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it's weird i i've never not done it and it's always one of those things where it's like everyone's like oh watch out you know
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yeah
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yeah no that's how it's going to be for me i'm going to be freaking out and every i was here i was on the east coast for three years and every year twice a year i would either be an hour early to work or an hour late to work like something screwed up because i just i don't get it like i'm not a stupid kid i just don't get it ummm and like i said i've never had to do it ummm in panama that was a weird thing when i was in panama because panaman't turn their clocks it was the same time it was in arizona even though all central and south america is different time zone half the year except for panama you know and then living in flagstaff the indian reservation is right there and then the university the indian reservations and i work at the university and sometimes you know i'd be making phone calls for the uhhh for the office and i couldn't call the rez actually the weird thing is the nava rez changes their clocks the hopie res which is right in the middle of the navao rese which is one of the largest reservations in the country the hopy's don't the navaos do and the rest of arizon doesn't
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weird
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yeah very confusing
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and there's one county in indiana
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it doesn't
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uhhh so wait uhhh back to nine eleven
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ten eleven ummm i was sleeping and the hmmm kept ringing and kept ringing and finally i get up and i was completely exasperated and i believe it was my mother that i spoke to first and she said
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she said people are jumping out of airplanes
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i could see them on the television and i thought
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jumping about airplanes because the windows are still
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and then my dad called me he said i don't want you to leave the house cause i live very close to the phoenix international airport i don't want you to leave the house you stay and i thought to myself you know my house is not necessarily a safe place considering where it's placed you know like i'm right in the flight path of you know at least a couple of airlines coming in
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but he was flipping out i don't want you to leave the house and blah blah blah blah and i turned on the television and it was just after they had stopped covering the people jumping
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ummm and immediately started making phone calls because i had you know friends in new york and friends in dc and ummm of course couldn't get through nobody could get through and uhhh we ended up a few of us got together i called in to work which i didn't need to do because nobody was at work ummm and a few of us got together and uhhh sort of
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a halled up over at my friend christy's house who was waiting to hear from her father who was supposed to be like at ground zero that morning so
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that's pretty much how it went and we just sort of it was sort of like a vigill until her dad called and then
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and then the thing the most stark memory i have of post nine eleven is the silence because i live right by the airport and for days we didn't hear a single airplane and it was just
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eerrie it was surreal you know i'm sure living out here was unbelievable less than a month later i was on a plane to portland you know because out there like it just didn't have the effect that it had out here you know i'm sure living you know living living this close to new york city living you know this close to the plane that down in pennsylvania the plane you know came that went down to dc like yeah it's going to hit hard and you're not going to want to get on a plane you know but out there it was just different you know southwest airlines was the only airline that was in the black for months and months and months you know so southwest flights were i think you know our flights actually the tickets that we bought to portland cause we were going to a wedding the tickets that we bought to portland were normal price but the people who got the last minute tickets on that flight which by the way was half empty ummm
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they paid like fifty dollars one way to portland which just because portland is is out of phoenix portland's twenty four hours it's a twenty four hour drive so they make the flights very expensive because people don't want to drive like los angeles they're cheap because the people literally live in phoenix and work in los angeles cause it's an hour flight it's less than an hour forty seven minutes or something like that but usually the portlands are very expensive but they were flying for like fifty nine bucks one way so it was really fascinating to see sort of like
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even though they were the only ones in the black like the way that the way that the whole situation affected their ticketing prices and so on and so forth and they were just i mean they were filling planes you would believe they were double booking
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you know because everybody would fly on the west coast everybody would fly so
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ummm uhhh
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yeah
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steaks
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but we're gonna move on to transcript reading now
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sentences in the blank grey space okay
