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2015-06-27-#ubuntu-pl
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[02:15] <Ashiren> happy Caturday
[02:15] <Ashiren> :3 https://i.imgur.com/rXFGZFe.jpg
[08:47] <Ashiren> :3 https://i.imgur.com/whsSTdI.jpg
[08:49] <kklimonda> cats :3
[09:24] <Ashiren> o.o https://i.imgur.com/ldQoIPW.jpg
[10:33] <a55h0l3> jak zapchac komus skrzynke mailowa?
[10:34] <Dread> wziąć siekierę i odpieprzyć sobie łeb.
[10:35] <a55h0l3> Dread: daruj sobie, chce sie zemscic na swojej ex... help
[10:36] <Dread> to idź i jej przypieprz, boże.
[10:36] <a55h0l3> pomoze ktos?
[10:38] <TheNumb> a55h0l3: dolny śląsk
[10:38] <a55h0l3> TheNumb: ? :)
[10:38] <TheNumb> no pytasz się czy pomorze ktoś
[10:38] <a55h0l3> hehe
[10:39] <a55h0l3> pytalem czy pomoze a to roznica ;)
[10:39] <a55h0l3> nie badzcie tacy pomozcie :P
[10:40] <TheNumb> ssij kij
[10:40] <TheNumb> czego byś nie zrobił tak filtr antyspamowy ciebie wytnie
[10:40] <a55h0l3> aha
[10:41] <a55h0l3> spoko dzieki spadam a Ty tez ssij kij
[10:41] <TheNumb> taki kozaczek
[10:41] <TheNumb> :^)
[10:45] <mati75> cóż wakacje idą
[10:50] <Mattti> nom
[11:03] <illumanti> ;-)
[12:21] <Ashiren> aww https://i.imgur.com/cIGVrFI.gifv
[12:59] <gjm> co tu się
[13:03] <denysonique> https://www.facebook.com/celebratepride
[13:05] <gjm> stahp
[14:26] <drathir> bry...
[14:28] <monto_> bry
[14:33] <monto_> cicho tu
[14:35] <TheNumb> nikogo nie ma
[14:35] <TheNumb> przyjdź później
[14:35] <monto_> hihihi
[14:40] <drathir> ;o
[14:40] <drathir> toz to ruch jak nie wiem...
[14:55] <Ashiren> :3 https://i.imgur.com/FkLOG3H.jpg
[14:59] <CookieM> hug me http://i.imgur.com/QbgBBjZ.webm
[16:05] <m477> ja jestem
[16:28] <Mattti> u
[16:28] <Mattti> strach się bać
[16:33] <Ashiren> :3 http://www.dinkidimainecoons.net/uploads/2/9/0/4/2904295/3656829.jpg?705
[16:36] <Ashiren> :3 http://i.imgur.com/rGBEy3e.jpg
[19:05] <Ashiren> :3 https://i.imgur.com/Sj91LSu.jpg
[20:15] <Ashiren> :p https://i.imgur.com/uTP9WCj.jpg
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:36.176194
| 2015-06-27T00:00:00 |
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"CookieM",
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2015-06-27-#ubuntu-tr
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[17:35] <Conqueror> selam
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:36.177213
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2015-06-27-#ubuntu+1
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[11:38] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:39] <penguin42> hey BK
[11:47] <BluesKaj> hey penguin42
[15:39] <hyper_ch> Hi there, I noticed something strange. I did download the ubuntu mini iso for wily and wanted to do an install because I want to have a raid1 with 1 disk on my notebook. However it has issues with my intel gigabit ethernet and I had to attach an ancient usb wifi stick. However the problem I couldn't solve was that it did not detect my SSD.
[15:39] <hyper_ch> I tried then the same with current utopic mini iso. Same issues with wifi and again no SSD detected. I went to a different tty and check /dev/disk/by-id and only the usb stick was there
[15:40] <hyper_ch> any suggestion?
[15:40] <penguin42> it's odd not to detect an ssd
[15:41] <penguin42> hyper_ch: How is the ssd connected - just normal ssd?
[15:41] <hyper_ch> penguin42: samsung 840 pro attached on the notebook's internal sata 3 connector
[15:41] <hyper_ch> Sysinfo for 'subi': Running inside KDE Plasma 5 on Ubuntu 15.04 (Vivid Vervet) powered by Linux 3.19.0-22-generic, CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4200U CPU @ 1.60GHz at 998-1656/2600 MHz, RAM: 4781/15489 MB, Storage: 355/469 GB, 259 procs, 0.11h up
[15:42] <hyper_ch> so I'm pondering to try the server install and then just add kubuntu-desktop
[15:42] <hyper_ch> but what else is changed in the server edition?
[15:42] <penguin42> hyper_ch: OK, so hmm, so if you can get a shell on the mini iso I'd check cat /proc/partitions to see if the ssd is showing up that far, and also check lspci to see if the ether and sata controllers are visible
[15:43] <hyper_ch> penguin42: feeling like to troubleshoot it? if so, I boot up the other notebook and re-try... otherwise I might give the server edition a try
[15:43] <penguin42> hyper_ch: I'm around, so feel free to ask
[15:44] <hyper_ch> ok, let's boot up the other notebook
[15:52] <hyperch> so, almost ready regarding the missing ssd
[15:54] <penguin42> good
[15:54] <hyperch> veracrypt takes long to load
[15:55] <hyperch> it's doing hardware detection
[15:56] <hyperch> so, selected manual partitioning -> only the usb stick is shown
[15:56] <hyperch> ok, am in terminal, what should I check?
[15:56] <hyperch> lspci and /proc/partitions ?
[15:56] <penguin42> cat /proc/partitions
[15:57] <hyperch> penguin42: only sda and sda1 listed which is the usb stick
[15:57] <penguin42> hyperch: OK, can you do an lspci now and see if you can see the sata controller and ether controller?
[15:58] <hyperch> well, it did detect the ethernet (but not internal wifi) but couldn't get dhcp connection
[15:59] <penguin42> ok, is the sata controller there?
[15:59] <hyperch> as for sata: SATA controller: Intel Corporation 8 Series SATA Controller (AHCI mode) (rev 04)
[16:00] <penguin42> hmm good, ok, then dmesg to search for messages from the sata controller
[16:00] <hyperch> also: Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd RTL111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller
[16:00] <hyperch> and: Network controller: Intel Corporation Wireless 7260
[16:00] <penguin42> excellent
[16:01] <hyperch> but installer didn't show internal wifi at all
[16:01] <hyperch> dmesg | grep -i sata
[16:01] <penguin42> if you can pastebin the dmesg it might help
[16:01] <hyperch> ACPI: SSDT 0xa-lot-of-hex 000313 v01 hpqoem sataahci 00001000 intl 20110112
[16:02] <hyperch> ahci 000:00:1f.2: ahci 0001.0300 32 slots 2 ports 6 gpbs 0x1 impl sata mode
[16:02] <hyperch> ata1: sata max udma/133 abar m2048@0xHEX... port 0xHEX.... irg 46
[16:03] <penguin42> best to pastebin
[16:03] <hyperch> ata 1 SATA link up 6.0 Gbps (SStatus 133 SControl 300)
[16:03] <hyperch> how to pastebin?
[16:03] <hyperch> ata1: limit sata link speed to 3.0 gbps
[16:03] <penguin42> do you have networking?
[16:03] <hyperch> can't install pastebinit
[16:04] <hyperch> yes, networking works with the usb wifi
[16:04] <penguin42> hmm pastebinit was what I was going to suggest
[16:04] <hyperch> it's mini install cd shell
[16:04] <hyperch> apt-get: not found ;)
[16:06] <hyperch> but I have another way
[16:07] <hyperch> http://images.sjau.ch/img/37e8dfb4.jpg
[16:08] <hyperch> penguin42: git it?
[16:08] <hyperch> got
[16:09] <hyperch> I'll try with server cd now
[16:11] * penguin42 looks
[16:12] <penguin42> hyperch: Problem is it doesn't have the rest of the log
[16:12] <hyperch> well, what else to grep for?
[16:12] <hyperch> problem is I can't pastebin the file
[16:12] <hyperch> I can only take pics
[16:12] <penguin42> hyperch: Can you get the whole of dmesg off by copying it to a usb stick?
[16:13] <hyperch> I could do that
[16:13] <hyperch> lets see how server acts
[16:13] <penguin42> I mean that all looks good, it sees a sata controller
[16:14] <hyperch> no dhcp either on internal ethernet card
[16:14] <hyperch> intel wireless not recognized
[16:15] <hyperch> need again external wifi stick
[16:18] <hyperch> this is weird.... server didn't recognize either
[16:19] <penguin42> that doesn't surprise me; if it's a kernel driver problem it's probably the same kernel
[16:20] <hyperch> well, trying to get the dmesg onto a stick
[16:20] <hyperch> but can't figre out hw
[16:21] <hyperch> copy syslog?7
[16:21] <penguin42> well if you've got the stick mounted then just do dmesg > /path/to/the/stick
[16:22] <hyperch> brb
[16:25] <hyper_ch> penguin42: hmmm, could the current raid1 setup be an issue
[16:25] <hyper_ch> pasting now
[16:26] <hyper_ch> penguin42: https://paste.debian.net/261923/
[16:28] <hyper_ch> lines 761-774 look weird
[16:34] <penguin42> hyper_ch: Can you explain your raid1 setup?
[16:36] <penguin42> hyper_ch: 648etc explain why your wifi isn't working - it's missing the firmware package
[16:38] <penguin42> hyper_ch: And yes, 761-774 show your problem - it's found the controller but it's failing to perform the most basic sata commands on the drive
[16:47] <penguin42> hyper_ch: So file a kernel bug for it
[16:50] <hyperch> penguin42: so, back again
[16:50] <hyperch> did you write anything?
[16:51] <hyperch> I tried to dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda to get rid of the partition stuff
[16:51] <hyperch> and then I tried the mini again, still not recognized
[16:51] <penguin42> hyperch: It looks like a kernel bug, just file it
[16:51] <hyperch> so now I'm dd-ing backup my previous backup
[16:51] <hyperch> penguin42: problem is same happened with utopic also
[16:51] <hyperch> s/dd-ing/dcfldd-ing/
[16:52] <hyperch> and I did install utopic from beta mini
[16:52] <hyperch> file at ubuntu's launchpad? or linux kernel?
[16:53] <penguin42> ubuntu launchpad
[16:53] <hyperch> hmmm, I wonder now how I can convert from ext4 to btrfs
[16:53] <penguin42> oh I think there is a converter for that, haven't tried btrfs for a while
[16:54] <hyperch> it's encrypted raid1
[16:54] <penguin42> encrypted by what?
[16:54] <penguin42> standard luks ?
[16:54] <hyperch> yes
[16:55] <penguin42> ok, that's not related then since it's not got as far as finding the underlying disk
[16:55] <hyperch> -> /boot is just raid1 and / is encrypted raid1 (dmcrypt, mdadm) and no swap
[16:59] <penguin42> hang on, you say raid1 - if it's only missing your ssd, where is your other half of your raid?
[16:59] <hyperch> it's raid1 with 1 disk usually
[17:02] <hyperch> I think I'll try again with 15.04 server image and then do upgrade to wily.... let's see if that works
[17:03] <penguin42> so where is your disk?
[17:03] <hyperch> it's the ssd in the notebook
[17:03] <hyperch> but when I make hotcopies, I attach a usb 3.0 disk
[17:03] <hyperch> expand the raid to 2 devices
[17:03] <hyperch> let it sink
[17:04] <hyperch> mark the external disk faulty
[17:04] <hyperch> shrink raid again to 1 device
[17:04] <hyperch> s/sink/sync/
[17:05] <penguin42> oh ok, weird way of doing it, but ok
[17:06] <hyperch> why weird? that way I don't have to power the notebook off
[17:08] * penguin42 tends to backup using the files rather than the disk, but it's ok
[17:08] <hyperch> if I do a server install, what is different from when I do a minimal install and then select kubuntu-desktop or from the desktop cd?
[17:09] <hyperch> well, the goal of doing it that way would be, that if your harddisk in the computer fails, you can just boot from the external backed up disk
[17:09] <hyperch> stil have a few grub issues to sort out but gneerally it works
[17:09] <penguin42> yeh, it's not that bad a way
[17:09] <hyperch> grub starts fine but it sort of complains then... haven't found out the reason yet :)
[17:14] <penguin42> yeh it'll probably be because it's expecting it to be on the bios disk
[17:15] <hyperch> penguin42: http://paste.debian.net/261941/
[17:17] <hyperch> trying now with ubuntu server 15.04
[17:22] <hyperch> now I can't get wifi connection :(
[17:31] <hyperch> but ethernet works and ssd gets detected
[17:52] <hyperch> penguin42: that was now a fight...
[17:53] <penguin42> so 15.04 sees the ssd but 15.10 doesn't ?
[17:54] <hyperch> well, the server cd from 15.04 sees the ssd...
[17:54] <hyperch> while 15.10 doesn't see it at all (neither server nor minimal)
[17:54] <hyperch> I'll test with 15.04 minimal in a bit
[17:55] <hyperch> well, my main reasons for the pain is change to btrfs and make /boot non-raid and also to get systemd 220 :)
[17:55] <penguin42> hyperch: You can do things like find exactly which kernel version broke it
[17:55] <hyperch> I mean what else is there to do on a hot sunny summer's day :)
[17:56] <hyperch> how would I find the exact kernel version? I will upgrade the 15.04 then 15.10
[17:57] <penguin42> hyperch: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ that's got a range of kernel versions - you find which one works, which one doesn't - once you've filed a bug, if you're lucky they'll walk you through it
[17:57] <penguin42> hyperch: If you can build kernels you can use git bisect to find the exact code change
[17:57] <hyperch> that sounds scary :)
[17:58] <hyperch> hmmm, ubuntu server has also nice tasksel for openssh and kubuntu desktop
[17:58] <hyperch> maybe I have used ubuntu server install back in april
[17:59] <hyperch> no need to test the mini iso then but I can straight go ahead upgrade to 15.10 when I'm done
[17:59] <hyperch> as for the upgrade, I'd just alter the sources.list to wily and do dist-upgrade or is there a better option?
[17:59] <BluesKaj> hyperch, 15.10 alpha image is released
[18:00] <hyperch> BluesKaj: as told before in #kubuntu, the installer doesn't find my ssd
[18:00] <BluesKaj> ok , didn't realize it was the 15.10 verson
[18:01] <hyperch> no worries :)
[18:01] <hyperch> penguin42 thinks it's the kernel's fault
[18:01] <penguin42> BluesKaj: dmesg shows it's finding the controller and spits a bunch of errors when trying to send the first command to the drive
[18:09] <BluesKaj> penguin42, still on the mini cd?
[18:10] <hyperch> BluesKaj: errors were both on mini and server for 15.10
[18:10] <hyperch> doing now install on 15.04 and will then upgrade
[18:13] <BluesKaj> hope that works for you hyperch
[18:13] <hyperch> well, can't even boot the 15.04 install
[18:13] <hyperch> this is weird
[18:14] <BluesKaj> how far do you get?
[18:14] <hyperch> well, I installed it
[18:14] <hyperch> but it just keeps rebooting
[18:14] <BluesKaj> when booting
[18:14] <hyperch> not even sure if it gets to grub
[18:15] <hyperch> I set /boot to btrfs
[18:15] <hyperch> and / is encrypted raid1 with btrfs
[18:16] <BluesKaj> try the tty/vt, grub might be 0 hidden time out
[18:16] <hyperch> (on my backup I have /boot as raid1 ext4 and / as raid1 ext4
[18:16] <hyperch> how to try that tty?
[18:16] <BluesKaj> ctl+alt+F1-F6
[18:16] <hyperch> when? it just keeps rebooting
[18:17] <BluesKaj> uhoh
[18:17] <BluesKaj> at he blinking cursor
[18:17] <BluesKaj> the
[18:18] <hyperch> no tty opens
[18:19] <BluesKaj> btrfs...why? my understanding is that file system is unstable and buggy
[18:19] <hyperch> snapshotting
[18:19] <hyperch> probably can do on /boot without
[18:19] <hyperch> let's do another install :)
[18:20] <hyperch> it's a grub issue
[18:20] <hyperch> I entered the 15.04 server usb stick... and forgot to press to boot from it... now I ended up at the luks password entry screen
[18:22] <BluesKaj> not familar territory for me, so not much help from this user :/
[18:22] <hyperch> seems that grub go installed onto the usb stick instead of the ssd
[18:23] <hyperch> opening konsole sudo grub-install /dev/sda fixed the issue :)
[18:27] <hyperch> downloading now wily packages
[18:27] <hyperch> only 400mb
[18:50] <hyperch> ok, upgrade done with a few hiccups.. now lets see if it reboots
[18:51] <hyperch> ok, I'm back in
[19:24] <hyper_ch> so, restoring files and configs and stuff
[19:24] <hyper_ch> kernel seems to work fine... still curious why I couldn't install with it
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:36.182314
| 2015-06-27T00:00:00 |
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"BluesKaj",
"hyper_ch",
"hyperch",
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"channel": "#ubuntu+1"
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2015-06-27-#maas
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[06:24] <amirali> hi kiko
[06:24] <amirali> hi every body
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:36.184684
| 2015-06-27T00:00:00 |
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"authors": [
"amirali"
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2015-06-27-#ubuntu-fi
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[10:33] <Hejkki> moro, mikä toi mail.logissa (dovecot) on tuo hexaluku aina ennen kaksoispistettä?
[10:34] <Hejkki> esim ennen tota from= kohtaa
[10:39] <puhuri> se on viestin jonotunniste eli sen perusteella pystyy mm. saman viestin käsittelyyn liittyvät lokiviestit erottelemaan
[10:41] <puhuri> sama näkyy siis esim. mailq -komennon tulosteessa ja sen perusteella voi tuhota meilejä lähtevistä postsuper-komennolla
[10:42] <Hejkki> entä jos on usealla viestillä sama tunniste? Onko se silloin että on lähetetty samalla yhdistyskerralla useampi viesti?
[11:15] <ansa> ei, se on aina yhden viestin tunniste, mut sama viesti on voitu lähettää moneen paikkaan
[11:34] <Hejkki> ok
[11:39] <Hejkki> jees, kiitoksia, meikä läksii, moro
[13:15] <ky_castillos> :-[
[20:20] <pesasa> http://viikonvalo.fi/Okular
[20:36] <rhkfin_> +1
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:36.188371
| 2015-06-27T00:00:00 |
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"ansa",
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2015-06-27-#ubuntustudio
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[10:41] <baja> hello
[10:41] <cfhowlett> greetings baja
[10:41] <baja> from outerspace...
[10:42] <cfhowlett> nope. only from China.
[10:42] <baja> haha ok
[10:43] <baja> how do i chat private
[10:43] <baja> ?
[10:44] <cfhowlett> with permission and depending on your irc client ....
[23:31] <ubuntu-studio> dark table
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:36.191201
| 2015-06-27T00:00:00 |
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2015-06-27-#ubuntu-hr
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[07:06] <Vlado9A3CY> krumpiiiiiiiraaaaaaa :)
[07:17] <SilverSpace> ne treba :)
[07:28] <lizard_ago> pozdrav svima
[08:00] <Vlado9A3CY> jutro lizard_ago :)
[08:02] <Vlado9A3CY> iznervirale me neke objave na necurecigdje... neki ljudi fakat misle da postoji pravica... /me /quit
[08:11] <lizard_ago> vlado odmaglija ...
[08:30] <lizard_ago> Vlado wb
[08:57] <Vlado9A3CY_> hi lizard_ago ... tnx ;)
[08:58] <lizard_ago> Vlado uobicajena tisina ovdje
[08:58] <Vlado9A3CY> lizard_ago: zna se dogoditi da se ovdje vode i zucne rasprave :) ...
[08:58] <Vlado9A3CY> ali eto slucajno vikend je, ljudi vjerojatno odmaraju :)
[08:59] <Vlado9A3CY> pogotovo oni sto su ovaj tjedan morali raditi ...
[08:59] <lizard_ago> da vrijeme je sijeste
[08:59] <lizard_ago> tako da je to normalno
[08:59] <lizard_ago> recimo i ja sad radim
[08:59] <Vlado9A3CY> za razliku od nas kaj smo se uspjeli izbnoriti za slobodne dane ili dane godisnjeg odmora :)
[08:59] <lizard_ago> sreca samo do 19 tako da eto
[08:59] <Vlado9A3CY> *izboriti ;)
[09:00] <lizard_ago> prokleti ati još nije napravio drajvere za nove X
[09:01] <Vlado9A3CY> sigurno si dozivio vec i gore dane, pa zao... drzi se, mozes ti to :)
[09:01] <lizard_ago> tako da me malo to hebe
[09:01] <Vlado9A3CY> *pa zato
[09:01] <Vlado9A3CY> ma ati je zakon :)
[09:01] <Vlado9A3CY> budu oni to rijesili uskoro ;)
[09:01] <Vlado9A3CY> oni koji se s tim bave :)
[09:01] <lizard_ago> pusti tu priču koliko tiringa ima na atiju bolje da ne pričam
[09:02] <Vlado9A3CY> a mi korisnici cemo samo apdejtati svoje sustave :)
[09:03] <Vlado9A3CY> imam netbook star 4 godine s ati inegriranom grafikom... radi kao zmaj u linuxu :)
[09:03] <lizard_ago> ma pustimo to sada ... treba ic na Ultru :)
[09:03] <lizard_ago> tu je bolja zabava :)
[09:04] <Vlado9A3CY> a da ne spominjem stare kante stare sada vec i 15, mozda i vise godina... ati grafika radi okay :)
[09:04] <Vlado9A3CY> ne znam sto je to ultra :)
[09:05] <lizard_ago> evo ja sam trenutno na laptopu i imam problema s nvidijom 650m i to na windowsima ... dočim pokrenem grafičku odmah mi se sruši drajver
[09:05] <lizard_ago> svašta sam proba ali mislim da je nvidija legla
[09:05] <lizard_ago> Ultra music festival ... u Splitu :)
[09:08] <Vlado9A3CY> :) ...
[09:09] <Vlado9A3CY> daleko mi je Split... skoro 400km :D
[09:12] <Vlado9A3CY> a stio se tice Nvidije, zeni sam instalirao arch based manjaro linux, ima super PC, istina da je star sada vec 4 godine, ali ima 4 core CPU (4*2.66G), 4GB ram i nvidia 250gts 1GB... radi savrseno... otkako sam joj instalirao taj manjaro, jos nije bila u womndowsima... sada vec mejsecima
[09:12] <Vlado9A3CY> :)
[09:13] <Vlado9A3CY> (propuh mi je pa mi vjetar nosi prste po tipkovnici) :D
[09:14] <Vlado9A3CY> a ja ako si ikada opet budem kupovao novi laptop ili slicno, biti ce to Dell s ubuntu-om :)
[09:14] <lizard_ago> hahaha
[09:15] <lizard_ago> ma evo šta got da sam napravio na ovom laptopu samo problemi ... prokleti Acer
[09:15] <Vlado9A3CY> vidio sam Dell laptop s ubuntu 14.04 za manje od 300$
[09:15] <Vlado9A3CY> i to u najboljoj mogucoj opciji
[09:16] <Vlado9A3CY> lizard_ago: koji os koristis?
[09:19] <Vlado9A3CY> na tom aceru?
[09:21] <lizard_ago> ufff ... puko mi je internet
[09:21] <Vlado9A3CY> da lizard_ago ... pitao sam te koji os (koju linux distribuciju) koristis na tom acer-u?
[09:22] <lizard_ago> trenutno su windowsi na njemu
[09:23] <Vlado9A3CY> lol
[09:23] <Vlado9A3CY> jesi probao linux mozda?
[09:23] <Vlado9A3CY> :)
[09:25] <Vlado9A3CY> ako bas zelis odrzati postojece stanje, pokusaj si nabaviti hd za taj laptop i pokusaj instalirati ubuntu, mislim da ces biti vise nego zadovoljan :)
[09:26] <Vlado9A3CY> ili mozes instalirati ubuntu uz postojece windblowse na postojecem hd :)
[09:26] <Vlado9A3CY> ili, za pocetak mozes probati ubuntu live :)
[09:26] <Vlado9A3CY> ili neku drugu linux distribuciju
[09:27] <Vlado9A3CY> xebe ga tzv otvorena mreza, rekao bih :)
[10:42] <dodobas> yutro
[11:22] <Vlado9A3CY> jutro i tebi dodobas
[12:23] <SilverSpace> MotoGp ove godine predobra
[12:42] <SilverSpace> uuuuuuh
[16:46] <reSpawn> d dan
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2015-06-27-#ubuntu-my
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[21:03] * ejat pokes mypapit
[23:36] <mypapit> wtf ejat
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2015-06-27-#ubuntu-discuss
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[03:22] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[03:26] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: Slow ; last entry this channel ; " 14:01 < lotuspsychje> right :p " lol
[03:26] <lotuspsychje> Bashing-om: you guys need to talk when im away also :p
[03:26] <daftykins> that was at 8pm!
[03:26] <daftykins> also i'm heading to bed :>
[03:27] <daftykins> lotuspsychje: shift change!
[03:27] <lotuspsychje> loool
[03:27] <lotuspsychje> well goodnight for you both
[03:27] <lotuspsychje> dont do things i wouldnt do :p
[03:28] <daftykins> i'd normally consider that to include installing Windows, but you said you did - so i can still work :D
[03:29] <lotuspsychje> lol
[03:35] <histo> just spent an hour screwing around with legacy nvidia drivers in arch. I was installing the package for the lts kernel and wasn't even running lts kernel. FML
[03:37] <lotuspsychje> for wich card histo ?
[03:43] <histo> old nvidia 9500 gt
[03:44] <histo> lotuspsychje: I was using their nvidia-340xx-lts package instead of nvidia-340xx
[03:44] <lotuspsychje> kk
[03:44] <histo> lotuspsychje: sitting there stumped as to why the module wouldn't load. Well I wasn't using linux-lts
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: good morning
[05:39] <TJ-> Morning :)
[05:40] <TJ-> Just started a kernel test-build of my loop device enhancements, I think it's about done
[05:41] <lotuspsychje> cool!
[05:42] <TJ-> Took the dogs out at 0430 and 1 of the Huskies decided to run off, then the Collie too. Both came back an hour later just as I was settling down to code :)
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> huskies are beauty
[05:45] <TJ-> Yeah, got 2 of them, one Silver one Pepper, both with blue eyes. Luckily we've got a large farm for them to run on so its not too bad if they run off as long as they don't stray too far
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> yeah those dogs need big space
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> brother of my gf, has adopted a huskie too in their small house...
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> thats so putty
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> put the dog in bench and only 1h a day walking...
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> pitty
[05:47] <TJ-> Yeah... you can't give them too much exercise, although they like being lazy when they're at home whereas the Collie is constantly on the go. He's great though, got him to round the Huskies up when they run off and he does - treats them just like Sheep :)
[05:48] <lotuspsychje> cool
[06:04] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: a guy fixxed his intel ssd on IDE mode this morning, he mentioned your name
[06:10] <TJ-> oh yeah, I remember that. I suggested he try it with a single SSD connected to the SATA controller to see if it still dropped the link to SATA 1
[06:10] <TJ-> Did he say precisely what he'd done/achieved?
[06:10] <TJ-> I think it was hogslammer?
[06:21] <TJ-> He was hit with a bad combination of an Intel X25-E SSD and an ASRock Z77 extreme 4 motherboard that has an Intel SATA 2 chipset on. With the link in AHCI or RAID mode the SATA 2 SSD can't bring up the link and errors until it falls back to SATA 1. Only IDE mode allows the SSD to use the link with SATA 2. Intel engineers acknowledge the problem which is caused by a power mismatch
[06:21] <TJ-> Basically, the SATA specification gives a minimum-maximum range the devices must support. Unfortunately, the motherboard only uses the minimum but the drive requires the maximum
[07:49] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: he fixxed his issue by setting bios to IDE
[07:49] <lotuspsychje> morning EriC^^ and ObrienDave
[07:50] * ObrienDave waves hello
[07:51] <EriC^^> morning lotuspsychje
[07:51] <lotuspsychje> hi mate :p
[07:52] <ObrienDave> well darn, sleepy time. *waves*
[07:59] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: yeah, I'd recommended that originally and he did but then got into a complaining session about having spent all that money on the hardware and unable to use AHCI , which was when I recommended he test it with only 1 SSD connected in case that helped the power-starvation issue
[08:00] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: but will IDE mode perform good read/write speeds?
[08:00] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: some systems dont even boot an ssd on IDE
[08:01] <TJ-> It gives him SATA 2 instead of SATA 1
[08:02] <lotuspsychje> weird
[08:03] <TJ-> He was hit with a bad combination of an Intel X25-E SSD and an ASRock Z77 extreme 4 motherboard that has an Intel SATA 2 chipset on. With the link in AHCI or RAID mode the SATA 2 SSD can't bring up the link and errors until it falls back to SATA 1. Only IDE mode allows the SSD to use the link with SATA 2. Intel engineers acknowledge the problem which is caused by a power mismatch
[08:03] <TJ-> Basically, the SATA specification gives a minimum-maximum range the devices must support. Unfortunately, the motherboard only uses the minimum but the drive requires the maximum
[08:03] <lotuspsychje> i see
[09:13] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust: hello :p
[09:13] <lotuspsychje> set to favs mate
[09:13] <MonkeyDust> hi lotuspsychje
[09:13] <lotuspsychje> we missed you :p
[09:13] <MonkeyDust> my ubuntu works, without problems, now i'm lost
[09:13] <lotuspsychje> lool
[09:13] <MonkeyDust> nothing to troubleshoot
[09:14] <lotuspsychje> :p
[09:15] <lotuspsychje> installed trusty to over 50 boxes by now
[09:15] <lotuspsychje> all run pretty fine
[09:15] <MonkeyDust> sounds good, i only have my own old laptop (2009 or so)
[09:16] <lotuspsychje> 'old' is very relative with ubuntu
[09:16] <MonkeyDust> true
[09:16] <lotuspsychje> my 'old' desktop amd 3200+ with 1 gig ram and 8gig transcend ssd goes rocketfast on trusty 64bit
[09:17] <lotuspsychje> its faster boot then my netbook with the samsung pro 850
[09:19] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: the angry volunteer joined, its gonna go bad now :p
[09:32] <MonkeyDust> vacuum cleaner <-- unrivalled when it comes to hardware maintenance
[09:35] <lotuspsychje> lol
[09:35] <lotuspsychje> off into the sun guys
[09:36] <lotuspsychje> cheers
[09:39] <TJ-> MonkeyDust: I prefer an air compressor :)
[11:38] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:58] <MonkeyDust> what happened to the floodbot(s), why don't they kick trolls in #ubuntu ?
[12:59] <OerHeks> *weekend-trolls
[15:02] <TJ-> Yow! Just had XH-558 fly right over the top of the farmhouse at low level... made me jump out of my seat!
[15:04] <OerHeks> Avro Vulcan XH558 ??
[15:09] <TJ-> Yeah!
[15:10] <TJ-> It was on its way to a turning point nr Grantham before heading to Newark Air Museum
[15:11] <OerHeks> i couldn't find it on flightradar, flying too low?
[15:12] <TJ-> I dunno... about 500 feet I'd say.... http://www.vulcantothesky.org/salute-to-the-v-force-tour.html
[15:17] <TJ-> It returns to Doncaster Robin-Hood but doesn't show on their arrivals either... obviously in Stealth mode :)
[15:18] <daftykins> =]
[15:59] <DJones> MonkeyDust: Floodbots all went away ages ago, drone has taken over but is still learning
[18:25] <lotuspsychje> good evening to all
[18:26] <OerHeks> hi lotus
[18:27] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: hello mate
[18:34] <BluesKaj> hey lotuspsychje, OerHeks
[18:35] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: hello mate, how are you?
[18:35] <BluesKaj> fine thanks, lotuspsychje, and you ?
[18:35] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: are you testing wily?
[18:35] <BluesKaj> yes
[18:35] <BluesKaj> kubuntu
[18:36] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: cool, all work fine on alpha?
[18:37] <lotuspsychje> !info libreoffice wily
[18:37] <lotuspsychje> nice
[18:38] <lotuspsychje> alot of nice fixes in libreoffice 4.4, does it feel renewed BluesKaj ?
[18:40] <BluesKaj> alpha seems ok so far , nothing serious to report , ...sorry i don't use libreoffice much, so i haven't had any reason to check
[18:40] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: can you just open writer for me, startup speed, look n feel light?
[18:40] <lotuspsychje> it should have changed alot
[18:41] <lotuspsychje> maybe much changes under the hood, but still should be another feeling
[18:42] <BluesKaj> lotuspsychje, opens quickly , no crashes
[18:43] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: cool tnx for feedback
[18:47] <BluesKaj> sems solid
[18:47] <BluesKaj> seems that is
[18:48] <lotuspsychje_> hexchat lags on me more then xchat
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2015-06-27-#ubuntu
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[00:05] <MonkeyDust> zeeshan-laptop try with ln or ln -s
[00:11] <daveinfla> Good evening all
[00:12] <daveinfla> I'm migrating from a Windows based media server to one running on ubuntu. I want to force all transmission traffic over openvpn, when the vpn drops I want transmission to stop. It would be a bonus to be alerted when the vpn drops too. Can anyone direct me to a straight forward step by step reference?
[00:17] <daveinfla> anyone home?
[00:38] <Bashing-om> hypernova: How are you coming along ?
[00:40] <hypernova> me?
[00:40] <hypernova> horribly
[00:40] <hypernova> i need my own flashdrive...
[00:42] <Bashing-om> hypernova: :( . Flash drives are plentiful and cheap, here in the States. Grab a new one fairly quick here .
[00:43] <HackerII> even for a quickie, you could use an sd card in a pinch
[00:46] <zorlac> hello all
[00:48] <rakesh> hi
[00:49] <Guest18301> rakesh
[00:51] <hypernova> i have one
[00:51] <hypernova> it has important stuff
[00:51] <hypernova> and theres no room on my second computer to back it up...
[00:52] <hypernova> so stupid
[00:52] <hypernova> my mom won't share her sd card...
[00:52] <hypernova> is there any way to mount a iso on a flash drive with out wiping the data
[00:53] <hypernova> mabye i can compress the files on my flashdrive
[00:53] <hypernova> and copy them to the desktop
[00:53] <hypernova> then wipe it
[00:53] <hypernova> then put them back there when im done...
[00:54] <Bashing-om> hypernova: IF you can boot to grub presently, there ia another path to get us something we can boot .
[00:54] <hypernova> yes i have grub
[00:54] <hypernova> and network
[00:55] <hypernova> gnu grub version 2.02
[00:55] <Bashing-om> hypernova: Have a read and consider : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot .
[00:56] <HarrySacks> Does Canonical spy on what you do on your computer when you use ubuntu?
[00:56] <HackerII> get a life
[00:57] <HarrySacks> HackerII, and you need to repent or you will go to eternal torment
[00:57] <HackerII> youll pass me on the way
[00:57] <HarrySacks> Because I called and you refused,
[00:57] <HarrySacks> I stretched out my hand and no one paid attention;
[00:57] <HarrySacks> 25
[00:57] <HarrySacks> And you neglected all my counsel
[00:57] <HarrySacks> And did not want my reproof;
[00:57] <HarrySacks> 26
[00:58] <hypernova> Bashing-om, im not sure how that would work walk me through?
[00:58] <hypernova> i just need to compress 12 gb of files into less then 6
[00:58] <hypernova> and then i have enough room on my computer to back up my flash drive contents
[00:59] <hypernova> then i can just wipe my flash drive and use it...
[01:01] <Bashing-om> hypernova: Nevermind, I can not come up with a means (non ubuntu) to copy the .iso to the install . We would have to have the .iso file present in the install .
[01:01] <hypernova> yes
[01:01] <hypernova> i have a idea
[01:02] <hypernova> i need to figure out how to compress the data on my flashdrive to store it
[01:02] <hypernova> on my comp
[01:02] <hypernova> my other comp is amlost out of room
[01:02] <hypernova> from backing up stuff
[01:02] <hypernova> i will compress the data on my flash drive
[01:02] <hypernova> then mount the iso
[01:02] <hypernova> then boot ubuntu
[01:02] <hypernova> then put my important files back on the flash drive and un compress them
[01:02] <hypernova> problem sloved
[01:02] <hypernova> solved
[01:07] <Bashing-om> hypernova: Humm .. If it is your thought to boot the .iso from the thumb drive, do not think grub has the ability to see an external device . BUT, we can try .
[01:08] <hypernova> no no
[01:08] <hypernova> im just going to instal ubunto on a second hardrive
[01:08] <hypernova> and then pull data from my shot one
[01:08] <hypernova> if i can
[01:08] <hypernova> becuase it might just be freid
[01:08] <rockstar_> I am trying to installing Ubuntu in Aus EEE PC, which currently has Windows 7. Booting laptop goes directly to Windows 7, any suggestion?
[01:08] <hypernova> its from when i was 10
[01:08] <hypernova> yes
[01:08] <hypernova> change your boot order
[01:08] <hypernova> in the bios
[01:09] <hypernova> to boot ubunto first ;P
[01:09] <hypernova> right bashing om?
[01:09] <michael_p> hehhe made another panel a filed it with ircns
[01:09] <michael_p> filled
[01:10] <rockstar_> hypernova: haven't installed Ubuntu yet, but bootable usb stick is ready. I couldn't seem to get the boot option, when I tab Esc when restarting the laptop
[01:11] <michael_p> running xbuntu
[01:11] <Bashing-om> hypernova: Anyway you can come up with to boot up a 'buntu is good .
[01:12] <hypernova> ohh ok rockstar_
[01:12] <hypernova> just hit f12 or f2
[01:12] <hypernova> when you power on your bios
[01:12] <hypernova> it will say a button to change boot order or enter bios settings
[01:12] <hypernova> plug your usb in
[01:12] <hypernova> when computers turned off and boot it up
[01:13] <hypernova> then enter bios
[01:13] <hypernova> change bot order to boot from flashdrive before harddrives
[01:13] <hypernova> then you can set it up
[01:13] <rockstar_> hypernova: yup, I looked up its bios (F9) and boot menu(Esc) shortcuts. But Esc is directly taking me to windows startup.
[01:13] <hypernova> it should not
[01:14] <hypernova> try your bios
[01:14] <hypernova> you have to get to the bios menu
[01:14] <hypernova> to change your boot oder
[01:14] <hypernova> whats your laptop model?
[01:14] <rockstar_> hypernova: Asus EEE PC
[01:15] <rockstar_> hypernova: I was following this forum thread, where elliott678 gives shortcut info - http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/asus-eee-pc-netbook-booting-from-a-usb-stick-870921/
[01:15] <hypernova> https://craftedflash.com/howto-video/how-boot-asus-eee-pc-netbook-usb-flash-drive
[01:15] <hypernova> can i google this for you?
[01:17] <rockstar_> hypernova: thanks, I will give this a try :)
[01:17] <manuel4> AES-cryptography struck installing procedure alleging "logical driver already in USE", should I cryptograph by livecd-installer in AES, after already using my new distro?
[01:17] <hypernova> yes good luck
[01:18] <hypernova> seems my mouse is dying also...
[01:18] <hypernova> my cord seems to giving out
[01:18] <hypernova> im not having a good week..
[01:20] <azizLIGHT> how much ram should i need for livecd testing in a vm?
[01:20] <rockstar_> hypernova: time to get treat yourself with new ones ;)
[01:20] <hypernova> im poor.
[01:20] <hypernova> 17 yrears old
[01:21] <hypernova> i have legit built my computer from salvaged broken comps
[01:21] <hypernova> and 20 yr old parts
[01:21] <hypernova> i just upgraded my computer from a cardboard box today
[01:21] <hypernova> to a wooden box
[01:21] <hypernova> my mouse is from 2010 about
[01:21] <hypernova> someone gave it to me for helping then
[01:22] <hypernova> my keyboard is anchenet
[01:22] <stevendale> hypernova: Please move on to #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:22] <hypernova> sorry ;P
[01:22] <hypernova> anyways
[01:22] <hypernova> rockstar anyways i will get a new mouse someday
[01:23] <rockstar_> hypernova: thanks, you are young and wise haha. And if things goes fine you will be rich too.
[01:24] <hypernova> yes mabye did you get your computer to boot?
[01:24] <rockstar_> hypernova: by the way, that solution was perfect. Never realized there was boot priority inside hard disk drives in Boot menu.
[01:24] <hypernova> yes there is
[01:25] <hypernova> im glad it worked for you ;P
[01:25] <rockstar_> hypernova: this laptop was my sister's. So I was completely unfamiliar with its BIOS haha
[01:25] <hypernova> yes ok.
[01:25] <hypernova> seems google is quite fimlar with it
[01:28] <edisto> i'm looking to install a gedit plugin for glsl but I when I cd /usr/lib/gedit/plugins or ~/.local/share/gedit/plugins it doesnt exist to add the plugin
[01:29] <edisto> where exactly is the gedit folder located?
[01:31] <hypernova> in .local?
[01:31] <hypernova> edisto,
[01:32] <hypernova> it might not exsit at all you might have to create it
[01:33] <OerHeks> edisto, see answer http://askubuntu.com/questions/146999/finding-the-gedit-plugin-folder if that folder pugins does not exist, make it
[01:35] <hypernova> yes make it ;P
[01:36] <edisto> ahh thanks much =D
[01:41] <michael_p> one way you can install is apt-get install (name)
[01:47] <vibewill> Anyone know a version of Wine that runs josgos online that use DirectX with greater perfection
[01:48] <cfhowlett> !wine | vibewill
[01:48] <sedd> hell world i new here
[01:52] <vibewill> Correct want to run a game
[01:52] <vibewill> perfect world
[01:52] <vibewill> no more running this wine
[01:53] <vibewill> I wanted a wine version for the wheel
[01:53] <cfhowlett> vibewill, as DirectX is a WINDOWS program, you need either or wine or *possibly* a VM solution.
[01:59] <vibewill> cfhowlett I tendando runs on most wine without success headache
[02:00] <cfhowlett> vibewill, see the wine resources for support and don't forget: wine is an EMUALATOR. running programs on an emulator rarely gives full performance.
[02:03] <netameta_> anyone familiar with quassel, if so how can i export/import user profile(all of channels and configs)
[02:04] <hypernova> probbly just copy the data where its stored...
[02:04] <hypernova> ive never used it but its most likly just a buch of files you could copy
[02:06] <cpc> hello
[02:06] <netameta_> cant find those files
[02:12] <azizLIGHT> im testing ubuntu 15.04 via vmware workstation 11 on ubuntu 14.04 x64 and in the livecd i cant get it to change the tiny resolution at all from the display settings
[02:13] <azizLIGHT> im stuck in 800x600
[02:15] <SCHAAP137> install the vmware tools, azizLIGHT
[02:15] <azizLIGHT> im trying
[02:15] <SCHAAP137> you could ask in #vmware for support installing the tools
[02:16] <SCHAAP137> i think it's just sudo ./vmware-tools-install.pl, from the disk, azizLIGHT
[02:16] <SCHAAP137> or something similar
[02:17] <azizLIGHT> yep i found it, it was in their tar
[02:18] <SCHAAP137> i think you need to have the kernel headers installed, to build some of those vmware modules
[02:18] <SCHAAP137> azizLIGHT, if the tools install fails, use this command to install the necessary files: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[02:19] <azizLIGHT> now i got a question
[02:20] <azizLIGHT> i did the vmware tools install, but it wants me to logout login. i was going to press ctrl-alt-backspace... but it got me thinking: will this be sent to the guest os, or will the host takeover this key shortcut and kill X in the host
[02:20] <SCHAAP137> no idea
[02:20] <SCHAAP137> that's a vmware question
[02:20] <azizLIGHT> hmm because ive done it before and host took it over
[02:20] <azizLIGHT> that was unpleasant
[02:21] <SCHAAP137> vmware uses ctrl alt as the default host keys i think... virtualbox uses right ctrl
[02:21] <SCHAAP137> so it makes sense that before you even press backspace, the host takes over
[02:21] <azizLIGHT> ohhh you are correct
[02:22] <azizLIGHT> it worked :)
[02:23] <SCHAAP137> nice
[02:23] <azizLIGHT> i got 1900x1200 but no 1900x1080 :/
[02:23] <azizLIGHT> as options in the display
[02:24] <azizLIGHT> SCHAAP137: i misspoke. i dont mean to say ctrl-alt-backspace worked
[02:24] <azizLIGHT> SCHAAP137: i just ran /usr/bin/vmware-user manually. they give you 3 ways to start. run that program manually, logout/login, or restart X
[02:25] <SCHAAP137> i'd just restart the vm
[02:26] <azizLIGHT> well its a livecd
[02:26] <azizLIGHT> restarting it wouldnt help
[02:26] <SCHAAP137> hmm, installing the tools on a livecd is a bit useless in that sense :P
[02:26] <azizLIGHT> hehe yea
[02:29] <hypernova> well
[02:29] <hypernova> my comps still broken
[02:35] <musclez> me too hyper
[02:35] <Bashing-om> hypernova: I got nother thought . Maybe we can boot this sucker from grub, if we tell grub abd the kernel where their files are (??) We can try .
[02:35] <hypernova> idk
[02:35] <hypernova> mabye
[02:35] <hypernova> trying to compress all the files on my moms comp
[02:35] <hypernova> to free up 12 gb of space...
[02:36] <hypernova> need room to put ubunto on the flashdrive
[02:36] <hypernova> im compresssing right now
[02:36] <hypernova> mabye it will work
[02:37] <Bashing-om> hypernova: K .
[02:37] <hypernova> is there anyway to mount a iso to a flashdrive
[02:37] <hypernova> without losing whats already on it?
[02:37] <hypernova> can i create a second partion to boot off of or something??
[02:38] <Bashing-om> hypernova: Never done it, can not say .
[02:38] <hypernova> me neither...
[02:41] <supercom32> For ubuntu 15.04, I noted that when I do a large network file transfer (ie. via sftp), my machine will lock up every 5 seconds or so for about a second, then resume again. Does anyone know what's going on?
[02:47] <sibaar> hello All!
[02:47] <sibaar> I have my /home partition backed up. How can I back up my root partition (which has all of the programs and packages installed)?
[02:49] <hypernova> uhh
[02:49] <hypernova> your home partition has your programs...
[02:50] <hypernova> ask Bashing-om or SCHAAP137 how to propreply back up
[02:50] <legend> hi
[02:50] <hypernova> backing up the whole root drictory is nto the bst approch
[02:52] <legend> I have a file on hard disk about 6.2 GB size. I think the location on hard disk where it is stored has some bad sectors. So i can't copy that file using default file manager. Any way so i can copy that in terminal ignoring errors?
[02:52] <otirc> Hi guys, is it normal to have a guest-... in /etc/passwd
[02:53] <michael_p> hi
[02:56] <Bashing-om> hypernova: Just backing up your /home is the big piece . Only you know what default configs you have changed . All system files are on the (re-)install .
[02:57] <Bashing-om> !testdisk | legend
[02:58] <Bashing-om> legend: See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery .
[03:03] <circ-user-BZ2FA> Quick question. Just picked up a ChromeBook and am overall pleased. However I picked it up with the intentions of installing Linux while keeping ChromeOS. Has anyone here tried this? If so what do you think? Worth installing Linux?
[03:04] <circ-user-BZ2FA> My main reason for wanting to install Linux is for development purposes. I'm not sold on web-based IDE's and such.
[03:05] <mahoonam> actually i just purchased a toshiba tecra and i am ready to install linux too...which version?
[03:07] <ubskeur> hello
[03:08] <yean> Buenas
[03:08] <ubskeur> I reported a bug in timidity yesterday, and have now noticed a similar issue in audacity when playing mp3 files
[03:08] <yean> Alguien que hable español?
[03:08] <ubskeur> ie no playback, garbled noise
[03:08] <ubskeur> yean, I don't know spanish?
[03:10] <hogslammer> hi
[03:10] <ubskeur> since the issue effects both timidity and audacity I'm not sure either are to blame
[03:11] <hogslammer> aww man tj left
[03:11] <hogslammer> im trying to figure out why my ubuntu fresh install is not booting unless i use recovery mode
[03:12] <netameta_> anyone knows how can i export user profile for quassel ? or how do i search a folder in ubunut ?
[03:15] <mahoonam> could i tether ??
[03:15] <ubskeur> netameta_, there is a search button in top right of file browser
[03:15] <ryanprior> I have six apport-check-resume failure "Report system error..." messages that come up every time I boot my computer. I don't care. How can I get rid of them?
[03:21] <ryanprior> I've used Ubuntu for about 9 years now and I always start out with no "Report system error" messages when I install, but they keep piling up and there's more and more until I eventually reinstall the system when I do an upgrade. I've never learned how to just get rid of these errors. Does anybody else have the same experience? Does anybody know how to stop the windows from popping up?
[03:22] <ryanprior> I don't actually care about getting rid of the error. It's reported in Launchpad and I trust it'll be fixed in a future patch. I just want to get rid of the popup.
[03:22] <ubskeur> ryanprior, out of curiosity which error?
[03:23] <ryanprior> ubskeur: apport-check-resume failed
[03:24] <ubskeur> ALSA lib pcm.c:7843:(snd_pcm_recover) underrun occurred
[03:25] <ubskeur> :(
[03:25] <UNNGH> hi
[03:25] <UNNGH> pc atw
[03:26] <lotuspsychje> UNNGH: can we help you?
[03:26] <UNNGH> jk
[03:27] <legend> Thank you
[03:27] <ryanprior> tar xcf
[03:29] <hogslammer> do i have to reinstall if i switched bios from ahci mode to ide mode?
[03:29] <lotuspsychje> hogslammer: yes, for an ssd
[03:29] <hogslammer> ok im in now but only recovery mode works to get in
[03:29] <ubskeur> I am slightly annoyed at this bug that has been in the bug tracker for 2 years suddenly affecting me in 15.04
[03:29] <lotuspsychje> hogslammer: what kind of drive did you change?
[03:29] <hogslammer> ssd
[03:30] <lotuspsychje> hogslammer: then you need set to AHCI right
[03:30] <lotuspsychje> not IDE
[03:30] <hogslammer> ubuntu dont like raid, ahci but ok better with ide, just still need to recovery, then resume. no changes..
[03:30] <hogslammer> no it hates ahci
[03:30] <hogslammer> and hates raid 0
[03:30] <hogslammer> im forced to use ide
[03:30] <lotuspsychje> hogslammer: if you plugged in ssd, you need ahci, not ide
[03:31] <hogslammer> but still suffering from boot issues
[03:31] <legend> The file i recovered from Hard disk having bad sectors is a rar file. Some files in it seem to be missing. Can i recover rar file contents in ubuntu?
[03:31] <hogslammer> lotus, ive already been there done that with ahci fresh install, its not working right
[03:31] <lotuspsychje> !info testdisk | legend sudo photorec after
[03:31] <lotuspsychje> hogslammer: wich ubuntu version?
[03:31] <hogslammer> i was told that my ssd is wonky on powerup so it needs ide mode.
[03:32] <hogslammer> latest greatest 15.04
[03:32] <legend> ty
[03:32] <lotuspsychje> hogslammer: try 14.04.2 for stable + ahci
[03:32] <hogslammer> its intel x25-e is why
[03:32] <hogslammer> nope
[03:32] <hogslammer> ahci is broken for my ssd specifically
[03:32] <hogslammer> nobody has x25-e drives because they are 500 bucks a pop
[03:33] <hogslammer> thus nobody wants to make it work with linux.
[03:33] <lotuspsychje> hogslammer: howso broken?
[03:33] <hogslammer> if you know TJ that comes in here will give you some insight to why it dont work.
[03:35] <netameta_> Anyone familir with quassel ? is there a way to export/import user profile ?
[03:35] <hogslammer> its got to do with the power output in the intel firmware, and my motherboard intel chipset that is causing a nonresponding error -16
[03:36] <hogslammer> COMRESET
[03:36] <edisto> i dragged a .lang file to my lanugage-specs folder but it is not showing up on my gedit highlight mode.... what am I missing?
[03:36] <hogslammer> im going to reinstall in ide mode now
[03:36] <lotuspsychje> hogslammer: ok gl
[03:36] <hogslammer> ty for assistance lotus
[03:37] <lotuspsychje> hogslammer:
[03:37] <lotuspsychje> hogslammer: did you try bios upgrade?
[03:37] <hogslammer> already latest
[03:38] <hogslammer> looking for a reinstall app for ubuntu, possibly i can reinstall inplace
[03:38] <u111a> /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER u111a qvugpkvaltjy
[03:38] <hogslammer> other than that i just got a live cd which sucks, and a netinstall cd.
[03:38] <hogslammer> im afraid the reinstall might bork my windows install on the other identical 32gig ssd.
[03:38] <hogslammer> its hard to tell both apart
[03:38] <lotuspsychje> u111a: better change your password now
[03:38] <edisto> lol
[03:39] <hogslammer> if this dont fix linux ill have to just deal with having to go into recovery mode, then hit resume and should bypass the issues with ssd drives.
[03:41] <lotuspsychje> hogslammer: did you check firmware upgrades for ssd?
[03:41] <hogslammer> yup all updated firmware for both ssd
[03:42] <lotuspsychje> hogslammer: ask in ##hardware for a workaround perhaps
[03:47] <IrfanAlam> How to solve Server Error: UID MOVE: Mailbox doesn't exist: Trash
[03:52] <IrfanAlam> anyone here ?
[03:53] <lotuspsychje> !patience | IrfanAlam
[03:53] <Phveektor> Yes
[03:53] <lotuspsychje> IrfanAlam: maybe start from the beginning: what are you trying to do?
[03:54] <IrfanAlam> How to solve..... Server Error: UID MOVE: Mailbox doesn't exist: Trash
[03:54] <edisto> anyone know anything about gedit and .lang files?
[03:54] <lotuspsychje> IrfanAlam: we cant smell, with wich package your playing, wich ubuntu version you have
[03:54] <lotuspsychje> !details | IrfanAlam
[03:55] <edisto> no eh?
[03:55] <lotuspsychje> edisto: whats your real question?
[03:55] <IrfanAlam> lotuspsychje : ubottu : While deleting email I am getting this error. I am using Ubuntu 14.04 and roundcube....
[03:56] <lotuspsychje> IrfanAlam: have you tryed the #roundcube channel?
[03:56] <IrfanAlam> no
[03:56] <edisto> i put glsl.lang into the langspec folder but it is not showing on my highlight list in gedit
[03:56] <edisto> what is the deal?
[03:58] <lotuspsychje> edisto: maybe this can help? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1150569
[03:59] <lotuspsychje> edisto: or here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/gedit
[03:59] <Finetundra> hey folks, is there a way to set a button to black out the screen?
[04:01] <lotuspsychje> Finetundra: whats your purpose exactly?
[04:01] <IrfanAlam> lotuspsychje : ???
[04:02] <IrfanAlam> Ubottu : ??
[04:02] <lotuspsychje> !patience | IrfanAlam
[04:02] <lotuspsychje> IrfanAlam: ask again on another time, better luck perhaps
[04:02] <Finetundra> lotuspsychje: to toggle on/off the screen it's a laptop monitor
[04:03] <lotuspsychje> Finetundra: normally you can use the Fn keys + screen
[04:03] <edisto> lotuspsychje: ahhh thanks I am getting a parsing error
[04:03] <lotuspsychje> Finetundra: but maybe there's an ubuntu indicator for shutting off screen?
[04:04] <Finetundra> there's no key for that. it was(for the original windows install) set to a off keyboard button
[04:05] <lotuspsychje> Finetundra: http://askubuntu.com/questions/398059/anyway-to-make-hotkey-to-turn-screen-off
[04:06] <Phveektor> I think it's an hardware thing
[04:06] <Phveektor> Some keyboards do come with function key for such
[04:07] <Finetundra> lotuspsychje: isn't that just for turning it off?
[04:09] <lotuspsychje> Finetundra: thats what you asked, toggle off
[04:09] <Finetundra> toggle on/off, not just off
[04:11] <lotuspsychje> Finetundra: then make hotkey for force : ON also
[04:17] <datapack> Hello all!
[04:18] <azizLIGHT> how much space do i need for a dkestop install of 15.04
[04:19] <lotuspsychje> azizLIGHT: +10 gig would be nice
[04:20] <azizLIGHT> ok thanks
[04:21] <Gurathnaka> Hello everyone. I'm on 14.04 lts. I'm wondering if i installed 15.04, does it support wifi out of the box? By that i mean, i tried installing 15.04 Ubuntu Mate, however i could not connect to the internet, so i did not install it. I am wondering if it's the same with the newest vanilla ubuntu?
[04:21] <lotuspsychje> Gurathnaka: what wifi card chipset?
[04:21] <Gurathnaka> intel, im not sure the exact model
[04:22] <Gurathnaka> but mint and vanilla 14.04 worked fine
[04:22] <lotuspsychje> Gurathnaka: well if you want stable stick to 14.04, if you wanna try non-lts perhaps plugin eth cable to update wifi drivers
[04:23] <michael_p> #blender
[04:23] <lotuspsychje> Gurathnaka: did you try 15.04 desktop?
[04:24] <Gurathnaka> lotuspsychje, i have only tried Ubuntu Mate 15.04. I was going to install it as my primary OS. Im new and distro hopping quite a bit, so i didn't continue because i did not want to be stuck there without internet
[04:25] <Phveektor> 15.04 works fine for a. Clean install. And seems more stable than 14.10 but if u want one with lts 14.04 is gd
[04:25] <lotuspsychje> Gurathnaka: you can always ask in #ubuntu-mate, but keep in mind that LTS is more stable
[04:25] <lotuspsychje> Gurathnaka: you can try a 15.04 liveusb with eth cable plugged in, to see if it recognizes your wifi
[04:25] <Gurathnaka> Well, i was wondering if it's a bug with all the derivative distros
[04:26] <Gurathnaka> i don't have an ethernet cable unfortunately
[04:26] <ubskeur> I'm having issues with some audio programs only making garbled noise, could switching from ALSA help?
[04:26] <lotuspsychje> Gurathnaka: normally intel cards are supported pretty well
[04:26] <lotuspsychje> !sound | ubskeur
[04:28] <Gurathnaka> lotuspsychje, is the software in 15.04 more updated? One of the problems i'm experiencing is a lot of the software seems to be out of date in 14.04
[04:28] <lotuspsychje> Gurathnaka: installing ubuntu is always reccomended to enable internet + updates + 3rd party software during install
[04:28] <Phveektor> Mostly ubuntu disables playing media after a. Clean install, but u can always enable it by installing ubuntu restricted extras from synaptic or using terminal
[04:28] <lotuspsychje> Gurathnaka: every ubuntu version has its own package versions, that doenst mean their danger to use
[04:28] <Gurathnaka> Oh, i did enable it in Mate
[04:30] <lotuspsychje> Gurathnaka: i would reccomend you 15.04 desktop liveusb, just to check if wifi gets recognized
[04:30] <lotuspsychje> Gurathnaka: if it does, you will know its a mate thing
[04:30] <Gurathnaka> lotuspsychje, thanks, I'll try that out.
[04:31] <ubskeur> lotuspsychje, a lot of this troubleshooting is for sound that isn't playing at all, rather than some applications making garbled noise
[04:32] <Gurathnaka> lotuspsychje, i did notice a few bug reports yesterday about 15.04 and intel cards when i was trying to find a fix, but i don't remember if it was mate related or not. Oh well, can't hurt to try
[04:32] <michael_p> whats your verdict on xubuntu
[04:32] <lotuspsychje> michael_p: what about it?
[04:33] <michael_p> i like it better then linux minit
[04:33] <lotuspsychje> ubskeur: did you try a pulseaudio restart?
[04:33] <ubskeur> lotuspsychje, will look into that
[04:33] <lotuspsychje> michael_p: this channel is only for ubuntu support, not polls
[04:34] <Phveektor> Lotuspsychje: lol
[04:34] <michael_p> i know
[04:34] <Gurathnaka> Also, sorry if this is a dumb question, but I don't really understand the whole lts and 15.04 thing. I'm new, so it's pretty confusing. If 15.04 is the newest version then why don't they just long term support that?
[04:34] <lotuspsychje> lts | Gurathnaka
[04:34] <lotuspsychje> !lts | Gurathnaka
[04:34] <Phveektor> There is no crime asking before tryin something out
[04:35] <lotuspsychje> Phveektor: likes/dislikes is something else then asking if the system could handle xubuntu
[04:36] <ubskeur> lotuspsychje, E: [pulseaudio] main.c: Daemon startup failed.
[04:36] <Gurathnaka> Is ubottu a bot?
[04:36] <lotuspsychje> Gurathnaka: yes
[04:36] <Gurathnaka> Oh, you guys must get that question a lot then, sorry lol
[04:36] <michael_p> i am not worried about polls
[04:36] <geekosopher> adobe-flashplugin fails to update on kubuntu 14.04
[04:36] <lotuspsychje> Gurathnaka: dont worry, non-lts is supported 9months, then you can upgrade to another version
[04:37] <Gurathnaka> lotuspsychje, do you use 15.04?
[04:37] <lotuspsychje> Gurathnaka: no im on 14.04.2 rocksolid :p
[04:38] <lotuspsychje> geekosopher: did you install ubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[04:38] <HarrySacks> Does ubuntu spy on what you do on your computer?
[04:38] <Abhijit> hi
[04:38] <lotuspsychje> geekosopher: kubuntu-restricted-extras in your case
[04:38] <lotuspsychje> HarrySacks: no, why do you suspect?
[04:39] <ubskeur> HarrySacks, ubuntu is what you do on your computer
[04:39] <ubskeur> HarrySacks, if you suspect being spied on, try using a packet sniffer
[04:39] <Gurathnaka> lotuspsychje, ah ok. Do you mind if i ask how i could get software thats updated on other distos but not up to date on the software center?
[04:39] <Abhijit> i have a working Centos installed on UEFI motherboard with encrypted lvm. when i try to install ubuntu 15 it detects the lvm. is it safe to just mount my ubuntu partitions to that lvm? will that work? also my centos has uefi boot . but ubuntu only shows /boot in the list not the uefi. shall i just ignore it?
[04:39] <geekosopher> lotuspsychje: nope
[04:40] <lotuspsychje> geekosopher: try installing that
[04:40] <Abhijit> HarrySacks, some dash plugins might be. just disable them
[04:40] <geekosopher> lotuspsychje: giving it a spin
[04:40] <Abhijit> HarrySacks, you can always monitor network traffic and keep record of it using cron when you are not looking.
[04:40] <lotuspsychje> Gurathnaka: thats a bad idea, always use the package versions meant for the ubuntu version
[04:41] <ubskeur> lotuspsychje, restarting pulseaudio has no effect. Since I noticed the issue I've restarted ubuntu twice with no effect
[04:41] <lotuspsychje> ubskeur: wich ubuntu version is this?
[04:42] <Guest10869> WIRESHARK
[04:42] <ubskeur> lotuspsychje, 15.04, no issue before upgrading from 14.10, not working at all since upgrade
[04:42] <lotuspsychje> ubskeur: upgrades can get tricky, try a clean install instead
[04:43] <Gurathnaka> lotuspsychje, I mean,i understand it could be a little unstable but in the software center, the media player i would like to use is out of dathe by a year, everywhere else it seems to be updated regularly
[04:43] <lotuspsychje> Gurathnaka: even if you use 15.04 you wont always have latest packages of the main website
[04:44] <lotuspsychje> Gurathnaka: its reccomended to use versions, meant for the ubuntu version
[04:45] <lotuspsychje> Gurathnaka: if you install a newer version manually, you can risk trouble
[04:45] <ubskeur> lotuspsychje, clean install is a last resort, anything else you could recommend trying?
[04:45] <lotuspsychje> ubskeur: check your syslog and dmesg for sound related issues
[04:45] <Gurathnaka> lotuspsychje, Oh, ok, i see. Well, thank you for clearing that up for me
[04:45] <lotuspsychje> ubskeur: maybe tail -f /var/log/syslog in realtime and play with audio a bit
[04:46] <lotuspsychje> Gurathnaka: using 'older' version on LTS example, doesnt mean your unsecure
[04:46] <RNSpharaoh> hi guys, i am trying to uninstall django, it said to delete it from the python site-packages folder but i cannot find it in there, is there an auto uninstall fro django, i have djano1.4 and i want to install 1.8
[04:47] <lotuspsychje> !info django
[04:47] <lotuspsychje> RNSpharaoh: did you try the #django channel?
[04:48] <Gurathnaka> lotuspsychje, Oh i know, but when something isn't updated in a long time, it lacks many features which is a shame. But better stable than sorry :p
[04:48] <ubskeur> lotuspsychje, these seem relevant: http://pastebin.com/wm4hPhjv
[04:48] <RNSpharaoh> i thought i was loged in to it :), let me try to find that
[04:48] <xangua> !latest | Gurathnaka if you are looking for a distro that has latest packages always, maybe Ubuntu is not the distro for you
[04:49] <lotuspsychje> ubskeur: yeah that alsa bug line, try reporting a bug for 15.04 or..clean install 15.04 or 14.04
[04:49] <lotuspsychje> ubskeur: your choice :p
[04:49] <ubskeur> lotuspsychje, 14.04.2 doesn't support my graphics card
[04:50] <lotuspsychje> ubskeur: i doubt that, wich card?
[04:50] <ubskeur> lotuspsychje, asus radeon r9 290
[04:50] <ubskeur> lotuspsychje, I was in here and we concluded 14.10 had fixed a known bug in 14.04.2
[04:50] <lotuspsychje> ubskeur: trusty drivers should be the same in 14.04.2
[04:51] <Gurathnaka> xangua, i love ubuntu though, haha. But yes, i do see your point. Like i said, i guess it's better stable, than sorry
[04:51] <lotuspsychje> ubskeur: anyway, you could try a 15.04 liveusb, and test sound there?
[04:51] <geekosopher> same problem installing from kubuntu-restricted-extras
[04:52] <lotuspsychje> geekosopher: what error do you get?
[04:52] <ubskeur> lotuspsychje, good idea, live cd, thanks
[04:52] <geekosopher> the problem is with flashplugin-installer
[04:52] <lotuspsychje> geekosopher: describe the problem for us plz
[04:54] <geekosopher> it says: downloading http://archive.canonical.com/..../adobe-flashplugin/adobe-flashplugin_20150623.1.orig.tar.gz
[04:54] <geekosopher> it remains so for long
[04:55] <Gurathnaka> Ooh, i had another quick question. Is installing different desktop enviroments in Ubuntu a bad idea? I tried to install the kubuntu desktop earlier, and there were a lot of problems with it and it didn't work very well. Was wondering if i just messed up, or if it's a just generally a bad idea
[04:55] <geekosopher> then the message comes - Installing from local file /tmp/tmp<something>.gz
[04:55] <lotuspsychje> Gurathnaka: the smoothest way, is to install your flavor directly
[04:55] <ubskeur> now libparted bugs -_-
[04:55] <lotuspsychje> Gurathnaka: if you want kubuntu, then install kubuntu desktop 14.04 example
[04:56] <ubuntu936> geekosopher: I had an error out a couple of days ago, that li k is dead try changing the server
[04:56] <ubuntu936> link*
[04:56] <lotuspsychje> Gurathnaka: of course you can install kubuntu-desktop from an ubuntu install also
[04:57] <Gurathnaka> lotuspsychje, thats what i did, but i ended up reformatting in the end, since i couldn't get rid of the kubuntu deskto, which had many bugs for some reason
[04:58] <lotuspsychje> Gurathnaka: clean installs are reccomended just for that reason
[04:59] <Gurathnaka> lotuspsychje, I see, thanks
[04:59] <lotuspsychje> Gurathnaka: if you wanna test flavors in the future, theres always virtualbox also
[05:00] <lotuspsychje> Gurathnaka: you would be able to test any flavor/distro you want from a solid 14.04 LTS example
[05:00] <Gurathnaka> lotuspsychje, I do have one last question to ask before i go (i'm sorry). But is Mint an Ubuntu flavor? Or just based on Ubuntu?
[05:00] <lotuspsychje> !mint | Gurathnaka
[05:01] <Gurathnaka> wow that bot is pretty impressive
[05:02] <geekosopher> ubuntu936: which server did you try?
[05:02] <Gurathnaka> lotuspsychje, well, thank you very much for the help, i appreciate it :)
[05:02] <Gurathnaka> i've got to go now, cya all
[05:02] <lotuspsychje> Gurathnaka: everyone can choose what he likes, but in my opinion, 14.04 LTS is most solid version ive had
[05:02] <lotuspsychje> Gurathnaka: good luck!
[05:03] <Gurathnaka> lotuspsychje, yeah, i'm thinking i might hold on tight here and explore the other distros through virtualbox or liveusb
[05:03] <cyberalex4life> lotuspsychje, it's quite solid, but nevertheless there are some glitches here and there (usual for linux)
[05:03] <lotuspsychje> cyberalex4life: of course, every system can react different on it
[05:04] <Gurathnaka> thanks again guys, cya around
[05:04] <Abhijit> i have a working Centos installed on UEFI motherboard with encrypted lvm. when i try to install ubuntu 15 it detects the lvm. is it safe to just mount my ubuntu partitions to that lvm? will that work? also my centos has uefi boot . but ubuntu only shows /boot in the list not the uefi. shall i just ignore it?
[05:04] <lotuspsychje> !uefi | Abhijit
[05:04] <hogslammer> man which nvidia drivers do i pick, there is like 6 choices
[05:05] <ubuntu936> geekosopher: In ubuntu there is an search for quickest mirror, and the list of mirrors, I assume kubuntu has something, I chose the fastest for me.
[05:05] <cyberalex4life> lotuspsychje, I had to change Alt+F4 to Alt+F3 and F11 to F12 for full screen (tend to not work after some time)
[05:05] <lotuspsychje> hogslammer: wich grafix card?
[05:05] <hogslammer> i tried 2 of them and i get a hang to the point of running recovery mode.
[05:05] <hogslammer> 750ti
[05:05] <Abhijit> :-(
[05:05] <hogslammer> oh and ide mode fixed the issue
[05:06] <geekosopher> ubuntu936: ok, trying
[05:07] <lotuspsychje> hogslammer: you might not have the correct read/writes on ide mode
[05:07] <lotuspsychje> hogslammer: http://askubuntu.com/questions/425140/unable-toboot-with-nvidia-gtx-750-ti-even-with-latest-beta-drivers
[05:07] <cyberalex4life> hogslammer, try 331, then 331 updates (the updates work better on my laptop with bumblebee and primus)
[05:09] <hogslammer> the old default xorg ones work, but not with multi monitors, it just plays that stupid drum sound for login.
[05:09] <hogslammer> over and over. will hit that link up and see if i get any new help.
[05:18] <canaima> hola
[05:18] <ubskeur> hi
[05:18] <ubskeur> I am having a bug filled day
[05:18] <ubskeur> http://pastebin.com/t6FmLmqC
[05:18] <ubskeur> issue with making a live usb
[05:18] <lotuspsychje> !es | canaima
[05:18] <musclez> hello everyone, http://superuser.com/questions/256856/ubuntu-alert-dev-mapper-localhost-root-does-not-exist-dropping-to-a-shell i get this message when trying to boot in recovery mode-- normal mode wil not work. When I try to run apt-get or dpkg commands, terminal freezes and i have to reboot. orginally i got into this mess from purging old kernels from the /boot drive with terminal and synaptic. at one point i ran boot-repair and seemed t
[05:19] <canaima> holaa
[05:19] <lotuspsychje> ubskeur: did you try to format your usb with gparted first?
[05:19] <geekosopher> canaima: kem chho
[05:20] <ubskeur> lotuspsychje, had to recreate the partition table
[05:20] <ubskeur> lotuspsychje, will putting a partition on fix it?
[05:20] <lotuspsychje> ubskeur: its worth a try to format first with gparted
[05:21] <ubskeur> lotuspsychje, what do you mean by format? create a clean partition?
[05:21] <lotuspsychje> ubskeur: yep a clean fat32 example
[05:21] <lotuspsychje> ubskeur: usb creator will wipe it anyway
[05:21] <ubskeur> lotuspsychje, it didn't have a partition because I had to recreate the partition table
[05:22] <lotuspsychje> ubskeur: if usb creator fails on you, must be something wrong with it right
[05:24] <HarrySacks> Does ubuntu spy on what you do on your computer?
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> HarrySacks: you already asked this question
[05:24] <HarrySacks> dos it?
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> HarrySacks: please no repeating here
[05:25] <ubskeur> HarrySacks, it shouldn't, if you suspect it is, try a packet sniffer
[05:26] <ubskeur> lotuspsychje, sorry to bother you again, but my 14.04 computer is refusing to install updates XD
[05:26] <lotuspsychje> ubskeur: getting errors?
[05:26] <ubskeur> lotuspsychje, "check your internet connection"
[05:26] <lotuspsychje> ubskeur: cable or wifi?
[05:26] <ubskeur> wifi
[05:26] <lotuspsychje> ubskeur: and your connected to wifi?
[05:27] <ubskeur> lotuspsychje, yes, I can access the internet through a browser
[05:27] <lotuspsychje> ubskeur: what command did you type?
[05:27] <ubskeur> lotuspsychje, using the software updater application, going to try apt-get now
[05:27] <lotuspsychje> ubskeur: yeah try a sudo apt-get update
[05:28] <ubskeur> lotuspsychje, "Reading package lists... done"
[05:28] <lotuspsychje> ubskeur: then sudo apt-get upgrade
[05:29] <drfoobaz> Hey, any idea why I might start experiencing screen tearing when moving windows as soon as I switch to the recommended proprietary graphics drivers (nvidia)?
[05:29] <lotuspsychje> drfoobaz: wich card do you have mate, and wich ubuntu version?
[05:29] <ubskeur> lotuspsychje, 403
[05:30] <lotuspsychje> ubskeur: can you pastebin the output plz?
[05:30] <drfoobaz> lotuspsychje: GeForce GTX 675MX and Ubuntu 14 LTS
[05:30] <lotuspsychje> drfoobaz: you know if thats an optimus card?
[05:30] <ubskeur> lotuspsychje, won't all fit in terminal, I'll copy most of it
[05:31] <drfoobaz> lotuspsychje: I'm pretty sure it isn't.
[05:31] <ubskeur> lotuspsychje, pastebin.com/Q1hqdn51
[05:32] <VFDPrim> evening all
[05:32] <ubskeur> o/
[05:32] <VFDPrim> so i need to make all downloads auto go into a freespace folder can any one tell me how to make that happen?
[05:32] <ubskeur> depends on your browser
[05:33] <VFDPrim> oh?? chrome
[05:33] <drfoobaz> VFDPrim: In Firefox, it's right on the settings page.
[05:33] <lotuspsychje> ubskeur: http://askubuntu.com/questions/135932/apt-get-update-failure-to-fetch-cant-connect-to-any-sources
[05:33] <drfoobaz> What directory to put downloads in, I mean.
[05:33] <VFDPrim> DR not sure what you mean
[05:34] <ubskeur> VFDPrim, go to settings (top right drop down), show advanced options, and scroll down to downloads
[05:34] <VFDPrim> oh well that was easy thank you very much sr
[05:34] <VFDPrim> or ms,
[05:35] <ubskeur> it's very obscure name, hehe
[05:36] <VFDPrim> lol sexless definatly lol
[05:36] <VFDPrim> well here i was looking in my ubuntu options and so easy from the internet lol thank you very much that should take care of my issue
[05:36] <Remoboth> GUys.
[05:37] <Remoboth> I accidentally installed both Java Oracle 7 AND 8.
[05:37] <Remoboth> Is there a way to get rid of 8?
[05:37] <drfoobaz> Any ideas on my graphics issue?
[05:37] <VFDPrim> new card? lol sorry i know NOTHING about computers
[05:37] <lotuspsychje> drfoobaz: not sure, did you try all drivers switch from additional drivers?
[05:38] <ubskeur> VFDPrim, which card?
[05:38] <drfoobaz> lotuspsychje: Hm. How much worse is performance with the Noveau driver? If it performs better on basic stuff and is only slightly worse on games, I may just use that.
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> drfoobaz: best driver, would be the one perfoming best on your system
[05:39] <eswecha> how to specify dependencies in control file while making deb package..?
[05:39] <VFDPrim> last time i had issue i just got a new card becasue the motherboard could not run both my screens
[05:39] <VFDPrim> no issue since
[05:39] <ubskeur> VFDPrim, ok, I thought you had issues with your current card :P
[05:40] <drfoobaz> lotuspsychje: Maybe that's what I should go by. Because everyone always says that you need to switch to proprietary drivers for gaming, but for the games I play at least I've never had any issues with the open source ones.
[05:40] <drfoobaz> lotuspsychje: Thanks for the advice!
[05:40] <VFDPrim> oh no thank goodness lol
[05:40] <lotuspsychje> drfoobaz: there are also gaming tricks for ubuntu, making everything more smooth
[05:40] <lotuspsychje> !info preload | drfoobaz
[05:41] <eswecha> how to specify dependencies in control file while making deb package..?
[05:41] <zykotick9> drfoobaz: sidenote, nouveau is better then open source, it's free software.
[05:41] <lotuspsychje> drfoobaz: is it for steam?
[05:41] <drfoobaz> lotuspsychje: Mostly Civ (from steam), very little else.
[05:42] <drfoobaz> zykotick9: Yes, yes. :)
[05:42] <VFDPrim> steam can be a pain when it comes to the right driver
[05:42] <ubskeur> lotuspsychje, still getting 403 errors
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> drfoobaz: check this:
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> http://www.howtogeek.com/132549/6-tips-for-improving-game-performance-with-steam-on-linux/
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> ubskeur: did you add that nameserver line?
[05:42] <Smileychatter> Question: I am looking for the "Ubuntu for android" group page on Launchpad after reading an article = Can someone find it for me please ?
[05:42] <ubskeur> lotuspsychje, yes
[05:43] <ubskeur> lotuspsychje, uh, didn't restart the service, hold on
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> ubskeur: try a reboot and sudo apt-get upgrade again?
[05:43] <drfoobaz> lotuspsychje: Thanks.
[05:44] <lotuspsychje> drfoobaz: clean system out with bleachbit, can make things faster also
[05:44] <drfoobaz> Do I need to restart my machine after switching graphics drivers to test the effect?
[05:44] <ubskeur> drfoobaz, probably
[05:44] <VFDPrim> that depends... mine didnt do anything till restart
[05:44] <drfoobaz> Okay, I'll be experimenting with that stuff now.
[05:45] <drfoobaz> Thanks for the advice guys. Bye!
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> drfoobaz: good luck!
[05:45] <VFDPrim> now it just does waird shit when starting or turning off the comp lol
[05:45] <VFDPrim> stuff** sorry
[05:45] <zykotick9> drfoobaz: sidenote #2, propritary nvidia kernel blacklists the nouveau driver, and _probably_ need to be manually removed... <- just in case
[05:45] <ubskeur> VFDPrim, mine does weird graphical stuff too, and has done for a while. I just ingore it
[05:46] <ubskeur> lotuspsychje, after reboot still getting 403 errors
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> ubskeur: firewall/router block by any chance?
[05:46] <VFDPrim> yea mine does this hole dot matrix thing lol wish i could screen capture it lol then says something cant be found and eventualy after about 10 seconds goes to my log in screen and works great
[05:47] <ubskeur> lotuspsychje, no firewall, router doesn't block anything, works fine on different computer (same network)
[05:48] <ubskeur> lotuspsychje, doing --fix-missing seemed to help
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> ubskeur: solved now?
[05:50] <ubskeur> lotuspsychje, 11mb of the 28mb installed, still not entirely solved
[05:50] <Smileychatter> Wait is "Ubuntu for android" under this group in Launchpad or is it somewhere else ?
[05:51] <Smileychatter> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/android-tools
[05:51] <sven-> Hi guys. I am about to install PyCharm 4.5 on Ubuntu 15.04. I am trying to figure out where the extracted tarball should be placed before I execute the sh file to install it. Any suggestions.
[05:51] <lotuspsychje> Smileychatter: what are you trying to do exactly?
[05:51] <cfhowlett> Smileychatter, ubuntu for android is abandonware.
[05:52] <ubskeur> sven-, there is a search button in top right
[05:52] <VFDPrim> cant wait till we can get an ubuntu phone in the usa
[05:52] <eswecha> how to specify dependencies in control file while making deb package..?
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> !touch | VFDPrim
[05:53] <VFDPrim> thanks but i got a crap phone and would rather just get to buy a phone with it already on it lol
[05:54] <pepa> google
[05:54] <pepa> seznam.cz
[05:55] <pepa> google.cz
[05:55] <Smileychatter> lotuspsychje: cfhowlett Right, but there must have been a group or a bug on Launchpad about Ubuntu for android at some stage - just trying to find it for a bounty.
[05:56] <lilrebel> I have not used linux in about 12 years, I just installed ubuntu 14 and so far am loving it.
[05:56] <lilrebel> alot prettier than I remember linux
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> !test | pepa
[05:56] <ubskeur> lilrebel, it is great when it works, hence why I'm here :P
[05:57] <lotuspsychje> ubskeur: maybe play with sources: http://askubuntu.com/questions/298177/a-failed-to-fetch-error-occurs-when-apt-get-update-is-run-how-do-i-fix-this
[05:57] <lilrebel> I used to run redhat, but i see it is now proprietary
[05:57] <ubskeur> ubskeur, I have done that, trying a different download server now
[05:58] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | lilrebel
[05:58] <ubskeur> lotuspsychje, what I said before
[05:58] <azizLIGHT> what packages does 15.04 server install if you select LAMP in the setup?
[05:58] <lotuspsychje> ubskeur: oh right missed that :p
[05:58] <lotuspsychje> !lamp | azizLIGHT
[05:58] <VFDPrim> well im outa hear thanks for salvin my problem
[05:59] <ubskeur> lotuspsychje, swapping servers worked :D
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> !yay | ubskeur
[05:59] <ubskeur> lotuspsychje, now to fix my other 2 errors :D
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> lol
[05:59] <Smileychatter> Ok, no-one is helping me so I'm going to put a bounty on that package "android-tools" about ubuntu for android. OK ?
[06:00] <ubskeur> Smileychatter, why do you care about ubuntu for android?
[06:00] <Smileychatter> because I want Ubuntu on android. simples.
[06:00] <ubskeur> Smileychatter, the project has been abandoned, not sure it's worth looking for
[06:01] <azizLIGHT> is this list of packages correct for server 15.04 LAMP: apache2 apache2-mpm-prefork apache2-utils apache2.2-common libapache2-mod-php5 libapr1 libaprutil1 libdbd-mysql-perl libdbi-perl libnet-daemon-perl libplrpc-perl libpq5 mysql-client-5.5 mysql-common mysql-server mysql-server-5.5 php5-common php5-mysql
[06:01] <musclez> is there anyone who can help me a) solve"Alert: /dev/mapper/localhost-root does not exist. Dropping to a shell" when i try to boot, and b) apt-get and dpkg crashes terminal when running dpkg commands... i've lookat at tutoprials on reinstall lvm2.. ive tried running boot-repair.. ive tried resintally kernels.. nothhing is clicking
[06:01] <Smileychatter> It doesn't matter - if there is bug , then there is a bounty , and I'm rich - $50,000 rich - so I'm gonna do it.
[06:02] <musclez> reinstally :)
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> Smileychatter: apt-cache search android, you might find something usefull
[06:02] <ubskeur> Smileychatter, the project is no longer under active development, therefore any bug reporting and fixing is probably unused
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> Smileychatter: abd by the way, you can install ubuntu-touch on some nexus devices: try #ubuntu-touch
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> Smileychatter: there's gonna be an android app emulator on touch pretty soon
[06:04] <musclez> i had root access with live usb. but now i swithced to the boot-repair live cd with no results
[06:04] <musclez> but i still have access
[06:05] <lotuspsychje> !lvm | musclez can this help?
[06:05] <azizLIGHT> how much space should i give 15.04 server with LAMP and small site?
[06:05] <musclez> root says lvm2 is installed
[06:05] <cfhowlett> azizLIGHT, ask #ubuntu-server
[06:06] <lotuspsychje> musclez: maybe #lvm can help too?
[06:10] <musclez> lotuspsychje i posted in there as well... hoever i think i need a miracle worker
[06:15] <agent_white> Evenin' folks
[06:17] <HarrySacks> Does canonical spy on what you do on your computer?
[06:17] <cfhowlett> HarrySacks, no
[06:17] <musclez> technically, yes
[06:17] <cfhowlett> !fud | harrysacks musclez
[06:18] <musclez> well they uincorporate amazon keywords into your search results
[06:18] <musclez> for one
[06:26] <ObrienDave> OMG again???
[06:30] <musclez> is there a channel for grub?
[06:31] <treelzebub> yup. i'll give you one guess what it's called ;)
[06:31] <musclez> i jsut tried to get into that it didnt work
[06:31] <treelzebub> well, it exists. dunno what to tell ya
[06:34] <pc1161kkc> thai
[06:34] <EriC^^> musclez: what's the problem?
[06:36] <musclez> eric^^ my boot-repair does not see any grub location, options or mbr options. I can only acces my disk though the live USB. when i boot up into recovery mode, i get the error "ALERT! /dev/mapper/localhost-root does not exist. Dropping to a shell!" apt-get and dpkg crash when i try to run dpkg commands in terminal with chroot
[06:37] <EriC^^> musclez: ok, are you in a live usb right now?
[06:38] <ubskeur> noo lotuspsychje is gone :(
[06:38] <musclez> eric^^ im in the boot-repair live usb
[06:38] <EriC^^> ok, type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[06:39] <musclez> do i ned to be under root?
[06:39] <ubskeur> so I have an alsa bug effecting timidity and audacity on ubuntu 15.04, and a clean install did not fix it
[06:40] <EriC^^> musclez: no
[06:40] <EriC^^> sudo will take care of that
[06:41] <ubskeur> musclez, sudo does commands under root
[06:41] <musclez> i ewmant chroot
[06:41] <musclez> meant*
[06:41] <Gurathnaka> Hey everyone. I have a lot of music on my iPod. I'm wondering what is the best way to rip it to the computer without using closed source software such as itunes
[06:41] <EriC^^> musclez: no
[06:41] <EriC^^> Gurathnaka: i think rhythmbox can rip them
[06:42] <Gurathnaka> Huh, i wasn't really a fan of rhythembox, i was more hoping i could rip it to my music folder somehow
[06:42] <ubskeur> Gurathnaka, ipods store music in an apple format, so it can be really difficult to work with them
[06:43] <musclez> eric^^ termbin.com:ixg7
[06:43] <Gurathnaka> ubskeur, i never used itunes in windows
[06:43] <ubskeur> Gurathnaka, if rhythmbox can do it, it can also save it to files in your music folder
[06:43] <EriC^^> Gurathnaka: you can, just use rhythmbox to rip it there
[06:43] <TJ-> musclez: did you check the dmesg output in case there are disk I/O errors causing all your problems?
[06:43] <Gurathnaka> none of my things are in aac itunes format
[06:43] <ubskeur> Gurathnaka, oh, what type of ipod?
[06:43] <Gurathnaka> ipod classic
[06:43] <musclez> hey tj-, i dont knwo how to do that
[06:43] <Gurathnaka> an oldie
[06:44] <Gurathnaka> ubskeur, thanks
[06:44] <Gurathnaka> and eric
[06:44] <ubskeur> Gurathnaka, how did you get the music on there?
[06:44] <EriC^^> Gurathnaka: you can copy them manually if you want, but you won't have a neat dir and names, just 12312.mp3 and 2342342.mp3 as names in 1 dir
[06:44] <Gurathnaka> foobar 2000
[06:44] <monkeyhat> hi
[06:44] <EriC^^> rhythmbox does it well Gurathnaka
[06:44] <Gurathnaka> Thanks guys, i will try that out
[06:45] <Gurathnaka> i appreciate the help :)
[06:45] <Holy_C> hi hi~
[06:45] <EriC^^> musclez: type sudo blkid | nc termbin.com 9999
[06:45] <TJ-> musclez: 'dmesg' is a command that dumps the kernel's log buffer. To view it via a pager, a screen at a time, I usually do: "dmesg | less" and then scroll through looking for issues. You can press "G" to Goto the end of the file and then work backwards, and press "q" to quit back to the shell
[06:46] <ubskeur> where do I view/report alsa bugs? https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug is giving me connection refused
[06:46] <musclez> eric^^ termbin.com/b9x2
[06:48] <EriC^^> musclez: do you have the passphrase of your encrypted partition?
