I got a question cuz this guy clipped out a lot did Tim actually like you guys about him like saying to fight that was yeah that was real Tim always be talking [ __ ] to the like he's been doing that for so long so what happened he just talk I mean he just he Alo the knee's coming Alo you got to shoot Alo watch out for this like he's been saying that since I've been in the UFC like my debut vers terion where he was talking [ __ ] to terion too and uh he just does it every fight but this happened to just be crazy timing to like Tim you got Tim like alre you got to go and like literally he he like that's when he threw that left hand or whatever stepped into Southpaw and uh or stepped into Orthodox and got dropped it was it was funny the timing because he's like Al you got to go I don't I truly don't think that's why that's not why Alo went I bet you could I bet Alo didn't even hear that but Tim's always chirping and stuff but people on the internet are [ __ ] mad about that a lot of them actually like it I'll say majority of people are thinking that's the funniest [ __ ] ever there's a couple [ __ ] that are like you should be banned think it's a fight would you run the alra fight back or one and done never I like that why would I yeah am I supposed to top that you know what I'm saying I got love for Alo we had him on the show and he he seems like a good dude I actually don't mind Alo I does that ever happen where like you'll have a personal relationship with someone personal runin with them and it's all great but then now all of a sudden you have to fight each other I've never had I've not of running with someone that's been like uh more than like I've ran into aljo morab at the UFC I'm like hey what's up talk to him a little bit you know nothing no ill will um but I haven't had like a run with someone I actually lik them mhm and then at the fight them so you're not friends with any any other UFC fighters oh I have a there's there's a couple guys in my in my weight class that I train with at the lab that are like climbing the r uh ladders what happened with uh the 125 pounder I I don't even know his name and I'm not I'm just not like yeah what's his name I Alexander pania bro this story is actually kind of funny so 2016 I think it was it was like 3 and0 4 and0 and I was still fighting at like I fought at 125 not too long before that I fought at like 130 which is in a weight class was like so I wasn't like a 155 like I am now I was probably like 14 back then and uh Henry cejudo comes in I'm three or four and0 at the point at this point it comes in with this kid Alexander PTO just won The Ultimate Fighter I think he's got his UFC debut or it's his second UFC fight he's a couple weeks out from his fight I'm [ __ ] the night before me and Tim ripping bongs like hanging out being goofballs and [ __ ] so the next morning so we brought him in for sparring hry sudo brings in Alexander you're 4-0 he's King [ __ ] he he's just won The Ultimate Fighter and so they write the names on on the board who who you're sparring I'm like oh [ __ ] I got Alexander Pantoja versus me for one round one round he has three rounds so you write one one name then usually you you spar with one guy then they go out you spar with a fresh guy they go out spar with the fresh guy that's usually how it works so my name was just up there for one round that's it we Spar one round I didn't know anything about him cuz I I didn't really watch it like that 25 I don't really watch 25ers like that but somebody's like oh [ __ ] that's he a black belt he just won The Ultimate Fighter I was like oh [ __ ] I got to [ __ ] Focus up here first round boom Dro him with a liver kick and I wasn't going to post I record all my rounds I have so many sparring rounds like I wasn't going to post it was and for some reason I don't know why he would talk [ __ ] and bring it up cuz I literally I don't know you know know I don't know if you know how it works but you finish a guy the fight's over right no no did he um so I finished him the first round he hit him boom with the liver I posted the video yesterday and I've had it for a long time I didn't want to post it CU you don't post sparring like that but he just kept bringing it up so boom finished him first round um then uh after the first round round I go to walk out and Henry's over there crying box of Kleenex just like [ __ ] wiping his tears crying we want you for a second round so mad that this little like I was nobody just finished his dude he's in the UFC he's supposed to be the man finish him in the first round so Henry's crying saying he wants another round um so I piece him up again in the second round and I'm I'm dying at this point my lungs are burning I'm not in shape for fight I I'm nowhere near in Camp for a fight and I my lungs are hurting and uh Henry again crying blowing his nose and like I want you for a third and Benson comes in Benson Henderson absolute Legend comes in and was yelling cuz that's his it was the his gym the MMA lab we don't let people come in our gym and make us tired and blah blah blah and I'm [ __ ] just just huffing and puffing I just got done work in this dude for 10 minutes finished him in the first round did I say that liver kick um we'll put the footage I have the foot yeah it's right there insert the footage so third round come out boom piece him up again and he's so I don't know why he keeps bringing up this bringing this up in the media I think it's because people ask him but I don't know why he doesn't just say yeah yeah no no I don't want to talk about it he keeps saying like he's like oh I got in I found his range and [ __ ] I'm like bro you you stopped him in one round stopped him in round one and let him live and continue to fight for round two these delusional uh like wild people are weirdos but the reason I posted cuz he kept bringing it up exactly wait so is he the champ now at 125 yeah okay but why does he still want to talk [ __ ] to you if you got [ __ ] up that's what I'm saying I don't know either either you drop to 125 and get that no I can't drop to 125 that's too much now you're a thick [ __ ] I am a thick but yeah I SP I think it's important for up and cominging Spar uh fighters to record their rounds and watch their rounds not for that this reason you know but just to I've improve so much watching my sparring y I have thousands of rounds maybe not thousands hundreds of rounds from 10 years ago on my on my computer of uh it's like NFL team is watching footage the time [ __ ] 100% got to watch that [ __ ] that's I I have every single round recorded and and again I I don't post sparring either exactly you know put in a highlight video make a vlog boom we're sparring people but it's never like [ __ ] up your guy yeah exactly but Mike Perry honestly like what he's been doing is pretty Fu he went to Bare knuckle that [ __ ] just meant for him bare knuckle fighting it's crazy different going crazy he's doing good he's [ __ ] undefeated over there he's beating some really good guys stay over here [ __ ] [ __ ] only place that you should be getting tickets from is game time.co it's it's the only place I go it is the only place you can possibly go they have 110% price match guarantee that's what we use to get our tickets for the NBA Finals you can get $20 off your first order go to gametime.co JJ a $20 off your first order they're doing a deal specifically for y'all and you could see where your tickets are before you buy them seeing the seats they have all of the these great policies last 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platform there is Mike Paul versus Jake Tyson here's my official prediction tell us and even if even if it's against me like it's not it's not I do think you're going to beat Mike Tyson uh it's crazy that I even saying that out loud right now cuz you're fighting Mike Tyson it's [ __ ] crazy even just when we were walking down the the street today people all genders all ages knew you were fighting Mike Tyson it's such a massive fights live on Netflix which is [ __ ] crazy it's in a stadium which is [ __ ] crazy it is crazy I believe in you I see what you I see what you're doing I see you know that you believe in yourself Mike Tyson is uh hasn't fought in however long it's been so for him to just come up and get a fight be I I'm sure is going to be in as good a shape as he possibly could be in but it's just you know it's it's it's it's not his time right now I love Mike Tyson I never actually met him but I love Mike Tyson I do think Jake's gonna get the job done and I do think eight rounds eight two-minute rounds eight two-minute rounds I believe I believe you could put them away in the later rounds you know five six seven eight I do think you could put it put him down which is crazy to even [ __ ] think you rap yeah that's fire I'm just lazy and inconsistent that's not a w no that sh it is not you start using Brandon yell at him every day but cuz you can actually spit that's fire no but but people know him now from like podcasting they don't know he's a rapper and hurts his soul J sick name Lil jizz what J JZ that's good that's good you should switch your [ __ ] I switch my [ __ ] from come Master to kill Jas bro honestly though that's I think singing rapping spitting is one of the things that if I could switch talents be doing something like that that's good or twerking I ain't going to lie you shook that [ __ ] earlier I got a I got a thing on me you that [ __ ] wiggle a little bit let's let's pivot though cuz yep hit a pivot uh yeah do we have a speaker should we play Jasper's new song or something you got a new one I thought you were lazy some new [ __ ] go ahead play on your phone just put it in the speaker put it in the mic too this the [ __ ] I'm dropping when I'm Indie that sound decent I'm not rapping either I'm yapping that's not going to get you drunk yo I made this beat that's crazy I like the way you look I won't lie you got something I need you my with a fly girl like you doing with no guy a little sh don't really go outside I'm not crazy right place and right time you all smiles and pretty light brown [Music] [Music] like that better if I forget you but I just can't time saying do better and I'm sure you can find that guy that's worth all right cut it cut it cut it that's that's enough that's enough that's enough that's enough for real can't give the whole thing it's not out yet yeah hey good [ __ ] that's fire I'll be rapping though but that's some pop [ __ ] just cuz I can do it so why are you consistent cuz I'm lazy and jaded and and spoiled yeah it's unfortunate maam shout out to the homies for a lot of talented people out there that just are yeah don't smoke crack yo also there there is a parallel there don't do don't do that there's a parallel with the same thing he's talking about I think Fighters probably where it's like you could have all the talent in the world he's got that's why I get so [ __ ] mad at him it's cuz he has all the talent in the world really I get more pissed off than he gets and he could be a superstar but he just is lazy he doesn't put the work in he's not he's not strategic and it is hard when you got when you live in a crib in Puerto Rico right you got chefs and [ __ ] and you fly private with me yeah that's it that's it bro that's it you got to you got get paychecks and [ __ ] y'all got to evict me that's not a bad idea honestly I think we talked about it let's make I was I'm H we had a conversation but I just can't I can't because I love you so much I need you but then I'll probably be more like need you y yeah I guarante and then we you would still have to like fly in once a week to to do the pods and it would be resentment and then I I'll go out like and I'll try to start shooting at y'all oh my God I guarantee I would be in the position I'm in if I if I had money and like had already made it like financially had [ __ ] I wouldn't have made it that's why people think I'm crazy but CC the other side of it is like boom right so I'm from com California same hey shout out my [ __ ] yeah man I was homeless for the first half of my life mom's a drug addict dad's a gang member I've never had anything in my life right and my whole life has been music I dropped out in ninth grade I was like I'm going to make music my dad kicks me out he's like you can't live under this roof like be more like your brothers my brothers are [ __ ] star students one got a full ride scholarship loser all all type of [ __ ] nerd ass [ __ ] all those [ __ ] are fat and unemploy now one dropped out of school a full rise scholarship and is just sitting at home right so boom from having nothing to like me saying I'm going to risk everything that I have in my life to become a music artist and it works I get to a certain place and I'm like damn I did exactly I hit a ceiling right so it's like now I had to recalibrate he got a big record deal and then and then like use I crashed out and became a m addict for four four days a week for 30 like 90 days oh it's not bad but then I moved cuz my homeboy was like you need to move and I was like nah [ __ ] that I made a million I ain't going to move I'm going to maintain this lifestyle I'm a junkie but I'm rich yep I crashed out and was like yeah I need to move lost 60 lbs went to Puerto Rico locked in recalibrated and now I'm ready to be but that's that's here's the problem we run into now is that you've recalibrated and now it's still it's been 6 months the album's supposed to be 6 months ago and we're still waiting for the album that's the problem and that's what you got to work on never too late though let's start it let's get because you're vitamin deficient right yeah yeah cuz like a lot of people can't think straight when they're vitamin deficient and all that a week ago kind of elaborated on that so yeah this isn't therapy um I got shout out Suzie right right huh Susie but she's hot is she not you think my therapist you guys got the same one I could pee and vape on this podcast I got to go pee go pee I could pee yeah I mean I think we I think we end the episode because uh let's wrap it up you can get W available at Walmart anyway if you walk into Walmart whether you with your mom your daddy you by yourself you go in that [ __ ] men body care aisle you buy that and comment down below what you thought of the episode for um us being brain fried over and uh jper but Buzz also comment cuz this coming out when the product releases comment your favorite scent and sent $10,000 right no I'm send you 1,000 I ain't got 10,000 for you but I'll send you 1,000 I'll send someone 10,000 he'll send you 10,000 I'll send you a th000 and I'm going through the comments for sure anyway good luck Charlie and if you got a test soon good luck on that [ __ ] that's what we [Music] do what are those 8 O gloves I want you to know they were talking up there he ain't going easy so be ready all right legit be ready buddy I'm using these bags don't show Too Much don't show we're boxing we're boxing I don't I do that on accident sometimes just know that that might come up just keep your hands up I'm just saying I might throw that up I haven't knocked someone out in a while just cuz my last fight didn't go off it went off five rounds I've been like craving just putting someone's lights out lately it's weird versus your boy better Derek I I hope Sean isn't nice and just [ __ ] him up that's your that's your trainee [ __ ] D all righty folks welcome to your main event of the evening starting out first in the loser corner you have better day with a record of no wins no losses I beat ste's [ __ ] out no anything he is 5'7 120 lbs lost in the mile to better JoJo but he's still delusional in his fighting career and to my left in the winning Corner sponsored by W sugar sha Ali The Undefeated UFC champion of the world it's time to fight bring it to the center we already spoke about the rules in the locker room beforehand give me your glove give me your hand touch gloves I want a clean fair fight no no hits below the waist back to your Corners time you ready judge you ready and fight [Music] [Applause] I'm out of balance or something oh do Dodge that [ __ ] hold on hold on hold on hold [ __ ] come on come on just oh my God one back of the head no no no back of the head four ref didn't see it five six me in the eyes Walk This Way Walk This Way for me he's running Walk This Way for me my car run all right and we're in in that right that's called all right time time time one two that was a that was a slip four up six bro Rizo what the [ __ ] are you doing all right get up SLP all right come on time in come on got come on got you [ __ ] black I'm going to I need to work I need to see some work black UT D somebody said 10 seconds like 8 seconds ago all right great back to your corner back to your corner back to your corner stay in there you're doing good right now this feel good I feel good do you see that one I landed clean on his face I think we all terrible shut the [ __ ] up for once in your [ __ ] life shut the [ __ ] up Sean's doing half punches on him shut up I'll act like uh no don't act like bro I'm just I'm putting in work all right how this how you when you [ __ ] beat the old wash UFC fighters everybody comments you're fighting old was UFC fighters what do you think 10s I think they're right in in round two round two round two oh got him [ __ ] oh [Music] [ __ ] hey put that hey that that's a that's going to be a 10 count can't get me by the that's going to be a 10 count that's going to be a 10 count next time back in the just there going to be a 10 count next time get in there give me real quick get him with some you thank you perfect okay BL I'm going to need to see some more one two back to your corner white Corner neutral Corner 5 6 seven eight n look at me thank you bro come on you want to fight do you want to fight when I do you want to fight yes yeah wait wait time back in wake up time time time time time I promise okay it's to the floor the rules of transfer to MMA tap tap tap he's St he's T he's ta all right I block out all right you're good to go wait wait the fight was over get the [ __ ] out of the ring oh it's over it's over it's over it's over go you got it's over it's over it's over [Music]	in Floyd but no but I I think the craziest [ __ ] about Conor versus Floyd is that overall it was a W for everyone involved so there's certain fights where it just like doesn't matter what happens that's the world we live in yeah I mean UFC told me they said if the if the fight's big enough and it'll make the UFC money they'll do it what means more to you your your your record being pre or the amount of money you're making all right let me ask you something it's about to get real J's drunk Jasper's drunk as [ __ ] y record or money [ __ ] it depends the Gap like like the gap of money if it's like an extra 10 15 20 million but I lose a couple important fights probably not you just take like 150 million I'll be like like [ __ ] my record baby yeah it depends on the gap of money Jake Paul is not here right now just like a Mayweather Conor McGregor you taking that fight ver Jake yeah no he's my buddy I could I mean I don't I don't even no I no funny no there's you know what's funny is always in my Snapchat story once once a day pretty much someone says we knock out Jake Paul like there's every sing all the time for so long people just want to see me get [ __ ] is good	7	5	3	in Floyd but no but I I think the craziest thing about Conor versus Floyd is that overall it was a W for everyone involved so there's certain fights where it just like doesn't matter what happens that's the world we live in	let me ask you something it's about to get real J's drunk Jasper's drunk as hell, record or money	4,1,6	3,-1,5	4	1	6	3	-1	5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXPZ1KzdpsY	4,103	mXPZ1KzdpsY	2024-06-20 00:00:00	well well well ladies and gentlemen do we have a special episode for you today none other than sugar Shan om Ali the current UFC bantamweight champion a legend in his own right this episode was off the cusp we were a little turned up Jasper was really really drunk so we weren't really prepared for this at all the conversations definitely got wild and obviously as you guys have seen over maybe the past week or so we launched a new company called w am men's carine in Walmart this company is so near and dear to my heart and I partnered with Shawn to bring this Vision to life amongst other celebrities artists and athletes that we are announcing over the next couple of weeks here get your w at Walmart it is very very very very very good stuff and yes you heard the news I am fighting Mike Perry on July 20th it is going down I'm still fighting Mike Tyson November 15th that is happening but I'm staying active knocking out Mike Perry on July 20th and I'm excited for y'all to listen to this episode and he the vision of w how it all came together and how Shawn got involved and then everything to do with Shawn's career this podcast has been a long time coming but prepare yourself for some idiocracy per usual uh this is [ __ ] with Jake Paul we have a secret handshake check it out AC let me get that stop playing mean yeah we created that because we actually have so many things to get into here this has been a long time coming Jasper did bring up something and the reason W was created was because the other products in the category had harmful dyes parabens sulfates hormone disruptors and so we wanted to create the better for you vitamin infused product and and Sean's a co-owner just signed today yesterday for the show but we we'll get into all of that we we've been you know bringing sea on for like we've been talking for like a month and a half yes sir yes sir um it is currently May we've been doing a lot of shoots this podcast will probably come out at post W launch you can get I'm so drunk I'm sorry y'all you can get it in uh Walmart every Walmart you in Paca Walmart get it in you in Pensacola it's in Walmart in Kentucky Walmart Walmart so basically uh we we brought in the greatest people in the world to help build W and Sean is one of those people but dialing everything back we will get into the company the body washes how this all came about but uh we've been wanting to do this podcast and thanks for joining us BR hey guys hey thanks for joining us right did you uh yeah I did you sh for an hour bro did you did you do do we know do we set the stage of the day and the fact that Jasper's slash right now okay cool y drunk is a [ __ ] y like double drunk yep yep yep you drunk yeah all that so um but just winding everything back uh I think we've been friends for a long time in fact you were the first guest on this show oh [ __ ] crazy Zoom crazy that's right that's right that's right the first ever episode you zoomed in and that's crazy we're thankful we're thankful for our friendship and it's pretty cool that now we're here again today uh getting less views than before and that's fire that's it congratulations less views we're not we're not it was it was a joke it was a joke if you watching this please like and comment cuz we falling off right now but man by the time this comes out you're going to be getting ready for me RAB how do you say his name I don't remember morab is iTab or or I don't know me that's got to be it me but you got to say it with the emphasis look meab mirab meab meab there you go there you go so yeah I should be getting ready hopefully I ain't got nothing scheduled hopefully uh you know Uncle Dana will call me say hey buddy you want to fight in in here and there and there and then I'm d b boom and that that's how that works what's up with everybody on your body though everybody talking [ __ ] even people youat I wanted to bring up yeah and he's like saying like he's trying to post about you even yesterday it is weird but when you concuss someone you know what I just say they don't think as well as they used to so I think he's still concussed and he's a little confused because he's talking [ __ ] still he not in his right mind because I can just throw up another post go because it's a throwback Thursday it's a throwback Friday do you think do you think people don't respect you enough cuz I I see that as your friend an unbiased like they just see social media and podcasts and the the hair and stuff like that and then they just sh week but I [ __ ] with you I appr that um I don't think it is well you can't you know I think it's fine I think you're jealous I ain't going to lie I got some inches under here let's smell that hair you can smell my [ __ ] must who I do think I feel a little bit disrespected as the champ but I think that last fight against Che kind of you know shut a little bit of people up canny go five rounds Cheeto beat me before the Alo fight um shut a lot of people up canny grapple didn't have to Grapple cuz he couldn't take me down yeah Alo couldn't take you down I think that was the biggest thing where they were like yo that's his weakness like yeah wrestle him down and then he just proved everyone wrong that's what's so interesting about this morab fight is he's supposedly well he is he's [ __ ] good at wrestling he's really really good at wrestling he's boring as [ __ ] and no one will there won't be one comment saying yeah right he's actually kind of fun not one person I'm com won I'm com you can I ask you something would you put yourself in your own top five Strikers in the UFC oh I'm yeah yo easily who's your Mount Rushmore strikker well I I mean I would unbiasedly I would put him as number one because adna is in like top three but he also like got beat by put that [ __ ] down boy he did uh bro I'm up there I'm up there Max is really good Max super his striking that's a good top five there that's four me Max Elia adaga uh I'm sure I'm missing some your with a one would it be that's that's a minus one Mount rmore is four yeah but I only got four but if you throw the five in it's a plus one isn't there only four yeah but but you ready to throw the five up I'm four all right that's my more but yeah once again uh this is a [ __ ] ass podcast so we apologize hey but something something you just touched on you talked about Fighters being fun and interesting how much and you're you're a superstar how much of you being a superstar how much of any fighter being a superstar comes down to them being fun and interesting as you are and how much of it comes down to their actual fighting good question uh well who's a super who who obviously Connor comes to mind I think he's he's a character he's fun he's interesting who else comes to mind is like a superstar I would say Izzy gives that off I think he's an interesting guy other than that there's not like a ton of fun like Ryan Garcia is doing a really good job right now of being [ __ ] interesting being a character uh I think that's fentel I think it's drugs as well I wouldn't deny that but he's still making people interested in Ryan versus Devon Haney was an interesting fight not because Devon Haney that dude's boring as [ __ ] you think he did them roids no I don't think Ryan did I think Devon needs to take that L he being a [ __ ] about I think the craziest [ __ ] you said to me and like I don't even know if we want to put this in there or bring it up but we we can always remove it but uh because of your your situation with the ostarine and you said to me like and it I like fully felt your energy you're like I swear on my daughter's life I never did that and you got popped for it yeah same thing happened uh to Ryan right now he popped for aost the low super low level a some [ __ ] like a trillionth of a gr the same thing happened to me uh so when that came out with Ryan like I truly truly didn't believe he took anything because it was the same [ __ ] and it happens to a lot of [ __ ] ostarine happens to how does that happen it's called the tainted supplement so if you're taking anything that has protein in it that's not third party tested uh could not just protein any kind of supplement that's not third party tested it's either NSF or there's a bunch of different third party tests but if you're not if you're taking something that doesn't have that there's chances there could be something in it but austram people pop for that all the time my case was not that big of a deal cuz I wasn't as huge of a star as I am now but it still was like a big deal because of my name the reason it's going so crazy right now is because Ryan G is a superstar so people are freaking out but it happens to a lot of athletes I just before we move past it I just on that Superstar topic how is that is that Superstar factor that that someone like you has someone like Ryan has someone like Connor has is it something you're born with or is it is it a practice is it something you can learn and do you sit back and like think like oh how can I go viral today how can I I think it's both I think you have to want to be a superstar there's some guys in the UFC like I want to make more money I want this I want that but they don't really want to be a superstar you you got to want it you got to you got to have some kind of vision a long time before well and and also like who you are as a person you have to have that like Fire Within still though like before you got into want famous I want to be in the NFL I want to be NBA I wanted to be a [ __ ] athlete when I was young was instilled I was just for whatever reason I wanted to make it when I was young I'm from H in Montana like small ass can I ask you something what's your opinion on like the take b nickel takes like where he's like super friendly and humble and like I think he's a sweet ass [ __ ] they love him but like bro that [ __ ] pisses me off I think that [ __ ] is cool too n like you're a hum like [ __ ] talk your [ __ ] you're what 670 like bro talk your [ __ ] like it it kind of bores me no I get yeah I mean that's that's some people's opinion is like he's too nice too humble too that but he's being himself um but he's also super young in the sport I think he and he's still pretty what is he 28 you're in a sport of War if I was playing like [ __ ] Cricket I would be like yeah like but that's that's the thing is for for for a character like him what it seems like is that's what he's in is the sport of war and that's it he's not in the sport of entertainment he's a nice ass sweetheart get there is some people that that understand both sides of things but I also have respect for and I see when someone's that's strictly in the sport of if I play chess with you I'm going to be like good game and I'm going to shake your hand I talk [ __ ] be F ass to a PO it I'm going to be like [ __ ] you you need to get better at whatever you're doing dial dialing it back a little bit um to the aost stream thing I think it's like what do you think about Conor tweeting still at like 3:00 a.m. like coked out he he he he sent shots at me and Ryan talking [ __ ] but it's it's crazy coming from Connor who literally got out of the usada pool to do steroid like legit steroids so it's kind of wild and I was the biggest Connor fan for a long time in the last couple weeks ever since he sent that wasn't even a couple weeks ago probably a week ago I've been trying to hate him I've been trying to be like [ __ ] you Connor but I can't I love Connor I it's like I am excited for his fight coming up I'm excited I want you know I'm all about it what's the fight is it Chandler Chandler in June it's going to be big they just been trying to do it for a long time so I didn't know if it still still I think officially I think it's I think I think the craziest part about it is what like eight weeks before a fight that he's still like coked and drunk out of his mind who you got though who that's a good it is crazy that he still like he tweeted that deleted like 20 minutes later he was definitely [ __ ] up on well that's what I was going to say we can't just Grace past that do you is that that's a that's a bold thing to say do you you know he's on coke is that a is that are you [ __ ] gills I don't know anything but I know for certain that he's brother like look at the time of the tweets and look at what he's saying like also and he's like known for this simar tweets yeah yeah I don't know just manic brother I think he is I do think Ryan is I think he when he said he was playing into it a little bit I I think he's kind of using that I think he's [ __ ] crazy what what what would happen if you and Ryan boxed that's I mean there's only one way to find out he has a lot better chances of beating me in a boxing match than he does in a real fight keep up I do I I [ __ ] I truly believe in myself that's how I got to the [ __ ] position I'm in right now I can box I can throw hands um I don't think it'd be easy by any means I do think it's possible I beat him I'm not saying my my odds are great but I do believe I could beat Ryan Bo if there was anybody you could box for your first boxing match debut who are you Bo give an easy fight give me Deon Haney you give [Laughter] me honest answer uh I mean if we're I I would say Floyd if I Pi if I could sit here and pick who I box first boxing fight I pick Floyd because it would be the biggest most crazy most legendary fight maybe not most legendary some people for me okay but outside of that on a skill based level oh I I could hang with some good [ __ ] pro boxers I'm undefeated in boxing you think you think if you and uh ilot boxed that' be ilot is very very [ __ ] skilled boxing that's an interesting question so who what what professional boxer would you equate your PA Mike Tyson I know of Devon Haney now because Ryan Garcia beat him uh dvon Davis he's really short I know him um maybe smacking [ __ ] up though he does he that little guy he can't he can't ride roll coasters though that is true so there's a there's a tradeoff like Cruz fight he was riding a roller coaster no like I'm talking about like at the fair oh no you know like there there's a trade-off in life you know where things get weird it's like it's like yo he's really good but you can't even just hit Dante fan brother can't even ride the top not a Dante fan that's not what I'm wait what did what did I say to say I'm not a you didn't say I mean I don't think he knows that it's a short joke I don't think he picked up on you want me tell him I was joking shut the [ __ ] up I get I say that was a joke I'm what are you trying to say I'm but are you trying to insinuate that I'm short no honestly you're probably what five you're 5'9 you're like 5' seven and a half stop doing stop doing it stop doing that cuz [ __ ] is going to see this and be like he's 5'6 actually if you watching this and you think I'm 5'6 and you want to try me in person please any [ __ ] who see me out I'm punching your [ __ ] out I'm like 5'9 on a good day when when I'm lying to women I'm 5'10 for sure who's gonna ID me I'm wearing forces I'm a [ __ ] liar all right so now for the truth jakee he's like what like he's 5 No but don't do that bro all right all right we won't we'll cut that out like yeah n don't cut it out n don't see me and see these but you know dvon is 5'5 legit that's cool bro I know but is that not short just be honest is that five five short for a grown man for a grown man is that short you can be a fan I'm not I'm a fan of javante and he's five that's a little little bro all right the joke went over his head anyways so the short joke [ __ ] is trying to play me like I'm short no no no we're we're not we're not you're [ __ ] tall all right let's pivot yeah so um SI yeah sh shout out to the shout out to the pivot but but yeah like Jasper's a little riled up things are on edge he's a little he's a little turned up it's been a long day a long two days we've been shooting uh because we have a new [ __ ] company did we say we talk about that yet I we said in the beginning raise your arms up [ __ ] goed [ __ ] goed shout out to w a fun few days it's been a fun few days days you're going to see the content rolling out um but you speaking of but Ruby Rose did a good job oh my God I wanted to bite that M listen anyway if you're near wmart if you're watching this right now I don't give a [ __ ] what you're doing you could be taking care of your kid you could be taking care of your elderly parents [ __ ] them go to Walmart June 1st Nationwide I don't care if you in Pensacola you in Massachusetts all in places that sound [ __ ] stupid there's a Walmart there and you go there it's a better for you product vitamin ifuse number [ __ ] one yeah no basically I I think dialing back like the business story of it because you're also like a very smart businessman intellectual doing everything you do in and outside of the Ring which a lot of people don't have which contributes to you being uh the biggest in my opinion the biggest UFC star um but yeah we we basically I guess this is the podcast where we tell people where W came from but um we started building this company like a year and a half ago and really saw how all these other companies like as we move into better for you products and less harmful products we saw how the leaders in the space didn't have the best formulas didn't have the best manufacturing had all of these harmful substances in it and we're also brands from when I was like 9 years old I don't want to list names but they're still like having all the Shelf space in stores and I was just like this is wild like this is boring this is lame the the the we need something new we need something that's better uh males have vitamin uh deficiencies like crazy especially with magnesium Jasper just can't get enough of it uh especially with magnesium um and biotin is in the body wash uh vitamin E one two of the best vitamins for your skin and hair um but as The Story Goes long story short we we come up with this brand that represents so many things um but I think winning in everyday life whether you're the valedictorian whether you are the high school jock whether you're philanthropist now you have a product that you can embody and wear every single day that's increasing your vitamin intake that is less harmful to you that's where the idea came from and just being the winning formula in category uh went to Walmart pitched them the whole idea they [ __ ] loved it helped us build the brand even and come up with the scent profiles and all the things that are the the most popular um and this has been something I've wanted to do for so long we had to bring in the best people to be a part of it the winners in their category and that's number one Numero Uno sha Ali here um and he instantly saw the vision and already in the past couple of days it's been like super fun filming all the content behind yeah I was pumped when you [ __ ] called me appreciate you thinking of me and uh excited to help grow this business [ __ ] it's needed it's needed we're going to take over the whole bathroom you know tooed if you [ __ ] with the dogs and cows and chickens dog in you I know what I got that dog in me and I use it so be dog free baby am I missing anything with that no I think that was great the one the one thing I would touch on and you did in a way but it's it is body wash it is body spray it is deodorant but it also is there's an ethos that stands behind this brand which is the ethos that you stand for and it's the ethos that you stand for and the ethos that you stand for and the one that I stand for if I say ethos again I'm GNA start stumbling over my words but it's it's it's like you said it it doesn't the winners in life aren't just you you're on a big stage in life you're you're you're crushing it in every aspect financially you're a star you're leading your sport that's awesome on every [ __ ] level it's it's an encouragement to to young men all around the world to [ __ ] get up off their ass and get sh it don't matter if you score high on a test you whatever the [ __ ] it is that you do well maybe not so it matters what the [ __ ] you do but it also doesn't matter what the [ __ ] you do anybody is a winner as long as you put in the work and you have the will to win and I love it I I would say that's wrong I would say that not anybody is a winner and I think that's something that the brand also stands for like you really got to win you got to as you have the will to win no I'm just saying I think that's an important point cuz we live in a world today where a lot of people think everybody can be a winner that's not true if you Los you might be a loser and if you're a loser the good news is there's a hidden l in the logo actually we'll trace it for you with our graphic design team there's a hidden l in the logo because and I I I wanted to make sure that was was a thing because the biggest loss of my life turned out to be the biggest W in my life and I always had the saying like two L's make a w and when I lost to Tommy Fury it was embarrassing all these things but I realized I wasn't focused I wasn't as locked in as I could be the team around me from a boxing standpoint wasn't good I was having personal issues with relationships and all of these things that I had to shed and grow from and I grew into this new and completely different person but I wouldn't have done that if I didn't lose on the biggest stage possible and I think that was part of the ethos ethos ethos ethos of the brand was to encourage people that in their lowest moments to turn those into into their biggest W's eventually when Jake just said that the biggest loss of his life ended up being the biggest W of his life you said same yeah yeah same what what was that story for supposedly lost for lost to Cheeto back in 2020 August it it was I mean it sucked at the time but I it didn't suck too bad because I was like okay I didn't lose because I you know and it was different I wasn't I mean I was focused everything went good training camp everything was good but I was like that sucks I'm goingon to get that back someday when the time is right and then my last fight two two months ago in Miami headline I'm the champ defending my belt against that same guy how rewarding was that three and a half years later August three and a half years later boom beat his ass as a fan of yours it made it so sweet because of all the doubters that constantly like put you down and didn't believe in you and said he was going to destroy you and then you he literally like you embarrass him that was a performance of a life you embarrassed the [ __ ] out of him and I think that's literally a prime example of turning l l into into a w and I really that's what that's where the hidden l in the brand in the logo is um and representing that every single day when you see these products in your bathroom and when we say we have a saying it's not just a product it's a lifestyle absolutely trademarked Incorporated All Rights Reserved 2024 brother uh but but yeah man it's it's an honor to have you a part of this and uh we we really made what we think are the best products on the market from the body wash being exfoliating vitamin infused to the body spray what we found out is a lot of these fragrances like you get like these high-end designer brands that have like $500 colognes turns out it only cost them a dollar to make that and they're literally making like $499 on top of that so we had a fine fragrance house is what these places are called and we got the super expensive scents and gave it to people to what they're worth like we're not trying to these products are super super affordable and I think it's so funny because that's the world we live in where like you just label something and get like a European girl to go this is one of the lower priced men's care products on the market yeah if I'm not mistaken and it's it's the $500 fragrance in the affordable bottle because we want everyone we've been using a body wash in the past two days since we got the samples after the shoot and I personally want to say I got the in there you could bleep it out whatever you want to do W's winning n b genuinely that's that's the saying is the it's winning formula cuz it really is like it really is if if we're going to call our company [ __ ] W it has to be the best we the winners winning product indeed indeed winning customers all that type of [ __ ] indeed better Derek today he's just got a punch I'm not Li I talked to him before he left he wants to punch you up bro he's got a punchable face I like him though it's weird it's like God I like that guy but I want [ __ ] KO pick him up and like it's okay boom one more to the liing me earlier and I'm just letting you know don't shoot the messenger on God he said he wants to get in the ring with you I can call him really he oh yeah he he you want to call him yeah where is he at is wait uh no call no call he's coming up oh um he's talking smack he said he actually wants a spar I swear to God he said he wants to get percentage should I go you guys I literally out let that's crazy timeing saying talk [ __ ] to my face if you're going to talk [ __ ] that's crazy timing what were you saying they were telling me you want to get in the ring and Spar bit or they didn't say Spar they said fight yeah I'm down to do either but uh yeah no I'm just sick of the [ __ ] [ __ ] you've been saying on your podcast uh you called me you made fun of my weight and you called me gay I did not no I well okay okay you said that he wouldn't ever say that what you got to say what your chest that's what I just [ __ ] said bro I he was like oh if I if stand on it you talking to him you talking to him you ain't talking to me my assistant Sono would would piece you he's never boxed a day he never I'm here to fight your video I'm here to fight you what did I what was the first thing I said to you when when I saw you what was the first thing I said to you that we could fight no I said you look thick wait but when we were talking earlier weren't you saying he's a [ __ ] and you wanted to get a ring with him and all type [ __ ] what I'm saying right now say it then I just said the [ __ ] ring so we can after this we have a ring 2 feet away and he's a [ __ ] and whatever else you was saying to me yeah he's [ __ ] what about my hair say something about my hair I I already said that at the W shoot that you look like you haven't showered in [ __ ] a week okay all right d hey buddy hey hey what's your long-term play not no but see you guys you guys are making me seem crazy you're out of your mind he Derek Dereck go warm up hit the hit the heavy back H the warm up is almost listen legendary as send location dble PIV go warm up hey hey double pivot sit sit I'm not [ __ ] no I I'll sit and talk but I'm not [ __ ] no sit on the floor walk you want to take my seat hey how much how much of what's going on ch ch how much of what's going on is is a character versus like actual delusion how much is a character yeah decent uh I would say there are times where I know what I have to do for my boxing career to like like we all why is he laughing cuz you said career I beat your [ __ ] boy your [ __ ] [ __ ] bro you know what I I recall you did beat I recall calling steiny saying what the [ __ ] was that buddy I love steiny but I do remember watching that and thinking I wasn't proud of that I was not proud of that from steiny and I wish I wish he would come to the gym I wish he'd get in there I wish he'd train a little bit and I wish he would have a rematch but that's on him I've been trying to get the rematch but he's been ding me do you think Derek won he said I won I thought I thought he won I'd have to rewatch but I do think I come on baby the comments have [ __ ] dragged me for months after that [ __ ] 99% of the comments say I lost so please say it one more time Sean no I said it what I said it's like therapy or something no but to answer your question uh we all know uh uh as Fighters there's a side of promotion stop [ __ ] first of all Gus shut the [ __ ] up our our audio guys uh like can't stop laughing is that the facial his facial hair or is what he's saying bro that's bold of you to talk facial hair bro that's bold of you to I'm not Li you look dirty you look like Jeffrey done training right Jesus I train every day but anyway we know like there's two sides of of promotion as well as the actual athletic competition that is Combat Sports so there are times where I might play up a little bit like hey promoting but let him go let him go all right if you if all if you think I'm all promoting that I'll see you in the [ __ ] ring and I'll knock both you either of you out well um well Jake's a [ __ ] fat [ __ ] right now he weighs like 240 so I got I goty I gotta pick my words wisely like he's Jake's 240 I I know I know but like I'm not going to sit here and pick a fight against somebody that's 240 when I'm se's my weight class when I stopped you in one round like just like but when I was getting started out of come this is where I'm at since then I told him he could have somebody tag team I'm down I'm down to fight anybody in this [ __ ] room not one person in this room I'm the best part about this is like uh right after this we I think you're you're down to do like one round or three minutes right I mean I'd prefer 12 but we okay yeah 12 I mean that my biggest advantage in the ring ring is my cardio I do 12 12 okay so no I have a genuine question so five round I'm not I'm not one have I ever said I'm a UFC fighter no I'm just say we can box I'm just saying that's I'm used to five you want to do three we could do that aren't you trying to be a boxer with your [ __ ] Ryan Garcia call he would knock knock your [ __ ] ass out so quickly it wouldn't be close I'm one and0 pro boxing what are you actually I saw that video I saw video I'm also want to know thank you officially hey they count that's real commiss but uh I didn't mean I didn't mean to take I didn't mean to take over the pot I just wanted to a couple you definitely didn't yeah okay I try I'm trying to help you no we love you go warm up yeah yeah go warm up the bags don't warm up too much though don't get tired how much do you wa right now without Timberlands and jean shorts on high 120 low 13 no without lying though okay that [ __ ] is you think you got you got him one round I think I could beat him I think I can beat him I I think I could handicap myself to three just put on one glove I could do that what do you think actually happens now when you go downstairs and he gets in that ring like what's his plan that's what I don't get about him but that's why it's that's do me a favor that's why he's Cloud it up because love [ __ ] up [ __ ] he's going he's going to try to Yap he's going to try to talk please just go 100% yeah no actually actually please go 100% if he signs a consent form we'll have him no we've already got like multiple consent forms for better media with like death wavers [ __ ] no no no but he needs it he needs that I'll go like 40 no go like 75 Sean I'm I'm going to be honest bro don't even go 20% he's the nice [ __ ] bro don't do that bro you want him to go 100% no no to be honest but just like work with him and then just like maybe just just like a really good punching and then he'll give up 75% uh I'm nervous man I'm shaking for Derek yeah yeah that's good I understand that there a couple flinches if you Flinch hard enough the the wind coming off you will put him down let him walk you down and bait him boom sleeping what's your next upcoming fight a maraba jaaba and when is that uh not nothing yet I'm hoping for September maybe October maybe November maybe December I'm F ready to go baby what if it was next month I wouldn't be ready to go I like I like 10 to 12 weeks 10 to 12 he likes eight I mean I I normally do like 10 yeah just like but I've been super the first few weeks are [ __ ] pre-amps this Camp I'm channeling my Ryan Garcia would you ever do a Ryan Garcia regiment during Camp drink and smoke every night you do a little I I probably yeah I'm not actually doing that for the people out there he's locked in clocked in locked in locked in ready to go yeah May 20th we start but by the time the people see this it'll be uh June or something like that that is crazy you're fighting Mike that you fought Ben asran wrestler good good [ __ ] UFC was really good UF bit Tyron Woodley twice Anderson Silva knockout of the year with Nate Robinson can't forget about deji deji the the the goat do we say Gibb or is that like that's just crazy resume like literally [ __ ] C by way thank you Gib cuz we had a really good party after he knocked you the [ __ ] out who W we're skipping two professional boxers this always no no the recent ones this always happens I'm trying to just think cuz two cuz this is what everybody asked for this is what everybody asked for who who are the two professional boxers you fighted you got to name them Andre August and Ryan Borland go okay people don't people are like fight a pro boxer and then I do and then they're like that was boring as a man of combat he what were 10 and one nine and one nine and one what is your take on his [ __ ] all of his fights and who he's fighting in the competition dude I've been excited as [ __ ] since I started I remember you I remember the first time I watched was the Nate Robinson I watched that one at home and then uh I don't remember what it was after that but I remember watching Ben Asam in Atlanta I think that was the first time we actually met was right after the fight I think we hugged I was like y I picked you up you carried me back to the locker room that it was love at first sight that was crazy actually yeah actually I [ __ ] with him we became best friends like a couple days later you going to leave me hanging no no I would it's my eyebrow but uh yeah no I think he's obviously super skilled I think it's and I I it's inspired me even in the position I'm at UFC World Champ sexy you know what I mean like tall dark handsome TR inspired me just business the business uh side of things that you've done I've always thought putting on massive fight that's why I'm such a huge Conor fan cuz the pay-per-views he's done is so [ __ ] he's been fighting for four years and [ __ ] that he's been doing the massive fights the fights I get excited for there's a few UFC fights the high the big big fights that I get excited for but every time you fought even when uh Logan fought Floyd I was [ __ ] like excited like all fight week so i' I've been inspired from what you've done from a business side from the boxing side they even just start so not late but for a boxer but these boxers start when they're [ __ ] three four years old like Ryan and tank like they're young buck the Tik Tac I sent you of Devon Haney's debut fight yeah it's wild he was fighting a five foot Mexican in a in a bar was it Dante bro if I show you this [ __ ] oh no I did see that I did see that I did see that when you started even seeing that first video fighting Anderson Silva six fights in bro like do you know how insane that is he's one of the greatest correct me if I'm wrong UFC Strikers in history yeah 100% so does that make me one of the greatest UFC Strikers and one of the greatest wrestlers cuz wood but Ben ask was but Nate Diaz is ducking me in MMA oh am crazy I am weak that's a sick fight MMA I I wish it was that would happened right after the boxing same he's actually ducking it which is why it's crazy because he's not he's not in UFC no but we we upped it to 15 million damn that's crazy though that would be a I like Nate Diaz but that would be such a fun buildup he actually doesn't want to do it all Sean how do you genuinely Jake's not here it's me and you in a room actually how do you see that fight going for Jake what MMA him you're not here J for Nate in MMA keep it a bean God it's it's so hard to you're a big [ __ ] right now on what weight would it be5 185 I don't hate I don't I it's not a it's a winable fight for you I really do think that but Nate is so [ __ ] you would have to do what I did against aljo and morab do not let that [ __ ] grab you not that you can't wrestle cuz I know you can wrestle but once he starts grabbing you and doing Jiu-Jitsu if he gets on top his little he likes his little trips it would be hard for you to win I feel like if he if he started grappling just pure Jiu-Jitsu if it let's be real if it goes to the floor is he [ __ ] if he's on his back Nate's not like a super strong guy so if you learn how to like I mean I'm sure you know how to get up to a single legegg stuff like that but then you start getting your neck grabbed I don't know how much Jiu-Jitsu you know I mean Nate's a [ __ ] high Lev black belt um if you could keep it standing 100% there's winnable ways there if he if he went to the ground feel like he might be able to grab your neck no that that's exactly how I feel about it if I don't get guillotined yeah then I win the fight because even if he was on top take your back but even if he was on top of me I would just throw him off of me cuz he's also the weakest puncher I've ever fought like when he was hitting me I was I almost like started laughing I'm I'm not even saying this to talk [ __ ] out of everyone I've sparred in my whole entire life and everyone I fought his punches are even me we I don't think you ever landed a punch on me is that true well that's not true so I don't anyone no I'm literally not even talking [ __ ] which is why I think it's funny that he dropped Connor and [ __ ] cuz it's just like how Conor with like to the ground yeah like with a straight left hand yeah which is crazy like I I'm not just talking [ __ ] when I say that and I've told you I've literally told you this you told me this after the fight yeah I was like he is the weakest puncher I've ever fought in my life who's who's the weakest puncher you've ever you've ever come to face um there I mean there's been so many fights where I later didn't even get hit um uh does that like make you jaded at all when you get into a fight and you don't really get love that [ __ ] I prefer not to get hit at all but like if I was you and I wasn't get hit at all I'd probably work less no no no no I I know I don't get hit because I work that hard so if I didn't work hard I know I'd probably get hit I'm just a lazy [ __ ] so so here you are on top of the world we're launching [ __ ] W going to be a billion dollar business [ __ ] you I always forget uh UFC champ accomplishing all your goals what do you want next uh what are what is the threeyear fiveyear for Sean I I truly do want to get a boxing fight I'm not I'm not super set on that to where like I'm like going to be [ __ ] if it doesn't happen I do think it'll be interesting especially if I go out there knock morab out Ryan does his thing I think there's a [ __ ] sweet fight there if it doesn't happen not that worried about it want to go out there beat morab I'd like to you know if Max Max and Elia fight I would like to fight go move up to 45 fight the winner of that um you know maybe have three to five maybe have a few more kids definitely want another little baby I love kids my fite pump him out shout out to Danny who's your top pick in a boxing fight though if you if you could choose your Ryan now was like the I mean what he after dvon Beat Ryan I was like javante then Ryan goes out there does his thing really though I think Dante do you is that is that not a big [ __ ] leap Ryan like you said before he's been doing this his whole life one thing that's been proven is that the crossover it's it's not a good return Fury he did his thing okay the excep is the exception we've seen it with okay but then Anthony Joshua put his ass t was crazy super night night he was I'm I'm here for big fights like I wanted to get into the UFC and I wanted to make big fights watching Conor versus Floyd I'm like that [ __ ] happened really happened hey you versus Derek that could be as big as Connor in Floyd but no but I I think the craziest [ __ ] about Conor versus Floyd is that overall it was a W for everyone involved so there's certain fights where it just like doesn't matter what happens that's the world we live in yeah I mean UFC told me they said if the if the fight's big enough and it'll make the UFC money they'll do it what means more to you your your your record being pre or the amount of money you're making all right let me ask you something it's about to get real J's drunk Jasper's drunk as [ __ ] y record or money [ __ ] it depends the Gap like like the gap of money if it's like an extra 10 15 20 million but I lose a couple important fights probably not you just take like 150 million I'll be like like [ __ ] my record baby yeah it depends on the gap of money Jake Paul is not here right now just like a Mayweather Conor McGregor you taking that fight ver Jake yeah no he's my buddy I could I mean I don't I don't even no I no funny no there's you know what's funny is always in my Snapchat story once once a day pretty much someone says we knock out Jake Paul like there's every sing all the time for so long people just want to see me get [ __ ] is good though that's like the thing yeah but I'm sensitive it is funny though people [ __ ] love to hate confidence the craziest thing though actually about both of you like I met you very recently like I didn't realize you're as like normal as you are I don't know why I thought you violent like you guys are both like very goofy mellow and stupid and c and and awesome it's like the greatest thing ever like I couldn't believe when I met you you're like one of us like yeah I wouldn't think you're a [ __ ] yeah one of the coolest people in the world for sure yeah but not a lot of people uh can like I don't know we have like a weird it's hard toes Meat Heads I'm like this the this my dog I think it's a little bit of dark humor too it's like some [ __ ] up [ __ ] that we say off camera [ __ ] sometimes but I think it's like there's a certain yeah like that's how my whole group is back home it's like we all just we're all just kind of [ __ ] dumb I'm smart but like they're dumb well someone commented like yo Jake Paul's the dumbest genius in the world and I was just like I say that [ __ ] all the time you wed up the other day and I was like this is the most genius dumbass in the world no jokes Hey Brother chill buddy trying to get me cancelled no what how old are you 23 are you really yeah no you're not he's not is he what do you think think what did you think Oh no you're 267 27 what did you think he was I thought he was older I thought he was like 27 26 yeah a niggaer mature was that ladies you got a boo you got a girl you just be slanging she timeout right now I don't really talk about she don't time out it's a little tricky she not taking care of herself what do you guys think about Tom Brady R you watch it yeah they kept comp panning to you every 5 Seconds bro I swear there's a huge camer sitting there the whole time but it's cool to see Netflix going hard like that cuz they went hard they swing that meat around huha yeah let's pivot yeah just sorry about him I'm drunk man not yeah but but it was it was great it wasar they should have got rid of most of the football players going up there yeah there's a couple ones Ben afflac is that who that was on there that was wild that was so weird that was so weird it was cool to see how [ __ ] less sensitive people are becoming I feel like feel like it's recently like there's a big push back I think people got sick of it we went super super super PC for a long time people were like wait a second we like being able to say what we want to say I saw kill Tony say oh type of crazy [ __ ] on there that watch every [ __ ] Monday you were on kill Tony yeah how old are you actually buddy I'm a comedian Budd full time no yeah I was on that I was nervous as hell though I was like just being it's a live I do podcast once a week like me and Tim do our podcast every [ __ ] week but to be there in front of an audience live it's weird it's a different kind of well so you say Tim but let's let's talk about actually the fact that you get trained by by one of the greatest boxers of all time it's really that's something what's happened like that's crazy working with Canelo as your as your coach that's what I'm saying people don't going to be Ryan but like yeah that is true I never even thought about that for did you even know that this guy proba even know that that orange [ __ ] is nice wait will I get cancelled by the ginger community no you're black oh no my dad my dad's Ginger and I'm I'm like this [ __ ] is ginger bro he be shaving he be shaving his beard and I zoom in zoom in it's it's slightly orange so I'm a quarter ginger on South Park they made fun of Gingers and that [ __ ] made the news I [ __ ] with the ginger people but like y'all [ __ ] you like redhead girls oh yeah was Super Soaker but anyway yeah like y'all [ __ ] is orange and that's okay but back to you one of y'all that's not drunk I got a question cuz this guy clipped out a lot did Tim actually like you guys about him like saying to fight that was yeah that was real Tim always be talking [ __ ] to the like he's been doing that for so long so what happened he just talk I mean he just he Alo the knee's coming Alo you got to shoot Alo watch out for this like he's been saying that since I've been in the UFC like my debut vers terion where he was talking [ __ ] to terion too and uh he just does it every fight but this happened to just be crazy timing to like Tim you got Tim like alre you got to go and like literally he he like that's when he threw that left hand or whatever stepped into Southpaw and uh or stepped into Orthodox and got dropped it was it was funny the timing because he's like Al you got to go I don't I truly don't think that's why that's not why Alo went I bet you could I bet Alo didn't even hear that but Tim's always chirping and stuff but people on the internet are [ __ ] mad about that a lot of them actually like it I'll say majority of people are thinking that's the funniest [ __ ] ever there's a couple [ __ ] that are like you should be banned think it's a fight would you run the alra fight back or one and done never I like that why would I yeah am I supposed to top that you know what I'm saying I got love for Alo we had him on the show and he he seems like a good dude I actually don't mind Alo I does that ever happen where like you'll have a personal relationship with someone personal runin with them and it's all great but then now all of a sudden you have to fight each other I've never had I've not of running with someone that's been like uh more than like I've ran into aljo morab at the UFC I'm like hey what's up talk to him a little bit you know nothing no ill will um but I haven't had like a run with someone I actually lik them mhm and then at the fight them so you're not friends with any any other UFC fighters oh I have a there's there's a couple guys in my in my weight class that I train with at the lab that are like climbing the r uh ladders what happened with uh the 125 pounder I I don't even know his name and I'm not I'm just not like yeah what's his name I Alexander pania bro this story is actually kind of funny so 2016 I think it was it was like 3 and0 4 and0 and I was still fighting at like I fought at 125 not too long before that I fought at like 130 which is in a weight class was like so I wasn't like a 155 like I am now I was probably like 14 back then and uh Henry cejudo comes in I'm three or four and0 at the point at this point it comes in with this kid Alexander PTO just won The Ultimate Fighter I think he's got his UFC debut or it's his second UFC fight he's a couple weeks out from his fight I'm [ __ ] the night before me and Tim ripping bongs like hanging out being goofballs and [ __ ] so the next morning so we brought him in for sparring hry sudo brings in Alexander you're 4-0 he's King [ __ ] he he's just won The Ultimate Fighter and so they write the names on on the board who who you're sparring I'm like oh [ __ ] I got Alexander Pantoja versus me for one round one round he has three rounds so you write one one name then usually you you spar with one guy then they go out you spar with a fresh guy they go out spar with the fresh guy that's usually how it works so my name was just up there for one round that's it we Spar one round I didn't know anything about him cuz I I didn't really watch it like that 25 I don't really watch 25ers like that but somebody's like oh [ __ ] that's he a black belt he just won The Ultimate Fighter I was like oh [ __ ] I got to [ __ ] Focus up here first round boom Dro him with a liver kick and I wasn't going to post I record all my rounds I have so many sparring rounds like I wasn't going to post it was and for some reason I don't know why he would talk [ __ ] and bring it up cuz I literally I don't know you know know I don't know if you know how it works but you finish a guy the fight's over right no no did he um so I finished him the first round he hit him boom with the liver I posted the video yesterday and I've had it for a long time I didn't want to post it CU you don't post sparring like that but he just kept bringing it up so boom finished him first round um then uh after the first round round I go to walk out and Henry's over there crying box of Kleenex just like [ __ ] wiping his tears crying we want you for a second round so mad that this little like I was nobody just finished his dude he's in the UFC he's supposed to be the man finish him in the first round so Henry's crying saying he wants another round um so I piece him up again in the second round and I'm I'm dying at this point my lungs are burning I'm not in shape for fight I I'm nowhere near in Camp for a fight and I my lungs are hurting and uh Henry again crying blowing his nose and like I want you for a third and Benson comes in Benson Henderson absolute Legend comes in and was yelling cuz that's his it was the his gym the MMA lab we don't let people come in our gym and make us tired and blah blah blah and I'm [ __ ] just just huffing and puffing I just got done work in this dude for 10 minutes finished him in the first round did I say that liver kick um we'll put the footage I have the foot yeah it's right there insert the footage so third round come out boom piece him up again and he's so I don't know why he keeps bringing up this bringing this up in the media I think it's because people ask him but I don't know why he doesn't just say yeah yeah no no I don't want to talk about it he keeps saying like he's like oh I got in I found his range and [ __ ] I'm like bro you you stopped him in one round stopped him in round one and let him live and continue to fight for round two these delusional uh like wild people are weirdos but the reason I posted cuz he kept bringing it up exactly wait so is he the champ now at 125 yeah okay but why does he still want to talk [ __ ] to you if you got [ __ ] up that's what I'm saying I don't know either either you drop to 125 and get that no I can't drop to 125 that's too much now you're a thick [ __ ] I am a thick but yeah I SP I think it's important for up and cominging Spar uh fighters to record their rounds and watch their rounds not for that this reason you know but just to I've improve so much watching my sparring y I have thousands of rounds maybe not thousands hundreds of rounds from 10 years ago on my on my computer of uh it's like NFL team is watching footage the time [ __ ] 100% got to watch that [ __ ] that's I I have every single round recorded and and again I I don't post sparring either exactly you know put in a highlight video make a vlog boom we're sparring people but it's never like [ __ ] up your guy yeah exactly but Mike Perry honestly like what he's been doing is pretty Fu he went to Bare knuckle that [ __ ] just meant for him bare knuckle fighting it's crazy different going crazy he's doing good he's [ __ ] undefeated over there he's beating some really good guys stay over here [ __ ] [ __ ] only place that you should be getting tickets from is game time.co it's it's the only place I go it is the only place you can possibly go they have 110% price match guarantee that's what we use to get our tickets for the NBA Finals you can get $20 off your first order go to gametime.co JJ a $20 off your first order they're doing a deal specifically for y'all and you could see where your tickets are before you buy them seeing the seats they have all of the these great policies last 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platform there is Mike Paul versus Jake Tyson here's my official prediction tell us and even if even if it's against me like it's not it's not I do think you're going to beat Mike Tyson uh it's crazy that I even saying that out loud right now cuz you're fighting Mike Tyson it's [ __ ] crazy even just when we were walking down the the street today people all genders all ages knew you were fighting Mike Tyson it's such a massive fights live on Netflix which is [ __ ] crazy it's in a stadium which is [ __ ] crazy it is crazy I believe in you I see what you I see what you're doing I see you know that you believe in yourself Mike Tyson is uh hasn't fought in however long it's been so for him to just come up and get a fight be I I'm sure is going to be in as good a shape as he possibly could be in but it's just you know it's it's it's it's not his time right now I love Mike Tyson I never actually met him but I love Mike Tyson I do think Jake's gonna get the job done and I do think eight rounds eight two-minute rounds eight two-minute rounds I believe I believe you could put them away in the later rounds you know five six seven eight I do think you could put it put him down which is crazy to even [ __ ] think you rap yeah that's fire I'm just lazy and inconsistent that's not a w no that sh it is not you start using Brandon yell at him every day but cuz you can actually spit that's fire no but but people know him now from like podcasting they don't know he's a rapper and hurts his soul J sick name Lil jizz what J JZ that's good that's good you should switch your [ __ ] I switch my [ __ ] from come Master to kill Jas bro honestly though that's I think singing rapping spitting is one of the things that if I could switch talents be doing something like that that's good or twerking I ain't going to lie you shook that [ __ ] earlier I got a I got a thing on me you that [ __ ] wiggle a little bit let's let's pivot though cuz yep hit a pivot uh yeah do we have a speaker should we play Jasper's new song or something you got a new one I thought you were lazy some new [ __ ] go ahead play on your phone just put it in the speaker put it in the mic too this the [ __ ] I'm dropping when I'm Indie that sound decent I'm not rapping either I'm yapping that's not going to get you drunk yo I made this beat that's crazy I like the way you look I won't lie you got something I need you my with a fly girl like you doing with no guy a little sh don't really go outside I'm not crazy right place and right time you all smiles and pretty light brown [Music] [Music] like that better if I forget you but I just can't time saying do better and I'm sure you can find that guy that's worth all right cut it cut it cut it that's that's enough that's enough that's enough that's enough for real can't give the whole thing it's not out yet yeah hey good [ __ ] that's fire I'll be rapping though but that's some pop [ __ ] just cuz I can do it so why are you consistent cuz I'm lazy and jaded and and spoiled yeah it's unfortunate maam shout out to the homies for a lot of talented people out there that just are yeah don't smoke crack yo also there there is a parallel there don't do don't do that there's a parallel with the same thing he's talking about I think Fighters probably where it's like you could have all the talent in the world he's got that's why I get so [ __ ] mad at him it's cuz he has all the talent in the world really I get more pissed off than he gets and he could be a superstar but he just is lazy he doesn't put the work in he's not he's not strategic and it is hard when you got when you live in a crib in Puerto Rico right you got chefs and [ __ ] and you fly private with me yeah that's it that's it bro that's it you got to you got get paychecks and [ __ ] y'all got to evict me that's not a bad idea honestly I think we talked about it let's make I was I'm H we had a conversation but I just can't I can't because I love you so much I need you but then I'll probably be more like need you y yeah I guarante and then we you would still have to like fly in once a week to to do the pods and it would be resentment and then I I'll go out like and I'll try to start shooting at y'all oh my God I guarantee I would be in the position I'm in if I if I had money and like had already made it like financially had [ __ ] I wouldn't have made it that's why people think I'm crazy but CC the other side of it is like boom right so I'm from com California same hey shout out my [ __ ] yeah man I was homeless for the first half of my life mom's a drug addict dad's a gang member I've never had anything in my life right and my whole life has been music I dropped out in ninth grade I was like I'm going to make music my dad kicks me out he's like you can't live under this roof like be more like your brothers my brothers are [ __ ] star students one got a full ride scholarship loser all all type of [ __ ] nerd ass [ __ ] all those [ __ ] are fat and unemploy now one dropped out of school a full rise scholarship and is just sitting at home right so boom from having nothing to like me saying I'm going to risk everything that I have in my life to become a music artist and it works I get to a certain place and I'm like damn I did exactly I hit a ceiling right so it's like now I had to recalibrate he got a big record deal and then and then like use I crashed out and became a m addict for four four days a week for 30 like 90 days oh it's not bad but then I moved cuz my homeboy was like you need to move and I was like nah [ __ ] that I made a million I ain't going to move I'm going to maintain this lifestyle I'm a junkie but I'm rich yep I crashed out and was like yeah I need to move lost 60 lbs went to Puerto Rico locked in recalibrated and now I'm ready to be but that's that's here's the problem we run into now is that you've recalibrated and now it's still it's been 6 months the album's supposed to be 6 months ago and we're still waiting for the album that's the problem and that's what you got to work on never too late though let's start it let's get because you're vitamin deficient right yeah yeah cuz like a lot of people can't think straight when they're vitamin deficient and all that a week ago kind of elaborated on that so yeah this isn't therapy um I got shout out Suzie right right huh Susie but she's hot is she not you think my therapist you guys got the same one I could pee and vape on this podcast I got to go pee go pee I could pee yeah I mean I think we I think we end the episode because uh let's wrap it up you can get W available at Walmart anyway if you walk into Walmart whether you with your mom your daddy you by yourself you go in that [ __ ] men body care aisle you buy that and comment down below what you thought of the episode for um us being brain fried over and uh jper but Buzz also comment cuz this coming out when the product releases comment your favorite scent and sent $10,000 right no I'm send you 1,000 I ain't got 10,000 for you but I'll send you 1,000 I'll send someone 10,000 he'll send you 10,000 I'll send you a th000 and I'm going through the comments for sure anyway good luck Charlie and if you got a test soon good luck on that [ __ ] that's what we [Music] do what are those 8 O gloves I want you to know they were talking up there he ain't going easy so be ready all right legit be ready buddy I'm using these bags don't show Too Much don't show we're boxing we're boxing I don't I do that on accident sometimes just know that that might come up just keep your hands up I'm just saying I might throw that up I haven't knocked someone out in a while just cuz my last fight didn't go off it went off five rounds I've been like craving just putting someone's lights out lately it's weird versus your boy better Derek I I hope Sean isn't nice and just [ __ ] him up that's your that's your trainee [ __ ] D all righty folks welcome to your main event of the evening starting out first in the loser corner you have better day with a record of no wins no losses I beat ste's [ __ ] out no anything he is 5'7 120 lbs lost in the mile to better JoJo but he's still delusional in his fighting career and to my left in the winning Corner sponsored by W sugar sha Ali The Undefeated UFC champion of the world it's time to fight bring it to the center we already spoke about the rules in the locker room beforehand give me your glove give me your hand touch gloves I want a clean fair fight no no hits below the waist back to your Corners time you ready judge you ready and fight [Music] [Applause] I'm out of balance or something oh do Dodge that [ __ ] hold on hold on hold on hold [ __ ] come on come on just oh my God one back of the head no no no back of the head four ref didn't see it five six me in the eyes Walk This Way Walk This Way for me he's running Walk This Way for me my car run all right and we're in in that right that's called all right time time time one two that was a that was a slip four up six bro Rizo what the [ __ ] are you doing all right get up SLP all right come on time in come on got come on got you [ __ ] black I'm going to I need to work I need to see some work black UT D somebody said 10 seconds like 8 seconds ago all right great back to your corner back to your corner back to your corner stay in there you're doing good right now this feel good I feel good do you see that one I landed clean on his face I think we all terrible shut the [ __ ] up for once in your [ __ ] life shut the [ __ ] up Sean's doing half punches on him shut up I'll act like uh no don't act like bro I'm just I'm putting in work all right how this how you when you [ __ ] beat the old wash UFC fighters everybody comments you're fighting old was UFC fighters what do you think 10s I think they're right in in round two round two round two oh got him [ __ ] oh [Music] [ __ ] hey put that hey that that's a that's going to be a 10 count can't get me by the that's going to be a 10 count that's going to be a 10 count next time back in the just there going to be a 10 count next time get in there give me real quick get him with some you thank you perfect okay BL I'm going to need to see some more one two back to your corner white Corner neutral Corner 5 6 seven eight n look at me thank you bro come on you want to fight do you want to fight when I do you want to fight yes yeah wait wait time back in wake up time time time time time I promise okay it's to the floor the rules of transfer to MMA tap tap tap he's St he's T he's ta all right I block out all right you're good to go wait wait the fight was over get the [ __ ] out of the ring oh it's over it's over it's over it's over go you got it's over it's over it's over [Music]	dumbass in the world no jokes Hey Brother chill buddy trying to get me cancelled no what how old are you 23 are you really yeah no you're not he's not is he what do you think think what did you think Oh no you're 267 27 what did you think he was I thought he was older I thought he was like 27 26 yeah a niggaer mature was that ladies you got a boo you got a girl you just be slanging she timeout right now I don't really talk about she don't time out it's a little tricky she not taking care of herself what do you guys think about Tom Brady R you watch it yeah they kept comp panning to you every 5 Seconds bro I swear there's a huge camer sitting there the whole time but it's cool to see Netflix going hard like that cuz they went hard they swing that meat around huha yeah let's pivot yeah just sorry about him I'm drunk man not yeah but but it was it was great it wasar they should have got rid of most of the football players going up there yeah there's a couple ones Ben afflac is that who that was on there that was wild that was so weird that was so weird it was cool to see how [ __ ] less sensitive people are becoming I feel like feel like it's recently like there's a big push back I	2	6	4	dumbass in the world no jokes Hey Brother chill buddy 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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXPZ1KzdpsY	4,103	mXPZ1KzdpsY	2024-06-20 00:00:00	well well well ladies and gentlemen do we have a special episode for you today none other than sugar Shan om Ali the current UFC bantamweight champion a legend in his own right this episode was off the cusp we were a little turned up Jasper was really really drunk so we weren't really prepared for this at all the conversations definitely got wild and obviously as you guys have seen over maybe the past week or so we launched a new company called w am men's carine in Walmart this company is so near and dear to my heart and I partnered with Shawn to bring this Vision to life amongst other celebrities artists and athletes that we are announcing over the next couple of weeks here get your w at Walmart it is very very very very very good stuff and yes you heard the news I am fighting Mike Perry on July 20th it is going down I'm still fighting Mike Tyson November 15th that is happening but I'm staying active knocking out Mike Perry on July 20th and I'm excited for y'all to listen to this episode and he the vision of w how it all came together and how Shawn got involved and then everything to do with Shawn's career this podcast has been a long time coming but prepare yourself for some idiocracy per usual uh this is [ __ ] with Jake Paul we have a secret handshake check it out AC let me get that stop playing mean yeah we created that because we actually have so many things to get into here this has been a long time coming Jasper did bring up something and the reason W was created was because the other products in the category had harmful dyes parabens sulfates hormone disruptors and so we wanted to create the better for you vitamin infused product and and Sean's a co-owner just signed today yesterday for the show but we we'll get into all of that we we've been you know bringing sea on for like we've been talking for like a month and a half yes sir yes sir um it is currently May we've been doing a lot of shoots this podcast will probably come out at post W launch you can get I'm so drunk I'm sorry y'all you can get it in uh Walmart every Walmart you in Paca Walmart get it in you in Pensacola it's in Walmart in Kentucky Walmart Walmart so basically uh we we brought in the greatest people in the world to help build W and Sean is one of those people but dialing everything back we will get into the company the body washes how this all came about but uh we've been wanting to do this podcast and thanks for joining us BR hey guys hey thanks for joining us right did you uh yeah I did you sh for an hour bro did you did you do do we know do we set the stage of the day and the fact that Jasper's slash right now okay cool y drunk is a [ __ ] y like double drunk yep yep yep you drunk yeah all that so um but just winding everything back uh I think we've been friends for a long time in fact you were the first guest on this show oh [ __ ] crazy Zoom crazy that's right that's right that's right the first ever episode you zoomed in and that's crazy we're thankful we're thankful for our friendship and it's pretty cool that now we're here again today uh getting less views than before and that's fire that's it congratulations less views we're not we're not it was it was a joke it was a joke if you watching this please like and comment cuz we falling off right now but man by the time this comes out you're going to be getting ready for me RAB how do you say his name I don't remember morab is iTab or or I don't know me that's got to be it me but you got to say it with the emphasis look meab mirab meab meab there you go there you go so yeah I should be getting ready hopefully I ain't got nothing scheduled hopefully uh you know Uncle Dana will call me say hey buddy you want to fight in in here and there and there and then I'm d b boom and that that's how that works what's up with everybody on your body though everybody talking [ __ ] even people youat I wanted to bring up yeah and he's like saying like he's trying to post about you even yesterday it is weird but when you concuss someone you know what I just say they don't think as well as they used to so I think he's still concussed and he's a little confused because he's talking [ __ ] still he not in his right mind because I can just throw up another post go because it's a throwback Thursday it's a throwback Friday do you think do you think people don't respect you enough cuz I I see that as your friend an unbiased like they just see social media and podcasts and the the hair and stuff like that and then they just sh week but I [ __ ] with you I appr that um I don't think it is well you can't you know I think it's fine I think you're jealous I ain't going to lie I got some inches under here let's smell that hair you can smell my [ __ ] must who I do think I feel a little bit disrespected as the champ but I think that last fight against Che kind of you know shut a little bit of people up canny go five rounds Cheeto beat me before the Alo fight um shut a lot of people up canny grapple didn't have to Grapple cuz he couldn't take me down yeah Alo couldn't take you down I think that was the biggest thing where they were like yo that's his weakness like yeah wrestle him down and then he just proved everyone wrong that's what's so interesting about this morab fight is he's supposedly well he is he's [ __ ] good at wrestling he's really really good at wrestling he's boring as [ __ ] and no one will there won't be one comment saying yeah right he's actually kind of fun not one person I'm com won I'm com you can I ask you something would you put yourself in your own top five Strikers in the UFC oh I'm yeah yo easily who's your Mount Rushmore strikker well I I mean I would unbiasedly I would put him as number one because adna is in like top three but he also like got beat by put that [ __ ] down boy he did uh bro I'm up there I'm up there Max is really good Max super his striking that's a good top five there that's four me Max Elia adaga uh I'm sure I'm missing some your with a one would it be that's that's a minus one Mount rmore is four yeah but I only got four but if you throw the five in it's a plus one isn't there only four yeah but but you ready to throw the five up I'm four all right that's my more but yeah once again uh this is a [ __ ] ass podcast so we apologize hey but something something you just touched on you talked about Fighters being fun and interesting how much and you're you're a superstar how much of you being a superstar how much of any fighter being a superstar comes down to them being fun and interesting as you are and how much of it comes down to their actual fighting good question uh well who's a super who who obviously Connor comes to mind I think he's he's a character he's fun he's interesting who else comes to mind is like a superstar I would say Izzy gives that off I think he's an interesting guy other than that there's not like a ton of fun like Ryan Garcia is doing a really good job right now of being [ __ ] interesting being a character uh I think that's fentel I think it's drugs as well I wouldn't deny that but he's still making people interested in Ryan versus Devon Haney was an interesting fight not because Devon Haney that dude's boring as [ __ ] you think he did them roids no I don't think Ryan did I think Devon needs to take that L he being a [ __ ] about I think the craziest [ __ ] you said to me and like I don't even know if we want to put this in there or bring it up but we we can always remove it but uh because of your your situation with the ostarine and you said to me like and it I like fully felt your energy you're like I swear on my daughter's life I never did that and you got popped for it yeah same thing happened uh to Ryan right now he popped for aost the low super low level a some [ __ ] like a trillionth of a gr the same thing happened to me uh so when that came out with Ryan like I truly truly didn't believe he took anything because it was the same [ __ ] and it happens to a lot of [ __ ] ostarine happens to how does that happen it's called the tainted supplement so if you're taking anything that has protein in it that's not third party tested uh could not just protein any kind of supplement that's not third party tested it's either NSF or there's a bunch of different third party tests but if you're not if you're taking something that doesn't have that there's chances there could be something in it but austram people pop for that all the time my case was not that big of a deal cuz I wasn't as huge of a star as I am now but it still was like a big deal because of my name the reason it's going so crazy right now is because Ryan G is a superstar so people are freaking out but it happens to a lot of athletes I just before we move past it I just on that Superstar topic how is that is that Superstar factor that that someone like you has someone like Ryan has someone like Connor has is it something you're born with or is it is it a practice is it something you can learn and do you sit back and like think like oh how can I go viral today how can I I think it's both I think you have to want to be a superstar there's some guys in the UFC like I want to make more money I want this I want that but they don't really want to be a superstar you you got to want it you got to you got to have some kind of vision a long time before well and and also like who you are as a person you have to have that like Fire Within still though like before you got into want famous I want to be in the NFL I want to be NBA I wanted to be a [ __ ] athlete when I was young was instilled I was just for whatever reason I wanted to make it when I was young I'm from H in Montana like small ass can I ask you something what's your opinion on like the take b nickel takes like where he's like super friendly and humble and like I think he's a sweet ass [ __ ] they love him but like bro that [ __ ] pisses me off I think that [ __ ] is cool too n like you're a hum like [ __ ] talk your [ __ ] you're what 670 like bro talk your [ __ ] like it it kind of bores me no I get yeah I mean that's that's some people's opinion is like he's too nice too humble too that but he's being himself um but he's also super young in the sport I think he and he's still pretty what is he 28 you're in a sport of War if I was playing like [ __ ] Cricket I would be like yeah like but that's that's the thing is for for for a character like him what it seems like is that's what he's in is the sport of war and that's it he's not in the sport of entertainment he's a nice ass sweetheart get there is some people that that understand both sides of things but I also have respect for and I see when someone's that's strictly in the sport of if I play chess with you I'm going to be like good game and I'm going to shake your hand I talk [ __ ] be F ass to a PO it I'm going to be like [ __ ] you you need to get better at whatever you're doing dial dialing it back a little bit um to the aost stream thing I think it's like what do you think about Conor tweeting still at like 3:00 a.m. like coked out he he he he sent shots at me and Ryan talking [ __ ] but it's it's crazy coming from Connor who literally got out of the usada pool to do steroid like legit steroids so it's kind of wild and I was the biggest Connor fan for a long time in the last couple weeks ever since he sent that wasn't even a couple weeks ago probably a week ago I've been trying to hate him I've been trying to be like [ __ ] you Connor but I can't I love Connor I it's like I am excited for his fight coming up I'm excited I want you know I'm all about it what's the fight is it Chandler Chandler in June it's going to be big they just been trying to do it for a long time so I didn't know if it still still I think officially I think it's I think I think the craziest part about it is what like eight weeks before a fight that he's still like coked and drunk out of his mind who you got though who that's a good it is crazy that he still like he tweeted that deleted like 20 minutes later he was definitely [ __ ] up on well that's what I was going to say we can't just Grace past that do you is that that's a that's a bold thing to say do you you know he's on coke is that a is that are you [ __ ] gills I don't know anything but I know for certain that he's brother like look at the time of the tweets and look at what he's saying like also and he's like known for this simar tweets yeah yeah I don't know just manic brother I think he is I do think Ryan is I think he when he said he was playing into it a little bit I I think he's kind of using that I think he's [ __ ] crazy what what what would happen if you and Ryan boxed that's I mean there's only one way to find out he has a lot better chances of beating me in a boxing match than he does in a real fight keep up I do I I [ __ ] I truly believe in myself that's how I got to the [ __ ] position I'm in right now I can box I can throw hands um I don't think it'd be easy by any means I do think it's possible I beat him I'm not saying my my odds are great but I do