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2015-06-30-#ubuntu-us-ca
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[01:38] <nhaines> Wait, I thing what's missing here is context.
[01:38] <nhaines> Roguehorse: do you want to know about kickstarters as a backer or a project?
[01:52] * ianorlin right clicks
[02:16] <nhaines> Better than wrong clicks!
[02:17] <pleia2> wrong_clicks--
[02:42] <ianorlin> http://www.gamasutra.com/view/pressreleases/246596/SMACH_Zero_Technical_Specifications.php I wonder how well this could run ubuntu touch
[02:42] <darthrobot`> Title: [Gamasutra - Press Releases - SMACH Zero Technical Specifications]
[02:45] <DonkeyHotei> it's x86, so it cannot
[02:46] <ianorlin> ah
[02:51] <Roguehorse> nhaines: backer
[03:42] <nhaines> Roguehorse: so the way that works is that you find something you believe in and give them money, and hope they can finish it.
[04:12] <Roguehorse> nhaines: Ok, then I guess I would be submitting the project
[04:12] <Roguehorse> nhaines: I've never looked into it before
[04:46] <nhaines> Roguehorse: then the first step is to read the FAQs and look at a few successful crowdfunding campaigns.
[04:46] <nhaines> Typically you need to have a concrete business plan and a working prototype.
[05:34] <Roguehorse> ok.....I'm just getting started but that should be easy enough
[05:59] <nhaines> Crowdfunding is basically for someone who has everything in place and is ready to go and just needs the funding.
[06:00] <nhaines> Because anything less and no one has any confidence to back the project. :)
[12:09] <nhaines> The cat has decided the best place to sleep is in my room, on top of my old jeans on the bed.
[12:10] <nhaines> This is despite otherwise refusing to sit in my lap or sleep on me bed in any general circumstances.
[17:54] <Roguehorse> I have a bloodhound.......he used to sleep on my bed
[17:54] <Roguehorse> he sleeps on the couch now
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:38.704393
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2015-06-30-#ubuntu-ru
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[03:30] <mapps> hi friends
[03:55] <mapps> NOT FRIEND
[03:55] <mapps> enemy of putin him
[04:03] <andrex> hi
[04:04] <mapps> hi friend
[04:04] <andrex> russian only
[04:04] <mapps> aha
[04:04] <mapps> my russian not so good
[04:04] <andrex> use translate.google.com
[04:04] <mapps> ;p
[04:05] <mapps> im a friend of russia ffs
[04:05] <mapps> not enemy
[04:05] <mapps> no gay
[04:06] <mapps> Вы можете сказать мне, где для ходу в Москве?
[04:07] <andrex> уу
[04:07] <andrex> я нет
[04:07] <andrex> придеться подождать когонибудь
[04:07] <mapps> aha
[04:08] <mapps> я люблю russia.dont беспокойство
[04:08] <mapps> :)
[04:08] <mapps> oops
[04:09] <mapps> stupid for translate
[04:09] <andrex> я понял
[04:09] <mapps> ;)
[04:10] <mapps> you speak spanish also?
[04:10] <andrex> no
[04:10] <andrex> try here ##russian
[04:11] <mapps> i thought
[04:11] <mapps> mayve u speak all
[04:11] <mapps> russian people are clever
[04:11] <mapps> :D
[04:12] <mapps> я иду украина сентября
[05:07] <mapps> da
[06:53] <_Konstantin_> как Pidgin свернуть в трей?
[07:01] <_Konstantin_> проблему решил :)
[09:03] <mapps> NIE
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ubuntu-chat
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2015-06-30-#launchpad-dev
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[00:02] * cjwatson embarks on a bit of refactoring there
[00:06] <cjwatson> wgrant: I think it was actually broken by r17579 and we just didn't notice. inferred_vcs shows up in the output.
[00:07] <wgrant> cjwatson: Quite possibly. Must be test ordering.
[00:07] <wgrant> Since that test has passed since then.
[00:07] <cjwatson> Yeah, as I say that test doesn't seem as careful as it should be.
[00:08] <cjwatson> I'm up for a while yet, so I'll clean it up
[00:08] <wgrant> I'd forgotten about the JSON cache when I approved that branch. I'm tempted to revert the inferred_vcs export.
[00:09] <wgrant> blr: What do you think?
[00:09] <wgrant> inferred_vcs should be temporarily, anyway, as we can backfill vcs at some point.
[00:10] <wgrant> And it is causing every Product view to incur Branch and GitRepository queries to render the JSON representation.
[00:17] <cjwatson> I wouldn't be sad about that
[00:27] <blr> wgrant: how valuable is it to expose in the api?
[00:28] <wgrant> blr: I don't think it's very interesting at the moment.
[00:28] <blr> agreed
[00:28] <blr> we really only need it internally for now
[00:30] <blr> wgrant: are you happy to revert the export or shall I?
[00:34] <wgrant> blr: Could you? Most/all of the query count test fixes can probably go.
[00:35] <blr> wgrant: sure
[00:52] <cjwatson> Ha, after starting on this refactoring I notice that I have a branch from March with exactly the same thing in progress
[01:25] <wgrant> cjwatson: I hate it when that happens.
[01:26] <wgrant> Like with the product-aps thing
[01:26] <wgrant> I was looking on DF and wondering why the query didn't use the Product.access_policies that clearly already existed.
[01:27] <wgrant> So I tweak the query locally and the tests fail because the column doesn't exist.
[01:27] <wgrant> I'd worked through most of the solution on DF in February and completely forgotten all about it.
[04:33] <wgrant> blr: All the other test changes are still necessary with that reverteD?
[04:37] <blr> wgrant: hmm perhaps I missed some tests, green with regex 'query_count' and 'test_product', plus the doctest
[04:39] <wgrant> blr: I'd just look through your two testfix merges to see if you've missed anything.
[04:51] <blr> wgrant: yes, the other querycount bumps are necessary (specification, bugtask, gitlisting)
[04:52] <wgrant> blr: Weird, OK.\
[04:52] <wgrant> r=me
[04:52] <wgrant> Thanksw
[05:18] <wgrant> Oh
[05:18] <wgrant> I even filed a bug about the thing I forgot about, with details: https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/1425430
[05:19] <mup> Bug #1425430: Bulk project access checks are slow <privacy> <private-projects> <timeout> <Launchpad itself:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1425430>
[08:25] <cjwatson> blr: I think your latest change will result in duplicated result lines if there is a comment in the dirty header and a comment somewhere else in the same file
[08:28] <cjwatson> blr: You probably want http://paste.ubuntu.com/11797735/ ?
[08:32] <cjwatson> wgrant: Any word on the Soyuz redesign docs you had sketches of?
[08:35] <wgrant> cjwatson: No.
[08:35] <wgrant> Hmm.
[08:35] <wgrant> buildbot is very unhappy with me.
[08:35] <wgrant> I have a vague recollection of Storm leaking references with List attributes.
[08:35] <wgrant> Many years ago.
[08:35] <cjwatson> It really is ...
[08:36] <wgrant> PackageUpload.searchable_versions is a List, though.
[08:36] <wgrant> And it doesn't seem to blow up quite so effectively.
[08:50] <blr> cjwatson: err quite, thanks.
[08:55] <wgrant> I can reproduce it locally, at least, on one test.
[09:02] <blr> wgrant: shall I land this in the morning, given you and buildbot are not on good terms atm?
[09:25] <wgrant> blr: Yeah, landing it now won't exactly work.
[09:29] <wgrant> Ahhh, computers, how I love you.
[09:29] <wgrant> Can reliably reproduce in product-aps-set
[09:30] <wgrant> Cannot reproduce in current devel.
[09:30] <wgrant> But buildbot can.
[09:32] <cjwatson> I'm going to see if I can implement my apt-get build-dep / dose-builddebcheck suggestion today, unless anyone has serious objections.
[09:32] <cjwatson> Starting with trying to backport the thing to precise ...
[09:33] <wgrant> The whole pulling ocaml into everywhere thing is sort of unpleasant.
[09:33] <wgrant> But worth a try, I suppose.
[09:33] <cjwatson> Only into our build-dep chain.
[09:33] <cjwatson> ocaml binaries are standalone once you get them built.
[09:34] <wgrant> Yeah
[09:34] <wgrant> But is ocaml in the interesting bootstrap set today?
[09:34] <blr> ocaml? O.o
[09:34] <wgrant> Oh, it's in main, so it must be.
[09:34] <wgrant> blr: Yes, people are weird, sadly.
[09:35] <cjwatson> This kind of problem often fits functional languages quite well.
[09:35] <wgrant> Indeed.
[09:36] <cjwatson> We could reduce bootstrap problems by allowing lp-buildd to degrade to failing versioned build-dep failures if it doesn't have dose.
[09:37] <cjwatson> ocaml is in main because of llvm-toolchain-* b-ding on dh-ocaml. Not sure why that is.
[09:40] <blr> wgrant: yes, and then write libraries like this http://sumtypes.readthedocs.org/en/latest/
[09:42] <lifeless> wgrant: people are weird w.r.t. ocaml ?
[09:44] <wgrant> lifeless: There are only three projects I've ever cared about written in it, and at least one of them (sks) has no reason to be.
[09:44] <blr> lifeless: I've never met a quant, but I can imagine they would be very weird.
[12:18] <wgrant> I think the leak may be through Storm's MutableValueVariable._event_system, but I'm just avoiding that part of the code entirely for now.
[12:21] <cjwatson> wgrant: Want me to organise a deployment this afternoon if possible, assuming that you defeat it before EOD?
[12:31] <wgrant> cjwatson: Yeah, just waiting for tests to complete.
[12:32] <wgrant> Then I get get -use landed and deployed tomorrow afternoon.
[12:32] <wgrant> Thanks.
[12:58] <wgrant> So perhaps the mere act of reading it is sufficient for doom. Bah.
[13:04] <mpt> Wow bug 1853 is in progress \o/
[13:04] <mup> Bug #1853: Project group "display name" is redundant with "title" <feature> <lp-registry> <projectgroups> <Launchpad itself:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1853>
[13:07] <mpt> The 20th-oldest still-open Launchpad bug report
[20:16] <rpadovani> I know you guys are super busy, but do you have 5 minutes to take a look to https://bugs.launchpad.net/loggerhead/+bug/1436483 ? The diff side by side in completely unusable, and I'm sure it's a 5 minutes fix
[20:16] <mup> Bug #1436483: The diff page side by side has broken layout <loggerhead:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1436483>
[20:43] <blr> rpadovani: certainly not looking very side by side there.
[20:47] <rpadovani> blr, :D I think it's due the radius borders someone added back in march
[20:51] <blr> hmm, that's a different issue, I'm not sure that style should be applied there.
[20:52] <blr> rpadovani: I think the issue is the padding
[20:52] <blr> on .code, .linenumber
[20:54] <blr> rpadovani: thanks for the report, will get that fixed now. I just need to see if that style is being used elsewhere (probably how this bug was introduced)
[20:54] <rpadovani> blr, thanks for the fast response, I should ping you guys more often :D
[20:55] <blr> yeah, please do :)
[21:07] <blr> rpadovani: wow, how long has this been broken, any idea?
[21:08] <blr> bzr blame is suggesting that padding was added in 2011...
[21:08] <rpadovani> blr, so it isn't, because I used to use it until I opened the bug
[21:09] <blr> rpadovani: ok, something else going on in that case (although that did fix it...)
[21:12] <rpadovani> blr, the width of .lineNumber
[21:12] <rpadovani> https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~loggerhead-team/loggerhead/trunk-rich/revision/484
[21:13] <rpadovani> that fixes https://bugs.launchpad.net/loggerhead/+bug/310255
[21:13] <mup> Bug #310255: 6 digit line numbers get cutoff <loggerhead:Fix Released by cruzjbishop> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/310255>
[21:15] <blr> rpadovani: looking for a diff that satisfies both
[21:37] <blr> hmm I don't actually know who reviews loggerhead.. I guess we do?
[21:44] <blr> rpadovani: thanks, cjwaston will probably want to look at that, but should be landed soon.
[21:45] <rpadovani> blr, thanks to you :-)
[21:45] <blr> maybe we need css regression testing!
[21:46] <rpadovani> or a theme ex-novo, maybe responsing (just joking)
[21:47] <blr> a responsive theme for LP would be great, but a fair bit of work I'd imagine.
[21:49] <rpadovani> tbh after the git support the thing I really would like are webhooks (and I see you are working on them)
[21:49] <blr> yep, webhooks are coming :)
[21:49] <rpadovani> \o/
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ubuntu-chat
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2015-06-30-#ubuntu-on-air
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[14:39] <swaveck> howdy
[14:57] <dpm> o/
[15:05] <mj_> Has the session started?
[15:05] <dpm> hi all, sorry for the delay, trying to solve some technical issues
[15:08] <mhall119> mj_: waiting on popey to un-break his computer :)
[15:08] * popey shakes fists at computers
[15:09] <popey> lets all go live in a forest
[15:11] * balloons queues jeporady music
[15:15] <dpm> all fixed, about to start now! :-)
[15:15] <swaveck> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImaYMoTi2g8
[15:16] <popey> \o/
[15:16] <mhall119> if you don't see the video on ubuntuonair.com, refresh the page and it should appear now
[15:17] <swaveck> still nothing
[15:18] <PaulW2U> several refreshes - nothing :(
[15:18] <swaveck> empty page
[15:18] <PaulW2U> video \o/
[15:18] <mhall119> swaveck: try again
[15:18] <swaveck> working now
[15:19] <dpm> sorry, today it was a bit plagued with technical issues
[15:19] <dpm> thanks swaveck for the heads up!
[15:19] <mhall119> \o/ LibreOfficeKit!
[15:20] <nanek> Hi
[15:21] <galeamj> QUESTION: What shall we expect in the next OTA updates next month for the phone?
[15:22] <mhall119> dpm: stop typing
[15:22] <mhall119> galeamj: shell rotation is pretty cool
[15:23] <dpm> https://launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+milestones
[15:24] <popey> https://launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+milestone/ww28-2015
[15:24] <popey> thats the specific milestone
[15:25] <cmug> over the air I thought
[15:26] <mhall119> cmug: ?
[15:26] <Sergelenbaatar> Hi all
[15:26] <cmug> on the air vs over the air..
[15:27] <nanek> [QUESTION] Will it be possible to connect a Ubuntu phone with Ubuntu PC/laptop over bluetooth to recive notifications etc from phone?
[15:27] <galeamj> QUESTION: According to OMG Ubuntu, Unity 8 Desktop shall sport a Slick 3D Task Switcher (http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/06/ubuntu-unity-8-desktop-window-switcher). Is this true?
[15:28] <mhall119> galeamj: it is, or will be. Last I looked it was in a development branch, but not yet in trunk
[15:32] <nanek> Thank you for answer :D
[15:33] <mj_> Great :)
[15:35] <mhall119> "leaked in the bzr branch" lol
[15:35] <dpm> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity8inLXC
[15:36] <popey> :)
[15:36] <cmug> Question: What is happening in Ubuntu TV world? When can I expect something useable
[15:40] <mj_> why should I buy the Meizu phone now when the ocnverged device by BQ is only a few months down the road?
[15:40] <mj_> QUESTION: why should I buy the Meizu phone now when the ocnverged device by BQ is only a few months down the road?
[15:41] <brunch875> maybe you're chinese and it's easier for you to get one :p
[15:41] <jasonyangshadow> Meizu is not as good as huawei
[15:42] <jasonyangshadow> consider about the huawei
[15:42] <jasonyangshadow> :-D
[15:42] <pharma> when 14.04.03 will be available?
[15:43] <jasonyangshadow> A music messaging session has been requested. Please click the MM icon to accept.
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[15:44] <cmug> popey: exactly, experience across the lappy, tv, phone
[15:44] <brunch875> I agree with popey
[15:44] <cmug> Mind control would definately set you apart from competition
[15:49] <mj_> ** to clarify, I already bought the BQ Aquaris 4.5 :)
[15:50] <jasonyangshadow> does anyone try the ubuntu phone?
[15:51] <jasonyangshadow> with the ubuntu os
[15:53] <cmug> thanks guys
[15:53] * brunch875 claps
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2024-05-13T22:11:38.721077
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2015-06-30-#ubuntu-it
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[01:47] <__Myst__> Salve. Vorrei sapere cosa fare se non ho il file/la cartella /usr/local/share/man/man1
[01:48] <__Myst__> Posso semplicemente crearla?
[06:09] <Nis> ciao
[06:09] <Nis> c'è qualcuno :) ?
[06:12] <akis24> !qualcuno | Nis
[06:12] <ubot-it> Nis: la maggior parte delle prime domande fatte in questo canale è del tipo «qualcuno puo' aiutarmi/qualcuno ha tempo/qualcuno usa...?». Fate la vostra domanda tecnica e se qualcuno sa, rispondera'
[06:14] <Nis> Sto installando Ubuntu (il file iso) e a breve lo masterizzerò su DVD. Quando lo avvierò l'installazione richiedere driver o robe del genere?
[06:16] <akis24> Nis: all'inizo limitati a seguire la procedura di installazione poi dopo il sistema ti segnalera' se ci sono aggiornamenti da effettuare .. in quel caso falli .. comunque prima di installare è consigliabile avviare il disco live e testare che funzioni bene tutto usando l'opzione " prova ubuntu senza installare " poi dopo si installa
[06:17] <Nis> Il computer è praticamente senza sistema operativo, come faccio a provare la versione live :) ?
[06:18] <akis24> Nis: imposta da bios l'avvio da lettore cd come prima periferica
[06:19] <Nis> Per debian ricordo che mi avviava un menu di installazione e non c'erano opzioni in cui diceva test o cose del genere :)
[06:19] <glpiana> ola
[06:20] <akis24> Nis: ora ci sono su ubuntu quindi spetta a te decidere quali usare
[06:21] <Nis> akis24: grazie :)
[06:22] <akis24> prego Nis
[08:45] <AL3xXxX> Salve a tutti, è possibile reimpostare la gui di ubuntu 12 sul nuovo ubuntu?
[08:46] <glpiana> AL3xXxX, quale sarebbe la gui di ubuntu 12?
[08:48] <glpiana> AL3xXxX, ubuntu 12.04, ubuntu 12.10 e ubuntu 15.04 hanno tutti la stessa gui, unity
[08:48] <glpiana> quella con la barra a sinistra
[08:49] <AL3xXxX> glpiana, Uhm. Allora ho sbagliato io. Intendevo quella con la barra in basso e la possibilità di avere il mutimonitor
[08:50] <AL3xXxX> glpiana, la versione 11*
[08:50] <glpiana> AL3xXxX, con la 15.04 è stato introdotto mate, che è una rivisitazione di gnome 2, quello che dici tu. per installarlo, installa il pacchetto mate-desktop che si porta dietro il necessario
[08:51] <glpiana> AL3xXxX, anzi, mi correggo, installa il pacchetto ubuntu-mate-desktop
[08:51] <AL3xXxX> glpiana, Ma io vorrei avere anche la vecchia gui. Non posso reinstallare la gnome 2? (Problemi di risorse grafiche)
[08:52] <glpiana> AL3xXxX, metti il pacchetto che ti ho detto
[08:52] <glpiana> gnome 2 non esiste più, ora c'è mate che è identico
[08:53] <AL3xXxX> Ah ok (: Capito
[08:53] <AL3xXxX> Mi ha dato un errore, stò lanciando un comando dpkg configure a
[08:53] <glpiana> AL3xXxX, per intenderci, guarda la galleria id immagini su questa pagina https://ubuntu-mate.org/
[08:54] <glpiana> AL3xXxX, se da ancora errore, copia tutto su pastebin
[08:54] <glpiana> !paste | AL3xXxX
[08:54] <ubot-it> AL3xXxX: http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[08:54] <AL3xXxX> Eh... Purtroppo sono con un altro pc :3 Te lo copio a mano
[08:55] <glpiana> ?????
[08:55] <glpiana> non puoi copiar un errore a mano, dai. collegati col pc in questione
[08:56] <AL3xXxX> Non lo ha dato!
[08:56] <glpiana> AL3xXxX, se non ha dato eerore, cosa volevi copiare?
[08:56] <glpiana> :)
[08:56] <AL3xXxX> Nulla nulla, era nel caso di errore
[08:57] <AL3xXxX> Comunque, se non ti rompo tanto le palle, noto che qui non c'è nessuno quindi volevo farti un paio di domande...
[08:57] <AL3xXxX> Ad esempio, il comando di prima a cosa serviva?
[08:57] <glpiana> AL3xXxX, se sono a tema col canale va bene, altrimenti entra in #ubuntu-it-chat e fammele di là
[08:57] <ExPBoy> come non c'è nessuno?
[08:58] <glpiana> AL3xXxX, intendi sudo dpkg --configure -a?
[08:58] <AL3xXxX> sisi
[08:58] <glpiana> AL3xXxX, configura i pacchetti non configurati
[08:58] <AL3xXxX> Ah capito, ti ringrazio
[08:59] <AL3xXxX> Comunque, altra domandina :D Mi stò avvicinando ora al mondo linux per bene con un piccolo progetto e volevo integrare la semplicità di ubuntu per un noob come me con quello che devo fare.
[08:59] <AL3xXxX> Come posso trasformare ubuntu desk in ubuntu server??
[09:00] <glpiana> AL3xXxX, un server è un pc che fa girare dei servizi. quindi basta che installi i servizi che ti servono, sempre che non ci siano già
[09:01] <AL3xXxX> Alcuni li ho installati, server apache, phpmyadmin, sqlserver
[09:01] <AL3xXxX> Praticamente volevo installare il pacchetto lamp, ma non è più presente pare
[09:01] <ExPBoy> uhm
[09:02] <glpiana> !lamp | AL3xXxX
[09:02] <ubot-it> AL3xXxX: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Server/MySql
[09:15] <AL3xXxX> glpiana, come lo abilito mate?
[09:16] <glpiana> AL3xXxX, basta che chiudi la sessione, e alla schermata di login lo scegli
[09:17] <AL3xXxX> Ma se installassi il server poi potrei implementarci il mate?
[09:17] <AL3xXxX> (so che la risposta è no, però ci provo)
[09:19] <glpiana> AL3xXxX, sì, certo che puoi. alla fine che differenza pensi ci sia tra ubuntu server e ubuntu con una qualsiasi interfaccia grafica?
[09:19] <glpiana> AL3xXxX, la differenza è solo nella presenza/assenza dell'interfaccia grafica
[09:19] <AL3xXxX> Ah
[09:20] <AL3xXxX> Quindi a livello teorico se mettessi il server potrei poi installare ciò che voglio quando voglio e lasciare più leggero il sistema, o sbaglio?
[09:20] <glpiana> AL3xXxX, il sistema server è più leggero deò sistema desktop solo per il fatto che non ci gira l'interfaccia grafica
[09:21] <glpiana> se installi l'interfaccia grafica ti troverai con un server appesantito tanto quanto una versione desktop
[09:21] <AL3xXxX> Stò iniziando ad amare il sistema linux.
[09:24] <AL3xXxX> Stò installando ubuntu server
[09:27] <pluto> Buongiorno, sapete indicarmi se c'è un'applicazione scaricabile da ubuntu per scaricare e convertire in formato mp3 musica da you tube grazie
[09:28] <glpiana> pluto, per scaricare i filmati prendi youtube-dl, per convertirli usi soundconverter (dopo aver installato le librerie per gli mp3, libmp3lame)
[09:31] <pluto> glpiana youtube-dl scaricabile da ubuntu software center?
[09:32] <glpiana> pluto, penso di sì, è nei repository. se non lo trovi, lo installi da terminale
[09:34] <pluto> gipiana vado a vedere se non lo trovassi da terminale il comando è:
[09:34] <glpiana> pluto, sudo apt-get install youtube-dl
[09:35] <pluto> gipiana grazie
[10:43] <Dario85> buongiorno a tutti
[10:44] <Dario85> a chi posso chiedere delle info per il corretto dawnload della versione di ubuntu?
[10:45] <Dario85> nessuno?
[10:45] <krabador> chiedi
[10:47] <Dario85> ho scaricato ed installato la versione lts di ubuntu a 64bit
[10:47] <Dario85> ma alcuni programmi tipo skype nn girano
[10:47] <Dario85> come mai?
[10:47] <Dario85> dipende dal 64 o dal 32 oppure nn c'entra nulla?
[10:49] <krabador> allora Dario85 da dove hai scaricato skype?
[10:49] <Dario85> dal sito di skype
[10:50] <krabador> Dario85: allora devi aprire il terminale
[10:50] <Dario85> cioè?
[10:50] <krabador> andare nella cartella in cui l'hai scaricato
[10:51] <krabador> Dario85: clicc sulla dash, l'icona in alto a sinistra
[10:51] <krabador> scrivi terminale
[10:51] <Dario85> ok
[10:51] <krabador> ci clicchi sopra
[10:52] <Dario85> si ok..terminale aperto
[10:52] <Dario85> poi?
[10:52] <krabador> Dario85: col gestore files vai nella cartella in cui l'hai scaricato , premi ctrl l
[10:52] <krabador> copi il percorso
[10:52] <krabador> sul terminale scrivi cd e incolli il percorso
[10:52] <krabador> invio
[10:53] <krabador> con il comando ls -la vedi se sei nella cartella giusta
[10:53] <krabador> se dentro c'è il tuo file
[10:54] <krabador> al che sufo dpkg -i nomefile.deb
[10:54] <krabador> poi sudo apt-get -yf installato
[11:30] <Guest23866> salve a tutti avrei un quesito usoil browser crhome ma si sta rilevando troppo pesante per il mio 1 gb di ram ed uso xubuntu 14.04 mi consigliate un browser piu leggero ama efficiente?
[11:30] <Guest23866> grazie a tutti
[11:33] <Guest23866> non scrivete in troppi
[11:33] <Guest23866> che non capisco grazie
[11:33] <Carlin0> hai fretta ?
[11:33] <Carlin0> !paga
[11:33] <ubot-it> se il supporto volontario non ti è stato di aiuto sappi che Canonical, casamadre ubuntu, offre un servizio h24 di assistenza a pagamento: http://www.ubuntu.com/management , siamo sicuri che potrai avere tutto l'aiuto tecnico necessario, offrendo inoltre sostentamento ad Ubuntu!
[11:33] <ExPBoy> Guest23866, invece di fare lo spiritoso vedi di entrare con un nick e non in modo Guest grazie
[11:34] <Guest23866> potevate dirlo
[11:34] <Guest23866> subito
[11:34] <Carlin0> Guest23866, cosa intendi con efficente ?
[11:34] <ExPBoy> Guest23866, sai a volte abbiamo da fare
[11:35] <ExPBoy> cerca di avere pazienza
[11:35] <Guest23866> che supporti above
[11:35] <Guest23866> ok ok
[11:35] <Guest23866> posso mettere la web cam questecose qui vedere i filmati you tube
[11:35] <Guest23866> above flash payer insomma
[11:35] <ExPBoy> eh con 1 gb di memoria...
[11:35] <Guest23866> che in crome era integrato
[11:35] <Guest23866> si
[11:36] <Carlin0> è proprio li il problema Guest23866 il flash
[11:36] <Carlin0> non è chrome pesante è il flash
[11:36] <Guest23866> ma con chrome vado lento ma prima andavo bene
[11:36] <ExPBoy> prima quando?
[11:37] <Guest23866> fino ad un mese fa
[11:37] <ExPBoy> si vabbhè
[11:38] <Guest23866> se do il comando top mi usa molta memoria chrome
[11:38] <ExPBoy> Guest23866, e prima che usavi?
[11:40] <Guest23866> sempre crome
[11:40] <Guest23866> chrome
[11:40] <Guest23866> ma sembra essere diventato pesantino
[11:40] <Guest23866> ci mette a caricare le pagine
[11:40] <Guest23866> ho letto di un browser buono
[11:41] <Carlin0> è flash che è pesante non chrome in se
[11:42] <Carlin0> quindi qualsiasi browser tu userai se vai a vedere i video sul tubo sarai punto a capo
[11:43] <Guest23866> immagginavo pero la lentezza avviene anche quando non attivo i video
[11:43] <Guest23866> pero flash player e iintegrato in chrome
[11:44] <Carlin0> integrato o no poco cambia eh
[11:44] <Guest23866> ecco pero ho sentitto di browser piu leggeri
[11:45] <Guest23866> quindi bobbiamo aumentare ram
[11:45] <Guest23866> non ce modo
[11:46] <Carlin0> immagino anche la cpu sia scarsina ...
[11:46] <Guest23866> in effetti i video avi si vedono bene ma se scarico mp4
[11:46] <Carlin0> che cpu hai ?
[11:46] <Guest23866> pensavo fosse lascheda video vekkia
[11:46] <Guest23866> non ricordo un asrock
[11:46] <Guest23866> del 2007
[11:46] <Guest23866> la scheda madre
[11:47] <ExPBoy> eh
[11:47] <Guest23866> devo cambiare scheda madre
[11:47] <Guest23866> ormai ha 10 anni
[11:48] <Guest23866> cmq potrei provare un browser piu leggero nel frattempo dall ubuntu software center??
[11:48] <ExPBoy> Guest23866, si ma flash scordatelo
[11:48] <Guest23866> immagginavo
[11:49] <ExPBoy> eh allora inutile...menarla
[11:49] <ExPBoy> :)
[11:49] <Carlin0> Guest23866, dai questi 2 comandi
[11:49] <Guest23866> pero se vado su una chat come questa mi va lento pure qui
[11:49] <Carlin0> sudo apt install pastebinit
[11:49] <Carlin0> cat /proc/cpuinfo |pastebinit
[11:49] <Carlin0> il 2° da un link in risposta pastacelo qui
[11:50] <Guest23866> ok
[11:50] <Guest23866> provo
[11:51] <Guest23866> devo rientrare con ubuntu sono bannato dal canale
[11:51] <Guest23866> da un anno
[11:52] <Carlin0> si vede che hai fatto il bravo
[11:52] <Guest23866> no no sono stato io e stato mio nipote
[11:52] <Guest23866> perche un ban di un anno??
[11:52] <Guest23866> ed io che ico a tuti e pubblicizzo ubuntu
[11:52] <gigirock> perche' non metti gli accenti
[11:53] <Carlin0> chiedilo agli op ...
[11:53] <Guest23866> su ubuntu ops
[11:53] <Guest23866> mi dicono che rmane il ban mionipote 13 anni
[11:53] <Guest23866> ha fatto un macello
[11:53] <Guest23866> non potete toglierlo
[11:53] <Guest23866> ha minacciato insultato tutti
[11:53] <Guest23866> che gli facevo
[11:54] <Guest23866> ha detto zio pensavo era ciaoamigos
[11:54] <Carlin0> mi sa che hai anche problemi con l'italiano
[11:54] <Guest23866> no scrivo di corsa
[11:55] <Carlin0> non ci interessa la storia della tua vita se vuoi dare sti 2 comandi altrimenti devo andarmene
[11:55] <Guest23866> faccio parte del gruppo face book accademia della crusca e sono laureato in scienze dell informatica
[11:55] <Guest23866> carlino la cpu e vekkia
[11:55] <Guest23866> vecchia pardon
[11:56] <ExPBoy> Guest23866, e quindi?
[11:57] <Guest23866> quindi il comando mi dira che e vecchia
[11:57] <Guest23866> io ho chiesto solo un altro browser
[11:57] <Carlin0> quindi almeno la differenza tra e congiunzione e è verbo essere dovresti saperla
[11:57] <Guest23866> ovvio
[11:57] <Carlin0> vabbè vai avanti da solo
[11:57] <ExPBoy> bene tempo perso
[11:57] <Guest23866> are ere iere l acca va adormire
[11:57] <Guest23866> ire
[11:57] <ExPBoy> !troll
[11:57] <ubot-it> Trollare è un comportamento considerato fastidioso dagli altri utenti del canale. Questo include andare offtopic o chiedere la stessa cosa piu volte ottenendo risposte ma non considerarle, e questi non sono i soli comportamenti che possono essere considerati da troll. Per favore leggi /msg ubot-it irc - se questo riguarda te, potresti ritrovarti fuori dal canale.
[11:58] <Guest23866> scusate
[11:59] <Guest23866> provero con firefox
[11:59] <Guest23866> grazie a tutti
[11:59] <Guest23866> per il comando della cpu
[12:32] <Guest26221> salve. sulla mia precedente versione di ubuntu avevo installato l'applicazione vulgry, per scaricare musica da you tube ora non la ritrovo più su ubuntu softw. center esiste qualcosa di analogo? grazie
[12:35] <krabador> !chat | Guest26221
[12:35] <ubot-it> Guest26221: per qualsiasi argomento non inerente strettamente il supporto a ubuntu, /join #ubuntu-it-chat
[12:41] <Savior> Ciao, scusatemi, sono sempre io (questa volta con lo stesso nick), finalmente sono riuscito ad installare Ubuntu 14.04.2 lts ma non funziona nè il wifi nè l'ethernet
[12:41] <Savior> Ho controllato l'md5 ed è corretto
[12:41] <krabador> Savior: hai chipset AMD?
[12:42] <Savior> sì
[12:42] <krabador> va in bios, disabilita "iommu"
[12:43] <krabador> ricarica
[12:45] <Savior> IOMMU Controller è su disabled
[12:52] <krabador> quante altre voci hai a riguardo ?
[12:53] <Savior> Solo quella su iommu
[12:55] <Savior> Se serve, la mobo è "gigabyte 970A-UD3P"
[12:55] <krabador> ok , assicurati di avere l'ultima versione di BIOS, carica , manda sudo lshw -C network
[12:55] <krabador> posta il risultato qui tramite pastebin
[12:56] <krabador> contemporaneamente scarica 15.04, a precauzione , da provare in live
[12:57] <krabador> tra ottobre 2013 e l'uscita di 14.04 ci sono stati problemi di supporto con quei chipset
[12:57] <Savior> non riesco a postare dato che non ho internet
[12:57] <krabador> che possono essere stati successivamente. corretti
[12:57] <Savior> va bene una foto?
[12:57] <krabador> Savior: puoi fare un file di testo da portare in un PC connesso
[12:57] <krabador> e fare pastebib
[12:58] <krabador> foto va bene se chiara
[12:58] <Savior> Ok
[13:03] <Savior> https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/hC5aXWVGTKqgxdQlRIdm
[13:03] <Savior> Ecco
[13:04] <riccardo86> Salve, ho un grosso problema: sto scrivendo un documento importante con libroffice. Nell'atto di installare un nuovo font che non appariva tra quelli di default, tutto ciò che avevo scritto in precedenza è sparito: appare solo una parte delle tante pagine che avevo scritto. Qualcuno mi sa dire cos'è successo e come posso risolvere? grazie
[13:14] <krabador> Savior: le periferiche sono riconosciute
[13:14] <Savior> Quindi?
[13:16] <krabador> hai un cavo LAN a disposizione ?
[13:18] <krabador> Savior: la wireless ha problemi noti. http://askubuntu.com/a/521367
[13:18] <devuser> salve ho preso dell xps 13 dev edition con Ubuntu. Per alcune info devo andare in chat o posso chiedere qui
[13:18] <devuser> come per esempio ho il touchpad invertito. tasto sinistro fa il tasto destro e viceversa
[13:19] <Savior> No, non ho un cavo LANù
[13:20] <Savior> Senza ù
[13:20] <Savior> per il wirless, ora provo
[13:20] <krabador> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1268833
[14:06] <gigirock> Savior, prima di tutto vai su support.dell.it e cerca i driver/bios aggiornati
[14:08] <gigirock> Savior, lascia perdere ho invertito con devuser
[14:18] <Savior> Prima kabrador mi ha linkato questo, come posso installarlo se non ho internet?
[14:19] <Savior> http://askubuntu.com/questions/471208/realtek-wireless-adapter-issues-rtl8192ce-and-rtl8192cu/521367#521367
[14:24] <cybernova> Savior, se non riesci a collegarti dal pc in questione, da un altro scarica questo: https://github.com/lwfinger/rtlwifi_new/archive/master.zip lo scompatti e lo metti nel pc in questione. Una volta fatto dimmelo
[14:26] <Savior> Quindi devo mettere quel pacchetto nel pc senza internet?
[14:26] <cybernova> Savior, si
[14:26] <Savior> Ok
[14:27] <Savior> messo
[14:28] <cybernova> Savior, ok ora apri un terminale e portati dentro alla cartella
[14:29] <Savior> ok
[14:29] <Savior> fatto
[14:30] <cybernova> Savior, vediamo prima una cosa: dpkg -l | egrep '(build-essential|linux-headers-generic)'
[14:30] <cybernova> !paste | Savior
[14:30] <ubot-it> Savior: http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[14:30] <Savior> faccio quel comando nello stesso terminale?
[14:30] <cybernova> Savior, si e poi segui le istruzioni sopra
[14:31] <Savior> Quali istruzioni?
Savior: http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[14:31] <Savior> ok
[14:33] <cybernova> Savior, sei riuscito?
[14:34] <Savior> sto facendo
[14:35] <Savior> Non riesco a mettere il paste dato che non ho internet :/
[14:36] <cybernova> Savior, hai ragione, ha dato qualcosa in output però?
[14:37] <Savior> Sì, "nessun dato corrispondente ad egrep" e subito sotto "nessun dato corrispondente a nomediquelpacchetto"
[14:37] <Savior> Scusami, non nessun dato
[14:37] <Savior> Nessun pacchetto
[14:39] <cybernova> Savior, l'hai dato bene il comando? ho i miei dubbi
[14:40] <Savior> Copiato ed incollato
[14:40] <cybernova> Savior, copiato ed incollato senza internet?
[14:40] <Savior> File txt su chiavetta
[14:41] <cybernova> Savior, allora fai lo stesso procedimento all'inverso, incollami qui il comando che hai dato
[14:41] <Savior> Certo, un attimo
[14:42] <Savior> dpkg -l | egrep '(build-essential|linux-headers-generic)'
[14:43] <cybernova> Savior, va bhe, prova a dare: sudo make install
[14:44] <Savior> Aspetta, errore mio.. il txt fatto da windows elimina quelle sbarre
[14:44] <Savior> un secondo, ora rimedio e ti dico il risultato
[14:51] <Savior> ii linux-headers-generic-lts-utopic 3.16.0.30.23
[14:51] <Savior> amd64 generic linux kernel shaders
[14:52] <cybernova> Savior, finito?
[14:52] <Savior> ora ho dato sudo make install e sta installando i pacchetti
[14:52] <Savior> sì
[14:53] <cybernova> Savior, quando ha finito, incolla le ultime righe su pastebin invece che qui in canale
[14:53] <Savior> ora ha finito di installare
[14:53] <Savior> righe dell'installazione?
[14:54] <cybernova> Savior, le ultime righe dell'output si
[14:57] <Savior> la chiavetta da' problemi, chiede di formattare ogni volta che ricollego a windows
[14:57] <Savior> e di conseguenza perdo le ultime righe incollate prima
[14:58] <Savior> comunque dice installing rtlwifi success
[14:59] <cybernova> Savior, se ha avuto successo allora, mi fido di te, puoi riavviare il pc sul quale non funziona internet per vedere se funziona
[15:02] <Savior> Ok, vado
[15:04] <Savior> Niente, come prima
[15:04] <Savior> C'è l'animazione del wifi ma dopo un po' spunta un popup "disconnected - you are now offline"
[15:07] <cybernova> Savior, hai impostato correttamente la password del wifi?
[15:09] <Savior> sì
[15:09] <Savior> nemmeno l'ethernet funziona
[15:09] <Savior> stesso problema
[15:11] <Carlin0> ma io ieri te lo dissi che se non andava da live non sarebbe andato manco dopo installato
[15:11] <Carlin0> eri tu no ?
[15:11] <Savior> sì, io ti dissi che l'md5 era uguale
[15:13] <Carlin0> l'ethernet da live deve andare se non va c'è qualche problema ...
[15:13] <Savior> possibili soluzioni?
[15:14] <Savior> alcuni giorni prima l'ethernet su windows andava bene
[15:14] <Savior> quindi non è rotta la porta/cavo
[15:22] <Savior> up
[15:40] <TOM54> ciao
[15:41] <TOM54> c'è qualcuno online?
[15:41] <jester-> qualcuno | TOM54
[15:41] <TOM54> haha
[15:41] <jester-> !qualcuno | TOM54
[15:41] <ubot-it> TOM54: la maggior parte delle prime domande fatte in questo canale è del tipo «qualcuno puo' aiutarmi/qualcuno ha tempo/qualcuno usa...?». Fate la vostra domanda tecnica e se qualcuno sa, rispondera'
[15:42] <TOM54> ma questa è una chat o un centro per parlare con esperti?
[15:42] <jester-> punto di assistenza su sitemi operativi linux ubuntu
[15:42] <TOM54> veramente? io pensavo fosse un chat liera xd
[15:43] <TOM54> no dai,stai scherzando?????
[15:43] <jester-> !chat
[15:43] <ubot-it> per qualsiasi argomento non inerente strettamente il supporto a ubuntu, /join #ubuntu-it-chat
[15:44] <Savior> Qualcuno può aiutarmi?
[15:44] <TOM54> hey,quindi vorresti dirmi che questa è una chat con eserti e basta???????
[15:44] <TOM54> io
[15:45] <jester-> !qualcuno | Savior
[15:45] <ubot-it> Savior: la maggior parte delle prime domande fatte in questo canale è del tipo «qualcuno puo' aiutarmi/qualcuno ha tempo/qualcuno usa...?». Fate la vostra domanda tecnica e se qualcuno sa, rispondera'
[15:45] <TOM54> obot hai rotto un po
[15:45] <Savior> Ho scritto la mia domanda prima
[15:45] <TOM54> riscrivila
[15:45] <jester-> Savior: sono entrato dopo
[15:45] <TOM54> idem
[15:46] <TOM54> hai problemi con ubuntu software center scommetto
[15:47] <stefy90> ciao a tutti, dovrei installare adobe flash player su firefox per ubuntu 14.4 lts. ho scaricato il file d'installazione però non so quale dei 3 pacchetti devo installare.
[15:47] <TOM54> istalla il 1
[15:47] <jester-> stefy90: installa flashplugin-installer
[15:47] <TOM54> il 2 è buggato e il 3 crasha a quanto mi dicono
[15:48] <jester-> stefy90: apri un terminale
[15:48] <jester-> stefy90: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[15:50] <stefy90> ok, ho digitato.
[15:52] <jester-> stefy90: dato enter e messo la pass utente?
[15:53] <stefy90> si ho fatto tutto. ha eseguito tutti i passi e poi mi ha detto che flash plugin è installato. ho provato ad aprire 'applicazione che me lo richiedeva ma non lo trova ancora.
[15:53] <jester-> stefy90: chiui e riapri ff
[15:54] <jester-> chiudi
[15:54] <stefy90> devo riavviare il pc?
[15:54] <jester-> no solo firefox
[15:54] <stefy90> ok grazie.
[15:56] <Savior> jester, allora
[15:56] <Savior> Non funziona nè il wifi nè l'ethernet
[15:56] <stefy90> grazie jester, funziona tutto!!
[15:57] <jester-> Savior: schede tipo?
[15:57] <Savior> Ethernet è quella della mobo
[15:57] <Savior> wifi non ricordo, attimo
[15:57] <jester-> si ma che tipo di chipset
[15:57] <Savior> amd64
[15:57] <jester-> lspci
[15:57] <Savior> ?
[15:57] <jester-> lspci nel terminale
[15:59] <Savior> Digito?
[15:59] <Savior> Eh, ma come ti incollo senza internet?
[16:00] <jester-> guarda etehert e wif iche roba è
[16:00] <stefy90> come non detto jester, mi richiede ancora la versione 11.3.0 di adobe flash player.
[16:01] <jester-> stefy90: che per linux non esiste , devi scaricare chrome dal sito google, il . deb stable e instrallarlo che usa il falsh ultima versione, previa eventuale installazione di chrome intallato da repo
[16:01] <Savior> Entrambi raeltek
[16:02] <jester-> Savior: versione ubuntu?
[16:02] <Savior> 14 04 2 lts
[16:02] <jester-> Savior: dai ifconfig e controlla se c'è eth0
[16:03] <Savior> ok
[16:03] <Savior> sì
[16:03] <jester-> stefy90: rettifico, devi disinstallare chrome da repo se installato
[16:04] <jester-> Savior: ping libero.it
[16:05] <stefy90> grazie, ma non ho alcuna versione di chrome installata, adesso sto facendo il download di chrome .deb stable e poi provo ad installarlo.
[16:05] <jester-> stefy90: logico che poi devi usare cromo
[16:06] <Savior> unknown host
[16:08] <jester-> salluc69: iwconfig c'è wlan0?
[16:08] <Savior> In ifconfig?
[16:09] <Savior> ah no, iwconfig
[16:09] <Savior> comunque sì, c'è
[16:10] <jester-> Savior: quindi dovrebbe andare tutto, hai pacioccato qualcosa ?
[16:10] <webcam> ciao a tutti.. volevo chiedere perche non riesco a cliccare il tasto "consenti" quando apro la schermata di una chat
[16:11] <jester-> !chat | webcam
[16:11] <ubot-it> webcam: per qualsiasi argomento non inerente strettamente il supporto a ubuntu, /join #ubuntu-it-chat
[16:11] <Savior> no jester
[16:11] <Savior> ho installato ubuntu oggi stesso
[16:12] <jester-> Savior: vai in configurazione rete
[16:12] <Savior> ci sono
[16:14] <jester-> Savior: vai in connessione wifi modifica
[16:15] <jester-> ipv4
[16:15] <Savior> con?
[16:16] <jester-> Savior: in connessone wifi
[16:16] <jester-> Savior: vai in modifica e poi in ipv4
[16:16] <mikeit> ciao a tutti
[16:17] <Savior> si, ci sono
[16:17] <Savior> ciao :)
[16:19] <jester-> Savior: seleziona dhcp solo indirizzi
[16:19] <jester-> Savior: in server dns metti: 8.8.8.8,8.8.4.4
[16:20] <Savior> ah bastava dire metti i dns google lol
[16:20] <Savior> ora faccio
[16:21] <jester-> ho scritto meno
[16:22] <jester-> Savior: quindi prova a connettere la wifi
[16:22] <Savior> niente da fare
[16:23] <jester-> Savior: ti chiede la pass?
[16:24] <Savior> sì
[16:25] <jester-> Savior: e dandola cosa succede?
[16:25] <Savior> c'è l'animazione del wifi con le tacche che si muovono e poi esce un popup a destra con scritto "disconnected"
[16:25] <jester-> Savior: fai uguale nella connessione cavo
[16:26] <Savior> ok
[16:26] <jester-> se non connette o installazoine farlocca o schede a bottane
[16:26] <jester-> Savior: da live funzano?
[16:26] <jester-> Savior: controlla nel bios se sono abilitate
[16:27] <Savior> si, tutto abilitato e nemmeno nella live funzionavano
[16:27] <Savior> l'md5 è corretto
[16:28] <jester-> Savior: prova la live della 14.10
[16:29] <jester-> è quella che va meglio e pure la 15.04
[16:29] <jester-> se non vanno da live facile che siano malate gravi
[16:29] <jester-> realtek va di serie
[16:30] <Savior> ma alcuni giorni fa su windows andavano da dio
[16:30] <Savior> uff
[16:30] <jester-> Savior: winzoz lo hai segato?
[16:31] <jester-> Savior: dai rfkill list
[16:31] <Savior> y
[16:31] <Savior> ora vado
[16:32] <Savior> soft blocked : yest
[16:32] <Savior> hard blocked: no
[16:32] <Savior> senza "t"
[16:32] <jester-> Savior: sudo rfkill unblock all
[16:33] <Savior> ora?
[16:34] <jester-> prova la wifi
[16:34] <Savior> k
[16:35] <Savior> niente
[16:36] <jester-> Savior: rfkill list
[16:36] <jester-> ancora bloccata?
[16:36] <Savior> entrambi su no
[16:36] <jester-> metti la pass e si sconnette?
[16:36] <Savior> ora la pw non la chiede
[16:36] <Savior> cerca di connettersi e sconnette
[16:37] <jester-> Savior: la wifi è tua o del vicino
[16:37] <Savior> mia
[16:37] <jester-> wpa2?
[16:37] <jester-> con pass?
[16:37] <Savior> controllo
[16:38] <Savior> wpa psk
[16:38] <jester-> Savior: prova a togliere la protezione giusto per prova
[16:38] <Savior> ok
[16:42] <Savior> niente
[16:42] <jester-> Savior: ip router?
[16:49] <Savior> Rieccomi, ero crashato
[16:49] <Savior> jester, che ip?
[16:49] <jester-> Savior: ip router?
[16:50] <Savior> l'ip pubblico o cosa?
[16:50] <jester-> ip del router, quello che usi per entrare
[16:51] <jester-> sei entrato a pacioccare le wifi prima
[16:52] <Savior> ah
[16:52] <Savior> 192.168.0.1
[16:52] <jester-> Savior: rivai in modifica rete
[16:52] <jester-> Savior: sempre ipvr e setta manuale
[16:53] <Savior> ok
[16:53] <jester-> 192.168.0,10 mask 255.255.255.0 gateway 192.168.0.1
[16:53] <jester-> dns i gogol
[16:55] <Savior> netmask supporta 2 caratteri
[16:55] <jester-> ma va
[16:55] <jester-> se clicchi la mette da solo
[16:55] <Savior> ah lol
[16:56] <jester-> ma comunque è 255.255.255.0
[16:56] <Savior> ok+
[16:56] <jester-> dopo aver messo il gw dai enter o non lo prende
[16:56] <Savior> addres .10 quindi?
[16:56] <Savior> ok
[16:56] <jester-> si
[16:57] <jester-> che se hai altro attaccato in dhcp fa casino
[16:57] <jester-> Savior: lo stesso nella cavo
[16:57] <Savior> niente
[16:58] <Savior> che palle
[16:58] <jester-> prova live di versioni superiori se non da mando con ip fisso la vedo male
[16:58] <jester-> Savior: ifconfig vedi indirizzo assegnato?
[16:59] <jester-> o iwconfig se wifi
[16:59] <jester-> Savior: hai staccato il cavo eth?
[16:59] <Savior> si
[17:00] <Savior> dove dovrebbe stare l'indirizzo assegnato?
[17:00] <jester-> rfkill list tutto no?
[17:00] <jester-> Savior: indirizzo inet:192.168.0.4 Bcast:192.168.0.255 Maschera:255.255.255.0
[17:00] <jester-> li in iwconfig
[17:00] <jester-> o in ifconfig
[17:01] <Savior> tutto no in rfkill+
[17:01] <Savior> no, non esce
[17:01] <jester-> Savior: cat /etc/network/interfaces cosa vedi
[17:02] <jester-> Savior: auto lo
[17:02] <jester-> iface lo inet loopback
[17:02] <jester-> e non altro?
[17:03] <Savior> no
[17:03] <Savior> solo quello
[17:03] <Savior> http://askubuntu.com/questions/500310/wifi-drops-and-reconnects-with-ubuntu-14-04-realtek-rtl8188?rq=1
[17:03] <jester-> Savior: è tutto a posto
[17:03] <Savior> provo a seguire questa?
[17:04] <jester-> Savior: sudo iwlist wlan0 scan
[17:06] <Savior> interface does not support scanning
[17:06] <jester-> Savior: prova a seguire la guida ask che non costa niente
[17:07] <Savior> k
[17:07] <LLLorenzzz> Buonasera a tutti
[17:09] <LLLorenzzz> Appena installato la Ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[17:10] <LLLorenzzz> Si è spento il wifi
[17:11] <jester-> LLLorenzzz: nel senso che andava e poi si è spento?
[17:12] <LLLorenzzz> si al primo avvio di ubuntu
[17:12] <jester-> LLLorenzzz: cosa ha fatto al primo riavvio
[17:13] <LLLorenzzz> non riesco a riattivare lo switch
[17:13] <LLLorenzzz> tutto ok solo è scomparsa la connessione
[17:14] <mikeit> nessuno conosce il modo di disabilitare l'ipv6 router solicitation
[17:14] <mikeit> per caso?
[17:14] <jester-> LLLorenzzz: sii piu chiaro
[17:15] <jester-> cosa intendi per switch
[17:15] <LLLorenzzz> la levetta per attivare il wifi del PC non lampeggia piùil led
[17:16] <LLLorenzzz> e non vedo la connessione nelle connessioni
[17:16] <jester-> mikeit: di default non mi pare sia abilitato
[17:16] <jester-> LLLorenzzz: apri un terminale
[17:16] <LLLorenzzz> si
[17:16] <jester-> LLLorenzzz: rfkill list
[17:16] <jester-> che qualche yes?
[17:17] <LLLorenzzz> no
[17:17] <jester-> LLLorenzzz: tutti no?
[17:17] <LLLorenzzz> si
[17:17] <jester-> LLLorenzzz: iwconfig
[17:17] <jester-> c'è wlan0?
[17:18] <LLLorenzzz> no
[17:18] <mikeit> jester-, si è abilitato
[17:18] <jester-> mikeit: guarda in modifica reti
[17:18] <jester-> LLLorenzzz: sei collegato col cavo o altro dispositivo
[17:19] <LLLorenzzz> con cavo di rete
[17:19] <jester-> LLLorenzzz: allora dai: lspci | grep -i network e metti risposta nel pastebin
[17:20] <jester-> !paste | LLLorenzzz
[17:20] <ubot-it> LLLorenzzz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[17:20] <mikeit> jester-, no no è qualcosa in /proc/sys/net/ipv6/ ecc o installando il daemon radvd
[17:20] <jester-> mikeit: non sono pratico di ipv6
[17:20] <mikeit> ok
[17:22] <LLLorenzzz> fatto scusa ma è la prima volta qui
[17:22] <Savior> ancora niente
[17:22] <jester-> Savior: prova 15.04 in live
[17:22] <Savior> che palle, altre soluzioni?
[17:22] <Savior> OK
[17:22] <Savior> caps
[17:22] <gigirock> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11800214/ aiuuuuto
[17:23] <LLLorenzzz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11800211/
[17:23] <jester-> gigirock: eh crazy è a mignotte da qualche giorno cambia
[17:24] <jester-> LLLorenzzz: broadcom serve firm e forse driver
[17:25] <jester-> LLLorenzzz: non hai ancora installato niente per la wifi vero?
[17:25] <LLLorenzzz> no
[17:25] <jester-> LLLorenzzz: sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source
[17:27] <LLLorenzzz> sta lavorando
[17:28] <LLLorenzzz> fatto
[17:28] <LLLorenzzz> provo a riattivare?
[17:28] <jester-> LLLorenzzz: sudo modprobe wl
[17:28] <jester-> LLLorenzzz: iwconfig
[17:29] <LLLorenzzz> ancora tutto no
[17:29] <jester-> LLLorenzzz: riavvia
[17:29] <LLLorenzzz> ok
[17:35] <LLLorenzzz> jester: ancora niente
[17:35] <jester-> LLLorenzzz: iwconfig
[17:36] <LLLorenzzz> tutto no
[17:36] <jester-> LLLorenzzz: sudo dpkg --purge bcmwl-kernel-source
[17:37] <jester-> LLLorenzzz: sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer
[17:40] <LLLorenzzz> fatto
[17:40] <LLLorenzzz> mi da ancora tutti no
[17:41] <jester-> LLLorenzzz: rfkill list
[17:41] <LLLorenzzz> soft blocked yes
[17:41] <LLLorenzzz> hard blocked no
[17:42] <jester-> LLLorenzzz: non pigiare piu il tasto, sudo rfkill unblock all
[17:42] <LLLorenzzz> ok
[17:44] <LLLorenzzz> fatto adesso?
[17:44] <jester-> iwconfig
[17:45] <LLLorenzzz> ancora tutto no
[17:45] <jester-> LLLorenzzz: sudo rmmod b43
[17:45] <jester-> LLLorenzzz: sudo moprobe b43
[17:46] <jester-> LLLorenzzz: lspci | grep -i ethernet
[17:47] <LLLorenzzz> al primo mi dice rmmod: ERROR: Module b43 is not currently loaded
[17:48] <jester-> LLLorenzzz: sudo moprobe b43
[17:48] <jester-> LLLorenzzz: sudo modprobe b43
[17:48] <LLLorenzzz> sudo: moprobe: command not found
[17:48] <jester-> LLLorenzzz: sudo modprobe b43
[17:49] <LLLorenzzz> si si ma non risponde ora
[17:49] <jester-> lo ha caricato
[17:49] <jester-> iwconfig
[17:51] <LLLorenzzz> lspci | grep -i ethernet lo devo dare ancora vado?
[17:51] <jester-> iwconfig c'è wlan0?
[17:51] <LLLorenzzz> non mi risponde più
[17:52] <LLLorenzzz> non mi da neanche più lorenz@lorenz-Extensa-5620:~$
[17:52] <jester-> LLLorenzzz: riavvia
[17:53] <LLLorenzzz> There is still a process running in this terminal. Closing the terminal will kill it.
[17:53] <LLLorenzzz> riavvio comunque?
[17:53] <jester-> sisi riavvia
[18:00] <LLLorenzzz> jester> ora va ti devo una birra grazie
[18:00] <gigirock> LLLorenzzz, meglio lo sprizz
[18:01] <LLLorenzzz> ah ah in casa ho sol del lambrusco adesso
[18:02] <gigirock> gnocco fritto ?
[18:02] <jester-> LLLorenzzz :D
[18:02] <LLLorenzzz> chiamo mia Nonna
[18:02] <jester-> se over 60 lasa perd va
[18:02] <jester-> lol
[18:03] <gigirock> LLLorenzzz, 6 di Modena ?
[18:03] <LLLorenzzz> grazie millesono appena entrato in linux e penso propio di non volerci uscire:))
[18:03] <LLLorenzzz> si
[18:03] <LLLorenzzz> Carpi
[18:05] <LLLorenzzz> gigirock : ma il gruppo linux di Modena li conosci?
[18:07] <gigirock> no ho i parenti a Pavullo
[18:09] <LLLorenzzz> ottimo beh speriam di beccarci un giorno per gnocco tigelle e lambrusco!!
[19:21] <Dario85> buonasera a tutti
[19:21] <Dario85> ho bisogno di una mano per disinstallare skype dal pc
[19:21] <Dario85> ho appena installato ubuntu
[19:21] <Dario85> e non sono molto pratico
[19:22] <Dario85> cliccando sul dash mi compare l'icona di skype id il software gira bene e si collega
[19:22] <Dario85> ma ora vorrei rimuoverlo ma non compare tra l'elenco delle applicazioni installate
[19:22] <Dario85> come devo fare??
[19:23] <Dario85> ho provato anche dal terminal ma mi dice sempre comando non trovato
[19:23] <Dario85> c'è qualcuno che può darmi una mano??
[19:24] <Dario85> c'è nessuno???
[19:25] <Dario85> ragazzi
[19:25] <Dario85> davvero nessuno mi può dare una mano??
[19:30] <Dario85> c'è nessuno per favore
[19:30] <Dario85> ???
[19:34] <cybernova> Dario85, da terminale dai: sudo apt-get purge skype
[19:35] <Guest61750> Ciao a tutti, ho problemi con il settaggio della rete wifi eduroam, conoscete?
[19:37] <jacopo> Ciao a tutti! Dovrei installare dei drivers per far ri conoscere al computer un dispositivo usb esterno. Il primo driver è un file .tar.gz (che non saprei come installare), il secondo driver lo si scarica da qui http://www.ftdichip.com/Drivers/VCP.htm ma non saprei se scaricare il file Linux 2.6.x o Linux 3.x.x Uso Xubuntu 15.04
[19:37] <Guest61750> Per quello che ho potuto capire il problema sta nel certificato
[19:39] <Dario85> cybernova ho provato ma mi dice che il comando non è valido
[19:39] <Dario85> cybernova adesso ho installato i synaptic per la gestione dei pacchetti e dovrei essere riuscito a disinstallarlo
[19:40] <cybernova> Dario85, comando non è valido non è possibile, sicuramente sbagli qualcosa
[19:42] <Dario85> cybernova scusami ma adesso ho un altro problema
[19:42] <Dario85> non mi fuziona la webcam
[19:42] <Dario85> credo che non ci siano proprio i driver installati
[19:42] <Dario85> come posso fare?
[19:43] <cybernova> Dario85, webcam esterna od interna?
[19:43] <Dario85> interna..è un laptop e728
[19:43] <Dario85> emachines
[19:43] <cybernova> Dario85, da terminale: lsusb
[19:43] <cybernova> !paste | Dario85
[19:43] <ubot-it> Dario85: http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[19:45] <Dario85> su terminale scrivo solo isusb?
[19:45] <cybernova> Dario85, cerca di riconoscere le l dalle i: lsusb
[19:46] <Dario85> si si scusami...fatto e adesso?
[19:46] <cybernova> !paste | Dario85
[19:46] <ubot-it> Dario85: http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[19:49] <Dario85> cybernova scusami ma leggo solo !paste ...
[19:50] <cybernova> Dario85, leggi sotto, copia l'output del comando che ti ho dato e segui le istruzioni
[19:51] <jacopo> Scusate come installo un driver .gz?
[19:52] <Dario85> cybernova scusami davvero ma non leggo nessun comando....mi sono appena registrate qui http://paste.ubuntu.com/ nn so se serve a qualcosa per leggere i tuoi messaggi
[19:52] <Dario85> scusa l'ignoranza ma sono un neofita di ubuntu
[19:53] <akis24> Dario85: 1 - incollare il testo 2 - indicare il nick, 3 - premere paste 4 - postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina su http://paste.ubuntu.com/ è cosi difficile '
[19:56] <Dario85> akis24 per me è difficile perchè vedo tutto questo per la prima volta...so che voi date per scontate un sacco di cose essendo molto più pratici di me, ma per me è come leggere per la prima volta in arabo quindi perdonami se non so ancora usare bene questi comandi
[20:00] <Dario85> cybernova posso disturbarti ancora?
[20:02] <cybernova> Dario85, è semplice: dai il comando lsusb, l'output che ti esce lo incolli in quel sito che ti ho dato, premi paste, copi l'indirizzo della pagina e la incolli qui in canale
[20:04] <Dario85> ok ci provo
[20:04] <Dario85> grazie
[20:04] <Dario85> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11801061/
[20:04] <Dario85> così?
[20:05] <jacopo> scusate ho estratto un file tar.gz in una cartella, poi ho aperto dalla cartella un terminale, poi se do ./configure pero' mi dice file o directory non esistente...cosa sbaglio?
[20:07] <akis24> jacopo: leggi qui http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/AmministrazioneSistema/InstallareProgrammi/DaSorgenti
[20:08] <Dario85> cybernova sei riuscito a leggere qualcosa?
[20:10] <cybernova> Dario85, no
[20:11] <Dario85> ho copiato quello che veniva fuori sul terminal,ho fatto ho messo il mio nome, ho fatto paste e ho copiato il link della pagina che si è aperta qua in chat...
[20:12] <Dario85> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11801061/plain/
[20:12] <Dario85> nemmeno con questo link??
[20:13] <akis24> Dario85: dagli il tempo di vedere ...
[20:14] <Dario85> akis24 era giusto per capire se ho fatto il procedimento corretto
[20:14] <akis24> certo Dario85 è corretto
[20:15] <Dario85> ok grazie
[20:15] <cybernova> Dario85, con quale programma non funziona?
[20:18] <Dario85> con cheese e sulle videochat che usano flash player...cheese mi dice che c'è stato un errore nella riproduzione del video...e sulle chat non mi da la possibilità di consentire la riproduzione audio/video
[20:19] <jacopo> akis24 ma se ho estratto il file comunque devo dare i comandi tar -jxvf nomepacchetto.tar.bz2? No perché su altre guide vedo che basta fae estrai qui e poi .configure
[20:20] <Dario85> io ho la versione 14.04 LTS se può esserti d'aiuto
[20:20] <akis24> jacopo: se hai estratto segui i passaggi successivi
[20:20] <akis24> jacopo: leggere il readme oppure install di solito è indicato come provedere
[20:20] <jacopo> ok, in sostanza sono ./configure
[20:20] <jacopo> make
[20:20] <jacopo> make install ma
[20:20] <akis24> procedere*
[20:21] <jacopo> os sorry
[20:21] <jacopo> ops sorry
[20:21] <cybernova> Dario85, essendo un po vecchiotta han tolto il supporto un bel po di tempo fa nel kernel
[20:22] <cybernova> Dario85, tieni conto che utilizzarla col browser con flash è sempre un problema anche per quelle supportate a volte
[20:23] <Alexiso> Ciao, mentre provo a installare ubuntu 15.04 da usb mi restituisce questo errore can't open /dev/sr0: no medium found
[20:23] <Dario85> cybernova quindi c'è qualche soluzione?
[20:25] <akis24> Alexiso: : sembra cercare il lettore cd come hai creato la usb ?
[20:25] <cybernova> Dario85, la soluzione sarebbe installare un kernel inferiore alla versione 3.2 ma è una cosa un po avanzata per uno alle prime armi come te e te lo sconsiglio
[20:25] <Dario85> cybernova ok ti ringrazio...sei stato molto gentile
[20:26] <cybernova> Dario85, prego figurati
[20:26] <Dario85> Buona serata a tutti
[20:29] <Alexiso> akis24 con rufus e anche unetbootin
[20:29] <akis24> Alexiso: specifica programma usato per creare la usb e sistema operativo da cui l'hai fatta
[20:30] <Alexiso> W8.1 con Rufus 2.2
[20:30] <akis24> Alexiso: controllato md5sum della .iso scaricata ?
[20:31] <Alexiso> No ora controllo
[20:31] <akis24> !usbwin | Alexiso usa questo
[20:31] <ubot-it> Alexiso usa questo: Scarica Universal USB Installer: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/ | Installalo su Windows e lancialo: lui si occuperà di trasferire l'immagine ISO su USB. Guida: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows | Opzionalmente questo programma può anche scaricare lui stesso l'immagine ISO
[20:31] <akis24> Alexiso: dopo aver controllato md5sum ovvio
[20:32] <akis24> Alexiso: hai bios uefi ?
[20:36] <Alexiso> No niente uefi è vecchiotto come pc
[20:37] <akis24> Alexiso: e hai messo winz8?
[20:39] <Alexiso> 8.1
[20:39] <Alexiso> è un acer aspire 5560
[20:40] <akis24> Alexiso: era solo per capire .. prosegui con le indicazioni che haiavuto
[20:41] <Alexiso> Si grazie
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2015-06-30-#ubuntu-es
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[11:29] <javistacruz> hola a todos
[11:30] <javistacruz> ¿alguien sabe cómo se cambia el navegador web por defecto? Tengo chrome y me gustaría poner firefox
[16:36] <simple_bot> Hola buenas tardes a todos
[18:58] <Optimus> Buenas tardes
[18:58] <Optimus> Saludos compañeros
[18:59] <linuxero> ei
[18:59] <linuxero> te recomiendo que entres a #ubuntu-es
[19:00] <linuxero> perdon #ubuntu-es-cafe
[19:00] <Optimus> ok, muchas gracias Linuxero
[19:00] <linuxero> ahi hablamos gente :)
[19:00] <linuxero> esto es para soporte de la distro ubuntu y derivadas oficiales
[19:01] <Optimus> ok, entiendo perfectamente. Muchas gracias por el dato.
[19:02] <linuxero> de donde eres?
[19:02] <Optimus> Venezuela
[20:29] <rasalghul> Hola
[20:30] <rasalghul> alguien me puede ayudar? no consigo hacer funcionar mi puerto ethernet en Ubuntu 14.04.02
[20:32] <linuxero> que ordenador es?
[20:32] <linuxero> te ha funcionado antes?
[20:32] <linuxero> con otras versiones de Ubuntu?
[20:35] <linuxero> rasalghul, ¿sigues ahi?
[20:37] <rasalghul> linuxero, si me ha funcionado antes con otras distros
[20:37] <rasalghul> linuxero, si, sigo aqui, es un ASUS ROG G75VW
[20:38] <rasalghul> todo funciona menos el ethernet
[20:38] <rasalghul> lo llegue a probar con chakra linux y si me funciono
[20:38] <rasalghul> pero ya tiene tiempo que no uso esa distro
[20:38] <rasalghul> puro ubuntu
[20:40] <rasalghul> mira, tengo aqui unos comandos con la informacion de mi chip
[20:40] <linuxero> de acuerdo
[20:40] <rasalghul> http://pastebin.com/z0Wwx0xz
[20:40] <linuxero> te estoy hablando por privado
[20:42] <linuxero> has probado otra distro de Ubuntu mas reciente para descartar un fallo fisico con el hardware del equipo=
[20:42] <linuxero> ?
[20:42] <linuxero> la ultima version estable es la 15.04
[20:42] <linuxero> acabo de ver, a traves del enlace, que el chip es un Qualcoom Atheros ¿cierto?
[20:43] <rasalghul> correcto
[20:43] <rasalghul> no eh probado otras distros
[20:43] <rasalghul> uso 14.04.02 porque no quiero estar actualizando
[20:44] <rasalghul> pero puedo hacer un live usb a ver que pasa
[20:44] <linuxero> desde el live USB con ubuntu 14.04.2 (sin instalar) funciona la interfaz cableada?
[20:47] <linuxero> ¿sigue ahi?
[20:48] <rasalghul> sigo aqui
[20:49] <rasalghul> necesito hacer la USB con esa imagen
[20:49] <rasalghul> y reiniciar mi computadora porque es de la que estamos charlando
[20:49] <rasalghul> voy a hacer la USB
[20:50] <rasalghul> cuando la tenga me voy a desconectar para probar si funciona
[20:50] <rasalghul> y vuelvo a entrar al canal
[20:54] <linuxero> de acuerdo
[20:54] <linuxero> despues de probarlo entra para si funciona correcatmente dejar la incidencia cerrada y si no seguir con su estudio
[20:54] <linuxero> de todas maneras no me voy a desconectar
[21:02] <rasalghul_> linuxero, ya hice la usb y ya la probe
[21:02] <rasalghul_> si funciona el ethernet con ubuntu 15.10
[21:03] <rasalghul_> digo 15.04 perdon
[21:03] <rasalghul_> sin embargo no prenden los foquitos del puerto ethernet
[21:18] <linuxero> rasalghul
[21:55] <linuxero> rasaghul
[21:55] <linuxero> has hecho eso ya?
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2015-06-30-#ubuntu-dk-moede
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[17:11] <ChristianArvai> nicky, mødet er aflyst. jeg har bannet sbc ;)
[17:12] <nicky> ChristianArvai, slår til igen *g*
[17:12] <nicky> Det var nu også et rent tilfælde at jeg kom forbi, så det gør nu ikke noget
[17:13] <ChristianArvai> jeg har også tid nok. jeg installere android-studio, og alle de repo tager mange timer at få ind
[17:14] <ChristianArvai> et tip . lad være med at flagge alle tilvalg af, med mindre at du har over 50 gb fri plads. jeg måtte starte forfra på en anden hdd, da jeg løb tør for plads
[17:23] <lars_t_h> ChristianArvai, alle tilvalg for alle versionsnr i Android fylder temmelig pænt op - det har jeg også prøvet.
[17:24] <lars_t_h> Det man behøver er kun nyeste, som er libs til Android mobiler der ikke er nyeste Android version.
[17:25] <lars_t_h> Min /home partition er på 188GB, så det var nemt at slette en undermappe i ~/bin
[17:31] <ChristianArvai> et tip . lad være med at flagge alle tilvalg af, med mindre at du har over 50 gb fri plads. jeg måtte starte forfra på en anden hdd, da jeg løb tør for plads
[17:38] <ChristianArvai> hov
[17:39] <ChristianArvai> så tror pokker at mine genvejdtaster ikke virkede, når at det stor herinde (op-pil+enter)
[17:56] <Zilvador> Godaften folk
[17:56] <lars_t_h> Godaften Blueeyez Zilvador Momsemor
[17:56] <Momsemor> Godaften :-)
[17:58] <lars_t_h> Hej readaktør team vil gerne diskutere forum-ban idag. Årsag er https://ubuntudanmark.dk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=20162
[17:58] <Momsemor> Ok...
[17:58] <ChristianArvai> aften venner
[17:59] <lars_t_h> ChristianArvai, er præsentant for redaktør team
[17:59] <ChristianArvai> skal vi lige lade klokken blove 20? ;)
[17:59] <ChristianArvai> nicky,
[17:59] <Zilvador> Spændende
[18:01] <ChristianArvai> Vi har desværre haft en del problemer med et medlem, som havde ret svært ved at holde forums regler. Det endte med et permanent Ban, og det er dette som ligger til grund for debatten
[18:02] <Momsemor> Har fulgt med og læst alle tråde...
[18:02] <ChristianArvai> Da det desværre ikke er klart ift forums regler, hvordan at advarsler og Bans skal gives, har vi lavet et udkast til dette:
[18:02] <ChristianArvai> * Overtrædelser af forums regler betyder at, teamet stemmer om en advarsel. Simpelt flertal.
[18:02] <ChristianArvai> * "Advar bruger" funktionen i php skal have en timeout på 12 mdr.
[18:02] <ChristianArvai> * Tre advarsler på 12 mdr betyder 14 dages Ban.
[18:02] <ChristianArvai> * Efter første Ban giver hvert enkelt efterfølgende advarsel øjeblikkeligt 14 dages yderligere Ban.
[18:02] <ChristianArvai> * Tre Bans inden for 12 mdr betyder at kontoen permenent lukkes.
[18:02] <ChristianArvai> * Grove overtrædelser af reglerne eller lovgivningen i Danmark, betyder stadigt øjeblikkeligt Ban.
[18:03] <ChristianArvai> Set over de sidste 2 år vil min personlige vurdering ikke være at, der med disse regler ikke ville være givet andre Bans end dem til mcrypto og Jakob77. De ville bare være kommet meget tidligere. Samt at soundpartner sandsynligvis også havde fået et enkelt Ban på 14 dage tilbage i 2009 (old story).
[18:04] <ChristianArvai> Vi er så ikke færdige med oplægget, da vi fik tralvt med denne sag. I teamet drøfter vi pt om det skal være 6 eller 12 mdr som udgangspunkt.
[18:05] <ChristianArvai> /
[18:05] <ChristianArvai> done
[18:05] <lars_t_h> Er forum-ban eneste emne idag?
[18:05] <ChristianArvai> pas. jeg er bare med :D
[18:05] <Zilvador> Spørgsmål
[18:06] <ChristianArvai> y
[18:06] <Zilvador> Hvad betyder "timeout på 12 måneder"?
[18:06] <Zilvador> Man kan kun bruge funktionen en gang for hver 12 måneder?
[18:06] <lars_t_h> Jeg kan se at mødedato og tid er sat af sbc
[18:07] <ChristianArvai> i forums system i PHP kan man sætte udløb for en advarsel. det vil sige at en advarsel automatisk slettes, når at der er gået et år
[18:07] <Zilvador> Hvad betyder det så, at en bruger får en advarsel?
[18:07] <Zilvador> Kan andre brugere se det nogen steder?
[18:07] <ChristianArvai> det er kun admins og redaktører som kan se dem
[18:07] <ChristianArvai> vi skal ikke hænge folk ud
[18:08] <Zilvador> Nej, helst ikke :). Jeg skal bare forstå det
[18:08] <Zilvador> Så er den eneste effekt af en advarsel, at adminer og redaktører er advaret mod brugeren?
[18:09] <ChristianArvai> at få en advarsel vil sådan set ikke få større betydning i første omgang. det er først hvis at en bruger får tre advarsler, inden for en periode på 12 mdr, at der sker noget. tre advarsler vil udløse 14 dages ban
[18:10] <Zilvador> Javel. Forstået
[18:10] <Zilvador> Så er det i hvert fald ikke en urimelig regel
[18:10] <ChristianArvai> takker. vi skal nok forbedre udkastet
[18:10] <lars_t_h> Zilvador, ChristianArvai Det skal vel pindes ud så "advarsel" og "ban" er klart defineret.
[18:11] <Momsemor> Klage muligheder?
[18:11] <Zilvador> Har vi regler for, hvad der kan lede til et ban?
[18:11] <ChristianArvai> lars_t_h, noteret
[18:12] <ChristianArvai> Momsemor, Som sådan henviste vi til bestyrelsen, da jakob ikke ville godkende teamets beslutning. vi har jo sådan set intet andet valg, hvis at folk føler at admins eller readaktører ikke holder regel
[18:13] <Zilvador> Mange forummer har en længere forklaring, når man laver en konto, om alle de ting, man ikke må. Dette er jo så konsekvensen, hvis man overtræder sådanne ting
[18:13] <lars_t_h> Zilvador, overtrædelse af CoC og at man ikke vil følge CoC selv om man bliver bedt om det f.eks.
[18:13] <Momsemor> Ok..
[18:13] <Zilvador> lars_t_h, jeg husker ikke så godt. Har forummet en CoC? :)
[18:13] <Momsemor> Det skal brugeren have, at vide ??
[18:14] <ChristianArvai> i kan lige se om vi skal bygge det ind i denne tråd : Information til alle brugere - Retningslinier i forum https://ubuntudanmark.dk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=16265
[18:14] <ChristianArvai> brainstorm
[18:14] <ChristianArvai> Zilvador, vi har ubuntus CoC
[18:15] <lars_t_h> Momsemor, jeg havde give redaktør teamet grønt lys til "ikke at fortage sig yderlige" og at advarseln imod scriptet var sin plads i sin tid. det er min professionelle mening at scriptet er af yderst dårlig kvalitet og derudover det man kalder spagetti-kode.
[18:16] <Zilvador> ChristianArvai, Aha. Det kan man jo også. Eneste ulempe er måske bare, at de er en smule uklare og formuleret mere som moral end som regelsæt
[18:16] <Zilvador> Men ellers er det jo et godt udgangspunkt :)
[18:16] <Momsemor> Jeg havde selv skrevet tak til Christian.... det er bare til kommende tilfælde
[18:17] <ChristianArvai> det er et interresant emne at debatere, for vi er også internt i teamet i tvivl om formuleringen
[18:19] <ChristianArvai> andre SP? :)
[18:20] <Zilvador> Super. Jeg ser, at Ubuntu DK også har sit eget opførselskodeks. Det vidste jeg ikke :)
[18:20] <Zilvador> Nej, jeg har ingen problemer med at acceptere jeres forslag. Det virker yderst rimeligt, så snart det måske uddybes lidt mere
[18:20] <lars_t_h> Zilvador, næste > næste etc. ved oprettelse D: Ja?
[18:21] <lars_t_h> Zilvador, man har vel nogle Windows vaner når man starter som grøn Ubuntu bruger hehe
[18:21] <Zilvador> lars_t_h, haha..måske. Jeg ser den slags ting som almindelig sund fornuft. Men det er nu også MANGE år siden, at jeg lavede min konto :)
[18:23] <ChristianArvai> vi skal nok uddybe det
[18:24] <lars_t_h> Jeg synes ikke at der er så meget mere at skrive om lige nu så jeg vil foreslå at bestyrelsen stemmer om at give redaktør tem mandat til at udarbejde en revideret forum bruger regler
[18:24] <lars_t_h> +1 er stemmer for et mandat
[18:24] <lars_t_h> +1
[18:24] <Momsemor> +1
[18:24] <Zilvador> +1
[18:24] <Blueeyez> +1
[18:25] <ChristianArvai> takker. vi sender det selvfølgeligt ud til gennemsyn
[18:25] <lars_t_h> De reviderede forum-regler skal vel så godkendes på næste møde
[18:25] <ChristianArvai> yes
[18:26] <Momsemor> Kan det nås her i ferietiden?
[18:26] <ChristianArvai> 2 mdr er nok bedre
[18:26] <lars_t_h> Jeg opreter lige en diskussionstråd i bestyrelsen om nye forum-regler, når mødet her er slut
[18:26] <Momsemor> 25. august?
[18:26] <ChristianArvai> ok med mig
[18:27] <Zilvador> Super :)
[18:27] <lars_t_h> Det næste møde bliver realistisk set nok i August måned
[18:27] <Momsemor> Det har du nok ret i ;-)
[18:27] <lars_t_h> 25. august kl 20 er ok med mig
[18:27] <Zilvador> :)
[18:27] <Zilvador> Hvordan går det i lokalforeningerne?
[18:28] <Momsemor> Som det plejer, lidt færre pga. ferie, men vi kører videre både i Favrskov og Randers
[18:28] <lars_t_h> Zilvador, msngler der ikke ret mange til det punkt?
[18:29] <Zilvador> lars_t_h, det ved jeg ikke. Jeg har ikke set en dagsorden :)
[18:29] <Blueeyez> I Esbjerg er jeg begyndt at deltage i noget der hedder Geeklabs -> geeklabs.dk og planlægger at få Ubuntu Esbjerg fusioneret. En af dem der står bag projektet kører selv Linux Ubuntu og han er in på det.. Håber det går, da der så er lokaler + fibernet..
[18:30] <lars_t_h> Det har jeg heller ikke
[18:30] <Momsemor> og Åby. Risskov holder pause til september /
[18:31] <lars_t_h> Spændende med Geek Labs. Jeg har fra Henning Wangerin at der er startet et makerspace op i Sønderborg.
[18:32] <lars_t_h> Hej Wangerin. Bestyrelsen har givet redaktør team et mandat til at udarbejde nye forum-regler (handler om advarsler og abn fra forum)
[18:32] <wangerin> G'aften - sjot at første kommentar når man logger ind omhandler en selv ;-)
[18:32] <lars_t_h> *s/abn/ban
[18:32] <Momsemor> Godaften...
[18:33] <lars_t_h> rettlse: edit lave etudlæg - som så skal godkendes
[18:34] <Zilvador> Blueeyez: spændende. Glæder mig til at høre om fusionen. Der har vist været tanker om at fusionere hacker-spaces og Ubuntu-foreninger, men der er vist mere blevet til samarbejder, da målgruppen tit er forskellig
[18:35] <lars_t_h> wangerin, vi var nået til lokal-afd. (selvom der ikke er en dagsorden), så vi vil godt høre hvordan det går ovre hos jer
[18:35] <Blueeyez> Ja Zilvador det er os udfordringen, men jeg accepterer alle distroer, men Ubuntu er jo os blot et udgangspunkt hvor man kan sige der er god brugervenlighed og det bare virker (Kender ingen distroer der kører lige så godt ud af boksen)
[18:36] <Blueeyez> og så hjælper det jo at en af dem der står for det os bruger Ubuntu :)
[18:37] <Zilvador> Fedt :). Hvis I kan få det til at virke uden at virke, ville det være fedt :)
[18:39] <Zilvador> Wangering, hvordan går det i Sønderborg?
[18:39] <Blueeyez> Bestemt :)
[18:39] <wangerin> Jeg sidder som nogle vil vide som formand i AlsLUG, hvor vi også meste arbejder medn Lubuntu - derfor samarbejder vi med Ubuntu DK, men der kommer genet andet forbi vores bord. Vi tager diverse distroer som de kommer, og tage der derfra. Men vi har selvfølgelig heller ikke Ubuntu i navnet. Det kan jo være en ligge fin forskel ;-) I øvrigt er maker-spacet i Sønderborg et par år gammelt. Det er bare ved at flytte til andre lokaler
[18:39] <wangerin> ;-)
[18:40] <wangerin> Vi har ikke haft så meget at lave de sidste par måneder - sekretæren har vist ikke har overskud til at lave så meget reklame som har tidligere gjorde, men det går stille og roligt derudaf.
[18:42] <Zilvador> wangerin, men det er både Unix group og makerspace?
[18:42] <wangerin> det er to helt forskellige enheder. Jeg er bare aktiv begge steder ;-)
[18:43] <Zilvador> Aha..forstået :)
[18:43] <Zilvador> Er der nogen, der har hørt fra Søren?
[18:44] <wangerin> Alslug holder til på bilbiloteket i Sønderborg hhv i Felsted (udenfor Aabenraa) og Green Makerspace har egene lokaler i Sønderborg. - og de snakker lidt om at linux er en god ting, så det skal nok blive til mere, men de er meget maksin-værksted end elektronik og computere ;-)
[18:45] <Zilvador> Ja, sådan plejer de nemlig at være. Derfor er målgrupperne tit heller ikke de samme :)
[18:47] <wangerin> Plejer og plejer. Hvis jeg kigger på OSAA i Aarhus kunne det mok bedre kombineres. Men ikke i Sønderborg, da de heller ikke har noget videre internetforbindelse på stedet. Så er det ikke så pokkers sjovt at lege med puter som dem :-/
[18:50] <Zilvador> Vi havde et i Aalborg også
[18:51] <Zilvador> Det blev bare mere til et samarbejde, hvor de to foreninger i sin tid fortsatte hver for sig, til dels i samme lokaler.
[18:52] <Zilvador> Er der flere ting, vi skal snakke om til mødet?
[18:54] <lars_t_h> Skal vi ikk´ lukke mødet nu (Lars "VejMand" T. Hansen skal med TogBus kl 05:48 imorgen tidlig)
[18:54] <Momsemor> Tror jeg ikke... blev vi enige om, at springe juli over?
[18:54] <lars_t_h> Jo, nsæte møde er 23. august 2015 kl 20:00 her på kanalen
[18:55] <Momsemor> Ok, så kan vi vist godt hæve mødet og ønske god sommer :-)
[18:55] * lars_t_h skriver i indlæg om nye forum-regler i bestyrelsens forum ASAP vi er færdig med mødet her
[18:55] <lars_t_h> god sommer til alle :)
[18:55] <Zilvador> God sommer, venner! :)
[18:55] <Zilvador> Super lars_t_h
[18:55] <Momsemor> 25. august
[18:55] <wangerin> Have a nice day
[18:57] <lars_t_h> Momsemor rigtigt den 25.
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2015-06-30-#juju
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[09:54] <dweaver> Trying to deploy an openstack bundle and deploying all management services to a controller node with LXC containers. I have multiple NICs on the physical node, but these are not exposed from the LXC containers, how do I use the charm options for multiple networks when deploying services to LXC? Anyone got any ideas?
[13:03] <stub> tvansteenburgh1: https://code.launchpad.net/~stub/charms/trusty/cassandra/spike/+merge/262608
[13:03] <tvansteenburgh> stub: excellent, thanks
[13:05] <stub> tvansteenburgh: There are no lxc results as yesterday's lxc run seems stuck - http://juju-ci.vapour.ws:8080/job/charm-bundle-test-lxc/77/
[13:08] <stub> I didn't add my own timeout to the Cassandra charms, but am surprised Amulet's hasn't kicked in (at this point, I think it will be hanging on add-unit)
[13:10] <tvansteenburgh> stub: ok, i'm just gonna kill it
[13:17] <stub> I need another word for service-framework actions, since that term is overloaded in Juju.
[13:20] <stub> Are the high level steps still called actions in services-framework-ng?
[13:21] <tvansteenburgh> cory_fu ^
[13:24] <cory_fu> The reactive pattern is significantly different than the services framework, and is more akin to an event (technically state) driven model. So you will instead simply have @when decorated blocks (handlers, perhaps), in much the same way that the Hook class provides a @hook decorator currently
[13:24] <stub> The timings on those Cassandra tests are all over the place. Single nodes tests take over an hour to provision a node, and then the 3 node tests go and complete in 30 mins.
[13:25] <stub> Hmm.... handlers.py...
[13:27] <stub> cory_fu: That sounds very similar to the @requires decorator put in charmhelpers/coordinator.py
[13:45] <cory_fu> stub: There does seem to be some overlap, but the reactive pattern is intended to be more general, in a way. It's intended to model charm behavior as responding to the evolving combined state of the charm and its various conversations with other services and the user. It's the implementation of the things we discussed in Malta.
[13:46] <cory_fu> The main idea is to extend the notion of hook events with the idea of semantically meaningful states that can be responded to in a similar way
[13:47] <stub> cory_fu: Yes, just thinking that it fits in well with what you are proposing. The locks granted by the leader would be events that trigger the @when decorated block.
[13:52] <cory_fu> Yeah. It does seem like we'll definitely want to converge them, though implementation-wise it's not coming to mind right away how best to do that. We weren't aware that this idea of locks was being worked on until just now, so we went our own direction with the states.
[13:53] <cory_fu> stub: Here's what docs I have so far for the reactive pattern, if you would mind taking a look:
[13:53] <cory_fu> Example charm usage: http://juju-relation-pgsql.readthedocs.org/en/latest/
[13:54] <cory_fu> API docs: http://reactive-charm-helpers.readthedocs.org/en/latest/api/charmhelpers.core.reactive.html
[13:54] <cory_fu> I'd like to know what you think, and how easy / difficult you think it would be to integrate.
[14:05] <hazmat> interesting
[14:05] <stub> charmhelpers.core.hookenv.atstart and atexit might be useful for booting up the reactor, or something similar.
[14:06] <hazmat> stub: also curious what you thought of https://github.com/compose/governor
[14:07] <stub> hazmat: I haven't gone over it, but want HA as part of my big rework of the PostgreSQL charm.
[14:08] <hazmat> stub: i'm currently rewriting it to work with consul, but i've poked around it seems pretty reasonable all standard wal stuff with 9.4 replica slots
[14:08] <stub> hazmat: I believe I could actually do HA in Juju now there is leadership, although I'm not sure on using hooks would make it reactive enough
[14:08] <hazmat> stub: although i'm trying to track the logical decoding work that 2ndquandrant is pushing (odr/bdr)
[14:09] <hazmat> stub: nothing wrong with depending on a secondary source of truth as a sidekick dep imo.
[14:09] <stub> hazmat: I just added logical replication for bottledwater, which ended up working fine.
[14:09] <hazmat> stub: the issue with notifications through juju is arbitrary delays from hook exec queue
[14:09] <hazmat> stub: sweet!
[14:09] <stub> (in review, not in PostgreSQL charmstore yet)
[14:11] <stub> If we don't use hooks at all for failover, we are stuck with a shared ip or using proxies (which themselves need to be HA)
[14:12] <stub> So I was thinking of pgpool-ii if the native juju approach doesn't fly, but I'll look at governor now you have pointed me at it.
[14:12] <hazmat> stub: its more about keeping a secondary data store (consul/etcd) for leadership and notification
[14:13] <hazmat> pgpool failover has all kinds of gotchas as do the trigger solutions.. pg native replication is the way to go, just need coordination for leader and failover scenarios
[14:14] <stub> If I can't use leadership to coordinate who is primary and the cascading replicas, I'll need something to coordinate it.
[14:17] <stub> But I think a small process running on the units that do 'if is_leader and master_not_up and quorum_available: failover', with the failover process triggered by juju-run (which I think can do the operations right now on the other units, rather than waiting for hooks)
[14:17] <stub> But first, rework the horrible mess of code into something less horrible. Next, add features :)
[14:19] <stub> I thought pgpool-ii does support native replication.
[14:21] <stub> (It has other features besides synchronous replication)
[14:47] <cholcombe> juju: is it possible to recreate the run time environment that juju is using for debugging purposes?
[15:14] <apuimedo> jamespage: ping
[15:18] <sebas5384> jose: ping
[15:39] <jamespage> apuimedo, hey - not ignoring you but mid database recovery right now
[15:40] <apuimedo> jamespage: no problem
[15:40] <apuimedo> I'll be online a few hours more
[15:40] <apuimedo> ping me when you have some time ;-)
[20:28] <hazmat> stub: re pgpool native, its the failure scenarios that it overloads with complexity imo.. also proxy and trigger mean application awareness for ddl changes
[20:30] <hazmat> stub: do you know if you can setup logical decoding of wal and hot_standby on the same server or is wal mode either or
[20:30] <hazmat> would be nice to add bottledwater to my current cluster setup
[20:36] <cholcombe> do the juju container suppose running fuse in them?
[20:36] <cholcombe> /dev/fuse seems to be missing
[21:04] <apuimedo> jamespage: ping
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[02:58] <m0r0n> Has anyone had issues with loading large images?
[02:58] <m0r0n> I have a 55MB image and both Gimp and the default viewer crash
[02:59] <holstein> m0r0n: nope.. what is the image type? try opening from terminal and see the messages..
[03:00] <m0r0n> jpeg. okay
[03:00] <holstein> you can share the image, and i'll try and open it, if you like..
[03:01] <m0r0n> http://storage.algonquinmap.com/v5/Jeffs%20Map%20-%20Algonquin%20-%20Version%205.0%20-%20Wall%20Map.zip
[03:02] <m0r0n> 97.6MB **
[03:03] <m0r0n> http://pastebin.com/qvp0dRQb
[03:03] <holstein> m0r0n: its open here..
[03:04] <holstein> anyways, you have all kinds of errors to look up there
[11:02] <Reptilia> Since i can't enter the aircrack-ng IRC channel, i will ask here. When i run the packet injection test, using the aireplay-ng command, i am getting the following message: http://pastebin.com/cG6kQKKJ . Any ideas? Thanks in advance.
[11:04] <cfhowlett> Reptilia, probably need to register for aircrack
[15:52] <ronin> any idea what could cause fan error on my thinkpad t61
[15:52] <ronin> it even starts and the fan rolls so..
[15:53] <ronin> or i mean starts and gives an error and turns off
[15:53] <holstein> fan error? maybe hardware breakage? overheating at boot?.. i might try and isolate the OS from that..
[15:55] <ronin> yes, before anything happens it gives the fan error. in the past it booted every now and then after reboot (if i got the error) but no it wont boot at all
[15:55] <ronin> maybe the fan is breaking but i dont understand how it can sense that
[15:55] <holstein> the bios?
[15:55] <ronin> because it made weird sounds at some point
[15:56] <holstein> it would have sensors, potentially
[15:56] <holstein> in those cases, i will try and remove the hard drive, so that i can be more "forceful" without worrying about breaking it
[15:56] <ronin> i cannot even enter bios because it shuts ddown before entering
[15:57] <holstein> i will search hardware specific formus.. i will try and get in the case, as much as possible, and look for loose connections, or broken hardware.. or, just things that can be causing overheating.. animal hair, dust.. etc
[15:57] <lduros> hi, I recently installed xubuntu 15.04 and was using 14.04.2 before that. My laptop is a MacBookPro retina display. With ARandr in 14.04, I was able to lower the resolution from 2880x1800 to 1900x1200, but now when I do this I just get a black screen. Any idea what could be going on? Thx
[16:01] <holstein> lduros: hardware driver support.. maybe a regression from what you said.. what driver are you using? what GPU is that?
[16:03] <lduros> http://hastebin.com/apirahegat.sm
[16:03] <lduros> this is what i see from lshw
[16:03] <lduros> ^^ holstein
[16:04] <lduros> it's using nouveau as a driver, as far as i can remember it was using nouveau as well before
[16:09] <holstein> lduros: you can try the proprietary drivers, and see if thats any "better"
[16:10] <lduros> hmm
[16:11] <lduros> alright, i'll give it a shot... hopefully I won't just brick my laptop
[16:11] <lduros> haha
[16:12] <holstein> lduros: well, you should be able to enter the recover kernel, and revert
[16:21] <ronin> money well spent for a chinese fan, after two years and its broken
[16:35] <lduros> nvidia firmware failed. the screen was black after a few seconds of xubuntu booting splash screen
[16:35] <lduros> hehe
[18:08] <DarkSim_> Hello. I'm using Xubuntu 14.04, I'm trying to use an application which is proprietary (and not even PPA-based) If anyone cares to take on the case I'll be glad, the application is Polish and is called Moja cewe fotoksiazka. It asks for an update when I start it up but then it tells me the perl script doesn't exist? I did find a updater.pl but I think it might be pointed wrong
[18:59] <MrSassyPants> ok I seem to be missing stuff like xfce4-mixer after installing xubuntu-desktop
[19:00] <MrSassyPants> is there a -full metapackage that I don't see?
[19:01] <Unit193> xfce4-mixer isn't installed by default. But did you install the meta or the task? Installing the task is usually better.
[20:41] <hylian> hello all
[23:14] <bynarie> anybody know how to change the time display on the lockscreen. so instead of 24 hour format i would like it to be 12 hour format
[23:23] <GridCube> is'nt it the same as your desktop clock?
[23:23] <GridCube> mmm
[23:25] <GridCube> bynarie, sudo mousepad /etc/lightdm/lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf
[23:26] <bynarie> thank you
[23:52] <windows_babby> hi, I'm trying to install xubuntu on my ssd and reinstall windows on my hdd after a horrendous failure trying to fix issues with elementary OS. just looking for some clarifications
[23:52] <GridCube> !ask | windows_babby
[23:53] <GridCube> :D
[23:55] <windows_babby> got it. this is my first time using a support IRC so I apologize. might I ask what exactly is the purpose of partitioning parts of the drive for the OS? why I would make a partition much bigger than the actual size of the OS for it?
[23:57] <windows_babby> !patience
[23:57] <GridCube> windows_babby, think of it like this, you have a house, you want to have a kitchen and a bathroom, you also want a bedroom and a dinner room, you could technically have it all in the same space, but its usually better to divide the house with walls, you are in fact partitioning your house in different spaces, but its in the essence the same house
[23:58] <GridCube> partitioning a disk is similar to this in many aspects
[23:58] <GridCube> you want to partition a disk to place stuff on one area that doesnt affect the other in general, so if you renew your kitchen you can still use the bedroom
[23:58] <GridCube> does this makes sense to you?
[23:59] <windows_babby> that's a very helpful analogy. so would it be unwise, seeing as the OS is just under 1gb, to make its partition (the ext4 with a "/"
[23:59] <windows_babby> *"/" mount point, if I'm not mistaken) only 1.5gb?
[23:59] <GridCube> are you not planning on installing any software at all?
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[00:11] <diddledan> emergency. kittens. https://twitter.com/EmrgencyKittens/status/615662321642414080/photo/1 !!!
[01:00] <daftykins> diddledan: Connection reset by purr - https://i.imgur.com/x6iQ1RD.jpg
[01:00] <diddledan> naww
[01:00] <diddledan> that's sooo koot
[01:01] <daftykins> hmm activated the new SIM for the guy who dropped his phone in a harbour, phone still doesn't join a network
[01:02] <daftykins> granted O2 said 24hrs but wat
[01:43] <diddledan> https://instagram.com/p/4iQXgdj2a2/
[01:43] <diddledan> lol
[01:45] <daftykins> :)
[03:23] <mapps> yo
[04:15] <mapps> :4iant wait for the USSR again
[04:15] <mapps> :)
[06:58] <popey> morning
[07:48] <MooDoo> morning popey
[08:07] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Meteor Watch Day! 😃
[08:14] <knightwise> mornin
[08:17] <awilkins> Office365 mail seems to have failed. Woe is me.
[08:18] <knightwise> auw
[08:29] <davmor2> Morning all
[08:33] <foobarry> leap second tonight
[08:33] <foobarry> broke stuff last time
[08:35] <awilkins> What, so the leap second is breaking things so hard that the effects are rippling back into the past ;-)
[08:36] <foobarry> 485.3 MiB + 77.9 MiB = 563.2 MiB chrome (11)
[08:36] <foobarry> 690.5 MiB + 2.8 MiB = 693.3 MiB firefox
[08:36] <foobarry> fierefox has 2 windows and 12 tabs. chrome has 1 tab :|
[08:36] <foobarry> it is an OS in a browser though
[08:40] <zmoylan-pi> and government spy platform
[08:41] <JamesTait> "OK Google. Send all my browsing information to GCHQ."
[08:41] <zmoylan-pi> what again? :-)
[08:46] <foobarry> face it, the pipes have sniffers on anyway. using midori and duckduckgo aint gonna change that
[08:47] <zmoylan-pi> it's only defeat if you accept it
[08:47] <popey> foobarry: does your machine only have 1GB RAM or something?
[08:47] <foobarry> 8GB
[08:47] <foobarry> its an i5 desktop
[08:48] <foobarry> as we discussed yesterday, in normal use chrome is using 6gb for a few tabs
[08:48] <foobarry> its shot up lately
[08:50] <popey> erk
[08:55] <foobarry> after a full disk, apt-get install -f doesn't work, complaining of no space on device, even thoguh there now is
[08:55] <foobarry> don eautoclean and autoremove...
[08:56] <bashrc_> morning
[09:00] <foobarry> ah, dpkg --configure -a
[09:02] <mapps> SHEESH
[09:10] <foobarry> aaaaah inodes
[09:10] <foobarry> ran out of inodes
[09:17] <davmor2> JamesTait: that doesn't sound like a happy day at all ;)
[09:18] <JamesTait> davmor2, more of a happy night, I suppose. 😉
[09:20] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[09:20] <davmor2> JamesTait: also you didn't say good morning infront of it so who are you and what have you done with the real JamesTait ??????
[09:21] <JamesTait> 2015-06-30T09:07:01+0100 < JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Meteor Watch Day! 😃
[09:21] <JamesTait> davmor2, you need to read further back. 😝
[09:22] <davmor2> JamesTait: what the hell were you doing up so twirly
[09:23] <foobarry> now autoremove is not removing old kernels :(
[09:23] <zmoylan-pi> problem with happy meteor watching day is that some asteroid will use it as cover... :-P
[09:24] <zmoylan-pi> oooooh that's a big ****BOOOMMMMMM****
[09:25] <JamesTait> davmor2, it does happen occasionally. Today's excuse is... I don't really have an excuse, but I will be out for a large-ish part of tomorrow afternoon, so I suppose this is partially making up that time.
[09:25] <davmor2> JamesTait: ah fair enough
[09:26] <zmoylan-pi> so... tomorrow will be national non JamesTait day?.... :-)
[09:27] <JamesTait> davmor2, I think today I just decided to get straight into work instead of tinkering beforehand. ☺
[09:27] <JamesTait> zmoylan-pi, if that asteroid hits me, yes!
[09:28] <JamesTait> But I suspect, if that were to happen, a missing JamesTait would be the least of everyone's worries.
[09:28] <zmoylan-pi> could you visit ukip hq tomorrow? 2 birds one gianomorous rock... :-P
[09:28] <davmor2> JamesTait: we don't need to know about your toilet habits before you start work :P
[09:29] <JamesTait> davmor2, only you could turn "tinkering" into something toilet-related. 😉
[09:31] <davmor2> JamesTait: well it would either be me or popey but he is probably in the garden sun bathing while pretending to work, so not really reading the chat on irc unless he nick is pinged ;)
[09:31] <JamesTait> Yeah, davmor2, but who would ping popey? 😝
[09:32] <popey> well
[09:32] <popey> I did pop to the shop to get some milk
[09:32] <popey> but no, too hot to sit in the garden
[09:32] <zmoylan-pi> we could order lawn darts off ebay and throw them at him in his garden? :-P
[09:32] <foobarry> i love this weather so much
[09:33] <foobarry> looks shady on your webcam
[09:33] <davmor2> popey: hahaha :)
[09:45] <mapps> hm
[09:45] <mapps> i need o quit smoking
[09:46] <mapps> i went for a 5k run and it killed me
[09:46] <zmoylan-pi> apply lubricant first...
[09:46] <mapps> and i think im in good shape
[09:46] <mapps> il prob never quit ;)
[09:46] <mapps> but i can try;p
[09:46] <foobarry> smoking reduces lung capacity
[09:47] <zmoylan-pi> smoking reduces money...
[09:47] <foobarry> and life capacity
[09:47] <diplo> Hi all, keep having my network dropping on my 15.04 box randomly
[09:48] <mapps> im on about 25-30/day
[09:48] <diplo> Any pointers where to look, all other machines on lan are fine, will try a cable but think it's software related as I'm sure I did some updates Friday before shutting down
[09:48] <diplo> Started yesterday when i booted PC up back at work
[09:49] <mapps> i think im in trouble
[09:49] <mapps> 25-30 for 18 years
[09:49] <foobarry> switch to ecig?
[09:49] <foobarry> or champix
[09:49] <mapps> nah
[09:50] <diplo> nah, don't do e-cigs, my sister and a few other people I know are addicted to them now
[09:50] <mapps> because i also have a drink problem remember;p
[09:50] <diplo> :)
[09:50] <mapps> lol
[09:50] <foobarry> a friend quit on champix
[09:50] <diplo> Just go cold turkey! That's how I did it
[09:50] <diplo> 60 a day to nothing
[09:50] <foobarry> he was doing a study
[09:50] <foobarry> clinical trial type thing
[09:50] <foobarry> and he quit compeltely
[09:51] <mapps> im 25-30/day 10 pints /half a litre of vodka day
[09:51] <mapps> ;p
[09:51] <bashrc_> diplo: I remember I had a similar problem, but I don't think I fixed it
[09:51] <diplo> :(
[09:51] <bashrc_> i.e. wifi dropping out occasionally and not coming back
[09:51] <foobarry> being addicted to ecigs is more healthy
[09:51] <diplo> I'll try and dig out a cable
[09:51] <diplo> This is wired bashrc_
[09:51] <foobarry> bashrc_: i read that as wife popping out occasionally and not coming back
[09:51] <bashrc_> ok
[09:51] <diplo> Which makes it even odder
[09:51] <shauno> 'more' is still debatable. it's trading known risks for unknown risks at this point.
[09:52] <bashrc_> foobarry: :)
[09:52] <diplo> +1 shauno
[09:52] <diplo> I started again after 15+ years of giving up
[09:52] <foobarry> oh
[09:52] <foobarry> that sucks
[09:52] <shauno> well that was silly
[09:52] <foobarry> life event?
[09:53] <bashrc_> recently I bought a load of wifi dongles from thinkpenguin, and they work well even on the most hardcore free software systems
[09:53] <diplo> It does, and yup
[09:53] <mapps> why cant i get help then;/
[09:53] <diplo> Wife left me and been in a lot of pain for 2-3 years ( still undiagnosed ) and I use it to take my mind off it
[09:54] <mapps> :((
[09:54] <mapps> that sucks diplo
[09:54] <diplo> mapps: You've got to want to give up, you've got to be in the mindset
[09:54] <mapps> but i dont want to
[09:54] <diplo> When I gave up I had decided that it would be £2.50 a pack of 20, or work stopped letting us smoke inside
[09:54] <diplo> Both things happened on the same day!
[09:54] <mapps> i enjoy drinking
[09:54] <diplo> So I stopped there and then
[09:55] <mapps> geez
[09:55] <shauno> and then came back when it got to e10/pack?
[09:55] <diplo> Well you're never going to give up if you don't want to, for me it was my kids as well
[09:55] <mapps> £2.50 how old are you;p
[09:55] <diplo> Rollies shauno :)
[09:55] <diplo> 39
[09:55] <mapps> its like 8.10 a pack now
[09:55] <mapps> ;p
[09:55] <diplo> Smoked from when I was 12 till I was 22
[09:55] <mapps> ive smoked since i was 18 ..31 now
[09:56] <foobarry> are you planning on giving up again?
[09:56] <diplo> Yeah
[09:56] <foobarry> today!
[09:56] <mapps> its so cheap here i smoke more
[09:56] <mapps> £2.20 20 marlboro
[09:56] <diplo> I sometimes go a day or two without one, then I get in real pain and I want a ciggie, so defo easy to do
[09:56] <mapps> £5 litre of stoli vodka
[09:57] <diplo> Just started a new exercise regime to try and fix myself as docs are failing, I think that more than anything will make me quit as I'm so short of breath atm
[09:57] <mapps> i can smoke/drink myself to death for £10
[09:57] <mapps> diplo
[09:58] <mapps> i ran 5k yesterday it killed me
[09:58] <mapps> jesus
[09:58] <mapps> i felt awful
[09:58] <diplo> I do about 2 miles, can just about handle that, whats that 4k?
[09:58] <diplo> But I cycle for 10-20 miles most weekends
[10:00] <shauno> cycling and smoking are a pretty horrid combination
[10:00] <mapps> nah
[10:00] <shauno> if nothing else, it's really difficult to light with that much wind
[10:00] <mapps> cycling is easy
[10:00] <mapps> its running that kills us;p
[10:02] <mapps> im sitting here smoking lol
[10:02] <shauno> poor computer :(
[10:03] <mapps> smoking kills.fact
[10:03] <mapps> idiots game
[10:04] <brobostigon> most things could kill you under the wrong circumstances, even taking a bath.
[10:04] <mapps> it killed my mum .so that says it all
[10:05] <brobostigon> it killed my gf's gradnmother as well.
[10:05] <mapps> she smoked herself to death
[10:06] <zmoylan-pi> which is natures way of saying don't smoke
[10:07] <mapps> yep;p
[10:07] <mapps> my mum would be alive if she hadnt smoked
[10:07] <mapps> died at 42:(
[10:10] <bashrc_> :(
[10:11] * bashrc_ doesn't smoke
[10:11] <directhex> smoking is entirely natural.
[10:11] * mapps does
[10:11] <directhex> if you're a very dry tree.
[10:12] <mapps> il prob die from drink
[10:12] <mapps> before smoking
[10:13] <foobarry> its your choice
[10:14] <mapps> nah
[10:14] <foobarry> oh but it is
[10:15] <mapps> yes and no
[10:17] <mapps> i didnt ask for any of this;p mum dying my irlfriend cheating on me
[10:17] <mapps> didnt ask for it:P
[10:19] <shauno> the crutch is, however, entirely your own doing
[10:31] <diplo> See my grandad smoked from 16 -> 86
[10:34] <SuperMatt> tune in to court 3 for a plucky Brit taking on a Ukranian fellow
[11:04] <awilkins> Someone recommend good hosting
[11:05] <popey> hetzner
[11:05] <ujjain> peeing standing up on a toilet and not putting the toilet seat up is a horrible thing to do, right?
[11:07] <awilkins> Smoking : yes, there is an element of personal responsibility involved, but for many years the tobacco companies pretended that it was harmless or even good for your and they have a large culpability
[11:08] <awilkins> Esp. for knowingly increasing nicotine levels and deliberately including chemicals that improve nicotine absorption so as to maximise addictive effects
[11:10] <daftykins> diddledan: win10 10158 \o/
[11:10] <shauno> ujjain: varies. if it's a public toilet, not touching the seat is probably a good thing. if you're sharing a house with a woman, it's a capital offense. common sense & good judgement is up to you :)
[11:12] <zmoylan-pi> of course if it's a toilet with systemd installed you don't want to touch that one at all so accidents can be expected... :-)
[11:13] <daftykins> oh my how topical!
[11:19] <bujji> hello
[11:21] <daftykins> oh not you again :P
[11:23] <bujji> :))
[11:26] <daftykins> hurrah at a second Samsung Galaxy S3 repaired
[11:26] <daftykins> diplo: it's totally easy :P
[11:27] <diplo> Oh really? It was more the price of screens that put me off
[11:27] <diplo> Cheapest I found at the time was £85~
[11:27] <daftykins> oh i see, i got these for £48 each
[11:28] <daftykins> depends on the colour of model you want
[11:28] <diplo> Incl Digi ?
[11:28] <diplo> Ones white, ones granite grey
[11:28] <daftykins> entire LCD, digitiser, glass and main frame assembly
[11:28] <diplo> I never found it for that price!?!?!?!?!?
[11:28] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/222k7jecohmd13b/AABqemkMg4icFEf0Jzjbaj2Ta?dl=0
[11:28] <diplo> That was maybe Pre November
[11:28] <diplo> Came to the conclusion it was too dear
[11:28] <daftykins> basically get that entire asembly, so you just transfer over a few components and job's a good-un
[11:29] <diplo> Can you link me to where you bought yours ?
[11:29] <daftykins> sure, was just tracking it down
[11:29] <diplo> ta fanx :)
[11:30] <daftykins> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/White-For-Samsung-Galaxy-S3-I9300-LCD-Display-Digitizer-Touch-Screen-Frame-/231052287479
[11:30] <daftykins> there we are, i got both from the same seller
[11:30] <daftykins> i didn't use the little toolkit as i had my own, but the spudger could come in handy for some perhaps
[11:31] <daftykins> they come with some grease smeared over the samsung logo as they must've had their wrists slapped, but it's easily removed :D
[11:33] <diplo> nice thanks, will have to get one
[11:33] <diplo> :)
[11:33] <bujji> daftykins:how much will you charge
[11:33] <daftykins> ^_^ np
[11:33] <daftykins> bujji: for what
[11:34] <bujji> daftykins:you said s3 repaired
[11:35] <daftykins> was just doing it for fun, i don't operate a suspicious looking shop to do this kinda thing paid :>
[11:35] <daftykins> diplo: one thing i've noticed is to not be too easy on sharing your success with the original owners, they may end up wanting them back at cost ;)
[11:35] <daftykins> mate didn't care about his one, now he wants to loan it to his mum
[11:35] <daftykins> ugh
[11:37] <bujji> okey
[11:37] <daftykins> (as in, i think mobile phone repairs require a dodgy shop :D )
[11:38] <bujji> :(?
[11:38] <diplo> Well ones my sisters and the other is the sister in laws
[11:38] <diplo> I guess I'll tell them I dumped them
[11:38] <diplo> :)
[11:39] <daftykins> XD
[11:45] <bujji> daftykins:xd ?
[11:45] <daftykins> this isn't your place for learning everything, bujji
[11:45] <popey> There's a nice little phone repair shop near me, it has so many flashing LEDs in the place it makes me freakout when inside :)
[11:46] <bujji> :))
[11:46] <daftykins> bah these cheap cases i bought don't fit
[11:47] <daftykins> aww Microsoft stopped the run dialogue entry 'wuapp' from working as a shortcut to windows update
[11:48] <bujji> daftykins:XD-->lol
[11:49] <daftykins> congratulations you have achieved: using a search engine
[11:49] <daftykins> lunch time
[11:49] <bujji> daftykins:urbandictionary xd
[11:51] <bujji> daftykins:bonappetit
[11:58] <bujji> daftykins:what should i do for blue screen error while installing windows 7.
[12:01] <popey> install linux
[12:04] <davmor2> bujji: put on a biohazzard suit, take the highly contagious device and place it in a biohazzard bin and never worry about it again?
[12:05] <bujji> davmor2:XD
[12:16] <shauno> kinda want a biohazard suit. so many pranks.
[12:21] <bujji> shauno:have to pay))
[12:21] <shauno> yeah. that's where most my evil plans go wrong
[12:23] <bujji> lol
[12:31] <davmor2> shauno: You need loads if you have evil plans those in volcano bases don't make themselves you know ;)
[12:32] <zmoylan-pi> i'd have thought volcano bases did most of the making themselves
[12:32] <bujji> bye o/
[12:33] <shauno> wait, loads of biohazard suits or loads of money?
[12:33] <bujji> loads of biohazard suits ==loads of money
[12:39] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: the cave yes but I said base, the cave is cheap the base bit isn't :P
[12:40] <shauno> I'm now picturing a volcano base decked out in ikea for budgettary reasons
[12:40] <zmoylan-pi> all those lava tubes are ready made cable conduits
[12:42] <zmoylan-pi> wicker furniture snaffled from a skip
[12:50] <davmor2> yeah see not so evil if you have soft furnishings from ikea
[12:51] <shauno> where there's a will there's a way :)
[12:52] <davmor2> shauno: no it's where there's a will there a bunch of vultures you used to call family ;)
[12:56] <diplo> Thought my network issues had gone :(
[12:58] <davmor2> diplo: Foolish Mortal........Your soul is mine, yours sincerely your ISP
[12:58] <zmoylan-pi> and your little dog too....
[12:59] <diplo> davmor2: Local... :/
[12:59] <diplo> Network keeps dropping just on the ubuntu box :(
[12:59] <davmor2> diplo: is this wifi or wired
[13:00] <diplo> Wired
[13:00] <diplo> Changed cables / ports etc already
[13:00] <diplo> So either software or hardware
[13:00] <davmor2> diplo: is the driver alx?
[13:01] <diplo> Guessing software as had an update friday, shut it down and started monday and that's when the issues started
[13:01] <diplo> Not sure
[13:01] <diplo> Easiest way to check network cards mod used ?
[13:02] <davmor2> diplo: lsmod and look for alx
[13:02] <diplo> No alx in there
[13:03] <davmor2> diplo: that rules out the problem I had then sorry :) Have a look for your lan/module on google and see if there are known issues that what I did with my alx issue
[13:05] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[13:05] <bigcalm> Home VirginMedia connection has been down since last night. That's the main reason to go to the office :S
[13:06] <davmor2> bigcalm: no that is the reason you moan at virgin and they give you a week worth of internet off your next bill :)
[13:07] <bigcalm> I'll moan at them when I get home this evening
[13:07] <diplo> Disconnected again sorry
[13:08] <bigcalm> davmor2: do you have the scroll back to see when I left IRC last night?
[13:08] <davmor2> diplo: that rules out the problem I had then sorry :) Have a look for your lan/module on google and see if there are known issues that what I did with my alx issue
[13:12] <davmor2> bigcalm: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11799003/ looks like your connection is just up and down all night
[13:12] <bigcalm> davmor2: most interesting, thanks
[13:12] <davmor2> bigcalm: welcome
[13:13] <bigcalm> I wonder if VM pushed a new firmware to the superhub and messed up
[13:13] <davmor2> bigcalm: please tell me you don't actually use it in hub mode
[13:14] <bigcalm> Of course I don't
[13:14] <davmor2> bigcalm: few
[13:14] <bigcalm> Haven't used it as a hub for years
[13:15] <bigcalm> Recently put a dual port nic into my proliant microserver so that I could even move all services away from dumb switches
[13:16] * davmor2 just never used it as a hub for more than 10 minutes, the guy fitted it tried to use it, failed switched it to modem only mode
[13:16] <popey> bigcalm: happy birthday!
[13:16] <bigcalm> popey: thank you fella :)
[13:17] <davmor2> bigcalm: oh yeah hippo birdy dude
[13:17] <bigcalm> davmor2: thanks very much
[13:39] <davmor2> popey: no irssi.org anymore
[13:39] <popey> wat?
[13:40] <foobarry> did the future arrive?
[13:40] <foobarry> http://scripts.irssi.org/
[13:40] <popey> probably under attack
[13:40] <popey> they're using cloudflare
[13:41] <davmor2> phew
[14:02] <foobarry> so firefox smooth scrolling is not smooth at all
[14:05] <daftykins> ugh the case of the hosted exchange setup where calendar entries from last year are missing
[14:05] <daftykins> how awkward
[14:41] <shauno> I think I fixed my electrics in the kitchen. I feel so freaking manly right now
[14:42] <shauno> however, I am stood here with a fire extinguisher staring at it. just in case
[14:44] <davmor2> foobarry: just use dillo
[14:45] <daftykins> shauno: what was up?
[14:45] <davmor2> daftykins: well the ceiling was up till the place caught fire now it's more of a carpet
[14:50] <shauno> nah, it wasn't that bad. I got a lot of water in the electric cooker
[14:50] <shauno> but instead of the breaker tripping, the switch on the wall melted
[14:51] <shauno> so after a year of pre-made salads & microwave meals (and dominos. so much dominos) I've replaced the switch
[14:52] <shauno> tried that soylent stuff for a while too, but it takes too long to arrive
[14:54] <davmor2> shauno: well it takes a while to turn a person into green
[14:55] <shauno> on the plus side, I now own a fire extinguisher, so I can have many more adventures :)
[14:55] <daftykins> XD
[14:55] <daftykins> adventures \o/
[14:55] <daftykins> boo to cheap aluminium frame phone cases off ebay that don't fit =|
[15:08] <diddledan> shauno: that's probably a bad decision, owning a fire extinguisher, 'cos it'll encourage you to be less thoughful
[15:09] <diddledan> "who cares if it goes pearshaped. I gots firesquirter!"
[15:10] <davmor2> diddledan: why would you want to squirt fire, surely you want to squirt something that puts out the fire ;)
[15:10] <diddledan> :-p
[15:10] <diddledan> insurance purposes?
[15:14] <shauno> diddledan: wanna go to southampton next month?
[15:14] <diddledan> you over?
[15:14] <davmor2> http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/watch-brilliant-star-wars-prank-5699692 :)
[15:14] <shauno> I'll be passing through in august. and I think you'd be a funny drunk lol
[15:15] <diddledan> lol
[15:15] <shauno> I think it's august. or october. whichever's sooner
[15:16] <shauno> hm, ignore me, I had it right the first time
[15:18] <TwistedLucidity> davmor2: That's dreadful
[15:19] <davmor2> I'd be pressing the button wondering where my lightsaber was :D
[15:20] <TwistedLucidity> The stormtroopers are of no concern, they never hit anything
[15:20] <TwistedLucidity> Darth is the threat.
[15:30] <foobarry> http://i.imgur.com/sN1TedV.png
[15:30] <foobarry> what do you see in this pic? SFW
[15:33] <shauno> a really dirty window?
[15:34] <foobarry> not a dancing man?
[15:34] <foobarry> its on the wall, high up
[15:35] <TwistedLucidity> A wall. Stained or cracked plaster?
[15:35] <TwistedLucidity> Maybe where a bracket came off?
[15:35] <TwistedLucidity> But yes, perhaps a dancing man
[15:36] <shauno> being high up would be a pretty good argument against a dancing man
[15:40] <foobarry> its clearer in the shade
[15:40] <foobarry> sunshine is on it today
[15:40] <foobarry> its far away from brackets or anything
[15:44] <TwistedLucidity> foobarry: Congrats, you have a stain. Call it "Gerald"
[15:45] <foobarry> paddy dolia
[15:55] <intrbiz> I think it's customary to assume it's jesus
[16:02] * daftykins lights up the 'emergency, religious topics' lightbulb
[16:02] <shauno> aw maaaan *buckles laptbelt*
What is it?
[16:04] * bashrc_ retreats to the bunker
[16:04] * popey turns up the voltage on the lamp
[16:06] * popey hmms at http://www.fleetdrive-electric.com/blog/vehicle/volkswagen-golf-gte-plug-in-hybrid/
[16:07] <bigcalm> What's wrong with the Volvo?
[16:08] <popey> failed mot
[16:08] <popey> pondering whether to throw money at it or not
[16:09] <daftykins> bring it down here, no MOT ;)
[16:10] <bigcalm> popey: isn't it getting on a bit now?
[16:10] <bigcalm> Time for a fresh face
[16:14] <davmor2> popey: I can recommend a Skoda Superb as an excellent family car if that helps at all?
[16:42] <diddledan> davmor2: I tend not to trust things that try to tell you how great they are in it's name
[16:43] <diddledan> "this new skoda? it's superb!" <-- like that
[16:44] <davmor2> diddledan: but it is, it is a passat running gear and engine with a Skoda top that is almost certainly imported from the vw plant with a skoda price tag instead of a vw one what isn't there to love :)
[16:47] <diddledan> https://twitter.com/old_sound/status/615793768005042176/photo/1
[16:48] <davmor2> diddledan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIYs7oBUO3w
[16:52] <bujji> hello o/
[16:53] <davmor2> bujji: hello
[16:55] <bujji> davmor2:check pm
[18:09] <daftykins> http://news.softpedia.com/news/eu-the-end-of-roaming-charges-slated-for-june-2017-485688.shtml
[18:09] <daftykins> o0
[18:13] <mapps> great..powercut
[18:14] <mapps> sing my phones 3g;[
[18:16] <daftykins> nice
[18:16] <mapps> not really;p
[18:16] <mapps> cant even go to mcdonalds
[18:17] <daftykins> wat?
[18:42] <awilkins> No power in maccy d, no payment
[18:42] <awilkins> Or maybe he's up a tall building with no UPS and an electric lift
[18:43] <daftykins> retail places can fall back to older tech :D
[18:43] <daftykins> unless they're poorly managed
[19:19] <knightwise> evening everyone
[19:19] <popey> heya
[19:20] <knightwise> hey popey , how are you tonight
[19:24] <popey> ticket boo
[19:25] <knightwise> Working on the podcast here .. putting together shownotes
[20:10] <MartijnVdS> \o/ getting my developer edition xps13 next week
[20:10] <knightwise> MartijnVdS: ! Welcome to the club ! ! ! :)
[20:10] <knightwise> if you need any help , let me know.
[20:10] <MartijnVdS> I kind of went all-in and went for the 3200x1800 / 512GB / i7 one
[20:11] <MartijnVdS> knightwise: they have some weird broadcom wifi right?
[20:11] <knightwise> 2 sudo apt-get install -f 3 sudo apt-get update 4 sudo apt-get upgrade 5 sudo apt-get install linux-generic-lts-vivid
[20:11] <knightwise> Those are the commands you need after bootup .. then move to bios A04
[20:12] <MartijnVdS> knightwise: My initial plan is to install A04 first, then install Debian Jessie, the 4.0 kernel from sid, and Cinnamon 2.6 from sid
[20:14] <MartijnVdS> (if it doesn't come with a04, it's being built right now, according to the dell status page)
[20:20] <intrbiz> knightwise: what is the touchpad like on the new XPS?
[20:54] <diddledan> I hear thunder
[20:55] <mapps> nice 5hr powercut
[20:55] <diddledan> I guess my internettings will be disappearing soon :-p
[20:55] <MartijnVdS> diddledan: A Sound of Thunder?
[20:55] <mapps> cashpoints down...fresh aisles at morrisons closed etc
[20:55] <mapps> and no internet
[20:55] <mapps> powercuts suck
[21:37] <diddledan> daftykins: http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2015/06/30/whoa-another-pc-build/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
[21:38] <diddledan> oh yes! leap seconds soon!
[22:45] <diddledan> 1 hour till the apocalypse
[22:45] <diddledan> (+15 minutes)
[22:46] <diddledan> in other words "sweet ooga mooga"
[22:53] <intrbiz> t - 7 minutes
[22:56] <diddledan> intrbiz: gmt, another hour yet
[22:56] <intrbiz> diddledan: ah, of course
[22:57] <intrbiz> diddledan: damn these time zones
[22:57] <diddledan> "DAMN YOU. DAMN YOU ALL TO HELL"
[22:57] <zmoylan-pi> well you invented them!! :-P
[22:57] <popey> ARMAGEDDON!
[22:58] <zmoylan-pi> preferred deep impact
[23:00] <diddledan> odd how you often get two movies with similar plotlines appear simultaneaously
[23:00] <zmoylan-pi> hollywood doesnt steal ideas!!
[23:03] <popey> people tout their scripts around studios, they all know what eachother is making
[23:03] <diddledan> aye
[23:03] <intrbiz> diddledan: you mean like failsafe and dr strangelove
[23:03] <popey> What I find amusing is how everyone and his dog brings out $THING for $TOPIC of $CURRENT_MOVIE
[23:04] <diddledan> I don't think I know failsafe
[23:04] <zmoylan-pi> well one had peter sellers in multiple roles and one didn't
[23:04] <popey> where this time it was dinosaurs for archeology for jurassic park
[23:04] <zmoylan-pi> you can't fight here, this is the war room!
[23:05] <diddledan> zmoylan-pi: classic!
[23:05] <zmoylan-pi> when you saw the sign in the simpsons 'no riding the bomb' you knew exactly what it was referring too
[23:06] <diddledan> I miss spoof-movies. nowadays a "spoof" isn't really an homage but more a "screw you"
[23:07] <diddledan> e.g. not another teen movie and the like
[23:07] <zmoylan-pi> they could never top naked gun movies
[23:07] <diddledan> indeed
[23:07] <diddledan> and the airplane
[23:07] <zmoylan-pi> blazing saddles
[23:07] <diddledan> heck yeah!
[23:07] <diddledan> blazing saddles was genius
[23:07] <zmoylan-pi> the beans scene...
[23:08] <zmoylan-pi> i cannot watch that scene without laughing out loud no matter how i swear this time i won't
[23:09] <zmoylan-pi> and it's one of the few movies hollywood would never be able to do a remake of
[23:10] <diddledan> yeah the racial stuff just wouldn't be kosher to make now
[23:10] <zmoylan-pi> the sherriff is a n__ *bong*
[23:11] <shauno> reminds me, I read they're making a sequel to Top Gun?
[23:11] <diddledan> shauno: yup, and tom cruise is back
[23:11] <zmoylan-pi> with or without the f35 which can't dogfight? :-)
[23:11] <diddledan> pmsl: https://twitter.com/sharoorocks/status/615877478511431680/photo/1
[23:12] <diddledan> the rumour is that it's not about dogfighting
[23:14] <diddledan> this win10 upgrade is taking its sweet time - I set it going when I told daftykins about it with a link ^^^ (somewhere up there) and it's still not finished
[23:15] <diddledan> also. apple music is refusing to activate.
[23:15] <diddledan> (in itunes on my maccytosh)
[23:16] <diddledan> I think with those two lines I've seriously undermined my position in linux circles :-p
[23:16] <zmoylan-pi> maybe it'll be like pentagon wars about development of f35 :-) might be as funny https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXQ2lO3ieBA
[23:22] <intrbiz> diddledan: will you be using WiFi Sense in W10?
[23:28] <diddledan> lol @ the bradley
[23:28] <shauno> you're not missing much diddledan
[23:32] <zmoylan-pi> i highly recommend that movie
[23:36] <diddledan> shauno: oh?
[23:37] <shauno> it's ...
[23:37] <shauno> well, getting the UI right is usually apple's strong point. except itunes. what the hell itunes.
[23:38] <shauno> well, so far, 'apple music' has just made itunes' UI even more disjoint.
[23:39] <shauno> the actual service isn't bad. but the UI is a trainwreck. it seems to work best if you have no idea what you're looking for. because if you're looking for something in particular, $DEITY help you
[23:40] <diddledan> hmm, I only have one $DEITY. maybe I should sign-up for a few more so that I can "$N * $DEITY help me"?
[23:41] <diddledan> surely more deities is the way to go, right?
[23:41] <shauno> more or less ;)
[23:42] <ali1234> so it's spotify then?
[23:42] <shauno> spotify still drive me nuts because they care what country I'm in
[23:42] <diddledan> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGkwkH-zu8c
[23:43] <diddledan> liek that ^^ :-D
[23:43] <shauno> unfortunately they think my office is in france, so I change countries several 6-10 times a week
[23:43] <diddledan> that's nuts
[23:44] <diddledan> georestrictions are so last millenia
[23:44] <shauno> oh it's not restrictions. that's the best bit. it works in france, it works in ireland, it just won't let you go from one to the other without kicking up a fuss
[23:45] <shauno> it has a limit to how many times you can change per month. the limit is perfectly suitable for vacations, but not for geopip-fail
[23:46] <diddledan> how do you access when at work? i.e. via the corp net or via your cellular thingie
[23:46] <shauno> that's it, corp lan, which is proxied via the main office. in paris.
[23:47] <diddledan> yeah that's what I thunked
[23:47] <diddledan> geo restrictions just don't seem to anticipate that people will use routes
[23:47] <diddledan> any routes.
