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2015-06-06-#ubuntu-motu
[22:39] <slackner> micahg: ping?
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2015-06-06-#lubuntu
[04:42] <rexuss> hi guys, do you know where lubuntu keeps the file that includes the default alias? [04:43] <rexuss> normally in a new installation, when we type alias, lubuntu would already came up with a couple of default aliases. So, where are these aliases configured? [05:03] <au10tic> how can i install an older package version? [05:20] <au10tic> how can i install an older package version? [05:50] <au10tic> anyone? [07:11] <rexuss> aul0tic: http://askubuntu.com/questions/138284/how-to-downgrade-a-package-via-apt-get [08:12] <levo> hi, I tried to set right alt, or caps for compose key, (setxkbmap -option "compose:ralt") but it didn't have any effect. [i pressed and released right alt then i typed o and after that c but instead of writing copyright sign it just typed oc) [09:07] <levo> guys what could be the reason setxkbmap -option compose:rctrl [-layout us] wouldn't work? [10:33] <levo> so is it possible to set compose key while using keyboard layout handler? [10:34] <levo> when I use setxkbmap it doesnt have any effects, i thought maybe it's because keyboard layout handler's overwrites it [12:15] <mpmctoo> Hey folks, any new info on LXQT/Lubuntu? :) [13:50] <chemerou> good evening [19:00] <tsoutseki> hello. i am running lubuntu on one of my laptops and i can't figure out how to connect it to my wifi after a (somewhat) recent update [19:00] <tsoutseki> could someone instruct me? [19:03] <zy3pD> tsoutseki, i don't think that i can help u, but have u tried the terminal command "ifconfig" (look for wlan0), if u don't see the network indicator then try "nm-applet" or run a older kernel version, maybe something helps [19:04] <tsoutseki> zy3pD, ok thanks ;( [19:04] <ianorlyn> tsoutseki: try lspci to let me know which chipset [19:04] <ianorlyn> tsoutseki: was it working before? [19:05] <tsoutseki> ianorlyn, yes. i can see the networks / wifi's if i add the thing on the taskbar, but it seems to not working properly and won't 'respond' (idk what to call it). i mean, i click it and all, enter the encryption key etc., but it acts like i never did [19:06] <ianorlyn> tsoutseki: if you reboot hit shift to get to grub if not dual boot and select advanced options for ubuntu and try older kernel maybe? [19:07] <tsoutseki> ianorlyn, hmm, let me see [19:08] <tsoutseki> ianorlyn, i kept pushing shift again and again but it just booted normally. do i have to keep it pushed or something? [19:08] <ianorlyn> tsoutseki: I think so [19:09] <tsoutseki> ianorlyn, yes, it worked now.i have some kernels; 3.13.0-26, 37, 45 and 49 [19:10] <tsoutseki> would you choose some specific? [19:10] <tsoutseki> (generic) [19:11] <tsoutseki> i chose the 26 one, let's see :) [19:14] <tsoutseki> ianorlyn, didn't work. i think it is related to the software lxde uses to get me connected or w/e [19:14] <tsoutseki> like, its interfece [19:14] <ianorlyn> tsoutseki: what happens if you run pgrep nm-applet in a terminal does it return a process id [19:15] <ianorlyn> so are you saying the network applet is there but pressing on the internet it doesn't connect? [19:15] <tsoutseki> ianorlyn, it returned nothing [19:15] <tsoutseki> and yes [19:16] <tsoutseki> ianorlyn, well, after updating, it disappeared [19:16] <tsoutseki> but when i add it, it seems to not be working properly [19:16] <ianorlyn> tsoutseki: what happens if you try guest session or a new user? [19:16] <ianorlyn> as that would see if you might have missconfigured your own user session [19:17] <ianorlyn> one other thing to try is alt-f2 for run dialog and nm-applet [19:17] <tsoutseki> ianorlyn, i updated that laptop and the desktop the same day, both can't connect, but let me see [19:17] <tsoutseki> i ran a guest mode and a small window saying 'no session for pid 2069 showed up, anyway, back to the point [19:18] <ianorlyn> tsoutseki: known bug [19:18] <ianorlyn> but still no network applet [19:18] <tsoutseki> ianorlyn, yes, i connected through guest mode [19:18] <tsoutseki> but the applet thing looks different here [19:18] <tsoutseki> than the main user [19:18] <ianorlyn> might be icon theme as that changes it [19:19] <tsoutseki> ianorlyn, no, the interfece is different, too [19:20] <tsoutseki> hmmm [19:23] <tsoutseki> that specific interfece seems to be include in the 'system tray applets [19:23] <tsoutseki> i will try adding it on the main user and see what happens [19:25] <tsoutseki> all adding it did was having a keyboard thingy showing up on the task bar [19:25] <tsoutseki> but now the laptop is connected to the internet, as soon as i connected through the other user on the main one, too [19:26] <tsoutseki> i will try updating the computer now, maybe that will fix it [20:17] <tsoutseki> updating didn't work :( [20:20] <tsoutseki> i will try installing some networks managing software [23:27] <TheAzther> hello?
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2015-06-06-#ubuntu-pl
[06:07] <Ashiren> happy Caturday [06:07] <Ashiren> :3 http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aRP5192_460sv.mp4 [07:31] <Ashiren> :3 https://i.imgur.com/IKpjhWq.jpg [08:31] <drathir> bry... [09:46] <Ashiren> :3 https://i.imgur.com/zaSYhYN.jpg [12:17] <nam3> Cześć [12:17] <TheNumb> ześć [12:49] <drathir> witam... [12:56] <Ashiren> :3 http://i.imgur.com/GCSvlO5.jpg [13:01] <CookieM> http://i.imgur.com/JUm7CUT.gifv [13:02] <CookieM> ilustracja wojny polsko-polskiej [13:04] <Ashiren> :1.5 [13:10] <nam3_> jestem nowy, zawsze tu taki spokój na kanale ? [13:11] <gjm> nie, czasem bijemy murzynów [14:20] <daro> czesc [14:20] <daro> jest tu ktos?:) [14:25] <daro> przy probie instalacji czegos przez ept-ge tzatrzymuje sie na 0% [Connecting to archive.ubuntu.com]i wisi [14:25] <daro> i wisi* [14:25] <daro> jak to naprawic [14:25] <daro> :> [14:25] <daro> ?:> [14:30] <mati75> sprawdź dns [14:33] <BlessJah> daro: wejdz na http://archive.ubuntu.com/ przez przegladarke, jesli nie zadziala, to cos z dns, siecia albo firewallem [14:35] <daro> dziaala [14:37] <BlessJah> a z roota wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ dziala? [14:58] <Ashiren> :3 https://i.imgur.com/nRjURYa.jpg [16:42] <Ashiren> :3 https://i.imgur.com/QaGTgPV.jpg [20:41] <Wizard> Siema [20:41] <gjm> no elo xD [20:46] <Wizard> Co tam? [20:47] <gjm> Wizard: http://arturcieslak.pl/images/IMG_20150606_194111.jpg [20:48] <Wizard> Nie działają mi linki na wp8 :-) [20:49] <gjm> super windows phone [20:49] <Wizard> A komputer mam zajęty Polską i Iranem [20:49] <Dread> superpartia [20:49] <Dread> nowy kłaptop [20:49] <gjm> no [20:49] <Dread> ale to już ten tynkpad brzydki [20:49] <Dread> x230 pewno [20:50] <Wizard> Wp8 jest super, tylko nie ma dobrych irców [20:50] <gjm> trochę problemu z przyzwyczajniem się do klawiatury [20:50] <gjm> ale tak to spoko [20:50] <Ashiren> :3 http://cheezburger.com/511749/cute-community-national-cat-day?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ICanHasCheezburger+%28I+CAN+HAS+CHEEZBURGER%29 [20:51] <mati75> gjm: laptopa w końcu zmieniłeś [20:51] <Wizard> Ja juz linugza nawet w pracy ni mom [20:51] <Wizard> Szkoda nerw [20:53] <Wizard> Mati75, poczekaj na win 10 :-) [20:53] <Ashiren> ahh te ubuntu/gentoo [20:54] <Wizard> Gentoo? Ktoś tego jeszcze używa? [21:03] <Wizard> :-) [21:08] <mati75> zdarza się [21:13] <Wizard> Tak na serio, winda nie jest taka zła [21:13] <Voldenet> o, ładne ktoś ma mpd [21:14] <Wizard> Działa, robi co ma robić i robi to dobrze [21:14] <Voldenet> tylko jednej rzeczy nie rozumiem, po co do tak dobrego sprzętu podłączać laptopa? [21:15] <Voldenet> to tak jakby kupić titana i połączyć go z jakimś celeronem [21:55] <gjm> Voldenet: mpd dobre? [21:55] <gjm> bez przesady [21:55] <gjm> i nie ktoś, tylko ja ;] [21:58] <Voldenet> do laptopa bym kupił coś lekkiego [21:58] <Wizard> Np kozi ser pleśniowy smażony w panierce [21:59] <Voldenet> lpd8 np. [21:59] <Voldenet> lpd8 fajny, bo można sobie na laptopie położyć [21:59] <Voldenet> ale wada taka, że jak niestabilne podłoże masz, to się ugina [22:00] <gjm> mogliby zrobić odświeżoną wersję mpd z podświetlanymi padami [22:00] <gjm> ale pewnie nie zrobią, bo jest maschine [22:00] <Voldenet> no, coś jak mpx-16 tylko większe [22:00] <Voldenet> tzn. 4x4 a nie 2x8 [22:01] <Voldenet> jest abletonowy kontroler świecąco migający ale imho launchpad lepszy [22:02] <gjm> no właśnie chcę kupić launchpada [22:02] <gjm> albo akai apc40 [22:03] <Voldenet> apc mini bardzo przypomina launchpada [22:04] <Wizard> Co to mpd? [22:04] <Wizard> music player daemon? [22:04] <Voldenet> taki kontroler midi [22:04] <Wizard> O, Voldenet, też się w to bawisz? [22:05] <Voldenet> Niezbyt [22:05] <Voldenet> bawiłem się to odpowiednie słowo [22:07] <Wizard> http://www.fronda.pl/a/nie-daj-sie-oszukac-antykoncepcja-to-trucizna,51478.html [22:08] <Wizard> I rosną pewnie włosy na rękach [22:09] <Voldenet> niektórzy naprawdę nie mają co robić [22:09] <Voldenet> dobra kawa to trucizna, sól też
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2015-06-06-#ubuntu-tr
[02:28] <fnoyanisi> selam [02:28] <fnoyanisi> uyanik olan var mi [11:56] <fnoyanisi> slm
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2015-06-06-#ubuntu+1
[09:54] <lordievader> Good morning. [12:02] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all [23:35] <Alkalino> Hello there, I'm having problems installing ubuntu 15.04, it says : could not write bytes broken pipe while choosing try ubuntu or install ubuntu [23:35] <Alkalino> anyone would please help me? sorry for my english. [23:36] <penguin42> Alkalino: 15.04 is the current release, so that's in #ubuntu [23:36] <penguin42> Alkalino: But could not write bytes sounds like the disk isn't large enough/is full [23:36] <penguin42> or broken [23:39] <Alkalino> well i was on #ubuntu and the say : Alkalino: wily werewolf is the codename for Ubuntu 15.10 - Support only in #ubuntu+1 [23:40] <k1l_> that was a mistake by that user. he already said you can ask in äubuntu [23:40] <penguin42> you said you were having problems with 15.04 [23:40] <Alkalino> and then i say :well I said 15.04, is that still okay, sorry I'm new [23:40] <k1l_> *#ubuntu [23:40] <Alkalino> and they say yes [23:41] <Alkalino> sorry i'm confused #ubuntu say go to #ubuntu+1 and #ubuntu+1 say go to #ubuntu [23:42] <penguin42> Alkalino: If you're doing 15.04 it's in #ubuntu, if you're doing 15.10 it's in here [23:42] <k1l_> that was a mistake. that user thought 15.04 was still the alpha version. but it is not. so just ask in #ubuntu [23:43] <Alkalino> sorry :) [23:43] <Alkalino> again [23:43] * penguin42 has sympathy, sometimes I don't know what month it is [23:44] <ObrienDave> month? we have months? ;P [23:45] <penguin42> ObrienDave: Yes, there's January at the start of the year when you still write the previous year number, and December at the end of the year when you're winding down, and there's a few others in between [23:45] <ObrienDave> dang, i knew i was missing something ;P [23:47] <penguin42> ObrienDave: actually a fun read is copernicus's writings where he converts between different calenders
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2015-06-06-#maas
[02:24] <mup> Bug #1399824 changed: pserv datagram traceback <oil> <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1399824> [02:24] <mup> Bug #1441606 changed: Error: Page not found The requested URL /MAAS/nodes/ was not found on this server. <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1441606> [02:36] <mup> Bug #1399824 opened: pserv datagram traceback <oil> <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1399824> [02:36] <mup> Bug #1441606 opened: Error: Page not found The requested URL /MAAS/nodes/ was not found on this server. <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1441606> [02:39] <mup> Bug #1399824 changed: pserv datagram traceback <oil> <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1399824> [02:39] <mup> Bug #1441606 changed: Error: Page not found The requested URL /MAAS/nodes/ was not found on this server. <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1441606> [03:06] <mup> Bug # changed: 1266893, 1268713, 1268783, 1269046, 1270165, 1312988, 1331909, 1350270, 1358586 [03:06] <mup> Bug # changed: 972077, 1266893, 1268713, 1268783, 1269046, 1270165, 1312988, 1331909, 1350270, 1358586, 1396474, 1425327, 1442379, 1448901, 1462029 [03:36] <mup> Bug # changed: 1400417, 1400932, 1401342, 1401841, 1411173, 1416431, 1420425, 1433702, 1434602, 1435403, 1442157, 1442552, 1443631, 1445223, 1445717, 1455722, 1457245, 1457293 [03:36] <mup> Bug #1305907 changed: boot: section in pserv.yaml is obsolete <MAAS:Confirmed for allenap> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1305907> [04:09] <mup> Bug # changed: 1395375, 1420563, 1420566, 1460097, 1460151 [04:09] <mup> Bug #1457293 opened: 1.8b6: log entries missing in archived clusterd logs <oil> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1457293> [14:46] <mup> Bug #1462634 opened: Error on request (62) node.check_power <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1462634> [14:46] <mup> Bug #1462635 opened: Error on request (62) node.check_power <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1462635> [14:55] <mup> Bug #1462637 opened: Failure: twisted.web.error.Error: 503 SERVICE UNAVAILABLE <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1462637> [15:01] <mup> Bug #1462637 changed: Failure: twisted.web.error.Error: 503 SERVICE UNAVAILABLE <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1462637> [15:10] <mup> Bug #1462637 opened: Failure: twisted.web.error.Error: 503 SERVICE UNAVAILABLE <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1462637> [16:26] <mup> Bug #1462637 changed: Failure: twisted.web.error.Error: 503 SERVICE UNAVAILABLE <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1462637>
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2015-06-06-#ubuntu-fi
[10:18] <kirvesAxe> Hmm, mielenkiintoinen pulma. Sambajaettu levy ei näy easytagin kansiovalikossa /median alla vaikka se on sinne mountattu ja ihan kiltisti about kaikilla muilla softilla näkyy. [10:22] <kirvesAxe> Sen sijaan sisältö löytyy ~/.gvfs/ alta, mutta joidenkin juttujen tekeminen siellä ei onnistu [10:24] <kirvesAxe> (yritän poistaa ID3v1 -tageja tiedostoista kun jotkut soitinsoftat rasittavasti priorisoi ne vaikka v2-tagitkin olis tarjolla, ihanasti englanninkielinen softa vastaa suomenkielisellä virheilmolla "Funktion toteutus puuttuu", ongelmaa ei sen sijaan ilmene samaa tehdessä kun tiedoston sijaintina on koneen oma kovo) [10:37] <Hagis98> Miksi en saa asenneuua Xubuntuun uuttaa käyttäjää? [11:50] <motalb> Hagis98: miten olet yrittänyt luoda uutta käyttäjää? [12:34] <pesasa> http://viikonvalo.fi/Ajoneuvojen_avoin_data_4.1 [14:08] <kirvesAxe> Jaaha, ratkesihan se [15:19] <Hagis98> saan käyttäjän ja salasanan luotua, mutta kun kirjaudun uudella käyttäjällä kysyy se aina uudelleen ja uudelleen salasanaa. [16:38] <pesasa> Hagis98: Minkälainen näppäimistö? [16:39] <pesasa> Hagis98: Onko Logitechin langaton ja salasanassa erikoismerkkejä? Kunhan arvailen. [16:55] <Hagis98> käyttis on Xubuntu ja se on asennettu Asus eee pc x101ch kannettavaan. [17:03] <motalb> Hagis98: oletko kokeillut vaihtaa uuden käyttäjän salasanaa käytössä olevan tilisi kautta? Onnistuuko [17:08] <motalb> Hagis98: oletko kokeillut vaihtaa uuden käyttäjän salasanaa käytössä olevan tilisi kautta? Onnistuuko? [17:10] <Hagis98> onnistuu [17:10] <motalb> Hagis98: toimiiko kirjautuminen edelleenkään? [17:13] <Hagis98> ei toimi kirjautuminen [17:14] <motalb> Oletko käynnistänyt konetta uudelleen, vai kirjautunut ulos ja vaihtanut käyttäjää? [17:15] <Hagis98> molempia olen kokeillut [17:16] <motalb> on kyllä outoa [17:17] <motalb> minulla on useampi xubuntu usealla käyttäjällä [17:17] <Hagis98> kokeilen vielä sitä uudelleen käynnistystä [17:17] <Hagis98> johtunee tästä laitteesta.. ihan mopo. Asus miniläppäri [17:18] <motalb> ei mopuden tuohon pitäisi vaikuttaa [17:18] <Hagis98> joku testi siinä ruudulla vilahtaa. ei ehdi lukea. [17:19] <motalb> käynnistyksen yhteydessä? [17:20] <Hagis98> siis kun vaihtaa käyttäjää
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2015-06-06-#ubuntu-unity
[02:43] <TravLR> Hi all. I'm wondering if there is any documenation Online regarding the details of the design philosophy behind Unity?
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2015-06-06-#ubuntustudio
[07:25] <ubunkillah4x> kill [09:27] <gordonjcp> morning [09:27] <gordonjcp> is there a USB stick image for Ubuntu Studio? [09:29] <gordonjcp> I tried using the USB creator thing in normal Ubuntu but it doesn't work [09:30] <gordonjcp> comes up with an error "gfx32 is not valid" [09:30] <gordonjcp> when I try to boot from the resulting USB drive [10:10] <ruenoak> I've had this problem with various Ubuntu flavours, you could try typing "live" without the quotes to get it to boot into live mode [13:28] <luis__> z [13:28] <luis__> Hola
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2015-06-06-#ubuntu-us-pa
[12:52] <TengokuNoIsan> Good bacon to all!
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2015-06-06-#ubuntu-news
[03:11] * ahoneybun will look at the summaries tomorrow [16:52] * PaulW2U counts summaries - just 8 to do
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2015-06-06-#ubuntu-gr
[08:51] <thomas510> kalispera [08:51] <pc_magas> thomas510, Καλησπέρες [08:52] <thomas510> exo ena provlimataki me debian boro na rotiso edo? [08:53] <pc_magas> Για IRC το debian έχει δικους τους servers. [08:53] <pc_magas> Ρώτα αλλά δεν είμαι σίγουρος αν θα βρεις βοήθεια. [08:53] <thomas510> boris n m dosis to channel giati dn vrika kati? [08:54] <thomas510> vasika piga na kano upgrade se debian 8 [08:54] <thomas510> k den xekinan ta grafika [08:54] <thomas510> meta to upgrade [09:08] <talos-mintgr> Δολίμασε να ξαναβάλεις τους οδηγούς των γραφικών [09:08] <talos-mintgr> [ Ειχα ένα θέμα στο mint μεταξύ του πυρήνα 3.19 και την Nvidia ] [09:09] <talos-mintgr> Δες αν το προβλημα φτιάχνει με ενα downgrade του πυρήνα [09:13] <thomas510> pos kano downgrade? [09:13] <thomas510> dokimasa na xanaperaso drivers alla tpt [09:28] <talos-mintgr> Ίσως να είναι τόσο απλό όσο το να διαλέξεις ενα παλίο πυρήνα κατα την εκκίνηση [12:31] <Radwan> γεια σας παιδειά, ειμαι ο ίδιος που σας ρώταγα χθες [12:31] <Radwan> Θέλω την βοηθειά σας σε κάτι τελευταίο... [19:50] <pc_magas> Καλησπέρες [21:40] <geothom230> Anoniem4l
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2015-06-06-#ubuntu-dk
[14:15] <simon> hejsa. når jeg dual-booter ind i windows på min sony vaio pro, sker det nogle gange at jeg får windows-opstarts-lyden, men skærmbilledet kommer aldrig. [14:16] <simon> når jeg booter ind i ubuntu sker det aldrig... kun ind i windows. [14:22] <simon> computeren er ret moderne, jeg har slået uefi fra fordi det var for besværligt at få dual boot til at virke med det. [14:23] <simon> det mærkelige er at *nogle* gange vil den gerne vise windows-opstarts-skærmen, og jeg kan ikke regne ud hvornår. [14:23] <simon> så jeg genstarter nogle gange indtil det virker. nogle gange booter jeg ind i ubuntu, andre gange i windows. pludselig får jeg "vil du starte i fejlsikret tilstand?" og så ved jeg, at jeg godt bare kan vælge normal windows-opstart.
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2015-06-06-#ubuntu-hr
[05:31] <Vlado9A3CY> dobro jutro [05:56] <Vlado9A3CY> odoh u prirodu [06:47] <jelly> CrazyLemon: daj link svejedno [09:26] <jelly> hmha, online.konzum.hr je upotrebljiv [09:35] <jelly> http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/wikileaks-posts-largest-leak-of-trade-negotiations-in-history-charting-progress-tisa-10296061.html?origin=internalSearch [09:42] <CrazyLemon> jelly http://www.delo.si/gospodarstvo/podjetja/simobilov-lastnik-za-30-milijonov-evrov-kupuje-amis.html [13:40] <tonil> alo čkepi,putujem tako da sam vas dosao pozdraviti,posebno tebe rut hm autotab doesn't work,he isn't here...cujemo se i vidimo se do ponedjeljka ionako su svi kanali vise manje umrtvljeni
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2015-06-06-#ubuntu-my
[02:50] <saladin442> mana ornag orang malaysia! [04:09] <mypapit> saladin? [05:05] <excalibr> kami sini org siam. channel org malaysia ada di #ubuntu-th
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2015-06-06-#ubuntu-discuss
[02:42] <ObrienDave> oh, let me guess, strangeness in #u tonight ;P [02:44] <OerHeks> Openstack, love it ... [02:44] <ObrienDave> lol [02:44] <daftykins> just some noobs trying to install things on broken setups again by the looks of it [02:44] <OerHeks> but don't know a thing as i never tried to connect 7-10 servers [02:45] <ObrienDave> shame on you ;P [02:46] <OerHeks> reinstall saves us time too... [02:47] <ObrienDave> and headaches [02:47] <OerHeks> eh, i have 5 desktops now, ObrienDave. all duo cores, mostly 100 mbit [02:47] <OerHeks> but that is no fun [02:47] <daftykins> i definitely don't have the patience to sort that guys broken packages out :) [02:47] <OerHeks> !details [02:48] <OerHeks> oh [02:48] <ObrienDave> OerHeks, glutton for punishment? ;P [02:58] <ObrienDave> daftykins, you're a brave man :)) [02:58] <daftykins> we seem to have the class clowns in tonight [02:59] <daftykins> heh, just silly i think [02:59] <daftykins> i should /part and regain my sanity [03:04] <daftykins> yeah i should totally not have mentioned dd to this guy [03:12] <ObrienDave> adding fuel to the fire? ;P [03:23] <daftykins> you know that situation where the user is here at point A, you know that you need to lead them through point B to get to point C... but the effort required is just way too much? :> [03:23] <daftykins> can't save 'em all :) [03:24] <ObrienDave> oh yea, that's about the time my fingers get me into trouble ;P [09:54] <lordievader> Good morning. [12:02] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all [12:04] <lordievader> Hey BluesKaj [12:05] <BluesKaj> Hi lordievader [12:05] <lordievader> How are you doing? [12:05] <BluesKaj> fine thanks lordievader, and you? [12:06] <lordievader> Doing good. Cooled off a lot during the night :) [12:11] <BluesKaj> yes, same here, 2C overnight here [16:50] <ObrienDave> *sigh* and so it begins ;P [16:57] <daftykins> haha [16:58] <OerHeks> welcome to the weekend full of drunk and funny people [16:58] <ObrienDave> to quote daftykins, you can't save them all from themselves :P [16:58] <daftykins> :D [16:58] <ObrienDave> maybe i should get drunk ;P [16:59] <OerHeks> That is funny .. no? [16:59] <daftykins> do you guys play much pool where you're from? the snooker table sorta game. i wonder if #ubuntu support has an optimum drinking level just like pool play does? :> [16:59] <ObrienDave> it would be funnier if i was drunk ;P [17:00] * ObrienDave has been playing ALL billiard games for over 50 years ;P [17:00] <daftykins> =] [17:00] <ObrienDave> 8-ball, 9-ball, 3-ball, billiards, snooker, straight pool. you name it, i've played it :) [17:01] <OerHeks> lot of pooltables here in Haarlem. [17:01] <daftykins> mmm we only get the two sets of colours, red and yellow, over here [17:02] <ObrienDave> only one i'm not very good at is 3-cushion billiards [17:03] <daftykins> :> [17:03] <ObrienDave> only because i've played it 5 or 6 times in 50 years ;P [17:03] <daftykins> there's an old billiards table with the little white and black figures at a pub we sometimes went to here, but the scoring is way too tough to keep up with when drinking [17:06] <daftykins> so cruel to rack up thousands of points then mess up and be back to 0 :) [17:07] <ObrienDave> they don't have the overhead bead counter? [17:07] <daftykins> yeah :) [17:08] <daftykins> but you know, when you're at a certain level of drinking you can easily forget which colour you are in Pool - or whether you were top or bottom on that [17:08] <daftykins> those are some of the funniest evenings, playing doubles pool with a friend of mine [17:09] <daftykins> it gets to either his shot or mine, we walk around the table for a while... then walk up to one another and whisper "which colour were we?" [17:09] <ObrienDave> lol [17:09] <ObrienDave> been there, done that ;P [17:09] <daftykins> :D [17:41] <ObrienDave> vodka time ;P [17:48] <daftykins> :O [17:49] <ObrienDave> it's either that or lose more hair than i already have LOL [17:51] <OerHeks> "loosing hair in Colorado" [17:52] <ObrienDave> no, losing hair in #ubuntu ;P [17:55] <daftykins> ah i see [17:55] <daftykins> i'm almost tempted to rejoin and look but... [17:55] <ObrienDave> NO! DON'T DO IT! ;P [18:00] <daftykins> =] [18:01] <ObrienDave> oh boy, seen this nick before TheC4mel [18:02] <OerHeks> mk270 thing iirc [18:03] <ObrienDave> seems familiar [18:53] <ObrienDave> BTW vodka does make it funnier ;P [18:58] <daftykins> XD [18:59] <daftykins> i don't think i can drink the stuff anymore, that was my gateway drink as a kid [18:59] <daftykins> the one you are repulsed by even the smell of eventually [19:00] <histo> silly internet went down for two days [19:00] <daftykins> wow! that's pretty bad [19:00] <daftykins> had some rough weather recently where you are? [19:03] <histo> No just BS with the provider. [19:03] <daftykins> :/ [19:03] <histo> I call them they blame my equipment. I call them again more irate and explain to the retard that it's not my equipment. They finally get off their lazy ass and reset whatever [19:03] <histo> Sorry didn't know coc was inplace in here [19:05] <daftykins> did a bot slap you or something 0o [19:05] <daftykins> that was my local ISP's strategy often too, blame your hardware first so you go away :D [19:06] <ObrienDave> i think all ISP have the same troubleshooting script [19:06] <daftykins> :D [22:32] <lotuspsychje> good evening to all [22:33] <OerHeks> heya lotus [22:33] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: hello mate :p [22:33] <OerHeks> góódmorning [22:33] <lotuspsychje> lol [22:33] <lotuspsychje> im babysitting for someone who went clubbing [22:33] <lotuspsychje> kid sleeps now irc :p [22:35] <OerHeks> nice, now don type out loud [22:35] * lotuspsychje doesnt mate a sound [22:36] <ObrienDave> no using the original IBM PC keyboard ;P [22:50] <ObrienDave> moar vodka, daftykins ;P [22:51] <ObrienDave> and it's not getting funnier ;P [22:51] <OerHeks> I am sorry. [22:51] <lotuspsychje> :p [22:51] <daftykins> XD [22:51] <OerHeks> Mea Culpa, mea maxima culpa [22:51] <daftykins> so there *is* an optimum drinking #ubuntu ratio [22:51] * lotuspsychje likes wodka redbull [22:52] * OerHeks is on coffee with canesugar [22:52] <ObrienDave> no, the guy said the ISO failed the integrity check and someone insists he MD5 it anyway. sheesh [22:53] <ObrienDave> more vodka ;P [22:53] <lotuspsychje> lol [22:53] <ObrienDave> ooooooo i have cinnamon whiskey in the freezer! yummers [22:54] <lotuspsychje> so far for quality ubuntu discussions :p [22:54] <ObrienDave> LOL yea, i guess :) [22:54] <lotuspsychje> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/06/tickr-open-source-desktop-rss-news-ticker [22:55] <lotuspsychje> there, now were up to date again [22:56] <ObrienDave> hmm, i never did quite get the RSS thing. if i want news i can find it [22:57] <lotuspsychje> well the rss app for ubuntu phone is pretty handy for me [22:58] <ObrienDave> how is ubuntu-phone? i'm kinda getting tired of android [22:58] <lotuspsychje> very nice [22:58] <lotuspsychje> i run devel-proposed on my nexus7 (tablet) [22:59] <lotuspsychje> and runs very smooth [22:59] <ObrienDave> cool, i'll be getting new phone now that i've finished the move to denver. any suggestions? [23:00] <lotuspsychje> the new BQ phone, or that meizu [23:00] <lotuspsychje> ObrienDave: check #ubuntu-touch topic [23:01] <lotuspsychje> for now touch run mostly on nexus devices but many other projects also worked on [23:02] <ObrienDave> k, tnx [23:16] <OerHeks> There is no ubuntu phone announced in the US, is it? [23:18] <lotuspsychje> i read there was a 3rd brand will announce soon [23:18] <lotuspsychje> not sure where ive read that [23:18] <lotuspsychje> ans not sure it will be US [23:21] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: http://askubuntu.com/questions/574932/when-is-ubuntu-phone-touch-coming-to-the-u-s [23:22] <lotuspsychje> twitter: Now this is exciting! “@omgubuntu: Btw, USA folk, you'll get news about your very own #UbuntuPhone from an as-yet-unnamed OEM in June ;)”
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2015-06-06-#ubuntu
[00:00] <Ranger15> package [00:00] <shaque_> Outputs: INFO: /dev/kvm exists KVM acceleration can be used [00:00] <Ranger15> thats good [00:00] <Ranger15> what do you get when you do lsmod [00:00] <shaque_> now im just baffled why the vmx option is missin [00:01] <Ranger15> kvm_intel 151552 0 [00:01] <Ranger15> kvm 483328 1 kvm_intel [00:01] <Ranger15> Something like the above in it? [00:02] <shaque_> kvm, kvm_intel, vboxdrv, vboxpci, vmnet, and a bunch of other things (tried to pick vmware, virtualbox and kvm from the list) [00:03] <shaque_> kvm_intel 151552 0 [00:03] <shaque_> kvm 483328 1 kvm_intel [00:03] <Ranger15> dam what the hell [00:04] <shaque_> I read that some programs can "mask" procinfo, think it could be that? [00:04] <Ranger15> did you check dmesg for any of those messages [00:04] <shaque_> yea i did grep and manual search, no findings [00:04] <Ranger15> Thats good [00:04] <Fleet> why does /etc/apt/sources.list show different repositories than /etc/apt/sources.list.d [00:04] <Fleet> ? [00:05] <ki7rw> /msg nickserv identify win98sux [00:05] <Ben64> Fleet: sources.list are the ubuntu sources, sources.list.d contains user added repositories [00:05] <shaque_> ki7rw id change your password lol.. [00:05] <ki7rw> yep [00:06] <wastrel> kie4li#B [00:06] <Fleet> Ben64: ah, thanks....so repositories listed in sources.list that didn't come with a fresh install were added via apt-get or similar? [00:06] <shaque_> and what about win me and vista? :P [00:06] <ki7rw> anyway, anyone know what tcp port 20829 is? i don't see it listed in the list of tcp ports [00:06] <Ben64> Fleet: in sources.list.d they are added, like PPAs [00:06] <wastrel> random high-number port [00:06] <strtok> ki7rw: sure it's not a source port of something? [00:07] <ki7rw> maybe [00:07] <strtok> cq cq cq [00:07] <Fleet> Ben64: I guess my confusion is that I see sources listed in sources.list that I know I added after Ubuntu was installed....but some others I see in sources.list.d [00:07] <wastrel> ki7rw: netstat -an | grep 20829 [00:07] <ki7rw> i have skype running but i didn't think it would use that port [00:07] <Fleet> perhaps it's the way they were added that makes the difference? [00:07] <Ben64> Fleet: well if they're in sources.list, you added them in a weird way [00:08] <Fleet> i.e. when they were installed they added their own repositories [00:08] <ki7rw> tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:20829 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN [00:08] <wastrel> ki7rw: lsof -i :20829 [00:09] <daftykins> ki7rw: everything about 1024 is a non standard port as per IANA [00:09] <ki7rw> it's skype [00:09] <daftykins> no it's not allocated [00:09] <ki7rw> wish i could remember all these commands [00:09] <daftykins> just because a program uses a given port doesn't mean it's specific to that [00:09] <daftykins> write some notes, that's how you learn [00:09] <wastrel> yeah it picks a random free high-number port [00:09] <wastrel> so next time you run skype it'll probz choose a different one [00:10] <ki7rw> these commands aren't what i usually need - even if i write notes i'd probably lose them [00:11] <daftykins> ki7rw: so learn not to, good lord [00:11] <daftykins> we can't help you with paper management [00:12] <shaque_> Ranger15 so.. now its in the freaking list.. [00:13] <Ranger15> shaque_ what did you do [00:13] <shaque_> nothing lol [00:13] <shaque_> just tried the command again [00:14] <Ranger15> nice [00:14] <shaque_> i wonder if modprob fixed it, or the package i had to install for that command did :s [00:14] <Ranger15> modprobe might have [00:14] <shaque_> what does modprobe do exactly? [00:14] * ki7rw has a password manager - now to look for a command word manager? [00:15] <Ranger15> add modules [00:15] <Ranger15> adds [00:15] <shaque_> to the kernel? sorry this part of linux is new to me [00:15] <mikubuntu> i'm so useless. i forgot how to format usb stick to fat 32. i somehow managed to delete everything on the 14.84 gb stick, so gparted is showing me the device as 14.84 gb unallocated. so that's where i'm at, can someone walk me through the formatting process please [00:15] <Ranger15> wonder if it was there befor [00:15] <Ranger15> e [00:16] <Fleet> I think I understand now; thanks, Ben64 :-] [00:16] <Guest76733> Hello all. I’m trying to run a mailserver with dovecot and messed a couple things up. I’d like to start completely fresh (without wiping the system, of course). I’ve tried (Ubuntu 14.04) apt-get remove dovecot-common dovecot-imapd to completely remove them. I ran “dpkg -l dovecot\*” and the output is reporting that some things are installed while some things are not. The things that are not installed are actually installed though. #dovecot says [00:16] <Guest76733> this is a problem you all would be better able to help with. So how can I /completely/ remove dovecot and everything associated with it, then have it reinstall without thinking it has been before? Thank you [00:17] <shaque_> how do I find out, by rebooting? [00:17] <cowbacon> apt-get purge dovecot* [00:17] <SchrodingersScat> mikubuntu: gparted should be able to do that just fine, Partition > new ; or right click on the unallocated > new ; or it says 'Insert' works. [00:18] <shaque_> Ranger15 will rebooting and using lsmod tell me if its there? and if not how do i enable it by default? [00:19] <Ranger15> It should stay [00:19] <Jordan_U> stoiker2: What distribution were you booted into when you added the custom.cfg? It needs to be added from whichever distribution is currently controlling the MBR, or if you are booted into another distribution you need to add the custom.cfg to the path boot/grub/custom.cfg on sda4. For example, you might run "sudo mount /dev/sdb4 /mnt/; gksudo gedit /mnt/boot/grub/custom.cfg" to create the file in the appropriate place ... [00:19] <Jordan_U> ... (assuming your BIOS is configured to boot from sdb). [00:19] <Guest76733> cowbacon: apt-get doesn’t seem to see anything relating to dovecot. But if I try to do an apt-get install it won’t install it since it thinks it is already [00:21] <mikubuntu> SchrodingersScat: ok, so i hit new, and now i have to manage the partition i guess. i'm going to load ubuntu live on it so i need to know 'free space preceding,' 'new size,' free space following, align to ___, create as ___, file sys (ext), and label values.  What about apt-get autoremove ? [00:21] <Ranger15> shaque_ But it would not hurt to try while we are working on it. [00:22] <JusticeByTruth> " Do the disbelievers not see that the heavens and the earth were one mass, and We tore them apart? And we made from water every living thing. Will they not believe?" - Quran (The final book revealed by Allah - the creator of the heavens and earth) --------------- [00:22] <JusticeByTruth> Oh people, Worship Allah - alone with no partners and testify that Muhammad is his final messenger - Following prophet Abraham, Moses, and Jesus. Allah is one. The Creator of the heavens and the earth. Believe in Him and give thanks to Him as all praise is due to Him. Master of the Day of Judgement. Ultimate success is with Him. [00:22] <SchrodingersScat> mikubuntu: what are you using to put the image on? file system to fat32 if you want fat32 on it. [00:23] <mikubuntu> SchrodingersScat: ok, set filesys to fat32, what about all the other values? [00:25] <Guest76733> pnwise: That allowed me to reinstall it, but during the installation dovecot started spitting out warning that it wouldn’t replace files that I deleted (and are necessary for dovecot to function). How does it know I deleted them? Shouldn’t everything associated with dovecot be purged and installed as if it was the first time? [00:26] <pnwise> To be honest I am not really sure, It just helped me couple of times [00:26] <Guest76733> Okay. Thank you. This has been pretty frustrating now, I might just wipe the entire thing and start everything over [00:26] <shaque_> alright give me a few mins n ill check it out [00:28] <EriC^> Guest76733: you purged a package and reinstalled and then it said it won't replace anything you deleted before [00:28] <EriC^> ? [00:28] <SchrodingersScat> mikubuntu: up to you with how much space you want to give it. some tools may overwrite it anyway though. [00:28] <kulelu88> Hi. Why am I getting this error: E: Unable to locate package python-gtk2 ?? [00:28] <EriC^> !info kulelu88 [00:28] <EriC^> lol [00:28] <Guest76733> EriC^: yes that’s correct. It’s making configuration pretty painful and impossible [00:29] <mikubuntu> SchrodingersScat: i don't know what values to put on it [00:29] <kulelu88> !info python-gtk2 [00:29] <EriC^> Guest76733: that sounds odd [00:30] <Guest76733> Yeah. Something is really broken [00:30] <kulelu88> Does anybody use docker here? [00:30] <EriC^> Guest76733: can you type sudo apt-get purge <package> [00:30] <Guest76733> I’ll do it now [00:30] <Guest76733> Okay, did it. [00:31] <EriC^> Guest76733: ok, can you type sudo apt-get install <package> and pastebin what you get? [00:31] <EriC^> in paste.ubuntu.com? [00:31] <Guest76733> Sure. Please give me 20 seconds [00:31] <kulelu88> When trying to run a dockerfile, I get that error (E: Unable to locate package python-gtk2)... [00:32] <Guest76733> EriC^: Woah! I swear I’ve done that at least five times already but now it’s acting completely differently when installing it. Please give me a minute to verify it’s still not broken [00:33] <Guest76733> Just needed your magic words [00:33] <EriC^> Guest76733: ok, cool :D [00:34] <stoiker2> Jordan_U, I have no MBR on the disk that contains the encrypted partition to boot. It uses EFI, but the rest of my disks use MBR. What should I do? I tried the config file on every system. [00:34] <mikubuntu> SchrodingersScat: looks like this right now :: http://imagebin.ca/v/24FEOAfdYrV2 [00:35] <SchrodingersScat> mikubuntu: that should be fine if you like [00:35] <Guest76733> EriC^: Seems to have worked. Thank you so much, you just spared me hours of unnecessary work! :) [00:35] <Jordan_U> stoiker2: What distribution are you currently booted into? [00:35] <EriC^> Guest76733: great, no problem! :) [00:36] <mikubuntu> SchrodingersScat: i have no idea, that's why i'm here asking for help [00:36] <SchrodingersScat> mikubuntu: that's fine then, apply the changes [00:36] <stoiker2> Jordan_U, Ubuntu [00:37] <mikubuntu> SchrodingersScat: with '1' free space preceding? and '0' free space following? [00:38] <SchrodingersScat> mikubuntu: I don't think there's anything you can do about the 1 preceding [00:39] <Jordan_U> stoiker2: OK, and that is the distribution currently booted by default by your boot firmware? [00:40] <stoiker2> yes. [00:41] <Jordan_U> stoiker2: Great. Please pastebin the output of "cat /boot/grub/custom.cfg". [00:41] <Ranger15> shaque_ did you reboot? [00:45] <stoiker2> Jordan_U, http://pastebin.com/cwZKKMfv [00:46] <Jordan_U> stoiker2: And when you boot, you don't see a menu entry titled "Load encrypted install's grub.cfg"? Did you make sure to scroll down all the way to the bottom? [00:47] <shaque_> Ranger15 another 10 mins, waiting for 30 more pages to print first [00:47] <stoiker2> Jordan_U, I don't [00:48] <Jordan_U> stoiker2: Ahh, I see the problem. [00:49] <Jordan_U> stoiker2: This should be the contents: http://paste.debian.net/205431/ , with the '{' on the same line as the menuentry command. [00:49] <gshmu> `$ sudo update-grup` don't work, after i install new kernel 3.16.0-38 [00:49] <Jordan_U> stoiker2: My mistake. [00:49] <mikubuntu> SchrodingersScat: unetbootin not letting me proceed, says i must select a disk image (i thought i did) -- http://imagebin.ca/v/24FIx2aBOC66 [00:50] <Jordan_U> gshmu: What is the exact command you're running? Please pastebin its complete output. What problem are you having? [00:50] <gshmu> it always boot at 3.16.0-31, I removed. I edit the grub, [00:50] <stoiker2> Jordan_U, the placement of the brackets counts? [00:50] <SchrodingersScat> mikubuntu: hit the button with the "..." to find the iso you want to load. [00:51] <Jordan_U> stoiker2: Unfortunately, yes. [00:51] <stoiker2> okay; trying it [00:52] <gshmu> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11600502/ [00:54] <Jordan_U> gshmu: You installed grub-legacy. Don't ever "sudo apt-get install grub", the "grub" package gets you grub legacy, when what you really want is grub2 (which comes with Ubuntu by default). [00:54] <Jordan_U> gshmu: Assuming that you're using a BIOS based rather than UEFI based machine, "sudo apt-get install grub-pc" should fix the problem. [00:55] <gshmu> Jordan_U: Thanks [00:56] <stoiker2> Jordan_U, no dice. It says Press any key to continue. and it goes back to the selection screen. [00:56] <ramsub07> hello, I want to kill a process. when i did, $ps -fa | grep "name" , i'm getting dozens of it. Is there any alternative to finding the PID and killing it ? [00:57] <Jordan_U> stoiker2: What partition contains the /boot/ partition used with your encrypted install? [00:58] <stoiker2> some other partition on the third disk [00:59] <Jordan_U> stoiker2: Please determine the UUID or device name of that partition. [00:59] <stoiker2> and use that UUID instead of the encrypted disk UUID in the same code? [01:00] <dave_> Hi, I'm kind of confused about java on ubuntu, When i type java -version in consolse it says openjdk version "1.8.0_45-internal" [01:00] <dave_> OpenJDK Runtime Environment (build 1.8.0_45-internal-b14) [01:00] <dave_> OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 25.45-b02, mixed mode) [01:00] <dave_> but I just installed OPENJDK 7 from the software center and I'm trying to use openJDK 7 and don't see it in my programs [01:01] <Jordan_U> stoiker2: Yes, that UUID was never supposed to be the LUKS UUID, it is supposed to be the UUID of your (unencrypted) /boot/ partition (where your kernels for the encrypted installation are stored). [01:01] <daftykins> !java | dave_ [01:01] <daftykins> dave_: look into 'update-alternatives' [01:02] <stoiker2> Jordan_U, okay, I'll try it. [01:02] <dave_> daftykins, thank you [01:02] <Jordan_U> stoiker2: Did you find out the appropriate UUID? [01:03] <shaque> Ranger15 I have to go [01:03] <shaque> but its there now! [01:04] <shaque> upon reboot [01:04] <shaque> so ty [01:04] <shaque> i guess i just had to enable it? >.> i dunno the whole thing confuses me lol [01:04] <shaque> anyway ty! cya and thank you so much! [01:10] <stoiker2> Jordan_U, another step further! It got to the encrypted boot screen... sort of. It had no menu options and my hard drive light came on about every 5 seconds like it was looking for something. [01:12] <Jordan_U> stoiker2: Please pastebin your new menuentry. [01:14] <stoiker2> Jordan_U, http://pastebin.com/vXhaxLJD [01:15] <Jordan_U> stoiker2: How is that different from what it was previously? You say you got a step further, but what did you change? [01:16] <stoiker2> I changed the UUID [01:16] <stoiker2> your second revision is basically what it is [01:17] <carmen> hello xubunters [01:18] <Jordan_U> stoiker2: Why didn't you get the same result when I asked you to use my second revision then? [01:19] <stoiker2> Jordan_U, I changed the UUID because I didn't realize the UUID you were using was the UUID of the sdb boot partition [01:19] <stoiker2> I used the wrong UUID; you had it correct [01:21] <mikubuntu> SchrodingersScat: so, i'm following the instructions on this page for installing to the hp mini -- https://roomforcreativity.wordpress.com/2012/08/06/installing-ubuntu-12-04-on-hp-mini-210-1000/ -- after i selected 'try ubuntu without installing' the screen went black, and it seems frozen up [01:22] <Jordan_U> stoiker2: Please follow directions exactly, or at least make it clear when you are modifying them. Troubleshooting is that much harder when I think you're doing one thing and you're actually doing another. [01:22] <mikubuntu> no lights blinking [01:22] <Jordan_U> stoiker2: Can you be at the grub shell and on IRC (from a different machine) at the same time? [01:23] <stoiker2> Jordan_U, I thought the UUID was your UUID and I had to modify it. Went ahead of myself. [01:23] <stoiker2> Yes. I'll use stoiker 3 [01:24] <Grayman> Alright so I'm getting really frustrated and confused. I can't seem to get 15.04 (or previous versions) of 64 bit Ubuntu to run on my desktop machine. The issue is always wireless connectivity to my network. Thought it was my 32 bit wireless adapter but I installed a new 64 bit adapter today and still not joy. Any thought? [01:25] <Jordan_U> stoiker2: OK. Please reboot, and at the grub menu press "c" to get to the grub shell then run "ls" to list what drives/partitions are available to grub. [01:26] <Jordan_U> Grayman: What is a 32 bit vs 64 bit wireless adaptor? [01:27] <Grayman> Jordon if you look at the adapter if lshw you will see line that list it. I thought it strange too. [01:29] <kostkon> mikubuntu, why not 14.04. Try that first. [01:30] <mikubuntu> kostkon, i do have 14.04 on the stick, the help page is for an earlier version because i couldn't find a more up to date one [01:30] <kostkon> mikubuntu, ok [01:32] <mikubuntu> kostcon any idea why i might be getting the black screen? [01:32] <Jordan_U> stoiker2: Please tell me how many of your three drives appear to be listed in grub's "ls". [01:32] <Jordan_U> stroiker3: ^^ [01:32] <stroiker3> almost there, Jordan_U [01:33] <stroiker3> Oh! Hey! It worked [01:33] <stroiker3> It took two boots [01:33] <stroiker3> WOO! [01:33] <stroiker3> Thanks, Jordan_U ! Time to kick back and relax. [01:34] <Jordan_U> stroiker3: I'm glad it's working now :) [01:34] <kostkon> mikubuntu, hmm not really sure. You could try verifying your iso file and burning the iso on the stick again, just to exclude that possibility the iso or the write was bad [01:35] <kostkon> !md5sum [01:35] <mikubuntu> ok [01:37] <Ed4point0> yes! [01:38] <Ed4point0> lol [01:38] <Ed4point0> nice bryan [01:42] <Ed4point0> #NOsignal [01:54] <matt|home> sigh. evening. can someone tell me how to change the screen resolution via commandline? for some reason the gui app is -not- working [01:55] <matt|home> it's at 680x720 or something stupid, i need it at 1024x768 [01:55] <daftykins> xrandr [02:03] <matt|home> im having difficulty with my screen resolution.. is anyone available for help please? :< [02:05] <matt|home> it's stuck at a resolution that's too big. tried editing xorg.conf , tried changing it in the gui app but its just not sticking. so.. can anyone help please? [02:18] <Landon> running 15.04 server, upgraded since ... probably 10.04. I noticed I'm missing a lot of packages that seem to come in a fresh install (landscape-common and update-motd in particular) is there an easy way to diff my system vs a fresh install manifest? [02:19] <Utal> hi, i am having a problem with apt-get which says debconf: Perl may be unconfigured (Can't locate strict.pm in @INC (you may need to install the strict module) (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.18.2 /usr/local/share/perl/5.18.2 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.18 /usr/share/perl/5.18 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at (eval 1) line 2. [02:19] <Utal> BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at (eval 1) line 2. [02:19] <Utal> ) -- aborting [02:19] <Utal> Selecting previously unselected package uget. [02:19] <Landon> and find out what in particular I might never have gotten [02:19] <Utal> cd dpkg: warning: files list file for package 'qtdeclarative5-qtfeedback-plugin:amd64' missing; assuming package has no files currently installed [02:19] <Utal> dpkg: warning: files list file for package 'qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-ui-extras-browser-plugin:amd64' missing; assuming package has no files currently installed [02:21] <daftykins> !paste | Utal [02:21] <Utal> i am having a problem solving with apt-get http://paste.ubuntu.com/11600926/ [02:22] <Utal> daftykins, ubottu i am having a problem solving with apt-get http://paste.ubuntu.com/11600926/ [02:27] <Utal> i am having a problem solving with apt-get http://paste.ubuntu.com/11600926/ can anyone help me out [02:29] <OerHeks> Utal, we are missing the important part, what are you trying to install [02:30] <OerHeks> or what did you recently add/install [02:31] <Utal> OerHeks, i got into this problem while install dev stack ... after that everthing i am tring to install show this msg [02:33] <Utal> OerHeks, are you there [02:35] <daftykins> "dev stack" [02:35] <Utal> openstack developer editionn [02:35] <OerHeks> oh openstack/devstack [02:35] <mikubuntu> omg. this is driving me nuts. made a start stick of lubuntu 14.04 to install on an hp mini 1000, but i can't get it to boot through. when i select 'try w/o install' the screen just goes black and machine freezes. [02:36] <Utal> OerHeks, daftykins, so what sould i do [02:37] <daftykins> sorry i don't fancy this ticket [02:37] <daftykins> !nomodeset | mikubuntu try this [02:38] <OerHeks> find the openstack channel, #ubuntu-server or #openstack maybe? [02:38] <Bashing-om> !nomodeset ! mikubuntu Try this [02:38] <OerHeks> oh tons of openstack channels [02:39] <Bashing-om> !nomodeset | mikubuntu Try this [02:39] <daftykins> Bashing-om: err, wat [02:40] <Utal> but this is not a openstack problem ... this is a ubuntu problem ... atlest they told that ... [02:40] <daftykins> your install is pretty busted. [02:42] <Utal> daftykins, what sould i do ... [02:43] <OerHeks> Utal, it is an openstack issue i guess, but when you look at each line, solution for line 1 http://askubuntu.com/questions/578188/cannot-seem-to-be-able-to-resolve-tzdata-installation-error-problem [02:43] <OerHeks> sudo dpkg-reconfigure perl-base then try apt-get again [02:44] <Utal> OerHeks, i have gone through that .. i have talked even in the openstac forum but still no solution ... [02:45] <OerHeks> oh not worthy to mention what you tried already, eh? [02:45] <ObrienDave> would a OS reinstall be in order? [02:46] <daftykins> ^ yes [02:46] <daftykins> certainly be the shorter solution [02:48] <mikubuntu> daftykins: whoa. that nomodreset page is way over my head. [02:49] <mikubuntu> daftykins: not even sure which part of that page might apply to the hp mini 1000 [02:49] <Utal> daftykins, this is not the first time i have faced it infact i a have found a similar launchpad bug [02:50] <daftykins> mikubuntu: boot the flash drive, you should get the menu with try/install/etc - press F6 and enable nomodeset then try 'try' [02:50] <daftykins> i'd rather you had gotten that information from reading that page however. [02:50] <Utal> daftykins, this is not the first time i have faced it infact i a have found a similar launchpad bug [02:50] <daftykins> Utal: thats nice but until you sort out your broken packages you won't get anywhere. [02:50] <mikubuntu> daftykins: ok, i try [02:51] <Utal> daftykins, so how to do that ... [02:51] <daftykins> reinstall, because i don't want to help with that :) [02:51] <Apteryx> Hello! [02:51] <wastrel> no lie [02:52] <Utal> daftykins, https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/233317 can you check out the issue . [02:52] <daftykins> Utal: no [02:52] <ObrienDave> or install synaptic. it has a fix broken packages command [02:53] <mikubuntu> daftykins: pressing f6 din't do anything but reset the 'automatic boot' timer to 10 seconds [02:53] <daftykins> automatic boot? what [02:53] <daftykins> sigh. [02:54] <mikubuntu> daftykins: i'm assuming it was sposed to bring up a dialogue box? [02:54] <daftykins> mikubuntu: to be sure i'm talking about this: http://i.stack.imgur.com/X6dvz.png [02:55] <mikubuntu> daftykins: no, that box din't show up at all [02:56] <daftykins> then you either made this flash drive up with some other program that doesn't boot this way... or some other issue [02:56] <daftykins> i smell unetbootin [02:57] <Apteryx> If my system is running a RAID1, can I install grub in both drives MBR using grub-install /dev/sda && grub-install /dev/sdb ? [02:57] <Apteryx> And if grub is living in the MBR, I do not nee to set a boot partition? I'm a bit confused. [02:57] <mikubuntu> daftykins: i'm searching now http://lmgtfy.com/?q=nomodreset+hp+mini [02:57] <daftykins> mikubuntu: *nomodeset* [02:58] <daftykins> mikubuntu: and no, you're going about this completely wrong [02:58] <mikubuntu> oops [02:58] <daftykins> it has nothing to do with your system specifically [02:58] <daftykins> i'm just saying to boot the flash drive to the menu as shown in the image i referred to [02:58] <JokesOnYou77> Hi all. I'm trying to use bash parameter substitution to remove everything before the last dot "." in a string. But I'd like to get the dot in the return value. When I use "${VAR##*\.}" I don't get the dot :< [02:58] <daftykins> perhaps you made up this drive with something like unetbootin? [02:59] <daftykins> JokesOnYou77: ask in #bash [02:59] <ObrienDave> or Yumi [02:59] <mikubuntu> daftykins: you mean the flash drive, yes with unet [03:00] <daftykins> which OS did you make this drive from? [03:00] <daftykins> or rather, prepare this flash drive from? [03:00] <mikubuntu> daftykins: lubuntu 1404 [03:00] <Apteryx> Bashing-om: I think my problem has to do with my /boot partition not being seen by grub or something [03:01] <daftykins> mikubuntu: ok put the flash drive back in, then open a terminal and use 'dd' to write the ISO onto it. [03:01] <Bashing-om> !raid | Apteryx Instructions to install grub here [03:02] <mikubuntu> daftykins: whats dd? [03:02] <daftykins> an image writing application [03:02] <Bashing-om> Apteryx: Yhe one of interest here is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto . [03:02] <mikubuntu> from software center? [03:03] <daftykins> no it's already installed [03:03] <xiaorb> mikubuntu be careful with dd, make sure to use the right syntax or you can ruin your system [03:03] <mikubuntu> daftykins: never seen it on my system [03:03] <daftykins> that's because it's a command line utility [03:04] <daftykins> they don't tend to leap up and down in front of you :) [03:04] <daftykins> mikubuntu: anyway isn't this mini 10 some old rubbish netbook? [03:04] <Apteryx> Bashing-om: Ok, thanks :) [03:04] <xiaorb> mikubuntu open terminal and type man dd [03:04] <xiaorb> it will give your info on the program [03:05] <daftykins> xiaorb: given the above it is clear that that is NOT going to help this user. [03:05] <mikubuntu> daftykins: xiaorb, don't i have to download lubuntu again then, as i think unet just wrote directly to the stick from web [03:06] <xiaorb> daftykins: maybe not right now, perhaps in the future he will correlate [03:06] <daftykins> lol. [03:06] <xiaorb> xD lo [03:06] <xiaorb> l [03:06] <daftykins> mikubuntu: no it probably downloaded it somewhere [03:06] * xiaorb was doing yoda voice in brain [03:06] <daftykins> but anyway i would not expect for much from netbooks in this day and age [03:06] <daftykins> my advice is to throw them away [03:06] <xiaorb> yeah really hit it with a hammer first [03:07] <budnikov_kirill> 1 [03:07] <budnikov_kirill> hihi [03:07] <budnikov_kirill> this is test message [03:07] <budnikov_kirill> goodbye! [03:07] <budnikov_kirill> exit [03:07] <daftykins> budnikov_kirill: #1 please don't use this channel for pointless 'tests' - #2 you are running IRC as root [03:07] <daftykins> lul [03:08] <mikubuntu> what size hammer do you recommend [03:08] <xiaorb> summerfags [03:09] <daftykins> xiaorb: that's inappropriate talk for here [03:09] <daftykins> lets get back on topic now [03:10] <xiaorb> mikibuntu take the drive out and put it in your garbage disposal for 90 minutes with the water running [03:10] <xiaorb> and drop magnets in there periodically [03:10] <xiaorb> then throw the carcass in the road [03:10] <ObrienDave> !helpful [03:11] <mikubuntu> daftykins: so i know its not the greatest machine, but someone gave it to my sis she just wants to get on facebook and write a letter every now and then. [03:11] <ObrienDave> *sigh* they got rid of all the good factoids [03:13] <mikubuntu> i guess they gave it to her because the keyboard wasn't working. the little book was/is running xp. i took the battery off and held the start button for 30 secs as someone said to, and now the keyboard works again (in xp) [03:13] <daftykins> ObrienDave: might've been !behelpful that one [03:14] <ObrienDave> sometimes a good capacitor drain does wonders [03:14] <ObrienDave> !behelpful [03:14] <ObrienDave> yea, that one. thanks :) [03:14] <daftykins> mikubuntu: so download the lubuntu ISO again and assuming you also run lubuntu on your system, prepare the flash drive again with the ISO - without unbetootin this time. [03:15] <mikubuntu> daftykins: ok, i'll try [03:15] <ObrienDave> easier way is to burn ISO to DVD, use the live system to install it to the stick [03:16] <ObrienDave> i do all my stick installs that way [03:16] <xiaorb> ObrienDave, daftykins, okay sorry for the mischief and i wasn't calling mikbuntu a summerf@q i was referring to the irc as root dude xD [03:16] <aaana> help [03:16] <daftykins> xiaorb: regardless that's not cool here [03:16] <mikubuntu> ObrienDave: if you're talking to me, the target machine doesn't have any disc drives, its just a little netbook [03:16] <ObrienDave> ok [03:17] <ObrienDave> dang i hate netbooks already ;P [03:17] <aaana> i have mysql workbench on my Elementary OS [03:17] <xiaorb> daftykins, exactly, that was my apology [03:17] <daftykins> they were terrible when new and have only gotten worse [03:17] <daftykins> !elementary | aaana [03:17] <daftykins> sorry. can't help you here [03:17] <aaana> thank you for your information daftykins [03:21] <dupingping> how can i use lsbcc in ubuntu? [03:22] <xiaorb> if it works on linux it will work in ubuntu [03:24] <dupingping> xiaorb, you said me? [03:32] <xiaorb> dupingping what's lsbcc [03:32] <dupingping> Linux Standard Base C Compiler. [03:32] <STxAxTIC> not gcc? [03:34] <xiaorb> dupingping i don't see that pkg available have you tried using gcc as STxAxTIC has suggested? [03:35] <dupingping> ic [03:35] <xiaorb> dupingping: as root: apt-cache search compile [03:36] <dupingping> i know about gcc [03:36] <dupingping> but i just want to know lsbcc [03:36] <longdong> hello [03:36] <longdong> how do you get the ubuntu server lts 14.04 to boot when it cannot properly mount the usb drive [03:36] <dupingping> I heard that Ubuntu 12.04 precise follow lsb 4 standard. [03:36] <longdong> i want it to automatically skip the mounting if there is an error [03:36] <dupingping> but I could not create lsb program at 12.04 [03:37] <dupingping> longdong, I have no idea. [03:37] <thunderclap> get lsbcc here: http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/lsb/download [03:38] <dupingping> it shows me lsb5.0 [03:38] <dupingping> i just want lsb4.0 [03:39] <treelzebub> dupingping: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lsb/4.0-0ubuntu22 [03:41] <thunderclap> dupingping: ftp.linuxfoundation.org/pub/lsb [03:43] <dupingping> yes, thank you treelzebub, thunderclap. I'll try them. [03:44] <thunderclap> i saw some stuff in there labeled 4.0.0 and 4.1.0 [03:44] <thunderclap> good luck! [03:45] <thunderclap> also, thanks for letting me know about lsbcc [03:45] <thunderclap> looks interesting [03:58] <Sebastien> what is your favorite "panel" to use on your ubuntu box.? To manage everything, like emails, subdomains, ftp accounts? (cPanel-like) [03:58] <Sebastien> im getting tired of reading manuals [03:59] <daftykins> i do things manually. [03:59] <Sebastien> i don't [03:59] <Sebastien> this is why i ask [04:02] <thunderclap> why not use cpanel [04:04] <tripelb> !xubuntu tripelb [04:04] <daftykins> tripelb: you need the pipe between, or to PM ubottu directly and !trigger [04:04] <tripelb> !xubuntu | tripelb [04:05] <tripelb> Thanks daftykins [04:05] <daftykins> np [04:05] <wastrel> candyland [04:11] <adezero> hi [04:11] <daftykins> lo [04:12] <tripelb> What am I missing with xubuntu rather than ubuntu-gnome. (I have Google. I know it is not unity or Compiz) is it more like debian? [04:12] <tripelb> I have Googled it. [04:13] <daftykins> tripelb: what do you mean? are you asking what the desktop environment is in xubuntu? xfce. [04:13] <tripelb> No. I am Asking what programs I will miss and have to install. [04:14] <daftykins> why don't you just try it and find out? [04:14] <daftykins> i mean, how do we know what you use on ubuntu? :) [04:14] <tripelb> I have a HD with debian and I missed some things. In the.ahell. I think. daftykins [04:14] <daftykins> "the.ahell." ? [04:16] <tripelb> I want to known more than it is lighter. I installed it. I took the HD to where I have internet so I can update it. ... the shell is bash is terminal is cli [04:16] <xangua> you miss no software tripelb, any software you can install in Ubuntu you can install in xUbuntu [04:16] <xangua> you miss nothing* [04:35] <adezero> whois/ ahnberg [04:37] <michael_p> anyone know if nvida 760 is supported in 14 [04:38] <tripelb> adezero: /Whois nick and look for the response the status tab [04:39] <daftykins> michael_p: sure, may require a proprietary driver though. boot with nomodeset if you have a blank screen [04:39] <tripelb> xangua: so it isn't missing things like debian.is. the only difference is the GUI? [04:40] <michael_p> i am not game [04:40] <daftykins> michael_p: what? [04:40] <Sebastien> what is your favorite cpanel alternative? It's so expensive :( [04:42] <michael_p> i have only started using ubuntu [04:43] <Sebastien> i was asking everyone [04:45] <daftykins> michael_p: can you explain the situation then? are you having trouble booting? [04:46] <saurabh> hi, I'm using 14.04.2 on a 64bit system [04:46] <saurabh> dpkg: error processing package android-studio (--configure): [04:46] <saurabh> package android-studio is not ready for configuration [04:46] <saurabh> cannot configure (current status `half-installed') [04:46] <saurabh> Errors were encountered while processing: [04:46] <saurabh> android-studio [04:46] <daftykins> don't paste, run "sudo apt-get -f install" [04:47] <michael_p> if i did that i get appc proble failed starting at 219 [04:47] <saurabh> daftykins, that didn't fix my ProfessorKaos64 [04:48] <saurabh> daftykins, that didn't fix my problem. [04:49] <daftykins> saurabh: either show the output of it in a pastebin or i can't tell what's going on [04:49] <daftykins> also state what you installed [04:49] <daftykins> http://paste.ubuntu.com [04:51] <daftykins> michael_p: sounds like your boot media might not be good, md5 your download (unless it was a torrent) and then remake your flash drive [04:51] <saurabh> daftykins, http://pastebin.com/7Rig1tNC [04:52] <daftykins> saurabh: so now you're trying to remove it? [04:52] <neals> can anyone help me with making an ubuntu liveusb stick? [04:53] <saurabh> yeah, whatever works. I cannot install anything. [04:53] <EriC^^> neals: sure [04:53] <daftykins> saurabh: sudo dpkg -r --force-all android-studio [04:53] <EriC^^> neals: did you download the iso? [04:53] <neals> EriC^^: I did [04:53] <saurabh> daftykins, i fixed it thanks. [04:53] <neals> EriC^^: the issue is that the liveusb won't boot properly [04:54] <daftykins> jeez some people. [04:54] <EriC^^> neals: how did you make it? [04:54] <neals> EriC^^: with unetbootin [04:54] <samthewildone> Question, having a problem connecting to this vpn. The I followed the guide but still get an error failing to connect to vpn. [04:54] <neals> It will boot into the little ubuntu splash screen, but then it will error out [04:54] <EriC^^> neals: what does it say when it errors? [04:55] <samthewildone> This is the openvpn service guide I'm following > https://www.privatetunnel.com/index.php/kb-ubuntu-client.html [04:55] <neals> EriC^^: something along the lines of "can not mount /dev/loop0 usb" [04:55] <neals> I've looked for similar errors online, but none of the posted fixes I found worked [04:56] <samthewildone> oops [04:57] <samthewildone> Can anyone help me ? [04:57] <daftykins> not until you ask something [04:57] <EriC^^> neals: i've no idea about that [04:58] <EriC^^> neals: are you sure the usb is ok? [04:58] <Bashing-om> michael_p: " ACPI PPC Probe failed " most likely benign . See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2275310 (matt_symes) . [04:58] <neals> EriC^^: I think it is... is there a way to check? [04:58] <EriC^^> neals: you can try the integrity check in the menu [05:00] <neals> EriC^^: I'm in mint... is there a similar program I could use download? [05:00] <Geo> Hi, any ideas what would generate ' warning: cannot find alias database owner for hash:/usr/local/mailman/data/aliases(0,lock|no_regsub|no_proxy|no_unauth|fold_fix)' errors in syslog? [05:00] <EriC^^> neals: you mean you have mint installed as an os? [05:01] <neals> EriC^^: yup, I'm in mint 17 right now [05:01] <EriC^^> ok, you could boot the iso from grub [05:01] <neals> oh really? [05:02] <EriC^^> neals: yeah https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot [05:03] <EriC^^> neals: i'd checksum the iso [05:04] <EriC^^> md5sum /path/to/iso , and then compare with the md5sum on releases.ubuntu.com [05:04] <neals> EriC^^: that's a good idea, thanks :) [05:05] <EriC^^> no problem [05:08] <neals> EriC^^: is there any easy way to compare two hashes from the command line? [05:09] <daftykins> use your eyes [05:09] <daftykins> :) [05:09] <neals> i don't trust 'em ;P [05:10] <daftykins> oy vey [05:10] <neals> oh well, looks right :) [05:13] <EriC^^> neals: wget -q -O- https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes | grep $(md5sum /path/to/iso) [05:14] <EriC^^> if it shows it, then it found it on the page [05:15] <tripelb> daftykins: this is interesting but doesn't mention HOW xubuntu was unstable. http://mylinuxexplore.blogspot.com/2014/11/ubuntu-1410-vs-kubuntu-1410-vs-xubuntu.html?m=1 --- Ubuntu 14.04 gave me system errors so O replaced it with xubuntu 14.10 and I haven't signed in yet to see if I get the se.errors. (am on phone at home.) [05:16] <daftykins> i'm sorry tripelb but i don't understand you at all [05:16] <daftykins> going to bed now too o/ [05:17] <tripelb> daftykins: that is a link extensively comparing different types of Ubuntu 14.04 and I thought you might like it. [05:17] <daftykins> no thanks [05:18] <tripelb> Neveind my situation daftykins and thank you for your attention [05:18] <tripelb> Nevermind [05:18] <tripelb> No matter. [05:18] <xangua> *ubuntu is *ubuntu [05:18] <tripelb> Tautologies are similar [05:19] <tripelb> RAM was the biggest difference in performance. [05:20] <tripelb> GNU Linux rules. G'night mates [05:54] <mexson> Hello [05:57] <mexson> How to put a image in grub menu? [05:58] <mexson> Please help [06:00] <mexson> Hey anyone can help me to put a image in a grub menu [06:06] <Bashing-om> mexson: The best grub customizer I am aware of : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MaintenanceFreeCustomGrub2Screen . [06:13] <agent_white> Evenin' folks [06:16] <alocer> hi guys [06:16] <alocer> anyone know how can i connect more than 3 monitors to a case ? [06:16] <alocer> i dont want to cuplicate . [06:16] <alocer> duplicate* [06:16] <alocer> i need to extend them . [06:25] <saladin442> hello. i have an issue, for some reasons, capslock sometime swill be turned on, even though i've turned it off. it happens quite frequently. using ubuntu 15.04, on lenovo g485, keyboard layout set to us, and installed pidging|skype|corebird|thunderbird|firefox.. [06:25] <limbera> hiya, i'm about to swap my ssh port from 22 for security reasons [06:25] <limbera> i've read conflicting information online about it being a good and a bad idea [06:25] <limbera> can anyone shed some light on this for me [06:25] <HoloIRCUser1> Hi! How do I remove evolution without installating abiword? [06:34] <rwp> limbera, Why do you want to move the ssh port? Are you familar with fail2ban? Just install fail2ban instead. [06:34] <limbera> i was planning on doing both [06:34] <rwp> if you move the port there will be almost no hits against it. [06:34] <rwp> So nothing for fail2ban to do on a non-standard port. [06:34] <limbera> is that not a good thing? [06:35] <rwp> But on the other hand with fail2ban active there isn't a need to move the port either. [06:35] <rwp> It isn't bad or good. It just is what it is. [06:35] <limbera> ok [06:35] <limbera> sure [06:36] <rwp> To be clear it is okay to move the port. A lot of people do. [06:37] <rwp> I don't on my servers. Because fail2ban is plenty good enough by itself. [06:45] <agent_white> ^ [06:45] <limbera> ok I'm configuring fail2ban as we speak [06:46] <limbera> i'm assuming the default settings are sane enough? [06:50] <rockworldmi> hi all anyone knows how to get image in RSS field using obj-c? [06:52] <nesto> I want to buy an HP slatebook (android 4.3 preinstalled) but only if it's easy to install unbuntu on it. Is it a good idea or will there be issues installing ubuntu? [06:53] <rockworldmi> nesto: check device drivers and slate is touch so check if its supppored [06:54] <brainwash> nesto: there is also #ubuntu-touch [06:54] <nesto> thank =) [06:55] <limbera> do i actually need to "start" fail2ban? [06:55] <limbera> or just installing and setting config files is enough? [06:56] <samthewildone> is there a way to have wifi connect automatically? [07:05] <limbera> are these ufw settings adequate to allow SSH and normal web traffic to my web app? [07:05] <limbera> http://dpaste.com/1PR2SVN [07:07] <kali_> hi [08:09] <Samul`> firefox just keeps crashing on ubuntu 15.04 [08:09] <Samul`> it started like 5 minutes ago [08:09] <Samul`> and now every single time I open it, it crashes after a sew seconds [08:09] <Samul`> I had a lot of tabs, I closed a lot [08:09] <Samul`> but it still crashes [08:10] <Samul`> how can I fix this? [08:11] <benishor> hello [08:11] <benishor> anyone managed to get baudline working in ubuntu 14.04+? [08:13] <levo> [LXDE] hi, I tried to set right alt, or caps for compose key, (setxkbmap -option "compose:ralt") but it didn't have any effect. [i pressed and released right alt then i typed o and after that c but instead of writing copyright sign it just typed o [08:23] <gamer5> Free hosting by 4DY.co MySQL and PHP5 Enabled. Find out more at http://hosting.4dy.co [08:26] <levo> gamer5: no ads [08:33] <oddone_> Hello, I've got a problem with installing arch based distro, after using antergos. I'm getting this error. I got it after messing something with bumblebee, and now any distro except manjaro refuses to work. http://i.imgur.com/7r8nDyD.jpg [08:35] <brainwash> oddone_: this is #ubuntu [08:36] <oddone_> Yes, but any distro including ubuntu do not want to work. [08:36] <frthtfh> Hardware? [08:38] <oddone_> I've tried installing win8.1/win7 and they work without any problem. [08:58] <levo> setxkbmap -option compose:rctrl [-layout us] doesn't work for me, and setxkbmap -verbose 10 doesn't show my compose changed option [09:27] <cajetanus> /list [09:27] <cajetanus> [09:42] <ibrahim> HI. I need help with postfix on a local server [09:52] <NAoH> Hey guys, can anyone help me figure out what's going on with my ubuntu server [09:54] <NAoH> Anyone got any experience with setting up a simple apache server? [09:54] <MaxBadran> exit [09:54] <MonkeyDust> NAoH there's also #ubuntu-server [09:54] <NAoH> thanks mate [09:57] <levo> where does the configuration for setxkbmap are stored? when I use setxkbmap -option to change the option it doesn't have any effects but when I used keyboard layout handler (gui) it changes the settings that (setxkbmap -verbose 10) shows. [10:01] <mahi> hello [10:01] <mahi> i cant mout the disk [10:02] <mahi> any one there [10:02] <blackflow> mahi: describe "can't mount" [10:03] <mahi> when i clik on the disk it give error [10:03] <bekks> which one...? [10:03] <int-main> what is the error [10:04] <mahi> you can ssh to my laptop [10:04] <bekks> Just tell us the error. [10:04] <mahi> Error mounting /dev/sda2 at /media/mahi/mahi: Command-line `mount -t "ntfs" -o "uhelper=udisks2,nodev,nosuid,uid=1000,gid=1000" "/dev/sda2" "/media/mahi/mahi"' exited with non-zero exit status 14: The disk contains an unclean file system (0, 0). [10:04] <mahi> Metadata kept in Windows cache, refused to mount. [10:04] <mahi> Failed to mount '/dev/sda2': Operation not permitted [10:04] <mahi> The NTFS partition is in an unsafe state. Please resume and shutdown [10:04] <mahi> Windows fully (no hibernation or fast restarting), or mount the volume [10:04] <mahi> read-only with the 'ro' mount option. [10:05] <blackflow> lol [10:05] <blackflow> The usual, and pretty self-explanatory problem. [10:06] <mahi> then what to do [10:06] <bekks> The error message tells you what to do. [10:07] <mahi> i am new user of ubuntu and i just install 15.04 os [10:07] <bekks> "Please resume and shutdown Windows fully (no hibernation or fast restarting), ..." [10:07] <mahi> i have allredy tried [10:08] <int-main> mahi- it easy, use ntfsfix [10:08] <mahi> in terminal [10:08] <int-main> sudo ntfsfix /dev/sda2 [10:08] <int-main> yeah terminal [10:09] <mahi> ok i am trying [10:09] <int-main> Tell me if it works. [10:09] <levo> it seems i can't change any options with setxkbmap. why is this? [10:10] <mahi> yes it works thank u [10:10] <mahi> so much [10:10] <mahi> thank ..thank... [10:10] <int-main> mahi- check your PM [10:10] <mahi> pm means [10:11] <int-main> Private Message [10:11] <int-main> There should be a dailog with my nick somewhere mahi [10:14] <mikubuntu> does 'make start disk' utility do usb, or only cd/dvd? [10:14] <int-main> I guess only USB [10:29] <SirMoo> So... Can't seem to get 911: First Responders/Emergency 4 to work. Complains of no Mpeg 1 demuxer... (I think it's this? https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9127 )... Followed wine's guide people have left.. but no luck... Any ideas? (using the repo wine 1.7) Wine IRC seems... deadish. [10:30] <MonkeyDust> SirMoo is that a game? [10:31] <SirMoo> Indeed. [10:31] <brainwash> SirMoo: #winehq seems deadish? you have no patience [10:32] <SirMoo> brainwash: Pft. I consider no response in 30 minutes deadish... [10:32] <brainwash> wow [10:32] <SirMoo> Or 20... [10:32] <SirMoo> Ha! I love how I get a response now.. [10:32] <MonkeyDust> SirMoo it is night in the US of A, better wait until they wake up, alot more people here, then [10:33] <Johnny_Linux> its morning [10:33] <brainwash> according to the linked bug report, it's a bug. how should we be able to help you with it? [10:34] <Johnny_Linux> and last nite being a friday, good luck [10:34] <SirMoo> It seems more hit or miss. I'm further wanting to know if there is a way around i. [10:36] <brainwash> maybe worth a try: use playonlinux to install the game. this way you can easily switch between different wine versions [10:36] <SirMoo> I am slightly confused on how to do that when it's installed via wine. [10:36] <SirMoo> Sorry, steam. [10:37] <brainwash> then install steam via playonlinux and point it to the already installed game files [10:37] <r-a-x> my system is unable to resolve the dns, I am trying to access the web with wireless lan [10:38] <r-a-x> i have configured the /etc/resolv.conf [10:38] <brainwash> SirMoo: other than that, you will have to wait until someone replies in #winehq [10:38] <bekks> r-a-x: And the setting in /etc/resolv.comf are overwritten as the first line of that file tells you :) [10:39] <r-a-x> bekks: i was not having resolv.conf file so I created it with the following content [10:39] <r-a-x> search example.com [10:40] <r-a-x> nameserver 8.8.8.8 [10:40] <r-a-x> nameserver 8.8.8.4 [10:40] <bekks> r-a-x: Do you use NetworkManager for connecting your wifi? [10:42] <r-a-x> bekks: i don't know about that i just connet normally my system connects automatically with the wifi [10:43] <bekks> r-a-x: Then it uses NetworkManager and overwrites the settings in /etc/resolv.conf [10:43] <bekks> r-a-x: configure the DNS entries in the settings of your wifi connection. [10:44] <SirMoo> brainwash: Seems that way. :( It's mostly full of zombies. [10:44] <r-a-x> bekks: than i also have to provide a ip address manually ?? [10:44] <bekks> r-a-x: No. [10:45] <r-a-x> bekks: okay [10:45] <r-a-x> bekks: do i need to reboot the system [10:45] <r-a-x> ?? [10:46] <knx> Hello everyone I really need help here, I have suffered ruin my MATE-terminal so it does not start anymore, is there any way to restore it on? My OS is Ubuntu MATE 1.8.2 [10:46] <bekks> r-a-x: Its not Windows, so "no". :) [10:47] <bekks> knx: So what have you done to it? [10:47] <knx> i try to insert ascii to startup command [10:47] <bekks> Where? [10:47] <r-a-x> bekks: but still i am unable to ping google.com [10:48] <knx> sorry for poor english, i'm swedish [10:48] <r-a-x> bekks: from terminal [10:48] <bekks> r-a-x: So did you reconnect your wifi, after configuring the DNS entries? [10:48] <r-a-x> bekks: yes [10:50] <knx> bekks: this is what i try to do -> http://askubuntu.com/questions/223836/how-can-i-have-the-terminal-starting-with-ascii-banner [10:50] <knx> and i insert the command in terminal settings [10:50] <bekks> knx: So did you try to revert what you have done? [10:51] <knx> bekks: i try but when i try to start the terminal it shows for like 2sec so i can't go to settings :( [10:52] <knx> i have even try to reinstall it true program manager but not success :/ [10:53] <r-a-x> bekks: when i ping some external ip i get 57% packet loss, but my window maschine gets 0% packet loss [10:54] <bekks> r-a-x: Your windows machine is irrelevant :P [10:55] <bekks> r-a-x: Seems like you have a serious wifi issue, instead just a DNS issue. Which wifi chipset do you use? [10:55] <r-a-x> bekks: how to find that [10:55] <bekks> r-a-x: do you use a usb wifi? [10:55] <r-a-x> bekks: no [10:56] <bekks> r-a-x: so pastebin the output of "lspci | grep -i net" please. [10:56] <bekks> !pastebinit | r-a-x [10:56] <knx> bekks: do u have any clue how to restore the terminal settings ? [10:56] <bekks> knx: you could try to remove the config file. [10:56] <knx> bekks: where can i found it ? [10:57] <eduardo_> i need some help configuring vpn, it appears in gray and i cant save the new connection i create [10:57] <eduardo_> i want to connect to my university [10:57] <bekks> knx: I guess somewhere under .config/ -- I havent used that terminal myself yet. [10:58] <knx> okey [10:59] <BuzzardBuzz> you may need to instal some of the needed VPN package dependancies to set up your open vpn to your likeling [11:01] <eduardo_> BuzzardBuzz i dont think so i installed them, i enter in the configuration settings... and just cant save it... i also tried as root and rebooting...... [11:01] <BuzzardBuzz> to get vpn working were you given an import file that explains all the needed settings for your connection [11:02] <eduardo_> BuzzardBuzz no my connection has user and password so i choose this option in openvpn [11:02] <r-a-x> bekks: http://pastebin.com/c4RG38DH [11:03] <BuzzardBuzz> you need to know much more than just login username and password to get a connection working [11:05] <BuzzardBuzz> you will likely also need a server certificate and the protocol and the cipher for the connection and the keysize and the cipher for the authorization [11:05] <eduardo_> BuzzardBuzz the server name (tunelsalu.udl.cat) where i want to connect just it.... [11:05] <eduardo_> this is in linux ? in windows they didnt ask me for anything like you say.... [11:06] <BuzzardBuzz> the additional things are needed and usually provided with an import file that contains this data [11:07] <eduardo_> i have connected from windows without that data without problems, just create new vpn, server remote address, login and password thats it.... and thats what they ask me in the setiings in ubuntu [11:08] <BuzzardBuzz> what platform the vpn uses is independant of the connection parameters that are used for making a vpn tunnel connection [11:09] <BuzzardBuzz> it sounds like you are explaining that the default connection parameters worked fine for a connection that you have made previously [11:12] <BuzzardBuzz> so from the terminal you can do some vpn things that may help you figure out where the issue is with network-manager for the vpn grayed out issue [11:12] <visit0r3> Hello folks. I just installed ubuntu 15.04 64 bits on an hp pavillion dm3 with hybrid graphics geforce g105m, the system seems to be working with the nouveau drivers for the nvidia card which makes the computer run very hot. How can I get the intal card to work instead. Is bumblebee the way to go ? if so can you recommend me a tutorial to follow. thx. [11:17] <eduardo_> BuzzardBuzz Is in spanish but easy to understand http://imagebin.ca/v/24IMbAjxn8iI [11:18] <eduardo_> with that configuration in windows i can connect and i dont need anything else... im trying from ubuntu as i said i can save the new connection.... [11:18] <r-a-x> bekks: are you there ? [11:19] <BuzzardBuzz> do you have the network-manager-openvpn-gnome package installed? [11:20] <eduardo_> BuzzardBuzz yes, if i didnt i couldnt enter in settings ... i want to adapt to ubuntu this little tutorial.... http://imagebin.ca/v/24INV3jhtFR3 [11:21] <Guest94175> I need some help, I 've installed Lubuntu 15.04 and I want to change the resolution of the greeter and the plymouth loading screen. [11:25] <Kev01> Hi [11:27] <BuzzardBuzz> it appears that you have the certificate field populated in the setup, but you said that all you needed was user name and password, how did you figure out what certificate to place in that field? [11:28] <eduardo_> It says no certificate, i didnt use any certificate in windows [11:29] <eduardo_> BuzzardBuzz ninguno in english is nothing no certificate sorry [11:29] <BuzzardBuzz> maybe i am having issue with trying to read spanish, i read english much better [11:32] <BuzzardBuzz> so you can enter your connection preferences ok but when you try to save the connection then no connection is saved to be presented as a connection that you can use? [11:33] <BuzzardBuzz> or the save button is grayed out? [11:35] <eduardo_> BuzzardBuzz as you can see in the attached image the save button is grayed out [11:35] <eduardo_> ive tried the same as root so is not about permissions i think... [11:36] <bekks> eduardo_: did you install "network-manager-openvpn"? [11:36] <eduardo_> BuzzardBuzz Guardar is save in english... so you have a free master class in spanish ajajajjaja [11:37] <eduardo_> bekks yes, because without it i wouldnt have the option to enter in settings to configure a new vpn connection [11:38] <bekks> eduardo_: ah ok. [11:38] <mikubuntu> damn hp mini, it wants to load lubuntu live 1404, but screen blacks out just after splash screen with 'try w/o install' option -- which, according to this page: https://roomforcreativity.wordpress.com/2012/08/06/installing-ubuntu-12-04-on-hp-mini-210-1000/ i NEED to run live first to use gparted to alter partitions. also, someone had suggested i get into f6 to click nomodeset, which i did, but still goes to black screen. [11:39] <eduardo_> bekks could you take a look to the little tutorial i want to "import" to ubuntu....http://imagebin.ca/v/24INV3jhtFR3 [11:40] <BuzzardBuzz> the save button becomes ungrayed as soon as you provide the needed server certificate in addtion to the already provided server url, username, and password [11:41] <BuzzardBuzz> the server certificate is not optional for this type of connection for openvpn [11:42] <eduardo_> BuzzardBuzz i dont have any certificate and if you take a look to the windows tutorial they dont use any either.... perhaps another type of vpn ? [11:43] <BuzzardBuzz> did you provide the windows tutorial to preview? [11:43] <BuzzardBuzz> if you did i misunderstood where you provided that [11:46] <eduardo_> BuzzardBuzz yes, i have created one net using point to point to protocol, have to test if it works.... http://imagebin.ca/v/24INV3jhtFR3 [11:47] <eduardo_> download it is a pdf [11:48] <BuzzardBuzz> ok because the posted link just shows a missing picture for the windows tutorial for my browser [11:49] <eduardo_> BuzzardBuzz you click on the missing picture and downloads a pdf file... [11:49] <BuzzardBuzz> let me try that [11:49] <mikubuntu> damn hp mini, it wants to load lubuntu live 1404, but screen blacks out just after splash screen with 'try w/o install' option -- which, according to this page: https://roomforcreativity.wordpress.com/2012/08/06/installing-ubuntu-12-04-on-hp-mini-210-1000/ i NEED to run live first to use gparted to alter partitions. also, someone had suggested i get into f6 to click nomodeset, which i did, but still goes to black screen. [11:53] <eduardo_> BuzzardBuzz as point protocal doesnt work either... i could pass as private my login and pass to try.... [11:59] <mikubuntu> damn hp mini, it wants to load lubuntu live 1404, but screen blacks out just after splash screen with 'try w/o install' option -- which, according to this page: https://roomforcreativity.wordpress.com/2012/08/06/installing-ubuntu-12-04-on-hp-mini-210-1000/ i NEED to run live first to use gparted to alter partitions. also, someone had suggested i get into f6 to click nomodeset, which i did, but still goes to black screen. [12:00] <BuzzardBuzz> ok, usually an openvpn connection needs two files to set it up. one file has exentsion .ovpn and the other file is the server certificate. For windows is is common to bundle these files into an executable installer to make it easy for the user [12:01] <eduardo_> BuzzardBuzz well in windows i have done in windows 10 and only has to create new vpn connection, server address, user and pass and thats it... no certificate, no install.... is there any way to enter using ubuntu ?? [12:01] <BuzzardBuzz> i beleive that one certificate is the least possible for an open vpn connection, some open vpn connection types use three certificates [12:02] <Doc-Saintly> I have trouble with Ubuntu not auto-detecting monitors on my machine :\ It seems that if I replug the monitor while it's on, it can't seem to get the output correct and doesn't show anything. When I remote in, I can still see the video rendering at the old resolution. However, once I hit the power button to restart it, the monitor kicks back on so I can watch it shut down ~.~ [12:02] <Doc-Saintly> I saw some posts about this and creating various scripts to try to remedy this - but I don't think something this basic should require a fix. Is there a bug in Ubuntu? [12:02] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all [12:03] <BuzzardBuzz> the certificate is not installed it is just a file pointer to a file that contains the certificate data information [12:04] <sireorion> Kernel panic - not syncing attempted to kill the idle task! what do i do wrong ? [12:05] <eduardo_> BuzzardBuzz is there any option to connect from ubuntu ? Any plan B ? thanks for your patience [12:05] <eduardo_> as said i could let my user and pass if you need to test [12:05] <BuzzardBuzz> when you browse to a url on windows browser then the server certificate is presented to the browser so you can get the certificate easily, it is not secret data [12:11] <BuzzardBuzz> also the url for the desired openvpn connection is currently not pinging as alive right now [12:12] <BuzzardBuzz> when it becomes alive you can get the certificate from the server and then you can connect to it [12:13] <BuzzardBuzz> you can get the cetificate from your browser [12:14] <BuzzardBuzz> for the desired server [12:14] <mikubuntu> damn hp mini, it wants to load lubuntu live 1404, but screen blacks out just after splash screen with 'try w/o install' option -- which, according to this page: https://roomforcreativity.wordpress.com/2012/08/06/installing-ubuntu-12-04-on-hp-mini-210-1000/ i NEED to run live first to use gparted to alter partitions. also, someone had suggested i get into f6 to click nomodeset, which i did, but still goes to black screen. [12:15] <BuzzardBuzz> once you are able to point the connection manager field to a file that contains a copy of the certificate data then it will let you save the connection [12:16] <BuzzardBuzz> once that is saved then you can connect to it [12:17] <BuzzardBuzz> for more information about the minimum certificate requirements for any open vpn connection please visit openvpn website [12:38] <benishor> hi, I'm attempting to upgrade from 14.10 to 15.04 and do-release-upgrade fails without really giving me any reason [12:38] <benishor> it just says: [12:38] <benishor> Calculating the changes [12:38] <benishor> Could not calculate the upgrade [12:38] <mikubuntu> damn hp mini, it wants to load lubuntu live 1404, but screen blacks out just after splash screen with 'try w/o install' option -- which, according to this page: https://roomforcreativity.wordpress.com/2012/08/06/installing-ubuntu-12-04-on-hp-mini-210-1000/ i NEED to run live first to use gparted to alter partitions. also, someone had suggested i get into f6 to click nomodeset, which i did, but still goes to black screen. [12:38] <benishor> An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade. [12:39] <benishor> any idea on what I can do? [12:39] <BluesKaj> benishor, make sure your packages are all up to date first [12:39] <benishor> apt-get update + apt-get upgrade? [12:40] <bandrami> mikubuntu try booting with acpi_backlight=vendor [12:40] <BluesKaj> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade benishor [12:41] <benishor> BluesKaj: ok, I just did that. I had some packages that were held back and installed them with apt-get dist-upgrade. Now I am running do-release-upgrade again [12:41] <benishor> apparently it can calculate the changes [12:41] <benishor> thank you BluesKaj! [12:42] <benishor> let's hope the release will work right out of the box [12:42] <bekks> benishor: apt-get dist-upgrade instead of apt-get upgrade. [12:42] <bekks> That will update your kernel as well, e.g. [12:43] <benishor> bekks: yes, I ran dist-upgrade and then do-release-upgrade managed to calculate the differences. thanks! [12:44] <melbaubuntu> Heey guys, question here. How far is ubuntu with the ubuntu phone for HTC one M8? [12:45] <blakwire> folks I am trying to 'sudo apt-get update' but I get this error: [12:45] <blakwire> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11603179/ [12:45] <blakwire> should I reinstall the whole ubuntu? [12:46] <compdoc> blakwire, it might just be a problem with that mirror hosting the file [12:46] <blakwire> so how to fix? [12:46] <compdoc> blakwire. how long has this been happening? [12:46] <blakwire> today [12:46] <compdoc> just wait a few hours [12:47] <compdoc> maybe one day [12:47] <blakwire> you joking? [12:47] <compdoc> no [12:47] <blakwire> right? [12:47] <melbaubuntu> what are you trying to install blakwire? [12:47] <mikubuntu> bandrami: sry i was out of the room. isn't that one of the f6 options? [12:47] <blakwire> trying to update the sys [12:47] <melbaubuntu> just sudo apt-get update should work? lol [12:47] <blakwire> compdoc : it feels like you are [12:47] <dreamcat4^> hello! i'm on 15.04 upgraded from 14.10. but i find these days some apps use up a lot of the RAM - like java apps, firefox, sublime text [12:48] <bekks> blakwire: Remove that file, try again. [12:48] <blakwire> hi dearest bekks [12:48] <blakwire> how can I or should I do that? [12:48] <bekks> blakwire: Open a terminal, remove the file. [12:48] <blakwire> gotcha [12:48] <dreamcat4^> and compiz too - it kindda feels like it's leaking (along with all those other apps each leaking too). it adds up [12:49] <bandrami> mikubuntu when you say "f6" do you mean the options to GRUB? [12:49] <dreamcat4^> sure would be nice to have 8GB ram instead of the 4 i've got [12:49] <mikubuntu> bandrami: is that the option 'acpi=off' ? and if so, should i still have nomodeset ticked as well? [12:50] <bandrami> nomodeset shouldn't be an issue with a black screen; that's normally about the kernel knowing what ACPI mode to use [12:50] <bandrami> keep acpi=off for now, but append acpi_backlight=vendor [12:50] <bandrami> (with a space between them) [12:50] <mikubuntu> bandrami: when i tick f6, options are acpi=off, noapic, nolapic, nodmraid, nomodeset, and free software only [12:51] <bandrami> Hm [12:51] <bandrami> Reboot, and press shift while it comes up to bring up the GRUB menu. On "Ubuntu X.Y" (or whatever) press "e" [12:51] <blakwire> bekks: I did 'sudo rm us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_trusty_main_i18n_Translation-en%5fUS' and ran 'apt-get update' again but no good [12:51] <mikubuntu> hmmm .. lol [12:51] <blakwire> still the prblm is there [12:52] <compdoc> the mirrors are not perfect [12:52] <mikubuntu> bandrami: is that instruction for me [12:53] <blakwire> bekks : ? [12:54] <mikubuntu> bandrami: oh, i just see your other instruction, about appending acpi+backlight=vendor -- not sure what you mean [12:54] <blakwire> folks ? [12:54] <bandrami> mikubuntu: yes. You need to append the string "acpi_backlight=vendor" (NOT "acpi+backlight=vendor") to the kernel boot string [12:55] <azizLIGHT> what pdf editor can i use to fill out forms and do some page deletion and page rotations, and combining multiple pdf files together? [12:55] <blakwire> why no one helps me? [12:56] <mikubuntu> bandrami: i couldn't do that without strict supervision -- could you walk me through it? [12:56] <kate> hello hello... is bluetoothctl no longer provided by the bluez package? [12:56] <BluesKaj> blakwire, open the /etc/apt/sources.list file as root and place a # in front of the deb line(s) saqve the file then update and upgrade [12:56] <compdoc> just wait a few hours. maybe one day [12:56] <bandrami> mikubuntu: I can try? Is it a different computer from the one you are chatting on now? [12:56] <mikubuntu> yes -- its an hp mini 1000 netbook [12:56] <mikubuntu> have it right here beside me [12:58] <BluesKaj> blakwire, the # in front prevents the repos from being read [12:58] <bandrami> OK. Reboot and press Shift as it comes back up [12:58] <bandrami> You should get a GRUB menu; please tell me what it says [12:58] <chetan> hi guys, I have a nexus tablet and i am trying to download packages but it says no space available [12:58] <mikubuntu> bandrami:right now i looking at the splash screen ('try w/o install,' etc) and the little menu that starts with acpi=off is open) [12:58] <bandrami> OH! You're still on the live media? [12:59] <bandrami> Sorry, that was the part I missed [12:59] <mikubuntu> bandrami: yes, i cannot get it to boot past that [12:59] <blakwire> there are no #s at the begining of any deb lines in that file, only these:# deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu trusty partner [12:59] <blakwire> # deb-src http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu trusty partner [13:00] <bandrami> OK. Highlight "Try Ubuntu without installing" and press "e". (this may or may not work depending on the bootloader involved.) [13:00] <blakwire> which i belive should be that way [13:00] <blakwire> all the other deblines are without #s folks [13:01] <BluesKaj> blakwire, you have to place a # in front of the url that is causing the problem [13:01] <mikubuntu> bandrami: but hp mini supposedly has feature that it only has 4 partitions that have to be repartitioned to accept the new OS, so that's why i need to run live (i guess) according to this page: https://roomforcreativity.wordpress.com/2012/08/06/installing-ubuntu-12-04-on-hp-mini-210-1000/ [13:02] <bandrami> mikubuntu the platform doesn't care how many partitions you have, though the kernel may [13:02] <blakwire> switched to main server [13:02] <BluesKaj> blakwire, all the others are repos that can be read and those are fine , it's the one that's not working that you need to comment with a # [13:03] <blakwire> BluesKaj: lets see how the main server treats me [13:04] * BluesKaj shrugs , ok but make sure you update first [13:06] <bandrami> mikubuntu: got to run for a bit. Will be back in maybe 20. Best of luck, and if it's still not working I'll check in [13:06] <mikubuntu> bandrami: ok [13:07] <chetan> how to degrade ubuntu touch to ubuntu 13.04 [13:09] <baris> Hey all, I tried installing nvidia-current on my macbookpro10,1 and then after reboot just got black screen, had to reinstall, can anyone offer a solid guide on getting this right? [13:10] <leafybasil> Hey all, I tried installing nvidia-current on my macbookpro10,1 and then after reboot just got black screen, had to reinstall, can anyone offer a solid guide on getting this right? [13:10] <leafybasil> Yipes. Sorry for repeat [13:15] <MonkeyDust> chetan explain your issue, maybe there's a solution other than going to a dead release [13:17] <bunty> hi guys, i have a nexus 7 and ubuntu touch installed on it. but it doesn't have a gstreamer available. I tried downloading but it then there is no gcc compiler. while downlaoding it says no space available. please help me I want to use gstreamer to stream one live video. [13:18] <mikubuntu> damn hp mini, it wants to load lubuntu live 1404, but screen blacks out just after splash screen with 'try w/o install' option -- which, according to this page: https://roomforcreativity.wordpress.com/2012/08/06/installing-ubuntu-12-04-on-hp-mini-210-1000/ i NEED to run live first to use gparted to alter partitions. also, someone had suggested i get into f6 to click nomodeset, which i did, but still goes to black screen. [13:18] <MonkeyDust> !touch | bunty start here [13:19] <iamconstantlybor> I'm looking for a laptop with long battery life, upper limit of my budget is $800. I might spend a little on an SSD. [13:19] <iamconstantlybor> a [13:19] <iamconstantlybor> Any suggestions? [13:19] <mikubuntu> if i ran dban (dereks boot and nuke) over the xp running on hp mini 1000, would that also delete all the partitions existing on the disk? [13:19] <bekks> iamconstantlybor: Thats a good question for ##hardware [13:20] <iamconstantlybor> bekks: Alright, I'll take it there. [13:20] <MonkeyDust> mikubuntu sounds like a ##windows questions to me [13:21] <mikubuntu> MonkeyDust: i'm just trying to figure out how to get ##windows OFF this little netbook so i can load lub 1404 [13:21] <andersonid> hi guys.. quick doubt... why I cant alternate between users without logoff? [13:23] <bunty_> how to switch from ubuntu touch to ubuntu 13.04 on nexus tablet? please help. [13:23] <MonkeyDust> mikubuntu use a live usb or disk, run gparted, delete partitions [13:23] <mikubuntu> MonkeyDust: damn hp mini, it wants to load lubuntu live 1404, but screen blacks out just after splash screen with 'try w/o install' option -- which, according to this page: https://roomforcreativity.wordpress.com/2012/08/06/installing-ubuntu-12-04-on-hp-mini-210-1000/ i NEED to run live first to use gparted to alter partitions. also, someone had suggested i get into f6 to click nomodeset, which i did, but still goes to black scre [13:23] <sillyslux> su - change user ID or become superuser [13:24] <mikubuntu> MonkeyDust: so, my prob is i can't get live usb to fully boot, blacks out after first splash screen [13:26] <bunty_> how to switch from ubuntu touch to ubuntu 13.04 on nexus tablet? please help [13:27] <bekks> bunty_: 13.04 isnt supported anymore. [13:29] <andersonid> bekks, mikubuntu: Why I cant alternate from a user to another without logoff... the button is disabled [13:29] <andersonid> sorry my english is so bad [13:29] <Rob_C3> guys i just updated to ubuntu 15.04 from 14.04. went ok, but my mdadm raid wont mount on boot anymore. kernel complains about setting the root. root is set to /dev/md127 and thats correct. might this be another mduuid mixup? [13:30] <Rob_C3> fun fact: rescue mode does correctly detect the raid, can just: mount /dev/md127 /mnt and chroot into it without problems [13:30] <bunty_> bekks: i am facing lot's of problems with ubuntu touc like memory not available, no gcc compiler, can not run .sh file using ./<filename> [13:31] <bekks> !raring | bunty_ [13:32] <mikubuntu> andersonid: i'm sorry i don't know about that, i'm here looking for help also. your english is fine though. [13:32] <andersonid> thanks for your answer anyway [13:32] <andersonid> :) [13:32] <bunty_> ubottu: can you suggest me any other option than ubuntu touch on my nexus tablet [13:33] <t3kg33k> Greetings [13:34] <MonkeyDust> bunty_ type /j #ubuntu-touch [13:36] <t3kg33k> Is it possible for me to install Ubuntu on my laptop, install all my favorite applications and customize everything in my profile and then some how create an .ISO to load on any machine I want to use that install on? [13:37] <traekili> grub can boot from iso [13:38] <Pazooza> It's not going to load on any machine because of differences in machines. [13:38] <MonkeyDust> t3kg33k remastersys can do that, but i'm not sure if that still exists [13:38] <Pazooza> You need original install .iso. [13:38] <traekili> i was thinking t3kg33k would you use a virtual machine and just save the v disk image on a usb stick [13:39] <traekili> from the host on each machine [13:39] <bekks> t3kg33k: https://github.com/mutse/remastersys [13:40] <t3kg33k> Pazooza: Why? I understood that to be the beauty of Linux, that as long as it was built from a x86 architecture it doesn't matter. [13:40] <bekks> Pazooza: You dont. [13:40] <Pazooza> Your install doesn't have all possible drivers like the original. [13:41] <t3kg33k> Pazooza: Again, I don't think that matters [13:41] <bekks> Pazooza: They arent needed. [13:41] <Pazooza> Try it then. [13:41] <t3kg33k> I'll check out remastersys. [13:42] <MrJones_> hi [13:42] <MrJones_> just wanted to say, it's pretty annoying the desktop installer apparently can't do LVM [13:43] <MrJones_> (detecting existing ones I mean) [13:43] <MrJones_> you should probably put up a warning on the download page that for non-trivial installs it is useless.. [13:43] <Pazooza> Trying to install a backup on another machine won't work. [13:43] <MrJones_> is there a way I can boot into the alternate installer? [13:43] <MrJones_> with the regular live disk [13:44] <bekks> Pazooza: Why not? [13:44] <MrJones_> or do I need to download a completely new iso now [13:44] <bekks> pazooza, the packages provides kernel modules are the same. Thats where drivers come from. [13:45] <t3kg33k> I believe I'm with bekks on this one. [13:45] <traekili> me too, and tried it a few times [13:45] <Pazooza> Will Ford software run on a Chevy? [13:45] <t3kg33k> Worth testing though [13:45] <t3kg33k> Pazooza: Not the same [13:45] <bekks> Pazooza: Linux isnt Ford software. [13:45] <Pazooza> But Toshiba and Asus are not the same. [13:46] <traekili> the image will contain the kernel and modules for both [13:46] <bekks> pazooza: do you know how the linux kernel modules work? Or how the driver concept on linux differs from Windows? [13:47] <Pazooza> I know that during installation it compiles and selects what it needs and deletes unneeded software. [13:47] <bekks> pazooza: during installation, it doesnt copile at all. [13:47] <bekks> +*compile. Those times are gone for ages. [13:48] <Pazooza> Depends on what distribution. [13:48] <bekks> Ubuntu. [13:48] <Pazooza> Manjaro compiles on the fly. [13:48] <bekks> Ubuntu isnt Manjaro. [13:49] <traekili> although if t3kg33k wanted to slim it down, and recompile the kernel, copy xconfig and xconfig from old and uncheck things , then make an iso with that kernel , maybe then there'd me some issue [13:49] <traekili> but otherwise it should work lol [13:50] <MonkeyDust> Pazooza Manjaro is Arch based, Ubuntu isnt [13:50] <chemerou> hello to all [13:51] <t3kg33k> hello chemerou [13:51] <Pazooza> A .iso backup is not a .iso install, that's what I'm saying. [13:51] <traekili> hi chemerou [13:51] <chemerou> hello t3kg33k [13:51] <chemerou> good evening [13:52] <t3kg33k> That is exactly what I am trying to do, complete a custom .iso install for my personal machines. [13:52] <chemerou> hell traekili [13:53] <t3kg33k> Pazooza: I just finished installing Ubuntu on my laptop. I'm going to try this Remastersys to create a custom .iso and then attempt to install it on another machine. I'll let everyone know what happens later. [13:56] <MrJones_> does the installer do anything when I'm in the partition setup and trying to make it recognize the LVM by clicking the unknown area and choosing LVM? [13:56] <MrJones_> like, destroying whatever was there without a warning? [13:56] <chemerou> t3kg33k: i bought a laptop and it has windows 8.1 64bit. And I am new to this UEFI thing. i tried my 32bit lubuntu in my laptop and it works. but i have to choose legacy in bios. [13:56] <MrJones_> because that kind of would explain what I'm seeing now [13:57] <MrJones_> if this is the wrong place to ask installer questions, just send me elsewhere [13:58] <t3kg33k> chermerou: From what I understand, that is correct. [13:59] <chemerou> t3kg33k, how can I dualboot it along with lubuntu? [14:01] <chemerou> t3kg33k, do i need the 64bit lubuntu iso for UEFI compatibility? [14:01] <t3kg33k> chemerou: It's been a long time since I've completed a dual boot and i Have never had to work with uEFI, but I believe Windows needs to be installed first and then you should have the option to install Lubuntu alongside Windows [14:01] <fisheye_101> still not fixed this bug, thought i did but it is still here, no matter what i put in the power options the screensaver kicks in after 5 minutes [14:02] <t3kg33k> chermerou: I'm not exactly sure. However, if your machine has 4GB or more you should always use 65-bit [14:02] <fisheye_101> so my question is - where do i look to see what is causing the screensaver, it must be in a log file somewhere [14:02] <t3kg33k> *64-bit [14:02] <chemerou> t3kg33k, my laptop has 2GB of RAM but the pre-installed OS is Windows 8.1 64bit [14:02] <fisheye_101> i am guessing, so any ideas of where to look cos this is driving me up the wall? [14:02] <chemerou> i have crappy experience with it [14:03] <chemerou> t3kg33k, i'm also planning to downgrade in windows 7, [14:03] <MrJones_> what is the package for launchpad bug filing for the graphical desktop installer? [14:03] <t3kg33k> chermerou: 64-bit will still work with 2GB of RAM. it won't hurt you if you install the 64-bit of Lubuntu [14:04] <t3kg33k> chermerou: Unless you absolutely have to have Windows, I wouldn't even worry about installing it. [14:05] <chemerou> t3kg33k, i need Windows for work, and Lubuntu for internet :) [14:05] <MrJones_> guys someone in here must know how the installer package is named.. [14:05] <MrJones_> I am not on ubuntu I can't easily check [14:06] <t3kg33k> brb [14:06] <MrJones_> is base-installer the graphical one? [14:08] <Siilwyn> Hi people, simple question how to enter smart quotes on Ubuntu? I found this website http://smartquotesforsmartpeople.com/ but it doesn't seem to work... [14:10] <chips_> hello [14:12] <chips_> any one has a time [14:13] <t3kg33k> chips: time for what? [14:14] <chips_> to talk [14:14] <brainwash> !ask [14:14] <t3kg33k> chips: we're chatting. [14:14] <chips_> @t [14:15] <chips_> oh !!!! [14:15] <t3kg33k> chips: do you need help with something? If so, just ask a question for everyone to see. [14:15] <chips_> my mistake [14:15] <brainwash> otherwise join #ubuntu-offtopic [14:15] <chips_> yes [14:18] <MrJones_> ok so with the installer destroying my LVM without the slightest warning, I guess there's no good way to get it back? [14:18] <MrJones_> good job btw, worst installer on a distribution I have used in a while.. [14:20] <chips_> how i get an ubuntu os from the net for free [14:20] <MonkeyDust> MrJones_ did you make backups, prior to changing partitions? [14:20] <cfhowlett> chips_, download it from www.ubuntu.com [14:20] <EriC^^> MrJones_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2017598 [14:23] <chips_> there is some specifications and version for better performances ? [14:23] <chips_> is there? [14:23] <melbaubuntu> Heey guys, i setup my vsftpd server and i can login @terminal with it. But i dont know where to find the files to put in the html.index and stuffz [14:23] <cfhowlett> chips_, for older / slower hardware = lubuntu or xubuntu [14:24] <viral322> hi [14:24] <chips_> thanks @cf [14:24] <cfhowlett> chips_, happy2help! [14:24] <viral322> i want to setup ltsp on ubuntu 12.04 for connection to windows server help?? [14:24] <chips_> and for newer sys ! [14:25] <cfhowlett> !ltsp | viral322 [14:25] <melbaubuntu> Heey guys, i setup my vsftpd server and i can login @terminal with it. But i dont know where to find the files to put in the index.html and stuffz [14:25] <cfhowlett> !flavors | chips_ pick and choose. all are free. [14:25] <MonkeyDust> melbaubuntu better ask in #ubuntu-server, i guess [14:25] <bekks> melbaubuntu: A FTP server doesnt use HTML files. [14:25] <melbaubuntu> MonkeyDust, thanks :P i ment php xd [14:25] <viral322> how to setup ltsp server [14:26] <chips_> okay i will do it [14:26] <chips_> c u all later [14:26] <cfhowlett> !ltsp > viral322 [14:26] <daro> i cant install anything on my computer using apt-get manager [14:26] <daro> http://pastie.org/10226721 [14:26] <daro> how to fix it? [14:26] <daro> really urgent : < [14:27] <viral322> any other can help about ltsp ? [14:27] <al2o3-cr> daro: apt-get update should do it [14:27] <Siilwyn> Hi people, simple question: how to enter smart quotes on Ubuntu? I found this website http://smartquotesforsmartpeople.com/ but it doesn't seem to work... [14:27] <EriC^^> daro: raring is eol [14:27] <EriC^^> !raring | daro [14:27] <cfhowlett> daro, time to upgrade to a supported version [14:28] <MonkeyDust> daro upgrade to a suported release, then ask again [14:28] <al2o3-cr> oh, yeah didn't even notice ;p [14:28] <daro> cmon [14:28] <EriC^^> !eolupgrades | daro here's how you can upgrade, or just backup and fresh install [14:28] <viral322> ltsp thin client set up ? [14:28] <daro> http://pastie.org/10226723 [14:28] <bekks> daro: Support for raring ended 18 months ago, thats really just too long for a "cmon" :) [14:29] <daro> this what ahppends when i do apt-get update [14:29] <cfhowlett> viral322, ful instructions are given in the links [14:29] <MonkeyDust> daro 13.04 is dead, as in: not available anymore [14:29] <cfhowlett> daro, it's end of life = it's dead jim = upgrade it [14:30] <melbaubuntu> bekks, i meant i have setup a LAMP server and when i put in Localhost @browser it works and i can see apache2 is also running. I installed the vsftpd server for Filezilla [14:31] <bekks> melbaubuntu: you webserver files can be found under the /var/www/ directoy structure. [14:31] <melbaubuntu> oh LOL thanks i forgot!!! [14:31] <melbaubuntu> Thanks man! [14:32] <n1ghtmar3> hi [14:32] <n1ghtmar3> jkjkj [14:32] <n1ghtmar3> jkjljjlkjlkjlkjlkj [14:32] <MonkeyDust> n1ghtmar3 it works, we see you [14:33] <n1ghtmar3> thanks [14:34] <n1ghtmar3> part [14:37] <cfhowlett> !ltsp > viral322, [14:38] <mikubuntu> damn hp mini, it wants to load lubuntu live 1404, but screen blacks out just after splash screen with 'try w/o install' option -- which, according to this page: https://roomforcreativity.wordpress.com/2012/08/06/installing-ubuntu-12-04-on-hp-mini-210-1000/ i NEED to run live first to use gparted to alter partitions. also, someone had suggested i get into f6 to click nomodeset, which i did, but still goes to black screen. [14:39] <sgo11> hi, I setup a samba server. everything works fine except I can not modify a text file directly. why? I can create and delete files in the share directory at the samba client. but when I opened a text file and try to modify its content, I failed to save it. I checked the file permissions in the samba server. I don't see any problems. thanks. [14:39] <n1ghtmar3_> hi still on [14:39] <n1ghtmar3_> just testinf [14:39] <n1ghtmar3_> g [14:40] <cfhowlett> !test | n1ghtmar3_, [14:40] <n1ghtmar3_> yest got that [14:40] <n1ghtmar3_> typing mistake [14:41] <n1ghtmar3_> by the way , is this chat intensive ? [14:41] <bekks> !nomodeset | mikubuntu [14:42] <Aaruni> all righty. I just installed fglrx via Ubuntu-X-Swat ppa. trying to launch amdcccl, I get a message that I'm supposed to run aticonfig. on trying to run aticonfig, I get an error saying I don't have supported devices. I have an HD7670m. Help [14:48] <mikubuntu> bekks: i tried to boot both ways, with nomodeset ticked, and without -- both still gave me a black screen [14:50] <MonkeyDust> Aaruni try contacting the maintainer of the ppa [14:50] <bekks> mikubuntu: so you removed "quiet splash" and inserted "nomodeset" into the kernel command line? [14:50] <Aaruni> MonkeyDust: I read somewhere a canonical employee manages the PPA [14:51] <MonkeyDust> Aaruni yes, try contacting him or her [14:51] <Aaruni> ok [14:51] <MonkeyDust> Aaruni check the README file or so, if there is one [14:53] <Siilwyn> Hi people, simple question: how to enter smart quotes on Ubuntu? I found this website http://smartquotesforsmartpeople.com/ but it doesn't seem to work... [14:54] <MonkeyDust> Siilwyn you mean 'message of the day' in terminal? [14:55] <qwyos> Hello. Is it possible to launch an app (e.g. HexChat) with different window manager theme? (just this app, not change the entire look) [15:02] <mikubuntu> bekks: sorry, all of a sudden this box not alarming when i get a comment. well, no -- it didnt get into the grub editor, just pressed f6 and there's a tick box to check for nomodeset ... i don't think i can even get into the grub editor, because of the black screen [15:04] <bekks> mikubuntu: you dont need to get into the grub editor. instead of ticking/unticking things, just edit the command line there. [15:12] <Siilwyn> MonkeyDust, no just the " character but then the proper one. [15:13] <Siilwyn> If you look at the website http://smartquotesforsmartpeople.com/ you'll see what I mean. [15:13] <Siilwyn> Shift + Alt + > ' [15:13] <eduardo_> Can anyone help to connect to vpn net ? When i configure it the save button remains gray in windows is something like this.... http://imagebin.ca/v/24INV3jhtFR3 [15:13] <Siilwyn> does not work for me [15:14] <eduardo_> in windows works easy with server address, user and passwd.... ubuntu seems i need some kind of certificate... [15:17] <mikubuntu> bekks: sry -- don't know how :P [15:17] <squeegily> Has anybody ever gotten XScreensaver's fonts not to be messed up? [15:18] <bekks> mikubuntu: You said F6 opens a box where you can tick things. What do the other F-keys do? :) [15:21] <MonkeyDust> Siilwyn quick questions rarely have quick answers [15:22] <mikubuntu> bekks: i had to close it up, brain fried. i think it starts with 'aipc=off,' noaipc, nolapic, nomodeset, edd=something, and another [15:25] <zhangyanlin> hello,world!!! [15:26] <moviuro> Hi all! I need someone to launch sh and run this simple test: $ if [ "$(uname -s)" = "FreeBSD" ] || [ "$(uname -s)" = "Linux" ]; then echo "OK"; fi [15:27] <moviuro> and when I say "sh", I mean "sh", not your default shell [15:27] <moviuro> (I'm testing stuff and don't own an Ubuntu box, that's why) [15:29] <OerHeks> moviuro, take that to the freebsd channel ? [15:29] <moviuro> OerHeks: I asked for an ubuntu sh, because I'm testing for Ubuntu right now [15:29] <MonkeyDust> moviuro try #bash or #ubuntu-app-devel [15:30] <moviuro> oh god, you're so unhelpful [15:30] <t3kg33k> looks remastersys is no more [15:30] <OerHeks> moviuro, what is the use, me running that script on a ubuntu machine/ [15:30] <zhangyanlin> 有没有中文频道,英文不好看不懂!!!