believe I could beat Ryan Bo if there was anybody you could box for your first boxing match debut who are you Bo give an easy fight give me Deon Haney you give [Laughter] me honest answer uh I mean if we're I I would say Floyd if I Pi if I could sit here and pick who I box first boxing fight I pick Floyd because it would be the biggest most crazy most legendary fight maybe not most legendary some people for me okay but outside of that on a skill based level oh I I could hang with some good [ __ ] pro boxers I'm undefeated in boxing you think you think if you and uh ilot boxed that' be ilot is very very [ __ ] skilled boxing that's an interesting question so who what what professional boxer would you equate your PA Mike Tyson I know of Devon Haney now because Ryan Garcia beat him uh dvon Davis he's really short I know him um maybe smacking [ __ ] up though he does he that little guy he can't he can't ride roll coasters though that is true so there's a there's a tradeoff like Cruz fight he was riding a roller coaster no like I'm talking about like at the fair oh no you know like there there's a trade-off in life you know where things get weird it's like it's like yo he's really good but you can't even just hit Dante fan brother can't even ride the top not a Dante fan that's not what I'm wait what did what did I say to say I'm not a you didn't say I mean I don't think he knows that it's a short joke I don't think he picked up on you want me tell him I was joking shut the [ __ ] up I get I say that was a joke I'm what are you trying to say I'm but are you trying to insinuate that I'm short no honestly you're probably what five you're 5'9 you're like 5' seven and a half stop doing stop doing it stop doing that cuz [ __ ] is going to see this and be like he's 5'6 actually if you watching this and you think I'm 5'6 and you want to try me in person please any [ __ ] who see me out I'm punching your [ __ ] out I'm like 5'9 on a good day when when I'm lying to women I'm 5'10 for sure who's gonna ID me I'm wearing forces I'm a [ __ ] liar all right so now for the truth jakee he's like what like he's 5 No but don't do that bro all right all right we won't we'll cut that out like yeah n don't cut it out n don't see me and see these but you know dvon is 5'5 legit that's cool bro I know but is that not short just be honest is that five five short for a grown man for a grown man is that short you can be a fan I'm not I'm a fan of javante and he's five that's a little little bro all right the joke went over his head anyways so the short joke [ __ ] is trying to play me like I'm short no no no we're we're not we're not you're [ __ ] tall all right let's pivot yeah so um SI yeah sh shout out to the shout out to the pivot but but yeah like Jasper's a little riled up things are on edge he's a little he's a little turned up it's been a long day a long two days we've been shooting uh because we have a new [ __ ] company did we say we talk about that yet I we said in the beginning raise your arms up [ __ ] goed [ __ ] goed shout out to w a fun few days it's been a fun few days days you're going to see the content rolling out um but you speaking of but Ruby Rose did a good job oh my God I wanted to bite that M listen anyway if you're near wmart if you're watching this right now I don't give a [ __ ] what you're doing you could be taking care of your kid you could be taking care of your elderly parents [ __ ] them go to Walmart June 1st Nationwide I don't care if you in Pensacola you in Massachusetts all in places that sound [ __ ] stupid there's a Walmart there and you go there it's a better for you product vitamin ifuse number [ __ ] one yeah no basically I I think dialing back like the business story of it because you're also like a very smart businessman intellectual doing everything you do in and outside of the Ring which a lot of people don't have which contributes to you being uh the biggest in my opinion the biggest UFC star um but yeah we we basically I guess this is the podcast where we tell people where W came from but um we started building this company like a year and a half ago and really saw how all these other companies like as we move into better for you products and less harmful products we saw how the leaders in the space didn't have the best formulas didn't have the best manufacturing had all of these harmful substances in it and we're also brands from when I was like 9 years old I don't want to list names but they're still like having all the Shelf space in stores and I was just like this is wild like this is boring this is lame the the the we need something new we need something that's better uh males have vitamin uh deficiencies like crazy especially with magnesium Jasper just can't get enough of it uh especially with magnesium um and biotin is in the body wash uh vitamin E one two of the best vitamins for your skin and hair um but as The Story Goes long story short we we come up with this brand that represents so many things um but I think winning in everyday life whether you're the valedictorian whether you are the high school jock whether you're philanthropist now you have a product that you can embody and wear every single day that's increasing your vitamin intake that is less harmful to you that's where the idea came from and just being the winning formula in category uh went to Walmart pitched them the whole idea they [ __ ] loved it helped us build the brand even and come up with the scent profiles and all the things that are the the most popular um and this has been something I've wanted to do for so long we had to bring in the best people to be a part of it the winners in their category and that's number one Numero Uno sha Ali here um and he instantly saw the vision and already in the past couple of days it's been like super fun filming all the content behind yeah I was pumped when you [ __ ] called me appreciate you thinking of me and uh excited to help grow this business [ __ ] it's needed it's needed we're going to take over the whole bathroom you know tooed if you [ __ ] with the dogs and cows and chickens dog in you I know what I got that dog in me and I use it so be dog free baby am I missing anything with that no I think that was great the one the one thing I would touch on and you did in a way but it's it is body wash it is body spray it is deodorant but it also is there's an ethos that stands behind this brand which is the ethos that you stand for and it's the ethos that you stand for and the ethos that you stand for and the one that I stand for if I say ethos again I'm GNA start stumbling over my words but it's it's it's like you said it it doesn't the winners in life aren't just you you're on a big stage in life you're you're you're crushing it in every aspect financially you're a star you're leading your sport that's awesome on every [ __ ] level it's it's an encouragement to to young men all around the world to [ __ ] get up off their ass and get sh it don't matter if you score high on a test you whatever the [ __ ] it is that you do well maybe not so it matters what the [ __ ] you do but it also doesn't matter what the [ __ ] you do anybody is a winner as long as you put in the work and you have the will to win and I love it I I would say that's wrong I would say that not anybody is a winner and I think that's something that the brand also stands for like you really got to win you got to as you have the will to win no I'm just saying I think that's an important point cuz we live in a world today where a lot of people think everybody can be a winner that's not true if you Los you might be a loser and if you're a loser the good news is there's a hidden l in the logo actually we'll trace it for you with our graphic design team there's a hidden l in the logo because and I I I wanted to make sure that was was a thing because the biggest loss of my life turned out to be the biggest W in my life and I always had the saying like two L's make a w and when I lost to Tommy Fury it was embarrassing all these things but I realized I wasn't focused I wasn't as locked in as I could be the team around me from a boxing standpoint wasn't good I was having personal issues with relationships and all of these things that I had to shed and grow from and I grew into this new and completely different person but I wouldn't have done that if I didn't lose on the biggest stage possible and I think that was part of the ethos ethos ethos ethos of the brand was to encourage people that in their lowest moments to turn those into into their biggest W's eventually when Jake just said that the biggest loss of his life ended up being the biggest W of his life you said same yeah yeah same what what was that story for supposedly lost for lost to Cheeto back in 2020 August it it was I mean it sucked at the time but I it didn't suck too bad because I was like okay I didn't lose because I you know and it was different I wasn't I mean I was focused everything went good training camp everything was good but I was like that sucks I'm goingon to get that back someday when the time is right and then my last fight two two months ago in Miami headline I'm the champ defending my belt against that same guy how rewarding was that three and a half years later August three and a half years later boom beat his ass as a fan of yours it made it so sweet because of all the doubters that constantly like put you down and didn't believe in you and said he was going to destroy you and then you he literally like you embarrass him that was a performance of a life you embarrassed the [ __ ] out of him and I think that's literally a prime example of turning l l into into a w and I really that's what that's where the hidden l in the brand in the logo is um and representing that every single day when you see these products in your bathroom and when we say we have a saying it's not just a product it's a lifestyle absolutely trademarked Incorporated All Rights Reserved 2024 brother uh but but yeah man it's it's an honor to have you a part of this and uh we we really made what we think are the best products on the market from the body wash being exfoliating vitamin infused to the body spray what we found out is a lot of these fragrances like you get like these high-end designer brands that have like $500 colognes turns out it only cost them a dollar to make that and they're literally making like $499 on top of that so we had a fine fragrance house is what these places are called and we got the super expensive scents and gave it to people to what they're worth like we're not trying to these products are super super affordable and I think it's so funny because that's the world we live in where like you just label something and get like a European girl to go this is one of the lower priced men's care products on the market yeah if I'm not mistaken and it's it's the $500 fragrance in the affordable bottle because we want everyone we've been using a body wash in the past two days since we got the samples after the shoot and I personally want to say I got the in there you could bleep it out whatever you want to do W's winning n b genuinely that's that's the saying is the it's winning formula cuz it really is like it really is if if we're going to call our company [ __ ] W it has to be the best we the winners winning product indeed indeed winning customers all that type of [ __ ] indeed better Derek today he's just got a punch I'm not Li I talked to him before he left he wants to punch you up bro he's got a punchable face I like him though it's weird it's like God I like that guy but I want [ __ ] KO pick him up and like it's okay boom one more to the liing me earlier and I'm just letting you know don't shoot the messenger on God he said he wants to get in the ring with you I can call him really he oh yeah he he you want to call him yeah where is he at is wait uh no call no call he's coming up oh um he's talking smack he said he actually wants a spar I swear to God he said he wants to get percentage should I go you guys I literally out let that's crazy timeing saying talk [ __ ] to my face if you're going to talk [ __ ] that's crazy timing what were you saying they were telling me you want to get in the ring and Spar bit or they didn't say Spar they said fight yeah I'm down to do either but uh yeah no I'm just sick of the [ __ ] [ __ ] you've been saying on your podcast uh you called me you made fun of my weight and you called me gay I did not no I well okay okay you said that he wouldn't ever say that what you got to say what your chest that's what I just [ __ ] said bro I he was like oh if I if stand on it you talking to him you talking to him you ain't talking to me my assistant Sono would would piece you he's never boxed a day he never I'm here to fight your video I'm here to fight you what did I what was the first thing I said to you when when I saw you what was the first thing I said to you that we could fight no I said you look thick wait but when we were talking earlier weren't you saying he's a [ __ ] and you wanted to get a ring with him and all type [ __ ] what I'm saying right now say it then I just said the [ __ ] ring so we can after this we have a ring 2 feet away and he's a [ __ ] and whatever else you was saying to me yeah he's [ __ ] what about my hair say something about my hair I I already said that at the W shoot that you look like you haven't showered in [ __ ] a week okay all right d hey buddy hey hey what's your long-term play not no but see you guys you guys are making me seem crazy you're out of your mind he Derek Dereck go warm up hit the hit the heavy back H the warm up is almost listen legendary as send location dble PIV go warm up hey hey double pivot sit sit I'm not [ __ ] no I I'll sit and talk but I'm not [ __ ] no sit on the floor walk you want to take my seat hey how much how much of what's going on ch ch how much of what's going on is is a character versus like actual delusion how much is a character yeah decent uh I would say there are times where I know what I have to do for my boxing career to like like we all why is he laughing cuz you said career I beat your [ __ ] boy your [ __ ] [ __ ] bro you know what I I recall you did beat I recall calling steiny saying what the [ __ ] was that buddy I love steiny but I do remember watching that and thinking I wasn't proud of that I was not proud of that from steiny and I wish I wish he would come to the gym I wish he'd get in there I wish he'd train a little bit and I wish he would have a rematch but that's on him I've been trying to get the rematch but he's been ding me do you think Derek won he said I won I thought I thought he won I'd have to rewatch but I do think I come on baby the comments have [ __ ] dragged me for months after that [ __ ] 99% of the comments say I lost so please say it one more time Sean no I said it what I said it's like therapy or something no but to answer your question uh we all know uh uh as Fighters there's a side of promotion stop [ __ ] first of all Gus shut the [ __ ] up our our audio guys uh like can't stop laughing is that the facial his facial hair or is what he's saying bro that's bold of you to talk facial hair bro that's bold of you to I'm not Li you look dirty you look like Jeffrey done training right Jesus I train every day but anyway we know like there's two sides of of promotion as well as the actual athletic competition that is Combat Sports so there are times where I might play up a little bit like hey promoting but let him go let him go all right if you if all if you think I'm all promoting that I'll see you in the [ __ ] ring and I'll knock both you either of you out well um well Jake's a [ __ ] fat [ __ ] right now he weighs like 240 so I got I goty I gotta pick my words wisely like he's Jake's 240 I I know I know but like I'm not going to sit here and pick a fight against somebody that's 240 when I'm se's my weight class when I stopped you in one round like just like but when I was getting started out of come this is where I'm at since then I told him he could have somebody tag team I'm down I'm down to fight anybody in this [ __ ] room not one person in this room I'm the best part about this is like uh right after this we I think you're you're down to do like one round or three minutes right I mean I'd prefer 12 but we okay yeah 12 I mean that my biggest advantage in the ring ring is my cardio I do 12 12 okay so no I have a genuine question so five round I'm not I'm not one have I ever said I'm a UFC fighter no I'm just say we can box I'm just saying that's I'm used to five you want to do three we could do that aren't you trying to be a boxer with your [ __ ] Ryan Garcia call he would knock knock your [ __ ] ass out so quickly it wouldn't be close I'm one and0 pro boxing what are you actually I saw that video I saw video I'm also want to know thank you officially hey they count that's real commiss but uh I didn't mean I didn't mean to take I didn't mean to take over the pot I just wanted to a couple you definitely didn't yeah okay I try I'm trying to help you no we love you go warm up yeah yeah go warm up the bags don't warm up too much though don't get tired how much do you wa right now without Timberlands and jean shorts on high 120 low 13 no without lying though okay that [ __ ] is you think you got you got him one round I think I could beat him I think I can beat him I I think I could handicap myself to three just put on one glove I could do that what do you think actually happens now when you go downstairs and he gets in that ring like what's his plan that's what I don't get about him but that's why it's that's do me a favor that's why he's Cloud it up because love [ __ ] up [ __ ] he's going he's going to try to Yap he's going to try to talk please just go 100% yeah no actually actually please go 100% if he signs a consent form we'll have him no we've already got like multiple consent forms for better media with like death wavers [ __ ] no no no but he needs it he needs that I'll go like 40 no go like 75 Sean I'm I'm going to be honest bro don't even go 20% he's the nice [ __ ] bro don't do that bro you want him to go 100% no no to be honest but just like work with him and then just like maybe just just like a really good punching and then he'll give up 75% uh I'm nervous man I'm shaking for Derek yeah yeah that's good I understand that there a couple flinches if you Flinch hard enough the the wind coming off you will put him down let him walk you down and bait him boom sleeping what's your next upcoming fight a maraba jaaba and when is that uh not nothing yet I'm hoping for September maybe October maybe November maybe December I'm F ready to go baby what if it was next month I wouldn't be ready to go I like I like 10 to 12 weeks 10 to 12 he likes eight I mean I I normally do like 10 yeah just like but I've been super the first few weeks are [ __ ] pre-amps this Camp I'm channeling my Ryan Garcia would you ever do a Ryan Garcia regiment during Camp drink and smoke every night you do a little I I probably yeah I'm not actually doing that for the people out there he's locked in clocked in locked in locked in ready to go yeah May 20th we start but by the time the people see this it'll be uh June or something like that that is crazy you're fighting Mike that you fought Ben asran wrestler good good [ __ ] UFC was really good UF bit Tyron Woodley twice Anderson Silva knockout of the year with Nate Robinson can't forget about deji deji the the the goat do we say Gibb or is that like that's just crazy resume like literally [ __ ] C by way thank you Gib cuz we had a really good party after he knocked you the [ __ ] out who W we're skipping two professional boxers this always no no the recent ones this always happens I'm trying to just think cuz two cuz this is what everybody asked for this is what everybody asked for who who are the two professional boxers you fighted you got to name them Andre August and Ryan Borland go okay people don't people are like fight a pro boxer and then I do and then they're like that was boring as a man of combat he what were 10 and one nine and one nine and one what is your take on his [ __ ] all of his fights and who he's fighting in the competition dude I've been excited as [ __ ] since I started I remember you I remember the first time I watched was the Nate Robinson I watched that one at home and then uh I don't remember what it was after that but I remember watching Ben Asam in Atlanta I think that was the first time we actually met was right after the fight I think we hugged I was like y I picked you up you carried me back to the locker room that it was love at first sight that was crazy actually yeah actually I [ __ ] with him we became best friends like a couple days later you going to leave me hanging no no I would it's my eyebrow but uh yeah no I think he's obviously super skilled I think it's and I I it's inspired me even in the position I'm at UFC World Champ sexy you know what I mean like tall dark handsome TR inspired me just business the business uh side of things that you've done I've always thought putting on massive fight that's why I'm such a huge Conor fan cuz the pay-per-views he's done is so [ __ ] he's been fighting for four years and [ __ ] that he's been doing the massive fights the fights I get excited for there's a few UFC fights the high the big big fights that I get excited for but every time you fought even when uh Logan fought Floyd I was [ __ ] like excited like all fight week so i' I've been inspired from what you've done from a business side from the boxing side they even just start so not late but for a boxer but these boxers start when they're [ __ ] three four years old like Ryan and tank like they're young buck the Tik Tac I sent you of Devon Haney's debut fight yeah it's wild he was fighting a five foot Mexican in a in a bar was it Dante bro if I show you this [ __ ] oh no I did see that I did see that I did see that when you started even seeing that first video fighting Anderson Silva six fights in bro like do you know how insane that is he's one of the greatest correct me if I'm wrong UFC Strikers in history yeah 100% so does that make me one of the greatest UFC Strikers and one of the greatest wrestlers cuz wood but Ben ask was but Nate Diaz is ducking me in MMA oh am crazy I am weak that's a sick fight MMA I I wish it was that would happened right after the boxing same he's actually ducking it which is why it's crazy because he's not he's not in UFC no but we we upped it to 15 million damn that's crazy though that would be a I like Nate Diaz but that would be such a fun buildup he actually doesn't want to do it all Sean how do you genuinely Jake's not here it's me and you in a room actually how do you see that fight going for Jake what MMA him you're not here J for Nate in MMA keep it a bean God it's it's so hard to you're a big [ __ ] right now on what weight would it be5 185 I don't hate I don't I it's not a it's a winable fight for you I really do think that but Nate is so [ __ ] you would have to do what I did against aljo and morab do not let that [ __ ] grab you not that you can't wrestle cuz I know you can wrestle but once he starts grabbing you and doing Jiu-Jitsu if he gets on top his little he likes his little trips it would be hard for you to win I feel like if he if he started grappling just pure Jiu-Jitsu if it let's be real if it goes to the floor is he [ __ ] if he's on his back Nate's not like a super strong guy so if you learn how to like I mean I'm sure you know how to get up to a single legegg stuff like that but then you start getting your neck grabbed I don't know how much Jiu-Jitsu you know I mean Nate's a [ __ ] high Lev black belt um if you could keep it standing 100% there's winnable ways there if he if he went to the ground feel like he might be able to grab your neck no that that's exactly how I feel about it if I don't get guillotined yeah then I win the fight because even if he was on top take your back but even if he was on top of me I would just throw him off of me cuz he's also the weakest puncher I've ever fought like when he was hitting me I was I almost like started laughing I'm I'm not even saying this to talk [ __ ] out of everyone I've sparred in my whole entire life and everyone I fought his punches are even me we I don't think you ever landed a punch on me is that true well that's not true so I don't anyone no I'm literally not even talking [ __ ] which is why I think it's funny that he dropped Connor and [ __ ] cuz it's just like how Conor with like to the ground yeah like with a straight left hand yeah which is crazy like I I'm not just talking [ __ ] when I say that and I've told you I've literally told you this you told me this after the fight yeah I was like he is the weakest puncher I've ever fought in my life who's who's the weakest puncher you've ever you've ever come to face um there I mean there's been so many fights where I later didn't even get hit um uh does that like make you jaded at all when you get into a fight and you don't really get love that [ __ ] I prefer not to get hit at all but like if I was you and I wasn't get hit at all I'd probably work less no no no no I I know I don't get hit because I work that hard so if I didn't work hard I know I'd probably get hit I'm just a lazy [ __ ] so so here you are on top of the world we're launching [ __ ] W going to be a billion dollar business [ __ ] you I always forget uh UFC champ accomplishing all your goals what do you want next uh what are what is the threeyear fiveyear for Sean I I truly do want to get a boxing fight I'm not I'm not super set on that to where like I'm like going to be [ __ ] if it doesn't happen I do think it'll be interesting especially if I go out there knock morab out Ryan does his thing I think there's a [ __ ] sweet fight there if it doesn't happen not that worried about it want to go out there beat morab I'd like to you know if Max Max and Elia fight I would like to fight go move up to 45 fight the winner of that um you know maybe have three to five maybe have a few more kids definitely want another little baby I love kids my fite pump him out shout out to Danny who's your top pick in a boxing fight though if you if you could choose your Ryan now was like the I mean what he after dvon Beat Ryan I was like javante then Ryan goes out there does his thing really though I think Dante do you is that is that not a big [ __ ] leap Ryan like you said before he's been doing this his whole life one thing that's been proven is that the crossover it's it's not a good return Fury he did his thing okay the excep is the exception we've seen it with okay but then Anthony Joshua put his ass t was crazy super night night he was I'm I'm here for big fights like I wanted to get into the UFC and I wanted to make big fights watching Conor versus Floyd I'm like that [ __ ] happened really happened hey you versus Derek that could be as big as Connor in Floyd but no but I I think the craziest [ __ ] about Conor versus Floyd is that overall it was a W for everyone involved so there's certain fights where it just like doesn't matter what happens that's the world we live in yeah I mean UFC told me they said if the if the fight's big enough and it'll make the UFC money they'll do it what means more to you your your your record being pre or the amount of money you're making all right let me ask you something it's about to get real J's drunk Jasper's drunk as [ __ ] y record or money [ __ ] it depends the Gap like like the gap of money if it's like an extra 10 15 20 million but I lose a couple important fights probably not you just take like 150 million I'll be like like [ __ ] my record baby yeah it depends on the gap of money Jake Paul is not here right now just like a Mayweather Conor McGregor you taking that fight ver Jake yeah no he's my buddy I could I mean I don't I don't even no I no funny no there's you know what's funny is always in my Snapchat story once once a day pretty much someone says we knock out Jake Paul like there's every sing all the time for so long people just want to see me get [ __ ] is good though that's like the thing yeah but I'm sensitive it is funny though people [ __ ] love to hate confidence the craziest thing though actually about both of you like I met you very recently like I didn't realize you're as like normal as you are I don't know why I thought you violent like you guys are both like very goofy mellow and stupid and c and and awesome it's like the greatest thing ever like I couldn't believe when I met you you're like one of us like yeah I wouldn't think you're a [ __ ] yeah one of the coolest people in the world for sure yeah but not a lot of people uh can like I don't know we have like a weird it's hard toes Meat Heads I'm like this the this my dog I think it's a little bit of dark humor too it's like some [ __ ] up [ __ ] that we say off camera [ __ ] sometimes but I think it's like there's a certain yeah like that's how my whole group is back home it's like we all just we're all just kind of [ __ ] dumb I'm smart but like they're dumb well someone commented like yo Jake Paul's the dumbest genius in the world and I was just like I say that [ __ ] all the time you wed up the other day and I was like this is the most genius dumbass in the world no jokes Hey Brother chill buddy trying to get me cancelled no what how old are you 23 are you really yeah no you're not he's not is he what do you think think what did you think Oh no you're 267 27 what did you think he was I thought he was older I thought he was like 27 26 yeah a niggaer mature was that ladies you got a boo you got a girl you just be slanging she timeout right now I don't really talk about she don't time out it's a little tricky she not taking care of herself what do you guys think about Tom Brady R you watch it yeah they kept comp panning to you every 5 Seconds bro I swear there's a huge camer sitting there the whole time but it's cool to see Netflix going hard like that cuz they went hard they swing that meat around huha yeah let's pivot yeah just sorry about him I'm drunk man not yeah but but it was it was great it wasar they should have got rid of most of the football players going up there yeah there's a couple ones Ben afflac is that who that was on there that was wild that was so weird that was so weird it was cool to see how [ __ ] less sensitive people are becoming I feel like feel like it's recently like there's a big push back I think people got sick of it we went super super super PC for a long time people were like wait a second we like being able to say what we want to say I saw kill Tony say oh type of crazy [ __ ] on there that watch every [ __ ] Monday you were on kill Tony yeah how old are you actually buddy I'm a comedian Budd full time no yeah I was on that I was nervous as hell though I was like just being it's a live I do podcast once a week like me and Tim do our podcast every [ __ ] week but to be there in front of an audience live it's weird it's a different kind of well so you say Tim but let's let's talk about actually the fact that you get trained by by one of the greatest boxers of all time it's really that's something what's happened like that's crazy working with Canelo as your as your coach that's what I'm saying people don't going to be Ryan but like yeah that is true I never even thought about that for did you even know that this guy proba even know that that orange [ __ ] is nice wait will I get cancelled by the ginger community no you're black oh no my dad my dad's Ginger and I'm I'm like this [ __ ] is ginger bro he be shaving he be shaving his beard and I zoom in zoom in it's it's slightly orange so I'm a quarter ginger on South Park they made fun of Gingers and that [ __ ] made the news I [ __ ] with the ginger people but like y'all [ __ ] you like redhead girls oh yeah was Super Soaker but anyway yeah like y'all [ __ ] is orange and that's okay but back to you one of y'all that's not drunk I got a question cuz this guy clipped out a lot did Tim actually like you guys about him like saying to fight that was yeah that was real Tim always be talking [ __ ] to the like he's been doing that for so long so what happened he just talk I mean he just he Alo the knee's coming Alo you got to shoot Alo watch out for this like he's been saying that since I've been in the UFC like my debut vers terion where he was talking [ __ ] to terion too and uh he just does it every fight but this happened to just be crazy timing to like Tim you got Tim like alre you got to go and like literally he he like that's when he threw that left hand or whatever stepped into Southpaw and uh or stepped into Orthodox and got dropped it was it was funny the timing because he's like Al you got to go I don't I truly don't think that's why that's not why Alo went I bet you could I bet Alo didn't even hear that but Tim's always chirping and stuff but people on the internet are [ __ ] mad about that a lot of them actually like it I'll say majority of people are thinking that's the funniest [ __ ] ever there's a couple [ __ ] that are like you should be banned think it's a fight would you run the alra fight back or one and done never I like that why would I yeah am I supposed to top that you know what I'm saying I got love for Alo we had him on the show and he he seems like a good dude I actually don't mind Alo I does that ever happen where like you'll have a personal relationship with someone personal runin with them and it's all great but then now all of a sudden you have to fight each other I've never had I've not of running with someone that's been like uh more than like I've ran into aljo morab at the UFC I'm like hey what's up talk to him a little bit you know nothing no ill will um but I haven't had like a run with someone I actually lik them mhm and then at the fight them so you're not friends with any any other UFC fighters oh I have a there's there's a couple guys in my in my weight class that I train with at the lab that are like climbing the r uh ladders what happened with uh the 125 pounder I I don't even know his name and I'm not I'm just not like yeah what's his name I Alexander pania bro this story is actually kind of funny so 2016 I think it was it was like 3 and0 4 and0 and I was still fighting at like I fought at 125 not too long before that I fought at like 130 which is in a weight class was like so I wasn't like a 155 like I am now I was probably like 14 back then and uh Henry cejudo comes in I'm three or four and0 at the point at this point it comes in with this kid Alexander PTO just won The Ultimate Fighter I think he's got his UFC debut or it's his second UFC fight he's a couple weeks out from his fight I'm [ __ ] the night before me and Tim ripping bongs like hanging out being goofballs and [ __ ] so the next morning so we brought him in for sparring hry sudo brings in Alexander you're 4-0 he's King [ __ ] he he's just won The Ultimate Fighter and so they write the names on on the board who who you're sparring I'm like oh [ __ ] I got Alexander Pantoja versus me for one round one round he has three rounds so you write one one name then usually you you spar with one guy then they go out you spar with a fresh guy they go out spar with the fresh guy that's usually how it works so my name was just up there for one round that's it we Spar one round I didn't know anything about him cuz I I didn't really watch it like that 25 I don't really watch 25ers like that but somebody's like oh [ __ ] that's he a black belt he just won The Ultimate Fighter I was like oh [ __ ] I got to [ __ ] Focus up here first round boom Dro him with a liver kick and I wasn't going to post I record all my rounds I have so many sparring rounds like I wasn't going to post it was and for some reason I don't know why he would talk [ __ ] and bring it up cuz I literally I don't know you know know I don't know if you know how it works but you finish a guy the fight's over right no no did he um so I finished him the first round he hit him boom with the liver I posted the video yesterday and I've had it for a long time I didn't want to post it CU you don't post sparring like that but he just kept bringing it up so boom finished him first round um then uh after the first round round I go to walk out and Henry's over there crying box of Kleenex just like [ __ ] wiping his tears crying we want you for a second round so mad that this little like I was nobody just finished his dude he's in the UFC he's supposed to be the man finish him in the first round so Henry's crying saying he wants another round um so I piece him up again in the second round and I'm I'm dying at this point my lungs are burning I'm not in shape for fight I I'm nowhere near in Camp for a fight and I my lungs are hurting and uh Henry again crying blowing his nose and like I want you for a third and Benson comes in Benson Henderson absolute Legend comes in and was yelling cuz that's his it was the his gym the MMA lab we don't let people come in our gym and make us tired and blah blah blah and I'm [ __ ] just just huffing and puffing I just got done work in this dude for 10 minutes finished him in the first round did I say that liver kick um we'll put the footage I have the foot yeah it's right there insert the footage so third round come out boom piece him up again and he's so I don't know why he keeps bringing up this bringing this up in the media I think it's because people ask him but I don't know why he doesn't just say yeah yeah no no I don't want to talk about it he keeps saying like he's like oh I got in I found his range and [ __ ] I'm like bro you you stopped him in one round stopped him in round one and let him live and continue to fight for round two these delusional uh like wild people are weirdos but the reason I posted cuz he kept bringing it up exactly wait so is he the champ now at 125 yeah okay but why does he still want to talk [ __ ] to you if you got [ __ ] up that's what I'm saying I don't know either either you drop to 125 and get that no I can't drop to 125 that's too much now you're a thick [ __ ] I am a thick but yeah I SP I think it's important for up and cominging Spar uh fighters to record their rounds and watch their rounds not for that this reason you know but just to I've improve so much watching my sparring y I have thousands of rounds maybe not thousands hundreds of rounds from 10 years ago on my on my computer of uh it's like NFL team is watching footage the time [ __ ] 100% got to watch that [ __ ] that's I I have every single round recorded and and again I I don't post sparring either exactly you know put in a highlight video make a vlog boom we're sparring people but it's never like [ __ ] up your guy yeah exactly but Mike Perry honestly like what he's been doing is pretty Fu he went to Bare knuckle that [ __ ] just meant for him bare knuckle fighting it's crazy different going crazy he's doing good he's [ __ ] undefeated over there he's beating some really good guys stay over here [ __ ] [ __ ] only place that you should be getting tickets from is game time.co it's it's the only place I go it is the only place you can possibly go they have 110% price match guarantee that's what we use to get our tickets for the NBA Finals you can get $20 off your first order go to gametime.co JJ a $20 off your first order they're doing a deal specifically for y'all and you could see where your tickets are before you buy them seeing the seats they have all of the these great policies last 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platform there is Mike Paul versus Jake Tyson here's my official prediction tell us and even if even if it's against me like it's not it's not I do think you're going to beat Mike Tyson uh it's crazy that I even saying that out loud right now cuz you're fighting Mike Tyson it's [ __ ] crazy even just when we were walking down the the street today people all genders all ages knew you were fighting Mike Tyson it's such a massive fights live on Netflix which is [ __ ] crazy it's in a stadium which is [ __ ] crazy it is crazy I believe in you I see what you I see what you're doing I see you know that you believe in yourself Mike Tyson is uh hasn't fought in however long it's been so for him to just come up and get a fight be I I'm sure is going to be in as good a shape as he possibly could be in but it's just you know it's it's it's it's not his time right now I love Mike Tyson I never actually met him but I love Mike Tyson I do think Jake's gonna get the job done and I do think eight rounds eight two-minute rounds eight two-minute rounds I believe I believe you could put them away in the later rounds you know five six seven eight I do think you could put it put him down which is crazy to even [ __ ] think you rap yeah that's fire I'm just lazy and inconsistent that's not a w no that sh it is not you start using Brandon yell at him every day but cuz you can actually spit that's fire no but but people know him now from like podcasting they don't know he's a rapper and hurts his soul J sick name Lil jizz what J JZ that's good that's good you should switch your [ __ ] I switch my [ __ ] from come Master to kill Jas bro honestly though that's I think singing rapping spitting is one of the things that if I could switch talents be doing something like that that's good or twerking I ain't going to lie you shook that [ __ ] earlier I got a I got a thing on me you that [ __ ] wiggle a little bit let's let's pivot though cuz yep hit a pivot uh yeah do we have a speaker should we play Jasper's new song or something you got a new one I thought you were lazy some new [ __ ] go ahead play on your phone just put it in the speaker put it in the mic too this the [ __ ] I'm dropping when I'm Indie that sound decent I'm not rapping either I'm yapping that's not going to get you drunk yo I made this beat that's crazy I like the way you look I won't lie you got something I need you my with a fly girl like you doing with no guy a little sh don't really go outside I'm not crazy right place and right time you all smiles and pretty light brown [Music] [Music] like that better if I forget you but I just can't time saying do better and I'm sure you can find that guy that's worth all right cut it cut it cut it that's that's enough that's enough that's enough that's enough for real can't give the whole thing it's not out yet yeah hey good [ __ ] that's fire I'll be rapping though but that's some pop [ __ ] just cuz I can do it so why are you consistent cuz I'm lazy and jaded and and spoiled yeah it's unfortunate maam shout out to the homies for a lot of talented people out there that just are yeah don't smoke crack yo also there there is a parallel there don't do don't do that there's a parallel with the same thing he's talking about I think Fighters probably where it's like you could have all the talent in the world he's got that's why I get so [ __ ] mad at him it's cuz he has all the talent in the world really I get more pissed off than he gets and he could be a superstar but he just is lazy he doesn't put the work in he's not he's not strategic and it is hard when you got when you live in a crib in Puerto Rico right you got chefs and [ __ ] and you fly private with me yeah that's it that's it bro that's it you got to you got get paychecks and [ __ ] y'all got to evict me that's not a bad idea honestly I think we talked about it let's make I was I'm H we had a conversation but I just can't I can't because I love you so much I need you but then I'll probably be more like need you y yeah I guarante and then we you would still have to like fly in once a week to to do the pods and it would be resentment and then I I'll go out like and I'll try to start shooting at y'all oh my God I guarantee I would be in the position I'm in if I if I had money and like had already made it like financially had [ __ ] I wouldn't have made it that's why people think I'm crazy but CC the other side of it is like boom right so I'm from com California same hey shout out my [ __ ] yeah man I was homeless for the first half of my life mom's a drug addict dad's a gang member I've never had anything in my life right and my whole life has been music I dropped out in ninth grade I was like I'm going to make music my dad kicks me out he's like you can't live under this roof like be more like your brothers my brothers are [ __ ] star students one got a full ride scholarship loser all all type of [ __ ] nerd ass [ __ ] all those [ __ ] are fat and unemploy now one dropped out of school a full rise scholarship and is just sitting at home right so boom from having nothing to like me saying I'm going to risk everything that I have in my life to become a music artist and it works I get to a certain place and I'm like damn I did exactly I hit a ceiling right so it's like now I had to recalibrate he got a big record deal and then and then like use I crashed out and became a m addict for four four days a week for 30 like 90 days oh it's not bad but then I moved cuz my homeboy was like you need to move and I was like nah [ __ ] that I made a million I ain't going to move I'm going to maintain this lifestyle I'm a junkie but I'm rich yep I crashed out and was like yeah I need to move lost 60 lbs went to Puerto Rico locked in recalibrated and now I'm ready to be but that's that's here's the problem we run into now is that you've recalibrated and now it's still it's been 6 months the album's supposed to be 6 months ago and we're still waiting for the album that's the problem and that's what you got to work on never too late though let's start it let's get because you're vitamin deficient right yeah yeah cuz like a lot of people can't think straight when they're vitamin deficient and all that a week ago kind of elaborated on that so yeah this isn't therapy um I got shout out Suzie right right huh Susie but she's hot is she not you think my therapist you guys got the same one I could pee and vape on this podcast I got to go pee go pee I could pee yeah I mean I think we I think we end the episode because uh let's wrap it up you can get W available at Walmart anyway if you walk into Walmart whether you with your mom your daddy you by yourself you go in that [ __ ] men body care aisle you buy that and comment down below what you thought of the episode for um us being brain fried over and uh jper but Buzz also comment cuz this coming out when the product releases comment your favorite scent and sent $10,000 right no I'm send you 1,000 I ain't got 10,000 for you but I'll send you 1,000 I'll send someone 10,000 he'll send you 10,000 I'll send you a th000 and I'm going through the comments for sure anyway good luck Charlie and if you got a test soon good luck on that [ __ ] that's what we [Music] do what are those 8 O gloves I want you to know they were talking up there he ain't going easy so be ready all right legit be ready buddy I'm using these bags don't show Too Much don't show we're boxing we're boxing I don't I do that on accident sometimes just know that that might come up just keep your hands up I'm just saying I might throw that up I haven't knocked someone out in a while just cuz my last fight didn't go off it went off five rounds I've been like craving just putting someone's lights out lately it's weird versus your boy better Derek I I hope Sean isn't nice and just [ __ ] him up that's your that's your trainee [ __ ] D all righty folks welcome to your main event of the evening starting out first in the loser corner you have better day with a record of no wins no losses I beat ste's [ __ ] out no anything he is 5'7 120 lbs lost in the mile to better JoJo but he's still delusional in his fighting career and to my left in the winning Corner sponsored by W sugar sha Ali The Undefeated UFC champion of the world it's time to fight bring it to the center we already spoke about the rules in the locker room beforehand give me your glove give me your hand touch gloves I want a clean fair fight no no hits below the waist back to your Corners time you ready judge you ready and fight [Music] [Applause] I'm out of balance or something oh do Dodge that [ __ ] hold on hold on hold on hold [ __ ] come on come on just oh my God one back of the head no no no back of the head four ref didn't see it five six me in the eyes Walk This Way Walk This Way for me he's running Walk This Way for me my car run all right and we're in in that right that's called all right time time time one two that was a that was a slip four up six bro Rizo what the [ __ ] are you doing all right get up SLP all right come on time in come on got come on got you [ __ ] black I'm going to I need to work I need to see some work black UT D somebody said 10 seconds like 8 seconds ago all right great back to your corner back to your corner back to your corner stay in there you're doing good right now this feel good I feel good do you see that one I landed clean on his face I think we all terrible shut the [ __ ] up for once in your [ __ ] life shut the [ __ ] up Sean's doing half punches on him shut up I'll act like uh no don't act like bro I'm just I'm putting in work all right how this how you when you [ __ ] beat the old wash UFC fighters everybody comments you're fighting old was UFC fighters what do you think 10s I think they're right in in round two round two round two oh got him [ __ ] oh [Music] [ __ ] hey put that hey that that's a that's going to be a 10 count can't get me by the that's going to be a 10 count that's going to be a 10 count next time back in the just there going to be a 10 count next time get in there give me real quick get him with some you thank you perfect okay BL I'm going to need to see some more one two back to your corner white Corner neutral Corner 5 6 seven eight n look at me thank you bro come on you want to fight do you want to fight when I do you want to fight yes yeah wait wait time back in wake up time time time time time I promise okay it's to the floor the rules of transfer to MMA tap tap tap he's St he's T he's ta all right I block out all right you're good to go wait wait the fight was over get the [ __ ] out of the ring oh it's over it's over it's over it's over go you got it's over it's over it's over [Music]	think people got sick of it we went super super super PC for a long time people were like wait a second we like being able to say what we want to say I saw kill Tony say oh type of crazy [ __ ] on there that watch every [ __ ] Monday you were on kill Tony yeah how old are you actually buddy I'm a comedian Budd full time no yeah I was on that I was nervous as hell though I was like just being it's a live I do podcast once a week like me and Tim do our podcast every [ __ ] week but to be there in front of an audience live it's weird it's a different kind of well so you say Tim but let's let's talk about actually the fact that you get trained by by one of the greatest boxers of all time it's really that's something what's happened like that's crazy working with Canelo as your as your coach that's what I'm saying people don't going to be Ryan but like yeah that is true I never even thought about that for did you even know that this guy proba even know that that orange [ __ ] is nice wait will I get cancelled by the ginger community no you're black oh no my dad my dad's Ginger and I'm I'm like this [ __ ] is ginger bro he be shaving he be shaving his beard	6	4	2	think people got sick of it we went super super super PC for a long time people 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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXPZ1KzdpsY	4,103	mXPZ1KzdpsY	2024-06-20 00:00:00	well well well ladies and gentlemen do we have a special episode for you today none other than sugar Shan om Ali the current UFC bantamweight champion a legend in his own right this episode was off the cusp we were a little turned up Jasper was really really drunk so we weren't really prepared for this at all the conversations definitely got wild and obviously as you guys have seen over maybe the past week or so we launched a new company called w am men's carine in Walmart this company is so near and dear to my heart and I partnered with Shawn to bring this Vision to life amongst other celebrities artists and athletes that we are announcing over the next couple of weeks here get your w at Walmart it is very very very very very good stuff and yes you heard the news I am fighting Mike Perry on July 20th it is going down I'm still fighting Mike Tyson November 15th that is happening but I'm staying active knocking out Mike Perry on July 20th and I'm excited for y'all to listen to this episode and he the vision of w how it all came together and how Shawn got involved and then everything to do with Shawn's career this podcast has been a long time coming but prepare yourself for some idiocracy per usual uh this is [ __ ] with Jake Paul we have a secret handshake check it out AC let me get that stop playing mean yeah we created that because we actually have so many things to get into here this has been a long time coming Jasper did bring up something and the reason W was created was because the other products in the category had harmful dyes parabens sulfates hormone disruptors and so we wanted to create the better for you vitamin infused product and and Sean's a co-owner just signed today yesterday for the show but we we'll get into all of that we we've been you know bringing sea on for like we've been talking for like a month and a half yes sir yes sir um it is currently May we've been doing a lot of shoots this podcast will probably come out at post W launch you can get I'm so drunk I'm sorry y'all you can get it in uh Walmart every Walmart you in Paca Walmart get it in you in Pensacola it's in Walmart in Kentucky Walmart Walmart so basically uh we we brought in the greatest people in the world to help build W and Sean is one of those people but dialing everything back we will get into the company the body washes how this all came about but uh we've been wanting to do this podcast and thanks for joining us BR hey guys hey thanks for joining us right did you uh yeah I did you sh for an hour bro did you did you do do we know do we set the stage of the day and the fact that Jasper's slash right now okay cool y drunk is a [ __ ] y like double drunk yep yep yep you drunk yeah all that so um but just winding everything back uh I think we've been friends for a long time in fact you were the first guest on this show oh [ __ ] crazy Zoom crazy that's right that's right that's right the first ever episode you zoomed in and that's crazy we're thankful we're thankful for our friendship and it's pretty cool that now we're here again today uh getting less views than before and that's fire that's it congratulations less views we're not we're not it was it was a joke it was a joke if you watching this please like and comment cuz we falling off right now but man by the time this comes out you're going to be getting ready for me RAB how do you say his name I don't remember morab is iTab or or I don't know me that's got to be it me but you got to say it with the emphasis look meab mirab meab meab there you go there you go so yeah I should be getting ready hopefully I ain't got nothing scheduled hopefully uh you know Uncle Dana will call me say hey buddy you want to fight in in here and there and there and then I'm d b boom and that that's how that works what's up with everybody on your body though everybody talking [ __ ] even people youat I wanted to bring up yeah and he's like saying like he's trying to post about you even yesterday it is weird but when you concuss someone you know what I just say they don't think as well as they used to so I think he's still concussed and he's a little confused because he's talking [ __ ] still he not in his right mind because I can just throw up another post go because it's a throwback Thursday it's a throwback Friday do you think do you think people don't respect you enough cuz I I see that as your friend an unbiased like they just see social media and podcasts and the the hair and stuff like that and then they just sh week but I [ __ ] with you I appr that um I don't think it is well you can't you know I think it's fine I think you're jealous I ain't going to lie I got some inches under here let's smell that hair you can smell my [ __ ] must who I do think I feel a little bit disrespected as the champ but I think that last fight against Che kind of you know shut a little bit of people up canny go five rounds Cheeto beat me before the Alo fight um shut a lot of people up canny grapple didn't have to Grapple cuz he couldn't take me down yeah Alo couldn't take you down I think that was the biggest thing where they were like yo that's his weakness like yeah wrestle him down and then he just proved everyone wrong that's what's so interesting about this morab fight is he's supposedly well he is he's [ __ ] good at wrestling he's really really good at wrestling he's boring as [ __ ] and no one will there won't be one comment saying yeah right he's actually kind of fun not one person I'm com won I'm com you can I ask you something would you put yourself in your own top five Strikers in the UFC oh I'm yeah yo easily who's your Mount Rushmore strikker well I I mean I would unbiasedly I would put him as number one because adna is in like top three but he also like got beat by put that [ __ ] down boy he did uh bro I'm up there I'm up there Max is really good Max super his striking that's a good top five there that's four me Max Elia adaga uh I'm sure I'm missing some your with a one would it be that's that's a minus one Mount rmore is four yeah but I only got four but if you throw the five in it's a plus one isn't there only four yeah but but you ready to throw the five up I'm four all right that's my more but yeah once again uh this is a [ __ ] ass podcast so we apologize hey but something something you just touched on you talked about Fighters being fun and interesting how much and you're you're a superstar how much of you being a superstar how much of any fighter being a superstar comes down to them being fun and interesting as you are and how much of it comes down to their actual fighting good question uh well who's a super who who obviously Connor comes to mind I think he's he's a character he's fun he's interesting who else comes to mind is like a superstar I would say Izzy gives that off I think he's an interesting guy other than that there's not like a ton of fun like Ryan Garcia is doing a really good job right now of being [ __ ] interesting being a character uh I think that's fentel I think it's drugs as well I wouldn't deny that but he's still making people interested in Ryan versus Devon Haney was an interesting fight not because Devon Haney that dude's boring as [ __ ] you think he did them roids no I don't think Ryan did I think Devon needs to take that L he being a [ __ ] about I think the craziest [ __ ] you said to me and like I don't even know if we want to put this in there or bring it up but we we can always remove it but uh because of your your situation with the ostarine and you said to me like and it I like fully felt your energy you're like I swear on my daughter's life I never did that and you got popped for it yeah same thing happened uh to Ryan right now he popped for aost the low super low level a some [ __ ] like a trillionth of a gr the same thing happened to me uh so when that came out with Ryan like I truly truly didn't believe he took anything because it was the same [ __ ] and it happens to a lot of [ __ ] ostarine happens to how does that happen it's called the tainted supplement so if you're taking anything that has protein in it that's not third party tested uh could not just protein any kind of supplement that's not third party tested it's either NSF or there's a bunch of different third party tests but if you're not if you're taking something that doesn't have that there's chances there could be something in it but austram people pop for that all the time my case was not that big of a deal cuz I wasn't as huge of a star as I am now but it still was like a big deal because of my name the reason it's going so crazy right now is because Ryan G is a superstar so people are freaking out but it happens to a lot of athletes I just before we move past it I just on that Superstar topic how is that is that Superstar factor that that someone like you has someone like Ryan has someone like Connor has is it something you're born with or is it is it a practice is it something you can learn and do you sit back and like think like oh how can I go viral today how can I I think it's both I think you have to want to be a superstar there's some guys in the UFC like I want to make more money I want this I want that but they don't really want to be a superstar you you got to want it you got to you got to have some kind of vision a long time before well and and also like who you are as a person you have to have that like Fire Within still though like before you got into want famous I want to be in the NFL I want to be NBA I wanted to be a [ __ ] athlete when I was young was instilled I was just for whatever reason I wanted to make it when I was young I'm from H in Montana like small ass can I ask you something what's your opinion on like the take b nickel takes like where he's like super friendly and humble and like I think he's a sweet ass [ __ ] they love him but like bro that [ __ ] pisses me off I think that [ __ ] is cool too n like you're a hum like [ __ ] talk your [ __ ] you're what 670 like bro talk your [ __ ] like it it kind of bores me no I get yeah I mean that's that's some people's opinion is like he's too nice too humble too that but he's being himself um but he's also super young in the sport I think he and he's still pretty what is he 28 you're in a sport of War if I was playing like [ __ ] Cricket I would be like yeah like but that's that's the thing is for for for a character like him what it seems like is that's what he's in is the sport of war and that's it he's not in the sport of entertainment he's a nice ass sweetheart get there is some people that that understand both sides of things but I also have respect for and I see when someone's that's strictly in the sport of if I play chess with you I'm going to be like good game and I'm going to shake your hand I talk [ __ ] be F ass to a PO it I'm going to be like [ __ ] you you need to get better at whatever you're doing dial dialing it back a little bit um to the aost stream thing I think it's like what do you think about Conor tweeting still at like 3:00 a.m. like coked out he he he he sent shots at me and Ryan talking [ __ ] but it's it's crazy coming from Connor who literally got out of the usada pool to do steroid like legit steroids so it's kind of wild and I was the biggest Connor fan for a long time in the last couple weeks ever since he sent that wasn't even a couple weeks ago probably a week ago I've been trying to hate him I've been trying to be like [ __ ] you Connor but I can't I love Connor I it's like I am excited for his fight coming up I'm excited I want you know I'm all about it what's the fight is it Chandler Chandler in June it's going to be big they just been trying to do it for a long time so I didn't know if it still still I think officially I think it's I think I think the craziest part about it is what like eight weeks before a fight that he's still like coked and drunk out of his mind who you got though who that's a good it is crazy that he still like he tweeted that deleted like 20 minutes later he was definitely [ __ ] up on well that's what I was going to say we can't just Grace past that do you is that that's a that's a bold thing to say do you you know he's on coke is that a is that are you [ __ ] gills I don't know anything but I know for certain that he's brother like look at the time of the tweets and look at what he's saying like also and he's like known for this simar tweets yeah yeah I don't know just manic brother I think he is I do think Ryan is I think he when he said he was playing into it a little bit I I think he's kind of using that I think he's [ __ ] crazy what what what would happen if you and Ryan boxed that's I mean there's only one way to find out he has a lot better chances of beating me in a boxing match than he does in a real fight keep up I do I I [ __ ] I truly believe in myself that's how I got to the [ __ ] position I'm in right now I can box I can throw hands um I don't think it'd be easy by any means I do think it's possible I beat him I'm not saying my my odds are great but I do believe I could beat Ryan Bo if there was anybody you could box for your first boxing match debut who are you Bo give an easy fight give me Deon Haney you give [Laughter] me honest answer uh I mean if we're I I would say Floyd if I Pi if I could sit here and pick who I box first boxing fight I pick Floyd because it would be the biggest most crazy most legendary fight maybe not most legendary some people for me okay but outside of that on a skill based level oh I I could hang with some good [ __ ] pro boxers I'm undefeated in boxing you think you think if you and uh ilot boxed that' be ilot is very very [ __ ] skilled boxing that's an interesting question so who what what professional boxer would you equate your PA Mike Tyson I know of Devon Haney now because Ryan Garcia beat him uh dvon Davis he's really short I know him um maybe smacking [ __ ] up though he does he that little guy he can't he can't ride roll coasters though that is true so there's a there's a tradeoff like Cruz fight he was riding a roller coaster no like I'm talking about like at the fair oh no you know like there there's a trade-off in life you know where things get weird it's like it's like yo he's really good but you can't even just hit Dante fan brother can't even ride the top not a Dante fan that's not what I'm wait what did what did I say to say I'm not a you didn't say I mean I don't think he knows that it's a short joke I don't think he picked up on you want me tell him I was joking shut the [ __ ] up I get I say that was a joke I'm what are you trying to say I'm but are you trying to insinuate that I'm short no honestly you're probably what five you're 5'9 you're like 5' seven and a half stop doing stop doing it stop doing that cuz [ __ ] is going to see this and be like he's 5'6 actually if you watching this and you think I'm 5'6 and you want to try me in person please any [ __ ] who see me out I'm punching your [ __ ] out I'm like 5'9 on a good day when when I'm lying to women I'm 5'10 for sure who's gonna ID me I'm wearing forces I'm a [ __ ] liar all right so now for the truth jakee he's like what like he's 5 No but don't do that bro all right all right we won't we'll cut that out like yeah n don't cut it out n don't see me and see these but you know dvon is 5'5 legit that's cool bro I know but is that not short just be honest is that five five short for a grown man for a grown man is that short you can be a fan I'm not I'm a fan of javante and he's five that's a little little bro all right the joke went over his head anyways so the short joke [ __ ] is trying to play me like I'm short no no no we're we're not we're not you're [ __ ] tall all right let's pivot yeah so um SI yeah sh shout out to the shout out to the pivot but but yeah like Jasper's a little riled up things are on edge he's a little he's a little turned up it's been a long day a long two days we've been shooting uh because we have a new [ __ ] company did we say we talk about that yet I we said in the beginning raise your arms up [ __ ] goed [ __ ] goed shout out to w a fun few days it's been a fun few days days you're going to see the content rolling out um but you speaking of but Ruby Rose did a good job oh my God I wanted to bite that M listen anyway if you're near wmart if you're watching this right now I don't give a [ __ ] what you're doing you could be taking care of your kid you could be taking care of your elderly parents [ __ ] them go to Walmart June 1st Nationwide I don't care if you in Pensacola you in Massachusetts all in places that sound [ __ ] stupid there's a Walmart there and you go there it's a better for you product vitamin ifuse number [ __ ] one yeah no basically I I think dialing back like the business story of it because you're also like a very smart businessman intellectual doing everything you do in and outside of the Ring which a lot of people don't have which contributes to you being uh the biggest in my opinion the biggest UFC star um but yeah we we basically I guess this is the podcast where we tell people where W came from but um we started building this company like a year and a half ago and really saw how all these other companies like as we move into better for you products and less harmful products we saw how the leaders in the space didn't have the best formulas didn't have the best manufacturing had all of these harmful substances in it and we're also brands from when I was like 9 years old I don't want to list names but they're still like having all the Shelf space in stores and I was just like this is wild like this is boring this is lame the the the we need something new we need something that's better uh males have vitamin uh deficiencies like crazy especially with magnesium Jasper just can't get enough of it uh especially with magnesium um and biotin is in the body wash uh vitamin E one two of the best vitamins for your skin and hair um but as The Story Goes long story short we we come up with this brand that represents so many things um but I think winning in everyday life whether you're the valedictorian whether you are the high school jock whether you're philanthropist now you have a product that you can embody and wear every single day that's increasing your vitamin intake that is less harmful to you that's where the idea came from and just being the winning formula in category uh went to Walmart pitched them the whole idea they [ __ ] loved it helped us build the brand even and come up with the scent profiles and all the things that are the the most popular um and this has been something I've wanted to do for so long we had to bring in the best people to be a part of it the winners in their category and that's number one Numero Uno sha Ali here um and he instantly saw the vision and already in the past couple of days it's been like super fun filming all the content behind yeah I was pumped when you [ __ ] called me appreciate you thinking of me and uh excited to help grow this business [ __ ] it's needed it's needed we're going to take over the whole bathroom you know tooed if you [ __ ] with the dogs and cows and chickens dog in you I know what I got that dog in me and I use it so be dog free baby am I missing anything with that no I think that was great the one the one thing I would touch on and you did in a way but it's it is body wash it is body spray it is deodorant but it also is there's an ethos that stands behind this brand which is the ethos that you stand for and it's the ethos that you stand for and the ethos that you stand for and the one that I stand for if I say ethos again I'm GNA start stumbling over my words but it's it's it's like you said it it doesn't the winners in life aren't just you you're on a big stage in life you're you're you're crushing it in every aspect financially you're a star you're leading your sport that's awesome on every [ __ ] level it's it's an encouragement to to young men all around the world to [ __ ] get up off their ass and get sh it don't matter if you score high on a test you whatever the [ __ ] it is that you do well maybe not so it matters what the [ __ ] you do but it also doesn't matter what the [ __ ] you do anybody is a winner as long as you put in the work and you have the will to win and I love it I I would say that's wrong I would say that not anybody is a winner and I think that's something that the brand also stands for like you really got to win you got to as you have the will to win no I'm just saying I think that's an important point cuz we live in a world today where a lot of people think everybody can be a winner that's not true if you Los you might be a loser and if you're a loser the good news is there's a hidden l in the logo actually we'll trace it for you with our graphic design team there's a hidden l in the logo because and I I I wanted to make sure that was was a thing because the biggest loss of my life turned out to be the biggest W in my life and I always had the saying like two L's make a w and when I lost to Tommy Fury it was embarrassing all these things but I realized I wasn't focused I wasn't as locked in as I could be the team around me from a boxing standpoint wasn't good I was having personal issues with relationships and all of these things that I had to shed and grow from and I grew into this new and completely different person but I wouldn't have done that if I didn't lose on the biggest stage possible and I think that was part of the ethos ethos ethos ethos of the brand was to encourage people that in their lowest moments to turn those into into their biggest W's eventually when Jake just said that the biggest loss of his life ended up being the biggest W of his life you said same yeah yeah same what what was that story for supposedly lost for lost to Cheeto back in 2020 August it it was I mean it sucked at the time but I it didn't suck too bad because I was like okay I didn't lose because I you know and it was different I wasn't I mean I was focused everything went good training camp everything was good but I was like that sucks I'm goingon to get that back someday when the time is right and then my last fight two two months ago in Miami headline I'm the champ defending my belt against that same guy how rewarding was that three and a half years later August three and a half years later boom beat his ass as a fan of yours it made it so sweet because of all the doubters that constantly like put you down and didn't believe in you and said he was going to destroy you and then you he literally like you embarrass him that was a performance of a life you embarrassed the [ __ ] out of him and I think that's literally a prime example of turning l l into into a w and I really that's what that's where the hidden l in the brand in the logo is um and representing that every single day when you see these products in your bathroom and when we say we have a saying it's not just a product it's a lifestyle absolutely trademarked Incorporated All Rights Reserved 2024 brother uh but but yeah man it's it's an honor to have you a part of this and uh we we really made what we think are the best products on the market from the body wash being exfoliating vitamin infused to the body spray what we found out is a lot of these fragrances like you get like these high-end designer brands that have like $500 colognes turns out it only cost them a dollar to make that and they're literally making like $499 on top of that so we had a fine fragrance house is what these places are called and we got the super expensive scents and gave it to people to what they're worth like we're not trying to these products are super super affordable and I think it's so funny because that's the world we live in where like you just label something and get like a European girl to go this is one of the lower priced men's care products on the market yeah if I'm not mistaken and it's it's the $500 fragrance in the affordable bottle because we want everyone we've been using a body wash in the past two days since we got the samples after the shoot and I personally want to say I got the in there you could bleep it out whatever you want to do W's winning n b genuinely that's that's the saying is the it's winning formula cuz it really is like it really is if if we're going to call our company [ __ ] W it has to be the best we the winners winning product indeed indeed winning customers all that type of [ __ ] indeed better Derek today he's just got a punch I'm not Li I talked to him before he left he wants to punch you up bro he's got a punchable face I like him though it's weird it's like God I like that guy but I want [ __ ] KO pick him up and like it's okay boom one more to the liing me earlier and I'm just letting you know don't shoot the messenger on God he said he wants to get in the ring with you I can call him really he oh yeah he he you want to call him yeah where is he at is wait uh no call no call he's coming up oh um he's talking smack he said he actually wants a spar I swear to God he said he wants to get percentage should I go you guys I literally out let that's crazy timeing saying talk [ __ ] to my face if you're going to talk [ __ ] that's crazy timing what were you saying they were telling me you want to get in the ring and Spar bit or they didn't say Spar they said fight yeah I'm down to do either but uh yeah no I'm just sick of the [ __ ] [ __ ] you've been saying on your podcast uh you called me you made fun of my weight and you called me gay I did not no I well okay okay you said that he wouldn't ever say that what you got to say what your chest that's what I just [ __ ] said bro I he was like oh if I if stand on it you talking to him you talking to him you ain't talking to me my assistant Sono would would piece you he's never boxed a day he never I'm here to fight your video I'm here to fight you what did I what was the first thing I said to you when when I saw you what was the first thing I said to you that we could fight no I said you look thick wait but when we were talking earlier weren't you saying he's a [ __ ] and you wanted to get a ring with him and all type [ __ ] what I'm saying right now say it then I just said the [ __ ] ring so we can after this we have a ring 2 feet away and he's a [ __ ] and whatever else you was saying to me yeah he's [ __ ] what about my hair say something about my hair I I already said that at the W shoot that you look like you haven't showered in [ __ ] a week okay all right d hey buddy hey hey what's your long-term play not no but see you guys you guys are making me seem crazy you're out of your mind he Derek Dereck go warm up hit the hit the heavy back H the warm up is almost listen legendary as send location dble PIV go warm up hey hey double pivot sit sit I'm not [ __ ] no I I'll sit and talk but I'm not [ __ ] no sit on the floor walk you want to take my seat hey how much how much of what's going on ch ch how much of what's going on is is a character versus like actual delusion how much is a character yeah decent uh I would say there are times where I know what I have to do for my boxing career to like like we all why is he laughing cuz you said career I beat your [ __ ] boy your [ __ ] [ __ ] bro you know what I I recall you did beat I recall calling steiny saying what the [ __ ] was that buddy I love steiny but I do remember watching that and thinking I wasn't proud of that I was not proud of that from steiny and I wish I wish he would come to the gym I wish he'd get in there I wish he'd train a little bit and I wish he would have a rematch but that's on him I've been trying to get the rematch but he's been ding me do you think Derek won he said I won I thought I thought he won I'd have to rewatch but I do think I come on baby the comments have [ __ ] dragged me for months after that [ __ ] 99% of the comments say I lost so please say it one more time Sean no I said it what I said it's like therapy or something no but to answer your question uh we all know uh uh as Fighters there's a side of promotion stop [ __ ] first of all Gus shut the [ __ ] up our our audio guys uh like can't stop laughing is that the facial his facial hair or is what he's saying bro that's bold of you to talk facial hair bro that's bold of you to I'm not Li you look dirty you look like Jeffrey done training right Jesus I train every day but anyway we know like there's two sides of of promotion as well as the actual athletic competition that is Combat Sports so there are times where I might play up a little bit like hey promoting but let him go let him go all right if you if all if you think I'm all promoting that I'll see you in the [ __ ] ring and I'll knock both you either of you out well um well Jake's a [ __ ] fat [ __ ] right now he weighs like 240 so I got I goty I gotta pick my words wisely like he's Jake's 240 I I know I know but like I'm not going to sit here and pick a fight against somebody that's 240 when I'm se's my weight class when I stopped you in one round like just like but when I was getting started out of come this is where I'm at since then I told him he could have somebody tag team I'm down I'm down to fight anybody in this [ __ ] room not one person in this room I'm the best part about this is like uh right after this we I think you're you're down to do like one round or three minutes right I mean I'd prefer 12 but we okay yeah 12 I mean that my biggest advantage in the ring ring is my cardio I do 12 12 okay so no I have a genuine question so five round I'm not I'm not one have I ever said I'm a UFC fighter no I'm just say we can box I'm just saying that's I'm used to five you want to do three we could do that aren't you trying to be a boxer with your [ __ ] Ryan Garcia call he would knock knock your [ __ ] ass out so quickly it wouldn't be close I'm one and0 pro boxing what are you actually I saw that video I saw video I'm also want to know thank you officially hey they count that's real commiss but uh I didn't mean I didn't mean to take I didn't mean to take over the pot I just wanted to a couple you definitely didn't yeah okay I try I'm trying to help you no we love you go warm up yeah yeah go warm up the bags don't warm up too much though don't get tired how much do you wa right now without Timberlands and jean shorts on high 120 low 13 no without lying though okay that [ __ ] is you think you got you got him one round I think I could beat him I think I can beat him I I think I could handicap myself to three just put on one glove I could do that what do you think actually happens now when you go downstairs and he gets in that ring like what's his plan that's what I don't get about him but that's why it's that's do me a favor that's why he's Cloud it up because love [ __ ] up [ __ ] he's going he's going to try to Yap he's going to try to talk please just go 100% yeah no actually actually please go 100% if he signs a consent form we'll have him no we've already got like multiple consent forms for better media with like death wavers [ __ ] no no no but he needs it he needs that I'll go like 40 no go like 75 Sean I'm I'm going to be honest bro don't even go 20% he's the nice [ __ ] bro don't do that bro you want him to go 100% no no to be honest but just like work with him and then just like maybe just just like a really good punching and then he'll give up 75% uh I'm nervous man I'm shaking for Derek yeah yeah that's good I understand that there a couple flinches if you Flinch hard enough the the wind coming off you will put him down let him walk you down and bait him boom sleeping what's your next upcoming fight a maraba jaaba and when is that uh not nothing yet I'm hoping for September maybe October maybe November maybe December I'm F ready to go baby what if it was next month I wouldn't be ready to go I like I like 10 to 12 weeks 10 to 12 he likes eight I mean I I normally do like 10 yeah just like but I've been super the first few weeks are [ __ ] pre-amps this Camp I'm channeling my Ryan Garcia would you ever do a Ryan Garcia regiment during Camp drink and smoke every night you do a little I I probably yeah I'm not actually doing that for the people out there he's locked in clocked in locked in locked in ready to go yeah May 20th we start but by the time the people see this it'll be uh June or something like that that is crazy you're fighting Mike that you fought Ben asran wrestler good good [ __ ] UFC was really good UF bit Tyron Woodley twice Anderson Silva knockout of the year with Nate Robinson can't forget about deji deji the the the goat do we say Gibb or is that like that's just crazy resume like literally [ __ ] C by way thank you Gib cuz we had a really good party after he knocked you the [ __ ] out who W we're skipping two professional boxers this always no no the recent ones this always happens I'm trying to just think cuz two cuz this is what everybody asked for this is what everybody asked for who who are the two professional boxers you fighted you got to name them Andre August and Ryan Borland go okay people don't people are like fight a pro boxer and then I do and then they're like that was boring as a man of combat he what were 10 and one nine and one nine and one what is your take on his [ __ ] all of his fights and who he's fighting in the competition dude I've been excited as [ __ ] since I started I remember you I remember the first time I watched was the Nate Robinson I watched that one at home and then uh I don't remember what it was after that but I remember watching Ben Asam in Atlanta I think that was the first time we actually met was right after the fight I think we hugged I was like y I picked you up you carried me back to the locker room that it was love at first sight that was crazy actually yeah actually I [ __ ] with him we became best friends like a couple days later you going to leave me hanging no no I would it's my eyebrow but uh yeah no I think he's obviously super skilled I think it's and I I it's inspired me even in the position I'm at UFC World Champ sexy you know what I mean like tall dark handsome TR inspired me just business the business uh side of things that you've done I've always thought putting on massive fight that's why I'm such a huge Conor fan cuz the pay-per-views he's done is so [ __ ] he's been fighting for four years and [ __ ] that he's been doing the massive fights the fights I get excited for there's a few UFC fights the high the big big fights that I get excited for but every time you fought even when uh Logan fought Floyd I was [ __ ] like excited like all fight week so i' I've been inspired from what you've done from a business side from the boxing side they even just start so not late but for a boxer but these boxers start when they're [ __ ] three four years old like Ryan and tank like they're young buck the Tik Tac I sent you of Devon Haney's debut fight yeah it's wild he was fighting a five foot Mexican in a in a bar was it Dante bro if I show you this [ __ ] oh no I did see that I did see that I did see that when you started even seeing that first video fighting Anderson Silva six fights in bro like do you know how insane that is he's one of the greatest correct me if I'm wrong UFC Strikers in history yeah 100% so does that make me one of the greatest UFC Strikers and one of the greatest wrestlers cuz wood but Ben ask was but Nate Diaz is ducking me in MMA oh am crazy I am weak that's a sick fight MMA I I wish it was that would happened right after the boxing same he's actually ducking it which is why it's crazy because he's not he's not in UFC no but we we upped it to 15 million damn that's crazy though that would be a I like Nate Diaz but that would be such a fun buildup he actually doesn't want to do it all Sean how do you genuinely Jake's not here it's me and you in a room actually how do you see that fight going for Jake what MMA him you're not here J for Nate in MMA keep it a bean God it's it's so hard to you're a big [ __ ] right now on what weight would it be5 185 I don't hate I don't I it's not a it's a winable fight for you I really do think that but Nate is so [ __ ] you would have to do what I did against aljo and morab do not let that [ __ ] grab you not that you can't wrestle cuz I know you can wrestle but once he starts grabbing you and doing Jiu-Jitsu if he gets on top his little he likes his little trips it would be hard for you to win I feel like if he if he started grappling just pure Jiu-Jitsu if it let's be real if it goes to the floor is he [ __ ] if he's on his back Nate's not like a super strong guy so if you learn how to like I mean I'm sure you know how to get up to a single legegg stuff like that but then you start getting your neck grabbed I don't know how much Jiu-Jitsu you know I mean Nate's a [ __ ] high Lev black belt um if you could keep it standing 100% there's winnable ways there if he if he went to the ground feel like he might be able to grab your neck no that that's exactly how I feel about it if I don't get guillotined yeah then I win the fight because even if he was on top take your back but even if he was on top of me I would just throw him off of me cuz he's also the weakest puncher I've ever fought like when he was hitting me I was I almost like started laughing I'm I'm not even saying this to talk [ __ ] out of everyone I've sparred in my whole entire life and everyone I fought his punches are even me we I don't think you ever landed a punch on me is that true well that's not true so I don't anyone no I'm literally not even talking [ __ ] which is why I think it's funny that he dropped Connor and [ __ ] cuz it's just like how Conor with like to the ground yeah like with a straight left hand yeah which is crazy like I I'm not just talking [ __ ] when I say that and I've told you I've literally told you this you told me this after the fight yeah I was like he is the weakest puncher I've ever fought in my life who's who's the weakest puncher you've ever you've ever come to face um there I mean there's been so many fights where I later didn't even get hit um uh does that like make you jaded at all when you get into a fight and you don't really get love that [ __ ] I prefer not to get hit at all but like if I was you and I wasn't get hit at all I'd probably work less no no no no I I know I don't get hit because I work that hard so if I didn't work hard I know I'd probably get hit I'm just a lazy [ __ ] so so here you are on top of the world we're launching [ __ ] W going to be a billion dollar business [ __ ] you I always forget uh UFC champ accomplishing all your goals what do you want next uh what are what is the threeyear fiveyear for Sean I I truly do want to get a boxing fight I'm not I'm not super set on that to where like I'm like going to be [ __ ] if it doesn't happen I do think it'll be interesting especially if I go out there knock morab out Ryan does his thing I think there's a [ __ ] sweet fight there if it doesn't happen not that worried about it want to go out there beat morab I'd like to you know if Max Max and Elia fight I would like to fight go move up to 45 fight the winner of that um you know maybe have three to five maybe have a few more kids definitely want another little baby I love kids my fite pump him out shout out to Danny who's your top pick in a boxing fight though if you if you could choose your Ryan now was like the I mean what he after dvon Beat Ryan I was like javante then Ryan goes out there does his thing really though I think Dante do you is that is that not a big [ __ ] leap Ryan like you said before he's been doing this his whole life one thing that's been proven is that the crossover it's it's not a good return Fury he did his thing okay the excep is the exception we've seen it with okay but then Anthony Joshua put his ass t was crazy super night night he was I'm I'm here for big fights like I wanted to get into the UFC and I wanted to make big fights watching Conor versus Floyd I'm like that [ __ ] happened really happened hey you versus Derek that could be as big as Connor in Floyd but no but I I think the craziest [ __ ] about Conor versus Floyd is that overall it was a W for everyone involved so there's certain fights where it just like doesn't matter what happens that's the world we live in yeah I mean UFC told me they said if the if the fight's big enough and it'll make the UFC money they'll do it what means more to you your your your record being pre or the amount of money you're making all right let me ask you something it's about to get real J's drunk Jasper's drunk as [ __ ] y record or money [ __ ] it depends the Gap like like the gap of money if it's like an extra 10 15 20 million but I lose a couple important fights probably not you just take like 150 million I'll be like like [ __ ] my record baby yeah it depends on the gap of money Jake Paul is not here right now just like a Mayweather Conor McGregor you taking that fight ver Jake yeah no he's my buddy I could I mean I don't I don't even no I no funny no there's you know what's funny is always in my Snapchat story once once a day pretty much someone says we knock out Jake Paul like there's every sing all the time for so long people just want to see me get [ __ ] is good though that's like the thing yeah but I'm sensitive it is funny though people [ __ ] love to hate confidence the craziest thing though actually about both of you like I met you very recently like I didn't realize you're as like normal as you are I don't know why I thought you violent like you guys are both like very goofy mellow and stupid and c and and awesome it's like the greatest thing ever like I couldn't believe when I met you you're like one of us like yeah I wouldn't think you're a [ __ ] yeah one of the coolest people in the world for sure yeah but not a lot of people uh can like I don't know we have like a weird it's hard toes Meat Heads I'm like this the this my dog I think it's a little bit of dark humor too it's like some [ __ ] up [ __ ] that we say off camera [ __ ] sometimes but I think it's like there's a certain yeah like that's how my whole group is back home it's like we all just we're all just kind of [ __ ] dumb I'm smart but like they're dumb well someone commented like yo Jake Paul's the dumbest genius in the world and I was just like I say that [ __ ] all the time you wed up the other day and I was like this is the most genius dumbass in the world no jokes Hey Brother chill buddy trying to get me cancelled no what how old are you 23 are you really yeah no you're not he's not is he what do you think think what did you think Oh no you're 267 27 what did you think he was I thought he was older I thought he was like 27 26 yeah a niggaer mature was that ladies you got a boo you got a girl you just be slanging she timeout right now I don't really talk about she don't time out it's a little tricky she not taking care of herself what do you guys think about Tom Brady R you watch it yeah they kept comp panning to you every 5 Seconds bro I swear there's a huge camer sitting there the whole time but it's cool to see Netflix going hard like that cuz they went hard they swing that meat around huha yeah let's pivot yeah just sorry about him I'm drunk man not yeah but but it was it was great it wasar they should have got rid of most of the football players going up there yeah there's a couple ones Ben afflac is that who that was on there that was wild that was so weird that was so weird it was cool to see how [ __ ] less sensitive people are becoming I feel like feel like it's recently like there's a big push back I think people got sick of it we went super super super PC for a long time people were like wait a second we like being able to say what we want to say I saw kill Tony say oh type of crazy [ __ ] on there that watch every [ __ ] Monday you were on kill Tony yeah how old are you actually buddy I'm a comedian Budd full time no yeah I was on that I was nervous as hell though I was like just being it's a live I do podcast once a week like me and Tim do our podcast every [ __ ] week but to be there in front of an audience live it's weird it's a different kind of well so you say Tim but let's let's talk about actually the fact that you get trained by by one of the greatest boxers of all time it's really that's something what's happened like that's crazy working with Canelo as your as your coach that's what I'm saying people don't going to be Ryan but like yeah that is true I never even thought about that for did you even know that this guy proba even know that that orange [ __ ] is nice wait will I get cancelled by the ginger community no you're black oh no my dad my dad's Ginger and I'm I'm like this [ __ ] is ginger bro he be shaving he be shaving his beard and I zoom in zoom in it's it's slightly orange so I'm a quarter ginger on South Park they made fun of Gingers and that [ __ ] made the news I [ __ ] with the ginger people but like y'all [ __ ] you like redhead girls oh yeah was Super Soaker but anyway yeah like y'all [ __ ] is orange and that's okay but back to you one of y'all that's not drunk I got a question cuz this guy clipped out a lot did Tim actually like you guys about him like saying to fight that was yeah that was real Tim always be talking [ __ ] to the like he's been doing that for so long so what happened he just talk I mean he just he Alo the knee's coming Alo you got to shoot Alo watch out for this like he's been saying that since I've been in the UFC like my debut vers terion where he was talking [ __ ] to terion too and uh he just does it every fight but this happened to just be crazy timing to like Tim you got Tim like alre you got to go and like literally he he like that's when he threw that left hand or whatever stepped into Southpaw and uh or stepped into Orthodox and got dropped it was it was funny the timing because he's like Al you got to go I don't I truly don't think that's why that's not why Alo went I bet you could I bet Alo didn't even