[23:48] <shauno> my bank have got the hang of it, surprisingly enough
[23:48] <diddledan> the whole point of IP is that it isn't geographical
[23:48] <shauno> they used to freak out that I'd be buying things in france and ireland at the same time
[23:48] <diddledan> lol
[23:50] <diddledan> and with IP auctions now that there are none left for purchase means that routing tables are going to grow rather crazily and also mean that regional IP allocations are going to be impossible to quantify
[23:51] <diddledan> e.g. Virgin might sell a /24 to an american co but it's still assigned by RIPE meaning that it's still a UK/European address that just happens to route to americaland
[23:53] <diddledan> in unrelated news. Having a touchscreen on my surfacepro3 has broken me - I keep trying to touch my mbp's screen expecting it to do stuff
[23:54] <shauno> don't do that. that's bad.
[23:54] <diddledan> how bad?
[23:55] <shauno> I'll cut your fingers off if you touch my screen
[23:55] <diddledan> "yeah, baby, touch my screen! you know you want to.."
[23:56] <diddledan> I could continue but that might risk me being kicked for non-family-friendly behaviour :-p
[23:56] <shauno> or your fingers cut off :)
[23:56] <diddledan> or that
[23:56] <diddledan> I'm not sure finger cutting is family friendly, either
[23:57] <shauno> touch my screen and we'll find out ;)
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2015-06-30-#ubuntu-jp
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[13:04] <hito_jp> こんばんは（接続があやしい）
[13:05] <mizuno> こんばんは
[13:05] <hito_jp> あああああイベントの精算しなきゃ……
[13:07] <mizuno> こばやしさんがいない？
[13:08] <jkbys> こんばんは
[13:08] <hito_jp> 仰向けのまま寝てしまったのか……
[13:09] <jkbys> Ubuntu Japanese Teamのミーティングをはじめます。
[13:09] <jkbys> 発言は日本語もしくは英語(English)でお願いします。
[13:09] <hito_jp> （移動中
[13:11] <hito_jp> とりあえずイベント費用ですが、チームからの出費は5.8万強でした
[13:11] <hito_jp> 個人的に追加した分とかが2万弱ありますがこれはスルーで……
[13:13] <jkbys> では詳細はMLのほうにお願いします
[13:14] <jkbys> 沖縄へ荷物だしました
[13:15] <mizuno> はいー
[13:15] <mizuno> 今週末すね
[13:15] <mizuno> 荷物って北海道の時と同じです？
[13:15] <jkbys> 同じ
[13:16] <mizuno> SDとか日経のムックとか、現地で調達した方がいいすかね
[13:17] <jkbys> どやろ
[13:17] <mizuno> 書籍がなんかないと、ブースが割とさみしいんですよね。というわけで持ち込むか現地で買うかします
[13:18] <jkbys> よろしくお願いします
[13:18] <mizuno> はいー
[13:18] <jkbys> 他になにかありますか
[13:19] <hito_jp> 自分はないです
[13:20] <mizuno> ないです
[13:20] <jkbys> では終わりで
[13:20] <jkbys> 来週の火曜は病院なので、人がいればお願いします
[13:21] <jkbys> ではお疲れ様でした
[13:21] <mizuno> 来週火曜は遅くなるかも
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2015-06-30-#ubuntu-de
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[08:47] <ShiroNeko> morgen, ne frage zu displays und dockingstations. Habe das Problem dass ich immer wieder die einstellungen für die displays vornehmen muss wenn ich das laptop aus der dockingstation nehme, wieder anschliesse, ohne dockinstation verwende
[08:47] <ShiroNeko> kann man da irgendwas machen, oder einfach damit leben dass bei jeder änderung die einstellungen neu gemacht werden müssen?
[08:53] <stevieh> ShiroNeko: du kannst da wahrscheinlich schon mit xrandr was automatisieren. Was für ein ubuntu isses denn?
[09:07] <sash_> Mein Gnome merkt sich alle verschiedenen Monitore.
[09:10] <stevieh> ja, deswegen ja die Frage nach dem ubuntu. kann sein, dass das xfce zeugse das anders macht
[10:08] <Freshly> hallo zusammen. Ich habe mir einen neuen PC gekauft und eben ubuntu 14.04.02 installiert. ich kann zwar booten und kriege den login screen, jedoch werde ich nach dem login (also nach passwort eingabe) sofort wieder ausgeloggt
[10:08] <Freshly> das gleiche problem besteht auch beim gastaccount
[10:08] <Freshly> syslog sagt mir:
[10:09] <Freshly> gnome-session: WARNING: software accelaration check fialed: Child process existed with code 1
[10:09] <k1l> warst du schonmal gebootet?
[10:09] <Freshly> gnome-session: CRITICAL: We failed, but the fail whale is dead. Sorry...
[10:09] <Freshly> ja die ersten zwei logins haben funktioniert
[10:09] <Freshly> (da habe ich updates eingespielt und ein broadcome treiber
[10:09] <k1l> und was hast du da gemacht?
[10:10] <Freshly> (-> additional drivers -> broadcom, AFAIR war das wlan adapter)
[10:10] <Freshly> und dann halt noch updates (inkl. kernel update)
[10:10] <stevieh> und was für ne Grafik ist da drin?
[10:10] <k1l> geh mal auf die tty1, log dich dort ein al suser, und dann guck mit "ls -al" ob der kram in deinem home-ordner alles deinem user oder root gehört
[10:10] <Freshly> gtx mom...
[10:10] <Freshly> 980 glaube ich
[10:10] <Freshly> sec
[10:11] <Freshly> ASUS STRIX GTX 980 DC2OC
[10:12] <stevieh> in der richtung würde ich suchen
[10:12] <Freshly> k1l: merci für den tipp, versuche das gleich mal
[10:12] <k1l> ach der guest account geht auch nicht? dann würde ich auch eher auf die treiber tippen. also die video karten treiber
[10:13] <Freshly> k1l: ja der guest accoutn geht auch nicht
[10:13] <stevieh> du kannst in /var/log/xorg.0.log evtl. sehen, was das ding von deiner Grafik hält
[10:13] <Freshly> ich habe auch versucht gnome zu installieren (also nicht die ubuntu unity / gnome variante, sonder gnome-session )
[10:13] <Freshly> das ging auch nicht
[10:13] <k1l> hast du video treiber installiert?
[10:14] <Freshly> k1l: ich habe gar nix installiert nein. plain ubuntu mit aktuellen patches (und dem broadcom driver)
[10:14] <k1l> dann installier mal den "nvidia-current"
[10:15] <Freshly> ok
[10:15] <Freshly> achja: was ich gesehen habe, der display manager sagte mir, das mein bildschirm "built-in" sei
[10:15] <Freshly> was nicht stimmt
[10:15] <Freshly> ich habe zwei ASUS monitore via Displayport angeschlossen
[10:15] <k1l> wobei besser wohl der nvidia-331 ist
[10:18] <ShiroNeko> stevieh: kubuntu 14.04 LTS
[10:19] <stevieh> mit kubuntu kenn ich mich nicht so aus, unter gnome/unity geht das recht gut automatisch.
[10:22] <ShiroNeko> stevieh: ich würde statt kscreen auch xrandr verwenden, hab da kein schmerz mit
[10:22] <ShiroNeko> wie würde die automatisierung da denn beispielhaft aussehenß
[10:22] <stevieh> k.a.
[10:26] <Freshly> k1l: permissions im home verzeichniss sehen ok aus
[10:26] <Freshly> ich installiere jetzt mal den nvidia treiber
[10:30] <Freshly> k1l: no luck :( hab nun den treiber installisert und ein reboot gemacht. läuft nicht
[10:33] <Freshly> k1l: Xorg.0.log says: "(EE) open /dev/dri/card0: No such file or directory"
[10:33] <Freshly> (EE) open /dev/fb0: N such file or directory
[10:34] <Freshly> (WW) VESA(0): Unable to estimate virtual size
[10:34] <Freshly> (WW) VESA(0) No valid modes left. Trying less strict filter...
[10:35] <Freshly> hmm looks like he later found one (1024x768)
[10:35] <Freshly> (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIXIDA X driver not found)
[10:36] <Freshly> later I'm getting a handful "No input driver specific, ignoring this device" messages
[10:37] <Freshly> then it stops at "remvoing GPU device /sys/devices/pci0000blabla/drm/card0 /dev/dri/card0"
[10:45] <Freshly> hat irgendjemand eine idee was ich machen könnte?
[10:49] <stevieh> fehlt da ein kernel modul?
[10:50] <k1l> du kannst mal gucken welchen treiber man am besten bei deiner karte sonst nimmt
[10:51] <k1l> ahjo. welcher kernel ist das? "uname -a" und sind die header installiert zu dem kernel? "dpkg -l | grep linux-headers"
[10:52] <Freshly> mom
[10:53] <Freshly> ps: hab xfce installiert, da kann ich mich einloggen (aber es fehlen menüs etc)
[10:54] <Freshly> kernel: 3.16.0-41-generic
[10:55] <Freshly> dpkg -l | grep linux-headers -> da sehe ich *.0-30 und *.0-41
[10:58] <k1l> auch mit "ii" am anfang der zeile?
[10:58] <Freshly> mom
[10:58] <Freshly> habe jetzt mal apt-get install linux-headers.generic gemacht (siehe http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2099808) und nun bekomme ich:
[10:59] <Freshly> Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 3.13.0-55-generic /boot/vmlinuzblabla
[10:59] <Freshly> consult /var/lib/dkms/nvidi-331/331.113/build/make.log for more information
[10:59] <k1l> aha. also hat er beim installieren von nvidia-331 schon gemeckert
[11:00] <Freshly> und im make.log sehe ich: objdump '/var/lib/dkmsblabla/.tmp.nv.o': no such file
[11:00] <Freshly> mv: cannot stat //Vvar/libdkms/blabla.tmp_nv.o0: NO such file or directory
[11:00] <Freshly> make[@]: *** [/var/lib/dkms/nvidiablabla/nv.o] Error 1
[11:01] <Freshly> dann noch ein paar weitere make errors und dann:
[11:01] <Freshly> NVIDIA: left KBUILD. nvidia.ko failed to build
[11:02] <k1l> also kann er das treiber modul gar nicht erst bauen. das wäre dann mal der punkt zum einhaken
[11:02] <Freshly> ich installiere mir mal den nvidia-current
[11:02] <Freshly> wenn das nicht klappt mache ich einen reinstall
[11:02] <k1l> nein warte. einfach wild installieren und drüberinstallieren bringt einen nicht weiter.
[11:02] <stevieh> trancquillo
[11:03] <k1l> guck nach welche fehler genau auftreten beim versuch das zu bauen. und dann muss man da gucken warum das so ist.
[11:03] <Freshly> k1l: hab mir nun den nvidia-current gezogen
[11:03] <Freshly> da sehe ich depmod und DKMS: install cimpleted
[11:05] <Freshly> still no luck... nach einem reboot -> gleiches problm
[11:06] <Freshly> keine ahnung mehr was ich machen soll.... jetzt habe ich ein w8 (was wohl das besch* OS auf erden ist) und ein ubuntu das auf einem frisch installierten PC nicht läuft
[11:06] <k1l> nochmal: einfach nur blind sachen installieren ist keine problemlösung.
[11:07] <k1l> guck mla nach was mit deiner karte unter ubuntu 14.04 so für erfahrungen bestehen. meistens sind die neueren treiber dort besser.
[11:08] <k1l> wenn es probleme beim installieren gibt, dann wird dsa auch angezeigt. also nicht einfach sturr auf weiter klicken sondern lesen was dort steht und wenn man es nicht versteht dann fragen oder nachgucken.
[11:08] <Freshly> k1l: mit nvidia-current sollte ich ja den aktuellsten treiber haben
[11:09] <k1l> nein
[11:09] <k1l> das ist der getestete und zur zeit des release freeze (2014) stabile treiber.
[11:10] <Freshly> ok, dann sollte der ja funzen oder? sonst kann ich ja noch http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/343.22/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-343.22.run probieren?
[11:10] <k1l> Freshly: soll ich es nochmal wiederholen?
[11:10] <Freshly> gerne
guck mla nach was mit deiner karte unter ubuntu 14.04 so für erfahrungen bestehen. meistens sind die neueren treiber dort besser.
[11:12] <k1l> ich habe keine nvidia gamer hightech schießmichtot super duper karte. also schau doch einfach mal anch welcher treiber mit deiner karte bekannt ist gut zu funktionieren. dann deinstallierst du zuerst alles von nvidia, machst nen reboot und dann installierst du dieses treiber, der bekannt ist zu funktionieren.
[11:14] <da_didi> kurze frage: ich habe einen linux router (ipfire), die hardware sind gigabit netzwerkkarten - laut SNMP ist die verfügbare Bandbreite nur 10MBit/s
[11:14] <Freshly> k1l: auf reddit sehe ich, ich soll es mal mit nvidia-346 versuchen. das mache ich jetzt gleich mal
[11:14] <da_didi> wie kann ich das unter linux prüfen? ipconfig -a zeigt keine hardwaredaten?
[11:15] <da_didi> lspci sagt "gigabit network connection"
[11:15] <stevieh> mii-tool
[11:16] <da_didi> stevieh: klappt, danke
[11:16] <Freshly> k1l: klappt. sieht so aus als ob die nvidia treiber (also vom nvidia repo direkt) funktionieren, nicht aber die treiber von ubuntu
[11:17] <stevieh> nvidia repo? Seit wann gibt es sowas?
[11:17] <da_didi> stevieh: ethtool ist der nachfolger, aber danke für die hilfe
[11:17] <Freshly> jetzt sehe ich unter "additional drivers" (neben broadcom wireless driver) auch den nvidia
[11:18] <Freshly> stevieh: musst ein zusätzliche repo hinzufügen, da scheinen die aktuellen nvidia treiber drauf zu sein. mit denen funktioniert es
[12:37] <dreamon> Hallo. Hatte eine ältere Kiste auf der KUbuntu 14.04 und Windows 8.1 in Virtualbox lief. Da aber das Windows so zäh ging, hab ich mir ein neues Mainboard zugelegt. Wenn ich jetzt Windows8.1 starte lande ich in der UEFI Shell. Habe die Festplatte nicht verändert. Jemand eine Idee was ich machen kann?
[12:37] <dreamon> Wäre schön wenn das Win8.1 in Virtualbox wieder laufen würde
[12:39] <Rochvellon> dreamon: 1. das ist kein ubuntu-spezifisches problem, 2. musst du im bios entweder den legacy modus einstellen oder linux für uefi fittmachen
[12:40] <k1l> dreamon: win8.1 in virtualbox? das hat doch mit dem host nichts zu tun.
[12:40] <dreamon> Rochvellon, 1. Tut mir leid. Wüßte nicht wo ich fragen sollte. 2. Im bios? Versteh ich nicht dachte die Virtualbox emuliert die Hardware samt bios.
[12:42] <dreamon> Ubuntu ist ja der Host, in Virtualbox läuft Windows8 - Seit neuer hardware läuft Virtualbox (Windows8) nicht mehr
[12:43] <k1l> check mal die settings der vbox. evtl hast du da sachen angehakt, die das neue mainboard/cpu nicht kann
[12:45] <dreamon> k1l, Die neue CPU ist ein i7. Habe Virtual Optionen aktiviert sonst bekäme ich ein "error VT-x is not available" .. aber das hab ich im Bios aktiviert. in meinem Fall geht es ja darum wenn ich in Virutalbox Windows8 starte das ich in der UEFI interactive shell lande und dort nicht mehr weiterläuft
[12:47] <Rochvellon> hm, schonmal versucht, vb zu de- und wieder installieren?
[12:49] <dreamon> Vielleicht sollte ich das hier mal versuchen? → http://askubuntu.com/questions/162148/virtualbox-machine-boots-to-efi-shell
[12:50] <dreamon> hmpff → edit: Access Denied
[12:52] <ppq> computer sagt nein
[12:53] <k1l> du musste genau die selber settings in vbox haben, wie du bei der vbox vorher hattest, wenn du die wieder benutzen möchtest
[12:58] <dreamon> k1l, Das hab ich. Vorher war EFI auch aktiviert(auf der alten Kiste).. Das bootete problemlos. Konnte es auch nur mit dieser Option installieren, sonst hätte ich Windows8 nicht installieren können
[13:05] <dreamon> Einen winzigen Sekundenbruchteil sieht man folgende Meldung bevor man in der Uefi shell landet → Fsw ERROR: InstallMultipleProtocolInterfaces Returned 80000002
[13:13] <dreamon> k1l, die Einstellungen sind identisch
[13:14] <dreamon> Rochvellon, Ich muß die Kiste wieder zurückbauen.. und dann kann ich damit experimentieren. Die Daten dürfen mir nicht verloren gehen.
[13:52] <Rochvellon> dreamon: zu der fehlermeldung finde ich auch nichts spezifisches, könnte mir jedoch vorstellen, dass du im bios des boards etwas vergessen hast, zu aktivieren. vllt. wären die jungs von virtualbox der bessere ansprechpartner
[14:40] <stevieh> bin ich der einzige bei dem der acrobat reader in cups nicht mehr druckt? Aber der Rest geht schon am Drucker?
[14:40] <stevieh> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups/+bug/1442877
[14:40] <stevieh> wohl nicht
[15:08] <stevieh> ist die standard ordnerfreigabe in Ubuntu Nautilus wirklich nur für Gastzugriff?
[15:16] <k1l> ich hatte nur mal nen problem mit dem querformat drucken bei evince und so. das hing mit ner lib zusammen.
[18:02] <ub_umstieg> Guten Abend Frage Füher bei Lucid gabs oben in der taskleiste eine ZULEtzt benutzte dokumente Gibt es das bei 14.04 auch
[18:02] <ub_umstieg> unity seitenleiste dash
[18:40] <jokrebel> dreamon: Du solltest lang genug mit PCs unterwegs sein um zu wissen, dass bei "Die Daten dürfen mir nicht verloren gehen" erstmal (endlich) für Backups zu sorgen ist.
[18:45] <dreamon> jokrebel, Was möchtest du mir sagen.? Backup hilft in meinem Fall nicht. Weils auf der neuen Kiste so auch nicht läuft.
[18:47] <jokrebel> dreamon: Ich möchte Dir damit sagen, dass Du mit Deiner Erfahrung normalerweise nicht mit solchen Sätzen kommen solltest, weil Du wissen solltest, dass ein aktuelles Backup ein Pflichtprogram ist.
[18:49] <dreamon> jokrebel, Achso der Satz "Die Daten dürfen mir nicht verloren gehen." Ja das war eine Erfahrung mit der ich niemals gerechnet hätte. Ich kannte das Problem nicht. Wenn ich die Festplatte in eine andere Kiste einbaute, dann lief eigentlich immer alles.
[18:49] <dreamon> Aber dieses Uefi, damit hab ich nicht gerechnet, das hat ich eiskalt erwischt.
[19:06] <Rochvellon> dreamon: und nun? läufts wenigsten im alten rechner?
[19:07] <Rochvellon> oder hast du mal probiert, ob es mit einer neuen installation hinhaut?
[19:07] <dreamon> Rochvellon, Nein. Da tut es nun auch nicht mehr. Und ich weiß nicht warum. Jetzt geht das spiel mit den Backup los. und gleichzeitig werde ich noch eine Reparatur mit der Original CD versuchen.
[19:08] <dreamon> Ich mach jetzt ein Komplett Backup und bau es in die neue Kiste ein und damit kann ich experimentieren.
[19:09] <Rochvellon> dreamon: probiere mal folgendes: erstelle eine neue virtuelle maschine, installiere dort dein w8 hin, nimm anschließend die "alte festplatte" der alten vm und binde die dann in die neue vm ein
[19:10] <dreamon> Im moment läuft noch die 1:1 kopie.. und das dauert noch 30Minuten , dann gehts los.
[19:10] <Rochvellon> oki :)
[19:56] <dreamon> Rochvellon, Ich will gerade neu installieren.. und komme mit aktivierten EFI noch nicht mal die DVD gestartet. glaube das efi in virtualbox hat eins an der Waffel
[20:08] <Rochvellon> dreamon: probier mal #vbox
[20:08] <Rochvellon> oder #vboxger
[20:14] <dreamon> Rochvellon, Jo.
[21:08] <dreamon> Rochvellon, Problem gelöst. PUH
[21:08] <Rochvellon> und was wars?
[21:10] <dreamon> In Virtualbox unter Allgemein. Muß man das Betriebssystem wählen. In meinem Fall muß es Windows8.1(64Bit) sein. kein Windows8(64Bit) oder 32Bit.. oder XP64Bit..
[21:10] <Rochvellon> lol
[21:10] <dreamon> Sonst ballert das Fehler
[21:12] <dreamon> Wenn du 32Bit wählst, dann landest du ständig (bei Aktiviertem EFI) in der EFI Shell und kommst keinen Millimeter weiter
[21:14] <dreamon> Rochvellon, Ein Tag lang Fehlersuche. Aber mit einem Backup im Rücken läßt sich beruhigter suchen :)
[21:25] <uni67catX> können die defekten sektoren/blöcke repariert werden? kann ich festpattenoberfläche "neu lackieren", sodass diese wie neu funktioniert?
[21:28] <ppq> lol
[21:28] <uni67catX> ppq: loly pop loly pop
[21:29] <k1l_> uni67catX: nein. immernoch nicht.
[21:30] <k1l_> und aus erfahrung: wo ein kaputter sektor ist, da kommen ganz schnell neue kaputte dazu. also backup machen und platte in die tonne kloppen
[21:31] <uni67catX> frage war ernst gemeint... angeblich ist meine Scheibe schrott, und ich habe noch eine funke hoffnung, dass es noch einen wunder mittel gibt
[21:31] <uni67catX> vielleicht einen wunder BEFEHL :-)
[21:31] <k1l_> s.o.
[21:32] <uni67catX> misst
[21:34] <uni67catX> wo kauft man heutzutage gute HDDs? empfehlung
[21:36] <k1l_> wo ist egal. was man kauft ist da wichtiger. wobei da eh keiner mehr ausgiebig testet (siehe badewannen kurve). und hdds gehen kaputt. es ist nur die frage ob man vorher noch ein backup gemacht hat
[21:36] <digitaloktay> hab noch eins zum verkauf da
[21:36] <digitaloktay> western digital 2 tb green
[21:37] <uni67catX> habe ich :-) und ich bin mir sogar dessen 100% sicher
[21:37] <digitaloktay> noch verschweißt
[21:38] <uni67catX> passt jede HD in my sony vaio vgn-nr498e rein?
[21:38] <digitaloktay> nein die leider nicht
[21:38] <digitaloktay> ist ja keine laptop hdd ^^
[21:38] <uni67catX> oder ist eine NEU invest lohnender?
[21:40] <uni67catX> digitaloktay: und vielleicht mit hand geknüppelt und mund geblasen... vielleicht danach passt? was meinst du?
[22:01] <bekks> dreamon: Wie im Handbuch von Virtual zu lesen ist, sollte EFI nur und ausschliesslich für OSX VMs verwendet werden.
[22:02] <bekks> *Virtualbox
[22:12] <Rochvellon> und weswegen nur bei osx, bekks?
[22:14] <bekks> Weil nur der von OSX benötigte Teil von UEFI implementiert ist.
[22:15] <Rochvellon> kk
[22:35] <dreamon> bekks, Ich konnte aber Win8 nur installieren, wenn efi aktiviert wurde. sonst hat er die CD ignoriert
[22:41] <bekks> Dann ist deine Konfiguration komisch, denn hier funktioniert das problemlos, ohne UEFI.
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:38.822488
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2015-06-30-#juju-gui
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[06:29] <mhilton> rogpeppe, morning
[06:29] <rogpeppe> mhilton: hiya
[06:29] <mhilton> morning uiream
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:38.825851
| 2015-06-30T00:00:00 |
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"authors": [
"mhilton",
"rogpeppe"
],
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"channel": "#juju-gui"
}
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2015-06-30-#ubuntu-autopilot
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[23:44] <cwayne_> is it possible to load autopilot tests from anywhere other than /home/phablet/autopilot for ubuntu touch?
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:38.826696
| 2015-06-30T00:00:00 |
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2015-06-30-#ubuntu-nz
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[00:39] <ibeardslee> p1n3applePIE
[00:40] <ibeardslee> ahhh shit
[00:42] <ibeardslee> password changed
[00:42] <ibeardslee> carry on, nothing to see here
[00:48] <chilts_> oh dear
[19:17] <ibeardslee> morning
[21:43] <olly> morning
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:38.829578
| 2015-06-30T00:00:00 |
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"chilts_",
"ibeardslee",
"olly"
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"channel": "#ubuntu-nz"
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2015-06-30-#ubuntu-meeting
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[16:00] <rbasak> #startmeeting ubuntu-server-team
[16:00] <rbasak> #topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting
[16:00] <rbasak> No actions from previous meeting
[16:00] <rbasak> #topic Wily Development
[16:00] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Jun 30 16:00:10 2015 UTC. The chair is rbasak. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
[16:00] <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick
[16:00] <rbasak> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WilyWerewolf/ReleaseSchedule
[16:00] <rbasak> Any general Wily Development issues to discuss before we go to the release bugs?
[16:00] <rbasak> #subtopic Release Bugs
[16:00] <rbasak> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-w-tracking-bug-tasks.html#ubuntu-server
[16:01] <rbasak> I see six bugs. Anything in here that needs discussing?
[16:02] <rbasak> #topic Server & Cloud Bugs (caribou)
[16:02] <rbasak> caribou: over to you
[16:02] <caribou> rbasak: nothing on my side for this week
[16:02] <rbasak> OK, thanks.
[16:02] <rbasak> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (matsubara)
[16:02] <rbasak> matsubara: anything from you?
[16:03] <matsubara> hey there, nothing new to report from the smoke test front. I'll be doing verification for bug 1443735 SRU later on today.
[16:03] <matsubara> rbasak, that's all from me.
[16:03] <rbasak> Great, thanks!
[16:03] <matsubara> np
[16:03] <rbasak> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb, sforshee, arges)
[16:03] <smb> No news here is there are no questions / requests...
[16:03] <smb> s/is/if/
[16:03] <rbasak> Does anyone have anything for the kernel team?
[16:04] <rbasak> #topic Upcoming Call For Papers
[16:04] <rharper> \o
[16:05] <rbasak> #topic Ubuntu Server Team Events
[16:05] <rbasak> Nothing? :)
[16:05] <rbasak> #topic Open Discussion
[16:05] <rharper> rbasak: at least for the upcoming papers, the ODS for Tokyo submission is open
[16:06] <rbasak> OK
[16:06] <rbasak> Does anyone have anything planned for ODS?
[16:06] <rharper> I'm sure hallyn will do something with lxd =)
[16:06] <rbasak> I look forward to hearing about it :)
[16:06] <hallyn> uh, yeah
[16:06] <hallyn> no doubt
[16:07] <hallyn> actually i'd assume zul will
[16:07] <rbasak> Anything else for upcoming CFPs, events, or open discussion?
[16:07] <zul> hallyn: erm...yeah
[16:07] <zul> who wouldnt want to go to the future...i mean tokyo
[16:08] <rharper> zul: +1
[16:08] <hallyn> +1
[16:08] <rbasak> #topic Announce next meeting date, time and chair
[16:08] <rbasak> The next meeting will be at Tue Jul 7 16:00:00 UTC 2015
[16:09] <rbasak> matsubara will chair
[16:09] <rbasak> Thanks all
[16:09] <rbasak> #endmeeting
[16:09] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Jun 30 16:09:03 2015 UTC.
[16:09] <meetingology> Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2015/ubuntu-meeting.2015-06-30-16.00.moin.txt
[16:09] <matsubara> thanks rbasak
[16:09] <rharper> rbasak: thanks!
[16:09] <kickinz1> thanks rbasak
[16:10] <caribou> thanks rb
[16:31] <arosales> coreycb: jamespage: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/canonical.com/relation-stubs?authuser=0
[16:31] * arosales forgot to put in the link
[16:32] <coreycb> arosales, was that intended for me?
[16:32] <arosales> sorry meant coryfu
[16:33] <coreycb> arosales, np, I figured
[17:00] <jsalisbury> #startmeeting
[17:00] <jsalisbury> ##
[17:00] <jsalisbury> ## This is the Ubuntu Kernel Team weekly status meeting.
[17:00] <jsalisbury> ##
[17:00] <jsalisbury> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Meeting
[17:00] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Jun 30 17:00:01 2015 UTC. The chair is jsalisbury. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
[17:00] <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick
[17:00] <jsalisbury> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Wily
[17:00] <jsalisbury> # Meeting Etiquette
[17:00] <jsalisbury> #
[17:00] <jsalisbury> # NOTE: '..' indicates that you are finished with your input.
[17:00] <jsalisbury> # 'o/' indicates you have something to add (please wait until you are recognized)
[17:00] <jsalisbury> Roll Call for Ubuntu Kernel Weekly Status Meeting
[17:00] <bjf> o/
[17:00] <cking> o/
[17:00] <smb> \ö
[17:00] <sforshee> o/
[17:00] <kamal> o/
[17:00] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Release Metrics and Incoming Bugs (jsalisbury)
[17:00] <jsalisbury> Release metrics and incoming bug data can be reviewed at the following link:
[17:00] <jsalisbury> [LINK] http://kernel.ubuntu.com/reports/kt-meeting.txt
[17:00] <jsalisbury> ..
[17:01] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Status: CVE's
[17:01] <jsalisbury> The current CVE status can be reviewed at the following link:
[17:01] <jsalisbury> [LINK] http://kernel.ubuntu.com/reports/kernel-cves.html
[17:01] <jsalisbury> ..
[17:01] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Status: Stable, Security, and Bugfix Kernel Updates - Precise/Trusty/Utopic/Vivid (bjf)
[17:01] <bjf> Status for the main kernels, until today:
[17:01] <bjf> * Precise - Verification & Testing
[17:01] <bjf> * Trusty - Verification & Testing
[17:01] <bjf> * Utopic - Verification & Testing
[17:01] <bjf> * Vivid - Verification & Testing
[17:01] <bjf>
[17:01] <bjf> Current opened tracking bugs details:
[17:01] <bjf> * http://kernel.ubuntu.com/sru/kernel-sru-workflow.html
[17:01] <bjf> For SRUs, SRU report is a good source of information:
[17:01] <bjf> * http://kernel.ubuntu.com/sru/sru-report.html
[17:02] <bjf>
[17:02] <bjf>
[17:02] <bjf> Schedule:
[17:02] <bjf>
[17:02] <bjf> cycle: 13-Jun through 04-Jul
[17:02] <bjf> [17:02] <bjf> 12-Jun Last day for kernel commits for this cycle
[17:02] <bjf> 14-Jun - 20-Jun Kernel prep week.
[17:02] <bjf> 21-Jun - 04-Jul Bug verification; Regression testing; Release
[17:02] <bjf> ..
[17:02] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Open Discussion or Questions? Raise your hand to be recognized (o/)
[17:03] <jsalisbury> Thanks everyone
[17:03] <jsalisbury> #endmeeting
[17:03] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Jun 30 17:03:01 2015 UTC.
[17:03] <meetingology> Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2015/ubuntu-meeting.2015-06-30-17.00.moin.txt
[17:03] <kamal> thanks jsalisbury
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ubuntu-chat
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2015-06-30-#ubuntu-tn
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[03:32] <elacheche_anis> d4rk-5c0rp, you're in here o_O
[03:34] <d4rk-5c0rp> elacheche_anis, lé 8adi :D
[03:34] <elacheche_anis> x)
[03:34] <elacheche_anis> Barra or9od ghodwa tikhdim
[03:38] <d4rk-5c0rp> lol
[07:22] <elacheche> o/
[09:41] <xar> elacheche, yo!
[09:41] <hpro> elacheche, hello
[09:41] <xar> elacheche, helloo
[09:43] <elacheche> Hey xar hpro :)
[09:44] <hpro> salit a elacheche
[09:44] <xar> saliitt aaa elacheche
[09:45] <elacheche> ?
[09:45] <elacheche> xar, hpro dawarnéha spam? o_O
[09:46] <hpro> hhhh chwaya jaw :p
[09:46] <elacheche> Not like that hpro xar.. ubuntulog will be angry :)
[09:47] <xar> elacheche, chkoun bech yakrah?
[09:47] <elacheche> I do :) :D
[09:47] <elacheche> Many others read the logs too :)
[09:48] <elacheche> That's why it's a public log :)
[09:48] <xar> w baad kif yrawna nespamiw, chisir?
[09:48] <xar> osef :p :D
[09:49] <elacheche> Nothing, but an OP is supposed to Kick & BAN the spammers
[09:49] <xar> el canal feragh medhabihom akther membres :p
[09:50] <elacheche> Nope :)
[09:50] <elacheche> We're looking for quality not quantity :)
[09:51] <xar> yeziina 3aad :p
[09:51] <xar> ti kolha sekta
[09:51] <xar> ki nespami, ywali feyek el canal
[09:51] <xar> la3bed twali tsebek w twali tetfehem 3la haja
[09:52] <xar> w baad ydo5lou en contact
[09:52] <xar> w ywaliw shab :p
[09:52] <elacheche> Or you can start technical discussions around FOSS & Ubuntu, and you'll have friends as well :)
[09:53] <xar> aad nahki 3la el canal 'ubuntu' 5ir
[09:53] <xar> :p :)
[09:53] <elacheche> Why not :) Go and try that :)
[10:18] <elacheche> Tlamit la7béb x)
[10:18] <elacheche> d4rk-5c0rp, Neo31 SalahMessaoud lunapersa x) :D
[10:18] <SalahMessaoud> GM elacheche o/
[10:18] <lunapersa> :)
[10:18] <d4rk-5c0rp> Neo31, hak mazelet 3eyech :D
[10:19] <SalahMessaoud> GM all
[10:19] <SalahMessaoud> :D
[10:19] <d4rk-5c0rp> hi there
[10:19] <Neo31> ahla elacheche
[10:19] <Neo31> oppan gagnam style
[10:19] <Neo31> haw lunapersa w d4rk-5c0rp lenna
[10:19] <Neo31> :)
[10:19] <lunapersa> dima lena
[10:19] <Neo31> aya mar7bi everyone
[10:20] <Neo31> d4rk-5c0rp, ija a3mal talla #ubuntu-africa
[10:20] <d4rk-5c0rp> ti hani rekech 8adi
[11:44] <elacheche> http://touslesinternets.arte.tv/fr/sujet/20150630-tunisie-nizar-fr
[12:42] <lunapersa> :)
[12:47] <elacheche> Akhenaton, hello
[12:47] <Akhenaton> hello
[12:47] <elacheche> Wassup :) welcome to Tunisia :D
[12:47] <Akhenaton> ty
[12:48] <elacheche> :)
[12:48] <elacheche> Where are you from?
[12:48] <Akhenaton> cameroon
[12:48] <elacheche> Nice to meet you :)
[12:56] <Akhenaton> even me
[13:03] <elacheche> :D
[13:05] <hpro> elacheche, what's new in ubuntu-TN community
[13:06] <elacheche> nothing much.. Just am trying to advance on the 1st draft of our next reapproval application
[14:32] <Neo31> ca roule bien lunapersa ? :)
[14:32] <Neo31> d4rk-5c0rp, mabrouk marra o5ra
[14:32] <Neo31> when is that elacheche ?
[14:32] <elacheche> august Neo31
[14:33] <Neo31> oups
[14:33] <Neo31> ok
[14:33] * elacheche is GOOD too tank you for asking :D
[14:33] <elacheche> :p
[14:33] <Neo31> ping me if u need somethin
[14:33] <elacheche> you count on that Neo31..
[14:33] <Neo31> good
[14:34] * elacheche is GOOD too tank you for asking :D
[14:34] <d4rk-5c0rp> thx Neo31
[14:35] <d4rk-5c0rp> :D
[14:35] <elacheche> 9antarni -_- x(
[14:35] <lunapersa> oui parfait Neo31
[14:39] <Neo31> lol elacheche
[14:40] <Neo31> 5ouk lezim tafra7lou ;)
[14:40] <Neo31> d4rk-5c0rp, #win_elmabrouk
[14:40] <Neo31> lunapersa elacheche m3aya?? d4rk-5c0rp #win_elmabrouk
[14:40] <d4rk-5c0rp> ba7dha il petrole :p
[14:40] <Neo31> rofl
[14:41] <lunapersa> mabrouk te3 chnoa
[14:41] <elacheche> loool.. d4rk-5c0rp pack your bag we're going home
[14:41] * elacheche is going home.. see you tonight, maybe, maybe not
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:38.859102
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2015-06-30-#ubuntu-gnome
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[00:07] <stiv2k> darkxst: 15.04 or 15.10?
[00:08] <darkxst> 15.10 probably best if your doing it in a VM
[00:08] <stiv2k> darkxst: how does one obtain it?
[00:08] <darkxst> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-gnome/daily-live/
[00:08] <stiv2k> cool
[21:55] <stiv2k> darkxst: hi
[22:14] <darkxst> stiv2k, hi
[22:15] <robert_ancell> darkxst, does anyone here work on updating GNOME packages in Debian? We have a bunch of packages in Ubuntu that are newer that would be great if someone wanted to push them into Debian.
[22:17] <darkxst> robert_ancell, Noskcaj does sometimes
[22:18] <darkxst> I should, but have been pretty pressed for time recently
[22:18] <robert_ancell> darkxst, Ah, I was trying to work out Jacksons's handle. Thanks!
[22:18] <Noskcaj> I do occasionally, the lack of sponsorship there means i've been skipping it more than i should
[22:19] <robert_ancell> The speed of Debian is kind of frustrating :(
[22:35] <stiv2k> darkxst: i will basically be re-doing what i did yesterday, only now on my ubuntu 15.10 virtual machine
[22:35] <stiv2k> :)
[22:45] <darkxst> ok, I won't be around much this morning
[23:14] <stiv2k> darkxst: what country?
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:38.861626
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2015-06-30-#ubuntu-server
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[00:28] <adam_g> zul, is there an ETA for liberty1?
[00:30] <zul> adam_g: for CA? or wily?
[00:30] <adam_g> zul, both, i guess?
[00:30] <adam_g> or are they not coupled anymore?
[00:31] <zul> adam_g: uh...should be in the shoot now
[00:31] <adam_g> also, have you run into issues with dh_python2 and requirements.txt constraints like: oslo.messaging!=1.12.0,>=1.8.0 # Apache-2.0
[00:31] <adam_g> the !=1.12.0 breaks something
[00:32] <adam_g> and the pkg ends up with a dependency on 'python-oslo-messaging' and 'python-oslo-messaging-'
[00:32] <adam_g> i had to patch that !=1.12.0 out
[00:32] <adam_g> jamespage, FYI ^
[01:55] <Radar> I'm trying to run apt-get update and I'm seeing Unable to connect to ftp.rz.tu-bs.de. Trying to connect to that in my browser times out as well. How can I choose not to use that site?
[01:56] <teward> Radar: remove it from your sources lists.
[01:56] <teward> check /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* and wherever that source shows up put a # at the beginning of the line
[01:56] <teward> (you will need sudo to edit those files)
[01:56] <Radar> teward: that's made difficult by this being a Docker image.
[02:52] <Redfoxie> is anyone on?
[02:56] <Redfoxie> im running into a ticky issue with ubuntu server 14.04.2 thats making it impossible to install. Im using a memory stick that I have tried formating as fat32 and ntfs as well as put the os on via netbootin and dd I ether run into an issue where it says a cd is not located to do the install and when i manually mount the memory stick to media it is saying a file in pool is unable to be locaed
[03:23] <Redfoxie> im back
[03:23] <Redfoxie> looks like at the moment im running into a md5sum issue
[03:24] <Redfoxie> before that it was claiming it couldnt mount a cdrom so i attempted to have the memory stick be mounted in media/cdrom and i ran into an issue where it could not locate a file in the pool driectory
[04:22] <jak2000> http://pastie.org/10265431 <--- line8 this hard disk of 4tb formated with mkfs ext4 i want repartitioning (create 4 partitions 1tb each one) how do this? andof course mount each partition in /etc/fstab file how do it?
[05:01] <jak2000> http://pastie.org/10265449
[05:01] <jak2000> now for format: mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdb2p1 right?
[05:01] <jak2000> the device apparently does not exist; did you specify it correctly?
[05:01] <jak2000> Could not stat /dev/sdb2p1 --- No such file or directory
[05:01] <jak2000> any advice for format my partition?
[05:52] <nayKang> how to capture child out in shell
[06:04] <bero88> Hi there, My server is suddenly giving me this message , error :hdd0,1 out of disk
[06:04] <bero88> grub rescue:
[06:15] <bero88> Please just tell me what to look for, My server is suddenly giving me this message , error :hdd0,1 out of disk grub rescue:
[06:44] <jezeniel> Is upgrading the kernel will avoid the problems cause by the leap second?
[06:51] <TJ-> jezeniel: what problems?
[06:52] <jezeniel> TJ-: problems that will happen when the leap second happened.
[06:52] <jezeniel> or happens rather*
[06:52] <TJ-> jezeniel: what problems?
[06:52] <TJ-> jezeniel: what applications are you using that are leap-second sensitive?
[06:54] <jezeniel> TJ-: i am just asking if my deployed ubuntu servers will still be affected by this,
[06:55] <TJ-> jezeniel: And I asked which applications you are using that are time-sensitive?
[06:57] <TJ-> jezeniel: so far as I know, with most recent releases, the only direct impact may be for NTP, As long as the timezone data packages are up-to-date that should take care of inserting the leap second
[06:58] <TJ-> jezeniel: Other than that, it's down to the individual applications as to whether they might do something unexpected
[08:15] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:44] <jamespage> coreycb, zul: start of documentation for git packaging workflow
[08:44] <jamespage> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/OpenStackPackaging
[08:44] <jamespage> coreycb, can you add some stuff on pushing your own repo and proposing a change?
[10:09] <rbasak> tekzilla: sorry, had a ton of requests come in yesterday. Now chased.
[10:12] <rbasak> ^^ uh, teward
[12:19] <teward> rbasak: ack, i saw your email today
[12:45] <coreycb> jamespage, I updated the wiki. I wonder if there's an easier way to propose a merge.
[12:52] <jamespage> coreycb, did you?
[12:52] * jamespage looks
[12:52] <coreycb> jamespage, I should save that
[12:52] <jamespage> coreycb, +1
[12:52] <jamespage> :-)
[12:53] <coreycb> jamespage, done :)
[12:55] <coreycb> jamespage, have you ever hit this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/11798943/
[12:56] <coreycb> the existing version of python-cliff gets that in wily, so I assume it's a dep issue wit pbr or something else
[12:56] <coreycb> with
[13:51] <arcsky> hello im trying to install ubuntu server from USB. it does work to boot up but after keyboard settings it search for "detec and mount CD-ROM" .. why that when if ddo this from USB ?
[14:38] <teward> rbasak: the only thing missing in your email to the release team is, we could technically do nothing for Wily and leave 1.6.x in there
[14:39] <rbasak> teward: good point.
[14:39] <teward> then i deal with the complaints later saying "We missed the freeze date for the merges, sorry!" and blame whatever we want... xD
[14:39] <teward> rbasak: although i think there'll be more complaints with that method, it's still an option if the release team doesn't get back to us by wily featurefreeze or finalfreeze
[14:44] <teward> rbasak: i may follow up your email with a chaser one saying that's an option, but only for Wily, if only to follow up your message with the other lesser-desirable option :P
[14:57] <rbasak> dannf: sorry I didn't reply yesterday. No specific person - chase away. They have a daily rota I think.
[14:58] <rbasak> looks like RAOF is on the hook today.
[14:58] <dannf> rbasak: ok, cool
[15:01] <dannf> rbasak: where's the right place to poke btw?
[15:01] <dannf> lp team list?
[15:01] <rbasak> dannf: #ubuntu-release I think.
[15:02] <teward> rbasak: i also replied to your email and gave my two cents, especially that while it's an undesirable option, it's available for Wily, so long as we decide on the exemptions or what not for X (16.04)
[15:03] <rbasak> dannf: for stuff that is priority inside Canonical, it's not uncommon to ask my team's manager to go across the company to find an SRU team member who is also a Canonical employee to do it.
[15:03] <rbasak> (or your manager perhaps in this case)
[16:04] <slowe> Is there a place/mechanism in 14.04 that caches network configuration? I'm seeing a situation where changing interface files is still leaving fragments of the old configuration behind.
[16:04] <slowe> I won't rule out that I'm doing something wrong, of course. :-)
[16:10] <slowe> Found the answer (including it here in case anyone else needs it)---need to be sure to run "ip addr flush dev <device>" after changing configurations (after "ifdown <dev>" and before "ifup <dev>")
[16:50] <dine909> i have a problem with a uart port
[16:51] <dine909> ugh i cant even explain it
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:38.867207
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2015-06-30-#ubuntu-tam
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[08:09] <mrprajesh> Hi anyone there?
[08:12] <mrprajesh> are we doing tamil translations now..
[08:12] <mrprajesh> is it saturated or unused?
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:38.868341
| 2015-06-30T00:00:00 |
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2015-06-30-#ubuntu-ci-eng
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[01:00] <fginther> bfiller, in case you didn't already see this: http://s-jenkins.ubuntu-ci:8080/view/click/job/gallery-app-click/263/artifact/out/com.ubuntu.gallery_2.9.1.1205_armhf.click
[01:00] <fginther> bfiller, from http://s-jenkins.ubuntu-ci:8080/view/click/job/gallery-app-click/263/
[02:52] <bfiller> fginther: thanks
[06:18] <bzoltan_> robru: do you know who should I ask if need help to make jenkins doing its job instead of blocking the integration?
[06:19] <robru> bzoltan_: which Jenkins? You need cihelp for anything other than ci-train.u.c
[06:20] <robru> bzoltan_: oh you mean the mp reviews? Yeah you need cihelp for that
[06:21] <robru> bzoltan_: i would recommend disabling that for train projects since it has no ability to handle deps across multiple MPs
[06:25] <bzoltan_> robru: good point
[06:37] <bzoltan_> robru: is there a separare channel for that or it should be a highlight here?
[06:38] <robru> bzoltan_: this is the spot, i don't know if any ci people are around just yet though. Maybe wait a few hours
[06:42] <bzoltan_> robru: OK, I will ping fginther or elopio or anybody who hears the cihelp call :)
[06:43] <robru> bzoltan_: Francis is us time, that might be a wait. Ev is uk, should be sooner
[06:43] <thomi> robru: ev is us too. psivaa is UK
[06:44] <robru> Ooh right
[06:44] <bzoltan_> robru: thomi: would be nice to have a GMT+N (N>=1) cihelper
[06:44] <robru> I forgot he moved to Houston
[06:44] <robru> Austin
[06:44] <thomi> bzoltan_: psivaa
[06:44] <robru> That place we just were ;-)
[07:46] <ogra_> hmpf
[07:46] <ogra_> http://i.imgur.com/B1bX5SO.png
[07:46] <ogra_> i assume this shouldnt actually be possible :P
[07:48] <jibel> I saw it once and some else reported it too (don't remember who though)
[08:06] <psivaa> bzoltan_: hey
[08:06] <psivaa> Which is the MP being blocked by jenkins?
[08:06] <bzoltan_> psivaa: good morning, we have all kinds of problems with Jenkins... most of our MRs do not pass jenkins
[08:07] <bzoltan_> psivaa: almost all of them https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+activereviews
[08:07] <psivaa> bzoltan_: morning, let me take a look
[08:07] <bzoltan_> psivaa: this one I would like to land most https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/qtmacros/+merge/259477
[08:09] * zbenjamin looks
[08:10] <zbenjamin> psivaa: seems some tests (always different ones) can not get a Mir connection
[08:12] <psivaa> bzoltan_: zbenjamin: yea as you said they are actual test failures, (albeit different ones) not related to the infrastructure
[08:13] <psivaa> so we'd not be able to do anything to fix them
[08:13] <psivaa> but if you want them the whole test to be disabled, we could do that
[08:13] <zbenjamin> psivaa: i wonder how can not getting a mir connection be a test failure?
[08:14] <zbenjamin> this one for example https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/generic-deb-autopilot-runner-vivid-mako/2765/testReport/junit/ubuntuuitoolkit.tests.gallery.test_textinput/WriteAndClearTextInputTestCase/test_clear_textfield_must_remove_text_Nexus_4_standard_textfield_/
[08:15] <zbenjamin> psivaa: especially this MR fails always with that error, but always in different tests
[08:17] <zbenjamin> psivaa: or am i missing something?
[08:17] <psivaa> zbenjamin: if that (not getting mir connection) is causing an autopilot test to fail and the process depends on that test to pass for the MP to be merged.
[08:17] <psivaa> zbenjamin: i dont know the depth of how this *test works and we in CI wont be able to debug that
[08:18] <zbenjamin> :(
[08:18] <psivaa> zbenjamin: the process depended on each of the tests to pass so that has to be debugged by someone with in-depth knowledge of the tests
[08:19] <psivaa> zbenjamin: sorry if I coming across straight, :), still haviing my first coffee
[08:19] <psivaa> zbenjamin: do you by chance run the tests locally ?
[08:19] <psivaa> on a mako?
[08:19] <zbenjamin> bzoltan_: ^^ there is a script for that right?
[08:20] <ogra_> bzoltan_, oh, just FYI, sil2100 manages the metapackages nowadays (i saw the discussion in the other channel)
[08:21] <bzoltan_> ogra_: Good to know. Thank you.
[08:21] <bzoltan_> zbenjamin: the test plan script can run UITK AP tests of course
[08:22] <zbenjamin> bzoltan_: the script also might need to adapt to the new build structure?
[08:23] <bzoltan_> zbenjamin: what new build structre? Why?
[08:23] <bzoltan_> psivaa: sorry I missed to understand the Mir display issue... how is that not an infrastructure problem?
[08:24] <bzoltan_> psivaa: zbenjamin: I am running dozens of times the UITK AP tests locally on krillin and never seen that failure.
[08:24] <zbenjamin> bzoltan_: because the plugins are now compiled into a folder named "qml" and not "modules"
[08:24] <zbenjamin> bzoltan_: thats a result from using the qt macros
[08:25] <bzoltan_> zbenjamin: so? how does that effect the test plan?
[08:26] <zbenjamin> bzoltan_: well i assumed its using the push_to_phone script. But maybe not :D
[08:26] <bzoltan_> zbenjamin: absolutely not
[08:26] <psivaa> bzoltan_: sorry, what should we in the infrastructure, do to fix 'Mir display issue'
[08:26] <zbenjamin> bzoltan_: ok then just forget what i said :D
[08:26] <psivaa> i'm putting this in quote is because that's all what i understand :)
[08:27] <bzoltan_> psivaa: no idea ... I do not see it locally
[08:27] <psivaa> bzoltan_: also do you run this test on Mako?
[08:27] <bzoltan_> psivaa: no
[08:27] <bzoltan_> psivaa: we work on OTA updates what target bq devices
[08:28] <psivaa> bzoltan_: ok, so running these tests in mako do not make much sense
[08:28] <psivaa> ?
[08:28] <bzoltan_> psivaa: sense it might make ... but it would not be enough to pass the QA validation
[08:29] <psivaa> bzoltan_: if that's the case, we'd need to get an agreement if
[08:29] <psivaa> 1. we should disable the tests on Mako
[08:29] <psivaa> 2. Fix the tests for mako even though the target is BQ
[08:30] <psivaa> 3. Change the devices to krillin
[08:30] <bzoltan_> psivaa: 3.
[08:30] <bzoltan_> psivaa: testing changes on mako has value ... but blocking landings on krillin because of mako does not sound good to me
[08:31] <psivaa> I'd need to discuss 3 with the team, but especially whilst we're in the process of moving away from a single entity running all the product/ project tests towards each team, i'm not sure if that will be done in time
[08:31] <bzoltan_> psivaa: do you think the same tests would pass on krillin?
[08:31] <psivaa> bzoltan_: I thought that's what you said above :)
[08:31] <psivaa> ' I am running dozens of times the UITK AP tests locally on krillin and never seen that failure.'
[08:32] <bzoltan_> psivaa: I strongly doubt that the only difference between the Jenkins testing is the device type :)
[08:32] <psivaa> bzoltan_: but that's all we in CI have control over :)
[08:32] <bzoltan_> psivaa: but I find it very very strange that the CI infra is not testing on the primary target device
[08:33] <bzoltan_> psivaa: what would it take to replace those makos with krillins?
[08:34] <psivaa> bzoltan_: (whilst running the risk of discussing something which I do not think will happen soon, due to change of focus as i said above)
[08:34] <psivaa> we'd need more krillins
[08:34] <bzoltan_> psivaa: anyhow... right now running AP tests on UITK MRs does not make much sense as I am doing super massive 4 time full AP tests before landings.
[08:35] <bzoltan_> psivaa: The UITK test plan covers more AP test than any QA/CI process ...
[08:35] <psivaa> bzoltan_: ok, shall we disable that then?
[08:35] <bzoltan_> psivaa: we run _all_ available AP tests ...
[08:36] <bzoltan_> psivaa: temporally I would do that
[08:36] <bzoltan_> zbenjamin: ^ are you OK with that?
[08:37] <zbenjamin> bzoltan_: psivaa: +1
[08:37] <psivaa> bzoltan_: zbenjamin: ok, i'll work on it then
[08:37] <bzoltan_> psivaa: Thank you a bunch!
[08:37] <zbenjamin> \o/
[08:37] <psivaa> zbenjamin: bzoltan_: thanks for the info
[08:39] <bzoltan_> psivaa: at the same time I will enforce the QA process of the UITK project. It means we will do more tests on our staging branch.
[08:40] <psivaa> bzoltan_: that sounds great
[08:51] <popey> sil2100: on todays image on krillin and arale, neither of them will stop buzzing after a notification...
[08:51] <popey> having to restart both phones to shut them up
[08:52] <sil2100> popey: oh, hm, let me check the commitlog on what landed
[08:52] <popey> brb
[08:53] <sil2100> popey: yeah, looks like we had unity-notifications landing
[08:53] <sil2100> "Make unity8 notifications server more robust against misbehaving clients"
[08:54] * sil2100 waits for pete-woods
[08:55] <popey> ok
[08:55] <popey> want a bug filed?
[08:57] <sil2100> popey: yeah, please, might use that if I want to revert it
[08:57] <sil2100> Thanks!
[08:57] <popey> ok will do
[09:05] <jibel> popey, after a calendar notification or any notification?
[09:08] <oSoMoN> trainguards: hey, I need to reconfigure silo 16 to target both wily and vivid overlay, can someone do that for me please?
[09:17] <sil2100> oSoMoN: you mean, you want it to be a dual-landing silo, right?
[09:17] <oSoMoN> sil2100, yes
[09:17] <psivaa> bzoltan_: just one more question, do you only want the AP tests to be disabled in mako or even in amd64 as well?
[09:17] <sil2100> oSoMoN: on it
[09:18] <oSoMoN> thakns
[09:18] <oSoMoN> thanks
[09:18] <sil2100> oSoMoN: done!
[09:19] <oSoMoN> sil2100, thanks
[09:19] <popey> jibel: calender here
[09:25] <popey> sil2100: jibel bug 1470031
[09:26] <mzanetti> sil2100, hey, did you have a chance to look into the wily builds?
[09:26] <mzanetti> still failing it seems
[09:27] <jibel> popey, did you file a bug? I saw that last week but don't remember if it was with or without the silo
[09:27] <popey> see above :)
[09:27] <popey> I am not on any silos, unmodified largely.
[09:28] <jibel> popey, heh sorry :)
[09:34] <bzoltan_> psivaa: on mako as start ... if I start to see green Jenkins jobs then the amd64 can stay
[09:34] <sil2100> mzanetti: I think for this one we'll need some LP/builder specialists
[09:34] <psivaa> bzoltan_: ack, that's what i've done, MP waiting for approval. thanks
[09:35] <sil2100> cjwatson, wgrant: could you help us with something? We have https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-017 that seems to fail to build basically all its packages stating that dependencies couldn't be met
[09:35] <sil2100> While the new packages don't even change their dependencies
[09:36] <psivaa> bzoltan_: zbenjamin: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/qtmacros/+merge/259477 is now green ( from a manual run skipping mako tests)
[09:37] <jibel> sil2100, I confirm popey's bug, very likey silo 18 that landed yesterday
[09:37] <bzoltan_> psivaa: \o/
[09:37] <sil2100> jibel: could you try reverting qtdeclarative5-unity-notifications-plugin to 0.1.2+15.04.20141104-0ubuntu1 ?
[09:37] <jibel> sil2100, on it
[09:38] <cjwatson> sil2100: Looking
[09:38] <cjwatson> Yikes
[09:38] <cjwatson> sbuild: warning: can't parse dependency g++-4.9:native
[09:39] <cjwatson> So there are two possible fixes for this
[09:39] <cjwatson> One is a thing I'm working on today anyway, to have sbuild use apt-get build-dep - it's non-trivial because it requires rearranging how we detect dep-waits
[09:40] <cjwatson> The other is to have sbuild strip the qualifier there, which I kind of thought it already did
[09:40] <cjwatson> Let me have a look at why the latter isn't working
[09:40] <sil2100> cjwatson: thanks! hah, actually with the new output I somehow missed this particular error
[09:40] <sil2100> The output is too clean for me and it confuses me
[09:42] <cjwatson> I wonder if precise's libdpkg-perl is too old for this
[09:53] <cjwatson> wgrant: Right, so precise's dpkg is lacking https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/dpkg/dpkg.git/commit/scripts/Dpkg/Deps.pm?id=40d51dc36b2375679a00ed9ff64ee017dc78b0a9, possibly other related things. I propose we hack the precise sbuild backport to strip off architecture qualifiers before deps_parse sees them. Any objections?
[09:53] <cjwatson> We wouldn't have seen this in PPA testing, of course.
[09:53] <cjwatson> (because trusty)
[09:55] <wgrant> cjwatson: Argh.
[09:55] <wgrant> But sounds like the best solution.
[09:55] <jibel> sil2100, I confirm that it's a regression introduced by silo 18
[09:56] <sil2100> jibel: ok, best way is to soft-revert and poke pete for a real fix
[09:56] <sil2100> Let me prepare everything, would need to revert it for both archives
[09:57] * rvr tested silo 18, not happy :-/
[09:59] <rvr> popey: Good catch
[09:59] <popey> np
[10:01] <jibel> sil2100, can you rebuild an image once it is reverted?
[10:01] <sil2100> Sure
[10:01] <jibel> thanks
[10:10] <cjwatson> mzanetti: I think I have a patch, just setting up a suitable test environment
[10:10] <sil2100> cjwatson: thanks \o/
[10:12] <mzanetti> cjwatson, awesome! thanks a lot!
[10:23] <sil2100> jibel: the revert is building in the overlay and archive, will be tracking once it's done and kick an image
[11:10] <sil2100> jibel: the image is building
[11:36] <cjwatson> wgrant: Could you review http://paste.ubuntu.com/11798585/, please?
[11:36] <cjwatson> Seems to work here, tested with unity-api from that silo.
[11:39] <cjwatson> The regex is basically the start of the one from Dpkg::Deps.
[11:42] <wgrant> cjwatson: Looks sane to me, as long as it also works.
[11:43] <cjwatson> Thanks.
[12:05] <popey> sil2100: do we not have an image bot anymore?
[12:06] <sil2100> popey: it's not working right now
[12:06] <ogra_> well, it could tell you about old images ...
[12:06] <ogra_> but thats about it ... the re-swetting of the image versions caused quite some havoc i havent found time to fix
[12:10] <cjwatson> mzanetti,sil2100: https://rt.admin.canonical.com/Ticket/Display.html?id=82496, shouldn't be long now
[12:11] <sil2100> cjwatson: thanks for that!
[12:12] <mzanetti> great :)
[12:17] <cjwatson> mzanetti: Um, I didn't say you could rebuild yet :)
[12:17] <mzanetti> cjwatson, sorry, I triggered the rebuild before your last messages
[12:18] <cjwatson> mzanetti: Also, don't rebuild it like that.
[12:18] <cjwatson> mzanetti: Unless you were actually making source changes.
[12:18] <mzanetti> didn't know I get those nice status updates so I thought I just retry every couple of hours
[12:18] <mzanetti> cjwatson, how should I build then?
[12:18] <mzanetti> or rather: what exactly is the difference?
[12:19] <cjwatson> mzanetti: When it's upgraded, I'll retry it for you in the PPA, without needing a new source upload (which is what the "Build" button in the train amounts to)
[12:19] <mzanetti> ohh. that makes sense
[12:19] <mzanetti> ack
[13:08] <brendand> sil2100, when was the last image built?
[13:08] <brendand> sil2100, for vivid
[13:08] <brendand> actually let me check the image server
[13:09] <brendand> this morning
[13:10] <jibel> brendand, there was one this morning and another is currently buildiong
[13:10] <brendand> jibel, how do you find if one is in progress? my connection is not reliable so i often miss the pings here
[13:11] <jibel> brendand, because sil2100 said so 2 hours ago
[13:11] <jibel> brendand, otherwise https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cdimage/+livefs/ubuntu/vivid/ubuntu-touch/
[13:12] <jibel> you can trust this more than what I say :)
[13:30] <sil2100> I was building an image in the morning, it should be in the channel
[13:43] <psivaa> bzoltan_: the change to disable the touch tests on UITK has landed in the infra. if you re-run any failed MP, they should pass
[13:48] <cjwatson> mzanetti,sil2100: That's all fixed for you now, PPA builds retried, and ci-train is doing a watch-only build
[13:51] <sil2100> \o/
[13:53] <mzanetti> cjwatson, thank!
[13:53] <mzanetti> +s
[13:54] <cjwatson> mzanetti: also, it may be relevant to your interests that :native now works in recipes, as of a day or two ago
[13:54] <mzanetti> cjwatson, that is interesting indeed. thanks for that too :)
[13:54] <cjwatson> no more pbuilder in recipe builds! phew
[14:21] <kenvandine> 2015-06-30 14:20:34,372 ERROR Uncaught exception: ServerNotFoundError: Unable to find the server at api.launchpad.net
[14:21] <kenvandine> trainguards: ^^ tried to rebuild a silo
[14:22] <kenvandine> citrain isn't happy
[14:34] <sil2100> hmmmm
[14:34] <sil2100> kenvandine: could you re-try?
[14:35] <kenvandine> sure, i'll re-try again
[14:35] <kenvandine> sil2100, boom
[14:35] <kenvandine> socket.gaierror: [Errno -2] Name or service not known
[14:40] <sil2100> uuuh
[14:40] <sil2100> Some network issues on the jenkins server it seems
[14:49] <mzanetti> /subscribe to when this is resolved ^ :)
[14:50] <cjwatson> sil2100: being chased in #is-outage internal
[14:50] <cjwatson> general DNS problem in PS4.5
[14:50] <sil2100> cjwatson: hah, just asked on #webops, thanks ;)
[14:56] <cjwatson> sil2100: should be fixed now, you can retry stuff
[14:57] <sil2100> Yay
[15:04] <brendand> ogra_, sil2100 - it seems that -updates and -security are in the sources.list for these vivid images, but not used during the build?
[15:04] <sil2100> They should
[15:05] <brendand> sil2100, that's what pitti tells me
[15:05] <sil2100> Interesting, the build config doesn't have anything specific that would say it's like that
[15:06] <ogra_> brendand, they definitely shoudl eb used ...
[15:06] <ogra_> unless someone explicitly hacked them out in livecd-rootfs ... which i dont think happened
[15:09] <brendand> ogra_, ok i'm trying to figure out why i have oxide-qt-codecs-extra 1.7.8 installed, but 1.7.9 is in -security
[15:09] <brendand> i mean -updates
[15:10] <brendand> ogra_, i just moments ago did the image update
[15:10] <ogra_> had it migrated already when the image was built ?
[15:10] <ogra_> s/was built/started building/
[15:15] <brendand> ogra_, that's one possibility
[15:16] <brendand> ogra_, pitti pointed me to - https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/oxide-qt/1.7.9-0ubuntu0.15.04.1
[15:16] <brendand> ogra_, that was last week
[15:30] * sil2100 goes lay down for a while
[15:39] <boiko> trainguards: can I get the telepathy-qt5 package removed from silo 39? it has already landed in wily
[15:56] <bfiller> trainguards: silo 6 can be freed and I need a silo for line 62 please
[16:02] <bzoltan_> psivaa: thank you
[16:14] <brendand> ogra_, sil2100 - would it be okay to ask for another vivid image build? this oxide landing is giving us bother
[16:14] <ogra_> brendand, well, someone should check the log and see if -security is actually enabled during builds ...
[16:15] <brendand> ogra_, who would be able to do that?
[16:15] <ogra_> i guess someone who has time :P
[16:16] <ogra_> (dunno if we have anyone who is responsible for phone image builds already, i can perhaps look later but i dont plan to do a long day today)
[16:23] <cjwatson> mzanetti: ^- that looks like an actual failure this time
[16:23] <mzanetti> looking
[16:23] <cjwatson> mzanetti: if you think it's transient we can retry just that one build
[16:24] <mzanetti> cjwatson, indeed
[16:24] <mzanetti> no, it's a test failure
[16:35] <brendand> ogra_, i'd do it myself but i don't even know where the logs are
[16:36] <ogra_> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cdimage/+livefs/ubuntu/vivid/ubuntu-touch perhaps
[16:37] <brendand> ogra_, ok then it does appear to be using -updates and -security
[16:37] <ogra_> Get:44 http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/ vivid-security/main liboxideqtcore0 armhf 1.7.8-0ubuntu0.15.04.1 [21.3 MB]
[16:37] <brendand> go build go!
[16:38] <brendand> ogra_, that's looking like it was a timing issue. i think it migrated only 3 hours ago
[16:38] <brendand> ogra_, perhaps during that build
[16:38] <ogra_> well, at least it is definitely pulling the packages from -security
[16:39] <brendand> ogra_, yep so we can do a build
[16:40] <popey> sil2100: I'd like to request a debian package be added to the phone, how do I do that these days?
[16:40] <ogra_> popey, file an MP against the seed and point sil2100 to it
[16:40] <ogra_> oh, wiat
[16:40] <ogra_> no seed :P
[16:40] <popey> :)
[16:40] <popey> glad I asked
[16:41] <ogra_> i guess then by simply asking sil2100 :)
[16:41] <ogra_> (or via a bug ... to prevent typos of the package name )
[16:42] <popey> haha, that's the voice of experience.
[16:42] <popey> filed against what?
[16:44] <ogra_> ubuntu-touch-meta
[16:44] <popey> kk
[16:47] * popey tickles sil2100 with https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-touch-meta/+bug/1470166
[16:47] <popey> should keep studio_ happy :)
[16:47] <ogra_> oh man ... how many deps does that pull in ?
[16:47] <ogra_> did anyone check ?
[16:51] * popey will add some detail to the bug :)
[16:51] <pmcgowan> uh oh
[16:51] * ogra_ has no intention to make studio_ happy ... where would be the fun in that :P
[16:51] <popey> spoilsport
[16:52] <popey> After this operation, 31.0 MB of additional disk space will be used.
[16:52] <popey> tiny :)
[16:53] <ogra_> rrright ... tiny ...
[16:53] <ogra_> i guess thats a bottle of mccallan 18 for pmcgowan to get that in
[16:53] <pmcgowan> ooo
[16:54] <popey> python 2.7 :S
[16:54] <ogra_> we need a "bribes" field in LP bugs ;)
[16:54] <popey> hah
[16:54] <ogra_> awww
[16:55] <davmor2> popey: no no, not landing no python 2.7 on phone
[16:55] <ogra_> python 2.7 is rather a no ...
[16:55] <popey> right, so how do we do this then
[16:55] <popey> (I prefer solutions then flat out 'no')
[16:55] <popey> and no, "snappy fixes this" is not a solution I accept :)
[16:56] <ogra_> obey !
[16:56] <ogra_> :)
[16:56] <popey> :)
[16:56] <davmor2> popey: but but but but "Snappy fixes everything"!!!!!!! ogra_ said so
[16:56] <popey> fact is someone using a converged device is quite likely to want this
[16:56] <ogra_> well, i guess you ask slangasek if foundations could work on porting libsmbclient to python 3
[16:56] <popey> be good to test this _before_ then
[16:57] <cjwatson> popey: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=781913
[16:57] <popey> thanks cjwatson
[16:57] <ogra_> ha !
[16:57] <popey> "yay"
[16:58] * popey goes outside to eat. will come back when the flames die down.
[17:00] <davmor2> popey: man you I love the fact that you know you are going to combust in the heat of outside but you are still doing it ;)
[17:07] <charles> trainguards, ^ yes, please
[17:08] <robru> charles: silo 41
[17:08] <charles> robru, thanks
[17:08] <robru> charles: you're welcome!
[17:25] <charles> on it
[17:57] <bfiller> robru: I don't need silo 6 anymore so it can be freed
[17:59] <charles> ...2.0.0+15.10.20150619.1-0ubuntu1 is the current version number for 15.04...?
[17:59] <charles> ah
[18:00] <robru> charles: hm?
[18:01] <charles> robru, fixable on my end, I think it's an MR error -- this should be going into the 15.04 branch but was MRed for trunk
[18:01] <robru> charles: ah ok
[18:04] <charles> robru, well actually, since we're still testing it, maybe the shorter path would be to switch line 64 from vivid to wily...
[18:05] <robru> charles: can do
[18:05] <charles> looks like that's doable via Landing Tools
[18:07] <robru> charles: yep, I made some changes recently so that you're able to take care of that yourself. but I just did it already so don't worry
[18:07] <charles> robru, :-)
[23:32] <karni> ping tranguards - I'd like to have Telegram re-QA'ed, we've updated translations (which has been the only comment from last QA pass, as the scope was missing some strings)
[23:33] <karni> (FTR I'm off on Wednesday)
[23:49] <robru> karni: you'll need to ping qa about that, ask jibel.
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2015-06-30-#ubuntu-translators
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[09:50] <karni> dpm: do you know German :D?
[09:50] <dpm> karni, I do, but if it's for translation, I'd rather leave the task to the translation teams :) What's up?
[09:51] <karni> We're missing 3 important translations :( https://goo.gl/JyPW0z
[09:51] <karni> I'm blocked on translations.. first time in my lifetime haha
[10:12] <dpm> karni, perhaps send another reminder on the ubuntu-translators mailing list, CC'ing [email protected] ?
[10:12] <karni> Thanks
[18:37] <phillip> karni: hi
[18:37] <karni> hi phillip, how's it going :)
[18:38] <phillip> I'm in the ubuntu german translations review team so if you need something ping me :)
[18:38] <karni> phillip: on fantastic, thank you :)!
[18:39] <phillip> we also have an irc channel #ubuntu-de-l10n
[18:39] <karni> we got the 3 missing strings ("the important ones") translated after my second e-mail, so we're set for now :)
[18:39] <karni> phillip: gotcha :)
[18:39] <karni> thank you
[18:40] <phillip> I have also made some translations for the scopes, someone just need to review them :)
[18:41] <karni> I'll forward that message, thank you very much :)!
[18:41] <karni> phillip: or rather.. should someone from the 'de' team review them actually?
[18:41] <karni> I guess that would make sense?
[18:41] <phillip> karni: yeah
[18:45] <phillip> karni: so they are not so complicated so we can maybe wait a few days and if no one review I can also approve them, okey? Or do you want to have them now?
[18:46] <karni> phillip: I believe all Telegram's scope are already translated/reviewed, if you're asking about the others -- whichever makes more sense. To be honest I'm quite new to translations so not sure what's the best strategy. But I do know we very much appreciate the work our fantastic community is doing :)
[18:52] <phillip> karni: ok, will be done soon, I found someone to review them :)
[18:52] <karni> :))
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ubuntu-chat
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2015-06-30-#ubuntu-si
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[05:26] <napsy> jutro
[07:27] <zdobbie> GUTEN MORGEN CIA
[07:28] <napsy> saluti
[07:48] <napsy> dz0ny: ping
[07:48] <dz0ny> napsy: pong
[07:49] <napsy> sory ko te to spet sprasujem, um tist tool za versioning ko si ze zadnjic omenu, kok se imenuje? :)
[07:49] <napsy> zmer pozabim
[07:49] <dz0ny> ansible
[07:49] <napsy> tocn ja, thx :)
[08:24] <idioterna> versioning? :)
[08:24] <idioterna> a infrastructure as code :)
[09:52] <CrazyLemon> https://slo-tech.com/novice/t647089
[09:59] <CrazyLemon> oo pa danes je leap second day!
[09:59] <napsy> wohoo
[09:59] <napsy> kdaj pa se zgodi?
[10:01] <CrazyLemon> The next leap second will be introduced in UTC on 30 June 2015 at UTC 23:59:60.
[10:02] <napsy> ah cez 13 ur
[11:11] <CrazyLemon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BM0oQIRIyrs
[11:11] <Pepelka> Brumotti - Road Bike Freestyle 2 - YouTube
[11:11] <Pepelka> »Vittorio Brumotti does it again! Road Bike Freestyle 2 shows the Italian trials superstar taking it up a notch on a road bike. Follow GCN on YouTube: http://...«
[11:38] <Pepelka> [Ubuntu Security] USN-2652-1: Oxide vulnerabilities http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2652-1/
[12:19] <zdobbie> devictorylanxus
[12:19] <jabuk> http://www.artschoolgeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/h7E4B96E6.jpeg
[12:22] <CrazyLemon> how witty you are!
[12:22] <CrazyLemon> in ne ne bom popravu victory regex :)
[12:22] <jabuk> http://img.pandawhale.com/86036-victory-dance-gif-Despicable-M-EPnS.gif
[12:36] <jabuk> M 1.6 > 17.km SV od HUMINA (GEMONA DEL FRIULI, ITALI @30/06/2015 01:39:47 https://maps.google.com/?q=46.42+N,+13.23+E
[12:36] <jabuk> M 1.1 > 9.km SV od ŠENTJERNEJA @29/06/2015 20:00:03 https://maps.google.com/?q=45.9+N,+15.41+E
[12:58] <zdobbie> vvvvictoryyyyyaaaaa
[12:58] <jabuk> http://jeffatom.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/winston-churchill-says-we-deserve-victory.jpg
[13:05] <CrazyLemon> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/06/30/worlds_best_vpns_fall_flat_in_security_tests/
[13:05] <Pepelka> VPNs are so insecure you might as well wear a KICK ME sign • The Register
[13:05] <Pepelka> »Brit boffins' test of 14 prominent privacy tunnels finds leaks galore thanks to IPv6 mess«
[13:09] <zdobersek> no ipv6 leaks for me
[13:09] <napsy> thats what she said
[13:10] <kubanc> a je mel slučajno kdo probleme z HDMI audio v Ubuntu 14.04?
[13:10] <napsy> men je delal to
[13:10] <kubanc> noče mi zaznaz HDMI-ja...
[13:10] <napsy> kero graficno pa mas?
[13:10] <napsy> pa ker ubuntu?
[13:11] <napsy> aja
[13:11] <napsy> sm spregledu
[13:11] <kubanc> Nvidia GeForce GTX 550 Ti
[13:11] <napsy> poskus najprej poupdejtat sistem na 15.04
[13:11] <kubanc> OK
[13:12] <napsy> aja
[13:12] <napsy> kubanc: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1668737
[13:12] <Pepelka> [ubuntu] HOWTO: Ubuntu 10.10 Nvidia hdmi audio
[13:12] <Pepelka> »Although this information is present in this forum in bits and pieces a new nvidia hdmi audio thread pops up every couple days. So for simplicity sake here's my attempt and a very simple howto instead of editing re-editing and reposting old information. First make sure you have nvidia proprietary drivers installed. hdmi audio does not work with nouveau/opensource. Open a terminal. Applications -> Accessories ->Terminal. Now type: cat /proc/driver/nv
[13:13] <napsy> uh sam toje za 10.10
[13:13] <kubanc> zdele je glih en updajt prjeltu za audio driverje
[13:13] <kubanc> bom reštartal sistem da vidm...
[13:14] <kubanc> nč drgač
[13:14] <kubanc> grem upgrade sistema nardit
[13:25] <napsy> lordy lord
[13:48] <CrazyLemon> works for me!
[13:59] <zdobersek> gotowardsvictoryyoumagnificentcuban
[13:59] <jabuk> http://rack.3.mshcdn.com/media/ZgkyMDEzLzA4LzA1L2U1L2NvbGJlcnRyZXBvLjVjNmYxLmdpZgpwCXRodW1iCTg1MHg1OTA-CmUJanBn/710824a0/764/colbert-report.jpg
[14:00] <zdobersek> http://www.24ur.com/novice/svet/kaj-bo-o-patrii-reklo-finsko-sodisce.html
[14:00] <Pepelka> 24ur.com - Janša: Počasi prihaja čas plačila
[14:00] <Pepelka> »Janez Janša se je na družbenem omrežju odzval na odločitev finskega prizivnega sodišča v Turkuju. To je namreč razsodilo, da dokončno zavrne obtožbe proti četverici visokih predstavnikov orožarskega podjetja Patria zaradi sumov podkupovanja slovenskih predstavnikov pri prodaji oklepnikov. Tožilstvu ni uspelo dokazati obtožb v zadostni meri.«
[14:01] <zdobersek> ta bi prav rad bil podkupljen
[14:04] <CrazyLemon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxyCLoYfexo
[14:04] <Pepelka> LiquiGlide: Nonstick coatings leave zero waste behind - YouTube
[14:04] <Pepelka> »The days of wasting condiments — and other products — that stick stubbornly to the sides of their bottles may be gone, thanks to MIT spinout LiquiGlide, whic...«
[15:11] <CrazyLemon> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CIwVqpNWgAEM_X9.jpg:large holy sh1t ker font uporablja
[15:13] <dz0ny> lol
[15:14] <dz0ny> CrazyLemon: kater ze
[15:14] <dz0ny> many many
[15:14] <CrazyLemon> dz0ny pojma nimam but my eyes hurt
[16:01] <zdobbie> http://arstechnica.co.uk/tech-policy/2015/06/eu-plans-to-destroy-net-neutrality-by-allowing-internet-fast-lanes/
[16:01] <Pepelka> EU plans to destroy net neutrality by allowing Internet fast lanes | Ars Technica UK
[16:01] <zdobbie> :'/
[16:01] <Pepelka> »Potentially a big defeat for EU internet users, online startups and future innovation.«
[16:02] <zdobbie> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hr0ckdRnVsE
[16:02] <Pepelka> This is Bullshit - YouTube
[16:02] <Pepelka> »The Wire's Cedric Daniels tells it like it is.«
[16:09] <zdobbie> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwN6dPNXklg
[16:09] <Pepelka> Kanye West vs Freddie Mercury - YouTube
[16:09] <Pepelka> »Kanye West vs Freddie Mercury duel! I do not own the rights to any of this material. Video was created by Q1043.com blogger Sam Valorose«
[16:34] <CrazyLemon> kako bodo uničili net neutrality ? ker ne bodo dovolili traffic shapinga?
[16:35] <CrazyLemon> "shapinga"
[16:41] <CrazyLemon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnFfsflm_js
[16:42] <Pepelka> Beyond Shrink and Pink: Women in Cycling Part 1 - YouTube
[16:42] <Pepelka> »We proudly present the first part of our new series Beyond Shrink and Pink! Read the article here http://goo.gl/BU9jSd We travel to Italy and Scotland to tal...«
[16:43] <zdobbie> specialized services
[16:43] <zdobbie> zero-rating
[16:43] <zdobbie> CrazyLemon: v petek mas start Gira v LJ
[16:43] <CrazyLemon> zdobbie vem ja
[16:49] <zdobbie> .radar
[16:49] <jabuk> Radarska slika padavin: http://www.arso.gov.si/vreme/napovedi%20in%20podatki/radar_anim.gif
[16:56] <CrazyLemon> !g mcbike
[16:56] <Pepelka> McBike and Sport, Smithers BC - Bike, Fish, Run and XC - Smithers ... http://www.mcbike.ca/
[16:56] <CrazyLemon> meh
[16:56] <CrazyLemon> !g mcdonalds mcbike
[16:56] <Pepelka> McDonald's Targets Hipsters With Its Burger Bike Tote | WIRED http://www.wired.com/2015/06/mcdonalds-targets-hipsters-burger-bike-tote/
[16:56] <CrazyLemon> zdobbie ^
[17:01] <zdobbie> CrazyLemon: idc
[17:04] <CrazyLemon> sure you do
[17:13] <zdobbie> not really
[17:27] <zdobbie> anyway
[17:39] <CrazyLemon> such a hipster thing to do!
[17:39] <upd> http://money.cnn.com/2015/06/29/technology/greece-bitcoin/
[17:39] <Pepelka> Greeks are rushing to Bitcoin - Jun. 29, 2015
[17:39] <Pepelka> »The world's largest Bitcoin exchanges say they've seen a surge of business from Greece.«
[17:40] <idioterna> nc novga
[17:50] <dretn> p. peer še uči na FRI?
[17:52] <CrazyLemon> ne vidim razloga zakaj ne bi :)
[17:52] <dretn> men je na predstavitvi diplomske rekel da je php mrtev jezik.
[17:52] <dretn> in da ima python prihodnost
[17:53] <CrazyLemon> python definitivno ima prihodnost :)
[17:53] <CrazyLemon> php pa ni mrtev..sadly
[17:53] <zdobersek> TI IMAS PRIHODNOST
[17:53] <zdobersek> ker si priviligiran
[17:53] <CrazyLemon> ti partaj..hipster
[17:54] <zdobersek> op me first
[17:55] <CrazyLemon> http://www.engadget.com/2015/06/30/peiter-zatko-leaving-google/
[17:55] <Pepelka> Top Googler leaves to set up new cybersecurity agency
[17:55] <Pepelka> »One of Google's most well-regarded security researchers is leaving the company, reportedly to help the government beef up its cybersecuity. Re/code is re«
[17:56] <CrazyLemon> https://youtu.be/VVJldn_MmMY
[17:57] <Pepelka> Hackers Testifying at the United States Senate, May 19, 1998 (L0pht Heavy Industries) - YouTube
[17:57] <Pepelka> »L0pht Heavy Industries testifying before the United States Senate Committee on Governmental Affairs, Live feed from CSPAN, May 19, 1998. Starring Brian Obliv...«
[17:57] <CrazyLemon> lol @ nicknames
[17:59] <zdobersek> 'Uporabo prostokodne programske opreme v javni upravi bo zagovarjal ... Krejzi Le Mon. Izvolite, gospod Le Mon.'
[18:00] <CrazyLemon> le mon sounds pretty fancy
[20:19] <CrazyLemon> dz0ny danes je AMA s tistim ki je naredu mr.robot
[20:27] <zdobbie> redditaur
[20:29] <zdobbie> anyway
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ubuntu-chat
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2015-06-30-#ubuntu-africa
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[06:02] <Kilos> hellooo africa
[06:15] <superfly> So what's the next step, Kilos?
[06:15] <Kilos> you mean here?
[06:15] <superfly> Ya
[06:16] <Kilos> ive got a couple of the newcomers to try find the missing locos
[06:16] <Kilos> but they see its not so quick
[06:16] <Kilos> hehe
[06:17] <Kilos> i just want to try get the site to show up quicker with google
[06:17] <Kilos> that seo thing
[07:32] <elacheche> o/
[07:40] <Kilos> hi elacheche
[07:40] <Kilos> and ongolaBoy
[07:41] <Kilos> and the lurkers
[10:18] <Kilos> hi Neo31
[10:18] <Kilos> hello lunapersa :)
[10:19] <Neo31> hi Kilos
[10:19] <Neo31> waywan
[10:19] <Neo31> lunapersa, is also here
[10:19] <Neo31> cool
[10:20] <lunapersa> :D
[10:23] <lunapersa> Hi Kilos :)
[10:24] <elacheche> Kilos, all my peps are in here x)
[10:24] <Kilos> hi SalahMessaoud
[10:24] <elacheche> This is the #ubuntu-tn swat :D :p
[10:24] <Kilos> good man elacheche
[10:24] <elacheche> hahahha :D
[10:24] <SalahMessaoud> Hi Kilos
[10:24] <elacheche> d4rk-5c0rp, lunapersa Neo31 SalahMessaoud :D
[10:25] <Kilos> ah i missed d4rk-5c0rp
[10:25] <Kilos> greetings
[10:25] <d4rk-5c0rp> hey Kilos :)
[10:27] <Kilos> now we must push coco11 to get all the cameroonians here
[10:28] <Kilos> elacheche where is your newest member?
[10:28] <Kilos> n3 something
[10:29] <elacheche> probably sleeping :D
[10:31] <Kilos> cyrilb daker eebrah kenju254 Neo31 R0ok_ stickyboy have you guys joined our mailing list yet? we will have our first meeting in about 3 weeks time i think
[10:31] <Kilos> and joined here
[10:31] <Kilos> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-africa
[10:32] <Kilos> i forget where the mailing list is
[10:32] <Kilos> ai!
[10:32] <elacheche> Kilos, the ML is in that same link ;à
[10:32] <elacheche> :)
[10:32] <Kilos> yay ty
[10:33] <elacheche> :))
[10:34] <Kilos> with luck inetpro will chair our first meet
[10:35] <Kilos> we just must try find a day when za peeps havent got load shedding
[10:35] <Kilos> oh elacheche another thing
[10:35] <Kilos> do you guys have lugs as well
[10:35] <Kilos> hi Akhenaton
[10:35] <Akhenaton> hi guys
[10:36] <Kilos> i think you are new here, if so welcome to ubuntu-africa
[10:36] <Akhenaton> thanks
[10:36] <Kilos> where are you Akhenaton ?
[10:36] <Kilos> im in south africa
[10:36] <Akhenaton> from cameroon
[10:37] <Kilos> wonderful
[10:37] <Akhenaton> like ongolaBoy and coco11
[10:37] <elacheche> No Kilos, the only GNU/Linux "official" group in Tunisia is #ubuntu-tn.. the others are University CLUBS
[10:37] <Kilos> will you join our mailing list please
[10:37] <Kilos> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-africa
[10:37] <cyrilb> Mailing list [email protected] Policy: You must be a team member to subscribe to the team mailing list.
[10:37] <Kilos> elacheche get the club peeps to join us too
[10:38] <cyrilb> How to become a team member?
[10:38] <Akhenaton> ok let me check it
[10:38] <Kilos> lemme think a bit cyrilb
[10:38] <elacheche> Kilos, I'll try my best :) don't promise a thing :)
[10:38] <Kilos> i dont remember that
[10:38] <Kilos> elacheche whats with the team member thing
[10:39] <elacheche> ?
[10:40] <Kilos> oh cyrilb isnt there a join button?
[10:41] <Kilos> or join this group thingie
[10:43] <Kilos> should be near the active members
[10:46] <Kilos> wbb
[10:52] <Akhenaton> it's done
[10:52] <Kilos> good ty
[10:52] <Akhenaton> i'm now a team menber
[10:53] <Kilos> did you join the mailing list as well?
[10:53] <Akhenaton> yes
[10:53] <Kilos> cool
[10:53] <Kilos> ill auth as soon as i get the mail
[10:53] <Akhenaton> it's was small strong but i try
[10:54] <Akhenaton> ok thanks you
[10:54] <Kilos> as long as you managed thats good
[10:55] <Kilos> done, now ill see who else joins then ill auth them after lunch
[10:57] <Kilos> cyrilb did you find it?
[10:58] <Kilos> hmm... he got busy
[11:41] <Neo31> elacheche, u missed fedora-tn
[11:42] <ariabbas> .
[11:43] <Kilos> hi ariabbas
[11:44] <elacheche> Neo31, there is only 1 person in fedora-tn right now.. o/
[11:44] <elacheche> x)
[11:45] <Kilos> fetch him
[11:47] <elacheche> Already in here :p
[11:47] <Kilos> ah
[11:48] <elacheche> :p
[11:55] <cyrilb> can't login: "Invalid OpenID transaction"
[11:55] <cyrilb> can we create a meetup or facebook group (like normal people)?
[11:55] <Neo31> elacheche, yeah u r right :p if u r talking about sidki, he's out of tunisia, I believe there is one or two other ambassadors here but they don't seem to be active
[11:59] <elacheche> cyrilb, what is a facebook group? o_O
[11:59] <elacheche> We can meetup ere cyrilb :)
[11:59] <cyrilb> https://www.facebook.com/help/284236078342160
[12:00] <cyrilb> the Canonical website is not working, I can't login
[12:00] <elacheche> Ah facebook is a website! :D
[12:00] <cyrilb> I have openid errors
[12:01] <cyrilb> on WHAT PLANET are you living elacheche?!
[12:01] <cyrilb> is Facebook available in Africa (playing the sarcasm game too)?
[12:02] <elacheche> I donno cyrilb :D I'm in the Top of the north.. Maybe there is no Facebook coverage in here :D
[12:02] <elacheche> :p
[12:02] <cyrilb> ;-)
[12:02] <cyrilb> elacheche: is sending your private info to FB an issue?
[12:04] <elacheche> It depends on your definition of "private" :D
[12:04] <cyrilb> sending to Canonical is the same
[12:04] <elacheche> Don't be lazy cyrilb let's debug your OpenID problem :)
[12:04] <cyrilb> okkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
[12:04] <cyrilb> I had nothing to do this afternoon at the office anyway
[12:04] <cyrilb> let's do that
[12:04] <cyrilb> NOT
[12:04] <elacheche> What are you trying to do ?
[12:05] <cyrilb> "my" openid ;-)
[12:05] <cyrilb> problem
[12:05] <elacheche> :D I had a problem with openID once :D
[12:05] <cyrilb> i'm trying to join the mailing list
[12:05] <elacheche> Are you connected to LP?
[12:06] <xar> africa rocks !
[12:06] <elacheche> Yeah xar :D You see!! Someone read the logs ;)
[12:06] <elacheche> Even you :D
[12:06] <xar> logs?
[12:07] <xar> legs?
[12:07] <elacheche> xar, you read the #ubuntu-tn log in your xchat :D that's why you're here :)
[12:07] <elacheche> :p
[12:07] <xar> #free_ads, please, fo never join #ubuntu-tn
[12:07] <xar> do*
[12:07] <xar> :p
[12:08] <elacheche> hahaha.. Kilos meet the funny xar from Tunisia :D
[12:09] <xar> EvilDMP_, hi !
[12:09] <EvilDMP_> hello xar
[12:10] <xar> EvilDMP_, how are you ?
[12:10] <EvilDMP_> busy!
[14:35] <Kilos> cyrilb i added you
[14:36] <Kilos> now you can join the list i think
[14:36] <Akhenaton> good job kilos
[14:37] <Kilos> ty took a while to work out
[14:44] <Kilos> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-africa/+member/cyril
[14:59] <Kilos> cyrilb is in mauritius
[15:33] <Kilos> hmm... elacheche one 20.00 and one 22.00
[18:56] <Kilos> QA tell elacheche fix your mirror https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[18:56] <QA> Kilos: Okay, I'll tell elacheche on freenode
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:38.911044
| 2015-06-30T00:00:00 |
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"elacheche",
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"superfly",
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"channel": "#ubuntu-africa"
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2015-06-30-#ubuntu-vn
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[07:43] <vubuntor589> Hi all !
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:38.912571
| 2015-06-30T00:00:00 |
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"authors": [
"vubuntor589"
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2015-06-30-#ubuntustudio-devel
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[20:01] <OvenWerks> zequence: ISO build failures look like they are external to our setup. It looks like one of the servers is/was down. It looks like they were rebuilt a half hour later with success.
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:38.913475
| 2015-06-30T00:00:00 |
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"authors": [
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[02:51] <Redfoxie> hi hi
[03:09] <ahoneybun> hey Redfoxie
[03:10] <Redfoxie> how are you?
[03:10] <ahoneybun> good
[03:10] <Redfoxie> we have had some crazy rain here lately huh?
[03:11] <ahoneybun> yea for sure
[03:12] <Redfoxie> here is a big shot in the dark, you dont by chance work with ubuntu servers any do you?
[03:15] <mhall119> Redfoxie: crazy in that it comes in the morning, otherwise pretty standard summer weather
[03:16] <Redfoxie> fair enough, im in central most of ours have been in the afternoon but gone by evening
[03:16] <mhall119> Redfoxie: I *have* Ubuntu Servers, but I'm not a sysadmin, so I may or may not be able to help
[03:16] <Redfoxie> 'im having trouble doing an install on 14.04.2 with a memorystick
[03:17] <mhall119> what's the trouble?
[03:17] <Redfoxie> not being able to install it at all lol
[03:17] <Redfoxie> there are two issues i run into
[03:17] <Redfoxie> but brb ill explain in a sec swaping systems
[03:18] <mhall119> what kind of servers are they? If they're RAID or something, I'm going to be totally lost
[03:19] * mhall119 might actually be lost for anything related to installing server, has only done cloud deployments in the last several years
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2015-06-30-#juju-dev
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[00:19] <thumper> davecheney: ping
[00:21] <davecheney> thumper: ack
[00:21] <thumper> davecheney: hangout to talk about sigquit and logs?
[00:21] <davecheney> sure
[00:21] <thumper> davecheney: 1:1 hangout?
[00:21] <davecheney> sure
[01:14] <sinzui> thumper-afk: the power test failed. My hack to run subpackages is wrong. I need to try again.
[01:22] <davecheney> thumper-afk: got the basics working
[01:29] <davecheney> thumper-afk: lucky(~/src/github.com/juju/juju/state) % ./state.test
[01:29] <davecheney> ^\exiting with signal: quit
[01:29] <davecheney> lucky(~/src/github.com/juju/juju/state) % ./state.test
[01:29] <davecheney> ^Cexiting with signal: interrupt
[01:32] <davecheney> menn0, thumper-afk https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/2675
[01:56] <thumper> davecheney: ta
[01:56] * thumper looks
[01:57] <davecheney> let me know if it looks sane
[01:57] <davecheney> i did a bit of testing with the sample function supplied
[01:57] <davecheney> i can hook and unhook functions
[01:57] <davecheney> s/functions/signals
[02:19] <thumper> davecheney: hangout?
[02:24] <davecheney> thumper: two secs
[02:25] <davecheney> gotta change computers
[02:27] <davecheney> thumper: i'm in the 1:1
[03:12] <thumper> http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/2053/
[03:13] <thumper> davecheney: ^^
[03:13] * thumper is running out
[03:13] <thumper> if you are happy, please add $$merge$$ bits
[03:13] <thumper> cheers
[03:16] <natefinch> Good god, I just wrote 300 lines of ridiculously tedious code just so we have copies of our business logic structs in the API. And now I have to go write tests for this crap.
[03:24] <mwhudson> fatal error: runtime: stack split at bad time
[03:24] <mwhudson> i think i have annoyed the go gods
[03:24] <mwhudson> (this is on arm64 though)
[03:36] <davecheney> mwhudson: excuse me, is not a good time for a stack split ?
[03:37] <davecheney> thumper-afk: LGTM
[03:37] <davecheney> probably will end up dumping more than we except
[03:37] <davecheney> but we can always disable ti again
[03:44] <mwhudson> davecheney: https://github.com/golang/go/issues/11482
[04:41] <_thumper_> hmm...
[04:41] <_thumper_> for some reason the nick thumper is temporarily unavailable
[04:41] * _thumper_ needs to work out who to ping
[04:42] <_thumper_> sinzui: I've landed a tweak for the upgrade tests so if they timeout and get killed, we dump the logs
[04:42] <_thumper_> sinzui: so we can debug the ci failures
[04:43] <_thumper_> sinzui: how soon is the next ci run for 1.24?
[05:30] <thumper> and now we wait
[05:30] <thumper> o/ dimitern
[05:30] <davecheney> thumper: looks like your change landed
[05:30] <thumper> davecheney: yep, on 1.24 and master
[05:31] <thumper> hopefully the next ci test run will give us more logging
[05:31] <thumper> davecheney: actually I wonder if I can reproduce now...
[05:31] <thumper> davecheney: as the timing is different between -check.vv and what we have done
[05:31] <dimitern> thumper, hey
[05:31] <thumper> .vv causes lots of I/O sync
[05:32] * thumper goes to poke the power machine
[05:35] <davecheney> thumper: all that io flushing to disk will generate a lot of scheduler churn
[05:35] <thumper> agreed
[05:35] <davecheney> what was straight line code will weave through the scheduler
[05:35] <davecheney> \o/ butterfly wings
[05:36] <davecheney> with that said
[05:36] <davecheney> it is rare that making a program _more_ concurrent increases it's stability
[05:41] <thumper> hmm... it appears to be passing individually
[05:42] * thumper tries with the whole suite
[05:44] * thumper sighs
[05:44] <thumper> still seems to be passing
[05:44] <thumper> bah humbug
[05:44] <thumper> davecheney: I love yours stress test script
[05:44] <davecheney> that thing broke so many people's dreams
[05:44] <thumper> davecheney: I think we should probably commit that into the tree somewhere
[05:44] <thumper> :)
[05:45] <davecheney> i've been using it for years
[05:45] <davecheney> for some reason GOMAXPROCS=42 (no shit)
[05:45] <thumper> so much better that a bash for loop
[05:45] <davecheney> always caused a set of tests to segfacult
[05:45] <thumper> haha
[05:45] <thumper> that is freaking hilarious
[05:46] <davecheney> 42 insn't a prime
[05:46] <davecheney> but 7 is one of it's factors
[05:46] <davecheney> and that is a prime
[05:46] <davecheney> so that's something
[05:48] <thumper> pffft
[05:50] <thumper> the suite has passed heaps, then failed with mongo not coming up
[05:50] * thumper retries
[05:50] <thumper> davecheney: just noticed that the stress script stops when a test fails
[05:50] <thumper> nice
[05:50] <davecheney> it's designed for tests that take seconds (cough)
[05:50] <davecheney> so if it didn't stop, you may not notice the failure
[07:11] <thumper> ffs
[07:11] * thumper walks away again
[07:11] <thumper> dinner time
[07:24] <fwereade> ashipika, ping
[07:25] <fwereade> ashipika, was wondering if you needed any clarification re http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/1933/ -- in particular my suggestion that it feels like an operation?
[07:44] <ashipika> fwereade: hey.. yes.. some clarification would help.. :)
[07:45] <fwereade> ashipika, ok, so, we've got to the point where pretty much everythiong the uniter *does* is encapsulated in an operation
[07:45] <fwereade> ashipika, see uniter/operation
[07:45] <ashipika> fwereade: *looking*
[07:46] <fwereade> ashipika, the idea being that the modes can decide what needs to be done
[07:46] <fwereade> ashipika, but *how* those things are done is determined elsewhere
[07:47] <fwereade> ashipika, it's not 100% clean, particularly the entanglement of operation state with operation definition
[07:48] <fwereade> ashipika, but at first blush it looked like a plausible way to keep the flushing details out of the modes
[07:48] <ashipika> fwereade: ok.. i'll have a look at operations and if i have any questions i'll come back to you.. but from what you've said i can see how this could be a good fit for an operation
[07:48] <fwereade> ashipika, (...and I hold out hopes that we'll be able to change the modes into something more isolated and comprehensible, but every little bit of extra complexity in there works against that)
[07:48] <fwereade> ashipika, ok, cool
[07:50] <thumper> fwereade: hey, I'd like a chat if you have a few minutes
[07:50] <fwereade> thumper, sure
[08:22] <mattyw> fwereade, jam if one of you has 2 minutes I have a hopefully trivial request
[08:50] <fwereade> mattyw, oops sorry!
[08:50] <fwereade> mattyw, what can I do for you?
[10:06] <fwereade> axw, btw, if you're on: I'm missing a bit of context around the session-handling in state/tools.go (and a little bit in state/images.go, but that's simpler)
[10:07] <fwereade> axw, possibly what I'm confused about is the underlying reasons for the differences between the two?
[10:07] <axw> fwereade: I'll need to refresh state, one minute
[10:11] <axw> fwereade: I think I just realised I could do it a better way when I did the second one (image metadata), and never went back to clean up tools storage
[10:11] <axw> fwereade: AFAIR, the uses of ToolsStorage only keep ahold of it for a brief time, so the session won't become stale
[10:11] <axw> fwereade: but it would be better to just Copy and dispose inside the method call
[10:46] <rogpeppe> axw: hiya
[10:47] <axw> rogpeppe: ahoy
[10:47] <rogpeppe> axw: have you had anything to do with the juju user support, by any chance?
[10:47] <axw> rogpeppe: none
[10:47] <rogpeppe> axw: ah, ok.
[10:47] <rogpeppe> axw: darn
[10:47] <rogpeppe> axw: :)
[10:47] <axw> rogpeppe: I think thumper
[10:47] <rogpeppe> axw: he's never online when i am :-(
[10:48] <axw> yeah :/
[10:48] <rogpeppe> axw: i *think* this is meant to work: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11798402/
[10:50] <axw> rogpeppe: "juju switch" doesn't seem right
[10:50] <axw> rogpeppe: that's always been for switching environments...
[10:51] <rogpeppe> axw: i thought that a jenv file represented an environment
[10:51] <rogpeppe> axw: (and some creds to access that environment)
[10:51] <axw> rogpeppe: ah, I see. hrm. I guess it's validating against environments.yaml? not really sure
[10:52] <rogpeppe> axw: looks like configstore list is broken somehow
[10:53] <rogpeppe> axw: ha
[10:54] <rogpeppe> axw: "juju user add" writes the .jenv file to the current directory, it seems
[10:54] <axw> rogpeppe: heh :)
[11:51] <TheMue> hmpf, three disconnects in a few minutes
[13:01] <TheMue> hangout
[13:02] <dooferlad> omw
[13:24] <fwereade> axw, still around?
[13:25] <axw> fwereade: hey, what's up?
[13:25] <fwereade> axw, was wondering about Unit.findCleanMachineQuery and its returned closer
[13:26] <fwereade> axw, it's seeming like a good idea to pass the closee in, and keep that all happening at one level
[13:26] <fwereade> axw, any objections?
[13:26] * axw looks
[13:28] <axw> fwereade: pass the closee in? pass what closee in to what? how about change findCleanMachineQuery to take a *machineDoc, and execute the query directly?
[13:29] <fwereade> axw, one client wants .One and one wants .All, I think
[13:30] <axw> fwereade: ah, didn't see hte other one.
[13:30] <fwereade> axw, but if the two clients each did their own newDB, passed that in, and closed it themselves, it might be sane?
[13:31] <axw> fwereade: oh I see. that sounds fine to me
[13:31] <fwereade> axw, cool, thanks, sorry mangled english in original question :)
[13:31] <axw> nps
[13:34] <fwereade> dammit, I'm not sure that makes that much sense actually, at least not without inappropriate application of secret knowledge :/
[13:37] <fwereade> axw, hmm. how would it be if we just made it return terms, and made the client get the machines collection itself? what's the worst that could happen re copied sessions there? we already know it's potenntially inaccurate; coudl it get apppreciably worse?
[13:56] <axw> fwereade: sounds reasonable, but how would you do the container check bit?
[13:58] <axw> fwereade: or the instance-data bit for that matter
[13:59] <axw> sounds like it'd get a bit messy
[13:59] <axw> seems like
[14:00] <fwereade> axw, I *think* it's less messy to just copy the session inside fCMQ for the container and instanceData checks
[14:00] <fwereade> axw, and defer those closes in a sane scope
[14:01] <fwereade> axw, and then, separately, let the clients use their own session copies to actually grab the machine, and defer *those* closes in a sane scope
[14:02] <fwereade> axw, given that the transactions are themselves probably running in their *own* session I don't think things will get worse
[14:02] <ericsnow> fwereade: thanks for the reviews
[14:04] <axw> fwereade: yeah, I think that'd be fine.
[14:04] <fwereade> axw, cool
[14:05] <fwereade> ericsnow, hope they help :)
[14:08] <fwereade> axw, ok, looking back at tools.go
[14:09] <fwereade> axw, does tools storage depend on any per-environment features? or can I just create a plain txn runner?
[14:10] <axw> fwereade: it doesn't have env-specific metadata, though it possibly should
[14:10] <fwereade> axw, that said I probably ought to give it an env-aware runner anyway
[14:11] <fwereade> axw, if it doesn't touch env bits it makes no difference having it
[14:11] <fwereade> axw, if it does, *not* having it makes a big difference
[14:11] <axw> fwereade: yep. I think it'd be best to pass one in if possible, to avoid later surprise
[14:14] <axw> fwereade: what are you doing anyway?
[14:15] <axw> w.r.t. tools storage
[14:15] <fwereade> axw, getting angry about raw DB access all over the place and trying to make it impossible
[14:15] <fwereade> axw, or at least *harder* to do without knowing you're being bad
[14:16] <axw> fwereade: heh :) sounds good
[14:23] <ericsnow> fwereade: you have some time to talk about state?
[14:28] * perrito666 is suddenly held in a very strange position in front of his computer by a back contracture
[14:29] <fwereade> ericsnow, sure, but probably best on irc right now
[15:44] <natefinch> ericsnow: where were you thinking the APIClient implementation would live?
[15:45] <natefinch> ericsnow: process/api/client I assume
[15:45] <ericsnow> natefinch: right
[15:46] <natefinch> ericsnow: hmm.. problematic to write the client code without the endpoint args available
[15:46] <ericsnow> natefinch: why wouldn't they be available?
[15:47] <natefinch> ericsnow: can you or wwitzel3 do a quick review on the server code I PR'd? It's super simple code. It will probably need some tweaks once your state branch lands, but only super minimal things (like status is a string instead of a struct, etc)
[15:47] <ericsnow> natefinch: already did :)
[15:47] <mup> Bug #1470150 opened: CentOS fails to bootstrap using juju 1.24 <bootstrap> <centos> <juju-core:Triaged> <juju-core 1.24:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1470150>
[15:48] <natefinch> ericsnow: huh, weird, wonder where that email went. Maybe I archived it by accident. Anyway, thanks! I'll work on that,.
[15:48] <ericsnow> natefinch: cool
[15:50] <natefinch> ericsnow: LOL "TestUnregisterTransaction" .... this is what I get for writing tests during standup ;)
[15:50] <ericsnow> natefinch: :)
[16:23] <natefinch> I hate it when I delete code and it makes my coverage percentage go down :/
[16:23] <natefinch> that was well-tested useless code
[16:24] <sinzui> ericsnow: natefinch katco : I need help with the go test command line. I want to omit githubm.com/juju/juju/cmd/jujud from the test run (just that packge and below). I tried -run, but is don’t match on path
[16:25] <sinzui> github.com/juju/juju/cmd/jujud I mean
[16:27] <katco> sinzui: i don't think go test or gocheck have an exclusion flag
[16:27] <natefinch> sinzui: omission is not really supported, AFAIK
[16:27] <katco> sinzui: you just have to test only the things you care about (i.e. all the import paths)
[16:28] <natefinch> sinzui: you'll have to do some CLI hacking. You can do go list github.com/juju/juju to get a list of all the packages and then just run go test manually over each one except jujud
[16:28] <sinzui> katco: natefinch I was afraid of that. I can contrive a way to test subpackages, but is gets ugly
[16:29] <natefinch> it's not actually horrible, since you're still using the go tool to get the list of packages
[16:29] <sinzui> natefinch: yeah, that is how I disccovered that juju/juju/cmd will fail, but running the subpackages by itself themselves will pass
[16:30] <natefinch> sinzui: I remember seeing something like that a while back. probably a cleanup issue or something
[16:31] <sinzui> natefinch: oh is there a way to ask go test to give me a list of all the packages it finds? I could re-order such as list to that the problem ppc package it tested first
[16:32] <katco> sinzui: go list github.com/juju/juju/... |grep -v github.com/juju/juju/cmd/jujud |xargs go test
[16:32] <natefinch> sinzui: go list creates the same list that go test would
[16:33] <sinzui> :)
[16:35] <sinzui> natefinch: thank you. This looks promising
[16:36] <natefinch> ^^ katco too
[16:36] <abentley> sinzui or jog: I have two branches for review, one a prerequisite of the other: https://code.launchpad.net/~abentley/workspace-runner/s3-script/+merge/263383 https://code.launchpad.net/~abentley/workspace-runner/s3-artifacts/+merge/263384
[16:38] <bogdanteleaga> how can I test an unexported implementation of an interface? currently I'm using export_test and for a function I instantiate the type and call the method. Is there a better way?
[16:38] <jog> abentley, I'll take a look
[16:39] <abentley> jog: Thanks.
[17:01] <fwereade> axw, if you're awake you shouldn't be, but in case you are: why is image metadata in the images DB, but tools metadata in the juju db?
[17:19] <natefinch> fwereade: do we require comments on every exported field on an exported struct?
[18:37] <katco> ericsnow: hey, sorry, finally rolling back onto api server abstraction.
[18:37] <katco> ericsnow: i took a look at what other apiserver facades were doing to see if we could extract some commonality, but it doesn't look like there is any.
[18:37] <ericsnow> katco: np
[18:38] <katco> ericsnow: given we're just going to be using the standard RegisterFacade, and composing an adapter in components/all/process.go... what is the abstraction bit?
[18:38] <ericsnow> katco: I do think we should add RegisterHookContextFacade
[18:38] <abentley> jog, sinzui: So I get two reviews for the first branch and no reviews for the second? Is that how it is?
[18:38] <katco> ericsnow: i haven't found anything that would make that unique
[18:38] <ericsnow> katco: it takes care of auth
[18:38] <jog> abentley, sorry on a call
[18:39] <sinzui> abentley: I am doing the second. I am just distracted
[18:39] <katco> ericsnow: well, different facades use auth in different ways
[18:39] <abentley> jog, sinzui: No worries.
[18:39] <ericsnow> katco: context hook facades (i.e. uniter) only use auth in 1 way
[18:40] <katco> ericsnow: so this entire card turns out to be creating a RegisterHookContextFacade, calling AuthUnitAgent, and that's it?
[18:40] <ericsnow> katco: basically RegisterHookContextFacade would take care of most of the stuff that is in newUniterBaseAPI (in apiserver/uniter/uniter_base.go)
[18:41] <katco> ericsnow: there's actually not much in there aside from constructing some closures for the uniter
[19:08] <fwereade> natefinch, ...not *necessarily*, but I have been finding that forcing myself to document every field has generally led only to good things
[19:09] <natefinch> fwereade: kk... I find that usually the field is pretty obvious and the comment is redundant, and just makes the struct harder to read. Howeever, occasionally it has made a better name for the field more obvious.
[19:09] <natefinch> fwereade: and of course, sometimes a field name can't encompass all the info you need about the field
[19:09] <fwereade> natefinch, yeah
[19:10] <perrito666> natefinch: nonsense, unles your attribute has a very java like long descriptive name, a doc is always a good thing
[19:11] <fwereade> natefinch, I do still kinda believe in my heart that every comment is a sign the code is insufficiently clear, but I don't think that's *actually* as helpful as I wish it were :)
[19:14] <fwereade> natefinch, perrito666: and, to be fair, I would say that while java-style naming has its squickiness, I think it's more a consequence of trying to retain clarity on large projects with lots of people working on them; and that juju has, for a while, been big enough that every little bit of bludgeoning obviousness helps
[19:14] <natefinch> perrito666: I'm with fwereade - if the name isn't clear enough, that's a problem with the code. Comments are nice, but they shouldn't be everything... and I think that if you need to call out something about a specific field, it's actually more appropriate to do it on the comment for the struct itself.
[19:16] <natefinch> perrito666, fwereade - it's like comments on a function - you don't comment every arg... if an argument is non-obvious, spell it out in the comment for the function. Most of the time, most arguments and fields should be obvious, and the comments on them reflect that: "ID is the unique id of the foo"
[19:16] <perrito666> natefinch: data structures cannot be all that expressive by themselves
[19:16] <fwereade> perrito666, natefinch: the strongest argument against comments, ofc, is that they lie, and we're not immune to that
[19:16] <fwereade> perrito666, I dunno, what's that quote
[19:16] * fwereade goes hunting
[19:17] <perrito666> fwereade: poor translation from spanish
[19:17] <natefinch> fwereade: actually, I think that the problem with comments on fields and arguments is that they're so often useless, that if one is actually USEFUL, no one will read it because they'll assume it's useless.
[19:17] <fwereade> natefinch, perrito666: "Show me your flowcharts and conceal your tables, and I shall continue to be mystified. Show me your tables, and I won’t usually need your flowcharts; they’ll be obvious."
[19:18] <natefinch> perrito666: I agree that comments aren't bad themselves.... but by requiring them on the vast majority of fields that *are* obvious..... you then can't see the forest for the trees
[19:18] <perrito666> natefinch: many times our structures have fields that represent something that makes sense to someone that knows a lot about juju only, and that doesnt mean that the name is unclear, only that the struct has some baggage, and given the size of the project, a comment helps there
[19:18] <fwereade> natefinch, perrito666: again, more usually true in theory than in practice, because people write run=bbish data structures just as much as they write rubbish code
[19:18] <TheMue> type thisStructContainsInformationAboutFilesMatchingAGivenCriteria struct { thisIsTheNameOfTheFileThatMatchedTheCriteria string ... }
[19:19] <natefinch> TheMue: so you've written java?
[19:19] <TheMue> natefinch: one, in my dark past hours. but even then not so long identifiers
[19:20] <fwereade> natefinch, perrito666, TheMue: the trouble is that there often *is* more meaning than can be packed into a name
[19:20] <fwereade> natefinch, perrito666, TheMue: consider the Life fields in state
[19:21] <fwereade> natefinch, perrito666, TheMue: they're *loaded* with subtle meaning, but everything has its own Life field
[19:21] <natefinch> Well, for that, I think that either a comment on the struct itself, or perhaps an exception to the no-comments-on-fields rule is fine. But for the vast majority of cases, the comment on a field is just noise.
[19:21] <TheMue> fwereade: yes, where I still like comments is (a) in describing behavior, not meaning, and (b) as a kind of optical separator. with highlighting quickly blocks are identifyable
[19:21] <natefinch> for example: https://github.com/juju/juju/blob/master/apiserver/params/actions.go#L54
[19:22] <fwereade> natefinch, perrito666, TheMue: where do we document them? I write quite a lot of useful stuff in the doc directory, and I've tried to make a point of telling everyone to read them when they join, but...
[19:22] <fwereade> sorry, s/write/wrote/ -- I have suffered some degree of disillusionment
[19:22] <natefinch> no comments on fields... aside from the difference between Message and Status, all the fields are pretty damn obvious, and a comment is not going to help anyone.
[19:22] <perrito666> I am not all that clear, how does he know that the action is going to be completed? :p
[19:23] <natefinch> perrito666: that information should be on the struct itself or the function that uses it... not on the field.
[19:24] <perrito666> ok ok, I give up, there is a level of obviousness
[19:24] <natefinch> it also comes down to how it looks in godoc. Field comments are in plaintext, struct and function comments are able to be styled and are therefore a lot easier to read
[19:25] <natefinch> for example: https://godoc.org/github.com/juju/deputy#Deputy
[19:25] <natefinch> This might be the exception to the rule, since the fields are basically 100% of what the package is about. but even so, it's kind of hard to read.
[19:26] <fwereade> natefinch, yeah, like so many things it's a matter of taste and judgment
[19:26] <natefinch> yep
[19:26] <perrito666> natefinch: Errors is a poor name for that field :p
[19:27] <fwereade> natefinch, fwiw, I'm trying to factor some stuff into one place for state, and I've ended up with this type: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11800862/
[19:27] <fwereade> natefinch, overcommented? perhaps
[19:27] <fwereade> natefinch, but *useless* comments? I hope not
[19:27] <fwereade> natefinch, and I don't know where to put them if not the struct iitself
[19:28] <natefinch> perrito666: not when used in the code: d := deputy.Deputy{ Errors: deputy.FromStderr }
[19:30] <natefinch> fwereade: I think this is like my deputy example, where there's a lot of subtlety in the fields. Maybe this is a good use for field comments... but then again, it's really hard for me to even see what fields exist in the struct because of all the comments. The comments might do just as well living in the struct comment, and leave the body of the struct easier to read. I dunno.
[19:31] <fwereade> natefinch, yeah -- it's not great, but AFAICS documenting the structs is less awful than any other approach
[19:33] <natefinch> fwereade: maybe for your struct, short comments per field and longer comments in the struct comment is warranted.
[19:35] <perrito666> natefinch: this is close to derive in an editor war
[19:37] <natefinch> perrito666: is derive an editor?
[19:37] <mup> Bug #1455623 opened: TestPingCalledOnceOnlyForSeveralWorkers fails <ci> <intermittent-failure> <test-failure> <juju-core:Triaged> <juju-core 1.23:Triaged> <juju-core 1.24:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1455623>
[19:37] <perrito666> lets suppose I want to do something for command line like juju deploy --flag foo=afoo bar=abar beh=beh, what would be the better syntax? (or does gnuflag support multiple --flag?
[19:38] <perrito666> natefinch: was that a joke? I am unsure
[19:38] <natefinch> perrito666: not a joke. I could google for it, I suppose
[19:39] <waigani> fwereade: thanks for email. I replied but I'm not sure if it sent, my client is playing up (can't see it in sent box), did you get it?
[19:39] <perrito666> lool
[19:39] <perrito666> natefinch: apparently some of my english is outdated
[19:39] <perrito666> says the dict
[19:39] <perrito666> archaic : bring
[19:40] <natefinch> heh
[19:40] <natefinch> perrito666: sorry, the way it was used, it sounded like derive was an editor.... I never know what wacky editors people use. if sublime can be an editor, why not derive? :) Sorry for the misunderstanding.
[19:42] <perrito666> derive was an old math sofware for windows 3.1
[19:42] <natefinch> perrito666: make flag work like constraints --constraints "foo=bar baz=bat"
[19:42] <perrito666> ah, that is nice, thx
[19:58] <mup> Bug #1470220 opened: Juju-deployer incorrectly reporting errors in juju 1.24.0 environment <juju-core:New> <juju-deployer:New> <juju-gui:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1470220>
[20:07] <fwereade> waigani, yeah, I saw it, thanks for the quick response
[20:10] <waigani> fwereade: ah phew. np.
[20:27] <natefinch> ericsnow: you mentioned I should also add the code for registering this in component/all/process.go ... but I'm not really sure what that code should look like.
[20:28] <ericsnow> natefinch: take a look at what's there already; it should be similar
[20:29] <katco> natefinch: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11801171/
[20:29] <ericsnow> natefinch: basically a call to RegisterStandardFacade (or whatever) in registerHookContext
[20:29] <natefinch> katco, ericsnow: thanks :)
[20:33] <ericsnow> natefinch: could you take another look at http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/1996/?
[20:33] <ericsnow> natefinch: I'd really like to get that landed
[20:36] <ericsnow> natefinch: looks like your conversion helpers (API2Proc, etc.) did not make it into your latest patch
[20:44] <natefinch> ericsnow: doh, yeah, new file. Stupid git
[20:44] <ericsnow> natefinch: I figured :)
[20:54] <natefinch> ericsnow: http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/2061/diff/2-3/
[20:56] <ericsnow> natefinch: doc comments on API helpers...
[20:57] <ericsnow> natefinch: otherwise looks good :)
[20:58] <natefinch> ericsnow: ahh yeah, had to export them so now have to comment them, damn
[20:58] <ericsnow> natefinch: yeah, sorry
[21:55] <sinzui> thumper: this is the only issue unique to wily and vivid. fixing https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1468349 will grealy increase chances of a pass
[21:55] <mup> Bug #1468349: discoverySuite.TestDiscoverServiceLocalHost: invalid series for wily and vivid <test-failure> <unit-tests> <wily> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1468349>
[22:10] <thumper> sinzui: cheers
[22:32] <thumper> sinzui: I can replicate the singular intermittent failure locally
[22:32] * thumper is on it
[23:04] <thumper> sinzui: I have a fix for the singular worker
[23:04] <sinzui> \o/
[23:04] <thumper> thanks to davecheney's stress script
[23:04] <thumper> weird time.Timer behaviour, but fix works
[23:07] <thumper> waigani_, cherylj: http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/2066/diff/#
[23:07] <thumper> as on call reviewers :)
[23:08] <thumper> note: the interval := PingInterval call is probably not strictly necessary, but I did it initially when the calls were separated, and I wanted to make sure the value wasn't changing outside that go routine
[23:08] <thumper> so it only used the local value
[23:08] <thumper> it wasn't changing, but the isolation is still there
[23:08] * thumper thinks
[23:09] * thumper removes it
[23:10] <thumper> menn0: http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/2066/diff/#
[23:11] <menn0> thumper: looking
[23:11] <thumper> cheers
[23:11] * menn0 is glad to have something to distract him from the woeful situation he is looking at
[23:22] <waigani_> thumper: I'm assuming you manually tested the fix and the intermittent failures are gone?
[23:22] <thumper> waigani_: sure as eggs
[23:22] <waigani_> thumper: lgtm
[23:41] <mwhudson> davecheney: hey, have you tried to build/run juju with the go arm64 port yet?
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[05:23] <bzoltan_> mhall119: the Ubuntu Connecetivity API docs come from the connectivity-doc package what lives in the connectivity-api source https://launchpad.net/connectivity-api
[05:24] <bzoltan_> mhall119: the main Qt Connectivity doc package is qtconnectivity5-doc and it comes from the https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtconnectivity-opensource-src source
[06:24] <reepca> any suggestions for a phone to buy with ubuntu touch compatibility in the states?
[07:08] <dholbach> good morning
[07:13] <sreejithp> am trying to setup static ip on ubuntu touch but the ip configurations are not accepting
[07:13] <sreejithp> can some one help
[08:07] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Meteor Watch Day! 😃
[08:25] <nhaines> reepca: The only one, if you can find it, is the Nexus 4. Unless you're a developer, I recommend waiting for a retail unit to become available.
[09:46] <brobostigon> http://forums.getpebble.com/discussion/26886/ubuntu-touch-support-of-pebble-time there we go, there is demand for it.
[10:07] <popey> brobostigon: :)
[10:07] <brobostigon> need sorting then doesnt it, :)
[10:07] <popey> Yes! :)
[10:07] <brobostigon> :)
[10:34] <brobostigon> a good start would be a port of icu and libpebble, as those already exist on desktop ubuntu to support the pebble.
[11:05] <popey> brobostigon: looks like libpebble hasn't been touched for 2 years
[11:06] <brobostigon> popey: yes, but its a place to start from, as it contains the functions to interface with the pebble fw.
[11:06] <popey> true
[11:07] <brobostigon> there is also an app for sailfish to interface with the pebble, i dont know if they have released the code for that, but that get regular updates as far as i can see.
[11:09] <popey> yeah, it's on github
[11:09] <tathhu> https://github.com/smokku/pebble
[11:09] <popey> https://github.com/smokku/pebble
[11:09] <popey> hah, beat me
[11:09] <tathhu> :P
[11:09] <brobostigon> :)
[11:10] <brobostigon> other issue will be, differences between fw 2.9 and 3.0 on og-pebble and pebble time.
[11:15] <popey> brobostigon: have you used libpebble?
[11:15] <brobostigon> popey: i tried it a couple of years ago now, when i first got my pebble, but havent touched it since.
[11:16] <popey> ok, you use your pebble with android?
[11:16] <popey> still use your pebble at all?
[11:16] <julienrbt> Pebble user here :)
[11:16] <julienrbt> It is possible to use with Ubuntu Touch? O.o
[11:16] <popey> not yet
[11:16] <popey> \o/ lunchtime
[11:17] <brobostigon> popey: yes, on android,
[11:18] <brobostigon> jrbt: we are trying to work out how to make it possible to.
[11:19] <jrbt> Cool :) That the only things with I keep Android on my Nexus :D
[11:20] <brobostigon> a start, is open code for it, like libpebble and the pebble app for sailfish.
[11:23] <jrbt> s/with/why
[11:25] <jrbt> it is hard to port?
[11:25] <brobostigon> jrbt: because we need to implement the functions to interface with the pebble fw, and then implement the functions in ubuntu touch's notification etc, to push to the pebble using those functions.
[11:27] <jrbt> Ok.
[11:27] <jrbt> But good and cool to know! :)
[11:28] <jrbt> Thanks for your works!
[11:28] <brobostigon> :)
[11:33] <rvr> mzanetti: https://bugs.launchpad.net/camera-app/+bug/1470083
[11:33] <mzanetti> rvr, hi :)
[11:33] <rvr> mzanetti: Hi :)
[11:34] <mzanetti> rvr, duplicate of https://bugs.launchpad.net/camera-app/+bug/1465541 ?
[11:34] <rvr> mzanetti: Nope
[11:34] <rvr> mzanetti: Full screen, but wrong "angle"
[11:34] <mzanetti> mhm...
[11:35] <WebDrake> Hello all, would anyone be up for answering a question regarding OTA upgrades? I'm not sure if this is the right channel for support questions, so apologies if I'm in the wrong place
[11:35] <mzanetti> rvr, seems still something for Kaleo, right?
[11:36] <rvr> mzanetti: Is Kaleo the current camera-app maintainer?
[11:36] <mzanetti> afaik, yes
[11:36] <rvr> Ack
[11:36] <rvr> Kaleo: https://bugs.launchpad.net/camera-app/+bug/1465541 :)
[11:37] <ogra_> WebDrake, it is a perfectly fine channel for this :)
[11:37] <WebDrake> ogra_: thanks! :-) Question is about confirming that all went OK with update
[11:38] <Kaleo> rvr, fix is landing now
[11:38] <ogra_> just check in system settings,, yu should set all the version info etc there
[11:38] <Kaleo> rvr, been reported a few times already :)
[11:38] <ogra_> s/set/see/
[11:38] <rvr> Kaleo: Ah, I didn't see any critical bug
[11:39] <Kaleo> rvr, yeah they might not have been tagged critical
[11:39] <Kaleo> rvr, but clearly it is
[11:39] <rvr> Kaleo: Good to know fix is coming, thanks
[11:39] <WebDrake> With the last OTA update, I didn't read the release notes properly about the amount of time it would take to finalize the upgrade, and so I wound up hitting power keys when it seemed like nothing was happening for ages -- as far as I can tell, the update just proceeded on its merry way, but I thought it might be a good idea to check if there was a way to verify that all parts of the update (e.g. all AppArmor profiles etc.) real
[11:40] <ogra_> WebDrake, if you are unsure, just do another reboot ... apparmor makes usually sure that it re-generates the profiles before finishing the boot
[11:40] <ogra_> even if you interrupted it
[11:41] <WebDrake> ogra_: Then I figure I'm probably fine, because I've shutdown/restarted many times since then, & the phone "About" info records the OS as 15.04 (r23)
[11:42] <ogra_> yeah, that sounds all fine then
[11:42] <WebDrake> Great, thanks!
[11:43] <WebDrake> And collective thanks to all involved in the phone development, this is really fun to use :-)
[11:43] <melon> Hi! I've been lookinga round for a bit but can't seem to fond something definitive. Does the new MX4 support (or will support within a small timeframe) wifi tethering. I use it almost all day as of right now.
[11:43] <ogra_> WebDrake, great that you like it :)
[11:48] <melon> Ok, I take that as "nobody knows". Is there some kind of list of features or comprehensive change log collection I can look through to see if wifi hotspots are mentioned anywhere?
[11:48] <ogra_> melon, the basics have been implemented by rsalveti and kenvandine a while ago (not sure it landed anywhere yet though) ... the Ui bits will surely still take a while though
[11:49] <ogra_> wired tethering via USB definitely works as an interim solution
[11:50] <melon> I'm quite decent with low level linux stuff, as far as the system goes. I've never written any code myself though. Do you mean as in "it works but you have to use the terminal" or "it works, but you might break you installation" or "the code is sort of there but not complete"?
[11:51] <ogra_> either of the latter two ... (not sure which one, i dont know if everything landed yet)
[11:52] <melon> Allright, thanks! Any idea where I could find further info?
[11:52] <ogra_> try asking on the mailing list (or wait til kenvandine is around, he might be able to answer)
[11:54] <melon> Thanks!
[11:54] <nhaines> melon: five minutes isn't really enough time to get a response from IRC. :)
[11:55] <nhaines> It's pretty likely that the following will work for the MX4 as well. http://askubuntu.com/questions/616245/tether-ubuntu-bq-phone
[11:55] <nhaines> And of course, in due time it'll find its way into the network settings as a fully supported feature. :)
[11:56] <ogra_> nhaines, melon was asking about wifi AP :)
[11:56] <ogra_> but yeah, USB tethering is definitely a fallback
[11:58] <melon> Allright thanks! Yeah. Thing is I have this tablet I bring with me everywhere. It only has Wifi so I kind of need a hotspot.
[11:58] <melon> But I mean apart from that I'm hyped out the roof over the new phone
[11:59] <rsalveti> ogra_: yeah, would be really nice to land that now
[12:00] <rsalveti> wonder if there were any UI design changes
[12:00] <rsalveti> maybe bfiller knows better (wifi hotspot)
[12:01] <ogra_> i just know that ken said the silo wasnt ready when we talked about it ... but that was weeks ago
[12:02] <melon> I saw wifi hotspot mentioned in some update notes the other day. But that's the only place I've seen it. (That and in the source code). On the forums the story goes prety much like here. USB works.
[12:03] <nhaines> ogra_: oh, I always think of celluar tethering as kind of one thing.
[12:03] * nhaines waves hand vaguely.
[12:03] <ogra_> :)
[12:04] <nhaines> But yes, my Nexus 7 is wifi only, so whether I'm dualbooting or not, if I'm using it away from home my phone needs to be in Android, not Ubuntu. For now. :)
[12:06] <melon> Man now I have this nasty situation. I need a new phone soon. Either I get the latest Nexus or I get the new MX4 with ubuntu. I want the MX4 but I don't really feel like buying it and hoping it gets implemented soon, they will only be on sale for one month.
[12:06] <melon> I'll wait for kenvandine and see
[12:07] <Elleo> melon: I think jgdx has been doing a lot of work on that, he might be able to give a good idea as to the current state of it
[12:29] <jgdx> melon, Hi, we currently need to find a way to keep the phone alive as long as the hotspot is active. This is in a discussion phase at the moment.
[12:30] <melon> Oh allright
[12:30] <jgdx> awake rather
[12:31] <melon> So I take it you have gotten it to actually share network for some time, and now you need a good implementation. So it most likely is coming, at leat?