[06:48] <musclez> yess
[06:48] <EriC^^> ok, type sudo cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sda3 bla
[06:48] <musclez> normally it would prompt me for it on startup
[06:48] <musclez> sorry, redo that last command?
[06:49] <EriC^^> sudo cryptsetup ... ?
[06:49] <EriC^^> type it and it should ask for your passphrase
[06:49] <musclez> i opened it thorugh the gui, is that alright?
[06:49] <EriC^^> nah
[06:49] <TJ-> EriC^^: It's a UEFI system, and the reports from last night with random failures of apt/dpkg and unexpected SEGFAULTs made me suspect and suggest either RAM or I/O corruption, plus the UEFI boot-menu has 'lost' the OS entry apparently
[06:50] <musclez> TJ- http://pastebin.com/zsaktsgi
[06:51] <musclez> Eric^^ it says its already mappe doir mounted, do i have to rebot?
[06:52] <ubskeur> anyone know where I can get help with ALSA?
[06:52] <EriC^^> musclez: ok, try rebooting
[06:55] <musclez> ok it accepted the pass
[06:55] <EriC^^> ok, type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[06:56] <musclez> http://termbin.com/gege
[06:56] <ubskeur> !test
[06:59] <EriC^^> musclez: type sudo mount /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root /mnt
[06:59] <musclez> eric^^, do u want the blkid?
[06:59] <musclez> k
[07:00] <musclez> its mounted
[07:01] <EriC^^> musclez: type sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/boot/efi
[07:01] <EriC^^> hold on
[07:01] <EriC^^> type ls -l /mnt/boot
[07:01] <EriC^^> is it empty?
[07:02] <musclez> total 0
[07:02] <EriC^^> ok type sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/boot
[07:02] <musclez> yeah before that: mount point /mnt/boot/efi does not exist
[07:02] <musclez> mounted
[07:02] <EriC^^> musclez: type sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/boot/efi
[07:03] <musclez> mounted
[07:03] <EriC^^> musclez: for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[07:05] <musclez> im not sure i understand this last step
[07:05] <musclez> nvm got u, its a variable
[07:05] <EriC^^> it's a for loop that bind mounts the virtual filesystems
[07:05] <EriC^^> ok
[07:06] <musclez> include the $'s?
[07:06] <TJ-> EriC^^: for a chroot, the /boot/ file-system should be mounted after entering the chroot, otherwise grub can have problems locating the underlying device (I usually only mount the root-fs and the system mounts, and then do "mount -a" inside the chroot)
[07:07] <EriC^^> musclez: yes, the whole command
[07:08] <musclez> starting with "for i in..."?
[07:08] <ObrienDave> that IS the whole command. copy and paste
[07:08] <EriC^^> yes, for i ... til done
[07:09] <musclez> thats next level... alright 1 sec
[07:10] <buffon137> how to use usbip on xubuntu 15.04 ? because the usespace tool of usbip is too old and not available in the repository of xubuntu 15.04 , Although it can be installed by apt-get.any help will be very appreciated !
[07:10] <buffon137> how to use usbip on xubuntu 15.04 ? because the usespace tool of usbip is too old and not available in the repository of xubuntu 15.04 , Although it can be installed by apt-get.any help will be very appreciated !
[07:11] <bazhang> !info usbip
[07:11] <buffon137> on xubuntu 14.04 , the userspace part of usbip could be compiled , but on xubuntu 15.04 , " apt-get install linux-source " the souce code of userspace part can not be found in the corresponding directory
[07:11] <bazhang> its in the repos buffon137 install from there
[07:12] <musclez> eric^^ http://pastebin.com/5axyzgvz
[07:12] <EriC^^> musclez: there's a space between $i and /mnt$i
[07:12] <musclez> rgr, done
[07:12] <buffon137> I have install usbip by " apt-get install usbip" , but I found the usbip is too old
[07:12] <EriC^^> musclez: ok, type sudo chroot /mnt
[07:13] <buffon137> usbipd -D can not start runing
[07:13] <bazhang> buffon137, what exactly do you need with very newest version
[07:13] <musclez> eric^^ ok
[07:13] <EriC^^> musclez: type grub-install
[07:13] <bazhang> !tab | buffon137
[07:14] <buffon137> I don'n need the newest version , I just only want the usbip is available
[07:14] <bazhang> buffon137, it IS available
[07:14] <musclez> http://pastebin.com/zz91vtcm
[07:15] <musclez> ive seen this erro before
[07:15] <EriC^^> musclez: type dpkg -l | grep grub | nc termbin.com 9999
[07:15] <buffon137> usbip err: stub_driver.c: 33 (open_sysfs_stub_driver) usbip_common_mod.ko and usbip.ko must be loaded
[07:15] <buffon137> ** (process:3952): ERROR **: driver open failed
[07:15] <buffon137> Trace/breakpoint trap (core dumped)
[07:15] <EriC^^> musclez: i think you have legacy grub installed
[07:15] <buffon137> that is the error
[07:16] <bazhang> buffon137, what version of ubuntu are you on
[07:16] <bazhang> buffon137, you have any PPA installed there
[07:16] <bazhang> buffon137, is this MINT
[07:17] <musclez> http://termbin.com/q04j
[07:17] <EriC^^> musclez: ok, type cat /etc/fstab | nc termbin.com 9999
[07:17] <buffon137> MINT ?
[07:18] <buffon137> I 'm using xubuntu 15.04
[07:18] <bazhang> buffon137, please answer my questions above
[07:18] <buffon137> I don't use PPA
[07:19] <musclez> http://termbin.com/i0ec
[07:20] <EriC^^> musclez: ok, try apt-get install --reinstall grub-efi-amd64
[07:21] <musclez> http://pastebin.com/w9rru7j
[07:22] <EriC^^> musclez: it says the paste has been removed
[07:22] <musclez> http://pastebin.com/w9srru7j
[07:23] <TJ-> EriC^^: The grub-install error is most likely because the system has been booted in legacy mode, or the ESP hasn't been mounted to /boot/efi/
[07:24] <EriC^^> worth a a shot i guess
[07:24] <EriC^^> musclez: type ls -ld /sys/firmware/efi does it exist?
[07:24] <EriC^^> also type mount | nc termbin.com 9999
[07:25] <musclez> i have to reboot now... dpkg crashes the system
[07:25] <EriC^^> press ctrl+c
[07:25] <EriC^^> or close the terminal and open a new one
[07:25] <musclez> ^c appears
[07:26] <TJ-> EriC^^: The 'statoverride' issue is likely due to a package's user ID having been manually deleted from /etc/passwd. Can check on the expected overrides with "dpkg-statoverride --list"
[07:26] <EriC^^> musclez: try alt+f4
[07:26] <musclez> no such file or directory
[07:27] <EriC^^> ls -ld /sys/firmware/efi ?
[07:27] <EriC^^> ok, reboot and make sure you boot the usb in uefi mode
[07:27] <musclez> http://termbin.com/x54u
[07:28] <musclez> alrgihty
[07:28] <EriC^^> TJ-: you mean like sshd being deleted from /etc/passwd ?
[07:30] <TJ-> EriC^^: In this case "amavis" suggests the anti-virus/MTA interface amavisd package
[07:31] <musclez> booted in efi
[07:31] <EriC^^> ok, same drill
[07:31] <EriC^^> cryptsetup ...
[07:32] <musclez> kk
[07:32] <EriC^^> TJ-: how can he solve that?
[07:33] <musclez> do you wnat the termbins or just wnat me to mount everything?
[07:33] <EriC^^> it's ok, just mount
[07:34] <TJ-> EriC^^: apt-get --reinstall install <Package> possibly, or possibly dpkg-statoverride has an option
[07:35] <EriC^^> TJ-: i think something else is wrong too, cause usually grub complains about missing efivars when it's not booted in efi mode
[07:38] <TJ-> EriC^^: From what I saw yesterday with this, the system is quite broken. Lots of erratic and unexpected failures
[07:38] <musclez> eric^^ mounted
[07:39] <EriC^^> musclez: did you run the for i .. done lastly?
[07:39] <musclez> yes
[07:39] <EriC^^> ok, type sudo chroot /mnt
[07:39] <musclez> k
[07:39] <Remoboth> If I deleted an app and it still shows up in my menu how can I delete that portion in the menu?
[07:40] <TJ-> EriC^^: This is the log of the chat on this issue: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11782366/
[07:40] <EriC^^> thanks
[07:41] <MonkeyDust> Remoboth use 'alacarte'
[07:41] <Remoboth> MonkeyDust- Alacarte?
[07:41] <Remoboth> Is that an app?
[07:41] <Remoboth> Or a command?
[07:41] <musclez> eric^^ im in root@ubuntu
[07:42] <EriC^^> musclez: ok, type grub-install
[07:42] <musclez> instal finished no error reported
[07:43] <MonkeyDust> Remoboth it's an app
[07:43] <musclez> that is a first... notmally it crashes out there
[07:44] <EriC^^> musclez: ok, cool
[07:44] <EriC^^> musclez: type update-grub
[07:44] <Remoboth> MonkeyDust- Its a menu editing tool... I just want to delete the residuals of an app in the menu and in the system after removing it. :-P
[07:45] <TJ-> EriC^^: If you've not already planned on it, best to use efibootmgr to check there's a boot entry actually 'stuck' in the UEFI vars
[07:45] <MonkeyDust> Remoboth you mean like purge? try sudo apt-get purge [program]; sudo aptitude purge ~c
[07:46] <MonkeyDust> (that's no typo, it really is '~c')
[07:46] <EriC^^> TJ-: yeah good idea
[07:46] <musclez> it keeps cycling "found linux image: found initrd image: xxxxxx3.13.0.57-generic for both"
[07:46] <bz_>
[07:46] <musclez> it hasent stopped
[07:46] <Syncazor> How to install ubuntu without wubi
[07:47] <Syncazor> How to install ubuntu without wubi with a USB
[07:47] <EriC^^> !install | Syncazor
[07:48] <musclez> http://pastebin.com/9mjqgl67
[07:48] <michael_p> can i downgrade to 14:04 and keep files
[07:48] <musclez> eric^^
[07:48] <Syncazor> EriC^^: , Does the third link use wubi?
[07:48] <ObrienDave> Wubi needs to die a slow, painful death
[07:49] <Remoboth> DIdn't work.
[07:49] <EriC^^> Syncazor: no, it uses grub4dos to load the iso
[07:50] <EriC^^> Syncazor: if you have a usb, just make a live usb and you should be ok
[07:50] <Syncazor> EriC^^: Well that's the think
[07:50] <Syncazor> Syncazor: When I use my usb, and try install I get a continuous blinking '_'
[07:50] <EriC^^> !nomodeset | Syncazor
[07:50] <Syncazor> (I'm installing onto a blank hdd)
[07:50] <lotuspsychje> michael_p: downgrading isnt reccomended, install fresh instead
[07:51] <EriC^^> musclez: maybe there's something wrong with the files in /etc/grub.d ?
[07:51] <Syncazor> EriC^^: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 doesn't tell how to do it with wubi
[07:52] <Remoboth> IT is a desktop configuration file in my applications folder.
[07:52] <EriC^^> Syncazor: you're trying to install with wubi or without?
[07:52] <EriC^^> wubi isn't recommended anymore
[07:53] <Syncazor> EriC^^: `, on my usb I used unetbootin to put ubuntu onto my usb
[07:53] <Syncazor> EriC^^: , and when i read through the ubuntu.iso, there's wubi in it
[07:54] <musclez> http://pastebin.com/58fdez5n
[07:54] <lotuspsychje> Syncazor: is that a 12.04 iso?
[07:55] <EriC^^> musclez: type ls -l /etc/grub.d | nc termbin.com 9999
[07:55] <Syncazor> 15
[07:55] <Syncazor> EriC^^: 15
[07:55] <EriC^^> musclez: thanks
[07:55] <lotuspsychje> Syncazor: try this tool to make usb: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[07:55] <EriC^^> Syncazor: yeah it's still there, ignore it though
[07:55] <Syncazor> lotuspsychje: I've already moved it onto my usb with unetbootin
[07:56] <EriC^^> Syncazor: just boot the usb as usual and install
[07:56] <EriC^^> set your bios to boot it before the hdd
[07:56] <Remoboth> I can no longer copy and paste....
[07:56] <Remoboth> Is that a normal bug?
[07:57] <EriC^^> musclez: type cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg | nc termbin.com 9999
[07:57] <EriC^^> musclez: also, efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999
[07:57] <lotuspsychje> Remoboth: ubuntu version?
[07:58] <Remoboth> I am trying to delete a desktop configuration file stuck in a menu.
[07:58] <Remoboth> Oh wait... I can copy and paste, just not to XChat.
[07:58] <Remoboth> Weird.
[07:58] <Remoboth> lotuspsychje- LXLE
[07:58] <lotuspsychje> Remoboth: use ctrl x and ctrl v for xchat paste/copy
[07:58] <musclez> http://termbin.com/ilrd http://termbin.com/djy0
[07:59] <musclez> http://termbin.com/1lrd
[07:59] <Syncazor> EriC^^: How to install ubuntu 15 onto usb?
[08:00] <MonkeyDust> Syncazor you mean like a !persistent installation?
[08:00] <Remoboth> lotuspsychje- THanks
[08:00] <lotuspsychje> !yay | Remoboth
[08:01] <Remoboth> O.k... I want to delete this desktop config file...
[08:01] <Remoboth> Any command to do so?
[08:01] <Syncazor> MonkeyDust: I want to use something like unetbootin
[08:01] <Remoboth> SOmeone here helped me last week.
[08:01] <Remoboth> With this same problem.
[08:01] <EriC^^> Syncazor: if you used unetbootin to install it to the usb, then all you have to do is boot it and install to your hdd
[08:02] <Syncazor> EriC^^: I selected ubuntu then 14_live with unetbootin, then ran it on my pc, and it said invalid kernal image
[08:02] <Syncazor> EriC^^: Because I tried to use 15
[08:02] <Remoboth> /home/usr/.local/share/applications/criticalmass.desktop This is where the desktop config file is stuck. ANy help?
[08:02] <EriC^^> Syncazor: dd the image
[08:02] <bazhang> !lxle | Remoboth
[08:03] <Remoboth> bazhang - I respect that but someone here helped me delete the file last week.
[08:03] <EriC^^> Syncazor: sudo dd if=/path/to/iso of=/dev/sdX bs=4M && sync
[08:03] <Remoboth> bazhang - IT is the same file. I just hate to do a clean install of LXLE.
[08:03] <EriC^^> Syncazor: where sdX is your usb
[08:03] <bazhang> Remoboth, ask the lxle support people, its not supported here
[08:04] <EriC^^> musclez: try booting into the system
[08:04] <EriC^^> it should boot, still need to fix dpkg and grub though
[08:04] <EriC^^> musclez: type exit, then reboot
[08:04] <Syncazor> EriC^^: how do i sudo the image?
[08:04] <musclez> i jsut hit reboot, does that mess it up?
[08:05] <musclez> does not boot into normal mode, trying recovery
[08:05] <lotuspsychje> Syncazor: what are you trying to doe exactly?
[08:05] <EriC^^> musclez: what did it say?
[08:05] <musclez> it just freezes
[08:06] <Syncazor> lotuspsychje: install ubuntu 15 with a usb onto a blank hdd
[08:06] <musclez> same deal with the recovery mode... dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root does not exist dropping to a shell
[08:06] <lotuspsychje> Syncazor: as been suggested, reboot into your usb stick and install on your blank hd
[08:06] <musclez> and then timestamps of usb devices
[08:07] <Syncazor> lotuspsychje: but how do i put ubuntu 15 on the usb
[08:07] <TJ-> EriC^^: musclez That sounds like the initrd doesn't have the cryptsetup hooks installed
[08:07] <lotuspsychje> Syncazor: you just said you succeeded with unetbootin to make the usb?
[08:07] <Syncazor> lotuspsychje: no, it says invalid kernal image
[08:08] <squinty> Syncazor, when you use unetbootin, use the lower half of the unetbootin screen.... click on Diskimage > ISO use the directory selector to select the directory where the iso resides. and Type = "USB Drive" plus select the proper usb stick name (eg G:\ or /dev/sb1) and if you want make a persistence file (for Ubuntu based iso's only) by filling in the "Space used to preserve...etc)
[08:08] <Syncazor> lotuspsychje: because in unetbootin there is no unbuntu 15
[08:08] <lotuspsychje> Syncazor: make a stick with this tool:http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[08:08] <Syncazor> lotuspsychje: does it support 15?
[08:08] <EriC^^> musclez: ok, boot the live usb again
[08:08] <lotuspsychje> Syncazor: supports any .iso
[08:08] <MonkeyDust> Syncazor download the 15.04 iso, then use unetbeootin
[08:09] <squinty> Syncazor, If it is not listed, then use the method I just posted
[08:09] <musclez> uefi or usb?
[08:09] <MonkeyDust> Syncazor if it's not in the dropdown menu, simply download it
[08:09] <TJ-> musclez: always UEFI :)
[08:12] <musclez> uefi crashes a lot
[08:12] <musclez> i still haven tgot it ot boot
[08:13] <TJ-> musclez: Ubuntu is installed in UEFI boot mode, so to recover it you always need to boot in that same mode, even for the Live ISO
[08:13] <musclez> im back inm
[08:13] <TJ-> musclez: everything points to disk corruption; UEFI mode is working as it should, has nothing to do with the crashes
[08:13] <Syncazor> Data error in ".disk\cd_type". File is broken
[08:13] <Syncazor> Did it corrupt when i downloaded/
[08:13] <Syncazor> Did it corrupt when i downloaded?
[08:14] <lotuspsychje> !md5 | Syncazor
[08:16] <EriC^^> TJ-: should he do a smart test?
[08:16] <EriC^^> or maybe fsck the partition?
[08:17] <musclez> i think this happend when i ran boot-repair for the first time
[08:17] <TJ-> EriC^^: I think both, and I'd check the kernel logs for signs of I/O errors, and it needs a memtest doing, which is problematical on UEFI!
[08:18] <TJ-> EriC^^: I think that update-grub loop might be caused by the /boot/ directory having a looping inode
[08:19] <TJ-> I strongly suspect faulty memory myself; causing corrupted disk buffers that get flushed to disk
[08:19] <EriC^^> musclez: ok, type sudo apt-get install smartmontools && sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda | nc termbin.com 9999
[08:22] <musclez> postfix configureation popped up.. is this right?
[08:22] <michael_p> my usb is not showing up
[08:23] <lotuspsychje> michael_p: what are you trying to do?
[08:23] <michael_p> i am trying to get a directory listing of my usb drive
[08:24] <musclez> http://termbin.com/os0u
[08:24] <lotuspsychje> michael_p: and your usb doesnt jump open?
[08:25] <michael_p> no
[08:25] <EriC^^> anybody know about smart tests?
[08:25] <EriC^^> TJ-: could you take a look at musclez 's smart test? http://termbin.com/os0u
[08:25] <lotuspsychje> michael_p: try tail -f /var/log/syslog and plugin your usb, see what errors come up
[08:25] <TJ-> musclez: That looks good, is there another drive in there that also needs testing?
[08:25] <musclez> no
[08:26] <TJ-> musclez: EriC^^ time for some file-system checks then :)
[08:27] <EriC^^> musclez: type sudo cryptsetup ...
[08:28] <EriC^^> musclez: but don't mount anything
[08:28] <TJ-> musclez: I'm about to leave for a kernel boot test; good luck :)
[08:29] <musclez> tj- thanks again man your help means a lot to mean ive been so stuck for almost a week now
[08:29] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: you also good luck :p
[08:29] <musclez> i really appreciate the time
[08:30] <musclez> eric^^ i'm in
[08:30] <EriC^^> musclez: type mount | nc termbin.com 9999
[08:31] <MonkeyDust> musclez i havent followed, what are you struggling with?
[08:31] <musclez> http://termbin.com/mgku
[08:33] <EriC^^> musclez: try sudo fsck /dev/mapper/...
[08:34] <musclez> eric^^ has been helping me fairly thuroughly.. he's seen a lot of the issues that i have been having first hand at this point....
[08:34] <musclez> Kernels wont boot and apt-get and dpkg crash consistently
[08:34] <musclez> http://termbin.com/r594
[08:35] <EriC^^> musclez: did it mention anything else?
[08:35] <musclez> pastebin
[08:36] <musclez> http://pastebin.com/vyhwmuhu
[08:37] <EriC^^> musclez: ok, run it without | nc termbin.com
[08:38] <musclez> that was the first part of tha readout
[08:38] <EriC^^> oh
[08:39] <EriC^^> musclez: type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[08:39] <musclez> termbin.com/aiyt
[08:39] <EriC^^> musclez: type sudo fsck -f /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root
[08:41] <musclez> http://pastebin.comuxsjday6
[08:41] <musclez> http://pastebin.com/uxsjday6
[08:41] <Syncazor> Is it normal for universal usb installer to freeze at 99%?
[08:42] <lotuspsychje> Syncazor: did you wait long enough?
[08:42] <musclez> how long syncazor?
[08:42] <cfhowlett> Syncazor, no. you DID hashsum right?
[08:42] <EriC^^> musclez: ok, type sudo mount /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root /mnt
[08:43] <lotuspsychje> Syncazor: 99% can take some time to make persistent
[08:43] <Syncazor> lotuspsychje: it's stuck at 99% on wubi.exe
[08:43] <EriC^^> musclez: type sudo fsck -f /dev/sda2
[08:43] <Syncazor> lotuspsychje: unzipping
[08:43] <cfhowlett> wubi. that's why. Syncazor wubi is dead, unsupported and IT WILL break your installation of 14.04 or later
[08:43] <lotuspsychje> Syncazor: wich ubuntu iso did you download anyway?
[08:44] <musclez> deleted inode 122 has zero dtime fix y?
[08:44] <EriC^^> yeah
[08:44] <Syncazor> 15, it was corrupted, md5sum checked, i previously download 14, not corrupt
[08:44] <Syncazor> so im installing 14
[08:44] <cfhowlett> Syncazor, wubi will NOT work with 14.04
[08:44] <Syncazor> http://prntscr.com/7lw50i
[08:44] <Syncazor> cfhowlett: ?
[08:44] <Syncazor> cfhowlett: does it work with 15?
[08:45] <musclez> dop i jsut keep hitting y?
[08:45] <EriC^^> musclez: what's it asking?
[08:45] <cfhowlett> Syncazor, no. don't wubi. DON'T. do a proper dual boot or VM ubuntu inside windows
[08:45] <Syncazor> cfhowlett: does wubi work with 15?
[08:45] <musclez> "free blocks count wrong for group #N"
[08:45] <cfhowlett> Syncazor, no. no. and no.
[08:45] <Syncazor> cfhowlett: Im installing from a BLANK HDD
[08:45] <EriC^^> musclez: ok
[08:45] <Syncazor> cfhowlett: so would it matter?
[08:46] <EriC^^> Syncazor: i dont think wubi even works on a blank hdd, it's made for windows
[08:46] <cfhowlett> Syncazor, then why are you even using wubi? wubi was used to install inside of WINDOWS!
[08:46] <lotuspsychje> Syncazor: you have an error on your screenshot, autorun.inf
[08:46] <TJ-> EriC^^: Might be worth scrapping the /boot/ (sda2) file-system and recreating it, reinstalling the kernels and intrds and grub
[08:46] <Syncazor> cfhowlett: but it's inside the ubuntu iso?
[08:46] <musclez> http://pastebin.com/s7uhx7ui
[08:46] <lotuspsychje> Syncazor: maybe you should format your usb stick before making the bootable
[08:46] <EriC^^> TJ-: ok
[08:46] <cfhowlett> !install | Syncazor,
[08:47] <musclez> yessss tj- i want to do that.. thats what ive wanted to do
[08:47] <musclez> will that jeopardize my data on the other partitions?
[08:47] <Syncazor> So how do I install ubuntu 14.04 with usb without wubi for blank HDD
[08:48] <EriC^^> Syncazor: which os are you using to make the usb?
[08:48] <cfhowlett> Syncazor, make a proper install CD or USB> boot CD/USB and install to HDD
[08:48] <Syncazor> EriC^^: windows
[08:48] <EriC^^> Syncazor: use linux live usb creator
[08:48] <MonkeyDust> Syncazor windows has YUMI
[08:49] <MonkeyDust> Syncazor http://www.pendrivelinux.com/yumi-multiboot-usb-creator/
[08:51] <EriC^^> musclez: no, it wont
[08:53] <Syncazor> I crashed
[08:53] <Syncazor> Did anyone answer my question?
[08:53] <musclez> i know kernel 3.16.0.40 was the last oen working. .43 was what was being upgraded to wheni was running out of room on my /boot and tried to make space
[08:53] <EriC^^> musclez: ok
[08:54] <EriC^^> type sudo cgdisk /dev/sda
[08:54] <Syncazor> How do I remove wubi from ubuntu 14.04.iso
[08:54] <cfhowlett> Syncazor, no need to remove it from the iso. just don't use it!
[08:55] <Syncazor> cfhowlett: Isn't it automatically used when you boot with it?
[08:55] <cfhowlett> Syncazor, again: ONLY If you use windows. ONLY.
[08:55] <EriC^^> musclez: or nevermind, just type sudo mkfs -t ext4 /dev/sda2
[08:55] <MonkeyDust> Syncazor no, wubi is a windows program
[08:56] <Syncazor> cfhowlett: So if I boot off my usb on the blank hdd it wont use wubi. :O :D
[08:56] <EriC^^> musclez: sorry sudo mkfs -t ext2 /dev/sda2
[08:56] <cfhowlett> Syncazor, correct
[08:57] <lotuspsychje> i wonder why they still put wubi in 14.04 iso...
[08:57] <cfhowlett> dracula syndrome.
[08:58] <Syncazor> cfhowlett: I'm having a problem, when i boot off the usb, I get a black screen with a blinking '_'
[08:58] <cfhowlett> Syncazor, DID you md5sum the .iso and the USB?
[08:58] <cfhowlett> because a corrupted usb would do what you describe
[08:59] <musclez> eric^^ http://pastebin.com/wzwj3cth
[08:59] <lotuspsychje> maybe he's got a virus on his autoruninf and infected wubi.exe lol
[09:00] <Syncazor> cfhowlett: The ISO has the same hash
[09:00] <cfhowlett> Syncazor, and the usb??
[09:00] <cfhowlett> !md5sum | Syncazor
[09:00] <EriC^^> Syncazor: did you try nomodeset?
[09:00] <Syncazor> cfhowlett: I can't check the usb, since it's not a file
[09:00] <Syncazor> EriC^^: How do I do that?
[09:00] <EriC^^> musclez: for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[09:01] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset | Syncazor
[09:01] <Syncazor> I see the keyboard = person in circle then the continuous '_'
[09:01] <cfhowlett> Syncazor, yes you CAN verify the USB. read the md5sum wiki and replace the CD references/addresses with the USB
[09:02] <EriC^^> Syncazor: hold shift while the pc boots, and when you get grub, press e over try ubuntu, then in the line that says linux /vmlinuz ...... add nomodeset after quiet splash, then press ctrl+x
[09:02] <musclez> eric^^ mounted
[09:02] <EriC^^> musclez: sudo chroot /mnt
[09:02] <colbyf> anyone a program for editing PDFs
[09:03] <MonkeyDust> !pdf
[09:03] <musclez> rooted
[09:03] <lotuspsychje> colbyf: there are also handy free pdf editors online you can use
[09:03] <colbyf> don't see an editor in that,
[09:04] <MonkeyDust> colbyf i guess inkscape can edit pdf
[09:04] <Syncazor> EriC^^: I pressed shift, selected English then pressed F6 and selected nomodeset, and i still get the black screen with the _
[09:04] <colbyf> I will give it a go :)
[09:04] <lotuspsychje> Syncazor: did you disable fastboot + secureboot in bios?
[09:04] <rabiul> use foxit reader on wine
[09:04] <EriC^^> Syncazor: which laptop are you using?
[09:04] <EriC^^> maybe you need to use a special kernel parameter
[09:05] <Syncazor> lotuspsychje: No, I'll try that
[09:05] <EriC^^> musclez: blkid | nc termbin.com 9999
[09:05] <Syncazor> EriC^^: I'm on a desktop
[09:05] <musclez> http://termbin.com/16w8
[09:07] <Syncazor> OOooh nomodeset is working
[09:07] <Syncazor> Ill give it a few minutes
[09:07] <cfhowlett> !cookie | EriC^^
[09:07] <EriC^^> musclez: type nano /etc/fstab , replace the UUID of /boot with 4da5596e-fd8b-4738-bbf5-56d2c2705ef1
[09:07] <EriC^^> musclez: it's the one from blkid
[09:08] <Syncazor> EriC^^: It's stuck at [ 0.296609] Trying to unpack rootfs images as initramfs...
[09:08] <Syncazor> Is that normal?
[09:09] <cfhowlett> Syncazor, how old is this box?
[09:10] <musclez> eric^^ edited
[09:10] <Syncazor> 4 years cfhowlett
[09:10] <EriC^^> musclez: ok, type mv /var/lib/dpkg/statoverride{,.old}
[09:11] <EriC^^> musclez: we'll deal with it later, but we need to remove that so dpkg will work for now
[09:11] <musclez> moved
[09:12] <EriC^^> musclez: ok, type mkdir /boot/efi
[09:12] <Syncazor> cfhowlett: my pc has 3gb of ram
[09:12] <musclez> madew
[09:12] <musclez> made*
[09:12] <EriC^^> musclez: type dpkg --configure -a
[09:12] <cfhowlett> Syncazor, doable but ubuntu with unity is a hungry beast. I suggest xubuntu or lubuntu as they are less demanding
[09:13] <musclez> seems to have worked
[09:13] <EriC^^> musclez: apt-get -f install
[09:13] <Syncazor> cfhowlett: I'm on 14.04, how much do i need?
[09:13] <musclez> done done didnt ctash
[09:13] <musclez> crash**
[09:13] <cfhowlett> !requirements | Syncazor see for yself
[09:14] <EriC^^> musclez: apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-generic
[09:15] <musclez> seemed to have worked
[09:15] <Syncazor> cfhowlett: I have requirements?
[09:16] <EriC^^> musclez: apt-get install --reinstall grub-efi-amd64 grub-efi-amd64-bin grub-common
[09:17] <Syncazor> cfhowlett: I have above the minimum requirements
[09:17] <musclez> pastebin.com/jdrsngxl
[09:17] <cfhowlett> Syncazor, noted. I didn't say ubuntu would NOT run, I suggested it would run faster with a lighter load.
[09:17] <musclez> http://pastebin.com/jdrsngxl
[09:18] <cfhowlett> thus xubuntu / lubuntu
[09:18] <ikonia> musclez: what are you doing ?
[09:18] <ikonia> this looks like another chroot mess
[09:18] <Syncazor> cfhowlett:, doesn't really worry me. But what can I do to stop it from being stuck on [ 0.296609] Trying to unpack rootfs images as initramfs...
[09:18] <lotuspsychje> Syncazor: its worth a try, to see if you can bypass that error
[09:18] <ikonia> musclez: please tell me you are still not trying to do this in a chroot
[09:19] <Syncazor> lotuspsychje: how
[09:19] <EriC^^> musclez: apt-get install --reinstall grub2-common
[09:19] <cfhowlett> Syncazor, someone suggested a boot kernel option. sadly, I've no idea which one you might need. sorry. ask again in channel.
[09:19] <lotuspsychje> Syncazor: make lubuntu stick just same way you did with ubuntu iso
[09:20] <lotuspsychje> Syncazor: maybe LTS?
[09:20] <Syncazor> lotuspsychje: but why cant I have ubuntu?
[09:20] <musclez> "man" does not exist, like in the past i sent previously
[09:20] <lotuspsychje> Syncazor: you can, but we have to investigate why your getting that error first
[09:20] <ikonia> musclez: are you doing this in a chroot
[09:20] <Syncazor> During my installation, it's stuck on [ 0.296609] Trying to unpack rootfs images as initramfs... How could I fix this issue?
[09:21] <Syncazor> Well do you want me to post more lines on pastebin.com?
[09:21] <musclez> http://pastebin.com/ysffsxti
[09:21] <ikonia> musclez: are you doing this in a chroot
[09:22] <EriC^^> musclez: ok,
[09:22] <EriC^^> musclez: try update-grub
[09:22] <Guest39529> кто пишит на русс
[09:22] <lotuspsychje> !ru | Guest39529
[09:23] <Syncazor> My FULL error, how do I fix it? http://prntscr.com/ 7lwdzn
[09:23] <lotuspsychje> Syncazor: wich iso did you make on your stick now?
[09:23] <Syncazor> My FULL error, how do I fix it? http://prntscr.com/7lwdzn
[09:23] <TJ-> EriC^^: unless I missed something it may need a 'grub-install' since the modules need reinstalling in /boot/grub/
[09:24] <musclez> http://pastebin.com/lfdjnevv
[09:24] <ikonia> TJ-: I don't believe you've been told the full story of this mess
[09:24] <EriC^^> TJ-: doesn't apt-get install --reinstall run grub-install at the end?
[09:24] <ikonia> which is why I keep asking if this is being done within a chroot
[09:24] <ikonia> as this was a real mess yesterday and it looks like it's continued on from there
[09:24] <EriC^^> nevermind, doesn't appear to have ran
[09:24] <TJ-> ikonia: I'm fully aware, we're just completing a rebuild of the /boot/ file-system which was corrupt
[09:24] <EriC^^> musclez: run grub-install first
[09:25] <ikonia> corrupted ?
[09:25] <musclez> cannot find efi directory
[09:25] <EriC^^> musclez: oh my bad
[09:25] <TJ-> ikonia: see http://pastebin.com/s7uhx7ui
[09:25] <EriC^^> musclez: type sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/boot/efi
[09:26] <ikonia> TJ-: what about the bit where random files have been removed from his system to "clean up"
[09:26] <ikonia> and the miss-match of packages
[09:26] <ikonia> have you got that all sorted ?
[09:26] <TJ-> ikonia: We've dealt with all the symptoms we've seen
[09:26] <ikonia> eoe, very nice
[09:26] <ikonia> wow even
[09:27] <musclez> unable to resolve host lubuntu mount: mounting /dev/sda1 on /mnt/boot/efi failed: no such file or directory
[09:27] <TJ-> 'eoe' sounds like how a cat says 'wow' :)
[09:27] <EriC^^> musclez: sorry, mount /dev/sda1 /boot/efi
[09:27] <TJ-> musclez: EriC^^ maybe "mkdir -p /boot/efi/" ?
[09:28] <EriC^^> TJ-: yeah we created it
[09:28] <musclez> unable to resolve host lubuntu
[09:28] <EriC^^> that's ok
[09:28] <TJ-> EriC^^: OK, I missed some since I've been doing some kernel patching
[09:28] <musclez> yeah i havent crashed since u left really
[09:28] <musclez> so some serious progress tbh
[09:29] <TJ-> musclez: don't tempt fate :p
[09:29] <EriC^^> :D
[09:29] <musclez> ive been trying not to i hope i didnt just f up
[09:29] <EriC^^> musclez: try grub-install
[09:30] <Syncazor> My FULL error, how do I fix it? http://prntscr.com/7lwdzn
[09:30] <musclez> http://pastebin.com/zmyszpfh
[09:31] <EriC^^> musclez: cat /etc/fstab | nc termbin.com 9999
[09:31] <EriC^^> that happens if you have /boot in the encrypted partition
[09:32] <musclez> http://termbin.com/ijhb
[09:32] <Syncazor> EriC^^: `any idea?
[09:33] <EriC^^> musclez: did we mount /boot ?
[09:33] <EriC^^> musclez: type mount | nc termbin.com 9999
[09:34] <musclez> htpp://termbin.com/mnvv
[09:34] <musclez> http://termbin.com/mnvv
[09:34] <EriC^^> musclez: ok, type umount /boot/efi
[09:34] <EriC^^> then type mount -a
[09:35] <kvadratrot> I have trouble booting off my usb .iso image of 15.04. Could I talk to someone?
[09:35] <TJ-> EriC^^: there may be files in /boot/ ... best to remove them before mounting sda2
[09:35] <EriC^^> musclez: actually hold on
[09:35] <EriC^^> yeah
[09:35] <EriC^^> musclez: after you type umount /boot/efi, type rm -r /boot
[09:35] <lotuspsychje> !usb | kvadratrot
[09:35] <EriC^^> then type mkdir -p /boot/efi
[09:36] <TJ-> EriC^^: there needs to be a 'mount' in there, first :)
[09:36] <musclez> done
[09:36] <EriC^^> TJ-: right
[09:36] <EriC^^> dang
[09:36] * TJ- giggles
[09:36] <EriC^^> musclez: type rm -r /boot/efi
[09:36] * TJ- blames ikonia :)
[09:37] <musclez> http://pastebin.com/e27vwjin
[09:38] <musclez> past few commands i think im getting mixed up
[09:38] <TJ-> musclez: "type" is an instruction to you, not a command for the PC
[09:38] <kvadratrot> lotuspsychje: I'm avid Ubuntu user and have installed the system before. But today I come in a different angle, my graphic card, at least known so far to me through googeling isnt supported with the out of the box ubuntu drives. I have to download them via ppa when inside. So when I run my usb-drive i get asked to install or run wihtout install but when i do it tries to boot in but when x is...
[09:38] <kvadratrot> ...run it black screens on me. /what do?
[09:39] <kvadratrot> ie im running nvidia 352 currently
[09:39] <cfhowlett> kvadratrot, nomodeset to get a live system then do the installation???
[09:39] <Syncazor> My error: http://prntscr.com/7lwhuz
[09:40] <musclez> tj- lets leave the semantic debate to after i get some sleep
[09:40] <Syncazor> can anyone help me?
[09:41] <ihaveaproblem> hey folks. My filesystem is suddenly read-only. dmesg says this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11782690
[09:41] <TJ-> musclez: where are you at now?
[09:41] <kvadratrot> cfhowlett: *halleluja* then i just add that to the options for install/withoutinstall? both should work?
[09:41] <musclez> that paste bin i jsut sent
[09:41] <ihaveaproblem> When I run sudo fsck -Af -M, I get no error output. Does that mean it's not a harddrive issue?
[09:41] <TJ-> musclez: with the 'not found' errors?
[09:41] <musclez> yes
[09:42] <Syncazor> Why wont anyone answer me?
[09:42] <cfhowlett> kvadratrot, nomodeset is a temporary solution allowing you to boot a system with only partially configured graphics. You'll still need to set up graphics
[09:42] <cfhowlett> !patience | Syncazor
[09:42] <TJ-> musclez: OK, let's try again. "umount /boot/efi /boot"
[09:43] <TJ-> musclez: "rm -r /boot/
[09:43] <kvadratrot> cfhowlett: Yeah, I quick googled what "nomodeset" was when you typed. My returing question to you was how I entered it in in grub "-nomodeset" ?
[09:43] <TJ-> musclez: "mount -a"
[09:43] <musclez> both not mounted
[09:43] <kvadratrot> cfhowlett: also u r my hero
[09:43] <EriC^^> TJ-: doesn't he need a mkdir /boot before?
[09:43] <TJ-> musclez: That's fine; I was being careful
[09:43] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset | kvadratrot, gotta read the wiki amigo. instructions are there.
[09:44] <musclez> no such file or directory fo rthe UUIDs
[09:44] <TJ-> EriC^^: musclez I thought we have a /boot/ since "mkdir -p /boot/efi"
[09:44] <TJ-> musclez: "ls /boot/" - do you get a listing or an error?
[09:45] <EriC^^> he ran rm -r /boot though
[09:45] <musclez> yeah tj i think ur confuisign some stuff here
[09:45] <Syncazor> My FULL error, how do I fix it? http://prntscr.com/7lwdzn
[09:46] <TJ-> EriC^^: From the pastebin musclez was prefixing several commands with "type " which caused "not found" errors; the last command before that happened was "mkdir -p /boot/efi"
[09:46] <TJ-> musclez: In case it is missing, do "mkdir /boot"
[09:46] <musclez> i dint type that in.. i was teh readout
[09:46] <musclez> fyi
[09:47] <TJ-> musclez: then do "mount -a"
[09:47] <musclez> im not sure what i shodl be doing knwo cuz ur both telling me two differnt things
[09:47] <TJ-> musclez: In case it is missing, do "mkdir /boot"
[09:47] <EriC^^> nah we're on the same page i think
[09:47] <TJ-> musclez: then do "mount -a"
[09:48] <musclez> no such file or diretory
[09:48] <musclez> we jsut did that liek 3 times
[09:48] <EriC^^> ok hold on
[09:48] <EriC^^> did you run mkdir /boot ?
[09:48] <musclez> yeah
[09:48] <TJ-> musclez: was that "mount: mounting UUID=4da5596e-fd8b-4738-bbf5-56d2c2705ef1 on /boot failed: No such file or directory" ?
[09:48] <EriC^^> we need to do it in steps cause /boot is empty
[09:48] <musclez> yes tj
[09:48] <EriC^^> musclez: mount /dev/sda2 /boot
[09:49] <EriC^^> musclez: /boot or /boot/efi ?
[09:49] <TJ-> musclez: It could have been "mount: mounting UUID=DEE2-1CC0 on /boot/efi failed: No such file or directory"
[09:49] <musclez> ... /boot failed : device or resouce busy
[09:50] <TJ-> musclez: can you pastebin "mount" for us?
[09:51] <musclez> http://pastebin.com/87ptfaup
[09:53] <Ruedii> Hello, I'm having trouble getting Steam to work with Open Source drivers in Ubuntu 15.04
[09:53] <TJ-> musclez: something weird there, we need to see the output of "mount"
[09:55] <musclez> i dont knwo what i should type
[09:55] <ikonia> mount
[09:56] <musclez> pastebin.com/m65fctv
[09:57] <TJ-> musclez: whatever I show inside double-quotes: "mount" ... FYI you can automate capture to pastebin using "pastebinit <(the command here)" if the PC has a network connection
[09:57] <Capprentice> How do I implement port mirroring in Ubuntu Server 12.04 ? I want mirror port 1337 to ip : 10.10.11.15! how do I do it?
[09:58] <TJ-> musclez: that was an incorrect URL; did you make a typo in it?
[09:58] <musclez> http-++
[09:58] <musclez> http://pastebin.com/m65fctv7
[09:58] <TJ-> Thanks ... the 7 was missing in the earlier URL
[10:00] <TJ-> musclez: "ls -ld /boot" - should give you something like: "drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 7168 Jun 27 09:33 /boot" - if not, try "mkdir /boot" and then check it exists again
[10:00] <musclez> yup
[10:00] <musclez> it gave me that output
[10:00] <TJ-> musclez: Good :) now "mount /boot"
[10:01] <musclez> no such
[10:01] <EriC^^> try mount /dev/sda2 /boot
[10:02] <musclez> worked
[10:02] <TJ-> EriC^^: musclez: I think there's a syntax error in "/etc/fstab" from the earlier UUID editing
[10:02] <EriC^^> musclez: mkdir /boot/efi
[10:02] <TJ-> musclez: can you pastebin the "/etc/fstab" file ?
[10:03] <musclez> yes
[10:03] <EriC^^> TJ-: termbin.com/ijhb 4da5596e-fd8b-4738-bbf5-56d2c2705ef1
[10:03] <EriC^^> sorry http://termbin.com/ijhb
[10:03] <musclez> pastebin/comipg7bxgq
[10:03] <TJ-> EriC^^: Yes, but it may have changed since, I want to see what mount is tripping over now
[10:04] <musclez> mkdir boot/efi worked btw
[10:04] <EriC^^> musclez: ok, mount /dev/sda1 /boot/efi
[10:04] <musclez> ok
[10:04] <musclez> eric^^'s methods are working
[10:04] <TJ-> musclez: That pastebin URL is bad again "paste has been removed"
[10:05] <EriC^^> musclez: apt-get install --reinstall grub-efi-amd64-bin grub-efi-amd64 grub-common grub2-common
[10:05] <EriC^^> musclez: it's the same method
[10:05] <musclez> pastebin.com/ipg7bxgq
[10:05] <xyzzy__> hey guys. Does pidgin not work with facebook chat anymore? Haven't used it in a long while
[10:05] <TJ-> musclez: I know, but if fstab is broken the automated mounts will fail as they are doing for us, so that needs fixing
[10:06] <musclez> ionstallation finished
[10:06] <musclez> no error reported WHAAAAAA
[10:06] <nigga_> hello
[10:06] <TJ-> musclez: right, but we need to sort out the fstab issue else mount will fail
[10:07] <EriC^^> musclez: grub-install
[10:07] <EriC^^> musclez: then update-grub
[10:07] <musclez> done
[10:07] <TJ-> musclez: then please pastebin the output of "blkid"
[10:08] <Ruedii> Hmm, since nobody knows how to fix the steam runtime to properly detect the 15.04 OpenGL stack. Could someone point me to the instructions on how to downgrade my distro to 14.04, which I know would work?
[10:08] <ikonia> you can't downgrade
[10:08] <ikonia> you need to re-install
[10:08] <musclez> ubfib77w
[10:08] <cfhowlett> Ruedii, no "downgrade". clean install
[10:08] <MonkeyDust> Ruedii backup and fresh install 14.04
[10:09] <MonkeyDust> cfhowlett was faster
[10:09] <ice9> any suggestions for network mapping/modelling application?
[10:09] <cfhowlett> MonkeyDust, hey, I've had a hard day. ye ole fingers just don't fly like they used to.
[10:09] <EriC^^> musclez: what about cat /etc/fstab | nc termbin.com 9999
[10:10] <musclez> http://termbin.com/hz6o
[10:11] <TJ-> EriC^^: musclez I'm not seeing anything obviously wrong; the UUID is correct, no typos, wondering about whitespace issues but can't see any
[10:12] <TJ-> musclez: let's find out if its fixed itself. Do "umount /boot/efi /boot" then try automounting them again with "mount -a"
[10:13] <musclez> no such
[10:13] <cq-aux> hi I'm having trouble changing my mac address, I keep losing the privileges or something every couple of days
[10:13] <ikonia> cq-aux: you don't change your mac address
[10:13] <ikonia> you should not be doing that
[10:13] <Ruedii> ice9, do you mean automatic or just to create the images. If you aren't automatically generating it from a dataset, I recommend just using a flowchart application. There is no need for a one trick pony for that.
[10:13] <TJ-> musclez: OK, so we need to figure this out before the system can reboot.
[10:13] <cq-aux> spoof spoof spoof
[10:13] <ikonia> cq-aux: no no no
[10:14] <cq-aux> I'm changing it for the session dude. with macchanger
[10:14] <ikonia> you shouldn't need to change it
[10:14] <musclez> why did we change uuids
[10:14] <cq-aux> I've also tried sudo ifconfig wlan0 hw ether xx:xx:xx:xx:xx this time and I can't change it that way either
[10:15] <ikonia> you can't change it that way
[10:15] <ikonia> you should not be changing your mac
[10:15] <TJ-> musclez: because we created a new file-system in /dev/sda2 and it has a new UUID
[10:15] <TJ-> musclez: Can you "hexdump -C /etc/fstab | nc termbin.com 9999"
[10:15] <EriC^^> musclez: did update-grub work?
[10:15] <musclez> yeah it did from before
[10:15] <EriC^^> grub-install or update-grub?
[10:16] <cq-aux> I had the same problem with macchanger before and I fixed it by bringing down wlan0 first and then stopping network-manager but it's not working this time
[10:16] <musclez> both
[10:16] <EriC^^> cool so it just picked up the kernel and initrd and stopped?
[10:16] <ikonia> cq-aux: you should not be changing your mac
[10:16] <cq-aux> ikonia: yes I should
[10:16] <cq-aux> ikonia: it's only temporary, it's only til the the next reboot
[10:16] <ikonia> not sure why that matters
[10:17] <musclez> i see "adding boot menu entry to EFI firmware config..."
[10:17] <musclez> done
[10:17] <musclez> no specifc image information
[10:17] <EriC^^> musclez: no 3.13 ... found?
[10:17] <musclez> negative
[10:17] <EriC^^> mount /dev/sda2 /boot
[10:17] <TJ-> EriC^^: That's because we haven't installed the kernels yet... I wanted to fix this fstab issue first
[10:17] <musclez> done
[10:18] <EriC^^> ohh right
[10:18] <musclez> rgr that ok
[10:18] <EriC^^> forgot we unmounted and cleaned it and stuff
[10:19] <TJ-> musclez: Can you "hexdump -C /etc/fstab | nc termbin.com 9999"
[10:19] <cq-aux> ikonia: I don't know how where to go from here, I can change the first 6 hex digits of my mac but I'm fearing that that will get me busted
[10:19] <ikonia> "get you busted" ?
[10:19] <TJ-> musclez: this will let us see if there are any 'bad' bytes in fstab
[10:19] <cq-aux> (I'm just using the public wifi to its limit over and over)
[10:19] <ikonia> cq-aux: we are not going to help you break TOC
[10:19] <musclez> termbin.com/oymh
[10:19] <ikonia> please don't ask again
[10:20] <cq-aux> oh ok, coolies
[10:22] <TJ-> musclez: EriC^^ I'm not seeing any weird ASCII/UTF-8 codes there
[10:22] <EriC^^> that's odd
[10:23] <kvadratrot> cfhowlett: yes sire. *over and out*
[10:23] <EriC^^> let's see something
[10:23] <EriC^^> musclez: try mount -a right now
[10:23] <EriC^^> since just /boot is mounted and /boot/efi isn't
[10:23] <musclez> no such
[10:24] <musclez> hmm im in root
[10:24] <musclez> am i supposr to not be in chroot
[10:24] <EriC^^> that's ok, no
[10:24] <TJ-> musclez: This is all to do in the chroot
[10:24] <musclez> kk
[10:25] <eraggo> About ubuntuforums: how do i get access on my OWN profile? vBulletin says that i have no access to my own profile
[10:25] <EriC^^> musclez: let's install the kernels
[10:25] <musclez> 160.0.40?
[10:25] <EriC^^> musclez: mount /dev/sda1 /boot/efi
[10:25] <EriC^^> musclez: the latest one for your ubuntu version
[10:26] <musclez> i think its 3.16.0.43
[10:27] <EriC^^> musclez: ok, mounted?
[10:27] <eraggo> more closely about forum: my settings for editing my profile
[10:27] <musclez> sorry , yes
[10:27] <eraggo> never mind
[10:28] <EriC^^> musclez: ok, apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-generic
[10:28] <musclez> linux image generic is already the newest version
[10:29] <EriC^^> did you type --reinstall ?
[10:29] <musclez> my bad
[10:29] <musclez> boom
[10:29] <musclez> crash
[10:29] <EriC^^> what did it say?
[10:30] <MonkeyDust> musclez what happened, to make your problem so complicated?
[10:30] <TJ-> MonkeyDust: file-system corruption
[10:32] <musclez> sorry, d/c'd
[10:32] <TJ-> musclez: EriC^^: !!!DING!!!! - I suspect the /dev/disk/by-uuid/ link is missing!
[10:32] <Kopre> Hi everybody. Security question: Makes it sense to make a DMZ at home if you want to host your website by yourself?
[10:32] <EriC^^> TJ-: ok, cool
[10:32] <EriC^^> makes sense
[10:33] <TJ-> EriC^^: You best carry on where you left off, we can investigate that later
[10:33] <musclez> booking back into boot-repair disk
[10:33] <Kopre> EriC^^: Do you know a device (router) that suits?
[10:34] <EriC^^> not to be a party pooper, but musclez can you easily backup and fresh install?
[10:34] <musclez> not really
[10:34] <EriC^^> ok
[10:34] <EriC^^> musclez: sudo cryptsetup ...
[10:35] <musclez> give me a secong the efi keeps crashing
[10:35] <TJ-> musclez: What does "keeps crashing" mean?
[10:35] <musclez> uefi boot disk
[10:35] <EriC^^> TJ-: should he do the memtest?
[10:35] <cfhowlett> Kopre, perhaps a good query for #hardware
[10:35] <musclez> i dont think i have it yet do i?
[10:35] <TJ-> musclez: Like I said before, if there's a general problem with corruption then that needs to be identified and fixed first, else everythin we're doing now could be wasted
[10:36] <TJ-> musclez: how, precisely, does it crash? How far does the boot get, what do you see?
[10:36] <musclez> it waries
[10:37] <musclez> varies, soemtiems i get to desktop.. soemtiems not evn the loading screen
[10:37] <musclez> this time it was "si_disable_ulv failed"
[10:37] <musclez> kernel panic
[10:38] <musclez> im back on
[10:39] <musclez> sudo cryptsetup done
[10:40] <EriC^^> musclez: ok, sudo mount /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root /mnt
[10:41] <musclez> done
[10:41] <EriC^^> musclez: for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[10:42] <musclez> done
[10:42] <TJ-> musclez: stop here for a moment
[10:42] <musclez> no problem :P
[10:42] <TJ-> musclez: can you pastebin the output of "ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/"
[10:43] <musclez> yeah 1sec
[10:44] <musclez> http://termbin.com/m380
[10:45] <TJ-> musclez: EriC^^ "si_disable_ulv failed" comes from the radeon GPU driver's si_dpm_set_power_state() method. I'm not clear right now if it is vital at this stage, but I think if it is related to the crashing issues then it may indicate the system firmware setup power management, or else linux <>ACPI issues
[10:45] <TJ-> musclez: Well there's the problem for the mount - there's no UUID link been created for the file-system in /dev/sda2
[10:45] <musclez> hmmm i had custome drivers from amd installed for a moment.. and then i noticed the had dissapered
[10:46] <TJ-> musclez: sorry, ignore me, I'm blind! It's there :)
[10:47] <TJ-> musclez: EriC^^: OK, you guys carry on building the chroot and try using "mount -a" inside it to get /boot/efi/ ready
[10:47] <EriC^^> musclez: sudo chroot /mnt
[10:48] <musclez> no such for mount -a
[10:48] <ikonia> this all seems very drawn out, would it not be wiser to just backup the data and re-install ?
[10:48] <EriC^^> musclez: ok, mount /dev/sda2 /boot
[10:48] <musclez> done
[10:49] <EriC^^> musclez: mount /dev/sda1 /boot/efi
[10:49] <n8`7ewb_er^t\5^7> Stop lawyyer boyer boyer boyer and you know its football is a futball game. Nothing but thing but the Jaguars, Cornbucklers. Buck cornhusk. Husk Husk, cornbuck buckers, Cornbuck cornbucklers. Rum-dum-dum-dum-dum-dum-football is they go bored, makes me say oh my lord, what football.
[10:49] <n8`7ewb_er^t\5^7> what are some good ways to do SOME FUCKIN SCREAMIN!
[10:49] <n8`7ewb_er^t\5^7> Nothing but the world cares about a group of the football is the worst sport events on television. College football game, it's no lie it's a football game! It's a football. No one in most people are runna ma naes. It is on television.
[10:49] <musclez> done
[10:49] <n8`7ewb_er^t\5^7> game! It sucks ten regular football game, so bored, makes me, so bored, makes me, it's about football.
[10:49] <EriC^^> musclez: are you using 14.10?
[10:49] <musclez> no, should be 14.04
[10:50] <musclez> howver there was something that lead up to this with a 14.10 header
[10:50] <maxvi> hi everyone! I installed ubuntu 15.04 on my asus eeePc 1001pxd. and sound don't work but sound woorks when I use headphones.
[10:50] <musclez> i believe
[10:50] <EriC^^> musclez: ok, type cat /etc/issue to make sure
[10:51] <musclez> 14.04.02 lts \n \l
[10:52] <ashmew2> maxvi, make sure your speakers arent muted from the volume settings (or alsamixer)
[10:53] <Guest34161> hi
[10:53] <EriC^^> musclez: apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-3.13.0-55-generic
[10:54] <Guest34161> lame
[10:55] <Guest34161> bay
[10:55] <heikki_> Hello. I need to debug my server, how can i see what program is sending mail using my postfix from localhost
[10:55] <ikonia> ?
[10:55] <musclez> seems stuck on "upacking linux-image-3.13.0-55-generic"
[10:55] <cfhowlett> !server | heikki_
[10:55] <ikonia> heikki_: the mail logs will show you the user connecting
[10:55] <ikonia> from that you can work out what app is calling it
[10:55] <heikki_> i already know the user
[10:56] <heikki_> i have mysql database for users
[10:56] <ikonia> so whats the problem then ?
[10:57] <heikki_> i need to know what is the real program / script sending the mail
[10:57] <ikonia> the mail logs should give you a clue as to what's been called
[10:57] <ikonia> as mysql users are unlikley to be system users, it must be some app (I'd assume a web app) that the user can access
[10:57] <musclez> yeah it froze on that
[10:58] <heikki_> yea, but i cannot find the app.
[10:59] <ikonia> heikki_: what have you done to try and trace it ?
[10:59] <heikki_> nothing really, because tracing mail sender programs is a new area for me
[11:00] <ikonia> ok - so I've just told you how to start
[11:00] <heikki_> i just know that the log says something about postfix/qmgr
[11:00] <ikonia> postfix is hte name of the account running the mail server, you need the other details
[11:01] <heikki_> i know what is postfix, and i think i know what qmgr is
[11:02] <ikonia> then why are you struggling ?
[11:03] <ikonia> when I give you guidence you keep saying "I know"
[11:03] <Preston> Hello, I am trying to build PythonQt libraries, but after I run make, I get error -> ... fatal error: qgl.h: No such file or directory #include <qgl.h> . I have OpenGL installed.
[11:03] <ikonia> but you don't know how to take it forward
[11:03] <heikki_> yes
[11:04] <heikki_> ok, as an example, if i have a line like this: Jun 27 13:53:19 servername postfix/qmgr[3225]: 14D6F2AA66: from=<email@hidden>, size=897660, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
[11:04] <ikonia> "why are you struggling" ??? the answer is not "yes"
[11:04] <heikki_> :)
[11:05] <ikonia> is this your server ?
[11:05] <heikki_> yes
[11:05] <ikonia> as in did you set it up / do you manage it ?
[11:05] <Preston> Can anybody help?
[11:05] <heikki_> yes / yes
[11:05] <ikonia> ok - so is the mail server set to auth before relay ?
[11:06] <heikki_> if you mean open relay, only localhost is allowed to relay without auth
[11:06] <ikonia> no, I don't mean open realy
[11:06] <heikki_> ok
[11:06] <ikonia> I mean exactly what i've said, is it set to auth before relay
[11:07] <qwd> I once had a bash script that would open all kinds of files from the terminal, just as if it had been opened from nautilus, with the command "open". Does this sound familiar to anyone?
[11:07] <heikki_> then i don't understan your question
[11:08] <ikonia> is your mail server set to auth before relay
[11:08] <heikki_> how do i see if it is set to auth before relay
[11:08] <ikonia> you set it up
[11:08] <ikonia> you should know
[11:08] <ikonia> thats why I asked "did you set this up"
[11:08] <heikki_> yes, i set it up long time ago
[11:08] <ikonia> ok - so check your mail config
[11:08] <heikki_> :)
[11:09] <MonkeyDust> qwd try xdg-open
[11:12] <heikki_> ikonia: so what should i check from the log file?
[11:12] <heikki_> i mean conf
[11:13] <heikki_> it has sasl auth
[11:13] <ikonia> if your server is set to auth before relay
[11:14] <heikki_> ikonia: my config file is in the postfix format, not in plain english
[11:15] <ikonia> postfix is plain english format file
[11:15] <heikki_> :D
[11:15] <heikki_> as i told, it requires auth before relay from hosts other than localhost
[11:15] <heikki_> you confuse me :)
[11:15] <qwd> MonkeyDust: Thanks!
[11:16] <maxvi> ashmew2: I set headphones volume to 100 and now sound works but after
[11:16] <maxvi> reload I need to the same again and again.
[11:16] <ikonia> heikki_: you did not tell me that
[11:16] <ikonia> you just asked if I meant an open relay
[11:16] <ikonia> heikki_: what is your postfix host authing the users/password against
[11:17] <heikki_> in mysql there is a database table of encrypted passwords
[11:18] <ikonia> heikki_: do those users have any access to the system or are they just email users
[11:18] <heikki_> just email users, no other access
[11:18] <ikonia> ok - so if they can't access the system it must be through some web app
[11:18] <heikki_> yes
[11:18] <ikonia> so look in the web root see references to the mail system
[11:19] <heikki_> there are thousands of that kind of references
[11:19] <ikonia> thousands ?
[11:19] <ikonia> how many web sites are on this server ?
[11:19] <heikki_> well, ok, hundreds
[11:20] <heikki_> depends on what you mean by a site. Lots of vhosts
[11:20] <ikonia> define lots
[11:20] <heikki_> :) Where do you need the exact number?
[11:21] <EriC^^> musclez: any progress?
[11:21] <musclez> nah it froze when i tried to run that isntall
[11:21] <ikonia> heikki_: you don't want to answer my questions, fine, good luck sorting it out
[11:21] <ikonia> sounds like you have no idea what is on your system or how it's setup, so you're at risk
[11:21] <heikki_> it is a trade secret
[11:21] <ikonia> then you should be able to manage a server,
[11:22] <heikki_> i know i am at risk, and that's why i am trying to learn something right now, and you seem very helpful...
[11:22] <EriC^^> musclez: ok, type mv /var/lib/dpkg/statoverride{.old,}
[11:22] <thenewone> Hi guys
[11:22] <thenewone> guys how to show the number of process are runing rightnow ?
[11:22] <ikonia> thenewone: ps -ef | wc -l
[11:22] <musclez> under chroot?
[11:22] <EriC^^> musclez: yeah
[11:22] <heikki_> ikonia: i am not the only one who has access to the server, and i am not the only one making web pages here, so that's the reason i cannot know everything
[11:23] <ikonia> heikki_: I'm not interested
[11:23] <jrtappers> Is there a way to get headphones detected in pulse "system mode"?
[11:23] <musclez> missing desination file
[11:23] <musclez> for mv
[11:23] <EriC^^> musclez: did you put the "," at the end before } ?
[11:24] <EriC^^> musclez: ah nevermind
[11:24] <musclez> rgr it workd that way i idnt see
[11:24] <EriC^^> musclez: ok, type mv /var/lib/dpkg/statoverride.old /var/lib/dpkg/statoverride
[11:24] <EriC^^> oh ok
[11:24] <EriC^^> right
[11:24] <heikki_> ikonia: do you run a server?
[11:24] <qwd> When I open something from the terminal with xdg-open or gvfs-open the terminal is not usable and I have to do ctrl+c to close the running program. How can I make it run in the background instead? Adding "&" at the end doesn't help.
[11:24] <thenewone> ikonia, thanks alot
[11:26] <thenewone> how to know the last users are connected to linux ?
[11:26] <jatt> last
[11:26] <thenewone> not the last just in last hour
[11:26] <ikonia> last and then look at the time stamp
[11:26] <jatt> man last
[11:26] <ikonia> you can see when thye logged in / out
[11:27] <musclez> eric^^ do i still end to mv or was that first input sufficient?
[11:27] <EriC^^> musclez: type ls -l /var/lib/dpkg/statoverride
[11:27] <EriC^^> is it there?
[11:27] <ikonia> would it not be quicker to backup/re-install/restore
[11:27] <ikonia> you'd have been done by now
[11:28] <thenewone> how list folder hwo start with p in any folder
[11:28] <musclez> yeah " root root ### may 1
[11:28] <musclez> somehtiung is there
[11:28] <ikonia> thenewone: I think you need to learn the basics of the shell
[11:28] <heikki_> seems like no'one cares to help
[11:28] <ikonia> thenewone: we are not going to help you with every linux command
[11:28] <thenewone> ikonia, i know ls
[11:29] <ikonia> thenewone: you need to know more than "ls"
[11:29] <bazhang> #ubuntu-server heikki_
[11:29] <EriC^^> thenewone: ls p*
[11:29] <heikki_> ok
[11:29] <ikonia> heikki_: people won't help as you don't share the info
[11:29] <thenewone> i know how use shell put list olders who start with p i never to to use it before
[11:29] <thenewone> thanks
[11:29] <EriC^^> thenewone: that will list all files though, not just dirs
[11:29] <ikonia> hence why I stopped
[11:29] <thenewone> but ls p* show files either
[11:29] <EriC^^> yes files and dirs
[11:29] <thenewone> i want folder
[11:29] <thenewone> only folder
[11:29] <ikonia> ls -d
[11:29] <qwd> Found the solution at https://stackoverflow.com/questions/264395/linux-equivalent-of-the-mac-os-x-open-command
[11:30] <ikonia> so again - please learn the basics
[11:30] <heikki_> ikonia: share the info? LOL! If i ask your bank account details because i am helping you to walk on a street, would you share the info?
[11:30] <EriC^^> thenewone: actually not
[11:30] <threesixes> ls -d yeah that's the one
[11:30] <EriC^^> thenewone: use ls -d p*
[11:30] <ikonia> heikki_: I didn't ask for your bank details
[11:30] <ikonia> I asked for the number of vhosts
[11:30] <bazhang> heikki_, chit chat elsewhere NOT here
[11:30] <threesixes> y u no teach em man?
[11:30] <thenewone> thanks guys
[11:30] <heikki_> you don't need the exact number of vhosts to fix email problems
[11:30] <heikki_> bazhang: ok sorry
[11:31] <ikonia> heikki_: I did - I was working out the best method of 3 options to get you the info, and the number of vhosts impacted my decision
[11:31] <JunkyFunkyKid> hello, i would like some help?
[11:31] <ikonia> JunkyFunkyKid: just state your problem, and if people can help, they will
[11:32] <heikki_> ok, i hate this channel and i hate everyone, bye.
[11:32] <JunkyFunkyKid> well, it seems i downloaded the free star craft version from archive.org, and i cannot start it.
[11:32] <JunkyFunkyKid> it says something about open gl libraries being missing.
[11:33] <MonkeyDust> what's starcraft? a game?
[11:33] <JunkyFunkyKid> yes.
[11:34] <bazhang> !find opencl
[11:37] <JunkyFunkyKid> oh yes, i cannot load any program from "files" i run zorin 7 and cannot even compile.
[11:37] <MonkeyDust> JunkyFunkyKid zorin is not supported here
[11:37] <JunkyFunkyKid> so, even if i do download this package, it will not load.
[11:37] <JunkyFunkyKid> oh ok.
[11:38] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:40] <tokam> Is there a nice ilustrator software to create people images in a commic style
[11:40] <cfhowlett> tokam, inkscape or gimp
[11:41] <tokam> thanks
[11:41] <cfhowlett> to!
[11:47] <TheHackOps> Just a quick graphics question, I have an XFX R9 280x (AMD), I keep having weird display issues like holes appearing in places and fonts displaying almost like they're broken
[11:47] <baja> how do i know if my distribution is debian or not?
[11:47] <TheHackOps> Also I am having massive performance issues with graphics
[11:47] <TheHackOps> Anyone have any ideas?
[11:49] <ashleyis> baja: if lsb_release is installed 'lsb_release -d' will tell you
[11:50] <MonkeyDust> baja cat /etc/issue
[11:50] <TheHackOps> I am able to play steam games fine if I launch steam with the following
[11:50] <TheHackOps> LD_PRELOAD='/usr/$LIB/libstdc++.so.6' DIAPLAY=:0 steam
[11:50] <baja> hey guys is there a way i can log all commands i try on the terminal to a file for future reference
[11:50] <GotKlass`> ! Brucesht! The worst sport ever moyer boyer foot ball! Brucesht, boyer. notch, and that's a fucker game, it's a soccer game, so boyer coyer! Boyer football! Boyer royer! Boyer made. No!
[11:51] <baja> im guessing it would be helpful in the future
[11:51] <TJ-> baja: Try "history"
[11:51] <GotKlass`> The world cares about football. After the worse thing but as watching on during on during. Most people are runna ma naes.
[11:52] <baja> where is history
[11:52] <cfhowlett> GotKlass`, this is the ubuntu support channel. stay on topic or go elsewhere please.
[11:52] <TJ-> baja: it's a command to issue in the shell
[11:52] <baja> whats the command?
[11:52] <TJ-> baja: Try "history"
[11:52] <baja> ok
[11:53] <MonkeyDust> baja type this: history > history.list; less history.list
[11:53] <GotKlass`> It's a football. Nothing prime but the Jaguars, Cornfuckers, Cornbuck fuck cornhuskers, Cowboys, Ravens, Cornhuskers, so they go brucesht boyer football game it's a football game, it's no lie it's a futball game, so the Jaguars, so boyer football game. It's a soccer game, it's a futball and rittered. Except when I cover moyer! Brucesht boyer royer moyer! Boyer!
[11:53] <GotKlass`> Stop lawyyer made. Lynx game, so bored, makes me say oh my eyes it sucks ten rears.
[11:53] <MonkeyDust> GotKlass` wrong channel
[11:53] <cfhowlett> GotKlass`, stop the profanity. now.
[11:53] <GotKlass`> Juni Jonn Joans Football game. It's a soccer game, so the Nebraska Cornhusk. Fuck cornhuskers, Cornhusk. Husk, cornhusk. Husk, cornhuskers, so the worst sport events on during. Most people are runna ma naes. It is college football is the Jaguars, Cornhuskers, Cornbucklers. Rum-dum-dum-dum-football. Nothing on television is the Jaguars, so the worse they shown on during worst sport everything
[11:53] <GotKlass`> Here's an interview with me.
[11:53] <GotKlass`> Nothing but this stupid football. Nothing on television is that's a fuck cornbucklers. Rum-dum-football makes me, it's a soccer game, so boyer my lord, what is the football is that is thing but they go brucesht, boyer moyer football. Nothing on television. No!
[11:53] <GotKlass`> GotKlass, how do you get away with spamming the channel?
[11:53] <GotKlass`> GotKlass`: Well, I start out by doing it while the ops or channel operators aren't here. it's so funny. You can spam on freenode very quickly, compared with other IRC networks. And the ops literally do nothing here
[11:53] <GotKlass`> The worst sport ever moyer coyer!
[11:53] <baja> its now working
[11:53] <cfhowlett> !ops | GotKlass`
[11:54] <baja> anyone has another command
[11:54] <baja> for checking history of terminal
[11:54] <MonkeyDust> baja type this: history > history.list; less history.list
[11:55] <baja> is that one command or two
[11:55] <baja> @monkey
[11:55] <MonkeyDust> baja that's two commands, separated by ;
[11:55] <baja> wow magic
[11:55] <BluesKaj> baja, I keep a text file of important and the most used commands under various titles like burning or networking wifi etc
[11:55] <baja> @monkey thanks
[11:56] <baja> :)
[11:56] <MonkeyDust> I have a text file with 'snippets', useful commands
[11:56] <baja> BluesKaj how do i do that?
[11:56] <TJ-> baja: MonkeyDust The history is already in a file: ".bash_history"
[11:57] <baja> ok TJ
[11:57] <MonkeyDust> baja what's TJ- says: more than one way to do it
[11:57] <baja> ok
[11:58] <BluesKaj> create a text file in your /home/user then add the commands to it
[11:58] <BluesKaj> and save it everytime you add or edit
[11:58] <baja> ok let me try ...
[11:58] <TJ-> baja: read all about how shell history works: "man bash" and then type "/^HISTORY" and press Enter to jump to the HISTORY section of the manual page
[11:59] <baja> dir
[12:00] <baja> how do i create file
[12:01] <wal> GotKlass`: Death row!
[12:01] <wal> GotKlass`: You can talk about sex
[12:01] <wal> ! Brucesht! The worst sport ever moyer boyer foot ball! Brucesht, boyer. notch, and that's a fucker game, it's a soccer game, so boyer coyer! Boyer football! Boyer royer! Boyer made. No!
[12:01] <cfhowlett> wal stop it. now.
[12:01] <Ben64> !ops
[12:01] <wal> The world cares about football. After the worse thing but as watching on during on during. Most people are runna ma naes.
[12:01] <cfhowlett> !ops | wal
[12:01] <wal> It's a football. Nothing prime but the Jaguars, Cornfuckers, Cornbuck fuck cornhuskers, Cowboys, Ravens, Cornhuskers, so they go brucesht boyer football game it's a football game, it's no lie it's a futball game, so the Jaguars, so boyer football game. It's a soccer game, it's a futball and rittered. Except when I cover moyer! Brucesht boyer royer moyer! Boyer!
[12:01] <wal> Eat shit
[12:01] <wal> Stop lawyyer made. Lynx game, so bored, makes me say oh my eyes it sucks ten rears.
[12:01] <wal> Juni Jonn Joans Football game. It's a soccer game, so the Nebraska Cornhusk. Fuck cornhuskers, Cornhusk. Husk, cornhusk. Husk, cornhuskers, so the worst sport events on during. Most people are runna ma naes. It is college football is the Jaguars, Cornhuskers, Cornbucklers. Rum-dum-dum-dum-football. Nothing on television is the Jaguars, so the worse they shown on during worst sport everything
[12:01] <wal> on television. Colts, Ravens, Cowboys, Redskins, Cornfuck cornhusk. Husk Husk Husk, cornhuskers, Cowboys, Redskins, Cornhuskers, Cornbuckers, Cowboys, Ravens, Cornhuskers, College football is the Super Bowl, everything on television. Nothing but football games, uh, I can't watching but thing but as watch.
[12:02] <Ben64> thanks, mysterious op
[12:02] <cfhowlett> Ben64, my /ignore list is getting a workout today
[12:03] <MonkeyDust> summer vacation... more bored teens online, i guess
[12:05] <musclez> tj- can i get more assistance if ur available... terminal crashe dwhen i tried to reinstall the kernel and then we got /var/lib/dpkg/statoverride and i have no idea what was going on
[12:08] <TJ-> musclez: I'm working at the mo, sorry. I'd suggest trying to get a memtest running from the live ISO... you may have to boot the USB in Legacy mode in order for memtest to work. You may need a dedicated memtest86+ bootable ISO if the Live ISO doesn't work.
[12:09] <BluesKaj> these trolls could at least learn some proper English :-)
[12:10] <cfhowlett> BluesKaj, , that was a weird accent. I wanted to guess irish or scottish based on the spelling
[12:11] <BluesKaj> cfhowlett looked to me like he used a crappy translator
[12:13] <reddeath68> just had a total system freeze and sysrq didnt work(yes it is enabled fully)
[12:13] <reddeath68> any idea where to start looking for problems
[12:14] <MonkeyDust> !details | reddeath68
[12:15] <reddeath68> my system suddenyl frooze completely to the point even sysrq would not work, I have been having trouble with fglrx and gpu lockups as well
[12:16] <reddeath68> running ubuntu 14.04.2 fresh install and last memory test I ran (about a week ago) was all clear
[12:17] <reddeath68> any other details needed?
[12:18] <musclez> TJ- thanks a lot for the help i'm going to wait until i get more assistance. You guys left me in the middle of an install and then Eric was checking some file locations. now there are no kernels on the boot at all so i dont want to mess with it and make my self worse off.
[12:20] <bitnibble> Hi, I've just upgraded vivid (original install was in Dec'14) and I'm struggling to get a working desktop. I have no mouse, I've installed ubuntu-gnome-desktop, rebooted, I login and have a clock with the time from 10 minutes ago top right, a bar with the blue screensave image at the top and no keys do anything. How can I launch a simple xterm please?
[12:22] <MonkeyDust> bitnibble if you have more than one pc in the same network, try ssh to the problem pc
[12:23] <bitnibble> I need a desktop running. This machine is hosting VLC listening on http but it needs a desktop due to dbus bullshit.
[12:24] <reddeath68> does anyone know where I can start looking for causes of gpu lockup and a full system freeze
[12:24] <bitnibble> If you know how to invoke vlc in that mode without the desktop running I'll take it. But what should my expectations of gnome on vivid be? Surely I should be able to do SOMETHING?
[12:24] <Ben64> i think "cvlc" is the command line version
[12:27] <collins> is everyone using linux here
[12:27] <baja> hey people how so i install u torrent
[12:27] <baja> do
[12:27] <MonkeyDust> !info utorrent
[12:28] <MonkeyDust> baja try deluge
[12:28] <baja> ok
[12:28] <collins> okay??????
[12:28] <MonkeyDust> collins this is the ubuntu support channel
[12:28] <cfhowlett> collins, we use ubuntu. what do you use?
[12:28] <bitnibble> cvlc still throws 5 errors (not warnings) including dbus. It's listening but vlc remote is not connecting. Maybe it's not a desktop issue but the desktop sure is useless
[12:29] <ashmew2> baja, just for the heads up, transmission seems to misbehave with most trackers I use. Deluge is pretty decent.
[12:29] <baja> ok im downloading deluge
[12:30] <ayejoike> deluge is awesome
[12:30] <ayejoike> deluge is the only torrent client that doesn't have a Yes/No spyware contract
[12:30] <ayejoike> like Azereus or uTorrent do
[12:31] <OerHeks> standard transmission does not have that either, ayejoike
[12:32] <reddeath68> trying to figure out total system freeze(sysrq would not work and it is enabled) ran a memory test last week which came back clean, running ubuntu 14.04.2 fresh install fglrx graphics running HD redeon 7660D
[12:32] <ayejoike> oh yeah forgot about btlaunchmany.py. Why doesn't btlaunchmany.py work anymore?
[12:32] <ayejoike> I have to use deluge
[12:36] <ayejoike> is the a program like 3D Ripper for Linux
[12:36] <ayejoike> err ubuntu I guess
[12:36] <ayejoike> 3D Ripper 3D Rippe rwhere it rips DirectX 3D data from Windows program windows
[12:41] <studio_> hi
[12:41] <studio_> what new ubuntu server version is running on an "VIA C7 Eden"?
[12:42] <cfhowlett> !server | studio_
[12:43] <studio_> the problem is the kernel, therefore i asked. the VIA C7 Eden is an old x86 cpu
[12:44] <MonkeyDust> studio_ start from the beginning, what brings you here
[12:44] <OerHeks> 32 bit server, AFAIK
[12:44] <studio_> i am looking for na image to install on my old firewall
[12:44] <studio_> na=an
[12:45] <TJ-> studio_: I suspect you'd need an old 32-bit kernel that doesn't have PAE support built in, because I don't thnk the C7 has PAE support
[12:45] <studio_> TJ-, right
[12:45] <TJ-> studio_: I think Debian still has non-PAE builds
[12:45] <OerHeks> lubuntu too
[12:46] <studio_> the lates debian "mini.iso" isn't working :(
[12:47] <TJ-> studio_: maybe this will help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/9w
[12:48] <studio_> is the a "mini" non-pae image from xubuntu for servers?
[12:48] <studio_> ahh, will read ...
[12:49] <ealbornoz> hi
[12:50] <ealbornoz> speak spanish?
[12:50] <MonkeyDust> !ezs
[12:50] <MonkeyDust> !es
[12:50] <IrfanAlam_> Can I password protect port :2004 and 2002 of my webiste ? How ?
[12:52] <wajael> the hacking cool. With isis, now we're child molestening. It's over! Word!
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[12:52] <IrfanAlam_> anyone there ?
[12:52] <OerHeks> !ot | wajael
[12:52] <cfhowlett> !ops | wajael trolling
[12:52] <wajael> This is the dream. Dee dos Xbox, PlayStation a no fly list. Diverting the Lizard Squad baby, it's over! With Mentos fresh goes better in life! Word!
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[12:52] <TJ-> IrfanAlam_: For apache see https://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/howto/auth.html
[12:52] <wajael> I'm living jets of life!
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[12:53] <wajael> We affliate jets of Sony execs. Vandelay, Vandelay bay industries. Vandelay bay. Mandelay bay industries. Mandelay bay. Mandelay industries. Mandelay bay industries. Yo-hoh-hoh-hoh! Mandelay bay. Mandelay bay. Mandelay. Vandelay bay industries.
[12:53] <wajael> Bionic eggs, violin eggs, violin eggs, bionic legs. Violin eggs, violin life!
[12:53] <cfhowlett> getting real tired of adding this silly person to /ignore, but hexchat does make it easy.
[12:53] <wajael> Nothing fresh, staying fresh goes better with Mentos Fresh goes better what comes, fresh and full of Sony execs. Mandelay. Vandelay bay industries. Yo-hoh-hoh-hoh! Mentos the dream, team. Increasy molestening. I'm living to you! Staying gets of life! Mentos the fresh and full of life! We'll leave this.
[12:53] <wajael> We affliate with Mentos freshness. Diverting gets to North Korea's the dream, team. I'm livin' the hacking jets of life! Mentos the best Korea man. North Korea! Word!
[12:53] <wajael> Mandelay bay industries. Fresh and full of Duty, and we're child molestenie.
[12:53] <wajael> We took down Destiny! Fifa, Call of Duty, and we're on and full of life!
[12:53] <IrfanAlam_> TJ-: not able to understand anything.... can you tell simply ?
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[12:54] <wajael> This is the Lizard Squad baby, it's over. Increasy molestening. Increase easy molestenie.
[12:54] <wajael> We affliate this.
[12:54] <wajael> We took down Destiny! Fifa, Call of Sony execs. Diverting cool. With isis, now we're child molestening. It doesn't matter with isis, now we're on and full of life!
[12:54] <studio_> TJ-, is there a "smaller" image available? my router only got a 1GB compact flash?
[12:54] <wajael> Nothing cool. With Mentos freshmaker.
[12:54] <TJ-> IrfanAlam_: IF you're using the Apache httpd web-server, use the page I linked to learn how to apply authentication
[12:54] <wajael> I'm living gets of life!
[12:55] <wajael> Nothing fresh goes better with Mentos Fresh and we're child molestenie.
[12:55] <TJ-> studio_: I've no idea, I build my own kernels :)
[12:55] <wajael> We affliate with Mentos fresh, staying fresh and full of Duty, and full of life! Mentos fresh and full of life! With Mentos fresh and full of life! Mandelay, Vandelay bay industries. Yo-hoh-hoh-hoh-hoh! Mandelay bay industries. Vandelay bay industries. Mandelay bay industries. Vandelay bay industries. Dee dos Xbox, PlayStation and full of Duty, and Steam probably hate the best Korea man. North
[12:55] <wajael> Korea's the Lizard Squad baby, it's over! Word!
[12:55] <wajael> Mandelay bay industries. Mandelay bay. Vandelay industries. Vandelay, Vandelay bay industries.
[12:55] <wajael> Bionic legs! ea man. North Korea man. North Korea! With Mentos Fresh and Steam. Diverting private with Mentos the hacking gets of Sony execs. Vandelay, Mandelay, Mandelay, Mandelay bay industries. Fresh, staying the fresh goes better in legs! t doesn't matter with Mentos fresh and Steam probably hate the Lizard Squad baby, it's over! Wit
[12:55] <wajael> w we're child molestening. Increase easy crease easy crease easy molestenie.
[12:55] <wajael> We took down Destiny! Fifa, Call of Duty, and full of Sony execs. Vandelay, Vandelay bay industries. Vandelay bay industries. Freshmaker.
[12:55] <wajael> I'm livin' the fresh goes better with Mentos fresh and full of Sony execs. Mandelay bay industries. Vandelay industries. Yo-hoh! Mentos the best Korea's the dream. I'm livin' the freshness. Fresh goes better with Mentos freshness. Vandelay, Mandelay bay. Vandelay bay industries. Diverting jets of Duty, and full of life!
[12:56] <wajael> Nesh and full of Sony execs.
[12:57] <IrfanAlam_> TJ-: No where mentioned there that port can be protected. can port protected ?
[12:57] <TJ-> IrfanAlam_: If the web server is listening on those ports, yes
[12:58] <IrfanAlam_> TJ-: it is listening....how to protect then ?
[12:58] <TJ-> IrfanAlam_: you don't protect the ports, you protect the <vhost> that is set to answer on that port
[12:58] <IrfanAlam_> TJ-: how ?
[12:59] <TJ-> IrfanAlam_: read the documentation that is what it is there for
[13:01] <IrfanAlam_> TJ-: can you tell me under which heading it is ?
[13:03] <TJ-> IrfanAlam_: That page goes into great detail on the choices and how it's done. If you're administering a web-server you need to master such things.
[13:04] <skinux> Can GRUB over-write MBR with EFI-mode enabled?
[13:04] <studio_> TJ-, non-pae is eol? or is it still supported?
[13:04] <IrfanAlam_> TJ-: for the current , please tell me how ?
[13:05] <N> o.org
[13:06] <TJ-> studio_: On Ubuntu, EOL is the definition of 'no longer supported'
[13:07] <OerHeks> End-Of-Life
[13:07] <TJ-> IrfanAlam_: No, that's your job as system administrator. It isn't an Ubuntu support issue, it's specific to the Apache httpd. Try asking in #httpd
[13:07] <OerHeks> studio_, lubuntu 12.04 is Non-PAE , else see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PAE
[13:07] <reddeath68> trying to figure out total system freeze(sysrq would not work and it is enabled) ran a memory test last week which came back clean, running ubuntu 14.04.2 fresh install fglrx graphics running HD redeon 7660D
[13:10] <OerHeks> reddeath68, time to explore the kern.log/kern.log.1
[13:10] <skinux> How do I install GRUB to MBR? After booting into Windows 8.1 and installing a bunch of updates and then re-booting, MBR seems to be misconfigured so it now says it does not find a system disk. I have to use EFI boot screen to select an OS.
[13:10] <TJ-> OerHeks: " Lubuntu 12.04 is out of support and should not be used. "
[13:10] <IrfanAlam_> TJ-: see you soon after some days !
[13:10] <OerHeks> TJ-, oh, you are right, 3 year
[13:11] <TJ-> reddeath68: have you discounted overheating ?
[13:11] <TJ-> OerHeks: there's some footnotes right at the end of that page with the supported releases info ... good job I always read the smallprint :)
[13:13] <skinux> Does Ubuntu use GRUB 1, 2, or ELILO now?
[13:13] <TJ-> skinux: GRUB2
[13:14] <skinux> Okay.
[13:15] <reddeath68> TJ-, I have the side of my system and it runs a top fan that uncoverd dont think heat is the issue
[13:15] <skinux> My MBR (for some reason) can't find a system disk to boot, I have to use EFI boot manager to select an OS. So, I believe I need to install GRUB to MBR to fix it.
[13:15] <reddeath68> OerHeks, what am I looking for in the log?
[13:17] <studio_> OerHeks, is this "http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/non-pae/mini.iso" what i need?
[13:18] <TJ-> skinux: If the system is UEFI and the OS entry is missing from the menu, the entry simply needs re-adding. MBR has nothing to do with it. First of all, does the UEFI boot menu include a boot to "shell" option?
[13:18] <OerHeks> reddeath68, i think you want to explore the end of the log, multiple warnings, or jumps in log time gives a clue
[13:20] <TJ-> reddeath68: If not heat, and this issue has recently begun, consider what you've changed/done to the system at that time... I'd be considering PCI{e} adapters that have become slightly unseated, cabling issues, external device connections, possible power-supply glitches
[13:21] <reddeath68> TJ-, honestly I believe my graphics arent playing nice with the .2 stack of 14.04.2
[13:21] <TJ-> reddeath68: It's possible... are there alternative drivers for the GPU you can switch to?
[13:23] <reddeath68> TJ-, I havent heard of any aside from catalyst which on previous install didnt seem to like .2 stack very much either im using a amd HD radeon 7660D
[13:24] <skinux> TJ: I'm not sure if it does or not. However, if I boot the machine without pressing F12 (for EFI boot menu), it says system not not found and tries to do PXE boot which also fails. It then says to reboot by pressing a key.
[13:25] <skinux> TJ: It used to boot into Windows boot selection, but now it says disk not found.
[13:25] <reddeath68> OerHeks, there is only one time jump i see and its around time of freeze http://paste.ubuntu.com/11783435/
[13:29] <anrafel> hola alguien habla español
[13:29] <TJ-> skinux: Right, so the firmware isn't finding a bootable device. If you use F12 does it list the disk that has the operating systems installed ?
[13:29] <skinux> Yes, pressing F12 I'm able to boot into either Linux or Windows.
[13:30] <TJ-> skinux: Is that via UEFI entries that are named "Windows" or "Ubuntu" or similar, *or* by simply selecting the disk drive and then the GRUB boot-loader starting and offering a choice?
[13:31] <skinux> If I select Ubuntu, I get GRUB, if I select Windows then I get Windows boot manager.
[13:32] <anrafel> somebody speack spanish, i need some help, please
[13:32] <TJ-> skinux: Right, so it's a full UEFI boot then *and* the boot menu has the entries there. So it sounds like your problem is simply that you need to go into the full firmware Setup and set the default boot entry correctly. Right now it obviously has an incorrect default so it fails to boot.
[13:32] <MonkeyDust> !es
[13:32] <anrafel> gracias
[13:32] <skinux> TJ: I'll give that a try.