hear that but Tim's always chirping and stuff but people on the internet are [ __ ] mad about that a lot of them actually like it I'll say majority of people are thinking that's the funniest [ __ ] ever there's a couple [ __ ] that are like you should be banned think it's a fight would you run the alra fight back or one and done never I like that why would I yeah am I supposed to top that you know what I'm saying I got love for Alo we had him on the show and he he seems like a good dude I actually don't mind Alo I does that ever happen where like you'll have a personal relationship with someone personal runin with them and it's all great but then now all of a sudden you have to fight each other I've never had I've not of running with someone that's been like uh more than like I've ran into aljo morab at the UFC I'm like hey what's up talk to him a little bit you know nothing no ill will um but I haven't had like a run with someone I actually lik them mhm and then at the fight them so you're not friends with any any other UFC fighters oh I have a there's there's a couple guys in my in my weight class that I train with at the lab that are like climbing the r uh ladders what happened with uh the 125 pounder I I don't even know his name and I'm not I'm just not like yeah what's his name I Alexander pania bro this story is actually kind of funny so 2016 I think it was it was like 3 and0 4 and0 and I was still fighting at like I fought at 125 not too long before that I fought at like 130 which is in a weight class was like so I wasn't like a 155 like I am now I was probably like 14 back then and uh Henry cejudo comes in I'm three or four and0 at the point at this point it comes in with this kid Alexander PTO just won The Ultimate Fighter I think he's got his UFC debut or it's his second UFC fight he's a couple weeks out from his fight I'm [ __ ] the night before me and Tim ripping bongs like hanging out being goofballs and [ __ ] so the next morning so we brought him in for sparring hry sudo brings in Alexander you're 4-0 he's King [ __ ] he he's just won The Ultimate Fighter and so they write the names on on the board who who you're sparring I'm like oh [ __ ] I got Alexander Pantoja versus me for one round one round he has three rounds so you write one one name then usually you you spar with one guy then they go out you spar with a fresh guy they go out spar with the fresh guy that's usually how it works so my name was just up there for one round that's it we Spar one round I didn't know anything about him cuz I I didn't really watch it like that 25 I don't really watch 25ers like that but somebody's like oh [ __ ] that's he a black belt he just won The Ultimate Fighter I was like oh [ __ ] I got to [ __ ] Focus up here first round boom Dro him with a liver kick and I wasn't going to post I record all my rounds I have so many sparring rounds like I wasn't going to post it was and for some reason I don't know why he would talk [ __ ] and bring it up cuz I literally I don't know you know know I don't know if you know how it works but you finish a guy the fight's over right no no did he um so I finished him the first round he hit him boom with the liver I posted the video yesterday and I've had it for a long time I didn't want to post it CU you don't post sparring like that but he just kept bringing it up so boom finished him first round um then uh after the first round round I go to walk out and Henry's over there crying box of Kleenex just like [ __ ] wiping his tears crying we want you for a second round so mad that this little like I was nobody just finished his dude he's in the UFC he's supposed to be the man finish him in the first round so Henry's crying saying he wants another round um so I piece him up again in the second round and I'm I'm dying at this point my lungs are burning I'm not in shape for fight I I'm nowhere near in Camp for a fight and I my lungs are hurting and uh Henry again crying blowing his nose and like I want you for a third and Benson comes in Benson Henderson absolute Legend comes in and was yelling cuz that's his it was the his gym the MMA lab we don't let people come in our gym and make us tired and blah blah blah and I'm [ __ ] just just huffing and puffing I just got done work in this dude for 10 minutes finished him in the first round did I say that liver kick um we'll put the footage I have the foot yeah it's right there insert the footage so third round come out boom piece him up again and he's so I don't know why he keeps bringing up this bringing this up in the media I think it's because people ask him but I don't know why he doesn't just say yeah yeah no no I don't want to talk about it he keeps saying like he's like oh I got in I found his range and [ __ ] I'm like bro you you stopped him in one round stopped him in round one and let him live and continue to fight for round two these delusional uh like wild people are weirdos but the reason I posted cuz he kept bringing it up exactly wait so is he the champ now at 125 yeah okay but why does he still want to talk [ __ ] to you if you got [ __ ] up that's what I'm saying I don't know either either you drop to 125 and get that no I can't drop to 125 that's too much now you're a thick [ __ ] I am a thick but yeah I SP I think it's important for up and cominging Spar uh fighters to record their rounds and watch their rounds not for that this reason you know but just to I've improve so much watching my sparring y I have thousands of rounds maybe not thousands hundreds of rounds from 10 years ago on my on my computer of uh it's like NFL team is watching footage the time [ __ ] 100% got to watch that [ __ ] that's I I have every single round recorded and and again I I don't post sparring either exactly you know put in a highlight video make a vlog boom we're sparring people but it's never like [ __ ] up your guy yeah exactly but Mike Perry honestly like what he's been doing is pretty Fu he went to Bare knuckle that [ __ ] just meant for him bare knuckle fighting it's crazy different going crazy he's doing good he's [ __ ] undefeated over there he's beating some really good guys stay over here [ __ ] [ __ ] only place that you should be getting tickets from is game time.co it's it's the only place I go it is the only place you can possibly go they have 110% price match guarantee that's what we use to get our tickets for the NBA Finals you can get $20 off your first order go to gametime.co JJ a $20 off your first order they're doing a deal specifically for y'all and you could see where your tickets are before you buy them seeing the seats they have all of the these great policies last 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platform there is Mike Paul versus Jake Tyson here's my official prediction tell us and even if even if it's against me like it's not it's not I do think you're going to beat Mike Tyson uh it's crazy that I even saying that out loud right now cuz you're fighting Mike Tyson it's [ __ ] crazy even just when we were walking down the the street today people all genders all ages knew you were fighting Mike Tyson it's such a massive fights live on Netflix which is [ __ ] crazy it's in a stadium which is [ __ ] crazy it is crazy I believe in you I see what you I see what you're doing I see you know that you believe in yourself Mike Tyson is uh hasn't fought in however long it's been so for him to just come up and get a fight be I I'm sure is going to be in as good a shape as he possibly could be in but it's just you know it's it's it's it's not his time right now I love Mike Tyson I never actually met him but I love Mike Tyson I do think Jake's gonna get the job done and I do think eight rounds eight two-minute rounds eight two-minute rounds I believe I believe you could put them away in the later rounds you know five six seven eight I do think you could put it put him down which is crazy to even [ __ ] think you rap yeah that's fire I'm just lazy and inconsistent that's not a w no that sh it is not you start using Brandon yell at him every day but cuz you can actually spit that's fire no but but people know him now from like podcasting they don't know he's a rapper and hurts his soul J sick name Lil jizz what J JZ that's good that's good you should switch your [ __ ] I switch my [ __ ] from come Master to kill Jas bro honestly though that's I think singing rapping spitting is one of the things that if I could switch talents be doing something like that that's good or twerking I ain't going to lie you shook that [ __ ] earlier I got a I got a thing on me you that [ __ ] wiggle a little bit let's let's pivot though cuz yep hit a pivot uh yeah do we have a speaker should we play Jasper's new song or something you got a new one I thought you were lazy some new [ __ ] go ahead play on your phone just put it in the speaker put it in the mic too this the [ __ ] I'm dropping when I'm Indie that sound decent I'm not rapping either I'm yapping that's not going to get you drunk yo I made this beat that's crazy I like the way you look I won't lie you got something I need you my with a fly girl like you doing with no guy a little sh don't really go outside I'm not crazy right place and right time you all smiles and pretty light brown [Music] [Music] like that better if I forget you but I just can't time saying do better and I'm sure you can find that guy that's worth all right cut it cut it cut it that's that's enough that's enough that's enough that's enough for real can't give the whole thing it's not out yet yeah hey good [ __ ] that's fire I'll be rapping though but that's some pop [ __ ] just cuz I can do it so why are you consistent cuz I'm lazy and jaded and and spoiled yeah it's unfortunate maam shout out to the homies for a lot of talented people out there that just are yeah don't smoke crack yo also there there is a parallel there don't do don't do that there's a parallel with the same thing he's talking about I think Fighters probably where it's like you could have all the talent in the world he's got that's why I get so [ __ ] mad at him it's cuz he has all the talent in the world really I get more pissed off than he gets and he could be a superstar but he just is lazy he doesn't put the work in he's not he's not strategic and it is hard when you got when you live in a crib in Puerto Rico right you got chefs and [ __ ] and you fly private with me yeah that's it that's it bro that's it you got to you got get paychecks and [ __ ] y'all got to evict me that's not a bad idea honestly I think we talked about it let's make I was I'm H we had a conversation but I just can't I can't because I love you so much I need you but then I'll probably be more like need you y yeah I guarante and then we you would still have to like fly in once a week to to do the pods and it would be resentment and then I I'll go out like and I'll try to start shooting at y'all oh my God I guarantee I would be in the position I'm in if I if I had money and like had already made it like financially had [ __ ] I wouldn't have made it that's why people think I'm crazy but CC the other side of it is like boom right so I'm from com California same hey shout out my [ __ ] yeah man I was homeless for the first half of my life mom's a drug addict dad's a gang member I've never had anything in my life right and my whole life has been music I dropped out in ninth grade I was like I'm going to make music my dad kicks me out he's like you can't live under this roof like be more like your brothers my brothers are [ __ ] star students one got a full ride scholarship loser all all type of [ __ ] nerd ass [ __ ] all those [ __ ] are fat and unemploy now one dropped out of school a full rise scholarship and is just sitting at home right so boom from having nothing to like me saying I'm going to risk everything that I have in my life to become a music artist and it works I get to a certain place and I'm like damn I did exactly I hit a ceiling right so it's like now I had to recalibrate he got a big record deal and then and then like use I crashed out and became a m addict for four four days a week for 30 like 90 days oh it's not bad but then I moved cuz my homeboy was like you need to move and I was like nah [ __ ] that I made a million I ain't going to move I'm going to maintain this lifestyle I'm a junkie but I'm rich yep I crashed out and was like yeah I need to move lost 60 lbs went to Puerto Rico locked in recalibrated and now I'm ready to be but that's that's here's the problem we run into now is that you've recalibrated and now it's still it's been 6 months the album's supposed to be 6 months ago and we're still waiting for the album that's the problem and that's what you got to work on never too late though let's start it let's get because you're vitamin deficient right yeah yeah cuz like a lot of people can't think straight when they're vitamin deficient and all that a week ago kind of elaborated on that so yeah this isn't therapy um I got shout out Suzie right right huh Susie but she's hot is she not you think my therapist you guys got the same one I could pee and vape on this podcast I got to go pee go pee I could pee yeah I mean I think we I think we end the episode because uh let's wrap it up you can get W available at Walmart anyway if you walk into Walmart whether you with your mom your daddy you by yourself you go in that [ __ ] men body care aisle you buy that and comment down below what you thought of the episode for um us being brain fried over and uh jper but Buzz also comment cuz this coming out when the product releases comment your favorite scent and sent $10,000 right no I'm send you 1,000 I ain't got 10,000 for you but I'll send you 1,000 I'll send someone 10,000 he'll send you 10,000 I'll send you a th000 and I'm going through the comments for sure anyway good luck Charlie and if you got a test soon good luck on that [ __ ] that's what we [Music] do what are those 8 O gloves I want you to know they were talking up there he ain't going easy so be ready all right legit be ready buddy I'm using these bags don't show Too Much don't show we're boxing we're boxing I don't I do that on accident sometimes just know that that might come up just keep your hands up I'm just saying I might throw that up I haven't knocked someone out in a while just cuz my last fight didn't go off it went off five rounds I've been like craving just putting someone's lights out lately it's weird versus your boy better Derek I I hope Sean isn't nice and just [ __ ] him up that's your that's your trainee [ __ ] D all righty folks welcome to your main event of the evening starting out first in the loser corner you have better day with a record of no wins no losses I beat ste's [ __ ] out no anything he is 5'7 120 lbs lost in the mile to better JoJo but he's still delusional in his fighting career and to my left in the winning Corner sponsored by W sugar sha Ali The Undefeated UFC champion of the world it's time to fight bring it to the center we already spoke about the rules in the locker room beforehand give me your glove give me your hand touch gloves I want a clean fair fight no no hits below the waist back to your Corners time you ready judge you ready and fight [Music] [Applause] I'm out of balance or something oh do Dodge that [ __ ] hold on hold on hold on hold [ __ ] come on come on just oh my God one back of the head no no no back of the head four ref didn't see it five six me in the eyes Walk This Way Walk This Way for me he's running Walk This Way for me my car run all right and we're in in that right that's called all right time time time one two that was a that was a slip four up six bro Rizo what the [ __ ] are you doing all right get up SLP all right come on time in come on got come on got you [ __ ] black I'm going to I need to work I need to see some work black UT D somebody said 10 seconds like 8 seconds ago all right great back to your corner back to your corner back to your corner stay in there you're doing good right now this feel good I feel good do you see that one I landed clean on his face I think we all terrible shut the [ __ ] up for once in your [ __ ] life shut the [ __ ] up Sean's doing half punches on him shut up I'll act like uh no don't act like bro I'm just I'm putting in work all right how this how you when you [ __ ] beat the old wash UFC fighters everybody comments you're fighting old was UFC fighters what do you think 10s I think they're right in in round two round two round two oh got him [ __ ] oh [Music] [ __ ] hey put that hey that that's a that's going to be a 10 count can't get me by the that's going to be a 10 count that's going to be a 10 count next time back in the just there going to be a 10 count next time get in there give me real quick get him with some you thank you perfect okay BL I'm going to need to see some more one two back to your corner white Corner neutral Corner 5 6 seven eight n look at me thank you bro come on you want to fight do you want to fight when I do you want to fight yes yeah wait wait time back in wake up time time time time time I promise okay it's to the floor the rules of transfer to MMA tap tap tap he's St he's T he's ta all right I block out all right you're good to go wait wait the fight was over get the [ __ ] out of the ring oh it's over it's over it's over it's over go you got it's over it's over it's over [Music]	one one name then usually you you spar with one guy then they go out you spar with a fresh guy they go out spar with the fresh guy that's usually how it works so my name was just up there for one round that's it we Spar one round I didn't know anything about him cuz I I didn't really watch it like that 25 I don't really watch 25ers like that but somebody's like oh [ __ ] that's he a black belt he just won The Ultimate Fighter I was like oh [ __ ] I got to [ __ ] Focus up here first round boom Dro him with a liver kick and I wasn't going to post I record all my rounds I have so many sparring rounds like I wasn't going to post it was and for some reason I don't know why he would talk [ __ ] and bring it up cuz I literally I don't know you know know I don't know if you know how it works but you finish a guy the fight's over right no no did he um so I finished him the first round he hit him boom with the liver I posted the video yesterday and I've had it for a long time I didn't want to post it CU you don't post sparring like that but he just kept bringing it up so boom finished him first round um then uh after the first	8	6	4	one one name then usually you you spar with one guy then they go out you spar with a fresh guy they go out spar with the fresh guy that's usually how it works so my name was just up there for one round that's it we Spar one round I didn't know anything about him cuz I I didn't really watch it like that 25 I don't really watch 25ers like that but somebody's like oh [ __ ] that's he a black belt he just won The Ultimate Fighter I was like oh [ __ ] I got to [ __ ] Focus up here first round boom Dro him with a liver kick and I wasn't going to post I record all my rounds I have so many sparring rounds like I wasn't going to post it was and for some reason I don't know why he would talk [ __ ] and bring it up cuz I literally I don't know you know know I don't know if you know how it works but you finish a guy the fight's over right no no did he um so I finished him the first round he hit him boom with the liver I posted the video yesterday and I've had it for a long time I didn't want to post it CU you don't post sparring like that but he just kept bringing it up so boom finished him first round um then 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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXPZ1KzdpsY	4,103	mXPZ1KzdpsY	2024-06-20 00:00:00	well well well ladies and gentlemen do we have a special episode for you today none other than sugar Shan om Ali the current UFC bantamweight champion a legend in his own right this episode was off the cusp we were a little turned up Jasper was really really drunk so we weren't really prepared for this at all the conversations definitely got wild and obviously as you guys have seen over maybe the past week or so we launched a new company called w am men's carine in Walmart this company is so near and dear to my heart and I partnered with Shawn to bring this Vision to life amongst other celebrities artists and athletes that we are announcing over the next couple of weeks here get your w at Walmart it is very very very very very good stuff and yes you heard the news I am fighting Mike Perry on July 20th it is going down I'm still fighting Mike Tyson November 15th that is happening but I'm staying active knocking out Mike Perry on July 20th and I'm excited for y'all to listen to this episode and he the vision of w how it all came together and how Shawn got involved and then everything to do with Shawn's career this podcast has been a long time coming but prepare yourself for some idiocracy per usual uh this is [ __ ] with Jake Paul we have a secret handshake check it out AC let me get that stop playing mean yeah we created that because we actually have so many things to get into here this has been a long time coming Jasper did bring up something and the reason W was created was because the other products in the category had harmful dyes parabens sulfates hormone disruptors and so we wanted to create the better for you vitamin infused product and and Sean's a co-owner just signed today yesterday for the show but we we'll get into all of that we we've been you know bringing sea on for like we've been talking for like a month and a half yes sir yes sir um it is currently May we've been doing a lot of shoots this podcast will probably come out at post W launch you can get I'm so drunk I'm sorry y'all you can get it in uh Walmart every Walmart you in Paca Walmart get it in you in Pensacola it's in Walmart in Kentucky Walmart Walmart so basically uh we we brought in the greatest people in the world to help build W and Sean is one of those people but dialing everything back we will get into the company the body washes how this all came about but uh we've been wanting to do this podcast and thanks for joining us BR hey guys hey thanks for joining us right did you uh yeah I did you sh for an hour bro did you did you do do we know do we set the stage of the day and the fact that Jasper's slash right now okay cool y drunk is a [ __ ] y like double drunk yep yep yep you drunk yeah all that so um but just winding everything back uh I think we've been friends for a long time in fact you were the first guest on this show oh [ __ ] crazy Zoom crazy that's right that's right that's right the first ever episode you zoomed in and that's crazy we're thankful we're thankful for our friendship and it's pretty cool that now we're here again today uh getting less views than before and that's fire that's it congratulations less views we're not we're not it was it was a joke it was a joke if you watching this please like and comment cuz we falling off right now but man by the time this comes out you're going to be getting ready for me RAB how do you say his name I don't remember morab is iTab or or I don't know me that's got to be it me but you got to say it with the emphasis look meab mirab meab meab there you go there you go so yeah I should be getting ready hopefully I ain't got nothing scheduled hopefully uh you know Uncle Dana will call me say hey buddy you want to fight in in here and there and there and then I'm d b boom and that that's how that works what's up with everybody on your body though everybody talking [ __ ] even people youat I wanted to bring up yeah and he's like saying like he's trying to post about you even yesterday it is weird but when you concuss someone you know what I just say they don't think as well as they used to so I think he's still concussed and he's a little confused because he's talking [ __ ] still he not in his right mind because I can just throw up another post go because it's a throwback Thursday it's a throwback Friday do you think do you think people don't respect you enough cuz I I see that as your friend an unbiased like they just see social media and podcasts and the the hair and stuff like that and then they just sh week but I [ __ ] with you I appr that um I don't think it is well you can't you know I think it's fine I think you're jealous I ain't going to lie I got some inches under here let's smell that hair you can smell my [ __ ] must who I do think I feel a little bit disrespected as the champ but I think that last fight against Che kind of you know shut a little bit of people up canny go five rounds Cheeto beat me before the Alo fight um shut a lot of people up canny grapple didn't have to Grapple cuz he couldn't take me down yeah Alo couldn't take you down I think that was the biggest thing where they were like yo that's his weakness like yeah wrestle him down and then he just proved everyone wrong that's what's so interesting about this morab fight is he's supposedly well he is he's [ __ ] good at wrestling he's really really good at wrestling he's boring as [ __ ] and no one will there won't be one comment saying yeah right he's actually kind of fun not one person I'm com won I'm com you can I ask you something would you put yourself in your own top five Strikers in the UFC oh I'm yeah yo easily who's your Mount Rushmore strikker well I I mean I would unbiasedly I would put him as number one because adna is in like top three but he also like got beat by put that [ __ ] down boy he did uh bro I'm up there I'm up there Max is really good Max super his striking that's a good top five there that's four me Max Elia adaga uh I'm sure I'm missing some your with a one would it be that's that's a minus one Mount rmore is four yeah but I only got four but if you throw the five in it's a plus one isn't there only four yeah but but you ready to throw the five up I'm four all right that's my more but yeah once again uh this is a [ __ ] ass podcast so we apologize hey but something something you just touched on you talked about Fighters being fun and interesting how much and you're you're a superstar how much of you being a superstar how much of any fighter being a superstar comes down to them being fun and interesting as you are and how much of it comes down to their actual fighting good question uh well who's a super who who obviously Connor comes to mind I think he's he's a character he's fun he's interesting who else comes to mind is like a superstar I would say Izzy gives that off I think he's an interesting guy other than that there's not like a ton of fun like Ryan Garcia is doing a really good job right now of being [ __ ] interesting being a character uh I think that's fentel I think it's drugs as well I wouldn't deny that but he's still making people interested in Ryan versus Devon Haney was an interesting fight not because Devon Haney that dude's boring as [ __ ] you think he did them roids no I don't think Ryan did I think Devon needs to take that L he being a [ __ ] about I think the craziest [ __ ] you said to me and like I don't even know if we want to put this in there or bring it up but we we can always remove it but uh because of your your situation with the ostarine and you said to me like and it I like fully felt your energy you're like I swear on my daughter's life I never did that and you got popped for it yeah same thing happened uh to Ryan right now he popped for aost the low super low level a some [ __ ] like a trillionth of a gr the same thing happened to me uh so when that came out with Ryan like I truly truly didn't believe he took anything because it was the same [ __ ] and it happens to a lot of [ __ ] ostarine happens to how does that happen it's called the tainted supplement so if you're taking anything that has protein in it that's not third party tested uh could not just protein any kind of supplement that's not third party tested it's either NSF or there's a bunch of different third party tests but if you're not if you're taking something that doesn't have that there's chances there could be something in it but austram people pop for that all the time my case was not that big of a deal cuz I wasn't as huge of a star as I am now but it still was like a big deal because of my name the reason it's going so crazy right now is because Ryan G is a superstar so people are freaking out but it happens to a lot of athletes I just before we move past it I just on that Superstar topic how is that is that Superstar factor that that someone like you has someone like Ryan has someone like Connor has is it something you're born with or is it is it a practice is it something you can learn and do you sit back and like think like oh how can I go viral today how can I I think it's both I think you have to want to be a superstar there's some guys in the UFC like I want to make more money I want this I want that but they don't really want to be a superstar you you got to want it you got to you got to have some kind of vision a long time before well and and also like who you are as a person you have to have that like Fire Within still though like before you got into want famous I want to be in the NFL I want to be NBA I wanted to be a [ __ ] athlete when I was young was instilled I was just for whatever reason I wanted to make it when I was young I'm from H in Montana like small ass can I ask you something what's your opinion on like the take b nickel takes like where he's like super friendly and humble and like I think he's a sweet ass [ __ ] they love him but like bro that [ __ ] pisses me off I think that [ __ ] is cool too n like you're a hum like [ __ ] talk your [ __ ] you're what 670 like bro talk your [ __ ] like it it kind of bores me no I get yeah I mean that's that's some people's opinion is like he's too nice too humble too that but he's being himself um but he's also super young in the sport I think he and he's still pretty what is he 28 you're in a sport of War if I was playing like [ __ ] Cricket I would be like yeah like but that's that's the thing is for for for a character like him what it seems like is that's what he's in is the sport of war and that's it he's not in the sport of entertainment he's a nice ass sweetheart get there is some people that that understand both sides of things but I also have respect for and I see when someone's that's strictly in the sport of if I play chess with you I'm going to be like good game and I'm going to shake your hand I talk [ __ ] be F ass to a PO it I'm going to be like [ __ ] you you need to get better at whatever you're doing dial dialing it back a little bit um to the aost stream thing I think it's like what do you think about Conor tweeting still at like 3:00 a.m. like coked out he he he he sent shots at me and Ryan talking [ __ ] but it's it's crazy coming from Connor who literally got out of the usada pool to do steroid like legit steroids so it's kind of wild and I was the biggest Connor fan for a long time in the last couple weeks ever since he sent that wasn't even a couple weeks ago probably a week ago I've been trying to hate him I've been trying to be like [ __ ] you Connor but I can't I love Connor I it's like I am excited for his fight coming up I'm excited I want you know I'm all about it what's the fight is it Chandler Chandler in June it's going to be big they just been trying to do it for a long time so I didn't know if it still still I think officially I think it's I think I think the craziest part about it is what like eight weeks before a fight that he's still like coked and drunk out of his mind who you got though who that's a good it is crazy that he still like he tweeted that deleted like 20 minutes later he was definitely [ __ ] up on well that's what I was going to say we can't just Grace past that do you is that that's a that's a bold thing to say do you you know he's on coke is that a is that are you [ __ ] gills I don't know anything but I know for certain that he's brother like look at the time of the tweets and look at what he's saying like also and he's like known for this simar tweets yeah yeah I don't know just manic brother I think he is I do think Ryan is I think he when he said he was playing into it a little bit I I think he's kind of using that I think he's [ __ ] crazy what what what would happen if you and Ryan boxed that's I mean there's only one way to find out he has a lot better chances of beating me in a boxing match than he does in a real fight keep up I do I I [ __ ] I truly believe in myself that's how I got to the [ __ ] position I'm in right now I can box I can throw hands um I don't think it'd be easy by any means I do think it's possible I beat him I'm not saying my my odds are great but I do believe I could beat Ryan Bo if there was anybody you could box for your first boxing match debut who are you Bo give an easy fight give me Deon Haney you give [Laughter] me honest answer uh I mean if we're I I would say Floyd if I Pi if I could sit here and pick who I box first boxing fight I pick Floyd because it would be the biggest most crazy most legendary fight maybe not most legendary some people for me okay but outside of that on a skill based level oh I I could hang with some good [ __ ] pro boxers I'm undefeated in boxing you think you think if you and uh ilot boxed that' be ilot is very very [ __ ] skilled boxing that's an interesting question so who what what professional boxer would you equate your PA Mike Tyson I know of Devon Haney now because Ryan Garcia beat him uh dvon Davis he's really short I know him um maybe smacking [ __ ] up though he does he that little guy he can't he can't ride roll coasters though that is true so there's a there's a tradeoff like Cruz fight he was riding a roller coaster no like I'm talking about like at the fair oh no you know like there there's a trade-off in life you know where things get weird it's like it's like yo he's really good but you can't even just hit Dante fan brother can't even ride the top not a Dante fan that's not what I'm wait what did what did I say to say I'm not a you didn't say I mean I don't think he knows that it's a short joke I don't think he picked up on you want me tell him I was joking shut the [ __ ] up I get I say that was a joke I'm what are you trying to say I'm but are you trying to insinuate that I'm short no honestly you're probably what five you're 5'9 you're like 5' seven and a half stop doing stop doing it stop doing that cuz [ __ ] is going to see this and be like he's 5'6 actually if you watching this and you think I'm 5'6 and you want to try me in person please any [ __ ] who see me out I'm punching your [ __ ] out I'm like 5'9 on a good day when when I'm lying to women I'm 5'10 for sure who's gonna ID me I'm wearing forces I'm a [ __ ] liar all right so now for the truth jakee he's like what like he's 5 No but don't do that bro all right all right we won't we'll cut that out like yeah n don't cut it out n don't see me and see these but you know dvon is 5'5 legit that's cool bro I know but is that not short just be honest is that five five short for a grown man for a grown man is that short you can be a fan I'm not I'm a fan of javante and he's five that's a little little bro all right the joke went over his head anyways so the short joke [ __ ] is trying to play me like I'm short no no no we're we're not we're not you're [ __ ] tall all right let's pivot yeah so um SI yeah sh shout out to the shout out to the pivot but but yeah like Jasper's a little riled up things are on edge he's a little he's a little turned up it's been a long day a long two days we've been shooting uh because we have a new [ __ ] company did we say we talk about that yet I we said in the beginning raise your arms up [ __ ] goed [ __ ] goed shout out to w a fun few days it's been a fun few days days you're going to see the content rolling out um but you speaking of but Ruby Rose did a good job oh my God I wanted to bite that M listen anyway if you're near wmart if you're watching this right now I don't give a [ __ ] what you're doing you could be taking care of your kid you could be taking care of your elderly parents [ __ ] them go to Walmart June 1st Nationwide I don't care if you in Pensacola you in Massachusetts all in places that sound [ __ ] stupid there's a Walmart there and you go there it's a better for you product vitamin ifuse number [ __ ] one yeah no basically I I think dialing back like the business story of it because you're also like a very smart businessman intellectual doing everything you do in and outside of the Ring which a lot of people don't have which contributes to you being uh the biggest in my opinion the biggest UFC star um but yeah we we basically I guess this is the podcast where we tell people where W came from but um we started building this company like a year and a half ago and really saw how all these other companies like as we move into better for you products and less harmful products we saw how the leaders in the space didn't have the best formulas didn't have the best manufacturing had all of these harmful substances in it and we're also brands from when I was like 9 years old I don't want to list names but they're still like having all the Shelf space in stores and I was just like this is wild like this is boring this is lame the the the we need something new we need something that's better uh males have vitamin uh deficiencies like crazy especially with magnesium Jasper just can't get enough of it uh especially with magnesium um and biotin is in the body wash uh vitamin E one two of the best vitamins for your skin and hair um but as The Story Goes long story short we we come up with this brand that represents so many things um but I think winning in everyday life whether you're the valedictorian whether you are the high school jock whether you're philanthropist now you have a product that you can embody and wear every single day that's increasing your vitamin intake that is less harmful to you that's where the idea came from and just being the winning formula in category uh went to Walmart pitched them the whole idea they [ __ ] loved it helped us build the brand even and come up with the scent profiles and all the things that are the the most popular um and this has been something I've wanted to do for so long we had to bring in the best people to be a part of it the winners in their category and that's number one Numero Uno sha Ali here um and he instantly saw the vision and already in the past couple of days it's been like super fun filming all the content behind yeah I was pumped when you [ __ ] called me appreciate you thinking of me and uh excited to help grow this business [ __ ] it's needed it's needed we're going to take over the whole bathroom you know tooed if you [ __ ] with the dogs and cows and chickens dog in you I know what I got that dog in me and I use it so be dog free baby am I missing anything with that no I think that was great the one the one thing I would touch on and you did in a way but it's it is body wash it is body spray it is deodorant but it also is there's an ethos that stands behind this brand which is the ethos that you stand for and it's the ethos that you stand for and the ethos that you stand for and the one that I stand for if I say ethos again I'm GNA start stumbling over my words but it's it's it's like you said it it doesn't the winners in life aren't just you you're on a big stage in life you're you're you're crushing it in every aspect financially you're a star you're leading your sport that's awesome on every [ __ ] level it's it's an encouragement to to young men all around the world to [ __ ] get up off their ass and get sh it don't matter if you score high on a test you whatever the [ __ ] it is that you do well maybe not so it matters what the [ __ ] you do but it also doesn't matter what the [ __ ] you do anybody is a winner as long as you put in the work and you have the will to win and I love it I I would say that's wrong I would say that not anybody is a winner and I think that's something that the brand also stands for like you really got to win you got to as you have the will to win no I'm just saying I think that's an important point cuz we live in a world today where a lot of people think everybody can be a winner that's not true if you Los you might be a loser and if you're a loser the good news is there's a hidden l in the logo actually we'll trace it for you with our graphic design team there's a hidden l in the logo because and I I I wanted to make sure that was was a thing because the biggest loss of my life turned out to be the biggest W in my life and I always had the saying like two L's make a w and when I lost to Tommy Fury it was embarrassing all these things but I realized I wasn't focused I wasn't as locked in as I could be the team around me from a boxing standpoint wasn't good I was having personal issues with relationships and all of these things that I had to shed and grow from and I grew into this new and completely different person but I wouldn't have done that if I didn't lose on the biggest stage possible and I think that was part of the ethos ethos ethos ethos of the brand was to encourage people that in their lowest moments to turn those into into their biggest W's eventually when Jake just said that the biggest loss of his life ended up being the biggest W of his life you said same yeah yeah same what what was that story for supposedly lost for lost to Cheeto back in 2020 August it it was I mean it sucked at the time but I it didn't suck too bad because I was like okay I didn't lose because I you know and it was different I wasn't I mean I was focused everything went good training camp everything was good but I was like that sucks I'm goingon to get that back someday when the time is right and then my last fight two two months ago in Miami headline I'm the champ defending my belt against that same guy how rewarding was that three and a half years later August three and a half years later boom beat his ass as a fan of yours it made it so sweet because of all the doubters that constantly like put you down and didn't believe in you and said he was going to destroy you and then you he literally like you embarrass him that was a performance of a life you embarrassed the [ __ ] out of him and I think that's literally a prime example of turning l l into into a w and I really that's what that's where the hidden l in the brand in the logo is um and representing that every single day when you see these products in your bathroom and when we say we have a saying it's not just a product it's a lifestyle absolutely trademarked Incorporated All Rights Reserved 2024 brother uh but but yeah man it's it's an honor to have you a part of this and uh we we really made what we think are the best products on the market from the body wash being exfoliating vitamin infused to the body spray what we found out is a lot of these fragrances like you get like these high-end designer brands that have like $500 colognes turns out it only cost them a dollar to make that and they're literally making like $499 on top of that so we had a fine fragrance house is what these places are called and we got the super expensive scents and gave it to people to what they're worth like we're not trying to these products are super super affordable and I think it's so funny because that's the world we live in where like you just label something and get like a European girl to go this is one of the lower priced men's care products on the market yeah if I'm not mistaken and it's it's the $500 fragrance in the affordable bottle because we want everyone we've been using a body wash in the past two days since we got the samples after the shoot and I personally want to say I got the in there you could bleep it out whatever you want to do W's winning n b genuinely that's that's the saying is the it's winning formula cuz it really is like it really is if if we're going to call our company [ __ ] W it has to be the best we the winners winning product indeed indeed winning customers all that type of [ __ ] indeed better Derek today he's just got a punch I'm not Li I talked to him before he left he wants to punch you up bro he's got a punchable face I like him though it's weird it's like God I like that guy but I want [ __ ] KO pick him up and like it's okay boom one more to the liing me earlier and I'm just letting you know don't shoot the messenger on God he said he wants to get in the ring with you I can call him really he oh yeah he he you want to call him yeah where is he at is wait uh no call no call he's coming up oh um he's talking smack he said he actually wants a spar I swear to God he said he wants to get percentage should I go you guys I literally out let that's crazy timeing saying talk [ __ ] to my face if you're going to talk [ __ ] that's crazy timing what were you saying they were telling me you want to get in the ring and Spar bit or they didn't say Spar they said fight yeah I'm down to do either but uh yeah no I'm just sick of the [ __ ] [ __ ] you've been saying on your podcast uh you called me you made fun of my weight and you called me gay I did not no I well okay okay you said that he wouldn't ever say that what you got to say what your chest that's what I just [ __ ] said bro I he was like oh if I if stand on it you talking to him you talking to him you ain't talking to me my assistant Sono would would piece you he's never boxed a day he never I'm here to fight your video I'm here to fight you what did I what was the first thing I said to you when when I saw you what was the first thing I said to you that we could fight no I said you look thick wait but when we were talking earlier weren't you saying he's a [ __ ] and you wanted to get a ring with him and all type [ __ ] what I'm saying right now say it then I just said the [ __ ] ring so we can after this we have a ring 2 feet away and he's a [ __ ] and whatever else you was saying to me yeah he's [ __ ] what about my hair say something about my hair I I already said that at the W shoot that you look like you haven't showered in [ __ ] a week okay all right d hey buddy hey hey what's your long-term play not no but see you guys you guys are making me seem crazy you're out of your mind he Derek Dereck go warm up hit the hit the heavy back H the warm up is almost listen legendary as send location dble PIV go warm up hey hey double pivot sit sit I'm not [ __ ] no I I'll sit and talk but I'm not [ __ ] no sit on the floor walk you want to take my seat hey how much how much of what's going on ch ch how much of what's going on is is a character versus like actual delusion how much is a character yeah decent uh I would say there are times where I know what I have to do for my boxing career to like like we all why is he laughing cuz you said career I beat your [ __ ] boy your [ __ ] [ __ ] bro you know what I I recall you did beat I recall calling steiny saying what the [ __ ] was that buddy I love steiny but I do remember watching that and thinking I wasn't proud of that I was not proud of that from steiny and I wish I wish he would come to the gym I wish he'd get in there I wish he'd train a little bit and I wish he would have a rematch but that's on him I've been trying to get the rematch but he's been ding me do you think Derek won he said I won I thought I thought he won I'd have to rewatch but I do think I come on baby the comments have [ __ ] dragged me for months after that [ __ ] 99% of the comments say I lost so please say it one more time Sean no I said it what I said it's like therapy or something no but to answer your question uh we all know uh uh as Fighters there's a side of promotion stop [ __ ] first of all Gus shut the [ __ ] up our our audio guys uh like can't stop laughing is that the facial his facial hair or is what he's saying bro that's bold of you to talk facial hair bro that's bold of you to I'm not Li you look dirty you look like Jeffrey done training right Jesus I train every day but anyway we know like there's two sides of of promotion as well as the actual athletic competition that is Combat Sports so there are times where I might play up a little bit like hey promoting but let him go let him go all right if you if all if you think I'm all promoting that I'll see you in the [ __ ] ring and I'll knock both you either of you out well um well Jake's a [ __ ] fat [ __ ] right now he weighs like 240 so I got I goty I gotta pick my words wisely like he's Jake's 240 I I know I know but like I'm not going to sit here and pick a fight against somebody that's 240 when I'm se's my weight class when I stopped you in one round like just like but when I was getting started out of come this is where I'm at since then I told him he could have somebody tag team I'm down I'm down to fight anybody in this [ __ ] room not one person in this room I'm the best part about this is like uh right after this we I think you're you're down to do like one round or three minutes right I mean I'd prefer 12 but we okay yeah 12 I mean that my biggest advantage in the ring ring is my cardio I do 12 12 okay so no I have a genuine question so five round I'm not I'm not one have I ever said I'm a UFC fighter no I'm just say we can box I'm just saying that's I'm used to five you want to do three we could do that aren't you trying to be a boxer with your [ __ ] Ryan Garcia call he would knock knock your [ __ ] ass out so quickly it wouldn't be close I'm one and0 pro boxing what are you actually I saw that video I saw video I'm also want to know thank you officially hey they count that's real commiss but uh I didn't mean I didn't mean to take I didn't mean to take over the pot I just wanted to a couple you definitely didn't yeah okay I try I'm trying to help you no we love you go warm up yeah yeah go warm up the bags don't warm up too much though don't get tired how much do you wa right now without Timberlands and jean shorts on high 120 low 13 no without lying though okay that [ __ ] is you think you got you got him one round I think I could beat him I think I can beat him I I think I could handicap myself to three just put on one glove I could do that what do you think actually happens now when you go downstairs and he gets in that ring like what's his plan that's what I don't get about him but that's why it's that's do me a favor that's why he's Cloud it up because love [ __ ] up [ __ ] he's going he's going to try to Yap he's going to try to talk please just go 100% yeah no actually actually please go 100% if he signs a consent form we'll have him no we've already got like multiple consent forms for better media with like death wavers [ __ ] no no no but he needs it he needs that I'll go like 40 no go like 75 Sean I'm I'm going to be honest bro don't even go 20% he's the nice [ __ ] bro don't do that bro you want him to go 100% no no to be honest but just like work with him and then just like maybe just just like a really good punching and then he'll give up 75% uh I'm nervous man I'm shaking for Derek yeah yeah that's good I understand that there a couple flinches if you Flinch hard enough the the wind coming off you will put him down let him walk you down and bait him boom sleeping what's your next upcoming fight a maraba jaaba and when is that uh not nothing yet I'm hoping for September maybe October maybe November maybe December I'm F ready to go baby what if it was next month I wouldn't be ready to go I like I like 10 to 12 weeks 10 to 12 he likes eight I mean I I normally do like 10 yeah just like but I've been super the first few weeks are [ __ ] pre-amps this Camp I'm channeling my Ryan Garcia would you ever do a Ryan Garcia regiment during Camp drink and smoke every night you do a little I I probably yeah I'm not actually doing that for the people out there he's locked in clocked in locked in locked in ready to go yeah May 20th we start but by the time the people see this it'll be uh June or something like that that is crazy you're fighting Mike that you fought Ben asran wrestler good good [ __ ] UFC was really good UF bit Tyron Woodley twice Anderson Silva knockout of the year with Nate Robinson can't forget about deji deji the the the goat do we say Gibb or is that like that's just crazy resume like literally [ __ ] C by way thank you Gib cuz we had a really good party after he knocked you the [ __ ] out who W we're skipping two professional boxers this always no no the recent ones this always happens I'm trying to just think cuz two cuz this is what everybody asked for this is what everybody asked for who who are the two professional boxers you fighted you got to name them Andre August and Ryan Borland go okay people don't people are like fight a pro boxer and then I do and then they're like that was boring as a man of combat he what were 10 and one nine and one nine and one what is your take on his [ __ ] all of his fights and who he's fighting in the competition dude I've been excited as [ __ ] since I started I remember you I remember the first time I watched was the Nate Robinson I watched that one at home and then uh I don't remember what it was after that but I remember watching Ben Asam in Atlanta I think that was the first time we actually met was right after the fight I think we hugged I was like y I picked you up you carried me back to the locker room that it was love at first sight that was crazy actually yeah actually I [ __ ] with him we became best friends like a couple days later you going to leave me hanging no no I would it's my eyebrow but uh yeah no I think he's obviously super skilled I think it's and I I it's inspired me even in the position I'm at UFC World Champ sexy you know what I mean like tall dark handsome TR inspired me just business the business uh side of things that you've done I've always thought putting on massive fight that's why I'm such a huge Conor fan cuz the pay-per-views he's done is so [ __ ] he's been fighting for four years and [ __ ] that he's been doing the massive fights the fights I get excited for there's a few UFC fights the high the big big fights that I get excited for but every time you fought even when uh Logan fought Floyd I was [ __ ] like excited like all fight week so i' I've been inspired from what you've done from a business side from the boxing side they even just start so not late but for a boxer but these boxers start when they're [ __ ] three four years old like Ryan and tank like they're young buck the Tik Tac I sent you of Devon Haney's debut fight yeah it's wild he was fighting a five foot Mexican in a in a bar was it Dante bro if I show you this [ __ ] oh no I did see that I did see that I did see that when you started even seeing that first video fighting Anderson Silva six fights in bro like do you know how insane that is he's one of the greatest correct me if I'm wrong UFC Strikers in history yeah 100% so does that make me one of the greatest UFC Strikers and one of the greatest wrestlers cuz wood but Ben ask was but Nate Diaz is ducking me in MMA oh am crazy I am weak that's a sick fight MMA I I wish it was that would happened right after the boxing same he's actually ducking it which is why it's crazy because he's not he's not in UFC no but we we upped it to 15 million damn that's crazy though that would be a I like Nate Diaz but that would be such a fun buildup he actually doesn't want to do it all Sean how do you genuinely Jake's not here it's me and you in a room actually how do you see that fight going for Jake what MMA him you're not here J for Nate in MMA keep it a bean God it's it's so hard to you're a big [ __ ] right now on what weight would it be5 185 I don't hate I don't I it's not a it's a winable fight for you I really do think that but Nate is so [ __ ] you would have to do what I did against aljo and morab do not let that [ __ ] grab you not that you can't wrestle cuz I know you can wrestle but once he starts grabbing you and doing Jiu-Jitsu if he gets on top his little he likes his little trips it would be hard for you to win I feel like if he if he started grappling just pure Jiu-Jitsu if it let's be real if it goes to the floor is he [ __ ] if he's on his back Nate's not like a super strong guy so if you learn how to like I mean I'm sure you know how to get up to a single legegg stuff like that but then you start getting your neck grabbed I don't know how much Jiu-Jitsu you know I mean Nate's a [ __ ] high Lev black belt um if you could keep it standing 100% there's winnable ways there if he if he went to the ground feel like he might be able to grab your neck no that that's exactly how I feel about it if I don't get guillotined yeah then I win the fight because even if he was on top take your back but even if he was on top of me I would just throw him off of me cuz he's also the weakest puncher I've ever fought like when he was hitting me I was I almost like started laughing I'm I'm not even saying this to talk [ __ ] out of everyone I've sparred in my whole entire life and everyone I fought his punches are even me we I don't think you ever landed a punch on me is that true well that's not true so I don't anyone no I'm literally not even talking [ __ ] which is why I think it's funny that he dropped Connor and [ __ ] cuz it's just like how Conor with like to the ground yeah like with a straight left hand yeah which is crazy like I I'm not just talking [ __ ] when I say that and I've told you I've literally told you this you told me this after the fight yeah I was like he is the weakest puncher I've ever fought in my life who's who's the weakest puncher you've ever you've ever come to face um there I mean there's been so many fights where I later didn't even get hit um uh does that like make you jaded at all when you get into a fight and you don't really get love that [ __ ] I prefer not to get hit at all but like if I was you and I wasn't get hit at all I'd probably work less no no no no I I know I don't get hit because I work that hard so if I didn't work hard I know I'd probably get hit I'm just a lazy [ __ ] so so here you are on top of the world we're launching [ __ ] W going to be a billion dollar business [ __ ] you I always forget uh UFC champ accomplishing all your goals what do you want next uh what are what is the threeyear fiveyear for Sean I I truly do want to get a boxing fight I'm not I'm not super set on that to where like I'm like going to be [ __ ] if it doesn't happen I do think it'll be interesting especially if I go out there knock morab out Ryan does his thing I think there's a [ __ ] sweet fight there if it doesn't happen not that worried about it want to go out there beat morab I'd like to you know if Max Max and Elia fight I would like to fight go move up to 45 fight the winner of that um you know maybe have three to five maybe have a few more kids definitely want another little baby I love kids my fite pump him out shout out to Danny who's your top pick in a boxing fight though if you if you could choose your Ryan now was like the I mean what he after dvon Beat Ryan I was like javante then Ryan goes out there does his thing really though I think Dante do you is that is that not a big [ __ ] leap Ryan like you said before he's been doing this his whole life one thing that's been proven is that the crossover it's it's not a good return Fury he did his thing okay the excep is the exception we've seen it with okay but then Anthony Joshua put his ass t was crazy super night night he was I'm I'm here for big fights like I wanted to get into the UFC and I wanted to make big fights watching Conor versus Floyd I'm like that [ __ ] happened really happened hey you versus Derek that could be as big as Connor in Floyd but no but I I think the craziest [ __ ] about Conor versus Floyd is that overall it was a W for everyone involved so there's certain fights where it just like doesn't matter what happens that's the world we live in yeah I mean UFC told me they said if the if the fight's big enough and it'll make the UFC money they'll do it what means more to you your your your record being pre or the amount of money you're making all right let me ask you something it's about to get real J's drunk Jasper's drunk as [ __ ] y record or money [ __ ] it depends the Gap like like the gap of money if it's like an extra 10 15 20 million but I lose a couple important fights probably not you just take like 150 million I'll be like like [ __ ] my record baby yeah it depends on the gap of money Jake Paul is not here right now just like a Mayweather Conor McGregor you taking that fight ver Jake yeah no he's my buddy I could I mean I don't I don't even no I no funny no there's you know what's funny is always in my Snapchat story once once a day pretty much someone says we knock out Jake Paul like there's every sing all the time for so long people just want to see me get [ __ ] is good though that's like the thing yeah but I'm sensitive it is funny though people [ __ ] love to hate confidence the craziest thing though actually about both of you like I met you very recently like I didn't realize you're as like normal as you are I don't know why I thought you violent like you guys are both like very goofy mellow and stupid and c and and awesome it's like the greatest thing ever like I couldn't believe when I met you you're like one of us like yeah I wouldn't think you're a [ __ ] yeah one of the coolest people in the world for sure yeah but not a lot of people uh can like I don't know we have like a weird it's hard toes Meat Heads I'm like this the this my dog I think it's a little bit of dark humor too it's like some [ __ ] up [ __ ] that we say off camera [ __ ] sometimes but I think it's like there's a certain yeah like that's how my whole group is back home it's like we all just we're all just kind of [ __ ] dumb I'm smart but like they're dumb well someone commented like yo Jake Paul's the dumbest genius in the world and I was just like I say that [ __ ] all the time you wed up the other day and I was like this is the most genius dumbass in the world no jokes Hey Brother chill buddy trying to get me cancelled no what how old are you 23 are you really yeah no you're not he's not is he what do you think think what did you think Oh no you're 267 27 what did you think he was I thought he was older I thought he was like 27 26 yeah a niggaer mature was that ladies you got a boo you got a girl you just be slanging she timeout right now I don't really talk about she don't time out it's a little tricky she not taking care of herself what do you guys think about Tom Brady R you watch it yeah they kept comp panning to you every 5 Seconds bro I swear there's a huge camer sitting there the whole time but it's cool to see Netflix going hard like that cuz they went hard they swing that meat around huha yeah let's pivot yeah just sorry about him I'm drunk man not yeah but but it was it was great it wasar they should have got rid of most of the football players going up there yeah there's a couple ones Ben afflac is that who that was on there that was wild that was so weird that was so weird it was cool to see how [ __ ] less sensitive people are becoming I feel like feel like it's recently like there's a big push back I think people got sick of it we went super super super PC for a long time people were like wait a second we like being able to say what we want to say I saw kill Tony say oh type of crazy [ __ ] on there that watch every [ __ ] Monday you were on kill Tony yeah how old are you actually buddy I'm a comedian Budd full time no yeah I was on that I was nervous as hell though I was like just being it's a live I do podcast once a week like me and Tim do our podcast every [ __ ] week but to be there in front of an audience live it's weird it's a different kind of well so you say Tim but let's let's talk about actually the fact that you get trained by by one of the greatest boxers of all time it's really that's something what's happened like that's crazy working with Canelo as your as your coach that's what I'm saying people don't going to be Ryan but like yeah that is true I never even thought about that for did you even know that this guy proba even know that that orange [ __ ] is nice wait will I get cancelled by the ginger community no you're black oh no my dad my dad's Ginger and I'm I'm like this [ __ ] is ginger bro he be shaving he be shaving his beard and I zoom in zoom in it's it's slightly orange so I'm a quarter ginger on South Park they made fun of Gingers and that [ __ ] made the news I [ __ ] with the ginger people but like y'all [ __ ] you like redhead girls oh yeah was Super Soaker but anyway yeah like y'all [ __ ] is orange and that's okay but back to you one of y'all that's not drunk I got a question cuz this guy clipped out a lot did Tim actually like you guys about him like saying to fight that was yeah that was real Tim always be talking [ __ ] to the like he's been doing that for so long so what happened he just talk I mean he just he Alo the knee's coming Alo you got to shoot Alo watch out for this like he's been saying that since I've been in the UFC like my debut vers terion where he was talking [ __ ] to terion too and uh he just does it every fight but this happened to just be crazy timing to like Tim you got Tim like alre you got to go and like literally he he like that's when he threw that left hand or whatever stepped into Southpaw and uh or stepped into Orthodox and got dropped it was it was funny the timing because he's like Al you got to go I don't I truly don't think that's why that's not why Alo went I bet you could I bet Alo didn't even hear that but Tim's always chirping and stuff but people on the internet are [ __ ] mad about that a lot of them actually like it I'll say majority of people are thinking that's the funniest [ __ ] ever there's a couple [ __ ] that are like you should be banned think it's a fight would you run the alra fight back or one and done never I like that why would I yeah am I supposed to top that you know what I'm saying I got love for Alo we had him on the show and he he seems like a good dude I actually don't mind Alo I does that ever happen where like you'll have a personal relationship with someone personal runin with them and it's all great but then now all of a sudden you have to fight each other I've never had I've not of running with someone that's been like uh more than like I've ran into aljo morab at the UFC I'm like hey what's up talk to him a little bit you know nothing no ill will um but I haven't had like a run with someone I actually lik them mhm and then at the fight them so you're not friends with any any other UFC fighters oh I have a there's there's a couple guys in my in my weight class that I train with at the lab that are like climbing the r uh ladders what happened with uh the 125 pounder I I don't even know his name and I'm not I'm just not like yeah what's his name I Alexander pania bro this story is actually kind of funny so 2016 I think it was it was like 3 and0 4 and0 and I was still fighting at like I fought at 125 not too long before that I fought at like 130 which is in a weight class was like so I wasn't like a 155 like I am now I was probably like 14 back then and uh Henry cejudo comes in I'm three or four and0 at the point at this point it comes in with this kid Alexander PTO just won The Ultimate Fighter I think he's got his UFC debut or it's his second UFC fight he's a couple weeks out from his fight I'm [ __ ] the night before me and Tim ripping bongs like hanging out being goofballs and [ __ ] so the next morning so we brought him in for sparring hry sudo brings in Alexander you're 4-0 he's King [ __ ] he he's just won The Ultimate Fighter and so they write the names on on the board who who you're sparring I'm like oh [ __ ] I got Alexander Pantoja versus me for one round one round he has three rounds so you write one one name then usually you you spar with one guy then they go out you spar with a fresh guy they go out spar with the fresh guy that's usually how it works so my name was just up there for one round that's it we Spar one round I didn't know anything about him cuz I I didn't really watch it like that 25 I don't really watch 25ers like that but somebody's like oh [ __ ] that's he a black belt he just won The Ultimate Fighter I was like oh [ __ ] I got to [ __ ] Focus up here first round boom Dro him with a liver kick and I wasn't going to post I record all my rounds I have so many sparring rounds like I wasn't going to post it was and for some reason I don't know why he would talk [ __ ] and bring it up cuz I literally I don't know you know know I don't know if you know how it works but you finish a guy the fight's over right no no did he um so I finished him the first round he hit him boom with the liver I posted the video yesterday and I've had it for a long time I didn't want to post it CU you don't post sparring like that but he just kept bringing it up so boom finished him first round um then uh after the first round round I go to walk out and Henry's over there crying box of Kleenex just like [ __ ] wiping his tears crying we want you for a second round so mad that this little like I was nobody just finished his dude he's in the UFC he's supposed to be the man finish him in the first round so Henry's crying saying he wants another round um so I piece him up again in the second round and I'm I'm dying at this point my lungs are burning I'm not in shape for fight I I'm nowhere near in Camp for a fight and I my lungs are hurting and uh Henry again crying blowing his nose and like I want you for a third and Benson comes in Benson Henderson absolute Legend comes in and was yelling cuz that's his it was the his gym the MMA lab we don't let people come in our gym and make us tired and blah blah blah and I'm [ __ ] just just huffing and puffing I just got done work in this dude for 10 minutes finished him in the first round did I say that liver kick um we'll put the footage I have the foot yeah it's right there insert the footage so third round come out boom piece him up again and he's so I don't know why he keeps bringing up this bringing this up in the media I think it's because people ask him but I don't know why he doesn't just say yeah yeah no no I don't want to talk about it he keeps saying like he's like oh I got in I found his range and [ __ ] I'm like bro you you stopped him in one round stopped him in round one and let him live and continue to fight for round two these delusional uh like wild people are weirdos but the reason I posted cuz he kept bringing it up exactly wait so is he the champ now at 125 yeah okay but why does he still want to talk [ __ ] to you if you got [ __ ] up that's what I'm saying I don't know either either you drop to 125 and get that no I can't drop to 125 that's too much now you're a thick [ __ ] I am a thick but yeah I SP I think it's important for up and cominging Spar uh fighters to record their rounds and watch their rounds not for that this reason you know but just to I've improve so much watching my sparring y I have thousands of rounds maybe not thousands hundreds of rounds from 10 years ago on my on my computer of uh it's like NFL team is watching footage the time [ __ ] 100% got to watch that [ __ ] that's I I have every single round recorded and and again I I don't post sparring either exactly you know put in a highlight video make a vlog boom we're sparring people but it's never like [ __ ] up your guy yeah exactly but Mike Perry honestly like what he's been doing is pretty Fu he went to Bare knuckle that [ __ ] just meant for him bare knuckle fighting it's crazy different going crazy he's doing good he's [ __ ] undefeated over there he's beating some really good guys stay over here [ __ ] [ __ ] only place that you should be getting tickets from is game time.co it's it's the only place I go it is the only place you can possibly go they have 110% price match guarantee that's what we use to get our tickets for the NBA Finals you can get $20 off your first order go to gametime.co JJ a $20 off your first order they're doing a deal specifically for y'all and you could see where your tickets are before you buy them seeing the seats they have all of the these great policies last 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platform there is Mike Paul versus Jake Tyson here's my official prediction tell us and even if even if it's against me like it's not it's not I do think you're going to beat Mike Tyson uh it's crazy that I even saying that out loud right now cuz you're fighting Mike Tyson it's [ __ ] crazy even just when we were walking down the the street today people all genders all ages knew you were fighting Mike Tyson it's such a massive fights live on Netflix which is [ __ ] crazy it's in a stadium which is [ __ ] crazy it is crazy I believe in you I see what you I see what you're doing I see you know that you believe in yourself Mike Tyson is uh hasn't fought in however long it's been so for him to just come up and get a fight be I I'm sure is going to be in as good a shape as he possibly could be in but it's just you know it's it's it's it's not his time right now I love Mike Tyson I never actually met him but I love Mike Tyson I do think Jake's gonna get the job done and I do think eight rounds eight two-minute rounds eight two-minute rounds I believe I believe you could put them away in the later rounds you know five six seven eight I do think you could put it put him down which is crazy to even [ __ ] think you rap yeah that's fire I'm just lazy and inconsistent that's not a w no that sh it is not you start using Brandon yell at him every day but cuz you can actually spit that's fire no but but people know him now from like podcasting they don't know he's a rapper and hurts his soul J sick name Lil jizz what J JZ that's good that's good you should switch your [ __ ] I switch my [ __ ] from come Master to kill Jas bro honestly though that's I think singing rapping spitting is one of the things that if I could switch talents be doing something like that that's good or twerking I ain't going to lie you shook that [ __ ] earlier I got a I got a thing on me you that [ __ ] wiggle a little bit let's let's pivot though cuz yep hit a pivot uh yeah do we have a speaker should we play Jasper's new song or something you got a new one I thought you were lazy some new [ __ ] go ahead play on your phone just put it in the speaker put it in the mic too this the [ __ ] I'm dropping when I'm Indie that sound decent I'm not rapping either I'm yapping that's not going to get you drunk yo I made this beat that's crazy I like the way you look I won't lie you got something I need you my with a fly girl like you doing with no guy a little sh don't really go outside I'm not crazy right place and right time you all smiles and pretty light brown [Music] [Music] like that better if I forget you but I just can't time saying do better and I'm sure you can find that guy that's worth all right cut it cut it cut it that's that's enough that's enough that's enough that's enough for real can't give the whole thing it's not out yet yeah hey good [ __ ] that's fire I'll be rapping though but that's some pop [ __ ] just cuz I can do it so why are you consistent cuz I'm lazy and jaded and and spoiled yeah it's unfortunate maam shout out to the homies for a lot of talented people out there that just are yeah don't smoke crack yo also there there is a parallel there don't do don't do that there's a parallel with the same thing he's talking about I think Fighters probably where it's like you could have all the talent in the world he's got that's why I get so [ __ ] mad at him it's cuz he has all the talent in the world really I get more pissed off than he gets and he could be a superstar but he just is lazy he doesn't put the work in he's not he's not strategic and it is hard when you got when you live in a crib in Puerto Rico right you got chefs and [ __ ] and you fly private with me yeah that's it that's it bro that's it you got to you got get paychecks and [ __ ] y'all got to evict me that's not a bad idea honestly I think we talked about it let's make I was I'm H we had a conversation but I just can't I can't because I love you so much I need you but then I'll probably be more like need you y yeah I guarante and then we you would still have to like fly in once a week to to do the pods and it would be resentment and then I I'll go out like and I'll try to start shooting at y'all oh my God I guarantee I would be in the position I'm in if I if I had money and like had already made it like financially had [ __ ] I wouldn't have made it that's why people think I'm crazy but CC the other side of it is like boom right so I'm from com California same hey shout out my [ __ ] yeah man I was homeless for the first half of my life mom's a drug addict dad's a gang member I've never had anything in my life right and my whole life has been music I dropped out in ninth grade I was like I'm going to make music my dad kicks me out he's like you can't live under this roof like be more like your brothers my brothers are [ __ ] star students one got a full ride scholarship loser all all type of [ __ ] nerd ass [ __ ] all those [ __ ] are fat and unemploy now one dropped out of school a full rise scholarship and is just sitting at home right so boom from having nothing to like me saying I'm going to risk everything that I have in my life to become a music artist and it works I get to a certain place and I'm like damn I did exactly I hit a ceiling right so it's like now I had to recalibrate he got a big record deal and then and then like use I crashed out and became a m addict for four four days a week for 30 like 90 days oh it's not bad but then I moved cuz my homeboy was like you need to move and I was like nah [ __ ] that I made a million I ain't going to move I'm going to maintain this lifestyle I'm a junkie but I'm rich yep I crashed out and was like yeah I need to move lost 60 lbs went to Puerto Rico locked in recalibrated and now I'm ready to be but that's that's here's the problem we run into now is that you've recalibrated and now it's still it's been 6 months the album's supposed to be 6 months ago and we're still waiting for the album that's the problem and that's what you got to work on never too late though let's start it let's get because you're vitamin deficient right yeah yeah cuz like a lot of people can't think straight when they're vitamin deficient and all that a week ago kind of elaborated on that so yeah this isn't therapy um I got shout out Suzie right right huh Susie but she's hot is she not you think my therapist you guys got the same one I could pee and vape on this podcast I got to go pee go pee I could pee yeah I mean I think we I think we end the episode because uh let's wrap it up you can get W available at Walmart anyway if you walk into Walmart whether you with your mom your daddy you by yourself you go in that [ __ ] men body care aisle you buy that and comment down below what you thought of the episode for um us being brain fried over and uh jper but Buzz also comment cuz this coming out when the product releases comment your favorite scent and sent $10,000 right no I'm send you 1,000 I ain't got 10,000 for you but I'll send you 1,000 I'll send someone 10,000 he'll send you 10,000 I'll send you a th000 and I'm going through the comments for sure anyway good luck Charlie and if you got a test soon good luck on that [ __ ] that's what we [Music] do what are those 8 O gloves I want you to know they were talking up there he ain't going easy so be ready all right legit be ready buddy I'm using these bags don't show Too Much don't show we're boxing we're boxing I don't I do that on accident sometimes just know that that might come up just keep your hands up I'm just saying I might throw that up I haven't knocked someone out in a while just cuz my last fight didn't go off it went off five rounds I've been like craving just putting someone's lights out lately it's weird versus your boy better Derek I I hope Sean isn't nice and just [ __ ] him up that's your that's your trainee [ __ ] D all righty folks welcome to your main event of the evening starting out first in the loser corner you have better day with a record of no wins no losses I beat ste's [ __ ] out no anything he is 5'7 120 lbs lost in the mile to better JoJo but he's still delusional in his fighting career and to my left in the winning Corner sponsored by W sugar sha Ali The Undefeated UFC champion of the world it's time to fight bring it to the center we already spoke about the rules in the locker room beforehand give me your glove give me your hand touch gloves I want a clean fair fight no no hits below the waist back to your Corners time you ready judge you ready and fight [Music] [Applause] I'm out of balance or something oh do Dodge that [ __ ] hold on hold on hold on hold [ __ ] come on come on just oh my God one back of the head no no no back of the head four ref didn't see it five six me in the eyes Walk This Way Walk This Way for me he's running Walk This Way for me my car run all right and we're in in that right that's called all right time time time one two that was a that was a slip four up six bro Rizo what the [ __ ] are you doing all right get up SLP all right come on time in come on got come on got you [ __ ] black I'm going to I need to work I need to see some work black UT D somebody said 10 seconds like 8 seconds ago all right great back to your corner back to your corner back to your corner stay in there you're doing good right now this feel good I feel good do you see that one I landed clean on his face I think we all terrible shut the [ __ ] up for once in your [ __ ] life shut the [ __ ] up Sean's doing half punches on him shut up I'll act like uh no don't act like bro I'm just I'm putting in work all right how this how you when you [ __ ] beat the old wash UFC fighters everybody comments you're fighting old was UFC fighters what do you think 10s I think they're right in in round two round two round two oh got him [ __ ] oh [Music] [ __ ] hey put that hey that that's a that's going to be a 10 count can't get me by the that's going to be a 10 count that's going to be a 10 count next time back in the just there going to be a 10 count next time get in there give me real quick get him with some you thank you perfect okay BL I'm going to need to see some more one two back to your corner white Corner neutral Corner 5 6 seven eight n look at me thank you bro come on you want to fight do you want to fight when I do you want to fight yes yeah wait wait time back in wake up time time time time time I promise okay it's to the floor the rules of transfer to MMA tap tap tap he's St he's T he's ta all right I block out all right you're good to go wait wait the fight was over get the [ __ ] out of the ring oh it's over it's over it's over it's over go you got it's over it's over it's over [Music]	round round I go to walk out and Henry's over there crying box of Kleenex just like [ __ ] wiping his tears crying we want you for a second round so mad that this little like I was nobody just finished his dude he's in the UFC he's supposed to be the man 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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXPZ1KzdpsY	4,103	mXPZ1KzdpsY	2024-06-20 00:00:00	well well well ladies and gentlemen do we have a special episode for you today none other than sugar Shan om Ali the current UFC bantamweight champion a legend in his own right this episode was off the cusp we were a little turned up Jasper was really really drunk so we weren't really prepared for this at all the conversations definitely got wild and obviously as you guys have seen over maybe the past week or so we launched a new company called w am men's carine in Walmart this company is so near and dear to my heart and I partnered with Shawn to bring this Vision to life amongst other celebrities artists and athletes that we are announcing over the next couple of weeks here get your w at Walmart it is very very very very very good stuff and yes you heard the news I am fighting Mike Perry on July 20th it is going down I'm still fighting Mike Tyson November 15th that is happening but I'm staying active knocking out Mike Perry on July 20th and I'm excited for y'all to listen to this episode and he the vision of w how it all came together and how Shawn got involved and then everything to do with Shawn's career this podcast has been a long time coming but prepare yourself for some idiocracy per usual uh this is [ __ ] with Jake Paul we have a secret handshake check it out AC let me get that stop playing mean yeah we created that because we actually have so many things to get into here this has been a long time coming Jasper did bring up something and the reason W was created was because the other products in the category had harmful dyes parabens sulfates hormone disruptors and so we wanted to create the better for you vitamin infused product and and Sean's a co-owner just signed today yesterday for the show but we we'll get into all of that we we've been you know bringing sea on for like we've been talking for like a month and a half yes sir yes sir um it is currently May we've been doing a lot of shoots this podcast will probably come out at post W launch you can get I'm so drunk I'm sorry y'all you can get it in uh Walmart every Walmart you in Paca Walmart get it in you in Pensacola it's in Walmart in Kentucky Walmart Walmart so basically uh we we brought in the greatest people in the world to help build W and Sean is one of those people but dialing everything back we will get into the company the body washes how this all came about but uh we've been wanting to do this podcast and thanks for joining us BR hey guys hey thanks for joining us right did you uh yeah I did you sh for an hour bro did you did you do do we know do we set the stage of the day and the fact that Jasper's slash right now okay cool y drunk is a [ __ ] y like double drunk yep yep yep you drunk yeah all that so um but just winding everything back uh I think we've been friends for a long time in fact you were the first guest on this show oh [ __ ] crazy Zoom crazy that's right that's right that's right the first ever episode you zoomed in and that's crazy we're thankful we're thankful for our friendship and it's pretty cool that now we're here again today uh getting less views than before and that's fire that's it congratulations less views we're not we're not it was it was a joke it was a joke if you watching this please like and comment cuz we falling off right now but man by the time this comes out you're going to be getting ready for me RAB how do you say his name I don't remember morab is iTab or or I don't know me that's got to be it me but you got to say it with the emphasis look meab mirab meab meab there you go there you go so yeah I should be getting ready hopefully I ain't got nothing scheduled hopefully uh you know Uncle Dana will call me say hey buddy you want to fight in in here and there and there and then I'm d b boom and that that's how that works what's up with everybody on your body though everybody talking [ __ ] even people youat I wanted to bring up yeah and he's like saying like he's trying to post about you even yesterday it is weird but when you concuss someone you know what I just say they don't think as well as they used to so I think he's still concussed and he's a little confused because he's talking [ __ ] still he not in his right mind because I can just throw up another post go because it's a throwback Thursday it's a throwback Friday do you think do you think people don't respect you enough cuz I I see that as your friend an unbiased like they just see social media and podcasts and the the hair and stuff like that and then they just sh week but I [ __ ] with you I appr that um I don't think it is well you can't you know I think it's fine I think you're jealous I ain't going to lie I got some inches under here let's smell that hair you can smell my [ __ ] must who I do think I feel a little bit disrespected as the champ but I think that last fight against Che kind of you know shut a little bit of people up canny go five rounds Cheeto beat me before the Alo fight um shut a lot of people up canny grapple didn't have to Grapple cuz he couldn't take me down yeah Alo couldn't take you down I think that was the biggest thing where they were like yo that's his weakness like yeah wrestle him down and then he just proved everyone wrong that's what's so interesting about this morab fight is he's supposedly well he is he's [ __ ] good at wrestling he's really really good at wrestling he's boring as [ __ ] and no one will there won't be one comment saying yeah right he's actually kind of fun not one person I'm com won I'm com you can I ask you something would you put yourself in your own top five Strikers in the UFC oh I'm yeah yo easily who's your Mount Rushmore strikker well I I mean I would unbiasedly I would put him as number one because adna is in like top three but he also like got beat by put that [ __ ] down boy he did uh bro I'm up there I'm up there Max is really good Max super his striking that's a good top five there that's four me Max Elia adaga uh I'm sure I'm missing some your with a one would it be that's that's a minus one Mount rmore is four yeah but I only got four but if you throw the five in it's a plus one isn't there only four yeah but but you ready to throw the five up I'm four all right that's my more but yeah once again uh this is a [ __ ] ass podcast so we apologize hey but something something you just touched on you talked about Fighters being fun and interesting how much and you're you're a superstar how much of you being a superstar how much of any fighter being a superstar comes down to them being fun and interesting as you are and how much of it comes down to their actual fighting good question uh well who's a super who who obviously Connor comes to mind I think he's he's a character he's fun he's interesting who else comes to mind is like a superstar I would say Izzy gives that off I think he's an interesting guy other than that there's not like a ton of fun like Ryan Garcia is doing a really good job right now of being [ __ ] interesting being a character uh I think that's fentel I think it's drugs as well I wouldn't deny that but he's still making people interested in Ryan versus Devon Haney was an interesting fight not because Devon Haney that dude's boring as [ __ ] you think he did them roids no I don't think Ryan did I think Devon needs to take that L he being a [ __ ] about I think the craziest [ __ ] you said to me and like I don't even know if we want to put this in there or bring it up but we we can always remove it but uh because of your your situation with the ostarine and you said to me like and it I like fully felt your energy you're like I swear on my daughter's life I never did that and you got popped for it yeah same thing happened uh to Ryan right now he popped for aost the low super low level a some [ __ ] like a trillionth of a gr the same thing happened to me uh so when that came out with Ryan like I truly truly didn't believe he took anything because it was the same [ __ ] and it happens to a lot of [ __ ] ostarine happens to how does that happen it's called the tainted supplement so if you're taking anything that has protein in it that's not third party tested uh could not just protein any kind of supplement that's not third party tested it's either NSF or there's a bunch of different third party tests but if you're not if you're taking something that doesn't have that there's chances there could be something in it but austram people pop for that all the time my case was not that big of a deal cuz I wasn't as huge of a star as I am now but it still was like a big deal because of my name the reason it's going so crazy right now is because Ryan G is a superstar so people are freaking out but it happens to a lot of athletes I just before we move past it I just on that Superstar topic how is that is that Superstar factor that that someone like you has someone like Ryan has someone like Connor has is it something you're born with or is it is it a practice is it something you can learn and do you sit back and like think like oh how can I go viral today how can I I think it's both I think you have to want to be a superstar there's some guys in the UFC like I want to make more money I want this I want that but they don't really want to be a superstar you you got to want it you got to you got to have some kind of vision a long time before well and and also like who you are as a person you have to have that like Fire Within still though like before you got into want famous I want to be in the NFL I want to be NBA I wanted to be a [ __ ] athlete when I was young was instilled I was just for whatever reason I wanted to make it when I was young I'm from H in Montana like small ass can I ask you something what's your opinion on like the take b nickel takes like where he's like super friendly and humble and like I think he's a sweet ass [ __ ] they love him but like bro that [ __ ] pisses me off I think that [ __ ] is cool too n like you're a hum like [ __ ] talk your [ __ ] you're what 670 like bro talk your [ __ ] like it it kind of bores me no I get yeah I mean that's that's some people's opinion is like he's too nice too humble too that but he's being himself um but he's also super young in the sport I think he and he's still pretty what is he 28 you're in a sport of War if I was playing like [ __ ] Cricket I would be like yeah like but that's that's the thing is for for for a character like him what it seems like is that's what he's in is the sport of war and that's it he's not in the sport of entertainment he's a nice ass sweetheart get there is some people that that understand both sides of things but I also have respect for and I see when someone's that's strictly in the sport of if I play chess with you I'm going to be like good game and I'm going to shake your hand I talk [ __ ] be F ass to a PO it I'm going to be like [ __ ] you you need to get better at whatever you're doing dial dialing it back a little bit um to the aost stream thing I think it's like what do you think about Conor tweeting still at like 3:00 a.m. like coked out he he he he sent shots at me and Ryan talking [ __ ] but it's it's crazy coming from Connor who literally got out of the usada pool to do steroid like legit steroids so it's kind of wild and I was the biggest Connor fan for a long time in the last couple weeks ever since he sent that wasn't even a couple weeks ago probably a week ago I've been trying to hate him I've been trying to be like [ __ ] you Connor but I can't I love Connor I it's like I am excited for his fight coming up I'm excited I want you know I'm all about it what's the fight is it Chandler Chandler in June it's going to be big they just been trying to do it for a long time so I didn't know if it still still I think officially I think it's I think I think the craziest part about it is what like eight weeks before a fight that he's still like coked and drunk out of his mind who you got though who that's a good it is crazy that he still like he tweeted that deleted like 20 minutes later he was definitely [ __ ] up on well that's what I was going to say we can't just Grace past that do you is that that's a that's a bold thing to say do you you know he's on coke is that a is that are you [ __ ] gills I don't know anything but I know for certain that he's brother like look at the time of the tweets and look at what he's saying like also and he's like known for this simar tweets yeah yeah I don't know just manic brother I think he is I do think Ryan is I think he when he said he was playing into it a little bit I I think he's kind of using that I think he's [ __ ] crazy what what what would happen if you and Ryan boxed that's I mean there's only one way to find out he has a lot better chances of beating me in a boxing match than he does in a real fight keep up I do I I [ __ ] I truly believe in myself that's how I got to the [ __ ] position I'm in right now I can box I can throw hands um I don't think it'd be easy by any means I do think it's possible I beat him I'm not saying my my odds are great but I do believe I could beat Ryan Bo if there was anybody you could box for your first boxing match debut who are you Bo give an easy fight give me Deon Haney you give [Laughter] me honest answer uh I mean if we're I I would say Floyd if I Pi if I could sit here and pick who I box first boxing fight I pick Floyd because it would be the biggest most crazy most legendary fight maybe not most legendary some people for me okay but outside of that on a skill based level oh I I could hang with some good [ __ ] pro boxers I'm undefeated in boxing you think you think if you and uh ilot boxed that' be ilot is very very [ __ ] skilled boxing that's an interesting question so who what what professional boxer would you equate your PA Mike Tyson I know of Devon Haney now because Ryan Garcia beat him uh dvon Davis he's really short I know him um maybe smacking [ __ ] up though he does he that little guy he can't he can't ride roll coasters though that is true so there's a there's a tradeoff like Cruz fight he was riding a roller coaster no like I'm talking about like at the fair oh no you know like there there's a trade-off