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but ah yeah it's still it's still fairly still a fairly expensive call but ah but it's a lot less expensive if we do it that way than if we than if we actually make my my my parentsinlaw pay it then it the dutch have such high taxes on those they consider it a luxury to call around the world so they tax it really high anyway so you guys will be in either the eighteenth or the nineteenth and you're going to go to uhhh amsterdam what i would say is once you're at a hotel ummm why don't you call me at work and let me know where you are and then we can make arrangements that day ummm that i can meet you in amsterdam and maybe i'll come by public transport its it's probably easier for me to come by public transport in amsterdam than it is for me to come by car to be honest the streets are small and there's no parking so i probably will come by public transport but i don't know we'll see where you're staying ummm and there's a lot more for you guys if you want to see stuff you can see stuff in amsterdam and uhhh since the days are really long i mean it stays light here t about ten thirty eleven o'clock at night so if you want we can we can take a ride and go see stuff at night and i can take you to some places we can go see uhhh go see some stuff ummm depends on what you guys want to see so you guys should pick up the things you wanna to see and let me know ummm and i'll i'll sit and talk with anya about some things that maybe we think it'd be neat for you to see so if you don't have any ideas we'll put something together for you ummm but yeah but i can pick you up you know i'll probably be there sometime around six and we can like do do a quick dinner or something and then go uhhh and then go yeah go see whatever you wanna see you wanna stay in amsterdam that's fine if you wanna go ah off into the countryside somewhere and see a little bit of the holland real holland we can do that too
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actually i i've been up to holland before it's been about two
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years
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there so ummm but that was years and years ago
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with your parents when your father was stationed over here right
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yeah but we we got to see den hog and places like that too which we're obviously not going to see this
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time but ummm hasn't has kim been here before
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no okay but then again i'm i'm not sure that kim would be interested in seeing shape headquarters and you know all that kind of stuff
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military
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would you be interested in seeing seeing shape headquarters again
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no not really
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yeah i di i didn't think so somehow i had this feeling that that that the military taste had been beaten out of you i'm the mil i can't say too bad things about the military though they still have my goods and they'll probably hold them hostage and they own my body and soul for like another four years so i just got to pray that they yeah i ha i owe four years in active reserve time great
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did they do that everyone
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yeah everyone who everyone who's uhhh who who hasn't been like you were you went through like the thirty six two process so you don't you don't have it but if yeah if you just separate normally and you haven't served at least eight years then you owe
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it and that's one of those things they just never tell you upfront
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no they never said anything i i figured there was something like that because i
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was i was in the inactive reserves the entire time i was in college too
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so yeah that that's i mean that's the military i i have my my discharge papers and everything and i've they i've i've said that yeah i will give a urine sample or a blood sample if they if they call me back for those but they're going to have to pay my trip back to the states ' there's no basis in holland that i'm not going to pay out of my own expenses to go to germany or something for them if they want me they can pay bring me back active duty and pay me for the day that they're going to drag me off somewhere but uhhh first they have to find me
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yeah that
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is
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if you're in another country i mean and you're not planning on coming back to the us what are you what are they going to do even if you don't
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yeah well i mean i'm still american citizen and i still would like to be welcome in my country although yeah i mean if if if if they denied my citizenship and i became a citizen here i probably wouldn't ha be a harra either but uhhh yeah right now i'm i mean i do want to keep my american citizenship so i i kind of want to
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citizen
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what's that
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are you going to try and become a dual citizen
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have dual you can't do you can't do that ummm the only way to be a dual citizen is if you're born in a foreign country like if i were born in in in holland and then went and then had american parents then i could be a dual citizen but you can't if i would ask to become a citizen in holland i would automatically lose my american citizenship
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as far as the americans are concerned yeah
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yeah the dutch could care less the dutch would say fine want to be a dual citizen that's fine but the americans as soon as you ask for another citizenship that act of asking for it takes away your american citizenship it's kind of stupid
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yeah
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so i'm a american re i'm a i'm an expatriot an american expatriot an american living abroad so i still have to file a tax return do you yeah but my first seventy five thousand dollars worth of income is tax free as long as i don't bring it back to the states good
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i
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oh they want their share they want their piece of meat but all foreign taxes are deductible and my taxes here are fifty percent of income so the taxes here are so much higher that yeah i would never have to worry about it
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unless you became ceo of the company then then maybe like a thousand dollars should be taxable right
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yeah some outrageously small amount the problem's going to be the problem is going to be uhhh beanya's american salary is taxable here and at fifty percent so we're going to owe some money to the dutch government on her salary oh some amount that has has be deducted a certain amount and the amount we pay to the american government is deductible but she will still owe some taxes so i don't know how it works we're going to need to have some we're going need to have some sort of accountant do it because i have no clue how that all works
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they don't have the quick and dutch version
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yeah i you i wouldn't trust it because it's so complicated with this international garbage or or else that turbotax