[13:36] <rictoo> hello, i want to setup a bridge from eth0 to wlan0 (eth0 connected to gateway) with an OpenVPN connection and allow clients to connect via wlan0 to get eth0+openVPN
[13:36] <rictoo> is this possibnle?
[13:37] <MonkeyDust> rictoo i guess ##networking is a better place for that question
[13:38] <rictoo> ok
[13:43] <reddeath68> so after my system freeze upon searching the kernel log I found this one suspicious line http://paste.ubuntu.com/11783435/
[13:47] <TJ-> reddeath68: I'm going to stick my neck out and suggest a sticky bit in one of the RAM modules, despite what memtest says - it's not infallible. I've often cured this kind of issue by simply reseating the RAM modules or swapping them around in the slots.
[13:47] <skinux> TJ: I found a fix. First of all UEFI boot was turned off, so I turned it on. Then I moved Linux to top of UEFI boot menu and now it boots into Ubuntu on it's own.
[13:48] <TJ-> skinux: Well done :)
[13:48] <reddeath68> TJ-, that soundslike a decent idea to try it may also explain the random firefox and wine crashes I experience infrequently
[13:48] <skinux> Obviously, the MBR got torqed though, because that's what it was trying to use.
[13:48] <reddeath68> TJ-, ill be sure to also blow out the system when I reset the ram
[13:49] <TJ-> reddeath68: but I have to say my gut reaction would still be localised overheating first - CPU, GPU, Southbridge chipset or possibly even the RAM modules depending on what type they are and if the system is overclocked or overvolted
[13:50] <TJ-> sticky bits very rarely cause a complete lock-up without seeing a lot of things going wrong first
[13:50] <reddeath68> TJ-, possibly hopefully blowing it out and reseating the ram will make a difference
[13:51] <TJ-> reddeath68: Yes... reseat everything and check cables, and look for damaged Electrolytic capacitors around the motherboard volytage regulator circuitry
[13:51] <TJ-> reddeath68: look for tops of capacitors starting to bulge, or signs of lakage around their base
[13:51] <reddeath68> TJ-, will do
[13:51] <TJ-> reddeath68: good luck ... I'm off to do some kernel testing
[13:52] <reddeath68> tjok thnx
[13:56] <tr3y> Hey guys I'm running Ubuntu 14.04 64 bit on a Lenovo G580 laptop. I'm having a weird WiFi issue. It usually works fine but occasionally when I close the lid and leave it over night, I wake it up and can't connect to the WiFi without resetting the router. Any ideas?
[14:02] <MonkeyDust> tr3y that's not weird, it's simply unstable
[14:03] <tr3y> MonkeyDust, yeah very unstable. None of my other devices have trouble connecting before the router reset. And this has happened a lot with the laptop. Is this normal for ubuntu?
[14:09] <BIFF_T> hello
[14:09] <tarvid> LAMP installed with tasksel, PHP not running
[14:09] <BIFF_T> is anyone here familiar with mini vMac using ubuntu?
[14:10] <BIFF_T> i am just wondering why when i use mini vMac my graphics are distored. when i run my mouse over the emulation window, it distorts everything in its path
[14:14] <bmagis> i declare PS1 in .bashrc using tput now when i use scp to move files to his particular machine i now get an error "tput: No value for $TERM and no -T specified" should i declare PS1 elsewhere?
[14:15] <zykotick9> bmagis: what's "tput" for? typically, PS1 in .bashrc is specified with PS1=foo
[14:16] <teward> bmagis: you might be able to achieve the same thing that tput is doing with plain old PS1 bashisms... but without knowing what tput is doing...
[14:18] <xvanx> hi
[14:19] <xvanx> hi
[14:19] <EriC^> hi
[14:19] <xvanx> where do u come from?
[14:20] <kreezxil> How do you undo "dpkg --clear-selections"?
[14:20] <EriC^> xvanx: do you need help with something?
[14:21] <xvanx> no, not now
[14:22] <MonkeyDust> xvanx for nice social chat, type /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:23] <xvanx> oke. thanks man
[14:26] <skinux> How much disk space should I need to install Ubuntu-Studio package into my pre-existing Ubuntu installation?
[14:27] <skinux> I only have 1Gig of free disk space, however, I do have another 10G on a storage partition if there is some way I can install onto that partition.
[14:27] <EriC^> 1gb should be more than enough
[14:28] <EriC^> i guess
[14:28] <skinux> Well, how much space should I need?
[14:28] <EriC^> 186mb
[14:29] <EriC^> skinux: type apt-get install ubuntustudio-desktop and it should say
[14:30] <skinux> It says 200MB will be used after installation, so I guess all of the audio/video software is only 200MB.
[14:31] <EriC^> yeah
[14:31] <skinux> Somehow, I need to remove a whole bunch of Python packages that were installed by running setup.py once or twice.
[14:31] <linuxd> where to get Virtualbox Extension Pack 4.3.18 Debian?
[14:32] <skinux> linuxd: I would assume a quick search on DuckDuckGo.com or Google.com would return plenty of information.
[14:32] <skinux> linuxd: Wait, actual Debian or Ubuntu?
[14:32] <studio_> OerHeks, i tried different "mini.iso" for non pae, but the only image which is working seems to be the squeeze nonpae mini.iso?
[14:33] <linuxd> skinux: ubuntu .i mean
[14:33] <skinux> linuxd: Then I think an internet search should probably return good links.
[14:33] <linuxd> i allready tried that
[14:34] <skinux> try Google using "site:virtualbox.org Extension Pack"
[14:37] <kreezxil> How do you undo "dpkg --clear-selections" in ubuntu 14.04 lts?
[14:39] <zykotick9> kreezxil: have you seen this page? http://askubuntu.com/questions/166003/how-to-set-the-package-selection-status-to-the-current-status
[14:40] <kreezxil> apparently not, i'll check it now
[14:40] <PopePop> What are hemorrhoids?
[14:42] <almark> https://www.google.nl/search?q=hemorrhoids%3F&client=ubuntu&hs=R0D&channel=fs&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=RLaOVaK8OMSsUdqJvrAD&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1263&bih=806
[14:42] <studio_> my problem is, i own a "Lex Uno" (VIA C7 Eden) without the vga-cable, so i am not able to change the boot device. i own an old notebook with an intel "m" processor. so my idea is/was, to install debian or ubuntu (non-pae) with the notebook on the compact-flash-card for the "Lex Uno", because its first boot device is compact flash (card reader) ..., is my idea wrong?
[14:44] <kreezxil> zykotick9: Thank You Very Much, that solved my problem. :)
[14:45] <zykotick9> kreezxil: nice! glad you got it fixed.
[14:46] <kreezxil> zykotick9: yeah, I was in a panic when i saw how many packages were going to get dumped.
[14:47] <tr00per> hello
[14:48] <tr00per> trying to stick two partitions with gparted
[14:48] <tr00per> is there any way to do this?
[14:48] <tr00per> any help?
[14:48] <almark> not with gparted afaik
[14:48] <heeen> how do I start a headless installation of ubuntu server 15.04
[14:48] <compdoc> stick?
[14:49] <heeen> or get it to have a serial or tty access
[14:49] <heeen> under kvm,. that is
[14:49] <tr00per> i mean take 2 partitions and make them 1
[14:49] <MonkeyDust> that's called 'merge'
[14:50] <tr00per> MoneyDust: thanks ;) English is not my native language, and i'm still learning
[14:50] <compdoc> tr00per, safest way: copy all files from the second partition to the first partition, delete the 2nd partition, then grow the first
[14:50] <almark> tr00per these partitions are in use?
[14:50] <tr00per> no, I'm using live cd
[14:51] <hayman> /join ##news
[14:51] <PopePop> how do I set up Hotspot Shield using Ubuntu Network Manager
[14:51] <tr00per> compdoc: they are not big enough
[14:52] <compdoc> then you have to copy the files form the 2nd to another place
[14:52] <compdoc> from
[14:53] <tr00per> compdoc: thank you, i'll try
[14:56] <studio_> TJ-, is here on irc a special channel for older hardware and servers for ubuntu?
[14:57] <teward> studio_: no special channel, no, but #ubuntu-server is the server channel, and for 'older hardware' you're gonna need to be specific about use case
[14:57] <studio_> ok
[14:57] <studio_> thanks
[14:58] <smokeink> hey! i'm trying to cross compile qt using this http://mxe.cc/#tutorial worked great so far, compiled qt and smokegen . Now for smokeqt i want to compile an optional component: qimageblitz , but i'm getting these errors: http://paste.lisp.org/display/150701 how to make it find the qt lib dlls?
[15:02] <MonkeyDust> smokeink what coding language is that?
[15:02] <smokeink> MonkeyDust: what i pasted is just a bunch of bash commands
[15:03] <MonkeyDust> smokeink better ask in#bash, i guess
[15:03] <MonkeyDust> smokeink better ask in #bash, i guess
[15:04] <freemysoul> #bash
[15:14] <chronos_> hi guys, freshly installed 12.04 wifi not working, wasn't even working during the live and airplane mode led always showed on as in activated, cannot be deactivated by fn+airplane-mode-key but rf-kill shows neither soft or hard block in any of the interfaces (which are wireless LAN and blootooth, looks like it doesn't even see the wifi-interface?)... laptop is asus n751j. any hope? please?
[15:14] <detly> I'm running apt-cacher-ng on an ubunty 14.04.1 server, and if i try to download the vivid release file, I get an empty file instead of the real thing - is there a known reason why?
[15:14] <JustPie__work> Hey all. I am trying to run a repair on a hsf+ disk. I tried fsck.hfsplus -fryd -r /dev/sdf3 on the unmounted device and im getting the following output : http://paste.ubuntu.com/11783918/ any ideas?
[15:15] <detly> to be explicit: http://192.168.1.100:3142/mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/ubuntu/archive/ubuntu/dists/vivid/Release is an empty file, but http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/ubuntu/archive/ubuntu/dists/vivid/Release exists and has contents
[15:15] <detly> (where http://192.168.1.100:3142/ is the location of the apt-cacher-ng server)
[15:16] <newke> hi. im looking for clever pdf reader, which would not load all pages at once, but load only those i read and plus few nearby... which it would be?
[15:16] <MonkeyDust> !pdf | newke
[15:19] <Roey> MonkeyDust: heheheheeh nice nick :)
[15:20] <Dr_Alban> ?
[15:20] <Stifler> !?
[15:22] <detly> bah I'm an idiot, I had an old mirror in /etc/apt-cacher-ng/backend_ubuntu
[15:27] <qwd> Yeah, apparently I just do that in the settings for every connection :)
[15:30] <Guest19113> my laptop is running ubuntu 14.04 so hot its cpu is Amd A8 but on window it is so cool
[15:30] <Guest19113> please help to resolve this problem on my laptop
[15:30] <OerHeks> !lmsensors
[15:33] <OerHeks> Guest19113, install AMD drivers with the driver menu might help
[15:36] <LibertyWeNeed> Does anyone know of a email address to contact Dell directly? because I don't want to talk about technical questions, and i haven't found an email address so far.
[15:39] <OerHeks> LibertyWeNeed, sure there is a way of contact tru mail, check http://www.dell.com/support/contents/us/en/19/category/Contact-Information/Customer-Support
[15:39] <OerHeks> not really an ubuntu support question
[15:39] <Guest19113> OerHeks : i have installed all AMD Drivers but it is so hot yet
[15:40] <LibertyWeNeed> I didn't know where else to ask
[15:40] <zykotick9> OerHeks: s/really//
[15:40] <Guest19113> OerHeks : do you know anything about AMD Cpu or APU ?
[15:42] <OerHeks> Guest19113, I don't own one.
[15:48] <servosprudentes> oba
[15:52] <Bozza> hey all how do i force kill something ... with a lot of force
[15:52] <Bozza> i ran sudo ./autorun.sh from terminal
[15:52] <Bozza> and it doesn't want to quit
[15:54] <hume> hi... I've got a brand new installation of 15.04 on a new computer, with two partitions, a boot partition of 60 GB and a large home partition. Now, after 3 days, the boot partition is nearly full - it seems (quick diagnosis) that the file /var/log/kernel.log grows enormously
[15:54] <hume> anyone recognizes this?
[15:55] <Bozza> hume: have you tried turning it on and off again?
[15:56] <hume> Bozza, yes, it hanged so I rebooted. would that change the log file?
[15:56] <zykotick9> hume: i think you mean the root partition, not boot
[15:56] <OerHeks> hume, known issue, if the log is growing .. but 60 gb is huge, in 3 days.
[15:56] <hume> sorry, root partition....../
[15:56] <hume> OerHeks, ok....any idea of what to do?
[15:57] <OerHeks> hume, find the cause, to fix it?
[15:57] <hume> OerHeks, :) any idea of how to find the cause....? I know nothing about kernel.log....
[15:58] <zykotick9> hume: have a look inside it, and see what is repeating so much...
[15:58] <OerHeks> hume, me neither that much, take a look and try to find repeated errors/
[15:58] <OerHeks> use paste.ubuntu.log to share
[16:00] <servosprudentes> hi
[16:05] <pombreda> Ever since the last kernel update (3.16.0-41.57~14.04.1) that came a few days ago on 14.04.1 desktop , my laptop wifi started behaving funny (intel 6205) . can I safely revert to the previous version?
[16:07] <darthanubis> yes
[16:07] <dtscode> Hello everyone! I am trying to setup dancer-ircd via this article: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Dancer-IRCD but my vps cannot find installation candidates for dancer-*. I googled and googled, but couldn't find a project page for dancer-ircd, let alone a repo to add. Does anyone know how I can install it?
[16:10] <ding> you ren mei you
[16:12] <zykotick9> dtscode: it seems dancer-ircd was removed after precise...
[16:13] <sohcron> hi guys, my wifi won't work, it is not seen, rfkill does not see the interface nor does iwconfig or ifconfig, the output of "lspci -nnk | grep -A2 0280" is this "03:00.0 Network controller [0280]: MEDIATEK Corp. Device [14c3:7630]
[16:13] <sohcron> Subsystem: Foxconn International, Inc. Device [105b:e074]
[16:13] <sohcron> 04:00.0 Unassigned class [ff00]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. Device [10ec:5287] (rev 01)
[16:13] <sohcron> "
[16:13] <dtscode> zykotick9: is there any way to add it?
[16:13] <sohcron> sorry for the flood...
[16:13] <pombreda> darthanubis: thanks. just switching the Grub menu is enough? no need to apt-get remove or purge?
[16:13] <sohcron> could anybody help? I'm losing my minds, 2 days following wikis and threads with no success...
[16:13] <zykotick9> dtscode: i have no idea... i'd personally suggest finding an irc server that's in your current version... good luck.
[16:13] <hypernova> erm
[16:14] <dtscode> thanks zykotick9
[16:14] <darthanubis> pombreda, you could do it that way. I purge the offending kernel. Why keep it around if I think it is a problem?
[16:15] <ztane> sohcron: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1220146 ... :P
[16:15] <hypernova> ok
[16:15] <hypernova> who has the probblem?
[16:15] <hypernova> sohcron or zykotick9
[16:15] <hypernova> hey schaap137
[16:15] <hypernova> its me waldesmakiet
[16:16] <ztane> sohcron: read the bug comments backwards (latest first), maybe there's some hint
[16:16] <pombreda> darthanubis: thanks ... rebooting now . :P
[16:16] <darthanubis> cool
[16:16] <Waldeinsamkeit> there we go
[16:18] <Bozza> dtscode: have you tried turning it off and on again?
[16:18] <Waldeinsamkeit> ;P
[16:18] <Bozza> maybe you just need to throw some money at the dancer?
[16:18] <Bozza> Waldeinsamkeit: lolool :3
[16:18] <dtscode> thanks Bozza
[16:20] <pombreda> darthanubis: back. just curisou the .57 kernel was not showing up in the GRUB menu. only the .41 (previous and default) , .38 and .30. Is this normal?
[16:20] <tertiary> I installed Ubuntu Server 14.04.02 and I can only boot in recovery mode, otherwise I get a black screen after grub. Any ideas? (I've tried nomodeset)
[16:21] <shaian> hi
[16:21] <shaian> bye
[16:21] <darthanubis> pombreda, if you purged it why would you see it?
[16:22] <darthanubis> I don't use my grub menu anymore to change kernels. I don't care about it. I use synaptic
[16:23] <pombreda> darthanubis: I did not purge anything yet. I just rebooted to the previous version listed. in this case .38
[16:23] <Waldeinsamkeit> umm servers don't have a gui??
[16:24] <Waldeinsamkeit> sohcron, mabye i found a fix
[16:24] <Waldeinsamkeit> it worked for someone else
[16:24] <Waldeinsamkeit> with the same proble,
[16:24] <pombreda> Waldeinsamkeit: servers do not have GUI for sure :P
[16:25] <Waldeinsamkeit> https://github.com/anthonywong/mt7630
[16:25] <Waldeinsamkeit> try compling these drivers according to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1220146 they work
[16:25] <pombreda> darthanubis: I am more of a CLI type
[16:27] <darthanubis> pombreda, I don't walk when I can drive, if I don't have to. But walking is great exercise.
[16:27] <Waldeinsamkeit> but im afrid thats only for older kernals...
[16:27] <Remoboth_> I share a router....
[16:28] <pombreda> darthanubis: :D
[16:28] <Remoboth_> Roommate has an ethernet cord...
[16:28] <Remoboth_> With two listed networks...
[16:28] <Remoboth_> His band of the router and SMB Server.
[16:28] <Remoboth_> IS SMB Server anything malicious or invasive?
[16:28] <Remoboth_> Potentially?
[16:28] <darthanubis> no
[16:28] <darthanubis> !samba
[16:28] <darthanubis> thats what SMB is
[16:28] <Remoboth_> Thank you.
[16:28] <darthanubis> np
[16:29] <Waldeinsamkeit> https://github.com/Lubensius/MT7630e-ASUSTP500LN-ubuntu also this may work sohcron
[16:29] <silidan> hi, i am using ubuntu 14.04 64bit, i installed libsdl2 64bit, now i wanted to install libsdl2:i386 but it has unmet dependencys???? "libsdl2-2.0-0:i386 : Depends: libwayland-egl1-mesa:i386 (>= 10.0.2) or ..."
[16:29] <sohcron> Waldeinsamkeit, checkin it out right now thanks
[16:30] <Waldeinsamkeit> gl follow that bug thread
[16:31] <silidan> ubottu: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/*YOURWINDOWS* is the way
[16:31] <silidan> darthanubis: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/*YOURWINDOWS* is the way
[16:32] <darthanubis> whut?
[16:32] <asarch> Hi TJ-, yesterday I was asking about setting "priorities" in wireless connections, I tried your command today and I found that doing "sudo iwlist scan wlan0" I don't get the recent turned-on AP name, but if I do "iwlist wpi0 scannig", it appears.
[16:32] <asarch> Can I set that option in the NetworkManager?
[16:32] <asarch> Or should I replace NetworkManager with WICD?
[16:33] <darthanubis> I would not use wicd
[16:33] <asarch> Why?
[16:33] <TJ-> asarch: Well, that simply looks like your Wireless interface doesn't have the default name I used in the example command I gave you.
[16:33] <darthanubis> I see no advantage to doing so. If it aint broke...
[16:34] <tertiary> is there any reason to install graphics drivers on Ubuntu Server? I will be running software that processes images through the gpu...
[16:34] <TJ-> asarch: You might want to check the Network Manager Connection in case it is *not* set to use the wpi0 interface
[16:34] <asarch> NetworkManager is somehow broken in this new release darthanubis
[16:34] <darthanubis> maybe for you
[16:34] <TJ-> asarch: I bet it is simply an interface name-change
[16:35] <asarch> Ok, I'll check it
[16:35] <asarch> Thank you TJ-
[16:35] <darthanubis> but "somehow broken" is vague
[16:35] <asarch> Thank you very much guys
[16:35] <Jakethepython> hello room, for a network of less than 10 computers is it better to set up a workgroup? or a domain?
[16:36] <Jakethepython> i know they are completely different things
[16:36] <darthanubis> workgroup
[16:36] <asarch> Because if I turn off and then re-turn on wireless connections I can see my AP name as available darthanubis
[16:36] <mikubuntu> does anybody have any actual experience using a speech to text program in ubuntu? i don't see any of the options in the software center from this page -- http://www.brighthub.com/computing/linux/articles/92561.aspx -- my sis is disabled and has trouble typing i'd like to find something that works even moderately well, if not perfect
[16:36] <asarch> But I have to do that manually
[16:36] <asarch> And, for a laptop that it is being used for your wife...
[16:37] <darthanubis> why is the wifi being toggled at all?
[16:37] <darthanubis> nevermind
[16:37] <asarch> She gets mad every time she turns on the laptop and then later turn on the AP device and its laptops doesn't get any connection automatically
[16:38] <darthanubis> later turn on the AP device? Why is the AP being turned off?
[16:38] <darthanubis> what kind of AP, what frimware is it running
[16:38] <darthanubis> firmware
[16:38] <darthanubis> I've found the issue more to be with the router than NetworkManager
[16:39] <darthanubis> certain aspects of linux now are just rock solid
[16:39] <asarch> Last night I changed the AP
[16:39] <darthanubis> NM has come a long way
[16:39] <darthanubis> changed how?
[16:39] <asarch> The first one was an EchoLife 530c
[16:39] <darthanubis> never heard of that
[16:40] <asarch> This new one is a Huawei HG532i
[16:40] <darthanubis> factory firmware?
[16:40] <asarch> Both are actually from Huaweii
[16:40] <darthanubis> I flash my routers with DD-WRT or Gargoyle and never have to touch them afterwards
[16:40] <asarch> I don't know about the firmware
[16:41] <asarch> I get those from my ISP
[16:41] <darthanubis> you should find out more about your router firmware, and how to upgrade it
[16:41] <darthanubis> ahhh
[16:41] <darthanubis> ISP routers
[16:41] <TJ-> darthanubis: asarch issue only started after an Ubuntu upgrade; it isn't caused by the router
[16:41] <HeathLock> SCREAMY WEEN
[16:41] <darthanubis> TJ-, ok
[16:41] <silidan> hi, i am using ubuntu 14.04 64bit, i installed libsdl2 64bit, now i wanted to install libsdl2:i386 but it has unmet dependencys???? "libsdl2-2.0-0:i386 : Depends: libwayland-egl1-mesa:i386 (>= 10.0.2) or ..." any help hints and tips?
[16:41] <HeathLock> how do you hack into a DD-WRT system
[16:42] <darthanubis> !op | HeathLock
[16:42] <TJ-> darthanubis: a manual scan finds the AP but Network Manager doesn't appear to be doing the scan, or it is, it's not seeing the resulting AP
[16:42] <darthanubis> sorry!!!
[16:43] <TJ-> asarch: If you could pastebin the "/var/log/syslog" after a boot when this has just happened we might be able to pin down the cause, and a solution, because Network Manager logs quite verbosely to that file.
[16:43] <darthanubis> I meant ot not op
[16:43] <asarch> I have this recently one
[16:43] <asarch> Let me paste the infor TJ-
[16:44] <TJ-> asarch: "pastebinit /var/log/syslog" is the easy way
[16:45] <OerHeks> darthanubis, no harm done :-)
[16:45] <mikubuntu> does anybody have any actual experience using a speech to text program in ubuntu? i don't see any of the options in the software center from this page -- http://www.brighthub.com/computing/linux/articles/92561.aspx -- my sis is disabled and has trouble typing i'd like to find something that works even moderately well, if not perfect
[16:45] <darthanubis> OerHeks, thx
[16:47] <TJ-> mikubuntu: There used to be some good support for partially sighted, text-to-speech. IN GUIs Gnome used to be about the most accomplished (although a bit patchy compared to Windows) but since Ubuntu developed Unity I've never seen any indication of serious attention paid to accessibility
[16:47] <rictoo> what's the difference between a duck?
[16:47] <me_> #wordpress
[16:48] <mikubuntu> oh, hey TJ- i din't see you here! the little mini is working pretty well still! did you ever write up the fixes?
[16:49] <asarch> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11784340/
[16:50] <TJ-> mikubuntu: I still have the notes but not yet got around to making a decision on which static web-site generator tool to use !!
[16:51] <TJ-> asarch: Ouch! You've got a nasty kernel oops there at the end!
[16:51] <alexmob> adellam, why?
[16:52] <asarch> Oh :-(
[16:52] <Remoboth_> Guys. I had Seamonkey Mozilla Build and Chatzilla extension...
[16:52] <asarch> The machine is up a running however
[16:53] <Remoboth_> I deleted SEamonkey but I Can't seem to delete Chatzilla.
[16:53] <Remoboth_> Any help?
[16:53] <OerHeks> Remoboth_, see if that service is still running? terminal: top
[16:55] <Remoboth_> OerHeks - Nope.
[16:56] <TJ-> asarch: The only AP association shown there goes off perfectly. There is however an issue with configuring the local private instance of dnsmasq (the caching DNS server) which might mean that hostname lookups fail
[16:56] <TJ-> asarch: that's at pastebin line 16707
[16:57] <mikubuntu> TJ-: well if it comes to pass let me know, i'd be interested to see. meantime i'm wondering what to do to get some speech to text functionality for sis -- but the pickings seem slim.
[16:57] <asarch> But that issue is not related with the fact that the recent AP is not listed as available connection, right?
[16:57] <OerHeks> Remoboth_, how did you install seamonkey & chatzilla in the first place?
[16:58] <Remoboth_> OerHeks - It came with the install of LXLE...
[16:58] <Remoboth_> I know LXLE isn't supported here..
[16:58] <Remoboth_> But you guys have helped me with other uninstall issues.
[16:58] <OerHeks> reinstall seamonkey, disable chatzilla and remove it?
[17:00] <Jakethepython> i am not able to mount a drive it says it is not in FSTAB could someone please help me?
[17:00] <TJ-> mikubuntu: text to speech is much more successful in text/console mode than GUI. Accessibility is a poor area for Linux GUIs in particular since there's no company legally responsible for implementing it and few volunteers to work on the code. Most mainstream developers pay little to no attention to providing accessibility services.
[17:00] <EriC^^> Jakethepython: type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[17:01] <Remoboth_> OerHeks - Tried that. No luck.
[17:02] <Jakethepython> Eric i did that
[17:02] <EriC^^> Jakethepython: paste the link here
[17:02] <Jakethepython> http://termbin.com/kjjq
[17:03] <hkrrsx> morning
[17:03] <EriC^^> Jakethepython: which partition are you trying to mount?
[17:03] <Jakethepython> 2 and 3
[17:04] <Jakethepython> SDB and SDC should be raided
[17:04] <Trodj> What is meant with "use cross-link cables"? -> http://www.fefe.de/switch/
[17:04] <Jakethepython> raid 1
[17:04] <Jakethepython> hardware raid
[17:04] <EriC^^> Jakethepython: ok, i dunno much about that
[17:05] <zhongfu> Trodj: I'd guess https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethernet_crossover_cable
[17:05] <zhongfu> although i'd guess most gigabit NICs don't need a crossover cable because of auto mdi-x
[17:05] <Trodj> zhongfu: Yes, but why should this prevent sniffing?
[17:06] <zhongfu> Trodj: well, the site you linked appears to talk about sniffing with switches
[17:07] <zhongfu> so eliminate the switch (and connect devices directly), and it'll be much harder to sniff packets without compromising either end i guess
[17:07] <robby7887> has anyone used openstack or worked with it?
[17:07] <hkrrsx> Trodj: Crossover cables allow direct connections betwen 2 machines using a single cable ...... there's no break in the chain to sniff packets
[17:07] <hkrrsx> Solid point-A to point-B connection
[17:08] <hkrrsx> Kind of like the connection between your wrist and elbow
[17:09] <Trodj> hkrrsx: ARP spoofing for example
[17:11] <hkrrsx> Trodj: What about ARP spoofing?
[17:11] <Trodj> hkrrsx: You could sniff packets with ARP spoofing
[17:12] <hkrrsx> Not when using a crossover cable to directly connect 2 machines together
[17:14] <Trodj> hkrrsx: Well, ok. But you can't do this in real. So what's the best solution?
[17:14] <Waldeinsamkeit> burning burning....
[17:14] <Waldeinsamkeit> i want ubunto on my comp ...
[17:15] <hkrrsx> Trodj: The best solution to prevent packet sniffing?
[17:15] <Trodj> Yes
[17:16] <hkrrsx> Trodj: Preliminary research suggests encrypting your traffic
[17:16] <hkrrsx> You can't exactly stop people from sniffing traffic on a network ...... but you can take measures to protect your data streams
[17:17] <hkrrsx> Here is the search I did on the topic and came up with a fair amount of hits: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=prevent+packet+sniffing&t=ffcm&ia=qa
[17:17] <Waldeinsamkeit> or you could just install whonix
[17:18] <Waldeinsamkeit> https://www.whonix.org/
[17:18] <Waldeinsamkeit> i hear that does a good job of stopping packet sniffing and well everything else too
[17:18] <asarch> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WICD
[17:19] <Waldeinsamkeit> but im not sure
[17:21] <Waldeinsamkeit> starshipenterpise is alive!!!
[17:21] <Waldeinsamkeit> i love live usb drives
[17:28] <stony2> Can anybody help me setup upstart? My server crashes every once in a while and i want it to restart itself
[17:29] <bodhi_zazen> If someone has physical access to your network, or they can intercept your wireless signal , you really can not prevent packet sniffing
[17:29] <bodhi_zazen> Best you can do is to not use wireless and physically secure your network
[17:30] <bodhi_zazen> second best is to use encryption protocols so your packets are encrypted, such as ssh, https etc
[17:30] <bodhi_zazen> stony2, depends on why it crashes
[17:31] <stony2> bodhi - its just the service that is crashing not the machine
[17:31] <stony2> my machine stays running but the game server it's hosting goes down - sorry that was unclear
[17:31] <bodhi_zazen> What service and why is it crashing ? bare metal or a VM ?
[17:32] <bodhi_zazen> did you look at the logs to see if you can determine why it crashes ?
[17:32] <shinoy> Shiv
[17:36] <Katronix> Hi all, I have a MicroSD card I'm trying to create an image of using the dd command. When I allow Ubuntu to auto mount the SD card, its mounting /dev/sdb3, /dev/sdb5, and /dev/sdb6 can someone suggest to me what the dd command would be?
[17:39] <Katronix> anyone here?
[17:40] <mtn> Katronix, it mounts the card to all three at once?
[17:40] <bodhi_zazen> dd if=/dev/sdb of=your_file -options
[17:41] <Katronix> mtn yes
[17:41] <stony2> bodhi - VDS its ShooterGameService ARK dedicated server
[17:41] <mtn> Katronix, you only use the device, not the partition. so, /dev/sdb
[17:41] <stony2> Making breakfasat sorry for late response
[17:41] <bodhi_zazen> stony2, have you an upstart script for it already ?
[17:41] <Katronix> thanks
[17:42] <bodhi_zazen> Katronix, and you probably want to unmount all 3 partitions first, although not strictly necessary
[17:42] <stony2> bodhi_zazen, No, I do not. I got into the guide and it was very confusing
[17:43] <Katronix> bodhi_zazen: since its a bootable SD card, I assumed I wanted to :)
[17:43] <stony2> bodhi_zazen, i'm about a week into ubuntu, i'd love to know why its crashing but i'd settle for just having it work
[17:44] <stony2> bodhi = the upstart script that is
[17:45] <bodhi_zazen> stony2, simple script
[17:45] <bodhi_zazen> start on runlevel [2345]
[17:45] <bodhi_zazen> stop on runlevel [016]
[17:45] <bodhi_zazen> respawn
[17:45] <bodhi_zazen> exec su -c your_start_command
[17:45] <stony2> ARK is still in early access - plenty are running the game without crashes... but many have no idea why they are or are not working
[17:45] <bodhi_zazen> but best to debug your server
[17:46] <jak2015> how to install vim?
[17:46] <stony2> Whats a good place to start? there is no working log feature yet with ARK
[17:46] <stony2> I'll give u access to the server if you think you can debug it bodhi
[17:46] <bodhi_zazen> jak2015, apt-get install vim || apt-get install vim-full
[17:47] <bodhi_zazen> stony2, I am playing mandolin at the moment, but I may take you up on the offer later
[17:47] <stony2> and i'd pay you for your time
[17:47] <bodhi_zazen> lol
[17:47] <stony2> Cool
[17:48] <bodhi_zazen> start the server from the command line, do not deamonize it or put it in the background
[17:48] <bodhi_zazen> watch for errors
[17:48] <jak2015> thanks
[17:48] <bodhi_zazen> jak2015, you almost certainly want vim-full
[17:48] <jak2015> bodhi_zazen any advice how to format my: /dev/sdb2
[17:48] <jak2015> E: Unable to locate package vim-full
[17:48] <tertiary> anyone know how to diagnose being stuck at "Loading initial ramdisk..."?
[17:49] <bodhi_zazen> what file system ? mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdb2
[17:49] <stony2> bodhi, it is an ubuntu server so i need I need to figure out the monitoring part - sorry i'm so new at this - going to eat
[17:49] <jak2015> bodhi_zazen wich is better ext3 or ext4
[17:49] <bodhi_zazen> mkfs.vfat dev.sdb2 , etc
[17:50] <bodhi_zazen> jak2015, depends on what you want, but in general, unless you have a specific task, I suggest ext4
[17:50] <bodhi_zazen> stony2, run it in screen ;)
[17:50] <bodhi_zazen> then you can detach
[17:50] <jak2015> bodhi_zazen i want share this resource (after cleanup) in my local network for save files
[17:51] <Katronix> would running the linux system under VirtualBox make the command any different? I unmounted the SDcard, and then linux told me that "dd: failed to open ‘/dev/sdb’: No medium found "
[17:52] <bodhi_zazen> Katronix, post the exact command you ran
[17:53] <bodhi_zazen> jak2015, ext4 is fine for what you want
[17:53] <jak2015> bodhi_zazen: mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdb2
[17:53] <bodhi_zazen> yes
[17:53] <jak2015> wich is the next step?
[17:53] <Katronix> bodhi_zazen: sudo dd if=/dev/sdb of=backup.img
[17:53] <bodhi_zazen> mount /dev/sdb2 /mount_point and start using it
[17:54] <jak2015> how to share using ftp or in windows: \\,yip\myresource (with ask a user pass)?
[17:54] <mtn> Katronix, your command is backwards ;)
[17:55] <mtn> Katronix, you are going to ruin your install if you don't watch out
[17:55] <Katronix> mtn: how is it backwards?
[17:55] <bodhi_zazen> Katronix, dd if=/dev/sdb of=/path/to/backup.img bs=512 conv=noerror,sync
[17:56] <awbee> if=input, of=output
[17:56] <bodhi_zazen> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Disk_cloning
[17:56] <awbee> you wnat to write the .img to the disk, not write the disk to the img
[17:56] <mtn> Katronix, oh, you aren't making a boot disk?
[17:56] <Katronix> awbee: no I want to write the disk to an image :)
[17:56] <bodhi_zazen> no, he wants to copy the disk to an image file
[17:56] <Scomber> Hi! Need some help. I accidently loaded a new partition table to a disk with data that I shouldnt have. I used: # sgdisk --load-backup=table /dev/sdg . It should have said sdh in the end. Fortunate enough the kernel is using the disk so the response I got was: "Warning: The kernel is still using the old partition table. The new table will be used at the next reboot. The operation has completed
[17:56] <Scomber> successfully.". Is there any way for me to abort the use of the new partitontable?
[17:57] <mtn> Katronix, ok. I see. not sure what is wrong with what you are doing
[17:57] <bodhi_zazen> Scomber, use testdisk to recover
[17:58] <Scomber> bodhi_zazen, Thanks!
[17:58] <bodhi_zazen> Scomber, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery
[17:59] <bodhi_zazen> mtn, awbee dd will stop if there are any errors
[17:59] <jak2015> bodhi_zazen: how to share using ftp or in windows: \\,yip\myresource (with ask a user pass)?
[17:59] <mtn> bodhi_zazen, sure, but not if there are no errors but it wipes your hard drive ;)
[17:59] <bodhi_zazen> jak2015, you will have to install and configure a ftp server. IMO samba is better
[18:00] <Katronix> Perhaps its due to running linux under VirtualBox, however I got this: http://pastebin.com/V7ZBya1y If this is the issue I can wait till Monday when my new Nic comes in
[18:01] <bodhi_zazen> Katronix, fdisk -l | pastebinit
[18:02] <awbee> Why aren't all packages available in the Software Center compared to apt-get?
[18:03] <awbee> I haven't been able to google this.
[18:03] <hkrrsx> awbee: What package are you referring to that isn't in the Software Center but is in apt-get ?
[18:03] <hkrrsx> The only thing that comes to mind is if the package is in a PPA, then it might not be in Software Center
[18:03] <OerHeks> awbee, they are.
[18:06] <Scomber> bodhi_zazen, Thanks again ^^
[18:06] <awbee> Well, for example, irssi.
[18:06] <awbee> Or xul-ext-https-everywhere.
[18:06] <awbee> Oh, nevermind the latter.
[18:06] <awbee> Apparently not available to begin with.
[18:07] <OerHeks> sudo apt-get install irssi irssi-scripts
[18:07] <Katronix> bodhi_zazen: http://pastebin.com/bZbzx05m
[18:07] <bodhi_zazen> Scomber, you are most welcom
[18:07] <awbee> ... and irssi is now available in the Software Center... probably due to an update
[18:07] <awbee> sorry for my question then
[18:07] * awbee bows
[18:07] <OerHeks> awbee, have fun
[18:08] <bodhi_zazen> Katronix, are you trying to clone sda ? is sda the virtualbox hard drive ?
[18:08] <moolinex> hello
[18:08] <bodhi_zazen> If so, just shut down the virtual machine and clone or copy the hard drive
[18:08] <Katronix> bodhi_zazen: no I'm not trying to clone sda, however yes that is the VB hard drive
[18:09] <bodhi_zazen> Katronix, well, you really do not want to clone it when the system is running
[18:09] <Katronix> bodhi_zazen: I'm assuming when I unmount the SDCard under VirtualBox it returns control of it to the Guest OS
[18:09] <Katronix> errr HostOS
[18:10] <Katronix> bodhi_zazen: the sda is not from the SDCard, which is what I'm trying to clone
[18:11] <bodhi_zazen> OK, well remount the drive in VBOX then and you should be able to clone it with dd as long as none of the files are in use
[18:12] <Katronix> ok
[18:12] <Katronix> will it also make a bootable image? as is the ultimate goal, the SDCard is bootable
[18:15] <Katronix> bodhi_zazen: well its doing something :)
[18:18] <bodhi_zazen> Katronix, It should
[18:23] <jak2015> bodhi_zazen: sudo apt-get install samba?
[18:24] <bodhi_zazen> jak2015, you on a server ?
[18:25] <bodhi_zazen> jak2015, https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/samba-fileserver.html
[18:28] <stony2> oh bodhi, please fix my server... it just rebooted again people are getting pissed at me
[18:29] <bodhi_zazen> LOL
[18:29] <bodhi_zazen> stony2, what command do you use to start the server ?
[18:29] <stony2> cd /home/steam/arkdedicated/ShooterGame/Binaries/Linux
[18:29] <stony2> ./ShooterGameServer TheIsland?listen?SessionName=" Los Angeles Ark|PvP|Active Admins - No Lag"?MaxPlayers=127?AllowThirdPersonPlayer=false?DifficultyOffset=1?NoTributeDownloads=true?ServerAdminPassword=ROROnukk -server -log
[18:30] <stony2> a lot of that get overwritten by a config file
[18:30] <Gasi-Yuno> hhtsrj
[18:32] <cordyceps> firefox died, clicking the icon does nothing, from the CLI getting: Couldn't load XPCOM. Anybody?
[18:33] <bodhi_zazen> so, take a look for the log file
[18:33] <lotuspsychje> cordyceps: ubuntu version?
[18:33] <cordyceps> ditto chromium, message "timed out"
[18:33] <cordyceps> 14.04
[18:33] <bodhi_zazen> and what config file ? pastebin the config file or search the config file for a log
[18:34] <lotuspsychje> cordyceps: try making another user and start firefox from there
[18:34] <jak2015> bodhi_zazen: http://pastie.org/10262019
[18:34] <jak2015> why how to restart samba
[18:35] <cordyceps> lotuspsychje: sure, but what makes you think that will work?
[18:35] <lotuspsychje> cordyceps: i dont, but its worth a try just to test
[18:35] <bodhi_zazen> jak2015, service samba start
[18:37] <bodhi_zazen> jak2015, see also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Samba/SambaServerGuide
[18:37] <Katronix> thanks for the help bodhi_zazen time for me to go now
[18:37] <jak2015> service samba restart
[18:37] <jak2015> ok thanks
[18:37] <OerHeks> systemctl start smbd.service on systemD
[18:38] <jak2015> ok
[18:38] <jak2015> service samba restart
[18:38] <jak2015> done too
[18:38] <bodhi_zazen> service .... should still work with systemd
[18:38] <OerHeks> systemctl status smbd.service
[18:39] <bodhi_zazen> OerHeks, service samba status still works with systemd
[18:40] <bodhi_zazen> OerHeks, http://paste.fedoraproject.org/237256/30432143/
[18:41] <OerHeks> bodhi_zazen, thanks, correct.
[18:41] <jak2015> thx
[18:46] <bodhi_zazen> OerHeks, slightly less typing ;)
[18:47] <bodhi_zazen> sort is a pain, IMO, to the to add .service for systemctl
[18:50] <Bray90820> Can someone help me I am trying to get this scrip running when I boot my system without having to enter my sudo password
[18:50] <Bray90820> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=K10Ag3Br
[18:51] <ol_> I am new to this system, trying to get help with printer sharing
[18:52] <lotuspsychje_> !printer | ol_
[18:53] <zykotick9> bodhi_zazen: i'd actually suggest getting use to systemd, it nice you can enable/disable service from starting right from systemctl. fyi, there "should" be autocomplete on the .service files, and TAB is a quick key ;)
[18:53] <Bray90820> ol_: are you trying to use a shared printer or share a printer
[18:57] <e01> is there some nice web ui for ubuntu server for routing purposes like openwrt's luci or synology's dsm?
[19:02] <toomuchfun> anyone using the Meizu MX4?
[19:02] <darthanubis> e01, zentyal
[19:03] <cheetahw26> For some reason on my box, the wifi starts ok, but then after a while sometimes something appears to crash and my adapter is no longer available, i.e. ifconfig just hangs and I can see that I have no network info
[19:03] <darthanubis> !zentyal | e01
[19:03] <cheetahw26> I thought something might be turning it off, but when I issue: rfkill list, everything appears to be on...
[19:03] <Remoboth_> O.k.
[19:03] <cheetahw26> err... rather, not blocked...
[19:04] <cheetahw26> is there a way to re-initiate the device?
[19:04] <Remoboth_> Windows has CCleaner as a comprehensive secure wipe tool... It does everything... Deletes cached web data, shreds and zeroes..
[19:04] <Remoboth_> Does Ubuntu have an equivalent?
[19:04] <Remoboth_> I know we have Bleachbit but it seems... dubious.
[19:05] <lotuspsychje_> Remoboth_: bleachbit is nice
[19:06] <nhz6> Remoboth_: your applying a windows issue that is not really in linux.
[19:06] <Remoboth_> I guess what I'm asking is can I make sure my deleted web data is REALLY deleted with Ubuntu?
[19:06] <e01> darthanubis: i will research it, looks interesting
[19:07] <darthanubis> it aint bad
[19:08] <darthanubis> I used to run it on it's own machine
[19:08] <darthanubis> switched to pfsense though
[19:08] <lotuspsychje_> Remoboth_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/57572/how-to-delete-files-in-secure-manner
[19:09] <Remoboth_> lotuspsychje_- Thanks.
[19:10] <Remoboth_> I think I am going to switch over to Lubuntu from LXLE.
[19:10] <Remoboth_> LXLE is nice but it seems a bit buggy.
[19:10] <Remoboth_> I like the LXDE interface, though.
[19:19] <sibaar> fh
[19:19] <sibaar> dfrg
[19:19] <sibaar> gagg
[19:20] <lotuspsychje_> !test | sibaar
[19:21] <sibaar> What is going on? I apologize for that noise. An accident.
[19:21] <Remoboth_> Anyone here use Linux Lite?
[19:21] <sibaar> That exists?
[19:21] <Remoboth_> It is an Ubuntu based distro...
[19:21] <Remoboth_> Windows-like.
[19:21] <sibaar> Now I know!
[19:21] <hypernova> i use ubuntu
[19:21] <Remoboth_> I used it briefly but it is ugly.
[19:21] <hypernova> 15.04 vivid veret
[19:22] <sibaar> Elementary is really pretty.
[19:23] <ioria> pretty != working
[19:24] <bmagis> i am using 14.04 and i installed the 3.19 kernels when i do apt-get dist-upgrade it wants to move me back to the 3.16 branch
[19:25] <bmagis> i don't want to exclude those packages i want to pull updates from the correct place
[19:38] <hypernova> quick question whats the easyest way to change defualt programs in ubuntu 15.04??
[19:43] <SchrodingersScat> hypernova: I have a 'preferred applications' in my settings
[19:44] <minimec> hypernova: http://www.howtogeek.com/117709/how-to-change-your-default-applications-on-ubuntu-4-ways/
[19:47] <Kleggas> Hi. Anyon know if there is any on-screen keyboard that has split-keys like in all android, ios, windows8? I like onboard, but it sucks when your tab got 12" screen.....
[19:51] <ArkansasOWL> Greetings, any tar command experts in here?
[19:52] <MonkeyDust> ArkansasOWL ask your question and wait
[19:52] <hypernova> theres 1739 linux geeks here
[19:53] <hypernova> im sure one of them most likely knows the answer to your question
[19:53] <ArkansasOWL> Will this command work? tar -cvpzf backup-$(date +%Y-%m-%d) /sourcedir/ /backupdir/
[19:53] <popey> depends what you think it should do :)
[19:53] <Kleggas> have you tried it? :)
[19:54] <ArkansasOWL> not yet. it's a very large directory. just want to be safe
[19:54] <henry8989> hello i just did an ndis driver isntall on kubuntu and it says that the device and driver are both present but it will not let me configure the network it says network manager not installed
[19:54] <MonkeyDust> ArkansasOWL then try it first with a small directory
[19:54] <ArkansasOWL> will do thanks
[19:55] <SchrodingersScat> ArkansasOWL: would you want something like tar -cvpzf "/backupdir/backup-$(date +%Y-%m-%d).tar" /sourcedir/ ? like other said, test with some example directories
[19:56] <hkrrsx> henry8989: sudo apt-get install network-manager
[19:57] <henry8989> it will work even for kubuntu
[19:57] <hkrrsx> Or perhaps network-manager-kde
[19:58] <threesixes> the kde frontend is "networkmanagement"
[20:01] <henry8989> i did that but ndis says cannot find network configuration tool
[20:01] <henry8989> now
[20:03] <rypervenche> ArkansasOWL: Just FYI, date +%F is the same as date +%Y-%m-%d :)
[20:04] <ArkansasOWL> I see that. I found the right command. thanks for all your help
[20:04] <almark> ArkansasOWL what do you want with the /backupdir/ directory ?
[20:05] <administ1ator> has anyone used or worked with openstack
[20:06] <ArkansasOWL> it worked with tar -cvpzf /backupdir/backup-$(date+%Y-%m-%d).tar.gz sourcedir/
[20:06] <ArkansasOWL> backup to directory needs to be specified first , then the sourcedir as a last path parameter
[20:07] <BBLLCC> hi, on firefox i "refreshed" it. Now all my bookmarks are gone, and the configurationas well
[20:07] <BBLLCC> can i revert that?
[20:07] <MonkeyDust> administ1ator type /j #openstack
[20:08] <EriC^^> BBLLCC: do you have a backup of your /home?
[20:08] <BBLLCC> my home directory was not affected
[20:09] <BBLLCC> i dont understand what my home directory has to do with the config of ff
[20:09] <EriC^^> the config is in your home dir
[20:09] <MonkeyDust> BBLLCC your /home has hidden .config/ folder
[20:10] <MonkeyDust> has a*
[20:10] <BBLLCC> found that hidden directory. I dont find a firefox subdirectory though
[20:11] <MonkeyDust> BBLLCC mozilla
[20:11] <bodhi_zazen> BBLLCC, LOL
[20:11] <bodhi_zazen> .mozilla
[20:11] <henry8989> how do i install the ndis network configuration tool in kubuntu
[20:11] <EriC^^> BBLLCC: it's in ~/.mozilla
[20:11] <ses1984> i'm trying to connect to a vpn, through network connections dialog. i have added a vpn connection. then when i left click on the tray icon > vpn connections > and click on it, nothing happens
[20:11] <ses1984> this was working a few days ago
[20:11] <bodhi_zazen> henry8989, same as any other version of fedora - dnf || yum install ....
[20:11] <BBLLCC> ok. im now in /.mozilla/firefox
[20:11] <BBLLCC> now what?
[20:12] <bodhi_zazen> BBLLCC, LOL cp backup_home/.mozilla ~/ -Rf
[20:12] <MonkeyDust> BBLLCC drop the lol please
[20:12] <MonkeyDust> bodhi_zazen ^^^^
[20:12] <BBLLCC> i didnt loled so far
[20:12] <henry8989> but im not using fedora im using kubuntu
[20:13] <BBLLCC> ill try what bodhi_zazen suggested
[20:13] <BBLLCC> and hope it works
[20:14] <BBLLCC> cp: cannot stat ‘backup_home/.mozilla’: No such file or directory
[20:14] <bodhi_zazen> henry8989, sorry sudo apt-get install ...
[20:15] <bodhi_zazen> BBLLCC, where did you backup your home directory ?
[20:15] <henry8989> ty whats the package name
[20:16] <BBLLCC> bodhi_zazen, ok, now I understand why I did have to backup that directory
[20:16] <acro458> why does [C-Z] match small m ..........
[20:16] <BBLLCC> and no, I didnt back it up
[20:16] <BBLLCC> i just read the notice "do you wish to refresh firefox"? and clicked Yes
[20:16] <bodhi_zazen> ouch
[20:17] <acro458> [a-z] matches D ....
[20:18] <acro458> so everything these books say about linux is wrong?? ...
[20:18] <lala> Hello I'm currently using a Mac. I've downloaded the .iso file from the Ubuntu website. I'm trying to figure out a way to burn the .iso file onto a CD.
[20:19] <bodhi_zazen> henry8989, ndisgtk http://packages.ubuntu.com/vivid/ndisgtk
[20:19] <Ben64> acro458: would help if you explained what you're doing and whats happening
[20:19] <acro458> why does echo [e-F]* return nothing, but echo [d-F]* returns Desktop Documents Downloads......
[20:19] <BBLLCC> bodhi_zazen, is there salvation for me?
[20:19] <henry8989> ty
[20:19] <acro458> echo [a-z]* retuens Documents Downloads Pictures Templates Videos
[20:20] <acro458> echo [C-a]* returns nothing
[20:20] <BBLLCC> wait
[20:20] <BBLLCC> all bookmarks are there
[20:20] <BBLLCC> strange...
[20:21] <satelite> how do i uninstall tomcat7 on 14.04? i have used command 'sudo apt-get purge tomcat7' and 'sudo apt-get remove tomcat7', and both times the terminal tells me that it cant uninstall tomcat7 becuase its not installed, but i can very clearly see the tomcat7 folders in nautilus
[20:21] <EriC^^> acro458: try ls | grep ^[A-Z]
[20:22] <mgolisch> satelite: maybe you installed it by other means than the package manager?
[20:22] <mgolisch> satelite: also where do you see those folders
[20:22] <BBLLCC> addons are all gone...
[20:22] <henry8989> ok but when i click configure network in the ndis gui it says cannot find network configuration tool
[20:23] <acro458> I don't want another way of getting it to work, I want to know why it isnt working like its supposed to :(
[20:23] <Ben64> acro458: what are you trying to do
[20:23] <acro458> scroll up
[20:23] <lala> Hello?
[20:23] <BBLLCC> what is asterisk? its consuming 85% of my cpu
[20:23] <Bromgard> Hello, guys
[20:23] <Ben64> acro458: that shows some weird stuff you're doing, what are you trying to accomplish with that
[20:24] <acro458> Learning linux basics...
[20:24] <satelite> mgolisch, i installed with the instructions found here: http://bit.ly/1ceF3Lv
[20:24] <acro458> three books said this is how it works....so far the books are wrong
[20:25] <acro458> [A-Z]* should NOT match small m
[20:25] <Ben64> acro458: it doesn't
[20:25] <tomreyn> acro458: shell globbing does not understand reverse lists, i.e. C(BAzxy...cb)a wwon't work
[20:25] <satelite> mgolisch, and i see the tomcat7 folders in /usr/share/tomcat7 and in /etc/tomcat7
[20:25] <tomreyn> this was in response to <acro458> echo [C-a]* returns nothing
[20:25] <salko> unable to locate package
[20:25] <acro458> why does [A-Z]* include small m?
[20:26] <Ben64> acro458: it doesn't
[20:26] <mgolisch> satelite: hm did you uninstall it allready?
[20:26] <chalcedny> my husband's ubuntu 14.04 is having some weird problems. we don't think it's the hd. "Maximum number of clients reached" and won't let him open thunderbird or hexchat
[20:26] <acro458> oh it definitely does
[20:26] <chalcedny> that error hasn't been written about for a while in ubuntuforums
[20:26] <Ben64> acro458: try this - echo "abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ" | grep -o [A-Z]
[20:26] <Ben64> see if 'm' is returned
[20:27] <acro458> echo [A-Z]* returns a text file: myfile
[20:27] <satelite> mgolisch, i have typed the remove command into the terminal, but it had no effect, and i havent found any useful info searching online yet
[20:27] <EriC^^> acro458: i guess it has to do with regular expressions vs bash expansion
[20:27] <mgolisch> acro458: does shopt -p have nocaseglob enabled?
[20:27] <EriC^^> acro458: echo will be using bash expansion, whereas grep uses regular expressions
[20:27] <owen1> ubuntu 15.04. how to permanently switch caps lock to be esc from the terminal? is xmodmap still the way to do that?
[20:28] <hkrrsx> chalcedny: Did you install LastPass recently ?
[20:28] <chalcedny> hkrrsx, no
[20:28] <satelite> mgolisch, it tells me that tomcat7 is an unrecognized service, so i guess its uninstalled, but its files are still on my comp?
[20:29] <hkrrsx> chalcedny: Not as a Chrome extensioni either?
[20:29] <salko> unable to locate package to remove software help pls
[20:29] <mgolisch> satelite: probably because it containes files created after the installation
[20:29] <chalcedny> hkrrsx, hes a firefox guy
[20:29] <chalcedny> the one thing we did see is he uses a screensaver switcher
[20:29] <satelite> mgolisch, so could I/should I just straight up delete them?
[20:30] <hkrrsx> chalcedny: What happens if you turn off that screensaver switcher?
[20:30] <hkrrsx> Also, did the problem start immediately after installing / setting up that switcher ?
[20:30] <chalcedny> hkrrsx, he hasn't tried that yet
[20:30] <chalcedny> he likes it a lot
[20:30] <hkrrsx> chalcedny: Would you ask him to shut it off for testing purposes?
[20:31] <chalcedny> let me go tell him hkrrsx
[20:31] <chalcedny> er can it be done remotely?
[20:31] <chalcedny> hkrrsx, he's asleep
[20:32] <hkrrsx> chalcedny: Ask him when he wakes
[20:32] <rypervenche> acro458: glob expansion vs regex :)
[20:33] <chalcedny> hkrrsx, okies thanks :)
[20:33] * hkrrsx bows with respect
[20:33] <chalcedny> :)
[20:35] <sixunhuit> what is this?
[20:35] <sixunhuit> Jun 27 16:09:01 sjkdf66237 CRON[3518]: (root) CMD ( [ -x /usr/lib/php5/maxlifetime ] && [ -x /usr/lib/php5/sessionclean ] && [ -d /var/lib/php5 ] && /usr/lib/php5/sessionclean /var/lib/php5 $(/usr/lib/php5/maxlifetime))
[20:35] <EriC^^> sixunhuit: a cron job that ran
[20:35] <dawciobiel> Is it possible and worth it to increase I/O disk cache/buffer on LAN ubuntu server (14.04) to get better performance serving samba large (700 - 8 GB) files for read/write?
[20:36] <sixunhuit> so its couldn't be the cause of a system freeze?
[20:36] <EriC^^> it's not an error, it's unlikely it caused the crash, but it could still be
[20:37] <EriC^^> sixunhuit: check dmesg
[20:37] <salko> heloooooooooooooooooo
[20:38] <musclez> hello beautiful ubuntites
[20:38] <sixunhuit> I had to restart, so should I check the current one or the most recent backup?
[20:39] <Mr777> Hello
[20:39] <g3trans> hello
[20:40] <sixunhuit> I also have a lot of ath5k in kern.log (like 7 in a row)
[20:40] <g3trans> Hello peoples, is this the right place for ubuntu search and rescue? :D
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[20:42] <SchrodingersScat> !ops | omlet
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[20:42] <g3trans> :o
[20:43] <g3trans> any actual humans here ? :d
[20:43] <SchrodingersScat> g3trans: this is a game?
[20:43] <g3trans> O.o
[20:43] <g3trans> no lol
[20:43] <g3trans> I came here though the ubuntu community page
[20:43] <SchrodingersScat> g3trans: k, that's what came up with a google search, what does ubuntu search and rescue mean?
[20:43] <g3trans> that im stuck and need help :D
[20:44] <SchrodingersScat> !ask | g3trans
[20:44] <SchrodingersScat> !info searchandrescue
[20:44] <Ben64> g3trans: explain your issue in as much detail as possible, pastebin anything that will be many lines, and wait for a response
[20:44] <g3trans> Okay, one minute.
[20:45] <henry8989> hey i finally got my ndis networking setup and working properly for my wireless adapter thanks for the help
[20:45] <henry8989> :-)
[20:46] <sergio-br2> trying to build a package with -O3, cmake, but for some reason debuild is overwriting the -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Release
[20:46] <sergio-br2> putting -O2 in the build
[20:46] <bodhi_zazen> sergio-br2, check the patches
[20:46] <hypernova> hurm
[20:46] <sergio-br2> there's no patch
[20:46] <hypernova> does anyone here play minecraft on ubuntu??
[20:46] <deadeyeduncan> hi guys
[20:47] <deadeyeduncan> whats up
[20:47] <deadeyeduncan> im new to unbuntu
[20:47] <sergio-br2> If I build with cmake and make, there's only -O3
[20:47] <sergio-br2> but with debuild, there's a -O2 too
[20:48] <deadeyeduncan> my volume seems to be more quiet since i installed ubuntu
[20:48] <deadeyeduncan> anyone else have this problem
[20:48] <EriC^^> i do
[20:48] <deadeyeduncan> whats up with that
[20:48] <EriC^^> which laptop?
[20:48] <deadeyeduncan> hp smarttouch
[20:49] <EriC^^> hp pavilion g6 here
[20:49] <g3trans> I am running Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS on raspberry pi2, I am unable to connect to wireless or ethernet, I can see wlan0 but my next step was to check /etc/network/interfaces but I have no etc/network folder. Any help would be appreciated.
[20:49] <deadeyeduncan> linux is cool though i want to learn how to fully customize it
[20:49] <SchrodingersScat> hypernova: sure, you having issues?
[20:50] <EriC^^> deadeyeduncan: i sometimes crank the volume up with "paman" it's better
[20:50] <deadeyeduncan> paman?
[20:51] <EriC^^> yeah, it's a program
[20:51] <hhee> fsf
[20:51] <deadeyeduncan> ill look it up
[20:51] <bodhi_zazen> sergio-br2, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11072724/how-to-override-dpkg-buildflags-cflags
[20:52] <BlueShark> Hi, how can I troubleshoot why Network Manager doesn't trigger the script I have added in /etc/network/if-up.d/?
[20:52] <deadeyeduncan> shiz
[20:52] <deadeyeduncan> how do i scroll up
[20:52] <deadeyeduncan> lol
[20:52] <EriC^^> pageup
[20:52] <deadeyeduncan> ty
[20:52] <BlueShark> The file name does not have '.sh' in it (as per the docs) and the permission was set to +x. Still, it doesn't work.
[20:53] <deadeyeduncan> sweet thanks
[20:53] <EriC^^> np
[20:53] <deadeyeduncan> found it in the software center
[20:53] <deadeyeduncan> anything else handy for newbies?
[20:53] <hkrrsx> BlueShark: Try ' bash /path/to/file/without.sh ' ?
[20:54] <sergio-br2> thanks bodhi_zazen
[20:54] <BlueShark> hkeide: Okay. Does the script need to have a shebang?
[20:54] <hkrrsx> It should, yeah
[20:55] <BlueShark> #!/bin/sh or #!/bin/bash ?
[20:55] <musclez> yo eric^^, i'm gonna make a memtest boot disk per TJ-'s advice last night.. but could you maybe help me where we left off? the last thing that we did was see if " type ls -l /var/lib/dpkg/statoverride provided any information" and i got " " root root ### may 1...
[20:55] <EriC^^> deadeyeduncan: depends on what you want
[20:55] <EriC^^> customizing the desktop?
[20:55] <deadeyeduncan> i want to be able to customi-
[20:55] <deadeyeduncan> yeah
[20:55] <hkrrsx> BlueShark: I generally see #!/bin/sh
[20:55] <musclez> sorry i was still editing that... but the idea is there
[20:55] <g3trans> Anyone got any tips for me? about setting up network?
[20:56] <EriC^^> compizconfig-settings-manager , conky ...
[20:56] <EriC^^> !themes | deadeyeduncan
[20:56] <EriC^^> deadeyeduncan: unity-tweak-tool
[20:57] <deadeyeduncan> thanks
[20:57] <EriC^^> np
[21:00] <deadeyeduncan> so i downloaded paman but i dont see where i can pull up the manager lol
[21:00] <BlueShark> hkrrsx: No, that didn't work, either.
[21:00] <hkrrsx> BlueShark: What happened?
[21:00] <BlueShark> hkrrsx: The script wasn't executed.
[21:00] <EriC^^> deadeyeduncan: type paman in a terminal
[21:00] <deadeyeduncan> ok
[21:00] <deadeyeduncan> oh man
[21:00] <deadeyeduncan> this terminal is awesome
[21:00] <hkrrsx> BlueShark: What error did you get?
[21:01] <BlueShark> hkrrsx: I did not get any errors. When I run the script individually, it works perfectly. But I want it to be executed when the Internet is back (i.e. reconnected).
[21:02] <hkrrsx> BlueShark: Sorry, that's beyond my pay grade ..... dunno, brutha
[21:02] <BlueShark> That's okay - thank you for trying to help! Appreciate it, hkrrsx.
[21:03] <hkrrsx> You're welcome
[21:06] <deadeyeduncan> paman is awesome
[21:06] <deadeyeduncan> thanks
[21:06] <deadeyeduncan> fixed my issue
[21:06] <EriC^^> cool
[21:10] <Hanumaan> getting following error for python-hunspell in Ubunt 14.04 seems to be problem with package .. for some information please look this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11785268/
[21:10] <lala> Does anyone know how to use Clonezilla?
[21:10] <lala> Or does anyone recommend any alternatives to Clonezilla?
[21:11] <lala> I would like to manage my server similar to how I can make snapshots on my virtual machine.
[21:12] <EriC^^> deadeyeduncan: if you use the lower source i find it gets higher without cracking
[21:12] <EriC^^> the one that has a # and a number
[21:13] <mcphail> lala: If you're brave enough to use btrfs on a server, it has snapshots built-in
[21:13] <EriC^^> i mean sink deadeyeduncan
[21:14] <lala> mcphail: Is it easy to set up?
[21:14] <rypervenche> lala: What is your ultimate goal in snapshots?
[21:16] <lala> rypervenche: My ultimate goal is... say if I make some changes to the server... (for example, I added more packages and I wanted to test them out and I found that I no longer needed them, and I don't want to go through the mess of cleaning the OS to make sure no traces and extra junk is left behind, simply to keep the system very clean and also to manage it
[21:16] <lala> so that I can go back to a snapshot in case if I ended up changing stuff unintentionally).
[21:16] <deadeyeduncan> sink?
[21:16] <rypervenche> lala: Did you install using LVM?
[21:16] <lala> rypervenche: Yes.
[21:16] <rypervenche> lala: LVM supports snapshots. You can create a snapshot using that.
[21:17] <lala> rypervenche: Ubuntu Server 14.04.2 LTS with LVM using the entire disk.
[21:17] <rypervenche> lala: You will need to shrink your file system to add space to your VG (volume group) and then you can make snapshots and even mount them while the system is running.
[21:17] <lala> rypervenche: Is the LVM method cleaner and easier to use?
[21:17] <lala> rypervenche: Okay. I'm sold. Where are the tutorials to set this up?
[21:18] <EriC^^> deadeyeduncan: yeah, in paman, when you go to devices
[21:18] <rypervenche> lala: I can take a look online and see if I can find anything that looks good.
[21:18] <lala> rypervenche: Okie dokie.
[21:19] <EriC^^> deadeyeduncan: how did you fix the volume in paman?
[21:21] <deadeyeduncan> i just went to playback
[21:21] <deadeyeduncan> put it all the way up
[21:21] <deadeyeduncan> and put upt he main volume some
[21:21] <deadeyeduncan> out output
[21:22] <EriC^^> paman is different here i guess
[21:22] <EriC^^> paman or pavucontrol?
[21:26] <deadeyeduncan> pulse audio manageer
[21:26] <deadeyeduncan> but its what came up in software center when i typed in paman
[21:30] <blib> how do I get ubuntu 14.04 installer with a kernel version > 3.19 or better 4.0.6?
[21:31] <bnrf> blib: Why?
[21:32] <Bashing-om> blib: I could be wrong, but, 3.19 will not be available in the installer til the .3 release . Maybe install the kernel in the existing install ?
[21:33] <blib> I can't install it on a nuc intel
[21:33] <bnrf> the kernel stack is the closest supported
[21:33] <Blaster> Hey ya'll I'm trying to get bluetooth working on Ubuntu 14.10, and when I open the Bluetooth dialog, it just continuously says searching for devices even though I have 2 devices near my computer that are discoverable. Any advice?
[21:33] <blib> the installer hangs - intel guys say, they don't support anything below 3.19
[21:33] <Blaster> My motherboard (Asus Z87-Pro) has onboard bluetooth and wifi which both aren't working.
[21:35] <almark> bluetooth still sortof sucks on linux
[21:35] <almark> what's the wifi chipster Blaster ?
[21:35] <almark> chipset
[21:36] <Blaster> almark: @p548326A8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #ubuntu
[21:36] <Blaster> Whoops...
[21:36] <bnrf> blib: You can install what you want ir need, it is an issue of support at times here is all, you gotta know what your doing really. No releases as you want as of now.
[21:36] <Blaster> AR9462 Wireless Network Adapter
[21:37] <BBLLCC> what is spoofing?
[21:37] <BBLLCC> .w spoofing
[21:37] <bodhi_zazen> BBLLCC, in what context ?
[21:37] <bmagis> blib: you can download the packages from here http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ and install them with dpkg
[21:37] <BBLLCC> i have been asked if i wish to enable that
[21:38] <bodhi_zazen> Asked by who / what ?
[21:38] <kostkon> BBLLCC, spoof what exactly
[21:40] <almark> does it show up in dmesg Blaster ?
[21:41] <Blaster> almark: What should I grep for in that list?
[21:41] <Blaster> I see this line: [ 4.292084] ieee80211 phy0: Atheros AR9462 Rev:2 mem=0xffffc90005d00000, irq=17
[21:41] <jhutchins> Blaster: That suggests that the driver isn't loading.
[21:41] <Blaster> jhutchins, what suggests that?
[21:41] <jhutchins> Blaster: The fact that the dialog doesn't find it.
[21:42] <jhutchins> Blaster: lspci -nn might be of interest too. I don't think 802.11 is Bluetooth.
[21:42] <jhutchins> Blaster: Yeah, that's wifi.
[21:43] <b1001> Hi guys.. How can I emulate/simulate a USB device (keyboard or w/e) being inserted.
[21:43] <Blaster> jhutchins, here's the output from lspci -nn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11785392/
[21:43] <jhutchins> Blaster: Bluetooth is 802.15
[21:43] <Blaster> Alright.
[21:44] <Blaster> How can I find which kernel version I have? I just read on askubuntu that bluetooth support is limited for my mobo on < 3.14.x
[21:44] <almark> uname -a
[21:44] <b1001> Blaster: uname -a
[21:45] <Blaster> Hmm I have 3.16.0-39-generic
[21:46] <jhutchins> Blaster: Oops, wrong terminal, that one doesn't have bluetooth. Still chacking.
[21:48] <kostkon> Blaster, does rfkill list list your bluetooth device
[21:48] <Blaster> kostkon, I see this line: 0: hci0: Bluetooth
[21:48] <jhutchins> Blaster: I was just going to suggest rfkill. I don't see mine in my pci list.
[21:49] <Blaster> I have a feeling I don't have the drivers installed, but I'm not sure if they're even existent. These are onboard WIFI and bluetooth on my z87-pro mobo with an AR9462 Wireless Network Adapter chipset.
[21:50] <almark> Blaster what does ifconfig show?
[21:50] <jhutchins> Blaster: Is it blocked?
[21:50] <Blaster> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11785414/
[21:50] <abkabkabk> any1 got a log viewer that has tabs, ie if my app prints [debug] msg1 its in tab 1, and if it prints [network] its in tab2? is this possible?
[21:50] <Blaster> Both show blocked: no
[21:51] <almark> Blaster what if you try this sudo ifconfig wlan0 up ?
[21:52] <Blaster> SIOCSIFFLAGS: Operation not possible due to RF-kill
[21:52] <jhutchins> !bluetooth
[21:53] <vbgunz> what program switchs screens/monitors found in xorg.conf?
[21:53] <jhutchins> almark: I thought he was trying to get bluetooth working, not wifi.
[21:53] <almark> hmmm
[21:53] <Blaster> Both are broken, but I'm more concerned about bluetooth than wifi right now.
[21:53] <jhutchins> vbgunz: xrandr
[21:53] <almark> i thought he was interested in getting both working jhutchins
[21:54] <Blaster> ^
[21:54] <vbgunz> xrandr really? I know I can change monitor settings using xrandr but there is supposed to be another program that goes into xorg.conf and uses what's found there
[21:54] <vbgunz> let me check really quick
[21:55] <vbgunz> I don't think it's xrandr I'm looking for
[21:56] <Blaster> So I should install bluez python-gobject and python-dbus to get bluetooth working as recommended in BluetoothSetup doc?
[21:57] <vbgunz> man, I'm looking for something and it's not xrandr. it's a program that utilizes xorg.conf in real time and I believe it's a primitive/archaic/ancient program that already comes in Ubuntu. I just forgot the name :/
[21:58] <vbgunz> I think it might be xinit
[22:01] <jhutchins> Blaster: You might also try aptitude search blue and see if anything likely is missing.
[22:05] <Blaster> Ugh still stuck. Don't see anything there jhutchins, and I already have all the packages installed as recommended by the BluetoothSetup document.
[22:06] <Blaster> Just hangs at "Searching for devices..."
[22:07] <Blaster> I want to upgrade to Ubuntu latest anyways. Maybe I should just update now and see if it helps this problem.
[22:12] <Blaster> Did I miss anything? Restarted my PC.
[22:12] <musclez> +
[22:12] <bnrf> just elavus
[22:12] <bnrf> elvis*
[22:13] <Johnny_Linux> musclez , did you get things going ??
[22:13] <musclez> i was tying to backtrack and maybe work on it alone.. i dont really know where we left off there are no kernels on my system now
[22:14] <Johnny_Linux> wow
[22:14] <musclez> i was going to attempt to install 3.16.0.40, but i cant get the drives to mount the way we were yesterday
[22:14] <musclez> im just backtracking the logs now, these guys rebuilt my boot drive but we kind of stopped in the middle of the hwole thing
[22:14] <Johnny_Linux> bummer
[22:15] <dadis> Hey i got a hot girl coming over, can i use ubuntu to repair a windows partition?
[22:15] <Johnny_Linux> some one will come up with something
[22:15] <dadis> http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/fix-corrupted-windows-ntfs-filesystem-ubuntu/ found it
[22:16] <Johnny_Linux> shes a man eater
[22:16] <musclez> i dont really undestand how it got this far, i didnt do anything crazy im not an advance user by any degree.. what i initally did to get here seems to be just rudimentary unistalling of old things
[22:18] <Bashing-om> musclez: I would think the 1st order of business is to get the current booting terminal re-installed. What are we working with ? ' cat etc/issue ; uname -r ; dpkg -l | grep linux- ' .
[22:18] <Dead_Eye_Duncan> yo
[22:19] <Dead_Eye_Duncan> i need some help
[22:19] <Dead_Eye_Duncan> i changed something in unity tweak
[22:19] <Dead_Eye_Duncan> and now my terminal has text that overlaps and it just looks bad
[22:21] <allizom> hi people, where should I be looking at when a computer (running 14.04) boots fine up to the login greeter, then blacks out soon after you enter your password and press enter? It's not mine, but they told me the only last thing they remember doing is installing updates. I can get a tty working
[22:22] <allizom> i forgot, it happens with every user
[22:22] <newbie|4> maybe a problem with video driver ?
[22:23] <musclez> bashing-om: http://termbin.com/tldp http://termbin.com/obkk
[22:23] <allizom> newbie|4: don't know, it's got an nvidia and it was using the proprietary drivers. I tried switching to nouveau with no luck
[22:24] <musclez> bashing-om: http://termbin.com/0nja
[22:24] <abkabkabk> any1 know how to use multitail? i just need stuff with [error] in 1 tab and everything else in the other tab
[22:24] <Bashing-om> musclez: Lokk'n . I be back !
[22:25] <abkabkabk> dats right, loki rides again!
[22:26] <bazhang> wrong channel for that abkabkabk
[22:26] <abkabkabk> well theres no multitail chan
[22:27] <abkabkabk> im tryin to printf me some buckets of cashola
[22:28] <musclez> bashing-om: i beleive that the uname -r readout pertains to the version of linux being used on the boot usb.. i am using a boot-reapir-disk live usb
[22:28] <bazhang> !ot | abkabkabk
[22:28] <musclez> is there any way for me to get a readout of my logs in theis chat?
[22:28] <bnrf> allizom: Propietary's do not follow kernel upgrades at times, needs them reinstalled most likeley.
[22:28] <bazhang> !1984
[22:29] <bazhang> musclez, see above
[22:29] <musclez> of just me and mentions of my name though, not the entire channel
[22:31] <Bashing-om> musclez: OK, the -32 kernel had me going . Booting the liveUSB gives another slant on things. What is the result when attempting to boot the install ? Shall we "look" at what kernels are in the install ?
[22:31] <musclez> ther are no kenels or memtest in the boot
[22:32] <allizom> bnrf: Shouldn't the default greeter have issues too if it's a GPU drivers hiccup? that shows fine at maximum resolution
[22:32] <musclez> we tried "apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-generic" and it crashed
[22:32] <VCoolio> close
[22:32] <musclez> i was goign to attpemt 'apt-get install linux-image3.16.0.40-generic' that was the last known working version
[22:33] <bnrf> allizom: No idea, I've had intel, just a guess, most likely since there have been kernrl upgrades as of late.
[22:33] <vary> could someone help me, I want to know if there's a way to create a partition, and make a windows 7 iso bootable using Ubuntu
[22:34] <vary> bootable from the partition*
[22:34] <Bashing-om> musclez: Let's do look, and consider a CHange Root to the install and install the -55 kernel ? What are the hard drive(s) identified as ' sudo fdisk -lu ' . Then we mount and have a looksee .
[22:35] <bnrf> vary: THumb drive yes
[22:35] <musclez> bashing-om: after the reinstall failed the last thing i was advised to do was check ls -l /var/lib/dpkg/statoverride
[22:35] <allizom> bnrf: the point is, I'm not sure at all it's a video card thing, because also with nouveau (assuming I switched them right) I have the same issue. Oh, and I should add that startx from the tty shows me a working desktop, but Unity doesn't run
[22:35] <Dead_Eye_Duncan> can someone help me
[22:35] <Bozza> usb 1-1: New USB device found,
[22:36] <Bozza> i get that messages in dmesg
[22:36] <bnrf> allizom: Have you tried previous kernels?
[22:36] <Bozza> does that mean it is a usb 1.1 device? usb 1-1: New USB device found,
[22:36] <Dead_Eye_Duncan> i was customizing my desktop in unity tweak and my terminal's font overlaps itself
[22:36] <Dead_Eye_Duncan> and looks bad
[22:36] <Dead_Eye_Duncan> im not sure how i did it because i changed my font and its still the same
[22:36] <vary> I have a bootable DVD with windows 7 on it, and a bootable USB Drive with windows 7 on it. However, when no operating system is installed on the computer, my keyboard does not work to boot from the dvd/usb
[22:36] <musclez> bashing om: eric^^ http://termbin.com/gqjc
[22:37] <vary> and with ubuntu installed I can not connect to the internet and even when booting from HDD is disabled, the computer still boots Ubuntu
[22:37] <bnrf> vary: Laptop or desktop?
[22:37] <vary> Desktop, it's a friend's
[22:37] <allizom> bnrf: do you think starting an older kernel from GRUB advanced options menu would do for a test?
[22:38] <bnrf> vary: Very loose and I mean loose description, not really understandable here.
[22:38] <musclez> bashging-om : http://termbin.com/pcin
[22:38] <bnrf> allizom: No, from the grub menu.
[22:38] <vary> Friend fucked his windows 7 - fucked up installing fresh version too. Now windows 7 won't install from CD/DVD So I've temporarily put ubuntu on there
[22:39] <vary> now: When I try to install windows 7 from the dvd/usb
[22:39] <bnrf> allizom: If the previous kernel works, it is likely a graphic issue tied to a kernel upgrade.
[22:39] <bazhang> no cursing here vary
[22:39] <vary> oh ok, my bad
[22:39] <Bozza> does that mean it is a usb 1.1 device? usb 1-1: New USB device found,
[22:39] <Bozza> in dmesg
[22:39] <Bozza> i get this
[22:39] <vary> When I try to install windows 7 from usb/dvd with ubuntu installed, it still boots to ubuntu even though I changed boot order and even disabled booting to hdd
[22:40] <Bashing-om> musclez: I do not know what to make of that file's existence . Additional info please 'file var/lib/dpkg/statoverride ' . Let's see if we can peek into it .
[22:40] <vary> When I try to install windows 7 from usb/dvd with no operating system installed, the keyboard will not work during the 'press any key to boot from USB/DVD'
[22:40] <bazhang> vary that sounds like a windows installer issue
[22:40] <bazhang> try ##windows for that vary
[22:41] <Bashing-om> musclez: Yuk, are you encrypted ? GPT partitioning requires a different tool than 'fdsik' show ' sudo parted -l ' .
[22:42] <allizom> bnrf: the boot entries with older kernels are hidden under Advanced options, I don't understand your previous answer "No, from the grub menu", care to clarify?
[22:42] <musclez> bashing-om: http://termbin.com/tfah
[22:42] <Bozza> does that mean it is a usb 1.1 device? usb 1-1: New USB device found,
[22:42] <bnrf> allizom: sorry I said no when you were at the right place for grub choice, I read it as install an earlier version, my mistake
[22:42] <Bozza> does that mean it is a usb 1.1 device? usb 1-1: New USB device found,
[22:43] <musclez> bahsing-om: http://termbin.com/s5l4
[22:43] <Bozza> in dmesg
[22:43] <OerHeks> vary, check the bios for legacy usb support for your keyboard. check the manual how
[22:43] <Bozza> in dmesg does usb 1-1 mean a usb 1 device????
[22:43] <bazhang> Bozza, clearly yes
[22:44] <vary> OerHeks: tried already
[22:44] <Bashing-om> musclez: A text file . We can look and see . ' cat /var/lib/dpkg/statoverride ' .
[22:45] <Bozza> bazhang: ???
[22:45] <Bozza> are you just guessing?
[22:45] <Bozza> or do you know for sure?
[22:45] <musclez> bashing-om: http://termbin.com/ws7u
[22:46] <Bozza> bazhang: go ahead and type dmesg into terminal
[22:46] <Bozza> after connecting a usb device
[22:46] <Bozza> what does it say?
[22:47] <Bashing-om> musclez: I see nothing in the statoverride file to interfere with a kernel install .
[22:49] <bfig> hello, I need to upgrade wkhtmltopdf and my packages are borked for some reason
[22:49] <musclez> bashing-om: we had to disable soemthing with the dpkg in orger to get it to run without crashing, i wish i could give you more information but i need ot look back t the logs and im having trouble finding stuff
[22:50] <musclez> which kernel do you suggst?
[22:51] <hypernova> bashing om
[22:51] <hypernova> my ubuntu is working fine
[22:51] <Bashing-om> musclez: IF you are not encrypted, we can CHroot into the install from the liveUSB and check/install the -55 kernel ( my mirror does not have the -57 kernel ) .
[22:52] <musclez> i am encrypted
[22:52] <musclez> and i can still chroot into it thats what i am doing right now
[22:52] <Bashing-om> hypernova: Yeah, I "saw" ya ..And I did think ya got it under control . Install as dual boot and from the new install fix the original ?
[22:53] <hypernova> meh
[22:53] <hypernova> that harddrives fucked up
[22:53] <hypernova> it was like 10 years old though
[22:53] <hypernova> i think im just gonna toss it
[22:53] <owen1> ubuntu 15.04. how to permanently switch caps lock to be esc from the terminal? is xmodmap still the way to do that?
[22:53] <Bozza> bazhang: it means bus 01 port 01
[22:53] <Bozza> geez
[22:53] <Bozza> check your facts
[22:53] <hypernova> harddrives are soo cheap
[22:53] <hypernova> people give them to me all the time
[22:53] <hypernova> its only 160 gb
[22:53] <Bashing-om> !language | hypernova Family visits here
[22:58] <Bashing-om> musclez: Are you CHrooted into the install ? What is installed ? ' ls -al /boot '
[22:59] <musclez> bashing-om: http://termbin.com/ksir
[23:03] <Bashing-om> musclez: No "initrd.img-3.13.0-55-generic" file . Lets try ' install linux-image-3.13.0-55-generic linux-headers-3.13.0-55-generic linux-headers-3.13.0-55 ' . See what happens .
[23:03] <Bashing-om> sudo apt-get install musclez
[23:04] <musclez> gotcha
[23:06] <darksb> hello
[23:08] <musclez> bashing-om: pastebin.com/vrtslf7g
[23:09] <jeffrey_f> Having trouble running minecraft on the most recent kernel. Going back to earlier kernel fixes the issue. Minecraft crashes and the user is logged out but a black screen. I can still SSH
[23:11] <allizom> bnrf: I tried booting into an older kernel and reinstalling the nvidia drivers. No luck, as i rebooted into it again the same issue arose
[23:12] <ruedii> Does anyone know how to resolve the dependency hell of dowgrading the LTS-Backports Xorg packages to the normal ones so I can install the updates from X-Edgers?
[23:12] <ruedii> I wish someone would make a nice script to handle it.
[23:14] <Bashing-om> musclez: Humm .. Yeah from some source in the statoverride file . Try commenting out the entries containing "amavis" with the text editor and try again .
[23:28] <AloeVera> hi
[23:30] <Bray90820> Can someone help me make this permanent
[23:30] <Bray90820> sudo modprobe hid_magicmouse scroll-speed=55 scroll-acceleration=1
[23:34] <ol_> cannot get hp printer in Windows 7 to print from ubuntu. Have tried evrything using SAMBA. Got one test page to print a few days ago. Nothing since then. Should I try something other than SAMBA (CUPS)?
[23:36] <mtn> ol_, the printer does not have network capability?
[23:37] <ol_> I can see it in ubuntu and got to print one test page.
[23:37] <musclez> bashing-om: how do i commen tit out?
[23:38] <mtn> ol_, the printer does not have network capability?
[23:39] <Bashing-om> musclez: Kust place the commnet '#" character at the start of the lines. Looking again at the file . I have no idea what the cause is ? Is "amavis" a valid username on that system ?
[23:39] <Bashing-om> kust/just*
[23:40] <musclez> amavis is antivirus sofwatre for a mail server
[23:40] <Bray90820> ol_: your printer is installed on windows 7?
[23:40] <ol_> the printer is shared in Windows and I have been able to install it in ubuntu (Find Network Printer finds it). But HPLIP does not find it.
[23:41] <Bray90820> ol_: can you pn me?
[23:41] <SrRaven> Alrighty than, I need some help it seems. I want to get Postfix/dovecot to work in combination with multiple domains, I used this
[23:41] <ol_> how would I do that?
[23:41] <SrRaven> tutorial https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixVirtualMailBoxClamSmtpHowto but I cant get sasl authentification to work and im
[23:41] <SrRaven> clueless
[23:43] <awesomess3> so I looked at the Ubuntu MATE main page and it showed a picture of a VLC app playing the Avengers: Age of Ultron movie. isn't that illegal?
[23:43] <Bashing-om> musclez: No idea of what we will get into. for now we MUST get a krnel installed. To that end because I do not know any better, comment out all the lines with "amavis" in them .
[23:43] <mgolisch> awesomess3: why?
[23:43] <musclez> bashing-om: i nowget the message "syntax error: invlaid uid in stat overide file"
[23:44] <ikonia> musclez: is it not better to re-install
[23:44] <awesomess3> mgolisch, because Age Of Ultron hasn't come out on DVD yet
[23:44] <ikonia> this has been going on for 48 hours almost
[23:44] <OerHeks> awesomess3, sure, it is a trailer. > trl
[23:44] <ikonia> backup your data an re-install
[23:44] <awesomess3> OerHeks, oooohhh duh. I'm stupid.
[23:44] <ikonia> you'd be done in 20 minutes
[23:44] <mgolisch> awesomess3: trailer?
[23:44] <OerHeks> and see the time :-)
[23:44] <__Myst__> Hey guys
[23:44] <nomic> hi __Myst__
[23:44] <__Myst__> I was wondering... how do I access an USB device?
[23:45] <__Myst__> Hey nomic
[23:45] <__Myst__> Like, through the command line.
[23:45] <nomic> it should access directly
[23:45] <OerHeks> awesomess3, but thanks for the notice, it could be an issue indeed.
[23:45] <nomic> erm ..
[23:45] <nomic> never done it
[23:45] <nomic> you mean "mount" the volume
[23:45] <__Myst__> something like "cd /flashDrive/"
[23:45] <OerHeks> * have been
[23:45] <__Myst__> ye, nomic
[23:45] <nomic> that means you have to mount the usb drive as a volume
[23:45] <nomic> and that should happen autmatically
[23:45] <nomic> the /dev point I think
[23:45] <__Myst__> Go on
[23:46] <nomic> you insert the usb drive and it is automatically recogniseable on either /mnt or /dev
[23:46] <Bashing-om> musclez: Guess it is a field formatted file . And the '#" is unacceptable. Sorry, I do not know how to cope with the 'statoverride' file .
[23:46] <allizom> in case there is an issue with the video card drivers, shouldn't the login greeter be affected too?
[23:46] <nomic> aint used one for a while - hat I used to have was that I could insert the usb drive and the file manager (nautilus) would automatically appear (this is xubuntu)
[23:46] <Bashing-om> musclez: I am doping homework, see what I can learn .
[23:46] <__Myst__> nomic: Yes; but how do I physicall access it?
[23:46] <Bashing-om> doing *
[23:46] <__Myst__> ew nautilius.
[23:46] <ikonia> Bashing-om: this has been going on for 2 days and the same situation over 3 - 4 channels, I would very strongly advise him to backup his data and re-install as this is going-nowhere for 48 hours now
[23:47] <nomic> if it is mounted a s volume is referenced as part of filing system (tree)
[23:47] <musclez> bashing-om: im going to back up the file and delete the amavis lines
[23:47] <nomic> you dislike nautilus?
[23:47] <ikonia> he appears to not want to hear that and just keep repeating the same situation over and over again, so it maybe worth considering advising this
[23:47] <__Myst__> Yeah, nomic.
[23:47] <__Myst__> I mean, I don't dislike it.
[23:47] <nomic> mounting usb should be simple
[23:47] <__Myst__> I just like doing things in the terminal more
[23:48] <nomic> ok
[23:48] <nomic> not sure then , if you do not have a gui
[23:48] <nomic> lsub?