^_^ [15:30] <t3kg33k> anyone know of a good alternative to remastersys? I want to create a custom boot .iso. [15:30] <moviuro> OerHeks: I'm trying to build software for POSIX systems and the project i contribute to is using ubuntu for its automated builds [15:31] <moviuro> OerHeks: but you're so blind you won't even read what the test does [15:31] <oxymor00n> isn't /bin/sh dash on ubuntu? i guess he wants to find out if said snippet will work with that and a /bin/sh shebang [15:33] <traekili> i did the test and the result was OK but he left. [15:34] <oxymor00n> bit short tempered [15:35] <notfunatparties> Hi guys. I'm currently having issues with my WiFi. If I disable internal WiFi of my netbook wpa_supplicant starts using around 70% CPU.I'm using USB dongle so I don't have use for my internal WiFi. Currently only fix I found googling is to enable my internal WiFi and use both but that is such a waste of power. Any suggestions? Some info:http://pastebin.com/QAn4L0w8 [15:42] <eduardo_> fedora centos system has an option to disable interactive boot in /etc/sysconfig/init changing prompt=no.... where can i do in ubuntu ?? [15:44] <MonkeyDust> hi, Office is driving me nuts for the most basic actions... in a bulleted summing up, after I made an indented smaller sub-bullet, how do I go back to the main bullet size? [15:44] <MonkeyDust> in Powerpoint 2010 [15:45] <EriC^^> eduardo_: what do you mean by interactive boot? [15:45] <MonkeyDust> oops [15:45] <MonkeyDust> wrong channel [15:46] <eduardo_> eric im not sure because is something im studying right now... i suppose it reffers to the option to choose kernel or different OS at boot time.... thats a security hole [15:46] <EriC^^> eduardo_: i think you mean grub? [15:47] <EriC^^> nevermind, i think it's something else [15:49] <peter__> hello [15:50] <peter__> Hello [15:55] <eduardo_> EriC^^ is there a way in ubuntu ?? [15:56] <SCHAAP137> eduardo_, http://askubuntu.com/questions/148095/how-do-i-set-the-grub-timeout-and-the-grub-default-boot-entry [15:56] <Apteryx> Good morning. Could anyone using full disk encryption (including /boot) report how well it is working? [15:58] <eduardo_> anyone knows how to setup a vpn ? in windows i can but in ubuntu i need a certificate..... thanks [15:58] <Apteryx> I had been using full disk encryption myself with the exception of /boot, as was suggested (or required) to do in Ubuntu a couple of years ago. [16:00] <Apteryx> And I'm just wondering if it's supported now (encrypted /boot). I've moved the /boot partition on the root filesystem (which is encrypted), and did a grub-install. At first it complained that the cryptodisk module was missing, but after adding the line: GRUB_ENABLE_CRYPTODISK=y to my /etc/default/grub is seems the grub-install worked. [16:01] <Apteryx> I'm just a bit frightened at the idea the computer will get stuck at boot time, so I'd like to have your experience on this before rebooting :) (PC is remote...) [16:03] <sceener> I just installed a second monitor but its just dublicated how do i remove that? [16:04] <scatterp> !bg [16:04] <OerHeks> Apteryx, not sure WHY you did those steps, backup your data [16:04] <EriC^^> Apteryx: i've no experience with it, but i remember reading on the arch that if you have a separate encrypted /boot you can add that option to grub and use a key or something to have it decrypt and then ask for the passphrase to decrypt the root fs [16:05] <al8989> hello how do i use ndis wrapper to install a wireless network adaptor driver and what versions driver do i want , do i want the windows 7, the windows vistaor thewindows xp version of the driver? [16:05] <EriC^^> Apteryx: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GRUB#Boot_partition [16:05] <Apteryx> OerHeks: I got fed up with my 3X recommended size independent /boot partition would get filled by old kernels cruft. [16:05] <scatterp> !tr [16:05] <Apteryx> OerHeks: So I moved it to my root, which is many GBs. [16:06] <Apteryx> OerHeks: But had kind of forgotten about the encrypted boot potential issue. [16:06] <EriC^^> Apteryx: the arch wiki explains quite a bit, also make sure it applies to ubuntu too [16:07] <EriC^^> Apteryx: did you change /etc/fstab? [16:07] <EriC^^> and /etc/crypttab ? [16:07] <Apteryx> EriC^^: Think I had stumbled on that page, but I'll give it another read. And yes I did change /etc/fstab (just had to remove my custom /boot partition). [16:09] <Apteryx> EriC^^: As well as I did update-grub, update-initramfs -u and grub-install /dev/sda [16:10] <Apteryx> EriC^^: Guess I'll have to give it a go. And deal wathever happens ;) [16:11] <EriC^^> yeah [16:11] <visit0r3> Hello, just installed the nvidia proprietary drivers, bumblebee and primus and I only get a black screen when I log into my normal ubuntu 15.04 64bit session, but it works wheń I log into the oldschool gnome environment. I also get this message during boot after th grud choice screen : bbswitch : no _DSM call found. thank you for the help [16:15] <notfunatparties> Hi guys. I'm currently having issues with my WiFi. If I disable internal WiFi of my netbook wpa_supplicant starts using around 70% CPU.I'm using USB dongle so I don't have use for my internal WiFi. Currently only fix I found googling is to enable my internal WiFi and use both but that is such a waste of power. Any suggestions? Some info:http://pastebin.com/QAn4L0w8 [16:15] <Hurga> Hi. Does anyone know how update-manager uses polkit, and how to debug that? I switched from xubuntu 12.04 to 14.04, and now the Software Updater (update-manager) tells me I'm "not allowed to perform this action" when I open it. [16:19] <shunnyshawn> IGNORE -regexp -pattern (away|gone|back|playing|returned|joined|quit|left) * ACTIONS [16:20] <kacper> need help [16:20] <kacper> with ubuntu studio [16:20] <kacper> i've got ubuntu now in my computer but i want dualboot with windows7 [16:21] <kacper> what i have to do? [16:22] <EriC^^> kacper: install windows, then use a live ubuntu usb to reinstall grub [16:23] <EriC^^> kacper: make some unallocated free space first using gparted to install windows to it [16:23] <kacper> its only one way to make this dualboot [16:23] <kacper> sorry for bad english xD [16:24] <chema> hi, can anybody tell me how unistall completely python from ubuntu? i write apt-get remove python, but when it finishes i write python and it says python 2.7.3.. [16:25] <manacit> chema: I dont think you can fully uninstall it, and you definitely shouldn't [16:25] <manacit> there are system services that require python [16:25] <chema> i need to install python 2.7.10 [16:25] <chema> so i tried to unistall 2.7.3 firsst [16:26] <EriC^^> kacper: you can install windows in a virtualbox i guess [16:26] <kacper> okay [16:26] <kacper> thank you [16:26] <kacper> so [16:26] <kacper> i will try install windows and format all files [16:27] <kacper> later i'll instal ubuntu [16:30] <al8989> hello how do i use ndis wrapper to install a wireless network adaptor driver and what version of driver do i want , do i want the windows 7, the windows vista or the windows xp version of the driver? [16:37] <kacper> i back [16:37] <kacper> i cant install windows now [16:38] <kacper> i saw a comunicate [16:38] <kacper> with drivers or something with that [16:38] <kacper> i dont know what i have to do now xD [16:39] <OerHeks> kacper, likely we don't know about installing windows [16:39] <ObrienDave> are you trying to dual boot? [16:39] <kacper> yes i am [16:40] <ObrienDave> install Windows first. UEFI machine? [16:40] <kacper> yes but now i cant install windows beacuse its seems like windows is in hard drive disk [16:41] <kacper> but he has'nt bootloader or something it [16:42] <kacper> someone teel me about boot repair but i do'nt know whats is it [16:42] <ObrienDave> you should still have the recovery partitions. that will overwrite to new condition [16:43] <ObrienDave> boot repair is a linux program that fixes most boot issues [16:43] <EriC^^> kacper: did you install windows? [16:44] <kacper> yes i installed windows [16:44] <kacper> but ubuntu is [16:44] <EriC^^> kacper: or are you sure uefi is enabled? is it windows 8? [16:44] <kacper> it is windows 7 [16:44] <kacper> yes uefi is enabled [16:44] <EriC^^> ok, /join ##windows [16:44] <kacper> k [16:44] <ObrienDave> Win7 does not do UEFI afaik [16:46] <MrJones> hi [16:46] <MrJones> I literally can't get ubuntu to install: http://i.imgur.com/QPTZjZJ.png [16:47] <MrJones> as you can see, it just fails to realize it needs to format sda5_crypt too [16:47] <MrJones> unsurprisingly, it fails immediately after trying to mount sda5_crypt [16:47] <MrJones> what am I supposed to do to make it work? [16:48] <scatterp> i have a laptop with a usb drive 8gb (no internal drive) and i am trying to install ubuntu and then run the terminator14 script to make it boot from ram (so its fast) how ever every time i try it fails running out of space i have bigger drives i can use to get it working (temporarily) but it does not seem to fit on the usb drive since this is ubuntu twice essentially i just need one toram copy any advice? [16:49] <BluesKaj> MrJones, are you encrypting before you install? that's usually done afterwards afaik [16:49] <ObrienDave> MrJones, you might have to decrypt the partitions first [16:49] <MrJones> BluesKaj: encrypting / after the install in the running system? how is that supposed to work? [16:49] <MrJones> ObrienDave: I just created them [16:50] <BluesKaj> MrJones, doesn't the installer ask whether you want the partition encrypted, if that's what you want? [16:51] <MrJones> it even asked me for the password. [16:51] <MrJones> which it let me happily enter [16:51] <lucas> hey all [16:51] <MrJones> for both sda5_crypt and sda6_crypt [16:51] <MrJones> and both sda5 and sda6 are set up the same way, and as you can see for BOTH the format checkbox is checked [16:52] <MrJones> still it fails to format sda5 as you can see from the screenshot [16:52] <MrJones> because ??? [16:52] <lucas> just a question, i cant turn off my laptop when i try to do it it reboots... tried acpi off force noirq etc but it doesnt poweroff so installed laptop mode tools [16:52] <BluesKaj> what type of partitions are sda5 and 6. / and /home? [16:52] <ObrienDave> MrJones, you can't encrypt / afaik [16:53] <MrJones> ObrienDave: really? any other distribution I have seen can do it.. [16:53] <MrJones> BluesKaj: sda5/6 are crypt containers [16:53] <MrJones> and / and /home are ext4 [16:54] <ObrienDave> i have been known to be wrong. (does not use crypt) [16:54] <eduardo_> can anyone help me to connect to vpn net? [16:55] <MrJones> ObrienDave: it's certainly possible in general, the question is just if the sadly kinda stupid graphical installer can do it.. [16:55] <BluesKaj> MrJones, ok , that's beyond my scope since I'm like ObrienDave, I don't encrypt [16:56] <MrJones> the installer is horrible for other reasons, e.g. instant-creates all crypt containers without even warning (although all other operations will give you a useful last warning before they go instant to disk - but not this one), and apparently it's impossible to delete crypt containers/mappers again if you want to rearrange things [16:56] <MrJones> so I rebooted like 999 times to make it forget about them again and retry [16:56] <ObrienDave> MrJones, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FullDiskEncryptionHowto [16:56] <lucas> !poweroff [16:56] <ObrienDave> apparently this method uses knoppix to encrypt / [16:57] <MrJones> ObrienDave: that doesn't seem relevant nowadays [16:57] <MrJones> I'm quite sure the alternate text installer can do it without that much hassle [16:57] <MrJones> sadly I trusted the graphical one to be up to date... but I guess I'll have to redownload ubuntu with the alternate image [16:58] <MrJones> are there any plans to bring the graphical install to modern ages? compared to red hat's anaconda it's kind of a bad joke [17:01] <angate> penis [17:02] <nomic> ot. [17:04] <msa1> anybody here ?? [17:04] <ObrienDave> no [17:04] <msa1> )) [17:04] <msa1> how to add "WifiSlax" tools in ubuntu ?? [17:05] <msa1> do you know ?? [17:05] <ObrienDave> sec [17:05] <brainwash> MrJones: what is missing? [17:06] <MrJones> brainwash: the logic to make this work properly apparently: http://i.imgur.com/QPTZjZJ.png [17:06] <MrJones> also if it ever adds a dm crypt mapper, you can't get rid of it ever again unless you reboot and make it forget [17:06] <kacper> now i want to delete everything from HDD with windows and ubuntu [17:06] <ObrienDave> msa1, you would have to find the equivalent packages for ubuntu [17:06] <kacper> how to make that from ubuntu level [17:06] <MrJones> so if you dare to make a mistake with your crypt setup, you have to reboot and kill the whole install to correct it [17:07] <MrJones> brainwash: (in the screenshot, you can clearly see sda5_crypt is marked for formatting with ext4. still, the popup fails to recognize that - and the install fails a step later trying to mount unformatted sda5_crypt) [17:07] <ioria> MrJones, my only problems with encryption were related to swap. sudo swapoff -a resolved [17:07] <lucas> can some one help me? i cant turn off my laptop, it reboots instead [17:07] <MrJones> it just doesn't seem to work properly as soon as I try to have more than one formatted encrypted device [17:08] <MrJones> ioria: as you can see I don't have a swap partition. I have regular partitions, and the installer is set to format them, then just doesn't format one and acts surprised when it finds only junk. [17:08] <ObrienDave> lucas, hold power button for 5 to 10 seconds. that will kill it [17:09] <lucas> ObrienDave: yeah but in 14.04 i used to turn it off my adding acpi=force in kernel options but here it doesnt work at all [17:09] <brainwash> MrJones: you should report this on launchpad then. it's a bug if it does not work properly and can somehow damage your partition structure [17:09] <MrJones> brainwash: oh I did this before, because the installer doesn't have a proper commit system and writes some changes to disk INSTANTLY without the slightest warning. old data destroyed and gone, poof [17:10] <MrJones> for some other changes it wants to write them instantly and warns (resize), and only for some (formatting) it actually waits until the end and asks me then [17:10] <MrJones> of course this should all be done differently like in gparted and anaconda, which NEVER write any change EVER until the very end, then list everything again and make you confirm it [17:10] <MrJones> the installer really is kinda awful in comparison.. [17:10] <MrJones> alright I guess I'm gonna download the alternate one and have a try with that [17:10] <MrJones> doesn't seem like I'll still get anywhere with this [17:11] <anton> hallo? [17:11] <gofockurselph> hello [17:11] <brainwash> MrJones: all I can say is that you have to contact the devs in some way (launchpad or mailing list) [17:12] <MrJones> I already filed a bug for the more horrible instant data loss: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/base-installer/+bug/1462632 [17:12] <Guest57121> how can i enable hardware acceleration in ubuntu 15.04 [17:12] <ObrienDave> MrJones, ouch [17:14] <brainwash> MrJones: you should file it against ubiquity (Ubuntu live CD installer) [17:14] <MrJones> brainwash: I asked here for the package name but nobody bothered to respond, so I just picked something with installer [17:15] <brainwash> =S [17:16] <MrJones> brainwash: it just had swallowed all my data seconds before without a warning, so I was probably not in the most diplomatic mood.. [17:17] <brainwash> somewhat understandable [17:18] <MrJones> brainwash: and now I need to download the alternate installer but I'm already in the live system with the usb stick I would need to download it to, because it ate my old system =P [17:19] <leafybasil> Hey all, I'm having trouble working out if I'm on UEFI or not, is there a simple way to check? [17:21] <ObrienDave> boot into BIOS, if it has fastboot, it's UEFI [17:21] <EriC^^> leafybasil: ls -l /sys/firmware/efi && echo you have uefi [17:21] <ObrienDave> even easier LOL [17:22] <leafybasil> EriC^^, does the presence of that dir mean it's actually in use? [17:22] <EriC^^> yeah [17:22] <leafybasil> I'm using a macbook pro and it's been a long time since I set one up [17:23] <MrJones> is this a dual image which I can just dd onto an usb stick? http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/vivid/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/mini.iso [17:23] <bekks> Whats a "dual image"? [17:24] <MrJones> one that works if dd'ed to usb stick [17:24] <MrJones> (which doesn't apply for a regular iso as far as I'm aware) [17:24] <bekks> That applies to a "regular iso" as well. [17:24] <OerHeks> All our iso's are hybrid [17:25] <MrJones> ah ok [17:25] <MrJones> also other question: why does the website link me to this folder? http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/vivid/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/ instead of the iso [17:25] <MrJones> I'm supposed to just use that iso right? [17:25] <MrJones> or should I download everything in there and do something with it [17:25] <bekks> NEither nor. [17:25] <eduardo_> where is setroubleshoot in ubuntu 14.04 ? i cant find it or sealert ?? selinux... [17:26] <bekks> MrJones: If you wantthe mini.iso, download the mini.iso [17:26] <MrJones> well it doesn't say what it is so.... do I? [17:26] <MrJones> I want the network install on an usb stick [17:27] <OerHeks> !selinux [17:27] <OerHeks> !apparmor [17:28] <MrJones> bbl [17:29] <leafybasil> Does anyone know why installing nvidia-current (on macbookpro10,1) causes ubuntu to black screen? I'm having to reinstall the OS, so I'm stuck in some mad high resolution. [17:29] <bekks> MrJones: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/15.04/ [17:29] <nomic> a mac? [17:29] <bekks> leafybasil: You dont have to reinstall. Just boot to failsafe and remove the driver. [17:29] <leafybasil> nomic, yup [17:29] <leafybasil> bekks, how would I do that? Also the intention is to actually use the driver :( [17:30] <bekks> leafybasil: So which GPU do you have in particular? [17:30] <pidda> hi [17:31] <nomic> hi [17:31] <leafybasil> bekks, I have i915 and gt 650m [17:31] <bekks> leafybasil: In a Mac? [17:31] <leafybasil> bekks, cant tell which one is actually in use, but i cant change resolution without screen blackout [17:31] <leafybasil> bekks, yup? [17:34] <ObrienDave> i915 is intel [17:34] <leafybasil> yup, and the gt 650m is nvidia [17:36] <Kaneki> Is there anyone on here? [17:37] <Nightray> I need some help partitioning my system. Could anyone help me with that? [17:38] <Jack_The_Ripper> What are you trying to partition it for? [17:38] <BluesKaj> Kaneki, yes, if you have aquestion [17:38] <nomic> the installer will partition your disk automatically [17:38] <nomic> without you having to specify the sizes of volumes / volumes [17:39] <Nightray> Well... I have 90gb ssd and 1tb hdd. I wanna completely remove windows and install ubuntu 15.04 [17:39] <Kaneki> Then you don't even need to partition [17:39] <Jack_The_Ripper> The installer for ubuntu 15.04 will do that automaticly [17:40] <Nightray> Okay, lets stop here for a moment. [17:40] <Nightray> My plan is to remove ei [17:40] <Nightray> Windows* [17:40] <ObrienDave> the installer can do that [17:41] <Nightray> (I am typing from a tablet) [17:41] <MonkeyDust> Nightray use a live dvd or usb, open gparted, deleted windows partition [17:41] <MonkeyDust> delete* [17:41] <Nightray> And, to use photoshop, ms office and stuff for work from vm with windows inside ubuntu. Is this a good idea? [17:42] <Nightray> Or zho [17:42] <MonkeyDust> Nightray yes, I use a vm for windows xp, only for ms office [17:42] <Jack_The_Ripper> You can use libreoffice for a replacement to msoffice [17:42] <Nightray> Or should I keep windows? [17:42] <ObrienDave> it can be done. but will not run as fast as native windows [17:42] <MonkeyDust> Nightray you have space enough to have both [17:42] <xangua> Nightray: if you come with the mentalitty of "I want to run every single program i use on Windows on Linux" you are gonna have a bad time [17:43] <BluesKaj> dunno about photoshop on a VM , isn't that somewhat resource intensive? [17:43] <MonkeyDust> Nightray if you want to run windows programs only, then stick to windows [17:43] <blackfi_sh> I need to make a live CD persistent. if I make it persistent by following this guide, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD/Persistence will the softwares I install on it also be persistent. [17:43] <blackfi_sh> ? [17:44] <Nightray> I need MS office and photoshop. LibreOffice wont cut it. So, do I have to keep windows or can I use vm? [17:44] <ObrienDave> yes [17:44] <ObrienDave> blackfi_sh, yes [17:44] <xangua> blackfi_sh: why not a USB, it will last more [17:44] <MonkeyDust> Nightray but a vm is not as fast as a normal installation [17:44] <ObrienDave> blackfi_sh, oh, a CD, NO it will not [17:45] <BluesKaj> Nightray, think you're better off dual booting windows and ubuntu [17:45] <Nightray> Okay [17:45] <Jack_The_Ripper> I have a question regarding connecting my iphone to ubuntu mate 15.04. Every time i do, it doesnt get recongized, nothing happens, yet it charges. [17:45] <blackfi_sh> ah I meant a usb. I have ddeployed the software on a lot of laptops, but could not do it on this particular one. [17:46] <Kaneki> Hi does anyone know how to change names in Xchat? [17:46] <blackfi_sh> So I thought of this as a workaround [17:46] <MonkeyDust> Kaneki /nick blah [17:46] <ObrienDave> Jack_The_Ripper, charging has nothing to do with connecting [17:46] <Kaneki> thx :3 [17:46] <xangua> Jack_The_Ripper: either you keep libimobildevice up to date or keep your iphone in an old iOS release [17:46] <Jack_The_Ripper> Oh, so how do I get it to connect? [17:46] <ObrienDave> Kaneki, click your name at the bottom [17:47] <ObrienDave> Jack_The_Ripper, i know nothing about iphones [17:47] <Kaneki> o-o it doesnt work? [17:48] <Kaneki> i can enter something new but it doesnt change [17:48] <Jack_The_Ripper> Well then. [17:48] <ObrienDave> Kaneki, start the line /nick <new_nick> [17:49] <Jack_The_Ripper> How do i install libimobildevice? [17:49] <MonkeyDust> find libimobildevice [17:49] <MonkeyDust> !find libimobildevice [17:50] <ObrienDave> Jack_The_Ripper, you might have to get that through a PPA [17:50] <xangua> !info libimoviledevice4 [17:50] <xangua> !info libimobiledevice4 [17:50] <EriC^^> Jack_The_Ripper: are you trying to get iphone to work? [17:51] <ObrienDave> !find libimobiledevice [17:51] <EriC^^> Jack_The_Ripper: what are you trying to do? [17:51] <Jack_The_Ripper> Yes, I am trying to get an iphone to be connected [17:52] <ObrienDave> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone [17:53] <Jack_The_Ripper> That only goes up to 14.04. Also im running ubuntu mate if it makes a difference. [17:53] <Tuxjay> is a upgrade from 14.4 LTS to 15.4 good? [17:53] <ObrienDave> it should not [17:53] <leafybasil> Does anyone have a decent up to date guide for running ubuntu on a macbook pro, the wiki seems to be in tatters [17:54] <xangua> Tuxjay: you can not directly upgrade from ubuntu 14.04 to 15.04 if that is what you refer to [17:54] <ObrienDave> Jack_The_Ripper, it should not make any difference [17:54] <ObrienDave> Tuxjay, depends on if you want to upgrade OS every 6 months or not [17:54] <Jack_The_Ripper> Hmm, it appears i have libimobildevice installed, checked via synapic. Ok..thats good [17:55] <xangua> Jack_The_Ripper: have you made an iOS update recently ¿ [17:55] <ObrienDave> you might need to change a setting on the iphone [17:55] <Jack_The_Ripper> It connects to oen of my iphones fine, but not the other. Same ios version. [17:56] <xangua> you know, it's a never ending story, ubuntu has supported "mounting" iOS devices since 2010 but with every iOS update the support breaks [17:56] <Tuxjay> ok thank you ObrienDave [17:58] <ObrienDave> LTS is good for 3 years [17:58] <DJones> ObrienDave: 5 years [17:58] <ObrienDave> right, i run Xubuntu. 3 years for me [17:59] <TheC4mel> Anyone here have experience with troubleshooting Ubuntu Studio? [17:59] <ObrienDave> depends on the trouble, just ask [18:01] <TheC4mel> When I start up QJackCTL, (basically the GUI control panel for Jack Audio, if I'm not mistaken), the log gives me a few errors as to why it's not working correctly. Specifically, it tells me that jackdbus service is not available, and it wasn't able to load the alsa module. [18:02] <ObrienDave> i have never been able to keep anything JackAudio working [18:02] <EriC^^> Jack_The_Ripper: did you get it to work? [18:03] <Jack_The_Ripper> I got one of the iphones to connect, trying the other one now *fingers crossed* [18:03] <TheC4mel> Damn. Well, I'm just a music producer, not a mad Linux scientist. Lmao. [18:03] <EriC^^> Jack_The_Ripper: not sure if this would help, but maybe try idevicepair pair [18:04] <EriC^^> if it doesn't work ( you can have to install sudo apt-get install libimobiledevice-utils first btw ) [18:04] <ObrienDave> TheC4mel, well ardour (?) supports alsa now. no jack required [18:04] <Jack_The_Ripper> Ok, i shall try that. [18:05] <TheC4mel> ObrienDave: I use ardour! Well, I am going to use ardour, if I can ever get the damn plugins to work. [18:05] <ObrienDave> TheC4mel, as well as hydrogen [18:05] <TheC4mel> I don't even think my alsa module is loading correctly, though. [18:07] <Jack_The_Ripper> Ok, so now both my iphone are connected. Thanks [18:07] <ObrienDave> TheC4mel, run alsamixer in terminal [18:09] <killjoy> ello, ello [18:10] <blackfi_sh> Please help me, this is the first time I am using cmake. I am trying to compile a OpenCV program using cmake. But I am getting a linker error. This is the error: http://pastebin.com/F2diPCYg I have a project directory with this cmakelists.txt: http://pastebin.com/f0ayj5U5 All the openCV related code is stored in a subdir "OpenCV" with this cmakelists: http://pastebin.com/dSQhYw4k [18:10] <ObrienDave> TheC4mel, this might help, http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2015/05/how-to-install-ardour-4-in-ubuntu-14-04/ [18:12] <Guest45293> NICK killjoy [18:12] <Guest45293> wtf? I can't change nick even with the / modifier [18:12] <k1l_> Guest45293: see the server window what the error is [18:13] <Guest45293> good idea [18:13] <BluesKaj> Guest45293, nick /newnick [18:13] <k1l_> BluesKaj: no :) /nick newnick [18:13] <ObrienDave> Guest45293, /nick newnick [18:13] <Guest45293> weird.... not working... it's ok though [18:14] <Jack_The_Ripper> Guest45293, click on your name beside the text box and change it from there [18:15] <TheC4mel> Oops, sorry ObrienDave, I was AFK for a while [18:16] <bootstrappm> I'm having trouble understanding the relationship between Desktop Environments and Window Managers and what's shared and what isn't. Gnome2 used Metacity that used GTK, Gnome3 uses Mutter which replaces GTK with Clutter. Does that mean Gnome3 doesn't come with the GTK libraries? [18:17] <Kill_Joy> must have been a weird xchat bug ... working now [18:17] <k1l_> Kill_Joy: or the name is blocked from freenode [18:17] <ObrienDave> TheC4mel, no problem [18:18] <Kill_Joy> oh, didn't know.... I guess it's more popular than I thought [18:18] <TheC4mel> ObrienDave: I'm attempting to install all of the missing bits and pieces for alsa driver [18:19] <just_me> c4, have you tried synaptic? [18:19] <BluesKaj> TheC4mel, alsa-base and al;sa-utils ? [18:19] <ObrienDave> TheC4mel, did alsamixer work? [18:20] <bunty_> Hi, I have a nexus tabet and I have installed ubuntu on it. please find image on following link. http://ibin.co/24KBu0mDKLV9 this i got on executing command: df -h, why only 2GB available on root? [18:20] <bunty_> it is 16 GB nexus 7 2013 wifi [18:20] <TheC4mel> Oh yeah, I forgot [18:21] <TheC4mel> ObrienDave: Yes, alsamixer works. [18:21] <ObrienDave> then alsa works afaik [18:21] <TheC4mel> Something must not be right though. :/ QJackCT [18:22] <TheC4mel> QJackCTL*** [18:22] <TheC4mel> Is giving me some errors [18:22] <BluesKaj> TheC4mel, what bit's and pieces of alsa are you referring to ? [18:22] <TheC4mel> Want to see the log? [18:22] <TheC4mel> BluesKaj: To be honest mate, I don't really know. This is a bit of a learning curve for me. [18:23] <TheC4mel> Here's the log from QJackCTL: http://pastebin.com/JBjjwZr5 [18:24] <BluesKaj> TheC4mel, ok what are you trying to accomplish with QJackCTL ? [18:24] <TheC4mel> BluesKaj: Well, I was just trying to test to see if some of my plugins were working correctly. [18:25] <TheC4mel> I can take some screenshots of what happens when I run it. [18:25] <just_me> do you have all the dependencies installed? [18:25] <BluesKaj> TheC4mel, which plugins? [18:26] <just_me> the error log should tell you what missing dependencies you need [18:26] <TheC4mel> BluesKaj: I have calf installed, afaik (I'm using Ardour) [18:27] <ObrienDave> i knew there was some die-hard jack fans out there ;P [18:27] <TheC4mel> I don't even know how to access my DAW's plugins, IMHO [18:31] <flexus> you need a host for plugins (LV2 etc) [18:37] <t3kg33k> For those that may have been around earlier in the discussion about making a custom boot .iso from a built machine: I was able to successfully complete this successfully using Systemback. [18:38] <Original_KillJoy> Systemback? never heard of it [18:38] <MonkeyDust> t3kg33k great, do you have a link or other reference? [18:38] <chetan> Hi, I have a nexus tabet and I have installed ubuntu on it. please find image on following link. http://ibin.co/24KBu0mDKLV9 this i got on executing command: df -h, why only 2GB available on root? it is 16 GB nexus 7 2013 wifi [18:38] <t3kg33k> http://sourceforge.net/projects/systemback/ [18:39] <Original_KillJoy> Looks like a handy program [18:39] <t3kg33k> I was able to take a snapshot of my laptop running Ubuntu Mate 15.04 and converted the image to .iso. I then tested it on a virtual machine in Virtualbox and it worked like a charm [18:39] <t3kg33k> Here's a good article on it: http://www.techrepublic.com/article/create-a-live-system-iso-for-your-ubuntu-based-linux-machines-using-systemback/ [18:39] <Original_KillJoy> so, you load the iso and all your personal files are there aswell? [18:40] <MonkeyDust> t3kg33k +1, glad you made it [18:40] <traekili> i remember from earlier, good t3kg33k [18:40] <traekili> that's good i mean, [18:41] <t3kg33k> My next attempt will be on physical machine, once I can find one around the house. [18:41] <Original_KillJoy> that's a good idea for an old (unused) laptop [18:42] <Bashing-om> chetan: Think you are looking at the liveDVD's '/' . Boot the install and run 'df -h' from there . [19:00] * histo yuck sourceforge  hello. i am running lubuntu on one of my laptops and i can't figure out how to connect it to my wifi after a (somewhat) recent update [19:02] <tsoutseki> could someone instruct me? thanks [19:02] <t3kg33k> So, I'm still testing the Systemback and there seems to be something I was short sighted on. So, the .iso boots into a Live boot environment. You can run the Systemback application again and it walks through an install wizard but it's not very informative, especially in the partitioning phase. [19:02] <histo> !ot | t3kg33k [19:03] <MonkeyDust> t3kg33k inform the maintainer(s) about this shortcoming [19:03] <t3kg33k> Still trying to figure out how to install the Ubuntu from the custom .iso [19:03] <bekks> t3kg33k: You could use a PXE server and perform a kickstart installation, which customizes the target to your needs. [19:04] <t3kg33k> MonkeyDust: Good idea [19:07] <cartman> yo [19:08] <cartman> allo [19:08] <cartman> hello [19:08] <t3kg33k> hi [19:08] <Bashing-om> cartman: Hello, you have an ubuntu support question ? [19:10] <bootstrappm> he left [19:11] <Bashing-om> bootstrappm: Yeah, ^^ must not have been too important an issue, huh ? [19:11] <bootstrappm> guess not ;) [19:16] <TheSavior2> Download the Website Worth Calculator Nulled attathment on the website followd by images: http://www.websiteadverts.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=16 you might think it's fake, well it's not, after all it's only one click isn't it? [19:17] <TheSavior2> Download the Website Worth Calculator Nulled attathment on the website followd by images: http://www.websiteadverts.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=16 you might think it's fake, well it's not, after all it's only one click isn't it? [19:17] <ObrienDave> no spamming [19:17] <d4rkm15t> hi [19:17] <d4rkm15t> someone there? [19:17] <ObrienDave> nope [19:17] <bekks> d4rkm15t: Look at "/names". [19:18] <d4rkm15t> too bad [19:18] <d4rkm15t> i have a question [19:18] <bekks> !ask | d4rkm15t [19:19] <d4rkm15t> well i wanted to run a .jar file and since it said it was like ubuntu i should just mark the execute box but there isnt an execute box ? [19:19] <bekks> d4rkm15t: Run: java -jar yourfile.jar [19:19] <bekks> A .jar file inst executable by itself. [19:19] <d4rkm15t> thanks [19:21] <d4rkm15t> wouldnt work [19:21] <traekili> chmod +x on it [19:21] <histo> traekili: that won't work [19:21] <traekili> that was fast [19:21] <t3kg33k> Okay, update on Systemback. I had to stumble through but was able to complete an install of my custom Ubuntu Mate 15.04 from the .iso Systemback created and loaded it on a VM. [19:22] <histo> d4rkm15t: you could write a short script #!/bin/bash; java -jar nameoffile.jar and chmod +x the script and then you just run the script when you want to start it [19:22] <d4rkm15t> okay thanks ill try [19:22] <bekks> traekili: That will not make a .jar file magically executable. A .jar file is an compressed archive, you cannot execute it. [19:22] <t3kg33k> Next my test of custom Ubuntu Mate 15.04 will be on a physical machine. [19:22] <bekks> d4rkm15t: It is pointless to set +x on a .jar file. [19:23] <histo> t3kg33k: ot [19:23] <traekili> bekks i know, i was checking this, http://askubuntu.com/questions/270172/how-can-i-make-a-jar-file-executable i use java myself [19:24] <traekili> i was assuming it was unset for some weird reason. [19:25] <bekks> traekili: It isnt necessary to set it, so seeing it not being set is the default (and doesnt need to be changed) ;) [19:26] <traekili> lets be civil though, i know what you meant the first time :) [19:27] <tsoutseki> what's the command to completely update an ubuntu computer [19:28] <zykotick9> tsoutseki: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" [19:28] <tsoutseki> zykotick9, thank you [19:29] <Rob_C> I got a problem with my mdadm raid after i upgraded to 15.04 and could use some help, can't boot the system... [19:36] <Guest70516> hi [19:37] <k1l_> !rootirc | Guest70516 [19:42] <tsoutseki> so, i used the command 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' and i accidentally closed the terminal [19:42] <tsoutseki> while it was updating [19:42] <tsoutseki> what to do? [19:42] <Sebastien> tsoutseki, try again, but start SCREEN first? [19:43] <k1l_> tsoutseki: run it again, but dont close the terminal this time [19:44] <tsoutseki> k1l_, i tried but it returned back something along the lines of 'dpkg' being used. i rebooted, idk if it was a good idea but anyway [19:44] <k1l_> tsoutseki: pleast put the messages into a pastebin and show the url here. details matter a lot [19:45] <tsoutseki> k1l_, don't worry, it booted normally :) [19:45] <k1l_> tsoutseki: booting doesnt tell anything about the state of the package system. [19:45] <zykotick9> !aptlock | tsoutseki _if_ this is your issue [19:45] <Guest38946> a [19:45] <k1l_> and blindly rebooting is not a good solution [19:45] <KillerMachine> a [19:45] <EriC^^> tsoutseki: type sudo dpkg-configure -a && sudo apt-get -f install [19:46] <EriC^^> * sudo dpkg --configure -a [19:46] <EriC^^> tsoutseki: run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade first [19:46] <tsoutseki> everything is ok, for now. i just re-used the command after rebooting and it is downloading from like it did before. thank you all! [19:47] <tsoutseki> EriC^^, right [19:54] <Guest20534> Fresh upgrade to 15.04 on Asus Q502L laptop. Touchpad still not working. I thought the latest Kernel fixed this? [19:57] <sparkling> hi all [19:58] <leonardo_> alguem pode me ajudar ?? :) [19:58] <bekks> !br | leonardo_ [20:00] <leonardo_> ok [20:00] <leonardo_> tanks [20:01] <nahtnam> Hey! I need some help. I have a full ubuntu laptop. I partitioned by drive, and installed windows 10. For some reason, windows 10 didnt have a bootloader so I used a ubuntu 14.04 live cd to run boot-repair. Now when I reboot, GRUB shows up but windows isnt in the options. Here is the pastebin boot-repair gave me. http://paste.ubuntu.com/11609643/ What can i [20:01] <nahtnam> do to get windows to show up in grub? [20:05] <cyberalex4life> nahtnam, did you try the advanced options in boot-repair? [20:06] <nahtnam> cyberalex4life: It says to ask online if you have no clue what you are doing. :P [20:06] <nahtnam> What should I change in the advanced options? [20:07] <cyberalex4life> nahtnam, I have never used windows together with any windows, but I used boot-repair so that't the only advice I can give: advanced options [20:08] <cyberalex4life> nahtnam, I don't know even if you can do anything, but reading the options might give you some clue, if there is one. [20:08] <nahtnam> cyberalex4life: Kk. Anyone else know what do to? [20:08] <nahtnam> cyberalex4life: Any idea what MBR? [20:08] <nahtnam> is [20:09] <cyberalex4life> nahtnam, M(Main I think) Boot Loader [20:09] <ObrienDave> MBR is Master Boot Record [20:09] <cyberalex4life> that's good [20:10] <cyberalex4life> nahtnam, It's where windows and ubuntu usually put the info about booting (some part of the hdd I think) [20:11] <jazzy_> How do I tell what Touchpad I have on my ASUS laptop? It isn't working on 15.04 [20:11] <cyberalex4life> nahtnam, this is the default option, anyway, you could try with some boot repair options from windows 10 (if there are some) [20:13] <nahtnam> cyberalex4life: There is an option to restore MBR. Do you think I should enable that and try it? [20:13] <jazzy_> From what I read, the latest 3.19 kernel should support newer Touchpad... but it isn't working for me [20:13] <cyberalex4life> nahtnam, this can work the other way around, meaning you'll make windows work, but not linux (though I found info on the internet on repair grub for linux: you may even reinstall grub not having to reinstall linux) [20:15] <cyberalex4life> nahtnam, I'm no expert, you can try, either way linux can be rapaired easyly, but if it asks for some backup (just speculating) it won't be useful [20:17] <cyberalex4life> I was never interested in running 2 or more primary OS's, I always used a virtual machine [20:17] <Bashing-om> nahtnam: I see "The NTFS partition is in an unsafe state. Please resume and shutdown [20:17] <Bashing-om> Windows fully . Do you have access to a windows recovry CD ? [20:18] <nahtnam> Bashing-om: Yeah, I had to force shut down, because if I used the shut down button, I would just show "Continuing with system resume" when I turned it on [20:18] <cyberalex4life> jazzy_, what kind of touchpad do you have? [20:19] <cyberalex4life> jazzy_, or what laptop model? [20:21] <tsoutseki> anyone knows any good network (wifi) managing software? i mean that it will be letting me choose which wifi i want to connect to etc. [20:22] <EriC^^> tsoutseki: network-manager and nm-applet are pretty good, they're default in ubuntu [20:23] <jazzy_> cyberalex4life, ASUS q502L [20:23] <jazzy_> cyberalex4life, I just tried the Focaltech-dkms install...going to restart and see if that helps [20:23] <cyberalex4life> tsoutseki, that's what I was wondering, ubuntu has a GUI in System Settings, but actually you can also try plasma-nm, from kde. This will let you add create hotspots for android [20:24] <tsoutseki> cyberalex4life, nice :) thanks [20:25] <cyberalex4life> tsoutseki, you have to type in terminal kde-nm-connection-editor after installing it, but there is also a launcher in /usr/share/applications/kde4 , but it is set not to be shown [20:26] <jazzy_> doh! cyberalex4life NOPE that didn't work :( [20:27] <cyberalex4life> jazzy_, I have an Asus K55VD, touchpad seem similar, I don't have any problem with it on ubuntu 14.04.1 (kernel 3.13) [20:28] <jazzy_> I have a ASUS 500 ultrabook 14.04 and it works fine, but this is the newer ASUS my girlfriend has [20:28] <jazzy_> cyberalex4life, I read kernal 3.19 should fix it, but doesn't seem to [20:28] <B0g4r7> I wonder if the "sometimes doesn't wake from sleep" problem ever got fixed for my Asus 1215B... [20:29] <cyberalex4life> jazzy_, well maybe would fix it, though does not mean that ubuntu would fix it, sorry for disturbing others [20:29] <B0g4r7> I ended up just buying a 1215N and moving on. [20:29] <jazzy_> well gee [20:30] <jazzy_> oh well, guess we'll keep using a mouse for now [20:30] <jazzy_> thanks cyberalex4life [20:31] <cyberalex4life> jazzy_, try with fedora, or manjaro (I think there are some new realeses: manjaro is rolling release -> also opensuse Tumbleweed) [20:31] <jazzy_> hmmm, I think it did work with a live boot, but i'll try again with another distro [20:31] <cyberalex4life> jazzy_, at least you might get a clue of what is fixed and what not [20:31] <ObrienDave> jazzy_, is the touchpad enabled in windows? [20:31] <jazzy_> yeah works find in windows ObrienDave [20:31] <ObrienDave> k [20:32] <jazzy_> fine [20:32] <cyberalex4life> jazzy_, what ubuntu version worked in live mode? [20:33] <jazzy_> i'll have to check again to make sure, i was pretty sure it worked when we did the install cyberalex4life ...that would have been 14.04 [20:34] <cyberalex4life> jazzy_, first check you have xserver-xorg-input-synaptics installed [20:34] <jazzy_> how do i know this is a synaptic touchpad cyberalex4life ? [20:35] <cyberalex4life> jazzy_, synaptics is the driver for linux, it's just a name I guess [20:35] <ObrienDave> it won't hurt to try that. you can uninstall it if need be [20:35] <jazzy_> how should i check if it is install? [20:35] <cyberalex4life> jazzy_, sudo apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg-input-synaptics [20:36] <cyberalex4life> jazzy_, do that, then a reboot [20:36] <jazzy_> ok rebooting now [20:36] <jazzy_> it installed [20:36] <cyberalex4life> jazzy_, stop.. [20:36] <jazzy_> oh? [20:36] <jazzy_> i installed it as you showed cyberalex4life [20:37] <cyberalex4life> jazzy_, no, you should try with the live 14.04 to be sure your touchpad works [20:37] <jazzy_> ok [20:37] <jazzy_> it does work in windows [20:37] <jazzy_> but i'll try a live boot as well [20:37] <cyberalex4life> jazzy_, if it works on live, there may be some workarounds that will fix it [20:39] <cyberalex4life> jazzy_, if not, you may have to wait for kernel 20, maybe, but Asus are usually build for windows, that's what I read, It took a year or so to get my brightness keys working, since I bought it [20:40] <cyberalex4life> jazzy_, ok reboot and if it does not work, try the live, then if the live works, come back here [20:58] <Guest80024> well dang! That didn't work, nor could I get it to live boot into anything [20:58] <Guest80024> ...this is jazzy [20:59] <Guest80024> with or without secure boot turned on..... that was with xubuntu and eOS... I'll have to download fedora and try to boot off it [20:59] <TheC4mel> Is there a DAW that has Plug-ins that completely work, without having to set up jackd or alsa, (in conjunction with Pulse Audio)? [20:59] <cyberalex4life> Guest80024, did you install kernel 3.19 on ubuntu 14.04? [20:59] <TheC4mel> I'm sick and tired of getting no results with troubleshooting my audio issues with Ardour music software [21:00] <Guest80024> now cyberalex4life ...just did an upgraded to 14.10, then 15.04 [21:00] <Guest80024> TheC4mel, have you tried KXStudio chatroom #kxstudio and #opensourcemusicians they might have some good info on that [21:01] <cyberalex4life> Guest80024, well if 15.04 works, and you are ok with another distro, try something with kernel >= 3.19 [21:01] <MonkeyDust> TheC4mel there's also #ubuntustudio, for multimedia questions [21:01] <cyberalex4life> *doesn't work [21:04] <blib> What's a good laptop for ubuntu these days? - light - I was looking at dell xps 13 - any other recommendations from people who bought one recently? [21:04] <Guest80024> blib, have you looked at the system76 laptops? [21:05] <ahoneybun> blib, light and cheap? [21:05] <blib> Guest80024: looking now [21:05] <MonkeyDust> !hardware | blib read this too [21:05] <blib> they look bulky [21:06] <MonkeyDust> blib with the mini.iso, you can select the software you want to install [21:07] <Guest80024> blib, I use an older ASUS Ultrabook 500 series I think, that I like...working on my girlfriends newer ASUS right now that seems to have a different style touchpad that isn't working at the moment [21:07] <lucas23423> PLEASE!! i cannot turn my laptop off!!! halt init 0 shutdown poweroff they all reboot the laptop and dont shut it down!!! im crazy and dont know whats wrong!! [21:08] <blib> Guest80024: I'm currently using a mac book pro - except for the keyboard - love it. Wish apple would give an option for a linux keyboard ;) [21:08] <lucas23423> i also installed laptop-mode-tools and nothing happened! [21:09] <lucas23423> i dont want to run other os than ubuntu! [21:10] <lucas23423> where can i find help? [21:13] <Guest80024> nice [21:16] <MonkeyDust> lucas23423 sudo init 0 doesnt do it? [21:16] <lucas23423> MonkeyDust ive tried it, but it reboots the laptop... still the same ive trie everything you can find in the net [21:20] <lucas23423> ill try 1 more time, if INIT_HALT does not work ill go back to windows [21:20] <bunty> how to install gstreamer on ubuntu touch [21:20] <MonkeyDust> lucas23423 my laptop behaves differently in the GUI and in a TTY screen, maybe yours too... try ctrl-alt F1 and then sudo init 0... any difference? [21:21] <lucas23423> MonkeyDust, nope i tried that already [21:22] <k1l_> bunty: for ubuntu touch better ask in the channel #ubuntu-touch [21:22] <lucas23423> MonkeyDust, ive changed in /etc/default/halt the line HATL=poweroff to INIT_HALT=poweroff I also have acpi=force in kernel options in grub [21:25] <thugnasty00> Has anyone any experience getting Screenhero to work in ubuntu/wine? [21:28] <polishpoliceforc> anyone know how to get omegle's to work on ubuntu studio? i've found it's very buggy... [21:33] <Jeph_ch> hello guys [21:35] <Jeph_ch> I'm deperately trying to install ubuntu vivid on a proliant server [21:36] <Jeph_ch> when creating boot partition the system stops at 33% and nothing hapen [21:38] <Jeph_ch> can somebody please help me to find out what's goirng wrong? [21:43] <Jordan_U> Jeph_ch: At that point, can you get to a tty by pressing ctrl+alt+F1? [21:43] <OS-16749> hey can someone tell me if im cloaked? [21:43] <k1l_> OS-16749: you can /whois yourself [21:45] <Jeph_ch> thanks Jordan [21:45] <Jeph_ch> let's me staronce the installatin and test that [21:45] <OS-16749> doesnt seem to be working [21:46] <Jordan_U> Jeph_ch: If you haven't started yet, first verify the integrity of the install media. [21:46] <Jordan_U> OS-16749: Please join #freenode for help with using the network. [21:50] <Jeph_ch> I should precise that my installation is made on a logical drive of 1.8tb created via the bios raid utility of my server [21:50] <Jordan_U> Jeph_ch: That's definitely good to know. That sounds like FakeRAID, which you should avoid. [21:52] <Jeph_ch> My server is a dl380 g7 with a raid card with 512MB integrated to server [21:52] <Jordan_U> Jeph_ch: FakeRAID still uses your CPU and RAM for performing RAID, but is less efficient than simply using linux's mdraid and uses a proprietary on-disk format. Disable FakeRAID completely and simply use mdraid, unless you're planning to dual boot with Windows. [21:52] <Jeph_ch> I've built a raid 5.0 [21:52] <Jeph_ch> with 8 drive of 300GB each [21:53] <Jeph_ch> I'm at the same point 33% partition formatting and it's blocked [21:54] <Jeph_ch> the itegrity of the media fails [21:54] <Jeph_ch> tough I've dowloaded the the iso several times [21:54] <Jeph_ch> exactly 4 times [21:55] <Jordan_U> Jeph_ch: What are using to boot the installer from? [21:55] <Jeph_ch> CRtl alt F2 brig me to a terminal page with promt [21:55] <Jeph_ch> I'm using a usb key [21:56] <EriC^> Jeph_ch: are you installing ubuntu server? [21:56] <psusi> Jeph_ch, in the ubuntu installer, does it see only one drive, or all 8? [21:56] <Jordan_U> Jeph_ch: Then your USB key is probably silently corrupting data. [21:56] <Jeph_ch> only one drive of 1.8tb [21:56] <psusi> Jeph_ch, in other words, are you installing to /dev/sda, or /dev/mapper/something or /dev/mdxx? [21:56] <Jeph_ch> Humm [21:56] <EriC^> Jeph_ch: if you're using a gui installer there's the arrow you can click on and it'll show you more info [21:57] <Jeph_ch> so I should better try with another usb key [21:57] <leafybasil> Can anyone tell me how to turn off tap-clicking when using DWM, I went looking for Xorg.conf and it doesn't seem to be there, not sure how to do it :( [21:57] <EriC^> or try typing dmesg in a tty maybe [21:57] <Jordan_U> Jeph_ch: Yes, and run the media self-test before trying to install. [21:57] <psusi> if you see /dev/mapper/something or /dev/mdsomething instead of just /dev/sda, then it's fakeraid.. if you only see a 1.8 tb /dev/sda, then it's hardwrae raid [21:57] <Jeph_ch> great [21:57] <psusi> also are these brand new disks, or have they been used before? [21:58] <Jeph_ch> which arrow should I click for more info [21:58] <Jeph_ch> I'm not usin mouse but I can connect one [21:58] <psusi> server installer doesn't use a mouse [21:58] <Jeph_ch> but let's me first change the usb guys [21:58] <Jeph_ch> thanl you for the tips [21:59] <shiznix> does anyone know what sets the $UPSTART_SESSION env variable ? [22:00] <ikonia> sets it where ? [22:03] <brainwash> shiznix: you mean something other than upstart itself? [22:03] <shiznix> ikonia: in a desktop session [22:03] <ikonia> what do you mean in a desktop session ? [22:03] <ikonia> what exactly are you trying to do [22:04] <psusi> shiznix, I would imagine it is set by upstart [22:04] <leafybasil> I was told I could set my keyboard backlight by writing a value between 0 and 255 to /sys/class/leds/smc::keybd_backlight/brightness but even as root I'm told the file is readonly... Why can't I write a value? [22:05] <EriC^> leafybasil: what's the command you're typing? [22:05] <leafybasil> EriC^, I'm trying 'sudo vim' that file then save [22:05] <psusi> leafybasil, you're supposed to use echo > to write to it, vim won't do it [22:05] <leafybasil> psusi, will give that a go :( [22:06] <leafybasil> I tried 'cat' too [22:06] <psusi> sudo -s, then echo 255 > /sys/blah [22:06] <Jordan_U> leafybasil: echo 200 | sudo tee /sys/class/leds/smc::keybd_backlight/brightness [22:06] <psusi> or that ;) [22:06] <psusi> or sudo bash -c 'echo 200 > /sys/blah' [22:08] <leafybasil> psusi / Jordan_U thanks very much for that, out of curiosity why does 'sudo echo 200 > /blah' not work? I wanted to add some keybindings for inc/dec [22:08] <bekks> psusi: That wont work. Use echo 200 | tee /sys/blah instead. [22:08] <bekks> *sudo tee [22:08] <psusi> leafybasil, because it is your shell that interprets the > and tries to open the file, which it can't do [22:09] <lasconic> Hi, I have a naive questions. Does Ubuntu get firefox updates from the package manager? [22:09] <bekks> lasconic: yes. [22:09] <k1l_> lasoyes [22:09] <lasconic> ok, what about open office? [22:09] <EriC^> leafybasil: sudo doesn't go across the redirection > [22:09] <bekks> lasconic: Same thing. [22:10] <k1l_> lasconic: yes. it just takes a bit to be tested not to break everything, so it takes a day or 3 [22:10] <lasconic> and why these software and not others ? [22:10] <k1l_> lasconic: libreoffice is in the repos. but that will not get every update, just heavy bug fixes and security fixes [22:10] <leafybasil> EriC^, psusi thanks, I didn't realise. Do you have any recommended reading if I want to add some keybindings for inc/dec? [22:10] <bekks> lasconic: All software in trhe repos will get updated through the repos. [22:10] <lasconic> well that's for sure not true [22:11] <lasconic> most of the software are just not updated [22:11] <k1l_> lasconic: most software only gets heavy bug and security patches, which will not bring it to the latest version number [22:11] <lasconic> ok, how is this decided ? [22:12] <bekks> lasconic: "will get updated" doesnt mean "will stay on the bleeding edge versions" [22:12] <psusi> leafybasil, nope [22:12] <lasconic> if I make an update to my software and I consider it's major [22:12] <EriC^> leafybasil: not really, you could add a script to use sudo without a password and bind that script to a shortcut, and make sure the script is owned by root and can't be modified [22:12] <k1l_> lasconic: the maintainers decide [22:12] <lasconic> ok [22:12] <Razzdoll> I switched to ubuntu to get away from restarts everyday. The software updater is making me restart everyday too. I just don't. Any ideas lol.. [22:12] <lasconic> i will talk with the maintainer, thanks [22:12] <EriC^> leafybasil: or write your own setuid c program that gets called and changes it [22:13] <psusi> libreoffice and firefox are treated specially and get feature updates since their upstreams are very good about keeping their new releases well tested and bug free [22:13] <darlek> wifi light as been going crazy today, any ideas what to check? [22:13] <psusi> most packages aren't updated except for critical bug fixes and security fixes since often times new versions add new bugs [22:13] <leafybasil> EriC^, psusi thanks, sounds like more effort than it's worth to avoid typing a password, don't use it much anyway [22:14] <k1l_> lasconic: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates [22:14] <psusi> Razzdoll, the only time the updater tells you to restart is when you get a new kernel... which only happens when there is a security fix... doesn't happen that often [22:14] <EriC^> leafybasil: if you want google about brightness issues for the screen, cause that happens, might find something [22:14] <EriC^> it's basically the same thing just a different file [22:14] <Razzdoll> psusi: oh. ty. [22:14] <leafybasil> EriC^, screen brightmess is my next woe [22:15] <leafybasil> EriC^, but I only have two modes work, and rest [22:15] <leafybasil> EriC^, do you happen to know which file that is? [22:16] <EriC^> leafybasil: /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness most likely [22:16] <polishpoliceforc> anyone know how to modify the default settings of a webcam? so it has x settings over default Y settings on plugin from that point forward [22:16] <ahoneybun> blib, look at some of the Dell ones [22:17] <Bashing-om> leafybasil: See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Monitor_or_Screens#Sometimes_it_takes_real_tweaking_to_solve_the_problem ; has a section to control screen brightness . Maybe it will apply in your situation . [22:17] <EriC^> leafybasil: there's a program called xbacklight, might be worth a check [22:17] <darlek> Hi all. Anyone know why the wifi light would keep blinking? I can understand for Interent obviously, but now it's just constant. Trying nethogs but it shows only this connection. Should I try anything for intrusion testing or is nethogs enough? [22:17] <leafybasil> EriC^, yeah hit that already but it doesn't seem to do anything [22:18] <k1l_> darlek: sometimes its just a bad driver. [22:19] <EriC^> leafybasil: try xbacklight -set 40 [22:19] <postmodern> is ubuntu 15.04 stable enough to upgrade to? [22:20] <k1l_> postmodern: yes [22:20] <leafybasil> EriC^, I tried both the dec/inc and set commands, but none worked, I did however find /sys/class/backlight/gmux_backlight/brightmess which does :D [22:20] <leafybasil> EriC^, thank you so much fr these last two answers, so close to having my system ready [22:20] <k1l_> postmodern: if you care a lot about stablenes you might want to stay at LTS anyway [22:20] <shiznix> brainwash ikonia psusi: trying to use upstart in a desktop other than unity, fluxbox in this case [22:21] <k1l_> shiznix: which ubuntu version? [22:21] <shiznix> i can run the upstart process as 'upstart --user' and this gets the upstart processes running nicely, just none of the $UPSTART_* env variables are set [22:21] <shiznix> k1l_: 15.04 [22:22] <darlek> How to check your system for someone else using your wifi? To verify it? [22:22] <k1l_> shiznix: since 15.04 systemd is the standard init [22:22] <shiznix> not for desktop services, systemd is used for system/.boot services [22:22] <brainwash> he isn't talking about upstart as system init [22:22] <brainwash> shiznix: look at /etc/upstart-xsessions [22:26] <psusi> postmodern, if you are on 14.10 you don't have a whole lot of choice... it is no longer supported [22:27] <doomlord> can ubuntu run a single-system-image cluster [22:27] <brainwash> psusi: it's already july? [22:28] <ObrienDave> ok, end of next month ;P [22:29] <leafybasil> EriC^, totally random but do you know if its possible to bind one key to multiple keys? Like CTRL and ALT both to CMD on my macbook [22:29] <psusi> ohh, that's right... they did decide on 9 months rather than 7 [22:30] <EriC^> leafybasil: yeah, with xbindkeys, or try first settings > keyboard > shortcuts [22:30] <leafybasil> EriC^, under dwm...? [22:30] <leafybasil> EriC^, I should have prefixed the question properly [22:31] <EriC^> leafybasil: don't know about dwm [22:31] <EriC^> xbindkeys is universal though [22:31] <leafybasil> EriC^, np, I assume it will respect xbindkeys [22:31] <leafybasil> Yeah, makes sense [22:31] <EriC^> i wrote that tiny program if you want http://paste.ubuntu.com/11611909/ [22:31] <brainwash> xmodmap [22:32] <EriC^> ./program /path/to/brightness <value> [22:32] <leafybasil> bricknha1mer, [22:32] <EriC^> you can set it as a shortcut and give it the backlight or keyboard brightness file [22:32] <lotuspsychje> good evening to all [22:32] <leafybasil> brainwash, EriC^ perhaps I should explain better... I use CMD now for all my normal navigation in DWM, but I would also like to use CMD for other shortcuts like find, close window etc [22:33] <EriC^> but you need to do sudo chown root: <program> && sudo chmod +s <program> [22:34] <shiznix> brainwash: thanks, by adding 'fluxbox' entry to that file at least gets upstart trying to start on login [22:34] <shiznix> unfortunately the login hangs at lightdm login screen :/ [22:36] <EriC^> leafybasil: if you use it do sudo chmod 4700 <program> [22:36] <shiznix> guess upstart will only work on those few desktops listed in /etc/upstart-xsessions [22:36] <Jeph_ch> hello guys [22:36] <Jeph_ch> I'm back with my problem of installation [22:36] <shiznix> interestingly xfce is listed so i wonder how that could work and yet not fluxbox [22:37] <brainwash> shiznix: maybe. I would check the logs [22:37] <marlon99rocks> on lixus on play how do i use key activator [22:37] <Jeph_ch> It seem it's the usb creator on ubuntu that corrupt the usb or what [22:37] <marlon99rocks> for microsoftoffice [22:37] <Jeph_ch> I've triek with 3 different usb ans I have the save result [22:38] <lotuspsychje> !warez | marlon99rocks [22:38] <Jeph_ch> the sytem stops a 33% formating [22:38] <lotuspsychje> Jeph_ch: error? [22:38] <Jeph_ch> this is the error [22:38] <Jordan_U> Jeph_ch: Did the self integrity test succeed this time? [22:38] <ObrienDave> Jeph_ch, what size USB? [22:38] <hacker_> hi [22:39] <Jeph_ch> Creating ext2 file system for /boot0,0,0) (sdb)... in partition #1 of scsi ( [22:39] <lotuspsychje> Jeph_ch: wich ubuntu are you on? [22:39] <ObrienDave> oh lordy, use ext4 [22:39] <Jeph_ch> 16 go the second usb [22:39] <Jordan_U> Jeph_ch: Did the self integrity test succeed this time? [22:39] <Jeph_ch> 4g0 the first one [22:39] <ObrienDave> 4GB is not big enough for full install [22:39] <Jeph_ch> not at alle the system integrity fails [22:40] <Jeph_ch> self integrity pardon [22:40] <Jordan_U> Jeph_ch: Then don't even bother trying to install. [22:40] <Jeph_ch> can I try net install for ubuntu server? [22:40] <Jordan_U> Jeph_ch: Telling us about errors during install when you know the media is bad will just waste the time of those that didn't see that history. [22:41] <cdnchris> Ok here's an interesting one - new laptop, UEFI - i've got secure boot turned off, legacy boot enabled. I can boot to an Ubuntu ISO and I've used GParted to wipe the partition table. When I run the installer, I can't find a partition to install to! [22:41] <ObrienDave> all this time over a bad ISO???? [22:41] <Jordan_U> Jeph_ch: From here on out, don't even start the installer until you have run the integrity test and it has succeeded. [22:41] <hacker_> hey guys [22:41] <trism> shiznix: it just needs an upstart session file, I wrote one for awesome a while ago http://paste.ubuntu.com/11612206/ ~/.config/upstart/awesome.conf , it should work in 14.04 at least [22:41] <Jeph_ch> sorry guys [22:41] <hacker_> do any of you use metasploit [22:41] <lotuspsychje> cdnchris: disabled fastboot also mate? [22:41] <lotuspsychje> !warez | hacker_ [22:41] <Jeph_ch> is it a problem with my ubuntu laptop? [22:41] <cdnchris> I boot back into the ISO, run GParted and see an unallocated drive totally blank, but Windows boots when [22:42] <cdnchris> lotuspsychje: yep [22:42] <Jordan_U> Jeph_ch: What is the md5sum of the iso you're using? [22:42] <the_human_fly> not smart to bring that stuff up in here, hacker_ [22:42] <ObrienDave> Jeph_ch, no, it's just a bad DL. keep trying until you get a GOOD iso file [22:42] <EriC^> leafybasil: my bad, sudo chmod 4755 <program> [22:42] <Jeph_ch> oups md5 I dont know [22:42] <cdnchris> Windows boots when I don't mess with the boot order or manually select [22:42] <hacker_> i'm a pen tester [22:42] <Jeph_ch> How shoud I proceed please [22:42] <lotuspsychje> cdnchris: fastboot and secureboot? [22:42] <cdnchris> lotuspsychje: both disabled [22:42] <the_human_fly> tried the kali linux irc? [22:42] <tgm4883> hacker_: questionable [22:43] <Jeph_ch> to be certain my download is correct [22:43] <lotuspsychje> cdnchris: thats weird indeed, wich ubuntu version are you trying? [22:43] <hacker_> and help people with security issues [22:43] <cdnchris> lotuspsychje: 15.04 [22:43] <tgm4883> Jeph_ch: how do you know your download is correct if you don't know the md5sum? [22:43] <k1l_> hacker_: if you are a pentester then you have enought motivation to read the documentation to know what you are doing. for all the other kiddies trying to hack the neighbours wifi: this is the wrong place [22:43] <Jeph_ch> I'm downloading directly from ubuntu.com [22:43] <lotuspsychje> cdnchris: did you try with any other version of ubuntu? [22:43] <Jeph_ch> not at all guys sorry [22:43] <Jordan_U> !md5 | Jeph_ch [22:44] <tgm4883> Jeph_ch: just because you downloaded it from ubuntu.com doesn't mean that it wasn't corrupted during download [22:44] <k1l_> Jeph_ch: there can go a lot wrong on a download. so better check the md5sum of the iso if its ok. [22:44] <Jeph_ch> hummm [22:44] <the_human_fly> that guy... sheesh... "hey, guys...know how to hack??".... really? [22:44] <cdnchris> lotuspsychje: not yet, but I did try from a debian installer.. and same thing. [22:44] <Jeph_ch> let's me cheick that site a confirm the integrity of my download [22:44] <tgm4883> Jeph_ch: good idea [22:44] <ObrienDave> Jeph_ch, if you can use torrents, http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/ [22:44] <k1l_> the_human_fly: dont mind them. they left anyway [22:45] <tgm4883> ObrienDave: and if not, zsync to the rescue! [22:45] <lotuspsychje> cdnchris: can you boot into liveusb? [22:45] <ObrienDave> zsync +1 [22:45] <Jeph_ch> of course I have a torrent client [22:45] <tgm4883> Jeph_ch: did you download it using the torrent? [22:45] <Jeph_ch> I'm on ubuntu vivid laptop [22:45] <cdnchris> lotuspsychje: yep. and when I run gparted from the liveusb it shows a blank partition map - all unallocated [22:45] <ObrienDave> Jeph_ch, use the torrent. no MD5 needed [22:46] <Jeph_ch> No I dowloaded from firefox browser and also from google [22:46] <lotuspsychje> cdnchris: what happens when you install ubuntu [22:46] <tgm4883> Jeph_ch: check the MD5 [22:46] <the_human_fly> just be careful about what you're downloading... [22:46] <the_human_fly> double check the url [22:46] <cdnchris> lotuspsychje: it gets to the partitioning section and only sees the usb drive [22:47] <Jeph_ch> I'm going to download by torrent [22:47] <lotuspsychje> cdnchris: that sounds really like fastboot enabled...are you sure its off>? [22:47] <ObrienDave> Jeph_ch, if you can use torrents, http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/ *I share these files* [22:47] <shiznix> trism: great! trying it now :) [22:47] <tgm4883> Jeph_ch: just check the md5 [22:47] <lotuspsychje> cdnchris: changed hardware in your system recently? ssd? [22:47] <tgm4883> geez, it's like a 60 second test [22:47] <cdnchris> lotuspsychje: I'll check again. No recent changes [22:47] <lotuspsychje> cdnchris: wich brand is your system? [22:48] <Jordan_U> cdnchris: You said that you used GParted to wipe the partition table, so a completely unallocated drive seems to be what you should expect. [22:48] <ObrienDave> tgm4883, we already know it's bad. he said so [22:48] <tgm4883> ObrienDave: IIRC he said the burned cd was bad, not the ISO [22:48] <cdnchris> Jordon_U: but the installer doesn't see it as a target to install to [22:48] <tgm4883> ObrienDave: the test from the live media that is [22:49] <Jordan_U> cdnchris: You can press tab to automatically complete nicknames. [22:49] <cdnchris> Jordan_U: oops. still learning IRC [22:49] <OerHeks> fastboot/secureboot machine? [22:49] <lotuspsychje> !tab | dcn [22:49] <Jordan_U> cdnchris: Please pastebin the output of "sudo wipefs /dev/sdX" where "sdX" is the device node for the drive you're trying to install to. [22:50] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: yes, and he cant see his hd in setup partitions creen [22:51] <cdnchris> Jordan_U: will give it a go.. here's an interesting one - when I boot into the debian installer, it reads devices and pops a screen that says hey, looks like you have other OS installed in BIOS compatibility mode, want to force UEFI [22:52] <cdnchris> Jordan_U lotuspsychje OerHeks : If Windows is installed in BIOS compatibility mode, does that change things? [22:52] <the_human_fly> cdnchris, why not just install debian than overwrite it afterwords with whatever distro you want? [22:52] <cdnchris> the_human_fly: because debian has the same problem - it won't see /dev/sda [22:52] <shiznix> trism: literally awesome, that transposed nicely to fluxbox and now $UPSTART_SESSION gets set :) [22:52] <the_human_fly> oh [22:53] <Jordan_U> cdnchris: It's cumbersome to dual boot when one OS requires booting via BIOS and the other requires booting via UEFI. [22:53] <trism> shiznix: excellent [22:53] <shiznix> and still had to also add that 'fluxbox' entry to /etc/upstart-xsessions [22:54] <cdnchris> Jordan_U: that's why i'm just going to wipe and go Ubuntu all the way [22:54] <the_human_fly> it's a shame that installing OS's is getting more difficult all the time. It should be getting easier. [22:55] <cdnchris> lotuspsychje: confirmed fast startup disabled [22:56] <lotuspsychje> cdnchris: what system brand do you have? [22:56] <cdnchris> lotuspsychje: Dell XPS 15 (early 2015) [22:56] <lotuspsychje> cdnchris: sure your hd is still alive? [22:57] <cdnchris> lotuspsychje: just booted to Windows fine [22:57] <Jordan_U> cdnchris: I'm still waiting for the output from wipefs, which I expect will tell you that the drive contains RAID metadata, which will prevent good installers from continuing so that they don't desync an array by writing to the drives directly. [22:57] <Jordan_U> lotuspsychje: ^^ [22:57] <the_human_fly> are you unable to flash the bios, chris? [22:57] <Jordan_U> cdnchris: Unfortunately, most of said "good" installers aren't actually good enough to clearly explain to the user that that's what they're doing. [22:58] <cdnchris> lotuspsychje: legacy boot enabled, secure boot disabled. doesn't matter if I boot to legacy with the installer or UEFI same result [22:58] <cdnchris> Jordan_U: booting back into liveusb to run the output [22:58] <lotuspsychje> !uefi | cdnchris doublecheck all these steps again [22:58] <Jordan_U> lotuspsychje: As I said above, this is probably just a simple case of stale RAID metadata. [22:59] <cdnchris> Jordan_U: Crap. totally forgot that intel RST is enabled. Let me disable that from the windows side and then retry [22:59] <OerHeks> cdnchris, check fastboot is off [22:59] <Jeph_ch> cool guys [22:59] <cdnchris> OerHeks: off, confirmed [22:59] <OerHeks> that could cause not seen hdd nor devices in live mode [22:59] <Jeph_ch> I dowloaded with torrent and the md5 correspond [22:59] <cleanzragz> Hey OerHeks [22:59] <Jeph_ch> 487f4a81f22f8597503db3d51a1b502e [22:59] <lotuspsychje> Jordan_U: yeah, but a dell xps should be able to run ubuntu right out of the box right [23:00] <Jeph_ch> the other 5 download I made directly from ubuntu website fail the test [23:00] <ObrienDave> Jeph_ch, ok, now try unetbootin to the USB stick with the GOOD file [23:00] <Jeph_ch> but why?? this is the first time in my live I have a problem with an Iso [23:01] <cleanzragz> Jeph_ch the_human_fly Jordan_U hey dogz [23:01] <cdnchris> folks thanks this may take a bit.. wrangling some tiny humans while I'm trying to do this.. oooooh blue screen in windows trying to disable RST [23:01] <ObrienDave> Jeph_ch, who knows? you transferred 10,000,000,000 bits. any ONE could cause this error [23:03] <Jeph_ch> hummm [23:03] <the_human_fly> I'm assuming there are no admins on [23:03] <ObrienDave> there ALWAYS here [23:03] <cleanzragz> Jeph_ch: you humm on the_human_fly [23:03] <the_human_fly> I need one to dm me [23:03] <Jeph_ch> really complcated for me of this world I'm used with plug and play stuff [23:03] <cdnchris> now I'm getting the expected response - no boot device [23:03] <Jeph_ch> I's a good school with linux [23:03] <cleanzragz> cdnchris: dumb [23:04] <k1l_> the_human_fly: if there is an issue inside the ubuntu channels report in #ubuntu-ops [23:04] <ObrienDave> !behelpful | cleanzragz [23:04] <cleanzragz> !ops the_human_fly [23:04] <Jeph_ch> ah sorry it's an interjection where I'm comming in Africa [23:05] <Jeph_ch> it's like really?? or whaoo? or unbielivable?? under other skies [23:05] <lotuspsychje> Jeph_ch: keep it ubuntu related mate [23:05] <bazhang> Jeph_ch, please stay on topic [23:05] <Jeph_ch> ok [23:05] <Jeph_ch> :) [23:05] <Jeph_ch> ubtbootin is doing the job at the moment [23:06] <ObrienDave> Jeph_ch, like any new OS, it takes time to learn the in' and outs. patience grasshopper :) [23:06] <cdnchris> I think I was booting into Windows cached on the SSD [23:06] <the_human_fly> !ops cleanzragz [23:06] <Jeph_ch> We have patience in africa so I'm good to go :) [23:07] <lotuspsychje> cdnchris: did you fix it? [23:11] <tard_magnet> anyway to block a user by ip [23:12] <cdnchris> lotuspsychje Jordan_U OerHeks thanks for your help - it was Intel RST [23:12] <k1l_> tard_magnet: report it to #freenode and use ignore [23:12] <lotuspsychje> !cookie | Jordan_U [23:12] <k1l_> !ignore [23:13] <lotuspsychje> cdnchris: explain what you changed plz? [23:13] <cdnchris> lotuspsychje Jordan_U OerHeks I turned off Intel Rapid Storage Technology [23:13] <lotuspsychje> cdnchris: tnx for feedback [23:13] <tard_magnet> that cleanragz idiot keeps coming in under different nicks and dm'ing.... nevermind...I'll just try to ignore them [23:14] <OerHeks> cdnchris, nice machine [23:14] <k1l_> tard_magnet: if they are in here again report it to #ubuntu-ops . if they are not in here than report it to #freenode [23:14] <cdnchris> OerHeks, except they just introduced a newer new xps 15 [23:15] <cdnchris> OerHeks, but it is a beast. [23:18] <tard_magnet> /ignore *!*@38.95.109.37 [23:19] <tard_magnet> /ignore *!*@38.95.109.37 [23:29] <Guest64536> Get free website hosting 5GB Storage 1 MySQL Dataase, Unmetered Traffic, PHP5 Enabled, why free? Because we can afford to visit http://www.budgethost365.com or find out more send us an e-mail. [email protected] for USA and [email protected] for the UK [23:29] <Alkalino> Hello everyone! I'm sorry , can I ask questions about the installation of Ubuntu 15.04 here? [23:29] <NegativeFlare> Wow, spam. [23:29] <NegativeFlare> !ubuntu+1 | Alkalino [23:29] <NegativeFlare> wow [23:29] <NegativeFlare> sorry [23:29] <NegativeFlare> Alkalino: Sure! [23:29] <NegativeFlare> xD [23:30] <Alkalino> well I said 15.04, is that still okay, sorry I'm new [23:30] <NegativeFlare> Alkalino: yes [23:30] <NegativeFlare> What do you need [23:31] <Alkalino> thanks [23:42] <k1l_> Alkalino: just ask here [23:43] <NegativeFlare> heh [23:43] <NegativeFlare> k1l_: I've been waiting on him to ask xD [23:43] <k1l_> yeah, he is too confused now with #ubuntu+1 [23:44] <Alkalino> Ok here I go. [23:44] <NegativeFlare> k1l_: sorry [23:44] <Alkalino> im trying to install ubuntu 15.04 but it say couldn't write bytes pipe broke [23:44] <Alkalino> i left a 50gb space on disc for installation [23:45] <Alkalino> and it keeps saying so no matter if is "trying ubuntu" or "installing ubuntu" [23:45] <NegativeFlare> Alkalino: that's really weird [23:45] <Pozitron> i want to install BlueZ;but when i run "configure" command,it says "GLib>=2.6".I upgraded gnome;but it doesnt change. [23:46] <Alkalino> NegativeFlare I Know [23:46] <Alkalino> does it helps knowing that my laptop is >2010 so it has the "EUFI" thing [23:47] <Alkalino> I have turned it off an on and nothing changes [23:47] <NegativeFlare> Alkalino: Are you sure the ISO verifies with the MD5 of the one online>? [23:47] <Alkalino> I have recently installe 14.04 to a <2010 laptop and went ok [23:47] <NegativeFlare> You might have gotten a bad ISO [23:47] <Pozitron> what is your Ubuntu's version?UEFI doesnt support 32 bit ubuntu [23:47] <Alkalino> yes i did that and there's nothing wrong [23:48] <Alkalino> is the same one [23:48] <Alkalino> did I say that the loading screen keeps appearing [23:48] <Alkalino> the error message just appear for 2 secs [23:49] <Alkalino> and after that the loading screen that never quites [23:49] <LonelyDanbo> I'm having trouble with an app in WINE playing MIDI, though regular audio works fine. I notice a lot of pages mention ALSA but I seem to recall that ALSA broke my audio from working in Ubuntu. {I'm in Xubuntu.} I installed Timidity because it sounded like I needed that to play MIDI. [23:52] <Aasim_Arch> hi [23:53] <Alkalino> Aasim_Arch: hi [23:54] <aasim> wats up Alkalino [23:58] <hplc> hi, how do i get ubuntu to update whatever can be updated with source/apt-build, whenever theres a chance that can bring an update the apt-get didnt have [23:58] <hplc> i.e when sources can bring in an update apt-get cant [23:59] <hplc> sometimes the prebuilt ones are just too old in the repo [23:59] <xangua> hplc: if by sources you mean a program you compiled, you have to manually update it [23:59] <aasim> any one here use elementary
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[00:55] <^k^> 新 Ubuntu 12.04 LTS • noscript,在安全方面有什么作用? http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=470638 可以访止什么攻击? zz: DnsUB — 2015-06-06 8:54 [01:47] <^k^> 新 系统安装和升级 • 疑惑求助!进入的画面一直是安装Ubuntu14.04的界面 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=470639 本人XP系统,用的grbu4doc。昨天按照网上的教程实现了硬盘安装了Ubuntu14.04,确定安装成功了。因为我在分区中看见了“\”分区后面写的Ubuntu14.04.然后重启进入开机选择系 [01:47] <^k^> ─> 统界面,选择Ubuntu,然后在选择Ubuntu,进入的还是装ubuntu14.04界面。我感觉网上教程没有 … [02:40] <^k^> 新 系统安装和升级 • uefi多系统,装完ubuntu后再进windows 提示盗版系统 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=470641 如题,怎么解,猜测应该是slc信息未正确加载,把slc启动顺序调前,就不提示盗版了,但是ubuntu的grub2菜单也不出来了,相当于没法进ubuntu系统 zz: shanjunmei — 2015-06-06 10:3 [02:40] <^k^> ─> 9 [03:13] <^k^> 新 虚拟机和虚拟化 • 虚拟机主客两系统之间内存分配实验 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=470642 先报一下配置:i5的CPU,8G的内存,N卡笔记本。为了高效利用机器,决定采用ubuntu host + win7 guest,使用virtualBox来实现。 担心配置跑不动,于是选择了ubuntu里面最轻量级的lubuntu 14.04.0 [04:47] <Windy_> 有人么? [04:48] <ubrl> Windy_:点点点. 00:48 [04:48] <Windy_> 点点点? [04:51] <^k^> 暂无新帖 讲个笑话吧: 竟然是图片 http://i2.xiaohua.fd.zol-img.com.cn/t_s600x5000/g3/M02/00/07/Cg-4WFI2oGuIdkjeAACxq7hx3k4AALq9gP9NKgAALHD698.jpg 这个马桶别有一番韵味啊 [04:51] <Windy_> 。。。 [04:55] <modory> 谁能告诉我这个U盘上哪去找量产工具? [04:55] <modory> 信息看: http://paste.ubuntu.cn/11601728/ [05:19] <ruifeng1> .. [05:51] <Niac> 周末都不上班吗 [05:51] <gebjgd> Niac, 周末为什么要上班 [05:52] <Niac> 因为中国都是血汗工厂啊 [05:54] <gebjgd> Niac, 话说这里朝内的很多周末都不用上班 [05:54] <gebjgd> Niac, 说明你去的公司有问题 [05:55] <Niac> 入职都没培训 [05:56] <gebjgd> Niac, 入职培训? [05:56] <gebjgd> Niac, 培训老板? [06:10] <gfxmode> 我没有用shell写irclog转html的调用脚本,用Qt写了 [06:11] <gebjgd> gfxmode, 脚本语言就能搞定的事情 [06:14] <gfxmode> gebjgd: Shell好久没用过了,用Qt写了,然后Crontab调用 [06:23] <gfxmode> gebjgd: GitHub上,你Maintain的项目好多 # Maintainer: gebjgd <[email protected]> [06:23] <gebjgd> gfxmode, 我很少上 [06:24] <gebjgd> gfxmode, 看到好东西搜罗点 [06:24] <gebjgd> gfxmode, 对开源项目贡献很少 几乎没有 [06:24] <gebjgd> gfxmode, 到家不编程 [06:25] <gfxmode> gebjgd: 哦哦,感觉你挺牛逼 [06:29] <gebjgd> gfxmode, 不牛逼 很普通的程序员 混饭吃的 [06:37] <roylezzzz> gfxmode: gebjgd 是纳粹 [06:42] <gebjgd> gfxmode, roylezzzz 是我的老基友 后来我直了 结婚了 生孩子了 他还沉浸呢 [06:50] <gfxmode> 哈哈 [07:51] <Niac> 好困 [07:59] <^k^> 新 Ubuntu错误报告 • 14.04设置的波特率会被改掉? http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=470647 在rc启动脚本调用程序,设置串口波特率为9600,系统起来后发现波特率被改成了115200. 若是在系统起来后再设置波特率为9600,则波特率不会改掉。 14.04和13.04系统都有这个问题,而10.04系统没有 [08:54] <gfxmode> 好像有下载了 http://pan.baidu.com/s/1jG5Vm5K [08:54] <ubrl> gfxmode: ⇪ 雏J粤语_(new).mkv_免费高速下载|百度云 网盘-分享无限制 [09:04] <gebjgd> gfxmode, 这是什么东西 [09:10] <gfxmode> gebjgd: 阿sa拍的片 [09:10] <gfxmode> 好像叫雏妓 [09:31] <^k^> 新 手机和平板 • 魅族MX4开箱、把玩、Python、nginx、刷机 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=470649 我官网订购的MX4到手后,已经完成了把玩、PC端SSH访问,apt-get安装应用,包括不限于Python、nginx,然后我脑门一抽,装XUBUNTU、xdrp的时候reboot开机黑屏,冻屏了,之后想法自己重新刷了手 [09:31] <^k^> ─> 机,现在又满血复活了! 大家有什么想问的 zz: clyb — 2015-06-06 17:30 [09:54] <^k^> 新 初学者园地 - 15.04 • 服务器和桌面版本有本质区别吗? http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=470650 我把桌面版本安装到服务器上,应该不会有问题吧?服务器的硬件肯定比PC好(包括显卡) zz: billzt — 2015-06-06 17:53 [10:00] <^k^> 新 内核及嵌入式开发 • 安装arm-2009q3无法执行 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=470651 我用的是Ubuntu 14.04 64bit 系统 ,小白求帮助! zz: c909030221 — 2015-06-06 17:56 [10:54] <^k^> 新 网卡问题以及网络和拨号 • 求一个较通俗的双网卡内外网设置步骤 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=470653 单位服务器有两个网卡(eth0和eth1),需要:在单位局域网中用内网IP(192.168.7.X)通过SSH登陆服务器,在家里通过外网IP登陆服务器。我想这就需要把双网卡一个设成内网 [11:07] <xiaocai> hello,anybody [12:33] <^k^> 暂无新帖 讲个笑话吧: "失败"的演唱 : 女:"我的这次演唱完全失败了。" 男:"可别这么说。你看观众不是兴高采烈,全场一片掌声吗?" 女:"我正为此而伤心呢。若是观众沉沉入睡,全场一片鼾声,那该多好啊! " 男:"天呀,你指的是哪首歌?" 女:"《摇篮曲》呗! " [12:37] <^k^> 新 因特网相关软件 • 请问百度云导入Aria2 RPC的Headers怎么写 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=470656 请问百度云导入Aria2 RPC的Headers怎么写?用的是Chrome插件,旋风和迅雷正常,百度云可以添加任务但是显示header有问题。或者不是这里的Headers空白的原因?谢谢! 1.JPG 2.JPG zz: VNessie — [12:37] <^k^> ─> 2015-06-06 20:36 [13:06] <^k^> 新 初学者园地 - 15.04 • 很恐怖,求帮助!!!关于进程联网的!!! http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=470657 小白我表示这个正在接收这里,等了他一个小时没上网,也不会变成0字节/秒 然后用nethogs想看看到底哪个进程在捣鬼,结果。没有。。这是什么情况。我系统是ubuntu 14. [13:06] <^k^> ─> 04 zz: 超级多啦c梦 — 2015-06-06 21:03 [13:46] <happyaron> freeflying: 有测试的就测试啊 [13:46] <happyaron> freeflying: 没test case的就没戏了 [13:47] <^k^> 新 手机和平板 • BQ Aquaris E4.5 Ubuntu Edition 国内开箱视频 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=470658 BQ Aquaris E4.5 Ubuntu Edition 国内开箱视频 (链接)http://v.pps.tv/play_3OXELE.html zz: cwb5206 — 2015-06-06 21:13 [14:05] <freeflying> happyaron: lxc贵司肯定测了吧 [14:09] <^k^> 新 初学者园地 - 15.04 • 从图形界面如何以 sudo 运行程序? http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=470659 装了一个 wireshark。从左侧工具栏点击图标运行,没有可用的 interface。从终端运行 sudo wireshark 才有。 能不能在点图标时加上 sudo 权限? zz: saintthor — 2015-06-06 22:08 [14:11] <happyaron> freeflying: 没有几个case https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/wily/view/AutoPkgTest/job/wily-adt-lxc/ARCH=amd64,label=adt/9/artifact/results/exercise-stdout/*view*/ [14:11] <ubrl> ⇪ t: type=text/plain ; 长度=313.00 B [14:11] <freeflying> happyaron: 做ci不 [14:11] <happyaron> freeflying: 这不就是么 [14:12] <happyaron> https://jenkins.linuxcontainers.org/view/LXC/ [14:12] <freeflying> happyaron: 贵司牛逼啊,现在也有ci了 [14:12] <ubrl> ⇪ f: LXC [Jenkins] [14:12] <happyaron> freeflying: 额这是咋个意思 [14:12] <happyaron> lxc 的case太少了 [14:12] <freeflying> happyaron: 以前没ci啊 [14:13] <happyaron> freeflying: 现在CI可能是全司里做技术的部门里最有含量的了 [14:18] <happyaron> freeflying: cjwaston 都转组过去了 [14:24] <freeflying> 🐂
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2015-06-06-#ubuntu-app-devel
[03:59] <mhall119> it doesn't? it should be a dependency [03:59] <mhall119> unless they've dropped that dependency now that qmake us supported [04:01] <Pardal> hi all [14:29] <mario__> hi guys...I am developing a scope and I would like to know if there is any way to start a new search by clicking on a button in the preview area. I only found this: [14:29] <mario__> https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/scopes/tutorials/linking-queries-in-scopes/ [14:30] <mario__> but it is not very helpful as this code only helps me changing the scope's category after triggering an action [15:04] <Pardal> Hi all !! [15:33] <moviuro> unless you're just as uncooperative as #ubuntu, I would like one of you to run this on "sh": if [ "$(uname -s)" = "FreeBSD" ] || [ "$(uname -s)" = "Linux" ]; then echo "OK"; fi [15:36] <moviuro> okay, nvm [20:41] <nik90> zsombi: hey, when you find some time, could you covert your sample project to a CMAKE project? I face similar issues when I tried converting it to CMAKE [20:41] <nik90> zsombi: referring to https://code.launchpad.net/~zsombi/+junk/AppTheming [20:54] <nik90> zsombi: I got it to work but only if it is outside the app/ folder! Not sure how this still works in terms of the folder location..that's why if you could experiment putting it inside the app folder and getting it to work would be appreciated (with sdk's default cmake template) [20:58] * nik90 gets back to hacking on podbird theming [22:52] <nik90> zsombi: found bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1462690 while testing. I also noticed that dynamic switching of application theme is not possible anymore :/
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2015-06-06-#ubuntu-ops
[03:28] <phunyguy> @comment 67940 user abusing an ip range at hosting provider. If this affects anyone innocent, we can modify. It's a small range, 30 days [03:28] * phunyguy nods [05:12] <bynarie> hello. can i be unbanned from #ubuntu? [05:14] <bynarie> ill check back later.. thanks [23:05] <bazhang> * [Jeph_ch] ([email protected]): [23:06] <bazhang> guess who [23:06] <Unit193> Heh, stalker has nothin' on him. [23:07] <bazhang> [Gv007] (2e17426a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.46.23.66.106): 46.23.66.106 - [23:07] <bazhang> aka the_8 [23:15] <bazhang> tard_magnet is tag teaming, I 'd bet [23:15] <tard_magnet> I'm being harrassed by a user with the ip 38.95.109.37.... he keeps changing nicks and dm'ing me threats [23:15] <bazhang> tard_magnet, use /ignore and /mode yournick +g [23:16] <tard_magnet> ok, thanks [23:17] <tard_magnet> sorry for the n00bish question but, I just typed /ignore and my nick..... did I do that right? [23:17] <bazhang> no [23:17] <tard_magnet> sorry [23:18] <Unit193> /ignore *!*@38.95.109.37 [23:18] <tard_magnet> thanks again... I won't bother you guys with this anymore. appreciate the help [23:30] <k1l_> @mark #ubuntu Guest64536 spam
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2015-06-06-#ubuntu-us-dc
[22:57] <swift110> hey all
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2015-06-06-#ubuntu-cm
[14:00] <septox> salut a tous [14:01] <septox> ping kenju254 [14:02] <septox> ping jay-m [14:02] <septox> ping coco1 [14:04] <jay-m> hello world :) [14:12] <coco1> (y) [14:15] <coco1> Hello jay-m: [19:36] <coco1> .. [19:37] <coco1> septox: Salut [19:38] <coco1> désolé mais je n'étais pas tout près lorsque tu as envoyé ton Ping
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2015-06-06-#launchpad
[14:37] <grepper> wgrant: I repacked the debian/ubuntu to use the python3 ready 'txt2tags' script from the python3 branch of txt2tags. (more or less as you suggested). Where would be a good place to upload it to? Current ppa is called 'tovid-ppa' at https://launchpad.net/~grepper/+archive/ubuntu/ppa. Do I just create a branch for it within that ppa? [21:49] <wgrant> grepper: I don't understand what you mean by "branch for it within that ppa". You can just upload the package to that PPA, no need for a branch. [21:51] <grepper> wgrant: okay, I just thought it was strange to have a 'txt2tags' in a ppa named 'tovid-ppa' [21:51] <wgrant> grepper: Shrug, it's a dependency, seems reasonable to me. [21:52] <grepper> maybe I have been using branches wrongly, too much svn background I guess - I created a 0.35.2 branch when I updated from 0.35.1 which was dumb I guess ? [21:53] <wgrant> grepper: What do you mean by "created a 0.35.2 branch"? [21:54] <wgrant> What kind of branch? [21:55] <grepper> for uploading code [21:56] <grepper> https://code.launchpad.net/~grepper [21:56] <wgrant> Ah, so you mean an actual Bazaar branch, right. [21:57] <grepper> yes [21:57] <wgrant> Using branches that way isn't by any means wrong, but it's unusual. [21:57] <wgrant> It would be more common to have eg. a 0.35 branch which gets updated with 0.35.1, 0.35.2, etc. [21:57] <wgrant> Since a branch with 0.35.1 in the name is probably always going to be 0.35.1, which makes it sorta pointless. [21:57] <grepper> you mean using tags ? [21:58] <grepper> ie. to be able to go back and check out older code [21:58] <wgrant> Right, it's common to use tags to specify which revision corresponds to which package version. [21:58] <wgrant> Tools like debcommit will automatically add them for you. [21:58] <grepper> okay, thanks [21:59] <wgrant> If you look at Ubuntu's official branches, we have one for each package for each series. [21:59] <wgrant> eg. there's the dpkg trusty branch, the dpkg vivid branch, etc. [21:59] <grepper> guess I'm royally confused after just moving my project from google code to githup (svn -> git) and now bzr [22:00] <grepper> I have it backwards I guess [22:00] <grepper> as all dists are in each branch [22:00] <wgrant> In terms of how you use them to manage releases, branches in all three VCSes are reasonably similar. [22:00] <grepper> not that it really matters as its exactly the same code [22:00] <wgrant> Right, you probably don't want to operate quite like Ubuntu. [22:00] <grepper> okay, thanks for your clarification [22:01] <wgrant> Ubuntu doesn't push the same release to everywhere -- we don't push 2.0 to trusty if trusty had 1.0 originally. [22:01] <wgrant> So we need separate branches so we can backport fixes to any version in a stable release. [22:01] <wgrant> In your case, you probably have a single branch that builds on all series. [22:01] <grepper> right [22:01] <wgrant> It might make sense to just have a "tovid-ppa" branch, for example. [22:02] <grepper> maybe I'll tag then merge them, if I can figure out how ...
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2015-06-06-#kubuntu
[01:11] <s0n1c_666> whats the room for kali ? [01:11] <s0n1c_666> anyone? [01:13] <s0n1c_666> nm [02:40] <olvier> hye [02:40] <Guest11178> KOUKOU [04:32] <Guest11178> Bye [04:38] <s0n1c_666> bye [07:42] <Ab3L> hi [07:44] <Ab3L> i don't know if here is the right place to ask it (or if my question is OT), but i've a problem with Thunderbird 31.7.0 (on my kubuntu 14.04) [07:45] <Ab3L> when i open an e-mail with attachment, they are not shown unless i try first to transfer the e-mail. [07:46] <Ab3L> i would like to see the attachments at the end of the e-mail immediatly (without to have to try to transfert the e-mail) [07:47] <Ab3L> thunderbird is configured to use IMAP. [07:50] <Ab3L> IMO, thunderbird shows the e-mail without to download the attachment, and it downloads it only when i try to transfert. Then, only after that the attachment is accessible. If so, it will may be possible to set thunderbird to download attachments immediatly (or at least when the e-mail is opened) [08:06] <valorie> Ab3L: I think there is a tbird chan, let me check [08:07] <Ab3L> hi valorie [08:07] <valorie> hmm, there is such a chan, but only 2 in it [08:07] <Ab3L> i just found yet on irc.mozilla.org [08:07] <valorie> I wonder if it is just a guide to mozilla's official chan [09:53] <lordievader> Good morning. [10:47] <amichair> Hey, does anyone know where one can find statistics of how many users use Activities? I was wondering if I'm in the minority or majority, and how big those are... [11:32] <howlymowly> hi everyone... short question: I am on kubuntu 15.04 and want to use dropbox... there is a little problem though, because the dropbox icon does not show up in the systray ... [11:32] <howlymowly> I am trying to use stalonetray but for some reason [11:33] <howlymowly> dropbox and other icons from "old" applications don't show up ... [11:33] <howlymowly> ay idea whas going on here? [11:45] <mparillo> howlymowly: http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2014/06/where-are-my-systray-icons/ [11:45] <mparillo> That said, I used Dropbox, and I just follow the CLI instructions, and when I want to get fancy I use the python scripts. [11:52] <eXistenZe> hey there [11:53] <eXistenZe> anyone using dropbox with kubuntu 15.04? [11:58] <mparillo> I am. CLI only. [12:02] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all [12:04] <eXistenZe> mparillo: with a working tray icon? [12:05] <lordievader> Hey eXistenZe [12:06] <eXistenZe> hey lordievader . Thanks for the tips with kvm. Working fine [12:07] <lordievader> eXistenZe: Nice, nice :) [12:08] <eXistenZe> Needs two full two cores and 2Gb mem to work, so everything else turns not very smooth [12:14] <eXistenZe> Now it's dropbox giving me trouble. CLI works fine, but tray icon does not work in plasma 5 apparently [12:15] <lordievader> I'm sure you've read Martin's blog post? [12:17] <eXistenZe> lordievader: Hum... right... But just to be sure can you send me the link :) :) [12:19] <lordievader> eXistenZe: mparillo posted it at 13:45 ;) http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2014/06/where-are-my-systray-icons/ [12:20] * eXistenZe confused [12:23] <eXistenZe> so I need wmsystemtray is that it? [12:23] <lordievader> For example, yes. [12:31] <eXistenZe> done. does it need config or just logout? [12:36] <lordievader> eXistenZe: Just launch it. [12:38] <eXistenZe> a white box on the corner with nothing on it? [12:40] <lordievader> Hmm, it should have the missing icons. [12:40] <lordievader> And yes it is ugly.. [12:41] <eXistenZe> no missing icon and definitly ugly [13:15] <howlymowly> eXistenZe: same probllem here, right now.. I treid stalonetray and wmsystemtray but icons just dont show up ... [13:16] <howlymowly> your wmsystemtray doesn't work either, right? [13:41] <eXistenZe> howlymowly: it does not show the icons [13:42] <howlymowly> eXistenZe: I have the exact same problem here (kubuntu 15.04 + plasma 5.3 + dropbox)... no idea what to do about this ... [13:42] <howlymowly> I tried all available "alternative" trays from the repositories.. (trayer, wmsystemtray, stalonetray etc..) [13:42] <howlymowly> none of them work [13:51] <eXistenZe> dropbox deb is made for gnome and nautilus [13:51] <eXistenZe> perhaps it's not even a plasma or kde problem [14:05] <howlymowly> eXistenZe: i have this problem not only with dropbox also with several other applications.. I guess this is a general problem with the new kde [14:05] <howlymowly> or rather: i think we would have to do some additional configuration so these applications can register themselfes in the party trays ... [14:05] <howlymowly> but i have no idea how I would do that [14:13] <eXistenZe> I'm just a n00b so no help from me [14:24] <salotz> Hello is anybody here available to help me? [14:24] <salotz> I am trying to use Kwalletmanager but I cannot get the application to open now, after I put my passwords in it... [14:36] <howlymowly> eXistenZe: skype doesn't work, also .... [14:42] <salotz> umm ok I'm just leaving KDE I can't be messing around with a password manager that randomly decides to not work as I am setting it up [15:07] <[Relic]> what is filename for setting screen resolutions in 15.04? [15:11] <BluesKaj> best to use the sytem settings>display&monitor>dispaly configuration, [Relic] [15:11] <murthy> Saw this article on phoronix, you came to my mind :) http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=PulseAudio-2015-Awesome [15:11] <murthy> BluesKaj: ^ [15:14] <BluesKaj> murthy, well, it's his opinion, and I have mine based on personal experince with several computers, but I need pulseaudio for my media server pc soundcard, that doesn't mean I have to like it :-) [15:16] <[Relic]> BluesKaj, display configureation seems broken since it won't allow the normal resolution for my monitor [15:16] <BluesKaj> [Relic], which gpu ? [15:18] <murthy> I read some where that there was some new features coming to kmix may be there were discussions about pulseaudio which could had lead to the article [15:18] <[Relic]> I tried a new session trying to see if that would release the memory leak in xorg and it came up proper then I shut down since it was up to nearly 4G of ram for xorg and when I started the computer today I am stuck with 1024x768 and my normal 1920x1080 isn't even an option in display configuration [15:19] <[Relic]> BluesKaj, it is a 430gt and had no problem before starting today [15:20] <[Relic]> BluesKaj, I just can't find any setting file to erase or reset on 15.04 [15:23] <BluesKaj> [Relic], it's in system settings GUI , find it in the kmenu/kicker apps>settings>systemsettings [15:24] <BluesKaj> ok are you using an xorg.conf files? [15:24] <[Relic]> BluesKaj, I need the file name, not the broken system settings screen [15:24] <BluesKaj> why didn't you say systems settings is broken [15:25] <[Relic]> BluesKaj, the system setting won't go over 1360x768, the monitor is normally 1920x1080 [15:26] <BluesKaj> ok ,run lspci -knn | egrep -A 3 'VGA|3D' , pastebin the output [15:27] <BluesKaj> [Relic],^ [15:28] <[Relic]> BluesKaj, http://pastebin.com/3E6BFHC7 [15:32] <BluesKaj> [Relic], seems you have the correct driver. Have you run an upgrade or dist-upgrade lately ? [15:34] <[Relic]> I do whatever updates show up and I have backports setting in hope they will fix the critical error with sessions not saving [15:34] <[Relic]> refusues to show history of updates [15:35] <BluesKaj> 15.04 ? [15:35] <[Relic]> yep [15:36] <BluesKaj> that's a weird problem , haven't seen that before on 15.04 [15:40] <[Relic]> trying to force old nvidia drivers to see it that works but going slow [15:40] <BluesKaj> my res is 1920x1080 as well, but there's no adjustment required , it defaults to that resolution [15:40] <Fachher> Hi everyone [15:40] <Fachher> Since last upgrade my desktop does not load [15:41] <BluesKaj> [Relic], which driver are you sing , is the 340? [15:41] <Fachher> Does anybody have similliar problems [15:41] <[Relic]> trying to force it back to 340 [15:42] <BluesKaj> Fachher, what do you see after the login page ? [15:42] <Fachher> Only my mouse cursor [15:42] <Fachher> When I press Alt + F2 I can see the console [15:42] <Fachher> in the top [15:43] <Fachher> BluesKaj, Do you have any ideas where I can look for logs [15:44] <BluesKaj> Fachher, ctl+alt+F1-F6 is the virtual terminal/TTY , can you update and upgrade from there? [15:44] <Fachher> BluesKaj, I already did ctrl+alt+F1 then sudo apt-get upgrade [15:45] <BluesKaj> Fachher, sudo apt-get update first, then upgrade [15:45] <Fachher> BluesKaj, did it too [15:45] <BluesKaj> then try dist-upgrade [15:46] <Fachher> okay [15:57] <Fachher> BluesKaj, Okay everything works again [15:57] <Fachher> BluesKaj, Was there a know issue? [15:57] <Fachher> BluesKaj, Thank you for your help [15:58] <BluesKaj> Fachher, sometimes there are fixes in the backports that require a dist-upgrade, usually from the developers [15:59] <Fachher> BluesKaj, Ah okay [15:59] <BluesKaj> Fachher, especially with the new plasma 5 desktop [16:00] <Fachher> BluesKaj, can you recommend any good book or websource to read more about it. (backports etc) [16:04] <BluesKaj> Fachher, can't think of one offhand, but here's a site that explains a lot https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports [16:07] <al8989> hello how do i use ndis wrapper to install a wireless network adaptor driver and what version of driver do i want , do i want the windows 7, the windows vista or thewindows xp version of the driver? [16:10] <BluesKaj> al8989, which wifi chip do you have? [16:24] <al8989> BluesKaj I have a realtek 8187B, with the linux drivers it keeps randomly disconnecting the wifi so figured i would try the windows i readthey weremore responsiveand when i have windows 7 onthe pc it works fine and didnot randomly disconnect [16:26] <al8989> BluesKaj I have a realtek 8187B, with the linux drivers it keeps randomly disconnecting the wifi so figured i would try the windows drivers as i readthey were more responsive and when i have windows 7 on the pc it works fine and did not randomly disconnect [16:28] <al8989> i tired the usbcore.autosuspend=-1 and =0 as genii suggested, but they did nothing to fix my problen [16:31] <BluesKaj> al8989, it's ausb dongle ? [16:31] <al8989> yes [16:32] <BluesKaj> on a desktop or laptop? [16:32] <al8989> a desktop [16:32] <al8989> i am usign the dongle becausei have no wire to connect via wire due to my pos system using up all the ports on my router in my business [16:40] <BluesKaj> al8989, buy a switch and some cable instead of fooling with a wifi chip that's known to be unstable on linux, http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/basics/lanwan-basics/31442-how-to-add-ports-to-a-router [16:43] <al8989> i already have two switched on that network one down farther for the pos to bring into to my restaurant from my seafoodstore and one to supply internet into my living area next door [16:44] <al8989> can i add a third? [16:46] <BluesKaj> if you can add a wifi device to the internet connection with all the other working connections, I don't see what difference another ethernet connection will make [16:48] <al8989> ah ok well when my network was isntalled and setup by comcast business and the micros pos company they said not to add too many switches on your network as it decreases the speed and performance of internet connection [16:58] <BluesKaj> al8989, well an extra wifi or ethernet connection are both going thru the same router so i don't see that either will make much difference in internet performance [17:06] <al8989> ok then i'll guess i'l do that then [17:11] <BluesKaj> al8989, I'm sure that kind of setup will solve your dropout problem [18:22] <amari> Hi, I'm using Kubuntu 15.04 fully update. My graphics card is from Intel. I have graphics corruption with the desktop effects, like black artifacts when I move or maximize the windows. Is it a common, known bug and does anyone else have the same situation? [18:30] <amari> Hi, I'm using Kubuntu 15.04 fully update. My graphics card is from Intel. I have graphics corruption with the desktop effects, like black artifacts when I move or maximize the windows. Is it a common, known bug and does anyone else have the same situation? [18:33] <amari> This is really annoying because I would like to use KDE5. Is there any solution? [18:33] <BluesKaj> amari, make sure you update, upgrade and dist-upgrade your packages since plasma 5 is still under deveopment , this should bring your system up to date and fix most desktop problems [18:43] <amichair> Hey, does anyone know where one can find statistics of how many users use Activities? I was wondering if I'm in the minority or majority, and how big those are... [18:44] <al8989> ty for the help blueskaj [18:45] <BluesKaj> al8989, hope it works out for you. [18:48] <al8989> oh im sure it will was just trying to not spend anymore money on eqipment, because the computer had windows 7 on it but the main hard drive died so i decided to make the the extra hard drive the primary drive so i could reinstall everything on the pc and get it working again but did not have a windows 7 cd so rather than reinstall windows 7 on it a pay $200 for a cd or $500 fora new pc i decided to install kubuntu and i fixed the pc [18:48] <al8989> for no money spent [18:48] <al8989> well now it will be spending a ittle money [18:52] <al8989> well now it looks like i will be spending a ittle money [18:57] <hudsonkem> hello, .. why this button not work? http://i.imgur.com/qvJUBmi.png  [19:30] <[Relic]> Anyone know where the 15.04 video setting file is? [19:56] <dougl> [Relic], ? [19:56] <[Relic]> my screen resolution is screwed up and I can't get it to reset so I am looking for the setting file to hopefully get rid of the problem [19:56] <dougl> I dont but I think there is a better question... [19:57] <dougl> so you are console only (text)? [19:57] <[Relic]> no xorg.conf that I can see in 15.04 [19:58] <dougl> yeah - that disappeared when I was not looking not sure what they use currently... [19:58] <dougl> did you nvidia anything? [19:59] <MichaelP> You have to create xorg.conf file [19:59] <[Relic]> even tried downgrading and upgrading the nvidia driver, can't get the upgrade history or I would uninstall the last few items to see if that did it [20:00] <[Relic]> tried writing the info in the system settings area for it but it must keep them somewhere, but I haven't found it yet, my old kscreen file is correct from before the upgrade [20:00] <dougl> googling 15.04 ubuntu x configure form console [20:01] <[Relic]> got gfx it is just a weird resolution [20:03] <MichaelP> have you did your nvidia-xconfig command [20:04] <[Relic]> WARNING: Unable to locate/open X configuration file. [20:04] <dougl> did you sudo that? [20:07] <MichaelP> could check out the wiki on arch for nvidia... https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/NVIDIA [20:12] <[Relic]> don't think the gfx card is the problem, need to figure out how to check and see how it sees this monitor, it never read crt-1 before [21:42] <eXistenZe> Hey guys [21:42] <cofo> hi. Anyone know Java to help me analyze class to make a license ? [21:43] <eXistenZe> Is the "get new widgets" option broken? I installed gmail feed but it does not show on the list... [21:52] <valorie> eXistenZe: is it on the list? [21:52] <valorie> because widgets have to be ported to Plasma5 to work [21:52] <valorie> and not all have been ported yet [21:53] <valorie> this would be in 15.04 - you didn't say [21:53] <valorie> cofo: there are loads of java chans on freenode [21:53] <valorie> !alis | cofo [21:54] <cofo> im not registered [21:55] <valorie> cofo: I don't understand -- registered with who/what? [21:56] <cofo> in here [21:56] <cofo> i need to login [21:56] <cofo> no password.. [21:57] <eXistenZe> valorie: yes, it's 15.04. The widget is on the get new widgets, it installs, but it does not show on the Add widgets menu. [21:57] <valorie> !register | cofo [22:51] <ringlej> I have kubuntu 14.04 installed, and when I configure from System Settings, Instant Messaging and VoIP to add a Jabber account, it appears to work. But, if I logout and login again, the configuration is lost [22:54] <ringlej> I noticed that after I add the Jabber account, the Apply button never gets enabled, so I never have the opportunity to click it [22:56] <valorie> hmmm [22:56] <valorie> you might check for an rc file or so in your ~/.kde folder [22:56] <valorie> either .kde/share/apps [22:56] <valorie> or configs [22:57] <valorie> they are just text files, so you can easily edit and save [22:58] <valorie> also a lot of applications save their configs at exit, so be sure to quite the application(s) before logging out [22:59] <ringlej> I'll try exiting the app... I don't see any rc being created after creating the account [23:00] <ringlej> hmmm... the KDE IM Contacts app doesn't seem to have a quit option that I can find. [23:02] <ringlej> so, I managed to see that it created a ~/.kde/share/apps/ktp/cache.db file but no rc file [23:46] <[Relic]> any chance the history of upgrades are stored in a file somewhere that I can access since the muon history tab craps out every time
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2015-06-06-#snappy
[04:15] <rsalveti> sergiusens: yup, there should be a new image with the core changes [18:18] <longsleep> Hi folks, quick question - how does one submit OEM packages to the Snappy store? [20:12] <beuno> longsleep, same as any other package [20:12] <beuno> but it'll get sent to a manual review queue [20:17] <longsleep> beuno: All right, i figured that - i was just confused that i could not select OEM or something. It is in review now. [20:18] <longsleep> beuno: What about device tarballs, these are not to be supposed to be added to the store i figured. Seems a little strange to me though as not devices might not work with standard kernel. [20:19] <beuno> longsleep, all pieces will be snap pacakges soon :) [20:20] <longsleep> beuno: Really? Is there some doc i can read on this?