in life you know where things get weird it's like it's like yo he's really good but you can't even just hit Dante fan brother can't even ride the top not a Dante fan that's not what I'm wait what did what did I say to say I'm not a you didn't say I mean I don't think he knows that it's a short joke I don't think he picked up on you want me tell him I was joking shut the [ __ ] up I get I say that was a joke I'm what are you trying to say I'm but are you trying to insinuate that I'm short no honestly you're probably what five you're 5'9 you're like 5' seven and a half stop doing stop doing it stop doing that cuz [ __ ] is going to see this and be like he's 5'6 actually if you watching this and you think I'm 5'6 and you want to try me in person please any [ __ ] who see me out I'm punching your [ __ ] out I'm like 5'9 on a good day when when I'm lying to women I'm 5'10 for sure who's gonna ID me I'm wearing forces I'm a [ __ ] liar all right so now for the truth jakee he's like what like he's 5 No but don't do that bro all right all right we won't we'll cut that out like yeah n don't cut it out n don't see me and see these but you know dvon is 5'5 legit that's cool bro I know but is that not short just be honest is that five five short for a grown man for a grown man is that short you can be a fan I'm not I'm a fan of javante and he's five that's a little little bro all right the joke went over his head anyways so the short joke [ __ ] is trying to play me like I'm short no no no we're we're not we're not you're [ __ ] tall all right let's pivot yeah so um SI yeah sh shout out to the shout out to the pivot but but yeah like Jasper's a little riled up things are on edge he's a little he's a little turned up it's been a long day a long two days we've been shooting uh because we have a new [ __ ] company did we say we talk about that yet I we said in the beginning raise your arms up [ __ ] goed [ __ ] goed shout out to w a fun few days it's been a fun few days days you're going to see the content rolling out um but you speaking of but Ruby Rose did a good job oh my God I wanted to bite that M listen anyway if you're near wmart if you're watching this right now I don't give a [ __ ] what you're doing you could be taking care of your kid you could be taking care of your elderly parents [ __ ] them go to Walmart June 1st Nationwide I don't care if you in Pensacola you in Massachusetts all in places that sound [ __ ] stupid there's a Walmart there and you go there it's a better for you product vitamin ifuse number [ __ ] one yeah no basically I I think dialing back like the business story of it because you're also like a very smart businessman intellectual doing everything you do in and outside of the Ring which a lot of people don't have which contributes to you being uh the biggest in my opinion the biggest UFC star um but yeah we we basically I guess this is the podcast where we tell people where W came from but um we started building this company like a year and a half ago and really saw how all these other companies like as we move into better for you products and less harmful products we saw how the leaders in the space didn't have the best formulas didn't have the best manufacturing had all of these harmful substances in it and we're also brands from when I was like 9 years old I don't want to list names but they're still like having all the Shelf space in stores and I was just like this is wild like this is boring this is lame the the the we need something new we need something that's better uh males have vitamin uh deficiencies like crazy especially with magnesium Jasper just can't get enough of it uh especially with magnesium um and biotin is in the body wash uh vitamin E one two of the best vitamins for your skin and hair um but as The Story Goes long story short we we come up with this brand that represents so many things um but I think winning in everyday life whether you're the valedictorian whether you are the high school jock whether you're philanthropist now you have a product that you can embody and wear every single day that's increasing your vitamin intake that is less harmful to you that's where the idea came from and just being the winning formula in category uh went to Walmart pitched them the whole idea they [ __ ] loved it helped us build the brand even and come up with the scent profiles and all the things that are the the most popular um and this has been something I've wanted to do for so long we had to bring in the best people to be a part of it the winners in their category and that's number one Numero Uno sha Ali here um and he instantly saw the vision and already in the past couple of days it's been like super fun filming all the content behind yeah I was pumped when you [ __ ] called me appreciate you thinking of me and uh excited to help grow this business [ __ ] it's needed it's needed we're going to take over the whole bathroom you know tooed if you [ __ ] with the dogs and cows and chickens dog in you I know what I got that dog in me and I use it so be dog free baby am I missing anything with that no I think that was great the one the one thing I would touch on and you did in a way but it's it is body wash it is body spray it is deodorant but it also is there's an ethos that stands behind this brand which is the ethos that you stand for and it's the ethos that you stand for and the ethos that you stand for and the one that I stand for if I say ethos again I'm GNA start stumbling over my words but it's it's it's like you said it it doesn't the winners in life aren't just you you're on a big stage in life you're you're you're crushing it in every aspect financially you're a star you're leading your sport that's awesome on every [ __ ] level it's it's an encouragement to to young men all around the world to [ __ ] get up off their ass and get sh it don't matter if you score high on a test you whatever the [ __ ] it is that you do well maybe not so it matters what the [ __ ] you do but it also doesn't matter what the [ __ ] you do anybody is a winner as long as you put in the work and you have the will to win and I love it I I would say that's wrong I would say that not anybody is a winner and I think that's something that the brand also stands for like you really got to win you got to as you have the will to win no I'm just saying I think that's an important point cuz we live in a world today where a lot of people think everybody can be a winner that's not true if you Los you might be a loser and if you're a loser the good news is there's a hidden l in the logo actually we'll trace it for you with our graphic design team there's a hidden l in the logo because and I I I wanted to make sure that was was a thing because the biggest loss of my life turned out to be the biggest W in my life and I always had the saying like two L's make a w and when I lost to Tommy Fury it was embarrassing all these things but I realized I wasn't focused I wasn't as locked in as I could be the team around me from a boxing standpoint wasn't good I was having personal issues with relationships and all of these things that I had to shed and grow from and I grew into this new and completely different person but I wouldn't have done that if I didn't lose on the biggest stage possible and I think that was part of the ethos ethos ethos ethos of the brand was to encourage people that in their lowest moments to turn those into into their biggest W's eventually when Jake just said that the biggest loss of his life ended up being the biggest W of his life you said same yeah yeah same what what was that story for supposedly lost for lost to Cheeto back in 2020 August it it was I mean it sucked at the time but I it didn't suck too bad because I was like okay I didn't lose because I you know and it was different I wasn't I mean I was focused everything went good training camp everything was good but I was like that sucks I'm goingon to get that back someday when the time is right and then my last fight two two months ago in Miami headline I'm the champ defending my belt against that same guy how rewarding was that three and a half years later August three and a half years later boom beat his ass as a fan of yours it made it so sweet because of all the doubters that constantly like put you down and didn't believe in you and said he was going to destroy you and then you he literally like you embarrass him that was a performance of a life you embarrassed the [ __ ] out of him and I think that's literally a prime example of turning l l into into a w and I really that's what that's where the hidden l in the brand in the logo is um and representing that every single day when you see these products in your bathroom and when we say we have a saying it's not just a product it's a lifestyle absolutely trademarked Incorporated All Rights Reserved 2024 brother uh but but yeah man it's it's an honor to have you a part of this and uh we we really made what we think are the best products on the market from the body wash being exfoliating vitamin infused to the body spray what we found out is a lot of these fragrances like you get like these high-end designer brands that have like $500 colognes turns out it only cost them a dollar to make that and they're literally making like $499 on top of that so we had a fine fragrance house is what these places are called and we got the super expensive scents and gave it to people to what they're worth like we're not trying to these products are super super affordable and I think it's so funny because that's the world we live in where like you just label something and get like a European girl to go this is one of the lower priced men's care products on the market yeah if I'm not mistaken and it's it's the $500 fragrance in the affordable bottle because we want everyone we've been using a body wash in the past two days since we got the samples after the shoot and I personally want to say I got the in there you could bleep it out whatever you want to do W's winning n b genuinely that's that's the saying is the it's winning formula cuz it really is like it really is if if we're going to call our company [ __ ] W it has to be the best we the winners winning product indeed indeed winning customers all that type of [ __ ] indeed better Derek today he's just got a punch I'm not Li I talked to him before he left he wants to punch you up bro he's got a punchable face I like him though it's weird it's like God I like that guy but I want [ __ ] KO pick him up and like it's okay boom one more to the liing me earlier and I'm just letting you know don't shoot the messenger on God he said he wants to get in the ring with you I can call him really he oh yeah he he you want to call him yeah where is he at is wait uh no call no call he's coming up oh um he's talking smack he said he actually wants a spar I swear to God he said he wants to get percentage should I go you guys I literally out let that's crazy timeing saying talk [ __ ] to my face if you're going to talk [ __ ] that's crazy timing what were you saying they were telling me you want to get in the ring and Spar bit or they didn't say Spar they said fight yeah I'm down to do either but uh yeah no I'm just sick of the [ __ ] [ __ ] you've been saying on your podcast uh you called me you made fun of my weight and you called me gay I did not no I well okay okay you said that he wouldn't ever say that what you got to say what your chest that's what I just [ __ ] said bro I he was like oh if I if stand on it you talking to him you talking to him you ain't talking to me my assistant Sono would would piece you he's never boxed a day he never I'm here to fight your video I'm here to fight you what did I what was the first thing I said to you when when I saw you what was the first thing I said to you that we could fight no I said you look thick wait but when we were talking earlier weren't you saying he's a [ __ ] and you wanted to get a ring with him and all type [ __ ] what I'm saying right now say it then I just said the [ __ ] ring so we can after this we have a ring 2 feet away and he's a [ __ ] and whatever else you was saying to me yeah he's [ __ ] what about my hair say something about my hair I I already said that at the W shoot that you look like you haven't showered in [ __ ] a week okay all right d hey buddy hey hey what's your long-term play not no but see you guys you guys are making me seem crazy you're out of your mind he Derek Dereck go warm up hit the hit the heavy back H the warm up is almost listen legendary as send location dble PIV go warm up hey hey double pivot sit sit I'm not [ __ ] no I I'll sit and talk but I'm not [ __ ] no sit on the floor walk you want to take my seat hey how much how much of what's going on ch ch how much of what's going on is is a character versus like actual delusion how much is a character yeah decent uh I would say there are times where I know what I have to do for my boxing career to like like we all why is he laughing cuz you said career I beat your [ __ ] boy your [ __ ] [ __ ] bro you know what I I recall you did beat I recall calling steiny saying what the [ __ ] was that buddy I love steiny but I do remember watching that and thinking I wasn't proud of that I was not proud of that from steiny and I wish I wish he would come to the gym I wish he'd get in there I wish he'd train a little bit and I wish he would have a rematch but that's on him I've been trying to get the rematch but he's been ding me do you think Derek won he said I won I thought I thought he won I'd have to rewatch but I do think I come on baby the comments have [ __ ] dragged me for months after that [ __ ] 99% of the comments say I lost so please say it one more time Sean no I said it what I said it's like therapy or something no but to answer your question uh we all know uh uh as Fighters there's a side of promotion stop [ __ ] first of all Gus shut the [ __ ] up our our audio guys uh like can't stop laughing is that the facial his facial hair or is what he's saying bro that's bold of you to talk facial hair bro that's bold of you to I'm not Li you look dirty you look like Jeffrey done training right Jesus I train every day but anyway we know like there's two sides of of promotion as well as the actual athletic competition that is Combat Sports so there are times where I might play up a little bit like hey promoting but let him go let him go all right if you if all if you think I'm all promoting that I'll see you in the [ __ ] ring and I'll knock both you either of you out well um well Jake's a [ __ ] fat [ __ ] right now he weighs like 240 so I got I goty I gotta pick my words wisely like he's Jake's 240 I I know I know but like I'm not going to sit here and pick a fight against somebody that's 240 when I'm se's my weight class when I stopped you in one round like just like but when I was getting started out of come this is where I'm at since then I told him he could have somebody tag team I'm down I'm down to fight anybody in this [ __ ] room not one person in this room I'm the best part about this is like uh right after this we I think you're you're down to do like one round or three minutes right I mean I'd prefer 12 but we okay yeah 12 I mean that my biggest advantage in the ring ring is my cardio I do 12 12 okay so no I have a genuine question so five round I'm not I'm not one have I ever said I'm a UFC fighter no I'm just say we can box I'm just saying that's I'm used to five you want to do three we could do that aren't you trying to be a boxer with your [ __ ] Ryan Garcia call he would knock knock your [ __ ] ass out so quickly it wouldn't be close I'm one and0 pro boxing what are you actually I saw that video I saw video I'm also want to know thank you officially hey they count that's real commiss but uh I didn't mean I didn't mean to take I didn't mean to take over the pot I just wanted to a couple you definitely didn't yeah okay I try I'm trying to help you no we love you go warm up yeah yeah go warm up the bags don't warm up too much though don't get tired how much do you wa right now without Timberlands and jean shorts on high 120 low 13 no without lying though okay that [ __ ] is you think you got you got him one round I think I could beat him I think I can beat him I I think I could handicap myself to three just put on one glove I could do that what do you think actually happens now when you go downstairs and he gets in that ring like what's his plan that's what I don't get about him but that's why it's that's do me a favor that's why he's Cloud it up because love [ __ ] up [ __ ] he's going he's going to try to Yap he's going to try to talk please just go 100% yeah no actually actually please go 100% if he signs a consent form we'll have him no we've already got like multiple consent forms for better media with like death wavers [ __ ] no no no but he needs it he needs that I'll go like 40 no go like 75 Sean I'm I'm going to be honest bro don't even go 20% he's the nice [ __ ] bro don't do that bro you want him to go 100% no no to be honest but just like work with him and then just like maybe just just like a really good punching and then he'll give up 75% uh I'm nervous man I'm shaking for Derek yeah yeah that's good I understand that there a couple flinches if you Flinch hard enough the the wind coming off you will put him down let him walk you down and bait him boom sleeping what's your next upcoming fight a maraba jaaba and when is that uh not nothing yet I'm hoping for September maybe October maybe November maybe December I'm F ready to go baby what if it was next month I wouldn't be ready to go I like I like 10 to 12 weeks 10 to 12 he likes eight I mean I I normally do like 10 yeah just like but I've been super the first few weeks are [ __ ] pre-amps this Camp I'm channeling my Ryan Garcia would you ever do a Ryan Garcia regiment during Camp drink and smoke every night you do a little I I probably yeah I'm not actually doing that for the people out there he's locked in clocked in locked in locked in ready to go yeah May 20th we start but by the time the people see this it'll be uh June or something like that that is crazy you're fighting Mike that you fought Ben asran wrestler good good [ __ ] UFC was really good UF bit Tyron Woodley twice Anderson Silva knockout of the year with Nate Robinson can't forget about deji deji the the the goat do we say Gibb or is that like that's just crazy resume like literally [ __ ] C by way thank you Gib cuz we had a really good party after he knocked you the [ __ ] out who W we're skipping two professional boxers this always no no the recent ones this always happens I'm trying to just think cuz two cuz this is what everybody asked for this is what everybody asked for who who are the two professional boxers you fighted you got to name them Andre August and Ryan Borland go okay people don't people are like fight a pro boxer and then I do and then they're like that was boring as a man of combat he what were 10 and one nine and one nine and one what is your take on his [ __ ] all of his fights and who he's fighting in the competition dude I've been excited as [ __ ] since I started I remember you I remember the first time I watched was the Nate Robinson I watched that one at home and then uh I don't remember what it was after that but I remember watching Ben Asam in Atlanta I think that was the first time we actually met was right after the fight I think we hugged I was like y I picked you up you carried me back to the locker room that it was love at first sight that was crazy actually yeah actually I [ __ ] with him we became best friends like a couple days later you going to leave me hanging no no I would it's my eyebrow but uh yeah no I think he's obviously super skilled I think it's and I I it's inspired me even in the position I'm at UFC World Champ sexy you know what I mean like tall dark handsome TR inspired me just business the business uh side of things that you've done I've always thought putting on massive fight that's why I'm such a huge Conor fan cuz the pay-per-views he's done is so [ __ ] he's been fighting for four years and [ __ ] that he's been doing the massive fights the fights I get excited for there's a few UFC fights the high the big big fights that I get excited for but every time you fought even when uh Logan fought Floyd I was [ __ ] like excited like all fight week so i' I've been inspired from what you've done from a business side from the boxing side they even just start so not late but for a boxer but these boxers start when they're [ __ ] three four years old like Ryan and tank like they're young buck the Tik Tac I sent you of Devon Haney's debut fight yeah it's wild he was fighting a five foot Mexican in a in a bar was it Dante bro if I show you this [ __ ] oh no I did see that I did see that I did see that when you started even seeing that first video fighting Anderson Silva six fights in bro like do you know how insane that is he's one of the greatest correct me if I'm wrong UFC Strikers in history yeah 100% so does that make me one of the greatest UFC Strikers and one of the greatest wrestlers cuz wood but Ben ask was but Nate Diaz is ducking me in MMA oh am crazy I am weak that's a sick fight MMA I I wish it was that would happened right after the boxing same he's actually ducking it which is why it's crazy because he's not he's not in UFC no but we we upped it to 15 million damn that's crazy though that would be a I like Nate Diaz but that would be such a fun buildup he actually doesn't want to do it all Sean how do you genuinely Jake's not here it's me and you in a room actually how do you see that fight going for Jake what MMA him you're not here J for Nate in MMA keep it a bean God it's it's so hard to you're a big [ __ ] right now on what weight would it be5 185 I don't hate I don't I it's not a it's a winable fight for you I really do think that but Nate is so [ __ ] you would have to do what I did against aljo and morab do not let that [ __ ] grab you not that you can't wrestle cuz I know you can wrestle but once he starts grabbing you and doing Jiu-Jitsu if he gets on top his little he likes his little trips it would be hard for you to win I feel like if he if he started grappling just pure Jiu-Jitsu if it let's be real if it goes to the floor is he [ __ ] if he's on his back Nate's not like a super strong guy so if you learn how to like I mean I'm sure you know how to get up to a single legegg stuff like that but then you start getting your neck grabbed I don't know how much Jiu-Jitsu you know I mean Nate's a [ __ ] high Lev black belt um if you could keep it standing 100% there's winnable ways there if he if he went to the ground feel like he might be able to grab your neck no that that's exactly how I feel about it if I don't get guillotined yeah then I win the fight because even if he was on top take your back but even if he was on top of me I would just throw him off of me cuz he's also the weakest puncher I've ever fought like when he was hitting me I was I almost like started laughing I'm I'm not even saying this to talk [ __ ] out of everyone I've sparred in my whole entire life and everyone I fought his punches are even me we I don't think you ever landed a punch on me is that true well that's not true so I don't anyone no I'm literally not even talking [ __ ] which is why I think it's funny that he dropped Connor and [ __ ] cuz it's just like how Conor with like to the ground yeah like with a straight left hand yeah which is crazy like I I'm not just talking [ __ ] when I say that and I've told you I've literally told you this you told me this after the fight yeah I was like he is the weakest puncher I've ever fought in my life who's who's the weakest puncher you've ever you've ever come to face um there I mean there's been so many fights where I later didn't even get hit um uh does that like make you jaded at all when you get into a fight and you don't really get love that [ __ ] I prefer not to get hit at all but like if I was you and I wasn't get hit at all I'd probably work less no no no no I I know I don't get hit because I work that hard so if I didn't work hard I know I'd probably get hit I'm just a lazy [ __ ] so so here you are on top of the world we're launching [ __ ] W going to be a billion dollar business [ __ ] you I always forget uh UFC champ accomplishing all your goals what do you want next uh what are what is the threeyear fiveyear for Sean I I truly do want to get a boxing fight I'm not I'm not super set on that to where like I'm like going to be [ __ ] if it doesn't happen I do think it'll be interesting especially if I go out there knock morab out Ryan does his thing I think there's a [ __ ] sweet fight there if it doesn't happen not that worried about it want to go out there beat morab I'd like to you know if Max Max and Elia fight I would like to fight go move up to 45 fight the winner of that um you know maybe have three to five maybe have a few more kids definitely want another little baby I love kids my fite pump him out shout out to Danny who's your top pick in a boxing fight though if you if you could choose your Ryan now was like the I mean what he after dvon Beat Ryan I was like javante then Ryan goes out there does his thing really though I think Dante do you is that is that not a big [ __ ] leap Ryan like you said before he's been doing this his whole life one thing that's been proven is that the crossover it's it's not a good return Fury he did his thing okay the excep is the exception we've seen it with okay but then Anthony Joshua put his ass t was crazy super night night he was I'm I'm here for big fights like I wanted to get into the UFC and I wanted to make big fights watching Conor versus Floyd I'm like that [ __ ] happened really happened hey you versus Derek that could be as big as Connor in Floyd but no but I I think the craziest [ __ ] about Conor versus Floyd is that overall it was a W for everyone involved so there's certain fights where it just like doesn't matter what happens that's the world we live in yeah I mean UFC told me they said if the if the fight's big enough and it'll make the UFC money they'll do it what means more to you your your your record being pre or the amount of money you're making all right let me ask you something it's about to get real J's drunk Jasper's drunk as [ __ ] y record or money [ __ ] it depends the Gap like like the gap of money if it's like an extra 10 15 20 million but I lose a couple important fights probably not you just take like 150 million I'll be like like [ __ ] my record baby yeah it depends on the gap of money Jake Paul is not here right now just like a Mayweather Conor McGregor you taking that fight ver Jake yeah no he's my buddy I could I mean I don't I don't even no I no funny no there's you know what's funny is always in my Snapchat story once once a day pretty much someone says we knock out Jake Paul like there's every sing all the time for so long people just want to see me get [ __ ] is good though that's like the thing yeah but I'm sensitive it is funny though people [ __ ] love to hate confidence the craziest thing though actually about both of you like I met you very recently like I didn't realize you're as like normal as you are I don't know why I thought you violent like you guys are both like very goofy mellow and stupid and c and and awesome it's like the greatest thing ever like I couldn't believe when I met you you're like one of us like yeah I wouldn't think you're a [ __ ] yeah one of the coolest people in the world for sure yeah but not a lot of people uh can like I don't know we have like a weird it's hard toes Meat Heads I'm like this the this my dog I think it's a little bit of dark humor too it's like some [ __ ] up [ __ ] that we say off camera [ __ ] sometimes but I think it's like there's a certain yeah like that's how my whole group is back home it's like we all just we're all just kind of [ __ ] dumb I'm smart but like they're dumb well someone commented like yo Jake Paul's the dumbest genius in the world and I was just like I say that [ __ ] all the time you wed up the other day and I was like this is the most genius dumbass in the world no jokes Hey Brother chill buddy trying to get me cancelled no what how old are you 23 are you really yeah no you're not he's not is he what do you think think what did you think Oh no you're 267 27 what did you think he was I thought he was older I thought he was like 27 26 yeah a niggaer mature was that ladies you got a boo you got a girl you just be slanging she timeout right now I don't really talk about she don't time out it's a little tricky she not taking care of herself what do you guys think about Tom Brady R you watch it yeah they kept comp panning to you every 5 Seconds bro I swear there's a huge camer sitting there the whole time but it's cool to see Netflix going hard like that cuz they went hard they swing that meat around huha yeah let's pivot yeah just sorry about him I'm drunk man not yeah but but it was it was great it wasar they should have got rid of most of the football players going up there yeah there's a couple ones Ben afflac is that who that was on there that was wild that was so weird that was so weird it was cool to see how [ __ ] less sensitive people are becoming I feel like feel like it's recently like there's a big push back I think people got sick of it we went super super super PC for a long time people were like wait a second we like being able to say what we want to say I saw kill Tony say oh type of crazy [ __ ] on there that watch every [ __ ] Monday you were on kill Tony yeah how old are you actually buddy I'm a comedian Budd full time no yeah I was on that I was nervous as hell though I was like just being it's a live I do podcast once a week like me and Tim do our podcast every [ __ ] week but to be there in front of an audience live it's weird it's a different kind of well so you say Tim but let's let's talk about actually the fact that you get trained by by one of the greatest boxers of all time it's really that's something what's happened like that's crazy working with Canelo as your as your coach that's what I'm saying people don't going to be Ryan but like yeah that is true I never even thought about that for did you even know that this guy proba even know that that orange [ __ ] is nice wait will I get cancelled by the ginger community no you're black oh no my dad my dad's Ginger and I'm I'm like this [ __ ] is ginger bro he be shaving he be shaving his beard and I zoom in zoom in it's it's slightly orange so I'm a quarter ginger on South Park they made fun of Gingers and that [ __ ] made the news I [ __ ] with the ginger people but like y'all [ __ ] you like redhead girls oh yeah was Super Soaker but anyway yeah like y'all [ __ ] is orange and that's okay but back to you one of y'all that's not drunk I got a question cuz this guy clipped out a lot did Tim actually like you guys about him like saying to fight that was yeah that was real Tim always be talking [ __ ] to the like he's been doing that for so long so what happened he just talk I mean he just he Alo the knee's coming Alo you got to shoot Alo watch out for this like he's been saying that since I've been in the UFC like my debut vers terion where he was talking [ __ ] to terion too and uh he just does it every fight but this happened to just be crazy timing to like Tim you got Tim like alre you got to go and like literally he he like that's when he threw that left hand or whatever stepped into Southpaw and uh or stepped into Orthodox and got dropped it was it was funny the timing because he's like Al you got to go I don't I truly don't think that's why that's not why Alo went I bet you could I bet Alo didn't even hear that but Tim's always chirping and stuff but people on the internet are [ __ ] mad about that a lot of them actually like it I'll say majority of people are thinking that's the funniest [ __ ] ever there's a couple [ __ ] that are like you should be banned think it's a fight would you run the alra fight back or one and done never I like that why would I yeah am I supposed to top that you know what I'm saying I got love for Alo we had him on the show and he he seems like a good dude I actually don't mind Alo I does that ever happen where like you'll have a personal relationship with someone personal runin with them and it's all great but then now all of a sudden you have to fight each other I've never had I've not of running with someone that's been like uh more than like I've ran into aljo morab at the UFC I'm like hey what's up talk to him a little bit you know nothing no ill will um but I haven't had like a run with someone I actually lik them mhm and then at the fight them so you're not friends with any any other UFC fighters oh I have a there's there's a couple guys in my in my weight class that I train with at the lab that are like climbing the r uh ladders what happened with uh the 125 pounder I I don't even know his name and I'm not I'm just not like yeah what's his name I Alexander pania bro this story is actually kind of funny so 2016 I think it was it was like 3 and0 4 and0 and I was still fighting at like I fought at 125 not too long before that I fought at like 130 which is in a weight class was like so I wasn't like a 155 like I am now I was probably like 14 back then and uh Henry cejudo comes in I'm three or four and0 at the point at this point it comes in with this kid Alexander PTO just won The Ultimate Fighter I think he's got his UFC debut or it's his second UFC fight he's a couple weeks out from his fight I'm [ __ ] the night before me and Tim ripping bongs like hanging out being goofballs and [ __ ] so the next morning so we brought him in for sparring hry sudo brings in Alexander you're 4-0 he's King [ __ ] he he's just won The Ultimate Fighter and so they write the names on on the board who who you're sparring I'm like oh [ __ ] I got Alexander Pantoja versus me for one round one round he has three rounds so you write one one name then usually you you spar with one guy then they go out you spar with a fresh guy they go out spar with the fresh guy that's usually how it works so my name was just up there for one round that's it we Spar one round I didn't know anything about him cuz I I didn't really watch it like that 25 I don't really watch 25ers like that but somebody's like oh [ __ ] that's he a black belt he just won The Ultimate Fighter I was like oh [ __ ] I got to [ __ ] Focus up here first round boom Dro him with a liver kick and I wasn't going to post I record all my rounds I have so many sparring rounds like I wasn't going to post it was and for some reason I don't know why he would talk [ __ ] and bring it up cuz I literally I don't know you know know I don't know if you know how it works but you finish a guy the fight's over right no no did he um so I finished him the first round he hit him boom with the liver I posted the video yesterday and I've had it for a long time I didn't want to post it CU you don't post sparring like that but he just kept bringing it up so boom finished him first round um then uh after the first round round I go to walk out and Henry's over there crying box of Kleenex just like [ __ ] wiping his tears crying we want you for a second round so mad that this little like I was nobody just finished his dude he's in the UFC he's supposed to be the man finish him in the first round so Henry's crying saying he wants another round um so I piece him up again in the second round and I'm I'm dying at this point my lungs are burning I'm not in shape for fight I I'm nowhere near in Camp for a fight and I my lungs are hurting and uh Henry again crying blowing his nose and like I want you for a third and Benson comes in Benson Henderson absolute Legend comes in and was yelling cuz that's his it was the his gym the MMA lab we don't let people come in our gym and make us tired and blah blah blah and I'm [ __ ] just just huffing and puffing I just got done work in this dude for 10 minutes finished him in the first round did I say that liver kick um we'll put the footage I have the foot yeah it's right there insert the footage so third round come out boom piece him up again and he's so I don't know why he keeps bringing up this bringing this up in the media I think it's because people ask him but I don't know why he doesn't just say yeah yeah no no I don't want to talk about it he keeps saying like he's like oh I got in I found his range and [ __ ] I'm like bro you you stopped him in one round stopped him in round one and let him live and continue to fight for round two these delusional uh like wild people are weirdos but the reason I posted cuz he kept bringing it up exactly wait so is he the champ now at 125 yeah okay but why does he still want to talk [ __ ] to you if you got [ __ ] up that's what I'm saying I don't know either either you drop to 125 and get that no I can't drop to 125 that's too much now you're a thick [ __ ] I am a thick but yeah I SP I think it's important for up and cominging Spar uh fighters to record their rounds and watch their rounds not for that this reason you know but just to I've improve so much watching my sparring y I have thousands of rounds maybe not thousands hundreds of rounds from 10 years ago on my on my computer of uh it's like NFL team is watching footage the time [ __ ] 100% got to watch that [ __ ] that's I I have every single round recorded and and again I I don't post sparring either exactly you know put in a highlight video make a vlog boom we're sparring people but it's never like [ __ ] up your guy yeah exactly but Mike Perry honestly like what he's been doing is pretty Fu he went to Bare knuckle that [ __ ] just meant for him bare knuckle fighting it's crazy different going crazy he's doing good he's [ __ ] undefeated over there he's beating some really good guys stay over here [ __ ] [ __ ] only place that you should be getting tickets from is game time.co it's it's the only place I go it is the only place you can possibly go they have 110% price match guarantee that's what we use to get our tickets for the NBA Finals you can get $20 off your first order go to gametime.co JJ a $20 off your first order they're doing a deal specifically for y'all and you could see where your tickets are before you buy them seeing the seats they have all of the these great policies last 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platform there is Mike Paul versus Jake Tyson here's my official prediction tell us and even if even if it's against me like it's not it's not I do think you're going to beat Mike Tyson uh it's crazy that I even saying that out loud right now cuz you're fighting Mike Tyson it's [ __ ] crazy even just when we were walking down the the street today people all genders all ages knew you were fighting Mike Tyson it's such a massive fights live on Netflix which is [ __ ] crazy it's in a stadium which is [ __ ] crazy it is crazy I believe in you I see what you I see what you're doing I see you know that you believe in yourself Mike Tyson is uh hasn't fought in however long it's been so for him to just come up and get a fight be I I'm sure is going to be in as good a shape as he possibly could be in but it's just you know it's it's it's it's not his time right now I love Mike Tyson I never actually met him but I love Mike Tyson I do think Jake's gonna get the job done and I do think eight rounds eight two-minute rounds eight two-minute rounds I believe I believe you could put them away in the later rounds you know five six seven eight I do think you could put it put him down which is crazy to even [ __ ] think you rap yeah that's fire I'm just lazy and inconsistent that's not a w no that sh it is not you start using Brandon yell at him every day but cuz you can actually spit that's fire no but but people know him now from like podcasting they don't know he's a rapper and hurts his soul J sick name Lil jizz what J JZ that's good that's good you should switch your [ __ ] I switch my [ __ ] from come Master to kill Jas bro honestly though that's I think singing rapping spitting is one of the things that if I could switch talents be doing something like that that's good or twerking I ain't going to lie you shook that [ __ ] earlier I got a I got a thing on me you that [ __ ] wiggle a little bit let's let's pivot though cuz yep hit a pivot uh yeah do we have a speaker should we play Jasper's new song or something you got a new one I thought you were lazy some new [ __ ] go ahead play on your phone just put it in the speaker put it in the mic too this the [ __ ] I'm dropping when I'm Indie that sound decent I'm not rapping either I'm yapping that's not going to get you drunk yo I made this beat that's crazy I like the way you look I won't lie you got something I need you my with a fly girl like you doing with no guy a little sh don't really go outside I'm not crazy right place and right time you all smiles and pretty light brown [Music] [Music] like that better if I forget you but I just can't time saying do better and I'm sure you can find that guy that's worth all right cut it cut it cut it that's that's enough that's enough that's enough that's enough for real can't give the whole thing it's not out yet yeah hey good [ __ ] that's fire I'll be rapping though but that's some pop [ __ ] just cuz I can do it so why are you consistent cuz I'm lazy and jaded and and spoiled yeah it's unfortunate maam shout out to the homies for a lot of talented people out there that just are yeah don't smoke crack yo also there there is a parallel there don't do don't do that there's a parallel with the same thing he's talking about I think Fighters probably where it's like you could have all the talent in the world he's got that's why I get so [ __ ] mad at him it's cuz he has all the talent in the world really I get more pissed off than he gets and he could be a superstar but he just is lazy he doesn't put the work in he's not he's not strategic and it is hard when you got when you live in a crib in Puerto Rico right you got chefs and [ __ ] and you fly private with me yeah that's it that's it bro that's it you got to you got get paychecks and [ __ ] y'all got to evict me that's not a bad idea honestly I think we talked about it let's make I was I'm H we had a conversation but I just can't I can't because I love you so much I need you but then I'll probably be more like need you y yeah I guarante and then we you would still have to like fly in once a week to to do the pods and it would be resentment and then I I'll go out like and I'll try to start shooting at y'all oh my God I guarantee I would be in the position I'm in if I if I had money and like had already made it like financially had [ __ ] I wouldn't have made it that's why people think I'm crazy but CC the other side of it is like boom right so I'm from com California same hey shout out my [ __ ] yeah man I was homeless for the first half of my life mom's a drug addict dad's a gang member I've never had anything in my life right and my whole life has been music I dropped out in ninth grade I was like I'm going to make music my dad kicks me out he's like you can't live under this roof like be more like your brothers my brothers are [ __ ] star students one got a full ride scholarship loser all all type of [ __ ] nerd ass [ __ ] all those [ __ ] are fat and unemploy now one dropped out of school a full rise scholarship and is just sitting at home right so boom from having nothing to like me saying I'm going to risk everything that I have in my life to become a music artist and it works I get to a certain place and I'm like damn I did exactly I hit a ceiling right so it's like now I had to recalibrate he got a big record deal and then and then like use I crashed out and became a m addict for four four days a week for 30 like 90 days oh it's not bad but then I moved cuz my homeboy was like you need to move and I was like nah [ __ ] that I made a million I ain't going to move I'm going to maintain this lifestyle I'm a junkie but I'm rich yep I crashed out and was like yeah I need to move lost 60 lbs went to Puerto Rico locked in recalibrated and now I'm ready to be but that's that's here's the problem we run into now is that you've recalibrated and now it's still it's been 6 months the album's supposed to be 6 months ago and we're still waiting for the album that's the problem and that's what you got to work on never too late though let's start it let's get because you're vitamin deficient right yeah yeah cuz like a lot of people can't think straight when they're vitamin deficient and all that a week ago kind of elaborated on that so yeah this isn't therapy um I got shout out Suzie right right huh Susie but she's hot is she not you think my therapist you guys got the same one I could pee and vape on this podcast I got to go pee go pee I could pee yeah I mean I think we I think we end the episode because uh let's wrap it up you can get W available at Walmart anyway if you walk into Walmart whether you with your mom your daddy you by yourself you go in that [ __ ] men body care aisle you buy that and comment down below what you thought of the episode for um us being brain fried over and uh jper but Buzz also comment cuz this coming out when the product releases comment your favorite scent and sent $10,000 right no I'm send you 1,000 I ain't got 10,000 for you but I'll send you 1,000 I'll send someone 10,000 he'll send you 10,000 I'll send you a th000 and I'm going through the comments for sure anyway good luck Charlie and if you got a test soon good luck on that [ __ ] that's what we [Music] do what are those 8 O gloves I want you to know they were talking up there he ain't going easy so be ready all right legit be ready buddy I'm using these bags don't show Too Much don't show we're boxing we're boxing I don't I do that on accident sometimes just know that that might come up just keep your hands up I'm just saying I might throw that up I haven't knocked someone out in a while just cuz my last fight didn't go off it went off five rounds I've been like craving just putting someone's lights out lately it's weird versus your boy better Derek I I hope Sean isn't nice and just [ __ ] him up that's your that's your trainee [ __ ] D all righty folks welcome to your main event of the evening starting out first in the loser corner you have better day with a record of no wins no losses I beat ste's [ __ ] out no anything he is 5'7 120 lbs lost in the mile to better JoJo but he's still delusional in his fighting career and to my left in the winning Corner sponsored by W sugar sha Ali The Undefeated UFC champion of the world it's time to fight bring it to the center we already spoke about the rules in the locker room beforehand give me your glove give me your hand touch gloves I want a clean fair fight no no hits below the waist back to your Corners time you ready judge you ready and fight [Music] [Applause] I'm out of balance or something oh do Dodge that [ __ ] hold on hold on hold on hold [ __ ] come on come on just oh my God one back of the head no no no back of the head four ref didn't see it five six me in the eyes Walk This Way Walk This Way for me he's running Walk This Way for me my car run all right and we're in in that right that's called all right time time time one two that was a that was a slip four up six bro Rizo what the [ __ ] are you doing all right get up SLP all right come on time in come on got come on got you [ __ ] black I'm going to I need to work I need to see some work black UT D somebody said 10 seconds like 8 seconds ago all right great back to your corner back to your corner back to your corner stay in there you're doing good right now this feel good I feel good do you see that one I landed clean on his face I think we all terrible shut the [ __ ] up for once in your [ __ ] life shut the [ __ ] up Sean's doing half punches on him shut up I'll act like uh no don't act like bro I'm just I'm putting in work all right how this how you when you [ __ ] beat the old wash UFC fighters everybody comments you're fighting old was UFC fighters what do you think 10s I think they're right in in round two round two round two oh got him [ __ ] oh [Music] [ __ ] hey put that hey that that's a that's going to be a 10 count can't get me by the that's going to be a 10 count that's going to be a 10 count next time back in the just there going to be a 10 count next time get in there give me real quick get him with some you thank you perfect okay BL I'm going to need to see some more one two back to your corner white Corner neutral Corner 5 6 seven eight n look at me thank you bro come on you want to fight do you want to fight when I do you want to fight yes yeah wait wait time back in wake up time time time time time I promise okay it's to the floor the rules of transfer to MMA tap tap tap he's St he's T he's ta all right I block out all right you're good to go wait wait the fight was over get the [ __ ] out of the ring oh it's over it's over it's over it's over go you got it's over it's over it's over [Music]	sparring either exactly you know put in a highlight video make a vlog boom we're sparring people but it's never like [ __ ] up your guy yeah exactly but Mike Perry honestly like what he's been doing is pretty Fu he went to Bare knuckle that [ __ ] just meant for him bare knuckle fighting it's crazy different going crazy he's doing good he's [ __ ] undefeated over there he's beating some really good guys stay over here [ __ ] [ __ ] only place that you should be getting tickets from is game time.co it's it's the only place I go it is the only place you can possibly go they have 110% price match guarantee that's what we use to get our tickets for the NBA Finals you can get $20 off your first order go to gametime.co JJ a $20 off your first order they're doing a deal specifically for y'all and you could see where your tickets are before you buy them seeing the seats they have all of the these great policies last minute deals Zone deals Flash Deals you can get them last minute any sort of thing that you could possibly buy tickets for comedy events events concerts Sports gametime.co is the place to go like I said they have 110% price match guarantee so if you find a better price on a different site and you report it to them they will match it up to 110% and	6	8	4	sparring either exactly you know put in a highlight video make a vlog boom we're sparring people but it's never like yeah exactly but Mike Perry honestly like what he's been doing is pretty cool he went to Bare knuckle that just meant for him bare knuckle fighting it's crazy different going crazy he's doing good he's undefeated over there he's beating some really good guys stay over here	only place that you should be getting tickets from is game time.co it's it's the only place I go it is the only place you can possibly go they have 110% price match guarantee that's what we use to get our tickets for the NBA Finals you can get $20 off your first order go to gametime.co JJ a $20 off your first order they're doing a deal specifically for y'all and you could see where your tickets are before you buy them seeing the seats they have all of the these great policies last minute deals Zone deals Flash Deals you can get them last minute any sort of thing that you could 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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXPZ1KzdpsY	4,103	mXPZ1KzdpsY	2024-06-20 00:00:00	well well well ladies and gentlemen do we have a special episode for you today none other than sugar Shan om Ali the current UFC bantamweight champion a legend in his own right this episode was off the cusp we were a little turned up Jasper was really really drunk so we weren't really prepared for this at all the conversations definitely got wild and obviously as you guys have seen over maybe the past week or so we launched a new company called w am men's carine in Walmart this company is so near and dear to my heart and I partnered with Shawn to bring this Vision to life amongst other celebrities artists and athletes that we are announcing over the next couple of weeks here get your w at Walmart it is very very very very very good stuff and yes you heard the news I am fighting Mike Perry on July 20th it is going down I'm still fighting Mike Tyson November 15th that is happening but I'm staying active knocking out Mike Perry on July 20th and I'm excited for y'all to listen to this episode and he the vision of w how it all came together and how Shawn got involved and then everything to do with Shawn's career this podcast has been a long time coming but prepare yourself for some idiocracy per usual uh this is [ __ ] with Jake Paul we have a secret handshake check it out AC let me get that stop playing mean yeah we created that because we actually have so many things to get into here this has been a long time coming Jasper did bring up something and the reason W was created was because the other products in the category had harmful dyes parabens sulfates hormone disruptors and so we wanted to create the better for you vitamin infused product and and Sean's a co-owner just signed today yesterday for the show but we we'll get into all of that we we've been you know bringing sea on for like we've been talking for like a month and a half yes sir yes sir um it is currently May we've been doing a lot of shoots this podcast will probably come out at post W launch you can get I'm so drunk I'm sorry y'all you can get it in uh Walmart every Walmart you in Paca Walmart get it in you in Pensacola it's in Walmart in Kentucky Walmart Walmart so basically uh we we brought in the greatest people in the world to help build W and Sean is one of those people but dialing everything back we will get into the company the body washes how this all came about but uh we've been wanting to do this podcast and thanks for joining us BR hey guys hey thanks for joining us right did you uh yeah I did you sh for an hour bro did you did you do do we know do we set the stage of the day and the fact that Jasper's slash right now okay cool y drunk is a [ __ ] y like double drunk yep yep yep you drunk yeah all that so um but just winding everything back uh I think we've been friends for a long time in fact you were the first guest on this show oh [ __ ] crazy Zoom crazy that's right that's right that's right the first ever episode you zoomed in and that's crazy we're thankful we're thankful for our friendship and it's pretty cool that now we're here again today uh getting less views than before and that's fire that's it congratulations less views we're not we're not it was it was a joke it was a joke if you watching this please like and comment cuz we falling off right now but man by the time this comes out you're going to be getting ready for me RAB how do you say his name I don't remember morab is iTab or or I don't know me that's got to be it me but you got to say it with the emphasis look meab mirab meab meab there you go there you go so yeah I should be getting ready hopefully I ain't got nothing scheduled hopefully uh you know Uncle Dana will call me say hey buddy you want to fight in in here and there and there and then I'm d b boom and that that's how that works what's up with everybody on your body though everybody talking [ __ ] even people youat I wanted to bring up yeah and he's like saying like he's trying to post about you even yesterday it is weird but when you concuss someone you know what I just say they don't think as well as they used to so I think he's still concussed and he's a little confused because he's talking [ __ ] still he not in his right mind because I can just throw up another post go because it's a throwback Thursday it's a throwback Friday do you think do you think people don't respect you enough cuz I I see that as your friend an unbiased like they just see social media and podcasts and the the hair and stuff like that and then they just sh week but I [ __ ] with you I appr that um I don't think it is well you can't you know I think it's fine I think you're jealous I ain't going to lie I got some inches under here let's smell that hair you can smell my [ __ ] must who I do think I feel a little bit disrespected as the champ but I think that last fight against Che kind of you know shut a little bit of people up canny go five rounds Cheeto beat me before the Alo fight um shut a lot of people up canny grapple didn't have to Grapple cuz he couldn't take me down yeah Alo couldn't take you down I think that was the biggest thing where they were like yo that's his weakness like yeah wrestle him down and then he just proved everyone wrong that's what's so interesting about this morab fight is he's supposedly well he is he's [ __ ] good at wrestling he's really really good at wrestling he's boring as [ __ ] and no one will there won't be one comment saying yeah right he's actually kind of fun not one person I'm com won I'm com you can I ask you something would you put yourself in your own top five Strikers in the UFC oh I'm yeah yo easily who's your Mount Rushmore strikker well I I mean I would unbiasedly I would put him as number one because adna is in like top three but he also like got beat by put that [ __ ] down boy he did uh bro I'm up there I'm up there Max is really good Max super his striking that's a good top five there that's four me Max Elia adaga uh I'm sure I'm missing some your with a one would it be that's that's a minus one Mount rmore is four yeah but I only got four but if you throw the five in it's a plus one isn't there only four yeah but but you ready to throw the five up I'm four all right that's my more but yeah once again uh this is a [ __ ] ass podcast so we apologize hey but something something you just touched on you talked about Fighters being fun and interesting how much and you're you're a superstar how much of you being a superstar how much of any fighter being a superstar comes down to them being fun and interesting as you are and how much of it comes down to their actual fighting good question uh well who's a super who who obviously Connor comes to mind I think he's he's a character he's fun he's interesting who else comes to mind is like a superstar I would say Izzy gives that off I think he's an interesting guy other than that there's not like a ton of fun like Ryan Garcia is doing a really good job right now of being [ __ ] interesting being a character uh I think that's fentel I think it's drugs as well I wouldn't deny that but he's still making people interested in Ryan versus Devon Haney was an interesting fight not because Devon Haney that dude's boring as [ __ ] you think he did them roids no I don't think Ryan did I think Devon needs to take that L he being a [ __ ] about I think the craziest [ __ ] you said to me and like I don't even know if we want to put this in there or bring it up but we we can always remove it but uh because of your your situation with the ostarine and you said to me like and it I like fully felt your energy you're like I swear on my daughter's life I never did that and you got popped for it yeah same thing happened uh to Ryan right now he popped for aost the low super low level a some [ __ ] like a trillionth of a gr the same thing happened to me uh so when that came out with Ryan like I truly truly didn't believe he took anything because it was the same [ __ ] and it happens to a lot of [ __ ] ostarine happens to how does that happen it's called the tainted supplement so if you're taking anything that has protein in it that's not third party tested uh could not just protein any kind of supplement that's not third party tested it's either NSF or there's a bunch of different third party tests but if you're not if you're taking something that doesn't have that there's chances there could be something in it but austram people pop for that all the time my case was not that big of a deal cuz I wasn't as huge of a star as I am now but it still was like a big deal because of my name the reason it's going so crazy right now is because Ryan G is a superstar so people are freaking out but it happens to a lot of athletes I just before we move past it I just on that Superstar topic how is that is that Superstar factor that that someone like you has someone like Ryan has someone like Connor has is it something you're born with or is it is it a practice is it something you can learn and do you sit back and like think like oh how can I go viral today how can I I think it's both I think you have to want to be a superstar there's some guys in the UFC like I want to make more money I want this I want that but they don't really want to be a superstar you you got to want it you got to you got to have some kind of vision a long time before well and and also like who you are as a person you have to have that like Fire Within still though like before you got into want famous I want to be in the NFL I want to be NBA I wanted to be a [ __ ] athlete when I was young was instilled I was just for whatever reason I wanted to make it when I was young I'm from H in Montana like small ass can I ask you something what's your opinion on like the take b nickel takes like where he's like super friendly and humble and like I think he's a sweet ass [ __ ] they love him but like bro that [ __ ] pisses me off I think that [ __ ] is cool too n like you're a hum like [ __ ] talk your [ __ ] you're what 670 like bro talk your [ __ ] like it it kind of bores me no I get yeah I mean that's that's some people's opinion is like he's too nice too humble too that but he's being himself um but he's also super young in the sport I think he and he's still pretty what is he 28 you're in a sport of War if I was playing like [ __ ] Cricket I would be like yeah like but that's that's the thing is for for for a character like him what it seems like is that's what he's in is the sport of war and that's it he's not in the sport of entertainment he's a nice ass sweetheart get there is some people that that understand both sides of things but I also have respect for and I see when someone's that's strictly in the sport of if I play chess with you I'm going to be like good game and I'm going to shake your hand I talk [ __ ] be F ass to a PO it I'm going to be like [ __ ] you you need to get better at whatever you're doing dial dialing it back a little bit um to the aost stream thing I think it's like what do you think about Conor tweeting still at like 3:00 a.m. like coked out he he he he sent shots at me and Ryan talking [ __ ] but it's it's crazy coming from Connor who literally got out of the usada pool to do steroid like legit steroids so it's kind of wild and I was the biggest Connor fan for a long time in the last couple weeks ever since he sent that wasn't even a couple weeks ago probably a week ago I've been trying to hate him I've been trying to be like [ __ ] you Connor but I can't I love Connor I it's like I am excited for his fight coming up I'm excited I want you know I'm all about it what's the fight is it Chandler Chandler in June it's going to be big they just been trying to do it for a long time so I didn't know if it still still I think officially I think it's I think I think the craziest part about it is what like eight weeks before a fight that he's still like coked and drunk out of his mind who you got though who that's a good it is crazy that he still like he tweeted that deleted like 20 minutes later he was definitely [ __ ] up on well that's what I was going to say we can't just Grace past that do you is that that's a that's a bold thing to say do you you know he's on coke is that a is that are you [ __ ] gills I don't know anything but I know for certain that he's brother like look at the time of the tweets and look at what he's saying like also and he's like known for this simar tweets yeah yeah I don't know just manic brother I think he is I do think Ryan is I think he when he said he was playing into it a little bit I I think he's kind of using that I think he's [ __ ] crazy what what what would happen if you and Ryan boxed that's I mean there's only one way to find out he has a lot better chances of beating me in a boxing match than he does in a real fight keep up I do I I [ __ ] I truly believe in myself that's how I got to the [ __ ] position I'm in right now I can box I can throw hands um I don't think it'd be easy by any means I do think it's possible I beat him I'm not saying my my odds are great but I do believe I could beat Ryan Bo if there was anybody you could box for your first boxing match debut who are you Bo give an easy fight give me Deon Haney you give [Laughter] me honest answer uh I mean if we're I I would say Floyd if I Pi if I could sit here and pick who I box first boxing fight I pick Floyd because it would be the biggest most crazy most legendary fight maybe not most legendary some people for me okay but outside of that on a skill based level oh I I could hang with some good [ __ ] pro boxers I'm undefeated in boxing you think you think if you and uh ilot boxed that' be ilot is very very [ __ ] skilled boxing that's an interesting question so who what what professional boxer would you equate your PA Mike Tyson I know of Devon Haney now because Ryan Garcia beat him uh dvon Davis he's really short I know him um maybe smacking [ __ ] up though he does he that little guy he can't he can't ride roll coasters though that is true so there's a there's a tradeoff like Cruz fight he was riding a roller coaster no like I'm talking about like at the fair oh no you know like there there's a trade-off in life you know where things get weird it's like it's like yo he's really good but you can't even just hit Dante fan brother can't even ride the top not a Dante fan that's not what I'm wait what did what did I say to say I'm not a you didn't say I mean I don't think he knows that it's a short joke I don't think he picked up on you want me tell him I was joking shut the [ __ ] up I get I say that was a joke I'm what are you trying to say I'm but are you trying to insinuate that I'm short no honestly you're probably what five you're 5'9 you're like 5' seven and a half stop doing stop doing it stop doing that cuz [ __ ] is going to see this and be like he's 5'6 actually if you watching this and you think I'm 5'6 and you want to try me in person please any [ __ ] who see me out I'm punching your [ __ ] out I'm like 5'9 on a good day when when I'm lying to women I'm 5'10 for sure who's gonna ID me I'm wearing forces I'm a [ __ ] liar all right so now for the truth jakee he's like what like he's 5 No but don't do that bro all right all right we won't we'll cut that out like yeah n don't cut it out n don't see me and see these but you know dvon is 5'5 legit that's cool bro I know but is that not short just be honest is that five five short for a grown man for a grown man is that short you can be a fan I'm not I'm a fan of javante and he's five that's a little little bro all right the joke went over his head anyways so the short joke [ __ ] is trying to play me like I'm short no no no we're we're not we're not you're [ __ ] tall all right let's pivot yeah so um SI yeah sh shout out to the shout out to the pivot but but yeah like Jasper's a little riled up things are on edge he's a little he's a little turned up it's been a long day a long two days we've been shooting uh because we have a new [ __ ] company did we say we talk about that yet I we said in the beginning raise your arms up [ __ ] goed [ __ ] goed shout out to w a fun few days it's been a fun few days days you're going to see the content rolling out um but you speaking of but Ruby Rose did a good job oh my God I wanted to bite that M listen anyway if you're near wmart if you're watching this right now I don't give a [ __ ] what you're doing you could be taking care of your kid you could be taking care of your elderly parents [ __ ] them go to Walmart June 1st Nationwide I don't care if you in Pensacola you in Massachusetts all in places that sound [ __ ] stupid there's a Walmart there and you go there it's a better for you product vitamin ifuse number [ __ ] one yeah no basically I I think dialing back like the business story of it because you're also like a very smart businessman intellectual doing everything you do in and outside of the Ring which a lot of people don't have which contributes to you being uh the biggest in my opinion the biggest UFC star um but yeah we we basically I guess this is the podcast where we tell people where W came from but um we started building this company like a year and a half ago and really saw how all these other companies like as we move into better for you products and less harmful products we saw how the leaders in the space didn't have the best formulas didn't have the best manufacturing had all of these harmful substances in it and we're also brands from when I was like 9 years old I don't want to list names but they're still like having all the Shelf space in stores and I was just like this is wild like this is boring this is lame the the the we need something new we need something that's better uh males have vitamin uh deficiencies like crazy especially with magnesium Jasper just can't get enough of it uh especially with magnesium um and biotin is in the body wash uh vitamin E one two of the best vitamins for your skin and hair um but as The Story Goes long story short we we come up with this brand that represents so many things um but I think winning in everyday life whether you're the valedictorian whether you are the high school jock whether you're philanthropist now you have a product that you can embody and wear every single day that's increasing your vitamin intake that is less harmful to you that's where the idea came from and just being the winning formula in category uh went to Walmart pitched them the whole idea they [ __ ] loved it helped us build the brand even and come up with the scent profiles and all the things that are the the most popular um and this has been something I've wanted to do for so long we had to bring in the best people to be a part of it the winners in their category and that's number one Numero Uno sha Ali here um and he instantly saw the vision and already in the past couple of days it's been like super fun filming all the content behind yeah I was pumped when you [ __ ] called me appreciate you thinking of me and uh excited to help grow this business [ __ ] it's needed it's needed we're going to take over the whole bathroom you know tooed if you [ __ ] with the dogs and cows and chickens dog in you I know what I got that dog in me and I use it so be dog free baby am I missing anything with that no I think that was great the one the one thing I would touch on and you did in a way but it's it is body wash it is body spray it is deodorant but it also is there's an ethos that stands behind this brand which is the ethos that you stand for and it's the ethos that you stand for and the ethos that you stand for and the one that I stand for if I say ethos again I'm GNA start stumbling over my words but it's it's it's like you said it it doesn't the winners in life aren't just you you're on a big stage in life you're you're you're crushing it in every aspect financially you're a star you're leading your sport that's awesome on every [ __ ] level it's it's an encouragement to to young men all around the world to [ __ ] get up off their ass and get sh it don't matter if you score high on a test you whatever the [ __ ] it is that you do well maybe not so it matters what the [ __ ] you do but it also doesn't matter what the [ __ ] you do anybody is a winner as long as you put in the work and you have the will to win and I love it I I would say that's wrong I would say that not anybody is a winner and I think that's something that the brand also stands for like you really got to win you got to as you have the will to win no I'm just saying I think that's an important point cuz we live in a world today where a lot of people think everybody can be a winner that's not true if you Los you might be a loser and if you're a loser the good news is there's a hidden l in the logo actually we'll trace it for you with our graphic design team there's a hidden l in the logo because and I I I wanted to make sure that was was a thing because the biggest loss of my life turned out to be the biggest W in my life and I always had the saying like two L's make a w and when I lost to Tommy Fury it was embarrassing all these things but I realized I wasn't focused I wasn't as locked in as I could be the team around me from a boxing standpoint wasn't good I was having personal issues with relationships and all of these things that I had to shed and grow from and I grew into this new and completely different person but I wouldn't have done that if I didn't lose on the biggest stage possible and I think that was part of the ethos ethos ethos ethos of the brand was to encourage people that in their lowest moments to turn those into into their biggest W's eventually when Jake just said that the biggest loss of his life ended up being the biggest W of his life you said same yeah yeah same what what was that story for supposedly lost for lost to Cheeto back in 2020 August it it was I mean it sucked at the time but I it didn't suck too bad because I was like okay I didn't lose because I you know and it was different I wasn't I mean I was focused everything went good training camp everything was good but I was like that sucks I'm goingon to get that back someday when the time is right and then my last fight two two months ago in Miami headline I'm the champ defending my belt against that same guy how rewarding was that three and a half years later August three and a half years later boom beat his ass as a fan of yours it made it so sweet because of all the doubters that constantly like put you down and didn't believe in you and said he was going to destroy you and then you he literally like you embarrass him that was a performance of a life you embarrassed the [ __ ] out of him and I think that's literally a prime example of turning l l into into a w and I really that's what that's where the hidden l in the brand in the logo is um and representing that every single day when you see these products in your bathroom and when we say we have a saying it's not just a product it's a lifestyle absolutely trademarked Incorporated All Rights Reserved 2024 brother uh but but yeah man it's it's an honor to have you a part of this and uh we we really made what we think are the best products on the market from the body wash being exfoliating vitamin infused to the body spray what we found out is a lot of these fragrances like you get like these high-end designer brands that have like $500 colognes turns out it only cost them a dollar to make that and they're literally making like $499 on top of that so we had a fine fragrance house is what these places are called and we got the super expensive scents and gave it to people to what they're worth like we're not trying to these products are super super affordable and I think it's so funny because that's the world we live in where like you just label something and get like a European girl to go this is one of the lower priced men's care products on the market yeah if I'm not mistaken and it's it's the $500 fragrance in the affordable bottle because we want everyone we've been using a body wash in the past two days since we got the samples after the shoot and I personally want to say I got the in there you could bleep it out whatever you want to do W's winning n b genuinely that's that's the saying is the it's winning formula cuz it really is like it really is if if we're going to call our company [ __ ] W it has to be the best we the winners winning product indeed indeed winning customers all that type of [ __ ] indeed better Derek today he's just got a punch I'm not Li I talked to him before he left he wants to punch you up bro he's got a punchable face I like him though it's weird it's like God I like that guy but I want [ __ ] KO pick him up and like it's okay boom one more to the liing me earlier and I'm just letting you know don't shoot the messenger on God he said he wants to get in the ring with you I can call him really he oh yeah he he you want to call him yeah where is he at is wait uh no call no call he's coming up oh um he's talking smack he said he actually wants a spar I swear to God he said he wants to get percentage should I go you guys I literally out let that's crazy timeing saying talk [ __ ] to my face if you're going to talk [ __ ] that's crazy timing what were you saying they were telling me you want to get in the ring and Spar bit or they didn't say Spar they said fight yeah I'm down to do either but uh yeah no I'm just sick of the [ __ ] [ __ ] you've been saying on your podcast uh you called me you made fun of my weight and you called me gay I did not no I well okay okay you said that he wouldn't ever say that what you got to say what your chest that's what I just [ __ ] said bro I he was like oh if I if stand on it you talking to him you talking to him you ain't talking to me my assistant Sono would would piece you he's never boxed a day he never I'm here to fight your video I'm here to fight you what did I what was the first thing I said to you when when I saw you what was the first thing I said to you that we could fight no I said you look thick wait but when we were talking earlier weren't you saying he's a [ __ ] and you wanted to get a ring with him and all type [ __ ] what I'm saying right now say it then I just said the [ __ ] ring so we can after this we have a ring 2 feet away and he's a [ __ ] and whatever else you was saying to me yeah he's [ __ ] what about my hair say something about my hair I I already said that at the W shoot that you look like you haven't showered in [ __ ] a week okay all right d hey buddy hey hey what's your long-term play not no but see you guys you guys are making me seem crazy you're out of your mind he Derek Dereck go warm up hit the hit the heavy back H the warm up is almost listen legendary as send location dble PIV go warm up hey hey double pivot sit sit I'm not [ __ ] no I I'll sit and talk but I'm not [ __ ] no sit on the floor walk you want to take my seat hey how much how much of what's going on ch ch how much of what's going on is is a character versus like actual delusion how much is a character yeah decent uh I would say there are times where I know what I have to do for my boxing career to like like we all why is he laughing cuz you said career I beat your [ __ ] boy your [ __ ] [ __ ] bro you know what I I recall you did beat I recall calling steiny saying what the [ __ ] was that buddy I love steiny but I do remember watching that and thinking I wasn't proud of that I was not proud of that from steiny and I wish I wish he would come to the gym I wish he'd get in there I wish he'd train a little bit and I wish he would have a rematch but that's on him I've been trying to get the rematch but he's been ding me do you think Derek won he said I won I thought I thought he won I'd have to rewatch but I do think I come on baby the comments have [ __ ] dragged me for months after that [ __ ] 99% of the comments say I lost so please say it one more time Sean no I said it what I said it's like therapy or something no but to answer your question uh we all know uh uh as Fighters there's a side of promotion stop [ __ ] first of all Gus shut the [ __ ] up our our audio guys uh like can't stop laughing is that the facial his facial hair or is what he's saying bro that's bold of you to talk facial hair bro that's bold of you to I'm not Li you look dirty you look like Jeffrey done training right Jesus I train every day but anyway we know like there's two sides of of promotion as well as the actual athletic competition that is Combat Sports so there are times where I might play up a little bit like hey promoting but let him go let him go all right if you if all if you think I'm all promoting that I'll see you in the [ __ ] ring and I'll knock both you either of you out well um well Jake's a [ __ ] fat [ __ ] right now he weighs like 240 so I got I goty I gotta pick my words wisely like he's Jake's 240 I I know I know but like I'm not going to sit here and pick a fight against somebody that's 240 when I'm se's my weight class when I stopped you in one round like just like but when I was getting started out of come this is where I'm at since then I told him he could have somebody tag team I'm down I'm down to fight anybody in this [ __ ] room not one person in this room I'm the best part about this is like uh right after this we I think you're you're down to do like one round or three minutes right I mean I'd prefer 12 but we okay yeah 12 I mean that my biggest advantage in the ring ring is my cardio I do 12 12 okay so no I have a genuine question so five round I'm not I'm not one have I ever said I'm a UFC fighter no I'm just say we can box I'm just saying that's I'm used to five you want to do three we could do that aren't you trying to be a boxer with your [ __ ] Ryan Garcia call he would knock knock your [ __ ] ass out so quickly it wouldn't be close I'm one and0 pro boxing what are you actually I saw that video I saw video I'm also want to know thank you officially hey they count that's real commiss but uh I didn't mean I didn't mean to take I didn't mean to take over the pot I just wanted to a couple you definitely didn't yeah okay I try I'm trying to help you no we love you go warm up yeah yeah go warm up the bags don't warm up too much though don't get tired how much do you wa right now without Timberlands and jean shorts on high 120 low 13 no without lying though okay that [ __ ] is you think you got you got him one round I think I could beat him I think I can beat him I I think I could handicap myself to three just put on one glove I could do that what do you think actually happens now when you go downstairs and he gets in that ring like what's his plan that's what I don't get about him but that's why it's that's do me a favor that's why he's Cloud it up because love [ __ ] up [ __ ] he's going he's going to try to Yap he's going to try to talk please just go 100% yeah no actually actually please go 100% if he signs a consent form we'll have him no we've already got like multiple consent forms for better media with like death wavers [ __ ] no no no but he needs it he needs that I'll go like 40 no go like 75 Sean I'm I'm going to be honest bro don't even go 20% he's the nice [ __ ] bro don't do that bro you want him to go 100% no no to be honest but just like work with him and then just like maybe just just like a really good punching and then he'll give up 75% uh I'm nervous man I'm shaking for Derek yeah yeah that's good I understand that there a couple flinches if you Flinch hard enough the the wind coming off you will put him down let him walk you down and bait him boom sleeping what's your next upcoming fight a maraba jaaba and when is that uh not nothing yet I'm hoping for September maybe October maybe November maybe December I'm F ready to go baby what if it was next month I wouldn't be ready to go I like I like 10 to 12 weeks 10 to 12 he likes eight I mean I I normally do like 10 yeah just like but I've been super the first few weeks are [ __ ] pre-amps this Camp I'm channeling my Ryan Garcia would you ever do a Ryan Garcia regiment during Camp drink and smoke every night you do a little I I probably yeah I'm not actually doing that for the people out there he's locked in clocked in locked in locked in ready to go yeah May 20th we start but by the time the people see this it'll be uh June or something like that that is crazy you're fighting Mike that you fought Ben asran wrestler good good [ __ ] UFC was really good UF bit Tyron Woodley twice Anderson Silva knockout of the year with Nate Robinson can't forget about deji deji the the the goat do we say Gibb or is that like that's just crazy resume like literally [ __ ] C by way thank you Gib cuz we had a really good party after he knocked you the [ __ ] out who W we're skipping two professional boxers this always no no the recent ones this always happens I'm trying to just think cuz two cuz this is what everybody asked for this is what everybody asked for who who are the two professional boxers you fighted you got to name them Andre August and Ryan Borland go okay people don't people are like fight a pro boxer and then I do and then they're like that was boring as a man of combat he what were 10 and one nine and one nine and one what is your take on his [ __ ] all of his fights and who he's fighting in the competition dude I've been excited as [ __ ] since I started I remember you I remember the first time I watched was the Nate Robinson I watched that one at home and then uh I don't remember what it was after that but I remember watching Ben Asam in Atlanta I think that was the first time we actually met was right after the fight I think we hugged I was like y I picked you up you carried me back to the locker room that it was love at first sight that was crazy actually yeah actually I [ __ ] with him we became best friends like a couple days later you going to leave me hanging no no I would it's my eyebrow but uh yeah no I think he's obviously super skilled I think it's and I I it's inspired me even in the position I'm at UFC World Champ sexy you know what I mean like tall dark handsome TR inspired me just business the business uh side of things that you've done I've always thought putting on massive fight that's why I'm such a huge Conor fan cuz the pay-per-views he's done is so [ __ ] he's been fighting for four years and [ __ ] that he's been doing the massive fights the fights I get excited for there's a few UFC fights the high the big big fights that I get excited for but every time you fought even when uh Logan fought Floyd I was [ __ ] like excited like all fight week so i' I've been inspired from what you've done from a business side from the boxing side they even just start so not late but for a boxer but these boxers start when they're [ __ ] three four years old like Ryan and tank like they're young buck the Tik Tac I sent you of Devon Haney's debut fight yeah it's wild he was fighting a five foot Mexican in a in a bar was it Dante bro if I show you this [ __ ] oh no I did see that I did see that I did see that when you started even seeing that first video fighting Anderson Silva six fights in bro like do you know how insane that is he's one of the greatest correct me if I'm wrong UFC Strikers in history yeah 100% so does that make me one of the greatest UFC Strikers and one of the greatest wrestlers cuz wood but Ben ask was but Nate Diaz is ducking me in MMA oh am crazy I am weak that's a sick fight MMA I I wish it was that would happened right after the boxing same he's actually ducking it which is why it's crazy because he's not he's not in UFC no but we we upped it to 15 million damn that's crazy though that would be a I like Nate Diaz but that would be such a fun buildup he actually doesn't want to do it all Sean how do you genuinely Jake's not here it's me and you in a room actually how do you see that fight going for Jake what MMA him you're not here J for Nate in MMA keep it a bean God it's it's so hard to you're a big [ __ ] right now on what weight would it be5 185 I don't hate I don't I it's not a it's a winable fight for you I really do think that but Nate is so [ __ ] you would have to do what I did against aljo and morab do not let that [ __ ] grab you not that you can't wrestle cuz I know you can wrestle but once he starts grabbing you and doing Jiu-Jitsu if he gets on top his little he likes his little trips it would be hard for you to win I feel like if he if he started grappling just pure Jiu-Jitsu if it let's be real if it goes to the floor is he [ __ ] if he's on his back Nate's not like a super strong guy so if you learn how to like I mean I'm sure you know how to get up to a single legegg stuff like that but then you start getting your neck grabbed I don't know how much Jiu-Jitsu you know I mean Nate's a [ __ ] high Lev black belt um if you could keep it standing 100% there's winnable ways there if he if he went to the ground feel like he might be able to grab your neck no that that's exactly how I feel about it if I don't get guillotined yeah then I win the fight because even if he was on top take your back but even if he was on top of me I would just throw him off of me cuz he's also the weakest puncher I've ever fought like when he was hitting me I was I almost like started laughing I'm I'm not even saying this to talk [ __ ] out of everyone I've sparred in my whole entire life and everyone I fought his punches are even me we I don't think you ever landed a punch on me is that true well that's not true so I don't anyone no I'm literally not even talking [ __ ] which is why I think it's funny that he dropped Connor and [ __ ] cuz it's just like how Conor with like to the ground yeah like with a straight left hand yeah which is crazy like I I'm not just talking [ __ ] when I say that and I've told you I've literally told you this you told me this after the fight yeah I was like he is the weakest puncher I've ever fought in my life who's who's the weakest puncher you've ever you've ever come to face um there I mean there's been so many fights where I later didn't even get hit um uh does that like make you jaded at all when you get into a fight and you don't really get love that [ __ ] I prefer not to get hit at all but like if I was you and I wasn't get hit at all I'd probably work less no no no no I I know I don't get hit because I work that hard so if I didn't work hard I know I'd probably get hit I'm just a lazy [ __ ] so so here you are on top of the world we're launching [ __ ] W going to be a billion dollar business [ __ ] you I always forget uh UFC champ accomplishing all your goals what do you want next uh what are what is the threeyear fiveyear for Sean I I truly do want to get a boxing fight I'm not I'm not super set on that to where like I'm like going to be [ __ ] if it doesn't happen I do think it'll be interesting especially if I go out there knock morab out Ryan does his thing I think there's a [ __ ] sweet fight there if it doesn't happen not that worried about it want to go out there beat morab I'd like to you know if Max Max and Elia fight I would like to fight go move up to 45 fight the winner of that um you know maybe have three to five maybe have a few more kids definitely want another little baby I love kids my fite pump him out shout out to Danny who's your top pick in a boxing fight though if you if you could choose your Ryan now was like the I mean what he after dvon Beat Ryan I was like javante then Ryan goes out there does his thing really though I think Dante do you is that is that not a big [ __ ] leap Ryan like you said before he's been doing this his whole life one thing that's been proven is that the crossover it's it's not a good return Fury he did his thing okay the excep is the exception we've seen it with okay but then Anthony Joshua put his ass t was crazy super night night he was I'm I'm here for big fights like I wanted to get into the UFC and I wanted to make big fights watching Conor versus Floyd I'm like that [ __ ] happened really happened hey you versus Derek that could be as big as Connor in Floyd but no but I I think the craziest [ __ ] about Conor versus Floyd is that overall it was a W for everyone involved so there's certain fights where it just like doesn't matter what happens that's the world we live in yeah I mean UFC told me they said if the if the fight's big enough and it'll make the UFC money they'll do it what means more to you your your your record being pre or the amount of money you're making all right let me ask you something it's about to get real J's drunk Jasper's drunk as [ __ ] y record or money [ __ ] it depends the Gap like like the gap of money if it's like an extra 10 15 20 million but I lose a couple important fights probably not you just take like 150 million I'll be like like [ __ ] my record baby yeah it depends on the gap of money Jake Paul is not here right now just like a Mayweather Conor McGregor you taking that fight ver Jake yeah no he's my buddy I could I mean I don't I don't even no I no funny no there's you know what's funny is always in my Snapchat story once once a day pretty much someone says we knock out Jake Paul like there's every sing all the time for so long people just want to see me get [ __ ] is good though that's like the thing yeah but I'm sensitive it is funny though people [ __ ] love to hate confidence the craziest thing though actually about both of you like I met you very recently like I didn't realize you're as like normal as you are I don't know why I thought you violent like you guys are both like very goofy mellow and stupid and c and and awesome it's like the greatest thing ever like I couldn't believe when I met you you're like one of us like yeah I wouldn't think you're a [ __ ] yeah one of the coolest people in the world for sure yeah but not a lot of people uh can like I don't know we have like a weird it's hard toes Meat Heads I'm like this the this my dog I think it's a little bit of dark humor too it's like some [ __ ] up [ __ ] that we say off camera [ __ ] sometimes but I think it's like there's a certain yeah like that's how my whole group is back home it's like we all just we're all just kind of [ __ ] dumb I'm smart but like they're dumb well someone commented like yo Jake Paul's the dumbest genius in the world and I was just like I say that [ __ ] all the time you wed up the other day and I was like this is the most genius dumbass in the world no jokes Hey Brother chill buddy trying to get me cancelled no what how old are you 23 are you really yeah no you're not he's not is he what do you think think what did you think Oh no you're 267 27 what did you think he was I thought he was older I thought he was like 27 26 yeah a niggaer mature was that ladies you got a boo you got a girl you just be slanging she timeout right now I don't really talk about she don't time out it's a little tricky she not taking care of herself what do you guys think about Tom Brady R you watch it yeah they kept comp panning to you every 5 Seconds bro I swear there's a huge camer sitting there the whole time but it's cool to see Netflix going hard like that cuz they went hard they swing that meat around huha yeah let's pivot yeah just sorry about him I'm drunk man not yeah but but it was it was great it wasar they should have got rid of most of the football players going up there yeah there's a couple ones Ben afflac is that who that was on there that was wild that was so weird that was so weird it was cool to see how [ __ ] less sensitive people are becoming I feel like feel like it's recently like there's a big push back I think people got sick of it we went super super super PC for a long time people were like wait a second we like being able to say what we want to say I saw kill Tony say oh type of crazy [ __ ] on there that watch every [ __ ] Monday you were on kill Tony yeah how old are you actually buddy I'm a comedian Budd full time no yeah I was on that I was nervous as hell though I was like just being it's a live I do podcast once a week like me and Tim do our podcast every [ __ ] week but to be there in front of an audience live it's weird it's a different kind of well so you say Tim but let's let's talk about actually the fact that you get trained by by one of the greatest boxers of all time it's really that's something what's happened like that's crazy working with Canelo as your as your coach that's what I'm saying people don't going to be Ryan but like yeah that is true I never even thought about that for did you even know that this guy proba even know that that orange [ __ ] is nice wait will I get cancelled by the ginger community no you're black oh no my dad my dad's Ginger and I'm I'm like this [ __ ] is ginger bro he be shaving he be shaving his beard and I zoom in zoom in it's it's slightly orange so I'm a quarter ginger on South Park they made fun of Gingers and that [ __ ] made the news I [ __ ] with the ginger people but like y'all [ __ ] you like redhead girls oh yeah was Super Soaker but anyway yeah like y'all [ __ ] is orange and that's okay but back to you one of y'all that's not drunk I got a question cuz this guy clipped out a lot did Tim actually like you guys about him like saying to fight that was yeah that was real Tim always be talking [ __ ] to the like he's been doing that for so long so what happened he just talk I mean he just he Alo the knee's coming Alo you got to shoot Alo watch out for this like he's been saying that since I've been in the UFC like my debut vers terion where he was talking [ __ ] to terion too and uh he just does it every fight but this happened to just be crazy timing to like Tim you got Tim like alre you got to go and like literally he he like that's when he threw that left hand or whatever stepped into Southpaw and uh or stepped into Orthodox and got dropped it was it was funny the timing because he's like Al you got to go I don't I truly don't think that's why that's not why Alo went I bet you could I bet Alo didn't even hear that but Tim's always chirping and stuff but people on the internet are [ __ ] mad about that a lot of them