[23:48] <nomic> find the mounted usb devices, reference, mount
[23:48] <nomic> nautilus must do that autmatically
[23:49] <nomic> you are limiting yourself somewhat, in many cases, by using only the command line
[23:49] <musclez> bashing-om: any used that is not root is doe snot accept... amavis was just the first instance
[23:49] <ikonia> musclez: have you considered backup/reinstall/restore your data
[23:49] <nomic> you will find that there is a way to reference usb devices which are plugged into your pc
[23:49] <Bashing-om> musclez: Maybe we can just delete the file ? see: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/can-not-install-new-software-on-my-system-4175422314/ . // Still look'n .
[23:49] <ikonia> musclez: you seem to be struggling with the basics, I think you'll find it much quicker and eaier to backup/restore after install
[23:50] <Bray90820> ol_: I sent you s pm
[23:50] <Bray90820> A pm
[23:50] <nomic> tbh - from what I remember - xubuntu (here), automatically mounts and opens a file explorer, when you plug in a usb drive
[23:51] <nomic> these are not "issues"
[23:55] <Bashing-om> musclez: ^^ ikonia's advise above, And the proper way to remove entries in the file ' sudo dpkg-statoverride --remove <the_path> ' .
[23:55] <ruedii> It looks like I found how to deal with that dependency hell of the lts backports X11 setup. Hopefully it turns out OK. After that I will need to fix my i386 libs then I'll be all set.
[23:55] <musclez> bashing-om: i have that used ignored
[23:55] <ikonia> musclez: you've been at this for 48 hours, and you're not really moving forward
[23:56] <ikonia> have you looked at data backup, re-install, restore
[23:56] <ikonia> you'll be done in 20 minutes + backup/restore time
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[01:41] <^k^> 暂无新帖 讲个笑话吧: 竟然是图片 http://i1.xiaohua.fd.zol-img.com.cn/t_s600x5000/g3/M04/00/08/Cg-4WFI2r6KIXwiMAACpL6BupZcAALrKAJ1P48AAKlH237.jpg 好拉风的美少女萝卜哟
[01:45] <Niac> 好 蛋疼啊 还是没忍住旷班了
[01:46] <Niac> 当一个人犯2 思考人生的时候 他还能做什么呢
[02:51] <GODDOG> 又是一个无聊的周末
[03:22] <^k^> 暂无新帖 讲个笑话吧: 大有进步 : "我们女儿练嗓子大有进步。"肖克太太对朋友说。"是音色提高了吗?""我说的主要是音量。以前只有这一层楼的人来告状,现在附近几幢楼的住户都来诉苦了。"
[04:04] <^k^> 取新帖 timeout
[04:43] <^k^> 新 常用硬件支持 • wubi装好了ubuntu14.04，鼠标延迟严重 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=471479 笔记本是微星ge60 1022，不管是微星送的鼠标还是自己的雷蛇鼠标，移动的时候明显延迟非常厉害，不是鼠标指针速度的问题这个试过了，就是反应慢的问题。想求教一下各位前辈，这是不
[04:43] <^k^> ─> 是驱动的原因所致？网上好像有个外国人写了雷蛇在linux下的驱动，可以调节DPI什么的， …
[05:20] <^k^> 新 系统安装和升级 • 求助，虚拟机装了很多次都没成功 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=471481 在vmware里装了一天都没装好，刚上来不知道选择断网，结果进行到下载文件那里就一直在那里停着，搞了好几次，才知道把网络断掉 正常装完后，提示重启，结果重启后，那个背景图
[05:20] <^k^> ─> 闪过之后，就一直黑屏了 另外，下载的桌面版本ISO为何比普通光盘的容量大一点？标准70 …
[05:31] <^k^> archl: 拜逛逛壕
[05:32] * archl 拜壕们
[05:32] <^k^> archl: ok ACTION => 拜壕们
[05:41] <archl> 。。。
[05:42] <archl> !action
[05:42] <archl> ok ？
[06:17] <sanderson_> 居然有中文频道
[06:17] <gebjgd> sanderson_, 有了好几年了
[06:17] <sanderson_> ......
[06:17] <sanderson_> 今天才知道irc的……
[06:18] <sanderson_> 和别人玩游戏，有个人让我上IRC，我才知道有这个神器
[06:18] <sanderson_> 还有什么中文频道
[06:18] <gebjgd> sanderson_, 闭塞
[06:33] <sennn> 大家好啊
[06:33] <ubrl> sennn:点点点. 02:33
[06:54] <^k^> 暂无新帖 讲个笑话吧: 紧身胸衣 : 小美穿了一款紧身胸衣,在我面前走来走去。我知道怎么回事,我故意不理她。终于她忍不做了,说:"好看吗?" 我说:"好看。" "喜欢吗?" "不喜欢。" "什么?"小美柳眉倒竖。 "脱起来很麻烦！ "
[06:58] <^k^> iMadper: 拜通州房壕
[08:25] <^k^> 新 系统安装和升级 • ubuntu12.04.5无法安装uuid-dev http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=471482 hhi@hhi-ubuntu12:~$sudo apt-get install uuid-dev 正在读取软件包列表... 完成 正在分析软件包的依赖关系树 正在读取状态信息... hh完成 有一些软件包无法被安装。如果您用的是 unstable 发行版，这也许是 因
[08:25] <^k^> ─> 为系统无法达到您要求的状态造成的。该版本中可能会有一些您需要的软件 包尚未被创 …
[08:57] <gfxmode> CentOS的启动盘好像比较难制作，同事刻了4、5张DVD了，都启动不了。。。
[09:01] <^k^> 新 初学者园地 - 15.04 • 每次切换输入法的时候打开Dash，设置的快捷键是Super+空格 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=471487 重装了一次Ubuntu，然后改Fcitx的切换输入法的快捷键，改成了Super+空格……然后就发现这样了…… 每次按Super+空格切换输入法的时候，如果按的快了松开键盘按
[09:01] <^k^> ─> 键的时候会自动弹出来Dash，输入法倒是切了，但是每次都得关Dash真是蛋疼无比……慢慢 …
[09:56] <^k^> 新 系统安装和升级 • 【求助】主板不支持uefi 安装ubuntu15.04 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=471488 笔记本主板不支持uefi，每次u盘引导之后启动安装程序都是以uefi方式启动的，装完不能进入系统，硬盘是固态硬盘，鼓捣了两整天没找到正确的安装方法，明天就要用了，十分着急，
[09:56] <^k^> ─> 希望大神们能帮帮忙。 zz: shf4715 — 2015-06-27 17:54
[09:59] <iMadper> gfxmode: 没这回事...
[10:00] <iMadper> gfxmode: 我以前在redhat当测试, 一天dd好几个u盘出来的时候都有... 没出过问题...
[10:08] <^k^> 逛了一下论坛,暂时无新贴.
[10:12] <iLucky> 有没有像chrome下motivation之类的可以显示年龄的桌面插件？
[11:09] <^k^> 新 桌面特效 • [求助]安装META桌面 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=471490 操作系统：ubuntu 15.04 项目：https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-meta 但是我却不知道如何去安装。哪位大神指点一下。 zz: szyzln — 2015-06-27 19:07
[11:25] <^k^> pity: 拜p姐
[12:49] <^k^> 暂无新帖 讲个笑话吧: 竟然是图片 http://i1.xiaohua.fd.zol-img.com.cn/t_s600x5000/g4/M08/0B/00/Cg-4WlI2sbyIbqG5AADYnMMd5AMAALrVgLuWaIAANi0047.jpg 这帮损友,醉酒后给恶搞成这样了
[13:01] <gfxmode___> iMadper: 嗯 估计是写入ISO文件的方式不对 让他试试CentOS的U盘启动盘了
[14:31] <^k^> 暂无新帖 讲个笑话吧: 减肥"妙诀" : 柯林斯太太向她的女友罗杰斯太太大叹苦经:"我们结婚没多久,我发觉他的脾气太环,整天破口大骂,气得我已经瘦了四磅了。"罗杰斯太太:"这种男人不可理喻,干脆同他离婚算了。"柯林斯太太:"我也是这样打算的,等我减肥到一百磅时,就和他办离婚手
[14:31] <^k^> ─> 续。"
[17:03] <kotomi> 啊哈，用手机连上了
[17:12] <kandu> duyue, gfxmode, happyaron, lainme, yunfan_: 早~
[17:12] <kotomi> ~
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2015-06-27-#ubuntu-app-devel
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[00:48] <Elleo> nik90: those symbolic icons look neat: http://mikeasoft.com/~mike/symbolic-notification.png in the end I had to go with the non-filled one and make it white as the notification area seems to be really strict over how it displays symbolic icons and displays all colours as white
[00:55] <nik90> Elleo: ah ok. Why does it appear mirrored?
[00:56] <nik90> Elleo: can you take a screenshot of it in the messaging indicator
[00:56] <nik90> although that looks good as well
[00:56] <Elleo> nik90: I flipped it horizontally as I thought it looked odd with the parrot looking out of the message instead of into the message
[00:57] <nik90> ah yes true .. on looking closer I realized that
[00:58] <Elleo> http://mikeasoft.com/~mike/notification-area.png
[00:59] <Elleo> it looks pretty cute when the icon wobbles if you click on the notification
[00:59] <nik90> sweet
[04:15] <akiva-thinkpad> nvm; figured it out
[04:20] <akiva-thinkpad> popey: is ubuntuone closed source, and is it still a thing?
[04:20] <akiva-thinkpad> i thought they opensauced it
[04:21] * akiva-thinkpad should know better to wade into kubuntu drama on the /r/linux subreddit
[04:25] <akiva-thinkpad> nvm
[04:25] <akiva-thinkpad> hes just wrong
[11:32] <comutt> Is anyone here?
[12:07] <SturmFlut> comutt: Yeah, but I don't know that much about app development
[12:47] <comutt> I've pulled the bzr branch: ubuntu:php5; After that bzr saied "Most recent Ubuntu version: 5.6.4+dfsg-4ubuntu6", "Packaging branch version: 5.5.0+dfsg-6ubuntu1", "Packaging branch status: OUT-OF-DATE". The latest revision 113 is outdated (year 2013). The procedure is described at http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/udd-getting-the-source.html, but only tarballs are published to Launchpad, not bzr changes.
[12:48] <comutt> Question: Has bzr repository been no longer updated, or hidden, or moved to somewhere?
[14:00] <popey> comutt: what's the issue?
[14:43] <meles> popey the latest version of your youtube app it is not useable without logging in
[14:50] <popey> oh?
[14:51] <popey> works here
[15:00] <ahayzen> popey, sverzegnassi, when i download a document and then select open.. is there any design reason why when it opens the docviewer it doesn't open the document? instead it shows the list of docs and an import notification at the bottom (which is far to short to click on) .. I feel personally if I've said to open the document view content-hub in docview it should open it straight away?
[15:06] <sverzegnassi> ahayzen: o/ at the time we decided to emulate the gallery-app behaviour, which does not open the imported image. I've personally explained this decision saying that docviewer can get an import request for two reasons: 1) a document has been saved from an external app (e.g. a text editor - see EdIt features), 2) the user wants to open a document
[15:07] <sverzegnassi> since we can not get the reason why a document has been imported, we decided for using the same behaviour of gallery-app
[15:07] <ahayzen> sverzegnassi, ok :-) .. well if that behaviour cannot be changed, could the timeout of the import notfication be increased? as i only just had enough time to notice it and partially read it before it disappeared
[15:08] <popey> +1
[15:08] <popey> I agree the notification could be a little longer duration
[15:09] <sverzegnassi> ahayzen: Sure! I've heard many people complaining about the notification, so we need a change... popey, should we ask an opinion to James at the next meeting?
[15:10] <ahayzen> probably just double whatever the value of the timeout is currently would be about right
[15:10] <popey> +1
[15:11] <popey> personally I'd look at how long our system notifcations are on screen and aim for somewhere just under / close to that.
[15:11] <popey> brb
[15:11] <ahayzen> yeah :-)
[15:11] <sverzegnassi> at the moment the duration of the animation is 500ms... it's too short indeed
[15:11] <ahayzen> hah yeah that needs to be at least a few seconds
[15:12] <sverzegnassi> i was joking, it's 2secs
[15:12] <ahayzen> ~5s would probably be what i would expect
[15:12] <sverzegnassi> +1
[15:12] <sverzegnassi> i was thinking at the same number
[15:12] <ahayzen> sverzegnassi, do you want a bug report to track this?
[15:13] <meles> popey I just get the login mask from google. I guess you have a google account set up under system settings -> accounts ?!
[15:13] <sverzegnassi> ahayzen, may be useful for tracking the bugfixes and the changelog... however i'm going to fix it right now
[15:14] <ahayzen> sverzegnassi, hmm up to you, i can report one if you want? or you can just fix it :-)
[15:15] <ahayzen> nik90, your issue with the listitems 1) select all 2) deselect one 3) select all ...works for me with my music-app prototype, so maybe something on your branch?
[15:19] <sverzegnassi> ahayzen, haha... at the moment we can officially track the bug, but I'd wait the next meeting on Thursday for listening what the UX team think about this, because we could seriously consider to open the document automatically
[15:19] <ahayzen> sverzegnassi, ok i'll report one so we can track discussions and ping you the link
[15:19] <sverzegnassi> in the while, I'll push a branch with the fix for the duration, it is just 2 lines...
[15:19] <sverzegnassi> ahayzen ok, thanks
[15:23] <ahayzen> sverzegnassi, bug 1469422
[15:25] <ahayzen> nik90, you have alarmListView.selectedItems.count [15:25] <ahayzen> nik90, ^^ is probably why its not working :-)
[15:28] <sverzegnassi> ahayzen: ok, i will mark ubuntu-ux as affected
[15:29] <ahayzen> sverzegnassi, thanks :-)
[15:30] <ahayzen> sverzegnassi, otherwise the app is looking really good :-) the only other thing i noticed was that when zooming a pdf it seemed to wait for the whole page to be rendered instead of what was just visible on the screen, i see some zoom related branches so is this known/WIP ?
[15:33] <sverzegnassi> At the moment it renders the whole page, with some (ugly) timers that ensure that the current visible page will be the first page to be rendered. The zoom branches are currently a WIP, and will only fix the position of the Flickable's ContentItem while zooming. That should makes things a bit faster, since it will ensure that no other page will become visible while rendering
[15:33] <ahayzen> ok thanks :-)
[15:34] <sverzegnassi> TBH the branch is almost ready, but sometimes it doesn't work properly for some reason...
[15:35] <ahayzen> awesome \o/ and probably magic! hehe :-)
[15:36] <sverzegnassi> tracking a difference of 80-100px in a number that counts 10000px during a zoom is almost a tragedy... haha
[15:37] <ahayzen> hah i bet
[15:40] <nik90> ahayzen: I was able to access alarmListView.ViewItems.SelectedIndices.length outside the listview .. I did not see an error there. But I will try your way to see if that fixes the issue.
[15:40] <ahayzen> nik90, you code has alarmListView.selectedItems.count not alarmListView.ViewItems.SelectedIndices.length though .. and yeah i had some funkiness
[15:41] <nik90> ahayzen: the bug was found by mivilogo when looking through the podbird dev branch. I'm checking atm what I did there
[15:41] <ahayzen> ah i was looking at clock
[15:42] <nik90> https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~nik90/podbird/dev-multidelete-podcast/view/head:/app/ui/PodcastsTab.qml#L104
[15:42] <nik90> there in my pageheadstate, I access viewLoader.item.ViewItems.SelectedIndices.length
[15:43] <nik90> viewloader.item is the loader which loads either the listview or your columnflow
[15:45] <ahayzen> where is your listview code lol..
[15:45] * ahayzen is confused by deja-vuish code of podbird
[15:46] <ahayzen> oh below right..
[15:46] <nik90> deja-vuish?
[15:46] <ahayzen> the random files hijacked from music ;-)
[15:47] <nik90> haha
[15:47] <ahayzen> hmm why aren't we using UbuntuListView ...
[15:49] <ahayzen> ah its add stuff we don't need right
[15:52] <nik90> I'm not sure why we went for UbuntuListView over ListView...I guess its just preparing for the future where UbuntuListView will add more features I guess
[15:52] * nik90 brb
[15:53] <ahayzen> hmm actually should we be using that in weather?
[15:53] <ahayzen> for the expanding hour thing
[15:54] <sverzegnassi> popey, I had a look at LibreOfficeKit APIs, and seems it's not currently possible to get an ODT page's size/position, but it seems to be possible e.g. with LO Impress
[15:55] <sverzegnassi> It seems that ATM GNOME Documents just converts ODF documents in PDF, then it renders them through Evince. It may be a solution for ODT files, if there won't be a solution in a short time
[16:11] <nik90> ahayzen: probably...I started using it where possible in weather during my commits
[16:12] <ahayzen> nik90, well i mean it says it scrolls to the position of the expanded thing automatically, which is what we want, so if we aren't using it we should be :-)
[16:12] <nik90> true
[16:57] <ahayzen> nik90, did you figure out a way of setting the colour for bg if you drag a trailing action too far?
[20:14] <nik90> ahayzen: no I haven't figured that part out :/ .. and zsombi_ is on vacation now..so cant ask him either
[20:20] <ahayzen> :-/
[20:20] <ahayzen> it should really be reading from the apps background-colour
[20:20] <ahayzen> or just be transparent :-P
[20:22] <nik90> I agree
[20:23] <nik90> its so annoying that it just takes a white color that is such a contrasting color against dark backgrounds
[20:23] <nik90> poor music app :P
[20:23] <ahayzen> :'(
[21:03] * nik90 got sucked into the r/linux ... big mistake
[23:19] <imnichol> My qml elements seem to overlap the ones that come before them
[23:20] <imnichol> e.g. in my main qml file I have a button, following by a listview, followed by another button. When I run qmlscene they all show up at the top of the window with the 2nd button on top
[23:20] <imnichol> How can I get them to appear one after another?
[23:21] <nik90> imnichol: you could use a QML Column to arrange them vertically
[23:21] <nik90> imnichol: if not, you can define the anchors on each of the item such a way that they don't overlap one other
[23:21] <nik90> ahayzen: btw I just tested your https://code.launchpad.net/~ahayzen/music-app/refactor-use-sdk-listitems/+merge/261328 and I can reproduce the multiselect bug I told you about.
[23:21] <nik90> ahayzen: if you're online, I can walk you through it
[23:22] <imnichol> nik90, thanks for the help, I tried before and failed so I figured I was barking up the wrong tree
[23:22] <nik90> imnichol: if you push your code online to launchpad or github, I can help you debug it.
[23:25] <imnichol> nik90, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11785697/
[23:27] <imnichol> I'm just running it with qmlscene
[23:28] <nik90> imnichol: give me a minute to fix it
[23:28] <imnichol> Hah. If you're going to fix it you can have as much time as you want
[23:31] <nik90> imnichol: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11785712/
[23:31] <imnichol> nik90, so I need to have a Page element in there?
[23:32] <nik90> imnichol: actually not sure..it comes as part of the default ubuntu app template..
[23:32] <nik90> imnichol: let me try removing it and checking
[23:33] <imnichol> FYI I'm not using qtcreator
[23:33] <nik90> imnichol: it works even without the Page{} element
[23:34] <nik90> imnichol: I would highly recommend Qtcreator since it helps with indentation, autocompletion and also running it on the phone. Very useful!
[23:34] <nik90> that said, I notice that you use Text{}...I would recommend using Label{} instead
[23:34] <imnichol> nik90, Problem is that I don't have a phone, and I haven't been able to get the emulator to to work
[23:34] <nik90> since it takes into account the screen resolution and will appear correctly on all devices
[23:35] <imnichol> Plus, to be honest, I didn't really feel like developer.ubuntu.com was really geared towards me
[23:35] <nik90> imnichol: ah oke..its a really pity that newcomers are unable to get the emulator up and running
[23:35] <imnichol> So I've been focusing on learning QML first, and then figured I'd work on learning how to use the Ubuntu specific stuff once I actually needed to
[23:35] <nik90> imnichol: If you describe in a bit more detail what exactly you weren't comfortable with in developer.ubuntu.com, I can help get it across to the right people
[23:36] <nik90> there are a lot of tutorials to help you get started
[23:36] <nik90> that said, if you want to learn basic qml, then there are lot of tutorials in the web for that
[23:36] <imnichol> I wasn't able to locate a straight up simple "here's how to do layout"
[23:37] <imnichol> I usually try to mock up the UI first, so that's an important step for me
[23:37] <nik90> ah yes..that's because developer.ubuntu.com is more targetted at getting started with developing ubuntu app,. while the layout stuff is basic qml knowledge which is best learnt through tutorials in the web
[23:38] <imnichol> Yeah
[23:39] <imnichol> It's not really a fatal flaw or anything, but I get discouraged easily if I have to go hunting for information since the time that I have for doing QML stuff is limited
[23:39] <imnichol> More of a personal flow
[23:41] <nik90> imnichol: the best way I learnt was to look at other people code and if I did not understand something I would refer to the online documentation at http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qml-qtquick-listview.html for instance
[23:41] <nik90> the official qt docs are as simple and descriptive as it gets
[23:41] <imnichol> I see I forgot to thank you, so thank you nik90 for the assistance. I really appreciate it
[23:41] <nik90> yw :)
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2015-06-27-#ubuntu-devel
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[15:27] <pitti> hallyn: what Laney said -- Wants= is just "start that unit"; you need After= for ordering
[15:28] <pitti> hallyn: half of "start on stopped B" is A saying Conflicts=B.service, but that doesn't trigger the starting yet
[15:29] <pitti> hallyn: there's OnFailure= if that's your use case
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ubuntu-chat
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2015-06-27-#ubuntu-ops
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Does Canonical spy on what you do on your computer when you use ubuntu?
[00:57] <bazhang> hfsplus I reckon
[07:55] <bazhang> wubi is STILL on the 15.04???
[07:56] <bazhang> how long to finally inter it?
[08:05] <bazhang> !lxle
[08:05] <bazhang> crunchbang and backtrack have ceased to exist
[08:06] <bazhang> we could practically forget that near channel spanning factoid
[08:07] <bazhang> YES I use 20pt fonts
[08:07] <bazhang> DONT YOU JUDGE ME
[10:20] <ikonia> @mark #ubuntu cq-aux trying to get help to get around wifi limits by changing his mac
it is a trade secret
[11:22] <bazhang> sounds like asking for help is violating the nda
[11:31] <bazhang> if he continues, I'm going to take action
[11:33] <ikonia> @mark #ubuntu heikki_ rude guy, rage quitting
[11:35] <bazhang> keeping an eye on -server
[11:35] <ikonia> he won't join,
[12:58] <gheraint> gheraint sets modes [#ubuntu +q *!*@197.148.10.212] apparently it's been going a whle
[12:59] <gheraint> *a while too
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2015-06-27-#ubuntu-arm
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[00:00] <itu> ( s/#ARM_cores/'Cores/ # in wikipedialink at topic )
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ubuntu-chat
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2015-06-27-#ubuntu-mythtv
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[02:44] <SmallwoodDR82> mythbackend doesn't seem to be running mythfilldatabase. If I run the command manually the EPG seems fine for about 2 weeks, then I have to run it again. Is this normally completed through a cron?
[17:10] <Patrickdk> mythbackend should never run mythfilldatabase
[17:10] <Patrickdk> normally it's run daily
[17:12] <LordDragon> whats the default samba login password?
[17:12] <LordDragon> i am trying to connect with my ubuntu user name/pass
[17:12] <LordDragon> but it refuses
[17:13] <Patrickdk> there is none
[17:13] <Patrickdk> you have to create samba users
[17:15] <LordDragon> oh ok. is there a gui for that?
[17:16] <Patrickdk> sure
[17:16] <Patrickdk> gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf
[17:27] <LordDragon> lol
[17:35] <LordDragon> before i was able to see "recordings" in my network location section of "this pc" in windows
[17:35] <LordDragon> now its gone for some reason.
[17:35] <LordDragon> thats why i was trying to connect via samba
[17:35] <LordDragon> to get it back
[17:36] <Patrickdk> dunno, I don't use windows
[20:19] <Shadow__X> you have to make sure the shares are in smb.conf
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2015-06-27-#ubuntu-no
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[15:34] <Toffe> Hei
[15:34] <Toffe> får segment fault når jeg gjør: sudo fsck.ext4 -f /dev/sda1
[15:54] <RoyK> og venter sju minutter før han gir opp :P
[18:42] <Mathias> kan prikke borti han, om det er riktig toffe da
[19:17] <RoyK> ikke noe poeng i å be om å få gi brukerstøtte
[21:11] <Mathias> Toffe: ping timeout as
[21:11] <Toffe> :(
[21:11] <Toffe> noe galt med ubuntuen her plutselig går den i read only
[21:12] <Toffe> noen plass jeg kan finne logger for akkurat det der? hvorfor den gjør det liksom?
[21:30] <Mathias> sjekk dmesg
[22:03] <RoyK> Mathias++
[22:03] <RoyK> Toffe: hvis ting går i readonly, er det normalt et filsystem som sliter, noe som normalt kommer av at en disk som sliter
[22:04] <RoyK> Toffe: en halvdau disk vil ofte føre til sånt - som Mathias sa - dmesg
[22:04] <RoyK> eller dmesg -T - så ser du når det skjedde
[22:05] <Toffe> hva skal jeg søke etter ?
[22:05] <Toffe> sda1?
[22:05] <RoyK> dmesg -T | pastebinit
[22:06] <Toffe> ah har rebootet siden så den er gammel
[22:06] <Toffe> eller .. "ny"
[22:06] <Toffe> ingenting hemmelig i dmesg? :P
[22:08] <RoyK> har du kjørt omstart, er det ikke noe mer i dmesg fra den forrige greia
[22:09] <Toffe> oki venter til det skjer igjen, problemet var at alle kommandoer failet når jeg kjørte f.eks sudo reboot så kom det error
[22:09] <Toffe> håper dmesg fungerer fortsatt
[22:10] <RoyK> Toffe: smartctl -x /dev/sda
[22:10] <RoyK> eller hva den nå heter
[22:10] <Toffe> http://link.jepb.no/bn8A
[22:10] <Toffe> det er fra forrige gang
[22:11] <Toffe> http://link.jepb.no/bnDT - smartctl
[22:11] <RoyK> hva sier smartctl -x /dev/sda ?
[22:11] <RoyK> ikke sda1
[22:11] <Toffe> http://link.jepb.no/bnXi
[22:12] <RoyK> hwraid?
[22:12] <Toffe> jepp
[22:12] <Toffe> raid5 - 4x2tb
[22:12] * RoyK skjønner ikke hvorfor folk driver med hwraid
[22:12] <Toffe> er stor webserver :P
[22:12] <RoyK> ja, men mdraid er bedre
[22:13] <RoyK> og du har kontroll på diskene
[22:13] <Toffe> software raid?
[22:13] <RoyK> osv osv osv
[22:13] <RoyK> ja, linux software raid
[22:13] <RoyK> latterlig mye bedre enn hwraid
[22:13] <Toffe> aha
[22:14] <Toffe> nei aner ikke jeg, fikk beskjed om at hardware raid var bedre, pga om hovedkortet klikket under software raid var all dataen tapt
[22:14] <Toffe> skjønnte ikke helt argumentet pga om hwraid kortet klikker så er det jo også alt tapt :P
[22:14] <RoyK> nettopp
[22:14] <Toffe> men hw raid kort tåler kanskje mer en mainboard
[22:15] <RoyK> med mdraid kan du faktisk hente ut data
[22:15] <RoyK> heh
[22:15] <Toffe> *har ikke peiling altså* :P
[22:15] <RoyK> hwraid - det er ikke noe som heter hardware raid
[22:15] <RoyK> det er bare programvare
[22:15] <Toffe> er egent raidkort her
[22:15] <RoyK> på ei brikke eller i OSet
[22:15] <RoyK> ja, så på brikka
[22:16] <RoyK> og så blir det et helvete når den kontrolleren går føyken
[22:16] <RoyK> uansett raid-nivå - husk at raid ikke er backup
[22:17] <Toffe> mhm
[22:17] <Toffe> hvordan ville du satt opp disse 4x 2tb diskene?
[22:17] <RoyK> du kan ha raid eller snapshots eller hva som helst, men det er ikke backup
[22:17] <Mathias> apropos backup, 4,7 tb igjen å laste opp
[22:17] <RoyK> mdadm --create /dev/md0 --raid-devices=4 --level=5 /dev/sd[abcd]
[22:18] <RoyK> Mathias: crashplan?
[22:18] <Toffe> tenkte mer på for å få mest mulig sikkerhet
[22:18] <Mathias> RoyK: backblaze
[22:18] <RoyK> Mathias: fra linux?
[22:18] <Mathias> windouche
[22:18] <Toffe> 2x2tb i raid1 som backupdisk og 2x2tb i raid0 for hastighet og en ekstra 2tb til crap? :P
[22:18] <Mathias> er desktopen som er viktigst uansett
[22:18] <Mathias> tar backup fra laptopene til den uansett
[22:19] <RoyK> Toffe: sett heller opp et raid6 med hele driten
[22:19] <RoyK> Mathias: bruker crashplan.no - får wirespeed dit - funker greit
[22:20] <Mathias> tenkte å teste ut andre ting :p
[22:21] <Mathias> kostet meg også bare 4 dollar for 3 måneder
[22:22] <RoyK> men natta
[22:22] <RoyK> dag i morra også
[22:22] <RoyK> og så tur sørover
[22:39] <RoyK> xenadu: morgen
[22:56] <xenadu> royk: heisann
[22:57] <RoyK> heihei
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ubuntu-chat
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"Toffe",
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2015-06-27-#ubuntu-cm
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[12:14] <ariabbas> .
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:36.322402
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"authors": [
"ariabbas"
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2015-06-27-#kubuntu
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[00:01] <glenn_> kubuntu just froze opening up muon
[00:01] <glenn_> im sick of the freezing..
[01:53] <excalibr> Peeps..how do you set a global shortcut for alt+printscr in Custom Shortcut. It can't seem to capture alt key
[01:54] <excalibr> Probably because it's toggle the mnemonic thingy gets in the way when I press Alt
[01:54] <excalibr> the toggle*
[03:37] <Finetundra> hey folks, is there a way to set a button to black out the screen?
[04:51] <babu_> hi
[04:51] <babu_> anyone here can tell me how to remove akonadi
[04:51] <babu_> ?
[05:27] <satty> how tune kubuntu
[05:28] <valorie> tune?
[05:28] <satty> tweak
[05:29] <valorie> what do you want to change?
[05:29] <valorie> everything is very configurable
[05:29] <satty> valorie: fine
[05:30] <satty> valorie: I am facing problem in composing
[05:31] <satty> settings -> display -> composing -> open GL 3.1 -> animation instant
[05:32] <valorie> so you have found the KCM; what is the difficulty?
[05:42] <satty> valorie: kcm
[05:43] <valorie> kcm=KDE command module I think
[08:54] <dragi__> how to install the HP Scanjet Flatbed Scanner in Ubuntu
[09:41] <eXistenZe> hey guys
[09:42] <eXistenZe> until the konsole crash on exit is fixed, is there any good replacement?
[10:16] <ShalokShalom> eXistenZe: Yakuake ?
[10:27] <Odur> I'm still using 14.10 because I've heard about people having lot of troubles with 15.04, crashing Plasma and so on. How is 15.04 working for you guys?
[10:32] <Odur> I'm thinking about holding off until 15.10, but then I read "Updates, bug fixes and future releases are currently uncertain." (which is now changed apperantly), and I got a little worried about the future...
[10:42] <mparillo> Odur: If your primary concern is stability, sure, stick with Plasma 4. If you want new stuff, I would install 15.10. IMHO, for all *buntus, you are better off with fresh installs than upgrades. So, as far as the future, I tend to back up my data, and fresh install with every release. The other reasonable approach is to stick with LTS exclusively.
[10:45] <Odur> Yeah, I always do fresh installs. Tried upgrade once, but it didn't work well.
[10:46] <Odur> I'm used to having to tweak a few things every install, but I've read a little too much about problems with 15.04 to not to worry about switching.
[10:56] <mparillo> I have a limited set of use cases, but 15.04 basically worked for me. It was missing a couple of widgets, and some non KDE apps had issues (theming on wxwidgets apps, dropbox tray icon, skype icon (I heard)), and on wireless, I have to re-enter my password (I assume it is a kwallet password) with every re-boot. Also spell checking stopped working in konversation, but basically it works for me. And if I do not try it, how can
[10:56] <mparillo> I help improve it?
[10:56] <mparillo> Oh yes, SDDM does not have the guest login the way LightDM did.
[10:57] <mparillo> And the granularity regional formatting on dates / time etc. is lost.
[10:57] <mparillo> I can point you to bug reports for many of these if you are interested.
[11:06] <Odur> mparillo: No thanks, I was just curious about peoples experience of 15.04
[11:11] <mparillo> Then TL;DR version: I willingly trade-off some stability and regressions for the opportunity to try something new and improve it. Others will not.
[11:38] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:06] <verdooft> Hello.
[12:06] <BluesKaj> hi verdooft
[12:06] <verdooft> Hi BluesKaj.
[12:26] <Dubfiance> hi
[12:26] <verdooft> Hello Dubfiance.
[12:26] <Dubfiance> what's up?
[12:26] <verdooft> Kubuntu is up.
[12:26] <verdooft> but not for long time, i shutdown daily.
[12:26] <verdooft> :D
[12:27] <Dubfiance> when does it shut down/
[12:27] <BluesKaj> he shuts it down
[12:28] <Dubfiance> why?
[12:28] <Dubfiance> i mean like this is the official kubuntu support irc isnt it?
[12:29] <Dubfiance> why would such a thing be unavailable in a certian time
[12:29] <verdooft> It is.
[12:29] <BluesKaj> Dubfiance, yes it is
[12:29] <BluesKaj> well, i shut my pc off to save electricity
[12:30] <BluesKaj> hi ovidiu-florin
[12:30] <verdooft> Hello ovidiu-florin.
[12:30] <Dubfiance> well why would the official server be hosted on a guy's computer rather than an actual server that can be up 24/7
[12:32] <BluesKaj> the official servers are listed in your /etc/apt/sources.list or package manager , they aren't owned by ordinary users
[15:17] <Jepong> hi guys... i upgraded awhile ago my kubuntu 15.05 installation using kubuntu-ppa\backports... now i'm stuck with just the wallpaper. any workaround? just got my laptop fresh install again.
[15:17] <Jepong> i mean kubuntu 15.04
[15:23] <hyper_ch> wow, that was weird...wily installer didn't succeed in configuring my ethernet gigabit network card nor did it detect my internal wifi... I had to use an ancient wifi stick.... and then the partitioner didn't detect my ssd
[15:37] <hyper_ch> ok, I just tried the utopic mini-cd and same result... partitioner doesn't detect the ssd... even when I toggle to a different tty then it's not being listed???
[15:44] <lamp> 和
[15:44] <lamp> hi
[15:44] <lamp> anyone here?
[15:49] <BluesKaj> hyper_ch, that's why i usually prepartition with gparted beforte installing an OS
[15:50] <ovidiu-florin> hello BluesKaj & verdooft
[15:51] <verdooft> Hello ovidiu-florin.
[15:51] <hyper_ch> BluesKaj: not sure how gparted helps if the mini cd doesn't recognized the ssd
[15:51] <BluesKaj> hey ovidiu-florin
[15:52] <BluesKaj> hyper_ch, gparted usues a better partitioner IMO
[15:52] <ovidiu-florin> BluesKaj verdooft you pinged me?
[15:53] <Jepong> anyone had problems after upgrading Kubuntu with kubuntu-ppa/backports?
[15:53] <BluesKaj> ubiquity uses parted I think ,and it's options are limited anyway, I always basically bypass and use the manual partitioning just to set the mountpoints
[15:53] <ovidiu-florin> Jepong: what problems are you experiencing?
[15:54] <Jepong> after restart i only got the wallpaper
[15:54] <verdooft> I don't ping.
[15:55] <Jepong> i can use Alt+F1 to call the App Launcher thou
[15:55] <Jepong> basicall all i can see is wallpaper and the new cashew
[15:56] <Jepong> brb
[15:59] <ovidiu-florin> Jepong: can you open a konsole?
[15:59] <ovidiu-florin> killall plasmashell ; plasmashell ;
[16:02] <Jepong> let me screenshot that ovidiu-florin... i have freshinstall my kubuntu intallation
[16:02] <Jepong> let me try to update again and let you know what happened
[16:02] <Jepong> thanks!
[16:25] <hyper_ch> BluesKaj: if the ssd isn't show at all in /dev/disk/by-id or /proc/partitions or anything, then you have a probelm
[16:45] <BluesKaj> hyper_ch, run a sudo blkid to see if there's a UUID for it
[16:51] <BluesKaj> raid,? oh well that's differentr story
[17:18] <eXistenZe> Hey guys
[17:18] <eXistenZe> Is plasmashell suposed to use 33% CPU all the time?
[17:20] <Replop__> kubuntu install messed up the grub menu creation :/ did choose some strange recovery thingy instead of the proper boot, for the windows option
[17:22] <mparillo> I doubt it. <ctrl> <esc> seems to list FF on top most (but only a couple of tabs). Plasmashell is usually zero CPU 153MB Memory
[17:23] <mparillo> If you are running on an underpoowered netbook, I can check threre in maybe 10 minutes.
[17:26] <eXistenZe> not really... it's a T9400cpu (2.53Ghz) and a 9600GT card. 4Gb ram
[17:27] <eXistenZe> plasmashells uses a minimum of 25% and kwin_x11 4%
[17:33] <BluesKaj> eXistenZe, plasmashell maxes out at 2% here
[17:34] <mparillo> Same here, even on my little netbook. But a little less memory: 118MB.
[17:35] <eXistenZe> ha ha...what a stupid bug... this is caused by the cpu monitor widget itself
[17:36] <eXistenZe> probably the animation
[17:36] <eXistenZe> closed it and it's back to less than 1%
[17:37] <mparillo> Maybe you can file a bug against the widget?
[17:37] <eXistenZe> I already have a dozen bugs to report
[17:37] <eXistenZe> but I never get to the part where you install some package to actually debug the crash (in konsole for example)
[17:38] <eXistenZe> it claims to install it but it always claims "not enough info... please install debug symbols ...."
[17:39] <BluesKaj> dual core amd 5200+ cpu, 6G Ram , using 488.7 MB of memeory by plasmashell here
[17:39] <eXistenZe> 234Mb here in mem
[17:41] <BluesKaj> eXistenZe, in dolphin help, choose report bug , change the application to whatever you want to report
[17:42] <BluesKaj> oh was busy typing didn't see your post about debugging symbols above
[18:51] <MrSassyPants> ok, steam isn't running from the k menu, but it does run from the CLI. what's wrong?
[19:48] <rkanagy> anybody here know how to get kubuntu 15.04 with Plasma 5 to work with xrdp and Windows Remote Desktop Connection?
[19:50] <rkanagy> after installing xrdp and setting my .xsession file to have startkde in it, and then connect/login using Remote Desktop Connection, all I get is a finely white/black checkered screen, does not go any further
[19:54] <henry8989> hello i just did an ndis driver install on kubuntu and it says that the device and driver are both present but it will not let me configure the network it says network manager not installed
[20:09] <kontoo> just out of curiosity: how do you install GCC with muon?
[20:09] <kontoo> it doesn't find any GCC packages
[20:17] <frenda> Where is keyboard settings for defining keys in order to switch between languages?
[20:23] <henry8989> i need help with configuring ndis in kubuntu can anyone help?
[20:29] <alvin> eXistenZe: Do you have widgets on your desktop? If so, try removing all of them and see of the load goes lower.
[21:00] <johnflux> I've just upgraded kubuntu, and I've lost my system tray
[21:00] <eXistenZe> too late alvin
[21:00] <eXistenZe> [18:35] <eXistenZe> ha ha...what a stupid bug... this is caused by the cpu monitor widget itself
[21:00] <eXistenZe> [18:36] <eXistenZe> probably the animation
[21:00] <eXistenZe> [18:36] <eXistenZe> closed it and it's back to less than 1%
[21:00] <frenda> Where is keyboard settings for defining keys in order to switch between languages?
[21:02] <johnflux> I see some system tray icons, but it appears to be the 'built in' ones
[21:02] <johnflux> I don't see things like the konversation app, skype, hplip etc systray icons
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:36.339090
| 2015-06-27T00:00:00 |
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"BluesKaj",
"Dubfiance",
"Finetundra",
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"MrSassyPants",
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"ShalokShalom",
"alvin",
"babu_",
"dragi__",
"eXistenZe",
"excalibr",
"frenda",
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"hyper_ch",
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"mparillo",
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2015-06-27-#snappy
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[10:45] <Guest36352> thanks damjan, got it working
[15:30] <pitti> ogra_: sorry, don't know much about fan -- I just sponsored; thanks for reverting, if that causes trouble (I assumed sergiusens knew what to do)
[16:27] <JohnClar_> Hey all
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:36.340960
| 2015-06-27T00:00:00 |
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"Guest36352",
"JohnClar_",
"pitti"
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"channel": "#snappy"
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2015-06-27-#ubuntu-za
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[06:12] <Kilos> morning superfly and other za peeps
[07:07] <Kilos> hi mazal
[07:51] <mazal> More oom
[07:52] <Kilos> hi Tonberry
[08:06] <mazal> I'm so cold I'm struggling with the PS3 buttons :P
[08:06] <Kilos> very cold
[08:06] <Tonberry> hi
[09:53] <Kilos> the quick brown fox jums over the lazy dogs back
[09:53] <Kilos> ai!
[10:54] <magespawn> good afternoon
[11:09] <Kilos> hi magespawn
[12:39] <magespawn> hi Kilos
[12:39] <magespawn> the comand i was looking for is netdiscover
[12:40] <Kilos> Maaz net scan is <reply> netdiscover
[12:40] <Maaz> Kilos: Got it
[12:40] <Kilos> ty magespawn now Maaz will remember for you
[12:40] <magespawn> netscan i think is a windows command, let m\e check
[12:41] <magespawn> hmm maybe not
[12:42] <Kilos> http://is.gd/0PQLTE
[12:43] <Kilos> they think everyone is stupid
[12:43] <Kilos> load shedding most of the day tomorrow while they build up reserves
[12:43] <Kilos> you cant save ac
[12:48] <magespawn> i was wondering about that
[15:42] <smile> bye :p
[15:42] <Kilos> cheers lad , be good
[15:42] <smile> thanks
[17:27] <Kilos> load shedding at 8 again, sigh. night all. sleep warm
[18:46] <magespawn> good evening
[20:13] <inetpro> .
[20:13] <Cryterion> +
[20:15] <inetpro> Hi Cryterion
[20:15] <Cryterion> Heya inetpro
[21:19] <smile> Hi gremble
[21:19] <gremble> Hey smile
[21:19] <gremble> How are you?
[21:19] <smile> I am doing ok. :)
[21:19] <smile> You? :)
[21:19] <gremble> I am doing well thank you
[21:22] <smile> I want love
[21:22] <smile> :)
[21:22] <gremble> You mean to lose at tennis?
[21:22] <smile> Lol? Tell me
[21:23] <gremble> In tennis "love" means that you have 0 points
[21:24] <smile> :-O :-O
[21:30] <gremble> :p
[21:33] <smile> But I didnt tennis
[21:33] <smile> :-O
[21:33] <gremble> Oh, then I don't know
[21:47] <smile> Slaapwel :)
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2015-06-27-#kubuntu-devel
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[00:07] <ahoneybun> the default background valorie?
[00:48] <valorie> right, ahoneybun
[00:49] <valorie> gosh, tried to work outside for a few mins, but have been defeated by the heat and humidity
[00:49] <valorie> not sure how y'all in Florida get *anything* done outside
[00:49] <valorie> you must be as tough as gators
[00:50] <ahoneybun> we wait for the shade to come valorie
[00:52] <valorie> I was in the shade!
[00:53] <valorie> <-- not a total dolt
[00:53] <valorie> the sun on bare skin feels like it's burning in mere seconds
[00:55] <[Relic]> water proof laptops and sit in the ocean :)
[00:59] <valorie> I'm hours away from actual ocean
[00:59] <valorie> maybe less than an hour from the Sound
[00:59] <valorie> off to see my papa
[04:49] <nixternal> hola peeps!
[05:14] <Darkwing> Hey nixternal
[05:19] <valorie> poof, here and gone
[05:20] <JesseW1> In reading the "Joint Statement from the CC and KC" https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-community-team/2015-June/000646.html , I was surprised to see no explicit acknowledgement of approval of the statement by the KC, either in the message (by, say, listing the names of the KC members who read and approved it), or in follow-up messages on the list (or in other places the list has been posted, AFAICT). The lack gives rise to some unpleasant though
[05:21] <JesseW1> (For reference, my only connection to Kubuntu, or Ubuntu at all, is as an occasional user, and minor contributor some years ago.)
[05:21] <valorie> hi JesseW1
[05:22] <valorie> I wrote much of it
[05:22] <JesseW1> valorie: ok, good to hear!
[05:22] <valorie> we're trying to move past this, but the recent unpleasantness is still rather raw
[05:22] <JesseW1> That makes a lot of sense.
[05:22] <valorie> plus we have work to do here
[05:23] <valorie> and most of us don't want to deal with the issue as such again until we have to
[05:24] <valorie> all of us signed off on it, for the record
[05:24] <valorie> including Riddell
[05:25] <JesseW1> I can entirely understand not wanting to deal with it further. If I was more involved, I'm pretty sure I wouldn't either. Thanks for the clarification, and sorry for bringing up troubles.
[05:25] <valorie> np
[05:25] <valorie> we want to be clear and transparent about everything
[05:26] <JesseW1> Yeah, that was why I thought it worth asking for the clarification.
[05:27] <valorie> it's great that you are interested
[05:34] <JesseW1> I think there are a lot of bystanders who are interested. It was a really ugly and alarming situation.
[05:35] <valorie> I agree
[05:35] <valorie> not many users care about internal issues, however
[05:36] <JesseW1> Sure. I'm running debian now, and I'm not as aware of internal debian issues as I might be, either.
[05:36] <JesseW1> I don't *think* there's anything to this level going on lately, though.
[05:36] <valorie> did you read the systemd debate?
[05:37] <valorie> I did......
[05:37] <JesseW1> Heh. Oh, that.
[05:37] <JesseW1> Yeah, that was an instance of ugly internal issues in debian, certainly.
[05:39] <JesseW1> Is the logger broken, or does it just take a while to catch up? I don't see anything logged from this channel since 04:49...
[05:40] <valorie> unsure, I have my own logs
[05:46] <JesseW1> OK. Thanks again for the response, and to all of you for all your work.
[11:38] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:40] <Riddell> hi BluesKaj, thanks for your help with alpha 1
[11:41] <BluesKaj> hey Riddell, glad to help. Hope we can keep this going past october.
[14:14] <mparillo> Looks as if Wily got Plasma 5.3.1. Setting up plasma-desktop (4:5.3.1-0ubuntu3) ...
[14:16] <BluesKaj> yup, haven't noticed much difference yet
[14:17] <mparillo> BluesKaj: Do you know if it is also in the backports for 15.04?
[14:18] <mparillo> Doh, I posted this http://www.kubuntu.org/news/plasma-531 myself.
[14:18] <mparillo> Almost a month ago.
[14:19] <BluesKaj> :-)
[14:37] <ahoneybun> Riddell: I can do the manual partitioning in a bit
[14:37] <ahoneybun> or not..
[15:08] <ahoneybun> Riddell: have you seen the new DVD artwork?
[15:10] <Riddell> ahoneybun: no sorry I'm behind on e-mail
[15:10] <ahoneybun> Riddell: http://imgur.com/a/axpzW
[15:12] <Riddell> ahoneybun: lovely!
[15:12] <ahoneybun> :)
[15:52] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: ok I'll put in the website
[15:53] <ahoneybun> yay
[15:57] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: can't the artwork be in svg?
[15:57] <ahoneybun> um
[15:57] <ahoneybun> If I knew inkscape
[15:58] <ovidiu-florin> it's easy
[15:58] <ovidiu-florin> or use Karbon if inkscape is not your thing
[16:01] <ahoneybun> I use GIMP
[16:05] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: do you have owncloud?
[16:05] <ahoneybun> nope
[16:27] <Darkwing> I do inkscape
[16:27] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: ^
[16:28] <ovidiu-florin> Darkwing: can you convert some pngs in vectorial?
[16:28] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: why ping me lol you have the files on your owncloud
[16:28] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: to make sure you saw that
[16:28] <Darkwing> Yeah,
[16:28] <ahoneybun> thanks lol
[16:29] <Darkwing> I've done that quite a bit in the past. Whats the detail level
[16:29] <Darkwing> ?
[16:29] <ovidiu-florin> Darkwing: the plasma 5 wallpaper, do you know it?
[16:30] <Darkwing> Aye
[16:30] <ovidiu-florin> that detail level
[16:30] <Darkwing> Conversion? Possabily.
[16:30] <ovidiu-florin> Darkwing: scotland?
[16:31] <Darkwing> Negative. US.
[16:31] <Darkwing> Former Sailor US Navy. Aye is built in my vocabulary.
[16:32] <ovidiu-florin> Darkwing: ;)
[16:32] <ovidiu-florin> awesome
[16:33] <Darkwing> Lemme poke around with converting
[16:33] <ahoneybun> thanks Darkwing
[16:33] <Darkwing> Yup
[16:35] * ahoneybun runs off to Steam wonderland
[16:36] <ovidiu-florin> noooooooooo..... *flies away too*
[16:38] <ovidiu-florin> Darkwing: we have gimp files
[16:39] <ovidiu-florin> we can import/export... from/to ... something...
[16:41] <Darkwing> Ohhh, URL?
[16:41] <ovidiu-florin> Darkwing: owncloud or Google drive?
[16:42] <Darkwing> GDrive. [email protected]
[16:43] <ovidiu-florin> Darkwing: I recommend not to do that anymore (make your email adddress public like that)
[16:43] <ovidiu-florin> Darkwing: https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B6zAAODZFwQ2fl8zV2ZuWGZ5MmZyd0NrRFJkYXRUR0JfU3VUdEJSRVplcF9FNm5OaHFUbWs&usp=sharing
[16:44] <Darkwing> My email address has been public for a very very long time
[16:44] <Darkwing> Same with my mobile number... +1-260-804-5130 lol
[16:45] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: can you introduce me to that doccumentation thing we talked about?
[16:45] <Darkwing> I am not a hard person to track down and find lol
[16:46] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: pootle or sphinx?
[16:46] <ovidiu-florin> sphinx
[16:47] <ahoneybun> what about it
[16:48] <ahoneybun> provides documentation written in reST/RST and can output HTML/epub/PDF
[16:49] <ahoneybun> it is so nice to have that lol
[16:52] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: you talked about a page that shows how to connect it to a pootle server
[16:53] <ahoneybun> in this it has a picture with Pootle on it but they use Transifex: http://sphinx-doc.org/intl.html?highlight=translations
[16:56] <ahoneybun> looks like you make the .pot file with Sphinx, put that on Pootle and then it shoots out .po files
[16:57] <ovidiu-florin> transifex is proprietary
[16:57] <ahoneybun> I have the pot files made already if/when you get a pootle server up
[16:57] <ahoneybun> I see that
[16:58] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: ok, I'm looking into that
[16:58] <ahoneybun> cool
[17:01] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: Pootles on documentation is using Sphinx btw lol
[17:01] <ahoneybun> *own doc
[17:01] <ovidiu-florin> :D
[17:01] <ovidiu-florin> so we use the best technologies
[17:01] <ahoneybun> match made in Heaven lol
[17:01] <ahoneybun> all open source
[17:02] <ahoneybun> I would think so as Sphinx is Python's own docs
[17:02] <ovidiu-florin> I wander if I could hold a talk at akademy about this, and convice poeple to have a pootle server for KDE
[17:02] <ahoneybun> you should
[17:02] <ovidiu-florin> or can I just talk to them in the hall?
[17:02] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: what do you think???
[17:02] <ahoneybun> either way there should be talks and beer
[17:02] <ahoneybun> lol
[17:03] <ovidiu-florin> in order to do a talk, I have to research much more, than just talking to people in the hall way
[17:03] <ahoneybun> true
[17:04] <ahoneybun> wow that docs page links to github, the pdf, epub everything
[17:04] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: what's pootle?
[17:05] <ovidiu-florin> an webinterface translation tool
[17:05] <ovidiu-florin> that's used by libreoffice and many other big projects
[17:05] <ovidiu-florin> there's also transifex, but that comercial (free for open source) and proprietary
[17:10] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: what do you think about the talk?
[17:11] <Riddell> which talk?
[17:11] <Riddell> asking for pootle?
[17:11] <ovidiu-florin> is it enough just to talk with the relevant people at some random time? or I must hold a talk in order to get anywhere?
[17:11] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: yes
[17:11] <ahoneybun> ScottK: ovidiu-florin where are your pictures! http://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/the-kubuntu-team/
[17:11] <Riddell> ask for a bof session with l10n people
[17:11] <Riddell> and go for it
[17:12] <ovidiu-florin> what's bof?
[17:28] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: what's a BOF session?
[17:29] <ovidiu-florin> it know it comes from birds of feather, but I have no idea what that means
[17:34] <mparillo> People who share a common interest. In the US, at least, the expression is "Birds of a feather flock together".
[17:35] <ovidiu-florin> I understand
[17:35] <ovidiu-florin> thank you
[17:37] <ahoneybun> damn these wifi speeds
[17:43] <BluesKaj> a lot of users never change the wifi channel from the default which is usually #6 , so everyone in the neighbourhood is fighting for space on the same channel
[17:45] <ahoneybun> I still blame AT&T
[17:47] <BluesKaj> heh , that damn phone compny ...snort
[17:50] <ScottK> Not sure if it originated there or not, but the IETF is the first place I ran across the term BoF.
[17:50] <ScottK> http://trac.tools.ietf.org/bof/trac/
[17:50] <ScottK> Then there's BoFH, but that's something completely different.
[18:00] <Riddell> which I'm pleased to see The Register has recently brought back
[18:14] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: what does the AW in the GIMP project file stand for?
[18:14] <ahoneybun> I'm not sure ovidiu-florin, that was in the pdf file that the Canonical Design Team gave me
[18:24] <BluesKaj> art work? :-)
[18:30] <ovidiu-florin> who is an admin at Kubuntu forums?
[18:30] <Riddell> SteveR but he's not been on irc for ages
[18:30] <Riddell> maybe Mamark and maybe me
[18:36] <ahoneybun> BluesKaj: http://imgur.com/a/axpzW
[18:36] <murthy> kde 5.3.1 released in 15.10?
[18:36] <ahoneybun> seems so murthy
[18:37] <murthy> ahoneybun: is getting backported to 15.04 ?
[18:37] <ahoneybun> it already is
[18:37] <ahoneybun> wily: http://wire.kubuntu.org/?p=338
[18:38] <murthy> ahoneybun: can you give me the link to the ci page?
[18:38] <BluesKaj> yes murthy, it's been in the 15.04 backports for a while now
[18:39] <murthy> BluesKaj: I need to check probably I confused this update for 5.3.2
[18:39] <murthy> BluesKaj: when is the next stabilization update due for 15.04?
[18:39] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: GIMP file for disc print??
[18:40] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: I have it, not 100% sure if I want this design to be final
[18:41] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: I'm glad you have it
[18:41] <ovidiu-florin> can I also have it?
[18:41] <ahoneybun> me too
[18:41] <ahoneybun> yea sure let me get it on the owncloud
[18:41] <ovidiu-florin> I've translated the front
[18:41] <murthy> why is this put there ? "No backports PPA required."
[18:41] <murthy> for 15.10 I mean?
[18:44] <ahoneybun> murthy: the backport is needed in 15.04
[18:44] <ahoneybun> but all the new packages are in the Ubuntu archive now
[18:44] <ahoneybun> for 15.10 anyway
[18:46] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: its up
[18:46] <ovidiu-florin> merci beaucoup
[18:46] <murthy> ahoneybun: Ya I know but is it obvious that we dont need a backport for 15.
[18:46] <murthy> 15.10
[18:46] <BluesKaj> murthy, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WilyWerewolf/ReleaseSchedule
[18:46] <murthy> *isn't it obvious
[18:47] <ahoneybun> murthy: don't hurt to say it
[18:47] <murthy> BluesKaj: Yesterday I saw the know bugs of 15.10 alpha for found that the ark issue is a bigger issue
[18:47] <murthy> ahoneybun: ok
[18:48] <ahoneybun> very nice ovidiu-florin on the ro version, that is oxygen-sans right?
[18:48] <murthy> BluesKaj: can we expect 5.3.2 this month end?
[18:48] <ahoneybun> ooohh Krita opens xcf files!
[18:48] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: I think. It's the defualt one
[18:48] <ovidiu-florin> yes, I know
[18:48] <ahoneybun> I did not
[18:49] <ovidiu-florin> I told you this last week, I think
[18:49] <ahoneybun> maybe
[18:49] <ahoneybun> either way I know now
[18:49] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: did you use ubuntu bold on the Try it, Love it? Share it! part?
[18:50] <ovidiu-florin> I used the same that was
[18:50] <ovidiu-florin> I did not change that
[18:50] <ahoneybun> ok cool
[18:50] <murthy> BluesKaj: I have an idea about the install process, may I share it here?
[18:51] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: was it easy to work with the xcf?
[18:51] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: I can't translate the disk image
[18:51] <ahoneybun> yea with that word wrap
[18:51] <ahoneybun> give me the translations and I will do it :)
[18:51] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: I did not edit it with Krita, as I wanted to be sure that I don't break the project file
[18:52] <ahoneybun> yea
[18:52] <BluesKaj> murthy, https://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/Plasma_5
[18:53] <murthy> BluesKaj: thats the one I was searching. nice
[18:53] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: Kubuntu 15.04 este liber spre a fi copiat, modificat și distribuit. Vizitați http://kubuntu.org pentru mai multe informații.
[18:53] <ovidiu-florin> I've added the http://
[18:53] <ahoneybun> for?
[18:53] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: there's a -RO project file there
[18:54] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: check how I made the links on the front cover
[18:54] <ahoneybun> I see
[18:54] <ovidiu-florin> make it the same on the disc image
[18:54] <ahoneybun> I already downloaded that ro file
[18:54] <ovidiu-florin> for both RO and EN
[18:54] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: sure you don't want an account?
[18:54] <ovidiu-florin> you'd be able to sync
[18:54] <ahoneybun> fine make one
[18:54] <ovidiu-florin> no mre download/upload
[18:54] <ahoneybun> idk what sync will do
[18:55] <murthy> BluesKaj: Can I share my Idea here>
[18:55] <murthy> ?
[18:57] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: sync does upload and download for you
[18:57] <ovidiu-florin> :)))
[18:57] <BluesKaj> heh murthy you don't need my permission :-)
[18:58] <murthy> BluesKaj: no, is it the right place to share?
[18:58] <murthy> or should I mail someone?
[18:59] <BluesKaj> no, go ahead, it's fine to share ideas
[19:00] <murthy> ok, its about two things that need to be added/changed during the kubuntu fresh install or a distro upgrade process
[19:01] <BluesKaj> ok
[19:01] <murthy> one is that the proprietary display drivers cause a lot of problem after an upgrade, debian recommends the users to remove the driver if possible
[19:01] <murthy> why are we not doing that
[19:02] <murthy> I mean before an upgrade process
[19:02] <murthy> If possible we should disable the proprietary driver with the user permission before an upgrade
[19:05] <BluesKaj> which brand of gpus are you referring to because the nouveau driver is default for nvidia upon installation?
[19:05] <murthy> The second thing is, I have seen sometimes the interface between the gui and the console program is broken and the background process waits for the user input and there is not gui display to get the user input and the install process waits infinitly
[19:08] <murthy> particularly this happens when dpkg is asking if the user wants to replace/keep a config file of a package with a new one. I feel this rare situation which got out of hand during the testing process can be overcome if there was a embedded terminal window (or which can be accessed with a button) provided some thing like the one in the deb installer
[19:09] <murthy> BluesKaj: I am talking about all the proprietary drivers, not nouveau. I want to force enable nouveau before distro upgrade process
[19:10] <BluesKaj> i know there is a gui/dialog for grub if it's been previously edited
[19:11] <murthy> BluesKaj: sorry I am not able to understand
[19:11] <BluesKaj> murthy it does force nouveau on a fresh install and releas-upgraqde
[19:12] <murthy> BluesKaj: I know that nouveau is the default driver for a fresh install, but release upgrade? Last time when I upgraded from 14.10 to 15.04 was on the proprietary nvidia driver
[19:13] <BluesKaj> murthy, if you've edited grub previously then ubiquity checks for changes t grub before it iinstalls a new unedited one
[19:15] <murthy> BluesKaj: ok there it detects the driver?
[19:16] <BluesKaj> murthy, ok, I installed to / so the previously chosen driver wasn't detected
[19:17] <murthy> BluesKaj: you are talking about the fresh install right?
[19:17] <murthy> BluesKaj: I was taking about upgrading from inside the current kubuntu install
[19:19] <BluesKaj> and it 's not proprietary , they're binaries , proprietary drivers would be directly from nvidia or AMD without modification
[19:20] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: WTF, you deleted the CD Cover folder?
[19:20] <ovidiu-florin> oh.. Renamed it :D
[19:20] <ahoneybun> no?
[19:20] <ovidiu-florin> my fail
[19:20] <ahoneybun> lol
[19:20] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: you lol a lot
[19:21] <ahoneybun> I'm not typing "hehe"
[19:21] <ahoneybun> other then that time
[19:21] <ovidiu-florin> lol
[19:21] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: you now have the -RO disc art
[19:22] <ovidiu-florin> PNG or XCF?
[19:22] <ahoneybun> xcf
[19:22] <ahoneybun> want the png?
[19:22] <ovidiu-florin> the text layer has the text in RO
[19:22] <ovidiu-florin> but the image shows it in EN
[19:22] <murthy> BluesKaj: I need to learn after that difference, I never knew they were different. ok so that binary driver is disable before an distribution upgrade from inside the current install?
[19:23] <ahoneybun> opps
[19:23] <BluesKaj> normally it is removed during the do-release install as welliirc
[19:24] <ovidiu-florin> can we rename the EN files with -EN appended to them?
[19:24] <ovidiu-florin> please
[19:25] <ahoneybun> I did
[19:25] <ahoneybun> or you do it
[19:25] <BluesKaj> I seem to end up with nouveau driver afterevry install, no matter which method i use, murthy
[19:25] <ahoneybun> something like that
[19:27] <murthy> BluesKaj: Ya, I too suspect that, but I know you have heard many people telling you about the blank screen after an upgrade, do you think that the nouveau driver does that?
[19:27] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: why'd you make a second -RO disc label XCF?
[19:27] <ahoneybun> there is only one
[19:28] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: the xcf files should not have -RO or -EN as they hold all of them
[19:28] <ahoneybun> the only ones with - anything are the png
[19:28] <ovidiu-florin> what?
[19:28] <murthy> Another idea I have is the ubiquity installer update it self before the install process
[19:28] <BluesKaj> murthy, yes sometimes it's not quite up to date with some newer nvidia gpus , esopecially the higher -end ones
[19:28] <ovidiu-florin> you added both languages in the same project file?
[19:28] <ahoneybun> of course
[19:28] <ahoneybun> but in folders
[19:29] <murthy> higher end ones :) ? like gt 610?
[19:29] <ovidiu-florin> what do you mean in folders?
[19:29] <ovidiu-florin> layer folders?
[19:29] <ahoneybun> yes
[19:29] <ahoneybun> look at the -RO xcf for the label
[19:30] <murthy> So i ubiquity updates itself before an install be could fix some bugs after an install immediately
[19:30] <BluesKaj> murthy, seems so yes, iirc, gt 610 was a problem a while ago
[19:30] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: it looks bad in RO on the disc label
[19:30] <ovidiu-florin> the font is messed up
[19:31] <BluesKaj> it's not a real high-end card, but there were driver problems with it , murthy
[19:32] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: can you combine the other files as well? so we have just one project file and all the languages in them?
[19:32] <ovidiu-florin> I'mm appedn -EN to the PNG files
[19:32] <ahoneybun> yea let me try to get the font better for RO on the label
[19:33] <murthy> BluesKaj: ok. these gpu companies have to open there drivers may be then we will have a good experience with their product
[19:33] <murthy> BluesKaj: are you testing 15.10?
[19:33] <BluesKaj> murthy, yes I am
[19:35] <murthy> BluesKaj: There is/was a bug in ubiquity and I had earlier spoke to shadeslayer about this. I have been waiting for the past 3 kubuntu releases. Can you check if this got fixed?
[19:35] <murthy> BluesKaj: I will give the bug id now
[19:36] <murthy> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1389847
[19:36] <murthy> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1087409
[19:37] <murthy> BluesKaj: I have given the steps to reproduce the bug in the first bug report
[19:37] <BluesKaj> testing Wily alpha and I did encouter a black desktop after installing and upgrading so i installed kubuntu-desktop because it didn't install for some reason
[19:39] <murthy> BluesKaj: That usually happens, try starting the xserver with root permission
[19:41] <BluesKaj> well i did but kubuntu-desktop had to be installed before startx would work
[19:41] <murthy> BluesKaj: ok can you check for the bug I have given while you are testing 15.10?
[19:42] <murthy> BluesKaj: we need to do that in testing?
[19:43] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: Luara has some suggestions about the disc label, can we make changes to it?
[19:43] <murthy> BluesKaj: sorry I dont know much about testing. I usually test the betas for seeing myself
[19:44] <ahoneybun> sure, working on combining the xcfs now
[19:44] <ahoneybun> I find it funny you misspell your wifes name lol
[19:45] <ovidiu-florin> she doesn't mind
[19:48] <ahoneybun> XD
[19:49] <murthy> feeling sleepy, going to bed. see you guys later
[19:49] <ahoneybun> bye murthy
[19:49] <ovidiu-florin> night murthy
[19:50] <BluesKaj> murthy, good night
[19:51] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: any progress?
[19:51] <ahoneybun> the Front and Back xcf are up
[19:51] <ahoneybun> going to upload the disc now
[19:54] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: should have all of them now
[19:56] <ovidiu-florin> are they synced on your side?
[19:57] <ahoneybun> I just uploaded to the site
[19:58] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: haven't you set up the client?
[19:58] <ahoneybun> yep
[19:58] <ovidiu-florin> then why upload to the site?
[19:58] <ovidiu-florin> put them in the folder
[19:58] <ovidiu-florin> or, just edit those files
[20:03] <ahoneybun> its all done now
[20:06] <ovidiu-florin> I still see RO and EN XCF files
[20:06] <[Relic]> saving sessions been fixed yet?
[20:07] <ovidiu-florin> [Relic]: AFAIK saving them works, restoring them I'm having trouble with
[20:07] <ovidiu-florin> especially with hibernation
[20:08] <[Relic]> just wondered the virtual desktop layouts weren't storing when I gave up on 15.04, figured I would wait till that critical error was fixed before trying again
[20:09] <[Relic]> or restoring after reboot, or startup
[20:57] <clivejo> would anyone here know how to get my hardware volume buttons working on Toshiba laptop in Wily?
[22:39] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: please readd the text for the disc label. I've edited both the RO and EN. I don't know how to apply the text around the image
[22:40] <ahoneybun> I'll add it in a bit
[22:44] <ovidiu-florin> also, one more thing
[22:45] <ovidiu-florin> can you make in all 3 projects a layer folder Languages, and in that Add a layer folder for each language, and put in there all the text (and related) layers?
[22:45] <ovidiu-florin> so they are sorted
[22:45] <ovidiu-florin> and also keep all the language sublayesr visible, so it's easy to switch languages, by just switching the visibility of the two languages.
[22:45] <ovidiu-florin> can you do this?
[22:46] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: ^
[22:46] <ahoneybun> should be able to
[22:46] <ovidiu-florin> Leave the Back for now, I'm translating it now
[22:46] <ovidiu-florin> I'll tell you when I'm done
[22:56] <ahoneybun> check the front one, it should be good
[23:08] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: exactly what I wanted. It's awesome. I've done the same for the back
[23:09] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: please check the second back project. I've removed the extra (unused) layers
[23:09] <ovidiu-florin> please confirm that it's ok
[23:09] <ahoneybun> second back ?
[23:09] <ovidiu-florin> we should do the same with the others
[23:09] <ovidiu-florin> I've saved that in a second BACK project
[23:09] <ahoneybun> I see
[23:10] <ovidiu-florin> I'm done with the translation
[23:10] <ovidiu-florin> I'll ass for a review of the translation in the morning
[23:10] <ovidiu-florin> ask****
[23:10] <ovidiu-florin> I'm off to bed
[23:10] <ahoneybun> why a second one?
[23:10] <ovidiu-florin> thank you for your help
[23:11] <ovidiu-florin> because I wanted your confirmation that it's ok
[23:11] <ahoneybun> oh right
[23:11] <ovidiu-florin> so I wouldn't harm the original
[23:11] <ahoneybun> oh I'll look
[23:11] <ovidiu-florin> if it's ok, you can delete the original
[23:11] <ahoneybun> its good
[23:12] <ovidiu-florin> awersome
[23:12] <ovidiu-florin> then I'll clean the layers now on the front, can you please do the label?
[23:12] <ovidiu-florin> can I edit the FRONT?
[23:13] <ahoneybun> for>
[23:13] <ahoneybun> ?
[23:13] <ovidiu-florin> cleaning the layers
[23:13] <ovidiu-florin> to remove the back layers from the FRONT project
[23:14] <ahoneybun> leave that one
[23:14] <ovidiu-florin> there are a few layers in the FRONT project that contain nothing
[23:14] <ahoneybun> noo
[23:15] <ovidiu-florin> ok, then I won't touch it
[23:15] <soee_> a pretty long but detaile dand nice Plasma5 (on Kubutnu) review https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97p1eKZRzng
[23:15] <ahoneybun> thanks soee_
[23:15] <ovidiu-florin> thanks soee_
[23:15] <soee_> murthy: ^ this might be worth putting onsocial media
[23:15] <soee_> mparillo: ^
[23:15] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: everything in the FRONT on has a reason
[23:16] <soee_> mparillo: not as kubuntu review but as Plasma 5 review so user get more familiar with it
[23:16] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: then I'd make that into a template
[23:16] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: but since we have separate files for each, I see it that we have 3 tamplates: FRONT, BACK, LABEL
[23:17] <ahoneybun> like there is a layer called Workspace that is to show us where we can place designs that will be printed
[23:17] <ahoneybun> if you put it into one file it will be a mess
[23:18] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: I think I removed that layer from the BACK
[23:18] <ahoneybun> it was not in that one I think
[23:18] <ahoneybun> wait
[23:18] <ahoneybun> no it was there
[23:18] <ovidiu-florin> should I restore the deleted file?
[23:22] <ahoneybun> added back
[23:22] <ahoneybun> pulled it from the other file
[23:23] <ovidiu-florin> ok, great
[23:24] <ovidiu-florin> http://www.ocsmag.com/2015/06/27/kde-connect-2/
[23:24] <ahoneybun> Lots of things
[23:24] <ovidiu-florin> this can/should also go to social media, who should I ping for this?
[23:24] <ahoneybun> mparillo:
[23:26] <ahoneybun> thank you ovidiu-florin for those
[23:27] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: ;)
[23:27] <ahoneybun> :-)
[23:28] * ovidiu-florin ZZZZzzzzz......
[23:28] <ahoneybun> night ovidiu-florin see you in a few lol
[23:28] <ovidiu-florin> ;)
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2024-05-13T22:11:36.360320
| 2015-06-27T00:00:00 |
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"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"BluesKaj",
"Darkwing",
"JesseW1",
"Riddell",
"ScottK",
"[Relic]",
"ahoneybun",
"clivejo",
"mparillo",
"murthy",
"nixternal",
"ovidiu-florin",
"soee_",
"valorie"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/06/27/%23kubuntu-devel.txt",
"channel": "#kubuntu-devel"
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2015-06-27-#ubuntu-br
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[01:48] <MATEUS> BOA NOITE INSTALEI O UBUNTU VIA WUBI POREM NÃO ESTA INICIANDO
[01:48] <MATEUS> ESTA APRESENTANDO PROBLEMAS NO ARQUIVO wubildr.mbr
[01:49] <MATEUS> AO INICIAR O COMPUTADOR
[01:50] <astroo-> ola e usa letra minuscuka
[01:52] <MATEUS> ok
[01:53] <astroo-> da uns 15 minutos pela possivel resposta de alguem
[01:53] <MATEUS> boa noite instalei o ubuntu via wubi porem não esta iniciando
[01:53] <MATEUS> esta apresentando problemas no arquivo wubildr.mbr
[02:00] <MATEUS> alguem pode me ajudar
[02:00] <MATEUS> ?
[02:04] <omelete> ultima versão do ubuntu ñ suporta wubi
[02:04] <omelete> tem q pegar uma antiga 2014
[02:08] <vibewill> ola
[02:10] <vibewill> alguem sabe qual versao do wine consigu rodar jogos online
[02:10] <vibewill> pq wine ainda nao esta 100% com directx
[02:11] <vibewill> entao esta dando muitas falhas em alguns jogos
[02:11] <MATEUS> onde eu baixo essa versão sabe?
[02:12] <vibewill> eu rodo jogos no crossover
[02:13] <vibewill> mais ainda nao roda todos os jogos
[02:13] <astroo-> ola
[02:13] <vibewill> ola
[02:14] <vibewill> to tentando roda perfect world a 1 ano e nada
[02:15] <vibewill> ate entra no jogo mais da um report bug
[02:15] <astroo-> e ter paciencia para a possivel cura
[02:16] <vibewill> deveria ter uma seginda opcao fora wine
[02:16] <vibewill> a unica coisa que falata linux e rodar os jogos
[02:17] <vibewill> pq axo deficil os desevolvedores criar versoes para linux
[02:18] <vibewill> seria mais facil o wine ter maior compatibilidade
[02:18] <vibewill> com directx
[03:52] <astroo-> ciao pessoal
[05:51] <PAM> ola galera tudo bem
[05:51] <PAM> sou usuario linux há um tempo, mas como sou conservador, não costumo atualizar o meu desktop sempre
[05:51] <KurtKraut> PAM, eu atualizo todos os dias :D
[05:51] <KurtKraut> PAM, E meu servidor pessoal idem.
[05:52] <PAM> gostaria de saber qual distribuição utilizar, no ambiente de trabalho, para que tenha o minimo de dificuldade em instalar programas imporessoras
[05:52] <PAM> trabalho digo utilizar basicamente no escritorio
[05:53] <PAM> uso debian 5, mas estou com problemas de drives de impressoras novas
[05:53] <KurtKraut> PAM, Use o Ubuntu 15.04.
[05:53] <PAM> lts
[05:53] <PAM> ok
[05:55] <PAM> e esse @Warez-Android SCR-Screen-Recorder-Pro-root-0.21.7.apk
[05:55] <PAM> desculpe
[05:55] <PAM> esse The MX4 Ubuntu Edition
[05:55] <PAM> estou namorando este celular, mas é importado, e agora com ubuntu vai ficar show
[05:56] <PAM> Meizu mx4
[13:25] <mirqui> bom dia :)
[14:44] <Douglas_> Bom dia, trabalho com ferramentas de desenvolvimento gráfico e ferramentas de programação, quando utilizo a ferramente gráfico para o meu trabalho na versão Ubuntu 15.04 ele com uns tempos, nem todas as vezes isso dar, mas em alguns momentos ele da pau no ubuntu, o ubuntu fica totalmente travado e sempre tenho que desligar a força, a mesma coisa ocorre na ferramenta de programação, e uma coisa também, ocorreu a mesma coi
[15:41] <mirqui> boa tarde :)
[18:38] <farf> Olá novamente, bom eu instalei o meu Ubuntu através de um software que eu baixei pela internet no Windows, acontece que nele falava quando de espaço era pra usar algo do tipo, só que eu pensei que era só pra instalação, tipo pra ver se instalava mais coisas caso tivesse mais espaço, então eu optei por colocar 5GB, só que eu pensei então que mesmo com esses 5GBs, eu conseguiria usar a partição que tem 25GB livres ainda de boa, porém hoje perceb
[18:38] <farf> o, que parece que ele só ta usando os 5GBS mesmo, quando eu tento baixar alguma coisa principalmente atualizar o sistema operacional, dá erro dizendo que o espaço tá cheio, sendo que tem 25gb de espaço livre no disco ainda, ai então gostaria de saber, como faço pra aumentar o espaço do sistema operacional, sem que eu precise formatar ele novamente, grato desde já!
[20:36] <astroo-> ola pessoal
[22:09] <jarvis> boa noite
[22:09] <Guest69044> boa noite
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:36.375465
| 2015-06-27T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"Douglas_",
"Guest69044",
"KurtKraut",
"MATEUS",
"PAM",
"astroo-",
"farf",
"jarvis",
"mirqui",
"omelete",
"vibewill"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/06/27/%23ubuntu-br.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-br"
}
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2015-06-27-#ubuntu-locoteams
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[06:12] <Kilos> morning all
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:36.376682
| 2015-06-27T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"Kilos"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/06/27/%23ubuntu-locoteams.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-locoteams"
}
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2015-06-27-#xubuntu-devel
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[19:54] <bluesabre> my internet has returned!
[20:17] <knome> hooray!
[22:32] <Noskcaj> bluesabre, Is it ok for me to upload hotcorner-plugin to xubuntu-extras?
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:36.377371
| 2015-06-27T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"Noskcaj",
"bluesabre",
"knome"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/06/27/%23xubuntu-devel.txt",
"channel": "#xubuntu-devel"
}
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2015-06-27-#ubuntu-us-mi
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[14:16] <cmaloney> Good morning
[14:33] <brousch> Yes
[14:54] <cmaloney> And it was good.
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:36.379368
| 2015-06-27T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"brousch",
"cmaloney"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/06/27/%23ubuntu-us-mi.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-us-mi"
}
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2015-06-27-#ubuntu-pt
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[03:52] <astroo-> ciao pessoal
[20:36] <astroo-> ola pessoal
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:36.379867
| 2015-06-27T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"astroo-"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/06/27/%23ubuntu-pt.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-pt"
}
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2015-06-04-#ubuntu-ir
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[13:06] <thomson> :)
[13:07] <thomson> che ajab irc bala umad
[16:57] <thomson> ls -ltrh :D
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:36.384116
| 2015-06-04T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"thomson"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/06/04/%23ubuntu-ir.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-ir"
}
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2015-06-04-#ubuntu-se
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[07:13] <NeverW8> gﾃ､sp
[09:22] <K350> gimp frﾃ･ga: Gﾃ･r det att vﾃ､xla frﾃ･n att se hela bilden och bara den markerad eomrﾃ･det?
[12:19] <Whiskey> Finns det nﾃ･got sﾃ､tt att fﾃ･ fram en lista pﾃ･ alla genvﾃ､gar i terminalen nﾃ､r man ﾃ､r i en mapp?
[12:30] <Hund> Whiskey: Vilka genvﾃ､gar tﾃ､nker du pﾃ･ dﾃ･? Genvﾃ､gar till mappar?
[12:43] <Whiskey> hehe
[12:43] <Whiskey> jag har det :D
[12:43] <Whiskey> find /home/me/this/* -type l ! -name 'this' ! -name 'that' ! -path '*/and/* :D
[12:56] <Hund> Annars fungera vﾃ､l ls?
[14:42] <Whiskey> Hund, fick inte det att funka
[14:46] <Hund> Whiskey: Dﾃ･ ﾃ､r jag inte helt hundra pﾃ･ vad du fﾃｶrsﾃｶker gﾃｶra.
[15:40] <molgrum> hmm, i debian kﾃｶr man systemctl daemon-reload (eller nﾃ･t liknande) nﾃ､r man modifierat skript i /etc/init.d. nﾃ･gon som vet vad ubuntus motsvarighet ﾃ､r?
[15:45] <molgrum> aha, ﾃ､r det "reload"?
[15:45] <molgrum> den refererar till initctl
[17:18] <Hund> molgrum: Ubuntu kﾃｶr vﾃ､l med systemd nu ocksﾃ･?
[17:29] <larsemil> mm prisa gudarna!
[18:11] <molgrum> mysko, pﾃ･ min 14.04.2 LTS sﾃ･ finns inte /lib/init/init-d-script men det finns pﾃ･ 15.04 hﾃ､r hemma
[18:12] <molgrum> nﾃ･n som kan dubbelkolla? :)
[18:13] <molgrum> aha, den ligger i /lib/lsb/init-functions
[18:15] <molgrum> nvm then :P
[21:23] <sireorion> gokvﾃ､ll
[21:23] <sireorion> nﾃ･gon som e insatt i virtuella maskiner
[21:26] <sireorion> brb reboot
[21:26] <sireorion> reboot
[21:28] <sireorion> sﾃ･ tillbaka
[22:33] <Linda^> Philip5: Hund har saknat dig!
[22:49] <Philip5> Linda^: inte du dﾃ･? :(
[22:49] <Linda^> Philip5: Tydligen ﾃ､r det ju jag som kidnappat dig, sﾃ･. nej? :P
[22:50] <Philip5> kidnappat mig?
[22:50] <Linda^> Ja, hunden trodde det.
[22:50] <Philip5> jo det ﾃ､r klart. det ﾃ､r ju lﾃ､tt att tro sﾃ･nt om dig
[22:51] <Linda^> haha va?
[22:51] <Philip5> ja du sitter uppe om nﾃ､tterna med bara irc som sﾃ､llskap och sﾃ･ finns jag dﾃ､r... up for grabs...
[22:51] <Linda^> Jag sov inatt skaru veta!
[23:04] <Philip5> Linda^: sﾃ､ger du bara
[23:05] <Hund> Philip5: Vad gﾃｶr du nu fﾃｶr tiden nﾃ､r du inte ﾃ､r upptagen med din repo? :P
[23:06] <Linda^> Philip5: :(
[23:09] <Philip5> Hund: trakaserar Linda^
[23:10] * Linda^ tycker synd om sig sjﾃ､lv (eftersom ingen annan gﾃｶr det)
[23:11] <Philip5> :P
[23:12] <Linda^> Jag har ju gﾃ･tt och blivit sjuk och grejjer, sﾃ･ kommeru hﾃ､r och trakasserar ocksﾃ･
[23:12] <Philip5> nﾃ､men stackars liten
[23:13] <Hund> haha
[23:14] <Linda^> och hunden skrattar
[23:15] <Hund> Jag skrattar ﾃ･t Philip5. Allt kretsar inte kring dig. ;)
[23:15] <Philip5> nﾃ､ allt kretsar kring mig :)
[23:16] <Linda^> hah!
[23:16] <Hund> :D
[23:17] <Linda^> du skrattar ﾃ･t Philip5 som mobbar mig
[23:17] <Linda^> sﾃ･ indirekt handlar det ju om mig
[23:17] <Philip5> livets hjul
[23:17] <Hund> Jag kom pﾃ･ det nﾃ､r jag skrev det man jag hoppades pﾃ･ att du inte skulle tﾃ､nka pﾃ･ det. :P
[23:19] <Philip5> men om Linda^ ﾃ､r sjuk sﾃ･ tycker jag inte det ﾃ､r mer ﾃ､n rﾃ､tt att skratta ﾃ･t henne
[23:19] <Philip5> veka Linda^ ;P
[23:19] <Linda^> haha
[23:19] <Linda^> fyfan
[23:19] <Philip5> lyteskomik ﾃ､r den bﾃ､sta komiken
[23:19] <Philip5> snorlinda
[23:20] * Linda^ snorar pﾃ･ Philip5
[23:20] <Philip5> ajabaja
[23:20] <Linda^> Sﾃ･ kan det gﾃ･
[23:21] <Philip5> fﾃ･r nog sﾃ､tta munkavle pﾃ･ dig
[23:23] <Linda^> Jo, fﾃｶrsﾃｶka gﾃ･r ju
[23:23] <Linda^> fast jag snorar inte med munnen :)
[23:24] <Hund> Du kanske dreglar nﾃ､r du ser Philip5.
[23:25] <Hund> Nej, det hﾃ､r gﾃ･r inte. Jag mﾃ･ste sova! God natt pﾃ･ er!
[23:25] <Philip5> Hund fﾃ･r sﾃ･dana fantasier
[23:26] <Linda^> haha
[23:26] <Linda^> han blir helt till sig
[23:26] <Philip5> och hans psykiatriker har sagt att han mﾃ･ste sluta fantisera sﾃ･
[23:27] <Linda^> Stackars lilla hund
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:36.440995
| 2015-06-04T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"Hund",
"K350",
"Linda^",
"NeverW8",
"Philip5",
"Whiskey",
"larsemil",
"molgrum",
"sireorion"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/06/04/%23ubuntu-se.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-se"
}
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2015-06-04-#ubuntu-us-ca
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[02:35] <Roguehorse> Well, I got rid of Debian and switched back to Kubuntu
[02:36] <Roguehorse> Debian is a really nice platform but required too much hoop jumping to do things that are simple with Ubuntu
[02:49] <DonkeyHotei> ubuntu is the ancient african word for "can't set up debian"
[03:47] <Roguehorse> Cute joke, but it's BS
[03:52] <nhaines> The joke's about 9 or 10 years old and was quite true at the time.
[04:04] <DonkeyHotei> 11 years actually
[04:05] <DonkeyHotei> granted, the first two versions of ubuntu weren't that good, but then it picked up
[04:16] * ianorlin hasn't been using it that long
[04:49] <ianorlin> https://gist.github.com/3e67a6e99425be868651 this makes little sense
[04:49] <darthrobot> [R: gist.github.com] Title: [-]
[15:31] <Roguehorse> yeah, I didn't start in on ubuntu until 9.10
[15:31] <Roguehorse> the first unity of 11.04 didn't work well for me so I bailed to openSUSE
[15:32] <Roguehorse> then openSUSE started to have a lot of problem so I went back to Kubuntu
[15:35] <Roguehorse> Kubuntu seems to just work really well (at least for me) so I'll be sticking this out for a while
[18:52] <ianorlin> I actually supringsly started with 13.04 and lubuntu
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:36.449724
| 2015-06-04T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"DonkeyHotei",
"Roguehorse",
"darthrobot",
"ianorlin",
"nhaines"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/06/04/%23ubuntu-us-ca.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-us-ca"
}
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2015-06-04-#ubuntu-ru
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[04:22] <Planzar> Кубунта подвисла после вызова в Амароке меню Вид.
[10:14] <tagezi> утра всем
[10:16] <Planzar> Уже обед.
[10:59] <tagezi> Planzar: конда встал - тогда и утро
[11:32] <Planzar> *зависть*
[11:44] <tagezi> Planzar: забыдуешь что яплю по 4-6 часов в сутки?
[11:46] <SergeyIT> заметно )
[11:47] <tagezi> =)
[11:47] <tagezi> я уже и говорю примерно так же
[12:45] <Planzar> Вуртату всё время меняет аватар на одно и то же.
[18:31] <ViTiL> !nick ViTiL
[18:31] <ubuntuhelp> В моей энциклопедии этого нет, однако посмотри на http://www.google.ru/search?hl=ru&q='nick ViTiL'
[19:40] <Sergey_IT> вечера
[19:57] <tagezi> угу
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:36.456056
| 2015-06-04T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"Planzar",
"SergeyIT",
"Sergey_IT",
"ViTiL",
"tagezi",
"ubuntuhelp"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/06/04/%23ubuntu-ru.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-ru"
}
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2015-06-04-#launchpad-dev
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[02:03] <blr> wgrant: do you see anything obviously wrong with the validation or call to getByPath on l.829? https://code.launchpad.net/~blr/launchpad/ui-project-setbranch/+merge/259069
[02:04] <blr> wgrant: user 'kit' owns 'gitrepository-100046' yet getUtility(IGitRepositorySet).getByPath(kit, 'gitrepository-100046') is None (have tried with git_identity and other forms as well)
[02:05] <wgrant> blr: getByPath takes a user for privilege checking, and a full repository path.
[02:05] <wgrant> eg. the user should enter ~kit/project
[02:05] <wgrant> Or ~kit/project/+git/some-non-default-repo
[02:07] <blr> wgrant: is the interface comment misleading?
[02:07] <blr> s/comment/docstring/
[02:08] <wgrant> blr: Looks fine to me. It specifies the valid forms.
[02:08] <wgrant> What's confusing about it?
[02:09] <blr> '~kit/product-name-100049/+git/gitrepository-100046' returns a repo, however '~kit/+git/gitrepository-100046' does not
[02:09] <wgrant> blr: The latter is a personal repo; one not related to a project.
[02:09] <blr> aah
[02:09] <blr> of course, sorry.
[02:16] <blr> wgrant: pity zope IField doesn't support arbitrary attributes, or more specifically 'placeholder'
[02:16] <blr> default isn't quite the same
[02:17] <wgrant> blr: Right, that's more of an attribute of the widget, I think.