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2015-06-06-#ubuntu-za
[00:04] <monkeyjoe> hmm /k MaNI [06:20] <Kilos> morning all [07:01] <Kilos> hi Tonberry [08:31] <inetpro> good mornings [08:32] <Kilos> hello inetpro hows you? [08:33] <Kilos> let me know when you got some time please [08:35] <inetpro> Kilos: not today unfortunately [08:35] <Kilos> np sir [08:35] <inetpro> only have a few minutes now [08:35] <inetpro> what's up doc? [08:35] <Kilos> its just the setting up of QA to record minutes etc [08:36] <inetpro> hmm... [08:36] <Kilos> no rush [08:36] <Kilos> will still be weeks to first official meeting [08:38] <inetpro> why weeks? [08:39] <Kilos> gotta be after Ramadhan [08:39] <Kilos> otherwise half of africa wont attend [08:40] <inetpro> 'no rush' is often used sarcastically [08:40] <Kilos> sarcastic- me- never [08:40] <inetpro> :-) [08:40] <Kilos> haha [08:41] <Kilos> otherwise we can get meetingology there then cheche must chair [08:41] <Kilos> hehe [08:42] <Kilos> hi georgelappies [08:43] <inetpro> might even be a good idea to have the meeting in #ubuntu-meeting Kilos? [08:43] <Kilos> oh my [08:43] <inetpro> why not? [08:43] <Kilos> more rocking of the boat [08:44] <inetpro> why? [08:44] <Kilos> hi Russ_ solidity [08:44] <inetpro> Kilos: it's just a thought [08:44] <Russ_> hi Kilos [08:44] <inetpro> wb Russ_ [08:44] <Kilos> i like the idea inetpro [08:44] <Russ_> hey inetpro [08:45] <inetpro> Russ_: you still haven't upgraded your nginx? [08:45] <Kilos> lol [08:45] <Russ_> lol I put on FB "Whats the object oriented way to becoming rich? Inheritance" and my gran liked my post xD [08:45] <inetpro> lol [08:45] <Kilos> haha [08:45] <Russ_> but [08:45] <Russ_> I did update nginx [08:45] <Russ_> :C [08:46] <Russ_> what is latest? [08:46] <Russ_> afaik I'm on latest stable :D? [08:46] <Kilos> Russ_ dont you want to cloak your nick? [08:46] <Russ_> well how many people wanna get all up in my shit [08:46] <inetpro> 1.9.1 [08:46] <Kilos> hen peeps wont see your site when you login on irc [08:47] <Russ_> the fuck [08:47] <Russ_> I [08:47] <Russ_> I updated [08:47] <Russ_> but it's on 1.2.1 [08:47] <inetpro> and on Ubuntu 15.04 it's 1.6.2 [08:47] <Russ_> what did I even do :C [08:47] <Kilos> lol [08:48] <Russ_> well [08:48] <inetpro> Russ_: no worries... I'm just teasing [08:48] <Russ_> my serveer is debian [08:48] <Russ_> so I'm actually not surprised it's so far behind [08:48] <Russ_> prolly IS latest [08:48] <inetpro> exactly [08:50] <inetpro> Kilos: the CoC process is simple really [08:50] <inetpro> I mean, if you follow the instructions everything should just work [08:50] <Kilos> inetpro did you write it down [08:50] <inetpro> Kilos: no need, it's all there [08:51] <Kilos> the official one? [08:51] <inetpro> just RTFS https://help.launchpad.net/Signing%20the%20Ubuntu%20Code%20of%20Conduct [08:51] <Kilos> thats for peeps that harp on and understand rtfs [08:51] <Kilos> lol [08:51] <Kilos> you beat me [08:52] <Kilos> i hate rtfs [08:52] <inetpro> it's all layed out very nice in a step by step explanation [08:52] <Kilos> did you get the new guy sorted? [08:52] <Kilos> i was poegaai [08:53] <inetpro> yep Cryterion is all done... I think [08:53] <Kilos> well done [08:53] <Kilos> see i told him ask mr fixit [08:53] <inetpro> only thing I didn't test with him is sending signed emails [08:53] <Kilos> hi pieter2627 [08:53] <inetpro> but then I none of you have tested that either [08:53] <inetpro> hi pieter2627 [08:53] <Kilos> nope [08:53] <Russ_> should I instal nginx 1.6 from backports? :( [08:54] <Russ_> install* [08:54] <Russ_> how insecure is 1.2? :D [08:54] <pieter2627> morning Kilos, inetpro and all others [08:54] <Kilos> i used that once with my linux counter number but it adds more stuff [08:54] <inetpro> Russ_: I wouldn't, unless you really want to because of specific reasons [08:54] <Russ_> I don't really want to :p [08:54] <Kilos> Russ_ inetpro wont aptitude reinstall nginx work [08:55] <inetpro> stick with tried and tested [08:55] <pieter2627> debugging something? [08:55] <Kilos> aptitude or apt-get should upgrade it to stable [08:56] <inetpro> Kilos: stop [08:56] <Kilos> maybe even apt-get upgrade [08:56] <Kilos> ok [08:56] <Russ_> O_O [08:56] <Russ_> ffs I need a new nick [08:56] <Russ_> WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY [08:56] <inetpro> Russ_: /nick newnick [08:56] <Kilos> why? [08:56] <Russ_> I know how inetpro [08:57] <Russ_> :p [08:57] <Russ_> Russ is taken [08:57] <Russ_> Russ_ [08:57] <Russ_> is taken [08:57] <inetpro> ai! [08:57] <Kilos> eish [08:57] <Russ_> Russ__ is taken [08:57] <Russ_> time to keep the trend [08:57] <Russ_> oh wait I can't change my nick [08:57] <Russ_> is #freenode blocking it while I'm joined or what [08:58] <Kilos> /nick newnick [08:58] <inetpro> unlikely [08:58] <Russ_> I know HOW to change my nick, it just won't [08:58] <Kilos> wow [08:58] <Russ_> on shadowfire they blocked nick changes in #shadowfire [08:58] <Russ_> I feel like that is happening now [08:58] <Russ_> or they don't allow Russ___ ;p [08:59] <Russ_> oh [08:59] <Russ_> it was #git [09:00] <_Russ> #git was blocking my nick change [09:00] <inetpro> eish! [09:00] <_Russ> [10:56:56] * Russ___ #git :Cannot change nickname while banned on channel [09:00] <_Russ> forgot to check status window [09:00] <Kilos> lol [09:00] <inetpro> now to find the _ each time [09:00] <_Russ> >:) [09:01] <_Russ> if _ is shit to type I'll use something like R_uss? :( [09:01] <_Russ> toys_R_uss [09:01] <inetpro> lol [09:01] <_Russ> fuckit [09:01] <rusbus> good ol fallback [09:01] <rusbus> not regged too [09:01] <rusbus> :D [09:02] <inetpro> interesting nick [09:02] <inetpro> Registered : Jun 06 09:02:18 2015 (22s ago) [09:03] <rusbus> >:) [09:03] <rusbus> I went like 20 years of my life never being called rusbus once ever [09:03] <rusbus> then in one year it just caught on [09:03] <rusbus> and as I was meeting new people they were calling me rusbus? [09:03] <rusbus> MY FATHER EVEN SAID IT [09:05] <inetpro> sounds almost like ruspes [09:05] <rusbus> which is? [09:05] <inetpro> rusbus: http://af.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kommandowurm [09:05] <rusbus> I just realised all this time I had been reading your nick as 'intrepo' [09:06] <inetpro> Ruspes word gevind in twee morfologies onderskeibare vorme: 'n "skoolvormende" tipe.... [09:08] <inetpro> as in larvae [09:08] <rusbus> https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/11147109_1011651142186304_836040249344679329_n.jpg?oh=6b5add98685f32b1d9f148b872dd7727&oe=55F56BC7 [09:08] <rusbus> rofl [09:08] <rusbus> that tanker driving through flamees [09:08] <rusbus> flames* [09:08] <rusbus> the actual fuck? [09:09] <inetpro> rusbus: just need to keep the language in tact now please :-) [09:09] <rusbus> woops [09:09] <rusbus> so [09:09] <rusbus> z [09:09] * inetpro likes the new nick [09:10] <rusbus> never needed to watch my language on IRC beforee [09:10] * rusbus hides his head in shame [09:10] <inetpro> hope you stick around [09:10] <rusbus> well unless if my znc breaks - again - I'll be here for a while [09:10] <rusbus> znc is the most snore thing to fix [09:10] <inetpro> Kilos: you see, I can be a friendly greeter also [09:11] <rusbus> ok so who is gonna plat dota with me [09:11] <inetpro> dota? [09:11] <rusbus> play* [09:11] <rusbus> dotaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa [09:12] <Kilos> lemme scroll, was outside [09:13] <rusbus> Kilos you didn't miss anything really [09:13] <rusbus> inetpro levelled up greet [09:13] <inetpro> :-) [09:14] <Kilos> haha [09:14] <rusbus> so why all these saffers on a non-saffer network? [09:14] <inetpro> rusbus: uh, it's freenode [09:15] <rusbus> I know [09:15] <rusbus> :? [09:15] <inetpro> been around for FLOSS for ever [09:16] <rusbus> just makes sense to me that if you're a south african and you use IRC then you'd be on a south african network too? :P [09:16] <inetpro> and it's not like we're exlusively south african in here [09:16] <inetpro> IT is not an island [09:17] <rusbus> but islands are so cool ;c [09:18] <inetpro> we tried several times in the past to get a SA freenode server going... [09:18] <inetpro> but it's never happened for several reasons [09:18] <rusbus> I mean a properly local server like atrum or shadowfire [09:19] <Kilos> ah he neology guy was looking into that [09:19] <Kilos> i wonder what happened [09:19] <inetpro> CLUG is on atrum [09:20] <rusbus> #chat is on shadowfire :D? [09:20] <inetpro> ai! [09:22] <Kilos> hi squish102 [09:23] <inetpro> rusbus: people come and go all the time... I see no need to jump ship right now [09:23] <Kilos> welcome to ubuntu-za [09:23] <rusbus> not saying jump ship [09:25] <inetpro> rusbus: what are you saying? [09:26] <rusbus> nothing [09:26] <inetpro> lol [09:28] <rusbus> how stupid crazy cold is it [09:28] <Kilos> horrible [09:29] <rusbus> wearing 3 pairs of socks, undies + thermal undies (with long legs), a hoodie and a onezie [09:29] <rusbus> still cold! [09:30] <Kilos> dont those longjons help [09:30] <rusbus> I've worn these throughout a full winter in the UK and then 2 weeks in switzerland [09:30] <rusbus> and somehow I feel colder in SA [09:33] <inetpro> rusbus: where are you based? [09:34] <inetpro> nice and warm here at the moment in Pretoria [09:40] <rusbus> Durban [09:41] <Kilos> wow [09:41] <rusbus> cold as hell here [09:41] <Kilos> dont come to the tvl [09:41] <Kilos> Maaz forecast durban south africa [09:41] <Maaz> Kilos: Saturday: Clear. High: 19° C., Saturday Night: Partly Cloudy. Low: 10° C., Sunday: Clear. High: 23° C., Sunday Night: Clear. Low: 12° C., Monday: Clear. High: 23° C., Monday Night: Clear. Low: 11° C., Tuesday: Clear. High: 23° C., Tuesday Night: Clear. Low: 11° C., Wednesday: Clear. High: 23° C., Wednesday Night: Partly Cloudy. Low: 12° C., [09:41] <Maaz> Thursday: Partly Cloudy. High: 22° C., Thursday Night: Chance of Rain. Low: 13° C., Friday: Pa… [09:42] <Kilos> ya a high of 19°c is winter in durbs [09:43] <inetpro> Kilos: I sent uyou a signed message, did you get it? [09:43] <inetpro> hmm... uyou? [09:44] <Kilos> haha how you sing with my key? [09:44] <Kilos> sign [09:44] <inetpro> you have a public key [09:44] <inetpro> that is part of the CoC process.. you uploaded your public key [09:45] <inetpro> only problem is, you have two of them [09:45] <Kilos> yeah ok, but now imagine a thread with many replies [09:45] <Kilos> the key will make lotsa work [09:45] <inetpro> uh... [09:46] <inetpro> perhpas I should rather start this conversation when I have more time [09:46] <inetpro> perhaps as well [09:46] <Kilos> lol [09:48] <inetpro> Kilos: did you install Enigmail with Thunderbird? [09:48] <Kilos> dont think so [09:48] <Kilos> what dfoes that do [09:48] <inetpro> ai! [09:48] <Kilos> does [09:49] <inetpro> https://www.enigmail.net/home/index.php [09:49] <Kilos> i see its not installed [09:50] <Kilos> oh my [09:50] <Kilos> your fault [09:51] <inetpro> read through that when you have time [09:51] <Kilos> ok [09:52] <inetpro> and for those with web interfaces for email check out https://www.mailvelope.com/ [09:52] <inetpro> found by superfly last night [09:52] <Kilos> and will everyone see my mails if they are encrypted [09:52] <Kilos> or be able to read them? [09:52] <inetpro> Kilos: no [09:53] <Kilos> ai! [09:53] <Kilos> so how does tara and ian then read my mails [09:53] <mazal> do ps3 - *check* , do pc - *check* , eat - *check* , warm bath - *in progress* [09:53] <mazal> lol , morning guys [09:53] <Kilos> lol mazal [09:53] <inetpro> hi mazal [09:54] <inetpro> pieter2627: did you see that ^^? [09:54] <inetpro> pieter2627: https://www.mailvelope.com/ [09:54] * pieter2627 will quickly have to read the last few history [09:55] <inetpro> pieter2627: I just started the conversation now [09:55] <inetpro> only at 11:43 [09:55] * Kilos waits for an answer [09:56] <Kilos> patiently [09:56] <inetpro> Kilos: ai! [09:56] <Kilos> rofl [09:56] <inetpro> forget about those for now... send them normal emails [09:56] <inetpro> you really don't have to sipgn and encrypt every email [09:56] <Kilos> oh you get to choose [09:57] <inetpro> sign* [09:57] <inetpro> by default you sign or encrypt none [09:57] <Kilos> so who would i send encrypted mails to? [09:58] <Kilos> i just mail lists and peeps here and family [09:58] <pieter2627> inetpro: interesting [09:58] <inetpro> encryption remains difficult for the average user [09:59] <inetpro> pieter2627: it's been around for ever [10:00] <inetpro> I mean enigmail [10:00] <pieter2627> ah ok [10:00] <inetpro> but mailvelope is rather new... I think [10:01] * pieter2627 has never been much of a privacy freak... um person :p [10:02] <inetpro> privacy... what privacy? [10:03] * inetpro just trying to complete the circle with signing the CoC so people can find more reason to sign it :-) [10:03] <pieter2627> to encrypt emails [10:03] <pieter2627> oh I see [10:05] <inetpro> where's stickyboy? I'm sure he would love email to be encrypted by default even [10:05] <inetpro> maybe one day we'll get there [10:07] <inetpro> there's definitely no point in trying to encrypt everything else in your life and not encrypt emails [10:08] <inetpro> anyway, that's it for me for the day... until maybe late this evening [10:08] <inetpro> enjoy the day! [10:08] <pieter2627> thanks for you too inetpro [10:18] <Kilos> have a good day inetpro [10:47] <Kilos> rusbus have you checked your blood pressure [10:47] <rusbus> nope [10:47] <rusbus> why? [10:48] <Kilos> normally low lets you get cold easy [10:49] <Kilos> if you bend forward then stand upright fast do you feel dizzy for a while? [10:49] <rusbus> will try after this game [11:07] <rusbus> ok so do I just lean forward like I'm touching the ground or what [11:07] <Kilos> yeah and stay down for a while [11:07] <rusbus> I did it like 10 times [11:07] <rusbus> ok [11:08] <Kilos> then come up fast [11:08] <Kilos> no dizzyness? [11:09] <rusbus> not really [11:09] <rusbus> when I did it fast 10 times [11:09] <rusbus> my head hurt after xD [11:09] <Kilos> lol [11:10] <rusbus> I must add that my bedroom is actually a garage [11:10] <rusbus> so it's not properly insulated [11:10] <Kilos> you supposed to do it once [11:10] <rusbus> and where the garage door was is now a sliding door [11:11] <rusbus> so thats a big heatsink [11:11] <Kilos> aha [11:11] <Kilos> if there was any feeling of dizzyness or light headed feeling it could be low bp [11:12] <Kilos> but at 19°c you shouldnt be getting cold really [11:12] <Kilos> unless you are old [11:16] <rusbus> ROFL [11:16] <rusbus> dude [11:16] <rusbus> durban is like [11:16] <rusbus> 25+ most of the time [11:16] <rusbus> 19 is so cold for me [11:16] <Kilos> yeah i lived there for 20 years [11:17] <rusbus> literally <24 is cold for me [11:17] <Kilos> me too [11:17] <Kilos> but i can blame age [11:26] <gremble> o/ [11:26] <Kilos> hi gremble [11:31] <rusbus> unless if you're about 70 then I don't think you CAN blame age :p [11:34] <Kilos> oh no still 6 years to go then [11:36] <gremble> Is a rusbus the opposite of a partybus? [11:36] <Kilos> lol [12:03] <rusbus> I hope not [12:03] <rusbus> Kilos where in durbs did you live? [12:04] <Kilos> toti and worked in the old post office workshops [12:04] <rusbus> rad [12:04] <rusbus> I live in toti [12:05] <Kilos> was a great place back then [12:05] <rusbus> it isn't anymore? [12:05] <Kilos> i had a house below elgro flats [12:05] <rusbus> I think toti gets a bad rap from durban people purely cause it's the unknown to them but toti is awesome [12:05] <Kilos> doonside area [12:05] <rusbus> cool, I'm not too far from there [12:05] <rusbus> brother in laws parents live there [12:06] <Kilos> you know the shopping centre when you come up from the beach [12:06] * rusbus is now listening to: - Maggot Brain [12:06] <Kilos> big one on the right [12:06] <rusbus> which beach? [12:06] <Kilos> warners [12:06] <rusbus> you talking about the new one? Galleria? [12:06] <rusbus> oh [12:06] <rusbus> baggies beach [12:06] <rusbus> that little tuck shop? [12:07] <rusbus> or the one by the road [12:07] <Kilos> no man big shopping centre [12:07] <rusbus> 404 shopping centre not found [12:07] <Kilos> lol [12:07] <Kilos> hmm... [12:07] <Kilos> seadoon road [12:08] <Kilos> from the beach you go under the freeway and straight up [12:08] <rusbus> ohhhhhhhhhhh [12:08] <rusbus> ROFL [12:08] <Kilos> there a big shooping centre [12:08] <rusbus> I was thinking further south [12:08] <rusbus> ya I know what you're talking about [12:08] <rusbus> seadoone mall [12:09] <Kilos> now in that road there is a wall on the left [12:09] <rusbus> https://www.google.co.za/maps/place/Seadoone+Rd,+Kingsburgh,+4126/@-30.06631,30.870132,3a,75y,11.07h,91.82t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1skhR8uPdPZGymGGq3niwrGw!2e0!4m2!3m1!1s0x1ef64d14b55dabbf:0x799c2147f2aa0e91!6m1!1e1?hl=en [12:09] <Kilos> ya thats it [12:09] <Kilos> the house on top of that wall was my moms [12:09] <Kilos> i forget names [12:10] <rusbus> thats like 100-200m from my brother in laws parents [12:10] <Kilos> shamiers? [12:10] <rusbus> I'm on the other side of hutchinson park [12:10] <rusbus> shaimers? [12:10] <rusbus> is that a road name? xD [12:10] <rusbus> I don't know those roads names [12:10] <Kilos> nono the peeps above mom were shamier [12:11] <rusbus> except camel(toes)sfoot road :p [12:11] <rusbus> oh [12:11] <rusbus> no they're binnekade [12:11] <Kilos> only remember then because they had a kiff daughter [12:11] <rusbus> but did you bang [12:11] <rusbus> (joking) [12:12] <rusbus> if you lived there did you go to toti high? [12:12] <Kilos> no my brother went to dhs [12:12] <rusbus> and you? [12:12] <Kilos> i did schooling in pta [12:13] <rusbus> ah [12:13] <Kilos> was a lifesaver at warners for some years [12:13] <Kilos> 40 years ago [12:13] <rusbus> warners still has the whole lifesavers stuff going on [12:13] <rusbus> with competitions and whatnot [12:13] <Kilos> yeah was great fun [12:13] <gremble> Did you save many lives? [12:14] <Kilos> nono only pretty pta chicks [12:14] <rusbus> rofl you only saved pretty pta chicks? [12:14] <rusbus> who was on miff toti chicks duty then? :p [12:14] <Kilos> if the lifeys keep control there arent many incidents [12:15] <Kilos> then i married a toti chick and had to give up lifesaving [12:15] <rusbus> damn toti chicks! [12:15] <Kilos> lol [12:15] <rusbus> https://images.playboy.com/playboy-digital/image/fetch/s--YLIq_bHQ--/q_80%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fimages-origin.playboy.com%2Fogz4nxetbde6%2F2AF3SInMq0ECqy6CEUWqOy%2F696d2ea2e4ed7c3e84a12ea782c8be8c%2Fhumor-bikini-gentlemen.jpg [12:16] <rusbus> it says playboy.com but it's a girl in a bikini [12:16] <rusbus> so SFW? [12:16] <rusbus> depends where you work I gueeess [12:16] <rusbus> guess* [12:16] <rusbus> man my keyboard is losing it [12:16] <rusbus> triple e's [12:16] <rusbus> my z doesn't work on a good day and then it'll quadruple z [12:16] <Kilos> lol mine getting tired too [12:17] <rusbus> I dunno why my z of all keys is giving me problems [12:17] <rusbus> do I REALLY make that many mistakes? [12:18] <Kilos> what do you do? working? [12:18] <rusbus> currently home automation [12:18] <rusbus> yourself? [12:18] <Kilos> kinda forced retirement [12:18] <rusbus> kinda? [12:19] <Kilos> ya bust head open and cant do physical stuff anymore [12:19] <rusbus> :( [12:19] <rusbus> what happened? [12:20] <Kilos> shaft on a windmill broke and bashe me 3 times [12:20] <rusbus> O________O [12:20] <rusbus> were you working? [12:20] <Kilos> split skull from above left eye to behind left ear and across [12:20] <Kilos> yaeh managing a stock farm [12:21] <rusbus> man you're lucky to be alive [12:21] <Kilos> i wasn when i got to hospital [12:21] <Kilos> bu they got good reboot tools [12:21] <rusbus> well [12:21] <rusbus> I guess they tried turning off and on again [12:21] <rusbus> works every time [12:21] <Kilos> lol [12:22] <rusbus> I make a joke but I'm glad you're not dead [12:22] <Kilos> me too i would have missed ubuntu [12:22] <rusbus> I'm such a child, I make jokes when stuff gets serious :p [12:22] <rusbus> LOL [12:22] <rusbus> I haven't even used ubuntu in forever [12:22] <rusbus> I'm only here cause south africans! [12:23] <Kilos> you use what again? [12:23] <rusbus> I dual boot windows and arch (currently on windows) and then my bouncer is on a debian server [12:23] <rusbus> yourself? [12:24] <Kilos> i have 2 pcs, one with kubuntu 14.04 and one with all sorts i use for repairing drives [12:25] <rusbus> kubuntu is the one with KDE? [12:25] <rusbus> (sorry for ignorance) [12:25] <Kilos> i do repairs for local kids with bust win lapptops [12:25] <Kilos> yes [12:25] <rusbus> back when canonical sent free cd's of ubuntu [12:25] <rusbus> I used to be on ubuntu [12:25] <rusbus> convert people to it, etc [12:26] <rusbus> back when my cap was 3gb [12:26] <Kilos> i aslo do data recoveries for my sons clients [12:26] <rusbus> and I couldn't download a distro xD [12:26] <rusbus> what does your son do? [12:26] <Kilos> there are guys in durbs that download and distributew [12:26] <Kilos> no w [12:27] <Kilos> he does that biometrics stuff i think its called [12:27] <Kilos> scanners for fingerprint and hand and eye [12:27] <rusbus> thats cool [12:27] <Kilos> and also timekeeping stuff [12:27] <rusbus> does them as in? makes them? sells them? [12:27] <Kilos> installs and maintains [12:28] <rusbus> cool [12:28] <rusbus> at work we got a guy who wants us to rig a finger print scanner to his front door [12:28] <Kilos> clock machines and that kinda stuff [12:28] <rusbus> and it's a massive door [12:29] <rusbus> (motorised door*) [12:29] <Kilos> oh so if you got right fingerprint the door will open? [12:30] <Kilos> or still open from someone inside operating it [12:31] <gremble> functional data structures turn weird very quickly [12:33] <superfly> gremble: my point exactly! :-P [12:35] <gremble> Haha the weird things from imperative data structures, they have automatically. Like permanence [12:36] <superfly> rusbus: just an FYI: this channel is governed by the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, and on top of that we like to keep things clean in here. You never know who is going to pop in here. [12:45] <rusbus> thanks superfly I'll google it [12:45] <rusbus> Kilos so only family members can open the door with their finger prints [12:45] <rusbus> can still be operated from inside [12:45] <rusbus> or remotely using our automation system [12:46] <superfly> rusbus: you're welcome. [12:48] <gremble> wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/TermsOfService [12:49] <gremble> I need to go buy canned air [12:49] <gremble> :x [13:00] <Kilos> canned air? [13:01] <Kilos> to do what with? [13:02] <squish102> Kilos | welcome to ubuntu-za < thanks [13:06] <gremble> Kilos: You use it to blow the dust and shit out of your computer and computer prepherihislajsh [13:06] <gremble> my fingers don't want to spell that last word [13:06] <Kilos> oh i use a compressor [13:06] <gremble> Peripherals [13:07] <gremble> a compressor is canned air that works with a large engine and electricity [13:07] <gremble> I don't have that [13:07] <gremble> :P [13:07] <Kilos> lol [13:08] <gremble> My mouse died and I don't have spare batteries or a wired mouse [13:08] <gremble> haha [13:08] <Kilos> ai! [13:50] <Kilos> hi Cantide [13:50] <Cantide> hello :p [13:57] <gremble> Any of you want to read funny shit on twitter, try @shit_hn_says [13:57] <gremble> :P [14:00] <gremble> "Furthermore I've always believed that Ubuntu was an NSA fron from its very inception" [14:02] <Kilos> whats that? [14:05] <gremble> It is people talking nonesense for our entertainment [14:06] <Kilos> nono the NSA thing [14:06] <gremble> "This misses the greater point, which is that syntax highlighting is a cancer and needs to be cut out" [14:06] <gremble> That is someone alledging that Ubuntu is NSA spyware [14:06] <Kilos> ah [14:10] <gremble> "This is surprisingly easy because C is largely a small subset of Common Lisp" That was beautiful [14:11] <gremble> Okay Ill stop now [14:11] <gremble> :P [14:11] <Kilos> hehe [14:11] <Cantide> those are gems :D [14:12] <gremble> "And assembler is much closer to the hardware, so would recommend learning x86 assembler as the first language, then C" [14:12] <gremble> Imagine trying to teach someone x86 as a programming language. They'll stop talking to you [14:13] <Cantide> as the first language :D [14:14] <gremble> "Students, today we are going to do flow control with x86. First, GOTO..." [14:14] <gremble> Nope [14:14] <gremble> I just had horrod flashbacks trying to learn NASM [14:20] <solidity> I sort of half agree with that. Not teaching them the whole of assembler, but as someone who has started from a very high level and worked my way down, I would teach people by starting at a low level and work the way up. [14:20] <solidity> Depending on what the purpose of the teaching is though. [14:21] <solidity> But I would not cover everything on the low level, just enough so that people have some hands on experience and understanding, then use that as a basis to move up to a higher level. Repeat up till desired level. [14:22] <solidity> You don't start learning biochemistry without first learning chemistry. [14:24] <Cantide> true that [14:24] <Cantide> but it might be a bit intimidating for a beginner [14:25] <solidity> Then they shouldn't be programmers. [14:25] <solidity> Just like if you are afraid of fires you shouldn't be a fireman. [14:25] <Cantide> :p [14:26] <gremble> No, but throwing fireman recruits into a fire to teach them how it is in there is scaring them away from it. You start with smaller bits and teach them that strange things like that isnt scary [14:27] <gremble> Your biochem argument also doesn't work really well in this case because biochem is a speciality of chemestry where webdevelopment is not a speciality of compiler construction or low level programming [14:28] <gremble> I would say start by teaching the process of programming using a pseudo language instead of a language with specific grammar and constructs. If you can think about programming, then learning a language is not that difficult [14:30] <solidity> Well, I don't think programming is something you really do in isolation, because are always working with the real world, and in the real world, you have to work with the systems available to you, and you have to know how the entire stack works in order to find the right solution, which sometimes doesn't even involve programming. [14:31] <gremble> If I want to program a javascript app I only need to know how V8 works, I don't have to know how x86 works [14:32] <gremble> If I want to code in C and optimise certain aspects of my code, then sure, x86 should be helpful (if that is what I am coding on) [14:32] <gremble> Granted, if you want to immerse yourself in the computing industry and be more than just a front end developer, you probably need to know more than just javascript [14:33] <solidity> I'm talking about software engineering as a discipline that is not bound to any specific domain or language. [14:33] <gremble> But that is much, much broader than just learning to program. [14:34] <gremble> I agree with your sentiment there [14:34] <gremble> If you want to call yourself a software engineer, you will need to know many other things [14:38] <solidity> I see your point. [14:42] <gremble> Seeing those poor actuarial science students with me, absolutely terrified with having to learn C++, I would not want to burden them with x86 even though they need to be able to think about how to program [14:42] <solidity> Who decided to teach them C++ [14:42] <solidity> ? [14:43] <solidity> Poor sods. [14:44] <solidity> But I was also talking about programming from a more compsci perspective. [14:45] <solidity> But this is the difference between a car mechanic vs a car driver. [14:45] <solidity> c++ is a mechanic's language [14:46] <solidity> python is much better suited to someone will only spend a small part of their average day programming. [14:46] <solidity> (I'm guessing, I don't actually know how actuaries go about work) [14:47] <solidity> So for people like that I agree, but they aren't programmers, they just know about it. [14:47] <solidity> Just like I'm not a car mechanic because I know a little bit about how an engine works. [14:48] <solidity> they just know how to do it a bit* [14:48] <solidity> But that is also in a very confined scope with only one problem domain, and they probably don't see programming as anything other than a tool they have to use to get the job done. [14:49] <solidity> Unlike us poor fools that seem to like it for its own sake. [14:50] <gremble> That is the thing though. Programming is a thing in itself. If you understand the way to think 'programatically' (horrible word, don't know what would fit better), the language doesn't matter that much. The idea is to first get to that place where you can think programatically. [14:51] <gremble> Having that method of thinking makes reasoning about something low levelled like assembly much easier [14:51] <gremble> I agree that the actuaries need to learn python instead of C++. [14:52] <solidity> Well, if you take a cooking recipe, that is a program in essense. [14:52] <solidity> open source too :P [14:53] <gremble> What do you do solidity? [14:53] <solidity> I am currently a NEET [14:53] <solidity> I have some background as a web developer though. [14:53] <gremble> What is a neet? [14:53] <Kilos> lol [14:53] <solidity> Both front-end and back-end. [14:54] <gremble> That is quite...neat [14:54] <gremble> ;P [14:54] <solidity> Not currently Employed, in Education or Training. [14:54] <gremble> Ah [14:56] <solidity> I'm transitioning careers into something to do with food and nutrition though. [14:56] <gremble> Oh, that sounds interesting [14:56] <solidity> Oh it is :) [14:57] <solidity> So until I can start studying next year I'm just doing odd things here and there to keep myself busy. [14:57] <gremble> I did a preemptive career transition, from sound/lighting technician to mathematician [14:57] <gremble> Well, I am still attempting said transition :P [14:58] <solidity> Interesting. [14:59] <solidity> I wish I had the time to also study more mathematics. [15:00] <gremble> Same [15:00] <solidity> Before I decided on food and nutrition I was considering mathematics :P [15:01] <solidity> and computer science [15:01] <solidity> (and biochemistry) [15:01] <solidity> :P [15:01] <rusbus> now it makes sense why you said you were in #nutrition xD [15:01] <gremble> I did a year of comp sci, and it is my first love. However, I don't like the software engineering bit around it [15:01] <rusbus> solidity gief roids [15:02] <solidity> rusbus, I can't give you roids but the closest thing I can recommend is milk. [15:02] <rusbus> aweh time to get swole [15:03] <solidity> Just remember: anabolic compounds also promote cancer growth. [15:03] <rusbus> time to get riddled! [15:03] <solidity> So you can get swole while you get swole. [15:04] <solidity> gremble: why didn't you like software engineering? [15:09] <gremble> solidity: Programming is much more interesting than just knowing how to loosely couple your modules or parsing JSON. CompSci is for all practical reasons a math field on its own, but at UP they don't touch the math [15:09] <gremble> Just AI and software architecture/engineering [15:11] <solidity> I guess that depends on how you define what you want to do. [15:12] * superfly is apparently doing his Python wrong [15:13] <squish102> try grab with both hands [15:13] <solidity> superfly, I recommend you drop everything you do and learn to make your own custom microchips [15:14] <superfly> solidity: not quite, but we're making our own hardware [15:14] <superfly> Is compiling a kernel for a custom ARM device enough for you? [15:14] <MaNI> compsci course that doesn't touch discrete math and logic? blasphemy [15:15] <solidity> No. In fact, you should just get an abacus and enough food and water for a 3 days. [15:15] <solidity> :D [15:15] <superfly> doh! So being doing it all wrong all of these years [15:15] <Kilos> lol [15:16] <Kilos> patience with the youngsters [15:16] <solidity> Yes, if you can't finish your computation before your supplies run out you need to optimize your algorithms. [15:16] <solidity> bbiab [15:18] <gremble> MaNI: That is the only math that it touches, but only a little bit [15:19] <gremble> Why are you doing your python wrong superfly > [15:20] <gremble> Have you tried doing it in Haskell [15:20] <gremble> :PPPPP [15:21] <superfly> gremble: according to solidity, Python is much better suited to someone will only spend a small part of their average day programming, and I've been doing Python full time for work and for open source for 6 - 8 years. [15:22] <superfly> (actually, the open source part for longer, about 10 years) [15:23] <gremble> I think he meant the converse, that someone who only spend a small part of their average day programming should use python. [15:25] <superfly> Ah, I didn't read it that way. [15:27] <gremble> One day I will sit my ass down and learn python. Its one of those languages where I have the books in the "bookshelf" ready to learn, but something more interesting pops up [15:27] <gremble> Or more pressing [15:27] <gremble> Damn priorities [15:27] <gremble> :P [15:35] <gremble> In an imperative language, you have no guarantee that a simple function that should just crunch some numbers won't burn down your house, kidnap your dog and scratch your car with a potato while crunching those numbers. [15:35] <gremble> from learnyouahaskell.com/input-and-output [15:35] <gremble> :P [16:50] <solidity> haha [16:52] <solidity> I didn't mean it in the way that python should only be used by people who only program a little bit. [16:53] <solidity> Just that python is one of the better languages for that situation. It is still a good language for general programming. [16:53] <solidity> But I'm no expert. [17:20] <Kilos> hi nlsthzn hows you and fam? [17:21] <Kilos> hi Cryterion , you coc good too now? [17:28] <Cryterion> hi, Kilos, got to the email point last night and haven't had much chance to continue further yet [17:28] <Kilos> ah [17:30] <Kilos> lol the pro says its easy [17:31] <Cryterion> I'll prob look into more later on this evening again [17:32] <Kilos> lol good luck [17:32] <Cryterion> movie time for now, :) [17:33] <stickyboy> Nairobu GNU/Linux Users Group meeting was good. [17:33] <Kilos> oh they still alive stickyboy [17:33] <stickyboy> The company who I accused of violating the GPL showed up. :P [17:33] <Kilos> must have had food , otherwise you wouldnt say it was good [17:33] <Kilos> ah thats good [17:34] <stickyboy> They are going to donate one product to the group so we can hack it and blog about it. [17:35] <stickyboy> Win win [17:35] <Kilos> lol [17:35] <Kilos> thats called bribery and corruption [17:36] <Cryterion> lol [17:40] <stickyboy> I don't know why I even try with you, Kilos. ;) [17:40] <Kilos> because you like me [17:41] <Kilos> im sure they gave you a bucket of feta as well [17:41] <stickyboy> I guess so. :) [17:41] <stickyboy> If I ever come to South Africa I'm gonna come sleep on the couch on your sister's small holding though. [17:41] <Kilos> lol [17:42] <Kilos> no feta here we eat meat [17:42] <stickyboy> I've been to Kimberley and Bloemfontain a few times. I hope that's not the best you have to offer. :P [17:42] <Kilos> no man go to durban or capetown [17:43] <stickyboy> Is Durban where all the Indian food is? [17:43] <Kilos> yes [17:43] <Kilos> best curry in the country [17:44] <Kilos> even vegetable curry [17:44] <Kilos> do you eat curry? [17:44] <stickyboy> w00t [17:44] <stickyboy> I am *into* curry, bru [17:44] <stickyboy> Like nobody's business. [17:45] <Kilos> do you guys have shops that sell za products [17:45] <Kilos> look for golddish vegetable curry [17:45] <Kilos> very lekker [17:45] <Kilos> i eat it out of the can even [17:45] <stickyboy> Lots of crap ZA product here. [17:46] <rusbus> vegetable curry? [17:46] <stickyboy> (jk they are all high quality, more than Kenyan) [17:46] <rusbus> in cans? [17:46] <stickyboy> hehehhe [17:46] <Kilos> man look for that then tell me its crap [17:46] <stickyboy> lol [17:46] <stickyboy> Kilos: hehe I'll look. [17:46] <stickyboy> I found Zoo Biscuits recently. [17:46] <Kilos> best veggie curry ive tasted [17:46] <stickyboy> My SA ex-girlfriend used to love those. [17:47] <Kilos> rusbus look in checkers or other supermarkets [17:47] <Kilos> there are a few different brands but golddish is by far the best [17:48] <rusbus> will try remember [17:48] <gremble> Zoo biscuits are good, just very expensive [17:48] <gremble> :P [17:48] <gremble> This text book has "Spank the monkey" as an example string in a todo program. [17:49] <rusbus> when monkies are naughty they need to be spanked [17:49] <rusbus> what is the book? [17:49] <gremble> learnyouahaskell [17:50] <solidity> for great good [17:51] <rusbus> gremble please try sell me haskell in one sentence [17:51] <rusbus> and then again in no less than 3000 words. [17:51] <Kilos> lol [17:52] <Kilos> http://learnyouahaskell.com/ [17:52] <rusbus> I'm there [17:52] <rusbus> but I want someone to tell me why it's good :p [17:52] <rusbus> and why I'd want to learn it [17:52] <rusbus> (should I want to learn it?) [17:52] <Kilos> only gremble knows [17:53] <Kilos> the fly prefers to be able to read his code [17:53] <gremble> Because up until now you've only programmed with an imperative paradigm and it is interesting to be able to think in another way of programming [17:54] <gremble> There is no reason why you should want to learn it any more than learning OO originally [17:54] <gremble> Functional programs are "harder" to read because imperative programming is the "standard" way of programming taught [17:54] <gremble> That is why some people also struggle with OO programming [17:54] <solidity> 4 sentences so far~ [17:54] <gremble> I have many sentences [17:55] <Kilos> gremble you should just have said because you cant [17:55] <gremble> cant what? [17:55] <Kilos> then its a challenge and you saved words [17:56] <solidity> That actually works btw. [17:56] <Kilos> cant do haskel man [17:56] <solidity> Told someone yesterday that only wizards can answer his question. So he googled it. [17:57] <gremble> I am not going to give him a disengenous answer only because he asked for one. May as well put some effort into it [17:57] <rusbus> so far my only reasoning for considering haskell is the functional programming part [17:57] <gremble> I like the idea of lazy evaluation, but I have not tried a strict language yet [17:57] <gremble> That is my next endeavour [17:58] <gremble> StandardML or Lisp [18:06] <solidity> Speaking of which, I need to get back to learning Haskell. [18:06] <Kilos> lol [18:07] <gremble> I should get back to learning calculus, but this is much more fun [18:09] <Kilos> inetpro ping [18:15] <solidity> gremble: where in LYAH are you now? [18:15] <gremble> input and output [18:15] <gremble> Finishing up with random [18:17] <solidity> This will be the third time I start reading this book. [18:17] <gremble> Why do you keep restarting? [18:17] <solidity> I always start and then stuff happens and I forget about it. [18:17] <gremble> :p [18:17] <solidity> So I need to refresh my memory. [18:17] <gremble> I've been slow with it as wekk [18:17] <gremble> well* [18:17] <gremble> I've done some of Real World Haskell by O'Reilly too [18:18] <solidity> But moving to new house is done, not going to sukkel with gentoo as my main OS done, so I can make time to work through it in peace now. [18:18] <gremble> And I have a little irc bot that has no functionality as well. But that I built from a tutorial [18:18] <gremble> Isn't Gentoo a perpetual struggle though? [18:19] <solidity> <solidity> I think we should write a irc service called NoobServ that keeps a database of users and messages new users with a brief overview of how IRC works. [18:19] <solidity> There is an idea for your bot. [18:19] <solidity> gremble, probably [18:20] <solidity> But my interest in linux is more on the "how does this work" than "I want to use this". [18:20] <solidity> I like the idea behind the control it gives you as well. [18:20] <gremble> As long as you are having fun :P [18:21] <solidity> Indeed, I like learning about the nitty gritty, slow as that may be. [18:22] <gremble> Well, we can work through it together. You are welcome to ask me if you are stuck :P I have a deep seated interest in this as I am academically interested in lambda calculus and category theory [18:22] <gremble> So I spend quite a lot of effort on understanding how this magical thing works [18:23] <solidity> Will do, thanks. [18:28] <Kilos> ai! this place is getting worse and worse [18:28] <gremble> Why? [18:29] <Kilos> im being swamped by brains [18:29] <gremble> Is that bad? [18:29] <Kilos> and they all expect me to have one as well [18:29] <Kilos> thats the bad part [18:29] <Kilos> you not too bad [18:29] <Kilos> and pro and fly understand as well [18:31] <Kilos> but i like being surrounded by clever peeps [18:31] <Kilos> maybe one day some will rub off on me [18:32] <gremble> we can only hope [18:32] <gremble> :P [18:32] <Kilos> rofl [18:33] <Kilos> come on man ive learned lots, i can do apt-get update && apt-get upgrade [18:33] <Kilos> thats plenty [18:34] <gremble> Haha you don't have to defend yourself against me :P I know that you are capable [18:34] <gremble> You've helped more people here than I have [18:34] <gremble> I just talk smack all day [18:34] <Kilos> with basics [18:35] <Kilos> blame the pro [18:35] <Kilos> he pushes stuff onto me [18:35] <gremble> That's good [18:35] <Kilos> like this key thing now in my mail [18:36] <gremble> Everyone needs a little push [18:36] <Kilos> nono i need to rest [18:38] <rusbus> solidity gremble Kilos and whoever was talking about haskell earlier [18:38] <rusbus> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2573135/python-progression-path-from-apprentice-to-guru [18:38] <rusbus> point 7 in top response [18:39] <Kilos> not me [18:40] <rusbus> :c [18:40] <Kilos> i tried python [18:40] <Kilos> got stuck on vim [18:40] <rusbus> python is great but I linked that cause of the haskell in the answer [18:40] <rusbus> Kilos don't use vim then :p [18:40] <Kilos> i can drag/drop pics well but [18:40] <Kilos> hehe [18:40] <rusbus> https://atom.io/ [18:40] <Kilos> nono enough in head [18:40] <rusbus> I love atom [18:41] <Kilos> tried html and some other stuffs too [18:41] <Kilos> im too old to learn more now [18:43] <solidity> Nah, I only started learning programming at the age of 24, which is way older than most people. [18:43] <solidity> You just have to learn smart. [18:43] <Kilos> lol [18:43] <gremble> Atom is nice [18:43] <Kilos> my son is 40 [18:43] <solidity> hah [18:44] <solidity> I firmly believe no one is too old to learn. [18:44] <Kilos> ya if they have everything sill in place [18:44] <Kilos> still [18:44] <gremble> rusbus: I think 11 is the most important step there [18:44] <solidity> Neurological disorders aside. [18:44] <Kilos> i lost some stuff from head [18:46] <solidity> But, forcing yourself to learn something you won't really be using might be why it can be hard to learn it. [18:46] <Kilos> i tried bzr and um [18:46] <Kilos> the site tihing [18:47] <Kilos> nikola [18:47] <solidity> I always ask myself what I want to use what I'm learning for. Like vim for example, you don't need to bother with that, the reasons people recommend it probably doesn't apply to you. [18:47] <gremble> Don't learn vim [18:47] <Kilos> im happy as i am i got friends on irc [18:48] <gremble> Once you use it, you can't use anything else [18:48] <gremble> :< [18:48] <solidity> hehe [18:48] <gremble> After writing something in a word processor I have to find all the instances of :w and remove them [18:48] <solidity> rofl [18:49] <gremble> usually in pairs of :w:i or :w:a [18:49] <solidity> I never got into vim much aside from knowing the basics. [18:49] <gremble> I think I still only know the basics [18:49] <solidity> It is one of those powerful but archaic and quirky tools. [18:49] <gremble> I don't use any plugins [18:50] <gremble> I am excited for neovim [18:50] <rusbus> [20:43:27] <Kilos> my son is 40 [18:50] <rusbus> [20:43:32] <solidity> hah [18:50] <rusbus> rofl ^ [18:50] <rusbus> he didn't expect that xD [18:50] <solidity> Nope. [18:50] <Kilos> lol [18:52] <rusbus> I used to use vim [18:52] <rusbus> literally just insert [18:52] <rusbus> make an edit [18:52] <rusbus> then save and quit xD [18:52] <solidity> That is the extent of my usage as well :P [18:52] <Kilos> i like using nano to edit with [18:52] <rusbus> A friend started a diploma that I was doing [18:52] <rusbus> but I was already 2 years in [18:52] <rusbus> and he needed help with C++ [18:53] <rusbus> which I literally hadn't touched in forever [18:53] <rusbus> I couldn't get my stupid netbeans to work [18:53] <rusbus> well, HIS [18:53] <rusbus> on both mac and windows [18:53] <rusbus> so I made a debian VM and learnt emacs [18:53] <rusbus> and helped him using that [18:53] <rusbus> emacs is cool but... [18:53] <rusbus> ya [18:53] <rusbus> may as well just use nano :p [18:54] <solidity> also like vim, archaic and quicky [18:54] <solidity> quirky* [18:54] <Kilos> helping others is good [18:54] <rusbus> solidity emacs is so much more [18:54] <rusbus> but I don't see the REASON WHY [18:54] <rusbus> like [18:54] <rusbus> ok let me use emacs to check my email [18:54] <rusbus> read my favorite rss feed [18:54] <rusbus> etc [18:54] <rusbus> WHY [18:54] <rusbus> I JUST WANT TO EDIT TEXT FILES [18:54] <solidity> Back then people only had command lines and spent most of their time in text editors. [18:54] <Kilos> because you can [18:55] <solidity> Today we have GUIs and experience. [18:55] <Kilos> ]learn as much as you can while you can [18:55] <rusbus> I still haven't really programmed something awesome :( [18:55] <rusbus> like properly awesome [18:55] <solidity> It's like car modding I guess, most of it is done for no practical reason aside from they like to mess around with cars. [18:55] <gremble> I think few people can say that they have [18:55] <solidity> I programmed a quine! [18:55] <Kilos> car modding is fun [18:55] <solidity> Which is about the most awesome thing I can think of. [18:56] <gremble> a quine? [18:56] <solidity> A program that outputs it's own source code. [18:56] <solidity> its* [18:56] <gremble> Oh, that is very neat [18:57] <gremble> Comfort Eagle - CAKE [18:57] <gremble> I like this band [18:57] <solidity> My other programming endeavors weren't as impressive, even if they were much bigger projects. [18:57] * solidity cries a little. [18:57] <gremble> :p [18:58] <Kilos> solidity get into dev work [18:58] <solidity> Nah, I got out of dev work. [18:58] <Kilos> of join the ubuntu bug squad [18:58] <solidity> I don't want to write code for someone else. [18:58] <solidity> I have yet to meet devs that aren't overworked or stress at least half of the time. [18:58] <Kilos> we not someone else man we are ubuntu [18:59] <gremble> He is gentoo [18:59] <gremble> :P [18:59] <solidity> I'm learning haskell to write programs of my own interest. [18:59] <Kilos> thats where all the stress comes from [18:59] <gremble> I feel like dev companies tend to treat developers like intelligence factory workers :x [18:59] <gremble> That is why I did not go into it [19:00] <gremble> I could be wrong [19:00] <gremble> But I didn't want to take that chance [19:00] <solidity> In most cases yes. [19:00] <Kilos> nono thats life [19:00] <Kilos> use whoever you can and get as much as you can and pay less than you need to [19:00] <rusbus> and charge as much as you can [19:00] <Kilos> yes [19:00] <rusbus> worst thing about my job [19:00] <rusbus> our shit is so stupidly expensive [19:00] <gremble> I am not playing that game. [19:00] <rusbus> only the elite can afford it [19:01] <rusbus> I haven't got a client who's house costs less than ~R10mil [19:01] <Kilos> sjoe [19:01] <rusbus> it's quite disgusting the amount of money they have [19:01] <rusbus> it literally made me phyiscally ill a bit [19:01] <rusbus> when I started [19:02] <Kilos> wait till money crashes [19:02] <Kilos> then see who hurts the worst [19:02] <gremble> Haha >rusbus vomits in the lounge< "Sorry, I am allergic to your bank balance" [19:02] <rusbus> I'm driving around with a guy who has been at the same company for 10 years, he is _THE_ foundation of the company, he makes about R6000 a month and he fixes systems for people who wipe their arses with R100 notes [19:02] <solidity> http://goo.gl/TB5SgZ [19:02] <rusbus> lol gremble [19:02] <gremble> You have a shit company rusbus :x [19:03] <gremble> work for [19:03] <gremble> not have [19:03] <gremble> haha [19:03] <rusbus> aye [19:03] <rusbus> I wanna do a course [19:03] <rusbus> then apply for a job at Derivco [19:04] <solidity> I worked under two bosses that had no clue how to manage software projects. From what I see most managers don't. And it is the developers that have to pick up the slack and work overtime. [19:04] <rusbus> managers in general (no offence to anyone here) have no clue what they're doing [19:05] <solidity> I wouldn't know, I have only worked under 2 and they both sucked. [19:05] <gremble> No one does >: But when I don't know how to do something, I can usually search for a solution [19:05] <gremble> Working as a manager you cannot always [19:05] <rusbus> I'm constantly going to building sites to manage their progress, if I don't then all our wall boxes, conduit, etc would be utter trash and we wouldn't be able to install our systems. [19:05] <solidity> Small sample size. But I do know of one or two acquantances that have worked under more competent management, namely, they were developers themselves. [19:06] <rusbus> solidity incase you didn't know I'm Russ from shadowfire :p [19:06] <rusbus> o/ [19:06] <solidity> I know. [19:06] <rusbus> lel [19:06] <rusbus> just checking [19:06] <solidity> Rus the bus for us. [19:07] <gremble> The Rus Bus [19:07] <rusbus> like 10+ years ago my nick was Blade (long story) and I was quite well known (I guess) in the local scene mostly because it was very small and then one day I changed to Russ (because someone was using my nick in games) and half the people didn't realise Blade == Russ xD [19:07] <solidity> On shadowfire? [19:08] <gremble> I have been gremble my entire life and I get so pissed off if people use my nick in games >.> [19:08] <rusbus> talking about shadowfire and games like cs 1.6 [19:08] <rusbus> ya [19:08] <solidity> I have gone through quite a few nicknames. [19:08] <rusbus> liquidity [19:08] <gremble> Some tit used it for his github account and only started being active on it when I wanted to snag it [19:08] <rusbus> vapouridity [19:08] <rusbus> settled on solidity [19:08] <solidity> haha [19:08] <solidity> plasmidity [19:09] <rusbus> next up :D [19:09] <rusbus> when you're done you can become sublimity [19:09] <gremble> superconductitidy [19:09] <rusbus> I want a super simple nick [19:09] <rusbus> something hex maybe [19:09] <rusbus> like [19:09] <rusbus> 0x32 [19:09] <rusbus> :D [19:10] <rusbus> or how about [19:10] <rusbus> b10110101 [19:10] <rusbus> 0b10110101* [19:10] <Kilos> Maaz nickometer 0x32 [19:10] <Maaz> Kilos: 0x32 is 56.0% lame [19:10] <rusbus> :( [19:10] <gremble> Why 50 rusbus? [19:11] <rusbus> Maaz nickometer Kilos [19:11] <Maaz> rusbus: Kilos is 0.0% lame [19:11] <rusbus> YOH [19:11] <Kilos> haha [19:11] <rusbus> Maaz nickometer rusbus [19:11] <Maaz> rusbus: rusbus is 0.0% lame [19:11] <rusbus> oh [19:11] <rusbus> lame [19:11] <rusbus> it checks if we're in here [19:11] <Kilos> no [19:11] <rusbus> Maaz nickometer solidity [19:11] <Maaz> rusbus: solidity is 0.0% lame [19:11] <Kilos> it doesnt like funny characters [19:11] <rusbus> I'm sure it does [19:11] <gremble> It checks for special characters [19:11] <rusbus> who's bot is this? [19:11] <Kilos> ours [19:11] <rusbus> Maaz nickometer 1337k1d5 [19:11] <Maaz> rusbus: 1337k1d5 is 99.7% lame [19:11] <rusbus> who wrote it [19:11] <rusbus> is what I meant [19:11] <Kilos> written in python by our guys [19:12] <solidity> Maaz nickometer 1 [19:12] <Maaz> solidity: 1 is 21.5% lame [19:12] <solidity> Maaz nickometer !#$%^ [19:12] <gremble> rusbus: it is an ibid bot [19:12] <Maaz> solidity: !#$%^ is 99.93% lame [19:12] <rusbus> oh, rad [19:12] * rusbus tips hat to cocooncrash [19:12] <rusbus> Maaz botsnack [19:12] <Maaz> YAY someone cares about me too! [19:13] <rusbus> I wrote an ibid plugin [19:13] <rusbus> what a learning curve that was [19:13] <rusbus> :D [19:13] <rusbus> I guess it wasn't TOO bad but the docs aren't complete [19:14] <gremble> It is not really active :P Perhaps you can make it a project to get it up to date ;P [19:14] <Kilos> you can get help in atrum on #ibid [19:14] <rusbus> ibid is way above my head [19:14] <rusbus> ya Kilos [19:14] <rusbus> I did [19:14] <rusbus> but help is sparse [19:14] <rusbus> I know they're busy guys [19:14] <Kilos> and a year ago you could get help here [19:15] <Kilos> then that place stole our guys [19:15] <rusbus> ibid taught me a decent amount about twisted [19:15] <Kilos> silicon valley usa [19:15] <rusbus> which I never knew b efore [19:15] <rusbus> before* [19:15] <rusbus> and I learnt how twisted actually pioneered a lot of asynchronous stuff [19:15] <rusbus> python 3.0's tulip lib was based on it [19:16] <rusbus> solidity teach me how to quine please :D [19:17] <rusbus> does it actually read it's own guts and spill them [19:17] <rusbus> or do you hard code it's guts to be spilled? :? [19:18] <solidity> No, it just needs to output it's source code. [19:18] <solidity> I suppose you could write a script that reads its own source file and outputs that. [19:18] <rusbus> how did you do yours? [19:18] <gremble> That is probably cheating :P [19:18] <rusbus> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/54/QuineProgram.png [19:18] <rusbus> wikipedia cheats [19:19] <solidity> uhm [19:19] <solidity> I wrote it in 2008. [19:19] <rusbus> hop to it bro :D [19:19] <gremble> That is what she said [19:19] <solidity> hah [19:20] <solidity> hrm [19:20] <solidity> trying to think of how to explain now [19:20] <rusbus> does it just read it's own file? [19:20] <solidity> I got the inspiration after reading a book on genetics. [19:21] <solidity> Mine didn't. [19:21] <rusbus> or can it not read it while running? [19:21] <gremble> It can read it while running [19:21] <rusbus> so you programmed a sperm :D [19:21] <solidity> I basically abstracted away various aspects of the source code as string variables, and the composited those as a kind of genetic string that reconstructed everything again. [19:22] <rusbus> link it bro [19:22] <rusbus> xD [19:22] <solidity> I don't have it anymore. [19:22] <rusbus> boo [19:22] <solidity> I suppose I can try and rewrite it. [19:22] <gremble> Do it in Haskell [19:22] <rusbus> rewrite :D [19:22] <inetpro> Kilos: pong [19:22] <rusbus> DO IT IN HASKELL! [19:22] <Kilos> ohi inetpro [19:22] <inetpro> goood mornings everyone [19:22] <solidity> I'll just do it in python. [19:22] <gremble> Hey inetpro [19:22] <rusbus> what was the response time on that ping? [19:22] <solidity> heya [19:24] * rusbus is now listening to: perparadise - Flume Remix [19:24] <rusbus> lol this plugin [19:24] <rusbus> is so derpy [19:28] <rusbus> solidity [19:28] <rusbus> I finished my quine [19:28] <rusbus> time to battle to the death [19:28] <solidity> I just finished downloading python, [19:28] <solidity> :P [19:28] <rusbus> lol [19:28] <rusbus> I took long cause my atom was borked [19:28] <gremble> Not having a mouse is kind of a pain in the ass [19:29] <rusbus> trying to update a package [19:29] <rusbus> gremble you should get that seen to [19:29] <rusbus> your mouse should be on the table and not up your ass [19:29] <inetpro> yikes! [19:29] <inetpro> you guys talked too much while I was away [19:30] <solidity> And now I have to remember python syntax. [19:30] <rusbus> inetpro [19:30] <rusbus> we're on Quines [19:30] <rusbus> get on board or get run over! [19:30] <inetpro> no ways I can read all that [19:30] <gremble> inetpro: There is nothing interesting. Don't worry [19:30] <rusbus> inetpro we just spoke about haskell [19:30] <inetpro> :-) [19:30] <rusbus> and then learning languages in general [19:30] <rusbus> programming* [19:30] <rusbus> and now we're onto quines [19:31] <rusbus> if you're a programmer feel free to post a quine in your favorite language [19:32] <rusbus> learn you haskell is so expensive [19:32] <rusbus> O_O [19:32] <rusbus> $45 [19:32] * inetpro googles for quines [19:33] <rusbus> inetpro it's a program that prints out it's own sourcecode [19:33] <inetpro> nevre heard of that in my life [19:33] <gremble> You can read it for free on the internet [19:33] <rusbus> gremble I prefer to read hard copy stuff [19:33] <rusbus> or I'd just pirate everything :p [19:33] <inetpro> ai! [19:37] <gremble> Well you can pay up or just read it at learnyouahaskell.com/chapters [19:37] <gremble> If you decide to pay up, buy a copy for me too [19:37] <gremble> :P [19:38] <rusbus> HEH [19:38] <rusbus> not likely :p [19:38] <rusbus> my mother is in the UK atm [19:38] <rusbus> and with SA postal being what it is [19:38] <rusbus> I'm getting her to buy books for me [19:38] <rusbus> :p [19:38] <rusbus> off amazon she can have it in 2 days [19:38] <rusbus> using regular postal [19:38] <rusbus> :D [19:39] <gremble> I need to get an Rpi so I can have a faster smart tv [19:39] <gremble> >.> [19:39] <rusbus> how is an rpi gonna make your smart tv faster?> [19:39] <gremble> It will be the smart [19:39] <gremble> and the tv can be dumb [19:39] <rusbus> oh [19:39] <rusbus> thats what I have [19:39] <rusbus> it's a slow smart [19:40] <rusbus> oh maybe RPi2 is fast [19:40] <gremble> The tv is even slower [19:40] <rusbus> don't go for the first model [19:40] <gremble> The newest model is quite cheap already [19:41] <rusbus> not what I'd call cheap but ok :p [19:41] <rusbus> when I got my RPi [19:41] <rusbus> I needed to buy the power source [19:41] <rusbus> the SD card [19:41] <rusbus> etc [19:41] <rusbus> it came to over R1k! [19:41] <gremble> That is very expensive [19:41] <gremble> :P [19:41] <rusbus> then I bought a Udoo [19:41] <rusbus> which is 4x the power [19:41] <rusbus> + a built in arduino mega [19:41] <rusbus> and that cost me R1500 [19:41] <rusbus> with the power source included [19:42] <rusbus> two SD cards each with it's own OS [19:42] <rusbus> etc [19:42] <rusbus> BARGAIN. [19:42] <gremble> :P [19:43] * rusbus is waiting on solidity [19:43] <gremble> I am watching the lego movie now :P [19:43] <rusbus> I still haven't seen it :( [19:43] <solidity> You will have to wait a while. [19:43] <rusbus> why? [19:44] <solidity> Because I'm trying to remember what I did. [19:44] <rusbus> lol [19:44] <rusbus> I wanna show you mine but I don't want you to be like "there it is" and not do yours :p [19:44] <solidity> How many lines is yours? [19:44] <rusbus> I don't want to say [19:44] <gremble> :P [19:44] <rusbus> xD [19:45] <solidity> haha [19:45] <rusbus> how many should it be? [19:45] <rusbus> how many are you at atm? [19:45] <gremble> All of them [19:45] <rusbus> I'm racking my brain trying to make it shorter [19:45] <rusbus> but I can't [19:45] <rusbus> (yet) [19:45] <solidity> Doesn't matter, if I recall mine was 20 something lines, so if yours is shorted it could be a differently written one. [19:45] <rusbus> gremble do a haskell quine plx thx :p [19:45] <solidity> My brother showed my a quine that was 3 or 4 lines. [19:45] <rusbus> well I'm sure that mine is written differently then [19:45] <solidity> me* [19:46] <solidity> Mine isn't exactly the elegant solution. [19:46] <gremble> This makes me want to build lego [19:46] <gremble> :( [19:46] <rusbus> ok so I googled [19:46] <rusbus> and found this [19:47] <rusbus> "Technically, the shortest Python quine is the empty file." [19:47] <rusbus> doh [19:47] <solidity> har [19:47] <rusbus> python quine.py outputs nothing [19:47] <rusbus> :D? [19:48] <rusbus> ok I found the shortest python quine [19:48] <rusbus> it's this: [19:48] <rusbus> _='_=%r;print _%%_';print _%_\n [19:48] <rusbus> mine errors on the \n [19:48] <rusbus> but apparently it should be there [19:49] <rusbus> ohhhhhhh this one is good [19:49] <rusbus> print open(__file__).read() [19:49] <rusbus> 27 chars long [19:51] <solidity> I have not written code this ugly in a long time. [19:51] <rusbus> lol [19:53] <rusbus> I'm trying to think if I can use a lambda to shorten my quine [19:53] <rusbus> ]but now that I've seen the sneakily short quines out there I feel like I'm wasting my time :p [19:54] <rusbus> cause I know it's verbose in comparison [19:54] <solidity> I should mention I know very little python. [19:54] * rusbus whips solidity [19:54] <rusbus> MUSH! [19:54] <solidity> I'm getting there. [19:59] <Kilos> wb gremble [19:59] <gremble> Thank you [20:00] <Kilos> aw i didnt even chat to squish102 [20:00] <gremble> Sometimes I have to reboot this system [20:00] <Kilos> squish102 you here? [20:00] <rusbus> gremble you missed a lot [20:00] <rusbus> solidity showed us the best quine ever [20:02] <gremble> Oh? [20:02] <gremble> show me again? [20:02] <solidity> It was the king of all quines. [20:02] <solidity> I will in a sec, I just have to actually finish it first. [20:02] <solidity> :P [20:02] <rusbus> gremble it's too good to repeat [20:02] <rusbus> even though it can repeat itself [20:02] <rusbus> dommot solidity [20:02] <rusbus> foils my jest [20:03] <solidity> I threw rus under the bus. [20:05] <rusbus> :c [20:12] <solidity> ok done [20:12] <rusbus> LINK [20:12] <rusbus> :D [20:13] <solidity> feast your eyes on this monstrosity: http://pastebin.com/ThRhwdgZ [20:13] <rusbus> ok first off [20:14] <rusbus> the " " thing [20:14] <rusbus> is normally disallowed [20:14] <rusbus> :p [20:14] <rusbus> but that is pretty damn cool [20:15] <solidity> That is just a shorthand for escaping quotes? [20:15] <rusbus> ya [20:15] <rusbus> well [20:15] <rusbus> it's the same number of chars really [20:15] <rusbus> if you do "''" or [20:15] <rusbus> \"\" [20:15] <solidity> "\"" is also disallowed? [20:15] <rusbus> 4 either way [20:15] <rusbus> I dunno [20:15] <rusbus> I don't know all the rules :p [20:16] <solidity> I don't think there are any really. [20:16] <solidity> It just has to output its source code, and reading the source file is kind of lame. [20:16] <rusbus> na there are [20:16] <rusbus> oh [20:16] <rusbus> well [20:16] <rusbus> then I'm lame [20:16] <rusbus> ;c [20:17] <solidity> Where are these rules? [20:17] <rusbus> I just read some stuff [20:17] <solidity> And who came up with them? [20:17] <rusbus> people were doing them [20:17] <rusbus> and said don't do x or y [20:17] <rusbus> no idea [20:17] <solidity> I suppose it is degrees of difficulty. [20:17] <solidity> Or to try different approaches. [20:18] <solidity> Think about mine is you need to know just the basics of syntax to do it. [20:18] <solidity> thing* [20:18] <rusbus> before you said the thing about reading source file [20:18] <rusbus> this was what I made [20:18] <rusbus> http://paste2.org/6O666Lv8 [20:19] <solidity> hehe [20:19] <solidity> I thought about doing that too. [20:19] <solidity> ah [20:20] <solidity> "A quine is a non-empty computer program which takes no input and produces a copy of its own source code as its only output." [20:20] <solidity> >takes no input [20:20] <rusbus> as in [20:20] <rusbus> just run it [20:20] <solidity> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quine_%28computing%29 [20:20] <rusbus> I can shorten mine a taaaaaad [20:20] <rusbus> with open(__file__) as f: [20:20] <rusbus> for l in f.readlines(): [20:20] <rusbus> print l [20:22] * inetpro calling it a day [20:22] <inetpro> good night [20:22] <solidity> Since mine is built on genetic principles you could introduce mutations to it and see how it develops. :P [20:22] <rusbus> night inetpro [20:22] <solidity> night [20:22] <Kilos> night inetpro [20:22] <Kilos> sleep tight [20:22] <Kilos> night all, sleep tight, much warmer in bed [20:22] <rusbus> solidity [20:22] <rusbus> print open(__file__).read() [20:22] <rusbus> BOOM [20:22] <solidity> Although most mutations would probably result in immediate runtime errors. [20:22] <Kilos> see you tomorrow [20:22] <rusbus> BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM [20:22] <rusbus> night Kilos [20:23] <solidity> night [20:23] <Kilos> if squish102 answers tell him ill chat to him tomorrow [20:23] <Kilos> or her [20:23] <solidity> doesn't "open(__file__).read() count as taking input? [20:23] <Kilos> ty [20:23] <rusbus> him [20:23] <rusbus> no [20:23] <rusbus> I run it like this [20:23] <Kilos> oh you know him [20:23] <rusbus> "python quine.py" [20:23] <rusbus> I don't do this [20:23] <rusbus> "python quine.py myinputgoeshere" [20:23] <rusbus> yes Kilos [20:23] <rusbus> :) [20:23] <Kilos> cool [20:23] <inetpro> Maaz: watch them [20:23] <Maaz> OK inetpro I'll keep an eye on them for you [20:23] <rusbus> he's in murica [20:23] <Kilos> thanks then [20:23] <rusbus> so his timezone is whack [20:23] <Kilos> aha [20:24] <Kilos> yah i deal with lots of them [20:24] <rusbus> 'them' [20:24] <rusbus> xSD [20:24] <rusbus> xD [20:24] <solidity> You don't pass any arguments to it but the program itself fetches input? [20:24] <Kilos> oh superfly did we greet today? [20:24] <Kilos> if not hi fly [20:24] <rusbus> hmm solidity [20:25] <rusbus> I see what you're saying [20:25] <rusbus> I think that's a philosophical thing [20:25] <rusbus> what is taking input really? :p [20:25] <rusbus> I interpreted it as you don't pass anything to it on the command line [20:26] <solidity> I think the point is that all the information is self contained, but I suppose your example doesn't break the rules because it runs under the exact same conditions mine does. [20:27] <solidity> does yours work if you paste it into the interactive interpreter? [20:27] <solidity> instead of launching it from a file? [20:28] <rusbus> let me try [20:29] <rusbus> I don't know why I tried it [20:29] <rusbus> the outcome was obvious [20:29] <rusbus> since mine reads from a file [20:29] <rusbus> it's gonna fail [20:29] <rusbus> it's not running from a file if it's in the interactive interpreter [20:29] <rusbus> :D [20:29] <solidity> So I think I win then. [20:29] <solidity> MUHAHAHAH [20:29] <rusbus> if we agree on your rules, then yes [20:29] <rusbus> but like I said [20:29] <rusbus> this argument is a philosophical one [20:31] <solidity> http://rosettacode.org/wiki/Quine [20:31] <solidity> according to this you are breaking the rules [20:32] <rusbus> :( [20:33] <solidity> wait I take that back [20:33] <solidity> "You are not allowed to read any external files with the source code." [20:33] <rusbus> is the source code itself an external file? [20:33] <solidity> import sys; sys.stdout.write(open(sys.argv[0]).read()) [20:34] <solidity> is one of the examples they give for python [20:34] <rusbus> rofl [20:34] <rusbus> solidity [20:34] <rusbus> I was writing something like that [20:34] <solidity> But it is not the source code itself that is the program being run, the source code is compiled/interpreted into a program which then runs so the file it is compiled from is an external file. [20:34] <rusbus> if we rewind a bit [20:35] <rusbus> I was saying that you can't send it input on the command line? [20:35] <rusbus> if our code is this [20:35] <rusbus> import sys; print sys.argv[1] [20:35] <rusbus> and call it like this [20:35] <rusbus> python quine.py "import sys; print sys.argv[1]" [20:35] <rusbus> then it's shorter [20:35] <rusbus> :p [20:35] <rusbus> but this is why you can't give it command line input cause that'd drastically reduce it's length [20:36] <solidity> Well, the .py file is not the program itself if I'm not mistaken. [20:36] <solidity> just like .cpp files aren't the program itself for c++ programs [20:37] <solidity> if I recall you can run .pyc files? [20:37] <solidity> and that won't work with your example? [20:37] <rusbus> never tried to run them directly [20:37] <rusbus> no [20:37] <rusbus> it doesn't work [20:37] <rusbus> says can't open file [20:37] <rusbus> doesn't exist :D [20:37] <solidity> heh [20:42] <solidity> Well, I like mine more anyway :P [21:10] <rusbus> lol [21:10] <rusbus> yours is way longer ;) [21:12] <solidity> That's what she said. [21:12] <rusbus> touche. [21:21] <solidity> :^) [21:25] <gremble> o/ [21:26] <solidity> o/ [21:26] <solidity> Also, have you played eve online before? [21:27] <Cryterion> eve? [21:27] <Cryterion> Oh and hi everyone [21:28] <solidity> a mmorpg that is basically spreadsheets in space with big laser discos all the time [21:28] <gremble> haha [21:28] <gremble> What I hear about eve is that it is a lot of work [21:28] <solidity> hi [21:28] <Cryterion> hmm, think I heard about it [21:28] <gremble> I sometimes play Tera but that is about the only game that I play [21:28] <solidity> yeah, I was just curious because o/ is the standard way to greet people in eve. [21:28] <gremble> Oh, that is the standard way that I greet people [21:28] <gremble> :P [21:28] <Cryterion> time consuming like evony is I guess [21:29] <solidity> Eve is like, adopting a second life. [21:29] <solidity> Part of me wants to play it again, but the other part of me wants to achieve something in life. [21:30] <Cryterion> rather try Illyraid, I play that, deep strategy, but is a slow paced game [21:30] <gremble> Dwarf Fortress? [21:30] <Cryterion> don't know it [21:31] <solidity> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdfFnTt2UT0 [21:31] <gremble> Old game, started as a PhD project [21:31] <gremble> Turing complete [21:32] <gremble> :P [21:32] <gremble> It has massive depth [21:32] <gremble> https://xkcd.com/1223/ [21:35] <solidity> If I ever play an mmo again it will be eve, because I still can't think of any other mmo that comes close to being as awesome. :P [21:36] <solidity> Right now all I play is xcom(the first one). [21:40] <gremble> Oh, I saw that [21:41] * Cryterion goes to check on him troops in illyriad [21:44] <gremble> i am playing nethack [21:44] <gremble> and I have no idea what I am doing [21:44] <gremble> xD [21:45] <solidity> nice [21:45] <solidity> I think I'll give Dwarf Fortress a try sometime. [21:45] <solidity> And Nethack too. [21:46] <solidity> since I only have a cheap laptop that can't play much. [21:46] <Cryterion> shouldn't stop you playing html5 based games [21:47] <solidity> For sure. [21:47] <gremble> or ncurses based games [21:47] <gremble> :P [21:49] <solidity> There are many games, and we only have time to play a few. [21:50] <Cryterion> Stay away from evony then [21:52] <gremble> :P [21:52] <rusbus> [23:27:39] <solidity> a mmorpg that is basically spreadsheets in space with big laser discos all the time [21:52] <gremble> So we make more [21:53] <rusbus> lol best description [21:53] <solidity> I still have some many games from ages ago I need to finish. [21:53] <solidity> Like xcom [21:54] <solidity> It's amazing how much I know about this game without ever actually having finished it. :P [21:54] <rusbus> o/ is like [21:54] <rusbus> as old as the internet [21:54] <rusbus> way older than eve [21:54] <rusbus> prolly originated from IRC too [21:54] <solidity> For sure, I just rarely see it outside of eve. [21:57] <gremble> I'm watching the deadspace movie. It is quite...explicit [21:57] <gremble> :P [21:57] <rusbus> there is a dead space movie? [21:57] <rusbus> is it gorey? [21:57] <gremble> Yes it is [21:57] <gremble> It is animated [21:57] <solidity> I am shuffling around files and partitions. [21:57] <gremble> So it is very gorey [22:00] <solidity> How does it compare to Event Horizon? [22:01] <rusbus> so like [22:01] <rusbus> gremble solidity [22:01] <rusbus> where you guys from [22:01] <rusbus> and that sort of stuff [22:02] <solidity> Cape Town, Northern Suburbs [22:02] <solidity> Yourself? [22:02] <rusbus> and the other sort of stuff [22:02] <rusbus> amanzimtoti [22:02] <rusbus> (30km south of durbs) [22:03] <gremble> This movie makes me feel lkike I felt playing the game [22:04] <gremble> I am from Pretoria [22:05] <Cryterion> hmm, Durban [22:05] * rusbus holds a knife to Cryterion [22:05] <rusbus> what of it? [22:06] <gremble> Sho [22:06] <gremble> :P [22:06] <rusbus> xD [22:06] * Cryterion drives past rusbus everyday and he always misses [22:06] <rusbus> orly [22:06] <rusbus> where you from Cryterion [22:06] <rusbus> I might *LITERALLY* drive past you daily [22:06] <rusbus> (ride*) [22:06] <Cryterion> Queensburgh, Durban [22:06] <rusbus> cool, I have some friends there [22:07] <rusbus> I ride past on the N2 daily [22:07] <Cryterion> Workshop is in Scottbourgh, so on the N2 south up down daily [22:08] <gremble> I went on holiday to Scottbourgh once [22:09] <rusbus> oh thats cool [22:09] <kulelu88> you okes love the coast [22:09] <rusbus> not everyday you come across someone from north of toti travelling south of toti [22:09] <rusbus> we're like the barrier [22:09] <rusbus> :p [22:09] <Cryterion> I still need to practice my casting from office window, to see if can that hook at least into the water while working [22:09] <gremble> I dislike going to the beach [22:10] <Cryterion> I like fishing [22:10] <gremble> My father used to like that a lot [22:10] <gremble> I can't sit still long enough [22:10] <solidity> You can walk on beaches, or run, do cartwheels. [22:10] <solidity> The whole lot. [22:11] <Cryterion> rusbus: yep, roads nice travelling, I'm always opposite to traffic load [22:12] <Cryterion> gremble: patience is the key, but when that fish bites, have fun [22:12] <rusbus> aye, I'd love to work south bound [22:12] <kulelu88> the beach aint for chilling. beach football, beach volleyball, surfing, kite-surfing, wind-surfing, snorkling and smoking zol (if thats your thing) [22:12] <solidity> what is it for then? [22:13] * Cryterion goes hmm, where is that thing [22:13] <kulelu88> ^^ [22:13] <gremble> Good evening kulelu88 :P [22:13] <kulelu88> good evening gremble-sun [22:19] <gremble> I need a blanky. It is rather cold [22:21] <kulelu88> more like kak-cold [22:21] <gremble> If you take a dump and it is this cold, you really need to see a doctor abou tit [22:21] <gremble> it* [22:22] <rusbus> solidity - my quine doesn't print comments [22:22] <rusbus> just a random thought i just had :p [22:25] <solidity> really? [22:25] <solidity> Oh well, I don't really know how python works in detail. [22:25] <kulelu88> KZN guys, it is possible to surf at night in winter? [22:25] <rusbus> yes [22:26] <kulelu88> rusbus: show your code, I may be able to help [22:26] <Cryterion> yes [22:26] <Cryterion> and go skying [22:26] <gremble> skying? [22:26] <rusbus> I don't need help, thanks kulelu88 :) [22:26] <kulelu88> gremble: we're missing out mate [22:26] <rusbus> I love skying. [22:26] <Cryterion> burg is just up the road [22:26] <gremble> What is skying? [22:26] <kulelu88> skiing [22:26] <gremble> Oh [22:26] <gremble> That makes more sense [22:26] <kulelu88> ='D [22:27] <Cryterion> surf morn, sky lunch time, surf to close the evening [22:27] <gremble> Sharks are nocturnal [22:27] <kulelu88> and prefer capetonian meat [22:27] <Cryterion> well, up to you [22:27] <gremble> :P [22:27] <Cryterion> feed time is sunrise and sunset btw [22:27] <gremble> Only some [22:28] <gremble> Feeding time depends on the species [22:28] <kulelu88> I shall soon be a surfer too [22:28] <rusbus> I swam with some raggies [22:28] <Cryterion> and area atm, durbans nets are up [22:28] <rusbus> on aliwal shoal [22:28] <rusbus> a place called raggies cave [22:28] <rusbus> those okes aren't interested in my meat at all [22:29] <rusbus> maybe the sharks just friendzoned me [22:29] <rusbus> :( [22:29] <gremble> Only explanation [22:29] <Cryterion> maybe [22:29] <kulelu88> they bro-zoned you cause you don't code Java. #fistbump [22:29] <Cryterion> but might build up now, sard's are one their way [22:29] <rusbus> just happens that I'm teaching myself java [22:29] <rusbus> (as we speak, too!) [22:30] <gremble> No [22:30] <kulelu88> Is it the sardines or the fact that the sharks know its gunsten? [22:30] <gremble> Don't do it [22:30] <gremble> You don't have to do that to yourself [22:30] <rusbus> but I do :( [22:30] <kulelu88> fuuuu!!!! fjavaaaa! [22:30] <solidity> I'm gladdened by the fact that I will probably never have to deal with java. [22:30] <Cryterion> Best way to learn rusbus, that's how i've always done it [22:30] <rusbus> hmm? [22:31] <Cryterion> Sharks will follow the dolphins, dolphins follow the sards [22:31] <Cryterion> and other thing [22:31] <rusbus> I'm pretty sure sharks don't follow dolphins? [22:32] <Cryterion> maybe wrong, but only 4 species out of about 200 have ever attacked humans [22:33] <gremble> I wasn't being serious. Sharks are cool [22:33] <gremble> they're generaly chill-bro' [22:33] <gremble> s [22:33] <kulelu88> Until they verse the bulls. then fuuuuuu Sharks! [22:38] <Cryterion> Wait till next year, Sharks are the ones that aren't scared to try a new stratergy [22:40] <gremble> I played a rugby game once [22:41] <rusbus> I was in a team once [22:42] <Cryterion> I stuck to medic side [22:43] <solidity> http://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/jul/19/great-white-shark-jumps-boat [22:44] <gremble> Hippos do that too [22:44] <gremble> I am more scared of them :x [22:44] <Cryterion> Go on a boat, upset a hippo, and it'll follow you around all day [22:45] <solidity> hippo just wants to be your friend [22:45] <gremble> They're fat and angry [22:45] <gremble> That is what they are [22:45] <Cryterion> Just don't make a fire [22:46] <solidity> They are angry because no one wants to be their friends which is why they overeat too. [22:46] <solidity> They are also cold most of the time. [22:46] <gremble> I think solidity is a hippo in disguise [22:46] <gremble> Trying to get us to trust them [22:46] <Cryterion> Hippo can move at 30km/h in water [22:46] <gremble> So that they can kill us [22:47] <gremble> On the internet no one knows that you're a hippo [22:47] <solidity> LIES AND SLANDER! HOW DARE YOU INSINUATE THE NOBLE HIPPO TO STOOP TO SUCH LOW TACTICS AS IMPERSONATING THEIR PREY IN ORDER TO EAT THEM! [22:47] <Cryterion> rotflmao [22:48] <solidity> :P [22:48] <Cryterion> missed the f in there lol [22:49] <gremble> You missed an f? [22:49] <gremble> How many do you want [22:49] <Cryterion> only the 1 [22:49] <solidity> our or ive I think is suiccient [22:50] <rusbus> ok so [22:50] <rusbus> I'm buying that haskell book [22:50] <rusbus> it is settled. [22:50] <Cryterion> Not sure [22:51] <solidity> which one? [22:51] <rusbus> learn you some haskell [22:51] <rusbus> :D [22:51] <solidity> I'm torn between physical books and ebooks. [22:51] <rusbus> just don't tear the books [22:51] <rusbus> I feel I learn better from physical books [22:51] <rusbus> but ebooks are just too easy to pirate >:D [22:52] <solidity> Because I love physical books, but I have a thing against having all these books you have to store and lug around and whatnot. [22:52] <kulelu88> rusbus is doing that thing where you learn to learn to learn and not write any software [22:52] <rusbus> hmm? [22:54] <solidity> That is more me. [22:56] <gremble> solidity: perhaps look at this http://bitemyapp.com/posts/2014-12-31-functional-education.html [22:56] <gremble> rusbus: ^ [22:57] <rusbus> kulelu88? [23:01] <kulelu88> hello? [23:01] <rusbus> nvm I guess [23:03] <kulelu88> rusbus: ?? oh my comment. well you see. you said you were learning Java... then buying a book on Haskell ... then you'd probably want to learn Go also. language-foo, and it takes a while to actually get comfortable with any language, so it wastes time if you arent a student or something [23:03] <rusbus> I see no problem in trying out multiple languages? [23:03] <rusbus> I don't want a job programming haskell [23:04] <rusbus> but I'd like to get into it, at least just a little bit [23:04] <rusbus> buying a book is not marrying the language [23:05] <kulelu88> true, but what are your intentions. Do you need to code something or is this your pasttime? [23:05] <rusbus> the latter [23:05] <kulelu88> aahh you should chill here more often. gremble codes haskell for fun also [23:06] <rusbus> well my bouncer is connected here [23:06] <rusbus> so ya [23:06] <rusbus> you'll see me more [23:06] <gremble> There has been a surge of new faces [23:06] <gremble> It is quite nice [23:07] <rusbus> MaNI's fault [23:08] <solidity> thanks gremble [23:08] <rusbus> we're from shadowfire [23:08] <kulelu88> what's that? [23:08] <solidity> for the haskell info [23:08] <rusbus> for this [23:08] <rusbus> http://bitemyapp.com/posts/2014-12-31-functional-education.html [23:08] <gremble> solidity: that guy has some momentum in the haskell community, so I wouldn't offhandedly disregard his opinions on learning it :P [23:09] <solidity> I don't care about that really, what he says makes enough sense to me to look at what he recommends. [23:10] <kulelu88> what is shadowfire? [23:10] <rusbus> south african IRC network [23:10] <gremble> it is an irc network kulelu88 [23:10] <rusbus> irc.shadowfire.org [23:11] <kulelu88> whoa! we have 1 of those haha [23:11] <gremble> We had a channel there for the UP cos department [23:11] <rusbus> I think there is only Atrum and ShadowFire left [23:11] <rusbus> (regarding SA IRC servers) [23:11] <kulelu88> any popular channels? [23:11] <gremble> solidity: I am looking at that course at UPenn and it looks really cool so far [23:11] <rusbus> shadowfire has seen a massive decrease in numbers the past 2 or so years [23:11] <solidity> same [23:11] <rusbus> like a HUGE decline [23:12] <kulelu88> all the users in australia now or "whatsapp group" :/ [23:12] <kulelu88> *? [23:13] <rusbus> er, what? [23:13] <solidity> All the rural irc network settlements are being abandoned in favour of the big urban sprawl that is freenode. [23:14] <kulelu88> I think solidity gets me ='D [23:14] <kulelu88> ='''''''''''D [23:14] <solidity> I wonder about that. [23:16] <gremble> I will murder someone if they add me on a whatsapp group and use it like IRC [23:18] <solidity> So for some reason the haskell platform install wants 1.2 gb of disk space. [23:19] <solidity> The install file is 132mb [23:19] <gremble> I have no idea [23:19] <gremble> I don't remember mine being that bing [23:19] <gremble> big* [23:20] <kulelu88> Does it use a vm like java? [23:21] <gremble> Nope [23:21] <gremble> It has a REPL interpreter and a compiler [23:22] <gremble> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/4858585/why-is-ghc-so-large-big [23:23] <gremble> Still doesn't say why you get it as 1.2GB [23:23] <rusbus> so large big [23:25] <gremble> I wonder what the fuck this cat eats. It farts death [23:26] <solidity> ah [23:26] <solidity> every lib comes in 4 flavours [23:27] <solidity> Well, as long as the programs themselves aren't so massive :P [23:28] <gremble> Fairly sure that the community would have complained if they were [23:28] <gremble> xD [23:29] <solidity> I don't know, people still use PHP. [23:30] <solidity> Then again, the user base varies significantly (hopefully) [23:30] <gremble> I read a quote today, "I am a PHP programmer and I have never maintained a bad codebase" [23:31] <rusbus> what he means is he makes a bad codebase then abandons it [23:31] <solidity> That twitter account? [23:32] <solidity> hahaha [23:32] <gremble> Yup [23:35] <Cryterion> morning guys, I'm off to sleep [23:37] <gremble> Cheers [23:39] <solidity> laters [23:39] <solidity> so [23:39] <solidity> haskell ide [23:39] <solidity> that isn't vim [23:39] <solidity> or emacs [23:39] <solidity> maybe I should just use vim [23:41] <gremble> emacs is your best bet [23:41] <gremble> :< [23:41] <gremble> Remember to use spaces instead of tabs [23:41] <solidity> :( [23:41] * solidity likes tabs. [23:42] <gremble> tabs break things [23:42] <solidity> like poorly programmed parsers! [23:42] <solidity> bah humbug! [23:43] <solidity> why emacs? [23:44] <gremble> emacs has a really nice vim-mode [23:46] <solidity> I'm going to try atom first [23:49] <gremble> haskell-mode [23:49] <gremble> I'm apparently on drugs [23:50] <squish102> hmm anyone running a hadoop cluster on ubuntu? [23:50] <squish102> i'm thinking i will have to put it on redhat [23:52] <gremble> Im going to do the sleep thing [23:53] <gremble> CHeers [23:53] <solidity> night [23:55] <solidity> also turning in, night [23:56] <squish102> night [23:57] <kulelu88> squish102: check for a docker container using ubuntu with hadoop [23:59] <squish102> kulelu88: thanks, googling now
ubuntu-chat
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2015-06-06T00:00:00
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2015-06-06-#kubuntu-devel
[06:50] <[Relic]> !xorg memory leak [07:27] <Riddell> https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/next-stage2/+packages?field.name_filter=&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=wily needs some working out the failures [09:54] <lordievader> Good morning. [12:02] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all [16:22] <clivejo> just performed an update to wily - but getting an error while applying changes [16:22] <clivejo> trying to overwrite '/usr/share/kservicetypes5/kpackage-packagestructure.desktop', which is also in package libkf5package5:amd64 5.9.0-0ubuntu1 [19:35] <ahoneybun> damn plasma you have issues [19:40] <[Relic]> can't even get my proper video settings back, no more change session for me ever, may need to go back to 14.10 or another OS if this insanity keeps up, this screen is hard to look at [19:49] <ahoneybun> plasma crashes when I switch monitor [19:49] <ahoneybun> but it does come back [19:49] <ahoneybun> but I'm wondering if Ubuntu would play better with steam [20:15] * ahoneybun will switch to Ubuntu in a few
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2015-06-06-#ubuntu-br
[00:00] <Carlos_br> Não fui eu. rsrsrs mas tudo bem [00:01] <pikiriba> ops [00:01] <pikiriba> valew omelete [00:01] <pikiriba> :) [00:01] <Carlos_br> Vou baixar o xubuntu e ver aqui. obrigado pessoal! [00:03] <pikiriba> não consegui [00:04] <pikiriba> como eu faço pra pedir um cd de instalação ? [00:04] <pikiriba> alguém sabe gente? [00:04] <omelete> pikiriba, qual erro é? [00:04] <pikiriba> não atualiza [00:04] <pikiriba> da erro [00:05] <pikiriba> e pede pra reinstalar o SO [00:05] <pikiriba> um amigo instalou o lubuntu 14.4 [00:05] <omelete> ñ tem mais jeito de pedir cd [00:06] <pikiriba> mas não consigo ver foto [00:06] <omelete> tem q baixar a ISO e gravar num dvd ou colocar no pendrive [00:06] <pikiriba> não ouço música [00:06] <pikiriba> hummmm [00:06] <pikiriba> entendi [00:07] <pikiriba> aqui o notbook [00:07] <pikiriba> só consegue dar o boot pelo cd [00:07] <pikiriba> não aceita pendrive [00:07] <pikiriba> é uma carroça hhehhh [00:07] <omelete> jeito é cd/dvd então [00:08] <pikiriba> verdade [00:08] <pikiriba> aqui no site do ubuntu [00:08] <pikiriba> eu consigo baixar o so a iso ? [00:08] <omelete> sim [00:08] <pikiriba> massa!! [00:08] <omelete> lubuntu e xubuntu tem q ir no respectivo site [00:09] <pikiriba> muito obrigado OMELETE [00:09] <pikiriba> saúde e sucesso aí gente boa [00:09] <pikiriba> :) [00:09] <pikiriba> abraço [00:09] <omelete> igualmente [00:09] <pikiriba> valew [00:09] <pikiriba> vou aqui [00:11] <barna> https://www.facebook.com/LinuxXiitas/photos/a.496517917029803.129977.496503617031233/798133103534948/?type=1 [02:53] <Carlos_br> Boa noite [02:53] <astroo-> ola novamente [02:54] <Carlos_br> baixei o xubuntu 14 e gravei em pen drive. mas não executa no boot. percebi que não tem executável na raiz. é assim mesmo? [02:56] <astroo-> no site oficial do ubuntu tem la num sitio o que fazer [02:57] <Carlos_br> instalei o ubuntu 14 perfeito, mas ficou lento. tentei fazer o mesmo com o xubuntu e agora isso. [02:58] <Carlos_br> como um pendrive gerado por uma iso não tem executável na raiz? aff [03:00] <astroo-> mais nao sei [03:00] <manokara> absurdo [03:00] <Carlos_br> kkk [03:01] <manokara> deve ter, algo como vmlinuz [03:01] <manokara> mas se não tá dando boot alguma coisa deu errada quando o grub foi se instalar na MBR do pendrive [03:01] <Carlos_br> tanto a versão torrent quanto a FTP estão assim. o problema deve ser eu pô. rsrsrs [03:02] <manokara> né :P [03:02] <manokara> já aconteceu comigo de várias coisas simplesmente não funcionarem no passado. tempos depois, funciona como mágica [03:02] <manokara> fascinante [03:02] <Carlos_br> rsrsrsr [03:03] <manokara> no caso é como eu disse, tem que ir hardcore mode e ler a MBR pra ver se tem algo com SYSLINUX por lá [03:03] <manokara> gravasse a iso por onde? [03:03] <KurtKraut> Carlos_br, Siga algum tutorial sobre como instalar e rodar Linux. Sua dúvida sobre 'executável' evidencia que você está com a mentalidade Windows, isso não funciona aqui. [03:04] <Carlos_br> baixei site oficial e gravei no windows 8.1 [03:04] <manokara> pois é, não é como se ele fosse executar um instalador ou algo do tipo [03:04] <manokara> são instruções x86 diretas para o processador (y) [03:04] <Carlos_br> universal usb installer... fiz assim com o ubuntu 14 e deu certo [03:05] <Carlos_br> :/ [03:05] <manokara> hmm, isto é um baita problema [03:06] <manokara> já tentou com o YUMI? Se bem que esses 2 softwares tem bases parecidas [03:06] <Carlos_br> achei que dando boot pelo pen drive tinha que ter um .exe ali na raiz. pensei que no lixux tb fosse assim. estou instalando em maquina que já tem o ubuntu instalado [03:07] <Carlos_br> vou ver aqui... yumi [03:08] <manokara> ter tem, mas não é um um ".exe". Quem cuida da executação é o bootloader, o GRUB. E se ele não está dando boot, ou a BIOS tá de sacanagem contigo ou o grub não foi instalado direito... [03:11] <manokara> percebi agora que escrevi "executação", rs [03:25] <Carlos_br> no raiz, tem um diretorio "boot" e dentro dele um "grub" e finalmente o arquivo loopback.cfg [03:27] <sistematico> Carlos_br, Cheque o MD5 da imagem que baixou. [03:28] <sistematico> Carlos_br, A propósito, nem no windows tem necessidade de ter um *.exe na raíz do pendrive, talvez um *.sys, *.bat, etc... [03:29] <sistematico> Carlos_br, Verifique se o MD5 da imagem que baixou confere com a que está no site de download: http://www.winmd5.com/ [03:30] <sistematico> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes [03:31] <sistematico> Aparentemente, você fez tudo certo: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows [03:32] <sistematico> Aí ele recomenda o Universal USB Installer mesmo. [03:33] <sistematico> Carlos_br, Pode tentar o Rufus tambem: https://rufus.akeo.ie/?locale=pt_BR [03:37] <Carlos_br> vendo aqui... [03:50] <Carlos_br> Refiz o processo e tá rolando. obrigado pessoal [03:50] <astroo-> ok [03:58] <astroo-> ciao pessoal [04:25] <Carlos_br> Obrigado por tudo. Um bom final de semana a todos! [10:17] <ebrazjr> bom dia a todos do canal [10:18] <ebrazjr> ok [10:18] <ebrazjr> preciso dde uma ajuda [10:20] <ebrazjr> wifi no netbook hp com ubuntu [11:20] <appa> qual o equipamento minimo para instalacao do ubuntu ultima versao [12:58] <mirqui> bom dia :) [13:19] <andersonid> bom dia galera... duvida newbie e rapida. Pq nao consigo alternar entre usuários e manter a sessao aberta? [13:19] <andersonid> o botao alternar usuário está desabilitado para usa-lo [13:50] <DimyMark> hi [13:51] <mirqui> hi , portuguese please :) [13:51] <DimyMark> Oi [13:51] <mirqui> blza :) [13:51] <DimyMark> Sou BRASILEIRO [13:52] <DimyMark> Pode me ajudar? [13:52] <mirqui> sim , eu tbm [13:52] <mirqui> fala , se der te ajudo [13:53] <DimyMark> Eu uso o ubuntu versão 10.4 quero atualizar mais não está dando [13:53] <DimyMark> diz que erro na rede [13:54] <mirqui> pega uma iso , é mais fácil [13:54] <DimyMark> você sabe que seja? [13:54] <mirqui> a 14. é muito boa [13:54] <DimyMark> diz como eu faço [13:54] <mirqui> vai no site do ubuntu [13:55] <mirqui> eu semp5re que pego é pelo superdownloads [13:55] <DimyMark> Eu já estou baixando a versão 14.04 é a 15.04 [13:55] <mirqui> depois é só gravar o dvd [13:55] <DimyMark> certo [13:55] <DimyMark> que mais [13:55] <mirqui> é só [13:55] <mirqui> instala e boa sorte :) [13:56] <mirqui> haa vc pode usar dual boot tbm [13:56] <mirqui> a 14 e a 15 no mesmo pc [13:57] <DimyMark> uso dual boot com windows xp [13:57] <mirqui> ai vê qual a melhor [13:57] <mirqui> sim , então vc pode fazer dual boot win ubuntu [13:57] <DimyMark> vou testa o 15.04 [13:57] <mirqui> ou trial boot win 14 e 15 [13:57] <sistematico> DimyMark, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/upgrade [13:58] <DimyMark> obrigado <sistematico> [13:59] <sistematico> DimyMark, Porem, o que o mirqui falou é o mais adequado pra você. [14:00] <sistematico> De nada. [14:00] <mirqui> vc pode usar máquinas virtuais tbm [14:00] <DimyMark> não uso maquina virtual [14:00] <mirqui> no ubuntu tem [14:00] <DimyMark> uso direto no hd dual boot [14:00] <mirqui> ai vc testa [14:01] <mirqui> bom , vc que sabe [14:01] <DimyMark> vou testar [14:01] <mirqui> tudo é bem fácil de instalar [14:01] <DimyMark> está terminando de baixar [14:02] <mirqui> é desktop ou note ? [14:03] <mirqui> vc pode usar um pendrive tbm [14:03] <mirqui> no desktop é tranquilo [14:03] <DimyMark> Eu uso em meu not é meu pc [14:03] <sistematico> o_O [14:03] <mirqui> no note acho que vc tem que mexer na bios para dar boot pelo pendrive [14:04] <sistematico> ESC, F2 ou F8 [14:04] <mirqui> ahaha calma , os dois são tranquilos [14:04] <DimyMark> já no meu not eu uso só o ubuntu [14:04] <mirqui> é só fazer um ou outro ajuste [14:05] <DimyMark> Eu quero instalar atualizar a versão é do meu pc [14:05] <DimyMark> Já atualizei a lista [14:05] <DimyMark> mais não deu [14:05] <mirqui> então se vc tem um pendrive melhor , economisa 1 real :) [14:06] <sistematico> DimyMark, atp-get update && apt-get upgrade mantem você na mesma release, não muda de release. [14:06] <DimyMark> da versão 10.04 não atualizar de jeite nem um [14:06] <DimyMark> Eu já fiz isso [14:06] <DimyMark> <sistematico> [14:06] <mirqui> é muito antiga [14:07] <DimyMark> sim <mirqui> [14:07] <mirqui> e ter uma iso no dvd ou no pendrive é bom [14:07] <mirqui> ai vc instala se der algum bode [14:07] <DimyMark> vou optar para uma nova [14:08] <DimyMark> vai dá certo <mirqui> [14:09] <mirqui> então boa sorte :) [14:09] <mirqui> fui almoçar :) [14:10] <DimyMark> certo <mirqui> [14:25] <leandro_> alguem pode me ajuda e um detalhe, tenho notebook com a versao Ubuntu 14.04 e o wifi ta tudo beleza funcionando mas no notebook o led nao acende [14:28] <leandro_> o modelo do meu notebook ibm r51e thinkpad [14:29] <leandro_> alguem pode me ajuda e um detalhe, tenho notebook com a versao Ubuntu 14.04 e o wifi ta tudo beleza funcionando mas no notebook o led nao acende o modelo do meu notebook ibm r51e thinkpad [14:29] <sistematico> Ficar repetindo não ajuda. [14:30] <sistematico> Está funcionando? [14:30] <leandro_> funcionando sim [14:30] <sistematico> Então não tem problema :) [14:30] <leandro_> e so um detalher [14:31] <sistematico> Ele acende no Windows? [14:31] <leandro_> sim [14:31] <sistematico> Não acende nem quando está transmitindo dados? [14:31] <leandro_> estava com windows xp [14:31] <leandro_> eu tirei e instalei o ubuntu [14:32] <leandro_> e que eu vi esse detalhe mas do resto ta tudo blz [14:32] <sistematico> leandro_, gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/wlan.conf [14:33] <sistematico> options iwlcore led_mode=1 [14:33] <sistematico> Salve, feche e reinicie. [14:33] <DimyMark> Leandro está passando dados? [14:33] <leandro_> valeu [14:35] <sistematico> Ubuntu safadenho [14:37] <marcelomauro> bom dia pessoal. Estou precisando fazer um "disquete" de boot ou cd, tanto faz, a partir de arquivos que eu compilei. Estou apanhando aqui sobre como fazer isso. Sei que é facinho você fazer isso com dd if=... of=/dev/fd0 mas no meu caso não tenho driver fisico de disquete e/ou cdrom [14:37] <marcelomauro> no caso vou precisar usar no virtualbox [14:45] <sistematico> marcelomauro, Quer criar uma ISO do seu sistema completo com alterações que você fez? [14:45] <sistematico> É isso? [14:45] <marcelomauro> nao [14:45] <sistematico> Não entendi. [14:45] <marcelomauro> estou estudando como criar S.O. e preciso fazer um disco de boot dos arquivos que eu programei [14:46] <marcelomauro> tenho um arquivo compilado boot.bin [14:46] <marcelomauro> preciso criar uma imagem que possa ser lida pelo virtualbox para dar boot por ele [14:46] <marcelomauro> ou por qualquer computador [14:47] <sistematico> Cara, ainda não entendi, me desculpa. [14:47] <sistematico> O SO é o Ubuntu? [14:47] <marcelomauro> nao [14:47] <sistematico> hummm... [14:48] <marcelomauro> cara não é nenhum sistema pronto [14:48] <sistematico> Quer dar boot em um sistema, qual seria esse sistema? [14:48] <marcelomauro> digamos que tenho arquivo A, b e c [14:49] <marcelomauro> como por isso numa imagem de cd [14:49] <marcelomauro> é só isso que eu preciso saber [14:49] <marcelomauro> uma imagem de CD ou disquete bootavel [14:49] <sistematico> Certo, colocar isso na imagem é muito fácil. [14:49] <marcelomauro> (até porque não é garantia que o meu SO funcione!!! kkkkk estou testando) [14:50] <marcelomauro> sistematico, então me passe ai alguma dica de tuto pra eu aprender [14:50] <sistematico> dd if=/pasta of=imagem.iso [14:51] <sistematico> Em síntese, é isso. [14:51] <sistematico> Mas pode usar o genisofs, entre outros milhares de programas. [14:51] <sistematico> Assim como o Brasero mesmo. [14:51] <marcelomauro> então... quando faço isso diz que o arquivo imagem.iso não está no formato correto [14:52] <sistematico> marcelomauro, mkisofs -o imagem.iso pasta/ [14:52] <sistematico> Mas aí que entra o segredinho... [14:52] <marcelomauro> no caso do if= tem que ser uma pasta, e vazia? ou posso if=boot.bin? [14:52] <sistematico> Você tem vários formatos pra ISO. [14:53] <sistematico> marcelomauro, Depende... [14:53] <sistematico> marcelomauro, Pasta vazia não. [14:53] <marcelomauro> vazia que eu digo com somente o boot.bin dentro [14:55] <sistematico> Então, o conceito dessa *.bin aí é muito abstrato. [14:55] <sistematico> Em tese, a propria bin seria a imagem. [14:55] <sistematico> Mas eu não tenho idéia do que se trata.. [14:56] <sistematico> Não sei qual sistema é, nem o que tem dentro dessa bin. [14:56] <marcelomauro> cara... nao tem sistema [14:56] <marcelomauro> é o mais baixo nivel que vc pode imaginar [14:56] <marcelomauro> é um codigo assembly compilado [14:57] <marcelomauro> que simplesmente vai ser chamado no processo de boot [14:57] <marcelomauro> estou tentando escrever um kernel ainda [14:58] <marcelomauro> só me enganchei nisso por que no computador que eu tenho não tenho drivers fisicos [14:59] <marcelomauro> esse arquivo precisa ser gravado no primeiro setor de boot do disquete, como se fosse um bootloader [14:59] <sistematico> É, infelizmente não tenho conhecimento nenhum nessa área, a única coisa que posso sugerir é isso: http://asm.sourceforge.net/intro/Assembly-Intro.html [14:59] <marcelomauro> se eu tivesse driver físico bastaria fazer dd if=boot.bin of=/dev/fd0 [15:00] <marcelomauro> e o arquivo era gravado la [15:00] <sistematico> E na minha opinião de leigo, não vai rodar no vbox não. [15:00] <marcelomauro> neste caso não é "rodar"... até porque não tem nada [15:01] <marcelomauro> basta não aparecer a mensagem de que nenhum sistema operacional foi encontrado [15:01] <marcelomauro> sistematico, mas valeu pela ajuda cara [15:01] <sistematico> Ok. [15:02] <sistematico> Se quer fazer uma nova distro eu recomendo fortemente o LFS. [15:02] <marcelomauro> nao quero fazer uma nova distro [15:02] <marcelomauro> estou estudando programação [15:02] <marcelomauro> de sistemas operacionais [15:03] <marcelomauro> criando o meu a partir do zero, como aprendizado [15:03] <marcelomauro> criando o kernel na verdade [15:03] <marcelomauro> é que eu gosto da area de sistemas embarcados [15:04] <marcelomauro> O LFS já está todo pronto, no que toca o que eu estou estudando [15:07] <marcelomauro> sistematico, eu estou começando daqui https://github.com/Stichting-MINIX-Research-Foundation/minix/blob/master/minix/kernel/arch/i386/mpx.S [15:07] <marcelomauro> não esse, mas algo do tipo [17:52] <leoalves> ola boa tarde a todos [19:19] <Guest95892> boa noite a todos... tenho uma dúvida.. acabei de adquirir um notebook modelo dell vostro 5470. li algumas mensagens informando de alguns problemas ao instalar o ubuntu nesse notebook. touchpad não funcionava, problemas com audio, etc.. [19:20] <Guest95892> sabem se ainda persiste esse problema? [19:27] <Guest95892> ????? [19:27] <mirqui> oi , ví tua pergunta , mas não sei te dizer [19:28] <mirqui> da uma olhada nesse buscador [19:28] <mirqui> http://www.buscador.sempreupdate.org/ [19:28] <mirqui> ou dá uma pesquisada no google [19:51] <leonardo_> alguem por favor pode me ajudar? [19:53] <leonardo_> alguem por favor pode me ajudar? :) [19:55] <leonardo_> alguem por favor pode me ajudar? :) [20:05] <manokara> leonardo_: qual o problema? [20:49] <astroo-> ola pessoal [21:51] <zanbuz> Boa noite, o link do download http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04/ubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-i386.iso está fora, alguém poderia me dar uma alternativa\? [21:54] <omelete> zanbuz, tenta o torrent [21:55] <zanbuz> tb tá off [21:58] <zanbuz> encontrei este: http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04/ubuntu-14.04.2-desktop-i386.iso.torrent [21:58] <zanbuz> vlw [21:58] <astroo-> ola [22:04] <zanbuz> ola [22:35] <Jr_> to com um problema ao intalar o ubunto, depois de instalado quando vai ser iniciado pela primeira vez ele alega um erro, diz q o sistema tem muitas particçoes primarias e q não reconhece [22:36] <Jr_> versões mais antiga eu instalava da msm maneira e dava tudo certo [22:37] <astroo-> da uns 15 minutos pela possivel resposta de alguem [22:58] <Jr_> alguem? [22:59] <astroo-> ve o privado [23:14] <Bugs_Crash> Boa Tarde Pessoal: Estou com um problema para configurar o proftpd na diretiva DefaultRoot. Estou setando para "~" para cada usuario entrar em seu home dir. Porém quando acessa o ftp não tem escrita na raiz, somente se eu deixar uma pasta criada. [23:16] <astroo-> ola
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2015-06-06-#ubuntu-locoteams
[06:21] <Kilos> good morning peeps
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2015-06-06-#ubuntu-desktop
[01:16] <Noskcaj> Laney, 2 or 3 of the other extensions are dead upstream, but most of them just need git snapshots which i've already packaged in tanglu. [01:16] <Noskcaj> I also think dropping the extensions is the best option though' [08:09] <mitya57> Hi attente! [08:12] <mitya57> When I wrote the patch, I tested it with https://github.com/dglent/meteo-qt, and it worked fine under both Unity and Plasma 5 [08:13] <mitya57> attente: What package/branch can I use to reproduce your test case? [12:34] <attente> mitya57: hi, it's https://github.com/lenky0401/fcitx-qimpanel, commit 05fd858ef84da971a98d4f68b25f4bd897676b43 [12:35] <attente> mitya57: a pre-requisite you'll need is to set 'im-config -n fcitx' and restart the session [12:35] <attente> but once fcitx-qimpanel is running, the 'Virtual Keyboard' and 'Skin' submenus aren't working
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2015-06-06-#xubuntu-devel
[00:40] <bluesabre> micahg: when you're around next, can you review a package for me before I upload it? [00:40] <bluesabre> with the new lightdm-gtk-greeter, it now has conf.d support [00:40] <bluesabre> debian transitioned their config to conf.d, so I'm doing the same with ubuntu [00:41] <bluesabre> ubuntu debdiff: lightdm-gtk-greeter_2.0.0-0ubuntu1.dsc lightdm-gtk-greeter_2.0.1-1ubuntu1.dsc http://paste.ubuntu.com/11600245/ [00:41] <bluesabre> debdiff debdiff: lightdm-gtk-greeter_2.0.1-1.dsc lightdm-gtk-greeter_2.0.1-1ubuntu1.dsc http://paste.ubuntu.com/11600248/ [00:42] <bluesabre> it seems to work for me, but I thought in this case, another set of eyes would be good :) [03:04] <bluesabre> elfy, knome: perhaps one of the first FAQ articles we should write up should be for bug reporting? Alternatively, I can author a nice picture guide on my blog or a youtube video... thoughts? [05:48] <Unit193> bluesabre: I should be around tomorrow. [06:47] <elfy> bluesabre: yep wily [06:57] <elfy> bluesabre: re bug article - probably a good idea ... perhaps the QA team can deal with that [06:58] <elfy> now where's that Unit193 ... :p [08:30] <ochosi> pleia2, knome: looky looky: http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/xubuntu-vivid.html [08:30] <ochosi> "I got this fine piece of digital machinery [Ed. Xubuntu], which purrs and meows and growls like a turbo-charged tiger" [08:30] <ochosi> dunno how he gets from a mouse to a tiger, but it's an interesting evolution :) [08:41] <elfy> ochosi: must be one of these http://bit.ly/1F0Qz3Z [08:42] <elfy> ochosi: also ... http://xubuntu.org/press/ :) [09:38] <ochosi> elfy: oh crap, it's already there :) [10:07] <ochosi> elfy, bluesabre: fyi, just released xfpm 1.5.1. that should fix the icon loading issues 1.5.0 was suffering from and also some other small issues. hopefully the hidden setting will work as planned [10:14] <Noskcaj> ochosi, uploading to xubntu-staging ppa now [10:21] <ochosi> oh nice, thanks Noskcaj! [11:07] <ochosi> Noskcaj: can you take care of 15.04 too? that'll help us expand our tester base [11:34] <bluesabre> Unit193: great, feel free to build on the package I put together or trash it outright [11:35] <bluesabre> and yay, my subteam has reappeared! :D [11:40] <ochosi> hey bluesabre [11:43] <bluesabre> hey ochosi [11:43] <ochosi> wanna try whether that hidden option works for you now? [11:44] <ochosi> i actually pushed a slightly modified commit in the end [11:44] <bluesabre> sure, sounds delightful [11:44] <ochosi> :) [11:44] <ochosi> actually: doing releases more frequently is more fun cause the changelog is a lot easier to compile [11:46] <ochosi> also added a 0.8.0 tag to parole in bugzilla and re-tagged elfy's report [11:47] <bluesabre> yay! [11:47] <ochosi> btw, slight inconsistency in parole: [11:47] <ochosi> Tools > Preferences [11:47] <ochosi> but then the subsequent dialog is called "Settings" [11:48] <bluesabre> uh oh, this is new [11:48] <bluesabre> ochosi: killall xfce4-power-manager [11:48] <bluesabre> then select power manager settings from the panel plugin [11:48] <bluesabre> it asks to start the power manager, click yes [11:48] <ochosi> uhm, why not xfce4-power-manager -q? [11:48] <bluesabre> then it asks to start the power manager, click yes [11:48] <bluesabre> then it asks to start the power manager, click yes [11:48] <bluesabre> then it asks to start the power manager, click yes [11:49] <bluesabre> :o [11:49] <ochosi> strange, wfm [11:49] <ochosi> but i also asked it to exit gracefully, i didn't just blatently kill it [11:49] * bluesabre is a monster [11:50] <bluesabre> that used to work, :) [11:50] <ochosi> yeah no clue, didn't touch that part *at all* [11:50] <bluesabre> but, I have a mess of stuff open, so I'll log out and in [11:51] <ochosi> what worries me more is that before i did the release the trayicon was working nicely, now not so much [11:51] <ochosi> oh well [11:51] <ochosi> no surprises there, i got the same loop as you [11:51] <ochosi> with starting xfpm [11:52] <ochosi> so where did that last work for you? 1.5.0? 1.4.4? [11:54] <ochosi> shite. [11:55] <bluesabre> 1.5.0 [11:55] <bluesabre> yeah [11:55] <bluesabre> xfpm does not start anymore [11:55] <bluesabre> if you log out and in... :\ [11:55] <ochosi> yeah [11:55] <ochosi> i know [11:55] <ochosi> power-manager-button.c:803: invalid property id 2 for "show-panel-label" of type 'GParamInt' in 'PowerManagerButton' [11:55] <ochosi> -> segfault [11:55] <bluesabre> :| [11:56] <ochosi> the awesome thing is: i tested this. eric tested it. it all worked. [11:56] <bluesabre> the good news is that the panel plugin correctly displays the time now [11:56] <ochosi> i guess that's something [11:57] <ochosi> ok [11:57] <ochosi> the trayicon causes the segfault [11:57] <ochosi> the warning is not the problem [11:58] <bluesabre> cool, glad I could help identify a problem :) [11:59] <ochosi> yeah, anyway, i'll wait for the bugreports and enjoy the hot day now [11:59] <bluesabre> lol [12:08] <bluesabre> ochosi: send a follow-up email with how to disable the tray-icon via xfonf-query? [12:09] <ochosi> yeah could do [12:10] <bluesabre> anyhoo, gotta run, have fun [12:11] <ochosi> u2
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2015-06-06-#ubuntu-nl
[09:54] <lordievader> Goede morgen. [09:56] <DarkEra2> goede morgen lordievader [09:57] <lordievader> Hey DarkEra2 [09:58] <DarkEra2> :) [12:23] <vanschagen> hoi lordivader [12:23] <vanschagen> +e [12:23] <lordievader> o/ [12:23] <vanschagen> hoi darkera2 [14:08] <TheEagerPadawan> aan het lezen over link aagregatie, kinda intresting :) [16:32] <Sling> TheEagerPadawan: bonding is wel leuk ja, voor redundantie of meer bandwidth :) [16:33] <TheEagerPadawan> Sling: eerder voor loadbalancing tussen je nic's en faul taulerance [16:34] <Sling> ja, ligt er maar aan welke mode je gebruikt [16:34] <TheEagerPadawan> welke zou je dan aanraden van de 7 voor bandwidth? [16:35] <Sling> mja ligt eraan wat voor traffic, balance-alb doet het bv op arp/mac [16:35] <Sling> dus als je veel verschillende sessies hebt, dan verdeel je die over je twee links [16:40] <TheEagerPadawan> mja je deelt gewoon je verkeerd over de de aantal links dat je hebt voor zowel ingress als egress [20:01] <alwin> help [20:02] <alwin> lordievader trijntje zijn jullie er nog [20:02] <SCHAAP137> hup Juventus [20:02] <alwin> is er voetbal ofzo? [20:03] <SCHAAP137> ja, champions league finale [20:03] <alwin> oh, but, weet jij een commendline browser? [20:03] <SCHAAP137> w3m, lynx [20:04] <alwin> lynx sounds goed [20:04] <SCHAAP137> doet geen speciale dingen, geen javascript, geen plaatjes, etc [20:09] <alwin> schaap, en apt-get install lynx installeerd 'm? [20:10] <SCHAAP137> ja volgens mij wel [20:11] <alwin> ok ff proberen [20:12] <alwin> yes thanks [21:48] <lordievader> alwin: Jup. [21:49] <lordievader> Elinks \o/ [22:13] <alwin> goeiemorgen, helemaal terug bij de commandline. [22:17] <systeem> morge [22:18] <alwin> nu op zoek naar een cli mailprog [22:18] <systeem> mutt [22:19] <alwin> ja ik ben de manual van mutt aan t lezen [22:35] <alwin> love vim, lynx, en haat lubuntu (da mag tog wel) [22:35] <lotuspsychje> links2 is leuk [22:36] <alwin> ik heb iets leuks nodig [22:54] <JanC> alwin: 'mail'? [22:55] <alwin> ja ik heb mutt nu, morgen ff configuren [22:55] <alwin> ziet er wel relaxed uit [22:56] <JanC> ik bedoel, 'mail' is een cli mailprog :) [22:56] <JanC> beetje spartaans wel :P [22:56] <alwin> oh ja, ja dat werkt, i know. heb imap nodig [22:56] <JanC> mutt is iets geavanceerder idd. [22:57] <JanC> al kan je uiteraard IMAP syncen naar een locale spool etc. [22:58] <alwin> dan npg iets om bij de rabo te bankieren vanaf de cli. ssh? [22:59] <JanC> betwijfel of rabo dat ondersteunt, tenzij links werkt met hun webbanking of zo [22:59] <alwin> heh ik heb ook geen idee [23:00] <JanC> maar ik ben geen rabo-klant, dus... [23:00] <alwin> eerst maar weer mijn mail in orde krijgen ;) [23:01] <JanC> sommige banken ondersteunen wel een API, vb. in Duitsland [23:01] <JanC> XML-gebaseerd daar IIRC [23:01] <alwin> ze vinden t vast leuk om ergens met me te chatten ;) [23:02] <JanC> maar in de meeste landen is dat sowieso enkel voor zakelijke klanten :-( [23:02] <alwin> ik ben vet zakelijk ;) [23:05] <JanC> alwin: geen idee voor Nederlandse banken, maar IIRC moet je voor gebruik van zo'n API in België een Windows NT 4 server draaien en 40 poorten daarnaar forwarden, vanwege "security" [23:07] <JanC> (misschien is het tegenwoordig iets minder erg, maar zelfs 10 jaar geleden was dat al belachelijk) [23:07] <alwin> ik heb ook geen idee, maar het zou toch eigenlijk best simpel moeten kunnen. via de cli [23:08] <alwin> je kan ook telefoon bankieren en zo [23:08] <JanC> als de banken wilden meewerken, zeker [23:09] <lotuspsychje> die banken zijn zeker zo lek als een mandje op NT [23:09] <alwin> tenminste dat hoop k, anders houdt het zakelijk zijn ook gauw op ;) [23:09] <JanC> ze verdienen liever extra, veronderstel ik [23:09] <JanC> lotuspsychje: de banken draaien niet NT [23:10] <lotuspsychje> dacht al [23:10] <alwin> anders ga ik ze mailen met de over te maken bedragen [23:11] <OerHeks> Pas bij 1 miljoen krijgt u een bank-mens. [23:12] <alwin> he Oerheks goedemorgen [23:12] <OerHeks> ja goedemorgen :-D [23:13] <alwin> fijn zo'n nachtje met oude bekenden [23:19] <OerHeks> 5 x laatste bossen chrysanten a 1 euro, en hopla, huis vol [23:23] <alwin> goed werk
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2015-06-06-#ubuntu-us-mi
[01:18] <locodir-user> hello I was hoping someone could help me with installing ubuntu [01:20] <locodir-user> I am getting an error message that says Cannot download the metalink and therefore the ISO [01:22] <wolfger> I'm confused. I haven't done an install in some time (just keep updating existing installs), but last I checked downloading the ISO comes ahead of installing. It's what you use to make the CD/DVD/USB installer, yes? [01:23] <locodir-user> yes I downloaded the iso [01:23] <wolfger> ok. So I'm not understanding what the error message means. [01:23] <locodir-user> me either I guess [01:25] <wolfger> sorry. Wish I was more helpful. Not sure how many people are actually here this time on a Friday night... probably better luck asking again in roughly 12 hours. [01:25] <locodir-user> okay thank you. [01:39] <_stink_> i think that message is for a wubi install [01:41] <_stink_> fwiw if locodir-user comes back [01:41] <_stink_> might help a google search [01:53] <wolfger> a what install? [01:53] <wolfger> nm, I can google wubi [04:23] <cmaloney> apparenlt yYahoo Pipes is shutting down as well [11:53] <wolfger> Now what's this I hear about Chrome ending support for Java? [11:54] <wolfger> They decided they no longer wanted to be a popular browser? Or do they think they have the muscle to end internet Java applets? [11:55] <wolfger> or is there some nuance to the story that the headline missed, and I was too lazy last night to rtfa? :-p [11:57] <cscheib> wolfger: http://blog.chromium.org/2014/11/the-final-countdown-for-npapi.html [11:57] <cscheib> wolfger: not Java, but NPAPI plugins in general [11:57] <cscheib> afaik [12:08] <wolfger> as I suspected, much less sky falling than was fearmongered. [12:10] <cscheib> Orajava has the option of making a non-NPAPI plugin [12:10] <cscheib> but, they probably won't [12:10] <cscheib> or you can run their crap in another browser [12:27] <cmaloney> morning [12:30] <cmaloney> morning [12:30] <cmaloney> get to clean out giutters today woo hoo [23:02] <jrwren> who uses java in browsers?