[12:31] <jgdx> melon, correct. If you're savvy and want to try the current implementation, here's a script you can run http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mathieu-tl/+junk/touch-hotspot/view/head:/hotspot.py
[12:33] <melon> Allright. Well, I can deal with some waiting. Got my old phone if I really nead AP NOW! So in that case I might actually get the MX4 today. Just out of curiosity, are we talking months, weeks or days until it's in?
[12:33] <melon> Thanks for the script. I'll definitely check it out.
[12:37] <jgdx> melon, I don't really know, but when the discussion ends and a solution is chosen, we can fast track this I am sure. So weeks?
[12:37] <Elleo> jgdx: can't you ask for a wakelock like media-hub does?
[12:39] <jgdx> Elleo, yeah but from where?
[12:39] <jgdx> the process that asks for the wakelock needs to be long running, i.e. not system settings and not a 'dispatcher script' (NM callback on if events).
[12:40] <Elleo> ah, I see
[12:40] <jgdx> so it's either indicator-network or network-manager,
[12:40] <jgdx> and that requires some planning
[12:40] <Elleo> yeah
[12:41] <melon> Sweet! If I'd been in the loop I'd definitely help with what I can. But I've never written anything except for personal mini-projects so I'm not sure I'd be any help in an ongoing project. However I'm looking to get into development for ubuntu-touch. It might be the thing that actually takes me out of project euler. (y)
[12:42] <jgdx> melon, testing is usually pretty easy to do, so if you want to be part of that, PM your email and I'll give you instructions when it's ready.
[12:44] <melon> taken
[12:54] <zzarr> I get the error I got an error while building "make *** no rule to make target /android.config'. stop" when I run make (using cm as android base)
[13:16] <popey> jgdx: i always get excited when I get bug mail from bug 1241986 :)
[13:16] <jgdx> popey, :) are you close to such a network?
[13:17] <popey> no, but I know people who are, who moan at me all the time about this
[13:17] <popey> so I moan by proxy
[13:17] <popey> also, it's one of the first bugs I filed in Ubuntu touch :)
[13:17] <brunch875> That really impacts me so I can use eduroam
[13:19] <jgdx> popey, brunch875: If you can help test the silo when it's ready, that'd be great.
[13:19] <jgdx> there are debs if you feel adventurous
[13:19] <brunch875> give me the instructions and I'll do it
[13:23] <jgdx> brunch875, awesome. Download [1] and extract. Make the phone image writable. Copy libsystemsettings1_0.3+15.10.….deb ubuntu-system-settings_0.3+15.10.….deb to the phone and install them using $ sudo dpkg --force-all -i *.deb. [1] http://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/generic-mediumtests-builder-wily-armhf/199/artifact/work/output/*zip*/output.zip
[13:24] <jgdx> brunch875, if you're unsure how to downgrade after testing (if you want that), just let me know.
[13:24] <jgdx> there should be a silo real soon however
[13:25] <brunch875> I'm not sure if I'll be able to go to college tomorrow morning
[13:25] <brunch875> But I'll sure try to
[13:30] <jgdx> abeato, hi, I'm testing call forwarding on my device, and I get operation failed on all forwardings using the script
[13:30] <jgdx> question is why? Got coverage
[13:31] <abeato> jgdx, that depends on the operator, not all support all types of call forwardins
[13:31] <abeato> *forwarding
[13:31] <abeato> jgdx, in fact some force the forwarding the to voice mail
[13:32] <jgdx> abeato, that might be it.. hard/impossible to detect I assume
[13:32] <abeato> jgdx, would be good if you have another SIMs to try
[13:33] <jgdx> abeato, right, testing on my private sim which has a voice mail service enabled, so there's the answer.
[13:33] * jgdx fetches other sim
[13:33] <abeato> great
[13:35] <jgdx> brunch875, thanks!
[13:41] <jgdx> abeato, works :)
[13:41] <abeato> jgdx, :)
[13:42] <peat-psuwit> What does this line mean in account-polld.log:
[13:42] <peat-psuwit> Error while polling 3: Token expired
[13:43] * ogra_ bets it means that a token expired ...
[13:43] <ogra_> ... just guessing though
[13:44] <blitz00> Hi. Is there some guide anywhere to run Xorg nested in Mir ? I think i've installed the right packages, however I don't know how to actualy start X.. tried Xorg -mir X -mirSocket /run/mir_socket yet it complains it can't find a device
[13:45] <peat-psuwit> It appears repeatedly. And account-polld uses approximately 20% of CPU.
[13:45] <blitz00> screen sorry
[13:48] * brobostigon is trying to make sense of the sailfish os pebble app source code.
[13:49] <ogra_> peat-psuwit, try to remove your U1 account and re-add it
[13:52] <dobey> ogra_: probably twitter or g+ token. i don't think polld cares about u1 token
[13:52] <ogra_> ah
[13:52] <ogra_> peat-psuwit, ^^ there yu got an expert :)
[13:52] <dobey> "expert"
[13:53] <peat-psuwit> dobey: Messages doesn't go away when I removed account. Adding U1 account again hangs at account type selection.
[13:54] <dobey> peat-psuwit: did you delete your twitter and/or google account? or just u1?
[13:55] <jgdx> No notification or alarms end on my meizu atm. r41
[13:55] <peat-psuwit> dobey: Just U1. I'll try to remove others.
[13:55] <dobey> i am pertty sure that polld doesn't care about u1 tokens
[13:56] <dobey> because it's just polling the twitter or google for notifications, and not using push at all
[13:57] <peat-psuwit> dobey: Ok, messages stops when I remove Google accnout.
[13:58] <peat-psuwit> dobey: But shouldn't it do something automatically?
[13:58] <dobey> account-polld should probably create a notification for those cases that tells you what token is expired and give you a way to open accounts and log in again
[13:59] <dobey> and should probably flag an invalid token as invalid and ignore it until it's refreshed or whatever
[13:59] <dobey> peat-psuwit: feel free to file a bug against account-polld about that
[13:59] <dobey> (please do, even)
[14:12] <brobostigon> i need to work out how account-polld creates notifications, and then create a background deamon that monitors those notifications and pushes them to a connected pebble.
[14:15] <melon> So how close is ubuntu touch to ubuntu desktop? Can I for example build gimp for the armhf architecture and it would run? (albeit with an uncontrollable ui)?
[14:16] <ogra_> why would you build something thats alreday there
[14:17] <melon> oh, it is? cool
[14:17] <ogra_> there are ways to run Xmir (pretty much by trashing your installation though) on the phone already ... so theoretically you can run any X app
[14:17] <melon> But say, if it wasn't. Would it work that way? (is that how it works?)
[14:17] <jgdx> mpt, hi, we have call forwarding and WPA-EP coming up in the form of silos. Call forwarding is in silo 22 if you want to give it a go.
[14:18] <ogra_> and for apps that natively support Mir (Qt and Gtk3) you dont even need XMir
[14:18] <melon> How does it work when you trash your installation? Can you always plug it into you computer and reflash?
[14:18] <ogra_> so yes, gimp could work with the necessary hackery
[14:18] <ogra_> yeah, you can re-flash
[14:18] <melon> Sweet.
[14:18] <jgdx> mpt, in that, there is contact import, but it's not 100% as spec. Created bug 1467816 for that.
[14:20] <brobostigon> whats the basic subsystem that manages/pushes notifications, account-polld seems to only work with the three webapps.
[14:20] <melon> So I take it Meizu put another bootloader on the ubuntu edition then, if it's open to just reflash
[14:21] <ogra_> melon, it is th same as on every MX4 international edition
[14:21] <ogra_> the international one is open ...
[14:21] <ogra_> only the chinese edition is locked down
[14:21] <ogra_> (but you cant just re-flash the android device with ubuntu ... partition schemes are different)
[14:22] <melon> Was just about to ask that
[14:23] <sturmflut2> brobostigon: There are multiple ways. There is a push notification service that relies on the push.ubuntu.com server, that is e.g. used by Telegram. Then there is account-polld, which does polling for Google, Twitter and Facebook, because those providers won't change their system to use the push notification server.
[14:23] <ogra_> you need some flash tool that re-partitions ... and the right input file with the right size values
[14:24] <brobostigon> sturmflut2: ok, i see, so i will have to design into it to monitor both those notification sources?
[14:24] <melon> But it's doable to go android->ubuntu and vice versa, just you need read up a bit? Or are those sizes proparitary or something?
[14:25] <ogra_> the sizes are public, not sure the tools are though
[14:25] <ogra_> (and if they are they most likely only run on windows)
[14:26] <sturmflut2> melon, ogra_: The MTK tool is public, it also runs on Linux, but are all the files public? The Meizu kernel release does not contain the preloader, Little Kernel etc.
[14:26] <ogra_> ah, yeah, bq offers whole zips for the images on their website ... meizu probably doesnt
[14:26] <sturmflut2> brobostigon: What are you trying to do in the end? Just monitor all incoming notifications?
[14:27] <ogra_> (zipps to flash with the mtk tool)
[14:27] <brobostigon> sturmflut2: exactly, and then design a system like me and popey were discussing earlier to push those to a pebble over bluetooth.
[14:28] <brunch875> I just flashed ubuntu from bootloader this time
[14:28] <brunch875> works without an issue on the aquaris
[14:28] <brunch875> but it surprises me how it didn't wipe anything
[14:28] <brunch875> is there a way to nuke everything and format when flashing?
[14:28] <ogra_> ubuntu-device-flash only wipes if you explicitly tell i to
[14:29] <ogra_> *tell it to
[14:29] <brunch875> I suppose it's --wipe
[14:29] <ogra_> right
[14:29] <brunch875> does that absolutely nuke everything?
[14:29] <brunch875> aha then I'll toy until it breaks >:)
[14:29] <ogra_> it rm's all stuff in the writable partition
[14:30] <brunch875> what if I $ phablet-config writable-image?
[14:30] <brunch875> then sudo break the system
[14:30] <brunch875> is there a way to 'format'?
[14:30] <sturmflut2> brobostigon: Ah! Hm, I don't know if the notification subsystem has an API for that.
[14:31] <sturmflut2> brobostigon: And AFAIK in the future there will be a third way to generate notifications
[14:31] <brobostigon> sturmflut2: ok, oh well, so it just needs to monitor push.ubuntu.com and account-polld then seperatly for both for notifications?
[14:32] <brobostigon> sturmflut2: elaborate? if you can please.
[14:33] <sturmflut2> brobostigon: We discussed this yesterday, as far as I understood there will be a generic framework on the device you can plug your own code into and then generate notifications.
[14:34] <sturmflut2> brobostigon: How are you going to monitor the services? Do they have an API for that?
[14:36] <brobostigon> sturmflut2: all the pebble is designed for, is to show notifications form your phone, so ie, something needs to be designed to monitor those notifications and their text, and then push that to the pebble, i am just reading up on how data is pushed to the pebble fw form other pebble apps on other platforms.
[14:38] <brobostigon> sturmflut2: what i was thinking of, was some sort of background deamon to do the job.
[14:45] <peat-psuwit> dobey: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/account-polld/+bug/1470132
[14:52] <matv1> hi kemmko1
[15:00] <kemmko1> matv1: hi
[15:00] <matv1> kemmko1 I filed a bug the other day to dialer-app but noticed just now that something similar was filed against ubuntu-ux
[15:00] <matv1> the ux bug is assigned to you. mine is: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dialer-app/+bug/1469467
[15:01] <kemmko1> *having a look*
[15:01] <matv1> thing is. I have some parts that i feel are important that are not in the other bug.
[15:01] <matv1> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ux/+bug/1460301
[15:01] <kemmko1> matv1: yes, there is a similar one already
[15:01] <matv1> Is thereany way to merge them without loosing what I added?
[15:02] <kemmko1> matv1: yes, you can copy&paste the parts you think are important into the bug description of the older bug
[15:02] <kemmko1> matv1: and then mark the one you filed as a duplicate
[15:03] <matv1> kemmko1 okay will do that. thanks
[15:03] <kemmko1> matv1: or you add a comment with your additions
[15:03] <matv1> ok I will see which makes more sense
[15:04] <kemmko1> matv1: if you update the bug description, it would be great if you could mark it as "Update" so people know that this is a new addition
[15:04] <kemmko1> matv1: hope it helps :)
[15:05] <matv1> me too :)
[15:06] <kemmko1> matv1: also, if you file bugs against ubuntu-ux could you be so kind to find the corresponding package and file it against the bug too
[15:06] <kemmko1> matv1: here is a list of all projects: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Avengers
[15:06] <kemmko1> matv1: even if design is aware of the bug, developers need to be too so they can plan ahead
[15:37] <kalikiana> hrm
[15:37] <kalikiana> now that was weird, I got a call, and it showed another person's name
[15:39] <kalikiana> so, I have texts from the real person, and the caller I just had, from somebody else, showing the same name....
[16:01] <brunch875> jgdx: when installing the debs I got some warnings styled
[16:01] <brunch875> ubuntu-system-settings-autopilot depends on python3-dbusmock (>= 0.14); however:
[16:01] <brunch875> Package python3-dbusmock is not installed.
[16:01] <brunch875> is that fine?
[16:02] <ogra_> uh, autopilot ?
[16:02] <ogra_> are you planning to have your device run automated tests ?
[16:02] <brunch875> for science!
[16:03] <brunch875> I want to help test if the new wifis work on eduroam
[16:03] <kenvandine> brunch875, just don't install the ubuntu-system-settings-autopilot package
[16:03] <ogra_> well, but i ddoubt you want any autopilot testing ... you want real-world testing :)
[16:04] <brunch875> whoops! Too late? :D
[16:04] <kenvandine> dpkg -P ubuntu-system-settings-autopilot
[16:05] <brunch875> it doesn't really matter installing it though, does it?
[16:05] <ogra_> it might break a lot
[16:06] <ogra_> it is for unattende automated testing
[16:06] <ogra_> so it creates fake stuff on the phone and all
[16:07] <brunch875> hmph, does kevandine's instruction solve everything? I wouldn't care to format if you suspect it might interfere
[16:22] <peat-psuwit> Does Ubuntu have support for Qualcomm's time daemon?
[16:25] <ogra_> peat-psuwit, if it is in the android HAL it could get that ... though the time management is usually done via regular ubuntu tools on the ubuntu side
[16:39] <brunch875> is there a way to reset the phone entirely? (not just the writable partition)
[16:40] <awe> peat-psuwit, what does their functionality does their time daemon provide? We have NTP support
[16:40] <brobostigon> brunch875: reboot into recovery, full wipe.
[16:41] <brunch875> cheerio! I'll get right to it
[16:41] <peat-psuwit> awe: I think it allows me to set hardware clock. Normal "hwclock -w" doesn't work on my phone.
[16:41] <awe> ah, ok
[16:43] <dobey> awe: it keeps time reasonably correct across reboots on Nexus5 and similar devices, iirc
[16:44] <awe> k
[16:45] <ogra_> well, the proper fix would be to get hwclock to work
[16:46] <peat-psuwit> hwclock: ioctl(RTC_SET_TIME) to /dev/rtc to set the time failed.: Invalid argument
[16:47] <peat-psuwit> That's error from hwclock.
[16:48] <jrbt> In which language are develop most of native apps on Ubuntu Touch?
[16:49] <ogra_> jrbt, QML and javascript ... if you want to go deeper you can use C++/Qt
[16:49] <jrbt> +ed*
[16:49] <ogra_> (but most use the former)
[16:49] <jrbt> ? "the former"?
[16:49] <ogra_> QML and javascript ....
[16:49] <jrbt> ok :)
[16:49] <jrbt> thanks!
[16:50] <jrbt> Qml is like qt? for the design instead of html/css on firefoxos?
[16:52] <brunch875> brobostigon: wiping from recovery left traces
[16:52] <ogra_> yes, there is a bug open for that
[16:53] <brobostigon> brunch875: i suppose, you could put into fastboot mode, wipe all the partitions, and rebuild everything from scratch?
[16:53] <brobostigon> it into*
[16:53] <brunch875> that highly risks killing the phone, doesn't it? :p
[16:54] <brobostigon> oh yes.
[16:55] <brunch875> so... there really isn't an easy way to wipe and reflash... is there?
[16:55] <ogra_> try using u-d-f with --bootstrap
[16:55] <ogra_> that should format the partitions iirc
[16:57] <brunch875> so something like ubuntu-device-flash touch --channel=ubuntu-touch/rc-proposed/bq-aquaris.en --bootstrap -udf
[16:57] <brunch875> oh, by udf you meant the program
[16:57] <ogra_> yes, thats short for ubuntu-device-flash
[16:57] <ogra_> and you need a recovery with adb enabled for this
[16:58] <jgdx> brunch875, sorry, you have to only install the debs I mentioned
[16:58] <ogra_> (not -udf ... i was just lazy typing the full name)
[16:58] <brunch875> jgdx: my bad :-D
[16:59] <brunch875> I'm trying to wipe so it doesn't mess up the results
[16:59] <jgdx> brunch875, you don't have to wipe though.. only flash
[17:00] <brunch875> doesn't really matter to me to wipe, so I'll try to clean it the cleanest
[17:00] <brunch875> besides, I like formatting often all my devices
[17:11] <brunch875> I get it now
[17:11] <brunch875> flashing from bootstrap seems to be failing
[17:11] <brunch875> The steps I'm following are rebooting the phone into bootloader
[17:11] <brunch875> ubuntu-device-flash touch --channel=ubuntu-touch/rc-proposed/bq-aquaris.en --bootstrap --wipe
[17:12] <jgdx> --bootstrap implies --wipe I think, and maybe call that outside the bootloader?
[17:12] <brunch875> then the phone boots into recovery, stays there until it gets bored of no interaction and eventually reboots
[17:12] <ogra_> as i said, you need the open recovery img and need to define it in an option
[17:12] <ogra_> the default recovery does not have adb
[17:12] * brunch875 is highly confused
[17:15] <ahoneybun> brunch875: sounds like you need a custom recovery
[17:15] <ahoneybun> I have TWRP
[17:15] <brunch875> -oh-
[17:15] <ogra_> you need the right recovery that is promoted in the documentation for flashing
[17:15] <brunch875> is this fine with the b4 e4.5?
[17:15] <ogra_> http://askubuntu.com/questions/602035/how-do-i-use-ubuntu-device-flash-with-the-bq-aquaris-e4-5-and-aquaris-e5
[17:16] <brunch875> ogra rocks my socks
[17:29] <brunch875> oh yes that did the trick!
[17:30] <brunch875> as a token of gratitude I'll do my best to help you guys out
[18:00] <jrbt> 'back
[18:01] <jrbt> Uh.. to create a QML + Javascript app is it HTML5 App on the Ubuntu SDK?
[18:05] <bzoltan_> jrbt: no, the qml apps are qml apps
[18:05] <Tassadar> mariogrip: you tested ubuntu touch installation via the multirom manager app?
[18:05] <jrbt> bzoltan_, oh ok, but there are a lot of QML app with ... which one it is?
[18:06] <jrbt> So what is HTML5 App?
[18:07] <brobostigon> its basiclly an app written in html running inside a html renderer, i would presume.
[18:11] <jrbt> Ok, so for a "normal" native app it is QML App with Simple UI (qmlproject)?
[18:13] <bzoltan_> jrbt: for prototyping that is the easiest. The best is the qmake project with simple qml UI
[18:14] <jrbt> Ok.
[18:20] <jrbt> ok and what is framework?
[18:21] <jrbt> (sorry I'm beginning)
[18:21] <jrbt> ubuntu15.04 or ubuntu15.04-qml?
[18:21] <jrbt> (or doesn't matter?)
[18:29] <dobey> jrbt: you might want to join #ubuntu-app-devel
[18:29] <jrbt> ok!
[19:54] <Se7> hi guys this working?
[19:54] <Se7> http://www.whatsappfor.org/?s=whatsapp+ubuntu+phone&submit=Search
[19:59] <dobey> no
[20:00] <dobey> WhatsApp *will* ban your account if you use unofficial clients. if you want whatsapp for ubuntu, bug whatsapp support to let them know you want it on ubuntu :)
[20:00] <Se7> tnx dobey i thought that :)
[20:00] <nhaines> dobey: can I just bug you to bug them for me? :)
[20:01] <Se7> lol
[20:01] <nhaines> Actually I'm happy enough with Telegram that I'm forcing my friends to switch, ha.
[20:01] <dobey> nhaines: sure. that'll be $50,000
[20:01] <nhaines> dobey: I'll take two!
[20:01] * dobey waits for the paypal
[20:02] * nhaines sends via dogecoin
[20:02] <Se7> nhaines, it s very difficult to do that
[20:02] <Se7> force them to switch
[20:02] <Se7> ppl are too ignorant lool
[20:03] <Se7> for that they still using winzozz
[20:03] <nhaines> They're all pretty happy with it so far, so now I count on them to bug their friends too, lol.
[20:03] <nhaines> Besides, Telegram works great on Android, iOS, Windows, and so on, so it's been an easy sell for the most important ones.
[20:04] <Se7> of course but still difficult
[20:04] <om26er> I cannot enable developer mode on wily, help ?
[20:55] <jgdx> kenvandine, pushed fix for setting empty forwardings
[20:56] <jgdx> kenvandine, what else did your testing reveal? What are your thoughts on the checkbox?
[21:00] <jgdx> it's actually per spec.. :s https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PhoneApp?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=phone-settings-call-forwarding-number.png
[21:16] <SturmFlut> scoperegistry is running amok on my arale, any logs I should collect?
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[10:27] <greyback> anpok_: hey, any ETA on silo4 landing?
[10:29] <greyback> hmm seems to be building with lots of failures, I'll assume it'll be a few days at least
[11:37] <anpok_> greyback: yes
[11:37] <anpok_> greyback: waiting on qtubuntu papi .. still need to port the older gtk+ used in vivid..
[12:03] <alf_> anpok_: You said something about making the input stack treat the device as touchscreen instead of touchpad?
[12:03] <anpok_> yes
[12:04] <anpok_> the flags array that indicates the available keys (EV_KEY) needs the BTN_TOUCH bit to be set and the evdev properties array needs the DIRECT_TOUCH (or TOUCH_DIRECT?) to be set.
[12:07] <alf_> anpok_: INPUT_PROP_DIRECT ?
[12:07] <anpok_> ah yes
[12:09] * alf_ wonders where to use this with the evdev python bindings
[12:12] <kdub> AlbertA, thanks for the vulkan video
[12:13] <anpok_> there is a capabilities property
[12:13] <anpok_> but that seems to be read only
[12:14] <anpok_> alf_: but there is a chance that only setting BTN_TOUCH is enought (provided that the ABS_MT_POSITION_{X,Y} touch axes are configured)
[13:25] <greyback> alf_: hey, when you launch mir with --vt=8, it correctly starts on vt8. But should it also switch the current vt to vt8?
[13:25] <greyback> seb128: ^^
[13:25] <seb128> thanks
[13:25] <seb128> note that on that snappy image, for some reason the lightdm log has warnings like
[13:25] <seb128> "Error using VT_ACTIVATE 7 on /dev/console: Inappropriate ioctl for
[13:25] <seb128> device"
[13:25] <greyback> hmm, sounds relevant
[13:25] <seb128> so maybe that's the issue
[13:26] <seb128> unsure why it's doing that though
[13:26] <greyback> seb128: what hardware you using?
[13:26] <seb128> snappy is using the standard distro/kernel
[13:26] <seb128> inspiron 3000, all intel
[13:26] <greyback> should be ok
[13:26] <seb128> ubuntu standard doesn't have that issue
[13:26] <seb128> unsure why
[13:26] <seb128> or unsure why snappy has it
[13:27] <seb128> it's the same software stack, just the image is built differently
[13:28] <alf_> seb128: greyback: it should normally switch vts
[13:28] <seb128> is there any log that could indicate why it fails it that's not working?
[13:29] <greyback> seb128: is usc definitely being started after the lightdm x session? In case X is preventing the vt switch somehow (guess)
[13:30] <seb128> I think so
[13:30] <seb128> well, usc is not started before I try to log in as far as I can tell
[13:30] <seb128> and logging in unity8 session doesn't start X, does it?
[13:31] <greyback> nope
[13:32] <greyback> well it shouldn't, unless something tries to spawn it
[15:48] <attente> hi. when i run the mir_demo_server using the packaged version in W, mir-demos=0.13.3+15.10.20150617-0ubuntu1, the server just freezes up, no mouse input, no way to switch VTs
[16:01] <AlbertA> attente: ummm... I just tried here in a haswell laptop, using W and same pkg version: "sudo mir_demo_server --vt 1" it worked ok for me
[16:02] <AlbertA> attente: do you have a thread backtrace?
[16:04] <attente> AlbertA: it doesn't crash, and there's very little on output on stdout/stderr
[16:04] <attente> it's almost as if it doesn't respond to any input
[16:04] <attente> including the vt switch shortcut
[16:05] <AlbertA> attente: umm that can happen if you start the server without sudo
[16:06] <attente> AlbertA: doh. thanks :)
[16:48] <dandrader> I'm trying without success to print mir input log for unity8
[16:48] <dandrader> should MIR_SERVER_INPUT_REPORT=log and MIR_SERVER_LEGACY_INPUT_REPORT=log still work?
[16:53] <AlbertA> dandrader: they should
[16:53] <dandrader> oh, wait! I think it did work!
[16:53] <dandrader> AlbertA, sorry for the noise
[16:54] <AlbertA> dandrader: no prob
[17:38] <racarr> Howdy :)
[17:51] <dandrader> racarr, so mir still uses android-input's EventHub and InputReader, right?
[17:51] <racarr> dandrader: For now ;)
[17:52] <dandrader> trying to get that detailed logging android-input has...
[17:52] <racarr> dandrader: You have to enable it with the ifdefs in the files
[17:52] <racarr> then ANDROID_LOG_TAGS=*:v
[17:52] <racarr> MIR_SERVER_LEGACY_INPUT_REPORT=log
[17:52] <dandrader> ahhhh!!!! missed the ANDROID_LOG_TAGS!
[17:53] <racarr> It's so bad :( sorry
[17:53] <dandrader> it's been ages since I last used it
[17:53] <dandrader> racarr, thanks
[17:59] <dandrader> racarr, all those android-input notifications of input devices coming and going etc they will be logged only by usc right? unity8 will get "high level" mir input events from usc like an app, right?
[18:00] <racarr> dandrader: True, yeah...inputreader and eventhub shouldn't be used in U8
[18:02] <dandrader> AlbertA, where does usc logs go?
[18:02] <dandrader> not in .cache/upstart, right
[18:03] <AlbertA> dandrader: they go into /var/log/lightdm/unity-system-compositor.log
[18:05] <dandrader> AlbertA, wow, would never find it. thanks!
[18:16] <dandrader> AlbertA, do you know how to flush usc log messages? they don't appear in the log file as soon as they happen
[18:16] <dandrader> AlbertA, so I have to touch the screen to get some more log happening so that the log file does get updated
[18:22] <AlbertA> dandrader: I don't know. I usually just do tail -f
[18:22] <AlbertA> messages show up fine....
[18:23] <dandrader> AlbertA, that's what I'm doing. But the log file doens't get updated/written after every single message
[18:23] <dandrader> AlbertA, only after a number of them have been written. and sometimes it even stops in the middle of a log line
[18:28] <AlbertA> dandrader: ummm strange.. these are the android input stack message or everything?
[18:28] <dandrader> AlbertA, android-input.
[18:28] <dandrader> AlbertA, didn't enable other logging to tell
[18:29] <AlbertA> let me see how they print
[18:30] <dandrader> racarr, "[InputDispatcher]Dropping event because there is no focused window or focused application." <- this shouldn't ever happen, right?
[18:30] <dandrader> racarr, in usc while unity8 is running
[18:34] <racarr> dandrader: Hmm. I don't think it should no
[18:36] <AlbertA> dandrader: so it goes through the mir logger which doesn't flush after every line so probably explains the behavior
[18:36] <dandrader> AlbertA, thanks for looking into it. should I report a bug?
[18:37] <dandrader> racarr, this happens when running autopilot tests. as they create a /dev/input/eventX file for the fake keyboard
[18:37] <dandrader> racarr, the first time it works. but from the second time onwards it does not
[18:37] <dandrader> racarr, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/1468029
[18:39] <AlbertA> dandrader: yeah
[18:45] <dandrader> AlbertA, https://bugs.launchpad.net/mir/+bug/1470204
[18:46] <racarr> Trying to figure out what could be going on...
[18:48] <racarr> dandrader: I dunno...unfortunately too a lot of relevant code to key focus selection was just replaced with the new input dispatcher
[18:48] <racarr> unfortunately and or perhaps fortunately
[18:51] <dandrader> racarr, at least it's easy to reproduce
[19:04] <anpok> racarr: hi
[19:04] <anpok> racarr: hm device introspection is kind of required for raw events because clients would observe/receive them per device rather then per surface?
[19:27] <anpok> racarr: could also be someone not focusing the surface
[19:28] <anpok> i mean .. there were more focus related changes in the past
[19:28] <anpok> in usc..
[19:56] <kgunn> racarr: so can i assign you to that bug ?
[19:56] <kgunn> https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1468029
[19:56] <kgunn> it needs someone to love and care for it
[20:08] <tedg> I'm getting a "std::exception::what: No appropriate client platform module found"
[20:08] <tedg> How do I tell mir client what backend to use?
[20:28] <tedg> Okay, fixed that.
[20:29] <tedg> RAOF, So I seem to be starting Xmir, and it seems to be happy, but Unity8 isn't rendering anything. I don't think it's getting that first buffer swap.
[20:29] <tedg> RAOF, What am I doing wrong? ;-)
[20:29] * tedg should be a talk show host.
[20:32] <kgunn> racarr: i went ahead and gave that one to you
[22:07] <racarr> kgunn: Oh you're back, I just sent you an email but, roger re:text crash bug
[22:07] <kgunn> thanks racarr
[23:50] <RAOF> tedg: Have you connected a client to XMir? It's not going to render anything unless a client renders.
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:38.958883
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2015-06-30-#ubuntu-ko
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[00:00] <HolyKnight> http://m.media.daum.net/m/media/society/newsview/20150629165513167
[00:01] <Work^Seony> 네 사실 기사 자체가 확인되지 않은 기사더라구요 ㅎㅎ
[00:08] <razGon_Xch2> 뭐... 그러기 힘들어요. 중국에 들어간 돈이 얼마인데.
[02:24] <bluedusk> hello?
[02:25] <bluedusk> anyone?
[02:26] <Work^Seony> 안녕하세요
[02:32] <bluedusk> 안녕하세요 (__)
[02:33] <samahui_ws> 안녕하세요~
[02:33] <samahui_ws> 밤샘하고 잠시 눈붙인다는게 푸욱~ 10시30분까지 자버렸네요 ㅎㅎ
[02:48] <samahui_ws> 하루의 반나절이 사라졌군요... 아무도 안깨우다니 ㅜㅜ
[02:50] <samahui_ws> 점심 식사들 맛나게 하세요~
[03:34] <razGon_Xch2> 헉.
[03:34] <razGon_Xch2> 부럼.
[04:16] <PotatoGim> 언터처블하신....
[05:31] <jun_> 안녕하세요~~~
[05:31] <jun_> 죽다 살아서 돌아왔습니다 ㅎㅎㅎ
[07:37] <jason_kr_> autowiz: 핑? ㅋ
[07:52] <ipeter> PotatoGim: 혹시 R 사용 잘 나와있는 한글 교재 추천 가능하신가요?
[07:54] <Darkcircle> R은 언어를 배우기 전에 알고리즘부터 배우고 나서 써야 할듯 싶데요. 모르고 쓰면 쓰는거 자체가 독이 될 만큼 .
[07:55] <Darkcircle> 슬라이드 쉐어 검색해보시면 설명 잘된 ppt 있어요. 한번 찾아보시는게 ..
[08:07] <PotatoGim> 어제 제가 추천드린 강의면 어느 정도는 충분할 것 같아요
[08:07] <PotatoGim> 교수님이 PDF 교재도 만들어 놓으셔서..
[08:08] <PotatoGim> 웬만큼은 나오거든요 ㅎ
[08:08] <PotatoGim> 알고리즘이야 어차피 직접 구현하는게 아니니까 상황에 맞는 녀석으로 찾아쓰면 그만이니...
[08:08] <PotatoGim> 어떤 상황에 어떤 것을 써야한다라는 것만 감이 있어도 사실 흉내 정도는...
[08:10] <PotatoGim> 음... 저도 R 관련된 국내 출판 서적을 사서 본 적이 없다보니 추천이 애매하네요..
[08:11] <PotatoGim> http://book.naver.com/bookdb/book_detail.nhn?bid=6977446
[08:11] <PotatoGim> 번역이 나쁘지 않다면
[08:11] <PotatoGim> 위 책을 강력히... 추천드립니다 ㅎㅎ
[08:18] <bluedusk> 헐.. R도 하시고 Go도 하시고..RGO!!
[08:18] <bluedusk> Darkcircle옹
[08:22] <commania> 안녕하세요
[08:22] <commania> 한 사흘째 컴퓨터 포맷중인것 같네요ㅠㅠ
[08:23] <pchero_work> 안녕하세요.
[08:23] <commania> 우분투 그놈 부팅 이미지를 USB에 넣어서
[08:23] <commania> 라이브 부팅은 성공하는데 부팅 파티션 선택에서 기타옵션을 선택하면 아무것도 안 뜹니다.
[08:24] <pchero_work> 음..
[08:24] <jun_> 흠...
[08:24] <commania> SSD / 하드 파티션이 꼬인 걸까요?ㅠㅠ
[08:24] <jun_> Elementary OS 설치할때 저도 비슷한 현상이 있었던거 같은데...
[08:24] <pchero_work> 하드디스크가 인식이 안되나요?
[08:25] <commania> 아까까진 읜도우도 설치 다 하고 부팅이 안되어서 SSD MBR을 몇 번이고 리빌드해서 겨우 성공했고요
[08:25] <commania> 인식이야 되죠
[08:25] <commania> 라이브 gparted에선 인식이 됩니다...
[08:26] <commania> 그런데 인스톨러에서 설치 위치 정할때 기타로 들어가서 파티션을 세부 조정하려 하면
[08:26] <commania> 인스톨러가 꺼진다 해야 하나요. 여튼 아무것도 안 뜨고 멈춥니다.
[08:27] <commania> 허허... 해결했습니다. 영어로 설정하고 진행하니 걍 되네요.
[08:28] <pchero_work> 아...
[08:28] <pchero_work> 다행입니다. :)
[08:28] <commania> 전에도 한국어로 설정할 때만 파티션창이 위아래로 늘어나는 버그가 있어서 혹시나했더니...
[08:28] <commania> 감사합니다:)
[09:46] <Darkcircle> bluedusk, 아무래도 린돌옹 배신한거 같은 냄새가 ㅡ,.ㅡ
[09:48] <FriedChicken_> 그리고 저번주 토일요일에는 금년들어 날씨가 가장 좋은 날이었더군요 ㅡ.,ㅡ
[11:49] <autowiz> 퐁
[12:29] <jason_kr_> Darkcircle: & bluedusk ㅋㅋㅋ 작년부터 같은 결론만...쯔쯥? ㅎ
[12:29] <jason_kr_> 좀 쉬삼 auto wiz 쫑!
[12:35] <autowiz> 행복한 하루들 되셨나요?
[13:04] <ipeter> 눈에 날벌레가 들어가서 날벼락을 맞았습니다.
[13:04] <ipeter> 눈이 퉁퉁 부었어요
[13:04] <ipeter> 너무 아프네요.
[13:04] <autowiz> 병원은 갔다오셨어요?
[13:04] <autowiz> 벌래는 꺼내셨구요?? ㅠㅠ
[13:46] <ipeter> sp
[13:46] <ipeter> 네..
[13:46] <ipeter> 꺼냈는데 너무 아파요.
[13:46] <ipeter> 고름이 줄줄 나오더군요
[13:46] <ipeter> 눈 아래꺼플쪽에요..ㅠ
[13:47] <pchero_work> 헉....
[14:09] <pchero_work> 오늘 날씨가 너무 좋네요..
[14:53] <HolyKnight> @wbyth9004: 뿡이란 앱이 있는데
[14:53] <HolyKnight> 길거리에서 급똥인 사람들을 위한 공용화장실이나 열린 화장실을 표시해주는 앱. 심지어 리뷰도 올려주곤 한다고 pic.twitter.com/orHK0qja8I
[20:06] <Work^Seony> 안녕하세요
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ubuntu-chat
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2015-06-30-#ubuntu-release
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[09:33] <tseliot> infinity: hey, can you approve nvidia-graphics-drivers-346, nvidia-graphics-drivers-346-updates, nvidia-graphics-drivers-340, nvidia-graphics-drivers-340-updates in New (trusty-proposed), please?
[09:33] <tseliot> infinity: or tjaalton won't be able to review them for the SRU
[12:51] <coreycb> RAOF, arges: can one of you review the oslo.messaging sru in the trusty queue? we're waiting on that before testing the recent stable icehouse release in proposed.
[13:30] <arges> coreycb: its almost midnight in his tz, so I'll take a look
[13:31] <coreycb> thanks arges
[15:31] <sil2100> Dear release team, could you discard the network-manager upload that just happened to vivid? Thanks ;) Version 0.9.10.0-4ubuntu15.1.4
[15:32] <sil2100> This should have landed in the overlay instead...
[16:07] <cyphermox> slangasek: thanks ^
[16:11] <slangasek> cyphermox: no problem
[16:11] <slangasek> sil2100: done
[16:18] <rbasak> Please can someone reject docker.io from utopic and vivid unapproved, as we have replacements to supercede them that fix a couple of additional issues we found? Leave trusty though - that one is good to go.
[16:20] <slangasek> rbasak: done
[16:20] <rbasak> Thank you!
[23:44] <bdmurray> slangasek: thinking about the sru-verification team and sru-remove I think the easiest thing is to just add ubuntu-sru to sru-verification as the other option (not using the team anymore) would require a fair bit more work (fixing tools, unsubscribing the team from existing bugs, some documentation updates)
[23:44] <slangasek> bdmurray: ack
[23:45] <bdmurray> the other option makes sense, but doesn't seem worth the effort right now
[23:48] <bdmurray> slangasek: I've invited ubuntu-sru to the sru-verification team
[23:52] <slangasek> bdmurray: accepted, thanks
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:38.982292
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2015-06-30-#ubuntu-motu
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[07:08] <dholbach> good morning
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:38.982866
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2015-06-30-#ubuntu-pl
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[11:23] <m477> serwus
[19:57] <krissss> hej, proszę o podpowiedź jakiego narzędzia użyć do tego aby na podstawie aliasu DNS przekierować usługę na danym porcie z konretnego serwera za NAT
[19:58] <krissss> np. webmin.nazwa.pl -> https://192.168.128.123:10000, a jak wejdę kerio.nazwa.pl -> http://192.168.128.222
[19:58] <krissss> szukam podpowiedzi, walczyłem z nginx ale nie za bardzo mi to wychodzi
[19:58] <krissss> DNS już działa
[19:59] <drathir> dns raczej portow nie obsluguje...
[19:59] <krissss> no właśnie nie :/
[19:59] <krissss> myślałem o SRV ale nie działa na http
[20:01] <krissss> jakieś pomysły?
[20:07] <drathir> to raczej po stronie servera trzeba by osobne ip przypisac i jakies przekierowanie na iptables czy cos w tym stylu...
[20:09] <krissss> wiem, że jest to dość popularne w hostingach tylko nie wiem pod jakim hasłem tego szukać:/
[20:09] <drathir> co nie zmienia faktu, ze zawsze ip mozna dodac po stronie apache i jak sie przpisze do vhosta inne to w teorii z dana domena chyba na dane ip powinno kierowac...
[20:10] <drathir> vhost zobacz z apache czy to nie tego czasem szukasz...
[20:13] <drathir> i jest jeszcze cos takiego, ze np xmpp sie laczac domyslnie na domene automatycznie potrafi wykryc port przypisany do rekordu...
[20:13] <krissss> próbowałem z Apache jako proxy, ale apache przekierowywał mnie na stronę jaką podałem a nie zakrywał adresu .... poza siecią i tak by nie działało bo podaje IP za NAT
[20:14] <drathir> to modrewrite chyba w apache o ile dobrze pamietam to zabaw z adresem tylko nie wiem czy takich tez...
[20:15] <drathir> na ekspertow dobrze by bylo poczekac...
[21:07] <jacekowski> jesli samo http to sie da reverse proxy robic
[21:20] <kmax2> moglby ktos pomoc? mam problem ze znakami na klawiaturze w openboxie, fluxboxie i kazdym innym lekkim menadzerze, o dziwo na gnome wszystko jest ok.
[21:35] <mati75> trzeba ustawić zmienne środowiskowe
[21:35] <mati75> setxkbmap pl
[21:35] <mati75> do autostart
[21:36] <kmax2> wlasnie tak patrze z enie mam nawet folderu .config/openbox/ ;o
[21:36] <kmax2> dziwne
[21:36] <kmax2> dobra zaraz zrobie dodam i zobaczymy czy bedzie smigac :)
[21:36] <mati75> z /etc/xdg skopiować
[21:37] <kmax2> dobra sprawdzam czy pomoglo, zw :)
[21:39] <kmax2> A skad, nadal to samo
[21:40] <kmax2> zamiast slasha mam plus
[21:40] <kmax2> i multum innym bledow
[21:41] <mati75> soa#1
[21:41] <mati75> a locales jaki ustawiony?
[21:41] <kmax2> niezbyt rozumiem, az tak tego nie ogarniam :P
[21:42] <kmax2> gdzie to sprawdzic?
[21:42] <mati75> https://www.thomas-krenn.com/pl/wiki/Konfiguracja_Locales_w_Ubuntu
[21:43] <kmax2> locale -a
[21:44] <kmax2> sry ww
[21:44] <kmax2> http://wklej.org/hash/ee78e110871/
[21:45] <kmax2> Taki wynik
[21:45] <kmax2> jakim cudem tu jest wszystko ok a na openboxie nie..
[21:45] <kmax2> zw
[21:47] <kmax2_> jj
[21:47] <kmax2_> jj sry
[21:48] <kmax2_> Masz jeszcze jakis pomysl co moze byc nie tak?
[23:35] <me_> czesc
[23:35] <me_> jest tu ktos?
[23:57] <m477> tak
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2015-06-30-#ubuntu-kernel
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[13:27] <cyphermox> arges: hello! any news about multipath-modules?
[13:29] <arges> cyphermox: patch is on the ML, smb acked the patch. So it might be applied at some point soon
[13:31] <cyphermox> cool, thanks
[13:32] <smb> arges, of course we may have added dm-queue-length along with dm-service-time ;-P
[13:32] <cyphermox> do you mean you added it as well, or that it should have been done? :)
[13:32] <smb> cyphermox, we could have done but did not
[13:33] <cyphermox> ok
[13:33] <cyphermox> well, either is fine
[13:33] <arges> so for this case, it really just matters at install time right? since this is what gets put into the udeb
[13:33] <cyphermox> yeah, it's just for the installer
[13:33] <smb> yeah as long as the other does not get default one day (which probably is not happening)
[13:33] <arges> so if the package default changes we just need to accomidate that
[13:33] <cyphermox> you could easily install with X and then update to Y after the install
[13:34] <arges> yea and in that case the module is already there
[13:34] <cyphermox> yup
[14:11] <Teduardo> does anyone know what causes cmci storm detected and cmci storm subsided messages during an install of ubuntu 14.04?
[14:12] <Teduardo> i'm testing a server from a new vendor and i've never ever seen that before
[14:22] <arges> Teduardo: sounds like a hardware issue. https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/8/7/916
[14:57] <jsalisbury> **
[14:57] <jsalisbury> ** Ubuntu Kernel Team Meeting - Today @ 17:00 UTC - #ubuntu-meeting
[14:57] <jsalisbury> **
[15:10] <bjf> manjo, didn't you want to discuss something this a.m.?
[15:10] <manjo> bjf, yes I did .. stuck on calls
[15:11] <manjo> bjf, so starts in 40mts ?
[15:12] <bjf> manjo, starts here in this channel whenever you want :-)
[15:13] <manjo> bjf, yes sir
[15:18] <arges> bjf: 81848
[15:40] <manjo> cking, bjf, I have 3 question related to ARM64 ... I am not looking for info on specific patches etc... but just to get an idea about where we are at with these 3 things for 15.10.
[15:40] <manjo> 1. What is the timeline for merging ARM64 + ACPI patches from upstream and linar
[15:40] <manjo> o in 15.10? is ppsati doing that work, can we work with him if our friends find
[15:40] <manjo> some missing patches that we might have to cherry pick from upstream?
[15:41] <manjo> jsalisbury, ^
[15:42] <cking> manjo, which specific ACPI features do you require?
[15:43] <manjo> cking, so I know that a lot of the platform code are already upstream, but some of the driver work is ongoing ... I just want to get a feel for who is tracking those patches
[15:43] <manjo> cking, if not I can track those and send pull reqs
[15:43] <cking> manjo, not me personally
[15:44] <cking> again, "which patches"?
[15:45] <bjf> manjo, we don't have any, one, person specifically tasked with "track linaro ACPI patches that are not upstream"
[15:45] <manjo> cking, like I said at the beginning I am not looking at specific patches ... I just want to get a general idea from you guys
[15:45] <bjf> manjo, if you are tracking things like that you are welcome to submit patch requests to the ML like anyone is
[15:46] <manjo> so that I could send in pull reqs
[15:46] <cking> manjo, the default is that you get what lands in the wily kernel when is released, e.g. 4.1
[15:46] <manjo> cking, cool. I will track the deta and send you any pulls reqs then
[15:46] <cking> or 4.2 pehaps
[15:46] <manjo> cking, will you pull from linaro ?
[15:47] <manjo> cking, coz that leads into my Q2
[15:47] <manjo> What is the delta like between LEG and 15.10 dev kernel? Some of our friends want to drop using LEG and start using 15.10 dev tree as the base tree for arm64 servers. How quickly can we sync dev 15.10 with LEG ?
[15:47] <manjo> s/quicly/frequently
[15:48] <bjf> manjo, upstream in Linus' tree
[15:48] <cking> what's LEG?
[15:48] <bjf> s/in/is/
[15:48] <manjo> linaro engg
[15:49] <cking> manjo, i really can't tell what the delta is, that's a homework question isn't it?
[15:49] <manjo> cking, linaro enterprize group ... ie linaro kernel
[15:49] <bjf> manjo, we don't track everyone's kernel git repo
[15:50] <cking> not in my head, anyway
[15:51] <cking> manjo, i think if you need to know the delta, one can work that out yourself, you have access to the git repos
[15:52] <manjo> ok I was under the assumption that you guys track and pull linaro patches ... that is why I asked
[15:52] <cking> ack
[15:53] <manjo> so I thought you might be able to tell me if there is a 6 month worth of delta or couple of weeks
[15:54] <bjf> manjo, sorry, we just don't know. there are too many kernel git repos for us to track very many. that's certainly not one we do.
[15:56] <manjo> one more question ... but I think I know the ans already ... do you guys plan to pull in 8.1 arch support & smmuv3 support in 15.10 ?
[15:57] <manjo> those patches are still int he works and might not have hit stable ... but from what I hear those might be upstream by october ish
[15:57] <manjo> if not .. do you see any issues with pulling those in for 16.04 dev ?
[15:59] <bjf> manjo, if they hit Linus' tree then we'll likely pull them automatically for 16.04. if they don't reach upstream until oct. then they likely won't make it into 15.10
[16:56] <jsalisbury> ##
[16:56] <jsalisbury> ## Kernel team meeting in 5 minutes
[16:56] <jsalisbury> ##
[17:00] <jsalisbury> ##
[17:00] <jsalisbury> ## Meeting starting now
[17:00] <jsalisbury> ##
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2015-06-30-#ubuntu-tr
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[07:56] <fnoyanisi> selam la linuxcular
[07:56] <fnoyanisi> free software advocates
[09:21] <fnoyanisi> selam thiras
[09:25] <fnoyanisi> chat odasi degil kutuphane sanki
[09:25] <fnoyanisi> kimse konusmuyo yahu
[09:31] <Kartagis> sessiz konus, herkes uyuyor
[09:36] <fnoyanisi> bugun RMS'in bikac yazsini okudum, adam da tam politikaci olacak hitap yetenegi var
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ubuntu-chat
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2015-06-30-#lubuntu-devel
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[18:47] <ianorlin> hmm is something wrong with the desktop images for lubuntu today
[20:06] <phillw> ianorlin: I've not tried the DE ones.. I'm an alternate installer guy. If you have details, I'll go grab one.
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ubuntu-chat
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2015-06-30-#ubuntu+1
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[08:15] <lordievader> Good morning.
[12:58] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[17:01] <ryilefer> Guys..tried to update nvidia..running 15.10..now I cnat even login.. It says "the system is running in low graphics mode"
[17:07] <trism> ryilefer: ctrl+alt+f2 to a tty, login and check you have the linux headers for your kernel: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r); then check: dkms status; to see if the module is installed for your kernel
[17:11] <ryilefer> @trism: on it
[17:15] <ryilefer> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed ,0 to remove and 18 not upgraded
[17:17] <trism> ryilefer: what about the dkms status line for your kernel? does it say Installed?
[17:17] <ryilefer> trism: how do I check the dkms status??
[17:18] <trism> ryilefer: just type: dkms status;
[17:18] <ryilefer> Installed
[17:19] <ryilefer> Do in type the output?
[17:19] <ryilefer> I*
[17:21] <trism> ryilefer: if you have/can install pastebinit it would be interesting to see: dkms status | pastebinit; but if it really is installed you'll have to check dmesg to see if it tried to load the nvidia module and failed for some reason
[17:22] <ryilefer> trism: http://imgur.com/VHS3hLi
[17:24] <ryilefer> or http://paste.ubuntu.com/11800223/
[17:24] <trism> ryilefer: uname -r; was a command not your username, is the output of uname -r; 3.19.0-22-generic?
[17:24] <trism> ryilefer: the screenshot was fine
[17:25] <trism> ryilefer: the output looks fine, which nvidia card do you have?
[17:25] <ryilefer> 720M
[17:27] <ryilefer> And yes, Linux-headers-3.19.0-22-generic is already the newest version
[17:27] <ryilefer> That's the output.. After cornering (uname -r)
[17:27] <ryilefer> Correcting*
[17:28] <trism> ryilefer: do you see any nvidia lines in the output of: dmesg; ?
[17:29] <ryilefer> trism: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11800295/
[17:35] <trism> ryilefer: seems to be not loading because that driver version dropped support for your card, although i can't remember where the support list page is on the nvidia site
[17:35] <trism> ryilefer: not sure which nvidia versions are available in wily
[17:35] <ryilefer> :(
[17:35] <trism> ryilefer: seems kind of strange, I didn't think the 720m was that old
[17:36] <ryilefer> 3-4 years
[17:36] <ryilefer> Probably
[17:37] <ryilefer> Geforce 720M
[17:40] <ryilefer> trism: http://imgur.com/3QtTMSB
[17:43] <trism> ryilefer: actually, I think the problem is you are using too old a nvidia version
[17:44] <trism> ryilefer: you are on 304.125 but I see the 720m in the latest version
[17:44] <ryilefer> Ah...anything I can do?
[17:45] <ryilefer> trism: I followed some YouTube tutorial to update the driver...biggest mistake..
[17:46] <trism> ryilefer: try: sudo apt-get purge nvidia-304; then: sudo apt-get install nvidia-346;
[17:46] <ryilefer> trism: on it
[17:48] <trism> ryilefer: if: dkms status; says installed for nvidia-346 I would try restarting after that
[17:49] <ryilefer> trism: removed 304..installing 346..will restart the system once its done and let you know
[17:52] <ryilefer> trism: seems to be working fine...
[17:54] <ryilefer> trism: using nvidia binary driver-version 346.72 from nvidia-346(open source)
[17:59] <trism> ryilefer: excellent, yeah I think the problem was 304 just hadn't added support for 720m yet, it is pretty old
[18:00] <ryilefer> trism: ah..this should work fine right?..I'll try not to mess around with it too much
[18:10] <ryilefer> trism: anyway, thanks a lot for your help man.. You saved my ass..cheers!
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ubuntu-chat
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2015-06-30-#maas
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[09:04] <mup> Bug #1470013 opened: MAAS 1.8 - failed power off/status for majority of nodes <cpec> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1470013>
[10:50] <schiatto> hi guys!! I've a problem with the installation of MaaS via command line on a ubuntu 14.04lts, as reported its own official guide, the eroor is here reported (http://askubuntu.com/questions/641540/error-during-installation-via-command-line-of-maas-region-controller). anyone can help me?
[10:50] <gnuoy> I'm using juju with maas 1.8 and when I deploy an LXC container via juju dns is not working. Which looks alot like Bug #1382190 which was fixed in 1.7. Is there some special step to enable maas to manage the lxc dns entries (which I may not have done) or does this look like a regression?
[13:42] <kiko> schiatto, good morning
[13:43] <schiatto> hello kiko
[13:43] <kiko> gnuoy, do you have a static range defined?
[13:43] <kiko> schiatto, the question is why is the postgresql database not being installed and configured properly?
[13:43] <kiko> schiatto, is there something else blocking the port?
[13:43] <schiatto> kiko yes
[13:44] <kiko> do you have postgresql already running on that system?
[13:44] <schiatto> I saw its own official guide
[13:45] <kiko> schiatto, I would use 1.7 from the stable PPA above instead of 1.5 which is currently in trusty
[13:45] <schiatto> no, it's a new installation of maas
[13:45] <schiatto> I've used an ubuntu 14.04lts clear and added the repository and followed the guide
[13:45] <kiko> ah
[13:46] <kiko> okay, it is 1.7 then?
[13:46] <schiatto> I've obtained the same problem also using 1.5
[13:46] <kiko> schiatto, something is happening during the postgresql install -- could you look at the logs?
[13:46] <schiatto> now it's 1.7, also I saw that is ready 1.8
[13:47] <schiatto> I testing it on another infrastructure
[13:48] <schiatto> I don't know I've just run the command sudo apt-get install maas-region-controller the first time then sudo apt-get install maas and the situation was the same
[16:05] <amirali> hi
[16:06] <amirali> i want to install maas 1.8 on ubunto 14.04
[16:06] <amirali> is this the code
[16:06] <amirali> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:maas-maintainers/experimental
[16:07] <amirali> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:juju/stablesudo
[16:07] <amirali> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:juju/stable
[16:42] <amirali> hi kiko
[16:43] <kiko> hey amirali
[16:44] <kiko> that will get you maas 1.8 and whatever juju is in stable
[16:55] <amirali> does it differs what juju version should be with maas 1.8 ?
[16:56] <amirali> or with maas 1.8 should juju be experimental too ?
[17:07] <amirali> .......
[17:17] <catbus1> amirali: maas is not dependent on juju.
[17:18] <catbus1> you can use juju from stable with maas 1.8
[18:30] <catbus1> where on maas 1.8 web UI to change installer to debian installer?
[18:33] <wolverineav> hey, quick question - how do we change the installer being used from fastpath to debian?
[18:39] <wolverineav> my webui looks pretty different from the one in documentation: https://imgur.com/z1W53L4
[18:39] <wolverineav> as compared to : https://maas.ubuntu.com/docs/installing-ubuntu.html
[18:40] <roaksoax> wolverineav: there's a bug for that: https://bugs.launchpad.net/maas/+bug/1470202
[18:40] <roaksoax> wolverineav: and also, 1.8 does not officially support debian installer anymore
[18:43] <wolverineav> ah, ok. thanks @roaksoax
[18:43] <mup> Bug #1470202 opened: Documentation needs to be udpate for new WEbUI <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1470202>
[18:44] <wolverineav> I was making some changes in the 'post_scripts' section of preseed/generic
[18:45] <wolverineav> any suggestions as to where I should move that?
[18:46] <roaksoax> wolverineav: preseed/curtin_userdata
[18:47] <catbus1> roaksoax: do you happen to have any nic bonding examples for curtin?
[19:04] <roaksoax> catbus1: not at the moment, maybe someone for IS
[19:04] <catbus1> ok
[19:26] <kiko> roaksoax, ivoks does I believe (not in this channel)
[21:44] <wolverineav> so, I've updated the curtin_userdata with a couple of lines and an echo message to a file, just to verify that its executed (line 26 - 28): http://pastebin.com/i4FxXVwG but my new node doesn't reflect that.
[21:45] <wolverineav> also restarted maas services - maas-dhcpd, maas-regiond, maas-clusterd. ideally, after any change to curtin_userdata, it should just pick up that change when a new node is deployed, right?
[23:30] <catbus1> wolverineav: I think you take those new lines out of if/endif section. If it doesn't run, probably because it doesn't satisfy the if condition.
[23:31] <catbus1> and I'd add a -y for apt-get install ifenslave-6
[23:33] <wolverineav> oops! saw series of apt-get and added one in the end, not realizing that its in an IF condition :| thanks catbus1
[23:36] <catbus1> wolverineav: it should just pick up the changes without restarting any services.
[23:44] <mup> Bug #1470276 opened: add cisco snic to 3rd party driver <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1470276>
[23:45] <wolverineav> yep, just ran it on a new node without restarting services, it works :)
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2015-06-30-#ubuntu-unity
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[07:25] <davidcalle> Good morning o/
[08:54] <tsdgeos> cimi: can you review https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/unity8/expandable_not_expanded_by_default/+merge/262719 ?
[08:54] <tsdgeos> greyback: what do you think of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/1469963 ?
[09:05] <greyback> tsdgeos: you were right on the money. I've replied
[09:05] <tsdgeos> :)
[09:19] <tsdgeos> cimi: and this one? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/1461979
[09:30] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: what's your opinion on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/1468042 is it something we should do or is it something in the lower layers should do?
[09:31] <mzanetti> tsdgeos, I asked josh yesterday, he said he as a branch that would fix it... need to properly work through the reply still
[09:31] <tsdgeos> k
[11:43] <greyback> hmm, bluetooth keyboard issues, hoping reboot fixes it
[11:55] <cimi> pstolowski, mzanetti let me know if you like the json or have other preferences https://code.launchpad.net/~cimi/unity8/previewSocialComment/+merge/263339
[11:56] <mzanetti> cimi, I want yaml
[11:56] <mzanetti> ;P
[11:58] <davmor2> mzanetti: I picture you sing I want Yaml to this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMICD3aMZpw
[11:58] <mzanetti> davmor2, :(((
[11:58] <mzanetti> Unfortunately, this video is not available in your country because it could contain music from SME, for which we could not agree on conditions of use with GEMA.
[11:59] <davmor2> mzanetti: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1xv2e_bow-wow-wow-i-want-candy_music
[11:59] <mzanetti> haha
[12:00] <mzanetti> cimi, looks ok to me
[12:01] <cimi> mzanetti, don't know if we should have "social-comment" or just "comment"
[12:02] <mzanetti> cimi, good question... probably just comment
[12:02] <davmor2> mzanetti: the best of it is now you'll be thinking of that any time you see the term I want yaml :P You're welcome by the way :)
[12:03] <mzanetti> :D
[12:29] <ChrisTownsend> Is anybody looking at why Unity 8 on the desktop is broken, ie, the phone greeter is shown after logging in from lightdm?
[12:30] <seb128> ChrisTownsend, hey, bug #1469761
[12:31] <ChrisTownsend> seb128: Ack, thanks. I was too lazy to look at Launchpad yet;-)
[12:31] <seb128> :-)
[12:31] <seb128> ChrisTownsend, it doesn't make it "broken" though
[12:31] <seb128> you can swip from the edge
[12:31] <seb128> (not in a vm though)
[12:32] <ChrisTownsend> seb128: Ah, ok. Should probably add the "workaround" in the bug description. I don't use the phone, so I wouldn't know that.
[12:32] <seb128> ChrisTownsend, oh ok
[12:33] <ChrisTownsend> seb128: Hmm, can't seem to swipe from the edge to get rid of the greeter.
[12:33] <seb128> ChrisTownsend, can you display the launcher and click on the ubuntu logo?
[12:33] <seb128> it should make the greeter display the "enter passphrase"
[12:34] <seb128> then you can type your password
[12:34] <ChrisTownsend> seb128: Ok, did that and now it says "Enter passphrase" with no place to enter it.
[12:34] <seb128> just type
[12:34] <seb128> it should show the dots
[12:34] <seb128> it's just not obvious
[12:35] <ChrisTownsend> seb128: Ok, that works. I guess that is not technically broken, but it sure is fsck'd up.:)
[12:35] <ChrisTownsend> seb128: Thanks for your help.
[12:35] <seb128> ChrisTownsend, yw!
[12:36] <seb128> it is buggy, hopefully somebody works on the issue
[12:36] <seb128> mzanetti assigned it to Josh
[12:36] <seb128> unsure if he's around though, I didn't see him on IRC yesterday and he didn't comment on the bug
[12:36] <mzanetti> seb128, I wrote him a mail, he said he has a branch upcoming
[12:37] <ChrisTownsend> seb128: I've been getting quite a bit of bug mail in the unity8-lxc project about this. I've spent some trying to help those users and now at least I have a place to point them.
[12:37] <mzanetti> oh wait... taht was another one
[12:37] <seb128> mzanetti, ok, good ... do you know if he does IRC?
[12:37] <seb128> he should :-)
[12:37] <mzanetti> seb128, he is, but west coast time zone
[12:37] <mzanetti> seb128, shows up for our standup at 14:30 UTC usually
[12:37] <seb128> mzanetti, k, I looked for him yesterday at 6pm european time, unsure when he gets online
[12:38] <seb128> k
[12:38] <seb128> I'm going to try to catch him today
[12:38] <seb128> or can you point him to that bug in your standup?
[12:38] <mzanetti> I will
[12:38] <seb128> thanks
[13:02] <mzanetti> MacSlow, can you please try to find someone from the phonedations team to help with that GU stuff?
[13:03] <MacSlow> mzanetti, sure
[13:07] <seb128> ChrisTownsend, do you know what is supposed to change vt when you look with lightm to unity8?
[13:08] <seb128> is that lightdm/usc/unity/mir?
[13:08] <seb128> greyback, ^
[13:08] <ChrisTownsend> seb128: Hmm, I looked into that some time ago. I seem to remember is was lightdm, but I'm not 100% sure.
[13:09] <seb128> robert_ancell wrote a reply to my email stating "LightDM tells USC which session should be visible (basically replacing VT switching)."
[13:09] <seb128> "USC combines the frames from the session(s) as appropriate so the correct session is visible and getting input event. USC applies any transitions it thinks are appropriate."
[13:09] <seb128> does it mean it's usc?
[13:09] <seb128> kgunn, ^
[13:10] <ChrisTownsend> Hmm, it seems robert_ancell is saying usc is responsible for the VT switch, although those words aren't exactly clear to me. I tend to believe him over me:)
[13:23] <greyback> seb128: IMO USC should switch to the vt it desires. It has a --vt argument to specify that
[13:23] <seb128> greyback, the process has --vt 8
[13:23] <seb128> which is how I noticed is was started on vt8 and tried to ctrl-alf-f8
[13:24] <seb128> which makes the unity8 session start
[13:24] <seb128> so it does start on vt8
[13:24] <seb128> but nothing move the active vt there
[13:24] <seb128> what should be the something doing that?
[13:24] <greyback> seb128: hmm, I thought mir/usc did that too
[13:25] <seb128> well, maybe it's failing
[13:57] <mzanetti> cimi, when you have some minutes: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/1468403
[14:00] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: i "fixed" this before, it's basically Text{} in QML being broken
[14:00] <tsdgeos> and i did somehow workaround it in the past
[14:00] <tsdgeos> if this is still happening in Arale and not in the Bq
[14:00] <tsdgeos> we will need to backport the Qt fix and that's it
[14:01] <tsdgeos> cimi: ↑↑
[14:01] <mzanetti> ah ok
[14:01] <mzanetti> tsdgeos, well, you guys fight for it :)
[14:01] <tsdgeos> i can't fix it
[14:01] <tsdgeos> if noone confirms it's arale only first
[14:01] <tsdgeos> asked it twice already
[14:01] <tsdgeos> and people keep ignoring me on the bugs
[14:02] <tsdgeos> FWIW this is the Qt fix https://codereview.qt-project.org/#/c/111080/
[14:03] <mzanetti> tsdgeos, I just tried on arale... can't see this behavior
[14:03] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: it's very dependant on the app, tried exactly the same app form the bug?
[14:03] <tsdgeos> form -> from
[14:04] <mzanetti> tsdgeos, yes, but my phone is set to german atm. could that make a difference?
[14:04] <tsdgeos> yep
[14:04] <tsdgeos> different width of translations
[14:04] <mzanetti> ok. will reflash and report back
[14:05] <mzanetti> after I'm done frying my mako
[14:05] <mzanetti> I think it is too hot today to compile on mako
[14:11] <cimi> tsdgeos, mzanetti ack
[14:41] <mzanetti> josharenson, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/1469761
[14:54] <josharenson> mzanetti: I think dandrader already fixed that bug, in https://code.launchpad.net/~dandrader/unity8/fixOrientedShellTests
[14:55] <mzanetti> josharenson, ah, perfect
[14:55] <josharenson> I'll link them
[14:55] <mzanetti> josharenson, yeah, wanted to ask you that yesterday but didn't manage to catch you in the end
[14:56] <josharenson> mzanetti: spent most of the day off irc dealing w/ an unnecessarily painful ubuntu reinstall
[14:56] <mzanetti> heh, I know the feeling. hapened to me 2 months ago
[15:02] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: what did you mean with "* The progress bar is slightly off from the background" in the audio card review?
[15:02] <tsdgeos> it's the same progress bar we had in the preview re-purposed for the cards too
[15:03] <mzanetti> tsdgeos, there were some margins of units.dp(2) in the old code... and on my first test it was a bit off. but seems I made a mistake.
[15:04] <mzanetti> tsdgeos, everything I commented on the original branch should be fixed now
[15:04] <tsdgeos> okidoki, could you add a new comment for clarity?
[15:04] <tsdgeos> stupid me
[15:04] <tsdgeos> i'm looking at the wrong MR
[15:06] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: so http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity8/audioCardSupport/revision/1777 should work when/if we get the playlist support and all magically fits into place
[15:06] <tsdgeos> i pinged Jim to talk about it but he didn't come back to me yet
[15:08] <mzanetti> thanks tsdgeos
[15:15] <tsdgeos> on the commenting/rating side, is there something for me to do? reviews?
[15:15] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: ↑
[15:15] <tsdgeos> cimi: ↑
[15:15] <mzanetti> tsdgeos, yes please
[15:16] <mzanetti> tsdgeos, https://code.launchpad.net/~cimi/unity8/previewSocialComment/+merge/263339
[15:16] <mzanetti> tsdgeos, and its prereq
[15:17] <tsdgeos> oki
[16:37] <dandrader> greyback, do you know where log generated by mir, from unity8, is stored?
[16:38] <greyback> dandrader: it's not logging anything by default really. You need to turn on logging with some env vars
[16:38] <greyback> then it'll end up in the unity8.log as usual
[16:39] <dandrader> greyback, yeah. I added "initctl set-env --global MIR_SERVER_INPUT_REPORT=log" to unity8.log and executed in the terminal
[16:39] <dandrader> greyback, s/unity8.log/unity8.conf
[16:40] <greyback> and it worked?
[16:41] <dandrader> greyback, no
[16:41] <greyback> dandrader: I only see reference to MIR_SERVER_INPUT_REPORT=lttng in mir
[16:41] <dandrader> greyback, still unsure whether I was really able to change the env were untiy8 is run by upstart
[16:41] <dandrader> greyback, http://unity.ubuntu.com/mir/component_reports.html
[16:41] <greyback> dandrader: you are. What you did should work
[16:41] <greyback> dandrader: ah that doc is ancient
[16:42] <dandrader> greyback, that's what alan keeps pointing me at
[16:42] <greyback> "start unity8 ENV=var" will run unity8 with ENV=var set
[16:42] <greyback> dandrader: I've grepped the sources, only mention of INPUT_REPORT is in a doc file
[16:43] <dandrader> it's maddening that I can't grep for env var names because it's all done functions and whatnot
[16:43] <dandrader> done through
[16:43] <greyback> MIR_CLIENT_INPUT_RECEIVER_REPORT maybe?
[16:44] <dandrader> greyback, how did you find that env var name?
[16:44] <greyback> dandrader: grep getenv
[16:44] <dandrader> greyback, ?
[16:45] <greyback> dandrader: I ran "grep getenv" on the mir sources and looked for something input related
[16:48] <greyback> dandrader: you might be able to run unity8 with the "--input_report_opt=log" switch
[16:48] <greyback> qt may choke on that tho
[16:49] <dandrader> greyback, isn't it just "--input_report=log"
[16:50] <greyback> dandrader: yes sorry, bad copy/paste
[16:50] <dandrader> at least that's what "unity-system-compositor --help" shows
[16:53] <greyback> Unknown option 'input_report'.
[16:53] <greyback> darn
[16:53] <dandrader> greyback, it did work
[16:53] <greyback> huh, not for me
[16:54] <greyback> start unity8 ARGS="--input_report=log"
[16:54] <dandrader> greyback, MIR_SERVER_INPUT_REPORT=log and MIR_SERVER_LEGACY_INPUT_REPORT=log
[16:54] <greyback> hmm, so those do work
[16:54] <greyback> sorry
[16:54] <dandrader> greyback, I went the initctl set-env way
[17:20] <josharenson> Launchpad having issues?
[18:29] <dandrader> josharenson, yeah, seems like it's down :(
[18:29] <dandrader> just got a "Uh oh!" page
[18:31] <josharenson> dandrader: yeah and I'm not able to push branches :-/
[20:04] <om26er> I cannot enable developer mode on wily, help ?
[20:04] <om26er> wrong channel.
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ubuntu-chat
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2015-06-30-#ubuntustudio
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[01:58] <holstein> LikeVinyl: 10.04 is EOL
[01:58] <holstein> !10.04
[01:58] <holstein> you'll want 14.04 for LTS, or 15.04 for current
[03:43] <OvenWerks> holstein: 10.04 still had gcdmaster I think ;)
[03:43] <holstein> OvenWerks: :)
[04:31] <Guest81822> Only stopped in to say Studio edition is fantastic. Love it.
[04:32] <Guest81822> Any guitarist here? I'd love to hear how you're using Ubuntu Studio ?!
[05:47] <TheC4mel> Within (any kind of DAW, particularly Ardour), is there a way to channel certain instruments to their own tracks as you record them, instead of them all being merged into one track as you record?
[07:20] <pitagora3> ok
[15:00] <studio-user023> What on earth is wrong with U.S. installer?
[15:01] <studio-user023> Why it falls when setting up "Grub2"?
[15:01] <holstein> studio-user023: what problems are you having?
[15:01] <holstein> "it" sets up grub here, and for everyone during QA tests..
[15:01] <holstein> what is your particular hardware case? i have had grub fail on modern uefi configurations..
[15:03] <studio-user023> I have UEFI too... May it cause the crashes?
[15:04] <holstein> studio-user023: i dont think you are experiencing a "crash".. seems you are experiencing just what is advertised, which, can be a "protected" hardware environment, where you are not allowed to edit the boot loader, etc
[15:04] <holstein> !uefi
[15:05] <holstein> on my current laptop, that was problematic, i just read around, and decided how to best deal with the hardware case.. then, i decided to replace the hard drive, and i put the bios in legacy mode, and it worked as expected
[15:10] <studio-user023> Well, thanks for information. I hope it could help.
[15:11] <holstein> studio-user023: it could help?
[18:17] <guest-Zl2m1e> hi friends i am trying to download virtual box im getting error that i dont have enough priviledge
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:39.046433
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2015-06-30-#ubuntu-us-pa
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[09:21] <rmg51> Morning
[12:10] <teddy-dbear> Morning peoples, critters and everything else
[14:38] <ChinnoDog> morning
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:39.047756
| 2015-06-30T00:00:00 |
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"rmg51",
"teddy-dbear"
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"channel": "#ubuntu-us-pa"
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2015-06-30-#ubuntu-news
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[01:35] <pleia2> ok, release time
[01:43] <pleia2> Welcome to the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter, Issue 423 for the week June 22 - 28, 2015 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue423
[01:54] <pleia2> hm, we should add our social media things to the newsletter template
[02:32] <pleia2> blogged again, so hopefully I can dig up some new contributors
[02:43] * ahoneybun has reweeted
[02:45] <pleia2> thank you!
[02:51] <ahoneybun> yep
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:39.048829
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2015-06-30-#ubuntu-gr
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[11:42] <Euaki> Νέα από ubuntusecurity: USN-2652-1: Oxide vulnerabilities <http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2652-1/>
[15:35] <Euaki> Νέα από ubuntugr: Ubuntu Hour στο Θησείο <http://www.ubuntu-gr.org/story/30-06-15/ubuntu-hour-%CF%83%CF%84%CE%BF-%CE%B8%CE%B7%CF%83%CE%B5%CE%AF%CE%BF>
[19:00] <pc_magas> Καλησπέρες
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:39.052000
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2015-06-30-#ubuntu-community-team
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[07:08] <dholbach> good morning
[07:11] <popey> yo
[07:24] <davidcalle> Good morning o/
[07:26] <Tm_T> moin
[07:44] <czajkowski> ello
[12:59] <davidcalle> dholbach, what's the best way to try the UI side of your data-store branch?
[13:05] <dholbach> davidcalle, it's not quite there yet, but you can add a Gadget Snap List plugin just like you add a Raw HTML plugin
[13:06] <dholbach> and run ./manage.py update-gadget-snaps to get the entries into the database
[13:06] <dholbach> with ./manage.py dbshell you can confirm if they're there
[13:06] <davidcalle> dholbach, thanks, trying it in a moment!
[13:06] <dholbach> (select * from store_data_gadgetsnap;)
[13:07] <dholbach> I'm still stuck somewhere trying to get all the data listed in the plugin
[13:07] <dholbach> and display it properly
[13:07] <dholbach> I was looking at https://django-cms.readthedocs.org/en/latest/how_to/custom_plugins.html
[13:15] <davidcalle> dholbach, I arrived to the point when adding the module, the modal window opens and the list is empty. I guess that's where you are stuck
[13:25] <dholbach> yes
[13:25] <dholbach> :)
[13:25] <dholbach> the render() function in cms_plugins.py probably is the wrong place to define everything
[13:26] <dholbach> I will need to see how this is done in other custom plugins
[13:26] <dholbach> but we should be pretty close already
[14:06] <dholbach> popey, davidcalle, balloons, mhall119, dpm: who does the Q&A later on?
[14:07] <dpm> dholbach, I wasn't in the last two, so I'm up for it, who else wants to join?
[14:12] <dholbach> I did last week with Mike
[14:17] <dpm> balloons, popey? ^
[14:27] <balloons> today isn't the best for me, but I'm in if popey isn't
[14:27] <popey> sure
[14:29] <dpm> ok, thanks popey
[14:29] * dpm starts the announcements
[14:33] <dpm> popey, can you log into ubuntuonair.com?
[14:33] <popey> i can
[14:33] <dpm> ok, I'll pass you the link to the hangout, then
[14:35] <popey> kk
[15:02] <dholbach> dpm, popey, balloons, mhall119, davidcalle: I'll start inviting a couple of folks for the next Q&A if that's all right - I'll add them to the trello board
[15:02] <popey> cool
[15:04] <mhall119> dholbach: are we going to invite jono? :)
[15:04] <dholbach> haha
[15:04] <mhall119> we could have a special 30-minute segment called "Tell Jono Bacon why rebasing on Android is the worst idea ever"
[15:04] <dholbach> just to give him an opportunity to tell the world that he replaced all of his Ubuntu with Macs
[15:05] <czajkowski> lol
[15:10] <balloons> LOL
[15:11] <czajkowski> popey: so do you wnt to tell that guy I dont keep a list of user groups just conferences :)
[15:11] <popey> i think confs is what he wants
[15:11] <popey> really
[15:12] <czajkowski> ah ok
[15:12] <czajkowski> can you remind me in the morning
[15:12] <czajkowski> I have a few hrs left to submit Q2 reviews on activies before Q3 starts tomorrow
[16:26] <dholbach> all rightie my friends
[16:26] <dholbach> I call it a day - see you all tomorrow!
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:39.067705
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2015-06-30-#ubuntu-hr
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[06:36] <Mmike> Kaj ste rekli?
[06:37] <Mmike> Dolar nije gore iso?
[06:37] <Mmike> meh :(
[06:38] <Mmike> xzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzxzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzgzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx .0
[06:39] <Mmike> *--
[06:41] <Mmike> Dete, dete.
[06:46] <dodobas> Mmike: ah cute... trebas ovo staviti u spomenar ili kako se to ono zove ... "ostvaren prvi kontakt s vanjskim svijetom preko IRC protokola"
[06:47] <dodobas> :)
[06:47] <Mmike> mah
[06:47] <Mmike> nije prvi, sto je najbolje
[06:47] <Mmike> na pol minute me nije bilo, malisa UPALIO tastaturu, i onda ROKAJ ;D
[06:47] <Mmike> dodobas, si rjesio altere?
[06:48] <dodobas> Mmike: nisam jos probao... pitao... ako ce mi trebati... alternativa je dignuti FK ... ali idem probati ovako
[06:48] <Mmike> da
[06:48] <Mmike> mlje-mlja je to uvijek
[06:49] <Mmike> ja sam uvijek bio skloniji radjenju 'sifrarnik' tablice
[06:49] <Mmike> al' za stvari kojie su app-fixed, i rijetko se mijenjaju, enum je good enough
[06:49] <Mmike> nesto je brzi i nesh manje mjesta zauzima
[06:49] <Mmike> (ak ti treba jos argumenata za enume)
[06:50] <dodobas> ovako se bar nitko nece sjetiti ... dodavati nesto u tu 'tablicu' kroz apliaciju
[06:50] <Mmike> da
[06:51] <Mmike> tu bi recimo isli statusi dokumenata, npr 'new', 'assigned', 'canceled', 'bombarded'
[06:56] <ivoks> Mmike: ici ce
[06:57] <Mmike> ivoks, ide, ide :)
[06:58] <Mmike> ja sam, recimo, popusio 400 kuna jer sam jucer mjenjao, a ne danas. Nije puno, al' to su 2 i pol fina ramsteka!
[06:59] <ivoks> ja sam danas mijenjao
[06:59] <ivoks> ali... nije to jos ziher
[06:59] <jelly> ici ce jos dole :-)
[06:59] <ivoks> za sad gubim par somova
[06:59] <ivoks> ali imam vjeru u grcke komuniste
[06:59] <ivoks> nepokolebljivi su u unistavanju vlastite drzave
[07:00] <jelly> vjeru da ce izaci iz eurozone, ili vjeru da ce i dalje povlaciti komisiju za nos?
[07:00] <ivoks> jedno ide s drugim
[07:00] <ivoks> komisija ce kad tad reci ma odjebite vise
[07:00] <ivoks> euro ce izgubiti jedno 15-20% vrijednosti
[07:00] <ivoks> i eurozona ce procvjetati
[07:01] <ivoks> a ja cu zaraditi na short term exchange :)
[07:01] <ivoks> ili necu... dobro je imati stash sa strane s kojim se mozes zaigrati tu i tamo
[07:02] <ivoks> http://www.fxstreet.com/rates-charts/forex-charts/?id=eur/usd
[07:02] <ivoks> gledam i navijam
[07:04] <ivoks> ha
[07:04] <ivoks> u 18:00 jucer za jedan euro je trebalo 1,09 dolara
[07:04] <ivoks> tocnije, u 18:28
[07:06] <ivoks> ako je ovaj char tocan
[07:06] <ivoks> euro je na najnizoj razini prema dolaru od 2002.
[07:07] <Mmike> brijem da nije
[07:07] <Mmike> dolar je bio preko 7 kuna
[07:07] <Mmike> a euro/kuna se minimalno mijenja
[07:07] <ivoks> pa cekaj
[07:07] <ivoks> vidjeti ces tecaj sutra
[07:07] <ivoks> tecajevi banaka su fiksni tokom dana
[07:09] <ivoks> http://www.businessinsider.com/us-futures-open-sunday-june-28-2015-6
[07:09] <ivoks> ni amerima nije bajno
[07:11] <BotaniCar> jutro, junacine
[07:20] <Mmike> umro grad.hr :/
[07:20] <Mmike> ivoks, da, znam, al' sam trebao kune jucer :)
[07:20] <ivoks> da, nestalo struje
[07:20] <ivoks> i nece biti neko vrijeme
[07:20] <Mmike> mater :( i sad glupi apt-cacher-ng nezna otic na de.archives.ubuntu.com
[07:23] <Mmike> beh, nit de. mirror ne radi kak spada :)
[07:25] <vileni> sta nebi tako vazan server trebao imati agregat :)
[07:26] <BotaniCar> Agregati su onaj alternativni izvor napajanja koji obicno zakaze kad primarnog nema ?
[07:27] <vileni> to je onaj izvor napajanja iz kojeg izvade naftu za traktor pa nema kad nestane struja
[07:37] <Mmike> vileni, dzaba, kad mreza ne radi :)
[07:55] <ivoks> ima agregat
[07:55] <ivoks> tj ups
[07:55] <ivoks> i mreza ima ups
[07:55] <ivoks> ali badava ti sve to kad HEP iskljuci mrezu cijelom kvartu
[07:55] <ivoks> na par sati
[08:04] <vileni> nama je ups drzao 15min mrezu i servere, sto obicno nije bilo dosta da upale agregat
[08:04] <ivoks> pita mene zena u rba da zasto otkazujem racun kod njih
[08:04] <ivoks> zato kaj ne znam koje mi stanje kreditne kartice, osim ako ih ne nazovem
[08:04] <ivoks> zato kaj je ebanking smijesan
[08:04] <vileni> cak i pbz zvuci bolje :)
[08:05] <ivoks> zato kaj su mi u pon dali karticu, a u utorak mi ju je bankomat progutao s izjavom da je ukradena
[08:05] <dodobas> ivoks: duzi neki popis, cini se :)
[08:06] <ivoks> pa rekao sam joj, odakle da pocnem
[08:17] <ivoks> No, zato to mogu učiniti državljani Falklanda (Maldivi) iako ta država ne postoji, a otok je u sastavu Velike Britanije.
[08:17] <ivoks> kad novinar hoce posrat jadroliniju, pa posere sebe
[08:19] <Mmike> maldivi?
[08:19] <Mmike> falklandi?
[08:19] <Mmike> kaj?
[08:19] <ivoks> a konj
[08:26] <BotaniCar> bas me zanima s kim ce se MS skompati da mu bude provider reklama u win 10 ( ne vidim drugi nacin da izmuzu tu kravu, ako ce dijeliti sam OS shapkom i kapkom )
[08:27] <ivoks> ako apple moze...
[08:27] <ivoks> i canonical
[08:28] <BotaniCar> Naravno da mogu,a i nemaju puno alternativa ( siguran sam da bi svi radije neki mjesecni fee, ali tko ce to naplatit' )
[08:44] <jelly> ivoks: pa DSLAM-ovi imaju svoje UPS-ove, ak je ispad dulji na lokaciju ide agregat
[08:44] <ivoks> al ovo je faks
[08:45] <ivoks> budimo ozbiljni
[08:45] <jelly> ah
[08:45] <jelly> hoces reci "nesposobni za alocirat $$$ za agregat koji to moze drzat"
[08:45] <ivoks> malo vise $$$
[08:46] <ivoks> jer onda moraju drugacije razvuci i napajanje
[08:46] <ivoks> itd
[08:46] <ivoks> a zasto?
[08:46] <jelly> ak ti ne treba, ne treba ti
[08:46] <ivoks> sto dobiju s time sto ce par switcheva i servera biti up, ako ostatak faksa nece?
[08:55] <ivoks> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3V8fitrHeE
[08:55] <datase> YouTube: Ako imate pametnijeg posla od odlaska u banku - 0:00:42 - 123361 views - 25 likes / 2 dislikes
[09:17] * Mmike jako ne voli vjetar u prsa
[09:17] <Mmike> al' ono, jako
[09:17] <Mmike> cim je prestalo puhat poceo sam pedalatarirat 27 km/h
[09:42] <CrazyLemon> ali zato jako volis vjetar u leđa? :)
[09:47] <Mmike> uh, brate mili
[09:47] <Mmike> 40 km/h sam tak :)
[10:23] <BotaniCar> Ja toliko ne mogu ni s autom na nizbrdici ! :)
[10:38] <Mmike> BotaniCar: otpustis rucnu, ubacis u 4tu, stisnes gas do poda
[10:38] <Mmike> e, da
[10:38] <Mmike> upalis auto prije
[10:38] <Mmike> najdraze mi kad odem na stroj pa vidim modifikacije lokalnog admina
[10:39] <Mmike> byobu, bojice u shellu, prompt u dve linije
[10:43] <dodobas> e Mmike pg_dump... gdje radi kompresiju na serveru ili lokalno ?
[10:49] <Mmike> na serveru
[10:49] <Mmike> eeeeee
[10:49] <Mmike> dobro pitanje
[10:49] <Mmike> ne
[10:49] <Mmike> tamo di se vrti pg_dump
[10:49] <Mmike> ak ga vrtis na serveru onda - na serveru :D
[10:49] <Mmike> btw, dodobas
[10:50] <Mmike> ja sam odustao od -Fc, iako je brzi za restore
[10:50] <Mmike> pg_dump plain i onda to potjeram kroz lrzip
[10:50] <Mmike> 18 GB dump se skompresira u 200 megi
[10:56] <vileni> i tako, hoces kliknuti na mail adresu na web stranici, da bi skuzio da je ista zapravo gif
[11:01] <Mmike> ja popizdim kad dobijem ponudu od nekih likova
[11:01] <Mmike> i onda mi broj racuna ili poziv na broj nije copy-pasteabilan
[11:01] <jelly> lijevo desni zip je fora za takve visoko repetitivne stvari
[11:01] <Mmike> lijevodesni zip?
[11:01] <jelly> lrzip !
[11:02] <jelly> ak to ne znaci lijevo desni, onda su propustili priliku
[11:02] <Mmike> :D
[11:02] <Mmike> da, fora je
[11:02] <Mmike> jedino mu treba memorije (meni doma zauzme svih 30 gigi rama), i dobro dodje puno jezgri :D
[11:02] <jelly> samo sto ga niko ne koristi
[11:02] <Mmike> ja ga koristim, kak ne
[11:02] <Mmike> mjesecni dump radim s time
[11:02] <jelly> ma ti koristis i btrfs :-)
[11:02] <Mmike> izmedju toga cuvam snapshote datadira
[11:02] <Mmike> a izmedju toga samo WALove
[11:03] <Mmike> jelly: ne vise, odustao sam :)
[11:03] <Mmike> LVM FTW :)
[11:03] <jelly> doslo u glavu?
[11:03] <Mmike> pa za moj usecase je to super (glup sam sto se nisam prije toga sjetio)
[11:03] <Mmike> al' metat LVM na laptop fakat nema smisla :)
[11:04] <Mmike> prvo sam krenuo sa KVMom, ne koristim raw imageove nego korsitim lvm logicke voljume per virtualka
[11:04] <Mmike> em je brzo, em je lijepo
[11:04] <Mmike> e, a onda sam skuzio da LXC podrzava LVM, pa uz malo pimplanja sad i to imam
[11:04] <Mmike> superica
[11:04] <Mmike> puno bolje od btrfsa, puno bolje od overlayfsa nad ext4
[11:16] <vileni> sta je taj overlayfs?
[11:17] <dodobas> Mmike: ah Mmike ... Mmike , eh Mmike
[11:39] <jelly> vileni: jos jedan unionfs, ali ovaj je nekak upao u mainline kernel (sto znaci da ce biti kako-tako odrzavan)
[11:54] <vileni> jelly: sta nije to onaj koji je exploitan nedavno
[11:55] <vileni> pa dobijem root po zelji
[12:00] * jelly ne broji local root exploite, svaki mjesec ima bar 1-2 komada
[12:00] <jelly> tak da moze bit, pojma nemam
[12:02] <obruT> i tak... jeste spremni za sekundu viska ? :P
[12:11] <jelly> ja jesam, al ne znam dal su moji orakli, kerneli i dovecoti spremni...
[12:32] <jelly> tzdate i ntpji jesu
[12:59] <BotaniCar> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/06/30/worlds_best_vpns_fall_flat_in_security_tests/ # VPN smrkaljfen
[13:14] <ivoks> 13:04 < Mmike> e, a onda sam skuzio da LXC podrzava LVM, pa uz malo pimplanja sad i to imam
[13:14] <ivoks> Mmike: LVM?!
[13:14] <ivoks> muahahahahahahaha
[13:16] <ivoks> gle ovaj mutavi euro
[13:16] <ivoks> sad kao bounca natrag
[13:19] <jelly> ne kuzim zasto ovi iz eu komisije dopustaju da ih grk vuce za nos
[13:19] <ivoks> a zato
[13:19] <ivoks> kaj im pase sigurnost
[13:19] <ivoks> nije im do zajebancije i kocke
[13:19] <jelly> pase im musti novce iz clanica
[13:19] <ivoks> a europi bi bilo bolje da nema grcke
[13:20] <jelly> jer ak grcka padne u devalvaciju i inflaciju, automatski je manji uvoz iz EU
[13:20] <jelly> i automatski ce poceti nuzno vise sami proizvoditi
[13:20] <ivoks> Stoga, kaže, "zamjenskih proizvoda" na Plitvicama više neće biti. Naime, gosta koji se potužio na hamburger unutar dvije šnite kruha konobar je upozorio da više nemaju peciva. No gost je, kažu, inzistirao da mu onda hamburger serviraju u kruhu i konobar je to i učinio.
[13:21] <ivoks> ako grcka ode van, eu gubi oko 400 milijardi eura
[13:21] <ivoks> sto znaci da ce se novac morati izmisliti nekom jebenom proizvodnjom
[13:21] <ivoks> ili devalvacijom
[13:21] <ivoks> a ako se devalvira euro, ja cu zaradit, ali ce i europa postati jeftinija
[13:22] <ivoks> i onda ce englezi zacepiti gubicu (jer oni su funtu neprimjetno devalvirali za 20% u zadnjih 7 godina)
[13:23] <ivoks> od 2007. do 2009., u dvije godine
[13:23] <ivoks> i od onda drze to
[13:23] <ivoks> do 2015, kada se euro poceo samourusavati
[13:23] <ivoks> neka
[13:23] <ivoks> bolje za EUzonu za euro bude slabiji
[13:23] <ivoks> losije za nas
[13:27] <BotaniCar> " europi bi bilo bolje da nema grcke" << ovo
[13:36] <jelly> http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-33325031 Data roaming charges to end in EU within two years
[13:41] <nicols> jutro!
[13:42] <nicols> meže neko preporučit neki smartcard reader koji provjereno radi na linuxu sa ovim novim elektronskim osobnim iskaznicama?
[13:43] <Mmike> ivoks: lvm, yup
[14:00] <Mmike> onaj tko je osmislio ufw treba slusat jelenu rozgu bar 4 sata dnevno slijedecih 8 mjeseci
[14:07] <jelly> Mmike: moze, ak mi das svoju playlistu
[14:13] <Mmike> eh
[14:13] <Mmike> meni ti to guglo sve radi
[14:13] <Mmike> tj, jubotubo
[14:19] <jelly> eto rjesenja
[14:19] <jelly> https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/greek-bailout-fund#/story
[14:23] <jelly> aaand /.ted
[14:48] <vileni> o nicols
[14:52] <Mmike> vileni: cemo vecears opet? :D
[14:52] <Mmike> vileni: ti si jos uvijek na misu?
[14:53] <vileni> Mmike: da
[14:53] <vileni> nema jeftinih volana
[14:55] <Mmike> ima na njuskalu
[14:55] <Mmike> G25/G27 za 1500 kuna
[14:56] <Mmike> GT za 800
[14:56] <vileni> nemamo bas istu definiciju jeftinog
[14:58] <Mmike> :)
[14:58] <Mmike> jbg
[14:58] <Mmike> inace G25 fakat drzi cijenu
[14:58] <Mmike> pred 2 godine je kostao 2k kuna
[14:58] <Mmike> ne znam dal' je bolji G25 ili G27, revieovi su razliciti
[14:58] <Mmike> eto, sad mi je opet CPU usko grlo :(
[14:59] <Mmike> 4 SSDa u RAID0 polju fakat rade brzo :)
[14:59] <jelly> n'bava kua
[15:02] <vileni> Mmike: pa bolje cpu nego diskovi? :)
[15:02] <vileni> evo za avio simulacije http://www.njuskalo.hr/igrace-konzole/saitek-pro-flight-bip-panel-oglas-15068540
[15:08] <ivoks> https://twitter.com/inglesi/status/615891251938746369/photo/1
[15:08] <ivoks> pa ovaj word ne zna koristiti
[15:11] <Mmike> vileni: ovo: http://www.njuskalo.hr/igrace-konzole/fanatec-csr-volan-clubsport-pedale-oglas-15203508
[15:12] <vileni> Mmike: i dalje ces biti sporiji
[15:12] <vileni> :D
[15:13] <Mmike> K-HM
[15:13] <vileni> trojica su u 1:34 usla
[15:13] <Vlado9A3CY> žur... bon žur
[15:13] <Mmike> da, ne vidim kak bi to mogo doc
[15:13] <Mmike> vileni: a cim oni voze?
[15:13] <vileni> svi su bili na misu jucer
[16:24] <Mmike> vileni: tak treba, pravi katolici. Na misu se mora ic!
[16:24] <Mmike> melita: sunce!
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[04:33] <mypapit> testttt
[16:17] <mypapit> hmmmmmmmmm
[16:40] <najmi> woh
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[03:28] <tintedwindows> help
[03:30] <OerHeks> LoLz how can we help to discuss?
[03:31] * daftykins thinks someone found the wrong door
[03:34] <OerHeks> discussing is not that easy
[03:35] <OerHeks> all the mistakes i have done twice
[03:37] <daftykins> :D
[03:55] <tintedwindows> no i accidently forgot the /
[03:55] <tintedwindows> i wanted to figure out the commands to sign in
[03:56] <tintedwindows> ant-man
[08:16] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:35] <TJ-> Morning ... feels like afternoon to me!
[12:58] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[14:45] <lotuspsychje> good afternoon to all
[14:46] <OerHeks> Hi lotus :-)
[14:46] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: hello mate,
[14:47] <lotuspsychje> 30+ degrees here
[14:47] <OerHeks> Just a nice 26'C here, friday 37.. but not on the coast where i am living.
[14:48] <OerHeks> long long row of cars toward the beach
[14:49] <OerHeks> and those silly tourists follow the signs, not the maps to find the fastest road :-D
[14:49] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: on wich coast do you live?
[14:49] <OerHeks> after 19:00 the row switches to return-home
[14:49] <OerHeks> Haarlem, 3 km from zandvoort
[14:49] <lotuspsychje> we just cam back from sluis here
[14:50] <lordievader> Hey lotuspsychje
[14:50] <OerHeks> tomorrow it get worse, Drabber feels the sun on the pavement, so i have to choose carefully my path in the shadows
[14:50] <lotuspsychje> lordievader: hello mate
[14:50] <OerHeks> hi lordievader :-)
[14:51] <lotuspsychje> 34+ is too much for us
[14:51] <lordievader> Hey OerHeks
[14:51] <lordievader> How are the two of you doing?
[14:51] <lotuspsychje> great and sunny
[14:51] <OerHeks> great, 3 dutchies talking english in a channel :-D
[14:51] <lotuspsychje> lol
[14:51] <lordievader> The way it should be :P
[14:52] <OerHeks> It is true, my english gets better every week.
[14:53] <lordievader> :)
[14:53] <lotuspsychje> supporting ubuntu is good for everything :p
[14:53] <lordievader> Does anyone of you have experience with festival and hts voices?
[14:53] <lotuspsychje> whats hts?
[14:53] <OerHeks> A little, tried it a few years back.
[14:54] <lordievader> I got pocketsphinx working but now I want my pc to talk back to me.
[14:54] <lordievader> lotuspsychje: An speech engine.
[14:54] <lotuspsychje> like dragon naturaly speaking?
[14:54] <lordievader> Err, I guess.
[14:55] <lotuspsychje> lordievader: there is an ubuntu distro specialized for blind users, maybe some usefull packages on there?
[14:56] <lordievader> Problem is Ubuntu is usually behind with their packages.
[14:57] <lotuspsychje> there has been an article about that
[14:58] <lordievader> This is the error I'm getting: Error: HTS_Model_load_pdf: Failed to load header of pdfs.
[14:58] <lotuspsychje> http://news.softpedia.com/news/will-i-have-the-latest-software-versions-in-ubuntu-with-snappy-485490.shtml
[14:59] <lordievader> Ah: "References to this error on the hts-users list suggest it's because the HTS API changed and that, where the old festival accepted 2.1 voices, the new version only accepts 2.1.1 voices."
[14:59] <lordievader> lotuspsychje: Snappy is still futurework, right?
[14:59] <lotuspsychje> yeah, but the plan is to replace apt-get
[15:00] <lotuspsychje> no more .debs oO
[15:00] <lotuspsychje> !info festival
[15:01] <lordievader> I have 2.1 and 2.4.
[15:03] <lotuspsychje> lordievader: there's a bug about it here for debian: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=589614
[15:04] <lordievader> Yeah, see the comment above ;)
[15:04] <lotuspsychje> lol, is that normal the bot shows debian bugs also?
[15:05] <lordievader> It can also show kde bugs ;)
[15:07] <lotuspsychje> can this help lordievader http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=751169&page=12
[15:08] <lordievader> lotuspsychje: I found flite, which is quite okay.
[15:08] <lordievader> But thanks anyways.
[15:08] <lotuspsychje> ok :p
[15:08] <Johnny_Linux> hehe
[15:08] <Johnny_Linux> woohoo
[15:09] <lotuspsychje> hi mate
[15:09] <Johnny_Linux> whats shakin
[15:09] <lotuspsychje> oh its hot outside here
[15:09] <lotuspsychje> 30+ degrees
[15:09] <lotuspsychje> and the whole week will be summer temps
[15:09] <Johnny_Linux> same here, working on the house, remodeling, so, im in&out
[15:09] <lotuspsychje> Johnny_Linux: peeking on irc while your working eh...
[15:10] <lotuspsychje> thats the best! :p
[15:10] <Johnny_Linux> my wife is in the bathroom
[15:10] <lotuspsychje> ok put your cam on :p
[15:10] <Johnny_Linux> woohoo
[15:10] <lotuspsychje> :p
[15:10] <Johnny_Linux> ok, im being paged, bbl
[15:10] <lotuspsychje> cheers
[15:21] <lordievader> Whee, I can ask the program for the time and it will speak it :D
[15:22] <lordievader> Pretty nifty :)
[15:22] <OerHeks> you've got meel!
[15:22] <lotuspsychje> lol
[15:23] <lordievader> I could do that XD
[15:23] <lordievader> It also control the music :D
[17:23] <lotuspsychje> Johnny_Linux: where do you live in the world?
[17:23] <Johnny_Linux> fla usa
[17:23] <Johnny_Linux> old fart town
[17:23] <lotuspsychje> bruges, belgium here
[17:23] <Johnny_Linux> i seen that .be
[17:24] <Johnny_Linux> how is it there
[17:24] <lotuspsychje> yeah
[17:24] <lotuspsychje> good chocolats, belgian beer, wafles and lace :p
[17:24] <Johnny_Linux> mmm beeer
[17:24] <lotuspsychje> lol
[17:24] <Johnny_Linux> D`oh!
[17:24] <lotuspsychje> -nut
[17:25] <Johnny_Linux> lol youve got meeel
[17:25] <Johnny_Linux> i tried gspeak myself
[17:25] <lotuspsychje> Johnny_Linux: is it any good?
[17:25] <lotuspsychje> !info gspeak
[17:25] <Johnny_Linux> i had to install hukt un fonix for keybords
[17:26] <lotuspsychje> !info hukt
[17:26] <Johnny_Linux> no, it sukd
[17:26] <Johnny_Linux> sucks
[17:26] <lotuspsychje> right
[17:26] <lotuspsychje> Johnny_Linux: wich distro are you on?
[17:26] <Johnny_Linux> there are other ways, i just havent time now, i run a electronics repair biz home and am swamped
[17:27] <Johnny_Linux> 12.04
[17:27] <lotuspsychje> cool
[17:27] <lotuspsychje> 14.04 64bit here
[17:27] <Johnny_Linux> tv/dvd/ham and police radio
[17:27] <Johnny_Linux> i have it on usb for install
[17:27] <Johnny_Linux> im a power user also
[17:28] <Johnny_Linux> asus overclocker
[17:28] <lotuspsychje> Johnny_Linux: cool hardware tips will come in handy for me later
[17:28] <lotuspsychje> Johnny_Linux: im preparing to start an ubuntu shop in my country
[17:28] <Johnny_Linux> asus all the way, long and strong boards, gigabyte is a runner up but have weak north bridges
[17:28] <lotuspsychje> Johnny_Linux: laptops,desktops,tablets and phones all with ubuntu + ssd
[17:29] <Johnny_Linux> very nice
[17:29] <lotuspsychje> Johnny_Linux: you think the masses will be ready for it?
[17:29] <Johnny_Linux> i have mentally ill people using ubuntu, i made everything a mouse click, they love it
[17:30] <Johnny_Linux> some times i use debian
[17:30] <lotuspsychje> Johnny_Linux: same story here, my 75 y old father cant break his trusty box
[17:30] <lotuspsychje> before, i had to come every week to fix windows
[17:30] <Johnny_Linux> excellent
[17:30] <lotuspsychje> and with ssd its bloody fast
[17:31] <Johnny_Linux> windoze really does suck
[17:31] <lotuspsychje> thats what ppl want right
[17:31] <Johnny_Linux> rly
[17:31] <Johnny_Linux> i think the ubunto phone will go over big when they get it together, a phone/pc is really ideal
[17:32] <lotuspsychje> Johnny_Linux: you mean that convergence phone?
[17:32] <Johnny_Linux> yeah
[17:32] <lotuspsychje> you always wear a pc :p
[17:32] <Johnny_Linux> lol yep
[17:32] <lotuspsychje> well for security ubuntu touch is already very nice
[17:32] <lotuspsychje> im using it on my nexus7
[17:32] <Johnny_Linux> apple and windoze have $ signs attatched to every mouse click
[17:33] <Johnny_Linux> nice
[17:33] <lotuspsychje> yeah its a paying world isnt it
[17:33] <lotuspsychje> thats where i wanna make the difference
[17:33] <Johnny_Linux> invisible economy
[17:33] <Johnny_Linux> same here
[17:33] <lotuspsychje> sell cheaper boxes without Os and install ubuntu free on it
[17:33] <Johnny_Linux> exactly
[17:33] <Johnny_Linux> i do it part time
[17:33] <lotuspsychje> +longer lifetime use with ssd
[17:33] <lotuspsychje> me too
[17:34] <lotuspsychje> Johnny_Linux: how many boxes would you have installed trusty on yet?
[17:34] <Johnny_Linux> i stay away from wd, they should be sued
[17:34] <Johnny_Linux> maybe 5
[17:34] <lotuspsychje> yeah western digital many data loss
[17:35] <Johnny_Linux> same here, bought 7 in a row, all went bad in 6 months, and they dont stand behind them
[17:35] <Johnny_Linux> new egg
[17:35] <grout> dang
[17:35] <Johnny_Linux> i quit those folks too
[17:35] <Johnny_Linux> i got the best service from amazon so far
[17:35] <lotuspsychje> i had those WD books
[17:35] <lotuspsychje> all bad also
[17:36] <Johnny_Linux> yeah , seems they are doing it on purpose for some reason
[17:36] <lotuspsychje> comercial trick lol
[17:36] <Johnny_Linux> i bought a couple seagates and they are work horses
[17:36] <lotuspsychje> release bad hardware
[17:36] <lotuspsychje> true
[17:36] <Johnny_Linux> yeah
[17:36] <lotuspsychje> im addicted to samsung ssd's now
[17:37] <Johnny_Linux> samsung makes good stuff, back when i was doing vhs repair, samsung and jvc were the best
[17:37] <Johnny_Linux> i just bought a samsung 40 inch tv
[17:38] <lotuspsychje> got one also
[17:39] <Johnny_Linux> my buddy has a thumb drive, made by G, and it gets every tv channel on the planet, free, soon as i get it up and running, ill fill you in on it
[17:39] <lotuspsychje> cool
[17:40] <lotuspsychje> Johnny_Linux: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxE2X13KBcA
[17:40] <Johnny_Linux> im not sure on how much bandwidth it uses, so, ill be interested to see
[17:40] * Johnny_Linux looks
[17:41] <lotuspsychje> talked to a server guys once, he told me he hammered samsung ssd pro 24/7 and never had 1 failure yet
[17:41] <Johnny_Linux> nice
[17:41] <Johnny_Linux> how many writes does it get
[17:42] <lotuspsychje> 550mb/sec read/write i think
[17:42] <Johnny_Linux> dog gone
[17:42] <grout> yea they are crazy fast
[17:42] <Johnny_Linux> good ram
[17:43] <grout> i have one in my laptop
[17:43] <grout> ubuntu boots in seconds
[17:43] <lotuspsychje> lol
[17:43] <lotuspsychje> grout: wich model, evo or pro
[17:44] <grout> its a pro
[17:44] <grout> 256 gig
[17:44] <lotuspsychje> Johnny_Linux: http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-512GB-2-5-Inch-Internal-MZ-7KE512BW/dp/B00LF10KTO/ref=lp_10432889011_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1435686205&sr=1-1
[17:44] <grout> can remember the exact model number
[17:44] <lotuspsychje> grout: nice mate, you should make a youtube :p
[17:44] <lotuspsychje> grout: wich ubuntu on it?
[17:44] <grout> 15.04 on that one
[17:44] <lotuspsychje> cool
[17:44] <Johnny_Linux> thats not bad price for 500g
[17:45] <lotuspsychje> i prefer 120 or 256 cheaper, and fast as rocket also
[17:45] <Johnny_Linux> i could go for a 250
[17:45] <lotuspsychje> and combine a second seagate 2tb for data storage
[17:46] <grout> yea i put a 256 gig ssd and a 500 gig 7200 rpm drive in mt laptop
[17:46] <lotuspsychje> Johnny_Linux: we really reccomend with ubuntu :p
[17:46] <lotuspsychje> grout: nice
[17:46] <lotuspsychje> grout: did you install preload
[17:46] <Johnny_Linux> i use many os's, but my main is ubuntu and debian
[17:47] <Johnny_Linux> sabayon
[17:47] <grout> this laptop was a preload
[17:47] <lotuspsychje> ive tested sabayon in the past
[17:47] <Johnny_Linux> its broke most of the time
[17:47] <grout> but i run ubuntu 14.04 on all my servers
[17:47] <lotuspsychje> !info preload | grout
[17:47] <lotuspsychje> fastn up things on ssd also :p
[17:47] <grout> ah
[17:48] <lotuspsychje> Johnny_Linux: yeah, ubuntu is very nice for updating an running stable n such
[17:48] <Johnny_Linux> agreed
[17:49] <lotuspsychje> so perfect for my store :p
[17:49] <Johnny_Linux> exactly
[17:49] <lotuspsychje> but i only have one prob, gaming isnt very high end on linux
[17:49] <Johnny_Linux> gonna check out kernel 4.2 when it is done
[17:49] <lotuspsychje> Johnny_Linux: yea readed that article of linus
[17:50] <Johnny_Linux> http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-256GB-2-5-Inch-Internal-MZ-7KE256BW/dp/B00LMXBOP4/ref=sr_1_18/187-0631412-1842243?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1435686372&sr=1-18&keywords=Internal+SSD
[17:50] <Johnny_Linux> cheap enough
[17:50] <Johnny_Linux> 137
[17:51] <Johnny_Linux> my first hd was a ps2 60 meg, it sounded like the space shuttle
[17:52] <Johnny_Linux> ok, back to work, ill be back later, be good
[17:52] <lotuspsychje> nice!
[17:59] <lotuspsychje> Johnny_Linux: http://linux.softpedia.com/blog/linux-kernel-4-2-may-end-up-being-the-biggest-release-says-linus-torvalds-485451.shtml
[17:59] <lotuspsychje> when you get back
[18:01] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: good evening mate
[18:01] <BluesKaj> Hey lotuspsychje, what's up ?
[18:02] <lotuspsychje> all fine here, high temps in our country
[18:02] <lotuspsychje> 30+
[18:02] <BluesKaj> ok, 27 and high humidity here
[18:04] <BluesKaj> the A/C is set at dehumidify, uses less power but stull makes it feel cooler
[18:05] <lotuspsychje> cool :p
[18:05] <BluesKaj> err still
[19:11] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: good evening mate
[19:21] <lotuspsychje> Bashing-om: greetings sir
[19:22] <Bashing-om> \o lotuspsychje ; Shift change ?
[19:22] <lotuspsychje> sure mate
[19:22] <lotuspsychje> im about to watch movie
the A/C is set at dehumidify, uses less power but stull makes it feel cooler
[19:23] <JanC> also makes you dehydrate faster...
[19:23] * lotuspsychje slides a beer to JanC
[19:23] <Bashing-om> I just comming on, Hoz it been ? Later I got chores I need to attend to .
[19:23] <lotuspsychje> fine fine but ttyl
[19:23] <lotuspsychje> you take it over from here :p
[19:24] <Bashing-om> Big pair of shoes to put on there .
[20:06] <Hobbet1> 1
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[00:00] <Bashing-om> DoYouKnow: Do you think it may have created so many files that now you have consumed all your disk space ?
[00:07] <mekhami> i'm having a really hard time getting gnome terminal to behave, color wise. what's my easiest alternative to set up?
[00:12] <minimec> mekhami: xfce4-terminal
[00:12] <minimec> mekhami: You might have some small dependencies of the xfce desktop, but not that much...
[00:15] <drose379> Hey guys, one of the USB ports on my brand new machine randomly will stop working once or twice a week
[00:15] <drose379> Any logs I can check to try and find the error?
[00:15] <drose379> And it also happens under windows, which leads me to think its a hardware issue
[00:20] <minimec> drose379: /var/log/syslog or /var/log/kern.log. Also try 'dmesg' in a console for some hints.
[00:20] <drose379> thanks
[00:20] <drose379> minimec do you think it sounds like a hardware issue?
[00:21] <drose379> minimec I see nothing in syslog
[00:22] <drose379> Nothing in kern.log either
[00:22] <minimec> drose379: As it happens with all OSes... maybe. Maybe you also put too many devices on one hub. Like two resource hungry USB devices.
[00:22] <drose379> I only have my phone plugged in
[00:23] <Crafted> kappa
[00:24] <minimec> drose379: If the phone uses MTP for the filesystem, that was sometimes a problem under linux, but should not be a problem under Windows.
[00:24] <drose379> hmm
[00:25] <Crafted> Hi
[00:28] <Crafted> hi
[00:32] <Crafted> hi
[00:34] <ehem> So, installing shutter via apt-get deleted my google-chrome
[00:34] <ehem> is this normal?
[00:35] <nehzah> ehem: apt-get tells you what it's doing, if you look.
[00:37] <Flannel> ehem: Where did you get chrome, and what version of ubuntu are you running?
[00:38] <razieliyo> I'm here again
[00:38] <Crafted> oi
[00:39] <razieliyo> after a walk through a lot of tries :/
[00:39] <razieliyo> is anyone using 'vesa'? it would suffice with that for me
[00:39] <Crafted> how's everyone doing?
[00:39] <ehem> 14.04 ubuntu, Im pretty sure i got google-chrome from apt-get
[00:39] <nehzah> Crafted: Channel does not need a greeter this is support.
[00:40] <Crafted> well damn
[00:40] <Flannel> nehzah: relax.
[00:40] <razieliyo> but can't get to configure it, so any help with a xorg.conf would be appreciated
[00:40] <nehzah> I am relaxed but I'll work harder
[00:40] <Flannel> ehem: You must've added repositories or something, as google chrome doesn't exist in the default repositories. Which repository did you add?
[00:41] <razieliyo> I'm giving a try at #linux or something
[00:41] <ehem> ppa:shutter/ppa?
[00:42] <ehem> while doing apt-get install shutter, it did say it would remove google-chrome, but idk why it would do that
[00:42] <ehem> it didnt give me a choice
[00:42] <Attox> hey I have a problem with a laptop. I'm dualbooting windows 8 and ubuntu but bluetooth and wifi are simply turned off
[00:42] <Attox> no physical switch, function key for wifi only works on windows
[00:42] <Flannel> ehem: You used a PPA for shutter? (What's wrong with the version in the repositories?)
[00:43] <ehem> i didnt know it had one, i followed an instruction online
[00:43] <nehzah> Attox: run in the terminal lspci and find the wifi hardware, My guess is broadcom.
[00:44] <minimec> Attox: Can you try 'rfkill list' in a console? What's the output?
[00:44] <Attox> rfkill list outputs nothing
[00:44] <ehem> http://shutter-project.org/downloads/
[00:44] <Attox> the adapter is a R8081E adapter
[00:44] <ehem> thats what i did
[00:44] <Flannel> ehem: Alright, it's probably some sort of version conflict for a library or something. I see that shutter's PPA has a lot of PPA versions of libraries. (I don't know google chrome wants, I don't know what repository you're using)
[00:45] <ehem> i see
[00:46] <ehem> guess ill just have to reinstall chrome :(
[00:46] <Flannel> ehem: This (version issues) is one of the (many) problems you can run into when using software that isn't in the repositories. It may be possible to sort out, or may not, depending on what the issues are.
[00:47] <minimec> Attox: Looks that your hardware is not recognized correctly.
[00:47] <ehem> dang..
[00:50] <Attox> is there any way to fix this? The ethernet works by the way, it's just the wifi that's giving me a headache
[00:51] <nehzah> Attox: Pastebin the whole lspci I see nothing on "R8081E adapter" R8081E seems familiar but the web shows nothing.
[00:52] <minimec> Attox: I cannot find any reference for R8081E wifi adapter. Are you sure that this is the correct model name?
[00:52] <Attox> I'll check again
[00:52] <OerHeks> Attox, does the driver menu give a driver available?
[00:52] <ehem> is there a way to check personalled added ppa repositories?
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[00:52] <ehem> see a list of them?
[00:52] <irle> Let's fell.
[00:53] <OerHeks> ehem, softwarecenter > edit > sources
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[00:53] <ehem> NICE
[00:53] <ehem> .
[00:56] <Attox> here's the pastebin
[00:56] <Attox> http://pastebin.com/SwPVnCPi
[00:57] <YokoBR> hi guys
[00:57] <YokoBR> i can't enable my gpu here... i get glxinfo name of display: :0.0 glxinfo: ../../../../../../src/gallium/drivers/ilo/core/ilo_dev.h:75: ilo_dev_assert: Assertion `dev->gen_opaque >= min_opqaue && dev->gen_opaque <= max_opqaue' failed. Abortado (imagem do núcleo gravada)
[00:57] <nehzah> !broadcom | Attox yours is Broadcom Corporation BCM43142
[00:57] <minimec> Attox: http://askubuntu.com/questions/459654/drivers-for-broadcom-bcm43142-on-ubuntu-14-04-trusty-tahr
[00:58] <Attox> okay, thanks!
[00:59] <YokoBR> also steam gives me SteamUpdateUI: An X Error occurred X Error of failed request: BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation)
[00:59] <YokoBR> seems i have no driver installed :(
[01:04] <Code_Bleu> i was messing with ip rule and ip route ( testing some pbr ) and when it didnt work, i deleted everything, and now my default route doesnt work. I even flushed the cache. Any idead?
[01:04] <Code_Bleu> s/idead/ideas/
[01:07] <matt15> hey guys, is anybody familiar with xfce on chromebooks?
[01:07] <matt15> I'm just trying to get access to Java, honestly just for runescape
[01:08] <matt15> anybody here?
[01:09] <OerHeks> !java
[01:09] <OerHeks> openJDK or oracle JDK ? and what browser?
[01:10] <matt15> i'm pretty sure i downloaded openjdk, but i can't find the download or anything like that. I did the thing in the command prompt.
[01:11] <matt15> Currently on xfce I'm only using the netsurf (I'm currently on the chromeOS)
[01:11] <OerHeks> Oh, not ubuntu ?
[01:11] <matt15> isn't xfce ubuntu...?
[01:12] <Code_Bleu> matt15: xfce is a desktop manager xubuntu is xfce on ubuntu
[01:12] <Code_Bleu> matt15: xfce can run on more than just ubuntu
[01:13] <matt15> well. dude i have no idea lol I just downloaded crouton and said like "sudo blahblahblah xfce4"
[01:13] <OerHeks> well, follow the guide, apt-get install does not give you a deb in your download folder, it installs directly
[01:14] <matt15> as in whatever is downloaded is just in there?
[01:14] <matt15> When I went into Netsurf it didnt recognize that I had Java on Runescape
[01:14] <OerHeks> Default would be where your comand is pointing at. probably ~/
[01:15] <matt15> dude i dont even know commands "pointed" at something
[01:17] <YokoBR> hi guys
[01:17] <YokoBR> i lost 3D accel. after a kernel upgrade
[01:21] <YokoBR> :(
[01:29] <lbattaglioli> hello my friends!
[01:29] <lbattaglioli> hi!]
[01:30] <anonymous_> can someone help me with me resolution??
[01:30] <lbattaglioli> i may be able to
[01:30] <anonymous_> i have a laptop, and have connected a monitor, but i am not getting the right resolution
[01:30] <lbattaglioli> im looking through the settings
[01:31] <lbattaglioli> what kind of laptop OS?
[01:31] <lbattaglioli> are you on ubuntu?
[01:31] <anonymous_> backbox
[01:32] <lbattaglioli> let me look it up
[01:32] <anonymous_> my monitor resolution is 1950x1050 but the highest i can set it in display settings is 1024x768
[01:32] <anonymous_> thx
[01:33] <lbattaglioli> try this article:
[01:33] <lbattaglioli> https://forum.backbox.org/general-support/changing-screen-resolution/
[01:33] <kelvinella> hello what is the program called that is pre-install in ubuntu which gives you autospell check?
[01:34] <anonymous_> thx <lbattaglioli>
[01:34] <lbattaglioli> no problem, did it help?
[01:34] <squinty> !backbox | squinty
[01:35] <squinty> !backbox
[01:35] <anonymous_> i will try it now
[01:37] <OerHeks> !info aspell
[01:37] <razieliyo> so
[01:37] <razieliyo> so
[01:37] <OerHeks> I don't think aspell is standard
[01:37] <razieliyo> I have to say that I SOLVED MY ISSUE
[01:37] * razieliyo dances
[01:38] <OerHeks> !yay
[01:38] <razieliyo> I did the following, I just need to spit it out
[01:39] <razieliyo> so, there was something wrong with drivers and stuff... don't know really still what happens, but... well, what I finally did was a thing that may seem very dumb to you
[01:39] <razieliyo> but well, I generated a new xorg.conf file with sudo X :0 -configure
[01:40] <razieliyo> then, launched a xorg instance with X -config /path/to/generated/xorg.conf
[01:40] <razieliyo> then, export DISPLAY=:0 to set the screen that will be used
[01:40] <razieliyo> and finally, icewm to start an icewm instance
[01:41] <razieliyo> I use awesomewm but I don't plan on turning the computer off, since there are still 2 days left of work, and I wanted this now because of that
[01:41] <razieliyo> and that's it, I know nobody cares, but I wanted to shoot this at the world
[01:43] <OerHeks> razieliyo, at least it is logged now :-)
[01:46] <__Myst__> Guys, what do I do if I don't have /usr/local/share/man/man1?
[01:46] <Bashing-om> !celebrate | razieliyo UnFalse that no one cares
[01:46] <YokoBR> guys
[01:46] <razieliyo> OerHeks: haha I think I'm starting a blog with this annecdote
[01:47] <YokoBR> please, i can't get mesa running... i aways get glxinfo name of display: :0.0 glxinfo: ../../../../../../src/gallium/drivers/ilo/core/ilo_dev.h:75: ilo_dev_assert: Assertion `dev->gen_opaque >= min_opqaue && dev->gen_opaque <= max_opqaue' failed.
[01:48] <OerHeks> YokoBR, on what videocard?
[01:48] <YokoBR> ati hd 6400
[01:48] <YokoBR> m
[01:49] <YokoBR> OerHeks: :) HD 6400m
[01:49] <__Myst__> Question: Can I just create /usr/local/share/man/man1 myself?
[01:49] <__Myst__> Is it a directory...?
[01:50] <OerHeks> YokoBR, reinstall the fglrx driver from the driver menu?
[01:50] <__Myst__> I wonder if I'm shadowbanned or something
[01:50] <__Myst__> can you be shadowbanned from irc?
[01:51] <YokoBR> OerHeks: It doesn't work. I wish i could use gallium again
[01:51] <teward> __Myst__: your messages are showing up here but you need patience
[01:51] <teward> (be patient and wait for a response)
[01:52] <__Myst__> teward: Eh, kinda sucks to never be answered.
[01:53] <Bashing-om> __Myst__: ls -al /usr/local/share/man/man1 >> ls: cannot access /usr/local/share/man/man1: No such file or directory
[01:54] <Bashing-om> __Myst__: So ^ Yes you can creat the direcory, but what is the end goal .
[01:54] <__Myst__> Bashing-om: I was asking what kind of file it was
[01:54] <__Myst__> Since it's used by some packages/programs for man pages.
[01:55] <MiniFridge> I was trying to boot off a Windows Live USB on my laptop (I got it figured out now, I needed a USB 2.0 drive, apparently), but I have a concern. It put me at the BusyBox prompt, so naturally, I typed the command "exit" as you would exit Windows PowerShell or the like, but instead of exiting the CLI, it started generating things like a swap partition. I'm concerned that I may have damaged my laptop, it boots, but I'm not sure if something got
[01:55] <MiniFridge> overwritten or what.
[01:55] <MiniFridge> Where did it generate these files? The live USB or the laptop?
[01:55] <teward> is there a way to reduce how often the system pushes things into swap?
[01:56] <notaeon> teward: yes there's a value called swappiness you can change
[01:56] <YokoBR_> after installing the fglrx driver on driver menu i get aticonfig aticonfig: No supported adapters detected
[01:56] <notaeon> !swappiness
[01:56] <notaeon> teward: here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq#What_is_swappiness_and_how_do_I_change_it.3F
[01:56] <teward> notaeon: thanks
[01:57] <amnesia__> Quantum: u on?
[02:01] <Bashing-om> __Myst__: Terminal command ' file /usr/local/share/man/man1 ' returns what ?
[02:02] <__Myst__> No such file or directory, Bashing-om
[02:03] <Bashing-om> __Myst__: Then as advised, that file does not exist .
[02:04] <__Myst__> Bashing-om: Obviously.
[02:04] <__Myst__> But ronn still tries to go for it
[02:06] <Bashing-om> __Myst__: Then if some app expects that file to exist, one can create an empty file that might satisfy the app's requirement .
[02:07] <ceollo> hello
[02:08] <ceollo> alguem do brasil
[02:08] <ceollo> ?
[02:08] <__Myst__> Bashing-om: I believe it's a directory?
[02:09] <OerHeks> __Myst__, the man pages are in/usr/share/man/man1/ folder
[02:14] <notaeon> !portuguese | ceollo
[02:16] <YokoBR> guys.. still fighting to get gallium working after kernel upgrade
[02:16] <YokoBR> :(
[02:27] <Bashing-om> YokoBR_: "gallium" is throwing me off somewhat ( fall back grahics driver - Does ' dpkg -l xserver-xorg ' come back "ii" in the 1st column ?
[02:28] <YokoBR> still can't enable gallium here :(
[02:29] <YokoBR> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09) 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Seymour [Radeon HD 6400M/7400M Series] (rev ff)
[02:29] <YokoBR> those are my vga
[02:30] <Bashing-om> YokoBR: Hybrid grahics. Not much expereince with Intel/ATI graphics sets. Seems I recall that CCSM is required .
[02:35] <Xubuntudude> hello all
[02:35] <Xubuntudude> what is the easiest way to install fonts in Xubuntu?
[02:35] <Bashing-om> YokoBR: Does https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/AMD apply ? see 4.2. Manually installing Catalyst 13.4, special case for Intel/AMD hybrid graphics .
[02:36] <prosodyContext> How do I see which partition is scsi #¹²
[02:39] <hero100> after install arm-linux-gnueabi-gcc-4.7, there is a file /usr/bin/arm-linux-gnueabi-gcc-4.7, how to generate soft link arm-linux-gnueabi-gcc automatically?
[02:40] <hero100> some package management methods ?
[02:43] <Bashing-om> !symlink | hero100
[02:43] <rock> i need help removing i2p from ubuntu
[02:44] <Bashing-om> hero100: Ummmm .. ^^ not as expected, one can creat a symbolic (soft)link to point between target and destination .
[02:46] <hero100> Bashing-om, I know symlink / soft link /hard link, there are multiple file need to set, how to do this fast
[02:46] <Redfoxie> anyone here work with ubuntu servers?
[02:47] <Bashing-om> hero100: None that I know of .
[02:47] <Redfoxie> ok thank you
[02:47] <hero100> thanks anyway
[02:51] <notaeon> Redfoxie: there is a #ubuntu-server channel
[02:52] <Redfoxie> i was just looking through the channels for that thank you
[02:52] <adexter> Hello, This might be something of a silly newbie question, but I was connected to a projector and disconnected the cable and ubuntu doesn't automatically switch back to the laptop screen. How can I set it so it automatically switches to the laptop screen when I unplug the projector?
[02:53] <nehzah> adexter: Is there a dismount?
[02:53] <adexter> My solution so far has been to go to ctrl alt f7 and hit Fn-f8 so the monitor display comes up
[02:53] <adexter> it's just a vga cable
[02:53] <adexter> I don't think so, I just use the Fn-f8 menu to select output monitor
[02:54] <adexter> When the "Select output" menu comes up (hidden by a blank screen), I hit spacebar to change it back to the normal monitor
[02:55] <adexter> This works sometimes but not always, and in those cases I just power off my computer and it auto-detects there's no monitor
[02:55] <adexter> I would really rather not do that.
[02:56] <adexter> A better formulation: what command can I enter from a TTY that will auto-detect monitors?
[03:00] <adexter> I would rather not lecture my girlfriend on how to use my laptop correctly and instead have it just autodetect that there's no more vga cable connected.
[03:00] <adexter_> Hello, This might be something of a silly newbie question, but I was connected to a projector and disconnected the cable and ubuntu doesn't automatically switch back to the laptop screen. How can I set it so it automatically switches to the laptop screen when I unplug the projector?
[03:05] <citywide> i need help removing i2p from ubuntu
[03:07] <adexter> ablest1980: How did you install it?
[03:08] <ablest1980> install what?
[03:09] <citywide> anyone know how to complete remove i2p /?
[03:09] <adexter> I assume you installed at least something, no?
[03:10] <ablest1980> i use software center
[03:11] <notaeon> citywide: how did you isntall it?
[03:12] <citywide> followed the geti2p.org website but it dosent say how to uninstall
[03:14] <jeeves_moss> how do I add a sub interface to my NIC and specify the VLAN it's on?
[03:17] <Radar> I have a server in the EU region and `curl mirrors.ubuntu.com/mirrors.txt` returns (amongst plenty of others): http://ftp.rz.tu-bs.de/pub/mirror/ubuntu-packages/
[03:18] <Radar> That address is currently timing out for me in EU and AU (where I am based) and so `apt-get update` is failing
[03:18] <Radar> How do I explicitly tell Ubuntu to avoid that server?
[03:19] <notaeon> Radar: in the mirror list prepend the url with a # to comment it out of the mirror list, it won't be read anymore
[03:20] <Guest17427> .
[03:20] <Radar> notaeon: is the mirror list stored anywhere?
[03:20] <YokoBR> gius
[03:20] <YokoBR> guys
[03:20] <Radar> notaeon: It looks like this is pulling it from mirrors.ubuntu.com/mirrors.txt
[03:20] <YokoBR> :'( still can't enable gallium on thin %@#$ laptop
[03:22] <YokoBR> i've tryied sudo apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg-core libgl1-mesa-glx:i386 libgl1-mesa-dri:i386 libgl1-mesa-glx:amd64 libgl1-mesa-dri:amd64
[03:22] <YokoBR> but didn't work :(
[03:23] <notaeon> Radar: some reading http://askubuntu.com/questions/319433/making-mirror-mirrors-ubuntu-com-highly-available
[03:26] <Bashing-om> YokoBR: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/AMD ; did you purge and (re-)install the grahics driver for your chip sets Intel/ATI ?
[03:26] <transjogja> ubuntu indonesia ada ?
[03:34] <OerHeks> !id
[03:37] <MiniFridge> Goodnight, thanks anyways
[03:47] <jsnowball> hey there. someone wants to help me 2 minutes to test something? it's a game and it's pretty fun :) i need to check if the back-end work and I can't from my computer right now...
[03:49] <salvum> Hey yall, I have a Lenovo T520 with Optimus on a NVS 4200m I would like to use it with dual monitors and i have gone through a few steps already but running into one last issue. I disabled optimus in the bios and have the dedicated card only running and disabled OS checking for it, I then installed the nvidia 331 drivers on the laptop which got me to get both screens to work but only in mirrored mode. If i
[03:50] <salvum> change drivers up or down even one version the second screen does not come on. anyone know of a way to make the duel screens work in extended monitor mode?
[03:55] <turtle_> rg
[03:56] <salvum> Another note is that when the laptop is logged out it will work with no issue
[03:57] <grinchier> salvum: maybe this will help http://askubuntu.com/questions/91221/how-to-tell-xubuntu-not-to-clone-but-to-expand-the-laptop-display-to-the-externa
[03:57] <john__> hello
[03:58] <bojan> Why grtting error while updating http://paste.ubuntu.com/11797021/ ??\
[03:58] <salvum> thanks grinchier
[03:59] <xangua> bojan: open software centre, edit menu, sources, first tab, disable CD source
[04:00] <bojan> xangua:This is in another root..am having two root ..I cant access software centre in that only command line
[04:02] <dadis> bojan, https://duckduckgo.com/?q=edit+apt+sources
[04:04] <bojan> dadis:This is not looking like solution...Confusing
[04:06] <jsnowball> someone has a minute to help me test an online game? i can't from my current setup and I just need to know if it's online...it's on gamejolt
[04:09] <locksmith2> How do I make Google Maps sound like The Terminator?