[02:17] <wgrant> eg. a widget could use the title as a placeholder.
[02:18] <blr> it would be nice to have the expected form for the git repo path as a placeholder, but perhaps I'll just add it the label
[02:18] <blr> I suppose I could set it in the js, but that might be a little odd.
[02:19] <blr> will be less of an issue once we have a search modal for git.
[02:20] <wgrant> Yep, search will make it much better. It's also a relatively uncommon case.
[02:33] <blr> wgrant: from [code]/project configure hosting is still for the series, do we want that to also point to project setbranch? That would leave project/[series] as the only means of configuring a series branch
[02:33] <wgrant> blr: I think that's very reasonable.
[02:34] <blr> yep, possibly even confusing in its current state.
[11:17] <cjwatson> wgrant: Nice, I didn't know about variable_name_prefix in batchnavs.
[11:18] <wgrant> cjwatson: I only knew about it from +members
[11:18] <wgrant> That's quite possibly the only other callsite.
[11:19] <cjwatson> wgrant: There's one other, BugTrackerSet:+index
[11:20] <wgrant> Ah, so there is.
[11:20] <cjwatson> https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/1455907 suggests that the +members use doesn't work ideally, but that isn't really a batchnav problem as such.
[11:20] <mup> Bug #1455907: Every "Former members" batch page starts with a list of "Active members" <Launchpad itself:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1455907>
[11:20] <wgrant> Yeah
[11:21] <cjwatson> Except in that maybe batchnav Next should do AJAX rather than reloading the whole page
[11:21] <wgrant> It can be fixed by anchors, only showing one half on subsequent batches, or using the AJAX batchnav stuff.
[11:23] <cjwatson> I see the FF for the last is disabled on prod
[11:23] <cjwatson> Indeed, everywhere
[11:24] <wgrant> I think AJAX batchnav is only enabled for +bugs
[11:24] <cjwatson> Branches too
[11:24] <wgrant> I'd forgotten it was even implemented for +branches until I saw the code.
[11:24] <cjwatson> But it's behind a disabled feature flag in both cases
[11:24] <wgrant> No, +bugs has been AJAXed since 2013.
[11:25] <cjwatson> Huh, that's interesting because I see ajax.batch_navigator.enabled mentioned in lib/lp/bugs/templates/bugs-listing-table.pt and that flag is definitely off.
[11:26] <wgrant> Is that the right template?
[11:26] <cjwatson> Perhaps not.
[11:26] <wgrant> Hm, I think it is.
[11:26] <wgrant> But there's a whole lot of custom JS for that page.
[11:40] <danilos> launchpad consistently times out when I attempt to comment on my MP (ajax just mentiones a server problem after ~30s, but if I go to +comment and try to submit, I get http://people.canonical.com/~danilo/tmp/lp-problem.png): any known issues?
[11:41] <danilos> MP in question is https://code.launchpad.net/~danilo/landscape-charm/actions/+merge/260916
[11:42] <wgrant> danilos: Yep, looks like a weird postgres issue, we're investigating.
[11:42] <danilos> wgrant, ok, thanks (I've even tried sending an email, still hasn't shown up)
[11:54] <cjwatson> danilos: The mail processor will be writing to the same table, indeed.
[11:54] <danilos> cjwatson, yeah, I was hoping the problem was somewhere between haproxy and lp appservers :)
[11:54] <cjwatson> No such luck.
[11:54] <danilos> yeah, got it
[11:58] <wgrant> danilos: Should all be OK again now.
[11:59] <danilos> wgrant, repeated comments have gotten through, fwiw (not a big deal, just letting you guys know)
[12:00] <wgrant> cjwatson: Oh, I didn't realise IGitCollection handled PersonProduct etc.
[12:01] <cjwatson> Yup, I overachieved slightly on the adapters since it was easy.
[12:55] <cjwatson> Top tip to self: it's more likely that somebody will review my merge proposals if I actually remember to propose them.
[21:01] <blr> wgrant: cjwatson: any suggestions for a user response for GitTargetError that is likely to make sense to them?
[21:01] <blr> "repo attached to another target" may not be meaningful
[21:21] <blr> hmm, well I'll go with that for now given it isn't the typical case.
[21:24] <cjwatson> blr: I think that your form field should be using a vocabulary that only offers repositories attached to the correct target.
[21:24] <blr> cjwatson: I think we decided to defer the repository search modal
[21:25] <blr> cjwatson: so the case here is just providing the user with a git_repository_location TextLine
[21:26] <blr> I believe the only error paths are repo not found, and target error
[21:28] <blr> cjwatson: just updating the configure code link on [code]/project, but perhaps you could have a look in review if there's a better way.
[21:29] <blr> I'll ping you
[22:20] <wgrant> blr: It could still have a non-searchable vocab.
[23:29] <blr> wgrant: ok, so presumably we want something like ValidTargetDefault?
[23:30] <wgrant> blr: Any Git repository for the target is valid.
[23:30] <wgrant> blr: What does the branch equivalent do? It has pretty much the same rules, but we don't need searching yet.
[23:32] <blr> hmm branch_location doesn't have a vocabulary afaict
[23:34] <wgrant> blr: How's it validated?
[23:34] <wgrant> It's possible that it isn't; there are some cross-project relations that shouldn't exist, but they might be from branches that have been moved later.
[23:36] <blr> wgrant: yep only validated for presence
[23:37] <wgrant> blr: OK, then it might not be worth using a vocab just yet. Manually validate the target and use an error message like "Repository is in a different project." or similar?
[23:37] <blr> okay, that's what I have atm
[23:38] <wgrant> Really weird that the branch case wouldn't use a vocab already!
[23:39] <blr> branch_type does
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[20:21] <unityiscrap> So when will that unity jokestop being playedon ubuntu users
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[00:43] <backtrack> salve
[00:50] <backtrack> ho installato kali linux su un portatile, ma non mi permette di connettermi ad internet, dice che i servizi di rete non sono compatibili con questa versione
[01:20] <backtrack> c'è qualcuno?
[07:06] * bobotm buongiorno
[08:45] <akis24> giorno
[08:51] <solo1> problema creare con mdadm raid1 da un server che aveva presente solo un hd non raid
[09:05] <Lenders> Salve a tutti, ho un problema con il progrmma Gimp. Io ho Ubuntu 15.04 e praticamente lagga molto soprattutto se devo muovere delle immagini all'interno. Non è sicuramente un problema del mio pc in quanto molto potente e poi su photoshop non ho nessun problema. Sapete dirmi se è il problema Gimp o qualche impostazione varia?
[09:06] <cristian_c> Lenders, non hai detto quale pc possiedi
[09:06] <cristian_c> cpu, ram, ma sopratutto scheda grafica
[09:06] <Lenders> hp envy
[09:06] <Lenders> ram 16 gb
[09:06] <Lenders> intel i7
[09:06] <cristian_c> Lenders, perché ho la strana sensazione tu sia l'utente di ieri sera?
[09:07] <cristian_c> lillo
[09:07] <Lenders> non mi connetto da settimane qui
[09:07] <Lenders> non so di che cosa tu stia parlando
modello envy
envi 17
16 gb ram processore e un qud coire
[09:08] <Lenders> guarda stai prendendo un granchio io non mi connetto da un pò quindi se ti va di aiutarmi ti ringrazio
[09:08] <cristian_c> Lenders, scheda grafica nvidia?
[09:09] <Lenders> nvidia gforce
[09:10] <cristian_c> Lenders, ha anche un nome?
[09:10] <Lenders> cosa?
[09:12] <cristian_c> Lenders, la gpu
[09:12] <Lenders> cristian_c nvidia gforce 740 m
[09:13] <cristian_c> Lenders, apri un terminale e digita: sudo apt-get update && lshw -c video
[09:13] <cristian_c> !paste | Lenders
[09:13] <ubot-it> Lenders: http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[09:13] <Lenders> ok provo
[09:14] <Lenders> ti posto quello che mi dice alla fine o tutto il procedimento?
[09:16] <cristian_c> Lenders, posta il risultato nel terminale
[09:16] <cristian_c> quando il comando ha finito
[09:16] <cristian_c> *del
[09:17] <cristian_c> Lenders, su pastebin
[09:18] <Lenders> cristian_c allora mi fa tutto il procedimento che mi scarica i dati e alla fine mi dice così http://paste.ubuntu.com/11561572/
[09:19] <cristian_c> Lenders, manca il comando
[09:19] <cristian_c> Lenders, posta tutto, per piacere
[09:19] <cristian_c> Lenders, oppure
[09:20] <cristian_c> Lenders, sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[09:20] <cristian_c> Lenders, e poi: sudo apt-get update | pastebinit
[09:20] <Lenders> cristian_c ti ho postato tutto http://paste.ubuntu.com/11561611/
[09:21] <cristian_c> Lenders, e poi: lshw -c video | pastebinit
[09:21] <cristian_c> Lenders, beh
[09:22] <cristian_c> stai già utilizzando i driver nvidia, ma vedo che sono in uso pure i driver intel
[09:22] <cristian_c> Lenders, quindi stai consumando risorse hardware notevoli
[09:22] <Lenders> ovvero?
[09:22] <cristian_c> Lenders, digita: apt-cache policy | pastebinit
[09:22] <cristian_c> oops
[09:22] <cristian_c> Lenders, digita: apt-cache policy nvidia | pastebinit
[09:22] <cristian_c> e: dpkg -l | grep nvidia | pastebinit
[09:23] <Lenders> e devo installare paste bin
[09:24] <Lenders> un momento
[09:25] <Lenders> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11561799/ questo ti interessa?
[09:26] <cristian_c> Lenders, digita i comandi che ho indicato
[09:27] <Lenders> cristian_c i tuoi due ultimi comando mi riportano questo http://paste.ubuntu.com/11561799/ e http://paste.ubuntu.com/11561823/
[09:28] <cristian_c> Lenders, come hai installato i driver nvidia?
[09:29] <Lenders> su ubuntu io faccio l'update nella sezione update normale su windows ho il programma gforce che me li aggiorna automaticamente ma non versioni beta solo collaudate
[09:30] <cristian_c> Lenders, la domanda è: come li hai installati?
[09:31] <cristian_c> visto che si parla di driver proprietari
[09:31] <cristian_c> e hai detto di utilizzare la 15.04
[09:32] <Lenders> cristian_c su ubuntu si sono installati da soli non li ho installati manualmente io su windows faccio l'update dal programmino gforce su ubuntu mi limito a fare l'aggiornamento normale questo è tutto
[09:33] <cristian_c> Lenders, mi stai dicendo forse che non ci sono i driver open per la tua scheda sulla 15.04?
[09:33] <cristian_c> Lenders, posta una schermata di driver aggiuntivi
[09:33] <cristian_c> *Driver aggiuntivi
[09:34] <cristian_c> Lenders, anzi, digita: sudo ubuntu-drivers list | pastebinit
[09:34] <Lenders> cristian_c io ho cambiato solo una cosa quando ho installato ubuntu mi faceva selezionare se usare i driver open o proprietari e ho scelto proprietari
[09:34] <cristian_c> Lenders, e: sudo ubuntu-drivers devices | pastebinit
[09:34] <cristian_c> Lenders, da un tuo precedente output non risultano installati gli nvidia
[09:35] <cristian_c> nvidia:
[09:35] <cristian_c> Installato: (nessuno)
[09:35] <cristian_c> Candidato: (nessuno)
[09:35] <cristian_c> Tabella versione:
[09:35] <cristian_c> Lenders, ok, scusami, ho capito
[09:35] <cristian_c> Lenders, digita: apt-cache policy nvidia-346 | pastebinit
[09:35] <Lenders> cristian_c http://paste.ubuntu.com/11562001/ e http://paste.ubuntu.com/11562009/
[09:36] <Lenders> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11562021/
[09:37] <cristian_c> ok
[09:37] <cristian_c> Lenders, a questo punto, apri nvidia settings
[09:37] <cristian_c> Lenders, sudo nvidia-settings
[09:37] <Lenders> ho fatto dalla dash poi?
[09:38] <cristian_c> Lenders, ti ha chiesto la password di root?
[09:38] <Lenders> aspetta che allora faccio da terminale
[09:38] <cristian_c> sì
[09:38] <cristian_c> chiudi la precedente nvidia-settings, prima
[09:39] <Lenders> si mi chiede la psw
[09:41] <cristian_c> ok
[09:41] <N3mo> Buongiorno, Come posso disabilitare un processo all' avvio? Anche se vado su avvio automatico e tolgo la spunta me lo ritrovo rispuntato ad ogni riavvio.... Kubuntu 15.04
[09:41] <cristian_c> dagliela
[09:41] <Lenders> fatto
[09:41] <cristian_c> N3mo, solo con la 15.04?
[09:42] <cristian_c> Lenders, nella finestra che compare
[09:42] <N3mo> cristian_c: In che senso? ho installato solo quella
[09:42] <cristian_c> Lenders, controlla la parte prime
[09:42] <cristian_c> N3mo, potrebbe essere un bug di kde5 , magari
[09:43] <N3mo> Capito.
[09:43] <cristian_c> Lenders, in particolare la sezione dei profili prime
[09:43] <N3mo> Allora attendo :D
[09:43] <Lenders> ti posto il terminale ok?
[09:43] <N3mo> !pastebin
[09:43] <ubot-it> http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[09:43] <cristian_c> Lenders, una schermata puoi?
[09:43] <cristian_c> !image
[09:43] <ubot-it> Carica un'immagine su https://imgur.com/ | http://imageshack.us/ (richiede registrazione) e metti un collegamento ad essa in canale.
[09:43] <Lenders> ok un attimo
[09:46] <Lenders> cristian_c http://i.imgur.com/YNOytHG.png
[09:47] <N3mo> Lenders: Scarica un client di irc....
[09:47] <Lenders> ?
[09:47] <cristian_c> Lenders, seleziona PRIME profiles
[09:48] <Lenders> cristian_c appare selezionato nvidia
[09:48] <matteo_> buongiorno sto cercando di masterizzare un dvd su immagine, .iso con brasero, ma mi esce questo errore: L'installazione dei pacchetti dai file non è supportata uesto metodo non è stato ancora implementato.
[09:48] <matteo_> cosa devo fare?
[09:50] <cristian_c> Lenders, non sono sicuro che la intel sia disabilitata
[09:50] <cristian_c> Lenders, se provi a riselezionarla, che cosa esce sul terminale?
[09:50] <akis24> matteo_: installare i codec credo manchino che versione di ubuntu usi ?
[09:51] <matteo_> 15.04
[09:51] <matteo_> mi dai il comando per favore
[09:51] <Lenders> cristian_c http://i.imgur.com/rV2cB98.png
[09:52] <akis24> matteo apri il terminale e dai sudo apt-get dist-upgrade e metti su pastebin
[09:52] <akis24> !paste | matteo_
[09:52] <ubot-it> matteo_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[09:52] <cristian_c> Lenders, ok
[09:52] <cristian_c> Lenders, prova a fare quanto dice
[09:52] <cristian_c> ma devo capire se c'è un comando che conferma l'esclusione della intel
[09:53] <Lenders> ok a fra poco
[09:53] <cristian_c> Lenders, perché se vengono usate tutte e due, c'è un maggiore consumo energetico, aumento di temperature
[09:53] <cristian_c> ecc..
[09:53] <matteo_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11562183/
[09:53] <matteo_> akis24,
[09:53] <akis24> matteo_: adesso dai sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras e sempre su paste il risultato
[09:54] <Lenders> però non è meglio se stanno entrambe e soprattuto non credo che si creano problemi se stanno insieme
[09:54] <cristian_c> Lenders, prima hai lamentato problemi con gimp
[09:54] <cristian_c> magari su windows hai solo la intel o solo la nvidia attivata
[09:54] <cristian_c> con la spiegazione della differenza di performance
[09:54] <Lenders> cristian_c e secondo te è davvero dovuto a questo? su windows non ho problemi
[09:55] <cristian_c> Lenders, dico solo che ho visto entrambe le schede attive
[09:55] <cristian_c> in uno dei paste
[09:55] <matteo_> akis24, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11562203/
[09:55] <cristian_c> quindi satebbe preferibile disattivare quella che non serve
[09:55] <Lenders> proviamo
[09:57] <cristian_c> http://askubuntu.com/questions/578653/xubuntu-14-04-how-do-i-know-if-im-using-my-nvidia-740m-when-playing-games
[09:57] <akis24> matteo_: prova e vedi se funziona ora
[09:58] <matteo_> no
[09:58] <matteo_> akis24, non va
[10:00] <matteo_> akis24, errore http://paste.ubuntu.com/11562257/
[10:00] <Lenders> cristian_c ho fatto ma gimp lagga uguale
[10:02] <akis24> matteo_: dai sudo apt-get install libdvdcss.so.2
[10:03] <cristian_c> Lenders, l'opzione prime mi sembra la migliore
[10:03] <cristian_c> rispetto a bumblebee o rispetto ai driver open con altre soluzioni
[10:03] <matteo_> akis24, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11562388/
[10:03] <cristian_c> ma io pensavo che la intel fosse disattivata se in nvidia-settings la spunta è su nvidia (performance)
[10:04] <cristian_c> Lenders, se selezioni intel e rifai il login, cosa accade?
[10:04] <cristian_c> sempre problemi con gimp anche in quel caso?
[10:04] <akis24> matteo_: dai sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2
[10:04] <Lenders> cristian_c provo subito
[10:05] <matteo_> akis24, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11562495/
[10:06] <akis24> matteo posta il risultato di sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:08] <matteo_> akis24, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11562523/
[10:08] <Lenders> cristian_c niente sempre problemi
[10:09] <akis24> matteo_: hai dei ppa sul sistema che creano problemi dovresti rimuoverli o perlomeno disattivarli
[10:10] <matteo_> come posso fare?
[10:14] <Lenders> cristian_c ci sei ancora?
[10:14] <cristian_c> un attimo
[10:16] <akis24> matteo_: digita sudo software-properties-gtk vai sulla finestra altro software e togli la spunta sui ppa e dopo ridai sudo apt-get update
[10:19] <matteo_> Le informazioni sul software disponibile non sono aggiornate
[10:19] <matteo_> È necessario ricaricare le informazioni sul software disponibile per installare software e aggiornamenti provenienti da sorgenti aggiunte o modificate di recente.
[10:19] <matteo_> Per continuare è necessaria una connessione a Internet funzionante.
[10:19] <matteo_> do ricarica o chiudi?
[10:19] <akis24> matteo_: ricarica
[10:21] <matteo_> fatto
[10:21] <akis24> matteo_: fai vedere .. sudo apt-get update
[10:21] <matteo_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11562686/ akis24
[10:22] <akis24> matteo_: ora dai sudo apt-get install libdvdread4 quando finisce dai sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh e metti sempre su paste tutto
[10:23] <matteo_> akis24, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11562698/
[10:24] <akis24> matteo_: per sicurezza riavvia e riprova vedi se funziona
[10:24] <matteo_> grazie alla prossima
[10:25] <cristian_c> Lenders, a questo punto, non saprei
[10:25] <cristian_c> va oltre le mie capacità
[10:25] <cristian_c> Lenders, puoi provare a controllare carico su cpu e ram
[10:25] <cristian_c> e le temperature
[10:25] <cristian_c> quando riscontri dei lag
[10:25] <Lenders> come faccio
[10:25] <cristian_c> Lenders, ma solo con gimp o anche con altri carichi pesanti?
[10:26] <cristian_c> Lenders, che cosa?
[10:27] <Lenders> cristian_c io ho usato solo gimp al momento come programma più "pesante" con gli altri tutto bene...ti ripeto su windows uso programmi come premiere pro che davvero sono pesantissimi e mai un lag anzi
[10:31] <Lenders> cristian_c quindi non ti viene nulla in mente?
[10:32] <cristian_c> Lenders, ripeto, è la configurazione delle due schede grafiche
[10:32] <cristian_c> Lenders, non ho capito cosa non riesci a fare
come faccio
[10:34] <Lenders> cristian_c a controllare la ram come dicevi da ubuntu...comunque se si tratta di configurazione una via di uscita ci sarà
[10:38] <Lenders> ?
[10:40] <cristian_c> Lenders, dal monitor di sistema
[10:40] <cristian_c> o chiamato anche task manager
[10:41] <Lenders> cristian_c ok allora non hai niente in mente per aiutarmi?
[10:41] <cristian_c> Lenders, intanto hai guardato quello che ho suggerito?
[10:45] <Lenders> cristian_c si ora niente di anomalo la memoria ram è praticamente inutilizzata
[10:47] <cristian_c> Lenders, e stai usando gimp?
[10:47] <cristian_c> e la cpu?
[10:47] <Lenders> ovvio
[10:47] <cristian_c> e le temperature
[10:47] <cristian_c> Lenders, lagga?
[10:48] <Lenders> cristian_c le temperaure non mi appaiono le cpu si vede che si mettono in funziona ma non vedo nulla di anomalo e gimp continua nel suo lag
[10:49] <cristian_c> Lenders, controlla le temperature
[10:49] <cristian_c> Lenders, a quanto arriva la cpu?
[10:49] <Lenders> non mi appaiono
[10:49] <Lenders> il pc comunque no si surriscalda mai
[10:49] <cristian_c> Lenders, devi abilitare il monitoraggio
[10:49] <Lenders> ti mando una foto comunque
[10:49] <cristian_c> ok
[10:49] <cristian_c> Lenders, sulla cpu non hai detto
[10:50] <cristian_c> Lenders, ti consiglio un ulteriore test, non solo con gimp
[10:50] <cristian_c> prova a fare qualche altro lavoro equiparabile a gimp in termini di pesantezza
[10:50] <cristian_c> e vedi se riscontri lo stesso problema
[10:51] <Lenders> cristian le 8 cpu variano in continuazione
[10:51] <cristian_c> Lenders, perché non so se c'è qualche problema di gimp con prime, sto facendo ipotesi
[10:51] <Lenders> non so che programma usare
[10:51] <cristian_c> Lenders, intendi 8 thread, perché i core saranno quattro
[10:51] <Lenders> cristian_c mi appaiono 8 cpu
[10:52] <cristian_c> Lenders, se guardi le info sul processore, vedrai che non è così
[10:52] <cristian_c> Lenders, poi potrebbe pure esserci un problema noto
[10:52] <cristian_c> sulle cpu intel i7
[10:53] <cristian_c> mi pare con kworker
[10:53] <Lenders> cristian_c e mi appaiono 8 cpu non so cosa dirti comunque ecco schermata http://i.imgur.com/oZBqQJp.png
[10:53] <cristian_c> top | grep kworker
[10:54] <cristian_c> Lenders, ok, ma non è così
[10:54] <cristian_c> si parla di thread
[10:54] <Lenders> va bene
[10:54] <Lenders> quindi?
[10:54] <cristian_c> il carico sulla cpu è bassa
[10:54] <cristian_c> Lenders, che processore è, esattamente?
[10:55] <Lenders> aspetta cerco ti fare una schermata mentre muove le immagini
[10:55] <cristian_c> Lenders, cat /proc/cpuinfo
[10:55] <cristian_c> Lenders, top | grep kworker
[10:56] <Lenders> aspetta non sto capendo nulla
[10:56] <Lenders> cristian_c che devo fa?
[10:56] <cristian_c> Lenders, digita i comandi che ho indicato
[10:57] <Lenders> e poi?
[10:58] <cristian_c> !paste
[10:58] <ubot-it> http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[10:58] <cristian_c> ah, hai la batteria scarica
[10:58] <Lenders> tranquillo ahahah
[10:59] <Lenders> cristian_c http://paste.ubuntu.com/11563307/
[11:00] <cristian_c> Numero di core 4
[11:00] <cristian_c> Numero di thread 8
[11:00] <cristian_c> come pensavo
[11:01] <Lenders> ho capito
[11:01] <cristian_c> Lenders, io vedo tantissimi processi kworker
[11:01] <cristian_c> 22 processi circa
[11:01] <Lenders> cristian_c ovvero?
[11:02] <cristian_c> ah, no, aumentano anche a me
[11:03] <Lenders> cristian_c io ho provato a usare un po gimp mentre facevo sul terminale eh
[11:05] <cristian_c> Lenders, boh, la cosa è molto strana
[11:06] <cristian_c> Lenders, hai già provato ad aprire un thread sul forum o una richiesta su Chiedi?
[11:06] <Lenders> no
[11:06] <cristian_c> Lenders, provaci
[11:06] <cristian_c> sono curioso di sapere perché gimp lagga senza una motivazione precisa
[11:06] <Lenders> insomma qui non si risolve niente eh?
[11:06] <cristian_c> Lenders, ?
[11:07] <cristian_c> !pazienza
[11:07] <ubot-it> la gente qui è volontaria, non pretendere che qualcuno ti risponda. Le risposte non sono sempre disponibili. Guarda http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/GruppoIrc/LineeGuida
[11:07] <Lenders> ahahah più pazienza di così
[11:07] <cristian_c> Lenders, ho provato a vederci chiaro, ma al momento non saprei cosa consigliarti
[11:07] <Lenders> dico qui non riusciamo a risolvere?
[11:07] <cristian_c> Lenders, lo sai che questo non è un helpdesk?
[11:08] <cristian_c> Lenders, sono curioso anch'io di capire questa cosa
[11:08] <cristian_c> non credere
[11:08] <Lenders> cristian_c era una domanda semplice tranquillo
[11:08] <Lenders> appunto
[11:08] <cristian_c> Lenders, qui in canale ci sono utenti che si aiutano a vicenda
[11:08] <Lenders> vabbè allora poi proverò grazie lo stesso
[11:08] <cristian_c> semplici utenti, sebbene sia il supporto ufficiale della comunità italiana su irc
[11:08] <Lenders> appunto ti ringrazio
[11:08] <cristian_c> Lenders, se hai novità, fammi sapere
[11:08] <cristian_c> o facci sapere
[11:09] <Lenders> era una semplice domnda per dire allora qui non si risolve niente posso chiudere?
[11:09] <cristian_c> ok
[11:09] <Lenders> tranquillo
[11:09] <Lenders> ti farò sapere ciao
[11:09] <cristian_c> Lenders, prova sul forum o su Chiedi, almeno lascia una traccia anche per le ricerche di altri utenti con lo stesso problema
[11:09] <cristian_c> Lenders, ciao
[11:09] <cristian_c> *lasci
[11:09] <Lenders> ciao
[11:28] <progressoregress> buongiorno a tutti
[11:28] <progressoregress> ho un portatile hp di ultima generazione che vorrei formattare tramite dban
[11:29] <progressoregress> ho masterizzato dban su un dvd ed impostato dal bios la priorità di boot da cd/dvd interno
[11:29] <progressoregress> ma non e lo legge e parte con il sistema operativo normale ovvero winzozz
[11:30] <progressoregress> il problema non è del lettore dvd perchè se inserisco il cd originale di windows e avvio da boot dvd lo legge
[11:30] <progressoregress> perchè dban non lo legge come mai ? sbaglio qualcosa ?
[11:37] <progressoregress> possibile che il nuovo sistema di boot non legga dban ?
[11:41] <progressoregress> nessuno che sappia aiutarmi ?
[13:15] <akis24> ciao
[14:40] <fabio2> Ciao a tutti
[14:40] <fabio2> Ho un piccolo problema con ubuntu nella sua ultima versione..
[14:40] <krabador> descrivi il problema
[14:41] <fabio2> In pratica ho assemblato da poco il mio pc e nel computer ci sta una radeon r7 260x
[14:41] <FlashBlack> ciao a tutti
[14:41] <fabio2> Pensavo di usare ubuntu come sistema principale, il problema e che il sistema me la fa laggare tutta
[14:41] <fabio2> e si vede malissimo
[14:41] <FlashBlack> vorrei chiedervi assistenza su un problema durante installazione xubuntu da usb
[14:42] <fabio2> l ho messo in dualboot con windows e li funziona
[14:42] <krabador> fabio2, hai installato i driver catalyst ?
[14:42] <Carlin0> !chiedi | FlashBlack
[14:42] <ubot-it> FlashBlack: per cortesia non chiedere il permesso di chiedere, semplicemente formula la domanda (tutta su una riga, in modo tale che gli altri possano leggerla e seguirla con facilità). Se qualcuno conosce la risposta ti risponderà :-)
[14:42] <FlashBlack> ok scusa
[14:42] <fabio2> non saprei da dove trovarli, ho cercato nel driver management come faccio di solito
[14:42] <krabador> fabio2, hai installato 15.04 ?
[14:42] <fabio2> si
[14:43] <krabador> fabio2, apri terminale
[14:43] <fabio2> al momento sto usando l integrata della motherboard..
[14:43] <fabio2> OK
[14:43] <fabio2> FAtto
[14:43] <krabador> fabio2, sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[14:44] <krabador> fabio2, lshw -C video | pastebinit
[14:44] <krabador> fabio2, dpkg -l | grep fglrx | pastebinit
[14:44] <FlashBlack> ho un problema durante installazione xubuntu da usb: in pratica mi chiede username e password al primo avvio ma io non li so! ho pensato anche che magari li dovevo inventare, ma mi da password errata...
[14:45] <fabio2> e ora?
[14:46] <krabador> gli ultimi 2 comandi, hanno prodotto un ulr a testa, incollali entrambi qui
[14:46] <krabador> *url
[14:46] <fabio2> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11566825/
[14:46] <fabio2> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11566830/
[14:47] <fabio2> Ps al momento sto usando sia integrata sia la radeon
[14:47] <fabio2> Ma all inizio ho provato singolarmente con solo la radeon e non mi funzionava
[14:47] <Carlin0> FlashBlack, ma hai messo la pass durante l'installazione no ?
[14:47] <fabio2> Giusto per riuscire a vederci bene ho inserito il primo schermo nella presa dell integrata
[14:48] <krabador> fabio2, gestisci multischermo?
[14:48] <krabador> fabio2, hai nel bios voci di selezione della scheda di default ?
[14:48] <fabio2> non ho capito
[14:48] <fabio2> nel bios e settata la scheda video integrata come principale
[14:48] <Carlin0> FlashBlack, ti chiede la pass quando installi , o dopo installato al primo avvio ?
[14:49] <fabio2> ma avvio in windows sempre con i due monitor nella stessa scheda video
[14:49] <fabio2> uno via dvi e uno hdmi
[14:49] <fabio2> e mi funziona
[14:49] <krabador> ed è normale , quando si usano piu' uscite della stessa scheda
[14:50] <fabio2> Quindi mi stai divendo che non posso usare piu monitor in contemporanea su ubuntu_
[14:50] <fabio2> ?
[14:50] <fabio2> dicendo
[14:50] <krabador> no
[14:52] <fabio2> Ah ok, anche se fosse non sarebbe un problema, uso solo quello principale e bona
[14:52] <krabador> in presenza di piu' monitor , settati di base, possono esserci problemi dipendenti solo dalla configurazione multimonitor, per testare il funzionamento di base di una scheda si deve attaccare direttametente ad un solo monitor principale
[14:52] <fabio2> Ma con i driver come risolvo?
[14:53] <fabio2> Il problema e che se attivo solo un monitor tramite le radeon non si vede nulla
[14:53] <fabio2> o almeno si vede tutto sballato
[14:53] <krabador> FlashBlack, prima di continuare, prendi in giro?
[14:54] <krabador> fabio2, i driver catalyst sono presenti nel tuo sistema. Hai installato ubuntu o derivata?
[14:55] <fabio2> kubuntu , ma credevo fosse solo ubuntu con interfaccia grafica kde
[14:55] <Carlin0> OMG
[14:55] <fabio2> Mi ci trovo male con unity
[14:55] <krabador> beh, si, ma ci sono altre differenze
[14:56] <krabador> non banali
[14:56] <fabio2> Quindi mi stai dicendo che se io metto ubuntu puro 15.04
[14:56] <krabador> fabio2, come il fatto che kubuntu 15.04 è inutilizzabile
[14:56] <krabador> che kde5 è immaturissimo
[14:56] <Carlin0> ma anche xubuntu se vuoi
[14:56] <Carlin0> tutto meno che kde 5
[14:56] <fabio2> i driver catalyst sono gia elli che funzionanti?
[14:57] <fabio2> non ho speso 400 euro per assemblare un pc con cui far girare xubuntu e.e
[14:57] <krabador> ma hanno deciso di metterlo di default, per una questione di allineamento col fatto che il team kde, ha comunque rilasciato kde 5 ancora immaturo, ma da loro dichiarato stabile
[14:57] <krabador> kde , per tradizione, non da provblemi solo dopo pressochè un anno dalla pubblicazione
[14:57] <krabador> e non è ancora quel periodo
[14:58] <fabio2> amen, sorpassando l interfaccia kde
[14:58] <Carlin0> cosa ha che non va xubuntu ? se non ti piace unity è una valida alternativa
[14:58] <fabio2> se mi da lo stesso problema con ubuntu puro_
[14:58] <krabador> fabio2, ok i gusti personali , ma kubuntu 15.04 è assolutamente sconsigliata.
[14:58] <fabio2> come devo muovermi?
[14:59] <krabador> fabio2, esegui l'installazione prima, poi torna tranquillamente qui a segnalare direttamente il comportamento del sistema
[15:00] <fabio2> va bene, grazie comunque :D
[15:00] <fabio2> ah gia che ci sono
[15:01] <fabio2> devo consigliare un SO con interfaccia grafica simile a windows, per; basato su linux, deve essere leggero contando che ha 256 mb di
[15:01] <fabio2> memoria nella gpu
[15:01] <krabador> fabio2, ram e cpu di questo sistema?
[15:01] <fabio2> e pentium d
[15:01] <fabio2> Pentium D
[15:02] <fabio2> 3 e mezzo (ora glielo faccio portare a 4 )
[15:02] <fabio2> Utilizzo quasi esclusivo per office e internet
[15:02] <fabio2> Deve essere semplice per un utente che ha usato sempre windows
[15:02] <Carlin0> office ?
[15:02] <krabador> fabio2, la video ram è rilevante , ma meno dell'architettura della gpu?
[15:02] <krabador> che gpu è?
[15:02] <fabio2> Una Radeon 1600x pro
[15:03] <krabador> fabio2, allora xubuntu / lubuntu
[15:03] <fabio2> PIu semplice e l interfaccia grafica meglio e
[15:03] <fabio2> Dato che quella scheda video e simile ad un grill
[15:03] <krabador> lubuntu è decisamente il piu' semplice di tutti
[15:03] <krabador> ed anche il piu' leggero
[15:03] <fabio2> Chiedo scusa per gli accenti ma ho sbagliato nella configurazione della tastiera e.e
[15:03] <Carlin0> si ma ho i miei dubbi che riesca a usare office con 256 mb di ram
[15:04] <krabador> Carlin0, l'utente ha segnalato la video ram
[15:04] <krabador> all posto della gpu
[15:04] <krabador> la ram di sistema a sua detta è 3 e mezzo, facciamo 4
[15:04] <fabio2> NO no, 256 mb e- la ram della scheda video
[15:04] <Carlin0> a bhe
[15:04] <fabio2> AL momento sono tre banchi da 1 gb e uno da 512 mb di ram di sistema
[15:05] <fabio2> Ma oggi gli compro un banco da 2 gb da sostituire con quello da 512 mb
[15:05] <krabador> quindi va a 3
[15:05] <krabador> no, 4
[15:06] <Carlin0> 3 da 1 + ...
[15:06] <Carlin0> cmq la ram c'è
[15:06] <Carlin0> la cpu un po meno
[15:06] <fabio2> beh, io ho montato sul mio assemblato l ultimo pentium g3258 con overclock sbloccato
[15:06] <krabador> per una questione di approccio, se la semplicità deve essere peculiare come la somiglianza a win, xubuntu / lubuntu, con lubuntu che è la piu' elementare da usare
[15:07] <fabio2> Va una scheggia
[15:07] <fabio2> Anche in gaming
[15:07] <fabio2> e non ho ancora overclockato
[15:08] <fabio2> beh vado a darmi ai download. CI sentiamo per aggiornamenti
[15:08] <fabio2> grazie mille a tutti
[15:08] <fabio2> !quit
[15:08] <ubot-it> Voce non trovata: 'quit'
[15:08] <krabador> per qualsiasi cosa, torna pure qui
[15:13] <FlashBlack> no no
[15:13] <FlashBlack> non prendo in giro
[15:13] <Carlin0> a ma sei ancora vivo FlashBlack
[15:13] <Carlin0> rispondi alle mie domande allora
[15:14] <FlashBlack> il problema è quello: in fase di installazione non mi ha chiesto di scegliere una password
[15:14] <FlashBlack> è spuntato subito questo log-in
FlashBlack, ti chiede la pass quando installi , o dopo installato al primo avvio ?
[15:14] <krabador> FlashBlack, l'installazione prevede di settare il nome dell'utente, ed una password
[15:14] <krabador> esattamente sotto il campo di settaggio dell'utente
[15:14] <krabador> quindi, non c'avrai fatto caso forse, compilando a caso
[15:15] <FlashBlack> io la sto utilizzando in live usb
[15:15] <krabador> la live usb non è un installazione
[15:15] <FlashBlack> lo
[15:15] <krabador> ma una sessione di prova
[15:15] <FlashBlack> lo si
[15:15] <FlashBlack> lo so
[15:15] <krabador> ecco, hai eseguito o no , l'installazione del sistema?
[15:15] <FlashBlack> l'ho fatto per vedere se puù girare bene sul mio pc
[15:16] <Carlin0> ma rispondi alle domande o parli tanto per ....
[15:16] <krabador> e ci siamo. una volta fatta partire l'installazione, la procedura richiede la creazione di un utente con relativa password di accesso
[15:16] <krabador> !installazione | FlashBlack
[15:16] <ubot-it> FlashBlack: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione | Per installazione grafica http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione/Grafica | Si consiglia la visione della guida ufficiale in inglese http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download
[15:17] <FlashBlack> no non l'ho installato
[15:17] <FlashBlack> perchè prima di eliminare windows volevo vedere come andava
[15:17] <Carlin0> FlashBlack, ma tienilo win , non si sa mai
[15:17] <FlashBlack> perchè il computer non è proprio una scheggia
[15:17] <krabador> FlashBlack, e allora che problemi hai ?
[15:18] <FlashBlack> che non riesco a provarlo in live usb
[15:18] <krabador> FlashBlack, come hai fatto la pendrive?
[15:18] <FlashBlack> ho usato UNetbooting
[15:19] <krabador> !usbwin | FlashBlack
[15:19] <ubot-it> FlashBlack: Scarica Universal USB Installer: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/ | Installalo su Windows e lancialo: lui si occuperà di trasferire l'immagine ISO su USB. Guida: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows | Opzionalmente questo programma può anche scaricare lui stesso l'immagine ISO
[15:19] <krabador> usa questo
[15:19] <FlashBlack> ok grazie
[15:19] <krabador> per la pendrive, unetbootin puo' dare qualche problema
[15:19] <krabador> formatta la pendrive prima
[15:19] <FlashBlack> ah ok
[15:19] <FlashBlack> grazie e mi.l.
[15:19] <krabador> di niente
[15:19] <FlashBlack> grazie e mille
[15:22] <FlashBlack> Ah ancora una cosa: ma dato che volevo passare a xubuntu perchè windows 7 sul pc è lento, conviene tenerli entrambi in dual boot o metterne uno solo? perchè più che altro nel caso avessi problemi con xubuntu almeno avrei windows
[15:22] <krabador> dual boot
[15:22] <krabador> è sempre la scelta migliore
[15:23] <Carlin0> tienilo win , l'hai pagato ... perchè cancellarlo
[15:25] <FlashBlack> ma non si rallenta ancora di più così? poi probabilmente dico una cavolata
[15:26] <Carlin0> FlashBlack, no sono 2 sistemi operativi indipendenti
[15:26] <krabador> puoi avere tutti i sistemi che ti pare, installati
[15:26] <krabador> quando ne carichi uno , le prestazioni dipendono da come sta messo il sistema che hai caricato
[15:27] <FlashBlack> e quindi in fase di installazione gli dico di non sovrascrivere windows?
[15:27] <Carlin0> gli dici : installa al fianco di ...
[15:27] <FlashBlack> ok grazie e mille ancora per la disponibilità :)
[16:39] <gyuseppe> salve sto appena scaricando ubuntu e poi l'installerò su un dvd
[16:40] <krabador> !iso | gyuseppe
[16:40] <ubot-it> gyuseppe: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Hardware/DispositiviPartizioni/MasterizzareIso
[16:40] <krabador> seguendo questo link , hai le istruzioni per masterizzare correttamente il dvd
[16:40] <gyuseppe> volevo sapere una cosa...ma il sistema operativo ti cambia l'indirizzo ip pubblico?
[16:40] <krabador> no
[16:41] <gyuseppe> comunque non ho intenzione di partizionare il disco..si può lanciare ubuntu direttamente da DVD?
[16:41] <krabador> a che ti serve, giusto per sapere?
[16:42] <krabador> "cambio ip pubblico" "mancata installazione" ---> vuoi fare danni?
[16:42] <gyuseppe> è una storia lunga e amara...comunque la spiego in poco tempo
[16:43] <gyuseppe> mio cugino si era iscritto su ebay e dopo una comprovendita andata male glia hanno sospeso l'account
[16:43] <gyuseppe> poi mi sono registrato io con i miei dati e hanno fatto lo stesso
[16:43] <gyuseppe> ho fatto registrare a mio padre idem mi bloccano l'account!
[16:44] <krabador> e ubuntu cosa c'entra in tutto questo?
[16:44] <gyuseppe> volevo fare un esperimento chiamamolo cosi per cercar di ingannare i sistemi di ebay
[16:45] <krabador> gyuseppe, se ebay sospende account, un motivo ci sarà
[16:45] <krabador> contattate loro, e chiedete precise spiegazioni a riguardo
[16:45] <gyuseppe> è inutile rispondono sempre da palinsesto
[16:45] <gyuseppe> comunque ritornando a ubuntu si può campbiare l'ip
[16:45] <krabador> avranno le loro buone motivazioni. Se credi di avere ragione, querelali
[16:46] <gyuseppe> si certo, sospendere l'account a mio cugino con 52 feedbak
[16:47] <gyuseppe> comunque ritornando a ubuntu si può campbiare l'ip
[16:47] <krabador> "tornando a ubuntu" ---> questo canale è adibito all'assistenza tecnica del sistema operativo, in un contesto assolutamente legale, cio' che hai intenzione di fare non lo è.
[16:48] <gyuseppe> addirittura! Da quando è diventato illegale cambiare ip? da oggi credo..
[16:49] <krabador> gyuseppe, questo canale ha il log , e tu hai palesato cosa fare una volta "cambiato l'ip" ci sono gli estremi per una tua segnalazione alla postale
[16:50] <gyuseppe> senti io ho detto solo se ubuntu permette di cambiare l'ip e credo che ste domande al giorno ce ne saranno milioni pertanto dovrebbero denunciare milioni di persone al giorno
[16:51] <gyuseppe> anche quando si cambia l'ip per downlodare illimitatamente è illegale...
[16:51] <krabador> "credo che ste domande al giorno ce ne saranno milioni" ---> no in ogni caso non è legale
[16:51] <krabador> !topic | gyuseppe
[16:51] <ubot-it> gyuseppe: per vedere il topic, scrivi /topic.
[16:51] <krabador> http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/GruppoIrc/LineeGuida gyuseppe
[16:52] <gyuseppe> e di cosa parla
[16:52] <krabador> è la regolamentazione di questo canale, puoi leggerla per essere al corrente di cio' che è ammesso qui
[16:52] <gyuseppe> ah ho capito
[16:52] <krabador> se non sei d'accordo , nessun problema. non sei tenuto a stare qui.
[16:52] <gyuseppe> dunque lei mi sta diffamando
[16:53] <krabador> gyuseppe, "la" ricordo che questo canale ha il log, tutto cio' che viene detto , è ufficialmente conservato
[16:53] <gyuseppe> bene allora sappino che windows e meglio di ubuntu
[16:54] <gyuseppe> uauauuaaa
[16:54] <krabador> ulteriore cosa, che non c'entra ne' con quello di cui sta parlando
[16:54] <krabador> ne' con questo canale, ma riguarda soggettività
[19:15] <akis24> sera
[20:27] <krabador> Lozzino, che fine hai fatto fare a Keneso` ?
[20:38] <formattazione> buonasera a tutti
[20:38] <formattazione> sono un utente windows che vorrebbe passare al mondo ubuntu
[20:38] <formattazione> ma prima di prima di farlo
[20:39] <krabador> formattazione, elenca le caratteristiche del pc in cui vuoi installarlo
[20:39] <formattazione> intel core i3 nvidia geforce 4 gb ram
[20:39] <krabador> tendendo in considerazione che conviene installare comunque ubuntu o derivata, a fianco di windows, e non privarsene completamente , se non si conosce il sistema
[20:39] <krabador> ok, allora puoi installare indifferentemente ubuntu o derivata
[20:40] <formattazione> krabador il mio problema è tuttavia un altro annche volendo fare la doppia installazione preferirei cmq formattare il pc con dban
[20:40] <formattazione> e qui sorge il problema
[20:40] <formattazione> il pc è relativamente nuovo neanche 6 mesi
[20:40] <formattazione> e c'era installato su windows 8.1 64 bit
[20:40] <formattazione> ora vorrei formattare con dban
[20:41] <formattazione> ma non riesco ad avviarlo
[20:41] <formattazione> nonostante abbia impostato il boot da cd/dvd
[20:41] <krabador> leggi la documentazione di questo software, se proprio vuoi fomattare per forza con lui
[20:41] <formattazione> leggendo in rete ho scoperto che esistono ormai soprattutto per pc a 64 bit un nuovo sistema di boot
[20:41] <formattazione> chiamato uefi
[20:42] <krabador> nei pc con uefi mandare in boot altro,
[20:42] <krabador> vuole la disabilitazione di uefi secure boot
[20:42] <formattazione> l'ho fatto
[20:42] <krabador> formattazione, qui ti si puo' indicare come installare ubuntu
[20:42] <formattazione> ma cmq continua a non funzionare
[20:42] <krabador> non come far partire altri software
[20:42] <krabador> !installazione | formattazione
[20:42] <ubot-it> formattazione: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione | Per installazione grafica http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione/Grafica | Si consiglia la visione della guida ufficiale in inglese http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download
[20:42] <krabador> !uefi | formattazione
[20:42] <ubot-it> formattazione: UEFI è una specifica che definisce una interfaccia software tra un sistema operativo e le piattaforme firmware, è intesa come un sostituto del BIOS. Per informazioni su come impostare e installare Ubuntu su macchine UEFI vedi http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione/UEFI | vedi anche https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[20:43] <ugone> formattazione, riesci a far partire un dvd con ubuntu?
[20:43] <formattazione> non ho ancora provato poichè ne avevo solo uno con dban
[20:43] <formattazione> essendo un programma basato su linux pensavo che il problema fosse lo stesso
[20:44] <formattazione> prima di questo però volevo dire che
[20:44] <formattazione> ho disabilitato il secure boot dal bios ed abilitato ed impostato il legacy boot
[20:44] <formattazione> tuttavia continua a non partire dban
[20:45] <krabador> formattazione, vale quanto prima
[20:45] <ugone> ci sarà qualcos'altro da modificare
[20:45] <krabador> formattazione, cerca nelle loro risorse online, a riguardo
[20:46] <ugone> cmq formattazione senza usare dban vedi se riesci a far andare un dvd di ubuntu e poi da li puoi distruggere tutti gli hd che vuoi
[20:47] <formattazione> ok ora ci provo
[20:47] <formattazione> anche se preferivo Dban poichè l'avevo già usato e mi piacevano le modalità di formattazione
[20:48] <akis24> formattazione: imposta il lettore-cd come prima periferica di bot altrimenti si avvia sempre hard-disk per altre domande entra su #ubuntu-it-chat
[20:48] <ugone> quando hai dato un dd if=/dev/zero poi non recuperi + nulla lo stesso
[20:48] <formattazione> già fatyto
[20:49] <akis24> !chat | formattazione
[20:49] <ubot-it> formattazione: per qualsiasi argomento non inerente strettamente il supporto a ubuntu, /join #ubuntu-it-chat
[21:27] <ICAPRARO> Salve, ho appena acquistato una stampante epson XP-225 mi aiutate con l'installazione? Ho un portatile hp 255 Grazie
[21:27] <krabador> ICAPRARO, su che ubuntu?
[21:27] <ICAPRARO> si
[21:29] <ICAPRARO> krabador scusami non sono una gran esperta
[21:31] <krabador> ICAPRARO, che versione di ubuntu deve usare questa stampante?
[21:33] <formattazione> niente da fare
[21:34] <formattazione> non si avvia neanche ubuntu da cd
[21:34] <krabador> formattazione, hai masterizzato correttamente il disco, assicurandoti che la sessione di masterizzazione si chiudesse ?
[21:34] <krabador> come hai masterizzato la iso?
[21:36] <formattazione> si
[21:36] <formattazione> cdburnerxp impostazioni di default
[21:43] <ICAPRARO> scusatemi, io ho qui davanti il foglio con le istruzioni, e c'è scritto che per windows serve il pc, ma per ubuntu devo inserire
[21:43] <ICAPRARO> anche il cd? non capisco!
[21:43] <rek> ?
[21:44] <krabador> ICAPRARO, ti ho chiesto esattamente 2 volte, che versione di ubuntu usi
[21:44] <ICAPRARO> krabador dove lo trovo scritto che versione di ubuntu deve usare questa stampante?
[21:45] <krabador> ICAPRARO, non ti si puo' indicare come installare una stampante se non si sa in che sistema operativo si deve installare
[21:45] <ICAPRARO> krabador scusami , hai ragione , aspetta che ci guardo
[21:47] <krabador> formattazione, fisso o notebook ?
[21:50] <formattazione> notebook
[21:50] <krabador> puoi segnalare il modello ?
[21:51] <formattazione> hp 15-r016nl
[21:54] <ICAPRARO> krabador ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[21:57] <krabador> ICAPRARO, vai su questo sito
[21:57] <krabador> http://download.ebz.epson.net/dsc/search/01/search/searchModule
[21:57] <krabador> cerca XP-225 - linux
[22:01] <ICAPRARO> krabador fatto , mi ha trovato due versioni di stampanti 1.4.5. e una 1.0.0. quale scarico?
[22:02] <krabador> scarichi tutti e 4 i files
[22:02] <krabador> se hai anche lo scanner
[22:03] <krabador> ICAPRARO, fa una cosa, per favore, apri il terminale, manda sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[22:03] <krabador> lsb_release -a | pastebinit
[22:03] <krabador> uname -a | pastebinit
[22:04] <krabador> questi ultimi 2 produrranno 2 link che devi incollare qui
[22:08] <krabador> formattazione, va disabilitato secure boot , ed il fast boot
[22:10] <formattazione> ok ora sono nella system configuration
[22:11] <formattazione> secure boot diasbilitato
[22:11] <formattazione> ma non c'è traccia del fast boot
[22:12] <krabador> avvio rapido
[22:12] <formattazione> non c'è
[22:14] <krabador> formattazione, carica win8 e puoi disabilitarlo dall'interno
[22:14] <ICAPRARO> krabador scusami, ma cosa significa : apri il terminale?
[22:14] <krabador> ctrl alt t, tutti e 3 insieme
[22:14] <krabador> e lo vedrai
[22:15] <formattazione> aspetta
[22:15] <krabador> ICAPRARO, ma usi ubuntu ?
[22:15] <formattazione> disabilitando secureboot è possibile usare la funzione dal bios
[22:15] <formattazione> clear all secure boot keys
[22:15] <formattazione> la uso ?
[22:16] <krabador> non serve
[22:17] <ICAPRARO> krabador allora ho questo pc con ubuntu , ma non so come funziona .
[22:17] <ICAPRARO> krabador scusami tanto , forse da sola non ce la posso fare
[22:17] <formattazione> caricare win 8 significa avviarlo normalmente ?
[22:18] <krabador> ICAPRARO, nessun problema, solo che la 12.04 è del 2012, ed in 3 anni , in ubuntu , per come è fatto, deve essere capitato di aprire il terminale
[22:18] <krabador> ICAPRARO, hai caricato i files dal sito epson
[22:18] <krabador> formattazione, esatto
[22:25] <formattazione> sul desktop ho provato a fare ctrl + alt + t
[22:25] <formattazione> ma non esce nulla
[22:26] <krabador> formattazione, erano per ICAPRARO
[22:26] <krabador> i messaggi
[22:26] <formattazione> ah ok
[22:26] <formattazione> quindi una volta avviato win 8
[22:26] <formattazione> come disattivo il fast boot
[22:27] <krabador> apri Opzioni spegnimento
[22:28] <formattazione> dove lo trovo ?
[22:29] <krabador> ovvero pannello di controllo --- opzioni di risparmio energia
[22:30] <krabador> "specifica cosa avviene quando si preme il pulsante di alimentazione "
[22:30] <krabador> "modifica le impostazioni attualmente non disponibili"
[22:30] <krabador> togli la spunta su "avvio rapido"
[22:31] <Sagitt> ragazzi è possibile fare in modo che ubuntu parta sempre da solo? a volte e solo a volte mi rimane sulla schermata di selezione di grub
[22:32] <krabador> Sagitt, hai un dual boot con cosa?
[22:32] <Sagitt> nessun dual boot, semplcie installazione di ubuntu server
[22:33] <Sagitt> però c'è tipo anche memorytest bla bla
[22:33] <Carlin0> !grub | Sagitt
[22:33] <ubot-it> Sagitt: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/AmministrazioneSistema/Grub/ | Per ripristinare Grub: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/AmministrazioneSistema/Grub/Ripristino
[22:34] <Sagitt> forse serve il conto alla rovescia?
[22:34] <formattazione> krabador una volta spuntato chiudo tutto e riavvio giusto ?
[22:35] <krabador> formattazione, si
[22:35] <Carlin0> Sagitt, leggi il wiki
[22:35] <formattazione> niente da fare continua a non leggere il cd
[22:35] <Sagitt> Carlin0 in realtà l'avevo già letta
[22:36] <Sagitt> però le impostazioni sono corrette
[22:36] <Carlin0> Sagitt, e non hai notato il paragrafo 'aggiungi/togli voci' ?
[22:36] <Sagitt> ah tu dici proprio di toglierle?
[22:37] <Carlin0> il metest puoi levarlo tranquillamente
[22:38] <Carlin0> memtest*
[22:38] <Sagitt> però anche se le tolgo chi mi dice che poi quando capita non rimane la schermata con una singola voce?
[22:38] <Sagitt> visto che non è una cosa che riesco a riprodurre, capita raramente
[22:38] <krabador> Sagitt, tu non vuoi proprio niente, giusto
[22:38] <krabador> che accendi e parta direttamente il sistema
[22:38] <Sagitt> esatto in ogni caso
[22:38] <Sagitt> non deve capitare che rimanga sul grub per sbaglio
[22:38] <Sagitt> perchè se riavvio da remoto è un casino
[22:39] <Carlin0> il grub ce per forza
[22:39] <Sagitt> ma non c'è una spiegazione logica
[22:39] <Sagitt> sul perchè a volte
[22:39] <Sagitt> capita che rimane fermo li?
[22:39] <ICAPRARO> krabador ho fatto quello che mi hai detto del terminale , ed è venuto fuori questa scritta
[22:39] <Carlin0> Sagitt, perchè tocchi la tastiera
[22:40] <Sagitt> impossibile
[22:40] <Sagitt> non è collegata nessuna tastiera lol
[22:40] <Carlin0> Sagitt, allora vediamo /etc/default/grub
[22:41] <Carlin0> metti in paste
[22:41] <Carlin0> !paste
[22:41] <ubot-it> http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[22:41] <Sagitt> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11575392/
[22:41] <ICAPRARO> krabador il programma non è attualmente installato, è possibile installarlo digitando
[22:41] <Sagitt> non l'ho mai toccato è così come installato
[22:42] <krabador> Sagitt, ls -la /etc/grub.d
[22:42] <krabador> fa un pastebin dei contenuto, per favore
[22:42] <Sagitt> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11575436/
[22:43] <ICAPRARO> krabador sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[22:44] <krabador> Sagitt, se rimuovi questo 30_os-prober dovrebbe caricare direttamente la prima voce in alto del grub, senza chiedertelo
[22:44] <krabador> Sagitt, fa una prova spostandolo in un'altra cartella, tipo la /home
[22:45] <Sagitt> ok proverò
[22:45] <Sagitt> come krabador già ora lo carica subito, però capita tipo 1 volta su 50 che non succede
[22:45] <Sagitt> e rimane fermo li
[22:46] <krabador> Sagitt, in ogni caso , decommenta #GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0
[22:46] <krabador> che hai nel tuo /etc/default/grub
[22:46] <Sagitt> nasconde il timeout giusto?
[22:46] <Carlin0> in teoria
[22:46] <Carlin0> se hai altri SO non lo nasconde
[22:47] <Sagitt> non ne ho
[22:47] <krabador> Sagitt, per questo ti ho segnalato di 30_os-prober
[22:47] <krabador> Sagitt, ma non puoi provare?
[22:47] <krabador> ICAPRARO, allora , sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[22:48] <Sagitt> krabador in questo momento no perchè sono da remoto
[22:48] <krabador> ok
[22:48] <Sagitt> quando torno a casa proverò :)
[22:48] <Sagitt> cosa sarebbe quel os-prober?
[22:48] <krabador> ICAPRARO, ti reincollo le linee che ti ho scritto prima
ICAPRARO, fa una cosa, per favore, apri il terminale, manda sudo apt-get install pastebinit
lsb_release -a | pastebinit
uname -a | pastebinit
questi ultimi 2 produrranno 2 link che devi incollare qui
[22:49] <krabador> ICAPRARO, cosi' puoi copiare ed incollare direttamente nel terminale
[22:49] <formattazione> krabador grazie per l'aiuto ma continuo a non risolvere il problema
[22:49] <ICAPRARO> krabador dal sito epson mi ha sono riuscita a scaricare questo epson-printer-utility 1.0.0-1lsb3.2
[22:49] <formattazione> spero che domani vada meglio
[22:49] <formattazione> buuonanotte :)
[22:49] <formattazione> GRAZIE MILLE
[22:49] <krabador> Sagitt, os-prober fa il detect di altri sistemi operativi
[22:50] <krabador> e te li lista nel grub quando grub si installa
[22:50] <krabador> ICAPRARO, per favore, è stressante cercare di fare assistenza, se l'utente non fornisce le informazioni necessarie
[22:51] <krabador> tra l'altro nell'arcata di un ora
[22:51] <krabador> te lo chiedo per favore, puoi mandare nel terminale i comandi che ti ho segnalato, e postare qui il risultato degli ultimi 2, che sarebbero solo 2 link ?
[22:52] <ICAPRARO> krabador Hai ragione, è molto stressante, fare assistenza ad una persona che non sa cosa fare
[22:53] <krabador> ICAPRARO, te lo sto dicendo cosa devi fare
[22:53] <krabador> molto semplicemente
[22:53] <ICAPRARO> krabador grazie infinite per aver avuto pazienza
[22:53] <krabador> ma , non arrivano risposte a domande
[22:53] <krabador> il che , puo' portare a presupporre che tu stia prendendo in giro chi è qui dentro
[22:54] <ICAPRARO> krabador ci sto provando , ma evidentemente non è così semplice come può esserlo per te
[22:54] <krabador> se non sai come rispondere alle domande, puoi tranquillamenet chiedere
[22:54] <ICAPRARO> krabador grazie infinite mi farò aiutare da qualcuno che ne capisce più di me
[22:55] <ICAPRARO> krabador e poi magari vediamo se riesco a venirne fuori
[22:55] <krabador> se non sai rispondere a domande che ti sono rivolte al fine di aiutarti
[22:55] <krabador> puoi chiedere a riguardo
[22:55] <krabador> e ti si delinea come fare
[22:55] <krabador> ti è stato semplicemente chiesto di: aprire un terminale
[22:55] <krabador> copiare ed incollare
[22:55] <krabador> 3 linee
[22:56] <krabador> cosa, di queste operazioni, della messa in opera di esse, o del loro significato non ti è chiaro ?
[23:01] <ICAPRARO> krabador quello l'ho fatto
[23:02] <krabador> i comandi sono 3
[23:02] <krabador> 2 di essi, restituiscono un link
[23:02] <krabador> che devi, come precisato tranquillamente prima, incollarli qui
[23:03] <ICAPRARO> e mi è arrivata la risposta che : " il programma non è attualmente installato, è possibile installarlo digitando....
[23:03] <ICAPRARO> " sudo apt-get install pastebinit "
[23:03] <ICAPRARO> a questo punto digitato....
[23:07] <krabador> ICAPRARO, senti, molto semplicemente , sudo apt-get install pastebinit , in un sistema ubuntu, installa, o segnala se è presente, il programma pastebinit
[23:08] <krabador> "il programma non è attualmente installato" lo puo' dare solo se hai sbagliato a digitare nel terminale
[23:09] <ICAPRARO> krabadir ok, grazie per l'assistenza, ci riprovo domani, adesso vado a dormire, ancora gra<ie
[23:10] <krabador> ICAPRARO, ok, ma per favore
[23:39] <LoZiOoNe> buonsalve ^^
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2015-06-04-#ubuntu-es
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[01:42] <n-iCe> Alguien sabe cómo quitar lo de la contraseña que pide Ubuntu al iniciar?
[01:50] <GridCube> n-iCe, edita las caracteristicas del usuario y setealo para que no pregunte contraseña
[01:52] <GridCube> si setearlo por la forma grafica no funciona edita /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf que ponga >autologin-user=usuario y >autologin-user-timeout=0
[01:52] <n-iCe> no no
[01:52] <n-iCe> Pero no el login
[01:52] <n-iCe> Después me pregunta
[01:52] <n-iCe> El keyring o algo así
[01:52] <n-iCe> aunque se supone ya lo resolví
[01:52] <n-iCe> Pero tengo que reiniciar para checar, ahorita no puedo, gracias.
[01:54] <GridCube> ni idea
[01:54] <GridCube> :) suerte
[04:41] <mapps> hol
[09:01] <ricard> se nota mucho la diferencia en el pc de memoria ram 4gb a 1333 o a 1600?
[09:02] <ricard> guampa me dijiste que no verdad?
[09:03] <ricard> o quien sea contestad porfavor
[09:06] <ricard> hola??
[09:06] <ricard> es una pregunta simple no?
[09:07] <ricard> con un si o un no tengo bastante
[09:08] <ricard> bua!!!
[09:10] <ricard> bueno en vista del exito adios
[10:26] <ricard> hola,se nota mucho la diferencia en el pc de 4 gb de ram a 1333 o a 1600
[10:26] <ricard> yo tengo a 1333
[10:30] <ricard> decidme algo
[14:05] <ricard> alguien me puede decir si se nota mucho en el rendimiento del pc tener 4 gb a 1333 en vez de 1600
[14:06] <GridCube> no
[14:06] <GridCube> no se nota
[14:06] <ricard> gracias GridCube
[14:08] <ricard> ya se que este canal es para preguntas de ubuntu pero en ubuntu-es-cafe no me contestaba nadie y en ##hardware no habia nadie
[14:09] <GridCube> ricard: tenes google a tu disposición
[14:09] <ricard> si porque?
[14:09] <GridCube> tambien recorda que si no haces supertrabajos intensivos con tu computadora da absolutamente igual todas las configuraciones
[14:10] <GridCube> porque podrias haber googleado la diferencia y ver los miles de threads que hablaran del tema
[14:10] <ricard> no si yo lo utilizo para internet el chat y skypepara nada mas
[14:12] <ricard> como googleado la diferencia?
[14:12] <guampa> googlear es buscar en google ricard
[14:13] <guampa> ya te dije que no hay diferencia
[14:13] <guampa> o sea, hay, pero tu pregunta es si se nota mucho en el rendimiento y a eso la respuesta es "no, no se nota mucho en el rendimiento"
[14:14] <ricard> vale gracias guampa ,me quedo mas tranquilo porque me vendieron el pc diciendome que tenia 4 gb de ram a 1600 y ahora resulta que son a 1333
[14:14] <guampa> podes reclamarles
[14:15] <guampa> si te lo pusieron en papel esta claro, sino anda a cantarle a gardel
[14:15] <guampa> en tal caso no te lo van a cambiar
[14:16] <ricard> si estoy en ello pero como lo compre en app tienen que hablar con la casa que los monta haber que me dicen segun lo que me digan ire a la oficina del consumidor
[14:16] <guampa> ah
[14:17] <ricard> lo pone en lña pagina web
[14:18] <ricard> yo pensaba que si era notable la diferencia en el pc pero si me decis que no se nota me quedo mas tranquilo
[14:20] <ricard> me entendeis no?
[14:20] <guampa> si, clarito
[14:21] <ricard> gracias por confirmarme que casi no se nota la diferencia
[14:21] <guampa> x nada ricard
[14:21] <guampa> por favor, estas consultas hacelas en -cafe
[14:22] <ricard> deacuerdo ,ya lo he intentado pero nadie me contesto
[14:22] <guampa> no importa, por ahi no hay nadie o por ahi no obtenes una respuesta, pero este canal es para ubuntu
[14:23] <ricard> deacuerdo,lo tendre en cuenta
[14:23] <guampa> hay gente que aparece conectada pero que no esta en la computadora
[14:23] <ricard> a vale
[14:24] <ricard> (Y)
[15:07] <ricard> adios a todos/as
[16:15] <mapps> hola
[16:25] <mapps> mi espanol no bueno
[16:26] <guampa> necesitas ayuda mapps?
[16:28] <ghytr> mapps, french or any language?
[16:34] <mapps> aha
[16:35] <GridCube> hey mapps
[16:35] <mapps> mi hablas ingles
[16:35] <mapps> hey GridCube
[16:35] <mapps> vivo en Gibraltar
[16:36] <GridCube> mapps: if you want to speak you can join #ubuntu-es-cafe and chatt
[16:36] <mapps> aha
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2015-06-04-#juju
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[01:05] <kwmonroe> Bialogs: if you're using the gui, i think grey means the relation has been tentatively requested.. it goes green once you commit that request and the command gets sent to juju. that's my best guess, but #juju-gui would have the authoritative answer.
[01:55] <rick_h_> kwmonroe: Bialogs correct
[01:55] <rick_h_> kwmonroe: Bialogs I think that the relation lines for subordinates are also grey though and deemphasized
[03:28] <thumper> lazyPower: I don't suppose you are working late into the night again are you?
[03:49] <jose> in his birthday?
[03:50] <jose> (actually, I was going to ask the same question :P)
[07:34] <suchvenu> Hi, I am an IBM charmer . I am getting the following error while trying to create a bug in Launchpad
[07:34] <suchvenu> Oops! Sorry, something just went wrong in Launchpad. We’ve recorded what happened, and we’ll fix it as soon as possible. Apologies for the inconvenience. (Error ID: OOPS-fa7f47217944bd43836662fe22cb1415)
[07:35] <suchvenu> Can someone help with this
[11:00] <ludvigx> Has any of you guys ever experienced that the juju cli tools become unresponsive ? returning nothing. Only command that returns anything is juju version
[11:03] <andyjeffries> Does anyone know of a good blog post/document on how to run your own Juju charms store? We want private charms that aren't publicly accessible (we may open source them later, but we'd like that to be an explicit action, we may not if they are complely custom to our systems).
[11:08] <marcoceppi> ludvigx: yes, typically means it can't connect to the environment you're trying to talk to/it thinks it's still bootstrapped (if it's not)
[11:09] <marcoceppi> andyjeffries: you'd have to just create a local charms repository https://jujucharms.com/docs/stable/charms-deploying#deploying-from-a-local-repository
[11:09] <ludvigx> marcoceppi : hmm, it was a functioning environment before. So possibly a problem on the bootstrap node ?
[11:10] <marcoceppi> ludvigx: it's possible, best to run `juju status --debug --show-log`
[11:10] <marcoceppi> let that run until it completes, which may take a while
[11:11] <andyjeffries> marcoceppi: OK, so we couldn't use the Juju GUI to deploy charms from a local repository on our development machines? Or we could, but we'd put the local repository on our Juju server and then would run the juju command only from that server (because our development machines wouldn't have the local repository on it)?
[11:11] <debochat> I am trying to install "libgcc1:i386" through my Juju install hook but the command is failing with the below error:
[11:11] <debochat> 2015-05-26 08:59:23 INFO unit.wxs/0.install logger.go:40 E: Unable to locate package libgcc1
[11:11] <andyjeffries> I saw there was a repo on GitHub https://github.com/juju/charmstore and thought there'd be a doc/blog somewhere on how to run this for a local/private/hosted install.
[11:11] <debochat> but the same command works when trying manually
[11:12] <marcoceppi> andyjeffries: you *can* deploy local charms to the GUI, by dragging and dropping zips of them, but it's not a perfect experience
[11:12] <debochat> my juju env is local
[11:13] <debochat> and working on ubuntu 14.04
[11:13] <marcoceppi> andyjeffries: you can also run a charmstore locally, but juju has no way of knowing how to point to it, so you'd have to poision DNS to get that to work. Also, charmstore ingests it's data from launchpad atm, so even if you did get it running still not perfect because you'd have to have a private launchpad running IIRC
[11:13] <andyjeffries> marcoceppi: Sorry, I may be confusing terms (I'm new to Juju and OpenStack). We want to publish our charms to a local (inside our network) charm store, so that later they can be searched for in the same way as the rest of the charms. We'd probably want to point our Juju server to our local charm store server and then we'd fork/clone any public charms we wanted to use to in to there (unless there's an easy way of having Juju use multiple stores and
[11:13] <andyjeffries> clearly differentiate them). Clearer?
[11:14] <andyjeffries> marcoceppi: That's great, thank you. So this isn't a use-case that's ready to run, it's a bit of hackery...
[11:15] <marcoceppi> andyjeffries: so that use case is coming, it's just not a clean story now. I'd say in the next 2-3 months that will be much stronger, running a private to you charm store
[11:15] <marcoceppi> debochat: that's odd, maybe run apt-get update before your install command?
[11:16] <andyjeffries> marcoceppi: Thank you. We're going to be launching our env after that point, but will need a hacky solution until then - we'll work on that ourselves then (unless the work in making it a clean story is a public repo that we can test/contribute to?)
[11:17] <debochat> marcoceppi: you mean, include the code - apt-get update before calling apt-get install in my install hook?
[11:17] <marcoceppi> andyjeffries: you'd have to pop into #juju-dev to figure out that, I don't think it's yet been worked on
[11:17] <marcoceppi> debochat: yup
[11:17] <andyjeffries> marcoceppi: OK, thanks very much for the pointers :-)
[11:17] <andyjeffries> Appreciate it!
[11:18] <debochat> marcoceppi: many thanks, will try that.
[11:42] <schkovich> how to avoid downtime during upgrade-charm? i diligently tested everything in staging environment but still upgrading all units in production at once makes me feel uncomfortable.
[11:44] <marcoceppi> schkovich: we're working on ways to model blue-green upgrades in juju, though it's not entirely possible at the moment
[11:45] <schkovich> marcoceppi: define entirely possible ;)
[11:45] <schkovich> marcoceppi: is it possible to some degree?
[11:47] <schkovich> marcoceppi: the only idea that i have at the moment is to define a new environment but that is kind of way to complicated since there is a number of charms running and i need just to upgrade one
[11:47] <marcoceppi> schkovich: you could deploy the new charm under a different name
[11:47] <marcoceppi> lets say the service is mysql
[11:47] <marcoceppi> so you already have juju deploy mysql
[11:48] <marcoceppi> if you do juju deploy mysql mysql-green
[11:48] <marcoceppi> then do all the relations, you can then just "failover" to the green one
[11:48] <marcoceppi> and destroy the previous one
[11:49] <schkovich> marcoceppi: okay, does make sense, in that case i could deploy charm to each server one by one.
[11:51] <Odd_Bloke> jose: Thanks for your review, sorry for missing all the conflicts; I'll look at it today.
[11:51] <Odd_Bloke> I would have commented there, but LP isn't letting me. ;.;
[11:54] <schkovich> marcoceppi: i have local charm store trust/x-charm, will creating symlinks x-charm-green and x-charm-red work? eg will i be able to say juju deploy x-charm-green or juju deploy x-charm-red?
[11:54] <Odd_Bloke> jose: Or, alternatively, it was waiting so you could get the same comment 5 times. ¬.¬
[11:54] <marcoceppi> schkovich: no, all you need to do is type `juju deploy local:trusty/x-charm x-charm-green`
[11:55] <marcoceppi> it'll deploy x-charm but call it x-charm-green to avoid collisions
[11:55] <schkovich> marcoceppi: awesome! i was not aware of that. is it documented?
[11:56] <schkovich> marcoceppi: it's like charm alias
[11:58] <marcoceppi> schkovich: it really should be, doesn't appear to be. I'll fix that
[11:58] <marcoceppi> `juju help deploy` covers it, very sparsley too :\
[12:04] <schkovich> marcoceppi: <service name>, if omitted, will be derived from <charm name>. this one?
[12:05] <marcoceppi> schkovich: yes
[12:09] <schkovich> marcoceppi: i read that line so many times but it never came to my mind in which way could it be useful :)
[12:09] <schkovich> marcoceppi: thanks a lot!
[12:13] <web> wow active this morning. :)
[13:14] <schkovich> marcoceppi: juju deploy local:trusty/charm-x charm-x-green --to y is not working. :( i am still getting the old version of charm
[13:14] <schkovich> marcoceppi: perhaps i should include revision number as well?
[14:54] <stub> If the leader updates the leader settings, is it possible that other units will see the changes first in any hook? Or is the first place they will see the changes guaranteed to be the leader-settings-changed hook?
[14:56] <stub> fwereade: Do you know off the top of your head?
[15:08] <Odd_Bloke> aisrael: I don't really know the charm MP process; are your +1s enough for me to merge things myself?
[15:10] <tvansteenburgh> Odd_Bloke: only a member of ~charmers can do the merge
[15:42] <fwereade> stub, it's not quaranteed to wait until leader-settings-changed
[15:43] <fwereade> stub, similarly to relation settings -- you may see values from the future that render future change hooks redundant
[16:22] <jose> Odd_Bloke: can you link me to that MP that has a +1 so I can take a quick look?
[16:22] <jose> Odd_Bloke: also, LP may be weird sometimes, don't forget it works with karma :P
[16:35] <Odd_Bloke> jose: But I've been a good boy! :p
[16:35] <jose> hehe
[16:35] <Odd_Bloke> jose: You mean https://code.launchpad.net/~daniel-thewatkins/charms/trusty/ubuntu-repository-cache/update_charm-helpers/+merge/260956 ?
[16:36] <jose> oh, I'm looking into that one right now
[16:36] <Odd_Bloke> (I don't mean to brag, but I have _several_ MPs with +1s ;) )
[16:37] <jose> check your email
[16:39] <Odd_Bloke> jose: \o/
[16:43] <Odd_Bloke> jose: Thanks! :)
[16:45] <jose> Odd_Bloke: thanks to you for the fixes - greatly appreciated!
[16:45] <Odd_Bloke> :)
[16:49] <Odd_Bloke> jose: Will those changes now have to pass CI to get published? (If there's a link to a doc about the process, I'm happy to read up on it :)
[16:50] <jose> Odd_Bloke: when you create an MP, it goes into the review queue (review.juju.solutions). the CI instances catch up and process the tests, and then we review (accept/reject) based on what we see and the CI results
[16:50] <jose> and then we merge, which is the final step if it's all good
[17:23] <stub> fwereade: Ta. It may have been a pedantic question, but it actually affects my design :)
[17:25] <arosales> any folks knowledgable on how the "charm collection" is set up in LP?
[17:26] <stub> arosales: Its modelled as a distribution, like Ubuntu or Debian.
[17:26] <arosales> specifically why I see things like https://bugs.launchpad.net/charms/+source/platform-lsf/
[17:26] <arosales> and https://bugs.launchpad.net/charms/+source/crate
[17:27] <arosales> stub these aren't recommended charms, but I still see their URLs in LP. However, no code attached.
[17:28] <arosales> I am guessing when folks push to a personal name space it still shows up in the charm collection but doesn't attach the code branch . . .?
[17:29] <stub> arosales: I think every sourcepackage name has a URL in that space. https://bugs.launchpad.net/charms/+source/pytz works for example
[17:30] <stub> arosales: #launchpad might know more
[17:44] <arosales> stub, hmm thanks
[18:38] <marcoceppi> arosales: stub is correct
[18:38] <marcoceppi> every source package has a place holder in charms
[18:38] <marcoceppi> but only charmers can link the source package alias to the branch
[18:38] <arosales> marcoceppi, why isn't the source code branch attached?
[18:39] <marcoceppi> because there is no source code for it
[18:39] <arosales> ah, so its an alias
[18:39] <arosales> and I can't submit a bug against it either correct
[18:39] <arosales> ie I couldn't submit a bug against https://bugs.launchpad.net/charms/+source/pytz
[18:44] <marcoceppi> arosales: you probably could tbh
[18:44] <arosales> marcoceppi, I get the following error
[18:44] <arosales> "platform-lsf" does not exist in Juju Charms Collection. Please choose a different package. If you're unsure, please select "I don't know"
[18:44] <arosales> https://bugs.launchpad.net/charms/+source/platform-lsf/+filebug
[18:44] <marcoceppi> arosales: oh, well there ya go
[18:45] <arosales> so I was just trying to figure that piece out
[18:45] <arosales> it looks like IBMers are actually getting an oops from LP when trying to do this though
[18:45] <arosales> so I was trying to reproduce that oops
[18:45] * arosales can't reproduce the oops, but I get an error message back from LP at least
[20:52] <upper--> hi guys, is it possible to reference variables inside an amulet sentry 'run'?
[20:53] <upper--> e.g. self.unit.run('grep ', somevariable, '/etc/whatever')
[20:53] <mbruzek> upper--: how do you mean? You can build the run command *with* variables.
[20:53] <mbruzek> string = 'grep {0} /etc/whatever'.format(variable)
[20:53] <mbruzek> self.unit.run(string)
[20:54] <mbruzek> upper does that help?
[20:54] <upper--> yep cheers
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[02:09] <xubuntu37w> Can someone provide me with information on how to encrypt a file or folder in xubuntu?
[02:10] <xubuntu37w> Can this be done using system software or is a third party application needed?
[02:34] <slumbergod> quick question. just did a clean install of xubuntu 15.04. I am unable to add Documents to Places in thunar. In 14.04 I had to do it via the save as dialog in mouepad to create .gtk-bookmarks. How do i do it in 15.04?
[08:34] <xubuntu83w> Hey,
[08:34] <xubuntu83w> I have a problem with my xubuntu
[08:34] <cfhowlett> !ask | xubuntu83w
[08:38] <xubuntu83w> I just installed the 14.04 lts and i tried to play some youtube videos and it's awful (not justo on high res. Even on 480, 360, etc) and i tried vimeo, and it works perfectly (not on hd) but it works smoothly! I thought hey try it with chrome, and so i did but it was the same,, so my question is, when can i do to resolve this little problem?
[08:41] <cfhowlett> sounds like a YT issue, not ubuntu. use YT's html5 settings.
[08:43] <xubuntu83w> Its yt issue for sure! Ok thak you vm for your answer!
[08:44] <cfhowlett> xubuntu83w, happy2help!
[08:47] <xubuntu83w> XD
[11:59] <night__> I got a problem! I were already here yesterday, just before my LAptop crashed because of empty accu. My problem: I used to press Capslock and 2 to set a " or Caps and 1 for a !. Here in Xubuntu 15.04 it doesn´t work.
[11:59] <night__> I´m a german user and I´m using the QWERTZ Layout.
[12:00] <cfhowlett> !de | night__
[14:57] * LikeVinyl is away: a cocinar!
[15:43] <sleezio> was zietgiest removed from xubuntu?
[15:43] <sleezio> ... 14.10
[17:27] <bekks> !info zeitgeist utopic
[19:49] <xubuntu80w> Olá, br?
[19:49] <xubuntu80w> Estou com dúvida.
[19:49] <xangua> !pt
[23:05] <xubuntu90w> Has anyone managed to install eagle cad!! mine installs but cannot launch??
[23:06] <ObrienDave> never heard of it. where did you find it?
[23:06] <xubuntu90w> http://www.cadsoftusa.com/download-eagle/
[23:06] <holstein> if its not in the repos, it may be "best" to ask the creators of the application for support.. but, you can share what errors you are getting when it doesnt launch
[23:07] <holstein> you can try starting it from the terminal, and see if there is any output
[23:07] <xubuntu90w> Tried from terminal nothing happens? it does not show up under any software heading.
[23:08] <ObrienDave> do you have the libc.so.6 with sub version GLIBC_2.14 or higher, installed?
[23:08] <xubuntu90w> not sure
[23:08] <holstein> you'll have to comply with whatever "they" say you need..
[23:09] <ObrienDave> that could be why it won't launch
[23:10] <xubuntu90w> Does xubuntu work like ubuntu.....I upgraded ubuntu to the latest version and get errors so have to log into xubuntu??
[23:11] <holstein> xubuntu90w: xubuntu *is* ubuntu
[23:11] <xubuntu90w> The interface is different?
[23:11] <holstein> xubuntu90w: if you need help with specific errors, if you share them, im sure a volunteer may have some ideas
[23:11] <ObrienDave> xubuntu90w: xubuntu *is* ubuntu with xfce as a DE
[23:12] <xubuntu90w> ok thats good....so sudo apt-get will work in terminal?
[23:12] <ObrienDave> same core system, different Desktop Environment. yes it will
[23:13] <xubuntu90w> Thanks ObrienDave really appreciate your help :-)
[23:13] <ObrienDave> most welcome
[23:13] <holstein> xubuntu90w: sudo apt-get works in any operating system that implements apt
[23:14] <ObrienDave> what ^^^ said ;P
[23:14] <holstein> i think, first thing i would do is, from a terminal, run "sudo apt-get update" and address any/all errors
[23:14] <holstein> then, i would move on to "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"... then, decide if you want to address the application and adding what it needs to run, or dealing with other issues..
[23:19] <IanB_> hey
[23:19] <xubuntu90w> Hi just doing a " sudo apt-get dist-upgrade " it came up the the missing files...
[23:20] <ObrienDave> amazing how that works ;P
[23:20] <IanB_> dont you just love apt? :)
[23:21] <ObrienDave> love apt-fast better ;P
[23:21] <IanB_> heh
[23:56] <Guest99405> hello, does anyone know how to edit a GTK3 theme so that it is square/flat like Numix theme? any guides on the internet to do that? -thanks
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[00:09] <zmoylan-pi> cat v fox on kittykam https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9j38UmSYjClWHFXYXo5TU1TS3M/view?usp=sharing
[00:14] <daftykins> :O
[00:14] <daftykins> who won?
[00:16] <zmoylan-pi> i think the fox has eaten 1-2 kittens but one of the bigger battle moggies has torn strips off the fox from the sound of the fights i've heard and the moggie is still around while fox is rarer these days
[06:19] <kjvarley> Interesting problem. Hosts file redirect of pseudo-domain name to localhost works in Firefox but not in Chrome...Any ideas ?
[06:27] <kjvarley> Got it
[06:27] <kjvarley> Was using domain.localhost as a vhost which causes conflict
[07:07] <MooDoo> howdy all
[07:07] <SuperMatt> morning
[08:43] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[08:54] <popey> yo
[08:59] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Hug Your Cat Day! 😃
[09:02] <foobarry> and get scratched
[09:03] <zmoylan-pi> well if you know your cat you'll know what times of the day you can sneak up, hug the little beggar and make a non bloody getaway :-)
[09:04] <popey> one of ours is so soppy, you can pick him up and hold him upside down in your arms like a baby
[09:05] * zmoylan-pi remembers my father giving a cat in the 70s a pill while wearing heavy motorbike gloves and the cat managing to scratch his hand THROUGH the leather of those gloves...
[09:10] <Laney> want to get a cat
[09:10] <Laney> would need to replace burglar alarm system though :'(
[09:11] <shauno> your alarm is an angry dog?
[09:11] <zmoylan-pi> just give the cat the pin code :-)
[09:11] <JamesTait> Laney, there are ones that are advertised as pet-safe. YMMV.
[09:12] <Laney> That's what I mean, I stupidly got a non pet safe one
[09:12] <Laney> it was only 6 months ago too
[09:12] <zmoylan-pi> what feature of it is not petsafe?
[09:13] <Laney> it would be triggered by a pet moving around
[09:13] <TwistedLucidity> zmoylan-pi: It'll trip when it sees the cat, rather than ignore low/small movements.
[09:13] <zmoylan-pi> that can be disabled by a reprogramming, get a quote on how much it would cost
[09:14] <popey> i thought they all had sensitivity settings
[09:14] <TwistedLucidity> I am pretty sure our ancient one does not.
[09:14] <Laney> not that I know about anyway
[09:14] <TwistedLucidity> But then it is ancient.
[09:14] <zmoylan-pi> i know when i worked with alarm box installers in 90s that they were starting to be able to reprogram the alarms remotely to save on visits to out of the way places
[09:14] <TwistedLucidity> At least it's wired though.
[09:14] <Laney> maybe a Man™ would be able to
[09:15] <TwistedLucidity> Laney: Would need an installation manual, often hard to find in public.
[09:15] <Laney> the brochure talks about it but I have the feeling that it is a different kind of sensor
[09:15] <popey> i remember seeing a WatchDog (or some other program) where this conman installer would put alarms in with an added timer circuit which would trip after the warranty expired, and make the alarm break.
[09:15] <JamesTait> popey, I think the pet-safe ones are kind of zonal as well, so the lower part of the sensor is less sensitive than the upper part. At least that's how I understood what the fitter was telling me.
[09:15] <popey> People would call him, he'd reset the counter
[09:16] <popey> I should consider an alarm at some point
[09:16] <popey> not been any burglaries round here for years :S
[09:16] <Laney> oh god
[09:16] <popey> maybe we're due one
[09:16] <Laney> you said it
[09:16] <popey> hah
[09:18] <TwistedLucidity> Our alarm went wonk a while back. We walked around the streets and did a small census of the alarms we could see. Then called the company most people seemed to use.
[09:18] <TwistedLucidity> All it needed was a new battery....
[09:19] <shauno> I still think they're largely pointless
[09:19] <zmoylan-pi> their job is not to stop breakins but make the robber go to your nearest neighbour WITHOUT an alarm
[09:19] <TwistedLucidity> In truth, they probably are. But if our place is riskier than the neighbours'...which one will they go for
[09:20] <TwistedLucidity> Same reason we switched the locks to ones marked "anti-bump/anti-snap". It just causing hassle for them.
[09:20] <TwistedLucidity> Although 30+kg of enraged dog does that as well....
[09:21] <popey> nice and sunny today
[09:21] <TwistedLucidity> Yeah, looking good for the w/end
[09:22] <shauno> I think my concern is that I've never known anyone who calls the police when an alarm goes off. they just turn the TV up
[09:22] <popey> bbq weather
[09:23] <zmoylan-pi> that's why you pay for monitoring so a central station calls plod
[09:23] <popey> it's handy having a plod living in the road, even if he's "only" a dog handler
[09:23] * zmoylan-pi used to fix the pcs in the central station bunkers. twas fun seeing the doors on those places
[09:24] <popey> means his plod car is often here
[09:24] <zmoylan-pi> and i also got to write the software that /decoded/ the signals coming in on the leased line from all the burgalar alarms in ireland
[09:25] <TwistedLucidity> if <person I dislike> then router=ignore
[09:25] <zmoylan-pi> in vb... :-D
[09:25] <TwistedLucidity> 5 or 6?
[09:25] <zmoylan-pi> 4!
[09:26] <TwistedLucidity> Poor sod
[09:26] <zmoylan-pi> i got it working and it ran without been restarted for years. that took effort
[09:27] <TwistedLucidity> If Firefox suggests "Reader view" one more time, I may do something unspeakable to it....
[09:28] <TwistedLucidity> And it doesn't even work on the site where it suggests it. HAH!
[09:28] <TwistedLucidity> FF is really going downhill these days....
[09:28] <zmoylan-pi> as is chrome, opera...