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2015-06-06-#ubuntu-pt
[03:58] <astroo-> ciao pessoal [20:49] <astroo-> ola pessoal
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2015-06-14-#ubuntu-ir
[08:14] <ali_> سلام [08:15] <ali_> کسی نیست؟ [08:15] <ali_> آقا سوال داشتم [08:16] <ali_> توی softwar center [08:16] <ali_> برنامه ها و بازی ها عکس ندارن [08:16] <ali_> چیکار کنم؟! [11:32] <P30Hacker> Slm, Dostan Kasi Midone Bazi Pacman Vase Fedora Hast ya na agar hast chetori bayad nasb kard? [11:59] <saraa2012> salam [15:32] <King21> سلام [15:32] <King21> عامو یه سوال [15:32] <King21> فایل tar.xz چجور نصب کنم؟ [15:33] <King21> اصن لپ کلام تلگرام چجوری رو کالی و ابونتو نصب کنم [15:41] <King21> ینی دیوار میگفتم جواب میداد
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2015-06-14-#ubuntu-se
[09:08] <hplc> jag har råkat strula till det med ppa / paket / repo / databas vad-det-nu-handlar-om, hur återställer jag allt med ppa/repo till default? [09:08] <hplc> läste på om ppa-purge [09:14] <Amoz> hplc, beror mycket på vad exakt problemet är [09:14] <hplc> kan inte installera nåt, kan inte avinstallera nåt [09:14] <hplc> kan inte reparera det manuellt [09:15] <hplc> det misslyckas repareras automatiskt [09:15] <Amoz> hplc, visa med pastebin [09:16] <hplc> http://pastebin.com/staPB94S [09:17] <hplc> typ cirkel-resonemang som jag inte kommer ut ur, hur jag än försöker [09:18] <Amoz> verkar ju som att det failar pga att mariadb inte vill starta sen [09:18] <hplc> A refererar till B, som refererar till A..........etc etc [09:18] <hplc> vilket inte går heller [09:18] <Amoz> inte en aning om det hjälper, men jag hade nog purge:at mariadb och försökt på nytt [09:18] <hplc> hur? [09:19] <Amoz> dpkg --purge <paket> för de paketen man rensar, men det tar bort *allt*, även conf-filer du har liggandes på systemet iirc [09:19] <hplc> aj...purge har jag ju testat [09:19] <hplc> nåja, reinstall, det mesta ligger på extern disk [09:19] <Amoz> och vad sa den då? [09:19] <hplc> same shit all over.....typ [09:20] <Amoz> vore lite förvånande med tanke på att den inte borde försöka starta mariadb om du ska ta bort det [09:20] <hplc> och mariadb-bla-bla kan inte autokompletteras med tab [09:20] <hplc> så nån del tror redan den är väck [09:21] <hplc> nån annan del tror den är kvar, lite som ett spöke [09:21] <Amoz> hplc, alltså har du testat att googla efter felet och så? [09:22] <hplc> jo [09:22] <Amoz> men är du säger på att du inte försökte med apt-get purge ? [09:22] <Amoz> istället för dpkg [09:22] <hplc> ja definitivt [09:22] <Amoz> och du testade --force med eller? [09:23] <hplc> ja till sist [09:23] <Amoz> och vad säger följande? [09:23] <Amoz> sudo invoke-rc.d mysql start [09:23] <hplc> men tabkomplettering känner ju inte igen den [09:23] <hplc> ska testa [09:24] <hplc> hplc@hplc-P5LD2-FM:~$ sudo invoke-rc.d mysql start [09:24] <hplc> start: Job failed to start [09:24] <hplc> invoke-rc.d: initscript mysql, action "start" failed. [09:24] <hplc> hplc@hplc-P5LD2-FM:~$ [09:24] <Amoz> strunta i vad som tabbkompletteras eller ej, det kan du enbart räkna med om systemet är i gott skick, vilket det inte riktigt är i nu. [09:24] <hplc> true [09:25] <Amoz> du får kika loggarna varför den inte startar mysql [09:25] <Amoz> vilken dist/version är detta? [09:25] <hplc> 14.04 / AMD64 [09:25] <hplc> ubuntu desktop [09:26] <Amoz> och är det några särskilda ppa/paket som du lagt till som du tror ledde till detta? [09:26] * hplc tänker [09:27] <Amoz> vad körde du får kommandon innan detta? vad försökte du installera? [09:27] <Amoz> anyway, om loggen avslöjar nåt så borde du kunna få igång mysql på nåt sätt och sen köra vidare [09:27] <hplc> jag försökte komma igång med Apache2 / mysql5.5 / PHP / perl [09:28] <Amoz> vad jag undrar är om mysql och mariadb är samma sak i detta fallet, att den använder ett skript som heter "mysql" för att köra igång databasen, eller om du har blandat paket från mysql och mariadb? [09:28] <hplc> det låter mycket nära sanningen [09:29] <Amoz> för isf kan du försöka ta bort alla mysql-relaterade paket kanske, om det nu är mariadb du försöker köra [09:32] <hplc> TJOHOO :) [09:32] <hplc> YES!!! [09:33] <Amoz> antar att det var där felet låg... [09:33] <hplc> citat "för isf kan du försöka ta bort alla mysql-relaterade paket kanske" [09:34] <hplc> på nåt vis löste apt-get purge mysql* det hela, låste upp alla rester och slängde ut även mariadb-rester [09:34] <Amoz> så pass [09:34] <hplc> nu kom frågan: [09:34] <Amoz> jag antar att du nånstans råkat få in mysql/mariadb-kombo och att det därför kärvat [09:34] <hplc> "vill du ta bort alla mysql databaser" [09:34] <hplc> jo [09:34] <Amoz> har du nåt viktigt där? [09:35] <hplc> näe [09:35] <hplc> visste bara inte jag hade nån sån [09:35] <hplc> kom ju aldrig så långt vad jag minns [09:38] <hplc> kanske bättre att köra LAMP i en virtualbox med ubuntu server än att försöka göra det i desktop versionen [09:55] <Amoz> hplc, beror ju lite på vad du tänkte göra med den [09:55] <Amoz> men det ska ju inte vara nåt problem att köra det i desktop-versionen, bara att du kanske vill ta bort autostart av alla grejerna [09:56] <hplc> mja mest för utbildning [09:56] <hplc> lära in PHP typ [09:58] <hplc> är kass på html / php [09:59] <hplc> och jag lär mig inget av att peta i en wysiwyg [10:00] <hplc> även om jag inte är särskilld glad i alla dessa < > [] () hade jag kunnat hade jag flyttat dom till det numeriska tangentbordet där jag slipper få förslitningsskador i handleden [10:01] <Amoz> som lokal dev-server funkar det nog bra i desktop, tänk bara på att du inte har datorn exponerad utåt nånstans :P [10:02] <hplc> jag hoppas vid gud att min fw-maskin med ids/ips tar hand om den saken :S [10:02] <hplc> fast sånt ska man kanske inte skriva på IRC :S [10:04] <hplc> finns dom fortfarande att köpa? dom där klisterlapparna man satte på tangenter när man ändrare deras betydelse? [10:04] <hplc> ändrade* [10:04] * hplc sabla ADHD [10:30] <Dynamit> lika bra du lär dig leva med det hplc jag vet :P [10:31] <Dynamit> Tack och lov så har jag medecin som hjälper mig [11:14] <hplc> Dynamit [11:14] <hplc> Dynamit, jag fick det utskrivet med, sen fick jag en hjärnblödning [11:15] <hplc> jag har adhd och svår kronisk trötthetssjukdom [11:16] <hplc> sover nästan dygnet runt, och när jag är vaken har jag samma smidiga eleganta rörelse-schema som Kermit i tv showen Mupparna [11:17] <hplc> började tugga concerta igen utan tillstånd.....fast den sista burken tar slut om typ en vecka [11:18] <hplc> finns nog ingen annan som har så stort skäl att få det utskrivet, men dom vägrar p.g.a en hjärnblödning som inte hade ett skit med det att göra, en kärlmissbildning [11:19] <hplc> när den tar slut får det bli farbror-doktorn-i-gränden :p [11:24] <hplc> i veckans "värdelöst vetande", skulle installera back-in-time, där var root översatt till rot, slut på nyheterna [11:31] <Dynamit> haha [12:04] <molgrum> Amoz: nya routern fungerar bra, jag kör simultant dual band över wifi på min laptop :) [12:04] <molgrum> får 100/10 både över ethernet och wifi [12:04] <molgrum> jämfört med min gamla router, 30/10 [12:09] <molgrum> verkar ha en jäkla massa funktioner [12:12] <molgrum> någon som vet vad "Dina nuvarande inställningar för Nätverksplats(Samba) tillåter potentiell otillåten inloggning. Vi rekommenderar att du ändrar inställningarna till "Dela med konto" vilket gör att enbart administratörer kan logga in." betyder? har inte använt samba alls, är det routern som har samba? [12:14] <molgrum> verkar så [16:20] <molgrum> undrar om garantin blir void om man flashar med openwrt... antagligen [16:24] <molgrum> tre års garanti annars, inte helt dumt [16:45] <Dynamit> Jävla javascript skit [16:46] <einand> Dynamit: vad? [16:47] <Dynamit> Måste få till "filter fan" på en hemsida [16:47] <Dynamit> och verkar som javascript är äna lösningen [16:47] <Dynamit> men måste uppenbart anropa php-funktion som ger resultatet om vad javascriptet ska "filtrera" [16:48] <Dynamit> själva php-funktionen finns och funkar men fattar fan inte hur det ska göras för anropa trots jag läser exempel om hur det ska göras [16:49] <einand> okej [16:49] <einand> ett AJAX anropp? [16:51] <Dynamit> ärligt jag struntar i vad för anrop det är eller hur koden ser ut bara jag får den "filtrera" bort det som inte uppfyller användarens "filter val" [16:53] <Dynamit> Ursäkta om jag verkar otrevlig men vill bara bli klar med allting nu [19:43] <lord4163> Dynamit: Ligger datat i en tabel? [19:43] <lord4163> tabell*
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2015-06-14-#ubuntu-us-ca
[17:46] <MichaelPaoli> Ubuntu Hour Berkeley noon-1p @ Bobby G's, also Berkeley Linux Users Group noon-3p @ same location http://berkeleylug.com/meetings/ http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-california/2994-ubuntu-hour-berkeley/ [17:46] <darthrobot> Title: [Meetings | BerkeleyLUG] [17:46] <darthrobot> Title: [Ubuntu Hour Berkeley | Ubuntu LoCo Team Portal] [18:09] * pleia2 tweets the meeting [18:09] <pleia2> and ubuntu hour [18:55] <MichaelPaoli> And not too crowded at all at Bobby G's - some of us here already. So, if one's wondering what to do for the many hours before "the game", there's of course Ubuntu Hour Berkeley noon-1p @ Bobby G's, also Berkeley Linux Users Group noon-3p @ same location http://berkeleylug.com/meetings/ http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-california/2994-ubuntu-hour-berkeley/ [18:55] <darthrobot> Title: [Meetings | BerkeleyLUG] [18:55] <darthrobot> Title: [Ubuntu Hour Berkeley | Ubuntu LoCo Team Portal] [18:56] <MichaelPaoli> And if one's wondering what to do after, there's some non-interactive video thingies - with audio - also non-interactive ... 'bout some "game" or something like that, that I heard starts at 5pm. [19:01] * pleia2 social media-ed it earlier [19:02] <pleia2> unfortunately I've got home tasks again this weekend [19:09] <MichaelPaoli> pleia2 Yes, can only be so many (one?) places at once. I've also not yet determined how to usefully clone myself. Also would be good to have a backup planet, in case we totally botch this one. Haven't made a backup copy of the planet yet. So many things to do, so little time. [19:09] <ianorlyn> backup planet for what? [19:10] <pleia2> MichaelPaoli: haha ++ [19:11] <pleia2> trying to spend some time today prepping for the EBLUG meeting on Wednesday too
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2015-06-14-#ubuntu-us-co
[09:15] <theScaryDoor> Does anyone know of a good channel for ubuntu installation questions? re: UEFI, RAID, GRUB2, etc. [09:18] <theScaryDoor> I think I almost got ubuntu server to load. I can boot from the hard drive I installed grub to, however it gets to a grub rescue prompt.
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2015-06-14-#ubuntu-ru
[15:00] <Sergey_IT> утра [15:22] <Leagnus> полночи [19:37] <Sergey_IT> привет kwah'у [19:38] <kwah> привет [19:42] <Sergey_IT> скучно (
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2015-06-14-#ubuntu-il
[09:00] <kurdish> hi [13:50] <metalice> שלוווםם [13:50] <metalice> מיששהו חי פה?
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2015-06-14-#ubuntu-on-air
[08:42] <smokey> how to instal ubuntu on pre installed win 8.1?
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2015-06-14-#ubuntu-it
[00:14] <alantusek> ciao [00:16] <alantusek> È normale che abbia pennette e partizioni su /media/nomeutente/ invece che su /media/? [00:18] <greenrider> penso di si [00:19] <greenrider> vengono montate li [00:19] <greenrider> si anche le mie sono sotto /media/$user [00:20] <alantusek> Mi spiego: volendo montare automaticamente all'avvio la partizione ntfs che uso per i dati ho seguito questa http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Hardware/DispositiviPartizioni/MontarePartizioni/Ntfs dove invece sono in /media/ [00:21] <greenrider> il mount in ubuntu 15.04 avviene quando clicchi la prima volta sull icona del drive che io sappia [00:21] <greenrider> fino a quando non smonti o riavvii [00:21] <greenrider> a meno che nn imposti il mount al boot time [00:21] <greenrider> ma li puoi specificare come dice la guida il mount dove vuoi tu [00:23] <alantusek> sono sicuro che prima di formattare tutto e reinstallare, ho sempre avuto le partizioni su /media/ e ugualmente quando attaccavo una pennetta o un hd esterno mi ha sempre messo tutto in automatico su /media/ [00:23] <alantusek> adesso invece mi mette tutto su /media/alan/ [00:24] <greenrider> io ho li ho pure sotto /media/mioutente [00:24] <greenrider> penso sia di default cosi nelle nuove versioni di ubuntu [00:25] <greenrider> magari aspetta qualcuno piu esperto di me cmq [00:25] <alantusek> tra ieri e oggi ho formattato un paio di volte e sono abbastanza sicuro che mi metteva tutto su /media/ [00:26] <alantusek> stesso sistema operativo messo dalla stessa iso [00:26] <greenrider> che versione di ubuntu usi? [00:27] <alantusek> Ubuntu MATE 15.04 [00:27] <greenrider> nn saprei dirti, io li ho sempre avuti sotto /media/user [00:27] <greenrider> ma cmq cm mai li vuoi specificatamente su /media ? [00:30] <alantusek> No, in realtà possono stare dove vogliono, se stanno più comodi lì, che facciano pure... ;-) Solo che mi sembrava molto strano che ieri installando lo stesso OS ce li avevo su /media/ e oggi su /media/alan/ (sono sicuro perché ieri ho seguito la stessa guida e non c'era questa discrepanza tra ciò che dice li e il mio sistema) [00:34] <greenrider> in effetti da cm dici un po strano è [00:34] <greenrider> pero boh [00:34] <greenrider> aspetta qualcuno piu esperto di me [00:44] <guest99> salve a tutti, ho un probl con i flags in gparted [00:44] <guest99> come dovrebbero essere impostati ? [00:46] <guest99> . [07:20] <neramarea> buongiorno a tutti... ilnotebook della mia ragazza continua a dare errori (e a comunicarmi che "è impossibile inviare la segnalazione).io non ne do fuori. qualcuno mi può aiutare? [07:25] <akis24> neramarea: che errori ti da' ? che versione di ubuntu usi ? [09:15] <marcelfrom> Help! Ho scaricato i files di U15.04 sul disco rigido, anche copiati in chiavetta. Che debbo fare per avviare l'istallazione? [09:17] <manuslep> salve [09:20] <marcelfrom> Buongiorno manuslep, puoi aiutarmi? [09:20] <manuslep> avrei un problema, ieri dopo aver finalmente installato ubuntu 15.04 32 bit ho provato la navigazione internet, visto che uso un antennina con chipset realtek rtl8187l volevo testare se funzionasse bene, però internet non va, proprio non carica le pagine, eppure io spunto connesso, il problema in questione non me lo da col pc con windows, ho provat [09:20] <manuslep> o ad installare il driver che è in formato .tar.gz ma non ci riesco, comunque secondo voi l'internet lento è dato dal driver non ancora installato? [09:20] <manuslep> marcelfrom sono un novellino di ubuntu mi dispiace :( [09:21] <manuslep> prova a formulare la tua domanda vedrai che qualcuno ti risponde [09:23] <marcelfrom> Grazie, la mia domanda è già in pending. [09:24] <Carlin0> !usbwin | marcelfrom [09:24] <ubot-it> marcelfrom: Scarica Universal USB Installer: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/ | Installalo su Windows e lancialo: lui si occuperà di trasferire l'immagine ISO su USB. Guida: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows | Opzionalmente questo programma può anche scaricare lui stesso l'immagine ISO [09:25] <Carlin0> !installazione | marcelfrom [09:25] <ubot-it> marcelfrom: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione | Per installazione grafica http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione/Grafica | Si consiglia la visione della guida ufficiale in inglese http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download [09:29] <manuslep> qualcuno sa se il problema delle pagine che non si caricano dipende del driver della scheda di rete? [09:31] <Carlin0> manuslep, se è quella che hai scritto sopra dovrebbe andare outbox , è strano che non vada ne ho una uguale ... ma non capisco molto di wifi [09:32] <manuslep> eppure sull'altro pc mi funziona perfettamente internet... con la stessa scheda wifi [09:32] <Carlin0> manuslep, sempre con ubuntu ? [09:34] <manuslep> no [09:34] <manuslep> windows [09:34] <ExPBoy> eh [09:34] <manuslep> vorrei passare anche con l'altro pc a ubuntu, ho installato quello a 32 bit per provarlo [09:34] <manuslep> in caso avessi certi problemi... [09:34] <ExPBoy> manuslep, ma prima l'hai provato in live? [09:35] <manuslep> no [09:35] <ExPBoy> male [09:35] <manuslep> ho scaricato l'iso e installato direttamente [09:35] <ExPBoy> prima si prova poi se tutto va bene si installa [09:36] <ExPBoy> manuslep, non tutto l'hardware è linuxdigeribile [09:36] <Carlin0> cmq ho una scheda uguale su un pc e va senza mettere mano , è strano che a te non va [09:36] <ExPBoy> sarà altro [09:36] <manuslep> eppure è cosi... internet proprio non va spunto connesso ma le pagine non si caricano [09:36] <Carlin0> po esse , ne capisco poco di wifi ... [09:37] <ExPBoy> controllato i dns? [09:38] <manuslep> non c'ho ancora messo mano, su windows so dove andare ma linux per me è una cosa nuova [09:38] <manuslep> qualche problema di porta? [09:43] <manuslep> e non posso nemmeno aggiornare pacchetti della lingua e tutto il resto... ho le mani legate [09:43] <Carlin0> collega il cavo di rete manuslep [09:44] <marcelfrom> Grazie @ubo-it, proverò con i link che mi hai dato. [11:08] <SALVO999> SALVE [11:26] <b00k3r> giorno [15:10] <io> ho da poco istallato ubuntu e al avvio del pc mi esce una scritta che ritarda lavvio di ubuntu di 6-7 secondi. la scritta dice questo: [15:11] <io> support for cores revisions 0x17 and 0x18 disabled by module param allhwsupport=0. Tryb43.allhwsupport=1 [15:11] <io> potete aiutarmi? [15:25] <Luigi48> salve. Ho scaricato unbuntu 15.04, ho fatto il cd ed ho installato ubuntu sul PC pakard bell 2.2 GHZ e 2 Gb di RAM che funziona con windows 7 home premium. Al termine dell'installazione ho riavviato il Pc come richiesto, E' comparsa la scritta ubuntu in centro e dopo alcuni secondi è comparsa la scritta "Partizionamento del disco selezio [15:25] <Luigi48> nato non riuscito (ad superuser) Questo si è probabilmente verificato perché ci sono troppe partizioni primarie nella tabella delle partizioni" ho cliccato OK per procedere ed è uscita la scritta "Nessul file system di root (ad superuser) Non è definito alcun file system di root correggere questo problema dal menù di partizione". Come posso risolve [15:25] <Luigi48> re questo problema ?. [15:41] <krabador> Luigi48: carica la sessione live di ubuntu, dal disco che hai fatto e torna qui da li , connesso con un cavo LAN, o la wireless se quest'ultima è riconosciuta dalla sessione live [15:57] <greenrider> raga ho un problema [15:57] <greenrider> qualcuno mi puo aiutarE? [15:57] <greenrider> ho installato fancontrol per regolare la velocità delle ventole della cpu ecc ma il servizio attivo mi tiene sempre il 30% della cpu in uso [15:57] <greenrider> esiste un alternativa o un modo per sistemare il problema? [16:25] <cristian_c> greenrider, [16:26] <cristian_c> greenrider, come mai utilizzi fancontrol? [16:53] <CtrlAltCanc> Ciao a tutti, vorrei risolvere un probl che si presenta dopo aver iniziato ll'install di lubuntu [16:54] <CtrlAltCanc> che [16:54] <CtrlAltCanc> volevo installare a fianco di win [16:55] <cristian_c> CtrlAltCanc, chiedi [16:55] <CtrlAltCanc> vi posto la situazione vista con gpart per maggiore chiarezza [16:56] <CtrlAltCanc> http://i.imgur.com/F1okUV0.png [17:00] <CtrlAltCanc> chiedo: come devo procedere per: 1. far ripartire windows o quantomeno rendere possibile l'installazione da pqservice,. 2i flags impostati cosi' sono corretti? Grazie [17:01] <cristian_c> allora [17:03] <krabador> CtrlAltCanc, è mai stato installato lubuntu on quel pc, oppure hai solo toccato le partizioni ? [17:05] <CtrlAltCanc> solo avviato il boot da flash e infatti volevo installarlo per averlo su hdd mantenendo pero' anche win [17:05] <LoZiOoNe> Buongiorno,ho dovuto piallare la partizione di Win7 e dovrei riformattare il pc.Se al posto di Kubuntu volessi provare Arch,ma mantenere i file Utente come mi conviene procedere? [17:06] <krabador> LoZiOoNe, arch ha la sua documentazione [17:07] <flz47655> salve a tutti [17:07] <LoZiOoNe> se salvo una iso del mio s.o. dopo riesco a recuperare i miei dati da reinstallare su arch? [17:07] <flz47655> qualcuno ha un N550JV? [17:07] <krabador> LoZiOoNe, sei un centro assistenza, queste cose dovresti saperle [17:08] <krabador> LoZiOoNe, sono l'abc [17:08] <LoZiOoNe> chiedo solo per sicurezza [17:08] <flz47655> ho dei problemi con un'installazione di Ubuntu su tale pc [17:08] <LoZiOoNe> ci vuole poco a fare danni [17:08] <LoZiOoNe> (come oggi su Win) -.-" [17:09] <akis24> flz47655: dacci i dettagli esponi il problema [17:09] <flz47655> ho aperto un post http://forum.ubuntu-it.org/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=598882 [17:09] <flz47655> però vorrei parlarne live [17:09] <flz47655> sulla chat [17:09] <krabador> LoZiOoNe, se un medico deve chiedere per sicurezza come si prende in mano un bisturi , forse deve cercare un'altro mestiere [17:10] <cristian_c> CtrlAltCanc, ma tu sei AZ? [17:11] <CtrlAltCanc> cristian>ieri come guest [17:12] <flz47655> qualcuno ha avuto esperienze con UEFI? [17:12] <krabador> !uefi | flz47655 [17:12] <ubot-it> flz47655: UEFI è una specifica che definisce una interfaccia software tra un sistema operativo e le piattaforme firmware, è intesa come un sostituto del BIOS. Per informazioni su come impostare e installare Ubuntu su macchine UEFI vedi http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione/UEFI | vedi anche https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI [17:12] <flz47655> si ho letto [17:12] <flz47655> però ho un problema intermittente [17:13] <flz47655> ho installato e aggiornato ubuntu 14.04.2 su hdd esterno [17:13] <flz47655> e quando lo collego all'accensione blocca il pc [17:13] <flz47655> che rimane fermo alla schermata col logo asus [17:13] <flz47655> e inizia a scaldare [17:13] <flz47655> la ventola inizia a fare più rumore [17:14] <flz47655> e non entra nel "menù del bios" [17:14] <flz47655> ne va avanti [17:14] <flz47655> se scollego hdd allora si sblocca [17:14] <flz47655> è ufficialmente sconsigliato installare ubuntu su hdd esterno? [17:15] <krabador> grub , in questa installazione , dove è andato a finire? [17:15] <flz47655> ho installato grub su hdd esterno nella prima partizione [17:16] <flz47655> che è stata formattata uefi [17:16] <flz47655> con flag boot [17:16] <flz47655> ho provato anche a installare grub su tutti i dischi [17:16] <flz47655> e ho ottenuto all'avvio la schermata di selezione del OS [17:17] <flz47655> scegliendo Ubuntu non partiva però [17:17] <flz47655> ACPI PCC PROBE FAILED [17:17] <flz47655> ho fatto tantissime prove [17:17] <flz47655> adesso ho ripristinato su hdd interno del notebook il bootloder di win8 [17:18] <krabador> CtrlAltCanc, per quanto riguarda pqservice, se ci sono problemi con esso , devi ripristinare il bootloader di fabbrica, che non riguarda questo canale. [17:18] <CtrlAltCanc> tra l'altro in fase di installazione avevo specificato a fianco, ma quando poi il sistema indicava che avrebbe formattato anche sda5 mi sono fermato ritornando indietro e la situazione e' quella vi ho postato prima. Come dovrei procedere? I flags sono corretti cosi'? Grazie 1000 [17:19] <krabador> CtrlAltCanc, la voce "installa a fianco", successivamente ti fa selezionare quanto spazio vuoi dedicare all'installazione di ubuntu, ridimensionando non cancellando partizioni presenti [17:20] <CtrlAltCanc> krabador, so pqservice attiene ad un altro, ma intanto per riportare la situazione come era prima di metter lubuntu cosa dovrei fare? [17:21] <CtrlAltCanc> ho l'impressione chu lubuntu mi abbia "sporcato" l'MBR... [17:21] <krabador> no, in quanto non sei arrivato a quella fase [17:21] <krabador> CtrlAltCanc, la procedura di ripristino contenuta dentro pqservice, parte ? [17:22] <krabador> "no, in quanto non sei arrivato a quella fase" ---> non sei arrivato alla fase in cui lubuntu installa grub, che gestisce anche boot di partizioni di ripristino , salvo complicazion i [17:23] <krabador> "<flz47655> ho provato anche a installare grub su tutti i dischi" ? [17:25] <CtrlAltCanc> si, ma cerca un drive E: che non essendoci fa abortire l'installazione. Allora il punto e' prima pqservice andava xche' l'ho reinstallato proprio prima (al posto di deframmentare C:) di installare lubuntu, mentre adesso non va neanche quello [17:26] <CtrlAltCanc> quindi win era "nuovo" [17:26] <CtrlAltCanc> col disco vuoto [17:26] <krabador> CtrlAltCanc, se parte correttamente , puoi imporre il ripristino totale, che comporta un ripartizionamento [17:26] <krabador> CtrlAltCanc, lubuntu non puo' aver fatto quello che dici . [17:27] <flz47655> krabador: ho utlizzato un programma di ripristino di grub [17:27] <flz47655> boot-repair [17:28] <flz47655> tra le opzioni permetteva di installare grub su tutti i dischi [17:28] <CtrlAltCanc> infatti sembra strano anche a me, ma cosa puo' essere successo? E cmq sia i dati ci sono sia in C: che in D: basterebbe ripristinare il boot no? [17:30] <CtrlAltCanc> cosa posso realisticamente fare senza rischiare di perdere i dati in sda5 ? [17:31] <flz47655> vado a cena [17:31] <flz47655> grazie ugualmente a tutti [17:31] <flz47655> ciao [17:32] <CtrlAltCanc> intanto mi potresti dire se i flag adessso sono corretti ? http://i.imgur.com/F1okUV0.png [17:35] <cristian_c> CtrlAltCanc, perché hai portato la sda2 a 27 GB? [17:36] <Livio> salve [17:36] <Livio> qualcuno mi po aiutare ? [17:37] <krabador> Livio, poni direttamente la domanda [17:38] <Livio> allora ...ho instalato ubuntu 15.04 su windows 7 [17:38] <Livio> tutto e andato a buon fine [17:38] <krabador> "su windows7" ---> dentro? [17:38] <CtrlAltCanc> perche' riprtizionato non si avviava + win ed allora ho pensato che la dimensione che il file system si aspettasse fosse quella prima del ridimensionamento quindi l'ho riportata alla dim originaria ma evidentemente non e' bastato perche' adesso win non parte mentre tutti i files si vedono con il filemanager di ubuntu [17:38] <Livio> problema e k non mi parte il bot di avio [17:39] <Livio> no ... [17:39] <cristian_c> CtrlAltCanc, se avevi quattro partizioni primarie non potevi installare lubuntu [17:39] <Livio> ho cancelato windows 7 [17:39] <Livio> e rimasto solo ubuntu [17:39] <cristian_c> CtrlAltCanc, si possono creare massimo quattro partizioni primarie [17:40] <cristian_c> CtrlAltCanc, sda2 era xp? [17:40] <CtrlAltCanc> no, erano 2 e 1 estesa [17:40] <CtrlAltCanc> sda xp, corretto [17:40] <CtrlAltCanc> sda2 [17:41] <cristian_c> CtrlAltCanc, in ogni caso, visto che ho notato che ubuntu non ti interessa tanto per quel che ci devi fare (hai detto che compili programmi per windows), ti cnviene prendere il disco di xp e utilizzare tale sistema operativo [17:43] <cristian_c> *conviene [17:43] <krabador> Livio, come hai cancellato win? [17:44] <Livio> all'instalazione era l'opzione di instalare ubuntu insieme all'2windous o pure cancelarlo [17:44] <CtrlAltCanc> non e' proprio che non mi interessi vorrei almeno provarlo prima di decidere, cmq adsso a meno che l'hdd non si sia danneggiato PROPRIO nel momento che stavo installando ubuntu mi sembra di capire che qlc sia successo al file system visto che adesso fa il boot e sia riavvia subito [17:45] <CtrlAltCanc> *si riavvia [17:45] <krabador> !grub | Livio [17:45] <ubot-it> Livio: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/AmministrazioneSistema/Grub/ | Per ripristinare Grub: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/AmministrazioneSistema/Grub/Ripristino [17:45] <krabador> Livio, segui la guida del ripristino [17:46] <Livio> ho gia fatto [17:47] <Livio> mi parte solo con il cd di instalazione .... [17:47] <Livio> e non sempre [17:49] <krabador> Livio, toglilo [17:49] <krabador> hai imposto il boot da hd ? [17:49] <CtrlAltCanc> cmq una cosa alla volta: intanto i flag sono a posto (lba, diag, boot) o devo cambiare qcs? poi se riparto cd esterno eventuali settaggi "sbagliati" impostati da gparted vengono tutti resettati? [17:50] <Livio> si ho tolto il cd [17:50] <Livio> ho repristinato [17:50] <Livio> ho selectato il bot [17:50] <Livio> adesso e partito [17:51] <Livio> provo di riaviarlo .... [17:52] <Livio> niente [17:52] <CtrlAltCanc> ? [17:52] <Livio> non si avia ... [17:53] <Livio> devo repristinarlo ogni volta k accendo il compì [17:53] <krabador> Livio, non fraintendere la mia domanda, ma se non sei italiano , ci sono canali irc ubuntu in varie lingue [17:54] <CtrlAltCanc> allora riprovo a riavviare, se magari vi viene in mente qlc dopo ritorno qui ok? [17:57] <Livio> krabador ...avevo solo biz di aiuto .... cmq ...grazie lo stesso [17:57] <krabador> non ti sto cacciando [17:58] <Geno2598> Buongiorno, ho un problema con l'installazione di Ubuntu. Ora sono su windows ed ho aperto EaseUs partition Master per creare una partizione primaria. il problema è: ci sono già 2 partizioni primarie, una di windows e una riservata per il sistema. Ho creato una terza partizione primaria ma al momento dell'installazione da errore, in quanto ci sono [17:58] <Geno2598> 3 partizioni. la mia domanda è: posso installare ubunto su una partizione logica? [17:59] <krabador> Geno2598, puoi caricare ubuntu in live, e caricare il gestore partizioni+ [18:01] <Geno2598> ho già provato a masterizzare ubuntu su cd e usb ma non si avvia dal bios.... stranissimo, è la prima volta.... quindi ho deciso di installarlo come applicazione classica in windows. come faccio a caricarlo in live? [18:02] <cristian_c> Geno2598, se hai usato wine, non va bene [18:03] <cristian_c> Geno2598, puoi dirci su quale pc stai tentando di lanciare ubuntu? [18:03] <cristian_c> *se hai usato wubi [18:03] <Geno2598> HP dv6-1328sl [18:04] <Geno2598> riprovo allora senza wubi [18:04] <cristian_c> sembra un bios normalissimo [18:05] <cristian_c> Geno2598, allora [18:05] <cristian_c> quale file .iso hai scaricato? [18:06] <cristian_c> Geno2598, hai controllato l'hash del file .iso, prima di masterizzarlo? [18:13] <anna_alle_prime_> ciao [18:13] <anna_alle_prime_> qui si può parlare di assistenza ubuntu? [18:13] <cristian_c> !chiedi [18:13] <ubot-it> per cortesia non chiedere il permesso di chiedere, semplicemente formula la domanda (tutta su una riga, in modo tale che gli altri possano leggerla e seguirla con facilità). Se qualcuno conosce la risposta ti risponderà :-) [18:14] <anna_alle_prime_> ok. Ho un mega database su access e vorrei importarlo su ubuntu. Non mi interessa importare le query, ma solo la tabella. Come devo fare? [18:15] <cristian_c> anna_alle_prime_, c'è un problema [18:15] <cristian_c> i database di ms office non sono molto compatibili con il resto del mondo [18:15] <anna_alle_prime_> sentiamo [18:15] <anna_alle_prime_> quindi perdo tutti i file? [18:15] <anna_alle_prime_> i dati? [18:15] <cristian_c> beh, no [18:15] <cristian_c> 1) o continui a lavorare su access [18:15] <anna_alle_prime_> no possible [18:16] <anna_alle_prime_> vediamo la 2) [18:16] <cristian_c> 2) o li sposti su formati compatibili [18:16] <anna_alle_prime_> tipo? [18:16] <cristian_c> c'è anche una terza possibilità che però è un terno al lotto, e di certo non basta, non è la panacea [18:16] <anna_alle_prime_> vediamo la 2 [18:16] <anna_alle_prime_> spiega meglio la 2 [18:16] <anna_alle_prime_> please [18:17] <anna_alle_prime_> ci sei? [18:18] <anna_alle_prime_> rimasta appesa [18:18] <anna_alle_prime_> chi mi aiuta [18:18] <anna_alle_prime_> aiutoooooo [18:18] <JethroTux> anna_alle_prime_, dai un'occhiata a http://www.kexi-project.org/ [18:18] <anna_alle_prime_> scusate [18:19] <anna_alle_prime_> ma se copio la tabella e la incollo su access [18:19] <anna_alle_prime_> ho i file della tabella in fromato excell e poi posso aprire con Libreoffice calc [18:19] <anna_alle_prime_> giusto no? [18:19] <cristian_c> JethroTux, quel link? [18:19] <cristian_c> cosa c'entra col supporto? [18:20] <cristian_c> tra l'altro si parla di un'alternativa [18:20] <krabador> !chat | JethroTux [18:20] <ubot-it> JethroTux: per qualsiasi argomento non inerente strettamente il supporto a ubuntu, /join #ubuntu-it-chat [18:20] <krabador> !chat | anna_alle_prime_ [18:20] <ubot-it> anna_alle_prime_: per qualsiasi argomento non inerente strettamente il supporto a ubuntu, /join #ubuntu-it-chat [18:20] <anna_alle_prime_> allora [18:20] <anna_alle_prime_> io voglio solamente che mi si dica quale software usare [18:21] <anna_alle_prime_> tutto uqa [18:21] <anna_alle_prime_> qua [18:21] <anna_alle_prime_> quale software usare e dove trovarlo [18:21] <anna_alle_prime_> chi me lo dice? [18:22] <anna_alle_prime_> grazie. Me ne vado che ne so meno di prima [18:22] <anna_alle_prime_> bella comunità questa [18:22] <krabador> anna_alle_prime_, non è un match a rubabandiera, in questo canale si fa supporto tecnico al sistema, per discussioni su esigenze software varie c'è l'altro canale [18:22] <anna_alle_prime_> quale è? [18:23] <krabador> !chat | anna_alle_prime_ [18:23] <ubot-it> anna_alle_prime_: per qualsiasi argomento non inerente strettamente il supporto a ubuntu, /join #ubuntu-it-chat [18:38] <Geno2598> scusate, ho avuto un po di problemi di connessione.... 15.04 dal sito ufficiale 6 [18:38] <Geno2598> 64 bit [18:38] <Geno2598> tramite torrent  Geno2598, hai controllato l'hash del file .iso, prima di masterizzarlo? [18:39] <krabador> !usbwin | Geno2598 [18:39] <ubot-it> Geno2598: Scarica Universal USB Installer: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/ | Installalo su Windows e lancialo: lui si occuperà di trasferire l'immagine ISO su USB. Guida: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows | Opzionalmente questo programma può anche scaricare lui stesso l'immagine ISO [18:39] <krabador> controlla l'hash, se corrisponde usa questo software per fare la pendrive [18:39] <Geno2598> ok grazie [18:39] <krabador> mandala in boot, se il pc supporta il boot da usb [18:40] <krabador> altrimenti masterizza su disco [18:43] <matt-to> ciao a tutti [18:43] <matt-to> ho problema ad installare la 15.04 [18:44] <matt-to> scaricata, creato dvd, quando procedo al riavvio parte Cd Ubuntu [18:45] <matt-to> schermata viola coi punti che scorrono....dopo un paio di minuti i puntini si fermano [18:45] <matt-to> e si blocca tutto [18:45] <matt-to> e devo spegnere Pc per riprenderne il controllo [18:46] <CtrlAltCanc> rieccomi di nuovo, bene adesso so cos'e' successo! [18:47] <CtrlAltCanc> il problema adesso e' far ritornare a posto l'mbr [18:47] <krabador> matt-to, allora, quando fai partire , hai questa http://i.stack.imgur.com/GtEi5.png ? [18:47] <matt-to> krabador [18:47] <matt-to> si [18:48] <krabador> matt-to, allora, esattamente in quel punto, devi essere rapido [18:48] <krabador> premi un tasto freccia [18:48] <krabador> avrai un menu [18:48] <krabador> premi f2 scegli italiano [18:48] <krabador> premi f6 scegli nomodeset [18:48] <krabador> e selezioni la prima voce in alto "prova ubuntu senza installare" [18:50] <matt-to> krabador .. nei vari tentativi ero già arrivato ad elenco lingue....avevo lasciato Inglese...dato invio...arrivato a menu con scelta installazione o prova senza install....selezionato Prova Ubuntu senza install...ma anche li stessa storia...si blocca ai puntini che scorrono  premi f2 scegli italiano  premi f6 scegli nomodeset [18:51] <matt-to> ah ok....provo Grazie! [18:52] <CtrlAltCanc> scusate c'e' modo di ripristinare il record di avvio di c: [18:53] <krabador> CtrlAltCanc, come da prima segnalato, ripristinare mbr acer, non riguarda questo canale [18:53] <krabador> ma la rete assistenza acer [18:55] <CtrlAltCanc> che mi dice: hai installato ubuntu? bene adesso chiedi a loro... [18:56] <CtrlAltCanc> e non hanno neanche tutti i torti visto visto che il problema e' stato creato da qst sw [18:57] <CtrlAltCanc> quindi chiedo gparted e' argomento di qst canale? se si i flag che vi postato prima sono okay? almeno questo, grazie [18:59] <Matt-to> Rieccomi [18:59] <Matt-to> Fatto procedimento f2 ita e poi f6 nomodeset [18:59] <krabador> CtrlAltCanc, non è assolutamente vero che è stato causato da questo software [18:59] <Matt-to> Schermata viola con scritta ubuntu 15.04 [19:00] <krabador> CtrlAltCanc, ma manovre del tutto arbitrarie da parte tua, con tue interpretazioni del suo uso [19:00] <Matt-to> Puntini nuovamente bloccati [19:00] <krabador> CtrlAltCanc, senza un'installazione il bootloader non viente toccato [19:01] <krabador> Matt-to, nello stesso punto, dopo aver selezionato nomodeset, cancella le parole quiet splash, che compaiono in basso [19:02] <Matt-to> Provo...altro? [19:02] <Matt-to> Sto rebootando manualy [19:04] <krabador> "<CtrlAltCanc> che mi dice: hai installato ubuntu? bene adesso chiedi a loro..." e non è assolutamente vero anche questo , visto che al massimo potrebbero farti corrispondere una tariffa di intervento , sia in garanzia che non. [19:08] <Matt-to> Krabador...è venuto elenco [19:08] <Matt-to> Si è bloccato a scritta [19:08] <Matt-to> Lvm2-monitor.service [19:09] <krabador> Matt-to, puoi elencare cpu , ram e scheda video, con modelli precisi, di questo pc? [19:14] <Matt-to> Portatile Acer extensa5630z ...cpu intel pent dual cpu t3400 2.16ghz...ram 2 gb...32 bit...sched video Mobile intel 4 series express chipset family [19:17] <Matt-to> Schede rete wifi atheros ar5b91 [19:17] <Matt-to> Scheda Broadcom netxtreme gigabit ethernet [19:17] <Matt-to> .... [19:17] <Matt-to> Altro? [19:18] <CtrlAltCanc> beh, krabador come fai a dirlo? mgari fosse vero! sarei il primo ad essere contento. credi che mi faccia piacere avere il disco con il file system in questa situazione? non capisco perche' ti ostini a difendere il programma di installazione... [19:18] <krabador> CtrlAltCanc, perchè non fa quello che stai sostenendo. [19:19] <CtrlAltCanc> Allora senti, ho fatto le prove. Succede questo fail il BOOT windows alt-F10 entri in pqservice. la cui partizione viene vista come c: mentre il vero c: diventa e: (se vuoi ti posto la lista dei drive montati) poi il programma cerca e: per installare win e non lo trova allora l'ho bloccato e sono manualmente a vedere cos'ha davvero E: [19:20] <krabador> se entri in pqservice, non serve neanche ripristinare il bootloader. [19:20] <CtrlAltCanc> pensavo anch'io [19:20] <CtrlAltCanc> e invece asp [19:27] <Matt-to> Krabador...hai potuto leggere sopra i dati? Grazie [19:28] <Matt-to> Vedi problemi hw? [19:28] <CtrlAltCanc> allora Il messaggio e' "Invalid media type reading drive E " ma dato che si tratta della partizione primaria cioe' c: dove avevo tentato di mettere ubuntu come posso pensare che ubuntu non centri nulla? E tanto e' vero che l' mbr me l'ha rovinato al punto tale che non posso installare nulla fino a che non lo rimetto a posto! Naturalmente tu p [19:28] <CtrlAltCanc> otresti di rmi che si e' rotto il disco. E ho pensato anche a questo allora sono entrato in filemanager di ubuntu e vedo regolarmente C: con i file dentro . Li ho aperti e li vedo. Quindi se il disco fosse rotto non vedrei neppure i files . L'unica cosa, ripeto, che mi serve e' sapere come ripristinare i record di avvio ripercorrendo all' indi [19:28] <CtrlAltCanc> etro cio' che ha provocato questa cosa [19:30] <Daygrie> Vi potrei chiedere una cosa? [19:31] <pegaso> buonasera ragazzi avrei bisogno di un aiuto, qualcuno è disponibile? [19:31] <CtrlAltCanc> e dato che su ubuntu non mi sento sicuro di muovermi come a Redmond, chiedevo a voi... [19:32] <krabador> CtrlAltCanc, io non faccio previsioni su quello che la gente potrebbe dire, mi limito a leggerlo . CtrlAltCanc una volta per tutte, per come hai descritto il tuo operato , il programma di installazione non è mai arrivato a toccare il mbr, che , partendo pqservice, non è stato toccato. Se credi di avere problemi con il suo funziuonamento ., rivolgiti all'assistenza acer, qui dentro è offtopic [19:33] <Daygrie> Quando installo Ubuntu mi esce l'errore SYSLINUX 6.0.3 EDD ecc.... come risolvo?Grazie [19:33] <Daygrie> Gia lo avevo su un altro pc Ubuntu ma li non mi era uscito questo errore [19:33] <pegaso> vi spiego brevemente, quando metto in sospensione il netbook, al riavvio mi chiede come di norma la password e quando si riavvia tutto normalmente, dopo pochi secondi si rimette da solo in sospensione.Devo quindi premere il tasto di accensione e magicamente si riavvia normalmente come se niente fosse [19:34] <cristian_c> Daygrie, aspetts [19:34] <Daygrie> grazie [19:34] <Daygrie> Ok [19:34] <Daygrie> Ok [19:35] <cristian_c> pegaso, intendi che va in sospensione da solo dopo il ripristino dalla sospnesione? [19:36] <pegaso> si si [19:36] <pegaso> e per ripristinarlo devo necessariamente premere il pulsante di avvio [19:36] <cristian_c> uhm [19:36] <cristian_c> pegaso, quale netbook? Quale ubuntu? [19:36] <cristian_c> Daygrie, puoi postare una schermata dell'errore? [19:37] <cristian_c> Daygrie, inoltre, puoi contestualizzare il problema? [19:37] <Matt-to> Qualcuno può darmi aiuto? [19:37] <cristian_c> !dettagli | Daygrie [19:37] <ubot-it> Daygrie: Per favore dacci dettagli completi. Per esempio "Ho un problema con..., sto usando Ubuntu versione... con interfaccia.... Quando provo a fare..., ottengo questo output: ..., ma mi sarei aspettato che facesse..." [19:37] <pegaso> 12.04 asus seashell [19:37] <cristian_c> !qualcuno | Matt-to [19:37] <ubot-it> Matt-to: la maggior parte delle prime domande fatte in questo canale è del tipo «qualcuno puo' aiutarmi/qualcuno ha tempo/qualcuno usa...?». Fate la vostra domanda tecnica e se qualcuno sa, rispondera' [19:37] <pegaso> si avete ragione, scusate [19:37] <CtrlAltCanc> krabador, non e' per niente off topic chiedere se esiste un programma in ambiente linux che ripristini l'mbr di un hard disk . Se non mi sai rispondere non occorre mandarmi a fare un giro all'assistenza Acer, perche' la domanda che ho a te riguarda ubuntu/linux [19:37] <cristian_c> pegaso, seashell? [19:37] <pegaso> si [19:38] <cristian_c> pegaso, sicuro questo sia il nome corretto del pc? [19:38] <Matt-to> Si è bloccato a scritta [19:38] <Matt-to> Lvm2-monitor.service [19:38] <CtrlAltCanc> *che ho fatto a te e al gruppo * [19:38] <cristian_c> Matt-to, prego? [19:38] <Daygrie> Allora stavo installando Ubuntu 14.10, quindi riavvio il pc con la chiavetta avviabile ma mi esce uno schermo tutto nero con questo codice:SYSLINUX 4.06 EDD 4.06-pre7 Copyright (C) 1994-2012 H. Peter Anvin et al. [19:38] <Matt-to> Installazione [19:38] <cristian_c> Matt-to, puoi descrivere chiaramente il problema? [19:39] <pegaso> 1015cx asus [19:39] <Matt-to> Si blocca schermata viola con puntini [19:39] <cristian_c> Daygrie, installando o avviando da live? [19:39] <cristian_c> pegaso, ok [19:39] <Daygrie> Installando [19:39] <Matt-to> Installaz con dvd [19:39] <cristian_c> pegaso, hai provato con una 15.04 o una 14.04? [19:39] <cristian_c> se il problema persiste [19:39] <Matt-to> Io 15.04  Matt-to, puoi descrivere chiaramente il problema? [19:40] <pegaso> ho provato ma mi ha dato diversi problemi tant'è che ho deciso di ritornare sulla 12.04 nuovamente [19:40] <Matt-to> Installaz ubuntu 15.04 con dvd [19:40] <cristian_c> Daygrie, quindi avvii tranquillamente da live? [19:40] <cristian_c> pegaso, che tipo di problemi? [19:40] <Matt-to> Si blocca a schermo viola con puntini [19:40] <cristian_c> pegaso, con unity? [19:40] <pegaso> si [19:41] <Matt-to> Mi qvevano consigliato di fare f2 itlaiano e f6 nomodeset [19:41] <Daygrie> Si ma se lo faccio mi esce che non puo essere avviato da live perchè ci sono troppi SO nella partizione primaria (2) [19:41] <pegaso> non andava proprio, e dalla disperazione sono passato alla vecchia versione [19:41] <cristian_c> pegaso, quanta ram? [19:41] <Daygrie> Se uso il DVD cambia qualcosa? [19:41] <cristian_c> pegaso, non pensi che per quel pc sia meglio Xubuntu o Lubuntu? [19:41] <Matt-to> Cancellando quiel splash [19:41] <cristian_c> Matt-to, intendi che non riesci ad avviare il supporto? [19:42] <Daygrie> Esatto [19:42] <cristian_c> Matt-to, di quale pc parliamo? [19:42] <Matt-to> Portatile acer extensa 5630z  Si ma se lo faccio mi esce che non puo essere avviato da live perchè ci sono troppi SO nella partizione primaria (2) [19:42] <cristian_c> stai confondendo [19:42] <pegaso> 12.04 è sempre stato il sistema orginario [19:42] <cristian_c> una cosa è l'avvio, un'altra è l'installazion e [19:42] <cristian_c> Matt-to, ok [19:43] <Matt-to> Ok [19:43] <pegaso> mi sono sempre trovato bene ad essere sincero e problemi pochissimi, a parte questa cosa strana ora [19:43] <Daygrie> Io intendo che appena provo ad installarlo mi esce il codice:SYSLINUX 4.06 EDD 4.06-pre7 Copyright (C) 1994-2012 H. Peter Anvin et al [19:43] <Matt-to> Arrivato a dare prova ubuntu senza installare [19:43] <pegaso> fastidiosa per carità ma non grave [19:43] <Matt-to> Ma sempre blocco a puntini fermi [19:43] <cristian_c> pegaso, sì, ok, ma finirà il supporto alla 12.04, è in giro da tre anni [19:44] <cristian_c> Daygrie, ma in quale punto esce il messaggio [19:44] <cristian_c> Daygrie, puoi postare una schermata con l'errore? [19:44] <pegaso> e non saprei però se dalle prestazioni del mio pc sarà supportato un altro sistema [19:44] <Daygrie> All'inizio appena riavvio il pc, [19:44] <cristian_c> !rilasci | pegaso [19:44] <ubot-it> pegaso: Scalette di rilascio: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Rilasci | Cicli di vita delle versioni: http://www.ubuntu-it.org/progetto/rilasci [19:44] <cristian_c> Daygrie, quindi è già installato? [19:45] <cristian_c> Daygrie, non ho capito se hai mai avviato una live? [19:45] <cristian_c> *. [19:45] <JethroTux> pegaso, dovresti postare il contenuto di /etc/systemd/logind.conf [19:45] <Daygrie> Si. [19:45] <Daygrie> Forse hio capito come fare [19:45] <cristian_c> JethroTux, e cosa c'entra questo? [19:45] <cristian_c> con il problema della sospensione [19:46] <JethroTux> c'entra eccome [19:46] <cristian_c> JethroTux, hai letto che ha una 12.04? [19:46] <JethroTux> è un file parte integrante di acpi  JethroTux, hai letto che ha una 12.04? [19:46] <JethroTux> avevo lo stesso problema anch'io [19:46] <CtrlAltCanc> e poi scusa il programma di installazione come fai a dire a dire che con tocca il file system se e' stata ridimensionata la partizione? Qualcosa avra' fatto sul file system visto che da una da 26 ne sono uscite due (15 e 11) [19:47] <cristian_c> JethroTux, non hai risposto alla domanda [19:47] <JethroTux> no mi era sfuggito in effetti [19:47] <Matt-to> .cristian.c . Sai come potrei risolvere? [19:48] <cristian_c> Matt-to, è Intel Core Duo T3400? [19:48] <cristian_c> giusto? [19:48] <Matt-to> Si [19:48] <cristian_c> con 2 GB di ram [19:48] <Matt-to> Si [19:48] <Matt-to> Esatto [19:48] <cristian_c> non è proprio nuovissimo [19:48] <cristian_c> anzi [19:49] <Matt-to> No [19:49] <Matt-to> Dici che nn cr la fa? [19:49] <cristian_c> Matt-to, ti avevano dato dei consigli qui? [19:49] <Matt-to> Si  Cancellando quiel splash [19:50] <Matt-to> Si [19:50] <cristian_c> Matt-to, e al posto dei puntini cos'appare? [19:50] <Matt-to> Da lista che scorre e si blocca su video [19:50] <CtrlAltCanc> vabbe' krabador se ne andato, cristan lo chiedo a te: esiste un programma SERIO che analizzi/metta a posto il file system in ambiente linux? [19:50] <cristian_c> Matt-to, puoi postare una foto? [19:51] <cristian_c> CtrlAltCanc, quale filesystem? [19:51] <Matt-to> Lvm2-monitor.service [19:51] <cristian_c> !image | Matt-to [19:51] <ubot-it> Matt-to: Carica un'immagine su https://imgur.com/ | http://imageshack.us/ (richiede registrazione) e metti un collegamento ad essa in canale. [19:52] <Matt-to> Nn riesco sono da cell [19:52] <Matt-to> Il pc sto ritentando [19:52] <cristian_c> Matt-to, comunque, per intenderci, hai problemi nell'avvio del supporto live della 15.04, giusto? [19:52] <Matt-to> Si [19:52] <CtrlAltCanc> in gparted sembra tuto a posto ma non lo e' quindi devo analizzare che cosa e' successo e lo posso fare da qui (ubuntu) visto che sia avvia solo questo [19:52] <cristian_c> Matt-to, non puoi fare una foto col cellulare? [19:52] <Matt-to> Dvd x vers desktop [19:53] <cristian_c> CtrlAltCanc, se non rispondi alle domande, si parla di aria fritta [19:53] <Matt-to> Provo [19:54] <CtrlAltCanc> ti ho anche postato la situazione, cosa ti serve sapere in +? [19:54] <cristian_c> CtrlAltCanc, scorri qualche riga in su nel log e troverai la mia domanda [19:56] <CtrlAltCanc> si vedo che ti amenti spesso che i tuoi interlocutori non rispondono alle tue domande. Neppure tu hai risposto alle mie! Prova a scorrere indietro [19:57] <CtrlAltCanc> "lamenti" [19:57] <Carlin0> CtrlAltCanc, ma quello che chiede aiuto sei tu eh ... inoltre cristian_c sta seguendo più persone [20:00] <Matt-to> Rieccomi [20:00] <Matt-to> https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-SjpLHrYgvTI/VX3cxCtRTEI/AAAAAAAAFoE/-7xPRnqtd_Y/w1060-h1414-p-rw/15%2B-%2B1 [20:00] <CtrlAltCanc> ciao carlin, si lo so ma guarda che e' un pezzo che l'ho chiesto e per uno che conosce ubuntu non credo fosse molte difficile rispondermi se i flag in gparted sono a posto come gli ho messi , no? [20:00] <Matt-to> Ecco dove si è piantato [20:00] <Matt-to> Cristian-c [20:03] <CtrlAltCanc> carlin0, mi sembra ch s [20:03] <CtrlAltCanc> carlin0, mi sembra che mi stai facendo pesare che faccio delle domande o mi sbaglio? [20:08] <JethroTux> CtrlAltCanc, man fsck [20:09] <JethroTux> supporta i filesystem + utilizzati, tu quale devi analizzare? [20:10] <CtrlAltCanc> grazie JethroTux ti posto la videata col problema [20:11] <CtrlAltCanc> http://i.imgur.com/F1okUV0.png [20:14] <CtrlAltCanc> nel frattempo ho verificato il motivo del mancato funzionamento di pqservice. Non trova il disco E: (sarebbe C: visto dal programma di installazione) [20:14] <CtrlAltCanc> quindi [20:14] <CtrlAltCanc> da ubuntu vedo c: [20:14] <CtrlAltCanc> con i file dentro e li apro pure [20:14] <CtrlAltCanc> percio' [20:15] <gigirock> ma cosa e' pqservice ? [20:15] <CtrlAltCanc> devo controllare cosa e' successo a sda2 [20:17] <CtrlAltCanc> ciao gigi, pqservice e' la partizione dl disco che ospita il setup di windows in alcuni portatili. [20:17] <gigirock> CtrlAltCanc, ma il disco e' ide o sata ? [20:17] <CtrlAltCanc> ide [20:18] <CtrlAltCanc> anzi scsi2 [20:18] <gigirock> seee [20:18] <CtrlAltCanc> cmq e un fat32 [20:18] <JethroTux> ma la partizione con ubuntu qual'? [20:18] <JethroTux> qual'è [20:19] <gigirock> e c'e' xp che notoriamente vuole essere la prima partizione della risma [20:19] <CtrlAltCanc> me l-ha detto il test di lubuntu :) [20:19] <CtrlAltCanc> la sda2 [20:19] <CtrlAltCanc> http://i.imgur.com/F1okUV0.png [20:20] <gigirock> CtrlAltCanc, ma al momento ubu funziona ma non avvia xp ? [20:20] <CtrlAltCanc> Succede questo fail il BOOT windows alt-F10 entri in pqservice. la cui partizione viene vista come c: mentre il vero c: diventa e: (se vuoi ti posto la lista dei drive montati) poi il programma cerca e: per installare win e non lo trova allora l'ho bloccato e sono manualmente a vedere cos'ha E: allora Il messaggio e' "Invalid media type reading [20:20] <CtrlAltCanc> drive [20:21] <gigirock> CtrlAltCanc, i device win vengono nominati in sequenza senza controllo ... fai assign d: = e: e via [20:22] <gigirock> CtrlAltCanc, alt f-10 lancia il dos o il windows ? [20:22] <CtrlAltCanc> lancia un dos [20:22] <CtrlAltCanc> in realta' non e' un dos completo [20:22] <gigirock> e allora figurati se riconosce una partizione diversa.... [20:23] <CtrlAltCanc> sarebbe win 98 [20:23] <CtrlAltCanc> poi si aggoirna e diventa xp service pack2 [20:23] <gigirock> CtrlAltCanc, una situazione contorta [20:24] <CtrlAltCanc> ma funzionava perfettamente, momento prima di mettere ubuntu [20:24] <CtrlAltCanc> e lo so [20:24] <CtrlAltCanc> allora chiedo intanto i flag sono a posto? [20:24] <CtrlAltCanc> in gparted [20:24] <gigirock> CtrlAltCanc, cmq e' solo la questione di mappare i drive e spostare la partizione di xp 'prima' di quella ubu [20:24] <CtrlAltCanc> boot diag ecc? [20:25] <gigirock> quando la d: viene chiamata per bootare deve 'jumpare' alla c: [20:25] <CtrlAltCanc> mmh si e no... asp [20:25] <CtrlAltCanc> allora [20:25] <CtrlAltCanc> succede qst [20:28] <gigirock> ma come fa a partire lubu se sda2 monta /media/acer etc etc ? [20:30] <CtrlAltCanc> avvi da fa il boot premi alt f10 ed entri nella partizione pqservice che e' disponibile come c: a questo punto il programma deve installare sul drive e: che e' gia' mappato se lo rimappo non risolvo (avevo pensato anch'io cosi) perche' se poi vado a scrvere sulla nuova lettera dicamo l'errore invalid mi compare ancora. Infatti non e' che non tr [20:30] <CtrlAltCanc> ova il disco, lo trova ma lo vede con un errore tale che non puo' andare a scriverci [20:30] <CtrlAltCanc> "avvi da win" [20:31] <CtrlAltCanc> dovrei prima correggere l'errore e poi il programma potrebbe ripartire [20:31] <gigirock> CtrlAltCanc, ma il menu di grub non appare per niente ? [20:32] <CtrlAltCanc> no mi son fermato prima, allora ti spiego bene dall'inizio [20:33] <CtrlAltCanc> hdd con win su c: e d: solo dati [20:33] <CtrlAltCanc> uso lubuntu su flash usb [20:33] <CtrlAltCanc> tutto ok [20:34] <CtrlAltCanc> decido di installare da flash su c: [20:34] <CtrlAltCanc> per vedere un po' meglio come va lubuntu [20:34] <CtrlAltCanc> lancio install e scelgo a fianco di win [20:35] <CtrlAltCanc> mi propone 2 partizioni che hai visto nel link [20:35] <CtrlAltCanc> 16 e 11 circa [20:35] <CtrlAltCanc> gb [20:36] <gigirock> CtrlAltCanc, ma a questo punto tu vuoi avviare o installare win ? [20:36] <CtrlAltCanc> confermo e prosegue [20:36] <CtrlAltCanc> poi mi chiede di formattare anche sda5 [20:36] <CtrlAltCanc> e li' ho bloccato tutto perche' avevo dati [20:36] <CtrlAltCanc> quindi [20:37] <CtrlAltCanc> sono ritornato inditro con i tasti indietro [20:37] <CtrlAltCanc> fino al menu di partenza [20:38] <CtrlAltCanc> mi aspettavo visto che ci ha messo un po' che avesse ripristinato la artizione con le dim orig [20:38] <CtrlAltCanc> e invece il disco era come lo vedi [20:38] <CtrlAltCanc> con 11 gb non utilizzati [20:39] <CtrlAltCanc> allora gparted e ho ridim manualmente [20:40] <CtrlAltCanc> sono rirnati i gn di partenza ma win non si avvia (per inciso non si avviava neanche quando avevo la partiz 16 e 11) [20:40] <CtrlAltCanc> i gb [20:40] <CtrlAltCanc> quindi penso che [20:41] <CtrlAltCanc> il programma di install abbia daneggiato in qualche modo l'mbr [20:41] <CtrlAltCanc> visto che prima win andava [20:41] <gigirock> CtrlAltCanc, per me e' solo una questione della sequenza delle partizioni ... la prima deve essere pq la seconda xp, poi i 'dati' poi ubu , il grub va sul device che fara' partire tutto non fare le estese che fai solo confusione [20:42] <gigirock> sicuramente la mbr e' stata modificata ma ci vuole il programma win apposito per sistemare [20:43] <CtrlAltCanc> quindi non con un prog su linux, perche' al momento e' l'unico che parte [20:43] <gigirock> CtrlAltCanc, io per quei pasticci uso http://www.hiren.info/pages/bootcd ma adesso mi bannano perche' e' un link fuori regola :) [20:45] <CtrlAltCanc> grazie 1000 :) ma poi cosa sara' tutta qst rigidita'? Si open source e non siamo liberi ? [20:46] <gigirock> CtrlAltCanc, qui siamo in supporto solo link ubu compatibili [20:48] <CtrlAltCanc> ok scherzi a parte, secondo te un fdisk sotto win mi elimina completamente eventuali settagli "sbagliati" di gparted o e' meglio che prima risistemi nell'ambiente da dove si e' originato il probl? [20:48] <CtrlAltCanc> "settaggi" [20:49] <gigirock> da un programma win devi dare chkdsk cosi si sistema la geometria e la dimensione.. poi con il gparted del win sistemi i mappaggi... [20:50] <gigirock> ma non e' che c'e' una sola soluzione al tuo problema ci sono diversi problemi mixati tra loro [20:50] <gigirock> osmc [20:50] <gigirock> !ops [20:50] <ubot-it> Usate solo in caso di emergenza nel canale! twilight remix_tj jester- glpiana filo1234 Odo K99Brain fabio_cc enzotib OverMe [20:52] <CtrlAltCanc> e senti se provassi intanto ad esaminare con fsck [20:52] <CtrlAltCanc> solo guardare [20:52] <Carlin0> !info fsck [20:52] <ubot-it> Package fsck does not exist in trusty [20:52] <gigirock> lol [20:53] <Carlin0> 'namo bene [20:54] <cristian_c> gigirock, ? [20:54] <gigirock> qu ie ? [20:55] <gigirock> cia cristian_c , dimmi di qui o di la ?  ciao carlin, si lo so ma guarda che e' un pezzo che l'ho chiesto e per uno che conosce ubuntu non credo fosse molte difficile rispondermi se i flag in gparted sono a posto come gli ho messi , no? [20:56] <Carlin0> mo sta a vedere che è colpa mia [20:56] <cristian_c> CtrlAltCanc, ti avevo già detto che con 4 partizioni primarie non puoi installare il sistema, i flag sono una cosa diversa [20:57] <CtrlAltCanc> cristian la domanda non questa [21:03] <Carlin0> !paga | CtrlAltCanc [21:03] <ubot-it> CtrlAltCanc: se il supporto volontario non ti è stato di aiuto sappi che Canonical, casamadre ubuntu, offre un servizio h24 di assistenza a pagamento: http://www.ubuntu.com/management , siamo sicuri che potrai avere tutto l'aiuto tecnico necessario, offrendo inoltre sostentamento ad Ubuntu! [21:05] <CtrlAltCanc> quindi e' un sistema operatevo free con assistenza a pagamento? [21:09] <CtrlAltCanc> cristian pero' non sono 4 partizioni [21:10] <CtrlAltCanc> a meno che le viste logiche non le consideri partizioni [21:11] <cristian_c> l'extended è una partizione primaria [21:11] <cristian_c> no, hai ragione, sono tre [21:12] <gigirock> un estesa primaria........ [21:12] <cristian_c> CtrlAltCanc, il punto è che con l'installer di ubuntu è altamente improbabile che tu abbia fatto danni solamente con il partizionamento [21:13] <cristian_c> se non hai installato un bootloader, per giunta [21:13] <cristian_c> quindi se hai fatto qualcosa di strano all'mbr, ti conviene rivolgerti a un tecnico qualificato [21:14] <cristian_c> CtrlAltCanc, i quali sono professionalmente preparati a eseguire backup e a ripristinare il disco [21:14] <cristian_c> che è proprio ciò che ti serve [21:31] <CtrlAltCanc> forse non mi sono espresso bene e forse sono stato frainteso. Quello che volevo sapere da chi ne sa sicuramente piu' di me di questo s.op. era se potevo aver fatto qualche cosa di strano dal momento che non mi spiego come possa essere successo. Quindi volevo sapere se era possibile fare "marcia indietro" e ripristinare con strumenti ubuntu/ li [21:31] <CtrlAltCanc> nux in modo da imparare qlcs. Se poi mi dici che non c'e' modo o non e' alla mia portata in ubuntu allora lo faro' dal lato windows dove non mi serve l'intervento di terze parti. Ma siccome, volevo fare le cose seguendo le procedure di questo sistema operativo , allora mi sembrava piu' adatto sforzarsi di imparare qualche cosa di questo sistem [21:31] <CtrlAltCanc> a. Se non e' cosa, okay. Domani fdisk e tanti saluti ad ubuntu!! senza offesa per nessuno naturalmente! :) [21:35] <ludpi03> salve [21:37] <gigirock> ludpi03, salve ci dobbiamo preoccupare o salve e' domenica sera e cazzeggio ? [21:38] <ludpi03> direi salve è domenica sera e non parte il mouse usb [21:40] <gigirock> ludpi03, lsusb [21:41] <ludpi03> fatto già, non parte [21:43] <CtrlAltCanc> ciao gigi grazie delle info 'notte notte! [21:45] <gigirock> ludpi03, ma lsusb 'vede un mouse ?
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2015-06-14-#ubuntu-es
[04:13] <promo-nick> http://bloglibre.ml/acerca-d crea tu blog en menos de un minuto de manera facil. [08:33] <ricard> no logreo pasar unos archivos iso del dvd a la memoria usb [08:35] <ricard> hola [09:14] <Tiffon> nas [11:41] <ricard> la memotia usb me quedan 6,7gb sin asignar como puedo asignarlos?? [11:42] <ricard> memoria usb [11:47] <ricard> ayudas no?? [11:47] <mimecar> ¿dónde tienes esa memoria? [11:47] <mimecar> aparte, ten en cuenta que es fin de semana, la gente puede tardar en contestar [11:47] <ricard> en un puerto usb [11:48] <mimecar> es una memoria Flash? [11:49] <ricard> si [11:49] <mimecar> ¿has creado particiones en una memoria Flash? [11:49] <ricard> se han creado solas al instalar ubuntu 14.04 bueno la imagen iso [11:50] <mimecar> ¿cómo has instalado Ubuntu en la memoria Flash? [11:51] <ricard> lo he descargado y luego le he dado a abrir con escritor de imagen de disco [11:52] <mimecar> es más sencillo si la instalas con Unetbootin [11:52] <mimecar> no se crean particiones extras y se puede ver desde Windows [11:53] <mimecar> en tu caso tendrás que usar gparted para usar el espacio no asignado [11:53] <ricard> si pero con unetbootin en el archivo 254 se queda parado [11:54] <ricard> si pero en gparted no me salen particiones [11:54] <mimecar> si se queda parado o la ISO está mal o la memoria USB está mal [11:54] <mimecar> ¿qué capacidad tiene esa memoria? [11:54] <ricard> 7,8gb [11:55] <mimecar> me parece que lo que has hecho es pasar la "partición" de la ISO a la memoria USB [11:55] <mimecar> no has instalaod nada, por eso tienes ocupado sólo 1 GB [11:56] <ricard> que puedo hacer?? [11:56] <mimecar> eliminar la partición y empezar de nuevo [11:57] <mimecar> 8 GB para un Ubuntu de escritorio está bastante justo [11:58] <ricard> solo he instalado el instalador de ubuntu no el programa [11:58] <ricard> ya me sale intalar ubuntu desde la bios [11:58] <mimecar> si has pasado la ISO no tienes ningún problema [11:58] <mimecar> perderás los 6.7 GB [11:59] <ricard> no hay otra forma de hacerlo?? [12:00] <mimecar> pasar la ISO de Ubuntu? [12:00] <ricard> si [12:01] <mimecar> si no quieres desperdiciar el espacio, crea de nuevo una partición y usa unetbootin [12:01] <ricard> vale gracias hasta luego [12:02] <ricard> que tipo de archivos pongo en la memoria flash [12:03] <mimecar> FAT32 [12:03] <ricard> deacuerdo gracias de nuevo te dejo ya [12:04] <ricard> adios [14:53] <ellisa> hola buenas tardes (_)? [15:03] <erAbuelo> buenas [15:03] <erAbuelo> alguien con internet de fibra de R? [16:13] <coihue> hola gente [16:19] <mimecar> hola [16:19] <erAbuelo> hola mimecar [16:49] <coihue> Donde estan esos chistes malos, a ver [16:49] <erAbuelo> en cafe [16:50] * coihue mete la pata como alguien con resca [16:50] <erAbuelo> ;) [17:09] <erAbuelo> con suerte vuelvo en un ratito xD [18:21] <chapo> buenas [18:22] <mimecar> hola [18:38] <chapo> tengo rato que no entraba por aca ya veo que ni el arp anda por aca
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2015-06-14-#xubuntu
[05:31] <superprower> Hi, i'm using x64 version of ubuntu, and i want to install wine, but when i try to do this, aptitude says that wine wants to remove my nvidia driver and install mesa instead, i tried wine1.5, wine1.6-amd64 both of them doing the same, how do i install wine on x64 system? ty for answer in advance [05:33] <superprower> *xubuntu [11:57] <Reptilia> I am having problems with the hibernate / suspend options on my laptop. When i am on AC and i close the lid, the laptop won't hibernate but will just only turn off the screen. On the contrary, when i am on battery power, the laptop will suspend when i close the lid. In both cases i am getting the following message: "Power Manager - not authorized" accompanied with an icon with "Z z" written on it. Any ideas on how to fix this? Thanks in advance. [11:57] <Reptilia> This started happening after an update which i made approx. a week ago [12:06] <Reptilia> I am having problems with the hibernate / suspend options on my laptop. When i am on AC and i close the lid, the laptop won't hibernate but will just only turn off the screen. On the contrary, when i am on battery power, the laptop will suspend when i close the lid. In both cases i am getting the following message: "Power Manager - not authorized" accompanied with an icon with "Z z" written on it. Any ideas on how to fix this? Thanks in advance. [12:16] <brainwash> Reptilia: which xubuntu release? first thing to test would be to disable screen locking and then try again [12:19] <Reptilia> brainwash:14.04.2 [12:21] <Reptilia> brainwash:The thing is, everything was fine till a week ago [12:21] <brainwash> you mentioned this [12:22] <Reptilia> brainwash:Light locker is off [12:22] <Reptilia> brainwash:So, screen locking is disabled [12:23] <brainwash> did you enable the Xfce 4.12 PPA? [12:24] <Reptilia> brainwash:Nope, to be frank, i don't know what is the usage of enabling that repo [12:25] <brainwash> mmh [12:25] <brainwash> so the amount of updates should be rather low [12:25] <Reptilia> brainwash:To make it clear (the initial explanation of the problem may not be explained well), the laptop is working as it's supposed to while on battery (it does suspend). The problem is when it's on AC [12:25] <brainwash> check the log files in /var/log/apt/ [12:26] <Reptilia> okay [12:26] <brainwash> right. I think we should first figure out which updates have been installed in the past days [12:26] <Reptilia> Okay. There are 5 log files here [12:26] <Reptilia> 6* [12:27] <Reptilia> Which one should i open? [12:27] <Reptilia> Oh no, sorry [12:27] <brainwash> the history one [12:27] <Reptilia> 2 log files only [12:27] <Reptilia> my bad. [12:28] <Reptilia> brainwash:http://pastebin.com/q3wAwivD [12:28] <Reptilia> brainwash: http://pastebin.com/q3wAwivD [12:29] <brainwash> well, is there no older history file? a .gz one? [12:30] <Reptilia> brainwash:I have "Put the computer to sleep when inactive for" set to "Never". Could this cause problems? [12:31] <brainwash> that's screen locking when idle [12:31] <Reptilia> brainwash:Yeah, but just to re-assure :) [12:31] <Reptilia> brainwash:There are [12:32] <Reptilia> brainwash:2 older history files, with .gz extension [12:36] <brainwash> will you upload the content of these files too? [12:37] <brainwash> the newer one should contain the specific time frame I guess [12:38] <Reptilia> brainwash:Sure [12:45] <Reptilia> brainwash:I will do that for a few minutes, but tell me, why isn't hibernation an option while on battery, when it's more battery-friendly than suspend (sleep)? [12:46] <brainwash> I don't know. hibernation is disabled by default in x/ubuntu [12:46] <Reptilia> brainwash:Btw, the laptop suspends successfully while on AC [12:48] <brainwash> so, are you trying to say that something other than a system update is the cause? we still trying to check which packages have been updated [12:49] <brainwash> did you change any settings (system files) or Xfce related ones? [12:50] <Reptilia> brainwash:I am just trying to remember if i have played with some of the power settings, but i recalled now that i did not modify the laptop lid settings, so, we (you :)) can see the log files [12:50] <Reptilia> just a sec [12:51] <brainwash> one thing you could (and should) check is whether a second or new user account is affected too by this problem [13:01] <Reptilia> brainwash:Weird. I logged in into a guest account as you said. The laptop did suspend / hibernated (not sure about the practical difference between those and the time it takes for the pc to be usable again after opening the lid), but in the Power Options, both on battery and AC, the "When laptop lid is closed" option was set to: "Lock screen". [13:02] <Reptilia> brainwash:I guess it was a suspend, because it was relatively fast booted up again (~ 3.5 seconds) [13:03] <brainwash> so, it did work, but the power manager settings were ignored [13:04] <Reptilia> brainwash:Yeah, it turns out that the settings were ignored [13:05] <brainwash> can you test with a new user account too? the guest session may behave differently [13:05] <Reptilia> brainwash:Sure [13:05] <brainwash> some special rules may apply to it [13:10] <Reptiliah> brainwash:I tried reversing to the initial laptop lid settings (AC:Lock screen, Battery:Lock screen). While on AC, i closed the laptop display, the laptop did shutdown, when i opened it up again, it did ask me for my user password (previously it didn't), and after that the laptop screen went solid black, and no output was shown on it. I had to reboot, and here i am. [13:13] <Reptiliah> brainwash:Brb, ~ 15 mins [13:15] <Reptiliah> brainwash:It turns out that everything works fine, except the hibernate (which you said that is disabled by default in Xubuntu) [13:16] <Reptiliah> brainwash:now brb [13:16] <brainwash> that's confusing. I mean to keep track of what works and what does not :) [13:17] <brainwash> 'lock screen' should only lock the screen, the system should keep running [13:44] <Reptiliah> brainwash:Pencil and paper [13:44] <Reptiliah> brainwash: :) [13:45] <Reptiliah> brainwash:And about the 'lock screen' option [13:45] <Reptiliah> brainwash:Idk.. [13:45] <Reptiliah> brainwash:I will link you the history log files now, just tell me how to decompress them [14:14] <Nairwolf> hi, could you tell me if I use the lock screen, does it put the system in sleep mode ? [14:21] <Reptiliah> Nairwolf:In my case, yes [14:21] <Reptiliah> Nairwolf:Waiting for brainwash, so we can try to fix that :) [14:21] <Nairwolf> is it possible to disable this ? [14:22] <Reptiliah> Nairwolf:I don't know [14:22] <Nairwolf> because I would like to lock out my system without put it in sleep mode [14:23] <Nairwolf> (because on sleep mode, for example, I must to quit IRC [14:48] <Nairwolf> someone know how to lock the screen without put the system in sleep mode ? [14:49] <Reptiliah> Nairwolf:True, let's wait for brainwash, he seem to know a lot :) [14:50] <Nairwolf> okay, do you know when I could find him ? [14:57] <Reptiliah> Nairwolf:Nope, we will just wait for him to show, haha [15:09] <Nairwolf> and how to have different virtual desktop ? [18:05] <linnov> Hi. Can someone help me? After installing Xubuntu and "sudo ufw enable" there is no access to Internet... ISP gives the access to WAN through VPN-PPTP (vpn.isp.net). [18:07] <linnov> The problem is in ufw (no changes in rule were made), cause after "sudo ufw disable" the access to Internet appears. [18:18] <brainwash_> linnov: install gufw (graphical frontend) and configure ufw properly [18:19] <brainwash_> linnov: if you still have questions, I suggest that you ask in #ubuntu [18:19] <brainwash_> !ufw [18:19] <brainwash_> and read this ^ [18:22] <linnov> brainwash: Thanks. Bun I was in #ubuntu and there is nothing. How can I understand this: Default: deny (incoming), allow (outgoing), disabled (routed)? No connection with default settings of ufw... [18:23] <brainwash_> there is nothing? [18:24] <brainwash_> I strongly recommends that you read the linked wiki article [18:24] <brainwash_> recommend [18:25] <brainwash_> + https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gufw [18:25] <brainwash_> you have to understand the basics [18:35] <linnov> brainwash: Thanks for advice but... there is no nothing about pptp-vpn for home PC (not NAT-server), nothing about 1723 port of vpn-server of ISP... I did all that mentioned in above article... "Fail to connect to VPN"... incoming drop, outcoming accept - nothing work by default... I am out of mind. I read "Iptables manual 1.2.2" but it takes time. Thanks for trying to help. [18:49] <JeZxLee> I have a question - how can I specify an icon in a makefile? [19:49] <msev_> I'm getting a "boot error" when I tried to boot the xubuntu 14.04.2 liveusb (created with unetbootin) [19:50] <msev_> anything I can do? [19:51] <ObrienDave> keep trying until it takes. did you check the ISO with md5? [19:52] <msev_> no, but its the first time that it happened to me, I'm trying now various distros :) [19:53] <ObrienDave> consider yourself lucky it's the first time :) [19:53] <ObrienDave> i have much better luck burning ISO to DVD [19:53] <msev_> I had a minty xfce variant before, now I put ubuntu mate on and I fell its not as snappy as xfce [19:54] <msev_> so I want to try dual booting with xubuntu :) [19:54] <msev_> I'll try again [19:54] <ObrienDave> wait.... [19:55] <ObrienDave> you only need to install the different DEs. dual boot is not necessary for *buntus [19:55] <Nairwolf> you should use mkusb, it seems more reliable thant unetbootin [19:56] <ObrienDave> all *buntus share same core system. the flavors just use different desktop environments [19:56] <ObrienDave> you can select which DE you want at the logon screen [19:57] <msev_> yeah but for example when I mixed xfce and cinnamon it borked some settings [19:57] <msev_> and that annoys me, that it for example changes the theme or something like that [19:57] <ObrienDave> well, this is true. i tried cinnamon once, really screwed up my system [19:58] <msev_> lolz is it just the case with cinnamon hehe [19:58] <msev_> should mate and xfce be compatible :D [19:58] <ObrienDave> i have both mate and xfce [19:58] <msev_> and no problems? [19:58] <ObrienDave> doesn't seem to be. ymmv [19:59] <msev_> yeah then I might do it that way [20:00] <msev_> now I need to join some other irc channel also since on another computer I'm going with ubuntu gnome :) [20:00] <ObrienDave> #ubuntu handles gnome [20:01] <ObrienDave> iirc [20:01] <ObrienDave> there's 10x as many people in #ubuntu anyway. this is mostly for xubuntu specific issues [20:01] <msev_> the partitioning thing always gets me when installing distros along side eachother and windows for example, I always need to go to some support channel :) [20:02] <msev_> I'm happy with xfce 4.12 :) [20:02] <msev_> no issues hehe [20:02] <ObrienDave> cool [20:02] <ObrienDave> partitioning is fairly easy, and fairly easy to bork the whole drive ;P [20:03] <msev_> yeah :) thats why I always ask you guys the experts :) [20:05] <ObrienDave> just remember, under MFT, you can have 4 partitions max. one can be an extended partition with many sub-partitions under it. i don't know the limit of that [20:05] <ObrienDave> under GPT, you can have 128 partitions max [20:06] <msev_> yeah won't go crazy with it :) [20:09] <ObrienDave> i could not afford a HD anywhere near the drive capacity for GPT. lol [23:57] <RJ45> After upgrading to 14.04, in the Sound Settings, none of the sound level meters are working (blue strips that bounce with sound), how do I fix this? [23:57] <RJ45> Just to clarify, my sound is working, but the sound level indicators are not. [23:59] <ObrienDave> which utility/package are you referring to?
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2015-06-14-#ubuntu-uk
[07:38] <bujji> intrbiz:some aystem admin commands to know system performance..? [07:51] <bujji> lilo? [08:16] <bujji> please any one give me syatem admin related reference..))) [08:16] <bujji> system* [08:17] <bujji> intrbiz:o/ [09:19] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls. [09:46] <SuperEngineer> sometimes one has to make *really big* decisions like "bacon sandwich now or bacon sandwich later"... [09:46] <SuperEngineer> hmmmmmmmmm [09:49] <brobostigon> :) [09:49] <brobostigon> why not have both? [09:56] <SuperEngineer> mmmmmmm -nom, nom! I do like that idea! [09:58] <brobostigon> :) [10:56] <czajkowski> aloha [11:44] <brobostigon> afternoodlings czajkowski [12:15] * zmoylan-pi has bread and taytos for lunch (not influenced by the aer lingus story at all, at all) :-) [12:18] <shauno> heh, I saw that one. they're not going to win me over that easily! [12:18] <zmoylan-pi> more of a king fan? [12:18] <shauno> lol, I meant aer fungus [12:19] <zmoylan-pi> i know a few ex pats who's pay 3 times the price of ryanair just for that first taste of tayto... [12:20] <shauno> easier just to go to sainsburys and buy them, no? [12:20] <zmoylan-pi> they're northern ireland tayto... slightly different [12:23] <shauno> I should be flying to the states on aer lingus for christmas though. that'll be different [12:24] <zmoylan-pi> yes, you can bring a box of tayto in your checked on luggage :-D [12:34] <penguin42> it's an odd world where you hear a bleeping, find it's the washing machine in an error state, look up the hex error code it displays to find it says low water pressure and *then* turn on the tap to find the water is off [12:35] <zmoylan-pi> once took me about 6 months to track down a rogue random beep to a smoke alarm that beeped once every 15 minutes to let me know the battery was flat... [12:35] <shauno> see, in my head, the washing machine would just send you an email [12:36] <zmoylan-pi> no no, in the web 2.0 world it would tweet an emojii [12:36] <penguin42> shauno: Well, the thing is, it does have wifi and I could monitor it from my phone if I could be bothered to set it up [12:36] <zmoylan-pi> surely you just need to download an app... [12:36] <penguin42> well, yes [12:37] <penguin42> why can't it just do an SNMP trap? [12:37] <shauno> see, I'd love that [12:37] <shauno> I have an app for my espresso machine :) [12:37] <zmoylan-pi> what you really need is a giant oujia board on the floor and the washing machine spells out messages as it wobbles about the room :-D [12:37] <penguin42> shauno: I have an app for my new camera - can take a picture remotely from the camera - but it's pretty crap; only lets you change the zoom and trigger it [12:38] <shauno> zmoylan-pi: hah, that's closer to what I have [12:39] <shauno> but see, in my head we'd have something central much like we do with a router [12:40] <shauno> and your washing machine etc would just advertise itself on the network, and the router would see it and pick up the correct app for it (something like docker, ubuntu snappy, etc, where it can go grab from the repo something that matches the ident) [12:40] <zmoylan-pi> maybe it could spell out messages by nicking black and white socks for 0's and 1's... [12:40] <penguin42> shauno: Well that's why I say if it used something like snmp that would kind of work [12:40] <shauno> and then we can do everything via this one central point instead of having a different app for everything [12:41] <shauno> it just bugs me that everything I have that calls itself smart, operates in a vacuum [12:41] <zmoylan-pi> except the vacuum cleaner of course... [12:41] <shauno> nah, my roomba doesn't join in eithe r;) [12:42] <penguin42> you mean that the washing machine or espresso machine could call in the vacuum cleaner to sort out a spill? [12:42] <shauno> but, eg, I put my work shifts into my calendar. tell my coffee machine when it should turn on & heat up. tell my lights when they should come on [12:42] <shauno> what I can't do is tell my coffee machine that it should turn in 90 minutes before a calendar event, and my lights 60 minutes before a calendar event [12:43] <shauno> instead we have the kind of duplication of effort that'd get me fired at work [12:45] <penguin42> shauno: Right, because you don't have APIs to the coffee machine or lights; although the lights should be doable [12:45] <shauno> (it does actually take 20-30 minutes for the temperature on my coffee machine to stabilize, so at 5am it's a very real concern) [12:46] <shauno> I kinda do for the coffee, it's on a belkin wemo outlet. which is mostly standard protocols beaten and broken until they no longer resemble the standard [12:46] <shauno> and my lights are just json over http [12:47] <shauno> my gripe is that I shouldn't have to write the glue. that's not "smart" [12:47] <penguin42> ok, so you want some sort of hub application with plugins for each one [12:47] <shauno> right [12:48] <shauno> I figure something like Snappy where the apps come from a repo [12:49] <zmoylan-pi> i think the problem is that if there was a single app/web page/interface protocol every appliance would think it deserves to be #1 from your smart nose hair clippers to you electric pepper grinder [12:49] <shauno> that way it's not just "anything on the network can install code on the router". the devices advertise what they are, and snappy finds something to match from the repo. that way you only have to trust the repo, not every device that tries to be 'smart' [12:49] * penguin42 notes you wouldn't want to get the electric pepper controls confused with the smart nose clippers [12:50] <penguin42> shauno: Well, you should already be able to do something like that with mdns/avahi broadcast to detect stuff [12:50] <shauno> sure. I think all the components are there [12:51] <zmoylan-pi> if they all had android apps they could have widgets you arrange on a tablet screen any way you prefer [12:51] <shauno> we have the technology. we've had it for a long time. what we don't have is vendors with any interest in playing nicely together [12:51] <zmoylan-pi> i remember looking at home automation in mid 80s. red one gizmo that was controlled by 8 bit computer [12:52] <shauno> which is what's left the whole thing vulnerable to something like apple's "homekit". it's going to take someone bigger than the vendors to scare them all into being compatible [12:52] <shauno> which, as much as I'm the token apple-lover around here, isn't really the ideal result [12:53] <zmoylan-pi> because the world uses different voltages and frequencies it will be very expensive to make a global standard [12:54] <shauno> none of that really needs to be standard though. the individual appliances can do whatever they like, as long as they're capable of sharing back to something sane [12:55] <shauno> I don't care if the washing machine uses wifi, bluetooth, zigbee, ethernet. as long as it can send messages back to the router, and the router can schedule events on the washer [12:55] <zmoylan-pi> it's a level of standardisation that will make smart tvs look... easy [12:57] <shauno> well, philips (my lights) have already announced they plan to work with homekit [12:57] <shauno> if belkin do the same, my issues disappear down an Apple blackhole [12:57] <penguin42> shauno: I don't really understand the wifi system thats used for pairing devices [12:58] <shauno> for which? [12:58] <zmoylan-pi> wps? [12:58] <penguin42> yeh [12:59] <shauno> the two systems I have both do their own thing [12:59] <penguin42> both the camera and the washing machine use WPS I think [13:00] <shauno> belkin shows up as an AP when it's unitialized, then you connect to it and direct it to your wifi network [13:01] <shauno> and philips just lays claim to the nearest 'homeless' lightbulb when you hit the link button [13:03] <shauno> which is a fun process. "hold the bulb up to the base station and press Link" sounds perfectly sensible [13:03] <shauno> until you realise that the bulb has to be plugged in & powered for this to work. So you end up making offerins of table lamps to your router. [13:04] <zmoylan-pi> but it's supposed to be wireless!!! :-( [13:04] <shauno> yeah. it is and it isn't. the communication is wireless. the light bulb still needs electricity [13:05] <zmoylan-pi> http://notalwaysright.com/?s=wireless [13:07] <zmoylan-pi> and good luck holding up your smart washing machine to the base station... :-D [13:08] <penguin42> the WPS stuff is more just a pair of devices though rather than to a central hub? [13:09] <shauno> I honestly don't have much clue about WPS. I've only used it to try to link a linksys to another base-station. and it didn't go well [13:12] <zmoylan-pi> getting wifi ap to become wifi extenders can be very hit and miss due to the software installed by the manufacturers [13:12] <shauno> in other news, Philae (comet-lander) is awake! http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-33126885 [13:12] <penguin42> shauno: https://developer.sony.com/2013/11/29/how-to-develop-an-app-using-the-camera-remote-api-2/ wow [13:13] <zmoylan-pi> nasa is now on hold to tech support trying to reset their pin code for philae... :-P [13:13] <shauno> penguin42: that's actually a whole lot more than I ever expected from Sony! [13:13] <penguin42> shauno: Yeh, lets see if that's the version mine supports [13:17] <shauno> I'm not sure anyone expected Philae to come back. it only worked for 60 hours before it went to sleep. so waking up 7 months later is awesome [13:17] <penguin42> yeh [13:18] <zmoylan-pi> no, the stories at the time did say there was a chance it would wake later as it approached the sun and got more light [13:19] <zmoylan-pi> it was designed to travel while off to it's meetup with the comet. so we're getting better at that [13:20] <penguin42> tapping big wifi password in using the wheel on a camera isn't fun [13:23] * zmoylan-pi remembers the joy of configuring ancient printers via dip switches which were always in most awkward spot on devices that weighed a tonne and were by the time i go to them manky... :-) [13:26] <zmoylan-pi> you would have thought it would be really easy to add a qr code reading bit of software to sony cameras to read wifi codes that way [13:27] <zmoylan-pi> copy wifi code to qrcode generator on web, take pic with camera, camera joins network with code [13:28] <zmoylan-pi> of course it would also need the wifi ssid but that wouldn't be a biggie [13:29] <penguin42> hmm, not sure if that's the way this camera connects to none-phone, I can configure wifi on it, but then it doesn't seem to do much with it except to connect to the base station, if I put it in connect to computer mode it says I need to connect it via USB to configure something which I guess is with the windows app [13:30] <zmoylan-pi> that's... helpful... [13:31] <penguin42> I suspect this might be slightly too early a camera for that protocol, so it might be easier to look at the phone protocol rather than the computer one [13:32] <shauno> that's kinda how the apple watch pairs. it draws a starfield-type pattern on the screen, then you take a picture with your phone [13:32] <zmoylan-pi> it makes more sense to do it that way i think [13:33] <penguin42> oh, the phone pairing you install an app on the phone, put the cemera into phone mode and it displays a password that you tap into the phone [13:33] <zmoylan-pi> asking humans to type in long random strings of alphanumerics gets less easy the more times it fails... [13:41] <zmoylan-pi> bonus points when they use a font that makes 1's and l's so so similar... or's 0's and O's [13:41] <zmoylan-pi> compaq used to use a font on serial numbers that made B's and 8's indistinguisable [14:08] <penguin42> zmoylan-pi: Ah, that explains why they had to invent the thing where holding down a button would burble the machine serial information so you could hold up the phone to the system [14:11] <penguin42> right, given the boiler a bit more pressure, it got upset at losing mains [15:44] <diddledan> and I'm back in civilisation [15:44] <diddledan> (amazingstoke counts as civil, right?) [15:46] <penguin42> going round and round in circles? [15:46] <diddledan> of course! [16:07] <shauno> I guess basingstoke counts if you've just spent 2 weeks in wales ;) [16:07] <shauno> (not that it's much better here. I went for a cycle yesterday, and after an hour noticed the signs weren't in english anymore) [16:12] <shauno> (eg http://i.imgur.com/x7zcSZg.jpg ) [16:15] <penguin42> shauno: you don't need your passport do you? [16:16] <shauno> dunno, they've never asked :) [16:17] <shauno> it gets really irish really quickly out that way though. barna/furbo actually have irish-language requirements for much of their housing (I think 80%?) [17:08] <zmoylan-pi> well it is... you know... ireland [17:09] <shauno> sure, but there's a slight difference between, say, dublin and the gaeltacht [17:10] <zmoylan-pi> the english is better in the gaeltacht :-P [17:11] <shauno> than dublin? that's not setting a high bar ;) [17:13] <shauno> so, my entry for "what could possibly go wrong" this week; someone's agreed to take me on as race crew for cowes week. I've had exactly one sailing lesson so far (and another booked between now & then) [17:13] * zmoylan-pi is reminded of the american general who's plane came down in dublin mountain around wwii. an irish speaking regiment were training in the area and quickly secured the area. the general commented later that these guys sure know their codes... :-) [17:13] <zmoylan-pi> so technically for the race you'll be ballast.... [17:14] <shauno> pretty much railmeat, yeah [17:14] <shauno> but I'm still stoked :) [17:15] <shauno> I literally have a spot because they're one man down for the first two days, so I'm to fill a spot on the roster [17:29] <DJones> Hmmh, can;t "run minecraft.jar by right clicking and using "open with java*" option just isn't there [17:33] <zmoylan-pi> it's make you more productive feature... :-) [23:46] <diddledan> is wily out yet? :-p [23:47] <daftykins> trust you to ask [23:47] <daftykins> ;D [23:49] <diddledan_> ooh, BSOD [23:51] <diddledan_> bye me \o [23:52] <daftykins> doppelganger! [23:52] <diddledan_> it's almost as if there's two of me [23:53] <daftykins> which one is faster? [23:56] <diddledan_> he was
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2015-06-14-#ubuntu-de
[08:54] <LupusE> hi [13:16] <dreamon> Würde gerne GTK Sourcecode compilieren. http://zetcode.com/tutorials/gtktutorial/introduction/ → Aber welche Pakete benötige ich unter ubuntu das ich compilieren kann? [13:16] <kubine> dreamon: Title: Introduction to GTK+ (at zetcode.com) [13:16] <dreamon> Im moment motzt er über → Package gtk+-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path. → Package gtk+-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path. [13:18] <dreamon> fatal error: cairo.h: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden→ #include <cairo.h> [13:18] <ppq> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=cairo.h&mode=exactfilename&suite=trusty&arch=any [13:18] <kubine> ppq: Title: Ubuntu – Package Contents Search Results -- cairo.h (at packages.ubuntu.com) [13:19] <ppq> mach das einfach für alle [13:39] <RedNifre> Guten Tag. [13:40] <dreamon> ppq, Könnte es auch an dem GTK2.0 liegen? Das es vielleicht veraltet ist.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/11714146/ [13:40] <kubine> dreamon: Title: Ubuntu Pastebin (at paste.ubuntu.com) [13:40] <RedNifre> Ich habe gerade ein Ubuntu in einer Virtualbox unter Windows laufen. Wenn ich Windows mit Win+L sperre und danach entsperre ist Ubuntu auch gesperrt, sprich, ich muss sozusagen zweimal entsperren. In den Keyboard Shortcuts steht aber nur Strg+Alt+L als Ubuntu-Sperr-Kuerzel, warum wird es also gesperrt? [13:40] <dreamon> Die anderen Sources konnte ich compilieren.. aber am dem Timer jetzt gibt es probleme. Die paket hab ich alle installiert [13:41] <RedNifre> Wenn ich nicht die Virtualbox im Vordergrund habe waehrend ich Win+L druecke wird nur Windows gesperrt, nicht Ubuntu, also denke ich, dass Ubuntu auf Win+L reagiert. Warum? Und wie schalte ich das ab wenn es nicht bei den Keyboard Shortcuts auftaucht? [13:51] <ppq> RedNifre, änder mal den shortcut in ubuntu auf irgendwas anderes [13:53] <RedNifre> habe es auf umschalt strg alt L geaendert, jetzt kann ich nicht mehr mit strg alt L sperren, aber mit Win L sperrt es immer noch. [13:53] <dreamon> ppq, hat sich erledigt. habe glade-gtk installiert jetzt läßt es sich compilieren. Muß wohl noch ein Paket gefehlt haben [13:53] <RedNifre> Vielleicht ist das auch ein "feature" der guest extensions von Virtualbox? Sehr komisch... [13:55] <ppq> ja, es hat auf jeden fall mit virtualbox zu tun [13:55] <RedNfire> Hatte gerade probeweise den Laptop zugeklappt, das sperrt Windows, disconnected mich von IRC, sperrt aber nicht Ubuntu. [13:55] <RedNfire> Na gut, dann recherchiere ich da nochmal weiter. [13:56] <ppq> RedNfire, änder einfach den ubuntu lock shortcut zu irgendwas anderem [13:56] <ppq> nicht mit L sondern, keine ahnung, was anderes halt [13:56] <RedNfire> hmmmm [13:57] <ppq> kannst ihn bestimmt auch ganz deaktivieren irgendwie [13:57] <RedNfire> Hilft nichts. Habe es gerade mit umschalt strg alt R probiert. [13:58] <ppq> ok, dann sondet vbox dem gast offenbar ein acpi event beim locken [13:59] <ppq> stell das mal in den ubuntu energieeinstellungen so ein, dass der screen nicht gelockt wird beim zuklappen des virtuellen notebookdeckels :) [13:59] <RedNfire> hm! [13:59] <ppq> ! [14:00] <RedNfire> Wo ist die Einstellung denn genau? Ich finde keinen Laptop-Deckel... [14:01] <RedNfire> Was genau meinst du mit energieeinstellungen? Bei "Leistung" ist kein Deckel da. [14:02] <RedNfire> ...wobei das ja auch total bescheuert waere, wenn ich den echten Windows-Laptop zuklappe muss ich danach Ubuntu ja NICHT entsperren. [14:06] <ppq> RedNifre_afk, hm ja, ich stell mir das so vor, dass vbox nur auf das win+l reagiert und das auch nur wenn es gerade im vordergrund ist. und dann dem gast das acpi event sendet [14:06] <ppq> ist natürlich auch nur geraten jetzt, aber würd halt dem beobachteten verhalten entsprechen [14:07] <ppq> dass keine notebook-spezifischen einstellungen angezeigt werden heißt nicht, dass der gast nicht auf acpi-events reagiertz [14:07] <ppq> schau mal, ob man das unter der haube irgendwie einstellen kann [14:07] <ppq> gconf oder wie das heißt [14:07] <ppq> habe von unity keinen blassen schimmer leider [16:51] <Anf> Guten Tag, icxh hab mal wieder mal eine kleine frage, ich hab in meinen Rechner nachträglich eine USB 3.0 Karte eingebaut und den Treiber bei Windows 7 installiert, kann ich irgendwie testen, ob die Karte unter Ubuntu läuft, ohne USB Stick mit 3.0. Hab einen USB Stick 2.0 angeschlossen und Ubuntu hat Ihn über die Karte erkannt, kann ich davon ausgehen, das die Treiber bei Ubuntu installiert sind, und auch USB 3.0 mit Ubuntu funktio [16:53] <phillip> meistens schon, kann aber keine Abschließende Aussage treffen, da ich die Hardware nicht habe [16:57] <Lembert> Hallo, ich benötige Hilfe bei einem dns Problem. Bei meinem Ubuntu PC löst es mir keine Domain auf. Chrome bringt nur einen dns not resolve Fehler. Pingbar ist eigentlich jede IP. Mein WindowsPC hat bisher keine Probleme gezeigt. Wie gehe ich so ein Problem an? [17:03] <jokrebel> Lembert: Hast Du nen Router davor? [17:03] <Lembert> ja [17:04] <Anf> ok, vielen Dank. Muss mir dan wohl einen USB 3.0 USB Stick besorgen und dan mal mit Ubuntu testen, ob die Karte mit Ubuntu läuft. [17:04] <oxymor00n> Lembert: kuck mal was in /etc/resolv.conf steht. Da sollt der nameserver drin sein (bin allerdings nicht auf nem ubuntu rechner grad) [17:04] <Lembert> draytek vigor 2830 [17:04] <jokrebel> klappt DNS an anderen Geräten am selben Router? [17:04] <Lembert> jokrebel ja, windowspc hängt am selben router [17:06] <Lembert> oxymor00n, /etc/resolve.conf ist leer [17:06] <Lembert> nur 2 lines kommentare drin [17:08] <jokrebel> Lembert: Bekommt der Ubuntu-Rechner denn die Infos per DHCP zugewiesen? Oder hast Du vielleicht da ne feste IP irgendwie/irgendwo reingepfriemelt? [17:08] <Lembert> jokrebel, läuft über dhcp [17:09] <Lembert> ich hab vorhin den router auch komplett resettet, um den ausschließen zu können [17:09] <oxymor00n> hast du /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf und steht da das selbe drin? bzw ist /etc/resolv.conf ein symlink drauf? [17:12] <Lembert2> oxymor00n, ja da steht das selbe drin [17:13] <oxymor00n> Hm. Ich sitz leider nicht vor einer Ubuntu-Kiste grad, aber eigentlich sollt resolvconf (also das paket) das verwalten, und beim abgreifen einer IP über dhcp das da eintragen. Vielleicht kann da wer helfen der da genauer bescheid weiß [17:17] <jokrebel> Lembert2: Also in meiner /etc/resolv.conf steht die IP und Mask des Routers. Nutzt Du den Networkmanager? [17:17] <Lembert2> jokrebel, ja ich nutz das gui interface von gnome [17:18] <jokrebel> nutzt Du LAN oder WLAN? [17:18] <Lembert2> lan [17:20] <jokrebel> was steht bei Kabelnetzverbindung im Sector IPv4-Einstellungen (ggf. Screenshot nopasten) [17:21] <jokrebel> vielleicht ist bei Methode "DHCP nur Adressen" ausgewählt? [17:34] <Lembert2> also, ich hab vorhin entdeckt, dass bei der sektion dhcp unter ip4 der dns schalter nicht auf automatisch war, umgeschalten, nun geht es [17:35] <Lembert2> in der gui steht nun als dns mein router drin, in der resolv.conf hat er ein nameserver 127.0.1.1 reingesetzt [17:36] <noseeder> guten abend ich habe ein problem mit Postfix. ich möchte das der Ubuntu 14.4 server bei mir mails über den Mailserver bei Hosteurope verschickt. nur anscheinend bin ich nicht in der Lage das zu konfigurieren. ist jemand bereit mir bei der fehlersuche zu helfen? [17:38] <jokrebel> Lembert2: Wenn man IP-Adresse und DNS-Auflösung nicht selbst verwalten will ist die Einstellung "Automatisch (DHCP)" [ohne den Zusatz "nur Adressen"] schon hilfreich ;-) [17:39] <Lembert2> ok, die einstellung "nur adressen" finde ich aber bei mir nicht [17:40] <noseeder> "Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 550 relay not permitted " wird mir immer angezeigt [17:41] <jokrebel> Lembert2: egal - die Einstellung willst Du ja auch nicht... [18:13] <noseeder> Ich habe eben das Tool Postfixadmin über die offiziellen paketquellen gefunden. Ich habe es installiert aber komme nicht an die web GUI ran. ich finde leider bei Ubuntuusers auch keinen Artikel darüber. mag mir bitte einer helfen das zum laufen zu bekommen? [18:37] <Benno-007> noseeder: "man postfixadmin" gesucht und angesehn? [18:37] <noseeder> vorhin gefunden [18:37] <noseeder> bin schon am arbeiten danke :-) [20:38] <dreamon> Woran könnte es liegen wenn ich im Terminal(Terminator) strg + pfeil nach rechts drücke.. Anstelle von Wort zu Wort zu springen eine ausgabe von ;5D pro Tastenanschlag angezeigt bekomme
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2015-06-14-#ubuntu-uy
[02:47] <magu42> xxx
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2015-06-14-#ubuntu-bugs
[07:58] <carlos___> really guys?