[04:15] <Osmodivs> Hello. I compiled Blender and have it in a folder in /Public, I now have Blender in the /menu/graphics, and everytime I open it it opens a Terminal window, but it opens a tiny little ugly pixelated LXTerminal, instead of my MATE, terminal, How do I change that?
[04:16] <bojan> I have corrupted my sources.list and sources.list.d...Is there any possibilities to update that as new??
[04:20] <bojan> I am getting this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/11797080/ ??
[04:22] <jak2000> http://pastie.org/10265431 <--- line8 this hard disk of 4tb formated with mkfs ext4 i want repartitioning (create 4 partitions 1tb each one) how do this? andof course mount each partition in /etc/fstab file how do it?
[04:26] <nicekiwi> when I run "ls -al" the format i get is: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 226 Jun 30 16:24
[04:26] <nicekiwi> what does the number 226 mean?
[04:33] <Ben64> nicekiwi: size
[04:33] <jak2000> Ben64 and for me?
[04:33] <MACscr> my syslog is showing a lot of ntpd entries and it appears to be listening on all interfaces. 1) If its just an ntp client, it shouldnt be listening at all, right? Shouldnt it be just be checking a remote server? listen sounds like its listening to take requests from other clients. Am i right?
[04:34] <nicekiwi> Ben64, in bytes i asssume :)
[04:34] <Ben64> nicekiwi: yep
[04:34] <nicekiwi> cool :)
[04:34] <nicekiwi> ty
[04:34] <Ben64> np
[04:36] <doctorly_> I have a asus usb-n13, I just did a fresh install of 14.04 lts, I had internet in and out for a little bit and now I have none. I followed the steps outlined here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/168627/connecting-asus-usb-n13-wireless-adapter. and downloaded the driver here: http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=21&PFid=48&Level=5&Conn=4&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false&Downloads=true. BUT I have no internet to do
[04:37] <doctorly_> Also I downloaded the driver, but I can't install it as I don't know how to compile it from source.
[04:37] <doctorly_> Especially without the tools in the guide.
[04:38] <bojan> I am getting this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/11797080/
[04:38] <doctorly_> also, I didn't state that this is a wireless card problem, the usb-n13 is a wireless card.
[04:39] <joshua__> I'm looking for some help enabling ssh on Linux mint. Suggestions for a channel to join to ask this question?
[04:41] <xangua> !mint | joshua__
[04:43] <joshua__> @ubottu: ok, actually I was just joining that as you mentioned it. thanks
[04:45] <doctorly_> Can you guys here me, or am I muted
[04:45] <doctorly_> just checking
[04:47] <gunndawg> i cannot hear you, though I see your text/chat
[04:51] <jak2000> Ben64 its ok? http://pastie.org/10265449
[04:51] <jak2000> i patitioned my HDD4tb
[04:52] <doctorly_> gunndawg: Hear has other definitions, I used a very popular one.
[05:10] <ljq> .
[05:12] <pragomer> someone could help me understanding and creating an own udev-rule?
[05:12] <ljq> q
[05:19] <tiblock> Hi. I use ubuntu 14.04 and mine load average is very high, from 0.5 to 1.7 but there is only little node.js app running, and htop says 0% cpu, but sometimes CPU load jumps to ~80% but top process using only 0.7% CPU http://i.imgur.com/WVWarS3.png
[05:19] <tiblock> I don't understand what is happening, why LA so high? And what is using CPU?
[05:21] <tiblock> oh, now LA is 2.08 -_-
[05:21] <ubuntu996> tiblock: I would install htop, I thinks it's easier to navigate.
[05:21] <tiblock> ubuntu996, it is htop
[05:22] <ubuntu996> ah my mistake, use the down key to look through all the info
[05:23] <tiblock> ubuntu996, i sorted processes by CPU usage, top1 process using only 0.7% CPU
[05:23] <ubuntu996> not sure myself
[05:23] <aj1114> I have a laptop on which I've installed php + mysql, now I'd like to be able to connect to it's /var/www/html from other devices/computers using it's ip (I guess this is the simplest thing) but it doesn't return anything I should open port 80 or something else?
[05:24] <tiblock> ubuntu996, there load spikes happening like once in 7 seconds, other time is this - https://i.imgur.com/Rd7TpqA.png
[05:24] <tiblock> ubuntu996, 0.7% CPU and very high LA
[05:24] <Nerdking> hello
[05:24] <tiblock> aj1114, did you installed apache?
[05:25] <aj1114> tiblock: yup, the server works fine on localhost, I have been able to run some wordpress sites..
[05:26] <Nerdking> Got some questions about ubuntu
[05:26] <tiblock> aj1114, do you know about "NAT" and "port forwarding"? Did you checked that?
[05:27] <Bray90820> Any web developers on here that can test out a page it seems to only be messing up on ubuntu
[05:27] <Bray90820> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/33402675/IB3A/Index.html
[05:33] <ojik> hallo test
[05:34] <aj1114> tiblock: sorry for the slow reply, thank you for your help, I've guessed that I need to forward the port but I haven't done this before and didn't knew if that was the correct step, I have no idea what NAT is .. what would be the next step? search about NAT? or I can just search a step by step how to about port forwarding?
[05:34] <tiblock> aj1114, let's not flood in main channel, check private message
[05:39] <AppAraat> hi everyone, I'm in a bit of a pickle... I just freshly installed 14.04 netinstall, but I'm now in a situation where I don't have an Ethernet cable to connect to the router. However, I do know the wifi password. Is there any method of connecting to the wifi on a fresh install? I'd install wicd-cli or wicd-curses but ehm... I don't have an Internet connection :p
[05:40] <tiblock> AppAraat, i'm not sure about ubuntu, run "which wpa_supplicant". Is it showing anything?
[05:43] <AppAraat> tiblock: ah yep it does. Last time I checked it was a pretty involved process of connecting to the wifi using wpa_supplicant, but I'll check out a tutorial.
[05:43] <tiblock> AppAraat, yeah, check tutorial. I don't remember how to do it too.
[05:45] <jak2000> anyone know how to add a user in samba?
[05:49] <TheC4mel> Within (any kind of DAW, particularly Ardour), is there a way to channel certain instruments to their own tracks as you record them, instead of them all being merged into one track as you record?
[05:51] <ubuntu996> TheC4mel: YOu familar with the #opensourcemusians channel
[05:52] <ubuntu996> #opensourcemusician.com sorry
[05:52] <ubuntu996> err no com
[05:52] <ImJune_> lel, until now no io support for my touchpad on my laptop
[05:53] <ImJune_> windows and BSD support it however
[05:53] <ImJune_> why is linux so fail?
[06:00] <michael_p> has anyone had probs with 219
[06:00] <michael_p> in 15:04
[06:15] <indah> ??
[06:16] <AppAraat> what on earth. "Operation not possible due to RF-kill" ... I don't have a wifi hardware switch. Instead I have that blue wifi Fn logo on F2 (which is supposed to be (de)activated when pressing Fn+F2).
[06:16] <AppAraat> I pressed it but it's still RF-kill.
[06:16] <AppAraat> what's more weird is that during install of 14.04 netinstall I could connect using wifi.
[06:17] <indah> ??
[06:21] <netameta> How can i move entire directories content to another ?
[06:22] <BayesianBoojum> netama: mv my_dir/* other_dir/
[06:22] <BayesianBoojum> netameta*
[06:23] <netameta> thanks
[06:29] <Sunson_> anyone worked with lmms?
[06:29] <Sunson_> I'm new to ubuntu
[06:29] <michael_p> i am trying to get mine bug free
[06:33] <Rene_x> welcome to Ubuntu then Sunson :)
[06:37] <Sunson_> michael_p how do i recognize bugs? might be what i'm going through...
[06:37] <michael_p> starting service 219
[06:37] <jezeniel> is the leap second being handled by newer kernel version?
[06:37] <Sunson_> Rene_x thanks for the welcome!
[06:37] <Rene_x> I'm about to wipe ubuntu 12 lts 32 bit and install ubuntu 14 lts 64 bit, I currently have a 6 GB swap file, i got the idea the swap is not used much, what would you all recommend for the swap drive size for ubuntu 14 ?
[06:38] <locksmith2> Helloo
[06:38] <Rene_x> np sunson :)
[06:38] <michael_p> running kubuntu 15:04
[06:43] <hateball> Rene_x: swap has nothing to do with your distro version, but rather how much RAM you have and if you intend to use suspend at all
[06:45] <Rene_x> yeh i don't use hibernation, i read for that u need 1x to 2x the ram size, i got 12 gb ram atm with a 6 gig swap
[06:46] <TJ-> Rene_x: generally, 1.2x RAM is sufficient for hibernation
[06:48] <Rene_x> I guess i best leave the swap size as it is,i guess it's not used much but I don't also really need to gain 4 or 5 extra gig on the harddrive
[06:50] <TJ-> Rene_x: I find S3 sleep (suspend-to-RAM) is all I ever need
[06:51] <Rene_x> i have never used hibernation or suspend to ram, as i'm normaly not working on big projects where i wnt to leave everything open, i'm used to closing down everything
[06:51] <Rene_x> booting from ssd is fast enough
[06:52] <michael_p> if i installed ubuntu would i get the same error
[06:52] <TJ-> Rene_x: I tend to have a lot going on and want to maintain context so S3 is very useful
[06:52] <Rene_x> yeh i can imagine
what error ?
[06:53] <michael_p> starting service 219
[06:54] <AppAraat> I want to share my wifi connection of machine A through an ethernet cable to my offline machine B. What tutorials can I look up for that?
ah sorry i don't know what that is/means
[06:54] <michael_p> the bug starting service 219
[06:55] <netameta> I am doing sudo apt-get install mysql-server-5.6 and i am getting : E: Unable to locate package mysql-server5.6
[06:55] <netameta> E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'mysql-server5.6'
[06:56] <netameta> Anyone knows why ?
machine A would need to be setup as a proxy server to redirect the traffic to machine b i think
[06:58] <locksmith2> hi
[06:59] <locksmith2> weechat > irssi IMgo
[06:59] <locksmith2> IMHO
[07:00] <Name141> How long is it before the next LTS ?
[07:03] <explodes> Why does interop between mac os x drives and ubuntu suck so bad
[07:03] <explodes> This "Time Machine" disk mounts as read-only for some reason
[07:03] <Rene_x> what is the currently preferred/most secure encryption algorithm used for full disk/swap encryption, out of the box when i go install ubuntu ?
[07:03] <explodes> If I format it HFS+ w/ gparted, the Mac doesn't recognize the disk
[07:04] <Rene_x> ubuntu 14*
[07:05] <Rene_x> i'm reading i should use : dm-crypt or LUKS or cryptsetup they are all equaly good ?
[07:05] <locksmith2> for full disk?
[07:05] <locksmith2> LUKS
[07:05] <Rene_x> yeh
[07:05] <Rene_x> okay i go with that :) thanks
[07:06] <locksmith2> thats what Ubuntu does by default in its installer
[07:06] <Rene_x> okay :)
[07:06] <locksmith2> but if ur encrypting just a folder, CryptFS
[07:06] <TJ-> Rene_x: all the same thing :)
[07:06] <Rene_x> yeh i'm just preparing stuff, and gethering documentations before wiping the disk and installing
[07:06] <locksmith2> just remember, all encryption is crackable
[07:06] <Rene_x> ah lol tj
[07:07] <Rene_x> true, they can still crap up my grub
[07:07] <TJ-> Rene_x: dm_crypt is the underlying encryption device. LUKS is a protocol/format for managing the keys used by dm_crypt; cryptsetup is the userspace tool for managing the encrypted devices
[07:07] <AppAraat> Rene_x: I've heard recent grub can be encrypted as well.
[07:07] <locksmith2> and if you do full disk, and just 1 bit is off, the whole disk is off
[07:07] <locksmith2> I mean wrong
[07:08] <TJ-> Rene_x: You can encrypt GRUB's /boot/ file-system too... I've been doing that for a couple years now
[07:08] <explodes> what the fuuuuck m8
[07:08] <Rene_x> i'm sort of worried atm that it's too easy to get in to linux from windows, if it's not encrypted, as i'm unsure how easy it would be to read/write to ext4 from windows
[07:08] <Rene_x> ow is that in the install also or does that require extra steps tj ?
[07:08] <explodes> This HFS+ will not remount as rw, it says "Read-only file system" - what am I missing here?
[07:08] <locksmith2> explodes: HFS is only read
[07:09] <locksmith2> I believe ....
[07:09] <locksmith2> no support for writing is coded
[07:09] <explodes> :|
[07:09] <locksmith2> could be wron
[07:09] <locksmith2> wrong... but I run ubuntu on macbook pro
[07:10] <explodes> Ah, you're right: "You need to turn off the journaling if you want to write to it from Ubuntu. Ubuntu only has support for writing to non-journaled HFS+ volumes."
[07:10] <locksmith2> yep
[07:10] <locksmith2> I wanted to share a partition with osx .. couldnt
[07:10] <TJ-> Rene_x: It's a long time since I played with the installers, I usually pre-configure the volumes/partitioning myself then point the installer to the locations. But, on the GRUB issue, if you encrypt the /boot/ file-system then all you need to do is add "GRUB_ENABLE_CRYPTODISK=y" to "/etc/default/grub" and GRUB will do what is needed. If you go that route the encrypted fie-system must have a typable passphrase (you can't currently use a key-file to unlock GRUB)
[07:10] <explodes> OSX's Disk Utility can only make journaled partitions
[07:10] <pezus1> hi. is there a way to force non-efi installation via ubuntu? i try to install 15.04 via usb-stick on a dell notebook which is running in legacy mode (no uefi) but when booting the boot menu says it boots the stick via efi so ubuntu installs via efi. but after reboot it says "invalid partition table"
[07:11] <locksmith2> yes
[07:11] <explodes> Gparted can make HFS+, I'd assume it isn't journalled at taht point... but OSX complains about the drive
[07:11] <Name141> I'm guessing I probably might as well install the LTS version of *buntu if I don't want to be bothered for a while ?
[07:11] <locksmith2> pezus1: get the NON-efi ISO
[07:11] <locksmith2> get the non-efi installer
[07:11] <Rene_x> TJ- so what i need to do, is install ubuntu 14 normaly with full disk/swap encryption, and then after it's installed add "GRUB_ENABLE_CRYPTODISK=y" to "/etc/default/grub" ?
[07:12] <TJ-> pezus1: When you boot you'd need to select the legacy boot option of the installer ISO. Most UEFI systems will list the device the installer is on twice, once for UEFI and again for Legacy BIOS boot
[07:13] <explodes> locksmith2: "in disk-utility select the partition, hold "OPTION" and Click the File menu, select the disable-journaling option" ecks dee ecks dee
yes if you don't want to re-install every year go for the latest LTS version with 5 years support
[07:14] <locksmith2> explodes: I dont use osx anymore
[07:14] <locksmith2> cant stand the "smooth" fonts
[07:15] <explodes> haha
[07:15] <explodes> At home, my osx is just for music stuff
[07:15] <TJ-> Rene_x: During installation you'd need to pause after creating a partition for the /boot/ file-system, use a terminal, and use "cryptsetup luksFormat ..." to apply encryption to the /boot/ partition, then unlock it with "cryptsetup luksOpen ... LUKS_boot" put a file-system on it then return to the installer and point it to the LUKS_boot device. I think sometimes you have to force the installer to *refresh* its knowledge of the partitioning after you do that by dro
[07:15] <TJ-> pping back 1 step and then re-entering manual partitioning
[07:15] <Rene_x> i will try out osx as son as i canbuild my own apple pc from parts :P
[07:15] <locksmith2> WHat I think is cool thought is that FreeBSD comes with a EFI bootloader now
[07:15] <explodes> Rene_x: so never?
[07:15] <locksmith2> which is awesome and what Linux should do
[07:16] <TJ-> locksmith2: Linux has been able to directly boot from UEFI for a while now
i guess xD
[07:16] <TJ-> locksmith2: And Intel have done some work to enable the kernel to direct-boot on BIOS/MBR too
okay so , i need to do this from a terminal and not use the standard route
[07:17] <locksmith2> yeah I don't care much anymore but freebsd booted up like a champ on my macbook pro in EFI.. but Ubuntu it took me 2 nights to install in EGI
[07:17] <locksmith2> EFI *
[07:17] <TJ-> Rene_x: Correct... the installer is for the mass requirements... it always lags behind on things like this because it is a VERY complex codebase that has to cope with masses of variables
[07:18] <locksmith2> well, freebsd had the correct video drivers at least...
[07:18] <locksmith2> in efi mode
[07:19] <locksmith2> I even installed OpenBSD with X11 on my macbook pro
[07:19] <TJ-> locksmith2: I think that's more an issue of the Macbook, last time I looked it required some special steps to install cleanly. Regular IBM-PC style UEFI installs are no different to MBR installs
[07:19] <locksmith2> but I couldnt get anything else to work... especially the video drivers
[07:19] <TJ-> locksmith2: Not surprising when Apple based their OS on the BSDs
[07:20] <locksmith2> Well you basically have to use something called ... reFIT
[07:20] <TJ-> locksmith2: Indeed, because the Apple EFI implementation isn't UEFI and is locked down to Apple specific requirements
[07:20] <locksmith2> http://www.rodsbooks.com/refind/ I mean ... rEFInd
[07:21] <locksmith2> AND you need osx first to install refind
[07:21] <locksmith2> then you can boot into the installer in efi mode
[07:21] <explodes> nautilus really shits the bed in a lot of edge cases, what's a good window manager that isn't (IMHO) ugly like gnome or kde?
[07:21] <Rene_x> TJ- thanks for the crypt info, good that I asked here, or I would not have attempted to encrypt grub :)
[07:21] <locksmith2> what I would love is BitLocker on a macbook
[07:22] <locksmith2> no....
[07:22] <locksmith2> not that
[07:23] <locksmith2> UEFI secure boot!
[07:23] <locksmith2> that would be great
[07:23] <locksmith2> because then its hardware locked bootloader
[07:23] <locksmith2> cant override the bootloader
[07:23] <locksmith2> well it has to be signed
[07:24] <locksmith2> by a hardware manufacurer
[07:24] <pezus1> alright, thanks guys!
[07:25] <Amm0n> + infected OS can manipulate the firmware of your bios.. even remotly.. what a security improvement.. lol
[07:26] <explodes> la /media/evan
[07:26] <explodes> ohey
[07:28] <locksmith2> test
[07:29] <AppAraat> what are you testing locksmith2 ?
[07:30] <locksmith2> irc client
[07:31] <Rene_x> :)
[07:33] <Trinity> hi, can someone explain to me what ls -l prints out?
[07:33] <Trinity> i know drwxrwxrwx portion
[07:33] <Trinity> but right after theres some numbers
[07:33] <Trinity> ranging from 1-200
[07:33] <Trinity> what do those mean?
[07:33] <Trinity> ranging from 1-117
[07:33] <locksmith2> File size
[07:34] <locksmith2> try this command: ls -alh
[07:34] <Trinity> ah
[07:34] <Trinity> how many files are in there
[07:34] <Trinity> locksmith2, ooooh
[07:34] <Trinity> i like that command :D thanks
[07:35] <locksmith2> ls | wc -l
[07:35] <locksmith2> thats how many files
[07:35] <locksmith2> ls -l | wx -l
[07:36] <locksmith2> anyone else from the bay area?
[07:37] <Trinity> locksmith2, I think ls -hal
[07:37] <Trinity> is a good one :)
[07:37] <Trinity> good mnemonic haha
[07:37] <locksmith2> I like -alh
[07:37] <micalm> Trinity: I can't let you do that
[07:37] <Rene_x> i'm from the netherlands :') sorry
[07:37] <micalm> ;)
[07:38] <daedeloth> My ubuntu 15.04 setup can't seem to detect the company wifi signal, but I can connect to other wifi networks just fine
[07:38] <daedeloth> been googling for a while, but no idea what's goingon
maybe two wifi signals are on the same channel ?
[07:40] <daedeloth> my colleagues can connect just fine
[07:40] <Trinity> daedeloth, cant connect or can't detect?
[07:40] <daedeloth> can't detect
[07:41] <Trinity> maybe it's out of range
[07:41] <Trinity> ;D
[07:41] <daedeloth> I can see other wifi networks
[07:41] <Trinity> check with your phone
[07:41] <daedeloth> phone is connected
[07:41] <Trinity> same hardware?
[07:41] <daedeloth> no my phone is a phone :p
[07:41] <Trinity> your ubuntu and your colleagues?
[07:42] <daedeloth> ah, no, everyone is on macbooks here
can't you use a cable for the install temporarily, maybe it's easier to debug after installation ?
[07:42] <daedeloth> ah no it's installed
[07:42] <daedeloth> I just can't connect
[07:42] <b0nn> Hi all, I'm having some serious issues with udev. I can't write to a usb device unless I'm root, no matter what I set my udev rule to
[07:42] <b0nn> $ cat /etc/udev/rules.d/41-usb-weather-device.rules
[07:42] <b0nn> SUBSYSTEM=="usb", ATTR{idVendor}=="1941", ATTR{idProduct}=="8021", MODE="666"
[07:42] <Trinity> maybe different frequencies or something
[07:43] <explodes> daedeloth: doubt it's an issue, but are you using network-manager or wicd?
[07:43] <daedeloth> network-manager
[07:44] <explodes> with my particular network adapter, i had to switch to wicd
[07:44] <daedeloth> airplane mode seems to be on though
[07:44] <daedeloth> which is strange, since I'm connected to phone right now
[07:44] <locksmith2> try changing the wifi router channel
[07:44] <locksmith2> but u probly cant
[07:45] <locksmith2> try setting the ISO standards from Europe to North America
[07:45] <locksmith2> ^^ also would be in the Wifi hub settings
[07:46] <locksmith2> theres like a Euorope/US mode that wifi routers have
[07:46] <daedeloth> locksmith2, afraid I only have access to my client side here :p
[07:46] <Rene_x> EU has more restricted Frequencies i think
[07:46] <Rene_x> then usa
[07:47] <Rene_x> less frequency channels in eu i mean
[07:47] <locksmith2> U might have to install with a wire, and then update the Wifi driver
[07:47] <locksmith2> after u install update the wifi driver
[07:48] <Rene_x> thanks all for the help & tips, going off to test the boot dvd , cya all on the other side ;) o/
[07:49] <daedeloth> the stranges thing is that airplane mode sign is on
[07:49] <daedeloth> maybe the wifi chip doesn't get enough power then or something
[07:49] <explodes> bye Rene_x
[07:55] <Amm0n> daedeloth, maybe your wifi chipset isn't fully supported. See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[07:56] <Amm0n> and: http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/
[07:56] <JohnD> Hi. I have a problem with, ironically, the current general topic. I'm having troubles getting my USB wifi adapter working with Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. The adapter is the SMC EZ Connect g (SMC2862W-G).
[07:56] <JohnD> I followed the instructions at https://wiki.debian.org/prism54 but the wlan0 interface does not seem to be listed
[07:57] <locksmith2> ohh
[07:57] <Amm0n> daedeloth, and JohnD: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide
[07:58] <locksmith2> nevermind
[07:58] <locksmith2> i was thinking freebsd again :s
[08:06] <meandrain> hi. what is the best approach to iptables rules? Where should I add them so those rules are loaded when system start?
[08:09] <Amm0n> JohnD, all i can find is that your hardware is not supported out of the box: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1773593 and http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/saucy/man4/upgt.4freebsd.html
[08:11] <BlueShark> How can I check if I'm indeed using Google DNS?
[08:11] <DoYouKnow> how do I view my wifi connected rate?
[08:11] <Amm0n> meandrain, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo or have a look at ufw: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW
[08:12] <meandrain> Amm0n: thanx
[08:20] <kayla2> does anyone know how to get fn keys to work?
[08:20] <kayla2> like dim screen adjust volume ect? if they have those functions
[08:28] <bojan> Can anyone tell me how to configure joomla on ubuntu 14.04??
[08:29] <OnkelTem> Hi all. Is anybody using an external monitor which is connected via USB (DisplayLink)?
[08:29] <OnkelTem> http://askubuntu.com/questions/529048/how-to-setup-asus-mb168b-usb-monitor-in-linux-mint - this looks like a non-negotiable NO
[08:29] <cfhowlett> !joomla | OnkelTem
[08:30] <OnkelTem> cfhowlett: missed!
[08:37] <Samurairm> hi
[08:39] <fotoflo> hello all. I am running a production webserver on Ubuntu Server. How do i set the envirnment variables for sudo?
[08:40] <TJ-> OnkelTem: Interesting :) do you have a pastebin of "/var/log/dmesg" and "lsusb" report ?
[08:41] <TJ-> fotoflo: "man sudo"
[08:41] <OnkelTem> TJ-: no, I haven't purchased it yet. Reading this thread now: http://support.displaylink.com/forums/287786-displaylink-feature-suggestions/suggestions/7988955-support-linux-on-all-your-devices . Please vote if you care :)
[08:42] <TJ-> OnkelTem: We have DisplayLink support but it depends on the particular chipset, just as with WiFi and other technologies
[08:42] <Samurairm> hi gm
[08:43] <OnkelTem> TJ-: from their website FAQ it follows that they support only 1x series of drivers, while modern devices (like from ASUS) using 3x and 5x series of chips (or something like that)
[08:43] <fotoflo> TJ-: I used -E and launched my server… *this worked* but it seems like a bad practice
[08:43] <OnkelTem> TJ-: 1x series of chipset*
[08:43] <fotoflo> for a produciton server
[08:44] <Samurairm> i install browesr qtweb on my xubuntu 14.04
[08:44] <Samurairm> but when install non pacages
[08:44] <Samurairm> i have installed ppa
[08:45] <Samurairm> sudo apt-add-repository ppa:nathan-renniewaldock/ppa
[08:45] <Samurairm> and uptade
[08:45] <Samurairm> after sudo pat-get install qtweb
[08:45] <Samurairm> but
[08:48] <TJ-> fotoflo: From "man sudo": "Environment variables to be set for the command may also be passed on the command line in the form of VAR=value, e.g. LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/pkg/lib. Variables passed on the command line are subject to restrictions ..."
[08:48] <OnkelTem> TJ-: this seems to be the most requent "idea": http://support.displaylink.com/forums/287786-displaylink-feature-suggestions/filters/top
[08:48] <OnkelTem> frequent*
[08:49] <Samurairm> because impossibile trovare il paccheto qtweb??
[08:49] <Samurairm> hel p me
[08:49] <fotoflo> TJ- thanks. do you think that’s the best practice? Put the launch command in a script and run it like that?
[08:49] <k1l> !it | Samurairm
[08:49] <OnkelTem> if only I had a magic wand to send ass pain to slackers, I would rain down my damnation to Canon and DisplayLink team
[08:49] <Samurairm> im banned
[08:49] <Samurairm> because my childre
[08:49] <Samurairm> children write
[08:49] <Samurairm> because banned from 1 years
[08:50] <Samurairm> hel pme
[08:50] <k1l> what ubuntu are you on?
[08:50] <TJ-> OnkelTem: The thing is, the in-kernel UDL driver is being continuously updated but I don't see contributing authors from DisplayLink identified there, so I'd say the in-kernel support is not dependent on the USB standard. Maybe that DisplayLink comment is about their own proprietary drivers
[08:51] <OnkelTem> TJ-: Sure it is opensource. The exact quote from the FAQ: An open source driver is available, for DL-1x5 devices which is now built into the Linux kernel. Linux support for DL-3x00 or DL-41xx is not currently available.
[08:52] <TJ-> fotoflo: That's the usual way but best to check with the people more focused on server issues in #ubuntu-server. Usually server services/applications are started by the init system which runs as root
[08:52] <OnkelTem> TJ-: so there is some proprietary binary stuff in there :(
[08:52] <fotoflo> TJ-: thanks, that makes sense
[08:52] <TJ-> OnkelTem: point me to that? Because I'm looking at the source code in-kernel right now
[08:53] <OnkelTem> TJ-: http://www.displaylink.com/for-business/common_questions.php
[08:53] <OnkelTem> afk
[08:53] <TJ-> OnkelTem: The reason I find it strange is that the particular USB protocol (v1, v2 v3) buses are separate from the devices that use the bus, so in theory there's no reason UDL won't operate with a USB3 bus device
[08:54] <Samurairm> because im banned from one years on ubuntu-it
[08:54] <Samurairm> admin helpe
what ubuntu are you on?
[08:55] <bazhang> Samurairm, thats not on topic here, contant the ops of that channel
[08:55] <k1l> Samurairm: and like we told you all the time: talk to the ops of that channel.
[08:55] <Samurairm> ok ty
[08:55] <bazhang> Samurairm, STOP asking here
[08:55] <BertalanImi> Good day Everyone! :)
[08:56] <Samurairm> stop stop
[08:56] <Samurairm> fuck
[08:57] <Samurairm> one years
[08:57] <Samurairm> banned
[08:57] <TJ-> OnkelTem: you may find this interesting: http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/drivers/gpu/drm/udl/udl_drv.c#L103
[08:57] <BertalanImi> ph, wao. It is killing time here?
[08:58] <bazhang> BertalanImi, #ubuntu-offtopic for chat
[08:59] <TJ-> OnkelTem: the implication of that comment is simply adding additional entries to 'id_table' with the required bInterfaceSubClass and .bInterfaceProtocol would at least begin to support the newer devices
[09:00] <BertalanImi> Why was he banned? Just so I won't make the same mistake. :D
[09:00] <k1l> !guidelines | BertalanImi
[09:02] <BertalanImi> I see :D
[09:02] <BertalanImi> and what if someone asks an offtopic question (that is not ubuntu, but linux related) ? :P Not planing to, just asking :D
[09:03] <Johnny_Linux> gallos
[09:04] <k1l> BertalanImi: sometimes the person gets directed to the specialised channel or to the offtopic channel, or ##linux . we try to keep this channel clear for support of ubuntu.
[09:05] <BertalanImi> I see. :) Glad I'M not so noobish now with it, tho I have to use Fedora and CentOS nowdays
[09:05] <BertalanImi> but it is good to have my ubuntu at home :D
[09:07] <Samurairm> Impossibile entrare in #ubuntu-it (Sei bannato).
[09:07] <Samurairm> fuck
[09:08] <THEsecretperson> hey
[09:14] <blz> Hello, I'm trying to resize my root partition online using resize2fs. `sudo df -h` reports that the partition has the following characteristics: /dev/sdb1 9.3G 6.5G 2.4G 74% / However, when I run `sudo resize2fs /dev/sdb1 14G`, I get the following output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11797940/
[09:15] <blz> What am I doing wrong?
[09:16] <TJ-> blz: you cannot make a file-system larger than the partition it is contained in
[09:17] <blz> TJ-: Yes, that makes sense, but I'm trying to resize both the partition and the filesystem to 14GB
[09:17] <blz> TJ-: the googles seem to suggest that resize2fs is the way to go
[09:17] <TJ-> blz: you'll need to resize the partition first, tell the kernel to rescan the partition table, *then* resize the file-system
[09:18] <TJ-> blz: the partition can only be resized if there is free space immediately following it
[09:18] <MonkeyDust> blz i guess you need LVM partitioning to do what you want
[09:18] <blz> TJ-: yes, that's the case.
[09:18] <blz> MonkeyDust: from the cursory reading i've been doing, it seems as though growing partitions can be done online as of kernel 2.6
[09:19] <blz> TJ-: what can I use to grow the partition, bearing in mind that this is being done online?
[09:19] <TJ-> blz: Is there some reason you need to expand the root file-system, other than to use up spare space on the disk?
[09:19] <blz> TJ-: yes, I'm running out of space
[09:20] <TJ-> blz: use any partitioning tool that'll support changing the size... the partition table is only 64 bytes (16 bytes per partition) for MBR (128 bytes per partition on GPT), and simply stores the starting offset and ending offset
[09:20] <blz> TJ-: so fdisk, then?
[09:21] <TJ-> blz: An alternative is to use a separate file system for a sub-section of the root space; for example I have a separate FS for /var/ and additional FSes for /var/cache/ amongst others
[09:22] <blz> TJ-: I think I'd rather just attempt to grow the whole thing. It's nothing insanely critical, so if I break it, I break it :)
[09:22] <TJ-> blz: I generally allocate ~8GB for the core root FS, and then use additional growable FSes for various mount points, and I use LVM for everything which makes allocating more/less space trivially easy
[09:22] <blz> TJ-: hm I guess I could do that
[09:23] <TJ-> blz: I think fdisk has avanced-menu options to resize... if not, simply delete the partition and recreate it at the same starting sector and accept the default size and it'll use all free space up to the next partition, set the type the same, and you're done
[09:24] <hadifarnoud> this bash script with sed work but I want '<script language="javascript" instead. how can I skip ' in sed?
[09:24] <TJ-> blz: then tell the kernel with "sudo partprobe" or "sudo kpartx -a /dev/sdb" (depending on which tool you have available), then you can do "sudo resize2fs /dev/sdb1" and it'll automatically use up all the spare space in the partition
[09:24] <hadifarnoud> maybe I can start sed with another character instead of ' ?
[09:25] <TJ-> hadifarnoud: escape-it within the sed expression with \'
[09:25] <blz> TJ-: this is my root partition so I can't really delete/recreate it. I don't see anything pertaining to resizing in the fdisk advanced menu, either :/
[09:26] <hadifarnoud> TJ-:the problem is line 8. it should be like '<script language="javascript" src="http://camva.ir/assets/js/overhead.js"></script></body>'
[09:27] <auronandace|work> blz: when editing partitions it is usually best to do it from live media
[09:27] <TJ-> blz: yes you can. All deleting does is blank the 16 bytes representing the partition location... you then immediately create a New partition, same starting sector, and accept the default size, set the type, and then check the table with "p" (print) to be sure its correct, then write it
[09:27] <hadifarnoud> it doesn't work when I try \'<script language="javascript" src="http://camva.ir/assets/js/overhead.js"></script></body>\'
[09:27] <blz> auronandace|work: that's not an option, unfortunately
[09:27] <blz> TJ-: ah ok, I didn't know that. I'll give it a whirl
[09:28] <TJ-> blz: whilst you're inside fdisk it only edits its in-memory copy of the partition table... if you don't like what you've done Quit out and it won't change anything on disk
[09:28] <blz> TJ-: gotcha. cool!
[09:29] <mgolisch> blz: why not?
[09:29] <blz> mgolisch: no access to the machine, presently
[09:29] <mgolisch> oh i see
[09:29] <mgolisch> ipmi ftw
[09:32] <blz> TJ-: It seems to have worked, but I'd appreciate it if you could just double-check the output before I reboot: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11798051/
[09:32] <blz> I suspect the zram errors aren't a big deal
[09:33] <TJ-> blz can you pastebin both "fdisk -l /dev/sdb" and "cat /proc/partitions" ?
[09:34] <drone01> ...
[09:34] <blz> TJ-: fdisk: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11798055/ and /proc/partitions: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11798057/
[09:35] <TJ-> blz: they match, that's fine. You don't need to do anything else (no reboot required for this)
[09:36] <blz> TJ-: wonderful, thank you!
[09:36] <blz> TJ-: one last question: how would I assign /dev/sdb2 (just created it earlier) as swap?
[09:37] <blz> scratch that, google's got the answer
[09:37] <blz> TJ-: thanks again, you've been extremely helpful!
[09:37] <TJ-> blz: "sudo mkswap /dev/sdb2 && sudo swapon /dev/sdb2" - use "-d" option to swapon if the device is SSD
[09:38] <blz> ah, even simpler!
[09:38] <TJ-> blz: If you want it as permanent swap from boot you'll also need an entry in "/etc/fstab"
[09:38] <hadifarnoud> TJ-:I updated it https://gist.github.com/hadifarnoud/bb3d831735c8e074fe75 it now works but sed put everything in one line. how can I fix this?
[09:38] <blz> cool, and the -d flag is just for swapon? or also for mkswap?
[09:39] <TJ-> blz: for swapon ... see "man mkswap" and "man swapon" for details
[09:39] <blz> got it, thanks!
[09:41] <TJ-> blz: ubuntu usually sets up the swap partition as encrypted and then uses the encrypted device-mapper device, but I'm not sure if there's a system tool to automate that process - usually its the installer that does that stuff
[09:42] <thebrush> hello may I create in ubuntu a protocol to open a client script, like http://, in my case: foo:// ?
[09:43] <thebrush> in windows It work adding an HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT in regedit
[09:43] <thebrush> *works
[09:47] <mcparty> Good morning/afternoon, Has anyone had an issue with rsyslog not reporting the hostname of the reporting device?
[09:49] <mon23c_> /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER mon23c zwtpgepqzwmh
[09:49] <mon23c_> /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER mon23c zwtpgepqzwmh
[09:51] <mcparty> A tcpdukm shows the hostname of the device reporting the rsyslog entry but rsyslog message logged just contains the IP
[09:51] <hadifarnoud> can someone help find out why sed does not add new lines here? https://gist.github.com/hadifarnoud/bb3d831735c8e074fe75
[09:52] <TJ-> mcparty: does rsyslogd do a hostname lookup? if so, if that fails it'd just use the IP
[09:53] <mcparty> Yes it does and the hostname pings ok too.
[09:55] <mcparty> @TJ I have other devices which reports the hostnames fine. I have even added the host to the /etc/hosts to ensure there is no issue with the lookup
[09:55] <TJ-> mcparty: some issue with the rsyslogd rule - maybe using a custom formatter and inserting IP not hostname?
[09:57] <TJ-> mcparty: It should use "%HOSTNAME%"
[10:00] <mcparty> @TJ The only rule I have is ":fromhost-ip, startswith, 10.*.*.*" to put some hosts in unique logfiles. Could this be the cause because it's looking for the ip, not the hostname?
[10:03] <Freshly> Hi all. I've installed ubuntu 14.02 here on a new PC. When I try to login (using the default unity / gnome gui) I get immediately logged out again (after entering the password)
[10:03] <Freshly> when I check syslog, I see the following messages:
[10:03] <TJ-> mcparty: I'm not sure... I like your logic but I'm not convinced it'd affect the template operation
[10:03] <Freshly> gnome-session: WARNING: software accelaration check fialed: Child process existed with code 1
[10:04] <Freshly> gnome-session: CRITICAL: We failed, but the fail whale is dead. Sorry...
[10:04] <Freshly> I've w8 running in parallell, which works without any problems
[10:04] <Freshly> any idea what could be wrong?
[10:04] <MonkeyDust> Freshly for a start: it's 14.04.2
[10:05] <hadifarnoud> my sed script works but It adds listen 80; at the end. how can I have it at the beginning and add a new line then the replacement string?
[10:05] <hadifarnoud> my script https://gist.github.com/hadifarnoud/bb3d831735c8e074fe75
[10:05] <Freshly> s/14.02/14.04.2/
[10:06] <MonkeyDust> hadifarnoud better ask in #bash
[10:07] <hadifarnoud> MonkeyDust:I will. it's a sed question though
[10:07] <mcparty> @TJ I will look a little further and see if i can mod the rules to look for hostname and retest. Thanks for your help.
[10:10] <isleif> Hi, I need some help with smb:// to connect on a windows share (ethernet), since a week i can't find other computer in the workgroup (And sorry for my english). Can somebody help? thanks
[10:15] <MonkeyDust> isleif i had that too, with my NAS, there's a solution, moment...
[10:16] <isleif> :s
[10:19] <MonkeyDust> isleif this saved my day : http://paste.ubuntu.com/11798247/
[10:21] <MonkeyDust> isleif no, on second view, it's dofferent from your issue
[10:21] <MonkeyDust> different*
[10:23] <isleif> arg :/
[10:25] <MonkeyDust> isleif does 'gigolo' find the share?
[10:25] <isleif> Trying
[10:26] <john__> hello
[10:29] <isleif> Nope, it faile
[10:29] <isleif> Nope, it failed*
[10:29] <isleif> Same error message
[10:33] <hero100> hi, I want to know which way is more fast: mount a samba server and cp file or scp ?
[10:39] <MonkeyDust> hero100 iirc, scp is used for ssh connections, not for samba
[10:40] <hero100> MonkeyDust, the server is ubuntu, it supports samba and ssh
[10:40] <TJ-> hero100: rsync/scp+ssh is my preference... I find samba/Windows networking in general can become a nightmare
[10:40] <cfhowlett> hero100, also #ubuntu-server might know more
[10:41] <TJ-> hero100: If want to mount a remote file-system then NFS or even sshfs
[10:41] <MrSNES> I have a install of Xubuntu running as a headless server. I can easily plug a screen in and type in "sudo serivce lightdm start" to get a GUI, however I would like to VNC to the computer. I can start the gui over ssh but can't VNC until I login to my main useraccount at the system. Is there a way to remotely start xfce and be able to vnc to it?
[10:43] <TJ-> MrSNES: use X forwarding over ssh might be what you want
[10:44] <hero100> The server is out of my control. It seems the bottleneck is my usb2.0 hard disk.
[10:44] <adsc> hero100: if by fast, you mean copy speed, then samba server is probably a bit faster
[10:44] <adsc> because scp has the ssh encryption overhead
[10:45] <adsc> but it will probably be limited by disk I/O anyway, so it shouldnt really matter
[10:45] <hero100> 100% 8160MB 36.3MB/s this is by rcp == scp
[10:47] <adsc> is this over internet or LAN?
[10:47] <hero100> over LAN
[10:48] <adsc> cable or WLAN? if it's cable, you can see that it's clearly disk limited
[10:48] <hero100> My computer doesn
[10:48] <hero100> doesn't s have usb3.0 port
[10:49] <adsc> anyway, 36MB/s isn't bad for write speed
[10:50] <MrSNES> TJ: Thanks, I googled X forwarding on Windows and found Putty + Xming.
[10:57] <hero100> It's seems cp from samba server is about 2M/s faster than scp.
[10:58] <MonkeyDust> hero100 yes, but the s means secure
[11:12] <wligtenberg> Has anybody here got experience to get the Lenovo LT1421 USB monitor to work on Ubuntu 14.04?
[11:16] <TJ-> wligtenberg: Is this a DisplayPort question? You're the 2nd person today asking about such a device
[11:16] <wligtenberg> TJ- Maybe to other person was my boss :)
[11:16] <wligtenberg> It is recognised as displayport yes
[11:17] <TJ-> wligtenberg: If Linux is recognising it you're doing OK ... 'lusb' lists it as a DisplayPort device?
[11:17] <TJ-> wligtenberg: oops, that's "lsusb"
[11:18] <wligtenberg> yes, it shows the device, but nothing is happing
[11:19] <TJ-> wligtenberg: Is the kernel's UDL driver loaded? "lsmod | grep udl"
[11:20] <wligtenberg> udl 24545 2
[11:20] <wligtenberg> seems loaded
[11:21] <TJ-> wligtenberg: That's good... how are you trying to active it? Have you checked the Xorg.0.log to see if it is recognised?
[11:21] <wligtenberg> TJ- It shows up in dmesg
[11:21] <wligtenberg> I am trying to use xrandr to somehow make it work
[11:22] <TJ-> wligtenberg: does xrandr 'see' the device ?
[11:22] <wligtenberg> But apparently I now have tied the normal monitor to itself using: xrandr --setprovideroutputsource 1 0
[11:22] <r0ute> wligtenberg: It might be worth trying arandr, it's a bit easier to work with initially
[11:23] <wligtenberg> never heard of arandr :)
[11:25] <wligtenberg> TJ- This was my initial result: http://pastebin.com/a3a0j7Km
[11:25] <r0ute> wligtenberg: It's just a GUI for xrandr so it's useful if you're not too familiar with the xrandr options.
[11:27] <TJ-> wligtenberg: Can you pastebin "/var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[11:29] <Kayla_> do you guys work with source lists?
[11:30] <Kayla_> hello..
[11:32] <baizon> !ask | baizon
[11:32] <wligtenberg> TJ- here is the xorg log http://pastebin.com/S8UMKvSx
[11:33] <TJ-> Kayla_: Is that an Ubuntu support question?
[11:34] <bazhang> what version of debian Kayla_
[11:35] <Kayla_> 8.1
[11:36] <bazhang> Kayla_, this is ubuntu support ONLY
[11:36] <bazhang> Kayla_, #debian for that
[11:36] <wligtenberg> TJ- The display configuration application now shows the 14.1 inch screen, but it seems to be mapped not my normal screen, the labels for identification appear only on my laptop screen
[11:36] <histo> bazhang: how did you know Kayla_ was debian?
[11:36] <bazhang> esp
[11:36] <Kayla_> source list?
[11:37] <TJ-> wligtenberg: Well, that looks like the DP device is being detected OK, and its getting the EDID from the monitor "1366x768"
[11:37] <bazhang> Kayla_, dont ask here for debian support
[11:37] <wligtenberg> TJ- Also the resolution is correctly detected
[11:37] <wligtenberg> I probably messed up the xrandr thing...
[11:37] <TJ-> wligtenberg: has it placed it to the side... have you tried moving your mouse to it by pushing the mouse off all the sides of the primary display?
[11:37] <wligtenberg> Is there an easy way to reset that?
[11:38] <bazhang> Kayla_, ##linux for general support, #debian for debian
[11:38] <TJ-> wligtenberg: Maybe log-out and log-in again so Xorg sorts things out?
[11:38] <wligtenberg> ok, will try log out log in
[11:38] <melon> Hello!
[11:38] <wligtenberg> mmm, I cannot log out...
[11:38] <TJ-> wligtenberg: :D
[11:39] <TJ-> wligtenberg: Ctrl+Alt+F1 then "sudo service lightdm restart"
[11:39] <melon> I'm looking to get a definitive answer to this question. I've been looking around on ubuntu forums etc. and can't seem to find something definitive. Does the new MX4 Ubuntu edition support wifi tethring, and if not, is that a planned feature?
[11:40] <wligtenberg> TJ- that was interesting the terminal showed up on the usb screen
[11:41] <wligtenberg> However now after logging in, it does not show up in the displays configuration
[11:41] <wligtenberg> So it works, but now I need to make it work in the graphical environment as well
[11:41] <wligtenberg> I can still easily switch to tty1 and get it on th eusb screen
[11:42] <yvonne> moin
[11:44] <boncip> is there any Fn key onboar virtual keyboard?
[11:44] <boncip> actually i wan to Fn + F9
[11:44] <boncip> mine lenovo
[11:46] <CostttaaaP> http://kepfeltoltes.hu/view/150630/K_perny_k_p___8211__2015-06-30_13_16_16_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.png in this picture what is the problem ?
[11:51] <TJ-> wligtenberg: I think that may be because the UDL framebuffer driver is loaded
[11:52] <wligtenberg> TJ- ok, so I would have to blacklist that one
[11:53] <wligtenberg> is that correct?
[11:53] <wligtenberg> can I unload the driver without rebooting to test that?
[11:54] <histo> wligtenberg: rmmod
[11:54] <TJ-> wligtenberg: No, that wasn't what I meant!
[11:54] <wligtenberg> TJ- ok :)
[11:54] <wligtenberg> TJ- I didn't do anything yet :)
[11:56] <TJ-> wligtenberg: I meant the reason you're seeing the console on the DP is because the FB is loaded and seems to have chosen it as the default output device. You may need the FB for Xorg
[11:58] <wligtenberg> TJ- I don't quite get that I am afraid
[11:59] <TJ-> wligtenberg: "...the terminal showed up on the usb screen..." - I was referring to why that happened. It seems the console decided the UDL FB was the default display device.
[12:00] <wligtenberg> TJ- yes, so that means that at least it is working and correctly identified
[12:00] <wligtenberg> TJ- So now figuring out how to get it recognised in the graphical environment
[12:01] <Isotopp> What is the documented official ppa for php for ubuntu? I found https://launchpad.net/~ondrej/+archive/ubuntu/php5 and it looks good, but is this the official package source?
[12:01] <pragomer> would somebody help me creating a (simple) udev-rule?
[12:01] <bazhang> Isotopp, PPA and official are not the same
[12:02] <TJ-> wligtenberg: Yes :) ... we know Xorg has found it, so I wonder if it's an issue with the Nvidia driver not providing the correct Source? Have you tested against the nouveau driver?
[12:02] <bazhang> Isotopp, official is what is in the regular ubuntu repos, not the PPA
[12:02] <wligtenberg> TJ- Nope, I haven't tried that yet
[12:02] <wligtenberg> But I think I now see it in xrandr
[12:02] <Isotopp> bazhang: i am searching for somebody who is part of the php project and builds php as a ppa that is newer than what is in 14.04
[12:03] <wligtenberg> DP-5 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
[12:03] <wligtenberg> 1368x768_59.90 (0x2e6) 85.7MHz
[12:03] <wligtenberg> h: width 1368 start 1440 end 1584 total 1800 skew 0 clock 47.6KHz
[12:03] <wligtenberg> v: height 768 start 769 end 772 total 795 clock 59.9Hz
[12:03] <TJ-> wligtenberg: make sure you know how you trigger it into 'finding' it in case it goes away again :)
[12:03] <bazhang> Isotopp, contact the PPA maintainer and ask them for support
[12:03] <MonkeyDust> wligtenberg use a pastebin for multiple lines
[12:03] <TJ-> wligtenberg: OK, so you just need to force it to be "connected"
[12:03] <wligtenberg> TJ- And how do I do that?
[12:03] <tiblock> Isotopp, if you want latest version, you can compile from sources, its not hard
[12:04] <TJ-> wligtenberg: "xrandr --force on <output>" ... I think
[12:04] <wligtenberg> MonkeyDust: sorry forgot this time, as you can see from earlier pastes
[12:05] <TJ-> wligtenberg: scratch that, that isn't an xrandr option!
[12:06] <mastahh> Does anyone know the next LTS version and release date for Ubuntu Server?
[12:06] <TJ-> wligtenberg: here's a tool that does what you want: https://github.com/geyslan/xrasengan
[12:06] <bazhang> april 2016 MasterOfDisaster
[12:06] <bazhang> mastahh, ^^
[12:06] <bazhang> sorry MasterOfDisaster
[12:08] <tankerkiller125> Ok so I have a major issue. I recently updated to 14.10 from a fresh install of 14.04. Now on boot it gets stuck at a flashing underscore. It has been doing this for the past 8-9 hours (I was sleeping) how do I fix this? I do have tty access
[12:08] <Isotopp> tiblock: i can compile from source no problem. i'd rather not, and what i am looking for is a documented relationship between the project, the php ppa maintainer and ubuntu for the security documentation i am supposed to maintain
[12:09] <mastahh> bazhang Will that be version 16.04 do you think?
[12:09] <bazhang> mastahh, thats the next LTS, yes
[12:09] <MonkeyDust> !nomodeset | tankerkiller125 start here
[12:09] <mastahh> Thank you very much bazhang :)
[12:09] <xar> Steve_Jobs, JOBS !!
[12:10] <bazhang> xar, stay on topic here
[12:10] <xar> but, Steve_Jobs rocks !
[12:10] <tankerkiller125> MonkeyDust: Thats the first thing I did when I first noticed the issue.. I'll try it again though
[12:10] <xar> @ bazhang
[12:10] <bazhang> !ot | xar
[12:11] <ayush> just today i made a switch from mint to the elementary os.
[12:11] <bazhang> #elementary for support ayush
[12:11] <ayush> it is quite good, and light, but i am still getting used to it.
[12:12] <MonkeyDust> ayush type /j #elementary
[12:12] <tankerkiller125> MonkeyDust: nomodeset got me into the desktop but now my graphics are way off... Almost as if the graphics drivers arn't installed
[12:12] <ayush> got it.
[12:13] <wligtenberg> TJ- rebooting to ensure that nouveau is loaded
[12:13] <MonkeyDust> tankerkiller125 ctrl-alt-F1 and troubleshoot from there
[12:15] <tankerkiller125> MonkeyDust: I found out why... When the upgrader said that there were obsolete packages it could remove it removed some of the graphics drivers for some reason.
[12:15] <MonkeyDust> tankerkiller125 proble solved?
[12:16] <MonkeyDust> problem*
[12:16] <tankerkiller125> MonkeyDust: Going to do a reboot and find out for sure.
[12:16] <tankerkiller125> not used to these kinda problems. I normally use Ubuntu server (for a server OS of course)
[12:16] <tankerkiller125> MonkeyDust: Problem solved
[12:18] <MonkeyDust> tankerkiller125 great. breaking and fixing things is the best way to learn
[12:19] <tankerkiller125> MonkeyDust: Indeed I've learned that on servers. I really never had to deal with grapics issues on them though :P
[12:19] <wligtenberg> TJ- More luck I now see it in displays and xrandr as DVI, and I can turn it on. Which will show some activity but it seems to be only some artifacts
[12:21] <TJ-> wligtenberg: Slow progress :)
[12:22] <wligtenberg> TJ- But progress! :) (Yes, I have been around linux long enough to remember that almost everything was this hard :) )
[12:31] <wligtenberg> TJ- I got it working! With the help of this repo: https://github.com/thecaffiend/tvlt1421_ubuntu/blob/master/thinkvision.bash
[12:32] <wligtenberg> I just needed to fix the other screen that it should be next to
[12:33] <TJ-> wligtenberg: was adding a new mode the essence of what you did?
[12:34] <wligtenberg> probably
[12:34] <TJ-> wligtenberg: I can't see anything else there that would make a significant different over what you should have already had
[12:35] <TJ-> wligtenberg: I wonder if that will work with the nvidia driver too. It may need a more recent nvidia version, depending on which version was in use earlier
[12:36] <wligtenberg> TJ- I had the latest from the ubuntu repo
[12:36] <wligtenberg> TJ- I also think it was the mode, because that would also explain why I saw something, but that the image was bad
[12:38] <wligtenberg> TJ- With the nvidia driver I had the DVI output never showed up...
[12:38] <wligtenberg> So I guess I will just have to switch between them if I need to use these displays
[12:40] <TJ-> wligtenberg: the (more recent) nvidia drivers are supposed to support DP well
[12:52] <Soelen> hello everyone, I just installed ubuntu via usbstick and when it tried to restart my system told me there is no bootable device, what do I do?
[12:53] <ioria> you changed the bios boot order ?
[12:54] <Trudko> Guys does software updated have some log? It freezed and I would like to know why if possible
[12:55] <pkull> Hey!
[12:55] <ioria> /var/log/apt/history.log
[12:55] <Soelen> ioria: oh, you were talking to me?
[12:55] <ioria> yep
[12:56] <Soelen> sorry, let me check (let's see if I can)
[12:58] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:00] <Soelen> ioria: that history.log it pretty big for a txt file, 80kb, pastebin seems to deny to upload it. what exactly do I need to check?
[13:00] <ioria> Solen that's was Trudko :-).... you should check the bios boot order
[13:01] <pkull> I can access my website when I go to http://IPADDRESS, but not when I go to the human readable URL (some kind of DNS error, I suppose). /var/log/nginx/access.log http://pastebin.com/B681rZy8 shows requests made to both IP address and readable address. How should I debug HTTP requests to pinpoint the problem? Or my be someone can pinpoint the problem by looking at the bin?
[13:01] <Soelen> ioria: how do I do so?
[13:02] <ioria> Solen the pc can boot from cd, hd, or usb... maybe yours is stuck to usb, and not hd
[13:03] <pbx> pkull, you need to confirm your DNS records are set up right, and that your web server is configured to respond to that name
[13:03] <ikonia> pkull: test your dns
[13:03] <Soelen> ioria: ah, so I need to check in the bios that
[13:03] <pbx> pkull, the latter is most likely the cause. clearly the domain is resolving to your IP (or your server wouldn't be logging that request)
[13:03] <ioria> Soelen yes
[13:04] <Soelen> ioria: first boot prioity is hdd
[13:04] <Soelen> so I guess that is correct
[13:04] <ioria> Soelen and you got no bootable device ?
[13:05] <Soelen> ioria: when I try to restart normally it says so
[13:05] <kubanc> hello, I have changed my vino-server port in dconf-editor but the actual port is still the same as it was before. Do I need to go and change it somewhere else?
[13:05] <pkull> pbx: how to see that "web server is configured to respond to that name"? I am using nginx/gunicorn
[13:05] <ioria> Soelen dual boot with win ?
[13:06] <Soelen> ioria: nope, I chose clear disk and install ubuntu on complete disk
[13:07] <ioria> Soelen so, it's a grub problem maybe ...
[13:07] <ioria> Soelen did you choose automatic installation ?
[13:08] <Soelen> ioria: I did
[13:08] <ioria> Soelen you cannot boot in any ways ?
[13:08] <Soelen> yup
[13:09] <ioria> Soelen try to reinstall grub from live cd
[13:10] <Soelen> ioria: oki, will try
[13:11] <ioria> Soelen are you on an efi system ?
[13:13] <Soelen> ioria: uefi yeah
[13:13] <Soelen> with secure boot and whatnot
[13:14] <ioria> Soelen don't know much about that
[13:14] <Soelen> ioria: me too : P
[13:15] <ioria> Soelen but there is a guide : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[13:16] <ioria> Soelen well, try to disable fast boot and secure boot for now
[13:16] <MrSNES> trying to do X forwarding from my Windows computer to my Xubuntu server. I have x11 forwarding enabled in sshd, and x11 forwarding enabled in Putty. I am running the Xming server on my windows system but every time I try to run a gui program in putty I get GLib-CRITICAL **: g_slice_set_config: assertion 'sys_page_size == 0' failed Error: no display specified
[13:18] <Soelen> ioria: thanks a lot ioria, will check it out! : )
[13:18] <ioria> Soelen ok ^_^
[13:24] <Pinkamena_D> Hello guys, I could use some help. I installed a WWAN device for future use, and in network manager I started to add a mobile broadband connection but I did not commplete the process successfully. I gave up on that. The real issue is now, a day later after restarting the computer, the network-manager icon no longer loads.
[13:25] <Pinkamena_D> running nm-applet gives two errors: "Could not initialize NMClient" and "Error connecting to ModemManager"
[13:25] <Pinkamena_D> I have tried purgeing and reinstalling the packages
[13:26] <Pinkamena_D> I can manually start modemmanager which seems to fix the second error but the first error still seems to be keeping the manager from loading
[13:27] <joshua__> what exactly is it? i think its a vpn?
[13:28] <Pinkamena_D> Me?
[13:28] <Pinkamena_D> I have googled the error around but no fixes yet
[13:28] <joshua__> yea can you explain? is it a network manager
[13:29] <Pinkamena_D> when I run 'nm-applet' (ubuntu's built in network manager) That is the error I get from it
[13:30] <Exagone313> Hello, I want to generate a self signed certificate for multiple wildcards domain for TLS 1.2 with the cipher TLS_ECDHE_ECDSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256, and then use it with apache2. What openssl command(s) can I use? Thanks for help.
[13:31] <joshua__> Pinkamena_D what distro are you using
[13:31] <Pinkamena_D> 14.04
[13:31] <Pinkamena_D> 64 bit
[13:34] <joshua__> put this code in a file called test.py, execute +x test.py ./test.py
[13:34] <joshua__> #!/usr/bin/env python
[13:34] <joshua__> import pygtk
[13:34] <joshua__> import gtk
[13:34] <joshua__> i = gtk.StatusIcon()
[13:34] <joshua__> i.set_from_stock(gtk.STOCK_INFO)
[13:35] <Pinkamena_D> can you place code in a pastebin of sort sort in the future? Just a friendly tip
[13:35] <joshua__> yes
[13:35] <sublimate> Anyone here familiar with btrfs?
[13:36] <Pinkamena_D> I get no output
[13:36] <sublimate> I'm trying to make a btrfs volume but alas I'm being told that it can't check if it's mounted :p
[13:36] <Pinkamena_D> no errors, etc.
[13:36] <joshua__> did it fix your issue or no
[13:36] <sublimate> joshua__, You realize your code got cut off?
[13:37] <sublimate> By the bot auto-quieting you
[13:37] <joshua__> o
[13:37] <joshua__> http://pastebin.com/CEyg6yQf
[13:37] <joshua__> did that work
[13:38] <Pinkamena_D> Ok so with this program I get nothing, It is waiting like it is running but no window or other message comes up
[13:38] <Pinkamena_D> and no the other error is still there
[13:39] <joshua__> now try running the program normaly and see what happens
[13:43] <TheC4mel> Anyone know what could possibly be wrong with my pulseaudio sink? Turn up or down the volume with pulseaudio sink on my computer, the little volume notification sound it gives me sounds like its popping/ distorted.
[13:43] <MrSNES> I followed the guides.. install xming, unblock it from my firewall, enable x11forwarding in sshd_config on server. then click forward x11 in putty.. reconnect to my server.. make sure xorg and xauth is installed.. try running a gui program like firefox.. but all I get is Error: no display specified.
[13:51] <arcsky> hello im trying to install ubuntu server from USB. it does work to boot up but after keyboard settings it search for "detec and mount CD-ROM" .. why that when if ddo this from USB ?
[13:56] <TomyWork> !backport
[13:57] <TomyWork> ok, suppose there is nothing in ubuntu-backports, how do i build one? wasnt there a factoid about this?
[13:59] <popey> arcsky: because if you copy a cd image to usb stick, it's still technically a cd image.
[14:02] <arcsky> popey: how can i solve this?
[14:02] <popey> arcsky: solve what? It's looking inside the USB key for the CD image, which will be there. It's not broken.
[14:02] <popey> arcsky: Unless there's some other issue you have with it?
[14:03] <arcsky> nope
[14:06] <jsnowball> how do you deal with an exploited box? what are the first step in cleaning it up?
[14:07] <k1l> jsnowball: reinstall.
[14:07] <mtn> jsnowball, reformat and reinstall with data from your known good backups
[14:07] <k1l> you cant know what is wrong and what is still ok.
[14:08] <jsnowball> mmm yeah. what i though... arf
[14:08] <wenisch> Hi i am facing this issue when compiling my C code on my ubuntu machine can someone please help "/opt/sparc-elf-4.4.2/bin/../libexec/gcc/sparc-elf/4.4.2/cc1: error while loading shared libraries: libmpfr.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[14:11] <wenisch> i heard the latest version of ubuntu does not support libmpfr.so.1...what do i do?
[14:12] <TomyWork> jsnowball it's worse if your hardware is compromised :)
[14:12] <TomyWork> reflashed mainboard bios, device bios, usb drive controllers
[14:13] <TomyWork> wenisch sparc?
[14:13] <jsnowball> sounds like some nsa story... anyway it's a vps so i guess i shouldn't worry
[14:13] <OerHeks> !info libmpfr
[14:14] <OerHeks> !info libmpfr
[14:14] <wenisch> libmpfr.so.1 is required for the sparc compiler...libmpfr.so.4 is available
[14:14] <OerHeks> wenisch, yes it does libmpfr-dev, libmpfr-doc, libmpfr4, libmpfr4-dbg, libmpfrc++-dev
[14:15] <OerHeks> wenisch, my best guess: libmpfr-dev
[14:16] <wenisch> i have libmpfr-dev installed but i get the previously mentioned error when i try to compile from terminal
[14:17] <OerHeks> wenisch, install libmpfrc++-dev too?
[14:17] <MrSNES> ya I always reformat and start over on my server every other year because I don't know enough about Linux yet to tell if my system has been exploited. I try to add a little more security on each incarnation of my server. ^I will defiantly do a reflash of my bios and hard drive firmware this up coming wipe.
[14:17] <Guest8948> hello ??
[14:18] <wenisch> OerHeks, i have installed that also but i guess somehow my compiler is not able to locate them
[14:19] <wenisch> it says its a shared library error
[14:21] <Rubas> Hi all, I have a local repository, and I have a package in this local repository, and I was wondering how I would be able to put in a new version of the package into my local repository?
[14:22] <OerHeks> wenisch, what are you building, and what instructions?
[14:22] <weihhh> da
[14:22] <teward> Rubas: what's the software behind the repository? reprepro? or a PPA?
[14:23] <Rubas> teward: I am using reprepro
[14:23] <wenisch> its a hello world program for a sparc processor...I installed the sparc compiler in my machine first then tried building the code but i get this error
[14:23] <teward> Rubas: the same 'add to the repository' command should work - the system should see the newer package on systems accessing the repository from my small scale tests and update
[14:24] <arcsky> wierd none seens this problem
[14:24] <Rubas> teward: so I should just change the version number in the .deb file, and it should be able to figure it out itself?
[14:24] <teward> Rubas: you need to rebuild the package then use the same command to add the version to reprepro, but it should
[14:25] <teward> and i mean *rebuild* not just change the version number and hope all is well, as that pacakge needs built for that versoin :P
[14:26] <Rubas> teward: what do you mean by built for that version? :P Doesn't it just overwrite the previous versions content?
[14:27] <MrSNES> I wish they would add a jumpers to motherboards and hard drives so you could physically disable the firmware/biso reflash option. Would stop your hardware from getting screwed over if the system is hacked. But allow you to pull the jumper and boot into a "safe" environment to do firmware updates.
[14:27] <wenisch> TomyWork, yes sparc- for a Leon core processor...but am compiling in my local machine
[14:27] <Rubas> teward: sorry this is pretty new for me :) But I have multiple servers, that are using a package I made myself, and instead of manually doing installing it, I would like to have a repository which has the package, and this package will be able to be installed on all the servers I have.
[14:29] <tailgate> Hi, I'm trying to set up a dual monitors(VGA) on Ubuntu 12.04 with a Lenovo W540 with nvidia drivers. I am having trouble, however getting xrandr to see the VGA monitor.
[14:30] <tailgate> my xorg logs havn't given me a lot of information on what's wrong, so I was looking for help diagnosing my issue.
[14:31] <laksdjfsalkj> How cum that window better then Ubentu?
[14:31] <teward> Rubas: did you build the source package for inclusion into the repository?
[14:31] <teward> Rubas: with each new package you have to debuild or pbuilder or sbuild the package so you get .deb binaries
[14:31] <teward> Rubas: you then have to add that to the repository server (reprepro) with the commands that it has to do it (I don't remember them offhand)
[14:34] <Rubas> teward: I used the following command to create a deb file: dpkg --build
[14:34] <Rubas> teward: dpkg --build mysource/
[14:35] <teward> Rubas: that works too, i use sbuild but same thing. You then use the commands you used to add the first package to reprepro to add the new package too, it'll put the newer version up there and update the available packages list and such
[14:36] <Rubas> teward: okay, that's cool, but by installing a newer package (by changing the version number and files in it), it will overwrite the current versions files right?
[14:36] <Rubas> teward: thank you very much for helping me out with my stupid questions :)
[14:37] <teward> Rubas: that i can't comment on
[14:37] <teward> i'm not as familiar with that
[14:39] <Rubas> teward: thank you! I'll test it, and see how it acts :D
[14:39] <mateusz_> gg
[14:39] <mateusz_> g
[14:46] <AceKing> I have 15.04 installed on my PC. Everything was running fine until I rebooted. Now after I put in my login info, the screen goes black, and all I see is my mouse pointer. I tried going into recovery mode, and enabeling networking, but when I click on it I get an error getting autority message. Any idea how to fix any of this?
[14:47] <EriC^^> AceKing: does the guest account work?
[14:47] <AceKing> EriC^^: It's not showing. I also tried failsafe, but that just loops back to the login
[14:48] <EriC^^> AceKing: ok where are you now?
[14:48] <AceKing> EriC^^: On my laptop
[14:48] <EriC^^> ok try to get to tty1
[14:49] <EriC^^> (press ctrl+alt+f1)
[14:50] <AceKing> EriC^^: I'm at the login screen, and tried that. Nothing came up
[14:50] <AceKing> EriC^^: Sorry, did you want me to try it from the black screen, after I login?
[14:51] <EriC^^> AceKing: ok sure
[14:51] <EriC^^> wait no
[14:51] <EriC^^> try recovery mode then enable networking then drop to root shell
[14:52] <AceKing> EriC^^: That's what I was saying. It will not allow me to enable networking in recovery
[14:52] <EriC^^> ok do you have a live usb?
[14:53] <AceKing> EriC^^: yes
[14:53] <EriC^^> ok, boot it
[14:53] <AceKing> ok
[14:55] <AceKing> EriC^^: OK, I have LiveCD up
[14:55] <EriC^^> AceKing: ok, type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[14:56] <AceKing> EriC^^: OK, done
[14:57] <EriC^^> what's the link it gave?
[14:57] <AceKing> http://termbin.com/6q9k
[14:58] <EriC^^> AceKing: type sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt
[14:59] <AceKing> EriC^^: OK
[15:00] <EriC^^> AceKing: for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[15:00] <EriC^^> AceKing: type the whole line please
[15:02] <AceKing> EriC^^: bash: syntax error near unexptected token 'done'
[15:02] <EriC^^> AceKing: did you put the do before sudo?
[15:03] <AceKing> EriC^^: Yes, but I think I missed the space between , and do
[15:04] <AceKing> EriC^^: give me a second, I'm going to reread and make sure I have the whole thing correct
[15:06] <EriC^> AceKing: all good?
[15:06] <Johnny_Linux> he said he was going over it again to make sure
[15:06] <EriC^^> ok thanks Johnny_Linux :)
[15:06] <Johnny_Linux> yeah
[15:07] <AceKing> EriC^^: OK, I copied and pasted it to a thumb drive.. that worked
[15:07] <nejni-marji_> Are there any Ubuntu installers which would have Ubuntu Desktop but without a DE?
[15:08] <lotuspsychje> !discuss > Johnny_Linux
[15:08] <EriC^^> nejni-marji_: mini.iso or the server if you want that
[15:08] <EriC^^> !mini | nejni-marji_
[15:08] <EriC^^> AceKing: ok, type sudo chroot /mnt
[15:09] <AceKing> EriC^^: OK, done
[15:09] <nejni-marji_> EriC^^: Thanks
[15:10] <EriC^^> AceKing: ok, type ubuntu-drivers devices | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:11] <syntaxx> i am not sure what i did wrong but when i single user mode I can't see the /var/log after remounting. Any idea?
[15:13] <AceKing> EriC^^: paste.ubuntu.com/11799594
[15:14] <EriC^^> AceKing: ok, try apt-get install pastebinit
[15:14] <EriC^^> then ubuntu-drivers devices | pastebinit
[15:15] <AceKing> EriC^^: OK, installed
[15:15] <EriC^^> ok try ubuntu-drivers devices | pastebinit
[15:17] <AceKing> EriC^^: It says: You are trying to send an empty document
[15:17] <EriC^^> ok, keep the terminal open, and open another one, and type lspci -k | grep -A2 VGA | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:19] <AceKing> EriC^^: I am so sorry, I misspelled it. http://paste.ubuntu.com11799628
[15:28] <AceKing> EriC^^: Did you see my last post?
[15:29] <jmspeex> Hi, I just did an update on my 14.10 VM and I can't login anymore.
[15:29] <klemax> which one is suitable for the beginners? openstack, cloudstack or proxmox?
[15:29] <klemax> for blade server systems...
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> jmspeex: If you boot an older kernel, is it ok?
[15:30] <jmspeex> gdm (or whatever dm it is) says "failed to authenticate" before I even enter a password
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> jmspeex: 14.10 is EOL next month, I suggest you upgrade soon
[15:30] <jmspeex> ActionParsnip: No the kernel's fine. It's the login manager that doesn't work
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> jmspeex: if yuo drop to TTY1, do your partitions have free space?
[15:31] <MonkeyDust> jmspeex it's VM? than why are you worried?
[15:31] <MonkeyDust> then*
[15:31] <jmspeex> Oops, sorry it's not 14.10 but 14.04, i.e. Trusty
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> jmspeex: ahh, thats ok
[15:31] <jmspeex> MonkeyDust: Well, despite being a VM, I'd still like to not have to re-install.
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> jmspeex: do your partitions have free space?
[15:32] <jmspeex> I don't know. I'd need to login for that
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> jmspeex: log in at TTY1, not GUI
[15:32] <jmspeex> how
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> jmspeex: Press CTRL + ALT + F1
[15:32] <jmspeex> That gets interpreted by the host and not the VM
[15:33] <EriC^^> AceKing: sorry, i'm back, those are the list of recommended drivers
[15:33] <ActionParsnip> jmspeex: then you will need to work out how to send it to the guest....
[15:33] <jmspeex> Any way I just do this on boot?
[15:33] <EriC^^> AceKing: type dpkg -l | grep nvidia | pastebinit
[15:33] <AceKing> EriC^^: OK
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> jmspeex: hold shift at boot and drop to root recovery console
[15:34] <MonkeyDust> jmspeex what kind of VM is it, vbox? vmware? kvm? qemu?
[15:34] <jmspeex> kvt/qemu
[15:34] <AceKing> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11799685/
[15:35] <jmspeex> OK, holding shift doesn't seem to work :-(
[15:36] <MonkeyDust> jmspeex scrol down to ctrl ctrl ctrl alt f1 http://askubuntu.com/questions/54814/how-can-i-ctrl-alt-f-to-get-to-a-tty-in-a-qemu-session
[15:36] <faLUCE> hello I have a script which launches the "wget" command continuously after boot. I can see the wget process with "top". How can I find the file (script) that launches this command?
[15:36] <TOM54> CIAO
[15:36] <TOM54> hell
[15:37] <lotuspsychje> !it | TOM54
[15:37] <MonkeyDust> !list > TOM54
[15:37] <TOM54> hello
[15:37] <TOM54> chat very good
[15:37] <ArneLurk> Painted a desktop: http://androidarts.com/misc/ubunchie2c.jpg - that is all.
[15:37] <TOM54> any body online?
[15:38] <lotuspsychje> TOM54: this is an ubuntu support channel
[15:38] <chotaz`w> ArneLurk, is it the same from 2005? :3
[15:38] <TOM54> okay
[15:38] <TOM54> yes
[15:38] <ArneLurk> Yes.
[15:38] <lotuspsychje> TOM54: only ask ubuntu issues here please
[15:38] <TOM54> italy?
[15:38] <ArneLurk> No. I updated it.
[15:38] <chotaz`w> !it > TOM54
[15:39] <chotaz`w> !topic > TOM54
[15:39] <TOM54> okay,i am italy no inglish
[15:39] <TOM54> yes?
[15:39] <faLUCE> hello I have a script which launches the "wget" command continuously after boot. I can see the wget process with "top". How can I find the file (script) that launches this command?
[15:39] <jmspeex> MonkeyDust: Crtl-Alt-2 doesn't give me a prompt, just a black screen
[15:39] <k1l_> TOM54: #ubuntu-it is the italian channel
[15:39] <ArneLurk> chotaz`w: > I posted it on the ubuntu forums many years ago.
[15:39] <TOM54> !topic hello
[15:39] <pbx> !it| TOM54
[15:39] <jmspeex> BTW, am I the only one to see this gdm bug? It's really broken.
[15:40] <MonkeyDust> jmspeex apparentally, you have to hit two times ctrl and then ctrl-alt-f1
[15:40] <jmspeex> As soon as I select the username, I get "Failed to authenticate" and then the password field gets disabled
[15:40] <MonkeyDust> jmspeex i'm sure you mean lightdm, not gdm
[15:41] <jmspeex> well, whatever dm 14.04 uses
[15:42] <jmspeex> Oh, and I can tell I'm not out of disk space because my image is still smaller than the max size I allow
[15:42] <MonkeyDust> jmspeex gdm is different from lightdm, so which is it?
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> faLUCE: ps -ef | grep wget | awk {'print $7'}
[15:42] <jmspeex> MonkeyDust: how do I tell?
[15:43] <jmspeex> Ah, actually, it's the XUbuntu default in case it's different
[15:43] <MonkeyDust> jmspeex what are you douing and what are you trying ro achieve?
[15:43] <MonkeyDust> typos*
[15:44] <jmspeex> MonkeyDust: I'm booting a VM I installed a while ago (and has always worked). I'm just trying to login
[15:44] <jmspeex> The dm won't let me in
[15:44] <faLUCE> ActionParsnip: without awk I obtain that "pi 3371 3143 0 15:44 pts/1 00:00:00 grep --color=auto wget" <---- 3143 is always the same: is it the parent pid?
[15:45] <MonkeyDust> jmspeex what happens when you try?
[15:45] <jmspeex> As I said, I'm getting the red "Failed to authenticate" before I even get a chance to enter a password
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> faLUCE: yes that is the parent pid
[15:47] <OerHeks> faLUCE, if you know the PID, you can look up /proc/<PID>/cmdline >> http://askubuntu.com/a/318305
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> OerHeks: Oooh I like that :)
[15:48] <OerHeks> :-)
[15:49] <jmspeex> I did an "apt-get upgrade" yesterday, so I assume that's what caused it
[15:50] <faLUCE> OerHeks: your command gives me "bash"
[15:50] <OerHeks> faLUCE, why don't you know what script you added @ boot?
[15:51] <faLUCE> OerHeks: becaus I forgot the name
[15:51] <faLUCE> and the location
[15:51] <OerHeks> location, cwd should say something?
[15:53] <faLUCE> OerHeks: ?
[15:54] <jmspeex> OK, managed to get a VT
[15:54] <jmspeex> I did another update and it didn't help
[15:54] <lotuspsychje> faLUCE: to find your script, in terminal type 'whereis' command
[15:54] <jmspeex> Also, the disk is far from full
[15:54] <TOM54> please you enter #UYBUNTU-IT2 /join #ubuntu-it2
[15:54] <faLUCE> lotuspsychje: found it, thanks anyway
[16:04] <TOM54> printer www.helpnetxchat.com
[16:05] <AceKing> I guess EriC^^ isn't coming back. He was right in the middle of helping me
[16:07] <lotuspsychje> AceKing: describe whats the last thing yout ryed
[16:07] <lotuspsychje> tryed
[16:08] <AlceKing> lotuspsychje: He had me run a command to see what drivers were available http://paste.ubuntu.com/11799685/
[16:08] <lotuspsychje> AceKing: is your card an optimus card?
[16:08] <AceKing> lotuspsychje: No
[16:09] <lotuspsychje> AceKing: wich card please?
[16:09] <MonkeyDust> AceKing try dpkg -l | grep nvidia | grep ii
[16:11] <AceKing> lotuspsychje: I am unsure of the exact card. How do I figure that out?
[16:11] <lotuspsychje> AceKing: sudo lshw -C video
[16:11] <tomTOMTOMTOMTOM_> ciao
[16:11] <AceKing> MonkeyDust: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11799852
[16:12] <lotuspsychje> !it | tomTOMTOMTOMTOM_
[16:12] <tomTOMTOMTOMTOM_> ciao,sono tom54,perchè mi avete bannato?=
[16:12] <AceKing> lotuspsychje: GeForce GT 630 Rev. 2
[16:12] <MonkeyDust> tomTOMTOMTOMTOM_ type /j #ubuntu-it
[16:13] <AceKing> lotuspsychje: Do you want me to post the whole output in paste.ubuntu?
[16:13] <lotuspsychje> AceKing: no, its ok mate
[16:14] <Ranieri_> Hey guys. What exactly is a repository key?
[16:16] <OerHeks> Ranieri_, encryption-key
[16:17] <Ranieri_> OerHeks: I see.
[16:22] <lotuspsychje> AceKing: wich ubuntu version did you have?
[16:22] <AceKing> lotuspsychje: 15.04 64 bit
[16:27] <tomTOMTOMTOMTOM_> utg
[16:29] <lotuspsychje> AceKing: did you have same issues on 14.04?
[16:29] <AceKing> lotuspsychje: No
[16:30] <tomTOMTOMTOMTOM_> drone,sai come si scarica minecraft da un sito sicuro?
[16:30] <tomTOMTOMTOMTOM_> se si,perfavore manadamelo
[16:30] <AceKing> lotuspsychje: Also, in recovery, I can't enable networking. It gives me an error message. So I had to boot into livcd
[16:30] <AceKing> liveCD
[16:30] <lotuspsychje> !ops | italian trolling
[16:30] <OerHeks> tomTOMTOMTOMTOM_, you have been told, this channel is English only, join #ubuntu-it for italian, thanks.
[16:31] <lotuspsychje> !ops | tomTOMTOMTOMTOM_
[16:31] <lotuspsychje> AceKing: maybe you should test a 14.04 LTS, where things get more stable?
[16:32] <tonyyarusso> lotuspsychje: What makes that trolling?
[16:32] <tonyyarusso> !it | tomTOMTOMTOMTOM_
[16:32] <AceKing> lotuspsychje: Before I strip the PC back down... Is there a way to go back to the default video driver from LiveCD?
[16:32] <lotuspsychje> tonyyarusso: he's been here on other nick TOM spamming italian stuff before, see above
[16:33] <MonkeyDust> tonyyarusso s/he's already been banned, now came back
[16:33] <tonyyarusso> lotuspsychje: Then that's spam, not trolling.
[16:34] <lotuspsychje> AceKing: well i suggest installing ubuntu with internet enabled + updates enabled
[16:34] <AceKing> lotuspsychje: I already had it installed, all updated and running for a week.
[16:34] <AceKing> lotuspsychje: Unsure what caused the black screen
[16:36] <k1l_> tomTOMTOMTOMTOM_: use #ubuntu-it for italian.this channel is english only.
[16:36] <lotuspsychje> AceKing: did you try a nomodeset?
[16:36] <AceKing> lotuspsychje: Yes, that was actually the first thing I tried
[16:37] <AceKing> lotuspsychje: Also tried booting into failsafe mode, but it just loops back to the login screen
[16:37] <aktx> i havent rebooted my ubuntu server mate in a while
[16:37] <aktx> and now i get a kernel panic
[16:37] <aktx> what should i do
[16:37] <coredump> Does anyone know what kernel version has the leap second fixes? 3.2.0-????
[16:37] <aktx> i managed to load the server livecd, but i cannot run fsck because command is not found
[16:37] <k1l_> aktx: try a different kernel in grub
[16:37] <jhutchins> aktx: At what point do you get the panic?
[16:38] <aktx> k1l_, okay
[16:38] <AceKing> lotuspsychje: Thanks for helping. I'm just going to reinstall
[16:38] <lotuspsychje> AceKing: how about a recoverymode/fix broken packages?
[16:38] <aktx> eh, on first boot
[16:38] <aktx> very soon, says something like
[16:38] <jhutchins> aktx: fsck is /sbin/fsck and requires sudo.
[16:38] <aktx> kernel panic not syncing vfs unable to mount root fs on unknown wn-block
[16:38] <lotuspsychje> AceKing: that could do the trick also
[16:38] <AceKing> lotuspsychje: tried that also.
[16:38] <lotuspsychje> hmm
[16:38] <AceKing> lotuspsychje: Thanks again for helping
[16:39] <jhutchins> aktx: Definitely need to run fsck.
[16:40] <aktx> k1l_, its working, i selected the previous kernel version on boot
[16:40] <aktx> how come the latest kernel option gives a kernal panic? how would i fix this?
[16:40] <aktx> im able to boot into desktop now :)
[16:41] <aktx> okay great, now upon first desktop load
[16:41] <aktx> i get "the volume 'boot' has only 0 bytes disk space remaining"
[16:41] <aktx> i guess only the ubuntu desktop livecd has gpart that i can use? not the server version?
[16:42] <MonkeyDust> aktx server version is an installer, not live session
[16:42] <MonkeyDust> not a*
[16:42] <aktx> MonkeyDust, okay thx, im dl'ing the desktop iso atm
[16:46] <tomTOMTOMTOMTOM_> drone please op me
[16:48] <freeone3000> Every time I plug in or unplug my phone from charging, I get every network mount on my toolbar. How do I make this not happen?
[16:49] <tomTOMTOMTOMTOM_> please /op tomTOMTOMTOMTOM
[16:49] <OerHeks> tomTOMTOMTOMTOM_, no.
[16:51] <tomTOMTOMTOMTOM_> scusate
[16:51] <tomTOMTOMTOMTOM_> sorry
[16:52] <tomTOMTOMTOMTOM_> gfghjkklhg
[16:52] <tomTOMTOMTOMTOM_> sorry me
[16:52] <cellogarcia> EAE
[16:53] <tomTOMTOMTOMTOM_> print ubunu chat italy,not #ubuntu-it pleas
[16:53] <tomTOMTOMTOMTOM_> i am italy
[16:53] <OerHeks> tomTOMTOMTOMTOM_, no, english only.
[16:53] <tomTOMTOMTOMTOM_> sono del 13.10.2003
[16:53] <cellogarcia> NO
[16:54] <cellogarcia> aqui é brasil
[16:54] <OerHeks> !br
[16:54] <chotaz`w> cellogarcia, !br
[16:54] <cellogarcia> sim
[16:59] <ryilefer> Guys...I tried to update nvidia..running Ubuntu 15.10..now I can't even login..it says "The system is running in low graphics mode"
[16:59] <ActionParsnip> aktx: remember to MD5 test it when it completes :)
[16:59] <ActionParsnip> ryilefer: #ubuntu+1 for Wily support
[17:00] <aktx> lol
[17:00] <aktx> ActionParsnip, i just dl'd the ubuntu desktop and burned it to disk
[17:00] <ryilefer> Thanks
[17:00] <aktx> now booting into livecd
[17:01] <ActionParsnip> aktx: helps to verify the data you have is complete and consistent
[17:01] <busynoggs> supppp bithcezzz\
[17:02] <aktx> busynoggs, yo
[17:03] <busynoggs> fuckk FHS
[17:03] <busynoggs> mo fosckaqzzaz
[17:03] <busynoggs> :D
[17:03] <tomTOMTOMTOMTOM_>
[17:03] <OerHeks> !ot | busynoggs
[17:03] <tomTOMTOMTOMTOM_>
[17:03] <tomTOMTOMTOMTOM_>
[17:03] <tomTOMTOMTOMTOM_>
[17:03] <tomTOMTOMTOMTOM_>
[17:03] <tomTOMTOMTOMTOM_>
[17:03] <busynoggs> ok how to make 1M with ubuntu?
[17:04] <busynoggs> please helpszzzzz
[17:04] <busynoggs> lots of softwarez
[17:04] <busynoggs> but no $$$ in my ac
[17:04] <busynoggs> c
[17:04] <eraggo> !ops
[17:04] <SchrodingersScat> dd can make a 1M file easily
[17:05] <aktx> i need help partitioning
[17:05] <aktx> im trying to make my boot partition larger than 100mb
[17:05] <busynoggs> google
[17:05] <aktx> but my main drive? how can i resize
[17:05] <SchrodingersScat> !google | busynoggs
[17:05] <aktx> i just dont know, it's like making this extra space at the end
[17:05] <busynoggs> swithc it
[17:05] <eraggo> aktx: How big is your main drive?
[17:06] <aktx> eraggo, 1.36 TiB
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> aktx: you will need to use a liveCD to resize your system partition, then resize the boot partition into the freed space
[17:06] <eraggo> aktx: how would you like to be partioned it?
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> aktx: how many kernels do you need!?
[17:06] <aktx> eh... just one kernel?
[17:06] <busynoggs> alllll of them
[17:06] <aktx> i just need to make my boot partition larger than 100mb
[17:06] <aktx> but it's at the front
[17:06] <aktx> or something
[17:06] <ideb> hi
[17:07] <ActionParsnip> aktx: then why do you need more than 100Mb for /boot ?
[17:07] <ActionParsnip> aktx: my /boot is 25Mb
[17:07] <aktx> rly??
[17:07] <aktx> why does my ubuntu mate server complain
[17:07] <aktx> that boot is running out of space
[17:07] <ActionParsnip> aktx: yes, have you ever considered uninstalling the old unused kernels?
[17:07] <OerHeks> .. mate server?
[17:07] <aktx> ActionParsnip, how do i do that?
[17:08] <aktx> i use ubuntu mate
[17:08] <aktx> because i like their desktop
[17:08] <ActionParsnip> aktx: there is no ubuntu mate server. You have a desktop OS if you are running ,mate
[17:08] <ideb> i have a dell xps13, with a broadcom wireless card. i need to re-install ubuntu, but i have no access to ethernet. can i download an ubuntu image which comes with the proprietary driver for my wireless, so i can have network connection ?
[17:08] <aktx> how does i uninstall the old kernels?
[17:08] <aktx> okay
[17:08] <aktx> https://ubuntu-mate.org/
[17:08] <aktx> then explain this
[17:08] <ActionParsnip> aktx: what is the output of: uname -a; dpkg -l | grep linux-image | awk {'print $2'}
[17:08] <aktx> i use their server iso
[17:08] <ActionParsnip> aktx: ubuntu mate != ubuntu server mate
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> aktx: then why did you install server, when you wanted a desktop OS?
[17:09] <busynoggs> FUCK ubuntu
[17:09] <busynoggs> why do you need it?
[17:09] <busynoggs> if webserver
[17:09] <SchrodingersScat> !language | busynoggs
[17:09] <busynoggs> fuckk kir
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> aktx: if you use a page like http://pastie.org you wont flood the channel
[17:09] <busynoggs> soeryy
[17:09] <busynoggs> apache suckzz aszzz
[17:09] <aktx> ActionParsnip, linux-image-3.16.0-30 generic linux-image-exra-3.16.0-30-generic linux-image-generic-lts-utopic
[17:10] <busynoggs> not flexxible
[17:10] <ActionParsnip> busynoggs: grow up, please
[17:10] <aktx> ActionParsnip, because server edition doesnt come with as much stuff
[17:10] <ActionParsnip> aktx: there is a minial ISO for that
[17:10] <busynoggs> whateversszz is the case, aapche SUCKZZZ
[17:10] <aktx> hmm, i see
[17:10] <aktx> i did not know
[17:10] <ActionParsnip> aktx: can you pastebin the full output please
[17:10] <aktx> i cant, it's on a separate desktop
[17:11] <aktx> i can take a picture with my cellphone, should i do that?
[17:11] <busynoggs> LIGHTTPD
[17:11] <busynoggs> D
[17:11] <busynoggs> mofooszzz
[17:11] <busynoggs> lua
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> aktx: sounds cool
[17:11] <busynoggs> do whatever you want
[17:12] <busynoggs> its cooler than your dreams
[17:12] <busynoggs> comlete freedoom
[17:12] <busynoggs> complete
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> busynoggs: do you have a support question?
[17:12] <aktx> how do i uninstall previous kernel versions then?
[17:12] <nrfullah> !ot | busynoggs
[17:12] <busynoggs> enopt
[17:12] <busynoggs> nop
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> aktx: if you can show me what the output of my command was, I can advise
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> busynoggs: then please assist others or be quiet
[17:13] <busynoggs> OK
[17:13] <aktx> okay hang on
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> busynoggs: you are spamming the channel with drivvel, please stop
[17:14] <busynoggs> :-*
[17:14] <freeone3000> Every time I plug in or unplug my phone from charging, I get every network mount on my toolbar. How do I make this not happen?
[17:15] <aktx> ActionParsnip, http://pastebin.com/ifjZ8g7E
[17:15] <aktx> btw thx for the assistance
[17:15] <aktx> so
[17:15] <aktx> this is on my livecd though
[17:15] <aktx> should i boot into my desktop?
[17:15] <aktx> :\
[17:15] <nrfullah> freeone3000: More details what desktop, are you unmounting the phone, what ubunru release is a good start.
[17:17] <aktx> ActionParsnip, i think the answer is this http://askubuntu.com/questions/2793/how-do-i-remove-or-hide-old-kernel-versions-to-clean-up-the-boot-menu
[17:17] <aktx> so i will try this, thank you
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> aktx: yes we need to see the packages installed in your OS.. think about it
[17:17] <aktx> okay
[17:17] <aktx> :)
[17:17] <nrfullah> freeone3000: You might define what "I get every network mount on my toolbar" means exactly
[17:18] <aktx> ActionParsnip, http://pastebin.com/CRs5tAgY
[17:19] <aktx> lol so many!!
[17:19] <freeone3000> nrfullah: I have a set of folders mounted under /media . These are s3fs fuse mounts. Doesn't matter what, they usually are "Unlocked from toolbar". I plug in my phone, they show up. I unplug my phone, they show up. This is Ubuntu 14.04
[17:19] <aktx> the 52 kernel is what gives me the kernel panic
[17:19] <aktx> but i think its because my /boot partition is outta space
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> aktx: exactly, so... wjhy keep so many?
[17:19] <aktx> i dont know
[17:19] <aktx> how do i not do this by default?
[17:19] <aktx> i installed ubuntu server
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> aktx: sudo apt-get --purge remove linux-image-3.13.0-32-generic linux-image-3.13.0-40-generic linux-image-3.13.0-43-generic linux-image-3.13.0-44-generic linux-image-3.13.0-45-generic linux-image-3.13.0-46-generic
[17:20] <aktx> oh dear are you sure?
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> aktx: I know you installed server, remember this: "<aktx> ActionParsnip, because server edition doesnt come with as much stuff"
[17:21] <aktx> yes :)
[17:21] <aktx> but next time
[17:21] <aktx> i will remembr to use minimal cd as you suggested
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> aktx: yes, that will remove most of those old kernels, leaving you the one you are on and one earlier as fallback
[17:21] <aktx> okay
[17:21] <aktx> do i have to manually remove the old kernels rfom now on?
[17:21] <nrfullah> freeone3000: Your using a git app, THe mount, not in the ubuntu repos, someone may help, but technically not supported here is all
[17:22] <Amm0n> aktx, sudo apt-get autoremove should do it too
[17:22] <freeone3000> nrfullah: I'm using a what now?
[17:22] <Johnny_Linux> that will remove them all, keep the one your on and the oldest
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> aktx: yes
[17:23] <aktx> oh okay
[17:23] <aktx> autoremove, hmm
[17:23] <nrfullah> freeone3000: I don't see "s3fs fuse mounts" except at git.
[17:23] <aktx> so if i install
[17:23] <aktx> the desktop version
[17:23] <freeone3000> nrfullah: Why does it matter what sort of mount they are? It's a mount.
[17:23] <aktx> then it should automatically remove the old kernels, yes?
[17:23] <freeone3000> nrfullah: I want unity to stop showing my mounts on the taskbar as if it was doing me a favor.
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> aktx: no because it cannot predict what a user wants
[17:23] <freeone3000> nrfullah: The -t argument to `mount` shouldn't matter one whit.
[17:23] <aktx> so it's not like windows?
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> aktx: if there were a setting to cleanse old kernels but keep X number, then yes. But sadly not
[17:24] <nrfullah> freeone3000: I only informed you that this channel supports packages from the ubuntu repos primarily and suggested you may get help, there is no arguement there.
[17:24] <freeone3000> nrfullah: What does a package have to do with `mount`?
[17:24] <aktx> ohhh i see
[17:24] <aktx> ActionParsnip, is this a common problem you come across then?
[17:24] <icewalker> hi, anyone knows can i find the howto for install oracle11gr2 on ubuntu14.04? i can't see to find it on google.
[17:24] <aktx> from newbies such as myself :)
[17:24] <nrfullah> freeone3000: WE are done, I can't help on the fix, I'm not sure the issue.
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> freeone3000: mount is part of the mount package.....?
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> aktx: yes, if you have a separate partition for /boot
[17:25] <aktx> oh, i see
[17:25] <nrfullah> freeone3000: Be careful with arguements that are not backed with any real thought.
[17:25] <aktx> gotcha
[17:25] <aktx> well cool man, thank you!
[17:26] <freeone3000> nrfullah: What, that all mounted filesystems should be treated identically because udev handles that crap and not the desktop environment?
[17:26] <nrfullah> sigh
[17:27] <freeone3000> icewalker: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/database/database-technologies/express-edition/downloads/index.html . Download. Extract. alien will convert rpm to deb. Install resultant deb.
[17:27] <aktx> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsgbcYnmR6Y
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> aktx: you can also run: sudo apt-get --purge autoremove; sudo apt-get clean as a final step. Probably save you a tonne of space
[17:27] <aktx> ActionParsnip, right, i will do that
[17:27] <aktx> thx for the tips!
[17:27] <aktx> i guess that should be second-hand from now on
[17:27] <aktx> sudo apt-get --purge autoremove
[17:28] <freeone3000> Okay. Looks like what I want is to blacklist my device UUIDs from Unity from gconf-edit
[17:29] <freeone3000> But mounts like USB devices and CDs don't have a static UUID, so https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1103593 affects me.
[17:30] <nrfullah> dconf-editor
[17:31] <icewalker> what package do i need to install to get add-apt-repository cmd
[17:32] <nrfullah> icewalker: What is the end goal?
[17:32] <icewalker> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/java
[17:32] <icewalker> returns command not found
[17:33] <nrfullah> icewalker: for the record ppa's are not supported here, but what release are you running?
[17:33] <icewalker> 14.04.2 LTS, Trusty Tahr
[17:34] <nrfullah> icewalker: Why the ppa there is an excellent java wiki, open and closed source?
[17:34] <nrfullah> just curious is all
[17:35] <icewalker> trying follow this doc to install oracle11gr2 http://blog.whitehorses.nl/2014/03/18/installing-java-oracle-11g-r2-express-edition-and-sql-developer-on-ubuntu-64-bit/
[17:36] <freeone3000> icewalker: python-software-properties provides add-apt-repository. For Oracle Java, I reccomend using the deb provided by Oracle instead of a PPA.
[17:36] <icewalker> thanks
[17:36] <freeone3000> icewalker: Though Ubuntu includes builds of openjdk-7-jre and openjdk-8-jre in the Canonical(TM) repository.
[17:37] <nrfullah> +1
[17:43] <Jacta> does anyone know best way to sed a setting in default php.ini? I want to set auto_append_file = TO auto_append_file = /partners/test.inc
[17:43] <Jacta> can anyone help me with that?
[17:44] <freeone3000> Jacta: sed -i.bak 's@auto_append_file = TO@auto_append_file = /partners/test.inc@' php.ini
[17:50] <Jacta> Thanks freeone3000 :)
[17:53] <impi> hello. do i need to have swap space for my laptop to suspend when i close my laptop lid?
[17:54] <lotuspsychje> impi: can you describe your real problem with suspend?
[17:54] <impi> lotuspsychje, for the past few days i close my laptop lid, put it in my bag and drive hom on my bike, 17km's
[17:54] <impi> when i get home i find that my laptop did not suspend and is very hot inside the bag
[17:55] <lotuspsychje> impi: did suspend work before?
[17:55] <impi> lotuspsychje, yes
[17:55] <lotuspsychje> impi: wich ubuntu version?
[17:55] <impi> power settings is set to suspend
[17:55] <impi> 14.0.4
[17:55] <impi> i resently remove my swap because i have an ssd
[17:55] <lotuspsychje> impi: did you check dconf-editor for the power settings?
[17:56] <impi> was wondering if that was the cause
[17:56] <impi> lotuspsychje, i have not, im doing it now
[17:56] <impi> thanks
[17:56] <lotuspsychje> impi: wich ssd and did you change bios from IDE to AHCI?
[17:56] <montroy> does anyone know how to get bluetooth working on linux mint
[17:56] <lotuspsychje> !bluetooth | montroy
[17:57] <impi> lotuspsychje, it's a dell precision m3800 - not sure about the details, of the ssd, but i have not changed any bios settings
[17:57] <lotuspsychje> impi: some ssd's might need firmware update + bios set to AHCI you might wanna doublecheck that too
[17:58] <lotuspsychje> impi: but this might be not related to your suspend
[17:58] <lotuspsychje> impi: what did you do with swap exactly?
[17:59] <impi> lotuspsychje, i commented out the entry in fstab and rebooted
[17:59] <impi> and i also installed a swap app
[17:59] <impi> will tell you now which one
[18:00] <gagalicious> i have Broadcom Corporation NetLink BCM57788 card . which works with ubuntu desktop iso installation but not with ubuntu server. how do i install Broadcom Corporation NetLink BCM57788 ? what do i need to type? apt-get install...? pls help. thanks.
[18:00] <lotuspsychje> impi: for suspend you could try a tail -f /var/log/syslog and same with dmesg and play around with suspend a bit
[18:01] <impi> lotuspsychje, you have helped me greatly, thank you a million times over
[18:01] <lotuspsychje> !broadcom | gagalicious
[18:01] <montroy> that did not work
[18:01] <impi> i will take it from here and see if i can fix it, you're a star man
[18:01] <montroy> anyone know how to get bluetooth working on linux mint
[18:01] <lotuspsychje> impi: good luck mate, install preload also
[18:01] <gagalicious> lotuspsychje: thanks
[18:02] <impi> lotuspsychje, +1
[18:02] <lotuspsychje> gagalicious: oh thats network card sorry, you might wanna look firmware/driver updates perhaps
[18:03] <lotuspsychje> gagalicious: maybe install with another wifi stick and enabled internet from there + updates enabled to make ubuntu search for drivers?
[18:03] <lotuspsychje> !mint | montroy
[18:04] <lotuspsychje> montroy: we strongly reccomend you installing ubuntu desktop, where things get smooth
[18:04] <montroy> is ubuntu really that much better
[18:04] <lotuspsychje> montroy: its the most populare Os in the world
[18:04] <gagalicious> lotuspsychje: network card... what should i do???
[18:05] <gagalicious> lotuspsychje: pls help. it's network card not wifi
[18:05] <gagalicious> miux is going to be the best
[18:05] <lotuspsychje> gagalicious: you need to be connected another way somehow, to let ubuntu get that broadcom driver
[18:06] <lotuspsychje> gagalicious: or check broadcoms website for latest linux drivers
[18:07] <gagalicious> lotuspsychje: i intend to use another computer that can have a compatible network card detected and then install the network card driver of broadcom on that computer before moving my hdd back to the server i need
[18:07] <gagalicious> lotuspsychje: can u help? where is the driver?
[18:11] <DarkSim_> Hi I'm using 14.04 and I'm trying to use a Polish application called Moja cewe fotoksiazka, when it starts it asks for an update but it fails telling me that a perl script doesn't exist. I don't know what to do at this point
[18:13] <OerHeks> DarkSim_, if it is not in our repos, ask the guys who made it?
[18:17] <lala> I tried to mount my USB drive and Ubuntu Server 14.04.2 LTS gave me an error "mount: unknown filesystem type 'exfat'".
[18:17] <lala> I found this article: http://askubuntu.com/questions/364270/mount-unknown-filesystem-exfat
[18:17] <lala> Should I do `sudo apt-get install exfat-fuse exfat-utils` ?
[18:17] <scarecrow7> hey..i'm running 15.04..my battery has stopped charging..it was working fine few hours ago and it's now at 0% and does not charge at all..
[18:17] <OerHeks> lala, yes
[18:18] <lala> Okay thanks.
[18:18] <OerHeks> lala after install, insert the usb again and it should auto
[18:18] <OerHeks> mount
[18:18] <lala> Oh okay.
[18:20] <lala> OerHeks: I did `sudo mount /dev/sdf1 /mnt/` and it worked.
[18:21] <OerHeks> lala have fun :-)
[18:22] <baja> hi i am a programmer
[18:23] <baja> i want to install mono
[18:23] <baja> im finding difficult
[18:25] <en1gma> i have an I7-4770k and am using onboard graphics over hdmi. i having lots of problems with freezing (almost...usually recovers if i let it sit) ubuntu 15.04 amd 64
[18:25] <OerHeks> !info mono-complete
[18:25] <OerHeks> baja install the -complete metapackage
[18:26] <Kartagis> unable to bind socket: Cannot assign requested address while installing dnsproxy. what is it clashing with?
[18:26] <en1gma> the screen will go dim and become un responsive and i have to wait. if i open firefox it takes long time to open and the spinning icon to stop spinning. if i close it takes long time to close and when it does close if i try to open it says it already running. so i have to wait again and then click firefox icon and it will open
[18:26] <baja> on the website i have clicked complete but its showing some text??
[18:26] <en1gma> everything seems really slow
[18:26] <OerHeks> baja use softwarecenter/apt-get
[18:27] <en1gma> can anyone help with this?
[18:28] <scarecrow7> guys..anyway i can figure out if it's a hardware problem or a problem with ubuntu???
[18:28] <OerHeks> en1gma, is there any driver available in restricted-driver menu ?
[18:28] <en1gma> yea i think there was for my graphics but let me check real quick
[18:28] <OerHeks> type driver in dach, and the tool should show up
[18:28] <OerHeks> dash*
[18:28] <baja> im getting error @oerheks
[18:28] <en1gma> actually no there isnt.
[18:29] <baja> @Oerheks
[18:29] <lotuspsychje> en1gma: grafix card chipset and ubuntu version?
[18:29] <baja> Software can't be installed or removed because the authentication service is not available. (org.freedesktop.PolicyKit.Error.Failed: ('system-bus-name', {'name': ':1.71'}): org.debian.apt.install-or-remove-packages
[18:29] <OerHeks> baja on what ubuntu version are you on?
[18:30] <baja> 14.04
[18:30] <baja> its saying i have no priviledge
[18:31] <en1gma> i have an asus z97i-plus and onboard gpu (i7-4770k)
[18:31] <OerHeks> baja did you use 'sudo apt-get ..' ?
[18:31] <en1gma> just talking to you it has frozen 2x just looking at software update
[18:31] <baja> nope software center
[18:31] <lotuspsychje> en1gma: pastebin sudo lshw -C video please?
[18:31] <en1gma> k gimmie a few secs its still freezing or responding severely slow
[18:32] <baja> unable to change to root gid: Operation not permitted
[18:32] <en1gma> i uncheck cdrom and hit reload and its still updating cache. for almost 2mins
[18:32] <lotuspsychje> en1gma: ubuntu version? did you enable internetupdates during setup?
[18:33] <en1gma> my mboard https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/Z97IPLUS/ with latest bios too
[18:33] <nejni-marji_> I'm trying to get my wifi to work, and connecting to my router with wpa_supplicant, and when I run 'dhcpcd wlan0' I get an IP, but I can't ping my router
[18:33] <en1gma> yep internet updates too
[18:33] <lotuspsychje> nejni-marji_: wifi card chipset please?
[18:33] <en1gma> updating cache still
[18:33] <en1gma> finally it just closed
[18:33] <en1gma> ok let me get you the info you asked for
[18:34] <baja> @Oeherks check the private msg i sent u
[18:34] <en1gma> gettin rdy to pastebin but opening a new tab is almost making it freeze
[18:35] <nejni-marji_> lotuspsychje: rtl8188ee
[18:35] <ioria> baja: behind firewall or proxy ?
[18:35] <en1gma> still cant type in the address bar even though new tab is open
[18:36] <en1gma> screen going dark after i did type pastebin.com but it not going to it
[18:36] <tomkralidis> hi, we're using Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS and have installed libxml2-dev 2.8.0+dfsg1-5ubuntu2.2~precise1
[18:36] <OerHeks> baja, keepit in the channel, please.
[18:36] <tomkralidis> we'd like to have this patch available: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libxml2/+bug/1194410/comments/4
[18:36] <lotuspsychje> !realtek | nejni-marji_
[18:37] <tomkralidis> how would one go about ensuring a patched version is installed?
[18:37] <OerHeks> baja i suspect something is wrong, or your system is mounted read only, or you removed service sfrom startup
[18:37] <lotuspsychje> nejni-marji_: check also realteks website for latest firmware/drivers for linux
[18:37] <en1gma> still waiting....
[18:37] <en1gma> lotuspsychje http://pastebin.com/G7zCCb7y
[18:38] <en1gma> i dont think i have xeon
[18:39] <baja> @Oerheks so whats the way foward
[18:40] <baja> i dont need this kind of trouble
[18:40] <lotuspsychje> en1gma: ubuntu version please?
[18:40] <baja> im enjoying ubuntu and i dont want issues that restrict me from continue
[18:41] <en1gma> whats the command again
[18:41] <en1gma> i looking for it above but lost it
[18:41] <baja> can you help
[18:41] <jmspeex> OK, so this is what I get when booting Xubuntu 14.04 before I hit any key on the keyboard or press any mouse button:
[18:41] <jmspeex> http://jmvalin.ca/misc_stuff/trusty_login.png
[18:42] <en1gma> uname -r?
[18:42] <en1gma> 3.16.0-30-generic
[18:42] <en1gma> my dang router has reset 4x since i booted up but i do think that is my isp
[18:42] <jmspeex> then if I actually enter a password the error disappears, and I'm left with this: http://jmvalin.ca/misc_stuff/trusty_login2.png
[18:43] <OerHeks> baja, normally you can ' sudo touch /forcefsck ' to force filecheck on next boot, but you have no sudo ..
[18:43] <jmspeex> where the password field is actually disabled (can't type anything)
[18:43] <OerHeks> baja boot in recoverymode, and perform this comand, and reboot to let the system check itself.
[18:44] <baja> sudo: unable to change to root gid: Operation not permitted
[18:44] <jmspeex> right now the only way I can login is "Ctrl-Alt-F2, login/password, startx"
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[18:51] <en1gma> lotuspsychje do you need any more info?
[18:51] <nejni-marji_> I have the drivers for my wireless chip installed, and I have an IP on my network, but I can't ping anything
[18:54] <nrfullah> nejni-marji_: Helps to know the hardware and what driverb you mean.
[18:55] <lotuspsychje> en1gma: did you try lighter versions like lubuntu or xubuntu?
[18:55] <nejni-marji> nrfullah: rtl8188ee
[18:56] <nrfullah> nejni-marji: Thanks, just include that in the posts is all, not an area I know.
[18:56] <en1gma> right now im running off an ubuntu live cd called gnuradio / sdr. i have a usb 3.0 hdd that has full install of ubuntu 15.04 (almost exactly like what im running now) and it does same thing
[18:56] <ioria> nejni-marji, can't you ping yourself or the router ?
[18:57] <en1gma> i think im gonna downgrade to 14.04 and do a full install
[18:57] <en1gma> i would really like to get this working first so i dont have to do all that
[18:57] <lotuspsychje> en1gma: yeah try LTS or lighter versions lubuntu/xubuntu
[18:58] <en1gma> you dont think there is an actual fix?
[18:58] <lotuspsychje> en1gma: depends what causes this, if 14.04 doesnt perform well either, could be your onboard grafix too low for unity..
[18:58] <nejni-marji> ioria: I can ping myself, but not the router.
[18:59] <lotuspsychje> en1gma: try a 14.04 livecd first perhaps to test
[18:59] <en1gma> yea that probably a good idea
[18:59] <en1gma> ok thanks
[18:59] <ioria> nejni-marji, your ip is correct respect to the router ip ?
[18:59] <nejni-marji> ioria: Yes.
[19:00] <ioria> nejni-marji, can you paste ifconfig and route ?
[19:00] <nejni-marji> ioria: Route to what? router?
[19:01] <ioria> nejni-marji, the output of the command 'route'
[19:01] <nejni-marji> ioria: Okay, hang on
[19:04] <hitu> Hello
[19:04] <hitu> Can ay one tell what is ubuntu next phone ?
[19:04] <lotuspsychje> !touch | hitu
[19:05] <nejni-marji_> ioria: http://pastebin.com/FUqt8QXh
[19:05] <freezevee> can anyone please help me with a rails/nginx/passenger installation in ubuntu 14.04 ? I get 403 pages
[19:05] <freezevee> *2 directory index of... forbidden is what I get
[19:05] <freezevee> any ideas ?
[19:07] <ioria> nejni-marji, i think you have no gateway/router :-(
[19:08] <nejni-marji> ioria: That's weird. Is there a way to fix that?
[19:08] <bull3t_six> need a little help with lxc. So I have configured and started a container in the lxc web interface but I get no results in "lxc list" or lxc-ls. what gives
[19:09] <ioria> nejni-marji, the eth is working ?
[19:09] <bull3t_six> I have installed and uninstalled lxd, so it may have something to do with my issue
[19:09] <nejni-marji> ioria: Yes.
[19:10] <Ally_> Hello, is there anyone that can help as I've gotten myself into a predicament.
[19:10] <ioria> nejni-marji, iwconfig looks ok ?
[19:11] <ioria> nejni-marji, by the way, i don't see wlan0 inteface in your ifconfig
[19:11] <lotuspsychje> !ask | Ally_
[19:12] <Ally_> Earlier, I installed Linux Ubuntu for my first time after trying at a friend's house and when I selected "erase and install Linux" from my USB drive, it rebooted. Great! But when I try to boot up with another drive, nothing works. No drives work for me. This is a bummer as I can't use my PC at all anymore.
[19:12] <lotuspsychje> freezevee: can the #nginx guys help you perhaps?
[19:13] <freezevee> lotuspsychje: nope
[19:13] <nejni-marji_> ioria: http://pastebin.com/a7dzg1Ay
[19:13] <lotuspsychje> Ally_: did you disable fastboot and secureboot from bios<?
[19:13] <Ally_> I think so.
[19:14] <lotuspsychje> Ally_: is there an underscore _ when you try to boot?
[19:14] <ioria> nejni-marji, well, the interface it's not configured... how can you ping your ip ?
[19:14] <Ally_> I'm not sure what option it is in my BIOS
[19:14] <DarkSim_> If one installs software with a install.pl file, how would you go by uninstalling said software?
[19:14] <icewalker> ssh -X u@remotehost failed with (process:6397): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_slice_set_config: assertion 'sys_page_size == 0' failed
[19:14] <icewalker> Error: cannot open display: :0.0
[19:14] <lotuspsychje> Ally_: if your default Os is win8, you need to disable fastboot + secureboot in bios to install ubuntu
[19:14] <Ally_> No. It just says "reboot and enter proper media device" - not exact as I'm doing this from memory.
[19:14] <ioria> nejni-marji, are you pinging 127.0.0.1 ?
[19:14] <icewalker> do i need to have xserver install on remotehost?
[19:14] <nejni-marji> ioria: I'm pinging 10.0.0.1
[19:15] <nejni-marji> ioria: I'd use dhcpcd wlan0 to configure it, right?
[19:15] <Ally_> I tried to delete win8 as I wanted to swap to Ubuntu. From the install menu, I selected "erase and install Ubuntu"
[19:15] <lotuspsychje> icewalker: maybe the #openssh guys can answer that?
[19:15] <ioria> nejni-marji, open Network Connection and set it manual
[19:16] <lotuspsychje> Ally_: doublecheck your bios settings: disable fastboot and disable secureboot and try again install ubuntu
[19:16] <Ally_> So at the moment, I can't boot into any drive
[19:16] <ioria> nejni-marji, not automatic, enter your ip, mask, gateway and dns
[19:16] <lotuspsychje> !uefi | Ally_
[19:17] <Ally_> I'm not sure if my machine is UEFI?
[19:17] <lotuspsychje> Ally_: if you have win8 its uefi
[19:17] <Ally_> I did have win8, yes but it got erased
[19:17] <lotuspsychje> Ally_: doublecheck those settings in bios please
[19:18] <Ally_> There is no fast boot/secure boot options for me. Just silent boot
[19:18] <lotuspsychje> Ally_: dont you see legacy/uefi options in there?
[19:19] <Ally_> Only something about legacy which says enabled
[19:19] <lotuspsychje> Ally_: yeah then you need to find secureboot and fastboot aswell
[19:19] <Ally_> I've searched all over. Doesn't seem to have it.
[19:19] <lotuspsychje> Ally_: if their enabled, you wont be able to boot ubuntu
[19:19] <lotuspsychje> Ally_: what kind of machine is this?
[19:20] <Ally_> Even though no boot option works?
[19:20] <Phveektor> How to I install ubuntu on efi
[19:20] <lotuspsychje> !efi | Phveektor
[19:20] <Ally_> It was a pre built Acer machine
[19:20] <Phveektor> Don't wanna use legacy again
[19:21] <lotuspsychje> Ally_: doublecheck every single option, until you can disable those
[19:21] <lotuspsychje> Ally_: try the ##hardware channel if you can find it
[19:21] <lotuspsychje> cant
[19:21] <Ally_> I have unfortunately
[19:22] <Ally_> Alright. Thanks. I'll go ask there
[19:22] <lotuspsychje> Ally_: is uefi or legacy enabled?
[19:22] <Ally_> Only something about legacy
[19:23] <Sewerrat> sudo dd if=placeof.img of=/dev/sdx is this the correct way to mount and img file on a sd card for raspberry pi?
[19:24] <noonker> Sewerrat: If you mean copy an image file to a SD card that looks right to me
[19:25] <Jordan_U> Sewerrat: "mount" is not the correct term here, and be *very* careful whenever using dd. Using the wrong device for of could result in losing all data on an important drive.
[19:26] <bull3t_six> does installing and configuring lxc web interface disable the ability to manage containers with the cli? That sounds really stupid asking that, because that is not the case for like anything else I have ever used but "lxc list" is not showing any containers at all.
[19:26] <eli_> hallo
[19:26] <noonker> Sewerrat: What Jordan_U said. Also when you run dd it's not verbous at all and will take a very long time.
[19:29] <zakulrekya> im cute
[19:30] <Sewerrat> ok thanks!
[19:30] <max3> does anyone here know a FOSS source code management tool that will auth will ldap and respect ldap groups
[19:33] <Pici> max3: I was just about to suggest gitlab, it it looks like only its commercial variant supports ldap groups.
[19:33] <icewalker> found my problem . i needed to create the missing ~/.Xauthority file
[19:33] <max3> Pici, yes
[19:34] <Jordan_U> max3: http://git-scm.com/book/ch4-2.html briefly mentions ldap, saying "As long as each user can get shell access on the machine, any SSH authentication mechanism you can think of should work.". See also http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1573722/git-with-ldap-authorization .
[19:35] <max3> ldap auth i know how to do
[19:35] <max3> i need group membership too
[19:35] <yingw787> hi does anyone know where this channel is logged
[19:35] <SchrodingersScat> !logs | yingw787
[19:35] <yingw787> also does anyone have familiarity with the syntax of /etc/fstab
[19:35] <yingw787> thanks I will check that out
[19:35] <SchrodingersScat> !fstab | yingw787
[19:36] <zakulrekya> yeah
[19:36] <SchrodingersScat> yingw787: if you run into snags you can often pastebin what you're working with and include it with your question
[19:36] <yingw787> cool I will share my /etc/fstab in a pastebin
[19:36] <Jordan_U> zakulrekya: Please limit your comments to productive, ubuntu related, support discussion.
[19:37] <yingw787> or rather the line relevant to what I'm doing
[19:37] <yingw787> so here it is
[19:37] <yingw787> http://pastebin.com/7Ar8BkSR
[19:37] <yingw787> I am trying to make a virtualized NAS device on an LXC container
[19:38] <yingw787> and the container with the NAS filesystem has the IP 10.0.3.246
[19:38] <yingw787> I am running everything as root
[19:38] <yingw787> because that's what it defaulted to
[19:38] <yingw787> it says that I have a parse error with this line
[19:38] <yingw787> the file system is XFS
[19:39] <yingw787> I'm not sure if I can use CIFS in this but I don't know enough about the differences between the two in order to tell
[19:39] <yingw787> I was following a tutorial with this linen
[19:39] <conan1> Good afternoon, someone could help me. I can not help the brightness of my monitor. I'm using ubuntu-mate.
[19:39] <Marioiscool246> Anyone here?
[19:40] <conan1> Good afternoon, someone could help me. I can not help the brightness of my monitor. I'm using ubuntu-mate.
[19:40] <conan1> Good afternoon, someone could help me. I can not help the brightness of my monitor. I'm using ubuntu-mate.
[19:40] <Marioiscool246> whats happening
[19:42] <VooDooNOFX> How can I find which configure parameters an ubuntu provided library (collectd-5.4.0-3ubuntu2) used to create the original binary?
[19:43] <levo> i installed libjava-gnome-java ( a java library) where does the .jar file go?
[19:43] <jhutchins> conan1: No need to repeat yourself. Monitor brightness is not usually software controlled.
[19:45] <jayjo> is there a way to email myself if any of my cronjobs fail for any reason natively with linux?
[19:45] <ioria> collectd.conf,maybe
[19:47] <jhutchins> jayjo: Write a wrapper that catches the exit code, do a conditional email on that.
[19:48] <jayjo> jhutchins: with shell script or python?
[19:48] <jhutchins> jayjo: Yes.
[19:48] <jayjo> OK thanks
[19:48] <ioria> http://serverfault.com/questions/610437/when-cron-is-completed-how-to-get-email-notification-and-log-in-a-file-both
[19:49] <Pici> jayjo: normally cron will mail your user will any failures.
[19:49] <jhutchins> Pici: Cron will email job output, not just errors.
[19:49] <Pici> jhutchins: right, maybe I misread.
[19:54] <yingw787> hello is there anybody there
[19:54] <yingw787> I am looking to fix some syntax here
[19:55] <yingw787> /10.0.3.246/dev/sdb1 /share cifs uid=0 gid=0 iocharset=utf8 sec=ntlm 0 0
[19:55] <yingw787> in /etc/fstab file
[19:55] <yingw787> I am trying to make a NAS virtualized filesystem with XFS in an XLC containre
[19:55] <yingw787> container
[19:55] <yingw787> but I am having some difficulties
[19:55] <yingw787> please let me know if you can help
[19:56] <wjko777> yingw787 it would help if you expand on "some difficulties"
[20:00] <conan1> Good afternoon, someone could help me. I can not help the brightness of my monitor. I'm using ubuntu-mate.
[20:01] <Apachez> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2WlQZf9zSg Last Week Tonight with John Oliver: Leap Second (HBO)
[20:02] <EriC^> conan1: not familiar with mate but there might be something in settings
[20:03] <Jordan_U> Apachez: This channel is for Ubuntu related support discussion only. For offtopic discussion of leap seconds please join #ubuntu-offtopic.
[20:06] <shkurata> hello
[20:06] <shkurata> how can I sync an Iphone with Ubuntu
[20:06] <EriC^> conan1: try sudo apt-get install mate-power-manager
[20:06] <shkurata> is there any program
[20:11] <VooDooNOFX> jayjo: You can also set the MAILTO="[email protected]" at the top line of your crontab. This will send the output of all cron entries (and stdout/stderr) to you.
[20:11] <rasalghul> shkurata, maybe if you see this post can make it works on ubuntu http://blog.xenodesystems.com/2014/03/how-to-managesync-your-ios-7-device.html
[20:11] <gazza> hello
[20:12] <rasalghul> Hi! I can't get work my ethernet interface on ubuntu 14.04.02 on Asus ROG g75vw, anybody can help me?
[20:13] <jhutchins> rasalghul: lspci -nn, find the PCI ID at the end of the line for the chipset, let us know what chipset and pciid you have. You can look in dmesg | less and see if there are errors or messages about missing firmware.
[20:15] <nrfullah> shkurata: here is a wiki to glance at, never had an apple product myself is all, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone
[20:15] <rasalghul> jhutchins, ok, let me paste the info on pastebin
[20:16] <rasalghul> thanks :)
[20:17] <jayjo> if I ONLY need email to send the output of my crontab success or errors, do I need an MTA? Should I use SSMTP or postfix?
[20:17] <jayjo> is that mainly a preference question?
[20:18] <rasalghul> jhutchins, Here I have the info http://pastebin.com/z0Wwx0xz
[20:20] <Bobbbblo> Hi
[20:24] <jollytick> if i use luks encryption on ubuntu for root and don't make a swap partition, would it be a pain to add one that's encrypted at a later time?
[20:26] <nrfullah> jollytick: Might help to look at this link on info on dm-crypt https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Dm-crypt/Swap_encryption#Using_a_swap_file
[20:30] <jhutchins> rasalghul: Should be supported by atl1c, should not need firmware, so dmesg | less and start looking for errors (or any message regarding the nic).
[20:32] <jollytick> nrfullah: kinda cryptic to me. i guess my real question is would it be difficult to create an encrypted swap that isn't going to even be on the same drive that ubuntu would be installed to at a later time
[20:32] <rasalghul> jhutchins, how can I copy the result of dmesg | less?
[20:33] <jhutchins> rasalghul: The idea is for YOU to read it.
[20:33] <jhutchins> rasalghul: You can learn a lot about your system that way.
[20:34] <jollytick> i'm not sure I need a swap is the issue, and if i make one now i'm going to have to resize partitions and such to make room. I have 16 GB of ram, but will multitask pretty heavily and possibly have up to 2 guest virtualbox linux installations running as well
[20:35] <rasalghul> jhutchins, ok, so... I start looking "nic" in the messages?
[20:36] <jhutchins> rasalghul: Right, or "Atheros", or "network".
[20:37] <jhutchins> rasalghul: is it possible it's just not configured? does /sbin/ifconfig -a show it?
[20:39] <rasalghul> jhutchins, yes it's shows like ifconfig
[20:43] <Ranieri_> Anyone else on 14.04 and having troubles installing Dropbox?
[20:43] <jhutchins> rasalghul: Ok, then you either need to set up the interfaces file (best if it's a static connection), or use network manager to configure it.
[20:43] <jhutchins> !interfaces
[20:43] <jhutchins> Bah.
[20:44] <nrfullah> rasalghul: Better if you describe your issue to the channel.
[20:44] <Ranieri_> Dropbox asks for admin password, and does nothing.
[20:45] <jhutchins> rasalghul: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/network-configuration.html
[20:45] <rasalghul> nrfullah, what channel?
[20:45] <nrfullah> Ranieri_: nautilus needs a resart in the process, have you opened it perchance
[20:46] <nrfullah> rasalghul: I tagged your nick mistakenly, sorry.
[20:47] <rasalghul> nrfullah, ok :)
[20:47] <squinty> Ranieri_, go to dropbox site and download applicable ubuntu deb. use gdebi to install. once installed, click on dropbox in menu and it should retrieve some extra files and then set up your account etc
[20:48] <Guest89019> what program do i need to burn a coiple of distros in a dvd
[20:48] <rasalghul> jhutchins, ok I'm going to view this guide and try to set up the interface on static connection
[20:48] <Guest89019> to make them bootable like whit yumi
[20:49] <nrfullah> Guest89019: multi boots are easier on a flash
[20:49] <jhutchins> rasalghul: It's a little over-complicated, basically you just need the setup in /etc/network/interfaces
[20:49] <jhutchins> rasalghul: Probably just the dhcp example.
[20:49] <Guest89019> i don't have a flash drive at the moment
[20:49] <jhutchins> rasalghul: No need to reboot, just ifup eth0
[20:50] <jhutchins> Guest89019: Multiple isos on the same disk are a bit complicated, one-per-disk is easy.
[20:50] <Guest89019> well in fact i am runin a live distro from a micro sd
[20:50] <rasalghul> jhutchins, ok
[20:53] <Guest89019> one per disk is lonely
[20:53] <Guest89019> well i have a cd
[20:54] <Guest89019> do i need other program than brasero and qhere is the ubuntu distro thanisnot that heavy
[20:54] <Jordan_U> Guest59964: It's possible to include any number of Ubuntu iso files (as files, not extracted) on either an sd card or a DVD, but not all distros support this. If you are just making a disk containing Ubuntu isos then we can help you here, if you want to boot other distros as well then you'll need to ask in ##linux or get information from multiple distro specific channels.
[20:57] <Guest89019> thnaks Jordan_U for started les make a cd whit ubuntu
[20:57] <xangua> Guest89019: would be easier to multiboot with a USB stick
[21:00] <Jordan_U> Guest59964: OK, what versions of Ubuntu are you planning to put on this DVD? (very few Ubuntu isos will fit on a CD, let alone multiple images on one).
[21:04] <jayjo> is there a way to encrypt my ssmtp.conf password?
[21:05] <Guest89019> i was looking want zorin but is hevy like 1.5 gb
[21:05] <jayjo> I don't want to put my email password in a plaintext file
[21:06] <Jordan_U> Guest59964: Zorin is also not Ubuntu, and thus we can't help you with it here. This channel is for Ubuntu support only (not derivatives).
[21:08] <jayjo> if I don't want to store my pasword, should I just use postfix?
[21:08] <Guest89019> then kubuntu and lubuntu are a no-no
[21:09] <Bashing-om> Guest89019: K/Lubuntu do enjoy support .
[21:09] <Jordan_U> Guest59964: Kubuntu and Lubuntu are "flavors", they are official versions of Ubuntu and all flavors use exactly the same repositories.
[21:09] <pbx> jayjo, do these instructions work for your situation? https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/SSMTP#Security
[21:10] <pbx> jayjo, postfix is swell, but running an MTA is a big leap from using ssmtp.
[21:10] <rasalghul_> jhutchins, it's strange i tried to reboot with the ethernet cable connected, and it works, but the led indicator on the port doesn't work... and put the live usb with 15.04 and works just fine (but the lights don't work)
[21:10] <jayjo> pbx: I agree, I actually think I'll just use a different gmail account that I don't mind storing the password
[21:11] <Jordan_U> Guest59964: That said, you will not be able to fit kubuntu and lubuntu on a single CD. Lubuntu's image will use the entire space of a CD, and Kubuntu's won't fit on a CD even alone.
[21:11] <jayjo> I'm not the administrator on the machine
[21:11] <jayjo> annoyingly
[21:11] <rasalghul_> jhutchins, right now I'm connected with the ethernet
[21:12] <Guest89019> yes i decide to go whit dvd
[21:13] <Guest89019> i will do the cd later whit one sitro o small distros like puppy or something
[21:14] <Jordan_U> Guest89019: OK, do you have the Kubuntu and Lubuntu isos already downloaded?
[21:14] <Guest89019> i am on it
[21:14] <Guest89019> i alredy have ubuntu 15
[21:17] <Jordan_U> Guest89019: To start, we'll make a directory that will contain the files we want to have on our DVD image. "mkdir dvd_contents/" then we'll make directories within that for files we'll need "mkdir -p dvd_contents/boot/grub/ && mkdir dvd_contents/boot-isos/".
[21:18] <Jordan_U> Guest89019: What live distribution are you currently booted into?
[21:19] <Guest89019> mint
[21:21] <Jordan_U> Guest89019: Please either boot from an Ubuntu Live system or join ##linux to cotinue then.
[21:22] <Guest89019> that will take time because i will hve to download the distroas again no to mention install xchat
[21:26] <Jordan_U> Guest89019: It's your choice if you want to join ##linux or take the extra time to get Ubuntu and continue here.
[21:33] <kriskropd> if my user is added to the group www-data, and I'm trying to access a folder with permissions 0770 to root:www-data and I'm receving 'Permission denied' everytime I try to `cd` to that directory, what should I do?
[21:35] <brontosaurusrex> kriskropd: that 0 in front means disable listing for other users irc
[21:36] <Jordan_U> kriskropd: Please pastebin the output of "groups" and "ls -ld /path/to/directory/".
[21:38] <jhutchins> brontosaurusrex: Nope.