[09:29] <zmoylan-pi> i use midori these days most of the time. terrible but less annoying
[09:29] <awilkins> The kind of feature creep you get when your product does what it was designed for really really well
[09:29] <awilkins> And you have a big successful dev team who now have nothing to do
[09:29] <awilkins> Except fix really trivial stupid bugs
[09:30] <shauno> then keep a couple around to fix big, and send the rest off to make their mail client stop sucking :)
[09:31] <awilkins> Oh crikey yes, Thunderbird neesd an update
[09:31] <awilkins> Needs to do label support like Gmail does
[09:33] <shauno> thunderbird doesn't just need an update, it needs to be taken out back and shot
[09:33] <zmoylan-pi> ^this
[09:33] <zmoylan-pi> it's reached critical stupidity
[09:34] <awilkins> It's not that bad, surely
[09:34] <awilkins> My main gripes with it are to do with the calendar stuff
[09:34] <zmoylan-pi> when i read a lot of people talking online about using evolution as thunderbird is just so bad these days...
[09:34] <awilkins> But they are mostly Microsoft's fault for being annoying
[09:35] <awilkins> I *hate* evolution
[09:35] <zmoylan-pi> these people hate evolution too but use it as it's less annoying than thunderbird...
[09:35] <awilkins> It disgusts me even that Unity uses it's backend to integrate the calendar into the desktop
[09:36] <shauno> I used to like evolution, way way back when
[09:37] <shauno> gave up on it when the prefs dialog stopped fitting on my monitor, and never found my way back
[09:43] <TwistedLucidity> I use Thunderbird daily, it's the best email client on GNU/Linux IMHO
[09:43] <TwistedLucidity> Well, GUI email client.
[09:43] <foobarry> geary?
[09:44] <foobarry> doesn't get mentioned much
[09:44] <TwistedLucidity> Does that do CardDAV and CalDAV like Thunderbird?
[09:44] <foobarry> geary is more lightweight
[09:44] <foobarry> but nice UI
[09:45] <TwistedLucidity> I use Thunderbird as a PIM as well as a mail client.
[09:45] <zmoylan-pi> doesn't geary have inflexible ui?
[09:45] <TwistedLucidity> So I need that DAV support to get appointments etc sync'd
[09:51] <TwistedLucidity> I'd like to try KMail seeing as I use KDE, but it seems it randomly deletes emails.
[09:51] <TwistedLucidity> Or so I'm told
[09:53] <zmoylan-pi> is it up to government standard of losing emails? :-)
[09:57] <TwistedLucidity> Or certain newspapers....
[10:00] <TwistedLucidity> Seems that get_iplayer has been updated after the BBC broke everything again.
[10:00] <foobarry> also youtube_dl works i think
[10:01] <TwistedLucidity> Why Auntie can't support iPlayer on GNU/Linux or Kodi is beyond me.
[10:01] <TwistedLucidity> foobarry: The Beeb changed the APIs a couple of days ago
[10:02] <TwistedLucidity> Or, better yet, let the community get on with it. The Kodi iPlayer plugin worked really, really well. All it needed was the BBC to stop acting so heavy-handed
[10:02] <zmoylan-pi> and the odds of that are...
[10:02] <awilkins> The BBC don't like people downloading iPlayer stuff
[10:03] <awilkins> :-(
[10:03] <awilkins> Or rather, their content partners don't
[10:06] <TwistedLucidity> awilkins: The Kodi iPlayer does not permit downloads. The developer made it very clear they would not offer that feature
[10:06] <TwistedLucidity> They were trying to play fair, which is admirable
[10:06] <TwistedLucidity> get_iplayer on the other hand......
[10:06] <TwistedLucidity> And these projects only existed because the BBC left a vacuum.
[10:07] <TwistedLucidity> They are happy enough to support closed-systems like iOS and Facebook...so our license fee goes to support that; rather than support *us*
[10:08] <TwistedLucidity> Like Netflix (other streaming services are availbale) and copyright infringement, if you provide a service people can actually use; they stop looking for alternatives.
[10:08] <TwistedLucidity> I'm mostly irritated because I was halfway through "Buried" when it all went AWOL. :-(
[10:09] <zmoylan-pi> to management in beeb ios IS mobile. facebook IS email
[10:09] <TwistedLucidity> Unfortunately true
[10:09] <TwistedLucidity> I wonder if iPlayer can be made to run under WINE.....
[10:10] <shauno> ios rant seems wildly of-base, tbh
[10:10] <zmoylan-pi> and the rest of us are hoodie wearing evil hackers trying to take down apple and facebook in glow of our screens at night...
[10:11] <TwistedLucidity> shauno: Not really. BBC is funded by what is in essence a tax. I have every right to be annoyed when that goes to support walled-gardens instead of openness.
[10:11] <zmoylan-pi> the beebs mandate is to educate and inform but they choose ios over any other platform when it is the platform least used by the poor
[10:11] <shauno> iplayer's on android & ios. between the two they make up 95%+ of the smartphone market.
[10:12] <TwistedLucidity> I'd also argue that it runs counter to the IT education aims.
[10:12] <TwistedLucidity> shauno: Indeed. And it's on Windows and OS X too. So why not on GNU/Linux or the likes of Kodi? As if said before, the Beeb don't need to write the code; just not be heavy handed.
[10:13] <shauno> I'm just saying that as far as return for the money goes, they're on exactly the platforms I'd expect them to be on
[10:13] <shauno> rather than going the 'open' route and having 7 users paid for by 6 million.
[10:14] <foobarry> linux are teh 1%
[10:14] <TwistedLucidity> So don't pay, just stop making life hard for the community
[10:18] <foobarry> they wanted to make it even worse
[10:19] <foobarry> but were blocked from doing so
[10:19] <foobarry> something about encrpyting all their streams
[10:19] <TwistedLucidity> Well....this is amusing http://ipd-hq.api.bbc.co.uk/latest/linux
[10:20] <TwistedLucidity> foobarry: Yup, that will be forced from the media companies. That have this bizarre idea that making legal use hard is somehow going to help
[10:21] <TwistedLucidity> And this does exist http://iplayerhelp.external.bbc.co.uk/tv/computer/linux/
[10:22] <TwistedLucidity> Hmmm....
[10:23] <TwistedLucidity> And they say the test on Linux-based (Ubuntu 11 in this case) browsers; that's more than most I guess
[10:25] <m8ty> Hi all
[10:25] <popey> At once point the BBC actually hired a guy to fight back against get_iplayer
[10:25] <popey> his job was to make get_iplayer not work
[10:25] <foobarry> wow
[10:25] <popey> He has since moved on (works at facebook now iirc)
[10:25] <TwistedLucidity> See - it's that kind of thing.....
[10:25] <foobarry> heh
[10:26] <m8ty> get_iplayer still works and well luckily
[10:26] <TwistedLucidity> It just got an update to cope with the latest breakage
[10:26] <popey> which is ridiculous given bbc redux, where they store all programmes from all terrestrial channels and allow for a small set of people to download them with no drm on any platform over http
[10:27] <TwistedLucidity> Hmm?
[10:27] <shauno> iplayer doesn't allow indefinite downloads on any platform. I don't get the "but we're special" rant at all. I think people forget get_iplayer's a hack.
[10:28] <m8ty> Has nayone had an issue where Toshiba "chicony " webcam being detected and confgigured as keyboard hence doesn't work????
[10:28] <TwistedLucidity> I'm not saying "we're special". I am saying the BBC is playing a stupid game, and wasting the money I pay them.
[10:29] <m8ty> I don't seem to find a fix on my Toshiba Sat c 855
[10:30] <TwistedLucidity> It wouldn't be beyond their capabilities to *stop* being total sods to Kodi iPlayer (which does not permit downloads). Gives them good PR, expands their reach, cost is trivial.
[10:30] <TwistedLucidity> I understand their hatred for get_iplayer, but that only exists because of the vacuum left when the BBC ditch GNU/Linux support.
[10:31] <TwistedLucidity> They write/sanction apps for Smart TVs. Writing/sanctioning the Kodi plugin is not a great leap.
[10:32] <foobarry> i wish there was a similar hack for 4od
[10:32] <foobarry> which doesn't even work wotih chromecast!!
[10:32] <TwistedLucidity> Don't 4od put all their stuff on YouTube?
[10:32] <foobarry> no
[10:32] <TwistedLucidity> And there used to be a Kodi plugin for that as well
[10:32] <foobarry> used to
[10:32] <TwistedLucidity> Ah, OK
[10:45] <TwistedLucidity> Interesting.....
[10:45] <TwistedLucidity> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/06/04/eu_competition_watchdog_snarls_at_hollywood_eyes_fines/
[10:46] <zmoylan-pi> this will all be blocked with tpp as it would be hurting the business of hollywood companies
[10:47] <TwistedLucidity> TPP is the pacific one innit? Aren't we getting infected with TTIP?
[10:47] <Myrtti> get-iplayer ♥
[10:47] <TwistedLucidity> And then there's TISA
[10:47] <zmoylan-pi> they're all spawn of the same corporations
[10:49] <TwistedLucidity> Your freedom will be packaged and sold back to you. This is for your benefit, citizen.
[10:50] <bashrc_> those trade agreements are really antidemocratic
[10:51] <zmoylan-pi> the un has said so recently
[10:51] <TwistedLucidity> They are going to happen. There is no way to stop it.
[10:53] <zmoylan-pi> if the americans thought prohibition was bad...
[10:54] <bashrc_> there's some sort of rule whereby corporations can sue governments if they don't do what they're told
[10:54] <bashrc_> it's really an indication of who actually holds power
[10:54] <TwistedLucidity> bashrc_: Which is ridiculous
[10:55] <TwistedLucidity> Corporations are not people. If they were, we could jail them for illegal acts.
[11:27] <intrbiz> TwistedLucidity: a company is still a legal entity, rather than 'jailed' they can be shutdown
[11:27] <zmoylan-pi> but that almost never happens
[11:28] <intrbiz> zmoylan-pi: sadly, yes
[11:38] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[11:39] <bigcalm> intrbiz: do you have a one line command for connecting to the serial console of the 3com switch?
[11:40] <knightwise> 3com ?
[11:40] <bigcalm> 3com
[11:40] <knightwise> I think you need an Indiana jones fedora for that
[11:41] <bigcalm> I have the connection settings, I just haven't worked out how to use screen to connect
[11:41] <bigcalm> Tried minicom and didn't get anywhere with it
[11:45] * bigcalm installs putty for a giggle
[11:46] <bigcalm> It allowed me to set the settings in a sensible way. Started the session and turned on the switch. I can see the cursor move about as though the self test is running, but there's no text
[11:47] <bigcalm> This is the same result that I got from screen and minicom
[11:49] <diplo> minicom is 'orrible, never got on with it :/
[11:51] <diplo> With screen you've tried `screen /dev/ttyS0 baudratehere` ?
[11:51] <diplo> Or something
[11:52] <popey> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1ONXea0mX wow
[11:52] <zmoylan-pi> so much easier when you plugged in serial cable connected to your psion back in the day :-)
[11:52] <diplo> Or gtkterm maybe ? Not sure if that is still about though
[11:52] <bigcalm> diplo: yes. It gives the same blank screen with cursor moving about as though it's getting data
[11:52] <knightwise> there
[11:52] <knightwise> ordered !
[11:53] <bigcalm> popey:
[11:53] <bigcalm> This video does not exist.
[11:53] <bigcalm> Sorry about that.
[11:55] <diplo> bigcalm: hmm, maybe baudrate issue.. cant say I've had that issue but haven't had to do anything switch related for a long time
[11:55] <popey> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1ONXea0mXg
[11:55] <popey> oops
[11:56] <popey> missed a g off the end
[11:56] <bigcalm> That's impressive
[11:58] <diplo> Watched it earlier, a lot of nay sayers though
[11:59] <popey> meh
[12:00] <diplo> Reading the reviews on play.google a lot of people saying speech recognition isn't that great
[12:01] <diplo> That's what I got from comments on some posts, was that it was set to understand the guy in the demo :)
[12:01] * diplo will wait and see!
[12:02] <popey> we had problems with touch in Ubuntu some years back
[12:02] <popey> some people couldn't get it to recognise gestures.
[12:02] <popey> It was somewhat tuned for the guy who maintained touch in Ubuntu :)
[12:03] <diplo> I guess that's where having a company the size of apple and google comes in handy with all that data
[12:05] <intrbiz> bigcalm: I've used minicom in the past
[12:06] <intrbiz> bigcalm: what baud are you using
[12:10] <intrbiz> bigcalm: 19,200 should be the default, assuming previous owner didn't change it
[12:13] <bigcalm> intrbiz: using the default listed in the PDF manual...
[12:15] <zmoylan-pi> even if you select the wrong speed on serial you should get gobbledegook
[12:15] <intrbiz> bigcalm: assuming your cable works, then all I suggest is trying differing baud rates
[12:17] <bigcalm> intrbiz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11564502/
[12:18] <bigcalm> That's a lot of settings to mess about with
[12:18] <bigcalm> Just change the baud rate?
[12:18] <intrbiz> bigcalm: just change the rate: try: 38400 and 115200
[12:18] <bigcalm> Okay :)
[12:18] <intrbiz> bigcalm: it'll by 8n1 with no flow control
[12:19] <intrbiz> bigcalm: if your not seeing anything, it'll be the rate, or the cable
[12:19] <intrbiz> bigcalm: possibly also 9600
[12:19] * zmoylan-pi suspects cable by the sound of blank screen
[12:20] <zmoylan-pi> unless some twonk set it to 115,200 and you're trying at 9600 or vice versa
[12:24] <bigcalm> 38400 & 115200 = nothing
[12:24] <bigcalm> 9600 = a little bit of cursor movement
[12:24] <bigcalm> 19200 = a lot of cursor movement
[12:24] <bigcalm> But no actual visible text from anything
[12:26] <intrbiz> bigcalm: in what way does the cursor move?
[12:27] <zmoylan-pi> i've never used the terminal program you named, it's not set for black text on black background by any chance? /really dumb suggestion
[12:34] <shauno> other thing worth trying is to just smack enter a few times to give it something to reply to
[12:35] <shauno> I've a few things like that where the login string is sent before you connected to it, so it's actually waiting for input. the string doesn't sit in a buffer waiting for you
[12:38] <zmoylan-pi> and ctrl-m instead of enter in case it's using wacky protocol, had that happen a few times
[12:39] <zmoylan-pi> yeah it's waiting for you to type username on blank screen
[14:07] * popey tuts at bigcalm and his vertical video
[14:08] <bigcalm> popey: I know :(
[15:28] <ujjain> Hey, if you create a directory called $HOME, it seems you can't delete it with rm -rf $HOME
[15:29] <popey> of course, shell expands $HOME to /home/youruser
[15:29] <popey> rm -rf \$HOME
[15:30] <ujjain> ah yeah, that makes sense
[15:40] <intrbiz> ujjain: or single quote it
[15:40] <ujjain> single and double quotes are differnet?
[15:40] <intrbiz> ujjain: yes
[15:42] <intrbiz> ujjain: double quote allow interpolation, single do not, eg: T=test; echo "$T"; echo '$T'
[15:42] <ujjain> ah right
[15:42] <ujjain> #bash tells me every time to doublequote variables
[15:43] <ujjain> and that there is no good reason to use all-caps variables
[15:43] <intrbiz> ujjain: sure, if you want the variable to be interpolated, otherwise don't use double quotes
[15:43] <intrbiz> ujjain: all caps is just a coding style thing
[15:43] <ujjain> right thanks
[15:47] <shauno> I use caps for envars and lowercase for regular vars. but it just habit, it means nothing to the system
[15:48] <shauno> (also, I think creating a folder named $HOME comes under "enough rope to hang yourself with" ;)
[15:49] <intrbiz> yes, always be weary of rm -rf
[15:52] <ujjain> I think steam once deleted all the files of a user while installing
[15:52] <ujjain> they had rm -rf /$STEAM_HOME in a bash script
[15:52] <ujjain> but didn't check if $STEAM_HOME was set :P
[15:55] <intrbiz> grrrr, LibVirts documentation really is terrible :(
[15:56] <zmoylan-pi> if the documentation was good it would be out of date :-)
[15:56] <intrbiz> zmoylan-pi: well, often, the little bits of documentation they actually have are wrong anyway
[15:57] <zmoylan-pi> i never said anything about been right :-)
[15:57] <intrbiz> zmoylan-pi: didn't say you did, just pointing it out
[16:22] <mapps> perfect
[16:22] <mapps> cant see my phone display
[16:22] <mapps> it' somehow like its been set to as low as poss
[16:41] <daftykins> mapps: o0
[16:41] <daftykins> that's what you get for buying fruit ;)
[17:16] <popey> https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-gobq-grill-redefining-portability neat
[17:18] <zmoylan-pi> a fold up shovel would be smaller for making a bbq pit...
[17:20] <intrbiz> popey: pretty neat, but how bulky is the charcoal to carry around
[17:20] <popey> who carries charcoal around?
[17:20] <popey> you but that near where you're cooking
[17:20] <zmoylan-pi> artists :-)
[17:20] <popey> hah
[17:21] * zmoylan-pi prefers my kelly kettle. tiny volcano kettle used for making tea using minimum of fuel. can boil a brew with a newspaper
[17:22] <daftykins> neat!
[17:22] <mapps> ?
[17:22] <zmoylan-pi> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelly_Kettle
[17:24] * popey hugs his weber
[17:25] <zmoylan-pi> my father had a primus stove that dated back pre 40s i think. i always remember when driving on holiday brewing up beside the road on that primus... a cup of tea so hot you'd burn the mouth off you
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[10:17] <passt_> moin
[10:24] <passt_> habe ein problem mit einer log-datei, die aus einer über bash script laufenden rsync Sicherung erstellt wird.
[10:25] <bekks> Dann schildere doch das eigentliche Problem...
[10:25] <passt_> am anfang und am Ende der Datei wird Müll reingeschrieben obwohl ich das Erstellen der Datei mit "$DATE > $LOG" beginne
[10:26] <bekks> $DATE > $LOG ist ja ohne weiteren Kontext schon falsch.
[10:26] <bekks> Und welches Ubuntu verwendest Du?
[10:26] <Frickelpit> es wäre einfacher, wenn du das script in einen nopaste packst
[10:27] <passt_> das ist erstmal das Resultat: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11562719/
[10:27] <kubine> passt_: Title: Ubuntu Pastebin (at paste.ubuntu.com)
[10:28] <passt_> und als Script verwende ich das rsync Backup Script aus ubuntuusers http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Skripte/Backup_mit_RSYNC#Das-Skript
[10:28] <kubine> passt_: Title: Backup mit RSYNC › Skripte › Wiki › ubuntuusers.de (at wiki.ubuntuusers.de)
[10:28] <bekks> Zeig uns bitte DEIN Script, nicht die Vorlage aus dem Wiki.
[10:29] <bekks> Und nenne uns deine Ubuntuversion :)
[10:29] <stevieh> echo `date` > foo
[10:30] <passt_> das ist mein script (zumindest der wichtige anfang) http://paste.ubuntu.com/11562755/
[10:30] <kubine> passt_: Title: Ubuntu Pastebin (at paste.ubuntu.com)
[10:30] <bekks> Schieb dein GESAMTES Script in einen Pastebin und nenne uns deine Ubuntuversion.
[10:32] <passt_> Es ist leider kein Ubuntu, sondern ein Debian-Derivat, für das es über IRC keine Ansprechpartner gibt. Soll ich nach #ubuntu -de-offtopic gehen?
[10:32] <stevieh> :-)
[10:32] <bekks> Dann frag bitte den Support deines "Derivates".
[10:33] <bekks> Offensichtlich ist es ein UCS, und der HErsteller hat auch Supportmöglichkeiten.
[10:33] <passt_> nein, nicht UCS
[10:33] <passt_> Collax
[10:34] <bekks> Die haben auch ein Supportangebot.
[10:34] <stevieh> passt_: wenn du mir 2,38€ überweist, kann ich dir mein "uname -a" kopieren.
[10:40] <David1977> Wenn ich ein Skrip habe, welches (zum Beispiel) ein "^" vor einer Variable hat...was bewirkt das ^ dann? nimmt es die Zeichenfolge aus der Variablen und grept damit das erste Wort in der Zeile?
[10:40] <bekks> David1977: Zeig uns doch mal die komplette Zeile.
[10:42] <David1977> nicht lachen....das ist aus einem Lehrbuch ;)
[10:42] <David1977> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11563102/
[10:42] <kubine> David1977: Title: Ubuntu Pastebin (at paste.ubuntu.com)
[10:43] <bekks> Wohl eher aus einem Leerbuch.
[10:43] <David1977> lol
[10:43] <David1977> Quelle: http://openbook.rheinwerk-verlag.de/shell_programmierung/shell_006_000.htm#Xxx999276
[10:43] <kubine> David1977: Title: Rheinwerk Computing :: Shell-Programmierung – 4 Kontrollstrukturen (at openbook.rheinwerk-verlag.de)
[10:44] <bekks> Das ^$1 bewirkt, dass nach dem ersten dem Script übergebenen Parameter am Beginn jeder Zeile der Datei /etc/passwd gesucht wird.
[10:44] <David1977> ok, dann habe ich es richtig verstanden, danke
[10:44] <bekks> Und das ist alles, aber kein "Lehrbuch".
[10:44] <bekks> Das ist ein Buch des Rheinwerkverlages, früher Galileo Press.
[10:44] <David1977> Ja, ich weiß
[10:45] <David1977> Hälst du das für keine gute Lektüre?
[10:45] <bekks> Nein, halte ich nicht.
[10:45] <David1977> ok
[10:45] <bekks> http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide - nimm das da.
[10:45] <kubine> bekks: Title: BashGuide - Greg's Wiki (at mywiki.wooledge.org)
[10:45] <David1977> ok
[10:46] <David1977> bin zwar des englischen nicht unmächtig...vieles erklärt sich aber auf deutsch besser. Werde es aber dennoch parallel mit lesen
[10:46] <bekks> IdR sind die deutschen Übersetzungen zu solchen Themen grauenvoll schlecht.
[10:47] <David1977> Ja, glaube ich gerne
[10:47] <bekks> Dann lass das deutsche Buch da weg. :>
[10:47] <bekks> Zumal es wirklich Müll verbreitet.
[10:48] <David1977> Ich will dir nicht widersprechen...aber hast du es gelesen?
[10:48] <bekks> Ungeprüfte Parameter als Optionen für andere Befehle verwenden - ein sehr sicherer Weg sich gewaltig in die Füsse zu schiessen.
[10:48] <bekks> Das kleine Script dass du daraus gezeigt hast, reicht für diese Bewertung völlig aus.
[10:48] <David1977> es geht in dem Kapitel und in diesem Skript ausschließlich über die verdeutlichug von if
[10:49] <David1977> es wird oftmals gesagt, dass auf andere Dinge, die du gerade genannt hast, in späteren Kapitel eingegangen wird
[10:49] <David1977> aber ich nehme deinen Rat gern an und werde mich mit deinem Link ebenso auseinander setzen
[10:50] <David1977> konnte das mit dem ^ auch gerade nochmal erfolgreich testen in dem ich den grep befehl einfach direkt von der Kommandozeile ausgeführt habe
[10:50] <David1977> da ist dann der Unterschied ziemlich deutlich
[10:50] <bekks> Was für ein Unterschied? :)
[10:51] <David1977> Die gefunden Zeichenfolgen werden hier in rot markiert....führe ich den Befehl ohne das ^ aus werden mit mehrere rot markierte übereinstimmende Zeichenfolgen angezeigt. Mit dem ^ nur die erste zum Begin der Zeile
[10:52] <David1977> so wie du es auch gesagt hast
[11:57] <ask4help> hallo wie kann ich prüfen ob spezifische perl module vorhanden sind und wie kann ich welche nachinstallieren am einfachsten? danke für eine antwort ..
[12:00] <sdx23> ask4help: perl -MModulname -e '' # spuckt einen Fehler aus, wenn das Modul nicht gefunden wird.
[12:00] <sdx23> apt-cache search modulname-perl # sucht das Modul in den Repos.
[12:00] <ask4help> vielen dank! :)
[12:00] <sdx23> wenn modul nicht in den Repos, CPAN verwenden.
[12:00] <ask4help> oki doakie
[12:01] <ask4help> noch eine frage: kann ich module auch als non-root nachinstallieren/nutzen?
[12:01] <sdx23> mit cpan geht das. Die Repos-Variante ist aber zu bevorzugen.
[12:02] <ask4help> prima
[12:02] <zeroC> moinsen
[12:02] <zeroC> ist es moeglich bei unity applicationen auf einen desktop zu binden?
[12:03] <night__> hallo, ich hab da ein kleines "problem" Mit meinem capslock
[12:04] <night__> ich benutze das deutsche QWERTZ layout, und habe mir gerade Xubuntu 15.04 installiert. Leider bin ichs von WIndows gewohnt caps zu aktivieren, und z.b. 1 für ein ! zu drücken
[12:04] <night__> das geht allerdings bei Linux nicht..
[12:05] <sdx23> doch, musst du nur einstellen.
[12:05] <night__> ich bin noch ein totaler laie was das betriebssystem angeht... wie stell ich das anß
[12:06] <sdx23> in den Tastatureinstellungen. Ich habe kein XFCE, aber das sollte es schon geben, "Verhalten der Feststelltaste"
[12:08] <night__> find ich nicht. Unter den einstellung findet sich nur "Tastatur" und da gibt es die rubrik Verhalten, TAstenbelegung und tastenkürzel für anwendungen
[12:11] <sdx23> night__: in einem Terminal: setxkbmap -option caps:shift
[12:13] <sdx23> das ist nicht permanent. Damit du das nicht nach jedem Login machen musst, leg einen Starter in Autostart an, ahnlich hier http://software.clapper.org/cheat-sheets/xfce4-caps-control.png
[12:13] <sdx23> eventuell auch "caps:shiftlock", die docu ist nicht eindeutig.
[12:17] <night__> es hat funktionier! ALso der 2. befehl von sdx23. Und wie leg ich diesen starter genau an?
[12:18] <ask4help> also apt-cache search findet keines der module die ich brauche ..
[12:18] <zeroC> ask4help: was suchst du denn?
[12:18] <sdx23> wie in dem Bild gezeigt. Der Dialog ist unter Settings > Session and Startup > Application Autostart
[12:19] <ask4help> sdx23: IO::Socket::SSL / Config::Tiny / String::CRC32
[12:20] <ask4help> wobei IO::Socket::SS wohl installiert ist bereits
[12:20] <ask4help> +L
[12:23] <night__> danke euch allen für die hilfe mit dem capslock! Zwar weiß ich nicht wie ich den befehl als autostart mache, aber hab ihn mir notiert.
[12:24] <sdx23> night__: hier auch ausführlich beschireben: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Autostart#Xubuntu-Xfce
[12:24] <kubine> sdx23: Title: Autostart › Wiki › ubuntuusers.de (at wiki.ubuntuusers.de)
[12:25] <sdx23> ask4help: libconfig-tiny-perl
[12:25] <sdx23> ask4help: libio-socket-ssl-perl libstring-crc32-perl
[12:26] <ask4help> das einfach an der command line eingeben?
[12:28] <ask4help> wäre nicht perl -e shell -MCPAN
[12:28] <ask4help> gefolgt von cpan> install String::CRC32 etc. besser?
[12:34] <ask4help> jo so geht das wunderbar
[12:36] <sdx23> Geht, und geht auch kaputt, wenn sich mal mehr an der Perl-Installation ändert (zB durch Updates). Deswegen empfahl ich, die Ubuntu Pakete über die Paketverwaltung zu installieren.
[16:16] <PachiriSuu> servus
[16:19] <jokrebel> grep PachiriSuu
[17:01] <Ralf35> hallo nutzt hier jemand plowshare bzw. kennt sich damit aus? mir geht es darum wo ich aktuelle module herbekomme
[17:11] <jokrebel> Ralf35: Hab zwar keine Ahnung davon aber vielleicht hilft Dir ja schon https://launchpad.net/~plowsharepackagers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa weiter
[17:11] <kubine> jokrebel: Title: Plowshare Release PPA : “plowshare-packagers” team (at launchpad.net)
[17:12] <Ralf35> danke da schau ich mal
[17:15] <Ralf35> auf der seite war ich schon aber irgendwie hat mich das nicht wirklich weiter gebracht
[17:20] <jokrebel> Falls Du mit PPA nichts anfangen kannst könnte http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/paketquellen_freischalten/ppa hilfreich sein.
[17:20] <kubine> jokrebel: Title: PPA › Paketquellen freischalten › Wiki › ubuntuusers.de (at wiki.ubuntuusers.de)
[17:21] <Ralf35> über git gehts wohl
[17:21] <jokrebel> ohje
[17:54] <Ralf35> woran kann es liegen das ich nicht auf eine http://code.google.com seite komme der gegenüber ich mich über meinen gmail account authentifizieren muss?
[17:54] <kubine> Ralf35: Title: Google Code (at code.google.com)
[17:55] <bekks> Definiere "nicht auf eine Seite komme".
[17:55] <Ralf35> ich kriege die meldung: "Your client does not have permission to get URL /p/plowshare/ from this server. That’s all we know."
[17:55] <bekks> Das ist doch recht aussagekräftig.
[17:55] <Ralf35> werd noch wahnsinnig
[17:55] <Ralf35> was ist daran aussagekräftig????
[17:56] <bekks> "You dont have permission."
[17:56] <Ralf35> ich will weiter nix als diese bescheuerte seite aufrufen
[17:56] <bekks> Welcher Teil davon ist Dir unklar?
[17:56] <Ralf35> wieso hab ich da keine permissions?
[17:56] <bekks> Woher sollen WIR das denn wissen?
[17:56] <bekks> Frag den Betreiber der Seite.
[19:00] <kcalB> Hi nochmal, wie kann ich einen alternatieven dns server eintagen "ubuntu 14.04 server ; hostapd ; dnsmsq" wenn ich was in /etc/resolv.conf was nameserver 213.73.91.35 z.B. eintrage wird nach nem neustart wieder alles zurückgesetzt. kann mir jemand da weiterhelfen wie ich das richtig mache ?
[19:03] <Lothenon> http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/interfaces
[19:03] <kubine> Lothenon: Title: interfaces › Wiki › ubuntuusers.de (at wiki.ubuntuusers.de)
[19:05] <nagetier> kcalB, oder das - http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/dns_problembehebung#Einen-bestimmten-DNS-Server-verwenden
[19:05] <kubine> nagetier: Title: DNS Problembehebung › Wiki › ubuntuusers.de (at wiki.ubuntuusers.de)
[19:29] <kcalB> Lothenon, nagetier Danke ! ich glaub jetzt hat's geklappt :D
[19:29] <nagetier> kcalB, schön, "ubuntu dns resolv", mehr war nicht nötig um das zu finden ;)
[19:30] <kcalB> ja
[19:30] <kcalB> lach
[19:31] <kcalB> öhmm.... jetzt hab ich noch ein anderes problem wie bekomme ich nun die dns sch*** vom Provider weg O.o "interfaces hatte mir da weitergeholfen"
[19:31] <kcalB> ?
[19:32] <bekks> Lösungsweg wie oben.
[19:32] <kcalB> interfaces ?
[19:32] <bekks> Die beiden genannten Artikel.
[19:33] <nagetier> kcalB, du hast keinen Router zwischen dem Rechner und deinem Provider?
[19:34] <nagetier> ah, vergiss es
[19:34] <kcalB> ne Kabelmodem > netbook als Router > wlan > client
[19:36] <nagetier> ah, also doch ein router
[19:37] <kcalB> netbook als Wlan router
[19:37] <nagetier> kcalB, dann stelle das auf dem ein
[19:38] <kcalB> nagetier, wenn ich wüsste wie O.o sorry wenn ich begrifsstutzig bin
[19:38] <kcalB> +f
[19:39] <nagetier> kcalB, macht nichts ;) der router wird, vermute ich, per dhcp seine adresse beziehen, was auch dns einschließt.. ändere das
[19:39] <nagetier> wie und wo kann ich so nicht sagen, kA was du dort verwendest
[19:40] <kcalB> moment ich habs gemacht wie in http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/WLAN_Router beschrieben ist, nicht mehr nicht weniger
[19:40] <kubine> kcalB: Title: WLAN Router › Wiki › ubuntuusers.de (at wiki.ubuntuusers.de)
[19:46] <nagetier> kcalB, du hattest das instant_AP.sh script auf der seite verwendet?
[19:46] <kcalB> nein
[19:46] <nagetier> kcalB, der router auch ein ubuntu?
[19:46] <kcalB> nagetier, läuft ja als dienst
[19:46] <kcalB> ja
[19:46] <nagetier> kcalB, dann schau an selbiger position nach
[19:49] <kcalB> nagetier, ich find's umm's verrecken nicht wie und wo das eingetragen ist
[19:49] <bekks> Naja, wo suchst du denn?
[19:50] <bekks> Und welchen DNS Eintrag willst du ändern - den der Clients oder den deines Routers?
[19:51] <kcalB> /etc/network/interfaces ; /etc/dnsmasq.conf ; /etc/resolv.conf
[19:51] <nagetier> bekks, den vom Router, d der sehr wahrscheinlich den DNS vom Provider bezogen hatte
[19:51] <nagetier> *da
[19:51] <kcalB> ja
[19:52] <kcalB> ich könnt ko***
[19:52] <bekks> Wie sehen die drei Dateien denn aus?
[19:52] <kcalB> mom pastebin
[19:52] <nagetier> IMO sollte das alles über dnsmasq zu regeln sein
[19:55] <bekks> kcalB: Was ist jetzt mit den drei Dateien?
[19:56] <kcalB> ich bin nit der schnellste oder willste die als datei kann ich dir schicken :D
[19:57] <bekks> Es ist keine Raketenwissenschaft "pastebinit dateiname" einzutippen und die URL hier zu posten :)
[19:58] <kcalB> http://pastebin.com/DSKtY30Q http://pastebin.com/KapMcwv7 und http://pastebin.com/SxhQD70g
[19:58] <kubine> kcalB: Title: resolv.conf - Pastebin.com (at pastebin.com)
[19:58] <kcalB> sorry schneller gings nicht "copy paste"
[19:59] <bekks> Und dann hätte ich gerne auch noch ein "ifconfig -a" und ein "lsb_release -a"
[19:59] <kcalB> ja
[20:03] <kcalB> http://pastebin.com/0MwNPaR6 und http://pastebin.com/ksMq6LCm
[20:03] <kubine> kcalB: Title: ifconfig -a - Pastebin.com (at pastebin.com)
[20:05] <bekks> Wie ich sehe ist das eine von dir geänderte Ausgabe.
[20:06] <kcalB> wie geändert ? O.o
[20:07] <bekks> Stell dich nicht dumm bitte :)
[20:07] <kcalB> meinst du p32p1
[20:07] <bekks> DAS ist jedenfalls keine originale Ausgabe von "ifconfig -a".
[20:07] <bekks> Du hast sie manuell editiert.
[20:07] <kcalB> **.***
[20:07] <kcalB> das hier?
[20:07] <kcalB> ^
[20:07] <bekks> Hast Du sonst noch weitere Dinge editiert?
[20:07] <kcalB> nein
[20:08] <kcalB> warum sollet ich !
[20:08] <kcalB> p32p1 ist von der server version
[20:08] <bekks> Keine Ahnung, weil du von deiner Änderung ja auch nichts gesagt hast.
[20:09] <kcalB> ich hab nur ip mit ******** verändert und sonst nicht's
[20:09] <kcalB> und wie gesagt netbook fungiert nur als wlan router
[20:10] <kcalB> also nur ubuntu server
[20:11] <kcalB> dann sag doch was daran komisch ist was ich verädert haben sollte
[20:11] <bekks> Du hast die Ausgabe von ifconfig geändert und deine Änderung nicht erwähnt.
[20:11] <kcalB> ja nur das mit den 2 dns einträge
[20:12] <bekks> ??
[20:12] <bekks> ifconfig zeigt keine DNS Einträge an.
[20:12] <kcalB> dns-nameservers 213.73.91.35
[20:12] <kcalB> dns-nameservers 62.141.58.13
[20:12] <kcalB> die zwei
[20:12] <bekks> Was ist mit denen?
[20:13] <kcalB> das hab ich verädert
[20:13] <kcalB> mehr nicht
[20:13] <bekks> Also noch was verändert ohne es zu sagen.
[20:13] <bekks> Was denn noch alles?
[20:14] <kcalB> sonst nicht der rest ist von http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/WLAN_Router
[20:14] <kubine> kcalB: Title: WLAN Router › Wiki › ubuntuusers.de (at wiki.ubuntuusers.de)
[20:14] <nagetier> kcalB, wo stehen denn die dns-nameservers Einträge.. ändere die doch auf Server, die du verwenden möchtest
[20:15] <nagetier> war das nicht das ursprüngliche "Problem" :)
[20:15] <kcalB> ja wenn ich das wüsste wo die stehen die vom provider
[20:15] <kcalB> ja, ich will nur dns vom provider loswerden
[20:15] <bekks> Welche DNS Einträge stammen vom Provider?
[20:16] <bekks> Welche IP Adressen?
[20:17] <kcalB> Benutze Namensserver 83.169.185.33#53 und Benutze Namensserver 83.169.185.97#53
[20:17] <kcalB> han ich von /var/log/syslog
[20:19] <bekks> Die /etc/resolv.conf hast du aber nicht selbst geändert, oder?
[20:20] <kcalB> geht ja nicht, weil sie wieder zurückgesetzt wird
[20:21] <bekks> Und warum genau glaubst du, dass du andere Nameserver verwendest, wenn die vernwendeten Nameserver ausschliesslich in der /etc/resolv.con stehen?
[20:21] <kcalB> syslog ?
[20:21] <bekks> Nochmal:
[20:22] <bekks> Warum genau glaubst du, dass du andere Nameserver verwendest, wenn die vernwendeten Nameserver ausschliesslich in der /etc/resolv.con stehen?
[20:22] <kcalB> ka ?
[20:23] <bekks> Gut, dann sehe ich das Problem als gelöst an.
[20:23] <kcalB> achsoooo
[20:23] <kcalB> also was in resolv.conf steht wird benutzt ?! kenn mich ja nicht so gut aus
[20:24] <bekks> Vielleicht solltest du erstmal deinen "Router" abschalten und erstmal die Dinge, die du da tun willst, kennenlernen.
[20:25] <StefanWN> 8-)
[20:27] <kcalB> bekks, dann verstehei ich nicht was die einträge in syslog solln http://pastebin.com/WRKsk9aQ
[20:27] <kubine> kcalB: Title: syslog "ausschnitt" - Pastebin.com (at pastebin.com)
[20:28] <bekks> kcalB: Dann zeig uns bitte alle Dateien, die mit diesem BEfehl gefunden werden: find /etc/ -type f | grep dnsmasq
[20:29] <kcalB> http://pastebin.com/cU4DF5Hx
[20:29] <kubine> kcalB: Title: root@Server:~# find /etc/ -type f | grep dnsmasq /etc/dbus-1/system.d/dnsmasq.c - Pastebin.com (at pastebin.com)
[20:40] <nagetier> kcalB, schau ma' in /etc/dnsmasq.conf , /etc/resolvconf/update.d/dnsmasq und /etc/default/dnsmasq nach, in zumindest einer dieser dieser sollten die DNS-Server angegeben sein
[20:40] <bekks> Naja, wir warten ja seit 12 Minuten auf eine Handvoll Pastebins :)
[20:41] <kcalB> öhmm alles ? paste ? O.o
[20:41] <nagetier> ahso :) .. ich verfolge das hier nicht ganz
[20:41] <kcalB> ja
[20:41] <bekks> kcalB: Welcher Teil von "0604 222825 < bekks> kcalB: Dann zeig uns bitte alle Dateien, die mit diesem BEfehl gefunden werden: find /etc/ -type f | grep dnsmasq
[20:41] <bekks> "
[20:41] <bekks> ist dir unklar?
[20:42] <nagetier> oder grep nach den IPs
[20:42] <nagetier> ne, lasse das, eines nach dem anderen :)
[20:43] <kcalB> jajajaja ufff
[20:45] <nagetier> kcalB, Zeile 2, 3, 7, 9 und 10 kannst auslassen.. bei 2 bin ich nicht ganz sicher
[20:45] <nagetier> denke das bestätigt auch der bekks und wäre damit einverstanden?
[20:46] <bekks> Ja, passt :)
[20:48] <nagetier> kcalB, das Werkzeug 'pastebinit' ist dir bekannt?
[20:48] <bekks> Ja.
[20:49] <nagetier> mir kommt das alles sehr händisch vor
[20:49] <kcalB> wie gehts schneller ? O.o
[20:49] <bekks> Aber mir ist das Problem inzwischen egal, weil man sich hier den Mund fusselig redet, und genau nichts davon länger als 20s in Erinnerung bkeibt.
[20:50] <bekks> kcalB: Ich nannte Dir vorhin pastebinit. Das hast du gepflegt ignoriert. Und ich habe keine Lust mehr hier ewig zu warten.
[20:50] <bekks> :)
[20:50] <kcalB> sorry dachte pastebin url
[20:51] <bekks> Lesen soll ja helfen.
[20:51] <kcalB> ja sorry ich weiß ja nicht das es so was gibt
[20:51] <nagetier> kcalB, 'pastebinit *einer-dieser-dateien*', und das spuckt eine URL aus
[20:51] <bekks> kcalB: Du weisst es, weil ich es Dir vorhin genannt habe.
[20:51] <kcalB> coooool
[20:53] <nagetier> möglicherweise kannst da auch alle Dateien in einem TRutsch angeben.. müsste nachlesen, steht aber in der man zu pastebinit
[20:54] <kcalB> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11573742/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/11573768/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/11573799/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/11573834/
[20:54] <kubine> kcalB: Title: Ubuntu Pastebin (at paste.ubuntu.com)
[20:54] <kcalB> und
[20:56] <kcalB> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11573861/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/11573869/
[20:56] <kubine> kcalB: Title: Ubuntu Pastebin (at paste.ubuntu.com)
[20:56] <kcalB> juhuuuu
[20:58] <sash_> Multiline-Edit muss man sich aber tatsächlich richtig merken.
[21:01] <sash_> Ist aber wenigstens einigermaßen schlau.
[21:01] <sash_> Huch
[21:16] <kcalB> bekks, ich hoffe das dass richtige ist, sorry das ich auf'm schlauch gestanden habe
[21:20] <nagetier> kcalB, verwende mal selbigen Befehl und grep nach den IPs aus syslog.. das Ergebnis sollte dann eigentlich selbsterklärend sein. Jedenfalls wirst du so den Ort der Einstellung erfahren.
[21:21] <kcalB> okay nagetier :)
[21:35] <kcalB> nagetier, irgendwie bekomme ich das nicht hin mit dem befehl ( find /var/log/syslog -type f | grep 83.169.185.33 ) oder hab ich irgendwas falsch gemacht? O.o
[21:36] <bekks> Der Befehl macht keinerlei Sinn.
[21:36] <nagetier> kcalB, die IPs sind bekannt, suche nach denen in /etc
[21:38] <kcalB> bekks, ich kenn mich mit den befehl greb; find nicht wirklich aus wie man die anwendet
[21:39] <bekks> grep -ri ipadresse /etc/*
[21:42] <kcalB> grep: /etc/blkid.tab: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden
[21:42] <kcalB> ???
[21:42] <bekks> Wie sieht der gesamte Befehl aus...?
[21:43] <kcalB> grep -ri 83.169.185.33 /etc/*
[21:44] <kcalB> find /etc/ -type f | grep -ri 83.169.185.33
[21:44] <bekks> Und was stört dich jetzt an "grep: /etc/blkid.tab: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden"?
[21:44] <kcalB> bei dem kommt nichts raus
[21:44] <bekks> Und wieso fängst du wieder mit diesem scheiss find an?
[21:44] <bekks> find sucht Dateinamen.
[21:44] <kcalB> achso
[21:45] <kcalB> also "grep: /etc/blkid.tab: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden" bedeutet, das der nichts gefunden hat oder wie ?
[21:46] <bekks> Was könnte "/etc/blkid.tab: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden" bedeuten?
[21:46] <bekks> So rein intuitiv.
[21:46] <kcalB> nicht vorhanden ?
[21:46] <bekks> Wow.
[21:47] <bekks> Und was stört dich an der Meldung, dass irgendeine Datei nicht da ist?
[21:47] <kcalB> ka , das ist das ergebnis von grep -ri 83.169.185.33 /etc/*
[21:48] <bekks> Die komplette Ausgabe?
[21:48] <bekks> Das glaube ich nicht :)
[21:48] <kcalB> ja
[21:48] <kcalB> doch
[21:49] <bekks> Glaube ich nicht.
[21:49] <bekks> Ich habe das gerade auf zwei Maschinen ausgeführt, und in jeder möglichen Konstellation ist die Ausgabe länger.
[21:49] <kcalB> ja was soll den das noch ausspuken
[21:49] <bekks> Deutlich mehr.
[21:50] <bekks> Oder aber du verschweigst uns, dass du das als root ausführst.
[21:50] <kcalB> mehr wie grep -ri 83.169.185.33 /etc/* hab ich ja nicht eingetippt und wie gesagt "/etc/blkid.tab: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden" mehr kommt nicht raus
[21:51] <kcalB> die ganze zeit schon mit root
[21:51] <bekks> ahja.
[21:53] <kcalB> ja moment kann das sein das dass was mit ubunu-server zutun hat, weill auf einem anderen rechner kommt wie du gesagt hast mehr raus, ne ganze latte
[21:53] <bekks> Dashat nur etwas mit root zu tun.
[21:55] <kcalB> achsoo ?
[21:56] <kcalB> jetzt
[21:56] <kcalB> http://pastebin.com/h9ALPC7d
[21:56] <kubine> kcalB: Title: grep -ri 83.169.185.33 /etc/* - Pastebin.com (at pastebin.com)
[21:57] <bekks> Such mal spasseshalber nur nach der 83
[21:58] <kcalB> O.O ach du scheiße
[21:59] <nagetier> oder nach den anderen IPs aus syslog
[21:59] <nagetier> da sollte genau eine Datei ausgegeben werden, jedenfalls war das meine Hoffnung.. abzüglich derer, auf die man keinen Zugriff hat
[22:00] <nagetier> oder ine, plus resolv.conf
[22:00] <kcalB> Jun 4 21:26:06 Server dnsmasq[810]: Benutze Namensserver 83.169.185.33#53
[22:00] <nagetier> *eine
[22:01] <bekks> kcalB: Was soll nun wieder die Zeile aus dem Syslog hier?
[22:01] <kcalB> grep syslog
[22:01] <bekks> WARUM?
[22:02] <kcalB> sollte ich nicht in syslog suchen ? *duck*
[22:02] <bekks> Nein.
[22:02] <bekks> Egal. Ich bin raus aus der Nummer.
[22:02] <ubu> bekks: ich brauch dich gleich
[22:03] <nagetier> kcalB, du hattest mich falsch verstanden.. die IPs der DNS-Server sind bekannt, da sie in syslog ausgegeben werden.. schnapp dir diese, jede für sich, und grep damit in /etc, 'grep -ri *IP-AUS-SYSLOG* /etc/*'
[22:03] <bekks> ubu: Wofür?
[22:03] <ubu> bekks: hab ein problem mit einem grafikkarten treiber
[22:03] <ubu> kleinen moment
[22:03] <bekks> ubu: Und ich soll das Problem erraten?
[22:03] <ubu> bekks: nein nein warte doch bitte kurz
[22:04] <kcalB> danke dir bekks :) sorry das ich deine nerven strapaziert habe _))
[22:06] <kcalB> kann das sein , das interfaces oder resolv.conf sich die irgend wie selbst holt ? von der netzwerkerkennung von der installation vom server ?
[22:07] <bekks> Redest du von deinen Clients oder von deinem Router?
[22:07] <kcalB> ja
[22:07] <kcalB> nein
[22:08] <kcalB> vom server
[22:08] <bekks> Das ist keine valide Antwort auf meine Frage.
[22:08] <bekks> Egal. Ich halte mich da raus.
[22:08] <kcalB> nein nicht von den clients
[22:08] <kcalB> sever selbst
[22:09] <kcalB> ich hab doch kein router in dem sinne, sondern nur kabelmodem
[22:09] <bekks> Du HAST einen Router.
[22:09] <bekks> Aber sowas von.
[22:09] <bekks> Zumindest hattest du vorhin noch einen.
[22:09] <ubudesk> bekks: gpu: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RV505 CE [Radeon X1550 64-bit] | os: 14.04 64bit - problem bekomme gpu treiber nicht installiert, kann ich davon ausgehen das das os zu neu ist? es handelt sich um diesen treiber: http://snag.gy/4Y1iR.jpg fehler: http://snag.gy/LWYts.jpg
[22:10] <bekks> kcalB: Vielleicht solltest du das Ding wirklich ausschalten, und Dir erstmal klar werden, was Du da eigentlich tust.
[22:10] <k1l> ubudesk: was ist mit dem fglrx von ubuntu?
[22:10] <bekks> ubudesk: Ich habe noch nie AMD/ATI Grafikkarten benutzt. Ich kann Dir da nicht helfen.
[22:11] <ubudesk> bekks: okay kein problem
[22:11] <kcalB> bekks, ich bin bei kabel deutschland und hab ein kablmodem thomson Thomson thg540
[22:11] <ubudesk> k1l: wenn ich diesen installiere dann komme ich bis zum login, melde ich mich an habe ich einen schwarzen bildschirm
[22:11] <k1l> ubudesk: oder ist das die letzte version, die deine karte da unterstützt?
[22:11] <bekks> kcalB: Und diese Informationen sind mir völlig egal.
[22:11] <ubudesk> ubu: ich weiß es nicht
[22:12] <ubudesk> k1l: habe auf der amd seite nur diesen treiber gefunden
[22:12] <kcalB> egal jetzt, ich geb auf
[22:12] <k1l> ubudesk: ja, deine alte karte wird von amd nicht mehr unterstützt. nutze den freien treiber
[22:12] <Ralf35> kcalB: sag mal lieber was zum thema kd und drosselung
[22:13] <kcalB> danke auch dir nagetier für deine hilfe :)
[22:13] <ubudesk> k1l: okay danke schon mal, aber da habe ich das problem das ich einen schwarzen bildschirm erhalte nach dem login
[22:13] <ubudesk> k1l: bzw. er schemißt mich nach dem login wider zum login
[22:13] <Ralf35> wen interessiert so tv karten kram ...
[22:13] <k1l> ubudesk: mit welchem treiber?
[22:13] <kcalB> Ralf35, welche drosslung ? bis her keine probleme gehabt :P
[22:13] <ubudesk> den freien, moment suche befhel
[22:13] <k1l> Ralf35: mach nen blog auf, wenn du nur ranten willst
[22:13] <Ralf35> ich bin hier falsch, machts gut
[22:14] <Ralf35> alles uninteressante themen
[22:14] <bekks> Ralf35: Tschüss.
[22:14] <Ralf35> und bei den themen die mich interessieren kann mir keiner helfen
[22:14] <Ralf35> gut n8
[22:15] <k1l> ubudesk: der freie treiber ist das was läuft wenn du keinen treiber installierst.
[22:15] <ubudesk> k1l: sudo apt-get install fglrx* | zwischenfrage oder ist das der freie treiber? Gallium 0.4 on ATI RV515
[22:16] <k1l> ubudesk: nein, fglrx ist der prop. amd treiber.
[22:16] <ubudesk> ah okay
[22:16] <k1l> ubudesk: der frei treiber (open source trieber) ist der, der automatisch läuft, ohne das du was machst.
[22:16] <ubudesk> dieser gallium rennt aber für spiele her ungeeigent
[22:16] <ubudesk> okay verstanden
[22:16] <nagetier> kcalB, du hattest jetzt nach allen IPs, die dir syslog nannte, in /etc/ gesucht, und da wurde nicht eine Datei ausgegeben, die die aufweist?
[22:17] <ubudesk> k1l: könnte man den prop. amd treiber zum laufen bekommen?
[22:17] <nagetier> *in /etc/ auf dem Router, deinem Server, das Netbook Dingen
[22:17] <k1l> ubudesk: also wenn dein ubuntu 14.04 läuft ohne, dass du was machst, dann sei froh. wenn du ne karte hast, die von amd verstoßen wurde und wo der freie treiber nicht so gut geht: arschkarte.
[22:17] <kcalB> nagetier, ja
[22:17] <ubudesk> k1l: also alles so lassen?
[22:18] <k1l> ubudesk: nein. die laten treiber passen mit den neuen paketen in den neuen ubuntus nicht mehr überein. (hast du ja schon getestet)
[22:18] <ubudesk> hmpf stzeh aufm schlauch der von amd auf der seite ist der gleiche wie sudo apt-get install fglrx*
[22:18] <ubudesk> ?
[22:18] <k1l> ubudesk: ja
[22:19] <kcalB> nagetier, ist einfach nicht's und nirgend was zu finden
[22:19] <ubudesk> ohje besten dank
[22:19] <ubudesk> k1l: ach so bei gpus immer zu nvidia greifen? weniger ärger?
[22:19] <k1l> nur das der fglrx von ubuntu schon mit deinem system kompatibel gemacht wurde. so bekommt man automatisch updates und bei einem kernel update muss man den treiber nicht jedes mal neu installieren etc.
[22:20] <k1l> ubudesk: amd schmeisst sehr schnell alte karten raus.
[22:20] <bekks> nagetier: Frag ihn doch mal nach der Ausgabe von sudo grep -ri 83 /etc/*
[22:20] <ubudesk> okay
[22:20] <ubudesk> thx k1l
[22:21] <nagetier> kcalB, kann der Router denn selber eine IP auflösen, was sagt auf dem zB 'ping www.google.de' (nicht dass der Client die DNS vom Provider eingetragen hat)
[22:21] <nagetier> wobei.. dann stünde es nicht in syslog.. vergiss es
[22:26] <kcalB> bekks, nagetier wenn ich eingebe sudo grep -ri 83 /etc/* bekomme ich das http://paste.ubuntu.com/11575191/
[22:26] <kubine> kcalB: Title: Ubuntu Pastebin (at paste.ubuntu.com)
[22:27] <nagetier> kcalB, ok, das hilft nicht weiter :)
[22:27] <bekks> nagetier: Die Ausgabe ist unvollständig ;)
[22:28] <kcalB> kopf auf tisch
[22:28] <kcalB> und soweiter
[22:29] <kcalB> /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt ................. noch ca 7-8 zeilen so weiter
[22:40] <nagetier> kcalB, hier http://paste.ubuntu.com/11573768/ und hier http://paste.ubuntu.com/11573799/ .. das sind die beiden Dateien, die angefasst werden müssen, teilweise steht das auch in der Ersten. Wie genau, musst du selber herausbekommen.. das ist mir auch zu wirsch
[22:40] <kubine> nagetier: Title: Ubuntu Pastebin (at paste.ubuntu.com)
[22:41] <StefanWN> kcalB's Problem scheint gelöst zu sein :)
[22:41] <nagetier> kann es mir kaum vorstellen :)
[22:42] <kcalB> :D
[22:43] <kcalB> so bin weg danke noch an bekks und nagetier , nacht euch alle
[22:43] <nagetier> joa, gn8
[22:50] <StefanWN> btw, habe eben erfolgreich Trusty Tahr auf einem Macbook Pro 5,4 installiert. Alles funktioniert bestens, selbst alle FN-Tasten und die Tastaturbeleuchtung. Einzig das WLAN wollte noch nicht so recht; bis die Broadcom FW installiert war. Respekt für diesen Support :)
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2015-06-04-#cloud-init
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[14:02] <larsks> harlowja: btw, submitted that pr yesterday. And now it has tests, too.
[15:39] <Odd_Bloke> smoser: I'm looking at fixing https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cloud-init/+bug/1411582 in cloud-init.
[15:40] <Odd_Bloke> smoser: My suggested fix is to shift the udev rule that creates /dev/disk/azure/... in to cloud-init, and then teach cloud-init to dereference /dev/disk/... symlinks.
[15:41] <Odd_Bloke> smoser: We could also look at making the directory created more generic (e.g. /dev/disk/cloud-init/...), so that we have a single place to look for stuff on different clouds.
[15:42] <Odd_Bloke> (This would, for example, allow us to answer 'do I have an ephemeral disk?' by just looking at /dev/disk/cloud-init/ephemeral or whatever)
[15:42] <Odd_Bloke> smoser: Thoughts?
[17:02] <smoser> Odd_Bloke, well, looking forward, there is a plan for a block device usage languange. that explicitly declares how disks should be used. this will support raid, lvm, bcache ...
[17:02] <smoser> that is happening for curtin usage.
[17:02] <smoser> i'd like for cloud-init to be able to take that language and render it into being also.
[17:07] <smoser> the added piece that cloud-init needs is kind of what you were mentioning. curtin will be fed disk config like http://paste.ubuntu.com/10939715/ .
[17:08] <smoser> but ideally cloud-init can then allow substitution of things like 'ephemeral0' where it finds out what that is.
[17:23] <harlowja> larsks awesome
[17:23] <Odd_Bloke> smoser: Right, is that something that can happen now? We've got pressure from Azure to get this fixed.
[17:24] <Odd_Bloke> smoser: (Also, will we realistically ever take the curtin language in to 0.7.x?)
[17:26] <smoser> Odd_Bloke, probably not
[18:00] <smoser> Odd_Bloke, so i think i'm ok with the overall idea.
[18:00] <smoser> then cloud-init would allow users to specify 'ephemeral0' as they can elsewhere.
[18:00] <smoser> and on azure that would map to /dev/cloud-init/ephemeral0
[18:00] <smoser> i think thats what you're saying
[18:16] <Odd_Bloke> smoser: Yeah, it would be /dev/disk/cloud-init/ci-ephemeral or somesuch.
[18:16] <Odd_Bloke> smoser: Ben proposed this udev config: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11566987/
[18:17] <smoser> it doesnt seem unreasonble.
[18:18] <smoser> but i dont know how this determines between "running on azure" and "running on hyper-v"
[18:19] <alexpilotti> smoser: this is for cirros?
[18:19] <smoser> alexpilotti, that above was azure ubuntu
[18:20] <alexpilotti> oh, k tx
[18:20] <Odd_Bloke> smoser: I'm not sure either; udev is not my strong suit. Let me check with Ben.
[18:23] <Odd_Bloke> smoser: Ben confirmed with Microsoft that that would only match in Azure environments.
[18:27] <smoser> why would they only match in azure
[18:27] <smoser> that is odd
[18:27] <smoser> dont you think ?
[18:27] <smoser> ID_VENDOR of Msft
[18:27] <smoser> odd
[18:35] <Odd_Bloke> smoser: I _think_ it's the UUIDs that are Azure-specific.
[18:36] <smoser> ah. that does seem more reaosnable.
[21:16] <alexpilotti> smoser: I’m hearing about ext4 for config drives
[21:48] <smoser> alexpilotti, that is odd / roughly stupid
[21:49] <smoser> not really here. but a link to info woudl be good. but really cloud-init doesnt care.
[23:35] <harlowja> windows dll fun scares me lol
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2015-06-04-#ubuntu-nz
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[20:03] <ibeardslee> morning
[20:50] <hads> morning
[22:13] <olly> morning
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2015-06-04-#ubuntu-meeting
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[13:01] <xnox> pleia2: heya, i will not be able to make a catchup.
[13:02] <xnox> pleia2: w.r.t. to current developers there are no active developers that i know off, that have upload rights, yet would somehow fail dmb (... or at least fail to get +1 from) requirements for their upload rights.
[13:03] <xnox> pleia2: there has been little applications lately, but i guess it's because we were frozen.
[13:51] <MooDoo> xnox: oh let it go will you ;)
[13:51] * MooDoo must trying to stop being funny
[15:01] <barry> o/
[15:01] <caribou> o/
[15:02] <jodh> o/
[15:02] <cyphermox> o/
[15:03] <infinity> \o
[15:03] * stgraber waves
[15:04] <slangasek> hello hello
[15:04] <bdmurray> \o
[15:05] <slangasek> #startmeeting
[15:05] <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Jun 4 15:05:07 2015 UTC. The chair is slangasek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[15:05] <slangasek> [TOPIC] Lightning round
[15:05] <slangasek> $ echo $(shuf -e barry doko stgraber jodh bdmurray slangasek caribou infinity mvo sil2100 robru cyphermox)
[15:05] <slangasek> mvo bdmurray infinity stgraber jodh doko sil2100 barry slangasek cyphermox robru caribou
[15:05] <slangasek> mvo not here? bdmurray
[15:06] <bdmurray> continued to work on improvements to apport-retrace to check launchpad for packages not available in archive or on ddebs.u.c
[15:06] <bdmurray> tested issue with apport-retrace and StacktraceSource being inadequate
[15:06] <bdmurray> wrote a job to backfill system image counters for systems without an alias
[15:06] <bdmurray> tested backfill system image counters for systems without an alias
[15:06] <bdmurray> investigation into error tracker oops reports for webops
[15:06] <bdmurray> checked on error tracker status because of PS4 issues
[15:06] <bdmurray> submitted RT to have errors_static_url updated
[15:06] <bdmurray> updated error tracker assets with Wily Werewolf milestones
[15:06] <bdmurray> foundations bug triage
[15:06] <bdmurray> ✔ done
[15:06] <infinity> - Kernel SRU wrangling
[15:06] <infinity> - Dealt with maas SRUs
[15:06] <infinity> - General SRU and AA work
[15:06] <infinity> - Worked on lts-vivid debian-installer upload, and other HWE bits
[15:06] <infinity> - Validating lts-vivid d-i on 6 architectures
[15:06] <infinity> - Start on reinstalling arm64 buildds with distro kernels
[15:06] <infinity> - Got Mir building on ppc/ppc64el
[15:06] <infinity> (done)
[15:07] <stgraber> LXC, LXD and other container stuff. Working on features for LXD 0.11 to be released next Tuesday.
[15:07] <stgraber> 3 of the 4 LXD/container talks we submitted to LinuxCon/ContainerCon were accepted, so dealing with the logistic of all that a bit.
[15:07] <stgraber> I'm also off tomorrow, then working from Europe next week but only on Monday, Tuesday and Thursday, taking the rest of the week off.
[15:08] <stgraber> (DONE)
[15:08] <jodh> * snappy
[15:08] <jodh> - selftests
[15:08] <jodh> - working on failure scenario tests
[15:08] <jodh> - debugging /boot/grub corruption issue.
[15:08] <jodh> ????
[15:10] <slangasek> ah, doko is off today
[15:10] <slangasek> as is sil2100
[15:10] <slangasek> barry:
[15:10] <barry> si: LP: #1444347; reviewed lp:~caio1982/ubuntu-system-image/remote-sis-generator-skips-metadata
[15:10] <barry> snappy: several discussions & gdoc reviews
[15:10] <barry> debuntu: zope.interface 4.1.2-1 (investigating); python-cachecontrol 0.11.5-1; python-persistent 4.1.0-1 and 4.1.1-1; pip 7 dependencies; python-chameleon-2.22-1 (and debian bug #770136 debian bug #752293); enum34 1.0.4-1; python-pex 1.0.0-1; flufl.password 1.3-2
[15:10] <barry> also: chasing weird python3.4 and python3.5 wily promotion failures
[15:10] <barry> other: python issue 23968 (platform triplets in sys.path)
[15:10] <barry> --done--
[15:11] <slangasek> * worked through autopilot SRU, and the issues with it being built by the train
[15:11] <slangasek> * ongoing discussions around go, go shared library support landing upstream
[15:11] <slangasek> * triaging new list of incoming requests for ppc64el in 15.10
[15:11] <slangasek> * with barry, landed fix to hardlink delta handling in s-i server
[15:12] <slangasek> * dropped a transitional channel from the system-image server, because it was moving users from the BQ custom tarball to the community custom tarball with ill effect
[15:12] <slangasek> * updated update-notifier to use python3 instead of python2 now that its dependencies are in place
[15:12] <slangasek> * tracking of shim signing request to Microsoft
[15:12] <slangasek> (done)
[15:12] <slangasek> cyphermox:
[15:12] <cyphermox> * grub2 OsIndicationsSupported fwsetup entry fix for OVMF_1f. (bug 1456911)
[15:12] <cyphermox> * completing the localechooser merge.
[15:12] <cyphermox> * UEFI Capsule support
[15:12] <cyphermox> * re-enable audit support for shadow (bug 1414817)
[15:12] <cyphermox> * update casper and system-config-kickstart for localechooser.
[15:12] <cyphermox> * debugging mark-pending-current with plars
[15:12] <cyphermox> * ubiquity update for wily and new installer bits
[15:12] <cyphermox> * merge multipath-tools (started)
[15:12] <cyphermox> (done)
[15:12] <robru> * Bileto
[15:12] <robru> - Implemented disk-backed session store so that more than one worker process function correctly
[15:12] <robru> - Added lplib support
[15:12] <robru> - Collected all 6 packages that needed to be backported to trusty in a single PPA.
[15:12] <robru> - Successful local charm deployment
[15:12] <robru> - New test suite with 93% coverage
[15:12] <robru> - improved spreadsheet data import on first run
[15:12] <robru> * cu2d
[15:12] <robru> - Improved error message when user tries to build trunk against an older ubuntu series
[15:12] <robru> - fixed bug in handling of manual source packages
[15:12] <robru> (done)
[15:13] <slangasek> caribou:
[15:13] <caribou> slangasek: didn't you get what I just pasted ?
[15:13] <caribou> Bugfix :
[15:13] <caribou> - Squid deb proxy startup race condition (Bug: 1456662)
[15:13] <slangasek> in this channel? no
[15:14] <caribou> * Completed SRU
[15:14] <caribou> - Ceph interference during kdump-tools execution (Bug: 1461429)
[15:14] <caribou> * Identified udev rule as part of the OSD startup problem
[15:14] <caribou> - Internal wiki cleanup
[15:14] <caribou> (done)
[15:14] <slangasek> cool, thanks
[15:14] <slangasek> any questions?
[15:15] <slangasek> barry: what are the snappy discussions you're in right now? python-related, or something else?
[15:15] <barry> slangasek: mostly python related
[15:15] * slangasek nods
[15:15] <barry> i.e. next step in python snaps
[15:17] <slangasek> [TOPIC] AOB
[15:17] <slangasek> you might all be interested to know that multiple architecture support in scalingstack is coming along
[15:18] <slangasek> I understand we're able to deploy ppc64el compute nodes in the stack, even if they're not allowed to talk to the network afterwards ;)
[15:18] <infinity> That bit's a problem with the openstack setup in Boston in general, not ppc.
[15:18] <infinity> FWIW.
[15:18] <slangasek> so that's exciting and hopefully we'll see more efficient use of our ppc64el hardware soon... as well as our new arm64 hardware coming online for use
[15:18] <infinity> (amd64 instances also can't talk to the world)
[15:18] * slangasek nods
[15:19] <slangasek> infinity: any new updates on that today, or is that the current state?
[15:19] <infinity> Nothing new from me.
[15:19] <slangasek> also, once we have this working on scalingstack, the next step is to do the same in canonistack so that anyone can request a power or arm64 VM when they need it \o/
[15:20] <barry> nice
[15:20] <cyphermox> yay
[15:20] <slangasek> (not in prodstack though, because none of us needs to run our production services on anything but the default architecture in prodstack :)
[15:21] <infinity> Bah. prodstack will be 100% POWER by the end of 2017.
[15:21] <slangasek> ok, but you still won't get to /request/ a POWER compute node in prodstack ;)
[15:21] <infinity> (Dear irresponsible Linux "journalists", please take the above out of context without noting the sarcasm)
[15:22] <slangasek> it's actually just going to be the result of linguistic drift
[15:22] <slangasek> prodstack -> pordstack -> powrdstack
[15:22] <infinity> porkstack seems a more likely destination.
[15:23] <slangasek> will our DCEs be responsible for basting it as it slowly rotates?
[15:23] <slangasek> anyway
[15:23] <slangasek> anything else? :)
[15:23] <cyphermox> slangasek: one turn cold side, one turn hot side. you need large pork.
[15:24] <cyphermox> nothing else for the meeting ;)
[15:24] <slangasek> #endmeeting
[15:24] <meetingology> Meeting ended Thu Jun 4 15:24:56 2015 UTC.
[15:24] <meetingology> Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2015/ubuntu-meeting.2015-06-04-15.05.moin.txt
[15:24] <slangasek> thanks, all :)
[15:25] <barry> thanks!
[15:25] <caribou> slangasek: thank!
[15:25] <jodh> thanks!
[16:59] <cprofitt> hello everyone
[16:59] <seb128> hey
[16:59] <willcooke> o/
[16:59] <mhall119> CC catchup with the desktop team and DMB starting now
[17:00] <dholbach> hey hey
[17:00] <mhall119> dholbach: pleia2 czajkowski elfy
[17:00] <mhall119> meeting time
[17:00] <dholbach> yep, pinged the other folks as well
[17:00] <pleia2> o/
[17:01] <mhall119> #startmeeting CC catchup with the desktop team and DMB
[17:01] <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Jun 4 17:01:00 2015 UTC. The chair is mhall119. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[17:01] <mhall119> #chair cprofitt dholbach pleia2
[17:01] <meetingology> Current chairs: cprofitt dholbach mhall119 pleia2
[17:01] <sabdfl> hello all
[17:01] <dholbach> #topic Catch up with the Desktop Team
[17:01] <willcooke> hi sabdfl
[17:01] <mhall119> hi willcooke and seb128, anyone else here for the desktop team?
[17:01] <dholbach> hey seb128 and willcooke - how are things?
[17:01] <willcooke> mhall119, dholbach - just us I think
[17:01] <seb128> hey there! things are good :-)
[17:02] <mhall119> right, so it's exciting times for the desktop team isn't it? :)
[17:02] <sabdfl> loving the steady stream of news
[17:02] <seb128> mhall119, it's always exciting time in some ways ;-)
[17:02] <dholbach> How was the feedback from the last release? Did you get many bug reports?
[17:03] <willcooke> Release was solid
[17:03] <willcooke> Really impressive considering the under-the-hood changes
[17:03] <cprofitt> how is the convergence going? What exciting things should we expect on 15.10 and 16.04?
[17:03] <mhall119> willcooke: you mean systemd?
[17:03] <seb128> feedback was mostly good, we got reports, as always, but not too many
[17:03] <willcooke> mhall119, ya
[17:04] <mhall119> willcooke: I didn't notice any difference, so very well done to all on that
[17:04] <willcooke> kudos to pitti and didrocks
[17:04] <willcooke> cprofitt, 15.10 will see a Snappy based Desktop Next
[17:04] <willcooke> ready for testing and playing
[17:04] <willcooke> Good news is that the image is now booting :)
[17:04] <cprofitt> The only issue I have had so far is the trash launcher opening up an extra file window. More annoying than anything critical. I would agree it was a good launch.
[17:04] <mhall119> willcooke: what is the play for making that available to people?
[17:05] <mhall119> will it be an ISO, a disk image, a VM image?
[17:06] <willcooke> mhall119, it'll be an "image" to start with but there is installer work currently being looked at by the Snappy team
[17:06] <mhall119> awesome
[17:06] <dholbach> Did you get offers of help for the brave new desktop world? Or new folks who hangout in the channel?
[17:07] <mhall119> so everyone knows, I'll be working with will's team this cycle in my capacity on the Community Team to get more information out to users who wants to try out, test, and contribute to Unity 8 and snappy desktop
[17:07] <seb128> dholbach, not really no
[17:07] <seb128> I think it's a bit too new still
[17:07] <dholbach> do you think there's enough contributors could do to help out?
[17:07] <seb128> we are likely to get more people once things get going
[17:07] <cprofitt> mhall119: just to be clear is there 'normal' desktop and 'snappy' desktop?
[17:07] <dholbach> ok..... still a bit too bleeding edge?
[17:08] <mhall119> cprofitt: there will be both yes
[17:08] <mhall119> IIRC, the "snappy" desktop will only be Mir and Unity 8
[17:08] <willcooke> correct
[17:08] <willcooke> But there are also interesting things going on in the "normal" desktop for U8 and Mir too...
[17:08] <seb128> dholbach, yeah, I guess so
[17:08] <mhall119> cprofitt: though don't get too used to calling the previous way of doing things "normal" :)
[17:08] <willcooke> You can run a U8 session on your desktop
[17:09] <mhall119> willcooke: you mean the LXC packages?
[17:09] <willcooke> and also there is work going on to allow Mir to run in a special way on top of X org,
[17:09] <willcooke> so for example
[17:09] <dholbach> seb128, let us know when you feel it's the right time to reach out to people - I know that many are waiting for the cool new thing - it'd be great if we could involve some of them :)
[17:09] <willcooke> If you're developing an app with Mir, you'll be able to test it our there on your U7/Xorg desktop with out changing sessions
[17:09] <cprofitt> +1 dholbach yes, the desktop side of the house is waiting for the next cool thing.
[17:10] <seb128> dholbach, yeah
[17:10] <cprofitt> Not many of us have devices to help with 'touch'.
[17:10] <dholbach> cool
[17:10] <mhall119> willcooke: so once people have a running instance of Mir/Unity8 from whatever way they get it running, what can they do to help make the snappy desktop better for 15.10?
[17:11] <willcooke> mhall119, besides testing and bug reports - I'd like to see folk using the new Snappy tools and starting to get a good catalogue of apps going
[17:12] <sabdfl> touch devices are rare now, but will become more widespread with win8 / win10
[17:12] <sabdfl> has there been any discussion of installing snappy apps on a deb system?
[17:13] <willcooke> some, but not loads yet. We need to sort out the confinement story, and X org makes that hard.
[17:14] <willcooke> We could get a container working for that though I expect
[17:15] <mhall119> willcooke: so far all of our snappy packaging docs have been around cloud/IoT apps, what do we have for packaging apps written with the Ubuntu SDK, and is it ready to publish on developer.u.c?
[17:16] <willcooke> mhall119, didrocks is working on that this cycle. If he hasn't already contacted you about it, he will be soon
[17:16] <mhall119> perfect, thanks
[17:16] <dholbach> nice :-)
[17:16] <willcooke> He was at the SDK sprint this week, so he's full of good ideas :)
[17:17] <dholbach> cool, we should have a chat next week :)
[17:17] <mhall119> willcooke: do you have a short list of apps targeted for default inclusion in snappy desktop? I know we brainstormed a big list in London
[17:17] <willcooke> At the moment it looks like:
[17:18] <mhall119> and is that something community folks can get involved in helping with now, or are there things blocking that work currently?
[17:18] <willcooke> Gedit, Chromium, Libreoffice, Gimp, xchat
[17:18] <willcooke> plus all the default apps from the phone
[17:18] <willcooke> for the first release they will be part of the image
[17:18] <willcooke> but we want to start moving them out in to snaps asap
[17:19] <dholbach> good timing that the core apps folks are working on convergence features now :-)
[17:19] <willcooke> so once the docs are there, and Xmir is in the archive for legacy apps - have at it
[17:19] <mhall119> dholbach: almost like it was planned that way :)
[17:19] <willcooke> dholbach, how about that! It's almost like we planned it ;)
[17:19] <willcooke> ha
[17:19] <dholbach> :)
[17:20] <mhall119> right, switching gears a bit and going back to Unity 7, I saw that Wily has started syncing with Debian and getting the new Gnome stuff, what's the workload expected there and how can people help?
[17:20] <willcooke> oh, @ default apps - plus the SDK of course
[17:20] <willcooke> mhall119, good question, so...
[17:21] <willcooke> we are working on ways to reduce our maintenance overhead every time we sync with upstream Gnome
[17:21] <willcooke> because it is a fair whack of work
[17:21] <dholbach> I saw a couple of folks helping out with merges and uploads of new versions from gnome
[17:22] <willcooke> yeah, we've got a some really excellent help there, especially from the Ubuntu Gnome team
[17:22] <dholbach> which version of gnome are we going to use this cycle? are we still blocked where some gnome modules can't be updated?
[17:22] <mhall119> I was just going to ask if they were able to help
[17:22] <mhall119> how about the MATE team?
[17:22] <willcooke> dholbach, 3.16
[17:22] <willcooke> dont think we're blocked, seb128?
[17:23] <seb128> we are not
[17:23] <mhall119> always good news to hear
[17:23] <dholbach> one thing which came up in the past was how things worked with other flavours such as xubuntu and ubuntu gnome - are you aware of any current blockers for them?
[17:23] <willcooke> mhall119, @ MATE, I think they are using a much earlier version
[17:23] <seb128> dholbach, no, I don't think so
[17:23] <willcooke> Shouldnt be any blockers for xubuntu
[17:24] <seb128> we just updated gtk to 3.16 today
[17:24] <mhall119> pleia2: ^^
[17:24] <willcooke> and we're working closely with U.Gnome
[17:24] <dholbach> cool... I'm happy that this is largely untangled <3
[17:24] <willcooke> so should be smoothish sailing there
[17:24] <willcooke> plus we've been doing this for a while now, so the guys have got a good process in place
[17:25] <dholbach> is there anything where the desktop team could need some help with?
[17:25] <sabdfl> how are we doing w.r.t. collaboration and coordination around Qt needs for KDE and U8?
[17:25] <sabdfl> pitchforks and torches aside :)
[17:26] * sabdfl updates to gtk 3.16...
[17:26] <seb128> Qt coordination has been good so far, everybody benefits from getting newer versions and understands that we need to do proper testing and ensure there are no regressions before updating
[17:26] <seb128> so there are been not many frictions so far
[17:26] <pleia2> mhall119: I don't know about any of that
[17:27] <willcooke> dholbach, there might be some interesting work to do with us on the Gtk Mir backend and the Chromium Mir backend
[17:27] <sabdfl> ok
[17:27] <willcooke> we're working on it, but it's a big and interesting problem to solve
[17:27] <sabdfl> glad to hear that
[17:27] <mhall119> seb128: I recall Kubuntu doing a lot of work to get Qt packages building and CI processes in place for Debian, are we taking advantage of that?
[17:27] <dholbach> seb128, do you know if the KDE folks also have some regression tests in the archive?
[17:28] <seb128> mhall119, the more testing is done the better
[17:28] <seb128> so yeah, them doing extra CI/testing is welcome and useful
[17:28] <seb128> dholbach, unsure how much they have
[17:28] <dholbach> ok
[17:29] <dholbach> Mirv would probably know
[17:29] <mhall119> seb128: I mean are we running the same tests after we import to our archives?
[17:29] <seb128> I guess so
[17:29] <mhall119> and contributing fixes or additional tests back to the debian setup
[17:29] <seb128> mhall119, autopkg tests shipped with the package yes
[17:31] <mhall119> alright, we're halfway through our hour, are there any other questions for the Desktop team?
[17:31] <pleia2> I'm enjoying the new weekly meeting summary emails :)
[17:31] <pleia2> so thanks for doing those now
[17:31] <dholbach> I think I'm done - thanks a lot Desktop Team! :-)
[17:31] <seb128> thanks!
[17:31] <cprofitt> yes, thank you desktop team.
[17:31] <mhall119> yes, it's great to see those on the mailing lists
[17:32] <willcooke> pleia2, welcome, and I'll cc the news team too
[17:32] <pleia2> willcooke: appreciated
[17:32] <mhall119> #topic Catch up with the Developer Membership Board
[17:32] <cyphermox> o/
[17:32] <pleia2> 06:01:30 < xnox> pleia2: heya, i will not be able to make a catchup.
[17:32] <pleia2> 06:02:40 < xnox> pleia2: w.r.t. to current developers there are no active developers that i know off, that have upload rights, yet would somehow fail dmb (... or at least fail to get +1 from) requirements for their upload rights.
[17:32] <pleia2> 06:03:04 < xnox> pleia2: there has been little applications lately, but i guess it's because we were frozen.
[17:32] <pleia2> ^^ got that earlier
[17:33] <micahg> o/
[17:33] <mhall119> bdmurray: Laney micahg ScottK stgraber anyone here for the CC catchup?
[17:33] <mhall119> hey micahg
[17:33] <dholbach> hey hey
[17:33] <micahg> hi mhall119
[17:33] <dholbach> how are yo all doing?
[17:34] <cyphermox> yep, I'm here too
[17:34] <cyphermox> dholbach: doing alright!
[17:34] <mhall119> cyphermox: ah,sorry, I knew I forgot someone
[17:34] <cyphermox> no worries.
[17:35] <mhall119> so how many developer applications have you had over the last cycle?
[17:35] <mhall119> rough estimate is fine
[17:35] <micahg> not too many
[17:35] <cyphermox> oh my. micahg, do you know of a number? there weren't any since I got on the DMB
[17:35] <micahg> less than a dozen I think
[17:35] <micahg> probably much less...
[17:36] <mhall119> micahg: and what areas of the project have those been coming from?
[17:36] <micahg> well, Xubuntu has had some interest
[17:37] <micahg> oh, hrm, that might have been before this last cycle
[17:37] <mhall119> still good to know :)
[17:37] <dholbach> I could imagine that people in smaller communities have a bit more of encouraging each other to apply for upload rights.
[17:38] <dholbach> To some I guess it's still somewhat daunting... or just don't think of applying and always ask for sponsorship of their uploads.
[17:38] <micahg> a little interest from cloud team and one for Firefox as well apparently...
[17:38] <mhall119> micahg: how about from Ubuntu Gnome or MATE flavors?
[17:38] <micahg> Ubuntu GNOME has at least one uploader from several cycles back, no one from MATE has applied yet
[17:39] <mhall119> is anyone asking people who frequently ask for and get sponsorships to apply?
[17:39] <mhall119> dholbach: do we have any metrics that will show which people we should reach out to?
[17:40] <dholbach> the developer advisory team unfortunately had to close down because everyone was busy with other things
[17:40] <cyphermox> I've recommended Martin Wimpress to apply from the MATE team, since I've sponsored a few uploads for him
[17:40] <mhall119> cyphermox: what was his reaction to that?
[17:41] <dholbach> but maybe we could generally just ask on the mailing list and see who feels like they got a lot sponsored and have a (maybe private?) chat with them...
[17:41] <cyphermox> as I recall (it was before christmas), he was interested but wanted to wait to get the flavor built with official isos, I should reach out again and possibly mentor
[17:41] <cyphermox> that's a fair idea
[17:42] <dholbach> cyphermox, I'll note it down as something we could maybe plan together :)
[17:42] <cyphermox> sure
[17:42] <dholbach> excellent :)
[17:42] <mhall119> dholbach: thanks for taking that work item
[17:43] <dholbach> I'm not quite sure... was the question about quorum/voting process sufficiently cleared?
[17:43] <mhall119> cyphermox: any other plans for this next cycle to try and boost the number of applicants?
[17:44] <dholbach> it coming up surprised me a bit since I couldn't remember any cases of governance boards running into the issue
[17:44] <seb128> not sure if that's the right meeting to raise that, but the DMB hasn't reviewed Bjoern's application for libreoffice despite several requests/emails to review that again, it's blocked for over a year and not sure what's the way out
[17:45] <micahg> the DMB has always had a different standard for votes, most probably due to the seriousness and impact of rights being granted
[17:46] <dholbach> could seb128's request be added to the DMB's agenda again?
[17:46] <cyphermox> boosting the number of applicants> it's not exactly something we've discussed so much, aside from how recent changes in the project may have affected people's motivation to apply. for instance, when you can get things in through the CI train, you don't think as much of applying to get upload rights
[17:46] <dholbach> micahg, you had a different voting process for different kinds of upload rights?
[17:46] <mhall119> seb128: IIRC, he was rejected and hasn't officially re-applied, at least that was the conclusion at our last catchup
[17:46] <mhall119> seb128: has he officially re-applied?
[17:46] <seb128> mhall119, define "officially"
[17:47] <seb128> we emailed the DMB asking for application to be re-reviewed
[17:47] <seb128> the email got ignored
[17:47] <micahg> dholbach: no, the standard was +4 instead of just a simple majority with quorum present
[17:47] <mhall119> seb128: whatever the DMB's process is for applications
[17:47] <micahg> seb128: the process is that he should reapply
[17:47] <cyphermox> seb128: I haven't seen a new application from Bjoern since I've been on the DMB, he probably should send an email to the board?
[17:47] <dholbach> micahg, ok, then I misunderstood
[17:47] <micahg> that's the easiest way for it to be reconsidered
[17:47] <seb128> micahg, he's not interested to re-apply due to the way he was treated last time
[17:47] <cyphermox> ah :(
[17:47] <seb128> so I sent an email asking for his application to be re-reviewed
[17:47] <seb128> would have been nice to consider it/respond
[17:47] <mhall119> seb128: so what would you like the DMB to do?
[17:48] <dholbach> could the DMB still go and check the current state of things for his application and move on?
[17:48] <dholbach> and give him a headsup?
[17:48] <seb128> mhall119, re-review his applications without asking him to do whoknowswhatisneeded
[17:48] <dholbach> as an act of courtesy and in the interest of moving on?
[17:49] <mhall119> seb128: I'm unclear what you're asking, and perhaps the DMB is too, areyou asking them to review his application as if he has re-applied? Or just give feedback to him on it so that he can decide to reapply or not?
[17:49] <seb128> mhall119, last time nobody told him clearly what needed to be worked on
[17:49] <seb128> or changed
[17:49] <seb128> so we asked for clarification/re-review his application
[17:49] <seb128> not sure why we just can't get those details
[17:49] <mhall119> ok, so he needs feedback so he can fix his application before re-applying, is that the case?
[17:49] <seb128> yes
[17:50] <seb128> he's not wanting to re-apply without being told what was the issue/wrong with the previous application
[17:50] <cyphermox> seb128: I'll happily look over his application and work it out with him
[17:50] <mhall119> micahg: cyphermox: can you guys try and get that feedback to bjorn in the next week or so?
[17:50] <seb128> cyphermox, thanks
[17:50] <mhall119> thanks cyphermox
[17:50] <dholbach> thanks a lot... I'm superhappy if we can figure this out
[17:50] <cyphermox> ah, I'll try to get that done today or tomorrow, otherwise I'm on vacation for two weeks
[17:50] <pleia2> thanks cyphermox
[17:51] <seb128> cyphermox, enjoy the vac ;-)
[17:51] <mhall119> seb128: if this is still blocked in a month, please let us know so we can followup on it, we don't want this to wait for the next round of catchups
[17:51] <dholbach> yes, have a good time
[17:51] <seb128> mhall119, k
[17:51] <dholbach> is there anything you feel the CC could help the DMB with?
[17:53] <dholbach> sounds like not :)
[17:53] <micahg> well, there's one issue we wanted to bring up, with the recent brouhaha with the CC and the KC, it's resulted in at least one developer no longer working on new releases (http://scarlettgatelyclark.com/2015/kubuntu-statement-from-a-not-so-important-kubuntu-developer), who happened to have been the most active uploader for vivid (http://people.ubuntuwire.org/~stefanor/ubuntu-activity/)
[17:54] <micahg> developer motivation seems to be an issue
[17:54] <dholbach> micahg, we are working with the KC on resolving this
[17:54] <mhall119> micahg: yes, we were all very sad to see that happen, we are trying to work on mending the relationship with the KC and moving forward
[17:55] <micahg> the MOTU channel is hardly active anymore, it seems most of the development focus is in the flavors
[17:55] <dholbach> micahg, that's true - but I think the decline happened much earlier than the recent developments
[17:56] <cyphermox> yes, but we do need people to look after $everything_else
[17:56] <micahg> dholbach: indeed, it's been happening for a while now
[17:56] <micahg> but I'd figure I'd highlight the recent big blow
[17:56] <dholbach> for example: we didn't have anyone organising another "learn packaging" event or somebody who said "let's fix some bugs together - here's a list of stuff"
[17:56] <mhall119> micahg: understood, thanks for bring that up
[17:57] <dholbach> and I think it's understandable if people work on flavours
[17:57] <mhall119> micahg: cyphermox: other than mending fences, do you have any recommendations or ideas for boosting motivation?
[17:57] <dholbach> where the focus is smaller and the set of problems to work on is much more targetted
[17:57] <dholbach> I think that might be a contributing factor as well
[17:58] <micahg> yes, but it also has the unfortunate side effect of siloing things sometiems
[17:58] <mhall119> that might not be a bad thing, of some people focus on their silo, as long as there is another (smaller) group working across those silos
[17:58] <micahg> mhall119: well, I know that dholbach used to do a lot of activities to help spurn developer interest back in the day, I'm not sure anyones is doing that anymore
[17:58] <cprofitt> micahg: do you think some of the steam has to do with the recent focus on clound and touch?
[17:59] <pleia2> micahg: I hope you meant spur :)
[17:59] <micahg> pleia2: yes, spur
[17:59] <mhall119> pleia2: he's *very* persuasive :)
[17:59] <pleia2> hehe
[17:59] <mhall119> micahg: can the DMB pick up some of those activities?
[18:00] <mhall119> or give it to one specific person in the DMB
[18:00] <mhall119> maybe cycling it through each month?