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2015-06-14-#ubuntu-nz
[20:12] <ibeardslee> morning [21:05] <hads> morning [22:38] <olly> morning
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2015-06-14-#ubuntu-meeting
[07:28] <Mikaela> I think the calendar link is missing s from the end in /topic
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2015-06-14-#ubuntu-gnome
[00:49] <LinDol> hi all [00:49] <LinDol> good morning :) [05:46] <austin4123> Hi! I would appreciate if you guys could help me out. Here is the problem I'm facing: [05:46] <austin4123> So I am trying to get the Vino VNC Server to startup on boot, meaning I don't have to login to have the VNC Server start. I am on Ubuntu GNOME 15.04, and I have already added "/usr/lib/vino/vino-server" to 'Startup Applications'. [05:46] <austin4123> However, the VNC Server still won't start as soon as I boot up. I have to login in order for the VNC Server to start. What should I do? [06:00] <darkxst> austin4123, "startup applications" are user only [06:00] <darkxst> you will want a systemd unit if your on 15.04 [06:00] <darkxst> or an upstart session prior versions to that [06:04] <darkxst> austin4123, you can also try set org.gnome.desktop.remote-access enabled in dconf-editor [07:51] <austin4123> darkxst it is enabled already in dconf [07:52] <austin4123> darkxst what do you mean by systemd unit? How do I configure it so that Vino can start up automatically? [08:28] <darkxst> austin4123, I don't know if vino ships with one, but if it does its just a case of doing something `systemctl enable vino` [08:28] <darkxst> if not you will need to create one [08:28] <austin4123> darkxst I have searched through the systemd folder, and there is none for vino [08:29] <darkxst> http://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd.unit.html [08:30] <austin4123> darkxst I'm really noob, and I have almost no idea what that article is talking about. Do you know if there are any existings one that have existed? [08:31] <austin4123> I have been googling for a couple hours, but still can't find a solution [08:31] <darkxst> austin4123, this would be close to what you want http://www.itzgeek.com/how-tos/linux/centos-how-tos/configure-vnc-server-on-centos-7-rhel-7.html [08:31] <darkxst> see the bit half way done where they create a .service file [08:32] <darkxst> I think you could just swap vncserver with vino-server [08:34] <austin4123> Could you guide me on how I can do it? I have almost no idea what it means... [08:35] <darkxst> austin4123, or try nx nomachine, it uses virtualGL and should actually work better with gnome-shell [08:36] <darkxst> https://www.nomachine.com/ [08:37] <austin4123> darkxst The reason I went with Vino is because it is already installed by default, and because of how I planned my server out, I need to remain with Vino... [08:38] <darkxst> austin4123, that is way faster than VNC though, especially over DSL type lines with crappy upload speeds [08:39] <austin4123> darkxst, I know there are a ton of VNC servers out there and I really don't like Vino too, but again I'm kinda stuck on Vino... [08:39] <darkxst> nomachine is not VNC server [08:41] <austin4123> darkxst I haven't really went into detail on what it exactly does, but I need to use Vino for remote desktop access.. [08:43] <darkxst> then go and make a systemd unit file, as per my other link [08:44] <austin4123> I came here because I don't know how to make a systemd unit file [08:45] <darkxst> austin4123, I am not going to do it for you, read the page I linked, it has an example unit file [08:45] <darkxst> and you should just need to replace vncserver with vino-server [08:46] <austin4123> darkxst what does "@:5.service" in "vncserver@:5.service" mean? [08:50] <darkxst> at a guess its telling to use display :5 [08:51] <austin4123> when i ran the command "cp /lib/systemd/system/[email protected] /etc/systemd/system/vino-server@:5.service", it returned: [08:52] <austin4123> cp: cannot stat '/lib/systemd/system/[email protected]': No such file or directory [08:53] <darkxst> you may need to grab the file from centos packages! [08:53] <austin4123> darkxst So first of all I need to find out where the vinoe-server.service file is right? [08:53] <austin4123> huh? [08:55] <darkxst> perhaps just cut+paste text from page, it seens complete enough [08:56] <darkxst> i gtg, you nay have better luck in #ubuntu or so, this is nothing specific to Ubuntu GNOME [08:56] <austin4123> ok. tried there, no response [08:58] <darkxst> ubuntuforums then perhaps [09:00] <austin4123> tried there too. [09:00] <darkxst> austin4123, sorry but I do not have time to provide individual user support [09:01] <austin4123> alright [09:01] <darkxst> I barely have time to run Ubuntu GNOME atm [09:01] <darkxst> s/run/lead/ [09:13] <austin4123> I just tried it, but it didn't work. I saved the file as "[email protected]" (without quotes). Did I did it correctly or should it be saved as other names? [09:32] <darkxst> austin4123, that name should be fine [09:33] <darkxst> but you need to enable the service with systemctl also [09:38] <austin4123> I got the error "Failed to start [email protected]: Unit name [email protected] is not valid." [09:39] <austin4123> , when I typed "systemctl start [email protected]" into the terminal [09:41] <darkxst> @ maybe globbed, try \@ or just remove ti from filename [09:41] <meetingology> darkxst: Error: "maybe" is not a valid command. [09:44] <austin4123> darkxst Error: "Failed to start vino-server.service: Unit vino-server.service failed to load: Invalid argument. See system logs and 'systemctl status vino-server.service' for details." [09:46] <austin4123> Running systemctl status vino-server.service gives me: [09:47] <austin4123> http://i.imgur.com/loKHrPe.png [09:49] <darkxst> you probably messed up the execstart.execstop lines somewhoe [09:50] <darkxst> somehow [09:54] <austin4123> http://i.imgur.com/A3GUTq0.png [09:55] <austin4123> I copied and pasted the code, replaced "vncserver" with "vino-server", replace <USER> with "b", my username [09:55] <darkxst> austin4123, the "quotes" have gone funny [09:55] <austin4123> lol [09:56] <darkxst> fix those and it will probably work better! [10:03] <austin4123> almost a same error: http://i.imgur.com/F8Fjc5d.png [10:03] <austin4123> I've rebooted the system [10:03] <austin4123> could it be because vino-server is not in /usr/bin? [10:06] <darkxst> you need to use the correct path [10:06] <darkxst> /usr/lib/vino/vino-server [10:10] <austin4123> Changed the paths, got the same error: http://i.imgur.com/loKHrPe.png [10:11] <darkxst> austin4123, the error is probably because your quotes are messed up [10:12] <austin4123> darkxst http://i.imgur.com/sRPKrsT.png [10:13] <austin4123> btw when i tried to save the file, i got this: "(gedit:1980): Gtk-WARNING **: Calling Inhibit failed: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files" [10:14] <darkxst> austin4123, execstop opens with " but closes with ' [10:21] <darkxst> austin4123, also [Install] should probably be on a new line [10:23] <darkxst> austin4123, also possibly might need to be using backticks `, since its passing to the shell [10:24] <austin4123> so use ` for both opening and closing? [10:27] <darkxst> austin4123, maybe, though probably the most important bit is that open and closing match [10:28] <darkxst> "some string' is never going to work ever [10:29] <austin4123> darkxst alright so i tried copying and pasting the quotes directly. this is the current code: http://i.imgur.com/RmtJEvK.png [10:29] <austin4123> it gives me this error: "(gedit:2139): Gtk-WARNING **: Calling Inhibit failed: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files" when i tried to save it [10:30] <darkxst> austin4123, you do not want wordproccesor friendly quotes in a script [10:30] <darkxst> I would try ' for exec start/stop and if that dont work then ` [10:30] <austin4123> darkxst ok. [10:31] <darkxst> bash probably doesnt even understand unicode quotes [10:31] <darkxst> dash definately wont [10:34] <austin4123> darkxst just tried ' for both exec start and exec stop and it didnt work: http://i.imgur.com/n5nidql.png [10:34] <austin4123> trying ` now [10:35] <austin4123> darkxst using backticks: http://i.imgur.com/G2aO5Ec.png gave me this error: "(gedit:2335): Gtk-WARNING **: Calling Inhibit failed: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files" [10:36] <austin4123> when i tried to save it [10:37] <austin4123> the current filename is "vino-server.service" [10:40] * darkxst goes, must eat [21:52] <Noskcaj> darkxst, Can we sync g-o-a or does it switching to webkit2gtk break stuff? [23:18] <darkxst> Noskcaj, webkit switch is probably ok, but not sure if the yahoo removal will affect g-c-c
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2015-06-14-#ubuntu-server
[01:08] <MACscr> any advice for simply switching to the virtual kernel and thus updates will keep using thew newest virtual kernel as well? [01:26] <jak2000> hi all [01:27] <jak2000> how to change the ip of the server? [09:22] <lordievader> Good morning. [10:12] <Gregor3000> hello i need help with SSH i keep getitng the passphrase qustion: Authenticating with public key "imported-openssh-key" ; Passphrase for key "imported-openssh-key": [10:12] <Gregor3000> once i enter it it authenticates but when i exit and try to login again it asks for password again. [10:13] <Gregor3000> i am using putty and i imported the linux key hence the comment - "imported-openssh-key" [10:14] <lordievader> Gregor3000: The passphrase is whatever you set it to. [10:16] <Gregor3000> i've entered it but when i logout and again log back in i again get the prompt. i dont' want the server to asks for passphrase every time [10:16] <Gregor3000> PasswordAuthentication no [10:16] <Gregor3000> ah it means i need to create a key with no passphrase? [10:37] <lordievader> Gregor3000: No, that is a bad idea. You need to run an ssh agent. [11:57] <StathisA> need some help with apticron...had it all working correctly - sending daily notification from cron.d etc, but had to change the notification time. Now whatever time I enter I do not get any notifications. If I manually do a "sudo apticron" I get the notification alright [11:57] <StathisA> so smth is wrong with the cron.d schedule? [11:58] <StathisA> syslog : Jun 14 14:10:01 servername CRON[1008]: (root) CMD (if test -x /usr/sbin/apticron; then /usr/sbin/apticron --cron; else true; fi) [11:58] <StathisA> but nothing else after it [11:58] <StathisA> if i do a manual "sudo apticron" I see the mail going out in the syslog... [11:59] <StathisA> via localhost postfix [11:59] <StathisA> and I receive it too on my mailbox [11:59] <StathisA> so somethings up with the cron job i think [12:38] <YamakasY> any help with building a sssd package ? [13:48] <DWSR> Hey all, I have installed Ubuntu Server 14.04 into a Hyper-V VM. I installed linux-virtual through apt but it is not being loaded by default and there is no grub menu to select which kernel I want. How do I remove all of the generic kernels from my system and force virtual? [14:08] <DWSR> Hey all, I have installed Ubuntu Server 14.04 into a Hyper-V VM. I installed linux-virtual through apt but it is not being loaded by default and there is no grub menu to select which kernel I want. How do I remove all of the generic kernels from my system and force virtual? [14:16] <RoyK> DWSR: AFAIK the virtual kernel package is just a metapackage these days [14:16] <RoyK> DWSR: the normal kernel packages work well [14:19] <DWSR> Oh, really? :( [14:19] <DWSR> RoyK: Someone should tell Microsoft then: https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dn531029.aspx?f=255&MSPPError=-2147217396 [14:21] <DWSR> Ah yes, you are correct. [14:21] <DWSR> http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/linux-virtual [14:21] <DWSR> When did that change? [14:26] <RoyK> DWSR: not sure - some years back [14:27] <DWSR> Oh well, that answers that. Might build a custom kernel that strips out some of the hardware support. [14:30] <RoyK> no need [14:31] <RoyK> drivers are only loaded when needed [14:32] <RoyK> DWSR: do you have problems you're seeking to fix, or is it just the thought? [14:34] <DWSR> RoyK: I'm a bit constrained on resources, so making the kernel smaller seems like a reasonable way to optimize. [14:35] <DWSR> But I completely forgot about DDL. [14:36] <DWSR> Eh, probably more trouble than it's worth, then [15:41] <jak2000> hi all [15:41] <jak2000> how to disable, my server sleep, i dont want the server sleep, tahnks [17:18] <xperia> Hi all. My Ubuntu Server is under a spam attack at the moment and i need help with ip tables to block this Spammers. My question is how can i list all the tables with iptables so i can only export a specific table or better target. i have a script that log all attacks and i can create a file list specific for iptables to import it but i need to know how exactly this file need to look a like. [17:48] <zermanno> Hi, which are the common ways to analyze log files? As an example, how people query apache logs? [18:09] <teward> is there a way for me to force IPv4 resolution preferable to v6 on servers? [18:09] <teward> i haven't set up v6 routing yet on some of my VPSes so they fail updates, i'm just doing manual v4 /etc/hosts entries [18:09] <teward> (14.04 VPSes) [18:10] <maswan> don't configure a global v6 address if you don't have it working? [18:12] <teward> maswan: i don't have one configured? [18:12] <teward> unless something is doing it without telling me [18:12] * teward shrugs [18:12] <teward> i should set up at least one v6 imo *shrugs* [18:13] <maswan> ip addr list [18:13] <maswan> will tell you [18:13] <jelly> maswan: the resolver library tends to give AAAA records in some cases regardless of a globally routable ipv6 being set up or not [18:14] <maswan> Ok, I don't run many v4-only systems anymore [18:15] <maswan> but that used to be the semantics of it [18:16] <teward> it's only a temporary thing, but meh [18:16] <teward> v6 is finnicky on this box [18:16] <teward> s/this box/these boxes/ [18:17] <teward> mm, looks like v6 is still getting set as a route [18:17] <teward> but then it fails [18:32] <teward> god i hate myself [18:32] <teward> i accidentally ip6tables'd the rules such that lo was accepted but RELATED,ESTABLISHED going outbound from apt and such was getting bounced [18:33] <teward> routing was fine though apparently :/ [19:42] <RoyK> teward: hehe [22:29] <xperia> hi all. what is the best way to increase the amount of possible parallel connection for apache2 on ubuntu. sometimes i have spamer attacks with over 1000 Connection that blocks everything at once. need help with this. thanks for any tips. [22:32] <bekks> Drop his connections instead of pointlessly increasing the total number of connections. [22:35] <xperia> bekks: thanks a lot for your tip. yes droping the connection sound good but how can i find out which connection to drop and if possible to log this droped connections so i can use iptables. [22:35] <bekks> Investigate your webservers log files. [22:36] <xperia> i dont see any errors for timeouts in the apache log files. not sure if apache logs tmeouts by default. [22:36] <bekks> Why do you search for timeouts? [22:37] <bekks> Investigate the log files to see how and from where your spamming is actually spamming. [22:37] <bekks> It has nothing to do with timeouts. Timeouts only occur of your webserver cant handle the requests anymore. [22:39] <xperia> bekks: for what else should i search else ? the connections by apache are closed after 10 seconds timeouts so it would be good to log this problematic connections. i dont see however this spammer connection anywhere in the logs however i see them on the router allways in a 10 Minute Interval. [22:40] <bekks> I just told you what to look for. [22:46] <xperia> okey i have found a good monitor tracker for apache2 to get a insight what is going on with the server. think this will help a little to isolate the problem much more.
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2015-06-14-#ubuntu-ro
[08:20] <nikolaeniki> sal [08:36] <Guest99943> salutare oameni buni
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2015-06-14-#ubuntu-si
[05:48] <jabuk> M 1.4 > 3.km JV od TOPOLŠICE @14/06/2015 02:31:29 https://maps.google.com/?q=46.38+N,+15.04+E [05:48] <jabuk> M 1.3 > 28.km V od KARLOVCA (HRVAŠKA) @13/06/2015 16:51:30 https://maps.google.com/?q=45.42+N,+15.91+E [08:38] <CrazyLemon> .vreme ljubljana [08:38] <jabuk> ARSO: Ljubljana (299m): 24°C @14.06.2015 8:00 UTC. [08:38] <jabuk> Vlažnost: 53% severovzhodnik 0.9 m/s zmerno oblačno [08:38] <jabuk> Sončni vzhod: 03:11:46, Kulminacija: 11:03:31, Sončni zahod: 18:55:16 [08:38] <jabuk> Dan je dolg: 15ur 43min 30s, Luna je v ščipu [08:38] <CrazyLemon> oh.. lepa temperatura za maraton [08:39] <CrazyLemon> .radar [08:39] <jabuk> Radarska slika padavin: http://www.arso.gov.si/vreme/napovedi%20in%20podatki/radar_anim.gif [08:52] <zdobbie> mone [09:17] <CrazyLemon> http://www.engadget.com/2015/06/14/amazon-transparency-report/ [09:17] <Seniorita> Amazon's first transparency report details data requests for 2015 [09:17] <Seniorita> »Amazon has finally published a bi-annual transparency report (PDF), revealing the kinds of data requests it received from the government in recent months« [09:43] <yang> .vreme lj [09:43] <jabuk> ARSO: Ljubljana (299m): 26°C @14.06.2015 9:00 UTC. [09:43] <jabuk> Vlažnost: 46% severnik 0.7 m/s zmerno oblačno [09:43] <jabuk> Sončni vzhod: 03:11:47, Kulminacija: 11:03:21, Sončni zahod: 18:54:56 [09:43] <jabuk> Dan je dolg: 15ur 43min 09s, Luna je v ščipu [10:03] <lynxlynxlynx> bum, še pred poldnevom nazaj :) [10:47] <zdobbie> bum, zdej bos pa oblezal [10:53] <zdobbie> (ker si zmatran, ne ker se tepemo) [13:01] <zdobbie> .imdb the kingsman [13:01] <jabuk> Ne najdem! [13:01] <zdobbie> .imdb kingsman [13:01] <jabuk> Kingsman: Tajna sluzba (2014) 129 min Action Adventure Comedy [13:01] <jabuk> Ocena: 7.9/10 (200,855 glasov) MT: 58/100 [13:01] <jabuk> A spy organization recruits an unrefined, but promising street kid into the agency's ultra-competitive training program, just as a global threat emerges from a twisted tech genius. [13:01] <jabuk> Trailer: http://www.imdb.com/video/imdb/vi1901244185/ [13:01] <jabuk> Povezava: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2802144/ [13:01] <zdobbie> :O [13:06] <zdobbie> .radar [13:06] <jabuk> Radarska slika padavin: http://www.arso.gov.si/vreme/napovedi%20in%20podatki/radar_anim.gif [13:51] <CrazyLemon> https://twitter.com/Philae2014/status/610047412036595712 [13:51] <Seniorita> Philae Lander auf Twitter: "Hello Earth! Can you hear me? #WakeUpPhilae" [14:11] <zdobbie> sassy Philae [14:11] <zdobbie> can YOU hear US?? [14:28] <msevph> A se komu da mi pomagat pr particiranju hehe [14:29] <msevph> Ubistvu za dva racunalnika bi se dodatn distro zravn dal vsakemu :) [14:29] <CrazyLemon> just do it [14:30] <msevph> Blem je k nevem kva te sda pa te zadeve pomenjo :) [14:30] <CrazyLemon> sata disk A je prvi disk B je drugi disk etc [14:31] <CrazyLemon> sda1 pomeni prvi disk prva particija [14:31] <CrazyLemon> vse se da poguglat sine..vse! [14:38] <msevph> Aha razumem hvala [14:38] <msevph> No bom vidu ce mi rata :) [14:39] <msevph> Za tega netbooka ni tak problem, bl za laptop k ma se drug alternativen OS gor :-P (sem previden zj v besedah hehe :)) da ne bo ban hammer padu [14:45] <skyx> dz0ny ping? [14:45] <skyx> anyone here? [15:09] <CrazyLemon> https://www.reddit.com/r/Slovenia/comments/39sik7/i_came_i_saw_i_loved_it/ [15:09] <Seniorita> I came, I saw, I loved it : Slovenia [15:09] <Seniorita> »Hey Slovenia, I last saw you guys here: http://www.reddit.com/r/Slovenia/comments/31m3xx/what_would_you_do_with_a_car_and_2_weeks_in/ and wanted...« [15:18] <anny_> dan [15:24] <CrazyLemon> o franja [15:24] <CrazyLemon> buhdej [15:53] <CrazyLemon> .radar [15:53] <jabuk> Radarska slika padavin: http://www.arso.gov.si/vreme/napovedi%20in%20podatki/radar_anim.gif [15:53] <CrazyLemon> shit's about to hit the fan! [15:54] <anny_> CrazyLemon, pri vas že pada? [15:54] <CrazyLemon> anny_ kmalu [15:54] <CrazyLemon> zelo kmalu [15:54] <CrazyLemon> tmno je [15:55] <anny_> upam, da bo samo dež zalil [15:55] <CrazyLemon> http://www.blitzortung.org/Webpages/index.php?lang=en&page=1 [15:55] <Seniorita> Blitzortung.org – live lightning map – live thunderstorms [15:55] <Seniorita> »Storm map with live lightning strikes, based on data from the lightning detection network Blitzortung.org.« [15:55] <CrazyLemon> anny_ se bojiš toče? [15:56] <CrazyLemon> evo pada [15:56] <anny_> jaz sem na varnem, pridelki niso [15:56] <CrazyLemon> anny_ to sux ja [15:56] <CrazyLemon> mi sicer mamo majhn vrt ampak smo dali gor mrežo [15:56] <CrazyLemon> a sem pozabu povedat da se je pravkar maša začela pred mojimi vrati? :D [15:56] <anny_> pametno [15:57] <anny_> kakšna Maša? [15:57] <CrazyLemon> maša maša [15:57] <CrazyLemon> petje and stuff [15:57] <CrazyLemon> in lih se je ulilo :D [15:57] <anny_> kaj pa imajo? [15:57] <CrazyLemon> anny_ kapelica je zravn [15:57] <anny_> aja [15:57] <anny_> kdo bil na franji? [15:58] <CrazyLemon> vsaj 3k kolesarjev! [15:58] <CrazyLemon> pa ti :) [15:58] <anny_> ja [15:58] <CrazyLemon> so meli kr srečo da ni bilo tako vroče [15:58] <anny_> ja prav v redu je bilo [15:59] <CrazyLemon> zdaj pa konkretno lije..pa vsi so utihnili [15:59] <CrazyLemon> :DD [15:59] <anny_> žlehtko [15:59] <CrazyLemon> ma ja in ne.. vsi so skregani pa pol en dan v letu pa se delajo kot da je vse lepo in fajn :) [15:59] <anny_> aja...zato se je nebo zjokalo? [16:00] <CrazyLemon> na začetku je cela vas sodelovala.. je vsak nekaj naredu in prinesel [16:00] <CrazyLemon> sedaj pa sodelujejo določeni posamezniki [16:00] <anny_> kot vedno [16:01] <CrazyLemon> mhm [16:01] <CrazyLemon> uff kako lepo dežuje [16:01] <anny_> aha, na franji je bil kolesar, ki je imal ubuntu napisano čez dres in na bidonu [16:02] <anny_> kdo pozna? [16:02] <CrazyLemon> anny_ ja..sej tu je tudi :) [16:02] * CrazyLemon points at lord [16:02] <anny_> ;) [16:02] <anny_> kaj pravi? [16:03] <CrazyLemon> ? [16:03] <anny_> no dobil je še dodatek, ki ga ni vsak :) [16:04] <CrazyLemon> lepo njemu! :) [16:04] <anny_> imeli smo energijske gele za tiste, ki so se tresli :) [16:04] <CrazyLemon> lol [16:04] <anny_> no ta se n [16:05] * CrazyLemon se vedno trese [16:05] <anny_> *ni [16:05] <CrazyLemon> no vsaj roki se [16:05] <anny_> to je znak, da manjka magnezija [16:05] <CrazyLemon> naah [16:05] <anny_> ja [16:05] <CrazyLemon> sm pil donat pa ni bilo sprememb [16:05] <anny_> tiste zalijemo z juho [16:06] <anny_> v glavnem sol [16:06] <anny_> takoj učinkuje :) [16:11] <CrazyLemon> Line Rate - Upstream (Kbps): 874 [16:11] <CrazyLemon> Line Rate - Downstream (Kbps): 5634 [16:11] <jabuk> http://stuffpoint.com/family-guy/image/56246-family-guy-victory-is-his.gif [16:11] <jabuk> http://rack.3.mshcdn.com/media/ZgkyMDEzLzA4LzA1L2U1L2NvbGJlcnRyZXBvLjVjNmYxLmdpZgpwCXRodW1iCTg1MHg1OTA-CmUJanBn/710824a0/764/colbert-report.jpg [16:12] <CrazyLemon> stupid siol..2x zagrmi pa hitrost na pol pade [16:14] <anny_> je šlo že mimo? [16:14] <CrazyLemon> nope..še dežuje ampak ne tako intenzivno [16:39] <CrazyLemon> 1:0 [16:49] <LorD_DDooM> anny_: Jaz imam tak dres. Pa v Tacnu sem red sobil en repete. [16:49] <LorD_DDooM> red=res* [16:49] <LorD_DDooM> dobil [16:52] <zdobbie> .radar [16:52] <jabuk> Radarska slika padavin: http://www.arso.gov.si/vreme/napovedi%20in%20podatki/radar_anim.gif [18:03] <zdobbie> BUT MAYBE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmKw7Oqmhr0 [18:03] <Seniorita> Louis CK - Of Course But Maybe. Very Funny! - YouTube [18:03] <Seniorita> »Louis C.K. the Best Comedian ever. Louis CK Stand Up comedy show. Part of Louis C.K.: Oh My God (2013) stand up special comedy full show. Louis CK - Of Cours...« [19:51] <zdobbie> http://www.theverge.com/2015/6/9/8745667/fpv-drone-racing-sport-of-the-future [19:51] <Seniorita> Racing drones through a forest is the sport of the future | The Verge [19:51] <Seniorita> »The crowd at East Grinstead makes for an odd sight — most of them are wearing plastic goggles with long antennas sticking up, apparently ignoring their surroundings and staring out into empty...« [19:55] <Sky[x]> lp [20:02] <Sky[x]> kje ste vsi ? :) [20:02] <Sky[x]> a se hladite zunaj ? :P [20:04] <msev_> a je kdo od vs kdaj mel naenkrat in xfce in mate DE, in ali vam je ob preklapljanju kj nastavitve borkal (npr. če ste mel v enem eno temo in v drugem drugačno)? [20:07] <Sky[x]> nimam pojma :) [20:10] <yang> Z Boro Čorbo sem se fotkal danes [20:10] <Sky[x]> bmtis [20:10] <Sky[x]> z nginx cache se mal igram pa mi sploh ne rata usposobit da bi zadeva delala :> [20:10] <Sky[x]> grr [20:10] <Sky[x]> ze kdo delal s tem? [20:18] <CrazyLemon> msev_ borka se samo če shranijo v enako datoteko enake nastavitve [20:18] <msev_> ja pol so se zgleda [20:18] <msev_> zgleda xfce in cinnamon uporabljata neke enake zadeve [21:17] <yang> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ED-lpdCeGY#t=40m [21:17] <Seniorita> Riblja Corba // Koncert u Areni DRUGI DEO - YouTube
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2015-06-14-#ubuntu-africa
[07:18] <Kilos> helloo africa [09:10] <ariabbas> . [09:10] <Kilos> hi ariabbas how are you? [09:14] <ariabbas> Kilos: fine and you ? [09:14] <Kilos> fine ty just cold. i dont enjoy winter [09:34] <ariabbas> :-D [09:34] <ariabbas> Kilos: sorry for you. [09:34] <Kilos> ty ariabbas , are you the man that melodie got to join us here? [09:35] <Kilos> some college or university or something? [09:40] <ariabbas> Kilos: it's 33°C where i'm now ;-) [09:40] <ariabbas> Kilos: no :-) [09:41] <Kilos> lovely email me some [09:41] <ariabbas> https://launchpad.net/~ariabbas [09:41] <Kilos> oh my i get mixed up with people [09:41] <ariabbas> :-D [09:41] <ariabbas> --> ubuntu-cm ;-) [09:42] <Kilos> oh cool [09:42] <Kilos> ongolaboy is also there [09:44] <Kilos> https://launchpad.net/~msdomdonner [09:44] <Kilos> thats me [09:50] <ariabbas> yes ongolaboy is an ubuntu-cm team admin and contact [09:50] <ariabbas> http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/kmer/ [09:51] <Kilos> you guys must invite all your members to join us , or get them to join the mailing list [09:51] <Kilos> someime next month ill start organizing a meeting here so we can all get to know each other [09:52] <Kilos> sometime [09:53] <ariabbas> ok [09:53] <ariabbas> ;-) [09:53] <Kilos> :) [11:31] <Kilos> hi alphad [16:46] <Kilos> well, i am now going to try attract all the locos by subscribing to their mailing lists [16:48] <Kilos> QA coffee on [16:48] * QA starts grinding coffee [16:52] <QA> Coffee's ready for Kilos! [16:52] <Kilos> QA thanks [16:52] <QA> no worries, Kilos [20:00] <jut_> Hello world
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2015-06-14-#ubuntu-vn
[16:02] <wingadium> mấy nay github chết chả edit đc wii lewtds [16:03] <CoconutCrab> mạng ngon rồi mà [16:03] <CoconutCrab> :3 [16:03] * wingadium không vào được github [16:06] <lewtds> ts nhìn facebook ubuntu-vn thêm một lúc nữa chắc tức mà chết mất [16:07] <CoconutCrab> why? [16:09] <lewtds> stupeeed people saying stuuuped things [16:09] <lewtds> thôi đi nghe nhạc hạ hỏa [16:10] <CoconutCrab> it's your fault for using the internet [16:10] <CoconutCrab> :3 [16:10] <CoconutCrab> using facebook* [16:13] <MrTuxHdb> lewtds: =)) [16:13] <MrTuxHdb> lewtds: mấy bạn đang nghĩ mình thôi minh [16:24] <wingadium> help me plz [16:25] * MrTuxHdb đè wingadium ra hiếp [16:25] <MrTuxHdb> wingadium: có account trên wiki mới chưa ta [16:26] <wingadium> chưa có thấy MrTuxHdb nói gì đâu [16:26] <wingadium> anw hiếp /me cẩn thận phản damage =))) [16:27] <MrTuxHdb> wingadium: đợi téo gửi link [16:28] <wingadium> okie [16:29] <MrTuxHdb> wingadium: reg account đi [16:29] <MrTuxHdb> mình setpassword cho [16:30] <MrTuxHdb> tại chưa setup email [16:30] <wingadium> wingadium luôn [16:31] <wingadium> nhưng ko thấy link reg đâu [16:31] <MrTuxHdb> chữ Register to tổ bố [16:31] <MrTuxHdb> lolz [16:32] <MrTuxHdb> wingadium: gửi link qua PM rồi còn gi [16:33] <wingadium> sr /me ko để ý [16:34] <lewtds> MrTuxHdb: apply cái patch hôm trước đi [16:34] <lewtds> k apply được tự động thì làm bằng tay [16:34] <lewtds> có mấy dòng thôi mà [16:36] * MrTuxHdb còn chưa biết nó để làm gì [16:36] * wingadium ấn reg nó báo mail ko hợp lệ =)) [16:38] <lewtds> bảo rồi mà [16:38] <lewtds> cái hàm đó nó dùng để tạo link từ tên bài viết [16:38] <lewtds> ví dụ mình có bài viết [16:39] <lewtds> [[Cài đặt Ubuntu]] thì theo luật thông thường của dokku [16:39] <lewtds> nó sẽ tạo link là cai_dat_ubuntu [16:39] <lewtds> nhưng cái hàm đó [16:39] <lewtds> nó bị lỗi [16:39] <lewtds> nên chỉ hỗ trợ một số ký tự [16:39] <lewtds> nên sẽ ra một cái link hổ lốn kiểu [16:39] <lewtds> cai_đặt_ubuntu [16:40] <lewtds> khi paste vào đây thì nó sẽ thành ntn: http://www.quora.com/c%C3%A0i%20%C4%91%E1%BA%B7t%20ubuntu [16:40] <SuperLuserv3> [ Error 404 - Quora ] - www.quora.com [16:40] * wingadium không hiểu lắm =))) [16:41] <MrTuxHdb> lewtds: gửi lại cái patch xem nào [16:42] <lewtds> https://gist.github.com/lewtds/019df599122952e1c02b [16:42] <SuperLuserv3> [ utf8_deaccent.diff ] - gist.github.com [16:43] * MrTuxHdb ngộ độc php [16:43] <MrTuxHdb> =)) [16:45] <MrTuxHdb> lewtds: my bad [16:45] <MrTuxHdb> vừa comment php bằng # [16:45] <MrTuxHdb> =))
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2015-06-14-#ubuntu-us-fl
[02:28] <ahoneybun> mhall119: around tonight?
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2015-06-14-#juju-dev
[21:24] <davecheney> thumper: here is an example http://paste.ubuntu.com/11716589/ [21:24] * thumper looks [21:43] <thumper> davecheney: I have been noticing many intermittent failures with cmd/jujud/agent [21:44] <thumper> davecheney: running that package tests with the race detector has indicated a number of data races [21:44] <thumper> davecheney: just wanted to check you weren't looking at that package now [21:49] * thumper headdesks [22:09] <thumper> wallyworld: love a chat when you turn up [22:20] <wallyworld> ok, will ping you after another coffee [22:34] <wallyworld> thumper: free now in 1:1 if you want [22:35] <thumper> coming [23:07] <thumper> wallyworld: http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/1925/ [23:07] <thumper> wallyworld: wasn't able to fix the intermittent failure with this [23:07] <thumper> but it does fix the races [23:08] <thumper> menn0: if you are curious later, waitForUpgradeToFinish in cmd/jujud/agent/upgrade_test fails intermittently for some weird reason [23:09] <menn0> thumper: do you have any details? [23:10] <thumper> menn0: nope... only that I had it fail here, then pass 8 times in a row [23:10] <thumper> menn0: this test -> UpgradeSuite.TestUpgradeStepsHostMachine [23:10] <thumper> menn0: just fails with false is not true [23:10] <wallyworld> ok, will look aftr standup [23:11] <thumper> wallyworld: cheers [23:11] <menn0> thumper: I believe there's a ticket for that one already [23:11] <thumper> yeah [23:11] <menn0> thumper: that test actually predates me but I've worked a lot with that area so i'll take a look [23:14] <menn0> thumper: bug 1444576 is the closest match [23:14] <mup> Bug #1444576: Skipped TestUpgradeSteps* in cmd/jujud/agent/upgrade_test.go <skipped-test> <test-failure> <juju-core:Triaged by menno.smits> <juju-core 1.24:Triaged by menno.smits> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1444576> [23:15] <menn0> thumper: i've just grabbed it although it'll be a friday afternoon one [23:15] <thumper> kk [23:44] <thumper> menn0: re: http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/1924/diff/# you were mentioning that you don't actually have to close the iterators, is that right? [23:46] <menn0> thumper: yeah it's not critical, the servers kills iterators after 10mins of inactivity anywayu [23:46] <thumper> but the code is fine, right? [23:46] <menn0> thumper: the code you reviewed is fine [23:46] * thumper -> gym [23:47] <menn0> thumper: closing the session to force the blocked next call to unblock is not [23:47] <menn0> thumper: depending where mgo is at, it might panci [23:51] <davecheney> thumper: menn0 i'll look at jujud/agent next when I'm done with this PR
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2015-06-14-#ubuntu-women-project
[21:02] * AlanBell frowns at people trying to earn a ban
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2015-06-14-#ubuntu-touch
[00:27] <melvster> has anyone tried running telegram on ubuntu touch? [00:36] <AlexandreSa> melvster: I'm has installed telegram in my ubuntu touch without problem. [00:38] <AlexandreSa> I'm use Nexus 4. With Mako Image [00:46] <melvster> AlexandreSa: thats fantastic news, thanks. Did you install the web version or the native ubuntu app? [00:48] <AlexandreSa> melvster: I was installed the native app. [00:48] <melvster> awesome, thanks! [00:49] <AlexandreSa> melvster: You are welcome [01:44] <AlexandreSa> I like know if have some scope to integrate at OwnCloud service. [01:50] <OerHeks> AlexandreSa, not yet ... https://uappexplorer.com/apps?q=owncloud [01:50] <AlexandreSa> OerHeks: ThankYou [04:46] <bzoltan> zyga: sadly I can not make it to the FOSDEM. We have found a simple problem with that package, the UITK examples conflict with the archive UITK example package. But it is not a problem, just remove and reinstall the distro UITK example. [07:20] <h2o64> Hi ! I'm working on ubuntu touch for my Moto G but LXC container is crashing my kernel (break=mountroot is the proof). Can someone help me ? [08:39] <cedian_linux> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11712805/ got some problems [08:46] <h2o64> @cedian_linux you need to do 'make cyanogenmod_bacon_defconfig' first [08:47] <cedian_linux> not found [08:47] <h2o64> Really ? [08:47] <h2o64> Wierd [08:48] <cedian_linux> I'll try to make [08:48] <h2o64> cd android_kernel_oneplus_one && make cyanogenmod_bacon_defconfig [08:48] <cedian_linux> I know that [08:49] <h2o64> No ! You set the 3.19.0-18-generic config :p [08:49] <cedian_linux> I didn't [08:49] <cedian_linux> it wasn't me [08:49] <h2o64> do cat arch/arm/configs/cyanogenmod_bacon_defconfig [08:49] <h2o64> you did by calling the old-config thing [08:50] <cedian_linux> it's there [08:50] <h2o64> Maybe [08:50] <h2o64> cp arch/arm/configs/cyanogenmod_bacon_defconfig .config [08:50] <h2o64> will manually use it [08:55] <cedian_linux> it asks for pc stuff [08:55] <h2o64> Yes because you set the thing to use your PC defconfig [08:56] <cedian_linux> no I copied as you sai [08:57] <h2o64> That's wierd ... [08:57] <h2o64> Did you said the ARCH=arm [08:57] <cedian_linux> no now I dud [08:58] <cedian_linux> unrecognized values [08:59] <h2o64> Could you pastebin this ? [09:00] <cedian_linux> I'll do [09:02] <cedian_linux> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11712886/ the letters are wrong because of no utf-8 [09:06] <cedian_linux> fixed signs: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11712894/ [09:08] <cedian_linux> h2o64: I've added it [09:09] <h2o64> Did you try make clean and then make again ? [09:26] <cedian_linux> no [09:26] <h2o64> try :p [09:26] <cedian_linux> I'm oing it [09:27] <cedian_linux> still doing [09:27] <cedian_linux> errors [09:28] <h2o64> hmmm [09:28] <h2o64> Maybe clone made shit [09:28] <cedian_linux> it's cloned indeed, but for ubuntu touch [09:45] <cedian_linux> I fund a .config [11:28] <cedian_linux> I get a boot.img of 700 kb [12:18] <cedian_linux> Can't add modules [12:28] <cedian_linux> got a 700 kb size image [13:01] <cedian_linux> got the error no rule to make target cnd [13:15] <cedian_linux> prepare0 fails [14:25] <bunty> Hi guys, I am facing problem with X11 Server on ubuntu touch from command line. anybody has any idea about it? [14:29] <Sleep_Walker> sorry for not helping you, but you're running X11 at the same time as MIR? or it is some X server for MIR? [14:55] <mariogrip> i see a new folder on the system-image server called "ubuntu-personal" what is that? snappy desktop? :D [15:14] <cedian_linux> I've found out the click packages archives, I won't talk too much about it though [15:15] <cedian_linux> it's a site [15:24] <nik90> mariogrip: In the recent Q&A, it was mentioned that snappy personal would be used for user desktops..could it be that? [15:25] <nik90> it would contain necessary stuff like unity8, mir etc...while snappy would just be the core that is used for other devices like pi, beagle boards etc. [15:32] <cedian_linux> mariogrip: I got some issues with compiling, but it seems it continues [15:46] <mariogrip> nik90: :D That's cool [15:47] <mariogrip> cedian_linux: do you have some logs? [15:47] <cedian_linux> yes [15:50] <cedian_linux> mariogrip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11714821/ [15:51] <mariogrip> for me it seems like you don't have the correct version of gcc [15:52] <cedian_linux> ok [15:52] <mariogrip> btw, are you still using -i? [15:52] <cedian_linux> mariogrip which should I use? yes [15:53] <cedian_linux> else it still buggss out [15:53] <mariogrip> http://wiki.ubports.com/index.php/OnePlus_One_Build#Manual_setup_of_development_environment [15:53] <mariogrip> use the tools that are listed there [15:54] <cedian_linux> that doesn't work [15:58] <mariogrip> that should work [15:59] <cedian_linux> it doesn't it gives errors about incompatible so's [16:01] <cedian_linux> and it compiles the kernel partially [16:05] <mariogrip> humm, i think you might need to do some cleanup, and remove -i and fix errors as they come. I haven't seen that error before so i don't know what will fix it. maybe you need to reinstall some tools/remove some tools that overwrite for other tools [16:10] <taiebot> Hi all, As i am on willy not sure if it s really worth opening a bug report. But just in case can someone confirm. If you open contacts app. select a contact,open the messaging app via the little messaging icon. it opens the messaging app but not the correct thread and fails to send any message [16:10] <h2o64> Hey, is somebody ready to help me hack initrd because my LXC container is mountable in recovery but make the kernel panic while booting [16:13] <mariogrip> h2o64: I tried to set console=null on my oneplus one and it gave me and kernel panic, so i really think you need to console=tty0 and remove androidboot.console. [16:15] <h2o64> Shit ! I didn't noticed the androidboot.console. console=tty0 is set. Do you think adb will come thanks to that ? [16:25] <hevyhomie> good evening [16:26] <h2o64> good evening [16:27] <hevyhomie> I am porting touch to motorola moto e, and when I execute lunch, I get: build/core/product_config.mk:222: *** Can not locate config makefile for product "condor". Stop. ** Don't have a product spec for: 'condor' ** Do you have the right repo manifest? [16:27] <hevyhomie> could you guide me what could be the issues? [16:28] <h2o64> I'm porting touch on Motorola Moto G ^^ [16:28] <h2o64> Luk is porting for Moto G 4G [16:28] <h2o64> See here https://github.com/ubuntu-touchCAF [16:32] <hevyhomie> I already have the cm 11.0 binary files, vendor files, kernel files and the manifests as well, where should I put them? [16:32] <hevyhomie> in the phablet dir [16:34] <h2o64> First sync ubuntuTouch CAF [16:34] <h2o64> then you do a local_manifest like this one [16:34] <h2o64> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>  [16:34] <h2o64> <!-- Falcon Trees --> [16:34] <h2o64> <project name="ubuntu-touchCAF/android_device_motorola_falcon" path="device/motorola/falcon" remote="github" revision="ubuntu-touch" /> [16:34] <h2o64> <project name="ubuntu-touchCAF/android_device_motorola_msm8226-common" path="device/motorola/msm8226-common" remote="github" revision="ubuntu-touch" /> [16:34] <h2o64> <project name="CyanogenMod/android_device_qcom_common" path="device/qcom/common" remote="github" revision="cm-11.0" /> [16:34] <h2o64> <project name="ubuntu-touchCAF/android_kernel_motorola_msm8226" path="kernel/motorola/msm8226" remote="github" revision="ubuntu-touch" /> [16:34] <h2o64> <project name="ubuntu-touchCAF/proprietary_vendor_motorola" path="vendor/motorola" remote="github" revision="ubuntu-touch_OLD" />  [16:34] <h2o64> Replace with the condor things. Then you have a few patches to apply on trees and kernel. APK/JAR has to be remove from vendor, and you are good to go [16:35] <cedian_linux> mariogrip: if I remove tools it gives errors that it may break my system [16:47] <mariogrip> h2o64: btw did you replace the adbd this a unlocked one? [16:47] <mariogrip> cedian_linux: yeah, don't remove them if they break your system [16:48] <cedian_linux> ok [16:48] <cedian_linux> what are dtb files mariogrip? [16:48] <h2o64> The unlocked one provided by you or canonical ? [16:49] <mariogrip> by ogra_ one of the ubuntu developer [16:49] <h2o64> Errr ... No I didn't [16:49] <mariogrip> http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/adbd [16:49] <cedian_linux> and mariogrip do you got the original .config? [16:49] <mariogrip> see all the way down on this page h2o64 https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/ubuntu-for-devices/porting-new-device/ [16:50] <mariogrip> cedian_linux: what .config? [16:50] <cedian_linux> of your kernel [16:50] <h2o64> Ahhh ! That's what I was checking. No I don't use it. I should ? [16:50] <cedian_linux> because I can't get it working [16:51] <mariogrip> cedian_linux: do you mean this? https://github.com/ubports/android_kernel_oneplus_one/blob/master/arch/arm/configs/cyanogenmod_bacon_defconfig [16:51] <hevyhomie> how do I paste code here? [16:51] <cedian_linux> that one doesn't work [16:52] <h2o64> mariogrip : Same error. However, I have extra line in the kmsg wich tell me that the crash is mmc related [16:52] <mariogrip> h2o64: the adbd binary shipped with Ubuntu checks if the device's screen is unlocked and if there is a password set for the phablet use, so you need to replace it if you want adb to start before it got mir to start [16:53] <mariogrip> can you send me the kmsg? [16:53] <cedian_linux> it works [16:53] <cedian_linux> I use the android armhf now [16:54] <mariogrip> cedian_linux: okay [16:54] <h2o64> mariogrip : It crashes only 10 seconds after I turn it up. Do you think it will make adb works while a "break" is going on [16:55] <h2o64> mariogrip : here is the log if you're interessting in it http://pastebin.com/MG42nWxW [16:55] <mariogrip> i still see console=null :P [16:55] <h2o64> console=null must be a translate from console=tty0 [16:56] <cedian_linux> mariogrip: should I use ramdisk-recovery.cpio [16:56] <h2o64> mariogrip : here is my cmdline androidboot.hardware=qcom user_debug=31 msm_rtb.filter=0x37 vmalloc=400M utags.blkdev=/dev/block/platform/msm_sdcc.1/by-name/utags androidboot.write_protect=0 console=tty0 apparmor=0 [16:56] <hevyhomie> h2o64: I get an error when i sync http://pastebin.com/06KG6qkM [16:57] <h2o64> hevyhomie : 'rm -rf .repo/manifest* && repo init -u git://github.com/ubuntu-touchCAF/android_local_ubuntu-touchCAF.git -b ubuntu-touch" [16:59] <mariogrip> h2o64: see line 28, it says console=null, i think that is your problem. not syncing: Attempted to kill init! was the same error i got when i set console=null on the oneplus one [17:00] <mariogrip> try to force it to use tty0 somehow [17:02] <mariogrip> yeah, i think that's your problem, i'm 90% sure about that... [17:03] <hevyhomie> h2o64: Im gonna work on it and keep you updated. THank you and God Bless you. Have a wonderful rest of the week. [17:04] <mariogrip> h2o64: use the boot_info tool (http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2033369&d=1370917036) to check your boot.img if it has correct cmdline [17:04] <mariogrip> ./boot_info boot.img [17:05] <h2o64> Actually, my boot.img is already problematic : I have to unpack it each time in order to put a cmdline in it [17:06] <mariogrip> cedian_linux: you cannot use the ramdisk for the recovery for boot.img [17:06] <cedian_linux> thanks [17:06] <mariogrip> h2o64: have you tried to delete the boot.img before make? so it needs to rebuild it [17:07] <h2o64> I did I did [17:07] <cedian_linux> why was my boot.img 700 kb? And what files can be used for boot.img? [17:07] <h2o64> $ adb shell "cat /proc/cmdline" [17:07] <h2o64> console=null androidboot.hardware=qcom user_debug=31 msm_rtb.filter=0x37 vmalloc=400M utags.blkdev=/dev/block/platform/msm_sdcc.1/by-name/utags androidboot.write_protect=0 androidboot.emmc=true androidboot.serialno=TA883031EV androidboot.baseband=msm androidboot.mode=normal androidboot.device=falcon androidboot.hwrev=0x83C0 androidboot.radio=0x1 androidboot.powerup_reason=0x00020000 bootreason=kernel_panic androidboot.write_prote [17:07] <h2o64> :'( [17:08] <mariogrip> have you tried to move common configs file to device config? [17:08] <mariogrip> BoardConfigCommon.mk -> BoardConfig.mk [17:09] <mariogrip> or have them both just that it so it will overwrite [17:09] <h2o64> BoardConfigCommon.mk is directly included by BoardConfig.mk [17:10] <h2o64> I CAN CHANGE IT DIRECTLY IN THE KERNEL !!!!!! Using CONFIG_CMDLINE= [17:10] <h2o64> and CONFIG_CMDLINE_FORCE=y [17:11] <mariogrip> humm, but did you try the boot_info tool? so we can check if it's the image file or the device that has wrong console [17:11] <h2o64> I'll do that I just a minute [17:12] <mariogrip> I hope it's the image file that has wrong cmdline, that's easier to fix xP [17:13] <cedian_linux> mariogrip: why is android-ramdisk.img only 271kb? [17:13] <mariogrip> cedian_linux: i don't know, did you choose the right device in launch? [17:14] <cedian_linux> yes [17:14] <mariogrip> cedian_linux: did you edit anything in the kernel? [17:14] <h2o64> $ ./boot_info boot.img [17:15] <cedian_linux> yes the apparmor [17:15] <cedian_linux> no [17:15] <cedian_linux> sorry [17:15] <cedian_linux> it's 371 kb [17:16] <mariogrip> h2o64: did it output something? [17:17] <mariogrip> cedian_linux: humm, i really don't know what's going on with your build, i suggest you do a full cleanup. [17:17] <cedian_linux> ok [17:18] <mariogrip> cedian_linux: you can push the apparmor patch to a fork of the kernel and i can build it with the ci server [17:18] <cedian_linux> ok [17:19] <cedian_linux> but ci failed [17:19] <mariogrip> cedian_linux: i will fix that [17:26] <h2o64> IRC Crash... Still there ? Did you say something since I posted boot_info results ? [17:27] <mariogrip> h2o64: im here, i didn't get the boot_info [17:27] <mariogrip> can you pastebin it? [17:27] <h2o64> crap [17:27] <h2o64> I will yes :) [17:27] <mariogrip> the irc does not like multiline paste [17:27] <h2o64> (Btw, I'm flashing the build with forced cmdline [17:28] <mariogrip> okay [17:28] <h2o64> http://pastebin.com/Lrbs8wkx [17:29] <h2o64> This build didn't crash 10 sec later for now.. [17:29] <h2o64> adb is un-reachable [17:30] <mariogrip> that's a progress i guess [17:31] <mariogrip> did you add adbd to upstart so it starts at boot? [17:31] <h2o64> crash is gone [17:31] <h2o64> I'm using the same rootstock as you but adpated for my device IDs [17:32] <mariogrip> so it cp the adbd.conf into etc/init [17:33] <mariogrip> and you replaced the adbd in /sbin with the unlocked one? [17:33] <h2o64> I forced-shutdown the device in order to get a kmsg and check if everything's good. And it is. It just spam the "[rev_rmnet8] error: rmnet_ioct called for unsupported cmd[35585]" at the end. Should I wait as long as I can ? [17:33] <h2o64> Yes, cp is done. [17:33] <h2o64> No I didn't replaced adbd [17:34] <mariogrip> you need to do that in order to let it start at boot [17:34] <mariogrip> and you getting unsuppered cmd that's a nice progress [17:34] <h2o64> That's the log I got http://pastebin.com/8MNTzMwk ;) [17:34] <mariogrip> so now we're inside the ubuntu system, [17:35] <mariogrip> that's good, now you can also try to pull syslog that should contain a better log than kmsg [17:36] <mariogrip> syslog is located in var/log inside system.img in data [17:36] <h2o64> I'm replacing the adbd [17:37] <mariogrip> okay, that should bring adbd to life :) [17:37] <h2o64> I place in in ubuntu rootfs sbin ? [17:37] <mariogrip> yes [17:38] <mariogrip> the upstart config starts exec /sbin/adbd [17:38] <mariogrip> btw, did you get my mail? [17:39] <h2o64> I do (just seen it) [17:39] <h2o64> I would be happy to join :) [17:40] <mariogrip> Awesome! :D making you mod on the forum right now [17:40] <h2o64> To change adb I must mount system.img ? [17:41] <mariogrip> yes [17:42] <h2o64> Ouf ! I was worried that something went wrong :p [17:44] <h2o64> still no adb [17:45] <cedian_linux> I do as is said on the forums and get weird output [17:46] <cedian_linux> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11715552/ [17:46] <mariogrip> then i might not have reach to upstart before it crashes, then we need to exstract the syslog without adb, reboot to recovery mount (maybe make a .sh file that does that automatically) and pull var/log/syslog [17:46] <mariogrip> h2o64: ^ [17:47] <cedian_linux> I meant on the wiki mariogrip ^ [17:48] <mariogrip> humm, have you tried to build it without the patch you did just to check if it's the patch that makes the build goes wrong? [17:49] <cedian_linux> no not yet [17:49] <h2o64> mariogrip : syslog does exist [17:49] <mariogrip> pull it and pastebin it [17:50] <h2o64> http://pastebin.com/khPvBMgT [17:50] <mariogrip> ah it does not exist okay. then we are stuck with kmsg [17:51] <mariogrip> cedian_linux: maybe you should try that fist [17:51] <h2o64> I search in the whole hdd : nothing [17:51] <cedian_linux> how? [17:51] <h2o64> (I was talk to mariogrip : "I search in the whole hdd : nothing") [17:52] <mariogrip> cedian_linux: just cut the kernel folder out to a temp folder and resync the repo [17:52] <mariogrip> h2o64: if it exist it should be in var/log. [17:52] <h2o64> I searched just in case [17:53] <mariogrip> btw check dmesg [17:53] <cedian_linux> I'm trying now [17:53] <h2o64> mariogrip : dmesg will show me the recovery log nope ? [17:54] <mariogrip> no, i mean the dmesg in var/log [17:56] <h2o64> /data/tmp/var/log # cat dmesg [17:56] <h2o64> (Nothing has been logged yet.) [17:56] <h2o64> LOL [17:57] <cedian_linux> still fails mariogrip [17:57] <mariogrip> xP then we are stuck with kmsg [17:58] <h2o64> Wiat ... new kmsg is wierd [18:00] <mariogrip> cedian_linux: what fails? make? [18:00] <cedian_linux> yes [18:00] <mariogrip> log? [18:01] <cedian_linux> not yet [18:01] <cedian_linux> didn't make one [18:01] <cedian_linux> I mean a log mariogrip ^ [18:01] <mariogrip> can you send me the output of make+ [18:01] <cedian_linux> yes soon [18:05] <h2o64> (I lost a entire afternoon because of deving xD) [18:06] <mariogrip> xP [18:07] <mariogrip> btw, what i see from the kmsg your android HAL is crashing [18:10] <mariogrip> why are you using cyanogenmod repos? and not aosp from ubuntu git? [18:12] <cedian_linux> mariogrip I don't understand how I should I rebase the packages I need a clear explanation not something like rebase xxx without knowing what xxx must be [18:12] <h2o64> mariogrip : because I want to base ubuntu touch of a CAF rom as CM11 or pure CAF branch itself [18:14] <h2o64> Android HAL crashing ;... interessting [18:14] <h2o64> Lastest longest log http://pastebin.com/Hf67ARY9 [18:16] <mariogrip> h2o64: i don't know, but using CAF might cause problems... I don't know, but i tried caf for oneplus one and it didn't work as well for me, but i probably did something wrong... [18:17] <h2o64> My device can't boot AOSP [18:17] <h2o64> That's why I made such a choice [18:17] <mariogrip> the oneplus one has no AOSP ether but i made it work [18:18] <h2o64> Yes, but you doesn't have RIL and Camera (frameworks) [18:19] <mariogrip> the ril has some problems with ofono, the rild work in the android hal [18:19] <cedian_linux> I can't find the patches it's not good described [18:19] <mariogrip> cedian_linux: in the ubuntu wiki? [18:19] <h2o64> My device is very specific. I know that I can make it boot with AOSP [18:19] <cedian_linux> not described. [18:20] <cedian_linux> I can't find out which I need [18:20] <cedian_linux> and when I rebase it says it is clean [18:20] <mariogrip> cedian_linux: i don't know, i haven't tried yet [18:20] <cedian_linux> ok [18:21] <mariogrip> h2o64: okay [18:21] <cedian_linux> and the patches won't work [18:21] <cedian_linux> I'm getting depressed :P [18:21] <cedian_linux> :( [18:21] <h2o64> Could you (if you have time) test if my sources work on your device mariogrip ? [18:22] <mariogrip> h2o64: sure [18:22] <mariogrip> cedian_linux: you need to stay positive and just try everything :) [18:22] <cedian_linux> I did what I could [18:23] <cedian_linux> searched the whole web nothing found [18:24] <mariogrip> cedian_linux: apparmor is not an easy task if you not have much experience with kernels, so maybe if you want, work on something else that's a little easier? like camera or headphone plug? [18:24] <cedian_linux> That's good [18:25] <cedian_linux> Mariogrip I just need apparmor for now [18:25] <cedian_linux> but other stuff is great, my sound didn't work at all though [18:26] <mariogrip> cedian_linux: i can see if i can take a look at it today [18:26] <Sleep_Walker> apparmor is still alive? [18:26] <mariogrip> apparmor3 [18:26] <Sleep_Walker> scary :) [18:27] <mariogrip> xP [18:27] <cedian_linux> I need my apps which won't install with click [18:30] <cedian_linux> mariogrip I don't understand why they use apparmor3 which isn't ready yet [18:31] <mariogrip> cedian_linux: That's not up to me, that's how Ubuntu touch is [18:31] <cedian_linux> yeah, but they could at least add more information, if they want users to port it [18:48] <cedian_linux> trying noe [18:55] <cedian_linux> mariogrip what's the normal size of the kernel? [18:56] <h2o64> mariogrip : Did you red my last log ? [18:56] <mariogrip> that last thing you said was "Could you (if you have time) test if my sources work on your device mariogrip ?" [18:57] <h2o64> Ah :p [18:57] <h2o64> Did you saw that ? http://pastebin.com/EMaJCDnn [18:57] <cedian_linux> mariogrip could you (if you have time) build apparmor3? [18:58] <mariogrip> you shuld try irccloud.com h2o64 [18:58] <mariogrip> cedian_linux: yeah [18:58] <mariogrip> h2o64: are you back to console=nulll? [18:58] <cedian_linux> and then it accidentally works, by me :P just a joke [18:58] <h2o64> wait, taht's not the right kmsg [18:58] <h2o64> What's irccloud.com ? [18:59] <cedian_linux> an irc client I guess ;) [18:59] <h2o64> I mean why this one in particular [18:59] <h2o64> log : http://pastebin.com/NQZRdYs [18:59] <h2o64> * http://pastebin.com/NQZRdYsQ [18:59] <mariogrip> a irc client that runs on the web so it keeps you alive and you will receive/send all messages [19:00] <h2o64> I'm using piding on Ubuntu but each time I close the windows it kills the conv [19:01] <cedian_linux> I'm using hexchat right now [19:04] <mariogrip> but with irccloud if you cloese the window it still is alive in the cloud, that's why im always on this channel [19:04] <h2o64> Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ! [19:06] <h2o64> Nice [19:06] <h2o64> Me and my team are use to hanghout [19:06] <h2o64> *hangout [19:09] <mariogrip> ah, I have used that before, but we moved to irc [19:10] <mariogrip> cedian_linux: i build the kernel now with apparmor3 let's see if it works [19:11] <cedian_linux> ok [19:12] <cedian_linux> I'm looking up some info about some Dutch law which might be fake. A lot of signs are made with the same text [19:13] <mariogrip> nice it works! [19:13] <cedian_linux> yay [19:15] <mariogrip> I can download apps now :D [19:15] <cedian_linux> cool give me the kernel ;) [19:16] <mariogrip> uploading [19:16] <cedian_linux> nice [19:17] <h2o64> Back with irrcloud [19:17] <cedian_linux> ok [19:19] <h2o64> mariogrip : Where did you get https://github.com/ubports/qcom_conn_init ? [19:20] <mariogrip> a mix of codeaurora and aosp [19:20] <mariogrip> mostly aosp [19:20] <h2o64> On mako ? [19:21] <mariogrip> jup [19:21] <h2o64> And how did you patch hardware/qcom/display ? [19:22] <h2o64> (I'm thinking about make nice branches with good commits on github :3 ) [19:22] <mariogrip> https://github.com/ubports/qcom-display/commit/d8380fc043a55019513dc22663e2a156cdc9ff92 [19:22] <cedian_linux> mariogrip: any luck with uploading [19:22] <h2o64> i saw but hwhy did you made those changes ? [19:23] <mariogrip> some of them are copy form codeaurora and some form linux [19:23] <h2o64> Okay [19:25] <mariogrip> h2o64: something i need to do i clean up, but that's not my priority now. [19:25] <mariogrip> is* [19:26] <h2o64> Sure sure :) [19:26] <h2o64> But I'll have a lot of spare time soon so I'll do it :) [19:31] <seth__> im trying to install Ubuntu on my Motorola Xoom. when i try to flash the device i get "Device wingray not found on server https://system-image.ubuntu.com channel stable" [19:32] <cedian_linux> mariogrip: any update on boot.img upload? [19:33] <kwah> Hi All [19:34] <kwah> Want to file a bug about lock-screen not reacting on input [19:34] <mariogrip> yeah i forgot, it's donw [19:34] <mariogrip> it's on the download server [19:34] <kwah> any ideas on the package/sub-system to file a bug against? [19:34] <cedian_linux> thanks [19:34] <mariogrip> http://download.ubports.com/Ubuntu-Touch/OnePlus-One/dev/20150514/ [19:35] <cedian_linux> thanks [19:35] <cedian_linux> why in 2015054? [19:38] <mariogrip> that's todays date [19:38] <cedian_linux> no that's 20150614 [19:41] <mariogrip> oh yeah, my bad :P i will correct that. I'm still in may [19:41] <mariogrip> thanks :D [19:41] <cedian_linux> me too sometimes [19:50] <mariogrip> cedian_linux: I will say thanks for trying to get Apparmor3 to work, i feel little bad that i just took apparmor3 from you... sorry about that. but you're welcome help with other stuff :D [19:51] <cedian_linux> installed, it doesn't matter I love to learn things, I thank you for letting me help [19:51] <cedian_linux> mariogrip ^ [19:51] <mariogrip> :D [19:53] <mariogrip> did you download some apps, i just downloaded podbird [19:57] <cedian_linux> yes I downloaded utilities [20:04] <cedian_linux> mariogrip I'm installing a lot ;) [20:09] <ahayzen> Hi, anyone else ever got "2015/06/14 21:08:18 error pushing: " and then nothing else in the output when trying to ubuntu-device-flash to a mako ? [20:17] <lpotter> hey. Does canonical actually use any of these packages? https://code.launchpad.net/nemo-mobile [20:20] <taiebot> ahazen recently got quite some erros with flashing. Most of the time i delete the .cache folder on my desktop sometimes it helps [20:26] <ahayzen> taiebot, hmm maybe going to recovery mode and doing it that way [20:28] <ahayzen> ..yeah thats seems to be working/doing more \o/ maybe adb is just nicely broken in wily or something
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2015-06-14-#ubuntu-mir
[15:32] <rsalveti> racarr_: any news on https://code.launchpad.net/~mir-team/platform-api/delete-deprecations/+merge/254170 ? [15:33] <rsalveti> gst-plugins-bad1.0 is currently broken on proposed because it uses window.h as well [15:33] <rsalveti> but I guess we first need to land this and then rework the gst patch [21:18] <racarr_> swartzcr: [21:18] <racarr_> woah [21:18] <racarr_> whoops [21:18] <racarr_> cross channel typo :p
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2015-06-14-#ubuntu-ko
[01:32] <novato_br> guys, I'm lost, I would like to get some korean games... anyone knows what is the korean irc channel? [01:32] <novato_br> I'm looking for the game: black squad [02:43] <autowiz> searching ... black squad [02:47] <autowiz> What do you lost ? [04:06] <chicken> ㅁㄴㅇㄹ [04:17] <autowiz> qwert [04:17] <autowiz> qwerty [04:17] <HolyKnight> ㄷㄷ [06:29] <PotatoGim> 안녕하세요~ [11:40] <novato_br> ㅁㄴㅇㄹ [11:40] <novato_br> <autowiz> qwert [11:41] <autowiz> 음... [11:41] <autowiz> 저만 깨지는건가요? [11:41] <novato_br> autowiz, don't you have utf-8 system? [11:41] <novato_br> I can't read you [11:41] <autowiz> i guess [11:42] <novato_br> you said I'm gonna you break up ? [11:42] <autowiz> Do you have a problem playing some games ? [11:42] <novato_br> it doesn't make sense [11:42] <novato_br> yeah, autowiz [11:42] <novato_br> i'd like to play black squad [11:42] <novato_br> it is a korean game [11:42] <novato_br> I'm from brazil. [11:43] <novato_br> I like games kind of first person shooter [11:44] <novato_br> ... [11:45] <autowiz> Sometimes Some person ask to me . They want to me , make a game account and tell them. [11:46] <novato_br> I make the account on pmang.com [11:46] <autowiz> But security reason . I couldn't do that. [11:46] <autowiz> Did you insalled that game ? [11:46] <novato_br> but I can't understand one thing >>> why do I need identify myself with identy digital card? [11:47] <novato_br> here, we don't have to identify ouserlves with ID's digital [11:48] <novato_br> I wasn't able to install the game, because it need to get id digital [11:49] <novato_br> there are many brazilian are getting interests on black squad [11:53] <novato_br> autowiz, or I need to get a pin of cellphone company. what's cellphone company from south korean that has english version website? I will sign one of those services [11:57] <autowiz> For get pin code with korean cell phone , you need contract with korean telecom company with real device . [11:58] <autowiz> I think just sign up with online website user may not get pin code . [11:59] <autowiz> By the way , I'll find Engligh website. ... [12:04] <novato_br> thank you, autowiz [12:06] <autowiz> LG U+ [12:06] <autowiz> http://www.uplus.co.kr/cmg/engl/coif/pelu/RetrievePeLuForeign.hpi?mid=2615 [12:06] <autowiz> SK Telecom [12:06] <autowiz> http://www.tworld.co.kr/eng/ [12:06] <novato_br> thank you, autowiz [12:08] <novato_br> dammit, it sould be international system of digital id's [12:08] <autowiz> HelloMobile [12:08] <autowiz> https://www.cjhello.com/mv_Client/main/index.asp [12:08] <autowiz> KT ( olleh ) [12:08] <autowiz> http://www.olleh.com/ [12:08] <novato_br> so, everyone could be identified [12:08] <autowiz> below two site , couldn't find Eng page. [12:09] <novato_br> don't worry [12:09] <novato_br> you helped me a lot [12:09] <novato_br> don't feel offended, autowiz. But this one website is pink. here, pink is color for women [12:09] <autowiz> Facebook do authentication service with world wide mobile pin [12:10] <novato_br> great [12:10] <novato_br> i don't have any facebook account [12:10] <autowiz> But pmang does not . maybe. [12:11] <novato_br> I'll see what I can do, thank you for everything [12:11] <autowiz> your welcome . [12:11] <autowiz> have a good day~ [12:12] <novato_br> autowiz, I know you say little things like personal questions... but we are curious people... we like to know new people... [12:12] <novato_br> where part of korean are you? [12:12] <novato_br> korea* [12:13] <autowiz> You mean north or South ? or something else ? [12:13] <novato_br> your location [12:14] <autowiz> in Seoul City now. [12:14] <novato_br> hum... [12:14] <novato_br> Seoul great city [12:14] <novato_br> I've already some tv shows from south korea [12:14] <novato_br> I've watched* [12:15] <novato_br> the last was healer that I have seen it [12:15] <autowiz> I pray , you watched funny tv show . : ) [12:16] <novato_br> yes [12:16] <novato_br> I like pretty much of comedy [12:16] <autowiz> Healer is a korean drama right? [12:17] <novato_br> yeah [12:17] <novato_br> autowiz, http://www.dramafever.com/drama/4550/Healer/ [12:17] <autowiz> I was watched that , too. Character and situation is very funny . [12:17] <novato_br> yeah, yeah [12:18] <novato_br> it's time people to think different... entire world is connected by internet. [12:18] <autowiz> And heroine is very cute . : ) [12:18] <novato_br> what you see I can already have seen it [12:18] <novato_br> yeah [12:19] <novato_br> I saw some movies too [12:20] <novato_br> 100 days with arrogant mister. [12:20] <novato_br> or PS sex [12:22] <autowiz> I like movie and TV drama from US or Japanese , as like as Korean film [12:23] <novato_br> cool [12:26] <novato_br> autowiz, I like pretty much of this actress >>> http://www.dramafever.com/kim-mi-kyung/actor/964/ [12:26] <novato_br> she is very versatile [12:27] <novato_br> I saw a bunch of tv show that she played a roll [12:28] <novato_br> of course that she isn't any kim tae hee, but she nice too [12:28] <novato_br> http://www.dramafever.com/kim-tae-hee/actor/319/ [12:29] <autowiz> If you doesn't see this , I suggest this drama [12:29] <autowiz> http://movie.naver.com/movie/bi/mi/basic.nhn?code=120525 [12:30] <novato_br> autowiz, can I add you on my notify list? [12:31] <autowiz> sure ~ thank you. [12:31] <novato_br> autowiz, is it hard to learn korean? [12:32] <novato_br> I saw some tv shows with actress [12:33] <autowiz> Of course , learn new language is not easy. But I saw many people learn and speak koreans . [12:34] <novato_br> I saw some south korean series I realize that is hard to pronouce [12:34] <novato_br> pronounce* [12:35] <novato_br> you have some phonems that I can't perform [12:36] <novato_br> it is a shame for us, we don't know much of south korea [12:37] <novato_br> we (brazilian guys) [12:37] <autowiz> Me too. I'm very hard to say some words . [12:37] <novato_br> don't worry, you're doing pretty fine [12:37] <novato_br> I can't understand you [12:37] <novato_br> sorry [12:37] <novato_br> LoL [12:37] <autowiz> : ) [12:38] <novato_br> I meant I am able to understand you [12:38] <novato_br> we (brazilian) know about south korea.... humm... we know korea that is about high tech [12:39] <novato_br> smartphone, tablet, smartwatches, megalevs, ultra fast speed internet connections [12:39] <novato_br> and a country with highest educational system [12:41] <autowiz> I get a call. [12:41] <autowiz> got * [12:42] <novato_br> ok [12:58] <autowiz> i'm back [13:01] <novato_br> cool [13:01] <novato_br> I see link of the tv show on dramafever [13:01] <novato_br> http://www.dramafever.com/drama/4478/1/It%27s_Okay%2C_That%27s_Love/ [13:01] <novato_br> can we talking in private? because we're out of topic [13:01] <novato_br> off* [13:02] <autowiz> yes . i worry about that too. we are out of topic : ) [13:03] <novato_br> ok [13:08] <sungyo> 꾸벅.... [13:09] <autowiz> 안녕하세요 [13:09] <autowiz> 오랜만에 뵙습니다. [13:09] <sungyo> ^0^ 네 [13:09] <sungyo> 다들 메르스는 괜찮으신지?? [13:09] <autowiz> 저 메르스 ... [13:10] <autowiz> 안걸렸습니다 .. ㅎㅎ [13:10] <sungyo> 아쉽네요~ [13:10] <sungyo> ㅋㅋㅋㄷㅋㄷㅋㄷㅋ [13:10] <autowiz> 헉.. 무슨 그런 말씀을 섭섭하게요 ㅎㅎ [13:10] <autowiz> 좀전에 외국가 있는 친구랑 통화했는데 [13:10] <sungyo> 왜..왠지 아쉬워 하는거 같아서... [13:11] <autowiz> 거기서도 한국은 좀 이상한거 아니냐 왜 거기만 메르스 환자가 그렇게 많냐 .. 공항에서 한국사람만 따로 건강검진 해야하는거 아니냐 그러고 있네요 [13:11] <autowiz> 있데요 [13:12] <sungyo> 그러게요. [13:12] <sungyo> 왜 유독 한국은..그런지.. [13:13] <chicken> 전 [13:13] <chicken> 안괜찮다능! [13:14] * chicken 캬악! 퉤! [13:14] <chicken> (조류독감전파) [13:14] <chicken> /-ㅅ-/ 훠이~ [13:19] <sungyo> chicken: 쏴아~ 어서오세요~ 끓는 기름과 튀김가루가 준비되어있습니다~ [13:19] <chicken> 킁. [13:20] <chicken> 드립실패 -ㅅ- [13:20] <sungyo> 오늘은 싱싱한 후라이드로 가죠~ 허니 머스터드 소스도 곧 블랜딩 해오죠~ [13:35] <autowiz> 아 어제 너무너무 치느님이 그리웠는데 만나뵈러 갔더니 이미 묻잠그고 주무시더라는 [13:38] <sungyo> 저...저런... [13:42] <sungyo> 노트북을 입양했어요 [13:43] <sungyo> http://search.danawa.com/dsearch.php?k1=vaio+duo+11&module=goods&act=dispMain [13:49] <autowiz> 축하드립니다 ㅎㅎ [13:50] <sungyo> 여기에 우분투를 깔고... [13:51] <sungyo> 설정좀 해주고 하니 재법 쓸만한 태블릿이 되더라구요. [13:51] <sungyo> ^0^ [15:18] <sungyo> jason_kr: 꾸벅.... [15:20] <jason_kr> 아유~ 무척 오랜만이십니다. ^^ [15:21] <jason_kr> 어찌? 잘 지네죠? [15:21] <sungyo> 메르스 요리조리 잘 피해서 [15:21] <jason_kr> 풉 [15:21] <sungyo> 지내고 있어요...^^;; [15:21] <jason_kr> 옙 [15:22] <jason_kr> (아동부터) 젊은 이들은 잘 안걸린다는.... [16:24] <sungyo> . [23:48] <jun_> 안녕하세요~ 즐거운(?) 월요일입니다~
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2015-06-14-#ubuntu-motu
[19:50] <micahg> hi siretart, is gnucash on your list of merges that you're interested in? there's a libaqbanking transition in progress, so we need the new version from Debian [19:56] <Logan> $$$ [21:07] <DarkPlayer> micahg: did you have time to take a look at the wine-staging package? (you talked with slackner on wednesday about it) [21:07] <micahg> DarkPlayer: no, that's on my list though [21:17] <DarkPlayer> the package needs some changes (replacing the prefix with /usr) etc., but what would be the further steps if we fixed that? [21:19] <micahg> needs 2 reviewers to sign off before uploading to Ubuntu, per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages#Going_through_MOTU [21:46] <DarkPlayer> micahg: is there any interest in us maintaining the package or do you want to leave this to the ubuntu devs? [21:47] <micahg> DarkPlayer: if you want to insure it gets updated, I suggest that you maintain it, the Ubuntu devs updating Ubuntu local packages is best effort only [21:47] <micahg> and there's a limited amount of resources [21:48] <micahg> you can eventually get upload rights for the package: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopers#Per-package_Uploaders
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2015-06-14-#lubuntu
[15:56] <DenkBrettl> hi all [15:56] <Nairwolf> hi ; [15:56] <DenkBrettl> I'm trying to install 15.04 with the alternate install cd and there seems to be an issue with dependencies around libmirclient8 [15:56] <DenkBrettl> is this a known bug and if so is there a workaround? [15:57] <Nairwolf> sorry, I can't help you (I thought it was #lubuntu-offtopic) [21:19] <miheerdew> My display has been offset. You can see a grey background there. Windows only expand as much as the desktop background [21:19] <miheerdew> http://postimg.org/image/dhqpdnv6r/ [21:20] <miheerdew> The margins in ~/.config/openbox/lubuntu-rc.xml are already 0 [21:34] <miheerdew> ^^ Any help?
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2015-06-14-#ubuntu-pl
[15:15] <gregorijus> Witam. Czy można jakoś odciąć od jednego oddziału dysku 50Gb i dołożyć ich do systemowego oddziału dysku bez przeinstalowania systemu i utraty danych? Czy to z fantastytki? [15:15] <Ashiren> huh [15:15] <gregorijus> wiem, dziwny polski [15:15] <gregorijus> Litwa wita [15:15] <gregorijus> ale i tak chyba zrozumiałeś o co michodzi [15:17] <Ashiren> oddzial = partycja? [15:17] <gregorijus> ano :D [15:17] <gregorijus> przy instalacji systemu dałem dla niego 30gb, których mi ciągle za mało [15:17] <Ashiren> zalezy jaki system plikow i czy ta partycja do usuniecia lezy obok [15:18] <gregorijus> ciągle komuś brak miejsca :D [15:18] <gregorijus> napisz jakąś komendę, bym mógł ci podać wszelką potrzebną informację [15:20] <Ashiren> np. fdisk -l [15:20] <Ashiren> ale to co chcesz zrobic chyba malo prawdopodobne, przynjamniej bez doglebnego bawienia sie [15:21] <drathir> gdyby to na lvm-ach siedzialo to z tego co pamietam daloby sie nawet na zwywca zrobic... [15:21] <gregorijus> http://wklej.org/id/1738049/ [15:21] <Ashiren> i 30gb na ubuntu to za malo :? [15:22] <gregorijus> no jakoś tak... [15:22] <gregorijus> wywaliłem thunderbirda, bo mi żarł całe miejsce [15:22] <drathir> a tak to raczej szybciej i bezpieczniej przeniesc potrzebne dane i przeinstalowac... [15:23] <drathir> cache trzeba bylo wylaczyc, i imapa dac... [15:23] <drathir> w sensie w thunderbirdzie... [15:44] <gregorijus> aj, postawiłem mail notifier na chrome i mam spokój :D [15:44] <gregorijus> skype mi nie ładuje wszystkich kontaktów - na androidzie mam online 40, a na linuxie 10 :D [15:44] <gregorijus> co mu zrobić, by miejsca starczyło? :D [15:57] <BlessJah> gregorijus: jesli nie masz LVM to mozesz przez gparted zmieniac rozmiar partycji (z poziomu livecd) [15:57] <gregorijus> Bez utraty danych? [15:58] <BlessJah> zazwyczaj bez, ale nie zawsze sie udaje [15:58] <BlessJah> gregorijus: ja zawsze robie cos innego [15:58] <gregorijus> co? [15:58] <BlessJah> zalozmy ze mam partycje rootfs i /home, orientuje sie ze na rootfs brakuje miejsca [15:58] <BlessJah> bo na przyklad logi zzeraja [15:59] <BlessJah> mkdir /home/log ; mount -o bind /home/log /var/log [15:59] <BlessJah> w duzym skrocie [15:59] <BlessJah> gregorijus: katalogi mozna montowac jak partycje (musisz '-o bind' uzyc) [16:01] <gregorijus> chyba jednak będę się bał to robić :D [16:01] <BlessJah> nope, ta opcja jest duzo bezpieczniejsza od zmiany rozmiaru partycji [16:02] <BlessJah> ofc robienie glupich rzeczy jak przenoszenie /bin czy /usr na inna partycje jest glupie [16:02] <BlessJah> ale wiekszosc rzeczy mozesz bezpiecznie trzymac na innej partycji [16:03] <BlessJah> gregorijus: ale to ze 30GiB to za malo brzmi nieco podejrzenie, powinienes sprawdzic co naprawde zzera tyle i dlaczego [16:03] <BlessJah> 'ncdu -x /' na przyklad [16:03] <gregorijus> z ` czy bez `? [16:03] <BlessJah> bez tykow [16:04] <gregorijus> not instaled [16:04] <gregorijus> idę szukać [16:05] <BlessJah> zawsze mozesz 'du -xhd /' [16:05] <BlessJah> u mnie system zzera 8GiB [16:06] <BlessJah> bbl, ide do sklepu [16:06] <gregorijus> poszło [16:06] <BlessJah> gregorijus: http://dpaste.com [16:07] <gregorijus> ok [16:09] <gregorijus> http://dpaste.com/2B44K55 [16:11] <BlessJah> na pewno brakuje ci miejsca? na rootfs masz tylko 7GiB zajete [16:11] <BlessJah> daj 'df -hP' [16:12] <gregorijus> http://dpaste.com/0HCCX0P [16:13] <BlessJah> gregorijus: masz wszedzie sporo miejsca jeszcze [16:13] <gregorijus> a dlaczego mi szli komunikaty o braku? [16:13] <gregorijus> prawda, wywaliłem thunderbirda [16:13] <BlessJah> jaki dokladnie to byl komunikat? [16:13] <gregorijus> uspokoiło się [16:13] <gregorijus> mdm jakiś tam przy logowaniu [16:14] <BlessJah> mint ^^ [16:14] <gregorijus> też resetowania jednej lub innej aplikacji [16:14] <gregorijus> naprzykład audacious [16:14] <BlessJah> thunderbird potrafi zjesc max kilka giga [16:14] <gregorijus> mam jeszcze win 7 na tym lapku [16:14] <gregorijus> mogą konfliktować? [16:15] <BlessJah> gregorijus: nie, win7 siedzi na oddzielnej partycji [16:15] <gregorijus> więc poddaję się... [16:15] <BlessJah> niestety, ale z wklejek wynika ze masz sporo wolnego miejsca [16:15] <gregorijus> znaczy jakieś inne problemy [16:16] <gregorijus> może sam dysk pomalutku leci [16:16] <BlessJah> jedyny problem jaki widze to brak oddzielnej partycji na /home [16:17] <BlessJah> no nic, niestety nie pomoge [16:17] <BlessJah> ide do sklepu [16:17] <BlessJah> o/ [16:17] <BlessJah> 1/ [16:18] <gregorijus> dziękuję [16:18] <gregorijus> przynajmniej wiem, że jest ok
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2015-06-14-#ubuntu-kernel
[02:22] <trippeh> Yay, the new wireless-regdb in wily, installed on vivid, upped 2x2 ultrabook wifi from ~105Mbps to ~305Mbps [02:22] <trippeh> TCP throughput [09:23] <pkern> trippeh: which country? [09:25] <pkern> I guess that's AUTO-BW. [10:52] <trippeh> pkern: Norway. It's availability of 80Mhz wide "channels" [10:54] <trippeh> iwlwifi could also get confused and fall back to 802.11n when it saw a 80Mhz wide network [10:54] <trippeh> instead of just continuing 802.11ac but using 40Mhz [11:14] <trippeh> pkern: it was missing a load of VHT80 updates for a bunch of countries that landed upstream in Q4 2013, and more recently VHT160 [11:45] <pkern> trippeh: I see. Thanks!
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2015-06-14-#ubuntu-tr
[10:57] <fnoyanisi> slm [11:16] <turgay> selam [11:16] <turgay> fnoyanisi: hoş geldin [11:16] <fnoyanisi> hosbulduk turgay [11:17] <fnoyanisi> masaallah kanalda ses var ya :) [11:18] <turgay> evet aynen [11:39] <fnoyanisi> bi ara pardus kanali vardi, bayagi canliydi [11:39] <fnoyanisi> bilmem burada var mi daha once oraya takilanlardan kimse
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2015-06-14-#ubuntu+1
[09:22] <lordievader> Good morning. [10:38] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
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2015-06-14-#maas
[10:06] <mup> Bug #1464984 opened: Crash in TFTP server booting NUC under UEFI <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1464984> [10:51] <mup> Bug #1464989 opened: MAAS fails to install on UEFI NUC with curtin bcache error <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1464989> [12:07] <mup> Bug #1465000 opened: MAAS TFTP fails when MAAS interface is not the default route device <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1465000> [23:20] <mup> Bug #1465071 opened: Daily hwe-v kernel for trusty results in kernel panic when attempting to mount iscsi partition <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1465071>
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2015-06-14-#ubuntu-fi
[08:10] <Tm_T> wlan-ongelma selvisi, poistin dellin tarjoaman wlan-ajurin ja taas rokkaa [08:48] <Mikaela> Miten tulostateen yksi kuva monta kertaa samalle paperille? [08:57] <Mikaela> https://askubuntu.com/questions/22896/how-do-i-print-photos mahdolisesti [15:47] <puhuri> hotellissa on aika "hauska" wlan - samalla SSID:llä menee eri IP-aliverkkoon, jote yhteyden joutuu avaamaan ja sulkemaan aina välillä - ei siinä mitään [15:48] <puhuri> ongelma on siinä, että network-manager sitten tappaa samalla VPN:n kun yhteys katkaistan vaikka VPN.n avulla TCP-yhteydet säilyisivät [15:49] <puhuri> saiko network-manageria komennettua jotenkin "koeta hakea uusi dhcp-laina"? [16:17] <tale> puhuri: service network-manager restart [16:42] <puhuri> tappaa vpn:n, ei käy [16:44] <puhuri> dhclientiss on omshell, jolla sitä voisi kai komentaa, mutta vähän niukat on ohjeet [16:44] <puhuri> ratkaisin sillä, että lkäynnistetään uusi dhclient ja korjataan käsin reitit osoittamaan oikeaan paikkaan [18:48] <elias_a> Onko jollain muulla tullut käynnistysongelmia viimeisten päivitysten jälkeen? [18:49] <elias_a> Minulla alkoi pukkaamaan i/o-erroria ja kaikkea mahdollista. [18:49] <elias_a> Tikulta käynnistettynä kuitenkin smartctl ei löydä mitään vikaan. [18:50] <elias_a> SSD-levystä kyse. [19:28] <gildean> elias_a: joo, kotipalvelin kosahti kun päivitin viikko sitten vihdoin 14.04:ään 12.04:stä [19:28] <gildean> oli alunperin 10.04 asennettu puhtaasti [19:29] <gildean> tuli tossa uusimman päivityksen jälkeen kaikenlaista sekoilua, mm. just mountti-erroreita ja i/o erroreita ja sitten kun sai käyntiin niin verkko kosahti viimeistään parin minuutin päästä ilman syytä [19:29] <gildean> "korjausasennus" medialta ja ongelmat katos [19:30] <gildean> eli ts. puhas asennus mutta säilyttäen levyt lvm:ssä [20:18] <elias_a> gildean: Okei. Katsotaan mita saan aikaan. [20:19] <elias_a> Meininki on aika hanurista imho. [20:19] <elias_a> Ajanpa smart-testit silti viela kerran. [20:23] <elias_a> Oireisiin kuuluu tietysti se, etta winhotus toimii ongelmitta... [20:34] <elias_a> Jee! fsck:lla hoitui! [20:34] <elias_a> Oli vain rutosti orpoja inodeja juuriosiolla.
ubuntu-chat
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2015-06-14-#ubuntustudio
[00:40] <mjhouska> how do i get yo yo shimi to show up in alsa? [00:42] <mjhouska> i only found a debian guy in open musicians. he said idt was a pulse issue [22:44] <EriC^^> does anybody know of a software to convert png's to gif? [22:45] <EriC^^> a bunch of them into 1 gif
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2015-06-14-#ubuntu-us-pa
[02:11] <ChinnoDog> I feel so dumb. I can't find the MySQL public key on the MIT key server. How do you find keys by name? http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.6/en/checking-gpg-signature.html [02:36] <ChinnoDog> I figured it out. I couldn't find a way to look it up by name using the gpg command but I was able to look up the key ID using the web interface to the pgp server and use that to download the key. [13:33] <JonathanD> Hi. [13:40] <rmg51> Lo. [13:51] <TengokuNoIsan> Good morning to all and to all a good morning... WITH BACON! [13:58] <JonathanD> How goes? [13:59] <TengokuNoIsan> Rocking at the moment [14:00] <TengokuNoIsan> just got rid of my Dell PE 1950 server [14:00] <TengokuNoIsan> Setting up the NEW 2950 II [14:01] <JonathanD> I got rid of a 2950 not long ago lol [14:02] <TengokuNoIsan> This has 6 146GB 15k drives, Dual E5335's, and 16GB [14:02] <TengokuNoIsan> Dell pErc 5i, Dell iDrac [19:38] <ChinnoDog> What could you possibly need with all that? [20:02] <jthan> ^^ that's how I was feeling earlier [20:06] <pleia2> lazyPower|eow: you'll be in my town for dockercon, yeah? Is this just for dockercon attendees? http://insights.ubuntu.com/event/conducting-systems-and-services-an-evening-about-orchestration/ [20:06] <pleia2> lazyPower|eow: (I live across the street and would like to pop over for it, but the event registration implies that you need your dockercon badge, which of course I won't have) [20:08] <pleia2> lazyPower|eow: also, we should hang out :)
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2015-06-14-#ubuntu-news
[07:34] * PaulW2U counts summaries - still 11 to be written [07:34] <pleia2> thanks paul [07:57] <pleia2> added link to the Unity8 & Mir update June 12, 2015 thread under phone news [07:58] <pleia2> they sent to -news-team and it was in the queue, but I happened to see it on the phone list with the proper title because I actually read that sometimes now [15:12] <PaulW2U> 3 summaries from someone we haven't seen for a while \o/ [16:15] <PaulW2U> Need to go, just 4 summaries to do now [18:16] <pleia2> yay, thanks
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2015-06-14-#ubuntu-gr
[07:43] <Tassos> καλημέρα :) [11:44] <narkman> kalispera [22:35] <alex4ndros> kalispera prospatho na peraso ena windows game sta ubuntu me to wine alla kolaei kai den to anoigei katholou mipos eixe kapoios paromio provlima ?