[21:39] <jhutchins> brontosaurusrex: To disable reading by other users you set their permissions to -x
[21:40] <kriskropd> brontosaurusrex: i know what the 0 for 'others' means - thats why i don't understand why my user in www-data is being treated as an other
[21:40] <kriskropd> Jordan_U: `groups && groups kris && ls -ld /path/to/directory | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us` > http://sprunge.us/PLfe
[21:41] <Jordan_U> kriskropd: http://sprunge.us/PLfe is a completely empty page
[21:41] <kriskropd> Jordan_U: yeah, sorry - i goofed
[21:42] <kriskropd> kris : kris sudo www-data < output of `groups kris`
[21:42] <kriskropd> drwxrwxr-x 7 root www-data 4096 Jun 30 17:28 /usr/share/nginx/krisbrookins.com/
[21:43] <kriskropd> that directory has 775 and works because my user is being treated as other
[21:43] <Ranieri_> What's a good news reader for Ubuntu?
[21:43] <kriskropd> but when I switch it back to 770, it's as if my user isn't in www-data, which can be seen above
[21:44] <Jordan_U> kriskropd: Did you run "ls -ld /usr/share/nginx/krisbrookins.com/" as the user "kris"?
[21:44] <kriskropd> thats right
[21:45] <Jordan_U> kriskropd: Does that mean "yes"?
[21:46] <cgabaldonh> hi
[21:47] <kriskropd> Jordan_U: yes, su -c 'ls -ld /usr/share/nginx/krisbrookins.com' kris will produce drwxrwxr-x 7 root www-data 4096 Jun 30 17:28 /usr/share/nginx/krisbrookins.com
[21:48] <kriskropd> but if I change that directory to 770, my user cannot see that directory
[21:48] <kriskropd> despite `groups kris` showing kris : kris sudo www-data
[21:51] <Jordan_U> kriskropd: OK, does the following list the contents of /usr/share/nginx/krisbrookins.com/?: sudo chmod 770 /usr/share/nginx/krisbrookins.com && su -c "ls /usr/share/nginx/krisbrookins.com/" kris
[21:53] <kriskropd> Jordan_U: yes ... but when i tried to ls that directory without `su` I received 'ls: cannot open directory /usr/share/nginx/krisbrookins.com/: Permission denied'
[21:54] <Jordan_U> kriskropd: Are you currently running as the user "kris"?
[21:55] <kriskropd> Jordan_U: yes I am
[21:56] <Jordan_U> kriskropd: Then why did you bother with using "su -c" when I asked you for the output of "groups"? Please post the output of "groups" as I asked you to do originally. Do not modify the command in any way.
[21:56] <Caballero> hello ppl, i have that weird problem that when I plug headphones in my sound get muted and when i unplug them it unmutes but some time the sound will not work again for some reason.. i can hit the mute unmute button as i please, go to sound setting and verify that noting is mutted there, yet no sound. it sometimes fixes itself after replugging and unplugging hedphones. im using the latest stable ubuntu distro on a HP laptop. thank you
[21:57] <MonkeyDust> Caballero in a terminal, type 'alsamixer' ... anything unusual?
[21:57] <kriskropd> Jordan_U: http://sprunge.us/WFPV
[21:58] <kriskropd> as you can see, it works with su, it doesn't work without
[21:58] <kriskropd> Jordan_U: is `groups` not the same as `groups kris` ?
[21:59] <kriskropd> Jordan_U: huh, I guess not `groups` gives me 'kris sudo' while `groups kris` gives me 'kris : kris sudo www-data
[21:59] <Caballero> MonkeyDust, seems prety normal to me: master 47 heaphone speaker and pcm at 100, front front line line all at 00s
[22:00] <Jordan_U> kriskropd: Yes. "groups" and "groups kris" are not the same, even if you are already logged in as kris, as explained in "man groups". Don't modify commands given to you when troubleshooting, it only makes things confusing. If you had not modified the command I would have told you the problem immediately.
[22:00] <MonkeyDust> Caballero if you see MM anywhere, go there and hit m to unmute
[22:00] <Jordan_U> kriskropd: Great. That means that you recently added yourself to the www-data group, and have not logged out of this session since doing so. Any new "login" (including su -c) will act with the appropriate groups, so just log out then back in again.
[22:00] * kriskropd facepalm
[22:01] <kriskropd> Jordan_U: okay then - thanks for the help :) it kind of irritates me that it works like that, but I can deal with it
[22:01] <Jordan_U> kriskropd: You're welcome.
[22:02] <usr13> kriskropd: I always just symlink to /home/dirs (easier to me...)
[22:02] <Caballero> MonkeyDust, unmuted everything and yet cant hear a ssound either with speaker or headphone
[22:04] <kriskropd> Caballero: F6 in alsamixer will let you select another card - do you have any other cards that it might be defaulting to instead when you plug it in?
[22:05] <Caballero> it says: - defailt
[22:05] <Caballero> - default 0 inter hda
[22:06] <Caballero> so that looks normal kriskropd
[22:07] <Caballero> also the sound use to work perfectly al lthe time and that plug unplugues works fine some times and some time has made that bug happen.. right now i wont have any sound on my lap no matter was until i reboot the system..
[22:11] <Caballero> :(
[22:13] <MonkeyDust> Caballero sounds like your sound is unstable, that is hard to troubleshoot or deal with, we need to havez a stzrting point
[22:14] <Caballero> any way to kill the ''soudn management app'' and relaunch it other then rebooting?
[22:14] <shkurata> hello
[22:14] <bekks> Restart pulseaudio?
[22:15] <shkurata> my ubuntu doesn't sleep anymore
[22:15] <volty> hi, ubuntu-14.04.2 lts, I have muon blocked with «Waiting for configuration file». What should I do? Close it and check / install with apt-get update ?
[22:15] <shkurata> when I close my laptop
[22:15] <shkurata> this is from yesterday
[22:15] <krab10> hi, can someone PLEASE explain to me open source software licensing in private messaging?? please, i want to know how it works
[22:16] <shkurata> help please
[22:16] <Kamal_Max> Hey!
[22:17] <Caballero> well, thank you MonkeyDust and thank you kriskropd, will reboot it for now and look into that another day ;)
[22:18] <Kamal_Max> Has any body any experience for installing open cv
[22:18] <Kamal_Max> ?
[22:19] <kriskropd> Kamal_Max: it's in the canonical repositories iirc
[22:20] <kriskropd> Kamal_Max: yeah, I see lots of libs for it `apt-cache search opencv` - you might want to check with #opencv if you need to know which ones you need for your projec though
[22:21] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenCV
[22:23] <Kamal_Max> I'm looking for a fast and easy way for installing it
[22:25] <usr13> Kamal_Max: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenCV
[22:26] <usr13> Kamal_Max: http://rodrigoberriel.com/2014/10/installing-opencv-3-0-0-on-ubuntu-14-04/
[22:27] <jayjo> is there any practical difference to using ssmtp vs a python library in sending cron error emails?
[22:29] <MonkeyDust> jayjo start from the beginning... what brings you here
[22:30] <jayjo> lol! I just want to send myself emails in case something goes wrong with scripts that update my db fro external sources.
[22:31] <tintedwindows> hey i am unfarmililar w/ loading ubuntu on macs. my friend brought his old comp over and its an old mac giving me troubles. i already made a dvd of the iso in disk utility. now what?
[22:32] <MonkeyDust> tintedwindows insert the dvd, boot from dvd, follow instructions
[22:32] <tintedwindows> how do i boot to the dvd on a mac
[22:33] <tintedwindows> hold option key?
[22:33] <brainwash> !apple
[22:34] <tintedwindows> the apple key ok
[22:38] <tintedwindows> ok its saying select cd rom boot type
[22:39] <tintedwindows> i held the option key down that was the only thing that worked
[22:39] <tintedwindows> this is weird
[22:39] <MonkeyDust> tintedwindows find out how to boot from dvd, then come back for help
[22:39] <tintedwindows> this is a macbook the ones before macbook pro
[22:39] <tintedwindows> ok
[23:17] <snkcld> when i 1) have nvidia module loaded 2) am plugged in to an external display, then => when i copy paste in chrome, my browser freezes
[23:17] <snkcld> does this make _any_ sense, to anybody?
[23:17] <snkcld> i will pay you money if you can tell me what the hell the problem is lol
[23:19] <MonkeyDust> snkcld i'm happy with the money, then i'l start looking
[23:20] <snkcld> ill like, gittip you or whatever
[23:20] <snkcld> like 100$
[23:20] <snkcld> hahaha
[23:20] <snkcld> seriously, this is such a pain in the a$$
[23:20] <MonkeyDust> snkcld do you have the same issue with another browser?
[23:20] <snkcld> nope!
[23:20] <snkcld> let me add one more detail:
[23:20] <MonkeyDust> ok, then it's chrome related
[23:20] <snkcld> in atom, when i close a tab, this issue pops up
[23:20] <snkcld> only when nvidia is loaded, and im in an external display
[23:21] <snkcld> so im thinking it could be something with some broken opengl nvidia function???
[23:21] <MonkeyDust> what's atom?
[23:21] <snkcld> its just a text editor (similar to sublim etext)
[23:23] <snkcld> isnt that strange though?
[23:24] <buzz_> does anyone here use fortinet ssl vpn on ubuntu?
[23:24] <snkcld> when the nvidia module _isnt_ loaded, then i can copy paste just fine
[23:27] <Ranieri_> I don't understand this primary partition, extended partition stuff.
[23:27] <buzz_> what don't you understand Ranieri_
[23:28] <mtn> Ranieri_, http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Partition/
[23:28] <Ranieri_> mtn: Cool, I'll check it out
[23:28] <mtn> Ranieri_, maybe more than you want to know, but it has your answer ;)
[23:29] <Bashing-om> Ranieri_: See :https://iam.tj/kb/pc/boot/#a_bootloader ; Great tutorial. Basicly, 4 primary partitions, one of the primary partitions is ,made up as an 'extended' partition and within this exteneded partition ( a container) are the 'logical' partitions .
[23:33] <shammy_> hi ....can someone help me with wifi lubuntu please?
[23:34] <buzz_> adapter not working shammy_ ?
[23:34] <Jenova> Hello All. Hows everyone doing?
[23:35] <bodhi_zazen> Hot =)
[23:35] <shammy_> belkin wireless g plus card....works with install cd but quits wiupdatesth
[23:35] <shammy_> with install
[23:35] <Jenova> hehe. I got my AC running fullblast here.
[23:36] <bodhi_zazen> Jenova, pool therapy here
[23:37] <shammy_> how can i get belkin wireless g plus card working ?
[23:37] <shammy_> ty
[23:38] <bodhi_zazen> identify the chip, belkin wireless is meaningless sh
[23:38] <bodhi_zazen> shammy_,
[23:38] <cinco15> heollo mdo i just bunn whit braseo a image to make it butable
[23:38] <cinco15> the option that says burn iso
[23:38] <buzz_> shammy_ have you ran an update with ethernet?
[23:39] <shammy_> texas instruments pci1410 pc card bus controller
[23:39] <Jenova> \quit
[23:40] <shammy_> works with install on old lubuntu
[23:40] <buzz_> shammy_ The proprietary drivers can be activated under the desktop menu System > Administration > Hardware/Additional Drivers using an existing Internet connection (Ethernet or USB) for best results
[23:42] <shammy_> is there anyway to p old satellite pc.....i ripped the moniter off and now it cant find external monitor....sometimes with other distros
[23:43] <shammy_> ty bodhi
[23:46] <everhez> hola alguien por aca
[23:47] <Bashing-om> cinco15: And ? I do suggest to selct properties, and set the burn at lowest setting .
[23:48] <cinco15> thanks
[23:48] <cinco15> rebootin to try
[23:59] <Lewoco> Is there any way to change the delay before keys start repeating and the repeat frequency?
[23:59] <SchrodingersScat> keyboard settings?
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"locksmith2",
"lotuspsychje",
"mastahh",
"mateusz_",
"matt15",
"max3",
"mcparty",
"meandrain",
"mekhami",
"melon",
"mgolisch",
"micalm",
"michael_p",
"minimec",
"mon23c_",
"montroy",
"mtn",
"nehzah",
"nejni-marji",
"nejni-marji_",
"netameta",
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"noonker",
"notaeon",
"nrfullah",
"ojik",
"pbx",
"pezus1",
"pkull",
"popey",
"pragomer",
"prosodyContext",
"r0ute",
"rasalghul",
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"razieliyo",
"rock",
"ryilefer",
"salvum",
"scarecrow7",
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"shkurata",
"snkcld",
"squinty",
"sublimate",
"syntaxx",
"tailgate",
"tankerkiller125",
"teward",
"thebrush",
"tiblock",
"tintedwindows",
"tomTOMTOMTOMTOM_",
"tomkralidis",
"tonyyarusso",
"transjogja",
"turtle_",
"ubuntu996",
"usr13",
"volty",
"weihhh",
"wenisch",
"wjko777",
"wligtenberg",
"xangua",
"xar",
"yingw787",
"yvonne",
"zakulrekya"
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"channel": "#ubuntu"
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2015-06-30-#ubuntu-quality
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[12:02] <brendand> pitti, is this resolvable? http://paste.ubuntu.com/11798706/
[12:39] <pitti> brendand: doesn't look like it :/ you have a package installed (in the r/o system image) which conflicts with your test dependencies
[12:40] <pitti> brendand: unless you actually cheat and do the ro-apt-update stuff, of course
[12:40] <brendand> pitti, afaik i am doing that
[12:41] <pitti> brendand: ah right, update, but not dist-upgrade
[12:41] <pitti> i. e. the current archive went through some transition, but the tested image didn't yet
[12:41] <pitti> brendand: are you in the "happy" position of having to test old images again? :-(
[12:42] <brendand> pitti, well it seems there will always be a period of time where the two are out of sync
[12:42] <brendand> i'll check for a new image
[13:05] <brendand> pitti, weird even after i updated the image it still fails :/
[14:51] <brendand> pitti, crazily that error still happens even with the just built image ???
[14:52] <pitti> brendand: oxideqt-codecs-extra already ought to be on the image, is it not?
[14:53] <pitti> which version is it?
[14:53] <pitti> oxideqt-codecs-extra | 1.7.8-0ubuntu1 | wily | amd64, armhf, i386
[14:53] <pitti> that's the version we have in the archive, so I'm not sure what requires 1.7.9
[14:53] <pitti> oh, overlay PPA perhaps?
[14:54] <brendand> pitti, maybe, but the image i'm using should have been built with that
[14:54] <pitti> oxide-qt also doesn't seem to be in teh overlay
[14:55] <pitti> brendand: what is apt-cache policy oxideqt-codecs-extra ?
[14:56] <brendand> pitti, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11799522/
[14:56] <brendand> pitti, 1.7.9 is in -updates ???
[14:57] <pitti> brendand: erk, someone SRUed it without updating wily
[14:57] <pitti> sorry, I just looked at wily
[14:59] <pitti> brendand: so apparently we don't build the image with -updates/-security enabled, but do enable their apt sources
[15:00] <pitti> brendand: you should be able to work around this by commenting out the -updates/-security apt sources and running apt-get update
[15:00] <pitti> brendand: but congrats, you just found a rather major flaw in our image builds :)
[15:01] <brendand> pitti, will it be fixed?
[15:02] <pitti> brendand: I don't know; worth bringing up with ogra and sil2100 in #ubuntu-touch
[15:07] <brendand> pitti, ogra and sil seem to be in denial :)
[15:07] <brendand> pitti, well - they certainly are in sources.list, but why do you say they aren't used in the image build?
[15:07] <pitti> how do you mean? (I didn't see any recent discussion in #u-touch)
[15:07] <pitti> well, your apt-cache policy proves just that
[15:07] <brendand> pitti, sorry i'm talking on -ci-eng. maybe i shouldn't
[15:08] <pitti> if it was a recently built image
[15:09] <pitti> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/oxide-qt/1.7.9-0ubuntu0.15.04.1 landed on June 23, so a week aog
[15:09] <pitti> any image younger than a week ought to have it
[15:51] <brendand> pitti, it says published 3-4 hours ago on that page ??
[15:52] <pitti> brendand: oh, I see -- so it was held in some staging area for a week; nevermind then
[15:52] <brendand> pitti, probably the ppa
[15:53] <brendand> pitti, i think it just missed the cutoff for the new image
[15:53] <brendand> pitti, so need to wait for the next one
[15:53] <pitti> the -security staging PPA, not the touch overlay PPA
[15:53] <brendand> pitti, ah ok
[15:53] <pitti> brendand: as a workaround, you could remove -updates/-security apt sources from your image
[15:54] <brendand> pitti, i did try that, there was another error
[15:54] <brendand> pitti, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11799786/
[15:55] <pitti> brendand: ah, meh -- so, "next image" it is :/
[15:55] <brendand> pitti, yeah eventually this will happen enough times we'll be compelled to do something about it...
[15:56] <brendand> pitti, might become more urgent once more people start using autopkgtest
[19:30] <cachio> brendand, do you know how to avoid this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/11800900/?
[19:31] <brendand> cachio, it could be there is a problem importing a sub-module
[19:32] <brendand> cachio, is this with a specific branch?
[19:32] <cachio> brendand, this happened when I install all the packages in the device manually
[19:32] <cachio> brendand, and then I run the test with adt-run
[19:32] <cachio> brendand, i.e. python3 -m ubuntu_system_tests.command_line --update-apt ubuntu_system_tests.tests.test_html5_application.HTML5ApplicationTest
[19:33] <cachio> brendand, it happens with any branch
[19:34] <brendand> cachio, ok. i'm not sure off the top of my head
[19:34] <brendand> cachio, if you edit the adt-run command in command_line.py and add -S to it then it will break after that failure inside the adt-run environment
[19:34] <brendand> cachio, then you can try the import ubuntu_system_tests and see if it gives you a more detailed error
[19:35] <cachio> brendand, ok
[19:36] <cachio> brendand, tx
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2015-06-30-#ubuntu-cn
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[00:10] <^k^> 新 服务器基础应用 • 外网IP可以正常登陆服务器，内网IP却不行 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=471517 现在有台服务器（CentOS 6.5），有内网IP 192.168.7.10 和外网IP A.B.C.D （举个例子），客户端的IP也在内网（192.168.7.5）。从客户端上ping服务器的内网和外网IP都能成功。客户端用SSH通
[00:29] <^k^> archl: 拜逛逛壕
[00:30] <archl> 去。。。
[00:30] * archl 拜 alvin_rxg 蚊子壕
[01:07] <freeflying> HowIsItGoing: 基蛙，gopro运动过程中的视频拍摄效果如何
[01:13] <^k^> pity: 拜p姐
[01:28] <Niac> 今天会继续跌吗
[01:44] <HowIsItGoing> freeflying: 我还木有拍过 @_@
[01:44] * HowIsItGoing 很久不骑车了
[01:44] <HowIsItGoing> freeflying: 不过，跑男都用gopro做运动相机，你看他们运动的时候拍摄效果咋样？
[01:55] <archl> HowIsItGoing, 是吧，不需要稳定？不稳定才有运动感
[01:59] <hoxily> kandu: 上午好。
[02:01] <^k^> 暂无新帖 讲个笑话吧: 妻之自由 : 丈夫:"下一次,要请你生一个男孩子了。"妻子:"这哪里可以'自由'呢?"丈夫:"你样样都自由,这一样便不成么?"
[02:01] <^k^> ooOO_OOoo: 拜 红帽大中华区首席kdump测试.
[02:07] <^k^> iMadper: 拜 通州市政府边房壕
[02:12] <huntxu> HowIsItGoing: 拜CCIE蛙
[02:12] <freeflying> HowIsItGoing: 没看过那个啊
[02:12] <iMadper> HowIsItGoing: 拜 remote壕CCIE蛙
[02:12] <^k^> iMadper: ok HowIsItGoing => 拜 remote壕CCIE蛙
[02:16] <huntxu> iMadper: 你发达了啊
[02:16] <iMadper> huntxu: 肯定没啊
[02:16] <huntxu> iMadper: 不是通州吗
[02:16] <iMadper> huntxu: 拜 携妹子广州remote人生赢家糊涂徐壕
[02:16] <^k^> iMadper: ok huntxu => 拜 携妹子广州remote人生赢家糊涂徐壕
[02:16] <iMadper> ^k^: 干活啊你!
[02:17] <iMadper> ^k^: 乖
[02:17] <iMadper> huntxu: 以后你进来都会有人拜你
[02:17] <huntxu> iMadper: 这句话没体现我器大活好的特点
[02:18] <huntxu> iMadper: 我觉得这个描述不够准确
[02:18] <iMadper> huntxu: lol~
[02:18] <iMadper> huntxu: 把身高体重肌肉率和长度写进取?
[02:18] <iMadper> 写进去?
[02:19] <huntxu> iMadper: 能拿得出手的应该只有脂肪率低一项
[02:19] <kandu> hoxily: 早~
[02:19] <iMadper> huntxu: 长度啊? 你不是说器大活好?
[02:19] <huntxu> iMadper: 长度你敢和老美比？
[02:19] <iMadper> kandu: 拜 低调人生赢家kandu壕
[02:19] <iMadper> huntxu: 不敢啊
[02:19] <^k^> iMadper: ok kandu => 拜 低调人生赢家kandu壕
[02:20] <iMadper> FJKong: 拜 sogoupinyin首席开发携老婆remote人生赢家孔叔叔
[02:21] <^k^> iMadper: ok FJKong => 拜 sogoupinyin首席开发携老婆remote人生赢家孔叔叔
[02:21] * iMadper 每天抽点儿时间帮kk完善
[02:27] <kandu> iMadper: 嘘。居然让你发现我的真面目了。不要说出来。我还想继续低调地当一个人生赢家呢
[02:28] * kandu 不要脸+吹牛皮专精
[02:28] <BuMangHuo> iMadper: 早 huntxu O0XX|Qiong QiongMangHuo
[02:29] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 早.
[02:32] <huntxu> kandu: 你的光芒太亮眼
[02:32] <huntxu> BuMangHuo: mor~
[02:43] <sjd_zeus> 10:44 -!- Irssi: Unable to connect server irc.ubuntu.com port 8001 [无效的参数]
[02:44] <sjd_zeus> 这种问题各位碰到过吗
[02:44] <sjd_zeus> irssi连接任何irc server都这样
[02:47] <iIlL10Oo> sjd_zeus, 换个端口试试
[02:48] <sjd_zeus> 也一样
[02:49] <iIlL10Oo> sjd_zeus, 换个客户端呢
[02:49] <sjd_zeus> 10:49 -!- Irssi: Unable to connect server irc.ubuntu.com port 6667 [无效的参数]
[02:49] <sjd_zeus> 别的客户端可以
[02:49] <sjd_zeus> 我现在用的是thunderbird里面的聊天插件
[02:49] <iIlL10Oo> sjd_zeus 清空irssi的插件试试
[02:49] <sjd_zeus> xchat也可以
[02:51] <sjd_zeus> 谢谢，果然可以了，将irssi purge掉重新安装了下就可以了
[02:59] <sjd_zeus> 不错,终于弄好了，非常感谢
[03:06] <O0XX|Qiong> iMadper: 早点吃饭?
[03:06] <Niac> 做人生赢家是什么体验啊
[03:06] <iMadper> O0XX|Qiong: .
[03:07] <gfxmode> 擦 一大早被催着改C#
[03:07] <iMadper> gfxmode: 能写c井, 幸福
[03:07] <sjd_zeus> ...
[03:08] <gfxmode> iMadper: 嗯，Windows下的
[03:09] <sjd_zeus_> 有人用deepin的发行版玩耍不？
[03:09] <sjd_zeus_> .
[03:10] <iMadper> gfxmode: 弄个resharper
[03:10] <iMadper> gfxmode: 写起来爽爽的
[03:11] <gfxmode> iMadper: resharper是什么东东，我去看看
[03:12] <iMadper> gfxmode: 恩, resharper是让vs变成梦幻开发工具的插件. 微软内部给所有c#的开发者都购买了resharper.
[03:19] * Ne_To_Rare_ 高薪诚聘魔都理工科娘T，2k/m招募廉价程序猿
[03:21] <sjd_zeus> .
[03:21] <sjd_zeus> test
[03:21] <ubrl> sjd_zeus:点点点. 23:21
[03:39] <^k^> 暂无新帖 讲个笑话吧: 即友善又有钱 : 在泰国玩,当地人即友善又有钱, 因为他们见面第一句话就是:刷我地卡
[03:42] <archl> kandu, 看你有光
[03:49] * Ne_To_Rare 高薪诚聘魔都理工科娘T，2k/m招募廉价程序猿
[03:51] <BuMangHuo> 彩票不买是不行了
[03:53] <archl> BuMangHuo, 买什么股票呀。
[03:53] <BuMangHuo> archl: 彩票
[03:53] <BuMangHuo> archl: 不然房子真没戏啊
[03:54] <archl> BuMangHuo, 。。。要买房子了。壕！
[03:54] <BuMangHuo> archl: 不是要买
[03:54] <BuMangHuo> archl: 是想买
[03:54] <archl> BuMangHuo, 是必须买？因为老婆催着？
[03:54] <BuMangHuo> archl: 没老婆，可是真的不想租房了
[03:55] <hoxily> "高薪诚聘魔都理工科娘T，2k/m招募廉价程序猿"这是啥意思啊？
[03:57] <hoxily> 娘套？
[04:00] * Ne_To_Rare 高薪诚聘魔都理工科娘T，2k/m招募廉价程序猿
[04:01] <^k^> nyfair: 拜牛牛姐
[04:06] <hoxily> nyfair: "高薪诚聘魔都理工科娘T，2k/m招募廉价程序猿"这是啥意思啊？
[04:07] <hbdz17> 难道意思是两千每兆
[04:07] <hbdz17> 23333
[04:15] <archl> 哦每写 2MegaByte 代码，给2000呀。
[04:16] * archl 拜 archl 笨蛋
[04:19] <hbdz17> 真的是这个意思么。。
[04:19] <hbdz17> 我猜的。。。
[04:20] <hbdz17> 这样定量不太科学吧。。。
[04:20] <hbdz17> 可以故意把代码写长啊
[05:04] <sjd_zeus> 可以将又臭又长的网络小说当注释，要多长有多长
[05:04] <sjd_zeus> 一遍写代码一遍写小说
[05:04] <QiongMangHuo> sjd_zeus: 好久不见啊
[05:04] <QiongMangHuo> FJKong: ping
[05:05] <sjd_zeus> QiongMangHuo: 是呀，很久没来irc混了
[05:05] <sjd_zeus> QiongMangHuo: 你是谁的马甲
[05:05] <FJKong> QiongMangHuo: za?
[05:05] <QiongMangHuo> FJKong: pm
[05:07] * sjd_zeus 求推荐好玩的手游，android系统的
[05:11] <iIlL10Oo> sjd_zeus http://www.muzhiwan.com/category/24/new-4-0-1.html
[05:11] <ubrl> ⇪ t: 最新500-1000M安卓大型游戏下载_android安卓手机大型游戏大全_拇指玩
[05:33] <BuMangHuo> 求分享个 babun 到百度盘里面吧。。。
[05:33] <BuMangHuo> 下载了一早上了
[05:33] <QiongMangHuo> babun?
[05:34] <BuMangHuo> QiongMangHuo: 昂，基于 cygwin 的一个 shell
[05:38] <^k^> 暂无新帖 讲个笑话吧: http://xiaohua.zol.com.cn/detail1/8716.html 填表 : 肖恩骑自行车摔伤,得住院治疗,一位年轻美貌的护士拿着表格让他填。肖恩填好,递上表格,"还有什么填漏的?"女护士问。"有,"肖恩想了想说,"我是个单身汉。"
[06:01] <sjd_zeus> 各位，有处理过闰秒的问题吗
[06:02] <iMadper> sjd_zeus: 处理过
[06:03] <sjd_zeus> iMadper: 一般怎么处理思路呢
[06:03] <sjd_zeus> 给科普下
[06:03] <iMadper> sjd_zeus: 我一般都是睡醒了之后, 第二天对着天文台的时间调一下手表.
[06:03] <iMadper> sjd_zeus: 挺简单的
[06:04] <sjd_zeus> iMadper: 我是说服务器碰到闰秒事件的时候如何处理呢
[06:04] <iMadper> sjd_zeus: 不用管.
[06:04] <sjd_zeus> 会自己趟过去？
[06:04] <iMadper> sjd_zeus: ntp呗
[06:04] <iMadper> sjd_zeus: 本来也不会有啥大问题
[06:04] <sjd_zeus> （⊙ｖ⊙）嗯
[06:05] <QiongMangHuo> sjd_zeus: 你要处理干啥?
[06:06] <sjd_zeus> 突然多了一秒，会不会对ORACLE RAC有影响呢
[06:07] <sjd_zeus> 会出现两个一样的时间戳
[06:09] <^k^> 新 初学者园地 - 15.04 • 执行apt-get install upgrade 出错 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=471520 大神帮忙解决谢谢了，执行 apt-get install ugrade 的时候报错了，有没有方式重置下这个包管理器。 sudo apt-get upgrade Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Calculating
[06:09] <^k^> ─> upgrade... Done 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. 4 not fully installed or removed. Afte …
[06:10] <tryit> iMadper, 过几天客串php……
[06:10] <iMadper> tryit: 赞.
[06:10] <iMadper> tryit: 亚一程也是写php的.
[06:10] <iMadper> tryit: 你有亚一程的风范.
[06:11] <iMadper> tryit: 玛莎拉蒂买起
[06:11] <Niac> 那么问题来了 怎么写php才高大上呢
[06:11] * QiongMangHuo 谁有磨豆机啊?
[06:13] <iMadper> Niac: 学亚一程啊
[06:13] <iMadper> Niac: 不干别的, 单纯的写php就从穷鬼变成土豪买玛莎拉蒂
[06:13] <QiongMangHuo> O0XX|Qiong: 转债B昨天下折了?
[06:14] <QiongMangHuo> O0XX|Qiong: 瞬间跌70%据说.......... 恐怖
[06:14] <O0XX|Qiong> QiongMangHuo: 还真是
[06:14] <O0XX|Qiong> QiongMangHuo: 150143的2015-6-29下折计算表。 按照6-29现价买入A/B，分别计算其收益： A: +2.62% B: -79.6% (基本上血本无归)
[06:14] <O0XX|Qiong> QiongMangHuo: 大鳄股神你又玩分级啦?
[06:15] <QiongMangHuo> O0XX|Qiong: 卧槽, 你桌子上有博讯终端么?
[06:15] <QiongMangHuo> O0XX|Qiong: 毛, 我都不懂 不敢碰
[06:15] <O0XX|Qiong> QiongMangHuo: 我桌子上有电脑, 键盘,水杯什么的
[06:15] <O0XX|Qiong> QiongMangHuo: 博讯终端是什么鬼?
[06:15] <QiongMangHuo> O0XX|Qiong: 查的真是太快了...
[06:15] <iMadper> O0XX|Qiong: 查的真是太快了...
[06:16] <O0XX|Qiong> QiongMangHuo: 玩分级我有个厉害的网站
[06:16] <QiongMangHuo> O0XX|Qiong: bloomberg terminal http://www.bloomberg.com/professional/hardware/
[06:16] <ubrl> QiongMangHuo: ⇪ Hardware | Bloomberg Terminal | Bloomberg Finance LP
[06:16] <QiongMangHuo> O0XX|Qiong: http://www.bloomberg.com/professional/
[06:16] <ubrl> QiongMangHuo: ⇪ Bloomberg Professional Service (the Terminal) | Bloomberg Finance LP
[06:17] <QiongMangHuo> O0XX|Qiong: 简言之就是你需要的一切金融信息它都给你搜集索引了
[06:17] <Niac> iMadper: 我只想要奔驰 那学什么好
[06:17] <O0XX|Qiong> QiongMangHuo: 赞, 买买买
[06:17] <iMadper> Niac: 也还是要学亚一程的.
[06:17] <QiongMangHuo> O0XX|Qiong: 年费十几万美元吧
[06:17] <QiongMangHuo> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloomberg_Terminal
[06:17] <ubrl> ⇪ f: Bloomberg Terminal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
[06:17] <O0XX|Qiong> QiongMangHuo: 不贵, 买买买
[06:17] <iMadper> Niac: 毕竟人家是亚一程, 你跟他学, 最多学到亚二程
[06:18] <tryit> iMadper, 我就说了一句客串php，看被你黑得……
[06:18] <iMadper> tryit: 没黑.
[06:19] <iMadper> tryit: 我是真心膜拜能写php的人.
[06:19] <iMadper> tryit: 写php才有可能成为亚一程
[06:20] <O0XX|Qiong> iMadper: 懂得真多
[06:20] <iMadper> O0XX|Qiong: 亚一程应该是谁都知道的吧? 毕竟是亚一程啊
[06:21] <Niac> iMadper: 和鸟哥私房菜的作者是同一人吗
[06:21] <BuMangHuo> 比较俩目录是不是完全一样用啥方式最快? iMadper O0XX|Qiong QiongMangHuo
[06:21] <O0XX|Qiong> BuMangHuo: 左边一个右边一个看
[06:22] <QiongMangHuo> BuMangHuo: diff -r --brief
[06:22] <iMadper> Niac: 不是, 私房菜那个水平中等吧
[06:22] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 都删了, 就一样了.
[06:22] <BuMangHuo> 赞哦
[06:22] <QiongMangHuo> BuMangHuo: 乖
[06:22] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 难道不是find?
[06:22] <BuMangHuo> QiongMangHuo: 其实就是 -qr？
[06:22] <Niac> iMadper: http://www.laruence.com/
[06:23] <ubrl> Niac: ⇪ 风雪之隅-Laruence的博客
[06:23] <QiongMangHuo> BuMangHuo: 母鸡
[06:23] <iMadper> Niac: 对.
[06:23] <Niac> 网名:雪候鸟,大家尊称鸟哥,惠新宸 @Laruence, 是国内最有影响力的 PHP 技术专家,PHP 开发组核心成员,PECL 开发者,Zend 公司外聘顾问。
[06:24] <Niac> iMadper: 我读书少 那三字一样吗
[06:25] <iMadper> Niac: 啥?
[06:25] <Niac> iMadper: 名字
[06:26] <iMadper> Niac: 看不懂你的问题
[06:26] <Niac> iMadper: 不是惠新宸
[06:27] <iMadper> 啥???你在说啥???? 说完整的话, 别蹦词
[06:27] <Niac> iMadper: 鸟哥不是叫
[06:27] <Niac> 惠新宸
[06:27] <Niac> 吗
[06:27] <iMadper> 真费劲, ignore了
[06:28] <iMadper> 亚一程是 "亚洲 第一 程序员" 的缩写
iMadper: 我读书少 那三字一样吗 ==> 我读书少, 亚一程就是惠新宸嘛? <-- 这才是别人能理解的语言.
[06:29] <QiongMangHuo> iMadper: 你就这, 还成天写动态语言呢?
[06:30] <Niac> 语死早 总是词不达意
[06:30] <Niac> 话说语文好 代码好 的 就 只有 王小波吧
[06:35] <BuMangHuo> imadper 在搞大新闻？
[06:38] <^k^> 取新帖 timeout
[07:13] <^k^> 取新帖 timeout
[07:14] <iIlL10Oo> Niac 今天大盘不错
[07:17] <laxtiz> 股市还能玩？
[07:27] <Niac> 不懂 一下跌停 一下涨停
[07:31] <Niac> iIlL10Oo:感觉现在炒股都像搞宗教信仰一样狂热
[07:42] <QiongMangHuo> BuMangHuo: 干, global的path跳的不行, 我抓狂...
[07:46] <iIlL10Oo> Niac 看来股市和楼市一样危险
[07:49] <tryit> QiongMangHuo, gnu global?
[07:49] <QiongMangHuo> tryit: .
[07:51] <tryit> QiongMangHuo, 久仰大名，一直没用过，还是用老的cscope
[07:52] <iMadper`> tryit: 我上周末试了一下rtags
[07:52] <tryit> iMadper`, kernel?
[07:53] <iMadper`> tryit: 对
[07:53] <tryit> iMadper`, and ... ?
[07:53] <iMadper`> tryit: 虽然clang解析gnu的内联汇编有点儿问题
[07:53] <iMadper`> tryit: 但是刨去汇编, 别的都特别精准
[07:53] <QiongMangHuo> BuMangHuo: 不用gtags-cscope了 nnnd 用标准的试试
[07:54] <tryit> iMadper`, 对rtags也是久仰大名，但是觉得这玩意对我来说太复杂了……
[07:54] <QiongMangHuo> tryit: 拜高管
[07:54] <QiongMangHuo> tryit: 解救我
[07:54] <iMadper`> tryit: 不过解析整个AST太费时间了, 生成AST和遍历AST都费时间. 感觉精准度虽然提高了, 但是使用体验下降太多.
[07:54] <^k^> QiongMangHuo: ok tryit => 拜高管
[07:54] <QiongMangHuo> ^k^: 赞
[07:54] <iMadper`> tryit: 拜 深藏不漏内核态网络精通手下小弟如云之低调高管
[07:55] <iMadper> tryit: 拜 深藏不漏内核态网络精通手下小弟如云之低调高管
[07:55] <^k^> iMadper: ok tryit => 拜 深藏不漏内核态网络精通手下小弟如云之低调高管
[07:55] <iMadper> QiongMangHuo: 你不乖. 看我说的多全面.
[07:55] <iMadper> QiongMangHuo: 别覆盖啊
[07:55] <kandu> tryit: 拜 深藏不漏内核态网络精通手下小弟如云之低调高管
[07:56] <HowIsItGoing> tryit: 拜 深藏不漏内核态网络精通手下小弟如云之低调高管
[07:56] <QiongMangHuo> tryit: 拜深藏不漏内核态网络精通手下小弟如云之低调高管
[07:56] <iMadper> ... ... 你们这些跟风的.. 说一遍小k就记住了
[07:56] <QiongMangHuo> iMadper: 我amend一下
[07:56] <^k^> QiongMangHuo: ok tryit => 拜深藏不漏内核态网络精通手下小弟如云之低调高管
[07:59] <sjd_zeus> 小K都被你们玩死了
[07:59] <tryit> iMadper, QiongMangHuo HowIsItGoing 小K都被你们玩死了
[08:15] * sjd_zeus 深藏不漏内核态网络精通手下小弟如云之低调高管 这破玩意，百度都搜不到
[08:17] <hamo> tryit: 拜 深藏不漏内核态网络精通手下小弟如云之低调高管
[08:17] <^k^> hamo: ok tryit => 拜 深藏不漏内核态网络精通手下小弟如云之低调高管
[08:17] <hamo> ^k^: 出来干活啦!
[08:17] <QiongMangHuo> 为毛搞个空格???
[08:17] <O0XX|Qiong> QiongMangHuo: 习惯了
[08:17] <^k^> hamo: 拜心宽体胖侠
[08:18] <gfxmode_> 拜拜拜侠 ^k^
[08:18] <hamo> hamo: 拜 本频道第一大帅哥
[08:18] <gfxmode_> ^k^: 拜拜拜侠
[08:18] <^k^> hamo: ok hamo => 拜 本频道第一大帅哥
[08:19] <gfxmode_> ^k^: ?不理我
[08:19] <QiongMangHuo> http://www.miaopai.com/show/UGcQ6X5-NuxmH~tauA7Ozw__.html 卧槽 吓哭了快
[08:19] <ubrl> QiongMangHuo: ⇪ 一下科技，领先的移动视频技术与服务提供商
[08:19] <QiongMangHuo> hamo: 臭不要脸
[08:23] <hamo> QiongMangHuo: 吓个毛...啥都没找到...你是说男人的躶体吓到你?
[08:23] <hamo> QiongMangHuo: s/找/照
[08:25] <QiongMangHuo> hamo: 没看到跳楼的?
[08:27] <QiongMangHuo> hamo: 这个版块简直赞 http://www.newsmth.net/nForum/#!board/InnerPeace
[08:27] <ubrl> QiongMangHuo: ⇪ 水木社区-源于清华的高知社群
[08:55] <Niac> [B[B[B18 <@^k^> hamo: ok hamo => 拜 本频道第一大帅哥
[08:55] <Niac> [B[B[B16:18 -!- hamo is now known as O0XX|Qiong
[08:55] <Niac> 16:18 -!- O0XX|Qiong is now known as hamo
[08:55] <Niac> [B[B[B16:18 < gfxmode_> ^k^: ?不理我
[08:55] <Niac> 16:18 < QiongMangHuo> http://www.miaopai.com/show/UGcQ6X5-NuxmH~tauA7Ozw__.html 卧槽 吓哭了快
[08:55] <ubrl> Niac: ⇪ 一下科技，领先的移动视频技术与服务提供商
[08:55] <Niac> 16:18 < ubrl> QiongMangHuo: ⇪ 一下科技，领先的移动视频技术与服务提供商
[08:55] <Niac> 16:19 < QiongMangHuo> hamo: 臭不要脸
[08:55] <iIlL10Oo> Niac:. .., 别刷屏，超过6行 大段文字 请贴至paste.ubuntu.com +q 23s
[08:55] <iIlL10Oo> You're not a channel operator * need Op.
[08:56] <Niac> 鼠标滑了
[08:58] <Niac> 求100块钱翻一万倍攻略
[08:59] <QiongMangHuo> Niac: 买把刀抢劫
[09:00] <Niac> QiongMangHuo: 没有更文雅点的做法吗
[09:05] <^k^> 新 系统安装和升级 • Xorg和Systemd怎么都启动了？ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=471527 我现在的版本是15.04，64位，top命令后：xorg、systemd都在列，这是什么机制呢？还是为什么呢？ zz: dfsr — 2015-06-30 17:04
[09:06] <^k^> 新 Python/Php/Perl • Python大神 求救！！ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=471528 leetcode上的一道题： You are climbing a stair case. It takes n steps to reach to the top. Each time you can either climb 1 or 2 steps. In how many distinct ways can you climb to the top? 我想用python写一段用排列组合求解的程序： class Solution: #
[09:06] <^k^> ─> @param {integer} n # @return {integer} def climbStairs(self, n): %%定义f(x)为求n的阶乘函数。 def f(n): c=1 …
[09:31] <hamo> BuMangHuo: 斩斩早
[09:34] <BuMangHuo> hamo: 吃饭吃饭
[09:35] <BuMangHuo> 煎熬呐
[09:35] <BuMangHuo> 这要是有一块牛排吃....
[09:37] <hamo> QiongMangHuo: zhangzhe.wang怎么跳转到weibo去了?
[09:37] <QiongMangHuo> hamo: 母鸡啊
[09:37] <hamo> BuMangHuo: 我也饿了, 要坚持
[09:37] <QiongMangHuo> BuMangHuo: 下班去买牛排~
[09:39] <QiongMangHuo> BuMangHuo: 做好给你发图
[09:41] <QiongMangHuo> hamo: 你的etf买了?
[09:41] <hamo> QiongMangHuo: 没有啊, 说了没子弹了
[09:41] <hamo> QiongMangHuo: 不过有子弹我也不会买
[09:42] <hamo> QiongMangHuo: 没到我自己设定的买入点
[09:42] <QiongMangHuo> 0_0
[09:46] <BuMangHuo> hamo: 昨天破戒了吃了一包小浣熊
[09:46] <BuMangHuo> 今天一定要抗住
[09:46] <hamo> BuMangHuo: 渣渣
[09:47] <BuMangHuo> 我发现我附近的这些外卖都没有西红柿鸡蛋卖
[09:47] <BuMangHuo> 这种菜都没有，咋开馆子
[10:39] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 渣渣
[10:47] <^k^> 暂无新帖 讲个笑话吧: 初生牛犊 : 丈夫:"今后由你来教育儿子。我管他,他根本不听。" 妻子:"别人都伯你,难道儿子不怕?" 丈夫:"我属虎,他属牛,你忘了,'初生牛犊不怕虎'嘛！ "
[10:59] <iLucky> 有人会修手表的吗
[11:04] <Freebuilder> 吼吼
[11:06] <iLucky_> test
[11:06] <ubrl> iLucky_:点点点. 07:06
[11:07] <Freebuilder> http://www.linuxeden.com/html/news/20150630/161620.html
[11:07] <ubrl> ⇪ f: 小米路由器劫持用户浏览器事件始末_Linux伊甸园开源社区-24小时滚动更新开源资讯，全年无休！
[11:07] <iLucky_> ubrl: 怎么变成你了
[11:08] <ubrl> iLucky_,
[12:17] <gfxmode_> 前天去IKEA吃牛排，竟然卖光了
[13:06] <^k^> 新 系统安装和升级 • 打算升级15.04内核，各位有什么建议？ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=471529 15.04 64位的，关机之时僵住，外国人说那叫Freez，反正两个多月了一直得断电来关机。 外国人说他把内核改为3.16解决了（碰到这个问题不只我，人品保住了），我想升级到4.0试试，
[13:06] <^k^> ─> 各位有什么高见？ zz: dfsr — 2015-06-30 21:05
[13:19] <Freebuilder> 吼吼
[13:19] <Freebuilder> 洗澡去
[13:27] <Freebuilder> 自由鸟李建军
[13:28] <Freebuilder> ?
[14:49] <^k^> 暂无新帖 讲个笑话吧: 竟然是图片 http://i2.xiaohua.fd.zol-img.com.cn/t_s600x5000/g4/M04/0B/00/Cg-4WlI2p7-IZmelAADb2kom2zkAALrOgB6GcMAANvy598.jpg 这才是真正的高脚杯啊.美女酒量不错嘛
[14:50] <^k^> 新 字体美化和中文支持 • gtk3主题修改问题 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=471531 网上看到主题修改的教程，自己下载了个主题试着改。可是下载的主题有个问题一直找不到在哪，求大神指点。 如图gedit的tab栏的右边是黑色的，而那个unity tweak tool的tab栏右边是正常的，所以我去
[14:50] <^k^> ─> 找notebook tab的各个项但是没有效果，求应该怎么修改。 主题是Numix Light，ubuntu的版本是14 …
[15:05] <onlylove> happyaron: 除开华为的荣耀6PLUS，有啥好的双通手机推荐不
[15:17] <yunfan_> onlylove: 还是买华为的mate7吧 电池大 续航不错 我是等d6000
[15:17] <onlylove> yunfan_: mate7是双通么？我看了不少机器，都是双待单通的
[15:18] <onlylove> yunfan_: 我怕万一打电话忘了时间容易误事
[15:18] <onlylove> yunfan_: 看了好多机器，貌似就华为有双通的
[15:23] <yunfan_> onlylove: 我看双待就行了 双通没啥意义 你又不可能同时跟两个人说话 总是要一个人等的
[15:24] <onlylove> yunfan_: 至少我知道有人在等，如果是单通的话，你打电话，另一个SIM卡待机都不能吧？直接无法接通
[15:26] <onlylove> 诶，我还是继续俩手机吧
[15:33] <onlylove> yunfan_: 华为P7移动版是单卡的，略可惜
[15:34] <yunfan_> onlylove: 无法接通就无法接通呗 真有急事 不能发个短信或者过一下再打 我反正没有矫情的朋友 不在乎这些
[15:34] <yunfan_> onlylove: 单卡确实戳
[15:35] <onlylove> yunfan_: 其实无所谓的，主要是我想留俩号，也许哪天回家了，就把外地号丢了
[17:19] <gebjgd> knownbad, 上班呢？
[17:19] <gebjgd> knownbad, 没和你老婆渡假去？
[23:24] <Lattice> Chat
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ubuntu-chat
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| 2015-06-30T00:00:00 |
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"FJKong",
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"O0XX|Qiong",
"QiongMangHuo",
"^k^",
"archl",
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"huntxu",
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2015-06-30-#ubuntu-app-devel
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[00:47] <kenvandine> ahayzen, cool!
[07:08] <dholbach> good morning
[07:17] <Aviation> Hello
[07:24] <davidcalle> Good morning o/
[17:16] <jrbt> What is "better" to make? An app or a scope?
[17:27] <brendand> jrbt, a scope, if it fits your apps design
[18:30] <jrbt> Hey!
[18:31] <jrbt> What is the basics to create a native project in QML + JavaScript on Ubuntu SDK?
[18:33] <jrbt> I have created a "QML App with Simple UI (qmlproject)", now I plug my ubuntu touch phone and I am creating a kit
[18:36] <kenvandine> jrbt, that's the first step
[18:37] <jrbt> Ok, kenvandine so "QML App with Simple UI (qmlproject)" is right to a native app (ubuntu touch)?
[18:37] <kenvandine> yeah
[18:38] <jrbt> Cool. The "hello... ...world" run well on my pc, I am trying to run it on my phone.
[18:38] <kenvandine> :)
[18:38] <jrbt> (It has required a kit install)
[18:40] <bzoltan_> jrbt: while you create the kits :) I suggest these blog posts to read https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/blog/2015/03/18/everything-you-always-wanted-know-about-kits-were-afraid-ask/ and https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/blog/2015/04/13/inner-workings-sdk/
[18:48] <jrbt> Ok, thanks bzoltan_
[19:46] <jrbt> hello.
[19:47] <jrbt> I have had a problem with my kit installation
[19:47] <jrbt> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11800963/
[19:47] <jrbt> so it is not installed :(
[20:37] <jrbt> anyone?
[20:58] <jrbt> Well, can I test my app without arm kit?
[20:58] <jrbt> I have the "Desktop" (default) kit and my phone plug with developer mode enabled
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"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"Aviation",
"brendand",
"bzoltan_",
"davidcalle",
"dholbach",
"jrbt",
"kenvandine"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/06/30/%23ubuntu-app-devel.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-app-devel"
}
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2015-06-30-#ubuntu-devel
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[04:40] <pitti> Good morning
[04:44] <Unit193> Howdy.
[04:57] <robert_ancell> pitti, if you were looking to delete more packages I noticed that gnomescan is no longer in Debian and seems effectively dead upstream. So could be cleaned out of wily.
[04:59] <pitti> robert_ancell: simple-scan FTW!
[05:00] <robert_ancell> pitti, yeah, I feel a bit biased proposing deleting it... :)
[05:00] <pitti> oh, gnome-scan
[05:01] <pitti> robert_ancell: *flush*, it's gone
[05:04] <pitti> hallyn, mbiebl: I replied to your patch on the lxc ML (might be moderated, but I CC'ed hallyn)
[07:08] <dholbach> good morning
[07:41] <jamespage> any chance an archive admin could accepted python-oslo.service into wily? its a sync from debian experimental
[07:44] <pitti> jamespage: done; will check in a bit for the binaries
[07:44] <jamespage> pitti, thankyou
[07:44] * jamespage goes to raise a MIR :-)
[11:58] <GunnarHj> darkxst: ping?
[11:59] <darkxst> GunnarHj, hey
[12:00] <GunnarHj> darkxst: Sure, I can try to adapt the latest fixes in gnome-desktop3 to 3.16. Is the upstream code in a PPA somewhere?
[12:01] <darkxst> GunnarHj, I uploaded it to gnome3-staging/wily
[12:02] <GunnarHj> darkxst: Aha, now I see it. Will do it later today.
[12:03] <darkxst> GunnarHj, was pretty calm this cycle for gnome-desktop, may just apply as is if your lucky ;)
[12:04] <GunnarHj> darkxst: Yeah, hopefully I am. :)
[12:22] <darkxst> GunnarHj, also g-c-c in bug 1466245
[12:22] <darkxst> that will be a little tricker I dropped a bunch of code from the languages patch
[12:25] <GunnarHj> darkxst: Ack. Will look at g-c-c too.
[12:27] <darkxst> GunnarHj, thanks!
[12:57] <jamespage> cjwatson, hey - coreycb and I have started to document our workflow using git on launchpad here - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/OpenStackPackaging
[12:57] <jamespage> thought you might be interested
[13:05] <cjwatson> jamespage: Definitely, thanks - looks largely sensible. Any reason you're recommending named repositories (i.e. with the trailing /+git/liberty-1) for contributors?
[13:06] <jamespage> cjwatson, that may just be us feeling our way through how things work
[13:06] <jamespage> cjwatson, that's what coreycb did for his proposed changes for our first milestone this cycle
[13:07] <cjwatson> You normally only need to use named repositories as a contributor if you have some unusual requirement that causes you to have to use multiple repositories for your contributions, rather than just lots of branches in one repository.
[13:07] <cjwatson> We're expecting that just /~USER/TARGET is the normal case.
[13:07] <jamespage> we can try that and see how it works
[13:08] <jamespage> the awkward bit right now is having to propose three branches for a new upstream release
[13:08] <coreycb> cjwatson, thanks. I think I got that from the Repository URLs section of https://help.launchpad.net/Code/Git
[13:08] <cjwatson> coreycb: That documents all the available forms, but you don't have to use them :-)
[13:09] <cjwatson> coreycb: It does explicitly say that the common case is the owner-default repository, although maybe we should make it clearer and less jargony ...
[13:09] <cjwatson> (common case for contributors, that is)
[13:10] <coreycb> cjwatson, ok I'll try it out shortly
[13:12] <cjwatson> jamespage,coreycb: Anyway, this is a minor-ish point, glad the rest seems to be broadly OK for you. Have you run into any other oddnesses with Git-based MPs?
[13:13] <cjwatson> We aren't quite at the point of using them for Launchpad itself, but pretty close
[13:14] <coreycb> cjwatson, just the bit on proposing a merge as jamespage mentioned. something command line based would be nice, and having the ability to propose all branch changes in one command would be nice too.
[13:16] <cjwatson> coreycb: That definitely gets into specific policy, but it should be easily doable using launchpadlib
[13:16] <cjwatson> git_ref.createMergeProposal is exported
[13:20] <coreycb> cjwatson, good to know, thanks
[14:59] <pitti> chrisccoulson: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/oxide-qt/1.7.9-0ubuntu0.15.04.1 alert
[14:59] <pitti> chrisccoulson: you SRUed a newer version into vivid without also updating wily, can you please do that too?
[15:00] <chrisccoulson> pitti, yeah, I'm aware of that. I can't actually upload it myself
[15:10] <pitti> chrisccoulson: ah, you got sponsored? do you still remember who did that?
[15:12] <chrisccoulson> pitti, no, these are copied from the security PPA, which I can do
[15:12] <chrisccoulson> The wily upload is being sponsored right now
[15:12] <pitti> chrisccoulson: ah, thanks
[16:10] <chrisccoulson> pitti, it's uploaded now :)
[16:10] <pitti> chrisccoulson: thansk!
[16:59] <cyphermox> ubuntu
[16:59] <cyphermox> haah sorry :)
[17:00] <ogra_> now we know your password !
[17:00] <cyphermox> well, only the password to this VM that I keep reinstalling to test multipath :)
[17:00] <ogra_> yeah, thats what i would say as well now :P
[17:01] <cyphermox> at least I suffix this with an s to make it more secure on my desktop
[17:01] <ogra_> heh
[17:01] <highvoltage> lol
[17:04] <mdeslaur> cyphermox: wth, you use my laptop password as your vm password?
[17:04] <cyphermox> yup
[17:04] <cyphermox> great minds thing alike.
[17:08] <davmor2> cyphermox: ubuntu isn't the safest password here use mine Ubuntu see the capital U much safer with that there ;)
[17:09] <jpds> davmor2: I use "ubunut' these days.
[17:10] <davmor2> jpds: man you just the king of password
[17:10] <ogra_> you could add double security and use "Ubunut"
[17:11] <davmor2> ogra_: you're just trying to steal jpds 's password thunder
[17:11] <ogra_> ssshhhh
[17:11] <jrwren> people use passwords?
[17:12] <jrwren> ah, nevermind. my ssh key has a password :)
[17:13] <davmor2> I bet it is really secure something like hunter2
[17:14] <davmor2> I'm so glad that IRC hides you're passwords and ogra_ told me all about it :)
[17:14] <ogra_> yeah, the backlog above is full of ****** everywhere !
[17:15] <mdeslaur> and here I just changed mine from "os2forever" not too long ago
[17:16] <ogra_> even more ********** !
[17:58] <davmor2> ogra_: hahaha nicely played good sir nicely played :)
[17:58] <jrwren> http://shetterly.blogspot.com/2012/04/expanded-stephen-fry-on-being-offended.html
[17:59] <davmor2> ogra_: be careful on how you copy and paste those ************* though you might not like what it says to you ;)
[18:00] <jrwren> sorry, misdir
[19:39] <tkamppeter> jdstrand, hi
[19:43] <sarnold> tkamppeter: jamie's out for the week
[19:44] <tkamppeter> mdeslaur, hi
[19:45] <mdeslaur> tkamppeter: hi
[19:46] <tkamppeter> mdeslaur, it is about bug 1455644, it is a MIR for ippusbxd, the IPP-over-USB printer daemon. I have posted it some weeks ago, jdstrand has assigned it to himself and then nothing happened any more.
[19:46] <mdeslaur> tyhicks: that's for you ^
[19:47] <tkamppeter> mdeslaur, probably he has taken it to check security aspects. Now jdstrand is on vacation. Can you have a look.
[19:47] <mdeslaur> tkamppeter: tyhicks will assign it to someone
[19:48] <tkamppeter> mdeslaur, thanks.
[20:32] <tyhicks> sorry, I must have missed the irc notification
[20:40] <tyhicks> tkamppeter: hi - I've now added that MIR to our backlog tracker
[20:41] <tyhicks> tkamppeter: note that there are a few other MIR security audits (and some other work) ahead of it
[20:56] <tkamppeter> tyhicks, thanks, but it will get done before FF?
[20:59] <tyhicks> tkamppeter: hopefully but we can still promote packages to main after FF
[21:35] <barry> cjwatson: you wouldn't happen to still be around would you?
[21:58] <hallyn> is there a set of tools to script the updating of /etc/pam/* files from packages?
[22:00] <sarnold> there's a pam-auth-update, I've never used it myself though..
[22:00] <cjwatson> barry: yeah, sort of, late meeting
[22:07] <barry> cjwatson: ah, thanks. question: the order of entries in /etc/apt/sources.lists matters when searching for a package to install, with entries in /etc/apt.sources.d/* coming after sources.list... right? do the ppas set those repos up to prefer packages from the ppa if the versions class with archive versions? and if so, how? (trying to reproduce locally) or am i on crack?
[22:08] <barry> *clash
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:39.160730
| 2015-06-30T00:00:00 |
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"GunnarHj",
"Unit193",
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"cjwatson",
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"darkxst",
"davmor2",
"dholbach",
"hallyn",
"highvoltage",
"jamespage",
"jpds",
"jrwren",
"mdeslaur",
"ogra_",
"pitti",
"robert_ancell",
"sarnold",
"tkamppeter",
"tyhicks"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/06/30/%23ubuntu-devel.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-devel"
}
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2015-06-30-#ubuntu-installer
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[13:45] <Teduardo> every time i attempt to install ubuntu on this server it kernel panics with a bunch of apic/cpuidle messages. is there something i need to disable in the bios?
[13:53] <cjwatson> Teduardo: #ubuntu-kernel is more likely to know about kernel questions
[13:53] <cjwatson> Teduardo: Also, in answer to your question the other day, #debian-boot exists on OFTC and is the installer channel
[13:53] <cjwatson> (for historical reasons - the installer used to be called "boot-floppies")
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:39.162339
| 2015-06-30T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"Teduardo",
"cjwatson"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/06/30/%23ubuntu-installer.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-installer"
}
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2015-06-30-#ubuntu-ops
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[08:57] <k1l> seems like "his children" were writing again......
[08:59] <bazhang> he's been doing that for a couple of years now; get banned in the -it chan, rush to ubuntu, etc etc
[09:00] <k1l> yep
[16:36] <Pici> k1l_: looks like they are banned there...
[16:38] <k1l_> hmm
[21:10] <k1l_> !flavors
[21:10] <k1l_> i bet popey would like to see matebuntu on it too :)
[21:11] <Unit193> Noooo, we don't like mate!
[21:12] <popey> !mate
[21:12] <popey> stupid bot
[21:26] <Unit193> Wonderful bot! :---D
heollo mdo i just bunn whit braseo a image to make it butable
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:39.164751
| 2015-06-30T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"Pici",
"Unit193",
"bazhang",
"k1l",
"k1l_",
"popey"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/06/30/%23ubuntu-ops.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-ops"
}
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2015-06-30-#ubuntu-us-oh
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[17:00] <dzho> once again I've "upgraded" Ubuntu and don't know if the new behavior I'm seeing is a bug or a feature
[17:00] <dzho> the left-hand launcher is mostly gone, to be replaced by an "activities" button that brings up something launcher-like
[17:00] <dzho> is this normal?
[17:01] <yano> wait a second
[17:01] <yano> :o
[17:02] <yano> dzho: did you and i just have a convo on another network?
[17:02] <dzho> totes, bro
[17:03] <dzho> yano
[17:06] <yano> whoa, neat
[17:07] <dzho> the Internet, how does it work
[17:07] <dzho> :-)
[17:07] <yano> ikr? heh
[17:08] <dzho> anyway, alt-tab still does some stuff, just...very differently than it had done, which is very disappointing to find in an LTS
[17:08] <dzho> for instance, repeated applications of Alt-tab do not walk me through my windows any more. I get one run through, and that's it, and it doesn't descend into my multiple browser windows for instance.
[17:14] <dzho> oh, haha, I'll bet I know what happened.
[17:15] <dzho> I bet during the upgrade and reboots, the login manager forgot my desktop preference and shoved me into GNOME
[17:15] <dzho> damnit
[17:16] <dzho> ahahahahaha, that was it
[17:16] <dzho> shows you how often I use GNOME
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:39.167614
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{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"dzho",
"yano"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/06/30/%23ubuntu-us-oh.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-us-oh"
}
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2015-06-30-#bzr
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[15:52] <throstur> if I check out a bzr repository inside a folder which is in a bzr repository, how do I say "bzr update the repository I just checked out, not the `big one`" ?
[15:53] <LeoNerd> Uhhm... "inside" ?
[15:53] <throstur> imagine /foo/ is a bzr repo and CWD is /foo/bar/baz
[15:53] <throstur> and I check out a different bzr repository there
[15:53] <LeoNerd> Do you mean repository? I suspect you don't.
[15:53] <LeoNerd> You probably mean branch
[15:54] <throstur> I mean repository
[15:54] <LeoNerd> A "repository" is not a thing that one checks out.
[15:54] <LeoNerd> Branches are checked out
[15:55] <throstur> ok, whatever, it's something I 'bzr export'ed
[15:55] <LeoNerd> Uhm.
[15:55] <throstur> but now I want to bzr commit it
[15:55] <throstur> the changes I made
[15:55] <LeoNerd> OK well if it's exported, the exported copy lacks all of the metadata
[15:55] <LeoNerd> That being the point of an export :)
[15:55] <throstur> Ah, okay, I see
[15:55] <LeoNerd> 'bzr export' creates a snapshot of the controlled files at some moment in time, minus all the control information.
[15:55] <throstur> ahh, okay
[15:55] <LeoNerd> Useful for making release tarballs and such
[15:56] <throstur> okay, then I'm thinking about this the wrong way
[15:59] <LeoNerd> If you have some edited files, you could copy them into place over a new checkout, and then you'll see the differences by 'bzr diff', and you can commit as usual
[16:01] <throstur> yeah but then I have to actually check out the whole thing with metadata
[16:02] <throstur> I'm kind of afraid of doing that, last time I repacked I think I truncated some 30 GB away
[16:11] <throstur> or maybe that was with removing obsolete packs, I'll see what the boss wants
[17:39] <throstur> ok, so what if I want to check out the repository and update a single file?
[17:40] <LeoNerd> Surely: checkout, update, commit...?
[17:41] <LeoNerd> But again: it's "branches" that one checks out, not repositories
[17:41] <throstur> but how do I make sure I'm working on the right branch or whatever?
[17:41] <LeoNerd> By the URL you check out
[17:42] <LeoNerd> URLs specify a branch
[17:42] <throstur> ok, so normally I do "bzr export foo -r revno:-1 bzr://url.goes.here/path/to/repo"
[17:43] <throstur> instead I would replace export with checkout?
[17:43] <LeoNerd> bzr checkout bzr://....
[17:43] <throstur> (and leave out -r revno)
[17:43] <LeoNerd> Again, that's not a "repo". that's a branch
[17:43] <LeoNerd> You gave it a path to a *branch*
[17:43] <throstur> right
[17:43] <LeoNerd> If you happen to have named it using the word "repo" then that's just a bit confusing. ;) It is a branch.
[17:43] <throstur> roger that
[17:46] <LeoNerd> (the distinction lies in that normally, when you create a new branch somewhere, bzr will create a repository at the same location to store it in. So *normally* it's correct to say that both the branch and the repository live there)
[17:46] <LeoNerd> But nonetheless, it is the branch that almost all operations act on
[17:47] <throstur> so how do I specify that I'm working on THIS repository and branch and not the one that starts in ../../..
[17:49] <LeoNerd> Hrm?
[17:49] <LeoNerd> Branches don't nest
[17:49] <LeoNerd> If there's a branch at that location, then that's the branch. Period.
[17:50] <LeoNerd> It's not like e.g. in SVN, wherein you can check out any subtree of the (SVN) repository
[17:50] <LeoNerd> In bzr, if you've checked out the branch, then the branch arrives as one big atomic lump, with subdirectory structure of files. But that's still one atomic *thing* as far as bzr is concerned
[17:55] <throstur> does checkout always take much longer than export?
[17:56] <LeoNerd> It has to create the entire local copy of the branch in *addition* to a local snapshot of the files, so yes. that's expected
[17:56] <throstur> but LeoNerd, I've already checked out a branch. If I type bzr update, I start updating something. Now I type bzr checkout bzr://... and it starts checking something else out. Now if I type bzr update, what am I updating?
[17:57] <LeoNerd> Uhm..
[17:57] <throstur> is it not possible to push a single file to be merged remotely?
[17:57] <LeoNerd> bzr checkout creates a branch new set of things locally on your disk
[17:57] <LeoNerd> You'd usually do that into a brand new empty directory
[17:57] <LeoNerd> *brand new
[17:57] <throstur> like I'm literally on the 4th GB fetching revisions and I'm trying to add a 4kb file
[17:58] <LeoNerd> If you already had it checked out, why are you checking it out a second time? :)
[17:58] <throstur> it was only exported
but LeoNerd, I've already checked out a branch. If I type bzr update, I start updating something. Now I type bzr checkout bzr://... <== I see "checked out" at the beginning
[17:58] <LeoNerd> An export is not a checkout
[17:58] <throstur> yes, that's not the same branch
[17:58] <throstur> or repo
[17:59] <LeoNerd> Again: an export is a snapshot of the current content, minus all of the control information and any history and any metadata sufficient to create and commit new revisions
[17:59] <LeoNerd> If you want to create new revisions (which from "and I'm trying to add a 4kb file" it sounds like you do), then you will need a checkout. Not an export
[18:00] <throstur> I'm on server A that has repository A checked out in folder A. I'm actually in folder A/foo/bar/baz and if I bzr update I update *something* (in this case, definitely repo A). NOW I check out repository B (whatever branch I don't know there is only one branch afaiac) and I want to work with B, but if I type bzr update, *something* will get updated, but I have no idea what
[18:00] <LeoNerd> OK.. so if bzr update can do something,. then you do have a local checkout
[18:00] <LeoNerd> Just typ bzr info to see what you have
[18:01] <throstur> ah okay
[18:01] <throstur> so if I'm writing this as a part of a library (don't ask why) I can just parse bzr info for "branch root: ." to ensure I'm in the *right* bracnh
[18:02] <throstur> or rather, that i'm working in the bzr repository that I want to be working in, and not the one that I shouldn't be touching
[18:02] <throstur> or I could check the bound to branch thing... that might be smarter
[18:02] <LeoNerd> You could. (though also be aware of bzrlib, if you're writing this in python, as using the lib is nicer than trying to parse command output intended for humans)
[18:02] <throstur> gosh though... a full checkout... I'm only up to 6 GB :(
[18:03] <LeoNerd> You might be able to get away with a lightweight checkout. I forget quite what those involve and what they lack
[18:03] <throstur> does bzr lib work for python 2.6.6?
[18:03] <LeoNerd> I'd hope so
[18:04] <throstur> oh yeah
[18:04] <throstur> I remember that, no history
[18:04] <throstur> it's like 20Gb smaller
[18:04] <throstur> thanks for reminding me :D
[18:06] <throstur> wow that took so much less time, 1.6 GB and almost done
[18:06] <LeoNerd> History isn't cheap ;)
[18:29] <throstur> looks like when I commit from python it doesn't work but when I commit from bash it works
[18:30] <throstur> from python it tries to commit to "the other" repo
[18:30] <throstur> actually I'm wrong, it just things the file isn't versioned
[18:30] <throstur> but it is
[18:31] <throstur> oh lol
[18:31] <throstur> it's because I chdir one dir up
[18:31] <throstur> to be in the right repo
[18:32] <throstur> how do I bzr commit to ./this_thing instead of cd this_thing bzr commit ../path/to/file
[18:53] <throstur> thx4the help I g2g got a workaround going, will see if it breaks something overnight
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:39.173209
| 2015-06-30T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"LeoNerd",
"throstur"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/06/30/%23bzr.txt",
"channel": "#bzr"
}
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2015-06-30-#ubuntu-no
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[20:53] <AndyOslo> Hmm, liker ikke at jeg ikke får kontakt med Pi'en hjemme
[23:19] <RoyK> AndyOslo: du får dra hjem og banke liv i den ;)
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:39.175971
| 2015-06-30T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"AndyOslo",
"RoyK"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/06/30/%23ubuntu-no.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-no"
}
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2015-06-30-#ubuntu-cm
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[10:27] <qwebirc34871> bonjour
[10:27] <qwebirc34871> un question
[10:28] <qwebirc34871> comment rejoindre un autre salon irc a patir de celui en cours d'utilisation
[10:28] <qwebirc34871> merci davance pour vos reponse
[10:30] <ongolaBoy> bonjour
[10:31] <ongolaBoy> toutes les commandes commencent par '/' que tu saisis dans la barre de tchat
[10:31] <ongolaBoy> exemple si tu veux changer ton nom tu tapes '/nick mon.Pseudo'
[10:31] <ongolaBoy> ça changera qwebirc34871 en _mon.Pseudo_
[10:32] <ongolaBoy> si tu veux changer de salon tu tapes '/join #nomDuSalonIrc' et ça t'amènera dans le salon que tu souhaites
[10:34] <Akhenaton> merci willy pour le coup de main
[11:01] <ongolaBoy> Akhenaton: de rien.. je vois que tu me connais
[11:02] <Akhenaton> patrick kouobou pour vous servir boss
[11:19] <ongolaBoy> ok :) Bienvenue
[11:30] <Akhenaton> oohhh jy sui depuis deja deux ans mais sous un autre nom parfois avec le nom que la plateforme m'attribue automatiquement
[11:42] <ariabbas> .
[13:04] <abakamousa> bonjour tout le monde
[13:06] <ongolaBoy> bonjour abakamousa
[13:06] <indy21> bonjour
[13:09] <abakamousa> quelqu'un pourrait il avoir une idée sur le pourquoi des copies de grande taille (plus de 80 giga ) sur ubuntu plante toujours la machine
[13:56] <indy21> abakamousa : tu utilise quelle version de ubuntu ?
[14:30] <Akhenaton> c'est la même question que j'allait le lui démandé mais il s'est déconnecté
[14:31] <Akhenaton> a savoir la distribution qu'il utilise
[14:31] <Akhenaton> et la version
[14:32] <Akhenaton> indy21 y'aurait il une solution a son pb
[14:35] <indy21> ca peut etre lié au systeme de fichiers qu'il utilise
[14:37] <Akhenaton> ext3? ou ext4?
[14:39] <indy21> Akhenaton: pas vraiment. plutôt une copie sur une partition qui est en fat32.
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:39.181645
| 2015-06-30T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"Akhenaton",
"abakamousa",
"ariabbas",
"indy21",
"ongolaBoy",
"qwebirc34871"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/06/30/%23ubuntu-cm.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-cm"
}
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2015-06-30-#launchpad
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[16:29] <Robe> is there an easy/automated way to trigger cross-release builds of already existing packages in ubuntu?
[16:30] <Robe> for example I would need an utopic version of libcurl3 built for trusty
[16:31] <dobey> the "copy packages" feature in launchpad?
[16:33] <Robe> not sure if I can copy arbitrary packages from universe/multiverse
[16:35] <cjwatson> You can.
[16:35] <cjwatson> It's possible from the web UI, but kind of hidden and awkward; but you can use copy-package from lp:ubuntu-archive-tools
[16:37] <cjwatson> (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+copy-packages, search for the package you want to copy, wade through list of PPAs you have upload access to ... personally I'd rather the command-line client any day)
[16:37] <cjwatson> Also backportpackage is a somewhat more specialised tool that may be more appropriate, especially if you want builds for more than one series
[16:38] <cjwatson> It's in the ubuntu-dev-tools package
[16:38] <Robe> backportpackage would allow me to simultaneously copy/build the package for multiple target releases?
[16:38] <cjwatson> It can deal with rebuilding the package with a different version
[16:38] <Robe> gotcha
[16:38] <cjwatson> Which you need if you're going to build it for more than one release
[16:39] <Robe> currently bitten by http://curl.haxx.se/mail/lib-2015-03/0111.html which seems to be unadressed in trusty libcurl3
[16:40] <bdmurray> cjwatson: is there a list of valid characters that would appear in a Launchpad username and PPA?
[16:41] <cjwatson> bdmurray: Both of those are valid_name, which is re.compile(r"^[a-z0-9][a-z0-9\+\.\-]+$")
[16:43] <bdmurray> cjwatson: got it, thanks!
[16:50] <Robe> cjwatson: thanks, awkward is a fitting description :D
[16:52] <cjwatson> +copy-packages is OK for copies between PPAs, but for copies from the primary archive it would really want a rather different design. Which is pretty much why that page isn't linked from anywhere.
[16:52] <Robe> hope I haven't broken anything
[16:52] <Robe> gah, google redirector broken again
[16:53] <cjwatson> Did you use backportpackage?
[16:53] <Robe> nah, +copy-packages
[16:53] <Robe> just to see if it works
[16:53] <cjwatson> Well, I hope you listened to my caveats :)
[16:53] <Robe> absolutely
[16:53] <Robe> launchpad.net down?
[16:54] <cjwatson> Works from here
[16:54] <Robe> hrm, cdn/proxy then
[16:55] <Robe> what's the way to go install the archive tools?
[16:55] <Robe> just clone the bzr repo?
[16:55] <Robe> +to
[16:58] <cjwatson> bzr branch lp:ubuntu-archive-tools
[16:58] <cjwatson> But like I say, I think you actually want backportpackage for this
[16:59] <cjwatson> Which is in "apt install ubuntu-dev-tools"
[17:01] <Robe> ok
[17:02] <Robe> can you tell me what caused https://launchpadlibrarian.net/210358718/buildlog_ubuntu-trusty-amd64.curl_7.37.1-1ubuntu3.4_BUILDING.txt.gz to fail?
[17:02] <Robe> seems like it wanted to pull in the librtmp-dev version it was built against in utopic
[17:02] <Robe> despite it being unversioned in the build dependencies
[17:03] <Robe> (debian/control)
[17:05] <dobey> that doesn't look unversioned to me
[17:06] <dobey> https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/utopic/curl/utopic-security/view/head:/debian/control
[17:06] <cjwatson> Yeah, that stuff is taken exclusively from debian/control
[17:07] <Robe> GAH
[17:07] <Robe> never mind, had the trusty changes.gz unpacked
[17:07] <Robe> sorry
[17:08] <cjwatson> (Well, actually from the .dsc, but that's built from debian/control)
[17:12] <Robe> does ubuntu-branches offer a code viewer for all packages of all releases?
[17:21] <cjwatson> Robe: Only when it works, which a lot of the time it doesn't.
[17:23] <Robe> cjwatson: haha, fair enough :)
[17:23] <Robe> thanks for your time
[17:25] <cjwatson> Ultimately the plan is to bring up a similar thing in git which is very likely to be more reliable, but that doesn't exist yet.
[17:26] <Robe> *nods*
[17:26] <Robe> with debian I usually click through from tracker.d.o to the respective vcs repo when there's a hint
[17:26] <Robe> was just wondering if there's something similar for ubuntu
[17:45] <chrisccoulson> Is there a known issue with launchpad? I tried to file a bug at https://bugs.launchpad.net/oxide/+filebug, and I've just got the "Uh oh! Something has gone wrong..." page
[17:45] <chrisccoulson> (browsing through bugs before this kept timing out too)
[17:46] <teward> popped up immediately for me...
[17:46] <chrisccoulson> It seems intermittent for me. I've just tried to resubmit my bug, and it worked
[18:24] <bdmurray> I'm getting a 503 error with bazaar.launchpad.net
[18:34] <cjwatson> Robe: Yeah, I'd very much like to have that more consistently, but we're a ways off (ironically)
[18:34] <cjwatson> chrisccoulson,bdmurray: I believe there've been some intra-DC networking problems ...
[18:35] <cjwatson> Prevailing theory seems to be that it's fallout from initial sync of a new cdimage.u.c frontend
[18:39] <chrisccoulson> cjwatson, thanks
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2015-06-30-#kubuntu
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[02:33] <finetundra> hello all, can you get to the wallpaper changer from kickoff?
[04:30] <abdullah> hi
[04:30] <abdullah> sleeping?
[04:30] <abdullah> all of you?
[04:31] <abdullah> hey vbgunz
[04:31] <abdullah> hello
[04:31] <abdullah> hello
[04:32] <vbgunz> hello
[04:33] <abdullah> how u doing
[04:33] <abdullah> why non answering
[04:33] <abdullah> what r u doing guys
[04:35] <vbgunz> I just got here, I don't spend much time looking at the conversation here when it's dead
[04:35] <vbgunz> dead as in quiet, it's pretty quiet right now
[04:36] <abdullah> quiet? it's completely dead
[04:36] <abdullah> are u programmer or something?
[04:53] <bshah> if you have question feel free to ask..
[04:53] <bshah> thats how IRC work..
[04:53] <bshah> mm he lef
[04:53] <bshah> mm he left
[05:54] <michael_p> hi i am still having the same issue
[05:54] <michael_p> i ran the systemctl and it still apears
[05:55] <babu_> hi
[05:55] <babu_> can anyone tell me which one is best apt-get or aptitude?
[05:56] <michael_p> babu what version are you on
[05:58] <babu_> hi
[05:59] <babu_> can anyone tell me whish one is best apt-get or aptitude?
[05:59] <michael_p> i just apt-get
[06:01] <babu_> and best opensource firewall?
[06:04] <hateball> !firewall
[06:08] <michael_p> could 219 be refering to video drivers
[06:25] <michael_p> i hope 15:10 dosnt have the same problem
[06:27] <michael_p> should i use my own video drivers
[06:28] <michael_p> or third party
[06:48] <michael_p> i think this room is dead
[06:51] <Tm_T> michael_p: patience is a virtue (:
[07:39] <valorie> michael_p: what do you mean "your own"?
[07:40] <valorie> in general, driver manager will suggest the best drivers for your equipment
[08:15] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:42] <michael_p> <valorie i mean i have nvidia .run
[08:42] <michael_p> or should i use 3rd party
[08:50] <michael_p> with me sometimes thats not allways the case
[08:51] <michael_p> the only one that works is edgers or my own but thats on a diffrent version
[08:51] <michael_p> with edgers i got no cuda
[09:23] <michael_p> should i downgrade to 14:04
[09:30] <mparillo> If you really hate Plasma 5, or something worked on 14.04 that still does not work now, sure. Otherwise, why make the effort?
[09:31] <michael_p> just the bug
[09:31] <michael_p> and plus if i am going to ise one ogf the drivers i need something to fall back on
[09:34] <michael_p> i ment if the drivers on the new diesktop dont work
[09:46] <mparillo> If the drivers work on 14.04, then sure. But when you say downgrade, what you really mean is save your data, and install. There is no automagic downgrade as far as I know.
[11:58] <mtthw831> whatt up
[11:58] <mtthw831> is anyone up
[11:58] <lordievader> o/
[11:59] <mtthw831> i just installed
[11:59] <mtthw831> what do i do now
[11:59] <lordievader> Use it?
[11:59] <mtthw831> i have done that
[11:59] <mtthw831> next step pls
[11:59] <lordievader> That is it, you install the os. And then you use it.
[12:00] <mtthw831> ok
[12:00] <lordievader> Not sure what you are looking for exactly.
[12:00] <mtthw831> just making sure
[12:00] <mtthw831> updates ?
[12:00] <mtthw831> any special firmware
[12:00] <mtthw831> you know
[12:00] <lordievader> mtthw831: Open a terminal: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:01] <mtthw831> ok
[12:01] <mtthw831> thank you
[12:01] <mtthw831> and after
[12:01] <mtthw831> ?
[12:02] <lordievader> After updating? I'm still not sure what you are after...
[12:02] <mtthw831> ill try to be more specific sorry
[12:02] <mtthw831> my internet is kind of slow
[12:03] <mtthw831> but i am staying at a motel right now but i was wondering if it was the driver
[12:04] <lordievader> I rather think it is the motel's wifi. Such things are usually slow as hell.
[12:04] <mtthw831> yea
[12:04] <mtthw831> i thought so too
[12:05] <mtthw831> is there a way i can check if all drivers are up to date
[12:05] <mtthw831> im new at linux
[12:05] <lordievader> If your packages are up to date, the drivers are up to date* (Ubuntu repo's are sometimes a bit behind)
[12:06] <mtthw831> ok
[12:07] <mtthw831> my laptop used to be windows does that make any difference
[12:08] <lordievader> Nope.
[12:09] <mtthw831> alright
[12:09] <mtthw831> how long have you used linux
[12:10] <lordievader> Quite a while.
[12:10] <mtthw831> any tips?
[12:11] <lordievader> On what?
[12:11] <mtthw831> to learn the commands basics
[12:11] <mtthw831> i don't see myself returning to windows
[12:11] <lordievader> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[12:12] <mtthw831> ok thanks
[12:12] <mtthw831> oh should i install any kind of antivirus
[12:12] <lordievader> No need for that ;)
[12:12] <TJ-> mtthw831: "man" is your friend, as in "man <topic or command>" e.g. "man bash" for the BASH shell
[12:12] <mtthw831> ok got it thanks
[12:13] <lordievader> Man is awesome :)
[12:14] <mtthw831> ill check it out
[12:57] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[14:06] <mtthwp> hey
[14:07] <mtthwp> is anyone
[14:07] <mtthwp> there
[14:24] <sysop2> how can I create an akondi google contacts account by hand? the gui just doesnt work.
[15:04] <owlman> Hi all, any idea what happened to the "Log konsole output history" option?
[15:11] <jamaicatech9> whats up fellaz
[15:11] <jamaicatech9> how are u doing
[15:16] <mernilio> Greetings all! :-)
[15:18] <mernilio> Just for the discussion, why do you think its so few females who is intressted in free software and linux?
[15:20] <mernilio> In the computer department we have some great woman, Grace Hopper, Ada Lovelace, and the girl who invented Biff
[15:20] <hyper_ch> hi there, my screens are messed up. One screen, during boot up, is detect at a lower resolution and once plasma has started, it gets turned off. In system settings -> display it's not even shown anymore. Any suggestion?
[15:22] <mernilio> If it's an new error it sounds like a hardware failure.
[15:23] <hyper_ch> it's no hardware failure
[15:23] <hyper_ch> right now it's shown... but only at 1024x768 resolution instead of full hd
[15:26] <mernilio> Try to check each monitor and stuff atacked to your computer. Problems with dual monitors can be a bitch to solve on IRC.... :-P
[15:27] <hyper_ch> mernilio: monitors work
[15:27] <hyper_ch> mernilio: kde systemsettings just doesn't want to let me put it to 1920x1080 resolution
[15:28] <mernilio> I also use KDE. No dual screens tho. Maybe you should ask in a KDE-channel?
[15:28] <hyper_ch> awking there also
[15:28] <hyper_ch> s/w/s/
[15:28] <mernilio> oki :-)
[15:39] <hyper_ch> why can't I select 1920x1080 resolution in display settings?
[18:19] <mr-rich> kubuntu 14.04 latest updates - plazma seemds to be eating up tons of memory ... any way to fix?
[18:20] <lordievader> What is tons of memory?
[18:22] <mr-rich> lordievader: 15GB out og 16 GB ...
[18:24] <lordievader> Ow... that is a tad much. What process is eating it exactly?
[18:26] <mr-rich> $ ps -e -o pid,vsz,comm= | sort -n -k 2 | tail -n 3
[18:26] <mr-rich> 31592 2946672 kwin
[18:26] <mr-rich> 4881 3930172 plasma-desktop
[18:26] <mr-rich> 2332 15599288 Xorg
[18:26] <mr-rich> lordievader: ^^^^
[18:27] <lordievader> Kwin.. hmm. Does logging out and logging back in help?
[18:29] <mr-rich> lordievader: I tried running kwin --replace ... didn't work ... I'd rather not have to close all my apps to log out ...
[18:29] <lordievader> What kind of resolution do you have?
[18:32] <mr-rich> lordievader: 1600X1200 ... been running that since 12.04 ... problem started recently. At first it was Firefox and when I closed firefox mem would drop to like 2-4 GB ... but now I'm using Chrome and closing it doesn't make a difference ....
[18:35] <lordievader> mr-rich: No it is kwin hogging the memory. What is the uptime?
[18:46] <Lumby_> Is it expected for kscreen to not be included in kde-plasma-desktop?
[18:47] <mparillo_> Lumby_: If you do not get an answer here, I would try #kubuntu-devel before it starts getting late in Europe.
[18:55] <lordievader> Lumby_: Is it included with the 'plasma-desktop' package?
[20:43] <akasic> hello ppl, i just set my taskar to be covered by windows, is any way to make it appear when i hit the bottom? (like in opensuse)
[20:43] <akasic> thnx
?
[20:46] <akasic> i mean with the mouse, hitting at the bottom, it will show up automatically
[20:46] <akasic> (with windows covering it, not the autohide option)9
[20:54] <akasic> well, a good solution is to set the max size of the specific window to a fem pixels less, and a space for a click is there, than for the help
[20:54] <akasic> few
[20:54] <akasic> thnx for the help cya
[21:45] <Phoenixz> Anybody who has the same problem with amarok where its not possible to drag drop move tracks in the playlist?
[21:45] <Phoenixz> I have had this problem spanning over multiple versions, since like 14.04 and 14.10 at the least.. Right now on 15.10, still same issue
[22:13] <valorie> hmmm, I've not built amarok for awhile
[22:13] <valorie> not sure I have time for that today however
[22:59] <eXistenZe> hum... 15.10?
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2015-06-30-#snappy
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[07:08] <dholbach> good morning
[07:11] <fgimenez> good morning
[07:24] <davidcalle> Good morning o/
[08:07] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Meteor Watch Day! 😃
[08:09] <JohnClare> Hello brethren
[08:16] <blr> JamesTait: you can't fool me, it's Ice cream soda day.
[08:17] <JamesTait> blr, really? Works for me!
[08:51] <Chipaca> mo'in ppls
[08:51] <Chipaca> blr: no, that's june 20
[08:52] <Chipaca> blr: although according to the same source, today is "turkey lovers' month"
[08:53] <Chipaca> blr: so i'm not sure they understand the concept of "day"
[08:53] <Chipaca> to be fair, it's a tricky one for chefs to grasp
[08:53] <blr> Chipaca: my secretary will hear about this... this is an outrage.
[08:55] <blr> (my secretary is a black smoke persian, she's not very good at scheduling. Suppose I'll have to return the crate of ice cream soda)
[08:57] * Chipaca hopes that's a cat, as opposed to being incredibly racist
[08:57] <blr> yes, a cat...
[08:57] <Chipaca> blr: no returns on food though
[09:31] <JamesTait> blr, if you need a hand disposing of that ice cream soda, I know someone.... 😉
[10:22] <Chipaca> mvo: i didn't realize gettext2 was merging into gettext, not sure what gives now
[10:22] <mvo> Chipaca: i resubmit, no problem
[10:23] <Chipaca> mvo: okie doke
[10:25] <rsalveti> morning
[10:26] <Chipaca> sergiusens: wrt https://code.launchpad.net/~sergiusens/snappy-hub/grubcfg/+merge/262701 do you want that landed?
[10:26] <Chipaca> rsalveti: mo'in!
[10:39] <rsalveti> ogra_: this beaglecore is quite interesting, but a bit expensive it seems
[10:40] <rsalveti> at the same time there are the other guys doing the $9 board
[10:41] <ogra_> rsalveti, the $9 board is a fake ... it will cost $49 after the kickstarter
[10:42] <rsalveti> right lol
[10:43] <ogra_> ah, sorry, $39 is what thy said
[10:47] <mvo> Chipaca: hm, is it just me or is snappy trunk unhappy right now (and if so, how is this possible?): http://paste.ubuntu.com/11798388/ - gtg to get lunch so no hurry :)
[10:52] <Chipaca> mvo: it's just you
[10:52] <Chipaca> oh, wait
[10:52] <Chipaca> i don't have adt-run :)
[10:52] <Chipaca> mvo: maybe tarmac doesn't have adt-run either
[11:06] <fgimenez> mvo, Chipaca it is failing here too, this branch should fix it https://code.launchpad.net/~fgimenez/snappy/fix-installsnap-call/+merge/263336
[11:14] <sergiusens> Chipaca: I think I want to apply the pastebin first
[11:19] <sergiusens> Chipaca: if someone approves it, it can land ;-)
[11:22] <sergiusens> Chipaca: mvo did the go tests land? And no, no adt-run on tarmac, not sure it would work well (merges would take a tad longer, tad == couple of hours with no prior measurement)
[11:32] <Chipaca> sergiusens: where does tarmac run?
[11:33] <sergiusens> Chipaca: we had this conversation already :-P
[11:33] <sergiusens> Chipaca: on a DO instance
[11:33] <Chipaca> sergiusens: this was a tarmac in a puny cloud thing?
[11:34] <Chipaca> right
[11:34] <Chipaca> sergiusens: you're expensing that, right?
[11:34] <sergiusens> Chipaca: nope
[11:34] <Chipaca> sergiusens: aww, but i want to throw hardware at the problem :)
[11:35] * ogra_ hands Chipaca a spare RPi
[11:35] <Chipaca> ogra_: let's go grab the ubuntu build farm of rpi's that whatsisname croudfunded
[11:36] <ogra_> heh
[11:36] <Chipaca> this one: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/a-raspberry-pi-build-cluster-for-ubuntu
[11:37] <ogra_> yeah, alan
[11:37] <Chipaca> ye, wossisname
[11:38] <Chipaca> anyway :)
[11:38] <Chipaca> sergiusens: if the integration tests are too slow, we split them and farm them out so they're only as slow as the slowest individual test (+overhead)
[11:38] <ogra_> alan bell :)
[11:39] <Chipaca> as opposed to the other alan, wossisname-with-a-face
[11:39] <Chipaca> and then there's wossisname-welsh-guy-plays-with-n-scale-trains
[11:40] <sergiusens> Chipaca: building is not the problem, i's running
[11:40] <Chipaca> sergiusens: that's what i'm talking about
[11:40] <Chipaca> in other news, run-checks now asks me for my password
[11:40] <sergiusens> Chipaca: ok, so first solve the provisioning issue on rpi's and then we do that ;-)
[11:40] <Chipaca> what could possibly go wrong :-)
[11:43] <Chipaca> ugh, does adt-run really leave schroots lying around? :(
[11:45] * Chipaca makes some guacamole to mask his pain
[11:46] <ogra_> get two cucumber slices too ...
[11:50] <Chipaca> no cucumber, no tomato, no peppers. so it's my ex-mother-in-law's recipe: palta, lemon, salt, ground pepper
[11:52] <ogra_> and some garlic bread ?
[11:52] <Chipaca> yep
[11:56] <Chipaca> fgimenez: with that patch the tests build but don't pass, right?
[11:59] <fgimenez> Chipaca, no, i have them passing too, are they failing?
[12:00] <Chipaca> fgimenez: ver es
[12:00] <Chipaca> fgimenez: ver yes
[12:00] <Chipaca> fgimenez: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11798701/
[12:01] <fgimenez> Chipaca, this is the adt-run error because of the missing dpkg-query, with adt-run 3.15.1 should be ok
[12:01] <Chipaca> fgimenez: ahhhh
[12:02] <fgimenez> Chipaca, however i think 3.15.1 is only available in wily atm...
[12:02] <Chipaca> fgimenez: i'm on wily, but haven't updated this week
[12:02] * Chipaca apologizes
[12:02] * sergiusens is back
[12:02] <fgimenez> Chipaca, ah ok then :)
[12:03] <fgimenez> Chipaca, np :)
[12:28] <sergiusens> Chipaca: does this work for you https://code.launchpad.net/~sergiusens/snappy/splitDown/+merge/263294 ?
[12:28] * Chipaca looks
[12:29] <Chipaca> sergiusens: sure
[12:32] <sergiusens> Chipaca: that solves the nit in https://code.launchpad.net/~sergiusens/snappy/downloadIcon/+merge/263296 , right?
[12:33] <Chipaca> sergiusens: you probably want to merge trunk
[12:34] <sergiusens> Chipaca: I have
[12:34] <Chipaca> sergiusens: it solves it for the common "download failed" error, but not sure whether the more pathologic errors (the copy failing for example)
[12:34] <Chipaca> sergiusens: why do you have conflicts then?
[12:34] <Chipaca> maybe i'm looking at the wrong diff :)
[12:34] <sergiusens> Chipaca: maybe my syc-pipeline failed, let me check
[12:35] <Chipaca> yeah, there are for real conflicts in there
[12:36] <sergiusens> Chipaca: ok, one more sec; sync-pipeline is doing its thing now
[12:37] <sergiusens> Chipaca: there
[12:37] <sergiusens> Chipaca: the obscure error from w.Sync() you mean?
[12:37] <sergiusens> Chipaca: we have a bug for clearer download errors fwiw
[12:38] <sergiusens> maybe we should tackle that there?
[12:40] <Chipaca> sergiusens: maybe? what's the bug?
[12:41] <sergiusens> Chipaca: not sure, I asked someone to log it
[12:41] <sergiusens> Chipaca: so maybe we don't...
[14:27] <kgunn> seb128: so where do you get the udf/goget-ubuntun-touch that has personal channel support from ?
[14:29] <sergiusens> kgunn: for now you can just grab the u-d-f deb from https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/goget-ubuntu-touch/0.25-0ubuntu1 ... I'll take it to tools-proposed in a bit
[14:29] <elopio> hello.
[14:29] <kgunn> sergiusens: thanks...
[14:29] <sergiusens> kgunn: clickable linke https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/goget-ubuntu-touch/0.25-0ubuntu1/+build/7569188/+files/ubuntu-device-flash_0.25-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb
[14:30] <sergiusens> if you are on an amd64 system
[14:30] <kgunn> sergiusens: uh....do you have one for vivid ?
[14:30] <ogra_> its go
[14:30] <sergiusens> kgunn: it really really doesn't matter
[14:30] <kgunn> k
[14:30] <ogra_> just install ti
[14:30] <ogra_> *it
[14:30] <kgunn> and yes amd64
[14:31] <seb128> kgunn, what sergiusens said
[14:31] <sergiusens> kgunn: just make sure add-apt-repository ppa:snappy-dev/tools to make sure all aux deps are up to date
[14:31] <seb128> bah, I don't get why but cloud-init fails to start on snappy personal for a week
[14:31] <ogra_> i dont get why you still havent unseeded it :P
[14:32] <ogra_> (we talked about it last week iirc)
[14:32] <seb128> ogra_, because we don't want to diverge from core
[14:32] <elopio> fgimenez: sorry I'm late. I'm joining the hangout.
[14:33] <ogra_> seb128, you definitely do want to diverge from core
[14:33] <fgimenez> elopio, ok np
[14:33] <seb128> ogra_, why?
[14:33] <ogra_> seb128, you want to actually have a merged system between core and touch
[14:33] <ogra_> because core isnt a desktop system
[14:33] <seb128> right, but we want the base snappy zest to work
[14:33] <ogra_> and cloud-init isnt really designed for desktops
[14:34] * ogra_ would use the user creation from touch for now ... as i suggested last week
[14:34] <ogra_> and drop cloud-init
[14:34] <seb128> kgunn, ^ what do you think?
[14:35] <ogra_> you will most likely get a lot of issues with session startup and permissions etc
[14:35] <ogra_> (not sure how clous-init exactly works, but it likely is focused on cloud user creation :) )
[14:36] <sergiusens> seb128: ogra_ I can fix this from the u-d-f side, just give me a sec
[14:36] <ogra_> sergiusens, cloud-init ?
[14:36] <sergiusens> ogra_: yeah, just like we do for our 'devices'
[14:36] <sergiusens> I just didn't think personal would have cloud-init seeded ;-)
[14:37] <ogra_> yeah
[14:37] <sergiusens> I think seb128 has a point, it will be easier to migrate into core if the base has additions only and not removals
[14:37] <seb128> sergiusens, oh, it's an u-d-f issue?
[14:38] <sergiusens> seb128: yes and no
[14:38] <ogra_> seb128, teg phablet user creation for touch is in livecd-rootfs in a hook btw ... (if you port it you want to take a look at the groups though, you likely dont want the android groups in personal desktop)
[14:38] <ogra_> *the phablet
[14:38] <sergiusens> seb128: what is in u-d-f today I consider a hack and we have a task to remove that hack
[14:39] <seb128> ogra_, yeah, I'm looking at http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/livecd-rootfs/trunk/view/head:/live-build/ubuntu-touch/hooks/00-uid-gid-fix.chroot_early
[14:39] <ogra_> seb128, no, not that one
[14:39] <seb128> ogra_, sergiusens, I'm unsure what to do there, I wanted to get the image working without diverging too much from core, then start to discuss things like not using cloud-init
[14:40] <seb128> ogra_, sorry
[14:40] <ogra_> seb128, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/livecd-rootfs/trunk/view/head:/live-build/ubuntu-touch/hooks/01-setup_user.chroot
[14:40] <seb128> ogra_, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/livecd-rootfs/trunk/view/head:/live-build/ubuntu-touch/hooks/01-setup_user.chroot
[14:40] <seb128> I mean
[14:40] <seb128> yeah, clicked the wrong one :p
[14:40] <ogra_> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/livecd-rootfs/trunk/view/head:/live-build/ubuntu-touch/hooks/02-add_user_to_groups.chroot and http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/livecd-rootfs/trunk/view/head:/live-build/ubuntu-touch/hooks/45-add-sudo-group-nm.chroot are the ones you want to take a look at too
[14:41] <seb128> ogra_, thanks
[14:41] <ogra_> though for the first one you probably only want the audio group (if at all)
[14:42] <ogra_> sergiusens, hmm, that reminds me ... did you take a look at usermod too wrt extrausers ?
[14:42] <ogra_> it might also need love
[14:46] <vmayoral|pc> ppisati: ping
[14:48] <sergiusens> ogra_: I haven't, and yes it needs love, but one step at a time; deluser also needs some love fwiw
[14:48] <ogra_> sergiusens, yeah, just struck me that we didnt have it on the list yet
[14:49] <ogra_> but apparently you do already :)
[14:49] <seb128> sergiusens, ok, I think I'm going to follow ogra_'s suggestion for the user creation, it's likely going to make easier to have the user in the right groups as well
[14:50] <ogra_> seb128, indeed thats not a long term solution (but neither is cloud-init i guess)
[14:51] <ogra_> seb128, we also have a bunch of lightdm changes (in either lxc-android-config or ubuntu-tuch-session, i forgot where they landed ... that are needed to make u-s-c start etc ... ) mterry implemented that back then
[14:53] <sergiusens> seb128: so you are unseeding cloud-init?
[14:53] <seb128> sergiusens, going to have a look at doing that, I hope it doesn't carry us at doing too many changes
[14:54] <sergiusens> seb128: when it's safe to seed it again once the proper snappy firstboot logic is in place you can add it back
[14:54] <seb128> ogra_, is the uid 32011 for android compat purpose? or asked differently, is that needed or desktop or should it be 1000?
[14:54] <seb128> sergiusens, right
[14:54] <sergiusens> seb128: you can subscribe to https://trello.com/c/W5WiZQM7/117-core-config-for-cloud-init
[14:54] <sergiusens> if you want
[14:55] <ogra_> seb128, 1000 is hardcoded in android for the "system" user
[14:55] <seb128> sergiusens, thanks
[14:55] <ogra_> seb128, the 32011 is just to be sure we dont clash with any of these hardcoded andrpid groups
[14:56] <seb128> ogra_, k, so 1000 should do for desktop I guess :-)
[14:56] <ogra_> for multi user phones and convergence we will need to fix that in the adduser config so that the default user gets a high enough UID
[14:57] <ogra_> for an initial desktop image 1000 should do indeed ... but you will have to follow the above later too ... since convergence will use the android container most likely
[14:57] <Chipaca> people, i'm going out over mobile right now, and it's acting up, not giving me 3g (although it fluctuates)
[14:57] <seb128> right, let's see
[14:58] <Chipaca> my point being, not sure ho will work
[15:02] <ogra_> Chipaca, use a proper phone :P
[15:03] <sergiusens> Chipaca: we are splitting work
[15:03] <sergiusens> Chipaca: if you are not there...
[15:03] <sergiusens> :-P
[15:03] <Chipaca> i'll try! ill try.
[15:09] <ogra_> yeah, you just got all the crap stuff assined
[15:09] <ogra_> *assined
[15:09] <ogra_> bah
[15:10] <ogra_> i need a new g !
[15:22] <elopio> fgimenez: the upgrade test works for me http://paste.ubuntu.com/11799617/
[15:23] <fgimenez> elopio, ok, i'll try it again
[15:23] <elopio> fgimenez: I pushed a merge with trunk.
[15:24] <fgimenez> elopio, thanks, running now
[15:25] <fgimenez> elopio, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11799655/
[15:26] <elopio> fgimenez: it's running the upgrade test as part of the command1.
[15:27] <fgimenez> elopio, command1 should be latest right?
[15:27] <elopio> test command1: debian/integration-tests/snappy-test update.test
[15:28] <elopio> fgimenez: yes. What do you have in your debian/integration-tests/control ?
[15:29] <fgimenez> elopio, yes that must be it http://paste.ubuntu.com/11799670/
[15:29] <fgimenez> elopio, rerunning with clean control
[15:29] <seb128> ogra_, do you know why http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/livecd-rootfs/trunk/view/head:/live-build/ubuntu-touch/hooks/01-setup_user.chroot create the user with --disable-login?
[15:30] <slangasek> seb128: hey, not sure whether cyphermox filled you in, but we do have a grub now in wily whose --removable option will work for snappy personal. Unfortunately when booting under qemu, the kernel then crashes in a loop... that's most likely unrelated though
[15:30] <elopio> fgimenez: right, this is +1 to your control templates, then the index is something we control on main, not something we have to keep in sync.
[15:30] <fgimenez> elopio, yes, having it unified may prevent errors in the long term
[15:32] <seb128> slangasek, cyphermox, oh, nice ... the kernel loop, what grub entry do you try? the snappy/system-a does that but the "ubuntu" one works
[15:32] <slangasek> seb128: ah - we don't get a boot menu, so we're just booting whatever the default is, which I would expect to be snappy/system-a
[15:32] <seb128> slangasek, k, that doesn't work
[15:32] <ogra_> seb128, no idea, that script originally comes from the OEM team (when it was still called that)
[15:33] <seb128> unsure how it's created/why we have several entries
[15:33] <ogra_> seb128, oh, wait, thats for system and radio users
[15:33] <seb128> ogra_, no, l7
[15:33] <seb128> adduser --gecos $USER --disabled-login $USER --uid $UGID
[15:33] <ogra_> we dont want any hacker to abuse these accounts indeed :)
[15:33] <seb128> echo "I: creating default user $USER"
[15:34] <ogra_> ah, right, no idea about that one ... i guess for the actual user it is nonsense
[15:34] <ogra_> for radio and system thats surely valid
[15:34] <seb128> right
[15:35] <seb128> ogra_, "With the --disabled-login option, the
[15:35] <seb128> account will be created but will be disabled until a password is set.
[15:35] <seb128> "
[15:35] <seb128> which is done further in the file
[15:36] <seb128> so I guess it's ok
[15:36] <ogra_> yeah, as i said, nonsense
[15:36] <elopio> mvo: are you using go benchmark for the squash report?
[15:36] <ogra_> someone being over-cautious or something
[15:36] <slangasek> seb128: I would assume that snappy personal should have a/b partitions just like snappy core... what are the differences between this 'ubuntu' boot entry and the snappy one?
[15:37] <fgimenez> elopio, all fine now http://paste.ubuntu.com/11799711/ :)
[15:37] <seb128> slangasek, I don't know, we didn't tweak anything from grub, just copied the hooks from core
[15:38] <slangasek> hmm
[15:38] <elopio> fgimenez: phew. Please top approve when you are happy with it. Or leave a needs fixing if you are unhappy, I'll fix it after breakfast.
[15:39] <elopio> fgimenez: so now we have to think about how to declare tests and their requirements, so main.go can parse that.
[15:39] <elopio> doesn't sound too easy if we have to declare channel, release and version, and maybe secondary test bed inside a container.
[15:40] <fgimenez> elopio, yes, we can begin with the simplest cases
[15:40] <seb128> slangasek, the pastebin I did the other time is still there on http://paste.ubuntu.com/11757708/ if you want to see the configs
[15:41] <fgimenez> elopio, main.go is becoming a little hairy, maybe we can do this and other related stuff in a separate adtrun library
[15:42] <seb128> slangasek, seems like the snappy one is trying to boot the .efi.signed and the ubuntu one not
[15:43] <slangasek> seb128: oh interesting!
[15:44] <seb128> linux /boot/vmlinuz-3.19.0-22-generic.efi.signed root=LABEL=system-a ro init=/lib/systemd/systemd
[15:44] <seb128> vs
[15:45] <seb128> linux /boot/vmlinuz-3.19.0-22-generic root=UUID=c019e487-1263-4559-90d8-af732fa72ef1 ro init=/lib/systemd/systemd
[15:45] <seb128>
[15:45] <seb128> also one uysing disk label
[15:45] <seb128> disk->partition
[15:45] <seb128> but I guess that's not the issue
[15:46] <ogra_> uh
[15:46] <ogra_> you definitely dont want a UUID in there
[15:48] <ppisati> vmayoral|pc: pong
[15:48] <vmayoral|pc> ppisati: hi
[15:48] <ppisati> vmayoral|pc: hi
[15:49] <vmayoral|pc> ppisati: I'm trying to update our images on the BeagleBone Black with the newer kernels (our images still rely on http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git/ppisati/ubuntu-vivid.git/log/?h=snappy_beagle_3.8)
[15:50] <elopio> fgimenez: +1 to that too. If we make main.go an adt-run setup script, then it will be a lot easier for the CI machinery, if we ever get that.
[15:50] <vmayoral|pc> ppisati: do you think I could have access to the kernel sources from the newer kernels (e.g. 3.19)
[15:50] <vmayoral|pc> ppisati: or maybe even better, 4.+
[15:51] <ppisati> vmayoral|pc: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git/ubuntu/ubuntu-vivid.git/
[15:51] <ppisati> vmayoral|pc: that's the src code for the 3.19 kernel
[15:52] <ppisati> vmayoral|pc: we don't support 4.x yet
[15:52] <vmayoral|pc> ppisati: ok, is there a specific branch for the BeagleBone Black?
[15:52] <ppisati> vmayoral|pc: nope, it's the master branch
[15:52] <ppisati> vmayoral|pc: just compile it for armhf
[15:53] <ppisati> vmayoral|pc: here is an howto for cross compilation
[15:53] <ppisati> vmayoral|pc: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ARMKernelCrossCompile
[15:54] <ppisati> vmayoral|pc: branch master
[15:54] <vmayoral|pc> ppisati: thanks, unfortunately, I believe that won't do because we make use of the patches from BeagleBoard.
[15:54] <elopio> fgimenez: we have a lot of lint errors, mainly for missing comments. I'll fix that.
[15:54] <vmayoral|pc> ppisati: do you believe it's possible to rebase Ubuntu's patches on top of https://github.com/beagleboard/linux?
[15:54] <mvo> elopio: I'm not using go-benchmark, its currently not very reproducable, but go benchmark is a nice idea
[15:55] <vmayoral|pc> ppisati: i tried doing so with the apparmor ones you did before at http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git/ppisati/ubuntu-vivid.git/log/?h=snappy_beagle_3.8
[15:55] <vmayoral|pc> ppisati: but I failed miserably
[15:55] <ppisati> vmayoral|pc: isn't that the 3.8 kernel you are talking about?
[15:57] <vmayoral|pc> ppisati: mmm maybe i didn't express myself appropriately, 3.8 kernel is working great after your help last time, however we'd like to move to 3.19 (and make use of the latest Snappy image release by you guys)
[15:58] <ppisati> vmayoral|pc: so you don't want the ubuntu patches on top of the beagleboard kernel
[15:58] <ppisati> vmayoral|pc: you want the beaglebone patches on top of the ubuntu vivid kernel
[15:59] <ppisati> vmayoral|pc: and sorry, but it's too much work
[15:59] <vmayoral|pc> ppisati: i'm fine having the ubuntu patches on top of beagleboard's if that's possible
[15:59] <vmayoral|pc> i tried that myself
[15:59] <vmayoral|pc> but failed
[15:59] <ppisati> vmayoral|pc: but that's your situation now
[15:59] <ppisati> vmayoral|pc: isn'it?
[15:59] <vmayoral|pc> ppisati: for the 3.8 yes, but not for newer kernels
[16:00] <ogra_> is that still the old capemgr issue ?
[16:01] <ogra_> or what are these BBB patches ?
[16:01] <vmayoral|pc> ogra_: yes, it's that
[16:01] * ogra_ thought there would be a proper replacement by now
[16:01] <vmayoral|pc> i believe capemgr has been integrated in 4+ kernels which is why I started that way the conversation
[16:04] <fgimenez> elopio, ok thanks flycheck can catch these too http://i.imgur.com/uKG1pll.png
[16:08] <elopio> fgimenez: my goal for today is to have a pretty emacs like you :)
[16:08] <sergiusens> ogra_: mvo builds are broken -> cp: cannot stat 'debian/tmp/share': No such file or directory
[16:08] <sergiusens> any idea what caused that?
[16:08] <sergiusens> alos, what's up with all the 'ar: `u' modifier ignored since `D' is the default (see `U')'
[16:09] <ogra_> sergiusens, ?
[16:09] <ogra_> got a log or something ?
[16:09] <sergiusens> ogra_: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/210353958/buildlog_ubuntu-wily-powerpc.ubuntu-snappy_1.2-1%2B538~ubuntu15.10.1_BUILDING.txt.gz
[16:10] <sergiusens> ogra_: or here https://code.launchpad.net/~snappy-dev/+recipe/snappy-daily-wily
[16:11] <sergiusens> ogra_: that ar thing only shows up on powerpc, but the cannot stat on all
[16:11] <fgimenez> elopio, didn't know of this nicety before! :)
[16:12] <ogra_> sergiusens, that looks to me like there is a wrong path in a .install or .dirs file
[16:12] <sergiusens> ogra_: yeah, I'm not aware of approving anything like this from the queue though
[16:13] <sergiusens> ogra_: I'll check after lunch
[16:13] * sergiusens is starving
[16:14] <ogra_> i guess the ar message can be ignored (not sure though) since you newly create the archive ... so "u" = update ... wouldnt update anything
[16:14] <fgimenez> nice evening everyone o/
[16:15] <vmayoral|pc> ppisati: I quickly tried grabbing the latest image provided by you guys and replaced the kernel with the 3.8
[16:16] <vmayoral|pc> ppisati: seems promising, so i think we can go that way
[16:16] <vmayoral|pc> ppisati: long term, i'd like to put some of my time supporting newer kernels
[16:19] <vmayoral|pc> ppisati: If you don't mind, i'd like to run my thoughts through you regarding "the beaglebone patches on top of the ubuntu vivid kernel". You already shared that it'll be a substancial amount of work. My approach will be to find a common commit and start analyzing commits from that point
[16:20] <vmayoral|pc> ppisati: is there a better way to approach it?
[16:21] <ogra_> sergiusens, looking at debian/rules i dont even see why it would do this extra dh_install call at all ... i wonder if the golang debhelper bits changed
[16:22] <ogra_> sergiusens, it definitely finishes fine in the "override_dh_auto_install" part ...
[16:30] <ogra_> sergiusens, hmm though i see the dh_install in a successfull build too... very weird
[16:48] <ogra_> sergiusens, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~snappy-dev/snappy/snappy/revision/527 ... that has changes to debian/rules ... blame mvo :P
[16:53] <mvo> ogra_: oh, I broke it? let me see
[16:54] <ogra_> mvo, https://launchpadlibrarian.net/210353958/buildlog_ubuntu-wily-powerpc.ubuntu-snappy_1.2-1%2B538~ubuntu15.10.1_BUILDING.txt.gz
[16:54] <ogra_> make[1]: Leaving directory '/«PKGBUILDDIR»'
[16:54] <ogra_> dh_install -a -O--buildsystem=golang -O--fail-missing
[16:54] <ogra_> cp: cannot stat 'debian/tmp/share': No such file or directory
[16:54] <ogra_> dh_install: cp --reflink=auto -a debian/tmp/share debian/ubuntu-snappy-cli//usr/ returned exit code 1
[16:55] * mvo looks
[16:55] <mvo> thanks ogra_
[17:07] <vmayoral|pc> webdm seems to be failing with the new BBB image https://gist.github.com/vmayoral/371b1c10fdaed445353d
[17:07] <vmayoral|pc> tried restarting the service but keeps failing
[17:07] <vmayoral|pc> (the BBB doesn't have access to Internet but i'd be surprised if this is the cause)
[17:08] <ogra_> well, if there is no network interface up it cant start avahi
[17:08] <ogra_> so i think thats kind fo expected ... (how would you access webdm without network anyway)
[17:12] <vmayoral|pc> ogra_: there're network interfaces up but none with access to the Internet. Previous Snappy images didn't fail when launching webdm in this scenario
[17:12] <vmayoral|pc> good to know though, thanks
[17:13] <ogra_> well, does the interface have an IP ?
[17:13] <ogra_> or is it just up
[17:13] <elopio> launchpad is angry today.
[17:14] <ogra_> yeah, i had various 503's here tha last hour
[17:14] <vmayoral|pc> ogra_: they've got IP addresses (e.g. I'm using usb0 in an ethernet-over-usb configuration for debugging)
[17:16] <sergiusens> vmayoral|pc: pastebin the output of sudo journalctl -u webdm_snappyd_0.9.service (or the corresponding version number)
[17:18] <vmayoral|pc> sergiusens: https://gist.github.com/vmayoral/a6995881699d05a6d3ea
[17:18] <vmayoral|pc> systemd-analyze plot has been fixed in the new image :)!
[17:19] <sergiusens> vmayoral|pc: yeah, as ogra_ says, it's avahi, I might need to do something for this not to happen, do you mind sharing your network config? (with ifconfig or ip)
[17:20] <vmayoral|pc> sergiusens: https://gist.github.com/vmayoral/d24efe6b378e0d959237
[17:20] <vmayoral|pc> any chance someone can have a look at this svg https://gist.github.com/vmayoral/61f880c0663ac6187316?
[17:21] <vmayoral|pc> Snappy takes 73s to finish booting, i'd to love to reduce this
[17:22] <ogra_> because you have no eth0 i bet
[17:22] <ogra_> bah, that svg cant be easily opened from the browser
[17:22] <vmayoral|pc> we've had a few demos with Snappy and people always ask why it takes so long to boot :(
[17:23] <vmayoral|pc> ogra_: let me export to it png and upload it somewhere
[17:23] <ogra_> no, its fine ...
[17:23] <longsleep> my snappy boots in 3 seconds
[17:23] <ogra_> dropping the RAW url into eog works
[17:24] <vmayoral|pc> longsleep: 3 seconds! that'll be sweet
[17:24] <ogra_> yeah, looks like cloud-init starts really late there ...
[17:24] <ogra_> most likely due to waiting for some network timeout
[17:24] <vmayoral|pc> i still haven't tinkered much into the image so i presume most BBBs should have a similar booting time
[17:25] <vmayoral|pc> s/tinkered/hacked
[17:27] <vmayoral|pc> cloud-init-local.service takes about 18 seconds
[17:27] <ogra_> vmayoral|pc, try removing /etc/network/interfaces.d/eth0 and reboot ... see if that changes anything
[17:27] <longsleep> Is this the first boot?
[17:27] <longsleep> cloud init creates all the keys and stuff on first boot
[17:27] <longsleep> that takes a while
[17:27] <ogra_> longsleep, no, but it behaves like the first boot ...
[17:27] <longsleep> ah
[17:28] <longsleep> well - then i do not know why cloud init ever should be blocking
[17:28] <longsleep> even if it takes 18 seconds
[17:28] <ogra_> becaue its slow ... python on arm etc etc :P
[17:29] <longsleep> depends on the arm i guess - quad core 1.5GHz is fast
[17:29] <vmayoral|pc> this is a 1 GHz single core cortex-A8
[17:29] <ogra_> well, you are spoiled :P
[17:29] <longsleep> hehe - true i guess
[17:29] <ogra_> vmayoral|pc, single ?
[17:29] <ogra_> i thought it is dual
[17:30] <vmayoral|pc> ogra_: the BBB has a single ARM core
[17:30] <ogra_> oh
[17:30] * ogra_ always thought it was a dual core
[17:30] <vmayoral|pc> but it includes 2 additional PRUs (programmable real time units)
[17:30] <longsleep> well then - you will not get 3 seconds boot with that :)
[17:30] <vmayoral|pc> quite useful but not in this particular case i'm afraid
[17:30] <ogra_> no, but 30+ should be achievable
[17:30] <ogra_> if everything behaves
[17:31] <vmayoral|pc> that's sort of like what i was aiming for, I got those booting times with previous Ubuntu images
[17:31] <vmayoral|pc> (Trusty images)
[17:31] <longsleep> mhm ok - if half of it is cloud init with 18s ..
[17:31] <longsleep> still feels way to long
[17:32] <ogra_> i wonder if cloud-init can even handle usb0 interfaces
[17:32] <ogra_> might be that that is confusing it and making it generate new ssh keys every boot or some such
[17:33] <vmayoral|pc> ogra_: i've debugged the boot of the BBB with a serial cable and i don't see the keys being generated every time
[17:33] <longsleep> yeah that sounds plausible - the webdm error indicates that the system is busy and fails to start webdm in time
[17:33] <ogra_> well, then it is something else in cloud-init
[17:34] <sergiusens> mvo: native?
[17:34] <longsleep> thats one thing i wanted to ask - why is cloud-init even in there?
[17:34] <sergiusens> well, at least that avoids future quilting...
[17:35] <vmayoral|pc> here's the booting process https://gist.github.com/vmayoral/1c6831bbbb2444ba8fe6
[17:35] <longsleep> it seems half of cloud-init is disabled anyway - i was investigating how i can resize the app space to use full card on boot
[17:36] <longsleep> well it takes 8 seconds to load and unpack the initramfs already
[17:39] <longsleep> so it essentially booted up after 10 seconds which is fine. All the rest is systemd doing startup.
[17:39] <longsleep> i would uninstall webdm first as this seems broken and then disable cloud-init to start on boot and see how this goes
[17:42] <vmayoral|pc> longsleep: let me try that
[17:47] <vmayoral|pc> improved to 51 seconds
[17:48] <longsleep> no cloud-init ?
[17:48] <vmayoral|pc> sorry, 59, not 51.
[17:49] <vmayoral|pc> I did "systemctl disable cloud-init"
[17:49] <vmayoral|pc> but didn't seem to disable it, am i missing something
[17:49] <vmayoral|pc> ?
[17:49] <longsleep> i guess it is with some .service suffix
[17:49] <longsleep> try systemctl status to get the names
[17:50] <longsleep> it has even 4 services
[17:50] <sergiusens> elopio: is lp still behaving badly for you?
[17:50] <longsleep> cloud-init-local.service, cloud-init.service, cloud-config.target, cloud-config.service, cloud-final.service
[17:51] <longsleep> i am travelling right now, and do not have a snappy at hand to check the exact way to disable it
[17:53] <vmayoral|pc> ok, all disabled, retrying
[17:55] <vmayoral|pc> mmm odd, still something's going on
[17:55] <vmayoral|pc> https://gist.github.com/vmayoral/eac1c483fc97547281d2
[17:56] <longsleep> vmayoral|pc: check if cloud-init is really disabled. I have to leave now - if this does not help then start to disable even more to figure out where it is loosing time
[17:56] <vmayoral|pc> longsleep: sure, thanks for your help!
[17:56] <kgunn> hey so if i use this u-d-f for downloading personal image....what happens ? does it simply download it into ~/.cache? or does it actually try to install ?
[17:56] <longsleep> it still runs cloud-init
[17:57] <sergiusens> kgunn: it creates an img you can put anywhere that you see fit
[17:57] <kgunn> sergiusens: ah...really, creates it on the fly ?
[17:57] <sergiusens> kgunn: yes
[17:58] <kgunn> sergiusens: too curious...so is it just using the latest packaging from wily ?
[17:58] <sergiusens> kgunn: ok, now I'm lost
[17:59] <sergiusens> kgunn: but I think I want to say yes
[17:59] <kgunn> sergiusens: yeah, just wondering how it knows what packages to use....
[17:59] <kgunn> like conceivbly i could make a vivid img
[17:59] <sergiusens> kgunn: system-image -> cdimage -> livecd-rootfs -> ubuntu wily + ~snappy-dev/image
[17:59] <kgunn> even tho i'm creating a wily one
[18:00] <sergiusens> kgunn: to make a vivid image you would need to target 15.04 instead of rolling and then be confined to ubuntu vivid + ~snappy-dev/image(for vivid)
[18:01] <kgunn> sergiusens: got it, i was just surprised that it's creating an image....rather than downloading some prebuilt thing
[18:01] <sergiusens> kgunn: prebuilts for releases only; personal has not been released
[18:01] <kgunn> shnikes....this is gonna be a while
[18:02] <kgunn> sergiusens: does the img just end up in the directory i'm sitting in? (e.g. not in .cache/system-images....
[18:03] <sergiusens> kgunn: ends up wherever --output tells it to
[18:21] <ogra_> sergiusens, kgunn, i *think* personal uses vivid+overlay, i might be wrong though, seb128 could help
[18:22] <kgunn> don't think so...at least in his instructions, output file is named "wily.img"
[18:22] <ogra_> ah, k
[18:23] <kgunn> seb128: how do i know i
[18:23] <kgunn> 'm hitting the cloud init prob ?
[18:23] <ogra_> that has just been removed, not sure the removal already landed in an image
[18:23] <seb128> kgunn, you wait for a while and it boots
[18:24] <seb128> kgunn, or you edit the grub line, add systemd.debug-shell, boot, when it hangs ctrl-alt-f9 and systemctl stop cloud-init
[18:24] <kgunn> at grub menu, do i choose "ubuntu" or "ubuntu core blah blah blah"
[18:25] <seb128> "ubuntu"
[18:25] <kgunn> cool
[18:26] <seb128> need to go, bbl
[18:26] <kgunn> ohp...there it is...
[18:26] <kgunn> seb128: o/
[18:26] <kgunn> i'm just impatient
[18:32] <davmor2> sergiusens: I'm confused why is generic-i386 tagline AMD64 generic package that makes no sense ;)
[18:32] <sergiusens> davmor2: because...
[18:33] <sergiusens> davmor2: you are just opening a can of worms here :-)
[18:33] <davmor2> sergiusens: we if you will put the can of worms next to the can opener what is person to do :P
[18:34] <ogra_> davmor2, no worries, you can only install it on armhf anyway ...
[18:34] <ogra_> and only if you log in via a ppc64el machine
[18:34] <sergiusens> ogra_: no, we changed the requirement to MIPS
[18:35] <ogra_> ah, cool, finally !
[18:35] <davmor2> \o/ universe implodes
[18:41] <kgunn> seb128: iirc, you said you see phone greeter, i
[18:41] <kgunn> 'm seeing desktop
[18:52] <elopio> sergiusens: yes, I still have to retry the lp commands.
[18:52] <elopio> https://bugs.launchpad.net/snappy/+bug/1470210
[18:52] <elopio> this breaks often, right?
[18:52] <elopio> rsalveti: ^
[19:07] <sergiusens> elopio: are you building with gcc-go instead of gc-go?
[19:29] <elopio> sergiusens: for that bug, I'm not building anything.
[19:29] <elopio> just installing from the store and running.
[19:54] <kgunn> (nice i typed this and didn't hit enter) seb128: so how do i get past the greeter ?
[20:18] <sergiusens> elopio: oh, haven't checked the content, just the title
[20:18] <sergiusens> elopio: it's strange but the ubuntu-core-launcher is broken and it shouldn't be, Chipaca ideas?
[20:19] <Chipaca> sergiusens: nesting roaches shorted out the ether cable
[20:20] * Chipaca hugs http://pages.cs.wisc.edu/~ballard/bofh/bofhserver.pl
[20:20] <Chipaca> sergiusens: broken how?
[20:20] <sergiusens> Chipaca: as in https://bugs.launchpad.net/snappy/+bug/1470210
[20:21] <Chipaca> ok, let me take a look
[20:21] <Chipaca> i'm going to have to engage the brain, please stand by
[20:22] <sergiusens> Chipaca: it's strange that the debian packaging system didn't pickup on the shared libs
[20:22] <sergiusens> maybe it's missing that stanz
[20:22] <sergiusens> maybe it's missing that stanza
[20:24] <Chipaca> but only on the bbb
[20:30] <Chipaca> sergiusens: is that still: sudo ubuntu-device-flash --verbose core rolling -o bbb_rolling_`date -I`.img --channel edge --oem beagleblack --developer-mode ?
[20:48] <Chipaca> sergiusens: do you have the serial pinout for the bbb handy? i remember i plugged in five cables, but can't find which ones where :) internet says to only plug in three from what i can find today
[20:51] <sergiusens> Chipaca: http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBone_Black_Serial
[20:51] <Chipaca> yep, that's what i was finding
[20:51] <sergiusens> Chipaca: I connect all except the red one
[20:51] <Chipaca> just three cables
[20:51] <sergiusens> Chipaca: 5vcc
[20:51] <sergiusens> that I avoid
[20:52] <Chipaca> yep; on mine, 5vcc is not connected at the other end
[20:52] <Chipaca> but i've got tx/rx, rts/cts, and dtr
[20:52] <Chipaca> um
[20:52] * Chipaca looks again
[20:53] <Chipaca> dtr, rxd, txd, (5v), cts, gnd
[20:53] <Chipaca> and the doc tells me where to plug in gnd, rxd and txd
[20:53] <Chipaca> so no hardware flow control?
[20:53] <Chipaca> i seem to remember i had that, but ok i guess
[20:54] <sergiusens> Chipaca: I have them connected, but it's not needed
[20:54] <Chipaca> sergiusens: where do you have them connected?
[20:56] * Chipaca goes with the three-cable version
[20:57] <Chipaca> sd is nearly finished flashing :)
[20:58] <sergiusens> Chipaca: they are useless
[20:58] <sergiusens> Chipaca: https://github.com/CircuitCo/BeagleBone-Black/blob/master/BBB_SRM.pdf?raw=true
[20:59] <sergiusens> Chipaca: section 7.5
[21:01] <Chipaca> “Signals supported are TX and RX. None of the handshake signals are supported.” :-(
[21:01] <Chipaca> (from the equivalent datasheet for my particular one)
[21:02] <sergiusens> Chipaca: right, useless but I have them connected
[21:05] <Chipaca> the bbb still has eth0! \o/
[21:16] <Chipaca> sergiusens: are you on wily?
[21:26] * Chipaca reboots just in case
[21:42] <Chipaca> why doesn't network manager want to share my ethernet any more :-(
[22:11] <Chipaca> [Tue Jun 30 22:10:21 2015] audit: type=1400 audit(1435702222.070:14): apparmor="DENIED" operation="open" profile="/usr/bin/ubuntu-core-launcher" name="/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/libgcc_s.so.1" pid=1240 comm="ubuntu-core-lau" requested_mask="r" denied_mask="r" fsuid=0 ouid=0
[22:11] <Chipaca> sergiusens: ^^^
[22:12] * Chipaca votes compiling everything statically with musl
[22:24] <Chipaca> sergiusens: the fix is easy, but i want to figure out why arm uses that library and intel doesn't. in the morning tho
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[05:38] <superfly> http://www.wired.com/2015/06/problem-putting-worlds-code-github/
[05:41] <superfly> Morning barrydk
[05:41] <superfly> And mazal
[05:45] <ThatGraemeGuy> mornings
[05:50] <superfly> Morning ThatGraemeGuy
[05:57] <mazal> Morning superfly , ThatGraemeGuy
[05:59] <superfly> Morning Kilos
[05:59] <Kilos> morning superfly freezing here
[05:59] <superfly> Mmmm, much the same here
[05:59] <Kilos> everything outside frizzed again
[05:59] <mazal> More oom
[06:00] <mazal> maaz define frizzed
[06:00] <Maaz> mazal: Friz \Friz\, v. t. [imp. & p. p. {Frizzed}; p. pr. & vb. n. {Frizzing}.] [Cf. F. friser to curl, crisp, frizzle, to raise the nap (on certain stuffs); prob.akin to OFries. frisle hair of the head. Cf. {Frieze} kind of cloth.] [Written also {frizz}.] 1. To curl or form into small curls, as hair, with a crisping pin; to crisp. [1913 Webster] With her hair
[06:00] <Maaz> frizzed short up to her ears. --Pepys. [1913 Webster] 2. To form into little burs, prominen…
[06:00] <superfly> Oh, yeah, it's not physically freezing here
[06:00] <Kilos> hi mazal barrydk inetpro MaNI ThatGraemeGuy and other lurkers
[06:00] <superfly> But not too far off. 5 degrees.
[06:00] <Kilos> eish
[06:00] <Kilos> cold weather sucks
[06:01] <mazal> superfly: Where you again ?
[06:01] <ThatGraemeGuy> hellos
[06:01] <superfly> mazal: Cape Town
[06:01] <mazal> Ah , ThatGraemeGuy also yes ?