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with the the dutch modules
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yeah i somehow i just wouldn't trust it i don't know it's a little complicated when you're dealing with the dutch tax form ona had to read it in onion her father didn't understand the damn thing how am i supposed to understand it i'm
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really looking forward to moving to oregon and dealing with oregon you pay state tax washington you don't i'm looking forward to that
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because yeah but you'll be a you'll be a student so you i mean your what what is your income
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oh well see i think ummm it'll probably be about five thousand dollars for the for the portion of next year that i'm in oregon or the portion of this year that i'm in oregon and then next year it'll be eleven thousand
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yeah but you'll be below i mean you're below the poverty line at that level so i mean it any income that year
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but then i've already made say like fifteen thousand or whatever here in washington but
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that should be non taxable out of state income
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it should but you know it it just it's not going to be a fun tax return here
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i had that when i went into the military i had k i had to file three taxes i had to file georgia kansas and yeah and then my federal so
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well ummm actually i think this phone call's just about to end because it's only half an hour but ummm so let's see i'll i'll give you a call when we arrive in ho or maybe i'll just call you when we get in holland just to let you know we're there so if we get in the eighteenth or the nineteenth and then call you back when ummm when we get to a hotel or something like that
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okay that's a that's a great idea if you if as soon as you get into holland and you get yourself settled you can call me and uhhh if i'm if it's at night just call ana's parents okay and remember that if you dial in holland you need to add a zero so like right now it's it's one eight one zero area code if you dial in holland it's zero one eight one zero in holland and and then yeah you can just call up if if it's if it's during the work hours fine call me at work if not call on his parents if you don't have a new phone number for me and if you do i'll send it by email if i get it before this weekend i'll we'll email you something but if you don't get emailed and just calling his parents if we have a phone by then they'll be able to give you the number and just remember to ask for her mother
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and it's booed right
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bode e bode bd as in uhhh a bode minus the a
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okay great
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and yeah and i think uhhh it's it's not frou it's yeah it's uhhh it's mavrau mavrau is the uhhh is in you it's frau and german it's frau and then dutch it's maffrau
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i'll probably never remember that so
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nah don't worry about it you can just call her mrs you can just call her mrs and speak english to her she'll she understands just talk slowly and clearly okay and once you're in holland the line will be really clear i mean the phones here are pretty good once you're in the country it's just these over over amer to america it's always kind of iffy
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so you were born in can yes where you grew up ummm until i was thirteen ummm and then i moved to
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so you were born in canada is that where you grew up
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and then i went away and then i came back ummm i was in india for two months i was in asia for a year ummm and yes so i was in indonesia for like eight or nine months vietnam for a month india for two months and bang for a month and so then i just got back about six weeks ago and have just moved back to philly within the past week yeah yeah i'm sure can i ask you questions also or like is it supposed to be an emphasis on my voice well i i don't like i can just we can do an interview style it's not a big deal
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hmmm
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hmmm
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uhhh
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i mean it's going to be an emphasis on you speaking but you can asks it's okay
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well the whole point is that it's it's uhhh conversation it should be as natural as possible so well as you know we're not the participant so we should certainly especially on the phone calls that we do be dominating the conversation but ummm
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okay
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you know it's it's it's yeah because that's the whole point and we want you to be comfortable you know don't not feel like you have to say things just to keep the just you know for it to be recording something
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inevitbly people both speak
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do the conversations like sound natural though i i haven't i've actually done most of my conversations with somebody i know so it's been really natural but i wonder like do a lot of the stranger conversations end up sounding really awkward and stilted are they the best example of natural conversation
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conversation
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but i wonder like do you a lot with this strangers
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no ummm i mean i feel like they definitely can when we we audit them so we don't listen to the entire thing we're going to listen to maybe like four ten minute segments which is really just to make sure that they are conversing and that ummm the signal quality is okay also that it has to be in english we do have uhhh one person that would speak in spanish a lot when they hook up to another person would do it and you're like that's cool but yeah it needs to be in english ummm so ummm and we just hear one side of it we're not listening to the entire conversation we're just hearing one person's call so inevibly you'll be listening to what twos of the conversation just at separate times ummm yeah it can be uhhh there are some there are some participants that are notoriously awkward ummm
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because
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it's like a party trick
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gotcha
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