ubuntu-chat
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2015-06-14-#ubuntu-hr
[07:10] <reSpawn> d dan [07:50] <Vlado9A3CY> dobro jutro [09:50] <Mmike> Vruce je. [09:53] <Mmike> .weather jastrebarsko [09:53] <datase> Mmike: Weather for Jastrebarsko, Croatia | Temperature: 84°F / 29°C (Heat Index: 84°F / 29°C); Humidity: 45%; Pressure: 29.86in / 101.1kPa; Conditions: Clear; Wind: Ene, 2mph / 3kph; Updated: 23 mins, 11 secs ago | Forecast for Sunday: Partly cloudy; High of 87°F / 31°C; Low of 64°F / 18°C | Forecast for Monday: Partly cloudy; High of 84°F / 29°C; Low of 60°F / 16°C | Forecast for Tuesday: Chance of rain; (1 more message) [09:53] <Mmike> .more [09:53] <datase> Mmike: High of 79°F / 26°C; Low of 56°F / 13°C | Forecast for Wednesday: Chance of rain; High of 74°F / 23°C; Low of 52°F / 11°C | Forecast for Thursday: Partly cloudy; High of 79°F / 26°C; Low of 57°F / 14°C | Forecast for Friday: Clear; High of 84°F / 29°C; Low of 58°F / 14°C [13:56] <reSpawn> d dan [14:20] <vileni> o, burger king u areni, shvatili da nije bas najbolje imati lokal samo na jednoj strani autoputa [14:21] <reSpawn> da nemaju neki bas promet [14:21] <reSpawn> ja sam do sada bio 2 puta u Mcdonaldsu nije nesto [14:25] <vileni> ja sm zadnji put bio u petak u ponoc [14:25] <vileni> zavrsili sa pranjem stanja i slaganjem namjestaja i jeo nam se sladoled [14:25] <reSpawn> ja sam samo jeo 2 puta sladoled nije los [14:26] <reSpawn> gledao danas u kinu Jurassic world los je vec izvakano [16:04] <Mmike> em ti [16:04] <Mmike> spavanje popodne [16:06] <vileni> powernap [16:06] <vileni> i onda ne mozes zaspati navecer, a ujutro te budilica ceka [16:10] <reSpawn> d dan [16:46] <Mmike> http://www.sorryopenerp.com/managers.html#reality [16:46] <Mmike> vileni, ma kufer powernap [16:46] <Mmike> powernap je 10 minuta [16:46] <Mmike> 15 max [16:46] <Mmike> to mi zna ok bit kad me uhvati fjaka [16:46] <Mmike> popijem kavu i legnem na 10 minuta [16:46] <Mmike> i probudim se k'o raketa [16:46] <Mmike> skuzio sam, btw, da me najbolje uspava sabor :) [18:19] <jelly> oho, počelo puhati [18:28] <obrut> konacno ce malo zahladit [18:32] <CrazyLemon> stvarno malo :) [18:40] <jelly> krepalo napajanje u jednom malom storidju tocno kad je zapuhalo, mozda je bio grom kojeg nisam cuo [18:48] <reSpawn> d vecer [19:31] <vileni> Mmike: mene najbolje uspava formula :) [20:58] <Mmike> vileni, formulu nemas svaki dan, sabor imas :) [21:00] <jelly> u saboru bi placu trebalo po prisutstvu davati [21:00] <vileni> Mmike: nekako sam mogao zivjeti i bez te informacije :) [21:02] <Mmike> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=804096.0 [21:05] <jelly> mrmlj, donijelo mi slavonsku sa kobasicom i vratinom, umjesto vegetarijansku [21:05] <vileni> jelly: posalji meni :) [21:06] <jelly> da si blizu, bi, ovak sam je vratio [21:07] <jelly> imam radove u 1 ujutro, a sve sto sam jeo danas je nektarina [21:08] <vileni> ja sam jeo jako dobar gulas [21:08] <vileni> i za rucak i za veceru [21:08] <vileni> i povecu zdjelu sladoleda [21:17] <jelly> stigla prava pizza
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2015-06-14-#ubuntu-my
[01:03] <najmi> mypapit: dedicated server & VPS yg agak ok jugak harganya http://www.mochahost.com/5643.html [03:09] <mypapit> [03:09] <mypapit> dxnfjdjd [03:09] <mypapit> [03:10] <mypapit> djsjsjsjssjs [07:09] <najmi> woit [11:07] <austin4344> Hi! I would appreciate if you guys could help me out. Here is the problem I'm facing: [11:07] <austin4344> So I am trying to get the Vino VNC Server to startup on boot, meaning I don't have to login to have the VNC Server start. I am on Ubuntu GNOME 15.04, and I have already added "/usr/lib/vino/vino-server" to 'Startup Applications'. [11:08] <austin4344> However, the VNC Server still won't start as soon as I boot up. I have to login in order for the VNC Server to start. What should I do? Do I need to create a systemd unit file? If so, how do I do it? [13:37] <mypapit> eh? [15:46] <najmi> mypapit: apesal? [15:47] <najmi> http://elhilal.blogspot.com/2015/06/cheapest-virtual-private-server-vps.html [15:47] <najmi> finally dpt VPS yg RAM besar dan HDD besar dgn harga tak cekik darah [15:47] <najmi> around EUR6-8 per mth [15:48] <najmi> RAM 6GB, HDD 500GB [15:48] <mypapit> wow! [15:49] <mypapit> najmi, menarik dan tertarik [15:49] <mypapit> definitely akan amik [15:49] * najmi beli dedicated ATOM server dari digicube.fr [15:49] <najmi> then reinstall OS [15:49] <najmi> 2 hari tak ada apa-apa update [15:49] <najmi> apparently beli dedicated yg murah not a good idea [15:49] <najmi> so better VPS, self managed [15:50] <najmi> dedicated server yg murah most likely understaffed, hence yg handle tu kena buat keje manual [15:50] <najmi> so time cuti dia pun cuti la [15:50] <najmi> but then kita tak dpt guna service dia [15:50] <mypapit> najmi, aku pn rasa mcm tu jugak [15:50] <najmi> aku spend approx RM100 satu dua hari ni [15:50] <mypapit> najmi, service murah nnt takut kalau down, kita pun takboleh nak contact dia [15:50] <najmi> beli 1 dedicated dari france [15:50] <mypapit> najmi, lepas tu pulak takut hdd/ssd lama [15:50] <najmi> 1 VPS dari Austria dan 1 VPS dari UK [15:51] <najmi> yg VPS Austria/UK ni utk lenjan compile ROM [15:51] <mypapit> ataupun link yg dia provide teruk, sbb ada skrip kiddie pun share network resource dgn kita [15:51] <najmi> dan buat keje analysis [15:51] <mypapit> icicic [15:51] <najmi> python code.. [15:51] <najmi> 3 jam baru siap [15:51] <mypapit> power jgk boleh lenjan [15:51] <najmi> tu la [15:51] <najmi> but cari yg murah2 je dulu [15:51] <mypapit> najmi, yg UK/Australia tu guna service mana? [15:51] <najmi> tgk first mth [15:51] <najmi> dlm blog tu ada tulis [15:52] <mypapit> ooo [15:52] <najmi> yg aku tak beli SSDapp tu sebab offer dia lebih kurang waveriver tu [15:52] <mypapit> ok tgh baca [15:52] <mypapit> aku skrg dah ada DO [15:52] <najmi> ok [15:52] <najmi> but DO ni besar mana je kan [15:52] <mypapit> aku duk cari VPS yg reliable utk store data [15:52] <najmi> oo [15:52] <najmi> kalau setakat simpan data [15:52] <mypapit> ya, DO ni utk serv web pages boleh la [15:52] <mypapit> sbb laju kerana ada dc yg simple [15:52] <najmi> aku suggest ambik Google computer punya persistent disk [15:52] <najmi> USD6 utk 150GB per mth [15:52] <najmi> then combine dgn t.micro [15:52] <najmi> total USD10 per mth [15:53] <mypapit> erk? tp Google persistent disk flexible mcm VPS tak? [15:53] <mypapit> boleh set owncloud? [15:53] <najmi> persistent disk tu detachable [15:53] <mypapit> atau boleh benarkan rsync ? [15:53] <najmi> dia modular design [15:53] <najmi> ko kena ada interfacing VPS dia [15:53] <mypapit> icicic [15:53] <najmi> so guna la t.micro tu [15:53] <najmi> paling murah [15:53] <mypapit> ooo mcm tu [15:53] <najmi> mcm EBS disk AWS tak silap [15:53] <najmi> ko apply je AWS research grant [15:53] <najmi> dpt USD750 mcm aku [15:53] <najmi> main sesuka hati [15:54] <najmi> test mcm2 [15:54] <najmi> tak pun Microsoft Azure research grant [15:54] <mypapit> bz sikit skrg ni dgn end of semester stuff [15:54] <najmi> but azure ni mahal even for the simplest vps [15:54] <najmi> ok [15:54] <mypapit> masa final xm, aku sempat explore la [15:54] <najmi> orait [15:54] <najmi> ni aku tanam IRC quassel kat amazon [15:55] <najmi> t.micro, free setahun :) [15:55] <najmi> then subscribe elastic IP sebab nak buat reverse DNS [15:55] <najmi> so bayar utk elastic IP je [15:55] <mypapit> berapa caj elastic ip? [15:56] <mypapit> contabo tu menarik jgk [15:57] <mypapit> 7.99 EUR dpt 6GB ram [15:57] <najmi> nampaknya free utk 1 elastic IP [15:57] <najmi> $0.00 for one Elastic IP address associated with a running instance [15:57] <najmi> $0.005 per additional Elastic IP address associated with a running instance per hour on a pro rata basis [15:57] <najmi> $0.005 per Elastic IP address not associated with a running instance per hour on a pro rata basis [15:57] <najmi> $0.00 per Elastic IP address remap for the first 100 remaps per month [15:57] <najmi> $0.10 per Elastic IP address remap for additional remaps over 100 per month [15:57] <mypapit> ic, najmi biasanya first ip free [15:57] <mypapit> sbb dpt sekali dgn box kot [15:58] <mypapit> kalau nak tmbah lg rdns, kena subscribe additional elastic ip la [15:58] <najmi> http://www.vps-mart.com/Linux-VPS.aspx [15:58] <najmi> ^ni ada free Linux VPS [15:58] <mypapit> aku cuti nnt nak explore google compute engine dgn prediction API [15:58] <najmi> utk 6 bulan [15:58] <mypapit> ada nak test project mobile yg interface dgn prediction api [15:58] <najmi> tapi aku dah submit tadi takde response apa lagi [15:58] <najmi> menarik tu mypapit [15:58] <mypapit> utk estimate radio propagation dgn usebehavior [15:58] <najmi> woot [15:58] <najmi> ko coding sorang ke [15:59] <mypapit> prediction api tu wajib kena amik google cloud storage [15:59] <najmi> untung la.. skill mantap [15:59] <mypapit> najmi, sorg je [15:59] <najmi> kalo aku dh pitam dah [15:59] * najmi skill tak power [15:59] <mypapit> so dari cloud storage tu extend kepd compute engine [15:59] <mypapit> najmi, ala, aku pn baru ja lepas stadi2 basic ai algo [15:59] <najmi> coding guna lang apa [15:59] <mypapit> najmi, Java [15:59] <najmi> mantops [15:59] <mypapit> najmi, dan lepas ni python [16:00] <najmi> ok [16:00] <mypapit> najmi, sbb python cincai sikit kalau nak compute numerical data [16:00] <najmi> ok [16:00] <najmi> go-lang tak try tengok? [16:00] <mypapit> najmi, tak byk sgt songeh [16:00] <mypapit> najmi, pernah... tp aku tak sempat nak stadi [16:01] <mypapit> najmi, aku amik masa 4-5 bulan jgk nak code secara instict kalau guna language baru [16:01] <najmi> ok [16:01] <mypapit> hahaha [16:01] <najmi> jap nk bawak anak tido dlm kelambu [16:01] <mypapit> kalau tak, mesti rs x sedap [16:01] * najmi away [16:01] <mypapit> okok =)
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2015-06-14-#ubuntu-discuss
[00:02] <ruenoak> Morning [00:04] <Bashing-om> ruenoak: \o ' 'tis a good morning for you I trust . [00:05] <ruenoak> Windy and cold but other than that it's good [09:22] <lordievader> Good morning. [09:25] <OerHeks> goodie morning \o/ [09:30] <lordievader> Hey OerHeks, how are you doing? [09:31] <OerHeks> angry birds wake me up again [09:31] <OerHeks> no respect for elderly people and me [09:31] <lordievader> Hehe, angry birds :P [09:33] <OerHeks> yes, few hundred parakeets living in the wild, all green with yellow heads [10:14] <lotuspsychje> !find ctl [10:16] <lotuspsychje> !find wmctrl [10:16] <lotuspsychje> !info wmctrl [10:16] <lotuspsychje> cool [10:17] <lotuspsychje> another handy one for my collection EriC^^ [10:17] <EriC^^> cool [10:38] <BluesKaj> Howdy all [17:33] <Bashing-om> Any catastrophic situations I have missed while resusacating my mental faculties ? [17:45] <daftykins> my parents router has gone funny? :) [17:46] <MonkeyDust> extra-terrestrials have invaded planet earth [17:48] <Bashing-om> daftykins: Yeah, that is a catastrophic issue. Bad eneough when it happens to one's self . Real bad when it is the parent's router ( who uses a phone when ya got IRC ). [17:50] <daftykins> :D [17:50] <Bashing-om> MonkeyDust: Humm ... might be someting to that ?? .. I notice lately a lot of UFO programming on all the major TV networks. Are the governments preparing us for a forthcomming announcement ? [19:08] <ObrienDave> :P [19:18] <BluesKaj> Bashing-om, you guys should tune in to coast-to-coast-AM, they love that kind of silly stuff and pretend to take it seriously :-) [19:19] <ObrienDave> i thought they were serious. LOL [19:21] <BluesKaj> ObrienDave, well, i think they try, but some of ridiculous stories their guests tell are not just out of this world, but I think the guests are out of their minds too. [19:22] <ObrienDave> oh, i knew that years ago LOL [19:22] <BluesKaj> a good way to fall asleep tho,...a bit of fantasy [19:23] <ObrienDave> i suppose ;P [19:26] <BluesKaj> i love some of their right wing conspiracy theorists stories, espcially about the literati and the bilderberg, not to mention the new world order run by the UN and the world bank [19:26] <ObrienDave> yea, those are always a hoot to listen to. [19:30] <ObrienDave> ho hum, lazy sunday in Colorado [19:31] <BluesKaj> raining here, no choice but to be lazy today [19:31] <Bashing-om> ^ slow in Arkansas too . A good thing ?? [19:32] <ObrienDave> arkansas is always slow ;P [19:33] <Bashing-om> Not only slow, but 20 years behind the times :) . Now that might be a real good thing . [19:34] <ObrienDave> why are there no crime statistics for arkansas? [19:34] <ObrienDave> there are no forensic dentists and everyone has the same DNA ;P [19:36] <BluesKaj> you guys are mean :-) [19:37] <Bashing-om> Yeah ! .. There are no strangers, she is your cousin ( 3rd time removed ) . [19:37] <ObrienDave> LOL [19:37] <ObrienDave> had to throw that out there, sorry (not) ;P [19:38] <BluesKaj> I'm an Immigrant , sending fresh genes into the Canadian pool [19:39] <Bashing-om> Truthfully. there is some truth there, back a bit ago, if a man wanted a woman, had to go down to the flat lands to get one . ( all the ones up here were taken ) . [19:40] <BluesKaj> had no choice, parents brought me here when i was 4yrs old [19:41] <ObrienDave> there were some nice parts of arkansas when i was driving the truck. let me see if i can remember any ;P [19:48] <Bashing-om> I returned here after a bunch of years running around, no place like home . Up here is the prettiest place I have ever seen . [19:50] <ObrienDave> i've been across the 40 many times, up to bentonville once. yes, there are some pretty places there [19:56] <lotuspsychje> good evening to all [19:57] <MonkeyDust> more conspiracy theories here : http://xkcd.com/1274/ [19:57] <ObrienDave> still? ;P [19:58] <lotuspsychje> conspiracys are mostly the truth, nobody want to accept [19:58] <MonkeyDust> true, and the russians are to blame for everything [19:59] <ObrienDave> danged rooskies ;P [19:59] <lotuspsychje> there's a lot going on in the financial world above our heads, even politics cant touch [20:01] <lotuspsychje> this is why we need ubuntu, to get opensource free minds to overrule traditional thoughts in the world [20:03] <ObrienDave> i blame the rooskies ;P [20:03] <lotuspsychje> lol [20:05] <BluesKaj> Putin will eventually be putin his place, trying to resurrect the soviet union is not going to work, altho it's unfortunate he's cuasing so much trouble for the Ukraine. [20:06] <MonkeyDust> yes, but if one US state would want to become independent, would the prez let it happen like that? [20:07] <ObrienDave> a US state can't to that, it's in the constitution [20:08] * lotuspsychje doesnt believe in politics [20:08] <MonkeyDust> lotuspsychje what's the alternative to politics? [20:08] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust: gathering forces ourselfs [20:09] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust: im member of Local exchange trading system, and be able to change alot already [20:09] <MonkeyDust> lotuspsychje i agree, on a small scale, but what on large scale? [20:10] <BluesKaj> politics is everywhere, not just in government [20:10] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust: large scale politics only wants your money...there's nothing else then starting small ourselfs [20:10] <lotuspsychje> growing bigger [20:10] <lotuspsychje> you see alternative coins everywhere these days [20:10] <MonkeyDust> power to the people, like the french revolution, 25 years of death, terror, war and misery [20:10] <lotuspsychje> because ppl are tired of traditional politic thieves [20:11] <MonkeyDust> people arent nice to each other [20:11] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust: until ppl learn to go to basic living, there will be war thats true [20:11] <ObrienDave> and i HATE people like that ;P [20:12] <lotuspsychje> greed and materialism is the root problem [20:12] <BluesKaj> heh [20:12] <MonkeyDust> lotuspsychje that's all very nice on a small scale, tribes [20:12] * ObrienDave votes greed [20:13] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust: if all small scaled groups over the worl gather forces [20:13] <lotuspsychje> it can grow big [20:13] <MonkeyDust> yes, and the bigger it grows, the corrupter it becomes [20:13] <MonkeyDust> that's what happened to mankind [20:14] <lotuspsychje> i agree, groups always hold ppl that try to ripoff again [20:14] <BluesKaj> forces = power and we all know what happens next [20:14] <lotuspsychje> but it works opensource doesnt it [20:14] <lotuspsychje> why cant opensource work in society? [20:15] <MonkeyDust> snowden is working on it ;) [20:15] <BluesKaj> because there's very little profit motive [20:15] <lotuspsychje> check cryptome dot org [20:16] <MonkeyDust> and different people have different temperaments, leader and follwers etc... one cruel leader is enough... [20:17] <lotuspsychje> thats true [20:17] <lotuspsychje> one crazy mind can trigger nuclear stuff [20:17] <ObrienDave> Dr. Strangelove ;P [20:18] <BluesKaj> well, time to call it a day ...take care all [20:18] <ObrienDave> l8r [21:01] * ObrienDave stirs up the pot to see who's paying attention ;P [21:12] <Bashing-om> ^^ I am slow for sure , BUT, I am paying attention .. and it cost me a bunch ! [21:13] <ObrienDave> i'm too broke to pay attention ;P [21:15] <Bashing-om> ObrienDave: Thanks to ubuntu, I can stay home ( got no other choice finances wise) and be happy . [21:15] <ObrienDave> +1 [21:16] <MonkeyDust> Me: "I'm happy!" -- Life: "Oh yeah? Wait a sec..." [21:16] <ObrienDave> LOL if it wasn't for bad luck, i would not have any luck at all ;P [21:17] <Bashing-om> I am retarted - 3 years now, and I do things at my pace, s l o w l y . [23:34] <daftykins> g'wan then let's have a Sunday night giggle at #ubuntu [23:35] <ObrienDave> done all the giggling i can stand for now LOL [23:35] <daftykins> :D [23:35] <daftykins> ever played with upnpc? it's part of the miniupnpc package [23:35] <ObrienDave> nope [23:35] <daftykins> i can query my VDSL2 router and get line stats and port forwards, without authentication [23:35] <daftykins> can open one up too [23:36] <ObrienDave> that sounds dangerous in the wrong hands [23:36] <daftykins> yep, though you only tend to keep UPnP on on your router if you want it [23:36] <daftykins> i'm happy to let my games consoles auto port forward so i use it [23:37] <ObrienDave> i never had any luck getting port-forwarding to work [23:38] <daftykins> oh? i do it all the time for services hosted from home [23:38] <ObrienDave> mainly because i only had one person, in china, not be able to DCC files [23:39] <OerHeks> it is party time in #u [23:39] <daftykins> seems so! [23:39] <ObrienDave> i tried the hexchat docs, many times. figured out it's the great firewall of china blocking it [23:39] <daftykins> i wonder if an op will wake soon [23:44] <daftykins> EriC^^: o/ [23:44] <EriC^^> daftykins: \o [23:44] <daftykins> you missed some fine spam artists [23:44] <EriC^^> aww [23:44] <ObrienDave> it's all daftykins's fault ;P [23:44] <EriC^^> lol [23:44] <daftykins> i just wanted to say hi ;_; [23:44] <ObrienDave> he said "hello" ;P
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2015-06-14-#ubuntu
[00:00] <jean-guy> well, if I double clic on a mp3, for example, it is parole media player that tries to open/ play the tune [00:00] <jean-guy> but it does not work well [00:00] <jean-guy> so now, i have to do a right clic, open with, and select rhythm box [00:01] <EriC^^> jean-guy: ok, right click on the mp3, and press properties > open with , choose one and press set as default [00:02] <jean-guy> okee cool, thanks Eric [00:02] <EriC^^> no problem [00:02] <jean-guy> I only have to set thse paramaters ONE time, right? [00:02] <EriC^^> yup [00:05] <celton> hello? [00:05] <promet> celton, hai! [00:06] <promet> Does anyone know, is there a way in Unity (15.04) to have alt-tab show apps on all workspaces, rather than just the current workspace? [00:11] <steveyh19> hi, would anyone be able to help me with an alt-tabbing issue I have with ubuntu 15.04? Whenever a game is running in windowed mode (and has vsync enabled - there's no issue when it's turned off) then alt tabbing has a 1-2 second delay between switching windows (even if I mouse click between them too) [00:11] <steveyh19> Xorg cpu usage shoots up at this moment too [00:12] <Turnip_G1> promet Ctrl+Alt+Arrow key swaps work space, Alt+Tab apps in workspaces. [00:12] <kuba7447> is mir dead yet? [00:13] <MonkeyDust> !mir [00:13] <kuba7447> !wayland [00:14] <kuba7447> mir, "next-generation" [00:14] <kuba7447> lol [00:16] <kuba7447> having to display servers is a bad idea.... [00:16] <kuba7447> *two [00:19] <astroboy> How to show list of main app using terminal? i mean only show main apps just like apps showed on dash [00:19] <astroboy> #juicessh [00:20] <EriC^^> astroboy: ls /usr/share/applications [00:22] <astroboy> thx EriC^^ [00:23] <EriC^^> np [00:24] <astroboy> i also have problem when trying to start clementine from other device remotely using ssh, but work well when i run using terminal locally, what wrong?? [00:24] <EriC^^> how are you trying to start it? [00:25] <EriC^^> you need x-forwarding [00:25] <astroboy> oh, what's x-forwarding? port/ [00:26] <EriC^^> it forwards the x (gui) to your current pc [00:26] <EriC^^> so clementine runs on the server, but the gui is displayed on your pc's x server [00:26] <EriC^^> if you don't need a gui, you could just run mplayer /path/to/mp3 [00:27] <astroboy> no idon't need gui [00:27] <EriC^^> ok, use mplayer /path/to/mp3 [00:28] <EriC^^> i think it should work [00:28] <EriC^^> not sure [00:28] <EriC^^> actually i think it won't, give it a shot though :> [00:29] <astroboy> yah, let me first install mplayer [00:30] <EriC^^> astroboy: you could use sshfs maybe and play it on your pc [00:30] <EriC^^> or just scp the mp3 you want to play [00:30] <bazhang> http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/HTML/en/commandline.html [00:31] <bazhang> it does work [00:31] <EriC^^> bazhang: ssh won't forward the audio right [00:31] <EriC^^> it does? over ssh? [00:32] <bazhang> I missed that part, worth a shot though [00:33] <astroboy> EriC^^, i thing won't too, but i only want to control my music player, actually the server is may pc in my home :) [00:34] <Nikesh> Is there a list somewhere of the best supported/recommended laptops to run Ubuntu on? [00:34] <EriC^^> !certified [00:34] <Nikesh> !certified [00:35] <Nikesh> Hm.. not found [00:35] <bazhang> !hcl [00:35] <Johnny_Linux> just google ubuntu cert laptops [00:36] <EriC^^> Nikesh: also http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/desktop/ [00:37] <Bolvaron> Hi, just wanted to ask if it is possible to run DX-Games with ubuntu, cause im thinking about getting rid of windows but im a gamer [00:38] <bazhang> Bolvaron, with wine [00:38] <Felishia> hello [00:38] <bazhang> !appdb | Bolvaron [00:39] <promet> kuba7447, of wayland & mir, which do you find the least repulsive. [00:40] <Bolvaron> right now im running ubuntu from stick (15.04), and there is one specific game, my hardware should be more than enough [00:40] <James46929> Hello all [00:40] <bazhang> Bolvaron, usb stick will be way too slow for that [00:41] <guest-7yCX2D> ctrc [00:41] <James46929> Anyone using SSD? [00:41] <Bolvaron> i know, bazhang, the installation depends on getting game to run [00:42] <bazhang> !trim | James46929 [00:42] <kuba7447> promet, repulsive? [00:42] <bazhang> promet, thats not a support question [00:43] <James46929> How hard would it be to clone a SATA to SSD? [00:43] <bazhang> James46929, same as any other, not hard [00:43] <kuba7447> i dont like mir because only ubuntu benefits from it, no other distros [00:43] <Johnny_Linux> you dont have to use it [00:44] <bazhang> promet, kuba7447 please take this chat to the offtopic channel, thanks [00:44] <James46929> ...so no issues with a hard drive of one type moved to a hard drive of a different type. [00:45] <bazhang> correct James46929 [00:45] <Felishia> :3 I need my music making program in my linux... e.e [00:45] <Felishia> wine doesn't work [00:45] <psusi> James46929, nope... only difference is in performance characteristics [00:45] <bazhang> ardour rosegarden and the like Felishia [00:46] <bazhang> check out ubuntustudio Felishia [00:46] <bazhang> !studio | Felishia [00:46] <Felishia> I don't like rosegarden, it's too complicated like finale, ends up freezing my creativity because I have to care that the score looks right [00:47] <bazhang> !equivalents | Felishia search here then [00:47] <MACscr> i already have the virtual kernel installed, but it doesnt appear to be used. i was using it before though, so not sure why it switched back to generic. Is there a proper way to switch to the virtual kernel besides manually updating the menu.lst? [00:47] <James46929> Thanks all! Should I use Clonezilla or is there other options? [00:47] <bazhang> James46929, with out without the gui [00:47] <EriC^^> James46929: make sure you take into consideration the size of the hdd you're going to clone it to [00:48] <Bolvaron> OK, found all i need, but i think i have to backup the game to my USB-Drive [00:49] <Bolvaron> as my livesystem doesnt seem to access my 1TB GPT-HDD [00:49] <James46929> I am planning of going from 300 to 500 gig [00:49] <bazhang> make it persistent then Bolvaron [00:50] <bazhang> !usb [00:50] <EriC^^> Bolvaron: do you have windows on it? probably cause of the fast shutdown [00:50] <bazhang> last link Bolvaron [00:50] <Bolvaron> i want to get the /home on the 1TB, so i have to backup my files [00:51] <HallateM> I used to have a boyfriend named Ubuntu once. He would "play the bongos" on my ass. [00:51] <HallateM> I used to have a boyfriend named Ubuntu once. He would "play the bongos" on my ass. [00:51] <HallateM> I used to have a boyfriend named Ubuntu once. He would "play the bongos" on my ass. [00:51] <HallateM> I used to have a boyfriend named Ubuntu once. He would "play the bongos" on my ass. [00:51] <HallateM> I used to have a boyfriend named Ubuntu once. He would "play the bongos" on my ass. [00:51] <HallateM> I used to have a boyfriend named Ubuntu once. He would "play the bongos" on my ass. [00:51] <HallateM> I used to have a boyfriend named Ubuntu once. He would "play the bongos" on my ass. [00:51] <Bolvaron> my plan is: /boot, /swap and / on my 128GB SSD, and /home on my big HDD [00:51] <James46929> Totally different question. Anyone worked with voice commands for ubuntu? [00:53] <Bolvaron> what do you think of my plan_ [00:54] <ObrienDave> Bolvaron, /swap will kill your SSD [00:54] <compdoc> no it wont [00:54] <Bolvaron> so swap on the HDD? [00:54] <compdoc> ssd is best place for swap [00:54] <ObrienDave> an SSD has a limited write life. it's your SSD do what you like [00:55] <James46929> Is swap needed for SSD? [00:55] <Bolvaron> i have a rather good rig, 4770K and GTX 780 with 16gb RAM [00:55] <Bolvaron> so gaming should be doable [00:55] <ObrienDave> how much RAM do you have? [00:55] <Bashing-om> Bolvaron: A separate /boot is something of an anachronism, dating back to limited PC BIOSes that could only handle small disks, so the boot files had to be at the start of the disk. [00:55] <Bolvaron> 16GB [00:55] <ObrienDave> then /swap is NOT needed [00:55] <ObrienDave> at all [00:56] <EriC^^> ( unless you want to be able to hibernate ) [00:56] <Bolvaron> Bashing-om doesnt linux install a /boot when installing bootloader? [00:57] <James46929> My laptop has 4 gig ram.... swap advised on SSD? [00:57] <Felishia> meh nothing looks good :( too profesional for my taste [00:57] <Felishia> I need to think of sounds not of notes [00:58] <Bashing-om> Bolvaron: No, not a seperate /boot partition. the boot is included with '/' . [00:59] <Bolvaron> ok, so ill just save the game on my 32GB Stick, cause i cant access my HDD from Linux (GPT 1TB) [01:00] <Bolvaron> and when i install linux ill format the big disc as /home, ill be back when ive done that [01:00] <Bashing-om> Bolvaron: There should be no reason that from linux you can not access a 1Tb drive . ( maybe Mac file system ?) . [01:00] <EriC^^> Bolvaron: why not [01:01] <Bolvaron> the only discs i see are the live-stick and the System-partition on SSD [01:01] <Bolvaron> and a DVD [01:01] <EriC^^> Bolvaron: type lsblk [01:01] <Bashing-om> Bolvaron: Does bios see the 1TB drive ? [01:02] <promet> Bolvaron, it may not be automounting, what filesystem is on the 1TB [01:02] <MACscr> no one has advice for simply switching to the virtual kernel and thus updates will keep using thew newest virtual kernel as well? [01:02] <James46929> Anyone using Lubuntu in particular? [01:02] <Bolvaron> filesystem GPT / NTFS [01:02] <promet> James46929, lil' bit, why> [01:02] <promet> ? [01:03] <Bolvaron> disk is listed as sdb [01:03] <Bolvaron> partition sdb3 [01:03] <EriC^^> Bolvaron: type sudo mount /dev/sdb3 /mnt [01:03] <EriC^^> does it have windows on it? [01:03] <promet> Bolvaron, so, you can see it, it's just not mounted... [01:03] <Bolvaron> mount: /dev/sdb3 is write-protected, mounting read-only [01:03] <Bolvaron> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb3, [01:03] <Bolvaron> missing codepage or helper program, or other error [01:04] <James46929> Thinking about lubuntu on acer netbook to put together a linux type mobile office. [01:04] <jwash> sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdb3 /mnt [01:04] <promet> do "sudo fdisk /dev/sdb" [01:04] <Dr_Dan> Use xubuntu 14.04 on the Acer [01:04] <promet> what jwash said, if it is indeed ntfs [01:04] <Dr_Dan> i have asus netbook [01:05] <EriC^^> it shouldn't need -t ntfs [01:05] <Bolvaron> its ntfs but without MBR [01:05] <Johnny_Linux> xubuntu will work well on asus [01:05] <EriC^^> Bolvaron: gpt works fine with linux [01:05] <Dr_Dan> ^ ditto [01:05] <Bolvaron> getting error again [01:05] <EriC^^> Bolvaron: do you have important data on it? [01:05] * Felishia dances [01:05] <James46929> xbuntu instead lubuntu? what is advantage? [01:06] <Bolvaron> mz whole games are on it [01:06] <bazhang> Felishia, not here [01:06] <Bolvaron> my [01:06] <EriC^^> Bolvaron: maybe the hdd is going bad? need to use the backup superblock? etc. [01:06] <Dr_Dan> Runs xfce window manager. Therefore fast [01:07] <EriC^^> Bolvaron: try sudo apt-get install smartmontools && smartctl -a /dev/sdb | nc termbin.com 9999 [01:07] <EriC^^> and paste the link here so somebody can check if your hdd is healthy [01:07] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: Bolvaron Is there a hold on the drive such that ubuntu will not touch it , such as "safely unmount" the drive from within Windows ?? [01:07] <James46929> distrowatch said lubuntu uses less resources. Is that wrong? [01:07] <Bolvaron> ok tring [01:08] <Dr_Dan> actually i have 5 asus netbooks, the 1015PX, all with xubuntu. Wifey loves hers. Kids do too [01:08] <psusi> Bolvaron, first, do as the message indicated and run dmesg and see if there are any interesting errors towards the end [01:08] <Bolvaron> http://termbin.com/6z8f [01:08] <Dr_Dan> easier to support too [01:08] <Dr_Dan> :-) [01:08] <EriC^^> Bolvaron: sorry, sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdb | nc termbin.com 9999 [01:09] <promet> James46929, I was recently shopping through distros to save an aged laptop and, in my case xubuntu was, indeed, faster than Lubuntu [01:09] <Dr_Dan> Xubuntu. FTW! [01:09] <Bolvaron> http://termbin.com/lomu [01:09] <promet> I didn't really get into "the guts" of it, but the base desktop responsiveness was noticably faster. [01:10] <EriC^^> anybody have any experience with smartctl ? [01:10] <Dr_Dan> Ive used both, and xubuntu 14 was faster too [01:10] <Bolvaron> afk for a moment [01:10] <Dr_Dan> I also tried Mint. big mistake. It ran slow on netbook [01:11] <joao> Hi everyone! I dont have sound on my phones...Im using lubuntu 64 bit.. I also tried pulse audio.. But i still dont have sound when i plug my phones... [01:11] <Johnny_Linux> prolly hd bad drivers [01:11] <Johnny_Linux> had [01:11] <promet> I've looked around the "small/fast/old-hardware" distros and, while I'm no "pro", I have to say, when in need I think Xubuntu covers the bases most efficiently, plus repos, support, etc. [01:11] <James46929> I not fond of how xubuntu desktop looks. Lubuntu for me still looks a little like windows. Easier for me. [01:11] <Dr_Dan> James, try xubuntu 14. Is your old netbook 32bit or 64bit" [01:12] <James46929> acer 32 bit .... aspire one d250 [01:12] <joao> Anyone to help me? [01:12] <promet> James46929, you can, with a little elbow grease, get Xubuntu to look like darn near anything you'd like <*reiterates elbow grease*> [01:13] <Dr_Dan> Ok. Almost everytning ypu try will 'feel' slow on a 32bit mavhine [01:13] <promet> James46929, it's all of the "blue-ness", isn't it...? [01:13] <James46929> oh... any tutorials on making xubuntu look like windows xp? [01:14] <Bashing-om> !ask | joao [01:14] <promet> put in a dark theme, slap docky or something in there, etc... [01:14] <Dr_Dan> I searched and found 1015px machines for $120 on ebay. With 250 or 320GB and 2GB Ram. [01:14] <promet> That may also raise your overhead a little though... [01:15] <James46929> Got lubuntu pretty fast at present. [01:15] <Bolvaron> 15.04 or 14.04? which kubuntu should i use? [01:16] <joao> Ok can you help me? I followed everything i could find in the net... And nothing... I still have no sound! [01:16] <Johnny_Linux> id go for lts [01:16] <Bolvaron> at least i want to use KDE, dont like the ubuntu desktop [01:16] <Dr_Dan> i put xubuntu on them cause they are 64bit and come with 2GB ram. I then put in a SSD. The machine is good to go after that [01:17] <Bashing-om> Bolvaron: :) If ya have to ask, then it is 14.04 .. as it is a Long Term Support release . [01:17] <Bolvaron> its my first jump on kubuntu, used win for years now [01:18] <ObrienDave> Bolvaron, welcome to the world of FREE software ;P [01:19] <Bolvaron> thanks, but as for now ive not installed it, have to see that i get ffxiv backed up, so ill relog to win and do that first [01:19] <promet> Dr_Dan, that is a good recipe for a pretty blazing xubuntu machine [01:20] <Dr_Dan> I know right [01:20] <Bashing-om> Bolvaron: Release 15.04 (vivid) is supported for 9 months, EOL (End Of Life) comes real quick . [01:20] <racar> tomreyn, (or anyone) do you think calling CRDA could impact my WIFI ? http://pastebin.com/HsGdfWgy ... This is the only thing i see in my dmesg. I still have trouble with my wifi. (stop working after 10 min and i need to toogle the wifi everytime to get it back) [01:20] <Bolvaron> whats the next lts-eta? or at least which will be the next LTS_ [01:20] <Bolvaron> ? [01:20] <EriC^^> Bolvaron: 16.04 [01:20] <promet> I wonder, and I don't want to complicate things, but if you ran a xubuntu base with awesome-wm, or fluxbox as the window manager, if you could squeeze a little more performance out; admittedly not for everyone... [01:21] <James46929> what about openbox? [01:21] <promet> James46929, openbox sounds very good, but I haven [01:21] <Bolvaron> if i install 14.04 kubuntu, will it upgrade to the newest KDE? [01:21] <bazhang> Bolvaron, 16.04 is the next lts [01:21] <Bashing-om> Bolvaron: That be 16.04 ^^ /// the 16th year and the 4th month . New LTS release in 2 year intervals . [01:21] <promet> ...'t had any experience with it [01:21] <James46929> as a Windows manager? [01:22] <bazhang> Bolvaron, there should be a link for that in the title of #kubuntu [01:22] <Dr_Dan> James, give xubuntu a try, but beware that a 32bit machine these days is going to seem slow no matter what you try. Of course theres puppy linux [01:22] <jak2000> DATE=$(date +%F--%T) [01:22] <jak2000> echo %DATE% [01:22] <jak2000> why not displaythe date? [01:22] <promet> I was looking for solutions, and it seemed a little "off the beaten path", i.e. learning curve. I am very curious though [01:22] <Bolvaron> OK, ill be back later, have to backup my important thing first [01:22] <Bolvaron> thanks for all your help [01:22] <EriC^^> jak2000: echo $DATE [01:23] <promet> bazhang, what about 15.04? [01:23] <promet> is that not lts? [01:23] <bazhang> promet, every two years so no [01:24] <James46929> if one does go to openbox... how much trouble to purge the other desktop (xfce or lxde)? [01:24] <bazhang> James46929, just switch in the login window [01:24] <xangua> James46929: openbox is not a desktop [01:25] <bazhang> lubuntu-desktop package James46929 [01:25] <jak2000> EriC^^: http://pastie.org/10239467 [01:25] <jak2000> its ok? [01:26] <Dr_Dan> Theres xfce and lxde. Those are the easiest to switch between. Inmhp [01:26] <Dr_Dan> Imho [01:26] <James46929> what about the lxdt desktop? [01:26] <James46929> lxqt [01:27] <EriC^^> jak2000: i don't know about the mysql command, but with the cp command use "$DATE" in case it has spaces [01:27] <Dr_Dan> James, yes. We discussed our findings. Xfce = xubuntu, lxde = lubuntu. Xubuntu seems faster on a netbook [01:29] <gp5st> "nl80211: send_and_recv->nl_recvmsgs failed: -33" seems to accompany network hicups or just "disconnects" where network manager doesn't report being disconnected but I can't get to anything. Any thoughts? [01:31] <James46929> https://www.wikivs.com/wiki/Lubuntu_vs_Xubuntu. ...is what I found so far. [01:31] <joao> No one to help me??? [01:33] <adante> if i do btrfs device add -- how is it adding the device? like what span mode? [01:34] <jak2000> how to get a date similar to 20150613 i cant: DATE=$(date +%F).sql [01:34] <gp5st> jak2000: I don't understand what you're asking [01:35] <gp5st> why can't you use date [01:35] <Dr_Dan> gp5st: is the signal strong or weak? Maybe the signal is dropping out? [01:35] <gp5st> Dr_Dan: no, it's a decent signal and my wifi and the roku have no problems [01:35] <EriC^^> jak2000: date +%Y%m%d [01:35] <gp5st> (both in the same room as me) [01:36] <jak2000> gp5st i want get in a variable the date with format: YYYYMMDD how to? [01:36] <gp5st> jak2000: you're not being clear. do you not know the right format to give date or is date not working [01:36] <Dr_Dan> WPA,WPA2, or WEP? [01:37] <James46929> Getting late. nite all thanks for info. [01:37] <gp5st> Dr_Dan: WPA2 [01:37] <jak2000> i not know the format [01:37] <gp5st> jak2000: man date [01:37] <EriC^^> jak2000: date +%Y%m%d [01:38] <Dr_Dan> Can you try WEP for a while and if problem goes away, it was a wpa_supplicant bug [01:38] <jak2000> DATE=$(date +%Y%m%d).sql [01:39] <jak2000> done [01:39] <EriC^^> jak2000: you have your password in that script, you should probably change it i guess [01:39] <gp5st> EriC^^: jak2000 really just needs to learn how to read the man pages [01:40] <gp5st> Dr_Dan: I could, but that's a lot of devices to change passwords on :-\ [01:49] <Dr_Dan> gp5st: does the wifi router have debug logs? [01:49] <gp5st> not that i know of [01:50] <Dr_Dan> Hmm [02:05] <gp5st> no other devices have this issue [02:05] <gp5st> also, I'm no fan of network manager. it provides no feedback to these issues, so i'll go for a while waiting to see if it'll say not connected while I can't ping or do dns look ups and nothing changes in it [02:07] <SH4071N> Question, I have a Dell D620 laptop and I noticed that after a few days I have to restart because the wired internet connction drops [02:08] <gp5st> SH4071N: /var/log/syslog have any information on those issues? [02:08] <SH4071N> checking [02:09] <SH4071N> $tate change: disconnected -> prepare (reason 'none') [30 40 0] [02:11] <SH4071N> I think network manager is just buggy [02:11] <SH4071N> I show alot of network manager entries in system log about dropping connections [02:14] <locksmith2> whats good america? [02:15] <SH4071N> depends on what your trying to achieve [02:15] <Dr_Dan> Everything [02:16] <SH4071N> Lagunitas IPA is whats good right now [02:16] <Dr_Dan> gp5st: can launch wpa_supplicant with -d option or try -dd [02:17] <Dr_Dan> That increases debug output [02:17] <Dr_Dan> You will need to kill the current one [02:19] <SH4071N> that could be it, meybe i should change wpa settings on router [02:19] <Dr_Dan> Ok, din is on the table. Got to run. Laterz [02:20] <hpekdemir> hi [02:20] <hpekdemir> is it possible to name a bridge different than brX? [02:21] <hpekdemir> in /etc/network/interfaces [02:22] <stack> can anyone help me with an issue im having [02:23] <K4rinnaa> hi [02:23] <Nytram> lo [02:24] <hpekdemir> any hints? [02:26] <hpekdemir> is it possible to name a bridge different than brX? in /etc/network/interfaces? [02:34] <cheetahw26> where can I download flash for armhf ? [02:35] <cheetahw26> I tried adding the canonical repository, but don't see anything there for flash... [02:35] <Bashing-om> hpeHint: https://www.linux-tips.org/article/73/persistent-device-naming-with-udev ; As per : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2225026&page=2 . Maybe ?? [02:37] <Guest94727> my fresh ubuntu just installed on macbook pro doesn't spot any wifi connection around , even if there are so many ! any help for fix this ? [02:42] <f343nce> Guest94727: Take a look here, naming that network hardware is imparitive, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide [02:51] <xentity1x> can anyone help me figure out why my bluetooth adapter doesnt work on my thinkpad w530 [02:51] <Guest94727> f343nce: it seems disconnected , how can I turn it active ? [02:53] <f343nce> Guest94727: It may need a driver, I think thise have broadcoms, can you confirm the card. [02:54] <xentity1x> can anyone help me figure out why my bluetooth adapter doesnt work on my thinkpad w530 [02:54] <Guest94727> f343nce: yes, that is right , I ve already installed the driver [02:55] <f343nce> Guest94727: Cool, not an area I really know, however you need to follow the ubuntu wiki on this. [02:56] <f343nce> !broadcom [03:00] <sapran> Hi ! [03:01] <guest1> who can help me install wubi? [03:01] <EriC^^> guest1: wubi isn't recommended at all [03:01] <EriC^^> !wubi [03:03] <reisio> hi sap [03:06] <guest1> !install [03:07] <guest1> is there a way to have dual operating system inside windows? [03:07] <EriC^^> !vm [03:08] <sapran> Where are you from Rei? [03:08] <EriC^^> guest1: there's virtualbox and vmware [03:08] <guest1> !qemu [03:08] <EriC^^> !virtualbox [03:09] <EriC^^> !vmware [03:09] <guest1> !wine [03:11] <EriC^^> !virtualizers [03:12] <Lonel> Is there a good resource to learn the in and outs of linux? [03:13] <Lonel> have been using windows up until now... [03:13] <reisio> Lonel: ##linux [03:13] <EriC^^> !manual | Lonel [03:14] <Lonel> Thanks! [03:14] <OerHeks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ http://ubuntuguide.org/ and tons of sites more, depends on the subject [03:14] <guest1> anyone seen cyberjunkie/incognito? [03:15] <reisio> too bad we lost seenserv [03:15] <OerHeks> never heard of those [03:24] <supercom32> Is ubuntu gnome essentially the same as going "apt-get install gnome-desktop-environment" or whatnot? [03:24] <supercom32> Or do they actually do more customizations than that? [03:25] <reisio> ubuntu gnome? [03:25] <supercom32> Should I install Ubuntu Gnome if I want gnome-shell, or should I just install regular Ubuntu and install it on top? Perhaps regular Ubuntu is better supported or something? [03:25] <supercom32> reisio: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/GetUbuntuGNOME [03:26] * reisio headdesks [03:26] <reisio> erm, well [03:26] <reisio> if you want plain GNOME 3, and you haven't installed already, yes, install that [03:26] <OerHeks> !info ubuntu-gnome-desktop [03:26] <reisio> if you've already installed normal Ubuntu, don't waste time reinstalling, you can install ordinary GNOME from there [03:26] <reisio> OerHeks: very useful... [03:27] <syadnom> yeah, install from ISO or apt-get install ubuntu-gnome-desktop [03:27] <OerHeks> gnome-desktop-environment is replaced by gnome, i read [03:28] <OerHeks> that is with extras [03:29] <supercom32> Ok, so UbuntuGnome offers noting that the "ubuntu-gnome-desktop" package wouldn't give you? [03:29] <supercom32> noting = nothing. [03:29] <reisio> supercom32: no particular Ubuntu distro offers anything more than any other [03:29] <reisio> and, for that matter, essentially no GNU/Linux distro at all offers anything more than any other [03:29] <supercom32> reisio: Bugs perhaps? lol [03:29] <reisio> purely theoretically [03:30] <syadnom> supercom32, it's the same [03:30] <moondog> reisio: nice to hear someone admit that [03:30] <supercom32> reisio: I was hoping UbuntuGnome would just save me from having to un-integrate unity and junk. [03:30] <reisio> supercom32: it would, but it won't save you time if you've already installed the Unity version [03:30] <f343nce> supercom32: do a net install and do what you want. [03:31] <moondog> I'd go so far as to say... not that much difference between distros in general. funny how some tout the inclusion of this app or that app. really? [03:31] <reisio> well there are differences, but not really on a 3rd party software level [03:31] <reisio> (for example with GNOME) [03:31] <reisio> you can get GNOME on any [03:33] <darthanubis> but access to the latest gnome will vary with distro [03:33] <reisio> nope [03:33] <reisio> ease of access might, though [03:33] <syadnom> supercom32, the only thing you will notice is more apps installed, and more options in the session manager [03:33] <darthanubis> oh, gnome 3.16 is in Debian? [03:34] <reisio> darthanubis: probably [03:34] <darthanubis> it's not [03:34] <reisio> darthanubis: yes it is [03:35] <darthanubis> https://www.0d.be/debian/debian-gnome-3.16-status.html [03:35] <reisio> what's 0d.be? [03:36] <darthanubis> point being there is a difference in distro if the user is looking for something specific like the latest gnome [03:36] <reisio> darthanubis: try https://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&suite=all&section=all&keywords=gnome [03:36] <supercom32> syadnom: Oh, so regular Ubuntu offers more apps? [03:36] <reisio> point being you're wrong [03:36] <reisio> most people are, don't sweat it [03:36] <darthanubis> sure :) [03:36] <syadnom> supercom32, no, all ubuntu offers the same apps. [03:37] <syadnom> roughly...I suppose there are custom ones with default repos for things not in the regular repos [03:37] <supercom32> syadnom: You said more options in the session manager? [03:37] <syadnom> supercom32, yeah, options for your new gnome shell and for unity. [03:37] <reisio> but even if gnome 3.16 weren't in Debian's repos, you could go to gnome.org, get it, and install it [03:37] <reisio> would only be a matter of _easte_ of access :) [03:37] <darthanubis> lol [03:38] <syadnom> gnome 3.16 is still marked experimental in pre-packaged form [03:38] <reisio> yeah? [03:38] <reisio> what else can you tell us that's written clearly on pages already linked? [03:39] <darthanubis> 61% ready in Debian, but one could install straight from Gnome Staging PPA in any ubuntu-ish flavor, like I'm running now [03:39] <reisio> I got one for you [03:39] <reisio> Exact hits [03:39] <reisio> that's written, too [03:39] <reisio> fun game, this [03:39] <darthanubis> Try that in Debian, and you will likely break your system [03:39] <reisio> darthanubis: probably not any more likely than on Ubuntu [03:39] <darthanubis> In ubuntu you can revert with just an apt-purge [03:39] <darthanubis> sorry [03:39] <darthanubis> ppa-purge [03:40] <darthanubis> you have to love that [03:40] <reisio> what package is ppa-purge part of? [03:40] <reisio> itself? [03:40] <reisio> you can install that on Debian, too [03:40] <reisio> y'know why? Ubuntu is Debian [03:42] <syadnom> reisio, you're basically taking the slackware approach to ubuntu/debian the way you are talking. gnome 3.16 is NOT in debian, you can't will it into the repos. installable and 'in' a distro are not the same thing [03:42] <darthanubis> syadnom, ty [03:43] <syadnom> and ubuntu is not debian, a blanket statement that ubuntu is Debian is useless as MANY packages in ubuntu land will not 'install' on debian, meaning that dpkg -i package.deb doesn't work [03:43] <reisio> man you have problems [03:43] <reisio> it's in Debian repos [03:43] <syadnom> it's not [03:43] <reisio> it really is [03:43] <reisio> y'know how I know? I looked [03:43] <reisio> try it :p [03:43] <syadnom> it's in experimental [03:43] <reisio> what is? [03:43] <reisio> the gnome 3.16 that's in debian repos? [03:44] <reisio> answer carefully now :p [03:44] <supercom32> lol [03:44] <reisio> just because ubuntu has no experimental branch and debian has doesn't mean debian hasn't the package [03:44] <reisio> it just means debian can be more stable :p [03:44] <syadnom> gnome-shell is in debian experimental, not debian proper that sane people install [03:44] * reisio yawns [03:45] * reisio is more infallible than usual tonight [03:45] <syadnom> i means nothing of the sort, it means debian doesn't have a maintainer for up-to-date gnome and ubuntu does [03:45] <reisio> syadnom: shhhh, quiet now [03:45] <supercom32> Personally I would say debian proper is the one you want to use. Experimental shouldn't exactly count. But meh [03:45] <syadnom> you are wrong more than you are right [03:46] <reisio> supercom32: even though Ubuntu is sourced from unstable Debian? Come now [03:46] <reisio> syadnom: I just read 'syadnom' now and then not the rest of the line :) [03:46] <reisio> little smile creeps across my face, though [03:47] <syadnom> arrogant without cause, and falls back to semantics to dodge being wrong. [03:47] <reisio> heh, that was a good one, 'cause I read your nick and 'arrogant', then stopped :p [03:48] <kabaresi> te [03:48] <syadnom> ...and proving my point... [03:48] <kabaresi> szhelo [03:48] <kabaresi> ubnut [03:48] <reisio> kabaresi: heyo [03:48] <reisio> heyo kabra [03:49] <guest1> virtual box is to install a server? [03:50] <reisio> guest1: not specifically, no [03:50] <reisio> it's to emulate hardware for rare situations [03:50] <reisio> (or simple tourism) [03:52] <Guest87948> hi [03:53] <reisio> hi guest [03:53] <reisio> /nick awesomedude [03:54] <guest1> talking to me [03:54] <guest1> ? [03:54] <guest1> i have the virtualbox [03:54] <reisio> guest1: I was earlier [03:54] <xyzzy81> mmmm virtualbox [03:55] <guest1> oracle virtualbox [03:55] <reisio> mmmm, virtualbox, what fine awful XML files and juvenile software you have [03:55] <reisio> guest1: yes, what about it? [03:55] <guest1> can i install ubuntu and use virtualbox inside windows [03:55] <xyzzy81> sure thing [03:55] <reisio> guest1: what xyzzy81 said [03:55] <xyzzy81> it's quite straight forward. So long as you mount the iso and follow the gui installer [03:55] <Starhero> Mic check 1 2 [03:55] <xyzzy81> and set the network to NAT [03:55] <reisio> xyzzy81: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0429277/ [03:55] <reisio> Starhero: fail [03:56] <reisio> nat is default [03:56] <xyzzy81> ahh well there ya go then :) [03:56] <guest1> tutorial please [03:56] <guest1> thank you [03:56] <reisio> guest1: you want to install Ubuntu within VirtualBox as running on Windows? [03:56] <xyzzy81> Zyzzyx Rd! What is this magic? [03:56] <guest1> reisio yes! [03:56] <Starhero> shit, gotta stop trying to crtl-a all my text and backspace...not gonna work in bybu [03:57] <reisio> guest1: download Ubuntu install image, create vm for ubuntu, set the install image as mounted cd, start vm, install as normal [03:57] <xyzzy81> First link in search guest1. http://www.wikihow.com/Install-Ubuntu-on-VirtualBox [03:57] <dora> I'm trying to back up my Kubuntu installation with Clonezilla, using a Seagate USB expansion disk, and Clonezilla won't see the USB drive. System sees it when booted. Have NTFS partition w image of Windows 7 system, and a Fat 32 partition. [03:57] <guest1> reisio, i dont have cd-rom [03:57] <xyzzy81> you don't need a cd rom [03:57] <reisio> dora: might be ignoring it because fat can't store more than 4GB or so [03:58] <dora> What do I format it as? [03:58] <xyzzy81> you just need the iso file. Check that link I just posted. It'll explain everything [03:58] <reisio> dora: something else; but I wouldn't bother [03:58] <reisio> dora: backing up your /home/ is enough [03:58] <dora> Originally I had formatted it on Windows 7 computer as xfat and it didn't see that [03:58] <reisio> all the rest of the system is mirrored the world over [03:58] <reisio> !clone @ dora [03:58] <reisio> !clone [03:58] <reisio> ubottu: not much chance of that [03:58] <dora> No, I have actual software I don't want to spend a week to reinstall tomorrow when the system breaks again. [03:59] <xyzzy81> lol [03:59] <reisio> like I said [03:59] <reisio> dora: see bot's msg [03:59] <dora> what do you mean see bot's msg? [03:59] <reisio> there's a msg above, from a bot [03:59] <reisio> see it [03:59] <Starhero> Might someone be able to tell me how I am suppose to do this "Ensure that ping $(hostname -f) shows the real IP address, not 127.0.1.1. Change or remove this entry from /etc/hosts if present." It does what it shouldn't but the orgin of where that sentence comes from does not state exactly what to write/take out of said hostfile [03:59] <dora> Did you mean literally format it as "something else"? Then what? [04:00] <dora> Where? I don't see a message from a bot. [04:00] <reisio> dora: could try NTFS [04:00] <reisio> ubottu is a bot [04:00] <reisio> a dumb one [04:00] <dora> OK. But it doesn't see the NTFS partition either. [04:00] <reisio> but still a bot [04:00] <Starhero> if it means , verbaitum that peice of ...code..for lack of a better discription [04:00] <reisio> dora: how big is the NTFS partition? [04:01] <reisio> it might ignore any partition that cannot possibly hold a copy [04:01] <reisio> due to size or filesystem limitations [04:01] * reisio isn't familiar with clonezilla nonsense [04:01] <xyzzy81> Starhero: Have you tried #networking? [04:01] <dora> NTFS partition is about 300 gigs. Fat32 partition is about 210 gigs. [04:01] <adante> how do i start and stop the samba service nowadays? is it sstill service samba stop/start? or have we moved to another framework? [04:02] <dora> I have used Clonezilla to back up Ubuntu installations before - it IS possible. [04:02] <adante> when i run 'service samba stop' and then 'service samba status' it says "smbd is running" [04:02] <adante> (i was hoping to stop it) [04:02] <Starhero> xyzzy81: No I haven't but I will join them. [04:02] <dora> I thought then too I used my Windows 7 computer to format it as Xfat. [04:02] <reisio> dora: if I were you, I'd backup /home/, with rsync, and backup a list of your installed packages, with what ubottu says in response to '!clone' [04:02] <dora> Samba - I dimly remember something about smb. [04:02] <xyzzy81> Starhero: Good luck. I'm reasonably new to networking myself so hopefully you find the answer you're looking for. [04:03] <xyzzy81> Still start, stop, restart as far as I'm aware adante [04:03] <dora> OK, no. Want to back up whole thing. AND, it isn't seeing ANYTHING< not even a 4 gig partition, so not able to back up anything. [04:03] <xyzzy81> adante: Are you doing it from the working directory? [04:03] <dora> I'm sorry if you think that any decent moral human being would spend their ENTIRE life continually reinstalling LInux. I don't think so! [04:04] <xyzzy81> Reinstalling and installing distros is what life is all about /partialsarcasm [04:04] <dora> So. How do I get Clonezilla to see even 4 giggs? Because so far you haven't actually told me how to get it to see the drive AT ALL. [04:06] <guest1> what hard drive file type? [04:06] <guest1> vdi? [04:07] <reisio> guest1: default is fine [04:07] <guest1> there is no default [04:07] <reisio> guest1: if you named the vm something like 'Ubuntu', the icon will change to an almost-copy of Ubuntu's logo [04:07] <xyzzy81> vdi is fine [04:07] <guest1> the first one is vdi [04:07] <reisio> and all the defaults will be fine [04:07] <reisio> guest1: it's probably selected, that makes it the default [04:12] <xyzzy81> How'd you go guest1? [04:12] <guest1> i am reading the instruction on opening file in storage [04:13] <guest1> i set up vm [04:13] <xyzzy81> good work [04:16] <guest1> i am stuck [04:16] <dora> Trying this one more time. How do I get Clonezilla to see my usb drive? It currently has an NTFS partition and a Fat32 partition and doesn't see either of them, and didn't see the partition when it was Xfat either. [04:16] <xyzzy81> guest1: So long as you mount the ISO, you should be able to just run it and all the defaults should work right off the bat [04:17] <guest1> i dl the file on foxfire but storage..is looking for hard drive or cd not a file. [04:17] <reisio> clonezilla the live OS? [04:17] <reisio> you should probably go to #clonezilla [04:19] <xyzzy81> guest1: In Settings>Storage, select "empty" under the Storage Tree. Then under attributes to the right of that window, select the CD icon and navigate to where you saved the ISO file. Double click it and voila, it'll mount. Then just run it [04:19] <Scraak> TF2 has 10-20 fps regardless of graphics settings, ubuntu 14.04 ATI radeon graphics [04:21] <xyzzy81> guest1: There's also #vbox you can join to ask for help if you're not getting what you need here. [04:23] <Scraak> TF2 has 10-20 fps regardless of graphics settings, ubuntu 14.04 ATI radeon graphics [04:24] <xyzzy81> Are you on KDE Scraak ? [04:24] <Scraak> no [04:25] <xyzzy81> Sooo are you asking a question or just stating a fact? [04:25] <Scraak> Sorry. How do I fix the low framrate problem? [04:25] <guest1> is it amd 64? [04:25] <dora> I have a problem with a seagate expansion drive. In Kubuntu, in Disks, it shows as two separate hard drives, 1 T, neither mounted. Yet I just used Gparted to create and format partitions. One drive shows the correct partitions and formats, the other shows no media. What the????? [04:25] <Scraak> guest1, yes [04:25] <guest1> it is not working xyzzy81 [04:26] <cyborg__> boa noite a todos [04:26] <xyzzy81> Maybe start from scratch guest1. Select new, put in Ubuntu, and keep all the defaults it gives you. Then select settings to repeat the above post I gave you. [04:28] <guest1> error in supr3hardenedwinrespawn [04:28] <guest1> what does this mean? [04:28] <xyzzy81> I have no idea. when did you get that error? needs context [04:30] <xyzzy81> quick google suggests that it might be conflicting with your AV guest1 [04:30] <xyzzy81> guest1: https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=62615 [04:31] <guest1> error relaunching virtualbox vm process [04:31] <guest1> there is a command line [04:32] <xyzzy81> Yeah, have a look at the link I just posted. [04:35] <cyborg_> ola [04:39] <guest1> sounds like i have n older version of oracle [04:47] <SubCool> ok, heres a new one. ANyone know a file/picutre sorting program i can use that will sort pictures based on their filenames? my pictures are named by the date they were taken. I want to sort them all into folder based on those file names. [04:47] <SubCool> im tyring to use picasa and shotwell, but the best i can see is the option to sort them by modified date, which can change. [04:50] <Guest89508> is there anyway to switch off wifi lan from bios or somewhere else ? [04:51] <syadnom> Guest89508, from somewhere else, yes ....not from bios though [04:52] <guest1> did it [04:52] <guest1> must i install ubuntu? [04:52] <guest1> do you have instructions on how to install ubuntu within the vm [04:52] <Guest89508> syadnom: can you show me how ? [04:53] <syadnom> do you have a hardware switch? is it a laptop or desktop? [04:54] <tanuki> I have a VM running Trusty server, on a host running Trusty server. Can someone tell me why the VM is suddenly running memtest86+? [04:55] <cfhowlett> tanuki, because you told it to. [04:55] <tanuki> cfhowlett: I'm pretty sure I didn't. [04:56] <tanuki> so either I have a poltergeist or there's a bug of some sort. [04:56] <cfhowlett> tanuki, it doesn't run automatically and must be triggered by user. you're the user? ... [04:56] <tanuki> cfhowlett: Again, I never triggered it. [04:57] <guest1> i'm in! [04:57] <fraguk> Get free hosting on our newly opened free hosting website. Branded Free (no adverts) PHP 5 installed visit https://www.criosphinx.net or apply through our forums at http://www.criosphinx.net/community [04:58] <fraguk> Get free hosting on our newly opened free hosting website. Branded Free (no adverts) PHP 5 installed visit https://www.criosphinx.net or apply through our forums at http://www.criosphinx.net/community [04:58] <guest1> i think i am in as a guest [04:58] <guest1> i am in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 [04:58] <Guest89508> syadnom: is a laptop , I don't know about the hardware switch , Im using ubu 14.04 on macbook pro [04:58] * tanuki reboots his server (running quasselcore) [04:58] <guest1> where is he? [04:58] <syadnom> Guest89508, then you'll have to do it in the network manager app, there is no hardware switch on macbooks [04:58] <guest1> xyzzy81?????? [05:04] <Guest89508> syadnom: I see , I was trying to figure out to fix my wifi lan ,that is switched off in somehow and I can't make it work again... thanks anyway! [05:04] <xyzzy81> guest1: Good going! :) [05:14] <guest1> xyzzy81 [05:14] <guest1> xyzzy81 do i install ubuntu inside of vm [05:14] <guest1> xyzzy81 i think i am guest [05:21] * cfhowlett does not appreciate spam, autobot or otherwise. will NOT do any form of business with fraguk's crappy planet [05:27] <scatterp> hi can any one help me with sound i have tried https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1036508 and reinstall/upgrade now i am running 15.04 [05:30] <linuxuz3r> what is smp boot [05:30] <linuxuz3r> is smpboot responsible for hyperthreading [05:34] <guest1> !install [05:34] <guest1> !updates [05:34] <guest1> !update [05:37] <cfhowlett> guest1, privatize your ubottu triggers like this: /msg ubottu !update [05:38] <zulus> Всем привет! [05:39] <B0g4r7> !ru | zulus [05:39] <cfhowlett> !ru | zulus [05:40] <guest1> what is the command to get the command prompt? [05:41] <B0g4r7> guest1: ...either "sh" or "Terminal", depending on what you mean. ctrl-alt-f1 may work also. [05:43] <ubuntuuser1> I am looking for a cliboard manager with these bare minimum features: [05:44] <suryahadi22> oke... [05:44] <ubuntuuser1> A clipboard that has: COPY-PASTE and SEARCH the HISTORY/entires with a shortcut and shortcut to shuffle through history/entries? [05:47] <suryahadi22> Gays.... [06:22] <gagalicious> ipconfig no response after 2 secs - giving up.. i'm trying to set up diskless ubuntu 14.04... can anyone help? what does it mean? [06:31] <gagalicious> how do i slow down my tftp connection so i can see the ip being connected? [06:34] <gagalicious> ipconfig no response after 2 secs - giving up.. i'm trying to set up diskless pxe boot client with ubuntu 14.04... can anyone help? what does it mean? [06:39] <pungi-man> I am trying to compile glibc, but when I run make I get an error saying "Makeconfig:42: *** missing separator (did you mean TAB instead of 8 spaces?). Stop." [06:39] <pungi-man> I replaced all the tabs with spaces and the error still persists [06:42] <badbodh> pungi-man, #glibc ought to be more helpful [06:42] <pungi-man> badbodh, okay [06:45] <mach20x> VLC keeps freezing on me while watching a movie [06:46] <mach20x> Can't do anything to exit the app, even though the sound is playing [06:47] <gagalicious> tftp dhcp ip is too fast. i cant catch it as it flashese to the pxeboot menu... how can i get the ip or slow down the tftp screen? [06:48] <mach20x> The only thing I can do is reboot using the button on the hardware [06:57] <dora> How can I change a disk label from Seagate Expansion+ to Seagate? [06:58] <LeMike> i guess it was e2label dora [06:59] <dora> Thanks - I'll look that up. [07:01] <dora> I think I need more specific instructions than that. I put e2label /dev/sdc Seagate and it said it can't find valid filesystem superblock. [07:03] <Seveas> dora: try the actual filesystem (e.g. sdc1, sdc2 etc.), not the disk. [07:03] <dora> But changing the partition names didn't change the name of the disk. [07:03] <dora> Fact that the volume name is illegal in Linux seems to be causing problems. [07:06] <habbasi> Hello. How do I find EXACTLY how a given package on the Ubuntu repo was built? [07:06] <Seveas> habbasi: download the source package, check the debian/ folder in that package [07:06] <habbasi> (Need to modify a package to my own liking) [07:07] <habbasi> Seveas: Thanks. [07:08] <Seveas> habbasi: and modifying the package means apt-get build-dep package, apt-get install devscripts pbuilder, make your changes, dch -i, debuild -S, pbuilder init, pbuilder build ../the_new_source_package.dsc [07:12] <habbasi> Seveas: How do I see what source was compiled? [07:12] <habbasi> Seveas: Do build the package? [07:12] <habbasi> s/Do/To [07:14] <habbasi> habbasi: The *.tar.xz includes files, but not source. [07:22] <n00b> hi [07:23] <Seveas> habbasi: sure it includes source. 'apt-get source package' downloads the package's .dsc file and uses it to find and download the source. Generally there's an orig.tar.gz (or bz2, or xz) and a debian.tar.gz or debian.diff.gz [07:23] <habbasi> Seveas: Thanks. :D [07:24] <inerkick> hi.. I am trying to configure Aptana IDE with Bitnami Django. But unable to do it, this is the issue so far. Can anyone help me with the packages which require to set this right https://community.bitnami.com/t/configure-bitnami-in-aptana/29174 [07:25] <e^0> how to find the list of installed packages ? [07:25] <e^0> from command line [07:26] <Seveas> inerkick: ask aptana support. Looks like you're using a version of aptana meant for a different distro, or for a different version of Ubuntu. [07:26] <Seveas> e^0: dpkg -l | grep ^ii [07:26] <navid_> HI [07:26] <navid_> yo [07:26] <navid_> what [07:27] <Seveas> well, that was enlightening :) [07:28] <inerkick> no [07:28] <inerkick> it's for linux deb file only Seveas [07:28] <e^0> Seveas: thanks [07:29] <inerkick> Seveas, Aptana_Studio_3_Setup_Linux_x86_3.6.1.zip is the one i'm using [07:29] <Seveas> inerkick: as I said, ask aptana support. It's not something we support. [07:30] <inerkick> ok Seveas [07:39] <__john_doe__> hey guys, I have problems with vmware player... when I start virtual machine, it just crashes [07:40] <__john_doe__> worked well a few days ago and I didn't restart computer or changed anything on the vm in the mean time [07:42] <badbodh> __john_doe__, first of all remove those underscores from your bloody nick [07:43] <badbodh> very difficult to highlight your nick [07:43] <badbodh> if vmware crashes , there's got to be some 'change' on your system [07:44] <__john_doe__> apt-get update apt-get upgrade [07:44] <badbodh> some setting, install/update/remove anything [07:44] <__john_doe__> that's the only change [07:44] <badbodh> check your apt log and see what changes were made, check if vmware depends on any of them [07:45] <badbodh> depends ~> dependency [07:45] <__john_doe__> can I somehow check if there's any runtime error when I start vm? I tried dmesg but I didn't find anything [07:46] <__john_doe__> and I get this if I run it from terminal [07:46] <__john_doe__> I/O warning : failed to load external entity "/etc/vmware/hostd/proxy.xml" [07:46] <badbodh> start it from terminal then [07:46] <__john_doe__> and when I press play on specific vm, it just crashes [07:46] <__john_doe__> no errors diplayed in terminal [07:48] <jrc> 1 [07:50] <jrc> 1 [07:52] <badbodh> __john_doe__, vmware channel could be of more help. if they say it is distro specific problem, come back [07:52] <badbodh> #vmware i think [07:52] <__john_doe__> okay [07:54] <austin4312> Hi! I would appreciate if you guys could help me out. Here is the problem I'm facing: [07:54] <austin4312> So I am trying to get the Vino VNC Server to startup on boot, meaning I don't have to login to have the VNC Server start. I am on Ubuntu GNOME 15.04, and I have already added "/usr/lib/vino/vino-server" to 'Startup Applications'. [07:54] <austin4312> However, the VNC Server still won't start as soon as I boot up. I have to login in order for the VNC Server to start. What should I do? [07:58] <badbodh> austin4312, 'startup applications' only run after login. what you need is some init script (or systemd?!) thingy to run at boot [07:58] <badbodh> which ubuntu are you using ? [07:58] <austin4312> badbodh Ubuntu GNOME 15.04 [07:59] <austin4312> badbodh How should I go about configuring a script for systemd? [07:59] <badbodh> beyond my level of comprehension austin4312 , you need an expert :D [07:59] <austin4312> haha alright. [07:59] <austin4312> Anybody able to help me out? [08:00] <badbodh> or perhaps web search about systemd/boot/run-level thingies [08:02] <austin4312> badbodh I've tried, but those that are for Vino specifically are very rare, and I have no idea how to modify those created for other VNCs. [08:07] <gablu> hi any1 there? [08:07] <gablu> i just wanted a simple help [08:08] <jrc> 1 [08:08] <gablu> how to start a shell script at boot in linux without using the DM tools [08:10] <EriC^^> a shell script after you login? [08:11] <gablu> yup [08:12] <ikonia> last jParkton [08:12] <ikonia> oops [08:12] <gablu> eric [08:12] <gablu> i wanted to start conky after boot (7 secs after Desktop loads) .. so i made a shell script [08:12] <gablu> and placed it in /etc/init.d/ [08:13] <gablu> then i made a symlink ln -s /etc/init.d/script.sh /etc/rc.d/ [08:14] <gablu> any1 there? [08:14] <linuxuz3r> http://www.twitch.tv/ps4playin [08:17] <jrc> 3 [08:38] <EriC^^> gablu: still there? [08:41] <teikon> My cursor is gigantic - system does not seem to respond to change in settings (14.04) - anyone know whats wrong? [08:42] <teikon> cursor = mouse cursor [08:44] <yacc> Any idea how to get an updated Intel video driver on 14.04? [08:45] <teikon> yacc -> https://launchpad.net/~oibaf/+archive/ubuntu/graphics-drivers [08:47] <scatterp> hi can any one help me with sound i have tried https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1036508 and reinstall/upgrade now i am running 15.04 [08:48] <teikon> 4K screen seems to corrupt my mouse cursor (way too large) . Cannot find any config that the UI responds too. [08:51] <guser1> Hi, where can I find a list of updates that are soon published / need to be reviewed in Offical ubuntu repos? I am waiting especially for Thunderbird 38 [08:52] <walter> giorno [08:54] <MACscr> what should i do if my menu.lst file isnt being updated with the newest kernel that apt-get is downloading? update-grub doesnt seem to phase it either [08:55] <MACscr> im running 14.04 [08:57] <lewis1711> https://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/ - trying to download flash from here. I get an error message about "vivid-partners" not being known. and no, flashplugin-installer doesn't work (it errors out when failing to fetch an archive) [08:57] <lewis1711> is there anywhere else I can get the raw .deb and do it myself? [08:58] <guser1> lewis1711:Open Ubuntu Software Center and enbale partner repos ;) [08:58] <guser1> lewis1711: At the software sources menu [09:00] <lewis1711> guser1, thanks. there's nothing like that in my software center but Ishould be able to add it manually [09:01] <guser1> lewis1711: http://askubuntu.com/questions/14629/how-do-i-enable-the-partner-repository [09:02] <MACscr> lol, guess my grub is still 0.97 [09:02] <MACscr> that seems a bit odd [09:02] <guser1> lewis1711: just use vivid not maverick [09:02] <lewis1711> guser1, yeah I meant to say that "partner repositories" isn't there, but I get the gist, find the text that activates it then do it manually [09:03] <OerHeks> MACscr, if that is so, you have upgraded since 2012 .. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Upgrading [09:05] <MACscr> perfect. thanks! [09:10] <lewis1711> getting the exact same popup. added the vivid partners to my sources.lst [09:12] <lewis1711> did apt-get update, it added a bunch of stufff [09:13] <lewis1711> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/996cbc84312e09b498c9 that's the output of download flashplugin-installer [09:18] <OerHeks> that plugin was for precise. and is deleted. so you didn't update ? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/adobe-flashplugin/ [09:19] <lewis1711> OerHeks, weird. I did apt-get update [09:21] <lewis1711> OerHeks, oh, I see what you were saying. the package name has changed [09:22] <OerHeks> lewis1711, that too, for all multimedia plugins, just install the ubuntu-restricted-extras package, flash, fonts, codecs and such [09:25] <moses> I cant get my nvidia drivers to save the config i edit [09:26] <OerHeks> moses, sure, go into nvidia settings, it has a button to produce an xorg.conf and option to save it. [09:27] <OerHeks> 2nd line xserver display configuration, 'save to x configuration file' [09:46] <ehem> hey budies [09:46] <ehem> can you hear me? [09:47] <lotuspsychje> ehem, how can we help you? [09:47] <wisdomia> Sup dudes, are there any math guys in here than can help me with a really annoying algorithm I am trying to come up with? [09:48] <lotuspsychje> wisdomia, try the ##programming guys [09:48] <wisdomia> thanks will do [09:49] <Guest77212> I'm looked at my drive in a liveCD and some files were had different owner (user:1000) why? [09:51] <OerHeks> user1000 is the user account number of the live session, perfectly normal. [09:54] <Guest77212> How can I see that loggin into the harddrive install os. Which will be seen as 1000 in a liveCD. Because those files were locked. [09:54] <OerHeks> Guest77212, what are you trying to do? [09:56] <Guest77212> I want to restore file permission for files when I in the liveCD. Default user 1000 but it shows up as per in my install. [09:56] <Guest77212> Some files are locke [09:56] <Guest77212> Some files are locked [09:57] <OerHeks> Yes, 1st user on an installed ubuntu has usernumber 1000 too. [09:57] <OerHeks> files are locked ... should be read only indeed on a live iso [09:57] <OerHeks> i cannot help you there with filepermissions restoring [09:58] <Guest77212> Some files on my harddrive install are locked, under home. Just some ordinary files. [09:59] <teikon> anyone running ubuntu on a 4k monitor also has the problem of huge cursor size? [10:00] <lotuspsychje> Guest77212: what are you trying to do with those files? [10:00] <Guest77212> Just, copy them, go into folder etc [10:01] <Guest77212> I will try to reset the files. Bye [10:02] <lotuspsychje> teikon: is the resolution normal? [10:02] <Guest15964> Hello all. I have a bluetooth adapter that I am trying to connect to my ubuntu laptop. Pairing is successful, but after pairing the device appears in sound settings and disappears immediately. [10:02] <BobbySteed> This appears to be a bug in 15.04. First time I installed Ubuntu Studio 15.04 I was able to mount my NTFS partitions, but subsequently I get "No object for D-Bus interface" when I try to mount them. [10:03] <teikon> lotuspsychje everything not cursor related is normal. [10:03] <Daghdha> Correct me if i am wrong but: Wasn't it possible to press a button on the 'Software Updater' dialog to update what updates need to be installed? I realy miss that because now i have to close it and restart it. Then i have the updated updates. [10:03] <Daghdha> I am pretty sure that was in the old one [10:03] <lotuspsychje> teikon: thats weird indeed, wich graphics driver loaded? [10:05] <teikon> lotuspsychje running 2560x1440. The cursor graphics gets fuzzy when resizing. Driver is driver=i915 latency=0 [10:06] <lotuspsychje> teikon: maybe this can help? http://superuser.com/questions/768830/mouse-cursor-scaling-issues-in-xubuntu-14-04-with-xfce-4-10 [10:06] <fredrik> Hi, I've just installed a custom Ubuntu version in Virtualbox on a MacBook and I want to remap my left alt key. I want it to work exactly as the right alt key currently work [10:06] <Guest15964> Hello all. I have a bluetooth adapter that I am trying to connect to my ubuntu laptop. Pairing is successful, but after pairing the device appears in sound settings and disappears immediately. Does anyone know how to solve this? [10:07] <fredrik> I've been trying to do this in xmodmap and I know that the left alt key has keycode 64 (and the right alt key 128). If I can figure out what the right alt key does in xmodmap's language, I can solve my problem. I need to run 'xmodemap -e "keycode 64 = <insert whatever keycode 128 is currently doing>"' [10:07] <fredrik> I haven't been able to figure out that though -- anyone know? [10:07] <lotuspsychje> teikon: or this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/227292/huge-mouse-cursor-arrow-after-installing-nvidia-drivers [10:07] <teikon> lotuspsychje thanks already tried that. [10:08] <EriC^^> fredrik: you just say keycode 64 = name you get from right alt [10:08] <OerHeks> teikon, logout/login after that tweak AFAIK [10:08] <EriC^^> fredrik: type xev, then press right alt and see the name [10:08] <teikon> lotuspsychje, im not using nvidia driver [10:09] <BobbySteed> Bug in 15.04? First time I installed Ubuntu Studio 15.04 I was able to mount NTFS partitions, but now I get "No object for D-Bus interface" when I try to mount them. [10:09] <EriC^^> fredrik: mine is Alt_R [10:09] <lotuspsychje> teikon: try dconf-editor org.gnome.desktop.interface and maybe you can set cursor size [10:09] <teikon> OerHeks, thanks tried it. No effect. [10:09] <OerHeks> BobbySteed, check the health of that NTFS partition, or filecheck ( prefferably from windows) [10:10] <robbix> Anybody know and prefer a dropbox alternative for linux? [10:10] <teikon> lotuspsychje, already tried it. The cursor size is only set within program windows. The huge size is still there in nautilus, desktop and some other native apps. [10:10] <BobbySteed> OerHeks, will do. I notice that 2 NTFS partitions will mount, 2 other ones won't. [10:11] <ehem> how can i move navigate between workspaces directly? [10:11] <lotuspsychje> teikon: not sure then sorry [10:11] <ehem> i want to bind a shortcut "Alt+3" to move to workspace3 for example [10:12] <EriC^^> ehem: wmctl [10:12] <EriC^^> !info wmctl [10:12] <ehem> !findo wmctl [10:12] <ehem> !info wmctl [10:12] <lotuspsychje> or ccsm? [10:13] <EriC^^> !find wmctl [10:13] <EriC^^> could have sworn it was called that [10:13] <fredrik> EriC^^: I did something stupid and now both my alt keys are useless. Must have done the opposite of what I intented to do. xev filled my terminal with lots of stuff so now I can't scroll back and see what the results were earlier when I used xev -- can I revert the changes somewhow? [10:13] <EriC^^> !info wmctl trusty [10:13] <Gregor3000> hello i need help with SSH i keep getitng the passphrase question: Authenticating with public key "imported-openssh-key" ; Passphrase for key "imported-openssh-key": [10:13] <Gregor3000> once i enter it it authenticates but when i exit and try to login again it asks for password again. [10:13] <Gregor3000> i am using putty and i imported the linux key hence the comment - "imported-openssh-key" [10:14] <ehem> nvm im dumb haha [10:15] <EriC^^> ehem: did you find it? [10:15] <EriC^^> i think it's wmctrl [10:15] <EriC^^> with an r [10:15] <ehem> yeah it worked! thanks [10:17] <EriC^^> fredrik: try setxkbmap -layout us [10:18] <fredrik> EriC^^: I don't have a us layout and previously followed other changes. Must I redo those changes? *sigh* [10:18] <EriC^^> fredrik: xmodmap isn't permanent [10:18] <fredrik> s/changes/steps [10:18] <EriC^^> if you log out and back in i think the changes will disappear [10:18] <fredrik> EriC^^: so a reboot should work? [10:18] <fredrik> let me try [10:19] <lotuspsychje> teikon: you could test 4k screen on another grafix card perhaps? [10:20] <lotuspsychje> teikon: maybe its our intel card acting like this? [10:22] <teikon> lotuspsychje, tested it on a radeon 7000M but it was not capable of achieving a high enough resolution. [10:23] <teikon> lotuspsychje, im pretty sure its an ubuntu issue. Probably som old backend shizzle. [10:23] <fredrik> EriC^^: It's back to working. Will you please have a look at the different xev outputs to help with the command? http://paste.ubuntu.com/11713229/ [10:24] <lotuspsychje> teikon: maybe ubuntu grabs a bigger cursor when res goes over a higher value? [10:24] <EriC^^> fredrik: xmodmap -e "keycode 64 = ISO_Level3_Shift" [10:25] <lotuspsychje> anyway bbl [10:26] <fredrik> EriC^^: I believe this is the same command I typed earlier. I tried it again now and I'm back to having two ALT keys that doesn't work [10:27] <EriC^^> fredrik: when you run xev and press alt what does it say? [10:28] <fredrik> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11713252/ [10:29] <fredrik> EriC^^: it now seems to return keycode 64 (rather than 92 as it used to) which is weird, because that is what the left alt key is [10:29] <EriC^^> fredrik: you want the right alt to do as the left or left to do as the right? [10:30] <EriC^^> you said the latter [10:30] <trollstation> Fredrik shut up [10:30] <fredrik> EriC^^: the left to do as the right [10:32] <EriC^^> ?fredrik: ok what's xev output for left alt [10:32] <fredrik> EriC^^: before I run the command, the right alt key works perfectly. After it stops working. I'm positive that the xev outputs corresponds to the correct buttons. Are we not just changing the left alt? [10:32] <fredrik> EriC^^: coming up [10:32] <jsnowball> hello! anyone knows a good tool to send/receive & analyse data to TCP sockets. I need something quite verbose [10:33] <trollstation> Jsnowball shut your mouth [10:33] <EriC^^> fredrik: yeah that should set Alt_L to what Alt_R is [10:33] <EriC^^> i just tried switching shift with home [10:33] <jsnowball> trollstation. ugh. [10:34] <fredrik> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11713276/ [10:35] <EriC^^> fredrik: it seems ok [10:35] <OerHeks> !coc | trollstation, behave yourself [10:36] <EriC^^> fredrik: it's really odd Alt_R suddenly stopped working too [10:36] <EriC^^> fredrik: try xmodmap -e "keycode 108=Alt_R" [10:37] <fredrik> EriC^^: It seems to me that Alt_R should not change at all with the initial command (yet it does) [10:37] <trollstation> Oerheks what is coc? [10:37] <EriC^^> fredrik: yeah, the keycode is the same though, it's still 108 [10:38] <EriC^^> it just says that it's also binded to keycode 64, which is correct [10:38] <fredrik> EriC^^: The last command did affect the right alt key but not to what it's supposed to be [10:38] <EriC^^> what's ISO_... anyways? [10:38] <BluesKaj> Howdy all [10:39] <trollstation> Howdy wtf? [10:40] <BluesKaj> trollstation, wtf nick :-) [10:40] <bazhang> trollstation, do you have an actual ubuntu support issue [10:40] <fredrik> EriC^^: But the right Alt key used to have the following property 'XKeysymtoKeycode returns keycode: 92' after running xmodmap on left alt key (keycode 64) now the xev output of the right alt key (108) says that 'XkeysymToKeycode returns keycode: 64' -- is that not strange? It seems that right alt key no longer does something it used to do (and I want it to not change behaviour at all) [10:40] <trollstation> Bahzang yep [10:40] <fredrik> EriC^^: in combination with 8 it make brackets and shift+8 it makes curly brackets [10:41] <fredrik> EriC^^: as per usual mac os x keyboard behaviour (at last a norwegian one) [10:42] <EriC^^> fredrik: i think that does a reverse on it [10:43] <EriC^^> the XKeysymToKeycode returns keycode: 64 [10:43] <EriC^^> let me try some stuff [10:45] <fredrik> EriC^^: Thanks. If not I'll try more later and ignore it for now. I just signed up for a computer science course and we're using this ubuntu mod in virtualbox,, it's just frustrating to learn new stuff when even the keyboard won't listen:/ [10:45] <fredrik> EriC^^: But settling with alwas just using the right alt key isn't the biggest drawback [10:45] <EriC^^> fredrik: yeah that's what it does [10:46] <EriC^^> it looks up which keysums have that keycode, when i set shift to home, xev on home has XKeysymToKeycode returns keycode: 50 [10:46] <EriC^^> which is shift's keycode [10:46] <EriC^^> fredrik: let me try setting another key to home and see what happens [10:46] <EriC^^> and if shift still works as home [10:47] <fredrik> EriC^^: ok. i'm assuming home works as before as well? [10:47] <EriC^^> yeah it does [10:47] <EriC^^> i set ctrl to it and now ctrl's keycode shows up in xev [10:47] <EriC^^> but they all work as home still [10:48] <fredrik> what bugs me the most is that running xmodmap on the left alt key somehow ends up upsetting the right alt key [10:48] <EriC^^> fredrik: i guess that was another key that's set as Alt_R [10:48] <fredrik> yeah [10:49] <fredrik> i by the way tried setting the left alt key to 'm' and it did not frustrate the right alt key [10:49] <fredrik> so i'm not sure if i keep confusing the two all the time when running xmodmap (even thoughi've done this 3 times now, keeping it in mind, and having you independently suggestion a command) [10:50] <EriC^^> fredrik: what did you say alt_r used to be instead of 64? [10:51] <fredrik> 92 [10:51] <EriC^^> xmodmap -pke shows that keycode 92 = ISO_Level3_Shift NoSymbol ISO_Level3_Shift [10:51] <EriC^^> that's kind of interesting i guess [10:52] <EriC^^> fredrik: what does xmodmap -pke say for you? [10:53] <fredrik> Same as for you (92 and 108 is identical). 64 says: Alt_L Meta_L Alt_L Meta_L [10:56] <fredrik> I tried setting both 64 and 108, at the same time, to both of those outputs [10:56] <fredrik> it ends up working in neither case [10:56] <EriC^^> fredrik: try to close the window then open it [10:56] <EriC^^> i tried setting shift to iso_level [10:56] <fredrik> which window? [10:56] <EriC^^> and it kept working as usual, then i set ctrl [10:57] <EriC^^> anyways when i closed the terminal it stopped working, and now it seems to be like shift, except it only works for the numbers to get *&() [10:57] <EriC^^> actually it isn't working in xchat, just in the terminal [10:58] <EriC^^> is it supposed to be like shift but only for the upper numbers? [10:59] <fredrik> EriC^^: i'm always testing in gedit in another window. the dummy i do is just setting either to a letter and it works immediately, so closing a window shouldn't make any difference [10:59] <EriC^^> fredrik: try testing in a terminal [10:59] <fredrik> EriC^^: no, shift gives a parenthesis, while alt gives a bracket [10:59] <EriC^^> for some reason it isn't working in xchat for me [10:59] <fredrik> EriC^^: works for 'm' in terminal as well. [11:00] <fredrik> i've spent two hours on this and must move on and accept a failure. I really appreciate the help, it's always astonishing how much good help one can get on IRC and elsewhere. Many thanks! [11:01] <EriC^^> i think i get what it does [11:01] <EriC^^> it's like pressing shift and control at the same time [11:01] <fredrik> very possible that that's the equivalent on a windows system [11:02] <EriC^^> ok, no problem [11:02] <Guest15964> Hello all. I have a bluetooth adapter that I am trying to connect to my ubuntu laptop. Pairing is successful, but after pairing the device appears in sound settings and disappears immediately. [11:04] <MonkeyDust> Guest15964 does the icon disappear, but the connection remains, or does the connection disappear? [11:05] <Guest15964> MonkeyDust The connection remains, but disappears from the output devices list in sound settings [11:06] <MonkeyDust> Guest15964 try blueman, you see it connected there? [11:06] <Guest15964> MonkeyDust Yes blueman shows connected [11:07] <MonkeyDust> Guest15964 then what's the issue exactly? [11:08] <Guest15964> MonkeyDust Oh sorry after sometime it gets disconnected. The issue is that I cannot stream music to a bluetooth audio adapter [11:08] <Guest15964> It pairs and connects and after a while it gets disconnected [11:08] <MonkeyDust> ok, that's different, unstable bluetooth, no clue... [11:09] <Guest15964> MonkeyDust, Oh ok [11:09] <Guest15964> MonkeyDust, Thanks [11:10] <harishkrupo> Guest15964, is it working in windows or any other kernels? [11:10] <Guest15964> harishkrupo, Yes it is working in windows [11:11] <harishkrupo> Guest15964, which kernel are you using? [11:11] <harishkrupo> version [11:12] <Guest15964> harishkrupo, 3.13.0-43-generic [11:12] <harishkrupo> Guest15964, `uname -r` [11:12] <Guest15964> harishkrupo, Thanks I just googled that :) [11:13] <harishkrupo> Guest15964, try using a latest stable kernel (compile your own kernel from kernel.org) and see if it works , bluetooth driver bugs generally get fixed [11:14] <harishkrupo> Guest15964, had the same issue with my bluetooth headphones [11:18] <Guest15964> harishkrupo, Thanks [11:25] <Losuto> hi [11:25] <Losuto> help [11:28] <Losuto> howi get [11:28] <Losuto> smell of pussy out of my dick! [11:29] <EriC^^> !info bleachbit [11:29] <austin4312> Hi! I would appreciate if you guys could help me out. Here is the problem I'm facing: [11:29] <austin4312> So I am trying to get the Vino VNC Server to startup on boot, meaning I don't have to login to have the VNC Server start. I am on Ubuntu GNOME 15.04, and I have already added "/usr/lib/vino/vino-server" to 'Startup Applications'. [11:29] <austin4312> However, the VNC Server still won't start as soon as I boot up. I have to login in order for the VNC Server to start. What should I do? Do I need to create a systemd unit file? If so, how do I do it? [11:30] <Ben64> don't use vino if you want to have vnc without logging in [11:30] <austin4312> Ben64 Why not? Is there a reason? [11:30] <harishkrupo> austin4312, here is one example on how to write systemd unit files http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/47695/how-to-write-startup-script-for-systemd [11:31] <Ben64> it shares :0 normally, which is the main screen, and since it's not active yet really.... [11:31] <MonkeyDust> !vnc [11:32] <austin4312> I tried to create a systemd unit file: http://i.imgur.com/G2aO5Ec.png [11:32] <ruben699> Hello [11:32] <austin4312> however, it gave me this error: "(gedit:2335): Gtk-WARNING **: Calling Inhibit failed: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files" when i tried to save it [11:33] <harishkrupo> austin4312, cant you just use automatic login so that vnc server automatically starts? [11:34] <austin4312> i dont want to because it leaves my system vulnerable for 30 seconds [11:34] <harishkrupo> 30 seconds? [11:34] <austin4312> harishkrupo btw do you known what's wrong with my systemd file? [11:35] <austin4312> harishkrupo from auto login to auto screen lock, the fastest is 30 seconds [11:35] <habbasi> austin4312: Add a script to init.d that starts it up. [11:35] <austin4312> habbasi I have no idea how to do that. Could you guide me? [11:35] <habbasi> austin4312: Be sure to add sudo -u /bin/bash if you want it to start up as another user. [11:36] <Ben64> austin4312: if someone has physical access to the computer, its already vulnerable [11:36] <habbasi> austin4312: Oh, just move whatever you put in .bashrc to a file in /etc/init.d [11:36] <harishkrupo> but does systemd support init.d [11:36] <austin4312> habbasi i have no idea what you mean by that... [11:37] <ikonia> systemd is a totally different init system [11:37] <Ben64> austin4312: or just use a different vnc server [11:37] <austin4312> Ben64 I need to stay on Vino [11:37] <Ben64> why [11:37] <austin4312> Too long to explain here [11:37] <Ben64> they all provide the same function, a remote desktop using the vnc protocol [11:39] <harishkrupo> ok what is the problem with the script? [11:39] <austin4312> it gave me this error: "(gedit:2335): Gtk-WARNING **: Calling Inhibit failed: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files" when i tried to save it [11:40] <ikonia> what do you mean what is the problem with it ? [11:40] <austin4312> ikonia i think he means why doesn't it work [11:40] <ikonia> perhaps more detail is required rather than "it doesn't work" [11:40] <harishkrupo> yeah [11:41] <narkman> sup [11:41] <austin4312> ikonia First, this is my script: http://i.imgur.com/G2aO5Ec.png [11:41] <austin4312> When I tried to save it, the terminal shows: "(gedit:2335): Gtk-WARNING **: Calling Inhibit failed: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files" [11:41] <bekks> austin4312: Thats not a script, but the content of a desktop file. [11:41] <austin4312> oh. im new to this. sorry [11:41] <bekks> austin4312: and a GTK-warning does not inhibit it from saving the file. [11:42] <ikonia> austin4312: have you actually wrote this - or have you just copied this from somewhere ? [11:42] <austin4312> copied and edited [11:42] <ikonia> austin4312: so talking to the people who wrote it seems the logical step [11:42] <austin4312> this is where i copied from: http://www.itzgeek.com/how-tos/linux/centos-how-tos/configure-vnc-server-on-centos-7-rhel-7.html [11:42] <harishkrupo> did you edit it in gedit? [11:42] <austin4312> harishkrupo [11:42] <austin4312> yes [11:42] <harishkrupo> ok then the problem is not with the script [11:42] <austin4312> the people did not wrote it for Ubuntu GNOME 15.04 [11:42] <harishkrupo> it is just a gedit warning [11:43] <ikonia> why is that script calling gedit [11:43] <ikonia> it has nothing to do with gedit [11:43] <harishkrupo> no he is editing it in gedit [11:43] <ikonia> then why are you showing me the gedit warning as a problem with this file ? [11:43] <harishkrupo> try opening gedit from terminal it will sometimes give that warning [11:43] <bekks> And since it is a warning, it can be safely ignored. [11:44] <ikonia> I'm still waiting to hear the problem [11:44] <harishkrupo> just save the file in /usr/lib/systemd/scripts/ [11:44] <ikonia> looks like a reasonably basic systemd unit [11:44] <bekks> You cannot save files as a regular user in that directory. [11:44] <bekks> You need to use gksu [11:44] <austin4312> harishkrupo so just save it there and everything will work? oh and is my content of that file correct? [11:44] <harishkrupo> and run systemctl enable "<name of script>" [11:45] <bekks> austin4312: you cannot save the file as a regular user there. [11:45] <austin4312> bekks sudo cp? [11:45] <harishkrupo> yeah [11:45] <bekks> austin4312: Yes. [11:45] <ikonia> what is the problem with the script? [11:45] <ikonia> you keep saying it doesn't work [11:45] <ikonia> could you define doesn't work [11:45] <jarnos> I wonder why `dlocate /usr/bin/text2wave` prints nothing even if `dpkg-query -S /usr/bin/text2wave` prints "festival: /usr/bin/text2wave"? [11:45] <bekks> ikonia: The problem was the unability to save a file in a non-user-writable directory. [11:46] <ikonia> ??? but it was flagged as "the script doesn't work" [11:46] <austin4312> first of all i saved it in /etc/systemd/system/vino-server.service [11:46] <bekks> austin4312: That directory isnt writable for users, too. [11:47] <austin4312> so per harishkrupo 's suggestion, i will now try to save it in /usr/lib/systemd/scripts/ [11:47] <austin4312> so wahat should I do now? I thought sudo cp would work? [11:47] <harishkrupo> oh sorry not there here /usr/lib/systemd/system/ [11:47] <bekks> Save it in your home directory, and use sudo cp [11:47] <harishkrupo> my bad [11:47] <harishkrupo> that location is for scripts not service files [11:48] <austin4312> lets slow down a little bit. [11:48] <austin4312> does my file: http://i.imgur.com/G2aO5Ec.png looks correct? [11:48] <austin4312> I used backticks and all, not sure if i should use quotes and such [11:50] <austin4312> harishkrupo btw /usr/lib/systemd/system/ does not exist, do you mean /etc/systemd/system ? [11:51] <harishkrupo> since you are passing the command as argument, dont use backticks [11:51] <austin4312> if so, i've tried systemctl start vino-server.service, and it dosent work [11:51] <austin4312> so what should i use? [11:51] <austin4312> I've tried ' and " but none of them work. [11:51] <harishkrupo> that is weird [11:51] <austin4312> Perhaps you can try to write them and put them in pastebin? [11:52] <harishkrupo> brb [11:52] <austin4312> brb too [11:59] <harishkrupo> austin4312, http://wiki.call-cc.org/spiffy-systemd-scripts here is a good example [12:01] <Reptilia> I am having problems with the hibernate / suspend options on my laptop. When i am on AC and i close the lid, the laptop won't hibernate but will just only turn off the screen. On the contrary, when i am on battery power, the laptop will suspend when i close the lid. In both cases i am getting the following message: "Power Manager - not authorized" accompanied with an icon with "Z z" written on it. Any ideas on how to fix this? Thanks in advance. [12:01] <Reptilia> This started happening after an update which i made approx. a week ago [12:02] <austin4312> back [12:03] <austin4312> harishkrupo I did have one myself, for Vino specifically. Probelm is, I don't know if the syntax is correct [12:03] <harishkrupo> austin4312, http://wiki.call-cc.org/spiffy-systemd-scripts here is a good example [12:03] <harishkrupo> ok [12:03] <austin4312> and whether or not it actually does its job [12:04] <harishkrupo> read that for a moment, till then i will try to find out why usr/lib/systemd doesnt exist [12:04] <austin4312> ok [12:05] <kunji> Is it lightweight/reasonable to run a bash script from cron every 10 seconds (script just handles a file processing queue)? This relates to Ubuntu because I'm asking about the performance in particular for the cron in Ubuntu 14.04, my impression is that this is fine, but maybe not? [12:06] <ikonia> kunji: thats up to you [12:07] <ikonia> you know how much resource your jobs take [12:07] <ikonia> cron in ubuntu is no different than cron on any other unix based platform [12:07] <kunji> ikonia: I suppose I'm asking what overhead is involved in cron generally then? [12:07] <ikonia> what overhead ? [12:07] <kunji> ikonia: That answers my question then ^_^ [12:07] <jrc> 1 [12:08] <harishkrupo> austin4312, no clue [12:08] <MonkeyDust> kunji with the 'watch' command you can monitor a processing queue every 10 seconds too, no need for cron [12:09] <kunji> MonkeyDust: Thanks, I'll check that out too. [12:09] <harishkrupo> austin4312, ok it is /lib/systemd/system [12:09] <austin4312> harishkrupo so there is where my file should be? [12:10] <harishkrupo> austin4312, is that directory there ? [12:10] <austin4312> harishkrupo yes [12:10] <danijel> Hi [12:10] <harishkrupo> austin4312, my problem is I use ubuntu 14.04 and i use systemd in my arch setup so i am not sure how ubuntu places its files [12:11] <austin4312> ah i see... [12:11] <harishkrupo> austin4312, k then just place it there and then try starting it [12:11] <austin4312> ok. trying it now [12:11] <harishkrupo> austin4312, not back tics [12:12] <austin4312> harishkrupo what should it be then? [12:12] <harishkrupo> austin4312, also the files must be owned by root(i read it somewhere dont know why) [12:13] <harishkrupo> austin4312, double quotes "" [12:13] <harishkrupo> austin4312, because they are auguemts to /bin/sh -c [12:13] <austin4312> harishkrupo for all three (execstartpre, execstart, and execstop)? [12:14] <harishkrupo> austin4312, yup [12:14] <austin4312> alright. trying now [12:15] <austin4312> harishkrupo it gave this in the terminal: "Gtk-WARNING **: Calling Inhibit failed: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files" when i tried to save it. should i proceed, or is there something wrong with my code? [12:16] <harishkrupo> austin4312, just save it in your home directory and then sudo cp it to the destination [12:16] <harishkrupo> austin4312, it is a warning, ignore [12:16] <austin4312> ok [12:17] <ikonia> austin4312: if basic file managment is out of your level of understanding, you are going to struggle to maintain systemd unit files [12:17] <austin4312> ikonia i don't plan to maintain it. I just need it to work past the initial setup [12:17] <ikonia> you are going to struggle then [12:18] <ikonia> if you don't understand the basics of file system permissions - this is going to fail for you [12:18] <austin4312> ikonia Do you have a better solution for me then? [12:18] <ikonia> austin4312: what is it you're actually trying to do/achieve ? [12:18] <austin4312> I need the Vino VNC server to start when I power the machine on, without logging in first [12:19] <ikonia> austin4312: why does it have to be vino [12:19] <ikonia> why not one of the ones that is shipped/packaged by ubuntu ? [12:19] <ikonia> that way you open the package manager, click install, done [12:19] <austin4312> Isn't vino preinstalled in ubuntu? [12:19] <ikonia> I don't know, is it? [12:19] <austin4312> the reason would be too long to explain here [12:19] <austin4312> vino is preinstalled [12:20] <ikonia> so why are you not using the supplied ubuntu init script ? [12:20] <ikonia> what's the problem with it ? [12:20] <austin4312> where can i find that? [12:20] <ikonia> there should be a systemd script supplied with it [12:21] <ikonia> before you do anything, is vnc starting up on it's own ? [12:21] <ikonia> or does the init script not do that ? [12:21] <austin4312> it does start up on its own [12:21] <austin4312> but I have to login into the machine after powering it on first [12:22] <ikonia> so that suggests to me it's not being launched from init, but from your desktop session [12:22] <austin4312> harishkrupo when I tried to do systemctl start vino-server.service, it gave me: "Failed to start vino-server.service: Unit vino-server.service failed to load: Invalid argument. See system logs and 'systemctl status vino-server.service' for details." [12:22] <austin4312> ikonia So what should I do? [12:23] <ikonia> austin4312: that error sugggests your script is wrong [12:23] <ikonia> it's trying to pass an argument that isn't supported/valid [12:23] <harishkrupo> austin4312, ok can you pastebin your script? [12:23] <austin4312> ok. doing it now. [12:23] <OerHeks> systemctl status vino [12:24] <austin4312> the status command gave me: http://i.imgur.com/F8Fjc5d.png [12:24] <ikonia> this is not designed for ubuntu [12:24] <ikonia> you're using a script designed for fedora [12:24] <ikonia> it would seem [12:24] <codepython777> is there any chance apple would sell its laptops without its OS? :) (i prefer ubuntu as well) - I've been reading reviews of xps 13 and x1 carbon, but seems like the mac laptops are better built. [12:25] <ikonia> codepython777: that is nothing to do with this channel [12:25] <austin4312> here is the script: http://pastebin.com/N69veuwC [12:25] <codepython777> ikonia: i was hoping someone has recently gotten ubuntu on the x1/carbon/mac [12:25] <ikonia> codepython777: why ? [12:25] <austin4312> ikonia yeah i copied it from a centos guide [12:25] <ikonia> austin4312: it's not going to work then [12:25] <austin4312> the guide: http://www.itzgeek.com/how-tos/linux/centos-how-tos/configure-vnc-server-on-centos-7-rhel-7.html [12:25] <austin4312> Someone in #ubuntu-gnome suggested it to me [12:26] <ikonia> remove the word [service] [12:26] <austin4312> he s/run/lead/ ubuntu gnome, according to him [12:26] <ikonia> remove network.target if you want a more agressive test [12:26] <ikonia> austin4312: if he's suggesting it - he should be able to support it/fix it in seconds [12:27] <austin4312> quote: "I barely have time to run Ubuntu GNOME atm " [12:27] <austin4312> " sorry but I do not have time to provide individual user support " [12:27] <austin4312> which is why im asking for help here [12:27] <ikonia> remove the word [service] [12:27] <ikonia> remove the network.target if you want an agressive test [12:28] <nico__> /budus macro setup [12:28] <austin4312> ikonia so like so? http://pastebin.com/sEprpR4K [12:28] <ikonia> yes [12:28] <YamakasY> will 32 bits package in 64bit ubuntu get issues ? [12:29] <ikonia> can do [12:29] <ikonia> depends how they are built [12:29] <harishkrupo> austin4312, i am writing the script [12:29] <austin4312> harishkrupo thanks [12:30] <austin4312> harishkrupo fyi in the script i provided, "b" is my username [12:30] <YamakasY> ikonia: ok I'm checking out https://launchpad.net/~stgraber/+archive/ubuntu/experimental/+build/7003236 [12:30] <austin4312> ikonia im trying it out now [12:31] <jrc> ubuntu is good [12:31] <austin4312> ikonia same error. [12:32] <harishkrupo> austin4312, is there a directory /lib/systemd/scripts [12:33] <austin4312> harishkrupo no [12:33] <harishkrupo> austin4312, /etc/systemd/scripts? [12:34] <harishkrupo> austin4312, or /usr/lib/systemd/scripts [12:34] <austin4312> no for /etc/systemd/scripts [12:34] <austin4312> no too for /usr/lib/systemd/scirpts [12:35] <harishkrupo> austin4312, now thats bad [12:35] <harishkrupo> austin4312, ok one sec [12:35] <austin4312> why so? [12:35] <austin4312> no prob [12:36] <harishkrupo> austin4312, what is you home folder? echo $HOME [12:36] <austin4312> harishkrupo /home/b [12:38] <YamakasY> any help with building a sssd package ? [12:39] <harishkrupo> austin4312, http://pastebin.com/4TXD8wsC [12:40] <harishkrupo> austin4312, this is the script to start the server [12:40] <harishkrupo> austin4312, place it in your home folder /home/b [12:40] <harishkrupo> austin4312, also make it executable [12:40] <austin4312> harishkrupo so do I have to explicitly call this script or does it run automatically on start up? [12:41] <harishkrupo> austin4312, oh name it vino-server [12:41] <austin4312> extension? [12:41] <harishkrupo> austin4312, one sec uploading the service file [12:41] <austin4312> ok [12:41] <austin4312> so basically name it vino-server.service? [12:42] <harishkrupo> austin4312, http://pastebin.com/rHc5L1vB [12:42] <harishkrupo> austin4312, no name this as vino-server.service [12:42] <harishkrupo> austin4312, the previous one will be vino-server only [12:42] <austin4312> ok. both of them in the home folder? [12:42] <harishkrupo> austin4312, the service file will go in the same place as the previous one [12:42] <jrc> oops [12:43] <harishkrupo> austin4312, no the service file in /lib/systemd/system [12:43] <austin4312> harishkrupo which one? [12:43] <austin4312> hold on im a little confused now. [12:43] <harishkrupo> austin4312, name the service file vino-server.service and place it in /lib/systemd/system [12:43] <austin4312> first, where do I save this one at: http://pastebin.com/4TXD8wsC [12:44] <harishkrupo> austin4312, that one will be at you home directory [12:44] <harishkrupo> austin4312, and make it executable [12:44] <harishkrupo> austin4312, finish that first [12:45] <austin4312> alright saved the one in /lib/systemd/system [12:45] <austin4312> how do i make it executable? whats the extension? [12:46] <harishkrupo> chmod o+x /home/b/vino-server [12:46] <harishkrupo> austin4312, oh there is a small change in the .service file [12:47] <austin4312> just did the chmod command [12:47] <austin4312> ok [12:48] <harishkrupo> austin4312, http://pastebin.com/vTmZ8x45 this is the edited service file [12:48] <harishkrupo> name this file vino-server.service and place it in /lib/systemd/system/ [12:50] <austin4312> harishkrupo alright just saved both of them. What's the next step? [12:50] <harishkrupo> try starting it ... [12:50] <harishkrupo> systemctl start vino-server [12:51] <austin4312> Failed to start vino-server.service: Unit vino-server.service failed to load: Invalid argument. See system logs and 'systemctl status vino-server.service' for details. [12:52] <harishkrupo> systemctl status vino-server.service [12:54] <ioria> this is for X11vnc , but maybe it can help : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC/Servers#Have_x11vnc_start_automatically_via_systemd_in_any_environment_.28Vivid.2B-.29 [12:54] <harishkrupo> austin4312, what is the output? [12:54] <austin4312> harishkrupo http://i.imgur.com/mwu0vwm.png [12:55] <austin4312> hmm... its refering to /etc/systemd/system [12:55] <OerHeks> sudo systemctl enable vino-server.service maybe? [12:56] <harishkrupo> austin4312, then place it there maybe [12:56] <austin4312> Created symlink from /etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/vino-server.service to /etc/systemd/system/vino-server.service. [12:56] <austin4312> is the output [12:57] <harishkrupo> austin4312, no wait first copy the service file to /etc/systemd/system/ [12:58] <harishkrupo> and try starting it, if it works then enable it [12:58] <austin4312> so: sudo cp /lib/systemd/system/ /etc/systemd/system/ ? [12:59] <harishkrupo> no [12:59] <harishkrupo> sudo cp /lib/systemd/system/vino-server.service /etc/systemd/system/ [13:00] <austin4312> oops [13:02] <wayne__> a [13:02] <harishkrupo> austin4312, after copying systemctl start vino-server [13:02] <austin4312> b@b-linux-server:~$ systemctl daemon-reload [13:02] <austin4312> b@b-linux-server:~$ systemctl start vino-server [13:02] <austin4312> Job for vino-server.service failed. See "systemctl status vino-server.service" and "journalctl -xe" for details. [13:02] <wayne__> hello [13:02] <harishkrupo> ok systemctl status vino-server.service [13:03] <austin4312> harishkrupo http://i.imgur.com/6RAV32k.png [13:03] <wayne__> what's this [13:04] <cfhowlett> !topic > wayne__, [13:04] <OerHeks> maybe vino-server needs sudo to start [13:04] <harishkrupo> austin4312, looks like -geometry is wrong does vino have that option? [13:05] <blacksoul> hi, I reinstalled an ubuntu based linux and on startup, it hangs a while loading "input: TPPS/2 IBM Trackpoint as /devices/............." # 2 days ago, it didn't take so long, that's why I reinstalled my system, cause I couldn't find out the reason... [13:05] <harishkrupo> OerHeks, systemd is running as root [13:05] <blacksoul> any idea, why it takes ~30 sec to load the trackpoint? [13:05] <blacksoul> or how to change it back to 1 sec? [13:05] <cfhowlett> blacksoul, you are using something not ubuntu. see your distro for support as it is not supported here. [13:05] <cfhowlett> !flavors | blacksoul these are the only supported ubuntu distros [13:06] <harishkrupo> austin4312, try removing the -geometry option from the vino-server file in you home folder [13:07] <harishkrupo> austin4312, the new line would be /sbin/runuser -l b -c "/usr/lib/vino/vino-server %i" [13:11] <austin4312> ok [13:11] <YamakasY> can anyone help me out building sssd from git ? [13:12] <harishkrupo> austin4312, try starting it again [13:12] <austin4312> b@b-linux-server:~$ systemctl start vino-server [13:12] <austin4312> Job for vino-server.service failed. See "systemctl status vino-server.service" and "journalctl -xe" for details. [13:13] <harishkrupo> systemctl status vino-server.service [13:13] <austin4312> hold on im getting the status [13:14] <austin4312> harishkrupohttp://i.imgur.com/W63tpCu.png [13:14] <austin4312> harishkrupo http://i.imgur.com/W63tpCu.png [13:15] <harishkrupo> austin4312, this is the problem of vino, which i have no idea( i dont use vino) [13:16] <harishkrupo> /sbin/runuser -l b -c "/usr/lib/vino/vino-server %i" try running this command from terminal [13:17] <austin4312> it gives a [13:17] <austin4312> > [13:17] <austin4312> and i think it prompts me to type something? [13:18] <Ben64> i don't have a /sbin/runuser [13:18] <Ben64> do you? [13:18] <MonkeyDust> austin4312 have you tried something different from vino? maybe it's easier to use and configure [13:18] <austin4312> i do [13:18] <austin4312> the "Type" is program [13:19] <harishkrupo> austin4312, just try /usr/lib/vino/vino-server %i [13:19] <austin4312> MonkeyDust i think i have to just give up on Vino already.... I've been trying for like 12 hours already... [13:19] <OerHeks> he wants to run vino at boot, as far as i understand [13:20] <austin4312> harishkrupo the output: [13:20] <austin4312> (vino-server:3463): EggSMClient-CRITICAL **: egg_sm_client_set_mode: assertion 'global_client == NULL || global_client_mode == EGG_SM_CLIENT_MODE_DISABLED' failed [13:20] <austin4312> ** Message: The desktop sharing service is already running, exiting. [13:20] <Ben64> austin4312: didn't i suggest giving up on vino quite a while ago [13:20] <harishkrupo> :P [13:20] <austin4312> actually, harishkrupo i think i should just give up on vino... [13:21] <austin4312> yeah. thats what im going to do now i guess... [13:21] <austin4312> hey harishkrupo, sincerely, from the bottom of my heart, thank you so much for your assistance :) [13:21] <harishkrupo> ok then but this time choose something that has the systemd service in it :P [13:21] <harishkrupo> austin4312, welcome [13:21] <unknown_user> Hello, there! How are you? [13:21] <austin4312> what are the options? [13:21] <harishkrupo> austin4312, btw vino is running [13:22] <flopshow> so what is up [13:22] <flopshow> I love Ubuntu [13:22] <flopshow> its free as in freedom [13:22] <austin4312> yeah... [13:22] <harishkrupo> tigervnc [13:22] <cfhowlett> flopshow, continue chitchat in #ubuntu-offtopic. this is the support channel. [13:22] <harishkrupo> then kill vino and try again maybe one last time [13:22] <austin4312> command to kill it? [13:23] <YamakasY> some pro's around ? [13:24] <harishkrupo> "/usr/lib/vino/vino-server -kill %i > /dev/null 2>&1 || :" [13:26] <austin4312> killed it [13:26] <austin4312> systemctl start vino-server ? [13:26] <harishkrupo> no [13:26] <harishkrupo> /sbin/runuser -l b -c "/usr/lib/vino/vino-server %i" try running this command from terminal [13:28] <austin4312> it gave me this: [13:28] <austin4312> > [13:28] <austin4312> thats all [13:30] <harishkrupo> press ctrl+c [13:30] <harishkrupo> and try this "/usr/lib/vino/vino-server %i" [13:31] <dearn> Hey guys, any way to make ubuntu boot a bit faster? It takes about 30 sec (from grub to login) on i7 cpu which feels bit long. I'm not sure which services in rcconf are safe to disable [13:32] <austin4312> (vino-server:3463): EggSMClient-CRITICAL **: egg_sm_client_set_mode: assertion 'global_client == NULL || global_client_mode == EGG_SM_CLIENT_MODE_DISABLED' failed [13:32] <austin4312> ** Message: The desktop sharing service is already running, exiting. [13:33] <austin4312> harishkrupo haha i think you and i are done with Vino already... [13:33] <harishkrupo> "/usr/lib/vino/vino-server -kill %i > /dev/null 2>&1 || :" && "/usr/lib/vino/vino-server %i" [13:33] <harishkrupo> yeah lol [13:34] <austin4312> gtg now. FUCK Vino, and Thank You So Much for Your help!!! :D [13:34] <harishkrupo> seriously i need to know why vino??? [13:35] <austin4312> haha I MAY need to do this on LOTS of machine, and installing another vnc server seems problematic to mic, but its mostly just my laziness :P [13:35] <austin4312> anywayss gtg now. bye! [13:35] <harishkrupo> ok bye :P [13:47] <DWSR> Hey all, I have installed Ubuntu Server 14.04 into a Hyper-V VM. I installed linux-virtual through apt but it is not being loaded by default and there is no grub menu to select which kernel I want. How do I remove all of the generic kernels from my system and force virtual? [13:48] <cfhowlett> DWSR, might want to ask #ubuntu-server [13:48] <DWSR> cfhowlett: Yeah, I'll recopy the question to there as well. Thanks. [13:49] <metalice> hi everyone, im new to ubuntu and linux in general. what is the best way to learn all the basic of linux? bought a few books on amazon, waiting for delivery. [13:50] <DWSR> metalice: Books will probably help. Youtube videos are also great. [13:50] <cfhowlett> metalice, 1. stop buying. SO MUCH free stuff e.g. www.fullcirclemagazine.org [13:50] <Johnny_Linux> read read play read [13:51] <cfhowlett> metalice, also, narrow your focus. "learn linux"? that could take LIBRARIES. choose a narrow band to start with [13:51] <badbodh> metalice, a click here and a clickity there, voila you are a linux user [13:52] <badbodh> Johnny_Linux, it should be: play play bork read fix play [13:52] <Johnny_Linux> exactly [13:52] <badbodh> read read..pffft! [13:53] <cfhowlett> Linux From Scratch to get really dirty ... [13:53] <badbodh> too much dirt. no need to scare a new guy [13:53] <cfhowlett> :) [13:53] <Johnny_Linux> ive been doing linux 10 yrs now, back in 04 my 2kpro machine broke, so i took the plunge and never looked back. [13:54] <metalice> thank for the comments, im already a ubnutu user, for 4 months or so.. i have a B.Sc in CS so im not new to linux so much, but i would like to know more, i dont have a special idea of direction in linux i want to focus on, yet. i need to learn all the basic staring how linux ticks in depth and shell scripting, etc... [13:54] <DWSR> metalice: You should really pick an area and focus on it. [13:55] <Johnny_Linux> na [13:55] <DWSR> If you want to learn about the inner workings of the Kernel, then go that route. [13:55] <cfhowlett> metalice, then I reiterate: Linux From Scratch will teach you how to build your very own linux distro ... [13:55] <Johnny_Linux> just pick ubuntu, play with it, come here, learn [13:58] <Johnny_Linux> there is about a dozen or so folks in here that know their stuff and will be glad to help. [13:59] <DWSR> That's kind of insulting to the other ~1k users that are in here. :P [13:59] <Johnny_Linux> only if you have a small mind [13:59] <badbodh> 500+ are actually bots johnny [13:59] <Johnny_Linux> prolly [13:59] <bgc> hi friends i have two partitions on my ubuntu desktop one of system ( / ) the other one my data mounted in ( /media/data) but i cant see my files while i want to open it says you dont have permission to see please help im new on ubuntu [14:00] <metalice> thanks guys! :) [14:00] <badbodh> bgc, type "lsblk" in terminal and share on paste [14:01] <bgc> badbodh, sda 8:0 0 698,7G 0 disk [14:01] <bgc> ├─sda1 8:1 0 350M 0 part [SWAP] [14:01] <bgc> ├─sda2 8:2 0 248,8G 0 part / [14:01] <bgc> └─sda3 8:3 0 449,5G 0 part /media/data [14:01] <bgc> sr0 11:0 1 1024M 0 rom [14:01] <badbodh> don't flood here, paste on some pastebin and give us the link [14:02] <MonkeyDust> bgc use this http://paste.ubuntu.com/ [14:02] <Johnny_Linux> !pastbinit [14:02] <badbodh> paste.ubuntu.com is it? [14:02] <bgc> im sorry im new [14:02] <Johnny_Linux> !pastbinit | bgc [14:02] <badbodh> ok [14:02] <badbodh> np [14:02] <metalice> what is the IRC app that your are using on ubuntu? [14:03] <DWSR> bgc: It's considerd good ettiquette to paste something longer than 2 lines to something like a pastebin (http://paste.ubuntu.com) and then post a link to the paste here. This helps keep the amount of text in the channel down [14:03] <astroboy> i'll ask about 'scrot' command, How to specify width of output image?? [14:03] <badbodh> bgc, go to /etc folder, open file 'fstab' and paste its contents on pastebin [14:03] <badbodh> share link [14:03] <bgc> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11714249/ [14:04] <badbodh> bgc, ^^ fstab too [14:04] <bgc> im so sorry friend [14:05] <bgc> badbodh, folder is empty [14:05] <badbodh> Johnny_Linux, any list of all the !commands you folks use ? [14:06] <zhongfu> metalice: I used to use xchat but now I use quassel because of quasselcore and quasseldroid [14:06] <Johnny_Linux> i plead the 5th [14:06] <badbodh> bgc, /etc/fstab file, it is a text file [14:06] <DWSR> Quassel <3 [14:06] <badbodh> can't be empty [14:07] <metalice> zhongfu: thanks ill try it. is there a way at quassel to change setting or filter chats so it wont show all the incoming and outgoing users and only show content of conversations? [14:07] <bgc> badbodh, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11714272/ [14:07] <badbodh> Johnny_Linux, just the ones for info. like the pastebin thingy you gave right now. i've seen folks using them for generic info [14:07] <DWSR> bgc: sudo cat /etc/fstab <-- run this in a terminal and paste the output [14:07] <Johnny_Linux> they are built in the bot, i dont have a written list per say [14:08] <DWSR> bgc: nevermind, that works too [14:08] <zhongfu> metalice: I can't find one