actually like it I'll say majority of people are thinking that's the funniest [ __ ] ever there's a couple [ __ ] that are like you should be banned think it's a fight would you run the alra fight back or one and done never I like that why would I yeah am I supposed to top that you know what I'm saying I got love for Alo we had him on the show and he he seems like a good dude I actually don't mind Alo I does that ever happen where like you'll have a personal relationship with someone personal runin with them and it's all great but then now all of a sudden you have to fight each other I've never had I've not of running with someone that's been like uh more than like I've ran into aljo morab at the UFC I'm like hey what's up talk to him a little bit you know nothing no ill will um but I haven't had like a run with someone I actually lik them mhm and then at the fight them so you're not friends with any any other UFC fighters oh I have a there's there's a couple guys in my in my weight class that I train with at the lab that are like climbing the r uh ladders what happened with uh the 125 pounder I I don't even know his name and I'm not I'm just not like yeah what's his name I Alexander pania bro this story is actually kind of funny so 2016 I think it was it was like 3 and0 4 and0 and I was still fighting at like I fought at 125 not too long before that I fought at like 130 which is in a weight class was like so I wasn't like a 155 like I am now I was probably like 14 back then and uh Henry cejudo comes in I'm three or four and0 at the point at this point it comes in with this kid Alexander PTO just won The Ultimate Fighter I think he's got his UFC debut or it's his second UFC fight he's a couple weeks out from his fight I'm [ __ ] the night before me and Tim ripping bongs like hanging out being goofballs and [ __ ] so the next morning so we brought him in for sparring hry sudo brings in Alexander you're 4-0 he's King [ __ ] he he's just won The Ultimate Fighter and so they write the names on on the board who who you're sparring I'm like oh [ __ ] I got Alexander Pantoja versus me for one round one round he has three rounds so you write one one name then usually you you spar with one guy then they go out you spar with a fresh guy they go out spar with the fresh guy that's usually how it works so my name was just up there for one round that's it we Spar one round I didn't know anything about him cuz I I didn't really watch it like that 25 I don't really watch 25ers like that but somebody's like oh [ __ ] that's he a black belt he just won The Ultimate Fighter I was like oh [ __ ] I got to [ __ ] Focus up here first round boom Dro him with a liver kick and I wasn't going to post I record all my rounds I have so many sparring rounds like I wasn't going to post it was and for some reason I don't know why he would talk [ __ ] and bring it up cuz I literally I don't know you know know I don't know if you know how it works but you finish a guy the fight's over right no no did he um so I finished him the first round he hit him boom with the liver I posted the video yesterday and I've had it for a long time I didn't want to post it CU you don't post sparring like that but he just kept bringing it up so boom finished him first round um then uh after the first round round I go to walk out and Henry's over there crying box of Kleenex just like [ __ ] wiping his tears crying we want you for a second round so mad that this little like I was nobody just finished his dude he's in the UFC he's supposed to be the man finish him in the first round so Henry's crying saying he wants another round um so I piece him up again in the second round and I'm I'm dying at this point my lungs are burning I'm not in shape for fight I I'm nowhere near in Camp for a fight and I my lungs are hurting and uh Henry again crying blowing his nose and like I want you for a third and Benson comes in Benson Henderson absolute Legend comes in and was yelling cuz that's his it was the his gym the MMA lab we don't let people come in our gym and make us tired and blah blah blah and I'm [ __ ] just just huffing and puffing I just got done work in this dude for 10 minutes finished him in the first round did I say that liver kick um we'll put the footage I have the foot yeah it's right there insert the footage so third round come out boom piece him up again and he's so I don't know why he keeps bringing up this bringing this up in the media I think it's because people ask him but I don't know why he doesn't just say yeah yeah no no I don't want to talk about it he keeps saying like he's like oh I got in I found his range and [ __ ] I'm like bro you you stopped him in one round stopped him in round one and let him live and continue to fight for round two these delusional uh like wild people are weirdos but the reason I posted cuz he kept bringing it up exactly wait so is he the champ now at 125 yeah okay but why does he still want to talk [ __ ] to you if you got [ __ ] up that's what I'm saying I don't know either either you drop to 125 and get that no I can't drop to 125 that's too much now you're a thick [ __ ] I am a thick but yeah I SP I think it's important for up and cominging Spar uh fighters to record their rounds and watch their rounds not for that this reason you know but just to I've improve so much watching my sparring y I have thousands of rounds maybe not thousands hundreds of rounds from 10 years ago on my on my computer of uh it's like NFL team is watching footage the time [ __ ] 100% got to watch that [ __ ] that's I I have every single round recorded and and again I I don't post sparring either exactly you know put in a highlight video make a vlog boom we're sparring people but it's never like [ __ ] up your guy yeah exactly but Mike Perry honestly like what he's been doing is pretty Fu he went to Bare knuckle that [ __ ] just meant for him bare knuckle fighting it's crazy different going crazy he's doing good he's [ __ ] undefeated over there he's beating some really good guys stay over here [ __ ] [ __ ] only place that you should be getting tickets from is game time.co it's it's the only place I go it is the only place you can possibly go they have 110% price match guarantee that's what we use to get our tickets for the NBA Finals you can get $20 off your first order go to gametime.co JJ a $20 off your first order they're doing a deal specifically for y'all and you could see where your tickets are before you buy them seeing the seats they have all of the these great policies last 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platform there is Mike Paul versus Jake Tyson here's my official prediction tell us and even if even if it's against me like it's not it's not I do think you're going to beat Mike Tyson uh it's crazy that I even saying that out loud right now cuz you're fighting Mike Tyson it's [ __ ] crazy even just when we were walking down the the street today people all genders all ages knew you were fighting Mike Tyson it's such a massive fights live on Netflix which is [ __ ] crazy it's in a stadium which is [ __ ] crazy it is crazy I believe in you I see what you I see what you're doing I see you know that you believe in yourself Mike Tyson is uh hasn't fought in however long it's been so for him to just come up and get a fight be I I'm sure is going to be in as good a shape as he possibly could be in but it's just you know it's it's it's it's not his time right now I love Mike Tyson I never actually met him but I love Mike Tyson I do think Jake's gonna get the job done and I do think eight rounds eight two-minute rounds eight two-minute rounds I believe I believe you could put them away in the later rounds you know five six seven eight I do think you could put it put him down which is crazy to even [ __ ] think you rap yeah that's fire I'm just lazy and inconsistent that's not a w no that sh it is not you start using Brandon yell at him every day but cuz you can actually spit that's fire no but but people know him now from like podcasting they don't know he's a rapper and hurts his soul J sick name Lil jizz what J JZ that's good that's good you should switch your [ __ ] I switch my [ __ ] from come Master to kill Jas bro honestly though that's I think singing rapping spitting is one of the things that if I could switch talents be doing something like that that's good or twerking I ain't going to lie you shook that [ __ ] earlier I got a I got a thing on me you that [ __ ] wiggle a little bit let's let's pivot though cuz yep hit a pivot uh yeah do we have a speaker should we play Jasper's new song or something you got a new one I thought you were lazy some new [ __ ] go ahead play on your phone just put it in the speaker put it in the mic too this the [ __ ] I'm dropping when I'm Indie that sound decent I'm not rapping either I'm yapping that's not going to get you drunk yo I made this beat that's crazy I like the way you look I won't lie you got something I need you my with a fly girl like you doing with no guy a little sh don't really go outside I'm not crazy right place and right time you all smiles and pretty light brown [Music] [Music] like that better if I forget you but I just can't time saying do better and I'm sure you can find that guy that's worth all right cut it cut it cut it that's that's enough that's enough that's enough that's enough for real can't give the whole thing it's not out yet yeah hey good [ __ ] that's fire I'll be rapping though but that's some pop [ __ ] just cuz I can do it so why are you consistent cuz I'm lazy and jaded and and spoiled yeah it's unfortunate maam shout out to the homies for a lot of talented people out there that just are yeah don't smoke crack yo also there there is a parallel there don't do don't do that there's a parallel with the same thing he's talking about I think Fighters probably where it's like you could have all the talent in the world he's got that's why I get so [ __ ] mad at him it's cuz he has all the talent in the world really I get more pissed off than he gets and he could be a superstar but he just is lazy he doesn't put the work in he's not he's not strategic and it is hard when you got when you live in a crib in Puerto Rico right you got chefs and [ __ ] and you fly private with me yeah that's it that's it bro that's it you got to you got get paychecks and [ __ ] y'all got to evict me that's not a bad idea honestly I think we talked about it let's make I was I'm H we had a conversation but I just can't I can't because I love you so much I need you but then I'll probably be more like need you y yeah I guarante and then we you would still have to like fly in once a week to to do the pods and it would be resentment and then I I'll go out like and I'll try to start shooting at y'all oh my God I guarantee I would be in the position I'm in if I if I had money and like had already made it like financially had [ __ ] I wouldn't have made it that's why people think I'm crazy but CC the other side of it is like boom right so I'm from com California same hey shout out my [ __ ] yeah man I was homeless for the first half of my life mom's a drug addict dad's a gang member I've never had anything in my life right and my whole life has been music I dropped out in ninth grade I was like I'm going to make music my dad kicks me out he's like you can't live under this roof like be more like your brothers my brothers are [ __ ] star students one got a full ride scholarship loser all all type of [ __ ] nerd ass [ __ ] all those [ __ ] are fat and unemploy now one dropped out of school a full rise scholarship and is just sitting at home right so boom from having nothing to like me saying I'm going to risk everything that I have in my life to become a music artist and it works I get to a certain place and I'm like damn I did exactly I hit a ceiling right so it's like now I had to recalibrate he got a big record deal and then and then like use I crashed out and became a m addict for four four days a week for 30 like 90 days oh it's not bad but then I moved cuz my homeboy was like you need to move and I was like nah [ __ ] that I made a million I ain't going to move I'm going to maintain this lifestyle I'm a junkie but I'm rich yep I crashed out and was like yeah I need to move lost 60 lbs went to Puerto Rico locked in recalibrated and now I'm ready to be but that's that's here's the problem we run into now is that you've recalibrated and now it's still it's been 6 months the album's supposed to be 6 months ago and we're still waiting for the album that's the problem and that's what you got to work on never too late though let's start it let's get because you're vitamin deficient right yeah yeah cuz like a lot of people can't think straight when they're vitamin deficient and all that a week ago kind of elaborated on that so yeah this isn't therapy um I got shout out Suzie right right huh Susie but she's hot is she not you think my therapist you guys got the same one I could pee and vape on this podcast I got to go pee go pee I could pee yeah I mean I think we I think we end the episode because uh let's wrap it up you can get W available at Walmart anyway if you walk into Walmart whether you with your mom your daddy you by yourself you go in that [ __ ] men body care aisle you buy that and comment down below what you thought of the episode for um us being brain fried over and uh jper but Buzz also comment cuz this coming out when the product releases comment your favorite scent and sent $10,000 right no I'm send you 1,000 I ain't got 10,000 for you but I'll send you 1,000 I'll send someone 10,000 he'll send you 10,000 I'll send you a th000 and I'm going through the comments for sure anyway good luck Charlie and if you got a test soon good luck on that [ __ ] that's what we [Music] do what are those 8 O gloves I want you to know they were talking up there he ain't going easy so be ready all right legit be ready buddy I'm using these bags don't show Too Much don't show we're boxing we're boxing I don't I do that on accident sometimes just know that that might come up just keep your hands up I'm just saying I might throw that up I haven't knocked someone out in a while just cuz my last fight didn't go off it went off five rounds I've been like craving just putting someone's lights out lately it's weird versus your boy better Derek I I hope Sean isn't nice and just [ __ ] him up that's your that's your trainee [ __ ] D all righty folks welcome to your main event of the evening starting out first in the loser corner you have better day with a record of no wins no losses I beat ste's [ __ ] out no anything he is 5'7 120 lbs lost in the mile to better JoJo but he's still delusional in his fighting career and to my left in the winning Corner sponsored by W sugar sha Ali The Undefeated UFC champion of the world it's time to fight bring it to the center we already spoke about the rules in the locker room beforehand give me your glove give me your hand touch gloves I want a clean fair fight no no hits below the waist back to your Corners time you ready judge you ready and fight [Music] [Applause] I'm out of balance or something oh do Dodge that [ __ ] hold on hold on hold on hold [ __ ] come on come on just oh my God one back of the head no no no back of the head four ref didn't see it five six me in the eyes Walk This Way Walk This Way for me he's running Walk This Way for me my car run all right and we're in in that right that's called all right time time time one two that was a that was a slip four up six bro Rizo what the [ __ ] are you doing all right get up SLP all right come on time in come on got come on got you [ __ ] black I'm going to I need to work I need to see some work black UT D somebody said 10 seconds like 8 seconds ago all right great back to your corner back to your corner back to your corner stay in there you're doing good right now this feel good I feel good do you see that one I landed clean on his face I think we all terrible shut the [ __ ] up for once in your [ __ ] life shut the [ __ ] up Sean's doing half punches on him shut up I'll act like uh no don't act like bro I'm just I'm putting in work all right how this how you when you [ __ ] beat the old wash UFC fighters everybody comments you're fighting old was UFC fighters what do you think 10s I think they're right in in round two round two round two oh got him [ __ ] oh [Music] [ __ ] hey put that hey that that's a that's going to be a 10 count can't get me by the that's going to be a 10 count that's going to be a 10 count next time back in the just there going to be a 10 count next time get in there give me real quick get him with some you thank you perfect okay BL I'm going to need to see some more one two back to your corner white Corner neutral Corner 5 6 seven eight n look at me thank you bro come on you want to fight do you want to fight when I do you want to fight yes yeah wait wait time back in wake up time time time time time I promise okay it's to the floor the rules of transfer to MMA tap tap tap he's St he's T he's ta all right I block out all right you're good to go wait wait the fight was over get the [ __ ] out of the ring oh it's over it's over it's over it's over go you got it's over it's over it's over [Music]	you know that you believe in yourself Mike Tyson is uh hasn't fought in however long it's been so for him to just come up and get a fight be I I'm sure is going to be in as good a shape as he possibly could be in but it's just you know it's it's it's it's not his time right now I love Mike Tyson I never actually met him but I love Mike Tyson I do think Jake's gonna get the job done and I do think eight rounds eight two-minute rounds eight two-minute rounds I believe I believe you could put them away in the later rounds you know five six seven eight I do think you could put it put him down which is crazy to even [ __ ] think you rap yeah that's fire I'm just lazy and inconsistent that's not a w no that sh it is not you start using Brandon yell at him every day but cuz you can actually spit that's fire no but but people know him now from like podcasting they don't know he's a rapper and hurts his soul J sick name Lil jizz what J JZ that's good that's good you should switch your [ __ ] I switch my [ __ ] from come Master to kill Jas bro honestly though that's I think singing rapping spitting is one of the things that if I could switch talents be doing something like that that's good	5	6	4	you know that you believe in yourself Mike Tyson is uh hasn't fought in however long it's been so for him to just come up and get a fight be I I'm sure is going to be in as good a shape as he possibly could be in but it's just you know it's it's it's it's not his time right now I love Mike Tyson I never actually met him but I love Mike Tyson I do think Jake's gonna get the job done and I do think eight rounds eight two-minute rounds eight two-minute rounds I believe I believe you could put them away in the later rounds you know five six seven eight I do think you could put it put him down	that's fire I'm just lazy and inconsistent that's not a w no that sh it is not you start using Brandon yell at him every day but cuz you can actually spit that's fire no but but people know him now from like podcasting they don't know he's a rapper and hurts his soul J sick name Lil jizz what J JZ that's good that's good you should switch your [ __ ] I switch my [ __ ] from come Master to kill Jas bro honestly though that's I think singing rapping spitting is one of the things that if I could switch talents be doing something like that that's good	4,5,6	8,7,4	4	5	6	8	7	4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXPZ1KzdpsY	4,103	mXPZ1KzdpsY	2024-06-20 00:00:00	well well well ladies and gentlemen do we have a special episode for you today none other than sugar Shan om Ali the current UFC bantamweight champion a legend in his own right this episode was off the cusp we were a little turned up Jasper was really really drunk so we weren't really prepared for this at all the conversations definitely got wild and obviously as you guys have seen over maybe the past week or so we launched a new company called w am men's carine in Walmart this company is so near and dear to my heart and I partnered with Shawn to bring this Vision to life amongst other celebrities artists and athletes that we are announcing over the next couple of weeks here get your w at Walmart it is very very very very very good stuff and yes you heard the news I am fighting Mike Perry on July 20th it is going down I'm still fighting Mike Tyson November 15th that is happening but I'm staying active knocking out Mike Perry on July 20th and I'm excited for y'all to listen to this episode and he the vision of w how it all came together and how Shawn got involved and then everything to do with Shawn's career this podcast has been a long time coming but prepare yourself for some idiocracy per usual uh this is [ __ ] with Jake Paul we have a secret handshake check it out AC let me get that stop playing mean yeah we created that because we actually have so many things to get into here this has been a long time coming Jasper did bring up something and the reason W was created was because the other products in the category had harmful dyes parabens sulfates hormone disruptors and so we wanted to create the better for you vitamin infused product and and Sean's a co-owner just signed today yesterday for the show but we we'll get into all of that we we've been you know bringing sea on for like we've been talking for like a month and a half yes sir yes sir um it is currently May we've been doing a lot of shoots this podcast will probably come out at post W launch you can get I'm so drunk I'm sorry y'all you can get it in uh Walmart every Walmart you in Paca Walmart get it in you in Pensacola it's in Walmart in Kentucky Walmart Walmart so basically uh we we brought in the greatest people in the world to help build W and Sean is one of those people but dialing everything back we will get into the company the body washes how this all came about but uh we've been wanting to do this podcast and thanks for joining us BR hey guys hey thanks for joining us right did you uh yeah I did you sh for an hour bro did you did you do do we know do we set the stage of the day and the fact that Jasper's slash right now okay cool y drunk is a [ __ ] y like double drunk yep yep yep you drunk yeah all that so um but just winding everything back uh I think we've been friends for a long time in fact you were the first guest on this show oh [ __ ] crazy Zoom crazy that's right that's right that's right the first ever episode you zoomed in and that's crazy we're thankful we're thankful for our friendship and it's pretty cool that now we're here again today uh getting less views than before and that's fire that's it congratulations less views we're not we're not it was it was a joke it was a joke if you watching this please like and comment cuz we falling off right now but man by the time this comes out you're going to be getting ready for me RAB how do you say his name I don't remember morab is iTab or or I don't know me that's got to be it me but you got to say it with the emphasis look meab mirab meab meab there you go there you go so yeah I should be getting ready hopefully I ain't got nothing scheduled hopefully uh you know Uncle Dana will call me say hey buddy you want to fight in in here and there and there and then I'm d b boom and that that's how that works what's up with everybody on your body though everybody talking [ __ ] even people youat I wanted to bring up yeah and he's like saying like he's trying to post about you even yesterday it is weird but when you concuss someone you know what I just say they don't think as well as they used to so I think he's still concussed and he's a little confused because he's talking [ __ ] still he not in his right mind because I can just throw up another post go because it's a throwback Thursday it's a throwback Friday do you think do you think people don't respect you enough cuz I I see that as your friend an unbiased like they just see social media and podcasts and the the hair and stuff like that and then they just sh week but I [ __ ] with you I appr that um I don't think it is well you can't you know I think it's fine I think you're jealous I ain't going to lie I got some inches under here let's smell that hair you can smell my [ __ ] must who I do think I feel a little bit disrespected as the champ but I think that last fight against Che kind of you know shut a little bit of people up canny go five rounds Cheeto beat me before the Alo fight um shut a lot of people up canny grapple didn't have to Grapple cuz he couldn't take me down yeah Alo couldn't take you down I think that was the biggest thing where they were like yo that's his weakness like yeah wrestle him down and then he just proved everyone wrong that's what's so interesting about this morab fight is he's supposedly well he is he's [ __ ] good at wrestling he's really really good at wrestling he's boring as [ __ ] and no one will there won't be one comment saying yeah right he's actually kind of fun not one person I'm com won I'm com you can I ask you something would you put yourself in your own top five Strikers in the UFC oh I'm yeah yo easily who's your Mount Rushmore strikker well I I mean I would unbiasedly I would put him as number one because adna is in like top three but he also like got beat by put that [ __ ] down boy he did uh bro I'm up there I'm up there Max is really good Max super his striking that's a good top five there that's four me Max Elia adaga uh I'm sure I'm missing some your with a one would it be that's that's a minus one Mount rmore is four yeah but I only got four but if you throw the five in it's a plus one isn't there only four yeah but but you ready to throw the five up I'm four all right that's my more but yeah once again uh this is a [ __ ] ass podcast so we apologize hey but something something you just touched on you talked about Fighters being fun and interesting how much and you're you're a superstar how much of you being a superstar how much of any fighter being a superstar comes down to them being fun and interesting as you are and how much of it comes down to their actual fighting good question uh well who's a super who who obviously Connor comes to mind I think he's he's a character he's fun he's interesting who else comes to mind is like a superstar I would say Izzy gives that off I think he's an interesting guy other than that there's not like a ton of fun like Ryan Garcia is doing a really good job right now of being [ __ ] interesting being a character uh I think that's fentel I think it's drugs as well I wouldn't deny that but he's still making people interested in Ryan versus Devon Haney was an interesting fight not because Devon Haney that dude's boring as [ __ ] you think he did them roids no I don't think Ryan did I think Devon needs to take that L he being a [ __ ] about I think the craziest [ __ ] you said to me and like I don't even know if we want to put this in there or bring it up but we we can always remove it but uh because of your your situation with the ostarine and you said to me like and it I like fully felt your energy you're like I swear on my daughter's life I never did that and you got popped for it yeah same thing happened uh to Ryan right now he popped for aost the low super low level a some [ __ ] like a trillionth of a gr the same thing happened to me uh so when that came out with Ryan like I truly truly didn't believe he took anything because it was the same [ __ ] and it happens to a lot of [ __ ] ostarine happens to how does that happen it's called the tainted supplement so if you're taking anything that has protein in it that's not third party tested uh could not just protein any kind of supplement that's not third party tested it's either NSF or there's a bunch of different third party tests but if you're not if you're taking something that doesn't have that there's chances there could be something in it but austram people pop for that all the time my case was not that big of a deal cuz I wasn't as huge of a star as I am now but it still was like a big deal because of my name the reason it's going so crazy right now is because Ryan G is a superstar so people are freaking out but it happens to a lot of athletes I just before we move past it I just on that Superstar topic how is that is that Superstar factor that that someone like you has someone like Ryan has someone like Connor has is it something you're born with or is it is it a practice is it something you can learn and do you sit back and like think like oh how can I go viral today how can I I think it's both I think you have to want to be a superstar there's some guys in the UFC like I want to make more money I want this I want that but they don't really want to be a superstar you you got to want it you got to you got to have some kind of vision a long time before well and and also like who you are as a person you have to have that like Fire Within still though like before you got into want famous I want to be in the NFL I want to be NBA I wanted to be a [ __ ] athlete when I was young was instilled I was just for whatever reason I wanted to make it when I was young I'm from H in Montana like small ass can I ask you something what's your opinion on like the take b nickel takes like where he's like super friendly and humble and like I think he's a sweet ass [ __ ] they love him but like bro that [ __ ] pisses me off I think that [ __ ] is cool too n like you're a hum like [ __ ] talk your [ __ ] you're what 670 like bro talk your [ __ ] like it it kind of bores me no I get yeah I mean that's that's some people's opinion is like he's too nice too humble too that but he's being himself um but he's also super young in the sport I think he and he's still pretty what is he 28 you're in a sport of War if I was playing like [ __ ] Cricket I would be like yeah like but that's that's the thing is for for for a character like him what it seems like is that's what he's in is the sport of war and that's it he's not in the sport of entertainment he's a nice ass sweetheart get there is some people that that understand both sides of things but I also have respect for and I see when someone's that's strictly in the sport of if I play chess with you I'm going to be like good game and I'm going to shake your hand I talk [ __ ] be F ass to a PO it I'm going to be like [ __ ] you you need to get better at whatever you're doing dial dialing it back a little bit um to the aost stream thing I think it's like what do you think about Conor tweeting still at like 3:00 a.m. like coked out he he he he sent shots at me and Ryan talking [ __ ] but it's it's crazy coming from Connor who literally got out of the usada pool to do steroid like legit steroids so it's kind of wild and I was the biggest Connor fan for a long time in the last couple weeks ever since he sent that wasn't even a couple weeks ago probably a week ago I've been trying to hate him I've been trying to be like [ __ ] you Connor but I can't I love Connor I it's like I am excited for his fight coming up I'm excited I want you know I'm all about it what's the fight is it Chandler Chandler in June it's going to be big they just been trying to do it for a long time so I didn't know if it still still I think officially I think it's I think I think the craziest part about it is what like eight weeks before a fight that he's still like coked and drunk out of his mind who you got though who that's a good it is crazy that he still like he tweeted that deleted like 20 minutes later he was definitely [ __ ] up on well that's what I was going to say we can't just Grace past that do you is that that's a that's a bold thing to say do you you know he's on coke is that a is that are you [ __ ] gills I don't know anything but I know for certain that he's brother like look at the time of the tweets and look at what he's saying like also and he's like known for this simar tweets yeah yeah I don't know just manic brother I think he is I do think Ryan is I think he when he said he was playing into it a little bit I I think he's kind of using that I think he's [ __ ] crazy what what what would happen if you and Ryan boxed that's I mean there's only one way to find out he has a lot better chances of beating me in a boxing match than he does in a real fight keep up I do I I [ __ ] I truly believe in myself that's how I got to the [ __ ] position I'm in right now I can box I can throw hands um I don't think it'd be easy by any means I do think it's possible I beat him I'm not saying my my odds are great but I do believe I could beat Ryan Bo if there was anybody you could box for your first boxing match debut who are you Bo give an easy fight give me Deon Haney you give [Laughter] me honest answer uh I mean if we're I I would say Floyd if I Pi if I could sit here and pick who I box first boxing fight I pick Floyd because it would be the biggest most crazy most legendary fight maybe not most legendary some people for me okay but outside of that on a skill based level oh I I could hang with some good [ __ ] pro boxers I'm undefeated in boxing you think you think if you and uh ilot boxed that' be ilot is very very [ __ ] skilled boxing that's an interesting question so who what what professional boxer would you equate your PA Mike Tyson I know of Devon Haney now because Ryan Garcia beat him uh dvon Davis he's really short I know him um maybe smacking [ __ ] up though he does he that little guy he can't he can't ride roll coasters though that is true so there's a there's a tradeoff like Cruz fight he was riding a roller coaster no like I'm talking about like at the fair oh no you know like there there's a trade-off in life you know where things get weird it's like it's like yo he's really good but you can't even just hit Dante fan brother can't even ride the top not a Dante fan that's not what I'm wait what did what did I say to say I'm not a you didn't say I mean I don't think he knows that it's a short joke I don't think he picked up on you want me tell him I was joking shut the [ __ ] up I get I say that was a joke I'm what are you trying to say I'm but are you trying to insinuate that I'm short no honestly you're probably what five you're 5'9 you're like 5' seven and a half stop doing stop doing it stop doing that cuz [ __ ] is going to see this and be like he's 5'6 actually if you watching this and you think I'm 5'6 and you want to try me in person please any [ __ ] who see me out I'm punching your [ __ ] out I'm like 5'9 on a good day when when I'm lying to women I'm 5'10 for sure who's gonna ID me I'm wearing forces I'm a [ __ ] liar all right so now for the truth jakee he's like what like he's 5 No but don't do that bro all right all right we won't we'll cut that out like yeah n don't cut it out n don't see me and see these but you know dvon is 5'5 legit that's cool bro I know but is that not short just be honest is that five five short for a grown man for a grown man is that short you can be a fan I'm not I'm a fan of javante and he's five that's a little little bro all right the joke went over his head anyways so the short joke [ __ ] is trying to play me like I'm short no no no we're we're not we're not you're [ __ ] tall all right let's pivot yeah so um SI yeah sh shout out to the shout out to the pivot but but yeah like Jasper's a little riled up things are on edge he's a little he's a little turned up it's been a long day a long two days we've been shooting uh because we have a new [ __ ] company did we say we talk about that yet I we said in the beginning raise your arms up [ __ ] goed [ __ ] goed shout out to w a fun few days it's been a fun few days days you're going to see the content rolling out um but you speaking of but Ruby Rose did a good job oh my God I wanted to bite that M listen anyway if you're near wmart if you're watching this right now I don't give a [ __ ] what you're doing you could be taking care of your kid you could be taking care of your elderly parents [ __ ] them go to Walmart June 1st Nationwide I don't care if you in Pensacola you in Massachusetts all in places that sound [ __ ] stupid there's a Walmart there and you go there it's a better for you product vitamin ifuse number [ __ ] one yeah no basically I I think dialing back like the business story of it because you're also like a very smart businessman intellectual doing everything you do in and outside of the Ring which a lot of people don't have which contributes to you being uh the biggest in my opinion the biggest UFC star um but yeah we we basically I guess this is the podcast where we tell people where W came from but um we started building this company like a year and a half ago and really saw how all these other companies like as we move into better for you products and less harmful products we saw how the leaders in the space didn't have the best formulas didn't have the best manufacturing had all of these harmful substances in it and we're also brands from when I was like 9 years old I don't want to list names but they're still like having all the Shelf space in stores and I was just like this is wild like this is boring this is lame the the the we need something new we need something that's better uh males have vitamin uh deficiencies like crazy especially with magnesium Jasper just can't get enough of it uh especially with magnesium um and biotin is in the body wash uh vitamin E one two of the best vitamins for your skin and hair um but as The Story Goes long story short we we come up with this brand that represents so many things um but I think winning in everyday life whether you're the valedictorian whether you are the high school jock whether you're philanthropist now you have a product that you can embody and wear every single day that's increasing your vitamin intake that is less harmful to you that's where the idea came from and just being the winning formula in category uh went to Walmart pitched them the whole idea they [ __ ] loved it helped us build the brand even and come up with the scent profiles and all the things that are the the most popular um and this has been something I've wanted to do for so long we had to bring in the best people to be a part of it the winners in their category and that's number one Numero Uno sha Ali here um and he instantly saw the vision and already in the past couple of days it's been like super fun filming all the content behind yeah I was pumped when you [ __ ] called me appreciate you thinking of me and uh excited to help grow this business [ __ ] it's needed it's needed we're going to take over the whole bathroom you know tooed if you [ __ ] with the dogs and cows and chickens dog in you I know what I got that dog in me and I use it so be dog free baby am I missing anything with that no I think that was great the one the one thing I would touch on and you did in a way but it's it is body wash it is body spray it is deodorant but it also is there's an ethos that stands behind this brand which is the ethos that you stand for and it's the ethos that you stand for and the ethos that you stand for and the one that I stand for if I say ethos again I'm GNA start stumbling over my words but it's it's it's like you said it it doesn't the winners in life aren't just you you're on a big stage in life you're you're you're crushing it in every aspect financially you're a star you're leading your sport that's awesome on every [ __ ] level it's it's an encouragement to to young men all around the world to [ __ ] get up off their ass and get sh it don't matter if you score high on a test you whatever the [ __ ] it is that you do well maybe not so it matters what the [ __ ] you do but it also doesn't matter what the [ __ ] you do anybody is a winner as long as you put in the work and you have the will to win and I love it I I would say that's wrong I would say that not anybody is a winner and I think that's something that the brand also stands for like you really got to win you got to as you have the will to win no I'm just saying I think that's an important point cuz we live in a world today where a lot of people think everybody can be a winner that's not true if you Los you might be a loser and if you're a loser the good news is there's a hidden l in the logo actually we'll trace it for you with our graphic design team there's a hidden l in the logo because and I I I wanted to make sure that was was a thing because the biggest loss of my life turned out to be the biggest W in my life and I always had the saying like two L's make a w and when I lost to Tommy Fury it was embarrassing all these things but I realized I wasn't focused I wasn't as locked in as I could be the team around me from a boxing standpoint wasn't good I was having personal issues with relationships and all of these things that I had to shed and grow from and I grew into this new and completely different person but I wouldn't have done that if I didn't lose on the biggest stage possible and I think that was part of the ethos ethos ethos ethos of the brand was to encourage people that in their lowest moments to turn those into into their biggest W's eventually when Jake just said that the biggest loss of his life ended up being the biggest W of his life you said same yeah yeah same what what was that story for supposedly lost for lost to Cheeto back in 2020 August it it was I mean it sucked at the time but I it didn't suck too bad because I was like okay I didn't lose because I you know and it was different I wasn't I mean I was focused everything went good training camp everything was good but I was like that sucks I'm goingon to get that back someday when the time is right and then my last fight two two months ago in Miami headline I'm the champ defending my belt against that same guy how rewarding was that three and a half years later August three and a half years later boom beat his ass as a fan of yours it made it so sweet because of all the doubters that constantly like put you down and didn't believe in you and said he was going to destroy you and then you he literally like you embarrass him that was a performance of a life you embarrassed the [ __ ] out of him and I think that's literally a prime example of turning l l into into a w and I really that's what that's where the hidden l in the brand in the logo is um and representing that every single day when you see these products in your bathroom and when we say we have a saying it's not just a product it's a lifestyle absolutely trademarked Incorporated All Rights Reserved 2024 brother uh but but yeah man it's it's an honor to have you a part of this and uh we we really made what we think are the best products on the market from the body wash being exfoliating vitamin infused to the body spray what we found out is a lot of these fragrances like you get like these high-end designer brands that have like $500 colognes turns out it only cost them a dollar to make that and they're literally making like $499 on top of that so we had a fine fragrance house is what these places are called and we got the super expensive scents and gave it to people to what they're worth like we're not trying to these products are super super affordable and I think it's so funny because that's the world we live in where like you just label something and get like a European girl to go this is one of the lower priced men's care products on the market yeah if I'm not mistaken and it's it's the $500 fragrance in the affordable bottle because we want everyone we've been using a body wash in the past two days since we got the samples after the shoot and I personally want to say I got the in there you could bleep it out whatever you want to do W's winning n b genuinely that's that's the saying is the it's winning formula cuz it really is like it really is if if we're going to call our company [ __ ] W it has to be the best we the winners winning product indeed indeed winning customers all that type of [ __ ] indeed better Derek today he's just got a punch I'm not Li I talked to him before he left he wants to punch you up bro he's got a punchable face I like him though it's weird it's like God I like that guy but I want [ __ ] KO pick him up and like it's okay boom one more to the liing me earlier and I'm just letting you know don't shoot the messenger on God he said he wants to get in the ring with you I can call him really he oh yeah he he you want to call him yeah where is he at is wait uh no call no call he's coming up oh um he's talking smack he said he actually wants a spar I swear to God he said he wants to get percentage should I go you guys I literally out let that's crazy timeing saying talk [ __ ] to my face if you're going to talk [ __ ] that's crazy timing what were you saying they were telling me you want to get in the ring and Spar bit or they didn't say Spar they said fight yeah I'm down to do either but uh yeah no I'm just sick of the [ __ ] [ __ ] you've been saying on your podcast uh you called me you made fun of my weight and you called me gay I did not no I well okay okay you said that he wouldn't ever say that what you got to say what your chest that's what I just [ __ ] said bro I he was like oh if I if stand on it you talking to him you talking to him you ain't talking to me my assistant Sono would would piece you he's never boxed a day he never I'm here to fight your video I'm here to fight you what did I what was the first thing I said to you when when I saw you what was the first thing I said to you that we could fight no I said you look thick wait but when we were talking earlier weren't you saying he's a [ __ ] and you wanted to get a ring with him and all type [ __ ] what I'm saying right now say it then I just said the [ __ ] ring so we can after this we have a ring 2 feet away and he's a [ __ ] and whatever else you was saying to me yeah he's [ __ ] what about my hair say something about my hair I I already said that at the W shoot that you look like you haven't showered in [ __ ] a week okay all right d hey buddy hey hey what's your long-term play not no but see you guys you guys are making me seem crazy you're out of your mind he Derek Dereck go warm up hit the hit the heavy back H the warm up is almost listen legendary as send location dble PIV go warm up hey hey double pivot sit sit I'm not [ __ ] no I I'll sit and talk but I'm not [ __ ] no sit on the floor walk you want to take my seat hey how much how much of what's going on ch ch how much of what's going on is is a character versus like actual delusion how much is a character yeah decent uh I would say there are times where I know what I have to do for my boxing career to like like we all why is he laughing cuz you said career I beat your [ __ ] boy your [ __ ] [ __ ] bro you know what I I recall you did beat I recall calling steiny saying what the [ __ ] was that buddy I love steiny but I do remember watching that and thinking I wasn't proud of that I was not proud of that from steiny and I wish I wish he would come to the gym I wish he'd get in there I wish he'd train a little bit and I wish he would have a rematch but that's on him I've been trying to get the rematch but he's been ding me do you think Derek won he said I won I thought I thought he won I'd have to rewatch but I do think I come on baby the comments have [ __ ] dragged me for months after that [ __ ] 99% of the comments say I lost so please say it one more time Sean no I said it what I said it's like therapy or something no but to answer your question uh we all know uh uh as Fighters there's a side of promotion stop [ __ ] first of all Gus shut the [ __ ] up our our audio guys uh like can't stop laughing is that the facial his facial hair or is what he's saying bro that's bold of you to talk facial hair bro that's bold of you to I'm not Li you look dirty you look like Jeffrey done training right Jesus I train every day but anyway we know like there's two sides of of promotion as well as the actual athletic competition that is Combat Sports so there are times where I might play up a little bit like hey promoting but let him go let him go all right if you if all if you think I'm all promoting that I'll see you in the [ __ ] ring and I'll knock both you either of you out well um well Jake's a [ __ ] fat [ __ ] right now he weighs like 240 so I got I goty I gotta pick my words wisely like he's Jake's 240 I I know I know but like I'm not going to sit here and pick a fight against somebody that's 240 when I'm se's my weight class when I stopped you in one round like just like but when I was getting started out of come this is where I'm at since then I told him he could have somebody tag team I'm down I'm down to fight anybody in this [ __ ] room not one person in this room I'm the best part about this is like uh right after this we I think you're you're down to do like one round or three minutes right I mean I'd prefer 12 but we okay yeah 12 I mean that my biggest advantage in the ring ring is my cardio I do 12 12 okay so no I have a genuine question so five round I'm not I'm not one have I ever said I'm a UFC fighter no I'm just say we can box I'm just saying that's I'm used to five you want to do three we could do that aren't you trying to be a boxer with your [ __ ] Ryan Garcia call he would knock knock your [ __ ] ass out so quickly it wouldn't be close I'm one and0 pro boxing what are you actually I saw that video I saw video I'm also want to know thank you officially hey they count that's real commiss but uh I didn't mean I didn't mean to take I didn't mean to take over the pot I just wanted to a couple you definitely didn't yeah okay I try I'm trying to help you no we love you go warm up yeah yeah go warm up the bags don't warm up too much though don't get tired how much do you wa right now without Timberlands and jean shorts on high 120 low 13 no without lying though okay that [ __ ] is you think you got you got him one round I think I could beat him I think I can beat him I I think I could handicap myself to three just put on one glove I could do that what do you think actually happens now when you go downstairs and he gets in that ring like what's his plan that's what I don't get about him but that's why it's that's do me a favor that's why he's Cloud it up because love [ __ ] up [ __ ] he's going he's going to try to Yap he's going to try to talk please just go 100% yeah no actually actually please go 100% if he signs a consent form we'll have him no we've already got like multiple consent forms for better media with like death wavers [ __ ] no no no but he needs it he needs that I'll go like 40 no go like 75 Sean I'm I'm going to be honest bro don't even go 20% he's the nice [ __ ] bro don't do that bro you want him to go 100% no no to be honest but just like work with him and then just like maybe just just like a really good punching and then he'll give up 75% uh I'm nervous man I'm shaking for Derek yeah yeah that's good I understand that there a couple flinches if you Flinch hard enough the the wind coming off you will put him down let him walk you down and bait him boom sleeping what's your next upcoming fight a maraba jaaba and when is that uh not nothing yet I'm hoping for September maybe October maybe November maybe December I'm F ready to go baby what if it was next month I wouldn't be ready to go I like I like 10 to 12 weeks 10 to 12 he likes eight I mean I I normally do like 10 yeah just like but I've been super the first few weeks are [ __ ] pre-amps this Camp I'm channeling my Ryan Garcia would you ever do a Ryan Garcia regiment during Camp drink and smoke every night you do a little I I probably yeah I'm not actually doing that for the people out there he's locked in clocked in locked in locked in ready to go yeah May 20th we start but by the time the people see this it'll be uh June or something like that that is crazy you're fighting Mike that you fought Ben asran wrestler good good [ __ ] UFC was really good UF bit Tyron Woodley twice Anderson Silva knockout of the year with Nate Robinson can't forget about deji deji the the the goat do we say Gibb or is that like that's just crazy resume like literally [ __ ] C by way thank you Gib cuz we had a really good party after he knocked you the [ __ ] out who W we're skipping two professional boxers this always no no the recent ones this always happens I'm trying to just think cuz two cuz this is what everybody asked for this is what everybody asked for who who are the two professional boxers you fighted you got to name them Andre August and Ryan Borland go okay people don't people are like fight a pro boxer and then I do and then they're like that was boring as a man of combat he what were 10 and one nine and one nine and one what is your take on his [ __ ] all of his fights and who he's fighting in the competition dude I've been excited as [ __ ] since I started I remember you I remember the first time I watched was the Nate Robinson I watched that one at home and then uh I don't remember what it was after that but I remember watching Ben Asam in Atlanta I think that was the first time we actually met was right after the fight I think we hugged I was like y I picked you up you carried me back to the locker room that it was love at first sight that was crazy actually yeah actually I [ __ ] with him we became best friends like a couple days later you going to leave me hanging no no I would it's my eyebrow but uh yeah no I think he's obviously super skilled I think it's and I I it's inspired me even in the position I'm at UFC World Champ sexy you know what I mean like tall dark handsome TR inspired me just business the business uh side of things that you've done I've always thought putting on massive fight that's why I'm such a huge Conor fan cuz the pay-per-views he's done is so [ __ ] he's been fighting for four years and [ __ ] that he's been doing the massive fights the fights I get excited for there's a few UFC fights the high the big big fights that I get excited for but every time you fought even when uh Logan fought Floyd I was [ __ ] like excited like all fight week so i' I've been inspired from what you've done from a business side from the boxing side they even just start so not late but for a boxer but these boxers start when they're [ __ ] three four years old like Ryan and tank like they're young buck the Tik Tac I sent you of Devon Haney's debut fight yeah it's wild he was fighting a five foot Mexican in a in a bar was it Dante bro if I show you this [ __ ] oh no I did see that I did see that I did see that when you started even seeing that first video fighting Anderson Silva six fights in bro like do you know how insane that is he's one of the greatest correct me if I'm wrong UFC Strikers in history yeah 100% so does that make me one of the greatest UFC Strikers and one of the greatest wrestlers cuz wood but Ben ask was but Nate Diaz is ducking me in MMA oh am crazy I am weak that's a sick fight MMA I I wish it was that would happened right after the boxing same he's actually ducking it which is why it's crazy because he's not he's not in UFC no but we we upped it to 15 million damn that's crazy though that would be a I like Nate Diaz but that would be such a fun buildup he actually doesn't want to do it all Sean how do you genuinely Jake's not here it's me and you in a room actually how do you see that fight going for Jake what MMA him you're not here J for Nate in MMA keep it a bean God it's it's so hard to you're a big [ __ ] right now on what weight would it be5 185 I don't hate I don't I it's not a it's a winable fight for you I really do think that but Nate is so [ __ ] you would have to do what I did against aljo and morab do not let that [ __ ] grab you not that you can't wrestle cuz I know you can wrestle but once he starts grabbing you and doing Jiu-Jitsu if he gets on top his little he likes his little trips it would be hard for you to win I feel like if he if he started grappling just pure Jiu-Jitsu if it let's be real if it goes to the floor is he [ __ ] if he's on his back Nate's not like a super strong guy so if you learn how to like I mean I'm sure you know how to get up to a single legegg stuff like that but then you start getting your neck grabbed I don't know how much Jiu-Jitsu you know I mean Nate's a [ __ ] high Lev black belt um if you could keep it standing 100% there's winnable ways there if he if he went to the ground feel like he might be able to grab your neck no that that's exactly how I feel about it if I don't get guillotined yeah then I win the fight because even if he was on top take your back but even if he was on top of me I would just throw him off of me cuz he's also the weakest puncher I've ever fought like when he was hitting me I was I almost like started laughing I'm I'm not even saying this to talk [ __ ] out of everyone I've sparred in my whole entire life and everyone I fought his punches are even me we I don't think you ever landed a punch on me is that true well that's not true so I don't anyone no I'm literally not even talking [ __ ] which is why I think it's funny that he dropped Connor and [ __ ] cuz it's just like how Conor with like to the ground yeah like with a straight left hand yeah which is crazy like I I'm not just talking [ __ ] when I say that and I've told you I've literally told you this you told me this after the fight yeah I was like he is the weakest puncher I've ever fought in my life who's who's the weakest puncher you've ever you've ever come to face um there I mean there's been so many fights where I later didn't even get hit um uh does that like make you jaded at all when you get into a fight and you don't really get love that [ __ ] I prefer not to get hit at all but like if I was you and I wasn't get hit at all I'd probably work less no no no no I I know I don't get hit because I work that hard so if I didn't work hard I know I'd probably get hit I'm just a lazy [ __ ] so so here you are on top of the world we're launching [ __ ] W going to be a billion dollar business [ __ ] you I always forget uh UFC champ accomplishing all your goals what do you want next uh what are what is the threeyear fiveyear for Sean I I truly do want to get a boxing fight I'm not I'm not super set on that to where like I'm like going to be [ __ ] if it doesn't happen I do think it'll be interesting especially if I go out there knock morab out Ryan does his thing I think there's a [ __ ] sweet fight there if it doesn't happen not that worried about it want to go out there beat morab I'd like to you know if Max Max and Elia fight I would like to fight go move up to 45 fight the winner of that um you know maybe have three to five maybe have a few more kids definitely want another little baby I love kids my fite pump him out shout out to Danny who's your top pick in a boxing fight though if you if you could choose your Ryan now was like the I mean what he after dvon Beat Ryan I was like javante then Ryan goes out there does his thing really though I think Dante do you is that is that not a big [ __ ] leap Ryan like you said before he's been doing this his whole life one thing that's been proven is that the crossover it's it's not a good return Fury he did his thing okay the excep is the exception we've seen it with okay but then Anthony Joshua put his ass t was crazy super night night he was I'm I'm here for big fights like I wanted to get into the UFC and I wanted to make big fights watching Conor versus Floyd I'm like that [ __ ] happened really happened hey you versus Derek that could be as big as Connor in Floyd but no but I I think the craziest [ __ ] about Conor versus Floyd is that overall it was a W for everyone involved so there's certain fights where it just like doesn't matter what happens that's the world we live in yeah I mean UFC told me they said if the if the fight's big enough and it'll make the UFC money they'll do it what means more to you your your your record being pre or the amount of money you're making all right let me ask you something it's about to get real J's drunk Jasper's drunk as [ __ ] y record or money [ __ ] it depends the Gap like like the gap of money if it's like an extra 10 15 20 million but I lose a couple important fights probably not you just take like 150 million I'll be like like [ __ ] my record baby yeah it depends on the gap of money Jake Paul is not here right now just like a Mayweather Conor McGregor you taking that fight ver Jake yeah no he's my buddy I could I mean I don't I don't even no I no funny no there's you know what's funny is always in my Snapchat story once once a day pretty much someone says we knock out Jake Paul like there's every sing all the time for so long people just want to see me get [ __ ] is good though that's like the thing yeah but I'm sensitive it is funny though people [ __ ] love to hate confidence the craziest thing though actually about both of you like I met you very recently like I didn't realize you're as like normal as you are I don't know why I thought you violent like you guys are both like very goofy mellow and stupid and c and and awesome it's like the greatest thing ever like I couldn't believe when I met you you're like one of us like yeah I wouldn't think you're a [ __ ] yeah one of the coolest people in the world for sure yeah but not a lot of people uh can like I don't know we have like a weird it's hard toes Meat Heads I'm like this the this my dog I think it's a little bit of dark humor too it's like some [ __ ] up [ __ ] that we say off camera [ __ ] sometimes but I think it's like there's a certain yeah like that's how my whole group is back home it's like we all just we're all just kind of [ __ ] dumb I'm smart but like they're dumb well someone commented like yo Jake Paul's the dumbest genius in the world and I was just like I say that [ __ ] all the time you wed up the other day and I was like this is the most genius dumbass in the world no jokes Hey Brother chill buddy trying to get me cancelled no what how old are you 23 are you really yeah no you're not he's not is he what do you think think what did you think Oh no you're 267 27 what did you think he was I thought he was older I thought he was like 27 26 yeah a niggaer mature was that ladies you got a boo you got a girl you just be slanging she timeout right now I don't really talk about she don't time out it's a little tricky she not taking care of herself what do you guys think about Tom Brady R you watch it yeah they kept comp panning to you every 5 Seconds bro I swear there's a huge camer sitting there the whole time but it's cool to see Netflix going hard like that cuz they went hard they swing that meat around huha yeah let's pivot yeah just sorry about him I'm drunk man not yeah but but it was it was great it wasar they should have got rid of most of the football players going up there yeah there's a couple ones Ben afflac is that who that was on there that was wild that was so weird that was so weird it was cool to see how [ __ ] less sensitive people are becoming I feel like feel like it's recently like there's a big push back I think people got sick of it we went super super super PC for a long time people were like wait a second we like being able to say what we want to say I saw kill Tony say oh type of crazy [ __ ] on there that watch every [ __ ] Monday you were on kill Tony yeah how old are you actually buddy I'm a comedian Budd full time no yeah I was on that I was nervous as hell though I was like just being it's a live I do podcast once a week like me and Tim do our podcast every [ __ ] week but to be there in front of an audience live it's weird it's a different kind of well so you say Tim but let's let's talk about actually the fact that you get trained by by one of the greatest boxers of all time it's really that's something what's happened like that's crazy working with Canelo as your as your coach that's what I'm saying people don't going to be Ryan but like yeah that is true I never even thought about that for did you even know that this guy proba even know that that orange [ __ ] is nice wait will I get cancelled by the ginger community no you're black oh no my dad my dad's Ginger and I'm I'm like this [ __ ] is ginger bro he be shaving he be shaving his beard and I zoom in zoom in it's it's slightly orange so I'm a quarter ginger on South Park they made fun of Gingers and that [ __ ] made the news I [ __ ] with the ginger people but like y'all [ __ ] you like redhead girls oh yeah was Super Soaker but anyway yeah like y'all [ __ ] is orange and that's okay but back to you one of y'all that's not drunk I got a question cuz this guy clipped out a lot did Tim actually like you guys about him like saying to fight that was yeah that was real Tim always be talking [ __ ] to the like he's been doing that for so long so what happened he just talk I mean he just he Alo the knee's coming Alo you got to shoot Alo watch out for this like he's been saying that since I've been in the UFC like my debut vers terion where he was talking [ __ ] to terion too and uh he just does it every fight but this happened to just be crazy timing to like Tim you got Tim like alre you got to go and like literally he he like that's when he threw that left hand or whatever stepped into Southpaw and uh or stepped into Orthodox and got dropped it was it was funny the timing because he's like Al you got to go I don't I truly don't think that's why that's not why Alo went I bet you could I bet Alo didn't even hear that but Tim's always chirping and stuff but people on the internet are [ __ ] mad about that a lot of them actually like it I'll say majority of people are thinking that's the funniest [ __ ] ever there's a couple [ __ ] that are like you should be banned think it's a fight would you run the alra fight back or one and done never I like that why would I yeah am I supposed to top that you know what I'm saying I got love for Alo we had him on the show and he he seems like a good dude I actually don't mind Alo I does that ever happen where like you'll have a personal relationship with someone personal runin with them and it's all great but then now all of a sudden you have to fight each other I've never had I've not of running with someone that's been like uh more than like I've ran into aljo morab at the UFC I'm like hey what's up talk to him a little bit you know nothing no ill will um but I haven't had like a run with someone I actually lik them mhm and then at the fight them so you're not friends with any any other UFC fighters oh I have a there's there's a couple guys in my in my weight class that I train with at the lab that are like climbing the r uh ladders what happened with uh the 125 pounder I I don't even know his name and I'm not I'm just not like yeah what's his name I Alexander pania bro this story is actually kind of funny so 2016 I think it was it was like 3 and0 4 and0 and I was still fighting at like I fought at 125 not too long before that I fought at like 130 which is in a weight class was like so I wasn't like a 155 like I am now I was probably like 14 back then and uh Henry cejudo comes in I'm three or four and0 at the point at this point it comes in with this kid Alexander PTO just won The Ultimate Fighter I think he's got his UFC debut or it's his second UFC fight he's a couple weeks out from his fight I'm [ __ ] the night before me and Tim ripping bongs like hanging out being goofballs and [ __ ] so the next morning so we brought him in for sparring hry sudo brings in Alexander you're 4-0 he's King [ __ ] he he's just won The Ultimate Fighter and so they write the names on on the board who who you're sparring I'm like oh [ __ ] I got Alexander Pantoja versus me for one round one round he has three rounds so you write one one name then usually you you spar with one guy then they go out you spar with a fresh guy they go out spar with the fresh guy that's usually how it works so my name was just up there for one round that's it we Spar one round I didn't know anything about him cuz I I didn't really watch it like that 25 I don't really watch 25ers like that but somebody's like oh [ __ ] that's he a black belt he just won The Ultimate Fighter I was like oh [ __ ] I got to [ __ ] Focus up here first round boom Dro him with a liver kick and I wasn't going to post I record all my rounds I have so many sparring rounds like I wasn't going to post it was and for some reason I don't know why he would talk [ __ ] and bring it up cuz I literally I don't know you know know I don't know if you know how it works but you finish a guy the fight's over right no no did he um so I finished him the first round he hit him boom with the liver I posted the video yesterday and I've had it for a long time I didn't want to post it CU you don't post sparring like that but he just kept bringing it up so boom finished him first round um then uh after the first round round I go to walk out and Henry's over there crying box of Kleenex just like [ __ ] wiping his tears crying we want you for a second round so mad that this little like I was nobody just finished his dude he's in the UFC he's supposed to be the man finish him in the first round so Henry's crying saying he wants another round um so I piece him up again in the second round and I'm I'm dying at this point my lungs are burning I'm not in shape for fight I I'm nowhere near in Camp for a fight and I my lungs are hurting and uh Henry again crying blowing his nose and like I want you for a third and Benson comes in Benson Henderson absolute Legend comes in and was yelling cuz that's his it was the his gym the MMA lab we don't let people come in our gym and make us tired and blah blah blah and I'm [ __ ] just just huffing and puffing I just got done work in this dude for 10 minutes finished him in the first round did I say that liver kick um we'll put the footage I have the foot yeah it's right there insert the footage so third round come out boom piece him up again and he's so I don't know why he keeps bringing up this bringing this up in the media I think it's because people ask him but I don't know why he doesn't just say yeah yeah no no I don't want to talk about it he keeps saying like he's like oh I got in I found his range and [ __ ] I'm like bro you you stopped him in one round stopped him in round one and let him live and continue to fight for round two these delusional uh like wild people are weirdos but the reason I posted cuz he kept bringing it up exactly wait so is he the champ now at 125 yeah okay but why does he still want to talk [ __ ] to you if you got [ __ ] up that's what I'm saying I don't know either either you drop to 125 and get that no I can't drop to 125 that's too much now you're a thick [ __ ] I am a thick but yeah I SP I think it's important for up and cominging Spar uh fighters to record their rounds and watch their rounds not for that this reason you know but just to I've improve so much watching my sparring y I have thousands of rounds maybe not thousands hundreds of rounds from 10 years ago on my on my computer of uh it's like NFL team is watching footage the time [ __ ] 100% got to watch that [ __ ] that's I I have every single round recorded and and again I I don't post sparring either exactly you know put in a highlight video make a vlog boom we're sparring people but it's never like [ __ ] up your guy yeah exactly but Mike Perry honestly like what he's been doing is pretty Fu he went to Bare knuckle that [ __ ] just meant for him bare knuckle fighting it's crazy different going crazy he's doing good he's [ __ ] undefeated over there he's beating some really good guys stay over here [ __ ] [ __ ] only place that you should be getting tickets from is game time.co it's it's the only place I go it is the only place you can possibly go they have 110% price match guarantee that's what we use to get our tickets for the NBA Finals you can get $20 off your first order go to gametime.co JJ a $20 off your first order they're doing a deal specifically for y'all and you could see where your tickets are before you buy them seeing the seats they have all of the these great policies last 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platform there is Mike Paul versus Jake Tyson here's my official prediction tell us and even if even if it's against me like it's not it's not I do think you're going to beat Mike Tyson uh it's crazy that I even saying that out loud right now cuz you're fighting Mike Tyson it's [ __ ] crazy even just when we were walking down the the street today people all genders all ages knew you were fighting Mike Tyson it's such a massive fights live on Netflix which is [ __ ] crazy it's in a stadium which is [ __ ] crazy it is crazy I believe in you I see what you I see what you're doing I see you know that you believe in yourself Mike Tyson is uh hasn't fought in however long it's been so for him to just come up and get a fight be I I'm sure is going to be in as good a shape as he possibly could be in but it's just you know it's it's it's it's not his time right now I love Mike Tyson I never actually met him but I love Mike Tyson I do think Jake's gonna get the job done and I do think eight rounds eight two-minute rounds eight two-minute rounds I believe I believe you could put them away in the later rounds you know five six seven eight I do think you could put it put him down which is crazy to even [ __ ] think you rap yeah that's fire I'm just lazy and inconsistent that's not a w no that sh it is not you start using Brandon yell at him every day but cuz you can actually spit that's fire no but but people know him now from like podcasting they don't know he's a rapper and hurts his soul J sick name Lil jizz what J JZ that's good that's good you should switch your [ __ ] I switch my [ __ ] from come Master to kill Jas bro honestly though that's I think singing rapping spitting is one of the things that if I could switch talents be doing something like that that's good or twerking I ain't going to lie you shook that [ __ ] earlier I got a I got a thing on me you that [ __ ] wiggle a little bit let's let's pivot though cuz yep hit a pivot uh yeah do we have a speaker should we play Jasper's new song or something you got a new one I thought you were lazy some new [ __ ] go ahead play on your phone just put it in the speaker put it in the mic too this the [ __ ] I'm dropping when I'm Indie that sound decent I'm not rapping either I'm yapping that's not going to get you drunk yo I made this beat that's crazy I like the way you look I won't lie you got something I need you my with a fly girl like you doing with no guy a little sh don't really go outside I'm not crazy right place and right time you all smiles and pretty light brown [Music] [Music] like that better if I forget you but I just can't time saying do better and I'm sure you can find that guy that's worth all right cut it cut it cut it that's that's enough that's enough that's enough that's enough for real can't give the whole thing it's not out yet yeah hey good [ __ ] that's fire I'll be rapping though but that's some pop [ __ ] just cuz I can do it so why are you consistent cuz I'm lazy and jaded and and spoiled yeah it's unfortunate maam shout out to the homies for a lot of talented people out there that just are yeah don't smoke crack yo also there there is a parallel there don't do don't do that there's a parallel with the same thing he's talking about I think Fighters probably where it's like you could have all the talent in the world he's got that's why I get so [ __ ] mad at him it's cuz he has all the talent in the world really I get more pissed off than he gets and he could be a superstar but he just is lazy he doesn't put the work in he's not he's not strategic and it is hard when you got when you live in a crib in Puerto Rico right you got chefs and [ __ ] and you fly private with me yeah that's it that's it bro that's it you got to you got get paychecks and [ __ ] y'all got to evict me that's not a bad idea honestly I think we talked about it let's make I was I'm H we had a conversation but I just can't I can't because I love you so much I need you but then I'll probably be more like need you y yeah I guarante and then we you would still have to like fly in once a week to to do the pods and it would be resentment and then I I'll go out like and I'll try to start shooting at y'all oh my God I guarantee I would be in the position I'm in if I if I had money and like had already made it like financially had [ __ ] I wouldn't have made it that's why people think I'm crazy but CC the other side of it is like boom right so I'm from com California same hey shout out my [ __ ] yeah man I was homeless for the first half of my life mom's a drug addict dad's a gang member I've never had anything in my life right and my whole life has been music I dropped out in ninth grade I was like I'm going to make music my dad kicks me out he's like you can't live under this roof like be more like your brothers my brothers are [ __ ] star students one got a full ride scholarship loser all all type of [ __ ] nerd ass [ __ ] all those [ __ ] are fat and unemploy now one dropped out of school a full rise scholarship and is just sitting at home right so boom from having nothing to like me saying I'm going to risk everything that I have in my life to become a music artist and it works I get to a certain place and I'm like damn I did exactly I hit a ceiling right so it's like now I had to recalibrate he got a big record deal and then and then like use I crashed out and became a m addict for four four days a week for 30 like 90 days oh it's not bad but then I moved cuz my homeboy was like you need to move and I was like nah [ __ ] that I made a million I ain't going to move I'm going to maintain this lifestyle I'm a junkie but I'm rich yep I crashed out and was like yeah I need to move lost 60 lbs went to Puerto Rico locked in recalibrated and now I'm ready to be but that's that's here's the problem we run into now is that you've recalibrated and now it's still it's been 6 months the album's supposed to be 6 months ago and we're still waiting for the album that's the problem and that's what you got to work on never too late though let's start it let's get because you're vitamin deficient right yeah yeah cuz like a lot of people can't think straight when they're vitamin deficient and all that a week ago kind of elaborated on that so yeah this isn't therapy um I got shout out Suzie right right huh Susie but she's hot is she not you think my therapist you guys got the same one I could pee and vape on this podcast I got to go pee go pee I could pee yeah I mean I think we I think we end the episode because uh let's wrap it up you can get W available at Walmart anyway if you walk into Walmart whether you with your mom your daddy you by yourself you go in that [ __ ] men body care aisle you buy that and comment down below what you thought of the episode for um us being brain fried over and uh jper but Buzz also comment cuz this coming out when the product releases comment your favorite scent and sent $10,000 right no I'm send you 1,000 I ain't got 10,000 for you but I'll send you 1,000 I'll send someone 10,000 he'll send you 10,000 I'll send you a th000 and I'm going through the comments for sure anyway good luck Charlie and if you got a test soon good luck on that [ __ ] that's what we [Music] do what are those 8 O gloves I want you to know they were talking up there he ain't going easy so be ready all right legit be ready buddy I'm using these bags don't show Too Much don't show we're boxing we're boxing I don't I do that on accident sometimes just know that that might come up just keep your hands up I'm just saying I might throw that up I haven't knocked someone out in a while just cuz my last fight didn't go off it went off five rounds I've been like craving just putting someone's lights out lately it's weird versus your boy better Derek I I hope Sean isn't nice and just [ __ ] him up that's your that's your trainee [ __ ] D all righty folks welcome to your main event of the evening starting out first in the loser corner you have better day with a record of no wins no losses I beat ste's [ __ ] out no anything he is 5'7 120 lbs lost in the mile to better JoJo but he's still delusional in his fighting career and to my left in the winning Corner sponsored by W sugar sha Ali The Undefeated UFC champion of the world it's time to fight bring it to the center we already spoke about the rules in the locker room beforehand give me your glove give me your hand touch gloves I want a clean fair fight no no hits below the waist back to your Corners time you ready judge you ready and fight [Music] [Applause] I'm out of balance or something oh do Dodge that [ __ ] hold on hold on hold on hold [ __ ] come on come on just oh my God one back of the head no no no back of the head four ref didn't see it five six me in the eyes Walk This Way Walk This Way for me he's running Walk This Way for me my car run all right and we're in in that right that's called all right time time time one two that was a that was a slip four up six bro Rizo what the [ __ ] are you doing all right get up SLP all right come on time in come on got come on got you [ __ ] black I'm going to I need to work I need to see some work black UT D somebody said 10 seconds like 8 seconds ago all right great back to your corner back to your corner back to your corner stay in there you're doing good right now this feel good I feel good do you see that one I landed clean on his face I think we all terrible shut the [ __ ] up for once in your [ __ ] life shut the [ __ ] up Sean's doing half punches on him shut up I'll act like uh no don't act like bro I'm just I'm putting in work all right how this how you when you [ __ ] beat the old wash UFC fighters everybody comments you're fighting old was UFC fighters what do you think 10s I think they're right in in round two round two round two oh got him [ __ ] oh [Music] [ __ ] hey put that hey that that's a that's going to be a 10 count can't get me by the that's going to be a 10 count that's going to be a 10 count next time back in the just there going to be a 10 count next time get in there give me real quick get him with some you thank you perfect okay BL I'm going to need to see some more one two back to your corner white Corner neutral Corner 5 6 seven eight n look at me thank you bro come on you want to fight do you want to fight when I do you want to fight yes yeah wait wait time back in wake up time time time time time I promise okay it's to the floor the rules of transfer to MMA tap tap tap he's St he's T he's ta all right I block out all right you're good to go wait wait the fight was over get the [ __ ] out of the ring oh it's over it's over it's over it's over go you got it's over it's over it's over [Music]	or twerking I ain't going to lie you shook that [ __ ] earlier I got a I got a thing on me you that [ __ ] wiggle a little bit let's let's pivot though cuz yep hit a pivot uh yeah do we have a speaker should we play Jasper's new song or something you got a new one I thought you were lazy some new [ __ ] go ahead play on your phone just put it in the speaker put it in the mic too this the [ __ ] I'm dropping when I'm Indie that sound decent I'm not rapping either I'm yapping that's not going to get you drunk yo I made this beat that's crazy I like the way you look I won't lie you got something I need you my with a fly girl like you doing with no guy a little sh don't really go outside I'm not crazy right place and right time you all smiles and pretty light brown [Music] [Music] like that better if I forget you but I just can't time saying do better and I'm sure you can find that guy that's worth all right cut it cut it cut it that's that's enough that's enough that's enough that's enough for real can't give the whole thing it's not out yet yeah hey good [ __ ] that's fire I'll be rapping though but that's some pop [ __ ] just cuz I can do it	8	6	4	or twerking I ain't going to lie you shook that earlier I got a I got a thing on me you that wiggle a little bit let's let's pivot though cuz yep hit a pivot uh yeah do we have a speaker should we play Jasper's new song or something you got a new one I thought you were lazy some new go ahead play on your phone just put it in the speaker put it in the mic too this the I'm dropping when I'm Indie that sound decent I'm not rapping either I'm yapping that's not going to get you drunk yo I made this beat that's crazy I like the way you look I won't lie you got something I need you my with a fly girl like you doing with no guy a little sh don't really go outside I'm not crazy right place and right time you all smiles and pretty light brown	like that better if I forget you but I just can't time saying do better and I'm sure you can find that guy that's worth all right cut it cut it cut it that's that's enough that's enough that's enough that's enough for real can't give the whole thing it's not out yet yeah hey good that's fire I'll be rapping though but that's some pop just cuz I 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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXPZ1KzdpsY	4,103	mXPZ1KzdpsY	2024-06-20 00:00:00	well well well ladies and gentlemen do we have a special episode for you today none other than sugar Shan om Ali the current UFC bantamweight champion a legend in his own right this episode was off the cusp we were a little turned up Jasper was really really drunk so we weren't really prepared for this at all the conversations definitely got wild and obviously as you guys have seen over maybe the past week or so we launched a new company called w am men's carine in Walmart this company is so near and dear to my heart and I partnered with Shawn to bring this Vision to life amongst other celebrities artists and athletes that we are announcing over the next couple of weeks here get your w at Walmart it is very very very very very good stuff and yes you heard the news I am fighting Mike Perry on July 20th it is going down I'm still fighting Mike Tyson November 15th that is happening but I'm staying active knocking out Mike Perry on July 20th and I'm excited for y'all to listen to this episode and he the vision of w how it all came together and how Shawn got involved and then everything to do with Shawn's career this podcast has been a long time coming but prepare yourself for some idiocracy per usual uh this is [ __ ] with Jake Paul we have a secret handshake check it out AC let me get that stop playing mean yeah we created that because we actually have so many things to get into here this has been a long time coming Jasper did bring up something and the reason W was created was because the other products in the category had harmful dyes parabens sulfates hormone disruptors and so we wanted to create the better for you vitamin infused product and and Sean's a co-owner just signed today yesterday for the show but we we'll get into all of that we we've been you know bringing sea on for like we've been talking for like a month and a half yes sir yes sir um it is currently May we've been doing a lot of shoots this podcast will probably come out at post W launch you can get I'm so drunk I'm sorry y'all you can get it in uh Walmart every Walmart you in Paca Walmart get it in you in Pensacola it's in Walmart in Kentucky Walmart Walmart so basically uh we we brought in the greatest people in the world to help build W and Sean is one of those people but dialing everything back we will get into the company the body washes how this all came about but uh we've been wanting to do this podcast and thanks for joining us BR hey guys hey thanks for joining us right did you uh yeah I did you sh for an hour bro did you did you do do we know do we set the stage of the day and the fact that Jasper's slash right now okay cool y drunk is a [ __ ] y like double drunk yep yep yep you drunk yeah all that so um but just winding everything back uh I think we've been friends for a long time in fact you were the first guest on this show oh [ __ ] crazy Zoom crazy that's right that's right that's right the first ever episode you zoomed in and that's crazy we're thankful we're thankful for our friendship and it's pretty cool that now we're here again today uh getting less views than before and that's fire that's it congratulations less views we're not we're not it was it was a joke it was a joke if you watching this please like and comment cuz we falling off right now but man by the time this comes out you're going to be getting ready for me RAB how do you say his name I don't remember morab is iTab or or I don't know me that's got to be it me but you got to say it with the emphasis look meab mirab meab meab there you go there you go so yeah I should be getting ready hopefully I ain't got nothing scheduled hopefully uh you know Uncle Dana will call me say hey buddy you want to fight in in here and there and there and then I'm d b boom and that that's how that works what's up with everybody on your body though everybody talking [ __ ] even people youat I wanted to bring up yeah and he's like saying like he's trying to post about you even yesterday it is weird but when you concuss someone you know what I just say they don't think as well as they used to so I think he's still concussed and he's a little confused because he's talking [ __ ] still he not in his right mind because I can just throw up another post go because it's a throwback Thursday it's a throwback Friday do you think do you think people don't respect you enough cuz I I see that as your friend an unbiased like they just see social media and podcasts and the the hair and stuff like that and then they just sh week but I [ __ ] with you I appr that um I don't think it is well you can't you know I think it's fine I think you're jealous I ain't going to lie I got some inches under here let's smell that hair you can smell my [ __ ] must who I do think I feel a little bit disrespected as the champ but I think that last fight against Che kind of you know shut a little bit of people up canny go five rounds Cheeto beat me before the Alo fight um shut a lot of people up canny grapple didn't have to Grapple cuz he couldn't take me down yeah Alo couldn't take you down I think that was the biggest thing where they were like yo that's his weakness like yeah wrestle him down and then he just proved everyone wrong that's what's so interesting about this morab fight is he's supposedly well he is he's [ __ ] good at wrestling he's really really good at wrestling he's boring as [ __ ] and no one will there won't be one comment saying yeah right he's actually kind of fun not one person I'm com won I'm com you can I ask you something would you put yourself in your own top five Strikers in the UFC oh I'm yeah yo easily who's your Mount Rushmore strikker well I I mean I would unbiasedly I would put him as number one because adna is in like top three but he also like got beat by put that [ __ ] down boy he did uh bro I'm up there I'm up there Max is really good Max super his striking that's a good top five there that's four me Max Elia adaga uh I'm sure I'm missing some your with a one would it be that's that's a minus one Mount rmore is four yeah but I only got four but if you throw the five in it's a plus one isn't there only four yeah but but you ready to throw the five up I'm four all right that's my more but yeah once again uh this is a [ __ ] ass podcast so we apologize hey but something something you just touched on you talked about Fighters being fun and interesting how much and you're you're a superstar how much of you being a superstar how much of any fighter being a superstar comes down to them being fun and interesting as you are and how much of it comes down to their actual fighting good question uh well who's a super who who obviously Connor comes to mind I think he's he's a character he's fun he's interesting who else comes to mind is like a superstar I would say Izzy gives that off I think he's an interesting guy other than that there's not like a ton of fun like Ryan Garcia is doing a really good job right now of being [ __ ] interesting being a character uh I think that's fentel I think it's drugs as well I wouldn't deny that but he's still making people interested in Ryan versus Devon Haney was an interesting fight not because Devon Haney that dude's boring as [ __ ] you think he did them roids no I don't think Ryan did I think Devon needs to take that L he being a [ __ ] about I think the craziest [ __ ] you said to me and like I don't even know if we want to put this in there or bring it up but we we can always remove it but uh because of your your situation with the ostarine and you said to me like and it I like fully felt your energy you're like I swear on my daughter's life I never did that and you got popped for it yeah same thing happened uh to Ryan right now he popped for aost the low super low level a some [ __ ] like a trillionth of a gr the same thing happened to me uh so when that came out with Ryan like I truly truly didn't believe he took anything because it was the same [ __ ] and it happens to a lot of [ __ ] ostarine happens to how does that happen it's called the tainted supplement so if you're taking anything that has protein in it that's not third party tested uh could not just protein any kind of supplement that's not third party tested it's either NSF or there's a bunch of different third party tests but if you're not if you're taking something that doesn't have that there's chances there could be something in it but austram people pop for that all the time my case was not that big of a deal cuz I wasn't as huge of a star as I am now but it still was like a big deal because of my name the reason it's going so crazy right now is because Ryan G is a superstar so people are freaking out but it happens to a lot of athletes I just before we move past it I just on that Superstar topic how is that is that Superstar factor that that someone like you has someone like Ryan has someone like Connor has is it something you're born with or is it is it a practice is it something you can learn and do you sit back and like think like oh how can I go viral today how can I I think it's both I think you have to want to be a superstar there's some guys in the UFC like I want to make more money I want this I want that but they don't really want to be a superstar you you got to want it you got to you got to have some kind of vision a long time before well and and also like who you are as a person you have to have that like Fire Within still though like before you got into want famous I want to be in the NFL I want to be NBA I wanted to be a [ __ ] athlete when I was young was instilled I was just for whatever reason I wanted to make it when I was young I'm from H in Montana like small ass can I ask you something what's your opinion on like the take b nickel takes like where he's like super friendly and humble and like I think he's a sweet ass [ __ ] they love him but like bro that [ __ ] pisses me off I think that [ __ ] is cool too n like you're a hum like [ __ ] talk your [ __ ] you're what 670 like bro talk your [ __ ] like it it kind of bores me no I get yeah I mean that's that's some people's opinion is like he's too nice too humble too that but he's being himself um but he's also super young in the sport I think he and he's still pretty what is he 28 you're in a sport of War if I was playing like [ __ ] Cricket I would be like yeah like but that's that's the thing is for for for a character like him what it seems like is that's what he's in is the sport of war and that's it he's not in the sport of entertainment he's a nice ass sweetheart get there is some people that that understand both sides of things but I also have respect for and I see when someone's that's strictly in the sport of if I play chess with you I'm going to be like good game and I'm going to shake your hand I talk [ __ ] be F ass to a PO it I'm going to be like [ __ ] you you need to get better at whatever you're doing dial dialing it back a little bit um to the aost stream thing I think it's like what do you think about Conor tweeting still at like 3:00 a.m. like coked out he he he he sent shots at me and Ryan talking [ __ ] but it's it's crazy coming from Connor who literally got out of the usada pool to do steroid like legit steroids so it's kind of wild and I was the biggest Connor fan for a long time in the last couple weeks ever since he sent that wasn't even a couple weeks ago probably a week ago I've been trying to hate him I've been trying to be like [ __ ] you Connor but I can't I love Connor I it's like I am excited for his fight coming up I'm excited I want you know I'm all about it what's the fight is it Chandler Chandler in June it's going to be big they just been trying to do it for a long time so I didn't know if it still still I think officially I think it's I think I think the craziest part about it is what like eight weeks before a fight that he's still like coked and drunk out of his mind who you got though who that's a good it is crazy that he still like he tweeted that deleted like 20 minutes later he was definitely [ __ ] up on well that's what I was going to say we can't just Grace past that do you is that that's a that's a bold thing to say do you you know he's on coke is that a is that are