[06:01] <ThatGraemeGuy> eh
[06:01] * ThatGraemeGuy reads
[06:01] <Kilos> lol
[06:01] <mazal> CT
[06:01] <superfly> Yes. We actually used to work together
[06:02] <mazal> Don't you guys have freezing wind there atm ?
[06:02] <superfly> Something like that
[06:02] <ThatGraemeGuy> no the wind is still coming
[06:02] <mazal> Don't send any more this way please :P
[06:02] <superfly> Hahahaha
[06:03] <ThatGraemeGuy> any time from mid-July it starts properly
[06:03] <Kilos> hahaha
[06:03] <Kilos> its ThatGraemeGuy that does it to us
[06:03] <Kilos> he doesnt like getting cold on his own
[06:04] <mazal> maaz coffee on
[06:04] * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[06:04] <mazal> maaz huge
[06:04] <Maaz> mazal: Sorry...
[06:04] <mazal> maaz large
[06:04] <Maaz> In a beer mug just for you mazal
[06:04] <superfly> Ai, I don't understand these finger tapping people. Swiping to type is so much easier and faster
[06:04] <ThatGraemeGuy> my mommy always taught me to share
[06:05] <Kilos> hahaha
[06:05] <mazal> lol
[06:05] <Kilos> superfly explain
[06:05] <ThatGraemeGuy> Kilos: smartphone on-screen keyboards
[06:06] <Kilos> ah
[06:06] <superfly> Kilos: on most Android phones these days you can just swipe your finger over the letters you want and the keyboard will figure out what you're typing
[06:07] <Kilos> built in dictionary?
[06:07] <superfly> And yet everyone still uses one or two fingers and toes each letter individually
[06:07] <ThatGraemeGuy> voice commands ftw
[06:07] <superfly> Haha
[06:07] <superfly> Types, not toes
[06:07] <ThatGraemeGuy> OK Google, call the wife
[06:07] <Kilos> lol
[06:08] <superfly> ThatGraemeGuy: not so easy in the train
[06:08] <Kilos> ThatGraemeGuy what the kids say this morning
[06:08] <ThatGraemeGuy> he coughed a bit but that was at 5 instead of 1
[06:08] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for mazal!
[06:08] <Kilos> ah so it did make a change
[06:08] <mazal> maaz dankie
[06:08] <Maaz> Groot plesier mazal my vriend
[06:08] <mazal> maaz botsnack
[06:08] <Maaz> YAY someone cares about me too!
[06:09] <superfly> ThatGraemeGuy: maybe I should try that. Eldest has bad hay fever
[06:10] <Kilos> superfly did you turn off your away goodie?
[06:10] <Kilos> you showed active all day yesterday
[06:10] <ThatGraemeGuy> http://www.russellhobbs.co.za/appliance/seasonal-winter/eco-extreme-fan-heater.aspx <-- i got that one, it has a nice analogue temperature adjustment
[06:10] <superfly> Kilos: hrm
[06:10] <superfly> I'll have to investigate
[06:11] * mazal go gooi some dirt
[06:11] <ThatGraemeGuy> i set it on eco mode, with the temp about 1/3 to max and with the door open a few inches that warms the room up nicely
[06:11] <ThatGraemeGuy> not hot, just comfortable compared to the rest of the house
[06:12] <Kilos> oh you got a bigger stand up one
[06:12] <ThatGraemeGuy> its not that big, maybe 30cm high or less
[06:13] <Kilos> oh i only know the ones that lie flat
[06:13] <Kilos> similar thing though i think
[06:17] <superfly> Cape Town station. Work time. Later folks
[06:17] <Kilos> enjoy
[06:19] <mazal> Have a good day superfly
[06:45] <Squirm> Morning everyone
[06:48] <Kilos> hi Squirm
[06:52] * Squirm yawns
[06:52] <Squirm> Maaz: Coffee on
[06:52] * Maaz washes some mugs
[06:52] <Squirm> `How are you Kilos?
[06:52] <Kilos> good ty Squirm and you?
[06:53] <Kilos> Maaz coffee please
[06:53] <Maaz> Kilos: Alrighty
[06:53] <Squirm> I'm good :)
[06:53] <Kilos> :D
[06:54] <Kilos> Webtricity you still alive?
[06:56] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Squirm and Kilos!
[06:56] <Kilos> Maaz danke
[06:56] <Maaz> Bitteschön
[06:57] * Squirm dances
[06:57] <Squirm> Kilos: what's happening these days? I feel like I've been gone for a while
[06:58] <Kilos> shame on you Squirm you have been mia for a while
[06:58] <Kilos> i thought you fell in love
[06:58] <Squirm> But I did that almost 2 years ago :P
[06:58] <Kilos> lol
[06:59] <Kilos> normally new loves and divorces make peeps forget everything else
[07:00] <Squirm> Have just been busy I suppose
[07:00] <Kilos> ya that word covers lots, ian uses it even when he slept all day
[07:00] <mazal> Seems I must do a re-install. Might be away for a while
[07:00] <Kilos> ok
[07:01] <Kilos> why mazal
[07:01] <mazal> Now the million dollar question
[07:01] <Kilos> whats not working
[07:01] <mazal> iso with remaster or this new thingy
[07:01] <Kilos> wait man
[07:01] <Kilos> whats wrong first
[07:01] <mazal> New pc
[07:01] <Squirm> Kilos: True. But when you're busy, sleep is to counter the busy :D
[07:01] <Kilos> ah
[07:01] <mazal> no choice :P
[07:01] <Kilos> haha Squirm
[07:02] <mazal> l8tr guys , much l8tr , wish me luck
[07:02] <Kilos> i did a remaster sys on another drive last week so now i have a good copy of this kde spare
[07:02] <Kilos> good luck mazal
[07:02] <Squirm> mazal: that sentence makes no sense ;)
[07:03] <mazal> Which one Squirm ?
[07:03] <Squirm> "mazal: l8tr guys , much l8tr , wish me luck"
[07:03] <Squirm> Just messing with you, cheers
[07:03] <Kilos> lol
[07:03] <mazal> I rarely make any sence Squirm :P
[07:03] <Kilos> wait mazal
[07:03] <mazal> ja ?
[07:03] <Kilos> another one that makes no sense
[07:04] <Kilos> if its for a new pc why would it be a reinstall
[07:04] <Kilos> the one you on is still going right?
[07:04] <mazal> by re-install I mean with my iso
[07:04] <mazal> So let's call it iso install and data copy :)
[07:05] <Kilos> ok good luck then
[07:05] <mazal> cheers for now guys
[07:13] <barrydk> More almal
[07:50] <pieter2627> hi all
[07:51] <Kilos> hi pieter2627
[07:54] <pieter2627> oh Kilos, wanted to ask. Which car has such good mileage that a trip to dbn costs R6 - can't even find a choc with enough Kj to get me across the street :P
[07:54] <Kilos> lol
[07:55] <MaNI> tesla :p
[07:55] <pieter2627> lol
[07:56] <Kilos> that was in my DKW in 1971 i think
[07:59] <Kilos> but iirc i only earned R60 a month
[08:02] <pieter2627> 'only' - if a trip to dbn cost R6 then R60 is about R7 000+ today
[08:03] <Kilos> i have no idea what such a trip costs today
[08:03] <Kilos> and the deak wasnt very fuel efficient being a 2 stroke
[08:03] <MaNI> cars were less efficient then - R6 probably = two tanks now
[08:03] <MaNI> so need to double that :p
[08:05] <pieter2627> wow
[08:06] <Kilos> 1 $ was 63 of our cents
[08:06] <MaNI> cumulative inflation makes things crazy
[08:07] <MaNI> I mean if I just look at how much say the price of a basic large pizza has changed in my lifetime
[08:07] <pieter2627> cumulative anything is crazy
[08:08] <Kilos> i bouth a 3 bedroom house is toti for 25k
[08:08] <Kilos> bought
[08:10] <MaNI> heh yeah, vacant land on the mountain side, not uncommon to see the title deeds previous price be like R15k and now it is selling for over a million
[08:10] <Kilos> yeah
[08:11] <MaNI> it makes the prospect of trying to save for a meaningful retirement somewhat scary
[08:11] <MaNI> I mean what will everything cost in another 30 years
[08:11] <Kilos> thats the thing
[08:11] <Kilos> many peeps retirement funds are worthless by the time they retire
[08:12] <Kilos> you need large savings as well
[08:16] <Kilos> endownment funds and that kinda stuff
[08:17] <MaNI> personally the only reasonable way I see is to have some kind of asset/income that increases with inflation - a rental property or company or something
[08:18] <MaNI> otherwise the amount of funds you need to keep up is massive
[08:24] <Kilos> property was always a good investmnt
[08:25] <Kilos> but i dunno how safe that is today
[08:26] <Kilos> speak to the peeps at sanlam
[08:26] <MaNI> not for making a huge profit though, but rather it's a guaranteed income thats tied to inflation, I mean it is a rather safe bet that rent will continue to be more than food, so you can always live off a rental income :p
[08:26] <Kilos> yeah
[08:27] <Kilos> buying a house and renting it out is good and someone else pays your bond for you that way
[09:00] <mazal> Up and running again
[09:44] <Kilos> better pc mazal ?
[10:01] <Kilos> new tool or remastersys
[10:05] <mazal> Oom Kilos nope , on laptop now. Remastersys , I stay with what I know for now
[10:12] <Kilos> good
[10:37] <pieter2627> does anyone know what this dir is for - /var/lib/apt/lists/partial?
[10:39] <pieter2627> it is taking up 2.5Gb of disk space
[10:39] <ThatGraemeGuy> man apt-get
[10:41] <pieter2627> ty
[11:15] <mazal> Anybody know how to reset kwallet password ? If you don't know what it is ?
[11:16] <mazal> After I re-installed and copied back my home , kwallet password prompt keeps popping up , I have tried all my passwords but it won't go away
[11:18] <Cryterion> http://askubuntu.com/questions/22154/how-to-reset-a-password-from-kwallet
[11:20] <mazal> Thanx Cryterion
[11:21] <mazal> What does kwallet do ? I never even used it
[11:22] <Cryterion> not sure, that came up on google
[11:23] <Kilos> i think it remembers passwords or something
[11:23] <MaNI> it is kdes attempt at something like keepassx
[11:24] <mazal> Checking out wiki page of it now. Seems to be a passwords and credentials store yes
[11:36] <magespawn> good afternoon
[11:37] <Kilos> hi magespawn
[11:44] <mazal> Lo magespawn
[11:44] <mazal> Oom Kilos , the only thing that doesn't work is my battery indicator
[11:44] <mazal> It was working , and after I copied back my home it is not working
[11:44] <Kilos> mazal fix it
[11:45] <mazal> Just say no battery found
[11:45] <Kilos> something not installed like a battery sensor thing
[11:46] <mazal> Why was it working then before home was copied back
[11:46] <mazal> IE , what in home data can break something like that
[11:46] <Kilos> lol
[11:46] <mazal> That is a system app
[11:47] <Kilos> where is your home from another laptop?
[11:47] <mazal> Was a pc , still have backup on stick
[11:48] <mazal> So when the home from pc was copied onto laptop , it broke the battery indicator. ???
[11:48] <Kilos> something in desktop home doesnt see lappy battery
[11:48] <mazal> But what is the question
[11:49] <mazal> I can't even find setting or config on that indicator
[11:50] <Kilos> look in synaptic for indicators
[11:51] <mazal> This is a panel widget
[11:51] <Kilos> right click panel and see options
[11:51] <mazal> There isn't any , it only loads the power saving options. But no config for the indicator itself
[11:52] <Kilos> wait till one of the lappy peeps answer or google lots
[11:52] <Kilos> i know niks about lappies
[11:52] <mazal> Maybe reboot is required
[11:53] <Kilos> have you done update etc
[11:53] <mazal> Yeah , but already updated as it was my newest iso
[11:53] <mazal> No updates available
[11:53] <Kilos> ai!
[11:53] <mazal> I go ask google
[11:54] <Kilos> Maaz google ubuntu desktop /home disables battery indicator on laptop
[11:54] <Maaz> Kilos: "indicator - No battery status icon - Ask Ubuntu" http://askubuntu.com/questions/68445/no-battery-status-icon :: "How to disable mouse power status in indicator-power? - Ask Ubuntu" http://askubuntu.com/questions/361022/how-to-disable-mouse-power-status-in-indicator-power :: "Battery indicator missing, ubuntu 12.04 - Ask Ubuntu"
[11:54] <Maaz> http://askubuntu.com/questions/148971/battery-indicator-missing-ubuntu-12-04 :: "Tips to extend battery life for lapto…
[11:54] <Kilos> hmm...
[11:56] <ThatGraemeGuy> ditch KDE, use XFCE
[11:56] <ThatGraemeGuy> marvel at how much faster your PC is suddenly
[11:56] * ThatGraemeGuy runs away
[11:58] <mazal> hmm , XFCE you say. Kilos will kill me !! lol
[11:59] <mazal> Just gonna try a reboot and see if all feathers shakes itself in order
[12:04] <mazal> Ok that fixed it
[12:04] <mazal> Now I have a different problem
[12:04] <ThatGraemeGuy> the problem is still the same... KDE
[12:04] * ThatGraemeGuy runs again
[12:05] <mazal> How do I get the wireless to connect automatically without having to put the password in everytime the machine starts up ?
[12:05] <mazal> I did slect " connect automatically " and the wi-fi password is in the connection settings
[12:05] <ThatGraemeGuy> configure it to auto-connect, it's a property of the connection somewhere
[12:05] <ThatGraemeGuy> oh, then i don't know :-/
[12:06] <mazal> Even with that set , it still asks for password on boot ??
[12:06] <mazal> Oom Kilos , die KDE van jou !
[12:06] <ThatGraemeGuy> try to delete the wi-fi connection and re-add it
[12:07] <mazal> K lemme try that
[12:07] <ThatGraemeGuy> this is why we don't keep old homedirs with new installations
[12:08] <ThatGraemeGuy> re-installing to fix your problem is a very Windows thing to do anyway, it's never the answer with any distro that's even half-decent
[12:08] <Cryterion> There goes his wi-fi I guess
[12:09] <mazal> Uhm ok dumb question , how do I delete it ? Can't find a delete option on the current connection
[12:09] <ThatGraemeGuy> screenshot?
[12:09] <ThatGraemeGuy> I haven't done the KDE thing in quite a while
[12:10] <mazal> There is all the configs , and disconnect and connect , but no delete
[12:10] <ThatGraemeGuy> a picture is worth a thousand words :)
[12:11] <mazal> Doing pic.......
[12:12] <mazal> What app can I paste in KDE ?
[12:12] <mazal> KILOS !!!!!!!!!
[12:12] <Kilos> what?
[12:12] <Kilos> http://pasteboard.co
[12:12] <mazal> No
[12:12] <mazal> What app can I paste print screens to ?
[12:12] <Kilos> open that and drag drop the pic
[12:12] <mazal> That can also crop
[12:13] <ThatGraemeGuy> PrtScn key might be mapped to a screenshot app
[12:13] <mazal> Nope printscreen does nothing
[12:13] <Kilos> it puts a copy in home methinks
[12:13] <mazal> How ?
[12:13] <mazal> With what app ?
[12:14] <Kilos> after you push prntscreen
[12:14] <mazal> nope
[12:15] <mazal> And ksnapshot useless cos I have to click on system tray to get wi-fi screen open , then it disapears
[12:15] <Kilos> lol
[12:16] <ThatGraemeGuy> sudo apt-get install shutter
[12:16] <mazal> When I click on snapshot to get that back then wi-fi system tray gone again
[12:16] <Kilos> i only see gnome-screenshot
[12:16] <ThatGraemeGuy> take a photo with your phone
[12:16] <ThatGraemeGuy> lol
[12:16] <ThatGraemeGuy> poor man's screenshot
[12:16] <Kilos> my prntscrn button works
[12:16] <Kilos> lol
[12:16] <MaNI> ksnapshot has timer functionality
[12:17] <MaNI> amongst other things
[12:17] <MaNI> and should grab on printscreen as well
[12:17] <mazal> Kubuntu probably don't work on this laptop's fn keys :(
[12:17] <mazal> It's print screen key is a FN combo
[12:17] <MaNI> just use the 'snapshot delay' field then
[12:17] <ThatGraemeGuy> eish
[12:17] <ThatGraemeGuy> all these hoops, thanks KDE
[12:19] <MaNI> hardly kdes fault if his keys aren't set up right, that it has an extra feature that can help him anyway seems great not a hoop :p
[12:19] <Kilos> look in settings keyboard there might be something to find the screenshot button
[12:19] <mazal> Linux drivers problem that the FN key don't work
[12:20] <ThatGraemeGuy> funny, my DE has a nice shortcut on PrtScn, I didn't even need to do anything
[12:20] <ThatGraemeGuy> so yes, thanks KDE!
[12:20] <MaNI> ThatGraemeGuy, so does kde.
[12:20] <mazal> Doesn't work
[12:20] <MaNI> printscreen opens ksnapshot with the current screen grabbed (except in this case because there is some keyboard issue)
[12:21] <mazal> I did that delay now , it takes snapshot , but system tray popup is not showed in snapshot
[12:21] <MaNI> what capture mode?
[12:21] <ThatGraemeGuy> sounds like derp mode
[12:22] <ThatGraemeGuy> must recompile KDE with the correct config options
[12:22] <MaNI> works for me
[12:22] <ThatGraemeGuy> try --derp-by-default=NoThanks and --try-to-be-cleverer-than-the-user=NEVER
[12:23] <mazal> There's no mode setting I can find on ksnapshot
[12:23] <MaNI> what version of kde are you on?
[12:23] * ThatGraemeGuy hopes nobody is taking him seriously
[12:23] <mazal> 14.04.1
[12:24] <magespawn> lol @ ThatGraemeGuy
[12:24] <mazal> ksnapshot itself is 0.8.2
[12:24] <MaNI> okay, well can't explain that it should grab the full screen by default and that would include any popups
[12:25] <MaNI> mine is also 0.8.2
[12:26] <MaNI> if capture mode is set to 'window under cursor' that could do it, but if you don't see a capture mode setting I don't know why that would be
[12:27] <mazal> Hang on , I found that
[12:27] <mazal> Is full screen currently
[12:34] <mazal> Finally , got 2 snapshots that worked
[12:36] <mazal> Pic 1 - system icon - config and disconnect. No delete
[12:36] <mazal> http://picpaste.com/1-p3voXfkL.png
[12:38] <mazal> Pic 2 - config setting - no delete options
[12:38] <mazal> http://picpaste.com/4-XDb3ufST.png
[12:39] <magespawn> mazal are you trying to delete the wireless connection?
[12:40] <mazal> magespawn: The original problem is that it doesn't want to keep the password. Even though it is in , I must put password in every time the laptop boots
[12:40] <mazal> So wanted to try and delete the connection and re-create
[12:40] <magespawn> ahh right
[12:40] <mazal> Got to run guys sorry
[12:41] <mazal> l8tr
[12:41] <magespawn> no worries been a while since i used kde
[12:43] <magespawn> Maaz tell mazal http://www.kubuntu.org/docs/kquickguide/C/ch03s07.html
[12:43] <Maaz> magespawn: Sure, I'll tell mazal on freenode
[13:09] <mazal> magespawn, still around ?
[13:11] <mazal> maaz tell magespawn I get "url not found" on that link
[13:11] <Maaz> mazal: Okay, I'll tell magespawn on freenode
[13:12] <Kilos> ai! mazal it works here
[13:16] <mazal> maaz tell magespawn Never mind , I found a typo in the link
[13:16] <Maaz> mazal: Okay, I'll tell magespawn on freenode
[13:17] <mazal> But will have to wait for tomorrow , I'm at home now
[13:17] <Kilos> ok
[13:18] <mazal> Don't have permission for removal for that laptop yet
[13:18] <Kilos> lol
[13:18] <mazal> I don't think I will get anyway
[13:27] <gremble> o/
[13:27] <Kilos> o/
[13:49] <Squirm> 'lo
[13:49] <Squirm> superfly: Hey
[13:50] <superfly> hi
[13:50] <superfly> ah, Kilos
[13:50] <superfly> I didn't notice Quassel running here... no wonder I'm "active"
[13:51] <magespawn> yup mazal ley me check again
[13:51] <Maaz> magespawn: By the way, mazal on freenode told me "tell magespawn I get "url not found" on that link" 39 minutes and 31 seconds ago
[13:51] <Maaz> magespawn: By the way, mazal on freenode told me "tell magespawn Never mind , I found a typo in the link" 34 minutes and 19 seconds ago
[13:51] <magespawn> lol
[13:52] <gremble> For the next 4 weeks I don't even have to put on pants in the morning. Sometimes being a student isn't all that bad
[13:54] <Kilos> lol
[13:55] <Kilos> thats good superfly at least nothing is broken
[14:06] <magespawn> homw timw chat later
[14:07] <magespawn> home time too
[14:17] <Squirm> superfly: check your pm when you have a gap ^^
[14:19] <inetpro> good mornings
[14:19] <Kilos> hi inetpro
[14:20] <inetpro> oh hi oom Kilos as well
[14:20] <Kilos> hahaha
[14:20] <Kilos> after thought
[14:20] <Kilos> i dont nag enough
[14:23] <gremble> nag or nap?
[14:23] <Kilos> nag
[14:23] <gremble> I don't think there is something like "enough" naps
[14:23] <Kilos> when i nag him lots he even greets in the real morning
[14:23] <gremble> Haha
[14:23] <Kilos> now he says morning in the avy to make us think he didnt forget
[15:53] * inetpro surprised to see no loadshedding today
[15:53] <inetpro> yet
[15:54] <inetpro> maybe they'll start it before 20:00 just to spite me again
[15:54] <Kilos> lol
[16:01] <MaNI> they have to have a few days without so that people can't claim they are doing it "because they didn't get the increase" :p
[16:04] <Kilos> lol
[16:15] <gremble> They're a bunch of knobs
[16:15] <Kilos> aw grumbles i saw a link to some chicks thats a maths wiz somewhere
[16:16] <Kilos> might have even been twitter
[16:16] <gremble> Sounds like fun
[16:16] <Kilos> i dont often go there but if i see it again ill tell you
[16:17] <Kilos> you two could xyz each other
[16:18] <gremble> Haha that does sound like fun
[16:18] <gremble> :P
[16:18] <Kilos> hehe
[16:39] <gremble> Are you guys all ready for the leap second?
[16:39] <gremble> I'm hoping it brings about a new world order
[16:39] <Kilos> ai!
[17:34] <Kilos> ohi Symmetria where you been?
[17:41] <CuttingEdge> i see the cd mirror for ubuntu i submitted, quietly went 'official'
[17:42] <Kilos> cool beans CuttingEdge
[17:42] <CuttingEdge> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+mirror/ubuntu.mirror.neology.co.za-release
[18:01] <magespawn> good evening
[18:07] <gremble> hey magespawn
[18:07] <magespawn> hi gremble
[18:08] <Kilos> hi magespawn
[18:09] <magespawn> hey hey
[18:11] <magespawn> just bought my first shoe polish in about 20 years
[18:11] <gremble> Are you going to teach your kids how to shine your shoes for you?
[18:12] <Kilos> lol
[18:12] <magespawn> might not be a bad idea
[18:12] <magespawn> they do not really were shoes at the moment though
[18:12] <Kilos> wear
[18:12] <gremble> That is why I said your shoes. Not theirs
[18:14] <magespawn> indeed, it will be needed next year when my son goes to high school
[18:14] <magespawn> ty Kilos
[18:14] <Kilos> for?
[18:14] <Kilos> oh
[18:14] <Kilos> yw
[18:14] <gremble> In my first week of high school we had to shine the matrics' shoes almost daily
[18:15] <Kilos> fly too busy
[18:15] <gremble> The people that build django are very clever
[18:16] <gremble> built
[18:17] <magespawn> that is a python framework, right?
[18:17] <gremble> Yup
[18:18] <gremble> A friend of mine wants to build an app but he cannot code. So I am partnering up with him.
[18:18] <Kilos> lol says he who hated coding
[18:19] <Kilos> but you are good at it so carry on
[18:19] <gremble> I do dislike it quite a lot. But for some reason I am not too shit at it. So now I just go with it
[18:19] <Kilos> good
[18:20] <Kilos> the more you do the more you will like it
[18:20] <gremble> Besides, it feels nice to build something. I don't have the skills necessary or the place to build something with my hands, so I guess this is what I will make do
[18:20] <Kilos> good
[18:30] <magespawn> okay shoes polished
[18:30] <Kilos> lol
[18:30] <inetpro> CuttingEdge: well done!
[18:32] <magespawn> like i said about the first time in almost 20 years
[18:32] <Kilos> well then you have had a good break magespawn
[18:33] <magespawn> indeed
[18:33] <Kilos> so whats with the shoes that need polish now?
[18:33] <Kilos> peeps only wear them to church and interviews
[18:34] <Kilos> ohi superfly it be fixed now
[18:34] <inetpro> hmm...
[18:35] <inetpro> launchpad buggy this evening?
[18:35] <Kilos> Maaz hmm...
[18:35] <Maaz> hmm... is often used to try make others believe one is actually thinking
[18:35] <mazal> lol
[18:35] <Kilos> inetpro im giving 3 weeks notice
[18:35] <inetpro> got message "Uh oh! Something has gone wrong..."
[18:36] <Kilos> can you please arrange a date and time to chair an africa meeting
[18:36] <inetpro> Kilos: 3 weeks notice?
[18:36] <inetpro> ai!
[18:36] <Kilos> preferable a day you dont load shed
[18:36] <Kilos> no ai! me man , you a good chair
[18:37] <Kilos> superfly can you also try make it to the first africa meet please
[18:37] <Kilos> you guys choose a date
[18:37] <Kilos> or a day that suits you that is then i can squeeze others to fall in
[18:38] <Kilos> inetpro where did you get that message from?
[18:38] <superfly> almost any day, after 20:30 SAST
[18:39] <Kilos> great ty then we can follow pros choice
[18:39] <inetpro> Kilos: simply going to https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[18:39] <Kilos> works fine inetpro
[18:39] <Kilos> get a decent browser
[18:39] <inetpro> but it's intermittent
[18:39] <Kilos> hee hee
[18:39] <Kilos> i been waiting to say that
[18:40] <Kilos> how intermittent
[18:40] <Kilos> im there first time with 2 browsers
[18:41] <inetpro> Kilos: don't worry about it
[18:41] <Kilos> haha
[18:42] <inetpro> works now... I'm not the only one who noticed it... others at #launchpad also got the error
[18:42] <magespawn> Kilos: i have only recently started wearing them
[18:42] <CuttingEdge> inetpro: i saw some random issue earlier too
[18:43] <Kilos> no man inetpro dont find other excuses now
[18:43] <inetpro> Kilos: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/06/30/%23launchpad.html#t17:45
[18:44] <Kilos> hahaha
[18:44] <Kilos> i was just trying to rag you about your fox man
[18:45] <inetpro> Kilos: the fox has very little to do with it
[18:45] <Kilos> oh yes it has
[18:45] <Kilos> same as my opera battles at times
[18:46] <Kilos> gotta blaim something
[18:46] <Kilos> blame
[18:46] <inetpro> Kilos: you want a screenshot of chromium with the error?
[18:46] <Kilos> nono
[18:46] <Kilos> you use chr4omium too
[18:46] <Kilos> sigh
[18:46] <gremble> Kilos: its blame
[18:46] <gremble> :P
[18:47] <gremble> Browsers are in such a shit place right now :(
[18:47] <Kilos> im using epiphany and midori quite a bit as well now
[18:47] <inetpro> Kilos: when something fails I try to find the cause through testing different scenarios
[18:47] <Kilos> and poor opera open daily to over 20 links
[18:48] <Kilos> yes thats why i always say inetpro fixit
[18:48] <Kilos> i may be stupid but im not a fool
[18:55] <inetpro> Kilos: that doesn't mean that my tests are foolproof
[18:55] <Kilos> yes but you dont stop till its fixed
[18:56] <inetpro> hmm...
[18:57] <Kilos> im gonna try my first 3g telkom bundle in the morning
[19:04] <Squirm> Evening
[19:04] <Kilos> hi Squirm
[19:06] <magespawn> Kilos: checking the speed?
[19:07] <Kilos> eeek slow tonight
[19:07] <Kilos> http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/4471070500
[19:08] <Kilos> will tweet them again tomorrow
[19:08] <Kilos> haha
[19:09] <Kilos> oh inetpro you made that launchpad africa thing lekker
[19:09] <Kilos> one can even add peeps
[19:09] <Kilos> havent found how to add them to the mailing list yet
[19:26] <mazal> Night all
[19:26] <Kilos> night all too from me
[19:26] <Kilos> sleep tight
[20:38] <magespawn> bedtime for me, good night all
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2015-06-30-#kubuntu-devel
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[07:20] <ovidiu-florin> hello friends
[07:20] <ovidiu-florin> good morning
[07:24] <soee> hiho
[07:26] <Tm_T> moin
[08:15] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:33] <clivejo> Riddell: when building in pbuilder, is the environment destroyed after?
[09:33] <Riddell> clivejo: yes
[09:33] <Riddell> it's why I only use pbuilder for a final check
[09:33] <Riddell> and normally build either on my local system if I think it's close enough to where I want to put the package or in a manual chroot
[09:34] <clivejo> there was a few missing files in the pbuild I run last night
[09:34] <clivejo> took a few hours :/
[09:35] <clivejo> so quilt is used more for host OS changes to CMAKE files
[09:36] <clivejo> ie for debian
[09:38] <Riddell> any patch we want to apply, maybe we want to put unicorns in the default kword template
[09:38] <Riddell> but in kubuntu at least we have a policy against unicorns (sorry sitter) because they should be applied upstream in KDE
[09:38] <sitter> :O
[09:38] <Riddell> otherwise it becomes impossible to maintain and the quality drops, as you discovered by just trying to update a few patches here
[09:39] <Riddell> so patches are only added when something is really needed in kubuntu and not needed upstream in KDE which is rare, or maybe a fix from upstream KDE we take that isn't in the released tar
[09:39] <Riddell> debian have their own rules of course, and we take from debian so lots of our patches (managed by quilt) are from them
[09:39] <clivejo> can you give an example of a Kubuntu patch applied by us?
[09:40] <Riddell> debian/patches/kubuntu_qtquick-plugin-directory.diff for example
[09:40] <Riddell> in calligra
[09:40] <Riddell> which we need because we use funky multiarch paths to allow i386 and amd64 stuff to be co-installable
[09:41] <sitter> judging from the name it is a patch that shouldn't be there :P
[09:41] <Riddell> so ${CMAKE_INSTALL_LIBDIR} isn't what upstream expects it to be
[09:41] <sitter> description confirms
[09:41] <Riddell> so we change it
[09:41] <Riddell> but as sitter says, maybe there's a better way I didn't think of at the time where it could be fixed upstream for everyone
[09:41] <Riddell> to be fair I did ask boud from calligra when I wrote that and he said it was the right thing to do
[09:42] <sitter> http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=phonon.git&a=blob&h=3ec9d2f5b5e8768ea160fb33d7128e863b8edfff&hb=f9a268d386f0dcaece6232bf5c9e4b87ebc37cef&f=CMakeLists.txt#l127
[09:44] <sitter> Riddell: patch becomes obsolete with kf5 port since ECM implements what phonon had 5 years ago in a more generic manner :P
[09:44] <Riddell> :)
[10:09] <clivejo> why is there a policy against unicorns?
[10:18] <Riddell> clivejo: unicorns are fine if upstream adds them, but unicorns added only in kubuntu could become unsustainable, we don't have the stables or vet skills needed
[10:19] <Riddell> and where would we supply all the fairy dust needed from?
[10:19] <Riddell> and if they died because we didn't have enough fairy dust think of the bad publicity
[10:20] <clivejo> discrimation!
[10:21] <clivejo> discrimination :P
[10:21] <sitter> well, we don't accept ponies either
[10:22] <Riddell> sgclark: I'm moving about the qa.kubuntu build status pages, which one are you using?
[10:23] <clivejo> thei debuild is so long!!
[10:23] <clivejo> really is a winter activity
[10:25] <sitter> search for ccache and icecream/icecc and eatmydata and check debuild's -nc option
[10:25] <sitter> also
[10:25] <sitter> Riddell: didn't I have a hook for pbuilder to drop to terminal?
[10:25] <sitter> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto#Using_the_Kubuntu_pbuilder_hooks look, I am famous
[10:25] <sitter> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/pbuilder/pbuilder-hooks/view/head:/C10shell
[10:26] <sitter> there, most useful hook ever
[10:26] <sitter> someone really needs to rewrite pbuilder on top of lxc
[10:26] <Riddell> lxc? isn't it all docker these days?
[10:27] <sitter> same tech, different frontends
[10:28] <sitter> OTOH docker has a proper ruby api gem, so there's that xD
[11:05] * seaLne pokes people coming to akademy to register https://akademy.kde.org/2015/register
[11:45] <sebas> seaLne: is BoF registration already open?
[11:49] <seaLne> it will be the same as previous years, not sure if anyone has created the wiki pages yet. biab
[12:23] <sgclark> Riddell: I am not using any status pages yet. No where close to that point yet.
[12:24] <Riddell> :(
[12:24] <sgclark> makes me really come to appreciate our scripts haha
[12:57] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:51] <soee> oh shutdown fixed in Plasma 5.3.2 :D
[13:51] * soee happy
[14:55] <clivejo> Riddell: still getting this error - dpkg-shlibdeps: error: couldn't find library liblibglobal.so.14 needed by debian/krita/usr/lib/kde4/kritalutdocker.so (ELF format: 'elf64-x86-64'; RPATH: '')
[14:56] <Riddell> clivejo: ignore that one, it's installed specially in debian/rules
[14:56] <Riddell> because it doesn't exist in arm
[14:59] <Riddell> ah, can't ignore it, it's an shlibs error
[15:00] <Riddell> pastebin debian/krita/usr/lib/kde4/kritalutdocker.so ?
[15:05] <Riddell> clivejo: looks like libglobal is indeed a new library, just add it to krita.install
[15:05] <Riddell> it's probably in debian/tmp/usr/lib/liblibglobal.so.1234
[15:08] <clivejo> there are 3
[15:08] <clivejo> ./usr/lib/liblibglobal.so.14.0.0, liblibglobal.so, liblibglobal.so.14
[15:09] <clivejo> so just use the so.14 one?
[15:14] <clivejo> I added it to krita.install, but stil getting the error - dpkg-shlibdeps: error: couldn't find library liblibglobal.so.14 needed by debian/krita/usr/lib/kde4/kritatooltransform.so (ELF format: 'elf64-x86-64'; RPATH: '')
[15:14] <clivejo> this is where I got stuck last time
[15:16] <clivejo> ah
[15:17] <clivejo> not-installed must override *.install
[15:22] <clivejo> still complaining about it!
[15:28] <clivejo> Riddell: any ideas?
[15:36] <clivejo> maybe Im putting them in wrong package, should I try calligra-libs instead of krita?
[15:40] <clivejo> the readme me doesnt mention anything about liblibglobal :/
[16:13] <seaLne> sebas: we will be announcing the BoFs shortly
[16:57] <ahoneybun> please please get 5.3.2 out fast as it has a fix for shutting down!
[17:23] <ahoneybun> oohhhh: http://www.phoronix.com/image-viewer.php?id=kde-vdg-design&image=kde_vdg_muon_lrg
[18:17] <lordievader> That looks quite slick, actually :)
[18:50] <Lumby_> Is it normal for kscreen to not be included in kde-plasma-desktop?
[19:20] <mhall119> ahoneybun: the Ubuntu phone Telegram client uses libqtelegram (https://launchpad.net/libqtelegram) which as far as I know isn't a Telepathy plugin
[19:20] <ahoneybun> there was/is work from a GSOC
[19:20] <ahoneybun> mhall119: ^
[19:21] <ahoneybun> https://akulichalexandr.wordpress.com/2014/05/26/telegram-connection-manager-gsoc-2014-task-overview/
[19:22] <ahoneybun> https://akulichalexandr.wordpress.com/2015/03/24/telegram-connection-manager-the-first-release-is-going-on/
[19:22] <mhall119> thanks ahoneybun, I'll pass that on to the ubuntu client devs, I think they wanted to make it use Telepathy eventually
[19:23] <ahoneybun> cool
[19:29] <mhall119> ahoneybun: you can join #ubuntu-telegram too if you're interested in that client
[19:32] <ahoneybun> mhall119: I've been using Cutegram as it is Qt based and nice
[19:48] <clivejo> does anyone know where the file liblibglobal.so.14 shoud go in calligra?
[19:49] <clivejo> I cant get past this error - dpkg-shlibdeps: error: couldn't find library liblibglobal.so.14 needed by debian/krita/usr/lib/kde4/kritatooltransform.so (ELF format: 'elf64-x86-64'; RPATH: '')
[19:50] <clivejo> Ive tried putting it in krita and calligra-libs
[19:51] <Mamarok> clivejo: at some point, they used to have good build isntructions in the wiki, did you check there?
[19:55] <Mamarok> but such a library should be in /usr/lib/, noramlly, since it is a global one
[19:55] <Mamarok> normally*
[19:56] <clivejo> there are 3 with simular names tmp/usr/lib/liblibglobal.so.14.0.0, liblibglobal.so, liblibglobal.so.14
[19:57] <Mamarok> why tmp/usr/lib/?
[19:57] <clivejo> but the error message seems to suggesst it needs the liblibglobal.so.14 file, so I added it to the krita.install
[19:58] <clivejo> thats where the build puts them?
[19:58] <clivejo> debian/tmp?
[19:58] <Mamarok> I would assume those all belong to /usr/lib/, and isn't that all the same file?
[19:58] <clivejo> no, there are 3 separate files
[19:58] <Mamarok> weird
[19:59] <Mamarok> how about asking in #calligra?
[19:59] <clivejo> I have just done that
[20:00] <clivejo> how do I verify that the file is actually being installed into krita.deb?
[20:00] <clivejo> is adding it to krita.install enough, or is there somewhere else?
[20:02] <clivejo> in rpm pacakges it seems to be installed into calligra-krita-libs-2.9.5-1.fc23
[20:02] <clivejo> but debian dont seem to have that package
[20:04] <clivejo> also that file doesnt seem to be mentioned in the README.PACKAGER file either :/
[20:30] <clivejo> Mamarok: if I change a *.install file to include a new file in the package, do I have to do a clean debuild?
[20:31] <Riddell> clivejo: no run Dh_install
[20:31] <clivejo> does debuild -nc not do that?
[20:34] <ahoneybun> damn ovidiu-florin
[20:35] <clivejo> regarding the User map, could I suggest you use OSM?
[20:37] <ovidiu-florin> clivejo: if someone will do it, they are free to do so
[20:37] <ovidiu-florin> currently it's abandoned
[20:40] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: seems we can edit files on github
[20:40] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: yes we can
[20:40] <ovidiu-florin> but please don't
[20:40] <ovidiu-florin> let's just edit on the test site
[20:40] <ovidiu-florin> so we can confirm our edits
[20:41] <ahoneybun> d.k.org?
[20:41] <ovidiu-florin> what?
[20:41] <ahoneybun> docs.kubuntu.org
[20:41] <ovidiu-florin> I wasn't talking about that
[20:41] <ovidiu-florin> so, here it goes:
[20:41] <ahoneybun> k
[20:42] <ovidiu-florin> Current site: http://www.kubuntu.org/ Test site (only for development of the site): http://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/ New site (ready to go in production?): https://www-new.kubuntu.org/
[20:45] <ahoneybun> once we/you get a theme up for the d.k.org domain, I'll move over everything there
[20:46] <ovidiu-florin> let's launch the site first, and then work on that. ahoneybun do you agree?
[20:46] <ahoneybun> of course
[20:46] <ahoneybun> let's get your baby out the door first
[20:50] <clivejo> ok liblibglobal.so.14 is a sym link to liblibglobal.so.14.0.0
[20:50] <clivejo> what on earth is that in aid of?
[20:55] <ovidiu-florin> I'm off to bed
[20:55] <ovidiu-florin> good night
[20:56] <sick_rimmit> I would very much like to be part of the Team, if that would be possible
[20:57] <sick_rimmit> ovidiu-florin: nite nite see you tomorrow
[20:58] <ovidiu-florin> sick_rimmit: the website team?
[20:59] <sick_rimmit> No, sorry I saw your emails on that, thank you
[20:59] <sick_rimmit> No I meant on the Kubuntu Team page
[20:59] <ovidiu-florin> aaaa, I have nothing against it
[21:00] <ovidiu-florin> HUMANS: you on board with this ^
[21:00] * ovidiu-florin ZZZZZzzzz.....
[21:01] * clivejo nods
[21:03] * clivejo needs a cold shower
[21:54] <valorie> everybody who helps out here should be on the team page
[23:16] <clivejo> has Nxt Stage 2 been disabled?
[23:18] <clivejo> humm seems so
[23:30] <sgclark> valorie: It is not suppose to be this HOT up here!!!
[23:30] <valorie> indeed
[23:30] <valorie> although I was able to work outside for 15-20 mins
[23:30] <valorie> but sheesh
[23:31] <valorie> and it is predicted to go on......
[23:31] <sgclark> yeah been out in it, yucky :(
[23:31] <valorie> poor people, poor plants, poor forests!
[23:31] <sgclark> yeah, no relief in sight is the weather report, ugh
[23:31] <sgclark> I know, my poor flowers are crying
[23:31] <valorie> I get to go up to the cabin this weekend where it's nice and cool
[23:31] <valorie> at least in the cabin
[23:32] <sgclark> oh nice!
[23:32] <clivejo> how do I make a comment on Trello?
[23:32] <valorie> yes, watering the flowers and other plants that need it take like an hour
[23:32] <valorie> clivejo: do you have an account?
[23:32] <clivejo> just signed up
[23:32] <valorie> ok
[23:33] <sgclark> clivejo: Riddell will have to invite you to board
[23:33] <clivejo> Im interested in this card - https://trello.com/c/1KfVhhjf/2-kubuntu-users-map
[23:33] <kubotu> [Kubuntu Promotion :: Ideas :: Kubuntu Users Map ++ SI]
[23:33] <valorie> I might have admin powerz, checking
[23:33] <clivejo> and to use OpenStreetMap instead of GoogleMaps
[23:34] <valorie> clivejo: did you join the kubuntu group?
[23:34] <valorie> I don't see you on the list of members
[23:35] <valorie> sgclark: do you have good a/c in your place?
[23:35] <valorie> mine is a life-saver
[23:35] <valorie> my next-door neighbor opted not to get a heat pump, and they are so regretting it this summer
[23:36] <clivejo> silly question, but how do a join a board!?!
[23:36] <valorie> oh, it's called subscribe
[23:36] <valorie> there is a menu button up on the right top
[23:38] <clivejo> I must be blind
[23:38] <clivejo> cant see subscribe or join board anywhere
[23:38] <clivejo> Ive starred the board
[23:39] <valorie> can you give me a screenie of what you are seeing?
[23:40] <sgclark> valorie: yes, funny enough we decided to get a full A/C unit this year, best decision we ever made lol
[23:41] <valorie> sure, but that just puts it in your most view stuff, clivejo
[23:41] <valorie> sgclark: oh, good
[23:41] <clivejo> http://s8.postimg.org/91bmj0qph/trello.jpg
[23:41] <valorie> not as good as cooler weather, but at least you live though a heat wave
[23:42] <valorie> clivejo: see the menu button on the top-right?
[23:42] <valorie> click that and a menu will come down
[23:42] <clivejo> yup
[23:42] <clivejo> but no subscribe in there
[23:42] <valorie> :(
[23:42] <valorie> no join or ?
[23:44] <clivejo> Profile, Cards, Settings, Help, Apps, Shortcuts, Share Trello, Getting started guide,trello blog, change language, log out
[23:44] <valorie> pfff
[23:44] <valorie> well, perhaps Riddell has to invite you
[23:44] <valorie> I don't see a way to do that
[23:44] <valorie> as sgclark says
[23:46] <clivejo> must have to be added
[23:48] <valorie> oh gosh, already time to make dinner
[23:48] <clivejo> valorie: are you on wily?
[23:48] <valorie> not yet
[23:49] <valorie> I'm thinking about trying to upgrade the other laptop, but since networking is dead on it, sort of hard to do that
[23:49] <valorie> for now I'm stuck on this old slow one
[23:49] <clivejo> how did it die?
[23:50] <valorie> seems like the card itself flickered for awhile like a guttering candle
[23:50] <valorie> then died altogether
[23:50] <valorie> I tried a USB wireless thing but nothing
[23:50] <clivejo> is the card being recognised?
[23:54] <clivejo> BluesKaj: will you be around in a free hours?
[23:54] <clivejo> few
[23:57] <ahoneybun> clivejo: do you have a trello account?
[23:58] <clivejo> ahoneybun: yes, just created one
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2015-06-30-#ubuntu-br
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[01:10] <fabio> boa noite
[01:10] <astroo-> ola
[01:11] <fabio> Gostaria de solicitar o ubunto
[01:11] <fabio> voces podem me mandar 2 midia para mim
[01:11] <astroo-> pede a 1 amigo que saque e ponha num dvd ou pen drive
[01:12] <fabio> voces nao envia mais midia com capa?
[01:14] <fabio> podem me mandar uma midia do ubunto?
[01:15] <astroo-> que eu saiba nao existe ha anos
[01:15] <astroo-> media e o ubuntu em si certo?
[01:15] <fabio> ha blz vou ficar no windowns mesmo melhor
[01:16] <astroo-> nao tem amigos...
[01:38] <rafaelsoaresbr> kkkkkkk
[01:39] <rafaelsoaresbr> carente
[02:09] <ceollo> ola gente
[02:09] <astroo-> ola
[02:10] <ceollo> instalei o linux faz pouco tempo
[02:10] <ceollo> estou explorando as possibilidades
[02:11] <astroo-> ok
[02:12] <ceollo> esbarrei entao num artigo na internet sobre irc rodando no terminal
[02:12] <ceollo> me deu uma nostalgia do tempo que acessava bbs via discada
[02:46] <astroo-> ciao pessoal
[03:25] <YokoBR> galere
[03:25] <YokoBR> alguém aí?
[03:33] <vinnys> minha area de trabalho do ubuntu sumiu as barras laterais e nenhum comando do teclado funciona socorro
[03:34] <vinnys> parece que tudo que estava programado sumiu
[03:37] <vinnys> alguem me ajuda
[03:37] <vinnys> sumiu tudo
[06:36] <dlb> estou com problemas relacionado a desconfiguração do teclado
[06:36] <dlb> Uso o Ubuntu 15.04
[06:37] <dlb> só funciona o mouse
[06:38] <dlb> com isso não consigo acessar o terminal
[11:30] <Magno> BOm dia
[11:30] <Magno> Alguém pode me ajudar?
[11:30] <Magno> tenho algumas dúvidas e preciso de alguém que possa me audar
[11:31] <Magno> tenho algumas dúvidas e preciso de alguém que possa me ajudar
[11:33] <Rudolf> Magno: já procurou no google/duckduckgo/yahoo sobre suas dúvidas?
[11:34] <Magno> não, eu queria saber se alguém pode me ajudar a colocar o dowload da iso do ubuntu desktop, em um pendrive para fazer a instalação do pen drive
[11:34] <Rudolf> Magno: no google tem
[11:35] <Rudolf> Magno: alias, pelo que lembro tem na documentação do ubuntu
[11:35] <Magno> show, vamos então na documentação
[11:35] <Rudolf> Magno: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[11:36] <Rudolf> Magno: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[11:36] <Rudolf> boa leitura
[11:36] <Magno> Rudolf obrigado
[11:36] <Rudolf> disponha
[11:37] <Magno> mestre
[15:11] <Leonardo_> ola
[15:11] <Leonardo_> preciso de ajuda \
[15:15] <Rudolf> Leonardo_: seja direto. pergunte. se alguém souber, te responderá
[15:16] <Leonardo_> preciso de ajuda para atualizar o driver de video .
[15:17] <Rudolf> Leonardo_: qual o erro?
[15:21] <Leonardo_> Nao consigo abrir um programa ... Diz: a versao do open GL e insuficiente ... Atualize os drivers graficos
[15:22] <Rudolf> Leonardo_: qual sua placa de video (chipset)? apt-get update / apt-get upgrade não foi suficiente?
[15:24] <Leonardo_> Intel® 915GM x86/MMX/SSE2
[15:24] <Leonardo_> hm...
[15:26] <Rudolf> Leonardo_: qual sua versão do ubuntu?
[15:37] <Leonardo_> 15
[15:44] <Leonardo_> supporte ?
[16:18] <mirqui> boa tarde :)
[17:26] <alan3> Olá pessoal
[17:27] <alan3> Estou com uma dúvida: meu processador é 64 bits (Intel Atom N2600) com 2G de memória. Eu posso usar o Ubuntu de 64 bits ou melhor o 32 bits mesmo?
[17:28] <Elfon> alan3: nesse caso acredito que o 32 ficaria mais rápido
[17:28] <Elfon> mas nada impede de instalar o 32
[17:29] <Elfon> mas com pouca memória talvez tenha que mudar o ambiente gráfico...talvez um lxde (Lubuntu)
[17:30] <alan3> Entendido. Obrigado !
[18:23] <CyL> Elfon: Só a título de informação, se o processador suporta a versão 64 bits, não há motivo nenhum para instalar a versão 32 bits
[18:26] <Elfon> CyL: até onde sei só seria necessário acima de 8 gigas de RAM. Porque entre 4 e 8 existe um treco no kernel que faz funcionar...antes o 32 só funcionava até 4 gigas
[18:26] <Elfon> eu sempre usei 64...inclusive quando tinha 4 gigas de ram
[18:27] <Elfon> funfa de boa...mas dizem que 64 pesa um pouco mais que a 32...(mas isso eu nunca vi diferença)....deve ficar mais evidente em pcs limitados
[18:28] <Elfon> CyL: no caso do alan3 o pc dele é limitado
[18:28] <Elfon> CyL_: 2 gigas de ram é pouco pra ambiente gráfico do tipow kde e unity
[18:28] <Elfon> e rodar isso com 64 acho que fica meio pesado e lento
[18:31] <Bertoldi> Boa tarde! Estou tentando criar um dual boot já fiz a instalação do windows 7 e agora estou tendo problemas na hora de criar partição para o ubuntu 15
[18:43] <mirqui> boa tarde :)
[18:46] <Rudolf> mirqui: tarde
[18:46] <Rudolf> mirqui: chuva aí tumem?
[18:47] <mirqui> ahaha acontece ;)
[19:27] <CyL_> Elfon: A arquitetura do processador em nada influencia o desempenho
[19:28] <CyL_> Elfon: Dizer que 64 bits pesa mais que 32 bits é um mito
[19:29] <CyL_> Elfon: e a quantidade de memória é irrelevante no caso de se usar a arquitetura de 64 bits
[19:30] <Rudolf> CyL_: você mudou de nick só para eu te ver né
[19:30] <CyL_> Elfon: O "treco" a que você se referiu é chamado de PAE, e permite a processadores de 32 bits endereçarem mais de 4 giga de RAM que é o máximo suportado nativamente pela arquitetura
[19:31] <CyL_> Elfon: Mas se tiver mais do que 4 gigas de RAM, e puder escolher, usar 64 bits é muito melhor do que usar PAE
[19:55] <Elfon> CyL_: veja bem...o cara que perguntou no canal tinha uma máquina com 2Gb de Ram...se ele quer rodar o ubuntu com unity iria dar trabalho
[20:15] <Rudolf> unity == trabalho
[20:20] <Fabio> which error reason below:
[20:21] <Fabio> systemd-logind[3406]: Falied to start user service: Unknow unit: [email protected]
[20:22] <Fabio> Ubuntu 14.10 64bit
[20:22] <Fabio> I can not log in
[20:23] <Rudolf> uati!?
[20:28] <Fabio> Alguém pode me ajudar?
[20:35] <Rudolf> Fabio: você tentou jogar este erro no google?
[20:36] <Fabio> já
[20:37] <Rudolf> Fabio: e ae?
[20:37] <Rudolf> Fabio: o que vc descobriu?
[20:37] <Fabio> estou tentando rodar o comando: sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get update
[20:37] <Fabio> até agora só
[20:38] <Fabio> não funcionou
[20:38] <Rudolf> Fabio: tu descobriu que um bug ?
[20:39] <Fabio> começou a dar esse erro após a atualização que fiz do linux
[20:39] <Rudolf> Fabio: é, foi o que foi relatado
[20:39] <Fabio> agora não consigo logar mais na conta do usuário cadastrada
[20:39] <Fabio> consigo apenas via putty
[20:42] <Rudolf> Fabio: ctrl+alt+F2 não te dá o terminal?
[20:42] <Rudolf> Fabio: ou mesmo assim não loga?
[20:42] <CyL_> Elfon: O que estou querendo dizer ao amigo, é que a arquitetura do processador não influencia no desempenho da máquina.
[20:43] <Fabio> assim loga tb
[20:43] <Fabio> está virtualizado com o VM
[20:45] <CyL_> Elfon: Não importa que ele tenha só dois GB de memória RAN, executar o Ubuntu 32 bit ou 64 bit vai entregar praticamente o mesmo desempenho a ele. Na verdade, hoje em dia que a maioria das aplicações jpa foram portadas para 64 bits, pode até ser que o 64 bits seja um pouco mais rápido
[20:46] <CyL_> Fabio: Vc sabe usar um pastebin?
[20:46] <Fabio> não, é a primeira vez que instalei o Linux
[20:47] <Rudolf> Fabio: tu viu que é um bug? viu a solução?
[20:48] <Fabio> não achei nada sobre esse erro, queria saber qual a solução neste caso
[20:54] <CyL_> Fabio: como eu ia dizendo, sabe usar um pastebin?
[20:58] <Fabio> sim
[21:00] <CyL_> Fabio: Qual o resultado de 'sudo dmesg'?
[21:05] <Fabio> http://pastebin.com/4CXZdxTQ
[21:06] <astroo-> ola pessoal
[21:14] <CyL_> Ué, quando fui ajudar o cara tinha ido embora
[21:14] <CyL_> :/
[21:15] <astroo-> acontece
[21:25] <CyL_> astroo-: Verdade
[21:25] <astroo-> eu mal posso ajudar...
[21:27] <CyL_> Como assim?
[22:29] <Eduardo_> Oi
[22:33] <astroo-> ola
[22:34] <Eduardo_> Ola meu notebook esta com problema
[22:35] <astroo-> poe sempre a duvida
[22:41] <Eduardo_> Quando eu inicio ele aparece uma tela preta escrito" GNU GRUB version 2.02~ beta2-9ubuntu1 " e embaixo ta " minimal BASH-like line editing is supported. For the first word, TAB lista possible command completions.
[22:53] <Eduardo_> Será que tem como você me responder ainda hoje
[22:56] <strang3quark> Eduardo_: hmm... o que fez no computador antes disso acontecer?
[22:58] <Eduardo_> Ele travou e não voltou ao normal ai eu desliguei ele pelo botão liga/desliga
[23:00] <strang3quark> Eduardo_: tem um liveCD ou LiveDVD do ubuntu disponivel?
[23:00] <Eduardo_> Não
[23:02] <strang3quark> Eduardo_: entao crie um e tente reinstalar o grub
[23:03] <Eduardo_> Não tem outro jeito de conserta-lo
[23:05] <strang3quark> Eduardo_: se você não tiver um poder divino duvido muito que haja outra maneira. Pode sempre esperar por alguma sugestão de outros membros aqui no IRC ou expor o seu problema no forum
[23:06] <Eduardo_> Mas como eu arrimo esse CD
[23:06] <Eduardo_> *arrumo
[23:09] <Eduardo_> Como eu consigo esse CD ???
[23:10] <astroo-> no site of~ficial do ubuntu do topico por exemplo
[23:11] <astroo-> e nao e cd e so 1 .iso
[23:11] <strang3quark> Eduardo_: como é que instalou o ubuntu?
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2015-06-30-#ubuntu-rs
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[15:34] <gorski> Atlantic777: ;);(hah
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2024-05-13T22:11:39.267858
| 2015-06-30T00:00:00 |
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2015-06-30-#ubuntu-locoteams
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[06:02] <Kilos> morning all
[06:57] <MooDoo> morning Kilos
[06:57] <Kilos> hi MooDoo dpm
[07:03] <dpm> hi Kilos
[07:05] * Kilos happy when peeps greet me :D
[07:07] <Kilos> hi dholbach
[07:08] <dholbach> hey Kilos
[07:08] <dholbach> good morning
[07:32] <elacheche> o/
[09:49] <MooDoo> /wc
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2024-05-13T22:11:39.269194
| 2015-06-30T00:00:00 |
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2015-06-30-#ubuntu-desktop
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[07:12] <seb128> good morning desktopers
[07:21] <larsu> anyone know what /usr/lib/icon-naming-utils/icon-name-mapping is from?
[07:21] <larsu> or even what it is supposed to do?
[07:23] <larsu> wow. this is old.
[07:24] <seb128> larsu, dpkg -S tell you "what ... is from"
[07:24] <larsu> seb128: it wasn't installed
[07:24] <larsu> icon-naming-utils
[07:24] <seb128> it is now?
[07:24] <seb128> k
[07:24] <larsu> it is used in the rules file of humanity
[07:24] <seb128> larsu, http://packages.ubuntu.com/ replies to that question
[07:24] <larsu> but has no dep...
[07:25] <seb128> larsu, http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=icon-name-mapping&mode=exactfilename&suite=trusty&arch=any
[07:25] <larsu> ah cool
[07:27] <seb128> larsu, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-art-pkg/humanity/release/view/head:/debian/control
[07:27] <seb128> larsu, it does build-depends on icon-naming-utils
[07:27] <seb128> ?
[07:27] <larsu> seb128: s/control/rules. I should learn to speak debian more fluently :P
[07:27] <seb128> ?
[07:28] <larsu> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-art-pkg/humanity/release/view/head:/debian/rules
[07:28] <seb128> right
[07:28] <seb128> but depends/build-depends are in control
[07:28] <seb128> not rules
[07:28] <larsu> seb128: I always get those two files mixed up
[07:28] <seb128> ah, I see
[07:29] <larsu> seb128: icon-name-mapping is used in rules, but there's no dep on icon-naming-utils
[07:29] <seb128> larsu, there is a buil-depends
[07:29] <seb128> depends are runtime things
[07:29] <seb128> buil-depends are build-time ones
[07:30] <seb128> rules is package build = build-time = build-depends
[07:30] <larsu> oh right, thanks seb128
[07:30] <seb128> yw!
[07:30] <larsu> I was looking in proper depends because I thought dh_install is called then
[07:31] <larsu> but thinking about that, it doesn't make a lot of sense :)
[07:31] * larsu still thinks that call is not necessary
[07:37] <seb128> larsu, we can drop it if not needed
[07:38] <larsu> finding that out right now
[07:39] <pitti> bonjour mes amis !
[07:39] * pitti waves to larsu and seb128
[07:39] <seb128> hey pitti! ça va bien ?
[07:39] <larsu> ah bonjour pitti!
[07:40] <pitti> seb128: oui, je vais bien, merci ! j'aime l'été !
[07:41] <pitti> j'ai vu "Spamalot" à Munich samedi, c'était drôle !
[07:41] <seb128> ah, ça me rappelle des souvenirs :-)
[07:42] <pitti> seb128: oui, nous avons le vu à Londrès, il y a quelques ans
[07:42] <seb128> voilà
[07:42] <pitti> avec tous l'équpipe de platform
[07:42] <seb128> pitti, moi aussi j'aime l'été mais pas quand il est trop chaud, ils ont prévu > 30°C aujourd'hui, c'est trop pour travailler
[07:43] <pitti> seb128: ah, il fait encore bien dans ma chambre
[07:43] <seb128> ici aussi ça va le matin, mais il fait trop chaud l'après-midi
[07:43] * seb128 bets that larsu wishes that he had took french classes instead of spanish ones :p
[07:44] * larsu understands most of that
[07:46] <pitti> seb128: I usually close the windows around 10 when it's getting warm, and put down the shades on the south side, that helps quite a lot
[07:47] <seb128> yeah, trying to do the same ;-)
[07:48] <seb128> pitti, btw do you take summer holidays?
[07:48] <larsu> hm, humanity seems to be the only icon theme that has <context>/<size> directories instead of <size>/<context>
[07:50] <pitti> seb128: oui, 3ème semaine de julliet; nous allons vélo à la riviére "Lech"
[07:50] <seb128> larsu, is that what is creating the issue? or are you trying to make it more standard now?
[07:50] <pitti> seb128: nous encore avons des vacances en mars, alors nous pouvons prendre seulment une semaine cet été
[07:51] <pitti> seb128: "avons eu" (non?)
[07:51] <seb128> pitti, "avons eu" oui
[07:51] <larsu> une semaine n'est pas enough!
[07:51] <seb128> pitti, amusez vous bien quand même pendant cette semaine :-)
[07:51] <pitti> larsu: mais oui, ça suffit pour moi
[07:52] <larsu> seb128: it's not causing the issue, no. It just makes it harder to rearrange stuff
[07:52] <larsu> maybe I should just continue hacking index.theme
[07:52] <larsu> *sigh*
[07:53] <seb128> yeah, we don't have major issues, if another hack is enough to get us going let's do that
[07:54] <larsu> seb128: I'm afraid it pop up again some time ... but then, changing a lot of stuff might also break things
[07:55] <seb128> yeah, let's see next time it bites us
[07:55] <seb128> we might have the convergence/new theme by then
[07:55] <larsu> hah
[07:55] <seb128> we didn't have issues with humanity for years
[07:56] <seb128> until GTK decided to do non backward compatible changes, which hopefully doesn't happen every cycle...
[07:57] <larsu> there's a spec for a reason - gtk is simply following it now
[07:59] <seb128> I object, it's still breaking backward compat but let's agree to disagree on that
[08:00] <larsu> it is, I agree, and it's frustrating
[08:00] <seb128> every backward incompatible change is removing credibility to the platform
[08:01] <seb128> the appdevs hate having their apps start to bug when they didn't change anything
[08:01] <larsu> humanity isn't the only icon theme out there, though
[08:01] <larsu> probably this change was made for some other theme that did things according to spec
[08:03] <Laney> yoooooooo
[08:03] <larsu> yo Laney
[08:03] <larsu> sup?
[08:04] <Laney> it is hot!
[08:04] * Laney has been out watering the plants
[08:04] <Laney> how's it going?
[08:04] <larsu> sitting in a cafe enjoying the sun
[08:04] <seb128> hey Laney
[08:04] <larsu> and not enjoying reading icon theme spec
[08:04] <Laney> hrhr
[08:14] <larsu> what's the reason for having a separate package for humanity icons but not for mono/mobile/suru?
[08:14] <seb128> larsu, license/copyright owners
[08:14] <seb128> humanity is a community theme
[08:15] <seb128> the other ones are Canonical work
[08:15] <larsu> interesting
[08:15] <larsu> thanks
[08:15] <seb128> yw
[08:17] <Sweet5hark1> sweetmorn everyone!
[08:17] <pitti> hey Sweet5hark1, wie gehts?
[08:18] <larsu> hi Sweet5hark1
[08:18] * Sweet5hark1 has #achievementunlocked: finally seemed to have untrained myself from typing apt-get instead of just plain apt ...
[08:18] <Sweet5hark1> pitti, larsu: heya, finally great weather here in the north too ;)
[08:20] <Laney> apt build-dep # nooooo!
[08:20] <seb128> hey Sweet5hark1
[08:21] <Sweet5hark1> Laney: hrhr
[08:55] * Laney eyes udev postinst
[08:56] <Laney> oh, there
[08:56] <Laney> it took ~60s (both in lxc and on bare metal)
[08:57] <Laney> ah, "systemd-udevd.service: Watchdog timeout (limit 1min)!"
[09:03] <darkxst> hey seb128 Laney, any thoughts on what to do with the schemas that moved from g-s-d into gsettings-desktop-schemas? reverting them will break the migration code for GNOME. port u-s-d to use the new ones? Not entirely sure its an exactly 1:1 mapping though
[09:04] <darkxst> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/1468943/comments/1
[09:04] <seb128> not really sorry
[09:04] <larsu> bah. gsettings schemas are API :/
[09:06] <darkxst> larsu, mutter uses them directly for wayland/libinput I think
[09:06] <Laney> darkxst: can we cherry-pick the new stuff into usd/ucc?
[09:07] <larsu> darkxst: my point was that settings keys shouldn't be moved in minor releases
[09:07] <darkxst> larsu, this is 3.14->3.16
[09:07] <darkxst> g-s-d has not been updated yet
[09:08] <larsu> which is a minor release....
[09:08] <darkxst> Laney, probably not directly, the new stuff is accomadation the changes in mutter, that now handles input settings
[09:08] <Laney> then you could move them to a com.ubuntu name and do a migration in usd
[09:08] <Laney> if you want
[09:09] <darkxst> larsu, keys get added every cycles
[09:09] <seb128> having key addes is fine
[09:09] <seb128> having them removed/moved/renamed is not
[09:10] <larsu> ya...
[09:11] <darkxst> they were only added in gsettings
[09:11] <darkxst> and if it wasnt for the migration code, code just revert them back as usual in g-s-d
[11:14] <mdeslaur> Laney: why did you mark the ca-certificates bug as invalid?
[11:16] <Laney> mdeslaur: I filed it twice due to a timeout, that's not the one you were assigned to
[11:16] <Laney> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ca-certificates/+bug/1469803
[11:17] <mdeslaur> oh! I see
[11:17] <mdeslaur> thanks
[11:17] <Laney> np!
[12:03] * seb128 indicates bug #1453549 to Laney
[12:03] <Laney> ya
[12:04] <Laney> are you referring to my comment on the wk2 bug?
[12:04] <seb128> yes
[12:04] <Laney> okey dokey
[12:04] <seb128> yorba needs to update their facebook key/settings
[12:04] <seb128> but they seem to be mia on shotwell
[12:05] <seb128> like that topic got emails on the upstream list and several active bzg bugs
[12:05] <seb128> but nobody is responding
[12:06] <Laney> annoying
[12:06] <seb128> indeed
[12:06] <Laney> if there is a fix in their thing on facebook there's not a lot we can do
[12:07] <seb128> right
[12:07] <Laney> lemme make a note to check on it in a couple of weeks
[12:07] <Laney> can maybe pull some strings to get someone active on it
[12:08] <seb128> I'm checking weekly, but if you have people you can ping please do that ;-)
[12:08] <Laney> not really, probably larsu does more
[12:13] <Laney> right I'm doing a lunchtime sun ride to the cafe then going to find a park/library to work in
[12:13] <Laney> biab!
[12:15] <seb128> Laney, enjoy!
[12:46] <larsu> tedg: was just asked about libappindicator reviews. Who's maintaining that these days?
[12:46] * larsu hopes it's not larsu
[13:12] <mitya57> tedg: I would like to get reviews on two libappindicator MPs by albertsmuktupavels
[13:12] <mitya57> While I have rights to merge/upload it myself, it would be nice to get it reviewed by someone else
[13:19] <mitya57> tedg: corrected: two by albertsmuktupavels and one by /me :)
[13:28] <Laney> ah!
[13:28] * Laney has found a shady place
[13:39] <tedg> mitya57, Let me look
[13:47] <Laney> spiky tree is spiky
[13:47] <Laney> stupid nature
[13:48] <larsu> Laney: this is why we make chairs out of them before sitting on them :P
[13:51] <qengho> Laney: In my co-working group, in the park a few weeks ago, Nature waited until we were complacent and busy and then deployed the swarm of caterpillars. It was super effective. Beware.
[13:51] <Laney> I am using my powers of reasoning to fashion a pillow out of a jumper
[13:51] <Laney> Ah crap. Blowtorch?
[13:52] <qengho> Retreat and showers.
[14:04] <anpok_> Laney: i made a new patch that incorporates most of the gtk+3.16 changes
[14:05] <anpok_> but not the ones related to a gl context..
[14:05] <anpok_> do you know a good way to test that package on a wily system?
[14:05] <Laney> hi anpok_
[14:05] <anpok_> hi
[14:05] <Laney> patch for what?
[14:05] <Laney> gtk 3.14?
[14:05] <anpok_> gtk+3.14
[14:05] <anpok_> yes
[14:06] <Laney> just install it and downgrade your gtk, taking out any apps that require the new one
[14:06] <larsu> "just"
[14:06] <Laney> mir hackers are hardcore folk
[14:08] <Laney> or fix mir to work in VMs :) :) :)
[14:08] * Laney runs
[14:08] <seb128> Laney, it does work in vm
[14:08] * seb128 has unity8 session working on ubuntu personal with virt-manager
[14:08] <Laney> then try it in a vm?
[14:08] <seb128> http://unity.ubuntu.com/mir/setup_kvm_for_mir.html
[14:09] <seb128> trying what?
[14:09] <seb128> I lack context
[14:09] <Laney> I don't know why you would ask about running it on wily otherwise
[14:09] <Laney> mir backend update for 3.14
[14:09] <seb128> did we mix versions there?
[14:10] <seb128> anpok_, did you mean trunk to 3.16?
[14:10] <Laney> that is already done
[14:10] <Laney> it i s for the overlay ppa
[14:10] <seb128> why not for distro?
[14:11] <Laney> are they SRUing the new mir?
[14:11] <seb128> ok, I'm confused
[14:11] <seb128> if we speak trunk to 3.16 it's not SRU but wily?
[14:11] <Laney> API break in overlay ppa
[14:11] <Laney> -> need to update gtk
[14:11] <seb128> ah ok
[14:12] <Laney> same for wily but that is done already and for a different gtk series
[14:12] <seb128> that's the context I was missing ;-)
[14:12] <seb128> k
[14:12] <Laney> anpok_: why not use a VM?
[14:12] <seb128> I'm still interested to see a gtk-mir backend update in wily
[14:12] <seb128> Laney, vm for what?
[14:12] <Laney> https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-004/+packages
[14:12] <Laney> your dreams have come true
[14:12] <Laney> for testing the overlay ppa update...
[14:12] <seb128> Laney, vivid-overlay is the base for our current devices and the pocket pc work
[14:13] <seb128> so I guess we need to update gtk with mir there
[14:13] <seb128> or the gtk-mir backend
[14:13] <Laney> I know...
[14:13] <Laney> I'm saying why not use a VM to check it works
[14:13] <Laney> instead of downgrading a wily system
[14:13] <seb128> ah, I see
[14:14] <seb128> Laney, thanks for the gtk update in that ppa ;-)
[14:14] <Laney> attente did it really
[14:14] <Laney> but thanks for the thanks :P
[14:14] <seb128> :-)
[14:14] * Laney screams at deleting double spaces all the time
[14:15] <seb128> is that issue specific to your xps? could be an hardware issue?
[14:15] <seb128> I didn't see others complain about that
[14:15] <Laney> it's bios
[14:15] <seb128> but maybe not many people got the newest revision
[14:15] <anpok_> Laney: sure .. vm it will be..
[14:15] <Laney> check the thread i linked to in that mail
[14:16] <Laney> http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/laptop/f/3518/t/19626873?pi239031352=4
[14:16] * Laney has emailed superm1, waiting to hear back again
[14:42] <Laney> I prepared my meeting notes a whole hour early by mistake!
[14:55] <seb128> Laney, it's the sun getting to you!
[14:57] <Laney> hehe
[15:15] <seb128> Trevinho, hey, you typoed a "t" at the start of the modline on https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/unity-settings-daemon/automount-monitor-lockscreen/+merge/259514 , can you fix?
[15:15] <Trevinho> ouch, sure
[15:15] <seb128> thanks
[15:16] <Trevinho> seb128: done, overwritten though
[15:16] <seb128> Trevinho, that's ok, thanks
[15:30] <larsu> *cough* *cough*
[15:30] <seb128> oh it's meeting time
[15:31] <Laney> ohhhh
[15:31] <seb128> attente, desrt(?), dgadomski, FJKong, happyaron, Laney, larsu, qengho, Sweet5hark, tkamppeter, hey
[15:31] <seb128> #startmeeting
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[15:32] <dgadomski> o/
[15:33] <seb128> ok, let's get started
[15:33] <seb128> #topic attente
[15:33] <seb128> attente, hey
[15:33] <attente> hi
[15:33] <qengho> YAY
[15:34] <attente> revisions to apparmor kernel patch for dconf again, waiting for review
[15:34] <attente> merge the gtk-mir wip branch into upstream master and backport those patches to the ubuntu gtk package
[15:34] <attente> debugging a weird issue where the backend is sending mouse release events immediately after mouse press events, only affects our package
[15:34] <attente> (eof)
[15:35] <seb128> thanks for updating our gtk versions/backporting the fixes from trunk!
[15:36] <attente> np! but this mouse event bug is pretty bad...
[15:36] <seb128> yeah, I guess it's next to debug?
[15:36] <attente> yeah. it's basically making it impossible to click anything other than the menus
[15:37] <seb128> right
[15:37] <seb128> attente, thanks
[15:37] <seb128> I guess no desrt (I think he said he was off monday/tuesday)
[15:37] <seb128> #topic dgadomski
[15:37] <seb128> dgadomski, hey
[15:37] <dgadomski> hey
[15:37] <dgadomski> There were no desktop issues reported to me lately, so this week I was busy with non-desktop stuff.
[15:38] <dgadomski> That's it, thanks.
[15:38] <seb128> dgadomski, thanks
[15:38] <seb128> #topic FJKong
[15:38] <Laney> we fixed all the bugs \m/
[15:38] <seb128> FJKong, hey
[15:38] <FJKong> hi
[15:38] <FJKong> 1 continue working on fixing lacking status bar image
[15:38] <FJKong> 2 add input tip to sogou Shuang Pin Im
[15:38] <FJKong> 3 get feek back from community: sometimes input window shows abnormal
[15:38] <FJKong> 4 one day holiday
[15:38] <FJKong> eof
[15:39] <seb128> FJKong, thanks
[15:39] <seb128> #topic happyaron
[15:39] <seb128> happyaron, hey
[15:40] <seb128> no happyaron?
[15:40] <seb128> #topic Laney
[15:40] <seb128> Laney, hey
[15:41] <Laney> hi
[15:41] <Laney> • Worked more on e-d-s and gstreamer transitions, these are both (still?) blocked on Canonical people helping me out :)
[15:41] <Laney> ∘ https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtorganizer5-eds/+bug/1469208
[15:41] <Laney> ∘ email with jhodapp about updating gst-bad, says he will get it scheduled
[15:41] <Laney> • Start looking at webkitgtk2 transition for main
[15:41] <Laney> ∘ Ported shotwell
[15:41] <Laney> ∘ Ported apturl (simple)
[15:41] <Laney> ∘ Look at evolution (argh)
[15:41] <Laney> ∘ Some other apps have WIP ports upstream
[15:41] <Laney> • Update glib2.0 (in progress, gio/tests/appmonitor fails, desrtttttt)
[15:41] <Laney> • Check/upload gtk3.16 mir backend refresh
[15:41] <Laney> • Work with seb128 to get poppler/wps/proj migrated & do some final updates
[15:41] <Laney> • Fix chromium autopkgtest & sikuli to get this migrated and unblock glib -> gtk which were waiting on it
[15:41] <Laney> ☄
[15:42] <Laney> actually I take it all back
[15:42] <Laney> 4e7d22e268a4e06beb1c09585a48288c31004da5 is the first bad commit
[15:42] <Laney> commit 4e7d22e268a4e06beb1c09585a48288c31004da5
[15:42] <Laney> Author: Matthias Clasen <[email protected]>
[15:43] <qengho> Thanks laney!
[15:43] <seb128> Laney, thanks
[15:43] <qengho> That sikuli thing is bothering me. There has to be a way to detect the require jar files at package time, instead of keeping them in a script.
[15:43] <seb128> unsure what the commits are about
[15:43] <qengho> It will break again.
[15:44] <Laney> the one that broke glib's test
[15:44] <seb128> oh, the failed appmonitor test
[15:44] <seb128> k
[15:44] <seb128> :-)
[15:44] <seb128> Laney, thanks
[15:44] <seb128> #topic larsu
[15:44] <larsu> ey that's me
[15:44] <seb128> larsu, hey
[15:44] <larsu> had a very short week due to two days off
[15:45] <larsu> worked on those 1000 little theming and icon bugs that people pinged me with in the last couple of weeks
[15:45] <larsu> expect big MRs this week (maybe I should separate them a bit?)
[15:45] <seb128> yeah, regular landing of small bits seems better than batching a big stack
[15:46] <larsu> lots of very small bits though
[15:46] <larsu> but I agree
[15:46] <larsu> will do that
[15:46] <larsu> otherwise the usual: Bugs.
[15:46] <seb128> larsu, thanks
[15:46] <seb128> #topic qengho
[15:46] <seb128> qengho, hey
[15:47] <qengho> * Commercial PES/OEM support.
[15:47] <qengho> * Getting chromium-browser widevine plugin supported if installed manually or Google Chrome installed.
[15:47] <qengho> * Reviewed NaCl patches for contributor. Might get that working, and packaged before 15.10!
[15:47] <qengho> * Un-blacklisting all GPU in chromium, but setting the preference to default to Off. Might need to get apport pattern if errors.u.c spikes again.
[15:47] <qengho> * chromium-browser release tomorrow, with ^fixes.
[15:47] <qengho> EOF
[15:48] <seb128> qengho, at the meeting a week ago you said "I'll ask you to sponsor today." about the new version, what happened to that?
[15:49] <qengho> Laney fixed the test problem, and commercial folks wanted widevine support included.
[15:50] <seb128> he did fixed it some days after since you didn't give news about your upload and didn't respond to ping
[15:50] <seb128> oh, well
[15:50] <seb128> qengho, thanks
[15:50] <seb128> #topic seb128
[15:50] <seb128> ok, my turn ;-)
[15:50] <seb128> • snappy fun still ongoing
[15:50] <seb128> ∘ debugging unity8/mir not starting, after 2 days trying to figure out what's going between lightdm/usc/unity8 (and trying to get help from people knowing those component better) figured out that usc is waiting on vt8 and that lightdm doesn't do the switch, when doing it manually unity8 starts!
[15:50] <seb128> ∘ noticed then that unity8 regressed in wily and that the desktop session shows the phone greeter now, tracked down the issue to a recent landing and reported bug/pinged unity team
[15:50] <seb128> ∘ updated livecd-rootfs to write a /e/d/locales config on desktop-next
[15:50] <seb128> • reviewed some u-s-s and u-s-d merge requests
[15:50] <seb128> • some NEW reviews & archive admin commands for Laney
[15:50] <seb128> mostly still trying to get snappy personal working, but getting there
[15:50] <seb128> #topic Sweet5hark1
[15:50] <Laney> my favourite script runner
[15:50] <seb128> Sweet5hark1, hey
[15:51] <Sweet5hark1> - bumped prereleases ppa from 5.0~rc1 to ~rc2
[15:51] <Sweet5hark1> - merged from Debian (ongoing)
[15:51] <Sweet5hark1> - discussed/provided support for LibreOfficeKit on Ubuntu touch
[15:51] <Sweet5hark1> - some upstream refactoring/test adding (finally blogged on that: https://skyfromme.wordpress.com/2015/06/26/i-would-kill-500-lines-and-i-would-kill-500-more/ )
[15:51] <Sweet5hark1> - bumped LibreOffice fresh ppa to 4.4.4 (rc2 and rc3, which is final)
[15:51] <Sweet5hark1> - some LTS patch backporting
[15:51] <Sweet5hark1> - some GSOC mentoring
[15:51] <Sweet5hark1> - usual foundation and ESC tasks: some conf orga, major release prep, grants and budgeting
[15:51] <Sweet5hark1> - most importantly: made the LibreOffice build system default to colored output on an interactive shell *cough*
[15:51] <Sweet5hark1> EOF
[15:51] <seb128> Sweet5hark1, thanks
[15:51] <seb128> #topic tkamppeter
[15:51] <seb128> tkamppeter, hey
[15:51] <tkamppeter> - Made ippusbxd (IPP-over-USB daemon) getting started and keep running in systemd environment.
[15:51] <tkamppeter> - Worked on finding out how to reliably stop ippusbxd when the printer is turned off or disconnected.
[15:51] <tkamppeter> - Added functionality to try always to use the same port for ippusbxd and change only if the desired port is already taken by something else.
[15:51] <tkamppeter> - Bugs.
[15:51] <seb128> tkamppeter, thanks
[15:51] <seb128> #topic robert_ancell
[15:51] <seb128> - Updated version tracker to current wily package versions.
[15:51] <seb128> - Made a GNOME version page (http://people.canonical.com/~platform/desktop/gnome.html). This makes it easier to see a similar / simpler set of packages to update (the other lists have too many packages).
[15:51] <seb128> - Open bugs for all GNOME packages we have yet to update to 3.16 (particularly so we can note why we haven't updated them in the case of difficult transitions)
[15:51] <seb128> - Updated various wily packages to latest stable versions.
[15:52] <pitti> tkamppeter: stop stuff when printer is turned off> udev rules?
[15:52] <seb128> #topic other topics
[15:52] <seb128> did I forget anyone? do we have other topics?
[15:52] <Laney> help welcome on wk2 ;-)
[15:53] <Laney> not sure we will get there this cycle
[15:53] <seb128> is debian doing that transition as well?
[15:53] <seb128> do we have any insensitive to go ahead with that now?
[15:53] <Laney> not actively
[15:53] <Laney> the old version doesn't get updates any more
[15:53] <seb128> I would rather postpone the work if it's not really needed
[15:54] <Laney> not even the webkit level of security support
[15:54] <Laney> staying on an ancient version forever doesn't seem great
[15:54] <seb128> yeah, I'm not saying forever, but we could let others do the heavy lifting by postponing by one cycle
[15:55] <seb128> well, if we have the spare resources to do it and people want to work on it I'm not against it either
[15:55] <Laney> ya I was doing stuff which nobody started on
[15:56] <seb128> k
[15:56] <seb128> if anybody feels like helping on that please do ;-)
[15:56] <Laney> and I think I will not do evolution, that looks hadrd
[15:56] <seb128> anything else?
[15:56] <Laney> -> probably not make 15.10
[15:56] <seb128> it means transition in a lts cycle though :-/
[15:57] <Laney> ya
[15:57] <seb128> k, I guess we can wrap the meeting
[15:57] <seb128> thanks everyone
[15:58] <Laney> thanks!
[15:58] <seb128> #endmeeting
[15:58] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Jun 30 15:58:11 2015 UTC.
[15:58] <meetingology> Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2015/ubuntu-desktop.2015-06-30-15.31.moin.txt
[15:58] <attente> thanks
[15:58] * Laney fixed the test
[16:03] <seb128> does anyone know how to upload a refresh from lp:~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntu-touch.wily to the archive?
[16:03] <seb128> I'm having issues building that and need to go for some erands before shop closed
[16:03] <seb128> if somebody can do that for me while I'm away I might be able to retry a desktop-next build when I'm back
[16:03] <seb128> otherwise no worry, it's going to be for tomorrow
[16:03] * seb128 bbiab
[16:04] <Laney> seb128: what's the issue?
[16:05] <seb128> Laney, I think me not knowing how those stuff works anymore :p
[16:06] <Laney> get ubuntu-touch-meta, run ./update, build pkg & upload
[16:06] <Laney> this wifi tethering is destroying my battery
[16:06] <seb128> ah ok, I tried to get the package from the archive and apply the diff I commited
[16:06] * Laney should have brought a cable
[16:06] * ogra_ pokes Laney
[16:07] <seb128> ok, well maybe I've a look later but need to go now
[16:07] <seb128> maybe ogra_ can sponsor it for me, that's the drop from cloud-init :p
[16:07] <Laney> can look anyway, let me file this testfix first
[16:07] <ogra_> "read the changelog and verify the changes very carefully before dput"
[16:07] <seb128> Laney, thanks
[16:07] <seb128> bbiab
[16:07] <Laney> ogra_: HAHA you and your old ways
[16:07] <ogra_> lol
[16:07] <Laney> if no bug report -> upload was fine
[16:08] <ogra_> yeah, phone kind of weaned me from cowboy style :P
[16:36] <hallyn> unity on my wily system sudenly gives me a blank screen. known problem?
[16:56] <seb128> back
[16:56] <seb128> hallyn, no
[16:56] <seb128> hallyn, anything interesting in the logs? does a guest session works?
[16:57] <seb128> Laney, thanks for the upload!
[16:57] <seb128> (crazy country where most shops close at 6pm and where you can get vegetable&co only until 7pm)
[16:59] <hallyn> seb128: which logs?
[17:00] <seb128> hallyn, .xsession-errors ~/.cache/upstart/gnome-session*|unity*
[17:03] <ogra_> seb128, and you cant even phone the shop from your car anymore so they stay open longer for you now ...
[17:13] <seb128> ogra_, :-)
[17:16] <hallyn> seb128: http://people.canonical.com/~serge/gnome-session-Unity.log.1.gz , though it seems old. also http://paste.ubuntu.com/11800186/
[17:24] <seb128> hallyn, 1.gz has wrong permission and is a rotated log, can you delete ~/.xsession-errors and .cache/upstart and try to log in and see what logs you get?
[18:02] <hallyn> seb128: http://people.canonical.com/~serge/unitylogs.tgz
[18:18] <seb128> hallyn, looks like unity plugin is not in your compiz config
[18:19] <seb128> hallyn, try to "dconf reset -f /org/compiz"
[18:24] * hallyn tries
[18:27] <hallyn> nope, same thing :(
[18:35] <hallyn> seb128: i should point out that whil i was using unity for the last two weeks until this morning, 'unity' seemed to have gotten uninstalled in my latest apt-get update
[18:35] <hallyn> i had to apt-get install it. is there something else i should perhaps be installing?
[18:35] <hallyn> i don't see a 'unity-panel' command
[18:35] <hallyn> maybei should just take the chance to install unity8
[18:36] <hallyn> or will that mess up
[18:36] <hallyn> my x+lightdm s that i can no longer run other window managers if/when unity has a problem?
[18:39] <EphraimMB> Can you please show me a screenshot of what unity 8 looks like right now?
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[02:46] <circ-user-9VsJ1> NICK koken
[08:48] <ochosi> sorry for being afk for a bit, i'll return t-day or so
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[18:50] <phillip> toddy: hi, hättest du Zeit kurz https://translations.launchpad.net/photos-scope https://translations.launchpad.net/today-scope und https://translations.launchpad.net/news-scope reviewen?
[18:51] <toddy> phillip: die Zeit kann ich mir nehmen. ich schaue mal. :)
[18:54] <toddy> phillip: da ist nichts: https://translations.launchpad.net/today-scope
[18:54] <phillip> ahh ja
[18:54] <phillip> der war zu viel :)
[18:54] <toddy> und die anderen sind durch. die waren recht einfach zu reviewn. :)
[18:55] <phillip> ja danke
[18:55] <toddy> wobei ich nicht so wirklich weiß, was dieses Douban ist :D
[18:56] <phillip> toddy: was Chinesisches denke ich
[18:56] <phillip> ok muss los
[18:56] <phillip> bis denn
[18:56] <toddy> ok, ciao
[18:57] <toddy> ah, ein social netzwerk: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douban
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[08:16] <lordievader> Goede morgen.
[20:38] <JasoNMas73R> hallo?
[20:38] <JasoNMas73R> kan imeand mij helpen?
[20:39] <OerHeks> Hallo JasoNMas73R
[20:39] <JasoNMas73R> Bent U van de helpdesk?
[20:39] <OerHeks> Ja, ik ben ook een vrijwilliger :-)
[20:39] <JasoNMas73R> Ik heb een raar probleempje...
[20:40] <JasoNMas73R> Maar kan ik ook hulp krijgen over engelse versie?
[20:40] <JasoNMas73R> Ik he de taal op engels
[20:40] <OerHeks> Ja hoor, language maakt niets uit.
[20:40] <JasoNMas73R> Okee
[20:41] <JasoNMas73R> Ik zit de laatst tijd meer op Ubuntu i.v.m. problemen via Windows
[20:42] <JasoNMas73R> Maar, als ik naar de Software Center ga, zegt-ie dat er een fout is die gerepareerd moet worden
[20:42] <JasoNMas73R> Ik druk op repair
[20:42] <JasoNMas73R> Toen kreeg ik dit:
[20:43] <JasoNMas73R> An unhandlable error has occured
[20:44] <OerHeks> op welke ubuntu, 14.04 ?
[20:44] <JasoNMas73R> Ja en er stond ook dit
[20:44] <JasoNMas73R> ik typ het even over
[20:46] <OerHeks> als het veel regels zijn, knip en plak op paste.ubuntu.com
[20:46] <JasoNMas73R> There seems to be a programming error in aptdaemon, the software that allows you to install/delete software and to preform other package manangement related tasks.
[20:46] <JasoNMas73R> Bij details staat ere dit
[20:46] <JasoNMas73R> Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/aptdaemon/worker.py", line 306, in _process_transaction self._apply_changes(trans) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/aptdaemon/pkcompat.py", line 3155, in _apply_changes install_range) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/aptdaemon/worker.py", line 1132, in _apply_changes with self._frozen_status(): File "/usr/lib/python3.4/contextli
[20:47] <JasoNMas73R> File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/aptdaemon/worker.py", line 1157, in _frozen_status shutil.copy(self._status_orig, frozen_dir) File "/usr/lib/python3.4/shutil.py", line 228, in copy copyfile(src, dst, follow_symlinks=follow_symlinks) File "/usr/lib/python3.4/shutil.py", line 109, in copyfile copyfileobj(fsrc, fdst) File "/usr/lib/python3.4/shutil.py", line 69, in copyfileobj fdst.write(buf) OSError:
[20:48] <JasoNMas73R> Terwij, 1. ik ben een techneut, en dit is best raar, en 2. ik heb nog genoeg ruimte op de partitie!
[20:49] <lordievader> JasoNMas73R: Op deze manier is de traceback lastig te lezen, zou je het via http://paste.ubuntu.com nog een keer willen delen?
[20:49] <JasoNMas73R> Wacht heel eve, meneer.
[20:50] <JasoNMas73R> HIer: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11801329/
[20:51] <JasoNMas73R> En?
[20:52] <lordievader> JasoNMas73R: Zou je de output van 'df -h' willen pastebinnen?
[20:52] <JasoNMas73R> Wat is dat?
[20:53] <JasoNMas73R> Ik moet nog oefenen met GNU stuff.
[20:54] <JasoNMas73R> Jeez, IRC gaat echt langzaam!
[20:54] <lordievader> JasoNMas73R: Open een terminal, tik 'df -h', ram op enter.
[20:54] <lordievader> IRC, is een redelijk indirect medium.
[20:54] <JasoNMas73R> Oh, sorry. *schaamt zich erg*
[20:56] <JasoNMas73R> Vreemd
[20:56] <lordievader> Niks om je voor te schamen.
[20:56] <JasoNMas73R> Vreemd
[20:56] <JasoNMas73R> Normaal zie ik terminal altijd
[20:56] <JasoNMas73R> Nou zie ik 'm niet
[20:57] <JasoNMas73R> Andere apps ook niet
[20:57] <lordievader> ?
[20:57] <JasoNMas73R> Alleen maar bestanden!
[20:57] <JasoNMas73R> Dit is echt geen grap!
[20:58] <JasoNMas73R> Wat is hier aan de hand!!!
[20:59] <JasoNMas73R> He, wat is dat rode verkeers bord in mijn hoek?
[20:59] <lordievader> Ik heb geen flauw idee waar je het over hebt.
[21:00] <JasoNMas73R> Iets met een applicatie fout
[21:01] <lordievader> Dat maakt het niet duidelijker.
[21:01] <JasoNMas73R> Kun je hier geen screenshots doen?
[21:01] <OerHeks> imgur.com
[21:02] <OerHeks> en prtscreen is standaard aan
[21:02] <JasoNMas73R> Leuk, maar ik zit hier met een probleem!
[21:02] <JasoNMas73R> Oh
[21:03] <lordievader> Wij proberen je te helpen ;)
[21:06] <JasoNMas73R> http://i.imgur.com/VvY7vYI.png
[21:06] <JasoNMas73R> http://i.imgur.com/Gb5eimy.png
[21:07] <JasoNMas73R> Wat is de schade? :D
[21:07] <lordievader> Ah /boot zit vol, hoe groot is /boot?
[21:07] <JasoNMas73R> Eens zien?
[21:07] <JasoNMas73R> ...
[21:07] <lordievader> JasoNMas73R: df -h ;)
[21:07] <JasoNMas73R> Ahum, eh terminal is een soort van ehm weg, weet je.
[21:08] <lordievader> JasoNMas73R: ctrl + alt + t
[21:09] <SCHAAP137> een Windows-gebruiker zou het een soort DOS-schermpje noemen
[21:09] <JasoNMas73R> Weet ik, heb het al een keer gebruikt
[21:09] <JasoNMas73R> yes, thnx
[21:10] <JasoNMas73R> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11801419/
[21:11] <lordievader> Ah, het gaat meer om /, die zit gewoon vol.
[21:12] <lordievader> Misschien wil je die ook wat groter maken, 10g is wat krapjes.
[21:12] <JasoNMas73R> Eens zien
[21:12] <JasoNMas73R> Hoe groot minimaal?
[21:16] <JasoNMas73R> Shit, het kan niet groter
[21:16] <lordievader> Err, dat ligt aan je gebruik. Ik begin meestal met 20g maar het word al snel 50g voor / (ik heb een aparte /home, ook gebruik ik LVM waardoor het voor mij niet veel uitmaakt of ik er ruimte bij moet prikken of niet).
[21:16] <JasoNMas73R> Shit, het kan niet groter
[21:17] <JasoNMas73R> Wat nu?? Heluup
[21:17] <lordievader> JasoNMas73R: Je schijf opruimen?
[21:17] <JasoNMas73R> De partitietable?
[21:19] <lordievader> Nee, je filesystem.
[21:19] <lordievader> Pakketten die je niet gebruikt bijvoorbeeld.
[21:21] <JasoNMas73R> Hee, wacht. Ik heb een demo van X plane 10, 5GB.
[21:21] <JasoNMas73R> Moet ik die anders verwijderen?
[21:22] <lordievader> Het zou een goed begin zijn ;)
[21:22] <JasoNMas73R> Is dan het probleempje opgelost?
[21:22] <lordievader> Voor even in iedergeval wel.
[21:25] <JasoNMas73R> Wat moet ik daarna doen?
[21:25] <JasoNMas73R> Herstarten?
[21:26] <kebabfish> iemand bekend met dell laptop en i8kmon? Het progje lijkt na enige tijd namelijk uit te schakelen, waardoor de laptop weer warm wordt
[21:26] <JasoNMas73R> lordievader. wat moet ik daarna doen?
[21:26] <JasoNMas73R> kebabfish zoek het op via elgoog.im
[21:28] <kebabfish> joh, zo ben ik aan het programma en de settings gekomen. In het begin werkt het goed, maar na een tijdje hoor ik de fan niet en wordt de cpu toch weer warm (minuutje of 15)
[21:29] <JasoNMas73R> nieuwe fan kopen
[21:29] <JasoNMas73R> ouwe computerfan
[21:29] <JasoNMas73R> hahahah
[21:36] <SCHAAP137> kebabfish: lijkt mij meer een DELL-probleem dan een Ubuntu-probleem
[21:37] <SCHAAP137> kebabfish, is het niet gewoon een hardwareprobleem van je laptop dan?
[21:37] <SCHAAP137> dat die CPU fan ermee nokt?
[21:38] <kebabfish> hij draait wel, maar niet op 100% wanneer i8kfan zegt dat ie dat zou moeten doen
[21:38] <kebabfish> hij lijkt omlaag te schalen wanneer dat kan ,maar niet meer omhoog te schalen wanneer nodig
[21:38] <kebabfish> dat deze laptops heethoofden zijn is zeker bekend en een probleem
[21:39] <SCHAAP137> hmm, dat is niet koel idd
[21:39] <SCHAAP137> (letterlijk)
[21:39] <kebabfish> idd :P
[21:39] <kebabfish> maar handmatig de fans bedienen is onhandig, maar koelt dan wel degelijk goed
[21:40] <SCHAAP137> heb je de laptop al lang? al een keer schoongemaakt van binnen?
[21:40] <SCHAAP137> nieuwe koelpasta erop etc?
[21:41] <SCHAAP137> grote chunks bruingrijs plakkerig stof eruit?
[21:41] <kebabfish> wel schoongemaakt, nieuwe koelpasta binnenkort maar eens doen
[21:41] <kebabfish> haha, ik hou de boel goed schoon hiero :P
[21:41] <SCHAAP137> heheh, kben een roker, je had de binnenkant van mn laptop eens moeten zien tijdje terug :P
[21:41] <SCHAAP137> echt absurd wat daar allemaal ophoopt
[21:41] <kebabfish> voormalig fanatiek gamer, alles blinkt en zit onder de 50 graden :P
[21:42] <kebabfish> maar goed, van het weekend eens wat koelpasta vervangen
[21:42] <SCHAAP137> hehe, laatst nieuwe PC gehaald, ben nog niet boven de 55 uitgekomen, 30-32 in idle
[21:42] <kebabfish> maar niet overgeklokt denk ik?
[21:42] <kebabfish> is sowieso netjes, gezien de temperaturen buiten nu
[21:43] <SCHAAP137> klein beetje, draai 'm nu op 4.4 GHz
[21:43] <kebabfish> nice
[21:43] <SCHAAP137> ipv de normale 4 GHz
[21:43] <SCHAAP137> i7-4790K
[21:43] <SCHAAP137> echt een beest
[21:43] <kebabfish> ah, die zijn koeler dan de amdtjes die ik hier vaak heb
[21:43] <SCHAAP137> op 4 GHz issie 26-28 gr
[21:44] <kebabfish> deze laptop zijn standaard niet goed ingesteld in de bios (bios niet handmatig aanpasbaar), cpu en gpu lekker dicht bij elkaar en geen goede airflow
[21:44] <SCHAAP137> mja, DELL he, meer voor zakelijk gebruik
[21:44] <kebabfish> na veel gedoe alles ingesteld met i8kmon, alles draait rond de 40 graadjes en na 15 min ineens weer richting de 60
[21:44] <kebabfish> idd
[21:45] <SCHAAP137> hmm, BIOS is ook up to date?
[21:45] <SCHAAP137> dat zou je nog kunnen checken
[21:45] <kebabfish> jup
[21:45] <kebabfish> vanmiddag toevallig nog gedaan :P
[21:45] <SCHAAP137> hmm lastig, dan zou ik het ff niet weten
[21:45] <SCHAAP137> op werk wel veel DELL machines ook, maar draaien allemaal windhoos
[21:46] <SCHAAP137> die dingen zijn praktisch gemaakt voor dat OS
[21:46] <kebabfish> helaas wel ja
[21:46] <kebabfish> de cpu gaat ook telkens van conservative naar ondemand, ik heb niks te zeggen hiero xD
[21:47] <SCHAAP137> hmm lijp, volgens mij had ik dat ook een hele tijd terug
[21:48] <SCHAAP137> welke versie van Ubuntu draai je?
[21:48] <kebabfish> ik zou er niet graag win7 op zetten, dan liever een koeltafeltje erbij
[21:48] <kebabfish> 14.04
[21:49] <SCHAAP137> win7 is stroperig en traag, dan zou ik liever voor 8.1 gaan met Start8 erbij
[21:49] <kebabfish> ochje
[21:49] <kebabfish> een windows machine in huis :(
[21:50] <SCHAAP137> liever niet idd, of je moet echt afhankelijk zijn van die software
[21:50] <kebabfish> dan liever handmatig, en een koeltafeltje
[21:51] <JanC> Dell maakt ook gamer laptops hé :)
[21:52] <SCHAAP137> ahja, Alienware is van DELL toch?
[21:52] <JanC> idd.
[21:52] <kebabfish> daar heb ik een desktopje voor. Deze is meer voor werk en studie bedoelt
[21:53] <SCHAAP137> true, een gamer laptop is een beetje vreemde luxe, voor de mobiele gamer
[21:53] <SCHAAP137> lekker in de StarBucks of Coffee Company zitten, laptop openklappen, en een potje counterstriken
[21:53] <SCHAAP137> en mensen die je dan raar aankijken
[21:53] <SCHAAP137> die zelf achter een MacBook zitten, te typen in Office for Mac
[21:53] <JanC> liefst met power cord? :)
[21:54] <OerHeks> whatsapp-facebook-zombies :-D
[21:54] <SCHAAP137> haha, of met een Oculus Rift :D
[21:54] <SCHAAP137> ja powercord is wel onmisbaar op zo'n moment
[21:55] <JanC> gamer laptops niet echt bekend voor batterijduur...
[21:59] <kebabfish> ik ga morgen wel verder met deze braadpan
[21:59] <kebabfish> wellicht gewoon de airco erop zetten :P
[21:59] <kebabfish> aaajetoo
[22:06] <SCHAAP137> allrighty, kga ook wat slaap proberen te vatten
[22:07] <SCHAAP137> begonnen aan een nieuw experiment: het _niet_ meer roken van cannabis, na 15 jaar dagelijks gebruik
[22:07] <SCHAAP137> benieuwd hoe dat gaat verlopen
[22:07] <SCHAAP137> trusteh!
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2015-06-30-#ubuntu-co
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[02:55] <Ubuntero|93794> buenas noches, quiero instalar ubuntu lo cual es bastante sencillo, pero me interesa sobre todo saber si hay grupos de programacion con los que pueda aprender
[22:07] <Ubuntero|43262> Hola
[22:07] <Ubuntero|43262> buenas tardes
[22:09] <Ubuntero|43262> Amigos alguien en linea
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:39.336786
| 2015-06-30T00:00:00 |
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2015-06-30-#ubuntu-us-mi
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[13:47] <rick_h_> bwuhahahaha, waterproof camera arrival. You'll all get a lot more pics of the fish catch now!
[13:54] <jrwren> waterproof but not underwater? do you dislike phone cameras?
[13:55] <rick_h_> I don't trust my phone in a kayak out in the open
[13:55] <rick_h_> this thing has a floating strap and can be submerged floating while I fish it out of the lake if I drop it
[13:55] <jrwren> ah, cool!
[13:56] <rick_h_> paying full price for cell phones makes you a little bit more cautious about where you stick it :)
[13:57] <devinheitmueller> I don’t know if you’re interested but Lennart Poettering did a systemd talk last night here at NYLUG. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDHTcB63NXs&feature=youtu.be
[13:58] <devinheitmueller> Might be worth Scott taking a look prior to MUG’s talk on July 14th to see if he wants to steal any materials. :-)
[14:00] <jrwren> full price? You mean like $599 instead of free or $99 ?
[14:00] <jrwren> who does that? :)
[14:09] <cmaloney> Good morning pt. 2
[14:10] <cmaloney> devinheitmueller: Thanks for the link
[14:10] <devinheitmueller> np. Hope it helps.
[14:12] <jrwren> 2h40m. anyone got a summary?
[14:13] <cmaloney> "Hi, I'm Lennart and I wrote systemd. Here's why it's awesome"
[14:13] <devinheitmueller> I think the video was a livestream so it started before the actual talk. Hence you can likely fast forward through the parts where people are just standing around drinking beer and finding their seats.
[14:14] <devinheitmueller> I’ve personally had some unpleasant exchanges with Lennart in the past, and I have to say though that I was actually pretty impressed.
[14:16] <devinheitmueller> Having some background behind the motivation behind some of the design decisions, and why they just didn’t extend Upstart was pretty useful. I came out of it feeling less like there’s a consipiracy for systemd to take over the world.
[14:22] <cmaloney> Yeah, same with pulseaudio
[14:22] <cmaloney> there's some good thinking in there.
[14:23] <jrwren> all that is in the systemd FAQ. I read it, and was no longer anti-systemd
[14:24] <jrwren> err, not faq, but this: http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/the-biggest-myths.html
[14:25] <devinheitmueller> I think for many it was just a huge shift from the traditional sysvinit thinking (and there is lots of added complexity with any parallel init system). Hence I can appreciate people trying systemd, running into to some case where it didn’t behave the way they would have expected, and then been bewildered with the process of debugging what went wrong.
[14:25] <jrwren> i never understood what "traditional sysvinit thinking" was. There was always init pid 1 and it did whatever it did. That changed a lot over the years.
[14:26] <devinheitmueller> Plus many were/are irked by systemd’s importing of functionality that was previously done by standalone processes (udev, networking, etc). That said, I came out of the talk appreciating that there was some pretty good rationale for some of these decision.
[14:26] <jrwren> Maybe because I admined BSD for years along with linux, I was thinking about things differently? I don't know.
[14:27] <devinheitmueller> I think many are still of the mindset where they think about runlevels and linear startup (i.e. init scripts running in order). Plus it was relatively easy to hack an existing init script to add debugging when things didn’t do what you expected.
[14:27] <jrwren> could be.
[14:27] <jrwren> it hasn't been that way for many years.
[14:28] <devinheitmueller> Who hasn’t jammed “set -x” into the top of an init script so they could see what it was doing at boot? That sort of thing can be harder with systemd.
[14:28] <jrwren> upstart has been in ubuntu for 4+yrs, right?
[14:28] <jrwren> and upstart was in at least 1 debian release.
[14:28] <jrwren> and iirc upstart was in a rhel release and a few fedora releases.
[14:28] <jrwren> it has been harder with upstart just the same :)
[14:29] <devinheitmueller> I think upstart better preserved some of the older conventions though by being able to run things like the existing “service” commands and reliance on shell scripts for the actual business logic.
[14:29] <devinheitmueller> Some of this is certainly a comfort issue. People get set in their ways and learn a subset of commands they use regularly, and then along comes this thing that is totally different and requires to you learn a whole new set of commands to manage.
[14:30] <jrwren> you are wrong on teh second point.
[14:30] <devinheitmueller> Am I?
[14:30] <jrwren> on teh first point, yes, making service _ start/stop work is great.
[14:31] <jrwren> devinheitmueller: yes, there is fallback to /etc/init.d/ scripts, but it did not rely on them.
[14:31] <jrwren> in fact, it was often very confusing to see if /etc/init.d script was being used v. /etc/init upstat job because both would exist.
[14:32] <jrwren> you had to know that the /etc/init job would be used and /etc/init.d script ignored.
[14:32] <devinheitmueller> Entirely possible. I’ll be the first to admit I haven’t done any Linux server admin in several years, and the use cases for my Ubuntu desktop have “just worked”.
[14:32] <jrwren> yes, its nice.
[14:32] <jrwren> and systemd is nice too.
[14:32] <jrwren> so if you have used upstart, systemd is not much of a change.
[14:33] <jrwren> even the shell scripts thing is being worked around in the complex cases, so services still use shell scripts to start.
[14:39] <jrwren> e.g. a systemd service with ExecStart=/etc/init.d/yourservice systemd-start
[14:39] <jrwren> looks to be the pattern from debian/ubuntu
[14:40] <jrwren> and that way you can have service packages which work with 3+ init systems easily.
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:39.358314
| 2015-06-30T00:00:00 |
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"devinheitmueller",
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2015-06-30-#ubuntu-pt
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[02:46] <astroo-> ciao pessoal
[21:06] <astroo-> ola pessoal
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:39.359507
| 2015-06-30T00:00:00 |
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"authors": [
"astroo-"
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"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/06/30/%23ubuntu-pt.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-pt"
}
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2015-06-30-#ubuntu-us-tn
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[17:50] <netritious> good afternoon
[20:39] <netritious> anyone here running ubuntu? if so, desktop or server or both?
[20:42] <Unit193> 'Ubuntu', or an Ubuntu flavor? I have an Ubuntu server, and Xubuntu.
[21:20] <netritious> hey Unit193 yeah that would count in my book :)
[21:21] <netritious> I'm just curious
[21:26] <Unit193> I also have a Debian Xfce VM, and Debian testing server.
[21:31] <netritious> nice. I have a bunch of older test vm's I need to ditch for something fresh.
[22:51] <netritious> TIL code can smell? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_smell
[23:05] <netritious> yay quittin' time cya guys
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:39.360957
| 2015-06-30T00:00:00 |
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"netritious"
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2015-06-30-#ubuntu-ie
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[18:55] <Optimus> Hi!
[19:04] <tdr112> hey Optimus
[19:04] <Optimus> Hello!
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:39.361536
| 2015-06-30T00:00:00 |
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"authors": [
"Optimus",
"tdr112"
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"channel": "#ubuntu-ie"
}
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2015-06-16-#ubuntu-ir
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[01:20] <amir_> سلام
[07:15] <rha_> سلام
[07:15] <rha_> یک سوال داشتم
[07:16] <rha_> مدنبال سایت یا منبعی هستم که درباره مدیریت حافظه و حدیریت فرٖآیندها در اوبونتو توضیح داده باشه
[22:12] <ayat> salam
[22:13] <ayat> من مشکل دارم توی نصب کردن نرم افزار ها توی لینوکس
[22:13] <ayat> اموزش هایی که توی سایت ها بود رو خوندم
[22:13] <ayat> ولی نتونستم نصب کنم
[22:14] <ayat> کسی می تونه بهم بگه چطور میشه توی لینوکس نرم افزار نصب کرد؟
[22:15] <ayat> کسی هست؟
[22:16] <saeed> سلام
[22:16] <saeed> شما اوبونتو نصب کردید؟
[22:17] <ayat> بله
[22:17] <saeed> خب اوبونتو برای راحتی کاربرهاش یه برنامه داره به این اسم
[22:17] <saeed> ubuntu software center
[22:18] <saeed> و تو منوی یونیتی هم هست
[22:18] <ayat> چطور میشه ازش استفاده کرد؟
[22:18] <saeed> اون برنامه رو باز کنید، و از طریق اون نرمافزارها رو سرچ و نصب کنید
[22:18] <saeed> فقط لازمه که به اینترنت وصل باشید
[22:18] <ayat> چطوری نصب کنم
[22:19] <ayat> می تونی هر مرحله رو بهم بگی
[22:19] <saeed> برنامه رو سرچ میکنید، روی گزینهٔ اینستال کلیک کنید، خود برنامه پکیج رو دانلود و نصب میکنه
[22:19] <saeed> مرحلهٔ خاصی نداره، فقط یه کلیک
[22:21] <ayat> من الان رفتم داخل ubuntu software center
[22:22] <ayat> و بالای صفحه اش یه جایی داشت برای سرچ کردن
[22:22] <ayat> نرم افزارم رو سرچ کردم
[22:22] <ayat> بعدش باید چکار کنم
[22:23] <saeed> اگه میخوای نصب بشه، رو گزینهٔ اینستال کلیک کن، صبر کن دانلود و اکسترکت کردن پکیج نرمافزار تموم شه
[22:24] <saeed> بعد از این که این تموم شد، نرمافزار قابل استفاده است
[22:24] <ayat> چطوری می تونم نرم افزار رو بیارم
[22:26] <saeed> رو منوی علامت اوبونتو کلیک کن، اسم نرمافزار رو تو قسمت سرچ تایپ کن، و بعد نرمافزار رو باز کن
[22:27] <ayat> انگار یه جایی خوندم که لینوکس خودش یه دانلود منیجر داره؟
[22:27] <ayat> شما اسمش رو میدونید؟
[22:28] <saeed> یه سری دانلود منیجر واسهاش نوشته شده
[22:28] <saeed> یه سری از اونها کامندلاین هستن
[22:28] <saeed> یه سری هم گرافیکی
[22:29] <ayat> قدرتمندترینشون از نظر سرعت چیه؟
[22:29] <saeed> به عنوان مثال دانلود منیجر زیر رو سرچ کنید (تو سافتور سنتر اوبونتو)
[22:29] <saeed> uGet
[22:29] <saeed> و نصبش کنید
[22:30] <saeed> والا در مورد این که کدوم قدرتمنده اطلاع خاصی ندارم، چون از دانلود منیجر به اون صورت استفاده نمیکنم
[22:31] <saeed> تو فروم اوبونتو شاید در این مورد مطالبی نوشته شده باشه که چه دانلود منیجری بهتره و ...
[22:32] <ayat> یه مشکل بیش اومد
[22:32] <ayat> من نسخه لینوکس اوبونتو رو دارم
[22:32] <ayat> وقتی uget رو سرچ کردم
[22:33] <ayat> نسخه ۱۳ اوبونتو
[22:33] <ayat> یو گت رو سرچ کردم
[22:34] <ayat> بعد اسمش با تصویرش میاد
[22:34] <ayat> رو ش یه گزینه داره یه اسم more info
[22:35] <ayat> اینو که میزنم
[22:35] <ayat> یه صفحه باز میشه که توضیحاتش توش نوشته شده
[22:36] <ayat> بعد یه گزینه هست به اسم use this source
[22:36] <ayat> اونو که میزنم میاد توی هیستوری
[22:36] <ayat> این درسته؟
[22:37] <saeed> فکر نکنم این مورد مشکل باشه
[22:38] <saeed> با استفاده از همون گزینهٔ اینستال به راحتی میشه نرمافزار نصب کرد
[22:39] <saeed> در مورد اون گزینهای که گفتی اطلاعی ندارم و نمیدونم کارش چیه
[22:40] <ayat> با اینترنت کم سرعت هم میشه ازش دانلود کرد؟
[22:40] <saeed> آره، فقط زمان بیشتری میبره
[22:40] <ayat> چرا خطا میده
[22:41] <saeed> نمیدونم
[22:41] <saeed> دوباره تلاش کن
[22:48] <ayat> یه سوال دیگه
[22:49] <ayat> می خوام ببینم یکی از قسمت های نرم افزار برای چیه
[22:49] <ayat> توی سیستم ستینگ بیا
[22:50] <ayat> بعد software & updates
[22:50] <ayat> توی همون \نجره که باز میشه
[22:51] <saeed> خب
[22:51] <ayat> روی به روی Download from
[22:52] <ayat> اونجا برای چیه
[22:52] <ayat> باید کدوم گزینه انتخاب بشه؟
[22:53] <ayat> نوع سرور ابدیت رو مشخص میکنه؟
[22:53] <saeed> فرقی نمیکنه
[22:53] <saeed> این گزینه واسه اینه که یه سرور (میرور) رو انتخاب میکنی و میگی نرمافزارها رو از اونجا دانلود کنه
[22:59] <ayat> شما میدونید که از طریق لینوکس چطور میشه یه سایت رو روی نت قرار داد؟
[23:00] <saeed> یه چیزایی میدونم
[23:01] <saeed> لازمه که یه وبسرور نصب شه و یه سری تنظیمات
[23:01] <saeed> مثلن میشه وبسرور آپاچی رو نصب کنی و از اون استفاده کنی
[23:01] <saeed> البته فکر نکنم تو چنل آیآرسی بشه توضیح داد
[23:07] <saeed> تو اینترنت در این مورد سرچ کنید، راهنماهای آزاد زیادی نوشته شده که چگونه یک وبسایت رو روی وب سرور راهاندازی کرد
[23:07] <saeed> به انگلیسی که خیلی زیاده
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:39.374161
| 2015-06-16T00:00:00 |
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"amir_",
"ayat",
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"saeed"
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2015-06-16-#ubuntu-se
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[08:44] <SebastianThorn> någon som kör outlook? http://malektips.com/word-2010-stop-select-entire-word.html för Outlook? hittar inte hur man gör.
[09:16] <Hund> SebastianThorn, Outlook? Inte ens dom som gillar Windows använder Outlook. :P
[09:17] <molgrum> näe fyfan
[09:19] <ePax> 0_o
[09:20] <Spookan> Microsoft har väl till och med lagt ner Outlook?
[09:26] <SebastianThorn> Hund: what? funkar bra
[09:27] <SebastianThorn> vi kör ju allt sånt i AD, så det är ju bara att starta så gåt sallt igång
[09:31] <molgrum> någon som är hemma på demoner? om man ändrar i ett demon-skript (vivid) räcker det med att köra sudo systemctl daemon-reload && sudo service <program> restart?
[09:32] <Coffe> tror du klarar dig med restart
[09:32] <molgrum> den klagar då
[09:32] <molgrum> har tyvärr inte det exakta meddelandet i huvudet
[09:35] <molgrum> Warning: oscam.service changed on disk. Run 'systemctl daemon-reload' to reload units.
[09:35] <molgrum> så ;)
[09:36] <molgrum> jo enligt loggfilen så verkar det som den har startat om
[09:38] <molgrum> fast jag vet inte om det är med det nya skriptet
[10:18] <andol> molgrum: Pröva att lägga in en uppenbar sidoeffekt i nya skriptet, så ser du ifall den versionen körs eller ej? :) Fast jo, ovan kombination borde funka
[10:19] <andol> molgrum: Sen då möjligtvis att det är snäppet mer konskevkent att även köra systemctl restart <program>, men det är ju mest en detalj.
[10:21] <molgrum> jag får två instanser när jag kör min demon, har provat verbose med start-stop-daemon, är det för stdout/stderr eller är det för syslog?
[10:21] <molgrum> måste debugga skiten
[10:21] <molgrum> fyra processer, men jag antar att de två extra är slavar
[10:22] <molgrum> får absolut nada i stdout/stderr
[10:23] <molgrum> oj vänta, jag glömde att kopiera över skriptet :)
[10:24] <molgrum> nej ingenting
[10:25] <molgrum> verbose verkade bara lägga till i syslog att "time has changed"
[10:51] <molgrum> afk ett tag...
[18:57] <hplc> finns det nåt liknande 2to3 för shellscript?
[18:58] <hplc> alltså nåt hjälpprogram som hjälper mig "översätta" ett 4-5 år gammalt shellscript till fungerande modern version?
[21:59] <hplc> nån som vet var man köper bra smart media kort?, eller liknande kreditkorts-format minneskort?
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:39.383259
| 2015-06-16T00:00:00 |
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"molgrum"
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2015-06-16-#ubuntu-ru
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[03:46] <kiriru> /msg nickserv register konnichiwa [email protected]
[03:47] <kiriru> хм...
[09:23] <ubuntu089> Гайс
[09:23] <ubuntu089> есть тут кто?
[09:24] <Semiarty> Перед тем, как задать вопрос - прочтите http://goo.gl/MQjd9'
[09:26] <ubuntu089> проблема с GRUB
[09:27] <svetlana> какая
[09:27] <ubuntu089> Ставил убунту
[09:27] <ubuntu089> параллельно в виндой
[09:27] <ubuntu089> установка прошла нормально
[09:28] <svetlana> какую ОС ставил первой?
[09:28] <ubuntu089> Но видимо что-то не так сделал и нету загрузчика GRUB
[09:28] <ubuntu089> винда стояла сперва
[09:28] <svetlana> правильно
[09:28] <svetlana> попробуй убунту поставить ещё раз и не пропустить опцию про grub
[09:28] <ubuntu089> а не было вроде такой опции это раз
[09:28] <ubuntu089> и два
[09:28] <ubuntu089> комп больше не видит эту флешку как загрузочную
[09:29] <ubuntu089> только из под винды читает
[09:32] <svetlana> http://askubuntu.com/a/232963 что-то такого порядка
[09:39] <ubuntu089> Как вариант
[09:39] <ubuntu089> А почему перестал флешку видеть?
[09:44] <svetlana> тебе виднее
[09:44] <svetlana> может, он на неё попробовал поставить grub после того, как ты ему неправильно указал партиции
[09:44] <svetlana> или флешка гнилая
[09:47] <ubuntu089> Да устанавливал то с этой флешки
[09:47] <ubuntu089> вряд ли в ней трабла
[10:01] <andrex> ubuntu527: в уставновщике где разделы размечаеш в низу есть опция куда ставить grub, флешка могла опредилиться как /dev/sda а не что то другое это тоже надо проверить перед установкой
[10:01] <andrex> !grub
[10:01] <ubuntuhelp> GRand Unified Bootloader — загрузчик операционной системы от проекта GNU. Подробная информация: http://goo.gl/vDq8V илиhttp://goo.gl/NWGM Boot-Repair: http://goo.gl/Jf9jfy
[11:13] <qwexyz123> привет, подскажите пожалуйста можно ли запустить игру без gnome, т.е. в отдельном терминале ? если запустить из терминал получается ошибка...
[11:45] <andrex> мона...
[11:52] <UNIm95> ЛОООЛ http://vk.com/wall-33241_402347
[11:53] <UNIm95> Прочитайте каммент от Валентины
[12:14] <yurau1504> привет. новость слышали? Ubuntu developer portal moved to DjangoCMS from WordPress
[12:14] <yurau1504> я думал что они друпал юзают
[12:21] <andrex> наивный
[17:23] <UNIm95> У кого есть акк на хабре с возможностью комментировать.
[18:51] <UNIm95> уже не актуально.
[20:15] <Sergey_IT> экзамены кончились и все в загуле?
[20:27] <andrex> ик?
[20:33] <Sergey_IT> 3-я стадия?
[20:53] <andrex> да не просто время у мну уже ппц
[20:53] <andrex> спать поздно короче
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2015-06-16-#launchpad-dev
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[02:01] <blr> huh, `ag` can find zope templates with --plone
[02:07] <blr> wgrant: thank you for the review (imagine that took some time!)
[02:07] <wgrant> blr: Yup, mostly tiny things.
[02:10] <blr> wgrant: do we want the target ref to default to heads/master?
[02:10] <blr> context +register-merge ref picker
[02:11] <wgrant> blr: It should default to the target repo's HEAD ref, which is GitRepository.default_branch as of yesterday.
[02:12] <blr> ah cool, handy
[02:13] <wgrant> I'm not completely sure how it should all work at this stage. I think we eventually want a two-stage picker that selects a repo and then a ref within it.
[02:13] <blr> yep, would make sense to be within the same control
[02:13] <wgrant> We can't have the target ref input prepopulated with the default_branch, because the user could change the selected repo and invalidate the branch.
[02:14] <wgrant> So I think we for now have to go with a picker that asks for a vocab on the selected repo, but for the normal case accept that an empty ref input means a server-side fallback to default_branch.
[02:14] <blr> would be easy enough to reset it if the content of the target repository input changes
[02:14] <wgrant> Right, but reset to what? :)
[02:14] <wgrant> It'd have to be empty.
[02:14] <blr> well, it would have to be empty yes
[02:15] <blr> unless we could make an api call
[02:15] <wgrant> I think blank == HEAD makes sense in general.
[02:15] <wgrant> Like, if you clone a repo, you get HEAD.
[02:15] <wgrant> HEAD is a sensible thing for a null branch name to mean.
[02:15] <blr> ok, perhaps we just need to add a note in that case that HEAD is assumed unless otherwise specified
[02:15] <wgrant> I don't think it's worth improving on that until we can have the unified picker.
[02:15] <wgrant> Yep
[02:32] <mwhudson> wgrant, blr: just curious, have you thought at all about getting go get launchpad.net/foo to work if the foo project uses git?
[02:35] <blr> mwhudson: I'm afraid I'm not that familiar with golang, but that certainly sounds like a useful feature given our increasing use of the language...
[02:36] <mwhudson> yeah, there is support in the go tool for urls like that, but it assumes bzr
[02:36] <mwhudson> would be nice to fix it somehow
[02:36] <mwhudson> i'm not sure about all the intricacies of how go get works
[02:39] <blr> welp, apparently there's a carshare service in melbourne called GoGet. Thanks google.
[02:40] <mwhudson> i think one approach would be to put <meta> tags on the launchpad.net/project page
[02:40] <blr> presumably the go source is on github somewhere
[02:40] <mwhudson> (and delete the special casing for launchpad in the go tool)
[02:41] <mwhudson> blr: docs here https://golang.org/cmd/go/#hdr-Remote_import_paths
[02:41] <mwhudson> source is here https://github.com/golang/go/blob/master/src/cmd/go/discovery.go
[02:42] <mwhudson> (and get.go, vcs.go)
[02:42] <blr> mwhudson: thanks, will have a look this evening
[02:42] <blr> have been meaning to spend some time with golang at any rate.
[02:42] <mwhudson> blr: would it be useful to file a bug about this?
[02:42] <blr> mwhudson: absolutely yes, please tag it 'git'
[02:42] <mwhudson> if you do the lp bits, i'll do the go bits :-)
[02:45] <wgrant> Yep, that definitely makes sense.
[02:45] <wgrant> Inasmuch as go get itself does :)
[02:45] <mwhudson> https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/1465467
[02:45] <mup> Bug #1465467: put <meta name="go-import"> tags on project, series pages <git> <Launchpad itself:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1465467>
[02:45] <mwhudson> well yeah
[02:46] <mwhudson> i guess testing this against launchpad.dev will actually be easier than testing it against launchpad.net, unless you hack your own build tool
[02:46] <mwhudson> er
[02:46] <mwhudson> *go tool
[02:49] <blr> thanks mwhudson, at a glance it seems easy enough
[02:49] <mwhudson> blr: yeah, seems like it should be fairly easy
[02:50] <mwhudson> blr: go 1.5 will be released in august, would be nice to be able to get the relevant change into that
[02:51] <mwhudson> not completely sure i want to set up a launchpad dev environment just for this, but i guess i could...
[02:51] <blr> mwhudson: could you mock it locally somehow and point me at your golang fork on gh perhaps?
[02:54] <mwhudson> blr: sorry, i don't really understand
[02:54] <blr> mwhudson: I'm not certain you're going to be able to avoid setting up LP heh, although it is reasonably painless these days
[02:55] <mwhudson> blr: depends on whether i can con one of you guys into doing it first
[03:00] <blr> mwhudson: I can have a poke at it at codecraft this evening
[03:00] <mwhudson> blr: awesome
[03:00] <mwhudson> i've put it on my todo list
[03:00] <mwhudson> but not at the top :-)
[06:54] <maozhou_> Can someone help me? how to init series?
[06:55] <cjwatson> maozhou_: Um, what are you trying to do exactly?
[06:56] <cjwatson> Project series don't require initialisation, and initialising a distribution series on launchpad.net is something we'd expect to have had prior notice of.
[07:02] <maozhou_> i set up launchpad server on local, then i add a series.but when i init it ,it dosen't work
[07:04] <cjwatson> maozhou_: This is not even slightly easy to get going, but https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewReleaseCycleProcess may provide some clues.
[07:09] <maozhou> cjwatson: i do it by this way.(https://dev.launchpad.net/LEP/DerivativeDistributions),but when i init it ,it dosen't work.
[07:11] <cjwatson> You'll probably need to run 'cronscripts/process-job-source.py IInitializeDistroSeriesJobSource'
[07:11] <cjwatson> But on a local instance you're mostly on your own, or at least will have to dig through log files yourself and generally provide more useful problem reports than "it doesn't work" :-)
[07:12] <cjwatson> I suspect derived distributions will be pretty complex to get going on a local instance, as you'd have had to import some other distribution to derive from.
[07:13] <cjwatson> You could in principle import Ubuntu using scripts/gina.py or something, but there'd be a lot of details for you to work out for yourself.
[07:24] <maozhou_> cjwatson: my workmate said that he once init the "DerivativeDistributions" succeed by run some script, but he can't remember which script he run. may be i need try to run 'cronscripts/process-job-source.py IInitializeDistroSeriesJobSource'
[07:27] <maozhou_> cjwatson: thanks for your help, Let me try by your way.
[07:27] <wgrant> maozhou_: Oh, are you working on the kylinos.com.cn Launchpad instance that was spamming people a few months back?
[07:30] <cjwatson> ... and have you deleted sampledata yet? :-)
[07:33] <maozhou_> wgrant: yes, may be. I am sorry about that. but how to stop it spamming people?
[07:36] <wgrant> maozhou_: As far as we could tell, you took a normal Launchpad development instance, including all the development sample data, enabled outbound email, and started using it. The sample data includes some real email addresses, and is generally a terrible basis for a production deployment.
[07:36] <wgrant> I don't know what your goal for your Launchpad instance is, but starting with sampledata is almost certainly the wrong way to go.
[07:38] <cjwatson> Also may well have security holes of various kinds since the sample data includes people with e-mail addresses you don't control in privileged teams.
[07:41] <cjwatson> The development sample data is meant to make it easier to experiment with changes to Launchpad itself locally, by giving you a bit of test data so that important pages will render something at least a little bit useful. But it should never be included in production deployments.
[07:42] <cjwatson> I don't know if there's a sensible way to excise it from an already-running instance; it would probably involve non-trivial database surgery, and might well be easier to start again from scratch.
[07:54] <maozhou_> ok, i will tell my workmate to check it . may be we need to modification datebase.
[07:59] <maozhou> if i alter datebase about mailaddress,is it effectivity?
[08:04] <cjwatson> You really ought to delete the predefined non-team accounts, and there will be various other junk in e.g. your list of registered projects, your bug/branch/specification tables, etc. that you probably want to get rid of.
[08:07] <wgrant> A fresh bootstrapped database would be a much better idea.
[08:14] <maozhou_> there are many data already in datebase ,if do a fresh bootstrapped database, all the data will be losed , may be we can't do that.
[08:26] <maozhou_> we will check it to stop it spamming people.
[09:14] <maozhou_> cjwatson:when i run 'cronscripts/process-job-source.py IInitializeDistroSeriesJobSource' , it's error . the error log is “Running <InitializeDistroSeriesJob for distribution: kylin, distroseries: dota, parent[overlay?/pockets/components]: utopic[False/Release/main], architectures: (), archindep_archtag: None, packagesets: None, rebuild: True> (ID 2) in status Waiting”
[09:14] <maozhou_> Job resulted in OOPS: OOPS-ea5bde41e13487cb6437263a6b26b44d
[09:14] <maozhou_> 1 InitializeDistroSeriesJob jobs did not complete.
[09:15] <maozhou_> what is “OOPS: OOPS-ea5bde41e13487cb6437263a6b26b44d” ？
[09:15] <cjwatson> You'll need to find the actual text of that OOPS.
[09:15] <cjwatson> It should have been dumped out somewhere, but exactly where depends on your configuration.
[09:16] <cjwatson> The error_reports lazr config section should have an error_dir key, which might be a place to start.
[09:17] <maozhou_> ok，i know .thank you.
[14:33] <cjwatson> wgrant: Would you mind having another quick look over https://code.launchpad.net/~cjwatson/launchpad/git-repository-ui-edit-target/+merge/261232 ? I know you already gave an Approve vote, but I made some fairly extensive changes to cope with the changes related to target_default.
[20:55] <blr> morning
[21:38] <blr> hmm would be nice to have the option to delete a comment within x minutes of creation for people that haven't had enough coffee.