in quasselclient, but there might be something like that in xchat [14:08] <zhongfu> metalice: oh wait, nix that, I found it [14:08] <jrc> 3 [14:08] <bgc> DWSR, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11714272/ [14:08] <metalice> zhongfu: gr8 thanks man [14:09] <zhongfu> metalice: you can hide joins/parts/quits/nick changes/mode changes/topic changes and more [14:09] <badbodh> fstab seems to be in order, although i never use 'defaults' for data partition [14:09] <badbodh> bgc, what exact error message did you get ? [14:10] <bgc> badbodh, "BGC" içeriklerini görmek için yeterli yetkiniz yok. it is türkçe [14:11] <Inoki> Hi all. How do I list all "libreoffice" packages currently installed? What's the command? (similar to what you'd do in Synaptic by typing in the search field "libreoffice" and then sorting according to what's installed) [14:11] <metallico> hi guys, my ubuntu VM stopped working and now it hands on boot screen. Here is my syslog: http://pastebin.com/Gvtv8k0t [14:11] <cfhowlett> Inoki, dpkg -l | grep libreoffice [14:11] <metallico> it hangs* [14:11] <zhongfu> Inoki: you can try using "sudo dpkg -L | grep libreoffice" i think [14:11] <badbodh> bgc, if you know how to edit that file with root access, you may change "/media/data" to "/mnt/data" instead. /media for removable drives, /mnt for internal hdd [14:11] <zhongfu> whoops, -l (lowercase) not uppercase [14:11] <cfhowlett> zhongfu, no sudo needed. don't sudo if you don't need sudo [14:12] <zhongfu> cfhowlett: ah I see, thanks [14:12] <Inoki> Oh, nice, thanks! And making it as output to a file I can use dpkg -l | grep libreoffice > libreoffice.txt? [14:12] <badbodh> bgc, if you want to mount something in /media, it needs to be in /media/<username>/data not /media/data [14:12] <badbodh> else only root will be able to use it [14:13] <zhongfu> Inoki: yep [14:13] <Inoki> zhongfu, cfhowlett, thanks again! [14:13] <cfhowlett> Inoki, happy2help! [14:15] <bgc> badbodh, how can i change mnt from media [14:15] <drmagoo> Hey, anyone here any good with conky. I'm trying to modify this conkyrc http://paste.ubuntu.com/11714244/, to only display time and date and it does that now. But the bottom half of the "window" is filled with empty space, anyone have a suggestion on how to remove that empty space and make the window smaller? [14:16] <kunji> drmagoo: set the maximum_height? [14:17] <badbodh> bgc, first open terminal and type "sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab-copy" [14:17] <Inoki> Also, can you guys recommend a database with all commands that has a search? - in case I need to look up information about a command. Or you recommend simply using man <command>? [14:17] <badbodh> always backup your system file before changing [14:18] <bgc> badbodh, ok [14:18] <kunji> Inoki: The database commands mostly conform to SQL and the documentation for each one will cover the cases where it does something unusual. [14:18] <badbodh> bgc, then "gksu gedit" to open editor, drag-n-drop fstab file on it [14:19] <drmagoo> kunji: tried that, conky ignores it / doesnt make any diffrence [14:19] <kunji> Inoki: For instance, MySQL Docs: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/ [14:20] <bgc> badbodh, then [14:20] <Inoki> kunji: thank you, but I was more aiming towards a site with all the terminal commands and their explanations :) Perhaps I should've rephrased my Q properly, my bad. [14:20] <kunji> Inoki: But you don't use terminal commands for your database... [14:20] <badbodh> bgc, now look for the line "UUID=4fb6cdca-5642-4684-8a63-42a7f5e9ed1d /media/data ext4 defaults 0 2" [14:20] <badbodh> line 11 in your pastebin link [14:21] <badbodh> change "/media/data" to "/mnt/data" [14:21] <kunji> Inoki: Aside from SQL itself that is... which is what I linked to for the implementation of MySQL. [14:21] <Inoki> kunji: nono, I don't need help with a particular database. I was looking for a database (a site of some kind), that contains explanation of every linux terminal commands. [14:21] <cfhowlett> Inoki, man man for starters [14:21] <bgc> badbodh, then [14:22] <badbodh> save and reboot, see if you can access [14:22] <badbodh> if not then i may have one more suggestion, but that's later [14:22] <Inoki> cfhowlett, kunji: I want to become proficient in using the terminal ;) So just man man, I'll start with that then, thank you. [14:23] <bgc> badbodh, thanx a lot bro now i will reboot :D [14:23] <badbodh> bgc, before rebooting share fstab on pastebin just to check [14:23] <kunji> Inoki: Ohhh, gotcha. The man pages cover a lot but they can be a bit cryptic. I just search online when I encounter a new command. It's not a database, but the nixcraft site is really good http://www.cyberciti.biz/ [14:24] <kunji> drmagoo: Is what is displayed just a few lines? [14:24] <bgc> badbodh, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11714383/ [14:24] <Inoki> Also, I've found this http://linuxcommand.org/lc3_learning_the_shell.php, but it doesn't contain a search field. And nice, now I got another one. Thanks kunji! [14:24] <bunty> #ubuntu-touch [14:25] <badbodh> bgc, ok reboot. i hope you were careful while editing, accidentally altering the UUID's will cost you :D [14:26] <cfhowlett> !touch | bunty [14:26] <badbodh> !pastebinit | badbodh [14:26] <drmagoo> kunji: I haven't been able to figure out what causes that empty space. [14:26] <kunji> drmagoo: Nvm, it's x then y right, I was thinking for a second that 150 was your min height there... [14:27] <bgc> badbodh, :D thnx again i hope i wont smell burning hdd :D [14:27] <kunji> drmagoo: Sorry, it's been too long since I played with Conky, hopefully someone else knows. [14:27] <badbodh> it won't burn, explode perhaps [14:27] <badbodh> now shoo reboot [14:27] <bgc> badbodh, :D [14:27] <Johnny_Linux> youve got to be from the U.K [14:28] <drmagoo> kunji: thank you anyway =) [14:31] <badbodh> !stupidity | badbodh [14:31] <bgc> badbodh, file location changed but again i cant see my files permission error [14:32] <bgc> how can i login as a root [14:32] <badbodh> bgc, could you change your system language to english and show me the error message [14:32] <cfhowlett> !root | bgc [14:32] <badbodh> no no, you shall not root [14:33] <kunji> He can sudo su... though I wouldn't recommend doing so too much. [14:33] <badbodh> bgc, forget about root, that isn't the right way. for now just change language and show me error mssg [14:34] <bgc> i dont understand what u mean with root i used before kali linux and i was login with root and i can reach everything [14:34] <badbodh> in ubuntu/debian systems you don't login as root [14:34] <badbodh> use sudo for a root command, or sudo -s for root shell. perios [14:34] <badbodh> *period. [14:34] <zykotick9> badbodh: well, in ubuntu systems... debian is different [14:35] <bgc> badbodh, i will reboot and come again [14:36] <badbodh> zykotick9, how? they don't allow logging in as root either, from login managers that is (gdm/lightdm...) [14:36] <badbodh> once upon a time they did [14:36] <zykotick9> badbodh: that's a DM issue. Debian prompts for root password during install. [14:37] <badbodh> pfft! you can set root pass in ubuntu too [14:37] <badbodh> open root shell with sudo -s and type 'passwd' [14:37] <codepython777> i've a bunch of ubuntu boxes that i want to keep synced in terms of apt-get installs. How can i do this? [14:37] <kunji> Of course you can, it doesn't mean you should [14:38] <metalice_> thanks for the offer for quassel, works great :) [14:38] <bgc> badbodh, error message is "This location could not be displayed You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of “BGC”. [14:38] <kunji> codepython777: Figure out your syncing scheme and write a script for them to communicate that to each other over headless ssh. [14:38] <badbodh> ok bgc . same drill, open fstab and edit. [14:39] <kunji> bgc: Those ones are obnoxious, I usually sudo su to access them, but if it's a script you can just run it with sudo. Better though is if you run it as the proper owner of the folder. [14:40] <zykotick9> kunji: "sudo su" is bad form. "sudo -i" if you _need_ (you don't) a root terminal. [14:40] <badbodh> kunji, srsly stop this root-ism, this ain't proper :/ [14:41] <Johnny_Linux> there are several ways to root, not recommended [14:41] <kunji> Thanks zyko, I've been using sudo su because I couldn't remember the other way, remind me of the difference though. [14:41] <bgc> badbodh, what will i do now [14:42] <metalice_> zykotick9: whats the different between sudo su and sudo -i ? [14:42] <badbodh> bgc, open terminal and type "id" and enter. what is your uid= ? [14:43] <badbodh> usually it is 1000 [14:43] <zykotick9> kunji: "sudo su" is gonna have a messed up environment... it's using 2 different systems to elevate privs... [14:43] <kunji> badbodh: I'm not trying to promote doing things as root, it was my "hack" to access a www-data owned folder. I'm not sure why you can't sudo www-data and access it... [14:43] <zykotick9> kunji: sidenote, you can use TAB in most clients to autocomplete nicknames in IRC [14:44] <astroboy> How to specify width of output image using 'scrot' command?? [14:44] <kunji> zykotick9: nice ^_^ [14:44] <bgc> badbodh, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11714481/ [14:44] <badbodh> bad dog, bad dog kunji :/ don't teach it to others atleast [14:44] <huig> hello, i am on ubuntu 14.04 and wanna upgrade to ubuntu 15.xx. do i need to backup my files?how can i upgrade it without downloading the .iso? [14:44] <kunji> badbodh: ok, np, but what is the proper way to access such a folder? [14:44] <badbodh> bgc, replace "defaults" in that same line with "rw,auto,noexec,uid=1000" [14:45] <kunji> I would like to do it the right way [14:45] <badbodh> bgc, i am assuming you have only single-user system [14:45] <cfhowlett> huig, yes you backup. you need to use the eolupgrade option. [14:45] <cfhowlett> !eolupgrade | huig [14:46] <huig> cfhowlett, but backing up is for 'just in case', or because i will really need to get my files back [14:46] <bgc> badbodh, yes i m single user i dont have girlfriend :D [14:46] <badbodh> kunji, proper gentleman's way is to chown and chmod [14:46] <bgc> badbodh, i editted [14:47] <badbodh> bgc, multi users need gid=1000 instead of uid=1000, that's why. your gf is irrelevant :D [14:47] <kunji> badbodh: Err, every time you need to change something in it? Because the web server is the proper owner of that folder and it should not be my user's. [14:47] <badbodh> ok save and reboot bgc [14:47] <badbodh> again, share the paste once [14:47] <bgc> badbodh, :D i cant save [14:48] <badbodh> bgc, didn't you "gksu gedit"? yougotta remember the steps :/ [14:48] <cfhowlett> huig, just for fun, assume you files get lost and that you were too ... lazy ... to do a proper backup. imagine you come back to this channel to explain the dire situation. imagine the complete lack of sympathy that you'll get in the face of your self-inflicted damage by rejecting the advice that is ALWAYS given: thou shall backup [14:48] <Johnny_Linux> lol [14:48] <bgc> badbodh, im sorry [14:49] <kunji> !recovery [14:49] <kunji> Hmm, not the recovery I was looking for [14:49] <badbodh> for cli apps : sudo <command>, for gui apps : gksu <command> write down [14:50] <badbodh> kunji, everytime? pfft. once you go chmod you never go back [14:50] <kunji> badbodh: But my user is not supposed to own that folder [14:50] <badbodh> then just chmod, don't chown [14:51] <kunji> badbodh: The permissions should not be any more relaxed [14:51] <badbodh> well ok. you are oppressive :P [14:52] <huig> cfhowlett, haha i understand it, i am doing the back up. the question was just for knowking if they upgrade would remove my files or not [14:52] <cfhowlett> huig, no but mistakes happen. for instance, accidentally formatting /home WOULD wipe the files [14:52] <kunji> badbodh: Hmm, well, case by case, but I really think this set should be oppressed as the data may be sensitive. [14:53] <huig> cfhowlett, the upgrade won't automatically install ubuntu on the partition i already have for ubuntu or do i have to specify it this time too? [14:53] <cfhowlett> huig, an upgrade *should* use the existing partitions [14:54] <conorMcGregor9> is keys.gnupg.net offline? [14:54] <huig> cfhowlett, that is what i also expect. did not happen when i upgraded mac osx [14:54] <badbodh> bgc, lost in the woods ? [14:54] <kunji> My last few upgrades have been mostly problem free, hopefully yours as well huig. They do take longer than a fresh install though :/ [14:55] <huig> kunji, well i also hope that. my last upgrade just destroyed the other partitions and removed my files [14:56] <bgc> badbodh, ok im ready to reboot [14:56] <badbodh> tatatat, share pastebin first [14:56] <conorMcGregor9> is it possible to move the side panel? [14:56] <bgc> badbodh, do u want to check anything [14:57] <badbodh> yes bgc [14:58] <xangua> conorMcGregor9: if you mean unity launcher, no [14:58] <bgc> badbodh, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11714533/ [14:58] <badbodh> ok, pray and reboot [14:59] <bgc> badbodh, :D:D [15:03] <trollstation> Ubuntu is fucking wank hahaha jokers [15:03] <badbodh> kick in 3...2...1... [15:03] <trollstation> No [15:03] <badbodh> :/ double standards [15:06] <badbodh> bgc, still no luck ? [15:07] <bgc> badbodh, http://imgim.com/img_20150614_180101.jpg [15:07] <bgc> badbodh, laptop is burning :D [15:07] <badbodh> woops, recovery mode then. [15:07] <badbodh> time for the nuke option [15:07] <badbodh> M [15:09] <bgc> badbodh, recovery ? how can i recovery [15:09] <badbodh> bgc, press M like it says [15:10] <bgc> badbodh, i pressed s :( [15:10] <badbodh> no problem [15:10] <badbodh> will take longer, that's all [15:10] <bgc> ok i will try now [15:11] <badbodh> open terminal , "sudo mv /etc/fstab-copy /etc/fstab" this will restore your original fstab [15:11] <badbodh> BGL, ^ [15:11] <badbodh> OH HE'S GONE [15:13] <al2o3-cr> can anyone tell me what version of LUA comes with 15.04? [15:13] <InterNIC> badbodh: What have you done? [15:14] <badbodh> looks like he will go to recovery all by himself [15:14] <jbnlosh> my laptop randomly drops wifi connection , and then it needs 2-3 minutes to reconnect [15:15] <badbodh> InterNIC, he'll be back :D [15:15] <jbnlosh> its really annoying [15:16] <InterNIC> jbnlosh: have you tried disabling the wifi, then re-enabling it? Sometimes that works to settle it down. [15:17] <jbnlosh> yeah i did , doesnt help [15:18] <InterNIC> Broadcom I guess? [15:19] <racar> InterNIC, jbnlosh i have a Broadcom and some stability issue. Didn'T find any solution but for now if i have 2 network adapter, it looks like the first one is stable but the second one not, so at least, i always have one working. [15:20] <jbnlosh> nope im not using broadcom , whatever that is :D [15:21] <ikonia> how do you know you're not using it if you don't know what it is [15:24] <QwertyDragon> al2o3-cr on my Lubuntu 15.04 these are available:The program 'lua' can be found in the following packages: * lua5.1 * lua5.2 * lua50 [15:25] <al2o3-cr> QwertyDragon: thanks, that what i needed to know :) [15:26] <jbnlosh> ikonia guess i would be atleast know something abut it if its on my computer [15:27] <ikonia> jbnlosh: no you wouldn't [15:27] <ikonia> hence why "I don't know what that is" [15:28] <ikonia> it seems stupid to say you are / are not using something when you don't even know what it is [15:29] <jbnlosh> well what is it , and how can i check am i using it then? [15:30] <ikonia> it's a chipset of your network card [15:30] <ablest1980> anyone get unity update? [15:30] <ikonia> what update ? [15:30] <ikonia> ablest1980: why don't you state your real question, as people will be doing different things on different versions [15:30] <ablest1980> nvm [15:31] <MonkeyDust> jbnlosh paste this in a terminal... paste the outcome here gbachot@ubuntu-laptop:~$ lspci -vvnn | grep -A 9 Network | grep controller [15:31] <MonkeyDust> oops [15:31] <MonkeyDust> this: lspci -vvnn | grep -A 9 Network | grep controller [15:33] <jbnlosh> MonkeyDust: 02:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8723BE PCIe Wireless Network Adapter [10ec:b723] [15:37] <mekhami> any weechat users? I'm getting really strange behavior on weechat (compared to very simple from os x) [15:38] <jbnlosh> im on webchat , nothing strange [15:41] <jak2000> hi all [15:41] <darthanubis> hi [15:41] <JonnyClox> *facerubs* All of a sudden my system decided it was going to boot 1400x1050 instead of 1920x1080 for no reason and not give me the option to change. Any ideas why? Running KDE. [15:41] <jak2000> how to disable, my server sleep, i dont want the server sleep, tahnks [15:41] <JonnyClox> Hi there. [15:43] <mekhami> jbnlosh: not webchat, weechat =P [15:43] <Kmor> Hi. If I browse the internet and send requests to webservers - the answers from the webservers reach my system although I don't have an open port. Which program is managing this? [15:44] <maziar> when i want to install application from source on ubuntu i get this error : http://pastebin.com/Pnndva1Y ,,,, can any body please help me ? [15:44] <alumno__> hola [15:44] <TJ-> Kmor: You're incorrect. Your system opens a socket and makes a continuous connection to the server's listening port until your system decides it doesn't need to ask for more data. [15:45] <Kmor> TJ-: But which program does this connection tracking by default? [15:45] <maziar> when i want to install application from source on ubuntu i get this error : http://pastebin.com/Pnndva1Y ,,,, can any body please help me ? [15:46] <chebit> hola [15:46] <TJ-> Kmor: The web browser opens a local socket on an ephemeral port number (a 'random' port) and makes an outgoing connection to the HTTP server's port 80. Once the connection is established the web browser sends Requests and the serve sends Responses. [15:46] <jak2000> chebit any advice? [15:47] <chebit> :) let me read the question [15:48] <Kmor> TJ-: Yes, I know how it works. What I mean: Which module/program/process is handle this? [15:48] <chebit> lazy server .) [15:49] <chebit> http://askubuntu.com/questions/47311/how-do-i-disable-my-system-from-going-to-sleep [15:49] <chebit> the server is like the owner, lol [15:49] <TJ-> Kmor: The web browser! [15:50] <BuzzardBuzz> chebit -> lol [15:50] <maziar> when i want to install application from source on ubuntu i get this error : http://pastebin.com/Pnndva1Y ,,,, can any body please help me ? [15:51] <BuzzardBuzz> install app from repo might work better [15:51] <timbozeman> wow, htpc in ubuntu is hard. Can't seem to get a decent resolution. Most of the solutions on google say to use modelines or xrandr, but none seem to be respected by nvidia [15:51] <TJ-> maziar: Is there something wrong with the version of nginx in the Ubuntu archive? [15:52] <ltk> how to don't display the "Quit:xxx xxx" messages? [15:52] <maziar> TJ-, i want to compile it frome source , for openresty [15:52] <SchrodingersScat> ltk: depends on your irc client, can search for removing join/parts [15:53] <TJ-> maziar: Then you need to ask the nginx developers if the build fails; your pastebin suggests a problem in the nginx build script [15:53] <jak2000> friends, pls how to disable, my server sleep, i dont want the server sleep, tahnks [15:53] <maziar> TJ-, its not nginx problem its ubuntu problem , if you dont know the solution please let other person answer [15:54] <BuzzardBuzz> jak2000 your solution was already posted by chebit, did you not read it? [15:54] <TJ-> timbozeman: if you need to manually specify modelines that indicates the monitor is not providing EDID data to the system, or incorrect EDID. Is that the issue you're facing? [15:54] <jak2000> BuzzardBuzz yes but isnt correct [15:54] <BuzzardBuzz> the faq is wrong? [15:55] <mekhami> in gnome-terminal, with weechat, it seems gnome-terminals keybindings are overriding the ones that i should have in weechat. is there a way to let the terminal application keybindings override gnome-terminals? [15:55] <TJ-> maziar: I'm an Ubuntu developer and I've read your pastebin. I know what I'm talking about. Your problem is "Makefile:932: recipe for target 'Makefile' failed" [15:55] <jak2000> BuzzardBuzz: <chebit> the server is like the owner, lol [15:55] <Kmor> TJ-: But UDP for example is stateless. So, is netfilter doing connection tracking? [15:55] <maziar> TJ-, then pkease let some one who no the answer , answer me [15:55] <timbozeman> TJ-: I think so. 1080i was the setting I used in windows, but that doesn't seem available. 1920x1080 has overscan [15:56] <TJ-> maziar: My point is, your issue is not an Ubuntu support issue, it is nginx specific. [15:56] <TJ-> timbozeman: Are you using the nvidia proprietary driver? What does "xrandr -q" report (can you pastebin it) ? [15:56] <maziar> TJ-, no i dont accept your oponion [15:56] <maziar> when i want to install application from source on ubuntu i get this error : http://pastebin.com/Pnndva1Y ,,,, can any body please help me ? [15:57] <ikonia> maziar: he is correct [15:57] <ikonia> maziar: you are custom building software - the build is not happening [15:57] <ikonia> debug the build [15:57] <TJ-> ikonia: Thanks :) [15:57] <ehem> hey guys I dont know if you can help me, I'm using Mint but their IRC channel seems to be very spacious. [15:58] <ehem> when i move to a new workspace I want to see the name of it, currently its only doing that when i navigate using "Ctrl+Alt+Arrows", and not "Alt+[number]" which i set in the keyboard -> shortcuts settings [15:58] <ikonia> ehem: please take it to the mint channel [15:58] <TJ-> jak2000: Is there anything in the server's logs to indicate why it is going to sleep? I'd check '/var/log/auth.log" for commands being issued, "/var/log/kern.log" and "/var/log/syslog" - look at the reports timestamped just before the server goes to sleep, you might find some clues. [15:59] <ehem> ikonia: i couldnt get an answer from there. [15:59] <ikonia> ehem: then wait for an answer in there [15:59] <c0mbra1n> hai [15:59] <jak2000> ok TJ- thanks i checked [15:59] <jak2000> i check and return [15:59] <ehem> ikonia: how long? [16:00] <ikonia> ehem: as long as it take [16:00] <ikonia> we don't support mint here [16:00] <ehem> ikonia: what if no one answers, can i ask here then? [16:00] <ikonia> no [16:00] * TJ- books a table at The Restaurant at the End of the Universe, just for ehem :) [16:00] <ikonia> mint is NOT supported here [16:00] <ehem> ikonia:why not? [16:01] <ikonia> ehem: because this is ubuntu support [16:01] <timbozeman> TJ-: I tried the proprietary driver for a day or so then switched to a current open source version. Here's the xrandr -q output http://pastebin.com/4McLkyD9 [16:02] <TJ-> timbozeman: so this pastebin result is obtained whilst using nouveau? [16:03] <BuzzardBuzz> i would guess that you can get good mint support in the PCLOS channel for your question ehem [16:03] <BuzzardBuzz> texstar would help you [16:04] <timbozeman> TJ-: that pastebin is with nvidia binary driver 346.72 (open source) [16:04] <TJ-> timbozeman: That output suggests the monitor should be able to select 1920x1080@60Hz, but it does have an option for @24Hz ... is that your problem, it only selects @24Hz if you select 1920x1080 ? [16:05] <ehem> BuzzardBuzz: wel there are only 8 people in there but I asked anyway. [16:05] <TJ-> timbozeman: Oh, OK. I'd hope nouveau would show the same; shouldn't make a difference [16:06] <timbozeman> TJ-: correct. I get a black screen selecting 1920x1080@60hz thorugh the nvidia-settings UI and 24hz looks bad. Selecting 1920x1080 @ 60.1 with xrandr seems to work, but doesn't stick and has overscan [16:06] <maziar> ikonia, can you help me about this problem ? [16:07] <timbozeman> TJ-: I got it to look right with 1280x720 and some viewport settings in xorg.conf, but it was laggy video so that's probably not right either [16:07] <TJ-> timbozeman: That suggests a problem with the monitor mis-reporting EDID... can you pastebin the "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" which might show us any mode-reporting issues [16:07] <IP92> where can I set the default profile for my terminal? [16:08] <bgc> badbodh, i came [16:08] <reisio> IP92: profile? [16:08] <badbodh> bgc, you're alive! [16:08] <IP92> reisio, yes, when right clicking inside terminal, there's the profiles [16:08] <TJ-> timbozeman: Is the monitor connected on a pure HDMI interface all the way, or is it HDMI to DVI-D or HDMI to DisplayPort? [16:08] <bgc> badbodh, yes [16:08] <IP92> I've got the default and one another, how can I make the other one default? [16:08] <timbozeman> TJ-: HDMI all the way [16:08] <bgc> in recovery there is no change [16:08] <conorMcGregor9> i have an application i downloaded, it just sits in a folder, i usually run with ./filename, is it possible to add this app to the launcher? [16:09] <TJ-> timbozeman: OK, let's look at that Xorg.0.log thewn [16:09] <reisio> IP92: for gnome-terminal? [16:09] <IP92> reisio, yes [16:09] <BuzzardBuzz> xrandr --newmode "1920x1080" 173.00 1920 2048 2248 2576 1080 1083 1088 1120 -hsync +vsync [16:09] <BuzzardBuzz> xrandr --addmode Virtual1 1920x1080 [16:09] <BuzzardBuzz> xrandr --output Virtual1 --mode 1920x1080 [16:09] <badbodh> bgc, no problem just "sudo mv /etc/fstab-copy /etc/fstab" and changes will be reverted [16:10] <IP92> reisio, nvm, found it [16:10] <bgc> badbodh, ok i copied now im rebooting [16:10] <badbodh> reboot and get back, i just learned uid= doesn't work with ext4 [16:10] <bgc> badbodh, :D [16:10] <badbodh> so we both are learning :P [16:11] <bgc> badbodh, :D [16:11] <reisio> IP92: gj [16:11] <timbozeman> TJ-: tyvm for looking into this! pastebin.com/jtvpmA5f [16:12] <TJ-> timbozeman: The xrandr output you showed looks wrong to me, in that every mode being offered except 1920x1080 is based on VESA SVGA modes with 4:2 aspect. I'd expect a clean HD monitor to offer modes like 1680x1050 and 1280x960 and so on [16:12] <timbozeman> http://pastebin.com/jtvpmA5f [16:12] <TJ-> timbozeman: Aha! "(WW) NVIDIA(GPU-0): The EDID for SONY TV (DFP-1) contradicts itself: mode" [16:13] <timbozeman> rawr [16:13] <BuzzardBuzz> :) [16:13] <timbozeman> TJ-: good call :) [16:13] <bgc> badbodh, ok everything turned back [16:13] <TJ-> timbozeman: Now lets have the exact model of that Sony TV [16:14] <bgc> badbodh, any other solution [16:14] <badbodh> so your drive is back to /media/data ? [16:14] <timbozeman> TJ-: It's a sony bravia 50 inch back projection type, should I get a serial number? [16:14] <bgc> badbodh, yes media data [16:15] <TJ-> timbozeman: The exact model number; those brand names Bravia and sizes aren't usually enough. The serial number sticker will usually have model number code too [16:15] <IP92> for some reason my ls doesn't show any colors anymore. anyone knows why? [16:15] <badbodh> bgc, do "sudo chown -R <username> /media/data" and "sudo chown -R <username> /media/data/*" [16:15] <TJ-> timbozeman: E.g. KDF-50E2010 [16:16] <badbodh> replace <username> with whatever your name is, example "sudo chown -R bgc /media/data" [16:16] <timbozeman> TJ-: KDF-50E3000 [16:16] <TJ-> timbozeman: I suspect the issue is the TV only supports 720p HD not full 1080p HD [16:17] <TJ-> timbozeman: OK, the manual says I'm wrong on that! That's helpful (for you) [16:17] <timbozeman> :D [16:17] <badbodh> bgc, no need to reboot this time. but this is a 'rude' command :P [16:17] <bgc> badbodh, ok then [16:17] <badbodh> now open your folders [16:17] <bgc> badbodh, :D :D :D [16:18] <bgc> badbodh, thnx a lot :D :D :D working ;) [16:18] <badbodh> bgc, but if you create another user account, that account may not be able to access media/data [16:19] <badbodh> in that case you need chmod commands, i don't completely understand them but there are guides in web [16:20] <bgc> badbodh, ok im single user no need any other user thnx for everything :) [16:20] <badbodh> np [16:20] <ikonia> maziar: no - you're running on debian. not ubuntu, so you are not supported here, please don't ask again [16:20] <TJ-> timbozeman: I'm going to hazard a guess here based on the EDID info. Either your TV is an incorrectly badged 720p model *or* the firmware in it is shared with the 720p model *and/or* the 1920p/i modes it offers are tuned for digital cinema device modes (blue-ray players) not PC modes. That would explain the overscan. [16:21] <timbozeman> TJ-: internally right? not in like a way I could see through a menu option or something? [16:21] <TJ-> timbozeman: If you're able to test it on Windows and it works with 1080p correctly, there's a Windows tool (I forget it's name - something like 'powerline') that can extract the modelines the Windows driver uses so you can manually add them to the "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" in a "Monitor" section [16:22] <TJ-> timbozeman: correct, internally, in the TVs firmware. [16:23] <bgc> badbodh, is there any program to create wifi ap,hotspot ? [16:23] <maziar> ikonia, is there any diffrent beetween debian and ubuntu ? [16:23] <ikonia> yes [16:24] <badbodh> bgc, in control panel>network>wifi>create a hotspot button [16:24] <MonkeyDust> maziar if ubuntu were exactly the same as debian, it would be called debian [16:25] <maziar> ok professorz , no one of can help me ? [16:25] <TJ-> timbozeman: Look at comment #39 of this forum post. It might help you. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1003099&page=4 [16:25] <bgc> badbodh, but my internet comes from wifi [16:25] <bennypr0fane> Hej, If I want to shh into a device over a usb network connection, how do I make sure it uses the usb network instead of the ethernet when I run the ssh command? [16:26] <timbozeman> TJ-: thank you [16:26] <badbodh> bgc, then you need to figure out the wifi router, it should have a booklet/manual or something ? [16:27] <TJ-> timbozeman: It looks like you've some work ahead but that #39 description perfectly describes your issue so I'd rate the chances of a fix based on that at higher than 75% [16:28] <mik__> !list [16:30] <TJ-> timbozeman: in case it helps, I think this is the Windows tool: http://www.geocities.ws/podernixie/htpc/modeline-en.html [16:30] <bgc> badbodh, default hotspot just supported wired connections but it is not possible to have wired network do u know any other custom program to make hotspot from wifi [16:30] <timbozeman> TJ-: I'll try that first! thank you! [16:32] <badbodh> bgc, i don't understand the question. do you want your computer to create wi-fi hotspot, or the router to create it [16:35] <bgc> badbodh, from computer [16:36] <badbodh> bgc, you are using ubuntu unity ? [16:36] <TJ-> timbozeman: Strangely, that model's User Guide specifications page 49 says, for the inputs, "HDMI: Video: 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p, PC timing " - note the PC timing! Maybe the TV menu *does* have an option to change the input type? [16:36] <lungaro> I want a quick and fast way to graph network bandwidth. Is there some tool out there that does this for a desktop? [16:36] <lungaro> all I know of is ganglia, cacti, etc that are annoying to setup. I was hoping for a "desktop" one that's easy to use [16:38] <TJ-> lungaro: Etherape maybe? [16:38] <lungaro> i'll check it out. Its just annoying that the graphing is seperate from the collection from the desktop perspective [16:38] <SchrodingersScat> !info iftop | depending on what you mean by graph [16:39] <lungaro> I want a graph in a webpage, just like a simple mrtg [16:39] <timbozeman> TJ-: it has an option to do wide, full, zoom. I think the full option is the 1 to 1 pixel thing? (no clue really) [16:39] <ioria> !info BandwidthD [16:39] <al2o3-cr> !info slurm [16:40] <lungaro> you da man! [16:40] <al2o3-cr> !info speedometer that nice :) [16:40] <al2o3-cr> !info speedometer [16:40] <TJ-> timbozeman: looks like you'll have to experiment [16:41] * timbozeman puts on his lab coat [16:42] <SatanSlut666XXX> Does the truth hide in logs? [16:42] * TJ- is off to test another bisected kernel [16:42] <teward> anyone have a guide to enforcing certain 'file create' settings for a folder, such that user:group is always defined for new files, rather than UserThatCreated:group ? [16:54] <hydrian> Ello all [16:56] <hydrian> I've got an issue. I have an old printer who driver doesn't work with Ubuntu >= 12.04 [16:56] <hydrian> I need to install 10.04. [16:57] <hydrian> When I go to install 10.04, I get an error that it can't download any current kernel. I'm guessing that the deb repository moved. [16:59] <MonkeyDust> hydrian yes, because 10.04 os eol, no lo longer available [16:59] <MonkeyDust> is* [16:59] <darthanubis> 10.04 for printer support? That does not sound like a plan at all [17:00] <hydrian> I'm just setting it as VM. The driver is i386 only. So an RPi is out the question. [17:00] <hydrian> I need a cups server so I can cloud print to it. To replace the printer it will cost me at least 300+ [17:00] <darthanubis> whats the printer model? [17:00] <hydrian> Brother HL-4040CN [17:01] <jParkton> plug it into a toaster [17:01] <jParkton> not a cup [17:01] <jParkton> :P [17:01] <kevin_> Hello does anybody know how to work with GRUB? [17:02] <hydrian> I have the lastest release of the driver. The driver prints but the color levels are all off. If I run the test pages or with a windows driver, they print fine. [17:02] <hydrian> The printer was EOLed in 2010. [17:03] <hydrian> Setting up an old OS is free vs buy an new printer. [17:03] <darthanubis> !ask | kevin_ [17:05] <darthanubis> hydrian not very good support for that model in linux [17:06] <hydrian> darthanubis: I know. But it was a great price at the time when I bought. It has been a good printer up until now. [17:07] <hydrian> $200 USD for a color networked laser printer that supported linux was insanely good in 2009 [17:08] <hydrian> Either way... Brother hasn't updated the driver. [17:10] <Ioyrie> Brother did not bother [17:10] <c_nick> although windows questions but when running xcopy from batch job files are not getting copied http://paste.ubuntu.com/11715334/ [17:12] <MonkeyDust> c_nick sure you're in the right channel? [17:14] <hydrian> Ioyrie: I know. the HL-4050 used a standardized scripte (BrightScript). The 4040 was a one off and used some proprietary code. [17:16] <leni> Hello, I'm experiencing an issue with internet on 15.04 as of yesterday (I think it's related to an update). My connection works on my other OS, I can ping my router, and I can ping Google's DNS server, but when I load a page from Firefox or Chrome it says it couldn't connect to the DNS servers. It appears others might be having this issue as well, I found this guy with the same problem: http://askubuntu.com/questions/636340/15-04-updat [17:17] <IP92> my tab completion suddenly stopped working for apt-get [17:17] <IP92> in terminal [17:18] <TJ-> leni: Is the PC using Wireless or Wired Ethernet? [17:18] <leni> TJ-: Wired. Using DHCP; it has an IP address from my router and I can even ping 8.8.8.8, just no actual domain names. [17:19] <hydrian> leni: DNS issue then [17:19] <TJ-> leni: So, DNS. Is it using NetworkManager? [17:20] <leni> TJ-: I believe so, can't recall. I haven't swapped any packages out so whatever is default for 15.04 [17:21] <TJ-> leni: OK, tell us if the dnsmasq process is running using this: "ps -efly | grep dnsmasq.*NetworkManager' [17:21] <leni> TJ-: alright. i'll have to reboot, give me a second [17:22] <TJ-> leni: hold on! [17:23] <TJ-> leni: If you're rebooting the PC to test we can give you a temporary workaround so you have DNS to make diagnosis easier [17:23] <leni> TJ-: could you clarify the mismatching quotes? double quote at the beginning single quote at the end? [17:23] <leni> TJ-: alright [17:23] <TJ-> leni: Sorry! I enclose commands in double quotes ... but forgot to put the closing quote on that line! [17:23] <leni> TJ-: No worries, just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something. [17:24] <TJ-> leni: I'm going to give you a quick overview of how DNS resolution is supposed to work so you can tackle this intelligently [17:24] <leni> TJ-: I have a vague understanding.. upset my uni didn't have a networking course available when I was there haha. [17:25] <TJ-> leni: NetworkManager operates its own private instance of dnsmasq (a local caching DNS server). When NetworkManager manages a DHCP interface it uses "dhclient" to obtain the IP address, gateway, DNS servers, from the DHCP server. Then it should pass the DNS server IPs received to dnsmasq to use. [17:26] <TJ-> leni: The system's "/etc/resolv.conf" (which says where to ask for DNS lookups) will point to that instance of dnsmasq which is usually "nameserver 127.0.1.1" [17:27] <TBotNik> All: Noticed a couple things that was wondering if anyone has solution resources on? 1.) Google's javascript, now using HTML5 memory cache no longer allows multi-user logins, 2.) Craiglist only allows 5 minutes of operation, then shuts you down for 15-30 min, before you can work again, 3.) Ubuntu/Kubuntu 14.04 is still unstable, cannot get any of my 8 machines to be/work the same! All help appreciated [17:27] <TJ-> leni: That file will be updated from time-to-time by NetworkManager *but* there is a time window whereby you can manually change that file and NetworkManager won't immediately update the file [17:28] <TJ-> leni: So, you can (repeatedly) write to that file a valid DNS server (such as Google DNS) whenever NetworkManager changes it. You'd use the command "echo 'nameserver 8.8.8.8' | sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf" [17:29] <TJ-> leni: So, when you reboot to test if you have that command on-hand you can get DNS working from a terminal and use that command whenever you lose DNS resolution because NetworkManager has updated that file [17:29] <TJ-> leni: In terms of diagnosis, the key thing is to provis us with a pastebin of the file "/var/log/syslog" where NetworkManager writes logs of everything it does [17:31] <TJ-> TBotNik: I've not seen any unstable behaviour in Kubuntu 14.04; what specifically have you experienced? [17:32] <leni> Awesome. Thanks! I'll be back in a minute :) [17:32] <MonkeyDust> TBotNik scroll down, "how vagrant benefits you", is it useful http://docs.vagrantup.com/v2/why-vagrant/index.html [17:32] <callooo> hi all [17:37] <dsfv> hi, im on another distro i want to create bootable usb stick with 14.04 but it doesn't work with dd if=img of=/dev/sdb it produces corrupt stick, its bootable, but only to bootloader not kernel, it failes due corrupt kernal image [17:37] <TBotNik> TJ-: Work machine, corrupted "System Monitor" when I migrated from 12.04 to 14.04 and have found no way to recover that. Gives XML error. It also will not load TeamViewer, but was having that problem under 12.04 before the upgrade! [17:37] <TBotNik> TJ-: Laptop has Apache errors and will not load any site or file with "index.*". It also will not sync at all on Dropbox! [17:38] <TBotNik> TJ-: Desktop here and Laptop both have Network Manager problems [17:39] <leni> TJ-: I'm back... it appears that yes, /usr/sbin/dnsmaq is running... [17:39] <TBotNik> TJ-: None of the machines will sync MySQL [17:39] <TJ-> leni: That's good news if its the private instance operated by NetworkManager :) [17:40] <TJ-> TBotNik: let's stick in #kubuntu else it gets confusing [17:40] <leni> TJ-: It says the process is owned by "nobody" it looks like, does NetworkManager have a user? [17:41] <leni> TJ-: and as far as /var/log/syslog goes should I grep it for relevant stuff or just paste the whole file? [17:41] <TJ-> leni: paste it please; it'll be far quicker :) [17:42] <TJ-> leni: dnsmasq owner nobody is correct. The main way of identifying it is a private instance for NetworkManager is the command line has 'NetworkManager' in its options several times :) [17:44] <TJ-> leni: E.g: pastebinit <(ps -efly | grep dnsmasq.*NetworkManager) gives me: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11715519/ [17:44] <leni> TJ-: Yes, it does. I can pastebin you the output of that ps command if you would like. Here's the paste of my syslog: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11715513/ [17:44] <TBotNik> TJ-: I installed via online for the Work machine all others via Live DVD. Also noticed the recover mode on boot from the LiveDVD, which was on all previous version is no longer an option, so you only 2 options, is format a new instance of OS or destroy all your data via full disk format! Not acceptable at all!!!!! [17:45] <TBotNik> TJ-: Cursor (Mouse) is now so totally crapped on this Desktop, that selection of any text is impossible! [17:45] <leni> TJ-: It looks pretty similar, here's mine if you're curious http://paste.ubuntu.com/11715545/ [17:47] <TJ-> leni: That looks fine... lets see what the syslog looks like [17:48] <leni> TJ-: sounds good! [17:50] <compdoc> anyone else having problems with the mirrors running apt-get update or upgrade? [17:51] <SomeGuy77> Hey, anyone know why ssh-rsa doesn't work on ubuntu 12 server? - ie given a ssh-rsa <somekey> <user@host> I get command not found, how to fix this, or a workaround? Thanks. [17:52] <Bashing-om> compdoc: ttp://ftp.utexas.edu trusty is good . [17:52] <compdoc> Some packages could not be authenticated [17:56] <win_> heya guys [17:56] <win_> i got a shiny new dell m3800 precision [17:56] <win_> ubuntu 14.04.2 on it [17:56] <win_> and it's a mess graphics wise [17:56] <compdoc> seems to be ok now [17:57] <win_> running nvidia open source 352 atm, does anyone know what i can do? [17:57] <win_> i hit black screen a lot after boot [17:58] <prodigel> Hey all. I'm having font issues in google-chrome all of a sudden. I've noticed them earlier in Kde, but awesomewm kept working well. Until today that is. Fonts look squarish, and small. Is this a common issue? [17:58] <win_> if i prime-select intel which i am doing currently compiz freaks at me [18:02] <TJ-> leni: how are you doing with getting that syslog pastebinned? [18:03] <BeerLover> Can anyone help me with the no sound issue? [18:03] <leni> TJ-: oh, sorry, haha the link is up there a ways lemme find it [18:03] <Bashing-om> win_: 14.04 does not have support for latestest hardware, what is the graphics card(s) ' lspci -vnn | grep VGA -A 12 ' ? Maybe a proprietary driver will serve better ? [18:03] <leni> TJ-: should be this one: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11715513/ [18:03] <BeerLover> I connected my ASUS laptop to my TV via HDMI. I shut down my laptop afterwards and now sound is not working. [18:04] <BeerLover> It was working via audio jack for some time, but then it also stopped working. [18:04] <BeerLover> The output devices in audio settings is empty [18:05] <kaseoga_> im trying to create a pendrive with windows 7 bootable with ubuntu but it-s imposible [18:05] <kaseoga_> im using gparted to format to fat32 and then unetbootin to load iso to pen [18:05] <kaseoga_> and nothing, when i restart, grub always [18:06] <TJ-> leni: mmmm ... reading [18:07] <TJ-> leni: look to line 9228 onwards... that's the latest DHCP entries. Looks to me like ou might have an issue with IPv6 taking preference. Is your network operating dual-stack (IPv4 and IPv6) ? [18:08] <leni> TJ-: no, most of my network hardware is so old it doesn't support IPv6, is there some way I can just disable it? [18:08] <TJ-> leni: That looks to be the issue... you see that line "whoopsie[724]: [11:35:59] Cannot reach: https://daisy.ubuntu.com" [18:08] <TeraJL> hi there guys, is the 3 years old bug that is making me not being able to use unity fixed? I have problems with my right arm, so it's hard for me to reach the arrows so I can switch desktops.... I usually set alt+1...4(to switch to desktop #), and alt+shift+1...4(to send window to desktop #), but if you go to shortcuts and change the "send window to desktop #" shortcut it simply does not work [18:09] <TJ-> leni: If I do "dig -t A daisy.ubuntu.com" I get back correct IPv4 record. However, if I do "dig -t AAAA daisy.ubuntu.com" I get back an empty record [18:11] <TJ-> leni: DNS record type AAAA is an IPv6 host IP ... which isn't being returned. So, my suggestion would be to focus on disabling IPv6... first step would be in the NetworkManager Connection editor for the connection, on the IPv6 tab, setting it to disabled/ignored or link-local [18:12] <leni> TJ-: I set is to ignored. Now, when I cat /etc/resolv.conf, it still says nameserver 8.8.8.8, so can I force NetworkManager to rewrite that file somehow to see if it worked? [18:12] <BeerLover> Can anyone help me with the no sound issue? [18:12] <BeerLover> The output devices in audio settings is empty [18:12] <BeerLover> It was working via audio jack for some time, but then it also stopped working. [18:12] <jacob_> waz good broo [18:12] <jacob_> waz good [18:12] <jacob_> i aml rap beats [18:13] <TJ-> leni: disable and reenable the connection should do it [18:13] <win_> thanks Bashing-om trying the 331 propritry drivers now [18:13] <jacob_> do u guys like limms [18:14] <jacob_> mpk akai [18:16] <leni> TJ-: Still says nameserver 8.8.8.8. The network configuration dialog says that the automatically configured one is 75.75.75.75 [18:17] <TJ-> leni: OK... you may have found us a clue as to what is going on. Let's look in detail at the connection config itself. [18:17] <callooo> hello [18:17] <TJ-> leni: First, is the connection shared by all users according to the check-box in the General tab of the connection editor? [18:18] <leni> yes [18:19] <leni> TJ-: ipv4 is set to automatic, and this is what the information dialogue looks like: http://i.imgur.com/3MyPfFe.png [18:19] <TJ-> leni: OK... lets interrupt that line of thought I have something interesting. Look at line 9177 of the syslog pastebin. That tells me the /etc/resolv.conf entry somehow got hard-coded. Lets fix that. [18:20] <compdoc> leni, your network isnt gigabit? [18:20] <TJ-> leni: "sudo ln -sf /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf /etc/resolv.conf" [18:20] <leni> compdoc: no, old hardware :) mobo is, but everything else is 100mb [18:21] <leni> TJ-: alright, done [18:21] <TJ-> leni: and working backwards see line 9157 [18:21] <TJ-> leni: that and the following lines tell us the original cause. NM can't 'talk' to its private dnsmasq instance for some reason [18:21] <leni> TJ-: this guy here? "<warn> dnsmasq not available on the bus, can't update servers." [18:22] <TJ-> leni: Yes, and about 5 lines later "...failed" [18:22] <BeerLover> My sound only works on login screen [18:22] <BeerLover> nowhere else [18:22] <BeerLover> Any idea how to fix that? [18:22] <leni> TJ-: interesting. I'm blaming ubuntu updates :P worked Friday no problem! :) [18:24] <TJ-> leni: me too... lets see if we can figure out why... show me "pastebinit <(cat '/etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/Wired connection 1')" [18:26] <TeraJL> if someone with the latest version and fully updated could test if the shortcut for sending window to workspace 2 it's working would help me allot [18:28] <ioria> TeraJL, yep [18:28] <N3sh108> hello! [18:28] <N3sh108> I have a question concerning my ubuntu 14.04 [18:28] <Bashing-om> !ask | N3sh108 [18:29] <TeraJL> ioria: you can set for example alt+shift+1 for workspace 1 and 2 for 2,and it sends the window around? [18:29] <N3sh108> Bashing-om: I know, I thought I could phrase is quickly but it's taking longer than planned :P [18:29] <BeerLover> !patience [18:29] <TJ-> leni: That command I gave you - you'll probably need to prefix sudo to cat: " ... <(sudo cat /etc/..." [18:30] <N3sh108> for some reason, I am getting 'Connection activation failed - (32) Not authorized to control networking'. Even when inserting a USB stick, it doesn't allow me to do it from the GUI because I am not root. [18:30] <ioria> TeraJL, i can send terminal window to workspace 2 with the shortcut, no problem [18:30] <BeerLover> My sound only works on login screen [18:30] <N3sh108> How do i tell Ubuntu that my user can do that stuff (only user apart from Guest) [18:30] <BeerLover> Any idea how to fix that? [18:30] <BeerLover> The output devices in audio settings is empty [18:31] <leni> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11715757/ [18:32] <TJ-> leni: Good. nothing to surprise us there [18:32] <TJ-> leni: show us "/etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf" please [18:32] <codepython777> I'm looking for a nice ui (web based) to manage 10s of ubuntu boxes deployed on hardware/vms. Any suggestions? (Mostly need configuration management + status) [18:33] <leni> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11715773/ [18:36] <TJ-> leni: Again, good. [18:37] <ioria> if i Ignore/Disable IPV6 the Default Route in Connection Information should be empty, right ? [18:38] <Bashing-om> TJ-: leni Excuse if I am barking up the wrong tree, but " managed=false "; does this not mean that networking is controlled from " /etc/network/interfaces " rather than Network-manager ?? [18:39] <TJ-> leni: I have to go to dinner now. My suggestion is to reboot the PC and test again., we may be diagnosing a fixed issue. If not, look at the resulting syslog again starting at the end of the file and working backwards until you find NetworkManager entries from where it started to bring up the connection, as per the exampels I've already pointed you to. [18:40] <TJ-> Bashing-om: No, the opposite. See "man NetworkManager.conf": "... If set to true, then interfaces listed in /etc/network/interfaces are managed by NetworkManager ..." [18:40] <Bashing-om> TJ-: :) thanks for that ! [18:41] <BeerLover> The output devices in audio settings is empty [18:41] <BeerLover> Please help! [18:41] <dora> Morning. [18:43] <dora> I have an external USB drive Clonezilla can see to give me the device name and mount but not to choose to back up on. Reason could possibly be drive name is "Seagate Expansion+", not a legal linux name. How do I change the nameof the drive? [18:43] <leni> TJ-: Thanks for all your help! [18:43] <dora> None of my efforts to do that have taken. [18:45] <Decoy_Platypus> Does the normal Ubuntu Install Live CD start an ssh server? [18:46] <teward> Decoy_Platypus: no, it shouldn't. [18:46] <teward> Decoy_Platypus: why? [18:46] <MonkeyDust> Decoy_Platypus you have to install it [18:46] <N3sh108> any idea about my problem? ;( [18:46] <teward> ^ [18:46] <teward> Decoy_Platypus: what MonkeyDust said, you have to install it [18:46] <Decoy_Platypus> teward: ok, thanks [18:48] <dora> N3sh108, I did just enter, but I can't find your problem. [18:49] <N3sh108> for some reason, I am getting 'Connection activation failed - (32) Not authorized to control networking'. Even when inserting a USB stick, it doesn't allow me to do it from the GUI because I am not root. [18:49] <N3sh108> How do i tell Ubuntu that my user can do that stuff (only user apart from Guest) [18:49] <N3sh108> for instance, at times I can't seem to be able to tell the computer to shut down [18:49] <x4Dx5A> N3sh108: does sudo work? [18:50] <N3sh108> from terminal everything works x4Dx5A [18:50] <N3sh108> I'm using gnome [18:50] <N3sh108> if it's useful [18:50] <HoloIRCUser> Has anyone used planet w/ Linux to tether? I'm not finding good information on it and planet fails for creating hotspot and for Bluetooth. [18:51] <dora> N3sh108 that sounds like a user properties issue. I'm in middle of workingin gparted so can't explore that with you, but basically you need to edit your user's privileges and group membershihps (which help control his privileges) [18:52] <N3sh108> mmm ok dora [18:52] <x4Dx5A> N3sh108: i agree with dora. if sudo works (or with gnome gksudo) with your account but normal gui tasks fail on permissions then you should check your user group memberships. [18:54] <bob_> t [18:54] <callooo> hello [18:55] <N3sh108> thanks, checking now x4Dx5a - dora [18:57] <N3sh108> my user is part of the following groups: [18:57] <N3sh108> nesh adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev netdev lpadmin sambashare wireshark - dora, x4Dx5a [19:04] <bob_> hi! i try to install a plug-in Bimp in Gimp. I download the files, extracted. but im not sure for "make && make install" can someone help ty! [19:04] <lisbeth> Is it safe to allow a non-rooted account on a server to have a public password over ssh? [19:04] <lisbeth> I mean nonsudoer [19:07] <lisbeth> Wow, it's sort of quiet. Does anybody know any good channels for system administrators? [19:08] <compdoc> looking to hire some? [19:08] <lisbeth> No I just have newb questions [19:09] <j1n3l0> hello all. i am having issues installing ubuntu 15.04 from dvd on my laptop. tried several times today. it is hanging at this step "creating ext4 file system for / partition #2 of scsi1 (0,0,0) (sda) ...". when i look at the output i see errors like "acpi error: method parse/execution failed ...". any help would be greatly appreciated. [19:17] <tomreyn> j1n3l0: install the latest available stable bios update for your mainboard, then retry. if this issue persists try installing ubuntu 14.04 instead. you can always upgrade later. [19:19] <N3sh108> I tried to search stuff but I couldn't find what to do to check the permissions for my user [19:19] <N3sh108> showing which groups I am in didn't really help [19:19] <bekks> N3sh108: Whats the exact issue you are trying to solve? [19:19] <j1n3l0> tomreyn: i don't know how to that i'm afraid.. is there a way to find out what my mainboard is? [19:20] <tomreyn> lisbeth: how safe it is depends on the quality of the password, of course. generally accounts which allow for ssh password authentication are to be considered to provide a larger attack surface than accountsonly allowing for ssh key authentication. [19:20] <lisbeth> tomreyn, the password is very safe, but it it would be public [19:21] <tomreyn> j1n3l0: you could open your computer and look for it. but that's usually easier said than done. do you have any working operating system there? [19:21] <lisbeth> everyone knows it [19:21] <N3sh108> bekks: gnome feels weird - I seem to not have enough priviledges for wireless (I got Not authorized to control networking) and to mount USB sticks [19:21] <N3sh108> I can do all that from terminal though [19:21] <N3sh108> so I feel it's a problem related to gnome and my user [19:21] <j1n3l0> tomreyn: not anymore [19:21] <tomreyn> lisbeth: huh, what's the puepose of using a password if you'll publish it? [19:21] <bekks> N3sh108: Which Ubuntu are you using? [19:21] <ioria> j1n3l0, what you had before on that laptop ? [19:21] <N3sh108> bekks: at times, I also seem unable to reboot/shut down the computer [19:22] <N3sh108> 14.04 (Trusty) [19:22] <tomreyn> j1n3l0: and that worked fine? [19:23] <j1n3l0> tomreyn: originally a windows laptop, i installed ubuntu 32 bit 11.04 (i think), upgraded each year to 14.10, then today tried to install 15.04 64 bit. so last working version was ubuntu 14.10 32 bit. [19:23] <tomreyn> j1n3l0: do you know the model of that laptop? i didn't realize you said it was a laptop until now. you can ignore what i said about th emainboard [19:23] <PCatinean> Help i'm going crazy [19:23] <N3sh108> any idea bekks? [19:23] <PCatinean> after X time, I cannot click on anything on my browser [19:24] <PCatinean> everything is working great but the browser window is just untouchable [19:24] <j1n3l0> tomreyn, lenovo ideapad z570 [19:24] <bekks> N3sh108: Which groups is your user in? [19:24] <N3sh108> nesh adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev netdev lpadmin sambashare wireshark - bekks [19:25] <ioria> j1n3l0, did you select automatic partition ? [19:26] <j1n3l0> ioria, yes i did [19:26] <ioria> j1n3l0, erase disk and install ? [19:27] <j1n3l0> ioria, yeah. several times. it keeps getting stuck [19:28] * ObrienDave suggests trying it manually using the "something else" option [19:28] <tomreyn> j1n3l0: BIOS Version 45CN38WW (2011-11-01) is the latest: http://support.lenovo.com/us/en/products/laptops-and-netbooks/ideapad-z-series-laptops/ideapad-z570 [19:28] <tomreyn> j1n3l0: which one you have now should show on the pre-boot screen [19:28] <lisbeth> tomreyn, just adds a slight layer of security. I am actually trying to figure out how to sandbox this guest and I think the best way is to edit it's path [19:28] <tomreyn> that's unless you have some "full screen logo" / graphical boot enabled [19:29] <j1n3l0> tomreyn, so u suggest i try installing that and then install ubuntu again? [19:30] <tomreyn> j1n3l0: it's worth a try. but maybe there's something easier: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions [19:30] <tomreyn> try to hit F6 on the ubuntu boot screen , then select acpi=no [19:30] <tomreyn> i mean acpi=off sorry [19:31] <Kaliz> how can I share my mobile broadband connection with other computers and phone devices? [19:31] <ioria> j1n3l0, i don't want to be catastrophic , but if it fails creating the filesystem could be the hd [19:31] <Johnny_Linux> or a bad burn [19:32] <ioria> yep [19:32] <tomreyn> lisbeth: it's really not easy to sandbox users who have shell access. there are so many ways to elevate access. you'd better consider using something like containers. [19:32] <Johnny_Linux> i dont think its the bios [19:32] <j1n3l0> tomreyn, ioria: thanks, i will try ur suggestions and come back if unsuccesful [19:32] <ObrienDave> j1n3l0, have you checked md5 of the iso before burning? [19:33] <tomreyn> lisbeth: or even para virtualization. [19:33] <Johnny_Linux> burn another copy @ 10-15 speed [19:33] <ObrienDave> try 4x max [19:33] <tomreyn> j1n3l0: there's a "check disc for defects" option to rule this issue out [19:33] <tomreyn> also on the boot menu [19:34] <tomreyn> http://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/original/1354180067.png [19:34] <ioria> j1n3l0, download a Lubuntu iso (very small), go to UUI(linuxpendrive) and try it [19:34] <conorMcGregor9> how can i get a taskbar at the bottom with the opened windows? [19:34] <Johnny_Linux> actually, a usb stick would be better [19:35] <MonkeyDust> conorMcGregor9 in Unity you can't, try lxde or xfce, or install cairo-dock [19:35] <j1n3l0> tomreyn, trouble started because i did not have a gui on boot. had just a black screen. i knew the "try" option was first so i just hit "enter" [19:35] <j1n3l0> tomreyn, hopefully it appears this time [19:36] <j1n3l0> ioria, will try that next [19:36] <conorMcGregor9> MonkeyDust, then ill lose the side panel right? [19:37] <ioria> j1n3l0, if it's the hd, remember that you can always use an external usb hd [19:37] <tomreyn> j1n3l0: take note of the first sentence of the wiki page i pointed you to: As the CD boots, the user can gain access to the advanced page and its options by pressing any key when the small logo appears at the bottom of your screen: [19:38] <tomreyn> so press a key when ubuntu boots, that's before it enters the graphical mode. [19:38] <j1n3l0> tomreyn, thanks [19:39] <tomreyn> welcome, good luck :) [19:40] <MonkeyDust> conorMcGregor9 ah, you want both... then try cairo or another dock... 14.04 has 'plank' [19:40] <ex0r> Hello, could somebody here please help me fix a ubuntu problem? I have ubuntu15 installed, and to enable rdp I installed MATE, and now when I try logging in at startup, using the ubuntu default login type, it kicks me back out to the login prompt. All I can do is select the mate login. [19:40] <MonkeyDust> conorMcGregor9 15.04 has 'plank' (typo) [19:41] <conorMcGregor9> am on 14.04 :/ [19:41] <conorMcGregor9> where can i view all the plugins? [19:42] <conorMcGregor9> on debian i could use extensions.gnome.org [19:42] <conorMcGregor9> doesnt seem to work on ubuntu [19:42] <tomreyn> ex0r: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install unity [19:43] <ex0r> tomreyn, - does mate uninstall unity? [19:43] <smallmouse> hoping someone can assist i have a file I have on my machine I need to install. When I unzip I get two folders and on .sh file . How can I install this ? cnijfilter-mp250series-3.40-1-deb.tar.gz is the name of the original zip file. Software manager is not recognising this. [19:43] <ex0r> it says unity is already installed [19:43] <tomreyn> ex0r: that's my guess. i dont think mate is supported by default, or is it? [19:43] <ex0r> I don't know, I had to install it so I could RDP into my desktop machine [19:44] <ex0r> at least that's what the guide I followed said [19:44] <tomreyn> that's not actually related [19:44] <johnsmith> is there an IRC for people using Elementary OS [19:44] <johnsmith> ??? [19:44] <ex0r> Installing MATE is what messed up the login screen [19:44] <ex0r> and im just trying to restore it [19:45] <conorMcGregor9> smallmouse, is the .sh file for the install? [19:45] <smallmouse> conorMcGregor9: yes it appears so [19:45] <smallmouse> conorMcGregor9: but how do i execute this ? thanks [19:45] <ObrienDave> right click the .sh and execute [19:45] <tomreyn> ex0r: hmm apparently mate is a supported package in 15.04, i wasn't aware. so it *should* be compatible to unity. unless the how.to you used instructed you to break stuff. [19:46] <conorMcGregor9> or type './file.sh' in the terminal [19:46] <tomreyn> ex0r: what's the how-to you used? [19:46] <smallmouse> ObrienDave: run in terminal, display or run. I have tried all of them but not sure if anything happened. [19:46] <conorMcGregor9> open a terminal instead smallmouse [19:46] <ObrienDave> ^^^ [19:46] <ex0r> tomreyn, - I would have to find it again, it's been a few weeks since I used it. I've been out of town and just got back to diagnose the problem, but everything was done through apt-get [19:46] <smallmouse> conorMcGregor9: ok opened [19:47] <conorMcGregor9> cd to the directory and use './file.sh' [19:47] <ex0r> is there a way I can diagnose what's causing the issue? If I click the circle next to my name, it brings up a bunch of options, one is 'Ubuntu Default', but when I select it, and log in, it makes the login noise and takes me back to the login screen [19:47] <conorMcGregor9> it should give some feedback [19:47] <x4Dx5A> ex0r: check to make sure the /tmp directory is writeable [19:48] <ex0r> x4Dx5A, Why would it be for one desktop environment and not another? [19:48] <tomreyn> ex0r: you can check the log files in /var/log, specifically the Xorg ones [19:48] <smallmouse> conorMcGregor9: ok in directory [19:48] <smallmouse> conorMcGregor9: the file is called install.sh [19:48] <conorMcGregor9> so type ' ./install.sh ' [19:48] <conorMcGregor9> without quotes [19:49] <tomreyn> ex0r: the logs should tell you how things failed when you tried to login to the default session [19:49] <smallmouse> conorMcGregor9: An error occurred. The package management system cannot be identified. [19:49] <tomreyn> conorMcGregor9: you are currently instructing someone to potentially hose their system [19:49] <smallmouse> conorMcGregor9: deb is for ubuntu ? or is it rpm ? [19:49] <tomreyn> it'd be good to add a word of warning to that [19:49] <x4Dx5A> ex0r: i just remember seeing that before. [19:49] <ex0r> I can see the log file, but no idea how to read it [19:49] <conorMcGregor9> .deb can be used with ubuntu [19:49] <x4Dx5A> ex0r: take a look at this thread http://askubuntu.com/questions/223501/ubuntu-gets-stuck-in-a-login-loop [19:49] <conorMcGregor9> but theres not usually a install.sh [19:50] <ex0r> hmm I did find this error: [19:50] <smallmouse> conorMcGregor9: there are 2 folders there packages and resource and then an install script [19:50] <conorMcGregor9> tomaw, i can only asume they know what their downloading [19:51] <smallmouse> conorMcGregor9: http://support-asia.canon-asia.com/contents/ASIA/EN/0100236101.html [19:51] <tomreyn> ex0r: please use a pastebin if you're going to paste more than 2 lines [19:52] <conorMcGregor9> smallmouse, is there a .deb file in there somehwere? [19:52] <ioria> smallmouse, rpm, i think [19:52] <smallmouse> conorMcGregor9: yes 4 other .deb in the packages [19:53] <smallmouse> conorMcGregor9: done i can open them in the software centre i think i am ok, thanks for the help [19:53] <ex0r> http://pastebin.com/4vnuzV1f [19:53] <ex0r> not sure if thats related or not [19:54] <smallmouse> conorMcGregor9: ah no they are not opening properly in software centre [19:54] <ReVoLt112> Does anyone have a Lenovo Flex 2 Pro? My Ubuntu 15 does not play sound via HDMI port [19:54] <ex0r> x4Dx5A, I looked through that page before, wasn't able to find a solution [19:54] <conorMcGregor9> yeah with your last message sounds like u have a problem with your packet manager [19:55] <smallmouse> conorMcGregor9: any ideas on fixing this ? [19:56] <conorMcGregor9> u will have to trace what the problem is more [19:57] <x4Dx5A> ex0r: just to check (sorry if you already said this) did you uninstall MATE or are you keeping MATE? [19:57] <Bashing-om> ex0r: A thought; do "you" own /home ' ls -al / ' and in /home do "you" own .ICEauthority and .Xauthority ' ls -al /hone ' ( at login ctl+alt+F1 to gain a console) ? [19:57] <ex0r> x4Dx5A, I would like to uninstall it, but want to make sure my normal login works first as i can only log in via MATE [19:58] <Bashing-om> ex0r: typo ls -al /home . [19:59] <ex0r> Bashing-om, . and .. are owned by root, my directory is owned by me [19:59] <ex0r> and same with .Xauthority and .ICEauthority [19:59] <x4Dx5A> ex0r: have you looked at this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/515697/get-back-the-original-ubuntu-desktop-after-removing-mate [20:00] <x4Dx5A> ex0r: you can also try this http://askubuntu.com/questions/146137/login-screen-loops-unless-you-login-as-guest [20:02] <Bashing-om> ex0r: Good, and .Xauthority and .ICEauthority in your /home directory are also owned by "you" ? [20:02] <ex0r> yes [20:03] <ex0r> I just removed MATE using sudo apt-get remove mate-desktop-environment, and than used sudo apt-get autoremove to remove the left over stuff [20:04] <Bashing-om> Next thought, is ' sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm ' See if you can reset to default . [20:04] <michael__> hi [20:04] <ex0r> using that command does nothing [20:04] <ex0r> just takes me back to the terminal [20:04] <michael__> pie [20:04] <lotuspsychje> michael__: can we help you? [20:04] <Guest12265> no [20:04] <x4Dx5A> ex0r: sudo apt-get remove --purge ubuntu-mate-core ubuntu-mate-desktop [20:04] <Guest12265> what happened to my name [20:04] <x4Dx5A> ex0r: sudo apt-get remove --purge gdm [20:04] <ex0r> x4Dx5A, neither of those packages are installed [20:05] <jParkton> autoremove only cleans up packages you no longer need [20:05] <ex0r> Reword that, none of those 3 packages are installed. [20:05] <x4Dx5A> ex0r: so then MATE is already unistalled? [20:05] <jParkton> if it returns and doesnt remove anything then there are no dependencies [20:05] <ex0r> sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm [20:05] <ex0r> I am talking about that command [20:05] <Bashing-om> ex0r: Shotgun approach ? sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop ?? [20:06] <ex0r> sure, let's try it [20:06] <ex0r> its done already [20:06] <ex0r> it said [20:06] <regedit> hello [20:06] <lotuspsychje> regedit: welcome, what can we do for you? [20:06] <regedit> i am consistently failing to setup a dual boot Windows + Ubuntu [20:06] <TJ-> Bashing-om: There's another .Xauthority that I found once needed removing to fix looping greeter issues. Check in "/var/run/ligthdm/root/" [20:07] <lotuspsychje> !dualboot | regedit [20:07] <regedit> lotuspsychje: why that is so kind of you good sir :) [20:07] <TJ-> Bashing-om: correcting for my typos of course! [20:07] <ex0r> TJ-, - I can't get into root [20:07] <ex0r> that folder, rather [20:07] <lotuspsychje> regedit: is your machine an uefi system? [20:08] <TJ-> ex0r: No, I mistyped it :) [20:08] <regedit> here is my most latest boot-repair output: paste.ubuntu.com/11716231 [20:08] <regedit> lotuspsychje: aha, bulls-eye question [20:08] <regedit> lotuspsychje: well [20:08] <TJ-> ex0r: in "sudo ls -la /var/run/lightdm/root/" [20:08] <regedit> lotuspsychje: my BIOS is set to UEFI enabled [20:08] <regedit> and Windows installs fine [20:08] <ex0r> TJ-, - shows . .. and :0 [20:08] <regedit> however during ubuntu installation i get a strange error [20:08] <ex0r> but says there are 4 tfiles in there [20:09] <ex0r> let me see if I can log in now, hold on [20:09] <ahmed> hi [20:09] <regedit> something to the effect of "...it looks like the other OS on this machine was installed with legacy BIOS and not UEFI..." wtf? [20:09] <regedit> lotuspsychje: ^ [20:09] <lotuspsychje> !uefi | regedit [20:10] <ex0r> Nope still cant log in [20:10] <ex0r> and MATE is still showing up on the login screen [20:11] <ex0r> grr this is annoying [20:11] <tomreyn> ex0r: to list remaining packages which may be related to mate: dpkg -l \*mate\* | grep ^i [20:11] <ex0r> let me try a restart [20:11] <ex0r> wow theres a lot [20:12] <ex0r> can I just do a sudo apt-get remove mate* [20:12] <Bashing-om> TJ-: UHHH .. nice to know about "/var/run/lightdm/root/" . I sure was not aware ! [20:12] <regedit> lotuspsychje: if I installed windows from a USB drive, does that not prove that I have UEFI working? [20:12] <lotuspsychje> regedit: make your life easy and single install ubuntu :p [20:13] <regedit> lotuspsychje: if only Unity engine editor worked on Linux...... [20:13] <tomreyn> ex0r: that'd be 'mate.*'. but whether tis a good idea to do so depends on which packages would be matching. just mate packages, or others, too? [20:14] <regedit> why does the ubuntu installation think I installed Windows without UEFI? [20:14] <Bashing-om> ex0r: How about we backup and regroup, Boot to TTY1 and try and start the desktop, see what errors the system reports ? [20:14] <ex0r> Bashing-om, No idea how to do that [20:14] <TJ-> ex0r: My first step would be to analyse the log files in "/var/log/lightdm" to determine why the login is failing. I assume lightdm displays its Greeter with the password entry field, you type your password, and it ehaves as if it is logging in and starting your user session, but then drops back to the Greeter? [20:14] <ex0r> TJ-, - yes [20:14] <ex0r> only if ubuntu default is selected [20:15] <tomreyn> ex0r: if you'd like a better idea of why unity is failing, post /var/log/Xorg*.log and ~/.xsession-errors to a pastebin and provide the links here. [20:15] <TJ-> ex0r: Bashing-om long shot but could this be because the session manager it is trying to start was removed by the installation of Mate? In which case that idea to "sudo apt-get --reinstall install ubuntu-desktop" might solve it [20:15] <ex0r> TJ- I already did that [20:16] <TJ-> ex0r: You're ahead of me :) [20:16] <tomreyn> ex0r: the log excerpt you posted before may already hnit at the cause of the problems you're running into. your graphics hardware acceleration is not working properly. [20:16] <ex0r> tomreyn, - Correct, but why would installing MATE cause that [20:17] <ex0r> this desktop ran default ubuntu install since 15.04 was out in beta without any issues, as soon as mate was installed I can no longer use the desktop [20:17] <ObrienDave> most likely a dependency conflict [20:17] <TJ-> ex0r: tomreyn That might make sense if the system can't fallback to a non-accelerated mode... but that would cause X to start in safe mode which is very obvious. [20:17] <regedit> lotuspsychje: how about this: during ubuntu installation, when i configure Ubuntu to install on the 2nd partition (at the bottom of that screen) and it asks me where to install the boot loader or something, what am i actually supposed to choose? [20:17] <tomreyn> ex0r: why mate would cause this is a miracle tome, too. [20:18] <TJ-> ex0r: I think removing Mate might help - my guess is that Mate has added entries under /etc/X11/Xsession.d/ and maybe other X config locations [20:18] <lotuspsychje> regedit: read the uefi link mate [20:18] <regedit> alright alright i'll actually read something for once... [20:18] <regedit> :P [20:19] <ex0r> TJ-, I used sudo apt-get remove mate-desktop-environment to uninstall it, although it still appears in the login screen. It could be because I didnt do a full restart though and only logged out [20:19] <TJ-> ex0r: That package is just one that depends on others to bring them in when it itself is installed. Removing it won't remove all its dependencies. I think your idea of removing all the mate* packages might help [20:20] * TJ- is rebooting for another kernel bisect test [20:22] <Bashing-om> ex0r: Mind you I do not "know" -yet ; but apt-get remove, will not delete files in the /home directory. maybe this has a bearing, Might be good to take TJ-'s advise and read the logs. Then maybe see what the errors are when attempting a manual startup of the desktop from terminal . [20:22] <ex0r> okay, I have no idea [20:23] <ex0r> apt-get says there are no matching packages installed [20:24] <ex0r> it could be my 3d graphics acceleration, the windows are lagging quite a bit when I drag them across the screen [20:24] <ex0r> but i have no idea why mate installation would have broken them [20:25] <kuba7447> whats the best GBA emulator for linux, VBA dosent work. [20:25] <ex0r> changing the drivers back to the open-source and tested ones to see if that helps [20:26] <ZdZARDOZ> hola buenas noches [20:26] <Bashing-om> ex0r: Well, we can look at the logs ' pastebinit /var/log/lightdm ' and ' pastebinit ~/.xsession-errors ' . A place to start . [20:27] <ex0r> Bashing-om, lightdm/* ? [20:27] <ex0r> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11716386/ xsession errors [20:29] <ex0r> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11716377/ [20:29] <ex0r> thats lightdm.log [20:30] <Bashing-om> ex0r: look'n at em // Be back soonest . [20:30] <ex0r> there is also one for x-0.log and x-0-greeter.log [20:32] <marcaddeo> ame [20:36] <tomreyn> ex0r: you could try "sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall" [20:36] <tomreyn> this would install the 'recommended' drivers for your hardware [20:37] <tomreyn> obviously you don't have 3d acceleration at this time, but that's mandatory for unity to work [20:37] <tomreyn> which can be why it fails to start [20:37] <ex0r> I dont even know if mate uses 3d acceleration so that may be why I dont have it. [20:37] <ex0r> I just know that when moving the windows, they are very laggy and new text coming on the screen is too [20:37] <tomreyn> i don't think mate requires 3d acceleration to work, no [20:38] <ex0r> Its upsetting me the darn thing isn't working and all i did was install mate. [20:39] <tomreyn> i concur that's disappointing, this shouldn't happen. [20:39] <tomreyn> getting desktop environments to play nice next to one another isn't a trivial task, though [20:40] <tomreyn> my take on ubuntu is: if you want things to work, use an LTS release. [20:40] <tomreyn> (of course this can mean you'll not have some features available at all) [20:41] <ex0r> hmm I dont even /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf [20:41] <tomreyn> you're missing a verb there [20:42] <ex0r> even have* [20:42] <conorMcGregor9> lol [20:42] <tomreyn> maybe you have gdm installed then [20:42] <ex0r> I used apt to check for it and it couldn't find it [20:42] <ex0r> and in the log files, its using lightdm [20:42] <Bashing-om> ex0r: tomreyn .. Hummm .. We have " CRITICAL: session_get_login1_session_id: assertion 'session != NULL' failed ' and mate is the issue " +24.96s] DEBUG: Session pid=1955: Greeter requests session mate and "[+25.23s] DEBUG: Session pid=1999: Running command /usr/sbin/lightdm-session mate-session" // Maybe we are at the point to look at lightdm's config files ? [20:43] <robhol> tomreyn: could've been something like "what is this I don't even" :P [20:43] <rOm3O> i am having this error at the start ACPCI probe failed [20:43] <rOm3O> how may i fix it? [20:43] <rOm3O> i googled it [20:43] <rOm3O> find that there is some nividia driver [20:44] <tomreyn> ex0r: i think the way forward is still what has been suggested a while ago - removing remaining mate packages [20:44] <rOm3O> my graphic card is Intel 82865G Grapnics controller [20:44] <tomreyn> ex0r: ...then making sure you have working 2d/3d acceleration via fglrx [20:44] <x4Dx5A> tomreyn: it certainly doesn't look like mate was fully unistalled... [20:44] <ex0r> tomreyn, I am trying to do so, I know for a fact, I installed it with dpkg or aptitude, and although dpkg shows that there are remaining packages, aptitude doesnt [20:45] <ex0r> so now I have no idea how to remove the remaining packages [20:46] <tomreyn> whoops, ctrl-q is not ctrl-f [20:46] <Bashing-om> rOm3O: Most likely not an issue; see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2275310 . [20:46] <ex0r> tomreyn, I am trying to do so, I know for a fact, I installed it with dpkg or aptitude, and although dpkg shows that there are remaining packages, aptitude doesnt. So now I have no idea how to remove the remaining packages. [20:46] <ex0r> hmm dpkg now says no packages found as well [20:47] <ex0r> ex0r@justin-computer:~$ dpkg -l \*mate*\ | grep i [20:47] <ex0r> dpkg-query: no packages found matching *mate* [20:47] <tomreyn> ex0r: please show the output of: dpkg -l '*mate*' [20:48] <ex0r> let me pastebin it [20:48] <ex0r> http://pastebin.com/mqHkb2Jm [20:49] <tomreyn> ex0r: so you still have plenty of mate related packages installed [20:49] <ex0r> can I run a dpkg command to remove them all? apt-get says none can be found [20:50] <conorMcGregor9> theres a shortcut to show desktop? [20:51] <tomreyn> ex0r: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get purge --remove '^mate.*' '^libmate.*' [20:51] <conorMcGregor9> tomaw, whats the ^ do there? [20:52] <MonkeyDust> conorMcGregor9 I was away... in 14.04, you can install cairo-dock [20:52] <conorMcGregor9> tomreyn* [20:52] <tomreyn> matches beginning of package name [20:52] <conorMcGregor9> yeah thanks MonkeyDust [20:52] <ex0r> using that command brings me to another prompt, like its awaiting more params [20:53] <tomreyn> ex0r: can we see that? [20:53] <ex0r> ex0r@justin-computer:~$ sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get purge --remove '^mate.*' '^libmate.* [20:53] <ex0r> > [20:53] <tomreyn> you missed the trailing ' [20:53] <ex0r> just forgot to copy it [20:53] <ex0r> its there [20:54] <ex0r> hmm it went that time [20:54] <ex0r> looks like its removing them now finally [20:54] <conorMcGregor9> how can i make a desktop shortcut to an executable in a folder? [20:54] <ex0r> im logged into mate though, not sure how thats gonna work [20:54] <conorMcGregor9> the executable requires other files in that folder to run [20:55] <Bashing-om> TJ-: update: ex0r :: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11716377/ ; mate is not un-installed. He is working on it . [20:55] <tomreyn> ex0r: your dektop will likely fail shortly [20:55] <ex0r> ha [20:55] <ex0r> which means I will no longer be able to IRC [20:55] <ex0r> hmm nope it went [20:55] <tomreyn> ex0r: well not that soon, but soon [20:56] <ex0r> lol [20:56] <ex0r> mate is uninstalled now [20:56] <tomreyn> ex0r: i wasn't aware you're currently using irc on this computer [20:56] <ex0r> ill jump on my laptop, give me 2 secs [20:56] <tomreyn> good plan there [20:57] <conorMcGregor9> theres a way to ungroup the windows when alt + tabbing? [20:57] <ex0r> Okay, whats the next step? [20:57] <tomreyn> ex0r: restart lightdm [20:58] <ex0r> using sudo service lightdm restart I am now sitting at a black screen [20:58] <tomreyn> ex0r: sudo service lightdm restart [20:59] <tomreyn> whoops, well let's try installing unity again [20:59] <ex0r> okay [21:00] <tomreyn> ex0r: sudo apt-get install --reinstall unity ubuntu-desktop [21:00] <ex0r> how do I get off this black screen? [21:00] <tomreyn> ex0r: ctrl-alt-f1 [21:00] <ex0r> hmm nope [21:00] <ex0r> ill restart and hit escape at grub [21:00] <bekks> Try booting using nomodeset [21:01] <bekks> !nomodeset | ex0r [21:01] <tomreyn> bekks: it used to work, but i guess it might still help [21:01] <ex0r> im booting into recoveryt [21:02] <ex0r> says both are at the newest version [21:02] <TJ-> ex0r: Bashing-om So ... "CRITICAL: session_get_login1_session_id: assertion 'session != NULL' failed" [21:03] <tomreyn> ex0r: you ran it with --reinstall ? [21:03] <ex0r> yes [21:03] <ex0r> wait no, sorry [21:03] <ex0r> just did [21:03] <ex0r> okay its donew [21:03] <ex0r> done* [21:04] <tomreyn> ex0r: too fast. can i see input and output pleasE? [21:04] <ex0r> its an 8 core processor with 32 gigs of ram... it doesnt take long to install anything [21:05] <ex0r> i dont have a way to show the output [21:05] <ex0r> input was sudo apt-get install --reinstall unity ubuntu-desktop [21:05] <TJ-> ex0r: Please try "sudo rm /var/cache/lightdm/dmrc/ex0r.dmrc" [21:06] <ex0r> TJ-: no such file [21:06] <Bashing-om> TJ-: Yeah, caught that too . OP advised. awaiting results after mate purge, and attempt to re-install the ubuntu desktop . In progress at this time . [21:07] <TJ-> ex0r: Bashing-om OK, that's one less then. That file usually contains the Session to use and might be set to a non-existent session [21:08] <ex0r> restarting after reinstalling desktop and unity, let me see if its fixed [21:08] <tomreyn> ex0r: there was less than a minute between "just did" and "okay its done". it should have reinstalled about 190 packages on your hard disk. even with these PC specs i dont think it would be that fast. [21:09] <ex0r> tomreyn: it installed four packages total [21:09] <tomreyn> but restarting wont make things worse. [21:09] <ex0r> two, sorry [21:10] <ex0r> it downloaded a bunch, but only installed two [21:10] <tomreyn> hmm, maybe it's actually my fault there [21:10] <tomreyn> let's purge those packages and lightdm before you re-run that command [21:11] <ex0r> ok [21:11] <TJ-> tomreyn: "ubuntu-desktop" is only a placeholder it doesn't contain much itself. --reinstall won't force that package's dependencies to be installed too [21:11] <TJ-> ex0r: The next change to try is to move aside the user-specific config values that are stored in the user directory. Login at a VT then do "mv $HOME/.cache $HOME/.cache.backup; mv $HOME/.config $HOME/.cofig.backup" then try to login from the Greeter. If that works we can look at the entries in the user config to identify the cause. [21:12] <TJ-> ex0r: correct my spelling mistake of "cofig.backup" if you do that :) [21:12] <tomreyn> TJ-: right, that's my mistake there, i wasn't sure about the dependencies [21:13] <tomreyn> ex0r: maybe try TJ-'s approach, it can be better than mine. [21:13] <ex0r> doing it now [21:14] <ex0r> although now im getting stuck at trying to mount my sd card reader [21:14] <osman> #newbiecontest [21:15] <tomreyn> ex0r: that's needed for? [21:15] <ex0r> tomreyn: nothing, its installed in my desktop. Im not getting the errors anymore, just a screen that says 'starting version 219' [21:15] <ex0r> with a blinking cursor [21:16] <ex0r> im about ready to insert the damn live cd and reinstall the damn thing, this is ridiculous. [21:17] <tomreyn> cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager [21:17] <ex0r> yep, just sitting here.. blinking cursor, not moving at all [21:17] <tomreyn> http://askubuntu.com/questions/614198/starting-version-219-bug-after-the-15-04-update [21:17] <tomreyn> ctrl-alt-f1 should get you a login [21:19] <ex0r> k i am logged in [21:19] <tomreyn> cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager [21:19] <ex0r> says /usr/sbin/lightdm [21:20] <tomreyn> okay. the message can actually be ignored [21:21] <ex0r> okay, but it doesnt proceed past that point [21:21] <ex0r> it sat at that screen from the time I told you it was doing it until you told me how to get to a login screen [21:21] <tomreyn> did you do what TJ suggested, yet? [21:21] <ex0r> yes [21:22] <tomreyn> okay purge, then reinstall (2 steps) lightdm [21:22] <tomreyn> actually purge, then install lightdm [21:23] <ex0r> apt-get install --purge lightdm? [21:24] <tomreyn> sudo apt-get purge '.*lightdm.*' && sudo apt-get install lightdm [21:24] <ex0r> its going [21:24] <ex0r> done [21:25] <tomreyn> got anything graphical, yet? [21:25] <ex0r> im still in the terminal window [21:25] <tomreyn> ctrl-alt-f7 [21:25] <ex0r> nope [21:25] <ex0r> still at the starting version 219 screen [21:25] <tomreyn> back to f1 then [21:26] <ex0r> with the error: /dev/sdc: No medium found error [21:26] <ex0r> k [21:26] <tomreyn> TJ-: any suggestions? [21:26] <tomreyn> lightdm doesn't seem to start even after reinstalling it [21:26] <tomreyn> after purge + install, that is [21:27] <makara> hi. I've just installed 15.05 on a Dell Vostro and the networking icon doesn't display in the taskbar [21:27] <ex0r> it says on that page, for that guy anyway, it took a while to boot up, let me leave it sit for a few [21:27] <makara> networking is on and wireless is active [21:27] <miheerdew> Does anyone know a way to sync iphone/ipad in Ubuntu 14.04? More specifically I would like to sync app data. Has someone used itunes with wine successfully for this? [21:29] <ex0r> nope [21:29] <ex0r> nothing so far [21:29] <ObrienDave> reboot? [21:29] <ex0r> i did [21:29] <ex0r> takes me back to the screen with nothing [21:29] <xangua> miheerdew: short answer is use a windows install(real or virtual) [21:29] <ex0r> ?nomodeset [21:29] <tomreyn> ex0r: to put this whole thing into contect: this is taking so long because you followed a how-to which was apparently instructing you to do stuff that's not supported. and we don't have this how-to handy and can only guess bblindly what may be going wrong. either that or the mate packages in 15.04 are not actually compatible to the other desktops, but i kind of doubt that. [21:30] <ex0r> tomreyn: the guide I used showed how to setup rdp using mate as the desktop. It was a quick 3-4 paragraph guide that used aptitude to install mate [21:30] <ex0r> and i wish i still had the guide [21:31] <tomreyn> it could possibly have helped. now you'll need to review log files [21:31] <miheerdew> xangua: Hmm. I guess that will be the last option. Don't want to buy a windows distribution [21:32] <ex0r> im looking for it now [21:32] <TJ-> I take it things aren't going well? [21:34] <miheerdew> xangua: At some point of time I guess you could do it directly do it using Ubuntu [21:34] <ex0r> nope [21:34] <tomreyn> TJ- his greeter isnt starting up [21:34] <xangua> miheerdew: that would be up to Apple to decide, Ubuntu has been able to mount iOS devices since 2010 [21:35] <tomreyn> TJ-: that's after: sudo apt-get purge '.*lightdm.*' && sudo apt-get install lightdm [21:35] <ex0r> tomreyn: okay, it was a video tutorial I used. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1ay7toiJ6k I did this, but I used apt-get install to install mate [21:35] <ex0r> and then I used the tutorial for the xrdp stuff [21:37] <TJ-> ex0r: Does a manual "text" mode (edit GRUB kernel command line) get to a regular VT login? If so, if the PC has networking too at that point, we can use pastebinit to collect information and do controlled tests of starting/stopping the display manager [21:37] <miheerdew> xangua: I am able to mount it as a storage device, but not able to access the applications folder. [21:37] <ex0r> TJ-: I can login using ctrl+alt+f1 [21:37] <ex0r> and I can also get in via recovery [21:37] <tomreyn> ex0r: try this: sudo apt-get install lightdm-greeter [21:38] <miheerdew> xangua: Donno, when will apple make things simpler. [21:38] <ex0r> says it has no candidates [21:38] <TJ-> ex0r: OK ... then at a VT you can do "sudo service lightdm start" and see how it goes. If it fails, you can review the /var/log/lightdm/ log files with 'less' (the system pager) [21:38] <ex0r> there is aunity-greeter though [21:39] <ex0r> TJ-: it loads up using that, but it says at the starting version 219 screen [21:39] <ex0r> stays* [21:39] <ObrienDave> !info lightdm-greeter [21:39] <TJ-> ex0r: tomreyn The greeter requires is unity-greeter [21:39] <ex0r> ?nomodeset [21:40] <ex0r> !info nomodeset [21:40] <ObrienDave> nomodeset is a GRUB switch [21:40] <TJ-> ex0r: "version 219" - what is that from, do we know? maybe the GPU driver? [21:41] <tomreyn> said to be irrelevant https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1432171 [21:41] <ex0r> there was a bug that was posted by tomreyn about it, but they said that its because lightdm isnt used. Mine is using it. [21:42] <TJ-> ex0r: OK, so that message is the left-over on the VT of systemd startup... nothing to do with X or lightdm, so that tells us that X isn't even starting. That means "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" is the first place to look [21:42] <TJ-> ex0r: Can you do "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log" ? [21:43] <ex0r> yup http://paste.ubuntu.com/11716655/ [21:44] <TJ-> ex0r: Well that answers that question! The video drivers have been removed from the kernel and possibly the system started with "nomodeset" too, disabling the DRI [21:44] <ex0r> why are they removed? [21:45] <ex0r> I havent touched the kernel [21:45] <TJ-> ex0r: I have to focus back on my kernel debugging here, but the others should be able to help you solve that issue so you can move on [21:45] <TJ-> ex0r: Those purges you did maybe forced some packages out. Anyhow, fix those issues so X0rg.0.log looks healthy and you might get on better :) [21:47] <ex0r> running apt-get install fglrx right now [21:48] <ex0r> thank you, TJ- I will see if I can somewhat handle it from here [21:48] <ex0r> and you too, tomreyn [21:49] * tomreyn points out how he suggested running "sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall" a good while ago [21:49] <ex0r> I did that earlier [21:49] <ex0r> and it installed one, but its possible during the other stuff that it removed them again [21:49] <tomreyn> oh that's good to know [21:50] <ex0r> nope [21:50] <ex0r> im back to the login screen, but still cant log in to ubuntu using unity [21:51] * ObrienDave ponders if an OS re-install would have been easier [21:51] <TJ-> ex0r: OK ... is this with the $HOME/,{cache,config} directories moved ? [21:51] <ex0r> yes [21:52] <TJ-> ex0r: right; I think it's time to investigate that xrdp stuff you did since that would be an obvious interference to the session if it is still there [21:52] <ex0r> it wont even let me log in as a guest [21:52] <ex0r> it just does that ubuntu drum roll, a black screen, and back to login [21:53] <TJ-> ex0r: What does this report "apt-cache policy xrdp" ? [21:53] <ex0r> hold on, booting into recoverty [21:53] <ex0r> recovery* [21:53] <azizLIGHT> how do i capture all the notify-send that have been sent? i want to also mirror them to my phone [21:53] <TJ-> azizLIGHT: I'd suspect you need a dbus listener registered [21:53] <ex0r> shows 2 entries [21:54] <bjrohan> Hello all. Up until a few minutes ago, my wifi worked properly (running 14.04). i restarted my computer, and for some reason I am unable to turn wifi on. Any suggestions? [21:54] <TJ-> ex0r: does it show xdrp is installed right now? [21:54] <azizLIGHT> TJ-: maybe there is some query i can run to see last notify-sends... and then keep track of it, and when something changes, send the new one to phone [21:54] <ex0r> yes [21:54] <ex0r> installed 0.6.1-2 [21:55] <TJ-> bjrohan: did you accidentally move the hardware radio kill switch on the side of the PC? [21:55] <TJ-> ex0r: Remove it. [21:55] <ex0r> okay its gone [21:55] <TJ-> ex0r: OK: "sudo service lightdm restart" [21:56] <ex0r> gotta restart, I was in recovery [21:56] <lyndel> hey guys am having a minor problem on my labtop on ubuntu i have a sd card inserted in the SD card reader but ubuntu cant even detect it? on windows its detecting it but asking me to formate which i wont do as o know i have data on that sd card but for now why cant ubuntu detect my sdcard? [21:56] <lyndel> ubuntu 15,04 [21:56] <TJ-> ex0r: you can just switch to user mode with "telinit 2" [21:56] <bjrohan> TJ I have an HP that I don't believe has a harware switch. Tuning on the keyboard switch (f12) doesn't do anything [21:56] <ex0r> doh [21:57] <TJ-> bjrohan: Get to a terminal command-line and check using "sudo rfkill list" [21:57] <bjrohan> TJ nothing comes up, it just returns a prompt [21:57] <ex0r> okay, removing xrdp did not appear to do it. Still doing the same thing. [21:58] <bjrohan> TJ-: nothing comes up, it just returns a prompt [21:58] <TJ-> lyndel: The reader device probably needs a kernel driver loading to support it. To identify which you'd need to know the specific chipset used in the reader and its controller. I'm guessing something on the MMC side [21:58] <TJ-> bjrohan: what make/model is the PC? [21:58] <TJ-> ex0r: Right, but its removed one large variable from the equation :) [21:58] <ex0r> yea [21:59] <ex0r> and for some reason press ctrl+alt+f1 on the login screen takes me to a black screen [22:00] <lyndel> weird [22:01] <lyndel> ex0r u getting blank screen at both bootup and after logout? like i did? [22:01] <ex0r> lyndel: no [22:02] <lyndel> and your forced to do lightdm restart to get it working? [22:02] <lyndel> oh ok [22:02] <bjrohan> TJ-: It is an HP envy dv7 [22:02] <lyndel> Tj sorry just seeing ur reply [22:03] <lyndel> well the sd card reader is inbuilt into the labtop and i thought ubuntu would install the drivers for it so how can i install it myself? [22:04] <lyndel> tj also ubuntu is confusing i cant see all my hardware in settings and the drivers is there no program simular to device manager on windows on linux? so i can see a complete list of all my hardware? [22:05] <lyndel> TJ [22:05] <ex0r> Ok, im ready to go back to ubuntu 14, im just going to reinsert the livecd and reinstall it [22:06] <lyndel> tj? [22:06] <OerHeks> lyndel, lspci should show it, but i know some sdcardreaders are not supported, especially when there are 2 available [22:07] <ObrienDave> lyndel, type tj then hit TAB to complete the proper nick [22:07] <lyndel> i did but he quit but anyway to get the drivers? [22:07] <Bashing-om> lyndel: Looks like TJ-'s test box crashed " [email protected]] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] ' I expect he will return soonest . [22:07] <lyndel> i really need it to work on linux [22:08] <lyndel> ok [22:08] <ObrienDave> ah so, calling the missing TJ- ;P [22:08] <lyndel> lol [22:08] <lyndel> but serioulys tho how to get the missing drivers? [22:11] <ObrienDave> sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall [22:11] <InterNIC> lyndel: what type of laptop, is it a netbook or what? [22:11] <lyndel> Dell [22:11] <lyndel> oh [22:12] <lyndel> labtop dell [22:13] <lyndel> InterNIC, sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall dont work [22:14] <lyndel> guys [22:14] <InterNIC> lyndel: I didn't tell you that [22:14] <ObrienDave> it was suggested earlier for another driver issue [22:16] <lyndel> ohhh [22:16] <lyndel> InterNIC, lyndel@lyndel-Inspiron-6000:~$ lspci | grep Card [22:16] <lyndel> 03:01.0 CardBus bridge: Ricoh Co Ltd RL5c476 II (rev b3) [22:16] <lyndel> lyndel@lyndel-Inspiron-6000:~$ [22:17] <lyndel> so it is detected then? [22:22] <lyndel> guys? [22:23] <rOm3O> hi [22:23] <DWSR> Hey all, I have an application that's complaining about no free disk space, but df is reporting as follows: /dev/sda2 57G 24G 31G 44% / [22:25] <bekks> DWSR: So whats the full output of "df -h"? Put it into a pastebin please. [22:25] <EriC^^> DWSR: which application? [22:26] <DWSR> bekks: http://pastebin.com/K31KsiiY [22:26] <DWSR> EriC^^: It's the MusicBrainz Server setup scripts. It's dumping info into Postgres. [22:26] <bekks> DWSR: Did you edit your paste? [22:26] <lyndel> guys? [22:26] <DWSR> bekks: Just removed my username from it. That's all. [22:27] <bekks> DWSR: Your username isnt confidential :) [22:27] <OerHeks> lyndel, so it is a sdcard partition issue? what does "sudo fdisk -l "say? [22:27] <DWSR> bekks: Pretend I'm wearing a tinfoil hat. [22:27] <lyndel> oh wait [22:29] <DWSR> bekks: Regardless, that's not really relevant. df is pretty clearly showing me that there's free space on / [22:29] <regedit> so yeah, i absolutely, positively, irrefutably, cannot succeed to setup a Windows + Ubuntu dual boot on this laptoppp..................... [22:30] <EriC^^> regedit: why not? [22:30] <regedit> EriC^^: not sure, but some things seem to point in the direction of BIOS/UEFI issues [22:30] <lyndel> DWSR, http://paste.opensuse.org/27370315 [22:30] <EriC^^> regedit: what happens? [22:31] <lyndel> OerHeks, http://paste.opensuse.org/27370315 [22:31] <regedit> EriC^^: so bios is set to UEFI enabled. Windows installs OK. then during ubuntu install, i get a weird warning [22:31] <EriC^^> regedit: what warning? [22:31] <regedit> EriC^^: something to the effect of "...the other OS seems to have been installed with legacy bios not UEFI, you might not be able to boot to it..." [22:32] <EriC^^> oh wow [22:32] <Ben64> lyndel: what version of linux do you have [22:32] <franc> slt [22:32] <regedit> EriC^^: sure enough, after completing install, ubuntu boots fine, but windows is unreachable [22:32] <DWSR> regedit: Yes. You installed Windows 8 in legacy mode, I would expect. [22:32] <OerHeks> funny, paste.opensuse .. please use paste.ubuntu.com [22:32] <EriC^^> regedit: which ubuntu is this? [22:32] <lyndel> Ben64 ubuntu 15.04 [22:32] <regedit> but did I? UEFI was enabled in BIOS! [22:32] <DWSR> regedit: Not the only requirement to get Windows 8 to install in UEFI mode. :D [22:32] <EriC^^> regedit: ok, hold on' [22:32] <DWSR> (I've tripped up on this as well. [22:32] <regedit> Kubuntu 15.04 [22:32] <regedit> x64 [22:32] <EriC^^> regedit: are you in ubuntu right now? [22:33] <Ben64> lyndel: unplug the card, wait 20 seconds, plug the card back in, pastebin the output of "dmesg" [22:33] <regedit> EriC^^: liveCD yes [22:33] <regedit> DWSR: oh?... [22:33] <OerHeks> lydelno partition there, so get a recovery tool like photorec/recuva to see if there is something to see [22:33] <lyndel> Ben64, ok wait [22:33] <EriC^^> regedit: ok, type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999 [22:34] <EriC^^> is there any software that can make png's into a gif? openshot can make a video to a png's but how can i make them into a gif? [22:34] <ObrienDave> animated gif? [22:34] <regedit> EriC^^: uh.... http://termbin.com/naui ? [22:35] <EriC^^> ObrienDave: yes [22:35] <regedit> DWSR: what are the other requirements? [22:35] <EriC^^> regedit: ok, type ls -l /sys/firmware/efi [22:36] <regedit> EriC^^: ok, there are some files listed [22:36] <lyndel> Ben64, that wont work output is too big to post online too huge [22:36] <EriC^^> ok, well you're booted in uefi mode right now, but both windows and ubuntu are both installed in legacy mode [22:36] <DWSR> regedit: http://www.eightforums.com/installation-setup/25561-windows-8-install-uefi-mode.html <-- links for Windows 7 and 8 are in the second or third post down [22:36] <EriC^^> regedit: [22:36] <ObrienDave> !pastebin | lyndel [22:37] <lyndel> i said its too large to paste al get a warning [22:37] <SubCool> ok, im banging my head over ehre. Can someone help me find softare ro something that i can use to sort my pictures? Their filenames are of the date they were taken. Im looking to have them categorized into folders based on the date (their filename) SHotwell keeps crashing, and picasa is acting up as usual. [22:37] <EriC^^> regedit: boot into ubuntu normally, and not the live usb [22:37] <regedit> EriC^^: this particular time round, i tried installing them both in legacy mode (i had read that that could help), still no luck i guess [22:37] <EriC^^> regedit: you probably need to make a custom entry for windows and you'll be good [22:37] <Ben64> lyndel: well use a better paste service, not sure why you used opensuse [22:37] <ObrienDave> lyndel, you did not read the factoid [22:38] <EriC^^> regedit: when you installed both in uefi mode, only ubuntu booted? [22:38] <regedit> EriC^^: yup, DWSR seems to be of the opinion that windows did not in fact install as UEFI mode [22:38] <lyndel> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11716839/ ? [22:39] <EriC^^> regedit: it could be so, also the warning message and all, ubuntu is pretty good at picking up the windows .efi file [22:40] <regedit> so i'm currently reading through the page DWSR linked, see what gives... [22:40] <ObrienDave> lyndel, see? that was easy ;P [22:40] <EriC^^> regedit: do you want to reinstall in uefi? or fix it as it is? [22:40] <regedit> i dont mind resinstalling in UEFI [22:40] <Scunizi> Will the "hidden" restore partition for Win 7 remain usable after adding 3 additional partitions for an Ubuntu install? The partition is triggered with the F11 key if that makes a difference.. [22:40] <Decoy_Platypus> Guys, update-grub is freezing on me. I recently upgraded from 14.04 -> 14.10 -> 15.04. Now when I try to run apt-get autoremove to get rid of old kernels, when it gets to the end it tries to update-grub, it freezes after printing that it found Memtest. [22:41] <ObrienDave> Scunizi, yes as long as your ubuntu partitions are all under an extended partition [22:41] <EriC^^> regedit: ok, try to use the live usb right now to create a gpt partition table [22:41] <Ben64> lyndel: doesn't seem like it sees the card [22:41] <TJ-> Decoy_Platypus: has the /boot/ partition run out of space? [22:42] <Decoy_Platypus> TJ-: good question, i'll check [22:42] <Scunizi> ObrienDave: cool.. I was going to use an extended partition anyway.. Thanks for the ingo [22:42] <lyndel> Ben64 what now? [22:42] <ObrienDave> Scunizi, yw [22:42] <TJ-> Decoy_Platypus: if it's removed kernels you'd think there'd be space remaining [22:42] <Ben64> lyndel: get a usb card reader? [22:42] <EriC^^> regedit: type sudo gdisk /dev/sdb [22:42] <lyndel> its inbuilt into the labtop [22:43] <lyndel> what else do i do to fix this? [22:43] <EriC^^> regedit: you there? [22:43] <Decoy_Platypus> TJ-: looks like I dont have a separate /boot partition, and / has plenty [22:44] <Ben64> lyndel: does "ls -l /dev/mmc*" show anything [22:45] <TJ-> Decoy_Platypus: How about if you run it manually: "sudo update-grub" [22:45] <lyndel> Ben64, lyndel@lyndel-Inspiron-6000:~$ ls -l /dev/mmc [22:45] <lyndel> ls: cannot access /dev/mmc: No such file or directory [22:45] <lyndel> lyndel@lyndel-Inspiron-6000:~$ [22:48] <Ben64> lyndel: doesn't see the card [22:48] <TJ-> lyndel: Can you show me: "pastebinit <(lspci -nn)" ? [22:48] <OerHeks> lyndel, so windows does not see it, linux also, try a recovery tool like photorec/recuva to see if there is something to see [22:48] <lyndel> Ben64, this will work? is it true about ubuntu disabling it by default? http://vasanthkg.blogspot.com/2011/06/howto-read-your-sd-card-with-your.html [22:48] <lyndel> Tj ur back ok wait [22:48] <Ben64> lyndel: not true [22:48] <Decoy_Platypus> TJ-: same thing. It finds several kernels, then memtest and just sits there [22:48] <TJ-> lyndel: in and out; debugging kernel builds :) [22:48] <TJ-> Decoy_Platypus: That's good! Being able to reproduce it means you can trace it [22:48] <Decoy_Platypus> TJ-: wait, this time it worked.. [22:48] <Decoy_Platypus> TJ-: sorry, I had run it before and it locked up again [22:48] <TJ-> Decoy_Platypus: The usual cause is the system thinks there is a disk drive connected that has gone away so hangs up waiting for it forever. Does this still happen after a reboot ? [22:48] <lyndel> Tj http://paste.ubuntu.com/11716874/ [22:49] <TJ-> lyndel: OK, so the PC has a Ricoh R5C552 controller [22:49] <lyndel> tj yep [22:49] <Decoy_Platypus> TJ-: that sounds plausible. This is an old machine that has been dormant for a while. I may have moved a disk from it a while back. [22:50] <TJ-> lyndel: Mine has a Ricoh R5C822 so we can compare to some extent [22:50] <Decoy_Platypus> TJ-: I'll try a reboot now [22:50] <lyndel> tj lyndel@lyndel-Inspiron-6000:~$ lspci | grep Card [22:50] <lyndel> 03:01.0 CardBus bridge: Ricoh Co Ltd RL5c476 II (rev b3) [22:50] <lyndel> ok [22:50] <regedit> whoops, bad connection over qwebirc... [22:50] <regedit> EriC^^ / DWSR did I miss anything? [22:51] <regedit> oh did DWSR disconnect [22:51] <lyndel> Ben64, u read the site the solution there will work? [22:51] <TJ-> lyndel: show us "pastebinit <(lspci -s 03:01.2 -nnvvvv)" [22:51] <EriC^^> regedit: i was saying you could make a fresh gpt partition first, then try installing windows in uefi mode [22:51] <EriC^^> regedit: are you in the live usb? [22:51] <Ben64> lyndel: no [22:52] <regedit> EriC^^: yes i am now in live USB, and I think BIOS is currently UEFI enabled, I *think*.... [22:53] <lyndel> tj that command not working u sure its typed good? pastebinit <(lspci -s? [22:53] <EriC^^> regedit: ok, do you need any data on the hdd? [22:54] <regedit> EriC^^: nope [22:54] <EriC^^> anybody know anything about the png to gif converter? [22:54] <lyndel> Ben64, read the site tell me if its a ood solution or not [22:54] <lyndel> good [22:54] <Ben64> lyndel: pretty sure i said no like thrice already [22:54] <TJ-> lyndel: The number after the "-s" is the bus number of the device, taken from your pastebin ... try taking 1 'v' off the end :) [22:54] <EriC^^> regedit: ok, type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999 [22:55] <regedit> EriC^^: http://termbin.com/qs6j [22:56] <ObrienDave> EriC^^, have you tried GIMP? [22:56] <lyndel> Tj http://paste.ubuntu.com/11716899/ [22:57] <Decoy_Platypus> TJ-: After the reboot I was able to run apt-get autoremove with no problems. Thanks for the help [22:57] <regedit> EriC^^: if I understand correctly i also have some steps to take for installing windows as UEFI http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/15458-uefi-bootable-usb-flash-drive-create-windows.html [22:57] <TJ-> lyndel: good news, the kernel driver is there: sdhci-pci [22:57] <EriC^^> ObrienDave: nope [22:57] <lyndel> tj so why it wont detect my card then? [22:58] <TJ-> lyndel: what type is the card, and what capacity? [22:58] <OerHeks> lyndel, same reason as your windows didn't detect it? [22:58] <EriC^^> ObrienDave: any idea where? [22:58] <EriC^^> regedit: type sudo gdisk /dev/sdb [22:59] <ObrienDave> EriC^^, nope, let me look [22:59] <lyndel> tj Samsung mirco SD card windows finds it but wont let me use it unless i format but i wonnt as i know there is data on the card [22:59] <regedit> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11716907/ [23:00] <TJ-> lyndel: Have you monitored the kernel log whilst plugging in the SD-Card, in case there are I/O errors reported? "tail -f /var/log/kern.log" [23:00] <EriC^^> regedit: press "o" [23:00] <lyndel> oh wait [23:00] <blz> Hello, I just did chmod 750 mydirectory and the file permissions are now set to drwxr-x---. I thought 5 meant rx (and permissions-calculator.org seems to support this hypothesis). What am I doing wrong? [23:00] <TJ-> lyndel: But what type is it? SDHC, SDXC, etc, and what capacity? [23:01] <bekks> blz: 5 means r+x [23:01] <bekks> blz: whats your issue with it? [23:01] <regedit> EriC^^: This option deletes all partitions and creates a new protective MBR. Proceed? (Y/N) I'm guessing confirm? :) [23:01] <blz> bekks, so shouldnt I have drwxr-xr-x ? [23:01] <TJ-> lyndel: That Ricoh controller is quite old and may not support the SDXC standard required to read higher capacity cards [23:01] <regedit> EriC^^: i won't confirm confirmations with you from this point onward, if that works better [23:01] <ObrienDave> EriC^^, GIMP has an export animated GIF function. i have no clue how to use it [23:01] <bekks> blz: No. 750 is drwxr-x--- [23:02] <bekks> blz: 755 would be drwxr-xr-x [23:02] <bekks> !permissions | blz [23:02] <blz> bekks, oh my god I've been reading file permissions wrongly for years... [23:02] <blz> good lord... [23:02] * blz bangs forehead on table [23:02] <blz> thanks, bekks [23:03] <blz> Thank god I'm not a professional sysadmin [23:03] <rOm3O> lol blz :D [23:03] <EriC^^> blz: read is 4, write is 2, execute is 1, so read+execute means 4+1=5, first digit is for user, then group, then others [23:03] <ObrienDave> we would tend to agree ;P [23:03] <rOm3O> you are so fuffy blz [23:03] <EriC^^> blz: if there are 4 digits, like 2755, the first digit is for setuid setgid, sticky bit, etc. [23:04] <bekks> blz: And if there are three additional digits, those are for ACL. [23:04] <EriC^^> ObrienDave: interesting, how do you get there though, i can't seem to find it [23:04] <blz> Yeah yeah it all makes sense now. I was just off-by-one :/ I stupidly assumed the dashes in, say, drwxr-xr-x were separators [23:04] <blz> but they're not... [23:05] <EriC^^> regedit: no, confirming is fine [23:05] <lyndel> Tj http://paste.ubuntu.com/11716921/ [23:05] <EriC^^> regedit: yes press ok to create a new protective mbr [23:05] <regedit> EriC^^: OK then :) Command (? for help): [23:05] <EriC^^> ok, press "w" to write the new table [23:05] <ObrienDave> EriC^^, open an image. file, export as, select GIF, options show animated stuff. iirc [23:06] <ObrienDave> i'll look again [23:06] <lyndel> tj is that bad? [23:06] <TJ-> lyndel: There you go then, that explains it. So... what type is the SD Card and what capacity? If it's larger than 8 or 16GB it may use a revision of the SD specifications the controller can't understasnd [23:06] <regedit> EriC^^: Final checks complete. About to write GPT data. THIS WILL OVERWRITE EXISTING PARTITIONS!! Do you want to proceed? (Y/N): [23:07] <EriC^^> regedit: yes [23:07] <regedit> EriC^^: OK; writing new GUID partition table (GPT) to /dev/sdb. Warning: The kernel is still using the old partition table. The new table will be used at the next reboot. The operation has completed successfully. [23:07] <lyndel> tj Samsung Micro SD card Adapter with 2GB micro SD [23:08] <EriC^^> ObrienDave: ah i see, thanks, no idea how to use it too though :> [23:08] <ObrienDave> your guess is as good as mine ;P [23:08] <TJ-> lyndel: Does the card have a printed symbol on like "SDHC" or "SDXC" ? [23:09] <TJ-> lyndel: 2GB card shouldn't be an issue, but the interface might be [23:09] <EriC^^> regedit: ok, reboot and try to install windows [23:09] <TJ-> lyndel: Did you say another device is able to read the contents of the card correctly? [23:09] <lyndel> tj sorry no its not there [23:10] <EriC^^> regedit: make sure uefi is selected in the bios, and btw how are you installing windows? from usb? [23:11] <lyndel> tj i never tryed a next device and windows detects it but wont let me use it unless its formated so i know it works [23:11] <TJ-> lyndel: Windows telling you that means it can't read the card and thinks it is unformatted. Do you have a smart phone that can read the card? I'm guessing right now the card itself is damaged [23:12] <regedit> EriC^^: good questions, yes USB drive. Actually I need to rewrite the USB drive again now... might need to boot back into ubuntu live for that... [23:13] <EriC^^> regedit: are you using a live usb for ubuntu? or cd? [23:13] <regedit> EriC^^: I have the ISO / files of the Windows installation on an external drive, I need to put it on a USB now, should be straightforward from within ubuntu live? [23:13] <regedit> EriC^^: live USB [23:13] <regedit> EriC^^: short on devices here, currently it has ubuntu on it, i need to write windows to it... [23:14] <regedit> EriC^^: i do have nother internal drive though, but I may have just wiped it now too [23:14] <EriC^^> ok, that means windows should boot into uefi since ubuntu is [23:14] <n-st> hi, i've got a bit of an issue with the virtualbox-qt package from the trusty-updates repo (after installing the current virtualbox version from oracle's repo): [23:14] <n-st> virtualbox-dkms : Depends: virtualbox (>= 4.3.10-dfsg-1ubuntu5) [23:14] <n-st> virtualbox-qt : Depends: virtualbox (= 4.3.10-dfsg-1ubuntu5) [23:14] <EriC^^> ( i mean without needing to set something in the bios ) [23:15] <regedit> EriC^^: apparently there's more to it http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/15458-uefi-bootable-usb-flash-drive-create-windows.html [23:15] <n-st> is there some way to override that incorrect fixed dependency of virtualbox-qt? [23:15] <EriC^^> regedit: yeah, it's not that straightforward [23:15] <EriC^^> regedit: i've never done it myself but i was going to once [23:16] <lyndel> tj wait am trying it on my digi cam [23:17] <EriC^^> regedit: it should be ok [23:17] <lyndel> tj a next sdcard does work so maybe it is damaged [23:17] <ObrienDave> sdcards don't last forever [23:18] <TJ-> lyndel: I've seen a lot of the older SD cards do that... they can be very sensitive to static discharge [23:18] <ObrienDave> the one in my phone went into read only mode. had to buy a new one [23:19] <Flynn> Could anyone help me with a screen brightness problems? I've tried everything and if my charging cable is not plugged in, my screen dims after 10 seconds of no movement without fail. very annoying! [23:19] <TJ-> ObrienDave: that's when the wear levelling reaches its limit [23:19] <lyndel> tj thanks alot for your help i guess i have to get a new one this suckss all the data is lost now [23:19] <TJ-> lyndel: yeah... always backup your backups :) [23:20] <B0g4r7> EriC^^, you're trying to write a Windows install media to a USB stick? I did that the other week. I used unetbootin and it worked for me. [23:20] <wakennn> hi quick question [23:20] <EriC^^> B0g4r7: regedit is [23:20] <B0g4r7> er...yeah. [23:20] <wakennn> can i create a minimal UEFI installation with Ubuntu? [23:20] <regedit> oh thanks! [23:20] <wakennn> the minimal CD is BIOS only [23:20] <EriC^^> B0g4r7: were you booting it in uefi mode? [23:20] <EriC^^> not sure if that matters [23:20] <B0g4r7> EriC^^, I don't know. Probably not. [23:20] <TJ-> wakennn: Use the server install media [23:21] <regedit> EriC^^: rebooting into ubuntu live to write the windows stuff to the drive, hope i survive this... :) [23:21] <wakennn> TJ-: I looked at it, how does it handle preinstalled ESP from Windows? does it use GRUb2? [23:21] <B0g4r7> Hmm. Power just went out here for a couple seconds. The UPS did its thing and I'm still online. [23:21] <EriC^^> regedit: :) [23:22] <wakennn> TJ-: oh and it still can do everything normal Ubuntu can do, right? PPA's, new kernels [23:22] <TJ-> wakennn: Yes, it's standard GRUB install [23:22] <lyndel> tj take care and thanks again :) [23:23] <TJ-> wakennn: About the only difference to minimal is it contains a bunch of server specific packages which you can optionally choose to install [23:23] <wakennn> TJ-: and does it autodetect and use Windows' ESP? [23:23] <wakennn> TJ-: and PPA's I can use the same? [23:23] <wakennn> and get new Kernels/cutting edge this way? [23:24] <TJ-> wakennn: if the media boots in UEFI mode then it'll install in EFI mode. The ESP doesn't belong to Windows, it belongs to the firmware [23:27] <wakennn> TJ-: I might need kernel 4.0 for some hardware and don't want any unity/gnome: is server good for this? I see the kernel included in 15.04 is 3.19... [23:28] <TJ-> !mainline | You can use a mainline kernel [23:32] <wakennn> should I dd /dev/zero a prvious OS usb or can I dd over it TJ- ? [23:32] <wakennn> thanks for all your help by the way [23:34] <Flynn> Could anyone help me with a screen brightness problems? I've tried everything and if my charging cable is not plugged in, my screen dims after 10 seconds of no movement without fail. very annoying! [23:34] <Hazzah> Hmmm [23:36] <TJ-> wakennn: Writing to it will overwrite. However, depending on a device's underlying technology if you write all zeros first the device may remap any bad sectors it detects (commonly hard disks use 0 as the 'empty' marker) but NAND Flash uses 0xFF (255) although the controller may flip that so zero is the correct value. 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[23:40] <TJ-> Flannel: you handled it quickly, no need to apologise :) [23:40] <ObrienDave> ROFL [23:40] <OerHeks> Thanks. [23:41] <TJ-> I guess that's what happens when daftykins says "Hello" :) [23:41] <daftykins> *nod* [23:41] <ObrienDave> dang it daftykins! ;P [23:42] <daftykins> i'm sorry, fellow volunteers [23:42] <TJ-> daftykins: for punishment you can finish off bisecting these kernel bugs I'm chasing :) [23:42] <Johnny_Linux> woohoo [23:44] * TJ- is rebooting to test another kernel [23:45] <MichaelTiebesl> ? [23:46] <regedit> EriC^^: uh, don't have the actual windows ISO image handy (I can get it, but maybe I can do without) is it possible to boot windows installation by simply cpying the right files into the drive, and just make the drive bootable or something? [23:46] <daftykins> only EFI boot can be made via file copy [23:46] <daftykins> if the EFI boot image file is present :) [23:46] <Flannel> serenoa: 11.04 is EOL, after things are EOL for a little bit, their archives get removed from the main servers. [23:46] <regedit> oh [23:46] <regedit> daftykins: can I make it EFI boot from within ubuntu? [23:47] <regedit> or do i need to be in windows..... circular dependency... [23:47] <daftykins> regedit: when you say 'copying the right files' - which do you have handy if not an ISO? [23:47] <regedit> daftykins: currently i have the files themselves that are within the ISO, were you to mount it [23:47] <regedit> not the actual original ISO though... [23:47] <daftykins> win7? [23:47] <regedit> 8.1 [23:47] <EriC^^> regedit: no, you need to have a recovery disk, and extract that image [23:47] <regedit> x64 [23:48] <daftykins> regedit: look for /boot/bootx64.efi [23:49] <regedit> daftykins: i find a bit different: /efi/boot/bootx64.efi, /efi/x64.efi, [23:50] <regedit> daftykins: but not directly under /boot [23:50] <daftykins> regedit: my bad yep, i just was checking that. so if you pasted that entire directory tree into the root of a flash drive formatted as FAT, it will boot on an EFI capable system [23:51] <daftykins> regedit: however if you legally own win8 you can download ISOs direct from MS [23:51] <regedit> daftykins: yep i know, slow connection though, so trying to survive without... [23:51] <daftykins> roger that [23:52] <regedit> ah so it needs to be FAT then? is it possible to put that together from here in ubuntu? [23:52] <regedit> FAT or FAT32, or either [23:52] <daftykins> yes, since it involves formatting a drive and copying files :> [23:52] <daftykins> whether your machine is EFI capable is the more iffy bit [23:52] <regedit> daftykins: so - my file structure is fine? no need to move around any of those boot efi stuff? [23:53] <daftykins> possibly. but once you make it, throwing a file here and there isn't much effort [23:53] <regedit> daftykins: well my BIOS does show a UEFI option, and i have successfully installed ubuntu as UEFI, or i'm pretty sure anyway.... [23:53] <daftykins> heh [23:54] <daftykins> !efi [23:54] <daftykins> you can confirm there [23:58] <regedit> uh, new to formatting under linux here, how do i know which sd** is the disk i'm trying to format with mkdosfs ? [23:58] <Flannel> Hi folks. If you're not using a registered nick, you were muted for the past few minutes because of some spam issues. So if people weren't responding, assume it's because you weren't heard and retry. [23:59] <regedit> daftykins: currently the drive is NTFS and contains that file structure, but can't seem to boot to it... [23:59] <Flannel> Also, if you're unregistered, you cannot currently join this channel (due to the aformentioned spam), see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration for information on how to register your nick. [23:59] <regedit> daftykins: does it specifically need to be FAT? [23:59] <daftykins> regedit: because it's not FAT
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2015-06-14-#ubuntu-quality
[14:28] <anahumar> Can a system be reliable but not correct? Or correct but not reliable?