you [ __ ] gills I don't know anything but I know for certain that he's brother like look at the time of the tweets and look at what he's saying like also and he's like known for this simar tweets yeah yeah I don't know just manic brother I think he is I do think Ryan is I think he when he said he was playing into it a little bit I I think he's kind of using that I think he's [ __ ] crazy what what what would happen if you and Ryan boxed that's I mean there's only one way to find out he has a lot better chances of beating me in a boxing match than he does in a real fight keep up I do I I [ __ ] I truly believe in myself that's how I got to the [ __ ] position I'm in right now I can box I can throw hands um I don't think it'd be easy by any means I do think it's possible I beat him I'm not saying my my odds are great but I do believe I could beat Ryan Bo if there was anybody you could box for your first boxing match debut who are you Bo give an easy fight give me Deon Haney you give [Laughter] me honest answer uh I mean if we're I I would say Floyd if I Pi if I could sit here and pick who I box first boxing fight I pick Floyd because it would be the biggest most crazy most legendary fight maybe not most legendary some people for me okay but outside of that on a skill based level oh I I could hang with some good [ __ ] pro boxers I'm undefeated in boxing you think you think if you and uh ilot boxed that' be ilot is very very [ __ ] skilled boxing that's an interesting question so who what what professional boxer would you equate your PA Mike Tyson I know of Devon Haney now because Ryan Garcia beat him uh dvon Davis he's really short I know him um maybe smacking [ __ ] up though he does he that little guy he can't he can't ride roll coasters though that is true so there's a there's a tradeoff like Cruz fight he was riding a roller coaster no like I'm talking about like at the fair oh no you know like there there's a trade-off in life you know where things get weird it's like it's like yo he's really good but you can't even just hit Dante fan brother can't even ride the top not a Dante fan that's not what I'm wait what did what did I say to say I'm not a you didn't say I mean I don't think he knows that it's a short joke I don't think he picked up on you want me tell him I was joking shut the [ __ ] up I get I say that was a joke I'm what are you trying to say I'm but are you trying to insinuate that I'm short no honestly you're probably what five you're 5'9 you're like 5' seven and a half stop doing stop doing it stop doing that cuz [ __ ] is going to see this and be like he's 5'6 actually if you watching this and you think I'm 5'6 and you want to try me in person please any [ __ ] who see me out I'm punching your [ __ ] out I'm like 5'9 on a good day when when I'm lying to women I'm 5'10 for sure who's gonna ID me I'm wearing forces I'm a [ __ ] liar all right so now for the truth jakee he's like what like he's 5 No but don't do that bro all right all right we won't we'll cut that out like yeah n don't cut it out n don't see me and see these but you know dvon is 5'5 legit that's cool bro I know but is that not short just be honest is that five five short for a grown man for a grown man is that short you can be a fan I'm not I'm a fan of javante and he's five that's a little little bro all right the joke went over his head anyways so the short joke [ __ ] is trying to play me like I'm short no no no we're we're not we're not you're [ __ ] tall all right let's pivot yeah so um SI yeah sh shout out to the shout out to the pivot but but yeah like Jasper's a little riled up things are on edge he's a little he's a little turned up it's been a long day a long two days we've been shooting uh because we have a new [ __ ] company did we say we talk about that yet I we said in the beginning raise your arms up [ __ ] goed [ __ ] goed shout out to w a fun few days it's been a fun few days days you're going to see the content rolling out um but you speaking of but Ruby Rose did a good job oh my God I wanted to bite that M listen anyway if you're near wmart if you're watching this right now I don't give a [ __ ] what you're doing you could be taking care of your kid you could be taking care of your elderly parents [ __ ] them go to Walmart June 1st Nationwide I don't care if you in Pensacola you in Massachusetts all in places that sound [ __ ] stupid there's a Walmart there and you go there it's a better for you product vitamin ifuse number [ __ ] one yeah no basically I I think dialing back like the business story of it because you're also like a very smart businessman intellectual doing everything you do in and outside of the Ring which a lot of people don't have which contributes to you being uh the biggest in my opinion the biggest UFC star um but yeah we we basically I guess this is the podcast where we tell people where W came from but um we started building this company like a year and a half ago and really saw how all these other companies like as we move into better for you products and less harmful products we saw how the leaders in the space didn't have the best formulas didn't have the best manufacturing had all of these harmful substances in it and we're also brands from when I was like 9 years old I don't want to list names but they're still like having all the Shelf space in stores and I was just like this is wild like this is boring this is lame the the the we need something new we need something that's better uh males have vitamin uh deficiencies like crazy especially with magnesium Jasper just can't get enough of it uh especially with magnesium um and biotin is in the body wash uh vitamin E one two of the best vitamins for your skin and hair um but as The Story Goes long story short we we come up with this brand that represents so many things um but I think winning in everyday life whether you're the valedictorian whether you are the high school jock whether you're philanthropist now you have a product that you can embody and wear every single day that's increasing your vitamin intake that is less harmful to you that's where the idea came from and just being the winning formula in category uh went to Walmart pitched them the whole idea they [ __ ] loved it helped us build the brand even and come up with the scent profiles and all the things that are the the most popular um and this has been something I've wanted to do for so long we had to bring in the best people to be a part of it the winners in their category and that's number one Numero Uno sha Ali here um and he instantly saw the vision and already in the past couple of days it's been like super fun filming all the content behind yeah I was pumped when you [ __ ] called me appreciate you thinking of me and uh excited to help grow this business [ __ ] it's needed it's needed we're going to take over the whole bathroom you know tooed if you [ __ ] with the dogs and cows and chickens dog in you I know what I got that dog in me and I use it so be dog free baby am I missing anything with that no I think that was great the one the one thing I would touch on and you did in a way but it's it is body wash it is body spray it is deodorant but it also is there's an ethos that stands behind this brand which is the ethos that you stand for and it's the ethos that you stand for and the ethos that you stand for and the one that I stand for if I say ethos again I'm GNA start stumbling over my words but it's it's it's like you said it it doesn't the winners in life aren't just you you're on a big stage in life you're you're you're crushing it in every aspect financially you're a star you're leading your sport that's awesome on every [ __ ] level it's it's an encouragement to to young men all around the world to [ __ ] get up off their ass and get sh it don't matter if you score high on a test you whatever the [ __ ] it is that you do well maybe not so it matters what the [ __ ] you do but it also doesn't matter what the [ __ ] you do anybody is a winner as long as you put in the work and you have the will to win and I love it I I would say that's wrong I would say that not anybody is a winner and I think that's something that the brand also stands for like you really got to win you got to as you have the will to win no I'm just saying I think that's an important point cuz we live in a world today where a lot of people think everybody can be a winner that's not true if you Los you might be a loser and if you're a loser the good news is there's a hidden l in the logo actually we'll trace it for you with our graphic design team there's a hidden l in the logo because and I I I wanted to make sure that was was a thing because the biggest loss of my life turned out to be the biggest W in my life and I always had the saying like two L's make a w and when I lost to Tommy Fury it was embarrassing all these things but I realized I wasn't focused I wasn't as locked in as I could be the team around me from a boxing standpoint wasn't good I was having personal issues with relationships and all of these things that I had to shed and grow from and I grew into this new and completely different person but I wouldn't have done that if I didn't lose on the biggest stage possible and I think that was part of the ethos ethos ethos ethos of the brand was to encourage people that in their lowest moments to turn those into into their biggest W's eventually when Jake just said that the biggest loss of his life ended up being the biggest W of his life you said same yeah yeah same what what was that story for supposedly lost for lost to Cheeto back in 2020 August it it was I mean it sucked at the time but I it didn't suck too bad because I was like okay I didn't lose because I you know and it was different I wasn't I mean I was focused everything went good training camp everything was good but I was like that sucks I'm goingon to get that back someday when the time is right and then my last fight two two months ago in Miami headline I'm the champ defending my belt against that same guy how rewarding was that three and a half years later August three and a half years later boom beat his ass as a fan of yours it made it so sweet because of all the doubters that constantly like put you down and didn't believe in you and said he was going to destroy you and then you he literally like you embarrass him that was a performance of a life you embarrassed the [ __ ] out of him and I think that's literally a prime example of turning l l into into a w and I really that's what that's where the hidden l in the brand in the logo is um and representing that every single day when you see these products in your bathroom and when we say we have a saying it's not just a product it's a lifestyle absolutely trademarked Incorporated All Rights Reserved 2024 brother uh but but yeah man it's it's an honor to have you a part of this and uh we we really made what we think are the best products on the market from the body wash being exfoliating vitamin infused to the body spray what we found out is a lot of these fragrances like you get like these high-end designer brands that have like $500 colognes turns out it only cost them a dollar to make that and they're literally making like $499 on top of that so we had a fine fragrance house is what these places are called and we got the super expensive scents and gave it to people to what they're worth like we're not trying to these products are super super affordable and I think it's so funny because that's the world we live in where like you just label something and get like a European girl to go this is one of the lower priced men's care products on the market yeah if I'm not mistaken and it's it's the $500 fragrance in the affordable bottle because we want everyone we've been using a body wash in the past two days since we got the samples after the shoot and I personally want to say I got the in there you could bleep it out whatever you want to do W's winning n b genuinely that's that's the saying is the it's winning formula cuz it really is like it really is if if we're going to call our company [ __ ] W it has to be the best we the winners winning product indeed indeed winning customers all that type of [ __ ] indeed better Derek today he's just got a punch I'm not Li I talked to him before he left he wants to punch you up bro he's got a punchable face I like him though it's weird it's like God I like that guy but I want [ __ ] KO pick him up and like it's okay boom one more to the liing me earlier and I'm just letting you know don't shoot the messenger on God he said he wants to get in the ring with you I can call him really he oh yeah he he you want to call him yeah where is he at is wait uh no call no call he's coming up oh um he's talking smack he said he actually wants a spar I swear to God he said he wants to get percentage should I go you guys I literally out let that's crazy timeing saying talk [ __ ] to my face if you're going to talk [ __ ] that's crazy timing what were you saying they were telling me you want to get in the ring and Spar bit or they didn't say Spar they said fight yeah I'm down to do either but uh yeah no I'm just sick of the [ __ ] [ __ ] you've been saying on your podcast uh you called me you made fun of my weight and you called me gay I did not no I well okay okay you said that he wouldn't ever say that what you got to say what your chest that's what I just [ __ ] said bro I he was like oh if I if stand on it you talking to him you talking to him you ain't talking to me my assistant Sono would would piece you he's never boxed a day he never I'm here to fight your video I'm here to fight you what did I what was the first thing I said to you when when I saw you what was the first thing I said to you that we could fight no I said you look thick wait but when we were talking earlier weren't you saying he's a [ __ ] and you wanted to get a ring with him and all type [ __ ] what I'm saying right now say it then I just said the [ __ ] ring so we can after this we have a ring 2 feet away and he's a [ __ ] and whatever else you was saying to me yeah he's [ __ ] what about my hair say something about my hair I I already said that at the W shoot that you look like you haven't showered in [ __ ] a week okay all right d hey buddy hey hey what's your long-term play not no but see you guys you guys are making me seem crazy you're out of your mind he Derek Dereck go warm up hit the hit the heavy back H the warm up is almost listen legendary as send location dble PIV go warm up hey hey double pivot sit sit I'm not [ __ ] no I I'll sit and talk but I'm not [ __ ] no sit on the floor walk you want to take my seat hey how much how much of what's going on ch ch how much of what's going on is is a character versus like actual delusion how much is a character yeah decent uh I would say there are times where I know what I have to do for my boxing career to like like we all why is he laughing cuz you said career I beat your [ __ ] boy your [ __ ] [ __ ] bro you know what I I recall you did beat I recall calling steiny saying what the [ __ ] was that buddy I love steiny but I do remember watching that and thinking I wasn't proud of that I was not proud of that from steiny and I wish I wish he would come to the gym I wish he'd get in there I wish he'd train a little bit and I wish he would have a rematch but that's on him I've been trying to get the rematch but he's been ding me do you think Derek won he said I won I thought I thought he won I'd have to rewatch but I do think I come on baby the comments have [ __ ] dragged me for months after that [ __ ] 99% of the comments say I lost so please say it one more time Sean no I said it what I said it's like therapy or something no but to answer your question uh we all know uh uh as Fighters there's a side of promotion stop [ __ ] first of all Gus shut the [ __ ] up our our audio guys uh like can't stop laughing is that the facial his facial hair or is what he's saying bro that's bold of you to talk facial hair bro that's bold of you to I'm not Li you look dirty you look like Jeffrey done training right Jesus I train every day but anyway we know like there's two sides of of promotion as well as the actual athletic competition that is Combat Sports so there are times where I might play up a little bit like hey promoting but let him go let him go all right if you if all if you think I'm all promoting that I'll see you in the [ __ ] ring and I'll knock both you either of you out well um well Jake's a [ __ ] fat [ __ ] right now he weighs like 240 so I got I goty I gotta pick my words wisely like he's Jake's 240 I I know I know but like I'm not going to sit here and pick a fight against somebody that's 240 when I'm se's my weight class when I stopped you in one round like just like but when I was getting started out of come this is where I'm at since then I told him he could have somebody tag team I'm down I'm down to fight anybody in this [ __ ] room not one person in this room I'm the best part about this is like uh right after this we I think you're you're down to do like one round or three minutes right I mean I'd prefer 12 but we okay yeah 12 I mean that my biggest advantage in the ring ring is my cardio I do 12 12 okay so no I have a genuine question so five round I'm not I'm not one have I ever said I'm a UFC fighter no I'm just say we can box I'm just saying that's I'm used to five you want to do three we could do that aren't you trying to be a boxer with your [ __ ] Ryan Garcia call he would knock knock your [ __ ] ass out so quickly it wouldn't be close I'm one and0 pro boxing what are you actually I saw that video I saw video I'm also want to know thank you officially hey they count that's real commiss but uh I didn't mean I didn't mean to take I didn't mean to take over the pot I just wanted to a couple you definitely didn't yeah okay I try I'm trying to help you no we love you go warm up yeah yeah go warm up the bags don't warm up too much though don't get tired how much do you wa right now without Timberlands and jean shorts on high 120 low 13 no without lying though okay that [ __ ] is you think you got you got him one round I think I could beat him I think I can beat him I I think I could handicap myself to three just put on one glove I could do that what do you think actually happens now when you go downstairs and he gets in that ring like what's his plan that's what I don't get about him but that's why it's that's do me a favor that's why he's Cloud it up because love [ __ ] up [ __ ] he's going he's going to try to Yap he's going to try to talk please just go 100% yeah no actually actually please go 100% if he signs a consent form we'll have him no we've already got like multiple consent forms for better media with like death wavers [ __ ] no no no but he needs it he needs that I'll go like 40 no go like 75 Sean I'm I'm going to be honest bro don't even go 20% he's the nice [ __ ] bro don't do that bro you want him to go 100% no no to be honest but just like work with him and then just like maybe just just like a really good punching and then he'll give up 75% uh I'm nervous man I'm shaking for Derek yeah yeah that's good I understand that there a couple flinches if you Flinch hard enough the the wind coming off you will put him down let him walk you down and bait him boom sleeping what's your next upcoming fight a maraba jaaba and when is that uh not nothing yet I'm hoping for September maybe October maybe November maybe December I'm F ready to go baby what if it was next month I wouldn't be ready to go I like I like 10 to 12 weeks 10 to 12 he likes eight I mean I I normally do like 10 yeah just like but I've been super the first few weeks are [ __ ] pre-amps this Camp I'm channeling my Ryan Garcia would you ever do a Ryan Garcia regiment during Camp drink and smoke every night you do a little I I probably yeah I'm not actually doing that for the people out there he's locked in clocked in locked in locked in ready to go yeah May 20th we start but by the time the people see this it'll be uh June or something like that that is crazy you're fighting Mike that you fought Ben asran wrestler good good [ __ ] UFC was really good UF bit Tyron Woodley twice Anderson Silva knockout of the year with Nate Robinson can't forget about deji deji the the the goat do we say Gibb or is that like that's just crazy resume like literally [ __ ] C by way thank you Gib cuz we had a really good party after he knocked you the [ __ ] out who W we're skipping two professional boxers this always no no the recent ones this always happens I'm trying to just think cuz two cuz this is what everybody asked for this is what everybody asked for who who are the two professional boxers you fighted you got to name them Andre August and Ryan Borland go okay people don't people are like fight a pro boxer and then I do and then they're like that was boring as a man of combat he what were 10 and one nine and one nine and one what is your take on his [ __ ] all of his fights and who he's fighting in the competition dude I've been excited as [ __ ] since I started I remember you I remember the first time I watched was the Nate Robinson I watched that one at home and then uh I don't remember what it was after that but I remember watching Ben Asam in Atlanta I think that was the first time we actually met was right after the fight I think we hugged I was like y I picked you up you carried me back to the locker room that it was love at first sight that was crazy actually yeah actually I [ __ ] with him we became best friends like a couple days later you going to leave me hanging no no I would it's my eyebrow but uh yeah no I think he's obviously super skilled I think it's and I I it's inspired me even in the position I'm at UFC World Champ sexy you know what I mean like tall dark handsome TR inspired me just business the business uh side of things that you've done I've always thought putting on massive fight that's why I'm such a huge Conor fan cuz the pay-per-views he's done is so [ __ ] he's been fighting for four years and [ __ ] that he's been doing the massive fights the fights I get excited for there's a few UFC fights the high the big big fights that I get excited for but every time you fought even when uh Logan fought Floyd I was [ __ ] like excited like all fight week so i' I've been inspired from what you've done from a business side from the boxing side they even just start so not late but for a boxer but these boxers start when they're [ __ ] three four years old like Ryan and tank like they're young buck the Tik Tac I sent you of Devon Haney's debut fight yeah it's wild he was fighting a five foot Mexican in a in a bar was it Dante bro if I show you this [ __ ] oh no I did see that I did see that I did see that when you started even seeing that first video fighting Anderson Silva six fights in bro like do you know how insane that is he's one of the greatest correct me if I'm wrong UFC Strikers in history yeah 100% so does that make me one of the greatest UFC Strikers and one of the greatest wrestlers cuz wood but Ben ask was but Nate Diaz is ducking me in MMA oh am crazy I am weak that's a sick fight MMA I I wish it was that would happened right after the boxing same he's actually ducking it which is why it's crazy because he's not he's not in UFC no but we we upped it to 15 million damn that's crazy though that would be a I like Nate Diaz but that would be such a fun buildup he actually doesn't want to do it all Sean how do you genuinely Jake's not here it's me and you in a room actually how do you see that fight going for Jake what MMA him you're not here J for Nate in MMA keep it a bean God it's it's so hard to you're a big [ __ ] right now on what weight would it be5 185 I don't hate I don't I it's not a it's a winable fight for you I really do think that but Nate is so [ __ ] you would have to do what I did against aljo and morab do not let that [ __ ] grab you not that you can't wrestle cuz I know you can wrestle but once he starts grabbing you and doing Jiu-Jitsu if he gets on top his little he likes his little trips it would be hard for you to win I feel like if he if he started grappling just pure Jiu-Jitsu if it let's be real if it goes to the floor is he [ __ ] if he's on his back Nate's not like a super strong guy so if you learn how to like I mean I'm sure you know how to get up to a single legegg stuff like that but then you start getting your neck grabbed I don't know how much Jiu-Jitsu you know I mean Nate's a [ __ ] high Lev black belt um if you could keep it standing 100% there's winnable ways there if he if he went to the ground feel like he might be able to grab your neck no that that's exactly how I feel about it if I don't get guillotined yeah then I win the fight because even if he was on top take your back but even if he was on top of me I would just throw him off of me cuz he's also the weakest puncher I've ever fought like when he was hitting me I was I almost like started laughing I'm I'm not even saying this to talk [ __ ] out of everyone I've sparred in my whole entire life and everyone I fought his punches are even me we I don't think you ever landed a punch on me is that true well that's not true so I don't anyone no I'm literally not even talking [ __ ] which is why I think it's funny that he dropped Connor and [ __ ] cuz it's just like how Conor with like to the ground yeah like with a straight left hand yeah which is crazy like I I'm not just talking [ __ ] when I say that and I've told you I've literally told you this you told me this after the fight yeah I was like he is the weakest puncher I've ever fought in my life who's who's the weakest puncher you've ever you've ever come to face um there I mean there's been so many fights where I later didn't even get hit um uh does that like make you jaded at all when you get into a fight and you don't really get love that [ __ ] I prefer not to get hit at all but like if I was you and I wasn't get hit at all I'd probably work less no no no no I I know I don't get hit because I work that hard so if I didn't work hard I know I'd probably get hit I'm just a lazy [ __ ] so so here you are on top of the world we're launching [ __ ] W going to be a billion dollar business [ __ ] you I always forget uh UFC champ accomplishing all your goals what do you want next uh what are what is the threeyear fiveyear for Sean I I truly do want to get a boxing fight I'm not I'm not super set on that to where like I'm like going to be [ __ ] if it doesn't happen I do think it'll be interesting especially if I go out there knock morab out Ryan does his thing I think there's a [ __ ] sweet fight there if it doesn't happen not that worried about it want to go out there beat morab I'd like to you know if Max Max and Elia fight I would like to fight go move up to 45 fight the winner of that um you know maybe have three to five maybe have a few more kids definitely want another little baby I love kids my fite pump him out shout out to Danny who's your top pick in a boxing fight though if you if you could choose your Ryan now was like the I mean what he after dvon Beat Ryan I was like javante then Ryan goes out there does his thing really though I think Dante do you is that is that not a big [ __ ] leap Ryan like you said before he's been doing this his whole life one thing that's been proven is that the crossover it's it's not a good return Fury he did his thing okay the excep is the exception we've seen it with okay but then Anthony Joshua put his ass t was crazy super night night he was I'm I'm here for big fights like I wanted to get into the UFC and I wanted to make big fights watching Conor versus Floyd I'm like that [ __ ] happened really happened hey you versus Derek that could be as big as Connor in Floyd but no but I I think the craziest [ __ ] about Conor versus Floyd is that overall it was a W for everyone involved so there's certain fights where it just like doesn't matter what happens that's the world we live in yeah I mean UFC told me they said if the if the fight's big enough and it'll make the UFC money they'll do it what means more to you your your your record being pre or the amount of money you're making all right let me ask you something it's about to get real J's drunk Jasper's drunk as [ __ ] y record or money [ __ ] it depends the Gap like like the gap of money if it's like an extra 10 15 20 million but I lose a couple important fights probably not you just take like 150 million I'll be like like [ __ ] my record baby yeah it depends on the gap of money Jake Paul is not here right now just like a Mayweather Conor McGregor you taking that fight ver Jake yeah no he's my buddy I could I mean I don't I don't even no I no funny no there's you know what's funny is always in my Snapchat story once once a day pretty much someone says we knock out Jake Paul like there's every sing all the time for so long people just want to see me get [ __ ] is good though that's like the thing yeah but I'm sensitive it is funny though people [ __ ] love to hate confidence the craziest thing though actually about both of you like I met you very recently like I didn't realize you're as like normal as you are I don't know why I thought you violent like you guys are both like very goofy mellow and stupid and c and and awesome it's like the greatest thing ever like I couldn't believe when I met you you're like one of us like yeah I wouldn't think you're a [ __ ] yeah one of the coolest people in the world for sure yeah but not a lot of people uh can like I don't know we have like a weird it's hard toes Meat Heads I'm like this the this my dog I think it's a little bit of dark humor too it's like some [ __ ] up [ __ ] that we say off camera [ __ ] sometimes but I think it's like there's a certain yeah like that's how my whole group is back home it's like we all just we're all just kind of [ __ ] dumb I'm smart but like they're dumb well someone commented like yo Jake Paul's the dumbest genius in the world and I was just like I say that [ __ ] all the time you wed up the other day and I was like this is the most genius dumbass in the world no jokes Hey Brother chill buddy trying to get me cancelled no what how old are you 23 are you really yeah no you're not he's not is he what do you think think what did you think Oh no you're 267 27 what did you think he was I thought he was older I thought he was like 27 26 yeah a niggaer mature was that ladies you got a boo you got a girl you just be slanging she timeout right now I don't really talk about she don't time out it's a little tricky she not taking care of herself what do you guys think about Tom Brady R you watch it yeah they kept comp panning to you every 5 Seconds bro I swear there's a huge camer sitting there the whole time but it's cool to see Netflix going hard like that cuz they went hard they swing that meat around huha yeah let's pivot yeah just sorry about him I'm drunk man not yeah but but it was it was great it wasar they should have got rid of most of the football players going up there yeah there's a couple ones Ben afflac is that who that was on there that was wild that was so weird that was so weird it was cool to see how [ __ ] less sensitive people are becoming I feel like feel like it's recently like there's a big push back I think people got sick of it we went super super super PC for a long time people were like wait a second we like being able to say what we want to say I saw kill Tony say oh type of crazy [ __ ] on there that watch every [ __ ] Monday you were on kill Tony yeah how old are you actually buddy I'm a comedian Budd full time no yeah I was on that I was nervous as hell though I was like just being it's a live I do podcast once a week like me and Tim do our podcast every [ __ ] week but to be there in front of an audience live it's weird it's a different kind of well so you say Tim but let's let's talk about actually the fact that you get trained by by one of the greatest boxers of all time it's really that's something what's happened like that's crazy working with Canelo as your as your coach that's what I'm saying people don't going to be Ryan but like yeah that is true I never even thought about that for did you even know that this guy proba even know that that orange [ __ ] is nice wait will I get cancelled by the ginger community no you're black oh no my dad my dad's Ginger and I'm I'm like this [ __ ] is ginger bro he be shaving he be shaving his beard and I zoom in zoom in it's it's slightly orange so I'm a quarter ginger on South Park they made fun of Gingers and that [ __ ] made the news I [ __ ] with the ginger people but like y'all [ __ ] you like redhead girls oh yeah was Super Soaker but anyway yeah like y'all [ __ ] is orange and that's okay but back to you one of y'all that's not drunk I got a question cuz this guy clipped out a lot did Tim actually like you guys about him like saying to fight that was yeah that was real Tim always be talking [ __ ] to the like he's been doing that for so long so what happened he just talk I mean he just he Alo the knee's coming Alo you got to shoot Alo watch out for this like he's been saying that since I've been in the UFC like my debut vers terion where he was talking [ __ ] to terion too and uh he just does it every fight but this happened to just be crazy timing to like Tim you got Tim like alre you got to go and like literally he he like that's when he threw that left hand or whatever stepped into Southpaw and uh or stepped into Orthodox and got dropped it was it was funny the timing because he's like Al you got to go I don't I truly don't think that's why that's not why Alo went I bet you could I bet Alo didn't even hear that but Tim's always chirping and stuff but people on the internet are [ __ ] mad about that a lot of them actually like it I'll say majority of people are thinking that's the funniest [ __ ] ever there's a couple [ __ ] that are like you should be banned think it's a fight would you run the alra fight back or one and done never I like that why would I yeah am I supposed to top that you know what I'm saying I got love for Alo we had him on the show and he he seems like a good dude I actually don't mind Alo I does that ever happen where like you'll have a personal relationship with someone personal runin with them and it's all great but then now all of a sudden you have to fight each other I've never had I've not of running with someone that's been like uh more than like I've ran into aljo morab at the UFC I'm like hey what's up talk to him a little bit you know nothing no ill will um but I haven't had like a run with someone I actually lik them mhm and then at the fight them so you're not friends with any any other UFC fighters oh I have a there's there's a couple guys in my in my weight class that I train with at the lab that are like climbing the r uh ladders what happened with uh the 125 pounder I I don't even know his name and I'm not I'm just not like yeah what's his name I Alexander pania bro this story is actually kind of funny so 2016 I think it was it was like 3 and0 4 and0 and I was still fighting at like I fought at 125 not too long before that I fought at like 130 which is in a weight class was like so I wasn't like a 155 like I am now I was probably like 14 back then and uh Henry cejudo comes in I'm three or four and0 at the point at this point it comes in with this kid Alexander PTO just won The Ultimate Fighter I think he's got his UFC debut or it's his second UFC fight he's a couple weeks out from his fight I'm [ __ ] the night before me and Tim ripping bongs like hanging out being goofballs and [ __ ] so the next morning so we brought him in for sparring hry sudo brings in Alexander you're 4-0 he's King [ __ ] he he's just won The Ultimate Fighter and so they write the names on on the board who who you're sparring I'm like oh [ __ ] I got Alexander Pantoja versus me for one round one round he has three rounds so you write one one name then usually you you spar with one guy then they go out you spar with a fresh guy they go out spar with the fresh guy that's usually how it works so my name was just up there for one round that's it we Spar one round I didn't know anything about him cuz I I didn't really watch it like that 25 I don't really watch 25ers like that but somebody's like oh [ __ ] that's he a black belt he just won The Ultimate Fighter I was like oh [ __ ] I got to [ __ ] Focus up here first round boom Dro him with a liver kick and I wasn't going to post I record all my rounds I have so many sparring rounds like I wasn't going to post it was and for some reason I don't know why he would talk [ __ ] and bring it up cuz I literally I don't know you know know I don't know if you know how it works but you finish a guy the fight's over right no no did he um so I finished him the first round he hit him boom with the liver I posted the video yesterday and I've had it for a long time I didn't want to post it CU you don't post sparring like that but he just kept bringing it up so boom finished him first round um then uh after the first round round I go to walk out and Henry's over there crying box of Kleenex just like [ __ ] wiping his tears crying we want you for a second round so mad that this little like I was nobody just finished his dude he's in the UFC he's supposed to be the man finish him in the first round so Henry's crying saying he wants another round um so I piece him up again in the second round and I'm I'm dying at this point my lungs are burning I'm not in shape for fight I I'm nowhere near in Camp for a fight and I my lungs are hurting and uh Henry again crying blowing his nose and like I want you for a third and Benson comes in Benson Henderson absolute Legend comes in and was yelling cuz that's his it was the his gym the MMA lab we don't let people come in our gym and make us tired and blah blah blah and I'm [ __ ] just just huffing and puffing I just got done work in this dude for 10 minutes finished him in the first round did I say that liver kick um we'll put the footage I have the foot yeah it's right there insert the footage so third round come out boom piece him up again and he's so I don't know why he keeps bringing up this bringing this up in the media I think it's because people ask him but I don't know why he doesn't just say yeah yeah no no I don't want to talk about it he keeps saying like he's like oh I got in I found his range and [ __ ] I'm like bro you you stopped him in one round stopped him in round one and let him live and continue to fight for round two these delusional uh like wild people are weirdos but the reason I posted cuz he kept bringing it up exactly wait so is he the champ now at 125 yeah okay but why does he still want to talk [ __ ] to you if you got [ __ ] up that's what I'm saying I don't know either either you drop to 125 and get that no I can't drop to 125 that's too much now you're a thick [ __ ] I am a thick but yeah I SP I think it's important for up and cominging Spar uh fighters to record their rounds and watch their rounds not for that this reason you know but just to I've improve so much watching my sparring y I have thousands of rounds maybe not thousands hundreds of rounds from 10 years ago on my on my computer of uh it's like NFL team is watching footage the time [ __ ] 100% got to watch that [ __ ] that's I I have every single round recorded and and again I I don't post sparring either exactly you know put in a highlight video make a vlog boom we're sparring people but it's never like [ __ ] up your guy yeah exactly but Mike Perry honestly like what he's been doing is pretty Fu he went to Bare knuckle that [ __ ] just meant for him bare knuckle fighting it's crazy different going crazy he's doing good he's [ __ ] undefeated over there he's beating some really good guys stay over here [ __ ] [ __ ] only place that you should be getting tickets from is game time.co it's it's the only place I go it is the only place you can possibly go they have 110% price match guarantee that's what we use to get our tickets for the NBA Finals you can get $20 off your first order go to gametime.co JJ a $20 off your first order they're doing a deal specifically for y'all and you could see where your tickets are before you buy them seeing the seats they have all of the these great policies last 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platform there is Mike Paul versus Jake Tyson here's my official prediction tell us and even if even if it's against me like it's not it's not I do think you're going to beat Mike Tyson uh it's crazy that I even saying that out loud right now cuz you're fighting Mike Tyson it's [ __ ] crazy even just when we were walking down the the street today people all genders all ages knew you were fighting Mike Tyson it's such a massive fights live on Netflix which is [ __ ] crazy it's in a stadium which is [ __ ] crazy it is crazy I believe in you I see what you I see what you're doing I see you know that you believe in yourself Mike Tyson is uh hasn't fought in however long it's been so for him to just come up and get a fight be I I'm sure is going to be in as good a shape as he possibly could be in but it's just you know it's it's it's it's not his time right now I love Mike Tyson I never actually met him but I love Mike Tyson I do think Jake's gonna get the job done and I do think eight rounds eight two-minute rounds eight two-minute rounds I believe I believe you could put them away in the later rounds you know five six seven eight I do think you could put it put him down which is crazy to even [ __ ] think you rap yeah that's fire I'm just lazy and inconsistent that's not a w no that sh it is not you start using Brandon yell at him every day but cuz you can actually spit that's fire no but but people know him now from like podcasting they don't know he's a rapper and hurts his soul J sick name Lil jizz what J JZ that's good that's good you should switch your [ __ ] I switch my [ __ ] from come Master to kill Jas bro honestly though that's I think singing rapping spitting is one of the things that if I could switch talents be doing something like that that's good or twerking I ain't going to lie you shook that [ __ ] earlier I got a I got a thing on me you that [ __ ] wiggle a little bit let's let's pivot though cuz yep hit a pivot uh yeah do we have a speaker should we play Jasper's new song or something you got a new one I thought you were lazy some new [ __ ] go ahead play on your phone just put it in the speaker put it in the mic too this the [ __ ] I'm dropping when I'm Indie that sound decent I'm not rapping either I'm yapping that's not going to get you drunk yo I made this beat that's crazy I like the way you look I won't lie you got something I need you my with a fly girl like you doing with no guy a little sh don't really go outside I'm not crazy right place and right time you all smiles and pretty light brown [Music] [Music] like that better if I forget you but I just can't time saying do better and I'm sure you can find that guy that's worth all right cut it cut it cut it that's that's enough that's enough that's enough that's enough for real can't give the whole thing it's not out yet yeah hey good [ __ ] that's fire I'll be rapping though but that's some pop [ __ ] just cuz I can do it so why are you consistent cuz I'm lazy and jaded and and spoiled yeah it's unfortunate maam shout out to the homies for a lot of talented people out there that just are yeah don't smoke crack yo also there there is a parallel there don't do don't do that there's a parallel with the same thing he's talking about I think Fighters probably where it's like you could have all the talent in the world he's got that's why I get so [ __ ] mad at him it's cuz he has all the talent in the world really I get more pissed off than he gets and he could be a superstar but he just is lazy he doesn't put the work in he's not he's not strategic and it is hard when you got when you live in a crib in Puerto Rico right you got chefs and [ __ ] and you fly private with me yeah that's it that's it bro that's it you got to you got get paychecks and [ __ ] y'all got to evict me that's not a bad idea honestly I think we talked about it let's make I was I'm H we had a conversation but I just can't I can't because I love you so much I need you but then I'll probably be more like need you y yeah I guarante and then we you would still have to like fly in once a week to to do the pods and it would be resentment and then I I'll go out like and I'll try to start shooting at y'all oh my God I guarantee I would be in the position I'm in if I if I had money and like had already made it like financially had [ __ ] I wouldn't have made it that's why people think I'm crazy but CC the other side of it is like boom right so I'm from com California same hey shout out my [ __ ] yeah man I was homeless for the first half of my life mom's a drug addict dad's a gang member I've never had anything in my life right and my whole life has been music I dropped out in ninth grade I was like I'm going to make music my dad kicks me out he's like you can't live under this roof like be more like your brothers my brothers are [ __ ] star students one got a full ride scholarship loser all all type of [ __ ] nerd ass [ __ ] all those [ __ ] are fat and unemploy now one dropped out of school a full rise scholarship and is just sitting at home right so boom from having nothing to like me saying I'm going to risk everything that I have in my life to become a music artist and it works I get to a certain place and I'm like damn I did exactly I hit a ceiling right so it's like now I had to recalibrate he got a big record deal and then and then like use I crashed out and became a m addict for four four days a week for 30 like 90 days oh it's not bad but then I moved cuz my homeboy was like you need to move and I was like nah [ __ ] that I made a million I ain't going to move I'm going to maintain this lifestyle I'm a junkie but I'm rich yep I crashed out and was like yeah I need to move lost 60 lbs went to Puerto Rico locked in recalibrated and now I'm ready to be but that's that's here's the problem we run into now is that you've recalibrated and now it's still it's been 6 months the album's supposed to be 6 months ago and we're still waiting for the album that's the problem and that's what you got to work on never too late though let's start it let's get because you're vitamin deficient right yeah yeah cuz like a lot of people can't think straight when they're vitamin deficient and all that a week ago kind of elaborated on that so yeah this isn't therapy um I got shout out Suzie right right huh Susie but she's hot is she not you think my therapist you guys got the same one I could pee and vape on this podcast I got to go pee go pee I could pee yeah I mean I think we I think we end the episode because uh let's wrap it up you can get W available at Walmart anyway if you walk into Walmart whether you with your mom your daddy you by yourself you go in that [ __ ] men body care aisle you buy that and comment down below what you thought of the episode for um us being brain fried over and uh jper but Buzz also comment cuz this coming out when the product releases comment your favorite scent and sent $10,000 right no I'm send you 1,000 I ain't got 10,000 for you but I'll send you 1,000 I'll send someone 10,000 he'll send you 10,000 I'll send you a th000 and I'm going through the comments for sure anyway good luck Charlie and if you got a test soon good luck on that [ __ ] that's what we [Music] do what are those 8 O gloves I want you to know they were talking up there he ain't going easy so be ready all right legit be ready buddy I'm using these bags don't show Too Much don't show we're boxing we're boxing I don't I do that on accident sometimes just know that that might come up just keep your hands up I'm just saying I might throw that up I haven't knocked someone out in a while just cuz my last fight didn't go off it went off five rounds I've been like craving just putting someone's lights out lately it's weird versus your boy better Derek I I hope Sean isn't nice and just [ __ ] him up that's your that's your trainee [ __ ] D all righty folks welcome to your main event of the evening starting out first in the loser corner 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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXPZ1KzdpsY	4,103	mXPZ1KzdpsY	2024-06-20 00:00:00	well well well ladies and gentlemen do we have a special episode for you today none other than sugar Shan om Ali the current UFC bantamweight champion a legend in his own right this episode was off the cusp we were a little turned up Jasper was really really drunk so we weren't really prepared for this at all the conversations definitely got wild and obviously as you guys have seen over maybe the past week or so we launched a new company called w am men's carine in Walmart this company is so near and dear to my heart and I partnered with Shawn to bring this Vision to life amongst other celebrities artists and athletes that we are announcing over the next couple of weeks here get your w at Walmart it is very very very very very good stuff and yes you heard the news I am fighting Mike Perry on July 20th it is going down I'm still fighting Mike Tyson November 15th that is happening but I'm staying active knocking out Mike Perry on July 20th and I'm excited for y'all to listen to this episode and he the vision of w how it all came together and how Shawn got involved and then everything to do with Shawn's career this podcast has been a long time coming but prepare yourself for some idiocracy per usual uh this is [ __ ] with Jake Paul we have a secret handshake check it out AC let me get that stop playing mean yeah we created that because we actually have so many things to get into here this has been a long time coming Jasper did bring up something and the reason W was created was because the other products in the category had harmful dyes parabens sulfates hormone disruptors and so we wanted to create the better for you vitamin infused product and and Sean's a co-owner just signed today yesterday for the show but we we'll get into all of that we we've been you know bringing sea on for like we've been talking for like a month and a half yes sir yes sir um it is currently May we've been doing a lot of shoots this podcast will probably come out at post W launch you can get I'm so drunk I'm sorry y'all you can get it in uh Walmart every Walmart you in Paca Walmart get it in you in Pensacola it's in Walmart in Kentucky Walmart Walmart so basically uh we we brought in the greatest people in the world to help build W and Sean is one of those people but dialing everything back we will get into the company the body washes how this all came about but uh we've been wanting to do this podcast and thanks for joining us BR hey guys hey thanks for joining us right did you uh yeah I did you sh for an hour bro did you did you do do we know do we set the stage of the day and the fact that Jasper's slash right now okay cool y drunk is a [ __ ] y like double drunk yep yep yep you drunk yeah all that so um but just winding everything back uh I think we've been friends for a long time in fact you were the first guest on this show oh [ __ ] crazy Zoom crazy that's right that's right that's right the first ever episode you zoomed in and that's crazy we're thankful we're thankful for our friendship and it's pretty cool that now we're here again today uh getting less views than before and that's fire that's it congratulations less views we're not we're not it was it was a joke it was a joke if you watching this please like and comment cuz we falling off right now but man by the time this comes out you're going to be getting ready for me RAB how do you say his name I don't remember morab is iTab or or I don't know me that's got to be it me but you got to say it with the emphasis look meab mirab meab meab there you go there you go so yeah I should be getting ready hopefully I ain't got nothing scheduled hopefully uh you know Uncle Dana will call me say hey buddy you want to fight in in here and there and there and then I'm d b boom and that that's how that works what's up with everybody on your body though everybody talking [ __ ] even people youat I wanted to bring up yeah and he's like saying like he's trying to post about you even yesterday it is weird but when you concuss someone you know what I just say they don't think as well as they used to so I think he's still concussed and he's a little confused because he's talking [ __ ] still he not in his right mind because I can just throw up another post go because it's a throwback Thursday it's a throwback Friday do you think do you think people don't respect you enough cuz I I see that as your friend an unbiased like they just see social media and podcasts and the the hair and stuff like that and then they just sh week but I [ __ ] with you I appr that um I don't think it is well you can't you know I think it's fine I think you're jealous I ain't going to lie I got some inches under here let's smell that hair you can smell my [ __ ] must who I do think I feel a little bit disrespected as the champ but I think that last fight against Che kind of you know shut a little bit of people up canny go five rounds Cheeto beat me before the Alo fight um shut a lot of people up canny grapple didn't have to Grapple cuz he couldn't take me down yeah Alo couldn't take you down I think that was the biggest thing where they were like yo that's his weakness like yeah wrestle him down and then he just proved everyone wrong that's what's so interesting about this morab fight is he's supposedly well he is he's [ __ ] good at wrestling he's really really good at wrestling he's boring as [ __ ] and no one will there won't be one comment saying yeah right he's actually kind of fun not one person I'm com won I'm com you can I ask you something would you put yourself in your own top five Strikers in the UFC oh I'm yeah yo easily who's your Mount Rushmore strikker well I I mean I would unbiasedly I would put him as number one because adna is in like top three but he also like got beat by put that [ __ ] down boy he did uh bro I'm up there I'm up there Max is really good Max super his striking that's a good top five there that's four me Max Elia adaga uh I'm sure I'm missing some your with a one would it be that's that's a minus one Mount rmore is four yeah but I only got four but if you throw the five in it's a plus one isn't there only four yeah but but you ready to throw the five up I'm four all right that's my more but yeah once again uh this is a [ __ ] ass podcast so we apologize hey but something something you just touched on you talked about Fighters being fun and interesting how much and you're you're a superstar how much of you being a superstar how much of any fighter being a superstar comes down to them being fun and interesting as you are and how much of it comes down to their actual fighting good question uh well who's a super who who obviously Connor comes to mind I think he's he's a character he's fun he's interesting who else comes to mind is like a superstar I would say Izzy gives that off I think he's an interesting guy other than that there's not like a ton of fun like Ryan Garcia is doing a really good job right now of being [ __ ] interesting being a character uh I think that's fentel I think it's drugs as well I wouldn't deny that but he's still making people interested in Ryan versus Devon Haney was an interesting fight not because Devon Haney that dude's boring as [ __ ] you think he did them roids no I don't think Ryan did I think Devon needs to take that L he being a [ __ ] about I think the craziest [ __ ] you said to me and like I don't even know if we want to put this in there or bring it up but we we can always remove it but uh because of your your situation with the ostarine and you said to me like and it I like fully felt your energy you're like I swear on my daughter's life I never did that and you got popped for it yeah same thing happened uh to Ryan right now he popped for aost the low super low level a some [ __ ] like a trillionth of a gr the same thing happened to me uh so when that came out with Ryan like I truly truly didn't believe he took anything because it was the same [ __ ] and it happens to a lot of [ __ ] ostarine happens to how does that happen it's called the tainted supplement so if you're taking anything that has protein in it that's not third party tested uh could not just protein any kind of supplement that's not third party tested it's either NSF or there's a bunch of different third party tests but if you're not if you're taking something that doesn't have that there's chances there could be something in it but austram people pop for that all the time my case was not that big of a deal cuz I wasn't as huge of a star as I am now but it still was like a big deal because of my name the reason it's going so crazy right now is because Ryan G is a superstar so people are freaking out but it happens to a lot of athletes I just before we move past it I just on that Superstar topic how is that is that Superstar factor that that someone like you has someone like Ryan has someone like Connor has is it something you're born with or is it is it a practice is it something you can learn and do you sit back and like think like oh how can I go viral today how can I I think it's both I think you have to want to be a superstar there's some guys in the UFC like I want to make more money I want this I want that but they don't really want to be a superstar you you got to want it you got to you got to have some kind of vision a long time before well and and also like who you are as a person you have to have that like Fire Within still though like before you got into want famous I want to be in the NFL I want to be NBA I wanted to be a [ __ ] athlete when I was young was instilled I was just for whatever reason I wanted to make it when I was young I'm from H in Montana like small ass can I ask you something what's your opinion on like the take b nickel takes like where he's like super friendly and humble and like I think he's a sweet ass [ __ ] they love him but like bro that [ __ ] pisses me off I think that [ __ ] is cool too n like you're a hum like [ __ ] talk your [ __ ] you're what 670 like bro talk your [ __ ] like it it kind of bores me no I get yeah I mean that's that's some people's opinion is like he's too nice too humble too that but he's being himself um but he's also super young in the sport I think he and he's still pretty what is he 28 you're in a sport of War if I was playing like [ __ ] Cricket I would be like yeah like but that's that's the thing is for for for a character like him what it seems like is that's what he's in is the sport of war and that's it he's not in the sport of entertainment he's a nice ass sweetheart get there is some people that that understand both sides of things but I also have respect for and I see when someone's that's strictly in the sport of if I play chess with you I'm going to be like good game and I'm going to shake your hand I talk [ __ ] be F ass to a PO it I'm going to be like [ __ ] you you need to get better at whatever you're doing dial dialing it back a little bit um to the aost stream thing I think it's like what do you think about Conor tweeting still at like 3:00 a.m. like coked out he he he he sent shots at me and Ryan talking [ __ ] but it's it's crazy coming from Connor who literally got out of the usada pool to do steroid like legit steroids so it's kind of wild and I was the biggest Connor fan for a long time in the last couple weeks ever since he sent that wasn't even a couple weeks ago probably a week ago I've been trying to hate him I've been trying to be like [ __ ] you Connor but I can't I love Connor I it's like I am excited for his fight coming up I'm excited I want you know I'm all about it what's the fight is it Chandler Chandler in June it's going to be big they just been trying to do it for a long time so I didn't know if it still still I think officially I think it's I think I think the craziest part about it is what like eight weeks before a fight that he's still like coked and drunk out of his mind who you got though who that's a good it is crazy that he still like he tweeted that deleted like 20 minutes later he was definitely [ __ ] up on well that's what I was going to say we can't just Grace past that do you is that that's a that's a bold thing to say do you you know he's on coke is that a is that are you [ __ ] gills I don't know anything but I know for certain that he's brother like look at the time of the tweets and look at what he's saying like also and he's like known for this simar tweets yeah yeah I don't know just manic brother I think he is I do think Ryan is I think he when he said he was playing into it a little bit I I think he's kind of using that I think he's [ __ ] crazy what what what would happen if you and Ryan boxed that's I mean there's only one way to find out he has a lot better chances of beating me in a boxing match than he does in a real fight keep up I do I I [ __ ] I truly believe in myself that's how I got to the [ __ ] position I'm in right now I can box I can throw hands um I don't think it'd be easy by any means I do think it's possible I beat him I'm not saying my my odds are great but I do believe I could beat Ryan Bo if there was anybody you could box for your first boxing match debut who are you Bo give an easy fight give me Deon Haney you give [Laughter] me honest answer uh I mean if we're I I would say Floyd if I Pi if I could sit here and pick who I box first boxing fight I pick Floyd because it would be the biggest most crazy most legendary fight maybe not most legendary some people for me okay but outside of that on a skill based level oh I I could hang with some good [ __ ] pro boxers I'm undefeated in boxing you think you think if you and uh ilot boxed that' be ilot is very very [ __ ] skilled boxing that's an interesting question so who what what professional boxer would you equate your PA Mike Tyson I know of Devon Haney now because Ryan Garcia beat him uh dvon Davis he's really short I know him um maybe smacking [ __ ] up though he does he that little guy he can't he can't ride roll coasters though that is true so there's a there's a tradeoff like Cruz fight he was riding a roller coaster no like I'm talking about like at the fair oh no you know like there there's a trade-off in life you know where things get weird it's like it's like yo he's really good but you can't even just hit Dante fan brother can't even ride the top not a Dante fan that's not what I'm wait what did what did I say to say I'm not a you didn't say I mean I don't think he knows that it's a short joke I don't think he picked up on you want me tell him I was joking shut the [ __ ] up I get I say that was a joke I'm what are you trying to say I'm but are you trying to insinuate that I'm short no honestly you're probably what five you're 5'9 you're like 5' seven and a half stop doing stop doing it stop doing that cuz [ __ ] is going to see this and be like he's 5'6 actually if you watching this and you think I'm 5'6 and you want to try me in person please any [ __ ] who see me out I'm punching your [ __ ] out I'm like 5'9 on a good day when when I'm lying to women I'm 5'10 for sure who's gonna ID me I'm wearing forces I'm a [ __ ] liar all right so now for the truth jakee he's like what like he's 5 No but don't do that bro all right all right we won't we'll cut that out like yeah n don't cut it out n don't see me and see these but you know dvon is 5'5 legit that's cool bro I know but is that not short just be honest is that five five short for a grown man for a grown man is that short you can be a fan I'm not I'm a fan of javante and he's five that's a little little bro all right the joke went over his head anyways so the short joke [ __ ] is trying to play me like I'm short no no no we're we're not we're not you're [ __ ] tall all right let's pivot yeah so um SI yeah sh shout out to the shout out to the pivot but but yeah like Jasper's a little riled up things are on edge he's a little he's a little turned up it's been a long day a long two days we've been shooting uh because we have a new [ __ ] company did we say we talk about that yet I we said in the beginning raise your arms up [ __ ] goed [ __ ] goed shout out to w a fun few days it's been a fun few days days you're going to see the content rolling out um but you speaking of but Ruby Rose did a good job oh my God I wanted to bite that M listen anyway if you're near wmart if you're watching this right now I don't give a [ __ ] what you're doing you could be taking care of your kid you could be taking care of your elderly parents [ __ ] them go to Walmart June 1st Nationwide I don't care if you in Pensacola you in Massachusetts all in places that sound [ __ ] stupid there's a Walmart there and you go there it's a better for you product vitamin ifuse number [ __ ] one yeah no basically I I think dialing back like the business story of it because you're also like a very smart businessman intellectual doing everything you do in and outside of the Ring which a lot of people don't have which contributes to you being uh the biggest in my opinion the biggest UFC star um but yeah we we basically I guess this is the podcast where we tell people where W came from but um we started building this company like a year and a half ago and really saw how all these other companies like as we move into better for you products and less harmful products we saw how the leaders in the space didn't have the best formulas didn't have the best manufacturing had all of these harmful substances in it and we're also brands from when I was like 9 years old I don't want to list names but they're still like having all the Shelf space in stores and I was just like this is wild like this is boring this is lame the the the we need something new we need something that's better uh males have vitamin uh deficiencies like crazy especially with magnesium Jasper just can't get enough of it uh especially with magnesium um and biotin is in the body wash uh vitamin E one two of the best vitamins for your skin and hair um but as The Story Goes long story short we we come up with this brand that represents so many things um but I think winning in everyday life whether you're the valedictorian whether you are the high school jock whether you're philanthropist now you have a product that you can embody and wear every single day that's increasing your vitamin intake that is less harmful to you that's where the idea came from and just being the winning formula in category uh went to Walmart pitched them the whole idea they [ __ ] loved it helped us build the brand even and come up with the scent profiles and all the things that are the the most popular um and this has been something I've wanted to do for so long we had to bring in the best people to be a part of it the winners in their category and that's number one Numero Uno sha Ali here um and he instantly saw the vision and already in the past couple of days it's been like super fun filming all the content behind yeah I was pumped when you [ __ ] called me appreciate you thinking of me and uh excited to help grow this business [ __ ] it's needed it's needed we're going to take over the whole bathroom you know tooed if you [ __ ] with the dogs and cows and chickens dog in you I know what I got that dog in me and I use it so be dog free baby am I missing anything with that no I think that was great the one the one thing I would touch on and you did in a way but it's it is body wash it is body spray it is deodorant but it also is there's an ethos that stands behind this brand which is the ethos that you stand for and it's the ethos that you stand for and the ethos that you stand for and the one that I stand for if I say ethos again I'm GNA start stumbling over my words but it's it's it's like you said it it doesn't the winners in life aren't just you you're on a big stage in life you're you're you're crushing it in every aspect financially you're a star you're leading your sport that's awesome on every [ __ ] level it's it's an encouragement to to young men all around the world to [ __ ] get up off their ass and get sh it don't matter if you score high on a test you whatever the [ __ ] it is that you do well maybe not so it matters what the [ __ ] you do but it also doesn't matter what the [ __ ] you do anybody is a winner as long as you put in the work and you have the will to win and I love it I I would say that's wrong I would say that not anybody is a winner and I think that's something that the brand also stands for like you really got to win you got to as you have the will to win no I'm just saying I think that's an important point cuz we live in a world today where a lot of people think everybody can be a winner that's not true if you Los you might be a loser and if you're a loser the good news is there's a hidden l in the logo actually we'll trace it for you with our graphic design team there's a hidden l in the logo because and I I I wanted to make sure that was was a thing because the biggest loss of my life turned out to be the biggest W in my life and I always had the saying like two L's make a w and when I lost to Tommy Fury it was embarrassing all these things but I realized I wasn't focused I wasn't as locked in as I could be the team around me from a boxing standpoint wasn't good I was having personal issues with relationships and all of these things that I had to shed and grow from and I grew into this new and completely different person but I wouldn't have done that if I didn't lose on the biggest stage possible and I think that was part of the ethos ethos ethos ethos of the brand was to encourage people that in their lowest moments to turn those into into their biggest W's eventually when Jake just said that the biggest loss of his life ended up being the biggest W of his life you said same yeah yeah same what what was that story for supposedly lost for lost to Cheeto back in 2020 August it it was I mean it sucked at the time but I it didn't suck too bad because I was like okay I didn't lose because I you know and it was different I wasn't I mean I was focused everything went good training camp everything was good but I was like that sucks I'm goingon to get that back someday when the time is right and then my last fight two two months ago in Miami headline I'm the champ defending my belt against that same guy how rewarding was that three and a half years later August three and a half years later boom beat his ass as a fan of yours it made it so sweet because of all the doubters that constantly like put you down and didn't believe in you and said he was going to destroy you and then you he literally like you embarrass him that was a performance of a life you embarrassed the [ __ ] out of him and I think that's literally a prime example of turning l l into into a w and I really that's what that's where the hidden l in the brand in the logo is um and representing that every single day when you see these products in your bathroom and when we say we have a saying it's not just a product it's a lifestyle absolutely trademarked Incorporated All Rights Reserved 2024 brother uh but but yeah man it's it's an honor to have you a part of this and uh we we really made what we think are the best products on the market from the body wash being exfoliating vitamin infused to the body spray what we found out is a lot of these fragrances like you get like these high-end designer brands that have like $500 colognes turns out it only cost them a dollar to make that and they're literally making like $499 on top of that so we had a fine fragrance house is what these places are called and we got the super expensive scents and gave it to people to what they're worth like we're not trying to these products are super super affordable and I think it's so funny because that's the world we live in where like you just label something and get like a European girl to go this is one of the lower priced men's care products on the market yeah if I'm not mistaken and it's it's the $500 fragrance in the affordable bottle because we want everyone we've been using a body wash in the past two days since we got the samples after the shoot and I personally want to say I got the in there you could bleep it out whatever you want to do W's winning n b genuinely that's that's the saying is the it's winning formula cuz it really is like it really is if if we're going to call our company [ __ ] W it has to be the best we the winners winning product indeed indeed winning customers all that type of [ __ ] indeed better Derek today he's just got a punch I'm not Li I talked to him before he left he wants to punch you up bro he's got a punchable face I like him though it's weird it's like God I like that guy but I want [ __ ] KO pick him up and like it's okay boom one more to the liing me earlier and I'm just letting you know don't shoot the messenger on God he said he wants to get in the ring with you I can call him really he oh yeah he he you want to call him yeah where is he at is wait uh no call no call he's coming up oh um he's talking smack he said he actually wants a spar I swear to God he said he wants to get percentage should I go you guys I literally out let that's crazy timeing saying talk [ __ ] to my face if you're going to talk [ __ ] that's crazy timing what were you saying they were telling me you want to get in the ring and Spar bit or they didn't say Spar they said fight yeah I'm down to do either but uh yeah no I'm just sick of the [ __ ] [ __ ] you've been saying on your podcast uh you called me you made fun of my weight and you called me gay I did not no I well okay okay you said that he wouldn't ever say that what you got to say what your chest that's what I just [ __ ] said bro I he was like oh if I if stand on it you talking to him you talking to him you ain't talking to me my assistant Sono would would piece you he's never boxed a day he never I'm here to fight your video I'm here to fight you what did I what was the first thing I said to you when when I saw you what was the first thing I said to you that we could fight no I said you look thick wait but when we were talking earlier weren't you saying he's a [ __ ] and you wanted to get a ring with him and all type [ __ ] what I'm saying right now say it then I just said the [ __ ] ring so we can after this we have a ring 2 feet away and he's a [ __ ] and whatever else you was saying to me yeah he's [ __ ] what about my hair say something about my hair I I already said that at the W shoot that you look like you haven't showered in [ __ ] a week okay all right d hey buddy hey hey what's your long-term play not no but see you guys you guys are making me seem crazy you're out of your mind he Derek Dereck go warm up hit the hit the heavy back H the warm up is almost listen legendary as send location dble PIV go warm up hey hey double pivot sit sit I'm not [ __ ] no I I'll sit and talk but I'm not [ __ ] no sit on the floor walk you want to take my seat hey how much how much of what's going on ch ch how much of what's going on is is a character versus like actual delusion how much is a character yeah decent uh I would say there are times where I know what I have to do for my boxing career to like like we all why is he laughing cuz you said career I beat your [ __ ] boy your [ __ ] [ __ ] bro you know what I I recall you did beat I recall calling steiny saying what the [ __ ] was that buddy I love steiny but I do remember watching that and thinking I wasn't proud of that I was not proud of that from steiny and I wish I wish he would come to the gym I wish he'd get in there I wish he'd train a little bit and I wish he would have a rematch but that's on him I've been trying to get the rematch but he's been ding me do you think Derek won he said I won I thought I thought he won I'd have to rewatch but I do think I come on baby the comments have [ __ ] dragged me for months after that [ __ ] 99% of the comments say I lost so please say it one more time Sean no I said it what I said it's like therapy or something no but to answer your question uh we all know uh uh as Fighters there's a side of promotion stop [ __ ] first of all Gus shut the [ __ ] up our our audio guys uh like can't stop laughing is that the facial his facial hair or is what he's saying bro that's bold of you to talk facial hair bro that's bold of you to I'm not Li you look dirty you look like Jeffrey done training right Jesus I train every day but anyway we know like there's two sides of of promotion as well as the actual athletic competition that is Combat Sports so there are times where I might play up a little bit like hey promoting but let him go let him go all right if you if all if you think I'm all promoting that I'll see you in the [ __ ] ring and I'll knock both you either of you out well um well Jake's a [ __ ] fat [ __ ] right now he weighs like 240 so I got I goty I gotta pick my words wisely like he's Jake's 240 I I know I know but like I'm not going to sit here and pick a fight against somebody that's 240 when I'm se's my weight class when I stopped you in one round like just like but when I was getting started out of come this is where I'm at since then I told him he could have somebody tag team I'm down I'm down to fight anybody in this [ __ ] room not one person in this room I'm the best part about this is like uh right after this we I think you're you're down to do like one round or three minutes right I mean I'd prefer 12 but we okay yeah 12 I mean that my biggest advantage in the ring ring is my cardio I do 12 12 okay so no I have a genuine question so five round I'm not I'm not one have I ever said I'm a UFC fighter no I'm just say we can box I'm just saying that's I'm used to five you want to do three we could do that aren't you trying to be a boxer with your [ __ ] Ryan Garcia call he would knock knock your [ __ ] ass out so quickly it wouldn't be close I'm one and0 pro boxing what are you actually I saw that video I saw video I'm also want to know thank you officially hey they count that's real commiss but uh I didn't mean I didn't mean to take I didn't mean to take over the pot I just wanted to a couple you definitely didn't yeah okay I try I'm trying to help you no we love you go warm up yeah yeah go warm up the bags don't warm up too much though don't get tired how much do you wa right now without Timberlands and jean shorts on high 120 low 13 no without lying though okay that [ __ ] is you think you got you got him one round I think I could beat him I think I can beat him I I think I could handicap myself to three just put on one glove I could do that what do you think actually happens now when you go downstairs and he gets in that ring like what's his plan that's what I don't get about him but that's why it's that's do me a favor that's why he's Cloud it up because love [ __ ] up [ __ ] he's going he's going to try to Yap he's going to try to talk please just go 100% yeah no actually actually please go 100% if he signs a consent form we'll have him no we've already got like multiple consent forms for better media with like death wavers [ __ ] no no no but he needs it he needs that I'll go like 40 no go like 75 Sean I'm I'm going to be honest bro don't even go 20% he's the nice [ __ ] bro don't do that bro you want him to go 100% no no to be honest but just like work with him and then just like maybe just just like a really good punching and then he'll give up 75% uh I'm nervous man I'm shaking for Derek yeah yeah that's good I understand that there a couple flinches if you Flinch hard enough the the wind coming off you will put him down let him walk you down and bait him boom sleeping what's your next upcoming fight a maraba jaaba and when is that uh not nothing yet I'm hoping for September maybe October maybe November maybe December I'm F ready to go baby what if it was next month I wouldn't be ready to go I like I like 10 to 12 weeks 10 to 12 he likes eight I mean I I normally do like 10 yeah just like but I've been super the first few weeks are [ __ ] pre-amps this Camp I'm channeling my Ryan Garcia would you ever do a Ryan Garcia regiment during Camp drink and smoke every night you do a little I I probably yeah I'm not actually doing that for the people out there he's locked in clocked in locked in locked in ready to go yeah May 20th we start but by the time the people see this it'll be uh June or something like that that is crazy you're fighting Mike that you fought Ben asran wrestler good good [ __ ] UFC was really good UF bit Tyron Woodley twice Anderson Silva knockout of the year with Nate Robinson can't forget about deji deji the the the goat do we say Gibb or is that like that's just crazy resume like literally [ __ ] C by way thank you Gib cuz we had a really good party after he knocked you the [ __ ] out who W we're skipping two professional boxers this always no no the recent ones this always happens I'm trying to just think cuz two cuz this is what everybody asked for this is what everybody asked for who who are the two professional boxers you fighted you got to name them Andre August and Ryan Borland go okay people don't people are like fight a pro boxer and then I do and then they're like that was boring as a man of combat he what were 10 and one nine and one nine and one what is your take on his [ __ ] all of his fights and who he's fighting in the competition dude I've been excited as [ __ ] since I started I remember you I remember the first time I watched was the Nate Robinson I watched that one at home and then uh I don't remember what it was after that but I remember watching Ben Asam in Atlanta I think that was the first time we actually met was right after the fight I think we hugged I was like y I picked you up you carried me back to the locker room that it was love at first sight that was crazy actually yeah actually I [ __ ] with him we became best friends like a couple days later you going to leave me hanging no no I would it's my eyebrow but uh yeah no I think he's obviously super skilled I think it's and I I it's inspired me even in the position I'm at UFC World Champ sexy you know what I mean like tall dark handsome TR inspired me just business the business uh side of things that you've done I've always thought putting on massive fight that's why I'm such a huge Conor fan cuz the pay-per-views he's done is so [ __ ] he's been fighting for four years and [ __ ] that he's been doing the massive fights the fights I get excited for there's a few UFC fights the high the big big fights that I get excited for but every time you fought even when uh Logan fought Floyd I was [ __ ] like excited like all fight week so i' I've been inspired from what you've done from a business side from the boxing side they even just start so not late but for a boxer but these boxers start when they're [ __ ] three four years old like Ryan and tank like they're young buck the Tik Tac I sent you of Devon Haney's debut fight yeah it's wild he was fighting a five foot Mexican in a in a bar was it Dante bro if I show you this [ __ ] oh no I did see that I did see that I did see that when you started even seeing that first video fighting Anderson Silva six fights in bro like do you know how insane that is he's one of the greatest correct me if I'm wrong UFC Strikers in history yeah 100% so does that make me one of the greatest UFC Strikers and one of the greatest wrestlers cuz wood but Ben ask was but Nate Diaz is ducking me in MMA oh am crazy I am weak that's a sick fight MMA I I wish it was that would happened right after the boxing same he's actually ducking it which is why it's crazy because he's not he's not in UFC no but we we upped it to 15 million damn that's crazy though that would be a I like Nate Diaz but that would be such a fun buildup he actually doesn't want to do it all Sean how do you genuinely Jake's not here it's me and you in a room actually how do you see that fight going for Jake what MMA him you're not here J for Nate in MMA keep it a bean God it's it's so hard to you're a big [ __ ] right now on what weight would it be5 185 I don't hate I don't I it's not a it's a winable fight for you I really do think that but Nate is so [ __ ] you would have to do what I did against aljo and morab do not let that [ __ ] grab you not that you can't wrestle cuz I know you can wrestle but once he starts grabbing you and doing Jiu-Jitsu if he gets on top his little he likes his little trips it would be hard for you to win I feel like if he if he started grappling just pure Jiu-Jitsu if it let's be real if it goes to the floor is he [ __ ] if he's on his back Nate's not like a super strong guy so if you learn how to like I mean I'm sure you know how to get up to a single legegg stuff like that but then you start getting your neck grabbed I don't know how much Jiu-Jitsu you know I mean Nate's a [ __ ] high Lev black belt um if you could keep it standing 100% there's winnable ways there if he if he went to the ground feel like he might be able to grab your neck no that that's exactly how I feel about it if I don't get guillotined yeah then I win the fight because even if he was on top take your back but even if he was on top of me I would just throw him off of me cuz he's also the weakest puncher I've ever fought like when he was hitting me I was I almost like started laughing I'm I'm not even saying this to talk [ __ ] out of everyone I've sparred in my whole entire life and everyone I fought his punches are even me we I don't think you ever landed a punch on me is that true well that's not true so I don't anyone no I'm literally not even talking [ __ ] which is why I think it's funny that he dropped Connor and [ __ ] cuz it's just like how Conor with like to the ground yeah like with a straight left hand yeah which is crazy like I I'm not just talking [ __ ] when I say that and I've told you I've literally told you this you told me this after the fight yeah I was like he is the weakest puncher I've ever fought in my life who's who's the weakest puncher you've ever you've ever come to face um there I mean there's been so many fights where I later didn't even get hit um uh does that like make you jaded at all when you get into a fight and you don't really get love that [ __ ] I prefer not to get hit at all but like if I was you and I wasn't get hit at all I'd probably work less no no no no I I know I don't get hit because I work that hard so if I didn't work hard I know I'd probably get hit I'm just a lazy [ __ ] so so here you are on top of the world we're launching [ __ ] W going to be a billion dollar business [ __ ] you I always forget uh UFC champ accomplishing all your goals what do you want next uh what are what is the threeyear fiveyear for Sean I I truly do want to get a boxing fight I'm not I'm not super set on that to where like I'm like going to be [ __ ] if it doesn't happen I do think it'll be interesting especially if I go out there knock morab out Ryan does his thing I think there's a [ __ ] sweet fight there if it doesn't happen not that worried about it want to go out there beat morab I'd like to you know if Max Max and Elia fight I would like to fight go move up to 45 fight the winner of that um you know maybe have three to five maybe have a few more kids definitely want another little baby I love kids my fite pump him out shout out to Danny who's your top pick in a boxing fight though if you if you could choose your Ryan now was like the I mean what he after dvon Beat Ryan I was like javante then Ryan goes out there does his thing really though I think Dante do you is that is that not a big [ __ ] leap Ryan like you said before he's been doing this his whole life one thing that's been proven is that the crossover it's it's not a good return Fury he did his thing okay the excep is the exception we've seen it with okay but then Anthony Joshua put his ass t was crazy super night night he was I'm I'm here for big fights like I wanted to get into the UFC and I wanted to make big fights watching Conor versus Floyd I'm like that [ __ ] happened really happened hey you versus Derek that could be as big as Connor in Floyd but no but I I think the craziest [ __ ] about Conor versus Floyd is that overall it was a W for everyone involved so there's certain fights where it just like doesn't matter what happens that's the world we live in yeah I mean UFC told me they said if the if the fight's big enough and it'll make the UFC money they'll do it what means more to you your your your record being pre or the amount of money you're making all right let me ask you something it's about to get real J's drunk Jasper's drunk as [ __ ] y record or money [ __ ] it depends the Gap like like the gap of money if it's like an extra 10 15 20 million but I lose a couple important fights probably not you just take like 150 million I'll be like like [ __ ] my record baby yeah it depends on the gap of money Jake Paul is not here right now just like a Mayweather Conor McGregor you taking that fight ver Jake yeah no he's my buddy I could I mean I don't I don't even no I no funny no there's you know what's funny is always in my Snapchat story once once a day pretty much someone says we knock out Jake Paul like there's every sing all the time for so long people just want to see me get [ __ ] is good though that's like the thing yeah but I'm sensitive it is funny though people [ __ ] love to hate confidence the craziest thing though actually about both of you like I met you very recently like I didn't realize you're as like normal as you are I don't know why I thought you violent like you guys are both like very goofy mellow and stupid and c and and awesome it's like the greatest thing ever like I couldn't believe when I met you you're like one of us like yeah I wouldn't think you're a [ __ ] yeah one of the coolest people in the world for sure yeah but not a lot of people uh can like I don't know we have like a weird it's hard toes Meat Heads I'm like this the this my dog I think it's a little bit of dark humor too it's like some [ __ ] up [ __ ] that we say off camera [ __ ] sometimes but I think it's like there's a certain yeah like that's how my whole group is back home it's like we all just we're all just kind of [ __ ] dumb I'm smart but like they're dumb well someone commented like yo Jake Paul's the dumbest genius in the world and I was just like I say that [ __ ] all the time you wed up the other day and I was like this is the most genius dumbass in the world no jokes Hey Brother chill buddy trying to get me cancelled no what how old are you 23 are you really yeah no you're not he's not is he what do you think think what did you think Oh no you're 267 27 what did you think he was I thought he was older I thought he was like 27 26 yeah a niggaer mature was that ladies you got a boo you got a girl you just be slanging she timeout right now I don't really talk about she don't time out it's a little tricky she not taking care of herself what do you guys think about Tom Brady R you watch it yeah they kept comp panning to you every 5 Seconds bro I swear there's a huge camer sitting there the whole time but it's cool to see Netflix going hard like that cuz they went hard they swing that meat around huha yeah let's pivot yeah just sorry about him I'm drunk man not yeah but but it was it was great it wasar they should have got rid of most of the football players going up there yeah there's a couple ones Ben afflac is that who that was on there that was wild that was so weird that was so weird it was cool to see how [ __ ] less sensitive people are becoming I feel like feel like it's recently like there's a big push back I think people got sick of it we went super super super PC for a long time people were like wait a second we like being able to say what we want to say I saw kill Tony say oh type of crazy [ __ ] on there that watch every [ __ ] Monday you were on kill Tony yeah how old are you actually buddy I'm a comedian Budd full time no yeah I was on that I was nervous as hell though I was like just being it's a live I do podcast once a week like me and Tim do our podcast every [ __ ] week but to be there in front of an audience live it's weird it's a different kind of well so you say Tim but let's let's talk about actually the fact that you get trained by by one of the greatest boxers of all time it's really that's something what's happened like that's crazy working with Canelo as your as your coach that's what I'm saying people don't going to be Ryan but like yeah that is true I never even thought about that for did you even know that this guy proba even know that that orange [ __ ] is nice wait will I get cancelled by the ginger community no you're black oh no my dad my dad's Ginger and I'm I'm like this [ __ ] is ginger bro he be shaving he be shaving his beard and I zoom in zoom in it's it's slightly orange so I'm a quarter ginger on South Park they made fun of Gingers and that [ __ ] made the news I [ __ ] with the ginger people but like y'all [ __ ] you like redhead girls oh yeah was Super Soaker but anyway yeah like y'all [ __ ] is orange and that's okay but back to you one of y'all that's not drunk I got a question cuz this guy clipped out a lot did Tim actually like you guys about him like saying to fight that was yeah that was real Tim always be talking [ __ ] to the like he's been doing that for so long so what happened he just talk I mean he just he Alo the knee's coming Alo you got to shoot Alo watch out for this like he's been saying that since I've been in the UFC like my debut vers terion where he was talking [ __ ] to terion too and uh he just does it every fight but this happened to just be crazy timing to like Tim you got Tim like alre you got to go and like literally he he like that's when he threw that left hand or whatever stepped into Southpaw and uh or stepped into Orthodox and got dropped it was it was funny the timing because he's like Al you got to go I don't I truly don't think that's why that's not why Alo went I bet you could I bet Alo didn't even hear that but Tim's always chirping and stuff but people on the internet are [ __ ] mad about that a lot of them actually like it I'll say majority of people are thinking that's the funniest [ __ ] ever there's a couple [ __ ] that are like you should be banned think it's a fight would you run the alra fight back or one and done never I like that why would I yeah am I supposed to top that you know what I'm saying I got love for Alo we had him on the show and he he seems like a good dude I actually don't mind Alo I does that ever happen where like you'll have a personal relationship with someone personal runin with them and it's all great but then now all of a sudden you have to fight each other I've never had I've not of running with someone that's been like uh more than like I've ran into aljo morab at the UFC I'm like hey what's up talk to him a little bit you know nothing no ill will um but I haven't had like a run with someone I actually lik them mhm and then at the fight them so you're not friends with any any other UFC fighters oh I have a there's there's a couple guys in my in my weight class that I train with at the lab that are like climbing the r uh ladders what happened with uh the 125 pounder I I don't even know his name and I'm not I'm just not like yeah what's his name I Alexander pania bro this story is actually kind of funny so 2016 I think it was it was like 3 and0 4 and0 and I was still fighting at like I fought at 125 not too long before that I fought at like 130 which is in a weight class was like so I wasn't like a 155 like I am now I was probably like 14 back then and uh Henry cejudo comes in I'm three or four and0 at the point at this point it comes in with this kid Alexander PTO just won The Ultimate Fighter I think he's got his UFC debut or it's his second UFC fight he's a couple weeks out from his fight I'm [ __ ] the night before me and Tim ripping bongs like hanging out being goofballs and [ __ ] so the next morning so we brought him in for sparring hry sudo brings in Alexander you're 4-0 he's King [ __ ] he he's just won The Ultimate Fighter and so they write the names on on the board who who you're sparring I'm like oh [ __ ] I got Alexander Pantoja versus me for one round one round he has three rounds so you write one one name then usually you you spar with one guy then they go out you spar with a fresh guy they go out spar with the fresh guy that's usually how it works so my name was just up there for one round that's it we Spar one round I didn't know anything about him cuz I I didn't really watch it like that 25 I don't really watch 25ers like that but somebody's like oh [ __ ] that's he a black belt he just won The Ultimate Fighter I was like oh [ __ ] I got to [ __ ] Focus up here first round boom Dro him with a liver kick and I wasn't going to post I record all my rounds I have so many sparring rounds like I wasn't going to post it was and for some reason I don't know why he would talk [ __ ] and bring it up cuz I literally I don't know you know know I don't know if you know how it works but you finish a guy the fight's over right no no did he um so I finished