[18:00] <dholbach> and/or we could bring it up on the mailing list and see who would be willing to organise a small thing soon
[18:00] <cyphermox> it's something to discuss, we can add it to the agenda
[18:00] <mhall119> I know that's not really in the DMB's mandate, but if it helps motivate people it's certainly something within your wheelhouse
[18:01] <micahg> well, another problem is that the word developer in Ubuntu is overloaded, see http://developer.ubuntu.com/en/
[18:01] <pleia2> indeed, it is confusing
[18:01] <mhall119> micahg: yeah, this is true
[18:02] <mhall119> what are our options for clearing that up?
[18:02] <micahg> there's nothing there's nothing really on that side about the archive I believe which is the purview of the DMB
[18:02] <micahg> wow, :9
[18:02] <micahg> ugh
[18:02] <dholbach> I think on the pages where we introduce people to our community, we do a passable job of explaining that developing can be everything including writing an app or integrating a patch or working on CI infrastructure or anything else
[18:02] <dholbach> and if not, we should fix it :)
[18:03] <mhall119> is there a similar site for distro-development?
[18:03] <dholbach> packaging.ubuntu.com
[18:04] <dholbach> it's for documentation about ubuntu development
[18:04] <dholbach> and they're both linked from community.ubuntu.com
[18:04] <dholbach> maybe we can all (later on) have a look at the pages in question and see if we explain the different routes of development well enough
[18:05] <pleia2> sounds good
[18:05] <mhall119> dholbach: we can maybe put something up under https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/community/ as well
[18:05] <mhall119> that way it would turn up in searches on developer.u.c too
[18:05] <dholbach> ah yes
[18:05] <dholbach> I'll file a bug
[18:05] <mhall119> dholbach: can you and I work together on that?
[18:06] <dholbach> sure
[18:06] <dholbach> bug 1462049 :)
[18:07] <mhall119> alright, we're over time, any other questions for or from the DMB?
[18:07] <dholbach> I think I'm done
[18:07] <micahg> I think that's it, thanks
[18:07] <dholbach> excellent - thanks a lot everyone!
[18:07] <elfy> thanks DMB - I turned up late but managed to catch up a short while ago :)
[18:08] <mhall119> oh, one last thing, do we still do Developer Week online classes?
[18:08] <cyphermox> thanks!
[18:08] <cyphermox> mhall119: I think we should
[18:08] <dholbach> I don't think we did ubuntu app developer week or developer week in a while
[18:08] <dholbach> we could have added a couple of classes to the last UOS
[18:08] <mhall119> cyphermox: it would need some folks to step up and organize it
[18:09] <cyphermox> but as I recall seeing developer week got kind of merged in open week or whatever it was called last time
[18:09] <dholbach> especially once git fully lands on LP, it'll be good to have a session about the workflow and everything
[18:09] <mhall119> cyphermox: right, and I think we tried to run it like UOS
[18:09] <cyphermox> possibly
[18:10] <dholbach> let's chat about it when we're going to talk about the other idea :)
[18:10] <cyphermox> it's one more thing that needs reaching out on -devel@ perhaps, and see who's interested.
[18:10] <dholbach> yes
[18:10] <cyphermox> sure
[18:10] <mhall119> cool, if we can get volunteers we can make that happen again
[18:11] <mhall119> alright, thanks micahg and cyphermox
[18:11] <dholbach> yes, thanks a bunch!
[18:11] <mhall119> #topic Any other business
[18:11] <mhall119> we're already over-time, but is there any other topic anybody wanted to bring up?
[18:11] * mhall119 hopes no other team is waiting on this channel
[18:11] <dholbach> nothing on the agenda page at least
[18:13] <mhall119> alright, thanks everyone!
[18:13] <dholbach> all right my friends - I'll start into the evening activities! have a good one!
[18:13] <mhall119> #endmeeting
[18:13] <meetingology> Meeting ended Thu Jun 4 18:13:06 2015 UTC.
[18:13] <meetingology> Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2015/ubuntu-meeting.2015-06-04-17.01.moin.txt
[18:13] <micahg> thanks
[18:48] <olive> hello
[18:49] <olive> maybe I'll be late
[18:59] <sarnold> olive: looking for this? http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2015/ubuntu-meeting.2015-06-04-17.01.moin.txt
[19:00] <toddy> olive: you are looking for this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/Boards#A20:00 ?
[19:00] <toddy> that is in an hour
[19:00] <toddy> other timezone
[19:01] <Kilos> yip first meeting is in an hour with 4 applicants
[19:02] <Kilos> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/Boards#A22:00
[19:02] <sarnold> ah :D
[19:02] <Kilos> that shows them all
[19:04] <Kilos> the 20.00 timeslot will still be added to the fridge
[19:05] <cm-t> yes, in 55min !
[19:06] <cm-t> You can come say hi if you want ;) visio there, we are in ubuntu hour for the application
[19:06] <cm-t> https://meet.jit.si/UbuntuMember
[19:06] <cm-t> (work with chromium)
[19:09] <Kilos> aw i cant do live
[19:09] <Kilos> visio
[19:12] <ahoneybun> I'll be around for the 22 UTC meeting
[19:12] <Kilos> ty ahoneybun
[19:17] <ahoneybun> np
[19:22] <Kilos> cm-t please make my apologies, my mobile connection cant do visio
[19:23] <cm-t> Kilos: no problem ;)
[19:23] <cm-t> maybe you had enought connection to see my face ;)
[19:23] <Kilos> let me just get more data and ill try
[19:25] <cm-t> olive has arrived !!!
[19:25] <winael> there's visio in irc ??? Oo
[19:28] <cm-t> winael: as we are in an ubuntu hour in Paris to celebrate explain how ububuntu member work, we dicided to open a visio for those who want to see our face
[19:29] <cm-t> https://meet.jit.si/UbuntuMember
[19:29] <cm-t> you can join ;)
[19:29] <cm-t> we have beers
[19:29] <Kilos> hehe
[19:29] <cm-t> work with chromium
[19:29] <cm-t> ,)
[19:30] <cm-t> if you don't see my face winael , means you need to try with chromium, not firefox
[19:30] <cm-t> also, accept the cam/micro
[19:31] <olive> _o/
[19:32] <cm-t> \o_
[19:33] <winael> I was with my baby sorry
[19:33] <winael> I'll try
[19:35] <winael> ok I'm connected to the others french members \o/
[19:36] <olive> Camille is with us http://www.commentcamarche.net/news/5859144-ubuntu-beaucoup-plus-intuitif-que-windows
[19:47] <YoBoY> Hi
[19:48] <Kilos> hi YoBoY
[19:48] <winael> Hum meet.jit.si doesn't work with oxyde on the phone, maybe due to the apparmor restriction
[19:49] <Kilos> eats mobile data too
[19:49] <winael> I'll try later to build a webapp and add the profile mic and cam to try
[19:52] <winael> Kilos, in France we have mobile carrier that offer lot's of data (3 Go) and it could be great when you are closed to an open WiFi connexion
[19:52] <Kilos> ah , its expensive in south africa
[19:53] <elacheche_anis> ki7mt, a chage in the last minute ;)
[19:53] <cm-t> I think winael is talking about mobile.free.fr which offer a 20€ (or 15€ if you have the box) monthly fees
[19:53] <cm-t> with 4G
[19:53] <cm-t> for 20 Go
[19:53] <Kilos> nice
[19:53] <cm-t> or 3G with 3Go
[19:54] <cm-t> I think so ;)
[19:54] <winael> cm-t, but there's no 4G ubuntuphone for now :'(
[19:54] <ki7mt> elacheche_anis, Yes, apologies, was to accommodate my package sponsor attending, as he is in California
[19:54] <cm-t> winael: worng !! Meizu MX4 !
[19:54] <winael> now MX4 in europe woill arrive in few weeks.
[19:55] <winael> and the time to receive it... so no Ubuntuphone with 4G in France before July
[19:56] <elacheche_anis> ki7mt, I have no problem with that.. I need to apologize because I missed the other meeting..
[19:56] <cm-t> 3 minutes !
[19:56] <cm-t> olive: get ready
[19:56] <ki7mt> elacheche_anis, If I have a pence for every meeting I missed, well, lets just say I could give allot of dosh to charity :-)
[19:57] <elacheche_anis> :D
[19:57] <Kilos> :)
[19:58] <olive> hmmm what is happening her ? :)
[19:58] <elacheche_anis> This will be my first time chairing a meeting with the membership board, so please take it easy on me :D
[19:58] <olive> here*
[19:58] <elacheche_anis> olive, will review you're membership application in minutes dude :D
[19:58] <elacheche_anis> Bonsoir :)
[19:58] <cm-t> olive: https://meet.jit.si/UbuntuMember !
[19:58] <toddy> elacheche: \o/
[19:59] <toddy> elacheche_anis: \o/
[19:59] <Kilos> o/
[20:00] <Kilos> evening all , and hi to the new aplicants
[20:00] <cm-t> hi !
[20:00] <olive> hello my name is olive and I don't speak english. ;)
[20:00] <Kilos> lol
[20:00] <olive> my wiki page is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OlivierFraysse
[20:01] <elacheche_anis> olive, I can translate for you, let's just start
[20:01] <cm-t> i will help him, we are sit close to him (ubuntu hour, we are ~10 there )
[20:01] <elacheche_anis> Quite please :D We are starting the meeting :D
[20:01] <elacheche_anis> Un instant olive on a pas encore commencé :D
[20:01] <olive> ça fait 11 ans que je fais partie de l'asso ubuntu francophone
[20:01] <Kilos> elacheche_anis start the bot
[20:01] <quesh> :)
[20:01] <olive> ah ok
[20:02] <elacheche_anis> #startmeeting 20 UTC Membership Board Meeting
[20:02] <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Jun 4 20:02:01 2015 UTC. The chair is elacheche_anis. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
[20:02] <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick
[20:02] <elacheche_anis> Ok, who is here for the meeting?
[20:02] <idrogn> hi
[20:02] <Kilos> o/
[20:02] <olive> ok. hello :)
[20:02] <toddy> o/
[20:02] <YoBoY> o/
[20:02] <winael> o/
[20:02] * cm-t I will be after olive , then karum_ , then winael
[20:02] <popey> o/
[20:03] <olive> c'est cm-t qui m'a obligé à candidater ici
[20:03] <olive> ça sert à quoi ? ;)
[20:03] <elacheche_anis> Hello and welcome to the Membership Board meeting! The wiki page for
[20:03] <elacheche_anis> the Review Board is available here:
[20:03] <elacheche_anis> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/Boards. We will attempt to get
[20:03] <elacheche_anis> through all of the applicants that have added themselves to that list
[20:03] <elacheche_anis> before today's meeting. If we are unable to make it through the entire
[20:03] <elacheche_anis> list due to time constraints, then at the next meeting we will pick up
[20:03] <elacheche_anis> where we left off. The format for the meeting is as follows: We will go
[20:03] <elacheche_anis> through the list of applicants one by one, by date of application
[20:03] <elacheche_anis> (FIFO). Each applicant should introduce themselves (1-5 sentences) and
[20:03] <elacheche_anis> provide links to their Ubuntu Wiki page. After the introduction the
[20:03] <elacheche_anis> members of the Membership Review Board will review the pages and, if
[20:03] <olive> I'm joking
[20:03] <elacheche_anis> needed, ask the applicant further questions. During this time it is
[20:03] <elacheche_anis> encouraged for other members of the community to show their support for
[20:03] <elacheche_anis> the applicant. Do not be alarmed if the members of the Membership Review
[20:03] <elacheche_anis> Board are quiet during this time; they are most likely reading
[20:03] <elacheche_anis> wiki/launchpad/forum/other pages and deciding how they are going to
[20:03] <elacheche_anis> vote.
[20:03] <elacheche_anis> Let's start
[20:04] <elacheche_anis> #topic olive
[20:04] <olive> Ok. so my name is olive
[20:04] <elacheche_anis> olive, introduce yourself please, and give as a link for wiki and LP
[20:05] <olive> I'm french, I don't speak english
[20:05] <olive> my wiki is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OlivierFraysse
[20:05] <olive> and I love you
[20:05] <Kilos> ty
[20:05] <elacheche_anis> #voters hggdh wxl toddy belkinsa elacheche_anis popey PabloRubianes mapreri Kilos
[20:05] <meetingology> Warning: Nick not in channel: belkinsa
[20:05] <meetingology> Current voters: Kilos PabloRubianes belkinsa elacheche_anis hggdh mapreri popey toddy wxl
[20:05] <olive> (I know some words in english. yeah)
[20:05] <olive> my LP : https://launchpad.net/people/olivier.fraysse
[20:06] <elacheche_anis> olive, présent toi en Français, je vais essayer de traduire :)
[20:06] * cm-t olive have also a french wiki, with more detailled actions https://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/utilisateurs/olive
[20:06] <olive> bah heu, je suis je crois le plus ancien des membres de l'asso ubuntu francophone
[20:06] <toddy> nice event: https://2015.rmll.info/?lang=fr
[20:06] <olive> et donc un des plus anciens de la communauté que j'ai vu naitre
[20:07] <cm-t> he say: he think he is the most ancient member of our loco right now
[20:07] <Kilos> lol
[20:07] <cm-t> (ubuntu-fr)
[20:07] <Kilos> age?
[20:07] <cm-t> ancient not in age, ancient as he was in the first there
[20:07] <Kilos> aha
[20:07] <olive> j'ai aidé l'asso à être présent dans des événements de promotion du Libre et d'Ubuntu, essentiellement à Paris (France)
[20:07] <cm-t> (sorry my english is not perfect too ;) )
[20:07] <winael> he saw us born
[20:07] <Kilos> np
[20:07] <olive> :)
[20:08] <winael> he helped the Loco to be present in FLOSS events
[20:08] <olive> et j'ai mangé des croissants avec Mark Shuttleworth un jour
[20:08] <cm-t> he says: I've help ubuntu-fr to be on event of freesoftware advocating and ubuntu mostly in Paris
[20:08] <winael> essentialy based in Paris
[20:08] <olive> enfin, devant lui. (lui il buvait de l'eau)
[20:08] <elacheche_anis> OK than, anyone have questions for olive
[20:09] <toddy> yes, there are many events on your wikipage you have supported. nice.
[20:09] <popey> Some good testimonials there
[20:09] <cm-t> he said: we took a croissant and pain aux chocolat with sabdfl in 2014
[20:09] <Kilos> olive can you keep up the good work till you are ancient in age too?
[20:09] <cm-t> popey: he is the historic member of ubuntu-fr
[20:10] <elacheche_anis> OK.. Merci olive et les gars pour la traduction :D On passe aux questions :)
[20:10] <cm-t> Kilos: I didnt mean he is ancient in age !! but in the team, sorry for the wrong wording
[20:10] <winael> he is not ancient in age :) but he help to create the LoCo
[20:10] <Kilos> nono thats cool, i asked will he keep up the good work till he is old too
[20:11] <elacheche_anis> olive, Kilos veux savoir si tu pense que tu restras active lorsque tu sera plus agé (comme lui) x)
[20:11] <toddy> olive: do you have a blog on ths planet? http://planet.ubuntu-fr.org/
[20:11] <olive> Yes I do
[20:11] <olive> I'm 32 years old
[20:11] <Kilos> good then 30 more to go
[20:11] <Kilos> keep it up
[20:12] <olive> no I don't
[20:12] <wxl> ok what did i miss?
[20:12] <elacheche_anis> ochosi, Kilos dit qu'il te reste encore 30 :D
[20:12] <olive> but I write articles in ubuntu-party.org
[20:12] <elacheche_anis> #votesrequired 4
[20:12] <meetingology> votes now need 4 to be passed
[20:12] <popey> +1
[20:12] <Kilos> +1
[20:12] <popey> uh
[20:12] <popey> is the bot working?
[20:12] <toddy> ah, cool, olive
[20:13] <elacheche_anis> toddy,
[20:13] <popey> oh, you haevn't called a vote
[20:13] <toddy> +1 good work
[20:13] <cm-t> he also post on twitter with @ubuntuparty
[20:13] <elacheche_anis> popey, we didn't start the vote yet, am just configuring the bot
[20:13] <elacheche_anis> OK.. Anyone here to support olive?
[20:13] <cm-t> i do !!
[20:13] <elacheche_anis> Anyo,e else have questions or we vote?
[20:13] <winael> Yeah I'm I
[20:13] <olive> I do !!
[20:13] <olive> :p
[20:13] <idrogn> I do
[20:14] <quesh> i do
[20:14] <elacheche_anis> Nice support squad :)
[20:14] <toddy> lets vote :)
[20:14] <YoBoY> I do !
[20:14] <cm-t> mafia-fr
[20:14] <wxl> vote!
[20:14] <YoBoY> in the place :D
[20:14] <elacheche_anis> #startvote For olive Membership?
[20:14] * cwayne1 is around if we need more voters btw
[20:14] <elacheche_anis> +1
[20:14] <Kilos> +1
[20:14] <popey> that didnt start the vote did it?
[20:14] <wxl> no
[20:14] <elacheche_anis> don't think so :/
[20:14] <Kilos> ai!
[20:15] <olive> lol
[20:15] <Kilos> ty cwayne
[20:15] <elacheche_anis> #vote For olive Membership?
[20:15] <meetingology> Please vote on: For olive Membership?
[20:15] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname)
[20:15] <elacheche_anis> Here we go :D
[20:15] <elacheche_anis> +1
[20:15] <meetingology> +1 received from elacheche_anis
[20:15] <toddy> :D
[20:15] <Kilos> +1
[20:15] <meetingology> +1 received from Kilos
[20:15] <toddy> +1 good work olive. thanks for the good Ubuntu Support
[20:15] <meetingology> +1 good work olive. thanks for the good Ubuntu Support received from toddy
[20:15] <popey> +1
[20:15] <meetingology> +1 received from popey
[20:15] <wxl> +1 for acting as a member without being one!
[20:15] <meetingology> +1 for acting as a member without being one! received from wxl
[20:15] <elacheche_anis> Anyone else?
[20:16] <elacheche_anis> And there is +2 from belkinsa & PabloRubianes (ML)
[20:16] <elacheche_anis> #endvote
[20:16] <meetingology> Voting ended on: For olive Membership?
[20:16] <meetingology> Votes for:5 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
[20:16] <meetingology> Motion carried
[20:16] <elacheche_anis> Congrats olive
[20:16] <popey> \o/
[20:16] <cm-t> \o/
[20:16] <quesh> :)
[20:16] <YoBoY> Good work olive, FINALY After sooooooo long time :D
[20:16] <winael> congrats olive \o/
[20:16] <olive> thanks !
[20:16] <Kilos> olive welcome to the team
[20:17] <idrogn> :)
[20:17] <cm-t> Bien joué !
[20:17] <olive> See you at the next ubuntu party ;)
[20:17] <quesh> \o/
[20:17] <cm-t> yeah, everybody is welcome at our french ubucon !
[20:17] <YoBoY> +42
[20:17] <elacheche_anis> Will discuss that later :D
[20:17] <elacheche_anis> cm-t, is next
[20:17] <wxl> congrats olive!!!
[20:18] <elacheche_anis> #topic cm-t
[20:18] <winael> \o/ cm-t \o_
[20:18] <cm-t> hi
[20:18] <olive> hihi
[20:18] <elacheche_anis> cm-t, introduce yourself, and paste LP & wiki link please :)
[20:18] <toddy> hi cm-t
[20:19] <cm-t> Hi, My name is Rudy also knowd as cm-t, Im 27 and live in Paris. I'm with ubuntu since 2008 !
[20:19] <cm-t> this is my wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/~cm-t
[20:19] <cm-t> and my lp is https://launchpad.net/~cm-t
[20:19] <elacheche_anis> Any questions for cm-t ?
[20:19] <elacheche_anis> Meanwhile let the guys checkout the links :)
[20:20] <wxl> holy contributions batman O_O
[20:21] <cm-t> Ive opened my page for years I think, it help to gather informations, even small one
[20:21] <toddy> you have a good google+ page: https://plus.google.com/+cmtarudy/posts
[20:21] <wxl> i love how involved you are in marketing ubuntu, yet also working hard on solid contributions to improving it
[20:21] <cm-t> toddy: thank !
[20:21] <cm-t> wxl: thank !
[20:22] <wxl> as a loco council member, i'm excited to hear more about ubuntu-party
[20:22] <cm-t> yes, I think we lack of online presence, so I started my g+ for that
[20:22] <wxl> (meaningm, in the future, at least) :)
[20:22] <cm-t> As I said in my wiki, I should open my blog
[20:23] <toddy> cm-t: how many school projects do you have made?
[20:23] <cm-t> toddy: All my school project I did were made on ubuntu, even for .NET and all
[20:24] <elacheche_anis> Il veut savoir combien de projets?
[20:24] <toddy> cm-t: and was it a success?
[20:24] <cm-t> but there is only 1 project that was for ubuntu, the oneconf in ubiquity
[20:24] <cm-t> toddy: yeah !
[20:24] <cm-t> toddy: I forgot to mention, I was in the ubuntu club I created at my school
[20:25] <cm-t> 5 people went on ubuntu in my classroom
[20:25] <toddy> cool
[20:25] <cm-t> I hope they are still using it !
[20:25] <elacheche_anis> That's nice :)
[20:25] <elacheche_anis> Any other questions?? People here to support cm-t ?
[20:25] <idrogn> I do
[20:25] <winael> I do
[20:26] <quesh> i do
[20:26] <olive> I do !
[20:26] <elacheche_anis> All The ubuntu-fr squad is here tonight :D
[20:26] <toddy> :D http://spreadubuntu.org/fr/material/unusual/ubuntu-robots nice work
[20:26] <YoBoY> I support cm-t
[20:26] <olive> as a ubuntu member, I really do.
[20:26] <cm-t> toddy: thank again !
[20:26] <quesh> no, only a few ones
[20:26] <elacheche_anis> Time to vote then..
[20:26] <elacheche_anis> #votesrequired 4
[20:26] <meetingology> votes now need 4 to be passed
[20:26] <cyphermox> fwiw, I'm here to cheer for cm-t as well :)
[20:26] <cm-t> we are only 10 there
[20:26] <cm-t> indeed we are more than 10 ;)
[20:27] <elacheche_anis> #vote For cm-t Membership?
[20:27] <meetingology> Please vote on: For cm-t Membership?
[20:27] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname)
[20:27] <cm-t> hey cyphermox !
[20:27] <cm-t> nice to meet you there :D
[20:27] <elacheche_anis> +1
[20:27] <meetingology> +1 received from elacheche_anis
[20:27] <Kilos> +1
[20:27] <meetingology> +1 received from Kilos
[20:27] <toddy> +1 good work. that is very nice to see: http://spreadubuntu.org/fr/material/unusual/ubuntu-robots <- I have bookmarked it.
[20:27] <meetingology> +1 good work. that is very nice to see: http://spreadubuntu.org/fr/material/unusual/ubuntu-robots <- I have bookmarked it. received from toddy
[20:28] <elacheche_anis> popey, wxl !
[20:28] <popey> Easy...
[20:28] <popey> +1
[20:28] <meetingology> +1 received from popey
[20:28] <popey> :)
[20:29] <elacheche_anis> Let's don't forget about PabloRubianes & belkinsa votes → +2 :D
[20:29] <elacheche_anis> No more votes?
[20:29] <Kilos> wxl ?
[20:29] <wxl> +1
[20:29] <meetingology> +1 received from wxl
[20:29] <wxl> sorry
[20:29] <wxl> lunch
[20:29] <elacheche_anis> #endvote
[20:29] <meetingology> Voting ended on: For cm-t Membership?
[20:29] <meetingology> Votes for:5 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
[20:29] <meetingology> Motion carried
[20:30] <cm-t> bon apétit wxl
[20:30] <elacheche_anis> Welcome aboard cm-t :)
[20:30] <cm-t> \o/
[20:30] <cm-t> thank you all !!
[20:30] <YoBoY> Congrats cm-t :D
[20:30] <idrogn> :)
[20:30] <winael> sahtein wxl
[20:30] <quesh> \o/
[20:30] <popey> \o/
[20:30] <olive> woot
[20:30] <Kilos> congrats cm-t welcome
[20:30] <toddy> Congrats cm-t!
[20:30] <wxl> congrats you deserve it cm-t!
[20:30] <winael> \o/ cm-t \o-
[20:30] <cm-t> drinking my beer then ! https://meet.jit.si/UbuntuMember
[20:30] <elacheche_anis> #voters marcoceppi
[20:30] <meetingology> Current voters: Kilos PabloRubianes belkinsa elacheche_anis hggdh mapreri marcoceppi popey toddy wxl
[20:31] <elacheche_anis> The next one is karum_
[20:31] <elacheche_anis> Are you here?
[20:31] <marcoceppi> o/
[20:31] <karum_> yes
[20:31] <karum_> hi
[20:31] <elacheche_anis> #topic karum
[20:31] <karum_> my english is so bad so i'll speak french
[20:32] <elacheche_anis> Welcome karum_ , please introduce yourself and paste a link for LP & Wiki, I'll translate
[20:32] <cm-t> I ll traduct!
[20:32] <karum_> https://launchpad.net/~thomas-joossen-gmail
[20:32] <cm-t> translate…
[20:32] <karum_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/~karum
[20:33] <karum_> je m'appelle thomasj'ai48 ans,
[20:33] <karum_> j'utilise ubuntu depuis 2006, mais linux depuis 18 ans
[20:33] <cm-t> Hi, my name is thomas and I'm 48 !
[20:34] <cm-t> he says: I use ubuntu since 2006 but Linux for 18years
[20:34] <Kilos> nice
[20:35] <elacheche_anis> Any questions for karum_ ?
[20:35] <olive> Are you developper ?
[20:35] <quesh> :)
[20:35] <toddy> karum_: what do you have made on the Ubuntu Partys? what activities?
[20:35] <mapreri> umh
[20:35] <karum_> non, je ne suis pas developeur,
[20:35] <cm-t> no, i'm not a developer
[20:35] <mapreri> does every ubuntu member have voting rights by default?
[20:36] <elfy> mapreri: no - just the board
[20:36] <popey> well, depends what for
[20:36] <elacheche_anis> mapreri, no only the membership board can vote
[20:36] <popey> every ubuntu member gets to vote for members on the community council
[20:36] <mapreri> elfy: then i'm wondering why i ended up in the list of #voters above :)
[20:36] <Kilos> hi elfy
[20:36] <karum_> je me suis ocuupé de la sonorisation des conférences
[20:36] <popey> hah
[20:36] <popey> elacheche_anis: ^
[20:36] <cm-t> he says: I manage the sound for conferences
[20:37] <cm-t> during ubuntu parties
[20:37] <karum_> et depuis 2 ans je m'occupe de la restauration des bénévoles
[20:37] <elacheche_anis> myfault.. :(
[20:37] <cm-t> he says: and since 2 years I manage the meals for our volounteers
[20:37] <wxl> karum_: outside of helping to support ubuntu-fr events, what other contributions have you made/plan to do?
[20:37] <cm-t> ( 2 years = 4 ubuntu party)
[20:37] <cm-t> ( 1 ubuntu party = ~100 volounteers)
[20:37] <mapreri> elacheche_anis: the fact is: i can't see where you told meetingology to add me, that is
[20:37] <mapreri> anyway, /me vanishes again o/
[20:38] <elacheche_anis> #voters all
[20:38] <meetingology> Everyone can now vote
[20:38] <toddy> karum_: which distribution do you use before Ubuntu?
[20:38] <olive> karum is a very good cooker !
[20:38] <karum_> je parle d'ubuntu dans mon entourage, au travaille
[20:38] <elacheche_anis> #voters Kilos PabloRubianes belkinsa elacheche_anis hggdh marcoceppi popey toddy wxl
[20:38] <meetingology> Warning: Nick not in channel: belkinsa
[20:38] <meetingology> Current voters: Kilos PabloRubianes belkinsa elacheche_anis hggdh marcoceppi popey toddy wxl
[20:38] <olive> (for the ubuntu party)
[20:38] <mapreri> :)
[20:38] * elacheche_anis didn't add mapreri :D meetingology is bugging
[20:38] <karum_> toddy: j'utilisais mandriva
[20:38] <cm-t> he says : I talk about ubuntu to the people I meant in my life, at work…
[20:39] <cm-t> he says: I sued to run Mandriva before ubuntu
[20:39] <Kilos> word of mouth is where i learned about ubuntu
[20:39] <elacheche_anis> So.. Any other questions for karum_ ?
[20:39] * cm-t I add: he saved at least 1 webcafé by joinning the team
[20:40] <elacheche_anis> #votesrequired 4
[20:40] <meetingology> votes now need 4 to be passed
[20:40] <wxl> karum_: outside of helping to support ubuntu-fr events, what other contributions have you made/plan to do?
[20:40] <karum_> je participe aux autres évênements publics d'ubuntu: festivals par exemple
[20:41] <elacheche_anis> #chair elacheche_anis
[20:41] <meetingology> Current chairs: elacheche_anis
[20:41] <cm-t> he says: I join other event of ubuntu-fr like the webcafé in music festival
[20:41] <cm-t> he says (typing)
[20:41] <karum_> j'ai fait quelques propositions de traduction sur launchpad
[20:42] <cm-t> he says: I've made some translate on lauchpad
[20:42] <cm-t> launchpad
[20:42] <wxl> translations are super important
[20:42] <Kilos> very
[20:42] <idrogn> I may add that we (as french Loco council) want him to join our board
[20:42] <wxl> i think that's one of the best thing you can do as a non-english-speaking contributor
[20:43] <Kilos> i agree, we will need fench translations for africa soon
[20:43] <Kilos> french
[20:43] <YoBoY> Translator teams always need help, so many packages descriptions to do yet… :D
[20:44] <elacheche_anis> Nice work karum_
[20:44] <toddy> YoBoY: Yes, I know
[20:44] <wxl> k well i for one am satisified and ready to vote
[20:44] <popey> same
[20:44] <Kilos> same
[20:44] <elacheche_anis> Good
[20:44] <elacheche_anis> #vote For karum_ Membership?
[20:44] <meetingology> Please vote on: For karum_ Membership?
[20:44] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname)
[20:44] <popey> +1
[20:44] <meetingology> +1 received from popey
[20:44] <popey> Excellent!
[20:44] <elacheche_anis> +1
[20:44] <meetingology> +1 received from elacheche_anis
[20:44] <wxl> +1 keep up the good work
[20:44] <meetingology> +1 keep up the good work received from wxl
[20:44] <Kilos> +1keep it up
[20:44] <meetingology> +1keep it up received from Kilos
[20:44] <cm-t> NB; idrogn is talking as our president
[20:44] <popey> Really great to see all these long standing contributions
[20:44] <popey> \o/
[20:44] <toddy> +1 next time, when I am in french I hope I am on an ubuntu party and you cook something :)
[20:44] <meetingology> +1 next time, when I am in french I hope I am on an ubuntu party and you cook something :) received from toddy
[20:44] <cm-t> \o/
[20:44] <cm-t> Bienvenue !!!
[20:45] <wxl> hahah i concur toddy :)
[20:45] <elacheche_anis> #endvote
[20:45] <meetingology> Voting ended on: For karum_ Membership?
[20:45] <meetingology> Votes for:5 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
[20:45] <meetingology> Motion carried
[20:45] <elacheche_anis> Welcome aboard karum_ :)
[20:45] <karum_> Hi hi hi
[20:45] <YoBoY> Congrats karum_ :D
[20:45] <winael> \o/ karum_ \o<
[20:45] <Kilos> welcome to the team karum_
[20:45] <idrogn> :)
[20:45] <wxl> congrats karum_ !
[20:45] <elacheche_anis> winael is next, you're here?
[20:45] <quesh> \o/
[20:45] <winael> Yeah I'm
[20:45] <karum_> thanks a lot
[20:45] <olive> woooot !
[20:46] <elacheche_anis> ping winael
[20:46] <winael> I'm here
[20:46] <winael> don't you see me ?
[20:46] <Kilos> yes
[20:46] <marcoceppi> winael: we see you!
[20:46] <elacheche_anis> Now I do :F
[20:46] <elacheche_anis> :F
[20:46] <elacheche_anis> :D
[20:46] <wxl> holy ubuntu uniform winael :)
[20:46] <popey> hah
[20:46] <wxl> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Winael?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=image20150422_132607648.png
[20:46] <elacheche_anis> #topic winael
[20:47] <winael> yeah it was a normal working day
[20:47] <elacheche_anis> winael, introduce yourself please, and paste a link of your LP & Wiki page :)
[20:47] <winael> I'm almost always dressed like that
[20:47] <wxl> what about like this? https://launchpadlibrarian.net/101499863/photo_64x64.jpg
[20:47] <wxl> hahahah
[20:48] <winael> So I'm Winael, a 33 years old of French LoCo
[20:48] <winael> I join the team in 2008 contributing on the Ubuntu Party
[20:49] <winael> Since then I still on the Ubuntu Party team, to promote Ubutu to visitor, demo Unity (I kind of the expert) and demystify smart scope services
[20:49] <wxl> ahhh unity expert, nice
[20:49] <winael> I interview Mark Shuttleworth in 2009 for Oxyradio during the UP
[20:49] <wxl> you've done things with juju and the phone, too, no, winael ?
[20:50] <winael> this is my LP and wiki page : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Winael
[20:50] <winael> https://launchpad.net/~vinzjobard
[20:50] <winael> https://plus.google.com/+VincentJOBARD/posts
[20:51] <winael> I transcript and translate the video what is Juju and what is Maas
[20:51] <wxl> very nice!
[20:51] <elacheche_anis> Awesome :)
[20:51] <Kilos> well done
[20:51] <elacheche_anis> Any questions?
[20:51] <winael> I promote Ubuntu on other events like Solutions Linux, Openworld Forum
[20:51] <popey> How are you not already a mamber winael ‽
[20:51] <winael> no popey
[20:52] <elfy> popey: I was convinced he was
[20:52] <popey> Madness :)
[20:52] <winael> I begin my application last year but finished it this week
[20:52] <winael> I'm a lucky Ubuntuphone Insider as well
[20:52] <Kilos> rahter late than never
[20:52] <marcoceppi> better now than never, too ;)
[20:52] <popey> Yes indeed.
[20:52] <winael> I had the chance to visit Canonical office with a gret guide in february
[20:52] <wxl> popey: that seems to be the problem with a lot of the major players in ubuntu-fr which is why we have such a rash of them today
[20:53] <wxl> yep
[20:53] <winael> And now I'm trying to promote Snappy
[20:53] <wxl> winael: on IoT devices?
[20:54] <winael> I made a presentation during the Ubuntu Party and I'll do an other during an hacker showroom Passageenseine
[20:54] <elacheche_anis> Nice work winael :)
[20:54] <wxl> agree
[20:54] <winael> I'm trying to present the convergence part, that it will link the phone the desktop the cloud and the IoT
[20:55] <elacheche_anis> Any other questions? Or we can vote?
[20:55] <wxl> winael: very cool! i have snappy on my raspberry pi 2 :)
[20:55] <wxl> ready to vote
[20:55] <Kilos> vote
[20:55] <elacheche_anis> #votesrequired 4
[20:55] <meetingology> votes now need 4 to be passed
[20:55] <elacheche_anis> #vote For winael Membership?
[20:55] <meetingology> Please vote on: For winael Membership?
[20:55] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname)
[20:55] <winael> I have to develop some skills to animate workshop on snappy
[20:55] <marcoceppi> +1
[20:55] <meetingology> +1 received from marcoceppi
[20:55] <wxl> +1 fantastic work! keep it up!!!!
[20:55] <meetingology> +1 fantastic work! keep it up!!!! received from wxl
[20:55] <toddy> +1 nice work and sympathetic photos
[20:55] <meetingology> +1 nice work and sympathetic photos received from toddy
[20:55] <elacheche_anis> +1
[20:55] <meetingology> +1 received from elacheche_anis
[20:55] <Kilos> +1 keep it up
[20:55] <meetingology> +1 keep it up received from Kilos
[20:56] <popey> +1
[20:56] <meetingology> +1 received from popey
[20:56] <winael> and I try to prmote the professional part of Ubuntu (cloud technology like Ubuntu Openstack, Juju, LXC/LXD)
[20:56] <elacheche_anis> #endvote
[20:56] <meetingology> Voting ended on: For winael Membership?
[20:56] <meetingology> Votes for:6 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
[20:56] <meetingology> Motion carried
[20:56] <elacheche_anis> Congrats winael :)
[20:56] <cm-t> bien joué !
[20:56] <idrogn> :)
[20:56] <wxl> congrats winael and ubuntu-fr team!!!!!!!!
[20:56] <winael> Thx :)
[20:56] <marcoceppi> \o/
[20:56] <Kilos> congrats winael and welcome
[20:56] <quesh> \o/
[20:56] <elacheche_anis> ki7mt, is the last one for this time slot board :D You still here dude?
[20:56] <ki7mt> I am indeed
[20:57] <YoBoY> congrats winael :D
[20:57] <Kilos> nice to see a team pulling together like this
[20:57] <popey> \o/
[20:57] <elacheche_anis> #topic ki7mt
[20:57] <elacheche_anis> So, ki7mt welcome, please introduce yourself, and share your lp & wiki links please :)
[20:57] <ki7mt> Hi, my name is Greg, 48 in yrs past, 18 in mind, body and spirit ;-) WIKI: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KI7MT, LP: https://launchpad.net/~ki7mt
[20:57] <idrogn> we are very happy together at karum home
[20:57] <marcoceppi> ki7mt: arent' we all ;)
[20:58] <idrogn> thanks for your time
[20:58] <kamal> o/ hi, I have an endorsement for ki7mt
[20:58] <wxl> hey ki7mt is on our team (lubuntu)
[20:58] <ki7mt> Yes
[20:58] <popey> thanks kamal
[20:58] <cyphermox> wow, strong applicants today :)
[20:58] <kamal> I'm Kamal Mostafa, a member of the the Ubuntu and Debian Hams (amateur radio)
[20:58] <kamal> groups and of the Canonical kernel team.
[20:58] <elacheche_anis> So, any questions for ki7mt ?
[20:59] <kamal> I have worked with Greg Beam (ki7mt) for a couple of years on various ham radio
[20:59] <kamal> software issues, and have reviewed (and will sponsor) several ham radio
[20:59] <kamal> packages that he publishes as Launchpad PPA's and will soon be maintaining in
[20:59] <kamal> Debian.
[20:59] <kamal> His work is high quality, and more importantly, he is friendly and easy to work
[20:59] <kamal> with. His efforts triaging the ham radio software bugs in Launchpad have also
[20:59] <kamal> been much appreciated.
[20:59] <toddy> you use blueprints in launchpad: https://launchpad.net/~ki7mt/+specs?role=assignee
[20:59] <kamal> I am happy to offer my endorsement of Greg (ki7mt) for Ubuntu Membership. :-)
[20:59] <kamal> ..
[20:59] <elfy> I totally forgot to do a wiki testimonial as I'd promised - so have hung about here to say I am here for him
[20:59] <wxl> yay for amateur radio develepment!!!
[21:00] <elacheche_anis> 2 endorsements :) that's nice :)
[21:00] <toddy> a lot of karma: https://launchpad.net/~ki7mt/+karma
[21:00] <ki7mt> thank elfy I see allot of you all in the various IRC rooms.
[21:00] <wxl> a wide variety of contributions
[21:00] <wxl> generalists are good :)
[21:01] <elacheche_anis> Too many endorsements :) No questions?
[21:01] <toddy> ki7mt: ah, you want to be a Regional Board Member. than we are colleague in the future. :)
[21:02] <ki7mt> I hope so, that's the goal :-)
[21:03] <elacheche_anis> Any thing else?
[21:03] <elacheche_anis> #votesrequired 4
[21:03] <meetingology> votes now need 4 to be passed
[21:03] <elacheche_anis> I see that everyone are excited about ki7mt application, shall we vote?
[21:04] <Kilos> yes
[21:04] <wxl> ready to vote
[21:04] <elacheche_anis> #vote For ki7mt Membership?
[21:04] <meetingology> Please vote on: For ki7mt Membership?
[21:04] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname)
[21:04] <wxl> +1
[21:04] <meetingology> +1 received from wxl
[21:04] <elacheche_anis> +1 Keep the good work all Ubuntu-fr :)
[21:04] <meetingology> +1 Keep the good work all Ubuntu-fr :) received from elacheche_anis
[21:04] <Kilos> +1 wonderful job, keep going
[21:04] <meetingology> +1 wonderful job, keep going received from Kilos
[21:05] <kamal> +1
[21:05] <toddy> +1 very much contributions
[21:05] <meetingology> +1 very much contributions received from toddy
[21:06] <elacheche_anis> we wait for popey voting :)
[21:06] <Kilos> lol
[21:06] <popey> +1
[21:06] <meetingology> +1 received from popey
[21:06] <elacheche_anis> #endvote
[21:06] <meetingology> Voting ended on: For ki7mt Membership?
[21:06] <meetingology> Votes for:5 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
[21:06] <meetingology> Motion carried
[21:06] <popey> (sorry, was pinged in another channel)
[21:06] <popey> \o/
[21:06] <elacheche_anis> Congrats ki7mt :)
[21:06] <ki7mt> Thank you all for the support over the years, this means allot to me personally.
[21:06] <wxl> congrats!
[21:06] <elacheche_anis> #endmeeting
[21:06] <meetingology> Meeting ended Thu Jun 4 21:06:49 2015 UTC.
[21:06] <meetingology> Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2015/ubuntu-meeting.2015-06-04-20.02.moin.txt
[21:06] <elfy> congrats ki7mt - sorry for forgetting the wiki
[21:06] <kamal> congrats everyone, and welcome!
[21:07] <wxl> good meeting all
[21:07] <Kilos> greta job ki7mt welcome to the team
[21:07] <wxl> see you in an hour XD
[21:07] <Kilos> great
[21:07] <elacheche_anis> Congrats @All :)
[21:07] <wxl> DS-McGuire: you aren't ready now are you??
[21:07] <Kilos> thanks for attending everyone
[21:07] <elfy> night all - great job :)
[21:07] <Kilos> night elfy
[21:08] <Kilos> DS-McGuire ping
[21:08] <Kilos> na well be back later
[21:08] <Kilos> ha
[21:09] <daniel_> Sorry my internet went down
[21:10] <Kilos> np
[21:10] <Kilos> i think the guys wanted to know if you are ready or do you want the next timeslot reather
[21:10] <Kilos> rather
[21:10] <daniel__> I am DS-McGuire, I don't know why my name is wrong
[21:11] <Kilos> because you reconnecting
[21:11] <Kilos> bad connection somewhere
[21:11] <wxl> daniel_: you could try changing your nick
[21:11] <DS-McGuire> I guess.
[21:11] <DS-McGuire> fixed it
[21:11] <wxl> there you go
[21:12] <DS-McGuire> \o/
[21:12] <wxl> i was thinking we might get you in on the tail end of the 2000 meeting. would you prefer to wait, DS-McGuire ?
[21:13] <DS-McGuire> I don't mind. I am ready now if everyone else is
[21:13] <Kilos> elacheche_anis carry on
[21:13] * Kilos ready
[21:13] <wxl> who's still around?
[21:14] <wxl> do we have a quorum ?
[21:14] <wxl> can't we un-end the last meeting? XD
[21:14] <Kilos> elacheche is worrying about mails and stuff, give him 5
[21:14] <elacheche_anis> wxl, the next guy is for the next meeting!
[21:14] <elacheche_anis> about 45 minutes later :)
[21:14] <wxl> ko
[21:14] <wxl> i'm got code to compile anyways :)
[21:15] <Kilos> whats wrong with now if we are all ready
[21:15] <wxl> thanks for including the news team on that email elacheche_anis
[21:16] <elacheche_anis> wxl, we should include them to announce that for everybody :)
[21:16] <wxl> elacheche_anis: agree. that's what i meant :)
[21:18] * wxl moves to our regular challnnel while we wait
[21:19] <Kilos> DS-McGuire relax for 40 mins, get some coffee
[21:19] <DS-McGuire> Kilos, Will do :)
[21:19] <ki7mt> wxl, where is the lubuntu meeting being held ?
[21:20] <Kilos> pity we missed you before closing
[21:20] <wxl> ki7mt: we haven't had meetings in a long time. sometime when i get a chance to breathe more, i'll get them started again.
[21:21] <wxl> ki7mt: feel free to send me a reminder!
[21:21] * ahoneybun will send a reminder to everyone he can
[21:22] <ki7mt> Ok, will do. There's a few things another project Im helping out with has input on. Will save that for the next one.
[21:27] <elacheche_anis> ping YoBoY,
[21:28] <elacheche_anis> is karum still online in other channel?
[21:36] <cm-t> we are all here together
[21:36] <cm-t> in his garden
[21:36] <cm-t> elacheche_anis: ↑
[21:37] <cm-t> he closed his laptop now, but he is close to me
[21:37] <wxl> cm-t: he needs to sign the CoC before we can make him a member. that's one of the required steps of the application process. we don't need to go through everything all over again, but his membership on launchpad is waiting on that.
[21:38] <YoBoY> pong elacheche_anis
[21:38] <Kilos> cm-t https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/NewMember#Code_of_Conduct
[21:38] <cm-t> true,
[21:39] <elacheche_anis> cm-t, there is a problem :)
[21:39] <cm-t> we help him sign it right now !
[21:39] <YoBoY> OK de are explaining hum how to do that
[21:39] <Kilos> cool
[21:39] <elacheche_anis> tell him to check his inbox right now :)
[21:39] <cm-t> if it is ok
[21:39] <cm-t> good !
[21:39] <elacheche_anis> cm-t, you should help him dude :) That what family members do :D
[21:40] <Kilos> lol
[21:41] <ahoneybun> T-Minus 20mn
[21:46] <elacheche_anis> m-15
[21:46] * ahoneybun looks at elacheche_anis with a face
[21:47] <Kilos> lol
[21:47] * elacheche_anis seeing that face o_O
[21:50] <ahoneybun> T-Minus 10mins
[21:51] <cm-t> elacheche_anis: yes, we are working on it ;)
[21:51] <cm-t> lucky him we decided to make an IRL event !
[21:51] <Kilos> yeah
[21:51] <elacheche_anis> Yep cm-t :) so lucky :D
[21:54] <cm-t> steps too hard after beers and it's late (00h00) here, installed the great assistant, now on step 4/8
[21:54] <cm-t> 3/8
[21:55] <ahoneybun> T-Minus 5mins
[21:55] <Kilos> haha cmt
[21:55] <elacheche_anis> Take your time cm-t when you finish just let him answer back that email or ping someone from the board in irc :)
[21:55] <Kilos> cm-t
[21:55] <Kilos> midnight here too
[21:56] <elacheche_anis> DS-McGuire, ready? :D
[21:56] <DS-McGuire> elacheche, Yep!
[21:56] <elacheche_anis> Good :) m-4 :)
[21:56] <ahoneybun> DS-McGuire, why are you not in #ubuntu-doc?
[21:57] <ahoneybun> I'm pretty such it will be a 100% +1 hoping DS-McGuire signed the CoC lol
[21:57] <ahoneybun> *sure
[21:57] <DS-McGuire> ahoneybun, I don't consider myself a part of that team anymore. Haven't for a long time.
[21:58] <ahoneybun> oh ok
[21:58] <Kilos> DS-McGuire lp link please
[21:58] <DS-McGuire> I still listening and read anything that comes through
[21:58] <ahoneybun> T-Minus 2mins
[21:58] <DS-McGuire> https://launchpad.net/~daniel-mcguire351
[21:58] <Kilos> i read slow
[21:58] <Kilos> ty
[21:58] <ahoneybun> wiki please DS-McGuire as well
[21:58] <DS-McGuire> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/daniel-mcguire351
[21:58] <elacheche_anis> ahoneybun, :D we didn't start yet! :p
[21:58] <Kilos> yes coc signed
[21:59] <DS-McGuire> signed a long time ago :D
[21:59] <ahoneybun> elacheche_anis, getting ready
[21:59] <ahoneybun> :D
[21:59] <elacheche_anis> :D
[21:59] <Kilos> just checking
[21:59] <DS-McGuire> np :)
[21:59] <Kilos> i read your wiki page the day you applied
[21:59] <DS-McGuire> Awesome :)
[22:00] <ahoneybun> TIME!
[22:00] <elacheche_anis> It's almost time to start the 22UTC meeting, who's here from the Memebership board?
[22:00] <ahoneybun> o/
[22:00] * Kilos here
[22:00] <elacheche_anis> o/
[22:00] <toddy> o/
[22:00] <cwayne> o/
[22:01] <elacheche_anis> popey, wxl still AFK
[22:01] <wxl> oops
[22:01] <wxl> was in the wrong channel
[22:01] <Kilos> lol
[22:01] <elacheche_anis> cwayne, you're not a board member dude :)
[22:01] <cwayne> elacheche_anis: ... yes i am
[22:02] <Kilos> from the cc?
[22:02] <cwayne> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-membership-board/+members
[22:02] * cm-t # karum just signed the CoC \o/
[22:02] <elacheche_anis> cwayne, nice to meet you :D from CC?
[22:03] <Kilos> well done karum
[22:03] <hggdh> \o
[22:03] <Kilos> big job that
[22:03] <cwayne> elacheche_anis: nope, just membership board :) https://launchpad.net/~cwayne18 if you're curious
[22:03] <hggdh> or, even better \ô
[22:03] <cm-t> thant to the assistant great tool !
[22:04] <elacheche_anis> cwayne, so sorry dude :) I just seen that :D
[22:04] <cwayne> elacheche_anis: no worries :)
[22:04] <Kilos> elacheche_anis GO
[22:04] <elacheche_anis> Shall we start?
[22:04] <ahoneybun> yep
[22:04] <elacheche_anis> #startmeeting 22 UTC Membership Board Meeting
[22:04] <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Jun 4 22:04:42 2015 UTC. The chair is elacheche_anis. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[22:04] <elacheche_anis> Hello and welcome to the Membership Board meeting! The wiki page for
[22:04] <elacheche_anis> the Review Board is available here:
[22:04] <elacheche_anis> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/Boards. We will attempt to get
[22:04] <elacheche_anis> through all of the applicants that have added themselves to that list
[22:04] <elacheche_anis> before today's meeting. If we are unable to make it through the entire
[22:04] <elacheche_anis> list due to time constraints, then at the next meeting we will pick up
[22:04] <elacheche_anis> where we left off. The format for the meeting is as follows: We will go
[22:05] <elacheche_anis> through the list of applicants one by one, by date of application
[22:05] <elacheche_anis> (FIFO). Each applicant should introduce themselves (1-5 sentences) and
[22:05] <elacheche_anis> provide links to their Ubuntu Wiki page. After the introduction the
[22:05] <elacheche_anis> members of the Membership Review Board will review the pages and, if
[22:05] <elacheche_anis> needed, ask the applicant further questions. During this time it is
[22:05] <elacheche_anis> encouraged for other members of the community to show their support for
[22:05] <elacheche_anis> the applicant. Do not be alarmed if the members of the Membership Review
[22:05] <elacheche_anis> Board are quiet during this time; they are most likely reading
[22:05] <elacheche_anis> wiki/launchpad/forum/other pages and deciding how they are going to
[22:05] <elacheche_anis> vote
[22:05] <elacheche_anis> #topic DS-McGuire
[22:05] <elacheche_anis> DS-McGuire, please introduce yourself to the board, and share a link to your LP and wiki
[22:05] <DS-McGuire> My name is Daniel McGuire, I am 20 years old and I study software engineering at Cardiff Metropolitan University in Wales. I have tried to become a major player in the Ubuntu community over past last year and I see myself in the future using the skills I learn both in and out of Uni to help develop the Ubuntu operating system. My main focuses are design and development of software, at the moment since I am not the best with
[22:05] <DS-McGuire> programming, I am sticking mostly to design until I can get better skills.
[22:05] <DS-McGuire> Launchpad: https://launchpad.net/~daniel-mcguire351 Wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/daniel-mcguire351
[22:07] * ahoneybun is 22
[22:07] <elacheche_anis> Any questions for DS-McGuire? Any supporters here?
[22:07] <ahoneybun> o/
[22:07] * cm-t I have to d/c because métro will close, But I will just say DS-McGuire is very friendly guy, I just opened a group on telegram with the topic of ubuntu/apps and he already launched a topic for a design icon
[22:08] <DS-McGuire> :)
[22:08] <elacheche_anis> Good cm-t :) ahoneybun if you have a question go ahead and ask it :)
[22:08] <ahoneybun> supporter
[22:08] <toddy> DS-McGuire: Do you has contact (real-life) to your loco group in wales?
[22:08] <cm-t> gn8 guys thank you
[22:08] <ahoneybun> DS-McGuire, do you see yourself helping other devs with UI and icon designs?
[22:08] <Kilos> TY cm-t
[22:08] <Kilos> eish caps lock
[22:09] <elacheche_anis> #voters Kilos elacheche_anis toddy ahoneybun wxl cwayne popey
[22:09] <meetingology> Current voters: Kilos ahoneybun cwayne elacheche_anis popey toddy wxl
[22:09] <cwayne> DS-McGuire: do you anticipate becoming more active in the development side as well? (as you get better skills)
[22:09] <DS-McGuire> toddy, I have yet to meet with the loco group in my area, this is because of traveling to and from the place they meet since I cannot afford it. I am planning on going to the next Ubuntu-fr meeting if I can afford that.
[22:10] <cwayne> and if so, what type of development? specifically apps? or other parts of the OS too?
[22:10] <DS-McGuire> ahoneybun, Yes. That is one area I want to be a major player in.
[22:10] <Kilos> DS-McGuire is there a loco in wales?
[22:11] <DS-McGuire> cwayne, Yes, albeit I find the community very intimidating because of its professionalism however I do see myself contributing directly to Ubuntu/Unity 8 in the next few years.
[22:11] <Kilos> ah
[22:11] <hggdh> elacheche_anis: can I be a voter as well?
[22:12] <DS-McGuire> apps are focus for me since I do plan to make a living from them and the Ubuntu 8 operating system gives me an amazing platform to develop on.
[22:12] <cwayne> hm, that sounds like something we need to fix, we dont want anyone to ever be intimidated to contribute
[22:12] <elacheche_anis> #voters hggdh
[22:12] <meetingology> Current voters: Kilos ahoneybun cwayne elacheche_anis hggdh popey toddy wxl
[22:12] <hggdh> \o/
[22:12] <elacheche_anis> my fault hggdh :)
[22:12] <wxl> indeed cwayne
[22:13] <wxl> DS-McGuire: you find the ubuntu community intimidating?
[22:13] <DS-McGuire> cwayne, Oh not in a bad way. And not by anyone being an a**. It's just looks it when you're a novice hahah!
[22:13] <Kilos> yes we can speak to them, everyone should feel welcome in their own loco as well
[22:13] <hggdh> DS-McGuire: heh. It helps to keep in mind that we all started as novices
[22:14] <DS-McGuire> hggdh, I understand that. :)
[22:14] <wxl> i have found the ubuntu community totally welcoming. even the most "professional" folks are just as willing to help as the most "amateur"
[22:14] <cwayne> yeah, well I'm glad its not people being jerks at least :)
[22:14] <Kilos> yeah
[22:14] <wxl> esp. in dev
[22:14] <ahoneybun> agreed
[22:14] <DS-McGuire> It's not the fact people are not welcoming, it's quite the opposite, I assure you. However I don't want to look like I don't know what I am doing haha!
[22:14] <cwayne> DS-McGuire: I totally get what you're saying (I felt the same at first), but that's the beauty of this community, everyone's there to help, not criticize :)
[22:14] <wxl> exactly
[22:14] <DS-McGuire> cwayne, Definitely :)
[22:15] <wxl> not knowing things is an opportunity to get to know
[22:15] <cwayne> DS-McGuire: ha, I still don't know what Im doing :P
[22:15] <wxl> heh
[22:15] <wxl> ditto!
[22:15] <elacheche_anis> #votesrequired 4
[22:15] <meetingology> votes now need 4 to be passed
[22:15] <DS-McGuire> cwayne, I have heard that from a number of people./
[22:15] <Kilos> ditto too
[22:15] <elacheche_anis> I confirm that DS-McGuire :)
[22:16] <DS-McGuire> haha!
[22:16] <elacheche_anis> So.. Is there any other questions to DS-McGuire or we can vote :D
[22:16] <wxl> vote
[22:16] <hggdh> I am OK
[22:16] <toddy> vote
[22:16] <elacheche_anis> #vote for DS-McGuire Membership!
[22:16] <meetingology> Please vote on: for DS-McGuire Membership!
[22:16] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname)
[22:16] <ahoneybun> +1
[22:16] <meetingology> +1 received from ahoneybun
[22:16] <toddy> +1 nice to meet you DS-McGuire – I think you make a great job
[22:16] <meetingology> +1 nice to meet you DS-McGuire – I think you make a great job received from toddy
[22:16] <elacheche_anis> +1
[22:16] <meetingology> +1 received from elacheche_anis
[22:16] <hggdh> +1 thank you, and keep calm ;-)
[22:16] <meetingology> +1 thank you, and keep calm ;-) received from hggdh
[22:17] <cwayne> +1
[22:17] <meetingology> +1 received from cwayne
[22:17] <Kilos> +1 have faith in your abilities and everything else falls into place automatically
[22:17] <meetingology> +1 have faith in your abilities and everything else falls into place automatically received from Kilos
[22:17] <wxl> +1 reach out to the community— they need you as much as you need them!
[22:17] <meetingology> +1 reach out to the community— they need you as much as you need them! received from wxl
[22:17] <elacheche_anis> #endvote
[22:17] <meetingology> Voting ended on: for DS-McGuire Membership!
[22:17] <meetingology> Votes for:7 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
[22:17] <meetingology> Motion carried
[22:17] <wxl> yay congrats DS-McGuire
[22:17] <hggdh> DS-McGuire: welcome in!
[22:17] <elacheche_anis> Congratulations DS-McGuire :)
[22:17] <DS-McGuire> \o/ Thank you everyone!!
[22:17] <Kilos> DS-McGuire congrats and welcome
[22:17] <wxl> i look forward to further lubuntu contributions DS-McGuire :)
[22:17] <ahoneybun> welcome to the fold DS-McGuire
[22:17] <elacheche_anis> #endmeeting
[22:17] <meetingology> Meeting ended Thu Jun 4 22:17:44 2015 UTC.
[22:17] <meetingology> Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2015/ubuntu-meeting.2015-06-04-22.04.moin.txt
[22:17] <toddy> Congrats DS-McGuire
[22:17] * ahoneybun needs to leave now
[22:18] <Kilos> ty ahoneybun
[22:18] <DS-McGuire> Thanks a lot :D
[22:18] <elacheche_anis> As we don't have more condidate for tonight the meeting is over :) I'll finish the rest in minutes :)
[22:18] <Kilos> DS-McGuire keep up the good work lad
[22:18] <ahoneybun> DS-McGuire, I'll be talking to you about design later
[22:18] <ahoneybun> np Kilos
[22:18] <DS-McGuire> ahoneybun, I look forward to it! :D
[22:18] <DS-McGuire> Kilos, Thank you :)
[22:18] <Kilos> nice to have you on board
[22:21] <cwayne> welcome aboard :)
[22:21] * cwayne goes afk
[22:22] <Kilos> night all
[22:22] <DS-McGuire> night!
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2015-06-04-#ubuntu-tn
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[08:40] <elacheche> Wahid-TN, o/
[08:47] <Wahid-TN> elacheche, o/
[09:25] <elacheche> Dro__, o/
[09:27] <Dro__> sbeh ennour elacheche
[09:29] <Dro__> ça va bro?
[09:34] <elacheche> hmd Dro__ :) You? Wahid-TN wine 7ayik?
[09:38] <Dro__> hmd :)
[21:45] <elacheche_anis> Dro___, wanna assist to a membership meeting?
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2015-06-04-#ubuntu-gnome
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[10:29] <darkxst> Noskcaj, ricotz gtk 3.16 will land this week
[10:30] <darkxst> Ive done merges for mutter and gnome-shell, but wont have time for the rest of core packages
[12:41] <LinDol> hi all :)
[13:19] <Rodrigo5244> hey
[13:32] <LinDol> hi Rodrigo5244 :)
[13:36] <Rodrigo5244> How is it going?
[13:41] <LinDol> I am pretty tired and stressfull. :-/
[13:41] <LinDol> how about you?
[13:42] <Rodrigo5244> I am sorry to hear that. I am actually happy today.
[13:42] <Rodrigo5244> Solved a bug this morning :)
[13:48] <LinDol> That is OK. Wow, really?
[13:48] <LinDol> what was your bug? :)
[13:49] <Rodrigo5244> It was on my code. A javascript function to check if an image was successfully loaded. I was using the error event, but that was not working for some servers on Epiphany, so I change it to naturalWidth property of the img tag.
[13:50] <LinDol> wow, it was good :)
[13:51] <LinDol> so, did you have github?
[13:51] <LinDol> If you are ok, I want to see some code in your github :)
[13:52] <Rodrigo5244> I do have an account on github, because my last job had code on it. But I have never upload one of my personal projects there.
[13:52] <Rodrigo5244> I am planning to.
[13:52] <Rodrigo5244> I will make a new website for myself, and put some of my projects there.
[13:52] <Rodrigo5244> My current website I made when I was in high school I think.
[13:53] <LinDol> Wow. :)
[13:54] <Rodrigo5244> I am thinking, If I can run Skyrim on virtualbox I am going to get rid of my Windows partition. What do you think?
[13:54] <LinDol> It was surprise :), when did you make a web site first?
[13:54] <Rodrigo5244> I don't know. When I was a kid I made a website using that geosite tools from Yahoo.
[13:56] <LinDol> Unfortunately, I don't know yet about Skyrim.
[13:56] <Rodrigo5244> It is a game. It is supposed to use the GPU a lot.
[13:57] <LinDol> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Elder_Scrolls_V:_Skyrim is this?
[13:57] <Rodrigo5244> Yes
[13:58] <LinDol> Oh.. I think.
[13:59] <LinDol> I will not use Virtualbox to play Skyrim.
[13:59] <LinDol> haha..
[14:01] <LinDol> because I think, if i am playing game to enjoy, i want optimized environment for playing game.
[14:01] <LinDol> sorry, i still learnning english :)
[14:01] <Rodrigo5244> But I don't want to boot Windows bug system that takes forever.
[14:01] <LinDol> I am still learnning english. so i want you to understand this mean.
[14:01] <Rodrigo5244> Me too, lol.
[14:02] <LinDol> haha
[14:02] <LinDol> Thank you.
[14:02] <LinDol> so but,
[14:02] <LinDol> I think you should to choose. :)
[14:03] <Rodrigo5244> It is complicated to me. The headphones on Windows only work if I boot Linux first. It is so annoying.
[14:03] <LinDol> more powerfull! or I don't want to reboot!!
[14:04] <Rodrigo5244> I don't know how slow skyrim will be on Virtualbox, if is playable I will choose don't want to reboot.
[14:04] <LinDol> Yeha. I think
[14:05] <Rodrigo5244> Where are you from?
[14:05] <LinDol> Even if sorry to late, i think you can try to play it on Virtualbox.
[14:05] <LinDol> oh..
[14:06] <LinDol> I am living in Korea (South of Korea)
[14:06] <LinDol> How about you?
[14:06] <Rodrigo5244> Brazil.
[14:06] <Rodrigo5244> Are you a programmer?
[14:06] <LinDol> Wow,
[14:06] <LinDol> Yes, you too?
[14:07] <Rodrigo5244> Trying to be.
[14:07] <LinDol> It was good. :)
[14:07] <Rodrigo5244> I finish collage, but I feel I lack practical knowledge. So I am developing my JavaScript skills before I get a new job.
[14:07] <Rodrigo5244> What language do you use?
[14:08] <LinDol> um,
[14:08] <LinDol> just language?
[14:08] <Rodrigo5244> What do you mean?
[14:08] <LinDol> I like java language. :)
[14:09] <Rodrigo5244> One time I made a game in Java. Some people didn't play it because they didn't want to download the VM. So annoying.
[14:10] <Rodrigo5244> If the VM came pre-installed that would be very nice.
[14:10] <LinDol> Yes it is.
[14:10] <Rodrigo5244> Not on Windows I think.
[14:11] <Rodrigo5244> I head that they have a center in South Korea to help people addicted to games. Is that true?
[14:12] <LinDol> Yes it is ture. but People doesn't like it.
[14:12] <LinDol> really doesn't like it.
[14:13] <Rodrigo5244> Why not?
[14:13] <LinDol> Because, I think game is not drug.
[14:14] <Rodrigo5244> Humm, but I also heard that there are people who is truly addicted to games.
[14:14] <LinDol> but some politician said that "Game is drug!"
[14:15] <LinDol> yeha.
[14:15] <LinDol> I heard that,
[14:17] <LinDol> sorry, I can't talk to you about this to speck english for detail.
[14:17] <LinDol> T_T
[14:17] <Rodrigo5244> You mean you don't know how to talk about that in English?
[14:20] <LinDol> My mean, I want to talk to you about that, but I can't talk to you for more information, because I am still learnning english.
[14:22] <Rodrigo5244> I see.
[14:22] <Rodrigo5244> Do you use Java on your work?
[14:23] <LinDol> Yes I do. :)
[14:24] <LinDol> but I want to study GTK3 programming in the future :)
[14:29] <LinDol> Have a good night :)
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2015-06-04-#ubuntu-server
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[01:26] <Radar> We had a little over an hour of downtime this morning. What happened was that MySQL was killed due to out of memory, and then apparmor denied MySQL from starting up again. How can we investigate why this issue occurred?
[01:26] <Radar> Particularly why apparmor blocked MySQL
[01:28] <sarnold> Radar: dmesg | grep DEN ought to show you the denials; you can add the right privileges to allow them to the /etc/apparmor.d/usr.sbin.mysqld file -- and if they aren't specific to your site, you could file a bug so we include them for everyone else
[01:28] <Radar> sarnold: This hasn't been an issue before today. From what I can see in the usr.sbin.mysqld file, the permissions are correct.
[01:28] <Radar> I can show you the file if you'd like.
[01:28] <sarnold> sure
[01:29] <Radar> https://gist.github.com/radar/991f13af7859cdb69646
[01:30] <Radar> the /var/lib/mysql path is symlinked to /srv/mysql
[01:32] <Radar> I don't know what the "k" means here: https://gist.github.com/radar/991f13af7859cdb69646#file-mysqld-L33
[01:32] <Radar> Looks like that it has been configured for access to those directories.
[01:33] <sarnold> Radar: aha, probably that symlink...
[01:33] <Radar> It's been symlinked for ages.
[01:34] <Radar> We have an identically configured server where this is not an issue.
[01:34] <sarnold> Radar: add a rule like "alias /var/lib/mysql/ -> /srv/mysql/" to /etc/apparmor.d/tunables/alias
[01:35] <Radar> argh, our other server doesn't use a symlink!
[01:35] <jjohansen> Radar, sarnold: if you suspect any of apparmor's trusted helpers might be involved then greping /var/log/syslog is better, as they are logging there
[01:35] <jjohansen> eg. dbus
[01:35] <Radar> My apologies, I thought they were configured the same.
[01:35] <sarnold> jjohansen: gah thanks for the reminder. I'm still not used to this new world. :)
[01:36] <sarnold> Radar: ahhhh :)
[01:36] <sarnold> Radar: once you add the alias rule, you'll want to run apparmor_parser --replace /etc/apparmor.d/usr.sbin.mysqld
[01:37] <Radar> Thanks for the tip sarnold :)
[01:37] <sarnold> probably /etc/init.d/apparmor reload would do the same job...
[01:37] <sarnold> Radar: the 'k' means the process can issue fctnl locks on the file; some days I wonder if it's worth actually mediating those, but we do. :)
[01:47] <patdk-lap> I do
[08:07] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:55] <solo1> how can i configure mdadm in a server raid1 ... it was with only 1 hd and i want to get raid1 using it ... i ve no idea how can i set ... 'due i found a lot of tutorial saying i must decide it when both are void or blank during server installation .... pls help
[08:57] <lordievader> solo1: https://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-set-up-software-raid1-on-a-running-system-incl-grub2-configuration-debian-squeeze-p2
[08:59] <solo1> to lordievader: tnx dude
[09:13] <solo1> to lordievader i got only 2 hdd and the guide speaks about 3
[09:17] <lordievader> solo1: Change it to your situation.
[10:03] <histo> solo1: how are you going to use 1 hd and do raid1
[10:05] <lordievader> histo: "i got only 2 hdd" Seems to me like he has two.
[10:05] <histo> lordievader: didn't get that far. His first comment was stated weird.
[11:44] <IronDev> Guten Tag
[12:36] <smoser> strikov, did you make any headway on bug 1371634
[12:37] <strikov> smoser: i was able to create kvm instance with scsi multipath
[12:37] <smoser> oh nice.
[12:37] <strikov> smoser: playing with it now
[12:37] <strikov> smoser: funny thing is that even qemu-emulated multipath contains spaces in disk name
[12:37] <smoser> that is funny.
[12:38] <smoser> maybe user_friendly_names is just what we need ?
[12:38] <strikov> smoser: i suspect that issue might be in a different place
[12:38] <smoser> i reproduced the issue using kpartx on a regular device
[12:38] <smoser> see the bug
[12:38] <strikov> smoser: yes, that's the first thought I have, thats quite strange that it is not default then
[12:38] <smoser> i think that maybe kpartx to do that needs to replace ' ' with '\x20' or what not. maaybe the kernel juts expectst that and kpartx isnt doing it.
[12:39] <strikov> smoser: i think that (a) kpartx indeed has a bug but (b) upstream didn't fix it because you usually don't get such an input
[12:39] <strikov> smoser: example
[12:39] <smoser> maybe
[12:39] <strikov> smoser: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11564916/
[12:39] <strikov> smoser: tool which gets disk serial has a way to eliminate spaces
[12:40] <strikov> smoser: why not use it this way to generate udev name w/o spaces?
[12:40] <smoser> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11564919/
[12:40] <smoser> thta is from powerKVM
[12:41] <smoser> on a similar system, and yeah, they don thave the funny names there.
[12:41] <smoser> cmdline there has: $ cat /proc/cmdline
[12:41] <smoser> root=UUID=6ef1254c-50ac-421a-bb4a-25619189b327 ro console=tty0 console=hvc0 crashkernel=1024M rd.lvm.lv=ibmpkvm_vg_data/ibmpkvm_lv_data rd.lvm.lv=ibmpkvm_vg_log/ibmpkvm_lv_log rd.lvm.lv=ibmpkvm_vg_root/ibmpkvm_lv_root rd.lvm.lv=ibmpkvm_vg_swap/ibmpkvm_lv_swap
[12:41] <smoser> so thats where naems come from
[12:41] <strikov> smoser: you don't see names because kpartx failed I think
[12:42] <smoser> you think it failed on powerKVM ?
[12:43] <smoser> strikov, see : /usr/share/doc/multipath-tools/examples/multipath.conf.synthetic:#
[12:43] <smoser> getuid_callout "/lib/udev/scsi_id --whitelisted --device=/dev/%n"
[12:44] <strikov> smoser: okay, so i reproed inside vm: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11564961/
[12:45] <strikov> smoser: yeah, i just can't understand why default config doesn't work if disk names *usually* contain spaces
[12:45] <strikov> smoser: i thought that we met some corner case
[12:46] <strikov> smoser: but that's not the case if vm disks looks the same
[12:46] <strikov> smoser: i'm trying to understand where dmsetup get this name
[12:51] <smoser> strikov, i think it gets name from rules/60-persistent-storage.rules
[12:51] <smoser> i think
[12:51] <smoser> hm... well, at least that calls scsi_id
[12:52] <strikov> smoser: i think that dmsetup doesn't use scsi_id and that's the problem
[12:53] <smoser> strikov maybe you're right. /lib/udev/rules.d/55-dm.rules
[12:53] <smoser> uses SYMLINK+=mapper/..... DM_NAME
[12:54] <strikov> smoser: interesting: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11565129/
[12:54] <smoser> hm. i dont know
[12:55] <smoser> right.
[12:55] <smoser> thats why my hack worked
[12:55] <smoser> (when i replaced spaces with the \x20
[12:55] <smoser> not sure what is creating either of those though
[12:57] <strikov> smoser: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11565218/
[12:57] <strikov> that's how udev gets the name, and name seems to be ok
[12:59] <smoser> hm.
[12:59] <strikov> smoser: alternative route (see udev rule) returns incorrect name though: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11565314/
[12:59] <smoser> so something is creating both
[12:59] <smoser> /dev/mapper/1IBM IPR-0 5EC2A900000000A0
[12:59] <smoser> and
[13:00] <smoser> /dev/mapper/1IBM\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20IPR-0\x20\x20\x205EC2A900000000A0
[13:00] <strikov> smoser: I think that path with \x20 comes from udev which gets it from kernel
[13:00] <strikov> smoser: but i have no idea who creates first path with spaces
[13:01] <smoser> ah. and the second is the symlink to ../dm-X . and the first is an actual block device (with same major minor as ../dm-X)
[13:03] <smoser> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/foundations-bugs/2015-April/233983.html
[13:03] <smoser> awesome.
[13:03] <smoser> someone solved this for us 3 weeks ago
[13:03] <smoser> :)
[13:03] <smoser> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/multipath-tools/+bug/1432062
[13:07] <strikov> smoser: well, that's awesome
[13:09] <strikov> smoser: let me try it inside a vm
[13:11] <strikov> smoser: problem here is that we need to backport it everywhere i think
[13:12] <strikov> smoser: or generate config with user_friendly_names if that really helps
[13:13] <smoser> strikov, right. we would probably want to backport to trusty.
[13:14] <smoser> but the bug reporter says that the install (d-i probably) installs 'user_friendly_names'
[13:14] <smoser> so that would seem also acceptable
[13:14] <smoser> but. would like to generally fix this also.
[13:15] <strikov> smoser: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11565504/
[13:15] <strikov> smoser: user friendly fixes the issue
[13:15] <strikov> smoser: maybe we can generate this trivial .conf in curtin?
[13:16] <strikov> smoser: with user friendly it uses mpathN instead of disk name which fixes the issue
[13:32] <smoser> strikov, sweet. i'm testing user friendly names rightnow, and will update that bug.
[13:32] <smoser> reboot in progress.
[13:38] <smoser> strikov, worked!
[13:38] <smoser> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1371634/comments/17
[13:40] <smoser> strikov, ... but this doesnt give you warm fuzzies
[13:40] <smoser> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11565939/
[13:41] <smoser> smb, ^
[13:42] <smoser> so.. installed a system with curtin
[13:42] <smoser> followed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1371634/comments/17
[13:42] <smoser> reboot
[13:42] <smoser> scary messages about ext4 in mdesg
[13:44] <strikov> smoser: did it boot, i mean do you have something working?
[13:44] <smoser> yeah. it worked
[13:44] <smoser> but then scary ext4 messages :)
[13:45] <smoser> those scary messages appear on both systems that i tried it on
[13:45] <strikov> smoser: do they block everything or you can continue doing something in bash
[13:46] <strikov> smoser: trying to repro in the vm; my multipath disk is not used as / so i could miss it
[13:48] <smoser> https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42723
[13:49] <smoser> strikov, it all "just works" with those steps
[13:49] <smoser> (other than the fact that you get filesystem errors :)
[13:50] <smoser> strikov, can you write somewhere how you fixed ?
[13:50] <smoser> er... how you made kvm do multipath
[13:51] <strikov> smoser: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11566036/
[13:52] <strikov> smoser: (1) that's important to put same serial numbers for both disks and (2) scsi-virtio controller needs to be added
[13:52] <strikov> smoser: that's basically it
[13:53] <bitfury> good morning all
[13:54] <strikov> smoser: i used cloud image as mail disk and userdata was generated with cloud-localds
[13:55] <smoser> strikov, would be nice to make 'launch' do that :)
[13:55] <smoser> do/support
[13:58] <strikov> smoser: yeah, i just didn't look into xkvm stuff so not sure if it's simple to do it with it or not
[14:00] <strikov> smoser: i just run bonnie++ fs benchmark on mounted multipath partition, don't see any ext4 issues
[14:02] <smoser> strikov, well i fyou grab the kvm command that should give you most of what you need to know.
[14:02] <strikov> smoser: hm, do you think that installing multipath-tools-boot (not multipath-tools) is enough for curtin
[14:02] <smoser> -tools-boot depends on -tools
[14:02] <smoser> so yeah
[14:03] <smoser> so with xkvm... if you added '--multipath-disk=disk1.img' and it did that magic, that'd be cool.
[14:05] <smoser> strikov, but maybe you shouldnt spend time on that.
[14:05] <smoser> but work on the other curtin things. thats probably better idea
[14:06] <strikov> smoser: well, we need implement multipath in curtin :) i'm working on mp now
[14:07] <rbasak_> Hi
[14:08] <rbasak_> I'm on 3G.
[14:08] <rbasak_> Sorry for the lack of notice. I wasn't expecting four electricians to turn up in my kitchen all at once.
[14:08] <rbasak_> They've had to turn off the entire house power because it seems the kitchen didn't have a supply of its own and was just leeching from other bits of the house. So I have no working sockets right now :-(
[14:09] <rbasak_> Oh, wrong channel.
[14:09] <rbasak_> gaughen: ^^
[14:09] <gaughen> :-)
[14:16] <smoser> strikov, thats true.
[14:16] <smoser> multipath in curtin and a way to test it via 'launch' would be nice.
[14:17] <strikov> smoser: do you see any simple way to try modified curtin with your machine w/ ,p?
[14:17] <strikov> *w/ mp
[14:19] <strikov> smoser: are you sure that 'sudo update-initramfs -u -k all' is really needed?
[14:20] <strikov> smoser: i suspect that multpath-tools-boot should do that internally
[14:20] <smoser> strikov, but i write the file after i install the packkage
[14:22] <smoser> that was just to make sure our version of the file was installed.
[14:23] <strikov> smoser: oh, i see your point, i forgot that multipath.conf needs to be included into initramfs
[14:59] <smoser> strikov, its possible that system has some bad disk i think
[15:01] <smoser> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11567312/
[15:03] <strikov> smoser: yeah, i suspect that's not multipath-related
[15:03] <strikov> smoser: we may want to ask #hs about it
[15:29] <strikov> smoser: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~strikov/curtin/multipath-2/revision/210
[15:44] <squisher> rbasak, heh, good luck with the electricians! Ping on the bcache pkg-ing... I think a glance should be good enough, then we should just upload it and if there are issues people will hopefully complain :D
[15:57] <Voyage> How much downtime is expected if I have hosting setup right but I transfer my domain registrar from one registrar to another
[15:58] <squisher> Voyage, totally OT, but you shouldn't expect any downtime if things go right
[15:59] <Voyage> OT?
[16:12] <filipoi> Hi there, I have a problem with setting up nginx in lxc. It doesnt want to serve any files. After fresh install when I check my domain in a browser I got default page – ok. But when trying to change root directory I've got blank page with "ERR_CONNECTION_REFUSED" message. I thougt that I didnt properly fowarded port 80 to lxc – but no I could run python simple HTTP server on port 80 and everything
[16:12] <filipoi> works correctly. Also I thought that maybe it has something to do with permission on my root dir – but I think no – I change nginx user to root user and nothing changed – still I cannot serve directory that I pointed in my server block.
[16:12] <filipoi> Any ideas?
[16:13] <filipoi> I'm a begginer so I probably made some stupid mistake but I dont know where...
[16:22] <strikov> filipoi: do you see anything suspicious in nginx's logs?
[16:24] <filipoi> strikov: in error.log Ive got only one line
[16:24] <filipoi> [alert] 10198#0: unlink() "/run/nginx.pid" failed (2: No such file or directory)
[16:24] <teward> there's your problem
[16:24] <teward> nginx can't find the pid :P
[16:24] <filipoi> aha
[16:24] <teward> (which is bad)
[16:24] <filipoi> I guess ;)
[16:25] <filipoi> how can I fix it?
[16:25] <teward> filipoi: "Connection Refused" is the system's way of saying that you either got a "REJECT" packet or the connection attempt was blocked because no service was listening.
[16:25] <teward> run `pidof nginx` first to see if it's still 'running'
[16:26] <teward> if it is, `sudo killall nginx` then try and reload the nginx service
[16:26] <filipoi> yaeh the output is " 11032 11031 11030 11029 11028 "
[16:26] <teward> filipoi: start by terminating the existing nginx processes, first with `sudo service nginx stop`
[16:26] <teward> if thta fails kill them with the prior command
[16:26] <teward> `service nginx start` then
[16:27] <teward> filipoi: stupid question but you DID refresh the configuration right, when you edited the config?
[16:27] <filipoi> tewardtewar: I think so
[16:27] <filipoi> I mean I restarted nginx
[16:27] <teward> well killing nginx and reopening it will refresh the config
[16:27] <filipoi> and reloaded
[16:27] <teward> filipoi: i think you restarted it but it failed to load given the 'failed to find pid' issue and "Connection Refused"
[16:28] <filipoi> oh I see
[16:28] <filipoi> but why it failed?
[16:28] <teward> no idea, it'd require a lot more debugging than I cna throw at it right now
[16:28] <teward> also not sure why you're running it in a container, it sounds like it's a hassle
[16:29] <filipoi> heh somebody told me that it is a good way ;)
[16:29] <filipoi> anyway it is just for learning pupropses
[16:29] <filipoi> I dont have any real website to serve
[16:30] <squisher> filipoi, if you're learning, then it's probably a good idea to get familiar with the software itself first, and only then run it in a container afterwards
[16:30] <teward> ^ that
[16:30] <teward> me, I just VM everything, but i have a large VM cluster for that purpose
[16:30] <filipoi> yeah – but I had nginx running on the host before
[16:31] <filipoi> now I wanted to try soemthing different
[16:34] <filipoi> ok I gotta go – thanks for your time.
[16:35] <teward> well i've had bad luck with lxc containers anyways, hence why I invested in a beefy VM host server xD
[16:35] <teward> and no problem
[16:37] <squisher> If I was to experiment with containers it'd probably be docker
[16:37] <teward> what squisher said xD
[16:38] <teward> although i prefer VMs since i have many vlans for different network access levels xD
[19:00] <Kully3xf> what's up guys/gals. Trying to write a loop that will inject a shell script over ssh taking in IP's from a list
[19:07] <bekks> So do it.
[19:28] <bitfury> that's strange, trying to sync clocks against NIST NTP servers but iptables is blocking it even though I have a proper rule for allowing returning traffic (established, related)
[19:29] <bitfury> http://is.gd/Wgweju
[19:29] <patdk-wk> that only works if your using conntrack
[19:30] <bitfury> paste of iptable rules, ntpq -p returns timed out, nothing received
[19:30] <bitfury> :\
[19:30] <patdk-wk> I wouldn't use nist ever though
[19:30] <patdk-wk> those timeservers are so overloaded, and they bandwidth limit
[19:30] <bitfury> what's onntrack?
[19:30] <patdk-wk> just use pool.ntp.org
[19:30] <bitfury> c
[19:30] <Kully3xf> what does ssh -tt do
[19:31] <bitfury> patdk-wk: we're required to use NIST (compliance of some sort)
[19:31] <patdk-wk> ok
[19:31] <patdk-wk> test with pool.ntp.org to VERIFY it's not a nist issue
[19:31] <bitfury> lets see
[19:33] <patdk-wk> what is your ip?
[19:33] <bitfury> hmm
[19:33] <bitfury> same with pool.ntp.org
[19:34] <bitfury> what ip
[19:34] <patdk-wk> that your traffic is coming from
[19:35] <Sprocks> i seem to be having a problem mounting a cifs share in fstab, when i use the same info that works on another ubuntu i get mount error(95): Operation not supported Refer to the mount.cifs(8) manual page (e.g. man mount.cifs) but it doesnt say what is wrong. If i use sudo mount with the same info it mounts fine
[19:35] <sarnold> Sprocks: is there anything in dmesg?
[19:36] <Sprocks> how do i check?
[19:36] <bitfury> patdk-wk: not sure I would like to disclose it here
[19:36] <patdk-wk> hmm?
[19:36] <patdk-wk> your public ip is so private your not allowed to use it on the internet?
[19:36] <sarnold> Sprocks: dmesg | tail
[19:36] <patdk-wk> sorry, but heh, not sure how to help anymore
[19:37] <Sprocks> sarnold: cifs_mount failed w/return code = -95
[19:37] <bitfury> patdk-wk: not about being private, that's like asking someone I just met for their home address
[19:38] <patdk-wk> no it's not
[19:38] <bitfury> I think it is
[19:38] <Sprocks> sarnold: also says Server requires packet signing to be enabled in /proc/fs/cifs/SecurityFlags
[19:38] <quantic> well, it's not
[19:38] <patdk-wk> ya, cause if I know your ip address, I know where you are and can kill you in your sleep
[19:39] <patdk-wk> networks use ip addresses
[19:39] <patdk-wk> without ip addresses diagnostics of network issues are impossible
[19:39] <patdk-wk> sorry, Ican't help you
[19:39] <bitfury> ok thanks
[19:40] <sarnold> bitfury: turn off iptables entirely and test?
[19:40] <bitfury> hmm lets give that a shot
[19:41] <sarnold> Sprocks: hmm never heard of that; maybe try to modprobe cifs manually?
[19:43] <Sprocks> sarnold: to turn off iptable i use ufw disable right?
[19:43] <bitfury> sarnold: that did it..
[19:43] <sarnold> Sprocks: I think so
[19:44] <bitfury> but my first rule should allow return traffic though..
[19:44] <sarnold> bitfury: hah, sorry, now you have to figure out the rules :)
[19:44] <bitfury> heh, yep
[19:45] <Sprocks> sarnold: like i said is i use mount -t cifs it works but info in /etc/fstab doesnt
[19:46] <Sprocks> sarnold: i used this guide to get it to work on the one machine https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently#Mount_password_protected_network_folders
[19:49] <sarnold> Sprocks: interesting; that guide recommends putting the credentials in your home directory. that seems odd. try putting the credentials in /etc somewhere, set file owner and group to root, and then adjust /etc/fstab for the new name..
[19:50] <Sprocks> sarnold: i thought that was wierd also but it worked great on the one machine with an identical setup as far as im aware
[19:54] <Sprocks> sarnold: moved it to /etc and still same result "operation not supported"
[19:56] <sarnold> Sprocks: oh well, that was a long shot :/ I've got to run; pastebin your fstab and maybe someonme will figurfe it out before Ig et back
[20:07] <Sprocks> ok so to continue the testing process i removed the uid arg and now i get mount error(79): Can not access a needed shared library
[20:35] <Sprocks> im getting mount error(13): Permission denied when trying to mount a cifs share in fstab is someone able to help?
[20:44] <Sprocks> ok i fixed it now, there was a hidden character in my credentials file somehow. sarnold the issue i had before seemed to be the sec=ntlm part but since ntlm is default i guess it doesnt matter that its not there
[21:53] <sarnold> Sprocks: hah, that's a crazy path to get there.. nice debugging :)
[23:15] <trippeh> Hmmm. I cant control systemd-timesyncd without dbus?
[23:16] <patdk-lap> you can't use systemd without dbus
[23:16] <trippeh> patdk-lap: pretty sure I am.
[23:16] <patdk-lap> ok, your limiting your systemd usage :)
[23:16] <trippeh> I'm running ubuntu core, it has systemd and no dbus running.
[23:17] <patdk-lap> hmm
[23:17] <patdk-lap> I thought dbus was a goal of systemd
[23:17] <trippeh> udev is active tho, of course ;-)
[23:18] <trippeh> seems most parts of systemd works fine without dbus, at least the stuff needed for servers.
[23:18] <trippeh> except controlling timesyncd ;)
[23:19] <trippeh> I really need to take a long and hard think about if I want to have dbus on my servers.
[23:19] <ObrienDave> decisions, decisions
[23:23] <trippeh> I have until 16.04 LTS to decide ;)
[23:24] <sarnold> please file bugs :)
[23:24] <trippeh> maybe I dont really need timesyncd *control*. would be nice for debugging the thing tho.
[23:26] <sarnold> it's hard to imagine a timesync thing not needing debugging or control once in a while, and I completely understand the deisre to keep dbus off if you can..
[23:30] <trippeh> easy way out is just to run ntpd, but the deb/ubu packaged version is too old for the client-only mode
[23:30] <trippeh> which means I have to firewall the thing, and using conntrack and stuff (thanks, UDP)
[23:39] <trippeh> I suppose I could do it statelessly if using just a few known ntp servers. not perfect, but what is
[23:57] <Scott_S> Hey there! Does anyone here have any idea why Postfix would be rejecting port 25 connections from outside of localhost? inet_interfaces is set to all, but it still won't accept the connection.