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2015-06-14-#ubuntu-cn
[00:00] <^k^> 新 Shell脚本 • 开机启动应用 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=471276 怎么把一个应用设成开机启动? 启动应用程序首选项下添加, 要命令,这个命令上哪找? zz: 873944287 — 2015-06-14 0:46 [01:02] <^k^> 取新帖 timeout [01:30] <shelling> hello [01:30] <ubrl> shelling:点点点. 21:30 [01:31] <shelling> 点点点是哈? [01:44] <^k^> 暂无新帖 讲个笑话吧: 第一次吃火龙果 : 单纯的大块头男生,第一次吃火龙果,吃了一宿才吃完一个。 这是为什么呢? 因为, 他吐籽…… [01:53] <jiero> shelling, 是对你无用招呼的蔑视 [01:53] <jiero> bu [01:58] <jiero> BuMangHuo, 我决定买二手音箱 - 国产的就好 - [01:58] <luobo> jiero: 要去跳广场舞吗? [01:59] <jiero> luobo, 讨厌多人做一件固定的事情 [01:59] <jiero> luobo, 不管是什么,都反对 [01:59] <luobo> jiero: 这是不对的 [02:00] <luobo> jiero: 大家还一起吃饭呢 [02:00] <jiero> luobo, 对,做同样的事是错误的。 [02:00] <jiero> luobo, 不能让你跟着我一样吃粪便 [02:00] <luobo> jiero: 应该本着娱乐精神 [02:00] <luobo> jiero: 。。。 [02:01] <jiero> luobo, 那根本不是娱乐精神,只是盲从精神 [02:02] <luobo> jiero: 也算是吧,更打游戏似的,什么好玩,大家就都去玩什么 [02:05] <luobo> 有谁用debian的? [02:06] <luobo> debian8 [02:07] <jiero> BuMangHuo, NICOLE 音箱 [02:07] <jiero> 好多东西。 [02:11] <shelling> jiero, 啥意思? [02:13] <jiero> shelling, 这里不习惯打招呼,要打招呼学我这样。 [02:14] <shelling> 怎样? [02:15] * jiero 拜见 BuMangHuo 妹子壕 happyaron 蓉蓉壕 lainme 囡囡 freeflying 首壕 [02:16] <shelling> 。。。。 [02:16] <shelling> jiero, [02:16] <shelling> * [02:27] <^k^> archl: 拜逛逛壕 [02:32] <shelling> 拜拜 [03:24] <^k^> 新 软件推荐 • ubuntu 14.04怎么复制路径 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=471278 1.png 怎么这个改成能复制的路径? zz: 873944287 — 2015-06-14 11:23 [04:28] <Guest89667> nick [04:29] <Guest89667> exit [05:10] <^k^> 暂无新帖 讲个笑话吧: 眼睛在前 : 有一天,天空突然乌云密布,接着是雷声闪电,爸爸见儿子呆呆地望着天空,于是就问:"儿子,你说说为什么我们总是先看见闪电,然后再听见雷声呢?" 儿子:"那还不简单,因为眼睛长在耳朵的前面呗!    [05:11] <bestucan> ^k^: [05:11] <bestucan> ^K^:ren [05:14] <opsnull> list #golang [05:14] <^k^> 新 初学者园地 - 15.04 • Ubuntu 函数库的帮助文档怎样使用 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=471279 在ubuntu下常常会安装-dev 和-doc格式的库,前者安装需要的头文件,后者是帮助文档,请问该怎样使用这些帮助文档,我试着通过man来查看一些帮助文档,可是没有找到对应的doc文档的用 [05:14] <^k^> ─> 法。 zz: wpp — 2015-06-14 13:14 [05:24] <tcstory> 哥哥们,firefox 有mdn,chrome有类似的网站吗? [05:28] <lainme> tcstory: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/ [05:28] <ubrl> ⇪ f: 取标题: no title [05:28] <lainme> tcstory: 看错了。。。 [05:29] <tcstory> lainme: 额.我想找chrome 的 [05:29] <^k^> 取新帖 timeout [06:00] <gfxmode> testtest__: test [06:00] <gfxmode> testtest__: test [07:24] <gfxmode> libircclient-qt很好用 [07:33] <^k^> 新 桌面特效 • 14.04主题 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=471280 哪位大侠能给个主题下载地址? zz: 873944287 — 2015-06-14 15:33 [09:21] <^k^> 新 桌面特效 • 14.04怎么安装主题 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=471281 下载的tar.gz包解压一大堆文件,怎么装? 只有个别是整个文件放到.themes有效的 zz: 873944287 — 2015-06-14 17:19 [09:31] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 你那里你收到多少个dvb-t的台 [11:11] <^k^> 暂无新帖 讲个笑话吧: 信 教 : 从前,有个牧师劝穷人信教。 他问一个穷人:"你死后愿升天堂,还是愿下地狱?" 穷人回答说:"唉,看吧!哪边的玉米面便宜,就到哪边去吧! " [12:26] <^k^> 新 Ubuntu中文衍生版 • (2015-06-14)Linux Mint 17.1 MATE (简体中文极简版) http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=471283 此版本以Linux Mint 17.1 Mate为设计原型,重新构建打包而成,适合中国大陆地区的桌面型,笔记本等电脑使用,具有以下功能: 1 依托官方原版底层,使用英文+简体中文双语言、 [12:44] <alvin_rxg> gebjgd: 24 [13:00] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 我这里好少 [13:01] <alvin_rxg> gebjgd: https://www.dropbox.com/s/zg80bc73s6l80ru/channels.conf?dl=0 [13:01] <ubrl> alvin_rxg: ⇪ Dropbox - channels.conf [13:10] <wangshidong> 请问为什么我的终端teb键不可以自动补全java的包名 [13:11] <wangshidong> 比如说 java com.java.day.HelloWorld 后面的这一串不会自动补全 [13:18] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 显然和我这里频率不同 [13:19] <^k^> cherrot: 拜萌萌哒首壕妹子壕 [13:25] <wangshidong> 但是确实是ubuntu下可以操作 centos下就不行 [13:30] <mugebjgd> alvin_rxg, 我这里手动搜台收不到了 [13:31] <alvin_rxg> mugebjgd: 天线? [13:32] <mugebjgd> alvin_rxg, 似乎不是那个问题 [13:33] <mugebjgd> alvin_rxg, windows下的原配软件搜不到任何台 [13:33] <alvin_rxg> mugebjgd: 那就是除了几个大的电台,其他的商业频道都关了 [13:33] <alvin_rxg> *任何*? [13:33] <mugebjgd> alvin_rxg, 但是用windows media play能找到10个 [13:33] <alvin_rxg> mugebjgd: 我都 dvb-t 进虚拟机搜台的... [13:33] <mugebjgd> alvin_rxg, dvb-scan? [13:34] <alvin_rxg> yo [13:37] <alvin_rxg> dvb-scan 扫描之后,再 windows 下边用 vlc 播放 [13:38] <mugebjgd> alvin_rxg, 搜不到 [13:38] <mugebjgd> alvin_rxg, me-tv直接搜都不到 任何台 [13:40] <alvin_rxg> 那就没信号? [13:40] <mugebjgd> alvin_rxg, 但是windows media play能搜到 [13:40] <mugebjgd> alvin_rxg, 所以邪门了 [13:41] <alvin_rxg> 那就 wmp 呗 [13:41] <alvin_rxg> 或者你的 scan 怎么执行的? [13:43] <mugebjgd> alvin_rxg, scan 之后加 inital file啊 [13:43] <alvin_rxg> ? [13:44] <alvin_rxg> device 之类不指定?默认的 fallback 对的么? [13:46] <mugebjgd> alvin_rxg, 不需要指定 [13:46] <alvin_rxg> mugebjgd: `ls -R /dev/dvb/` [13:46] <mugebjgd> alvin_rxg, w_scan -c DE -X [13:47] <mugebjgd> alvin_rxg, ls /dev/dvb/adapter0/ -----> demux0 dvr0 frontend0 net0 [13:47] <alvin_rxg> ls -R /dev/dvb/ [13:47] <alvin_rxg> /dev/dvb/: [13:47] <alvin_rxg> adapter0 [13:47] <alvin_rxg> /dev/dvb/adapter0: [13:47] <alvin_rxg> demux0 dvr0 frontend0 net0 [13:47] <wangshidong> 为什么我的自动补全少了很多 [13:47] <alvin_rxg> 设备没问题 [13:47] <mugebjgd> alvin_rxg, 是啊 [13:48] <mugebjgd> ERROR: Sorry - i couldn't get any working frequency/transponder [13:48] <mugebjgd> Nothing to scan!! [13:48] <wangshidong> 请问在那里找到java相关的补全 [13:48] <mugebjgd> alvin_rxg, 这就是结果 [13:48] <mugebjgd> alvin_rxg, 我真是无语了 [13:48] <alvin_rxg> mugebjgd: scan -a 0 -d 0 -f 0 -o zap <init file> > <output> [13:49] <alvin_rxg> wangshidong: 默认的 bash 没有 java completion 的 [13:49] <RobberPhex> 各位好,我在ubuntu下遇到了这个bug:https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/supervisor/+bug/1427434 [13:49] <ubrl> ⇪ f: Bug #1427434 “supervisor init script doesn't wait for supervisor...” : Bugs : supervisor package : Ubuntu [13:49] <RobberPhex> 但是官方为什么3个月都没有回应? [13:49] <alvin_rxg> mugebjgd: 我不知道你的 scan 最后的所有的 output 是啥 [13:49] <mugebjgd> using '/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0' and '/dev/dvb/adapter0/demux0' [13:49] <mugebjgd> ERROR: cannot parse'[CH25: WDR-Dortmund, NDR/WDR-Ruhr, MDR, SWR] [13:50] <mugebjgd> alvin_rxg, scan的列表有问题 [13:50] <alvin_rxg> mugebjgd: 这只是其中一个 error,忽略 [13:50] <mugebjgd> ERROR: initial tuning failed [13:50] <mugebjgd> dumping lists (0 services) [13:50] <mugebjgd> Done. [13:50] <alvin_rxg> lol 0 services [13:50] <mugebjgd> alvin_rxg, 牛逼么 [13:50] <mugebjgd> alvin_rxg, 就是不知道为什么 [13:51] <mugebjgd> alvin_rxg, 莫非这里改了频率什么的? [13:51] <mugebjgd> alvin_rxg, 以前没这个问题 [13:51] <alvin_rxg> mugebjgd: 要不然,全频率扫描吧 /usr/share/dvb/dvb-t/auto-Default [13:52] <mugebjgd> alvin_rxg, ERROR: initial tuning failed [13:52] <mugebjgd> dumping lists (0 services) [13:52] <mugebjgd> Done. [13:52] <alvin_rxg> 还是这样? [13:52] <mugebjgd> alvin_rxg, 我搜了一下 似乎不是我一个人有这个问题 [13:52] <mugebjgd> alvin_rxg, 还有个人也有这问题 [13:53] <alvin_rxg> mugebjgd: dvb 被占了? tuning 的 init 都失败了 [13:53] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 没有 [13:54] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 我还有一个卡 4年前买的 [13:54] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 那个在win下 默认软件都搜不到了 [13:54] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 用那个卡 wmp可以搜到10个 [13:54] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 最早买的这个卡 Linux下根本搜不到 [13:55] <^k^> 新 系统安装和升级 • 14.04 把系统上的软件备份到其他电脑的ubuntu http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=471284 把所有软件备份, 或整个系统移植到其他电脑? zz: 873944287 — 2015-06-14 21:54 [13:55] <alvin_rxg> 驱动正确,不应该不行啊 [13:55] <mugebjgd> alvin_rxg, 你知道鲁尔区 有一次大调整dvb-t吧 [13:55] <mugebjgd> alvin_rxg, 所有的居民都换成dvb-s了 [13:56] <mugebjgd> alvin_rxg, 这就是我觉得奇怪 你竟然知道这个消息 而且你的dvb-t一直能看 [13:56] <alvin_rxg> ö.ö [13:57] <alvin_rxg> 所以我想试试全频率扫描应该可以。。。 [13:59] <mugebjgd> alvin_rxg, me-tv的就是全频率 [14:00] <alvin_rxg> mugebjgd: 我试了一下 auto-Default ... 扫描出来44个频道…… [14:00] <mugebjgd> alvin_rxg, 但是仍然没有 这就说明 他们把什么东西改了 [14:00] <mugebjgd> alvin_rxg, 不可能什么都搜不到 [14:01] <alvin_rxg> mugebjgd: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=ia8r3D7J [14:01] <alvin_rxg> mugebjgd: 但是如果用 auto-Default 应该是会有结果的呀 [14:02] <mugebjgd> alvin_rxg, 没有 [14:02] <mugebjgd> 导入你的文件 信号全为0 [14:02] <alvin_rxg> 全扫描的log http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=qETJgp33 [14:02] <mugebjgd> alvin_rxg, 莫非这里有屏蔽? [14:03] <mugebjgd> alvin_rxg, scan -a 0 -d 0 -f 0 -o zap /usr/share/dvb/dvb-t/auto-Default > newscan.conf [14:03] <mugebjgd> alvin_rxg, 你的scan版本 [14:03] <alvin_rxg> 也不成功? [14:03] <mugebjgd> alvin_rxg, 不行 [14:04] <alvin_rxg> 这… [14:04] <mugebjgd> February 14, 2010 [14:04] <mugebjgd> 的版本? [14:07] <mugebjgd> alvin_rxg, 我试试看w_scan [14:08] <mugebjgd> alvin_rxg, 我闺女实在太精神了 [14:09] <mugebjgd> alvin_rxg, 不睡午觉 闹了3个小时了 [14:09] <alvin_rxg> ... [14:09] <mugebjgd> ERROR: Sorry - i couldn't get any working frequency/transponder [14:09] <mugebjgd> Nothing to scan!! [14:10] <mugebjgd> alvin_rxg, 这是为什么 [14:10] <alvin_rxg> w_scan 在我这也是这样,不清楚 [14:10] <mugebjgd> alvin_rxg, 我得想个办法导出wmp找到的频道列表 [14:10] <mugebjgd> alvin_rxg, ... [14:10] <mugebjgd> alvin_rxg, w_scan是我特意后装的 [14:13] <alvin_rxg> mugebjgd: 那你就每个月花几块钱开通个 kabel 电视呗 [14:14] <mugebjgd> alvin_rxg, 不买kabel 准备买个小锅 [14:14] <mugebjgd> alvin_rxg, 连电视上 [14:14] <mugebjgd> alvin_rxg, 支持fullhd [14:16] <alvin_rxg> sat 可以 fullhd? [14:16] <alvin_rxg> mugebjgd: sat 设备我看过也不贵,不过清晰度一般的吧?不会 hd 吧…… [14:17] <mugebjgd> alvin_rxg, 新的电视不需要receiver [14:18] <mugebjgd> alvin_rxg, 直接连在上就是了 [14:18] <alvin_rxg> oh [14:22] <mugebjgd> alvin_rxg, 先出门了 [14:22] <alvin_rxg> mugebjgd: 明年 2016 年 dvb t 2 上线了 [14:22] <mugebjgd> alvin_rxg, nrw似乎全是dvb-s了 [14:22] <mugebjgd> alvin_rxg, 支持fullhd [14:22] <alvin_rxg> o [14:36] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 刚才去擦楼道地面了 [14:36] <alvin_rxg> gebjgd: 出门擦楼道地面? [14:38] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 一会儿出门 [14:38] <alvin_rxg> ........................... [14:41] <CloudFStrife> 呃…… [14:47] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 你从来没做过楼道的值日 [14:47] <alvin_rxg> gebjgd: 我们不用……每周都有人来打扫的…… [14:49] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 那你需要交钱的 你们几户人家 [14:49] <alvin_rxg> 8 [14:50] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 我们才4户 [14:52] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 什么时候上班? [14:52] <alvin_rxg> k.a. [14:52] <alvin_rxg> 23号一个面试 [14:52] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 还没拿到? [14:53] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 投我们公司 [14:53] <alvin_rxg> ö.ö 这离 stuttgart 多远啊… [14:53] <alvin_rxg> gebjgd: 算内部推荐吗? [14:54] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 鲁尔区 你投吧 试试看 [14:54] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 我擦 [14:54] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, win下更新了软件和驱动 找到 [14:54] <alvin_rxg> 有啥适合三脚猫的职位? [14:55] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 我就是3脚猫 [14:55] <alvin_rxg> 为什么是 win? [14:55] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 因为Linux下没有那个卡的驱动 [14:55] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, win only [14:55] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 因为是hybrid的卡 [14:56] <alvin_rxg> 哦~ [14:58] <alvin_rxg> gebjgd: 好多涉及 windows 的职位我不懂啊… [15:00] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 邪门 为什么wmp能找到pro7 [15:00] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 但是自带软件不行 [15:01] <alvin_rxg> 那就是真的驱动问题咯 [15:02] <alvin_rxg> 我的卡是 realtek 的,两系统都没问题的 [15:03] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, wmp能找到12个台 [15:03] <gebjgd> 但是有pro7 [15:03] <alvin_rxg> oh [15:07] <alvin_rxg> gebjgd: 真投的话,我要不要写上 Herr Zhang 的名号呢? :P [15:09] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, ... [15:18] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 额 更新了驱动马上搜出更多了 连wmp都是 [15:18] <alvin_rxg> good [15:18] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 邪门 但是Linux上的那个还是不行 [15:18] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 我得想办法把列表导出来 [15:18] <alvin_rxg> 那 wmp它支持 deinterlace 么? [15:43] <CNLIC> 有用mIRC的吗? [15:44] <CNLIC> 怎么过滤登陆登出消息? [15:44] <CNLIC> 只显示发言就行 [16:16] <namoamitabuddha> 谁熟悉手机么? [16:16] <namoamitabuddha> 怎么去购买能刷 cyanogenmod 的手机? [16:18] <CNLIC> 去官网看支持哪些型号就买哪个阿 [16:32] <alvin_rxg> one plus one [16:32] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 什么东西? [16:32] <gebjgd> deinterlace? [16:32] <alvin_rxg> gebjgd: 视频抗锯齿,不然好多画面很难看的 [16:33] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 支持 [16:33] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 但是我需要另外一个卡也能用啊 [16:33] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 我另外一个卡只有32位的垃圾win驱动 [16:33] <alvin_rxg> 或许官网有提驱动? [16:33] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 问题是如何导出 [16:33] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 没有 看过了 [16:33] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 导出频道列表 [16:51] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, vlc在win下是不是也是要扫描的? [16:51] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 那么我就能得到正确的列表了 [16:52] <alvin_rxg> gebjgd: vlc 不知道怎么扫描 [16:52] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, ... [16:57] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 莫非我那个卡坏了? [16:58] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 如何能知道它是否坏了 [16:58] <alvin_rxg> gebjgd: 能识别,应该没坏吧? [16:58] <alvin_rxg> gebjgd: 再不然 linux 下边 dmesg 看看? [16:59] <alvin_rxg> gebjgd: 我之前的 msi 的卡用到后来是必须要设置大于 1000ms 的 cache,不然视频卡,同时好多 epg 信息都没有…… [17:00] <gebjgd> [22777.492372] usb 1-1: Manufacturer: UMT-010 V00.01 [17:00] <gebjgd> [22777.494018] dvb-usb: found a 'Hanftek UMT-010 DVB-T USB2.0' in warm state. [17:00] <gebjgd> [22777.511114] dvb-usb: will pass the complete MPEG2 transport stream to the software demuxer. [17:00] <gebjgd> [22777.512139] DVB: registering new adapter (Hanftek UMT-010 DVB-T USB2.0) [17:00] <gebjgd> [22777.515475] usb 1-1: DVB: registering adapter 0 frontend 0 (Zarlink MT352 DVB-T)... [17:00] <gebjgd> [22777.530970] dvb-usb: Hanftek UMT-010 DVB-T USB2.0 successfully initialized and connected. [17:00] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 没问题 [17:00] <alvin_rxg> 没提到 firmware? [17:01] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 以前就是这个 [17:03] <alvin_rxg> 网上说是 dvb-usb-umt-010-02.fw HanfTek UMT-010 USB2.0,这个是 2010年的 firmware,应该不用更新… [17:03] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 我的是 skymaster dtmu 100 [17:05] <alvin_rxg> gebjgd: 那就是说 dvb-usb-umt-010-02.fw 有可能没对? [17:06] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 以前用的就是这个啊 [17:06] <alvin_rxg> ö.ö 那就哪里坏了? [17:10] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 靠 发现一个东西 [17:10] <alvin_rxg> 咩? [17:13] <mugebjgd> alvin_rxg, http://www.linuxtv.org/pipermail/linux-dvb/2006-November/014259.html [17:13] <ubrl> ⇪ t: [linux-dvb] Hanftek UMT-010 [17:13] <mugebjgd> 这个 [17:14] <alvin_rxg> mugebjgd: 这个等于没说啊… [17:14] <gebjgd> al [17:15] <alvin_rxg> 还是说,你要用 Zarlink MT352 的 firmware? [17:15] <alvin_rxg> 我去煮个晚餐 [17:39] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 为什么你给我的channels和网上不一样呢 [17:41] <alvin_rxg> gebjgd: 自己扫描的啊,每个州都不一样的 [17:41] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 不不 网上的channels.conf格式是旧的 [17:41] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 你给我的是新的 [17:41] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 旧格式不能用了 [17:42] <alvin_rxg> 哦…… zap 格式呀 [18:02] <CloudFStrife> .part [18:29] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 准备给老本子装回原来的xp [18:30] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 试试看 不信这卡坏了 [19:35] <alvin_rxg> gebjgd: 驱动,驱动 [19:38] <alvin_rxg> 刚看完电影。。 http://www.bilibili.com/video/av2421848/ [19:38] <ubrl> alvin_rxg: ⇪ 【剧情/喜剧】高楼大劫案(2011)【中字高清】_欧美电影_电影_bilibili_哔哩哔哩弹幕视频网 [20:01] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, xp下正在扫描 [20:02] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 还没找到一个台 [20:06] <alvin_rxg> .. [20:07] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 估计是坏了。。。 [20:07] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 还在扫描 为什么2轮了 [20:07] <gebjgd> win上的那个驱动 官网上下载的是坏的 [20:07] <gebjgd> 日 [20:08] <alvin_rxg> glad to see it [20:08] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 滚 [20:09] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 以后不买skymaster这垃圾牌子的任何东西 [20:09] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 太渣了 刚来德国的时候在saturn买的 [20:10] <alvin_rxg> gebjgd: 别……就是别买没听说过的就是了。。。 买 medion 的也可以 [20:10] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 那时候我来德国不到1个月 [20:11] <alvin_rxg> gebjgd: 差不了太多,我是第二个月买的 msi [20:13] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 额 没搜到 一个都没搜到 [20:18] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 看来是坏了 [20:19] <alvin_rxg> stick with .. 的德语是啥………… ö.ö [20:19] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, stick with 绑定的? [20:20] <alvin_rxg> i'm stuck with blabla. [20:20] <alvin_rxg> 要给教授写个 zwischenstand 报告,结果代码好多英语,然后写个邮件脑袋都是英语……德语忘了 [20:21] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, sich mit etwas bleiben? [20:22] <alvin_rxg> 这个语气完全不一样…… [20:22] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, bei etwas bleiben? [20:22] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 你要表达什么 [20:23] <alvin_rxg> i'm stuck with the code. 这样的 [20:23] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, stick with 什么意思 [20:23] <alvin_rxg> 算了,随便换个别的意思表达好了。 [20:23] <alvin_rxg> 卡住什么……被什么拖住了…… [20:23] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 哦哦 [20:24] <alvin_rxg> ö.ö 你的英语应该知道 stick 的呀… [20:24] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, ich bin angehalten bei ... [20:24] <alvin_rxg> gut [20:25] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 硬件到10年必须坏么 [20:25] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 什么都搜索不到 [20:26] <alvin_rxg> 不一定啊 [20:26] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 很热啊 [20:26] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 那个能用的都很热 [20:26] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 看了个电影就热的不行了 [20:26] <alvin_rxg> 这… [20:27] <alvin_rxg> 我的去年买的,也挺烫的,不过还能摸 [20:27] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 你又买了个新的? [20:27] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 合算你也2个了 [20:27] <alvin_rxg> gebjgd: 最早前买的 msi 的芯片不知道怎么的不稳定, cache 得开 1000ms,然后 epg数据都没有的 [20:28] <alvin_rxg> gebjgd: 有四五个频道在 cache 1000ms 的情况下还是开不出来,完全幻灯片 [20:28] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 看来这东西确实易耗品 [20:29] <alvin_rxg> gebjgd: 还好,现在便宜的15块钱左右,功能没问题的。如果要好点的就买 dvb-t 2,明年6月德国都要上 dvb-t 2 的信号了,都是hd tv [20:29] <gebjgd> 幸好硬盘多 [20:29] <alvin_rxg> gebjgd: 看报道说,十来个频道是免费接收的,其他都 priv [20:29] <alvin_rxg> ... 硬盘干嘛 [20:30] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, xp放在闲置的旧本子硬盘上了 [20:30] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 换回来 [20:30] <alvin_rxg> 晕 [20:31] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 我这里都没什么win的 [20:32] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 就台式机为了玩盗版游戏 [20:32] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 剩下还是用debian 习惯了 [20:33] <alvin_rxg> 呃 [20:37] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 这下知道了 卡坏了 [20:38] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 可以扔了 [20:40] <alvin_rxg> 扔了,新的也就十几块钱狗了 [20:43] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 关键要对Linux支持好的 [20:45] <alvin_rxg> gebjgd: 以前有个网站可以查 linux 下边哪个芯片有哪些 firmware 的,现在找不到了 [20:48] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 有 [20:49] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, linuxty.org/wiki/index.php/DVB-T2_USB_Devices [20:50] <alvin_rxg> 不是这 [20:52] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 其中有个就是支持dvb-t2的 [20:52] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, TBS5220 [20:53] <alvin_rxg> 哦~ [20:58] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 40刀 不便宜 [21:01] <alvin_rxg> 那就买 dvb t 呗… [21:03] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 不买 直接买个大锅了 [21:03] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 弄电视上看 [21:03] <alvin_rxg> .. [21:03] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 睡觉了 明天上班
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2015-06-14-#ubuntu-app-devel
[02:39] <ahoneybun> hey all how do you use flickable with columns? [08:00] <meles> mhall119: you are the maintainer of ubuntu-calendar-app. right? [08:05] <DanChapman> meles, IIRC kunal and mihir are the main developers working on calendar. [09:42] <nik90> meles: ping [11:21] <awad> hi [13:02] <meles> hey nik90 i just saw it now [13:03] <meles> nik90 any progress? [13:23] <meles> nik90 GOT IT! [13:24] <nik90> meles: can you test the click package on your phone and see if it fixes the bug [13:26] <meles> my patch: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11714089 [13:26] <meles> nik90 ^ where is the click package [13:27] <nik90> meles: I added a comment in the bug report with the click package [13:28] <meles> nik90: ok [13:37] <meles> nik90 the app fails to open [13:40] <nik90> meles: eh? [13:40] <nik90> meles: which device image are you running? [13:40] <nik90> meles: I built it against a vivid 15.04 image. Are you running BQ with 14.10 instead? [13:41] <meles> nik90 splash screen is appearing and than it crashes. I'm running 14.10 indeed [13:42] <nik90> meles: that's why it doesn't open for you..its compiled to work on 15.04 and not 14.10 considering that OTA-4 will be released tomorrow which is based on vivid :) [13:42] <meles> nik90 i m building it myself [13:42] <nik90> meles: rest assured, let me build it for 14.10 and send you the click package if you want [13:42] <nik90> meles: ok..ping me if you hit any issues and I can send it to you if required [13:52] <meles> nik90 ping [13:52] <nik90> meles: i'm here [13:54] <meles> nik90 no the fix does not work. but I have to say that I have a special issue. Since I changed the date so many times for testing purposes I had some alarms created at a future date. Reactivating this alarms makes them just go off at the day they were originally created. My fix considers this problem. Can you test it? I can push it if you want. [13:55] <nik90> meles: would the phone issue change their date and go backwards though? [13:55] <nik90> meles: can you upload your fix into a branch that I can grab and test quickly? [13:56] <meles> nik90 no normally not but who knows :-) [13:56] <meles> ok otw [13:56] <nik90> meles: fair enough [14:03] <meles> nik90 ok it's up [14:04] <meles> nik90 lp:~themeles/ubuntu-clock-app/bugfix-1442518 [14:06] * nik90 tests now [14:11] <nik90> meles: yup your patch works better [14:11] <nik90> nice work! [14:12] <meles> :-) [14:13] <nik90> meles: just requires 2 minor code fixes, 1) Better variable names 2) add an entry to the debian changelog [14:13] <meles> nik90 just might have to rename the variables a bit, since they are pretty bad [14:13] <nik90> :) [14:14] <nik90> meles: if you look at https://code.launchpad.net/~nik90/ubuntu-clock-app/fixes-1442518/+merge/261905, you will see the debian changelog entry I used [14:14] <nik90> ofcourse add your own name to the entry [14:14] <meles> nik90 ok i fix it [14:20] <nik90> meles: Why do you do var tdate2 = new Date(d.getFullYear(),d.getMonth(),d.getDate()+1,alarmData.date.getHours(),alarmData.date.getMinutes(),0,0) instead of d.setDay(d.getDate()+1) ? [14:20] <nik90> is it to set the minutes and seconds to 0? [14:21] <meles> now because i coud not get the other variant working [14:22] <meles> nik90 no because i coud not get the other variant working [14:25] <nik90> other variant? [14:25] <meles> nik90 the one u suggested [14:26] <nik90> ah ok [14:30] <meles> nik90 i pushed the new code and entered the information suggested. Is there anything more neccessary [14:31] <nik90> meles: sec, taking a look [14:32] <nik90> meles: two things...update debian changelog and also specify a commit msg to the merge proposal you created [14:35] <meles> where do i change the debian changelog [14:35] <nik90> meles: nano debian/changelog [14:40] <nik90> meles: one other thing..the two variables "currentTime" and "now" are redundant..you just need one of them [14:41] <meles> nik90: you are right. I stick with now, I think its easier, even though the other was used before. ok? [14:42] <nik90> meles: fine by me [14:44] <meles> nik90: ok i think now its complete [14:45] * nik90 checks [14:50] <nik90> meles: commented in the MP proposal. [14:51] <meles> nik90 MP? [14:51] <meles> I have to go now urgently, i ll be back later [14:51] <nik90> meles: ok..you should have got an email about the merge proposal [14:51] <nik90> meles: tty later [17:19] <meles> hey nik90, thanks for your comments. I changed it as you suggested. I hope it's good to merge now. If not let me know. [17:21] <nik90> meles: they look good now. I am going to test this for a 2-3 days to ensure that we didn't miss out any rare cases where the bug might reappear. I would recommend you do the same. [17:22] <nik90> meles: and then I will merge it and try to include it in our release after OTA-4 [17:22] <nik90> popey, balloons: Could either of you trigger jenkins on https://code.launchpad.net/~themeles/ubuntu-clock-app/bugfix-1442518/+merge/261910 pls. thnx [17:23] <nik90> meles: I approved the merge proposal. Will merge in a few days after I finish testing it. [17:25] <meles> nik90 allright I will. I'm very glad that I had your great support!!! Maybe I can contribute to some other bugfixes now, which might make the planed selling of my phone obsolete. :-) [17:26] <nik90> meles: you made the bug fix possible..so a huge thanks to you! And yes feel free to contribute to other bug fixes that grab your attention. [17:28] <nik90> meles: be sure to assign the bug to yourself on launchpad before starting to work on it since otherwise we might have multiple people working on the same thing. [17:32] <meles> nik90 actually there is even one that annoyed me quite a bit at the beginning. It's Bug #1437316. And I would agree to racb's comment, to make the off button red and the snooze green. [17:32] * nik90 looks at the bug report [17:33] <nik90> meles: that bug report is a bit off scope at the moment since it is not the clock app that draws the notification on the screen. Indicator-datetime does at while using the unity8 notification framework. [17:34] <nik90> meles: also it requires feedback from the design team before proceeding to fix it. [17:34] <nik90> I do agree to the bug report as stated in the first comment there [17:35] <nik90> meles: the bugs which are listed in https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-clock-app/+milestone/3.x.backlog are usually blocked atm by things like design, platform limitation etc. [17:38] <meles> nik90 ok I understand. I will see what else I could do. [17:55] <popey> nik90: I am not sure I know how to manually trigger, so gave it a go. lets see if it works [17:55] <popey> nik90: http://91.189.93.70:8080/job/ubuntu-clock-app-ci/ [18:00] <nik90> popey: ack. [18:00] <meles> nik90 my alarms don't trigger any sound or vibration anymore, they just pop up. Does it work on your system [18:00] <popey> thanks for the contribution meles ! [18:02] <nik90> meles: for me it triggers sound and vibration even after installing your patch. I tested this on my Nexus 4 running 15.04 [18:02] <meles> popey: no prob. I'm happy that I could contribute and that I got great support! [18:04] <nik90> meles: good news is that jenkins ran the autopilot and qml tests and found no regressions in your patch! It will be merged in 2 days after we both are confident of the bug fix. [18:05] <popey> woah! My random button pressing worked!? [18:05] <popey> sweet [18:05] <nik90> haha ;) [18:30] <meles> nik90 is there somewhere a proper how to about how to fix and commit a bug, if not I would work on an easy to read summary [18:31] <nik90> meles: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/CoreApps/DevelopmentGuide [18:32] <meles> and about Ubuntu SDK, like how to open the project (CMakeList.txt). [18:32] <meles> nik90 ^ [18:33] <nik90> meles: well stuff like how to run an app, build it for the phone etc are all documented at developer.ubuntu.com [18:33] <nik90> meles: it is common knowledge that cmake projects are opened via the CMakeList.txt file, qmake via .pro etc [18:35] <meles> nik90 not to everybody and without your help i might have just given up. [18:36] <nik90> meles: We could make the core apps contribution guide a bit more descriptive by include such info and for further info redirect the to the official documentation pages? [18:45] <meles> nik90: yes would limit the step to join. And I also think that there is to much text, when I want to check something out I want to get quickly through it. E.g http://paste.ubuntu.com/11715854/ [18:48] <nik90> meles: well yes some pictures would come in handy to explain it in a more intuitive manner [19:00] <popey> I have an item on my to-do to improve the on-ramp for new developers nik90 meles [19:03] <nik90> popey: did you have any particular idea/mockup on how to improve it? [19:03] <popey> the idea was to have a pretty home page for each app [19:03] <popey> and a general page for all the cross-app info [19:03] <popey> and move the content off the wiki [19:04] <popey> no mock ups yet [19:05] <nik90> off the wiki? [19:05] <nik90> dedicated homepages/website for each app? [19:05] <popey> yeah, move it to developer.ubuntu.com [19:05] <popey> yes [19:05] <popey> page per app [19:06] <popey> with links to where the source is, bitsize bugs, planning docs etc [19:06] <nik90> ah [19:24] <meles> popey nik90 i was on the phone. I think developer.ubuntu.com would be the better place since this was also where I was looking for such info. but couldn't the quick start guide be quicker to read. All the info but less text. [19:24] <popey> thanks for the feedback [19:24] <popey> I agree [19:28] <nik90> +1
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2015-06-14-#ubuntu-devel
[05:56] <Logan> anyone know the deal with cmake builds failing on certain arches by being killed with signal 11? [05:56] <Logan> er, builds of packages that use cmake as their buildsystem, not builds of cmake itself [05:57] <infinity> Logan: That should have been resolved, I thought, unless I missed something. Do you have an example? [05:57] <Logan> just happened [05:57] <infinity> Logan: There was a poorly (read: not at all) planned nettle transition that kinda blew up the world. [05:57] <Logan> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/choqok/1.5-2ubuntu1/+build/7539310 [05:58] <Logan> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openturns/1.5-7/+build/7539095 [05:58] <infinity> Logan: Fun. Okay. Still more transition to fix, then. I didn't look very closely before the weekend, cause I had more pressing things to deal with. [05:58] <Logan> looks to just be i386, actually [05:59] <Logan> what's the technical explanation behind this? [07:35] <infinity> Logan: The technical explanation is that nettle doesn't do symbol versioning, so if we're half transitioned and both libnettle4 and libnettle6 end up loaded in the same process space, they stomp all over each other. [07:35] <infinity> Logan: I think I just uploaded the last library (libarchive) that affect cmake in such a way, so we can do some build retries in a bit. [07:35] <infinity> Logan: Not sure I feel like hunting down the rest of the transition at 1:30am. [07:36] <Logan> ah, gotcha [08:09] <infinity> Logan: cmake seems happy again. [10:24] <wgrant> cjwatson: Could you please commit https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/2.02~beta2-25ubuntu1 to Debian git? [10:26] <cjwatson> wgrant: Already did and uploaded [10:26] <cjwatson> Though I only just pushed it - git.d.o was down earlier [10:26] <wgrant> Oh [10:26] <wgrant> I checked git.d.o like 5 minutes ago :) [10:26] <cjwatson> Thanks for the fix [10:27] <wgrant> Thanks. [10:28] <ogra_> :D [10:28] <ogra_> oops [10:28] <ogra_> that was totally not intended ... silly focus [10:28] <wgrant> Broken bootloaders make me happy too :) [21:01] <micahg> could I please get someone to retry https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/wily-adt-libconfig-model-dpkg-perl/lastBuild/ [21:01] <micahg> the amd64 test seems to be a bit flaky, I was only able to get it to fail once and cannot reproduce anymore [21:13] <Laney> micahg: doin' [21:13] <micahg> thanks [23:31] <Unit193> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=788580 would be important.
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2015-06-14-#ubuntu-ops
[00:13] <bazhang> ubottu mir [00:14] <HFSPLUS> HFSPLUS HAS ARRIVED! [00:14] <HFSPLUS> any lawyers in here? [00:54] <bazhang> ObrienDave> Bolvaron, /swap will kill your SSD [00:54] <bazhang> augh [00:55] <bazhang> might as well suggest that emacs stunts your learning [00:55] <bazhang> well, then again [00:56] <Unit193> I'm sure chu will admit to it, yep. [00:56] <bazhang> you summoned him! [00:56] <bazhang> release the emacraken [01:09] <ObrienDave> help in #U-OT please. jParkton thanks [01:09] <bazhang> thanks ObrienDave [04:27] <OerHeks> Hi, i see a regular excess flood in #ubuntu for days now, from @ber19-3-78-220-252-108.fbx.proxad.net with changing names [23:40] <Unit193> Flannel: Drone` already muted $:~a [23:45] <Flannel> We probably want +r at this point for a little bit.
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2015-06-14-#ubuntu-qc
[16:40] <denis> salut YvesLevier
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2015-06-14-#ubuntu-mythtv
[02:50] <SH4071N> any mythbuntu users online [02:52] <SH4071N> I just want to know if mythbuntu will ever be able to read drm files [03:47] <SH4071N> no thoughts
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2015-06-14-#ubuntu-cm
[09:10] <ariabbas> .
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2015-06-14-#launchpad
[09:38] <benjaoming> Hi all, getting into this PPA thing... was wondering if there is an updated practice on the answer to "One package for several distribution" or if best practice is still the same? https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/86040 [09:39] <cjwatson> Still the same [09:40] <cjwatson> And just to clarify that, it's usually best to upload to the oldest distribution you want to support and then copy forwards, rather than uploading to the newest and copying backwrads [09:40] <cjwatson> *backwards [09:40] <cjwatson> Since library compatibility tends to be better that way round [09:48] <benjaoming> cjwatson: thanks for the clarification, I will start with the oldest distribution then... it's a Python application with no dependencies other than Python >= 2.7... so making Launchpad do as little work as possible would seem meaningful :) [09:48] <cjwatson> If it's pure Python, that should be pretty simple, indeed. [10:00] <benjaoming> cjwatson: will the copying happen automatically in the future or do you have to do the procedure on every new build? [10:12] <cjwatson> benjaoming: You have to do it yourself. [10:12] <cjwatson> You can script it yourself using the API if you like, though it may not be worth the bother. [10:13] <cjwatson> But you could at least cause it not to require browser clicking :-)
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2015-06-14-#kubuntu
[00:17] <jean-guy> i got a little technical problem. A few minutes ago, I got valuable imput/ comments, which I wanted to save (screensaver), so I clic on the + at top right to get a full screen, to save the comments. Now I like to know, how can I get out of the wide screen, and back to a normal screen for xchat? [00:18] <jean-guy> if I clic on the minus - sign, if minimized the screen; it i clic on the plus sign + it seems to do nothing [00:22] <valorie> hmmm, xchat isn't our software [00:22] <valorie> and I've not tried it for years [00:23] <valorie> can you grab a corner after clicking the +? [00:23] <jean-guy> okee no problem.. When I reboot, it may correct itself and revert back to the normal screen [00:23] <valorie> seems like windows sometimes get "stuck" for whatever reason [00:23] <valorie> but if you can grab a corner, you can drag it back to what you want [00:24] <valorie> gtk-based stuff seems prone to that [00:24] <valorie> which I think xchat is [00:24] * valorie uses konversation [00:24] <jean-guy> thamks Valorie.... I will reboot and let you know if that does the trick [00:25] <valorie> I didn't suggest rebooting [00:25] <valorie> sheesh [00:25] <valorie> afk [00:27] <mparillo_> The auto-spell-check stopped working for me on konversation Version 1.6 Using KDE Frameworks 5.9.0 Anybody else see that? [00:42] <jean-guy> hi Valorie [00:47] <jean-guy> thanks Vaorie for you suggestion; I've installed the konversation software from ubuntu-software-center, and it works fine [01:27] <austin6598> how do i disable firewall on kubuntu? [01:30] <austin6598> got it, sudo ufw disable [02:03] <austin6598> help? [02:03] <austin6598> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/vsRT4Gv2/ [02:03] <austin6598> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/UGlQIWLf/ [02:33] <valorie> hmmm, ubuntu software center for Kubuntu? [02:34] <valorie> austin6598: do you have git installed? [02:37] <valorie> `apt-cache policy git` or look in muon or so [04:05] <wolferz> Hey everyone, I've got major display issues in my 14.04 Kubuntu distro. I was getting a black screen after the first symbol loaded during login. sound still worked through HDMI but no video. Guest account still worked. I followed, to my demise, a solution on kde forum to purge my nvidia drivers, so I purged nvidia*... Now I cannot even access the login screen or a terminal. I am running the 13.04 dvd in live mode, I am a good user [04:05] <wolferz> and can follow directions well, am comfortable with terminal but do not know many commands. Please, if anyone can help me fix this display, I would greatly appreciate it. [04:15] <austin6598> valorie> is there an alternative to git? [04:17] <bshah> why do you want alternative to git? [04:17] <austin6598> ok yes i have it [04:17] <austin6598> sorry i confused it with apt get yum zypper etc [04:17] <austin6598> i thought kubuntu might have its own git [04:18] <austin6598> austin@Austin-Desktop:~$ $ git clone http://git.darksatanic.net/repo/btrfs-gui.git/ [04:18] <austin6598> $: command not found [04:18] <austin6598> austin@Austin-Desktop:~$ [04:18] <austin6598> ok i took out the $ and its working [04:21] <austin6598> how do i fix this: [04:21] <austin6598> austin@Austin-Desktop:~$ sudo python3 setup.py install [04:21] <austin6598> python3: can't open file 'setup.py': [Errno 2] No such file or directory [04:26] <austin6598> oh nevermind just had to do it in the directory [04:55] <valorie> austin6598: to answer your question, there are lots of alternatives to git, but it seems to be beating the rest of them out [04:55] <valorie> even launchpad is now allowing git use [04:56] <austin6598> how do i make a dameon run on startup? [04:56] <valorie> kubuntu uses Debian git to store our packaging [04:56] <valorie> but mostly KDE's git repos [05:09] <austin6598> can someone explain this?: [05:09] <austin6598> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/CMxcnYGj/ [05:28] <valorie> I'm no coder, but to me it means that qmake-qt5 cannot be used as a command [05:28] <valorie> you might ask that one in #kde-devel where the coders live [05:28] <valorie> although not sure how many people are there at this hour on a Sunday [05:37] <austin6598> yea will check tmrw [05:37] <bshah> !qmake-qt [05:37] <bshah> !qmake-qt5 [05:38] <bshah> !whatis qmake-qt5 [05:38] <bshah> austin6598: do you have qt5-qmake package installed? [05:38] <bshah> or something around taht [05:39] <austin6598> trying to install this [05:39] <austin6598> https://github.com/agronick/BIR [05:42] <austin6598> is there a way to install a .deb through terminal? [05:43] <SaEeDIRHA> hello, i am using Kubuntu vivid, and i have a wired problem , i cannot change the date and time manually , even when i use the command line "date" command [05:43] <SaEeDIRHA> sudo date --set "Sun Jun 14 15:57:08" [05:43] <SaEeDIRHA> but still something reverts it back to its own settings [05:45] <SaEeDIRHA> i have checked "Date & Time" application and the automatic option is not set [05:45] <SaEeDIRHA> do you know by any chance that what is causing the problem ? [05:47] <austin6598> i googled it... [05:48] <SaEeDIRHA> i did [05:48] <SaEeDIRHA> but i cannot find anything relevent [05:51] <valorie> !info qmake-qt5 [05:51] <valorie> !deb [05:51] <valorie> pff [05:52] <valorie> I'm sure there is a command to use the cli, yes [05:52] <valorie> SaEeDIRHA: usually date and time are gotten automatically from a time server [05:53] <valorie> I've never seen a computer that allowed you to over-ride that [05:53] <SaEeDIRHA> valorie, lol, you havent seen a manual time settings ? :D [05:54] <SaEeDIRHA> how long you have been using computers for ? [05:54] <valorie> now display is a whole different thing -- you should be able to configure the display of date and time in the applets or whatever [05:54] <austin6598> <SaEeDIRHA oh sorry i was talking about my problem [05:54] <valorie> SaEeDIRHA: since the 80s [05:54] <SaEeDIRHA> valorie, so since the 80s u are using time server to sync ? :D [05:55] <valorie> I guess before I was on the internet it had to be set manually -- can't recall [05:55] <austin6598> i just installed redditr and i cant find it on my system [05:55] <austin6598> <SaEeDIRH [05:55] <austin6598> oh sorry [05:55] <SaEeDIRHA> well i need to over-ride it manually :D [05:55] <austin6598> didnt mean to put your name [05:56] <valorie> SaEeDIRHA: you might need ##linux or so [05:56] <austin6598> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/gFJAom7L/ [05:56] <valorie> that isn't part of kubuntu or KDE as such [05:56] <SaEeDIRHA> and the date command doesnt work [05:57] <austin6598> oh nevermind, i spelled it wrong [05:57] <austin6598> its reditr [05:57] <valorie> austin6598: have you searched in dolphin to see where everything was put? [05:57] <valorie> !time [05:57] <austin6598> for some reason "recently installed" doesnt show up [05:57] <valorie> SaEeDIRHA: ^^^ [05:57] <valorie> you might find something there [05:58] * valorie goes afk again [05:59] <austin6598> how do you do that in irc valorie? [06:07] <valorie> how do I do what, austin6598? [06:07] <austin6598> send messages to everyone [06:08] <valorie> every post in a channel goes to everyone [06:08] <valorie> not sure what you mean [06:08] <austin6598> this: — valorie goes afk again [06:08] <valorie> ah, you start the line with /me does whatever [06:08] * austin6598 test [06:08] <austin6598> thanks [06:08] * austin6598 talks about himself [06:08] <valorie> and of course away is a status, set by /away [06:09] <valorie> or /away message [06:09] <austin6598> back [06:09] <valorie> and you come back with /back or /away again [06:09] <valorie> at least in Konversation [06:09] <valorie> need to close the IRC window or I'll keep looking at it! [06:10] * adfhdfhjgh test [06:11] <austin6598> do only some clients show away? [06:11] <austin6598> valorie> [06:13] <valorie> !away [06:13] <valorie> I sort of broke that rule, sorry [06:13] <austin6598> how so? [06:13] <austin6598> valorie> [06:14] <valorie> by announcing afk, although that's not as annoying as those who change nicks [06:14] <valorie> in any case, I really really really am closing this window now, although my bouncer will let me read back later [06:14] <austin6598> ok [06:19] <Unit193> austin6598: Now, /who valorie or /whois valorie and you'll see she's away. [06:20] <austin6598> test [06:21] <Unit193> !test | austin65988 [06:21] <austin65988> oh ok [06:24] <austin6598> why doesnt kde have a "hibernate" option [06:52] <valorie> !info kompozer [06:53] <valorie> hmmm [09:21] <lordievader> Good morning. [09:27] <neotheo> good evening [09:30] <lordievader> Hey neotheo [09:42] <woffy> hi all :) after I have updated kubuntu 15.04 i get a bash screen saying starting version 219 Welcome to emergency mode ... how can I solve this? [10:38] <BluesKaj> Howdy all [11:13] <Guest87719> Hello everyone. Quick question - has anyone come across dual screen configurations not persisting between sessions using amd driver and kubuntu 15.04? [11:13] <Guest87719> Any idea how I can save a configuration as default? [11:14] <Guest87719> Using AMD prop driver fglrx through the driver configuration tool [11:16] <murthy> Guest87719: do you know where the config is saved? [11:17] <Guest87719> naa not at all [11:17] <murthy> Guest87719: Sometimes the application needs root access to save the configuration file, like in case of nvidia xconfig [11:18] <Guest87719> The AMD catalyst control panel has an 'administratrive' mode which asks for sudo password when being run, so I would assume that it is running as an elevated user [11:19] <murthy> Guest87719: Can you see any error messages in konsole when you save your config from the amd catalyst control panel? [11:20] <Guest87719> I'vge been starting it from the applications menu, hold that thought I'll run it from a console window now and check [11:25] <Guest87719> negative on the errors in console [11:25] <lordievader> Fglrx still uses an xorg.conf if I am not mistaken. [11:29] <Guest87719> xorg.conf is aware of my two screens, profiles seem correct etc. [11:30] <Guest87719> well - by 'correct' I mean it appears to have a profile for each of my two screens.. haha [11:31] <murthy> Guest87719: Did you enable the debug output for the amd catalyst control panel application in kdebugdialog before you try get the error messages? [11:32] <murthy> I mean kdebugdialog [11:33] <gnomek> hi [11:34] <Guest87719> Naa, didn't know about that one - sussing it out now [11:35] <Guest87719> The kdebugdialog does not seem to have an entry for the catalyst control panel? [11:36] <lordievader> Hey gnomek [11:39] <gnomek> Can you tell me please how to connect to #akademy channel in quasell? I read The IRC channel for the event is #akademy on freenode.net I added irc://irc.freenode.net:6667/ to networks but it doesn't appear in chats to chose from [11:39] <bshah> now that you are here, just run '/join #akademy' [11:41] <murthy> Guest87719: Try running the kdebugdialog after you started the control panel [11:42] <gnomek> Thank you <bshah> [11:42] <bshah> np :) [11:52] <gnomek> Is it appropriate to write on Kubuntu devel emailing list if I want to ask them to update network manager to a new version? [11:53] <gnomek> I wonder if communication there it is not reserved only for developers and should not be joined by users. [11:53] <lordievader> gnomek: Better to file a bug. [12:13] <Guest81531> hey there, I was just chatting to someone about a dual-screen persistence issue with amd catalyst drivers [12:13] <Guest81531> Just letting you know I have it sorted [12:16] <regedit> hello! [12:16] <regedit> trouble setting up a dual boot Windows + Kubuntu system [12:17] <regedit> following instructions, i started by installing windows 8, left extra space during initial setup for kubuntu [12:19] <regedit> whoops got disconnected [12:19] <regedit> as i was saying: [12:19] <regedit> trouble began during kubuntu setup - it was complaining something about "...there seem to be other OSs that were installed with non-UEFI BIOS setting, but you seem to be in UEFI mode..." [12:20] <regedit> my UEFI was always enabled though :( [12:20] <regedit> so i tried boot-repair [12:20] <regedit> here is the paste: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11713662/ [12:21] <regedit> still does not allow booting to windows, only seems to be aware f ubuntu [12:21] <BluesKaj> regedit, perhaps disabling secure boot will help [12:23] <BluesKaj> oops too late' [13:34] <Arthur_D> hi, how would I make KCron run my script as I would run it myself? Atm it doesn't seem to store variables like it should [13:35] <Arthur_D> I set up this test script: http://pastebin.com/bVEYj0MW [13:35] <Arthur_D> running it myself in Konsole works as expected, but setting it to run every minute in KCron it prints nothing to the file [13:36] <Arthur_D> any help appreciated :) [13:37] <BluesKaj> Arthur_D, 15.04? [14:28] <BluesKaj> ok, special windows and application settings finally remembered the size set for konversation on the desktop [14:29] <[RO]Daniel> hi all, is there any way to run latest vers of itunes without virtual machine? [14:34] <BluesKaj> [RO]Daniel here's one i found for Amarok https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=116&t=91697 [14:36] <[RO]Daniel> "How to import iTunes library to amaroK?" [14:36] <Arthur_D> BluesKaj: Kubuntu 14.04 [14:36] <[RO]Daniel> :) thx but is not what i look for [14:36] <[RO]Daniel> i want especialy because of apple music, service that will be available from 30 this month [14:36] <[RO]Daniel> not for sync/playlist other things [14:37] <Arthur_D> I came a little further, but still not sure why it's not working - it does execute the script, but apparently doesn't do what it should. The script works standalone though :s [14:45] <BluesKaj> [RO]Daniel, have you looked into running itunes in Wine ? [14:46] <[RO]Daniel> yes, but it looks like it is only possible for older versions, not the latest [14:54] <jalcine> [RO]Daniel: might be out of luck until someone finds a means to do so [15:33] <[RO]Daniel> yes jalcine :( [15:34] <[RO]Daniel> after about 4 years of full linux usage i'm gonna switch back to win just for itunes?! wtf am i doing? [15:34] <[RO]Daniel> :)) [15:35] <BluesKaj> or you could find a substitute [15:36] <BluesKaj> itunes was neat init's day , now there's lots of competition, and some are free [15:49] <[RO]Daniel> i don't think any substitute exists [15:50] <[RO]Daniel> i want it because of functionalities, not because i can play music on :) [15:50] <[RO]Daniel> and "i want especialy because of apple music, service that will be available from 30 this month" i've said that before here [15:51] <[RO]Daniel> so i don't think in any other app you can log in with apple id in order for that service to work, or could i? [15:51] <[RO]Daniel> :) [16:08] <BluesKaj> sorry [RO]Daniel , i have no idea [16:12] <Arthur_D> I finally figured that I had pointed to the wrong public key path *blush* [16:13] <Arthur_D> dunno why it accepted it otherwise :s [16:26] <Lildirt> Been running kubuntu-desktop for a bit and it seems KDE likes to crash after sometime. There's no particular reason why, it just kind of happens. I checked xsession-errors to find "init: startkde main process (2475) killed by TERM signal". Anyone know anything about this, possibly? [16:27] <Lildirt> Eventually after some screen flickering my monitors go to power save mode, and there's no more output. No matter when I try to use CTRL+ALT+F2 I can't get a terminal, so I have to hardreset. [16:33] <BluesKaj> Lildirt, have you checked power management in system settings to change the graphics power settings, otherwise if you are on 15.04 then KDE crashes are common since plasma/KF5 is still in development [16:34] <BluesKaj> unfortunately [16:34] <Lildirt> Nope, I'm on 14.04. I also recall disabling any "power saving" features in power management. [16:35] <BluesKaj> have you upgraded to plasma5/KF5? [16:37] <Lildirt> No, I haven't. [16:51] <BluesKaj> Lildirt, don't , from all reports it's worse on the 14 versions then the 15.04 kubuntu [16:51] <BluesKaj> then=than [16:52] <Lildirt> Well yeah, that'd kind of go without saying, haha. [16:52] <Lildirt> Looks nice but I'm not going to fall for it. [16:53] <Lildirt> Beyond startkde being term'd for no reason I've nothing to solve this problem with. Somewhat contemplating just installing another distro and throwing KDE on it. [16:54] <Lildirt> Seeing if it nukes itself then. [16:55] <BluesKaj> Lildirt, actually I prefer the KDE/Plasma 4 look...but my role is comitted to testing kubuntu releases before the offiical release date, so i have to deal with changes that i don't like [16:56] <BluesKaj> sometimes [16:56] <Lildirt> Well they both look nice honestly. I've preferred KDE over the rest for this reason, because it looks fancy. 5 reminds me a tad of a metro thing though, looks more minimalistic. [17:00] <BluesKaj> Lildirt, will it's flat and simple , some say simplistic, default icons etc don't do much for me [17:01] <Lildirt> Sure. Some people really like the minimalism thing though. [17:02] <Lildirt> I think it looks alright if you do it right, but honestly the minimalism that seems to have rushed in as of late makes things easier for designers more than anything lol. [17:06] <Lildirt> Haha, I like that part message. [17:22] <BluesKaj> Lildirt, he's here all the time , but seldom participates [17:22] <BluesKaj> many lurkers [17:22] <Lildirt> I'm here all the time too. I never chat though. [17:22] <Lildirt> I've over a hundred channels across different networks open though so it'd be kind of hard for me to. [17:24] <BluesKaj> general chatting is supposed to be done in kubuntu-offtpic, by participating I mean helping others if you can [17:24] <Lildirt> Well true. But I never know anything so haha. [17:25] <BluesKaj> 7 chats at once is enough for me :-) [17:27] <TBotNik> All: Noticed a couple things that was wondering if anyone has solution resources on? 1.) Google's javascript, now using HTML5 memory cache no longer allows multi-user logins, 2.) Craiglist only allows 5 minutes of operation, then shuts you down for 15-30 min, before you can work again, 3.) Ubuntu/Kubuntu 14.04 is still unstable, cannot get any of my 8 machines to be/work the same! All help appreciated [17:27] <Lildirt> Meh. Sometimes I'll have random conversations on random channels so. [17:28] <Lildirt> Yeah I've noticed that Ubuntu isn't kind to literally anyone haha. Despite numerous installs it fails meh :c [17:30] <BluesKaj> TBotNik, your first 2 questions aren't kubuntu related, but the last one may get some attention if you tell us what your unstable install is or is not doing [17:35] <TBotNik> BluesKaj: Work machine, corrupted "System Monitor" when I migrated from 12.04 to 14.04 and have found no way to recover that. Gives XML error. It also will not load TeamViewer, but was having that problem under 12.04 before the upgrade! [17:36] <TJ-> TBotNik: did you ever customize System Monitor? Have you tested it with a new clean user profile? [17:36] <TBotNik> BluesKaj: Laptop has Apache errors and will not load any site or file with "index.*". It also will not sync at all on Dropbox! [17:38] <TBotNik> BluesKaj: Desktop here and Laptop both have Network Manager problems [17:39] <TBotNik> BluesKaj: None of the machines will sync MySQL [17:39] <BluesKaj> TBotNik, did you upgrade 12.04 via the package manager LTS updater and diyou upgrade the 12.04 packages before upgrading to 14.04 [17:40] <BluesKaj> ? [17:41] <TJ-> TBotNik: I don't understand the 'apache error' - you mean the laptop has an instance of Apache httpd and reports an error when it received a request for any file with a name matching "index.*" ? [17:42] <TBotNik> BluesKaj: Did the Work machine via online all others via Live DVD. Also noticed the recover mode on boot from the LiveDVD, which was on all previous version is no longer an option, so you only 2 options, is format a new instance of OS or destroy all your data via full disk format! Not acceptable at all!!!!! [17:43] <TBotNik> BluesKaj: Cursor (Mouse) is now so totally crapped on this Desktop, that selection of any text is impossible! [17:45] <TJ-> TBotNik: The Live images are for installation, not release upgrade [17:45] <BluesKaj> TBotNik, I read your complaints and issues, but you didn't answer my question [17:46] <BluesKaj> TJ-, unles he used / and home partitions then it's possible to have decent install [17:47] <TJ-> TBotNik: To do a release upgrade locally using removable media you'd want to configure apt's sources.list to have a cdrom:// repository entry and then use do-release-upgrade [17:47] <TBotNik> BluesKaj: Yes I ran apt-get install update && apt-get install upgrade before init of the 14.04 on the Work box! [17:48] <BluesKaj> or just install to / if the machines have /home partitions [17:49] <TBotNik> TJ-: Yes that is the exact error on any site/page with "index.*" say can't redirect! Never say that error before in 10+ years on Unix/Linux! [17:49] <BluesKaj> TBotNik, a dist-upgrade should have been done as well to upgrade kernels or kernel modules [17:49] <TJ-> TBotNik: "can't redirect" tells me you've got a bug in your redirect rules in the web site config [17:51] <TJ-> TBotNik: could be an issue with the setting in Apache httpd for the DirectoryIndex [17:52] <TBotNik> BluesKaj: I keep limits on files in /home/$user and keep most files on 2nd drives using symlinks, so I can keep data away for any possible partitioning on the main HD! [17:53] <TBotNik> BluesKaj: Most machine have only 1 user, myself, one machine has 5 users, because it's a share desktop. [17:54] <BluesKaj> TBotNik, TJ- seems to have a handle on your problem , Apache is somewhat beyond my realm [17:55] <TBotNik> TJ-: I have the 000-default.conf posted at: http://pastebin.com/Ee5hG7NJ [17:56] <TBotNik> TJ-: See if you can find the error. There is nothing in the error logs showing the issue! [17:56] <TJ-> TBotNik: I'd need to see the entire apache config for that [17:58] <TBotNik> TJ-: It's never been altered in it's 8 year history, unless the upgrade changed it! [17:59] <TBotNik> TJ-: Want me to add that to the PB? [18:00] <TJ-> TBotNik: I'm trying to think of an easy way to collect it "-S" won't do it and apache2ctl configtest only reports syntax errors not weird config options. What error code does apache return when you request "index.html" for example? [18:01] <TBotNik> BluesKaj: I think that is the cmd I ran on the Work box, but not the ones here at home. Assuming full cmd: apt-get install dist-upgrade? Correct? [18:02] <TBotNik> TJ-: Please explain you post: To do a release upgrade locally using removable media you'd want to configure apt's sources.list to have a cdrom:// repository entry and then use do-release-upgrade [18:04] <TBotNik> TJ-: BRB, going to get the Laptop to run "localhost" and "google.com" to give you the results! [18:04] <TJ-> TBotNik: When an install is done from a CD/DVD image it adds an entry to Apt's sources.list so it can install additional files without going out over the network. Something like "deb cdrom:[Ubuntu-Server 14.04 LTS _Trusty Tahr_ - Release amd64 (20140416.2)]/ trusty main restricted" [18:05] <TJ-> TBotNik: If that media doesn't contain a package, or the package is out of date compared to network archives, then Apt will look to those instead. [18:05] <TJ-> TBotNik: So if you have a mirror on a DVD of the packages required for upgrade and remove any network entries from sources.list it is possible to do a release upgrade entirely from a removable media. [18:07] <TBotNik> TJ-: Per BluesKaj's post I should be running th: apt-get install dist-upgrade cmd on all the boxes to fix the errors? [18:11] <TBotNik> TJ-: On the laptop google.com says: "The page isn't redirecting properly" and localhost says: "Unable to connect" but if I enter localhost/alias they all come up! [18:12] <TJ-> TBotNik: I think BluesKaj was meaning that in preparation for a release-upgrade from, for e.g., 12.04 to 14.04, the 12.04 install needs to be fully up to date with th archive packages. So "apt-get dist-upgrade" ensures that. *then* the release-upgrade is started. [18:13] <TBotNik> TJ-: Would that fix a lot of the issues with these machine by machine inconsistancies? [18:15] <TJ-> TBotNik: After the release-upgrade? It won't harm but it can't do much with regard to any inconsistencies between the original 12.04 packages and the 14.04 packages. [18:16] <TJ-> TBotNik: I don't understand your comment about the web-site. What web-site is Google reporting as "not redirecting properly"? I thought the site you referred to was running on a local, LAN-based, laptop installation. [18:16] <TBotNik> TJ-: Thinking there should be no residuals of 12.04 left but not sure so running it now. Funny It said 0 of 0 need upgrading, then it actually did start upgrading stuff! [18:17] <TBotNik> TJ-: The redirect error comes from the googl.com site, since it's default page starts with "index." [18:19] <TBotNik> TJ-: That is what is so weird. Almost all Home Pages of any site is an "index.*" page, so can not see any home pages, but if I know a subpage they will show! [18:20] <TBotNik> TJ-: Therefore anysite.com/subpage always works, but never anysite.com [18:21] <TBotNik> BRB: Coffee run! [18:23] <TJ-> TBotNik: Are you trying to literally request a page with the name "index.*" ?!?! [18:24] <TJ-> TBotNik: As in trying to browse to "http://www.google.com/index.*" ? [18:25] <TBotNik> TJ-: Ok so when you enter www.google.com the default page behind it is www.google.com/index.php or index.* and so there is a redirect to the actual index.* file and that is what fails. [18:27] <TBotNik> TJ-: Could be index.html, index.htm, index.do, index.php, index.php5, index.pl etc, but any "index" file error on any and every site! [18:27] <austin6598> is there any way to make the notification tray load faster on startup? [18:27] <austin6598> when i startup kubuntu, synergy says: System tray is univailable, quitting [18:28] <TJ-> TBotNik: no, the "*" means 'wildcard that matches anything'. The DirectoryIndex directive in Apache httpd specifies the names of the default pages to sever up when a user agent requests the directory name only. Any other request is processed literally according to the redirect rules [18:30] <TJ-> TBotNik: give me an example of a URL that fails for you? [18:30] <TBotNik> TJ-: I'm giving you that because it does not matter the extension, if the filename is "index" regardless of the extension it errors! that is why I used the wildcard character, so you would understand this applies to all files/pages named "index"! [18:31] <TJ-> TBotNik: That suggests your browser or local network proxy are altering the request. Give me an example of a URL that fails for you so I can compare [18:31] <TBotNik> TJ-: www.google.com [18:33] <TBotNik> TJ-: You won't see it you don't have the problem. They will all go through on you side, but not here. Only my laptop does this, no other machines, so is specific to just that machine! [18:34] <TJ-> TBotNik: OK, for me that returns a 302 redirect to "Location: http://www.google.co.uk/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=Bsl9VfeXA9CKoQfW9IC4DQ" [18:35] <TJ-> TBotNik: OK, do what I did, use a telnet connection to see if the response you receive has been interfered with [18:36] <TJ-> TBotNik: here's how to do it: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11715784/ [18:39] <TBotNik> TJ-: On my desktop it redirects to: https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl [18:43] <TJ-> TBotNik: Ahhh... it's trying to redirect you to a TLS/SSL site. What happens if you try to access that directly? here's an example: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11715837/ [18:44] <TBotNik> TJ-: All home (index) web pages use a redirect. This is global! That is why I know it is in the 000-default.conf file, because I copied that file from my desktop, which works to the laptop, which now has this error. that is the only change made, before this error started occurring! [18:48] <doggy_> Hello everyone! Sorry for my bad English. Can you please help me? Ive disassembled my laptop (lenovo z370) to clean cooling system. [18:48] <TBotNik> TJ-: I've now got a couple guys on #httpd, trying to help, can you join there? [18:48] <doggy_> Then assembled it back and it working fine except wifi. What strange is that lspci command show Network controller: Qualcomm Atheros AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI [18:49] <doggy_> But i cant find wlan device in /dev. And as you can expect i cant connect via network manager. [18:49] <doggy_> So does anyone know is it hard or soft problem? How can i determine it to be sure. Ive spend 7 hours googling, assembling and dissasembling my laptop trying, to figure out what was my mistake [18:52] <blacksoul> hey, I just installed kubuntu 15.04 and opened firefox: the context menu in firefox doesn't stay inside my display boundaries... (1) open website > move mouse near the right border > right click ...half menu is visible, other half is outside (depends on the click position).. [18:52] <blacksoul> any idea? [18:53] <BluesKaj> , doggy_, but your ethernet is ok ? Try, sudo ifconfig wlan0 up [18:56] <BluesKaj> blacksoul, i just had the same problem, close and open FF [18:56] <doggy_> BluesKaj. Yes Ethernet works fine. Im using it right now. SIOCSIFFLAGS:(SIOCSIFFLAGS: Операция не позволяется из-за RF-kill) Operation is not permitted by RF-kill [18:57] <blacksoul> BluesKaj: ill try.. brb [18:57] <BluesKaj> doggy_, sudo iwlist wlan0 scan|grep -i essid [18:58] <blacksoul> BluesKaj: still not working.. [18:58] <doggy_> wlan0 Interface doesn't support scanning : Network is down [18:59] <BluesKaj> doggy_, which wifi chip , sounds like you need to a wifi driver [18:59] <doggy_> black look to sys settings->screen. There may be extra monitor [19:00] <doggy_> Network controller: Qualcomm Atheros AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01) [19:04] <BluesKaj> doggy_, atheros is one of the best wifi chips foir linux, this surprises me [19:04] <BluesKaj> doggy_, just make sure the driver is installed , check the package manager [19:07] <vip> hi ho [19:07] <vip> is there any on screen keyboard for kde? [19:14] <vip> florence, hmm [19:14] <vip> but crashes a lot [21:49] <bjrohan> I haven't had any issues with my 14.04 installation regarding networking until about an hour ago. i had to restart my system, and when I did I can not get my wifi to turn on. Any help with this would be appreiated [22:03] <austin6598> when i run genymotion it says: [22:03] <austin6598> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/V95eFtV5/ [22:48] <baudspark> Hi all, I have a tiny script I wrote to automatically connect to my VPN, and when I run it from a shell it works exactly as advertised, but when I add it to the list of Automatically Started Applications in Autostart, it doesn't work--whether I put it to Run on "Startup" or "Pre-KDE Startup". Here's the script: https://paste.fedoraproject.org/231970/21976143/ Can anyone give me a clue what I'm doing wrong that is causing it [22:48] <baudspark> to not work? [22:49] <baudspark> I've also tried throwing it in /etc/init.d, and in rc.local, those solutions don't work, either. There's clearly something wrong about trying to run the script outside of my user session. Just bugger if I know what.
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2015-06-14-#ubuntu-za
[07:17] <Kilos> morning all [07:18] <Cryterion> morning [07:18] <Kilos> ha not hiding today [07:19] <Cryterion> lol. on phone atm anyway. so no script running [07:19] <Kilos> lol [11:38] <georgelappies> hi all [11:39] <Kilos> hi georgelappies [11:45] <georgelappies> hi Kilos, how are you doing [11:45] <Kilos> good ty and you? [11:46] <georgelappies> good thanks :) [13:36] <inetpro> #PowerAlert: Eskom will implement #load_shedding stage 1 from 17h00 to 22h00 today. [13:50] <MaNI> lovely [13:58] <inetpro> MaNI: you can say that again [13:58] <Kilos> ai! [13:59] <MaNI> nothing like some sunday afternoon load shedding to prepare you for the week ahead [14:00] <Kilos> lol [14:21] <squish102> "Minister of Public Enterprises Lynne Brown ruled out the privatisation of basic services - such as the provision of electricity and water - and said load shedding will continue for three more years." [14:21] <squish102> only three more years and then it will be better [14:21] <squish102> there is hope [14:25] <Kilos> lol [14:26] <georgelappies> squish102, that is based on the assumption that Eskom will get stations like Medupi and Kuseli up and running though in time... [14:28] <inetpro> I have my doubts [14:29] <inetpro> but at the same time I think in two or three years time things will look totally different [14:29] <inetpro> more and more people and businesses will be off the grid by that time [14:29] <Kilos> they first have to get permission from the forefathers to carry on [14:30] <inetpro> we might even end up not needing those power stations [14:30] <Kilos> why? [14:30] <inetpro> Kilos: the more people doing threir own thing the less power is needed [14:31] <inetpro> their* [14:31] <Kilos> lol [14:31] <Kilos> too expensive [14:31] <inetpro> the costs are starting to balance out [14:32] <Kilos> those battery systems for a household are R36k [14:32] <inetpro> it's a long term investment [14:32] <Kilos> i wonder how long those batteries will last [14:40] <inetpro> people are doing it without a doubt [14:45] <georgelappies> Nuclear power is the most sane long term, cheapest solution [14:45] <georgelappies> the reactors just needs to be maintained [14:46] <inetpro> georgelappies: only a matter of time [14:46] <georgelappies> other sources, especially solar in SA is an option for the *rich* [14:47] <inetpro> only a matter of time until we get to extract energy from the sun more effeciently [14:47] <georgelappies> yeah have plenty of nuclear waste disposal sites in old mined out deep level gold mines [14:48] <inetpro> efficiently as well [14:49] <georgelappies> inetpro, the problem is that you cannot install a device in a living area (squatter camp) where the cost of the solar device is 10 times the value of everything in a 2km radius of it [14:50] <georgelappies> we (people who can make plans to get of the grid by solar, generators etc) are not the majority who require electricity [14:50] <inetpro> good point [14:51] <georgelappies> major users of electricity is first and foremost industry [14:51] <georgelappies> smelting ovens and other big factories use an order of magnitude more electricity than the suburbs [14:52] <inetpro> the answer really lies in private sector feeding into the grid [14:52] <georgelappies> here were I live, Secunda. The Sasol plant has two power stations 1.5km from each other, owned and operated by Sasol just to provide steam and electricity for the rest of units in the factory [14:53] <georgelappies> exactly, it needs to de monopolized [14:54] <inetpro> I just wish the polution factor could be addressed as soon as possible [14:54] <georgelappies> problem is that the government owns Eskom and stand to loose to much if Eskom is ever listed on the JSE [14:55] <georgelappies> yeah, pollution is a big problem, especially for fossil fuel plants [14:56] <georgelappies> nuclear if maintained properly is actually the *cleanest* [14:56] <georgelappies> only thing is if nuclear f's out, it f's big time, like Chernobyl and that site in Japan [14:57] <Kilos> yip you need skilled peeps to run nuke plants [14:58] <inetpro> oh and we need so many more customer service-oriented people [15:00] <georgelappies> check this link for efficiency of nuclear fuel: https://www.euronuclear.org/info/encyclopedia/f/fuelcomparison.htm [15:01] <Kilos> nuke power is the answer [15:01] <georgelappies> currently we (SA) produce 18% of the total Uranium consumed in the world annually: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uranium_in_Africa [15:01] <Kilos> koeberg has been running fine for many years [15:02] <georgelappies> it is a by product of our deep level mining as the gold ore contains Uranium and Plutonium [15:03] <georgelappies> so, we have enough of the stuff to power SA for thousands of years into future [15:04] <Kilos> yeah well if they keep on planning we could have 6 nuke plants going by 2050 [15:04] <Kilos> but i wont see that [15:05] <inetpro> how long does it take to build a plant? [15:05] <Kilos> i think 5 years [15:06] <inetpro> quicker to do it in minetest :-) [15:06] <Kilos> every thing must be done according to the book, no cutting corners by cutting on cement or so [15:07] <Kilos> yeah but that took a while too to get to that stage [15:09] <georgelappies> building (site work, excluding the front engineering) in a first world country is about 5-7 years. We will probably by existing IP from China so there will be no front end engineering required, however building it here will be more like 8-10 years unless the Chinese build it [15:16] <inetpro> Kilos: @CityTshwane Stage 1 #LoadShedding to be implemented from 17:00 scheduled groups are: 11, 15, 9, 10 & 16 [15:17] <Kilos> oh my [15:18] <Kilos> so if im in one of those groups it can happen anytime between now and 10 pm [15:19] <Kilos> thnks inetpro [15:23] <Kilos> hopefully this week i get to go buy a soldering iron in sandton [15:24] <Kilos> then i can repair an asrock h61m-vs3 motherboard [15:48] <inetpro> uh! [15:49] <inetpro> magespawn's gridwatch is lekker confused [15:50] <Kilos> what gridwatch [15:50] <inetpro> sending me alerts of loadshedding beeing suspended only to tell me the next moment that it's been implemented on stage 1 again [15:50] <inetpro> Kilos: android loadshedding app [15:50] <Kilos> ai! [15:50] <inetpro> from news24 [15:51] <Kilos> i see this http://www.tshwane.gov.za/sites/Departments/Public-works-and-infrastructure/Pages/Load-Shedding.aspx [15:51] <Kilos> does that show only area 15 and 16 will be shed tonight [15:53] <inetpro> Kilos: look at the table for stage 1 [15:53] <inetpro> and focus on the last column (Sun 2 & 4) [15:54] <inetpro> today is the 2nd Sunday of the month [15:55] <inetpro> in other words according to that, it should just be areas 15, 9 and 11 [15:55] <Kilos> i see this http://pasteboard.co/1dEIdwMI.png [15:56] <inetpro> yikes! [15:57] <Kilos> terrible [15:57] <Kilos> thats part of why i can never find it [15:58] <inetpro> yep, they really need to learn to put stuff in proper HTML rather relying on proprietary technologies [15:59] <inetpro> still you should be able to read that [15:59] <Kilos> i can but is where shedding is there where the red arrow is [15:59] <inetpro> no, that has nothing to do with it [15:59] <Kilos> oh my [16:00] <inetpro> that is pointing to the scrollbar [16:00] <Kilos> eish [16:00] <inetpro> not supposed to be inside the table [16:00] <Kilos> but then the 2nd sunday is only area 16 right? [16:01] <inetpro> oom Kilos. look at the tme as well on the left [16:01] <inetpro> time* [16:02] <Kilos> oh so 9 and 11 still to be shed tonight [16:02] <inetpro> yebo yes [16:03] <Kilos> ty inetpro now just to find what area [16:03] <inetpro> \o/ [16:03] <inetpro> nou verstaan hy [16:03] <Kilos> ja dankie man [16:03] <inetpro> :-) [16:04] <inetpro> and if it's stage two you look at the next table [16:04] <Kilos> ya that can work if i know what area they class this as [16:04] <inetpro> and when it is Monday you look in the Mon column :-) [16:05] <Kilos> got that ty [16:10] <inetpro> Kilos: maybe you should tweet @CityTshwane and attach that table of yours so they can be aware of the poorly formatted page on your browser [16:10] <Kilos> lol [16:10] <inetpro> attach that image of yours* [16:10] <Kilos> who gets to fix things [16:11] <inetpro> if nobody tells them they may not get to know it [16:13] <Kilos> must i say please fix it [16:13] <inetpro> just got yet another notice from gridwatch, "Eskom has suspended load shedding" only to be followed by, "ALERT! Eskom has started Stage 1 load shedding" [16:13] <inetpro> ai! [16:14] <Kilos> ai! [16:15] <Kilos> i closed all the tswane stuff now, those changing pics waste data [16:17] <MaNI> damn missed half the power plant talk thanks to eskom :p [16:18] <Kilos> aw [16:28] <inetpro> Kilos: I see you tweeted [16:29] <Kilos> haha [16:29] <inetpro> Kilos: only problem is, they will never know it [16:29] <Kilos> why? [16:29] <inetpro> you should include @CityTshwane in your tweet [16:29] <Kilos> ai! [16:30] <Kilos> ill tweet again from their site [16:31] <Kilos> eish no copy paste there [16:32] <Kilos> ha [16:32] <Kilos> ctrl+v works [16:33] <Kilos> inetpro do you see that one? [16:35] <inetpro> Kilos: much better thanks [16:36] <Kilos> yw [16:37] <Kilos> will they get you to fix it? [16:40] <Kilos> wow fly is becoming quite a chef [16:42] <Kilos> hi Cryterion [16:42] <Kilos> ai! [16:42] <Kilos> wb Cryterion [16:42] <Kilos> what are you breaking [16:45] <Kilos> oi [16:45] <Cryterion--> hmm. hi. tks [16:54] <inetpro> ai! [17:13] <Kilos> inetpro @sharpeys thank you for bringing that to our attention we will get it fixed. [17:14] <inetpro> Kilos: you see, it works [17:14] <Kilos> ya [17:15] * inetpro has noticed city of johburg also being very active on twitter [17:16] <Kilos> eish and i dont like twitter at all [17:18] <inetpro> @CityofJoburgZA has 99.7K followers [17:19] <Kilos> wow [17:24] <inetpro> you don't get to those kind of numbers without a bit of effort [17:25] <Kilos> i dont like the numbers, i try to keep mine down [17:25] <Kilos> most peeps brag with all their followers [17:25] <Kilos> drives me nuts [17:25] <inetpro> haha, you really don't need those numbers :-) [17:41] * superfly is already in bed [17:41] <Kilos> keep warm superfly you sick? [17:41] <superfly> Kilos: just tired. been a long weekend [17:41] <Kilos> then have a good rest [17:54] <inetpro> ai! [17:54] <Kilos> wat [17:55] <inetpro> eskom loadshedding site is broken http://loadshedding.eskom.co.za/ [17:55] <Kilos> lol [17:58] <inetpro> wb smile [18:00] <smile> hi! :D [18:06] <smile> inetpro: honeymoon in trinidad [18:06] <smile> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTyj0d_XZO8 [18:06] <smile> it's a ridiculous music video [18:06] <smile> :D [18:10] <smile> Cryterion: hi! :D [18:16] <Cryterion> Hi [18:26] <Kilos> inetpro you here? [18:26] <Kilos> we still got power [18:28] <inetpro> Kilos: yes [18:29] <inetpro> at least I think I am still here [18:30] <Kilos> lol [18:30] <Kilos> so im not section 15 or 9 [18:31] <inetpro> time will tell [18:32] <Kilos> they must get it right or ill tweet them sick [18:36] <Kilos> there is a remix for schools and colleges called malinux [18:36] <Kilos> http://phillw.net/isos/bento-ubuntu-remix/ [18:36] <Kilos> dont know if our schools could use it [18:36] <Kilos> 2.7g iso [18:42] <georgelappies> night all [19:31] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight [19:31] <Kilos> sleep warm [19:31] <inetpro> hmm... [19:31] <Kilos> what [19:31] <inetpro> good night oom Kilos [19:32] <Kilos> night my pro [21:07] <smile> Slaapwel [22:50] <magespawn> good evening [22:50] <magespawn> hallo
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2015-06-14-#kubuntu-devel
[09:21] <lordievader> Good morning. [10:38] <BluesKaj> Howdy all [11:12] <murthy> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=339536 [11:12] <murthy> How to proceed with the above bug? It is resolved as downstream, but the bug is actually in libarchive. The comments in libarchive git page say its fixed in the latest version. Should I file for an package update request in launchpad? [11:23] <debfx> murthy: you can file a bug against the libarchive package. unless there is a new upstream release the way forward is to find and cherry-pick the commit that fixes the issue. [11:25] <murthy> debfx: no upstream stable release on libarchive. Will ubuntu do a downsteam patch? [11:26] <debfx> yes, if it's not too invasive. [11:27] <debfx> putting the latest libarchive git snapshot into the archive is however not an option. [11:27] <murthy> ya i know [11:30] <murthy> Ok I will file a request to patch libarchive downstream [11:34] <murthy> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libarchive/+bug/1460038 [11:36] <murthy> There is this bug report for libarchive already in launchpad [11:37] <BluesKaj> ahh , no wonder I couldn't get a downloaded widget zip file to work, good find murthy! [11:38] <BluesKaj> it was a cpu temperature monitor widget built for plasma 5 [11:39] <murthy> BluesKaj: thank you. I am trying to get this bug fixed soon. I was not aware it cant extract the widgets too. So can you extract with any other archive managers? [11:41] <BluesKaj> murthy, normally I use unp, but for convenience sake i triek ark "extarct here" [11:41] <BluesKaj> err tried [11:42] <BluesKaj> I just thought the file was corrupted when built , not when it was extracted [11:42] <murthy> BluesKaj: ok should I change the status in the bug report from new to confirmed? [11:42] <BluesKaj> yes [11:44] <BluesKaj> if that's possible with out it being examined by the devs first , unless you're one [11:45] <murthy> done changing the status [11:46] <murthy> I am dev? [11:46] <BluesKaj> developer? [11:46] <murthy> ya I know, but I am? [11:48] <BluesKaj> usually a confirmation is required by another launchpad memeber, I think, the devs usually get the bug assigned to be triaged for fixing [11:48] <BluesKaj> err member [11:49] <murthy> I thought the membership expires after certain time? no? [11:49] <BluesKaj> if you were a dev you'd be a kubuntu or ubuntu member [11:50] <murthy> BluesKaj: https://launchpad.net/~murthy [11:51] <BluesKaj> maybe someone could clarify the membership/developer status relationship [11:53] <BluesKaj> murthy, https://launchpad.net/~kaj , a launchpad member isn't necessarily a dev as you can see :-) [11:54] <lordievader> Developers should have a launchpad account, else they cannot upload things to the archive. [11:54] <murthy> BluesKaj: Can I bookmark your profile page? [11:56] <BluesKaj> murthy, if you wish, but it's just old me :-) [11:57] <murthy> BluesKaj: Actually I feel happy to know you. Thanks [11:58] <BluesKaj> ok [12:00] <BluesKaj> nice to know you too, murthy [12:00] <murthy> :) [13:33] <BluesKaj> 'Morning mparillo_, tsimpson [13:57] <mparillo_> Good morning BluesKaj. Are you using Konversation? The auto-spell-check stopped working for me on konversation Version 1.6 Using KDE Frameworks 5.9.0 [14:00] <BluesKaj> mparillo_, yes, same here ..gave up on spell check ;/ [14:05] <mparillo_> OK then I will file a bug. [14:37] <mparillo_> BluesKaj: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=349151 [14:53] <BluesKaj> mparillo_, that url doesn't give an option to confirm your bug, otherwise i would. [16:15] <mparillo_> Thank you, I believe on B.K.O (unlike launchpad.net), you need a certain karma or authority to officially confirm a bug. But, you can comment on it to that effect. [16:57] <soee_> someone had problems upgrading /var/cache/apt/archives/libqtkeychain0_0.5_amd64.deb ? [17:56] <Quintasan> aw shit [17:57] <Quintasan> wine can't be installed with xorg-edgers ppa which in turn allows me to play games [17:57] <Quintasan> bloody hell [18:30] <ejat> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11715754/ [18:30] <ejat> can i ignore? [18:33] <ejat> bugs 1464753 [21:33] <micahg> COuld I please get someone to look at a build failure for zygrib, it's the last piece of the puzzle for the libproj transition, here's the end of the build log that fails, this works in Debian, so I think it has to do with the new qwt 6.1.1, but I'm not so familiar with Qt libraries [21:33] <micahg> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11716623/ [22:04] <debfx> micahg: from a quick look: qwt doesn't care/known about ABI compatibility. zygrib uses bundled qwt 6.0 headers but links against system qwt 6.1 [22:04] <debfx> -> big mess [22:05] <micahg> sigh [22:06] <micahg> I guess I could try the system headers, alternatively, there's a 7.0.0, not sure what's easiest ehre [22:07] <debfx> ok, so qwt also happily removes entire header files [22:07] <debfx> so just using the system header files won't work
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2015-06-14-#ubuntu-br
[00:20] <gfa_> oi boa noite [00:21] <astroo-> ola [03:47] <astroo-> ciao pessoal [03:47] <oliverio> astroo-, opa! [03:47] <oliverio> astroo-, conseguiu algum desenvolver pra tocar o projeto? [03:47] <astroo-> ola e talvez [03:48] <oliverio> astroo-, seu projeto é muito bom, sinto que você vai longe com ele.. [03:49] <astroo-> este ano e o ultimo que tento a serio po-lo vivo [03:49] <astroo-> paciencia e hipoteses tem limites [03:50] <oliverio> nunca desista! [03:50] <astroo-> ao fim de 4 anos se nada acontecer fica na "prateleira" [03:52] <oliverio> relaxa, daqui uns dias você consegue colocar esse projeto em prática. a idéia é boa! [03:52] <oliverio> você pensa em ser concorrente direto do wikipedia? [03:53] <astroo-> quase nada haver [03:53] <astroo-> ate calculo que ao fim de 2 anos de meu projeto a wikipedia vai crescer 4x mais por haver muito mais pessoas cultas [03:54] <astroo-> e a wikimedia deseja boa sorte ao projeto [03:56] <astroo-> e o mundo linux iria ganhar imenso [03:57] <oliverio> o pcfeduardo tinha comentado comigo que estava pensando na possibilidade de ajudar [03:57] <oliverio> conversou com ele já? [03:57] <astroo-> a nao pensar na parte android que essa ja esta bem organizada [03:58] <astroo-> sim [03:59] <oliverio> ele deve ta acessando o IRC jájá, foi ali num aniversário de criança [04:24] <cyborg_> boa noite a todos [16:29] <sistematico> Boa tarde [20:18] <EllieGoulding> boa tarde :) [20:41] <astroo-> ola pessoal [21:37] <xGrind> eae [21:39] <astroo-> xGrind ola
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2015-06-14-#ubuntu-rs
[00:37] <vid2001> Zdravo , imam pitanje [00:37] <vid2001> Podigao sam dual-boot na mom kompjuteru i koristim Linux Ubuntu 13.02.Pri logovanju nailazim na upit da li zelim da se prijavim kao gost.Jedini nalog na mom Linuxu je Guest nalog i root nalog.Root nalogu ne mogu da pristupim zato sto ne znam lozinku za njega.Probao sam gomilu Unixovih passworda ali ni jedan nije prosao.Pristup "sudo" opciji nemam.Interesuje me da li postoji resenje za moj problem i ako postoji voleo bih da znam [00:38] <vid2001> Voleo bih da dobijem odgovor ako neko zna sta da radim [00:40] <vid2001> Podigao sam dual-boot na mom kompjuteru i koristim Linux Ubuntu 13.02.Pri logovanju nailazim na upit da li zelim da se prijavim kao gost.Jedini nalog na mom Linuxu je Guest nalog i root nalog.Root nalogu ne mogu da pristupim zato sto ne znam lozinku za njega.Probao sam gomilu Unixovih passworda ali ni jedan nije prosao.Pristup "sudo" opciji nemam.Interesuje me da li postoji resenje za moj problem i ako postoji voleo bih da znam
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2015-06-14-#ubuntu-locoteams
[07:18] <Kilos> morning all [16:53] <Rajiv_> Hello [16:53] <Kilos> hi Rajiv_ [16:53] <Rajiv_> Actually i had one question. Please execute me if i am at the wrong place. [16:54] <Rajiv_> excuse :-) [16:54] <Kilos> lol [16:54] <Kilos> the correct channel to get help is #ubuntu [16:54] <Kilos> do you know how to join there? [16:54] <Rajiv_> What is the procedure to join the LoCo team? [16:55] <Rajiv_> Sorry.. no [16:55] <Kilos> if you want to join the loco team then you can get help here [16:56] <Rajiv_> Thank You... Is there any specific requirement needed? [16:56] <Kilos> but to join other channels you type in /j #channel name [16:56] <Kilos> you need to be an ubuntu member [16:56] <Kilos> where are you? [16:57] <Rajiv_> Sorry if my question was unclear... What is needed to become an ubuntu member... I am from Mauritius.... [16:57] <Kilos> oh you have a group there , let me see if i can find them [16:58] <Kilos> read this so long https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Forums/Membership [16:58] <Rajiv_> Thank You.. One more question... Do you guys do programming? [16:59] <Rajiv_> Thank You.. One more question... Do you guys do programming? [16:59] <Kilos> many do [17:00] <Rajiv_> Which language do they do and for whom? [17:00] <Kilos> all the languages i think [17:00] <Kilos> http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-mu/ [17:01] <Kilos> thats the mauritius team [17:01] <Kilos> they will guide you [17:01] <Kilos> join their mailing list [17:01] <Rajiv_> Thank you. [17:02] <Kilos> you are welcome [17:04] <Kilos> Rajiv_ you can also join #ubuntu-africa [17:05] <Kilos> go see http://ubuntu-africa.info
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2015-06-14-#ubuntu-desktop
[07:26] <happyaron> attente: fresh installation works, wonders why...
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2015-06-14-#xubuntu-devel
[03:19] <Unit193> micahg: Not sure if you were going to snag them, or if one of us should. But between your change to desktop and a reminder that xubuntu-restricted-* exist, gstreamer0.10 can be dropped from there too I'd think. [03:20] <micahg> ah, ok, cool [03:20] * micahg will take a look in a bit [03:20] <micahg> also, the ISO seems oversized [03:20] <Unit193> Awesome, thanks. [03:20] <Unit193> Yeah, likely due to LO. [03:20] <micahg> no, I think it has to do with some of the desktop packages switching to python3 [03:21] <Unit193> Ah I was wondering just recently what's holding our ISO on python2, bluesabre usually makes his compatible with both, or easily portable. [03:21] <micahg> I was going to look into that [07:25] <pleia2> knome: I added a couple questions to the end of the document for context/intent [07:36] <pleia2> knome: also, thanks re: distrowatch updates, however that came on your radar :) [09:07] <pleia2> now that the server static.x.o is on can talk to bzr, updating will be easier \o/ (can even put it in a cron job if we want) [09:08] <pleia2> on my Sunday I'll spend some time making sure everything is in bzr and repulling everything directly from bzr, unless there are objections [09:09] <pleia2> a .bzr directory will exist, but I don't think we care [17:48] <micahg> bluesabre: Unit193: I'm not so sure about updating the restricted addons, other non-xubuntu programs might need the libraries until the whole archive is migrated, do we care? [17:56] <Unit193> 0.10 is dead, and clementine looks like the biggest user. [18:09] <micahg> I agree conceptually, but it might result in a few more bug reports until the whole archive is migrated [18:13] <ochosi> evening all [18:13] <ochosi> hm, we still have python2 stuff? [18:17] <ochosi> micahg: do we already know what's pulling in python2? [18:17] <micahg> no idea, about to look [18:18] <micahg> apt-offline is one [18:19] <micahg> apt-xapian-index [18:19] <micahg> blueman [18:20] <ochosi> meh, blueman [18:22] <micahg> gconf [18:22] <ochosi> https://github.com/blueman-project/blueman/issues/19 [18:24] <micahg> gnome-doc-utils [18:25] <ochosi> blueman gets python3 support with 2.0 [18:25] <ochosi> (which has been released already) [18:25] <ochosi> (21 days ago, to be exact) [18:25] <micahg> it's in Debian [18:26] <micahg> Debian is still building with python2 [18:26] <micahg> I guess I can merge and switch to python3, but it doesn't do us much good until the rest is migrated [18:26] <ochosi> ofc [18:27] <ochosi> i'm putting this list on the whiteboard, one sec [18:27] <ochosi> feel free to fill in more details where you see fit: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/xubuntu-w-development [18:29] <ochosi> seems like didrocks has started to work on gconf: https://code.launchpad.net/~didrocks/gconf/python3 [18:29] <ochosi> should be fixed in wily already [18:29] <ochosi> (3 days ago) [18:35] <knome> pleia2, np; there was that person telling us that system requirements are "too hard to find" - he had wandered to our site via distrowatch... [18:36] <pleia2> knome: ah, I see the connection now :) [18:37] <knome> though that doesn't explain anything in his case - anyway, since i bumped into it... [18:40] * pleia2 nods [18:48] * ochosi tests a new music player (lollypop, has a few annoying depends though) [18:56] <knome> pleia2, btw, wrote replies on the pad (and added some context in the text itself) [18:58] <ochosi> knome, pleia2: i think the ssl discussion is up to the two of you, i don't know enough about it (in other words: i trust your judgement) [18:59] <knome> ochosi, yeah yeah, just wanted you to know what's happening :) [18:59] <ochosi> good .) [19:00] <pleia2> knome: oh thanks, I'll have a look [19:09] <pleia2> knome: oh, shall I social media our shiny new get involved page? [19:09] <knome> we could do that :) [19:09] <knome> let's draft a nice blurp [19:09] <pleia2> ok [19:10] <pleia2> also, I put the 14M Edubuntu-Xubuntu 14.04 Quickstart Guide pdf from Computer Reach on static.x.o but didn't put it in bzr because I'm a bad person, should I, or would a 14M pdf in the repo ruin your life? [19:10] <knome> lol [19:11] <knome> oh btw [19:11] * knome facepalms [19:11] <knome> did you look at the document? [19:11] <pleia2> it was too big to upload to wordpress [19:11] <pleia2> yeah, why? [19:11] <knome> you need to tell them to use our new logo. [19:11] <pleia2> oh, that [19:11] <knome> and i guess the new ubuntu logo [19:12] <knome> and new edubuntu logo [19:12] <pleia2> I did, but updating this isn't high on their priority list, and I've snagged them to help me with my non-profit [19:12] <knome> hahah! [19:12] <knome> what's their source format? [19:12] <pleia2> I don't know [19:12] <pleia2> probably something not awesome [19:12] <knome> if they're willing to share it, point them to send it to me, and i'll look for updating it [19:13] <knome> don't they have this available on their own website? [19:13] <pleia2> maybe in a few weeks, I need to stop asking them things :) [19:13] <pleia2> no, it's on dropbox [19:13] <knome> i'd imagine that would be a nice thing, somebody else doing them things :P [19:13] <knome> they just need to send me the source [19:13] <knome> and i'll return it to them modified with the new logos [19:13] <knome> well considering i can edit the source format [19:14] <knome> their website has the *old* logo too [19:14] <knome> i thikn that's snatched from the old *website* [19:14] <knome> and their website breaks if you stretch it around :( [19:17] <pleia2> websites, eh? [19:17] <knome> well, you *can* do it right... [19:19] <pleia2> alas, non-profit budgets [19:19] <knome> i know [19:35] <brainwash__> any opinions on bug 1459417 ? [19:36] <brainwash__> "On Microsoft Windows systems, this is properly handled." [19:55] <knome> i wonder if the locale is designed to hold that kind of information [19:55] <knome> and yeah, the xkbmaps could handle this [20:21] <knome> pleia2, so for the social media stuff: [20:22] <knome> pleia2, Our newly improved Get Involved page makes it even easier to start contributing and help Xubuntu! [20:22] <knome> just the starting point... [20:23] <pleia2> that's a good initial post :) [20:23] <knome> ok, want to change spelling or sth or shall i just tweet? [20:23] <pleia2> go for it, I'll FB and G+ [20:24] <knome> tweeted [20:27] <pleia2> others done too [20:27] <knome> good good [20:28] <pleia2> knome: oh yeah, so should I add the pdf to the static bzr repo? [20:29] <knome> let's worry about that later [20:29] <pleia2> well, now that we have bzr ability on the server I was hoping to switch the static stuff over to the pulled in bzr repo rather than just uploading manually and adding the .pdf manually [20:30] <pleia2> haven't updated to latest static content changes since I was going to do it all at once [20:30] <pleia2> but I can wait if we want to worry about it later [20:32] <pleia2> lunch time with the husband now, bbiab [20:38] <knome> maybe you can just .bzrignore a directory [20:39] <knome> then you can keep it unversioned until we decide to add it [20:39] <knome> (if we decide to) [21:03] <Unit193> micahg: Oh hey ,since you seem to be around. https://sigma.unit193.net/source/xfce4-eyes-plugin_4.4.4-0ubuntu1.dsc - https://sigma.unit193.net/source/xfce4-time-out-plugin_1.0.2-0ubuntu1.dsc or http://pad.lv/ppa/unit193/staging [21:46] <micahg> Unit193: I;m getting P: xfce4-time-out-plugin: copyright-with-old-dh-make-debian-copyright on the timeout package [21:47] <Unit193> Yeah it's the old copyright format. [21:48] <micahg> planning to fix at some point? [21:58] <Unit193> I had hoped to leave that for the next person, d/copyright files can be a major pain. :/ [21:58] <Unit193> (cdbs has helped me learn to hate them.) [22:09] <Unit193> If it's needed, I could of course. [22:10] <micahg> hrm, well, eventually, would be good for getting into Debian [22:10] <micahg> I can upload without it for now [22:11] <Unit193> Nothing in wnpp for this one, for the other there's Debian #407380.
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2015-06-14-#ubuntu-de-l10n
[16:48] <phillip> gandaro: kannst du toddy auch voice geben? Danke. :)
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2015-06-14-#ubuntu-nl
[09:23] <lordievader> Goede morgen. [11:51] <vanschagen> goeie middag Lordievader [13:42] <Ubuntu-robin> Goeiemiddag [13:42] <Ubuntu-robin> Misschien weet iemand hier het volgende... [13:43] <Ubuntu-robin> Ik ben op zoek naar een gratis site builder voor mijn website [13:43] <Ubuntu-robin> Iemand een optie ? [13:46] <Ubuntu-robin> Alvast bedankt voor de reactie(s)
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2015-06-14-#ubuntu-us-mi
[11:38] <tony-smlr> SMLR E153 (6/14/2015) Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiD-Kbk4HYA Audio: http://live.smlr.us:8000/streaming [14:42] <cmaloney> Good morning [15:30] <_stink_> yo [17:36] <wolfger> -yo [19:48] <cmaloney> yo + yo = yoyo [21:05] <wolfger> otherwise known as PainBank, I believe.... All this guy does is "pop in"
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2015-06-14-#ubuntu-pt
[03:46] <astroo-> ciao pessoal [20:41] <astroo-> ola pessoal
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2015-06-30-#ubuntu-se
[13:00] <molgrum> "HTTPS och SSL kommer inte fungera i och med den ompekning du gör på webbkontot med en frame samt att det inte fungerar på vårat webbhotell. Jag har dock framfört ditt önskemål om att göra detta möjligt." [13:00] <molgrum> bahnhof [13:01] <molgrum> hoppas det blir möjligt, men han sa att egentligen ska man inte kunna hosta websidor på det sättet jag gör :) [13:01] <molgrum> man ska använda deras webhotell ist [13:02] <Laban> På vilket sätt gör du då? [13:03] <molgrum> jag ställer in så att min domän går till en sida som innehåller en frame med mitt ip [13:04] <molgrum> det finns också möjligheten att omdirigera direkt till mitt ip-nummer men då syns det i adress-rutan vilket ser fult ut [13:04] <Laban> Typ så framen går till http://123.123.123.123? [13:04] <molgrum> japp [13:04] <molgrum> exakt så [13:04] <Laban> Känns ju lite meningslöst med SSL då. [13:05] <molgrum> varför det? [13:05] <molgrum> jag ska hosta git och owncloud på sidan också [13:05] <Laban> Det är ju bara anslutningen till själva domänen som blir krypterad. [13:05] <Laban> Inte anslutningen mot ditt IP. [13:05] <molgrum> jo precis [13:05] <Laban> Såvida du inte har cert för den också. [13:06] <molgrum> du menar att det inte går att ha en index.html för SSL då, och ha den framen att peka på https? [13:07] <Laban> Jo du kan ju köra framen mot https://12.12.12.12/ [13:08] <Laban> Gäller ju bara att den webbservern också är uppsatt med SSL, och att du har ett giltigt cert. [13:08] <molgrum> ja, fast jag menar att ha en för http och en för https. går det? [13:09] <Laban> Du kommer att få felmeddelanden i browsern om att vissa resurser inte är säkra, på en annars säker anslutning. [13:10] <Laban> För allt som går mot http://12.12.12.12/ är okrypterat, det är bara det mot https://dindoman.se som är krypterat. [13:10] <molgrum> aha [13:11] <molgrum> får tänka till lite om jag vill att ip-numret visas, tror https ska fungera då [13:13] <Laban> Bättre att lägga in en redirect på dindoman.se till https://12.12.12.12/. [13:13] <Laban> Sedan är det ju upp till dig om du vill ha ett självsignerat cert, eller om du kan få ett mot 12.12.12.12 [13:13] <molgrum> för mina ändamål kan jag skaffa ett signerat cert för $9/år [13:14] <molgrum> comodo tror jag [13:14] <Laban> Eller gratis med startssl, om det är för personligt bruk. [13:14] <molgrum> startssl? ska kolla upp [13:15] <molgrum> det är för vänner och släkt mestadels [13:15] <molgrum> men att hamna på google är ett plus :) [13:15] <Laban> Bra val för övrigt med ownCloud. [13:16] <molgrum> jag kör allting på en Pi1 [13:16] <molgrum> :) [13:16] <molgrum> funkar bra hittills [13:16] <molgrum> jag har inte testat owncloud än dock [13:17] <Laban> Lägg in en pi.dindomän.se istället för att greja med ip-adressen hela tiden... [13:17] <Laban> Eller helt enkelt www.dindoman.se [13:19] <molgrum> då måste jag betala mer för ssl :P [13:19] <molgrum> om jag ska ha subdomäner alltså [13:20] <Laban> Med startssl så får du huvud+en sub. [13:21] <molgrum> http://www.noip.com/support/knowledgebase/asus-ddns/ [13:23] <Laban> NoIP har jag kört med i många år, men nu för tiden använder jag en egen sådan tjänst istället. [13:23] <molgrum> undrar bara hur fasen allt fungerar :) [13:23] <molgrum> visste inte om DDNS innan [13:23] <Laban> Kör curl eller wget mot en uppdateringssida bara som i sin tur uppdaterar DNS:en. [13:23] <Laban> Eller det är så min är iaf. :) [13:24] <molgrum> kan jag snygga till att ipt visas med en DDNS? [13:25] <molgrum> eller jag fattar inte riktigt :) [13:25] <molgrum> om jag omdirigerar direkt alltså [13:26] <Laban> Ja tanken är då att du inte behöver visa IP:t i adressen. [13:26] <molgrum> aha [13:26] <molgrum> så det visas typ molgrum.noip.com? [13:26] <Laban> Japp [13:26] <molgrum> låter ju so men lösning [13:26] <molgrum> som* [13:26] <molgrum> men då måste jag fippla i routern alltså? [13:27] <Laban> Nja, har du fast IP? [13:27] <Laban> Bahnhof gillar väl det.... [13:27] <ePax> 0_o [13:27] <molgrum> inte säker faktiskt [13:27] <molgrum> glömde fråga dwet :* [13:28] <Laban> Om du inte vet, så har du det troligen inte :) [13:29] <Laban> Så visst, det kan vara smart att lägga in det i routern då. [13:30] <molgrum> aha [13:30] <molgrum> routern uppdaterar åt mig automatiskt? [13:30] <molgrum> så jag slipper göra det [13:31] <molgrum> varje månad, hemska tanke [13:33] <Laban> Ja lite så =) [13:34] <Laban> Har varit med om att hålla samma tilldelade adress i flera år [13:36] <molgrum> Laban: så jag pekar mot en noip.com-adress? direkt omstyrning [13:38] <molgrum> märkligt system dom har men men [14:04] <Laban> Ja gör det. Antar att de lägger ett CNAME mot din noip då, [14:12] <molgrum> Laban: CNAME? [14:53] <molgrum> hmm, min router vill ha användarnamn + epost i nån sorts kombination, hur ska jag göra? [14:53] <molgrum> för DDNS [14:56] <molgrum> aha, verkar vara antinge neller [14:56] <molgrum> det var väldigt oklart :) [14:57] <andol> molgrum: Låter som om att din router har inbyggt stöd för någon DDNS-tjänst. Tycker du att den fungerar obra kan du ju alltid låta din hemmaserver prata direkt med lämplig DDNS-tjänst. [14:57] <molgrum> jag har precis skapat en ddns [14:57] <molgrum> :) [14:57] <molgrum> konfar bar aroutern nu [14:59] <molgrum> "registrering lyckades" :D [15:02] <molgrum> nej, det går inte med https :( [15:03] <andol> molgrum: Vad går inte med https? [15:04] <molgrum> andol: gjorde en direkt omstryning istället till min ddns, men https ger fel certifikat [15:04] <andol> molgrum: Vad menar du med direkt omstyrning? [15:04] <molgrum> andol: att den sätter ddns-namnet i adresrutan [15:05] <molgrum> svårt att förklara, jag vet inte hur bahnhof tänker :) [15:06] <andol> Alltså, det fält som anges i adress-fältet måste stämma överens med certifikatets CN alt ASN. [15:06] * andol gissar att han förstått mer ifall han läst backlog bättre. [15:06] <molgrum> ja alltså om jag pekar till någon ip så kommer det http:// och / runtom [15:06] <molgrum> i själva confen [15:06] <molgrum> jag kan inte peka till någon ip direkt [15:07] <andol> Ahh, låter som en implementationsdetalj någonstans. [15:07] <molgrum> jag lade fram os mönskemål att tillåta https iaf, supporten skule framföra det [15:07] <molgrum> som* [15:08] <molgrum> skriver som en kratta på detta tangentbordet [15:09] <molgrum> om jag går in på min https-sida via routern så kommer mitt namn upp korrekt [15:09] <molgrum> antar att dom inte redirectar port 443 [15:22] <molgrum> inte helt klart om jag måste in på noip varje månad, men men får se.. dom lär skicka ett mail [15:25] <ePax> molgrum: Gör så här. Kollpa in en mobil till din dator/server/whatever du har hemma. Fixa gammu. Om IPn ändras och du hittar inte din server så sms-ar du till din (det härär görbart med en liten bash skript) Gammu mobil exempelvis "whats my ip" :) Så skickar den tillbaka korrekt IP med SMS. :) [15:25] <ePax> Koppla* [15:26] <molgrum> ePax: låter omständigt :) [15:28] <ePax> molgrum: Kul (; Då kan du uppdatera servrar med sms starta om osv (; [19:30] <molgrum> hmm, måste man besöka noip.com för att den inte ska släppa eller kan min router göra det åt mig? [19:31] <molgrum> har en ASUS N56U
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