him the first round he hit him boom with the liver I posted the video yesterday and I've had it for a long time I didn't want to post it CU you don't post sparring like that but he just kept bringing it up so boom finished him first round um then uh after the first round round I go to walk out and Henry's over there crying box of Kleenex just like [ __ ] wiping his tears crying we want you for a second round so mad that this little like I was nobody just finished his dude he's in the UFC he's supposed to be the man finish him in the first round so Henry's crying saying he wants another round um so I piece him up again in the second round and I'm I'm dying at this point my lungs are burning I'm not in shape for fight I I'm nowhere near in Camp for a fight and I my lungs are hurting and uh Henry again crying blowing his nose and like I want you for a third and Benson comes in Benson Henderson absolute Legend comes in and was yelling cuz that's his it was the his gym the MMA lab we don't let people come in our gym and make us tired and blah blah blah and I'm [ __ ] just just huffing and puffing I just got done work in this dude for 10 minutes finished him in the first round did I say that liver kick um we'll put the footage I have the foot yeah it's right there insert the footage so third round come out boom piece him up again and he's so I don't know why he keeps bringing up this bringing this up in the media I think it's because people ask him but I don't know why he doesn't just say yeah yeah no no I don't want to talk about it he keeps saying like he's like oh I got in I found his range and [ __ ] I'm like bro you you stopped him in one round stopped him in round one and let him live and continue to fight for round two these delusional uh like wild people are weirdos but the reason I posted cuz he kept bringing it up exactly wait so is he the champ now at 125 yeah okay but why does he still want to talk [ __ ] to you if you got [ __ ] up that's what I'm saying I don't know either either you drop to 125 and get that no I can't drop to 125 that's too much now you're a thick [ __ ] I am a thick but yeah I SP I think it's important for up and cominging Spar uh fighters to record their rounds and watch their rounds not for that this reason you know but just to I've improve so much watching my sparring y I have thousands of rounds maybe not thousands hundreds of rounds from 10 years ago on my on my computer of uh it's like NFL team is watching footage the time [ __ ] 100% got to watch that [ __ ] that's I I have every single round recorded and and again I I don't post sparring either exactly you know put in a highlight video make a vlog boom we're sparring people but it's never like [ __ ] up your guy yeah exactly but Mike Perry honestly like what he's been doing is pretty Fu he went to Bare knuckle that [ __ ] just meant for him bare knuckle fighting it's crazy different going crazy he's doing good he's [ __ ] undefeated over there he's beating some really good guys stay over here [ __ ] [ __ ] only place that you should be getting tickets from is game time.co it's it's the only place I go it is the only place you can possibly go they have 110% price match guarantee that's what we use to get our tickets for the NBA Finals you can get $20 off your first order go to gametime.co JJ a $20 off your first order they're doing a deal specifically for y'all and you could see where your tickets are before you buy them seeing the seats they have all of the these great policies last 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platform there is Mike Paul versus Jake Tyson here's my official prediction tell us and even if even if it's against me like it's not it's not I do think you're going to beat Mike Tyson uh it's crazy that I even saying that out loud right now cuz you're fighting Mike Tyson it's [ __ ] crazy even just when we were walking down the the street today people all genders all ages knew you were fighting Mike Tyson it's such a massive fights live on Netflix which is [ __ ] crazy it's in a stadium which is [ __ ] crazy it is crazy I believe in you I see what you I see what you're doing I see you know that you believe in yourself Mike Tyson is uh hasn't fought in however long it's been so for him to just come up and get a fight be I I'm sure is going to be in as good a shape as he possibly could be in but it's just you know it's it's it's it's not his time right now I love Mike Tyson I never actually met him but I love Mike Tyson I do think Jake's gonna get the job done and I do think eight rounds eight two-minute rounds eight two-minute rounds I believe I believe you could put them away in the later rounds you know five six seven eight I do think you could put it put him down which is crazy to even [ __ ] think you rap yeah that's fire I'm just lazy and inconsistent that's not a w no that sh it is not you start using Brandon yell at him every day but cuz you can actually spit that's fire no but but people know him now from like podcasting they don't know he's a rapper and hurts his soul J sick name Lil jizz what J JZ that's good that's good you should switch your [ __ ] I switch my [ __ ] from come Master to kill Jas bro honestly though that's I think singing rapping spitting is one of the things that if I could switch talents be doing something like that that's good or twerking I ain't going to lie you shook that [ __ ] earlier I got a I got a thing on me you that [ __ ] wiggle a little bit let's let's pivot though cuz yep hit a pivot uh yeah do we have a speaker should we play Jasper's new song or something you got a new one I thought you were lazy some new [ __ ] go ahead play on your phone just put it in the speaker put it in the mic too this the [ __ ] I'm dropping when I'm Indie that sound decent I'm not rapping either I'm yapping that's not going to get you drunk yo I made this beat that's crazy I like the way you look I won't lie you got something I need you my with a fly girl like you doing with no guy a little sh don't really go outside I'm not crazy right place and right time you all smiles and pretty light brown [Music] [Music] like that better if I forget you but I just can't time saying do better and I'm sure you can find that guy that's worth all right cut it cut it cut it that's that's enough that's enough that's enough that's enough for real can't give the whole thing it's not out yet yeah hey good [ __ ] that's fire I'll be rapping though but that's some pop [ __ ] just cuz I can do it so why are you consistent cuz I'm lazy and jaded and and spoiled yeah it's unfortunate maam shout out to the homies for a lot of talented people out there that just are yeah don't smoke crack yo also there there is a parallel there don't do don't do that there's a parallel with the same thing he's talking about I think Fighters probably where it's like you could have all the talent in the world he's got that's why I get so [ __ ] mad at him it's cuz he has all the talent in the world really I get more pissed off than he gets and he could be a superstar but he just is lazy he doesn't put the work in he's not he's not strategic and it is hard when you got when you live in a crib in Puerto Rico right you got chefs and [ __ ] and you fly private with me yeah that's it that's it bro that's it you got to you got get paychecks and [ __ ] y'all got to evict me that's not a bad idea honestly I think we talked about it let's make I was I'm H we had a conversation but I just can't I can't because I love you so much I need you but then I'll probably be more like need you y yeah I guarante and then we you would still have to like fly in once a week to to do the pods and it would be resentment and then I I'll go out like and I'll try to start shooting at y'all oh my God I guarantee I would be in the position I'm in if I if I had money and like had already made it like financially had [ __ ] I wouldn't have made it that's why people think I'm crazy but CC the other side of it is like boom right so I'm from com California same hey shout out my [ __ ] yeah man I was homeless for the first half of my life mom's a drug addict dad's a gang member I've never had anything in my life right and my whole life has been music I dropped out in ninth grade I was like I'm going to make music my dad kicks me out he's like you can't live under this roof like be more like your brothers my brothers are [ __ ] star students one got a full ride scholarship loser all all type of [ __ ] nerd ass [ __ ] all those [ __ ] are fat and unemploy now one dropped out of school a full rise scholarship and is just sitting at home right so boom from having nothing to like me saying I'm going to risk everything that I have in my life to become a music artist and it works I get to a certain place and I'm like damn I did exactly I hit a ceiling right so it's like now I had to recalibrate he got a big record deal and then and then like use I crashed out and became a m addict for four four days a week for 30 like 90 days oh it's not bad but then I moved cuz my homeboy was like you need to move and I was like nah [ __ ] that I made a million I ain't going to move I'm going to maintain this lifestyle I'm a junkie but I'm rich yep I crashed out and was like yeah I need to move lost 60 lbs went to Puerto Rico locked in recalibrated and now I'm ready to be but that's that's here's the problem we run into now is that you've recalibrated and now it's still it's been 6 months the album's supposed to be 6 months ago and we're still waiting for the album that's the problem and that's what you got to work on never too late though let's start it let's get because you're vitamin deficient right yeah yeah cuz like a lot of people can't think straight when they're vitamin deficient and all that a week ago kind of elaborated on that so yeah this isn't therapy um I got shout out Suzie right right huh Susie but she's hot is she not you think my therapist you guys got the same one I could pee and vape on this podcast I got to go pee go pee I could pee yeah I mean I think we I think we end the episode because uh let's wrap it up you can get W available at Walmart anyway if you walk into Walmart whether you with your mom your daddy you by yourself you go in that [ __ ] men body care aisle you buy that and comment down below what you thought of the episode for um us being brain fried over and uh jper but Buzz also comment cuz this coming out when the product releases comment your favorite scent and sent $10,000 right no I'm send you 1,000 I ain't got 10,000 for you but I'll send you 1,000 I'll send someone 10,000 he'll send you 10,000 I'll send you a th000 and I'm going through the comments for sure anyway good luck Charlie and if you got a test soon good luck on that [ __ ] that's what we [Music] do what are those 8 O gloves I want you to know they were talking up there he ain't going easy so be ready all right legit be ready buddy I'm using these bags don't show Too Much don't show we're boxing we're boxing I don't I do that on accident sometimes just know that that might come up just keep your hands up I'm just saying I might throw that up I haven't knocked someone out in a while just cuz my last fight didn't go off it went off five rounds I've been like craving just putting someone's lights out lately it's weird versus your boy better Derek I I hope Sean isn't nice and just [ __ ] him up that's your that's your trainee [ __ ] D all righty folks welcome to your main event of the evening starting out first in the loser corner you have better day with a record of no wins no losses I beat ste's [ __ ] out no anything he is 5'7 120 lbs lost in the mile to better JoJo but he's still delusional in his fighting career and to my left in the winning Corner sponsored by W sugar sha Ali The Undefeated UFC champion of the world it's time to fight bring it to the center we already spoke about the rules in the locker room beforehand give me your glove give me your hand touch gloves I want a clean fair fight no no hits below the waist back to your Corners time you ready judge you ready and fight [Music] [Applause] I'm out of balance or something oh do Dodge that [ __ ] hold on hold on hold on hold [ __ ] come on come on just oh my God one back of the head no no no back of the head four ref didn't see it five six me in the eyes Walk This Way Walk This Way for me he's running Walk This Way for me my car run all right and we're in in that right that's called all right time time time one two that was a that was a slip four up six bro Rizo what the [ __ ] are you doing all right get up SLP all right come on time in come on got come on got you [ __ ] black I'm going to I need to work I need to see some work black UT D somebody said 10 seconds like 8 seconds ago all right great back to your corner back to your corner back to your corner stay in there you're doing good right now this feel good I feel good do you see that one I landed clean on his face I think we all terrible shut the [ __ ] up for once in your [ __ ] life shut the [ __ ] up Sean's doing half punches on him shut up I'll act like uh no don't act like bro I'm just I'm putting in work all right how this how you when you [ __ ] beat the old wash UFC fighters everybody comments you're fighting old was UFC fighters what do you think 10s I think they're right in in round two round two round two oh got him [ __ ] oh [Music] [ __ ] hey put that hey that that's a that's going to be a 10 count can't get me by the that's going to be a 10 count that's 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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXPZ1KzdpsY	4,103	mXPZ1KzdpsY	2024-06-20 00:00:00	well well well ladies and gentlemen do we have a special episode for you today none other than sugar Shan om Ali the current UFC bantamweight champion a legend in his own right this episode was off the cusp we were a little turned up Jasper was really really drunk so we weren't really prepared for this at all the conversations definitely got wild and obviously as you guys have seen over maybe the past week or so we launched a new company called w am men's carine in Walmart this company is so near and dear to my heart and I partnered with Shawn to bring this Vision to life amongst other celebrities artists and athletes that we are announcing over the next couple of weeks here get your w at Walmart it is very very very very very good stuff and yes you heard the news I am fighting Mike Perry on July 20th it is going down I'm still fighting Mike Tyson November 15th that is happening but I'm staying active knocking out Mike Perry on July 20th and I'm excited for y'all to listen to this episode and he the vision of w how it all came together and how Shawn got involved and then everything to do with Shawn's career this podcast has been a long time coming but prepare yourself for some idiocracy per usual uh this is [ __ ] with Jake Paul we have a secret handshake check it out AC let me get that stop playing mean yeah we created that because we actually have so many things to get into here this has been a long time coming Jasper did bring up something and the reason W was created was because the other products in the category had harmful dyes parabens sulfates hormone disruptors and so we wanted to create the better for you vitamin infused product and and Sean's a co-owner just signed today yesterday for the show but we we'll get into all of that we we've been you know bringing sea on for like we've been talking for like a month and a half yes sir yes sir um it is currently May we've been doing a lot of shoots this podcast will probably come out at post W launch you can get I'm so drunk I'm sorry y'all you can get it in uh Walmart every Walmart you in Paca Walmart get it in you in Pensacola it's in Walmart in Kentucky Walmart Walmart so basically uh we we brought in the greatest people in the world to help build W and Sean is one of those people but dialing everything back we will get into the company the body washes how this all came about but uh we've been wanting to do this podcast and thanks for joining us BR hey guys hey thanks for joining us right did you uh yeah I did you sh for an hour bro did you did you do do we know do we set the stage of the day and the fact that Jasper's slash right now okay cool y drunk is a [ __ ] y like double drunk yep yep yep you drunk yeah all that so um but just winding everything back uh I think we've been friends for a long time in fact you were the first guest on this show oh [ __ ] crazy Zoom crazy that's right that's right that's right the first ever episode you zoomed in and that's crazy we're thankful we're thankful for our friendship and it's pretty cool that now we're here again today uh getting less views than before and that's fire that's it congratulations less views we're not we're not it was it was a joke it was a joke if you watching this please like and comment cuz we falling off right now but man by the time this comes out you're going to be getting ready for me RAB how do you say his name I don't remember morab is iTab or or I don't know me that's got to be it me but you got to say it with the emphasis look meab mirab meab meab there you go there you go so yeah I should be getting ready hopefully I ain't got nothing scheduled hopefully uh you know Uncle Dana will call me say hey buddy you want to fight in in here and there and there and then I'm d b boom and that that's how that works what's up with everybody on your body though everybody talking [ __ ] even people youat I wanted to bring up yeah and he's like saying like he's trying to post about you even yesterday it is weird but when you concuss someone you know what I just say they don't think as well as they used to so I think he's still concussed and he's a little confused because he's talking [ __ ] still he not in his right mind because I can just throw up another post go because it's a throwback Thursday it's a throwback Friday do you think do you think people don't respect you enough cuz I I see that as your friend an unbiased like they just see social media and podcasts and the the hair and stuff like that and then they just sh week but I [ __ ] with you I appr that um I don't think it is well you can't you know I think it's fine I think you're jealous I ain't going to lie I got some inches under here let's smell that hair you can smell my [ __ ] must who I do think I feel a little bit disrespected as the champ but I think that last fight against Che kind of you know shut a little bit of people up canny go five rounds Cheeto beat me before the Alo fight um shut a lot of people up canny grapple didn't have to Grapple cuz he couldn't take me down yeah Alo couldn't take you down I think that was the biggest thing where they were like yo that's his weakness like yeah wrestle him down and then he just proved everyone wrong that's what's so interesting about this morab fight is he's supposedly well he is he's [ __ ] good at wrestling he's really really good at wrestling he's boring as [ __ ] and no one will there won't be one comment saying yeah right he's actually kind of fun not one person I'm com won I'm com you can I ask you something would you put yourself in your own top five Strikers in the UFC oh I'm yeah yo easily who's your Mount Rushmore strikker well I I mean I would unbiasedly I would put him as number one because adna is in like top three but he also like got beat by put that [ __ ] down boy he did uh bro I'm up there I'm up there Max is really good Max super his striking that's a good top five there that's four me Max Elia adaga uh I'm sure I'm missing some your with a one would it be that's that's a minus one Mount rmore is four yeah but I only got four but if you throw the five in it's a plus one isn't there only four yeah but but you ready to throw the five up I'm four all right that's my more but yeah once again uh this is a [ __ ] ass podcast so we apologize hey but something something you just touched on you talked about Fighters being fun and interesting how much and you're you're a superstar how much of you being a superstar how much of any fighter being a superstar comes down to them being fun and interesting as you are and how much of it comes down to their actual fighting good question uh well who's a super who who obviously Connor comes to mind I think he's he's a character he's fun he's interesting who else comes to mind is like a superstar I would say Izzy gives that off I think he's an interesting guy other than that there's not like a ton of fun like Ryan Garcia is doing a really good job right now of being [ __ ] interesting being a character uh I think that's fentel I think it's drugs as well I wouldn't deny that but he's still making people interested in Ryan versus Devon Haney was an interesting fight not because Devon Haney that dude's boring as [ __ ] you think he did them roids no I don't think Ryan did I think Devon needs to take that L he being a [ __ ] about I think the craziest [ __ ] you said to me and like I don't even know if we want to put this in there or bring it up but we we can always remove it but uh because of your your situation with the ostarine and you said to me like and it I like fully felt your energy you're like I swear on my daughter's life I never did that and you got popped for it yeah same thing happened uh to Ryan right now he popped for aost the low super low level a some [ __ ] like a trillionth of a gr the same thing happened to me uh so when that came out with Ryan like I truly truly didn't believe he took anything because it was the same [ __ ] and it happens to a lot of [ __ ] ostarine happens to how does that happen it's called the tainted supplement so if you're taking anything that has protein in it that's not third party tested uh could not just protein any kind of supplement that's not third party tested it's either NSF or there's a bunch of different third party tests but if you're not if you're taking something that doesn't have that there's chances there could be something in it but austram people pop for that all the time my case was not that big of a deal cuz I wasn't as huge of a star as I am now but it still was like a big deal because of my name the reason it's going so crazy right now is because Ryan G is a superstar so people are freaking out but it happens to a lot of athletes I just before we move past it I just on that Superstar topic how is that is that Superstar factor that that someone like you has someone like Ryan has someone like Connor has is it something you're born with or is it is it a practice is it something you can learn and do you sit back and like think like oh how can I go viral today how can I I think it's both I think you have to want to be a superstar there's some guys in the UFC like I want to make more money I want this I want that but they don't really want to be a superstar you you got to want it you got to you got to have some kind of vision a long time before well and and also like who you are as a person you have to have that like Fire Within still though like before you got into want famous I want to be in the NFL I want to be NBA I wanted to be a [ __ ] athlete when I was young was instilled I was just for whatever reason I wanted to make it when I was young I'm from H in Montana like small ass can I ask you something what's your opinion on like the take b nickel takes like where he's like super friendly and humble and like I think he's a sweet ass [ __ ] they love him but like bro that [ __ ] pisses me off I think that [ __ ] is cool too n like you're a hum like [ __ ] talk your [ __ ] you're what 670 like bro talk your [ __ ] like it it kind of bores me no I get yeah I mean that's that's some people's opinion is like he's too nice too humble too that but he's being himself um but he's also super young in the sport I think he and he's still pretty what is he 28 you're in a sport of War if I was playing like [ __ ] Cricket I would be like yeah like but that's that's the thing is for for for a character like him what it seems like is that's what he's in is the sport of war and that's it he's not in the sport of entertainment he's a nice ass sweetheart get there is some people that that understand both sides of things but I also have respect for and I see when someone's that's strictly in the sport of if I play chess with you I'm going to be like good game and I'm going to shake your hand I talk [ __ ] be F ass to a PO it I'm going to be like [ __ ] you you need to get better at whatever you're doing dial dialing it back a little bit um to the aost stream thing I think it's like what do you think about Conor tweeting still at like 3:00 a.m. like coked out he he he he sent shots at me and Ryan talking [ __ ] but it's it's crazy coming from Connor who literally got out of the usada pool to do steroid like legit steroids so it's kind of wild and I was the biggest Connor fan for a long time in the last couple weeks ever since he sent that wasn't even a couple weeks ago probably a week ago I've been trying to hate him I've been trying to be like [ __ ] you Connor but I can't I love Connor I it's like I am excited for his fight coming up I'm excited I want you know I'm all about it what's the fight is it Chandler Chandler in June it's going to be big they just been trying to do it for a long time so I didn't know if it still still I think officially I think it's I think I think the craziest part about it is what like eight weeks before a fight that he's still like coked and drunk out of his mind who you got though who that's a good it is crazy that he still like he tweeted that deleted like 20 minutes later he was definitely [ __ ] up on well that's what I was going to say we can't just Grace past that do you is that that's a that's a bold thing to say do you you know he's on coke is that a is that are you [ __ ] gills I don't know anything but I know for certain that he's brother like look at the time of the tweets and look at what he's saying like also and he's like known for this simar tweets yeah yeah I don't know just manic brother I think he is I do think Ryan is I think he when he said he was playing into it a little bit I I think he's kind of using that I think he's [ __ ] crazy what what what would happen if you and Ryan boxed that's I mean there's only one way to find out he has a lot better chances of beating me in a boxing match than he does in a real fight keep up I do I I [ __ ] I truly believe in myself that's how I got to the [ __ ] position I'm in right now I can box I can throw hands um I don't think it'd be easy by any means I do think it's possible I beat him I'm not saying my my odds are great but I do believe I could beat Ryan Bo if there was anybody you could box for your first boxing match debut who are you Bo give an easy fight give me Deon Haney you give [Laughter] me honest answer uh I mean if we're I I would say Floyd if I Pi if I could sit here and pick who I box first boxing fight I pick Floyd because it would be the biggest most crazy most legendary fight maybe not most legendary some people for me okay but outside of that on a skill based level oh I I could hang with some good [ __ ] pro boxers I'm undefeated in boxing you think you think if you and uh ilot boxed that' be ilot is very very [ __ ] skilled boxing that's an interesting question so who what what professional boxer would you equate your PA Mike Tyson I know of Devon Haney now because Ryan Garcia beat him uh dvon Davis he's really short I know him um maybe smacking [ __ ] up though he does he that little guy he can't he can't ride roll coasters though that is true so there's a there's a tradeoff like Cruz fight he was riding a roller coaster no like I'm talking about like at the fair oh no you know like there there's a trade-off in life you know where things get weird it's like it's like yo he's really good but you can't even just hit Dante fan brother can't even ride the top not a Dante fan that's not what I'm wait what did what did I say to say I'm not a you didn't say I mean I don't think he knows that it's a short joke I don't think he picked up on you want me tell him I was joking shut the [ __ ] up I get I say that was a joke I'm what are you trying to say I'm but are you trying to insinuate that I'm short no honestly you're probably what five you're 5'9 you're like 5' seven and a half stop doing stop doing it stop doing that cuz [ __ ] is going to see this and be like he's 5'6 actually if you watching this and you think I'm 5'6 and you want to try me in person please any [ __ ] who see me out I'm punching your [ __ ] out I'm like 5'9 on a good day when when I'm lying to women I'm 5'10 for sure who's gonna ID me I'm wearing forces I'm a [ __ ] liar all right so now for the truth jakee he's like what like he's 5 No but don't do that bro all right all right we won't we'll cut that out like yeah n don't cut it out n don't see me and see these but you know dvon is 5'5 legit that's cool bro I know but is that not short just be honest is that five five short for a grown man for a grown man is that short you can be a fan I'm not I'm a fan of javante and he's five that's a little little bro all right the joke went over his head anyways so the short joke [ __ ] is trying to play me like I'm short no no no we're we're not we're not you're [ __ ] tall all right let's pivot yeah so um SI yeah sh shout out to the shout out to the pivot but but yeah like Jasper's a little riled up things are on edge he's a little he's a little turned up it's been a long day a long two days we've been shooting uh because we have a new [ __ ] company did we say we talk about that yet I we said in the beginning raise your arms up [ __ ] goed [ __ ] goed shout out to w a fun few days it's been a fun few days days you're going to see the content rolling out um but you speaking of but Ruby Rose did a good job oh my God I wanted to bite that M listen anyway if you're near wmart if you're watching this right now I don't give a [ __ ] what you're doing you could be taking care of your kid you could be taking care of your elderly parents [ __ ] them go to Walmart June 1st Nationwide I don't care if you in Pensacola you in Massachusetts all in places that sound [ __ ] stupid there's a Walmart there and you go there it's a better for you product vitamin ifuse number [ __ ] one yeah no basically I I think dialing back like the business story of it because you're also like a very smart businessman intellectual doing everything you do in and outside of the Ring which a lot of people don't have which contributes to you being uh the biggest in my opinion the biggest UFC star um but yeah we we basically I guess this is the podcast where we tell people where W came from but um we started building this company like a year and a half ago and really saw how all these other companies like as we move into better for you products and less harmful products we saw how the leaders in the space didn't have the best formulas didn't have the best manufacturing had all of these harmful substances in it and we're also brands from when I was like 9 years old I don't want to list names but they're still like having all the Shelf space in stores and I was just like this is wild like this is boring this is lame the the the we need something new we need something that's better uh males have vitamin uh deficiencies like crazy especially with magnesium Jasper just can't get enough of it uh especially with magnesium um and biotin is in the body wash uh vitamin E one two of the best vitamins for your skin and hair um but as The Story Goes long story short we we come up with this brand that represents so many things um but I think winning in everyday life whether you're the valedictorian whether you are the high school jock whether you're philanthropist now you have a product that you can embody and wear every single day that's increasing your vitamin intake that is less harmful to you that's where the idea came from and just being the winning formula in category uh went to Walmart pitched them the whole idea they [ __ ] loved it helped us build the brand even and come up with the scent profiles and all the things that are the the most popular um and this has been something I've wanted to do for so long we had to bring in the best people to be a part of it the winners in their category and that's number one Numero Uno sha Ali here um and he instantly saw the vision and already in the past couple of days it's been like super fun filming all the content behind yeah I was pumped when you [ __ ] called me appreciate you thinking of me and uh excited to help grow this business [ __ ] it's needed it's needed we're going to take over the whole bathroom you know tooed if you [ __ ] with the dogs and cows and chickens dog in you I know what I got that dog in me and I use it so be dog free baby am I missing anything with that no I think that was great the one the one thing I would touch on and you did in a way but it's it is body wash it is body spray it is deodorant but it also is there's an ethos that stands behind this brand which is the ethos that you stand for and it's the ethos that you stand for and the ethos that you stand for and the one that I stand for if I say ethos again I'm GNA start stumbling over my words but it's it's it's like you said it it doesn't the winners in life aren't just you you're on a big stage in life you're you're you're crushing it in every aspect financially you're a star you're leading your sport that's awesome on every [ __ ] level it's it's an encouragement to to young men all around the world to [ __ ] get up off their ass and get sh it don't matter if you score high on a test you whatever the [ __ ] it is that you do well maybe not so it matters what the [ __ ] you do but it also doesn't matter what the [ __ ] you do anybody is a winner as long as you put in the work and you have the will to win and I love it I I would say that's wrong I would say that not anybody is a winner and I think that's something that the brand also stands for like you really got to win you got to as you have the will to win no I'm just saying I think that's an important point cuz we live in a world today where a lot of people think everybody can be a winner that's not true if you Los you might be a loser and if you're a loser the good news is there's a hidden l in the logo actually we'll trace it for you with our graphic design team there's a hidden l in the logo because and I I I wanted to make sure that was was a thing because the biggest loss of my life turned out to be the biggest W in my life and I always had the saying like two L's make a w and when I lost to Tommy Fury it was embarrassing all these things but I realized I wasn't focused I wasn't as locked in as I could be the team around me from a boxing standpoint wasn't good I was having personal issues with relationships and all of these things that I had to shed and grow from and I grew into this new and completely different person but I wouldn't have done that if I didn't lose on the biggest stage possible and I think that was part of the ethos ethos ethos ethos of the brand was to encourage people that in their lowest moments to turn those into into their biggest W's eventually when Jake just said that the biggest loss of his life ended up being the biggest W of his life you said same yeah yeah same what what was that story for supposedly lost for lost to Cheeto back in 2020 August it it was I mean it sucked at the time but I it didn't suck too bad because I was like okay I didn't lose because I you know and it was different I wasn't I mean I was focused everything went good training camp everything was good but I was like that sucks I'm goingon to get that back someday when the time is right and then my last fight two two months ago in Miami headline I'm the champ defending my belt against that same guy how rewarding was that three and a half years later August three and a half years later boom beat his ass as a fan of yours it made it so sweet because of all the doubters that constantly like put you down and didn't believe in you and said he was going to destroy you and then you he literally like you embarrass him that was a performance of a life you embarrassed the [ __ ] out of him and I think that's literally a prime example of turning l l into into a w and I really that's what that's where the hidden l in the brand in the logo is um and representing that every single day when you see these products in your bathroom and when we say we have a saying it's not just a product it's a lifestyle absolutely trademarked Incorporated All Rights Reserved 2024 brother uh but but yeah man it's it's an honor to have you a part of this and uh we we really made what we think are the best products on the market from the body wash being exfoliating vitamin infused to the body spray what we found out is a lot of these fragrances like you get like these high-end designer brands that have like $500 colognes turns out it only cost them a dollar to make that and they're literally making like $499 on top of that so we had a fine fragrance house is what these places are called and we got the super expensive scents and gave it to people to what they're worth like we're not trying to these products are super super affordable and I think it's so funny because that's the world we live in where like you just label something and get like a European girl to go this is one of the lower priced men's care products on the market yeah if I'm not mistaken and it's it's the $500 fragrance in the affordable bottle because we want everyone we've been using a body wash in the past two days since we got the samples after the shoot and I personally want to say I got the in there you could bleep it out whatever you want to do W's winning n b genuinely that's that's the saying is the it's winning formula cuz it really is like it really is if if we're going to call our company [ __ ] W it has to be the best we the winners winning product indeed indeed winning customers all that type of [ __ ] indeed better Derek today he's just got a punch I'm not Li I talked to him before he left he wants to punch you up bro he's got a punchable face I like him though it's weird it's like God I like that guy but I want [ __ ] KO pick him up and like it's okay boom one more to the liing me earlier and I'm just letting you know don't shoot the messenger on God he said he wants to get in the ring with you I can call him really he oh yeah he he you want to call him yeah where is he at is wait uh no call no call he's coming up oh um he's talking smack he said he actually wants a spar I swear to God he said he wants to get percentage should I go you guys I literally out let that's crazy timeing saying talk [ __ ] to my face if you're going to talk [ __ ] that's crazy timing what were you saying they were telling me you want to get in the ring and Spar bit or they didn't say Spar they said fight yeah I'm down to do either but uh yeah no I'm just sick of the [ __ ] [ __ ] you've been saying on your podcast uh you called me you made fun of my weight and you called me gay I did not no I well okay okay you said that he wouldn't ever say that what you got to say what your chest that's what I just [ __ ] said bro I he was like oh if I if stand on it you talking to him you talking to him you ain't talking to me my assistant Sono would would piece you he's never boxed a day he never I'm here to fight your video I'm here to fight you what did I what was the first thing I said to you when when I saw you what was the first thing I said to you that we could fight no I said you look thick wait but when we were talking earlier weren't you saying he's a [ __ ] and you wanted to get a ring with him and all type [ __ ] what I'm saying right now say it then I just said the [ __ ] ring so we can after this we have a ring 2 feet away and he's a [ __ ] and whatever else you was saying to me yeah he's [ __ ] what about my hair say something about my hair I I already said that at the W shoot that you look like you haven't showered in [ __ ] a week okay all right d hey buddy hey hey what's your long-term play not no but see you guys you guys are making me seem crazy you're out of your mind he Derek Dereck go warm up hit the hit the heavy back H the warm up is almost listen legendary as send location dble PIV go warm up hey hey double pivot sit sit I'm not [ __ ] no I I'll sit and talk but I'm not [ __ ] no sit on the floor walk you want to take my seat hey how much how much of what's going on ch ch how much of what's going on is is a character versus like actual delusion how much is a character yeah decent uh I would say there are times where I know what I have to do for my boxing career to like like we all why is he laughing cuz you said career I beat your [ __ ] boy your [ __ ] [ __ ] bro you know what I I recall you did beat I recall calling steiny saying what the [ __ ] was that buddy I love steiny but I do remember watching that and thinking I wasn't proud of that I was not proud of that from steiny and I wish I wish he would come to the gym I wish he'd get in there I wish he'd train a little bit and I wish he would have a rematch but that's on him I've been trying to get the rematch but he's been ding me do you think Derek won he said I won I thought I thought he won I'd have to rewatch but I do think I come on baby the comments have [ __ ] dragged me for months after that [ __ ] 99% of the comments say I lost so please say it one more time Sean no I said it what I said it's like therapy or something no but to answer your question uh we all know uh uh as Fighters there's a side of promotion stop [ __ ] first of all Gus shut the [ __ ] up our our audio guys uh like can't stop laughing is that the facial his facial hair or is what he's saying bro that's bold of you to talk facial hair bro that's bold of you to I'm not Li you look dirty you look like Jeffrey done training right Jesus I train every day but anyway we know like there's two sides of of promotion as well as the actual athletic competition that is Combat Sports so there are times where I might play up a little bit like hey promoting but let him go let him go all right if you if all if you think I'm all promoting that I'll see you in the [ __ ] ring and I'll knock both you either of you out well um well Jake's a [ __ ] fat [ __ ] right now he weighs like 240 so I got I goty I gotta pick my words wisely like he's Jake's 240 I I know I know but like I'm not going to sit here and pick a fight against somebody that's 240 when I'm se's my weight class when I stopped you in one round like just like but when I was getting started out of come this is where I'm at since then I told him he could have somebody tag team I'm down I'm down to fight anybody in this [ __ ] room not one person in this room I'm the best part about this is like uh right after this we I think you're you're down to do like one round or three minutes right I mean I'd prefer 12 but we okay yeah 12 I mean that my biggest advantage in the ring ring is my cardio I do 12 12 okay so no I have a genuine question so five round I'm not I'm not one have I ever said I'm a UFC fighter no I'm just say we can box I'm just saying that's I'm used to five you want to do three we could do that aren't you trying to be a boxer with your [ __ ] Ryan Garcia call he would knock knock your [ __ ] ass out so quickly it wouldn't be close I'm one and0 pro boxing what are you actually I saw that video I saw video I'm also want to know thank you officially hey they count that's real commiss but uh I didn't mean I didn't mean to take I didn't mean to take over the pot I just wanted to a couple you definitely didn't yeah okay I try I'm trying to help you no we love you go warm up yeah yeah go warm up the bags don't warm up too much though don't get tired how much do you wa right now without Timberlands and jean shorts on high 120 low 13 no without lying though okay that [ __ ] is you think you got you got him one round I think I could beat him I think I can beat him I I think I could handicap myself to three just put on one glove I could do that what do you think actually happens now when you go downstairs and he gets in that ring like what's his plan that's what I don't get about him but that's why it's that's do me a favor that's why he's Cloud it up because love [ __ ] up [ __ ] he's going he's going to try to Yap he's going to try to talk please just go 100% yeah no actually actually please go 100% if he signs a consent form we'll have him no we've already got like multiple consent forms for better media with like death wavers [ __ ] no no no but he needs it he needs that I'll go like 40 no go like 75 Sean I'm I'm going to be honest bro don't even go 20% he's the nice [ __ ] bro don't do that bro you want him to go 100% no no to be honest but just like work with him and then just like maybe just just like a really good punching and then he'll give up 75% uh I'm nervous man I'm shaking for Derek yeah yeah that's good I understand that there a couple flinches if you Flinch hard enough the the wind coming off you will put him down let him walk you down and bait him boom sleeping what's your next upcoming fight a maraba jaaba and when is that uh not nothing yet I'm hoping for September maybe October maybe November maybe December I'm F ready to go baby what if it was next month I wouldn't be ready to go I like I like 10 to 12 weeks 10 to 12 he likes eight I mean I I normally do like 10 yeah just like but I've been super the first few weeks are [ __ ] pre-amps this Camp I'm channeling my Ryan Garcia would you ever do a Ryan Garcia regiment during Camp drink and smoke every night you do a little I I probably yeah I'm not actually doing that for the people out there he's locked in clocked in locked in locked in ready to go yeah May 20th we start but by the time the people see this it'll be uh June or something like that that is crazy you're fighting Mike that you fought Ben asran wrestler good good [ __ ] UFC was really good UF bit Tyron Woodley twice Anderson Silva knockout of the year with Nate Robinson can't forget about deji deji the the the goat do we say Gibb or is that like that's just crazy resume like literally [ __ ] C by way thank you Gib cuz we had a really good party after he knocked you the [ __ ] out who W we're skipping two professional boxers this always no no the recent ones this always happens I'm trying to just think cuz two cuz this is what everybody asked for this is what everybody asked for who who are the two professional boxers you fighted you got to name them Andre August and Ryan Borland go okay people don't people are like fight a pro boxer and then I do and then they're like that was boring as a man of combat he what were 10 and one nine and one nine and one what is your take on his [ __ ] all of his fights and who he's fighting in the competition dude I've been excited as [ __ ] since I started I remember you I remember the first time I watched was the Nate Robinson I watched that one at home and then uh I don't remember what it was after that but I remember watching Ben Asam in Atlanta I think that was the first time we actually met was right after the fight I think we hugged I was like y I picked you up you carried me back to the locker room that it was love at first sight that was crazy actually yeah actually I [ __ ] with him we became best friends like a couple days later you going to leave me hanging no no I would it's my eyebrow but uh yeah no I think he's obviously super skilled I think it's and I I it's inspired me even in the position I'm at UFC World Champ sexy you know what I mean like tall dark handsome TR inspired me just business the business uh side of things that you've done I've always thought putting on massive fight that's why I'm such a huge Conor fan cuz the pay-per-views he's done is so [ __ ] he's been fighting for four years and [ __ ] that he's been doing the massive fights the fights I get excited for there's a few UFC fights the high the big big fights that I get excited for but every time you fought even when uh Logan fought Floyd I was [ __ ] like excited like all fight week so i' I've been inspired from what you've done from a business side from the boxing side they even just start so not late but for a boxer but these boxers start when they're [ __ ] three four years old like Ryan and tank like they're young buck the Tik Tac I sent you of Devon Haney's debut fight yeah it's wild he was fighting a five foot Mexican in a in a bar was it Dante bro if I show you this [ __ ] oh no I did see that I did see that I did see that when you started even seeing that first video fighting Anderson Silva six fights in bro like do you know how insane that is he's one of the greatest correct me if I'm wrong UFC Strikers in history yeah 100% so does that make me one of the greatest UFC Strikers and one of the greatest wrestlers cuz wood but Ben ask was but Nate Diaz is ducking me in MMA oh am crazy I am weak that's a sick fight MMA I I wish it was that would happened right after the boxing same he's actually ducking it which is why it's crazy because he's not he's not in UFC no but we we upped it to 15 million damn that's crazy though that would be a I like Nate Diaz but that would be such a fun buildup he actually doesn't want to do it all Sean how do you genuinely Jake's not here it's me and you in a room actually how do you see that fight going for Jake what MMA him you're not here J for Nate in MMA keep it a bean God it's it's so hard to you're a big [ __ ] right now on what weight would it be5 185 I don't hate I don't I it's not a it's a winable fight for you I really do think that but Nate is so [ __ ] you would have to do what I did against aljo and morab do not let that [ __ ] grab you not that you can't wrestle cuz I know you can wrestle but once he starts grabbing you and doing Jiu-Jitsu if he gets on top his little he likes his little trips it would be hard for you to win I feel like if he if he started grappling just pure Jiu-Jitsu if it let's be real if it goes to the floor is he [ __ ] if he's on his back Nate's not like a super strong guy so if you learn how to like I mean I'm sure you know how to get up to a single legegg stuff like that but then you start getting your neck grabbed I don't know how much Jiu-Jitsu you know I mean Nate's a [ __ ] high Lev black belt um if you could keep it standing 100% there's winnable ways there if he if he went to the ground feel like he might be able to grab your neck no that that's exactly how I feel about it if I don't get guillotined yeah then I win the fight because even if he was on top take your back but even if he was on top of me I would just throw him off of me cuz he's also the weakest puncher I've ever fought like when he was hitting me I was I almost like started laughing I'm I'm not even saying this to talk [ __ ] out of everyone I've sparred in my whole entire life and everyone I fought his punches are even me we I don't think you ever landed a punch on me is that true well that's not true so I don't anyone no I'm literally not even talking [ __ ] which is why I think it's funny that he dropped Connor and [ __ ] cuz it's just like how Conor with like to the ground yeah like with a straight left hand yeah which is crazy like I I'm not just talking [ __ ] when I say that and I've told you I've literally told you this you told me this after the fight yeah I was like he is the weakest puncher I've ever fought in my life who's who's the weakest puncher you've ever you've ever come to face um there I mean there's been so many fights where I later didn't even get hit um uh does that like make you jaded at all when you get into a fight and you don't really get love that [ __ ] I prefer not to get hit at all but like if I was you and I wasn't get hit at all I'd probably work less no no no no I I know I don't get hit because I work that hard so if I didn't work hard I know I'd probably get hit I'm just a lazy [ __ ] so so here you are on top of the world we're launching [ __ ] W going to be a billion dollar business [ __ ] you I always forget uh UFC champ accomplishing all your goals what do you want next uh what are what is the threeyear fiveyear for Sean I I truly do want to get a boxing fight I'm not I'm not super set on that to where like I'm like going to be [ __ ] if it doesn't happen I do think it'll be interesting especially if I go out there knock morab out Ryan does his thing I think there's a [ __ ] sweet fight there if it doesn't happen not that worried about it want to go out there beat morab I'd like to you know if Max Max and Elia fight I would like to fight go move up to 45 fight the winner of that um you know maybe have three to five maybe have a few more kids definitely want another little baby I love kids my fite pump him out shout out to Danny who's your top pick in a boxing fight though if you if you could choose your Ryan now was like the I mean what he after dvon Beat Ryan I was like javante then Ryan goes out there does his thing really though I think Dante do you is that is that not a big [ __ ] leap Ryan like you said before he's been doing this his whole life one thing that's been proven is that the crossover it's it's not a good return Fury he did his thing okay the excep is the exception we've seen it with okay but then Anthony Joshua put his ass t was crazy super night night he was I'm I'm here for big fights like I wanted to get into the UFC and I wanted to make big fights watching Conor versus Floyd I'm like that [ __ ] happened really happened hey you versus Derek that could be as big as Connor in Floyd but no but I I think the craziest [ __ ] about Conor versus Floyd is that overall it was a W for everyone involved so there's certain fights where it just like doesn't matter what happens that's the world we live in yeah I mean UFC told me they said if the if the fight's big enough and it'll make the UFC money they'll do it what means more to you your your your record being pre or the amount of money you're making all right let me ask you something it's about to get real J's drunk Jasper's drunk as [ __ ] y record or money [ __ ] it depends the Gap like like the gap of money if it's like an extra 10 15 20 million but I lose a couple important fights probably not you just take like 150 million I'll be like like [ __ ] my record baby yeah it depends on the gap of money Jake Paul is not here right now just like a Mayweather Conor McGregor you taking that fight ver Jake yeah no he's my buddy I could I mean I don't I don't even no I no funny no there's you know what's funny is always in my Snapchat story once once a day pretty much someone says we knock out Jake Paul like there's every sing all the time for so long people just want to see me get [ __ ] is good though that's like the thing yeah but I'm sensitive it is funny though people [ __ ] love to hate confidence the craziest thing though actually about both of you like I met you very recently like I didn't realize you're as like normal as you are I don't know why I thought you violent like you guys are both like very goofy mellow and stupid and c and and awesome it's like the greatest thing ever like I couldn't believe when I met you you're like one of us like yeah I wouldn't think you're a [ __ ] yeah one of the coolest people in the world for sure yeah but not a lot of people uh can like I don't know we have like a weird it's hard toes Meat Heads I'm like this the this my dog I think it's a little bit of dark humor too it's like some [ __ ] up [ __ ] that we say off camera [ __ ] sometimes but I think it's like there's a certain yeah like that's how my whole group is back home it's like we all just we're all just kind of [ __ ] dumb I'm smart but like they're dumb well someone commented like yo Jake Paul's the dumbest genius in the world and I was just like I say that [ __ ] all the time you wed up the other day and I was like this is the most genius dumbass in the world no jokes Hey Brother chill buddy trying to get me cancelled no what how old are you 23 are you really yeah no you're not he's not is he what do you think think what did you think Oh no you're 267 27 what did you think he was I thought he was older I thought he was like 27 26 yeah a niggaer mature was that ladies you got a boo you got a girl you just be slanging she timeout right now I don't really talk about she don't time out it's a little tricky she not taking care of herself what do you guys think about Tom Brady R you watch it yeah they kept comp panning to you every 5 Seconds bro I swear there's a huge camer sitting there the whole time but it's cool to see Netflix going hard like that cuz they went hard they swing that meat around huha yeah let's pivot yeah just sorry about him I'm drunk man not yeah but but it was it was great it wasar they should have got rid of most of the football players going up there yeah there's a couple ones Ben afflac is that who that was on there that was wild that was so weird that was so weird it was cool to see how [ __ ] less sensitive people are becoming I feel like feel like it's recently like there's a big push back I think people got sick of it we went super super super PC for a long time people were like wait a second we like being able to say what we want to say I saw kill Tony say oh type of crazy [ __ ] on there that watch every [ __ ] Monday you were on kill Tony yeah how old are you actually buddy I'm a comedian Budd full time no yeah I was on that I was nervous as hell though I was like just being it's a live I do podcast once a week like me and Tim do our podcast every [ __ ] week but to be there in front of an audience live it's weird it's a different kind of well so you say Tim but let's let's talk about actually the fact that you get trained by by one of the greatest boxers of all time it's really that's something what's happened like that's crazy working with Canelo as your as your coach that's what I'm saying people don't going to be Ryan but like yeah that is true I never even thought about that for did you even know that this guy proba even know that that orange [ __ ] is nice wait will I get cancelled by the ginger community no you're black oh no my dad my dad's Ginger and I'm I'm like this [ __ ] is ginger bro he be shaving he be shaving his beard and I zoom in zoom in it's it's slightly orange so I'm a quarter ginger on South Park they made fun of Gingers and that [ __ ] made the news I [ __ ] with the ginger people but like y'all [ __ ] you like redhead girls oh yeah was Super Soaker but anyway yeah like y'all [ __ ] is orange and that's okay but back to you one of y'all that's not drunk I got a question cuz this guy clipped out a lot did Tim actually like you guys about him like saying to fight that was yeah that was real Tim always be talking [ __ ] to the like he's been doing that for so long so what happened he just talk I mean he just he Alo the knee's coming Alo you got to shoot Alo watch out for this like he's been saying that since I've been in the UFC like my debut vers terion where he was talking [ __ ] to terion too and uh he just does it every fight but this happened to just be crazy timing to like Tim you got Tim like alre you got to go and like literally he he like that's when he threw that left hand or whatever stepped into Southpaw and uh or stepped into Orthodox and got dropped it was it was funny the timing because he's like Al you got to go I don't I truly don't think that's why that's not why Alo went I bet you could I bet Alo didn't even hear that but Tim's always chirping and stuff but people on the internet are [ __ ] mad about that a lot of them actually like it I'll say majority of people are thinking that's the funniest [ __ ] ever there's a couple [ __ ] that are like you should be banned think it's a fight would you run the alra fight back or one and done never I like that why would I yeah am I supposed to top that you know what I'm saying I got love for Alo we had him on the show and he he seems like a good dude I actually don't mind Alo I does that ever happen where like you'll have a personal relationship with someone personal runin with them and it's all great but then now all of a sudden you have to fight each other I've never had I've not of running with someone that's been like uh more than like I've ran into aljo morab at the UFC I'm like hey what's up talk to him a little bit you know nothing no ill will um but I haven't had like a run with someone I actually lik them mhm and then at the fight them so you're not friends with any any other UFC fighters oh I have a there's there's a couple guys in my in my weight class that I train with at the lab that are like climbing the r uh ladders what happened with uh the 125 pounder I I don't even know his name and I'm not I'm just not like yeah what's his name I Alexander pania bro this story is actually kind of funny so 2016 I think it was it was like 3 and0 4 and0 and I was still fighting at like I fought at 125 not too long before that I fought at like 130 which is in a weight class was like so I wasn't like a 155 like I am now I was probably like 14 back then and uh Henry cejudo comes in I'm three or four and0 at the point at this point it comes in with this kid Alexander PTO just won The Ultimate Fighter I think he's got his UFC debut or it's his second UFC fight he's a couple weeks out from his fight I'm [ __ ] the night before me and Tim ripping bongs like hanging out being goofballs and [ __ ] so the next morning so we brought him in for sparring hry sudo brings in Alexander you're 4-0 he's King [ __ ] he he's just won The Ultimate Fighter and so they write the names on on the board who who you're sparring I'm like oh [ __ ] I got Alexander Pantoja versus me for one round one round he has three rounds so you write one one name then usually you you spar with one guy then they go out you spar with a fresh guy they go out spar with the fresh guy that's usually how it works so my name was just up there for one round that's it we Spar one round I didn't know anything about him cuz I I didn't really watch it like that 25 I don't really watch 25ers like that but somebody's like oh [ __ ] that's he a black belt he just won The Ultimate Fighter I was like oh [ __ ] I got to [ __ ] Focus up here first round boom Dro him with a liver kick and I wasn't going to post I record all my rounds I have so many sparring rounds like I wasn't going to post it was and for some reason I don't know why he would talk [ __ ] and bring it up cuz I literally I don't know you know know I don't know if you know how it works but you finish a guy the fight's over right no no did he um so I finished him the first round he hit him boom with the liver I posted the video yesterday and I've had it for a long time I didn't want to post it CU you don't post sparring like that but he just kept bringing it up so boom finished him first round um then uh after the first round round I go to walk out and Henry's over there crying box of Kleenex just like [ __ ] wiping his tears crying we want you for a second round so mad that this little like I was nobody just finished his dude he's in the UFC he's supposed to be the man finish him in the first round so Henry's crying saying he wants another round um so I piece him up again in the second round and I'm I'm dying at this point my lungs are burning I'm not in shape for fight I I'm nowhere near in Camp for a fight and I my lungs are hurting and uh Henry again crying blowing his nose and like I want you for a third and Benson comes in Benson Henderson absolute Legend comes in and was yelling cuz that's his it was the his gym the MMA lab we don't let people come in our gym and make us tired and blah blah blah and I'm [ __ ] just just huffing and puffing I just got done work in this dude for 10 minutes finished him in the first round did I say that liver kick um we'll put the footage I have the foot yeah it's right there insert the footage so third round come out boom piece him up again and he's so I don't know why he keeps bringing up this bringing this up in the media I think it's because people ask him but I don't know why he doesn't just say yeah yeah no no I don't want to talk about it he keeps saying like he's like oh I got in I found his range and [ __ ] I'm like bro you you stopped him in one round stopped him in round one and let him live and continue to fight for round two these delusional uh like wild people are weirdos but the reason I posted cuz he kept bringing it up exactly wait so is he the champ now at 125 yeah okay but why does he still want to talk [ __ ] to you if you got [ __ ] up that's what I'm saying I don't know either either you drop to 125 and get that no I can't drop to 125 that's too much now you're a thick [ __ ] I am a thick but yeah I SP I think it's important for up and cominging Spar uh fighters to record their rounds and watch their rounds not for that this reason you know but just to I've improve so much watching my sparring y I have thousands of rounds maybe not thousands hundreds of rounds from 10 years ago on my on my computer of uh it's like NFL team is watching footage the time [ __ ] 100% got to watch that [ __ ] that's I I have every single round recorded and and again I I don't post sparring either exactly you know put in a highlight video make a vlog boom we're sparring people but it's never like [ __ ] up your guy yeah exactly but Mike Perry honestly like what he's been doing is pretty Fu he went to Bare knuckle that [ __ ] just meant for him bare knuckle fighting it's crazy different going crazy he's doing good he's [ __ ] undefeated over there he's beating some really good guys stay over here [ __ ] [ __ ] only place that you should be getting tickets from is game time.co it's it's the only place I go it is the only place you can possibly go they have 110% price match guarantee that's what we use to get our tickets for the NBA Finals you can get $20 off your first order go to gametime.co JJ a $20 off your first order they're doing a deal specifically for y'all and you could see where your tickets are before you buy them seeing the seats they have all of the these great policies last 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platform there is Mike Paul versus Jake Tyson here's my official prediction tell us and even if even if it's against me like it's not it's not I do think you're going to beat Mike Tyson uh it's crazy that I even saying that out loud right now cuz you're fighting Mike Tyson it's [ __ ] crazy even just when we were walking down the the street today people all genders all ages knew you were fighting Mike Tyson it's such a massive fights live on Netflix which is [ __ ] crazy it's in a stadium which is [ __ ] crazy it is crazy I believe in you I see what you I see what you're doing I see you know that you believe in yourself Mike Tyson is uh hasn't fought in however long it's been so for him to just come up and get a fight be I I'm sure is going to be in as good a shape as he possibly could be in but it's just you know it's it's it's it's not his time right now I love Mike Tyson I never actually met him but I love Mike Tyson I do think Jake's gonna get the job done and I do think eight rounds eight two-minute rounds eight two-minute rounds I believe I believe you could put them away in the later rounds you know five six seven eight I do think you could put it put him down which is crazy to even [ __ ] think you rap yeah that's fire I'm just lazy and inconsistent that's not a w no that sh it is not you start using Brandon yell at him every day but cuz you can actually spit that's fire no but but people know him now from like podcasting they don't know he's a rapper and hurts his soul J sick name Lil jizz what J JZ that's good that's good you should switch your [ __ ] I switch my [ __ ] from come Master to kill Jas bro honestly though that's I think singing rapping spitting is one of the things that if I could switch talents be doing something like that that's good or twerking I ain't going to lie you shook that [ __ ] earlier I got a I got a thing on me you that [ __ ] wiggle a little bit let's let's pivot though cuz yep hit a pivot uh yeah do we have a speaker should we play Jasper's new song or something you got a new one I thought you were lazy some new [ __ ] go ahead play on your phone just put it in the speaker put it in the mic too this the [ __ ] I'm dropping when I'm Indie that sound decent I'm not rapping either I'm yapping that's not going to get you drunk yo I made this beat that's crazy I like the way you look I won't lie you got something I need you my with a fly girl like you doing with no guy a little sh don't really go outside I'm not crazy right place and right time you all smiles and pretty light brown [Music] [Music] like that better if I forget you but I just can't time saying do better and I'm sure you can find that guy that's worth all right cut it cut it cut it that's that's enough that's enough that's enough that's enough for real can't give the whole thing it's not out yet yeah hey good [ __ ] that's fire I'll be rapping though but that's some pop [ __ ] just cuz I can do it so why are you consistent cuz I'm lazy and jaded and and spoiled yeah it's unfortunate maam shout out to the homies for a lot of talented people out there that just are yeah don't smoke crack yo also there there is a parallel there don't do don't do that there's a parallel with the same thing he's talking about I think Fighters probably where it's like you could have all the talent in the world he's got that's why I get so [ __ ] mad at him it's cuz he has all the talent in the world really I get more pissed off than he gets and he could be a superstar but he just is lazy he doesn't put the work in he's not he's not strategic and it is hard when you got when you live in a crib in Puerto Rico right you got chefs and [ __ ] and you fly private with me yeah that's it that's it bro that's it you got to you got get paychecks and [ __ ] y'all got to evict me that's not a bad idea honestly I think we talked about it let's make I was I'm H we had a conversation but I just can't I can't because I love you so much I need you but then I'll probably be more like need you y yeah I guarante and then we you would still have to like fly in once a week to to do the pods and it would be resentment and then I I'll go out like and I'll try to start shooting at y'all oh my God I guarantee I would be in the position I'm in if I if I had money and like had already made it like financially had [ __ ] I wouldn't have made it that's why people think I'm crazy but CC the other side of it is like boom right so I'm from com California same hey shout out my [ __ ] yeah man I was homeless for the first half of my life mom's a drug addict dad's a gang member I've never had anything in my life right and my whole life has been music I dropped out in ninth grade I was like I'm going to make music my dad kicks me out he's like you can't live under this roof like be more like your brothers my brothers are [ __ ] star students one got a full ride scholarship loser all all type of [ __ ] nerd ass [ __ ] all those [ __ ] are fat and unemploy now one dropped out of school a full rise scholarship and is just sitting at home right so boom from having nothing to like me saying I'm going to risk everything that I have in my life to become a music artist and it works I get to a certain place and I'm like damn I did exactly I hit a ceiling right so it's like now I had to recalibrate he got a big record deal and then and then like use I crashed out and became a m addict for four four days a week for 30 like 90 days oh it's not bad but then I moved cuz my homeboy was like you need to move and I was like nah [ __ ] that I made a million I ain't going to move I'm going to maintain this lifestyle I'm a junkie but I'm rich yep I crashed out and was like yeah I need to move lost 60 lbs went to Puerto Rico locked in recalibrated and now I'm ready to be but that's that's here's the problem we run into now is that you've recalibrated and now it's still it's been 6 months the album's supposed to be 6 months ago and we're still waiting for the album that's the problem and that's what you got to work on never too late though let's start it let's get because you're vitamin deficient right yeah yeah cuz like a lot of people can't think straight when they're vitamin deficient and all that a week ago kind of elaborated on that so yeah this isn't therapy um I got shout out Suzie right right huh Susie but she's hot is she not you think my therapist you guys got the same one I could pee and vape on this podcast I got to go pee go pee I could pee yeah I mean I think we I think we end the episode because uh let's wrap it up you can get W available at Walmart anyway if you walk into Walmart whether you with your mom your daddy you by yourself you go in that [ __ ] men body care aisle you buy that and comment down below what you thought of the episode for um us being brain fried over and uh jper but Buzz also comment cuz this coming out when the product releases comment your favorite scent and sent $10,000 right no I'm send you 1,000 I ain't got 10,000 for you but I'll send you 1,000 I'll send someone 10,000 he'll send you 10,000 I'll send you a th000 and I'm going through the comments for sure anyway good luck Charlie and if you got a test soon good luck on that [ __ ] that's what we [Music] do what are those 8 O gloves I want you to know they were talking up there he ain't going easy so be ready all right legit be ready buddy I'm using these bags don't show Too Much don't show we're boxing we're boxing I don't I do that on accident sometimes just know that that might come up just keep your hands up I'm just saying I might throw that up I haven't knocked someone out in a while just cuz my last fight didn't go off it went off five rounds I've been like craving just putting someone's lights out lately it's weird versus your boy better Derek I I hope Sean isn't nice and just [ __ ] him up that's your that's your trainee [ __ ] D all righty folks welcome to your main event of the evening starting out first in the loser corner you have better day with a record of no wins no losses I beat ste's [ __ ] out no anything he is 5'7 120 lbs lost in the mile to better JoJo but he's still delusional in his fighting career and to my left in the winning Corner sponsored by W sugar sha Ali The Undefeated UFC champion of the world it's time to fight bring it to the center we already spoke about the rules in the locker room beforehand give me your glove give me your hand touch gloves I want a clean fair fight no no hits below the waist back to your Corners time you ready judge you ready and fight [Music] [Applause] I'm out of balance or something oh do Dodge that [ __ ] hold on hold on hold on hold [ __ ] come on come on just oh my God one back of the head no no no back of the head four ref didn't see it five six me in the eyes Walk This Way Walk This Way for me he's running Walk This Way for me my car run all right and we're in in that right that's called all right time time time one two that was a that was a slip four up six bro Rizo what the [ __ ] are you doing all right get up SLP all right come on time in come on got come on got you [ __ ] black I'm going to I need to work I need to see some work black UT D somebody said 10 seconds like 8 seconds ago all right great back to your corner back to your corner back to your corner stay in there you're doing good right now this feel good I feel good do you see that one I landed clean on his face I think we all terrible shut the [ __ ] up for once in your [ __ ] life shut the [ __ ] up Sean's doing half punches on him shut up I'll act like uh no don't act like bro I'm just I'm putting in work all right how this how you when you [ __ ] beat the old wash UFC fighters everybody comments you're fighting old was UFC fighters what do you think 10s I think they're right in in round two round two round two oh got him [ __ ] oh [Music] [ __ ] hey put that hey that that's a that's going to be a 10 count can't get me by the that's going to be a 10 count that's 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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXPZ1KzdpsY	4,103	mXPZ1KzdpsY	2024-06-20 00:00:00	well well well ladies and gentlemen do we have a special episode for you today none other than sugar Shan om Ali the current UFC bantamweight champion a legend in his own right this episode was off the cusp we were a little turned up Jasper was really really drunk so we weren't really prepared for this at all the conversations definitely got wild and obviously as you guys have seen over maybe the past week or so we launched a new company called w am men's carine in Walmart this company is so near and dear to my heart and I partnered with Shawn to bring this Vision to life amongst other celebrities artists and athletes that we are announcing over the next couple of weeks here get your w at Walmart it is very very very very very good stuff and yes you heard the news I am fighting Mike Perry on July 20th it is going down I'm still fighting Mike Tyson November 15th that is happening but I'm staying active knocking out Mike Perry on July 20th and I'm excited for y'all to listen to this episode and he the vision of w how it all came together and how Shawn got involved and then everything to do with Shawn's career this podcast has been a long time coming but prepare yourself for some idiocracy per usual uh this is [ __ ] with Jake Paul we have a secret handshake check it out AC let me get that stop playing mean yeah we created that because we actually have so many things to get into here this has been a long time coming Jasper did bring up something and the reason W was created was because the other products in the category had harmful dyes parabens sulfates hormone disruptors and so we wanted to create the better for you vitamin infused product and and Sean's a co-owner just signed today yesterday for the show but we we'll get into all of that we we've been you know bringing sea on for like we've been talking for like a month and a half yes sir yes sir um it is currently May we've been doing a lot of shoots this podcast will probably come out at post W launch you can get I'm so drunk I'm sorry y'all you can get it in uh Walmart every Walmart you in Paca Walmart get it in you in Pensacola it's in Walmart in Kentucky Walmart Walmart so basically uh we we brought in the greatest people in the world to help build W and Sean is one of those people but dialing everything back we will get into the company the body washes how this all came about but uh we've been wanting to do this podcast and thanks for joining us BR hey guys hey thanks for joining us right did you uh yeah I did you sh for an hour bro did you did you do do we know do we set the stage of the day and the fact that Jasper's slash right now okay cool y drunk is a [ __ ] y like double drunk yep yep yep you drunk yeah all that so um but just winding everything back uh I think we've been friends for a long time in fact you were the first guest on this show oh [ __ ] crazy Zoom crazy that's right that's right that's right the first ever episode you zoomed in and that's crazy we're thankful we're thankful for our friendship and it's pretty cool that now we're here again today uh getting less views than before and that's fire that's it congratulations less views we're not we're not it was it was a joke it was a joke if you watching this please like and comment cuz we falling off right now but man by the time this comes out you're going to be getting ready for me RAB how do you say his name I don't remember morab is iTab or or I don't know me that's got to be it me but you got to say it with the emphasis look meab mirab meab meab there you go there you go so yeah I should be getting ready hopefully I ain't got nothing scheduled hopefully uh you know Uncle Dana will call me say hey buddy you want to fight in in here and there and there and then I'm d b boom and that that's how that works what's up with everybody on your body though everybody talking [ __ ] even people youat I wanted to bring up yeah and he's like saying like he's trying to post about you even yesterday it is weird but when you concuss someone you know what I just say they don't think as well as they used to so I think he's still concussed and he's a little confused because he's talking [ __ ] still he not in his right mind because I can just throw up another post go because it's a throwback Thursday it's a throwback Friday do you think do you think people don't respect you enough cuz I I see that as your friend an unbiased like they just see social media and podcasts and the the hair and stuff like that and then they just sh week but I [ __ ] with you I appr that um I don't think it is well you can't you know I think it's fine I think you're jealous I ain't going to lie I got some inches under here let's smell that hair you can smell my [ __ ] must who I do think I feel a little bit disrespected as the champ but I think that last fight against Che kind of you know shut a little bit of people up canny go five rounds Cheeto beat me before the Alo fight um shut a lot of people up canny grapple didn't have to Grapple cuz he couldn't take me down yeah Alo couldn't take you down I think that was the biggest thing where they were like yo that's his weakness like yeah wrestle him down and then he just proved everyone wrong that's what's so interesting about this morab fight is he's supposedly well he is he's [ __ ] good at wrestling he's really really good at wrestling he's boring as [ __ ] and no one will there won't be one comment saying yeah right he's actually kind of fun not one person I'm com won I'm com you can I ask you something would you put yourself in your own top five Strikers in the UFC oh I'm yeah yo easily who's your Mount Rushmore strikker well I I mean I would unbiasedly I would put him as number one because adna is in like top three but he also like got beat by put that [ __ ] down boy he did uh bro I'm up there I'm up there Max is really good Max super his striking that's a good top five there that's four me Max Elia adaga uh I'm sure I'm missing some your with a one would it be that's that's a minus one Mount rmore is four yeah but I only got four but if you throw the five in it's a plus one isn't there only four yeah but but you ready to throw the five up I'm four all right that's my more but yeah once again uh this is a [ __ ] ass podcast so we apologize hey but something something you just touched on you talked about Fighters being fun and interesting how much and you're you're a superstar how much of you being a superstar how much of any fighter being a superstar comes down to them being fun and interesting as you are and how much of it comes down to their actual fighting good question uh well who's a super who who obviously Connor comes to mind I think he's he's a character he's fun he's interesting who else comes to mind is like a superstar I would say Izzy gives that off I think he's an interesting guy other than that there's not like a ton of fun like Ryan Garcia is doing a really good job right now of being [ __ ] interesting being a character uh I think that's fentel I think it's drugs as well I wouldn't deny that but he's still making people interested in Ryan versus Devon Haney was an interesting fight not because Devon Haney that dude's boring as [ __ ] you think he did them roids no I don't think Ryan did I think Devon needs to take that L he being a [ __ ] about I think the craziest [ __ ] you said to me and like I don't even know if we want to put this in there or bring it up but we we can always remove it but uh because of your your situation with the ostarine and you said to me like and it I like fully felt your energy you're like I swear on my daughter's life I never did that and you got popped for it yeah same thing happened uh to Ryan right now he popped for aost the low super low level a some [ __ ] like a trillionth of a gr the same thing happened to me uh so when that came out with Ryan like I truly truly didn't believe he took anything because it was the same [ __ ] and it happens to a lot of [ __ ] ostarine happens to how does that happen it's called the tainted supplement so if you're taking anything that has protein in it that's not third party tested uh could not just protein any kind of supplement that's not third party tested it's either NSF or there's a bunch of different third party tests but if you're not if you're taking something that doesn't have that there's chances there could be something in it but austram people pop for that all the time my case was not that big of a deal cuz I wasn't as huge of a star as I am now but it still was like a big deal because of my name the reason it's going so crazy right now is because Ryan G is a superstar so people are freaking out but it happens to a lot of athletes I just before we move past it I just on that Superstar topic how is that is that Superstar factor that that someone like you has someone like Ryan has someone like Connor has is it something you're born with or is it is it a practice is it something you can learn and do you sit back and like think like oh how can I go viral today how can I I think it's both I think you have to want to be a superstar there's some guys in the UFC like I want to make more money I want this I want that but they don't really want to be a superstar you you got to want it you got to you got to have some kind of vision a long time before well and and also like who you are as a person you have to have that like Fire Within still though like before you got into want famous I want to be in the NFL I want to be NBA I wanted to be a [ __ ] athlete when I was young was instilled I was just for whatever reason I wanted to make it when I was young I'm from H in Montana like small ass can I ask you something what's your opinion on like the take b nickel takes like where he's like super friendly and humble and like I think he's a sweet ass [ __ ] they love him but like bro that [ __ ] pisses me off I think that [ __ ] is cool too n like you're a hum like [ __ ] talk your [ __ ] you're what 670 like bro talk your [ __ ] like it it kind of bores me no I get yeah I mean that's that's some people's opinion is like he's too nice too humble too that but he's being himself um but he's also super young in the sport I think he and he's still pretty what is he 28 you're in a sport of War if I was playing like [ __ ] Cricket I would be like yeah like but that's that's the thing is for for for a character like him what it seems like is that's what he's in is the sport of war and that's it he's not in the sport of entertainment he's a nice ass sweetheart get there is some people that that understand both sides of things but I also have respect for and I see when someone's that's strictly in the sport of if I play chess with you I'm going to be like good game and I'm going to shake your hand I talk [ __ ] be F ass to a PO it I'm going to be like [ __ ] you you need to get better at whatever you're doing dial dialing it back a little bit um to the aost stream thing I think it's like what do you think about Conor tweeting still at like 3:00 a.m. like coked out he he he he sent shots at me and Ryan talking [ __ ] but it's it's crazy coming from Connor who literally got out of the usada pool to do steroid like legit steroids so it's kind of wild and I was the biggest Connor fan for a long time in the last couple weeks ever since he sent that wasn't even a couple weeks ago probably a week ago I've been trying to hate him I've been trying to be like [ __ ] you Connor but I can't I love Connor I it's like I am excited for his fight coming up I'm excited I want you know I'm all about it what's the fight is it Chandler Chandler in June it's going to be big they just been trying to do it for a long time so I didn't know if it still still I think officially I think it's I think I think the craziest part about it is what like eight weeks before a fight that he's still like coked and drunk out of his mind who you got though who that's a good it is crazy that he still like he tweeted that deleted like 20 minutes later he was definitely [ __ ] up on well that's what I was going to say we can't just Grace past that do you is that that's a that's a bold thing to say do you you know he's on coke is that a is that are you [ __ ] gills I don't know anything but I know for certain that he's brother like look at the time of the tweets and look at what he's saying like also and he's like known for this simar tweets yeah yeah I don't know just manic brother I think he is I do think Ryan is I think he when he said he was playing into it a little bit I I think he's kind of using that I think he's [ __ ] crazy what what what would happen if you and Ryan boxed that's I mean there's only one way to find out he has a lot better chances of beating me in a boxing match than he does in a real fight keep up I do I I [ __ ] I truly believe in myself that's how I got to the [ __ ] position I'm in right now I can box I can throw hands um I don't think it'd be easy by any means I do think it's possible I beat him I'm not saying my my odds are great but I do believe I could beat Ryan Bo if there was anybody you could box for your first boxing match debut who are you Bo give an easy fight give me Deon Haney you give [Laughter] me honest answer uh I mean if we're I I would say Floyd if I Pi if I could sit here and pick who I box first boxing fight I pick Floyd because it would be the biggest most crazy most legendary fight maybe not most legendary some people for me okay but outside of that on a skill based level oh I I could hang with some good [ __ ] pro boxers I'm undefeated in boxing you think you think if you and uh ilot boxed that' be ilot is very very [ __ ] skilled boxing that's an interesting question so who what what professional boxer would you equate your PA Mike Tyson I know of Devon Haney now because Ryan Garcia beat him uh dvon Davis he's really short I know him um maybe smacking [ __ ] up though he does he that little guy he can't he can't ride roll coasters though that is true so there's a there's a tradeoff like Cruz fight he was riding a roller coaster no like I'm talking about like at the fair oh no you know like there there's a trade-off in life you know where things get weird it's like it's like yo he's really good but you can't even just hit Dante fan brother can't even ride the top not a Dante fan that's not what I'm wait what did what did I say to say I'm not a you didn't say I mean I don't think he knows that it's a short joke I don't think he picked up on you want me tell him I was joking shut the [ __ ] up I get I say that was a joke I'm what are you trying to say I'm but are you trying to insinuate that I'm short no honestly you're probably what five you're 5'9 you're like 5' seven and a half stop doing stop doing it stop doing that cuz [ __ ] is going to see this and be like he's 5'6 actually if you watching this and you think I'm 5'6 and you want to try me in person please any [ __ ] who see me out I'm punching your [ __ ] out I'm like 5'9 on a good day when when I'm lying to women I'm 5'10 for sure who's gonna ID me I'm wearing forces I'm a [ __ ] liar all right so now for the truth jakee he's like what like he's 5 No but don't do that bro all right all right we won't we'll cut that out like yeah n don't cut it out n don't see me and see these but you know dvon is 5'5 legit that's cool bro I know but is that not short just be honest is that five five short for a grown man for a grown man is that short you can be a fan I'm not I'm a fan of javante and he's five that's a little little bro all right the joke went over his head anyways so the short joke [ __ ] is trying to play me like I'm short no no no we're we're not we're not you're [ __ ] tall all right let's pivot yeah so um SI yeah sh shout out to the shout out to the pivot but but yeah like Jasper's a little riled up things are on edge he's a little he's a little turned up it's been a long day a long two days we've been shooting uh because we have a new [ __ ] company did we say we talk about that yet I we said in the beginning raise your arms up [ __ ] goed [ __ ] goed shout out to w a fun few days it's been a fun few days days you're going to see the content rolling out um but you speaking of but Ruby Rose did a good job oh my God I wanted to bite that M listen anyway if you're near wmart if you're watching this right now I don't give a [ __ ] what you're doing you could be taking care of your kid you could be taking care of your elderly parents [ __ ] them go to Walmart June 1st Nationwide I don't care if you in Pensacola you in Massachusetts all in places that sound [ __ ] stupid there's a Walmart there and you go there it's a better for you product vitamin ifuse number [ __ ] one yeah no basically I I think dialing back like the business story of it because you're also like a very smart businessman intellectual doing everything you do in and outside of the Ring which a lot of people don't have which contributes to you being uh the biggest in my opinion the biggest UFC star um but yeah we we basically I guess this is the podcast where we tell people where W came from but um we started building this company like a year and a half ago and really saw how all these other companies like as we move into better for you products and less harmful products we saw how the leaders in the space didn't have the best formulas didn't have the best manufacturing had all of these harmful substances in it and we're also brands from when I was like 9 years old I don't want to list names but they're still like having all the Shelf space in stores and I was just like this is wild like this is boring this is lame the the the we need something new we need something that's better uh males have vitamin uh deficiencies like crazy especially with magnesium Jasper just can't get enough of it uh especially with magnesium um and biotin is in the body wash uh vitamin E one two of the best vitamins for your skin and hair um but as The Story Goes long story short we we come up with this brand that represents so many things um but I think winning in everyday life whether you're the valedictorian whether you are the high school jock whether you're philanthropist now you have a product that you can embody and wear every single day that's increasing your vitamin intake that is less harmful to you that's where the idea came from and just being the winning formula in category uh went to Walmart pitched them the whole idea they [ __ ] loved it helped us build the brand even and come up with the scent profiles and all the things that are the the most popular um and this has been something I've wanted to do for so long we had to bring in the best people to be a part of it the winners in their category and that's number one Numero Uno sha Ali here um and he instantly saw the vision and already in the past couple of days it's been like super fun filming all the content behind yeah I was pumped when you [ __ ] called me appreciate you thinking of me and uh excited to help grow this business [ __ ] it's needed it's needed we're going to take over the whole bathroom you know tooed if you [ __ ] with the dogs and cows and chickens dog in you I know what I got that dog in me and I use it so be dog free baby am I missing anything with that no I think that was great the one the one thing I would touch on and you did in a way but it's it is body wash it is body spray it is deodorant but it also is there's an ethos that stands behind this brand which is the ethos that you stand for and it's the ethos that you stand for and the ethos that you stand for and the one that I stand for if I say ethos again I'm GNA start stumbling over my words but it's it's it's like you said it it doesn't the winners in life aren't just you you're on a big stage in life you're you're you're crushing it in every aspect financially you're a star you're leading your sport that's awesome on every [ __ ] level it's it's an encouragement to to young men all around the world to [ __ ] get up off their ass and get sh it don't matter if you score high on a test you whatever the [ __ ] it is that you do well maybe not so it matters what the [ __ ] you do but it also doesn't matter what the [ __ ] you do anybody is a winner as long as you put in the work and you have the will to win and I love it I I would say that's wrong I would say that not anybody is a winner and I think that's something that the brand also stands for like you really got to win you got to as you have the will to win no I'm just saying I think that's an important point cuz we live in a world today where a lot of people think everybody can be a winner that's not true if you Los you might be a loser and if you're a loser the good news is there's a hidden l in the logo actually we'll trace it for you with our graphic design team there's a hidden l in the logo because and I I I wanted to make sure that was was a thing because the biggest loss of my life turned out to be the biggest W in my life and I always had the saying like two L's make a w and when I lost to Tommy Fury it was embarrassing all these things but I realized I wasn't focused I wasn't as locked in as I could be the team around me from a boxing standpoint wasn't good I was having personal issues with relationships and all of these things