[21:56] <mwhudson> i think there is a bug with a very small number about that :-)
[21:57] <blr> mwhudson: made a start on your request last night, have the import meta rendering on Product+index, will try to sort out the bzr meta and ProductSeries tag before eow
[21:57] <mwhudson> blr: i just noticed, cool :-)
[21:58] <mwhudson> i'll get set up to be able to test it
[21:58] <mwhudson> is launchpad still running on precise?
[21:59] <blr> mwhudson: yep
[22:00] <mwhudson> okidoke
[23:09] <blr> mwhudson: have another branch (which allows a project to have an associated 'default' vcs, amoungst other things) which needs to land before this branch. Not far away however
[23:09] <blr> will govern whether a bzr or git meta tag is rendered
[23:20] <mwhudson> blr: ah yes, that seems relevant :-)
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2015-06-16-#ubuntu-on-air
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[14:11] <swaveck> any show today?
[14:15] <balloons> swaveck, yes indeed
[14:15] <swaveck> cool
[14:15] <balloons> swaveck, 45 mins from now, things should be live
[14:45] <swaveck> google hangout window is missing on the page
[14:50] <ahoneybun> hello all
[14:59] <mhall119> popey: I'll be 2 minutes, sorry for delaying it
[15:01] <BowlerFredrick> hello ..
[15:02] <popey> heya
[15:02] <popey> no worries mhall119
[15:02] <BowlerFredrick> Where's the video, then ?
[15:03] <popey> BowlerFredrick: just about to start
[15:03] <BowlerFredrick> cant see a video - do i need to refresh ?
[15:03] <mhall119> BowlerFredrick: just starting now
[15:04] <BowlerFredrick> got it.
[15:04] <BowlerFredrick> i can see alan pope.
[15:04] <nik90> And you're live :)
[15:05] <mhall119> ask questions here, start them with QUESTION at the beginning
[15:05] <nik90> QUESTION: Where is your cat? Camera shy are they?
[15:06] <BowlerFredrick> QUESTION: Can you explain WHY the new bq5 is a "convergence phone", exactly ?
[15:06] <mj_> QUESTION: when will the Ubuntu phone finally sort out the bluetooth issues? I still cannot connect it to my car system, and this is a serious safety issue :(
[15:06] <popey> is mhall119's audio screwy for anyone else, or just me?
[15:06] <goatsLover> hi
[15:07] <goatsLover> i'm hearing a bad echo
[15:07] <balloons> QUESTION: How many selfies did you take at SELF?
[15:07] <popey> me too
[15:07] <goatsLover> mike, i can't hear you
[15:07] <ahoneybun> bad echo as well
[15:07] <nik90> popey: mhall119's mic seems broken...
[15:07] <goatsLover> wave
[15:07] <BowlerFredrick_> mhall119 's sound is really choppy.
[15:07] <mj_> @ Michael Hall - you sound like a villain in a movie!
[15:07] <theBest> QUESTION: Are you stressed now due to the anouncement of the bq converged phone in developing the desktop interface of Unity8-Ubuntu?
[15:08] <BowlerFredrick_> still choppy.
[15:08] * ahoneybun waves at everyone
[15:08] <goatsLover> crisp and clear
[15:08] <ahoneybun> sounds better
[15:08] <BowlerFredrick_> that's better.
[15:09] <goatsLover> nope
[15:09] <theBest> Congrats to everyone involved in the OTA 4 update. My phone gets better and better each month.
[15:09] <goatsLover> maybe
[15:09] <The_Fish> QUESTION: Is there a way to communicate stock app or OS improvement ideas visually without learning QML? If so what should I use and who would I send them to afterwards?
[15:10] <mj_> QUESTION: After today's phone updates, can you tell us what's going to be included in the next update pack?
[15:10] <nik90> mhall119: much better
[15:10] <swaveck> QUESTION: BQ EDGE when? Microsoft is just about to launch converged phone..
[15:11] <sturmflut2> QUESTION: (if it wasn't asked already!) It seems some features planned for OTA-4 got postponed at the very last moment, like the new keyboard layouts and WiFi Tethering. Do you know why?
[15:11] <balloons> hey sturmflut2 :-)
[15:11] <sturmflut2> swaveck: The Convergence device will not be released before October
[15:11] <sturmflut2> balloons: o/
[15:11] <goatsLover> QUESTION: i find it hard to type long messanges on Ubuntu Phone, can i connect a keyboard?
[15:12] <ahoneybun> QUESTION: any plans for a stock IRC client?
[15:12] <nik90> hmm still echo..it is better for a while before it starts echoing
[15:13] <mj_> @mhall 119 - still echoey
[15:13] <balloons> sturmflut2, to your question, I know the migration to vivid was the most critical and biggest piece to happen. It broke some things that required attention
[15:13] <mardy> mhall119: I think the problem is on the internet connection, maybe try lowering the quality
[15:13] <BowlerFredrick_> troo dat.
[15:13] <sturmflut2> ahoneybun: Probably not in the near future, the App Lifecycle currently makes it impossible. You can't keep the connection alive if the app gets moved into the background.
[15:14] <ahoneybun> true
[15:14] <mhall119> sturmflut2: messaging frameworks :)
[15:14] <sturmflut2> mhall119: Sure, but who writes the IRC connector :P
[15:15] <The_Fish> QUESTION: Even though I am not an Ubuntu Insider, I would very much like to pretend that I am. Can we all just agree that this is the case and then someone send me a MX4. Many thanks.
[15:15] <goatsLover> wily o/
[15:15] <mardy> mhall119: much better now!!
[15:16] <BowlerFredrick_> Wow - mhall119 looks like he's in braille.
[15:16] <mhall119> BowlerFredrick_: I'm in 1999 internet mode :)
[15:17] <BowlerFredrick_> :)
[15:17] <ahoneybun> mhall119: also here: http://usefoss.com/index.php/2015/06/13/self-day-1-ubuntu/
[15:17] <mhall119> ^^ that
[15:18] <theBest> https://www.youtube.com/user/southeastlinuxfest
[15:18] <theBest> ?
[15:19] <ahoneybun> also I now have a arduino thanks to keith mhall119
[15:20] <goatsLover> QUESTION: is ubuntu phone ready for my mom?
[15:20] <ahoneybun> QUESTION: how can a person in a LoCo take over leadership? I know a poll needs to be held but if it is real dead perhaps it would just be held over?
[15:21] <ahoneybun> goatsLover: if she needs to call and text and have access to a good browser, she should be covered
[15:21] <ahoneybun> a lot of great apps
[15:21] <sturmflut2> balloons: Ah, thanks for the info. I just re-read the Landing team e-mails and actually those features were never really promised for OTA-4, it's more like "they're there now and merge requests have been filed", but I never took the time to go and check if things had actually been merged in the end. Shame on me.
[15:21] <goatsLover> she listen to music and makes phone calls
[15:23] <ahoneybun> the stock music player is amazing goatsLover and 7digital is pretty nice
[15:23] <goatsLover> i don't she'll find turbo folk on 7digital hehe
[15:24] <ahoneybun> oh
[15:25] <balloons> sturmflut2, :-) With vivid behind us, I expect a much bigger changelog for the next OTA
[15:26] <goatsLover> QUESTION: is turbo pascal supported on Ubuntu Phone?
[15:26] <balloons> sturmflut2, yea timing gets confusing because I run the devel-proposed builds. So things land in wily and on those images soon after being completed. It can take some time and refinement for them to actually get into the OTA stable update
[15:27] <swaveck> QUESTION: the amount of ported devices is rather low, any plans to improve porting guide/make it more easier for less experienced developers?
[15:27] <Sid__> QUESTION: Any insights if Canonical is in conversation with the fairphone company considering the new fairphonw 2? Ubuntu on the fairphone just seems like a perfect mariage :D
[15:28] <ahoneybun> The_Fish: talk to danielmcguire on #ubuntu-app-devel as he is working with the Help HTML5 app in design choices
[15:28] <ahoneybun> DS-McGuire ^
[15:29] <BowlerFredrick_> QUESTION: What year does the panel predict that you'll be able to plug your phone into your TV ot tele-ubuntu-Box ?
[15:29] <Sid__> QUESTION: I'm using dualboot Ubuntu on Android. Does it use phased updates as well or am I on the wrong channel (ubuntu-rtm/stable/ubuntu)?
[15:30] <mj_> QUESTION: when will the Ubuntu phone finally sort out the bluetooth issues? I still cannot connect it to my car system, and this is a serious safety issue :(
[15:31] <ahoneybun> mine was 50mbs lol
[15:33] <sturmflut2> goatsLover: I suppose this is a troll question, but you could actually develop for an Ubuntu phone in Turbo Pascal
[15:34] <BowlerFredrick_> QUESTION: JonoBacon said he'd "love to do a reunion Q&A" http://redd.it/336wu9 So how about it guys ?
[15:34] <The_Fish> QUESTION: Would the bottom edge on the phone be best used as a menu system for the app (File, edit, view etc. Menus that could be switched between in a similar fashion to the items in the indicators menus at the top edge)?
[15:37] <Sid__> QUESTION: I'm thinking of using devel-proposed. Michael could you tell us what your experiance is like?
[15:38] <euclid> QUESTION : usb 3.0 seagate external hdd does not spin off (on ubuntu 14.04) is it a bug ?
[15:39] <justCARAKAS> QUESTION any updates on VOIP ?
[15:41] <goatsLover> sturmflut2: nope. it's legit
[15:41] <sturmflut2> goatsLover: Then the answer is yes, you could do it.
[15:41] <goatsLover> sturmflut2: the question was bad... i mean pascal
[15:42] <goatsLover> awesome
[15:43] <sturmflut2> goatsLover: Free Pascal should be able to create an exectuable for the ARM architecture, the only thing missing is probably some library which allows you to access the Mir display server, otherwise you can't do graphics
[15:44] <BowlerFredrick_> Which lovco team is it ?
[15:44] <ahoneybun> florida
[15:45] <goatsLover> sturmflut2: if they have c bindings for SDL then i'm happy
[15:45] <goatsLover> c makes me sick :(
[15:46] <sturmflut2> goatsLover: I don't know if they have them. SDL2 works at least, it can talk to Mir, Neverball/Neverputt use it.
[15:46] <goatsLover> nice!
[15:46] <goatsLover> thanks sturmflut2
[15:47] <BowlerFredrick_> my video went jurkey there for a second.
[15:49] <sturmflut2> goatsLover: But pure Pascal without objects isn't that much different from C?
[15:49] <ahoneybun> I think Feb-Mar
[15:50] <goatsLover> that's why i like object pascal
[15:52] <sturmflut2> goatsLover: Well, Object Pascal isn't that much different from C++ ;)
[15:53] <goatsLover> there's much more than this.. i don't like c compilers... just read the source code and compare
[15:54] <BowlerFredrick_> Once we take over the world - popey lol !
[15:54] <goatsLover> fpc is much nicer... you can browser the source code in a couple of days
[15:55] <sturmflut2> goatsLover: Which C compiler are you comparing to FPC?
[15:55] <goatsLover> all of them
[15:55] <ahoneybun> I have had my car radio working fine
[15:56] <goatsLover> i have to go now. thanks sturmflut2 ! bye
[15:56] <sturmflut2> goatsLover: That's rather unfair then. TCC for example is much smaller than FPC.
[15:56] <sturmflut2> goatsLover: o/
[15:56] <goatsLover> :D o/
[15:58] <euclid> Thank you guys !!!
[15:59] <ahoneybun> QUESTION: how would you party if your app hit 1000 downloads?
[16:00] <mhall119> ahoneybun: throw a huge party party with all the money you've made :)
[16:00] * ahoneybun has made no money ...
[16:00] <ahoneybun> lol
[16:01] <mhall119> then throw a small party :)
[16:01] <sturmflut2> mhall119: Well, didn't YOU make some money with an app that surely hit more than 1000 downloads?
[16:01] * sturmflut2 is on to something here
[16:02] <mhall119> sturmflut2: the paid app didn't get that many, but yes I did make a bit of spending money off it
[16:02] <sturmflut2> mhall119: So where is this party going to be
[16:03] <mhall119> sturmflut2: It would pay for a round of beer, yeah :)
[16:06] <BowlerFredrick_> bye guys .
[16:06] <BowlerFredrick_> leaves.
[19:12] <j3di_> hello
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2015-06-16-#ubuntu-it
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[06:22] <glpiana> ola
[06:26] <davyde84> hola signori
[08:51] <jester-> 'ngiorno
[08:52] <elenas> Giorno
[08:52] <elenas> Volevo sapere se esiste ubuntu touch per s3 neo single sim
[08:53] <jester-> elenas: non mi pare
[09:00] <davide> ciao
[09:03] <davide> irssi per win dove lo trvo
[09:03] <davide> :)
[09:05] <jester-> davide: boh
[09:05] <jester-> chiedi in ##windows
[09:06] <Carlin0> nel mentre cerca anche IE per linux
[09:06] <Carlin0> davide, se vuoi per win c'è hexchat
[09:06] <jester-> eh ma non andando da terminale non è figo
[09:07] <Carlin0> certo meglio craccare mirc :P
[09:21] <shakary> Saluti a tutti
[09:21] <shakary> mi trovo a smanettare su un glorioso ibook g4
[09:22] <shakary> nel quale girava tiger
[09:22] <shakary> ormai obsoleto
[09:22] <shakary> ho installato lubuntu 12.04
[09:22] <shakary> e funziona dignitosamente
[09:22] <glpiana> !enter | shakary
[09:22] <ubot-it> shakary: non spezzettare una frase su piu' righe. Non utilizzare il ritorno a capo come punteggiatura.
[09:25] <shakary> ho provato anche lubuntu 15.04 ma ad un certo punto si blocca. Nessuno di voi ha esperienze simili E qualcuno ha installato con successo un linux in questo laptop ?
[09:26] <uait> ciao a tutti, scusate, i pacchetti tar.gz vanno estratti giusto?
[09:27] <cybernova> uait, si
[09:27] <uait> grazie, e poi come faccio ad installare il contenuto?
[09:28] <cybernova> uait, ci sarà un file README o qualcosa del genere dentro che spiega, altrimenti devi guardare da dove hai scaricato il file
[09:28] <jester-> uait: tar è file compresso tipo zip
[09:28] <Carlin0> uait, non è detto che un file compresso contenga roba da installare
[09:28] <glpiana> uait, i tar.gz sono archivi, come gli zip. a seconda di quello che contengono ti comporti
[09:28] <uait> ok grazie a entrambi, si tratta di un gioco, quindi sicuramente devo installare no?
[09:28] <jester-> uait: e sempre che ci sia qualcosa da installare e non per es porni
[09:29] <uait> no jester- ahah
[09:29] <cybernova> uait, se non lo sai tu che hai scaricato quel file
[09:29] <cybernova> io di certo non lo so :)
[09:30] <jester-> è cmunque sconsigliabile installare roba non da repo o qiuantomeno in formato .deb
[09:30] <jester-> quantomeno*
[09:30] <Carlin0> uait, ma alla fine cosa devi installare ?
[09:30] <uait> http://download.wakfu.com/full/linux/ sono 10 mb potete scaricare?
[09:30] <uait> un gioco sarebbe
[09:31] <glpiana> uait, in questo canale non c'è supporto per software esterno ai repository ufficiali
[09:32] <glpiana> !chat | uait
[09:32] <ubot-it> uait: per qualsiasi argomento non inerente strettamente il supporto a ubuntu, /join #ubuntu-it-chat
[09:32] <uait> allora vado li grazie
[09:53] <shakary> nessuna rispossta al mio quesito?
[09:54] <jester-> shakary: si blocca perchè il pc non la supporta
[09:55] <jester-> shakary: e piu si va avanti e piu la retrocompatibilità viene ridotta, quindi vai di max lubuntu 14.04
[09:55] <shakary> parlavo della versione specifica x processori ppc quindi dovrebbe supportarla
[09:57] <shakary> in atto quella che gira decentemente ( con cento msg di sistema sia all'avvio che allo spegnimento ) è la 12.04
[09:58] <ExPBoy> shakary, ti si è già risposto
[09:58] <ExPBoy> non si può pretendere di più da quel pc
[09:58] <davide> quit
[09:59] <shakary> in definitiva possiamo concludere che pur continuando ad esistere distro per processori ppc non tutte vanno bene x ibook g4
[09:59] <ExPBoy> shakary, penso che sia inutile disquisire :)
[10:00] <ExPBoy> ma se vuoi chiaccherare vieni nel canale di chat
[10:00] <ExPBoy> !chat
[10:00] <ubot-it> per qualsiasi argomento non inerente strettamente il supporto a ubuntu, /join #ubuntu-it-chat
[10:00] <shakary> ultima perplessità ci gira meglio ubuntu o debian ?
[10:00] <ExPBoy> :(
[10:25] <cirelli94> Ciao ragazzi!
[10:25] <cirelli94> qualcuno è in linea? Ho un problemino che è una cavolata ma vorrei risolverlo...
[10:25] <akis24> cirelli94: esponilo magari qualcuno lo legge e risponde
[10:27] <cirelli94> io ho nelle impostazioni di utilizzare la tastiera italiana, ma quando avvia il pc tutte le volte è diversa, penso quella inglese. Nelle impostazioni è italiana, e anche nell'icona in alto a dx... però quando scrivo sbaglia alcuni caratteri...
[10:27] <akis24> cirelli94: versione di ubuntu ?
[10:27] <cirelli94> 15.04!7
[10:29] <akis24> cirelli94 apri il terminale e dai sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration segui il wizard e configura " usa generica 105 tasti (intl) "
[11:28] <panormus> ciao r
[11:29] <panormus> come faccio ad installare i file .tar.gz?
[11:30] <Carlin0> panormus, un *.tar.gz è solo un file compresso , non è detto che contenga roba installabile
[11:32] <panormus> è un programma di oracle
[11:32] <panormus> per ubuntu
[11:32] <Carlin0> che programma ?
[11:33] <panormus> jre-7u79
[11:35] <jacopo> ciao a tutti, ho appena installato xubuntu ultima versione, connetto l'HDMI alla tv ma mi dice nessun segnale, la cosa strana è che se faccio CTRL-ALT-CANC per riavviare l'immagine appare, mi chiede la password, inserisco e poi di nuovo schermo blu nessun segnale...cosa puo' essere secondo voi?
[11:36] <jester-> jacopo: scheda grafica?
[11:36] <jacopo> jester come lo scopro? scusa l'ignoranza
[11:44] <jacopo> il pc è un inspiron 3137
[11:51] <Ivanone> salve devo formattare una chiave usb con gparted live per installarci windows xp ma con g parted mi comunica che la memoria non è allocata che posso fare?
[11:52] <jacopo> scusate ho dovuto riavviare, se qualcuno mi aveva risposto, in sostanza ho che l'uscita hdmi del pc dà nessun segnale sullo schermo della tv. se pero' faccio cntrl-alt-canc l'immagine appare e mi chiede password...non appena la inserisco il sistema operativo si riavvia e scompARE L'IMMAGINE
[11:54] <Carlin0> Ivanone, se devi installare XP hai sbagliato canale
[11:54] <Ivanone> Carlin0:devo capire perchè non riesce a formattarla
[11:55] <Ivanone> Carlin0:in che senso ho sbagliato canale?
[11:56] <Carlin0> Ivanone, sei italiano ?
[11:56] <Ivanone> Carlin0:si
[11:57] <Carlin0> e allora mi pare che la mia frase non dia adito a dubbi
[11:57] <Ivanone> Carlin0:in che senso spiegati per cortesia
[11:58] <gigirock> Ivanone, ricapitola e spiegati meglio
Ivanone, se devi installare XP hai sbagliato canale ← cosa non ti è chiaro ?
[11:59] <gigirock> Ivanone, per salvarti di che volevi creare una chiavetta con la live di ubuntu per avere gparted
[12:00] <Ivanone> gigirock:scusami ma cercavo assistenza con gparted di debian: ho avviato gparted per cercare di formattare una chiavetta usb per poterci installare successivamente xp ma il programma in live di gparted mi dice che l'unità non è allocata che posso fare?
[12:02] <Ivanone> gigirock:e sopratutto per poterci installare windows xp va formattata in fat 32 o ntfs?
[12:03] <starforce> ciao a tutti
[12:03] <starforce> è possibile postare qui una domanda a carattere tecnico?
[12:04] <Carlin0> !chiedi | starforce
[12:04] <ubot-it> starforce: per cortesia non chiedere il permesso di chiedere, semplicemente formula la domanda (tutta su una riga, in modo tale che gli altri possano leggerla e seguirla con facilità). Se qualcuno conosce la risposta ti risponderà :-)
[12:04] <starforce> grazie
[12:04] <Ivanone> gigirock:hai novità?
[12:06] <starforce> Ho installato la versione 14.04 di ubuntu. Tutto ok ma non riesco a far funzionare la webcam creative ct6840. Sembra che il sistema la riconosce ma in skype ad esempio non si vede l'immagine. Ho letto in vari forum di questo problema con questo modello esatto di webcam ma non son riuscito a trovare la soluzione.
[12:07] <starforce> Sarei grato a chi potesse fornire una soluzione in merito. Grazie
[12:11] <gigirock> starforce hai installato cheese ?
[12:11] <gigirock> !info cheese
[12:11] <ubot-it> cheese (source: cheese): tool to take pictures and videos from your webcam. In component main, is optional. Version 3.10.2-0ubuntu2 (trusty), package size 47 kB, installed size 397 kB
[12:11] <gigirock> Ivanone, non ho tempo ora
[12:12] <Ivanone> devo formattare una chiavetta usb con gparted di debian per poterci installare successivamente xp ma il programma in live di gparted mi dice che l'unità non è allocata che posso fare?
[12:14] <jacopo> scusate ho un ptoblema con l'uscita hdmi: nessun segnale (schermo blu), pero' se disconnetto il sistema (CNTRL-ALT-CANC) l'immagine appre, poi metto la password, accedo al sistema operativo e di nuovo nessun segnale. Come mai?
[12:16] <Ivanone> qualcuno potrebbe darmi un consiglio per cortesia?
[12:20] <Ivanone> chiedo scusa qualcuno potrebbe darmi qualche consiglio?
[12:20] <starforce> grazie gigirock, provo a installarlo.
[12:24] <starforce> gigirock ho visto che cheese è già preinstallato
[12:25] <starforce> l'ho aperto ed effettivamente la webcam funziona
[12:25] <starforce> con cheese
[12:26] <Ivanone> Salve, chiedo gentilmente assistenza : devo formattare una chiavetta usb con gparted di debian per poi installarci xp ma il programma in live di parted mi dice che l'unità non è allocata posso chiedere istruzioni per cortesia? grazie
[12:27] <krabador> Ivanone, apri gparted , seleziona la pendrive e crea nuova tabella partizioni
[12:28] <Ivanone> krabador:non lo esegue
[12:29] <krabador> se il tuo sistema non esegue gparted è un altro paio di maniche
[12:29] <Ivanone> krabador:no gparted parte e vede benissimo tutto anche la chiavetta ma quel comando non lo esegue
[12:29] <krabador> "quel comando" ---> ?
[12:30] <Ivanone> krabador:crea nuova tabella
[12:30] <starforce> in cheese funziona, ma con skype continua a non funzionare
[12:30] <giano> dalve a tutti, mia madre ha un pc con lubutu (su pressione mia) e penso abbia fatto una piccola cazzata, nel senso che se cerco di accendere il pc mi da un errore che è: error: file/boot/brub/i386-pc/boot.mood not found
[12:30] <krabador> !grub | giano
[12:30] <Ivanone> krabador:tipo di tabella msdos?
[12:30] <ubot-it> giano: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/AmministrazioneSistema/Grub/ | Per ripristinare Grub: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/AmministrazioneSistema/Grub/Ripristino
[12:31] <krabador> giano, segui la guida ripristino
[12:31] <giano> e mi da spazoi per dare comandi, sapete aiutarmi? penso che lei abbia interrotto un aggiornamento
[12:31] <giano> ok grazie
[12:31] <giano> ci provo
[12:31] <krabador> Ivanone, si
[12:32] <Ivanone> krabador:ok mi dice sempre non allocato ora che devo fare?
[12:32] <krabador> starforce, che versione di ubuntu e che versione di skype?
[12:32] <krabador> !image | Ivanone
[12:32] <ubot-it> Ivanone: Carica un'immagine su https://imgur.com/ | http://imageshack.us/ (richiede registrazione) e metti un collegamento ad essa in canale.
[12:34] <Ivanone> krabador:l'ho lanciato con altro pc che è connesso ma sto usando gparted live
[12:35] <krabador> Ivanone, già sei abbondantemente offtopic,se poi non mandi neanche documentazione di errori
[12:35] <Ivanone> krabador:dimmi che posso comunicarti---
[12:37] <Ivanone> krabador:quando dice non allocato che può voler dire?
[12:39] <starforce> ubuntu 14.04, skype 4.3
[12:42] <Ivanone> ?
[13:00] <giano> krabador: grazie infinite, ci sono riuscto
[13:34] <krabador> starforce, hai installato da repository o scaricando il pacchetto dal sito ?
[13:40] <jighen_> ragazzi ho un problema ed avrei bisogno di una mano ho installato windows 8 su un pc portatile uefi e vorrei installare in dual boot ubuntu lts ma quando apro gparted per sistemare le partizioni mi dice
[13:40] <jighen_> e non mi vede la partizione di windows
[13:40] <jighen_> /dev/sda contains GPT signatures, indicating that it has a GPT table. However, it does not have a valid fake msdos partition table, as it should. Perhaps it was corrupted -- possibly by a program that doesn't understand GPT partition tables. Or perhaps you deleted the GPT table, and are now using an msdos partition table. Is this a GPT partition table?
[13:43] <jighen_> qualcuno sa dirmi cosa c-[ che non va e come faccio per risolvere_
[13:44] <gigirock> jighen_, con cosa 'apri gparted' ?
[13:44] <jighen_> dalla live di ubuntu lts
[13:44] <jighen_> perora sono in live
[13:44] <gigirock> jighen_, caricata la live sulla usb pen ?
[13:45] <jighen_> no da dvd
[13:46] <gigirock> ok , jighen_ quando 'booti' dal primo menu , non trovi una scelta "avvia DVD uefi ? "
[13:46] <jighen_> e da li che ho avviato la live
[13:46] <gigirock> jighen_, e non ci sono altre scelte per avviare il dvd ?
[13:47] <jighen_> c'è quella ''normale'' e quella uefi
[13:47] <jighen_> ed io ho avviato liave da quella uefi per quello non capisco perche non mi vede le partizioni
[13:47] <jighen_> la live*
[13:48] <gigirock> !uefi
[13:48] <ubot-it> UEFI è una specifica che definisce una interfaccia software tra un sistema operativo e le piattaforme firmware, è intesa come un sostituto del BIOS. Per informazioni su come impostare e installare Ubuntu su macchine UEFI vedi http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione/UEFI | vedi anche https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[13:48] <gigirock> jighen_, e' triste ma ti devi leggere sto tomo
[13:49] <jighen_> gigirock ho seguito lo stesso wiki :D tempo fa sullo stesso pc l'avevo installato e non ho avuto problemi facendo la stessa procedura
[13:51] <gigirock> jighen_, hai disabilitato quanto richiesto nel bios e nel win 8 ?=
[13:51] <gigirock> jighen_, hai disabilitato quanto richiesto nel bios e nel win 8 ?
[13:52] <jighen_> si certo seno non avrei nemmeno potuto avviare la live :D
[13:53] <gigirock> jighen_, non ho esperienza diretta in merito ma la partizione GPT deve essere configurata ad hoc perche' gparted la veda...
[13:54] <jighen_> va be grazie lo stesso provo a rifare la procedura magari ho sbagliato qualche cosa e in caso torno :D
[14:20] <prtnfjn> ho urgente bisogno di aiuto
[14:21] <gigirock> !aiuto
[14:21] <ubot-it> per cortesia non chiedere il permesso di chiedere, semplicemente formula la domanda (tutta su una riga, in modo tale che gli altri possano leggerla e seguirla con facilità). Se qualcuno conosce la risposta ti risponderà :-)
[14:21] <Carlin0> !aiuto | prtnfjn
[14:21] <ubot-it> prtnfjn: please see above
[14:21] <prtnfjn> non riesco a installare ne lubuntu ne xubuntu
[14:22] <gigirock> prtnfjn, ci servono + particolari... dove come quando non riesci in queste installazioni ?
[14:24] <prtnfjn> ho fatto una pennina usb con xubuntu, quando vado sulla voce "prova xubuntu senza installarlo" rimane tutto nero... ho provato anche un comando nomodeset, ma non si risolve niente...
[14:24] <prtnfjn> il pc è vecchio
[14:24] <Carlin0> con cosa l'hai fatta la penna ?
[14:24] <gigirock> prtnfjn, su che pc installi ?
[14:24] <prtnfjn> unetbootin
[14:24] <Carlin0> !usbwin | prtnfjn
[14:25] <ubot-it> prtnfjn: Scarica Universal USB Installer: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/ | Installalo su Windows e lancialo: lui si occuperà di trasferire l'immagine ISO su USB. Guida: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows | Opzionalmente questo programma può anche scaricare lui stesso l'immagine ISO
[14:25] <prtnfjn> vi mando le specifiche hardware
[14:26] <Carlin0> prtnfjn, fallo con sto programma la penna
[14:26] <prtnfjn> Va bene
[14:42] <nfhgf> non ho risolto. . . (sono quello di prima con xubuntu)
[16:28] <Pepuzzo> Buonasera scusate ma più o meno quanto ci mette il sistema operativo ad installarsi?
[16:30] <krabador> Pepuzzo, dipende dall'hardware
[16:30] <Pepuzzo> si ok grazie ma su un computer che rispetta solo i requisiti di sistema?
[16:31] <Pepuzzo> i requisiti minimi
[16:33] <krabador> Pepuzzo, per favore, segnala cpu ram e scheda video ,con precisione , e tipo di hd
[16:33] <krabador> facciamo prima
[16:33] <Pepuzzo> ok
[16:35] <Pepuzzo> aspetta
[16:40] <Pepuzzo> cpu: 1Ghz X86 ram:1 GB scheda video: 2D 1024X768 hd:16 BG
[16:40] <Pepuzzo> questo è ciò che so
[16:40] <Pepuzzo> se hai domande chiedi pure
[16:42] <Pepuzzo> 1024X600 la scheda video
[16:46] <krabador> Pepuzzo, che cpu
[18:43] <giacomo_c> ragazzi ho un piccolo problema.. mi è sparito aggiornamenti e software da linux..quindi non posso più gestire le repository
[18:44] <cristian_c> giacomo_c, ti è sparito dopo un aggiornamento?
[18:44] <giacomo_c> non ho fatto aggiornamenti di distro, solo piccoli aggiornamenti di applicazioni
[18:45] <cristian_c> giacomo_c, infatti mica ho parlato di aggiornamento di release
[18:45] <giacomo_c> lo so ho solo detto
[18:46] <giacomo_c> comunque no lo so non controllo molto spesso le repository installate
[18:46] <giacomo_c> ne dovevo cancellare una e ho notato che manca aggiornamenti e software sia dal menù impostazioni che dal menù a tendina
[18:47] <cristian_c> eh, allora
[18:47] <cristian_c> giacomo_c, digita: sudo apt-get update
[18:47] <cristian_c> !paste | giacomo_c
[18:47] <ubot-it> giacomo_c: http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[18:48] <giacomo_c> se dò questo comando mi scarica tutto e poi mi dice che manca un file packages in una repository che dovrei eliminare
[18:49] <cristian_c> giacomo_c, incolla su pastebin
[18:51] <giacomo_c> ecco: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11726543/ quasi dimenticavo prima di aggiungere la repository era uscito che il comando "add-apt-repository" non esisteva e ho dovuto reinstallarlo
[18:52] <cfrtyu> Ragazzi ho urgente bisogno di aiuto. Ho un ibm thinkcentre 9216-74g, vorrei tanto installare ubuntu, ma essendo l'hardware troppo obsoleto ho scelto di installare xubuntu, per via dell'interfaccia più leggera. Quando carico xubuntu da usb scelgo di provarlo senza installarlo, e dopo qualche minuto lo schermo rimane nero... Lo stesso accade con lubu
[18:52] <cfrtyu> ntu... quale puo essere il problema?
[18:53] <krabador> cfrtyu, puoi specificare chiaramente cpu / ram / scheda video ?
[18:55] <cfrtyu> Certo, cpu: intel pentium 4 3.6 gHz, ram 1,5 gb, scheda video "sis mirage graphics" 32 mb
[18:56] <krabador> cfrtyu, al menu di "prova senza installare" premi f6
[18:56] <krabador> seleziona nomodeset
[18:56] <krabador> seleziona la prova
[18:57] <cfrtyu> già provato, non funziona purtroppo
[18:57] <krabador> cfrtyu, la sis è la scheda meno supportata della storia
[18:58] <krabador> cfrtyu, puoi controllare quante e quali sono le opzioni acpi nel bios della macchina ?
[18:58] <cfrtyu> va bene ,ora riavvio
[19:00] <giacomo_c> cristian_c puoi aiutarmi?
[19:00] <cristian_c> W: Impossibile recuperare http://ppa.launchpad.net/shnatsel/zram/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/binary-i386/Packages 404 Not Found
[19:00] <cristian_c> a cosa ti serve?
[19:01] <krabador> giacomo_c, un ppa, che , tanto per cambiare, è offline, e blocca gli aggiornamenti
[19:02] <giacomo_c> era zram ma non trovando il packages volevo toglierla
[19:04] <giacomo_c> krabador a me manca questo: http://lh6.ggpht.com/-APyGDjzlEOk/UzqtLTJmuBI/AAAAAAABVSQ/GCY-g5dX07E/s1200/sorgenti-software-ubuntu.jpg tra le ap
[19:04] <giacomo_c> app*
[19:05] <krabador> usi saucy ?
[19:05] <giacomo_c> saucy?
[19:05] <krabador> giacomo_c, l'immagine, è uno screen del tuo sistema?
[19:06] <giacomo_c> no è presa da internet perchè a me manca software e aggiornamenti
[19:06] <cfrtyu> L'unica voce che trovo è: Tipo sospensione ACPI, impostata su S3 (SRT)
[19:06] <krabador> giacomo_c, che versione di ubuntu hai ?
[19:06] <krabador> cfrtyu, che opzioni ha ?
[19:07] <giacomo_c> xubuntu 14.04 LTS
[19:07] <cfrtyu> Dovrei controllare, cosa che sbadatamente non ho fatto... provvedo
[19:07] <krabador> giacomo_c, in ogni caso, se non rimuovi quel ppa, gli aggiornamenti rimarranno bloccati
[19:08] <giacomo_c> e come faccio?
[19:08] <krabador> giacomo_c, apri terminale, digita software-properties-gtk
[19:08] <krabador> apre una finestra, va in altro software
[19:08] <krabador> togli la spunta
[19:09] <krabador> giacomo_c, ma hai precedentemente installato software da quel ppa ?
[19:09] <giacomo_c> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11726636/
[19:09] <giacomo_c> no
[19:10] <jacopo> buonasera a tutti! Ho un problema con l'uscita HDMI: funziona a volte
[19:10] <krabador> giacomo_c, sudo apt-get install pastebinit , sudo apt-get update | pastebinit
[19:11] <giacomo_c> cos'è pastebinit?
[19:11] <krabador> giacomo_c, il secondo restituisce un link
[19:11] <krabador> giacomo_c, si occupa di fare il pastebin automatico dei comandi
[19:11] <krabador> per ottimizzare tempo
[19:12] <giacomo_c> krabador io avevo perso, non so come, software-properties-gtk
[19:12] <giacomo_c> che gestisce i repository
[19:12] <krabador> giacomo_c, vuoi seguire quanto suggerito?
[19:13] <giacomo_c> ma ho risolto
[19:13] <cfrtyu> C'è un'altra opzione chiamata S1(POS)
[19:13] <krabador> ok giacomo_c ,quando hai bisogno di assistenza, torna pure qui
[19:14] <krabador> cfrtyu, allora, lascialo stare come l'hai trovato, fa partire il supporto di xubuntu, premi f6, selezioni acpi=off ,nomodeset, e fai partire prova senza installare
[19:14] <giacomo_c> io avevo perso software-properties-gtk che gestisce i repository. Non so come si è disinstallato però è successo.. Son entrato qui per chiedere come riaverlo
[19:15] <cfrtyu> credo di aver provato anche selezionando acpi=off, ma senza risultato
[19:15] <krabador> cfrtyu, "credo"
[19:15] <krabador> o provi , o ci giriamo i pollici
[19:16] <cfrtyu> Hai ragione. Adesso provo con acpi=off
[19:16] <krabador> giacomo_c, e ti si sta fornendo assistenza, ma giri intorno ai comandi che ti si stanno segnalando
[19:18] <krabador> we, ma quanti siete
[19:19] <jacopo> c'è un numeretto :)
[19:19] <jacopo> ?
[19:21] <giacomo_c> krabador http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11726697/ capito ora?
[19:22] <krabador> giacomo_c, il pastebin è del comando apt-get update
[19:22] <krabador> che ti ho chiesto
[19:23] <cristian_c> jacopo, non c'è nessun numeretto
[19:23] <giacomo_c> ora lo posto
[19:23] <cristian_c> jacopo, ma dovresti esporre il tuo problema, se speri di ottenere considerazione
[19:23] <jacopo> cristian scherzavo :)...l'ho esposto il problema: non mi funge l'HDMI out
[19:23] <krabador> "funziona a volte" non è esporre un problema
[19:24] <jacopo> anzi funziona fino a quando non inserisco la password
[19:24] <krabador> jacopo, l'hotplug funziona ?
[19:24] <krabador> che ubuntu?
[19:24] <jacopo> poi una volta dentro la tv mi dice "nessun segnale"
[19:24] <krabador> che scheda video?
[19:24] <krabador> cose del genere, devi segnalare
[19:24] <jacopo> xubuntu ultima versione
[19:24] <giacomo_c> krabador eccolo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11726711/
[19:25] <jacopo> scheda video dove lo vedo da qui? Lo saprei fare da windows non da qui
[19:25] <krabador> giacomo_c, sudo apt-get -y dist-upgrade | pastebinit
[19:26] <krabador> jacopo, apri terminale
[19:26] <krabador> jacopo, sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[19:26] <giacomo_c> danto quel comando mi installa l'ultimo kernel perchè devo ancora installarlo
[19:26] <krabador> jacopo, sudo lshw -C video | pastebinit
[19:26] <krabador> giacomo_c, esegue l'aggiornamento di sistema
[19:27] <giacomo_c> ma non la release
[19:27] <krabador> no, non passa di release
[19:27] <krabador> rimane 14.04
[19:27] <giacomo_c> ho da installare l'ultimo kernel quindi ci vorrà un po'
[19:28] <krabador> è importante vedere se ci sono problemi, per quello serve il pastebin
[19:28] <jacopo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11726719/
[19:28] <giacomo_c> si si solo che ho internet che fa chifo e ci vorrà un po'
[19:28] <krabador> jacopo, <krabador> jacopo, l'hotplug funziona ?
[19:29] <jacopo> intendi la presa hardware?
[19:30] <krabador> hotplug = attaccare a caldo
[19:31] <jacopo> scusate, rieccomi
[19:32] <jacopo> krabador che cos'é l'hot plug?
[19:32] <krabador> inserire la presa hdmi a sistema operativo caricato
[19:32] <cfrtyu> Allora, premendo f6 si sente un beep, premendo tab riesco a digitare il comando... anche se non ha funzionato. ho notato che con unetbootin l'installazione è diversa, ma non riuscivo lo stesso.. prima ho provato con pendrivelinux
[19:33] <giacomo_c> io per l'installazione uso lili
[19:33] <giacomo_c> lili: http://www.linuxliveusb.com/
[19:33] <cfrtyu> Per ora sono riuscito con ubuntu, ma va lentissimo, e con lucid puppy
[19:33] <jacopo> no non mi dà segnale ma fino a un attimo prima si (prima di inserire la password insomma)
[19:33] <cfrtyu> provo con questo, grazie
[19:34] <krabador> cfrtyu, non farlo
[19:34] <krabador> !usbwin | cfrtyu
[19:34] <ubot-it> cfrtyu: Scarica Universal USB Installer: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/ | Installalo su Windows e lancialo: lui si occuperà di trasferire l'immagine ISO su USB. Guida: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows | Opzionalmente questo programma può anche scaricare lui stesso l'immagine ISO
[19:34] <krabador> usa questo
[19:34] <krabador> per fare la usb
[19:34] <krabador> cfrtyu, unetbootin non consente di modificare parametri, avresti dovuto segnalare da prima, cosa hai usato per fare la usb
[19:35] <giacomo_c> perchè LilLi non va bene? io lo uso per pendrive linux
[19:35] <cfrtyu> ho usato anche pendrivelinux, stesso risultato
[19:36] <krabador> cfrtyu, vuoi , una buona volta, metterti a dire cosa hai fatto, e dettagliatamente
[19:36] <krabador> piuttosto che far scoprire cose man mano a chi si mette a cercare di aiutarti?
[19:36] <krabador> cfrtyu, "stesso risultato" ---> cioè ?
[19:36] <jacopo> krabador il fatto che sia una tv e non un monitor solo per pc influisce in qualcosa?
[19:37] <cfrtyu> (schermo nero)
[19:37] <krabador> jacopo, puoi rispondere alla domanda di prima ?
[19:37] <krabador> cfrtyu, usa universal usb installer per fare la pendrive,a pendrive formattata
[19:37] <jacopo> se ho capito la domanda la risposta e' " no non mi dà segnale ma fino a un attimo prima si (prima di inserire la password insomma)
[19:37] <cfrtyu> fat32?
[19:38] <krabador> cfrtyu, si, dopo di che, mandalo in boot, applicando le opzioni di f6
[19:38] <krabador> jacopo, non hai capito la domanda
[19:38] <cfrtyu> non funziona nemmeno universal usb installer, premendo f6 si sente un beep
[19:38] <krabador> jacopo, carichi il sistema operativo, inizi ad usarlo
[19:39] <krabador> jacopo, dopo di che, attacchi il cavo hdmi
[19:39] <krabador> "fare un hotplug"
[19:41] <krabador> cfrtyu, premi f6 e vedi se in basso appare una linea
[19:42] <cfrtyu> Ora provo
[19:42] <giacomo_c> krabador http://paste.ubuntu.com/11726773/
[19:43] <krabador> giacomo_c, sudo apt-get -y autoremove | pastebinit
[19:43] <krabador> giacomo_c, sudo apt-get install software-properties-gtk | pastebinit
[19:45] <jacopo> krabador se faccio così sulla tv non ho alcun segnale. Non ti ho detto che si tratta di un portatile. Dopo aver installato xubuntu ho collegato la presa hdmi ma nessun segnale sulla tv quindi ho fatto CTRL-ALT-CANC per riavviare e vedere se con windows invece l'uscita HDMI funziona, in realtà non ho riavviato facendo Ctrl-alt-canc ma ho solo dis
[19:45] <jacopo> connesso, xubuntu mi ha chiesto la password , il segnale in quel momento è apparso sulla tv. Metto la password rientro in xubunto e di nuovo nessun segnale.
[19:46] <giacomo_c> krabador
[19:46] <giacomo_c> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11726803/
[19:46] <giacomo_c> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11726808/
[19:46] <krabador> jacopo, avvia xubuntu, e solo a sistema operativo caricato , attacca l'hdmi , apri terminale, sudo xrandr | pastebinit
[19:47] <cfrtyu> Ho provato, non appare nessuna linea
[19:47] <krabador> giacomo_c, "software-properties-gtk è già alla versione più recente."
[19:47] <giacomo_c> si perchè l'ho instalato prima
[19:47] <cfrtyu> solo un beep
[19:47] <giacomo_c> installato*
[19:47] <krabador> giacomo_c, e allora cosa stai facendo ancora qui ?
[19:47] <jacopo> perfetto ora lo faccio
[19:48] <giacomo_c> ti ho solo detto il mio problema e che avevo risolto ma mi hai detto di dare questi coandi
[19:48] <giacomo_c> comandi*
[19:50] <krabador> giacomo_c, non leggo pastebin con la storia della vita di un utente, mi sono limitato ad andare avanti con "Son entrato qui per chiedere come riaverlo"
[19:50] <krabador> giacomo_c, hai altre domande?
[19:51] <krabador> cfrtyu, a che monitor è attaccato il pc ?
[19:51] <cfrtyu> Marca?
[19:51] <cfrtyu> o connettore?
[19:51] <krabador> connettore, e pollici
[19:51] <cfrtyu> vga, 17"
[19:52] <jacopo> krabador http://paste.ubuntu.com/11726832/
[19:52] <giacomo_c> krabador sono 3 volte che dico: "avevo perso software-properties-gtk che gestisce le repository" tu mi hai detto " apri terminale, digita software-properties-gtk
[19:52] <giacomo_c> apre una finestra, va in altro software
[19:52] <giacomo_c> togli la spunta " ma non avendolo l'ho installato e ho risolto ma tu hai detto di dare comunque quei comndi
[19:52] <giacomo_c> comandi*
[19:52] <krabador> giacomo_c, puoi fare caso, che quando sei entrato io non c'ero
[19:53] <giacomo_c> e io ti avevo detto che avevo già risolto
[19:53] <giacomo_c> ma mi hai seguito tu per il problema
[19:53] <krabador> giacomo_c, tutto cio' che è stato detto prima delle 20:52 non posso saperlo
[19:58] <cristian_c> jacopo,
[19:58] <cristian_c> jacopo, edpi?
[19:58] <jacopo> che intendi con edpi?
[19:59] <cristian_c> è nel tuo output
[19:59] <cristian_c> Embedded DisplayPort (eDP) 1.0 standard was adopted in December 2008. It aims to define a standardized display panel interface for internal connections; e.g., graphics cards to notebook display panels
[20:00] <cristian_c> jacopo, quindi è un laptop, giusto?
[20:00] <giacomo_c> krabador: giacomo_c: krabador io avevo perso, non so come, software-properties-gtk
[20:00] <giacomo_c> che gestisce i repository
[20:00] <giacomo_c> krabador: giacomo_c, vuoi seguire quanto suggerito?
[20:00] <giacomo_c> giacomo_c: ma ho risolto
[20:00] <jacopo> si esatto
[20:00] <giacomo_c> poi mi hai detto di dare comunque i comandi
[20:00] <akis24> ne siamo lieti giacomo_c che hai risolto era quello lo scopo alla fine
[20:01] <cristian_c> cfrtyu, quale file .iso hai scaricato?
[20:02] <cfrtyu> 13.04 32-bit
[20:02] <cfrtyu> xubuntu
[20:02] <cristian_c> cfrtyu, la 13.04 non è supportata da un bel po'
[20:03] <cfrtyu> Scarico la lts o la 15.04?
[20:03] <giacomo_c> akis24 lo so e avevo detto di aver risolto avevo detto il mio problema ma mi ha detto di dare i comandi lo stesso
[20:05] <cristian_c> jacopo,
[20:07] <cristian_c> jacopo, hai provato a utilizzare l'apposito tasto sulla tastiera?
[20:08] <jacopo> non ne vedo
[20:08] <jacopo> che simbolo dovrebbe avere?
[20:08] <jacopo> ++ù
[20:09] <cristian_c> jacopo, che portatile è?
[20:09] <jacopo> dell inspiron 3137
[20:10] <cristian_c> quello touch da 11"?
[20:10] <jacopo> si
[20:12] <cristian_c> jacopo, i pulsanti della prima riga
[20:12] <cristian_c> jacopo, non hai il manuale del pc?
[20:13] <jacopo> no preso usato, se escludiamo xubuntu cerco in rete come attivare l'hdmi
[20:14] <cristian_c> jacopo, magari è meglio scaricare il manuale
[20:14] <cristian_c> jacopo, non ti hanno dato il manuale col pc?
[20:24] <cristian_c> jacopo, mi pare quello in corrispondenza di f7
[20:25] <fede71> salve ho fatto un'installazione fresca fresca della 15.04 ma il mio pc lenovo x61tablet ha perso il controllo dello schermo tattile e tutti i tasti funzione
[20:27] <cristian_c> intel core 2 duo?
[20:27] <fede71> non ho capito perchè il supporto per gli schermi wacom e scomparso..
[20:27] <fede71> si quello 4gb di ram scheda video intel
[20:27] <cristian_c> fede71, dove funzionava?
[20:28] <cristian_c> gma x3100 o gma 950?
[20:28] <fede71> nella versione 10.04 la penna veniva vista e andava al posto del mouse..
[20:28] <cristian_c> la penna?
[20:28] <fede71> gma950
[20:28] <cristian_c> ok
[20:28] <fede71> si la penna
[20:29] <fede71> ho provato ad orientarmi nei forum in inglese ma si riferiscono a versioni vecchie ora penso che la gestione sia cambiata..
[20:30] <fede71> cè lo snap in della wacom ma non mi vede nulla
[20:30] <cristian_c> ho il dubbio che c'entri la scheda grafica
[20:31] <cristian_c> fede71, probabilmente è la scheda grafica ad aver perso il supporto
[20:31] <fede71> ho verificato la scheda è la 965
[20:32] <fede71> pensi che stia funzionando in modalità vesa ??
[20:32] <cristian_c> fede71, lshw -c video
[20:32] <cristian_c> !paste
[20:33] <ubot-it> http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[20:34] <fede71> *-generic
[20:34] <fede71> description: SD Host controller
[20:34] <fede71> product: R5C822 SD/SDIO/MMC/MS/MSPro Host Adapter
[20:34] <fede71> vendor: Ricoh Co Ltd
[20:34] <fede71> physical id: 0.2
[20:34] <fede71> bus info: pci@0000:05:00.2
[20:37] <cristian_c> fede71, incolla tutto su pastebin
[20:37] <cristian_c> compreso il comando
[20:38] <fede71> scusa ignoranza ma cosa è pastebin ??
[20:38] <cristian_c> !paste | fa
[20:38] <ubot-it> fa: http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[20:38] <cristian_c> !paste | fede71
[20:38] <ubot-it> fede71: http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[20:51] <jacopo> cristian_c se accedo con password niente segnale hdmi, se accedo come sessione ospite il segnale c'è...non è una questione di impostazioni privacy forse?
[20:52] <fede71> ragazzi che avventura non capisco come mai di colpo freezato tutto tastiera bloccata !!
[20:52] <cristian_c> jacopo, allora
[20:52] <cristian_c> fede71, incolla tutto su pastebin
[20:52] <fede71> ho inviato su pastebin
[20:52] <cristian_c> fede71, non hai postato il link al tuo paste
[20:53] <fede71> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11727175/
[20:53] <cristian_c> fede71, sei loggato come root?
[20:53] <cristian_c> O.o
[20:54] <fede71> la shell la uso in su
[20:56] <cristian_c> fede71, sbagliato
[20:56] <cristian_c> e pericoloso
[20:56] <cristian_c> jacopo, utilizzi unity?
[20:56] <jacopo> non so cosa sia unity
[20:57] <cristian_c> !unity | jacopo
[20:57] <ubot-it> jacopo: Unity è la UI di default da Ubuntu 11.04. Unity è una shell per GNOME. Vedi http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/AmbienteGrafico/Unity Guida uso e Configurazione: https://help.ubuntu.com/13.10/ubuntu-help/index.html Per una esperienza simil-GNOME 2, vedi !notunity
[20:57] <cristian_c> jacopo, quale desktop stai utilizzando?
[20:57] <jacopo> xubuntu 15.04
[20:57] <cristian_c> ok, xfce
[20:57] <cristian_c> jacopo, allora
[20:58] <cristian_c> jacopo, entra con il tuo utente
[20:58] <jacopo> ok già ci sono
[21:01] <cristian_c> jacopo, ls -al ~/.config
[21:02] <cristian_c> !paste | ja
[21:02] <ubot-it> ja: http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[21:02] <cristian_c> !paste | jacopo
[21:02] <ubot-it> jacopo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[21:03] <jacopo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11727238/
[21:06] <cristian_c> ok
[21:07] <cristian_c> jacopo, 15.04?
[21:07] <fede71> mi sto guardando attorno ma non trovo nulla su versioni cosi nuove come 14 o 15..
[21:07] <jacopo> si
[21:07] <cristian_c> product: Mobile PM965/GM965/GL960 Memory Controller Hub
[21:09] <cristian_c> jacopo, mv ~/.config/xfce ~/.config/xfce-bak
[21:09] <cristian_c> product: Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (primary)
[21:10] <cristian_c> fede71, uhm, il display sembra essere a posto
[21:10] <cristian_c> fede71, digita: xrandr -q
[21:10] <cristian_c> !paste | fede71
[21:10] <ubot-it> fede71: http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[21:10] <jacopo> dice impossibile eseguire stat
[21:10] <fede71> ok un attimo..
[21:10] <cristian_c> !paste | jacopo
[21:10] <ubot-it> jacopo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[21:11] <jacopo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11727274/
[21:11] <cristian_c> ah, errore mio
[21:12] <cristian_c> jacopo, mv ~/.config/xfce4 ~/.config/xfce-bak
[21:12] <fede71> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11727278/
[21:12] <cristian_c> 1024x768 60.0*+ 60.0
[21:12] <cristian_c> fede71, quanti pollici è il display?
[21:12] <jacopo> fatto
[21:12] <fede71> 12"
[21:13] <fede71> in 4:3
[21:13] <cristian_c> fede71, è ok la risoluzione?
[21:14] <fede71> è un portatile lenovo tipo industriale uso ufficio lettore schede schermo ruotabile di 180° penna (wacom)
[21:14] <cristian_c> rispetto alla 10.04
[21:14] <cristian_c> jacopo, intanto prova a riavviare la sessione
[21:14] <fede71> mi da 1024X768 si non mi da ulteriore scelta
[21:14] <jacopo> okok
[21:17] <cristian_c> fede71, nel senso se è ok
[21:18] <cristian_c> o se hai avuto una risoluzione migliore in passato
[21:18] <fede71> si funziona...i caratteri e le icone sono alla dimensione ideale..
[21:18] <cristian_c> ok
[21:18] <cristian_c> ok, quindi possiamo escludere un problema di grafica
[21:18] <fede71> tenendo conto che è un 12" non necessita di risoluzioni spinte
[21:19] <cristian_c> fede71, lspci -k
[21:19] <cristian_c> !paste | fede71
[21:19] <ubot-it> fede71: http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[21:19] <jacopo> cristian_c for president! Grazie :D
[21:19] <cristian_c> jacopo, funza?
[21:19] <fede71> mi è parso di capire in un forum in inglese che era legato al fatto che non ha più i driver specifici per quel tipo di tavoletta /schermo
[21:20] <cristian_c> jacopo, è stata semplicemente resettata la configurazione di xfce per il tuo utente
[21:20] <cristian_c> fede71, digita il comando
[21:21] <jacopo> si funziona, ora ho lo schermo del pc che strasborda ma non importa, tv perfetta!
[21:21] <fede71> arrivo sono in cut paste
[21:21] <cristian_c> jacopo, imposta direttamente dalla tv
[21:21] <jacopo> ok!
[21:22] <fede71> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11727306/
[21:22] <jacopo> grazie mille della pazienza!
[21:23] <cristian_c> jacopo, la cartella xfce-bak puoi pure cancellarla
[21:23] <cristian_c> è quella vecchia e non ti dovrebbe servire pi
[21:23] <cristian_c> *più
[21:23] <jacopo> ah ok, perfetto
[21:23] <fede71> non me ne intendo ma a spanne non è + riconosciutao dal kernel:-(
[21:24] <fennec> salve sto preparando una live con xubuntu, per avere un minimo di settaggi salvati, quanto mi consigliereste di impostare alla voce persistenza? grazie
[21:24] <cristian_c> jacopo, infatti xfce4 è stata ricreata in .config
[21:25] <fede71> guarda questo sulla 10.4 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1544333
[21:25] <jacopo> bene perfetto un vero sollievo essere tornato su ubuntu dopo i triboli di windows
[21:25] <cristian_c> fede71, xinput list
[21:27] <cristian_c> fede71, dipende molto dalla capienza della pendrive
[21:27] <cristian_c> più spazio hai, più ne puoi utilizzare
[21:27] <cristian_c> ops
[21:27] <fede71> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11727329/
[21:27] <cristian_c> fennec, dipende molto dalla capienza della pendrive
[21:27] <cristian_c> più spazio hai, più ne puoi utilizzare
[21:28] <fennec> 512 MB possono bastare?
[21:28] <cristian_c> ↳ ThinkPad Extra Buttons id=11 [slave keyboard (3)]
[21:28] <cristian_c> fennec, non so, ma se non hai altro spazio...
[21:28] <cristian_c> ⎜ ↳ TPPS/2 IBM TrackPoint id=10 [slave pointer (2)]
[21:29] <cristian_c> fede71, vedo solo pulsanti e trackpoint
[21:29] <cristian_c> fede71, lsusb && lsusb -t
[21:30] <fede71> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11727346/
[21:31] <fennec> mi basta solo perché si ricordi la password di rete, i colori desktop font, non credo di mettere programmi troppo pesanti. A proposito non è che inpostanto la persist poi lo swap lo fa nella flash, vero?
[21:34] <cristian_c> fede71, http://askubuntu.com/questions/544841/no-tablet-features-working-on-x61-tablet-with-ubuntu-gnome-14-10
[21:34] <fede71> mi converrebbe caricare una live vedere il modulo che carica il kernel e cercare se posso trovarlo e installarlo ???
[21:34] <cristian_c> fede71, stiamo parlando di boot
[21:34] <cristian_c> fede71, se vuoi installare il sistema, semplicemente installalo
[21:34] <cristian_c> su hard disk
[21:35] <cristian_c> fede71, la live non fa mai male
[21:35] <fede71> No intendevo per capire che modulo carica il kernel..
[21:35] <cristian_c> fede71, puoi utilizzare lo stesso supporto con il quale hai installato
[21:37] <cristian_c> fede71, scusa, prima mi riferivo al kernel
[21:37] <cristian_c> *a fennec
[21:37] <cristian_c> lol
[21:37] <cristian_c> (è l'ora tarda, scusate)
[21:38] <fede71> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11727374/
[21:38] <cristian_c> fennec, stiamo parlando di boot
[21:38] <cristian_c> fennec, se vuoi installare il sistema, semplicemente installalo
[21:38] <cristian_c> su hard disk
[21:39] <fede71> ok grazie .. questo è il mio xinput list
[21:39] <cristian_c> sì, l'ho visto anche prima
[21:39] <fede71> concludendo pensi sia a livello kernel
[21:40] <cristian_c> fede71, ho visto anche lsusb
[21:40] <cristian_c> fede71, attualmente, a parte il digitizer + penna, quali sono i problemi?
[21:41] <fennec> si cristian, lo faro', ma intanto mi va bene esterno, ma con un minimo di memoria, Intanto provo con 512 poi casomai aumento
[21:41] <nickpensato> buona sera a tutti
[21:41] <cristian_c> fede71, una domanda, hai aperto il link ad askubuntu che ho postato?
[21:42] <fede71> penso il ctrl sx e tutti i tasti in combinazione fn+
[21:42] <nickpensato> qualcuno potrebbe aiutarmi gentilmente?
[21:42] <cristian_c> fennec, quella che stai usando è la live, non è l'installazione del sistema su pendrive
[21:42] <fede71> si l'ho aperto
[21:42] <cristian_c> !qualcuno | nickpensato
[21:42] <ubot-it> nickpensato: la maggior parte delle prime domande fatte in questo canale è del tipo «qualcuno puo' aiutarmi/qualcuno ha tempo/qualcuno usa...?». Fate la vostra domanda tecnica e se qualcuno sa, rispondera'
[21:42] <cristian_c> fede71, hai letto anche il suggerimento in esso contenuto?
[21:42] <fede71> devo leggermi il workaround del tipo ..
[21:42] <cristian_c> fede71, allora, intanto per i tasti, il modo c'è
[21:42] <nickpensato> @ubot-it grazie
[21:43] <cristian_c> fede71, ora ti indicazioni più precise per il digitizer
[21:43] <nickpensato> non riesco a fere gli aggiornamenti, dice che non ho memoria
[21:43] <cristian_c> 'serial wacom devices gone after upgrade to utopic/14.10 '
[21:43] <nickpensato> devo svuotare cestino o file temporanei di istallazioni precedenti
[21:43] <cristian_c> fede71, io però farei una cosa migliore, per semplificarti la vita
[21:43] <Carlin0> nickpensato, che ubuntu usi ?
[21:44] <fennec> si, cristian
[21:44] <nickpensato> versione 14
[21:44] <cristian_c> fede71, siccome la 14.04 è una lts a lungo supporto, cioè sarà supportata fino al 2019
[21:44] <Carlin0> nickpensato, 14.04 ?
[21:44] <nickpensato> si scusami
[21:44] <cristian_c> fennec, prova con 512, ma è comunque una live e quindi la puoi ricreare
[21:45] <cristian_c> però dipende da quanto storage ha la pendrive
[21:45] <cristian_c> fede71, io ti suggerisco di provare la 14.04 in live
[21:45] <Carlin0> nickpensato, dai questo comando e metti il risultato in paste → dpkg -l | grep linux-image
[21:45] <Carlin0> !paste | nickpensato
[21:45] <ubot-it> nickpensato: http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[21:45] <fennec> ecco ha fatto, adesso provo a fare il boot da lì, a dopo (se non andate via!)
[21:46] <cristian_c> fede71, che dovrebbe avere wacom riconosciuto
[21:46] <cristian_c> xinput -list and xsetwacom --list don't show these devices and the Wacom Tablet section of the system setings reports 'no tablet detected' rather than showing the usual settings. Booting with the old linux 3.13 kernel makes no difference to the new version 3.16.
[21:46] <fede71> ok proverò grazie ora scappo che ho la bimba che frigna....
[21:46] <cristian_c> fede71, buona notte
[21:47] <cristian_c> se hai problemi, torna pure
[21:47] <fede71> grazie per tutto il supporto...
[21:47] <fede71> ok
[21:48] <nickpensato> scusa per il ritardo Carlin0, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11727410/
[21:49] <Carlin0> nickpensato, metti qui il risultato di uname -a
[21:49] <nickpensato> Carlin0, non ho capito
[21:49] <Carlin0> nickpensato, dai al terminale → uname -a
[21:50] <nickpensato> fatto, Linux ubu 3.16.0-39-generic #53~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Wed May 27 10:03:17 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[21:50] <Carlin0> ok ... un attimo
[21:51] <nickpensato> grazie
[21:52] <Carlin0> nickpensato, apri questo link http://sprunge.us/dEcc e copia incolla il contenuto nel terminale
[21:53] <Carlin0> tutto in un colpo solo eh
[21:53] <Carlin0> nickpensato, quando hai fatto dimmelo
[21:54] <nickpensato> Lettura elenco dei pacchetti... Fatto
[21:54] <nickpensato> Generazione albero delle dipendenze
[21:54] <nickpensato> Lettura informazioni sullo stato... Fatto
[21:54] <nickpensato> I seguenti pacchetti sono stati installati automaticamente e non sono più richiesti:
[21:54] <nickpensato> account-plugin-windows-live libupstart1 linux-headers-3.16.0-30
[21:54] <nickpensato> linux-headers-3.16.0-30-generic
[21:54] <nickpensato> Usare "apt-get autoremove" per rimuoverli.
[21:55] <Carlin0> nickpensato, dai sudo apt-get autoremove
[21:56] <nickpensato> eccomi
[21:56] <nickpensato> ero fuori dalla chat
[21:56] <Carlin0> non postare output qui
[21:56] <Carlin0> il bot ti butta fuori per flood
[21:56] <nickpensato> va bene
[21:56] <nickpensato> ho capito
[21:57] <nickpensato> mi chiede cosa voglio fare:
[21:57] <Carlin0> nickpensato, dai sudo apt-get autoremove
[21:57] <Carlin0> dai si o yes
[21:57] <nickpensato> va bene
[21:58] <nickpensato> scusami per la mia grande ignoranza
[21:58] <nickpensato> ma non se la prende in automatico memoria?
[21:58] <Carlin0> dopo nickpensato metti di nuovo in paste il risultato di questo comando → dpkg -l | grep linux-header
[21:59] <Carlin0> cosa vuol dire in automatico ?
[21:59] <Carlin0> !paste
[21:59] <ubot-it> http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[21:59] <nickpensato> accettando "Si" dice che libera 500 mb circa
[22:00] <Carlin0> dai si
[22:00] <nickpensato> anzi dovrebbe averlo gia fatto
[22:00] <nickpensato> si l'ho fatto, ora inserisco l'altro comando e posto
[22:00] <Carlin0> ok
[22:00] <nickpensato> posso postare qui direttamente?
[22:01] <Carlin0> no
[22:01] <Carlin0> !paste
[22:01] <ubot-it> http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[22:01] <nickpensato> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11727473/
[22:01] <nickpensato> fatto Carlin0
[22:02] <Carlin0> un attimo ...
[22:04] <Carlin0> nickpensato, questo nel terminale http://sprunge.us/FBVD
[22:04] <nickpensato> va bene
[22:04] <nickpensato> rimuovo?
[22:05] <Carlin0> certo
[22:05] <nickpensato> fatto
[22:05] <Carlin0> devi liberare spazio
[22:05] <Carlin0> ok ancora un paio di comandi
[22:05] <nickpensato> son qui!
[22:05] <Carlin0> sudo apt-get clean
[22:05] <nickpensato> grazie
[22:06] <nickpensato> non fa nulla
[22:06] <Carlin0> sudo dpkg --purge `dpkg -l | egrep "^rc" | cut -d ' ' -f3`
[22:06] <Carlin0> non vedi ma fa
[22:06] <nickpensato> va bene
[22:06] <Carlin0> fai copia incolla di questo
[22:07] <nickpensato> fatto
[22:08] <Carlin0> ok nickpensato ora dovresti riuscire a fare gli aggiornamenti
[22:08] <nickpensato> ti ringrazio per la disponibilità!
[22:08] <nickpensato> provo subito
[22:08] <nickpensato> grazie di nuovo
[22:08] <Carlin0> di nulla
[22:10] <nickpensato> Perfetto Carlin0, sta procedendo con gli aggiornamenti
[22:10] <Carlin0> bene :o)
[22:10] <nickpensato> un'ultima domanda e non ti scoccio più
[22:12] <nickpensato> grazie ancora Carlin0, buona serata
[23:10] <Innerina1> Una domanda... ma MSN non viene più supportato da Pidgin?
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2015-06-16-#ubuntu-es
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[00:47] <usrmaquina> hola
[01:00] <Cresus> o/ usrmaquina
[01:06] <xerox_> #list
[01:06] <xerox_> !list
[04:35] <terrateniente> hola
[04:35] <terrateniente> como estan?
[07:52] * merrick buenas
[09:45] <ricard> hay mucha diferencia en el funcionamiento del pc con ramm a 1400mhz en vez de 1600mhz??
[10:48] <Jordissi> hola, alguien sabe por que no me van los botones de funciones de brillo???
[13:11] <ivedci89> exit
[14:15] <ricard> se nota mucho en el pc de ir a 1400mhz de ram o a 1600mhz de ram??
[14:15] <ricard> digo si se nota mucho en el rendimiento del pc
[14:16] <ricard> la memoria es de 1600 mhz pero la placa solo detecta 1400mhz
[14:17] <ricard> se nota mucho el rendimiento del pc o no??
[14:18] <ricard> alguien que me responda porfavor
[14:20] <ricard> merrik:se nota mucho en el rendimiento del pc de tener 1400mhz de ram a tener 1600mhz de ram
[14:21] <ricard> la memoria que tengo es de 1600 pero la placa solo detecta 1400
[14:21] <ricard> merrik:tu que crees??
[14:25] <ricard> que pasa merrik con lo gentil que siempre eres
[14:33] <ricard> Merrick:que opinas se nota mucho en la computadora de 1400mhz de ram a 1600mhz de ram??
[14:34] <ricard> merrick:hola?
[14:35] <ricard> nadie es capaz de responderme?
[14:37] <GridCube> ricard: te respondimos eso un millon de veces
[14:37] <GridCube> NO NO SE NOTA
[14:38] <ricard> gracias gridCude entonces crees que no se nota no?
[14:39] <ricard> es que he conseguido subir de 1333 a 1400mhz
[14:40] <GridCube> no
[14:40] <ricard> actualizando la bios
[14:41] <ricard> como me dijiste que era para escribir el nombre de alguien con solo dos letras?
[14:46] <ricard> GridCude:no,de no se nota verdad?
[14:47] <ricard> perdon GridCube
[14:47] <GridCube> ricard: apretando tab
[14:47] <GridCube> ricard: no se nota, ya te lo dijimos mil veces
[14:47] <GridCube> no se nota
[14:49] <ricard> gridCube gracias de nuevo y perdona que sea tan pesado pero es que estoy machacando al de la tienda y si no me da una solucion me quedo mas tranquilo sabiendo que no afecta
[14:50] <ricard> que tengo que apretar tab y que mas?
[14:54] <GridCube> ?
[14:54] <GridCube> !tab
[14:54] <GridCube> es autocompletar ricard
[14:54] <GridCube> podes usarlo en todo el sistema
[14:54] <GridCube> pones las primeras letras y apretas tab
[14:54] <GridCube> e intenta completar
[14:54] <GridCube> es lo mas basico del munco
[14:55] <ricard> GridCube, ahora me a salido gracias
[14:55] <GridCube> mmhm
[14:56] <ricard> GridCube, bueno os dejo y gracias de nuevo por tu amabilidad,aunque ya se que aveces soy un poco plasta
[14:57] <ricard> hasta luego a todos/as
[18:32] <apinchimundo> Hola alguien sabe de algun buen programa para programar los archivos .class
[18:35] <mimecar> ¿quieres editar aplicaciones de Java compiladas?
[18:43] <chulis> en la version 15.04 no es posible hibernar?
[18:44] <chulis> no me da esa opcion solo apagar suspender
[18:46] <mimecar> ¿has creado una partición de swap?
[19:01] <successus> salud o/
[19:27] <chulis> claro tego swap
[19:27] <chulis> siempre la hetenidp
[19:28] <chulis> perdon que tardara en contestar pero no me habia dado cuenta
[19:30] <n-iCe> hola
[19:30] <mimecar> del mismo tamaño que la RAM chulis ?
[19:30] <n-iCe> Hellow
[19:31] <chulis> bufff ya no recuerdo lo hice en navidades
[19:31] <chulis> pero me suena que le puse bastante
[19:33] <mimecar> compruebalo
[19:41] <chulis> 7.5 gb de swap
[19:42] <chulis> 4 gb de ream
[19:44] <mimecar> debería funcionarte
[19:44] <mimecar> comprueba que la swap está activada
[19:50] <n-iCe> qué problema hay
[20:39] <chulis> que no me da la opcion de hibernar solo apagar o suspender
[20:40] <chulis> sudo pm-hibernate con esto si hiberna pero es una lata tener que haerlo asi
[21:44] <successus_> salud, hasta otro rato o/
[23:05] <david__> Hola gente, como andan hoy?.
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2015-06-16-#juju
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[03:46] <thomi> while doing 'juju bootstrap' on the local (lxc) env I get "ERROR there was an issue examining the environment: required environment variable not set for credentials attribute: User"
[03:46] <thomi> Any hints as to what that means?
[03:47] * thumper thinks
[03:48] <thumper> thomi: you aren't using lxc
[03:48] <thumper> or local
[03:48] <thomi> thumper: oh wait, I think yeah
[03:48] <thumper> that error comes from the openstack provider
[03:48] <thomi> thumper: sorry, thinko on my part
[03:48] <thumper> np
[03:48] <thomi> forgot I had the env var exported
[03:48] <thomi> thanks
[03:51] <lazyPower> thumper: good catch
[03:51] <thumper> o/ lazyPower
[03:51] <lazyPower> thumper: btw, i *will* get to your django MP's this week, soz its taken me so long to get to them
[03:51] <thumper> lazyPower: review poke
[03:51] <thumper> :_
[03:51] <thumper> heh
[03:51] <lazyPower> hah
[03:51] <lazyPower> already on your wavelength mate
[03:51] <thumper> lazyPower: once that one is in, I'll submit the celery one
[03:51] <lazyPower> I have something you're going to want to take for a spin i think.
[03:52] <thumper> I'm using it now
[03:52] <lazyPower> http://github.com/chuckbutler/dns-charm
[03:52] <lazyPower> i've been reviving this project from last year quite a bit
[03:52] <lazyPower> huge feature branch is going to land later this week that includes RT53 as a provider
[03:54] <thumper> lazyPower: interesting
[03:54] <lazyPower> I like to think so
[03:54] <lazyPower> I've got a long road ahead of me w/ the unit tests that are failing
[03:55] <lazyPower> i think i've failed to encapsulate my contrib code from charmhelpers somewhere, its failing on the cache file for config() in ci
[03:55] <lazyPower> but thats future chucks problem (by future i mean tomorrow)
[03:58] <thumper> :)
[03:59] <lazyPower> thumper: i'll hit your MP up first thing when i clock into the office tomorrow, that sound good? that gives you 3 days to refactor before I head out for SF if anything needs some touch ups
[03:59] <lazyPower> then i'll be out until Thurs of next week
[03:59] <thumper> lazyPower: sounds god.
[03:59] <thumper> lazyPower: should be fine though
[03:59] <lazyPower> aight, you're on the calendar
[03:59] * thumper crosses fingers
[03:59] <lazyPower> It more than likely is :)
[04:00] <lazyPower> i have faith in your ability to python
[04:00] <thumper> nice
[04:00] <thumper> lazyPower: I just remembered another fix that I should submit...
[04:00] <thumper> lazyPower: although this one is all docs
[04:01] <lazyPower> YOU WROTE DOCS?
[04:01] <thumper> no
[04:01] <lazyPower> oh
[04:01] <thumper> the readme was stomped over
[04:01] <thumper> between version 6 and 7 of the charm
[04:01] <lazyPower> dude dont get me excited like that
[04:01] <thumper> and they no longer reflect reality
[04:01] <thumper> however...
[04:01] <lazyPower> i dont think my heart could take it
[04:01] <thumper> I am going to write docs
[04:01] <thumper> around how to write a payload charm for it
[04:01] <thumper> because that truly sucked
[04:02] <thumper> messing around working that out
[04:02] <lazyPower> i wouldn't doubt it
[04:02] <lazyPower> payload charms are tricky to get write
[04:02] <lazyPower> *right
[04:02] <thumper> I did learn a lot though :)
[04:02] <thumper> would be good to capture that
[04:02] <thumper> in a way someone else can learn from it
[07:20] <jam> wallyworld: hey, I just saw your cursor on the resources spec, there was a change to "disk-path" I mentioned.
[07:22] <wallyworld> jam: i've been making lots of changes and also responding to rick's comments. i understand the default is needed but also think we need to not hard code it to allow deployers to say their resources go elsewhere, eg onto an ebs volume
[07:23] <wallyworld> we can hard code it if that's the plan, but i think it is a bit limiting? what if the resource won't fit on the root disk?
[07:27] <jam> wallyworld: can we fit those resources in gridfs?
[07:28] <wallyworld> jam: i had thought'd we'd use a separate mongo db so we can shard etc
[07:28] <wallyworld> but i guess it doesn't matter, we can just hard code
[07:28] <jam> wallyworld: so I'd like to leave it in the "do we want to add this" pile
[07:28] <jam> we can decide on it, but I'd rather start simple
[07:28] <wallyworld> ok
[07:29] <wallyworld> it's not that much to support, there' s much harder stuff first up :-)
[07:29] <wallyworld> also, isn't the default root disk size on aws 8GB?
[07:29] <jam> wallyworld: I certainly agree it isn't hard, but it is complexity that we may never actually need.
[07:29] <wallyworld> that's rather small
[07:29] <jam> wallyworld: it is, but so is the size of the MongoDB that's running the environment.
[07:30] <wallyworld> not if we use a separate db for resources
[07:30] <jam> wallyworld: where does that DB *live* ?
[07:30] <wallyworld> well, fair point
[07:31] <wallyworld> that would be a complication first up
[07:31] <jam> wallyworld: I guess if we let you tweak the Juju API server to put the Resource cache onto a different disk
[07:31] <wallyworld> something lke that. but as you say, we can start simple
[07:31] <jam> wallyworld: so I'm happy to have it as a separate logical Database (like we do for presence and logging)
[07:31] <wallyworld> yup
[07:32] <jam> wallyworld: and especially for the large multiple environments having a way to go in and do some sort of surgery to handle scale will be good
[07:32] <wallyworld> yeah, we always planned to use a separate logical db
[07:34] <wallyworld> jam: so i'm off to soccer soon, i think i've answered most of rick's questions but i need time away from the doc as it's starting to blur into a mess of works. i'll revisit later and tweak some more. need to add sample output etc. there's still some points needing clarification. hopefully it's getting close
[07:35] <jam> wallyworld: np, have a good night
[07:35] <wallyworld> ty, be back after soccer
[11:22] <Odd_Bloke> If someone could take a look at https://code.launchpad.net/~daniel-thewatkins/charms/trusty/ubuntu-repository-cache/update_charm-helpers/+merge/262072, it would be much appreciated.
[11:22] <Odd_Bloke> I failed to add some of the new charmhelpers files, so the ubuntu-repository-cache charm is broken.
[11:22] <Odd_Bloke> It's a very easy code review. :)
[12:59] <lukasa> lazyPower: ping =)
[13:50] <lazyPower> lukasa: pong
[13:50] <lazyPower> o/
[13:52] <lukasa> o/
[13:52] <lukasa> Wanted to get your eyes on this quickly: https://github.com/whitmo/etcd-charm/pull/10
[13:54] <lazyPower> so, as these etcd units are not raft peers they aren't part of the same cluster?
[13:54] <lazyPower> just independent etcd nodes on each docker host?
[13:54] <lukasa> lazyPower: Correct
[13:54] <beisner> hi coreycb, a merge/review for you re: ceilometer amulet test updates: https://code.launchpad.net/~1chb1n/charms/trusty/ceilometer/next-amulet-kilo/+merge/261850
[13:54] <lazyPower> well, s/docker/service/
[13:55] <lazyPower> ok
[13:55] <lukasa> lazyPower: Eh, you say tomato...
[13:56] <lazyPower> hehe, well the bug mentions calico openstack
[13:56] <lazyPower> but i bet this is for both
[13:56] <lukasa> =P Certainly on OpenStack we deploy etcd proxies everywhere for scale reasons more than anything else
[13:56] <coreycb> beisner, ok I'll look later today probably
[13:56] <lukasa> But also for homogeneity
[13:56] <lukasa> (Fun word, glad I got to use it)
[13:56] <lazyPower> ok, i'm good with this. would be excelent to see tests here too but i wont block on that
[13:56] <lukasa> Well, do you want to hold off a sec?
[13:56] <beisner> coreycb, ack thanks
[13:56] <lazyPower> sure
[13:56] <lukasa> I'm writing the Calico side of things, and I can quickly sanity check by actually running the damn thing
[13:56] <lukasa> =D
[13:56] <lazyPower> i'm +1 for that
[13:57] <lazyPower> while i'ev got your attention
[13:57] <lukasa> Awesome, so that'll get done today or tomorrow
[13:57] <lazyPower> is the docker merge still blocked on CLA?
[13:57] <lukasa> AFAIK, yes, but I'll double check
[13:57] <lazyPower> ok let me reach out to my contact and poke them again
[13:59] <lukasa> lazyPower: Fab, I'm checking on my end as well
[14:09] <lukasa> lazyPower: Yup, as far as we know we're still waiting on the CLA stuff
[14:10] <lazyPower> i unfortunately had presumed as much, i just poked my contact again. i think they're dragging feet on a confirmation from management to sign it.
[14:10] <lazyPower> i'll run the ropes on this and see if i cant get it expedited
[14:10] <lazyPower> when you get some free time i'd like to work through whats there with you, i still haven't gotten a good test from it yet, but thats more than likely pebkac
[14:14] <lukasa> Hopefully I'll be sitting on a little bit of time this week, assuming this etcd charm change goes off without a hitch
[14:20] <lazyPower> right on
[14:21] <lazyPower> I'm the lone ranger left on my team prepping for dockercon, so our roles have been reversed this week
[14:21] <lazyPower> but after the conf i should have some time
[14:24] <lukasa> =D Nice
[14:24] <lukasa> Our docker folks are all heads down atm, so I'm manning the fort on the charms side
[14:54] <lukasa> lazyPower: Still about?
[14:55] <lazyPower> surely
[14:55] <lazyPower> whats up
[14:59] <lukasa> The install hook of the etcd charm assumes that easy_install will be present
[14:59] <lukasa> But it's not present on an Ubuntu cloud image as far as I know...
[14:59] <lukasa> So installing the charm explodes =P
[14:59] <lazyPower> easy_install is shipped in cloud images on CPP clouds
[14:59] <lazyPower> where are you running these tests?
[14:59] <lukasa> On a MAAS box
[14:59] <lazyPower> hmm
[15:00] <lazyPower> thats bizarre, ok.
[15:00] <lukasa> Well, it's not necessarily the most up to date MAAS in the world
[15:00] <lazyPower> i guess we can throw down a quick block fo code to install easy_install.
[15:00] <lukasa> It's easy enough to fix, just need to manually intervene
[15:00] <lukasa> Well, you could
[15:00] <lazyPower> but easy_install has been present on everything i've tested on
[15:00] <lukasa> Or you could just skip the middle-man and use get-pip.py directly to install pip ;)
[15:01] <lukasa> Which has the advantage of doing it over a secure connection, unlike easy_install
[15:01] <lazyPower> ah, i'm not a fan of doing the wget | bash method
[15:01] <lukasa> Oh sure, I mean literally bundle get-pip.py
[15:01] <lukasa> Just a single file =)
[15:01] <lazyPower> this all stems from our pip package in archive being busted
[15:01] <lazyPower> install requests and the world blows up
[15:01] <lazyPower> stupid python dependencies :|
[15:01] * lazyPower rages silently against a problem thats been cropping up more and more
[15:01] <lukasa> =P This is where I put my hand up as a requests core developer
[15:02] <lukasa> So this is a little bit my fault
[15:02] * lazyPower instantly un-rages and apologizes
[15:02] <lukasa> =D
[15:02] <lukasa> It's totally ok
[15:02] <lukasa> The situation is a mess
[15:02] <lazyPower> it really is
[15:02] <lukasa> But HP are paying dstufft full-time to fix it
[15:02] <lazyPower> system dependencies not being in a venv make this tricky
[15:02] <lukasa> Yup
[15:02] <lukasa> Presumably the charm could have a virtualenv, though...?
[15:03] <lazyPower> thats tricky. we have venv being prepped in our docker charm - but we haven't really leveraged it
[15:03] <lazyPower> i'm not sure what issues we will crop up with going that route - but i'm game for trying it out
[15:03] <lazyPower> thats a hefty feature branch however, as it effects the entirety of the charm
[15:03] <lukasa> Yeah, I wouldn't do it now
[15:03] <lazyPower> lets file a bug and explore that at a later date
[15:03] <lukasa> For now I can just do a juju add-machine and hop on and install easy_install
[15:04] <lukasa> Then deploy the charm to it directly
[15:04] <lazyPower> ok, sorry about the inconvenience, but good to know if we have a substrate thats not shipping with batteries
[15:04] <lukasa> =P It's a pretty minor inconvenience
[15:04] <lukasa> I think I also have a too-old Juju, so I'm updating that as well while I'm here
[15:04] <lazyPower> but *handsigns* magic
[15:04] <lazyPower> be aware that 1.23.x has an issue whend estrying the env it pulls the socket out from underneath you
[15:05] <lazyPower> *destroying
[15:05] <lukasa> What's the net effect of that?
[15:05] <lazyPower> things like bundletester have random bouts of errors when running multiple test cases
[15:05] <lazyPower> client connections are terminated and you get a stacktrace while destrying an env, but the env *does* get destroyed.
[15:06] <lazyPower> http://juju-ci.vapour.ws:8080/job/charm-bundle-test-aws/173/console
[15:06] <lazyPower> is a good example of the output you'll see
[15:06] <lazyPower> the "reset" bits that loop for ~ 30 lines
[15:06] <lukasa> Eh, I'm not scared of stacktraces
[15:07] <lukasa> Oh, btw, we're dropping a new 'feature' that should make docker demos a bit nicer, which we may want to incorporate into the charm
[15:07] <lazyPower> oh?
[15:07] <lukasa> But basically, on cloud environments we can set up ip-in-ip tunnels between hosts and run the Calico traffic through them
[15:07] <lukasa> This means you don't need a cloud that gives you a proper fabric
[15:07] <lazyPower> nice :)
[15:07] <lazyPower> when is that expected to land?
[15:08] <lazyPower> i have a work item this week to get SDN in our bundle we're using @ the conf
[15:08] <lukasa> It's already in the latest release of Calico, I think the next calico-docker release will contain it
[15:08] <lukasa> Which I'd expect...today, I think?
[15:08] <lazyPower> oh nice
[15:08] <lazyPower> i'll def. tail the repo and when it lands give it a go
[15:08] <lukasa> We don't plan to call that a productised feature because customers won't deploy Calico in that kind of fabric
[15:08] <lazyPower> right
[15:08] <lukasa> But it's useful for demos and trying it out on clouds
[15:08] <lazyPower> +1 to that
[15:09] <lukasa> Also, setting up those tunnels involves typing a series of *super* cryptic 'ip' commands into Linux, so charms are perfect for it. ;)
[15:10] <lazyPower> juju power activate!
[15:10] <lazyPower> calco will form the network
[15:17] <MrOJ> Hello to everybody. Is this the place where I can share my troubles with Juju? =)
[15:22] <gnuoy> jamespage, odl-controller mp https://code.launchpad.net/~sdn-charmers/charms/trusty/odl-controller/odl-cmds/+merge/262095 (no great rush)
[15:23] <MrOJ> Most of all I have question about juju agents. Is there a way to restore or regenerate agents apipasswords?
[15:25] <lazyPower> MrOJ: agent configurations are all listed /var/lib/juju
[15:25] <lazyPower> let me get a direct path for you 1 m
[15:26] <lazyPower> MrOJ: so assuming your charm name is 'test'
[15:26] <lazyPower> teh agent config path is /var/lib/juju/agents/unit-test-#/agent.conf
[15:27] <lazyPower> the .conf file is a yaml formatted key/value store of all the data required to communicate w/ the state server. You can update all the values in there if required, including repointing to a new state server, updating the api password, etc.
[15:28] <MrOJ> Yes I know that. It' a long story but right now I don't have that directory in my system
[15:29] <MrOJ> Sorry my english. I'm from Finland and its not my main language
[15:29] <lazyPower> no worries MrOJ
[15:31] <MrOJ> I think that somehow Bug #1464304 might have made this situation
[15:31] <mup> Bug #1464304: Sending a SIGABRT to jujud process causes jujud to uninstall (wiping /var/lib/juju) <cts> <sts> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1464304>
[15:33] <lazyPower> yikes!
[15:37] <MrOJ> I've managed to manually restore agents.conf and all other files in /var/lib/juju and jujud start scripts in /etc/init.
[15:39] <MrOJ> But if I start jujud-machine-xx it removes /var/lib/juju again in that node.
[15:44] <MrOJ> In /var/log/juju/machine-xx.log is mention about "invalid entity name or password" and after that "fatal "api": agent should be terminated "
[15:45] <lazyPower> natefinch: ping
[15:45] <natefinch> lazyPower: sup
[15:45] <lazyPower> have you seen behavior like this? is this due to a stale status left over in the state server terminating the restoration of the unit agent? i'm a bi tout of my depth here
[15:45] <lazyPower> MrOJ: ran into a pretty hefty bug that's terminating a unit out from underneath him
[15:46] <natefinch> lazyPower: reading history
[15:49] <natefinch> MrOJ, lazyPower: ouch, that's a gnarly one.
[15:49] <MrOJ> Version is 1.23.3
[15:50] <natefinch> MrOJ: what provider are you using? (like, amazon, maas, openstack, etc)?
[15:50] <MrOJ> It's maas
[15:51] <natefinch> MrOJ: Do you need to keep that machine running. or can you just destroy it and recreate it?
[15:52] <MrOJ> I need to have it running because it's in production.
[15:53] <MrOJ> I have small Openstack cloud running in our company and machine is part of it.
[15:54] <MrOJ> Openstack deployment itself is ok
[15:57] <natefinch> MrOJ: tricky. I'm talking to some of the other devs to see if we have a way to get that machine back in working order.
[15:58] <MrOJ> I've learned basics about mongodb and have recovered most of data straight from there but I can't figure out how I can restore apipassword
[15:58] <MrOJ> natefinch: Thank you
[16:14] <natefinch> MrOJ: Still doing some tests to try to figure out the best way to get you recovered.
[16:16] <MrOJ> natefinch: Thanks again!
[16:32] <perrito666> hey MrOJ :)
[16:32] <perrito666> let me recap here, the files in /var/lib/juju where lost and you rebuilt it right?
[16:33] <perrito666> and all seems ok excepting for the api password
[16:33] <natefinch> MrOJ: I have to run for a bit, so I'm handing you off to the very capable perrito666.
[16:35] <MrOJ> perrito666: Yes that's right. I forgot to mention statepassword too..
[16:43] <perrito666> MrOJ: currently the status for said service says something?
[16:46] <MrOJ> perrito666: juju status says "agent-state: down"
[16:46] <perrito666> is it the only unit for that service?
[16:47] <MrOJ> perrito666: no but they all says the same
[16:48] <perrito666> oh, so you have multiple machines/containers in that shape?
[16:48] <MrOJ> yes that is the situation..
[16:48] <perrito666> ah, sorry, I had missed that part
[16:49] <MrOJ> it's ok..
[16:50] <MrOJ> Actually all my machines are in that situation..
[16:50] <MrOJ> Except state servers
[16:55] <MrOJ> I had to restore HA state servers and same time I had dns problem in MAAS.. I didn't know that then. Because of this I bumped to bug I mentioned earlier
[16:57] <MrOJ> At least, I think this is what happened..
[16:58] <perrito666> MrOJ: I am thinking, I am sure we can rescue this, but I am thinking which is the best way, either to nuke all the password for one that we can use or something like that
[16:58] <perrito666> brb, lunch.
[17:02] <MrOJ> perrito666: I can restore each unit one by one.. We have only about 50 units so it's not so big job..
[17:03] <MrOJ> perrito666: Ok. Take your time and have a great lunch =)
[17:06] <cholcombe> can i setup a new deployment in each test_case for amulet? Is that advisable ?
[17:11] <lazyPower> cholcombe: Typically when the entire toplogy is undergoing a rapid change it warrants a new test file as the deployment map is defined in __init__()
[17:11] <lazyPower> but i'm open to seeing a different pattern emerge :)
[17:12] <cholcombe> ok interesting
[17:13] <lazyPower> cholcombe: if you're only adding a unit to the topology, it should be fine to just self.deploy.add_unit() or add a new service. start w/ bare bones and iterate through the test file
[17:13] <lazyPower> it'll cut down the overall test-run time which is a good thing, right now the integration tests are very slow
[17:13] <lazyPower> so its kind of dependent on what you're doing
[17:13] <cholcombe> well the issue is gluster has like 10 different volume types and i want to test each one
[17:14] <lazyPower> is this something that needs to be defined at deploy time?
[17:14] <lazyPower> or can you reconfigure the charm w/ the different volume type
[17:14] <cholcombe> i've been setting the volume type in the charm config and then running deploy
[17:14] <lazyPower> meaning once its stood up and running, is it possible to reconfigure the charm for that volume type
[17:14] <lazyPower> or do you *have* to redeploy to gain that volume type
[17:15] <lazyPower> i'm thinking this is like ceph, that your volumes are defined at deploy, and as its storage you're locked into that volume type for the duration
[17:15] <cholcombe> pretty much yeah
[17:15] <perrito666> MrOJ: oh, didnt catch that and had a medium to bad lunch :p
[17:15] <cholcombe> you set it before you run it and you're locked in
[17:16] <lazyPower> Yeah, you'lll need to do a different permutation of the charm then, which would warrant a new test - as afaik there's no way to destroy a service in amulet to date
[17:16] <MrOJ> perrito666: I know the feeling =)
[17:42] <skay> thanks for python-django work
[17:42] <skay> I haven't been able to look at it in a while, but definately appreciate the work in the meanwhile
[17:43] <skay> delurking to give props
[17:47] <beisner> cholcombe, lazyPower - you might be interested in related in-flight work on the ceph amulet tests...
[17:47] <cholcombe> oh?
[17:47] <beisner> the pivot point is different (ubuntu:openstack release) with the same topology
[17:48] <beisner> WIPs @ https://code.launchpad.net/~1chb1n/charms/trusty/ceph/next-amulet-update/+merge/262016
[17:48] <beisner> & https://code.launchpad.net/~1chb1n/charm-helpers/amulet-ceph-cinder-updates
[17:48] <beisner> so that exercises the same ceph topology against precise-icehouse through vivid-kilo
[17:48] * cholcombe checking
[17:49] <cholcombe> yeah that's similar to what i need to do
[17:49] <beisner> actively working to update and enable kilo and predictive liberty prep
[17:49] <beisner> ^ on all os-charms that is.
[17:49] <lazyPower> beisner: wow thats a huge diff
[17:50] <lazyPower> the tl;dr is you get bundle permutations mid-flight with this?
[17:50] <cholcombe> yeah really
[17:50] <beisner> yeah, some refactoring for shared usage by cinder and glance when i get there
[17:50] <lazyPower> hmm
[17:50] <lazyPower> you should blog about this :)
[17:50] <lazyPower> so i can read the blog intead of the diff
[17:50] <lazyPower> <3
[17:50] <lazyPower> *instead
[17:50] <cholcombe> lol
[17:52] <beisner> ha!
[17:54] <beisner> how about a pastebin of the test output? ;-) trusty-icehouse: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11726195/
[17:55] <beisner> oh i guess that paste includes precise-icehouse too. just got the kilo stuff working, but no osci results yet.
[17:57] <lazyPower> beisner: it has no pictures
[17:57] <lazyPower> i need pictures, and a story to go with it
[17:57] <beisner> i know i know, needs shine ;-)
[17:57] <lazyPower> :D
[17:57] <lazyPower> so, i'll put you down as writing a blog post next week on this? excellent
[17:57] <lazyPower> jcastro: ^
[17:57] <lazyPower> you saw it here first, beisner agreed to blog about his awesome osci permutations code
[17:57] <beisner> actually, that is on my list o things to do, lazyPower
[17:58] <lazyPower> I'm being deliberately obtuse to rally support for your cause
[17:58] <lazyPower> in the form of giving you work items
[17:58] <lazyPower> that are totally awesome, and i can tweet about
[17:59] <lazyPower> where do you blog currently beisner?
[17:59] <lazyPower> i'd like to add you to my feed
[18:01] <beisner> lazyPower, http://www.beisner.com - it's been mostly idle though as i've been mostly throttled
[18:02] <lazyPower> ack, thanks for the link
[18:22] <jcastro> hey jose
[18:22] <jose> ohai
[18:22] <jcastro> hey so office hours in 2 days iirc?
[18:22] <jose> jcastro: yes, want me to host? if so, can we move it up by 2h?
[18:22] <jcastro> I would like to confirm the time so marcoceppi doesn't make fun of me
[18:23] <jcastro> I can host, can you resend me the creds just in case though?
[18:23] <natefinch> MrOJ: looks like we're handing you back to me. Do you have log files you could share? all-machines.log on one of the state servers might contain some useful information for figuring out what went wrong.
[18:24] <jose> jcastro: sure, will do right now, along with some instructions
[18:24] <jcastro> excellent
[18:25] <jcastro> my calendar has it for 8pm UTC, is that what you have?
[18:43] <jose> jcastro: sorry, was having lunch. I do have it at 20 UTC. looks like we're good
[19:49] <natefinch> MrOJ, ericsnow: we should talk here. MrOJ, ericsnow is one of the developers that worked on the backup code (along with perrito666).
[19:50] <ericsnow> natefinch, MrOJ: note that I'm not nearly as familiar with the restore side of things, but I'll help as much as I can
[19:51] <natefinch> MrOJ: do you have a machine log from one of the machines that killed its state server?
[19:59] <MrOJ> natefinch, ericsnow: I think I have. just a moment
[20:00] <perrito666> I am back
[20:16] <MrOJ> natefinch: Yes I have log, but filesezi is almost 20M
[20:21] <natefinch> MrOJ: how big is it if you compress it? It should compress a *lot*
[20:27] <MrOJ> natefinch: I'll check
[20:36] <MrOJ> natefinch: Ok.. Now I have log from machine-0 and machine-2.
[20:37] <MrOJ> natefinch: those files are about 1M compressed
[20:40] <MrOJ> natefinch: Can I email those to you or somebody else?
[20:45] <natefinch> MrOJ: email to [email protected] please and thank you
[20:49] <MrOJ> natefinch: ok.. I'll send those from my work email -> [email protected]
[20:53] <thumper> lazyPower: cheers for the python-django review
[20:54] <natefinch> MrOJ: btw, you said you were doing a restore while having DNS issues... why were you doing the restore in the first place?
[20:56] <lazyPower> thumper: happy to help :)
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[08:36] <iskandiar> hey
[08:36] <iskandiar> bye
[08:57] <Reptilia> How do i make Xubuntu remember my brightness level setup for the next boot? On every new boot i have to re-adjust the brightness to the desired level, and the OS won't remember my choice. Also, i can't find a GUI for changing the brightness on Xubuntu. Any ideas? Thanks in advance.
[09:08] <Luyin> Reptilia for a GUI install xfce4-power-manager
[09:09] <Luyin> then add brightness plugin to your panel
[09:10] <Reptilia> Luyin:Thanks. Will that solve the problem with the brightness level?
[09:11] <Luyin> Reptilia I don't think so, no
[09:12] <Semiarty> Reptilia https://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?id=9091&p=2 post #40
[09:13] <Semiarty> 39 and 40*
[09:14] <Reptilia> Luyin:I can't find a brightness plugin as an option
[09:14] <Luyin> Reptilia did you install the package I was referring to?
[09:15] <Reptilia> Luyin:Yup, and the terminal printed that "xfce4-power-manager" was in the latest version
[09:18] <Reptilia> Semiarty:Thanks, but...i want to make it work in the "regular way". If i don't find a regular way, i will try that for sure :)
[09:18] <Luyin> Reptilia I've only got the german interface, so don't know what the correct name is, but it might be something like "power management"
[09:22] <Reptilia> Luyin:Yup, i already have that plugin on my panel, but there it only shows the battery percentage, no brightness options.
[09:24] <Luyin> Reptilia you ought to be able to scroll the mouse scroll wheel on the panel symbol to increase/decrease display brightness, and you should be able to click on the symbol to see brightness options
[09:25] <Reptilia> Luyin:Nope, there is no such thing
[09:27] <Luyin> Reptilia http://docs.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-power-manager/panel-plugin
[09:33] <Reptilia> Luyin:Yup i know, it used to be fine on previous versions, i have recently noticed that the brightness slider is gone.
[09:34] <Reptilia> Luyin:I have been setting it manually on every boot, but got tired of doing that all the time
[09:37] <Luyin> what happened before you noticed the slider was gone? did you do a full system upgrade, installed/removed any packages?
[09:40] <Reptilia> Luyin:Full sys update no, but i've done several updates
[09:41] <Luyin> Reptilia try doing a full upgrade (sudo apt upadte && sudo apt dist-upgrade), reboot, and try again. if that doesn't work, you might want to file a bug report. I have no idea what else could cause this. someone else might have a better idea, though
[09:42] <Reptilia> Luyin:Actually there wasn't a brightness slider since i've installed the OS, but the OS used to remember my brightness level setup, so i didn't have to set it again on every boot. I think an update ~ 10 days ago changed this.
[09:49] <Luyin> Reptilia which ubuntu version have you got installed?
[09:50] <Reptilia> 14.04
[09:50] <Reptilia> I've done the update, as you suggested
[09:51] <Reptilia> rebooting
[09:53] <Reptilia> Luyin:Nah, still the same
[09:54] <Luyin> Reptilia I'm just checking whether the slider ought to be at a different place in XFCE 4.10, since I'm on 4.12 here via ppa. wait a sec
[09:54] <Reptilia> Luyin:Sure
[09:55] <Meerkat> From my experience 14.04 has never saved my brightness setting between boots.
[09:56] <Luyin> Reptilia seems like also in 4.10 the xfce4-power-manager is responsible for the brightness plugin. so there should be a brightness plugin somewhere in your panel items
[09:56] <Luyin> if it isn't, I have no idea why yours isn't showing
[10:00] <Reptilia> Well, i will do a 15.04 update then
[10:00] <Reptilia> Since Meerkat also said that he has encountered the same problem
[10:01] <Reptilia> on 14.04
[10:09] <Meerkat> it's more that I haven't encountered a working 14.04 version yet
[10:21] <Reptilia> Meerkat:Haha :D
[10:25] <Luyin> I've changed my cursor theme to dmz black. but on some elements, like the window panes, in hexchat, and on the xfdesktop, I still get the white dmz cursor. how can I fix that?
[11:29] <Reptilia> I've updated to 14.10 and again, there is no brightness slider.
[11:30] <ochosi> Reptilia: i'm not sure what version of xfce4-power-manager we shipped in 14.10, but the one in 15.04 has a brightness slider
[11:30] <ochosi> the panel plugin you're looking for is called "Power Manager Plugin"
[11:31] <Reptilia> ochosi:Yup, that's the one without the brightness slider. Thanks
[11:31] <Reptilia> ochosi:Cool theme colors in 14.10 btw (the default purple :))
[11:31] <ochosi> thanks :)
[11:31] <Reptilia> purple/rose
[11:31] <ochosi> 14.10 was already so long ago i practically forgot about it already ;)
[11:32] <Reptilia> ochosi:Also, i've noticed that the app execution time is lowered
[11:32] <ochosi> we didn't do anything about that though. at least not specifically
[11:32] <Reptilia> Yeah, but it's noticeable, don't know what could be the cause
[11:33] <Reptilia> Like, it's more instant :D
[11:33] <Reptilia> ochosi:K, i will update to 15.04 then
[11:35] <Meerkat> can we get that slider backported to 14.04?
[11:40] <ochosi> Meerkat: you can do that at your own risk by using some of our PPAs, but we won't do that
[11:40] <ochosi> 14.04 is about stability, and there's some risk things will go awry with xfpm and light-locker
[11:43] <Meerkat> I understand. Has any work for 16.04 begun? Even at a planning stage?
[11:44] <cfhowlett> Meerkat, WIP
[11:46] <Reptiliah> ochosi:What about the #1395720 bug? Have you resolved the issue?
[11:46] <Reptiliah> ochosi:This is the first time i am reading release notes, lol
[11:46] <ochosi> Meerkat: 15.10 is the next release
[11:49] <brainwash> bug 1395720
[11:50] <ochosi> that's not even a bug imo
[11:57] <Reptiliah> ochosi:You're right. A Live session, lol. Forgot what a live session was
[11:57] <Meerkat> what is catfish used for?
[11:58] <bazhang> !info catfish
[12:33] <Reptilia> ochosi:Nope, the brightness slider is missing again, after the 15.04 update. xfce4-power-manager says it's in the latest version
[12:34] <ochosi> Reptilia: then it's possible your display brightness control isn't supported, sry
[12:38] <Reptilia> ochosi:hmm
[13:14] <Reptilia> Is it safe to remove xfce4-power-manager, and install it again?
[13:37] <Reptilia> Is it safe to remove xfce4-power-manager, and install it again?
[13:41] <Reptilia> Xubuntu 15.04 will show the brightness slider while i am in a Guest Session. The whole look of the window that opens when i click on the battery icon, is different from the one on my usr account.
[14:15] <Reptilia> Xubuntu 15.04 will show the brightness slider while i am in a Guest Session. The whole look of the window that opens when i click on the battery icon, is different from the one on my usr account.
[15:16] <Reptilia> Xubuntu 15.04 will show the brightness slider while i am in a Guest Session. The whole look of the window that opens when i click on the battery icon, is different from the one on my usr account.
[15:18] <GridCube> Reptilia: if you upgraded your system you might be carrying old desktop theme configs, you can delete those and relogin, you will get the exact same desktop than guest
[15:18] <GridCube> its just common sense not to overwrite them, usually people changes the desktop theme to their liking, like adding more launchers and what not
[15:18] <GridCube> i personally like to use my panels in vertical mode P:
[15:37] <Reptilia> GridCube:All right then, how do i delete the old desktop theme configuration?
[15:40] <GridCube> Reptilia: rename or delete ~/.config/xfce4/panel
[15:40] <GridCube> and relog
[15:42] <GridCube> in fact if you just delete the whole ~/.config/xfce4 you will get the desktop reseted as if its the first boot :)
[15:43] <Reptilia> GridCube:What is the usage of "~"?
[15:46] <GridCube> ~ means /home/yourusername/
[15:46] <Reptilia> thanks
[15:47] <GridCube> or whatever is your home, if you are root in other OSs it could also mean /root/, its basically the home folder for the current user
[15:47] <GridCube> its like . and .., which means "in this directory" and "in they up directory to this one" thats why you cd .. :D
[15:48] <GridCube> thats also why you execute scripts by ./script.sh, becase the . means "excute this file in this directory" P:
[15:51] <GridCube> Reptilia: notice how if you open a terminal it will say something like, rept@tilia:~$ as your prompt :)
[15:51] <GridCube> but if you cd anywhere else the ~ changes to the current directory name :D
[15:52] <Reptilia> GridCube:Damn, i didn't know that's the reason for the ./ thing :D
[15:52] <GridCube> :D
[15:52] <Reptilia> GridCube:I have been using that while i was the C course at my uni
[15:53] <GridCube> :)
[15:53] <Reptilia> while i was learning*
[15:53] <Reptilia> thanks
[15:53] <GridCube> its simple things like this that i find awesome of the linuxverse, almost everything has a why
[15:54] <Reptilia> GridCube:Yeah, i found Linux interesting because of that, too
[15:54] <GridCube> and now you can understand this joke: ~ sweet ~
[15:54] <GridCube> :D
[15:54] <Reptilia> haha
[15:54] <Reptilia> :D
[15:56] <Reptilia> GridCube:So, if i reset everything, where are the files that are not @ the Desktop, will be moved to?
[15:56] <GridCube> Reptilia: in theory you can use stuff like that when programming, you say you give your program a config file, but you dont know how the username will be, so you need to get the config file from somewhere, you program your program to get the configfile from ~/.config/myprogram, and so you dont bother to learn the username
[15:56] <Reptilia> damn, what a bad formulated question.
[15:57] <GridCube> Reptilia: your files are not touched
[15:57] <GridCube> the ones that are missing respawn
[15:57] <Reptilia> respawn hahahaha
[15:57] <GridCube> but the rest remains exactly the same, you are the one deleting or renaming
[15:58] <Reptilia> kk
[15:58] <Reptilia> thanks
[15:59] <Reptilia> GridCube:Rebooting, brb
[15:59] <GridCube> no need to reboot...
[15:59] <GridCube> too late XD
[16:01] <Reptilia> GridCube:Nothing is reseted
[16:01] <GridCube> o:
[16:01] <Reptilia> I have deleted the whole xfce4 folder
[16:02] <GridCube> btw you dont need to do a full reboot, just login off and on again should do the trick
[16:02] <Reptilia> kk
[16:02] <GridCube> how weird
[16:02] <Reptilia> any ideas? :)
[16:02] <GridCube> are your panels and your desktop background the same as before the change?
[16:03] <TheRotundGollumB> test
[16:03] <Reptilia> GridCube:Yes
[16:03] <GridCube> test failed
[16:03] <TheRotundGollumB> it did not
[16:03] <GridCube> Reptilia: mmm
[16:03] <GridCube> yes it did
[16:03] <Reptilia> When you wrote "test", the separator line moved
[16:03] <TheRotundGollumB> bugger. back to the drawing slate
[16:04] <TheRotundGollumB> i will whip the gnome responsible
[16:04] <GridCube> Reptilia: thats cos' his nic is pretty long
[16:04] <Reptilia> Oh, the client got accustomed to his long nickname
[16:04] <Reptilia> hahahaha
[16:04] <GridCube> Reptilia: i think you need to delete the files while not running them
[16:05] <GridCube> like from guest
[16:05] <Reptilia> GridCube:All right, i will do that
[16:05] <GridCube> or log off go to a terminal alt-f1 and login and mv ~/.config/xfce4 ~/.config/xfce4old
[16:05] <GridCube> ah
[16:06] <ShortGollum> i have corruption when my xubuntu screensaver is interrupted. I will pay one potato if someone solves it
[16:06] <Reptilia> GridCube:Hmm, i've noticed this now
[16:06] <ShortGollum> i also have no keyboard lights. two potatoes for that one
[16:07] <GridCube> Reptilia: or log off go to a terminal alt-f1 and login and mv ~/.config/xfce4 ~/.config/xfce4old
[16:07] <Reptilia> GridCube:In GuestSession, i have 2 battery icons. One is dark grey, and is the same as here on my usr account, and one is white and has the brightness slider feature.
[16:07] <GridCube> ShortGollum: sorry i know nothing about those sort of things
[16:08] <ShortGollum> its ok me either. i'm a bsd guy through and through
[16:08] <GridCube> Reptilia: mmm, try adding the complement of the energy administrator
[16:09] <ShortGollum> i think its just an ordinary laptop with manufacturers that haven't yet gone beyond binary blobs
[16:10] <Reptilia> GridCube:Hmm, where do i find that?
[16:10] <TRGB> this sounds like nonsense, abort rept
[16:11] <GridCube> right clic on the panel > panel > add new element
[16:11] <TRGB> don't stare him in the eyes
[16:12] <TRGB> he'll be able to control you
[16:12] <TRGB> why is my nick not changing?
[16:12] <GridCube> TRGB: theres an issue with light locker and screensavers, its recommended to use one or the other
[16:12] <GridCube> i dunno
[16:12] <TRGB> oh ok
[16:13] <TRGB> is it sufficient ot apt=remove light-locker or simeimalr?
[16:13] <TRGB> similar*
[16:14] <GridCube> i guess so, you are under your own responsability if you do based on the passing opinion of one dude on an irc channel
[16:14] <TRGB> well i can't recall installing it, and there's no harm in removing it
[16:14] <TRGB> i don't mind hosing this laptop
[16:14] <TRGB> tempted to try pc-fbsd
[16:15] <Reptilia> TRGB:Dude, i was just checking if i got him right. No need for arrogance.
[16:15] <TRGB> hmm?
[16:15] <TRGB> didn't mean to be arrogant
[16:15] <TRGB> sry
[16:15] <GridCube> TRGB: its the default locking software for most 'buntus
[16:15] <TRGB> had a few beers
[16:15] <TRGB> i come across that way at times without meaning it
[16:15] <GridCube> dont fuzz on it
[16:16] <TRGB> i'm not
[16:16] <GridCube> :D
[16:16] <TRGB> keyboard lights is my next crusade
[16:16] <TRGB> don't have em
[16:17] <TRGB> but i have c/c++ and would like to work out how i'd get the kernel to recognize this asus f550ze
[16:17] <Reptilia> GridCube:Finally
[16:17] <Reptilia> GridCube:Thanks
[16:17] <GridCube> Reptilia: :D
[16:17] <GridCube> what did the trick?
[16:17] <GridCube> TRGB: i read about that a few months ago
[16:17] <Reptilia> Adding the complement
[16:17] <GridCube> about the lights things
[16:18] <GridCube> so theres hope
[16:18] <Reptilia> Yes, it turns out that there are 2 different types of indicators
[16:18] <GridCube> Reptilia:great
[16:18] <TRGB> yeah i've seen snippets
[16:18] <Reptilia> Which open the same power manager settings
[16:18] <TRGB> but i'd be keen to delve myself
[16:18] <GridCube> Reptilia: sounds about right
[16:19] <Reptilia> GridCube:Why there are 2 - i don't know. But it works now, haha
[16:19] <TRGB> or better yet, a document on where to start with interfacing with that sort of thing
[16:19] <TRGB> but in the absence of that, i will ha ve a beer
[16:19] <TRGB> and a cig
[16:20] <TRGB> and curse you peasants for being a text interface
[16:20] <TRGB> *curse*
[16:20] <Reptilia> TRGB:What kind of beer have you been drinking?
[16:20] <TRGB> crown lager, its ok
[16:20] <TRGB> its apparently made from australian malt
[16:20] <TRGB> as opposed to ethiopian malt
[16:21] <Reptilia> TRGB:Hahahahahaah
[16:21] <TRGB> well hammered i guess, i'm sorry. i'm in a bit of a flux of a situation atm
[16:21] <GridCube> :)
[16:21] <TRGB> and being a pain because of it
[16:21] <GridCube> !ot | y'all
[16:22] <TRGB> meh. its a faitry quite channel. I'll fix all xubuntus!
[16:22] <GridCube> rules are rules, if we dont follow them we would fall into anarchy!
[16:22] <TRGB> true
[16:22] <TRGB> sry
[16:22] <TRGB> i will personally fix the hardest c or c++ bug on your plate stm
[16:22] <TRGB> atm
[16:23] <GridCube> and nothing good can come from anarchy, what would be next? free open software!?
[16:23] <TRGB> well, anarchy is a misjudged thing
[16:23] <GridCube> preposterous!
[16:23] <TRGB> ludicrous indeed
[16:23] <GridCube> yes
[16:23] <TRGB> next thing you know, humans will want to be free
[16:23] <GridCube> now i gotta do actual job
[16:23] <GridCube> good farings
[16:24] <TRGB> good day
[16:24] <TRGB> i am in between, so i will enjoy another beer
[16:24] <TRGB> does anyone remember the apple IIgs?
[16:25] <TRGB> how do i change channel to people that might?
[16:25] <holstein> TRGB: they may want to communicate about it in the #xubuntu-offtopic channel.. let us go there and see, since this is for support
[16:25] <TRGB> or bards tale
[16:25] <TRGB> ok sry, i don't mean to be an idiot
[16:25] <TRGB> i will remove myself shortly
[16:26] <holstein> TRGB: no need.. just come to the appropriate channel, and chat..
[16:26] <TRGB> name was a bit of a giveaway though
[16:26] <TRGB> how do i come to the appropriate channel?
[16:26] <holstein> TRGB: you can use the /join command, or, join channels however your chat client joins channels.. you can /join #xubuntu-offtopic
[16:27] <TRGB> no such channel #everquest
[16:27] <TRGB> what's going on, no everquest?
[16:27] <TRGB> #xubuntu-offtopic
[16:28] <holstein> /join #xubuntu-offtopic
[16:29] <Reptilia> Is there a way to remove items from an *indicator plugin* ?
[16:29] <TRGB> that was a terrible room holstein, you should be ashamed.
[16:29] <xangua> what itmes¿ what indicator plugin¿
[16:30] <holstein> TRGB: friend, you have not joined the appropriate channel.. i have not seen you /join it.. please, use this channel for only xubuntu support.. the name of the chat channel is #xubuntu-offtopic ..feel free and copy paste /join #xubuntu-offtopic to avoid typos
[16:30] <Reptilia> xangua:Well, i have the old battery icon (from the indicator plugin (useless)) and the newly added (with the screen brightness slider). Since i don't want the useless one, which is part of the indicator plugin, can i remove it from it?
[16:31] <TRGB> I'm kidding, sorry I meant no offense, you've been great. Is IRC sort of federated? how would i get onto say, a freebsd irc chat from here?
[16:31] <holstein> !freenode
[16:31] <TRGB> !freenode
[16:32] <TRGB> i;ve been tricked
[16:32] <TRGB> has the zork highway shut down?
[16:32] <Reptilia> lol
[16:32] <TRGB> !freenode
[16:33] <holstein> TRGB: you can query the bot, and keep non support related typing from the channel.. thanks
[16:34] <TRGB> want some rye. course you do
[16:34] <TRGB> ok
[17:07] <TheRotundGollumB> i have developed a rash on my mouse, and xubuntu installed it
[17:08] <TheRotundGollumB> i think its herpes
[18:03] <Varan> .
[19:51] <Varan> sage
[20:39] <xubuntu40w> I have a basic question about Linux...
[20:39] <xubuntu40w> about the command cd...
[20:40] <xubuntu40w> can anybody help?
[20:41] <Azelphur> !ask | xubuntu40w
[20:41] <xubuntu40w> sorry
[20:41] <Unit193> Change directory
[20:41] <xubuntu40w> ok..
[20:42] <xubuntu40w> home/louis/Documents/Open Classrooms/ I can type cd Documents and cd Open Classrooms
[20:42] <xubuntu40w> but ti doesnt work if I type cd Open Classrooms
[20:42] <xubuntu40w> How to type it?
[20:42] <Azelphur> xubuntu40w: you need to quote your arguments, cd sees you trying to cd into "Open" which doesn't exist
[20:42] <Azelphur> you can either escape the space by doing cd Open\ Classrooms
[20:42] <Azelphur> or use quotes, cd "Open Classrooms"
[20:43] <Azelphur> the same will actually apply to any command you use - not just cd
[20:43] <xubuntu40w> I've just tried your solution.. It works !! thanks !!
[20:44] <Azelphur> yw :)
[20:47] <ax562> hello, running windoze 8.1 and xubuntu 14.04 lts 64bit and my ntfs partition fails to mount when I'm in xubuntu. Any ideas?
[20:48] <Unit193> Got an error message? Generally speaking, one common one would be that you need to boot into Windows, cleanly shut down, then power it back up.
[20:49] <ax562> Unit193 that does not work
[20:49] <Unit193> That's just a common one, you'll have to actually share some context there. :)
[20:49] <ax562> well thanks for the help. what specifically do you need
[20:49] <ax562> ?
[20:51] <ax562> I was on 12.04 lts and I noticed it recently but never before. not reason i upgraded but I did come across it...was running xfce4 on ubuntu 12.04 lts and it actually gave me terminal insctructions to fix that worked
[20:51] <Unit193> Well, what happens when you try? Any error messages? Anything in dmesg, syslog, or such?
[20:51] <ax562> ummm I'm a novice to intermediate user..where can I find these logs
[20:58] <Unit193> `dmesg` is a command, and /var/log/syslog is a file.
[21:08] <ax562> stock text xubuntu app?
[21:10] <ax562> blank Unit193
[21:30] <ax562> hello, running windoze 8.1 and xubuntu 14.04 lts 64bit and my ntfs partition fails to mount when I'm in xubuntu. Any ideas?
[21:32] <ajgreeny> Hi all. New Ubuntu Member here. Hi ax562. Was the Windows ntfs partition unmounted when you tried or was Win8 going into hibernation mode?
[21:32] <ax562> ajgreeny no. I don't hibernate and I shut down correctly
[21:33] <ax562> I tried running help instruction set mount -ro or whatever but never worked
[21:33] <ajgreeny> Are you sure? Win8 defaults to a semi hibernation mode when it is shutdown.
[21:34] <ax562> well maybe that's my problem
[21:34] <ax562> I disable hibernation by default because I use pro tools HD
[21:34] <ax562> m
[21:35] <ax562> daw (music recording/production)
[21:36] <ajgreeny> I don't use windows at all any more, but I understand it can be a bit of a tricky business to make sure it shuts down totally, so double check all that in the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI page.
[21:38] <ax562> yeah, I only shutdown correctly..I was on 12.04 without a hiccup
[21:38] <ax562> but noticed that issue came up recently even on 12.04
[21:39] <ajgreeny> Not sure then. Sorry.
[21:39] <ajgreeny> What error messages show if you try to mount it manually?
[21:42] <ax562> Windows is hibernated, refused to mount.
[21:42] <ax562> Failed to mount '/dev/sda2': Operation not permitted
[21:42] <ax562> The NTFS partition is in an unsafe state. Please resume and shutdown
[21:42] <ax562> Windows fully (no hibernation or fast restarting), or mount the volume
[21:42] <ax562> read-only with the 'ro' mount option.
[21:45] <ajgreeny> So, as I thought, your ntfs partition is flagged as still mounted, or in use. I will have to let you search for the reason why, as I don't know anything more about Win8. Got to go now; sorry I can't help more, but at least you now know the reason for your mount problem, now you just need a solution and that's where I can't help.
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[01:29] <daftykins> Sony E3 briefing, hmm
[01:29] <daftykins> this No Man's Sky looks fun
[01:33] <diddledan> hmm, not sure about jupiter ascending. an interesting concept but I think it's more a prelude to a sequal than a movie in it's own right
[01:33] <diddledan> very procedural
[01:34] <diddledan> fun watch if you don't think about it tho
[01:35] <diddledan> it's got some nice music however
[01:37] <daftykins> :>
[01:37] <daftykins> that's on my list
[01:37] <diddledan> next-up methinks will be "kite"
[01:38] <diddledan> ref: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2044801/
[01:53] <diddledan> this looks intriguing: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3244512/
[06:31] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls
[06:34] <knightwise> morning brobostigon
[06:35] <brobostigon> morning knightwise
[06:35] * brobostigon has a funeral to go to this morning, so is getting his suit ready.
[06:37] * knightwise wears a suit allmost every day
[06:38] * brobostigon doesnt get to wear one that often. it feels abit strange.
[06:41] * brobostigon also needs to find out a way, of pushing irssi notification to ubuntu touch in real time.
[06:42] <knightwise> hmm.. still need to go "full ubuntu phone" for a week and see how that works out for me
[06:42] <knightwise> but i'm a bit scared to do so µ
[06:42] <knightwise> I run my company off my phone
[06:45] <brobostigon> similerly, there are some curcial features required, like i mentioned above, most of my communication run through irssi.
[06:45] <brobostigon> crucial*
[06:46] <knightwise> Calendar , mail , contacts
[06:46] <knightwise> those are the three most important ones
[06:46] <brobostigon> yes.
[06:48] <brobostigon> pebble support would be good too, :)
[06:48] <knightwise> + i cant always rely on a data connection. Sometimes i'm abroad
[06:48] <knightwise> then some "offline syncing" would be nice
[06:48] <knightwise> cant always lean on html5 apps
[06:49] <brobostigon> definatly.
[06:50] <knightwise> But i love the battery life. and perhaps the absence of all those (mostly distracting) apps is not such a bad thing after all.
[06:51] <knightwise> Counting down the days untill my Dell XPS gets here
[06:52] <brobostigon> :) hehe
[06:52] <knightwise> been playing on the Surface Pro I use for my meetings; Also not a bad machine
[07:21] <MooDoo> morning all
[07:22] <knightwise> hey MooDoo
[07:22] <brobostigon> morning MooDoo
[07:32] <brobostigon> now heres an idea, integrate xmpp/fb-messenger/hangouts/etc into messaging on ubuntu touch?
[08:07] <diplo> brobostigon, pidgin or jitsi can do that? Then again fb messenger and hangouts don't have public apis anymore ?
[08:07] <brobostigon> diplo: ok, let me see if they have ports to ubuntu touch.
[08:08] <diplo> I've seen people talking about it, that was a few weeks/month ago
[08:08] <diplo> But not seen any code
[08:08] <brobostigon> ok,
[08:15] <awilkins> diplo, Google chat still works for me from bitlbee (which I think is using XMPP)
[08:18] <awilkins> Although I'm told this is because there is a bridge from Google Talk to Hangouts
[08:30] <davmor2> Morning all
[08:55] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Fresh Veggies Day! 😃
[08:55] <MartijnVdS> ewww veggies
[08:56] <JamesTait> Funny that I just spent an hour in the garden.
[09:02] <davmor2> JamesTait: sunbathing isn't anything to do with fresh veg, nor is a water fight with the kids :P
[09:03] <JamesTait> Awww. :(
[09:06] <MartijnVdS> 🍆
[09:07] <popey> Happy birthday AlanBell
[09:11] <davmor2> Hippo Birdy Indeed Mr Bell :)
[09:16] <SuperMatt> http://devopsreactions.tumblr.com/post/121661216099/the-new-kernel-is-here
[09:25] <foobarry> SuperMatt: every post on that tumbler is brilliant
[09:26] <foobarry> http://devopsreactions.tumblr.com/post/118933329057/bash-ls-command-not-found
[09:35] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[09:41] <SuperMatt> foobarry: I've had that one. not fun.
[09:42] <SuperMatt> it generally means that someone has done something remarkably messy
[09:43] <SuperMatt> as someone did the other day "mv / /home"
[09:45] <directhex> http://www.kotaku.co.uk/2015/06/16/ouyas-been-bought-out-by-razer
[09:46] <popey> indeed
[09:46] <davmor2> bigcalm: hey dude, how's life
[09:46] <bigcalm> Hi davmor2. Today it is noisey. Workmen are installing a pod of 6 desks at our office
[09:47] <davmor2> bigcalm: you expanding or something?
[09:47] <bigcalm> davmor2: looks like it
[09:47] <bigcalm> Hotdesking I believe
[09:49] <foobarry> what do lego call it?
[09:49] <foobarry> found some of that programme a bit :-|
[09:50] <foobarry> i suppose when you hire fans it can get rather cult-ish (google, lego, apple, etc)
[09:51] <foobarry> and then when you control staff begaviour...
[09:57] <foobarry> directhex: before you bin your touchpad..i heard 5.x is out for it
[09:57] <directhex> ebayed that ages ago
[09:57] <foobarry> heh
[09:57] <foobarry> get anything for it?
[09:57] <foobarry> mine has damaged case where i replaced the screen
[09:58] <foobarry> and is really slow for some reason
[11:19] <neeetz> I get this error everytime Processing was halted because there were too many errors. E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) , looks like there is some python package reoved from the system
[11:28] <directhex> neeetz: sounds like an issue with your package database. fixable, but hard to do remotely. if you can pastebin *complete* messages, and obey instructions *precisely*, it can be fixed
[11:30] <neeetz> directhex: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11724293/
[11:31] <directhex> hm. python-minimal missing
[11:32] <directhex> 14.04
[11:32] <directhex> 32 or 64 bit?
[11:33] <neeetz> directhex: 64
[11:33] <directhex> download http://es.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/python-defaults/python-minimal_2.7.5-5ubuntu3_amd64.deb and try installing it with "dpkg -i python-minimal_2.7.5-5ubuntu3_amd64.deb"
[11:34] <neeetz> directhex: dpkg won't work
[11:35] <directhex> remember what i said about complete messages?
[11:36] <neeetz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11724293/
[11:36] <neeetz> directhex: i posted it
[11:36] <neeetz> :/
[11:36] <neeetz> directhex: when i run dpkg
[11:36] <directhex> that's the output from "dpkg -i python-minimal_2.7.5-5ubuntu3_amd64.deb" ?
[11:37] <directhex> because to me, something beginning "Reading package lists... Done" is output from apt, not dpkg
[11:43] <neeetz> directhex: done
[11:43] <neeetz> directhex: i did dpkg , it installed
[11:44] <neeetz> directhex: but when i do apt-get update , same error
[11:45] <directhex> update or upgrade?
[11:46] <directhex> i'm going to go and do my exercise in about 5 minutes. you have until then before i disappear for an hour
[11:48] <knightwise> damn. I just upgraded mps-youtube on my raspberry and now i'm getting a bunch of errors :(
[11:49] <knightwise> http://pastebin.com/iKkiv9wS
[11:49] <popey> maybe install python-requests
[11:50] <knightwise> giving it a try
[11:51] <knightwise> nope :( same error
[11:51] <knightwise> hmm. i did the upgrade via pip install so .. it should work
[11:53] <popey> oh, no idea then
[11:53] <popey> you probably need to pip install some other nonsense then
[11:54] <knightwise> hmmm.. i'll check again.
[12:02] <knightwise> Found it. Needed to install newer version of pip
[12:03] <knightwise> pip-3.2 instead of "regular" pip
[14:05] <diddledan> quiet in here today
[14:06] * zmoylan-pi waters the tumbleweed and listens to coyotes in distance...
[14:08] <diddledan> so I want a 4k display
[14:08] <diddledan> :-p
[14:08] <diddledan> hidpi ftw
[14:10] <zmoylan-pi> then get mame running and play space invaders in 4k...
[14:12] <diddledan> does mame do upscaling?
[14:13] <zmoylan-pi> it's not about the res it's about doing something silly to annoy others :-P
[14:13] <diddledan> lol
[14:13] <zmoylan-pi> make sure to point out the dolby system... :-D
[14:14] <diddledan> dolby +adlib
[14:14] <diddledan> i.e. adlib card emulation ouput on a dolby surround system
[14:15] <zmoylan-pi> bonus points for getting zx spectrum games running on that rig... :-)
[14:52] <daftykins> just unboxed a Lenovo X1 carbon :O
[14:53] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/e83vhve5shdm93f/AADzIc9NZrlUiK-Oer-nBlkCa?dl=
[14:53] <diddledan> win7?
[14:53] <daftykins> yeah it shipped with a downgrade
[14:53] <daftykins> Lenovo won't ship to us down here, so i had to go to dabs - they and most etailers seem to sell the win7 downgrade models
[14:54] <diddledan> well that's silly
[14:54] <diddledan> win8.1 is the new shiny :-p
[14:54] <daftykins> it's a turd and business knows it
[14:54] <diplo> Anyone tried Win10 preview ?
[14:54] <daftykins> but it will be better for this machine, given this is one of the WQHD models :o
[14:54] <daftykins> diplo: yep been using it for a long time
[14:55] <daftykins> been through 3 or 4 builds
[14:55] <diddledan> I'm on it right now
[14:55] <diddledan> I've been using it since the first release
[14:56] <diplo> Just debating whether to get the upgrade on work laptop or just leave it on 7
[14:56] <daftykins> no point taking action now, it'll be available for a year
[14:57] <daftykins> i suspect the upgrade installs will cause some drama for some :)
[14:57] <diddledan> and rtm will be out in 6 weeks
[15:03] <shauno> anyone in / overly familiar with southampton?
[15:06] <diplo> Not overly but can drive around it and through parts of it.. if you want street names no
[15:06] <diplo> :)
[15:07] <daftykins> :D
[15:07] <daftykins> i've flown in a few times over the years!
[15:07] <shauno> trying to figure my chances of getting from the airport to hamble in ~30 minutes
[15:07] <daftykins> well the train station is right beside, if that's any good to you
[15:07] <shauno> so mostly "how bad is the m27 at 10am on a friday"
[15:08] <shauno> yeah I was looking at that, but the train out from there is every 20 minutes
[15:08] <shauno> so it could be perfect, or I could be quite late, depending on which end of "every 20 minutes" I hit
[15:09] <diplo> shauno: M27 is fine at that sort of time imo
[15:09] <diplo> Any time between 7:30~ and 9 it's awful
[15:09] <shauno> hm. I may chance it then
[15:10] <shauno> trying to decide if a taxi that morning will be quick enough, or if I have to arrive the night before and find somewhere to crash. and it's close
[15:13] <ging> is there a way to get newer intel graphic driver on ubuntu 14.04 without upgrading to 14.10 ?
[15:14] <diddledan> why?
[15:14] <diddledan> you can install the HWE
[15:14] <diddledan> that's about it
[15:14] <ging> there is some drm problem which keeps shutting down the screen on my laptop
[15:17] <diddledan> drm as in digital restrictions management?
[15:17] <daftykins> ging: have you confirmed it's resolved in a newer mainline kernel?
[15:18] <ging> daftykins: no am just hoping new drivers would fix it
[15:18] <daftykins> ging: well that's what you'd get by throwing a newer kernel on to test :)
[15:18] <daftykins> !mainline
[15:18] <daftykins> maybe do a backup, try one... see if it solves anything
[15:20] <ging> daftykins: i've done nothing, it's a standard install
[15:21] <ging> there was a tool from intel which installs the latest drivers, except for some reason they only do it for the lastest distro
[15:21] <diddledan> DON'T DO THAT
[15:21] <ging> they have withdrawn the 14.04 one
[15:22] <diddledan> hardware drivers direct from the manufacturer invariably mess-up ubuntu - only use drivers provided by the ubuntu repos
[15:25] <daftykins> ging: never run any of those intel installers :P
[15:27] <directhex> i know who writes the intel installer
[15:27] <directhex> he's a good dev
[15:29] <ging> do you know why they revoke the old ones?
[15:30] <ging> seems a bit odd, unless they become redundant because the latest working driver gets build in
[15:32] <daftykins> directhex: does that change it being wise to apply to an ubuntu installation?
[15:32] <directhex> it should be harmless if it's not helpful
[15:33] <directhex> ging: bingo
[15:33] <daftykins> just gets peoples systems into a mess when trying to help in #ubuntu
[15:38] <diplo> https://letsencrypt.org/2015/06/16/lets-encrypt-launch-schedule.html
[15:41] <TwistedLucidity> diplo: Woo!
[15:43] <diddledan> nice that "A cross-signature from IdenTrust will be in place for general availability, so that our certificates will validate automatically for the vast majority of consumers." - means they don't need to wait for beaurocracy of the various browsers
[15:51] <bujji> how i can build my won distro?
[15:52] <directhex> if you need to ask...
[15:52] <diddledan> bujji: www.linuxfromscratch.com
[15:52] <diddledan> or maybe .org
[15:52] <bujji> .com is not working
[15:53] <diddledan> if you mean "spin of ubuntu" then that's not creating your own distro
[15:53] <bujji> spin of ubunntu ?
[15:53] <directhex> diddledan: is steamos a distro? where's the line?
[15:54] <directhex> bujji: what do you *actually* want to achieve, exactly?
[15:54] <diddledan> directhex: I guess the line is if you're providing custom packages or not
[15:54] <directhex> diddledan: add one PPA to the defaults, you count as a distro?
[15:54] <diddledan> directhex: no
[15:55] <bujji> directhex:how i can build my own distro.?
[15:55] <directhex> bujji: what do you think that actually means?
[15:55] <directhex> bujji: what is your understanding of what a distro is, and what it contains?
[15:56] <directhex> and in what way do you want to deviate from what already exists?
[15:57] <bujji> directhex:how i can build this ubuntu dtribuion
[15:58] <directhex> what would you like to do to ubuntu? add things? remove things? change existing things?
[15:58] <diddledan> directhex: I think the line is somewhat blurry - I suggest that the difference between spin and distro is 1) philosophical and personal, 2) dependant on how much you change from a base distro if you're subclassing
[15:58] <shauno> LFS actually isn't a bad suggestion for bujji I think
[15:59] <diddledan> shauno: \o/
[15:59] <directhex> shauno: you don't know that. they haven't made it even slightly clear what they want to achieve
[15:59] <diddledan> directhex: he's a regular offender
[15:59] <bashrc> Donald Trump running for president, apparently
[15:59] <shauno> I've been talking to him on and off for days now. I'm pretty convinced he's not actually trying to achieve anything, just trying to understand as much as he can
[16:00] <diddledan> at least this time it's actually on-topic rather than random financial questions
[16:00] <daftykins> lol.
[16:00] <daftykins> i missed those
[16:01] <bujji> diddledan:offender..am did anything wrong?
[16:01] <diddledan> bujji: no, it's just a turn-of-phrase
[16:04] <bujji> shauno:yes,i am knowing things...if i know then can apply..you people already did some of the things you can suggest me the way to achieve ))
[16:09] <bujji> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9K-iUJgFhWA
[16:13] <daftykins> and off he goes
[16:18] <directhex> "what exactly are you trying to achieve" is *such* a hard question for beginners @_@
[16:19] <shauno> I genuinely thing he's not trying to achieve anything
[16:20] <shauno> we spent *hours* going over hardlinks and symlinks without the slightest hint of practical application
[16:20] <diddledan> I suggest that sometimes it's important to work out what you can get away with not knowing
[16:21] <diddledan> i.e. I've never looked at kernel development because I don't need to know about it
[16:22] <diddledan> that "i.e." would probably read better as an "e.g." :-)
[17:18] <brobostigon> ok, question, form my research, messaging in ubuntu touch uses telepathy, so why not just add the telepathy xmpp modules, could work?
[17:26] <diddledan> could you try rephrasing that?
[17:29] <brobostigon> sudo aptitude install telepathy-gabble
[17:31] <davmor2> brobostigon: are you in the right window or are you losing the arguement with yourself ;)
[17:32] <brobostigon> davmor2: wouldnt that work though, because if messaging picks up on telepathy, adding that, would give it that ability?
[17:34] <davmor2> brobostigon: we have no idea what you want to do. Yes you can add it you then need a client to use it ie empathy, then you need to talk to accounts to use it which means you need to install accounts-gabble or something like that
[17:35] <davmor2> the telepathy stuff is just backend
[17:36] <diddledan> I'm surprised xmpp isn't availble in empathy already
[17:36] <diddledan> afaict it should be default
[17:37] <davmor2> brobostigon: APT-Manual-Installed: yes on apt show telepathy-gabble
[17:37] <brobostigon> davmor2: good point, i am aiming for xmpp to show, ie, you add an xmpp acount like the other, and then messages from said xmpp to show in messages.
[17:37] <davmor2> brobostigon: so open empathy
[17:37] <brobostigon> others*
[17:37] <davmor2> brobostigon: add your account and done
[17:38] <davmor2> brobostigon: it's installed by default
[17:38] <davmor2> brobostigon: right next :)
[17:38] <brobostigon> davmor2: so i can run empathy on ubuntu touch?
[17:38] <davmor2> brobostigon: you said nothing about ubuntu touch
[17:39] <brobostigon> 17:18:34 < brobostigon> ok, question, form my research, messaging in ubuntu touch uses telepathy, so why not just add the telepathy xmpp modules, could work?
[17:39] <brobostigon> i did,
[17:39] <ali1234> it was literally the first line ^
[17:39] <davmor2> brobostigon: oh sorry my mistake misread it
[17:39] <brobostigon> davmor2: no worries.
[17:40] <davmor2> brobostigon: no you would still need a client. there is no chat client
[17:40] <ali1234> so a more interesting question, is can we rip the excellent skype/empathy libraries from an N900 and use those on ubuntu touch?
[17:40] <davmor2> ali1234: possibly
[17:40] <brobostigon> davmor2: thats what i am trying to solve, and make it consistant with the rest of the messaging.
[17:41] <ali1234> in theory that's the whole point of empathy
[17:41] <ali1234> makes all the different chat services appear in one place
[17:41] <davmor2> brobostigon: so theoretically it's possible
[17:42] <brobostigon> davmor2: thats what i thought, and am thinking of ways to achieve it.
[17:43] <ali1234> wait
[17:43] <ali1234> i'm getting them mixed up
[17:43] <ali1234> telepathy is the lib, empathy is the ui?
[17:43] <diddledan> ali1234: yes
[17:43] <ali1234> so does ubuntu touch have a telepathy UI by default?
[17:44] <brobostigon> because, it would be better, to not have a seperate xmpp client, but have everything consistantly together, rather than to seperate apps for the same job.
[17:44] <ali1234> maybe empathy, maybe something else?
[17:46] <diddledan> grr @ putin - gonna ADD 40 additional nuclear ballistics
[17:47] * brobostigon is making a list, of issues he needs to file.
[17:50] * brobostigon likes making lists.
[17:51] * diddledan adds brobostigon to "the list"
[17:51] <diddledan> (people I'm going to murdorise)
[17:51] <diddledan> :-p
[17:51] * brobostigon is all sad now, he dont want to be murdered.
[17:51] <diddledan> well it serves you right for making lists :-D
[17:52] <brobostigon> eh, :)
[17:52] <diddledan> everyone who makes lists gets on my list of people to bump-off
[17:52] <brobostigon> does that include david cameron?
[17:52] <diddledan> defo
[17:52] * brobostigon approves.
[17:53] <diddledan> he's the worst list-maker
[17:53] <shauno> just make sure to put yourself at the bottom of your own list. if you're at the top it doesn't work so well
[17:53] <diddledan> oh.
[17:53] <diddledan> hmm.
[17:53] <diddledan> dammit.
[17:54] <diddledan> ffs. der spiegel is reporting that websites are responsible for insults made by their users
[17:55] <daftykins> :/
[17:55] <diddledan> http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/netzpolitik/gerichtshof-urteilt-zu-beleidigungen-in-nutzerforen-a-1039058.html
[17:55] <daftykins> that's ridiculous
[17:55] <diddledan> it's also germany that's insisting that copyright means that if I want to link to der spiegel I've got to pay der spiegel for the privilege
[17:56] <diddledan> so I owe them monies for the link I just popped above
[17:57] <diddledan> o_O graham clueless is suggesting emoji passwords as a solution to someone guessing your password
[17:58] <diddledan> (beware, I am about to owe someone else monies for linking!): http://www.tripwire.com/state-of-security/security-data-protection/could-emoji-passwords-be-safer-for-online-bank-users/
[18:01] * knightwise thinks what the emoji for "piece of sh*t-pizza" would look like
[18:02] <diddledan> surely that's just a combo of the "pizza slice" emoji with the "pile of poo" emoji?
[18:03] <shauno> 💩🍕?
[18:03] <diddledan> >.<
[18:03] <diddledan> I can't read that
[18:03] <diddledan> windows ftl
[18:03] <shauno> that's okay. you have no functional requirement to read my passwords :)
[18:04] <shauno> (and emoji passwords don't need some fantastic tech someone has to announce. just handle utf properly)
[18:05] <intrbiz> i'd be interested if by people constructing a story would introduce a statistical bias and thus weakness
[18:05] <diddledan> I really don't understand why websites and such don't just pass the raw data into the encyprtion routines instead of insisting that they be valid ascii
[18:06] <shauno> my theory is the harder systems try to be clever, the harder they go wrong
[18:06] <shauno> like claiming my 22-digit passwords aren't secure because they don't contain letters. or worse, that they're too long
[18:06] <intrbiz> shauno: isn't that just restating systems theory
[18:07] <diddledan> I hate those systems that claim for a secure password I must not use symbols and be less than 15 characters
[18:09] <intrbiz> cough verified by visa
[18:10] <intrbiz> banning non-alphanumerics irritates me the most
[18:10] <MartijnVdS> 7-bit ASCII only!
[18:11] <davmor2> ali1234: telepathy and mission-control are on the phone and desktop by default
[18:12] <davmor2> brobostigon: in theory you could include telepathy-gable and make a basic chat client window that talks to it
[18:13] <brobostigon> davmor2: thats what i had in mind as well.
[18:43] <davmor2> brobostigon: there is talk of adding functions to the messaging app as a kinda all in one chat client and the same for telepathy-sofiasip and the dialer app but I have no idea how far off that is
[18:44] <brobostigon> davmor2: thats an interesting idea.
[19:03] <brobostigon> davmor2: do us normals humans, have a chance to look at all this?
[19:04] <brobostigon> normal*
[19:04] <Azelphur> Hey folks, I created /etc/init/deluged.conf and now sudo service deluged start says unrecognized service, any ideas?
[19:04] <Azelphur> is there something Ihave to do to make upstart aware of it?
[19:04] <MartijnVdS> Azelphur: yes... I think so
[19:05] <MartijnVdS> but I'm on a systemd machine atm so I can't really check
[20:31] <diddledan_> chris evans is the jeremy clarkson replacement?
[20:31] <daftykins> *entire
[20:32] <brobostigon> yep.
[20:32] <brobostigon> apparently.
[20:36] <awilkins_> WELCOME TO GINGER TOPGEAR
[20:41] <brobostigon> lolx v.x~
[20:41] <brobostigon> ~ = infinate.
[20:58] <daftykins> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11727205/ - what's making grub-mkconfig trip up on each of the functions within /etc/default/grub ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/11727153/
[20:59] <daftykins> (i refer to line 27's return code 127)
[21:26] <diddledan_> daftykins: what's in /etc/default/grub?
[21:26] <diddledan_> daftykins: it should be bash script
[21:26] <daftykins> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11727153/
[21:26] <daftykins> this apparently :S
[21:26] <diddledan_> yeah that looks wrong
[21:27] <diddledan_> hang on, let me boot an ubuntu
[21:27] <daftykins> yeah somehow this user has had the file substitute the normal looking 'grub'
[21:28] <diddledan_> somehow being they either did something wrong or followed incorrect advice
[21:28] <diddledan_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11727334/
[21:28] <diddledan_> that's mine
[21:29] <daftykins> *nod* gonna throw in a default and run sudo update-grub i think
[21:37] <diddledan> dangit
[21:37] <daftykins> diddledan: yep replace and update-grub sorted it
[21:37] <daftykins> diddledan: Lenovo X1 Carbon clean install - https://www.dropbox.com/s/ddj93shalr5m9v5/IMG_20150616_223246.jpg?dl=0
[21:37] <daftykins> :D
[21:38] <diddledan> jaybers
[22:39] <diddledan> hmm: http://www.novatech.co.uk/products/monitors/4kuhdmonitors/210-acok.html
[22:41] <daftykins> if it's TN - don't touch, if it's IPS - go ahead
[22:41] <daftykins> ah hit spec page
[22:41] <diddledan> TN?
[22:41] <daftykins> yep that's TN, that'll suck
[22:41] <daftykins> Twisted Neumatic, a type of LCD
[22:42] <daftykins> they're the ones where the colours invert very quickly at different viewing angles
[22:42] <daftykins> so they're only good when looking straight on
[22:42] <daftykins> In Plane Switching (IPS) are way better from all angles
[23:07] <daftykins> heh was just looking up videos of this French telco to find out how you pronounce it
[23:07] <daftykins> off the islands here you can sometimes see "FR Bouygues"
[23:08] <ali1234> "bogeys"
[23:08] <daftykins> no :P
[23:08] <daftykins> though that's what a client was claiming XD
[23:09] <ali1234> yes, but it annoys them
[23:09] <daftykins> seems they just say 'Bwee'
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"diplo",
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"foobarry",
"ging",
"intrbiz",
"knightwise",
"neeetz",
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2015-06-16-#ubuntu-jp
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[13:05] <hito_jp> ねむいくたびれたしぬこんばんは
[13:05] <mizuno> こんばんは
[13:05] <mocchi> デバイスがうごきませんこんばんは。
[13:06] <hito_jp> 広報担当者がメモも取らないくせに逆ギレしてきますもう疲れました
[13:06] <mocchi> あぁ・・・（察し
[13:07] <hito_jp> さすがに過去四回とも理由を説明してきて「なぜそうしないといけないのか理由を教えてください」って言われたらマヂギレしていいですよね
[13:14] <hito_jp> とりあえずミーティングの有無とわず報告を垂れ流しておきます
[13:14] <hito_jp> 今週末のイベントは申し込み65人でした。オリジン弁当のオードブルプレートを約4万円分弱調達してあります。
[13:14] <hito_jp> 飲み物と安いつまみで+2万程度の見込みです
[13:15] <hito_jp> 枠はちょっと余裕があるかもしれませんがちょーなんさんの神司会テクといくやさん（リアルゴッド）の手によりてきとうに場がもたせられるハズなので問題ありません
[13:16] <mocchi> ちょうなんさんがんばれ。
[13:18] <hito_jp> ちょーなんさんちょーがんばれ
[13:20] <ikuyaNOTE> zh
[13:20] <ikuyaNOTE> ←一般人
[13:20] <mocchi> おぉ、神よ（何か言わなきゃならない気がして
[13:21] <hito_jp> 会場に一般人ほかにいないんで大丈夫です
[13:21] <mizuno> OSC北海道終わりました。セミナーの入りは25人弱くらいかな。
[13:22] <ikuyaNOTE> おつおつ
[13:22] <mocchi> お疲れさまでした
[13:22] <hito_jp> おつかれさまでした
[13:22] <mizuno> 今回コンテナの中に書籍の類が入ってなかったので、ブースが割と寂しかったす。もし手元に入門キットとかSDとかあったら、沖縄の時は入れておいてくれると賑やかしになるので嬉しいです
[13:23] <mizuno> あと沖縄はもう間に合わないと思うけど、京都向けになにかグッズを購入してもいいかな、と思いました
[13:24] <mocchi> +1
[13:24] <hito_jp> +1
[13:25] <mocchi> そう言えば、オフラインミーティングにネックストラップの在庫もってくの忘れないようにしなきゃ。
[13:25] <hito_jp> よろしくお願いしまーす
[13:25] <mizuno> では何かアイテムを見繕ってみましょう。今のラインナップ知らないんだよね(でもたぶんKubuntuボールペンはまだセールしてる気がする
[13:28] <hito_jp> KubuntuボールペンとKubuntu Tシャツ各種が安売り中ですね
[13:28] <hito_jp> あとJackalopeとか
[13:28] <mizuno> もうそれ年中行事ですね
[13:28] <hito_jp> 「ところでこいつを見てくれ」「すごく……見飽きてます……」http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=413
[13:29] <mizuno> これはひどい
[13:30] <mocchi> kubuntu・・・かわいそうな子。
[13:30] <hito_jp> Netbook RemixとかLPIAとかにくらべるとかわいそうじゃないですよ。
[13:31] <mocchi> lpiaありましたねぇ。。。
[13:31] <ikuyaNOTE> LPIA……
[13:32] <hito_jp> とりあえずミーティングとしては未開催でいいのかな。ブツ買うのはMLで宣言してもらって
[13:32] <hito_jp> 反対意見が出なければGo
[13:32] <hito_jp> でいいです？
[13:32] <mocchi> いちおう議事録っぽいもの書いてますが。
[13:32] <hito_jp> 開催宣言してないからなあ
[13:32] <hito_jp> まあいいか書いてもらえたのならそれでいきましょう
[13:33] <mocchi> らじゃ
[13:36] <mocchi> https://wiki.ubuntulinux.jp/IRCMeeting/20150616
[13:37] <mocchi> こんな感じでいかがでしょ？
[13:39] <hito_jp> すばらしー
[13:41] <mocchi> じゃぁこれで。
[13:41] <mocchi> hito: メーリングリストへのポストなどお願いできます？
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2015-06-16-#ubuntu-de
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[03:28] <DarkTomas> Morgen :)
[11:33] <ubuntu134534> moin, ich hab ne Frage kann mir hier jemand erklären wieso "ipsec up vpn" nicht in shellscripts ausgeführt wird?
[11:34] <ubuntu134534> die Zeile wird komplett ignoriert... also erst gar nicht ausgefuehrt ohne jegliche fehlermeldung
[11:34] <ubuntu134534> ipsec start klappt wunderbar
[11:34] <ubuntu134534> aber ipsec up vpn oder so funktioniert nicht. man kriegt keine fehlermessage keine erfolgsnachricht gar nix.. der befehl wird scheinbar erst gar nicht ausgeführt
[11:35] <ubuntu134534> selbst wenn ich ihn in einen bash einzeiler schreibe..
[11:35] <ubuntu134534> wenn ich ihn im terminal ausführe
[11:35] <ubuntu134534> klappts
[11:47] <geser> was ist die Ausgabe von "type ipsec" im Terminal?
[12:11] <lesley> hallo zusammen, versuche jetzt schon seit stunden eine Soundausgabe über HDMI zu realisieren, allerdings will es einfach nicht funktionieren.. die treiber sollten wohl laut "lsmod | grep 'snd'" richtig installiert sein(snd_hda_intel) allerdings erscheint im alsamixer nichts von wegen HDMI hat jemand vlt noch eine Idee?
[12:13] <lesley> Pulse habe ich auch installiert, da ist allerdings auch nichts zu finden..
[12:27] <stevieh> lesley: ist das ein Desktop system?
[12:28] <lesley> stevieh: ne ist ein notebook
[12:28] <stevieh> was für ne Grafik drin?
[12:28] <lesley> intel hd 4400
[12:29] <stevieh> was zeigt denn das klangeinstellungs applet an?
[12:30] <lesley> Naja bei "Tonausgabe über:" steht halt nur Lautsprecher da sollte ja auch eigentlich hdmi zu finden sein
[12:30] <lesley> so war es zumindest früher immer
[12:30] <stevieh> genau, so sieht das bei mir auch aus.
[12:30] <stevieh> das erscheint aber nur, wenn hdmi auch benutzt wird, oder?
[12:31] <lesley> also momentan erscheint ja leider garnichts...
[12:31] <stevieh> ein entsprechendes gerät ist am hdmi angeschlossen?
[12:31] <lesley> jap, bild funktioniert ja auch
[12:32] <stevieh> ne, weiss ich auch nicht weiter...
[12:33] <lesley> kannst du vlt mal schauen ob bei dir der befehl aplay -l 2 karten anzeigt. müsste glaube ich so sein.. bei mir steht da nämlich nur eine
[12:33] <lesley> aplay -l
[12:34] <stevieh> ja, da stehen sogar drei hdmi devices...
[12:34] <lesley> das dacht ich mir schon, so ein mist...
[12:36] <Lothenon> was ist das für ein laptop?
[12:36] <lesley> Lenovo Thinkpad e540
[12:37] <stevieh> die sollten doch eigentlich unkritisch sein. Ging das schonmal?
[12:37] <stevieh> so einen hab ich zuhause mit 14.04 drauf... denk ich
[12:38] <lesley> ja hatte schonmal linux drauf installiert und da hat alles funktioniert.. also wenn ich das richtig sehe ist der Soundchip für HDMI in der Intel HD verbaut, allerdings findet der das gerät scheinbar nicht...
[12:41] <Lothenon> hm, hier hat einer ein ähnliches problem: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-lts-utopic/+bug/1433891
[12:41] <kubine> Lothenon: Title: Bug #1433891 “[Lenovo E?50 I+A] There is no 'HDMI / DisplayPort'...” : Bugs : linux-lts-utopic package : Ubuntu (at bugs.launchpad.net)
[12:44] <Lothenon> hm, lese gerade, auch unter w8 gibts wohl ab und an probleme mit hdmi-audio
[12:44] <stevieh> was isses denn für ein ubuntu?
[12:45] <lesley> ganz normales 15.04
[12:45] <lesley> Lothenon: ja das ist ein beliebtes problem ;)
[12:45] <stevieh> hehe.
[12:45] <stevieh> so frisch bin ich noch nicht.
[12:47] <k1l> adapter involviert?
[12:48] <lesley> ne ganz normales kabel
[12:49] <lesley> habe es auch schon ausgetauscht.. denke mal das problem liegt tatsächlich daran, dass ubuntu den hdmi soundchip nicht findet sonst müsste "aplay -l" den ja ausgeben...
[12:51] <marcellus> habe auch probleme mit ubuntu und HDMI...
[12:51] <stevieh> ich weiss nicht, ob hdmi ton angezeigt wird, wenn es nicht an ist.
[12:51] <marcellus> ich hab schon alles versucht... muss leider windows starten und es geht...
[12:51] <stevieh> bei 14.10 geht es jetzt seit geraumer zeit recht geschmeidig.
[12:51] <stevieh> auf nem X230
[12:53] <lesley> hmm also unter 14.04 lief es damals eigentlich auch, bin da grad echt etwas ratlos
[12:54] <stevieh> probier doch nochmal live cds von 14.04 und 14.10 aus.
[12:54] <Lothenon> vllt. hilft ja schon in grub "i915.disable_power_well=0" *malinsblauehineingeraten*, soll zumindest bei schrillen Tönen helfen wie in http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=299850 beschrieben
[12:59] <lesley> ja das dacht ich mir auch schon, nur hilft mir dass ja auch nicht unbedingt weiter, hab ja 15.04 schon drauf...
[13:00] <stevieh> jain.
[13:00] <stevieh> die wahrscheinlichkeit ist recht hoch, dass es bei irgendnem kernel versaubeutelt wurde.
[13:00] <stevieh> und dann kannst du evtl. warten, bis 15.04 gefixt ist, oder nen neueren kernel klauen etc. pp.
[13:01] <stevieh> Aber vor allem kannst du dir syslogs von dem kram in gehend anschauen und die differenzen sehen
[13:02] <lesley> hmmm das könnte es wirklich sein zurzeit läuft bei mir 3.19.0-18, da 3.19.0-20 nicht gebootet hat... blackscreen!
[13:05] <k1l> das klingt ja eher nach allgemeinen problemen mit der gpu/treiber
[13:08] <lesley> also in der bootlog finde ich nur folgendes: [ 1.534699] ACPI PCC probe failed aber glaub nicht dass was dass damit zu tun hat?
[13:09] <lesley> "Apparently it is a harmless message related to a 'PCC' driver:"
[13:15] <stevieh> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1457369
[13:15] <kubine> stevieh: Title: Bug #1457369 “kernel 3.19.0-18 breaks HDMI audio for snd_hda_int...” : Bugs : linux package : Ubuntu (at bugs.launchpad.net)
[13:15] <stevieh> da haste dir wohl den passenden kernel rausgesucht ;-)
[13:17] <lesley> ok dann weiß ich jetzt immerhin woran es liegt! besten dank stevieh! ich denke ich werd dann mal en backup ziehen und neu installieren ;)
[13:17] <stevieh> würde ich nicht machen.
[13:18] <lesley> sondern?
[13:19] <stevieh> frischeren Kernel nehmen
[13:19] <lesley> ja das hab ich schon versucht, hat aber leider nicht zum erfolg geführt
[13:19] <stevieh> steht aber da
[13:21] <lesley> also wie gesagt, der rechner bootet leider garnicht mit dem aktuellem kernel.. -> blackscreen
[13:22] <stevieh> dann bekomm doch eher raus,warum :-)
[13:22] <lesley> stand noch "ACPI PCC Probe failed" " "A TPM error (6) occurred attempting to read a pcr value" dann stand noch "Starting version 219" und danch kam der blackscreen
[13:23] <lesley> das mit dem PCC soll allerdings harmlos sein
[13:26] <lesley> hab grad mal den aktuellen 3.19.0-21 installiert, versuch mal grad zu booten
[14:06] <PachiriSuu> servus
[14:23] <RedNifre> Guten Tag.
[14:23] <RedNifre> Ich habe gerade TeXMaker installiert, aber die GUI ist viel zu klein, obwohl ich eigentlich in Ubuntu eine Skallierung eingestellt habe. Gibt es einen LaTeX-Editor fuer Ubuntu, der mit hochaufloesenden Displays funktioniert?
[14:33] <ppq> RedNifre, gummi vielleicht, bin mir gerade nicht sicher bzgl hoher auflösung, aber der editor taugt
[17:19] <setra> Hallo, Ich habe eine sichere SSL Verbindung nur mit Public Key Authentication eingerichtet... juhu...habe mich ewig nicht mehr eingeloggt und jetzt ist interessanterweise das passwort des users "ergraut". Somit hab ich keine möglich keit mehr ein root zu werden, oder mich als root einzuloggen, denn der einzige user der auf dem rechner login erlaubnis hat ist er. Kann ich irgendwie das passwort des angeloggten users ändern ohne s
[17:19] <setra> ein passwort zu wissen?
[17:20] <setra> kann ich beispielsweise vortäuschen das ich einmal ein sudo gemacht habe, denn dann hab ich ein timeout, bevor ich es wieder eingeben muss?
[17:23] <oxymor00n> glaub da gab's mal nen bug bezüglich verdrehen der systemzeit. Aber das darfst halt normalerweise auch nur als root
[17:23] <oxymor00n> is das ne remote kiste?
[17:24] <setra> ja
[17:25] <oxymor00n> Bei root hast nicht eventuell nen public key hinterlegt?
[17:25] <setra> ich bin eingeloggt und probiere nun seit ner stunde sudo -i.... interessanterweise gibts da keine bruteforce erkennung...
[17:25] <setra> ich hab dem root verboten sich anzumelden
[17:26] <oxymor00n> ach überhaupt shell auf /bin/false oder so?
[17:26] <oxymor00n> dacht do könntest sonst ssh root@localhost machen vom user aus
[17:29] <setra> hab ich grad probiert aber bekomm nur permission denied(publickey, keyboard-interactive)
[17:30] <oxymor00n> mh. ich glaub das wird schwierig
[17:30] <setra> oxymor00n, kann nicht mehr genau sagen ob ich das shell auf /bin/false gesetzt hab
[17:31] <oxymor00n> Ne glaub da gibt's auch nen Parameter von sshd, ich vermut mal den wirst du gesetzt haben, dann geht in die richtung auch nix
[17:31] <setra> es ist einfach zu ewig her...
[17:31] <setra> verdammt, ich kann nicht mal ins root verzeichnis gucken
[17:32] <setra> das grace-perioderl kann ich nicht irgendwie setzen?
[17:33] <setra> dann wär ich für 5min sudo gewesen und ich kann mein password resetten... leider ist der schaden gr
[17:33] <setra> össer als ich gedacht hab, denn eine ganze server farm hängt da so an diesem passwort... wein*
[17:35] <setra> noch ist alles gut, aber wehe... ein bit fällt irgendwo um, dann tu ich das auch :-|. Ich bin ja drin aber nicht so richtig. Gibts ein bruteforce script das meine passwörter durchprobieren kann und selbst derivate herstellt
[17:37] <setra> ich habe ja quasi das passwort so irgendwie, aber Gross und Kleinschreibung, Unterstriche udgl. sind warscheinlich falsch oder an der falschen Stelle. Oder ich wurde gehäggt?
[17:48] <setra> oxymor00n, wenn ich hinfahre und physischen zugang bekomme, kann ich dann via init=/bin/bash das password ändern?
[18:06] <dreamon_> Guten Abend. Würde gerne https://code.google.com/p/mdb2odb/ laufen lassen. Leider geht das deb nicht wegen Abhängigkeiten.
[18:06] <kubine> dreamon_: Title: mdb2odb - A GTK+ utility to export MS Access databases to OpenOffice.org - Google Project Hosting (at code.google.com)
[18:09] <dreamon_> Der source-code enthält → applications, mdb2odbgui.py,ui,DialogFileOpenSave.py,mdb2odbgui.pyc, unobase.py,doc,locale,mdb2odb.py,unobase.pyc,gf,mdb2odb,mdb.py
[18:10] <oxymor00n> setra: sorry hab kurz weg müssen. Jo das müsst gehen, / musst halt rw remounten (mount -o remount,rw oder so war das). Hab das aber ewig schon nimmer gemacht...
[18:11] <oxymor00n> vllt. kann ja wer dazu was sagen der irgendwie mehr sysadmin-mäßig macht?
[18:59] <zeroC> welches programm laed eigentlich automatisch die hdds bei ubuntu desktop? (ich wuerde die lieber in die /etc/fstab eintragen)
[19:00] <ppq> zeroC, mach das doch einfach. dann werden sie von deiner desktopumgebung ignoriert.
[19:01] <zeroC> ppq: naja, ich wuerd den daemon auch gern deaktivieren/deinstallieren, oder ist das eher schlecht
[19:01] <ppq> ich weiß nicht, ob das möglich ist, ohne sich die ganze DE zu zerschießen. sehe aber auch den sinn nicht. in die quere kommt's dir ja schließlich nicht
[19:02] <zeroC> hm, oki... :) dann nehm ich das mal so
[19:03] <zeroC> dann trag ich den kram erstmal in die fstab ein
[19:03] <zeroC> und schaue mal weiter
[19:03] <LetoThe2nd> zumindest bei unity werden die auch nicht gemountet, sondern nur angezeigt...
[19:03] <zeroC> danke!
[19:03] <ppq> :)
[19:03] <zeroC> LetoThe2nd: jops, geht hier auch eher darum, das die uuids immmer gleich gemounted werden damit ich die per nfs zur verfuegung stellen kann
[19:03] <LetoThe2nd> für bekannte UUIDs ganz klar fstab
[19:04] <ppq> joa, da ist fstab wohl das beste
[19:05] <zeroC> was ich auch in dem zusammenhang sehr nuetzlich finde
[19:05] <zeroC> lsblk -f
[19:05] <ppq> ja, lsblk ist praktisch
[19:06] <leslay> Nabend zusammen, komme hier irgendwie nicht mehr weiter. Weder Kernel 3.19.0-18, 3.19.0-20 noch 3.19.0-21 laufen bei mir. Kernel 3.19.0-15 läuft. Die Fehlermeldung die ich bekomme ist "Kernel panic - not syncing: No init found. Try passing init= option to kernel". denke mal ich muss in grub den Pfad zur init angeben. Weiß nur leider nicht an welcher Stelle und wie der Pfad normalerweise aussieht..!?
[19:09] <leslay> habe auch einen check mit fsck durchgeführt, der ergeben hat das alles okay ist.
[19:11] <jokrebel> leslay: Zeig mal ein "lsb_release -a" und "uname -a" in NoPasteService bitte.
[19:11] <jokrebel> +einem
[19:12] <jokrebel> !pasten > leslay
[19:12] <kubine> leslay: Nicht selbst geschriebener Text wird im IRC sehr unleserlich und unhandlich. Deshalb sollten mehr als 3 Zeilen immer in einen sogenannten Nopaste-Service wie z.B. http://paste.ubuntu.com/ abgelegt werden. Nach dem Speichern kannst du dann die URL der Seite kopieren und sie statt des Textes hier im Channel posten.
[19:13] <leslay> gerne, http://nopaste.linux-dev.org/?562604
[19:13] <kubine> leslay: Title: Perl Nopaste (at nopaste.linux-dev.org)
[19:24] <jokrebel> leslay: Wo hättest Du denn 3.19.0-18 -20 und -21 her? Ich hab hier (standard) auch nur 3.19.0-15.
[19:25] <bekks> apt-cache policy paketname verrät das seht genau.
[19:25] <bekks> *sehr
[19:35] <leslay_> jokrebel: bitte nochmal hatte kleines browser problem
[19:35] <jokrebel> leslay: Wo hättest Du denn 3.19.0-18 -20 und -21 her? Ich hab hier (standard) auch nur 3.19.0-15.
[19:37] <leslay_> jokrebel: ganz normal aussem software center "linux-image-3.19.0-21-generic (3.19.0-21.21)"
[19:37] <jokrebel> Oh aber ich seh grad dass das ja hier éin 14.04 und kein 15.04 ist
[19:38] <leslay_> ja daran wirds wohl liegen :)
[19:39] * jokrebel muss mal schnell nen anderen Rechner anschmeißen
[19:47] <jokrebel> leslay_: Also auf meinem 15.04 läuft aktuell 3.19.0-16 (wurde aber schon ne zeit kein Update mehr gefahren. ich malch das mal eben.
[19:49] <jokrebel> jo - 3.19.0-21 ist bei der Aktuallisierung dabei.
[19:50] <leslay_> jokrebel: hmm also unter 3.19.0-15 läuft auch eigentlich soweit alles, nur weiß ich nicht wie lange. heut nachmittag lief auch der -18 noch..
[19:51] <leslay_> viele scheinen das problem behoben zu haben indem sie beim bootloader den pfad zur init eingetragen habe.. ich weiß nur leider nicht an welcher stelle oder wie pfad ist..
[19:55] <jokrebel> Da ich nicht genauer weis, was Du für Fehlermeldung hattest und welchen (dubiosen?) Anleitungen du folgst, kann ich Dir dazu momentan (noch) nicht viel sagen. Mein 15.04 ist noch ab updaten auf 3.19.0-21 und noch nicht fertig.
[19:59] <leslay_> jokrebel: Kernel panic - not syncing: no init found. Try passing init=option to kernel. | ist die genaue ausgabe. da steht ja auch quasi man soll die init= option setzen..
[20:02] <bekks> leslay_: Zeig bitte mal ein "apt-cache policy linux-image-generic" in einem Pastebin.
[20:03] <nagetier> leslay_, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/systemd#Boot_loader_configuration
[20:03] <kubine> nagetier: Title: systemd - Ubuntu Wiki (at wiki.ubuntu.com)
[20:03] <leslay_> bekks: http://nopaste.linux-dev.org/?562610
[20:03] <kubine> leslay_: Title: Perl Nopaste (at nopaste.linux-dev.org)
[20:06] <bekks> leslay_: Welcher Kernel ist denn der aktuellste, der bei Dir funktioniert?
[20:07] <leslay_> nagetier: danke sehr, das hab ich gesucht
[20:07] <nagetier> bitte schön
[20:07] <leslay_> bekks: also 3.19.0-15 funktioniert -18 lief zeitweise gibt aber auch mitlerweile diese meldung zurück -21 habe ich heute auch installiert und der gibt auch die meldung aus
[20:08] <bekks> Auch ein Jurist wird https://www.bussgeldkatalog.org/geschwindigkeitsueberschreitung/ nicht wegdiskutieren können ;)
[20:08] <kubine> bekks: Title: ▷ Geschwindigkeitsüberschreitung - Bußgeldkatalog 2015 (at www.bussgeldkatalog.org)
[20:08] <bekks> leslay_: Zeig mal ein ls -lha /boot/ und ein df -h
[20:10] <leslay_> http://nopaste.linux-dev.org/?562611
[20:10] <kubine> leslay_: Title: Perl Nopaste (at nopaste.linux-dev.org)
[20:10] <leslay_> bekks:
[20:11] <jokrebel> leslay_: Mein update auf ..-21 bootet jedenfalls bestens
[20:11] <bekks> leslay_: uname -a sagt, dass du auf -15 bist?
[20:12] <leslay_> bekks: ja
[20:13] <bekks> Dann purge mal den -18 und -21, und installier beide neu, und zeig uns mal die Ausgabe der Installationen.
[20:13] <leslay_> jokrebel: klar, sollte wohl auch in der regel funktionieren, nur bei mir nicht..
[20:18] <jokrebel> jo, würd ich auch erstmal alles größer dem 15er per purge entfernen und dann mal ein "sudo apt update&&sudo apt dist-upgrade" drüberjagen (und vielleicht gleich die komplette Ausgabe NoPasten)
[20:19] <leslay_> bekks: http://nopaste.linux-dev.org/?562717
[20:19] <kubine> leslay_: Title: Perl Nopaste (at nopaste.linux-dev.org)
[20:20] <bekks> Und dann mal booten :)
[20:21] <leslay_> ok, bg
[20:28] <Gamoder_> Hallo allerseits, kann man (Ubuntu 14.04, 64 bit) die Laptop-tastatur komplett deaktivieren?
[20:28] <Gamoder_> Am besten von der Kommandozeile aus - sie ist nämlich kaputt und erzeugt dauernd Tastendrücke, die ich nicht haben will
[20:29] <jokrebel> ausbauen?
[20:29] <Gamoder_> Tasten hab ich schon entfernt, das hilft nicht. Ganz ausbauen will ich nicht, weil dann ist der Laptop ja offen
[20:29] <leslay> bekks: jokrebel also das booten hat schonmal geklappt.. scheinbar sollte man die kernel lieber per Konsole statt software center installieren, allerdings habe ich kein wlan!? hab mal die dmesg log hochgeladen vlt ist da ja was zu sehen? http://nopaste.linux-dev.org/?562727
[20:29] <kubine> leslay: Title: Perl Nopaste (at nopaste.linux-dev.org)
[20:33] <bekks> Es ist völlig wumpe wie du die Pakete installierst, weil im Hintergrund die identischen Aktionen ausgeführt werden.
[20:33] <k1l> Gamoder_: quick and dirty lösung wäre ja einfach laptop aufmachen und das kabel lösen. wäre eventuell auch ein möglicher fehlerpunkt wenn es locker ist
[20:34] <nagetier> Gamoder_, habe das dazu gefunden, ob das funktioniert, kann ich nicht sagen, liest sich aber gut - http://askubuntu.com/questions/160945/is-there-a-way-to-disable-a-laptops-internal-keyboard
[20:34] <kubine> nagetier: Title: Is there a way to disable a laptops internal keyboard? - Ask Ubuntu (at askubuntu.com)
[20:34] <bekks> leslay: Welches WLAN chipset hast du?
[20:34] <leslay> bekks: Intel® Centrino® Wireless-N 2230 (2 x 2) BGN + BT
[20:34] <leslay> müsste es sein
[20:35] <bekks> "Müsste" ist leider nicht genau genug.
[20:35] <nagetier> Gamoder_, oder im BIOS schauen, aber das hattest sicher schon (und ist afaik auch nicht oft vorhanden)
[20:36] <leslay> bekks: steht zumindest im datenblatt. lspci sagt "04:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Wireless 7260 (rev 73)"
[20:41] <Gamoder_> nagetier: danke, hat geholfen
[20:41] <nagetier> sehr schön
[20:41] <Gamoder_> jetzt müsste ich nur noch herausfinden, aber das ist wohl ein hardware-problem, wie man das nervige piepsen beim Booten wegbekommt
[20:41] <bekks> Ins Handbuch gucken.
[20:44] <leslay> bekks: hab grad nochmal geschaut aber en richtiges handbuch gibts leider nicht lediglich ein datenblatt zu diesem modell auf der homepage, da steht "Intel® Centrino® Wireless-N 2230 (2 x 2) BGN + BT"
[20:46] <bekks> lspci ist maßgeblich.
[20:48] <leslay> bekks: ja habe auch online noch ein paar mal "Intel Wireless 7260" gelesen lspci sagt ja auch es wäre dieser Chipsatz
[20:48] <k1l> leslay: mach mal ein lspci (oder evtl lsusb, wenn es intern komisch verkabelt ist) in einen pastebin und pack noch ein "rfkill list" dazu
[20:49] <leslay> k1l: http://nopaste.linux-dev.org/?562739
[20:49] <kubine> leslay: Title: Perl Nopaste (at nopaste.linux-dev.org)
[20:51] <nagetier> Gamoder_, piepsen weil die Tastatur beim Boot Tasten drückt? Wenn ja, würde ich tatsächlich mal versuchen die abzuklemmen.. kann sein dass der Rechner dann aber gar nicht mehr bootet
[20:53] <Gamoder_> naja, booten mit piepsen ist immer noch besser als gar nicht zu booten
[20:53] <Gamoder_> Und ja, weil die Tastatur beim Boot Tasten drückt
[20:54] <k1l> leslay: kannst du mal die "lsmod" in einen paste packen?
[20:55] <leslay> k1l: na klar, http://nopaste.linux-dev.org/?562740
[20:55] <kubine> leslay: Title: Perl Nopaste (at nopaste.linux-dev.org)
[20:57] <k1l> also iwlwifi und iwlmvm sind geladen. das sollte eigentlich passen. rfkill sagt auch nicht, dass das wifi geblockt ist.
[20:57] <leslay> k1l: das sind jetzt aber alles ausgaben von -15 hab das ja wieder gestartet weil -21 hat ja kein inet
[20:57] <k1l> leslay: achso. das ist eher schlecht :)
[20:58] <leslay> ja das dachte ich mir schon
[20:58] <k1l> weil wenn es ja läuft finden wir ja keine fehler :)
[20:59] <leslay> k1l: hmm ja dann boote ich mal wieder 21 und speicher die ausgaben..!?
[20:59] <k1l> jo. pack die einfach in eine datei in deinem homeverzeichnis. dann kannste die in nen pastebin packen, wenn du wieder netz ahst.
[21:00] <k1l> "lspci" "rfkill list" "dmesg" und "lsmod" bitte.
[21:07] <leslay> k1l: http://nopaste.linux-dev.org/?562749 rfkill list hatte komischerweise keine rückgabe
[21:07] <kubine> leslay: Title: Perl Nopaste (at nopaste.linux-dev.org)
[21:07] <k1l> was für eine kiste ist das?
[21:08] <k1l> der lädt keine wlan module (iwlwifi und iwlmvm) weil er wohl die karte gar nicht erst findet
[21:10] <leslay> k1l: na ich weiß auch nicht, unter -15 klappt ja eigentlich alles, schon verrückt
[21:11] <k1l> leslay: ist das nen laptop?
[21:11] <leslay> k1l: Lenovo Thinkpad E540 Edge
[21:11] <k1l> keine möglichkeit das an ein eth kabel zu hängen?
[21:12] <leslay> doch doch, mach das eben muss dafür nur nochmal rebooten mom
[21:21] <leslay> k1l: leider auch kein lan
[21:21] <k1l> leslay: installier mal "linux-generic"
[21:21] <k1l> evtl fehlen dir die header zum aktuellen kernel, die aber gebraucht werden um di emodule zu bauen
[21:22] <leslay> k1l: okay, bin am laden, danach einfach nochmal ausprobieren?
[21:22] <k1l> pack mal die ausgabe vom install in nen pastebin bitte
[21:23] <leslay> k1l: http://nopaste.linux-dev.org/?562750
[21:23] <kubine> leslay: Title: Perl Nopaste (at nopaste.linux-dev.org)
[21:23] <leslay> hat aufjedenfall header installiert
[21:25] <k1l> ja probier nochmal mit dem neuen kernel
[21:29] <leslay> k1l: läuft alles auf -21, vielen dank für deine zeit und die hilfe! :)
[21:30] <k1l> gut :)
[21:30] <leslay> k1l: werden die header files nicht automatisch mit installiert?
[21:30] <k1l> jetzt ja.
[21:31] <leslay> also beim nächsten kernel update sind sie dann dabei?
[21:31] <k1l> das metapaket "linux-generic" installiert immer den neusten kernel und header.
[21:31] <leslay> ok das ist sehr gut zu wissen!
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2024-05-13T22:11:39.534864
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2015-06-16-#ubuntu-uy
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[02:52] <lia> barbanegra andate a la reconcha de tu puta madre, re mal parido, hijo de re 1000 putas
[02:52] <lia> barbanegra saludos
[02:52] <lia> un abrazo desde Argentina
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:39.537577
| 2015-06-16T00:00:00 |
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2015-06-16-#juju-gui
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[07:41] <frankban> mhilton: https://code.launchpad.net/~frankban/canonical-mojo-specs/is-apache2/+merge/262054
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:39.539661
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2015-06-16-#ubuntu-se-mote
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[17:34] <bittin> Hejsan får vi se om det blir möte idag då om 30min ungefär :)
[17:36] <Meerkat> får se?
[17:37] <Meerkat> jag har varit här sedan 09:40 morse för att inte missa mötet. Det SKA bli möte!
[17:50] <bittin> hehe
[17:50] <JoWa> Tappert.
[17:50] <JoWa> Vi är redan fler än förra veckan.
[17:57] <bittin> :)
[18:01] <HakanS> Godkväll och välkomna till mötet.
[18:02] <bittin_> Godkväll
[18:03] <HakanS> Egentligen synd att sitte inne en så fin kväll, men vad gör man inte.
[18:04] <JoWa> Finns det något bättre än ett IRC-möte?
[18:04] <JoWa> Förgyller vilken kväll som helst.
[18:04] <GunnarHj> +1
[18:05] <HakanS> Vi drar igång.
[18:05] <HakanS> 1. Val av mötesordförande och protokollförare
[18:05] <HakanS> Förslag.
[18:05] <bittin_> skönt med 2 skärmar möte på ena, E3 på den andra :)
[18:06] <GunnarHj> Föreslår HakanS och JoWa.
[18:06] <HakanS> Godtas förslaget?
[18:06] <JoWa> Jo.
[18:07] <HakanS> +1
[18:07] <bittin_> +1
[18:07] <GunnarHj> +1
[18:07] <morpa_> japp
[18:08] <HakanS> Då går vi vidare till nästa punkt.
[18:08] <HakanS> 2. Protokoll från förra mötet
[18:08] <HakanS> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SwedishTeam/M%C3%B6te/IRCM%C3%B6te41/Protokoll
[18:09] <HakanS> Jag har inget att anmärka.
[18:09] <GunnarHj> Inga invändningar mot protokollet här heller.
[18:09] <bittin_> står fel datum för nästa möte
[18:09] <bittin_> annars ser allt bra ut :)
[18:09] <GunnarHj> bittin_: Det var rätt datum då...
[18:10] <HakanS> Kan vi godkänna protokollet?
[18:10] <HakanS> +1
[18:10] <bittin_> +1
[18:10] <JoWa> +1
[18:10] <GunnarHj> +1
[18:10] <morpa_> +1
[18:10] <HakanS> 3. Rapporter
[18:11] <HakanS> Något från översättningen?
[18:12] <morpa_> Översättarfronten: inget speciellt, det går långsamt framåt. Önskar att fler var involverade men det verkar svalt med intresset.
[18:12] <morpa_> Själv tar jag en paus i höst.
[18:13] <HakanS> morpa_: Finns det någon naturlig "arvtagare"?
[18:13] <GunnarHj> morpa_: Hur länge tror du din "paus" kommer att vara?
[18:13] <morpa_> Men vi ligger bra till på listan över översatta språk, har passerat Turkiet!
[18:15] <morpa_> Nja, inte direkt, men vi får väl se om någon plockar upp handsken..
[18:15] <HakanS> Bra jobbat.
[18:15] <morpa_> Pausar nog ett halvår ca, men vi får se, kanske blir det mer, kanske mindre.
[18:16] <morpa_> så summering: långsamt framåt, men det skulle inte skada med fler involverade:)
[18:17] <johanre> Hej, ursäkta förseningen....
[18:17] <HakanS> johanre: Ingen fara.
[18:17] <HakanS> Då kan vi ta nästa punkt, som faktiskt ligger på Johan.
[18:17] <GunnarHj> morpa_: Ok. Jag har två tankar: Dels nästa LTS (16.04), dels Unity 8. Misstänker att det inte kommer att tillkomma så mycket Ubuntu-specifikt beträffande Unity 7. Unity 8 är väldigt oklart för mig.
[18:18] <HakanS> Wikin - Johanre
[18:18] <johanre> Wikin: är nerstängd sen ett tag tillbaka.
[18:21] <HakanS> Bra Johan
[18:21] <HakanS> Efterlysningen av forumadministratör - HakanS
[18:22] <HakanS> Jag ser inte att vi har något akut behov av fler administratörer. Vad säger du Johan?
[18:23] <johanre> Både ja och nej, jag känner att jag inte alltid vill vara flaskhalsen
[18:24] <HakanS> johanre: Kan du lägga ut en efterlysning? Du vet ju bäst vad som krävs av en admin.
[18:26] <johanre> Samtidigt är det allt tydligare att folk i allmänhet har svårt att prioritera ideellt engagemang. Jag märker det väldigt tydligt inom både friidrotten, konståkningen och fotbollen som mina barn håller på med.
[18:26] <johanre> Jag efterlyste folk för ca. 1 år sedan. Fick ett svar an en person som inte hade sysslat med systemadministration innan. Då är det svårt...
[18:26] <johanre> Men visst, jag kan prova igen. :-)
[18:27] <JoWa> Jo, ideellt engagemang blir alltmer en bristvara.
[18:28] <HakanS> Ja, det är tyvärr svårt att hitta rätt person.
[18:28] <HakanS> Nåsta punkt.
[18:28] <HakanS> Förtydliga IRC-instruktionerna - HakanS
[18:28] <Meerkat> johanre, det var antagligen jag. Jag har jobbat på med erfarenhet inom området sen dess.
[18:28] <bittin_> jag är eventuellt intresserad att sysopa beroende på vad man ska göra
[18:28] <bittin_> :p
[18:29] <bittin_> och hur lång tid det brukar ta
[18:29] <johanre> OK, Meerkat & bittin: vi kan snacka mer sen. :-)
[18:29] <bittin_> sounds like a plan
[18:30] <HakanS> Jag har tyvärr missat att förtydliga IRC-instruktionerna.
[18:32] <HakanS> 4. Att göra-lista
[18:32] <HakanS> http://ubuntu-se.org/drupal/node/3955
[18:33] <GunnarHj> Ang. "smartare support", tycker jag att detta verkar intressant:
[18:33] <GunnarHj> http://ubuntu-se.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=481350#p481350
[18:33] <GunnarHj> Någon som kan bedöma om det skulle kunna vara användbart?
[18:37] <johanre> Ja, detta är bra! Men samtidigt måste vederbörande som söker hjälp vara villig att låta någon annan ta kontroll över sin dator. Det kan vara läskigt om man bara har "träffats" via ett internetforum...
[18:37] <GunnarHj> Jo, så är det förstås. Blir nog aktuellt bara om något slags förtroende kunnat byggas upp innan.
[18:39] <GunnarHj> För övrigt så är ju de flesta punkterna på listan stora projekt, som för ögonblicket förefaller oss övermäktiga.
[18:40] <HakanS> Ja, jag tycker det räcker med dessa. I alla fram till efter sommaren.
[18:41] <johanre> IOFS, den första punkten anser jag vara "min" :-)
[18:42] <GunnarHj> johanre: Ja, den kanske rentav började lösas under mötet. ;)
[18:42] <johanre> :D
[18:43] <HakanS> 5. Välkomnande av LoCo-medlemmar
[18:43] <GunnarHj> Jag skrev ner mina enkla tankar i forumet:
[18:43] <GunnarHj> http://ubuntu-se.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=481206#p481206
[18:43] <GunnarHj> Så jag undrar hur det fungerar idag och skulle vilja diskutera eventuella förbättringar.
[18:46] <GunnarHj> Antar att HakanS och/eller JoWa vet...
[18:47] <JoWa> Min inblandning har varit minimal.
[18:49] <GunnarHj> Vad säger ni om att utforma något slags standardbrev, där nya medlemmar välkomnas, och där man pekar på några olika möjliga sätt att bidra?
[18:49] <morpa_> Kanske borde det förbereda ett mail som kan skickas ut, med lite info o förslag på saker att engagera sig i
[18:49] <HakanS> Så här har jag skrivit i samband med att personer har godkänts i launchpad-gruppen:
[18:49] <morpa_> (kan infoga att för översättarteamet går det alltid ut ett mail till nya som ansöker om medlemskap)
[18:49] <HakanS> "Välkommen till Ubuntu Sverige
[18:49] <HakanS> Vår hemsida hittar du på www.ubuntu-se.org
[18:49] <HakanS> För att få veta mer om vad som är på gång och vad du kan engagera dig i,
[18:49] <HakanS> finns våran wiki på https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SwedishTeam
[18:49] <HakanS> Varmt välkommen till Ubuntu Sverige"
[18:51] <johanre> Jag måste tyvärr vidare och hämta nästa barn. Sitter kvar inloggad men kommer inte kunna svara. Tack för idag! Meerkat & bittin: jag hör av mig till er.
[18:51] <GunnarHj> Ok, tack HakanS. Då tycker jag det känns som att det finns utrymme för förbättringar.
[18:52] <bittin_> måste också börja röra mig men johanre hör av dig på forumet så blir det bra
[18:52] <bittin_> kollar loggarna och protokollet senare :)
[18:52] <GunnarHj> Tror det behöver vara mer konkret med exempel, inte bara hänvisningar till mer eller mindre uppdaterade webbsidor.
[18:54] <GunnarHj> HakanS: Jag hjälper gärna till att skissa på något.
[18:56] <HakanS> Bra Gunnar. Hjälp mottages tacksamt.
[18:57] <HakanS> Måst också avvika nu.
[18:57] <GunnarHj> HakanS: Jag hör av mig.
[18:57] <HakanS> Ska vi boka in nästa möte?
[18:57] <bittin_> det tycker jag
[18:58] <morpa_> +1
[18:58] <morpa_> Augusti?
[18:58] <bittin_> funkar för mig beroende på datum och tid
[18:59] <GunnarHj> 25/8 20.00?
[18:59] <bittin_> +1
[18:59] <HakanS> Funkar bra.
[18:59] <JoWa> Väl valt datum. ;-)
[18:59] <GunnarHj> Tack! :)
[19:00] <JoWa> Kommer Linus?
[19:00] <HakanS> Jag tackar för mig nu.
[19:00] <GunnarHj> Va?? Vad det hans namnsdag?
[19:01] <GunnarHj> (framgår inte av min Evolution-kalender)
[19:01] <bittin_> ne det är 26:e November :P
[19:01] <bittin_> och födelsedag 28:e December
[19:01] <bittin_> :p
[19:01] <bittin_> så fattade inte heller det där
[19:01] <JoWa> Gissningstävling. :-P
[19:02] <GunnarHj> Ok, i Håkans frånvaro: Finns det några övriga frågor?
[19:03] <JoWa> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_kernel#History
[19:03] <GunnarHj> Aha, där kom förklaringen. :)
[19:04] <GunnarHj> Är vi redo att avsluta mötet?
[19:04] <JoWa> Ja.
[19:04] <GunnarHj> Slut.
[19:05] <GunnarHj> Önskar alla som är kvar en trevlig sommar!
[19:05] <JoWa> Trevlig sommar!
[19:08] <morpa_> Ha det gott och tuxigt!
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2024-05-13T22:11:39.553547
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"GunnarHj",
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"morpa_"
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2015-06-16-#ubuntu-bugs
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[08:42] <kyr0> Good morning everyone.
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:39.556084
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2015-06-16-#cloud-init
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[00:32] <anotheral> hey can anyone help me figure out why my cloud-config isn't working?
[00:33] <anotheral> /var/lib/cloud/instances/i-dca1cb75/user-data.txt has base64-encoded text
[00:33] <anotheral> that decodes to a #cloud-config file
[13:19] <smoser> anotheral, it shouldnt be base64 encoded there.
[14:53] <Odd_Bloke> smoser: I'd like to submit a talk to LinuxCon Europe/CloudOpen Europe (they're running at the same time in the same place); I was thinking that cloud-init 2.0 would be a good topic.
[14:53] <Odd_Bloke> smoser: Would you be able to help me craft a talk proposal?
[14:57] <smoser> sure
[16:36] <Odd_Bloke> smoser: CFP ends tomorrow; I'll try and come up with something tomorrow morning, and we can maybe discuss it on/just after the 2.0 call?
[16:36] <Odd_Bloke> smoser: (I've fixed the tests on that CloudStack MP)
[16:36] <smoser> ok
[16:41] <smoser> Odd_Bloke, pulled
[16:42] <Odd_Bloke> smoser: Thank you, sir.
[16:43] <Odd_Bloke> I'll look at backporting it tomorrow also.
[16:44] <Odd_Bloke> smoser: Are you able to add all the releases back to precise as targets on https://bugs.launchpad.net/cloud-init/+bug/1464253 ?
[16:45] <smoser> oh. you marked that security.
[16:46] <smoser> why is that different then the non-security one ?
[16:46] <smoser> (i had thought it was the cpc bug or something)
[16:46] <Odd_Bloke> smoser: The other bug is actually about doing it every boot (which I don't think we want to be the default).
[16:46] <smoser> oh. i see.
[16:46] <Odd_Bloke> smoser: Someone just noted the security issue in the comments of that bug.
[16:47] <smoser> well, why idd you mark 'fixes'
[16:47] <smoser> which made me mark fixes ;)
[16:47] <Odd_Bloke> >.<
[16:48] <Odd_Bloke> Apologies.
[16:48] <Odd_Bloke> Wasn't it easier when I use git-bzr-ng and couldn't use --fixes at all. ;)
[16:56] <Odd_Bloke> smoser: Do you mind if I assign doing the devel release to you?
[17:00] <smoser> context ?
[17:00] <Odd_Bloke> smoser: The release of that security fix in to wily.
[18:05] <jgarr> I have a redhat atomic host I'm trying to run subscription-manager register on via runcmd but it doesn't appear to run and there's no output in /var/log/cloud-init.log (debug: true is set)
[18:06] <jgarr> other commands in runcmd work though. Is there a way I can tell cloud-init to parse a user-data file again so I can see it run and try to debug it?
[18:08] <jgarr> running the command manually after the system is booted works without issue
[18:33] <ByPasS> alexpilotti : Hi there, smoser told me yesterday you might have a better idea for my issue, any chance you being around ?
[18:46] <smoser> jgarr, runcmd stuff is run in 2 parts.
[18:50] <smoser> jgarr, so.. the first part, writes /var/lib/cloud/instance/scripts/runcmd from what it finds in user-data
[18:50] <smoser> so you can check to see that you have that file
[18:52] <smoser> that part is the 'runcmd' config job. it can be regenerated by:
[18:52] <smoser> cloud-init single --name=runcmd --frequency=always
[18:53] <smoser> the second part is in scripts_user
[18:53] <smoser> and it actually executes (via run-parts style) all programs in /var/lib/cloud/instance/scripts/runcmd
[18:53] <smoser> that can be executed:
[18:54] <smoser> cloud-init single --name=scripts_user --frequency=always
[20:59] <jgarr> smoser: thanks a ton for that. I'll look at my host and see what I have
[21:23] <anotheral> smoser: i removed the base64 encoding, but it still doesn't set the hostname
[22:20] <jgarr> smoser: sure enough. the runcmd file doesn't exist. runing cloud-init single doesn't generate it either. Now to figure out why
[22:20] <jgarr> may be helpful to say I'm also doing this on hardware with --append"ds=nocloud\;seedfrom=/var/cloud-init/" and then putting meta-data and user-data in /var/cloud-init/
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[19:56] <ibeardslee> morning
[21:18] <olly> morning
[21:36] <atamira> good morning
[21:36] <atamira> such a beautiful day up here in auckland today
[21:42] <ibeardslee> pretty lovely in wellington as well
[21:47] <chilts> but cold
[21:47] <chilts> better lovely and cold, than warm and wet though
[21:47] <chilts> go on, take that out of context! :)
[22:08] <ibeardslee> I'd rather be lovely and warm with the sun on my face, a nice cold beer in my hand, a book in my other hand, some gentle music in the background and my cat on my lap.
[22:27] <mwhudson> morning
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2015-06-16-#ubuntu-meeting
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[16:00] <arosales> zul, looks like you chaired last week correct?
[16:01] <smoser> o/
[16:01] <teward> o/
[16:01] <jamespage> o/
[16:01] <smb> o/
[16:01] <hallyn> \o
[16:01] <matsubara> o/
[16:01] * arosales guessing zul chaired last week and its my turn
[16:01] <hallyn> then zul didn't update the page
[16:02] <caribou> o/
[16:02] <arosales> #startmeeting ubuntu-server-team
[16:02] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Jun 16 16:02:18 2015 UTC. The chair is arosales. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
[16:02] <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick
[16:02] <beisner> o/
[16:02] <arosales> #topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting
[16:02] * arosales doesn't see any action items from the previous meeting
[16:02] <arosales> #topic Vivid Development
[16:03] <arosales> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WilyWerewolf/ReleaseSchedule
[16:03] <arosales> #info Alpha 1 coming up June 25
[16:03] <coreycb> o/
[16:03] <arosales> #subtopic Release Bugs
[16:04] <arosales> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-w-tracking-bug-tasks.html#ubuntu-server
[16:04] * arosales trying to pull up http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-w-tracking-bug-tasks.html#ubuntu-server . . .
[16:04] <arosales> is that URL working for others?
[16:04] <teward> arosales: site death perhaps, the white page of death
[16:04] <teward> oh wait
[16:05] <rharper> \o
[16:05] <teward> nope
[16:05] <teward> wpod, still, arosales
[16:05] <teward> i think it's down
[16:05] <arosales> just whit page for me
[16:05] <caribou> wpod for me
[16:05] <arosales> *white
[16:05] <beisner> :-/ 0k file
[16:05] <teward> arosales: codenamed: "White Page Of Death" - WPOD
[16:05] <teward> contact canonical sysadmins for fixing?
[16:05] <rharper> beisner: indeed
[16:05] <arosales> teward, ack, WPOD it seems
[16:05] <arosales> rharper, can you take that action?
[16:06] <rharper> arosales: sure
[16:06] <arosales> #action rharper to follow up with canonical sysadmins on http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-w-tracking-bug-tasks.html#ubuntu-server WPOD
[16:06] <meetingology> ACTION: rharper to follow up with canonical sysadmins on http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-w-tracking-bug-tasks.html#ubuntu-server WPOD
[16:06] <arosales> thanks rharper
[16:06] <arosales> any bugs folks would like to discuss before moving on
[16:07] <arosales> I'll take it folks are ready for BPs then
[16:07] <arosales> . . .
[16:07] <arosales> #subtopic Blueprints
[16:07] <arosales> #link http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-w/group/topic-w-server.html
[16:07] <arosales> http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-w/group/topic-w-server.html not working for me either today
[16:08] <teward> arosales: confirmed, 404.
[16:08] <arosales> we have http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-w/group/topic-w-openstack.html
[16:08] <arosales> but not server
[16:08] <arosales> rharper, smoser: do you guys have a topic BP?
[16:09] <smoser> checking. i dont think we probably do.
[16:10] <smoser> or i do not think we do
[16:10] <matsubara> arosales, http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-w/canonical-server.html and http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-w/ubuntu-server.html might give a better overview of server BPs
[16:10] <matsubara> since the topic url is not working...
[16:11] <arosales> matsubara, ok, do folks agree here we should update the meeting commands to these links?
[16:11] * matsubara doesn't really know what's more appropriate in this case
[16:11] <arosales> #action smoser update Topic blueprint URLs, if necessary
[16:11] <meetingology> ACTION: smoser update Topic blueprint URLs, if necessary
[16:12] <arosales> #link http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-w/canonical-server.html
[16:12] <arosales> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-w-openstack-liberty progressing
[16:13] <arosales> sorry
[16:13] <arosales> #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-w-openstack-liberty
[16:13] <arosales> #link http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-w/ubuntu-server.html
[16:13] <arosales> same blueprint there
[16:14] <arosales> and as said before servercloud-w-openstack-liberty is progressing
[16:14] <arosales> but seems there should be some other BPs there . . .
[16:14] <arosales> smoser, jamespage need to follow up if the correct BPs are linked ^
[16:15] <arosales> perhaps because https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/topic-w-server is blank atm ?
[16:15] <arosales> #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/topic-w-server
[16:15] <arosales> in any case an action item is made to follow up.
[16:16] <arosales> Ping here if folks have any BPs items they would like to surface
[16:16] <arosales> . . .
[16:16] <arosales> moving on
[16:16] <arosales> #topic Server & Cloud Bugs (caribou)
[16:16] <caribou> nothing major to me; mostly done with rsyslog merge
[16:16] <arosales> caribou, thanks for the update
[16:16] <arosales> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (matsubara)
[16:16] <matsubara> arosales, nothing new to report
[16:17] <arosales> matsubara, ok, thanks
[16:17] <arosales> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb, sforshee, arges)
[16:17] <smb> I have nothing today if nobody else has anything.
[16:17] <arosales> any questions for smb (kernel)?
[16:17] <arosales> . . .
[16:17] <arosales> #topic Ubuntu Server Team Events
[16:18] <arosales> If any folks are interested in Spark. I am currently at Spark Summit and we'll be hosting an even tonight
[16:18] <arosales> https://insights.ubuntu.com/event/big-data-mine-and-mingle/
[16:18] <arosales> sorry
[16:18] <arosales> #link https://insights.ubuntu.com/event/big-data-mine-and-mingle/
[16:18] <arosales> any others?
[16:18] <arosales> . . .
[16:18] <arosales> #topic Open Discussion
[16:18] <arosales> other items?
[16:18] <teward> i think there's a missing item
[16:19] <teward> which agenda page are you using, the ServerTeam/Meeting one?
[16:19] <arosales> teward, using https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/Meeting/IRCCommands
[16:19] <arosales> linked from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/Meeting
[16:19] <arosales> teward, was there another topic?
[16:19] <teward> arosales: there's an item on the Agenda page added by me, and I'd like Server Team input on the course of action
[16:19] <teward> arosales: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/Meeting - NGINX in Ubuntu: Course of Action discussion (teward)
[16:20] <teward> popped on in the middle of last week
[16:20] <arosales> teward, ahh, sorry for missing that
[16:20] <teward> perhaps it was missed?
[16:20] <teward> no problem :)
[16:20] <arosales> #link https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-server/2015-June/007072.html
[16:21] <teward> Previously, up until now, Debian was using a Stable branch of the NGINX web server's code as the package base.
[16:21] <teward> Recently, based on what they do with Debian release times as far as I can gather, they're now using an NGINX Mainline branch, which is their feature-development branch.
[16:22] <teward> Further questions on that branch can be directed to LinuxJedi who is here currently, and is a Senior Developer Advocate for the nginx upstream people
[16:22] <LinuxJedi> o/
[16:22] <teward> Currently, as of 15.04, we are using the Stable branch of NGINX in Ubuntu, which is mirroring Debian's choice of package versions. However, following them will have Wily get 1.9.1 currently, which will likely remain that way through next LTS
[16:23] <teward> While both versions are 'stable' enough to be used in production environments, and indeed I do have a couple Mainline nginx versions running in production, that is a changing development branch, replete with new features.
[16:23] <teward> 1.8.x is the NGINX Stable branch, which receives critical bug fixes and security updates but forgoes the additional features.
[16:24] <hallyn> you expect a stable branch of the current devel branch by 16.02 ?
[16:24] <teward> hallyn: from what LinuxJedi has told me, such release (1.10.x) will be very near or after FinalFreeze or release date for LTS
[16:24] <hallyn> that's unfortunate :)
[16:25] <LinuxJedi> but there shouldn't be much change from 1.9.x to 1.10.0 at that stage
[16:25] <teward> they release the 'mainline' as stable in April, and judging by the last release date, April 21, on or near that date would put us really close to release date
[16:25] <hallyn> but if we could get a 1.10.alpha1 that might be good. i assume the stable releases will be supported much longer than devel
[16:25] <hallyn> i think it's worth asking the release time for best option there
[16:26] <teward> To finish my initial thought stream: I'd like the Server Team to provide some guidance for Wily, as to how we proceed
[16:26] <hallyn> hm, no rbasak today
[16:26] <teward> A merge of 1.9.1 wouldn't take too long. Merging in changes from Debian's packaging and merging that with 1.8.x is doable by myself, but would diverge from the standard process of getting packaging from Debian
[16:27] <hallyn> you already emailed ubntu-server about this right?
[16:27] <teward> hallyn: indeed. I did ask Seth Arnold (sarnold) for his opinions, he responded to the email thread on the server mailing list
[16:27] <smoser> teward, well, the questions hallyn asked apply for wily as well as x (16.04)
[16:27] <hallyn> right,
[16:27] <teward> hallyn: the email link that arosales posted.
[16:27] <teward> smoser: indeed.
[16:27] <teward> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-server/2015-June/007072.html
[16:27] <smoser> we dont want to move forward in wily if we would then have to move back.
[16:27] <hallyn> i'd follow sarnold's guidance :)
[16:27] <hallyn> teward: how long do you expect 1.9 to be supported?
[16:27] <LinuxJedi> it is worth noting that useful LTS features such as HTTP/2 will be in 1.10
[16:27] <teward> hallyn: doing so would place us on 1.9.x.
[16:28] <teward> hallyn: until 1.10.x release in April, I believe. LinuxJedi: that's the upstream support period, if I'm not mistaken?
[16:28] <LinuxJedi> correct
[16:28] <hallyn> teward: i'm wondering whehter we can put things in place now to take 1.9 now, and have process ready to take 1.10 as an exceptional sru in 16.05
[16:28] <hallyn> or, again,
[16:29] <hallyn> ask upstream for a alpha or beta release in feb or march of 2016
[16:29] <smoser> hallyn is right. this is not significantly different then what we do for openstack.
[16:29] <smoser> or at least possibly not much different
[16:29] <rharper> if 1.9.x isn't far apart from 1.10.0, why wouldn't 1.9 have the http2 and other features we'd want in the LTS?
[16:29] <LinuxJedi> it will
[16:29] <hallyn> not htat we want it to become the norm :) but in 2019 we'll likely be wishing we'd done it
[16:30] <hallyn> rharper: it's just that 1.9 likely won't be supported for 5 years upstream, so a stable would be nicer for 16.04
[16:30] <teward> rharper: provided Debian has it uploaded and available, I'd rather *not* have to do manual source version merges by hand, although I do so for the PPAs already provided under ~nginx on Launchpad
[16:30] <LinuxJedi> 1.9.x is mainline where new features are added. 1.10.0 will be the end release of the 1.9.x series
[16:30] <rharper> right, the support from upstream
[16:30] <rharper> teward: and the package maint;
[16:31] <hallyn> teward: ok, let's see if rbasak is willing to take this to release team, if not i'll volunteer ,t ocome up with options
[16:31] <LinuxJedi> we have odd numbers for mainline and even numbers for stable. And only one odd and one even maintained at any time (so currently 1.8 and 1.9 are maintained)
[16:31] <hallyn> ok how long will 1.10 be supported?
[16:31] <LinuxJedi> until 1.12
[16:31] <hallyn> which is when
[16:31] <teward> hallyn: ack
[16:31] <teward> hallyn: april 2017
[16:31] <hallyn> nyears
[16:31] <hallyn> hm
[16:31] <LinuxJedi> 1 year
[16:31] <hallyn> so tha'ts not much of an extra cushion
[16:32] <hallyn> so we really want an MRE here or something
[16:32] <teward> hallyn: MRE was considered in the past but we have a weird exception:
[16:32] <teward> nginx-core is in main, the other flavors are in Universe, because of third party modules
[16:32] <teward> and security team suggestions/recommendations during the MIR
[16:32] <teward> (back for 14.04)
[16:32] <hallyn> ok i'll need to go read the MIR comments then
[16:33] <hallyn> (assuming rbasak doesn't handle it :)
[16:33] <teward> hallyn: i think the MRE discussion wasn't on the MIR, and was handled after the fact
[16:33] <hallyn> teward: do you have links? can you send them in a reply to sarnold's email?
[16:33] <hallyn> (bc i haven't got the thread to reply to)
[16:33] <teward> hallyn: to the discussions? I could try and find the irclogs links, but I think my discussions with rbasak on that were in private
[16:33] <hallyn> oh, ok
[16:33] <hallyn> np
[16:34] <teward> the MIR was https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nginx/+bug/1262710
[16:34] <hallyn> arosales: can you post an action for me to follow up (email rbasak etc)?
[16:34] <arosales> #action hallyn to see if rbasak is willing to take this (nginx version in 15.10 and looking to 16.04) to release team, if not hallyn to volunteer, to come up with options
[16:34] <meetingology> ACTION: hallyn to see if rbasak is willing to take this (nginx version in 15.10 and looking to 16.04) to release team, if not hallyn to volunteer, to come up with options
[16:34] <hallyn> thx
[16:34] <arosales> thanks hallyn
[16:34] <smoser> thank you teward
[16:34] <teward> you're welcome, and thank you all for your time on this :)
[16:34] <arosales> teward, and LinuxJedi thanks for bringing up this topic
[16:35] <LinuxJedi> no problem
[16:35] <arosales> any other items to discuss?
[16:35] <teward> arosales: you're welcome, thank you to the Server Team for taking the time to discuss.
[16:35] <arosales> teward, np thats what this meeting is for. Sorry for missing your agenda item :-/
[16:35] <teward> arosales: mistakes happen, no worries :0
[16:35] <teward> :) *
[16:36] <arosales> #topic Announce next meeting date, time and chair
[16:36] <arosales> #info chair = hallyn per the list
[16:36] <hallyn> woohoo
[16:36] <arosales> #info NEXT MEETING: Tuesday 2015-06-23 at 1600 UTC
[16:36] <arosales> thanks everyone
[16:36] <arosales> #endmeeting
[16:36] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Jun 16 16:36:55 2015 UTC.
[16:36] <meetingology> Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2015/ubuntu-meeting.2015-06-16-16.02.moin.txt
[16:37] <teward> thanks, all.
[16:37] <teward> thanks LinuxJedi for taking the time out of your schedule to be here :)
[16:37] <LinuxJedi> no problem. If you need me for any followups feel free to shoot me a message or email :)
[16:37] <teward> LinuxJedi: will do, thanks again.
[16:37] <teward> and thanks, arosales, and server team.
[17:00] <jsalisbury> #startmeeting
[17:00] <jsalisbury> ##
[17:00] <jsalisbury> ## This is the Ubuntu Kernel Team weekly status meeting.
[17:00] <jsalisbury> ##
[17:00] <jsalisbury> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Meeting
[17:00] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Jun 16 17:00:02 2015 UTC. The chair is jsalisbury. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
[17:00] <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick
[17:00] <jsalisbury> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Wily
[17:00] <jsalisbury> # Meeting Etiquette
[17:00] <jsalisbury> #
[17:00] <jsalisbury> # NOTE: '..' indicates that you are finished with your input.
[17:00] <jsalisbury> # 'o/' indicates you have something to add (please wait until you are recognized)
[17:00] <jsalisbury> Roll Call for Ubuntu Kernel Weekly Status Meeting
[17:00] <bjf> o/
[17:00] <henrix> o/
[17:00] <ogasawara> o/
[17:00] <arges> i/
[17:00] <sforshee> o/
[17:00] <smb> o/
[17:01] <cking> o/
[17:01] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Release Metrics and Incoming Bugs (jsalisbury)
[17:01] <jsalisbury> Release metrics and incoming bug data can be reviewed at the following link:
[17:01] <jsalisbury> [LINK] http://kernel.ubuntu.com/reports/kt-meeting.txt
[17:01] <jsalisbury> ..
[17:01] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Status: Wily Development Kernel (ogasawara)
[17:01] <ogasawara> Our wily kernel remains rebased on 4.0.5. We have uploaded but are
[17:01] <ogasawara> planning to land some additional config changes before we have the
[17:01] <ogasawara> kernel promoted out of wily-proposed. Stay tuned. We have also moved
[17:01] <ogasawara> to tracking 4.1-rc8 on our master branch in
[17:01] <ogasawara> git://kernel.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/unstable.git . We will plan to rebase
[17:01] <ogasawara> Wily to 4.1 final once available.
[17:01] <ppisati> o/
[17:01] <ogasawara> -----
[17:01] <ogasawara> Important upcoming dates:
[17:01] <ogasawara> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WilyWerewolf/ReleaseSchedule
[17:01] <ogasawara> Thurs June 25 - Alpha 1 (~1 week away)
[17:01] <ogasawara> Thurs July 30 - Alpha 2 (~6 weeks away)
[17:01] <ogasawara> ..
[17:02] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Status: CVE's
[17:02] <jsalisbury> The current CVE status can be reviewed at the following link:
[17:02] <jsalisbury> [LINK] http://kernel.ubuntu.com/reports/kernel-cves.html
[17:02] <jsalisbury> ..
[17:02] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Status: Stable, Security, and Bugfix Kernel Updates - Precise/Trusty/Utopic/Vivid (bjf)
[17:02] <bjf> Status for the main kernels, until today:
[17:02] <bjf> * Precise - Prep
[17:02] <bjf> * Trusty - Prep
[17:02] <bjf> * Utopic - Prep
[17:02] <bjf> * Vivid - Prep
[17:02] <bjf>
[17:02] <bjf> Current opened tracking bugs details:
[17:02] <bjf> * http://kernel.ubuntu.com/sru/kernel-sru-workflow.html
[17:02] <bjf> For SRUs, SRU report is a good source of information:
[17:02] <bjf> * http://kernel.ubuntu.com/sru/sru-report.html
[17:02] <bjf>
[17:02] <bjf>
[17:02] <bjf> Schedule:
[17:02] <bjf>
[17:02] <bjf> cycle: 13-Jun through 04-Jul
[17:02] <bjf> [17:02] <bjf> 12-Jun Last day for kernel commits for this cycle
[17:02] <bjf> 14-Jun - 20-Jun Kernel prep week.
[17:02] <bjf> 21-Jun - 04-Jul Bug verification; Regression testing; Release
[17:02] <bjf> ..
[17:03] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Open Discussion or Questions? Raise your hand to be recognized (o/)
[17:03] <jsalisbury> Thanks everyone
[17:03] <jsalisbury> #endmeeting
[17:03] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Jun 16 17:03:42 2015 UTC.
[17:03] <meetingology> Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2015/ubuntu-meeting.2015-06-16-17.00.moin.txt
[20:03] <elacheche_anis> wxl, ping
[20:03] <lunapersa> hello wxl
[20:04] <wxl> wazzup folks
[20:06] <elacheche_anis> good wxl u?
[20:06] <elacheche_anis> don't( you have a meeting tonight?
[20:06] <wxl> hanging in there
[20:06] <wxl> busy at work
[20:06] <wxl> yeah in 2 hrs
[20:06] <wxl> loco council
[20:07] <elacheche_anis> 2 hours!!
[20:08] <elacheche_anis> in the Fridge's calander it's for 8pm GMT..
[20:08] <wxl> well maybe i got my thing wrong i don't know
[20:09] <elacheche_anis> x) :)
[20:10] <lunapersa> :/
[20:11] <elacheche_anis> :d
[20:11] <elacheche_anis> :D
[20:12] <wxl> not sure why i have it in at 3
[20:12] <wxl> weird
[20:24] <wxl> nope no meeting
[20:24] <wxl> yay
[20:24] <wxl> back to work :)
[20:26] <lunapersa> ok wxl :)
[20:40] <elacheche_anis> lucky wxl :D :p
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2015-06-16-#ubuntu-tn
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[11:22] <Neo31> hello world :)
[11:22] * Neo31 is back :)
[11:22] <Neo31> ahla Na3iL
[11:22] <Neo31> elacheche, mizilt tetnaffass ?
[11:23] <elacheche> Happy that you're finally here Neo31 :) Yep.. I just finished my exams..
[11:23] <elacheche> How are you?
[11:23] <Neo31> coool
[11:23] <Neo31> mella jaw
[11:24] <Neo31> :)
[11:24] <Neo31> hmd
[11:24] <Neo31> still alive elacheche :p
[11:24] <elacheche> :)
[11:24] <Neo31> n9ouloulik mabrouk soon inchalah elacheche ?
[11:24] <Neo31> :)
[11:24] <elacheche> 3la chnouwa!!
[11:24] <elacheche> x)
[11:26] <Neo31> exams
[11:26] <elacheche> You don't know the news.. Will talk about that IRL next time :)
[11:26] <Neo31> famma diplome soon ma3neha
[11:26] <Neo31> we should meet for a coffee mela :)
[11:26] <Neo31> I will tell u next time i go back to sousse
[11:26] <Neo31> it's just that I go back home less and less now
[11:27] <elacheche> Diplome? what's that!! :D I told you, you have no idea what mess I am in x) :D
[11:27] <Neo31> hhh
[11:27] <Neo31> behi rabi m3ak anyway elacheche
[11:28] <Neo31> rabi ywaf9ik lelli fih el 5ir
[11:28] <Neo31> :)
[11:28] <elacheche> Ajma3ine :D
[11:28] * elacheche BRB
[11:28] <Neo31> i'm sure u r doing something great
[11:28] <Neo31> ok
[11:28] <Neo31> a toutti froutti
[11:32] <SalahMessaoud> :D
[11:32] <SalahMessaoud> :)
[11:32] <SalahMessaoud> G.M o/
[11:55] <Na3iL> Neo31, am thinking about Ubuntu mentors page in the wiki of u-tn
[12:04] <Neo31> what's the idea Na3iL ?
[12:05] <Na3iL> take a look → https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EgyptTeam/Mentors
[12:38] <Neo31> nice idea
[12:38] <Neo31> Neo31,
[12:38] <Neo31> Na3iL,
[12:38] <Na3iL> :D
[12:38] <Neo31> i thought about it
[12:40] <Na3iL> cool so we start?
[12:41] <Helmoony> ahlan
[12:42] <Na3iL> hey Helmoony
[12:43] <Helmoony> Na3iL, haw 7afil channel
[12:43] <Na3iL> hahaha yup :D
[19:50] <elacheche_anis> o/ lunapersa
[20:17] <Na3iL> ping elacheche
[20:20] <elacheche_anis> pong Na3iL
[20:21] <Na3iL> how are u :)
[20:23] <elacheche_anis> Tired.. But Have some energy that I like to put it in a mail to kick off our activity
[20:24] <elacheche_anis> Wanna talk about 5 minutes about the mentors thing?
[20:28] <elacheche_anis> Na3iL, I wanna just share what I think about the idea.. It's a great idea! I said that before, and I say it again and again.. But it's not the good time to launch that idea.. I don't know if you noticed it or not we are in a critical time.. The community is dead! Without the LoCo the mentors idea have no sense.. We should kickoff the community activities again, build the community again, the community is the people involved in!
[20:28] <elacheche_anis> If we don't have people involved and trusted we can't trust them to be mentors.. Do you understand my point of view or you need some more explanation?
[20:31] <Na3iL> indeed
[21:05] <elacheche_anis> Yo Dro__ !
[21:05] <Dro__> ahla elacheche_anis , romdhanek mabrouk
[21:06] <elacheche_anis> Snine dayma Dro__ :) ça va?
[21:55] <elacheche_anis> Neo31, the batman :D
[22:00] <Neo31> ahla elacheche_anis :)
[22:00] <Neo31> la batman la chay
[22:00] <Neo31> mnin jibtha le7keya
[22:00] <Neo31> ca roule ?
[22:08] <elacheche_anis> +- it's very hot in here..
[22:08] <elacheche_anis> My GS3 is dead :'(
[22:18] <Dro__> ca va elacheche_anis et toi
[22:32] * elacheche_anis is sleeping on the keyboard.. See you tomorrow guys :)
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| 2015-06-16T00:00:00 |
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"Helmoony",
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"SalahMessaoud",
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"elacheche_anis"
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2015-06-16-#ubuntu-gnome
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[07:51] <towo> Yeah, nvidia driver recently fucked itself up for me, too.
[07:51] <towo> Couldn't be bothered to debug it, yet, just disabled it.
[08:03] <ikonia> tone down the langauge please
[08:03] <ikonia> there isn't a need for it
[08:03] <towo> o.o
[08:04] <towo> Ohhhkay then.
[08:04] <ikonia> thanks
[11:00] <austin4312> I need help for configuring the x11vnc server on my machine running Ubuntu GNOME 15.04
[11:01] <austin4312> According to the x11vnc faq: http://www.karlrunge.com/x11vnc/faq.html#faq-gone-lock I can lock my screen after my session completes
[11:01] <austin4312> However, how do I configure it to work on gnome?
[11:48] <LinDol_phone> Ho all
[11:48] <LinDol_phone> Hi
[14:02] <LinDol> hi all
[14:02] <LinDol> good night :)
[14:02] <LinDol> haha :)
[21:08] <Noskcaj> darkxst, Do you know how much we need to work on to merge g-s-d and g-c-c? Also, gnome-shell probably needs another merge, but you left your changelog out when you last merged it
[23:04] <darkxst> Noskcaj, all the patches for g-s-d and g-c-c should be updated in staging, so should just be straight merges
[23:36] <darkxst> Noskcaj, not sure where the shell changelog went, here it is if you want to do new merge, just add it into the changelogs http://pastebin.com/jxVBjvRG
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"LinDol_phone",
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2015-06-16-#ubuntu-server
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[08:01] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:11] <arcsky> hey how can i give me full access to a tool called hping3 ?
[09:11] <arcsky> my friend*
[09:12] <OpenTokix> arcsky: in /etc/sudoers
[09:12] <lordievader> !info hping3
[09:12] <OpenTokix> arcsky: username ALL=NOPASSWD:/path/to/hping3
[09:12] <arcsky> OpenTokix: but can i specify only that program ?
[09:12] <arcsky> ah thanks
[09:13] <OpenTokix> arcsky: yes, I was writing that line for you =)
[09:13] <OpenTokix> lordievader: Next time maybe understand the question, before you show of your amazing bot skills
[09:13] <lordievader> OpenTokix: That wasn't about amazing bot skills, just wanted to know what hping was ;)
[09:14] <OpenTokix> Potentially very abusive networking tool
[09:15] <arcsky> OpenTokix: do i need to retsrat anything?
[09:16] <OpenTokix> arcsky: relog in a new shell
[09:17] <arcsky> doesnt work
[09:17] <arcsky> arcsky ALL=NOPASSWD:/usr/sbin/hping3
[09:19] <OpenTokix> and you did: sudo hping3 -options foo.bar.com
[09:19] <OpenTokix> ?
[09:20] <arcsky> ah ok
[09:20] <arcsky> thanks
[10:20] <friendlyguy> hi there! is in ubuntu 14.04.02 something present that mounts zfs filesystems upon start?
[10:20] <friendlyguy> (i read about a "mountall" package)
[10:22] <friendlyguy> what I'm experiencing is that upon reboot some of the filesystem in a zpool get mounted and some not.
[10:33] <RoyK> friendlyguy: zfsonlinux or fuse?
[10:33] <RoyK> fuse as in ubuntu-zfs
[10:33] <friendlyguy> zfsonlinux
[10:34] <RoyK> any mountpoints outside your /pool?
[10:35] <friendlyguy> outside of your pool... i guess not
[10:35] <friendlyguy> have a look at:
[10:35] <friendlyguy> http://pastebin.com/YsUvmW7E
[10:35] <friendlyguy> it's the output of "zfs get all | grep mount"
[10:35] <friendlyguy> right after boot
[10:36] <friendlyguy> backup_b and backup_a are mounted, but not the rest
[10:36] <friendlyguy> not even /datatank
[10:36] <RoyK> wierd - try to ask on #zfsonlinux
[10:37] <friendlyguy> already did that
[10:38] <friendlyguy> also, if i run a (zfs mount -a or a mountall command after boot ALL filesystems except /datatank get mounted
[10:41] <RoyK> I've seem something like that before
[10:42] <RoyK> thing is, ubuntu (and debian?) starts zfs rather late in the boot process, so if a daemon starts before it and opens some files on an existing mountpoint, that one isn't mounted
[10:43] <RoyK> but then again, I have no idea if that could be the case for you
[10:43] <friendlyguy> any idea how to troubleshoot
[10:45] <friendlyguy> it's pretty untouched. installed ubuntu, setup the cryptdevices, derived keys, installed zfs and samba for smb sharing
[10:45] <RoyK> then probably not the thing I saw
[10:47] <friendlyguy> i installed: htop bwm-ng screen vim ubuntu-zfs samba and ethtool
[10:54] <arcsky> anyone have tested to use ssh to authenticate with Windows AD or windows NPS?
[10:54] <OpenTokix> arcsky: I am assuming that would be handled by the underlying pam-modules for the thing, and ssh would not know the difference
[12:17] <coreycb> jamespage, can you review this? https://code.launchpad.net/~corey.bryant/ubuntu/utopic/python-keystonemiddleware/1.0.0-1ubuntu1/+merge/262010
[13:51] <teward> zul: ping - when the server meeting starts please give me a ping, I may be shifting my head through three other screens and may miss the initial 'start' time. my phone will buzz if you ping me though, either here or in -meeting.
[13:52] <zul> teward: sure
[13:52] <teward> thanks
[15:54] <teward> zul: i'll be back within 10 minutes, if you can delay the item I put on the agenda for at least that long into the meeting, that'd be great
[15:54] <teward> (gotta grab something from the car xD)
[15:54] <zul> teward: afaik im not driving the meeting
[15:54] <teward> ok
[15:54] <teward> you're listed as chair
[15:55] <teward> according to the agenda page :)
[15:55] <teward> (i'll be back)
[15:58] <teward> no problem though (I'm back, i thought what i was looking for rolled under the seat, turns out it didn't xD)
[16:46] <IrfanAlam_> any one here ?
[16:53] <IrfanAlam_> anyone here to help ?
[16:54] <tarpman> IrfanAlam_: ask your question, wait a few hours, see if someone answers
[16:55] <IrfanAlam_> how to install php cli ?
[16:55] <tarpman> IrfanAlam_: apt-get install php5-cli
[16:57] <IrfanAlam_> cli installed but still problem is there...
[16:57] <IrfanAlam_> how to install ffmpeg ?
[16:57] <Odd_Bloke> IrfanAlam_: If you describe your full problem, then someone will be able to give you a full answer; asking a bit at a time makes it difficult for people to answer helpfully.
[16:58] <tarpman> IrfanAlam_: ffmpeg is not in ubuntu; use avconf (apt-get install libav-tools)
[16:58] <tarpman> IrfanAlam_: pardon me, avconv
[16:59] <IrfanAlam_> please see this and solve all the NO problems http://167.160.171.68/nhcefiles.com/web/_h5ai/
[17:00] <Pici> /70/36
[17:01] <tarpman> IrfanAlam_: command-not-found or packages.ubuntu.com or apt-file can help you find the commands you're missing
[17:02] <IrfanAlam_> I am very new to linux.... please tell me what command to enter in ssh to solve the problem
[17:09] <IrfanAlam_> anyone there ?
[17:13] <histo> !info ffmpeg
[17:14] <histo> how is du not available
[17:14] <paultag> coreutils
[17:15] <histo> paultag: should be installed on his system is what I'm saying.
[17:15] <paultag> Yeah, it's marked Essential
[17:15] <histo> IrfanAlam_: does du work in a terminal on that system
[17:16] <IrfanAlam___> anyone ?
[17:17] <histo> IrfanAlam___: can you respond to the question..
[17:18] <paultag> Ah, ahaha
[17:18] <IrfanAlam___> I was disconnected... I didn't saw the question, can you please tell agian ?
[17:19] <IrfanAlam___> histo: 4 ./.cache 1364 .
[17:20] <histo> IrfanAlam___: can we keep this in one channel. du is installed but your silly web script doesn't think it's available.
[17:20] <IrfanAlam___> what about zip and ffmpeg and convert ?
[17:21] <histo> IrfanAlam___: you can install those if you want. sudo apt-get install packagename
[17:23] <IrfanAlam___> histo
[17:23] <IrfanAlam___> I installed zip
[17:23] <IrfanAlam___> but convert, Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done E: Unable to locate package convert
[17:26] <TJ-> IrfanAlam___: Do you mean the 'convert' program from the "imagemagick" package?
[17:26] <IrfanAlam___> I don't know but it says , you see here http://167.160.171.68/nhcefiles.com/web/_h5ai/
[17:27] <histo> !file convert
[17:28] <histo> what happened to ubottu could you search for what package provides x
[17:29] <histo> IrfanAlam___: install the imagemagick package
[17:30] <IrfanAlam___> how ?
[17:30] <Pici> The same way that you've installed other packages.
[17:31] <histo> fml
[17:31] <histo> IrfanAlam___: apt-get install packagename
[17:33] <YamakasY> anyone using samba against kerberos ?
[17:33] <ogra_> do you want to know who wins ?
[17:34] <YamakasY> LOL
[17:34] <ogra_> :)
[17:34] <YamakasY> both are pigs atm :P
[17:34] <ogra_> (and no, i dont, sorry)
[17:36] <YamakasY> damn
[17:37] <tarpman> YamakasY: what do you mean by "samba against kerberos"?
[17:39] <YamakasY> tarpman: auth
[17:50] <YamakasY> tarpman: any idea ?
[17:51] <tarpman> YamakasY: sorry, if it's AD-related I am probably the wrong person. no experience with the MS bits
[17:51] <tarpman> YamakasY: generally, ask your question, wait and see whether someone comes up with an answer
[17:51] <YamakasY> tarpman: nah linux kerberos
[18:17] <tarpman> YamakasY: based on a brief test, I got samba/smbclient to work with heimdal-kdc but not krb5-kdc. YMMV, I probably did something wrong. so, what was your question? :)
[18:21] <YamakasY> tarpman: I can't get it auth, I get some weird error: Failed to initialize kerberos context! (Invalid argument)
[18:23] <tarpman> YamakasY: that's not enough info. crank up the log level
[18:23] <YamakasY> tarpman: are you calling me a crank now ?? :P
[18:23] <tarpman> YamakasY: pardon me. "crank up" is an expression, means "increase"
[18:24] <tarpman> YamakasY: I run "smbd -F -S -d5", or even higher, when troubleshooting
[18:24] <YamakasY> tarpman: yeah, check the :P
[18:28] <YamakasY> tarpman: ok saf_fetch: failed to find server for "MYDOMAIN" domain
[18:28] <YamakasY> sitename_fetch: No stored sitename for MY.REALM
[18:30] <tarpman> YamakasY: is it possible for you to pastebin the entire log somewhere? showing what happens when you do for example smbclient -k -L //server (with a valid ticket)
[18:30] <tarpman> YamakasY: ideally in a situation where smbclient -L //server already works (without -k)
[18:36] <YamakasY> tarpman: need to check, just a sec
[18:44] <YamakasY> tarpman: I wonder about the workgroupname, should it be known in ldap ?
[18:44] <tarpman> YamakasY: the workgroup name needs to be the same as the krb realm name (AFAIK). I don't believe ldap is relevant here (other than to the extent you need a working samba setup)
[18:47] <YamakasY> tarpman: ok, but if you realm is My.DOMAIN
[18:48] <YamakasY> or my.domain.local
[18:48] <tarpman> YamakasY: looks like I lied and the workgroup and realm can be separate
[18:49] <tarpman> (but did not actually verify)
[18:49] <YamakasY> tarpman: yes they can
[18:51] <YamakasY> tarpman: mhh I get no login servers, but hostnames are OK
[18:53] <tarpman> YamakasY: maybe the 'password server' samba option? not sure what the exact cases are where that's needed...
[18:57] <YamakasY> tarpman: that is set, it get's an IP back it says
[18:57] <tarpman> sorry, since I can't see your actual setup or output I am really just throwing out random guesses :)
[19:04] <YamakasY> tarpman: yeah I know
[19:04] <YamakasY> no prob
[23:00] <dfgass> has anoyone had issues with dropbox on 15.04?
[23:00] <dfgass> i can not get a link at all
[23:17] <b4tm4n> is there an accepted way to connect on boot to a vpn (openvpn)?
[23:59] <histo> b4tm4n: what are you using to configure your network connection?
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:39.595989
| 2015-06-16T00:00:00 |
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2015-06-16-#ubuntu-ci-eng
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[06:41] <Mirv> al most the re
[07:31] <Mirv> sil2100: jibel: so great news. Riddell was ok in overriding the kde autopkgtests and I gave him a list of packages just before I went to sleep, but unfortunately both him and Scott were too busy last night. however, infinity heroically battled the Qt landing and also three KDE packages while still being able to leave most of the KF5 transition to KDE people's hands
[07:32] <Mirv> sil2100: jibel: so from our POV it's now done, we're still waiting for one KDE rebuild to transition but that's unrelated to us
[07:34] <sil2100> \o/
[07:34] <sil2100> Yaaay!
[07:37] <seb128> sil2100, http://people.canonical.com/~lzemczak/landing-team/ota/ota-4.changelog has "New nonohromatic" ... that's a typo for "mono" right?
[07:37] <sil2100> uuuh :)
[07:37] <sil2100> seb128: good catch!
[07:37] <seb128> :-)
[07:38] <seb128> sil2100, also the url in your email for the bugs doesn't work
[07:38] <seb128> https://launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+milestone/ww22-ota
[07:39] <seb128> https://launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+milestone/ww22-2015
[07:39] <seb128> works
[07:48] <seb128> sil2100, importing contact from sim was also added to that ota right? that might be worth listing in your changelog
[07:48] <seb128> sil2100, oh, there is still a typo in "monohromatic"
[07:48] <seb128> +c
[07:48] <seb128> :-)
[08:02] * Mirv 's phone reported there's an update available!
[08:03] <seb128> Mirv, did you update yet?
[08:05] <Mirv> seb128: it's downloading, I'll update right after it's done
[08:05] <Mirv> ok, now it's installing/rebooting
[08:05] <seb128> Mirv, could be useful if some people who didn't install ...
[08:05] <seb128> k, not you then I guess
[08:05] <Mirv> how could one resist?
[08:05] <seb128> was going to say it could be useful to configure a reminder and see it if triggers after update
[08:05] <seb128> some users reported issues about that
[08:05] <Mirv> ah..
[09:01] * Mirv 's first Go contribution is now merged :) https://code.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/ciborium/trunk
[09:03] <Mirv> bzoltan and others can ignore the above, in reality all trunks were updated already yesterday. I'm running watch only build job for 011 now to get the status back to correct.
[09:04] <Mirv> 041 will probably be correctly marked once it finishes its current build job.
[09:23] <dbarth_> hey trainguards, i need a reconfig on silo 002 (line 13; yet anohter one)
[09:23] <Mirv> dbarth_: sure
[09:25] <sil2100> Damn...
[09:26] <sil2100> Having a cat is troublesome, we just had a 'crappy' incident
[09:26] <sil2100> Took us half an hour to clean the cat, another half an hour to clean the house
[09:26] <Mirv> :)
[09:27] <sil2100> We're all in scratches
[09:27] <sil2100> Grrr, still dealing with the aftermath...
[09:28] <Mirv> sil2100: the cat is not yet housebroken after 12 weeks teaching with the mother?
[09:28] <Mirv> I think our white cat knew how to do the business when he arrived
[09:28] <sil2100> Well, our knows as well, always uses the right place, but you know... he had some problems and it was liquidish
[09:28] <Mirv> anyway, a young cat will definitely consume some time, in both good and bad :)
[09:28] <davmor2> sil2100: just grab the cat by the scruff of the neck it goes comatose and you can clean it more easily
[09:29] <Mirv> sil2100: ah... right
[09:29] <sil2100> And then he was walking around with it and dirtying the whole house
[09:29] <Mirv> the correct neck holding indeed might help, although it might need a bit of training to do that correctly
[09:29] <sil2100> We wanted to clean him, but he's still afraid of water
[09:29] <Mirv> water + cats == extra fun
[09:29] <sil2100> And the long hair didn't help ;)
[09:29] <sil2100> Yeha
[09:29] <sil2100> *Yeah
[09:31] <davmor2> sil2100: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9TmmF79Rw0
[09:31] * ogra_ is afraid to click that after seeing the backlog
[09:32] <sil2100> hm, does that really work?
[09:32] <sil2100> I mean, is that universal?
[09:32] <nik90> lol that trick in the video is awesome!
[09:33] <nik90> ogra_: you gotta take a look ;)
[09:33] <sil2100> Anyway, need to put some things into the washing machine as everything was in... you know
[09:33] <sil2100> ogra_: yeah, it's nothing disgusting
[09:33] <ogra_> ouch !
[09:35] <davmor2> ogra_: doesn't hurt it replicates the mother picking the cat up, the cat goes comatose so the mothers teeth don't tear the skin
[09:35] * ogra_ guesses this works with something less strong too, that clip is quite strong
[09:35] <ogra_> davmor2, sure, the method is great ... i just doubt the tool is
[09:35] <davmor2> ogra_: you can just use your hand
[09:36] <ogra_> thatrs what i do
[09:36] <ogra_> but thats a nice way to make it permanent ...
[09:36] <ogra_> just not with such a strong clamp
[09:37] <ogra_> (thats surely way above the jaw pressure a cat-mom would produce)
[09:38] <davmor2> ogra_: probably not don't forget mom is picking up with teeth that is a really small pressure point
[09:39] <davmor2> sil2100: and yes it works :)
[09:40] <cjwatson> I'm not sure it lets my 3yo get away with picking up kittens by their heads though, much as he would like to
[09:41] <cjwatson> Our kittens have retreated to my study, so I have a pile of mini-cats <-- that way
[09:43] <ogra_> davmor2, yeah ... well, i would still use my hand
[09:43] <ogra_> especially with a kitten like sil2100's
[09:43] <ogra_> my female cat was diabetic for a while, i had to give her three shots a day ... that kind of teaches you how to do it right over time :)
[09:43] <ogra_> (and how to not give yourself an insulin shot while holding her at the same place you have to place the needle too :) )
[09:44] <sil2100> hah
[09:45] <Mirv> dbarth_: so removing ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts from the silo is correct?
[09:45] <sil2100> Anyway, I hope this was just a one-time problem, for the last few days everything was fine
[09:45] <Mirv> dbarth_: , oh 002, not 001..
[09:45] <dbarth_> Mirv: yes
[09:45] <davmor2> ogra_: oh indeed I was just showing the way to sil2100 so he knew how to control his cat when it comes to dealing with water in future and leave him with less scratches
[09:45] <Mirv> dbarth_: line 13 is 001, line 24 is 002
[09:46] <dbarth_> Mirv: 002 is hopefully good once its rebuilt; it's 001 i needed a reconfig on
[09:46] <Mirv> dbarth_: right, you just said "i need a reconfig on silo 002 (line 13; yet anohter one)" so I was confused :) 001 is now reconfigured and needs a proper build to get the signon built
[09:46] <dbarth_> Mirv: but i'm trying to see if what's in 010 can't also be regrouped
[09:47] <dbarth_> since this one never got to the qa plate
[09:47] <ogra_> davmor2, yeah
[10:31] <popey> sil2100: Mirv http://imgur.com/gallery/G3U4rsV
[10:31] <sil2100> hah!
[10:32] <Mirv> that might work...
[10:38] <sil2100> Ok, back to work
[10:39] <sil2100> Great way to waste a lot of work hours ;/
[10:39] <sil2100> jibel: do you think we could also promote the ubuntu community images?
[11:03] <jibel> sil2100, no one tried it, we can probably promote it after we verified that it boots
[11:07] <sil2100> Actually, hm, it might be a bit troublesome in overall
[11:08] <sil2100> We don't really even have ubuntu images for OTA-4
[11:11] <sil2100> eh
[11:29] <oSoMoN> trainguards: can I haz a silo for line 54, please?
[11:29] <Mirv> oSoMoN: you can haz
[11:32] <oSoMoN> Mirv, thanks!
[11:53] <sil2100> Interesting that system-image made a delta for such a big diff
[11:53] <sil2100> Not sure if that's super safe, but people seem to be having working phones
[12:01] <sil2100> jibel: btw. do we have a test-case in the OTA tests that would check if old alarms work after upgrade?
[12:01] <sil2100> If not, could we have something like that added?
[12:05] <ogra_> sil2100, people have working phones, the s-i screwup will only take effect with the upgrade to OTA5 indeed
[12:05] <seb128> sil2100, hey, did you read my other comments earlier?
[12:06] <sil2100> seb128: ah, sorry, because of those problems with my cat I completely missed my backlog ;/ Looking now!
[12:07] <seb128> sil2100, no worry, it was around 9:48 european time
[12:07] <sil2100> seb128: fixing and adding! Thanks!
[12:07] <seb128> sil2100, yw! thanks for updating those ;-)
[12:07] <sil2100> Yeah, I browsed through the image and changes and tried getting as much good info as possible, since the milestone bugs weren't really helpful ;) As those were from the vivid baseline too, so many of them weren't even visible in stable
[12:08] <sil2100> But I missed a lot of changes probably
[12:09] <sil2100> seb128: next OTA we'll also have a better place for proper release notes
[12:09] <seb128> great
[12:09] <sil2100> I already had that in plans but there's so much other stuff to do! :)
[12:09] <rvr> sil2100: I don't remember any test that checks specifically an alarm.
[12:09] <rvr> Let me see
[12:10] <rvr> sil2100: Is there an issue with OTA4?
[12:10] <sil2100> rvr: since people report that old alarms are not working when people upgrade to OTA-4, new ones work fine
[12:10] <sil2100> I saw 2 people mentioning that at least
[12:11] <rvr> Weird
[12:12] <jibel> sil2100, we don't have a test for the alarm
[12:12] <jibel> after OTA
[12:12] <rvr> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1j91dnYhnffw_6BQCebNncXl4lcS6HMo-qVCdn_YdGmY/edit#gid=1054971369
[12:12] <rvr> Missing test for alarms
[12:13] <rvr> jibel: I'm adding it
[12:13] <rvr> Oh, I can't, not edit permissions
[12:13] <jibel> rvr, can you give me edit rights?
[12:13] <jibel> davmor2, ^
[12:24] <sil2100> Thanks guys
[12:44] <davmor2> jibel: that should give you edit
[13:08] <davmor2> jibel, rvr: both of you should be able to edit now
[13:18] <sil2100> barry: ping!
[13:18] <sil2100> barry: hey!
[13:18] <barry> sil2100: hiya!
[13:18] <sil2100> barry: we seem to have a slight s-i problem in OTA-4 ;)
[13:18] <barry> wonderful
[13:19] <barry> sil2100: what's up?
[13:19] <sil2100> Remember 2.5.1 you published for 14.09 and the 3.0 you published for wily? :)
[13:19] <sil2100> None of them has been published to the vivid-overlay ;p
[13:20] <barry> sil2100: huh? 2.5.1 has been out for ages
[13:20] <sil2100> barry: yes, but not in vivid or the overlay
[13:20] <sil2100> It was only in ubuntu-rtm/14.09
[13:20] <sil2100> No one forwarded it to vivid or the overlay, it's still on 2.5.0
[13:21] <sil2100> So all users of the OTA-4 now have a reverted version of s-i, and in 2.5.1 I saw some phased-upgrade fixes
[13:21] <barry> sil2100: well, that's no good. 2.5.1 at least should have been in vivid. i guess that got missed somewhere in the crush of channels
[13:22] <barry> sil2100: yes, that's the difference in 2.5.1. it has better phased update algorithm
[13:22] <sil2100> Yeah... would you be fine with simply getting 2.5.1 released to vivid-overlay then?
[13:22] <sil2100> And then SRUed to vivid
[13:22] <sil2100> Well, actually, not sure we can SRU it to vivid, as wily only has 3.0
[13:22] <barry> sil2100: that's probably the safest route. at some point we want people to get on 3.0, but probably not right now under pressure
[13:23] <sil2100> barry: ok, if you're fine with that I'll re-version s-i 2.5.1 for the overlay and prepare a silo for it
[13:23] <barry> sil2100: that should be fine. we should indeed sru it to vivid
[13:23] <sil2100> Ok :)
[13:23] <barry> sil2100: +1 i can work on an sru for vivid
[13:25] <sil2100> We might think about getting it released as a OTA-4.1 ;)
[13:25] <barry> sil2100: "it" == 2.5.1? what's the best way to do that?
[13:26] <ogra_> push it to the overlay ... thats the fastest way to get it in
[13:26] <sil2100> Will release it to overlay first, then copy to the snapshot PPA, build an image an maybe try releasing as an update - we could do that without phasing then, since users with OTA-4 could have bad phasing experience right now
[13:26] <sil2100> But we'll discuss that with the product team today
[13:27] <sil2100> barry: do you know if there were any other critical bugs in 2.5 which got fixed by 2.5.1, or only a better phasing algorithm?
[13:27] <barry> sil2100: cool. q: do you think i need to go through the train to sru into vivid, or just do the "normal" sru process?
[13:27] <barry> sil2100: no, just LP: #1383539 and a couple of related improvements to the cli
[13:28] <sil2100> barry: need to think about the SRU, since if I prepare a quick overlay landing for it, QA will be signing it off there anyway, so the SRU part could go through the normal SRU process
[13:29] <ogra_> why do you want an SRU at all ?
[13:29] <ogra_> the overlay is enough to get it to the phone image ... and nobody else uses vivid system-image stuff
[13:30] <barry> ogra_: that's fine with me too
[13:30] <sil2100> ogra_: right, but archive admins prefer SRUing everything anyway
[13:30] <ogra_> SRU is just extra paperwork for no benefit
[13:30] <sil2100> The idea of the overlay was to use it as a 'quick-landing', but in the end by principle stuff should be SRUed ;)
[13:30] <ogra_> at least in this case
[13:30] <sil2100> Well, true...
[13:30] <sil2100> Anyway, for now overlay
[13:30] <barry> sil2100: only if there's a reason to have the newer version in vivid. nothing on desktop or server uses it, so it's only for touch and snappy anyway
[13:31] <ogra_> and snappy doesnt use vivid anymore
[13:31] <barry> ogra_: right, and we *still* need to unfork snappy's si
[13:31] <ogra_> oh, wait., we do
[13:31] <ogra_> but we also use system-image-snappy anyway iirc
[13:32] <barry> ogra_: i was waiting to hear from mvo_ about si 3.1 and plans to unfork it there, but haven't heard anything. i could do a quick 3.1 release to wily if that helps
[13:32] <ogra_> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/system-image-snappy/
[13:32] <barry> ogra_: yes i know. that's what we need to unfork
[13:32] <ogra_> it is at 2.5.1-0ubuntu2
[13:32] <sil2100> The thing is...
[13:32] <sil2100> We don't want to create a boundary between 'desktop' and 'touch'
[13:33] <ogra_> why would we
[13:33] <sil2100> That's not the convergence way of things
[13:33] <barry> ogra_: 3.x has all the stuff mvo_ requested, so really that's the way to go
[13:33] <ogra_> barry, sure, i only look at vivid though
[13:33] <barry> ogra_: yeah
[13:33] <ogra_> and in vivid sanppy is fine as is ... for snappy an SRU would be no benefit
[13:33] <ogra_> and touch will get it from the overlay
[13:34] <barry> ogra_: okay, then we don't need to sru 2.5.1 into vivid
[13:34] <ogra_> right
[13:34] <ogra_> just do the overlay dance
[13:34] <mvo_> barry: nice, I was waiting for a release with that, but if its close I can use 3.0 that already has everything except for the error reporting so if 3.1 has that I'm good
[13:34] <sil2100> Just make sure infinity doesn't hear this ;)
[13:34] <sil2100> Or slangasek
[13:35] <barry> mvo_: yep. i'll do a release of 3.1 to wily today. any help you need for the unfork, just holler!
[13:35] <sil2100> They were anyway a bit mad that none of the overlay stuff got SRUed at all
[13:35] <barry> sil2100: tbh, it's all a big ball of huh? to me ;)
[13:39] <sil2100> Well, I like the idea, the archive should be self sufficient and we should aim to have both touch and desktop working from one single place - the overlay is a convinence device to work-around the long paperwork, but it's only a step in the long way
[13:40] <sil2100> At least that's what I understood from infinity's and slangasek's mails/conversations
[13:44] <sil2100> I *might* have misunderstood though ;)
[14:36] <boiko> trainguards: I have re-targetted silos 43 to 46 from wily to dual, could you please re-configure them?
[14:42] <Mirv> boiko: it can be done, but the silos need to be emptied, ie packages removed, is that ok? and 43 + 46 only, no 45?
[14:43] <boiko> Mirv: 43, 44, 45 and 46 :)
[14:43] <jhodapp> sil2100 or Mirv, can you please reconfigure silo 19?
[14:43] <boiko> Mirv: emptying the silos is fine
[14:43] <Mirv> boiko: ok, handling all of them
[14:44] <boiko> Mirv: thanks!
[14:50] <jhodapp> Mirv, around?
[14:51] <Mirv> jhodapp: I should say no ;)
[14:51] <jhodapp> hehe
[14:51] <jhodapp> just need a quick reconfigure on silo 19
[14:52] <Mirv> jhodapp: ok
[14:52] <jhodapp> thanks
[14:53] <Mirv> jhodapp: done
[14:53] <jhodapp> Mirv, thanks much
[14:53] <Mirv> you're welcome much
[15:12] <Mirv> rsalveti: note that you have some gst-plugins-bad in https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-014/+packages without a line in CI Train sheet, can the silo be freed?
[15:13] <rsalveti> it had a line eventually
[15:14] <rsalveti> but will check in a few
[15:30] <bzoltan> Mirv: is there an chance to push the qtc-p-u to w so it lands on trunk and I can setart to bckport and test on LTS/Vivid?
[15:40] <robru> Mirv: you don't need to empty the silos to reconfigure series anymore, that went away when dual silos was implemented.
[15:44] <Mirv> bzoltan: sure
[15:46] <bzoltan> Mirv: thank you
[15:47] <Mirv> robru: oh cool, then I can finally reconfig my Qt 5.5 silo from vivid to wily too! I started in early April and haven't dared to reconfig since I've my test packages there (and they're nowadays even for wily)
[15:47] <robru> Mirv: heh, yeah
[15:48] <rvr> sil2100: I haven't got the update on my personal krillin yet, should I?
[16:43] <davmor2> rvr: if you type in system-image-cli -i what channel does it say you on out of interest?
[16:43] <rvr> davmor2: Let me check
[16:44] <rvr> channel: ubuntu-touch/stable/bq-aquaris.es
[16:45] <davmor2> rvr: thanks
[16:57] <dbarth_> trainguards o/ you can remove silo 010; i have moved its content to other silos to streamline testing and landings
[16:57] <dbarth_> ie, don't merge / clean, just delete the silo please
[16:57] <dbarth_> sorry for the churn
[17:13] <rvr> seb128: Approved silo 6
[18:00] <robru> kenvandine: content-hub was already released to wily. You can't just trunk release to vivid now as that would be going backwards; either branch for vivid or do a dual landing.
[18:01] <kenvandine> robru, huh?
[18:01] <kenvandine> robru, oh... mandel's silo?
[18:01] <robru> kenvandine: your build in silo 9 failed because you're a bad person and you should feel bad.
[18:01] <slangasek> who would know the reason for this build failure, related to libmirclient-dev and libubuntu-application-api-headers in wily? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gst-plugins-bad1.0/1.4.5-1ubuntu4/+build/7539540
[18:01] <kenvandine> robru, haha
[18:01] <slangasek> /usr/include/ubuntu/application/instance.h:28:44: fatal error: mir_toolkit/mir_client_library.h: No such file or directory
[18:02] <slangasek> looks like a mir regression, the mir_client_library.h header still exists but is apparently not on the include path
[18:02] <kenvandine> robru, looks like he never reconfigured it for the 15.04 branch
[18:02] <robru> kenvandine: ah ok
[18:02] <kenvandine> but i'd prefer a dual landing... just not the only thing in the silo
[18:02] <kenvandine> i know settings isn't ready for a dual landing
[18:02] <robru> kenvandine: so the spreadsheet has the right MPs but the silo doesn't?
[18:02] <robru> slangasek: no idea
[18:03] <kenvandine> robru, not sure, but the content-hub branch is superseded
[18:04] <robru> kenvandine: ah, no spreadsheet has the same MP. so yeah, you'll need to replace that MP with one not targetting trunk
[18:04] * kenvandine wonders if they are all wrong
[18:05] <kenvandine> yup
[18:05] <robru> kenvandine: it's possible. You can check by examining debian/changelog file in the respective MP targets, if the first line contains 'wily' then it's all bogus for a vivid landing.
[18:05] <kenvandine> mandel, has udm branched for 15.04?
[18:06] <kenvandine> i know settings has, so we need a new MP for system-settings
[19:05] <balloons> fginther, did you try / have any luck with using old versions of llvm / kernel on vivid.. re: core apps?
[19:09] <fginther> balloons, no, I had not finished that experiment yet, let me try again
[19:43] <jhodapp> robru, can you reconfigure silo 19 for me please?
[19:44] <robru> jhodapp: done
[19:44] <jhodapp> thanks
[19:46] <robru> you're welcome
[20:11] <fginther> balloons, any idea what might be happening here? http://91.189.93.70:8080/job/generic-mediumtests-vivid-test/25/console
[20:29] * balloons looks
[20:30] <balloons> fginther, sorry looking
[20:44] <balloons> fginther, my guess was the app just crashed on launch. Looking at the videos confirms this.
[20:44] <balloons> no app ever appears
[20:46] <fginther> balloons, hmmm, qmlscene is running, could it be not rendering to the wm?
[20:48] <balloons> fginther, did you try running clock?
[20:48] <fginther> balloons, will try that next
[20:48] <balloons> fginther, yea, if qmlscene isn't running than that certainly shows the app didn't start
[20:49] <balloons> should make sure /usr/share/music-app/app/music-app.qml exists, and you can run it with /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/bin/qmlscene
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[05:32] <napsy_> jutro
[05:40] <idioterna> o
[07:00] <yang> .vreme lj
[07:00] <jabuk> ARSO: Ljubljana (299m): 17°C @16.06.2015 6:00 UTC.
[07:00] <jabuk> Vlažnost: 84% oblačno
[07:00] <jabuk> Sončni vzhod: 03:11:41, Kulminacija: 11:03:45, Sončni zahod: 18:55:50
[07:00] <jabuk> Dan je dolg: 15ur 44min 10s, Luna je v ščipu
[07:24] <idioterna> o Guest57774
[07:26] <anny_> dobro jutro tudi tebi
[07:38] <idioterna> fajn je ja
[07:38] <idioterna> koncno nism vec sam od svicanja mokr
[07:41] <anny_> :)
[07:41] <anny_> te je stuširalo?
[07:52] <idioterna> ja sam je blo kr toplo
[07:52] <idioterna> mislm k sm su od doma je lih nehal no, ampak ceste so ble cist mokre
[07:52] <idioterna> tko da je odspodi kr dost skropil
[08:17] <napsy_> hehe
[08:17] <napsy_> js sm pa dans z avtom :D
[08:17] <napsy_> no more rainiy days for me
[08:19] <zdobersek> good on ya, being a part of the problem
[08:19] <zdobersek> blendin' in
[08:19] <napsy_> hja, morm nadoknadit tistih 10 let ko zamujam
[08:27] <idioterna> morm pol tut js avto kupt al kaj
[08:28] <zdobersek> ne bluzi, ga ze mas
[08:29] <idioterna> ou ca?
[08:30] <zdobersek> oui, tu!
[08:30] <idioterna> ja sam kje ga mam
[08:32] <anny_> pri mami
[08:32] <idioterna> stari mami?
[08:32] <idioterna> tist je njen
[08:32] <idioterna> sm ji sicer dnar dal, ampak ni moj
[08:32] <zdobersek> a tko perete pr vas
[08:32] <idioterna> mhm
[08:32] <idioterna> ja sej ni blo v gotovini
[08:32] <idioterna> mislm
[08:33] <idioterna> obstaja paper trail
[08:33] <idioterna> pa nimamo volvota tko da ocitno ni nobene korupcije
[08:40] <idioterna> http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-33144830
[08:40] <Seniorita> Nestle to destroy noodles worth $50m - BBC News
[08:40] <Seniorita> »Nestle says it will destroy more than $50m (£32m) worth of its hugely popular Maggi noodles following a ban imposed by India's food safety regulator.«
[09:03] <napsy_> all the noodles :/
[09:03] <napsy_> oh the humanity
[09:04] <zdobersek> BETTER NOODLES THAN WATER
[09:04] <zdobersek> EH NESTLE
[09:58] <CrazyLemon> https://blog.lastpass.com/2015/06/lastpass-security-notice.html/
[09:58] <Seniorita> LastPass Security Notice | The LastPass Blog
[10:01] <zdobersek> ooold
[10:03] <slax0r> dobro jutro
[10:11] <CrazyLemon> jutro it is
[10:11] <zdobersek> jutro CONFIRMED
[10:14] <idioterna> 0, kosilo
[10:15] <napsy_> nack
[10:15] <msevph_> A kdo ve a geopedio lah spravs v libchamplain
[10:15] <msevph_> Tko kt openblablamaps
[11:14] <lynxlynxlynx> msevph_: ne vem, ampak glede na to, da ima wms/wfs, bi moralo it
[11:14] <lynxlynxlynx> boš pa najbrž mel težave dobit dostop
[11:41] <zdobersek> GET HIM http://www.siol.net/novice/slovenija/2015/06/david_cameron.aspx
[11:41] <Seniorita> V četrtek bo Slovenijo obiskal britanski premier David Cameron | Slovenija - Planet Siol.net
[11:41] <Seniorita> »V Sloveniji bo v četrtek na delovnem obisku britanski premier David Cameron, ki se bo sestal s predsednikom slovenske vlade Mirom Cerarjem.«
[12:40] <CrazyLemon> !g kazbrella
[12:40] <Seniorita> KAZbrella http://www.kazbrella.com/
[12:55] <slax0r> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrxfZv6KEL0
[12:55] <Seniorita> VAN CANTO - Fear Of The Dark (Live at Wacken Open Air 2014) | Napalm Records - YouTube
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[12:55] <slax0r> nomnomnomnomnomnomnom
[12:56] <slax0r> errr, napacn chan :D
[13:25] <yang> eni gospe sem posodil telefon in me je castila pijaco
[13:37] <zdobersek> union al lasko?
[13:41] <slax0r> Macallan 1946...
[13:42] <idioterna> kok je naiven ta yang
[13:42] <idioterna> uresnic je bla gospa NSA agent in mu je namestila backdoore ki mu manjkajo v telefonu
[13:43] <idioterna> ker laufa nek cuden OS gor
[13:48] <zdobersek> Mr. F!
[13:49] <yang> hehe
[13:53] <slax0r> js bi telefon vrgu v kos
[13:54] <yang> ful ste prijazni do neznancev
[13:55] <yang> moj telefon je ze itak backdooran k android laufam
[13:57] <CrazyLemon> no way!
[13:57] <CrazyLemon> ti laufaš repelent or smth like that
[13:57] <CrazyLemon> k je free pa true opensource !
[13:57] <yang> dva mam
[13:58] <yang> fairphone je android
[13:58] <CrazyLemon> thats not even fair
[13:59] <idioterna> so unjust
[13:59] <idioterna> js neznancem ponudim nokio 3310
[13:59] <CrazyLemon> so rude
[13:59] <idioterna> sej mam nokio 3330 za brant se
[14:09] <zdobersek> 'but I have to make a phone call, not destroy the Berlin wall'
[14:46] <dz0ny> .yt the warden
[14:46] <jabuk> Chelsea Wolfe - The Warden (Maceo Plex Remix) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vx-s1JlQ8Yk
[14:56] <zdobersek> THE WARDEN OF THE NORTH
[14:56] <zdobersek> FUCK BOLTONS
[15:02] <zdobbie> yang: don't forget to change ya underwear http://www.theverge.com/2015/6/16/8788483/fairphone-2-repairable-smartphone
[15:02] <Seniorita> Fairphone's new smartphone is built to be repairable, not disposable | The Verge
[15:02] <Seniorita> »The guiding principle of Dutch company Fairphone is simple: fight back against wasteful consumer culture by offering an ethically sourced smartphone that tries to use as few conflict minerals as...«
[15:04] <CrazyLemon> 525€????? wtf man
[15:14] <zdobersek> fairly expensive ^^
[15:58] <dz0ny> .yt stonefist hearth
[15:58] <jabuk> Report from Castle Stonefist: To the Lions! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dknwx_r1XN8
[15:59] <dz0ny> .yt stonefist health
[15:59] <jabuk> HEALTH :: STONEFIST :: STREAM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xOHQQmRSa8
[16:14] <idioterna> http://i.imgur.com/HEZ1eJY.jpg
[16:58] <CrazyLemon> .morje
[16:58] <jabuk> Postaja Koper - kapitanija - Jadransko morje: 24.9°C
[16:58] <jabuk> Postaja OB Piran (NIB) - Jadransko morje: 25.3°C
[16:58] <jabuk> Postaja Debeli Rtič (Zora) - Jadransko morje: 24.8°C
[17:10] <msev> toplo
[17:33] <Seniorita> [Ubuntu Security] USN-2650-1: wpa_supplicant and hostapd vulnerabilities http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2650-1/
[17:34] <Seniorita> [Ubuntu Security] USN-2649-1: devscripts vulnerability http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2649-1/
[17:35] <Seniorita> [Ubuntu Security] USN-2648-1: Aptdaemon vulnerability http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2648-1/
[17:37] <dz0ny> fun story: you don't need sudo if you issue command to install or reboot over dbus
[18:00] <upd> https://blockchain.info/unconfirmed-transactions
[18:00] <Seniorita> 4021 Unconfirmed Transactions
[18:00] <Seniorita> »A list of unconfirmed bitcoin transactions«
[18:14] <CrazyLemon> dz0ny thats not funny at all :)
[18:15] <CrazyLemon> upd a nekdo krade?
[18:15] <idioterna> mogoce poskusa
[18:15] <upd> ne cena je šla za 15$ gor
[18:15] <upd> pa je skočil na 7k nepotrnjenih transkacij
[18:16] <upd> nepotrjenih*
[18:16] <idioterna> mhm
[18:16] <CrazyLemon> kaj to pomeni nepotrjena transakcija?
[18:17] <upd> ko pošlješ iz enega naslova na drugega, preden spet lahko naprej pošlješ se mora s 3 bloki potrdit
[18:17] <upd> en pa traje v povprečju pol ure
[18:17] <upd> oz. se ne vem več
[18:17] <upd> !g bitcoin block time
[18:17] <Seniorita> Bitcoin Average Transaction Confirmation Time - Blockchain.info https://blockchain.info/charts/avg-confirmation-time
[18:18] <upd> ubistvu je to potrdilo da si res dobil bitcoin nakazan
[18:19] <upd> ubistvu je 10 minut
[18:30] <idioterna> ja sej se network spremeni vedno
[18:31] <idioterna> tko da vzdrzuje teh 10 minut
[18:31] <idioterna> loh je vec, ampak samo do naslednga diff change
[18:31] <idioterna> al pa manj
[19:13] <CrazyLemon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f71CjlF7Ph8
[19:13] <Seniorita> "Najboljša" "Prijatelja": Crossy Road - YouTube
[19:13] <CrazyLemon> NSFW
[19:13] <Seniorita> »Vsakdanji pogovor na semaforju. *Vulgarno in eksplicitno. Ne gledat v družbi šefov ali staršev.* http://www.patreon.com/lukamarcetic«
[19:49] <dz0ny> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9727297
[19:49] <Seniorita> KeePass – questionable security | Hacker News
[20:28] <zdobbie> oi
[20:47] <dz0ny> https://transfer.sh/
[20:47] <Seniorita> transfer.sh - Easy and fast file sharing from the command-line.
[20:47] <Seniorita> »Easy and fast file sharing from the command-line.«
[20:47] <zdobbie> .pic it's a trap
[20:47] <jabuk> http://drinksleepbekerri.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/star_wars_its_a_trap.jpg
[23:32] <upd> rainn
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