that I had to shed and grow from and I grew into this new and completely different person but I wouldn't have done that if I didn't lose on the biggest stage possible and I think that was part of the ethos ethos ethos ethos of the brand was to encourage people that in their lowest moments to turn those into into their biggest W's eventually when Jake just said that the biggest loss of his life ended up being the biggest W of his life you said same yeah yeah same what what was that story for supposedly lost for lost to Cheeto back in 2020 August it it was I mean it sucked at the time but I it didn't suck too bad because I was like okay I didn't lose because I you know and it was different I wasn't I mean I was focused everything went good training camp everything was good but I was like that sucks I'm goingon to get that back someday when the time is right and then my last fight two two months ago in Miami headline I'm the champ defending my belt against that same guy how rewarding was that three and a half years later August three and a half years later boom beat his ass as a fan of yours it made it so sweet because of all the doubters that constantly like put you down and didn't believe in you and said he was going to destroy you and then you he literally like you embarrass him that was a performance of a life you embarrassed the [ __ ] out of him and I think that's literally a prime example of turning l l into into a w and I really that's what that's where the hidden l in the brand in the logo is um and representing that every single day when you see these products in your bathroom and when we say we have a saying it's not just a product it's a lifestyle absolutely trademarked Incorporated All Rights Reserved 2024 brother uh but but yeah man it's it's an honor to have you a part of this and uh we we really made what we think are the best products on the market from the body wash being exfoliating vitamin infused to the body spray what we found out is a lot of these fragrances like you get like these high-end designer brands that have like $500 colognes turns out it only cost them a dollar to make that and they're literally making like $499 on top of that so we had a fine fragrance house is what these places are called and we got the super expensive scents and gave it to people to what they're worth like we're not trying to these products are super super affordable and I think it's so funny because that's the world we live in where like you just label something and get like a European girl to go this is one of the lower priced men's care products on the market yeah if I'm not mistaken and it's it's the $500 fragrance in the affordable bottle because we want everyone we've been using a body wash in the past two days since we got the samples after the shoot and I personally want to say I got the in there you could bleep it out whatever you want to do W's winning n b genuinely that's that's the saying is the it's winning formula cuz it really is like it really is if if we're going to call our company [ __ ] W it has to be the best we the winners winning product indeed indeed winning customers all that type of [ __ ] indeed better Derek today he's just got a punch I'm not Li I talked to him before he left he wants to punch you up bro he's got a punchable face I like him though it's weird it's like God I like that guy but I want [ __ ] KO pick him up and like it's okay boom one more to the liing me earlier and I'm just letting you know don't shoot the messenger on God he said he wants to get in the ring with you I can call him really he oh yeah he he you want to call him yeah where is he at is wait uh no call no call he's coming up oh um he's talking smack he said he actually wants a spar I swear to God he said he wants to get percentage should I go you guys I literally out let that's crazy timeing saying talk [ __ ] to my face if you're going to talk [ __ ] that's crazy timing what were you saying they were telling me you want to get in the ring and Spar bit or they didn't say Spar they said fight yeah I'm down to do either but uh yeah no I'm just sick of the [ __ ] [ __ ] you've been saying on your podcast uh you called me you made fun of my weight and you called me gay I did not no I well okay okay you said that he wouldn't ever say that what you got to say what your chest that's what I just [ __ ] said bro I he was like oh if I if stand on it you talking to him you talking to him you ain't talking to me my assistant Sono would would piece you he's never boxed a day he never I'm here to fight your video I'm here to fight you what did I what was the first thing I said to you when when I saw you what was the first thing I said to you that we could fight no I said you look thick wait but when we were talking earlier weren't you saying he's a [ __ ] and you wanted to get a ring with him and all type [ __ ] what I'm saying right now say it then I just said the [ __ ] ring so we can after this we have a ring 2 feet away and he's a [ __ ] and whatever else you was saying to me yeah he's [ __ ] what about my hair say something about my hair I I already said that at the W shoot that you look like you haven't showered in [ __ ] a week okay all right d hey buddy hey hey what's your long-term play not no but see you guys you guys are making me seem crazy you're out of your mind he Derek Dereck go warm up hit the hit the heavy back H the warm up is almost listen legendary as send location dble PIV go warm up hey hey double pivot sit sit I'm not [ __ ] no I I'll sit and talk but I'm not [ __ ] no sit on the floor walk you want to take my seat hey how much how much of what's going on ch ch how much of what's going on is is a character versus like actual delusion how much is a character yeah decent uh I would say there are times where I know what I have to do for my boxing career to like like we all why is he laughing cuz you said career I beat your [ __ ] boy your [ __ ] [ __ ] bro you know what I I recall you did beat I recall calling steiny saying what the [ __ ] was that buddy I love steiny but I do remember watching that and thinking I wasn't proud of that I was not proud of that from steiny and I wish I wish he would come to the gym I wish he'd get in there I wish he'd train a little bit and I wish he would have a rematch but that's on him I've been trying to get the rematch but he's been ding me do you think Derek won he said I won I thought I thought he won I'd have to rewatch but I do think I come on baby the comments have [ __ ] dragged me for months after that [ __ ] 99% of the comments say I lost so please say it one more time Sean no I said it what I said it's like therapy or something no but to answer your question uh we all know uh uh as Fighters there's a side of promotion stop [ __ ] first of all Gus shut the [ __ ] up our our audio guys uh like can't stop laughing is that the facial his facial hair or is what he's saying bro that's bold of you to talk facial hair bro that's bold of you to I'm not Li you look dirty you look like Jeffrey done training right Jesus I train every day but anyway we know like there's two sides of of promotion as well as the actual athletic competition that is Combat Sports so there are times where I might play up a little bit like hey promoting but let him go let him go all right if you if all if you think I'm all promoting that I'll see you in the [ __ ] ring and I'll knock both you either of you out well um well Jake's a [ __ ] fat [ __ ] right now he weighs like 240 so I got I goty I gotta pick my words wisely like he's Jake's 240 I I know I know but like I'm not going to sit here and pick a fight against somebody that's 240 when I'm se's my weight class when I stopped you in one round like just like but when I was getting started out of come this is where I'm at since then I told him he could have somebody tag team I'm down I'm down to fight anybody in this [ __ ] room not one person in this room I'm the best part about this is like uh right after this we I think you're you're down to do like one round or three minutes right I mean I'd prefer 12 but we okay yeah 12 I mean that my biggest advantage in the ring ring is my cardio I do 12 12 okay so no I have a genuine question so five round I'm not I'm not one have I ever said I'm a UFC fighter no I'm just say we can box I'm just saying that's I'm used to five you want to do three we could do that aren't you trying to be a boxer with your [ __ ] Ryan Garcia call he would knock knock your [ __ ] ass out so quickly it wouldn't be close I'm one and0 pro boxing what are you actually I saw that video I saw video I'm also want to know thank you officially hey they count that's real commiss but uh I didn't mean I didn't mean to take I didn't mean to take over the pot I just wanted to a couple you definitely didn't yeah okay I try I'm trying to help you no we love you go warm up yeah yeah go warm up the bags don't warm up too much though don't get tired how much do you wa right now without Timberlands and jean shorts on high 120 low 13 no without lying though okay that [ __ ] is you think you got you got him one round I think I could beat him I think I can beat him I I think I could handicap myself to three just put on one glove I could do that what do you think actually happens now when you go downstairs and he gets in that ring like what's his plan that's what I don't get about him but that's why it's that's do me a favor that's why he's Cloud it up because love [ __ ] up [ __ ] he's going he's going to try to Yap he's going to try to talk please just go 100% yeah no actually actually please go 100% if he signs a consent form we'll have him no we've already got like multiple consent forms for better media with like death wavers [ __ ] no no no but he needs it he needs that I'll go like 40 no go like 75 Sean I'm I'm going to be honest bro don't even go 20% he's the nice [ __ ] bro don't do that bro you want him to go 100% no no to be honest but just like work with him and then just like maybe just just like a really good punching and then he'll give up 75% uh I'm nervous man I'm shaking for Derek yeah yeah that's good I understand that there a couple flinches if you Flinch hard enough the the wind coming off you will put him down let him walk you down and bait him boom sleeping what's your next upcoming fight a maraba jaaba and when is that uh not nothing yet I'm hoping for September maybe October maybe November maybe December I'm F ready to go baby what if it was next month I wouldn't be ready to go I like I like 10 to 12 weeks 10 to 12 he likes eight I mean I I normally do like 10 yeah just like but I've been super the first few weeks are [ __ ] pre-amps this Camp I'm channeling my Ryan Garcia would you ever do a Ryan Garcia regiment during Camp drink and smoke every night you do a little I I probably yeah I'm not actually doing that for the people out there he's locked in clocked in locked in locked in ready to go yeah May 20th we start but by the time the people see this it'll be uh June or something like that that is crazy you're fighting Mike that you fought Ben asran wrestler good good [ __ ] UFC was really good UF bit Tyron Woodley twice Anderson Silva knockout of the year with Nate Robinson can't forget about deji deji the the the goat do we say Gibb or is that like that's just crazy resume like literally [ __ ] C by way thank you Gib cuz we had a really good party after he knocked you the [ __ ] out who W we're skipping two professional boxers this always no no the recent ones this always happens I'm trying to just think cuz two cuz this is what everybody asked for this is what everybody asked for who who are the two professional boxers you fighted you got to name them Andre August and Ryan Borland go okay people don't people are like fight a pro boxer and then I do and then they're like that was boring as a man of combat he what were 10 and one nine and one nine and one what is your take on his [ __ ] all of his fights and who he's fighting in the competition dude I've been excited as [ __ ] since I started I remember you I remember the first time I watched was the Nate Robinson I watched that one at home and then uh I don't remember what it was after that but I remember watching Ben Asam in Atlanta I think that was the first time we actually met was right after the fight I think we hugged I was like y I picked you up you carried me back to the locker room that it was love at first sight that was crazy actually yeah actually I [ __ ] with him we became best friends like a couple days later you going to leave me hanging no no I would it's my eyebrow but uh yeah no I think he's obviously super skilled I think it's and I I it's inspired me even in the position I'm at UFC World Champ sexy you know what I mean like tall dark handsome TR inspired me just business the business uh side of things that you've done I've always thought putting on massive fight that's why I'm such a huge Conor fan cuz the pay-per-views he's done is so [ __ ] he's been fighting for four years and [ __ ] that he's been doing the massive fights the fights I get excited for there's a few UFC fights the high the big big fights that I get excited for but every time you fought even when uh Logan fought Floyd I was [ __ ] like excited like all fight week so i' I've been inspired from what you've done from a business side from the boxing side they even just start so not late but for a boxer but these boxers start when they're [ __ ] three four years old like Ryan and tank like they're young buck the Tik Tac I sent you of Devon Haney's debut fight yeah it's wild he was fighting a five foot Mexican in a in a bar was it Dante bro if I show you this [ __ ] oh no I did see that I did see that I did see that when you started even seeing that first video fighting Anderson Silva six fights in bro like do you know how insane that is he's one of the greatest correct me if I'm wrong UFC Strikers in history yeah 100% so does that make me one of the greatest UFC Strikers and one of the greatest wrestlers cuz wood but Ben ask was but Nate Diaz is ducking me in MMA oh am crazy I am weak that's a sick fight MMA I I wish it was that would happened right after the boxing same he's actually ducking it which is why it's crazy because he's not he's not in UFC no but we we upped it to 15 million damn that's crazy though that would be a I like Nate Diaz but that would be such a fun buildup he actually doesn't want to do it all Sean how do you genuinely Jake's not here it's me and you in a room actually how do you see that fight going for Jake what MMA him you're not here J for Nate in MMA keep it a bean God it's it's so hard to you're a big [ __ ] right now on what weight would it be5 185 I don't hate I don't I it's not a it's a winable fight for you I really do think that but Nate is so [ __ ] you would have to do what I did against aljo and morab do not let that [ __ ] grab you not that you can't wrestle cuz I know you can wrestle but once he starts grabbing you and doing Jiu-Jitsu if he gets on top his little he likes his little trips it would be hard for you to win I feel like if he if he started grappling just pure Jiu-Jitsu if it let's be real if it goes to the floor is he [ __ ] if he's on his back Nate's not like a super strong guy so if you learn how to like I mean I'm sure you know how to get up to a single legegg stuff like that but then you start getting your neck grabbed I don't know how much Jiu-Jitsu you know I mean Nate's a [ __ ] high Lev black belt um if you could keep it standing 100% there's winnable ways there if he if he went to the ground feel like he might be able to grab your neck no that that's exactly how I feel about it if I don't get guillotined yeah then I win the fight because even if he was on top take your back but even if he was on top of me I would just throw him off of me cuz he's also the weakest puncher I've ever fought like when he was hitting me I was I almost like started laughing I'm I'm not even saying this to talk [ __ ] out of everyone I've sparred in my whole entire life and everyone I fought his punches are even me we I don't think you ever landed a punch on me is that true well that's not true so I don't anyone no I'm literally not even talking [ __ ] which is why I think it's funny that he dropped Connor and [ __ ] cuz it's just like how Conor with like to the ground yeah like with a straight left hand yeah which is crazy like I I'm not just talking [ __ ] when I say that and I've told you I've literally told you this you told me this after the fight yeah I was like he is the weakest puncher I've ever fought in my life who's who's the weakest puncher you've ever you've ever come to face um there I mean there's been so many fights where I later didn't even get hit um uh does that like make you jaded at all when you get into a fight and you don't really get love that [ __ ] I prefer not to get hit at all but like if I was you and I wasn't get hit at all I'd probably work less no no no no I I know I don't get hit because I work that hard so if I didn't work hard I know I'd probably get hit I'm just a lazy [ __ ] so so here you are on top of the world we're launching [ __ ] W going to be a billion dollar business [ __ ] you I always forget uh UFC champ accomplishing all your goals what do you want next uh what are what is the threeyear fiveyear for Sean I I truly do want to get a boxing fight I'm not I'm not super set on that to where like I'm like going to be [ __ ] if it doesn't happen I do think it'll be interesting especially if I go out there knock morab out Ryan does his thing I think there's a [ __ ] sweet fight there if it doesn't happen not that worried about it want to go out there beat morab I'd like to you know if Max Max and Elia fight I would like to fight go move up to 45 fight the winner of that um you know maybe have three to five maybe have a few more kids definitely want another little baby I love kids my fite pump him out shout out to Danny who's your top pick in a boxing fight though if you if you could choose your Ryan now was like the I mean what he after dvon Beat Ryan I was like javante then Ryan goes out there does his thing really though I think Dante do you is that is that not a big [ __ ] leap Ryan like you said before he's been doing this his whole life one thing that's been proven is that the crossover it's it's not a good return Fury he did his thing okay the excep is the exception we've seen it with okay but then Anthony Joshua put his ass t was crazy super night night he was I'm I'm here for big fights like I wanted to get into the UFC and I wanted to make big fights watching Conor versus Floyd I'm like that [ __ ] happened really happened hey you versus Derek that could be as big as Connor in Floyd but no but I I think the craziest [ __ ] about Conor versus Floyd is that overall it was a W for everyone involved so there's certain fights where it just like doesn't matter what happens that's the world we live in yeah I mean UFC told me they said if the if the fight's big enough and it'll make the UFC money they'll do it what means more to you your your your record being pre or the amount of money you're making all right let me ask you something it's about to get real J's drunk Jasper's drunk as [ __ ] y record or money [ __ ] it depends the Gap like like the gap of money if it's like an extra 10 15 20 million but I lose a couple important fights probably not you just take like 150 million I'll be like like [ __ ] my record baby yeah it depends on the gap of money Jake Paul is not here right now just like a Mayweather Conor McGregor you taking that fight ver Jake yeah no he's my buddy I could I mean I don't I don't even no I no funny no there's you know what's funny is always in my Snapchat story once once a day pretty much someone says we knock out Jake Paul like there's every sing all the time for so long people just want to see me get [ __ ] is good though that's like the thing yeah but I'm sensitive it is funny though people [ __ ] love to hate confidence the craziest thing though actually about both of you like I met you very recently like I didn't realize you're as like normal as you are I don't know why I thought you violent like you guys are both like very goofy mellow and stupid and c and and awesome it's like the greatest thing ever like I couldn't believe when I met you you're like one of us like yeah I wouldn't think you're a [ __ ] yeah one of the coolest people in the world for sure yeah but not a lot of people uh can like I don't know we have like a weird it's hard toes Meat Heads I'm like this the this my dog I think it's a little bit of dark humor too it's like some [ __ ] up [ __ ] that we say off camera [ __ ] sometimes but I think it's like there's a certain yeah like that's how my whole group is back home it's like we all just we're all just kind of [ __ ] dumb I'm smart but like they're dumb well someone commented like yo Jake Paul's the dumbest genius in the world and I was just like I say that [ __ ] all the time you wed up the other day and I was like this is the most genius dumbass in the world no jokes Hey Brother chill buddy trying to get me cancelled no what how old are you 23 are you really yeah no you're not he's not is he what do you think think what did you think Oh no you're 267 27 what did you think he was I thought he was older I thought he was like 27 26 yeah a niggaer mature was that ladies you got a boo you got a girl you just be slanging she timeout right now I don't really talk about she don't time out it's a little tricky she not taking care of herself what do you guys think about Tom Brady R you watch it yeah they kept comp panning to you every 5 Seconds bro I swear there's a huge camer sitting there the whole time but it's cool to see Netflix going hard like that cuz they went hard they swing that meat around huha yeah let's pivot yeah just sorry about him I'm drunk man not yeah but but it was it was great it wasar they should have got rid of most of the football players going up there yeah there's a couple ones Ben afflac is that who that was on there that was wild that was so weird that was so weird it was cool to see how [ __ ] less sensitive people are becoming I feel like feel like it's recently like there's a big push back I think people got sick of it we went super super super PC for a long time people were like wait a second we like being able to say what we want to say I saw kill Tony say oh type of crazy [ __ ] on there that watch every [ __ ] Monday you were on kill Tony yeah how old are you actually buddy I'm a comedian Budd full time no yeah I was on that I was nervous as hell though I was like just being it's a live I do podcast once a week like me and Tim do our podcast every [ __ ] week but to be there in front of an audience live it's weird it's a different kind of well so you say Tim but let's let's talk about actually the fact that you get trained by by one of the greatest boxers of all time it's really that's something what's happened like that's crazy working with Canelo as your as your coach that's what I'm saying people don't going to be Ryan but like yeah that is true I never even thought about that for did you even know that this guy proba even know that that orange [ __ ] is nice wait will I get cancelled by the ginger community no you're black oh no my dad my dad's Ginger and I'm I'm like this [ __ ] is ginger bro he be shaving he be shaving his beard and I zoom in zoom in it's it's slightly orange so I'm a quarter ginger on South Park they made fun of Gingers and that [ __ ] made the news I [ __ ] with the ginger people but like y'all [ __ ] you like redhead girls oh yeah was Super Soaker but anyway yeah like y'all [ __ ] is orange and that's okay but back to you one of y'all that's not drunk I got a question cuz this guy clipped out a lot did Tim actually like you guys about him like saying to fight that was yeah that was real Tim always be talking [ __ ] to the like he's been doing that for so long so what happened he just talk I mean he just he Alo the knee's coming Alo you got to shoot Alo watch out for this like he's been saying that since I've been in the UFC like my debut vers terion where he was talking [ __ ] to terion too and uh he just does it every fight but this happened to just be crazy timing to like Tim you got Tim like alre you got to go and like literally he he like that's when he threw that left hand or whatever stepped into Southpaw and uh or stepped into Orthodox and got dropped it was it was funny the timing because he's like Al you got to go I don't I truly don't think that's why that's not why Alo went I bet you could I bet Alo didn't even hear that but Tim's always chirping and stuff but people on the internet are [ __ ] mad about that a lot of them actually like it I'll say majority of people are thinking that's the funniest [ __ ] ever there's a couple [ __ ] that are like you should be banned think it's a fight would you run the alra fight back or one and done never I like that why would I yeah am I supposed to top that you know what I'm saying I got love for Alo we had him on the show and he he seems like a good dude I actually don't mind Alo I does that ever happen where like you'll have a personal relationship with someone personal runin with them and it's all great but then now all of a sudden you have to fight each other I've never had I've not of running with someone that's been like uh more than like I've ran into aljo morab at the UFC I'm like hey what's up talk to him a little bit you know nothing no ill will um but I haven't had like a run with someone I actually lik them mhm and then at the fight them so you're not friends with any any other UFC fighters oh I have a there's there's a couple guys in my in my weight class that I train with at the lab that are like climbing the r uh ladders what happened with uh the 125 pounder I I don't even know his name and I'm not I'm just not like yeah what's his name I Alexander pania bro this story is actually kind of funny so 2016 I think it was it was like 3 and0 4 and0 and I was still fighting at like I fought at 125 not too long before that I fought at like 130 which is in a weight class was like so I wasn't like a 155 like I am now I was probably like 14 back then and uh Henry cejudo comes in I'm three or four and0 at the point at this point it comes in with this kid Alexander PTO just won The Ultimate Fighter I think he's got his UFC debut or it's his second UFC fight he's a couple weeks out from his fight I'm [ __ ] the night before me and Tim ripping bongs like hanging out being goofballs and [ __ ] so the next morning so we brought him in for sparring hry sudo brings in Alexander you're 4-0 he's King [ __ ] he he's just won The Ultimate Fighter and so they write the names on on the board who who you're sparring I'm like oh [ __ ] I got Alexander Pantoja versus me for one round one round he has three rounds so you write one one name then usually you you spar with one guy then they go out you spar with a fresh guy they go out spar with the fresh guy that's usually how it works so my name was just up there for one round that's it we Spar one round I didn't know anything about him cuz I I didn't really watch it like that 25 I don't really watch 25ers like that but somebody's like oh [ __ ] that's he a black belt he just won The Ultimate Fighter I was like oh [ __ ] I got to [ __ ] Focus up here first round boom Dro him with a liver kick and I wasn't going to post I record all my rounds I have so many sparring rounds like I wasn't going to post it was and for some reason I don't know why he would talk [ __ ] and bring it up cuz I literally I don't know you know know I don't know if you know how it works but you finish a guy the fight's over right no no did he um so I finished him the first round he hit him boom with the liver I posted the video yesterday and I've had it for a long time I didn't want to post it CU you don't post sparring like that but he just kept bringing it up so boom finished him first round um then uh after the first round round I go to walk out and Henry's over there crying box of Kleenex just like [ __ ] wiping his tears crying we want you for a second round so mad that this little like I was nobody just finished his dude he's in the UFC he's supposed to be the man finish him in the first round so Henry's crying saying he wants another round um so I piece him up again in the second round and I'm I'm dying at this point my lungs are burning I'm not in shape for fight I I'm nowhere near in Camp for a fight and I my lungs are hurting and uh Henry again crying blowing his nose and like I want you for a third and Benson comes in Benson Henderson absolute Legend comes in and was yelling cuz that's his it was the his gym the MMA lab we don't let people come in our gym and make us tired and blah blah blah and I'm [ __ ] just just huffing and puffing I just got done work in this dude for 10 minutes finished him in the first round did I say that liver kick um we'll put the footage I have the foot yeah it's right there insert the footage so third round come out boom piece him up again and he's so I don't know why he keeps bringing up this bringing this up in the media I think it's because people ask him but I don't know why he doesn't just say yeah yeah no no I don't want to talk about it he keeps saying like he's like oh I got in I found his range and [ __ ] I'm like bro you you stopped him in one round stopped him in round one and let him live and continue to fight for round two these delusional uh like wild people are weirdos but the reason I posted cuz he kept bringing it up exactly wait so is he the champ now at 125 yeah okay but why does he still want to talk [ __ ] to you if you got [ __ ] up that's what I'm saying I don't know either either you drop to 125 and get that no I can't drop to 125 that's too much now you're a thick [ __ ] I am a thick but yeah I SP I think it's important for up and cominging Spar uh fighters to record their rounds and watch their rounds not for that this reason you know but just to I've improve so much watching my sparring y I have thousands of rounds maybe not thousands hundreds of rounds from 10 years ago on my on my computer of uh it's like NFL team is watching footage the time [ __ ] 100% got to watch that [ __ ] that's I I have every single round recorded and and again I I don't post sparring either exactly you know put in a highlight video make a vlog boom we're sparring people but it's never like [ __ ] up your guy yeah exactly but Mike Perry honestly like what he's been doing is pretty Fu he went to Bare knuckle that [ __ ] just meant for him bare knuckle fighting it's crazy different going crazy he's doing good he's [ __ ] undefeated over there he's beating some really good guys stay over here [ __ ] [ __ ] only place that you should be getting tickets from is game time.co it's it's the only place I go it is the only place you can possibly go they have 110% price match guarantee that's what we use to get our tickets for the NBA Finals you can get $20 off your first order go to gametime.co JJ a $20 off your first order they're doing a deal specifically for y'all and you could see where your tickets are before you buy them seeing the seats they have all of the these great policies last 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platform there is Mike Paul versus Jake Tyson here's my official prediction tell us and even if even if it's against me like it's not it's not I do think you're going to beat Mike Tyson uh it's crazy that I even saying that out loud right now cuz you're fighting Mike Tyson it's [ __ ] crazy even just when we were walking down the the street today people all genders all ages knew you were fighting Mike Tyson it's such a massive fights live on Netflix which is [ __ ] crazy it's in a stadium which is [ __ ] crazy it is crazy I believe in you I see what you I see what you're doing I see you know that you believe in yourself Mike Tyson is uh hasn't fought in however long it's been so for him to just come up and get a fight be I I'm sure is going to be in as good a shape as he possibly could be in but it's just you know it's it's it's it's not his time right now I love Mike Tyson I never actually met him but I love Mike Tyson I do think Jake's gonna get the job done and I do think eight rounds eight two-minute rounds eight two-minute rounds I believe I believe you could put them away in the later rounds you know five six seven eight I do think you could put it put him down which is crazy to even [ __ ] think you rap yeah that's fire I'm just lazy and inconsistent that's not a w no that sh it is not you start using Brandon yell at him every day but cuz you can actually spit that's fire no but but people know him now from like podcasting they don't know he's a rapper and hurts his soul J sick name Lil jizz what J JZ that's good that's good you should switch your [ __ ] I switch my [ __ ] from come Master to kill Jas bro honestly though that's I think singing rapping spitting is one of the things that if I could switch talents be doing something like that that's good or twerking I ain't going to lie you shook that [ __ ] earlier I got a I got a thing on me you that [ __ ] wiggle a little bit let's let's pivot though cuz yep hit a pivot uh yeah do we have a speaker should we play Jasper's new song or something you got a new one I thought you were lazy some new [ __ ] go ahead play on your phone just put it in the speaker put it in the mic too this the [ __ ] I'm dropping when I'm Indie that sound decent I'm not rapping either I'm yapping that's not going to get you drunk yo I made this beat that's crazy I like the way you look I won't lie you got something I need you my with a fly girl like you doing with no guy a little sh don't really go outside I'm not crazy right place and right time you all smiles and pretty light brown [Music] [Music] like that better if I forget you but I just can't time saying do better and I'm sure you can find that guy that's worth all right cut it cut it cut it that's that's enough that's enough that's enough that's enough for real can't give the whole thing it's not out yet yeah hey good [ __ ] that's fire I'll be rapping though but that's some pop [ __ ] just cuz I can do it so why are you consistent cuz I'm lazy and jaded and and spoiled yeah it's unfortunate maam shout out to the homies for a lot of talented people out there that just are yeah don't smoke crack yo also there there is a parallel there don't do don't do that there's a parallel with the same thing he's talking about I think Fighters probably where it's like you could have all the talent in the world he's got that's why I get so [ __ ] mad at him it's cuz he has all the talent in the world really I get more pissed off than he gets and he could be a superstar but he just is lazy he doesn't put the work in he's not he's not strategic and it is hard when you got when you live in a crib in Puerto Rico right you got chefs and [ __ ] and you fly private with me yeah that's it that's it bro that's it you got to you got get paychecks and [ __ ] y'all got to evict me that's not a bad idea honestly I think we talked about it let's make I was I'm H we had a conversation but I just can't I can't because I love you so much I need you but then I'll probably be more like need you y yeah I guarante and then we you would still have to like fly in once a week to to do the pods and it would be resentment and then I I'll go out like and I'll try to start shooting at y'all oh my God I guarantee I would be in the position I'm in if I if I had money and like had already made it like financially had [ __ ] I wouldn't have made it that's why people think I'm crazy but CC the other side of it is like boom right so I'm from com California same hey shout out my [ __ ] yeah man I was homeless for the first half of my life mom's a drug addict dad's a gang member I've never had anything in my life right and my whole life has been music I dropped out in ninth grade I was like I'm going to make music my dad kicks me out he's like you can't live under this roof like be more like your brothers my brothers are [ __ ] star students one got a full ride scholarship loser all all type of [ __ ] nerd ass [ __ ] all those [ __ ] are fat and unemploy now one dropped out of school a full rise scholarship and is just sitting at home right so boom from having nothing to like me saying I'm going to risk everything that I have in my life to become a music artist and it works I get to a certain place and I'm like damn I did exactly I hit a ceiling right so it's like now I had to recalibrate he got a big record deal and then and then like use I crashed out and became a m addict for four four days a week for 30 like 90 days oh it's not bad but then I moved cuz my homeboy was like you need to move and I was like nah [ __ ] that I made a million I ain't going to move I'm going to maintain this lifestyle I'm a junkie but I'm rich yep I crashed out and was like yeah I need to move lost 60 lbs went to Puerto Rico locked in recalibrated and now I'm ready to be but that's that's here's the problem we run into now is that you've recalibrated and now it's still it's been 6 months the album's supposed to be 6 months ago and we're still waiting for the album that's the problem and that's what you got to work on never too late though let's start it let's get because you're vitamin deficient right yeah yeah cuz like a lot of people can't think straight when they're vitamin deficient and all that a week ago kind of elaborated on that so yeah this isn't therapy um I got shout out Suzie right right huh Susie but she's hot is she not you think my therapist you guys got the same one I could pee and vape on this podcast I got to go pee go pee I could pee yeah I mean I think we I think we end the episode because uh let's wrap it up you can get W available at Walmart anyway if you walk into Walmart whether you with your mom your daddy you by yourself you go in that [ __ ] men body care aisle you buy that and comment down below what you thought of the episode for um us being brain fried over and uh jper but Buzz also comment cuz this coming out when the product releases comment your favorite scent and sent $10,000 right no I'm send you 1,000 I ain't 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you have better day with a record of no wins no losses I beat ste's [ __ ] out no anything he is 5'7 120 lbs lost in the mile to better JoJo but he's still delusional in his fighting career and to my left in the winning Corner sponsored by W sugar sha Ali The Undefeated UFC champion of the world it's time to fight bring it to the center we already spoke about the rules in the locker room beforehand give me your glove give me your hand touch gloves I want a clean fair fight no no hits below the waist back to your Corners time you ready judge you ready and fight [Music] [Applause] I'm out of balance or something oh do Dodge that [ __ ] hold on hold on hold on hold [ __ ] come on come on just oh my God one back of the head no no no back of the head four ref didn't see it five six me in the eyes Walk This Way Walk This Way for me he's running Walk This Way for me my car run all right and we're in in that right that's called all right time time time one two that was a that was a slip four up six bro Rizo what the [ __ ] are you doing all right get up SLP all right come on time in come on got come on got you [ __ ] black I'm going to I need to work I need to see some work black UT D somebody said 10 seconds like 8 seconds ago all right great back to your corner back to your corner back to your corner stay in there you're doing good right now this feel good I feel good do you see that one I landed clean on his face I think we all terrible shut the [ __ ] up for once in your [ __ ] life shut the [ __ ] up Sean's doing half punches on him shut up I'll act like uh no don't act like bro I'm just I'm putting in work all right how this how you when you [ __ ] beat the old wash UFC fighters everybody comments you're fighting old was UFC fighters what do you think 10s I think they're right in in round two round two round two oh got him [ __ ] oh [Music] [ __ ] hey put that hey that that's a that's going to be a 10 count can't get me by the that's going to be a 10 count that's going to be a 10 count next time back in the just there going to be a 10 count next time get in there give me real quick get him with some you thank you perfect okay BL I'm going to need to see some more one two back to your corner white Corner neutral Corner 5 6 seven eight n look at me thank you bro come on you want to fight do you want to fight when I do you want to fight yes yeah wait wait time back in wake up time time time time time I promise okay it's to the floor the rules of transfer to MMA tap tap tap he's St he's T he's ta all right I block out all right you're good to go wait wait the fight was over get the [ __ ] out of the ring oh it's over it's over it's over it's over go you got it's over it's over it's over [Music]	count that's going to be a 10 count next time back in the just there going to be a 10 count next time get in there give me real quick get him with some you thank you perfect okay BL I'm going to need to see some more one two back to your corner white Corner 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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyZyHHexx7s	4,101	oyZyHHexx7s	2022-12-07 00:00:00	even though I was quite comfortable there I was going to get executed they said they were going to make an example of a Westerner and I think I was it so so I had to there's a time limit there yeah if you get caught you're finished you cannot get caught that's what put most people off I couldn't get people to go with me I had to go out the old-fashioned way which was um cut my way out of the cell bars [Music] it's great to have you back David obviously we've met before but for anyone who doesn't know who you are for new listeners or new viewers could you give us a brief introduction to what you are famous for well I suppose uh most well known for uh having escaped to prison in Thailand in Bangkok uh the biggest one they have there clong Prim it uh wasn't something I did frivolously I was going to be executed within a couple of weeks so it seemed like a good time to leave okay now um we're going to get into that in a bit more detail but one thing that I remember about you from last time is you're the most incredible talker and we took away the inter the initial interview we've done with you and ended up having to make it into two long episodes because you have a lot of different very colorful uh experiences so do forgive me if I Jimmy us through oh no I can understand that I mean the only place I never talk is in the police station I always like some of my uh work colleagues took um what was it one slap to get them talking but five to shut them up oh okay so let's go right back to the beginning um you were born in the UK and then I believe you emigrated to Australia well um it was all a family thing yes I was born in basewater in London I spent the first few years of my life then uh there but my parents broke up divorced and I went with my mother to Australia with my older sister so I don't have any really very early memories of London apart from some old eight millimeter movie footage of me learning to walk in Hyde Park my dad was waving a five pound note in front of my face and I was making every effort to grab it I continued that behavior for many many years afterwards returned to Australia um finished some schooling um got really contrasting jobs I worked in an adult Agency for a while um but also before that I was got a job in a cinema now it was the and under literally an underground place but it was there that I got introduced to a bunch of crooks um some of the girls there had boyfriends that I used to run down with um strange boxes or bits of money or fur coats and then wink at me bolt out the back door pursued by often policemen undercover ones of course whom we'd misdirect somewhere but that Circle they were um safe crackers and they really didn't trust Outsiders and didn't much like the sound of me but because of I demonstrated a couple of things by being look everybody was really very anti-authority then I I don't mean hostile but for people now they they wouldn't have experienced that in the uh late 60s 70s we were so snotty and arrogant we really thought we were going to change the world and that um the laws were all nothing and the way to change them was to break them well that was the kind of vanity we had so um when I got to know the safe crackers uh better there was something really interesting I mean I didn't like the idea you know stealing things seemed a bit tacky but on the other hand they kind of all needed the money from the from their backgrounds and everything but that wasn't so much the the interest it was the technicalities of getting into these things okay um they used to drill through the top um having anchored it with the drill with clamps and and put a kind of little lens inside a cystoscope used in medicine and watch the the wheels turning around this is the old kind of old-fashioned Hollywood style it was yeah and um behind the safe were three discs and you had to line them up and they'd once they got in they'd take the door with them so that the opposition the safe makers wouldn't know how they'd got in and it was a a constant battle between the manufacturers and them because they've come across new safes which had Special Metals in it that was mixed like a a crunchy nut bar very hard metals very soft ones so the drill bit would slip on them snap and you got a sense that this was almost like a game where um they would try something then try to beat them and they were very loyal to each other um they they never spoke out of school as it were um when I got involved with them I'd only have to if I had trouble I don't have to make one phone call and people would appear out of nowhere and I thought yeah this this is kind of better than the treacherous boys school that I I grew up in and how old were you at this point um 19 years old 19. so were you thinking you were making a conscious decision to move into illegal activities or at that point in time and at that point in the world did it feel like more of a kind of a bit of roguish fun would you say I was drawn to it anyway because it was interesting and um I didn't really have a lot of fear I think sometimes what we do or don't do is depending on how scary it seems yeah agreed um I was born with a low resting heart rate as they say you know if it's below 70 you're a risk taker I don't know why that is when the safe crackers retired they put some of their money into growing little crops of weed and so on but profit margin is is only through importing because like the price difference is cheap in the source countries expensive where it sells so because they couldn't do it they were almost throwing it down like a challenge like we don't know anybody who can do this and I thought well I traveled a lot um I didn't think it was going to be impossible um I thought the odds were in my phone and I looked it up I went to the library and sort of researched it a bit and where were you thinking which country Well they um they were very keen to get some um hashish from India or Nepal or somewhere okay I could see um it's bulky and there's packing problems so um they funded me and off I sailed now the operation my first operation was so deplorably bad I'm barely 20 years old I my cunning plan which involved a big piece of exported Machinery which had weights in it so the weights would come out the cash would go in it would weigh the same being returned and it was a piece of Television equipment or something that went South immediately when I didn't realize that I would have to pay a huge deposit in duty to even bring it in as a demo machine so forget that I ended up in short meeting a guy in a money exchange section of a bank I was there because I ran out and I had to send asking for more from the boys and I met him and he wasn't involved in any of this but he soon became that just he managed to get me six kilos of hash I took the 1952 ancient Grundig radio from his parents house the Shelf there guttered the thing like a fish wrapped it up and he had to get cling film in those days think of this before you travel arriving with a suitcase full of cling film doesn't look good I suppose but uh wedged it in there and then just flew back to Sydney now you can imagine what happened well just before we get on to what happened you know one thing that strikes me is what year was would this have been this was uh 77 77 so it's amazing think that back then if someone was going to India for the first time now they could go on Google Maps they could research it or they could find out who they could find phone numbers contacts they could be put in contact with people before they've even set off whereas you must have at that age at that time been going in slightly blind you know touching down in a foreign country that you didn't know well no contacts was that not quite daunting well what was more um troubling with um how everything would fail and then I'd have to um you know come up with another plan what context somebody I knew um um there were no bank robber who joined the hare krishnas and fled to India right and I had his name and and the ashram in Delhi where where he was was supposed to have been uh I didn't really catch up with him on that trip but okay sure so so then you get back to Australia with your radio that is now full to the brim with and I get stopped you you did get stopped okay I could stop because uh I'm I'm on a British passport um and it's the only trip I've ever done and I'm that age I'd stop me oh fatherly type was at the Customs desk now the the systems were different in those days um it was Sydney too which is very and certainly was very relaxed back then right he opened the suitcase uh there was nothing in there except a pair of socks there's a towel wrapping up this massive radio which he lifted up so it was buckled at the sides little red packets poking out oh it smelled like a hedgehog for a patchouliers okay not much of a disguise um he let me go he uh put it back looked around to make sure that none of his workmates were watching him being so soft um and then turned to me and said you're going back there you're going to do this again [Music] all right you can take your we'll call it a radio shall we get out of here what he thought I realized later was that he didn't want the whole grammar of the day arresting me filling out papers and it would have been a a long time plus I guess being a dad he thought if I he's obviously an idiot you're right if I send him into Gladiator Academy or it wasn't really like that in those days but certainly contact center um the prison what am I doing um well I guess uh he was hopeful you know I whilst out of there must have smuggling me but I experienced then what um I got years later which was kind of a real Downer after you know having got nowhere with The Hare krishnas and and cultivated the shoeshine boys and had my money stolen at Amex uh by some Scallywags in Delhi all sorts of Little Adventures over there in India and nonetheless made it it's kind of like that's all there is to it I I didn't really want to give it to anyone um sort of felt like you didn't have a big moment of no a bit of money that came earlier that's handy right uh I paid back what I owed and settled up for for the next thing so but once that was started when you sorry I interrupted you go oh I was just going to say it to finish it even though they'd funded me the guys were very surprised to see me back but at all at all oh you made it oh because some of them say oh you'll just run away with it uh even if that's what he's doing who knows what he's doing you know and then I could see sitting around you can imagine there's like a table full of well like three guys and then a kind of Darkness shrouded over that room I thought uh it's not valuable enough to kill me you know what what is this mood why did you bring that well that's what you've been talking about yeah you could have loaded that with cane or smack or something you guys we say nothing but terrible things about a class or heavy drugs that don't want to know about it right and I could read then that wait a minute there we're all might be guys together and having fun getting into the safe and whatnot but there was a kind of different it was something a very strong lesson I'd have to be thoughtful about that um there could be times where things didn't work out not necessarily that my safety was at risk I didn't see it that way but I knew that there were Ruthless People right okay yeah so you got an insight into a mindset that had been a bit below the surface it was there I just chose not to see it but um I then went on to you know refine everything and Vary everything and then did you after that first time did you were you still working sort of for them or did you immediately well when you wake up on your own when things um I picked up and there was enough money around out of uh out of strategy rather than just being a nice guy I gave my partners a kind of thank you bonus from the next thing that I did but I did that all myself right so it was almost like a yeah separation and I wanted to go back to the my hippie friends anyway they were a little less it wasn't that they were scary but but that didn't last because they were maybe friends might be all right but they will certainly careless and stupid but from from that point onwards after that initial Journey was that you then into the world of smuggling I thought this won't last forever you only need one setback and that changes it I probably made quite a lot of money and I could have got out but and I should have gotta you know I have couriers a leak from one of the the couriers brought the police to me and here was the problem with it it was at first I scattered now I was married to my first wife then clearly Italian girl her dad had restaurants I grabbed her I had a secret drawer with extra passports in it some money ended up four plane Journeys later in um off the Bahamas had the skipper of a day rent yacht and take me out to an island and nobody had ever been on before it was empty sat there on a towel I thought hmm the level of surveillance I had means it's quite a big operation they're funded and I checked with a lawyer before the bigger the money they spent the more determined they'll be stay away or go back I mean I don't know why would anybody do this uh well I wasn't broke um I didn't have to there was no pressure on me the more I went through the problems the more attractive the whole thing is uh she didn't like it much well again do you think because it was a puzzle to be solved because um arrogance really we've gone from basically someone who was kind of mildly interested in making a group of people meeting a group of um safe hackers to someone who pulled off their first thing and then we've jumped to someone who has people working for them and and now is no longer taking the risk themselves now the police are on to you and you're on this desert island well small island and you're thinking about going back into it was this like a turning point in your life in terms of going you know because the other option I suppose was to go straight but were you just more it was that just not an option for you I'd gone to my lawyer Ralph he said look this is what I picked up because I my travel agent had tipped me to a couple of detectives that come in he traveled again while I was in on the phone okay uh actually they're all innocent really yeah you know and and gave him a long list of names um they wanted travel details for and a telephone number which I traced uh to um a private office building which had been rented by state and federal police they were so distrusting of their own they didn't want to even run this thing from um regular police headquarters my lawyer said well what you sure it's you said Ralph look at the list of names there's 30 there I'm 26 of them passports are a lot easier to get back then than there now so you had 26 aliases that you were traveling on yeah right okay um and I described where they were he said David they are funded well they're not bear this in mind but although I what they won't get me with anything they're funded you think they're going to walk away after a year and say oh sorry boss you spend a million dollars and uh nothing doing they don't work like that but this is how stubborn I was I thought because he said the only thing you can do is disappear for at least a couple of years and then you can come back if that's what you want and of course I had justifications for it I thought okay I'll I'll build up a bit more money and then I'll disappear but um it was only after things went terribly badly that I realized I shouldn't play like this anymore what it was they um because the challenge just kept coming so now so did you go back to Australia I went back to Australia and and when I retired within three months right but they weren't waiting for you to arrest you or no no they wanted they wanted something solid okay [Music] um I won't go into the long machinations of it all but um somebody we knew uh was getting things from a Thai Courier and he got arrested he sold us out to the police so that that The Courier would now come to us and I always have some solid evidence right he would bring things but we got away with that because that was another challenge but the police got tired of all this arrested me no drugs of course so it was a difficult case the worst kind of case is that where there's no solid evidence and in a way it's better to go to court where you've got a Smoking Gun and a dead body on the ground because at least you know where you are but where there's nothing tangible and it's conspiracies and this was a huge trial six months long what is that 119 Witnesses 6 000 pages of uh telephone intercept massive thing won't made it worse too and I think this was um would change things for me um the pressure was put on for confessions but it'd be silly to confess and you can't confess on somebody else's behalf can you that's not nice um lots of the family were arrested even my mother was taken and it went oh wow just to put pressure on uh did she know what you did oh she had an idea right okay I mean I used to have bin liners full of money I'd leave behind the fridge yeah you don't get that in the cinema do you not done not a very good day you know uh because they arrested so many people now when they arrested our wives and my business partner Michael his wife just had a baby it was we had to do a deal here I didn't want to but I was going to say I said to Michael look I know you don't like it but we'll play to it get the girls out of trouble we'll Escape that's a good challenge that way [Music] um but unfortunately um the intelligence section put an arsonist Informer in with the girls to get some information her fire was lit uh burnt down the women's prison and my wife and my business partner's wife was were killed uh that's awful and so the Informer that they put in there yeah why did they pick an arsonist for Daniel writer name was I don't know why I remember that after 40 years God so that's quite a big that was oh and and just uh to make things worse the story put about town to scare the careers into talking because they wouldn't speak was that we'd we were killing off all the witnesses and starting with our own family where does that come from um we ended up in a super max prison nightmarish electronic zoo with two inch glass and electronic doors and insane inmates held 48 death rate 27 people a year died in that little supermax going to court in Chains with a SWAT team taking it it was so so much Michael fell to pieces he was just a wreck he didn't make it uh he survived the jail but died when he got out the only way I could survive all of that was to strip away everything I you know I found myself in the supermax concrete everything's concrete the bed everything there's no everything's still just with the tape player from my lure listening to the the tapes the bug tapes the microphones in my house I could play back my life for the last six months clearly you're moving from room to room taking telephone calls she was crying about something I didn't know what I never know and David that's gone immerse yourself in the worst that they have you will not survive this otherwise trial sort of went not so good acquitted of most things but convicted enough 10 years difficult imprisonment but I the only way I could deal with it was to say did I want revenge that was more my fault I brought this about I got her in there I mean a family of a very kind to me about it considering I wouldn't be but it doesn't matter in Chains and super Mech strip it all away it is nothing everyone is a potential enemy everything it just nothing mattered win the day win the night I mean this is a place we had to fill in a book to get some toilet paper the showers were in front of them in a glass box um if you went on a visit they'd zip you up and lock you in a suit so you had no pockets there was after that and her death I felt like there was nothing that could affect me you're wrong about these things you know we're human but I got out and they were there they even visited me to say we'll be on you when you get out the police yeah we enjoyed the old days didn't you yeah I said pretending you know and just to make the point that they were there when I got out um I I'd done a whole lot of Woodwork in the prison in the last place I was at carving intricate things making these really great trick Chinese boxes with beeswax they intercepted the van that was taking it from the prison back to my house and smashed it all to pieces I put it in a box just to say don't think that we will never be here we can do what we want so I decided to leave the country I was um how old am I by then let's work it out yeah uh I started all this Mischief when I was about 18 got arrested at 22. 23 uh um 16 years 17 years either under surveillance or in bad prisons got out and I'm under surveillance again um so how old so you're number 37 about 37. so that's already you know that's a big chunk of Life there but you've lost quite a lot of it to prison or surveillance well at no point now were you like okay and I wasn't a normal person uh really when I got out because of the experience of prison I'd already stripped most of Myself Away to deal with the death of the Superman yeah and and watching people be burnt to death in the place which was frequent somebody had contact glue pulled all over him and then satellite oh God Gods came in and the other one's standing there with a Tire swinging it around to make sure to let him burn let him burn Jesus Barry's name was testicles swollen like apples but black okay he died two hours later in hospital anyway um that was regular account to deal with that I'd already strip things away so when I got a little apartment when I got out and my mother had arranged things for me when they were there when they'd leave rude messages on my answer machine when they'd be behind me everywhere I thought all right I remember this David it never ends if you want to survive go back to the way you were you know in in the super max Anything Can Happen anytime but I didn't want to live like that um I got a fresh passport and most elaborate means um I could spend a week explaining how that came into existence but I went to Thailand to pick up some money I had three days there it was just before Christmas I left at that time on purpose so that they maybe I thought maybe it's their weak point that they want to have families in their life just at Christmas I've parked my mum's car and and left the keys somewhere for her nobody knew were you not meant to leave the country no no no licenses oh I see we're just going to take a minute here to talk about a sponsor of this show which is manscaped we were sent a package to try out by manscaped but Conor one of 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minutes um so why are we doing that the risk is it worth it I didn't want to play anymore right I wanted to uh see if I could have a something resembling like a a real life just to find some corner of the world plan was to to return to London and oh so you were leaving forever I'm leaving forever okay I see nobody knew it um I had a couple of hundred thousand in Thailand I thought um which I returned to pick up um now I suppose people say this Crooks always say this most unusual circumstances led to my arrest well they were but then again they always are aren't they or you wouldn't be telling the story or you wouldn't have been arrested but um the USDA was involved lots of people lots of players uh no real drugs are found uh they did an airport sweep and listed me up for like an ounce of something and a false passport or two the money I had just disappeared into pockets but those when I arrived there I felt so free I knew this identity was good I just like floating on air really I slipped out of my protective mode you know that when we stick to the plan and all right you don't want to leave I should have even stayed there for six months just get some sensible view of the world but I I didn't uh and as I went to the airport I could see they were all around me and I melted back into the crowd and disappeared again I thought well that serves me right for changing that attitude I'd had from back in super max and I just glaze over concentrate on the details which I needed to do because when I went to make a phone call later at the travel agency uh waiting it was so depressing being thrown into the Thai prison and I had some idea what they'd be like um people I'd known had been arrested there I knew this much it never won a case you never get out well you get out and what were they arresting you for was it the the uh the passport um what did the the the money wasn't I mean what did they leave 4 000 or something like that right and there are airports we put um I saw the guy walking in with it in a plastic bag you know whatever people throw on the floor before they go through security there was a bit of hash this usual bits of weed but what they really wanted was um this 25 grams of heroin because that would finish me off a policeman um Australian one said was that yours yeah yeah sure it was he said I didn't think so what would you be carrying around that for I mean if it was 10 kilos I might understand but but that was enough the death penalty and was it yours no no no so where where would that come from if you do they do a sweep every afternoon at five o'clock they get tons of it right I get you know nervous passengers go up and then they change their minds and they throw it in the toilet too and were they just did do you think they believed it was yours or do you think they were just going this is we need to give him this bit no no I think they were using it hoping to that would be good to hold and maybe they could get something else find out what I was up to who I was seeing because I had met um somebody who's whose uncle was a big player right so there was there was I think they were optimistic there might be more Camp come out of it but but there wasn't but what difference did it make and I wasn't really worried about um those drugs or the death penalty I wanted to die anyway frankly my first escape plans from there had this I imagine getting out to find the Privacy to kill myself right I wanted to go to the dusa Tony Hotel I knew Which floor and where to get onto the roof I'd taken photographs from there many years before um they were you simply couldn't get a moment's piece dormitories with 150 guys in them screaming all night um we can't even take a crap in peace in the Thai prison We're Not Afraid though of what killing myself well no I mean I don't know being brutalized by the guards or the inmates so well I knew enough about Thailand to to know that it was a little more comic than than bad there were very bad things happen they used to um they've beaten people a couple of people get beaten to death every day there but it's a very big prison we have to get that in proportion I only wish they wouldn't use the food trolley to take the dead bodies out because um you know they don't clean them up um and could you speak the language or were you quite it was a quite different communication uh not really uh and the few languages that uh pitch up in my travels I always found that even if you know them it's better to pretend you don't okay um because they'll talk about you behind your back you know certainly didn't live it on there was I I just couldn't see any point I'd gone to such elaborate precautions on this trip um it just shouldn't have happened and I even got away from the airport and still it happened oh all that confidence that I'll figure a way out I didn't care anymore I just had enough um and I remember seeing an old guy there if you had to go to court they put change on you and um you'd line up on the ground now this old guy I was looking at him because I don't know why a big soundtrack went past he had the presence of mind to push his head under that sand truck and oh it twisted it around popped like a watermelon being dropped on the ground oh my God guys very annoyed told the trustees to get that thing away out of sight was that nice thing called it I thought you Brave bastard you yeah you've got the guts to do that was it not quite a disturbing thing to witness no it was shocking because if you haven't seen it kind of thing up close and I happen to be looking um it was uh but that that's how I felt about it but I was saved In The End by a con man and people say a lot of bad things about economy they do yes they do and they uh you can't be trusted uh they are rottenness and they will cheat you just because they're the Scorpion that's in their nature uh but sometimes they're just what you need and this rather smooth um Bostonian American um who spoke Thai and really knew his way around and I you know I thought the somewhere in this huge prison there'd be an enclave of rich and corrupt foreigners with loads of money and there'd be luxuries it wasn't there was nobody of any importance in there you know a couple of big sacrifices had been made but um a couple of very rich policemen who were in the hospital in intensive care but other than that it was it was just um the people who reached the absolute bottom Drifters in Asia who did run after run and then got sacrificed to the machine they'd get about four jobs a big Syndicate there operating careers had run four times bang they'd shot them to the police they'd be gone oh God they will turn told the same story and it was Joe it was this guest house it was such and such identical and um and and at this point had you been sentenced to death had you received oh no no no I I was trying to avoid that yeah once I came to my senses because the the Boston con had so many wonderful schemes medical thing to get me bail and know some way of a escape with a go to court I get snatched from there I had villains come over and and scope out the court too because there was a way I thought of getting out of there from the lift that took you up to the the building uh snatched from the middle as you go down changed into a different set of clothes but they all got scared thing about um some of our most loved uh and fearless villains they're pretty good in the local manner but you throw them into a place like that where people carry machine guns and shoot at will just for the hell of it not so confident they like the upper edge of being snakes um so I couldn't convince anybody to really help and it was just as well um and two and a half years passed there in this prison it's a long time it was I sort of perked up a little bit pulled myself together started exercising um got a couple of ATM cards over hadn't my favorite god um he was in charge of the the building bought myself a room renovated um so you had you bought a room within the prison that was just for you rented that's rented right you know and is that an official thing that you're allowed to do right there are places in the world where it's official right but you had an influx of money that you could pay for special treats you could survive there on um less than 500 pounds a month and be king oh wow was this the 70s or the 80s now by the way we're into um 90 495 19 the 495 because what's reported about you is that during the 80s you were a multi-millionaire um is that accurate um now what do we call a multi-millionaires a young halfway with a million and a quarter on a glass coffee table and looks around the living room and thinks I've got to get a sofa one of these days um oh goes to the car auctions in the morning buys a big yank tank with a 427 Chevy engine in it um drives it around makes his own car parking spaces you know we're smashing the front in backing the other one pushing the other cars out of the way um oh stoned off my head most of the time uh if I wasn't stunned enough I'd take a few mandracks just to colludes icing on the cake um so I didn't take care of the money and the money didn't take care of me so I guess I'm like the reason I the reason I asked was because it must have been quite a stark change going from a very rich existence to basically somewhere where you basically couldn't pay for anything initially and it was a very poor existence but I guess from what you're saying there it's not like you felt like you were Rich at the time um I've made that contrast a few times when I had my first big arrest I couldn't as I was in a cold near lightless cell of blue stone and horse hair mattress about two inches thick and wrecking a piss I would think back to the night before when I had my important to tell in huge bed and Irish linen sheets and swimming pool out there and um and we had to kind of shake off the contrast but that rubber banding must must have been hard to take because it's you're going from basically the aspiration of almost everyone where you're talking about just buying cars outright and having a swimming pool to a piss stinking bed you know it must be it was you know it's odd thing about it was providing I could see a way out a work a way out I didn't so much mind oh okay um I really trained myself to expect my whatever world I built up and and this happened several times I've done it five times had a new identity New Life new surroundings even new people and dang they're gone and every time it got worse um and there was even Thailand was desperately important because even though it was quite comfortable there I was going to get executed they said they were going to make an example of a Westerner and I think I was it um you know I was somebody that nobody minded killing um so so I had to there's a time limit there yeah there's nothing like the prospect of being executed by a machine gun which is the way they did it God is that what it would have been wow yeah you know oh they'd have three guards all with a bit of string on the trigger and they'd all pull it once so that none of them could be condemned in the Buddhist sense of sin oh they don't even actually right I see it caused the bullet that finished you off oh I see so you're in the Thai prison you've been sentenced to uh rather unpleasant death penalty um how did you start coming up with this famous plan for escaping um desperation it was the last plan that looked like it was going to work um there were probably about 20 plans considered um everything from being the prison held I've since found out it holds 22 000 people oh my God in 10 sub prisons uh there's a women's section there's a young offenders there's a special reminder a drug unit all of that um just a wild place it has everything it even had a prisoner-run shop where you could extract you could borrow money against your account and cash anyway um one of the plans involved being welded into a VW Combi van in the prisons Auto Workshop which would be picked up early Monday morning and I'd be driven out and that another one was um there were several courtroom ones and you couldn't just pay your way out no no it's just you could pay to have a mobile phone which in those days was a rare thing but they were around um you could pay for a bottle of clong uh whiskey you could pay I'm sure you could pay to get a a girl in your room if you could work out what a room was that a whole section full of ladyboys there and got a building full of them they used to open it up on Saturdays so um you could pay for anything but not to leave they couldn't cover that and they couldn't trust each other you would need 25 30 different guards paid off and and the gods of visitors I mean too many guides no that wouldn't work and they looked at it as a kind of betrayal only if I saw two escapes attempts there one group of uh straight kids and a Singaporean got out of their cell incredibly turned themselves into the sleeping God when they'd all lied to each other about what they didn't have you know the ropes and ways out because they're it was so outraged that they'd spoiled the guys jobs they beat them to death slowly tortured them over three months to death having put them in little code lockers the soy they call them drag them out in elephant chains every day and batter them senseless uh internal bleeding usually did it um look I've got a bowl of rice and a painting to poo in that was it um even the water was it was just too horrible so if you get caught you're finished you cannot get caught that's what put most people off even my Swedish friends Sten the Viking he backed out at the last minute I couldn't get people to go with me all the other plants had fallen to bits because they depended on other people I had to go out the old-fashioned way which was um cut my way out of the cell bars and I needed equipment for that and here's a really important point I guess as bad as this world is you've got to try to find good people if you ask somebody if you asked your friend yeah and and you're finished you'll manage to get a phone call and say friend it's been here um I need you to get um I don't know four hacksaw blades and cut them into the dowel rods of a of a poster and then paint it all up and send it in a huge package with this that cable ties gaffer tape but disguise all that how many people are going to do it turn around wouldn't believe it Ben called me what his neck yeah he's screwed but anyway he wouldn't believe but he wants me to do this that now people don't do it but Michael on the other hand our business partner wouldn't even let me explain he hadn't heard from me in 18 months he said David don't explain I'm sure we could get cut off tell me the important part now where do I have to be and what do I have to bring no that's a friend um and so I've always tried to do the same for the others that I've known like that um but um I did get the equipment together that I needed and everything um about escapes from a big prison is not like your hope it's going to be you know I turned it out walked around the streets and it had streets inside it um and timed it with my trusty Casio and it was so I knew roughly how long it would take to get me but the night's a different world I'm a prisoner I'm only used to noise during the day even the fan chopping around in the Cell at night it's so quiet everything I did squeaked and rattled and twisted I came across a panel that had to be a nail had to come out and that and they'll protest it and scream their wrench out of the way it took um uh seven or eight worlds uh sorry seven or eight walls to cross over I say worlds because they really were every building was a different thing and I got lost and I went past the terminal AIDS Ward that building hundreds of guys all die and I could smell it before I got there because this necrotic Rotting Flesh and I couldn't resist looking in I'm carrying this huge long ladder made out of bamboo poles and fake picture frames gaffer taped along the center [Music] um and I looked up and I saw all these little faces in the Moonlight wrapped in so much pain and despair they didn't have the energy to cry out to the guards if they'd been in any other prisoners they would have the trustees there were absolute scum of the earth had whistled little uniforms sell the drugs one day and the rest of the guys for it the next all of that um and it was only by um well I only got to the outer wall by Dawn and if somebody had been with me I wouldn't have made it either you wouldn't have no imagine I've taken all night to get there and at each point where this something was unexpected I've had to dream up something and I get a little basic toolkit and I sometimes I'd have to sacrifice part of my ladder to make a hook to pull down barbed wire and the technique for using the thing was awkward you had to prop it walk up drop down the other side so you're twisting over the walls like that manual is entirely barbed wire so I had to go underneath it covered in mud the the last one was really too high and there was a Mars bar Creek the the moat that ran around I did you know if I was with somebody else we'd be arguing wouldn't we oh Spa Creek oh it was full of turds bombing around it was caught out of the sewer yeah you did ask um illustrative okay we're just gonna take a quick break from the show to talk about a sponsor of this episode better help better help is an online Counseling Service which connects people to therapists and counselors I'm joined by one of our producers bryony is counseling something you've had experience with do you know what it's interesting because when I was growing up the same kind of challenges in life would happen but people wouldn't necessarily go to therapy or talk about therapy and I feel like since uh maybe my late teens early 20s people are starting to go to therapy and talking about it and I have definitely used it in my life 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no endless searching for the right therapist learn more and save 10 of your first month at betterhelp.com minutes with that's betterhelp help help.com minutes with um now there was one way of oh Beyond marsburg create this a foot and a half of land before this huge huge wall you've got to get a ladder that's too heavy to carry too imbalanced to do anything with but you've got a bit of rope how do you get it to the other side of Mars bar which has all got tangled barb wire in that so it'll catch get it in place and up against the wall when you've got no ground to to walk on now there is a way and uh I guess people have to listen to me describe it either to you or in my book okay fine but too long to tell here sure but um I could see the glow of dawn as I got to the top which had electricity running through it too just to make it the top of the wall dead yeah yeah wow but um my friend who um was in there a bit of a technician is to belong to the anarchist Society in in Britain how would you belong to a society that has rules when you anyway putting that aside he did tell me that it would only be 240 volts but to be careful um and just managed to get over that and because the original plan was to um oh there was an outer moat beyond that of 20 meters I had my clothes ready to go into a plastic bag swim the moat but just as well I didn't um because all it turned out all the guards houses were over the other side of that moat this would not be a place to go but I cleaned myself up threw some clothes on and I one of the jobs that I didn't do but I was supposed to be doing was working in the Umbrella Factory so I paid a local boy to do it um I've got a pop-up umbrella from there I thought you know you really get a perspective about I want to just simple discrimination but being an outsider a foreigner the way sometimes people feel picked upon you know we were called the white trash and we were in in Chains and everything so I knew I had to cover my face in the popular did it and I managed to get to a place where a passport was hidden and to the airport and still had a working ATM card to get me out of the country into Singapore so did you end up with the umbrella did you walk out the front gate yeah I did I had some long trousers on now in their prisoners are not allowed to wear them so I had some khaki pants I thought they might as I walked around the the narrow path to the front gate it's still mote but a little Bridge I thought another figure it's a guard arriving late and sneaking in and I did I felt like Ripley an alien uh looking at thinking lucky lucky this is where it all ends doesn't it and I'm thinking that every moment and looking up and there was just enough light rain to justify the umbrella yeah I would learn later that was actually the not a rain from the gods but the spittle of their laughter because they had worse things in mind for me later on I mean it's so it's you know how many people are you aware how many people had escaped from that prison up to that point was it some every year or was it very infrequent none um the ties sometimes ran away when they were doing the gardens in Chains outside but Escape From Within um I'd known of in 20 years people could recall two attempts no foreigners um and they didn't trust the foreigners that's why they put you on the third floor right quite rightly yes and and how long had it taken you from like the beginning of the uh I started cutting at um 11 45 I paid a lot to get a light switch in there normally the lights are on all the time um okay and I said to my favorite guard oh yeah Ponting or whatever his name was I can't sleep with that thing I'll put a light switch in um um now they didn't say it as corruption or bribe taking they thought I'm doing this nice guy a favor and I'll be lucky because of it that's a very big thing over there you know if I get caught I'm unlucky then so they can batter me to death I mean sure it's kind of self-justifies any action that a human being might take so he started cutting around eight for 11 45 11 45 okay it's quite close through one bar by two in the morning oh God stencia listen we'll go on the next note I looked around and Kevin the American from Hawaii I didn't even know this was happening uh Mirage the Indian I know he's going to talk the next morning he was kakaria LA pantaloni right in the cell never mind holding out and not saying anything he would have it would have been finished I never would have made it and I guess I could have seen the missing bars potentially but I learned later on I actually caught up with somebody who was in there Scottish guy um he was there for selling ecstasy to the Two well-off Sons and Daughters of wealthy policemen anyway um he remembers they the guards couldn't figure that I'd left oh um he said David they ran around the the prison calling out your name it was Daniel Westlake while I was there Daniel Daniel they okay that somebody drew their attention to the cut bar in there yeah my Scottish friend said they the gods wanted they thought that okay he's got out he's angry about something uh Daniel but he's not actually he'll never get out he couldn't get it they never found the the ladder down the front wall until much much later so for um uh uh only one of them said oh we better check the airport they sent a couple of guys down there um just a little bit late and you were gone by then only just and remember man you've got a passport from a Chinese connection that you barely know but kind of like the cut of his jib but are you gonna put your life on the line on that and at every moment you're handing it over you know like the look of it yeah they don't like the look of it they're typing it up and you're thinking they got onto the computer have they done that bit uh have they entered my arrival was this I knew it was freshly stolen or sold off was only a few weeks old uh I mean not new was had only gone missing a few weeks earlier so it was still good but very nerve-wracking and I didn't have a photo I had to use my old um uh radio operators license that had a photograph in it to get reproduced into this thing so it was a bit grainy um and even on the plane it was delay and takeoff oh God and a mumbling Captain oh sorry um we we have a thing with one passenger I just asked what thing exactly soon enough thwomp doors to manual oh but I've got an hour you know looking at this passport I don't like it get to Singapore but I make it through so you got to Singapore yeah but you did end up going back to prison not a Thai prison but a different prison he's suggesting uh I did something wrong well I'm hoping you're going to tell me um no well okay uh I didn't stay in Singapore long because um I sat there in the hotel room unable to digest food not prepared by my own cook sure I in the hotel room in Singapore I realized you could work out who had left that day if they'd flown my air by simply going to the airport and children you work it out yourselves at home you check everybody who's left separate the foreigners hmm go a step further let's keep the Canadian and American the British the Australian New Zealand all the English-speaking passport Society um just to you know reduce the numbers take those names check with the embassies any of these names belong to lost or stolen passports that have been reported yeah five of them because that's Bangkok you know not the only Mischief maker there but nonetheless um they probably knew I could be who was I Charles McClintock hmm sorry Charles I had to borrow your passport but it was an essential cause but you're not wanted anymore of course are you no but I did get an unwelcome knock at the door some years ago uh by the police who um would it be to go excuse me Westminster Court known for the terrorist cases extradition or parking fights wow I'd lift the car anywhere lately so it was going to be one of the other two and it was extradition to Thailand I fought that case for two years and um it was difficult um but managed to effectively win in the end so the ties have dropped that one and I can't be taken back there I'm not wanted anywhere um I can nobody can do what they want but um I I'm not I haven't got anything pending I'm not in business I'm a bit cautious I even got sent something in the the mail a few years ago and I thought it was some gift from some halfway ambitious wombat in in Pakistan sending me a bit of dope thinking oh yeah there's a gift you might like that connection made no I mean people had my address all around the world ever since Danny Dyer um it turned out to be more complicated than that but um very dangerous for me to walk into a courtroom so I don't even imagine you're me and knock at the door oh here's something for you Ben you don't like the look of it you refuse it you're in court no matter why did you refuse that was it your name no you was up The Jig was up proof ladies and gentlemen oh you accept it ah you accepted it proof ladies and gentlemen wife saying to me Jeanette and whom I met in Pakistan years ago and she was there to fish out her husband on a two-ton hash deal he didn't make it anyway um she said throw the thing away I'm thinking in court again ladies and gentlemen he threw the stuff away I can't win so very cautious about all that kind of stuff um fair enough but I take it you won't be going for a holiday to Thailand anytime soon I didn't think so okay so how many do you know off the top of your head of your life how many years of your life have you spent in prison ultimately I did add it up once I'm 66 now and I suppose I've spent um but 22 years the thing that occurs to me and I met you before and I thought the same thing is like you obviously extremely intelligent extremely resourceful it can't be well but well anyway but do you regret the choices you made in terms of do you see those 22 years in prison as something you had no control over it's just the way the dice rolled or do you see them as a mistake on your part um worse than a mistake mistake suggest you didn't know uh where you were going wrong I was taking those steps into uh of a precipice that I'd defied there is no gravity I said I said I will work out something before I hit the ground um when I was It was kind of in stages when I was young it was just arrogance and and showing off and later on when everything was destroyed it was kind of I'd scraped away all of my life and would just go on um then in the third stage it was escaping away from places rebuilding up and being weakened every time it was taken away again um and do I regret it yeah I'm sure I um no you know some people say oh yeah but David just smuggled everything on Earth you scumbag you you know um think of the lives you've destroyed and the people you've heard ah and I go to start to explain that it's not quite black and white uh I mean I've had drug habits myself that I've carelessly allowed um but I thought what's the point anything I say we just sound like self-justification so well don't listen to me then you know but things that have happened that have taught me a lot it's interesting you say that because one of a lot of the comments on our well on the first video we did a lot of the comments where people saying someone needs to make a movie about this guy but a lot of the other comments were people saying he's so charismatic and likable but he must be a really dangerous person to have been involved with all these worlds for so long and um we've interviewed a couple of drug smugglers and I would say they're the ones that I've met have been the ones that probably are more someone you'd see is traditionally quite an obviously dangerous person you come across as very Charming charismatic roguish where do you see yourself on that scale do you see yourself as someone who was dangerous or do you see yourself as someone who's just moved from area to area as it occurred um kind of like this a dangerous I suppose what most people see that and you know if somebody was a problem for me would I find the best option to have them killed or not but really there always was a kind of Vestige of that's a failure if you can't think of anything better than to have them killed then then then what are you doing there's a million clever ways of solving your problems and that besides which there's always going to be people you can't kill everybody um not only that who killed the killers that you've got to do the killing you know you know they always say that about the quiet ones and all of that but it was the people who bothered to put up a smoke screen um they're establishing a um later Alibi a courtroom personality but I met him he didn't seem bothered by all of that why would he have him killed and those are the ones that um seem to be more dangerous and if I was such a dangerous person like that I certainly been absolute fool to break from that mold and say otherwise wouldn't it very true David it's great to see you again thank you so much for coming in always a pleasure yeah and I've Got a Feeling we'll be seeing you again at some point as well it's possible it does may cross thank you I'll be like oh my God they're in my head they they know they know that was a song and so they put that song on the radio and it's all everything revolves around me or you know and this happened well sometimes happens today you know I'm I'm thinking of someone in my head someone under there like on the street	even though I was quite comfortable there I was going to get executed they said they were going to make an example of a Westerner and I think I was it so so I had to there's a time limit there yeah if you get caught you're finished you cannot get caught that's what put most people off I couldn't get people to go with me I had to go out the old-fashioned way which was um cut my way out of the cell bars [Music] it's great to have you back David obviously we've met before but for anyone who doesn't know who you are for new listeners or new viewers could you give us a brief introduction to what you are famous for well I suppose uh most well known for uh having escaped to prison in Thailand in Bangkok uh the biggest one they have there clong Prim it uh wasn't something I did frivolously I was going to be executed within a couple of weeks so it seemed like a good time to leave okay now um we're going to get into that in a bit more detail but one thing that I remember about you from last time is you're the most incredible talker and we took away the inter the initial interview we've done with you and ended up having to make it into two long episodes because you have a lot of different very colorful uh experiences so do forgive me if I	-5	8	7	even though I was quite comfortable there I was going to get executed they said they were going to make an example of a Westerner and I think I was it so so I had to there's a time limit there yeah if you get caught you're finished you cannot get caught that's what put most people off I couldn't get people to go with me I had to go out the old-fashioned way which was um cut my way out of the cell bars	it's great to have you back David obviously we've met before but for anyone who doesn't know who you are for new listeners or new viewers could you give us a brief introduction to what you are famous for	2,-5,8	8,4,2	2	-5	8	8	4	2

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