[23:58] <sarnold> Scott_S: is there anything in the postfix logs? has that port been filtered by your firewall? has that port been filtered by your ISP?
[23:58] <Scott_S> To verify, is that mail.log and mail.err? Sorry, I don't have any amazing amount of knowledge about POstfix.
[23:59] <sarnold> me neither :) both those are good places to start, anyway..
[23:59] <Scott_S> Neither of them has anything in them, unfortunately.
[23:59] <sarnold> dang. check postconf output for what looks like log files..
[23:59] <trippeh> Port 25 is often filtered if you are testing from a residential connection
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[04:39] <plars> cyphermox: I have found at least part of the problem, and I got a run of amd64 to pass. It doesn't seem to work everytime so it's still a little flaky but it's better. I'll try to do some more debugging on it tomorrow or pass it off to the next vanguard
[04:40] <cyphermox> plars: ack
[04:40] <cyphermox> what seems to be the problem?
[04:45] <plars> cyphermox: well, at first I was thinking it was the command used to restart rsyslog - it was using 'restart' rather than 'systemctl restart' as is likely needed by systemd now. But that didn't seem to fix it. I have it trying both now though, and not failing for that alone since we need to support older isos also
[04:46] <plars> cyphermox: part of the problem seems to still be permissions around /dev/ttyS0 though. That was changed a while back and it broke us. So we're adding syslog to the dialout group, setting permissions, etc. It still seems to persistently want to fail in some cases though. I'm not convinced there isn't some other error lurking there either, but I seem to be
[04:46] <plars> able to work around it for now
[04:47] <plars> cyphermox: to be fair, I'm not really convinced of the usefulness of these tests, they are just doing installs with different combinations, and preseed ones at that. There are autopilot tests out there for driving ubiquity through most of these same install scenarios.
[04:48] <plars> that seems like a much better test for the desktop install process to me
[06:05] <infinity> plars: If you want to support both upstart and systemd, what you're looking for is "service $service restart"
[07:48] <abeato> Mirv, any idea why is that ^^ (nuntium not found in archive)
[07:49] <abeato> it is a wily silo, that I was not able to publish before due to a bug in the gccgo powerPC compiler (now apparently fixed)
[08:24] <Mirv> abeato: err
[08:26] <Mirv> abeato: it's a sync silo trying to sync from silo 27, but that is already gone
[08:26] <Mirv> abeato: so it should probably be a sync silo from overlay PPA instead
[08:27] <abeato> Mirv, ah, I see... but there is a package in the PPA
[08:27] <Mirv> abeato: yes, but you're trying to rebuild which would mean trying to sync again
[08:27] <abeato> Mirv, anyway, which is the syntax I should use then?
[08:27] <Mirv> abeato: well I just put it in, reconfiguring now
[08:27] <abeato> ah, just seen, thanks
[08:28] <Laney> fginther: the things you don't know ...
[08:28] <Laney> fginther: Looks like Source can be Source: <source package> (version)
[08:28] <Mirv> the spreadsheet is giving a bit of trouble though again
[08:28] <Mirv> ok, now it orks
[08:29] <Laney> fginther: so do grep-aptavail -e ... "^${SRC}( \(.*\))?$" or something
[08:29] <Laney> fginther: and get rid of -X
[08:29] <Laney> I think that should do it...
[08:29] <Mirv> abeato: reconfigured + started https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-011-1-build/166/console
[08:30] <abeato> Mirv, awesome, thx
[10:03] <Mirv> ogra_: I'm not sure if it went unnoticed, but see http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/touch-image-stats/20150521.changes - GTK2 dropped! :)
[10:04] <seb128> Mirv, do you know what changed to drop it? qt?
[10:04] <Mirv> seb128: "me" :)
[10:04] <Mirv> seb128: I mean, the gtk2 theme support was split into separate package
[10:05] <Mirv> after Debian settled on the way to do it
[10:05] <seb128> Mirv, oh, great :-)
[10:05] <Mirv> that was the easier thing (than dropping gtk3) but also needed to be done
[10:06] <ogra_> Mirv, heh, it actually went unnoticed because when i looked at it i was focused on libgo (which droped about 30MB from the image too)
[10:06] <seb128> right
[10:37] <Laney> how do I delete a package from a landing?
[10:38] <Laney> edit spreadsheet, delete from ppa, watch only build?
[10:43] <Laney> ah "reconfigure"
[11:21] <jibel> tedg, Hey, how can we test the fix in silo 30?
[11:21] <jibel> since it happens on upgrade
[12:00] <popey> fginther: are you mid way through fiddling with jenkins? Is that why this is failing https://code.launchpad.net/~carlos-mazieri/ubuntu-filemanager-app/samba-browsing-11/+merge/252982 ?
[12:03] <fginther> popey, that branch is failing due to bzr conflicts
[12:05] <popey> fginther: hmm
[12:36] <abeato> trainguards, I have changed the target distribution for line 45 (silo 19), how can I reconfigure the silo?
[12:40] <Mirv> abeato: it needs to be freed up and reassigned. if that's ok (you lose the current builds), I can do that.
[12:41] <abeato> Mirv, that's fine, please do
[12:47] <Mirv> pete-woods: needs top approval https://code.launchpad.net/~pete-woods/indicator-network/15.10-fix-unity8-cycle/+merge/260849
[12:48] <Mirv> abeato: ^ 011 the dual silo
[12:48] <abeato> Mirv, awesome, thx
[12:49] <pete-woods> Mirv: fixed them both
[12:49] <pete-woods> sorry about that
[12:49] <Mirv> pete-woods: np
[13:07] <jibel> charles, is silo 46 ready?
[13:10] <tedg> jibel, Honestly, I'm not sure.
[13:10] <tedg> jibel, In theory just upgrading the package and rebooting should be the same.
[13:10] <tedg> jibel, Then installing a new version of an app
[13:18] <jibel> tedg, installing the silo on an upgraded device that shows duplicate icons would work?
[13:19] <tedg> jibel, No, you'd have to install or remove an application as well in that case.
[13:20] <jibel> ok
[13:21] <tedg> jibel, My concern with this bug is that it was vivid for two months and no one saw anything. I think we've fixed a bug, but I'm not sure it's *the* bug. I'm not sure there's much we can do with the silo, but I do think that on the next image we need to really flag this to watch out for.
[13:40] <pmcgowan> jibel, silo 46 wfm, mind giving it a go
[13:40] <pmcgowan> tedg, any leads on that dupe/missing icon thing
[13:41] <jibel> pmcgowan, works for me too, I was waiting for charles to confirm that it's ready to land
[13:41] <pmcgowan> great
[13:41] <tedg> pmcgowan, silo 30
[13:41] <pmcgowan> nice
[13:41] <pmcgowan> tedg, how to test it?
[13:42] <jibel> pmcgowan, om26er_ is verifying silo 30 but it is not clear how to test it without building an image
[13:42] <tedg> pmcgowan, You basically need to install the silo and upgrade/remove an app. But… yeah, what jibel said.
[13:42] <pmcgowan> ok will wait for omer then
[13:43] <tedg> pmcgowan, My big concern is that no one saw this in vivid for two months. So it makes me a bit worried about it.
[13:43] <tedg> I don't think everyone running vivid is wiping or something like that.
[13:44] <pmcgowan> yeah we install and update
[13:44] <pmcgowan> tedg, I only saw it by reinstalling rtm then vivid afterword
[13:44] <jibel> pmcgowan, bug 1461952 looks serious too
[13:46] <pmcgowan> jibel, yeah let me get them looking at that
[13:46] <pmcgowan> bfiller, ^^
[13:48] <jibel> tedg, what is the risk of regression with silo 30?
[13:50] <tedg> jibel, Software always gets better! ;-) I think it's pretty low. We're only changing the filters to look at more files. Worst case we delete a user defined desktop file, which is not a "normal user" by any means.
[13:52] <pmcgowan> jibel, for me it doesnt send the group message at all, just says failed
[13:53] <jibel> tedg, so an option would be to confirm that the silo works on OTA4 and doesn't regress anything even if we cannot confirm that it fixes the original upgrade issue, land it, build an image and redo the upgrade test.
[13:53] <tedg> jibel, +1
[13:54] <pmcgowan> iahmad, for that sms bug, does it send to one of the recipients or just Failed?
[14:00] <jibel> for me it doesn't send the SMS either, just 'failed' (untranslated btw) after a several seconds.
[14:01] <charles> jibel, could I get a second pair of eyes on silo 46? It looks strange to me:
[14:01] <charles> jibel, from the dashboard, the MPs look correct. The issue yesterday was a new MP was needed to only pull in the one new icon instead of tiheum's whole suru v2 branch
[14:03] <charles> jibel, but if you look at the diff file in 46's PPA it looks like that build still pulled in all of suru v2
[14:04] <charles> my guess is that this is a CI issue and wouldn't affect the actual landing, but would like a second opinion...
[14:07] <iahmad> pmcgowan, just failed
[14:07] <pmcgowan> ack
[14:08] <jibel> Mirv, ^^ any idea about charles question, why the diff in the PPA is not the same than the diff in the MP and in jenkins?
[14:08] <dobey> sounds like that silo needs reconfigured
[14:09] <dobey> and then rebuilt
[14:11] <om26er_> tedg, so I downgraded to last promoted image, upgraded through system-image-cli to proposed and then install the silo packages and rebooted.
[14:11] <om26er_> I no longer see duplicate packages. tedg is that expected ?
[14:12] <tedg> om26er_, It's possible. It would happen anytime the click hook is run. Installing a package is how you could guarantee that, but there are other reasons they'd run.
[14:12] <tedg> om26er_, So that's why I suggest installing an app, just to be sure they were run.
[14:13] <om26er_> tedg, I was not able to find the changelog. How "dangerous" is this silo ?
[14:14] <tedg> om26er_, pansy. Sure one could kill you but it'd have to be frozen and thrown at high speed.
[14:14] <om26er_> "this" :)
[14:15] <Mirv> jibel: diff in the PPA may be diff to the previous version that happened to be in the PPA, not the actual diff. that's why we have the jenkins generating the diff in the first place, since PPA/LP can't be trusted on providing a correct diff.
[14:17] <Mirv> charles: jibel: not opening that 13MB diff but maybe the diff is from the previous build that included the wrong things, so the diff shows how it's reverted again? the jenkins diff shows the actual diff from archive version.
[14:18] <Mirv> so the jenkins generated https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-046-1-build/5/artifact/ubuntu-themes_content.diff is the real diff
[14:21] <jibel> charles, the actual debdiff with the version in the PPA and the version on the phone is http://paste.ubuntu.com/11566558/
[14:23] <jibel> charles, there is a change for gtk-3.0 and the rest if the green icon
[14:25] <jibel> no sure why it is slightly different from jenkins though
[14:30] <balloons> fginther, confirming for myself and perhaps popey . We'll be shutting off the AP tests for now on core apps, yes?
[14:31] <fginther> balloons, yes
[14:31] <balloons> ty.
[14:34] <renatu> balloons, I got approval from rsalveti on silo 16. Can we land it?
[14:36] <charles> jibel, excellent, thanks for looking at that
[14:36] <charles> Mirv, thanks :-)
[14:37] <charles> jibel, pmcgowan, then IMO silo 46 is ready for QA signoff wrt card https://trello.com/c/JXxJRGIt/1753-ubuntu-landing-046-unity8-ubuntu-themes-renatu-charles
[14:38] <pmcgowan> charles, sorry it was so much trouble
[14:39] <charles> pmcgowan, sorry it didn't land yesterday as it should have; I should have started off with a cherrypicked suru MP
[14:44] <rvr> awe: I attached the syslog
[14:44] <om26er_> tedg, so what else should I be testing? Can you help ?
[14:45] <awe> rvr, thanks much!
[14:45] <tedg> om26er_, There's not a lot more, really all it does is change the hook that creates the desktop files.
[14:45] <tedg> om26er_, If you look at ~/.local/share/applications things should look "right"
[14:45] <tedg> om26er_, i.e. no duplicate apps or apps missing.
[14:51] <jibel> om26er_, maybe additionally install and remove an app to check if icons are added/removed and there is not much else we can do
[14:54] <jibel> charles, can you update column K on the spreadsheet for line 56?
[14:56] <om26er_> jibel, hmm, let me try that as well
[14:56] <om26er_> I was about to approve it
[14:57] <balloons> renatu, perhaps you meant boiko earlier?
[14:57] <jibel> om26er_, unless you find anything else useful to try from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Process/Merges/TestPlan/ubuntu-app-launch it's fine to approve
[14:57] <renatu> balloons, boiko is off for the rest of the week
[14:59] <fginther> Laney, thanks for the help. That should help get gtk-3.0 unwedged
[15:11] <pmcgowan> jibel, can you get the content of .cache/upstart/nuntium.log
[15:13] <jibel> pmcgowan, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11567396/
[15:14] <pmcgowan> jibel, yeah same as here
[15:15] <pmcgowan> wait yours is diff
[15:15] <jibel> pmcgowan, are group sms sent as mms?
[15:15] <pmcgowan> jibel, yes, seems no mms is working on krillin
[15:16] <jibel> pmcgowan, ah it might fail because wifi is on
[15:16] <pmcgowan> oh
[15:16] <pmcgowan> still fails
[15:17] <pmcgowan> kenvandine, see his paste
[15:17] <jibel> pmcgowan, I can send with wifi off
[15:18] <jibel> it's confusing
[15:18] <pmcgowan> really
[15:18] <kenvandine> oh... there was a fix for sending with wifi on just recently
[15:18] <kenvandine> abeato, ^^
[15:18] <jibel> bug 1417976
[15:19] <abeato> jibel, which is the output of "ip route" ? which image are you using?
[15:20] <jibel> abeato, with wifi on or off?
[15:20] <abeato> on
[15:20] <charles> jibel, sorry was in meeting, yes will update column K on spreadsheet line 56
[15:20] <jibel> abeato, I'm using rc-proosed/bq-aquaris.en #24 aka OTA4
[15:21] <abeato> jibel, also, which is your operator?
[15:22] <jibel> abeato, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11567572/
[15:22] <jibel> abeato, Free Mobile
[15:23] <abeato> jibel, cout you paste "cat /etc/NetworkManager/dispatcher.d/03mmsproxy" ?
[15:24] <abeato> jibel, and output of execution of /usr/share/ofono/scripts/list-contexts
[15:25] <nerochiaro> elopio: hello, i am having different results running a test in autopilot3-sandbox-run and normally. do you know of any known bugs in sandbox-run that might cause this ? the tests have something to do with keyboard shortcuts
[15:25] <nerochiaro> elopio: on webbrowser
[15:28] <jibel> abeato, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11567770/ + http://paste.ubuntu.com/11567824/
[15:28] <abeato> cyphermox, awe I remember to have read in some comment in some bug a problem when creating routes in case the proxy was empty in 03mmsproxy
[15:29] <abeato> might be related to jibel 's issue?
[15:29] <abeato> jibel, thanks
[15:29] <jibel> yw
[15:30] <awe> abeato, I don't recall seeing that...
[15:30] <abeato> jibel, one more thing :)... what do you get when doing "grep mmsproxy /var/log/syslog" ?
[15:30] <awe> abeato, did you verify he has the updated mmsproxy dispatcher script?
[15:31] <awe> brb
[15:31] <abeato> awe,yes that's fine, it is not a combined context, but proxy is empty for him
[15:32] <awe> what do you mean by proxy is empty? No MessageProxy defined in the context?
[15:33] <abeato> awe, right, see http://paste.ubuntu.com/11567824/
[15:33] * awe looks
[15:34] <awe> abeato, is the messagecenter hostname resolvable & reachable over the WiFi network?
[15:34] <jibel> abeato, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11567902/
[15:35] <abeato> jibel, thanks, it is this issue with the proxy, free does not define it and causes trouble with the routes
[15:35] <abeato> awe ^^
[15:37] <awe> indeed, I bet the mmsproxy script doesn't explicitly check for no proxy?
[15:37] <abeato> yes
[15:37] <awe> anyways, we need to determine (a) is the hostname resolvable over the WiFi network
[15:37] <awe> and (b) is the resulting IP address reachable over the same
[15:38] <awe> it could be that we need addtional routing logic added if there's no MMS proxy defined
[15:38] <abeato> probably it is the case
[15:40] <awe> jibel, can you see if you can resolve the messagecenter hostname when connected to WiFi
[15:40] <awe> ?
[15:40] <awe> and then see if the resulting IP address is reachable?
[15:40] <awe> also, is there a bug for this?
[15:40] <awe> abeato, ^^
[15:40] <abeato> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nuntium/+bug/1417976
[15:40] <awe> right
[15:41] <awe> thanks
[15:41] <awe> abeato, can assign to you?
[15:41] <abeato> indeed
[15:42] <pmcgowan> I think I disconnected, so
abeato, awe mms is not working for me on AT&T on either arale or krillin
https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1461952
[15:42] <awe> pmcgowan, ;(
[15:42] <awe> with ota4?
[15:43] <awe> do you have an active data plan? maybe they cut you off too!
[15:46] <pmcgowan> awe, heh
[15:46] <pmcgowan> yes ota4
[15:47] <pmcgowan> awe, I get internet
[15:47] <abeato> pmcgowan, please paste ~/.cache/upstart/nuntium.log
[15:48] <pmcgowan> abeato, this is arale http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11567998/
[15:48] <pmcgowan> abeato, this is krillin http://paste.ubuntu.com/11567348/
[15:48] <pmcgowan> same sim
[15:49] <awe> pmcgowan, my data plan is empty; I'm going to check with AT&T, but I can't reproduce while just on mobile data
[15:49] <awe> pmcgowan, in this case, when I try to send the MMS, the messaging-app just continues to show the spinner for the message
[15:50] <awe> I never see it stop and indicate failed
[15:50] <charles> jibel, line 56 marked as tested
[15:50] <awe> also, network-indicator isn't showing me connected to WiFi when I am
[15:50] <awe> ;(-
[15:50] <awe> pmcgowan, do you see the same endless spinner in the messaging-app?
[15:51] <awe> bfiller, do you remember seeing that at the sprint in austin?
[15:52] * awe my camera seem super-unstable on arale
[15:56] <rvr> Can someone confirm this with image 24? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1461999
[15:58] <jibel> tedg, can you mark column k of line 57 as tested (if it's tested of course) so the silo can publish
[16:00] <tedg> alecu, ^ did you test that silo?
[16:00] <abeato> pmcgowan, you do not have cellular data activated for krillin
[16:00] <abeato> pmcgowan, for the moment we need tht
[16:02] <pmcgowan> abeato, I don't? I can try again in a min
[16:02] <abeato> pmcgowan, the contexts listed in the nuntium log are all inactive
[16:03] <pmcgowan> weird
[16:06] <awe> pmcgowan, can you also dump the output of /usr/share/ofono/scripts/list-contexts?
[16:07] <awe> it appears that the apn db update introduced a new APN ( nextgenphone ) for AT&T
[16:07] <awe> you should now see ATT Phone, ATT WAP, and ATT Nextgenphone
[16:07] <awe> the latter fails for me if WiFi is enabled
[16:08] <pmcgowan> abeato, ok basic mms does work there now, so I am confused
[16:08] <pmcgowan> cell data was off as you said
[16:08] <pmcgowan> but group mms still fails
[16:09] <awe> pmcgowan, abeato and I discussed this yesterday; the messaging-app should display an error if mobile-data is off
[16:09] <abeato> pmcgowan, for arale, in your pastebin I see:
[16:09] <abeato> 2015/06/04 15:26:02 m-send.conf ResponseStatus for 6f58b19377ad081d8c67309452ee53c9 is 226
[16:09] <abeato> Error-permanent-message-format-corrupt = <Octet 226>
[16:09] <abeato> pmcgowan, was that when sending a group message?
[16:09] <awe> at least for the short term. abeato has a proposed auto-enable for MMS, but we need to focus on short-term message stability first and foremost
[16:10] <awe> abeato, does group SMS use MMS under the covers
[16:10] <abeato> yes afaik
[16:10] <awe> I had no input in it's design or impl
[16:13] <pmcgowan> awe, yes group chat needs mms
[16:13] <pmcgowan> abeato, give me a min, on a call
[16:13] <abeato> ok
[16:14] <pmcgowan> abeato, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11568609/
[16:14] <pmcgowan> thats a group send on krillin at&t
[16:17] <abeato> pmcgowan, taking into account that non-group MMS is working, and being error 226 a bad format error, we must be sending something in the payload that att does not like
[16:17] <abeato> pmcgowan, I think the data is prepared by messaging-app
[16:17] <abeato> pmcgowan, nuntium wraps it and sends
[16:20] <jibel> tedg, if alecu is not online can you do it, we really need this fix then rebuild an image
[16:23] <om26er> jibel, tedg approved
[16:24] <jibel> om26er, tedg ah thanks I missed it
[16:24] <jibel> om26er, no it is not
[16:25] <jibel> om26er, line 57
[16:25] <om26er> jibel, yes, says Granted
[16:25] <om26er> jibel, refresh your sheet :p
[16:26] <jibel> om26er, right for QA, but column K is not set to tested
[16:26] <om26er> oh
[16:26] <awe> pmcgowan, I just restored my AT&T SIM, billing error on their end. I'll retry MMS after lunch
[16:26] <fginther> popey, balloons, music-app and ubuntu-clock-app should now be un-blocked
[16:26] * popey hugs fginther
[16:27] <tedg> jibel, I'd really prefer alecu to do it, I think he's probably back soon (and I'm about to head out). He had an upgraded OTA 3.5 device he was going to test it on.
[16:27] <jibel> tedg, ok
[16:27] <tedg> jibel, But if he's gone for longer I can test it after I get this other silo done.
[16:28] <tedg> Not in a clean state right now.
[16:34] <alecu> tedg: I'm back from lunch, I'll give it a try now
[16:37] <alecu> tedg: but it's silo 030 that I should test, right? not 008 as suggested above
[16:44] <renatu> balloons, are you a trainguards? could you release the silo 16?
[16:44] <renatu> I got the ubuntu core dev approval
[16:44] <balloons> renatu, I'm not a trainguard
[16:45] <balloons> trainguards ^^
[16:45] <renatu> balloons, ok sorry :D
[16:47] <balloons> no worries, sorry if I misled you :-)
[17:03] <Mirv> renatu: it needs an archive admin ack for the new binary package and I haven't gotten one on #ubuntu-release. robru can continue to monitor it (and robru MOTU ack on other packaging changes..)
[17:04] <Mirv> (= I ack the other changes)
[17:30] <robru> Mirv: actually with the new dual landing support, it's now possible to change the target series without freeing and reassigning
[17:34] <alecu> tedg: installed silo 030 on my ota-3.5. Then upgraded to ota-4 (with the steps outlined by om26er): I get duplicated icons
[17:35] <alecu> tedg: I suspect this has to do with the ota-4 overwritting stuff from the silo
[17:35] <om26er> alecu, is there a new image ?
[17:35] <alecu> tedg: any hints on how to test this properly?
[17:36] <alecu> om26er: I think there's not. So, the current ota-4 image steps on whatever I installed from the silo
[17:39] <alecu> I'll try installing the silo on top of ota-4, but I still have no clue on how to test it properly.
[17:41] <jibel> alecu, from earlier discussion, I think there is no good way to test it without an image and the best we can do is to ensure the silo doesn't regress anything.
[17:41] <jibel> alecu, 3.5 to 4 is a full image upgrade and the silo will be overwritten
[17:43] <alecu> jibel: right. Then I'm not sure I'm the right person to test this silo; I offered ted help testing this issue, but I've never tested this whole package.
[17:43] <alecu> jibel: I can give it a go if nobody else is around
[17:45] <alecu> jibel, om26er: btw, good news are that installing the silo with the citrain script on top of ota-4 (and rebooting), shows only one copy of each of the icons
[17:46] <om26er> alecu, yeah, thats what I noticed as well
[17:47] <pmcgowan> jibel, so in the end I actually have group chat working on my krillin
[17:50] <jibel> pmcgowan, good, me too with wifi disabled. I suppose the original reporter's issue is also related to MMS configuration.
[17:50] <pmcgowan> jibel, could be, will downgrade severity
[17:51] <jibel> alecu, if you and om26er tested it and didn't find any obvious breakage, it's good to land. what do you think?
[17:52] <jibel> trainguards, can you publish silo 46?
[17:52] <jibel> robru, ^
[17:53] <robru> jibel: done. so that'll be in overlay immediately and wily-proposed shortly
[17:53] <jibel> robru, thanks
[17:54] <robru> jibel: you're welcome
[17:55] <alecu> jibel: sounds good to me. I'm finishing with the test plan for that silo, looking good so far
[17:55] <jibel> alecu, perfect, thanks.
[18:12] <alecu> jibel: the tests from ubuntu-app-launch/security-app-launch are taking forever. The rest is +1
[18:13] <alecu> jibel: and just now they are finished. I'm +1 the silo in the spreadsheet
[18:15] <alecu> jibel: om26er, tedg: ^
[18:37] <alecu> yay!
[18:38] <tedg> Great, thanks alecu!
[18:39] <alecu> tedg: thanks to you, sir
[19:28] <robru> lol, every time
[19:43] <robru> alexabreu: silo 28
[19:44] <alexabreu> robru, thx !
[19:44] <robru> alexabreu: you're welcome!
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[01:48] <jabuk> M 1.2 > 6.km JZ od OBREŽJA @03/06/2015 09:53:47 https://maps.google.com/?q=45.81+N,+15.66+E
[05:07] <napsy> jutro
[05:07] <idioterna> o
[07:53] <dz0ny> .aptf add-apt-repository
[07:53] <jabuk> /usr/bin/add-apt-repository > software-properties-common
[08:07] <anny_> dan
[08:09] <idioterna> o
[08:17] <anny_> kako se rešim rdečega trikotnika?
[08:21] <idioterna> kerga?
[08:25] <anny_> v desnem zgornjem kotu s klicajem
[08:25] <CrazyLemon> pozor.. prihajaš na prednostno cesto
[08:27] <anny_> zdaj ga vidim, zdaj ga ne vidim!
[08:27] <CrazyLemon> we are dealing with a magician! a warlock maybe?!?
[08:28] <zdobersek> it's an illusion!
[08:28] <anny_> hmmm....to bo nekaj s pr0n strani
[08:29] <anny_> they jinxed my comp
[08:29] <anny_> mojega moram za uha
[08:30] <CrazyLemon> mhm
[08:30] <zdobersek> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xDXF0agUeM
[08:30] <Seniorita> Key and Peele: Clear History - YouTube
[08:30] <Seniorita> »Key and peele«
[08:30] <anny_> odkljukala sem posodobitve za smplayer
[08:30] <anny_> upajmo, da je to to
[08:33] <CrazyLemon> ni to to ker tudi meni se je danes posodobil smplayer in ni nobenih trikotnikov pa klicajev
[08:33] <anny_> predlagaj boljšo rešitev
[08:35] <CrazyLemon> kaj poglej kaj ti napiše ko klikneš na klicaj/trikotnik/karkoli
[08:35] <CrazyLemon> -kaj
[08:36] <dz0ny> nekateri pokvarjeni paketi :D
[08:36] <dz0ny> klinknite za popravilo
[08:37] <anny_> piše, da so nekateri paketi zastareli, bla bla
[08:37] <anny_> ne mi predlagat sudo apt-get update, ker sem že poskusila
[08:38] <dz0ny> anny_: predlagam privat
[08:38] <zdobersek> opa!
[08:38] <CrazyLemon> poskusi spet..ker ti vedno lepo piše kateri so zastareli
[08:38] <CrazyLemon> haha.. dz0ny prebral 'pr0n' in evo ga..že na privat
[08:38] <CrazyLemon> go dz0ny go!
[08:38] <CrazyLemon> :P
[08:38] <anny_> get a room all of ya
[08:39] <anny_> trikotnik je zginil...do naslednjič
[08:39] <dz0ny> meanwhile http://i.imgur.com/3KqTj2Z.png
[08:39] <anny_> http://linuxforums.org.uk/index.php?topic=11545.0
[08:39] <Seniorita> Red Triangle with exclamation mark, next to wifi symbol, in ubuntu 13.04 - The Linux Community Forum
[08:39] <Seniorita> »My OS is up to date and my network is working fine,so I dont know why it is there, it usually takes time to appear after turning on laptop by it«
[08:40] <anny_> dz0ny, ti ponujajo tampone?
[08:40] <CrazyLemon> anny_ vidiš.. kaj piše prvi odgovor?
[08:40] <CrazyLemon> apt-get update :)
[08:40] <anny_> ja
[08:40] <CrazyLemon> in ti lepo nato piše kaj je failed
[08:40] <anny_> če bo jutri spet po starem, gremo naprej
[08:41] <dz0ny> anny_: zgleda preveč girly music poslušam
[08:41] <anny_> za spomladansko alergijo so dobri
[08:41] <anny_> zatlačiš v nos
[08:41] <dz0ny> mja sam grlo še vedno srbi
[08:42] <dz0ny> pa oči so tud zatekle
[08:42] <anny_> 14 dni pa bo bolje
[08:43] <anny_> http://pastebin.com/RmesdM2g
[08:43] <Seniorita> W: Ni mogoče dobiti http://si.extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty/InRelease - Pastebin.com
[08:43] <dz0ny> hm ja teh extras ni več
[08:43] <dz0ny> onemogoči jih v viru virov
[08:44] <dz0ny> "Sources Manager"
[08:45] <anny_> kje je to?
[08:46] <CrazyLemon> programi in posodobitve
[08:47] <anny_> tam ni nič
[08:48] <CrazyLemon> pod 'drugi programi' ni tega?
[08:49] <anny_> ne
[08:49] <anny_> ni tega!
[08:50] <CrazyLemon> no potem bo potrebno odpret sources.list pa izbrisat to vrstico :)
[08:50] <CrazyLemon> gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:51] <CrazyLemon> ali!
[08:51] <CrazyLemon> pa samo izbrišeš 'si'
[08:51] <CrazyLemon> iz povezave
[08:51] <CrazyLemon> pa ti bo zadeva delala
[08:51] <CrazyLemon> oziroma 'si.'
[08:51] <CrazyLemon> grep extras /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:51] <CrazyLemon> deb http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty main
[08:51] <CrazyLemon> deb-src http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty main
[08:51] <Seniorita> Index of /ubuntu
[08:51] <Seniorita> Index of /ubuntu
[08:54] <anny_> zbrisano
[08:55] <CrazyLemon> no zalaufaj apt-get update
[08:55] <anny_> sem že
[08:55] <anny_> tistih extras ni več
[08:56] * anny_ pošlje lupčka CrazyLemon
[08:56] <CrazyLemon> aww <3
[08:57] <jabuk> http://imgur.com/GgfHfoE
[08:58] <dz0ny> Your Hound beta activation code is here
[09:02] <dz0ny> Crazylemon rabid povabilo
[09:05] <Seniorita> [Web Upd8] Andrew: SysMonitor Indicator, Sticky Notes Indicator And Systemtray Unity Indicator See New Releases http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/webupd8/~3/OL94YfSeeA8/sysmonitor-indicator-sticky-notes.html
[09:20] <CrazyLemon> dz0ny nope..sem ga že prejel
[09:20] <CrazyLemon> in testiral
[09:20] <CrazyLemon> its..ok
[09:20] <CrazyLemon> hitr je..thats for sure
[09:20] <CrazyLemon> ampak to je pa v bistvu to
[09:20] <zdobersek> hja.
[09:30] <idioterna> zdobersek: neki sm nasu zate
[09:30] <idioterna> https://i.imgur.com/pJGwoJT.gif
[09:30] <zdobersek> ja.
[09:32] <napsy> poleg osmand, a je kaka alternativa google maps za navigacijo
[09:32] <napsy> ?
[09:41] <zdobersek> napsy: nokia maps?
[09:41] <zdobersek> apple maps
[09:41] <zdobersek> openstreetmap al kaj je ze
[09:43] <CrazyLemon> napsy here maps
[09:43] <CrazyLemon> free
[09:44] <CrazyLemon> and good
[09:44] <zdobersek> frood
[09:44] <CrazyLemon> or food!
[09:44] <napsy> ta noka here zgleda kr kul
[09:45] <napsy> pa offline maps ma
[09:45] <idioterna> noka :)
[09:45] <napsy> nokia
[09:45] <idioterna> mhm
[10:25] <CrazyLemon> https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xta1/v/t1.0-9/11390015_10153015510481312_9114707034247868407_n.jpg?oh=56e949088e71292a41b9ec28f35ce6d6&oe=55FE9004
[10:26] <zdobersek> to mu delajo
[10:27] <yang> Narat je v petek v Kino Siska rekel "Gremo Siska mala, to mi deli !" :)
[10:27] <napsy> kdo je Narat?
[10:28] <yang> Kitarist in vokalist katalene
[10:28] <napsy> hehe, kdo pa so katalene?
[10:28] <zdobersek> od katarine frendice
[10:29] <yang> ste pa slabo glasbeno razgledani
[10:29] <yang> http://jp.si/koncerti/20150528-31-Druga-Godba/.t/DSC01232.html
[10:29] <CrazyLemon> to je bil sam spam trick
[10:29] <CrazyLemon> ti pove X ime ti vprašaš kdo je in *BAM*
[10:29] <CrazyLemon> link dobiš v faco
[10:29] <jabuk> http://thejointblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/victory.jpg
[10:29] <napsy> oh lord :)
[10:30] <zdobersek> human google
[10:30] <zdobersek> our very own search proxy
[10:31] <yang> a je kdo kupil mladino danes ?
[10:31] <yang> ..slucajno
[10:31] <napsy> zakaj pa?
[10:31] <zdobersek> povej!
[10:31] <yang> ja ti povej a jo mas pri sebi ?
[10:33] <zdobersek> .gif maybe maybe not
[10:33] <jabuk> http://media.giphy.com/media/Dh78tzv7OUKDm/giphy.gif
[10:40] <yang> https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/11401586_10153019441729423_8629874150649424738_n.jpg?oh=d996c7d918688f3046da30547c5c4874&oe=560C6660
[10:41] <napsy> ne stekam
[10:41] <napsy> zgleda da sm neki zamudu
[10:42] <yang> tole si zamudu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jT69tBcEh2M
[10:42] <zdobersek> .yt borut pahor so what
[10:42] <jabuk> Borut Pahor vs. Barbra Streisand - So What? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BtSqtM4rL8
[10:43] <Seniorita> Borut Pahor na maturantski četvorki, 22. maj 2015 - YouTube
[10:43] <Seniorita> »slovenskenovice.si«
[10:43] <napsy> m'kay ...
[10:44] <napsy> ja sram ga bilo no
[10:45] <napsy> njegov dress code je cist sfaljen za zur
[10:45] <napsy> c-c-c
[10:51] <yang> https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/11390083_107525446249601_2214615095527493657_n.jpg?oh=a20c71460a421adde09c745c3f4dacd0&oe=55E86D75
[10:52] <napsy> a to je blo ko je pahor konca z njimi?
[10:55] <napsy> jao krneki
[10:55] <napsy> s cim se folk ukvarja
[10:57] <napsy> tale stack bi moral pogledat dobr da vidmo ce kje zalocka
[10:57] <napsy> aja ups, wrong chan
[10:59] <zdobersek> no pa dejmo
[13:02] <yang> .vreme lj
[13:02] <jabuk> ARSO: Ljubljana (299m): 29°C @04.06.2015 12:00 UTC.
[13:02] <jabuk> Vlažnost: 42% južni veter 1.9 m/s zmerno oblačno
[13:02] <jabuk> Sončni vzhod: 03:14:40, Kulminacija: 11:01:31, Sončni zahod: 18:48:22
[13:02] <jabuk> Dan je dolg: 15ur 33min 43s, Luna je v ščipu
[13:05] <napsy> sonce, sonce
[13:06] <idioterna> tle sicer ni sonca, je pa vroce k ps
[13:08] <CrazyLemon> .vreme koper
[13:08] <jabuk> ARSO: Koper Kapitanija (4m): 28°C @04.06.2015 12:30 UTC.
[13:08] <jabuk> Vlažnost: 56% zahodnik 4.2 m/s
[13:08] <jabuk> Sončni vzhod: 03:19:44, Kulminacija: 11:04:47, Sončni zahod: 18:49:49
[13:08] <jabuk> Dan je dolg: 15ur 30min 04s, Luna je v ščipu
[13:08] <CrazyLemon> hawt
[13:30] <zdobbie> .vreme Celje
[13:30] <jabuk> ARSO: Celje (244m): 30°C @04.06.2015 13:00 UTC.
[13:30] <jabuk> Vlažnost: 42% vzhodnik 2.7 m/s pretežno jasno
[13:30] <jabuk> Sončni vzhod: 03:10:53, Kulminacija: 10:58:38, Sončni zahod: 18:46:22
[13:30] <jabuk> Dan je dolg: 15ur 35min 29s, Luna je v ščipu
[13:30] <zdobbie> mone
[13:30] <zdobbie> dejte no nehat
[14:55] <CrazyLemon> .vreme koper
[14:55] <jabuk> ARSO: Koper Kapitanija (4m): 29.4°C @04.06.2015 14:30 UTC.
[14:55] <jabuk> Vlažnost: 52% zahodnik 5.8 m/s
[14:55] <jabuk> Sončni vzhod: 03:19:44, Kulminacija: 11:04:47, Sončni zahod: 18:49:49
[14:55] <jabuk> Dan je dolg: 15ur 30min 04s, Luna je v ščipu
[14:55] <CrazyLemon> mhm!
[15:06] <zdobbie> .vreme Celje
[15:06] <jabuk> ARSO: Celje (244m): 29°C @04.06.2015 14:00 UTC.
[15:06] <jabuk> Vlažnost: 42% jugovzhodnik 3.6 m/s
[15:06] <jabuk> Sončni vzhod: 03:10:53, Kulminacija: 10:58:38, Sončni zahod: 18:46:22
[15:06] <jabuk> Dan je dolg: 15ur 35min 29s, Luna je v ščipu
[15:09] <yang> .vreme lj
[15:09] <jabuk> ARSO: Ljubljana (299m): 30°C @04.06.2015 14:00 UTC.
[15:09] <jabuk> Vlažnost: 41% jugovzhodnik 1.8 m/s zmerno oblačno
[15:09] <jabuk> Sončni vzhod: 03:14:40, Kulminacija: 11:01:31, Sončni zahod: 18:48:22
[15:09] <jabuk> Dan je dolg: 15ur 33min 43s, Luna je v ščipu
[15:11] <CrazyLemon> nova sezona comedians in car getting coffee!
[15:54] <dz0ny> :D
[15:55] <dz0ny> yang: fyi http://potresi.herokuapp.com/
[15:56] <Seniorita> ARSO on map
[15:56] <dz0ny> mas tud temperature
[15:56] <CrazyLemon> zakaj ni na herokuappu temp. morja?? :)
[15:56] <dz0ny> well add it
[15:57] <dz0ny> se je sam js
[15:57] <CrazyLemon> pa ni https friendly!
[15:57] <dz0ny> https://potresi.herokuapp.com/
[15:57] <Seniorita> ARSO on map
[15:58] <CrazyLemon> mhm
[15:58] <CrazyLemon> 48 warnings
[15:58] <dz0ny> lol
[15:58] <dz0ny> fine
[15:58] <jabuk> http://danceswithfat.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/victory.jpg
[16:06] <yang> dz0ny: hvala
[16:10] <yang> dz0ny: od kje pa jemlje podatke za temperaturo ?
[16:11] <CrazyLemon> arso
[16:18] <CrazyLemon> dz0ny https://github.com/dz0ny/arso-api/blob/master/static/markerclusterer.js#L1605
[16:18] <Seniorita> arso-api/markerclusterer.js at master · dz0ny/arso-api · GitHub
[16:18] <Seniorita> »arso-api - Arso potresi«
[18:47] <upd> http://hooooooooo.com/
[18:47] <Seniorita> hoooooooooooooo!
[19:02] <yang> jebo te sudbina http://www.mladina.si/166863/zivljenje-z-bombo/
[19:02] <Seniorita> Življenje z bombo | MLADINA.si
[19:02] <Seniorita> »Triinosemdesetletni Trifun Mitić iz Binovca pri Surdulici se že šestnajst let bori z birokratskimi mlini srbske države in živi z neeksplodirano bombo zveze NATO,...«
[19:21] <netkat> http://glench.com/hash/
[19:21] <Seniorita> i'm sorry
[19:32] <zdobersek> NO YOU'RE FECKEN NOT
[19:33] <zdobersek> /RAGEQUIT
[19:33] <zdobbie> dat guy was maaaaddd
[19:47] <netkat> :)
[20:02] <CrazyLemon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttM_rVwYgfY tesla doesnt like thunderstrikes :D
[20:02] <Seniorita> Lightning hits my Tesla - YouTube
[20:02] <Seniorita> »An article was posted on teslarati with more info. http://www.teslarati.com/tesla-model-s-struck-lightning-charging/ Lightning struck near my Tesla while sup...«
[20:06] <upd> a tv jih pa
[20:07] <CrazyLemon> a veš kok tvjev lahko kupiš namest tesle s? :)
[20:07] <yang> ce si teslo kupis teslo
[20:07] <zdobbie> tolk, da jih ena strela ne more vseh zhebat!
[20:08] <zdobbie> ce si teslo kupis bilokater avto
[20:08] <yang> vsaj lepega kupis
[20:09] <CrazyLemon> ce si teslo itak vozis puntota
[20:09] <CrazyLemon> :>
[20:09] <yang> zakaj ?
[20:10] <yang> punto je cist spodoben avto
[20:10] <zdobbie> kdo vozi puntota?
[20:11] <yang> ce si teslo raje stradas in vozis drazji avto na kredit, da vidjo sosedje
[20:11] <yang> da mau fovsijo zganjas
[20:13] <zdobbie> wat en devil
[20:13] <CrazyLemon> zdobbie is there a troll deflecting gif?
[20:14] <zdobbie> let's see!
[20:14] <zdobbie> .gif troll deflect
[20:14] <jabuk> http://media.giphy.com/media/hYps6P5akWFXy/giphy.gif
[20:14] <zdobbie> good enough?
[20:16] <CrazyLemon> tis ok
[20:16] <CrazyLemon> .gif troll deflection
[20:16] <jabuk> http://media.giphy.com/media/3HTwNiX3UIvoQ/giphy.gif
[20:17] <CrazyLemon> better ^
[20:20] <zdobbie> whoa shit
[20:46] <zdobbie> spoiler-ish https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3mR55VtNLY
[20:46] <Seniorita> game of thrones Hardhome Thriller - YouTube
[20:46] <Seniorita> »This video is about game of thrones Hardhome Thriller«
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"Seniorita",
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"upd",
"yang",
"zdobbie",
"zdobersek"
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2015-06-04-#ubuntu-africa
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[05:54] <Kilos> morning africa
[06:16] <ariabbas> .
[06:17] <Kilos> morning ariabbas
[06:17] <Kilos> salut
[07:57] <elacheche> o/
[09:58] <elacheche> Kilos, did yu seen this section https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue419#Africa_Unite
[10:05] <Kilos> let me look
[10:06] <Kilos> oh yes neil is a friend and he got that from my new blog elacheche
[10:06] <Kilos> you still need to help me get my blog onto the planet thing
[10:07] <Kilos> i dunno the rss thing or whatever you called it
[10:08] <elacheche> I'll do :) :) :D
[10:08] <Kilos> haha
[10:09] <elacheche> Maybe I'll add you're blog using my account, it's just a code that you should add to the confuiguration, but let me check with the LP project maintainer first
[10:09] <elacheche> Or you wanna do it yourself? :D it's very easy :)
[10:09] <Kilos> i used to have one there years ago i hink
[10:10] <Kilos> explain whats easy
[10:11] <elacheche> You need only to get the ubuntu-planet configuration file from lp, then add your blog rss in that file → only 3 lines to add (link, name, hackergotchi), then copy your hackergotchi to the rigth file.. then commit the changes to lp
[10:12] <Kilos> whew
[10:12] <Kilos> no you do it
[10:13] <Kilos> you want to split my head again
[10:13] <elacheche> If the project maintainer tell me that there is no problem in that I'll do it..
[10:14] <Kilos> do you know how to search the planet stuff, there might be residue left behind after i had my last blog removed
[10:15] <elacheche> Kilos, come to #canonical-sysadmin to ask them if I can add your blog
[10:15] <elacheche> No idea Kilos
[10:15] <Kilos> ok be there now
[10:26] <elacheche> Kilos, you're blog link again please :D and you're hackergotchi via email :)
[10:26] <elacheche> or a link to it
[10:26] <Kilos> lol
[10:26] <Kilos> QA kilos.newblog
[10:26] <QA> Kilos: Huh?
[10:26] <Kilos> ai!
[10:27] <elacheche> hahah :D
[10:27] <Kilos> QA kilos.newblog is <reply> http://kilosubuntu.blogspot.com
[10:27] <QA> Kilos: One learns a new thing every day
[10:28] <elacheche> it's ok I find the hackergothi kenju254
[10:28] <elacheche> Kilos,
[10:28] <Kilos> haha
[10:29] <Kilos> where did you find the gotchi thing?
[10:29] <elacheche> blog
[10:30] <Kilos> haha
[10:31] <elacheche> Kilos, I add all the blog or only one label? → some blogs don't talk about ONLY ubuntu, so you can tag the posts using labels..
[10:31] <Kilos> you see my old blog there too?
[10:32] <Kilos> only the new link i think, the old one was like my history
[10:32] <Kilos> i dunno
[10:32] <Kilos> labels are things you stick on botles when you make canned fruit
[10:32] <elacheche> No no not like that :D
[10:33] <elacheche> Yeah it's like canned fruits :D I'll explain
[10:33] <Kilos> lol what you talking about then
[10:33] <Kilos> lol
[10:35] <elacheche> My blog talks about Ubuntu, and some other stuff like my personal life.. the guys don't like that I add all my blog to the planet, because nobody wanna know about my personal life :D So I TAG my blog posts using a tag called ubuntu-planet, and add ONLY that RSS' tag to the planet.. So only Ubuntu related things are showed in my blog :)
[10:36] <Kilos> yes thats good. my new blog will only be on ubuntu stuff anyway
[10:36] <elacheche> If your blog will be ONLY about Ubuntu so I'll add all of it :D
[10:36] <elacheche> OK then :)
[10:41] <Kilos> ty elacheche
[10:43] <elacheche> it's done http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~planet-ubuntu/config/main/revision/1785 Kilos
[10:44] <Kilos> w0000
[10:44] <elacheche> Now you need just a to write a blog post :D And it'll be in the planet :D
[10:44] <Kilos> oh isnt this one there
[10:45] <Kilos> this one is the important one
[10:46] <Kilos> hmm...
[10:46] <Kilos> maybe i can just republish it
[10:46] <elacheche> Remove it then add it again.. The planet shows only posts newer than 7 days
[10:46] <Kilos> will do ty
[10:47] <Kilos> eating lots of dates and drinking camel milk makes you clever hey
[10:47] <Kilos> hehe
[10:47] <elacheche> anyway if you do we need to wait for at least 2hours so the cron job add you to the live website
[10:48] <elacheche> hahaha :D why you still taling about camel milk and dates :p We have an African/European life style here.. And never have the chance to drink camel milk in my life x)
[10:48] <elacheche> talking*
[10:49] <Kilos> lol
[10:49] <Kilos> i love ragging people
[10:50] <elacheche> :D :D
[10:50] <Kilos> i do the same with neil thats in UAE
[10:51] <elacheche> hahaha :D He should have try camel milk at least once :D
[10:52] <Kilos> i dont know if one can even get camel milk
[10:52] <elacheche> I think that you can :D
[10:53] <Kilos> and my brother is in dubai at rotek head quarters
[10:54] <Kilos> he is going to some africa country soon to start a project for new power stations or something
[10:54] <elacheche> Good :)
[11:11] <elacheche> Kilos, your blog is live now :D You can add new post to see it in the planet :d
[11:25] <Kilos> im tring to find how to republish or delete it
[11:25] <Kilos> ill get there
[11:29] <elacheche> Or maybe write a new one :D
[11:29] <Kilos> lol you want me to think again
[11:30] <Kilos> ill just copy paste it into a new blog
[11:33] <Kilos> haha 2 with same name
[11:33] <Kilos> what a twit
[11:52] <Kilos> eish elacheche how come that blog shows with red c overing it
[11:52] <Kilos> oh my
[12:32] <elacheche> What!
[12:32] <Kilos> lol
[12:32] <Kilos> http://planet.ubuntu.com
[12:33] <elacheche> You did removed it → http://kilosubuntu.blogspot.com/2015/06/well-well-long-time-since-i-last.html ?
[12:33] <Kilos> some weird thing when copy pasting to next blog
[12:34] <Kilos> all red
[12:35] <elacheche> I saw it.. You removed it and it will be removed from the planet after thenext cron
[12:35] <Kilos> oh
[12:39] <Kilos> maybe i must try sleep a while
[13:00] <elacheche> Yep
[13:00] <elacheche> Kilos, Change your confuiguration so the blog post tittle will show up before the blog post
[13:00] <Kilos> let me try
[13:07] <Kilos> na too much rtfs to try find the config stuff, used to be so easy now blogging is hard work
[13:18] <elacheche> x)
[15:23] <elacheche> Kilos, can you please remind me about adding the new slot to the calender?
[15:23] <Kilos> ok
[15:23] * elacheche is decaffeinated, so he can't focus on many things at one..
[15:23] <Kilos> elacheche dont forget to asdd the new slot
[15:23] <Kilos> hehe
[15:24] <Kilos> there
[15:24] <elacheche> hahaha :D
[15:24] <elacheche> Thanks you :D
[15:24] <Kilos> you welcome
[15:24] <Kilos> :D
[15:25] <elacheche> I'm a coffee addicted.. And I stop drinking coffee during day since yesterday, so I'm not in a good mental situation right now :D
[15:25] <Kilos> oh my
[15:26] <elacheche> And am not going back to coffee soon.. Maybe I'll go back to coffee by July, not before that x)
[15:26] <Kilos> whew
[15:27] <elacheche> :)
[15:28] <Kilos> i love coffee as wel but drink mosly tea, beer mugs full
[15:28] <elacheche> I don't like tea..
[15:39] <Kilos> green tea very healthy
[15:39] <Kilos> or try get rooibos tea
[16:04] <elacheche> I hate tea :D
[17:03] <Kilos> elacheche go watch meetings channel
[18:11] <Kilos> elacheche Kilos, can you please remind me about adding the new slot to the calender?
[18:29] <Kilos> ubuntiste-msakni elacheche Kilos, can you please remind me about adding the new slot to the calender?
[18:47] <uxfi> hi there
[18:47] <uxfi> ANyone around?
[18:48] <Kilos> hi uxfi
[18:48] <Kilos> welcome to ubuntu-africa
[18:49] <uxfi> Anyone here watch Nollywood?
[18:54] <uxfi> thx Kilos
[18:54] <Kilos> you welcome
[18:55] <Kilos> stickyboy help here with movies info please
[18:55] <Kilos> you know more than me
[19:20] <Kilos> elacheche elacheche Kilos, can you please remind me about adding the new slot to the calender?
[19:33] <uxfi> anyone here?
[19:33] <Kilos> yeah just busy atm
[19:34] <uxfi> ah
[19:34] <uxfi> Anyone here watch movies African movies?
[19:37] <uxfi> brb
[20:08] <Kilos> sorry melodie membership meeting atm
[20:08] <melodie> Kilos have a good meeting
[20:08] <Kilos> ty
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"QA",
"ariabbas",
"elacheche",
"melodie",
"uxfi"
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"channel": "#ubuntu-africa"
}
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2015-06-04-#ubuntu-vn
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[01:17] <vubuntor112> 2 các bác
[01:17] <vubuntor112> cho em hỏi
[01:17] <vubuntor112> sao mà cái gtk dialog
[01:17] <vubuntor112> mình đã detroy nó
[01:17] <vubuntor112> sao mà nó vẫn chiếm ram vậy
[01:18] <vubuntor112> gọi nhiều lần thì nó lại càng tăng ram lên
[01:18] <vubuntor112> cú này em thấy ảo
[01:18] <vubuntor112> ko biết có phải là lỗi hay ko nên trình mấy bác
[01:19] <vubuntor112> cùng một button đó mà em bấm rồi tắt nhiều lần
[01:30] <MrTuxHdb> vubuntor112: bấm tắt cái gtk dialog không có nghĩa là bạn đã *kill* process đó
[01:34] <vubuntor112> vậy phải làm sao để tắt nó hả bác
[01:35] <vubuntor112> nó là thuộc vào children của cái parent
[01:39] <vubuntor112> nhưng mà em thấy cái đó hơi mâu thuẫn đó . đã dialog thì khi đã detroy rồi thì phải tắt luôn chứ
[01:40] <vubuntor112> thậm chí em del biến cũng vẫn còn
[01:40] <vubuntor112> chả hiểu sao
[01:41] <vubuntor112> em làm trên python
[01:41] <vubuntor112> còn trên c++ hay c em ko biết có bị giống vậy ko
[03:29] * SunshineCrab quắp vubuntor992 bay đi
[03:36] <vubuntor992> bên này h chả có khách nhỉ :3
[03:37] <SunshineCrab> đầy ra á
[03:38] <vubuntor992> chắc có ng tìm SunshineCrab thui :p
[06:18] <vubuntor061> Hi có ai online không nhỉ ?
[06:19] <MrTuxHdb> không
[06:19] <MrTuxHdb> giờ ăn cơm
[06:19] <MrTuxHdb> đi mx hết rồi
[06:19] <vubuntor061> không mà trả lời mới ghê :)
[06:20] <vubuntor061> có ai trong group dùng metasploit không ?
[06:21] <MrTuxHdb> ôi đệt
[06:21] <MrTuxHdb> sao dạo này lắm hacker thế
[06:21] <MrTuxHdb> :3
[06:22] <MrTuxHdb> vubuntor061: /j #metasploit
[06:24] <vubuntor061> ai đâu mà giám mơ đến hacker bác ạ :)
[06:24] <SunshineCrab> sploded
[06:26] <MrTuxHdb> vubuntor061: hỏi đi
[06:27] <MrTuxHdb> support ngoài giờ
[06:27] <MrTuxHdb> +1$/câu hỏi
[06:29] <vubuntor061> ok chuyển khoản visa hay paypal đây ? =)))
[06:29] <MrTuxHdb> paypal đi
[06:29] <MrTuxHdb> :3
[06:29] <MrTuxHdb> bitcoin cũng được
[06:30] <vubuntor061> hihi thôi hỏi nè :)
[06:31] <vubuntor061> mình tạo powerselll bằng social engineering set payload lhost bằng ip của route không phải public ip có được không ?
[06:32] <vubuntor061> mình thử và hình như lỗi là Bind .... gì gì đó rồi chuyển qua listen 0.0.0.0:4444 tức là ta không thể "hack" được :)
[06:33] <SunshineCrab> wut
[06:35] <vubuntor061> mất tiêu =)))
[06:36] <favadi> what?
[06:37] <MrTuxHdb> vubuntor061: được
[06:37] <MrTuxHdb> ip nào chả được
[06:37] <MrTuxHdb> tất nhiên là victim của bạn có bị dính hay không là chuyện khác
[06:38] <vubuntor061> không firewall không antivirus
[06:38] <vubuntor061> mà hình như con powershell đó bypass anti và firewall được mà ?
[06:39] <MrTuxHdb> powershell nào
[06:39] <MrTuxHdb> chứ giờ bind vào ip nào là chuyện của bạn
[06:40] <MrTuxHdb> kiểu bind 127.0.0.1
[06:40] <MrTuxHdb> thì ma nó connect đến à =))
[06:41] <vubuntor061> tức là mình hiểu nó tự chuyển lhsot sang một ip khác vd: 192.168.1.1 => 0.0.0.0
[06:42] <vubuntor061> mặc dù lúc trước đó chưa sử dụng ip đó để làm listen, tức là chưa có cổng nào được sử dụng cả ?
[06:43] * MrTuxHdb đếu hiểu vubuntor061 đang nói gì
[06:43] <MrTuxHdb> port thì liên quan gì đến bind?
[06:43] <vubuntor061> powershell trong công cụ social engineer ấy !
[06:44] <MrTuxHdb> thì làm sao?
[06:44] <vubuntor061> VD: tạo xong set lhsot 192.168.1.1 set lport:443
[06:45] <vubuntor061> exploit rồi nó tự động chuyển sang 0.0.0.0:443 ? tức là không thành công ?
[06:47] <MrTuxHdb> vãi hacker
[06:47] <MrTuxHdb> =))
[06:47] <MrTuxHdb> 0.0.0.0 = all ipv4
[06:47] <MrTuxHdb> 3 câu hỏi
[06:47] <MrTuxHdb> vị chi là 3x(5+1) = 18$
[06:47] <MrTuxHdb> tính rẻ 15$ cho lần đầu
[06:47] <MrTuxHdb> :3
[06:49] <vubuntor061> =))) mình dùng 2 máy để test và khi đến đoạn đấy điều không thành công ?
[06:50] <MrTuxHdb> chả liên quan
[06:50] <vubuntor061> chả hiểu nỗi thôi pp nợ 15$ đó đi nha
[06:50] <vubuntor061> cám ơn vì đã giúp
[06:50] <MrTuxHdb> vubuntor061: lởm lắm
[06:50] <MrTuxHdb> nợ nần đếu gì
[06:50] <MrTuxHdb> tiền tươi thóc thật ra
[11:53] <vubuntor773> alo
[11:53] <vubuntor773> cho mình hỏi lỗi khi cài
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2015-06-04-#ubuntustudio-devel
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[07:11] <zequence> OvenWerks: I suppose we should implement the "extra" feature into ubuntustudio-installer instead.
[07:11] <zequence> Right, I think you said that.
[07:12] <zequence> You are free to try things out, of course.
[07:13] <zequence> There may be a lot less .desktop files for us to handle than I'm figuring, but would be nice to have a scope of the whole thing when working with the menu
[08:07] <zequence> Well, downloading and installing the entire sound section in the repo now :)
[08:08] <zequence> Only 2GB of added space on top of the existing Ubuntu Studio installation
[12:38] <OvenWerks> zequence: most of it must be rosegarden... or it's manual
[13:19] <zequence> OvenWerks: lol
[13:19] <zequence> The graphics section was a bit larger. Perhaps 3GB of added space
[13:20] <zequence> Video, by far the smallest
[13:21] <zequence> Might have been around 300MB
[13:21] <zequence> The whole amount of desktop files will still be above 500 I think
[13:21] <zequence> Or, maybe not. But around that figure
[13:24] <OvenWerks> Thats a lot. Are all of them usable applications?
[13:25] <OvenWerks> Have you taken out oss only apps?
[13:35] * OvenWerks is off to work
[13:50] <zequence> I'm only looking at the desktop files atm.
[13:54] <zequence> Don't know how I could make a script know if it was oss only
[20:00] <OvenWerks> zequence: probably depends of the src would tell you if it was oss only. (shouldn't need to download even)
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"zequence"
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"channel": "#ubuntustudio-devel"
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2015-06-04-#juju-dev
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[00:54] <menn0> thumper: i get that all the time in my trusty VM
[00:55] <thumper> ugh
[00:55] <menn0> thumper: we should probably file a bug
[00:55] <menn0> :)
[01:53] <anastasiamac> axw: addressed :D PTAL when u get a chance :D
[01:54] <axw> anastasiamac: looking
[01:54] <anastasiamac> axw: \0/
[02:34] <davecheney> any one having troubles adding comments to reviewboard today
[02:34] <davecheney> the comment box does not load for me
[02:35] <davecheney> http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/1847/diff/#
[02:35] <davecheney> can someone please try to add a comment on this review and let me know if it works or not
[02:40] <natefinch> davecheney: worked for me.
[02:43] <davecheney> yay, logout / login dance worked
[02:43] <davecheney> i hate reviewboard
[02:43] <davecheney> it adds negative value
[02:47] <natefinch> davecheney: when we started with it, people wanted it for side-by-side diffs and dependent commits. I don't know if anyone really uses the dependent commits (I certainly don't), and Github has side by side diffs now.
[02:48] <natefinch> davecheney: it is a lot easier to see a few commits at a time on reviewboard... on github you see everything or just one. And reviewboard makes commenting better, because they're batched up.
[02:51] <natefinch> davecheney: it's also way easier to see old comments and the state the code was in at the time.
[02:54] <davecheney> sure, no aregument there
[02:55] <davecheney> but IMO that doesn't pay for reviewboards inherent shitness as an implementation
[03:11] <anastasiamac> davecheney: ty for shipit!
[03:12] <anastasiamac> axw: i got t2 for the price of one! tyvm :)))
[03:12] <davecheney> thumper: what's going on with this workload stuff
[03:12] <anastasiamac> 2 shipits*
[03:12] <davecheney> is juju getting into the process management game ?
[03:12] <axw> anastasiamac: nps
[03:12] <natefinch> davecheney: yes
[03:12] <davecheney> is there any value in me advising caution in this respect ?
[03:13] <thumper> davecheney: what workload stuff?
[03:13] <natefinch> probably not in the grand scheme of things, but I personally would like to hear what you have to say, and since my team is looking into this, that probably is useful.
[03:13] <natefinch> current spec (still being revised): https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PcRQXaerlsACro4y1y5LWD-uvhfHya2CkOcoljyFyCU/edit#heading=h.62n9cmrnxg4o
[03:14] <natefinch> brb
[03:14] <davecheney> natefinch: IMO the only reliable way to track a process is to be it's parent
[03:15] <thumper> davecheney: updated my branch
[03:16] <davecheney> and as the charms are the ones that own the start hook, it is not possible for juju to be the parent of any process executed by the start hook
[03:22] <thumper> davecheney: I hear what you are saying
[03:22] <thumper> davecheney: we are going for a good approximation of perfection :)
[03:48] <natefinch> davecheney: I think we could have juju be the parent, but it would go against the way everything else works. The main problem is that juju is currently set up such that everything in a charm is a script. Getting juju to be the one to launch the process would likely require a more declarative approach than we currently use.
[03:50] <natefinch> davecheney: there is a note in the spec about auto-launching from metadata... so that might do what you want.
[03:50] <natefinch> it is under "open questions" and does say "optional" though
[04:11] <davecheney> natefinch: i don't think juju can be the parent
[04:11] <davecheney> postgress for example WILL NOT run in the foreground
[04:12] <thumper> davecheney: could I get you to take another look at http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/1847/ plz?
[04:12] <davecheney> and some charms start more than one process, etc
[04:12] <davecheney> and when I origianlly joined Juju it was because juju was not going to be a process manager
[04:18] <davecheney> thumper: done
[04:21] <wallyworld> thumper: does a django charm take a zip / tarball as the app payload?
[04:22] <natefinch> way past my bedtime. Dave - we'll do the best we can. I'm more than happy to have your input on it. But I think container management (regardless of what we call it) is sort of required at this point.
[04:26] <davecheney> it might be required
[04:26] <davecheney> but getting 100% functionality is not possible without being the parent of the process
[04:26] <davecheney> and 90% coverage will be like HA, and backups, and leadership, etc
[04:26] <davecheney> that is, a source of bugs and suoport calls
[04:27] <thumper> wallyworld: no, not at this stage
[04:27] <wallyworld> thumper: how does django in general consume its app payload when you run a django server?
[04:28] <wallyworld> an exploded dir of files?
[04:28] <wallyworld> you give django the dir via some config?
[04:29] <thumper> wallyworld: there are two ways right now: 1) use a config value to specify a branch of bzr/git/hg/svn that is your app
[04:29] <thumper> which I don't do
[04:29] <thumper> or
[04:29] <thumper> provide a payload subordinate charm that installs it using the 'django-settings' relation
[04:29] <wallyworld> thumper: forgetting charms, if a user installs django without juju
[04:30] <wallyworld> how does django itself consume the payload? dir on disk?
[04:30] <thumper> yes, an app is normally a python module
[04:30] <thumper> or package
[04:30] <thumper> always get those two mixed up
[04:30] <thumper> dir in the python path
[04:31] <thumper> django executable is called with a settings module
[04:31] <thumper> it uses those settings to determine which apps are used
[04:31] <thumper> apps are expected to be in the python path
[04:31] <wallyworld> thumper: thanks, so with resources, we would store an egg of something ad then explode that in the right place for django to pick up
[04:32] <thumper> yeah
[04:32] <wallyworld> ta
[04:32] <thumper> wallyworld: it would certainly be simpler than using a payload charm
[04:32] <thumper> as long as the resources are optional
[04:33] <wallyworld> yes, we will still support the current methods
[04:33] <wallyworld> eg charm specifes bzr url
[04:33] <thumper> optional meaning: could be there for any particular instance
[04:33] <thumper> not supported or not
[04:33] <thumper> it would be good to have an optional resource
[04:33] <thumper> so we could use it if specified
[04:34] * thumper wanders off again
[04:34] <wallyworld> yes, but if supported an admin could publish a django app to JES and then juju deploy --resource myapp=webstorev2
[04:41] <davecheney> https://esta.cbp.dhs.gov/
[04:41] <davecheney> anyone seeing a cert error visiting this site ?
[05:05] <miken> davecheney: nope (FF 38)
[06:38] <davecheney> chrome 43 whinges
[06:38] <davecheney> but not chrome on my nexus
[07:04] <rogpeppe1> davecheney: thanks for the review of http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/1853/diff/#
[07:05] <rogpeppe1> davecheney: i've updated accordingly
[07:23] <rogpeppe1> fwereade: fancy taking a look at http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/1853/diff/# ? it starts to implement some of the stuff that we discussed.
[07:42] <fwereade> rogpeppe1, lovely, LGTM with a minor
[07:42] <rogpeppe1> fwereade: ta!
[07:44] <rogpeppe1> fwereade: i'd prefer not to add constants in this PR as it will obscure the actual necessary changes. i've left as much code as possible untouched so that it's obvious that it's not that invasive a change.
[07:45] <rogpeppe1> fwereade: ISTM that adding constants is a fix for old code that justifies a separate PR
[07:45] <fwereade> rogpeppe1, it doesn't *have* to be this PR, but would you do a followup then?
[07:45] <rogpeppe1> fwereade: sure
[07:45] <fwereade> rogpeppe1, works for me
[07:45] <fwereade> rogpeppe1, tyvm
[07:46] <rogpeppe1> fwereade: and i agree about the -path keys but that was another bite too big for this stage
[07:46] <fwereade> rogpeppe1, definitely
[07:46] <rogpeppe1> fwereade: i wanted to start with a fields var that was identical to the original one (i verified with gc.DeepEquals)
[07:47] <fwereade> rogpeppe1, yeah, I do appreciate how uninvasive it is :)
[07:48] <rogpeppe1> fwereade: you'll notice that i added another grouping ("juju") for attributes that are created by juju itself and can't be specified by the user.
[07:48] <rogpeppe1> fwereade: AFAIK agent-version and uuid are the only two members of that group - is that right?
[07:52] <fwereade> rogpeppe1, ...I *think* so
[08:57] <axw> dimitern: would you mind reviewing a small change to ec2test? https://github.com/go-amz/amz/pull/51
[08:57] <dimitern> axw, sure
[08:58] <dimitern> axw, LGTM
[08:58] <axw> dimitern: thanks
[09:01] <voidspace> dimitern: omw
[09:32] <jam> fwereade: TheMue: shouldn't we be archiving cards now that we've looked over the board?
[09:34] <TheMue> jam: I don't know the capabilities of the tool. unless there are no limits and good ways to query I always prefer archiving, yes.
[09:36] <jam> TheMue: we probably need to work with Alexis so she can pull out whatever metrics she wants to focus on (how many bugs addressed, velocity, etc)
[09:39] <TheMue> jam: yep, I'll also talk to katco about the separation between planned tasks in cards and fixes in lp. currently I'm not sure about handling issues in kanban too (double capture vs simple overview in one place)
[09:40] <rogpeppe1> axw: ping
[09:40] <axw> rogpeppe1: pong
[09:41] <rogpeppe1> axw: yay! you're there :)
[09:41] <rogpeppe1> axw: i'm looking at UpgradeSuite.SetUpTest in cmd/juju/agent, which i think you might have had a hand in
[09:42] <jam> TheMue: lp doesn't make it easy to break down by team IIRC
[09:42] <rogpeppe1> axw: i just saw a test panic, and it looks like it might be related to the go func()... setAptCmds statement
[09:42] <jam> and if we do start sizing bugs, it doesn't tarck that either
[09:42] <rogpeppe1> axw: ... possibly :)
[09:42] <axw> rogpeppe1: possible dabbled in there. looking
[09:42] <rogpeppe1> axw: anyway, it looks suspicious - do you know why that test starts a goroutine there?
[09:43] <TheMue> jam: yes, different focus. would like a kind of plugin to import an issue into a new card in a given board with auto-linking
[09:43] <TheMue> *dreaming*
[09:43] <axw> rogpeppe1: IIRC is a contortion around the way command execution is hooked
[09:44] <axw> rogpeppe1: so the commands are hooked, then sent to a channel, then this goroutine watches that channel and does stuff with them
[09:44] <rogpeppe1> axw: i don't see how it could ever be correct
[09:44] <rogpeppe1> axw: setAptCmds doesn't seem to synchronise with anything
[09:44] <natefinch> jam, TheMue: we don't size bugs. we treat them as a kind of overhead
[09:45] <rogpeppe1> axw: i'm fairly convinced this can't have anything to do with the panic i saw (a mgo double-close), but it still looks wrong to me
[09:45] <jam> natefinch: depends how you want to do it. That portion is up to the tea
[09:45] <jam> team
[09:45] <natefinch> jam, TheMue: the reason is that the sizing is so we know how long features take to implement. The bugs factor into the environment that makes features take longer
[09:46] <jam> TheMue: you can look into lp2kanban if you like, its a python project on LP that was an attempt to use LP's and Leankits APIs to sync them.
[09:46] <axw> rogpeppe1: what do you mean doesn't synchronise? s.aptCmds locks a mutex on the suite...?
[09:46] <rogpeppe1> axw: yes, but there's nothing to stop that goroutine running randomly after the test has finished
[09:46] <rogpeppe1> axw: or even in arbitrary order over several tests
[09:46] <axw> rogpeppe1: right. yes, that could be a problem.
[09:46] <rogpeppe1> axw: it's mutexed but not synchronised
[09:47] <natefinch> jam, TheMue: if we had bugs in github there are like 1000 projects to sync things :/ for ex: https://waffle.io/juju/juju
[09:47] <jam> natefinch: unbound 'done' doesn't seem great from Waffle
[09:48] <axw> rogpeppe1: is this happening for you frequently, or sporadic?
[09:48] <rogpeppe1> axw: i just saw it once; haven't tried again
[09:48] <axw> ok
[09:48] <natefinch> jam: I haven't dived into it super deeply, but I know it's pretty customizable
[09:48] <rogpeppe1> axw: for the record, this is the panic i saw: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11562154/
[09:48] <TheMue> natefinch: I would like bugs on github too
[09:49] <axw> rogpeppe1: I'll make a note to fix it, need to finish off some storage stuff
[09:49] <rogpeppe1> axw: ta!
[09:50] <rogpeppe1> axw: it may have something to do with the fact i'm running with go tip, which i believe has changed the default MAXGOPROCS to >1
[09:51] <natefinch> TheMue: from a purely pragmatic viewpoint, having bugs closer to the code is a good thing... plus then you get all the github bug integrations, like "fixes #123" which marks the bug as closed and puts a link from the bug to the fix automatically. I think we'd gain a *lot* by moving to github for Juju bugs, just in ability to navigate between bugs and code more easily, and process impovements.
[09:52] <rogpeppe1> axw: FWIW, it seems to be in the process of tearing down JujuOSEnvSuite, so it's probably not great that it's still running logic from UpgradeSuite :)
[09:53] <axw> rogpeppe1: heh, yeah. I think I fixed this somewhere else before. I probably cargo culted before that
[09:53] <rogpeppe1> hmm, no, that's commonMachineSuite
[09:54] <rogpeppe1> axw: it's a pity we can't tell from the stack trace what the embedding type was
[10:07] <rogpeppe1> a fairly trivial change to juju-utils (prompted by the discrepancy between UUID checking in juju/schema and that in utils) https://github.com/juju/utils/pull/137
[10:07] <TheMue> natefinch: +1
[10:08] <rogpeppe1> there are various UUIDs in the juju tests that fail the more stringent check. I don't really see why they should. e.g. 2d02eeac-9dbb-11e4-89d3-123b93f75cba
[10:08] <rogpeppe1> TheMue: I think it was your code originally
[10:08] <rogpeppe1> TheMue: want to take a look?
[10:12] <TheMue> rogpeppe1: yes, any pointers to failing tests?
[10:14] <rogpeppe1> TheMue: I changed environs/config to use utils.IsValidUUID rather than schema.UUID. That caused some tests to fail (try grepping for the above UUID in the juju code)
[10:14] <rogpeppe1> TheMue: I think it's reasonable that the two checks should be aligned, and I don't see any particular reason to forbid non version 4 UUIDs from being parsed
[10:16] * rogpeppe1 thinks the whole notion of "versioned" uuids is weird
[10:17] <TheMue> rogpeppe: I know you're no friends of UUIDs ;)
[10:17] <rogpeppe> TheMue: i like UUIDs a lot :)
[10:18] <rogpeppe> TheMue: it's just the RFC i have issues with
[10:18] <TheMue> rogpeppe: the versions simply express how they are produced or better which information are part of the UUID generation, e.g MAC addresses
[10:18] <rogpeppe> TheMue: ... which we never use
[10:19] <TheMue> rogpeppe: IMHO an IsValidUUID should allow all versions, not only v4.
[10:19] <rogpeppe> TheMue: i guess it might be useful to have a Meta method on UUID that returns information on the UUID by looking at the version
[10:19] <rogpeppe> TheMue: but most people these days just use /dev/random so it wouldn't be that useful
[10:20] * TheMue is currently happy, workers produce machine noise from two sides of the house.*aaaargh*
[10:20] <TheMue> rogpeppe: yeah, v4 is the most simple one
[10:21] <rogpeppe> TheMue: thanks. i'd appreciate your LGTM on the review if you think it looks reasonable.
[10:22] <TheMue> rogpeppe: my own lib (https://godoc.org/github.com/tideland/goas/v2/identifier) produces v1, v3, v4, and v5
[10:26] <rogpeppe> TheMue: the only reason I can think of for versioning UUIDs is so you can extract metadata (e.g. the mac address) from the UUID afterwards. i totally don't see the point in version 3 or 5, which don't even preserve the hash
[10:26] <mup> Bug #1461871 was opened: worker/diskmanager sometimes goes into a restart loop due to failing to update state <storage> <juju-core:Triaged by axwalk> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1461871>
[10:27] <rogpeppe> TheMue: anyway, old argument, best not restarted :)
[10:28] <TheMue> rogpeppe: I have to admit I never looked into the history of UUIDs and why those versions have been created. I only implemented them. *lol*
[10:29] <rogpeppe> TheMue: there are many standards that aren't worth implementing :)
[10:29] <TheMue> s/standards/code/
[10:30] <TheMue> hmm, and are to is. or does a plural of code makes sense?
[10:34] <TheMue> rogpeppe: btw, LGTM
[10:34] <rogpeppe> TheMue: i'd probably say "there is much code that isn't worth implementing"
[10:34] <rogpeppe> TheMue: thanks
[10:35] <TheMue> rogpeppe: yeah, I've seen huge "enterprise systems" containing tons of never called code. but nobody ever removed it and so those systems got more and more unmaintainable.
[10:48] <jam> jam
[10:51] <rogpeppe> anyone know why state.State.ForEnviron dials mongo rather than just doing a Session.Copy ?
[10:57] <thumper> rogpeppe: because I don't understand mongo
[10:58] <thumper> :)
[10:58] <rogpeppe> thumper: :)
[10:58] <thumper> if Copy works, happy to change
[10:58] <rogpeppe> thumper: it should do, unless i've misunderstood what's going on
[10:58] <thumper> rogpeppe: you probably haven't
[10:58] <rogpeppe> thumper: (which is very likely as i'm just skimming through code trying to understand why tests are failing)
[11:00] <rogpeppe> thumper: BTW, in case you missed it: http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/1853/
[11:00] <thumper> not looked sorry
[11:03] <rogpeppe> thumper: it's the start of what i discussed with you the other night
[11:03] <thumper> ack
[11:08] <mup> Bug #1461888 was opened: Units stuck in agent-state: down state <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1461888>
[11:08] <mup> Bug #1461889 was opened: don't turn invalid SetAddresses calls into Assert-only txns <tech-debt> <juju-core:Triaged by jameinel> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1461889>
[11:08] <mup> Bug #1461890 was opened: leadership unreliable in HA <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1461890>
[11:20] <mup> Bug #1461888 changed: Units stuck in agent-state: down state <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1461888>
[11:20] <mup> Bug #1461889 changed: don't turn invalid SetAddresses calls into Assert-only txns <tech-debt> <juju-core:Triaged by jameinel> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1461889>
[11:20] <mup> Bug #1461890 changed: leadership unreliable in HA <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1461890>
[11:26] <mup> Bug #1461888 was opened: Units stuck in agent-state: down state <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1461888>
[11:26] <mup> Bug #1461889 was opened: don't turn invalid SetAddresses calls into Assert-only txns <tech-debt> <juju-core:Triaged by jameinel> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1461889>
[11:26] <mup> Bug #1461890 was opened: leadership unreliable in HA <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1461890>
[11:37] <perrito666> davecheney: from the doc on rand I understand that using just rand.Intn will produce a deterministic result, which I dont really want
[11:54] <davecheney> perrito666: do you mean it won't be seeded
[11:57] <perrito666> well I dont feel the doc is not all that clear, but if it behaves as I assumed it does it will use always the same seed
[11:58] <perrito666> which should return a deterministic sequence of numbers on each run of juju
[11:58] <perrito666> I might have just missunderstood
[11:59] <davecheney> perrito666: i think juju should see the rng on startup
[12:00] <perrito666> s/see/seed?
[12:01] <katco> wwitzel3: ericsnow: jam and i running a little late, brt
[12:06] <wwitzel3> katco: rgr
[12:45] <rogpeppe> here's a fix for an intermittent test failure in worker/envworkermanager; reviews appreciated please: https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/2491
[13:01] <perrito666> axw: around?
[13:01] <axw> perrito666: hey, lurking
[13:01] <perrito666> axw: have time for a short question? (sorry I know its late there)
[13:02] <axw> perrito666: sure, what's up?
[13:02] <perrito666> I privmessaged it
[13:48] <mup> Bug #1461957 was opened: Does not use security group ids <ci> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1461957>
[13:48] <mup> Bug #1461959 was opened: serverSuite teardown fails <ci> <intermittent-failure> <test-failure> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1461959>
[13:48] <mup> Bug #1461961 was opened: UniterSuite teardown fails <ci> <intermittent-failure> <test-failure> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1461961>
[13:51] <perrito666> its a shame go sees go go as a typo
[13:54] <mup> Bug #1461957 changed: Does not use security group ids <ci> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1461957>
[13:54] <mup> Bug #1461959 changed: serverSuite teardown fails <ci> <intermittent-failure> <test-failure> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1461959>
[13:54] <mup> Bug #1461961 changed: UniterSuite teardown fails <ci> <intermittent-failure> <test-failure> <juju-core:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1461961>
[13:57] <mup> Bug #1461957 was opened: Does not use security group ids <ci> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1461957>
[13:57] <mup> Bug #1461959 was opened: serverSuite teardown fails <ci> <intermittent-failure> <test-failure> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1461959>
[13:57] <mup> Bug #1461965 was opened: UserSuite setup fails <ci> <unit-tests> <juju-core:Incomplete> <juju-core 1.24:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1461965>
[13:59] <wwitzel3> katco: will be about 3 minutes behind standup
[14:02] <katco> wwitzel3: k np
[14:21] <mup> Bug #1461968 was opened: TestLXCProvisionerObservesConfigChanges fails <ci> <intermittent-failure> <test-failure> <juju-core:New> <juju-core 1.24:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1461968>
[14:21] <mup> Bug #1461969 was opened: TestDialAgain fails <ci> <intermittent-failure> <test-failure> <juju-core:Incomplete> <juju-core 1.24:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1461969>
[15:03] <mup> Bug #1461993 was opened: support using an existing vpc <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1461993>
[15:09] <rogpeppe> jam: it looks like you're ocr today? if so, here are two small juju-core fixes for you, both fixing flaky tests: http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/1859/, http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/1858/
[15:09] <rogpeppe> anyone else: reviews much appreciated. the first one is just a one line fix.
[15:11] <jam> rogpeppe: well, technically I'm 2 hours past my EOD but I happen to be around so I'll give it a look
[15:12] <jam> first one LGTM
[15:12] <rogpeppe> jam: thanks :_
[15:12] <rogpeppe> :)
[15:23] <jam> rogpeppe: for http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/1858/diff/#
[15:23] <jam> I feel like "errors.Cause(err) == tomb.ErrDying" isn't right.
[15:23] <rogpeppe> jam: oh yes?
[15:23] <jam> I *feel* like that should be "!= tomb.ErrDying"
[15:24] <jam> rogpeppe: why would we only pass up ErrDying if the underlying runner dies?
[15:24] <rogpeppe> jam: funnily enough i had it that way originally, but it's wrong
[15:24] <rogpeppe> jam: luckily i wrote the test :)
[15:24] <jam> rogpeppe: so I think the test you added is handled by go func() { m.tomb.Kill(m.runner.Wait()) }
[15:24] <jam> that passes whatever Wait() returns immediately to tomb, doesn't it?
[15:25] <rogpeppe> jam: but that can happen at any time in the future
[15:25] <rogpeppe> jam: there's no guarantee that it happens before tomb.Done is called
[15:25] <jam> sure
[15:26] <jam> rogpeppe: but I don't see how the concrete error gets returned from loop()
[15:26] <jam> if it came from runner then
[15:26] <jam> rogpeppe: ah, you're checking retErr
[15:26] <jam> I'm not a big fan of secret named funcs
[15:26] <rogpeppe> jam: yes, i wondered if you hadn't noticed that
[15:26] <jam> return vars
[15:27] <rogpeppe> jam: it's not *that* secret :)
[15:27] <jam> so only if the current return reason is ErrDying then override with the error from m.runner
[15:27] <rogpeppe> jam: yes
[15:27] <jam> rogpeppe: I feel like that is actually the responsibility of tomb.IsFatal and tomb.IsMoreImportant
[15:28] <rogpeppe> jam: if you've got a better suggestion for how to phrase it, please tell
[15:28] <jam> rogpeppe: shouldn't we just pass m.tomb.Kill() the value of m.runner always?
[15:28] <rogpeppe> jam: tomb doesn't have either of those things AFAIR
[15:28] <jam> and then loop() returns and passes that in as well?
[15:29] <rogpeppe> jam: yeah, that's probably better
[15:29] <jam> rogpeppe: k. so the thing I saw was m.runner having the comparison checkers
[15:29] <jam> rogpeppe: but Tomb also knows about error priority
[15:29] <jam> at least, it knows how to treat ErrDying vs a real error.
[15:30] <rogpeppe> jam: yes, w.r.t. other errors > ErrDying
[15:30] <jam> rogpeppe: do we have to unwrap our error before passing it to tomb.Kill?
[15:30] <jam> given that you are using errors.Cause()
[15:30] <jam> we can't pass an errors.Cause() style error directly to tomb.Kill()
[15:30] <rogpeppe> jam: that's not actually necessary
[15:30] <jam> if Cause() == ErrDying but *err* != ErrDying then tomb doesn't work right.
[15:31] <rogpeppe> jam: i just tend to avoid direct error == tests
[15:33] <jam> rogpeppe: so new review, LGTM though maybe we'd rather just do m.tomb.Kill(m.runner.Wait()) as we do elsewhere rather than reimplementing that check.
[15:33] <jam> rogpeppe: hm...
[15:33] <jam> maybe not
[15:34] <rogpeppe> jam: ha, it should actually probably be done in the caller function, around line 36
[15:34] <jam> rogpeppe: as if we are talking to m.tomb.Kill() first
[15:34] <jam> then we take priority
[15:34] <rogpeppe> jam: i'm thinking we probably want the return value from m.runner to take precedence
[15:34] <jam> rogpeppe: defer func() {m.runner.Kill(); m.tomb.Kill(m.runner.Wait())} ?
[15:35] <jam> rogpeppe: I don't know this func that well. ATM loop() sets the value first
[15:35] <jam> And arguably if m.envHasUUID() or whatever fails we're in a state that it doesn't really matter what m.runner returns.
[15:35] <jam> sorry m.envHasChanged(uuid)
[15:36] <jam> rogpeppe: so what you have is ok, moving into the New* func sounds slightly better.
[15:37] <jam> ordering of errors sounds like it is going to get us into trouble unless people can concretely say that they need this error over that one.
[15:37] <jam> but if envHasChanged returns an error we are likely in a state where m.runner can't say real things anyway.
[15:37] <rogpeppe> jam: it's always an interesting issue
[15:37] <rogpeppe> jam: my thought is that m.runner contains the meatiest stuff
[15:38] <rogpeppe> jam: so we're much more likely to be interested in that error
[15:38] <rogpeppe> jam: (i wish that tomb logged errors when it threw them away)
[15:38] <jam> rogpeppe: agreed about tomb
[15:39] <rogpeppe> jam: aside: the default value of GOMAXPROCS has changed in go tip, so it's finding these issues more consistently
[15:42] <rogpeppe> fwereade: do you have any idea what the root cause is behind the intermittent worker/uniter test failures?
[15:42] <rogpeppe> fwereade: e.g. FAIL: uniter_test.go:875: UniterSuite.TestUniterUpgradeConflicts
[15:42] <rogpeppe> util_test.go:726:
[15:42] <rogpeppe> c.Fatalf("never reached desired status")
[15:44] <rogpeppe> jam: after experimenting both ways, i think it looks marginally nicer keeping the defer inside the loop function. then the outer level is the classic defer done, kill(loop) idiom
[15:44] <natefinch> rogpeppe: I'm so glad they changed the default of GOMAXPROCS.
[15:44] <fwereade> rogpeppe, not offhand -- status-setting has changed lately, though
[15:45] <rogpeppe> natefinch: +1
[15:45] <rogpeppe> natefinch: i'm so glad they sped up the scheduler so much :)
[15:46] <natefinch> rogpeppe: hah yeah, that too. Though honestly, I think I would have set it to NumCPUs anyway, since it was always surprising to people when it was not (and it would have meant they find more race conditions if someone did set GOMAXPROCS).
[15:46] <rogpeppe> fwereade: here's the test output i saw (excluding log messages) FWIW: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11567979/
[15:48] <rogpeppe> jam: i've changed it - PTAL
[15:48] <jam> rogpeppe: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1At2Ls5_fhJQ59kDK2DFVhFu3g5mATSXqqV5QrxinasI/edit?pli=1 those GOMAXPROCS benchmarks look really good in 1.5
[15:49] <rogpeppe> jam: yeah, the overhead's more or less gone away
[15:49] <fwereade> rogpeppe, hmm, that looks like we're not clearing the resolved flag
[15:49] <fwereade> rogpeppe, I always worried that would be racy... :/
[15:52] * fwereade thinks he might be able to see it -- util_test.go:978 looks like exactly the sort of hack that'd be rendered unstable by status changes
[15:52] <jam> rogpeppe: lgtm
[15:52] <rogpeppe> jam: ta!
[15:52] * jam leaves to go play with my son
[15:52] <fwereade> rogpeppe, would you point wallyworld at it please?
[15:52] <rogpeppe> jam: enjoy!
[15:52] <rogpeppe> fwereade: at the test failure?
[15:53] <fwereade> rogpeppe, yeah, I'm blithely assertinng that he did status stuff and should be in a good position to track it down
[15:53] <fwereade> rogpeppe, or possibly perrito666? ^^
[15:57] <rogpeppe> ha, i bet this is the same issue
[15:57] <rogpeppe> https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1448308
[15:57] <mup> Bug #1448308: Skipped TestUniterUpgradeConflicts on ppc64 <skipped-test> <test-failure> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1448308>
[15:57] <rogpeppe> coretesting.SkipIfPPC64EL(c, "lp:1448308")
[15:58] <rogpeppe> that's surely bogus
[16:03] <rogpeppe> fwereade: it would be nice to have comments on the uniter test primitives. for example, what are the various fields in the waitUnitAgent meant to imply?
[16:07] <rogpeppe> fwereade: what does a resolved status of "no hooks" imply?
[16:07] <rogpeppe> sorry, no-hooks
[16:08] <rogpeppe> oh i see, ignore me
[16:10] <voidspace> dimitern: http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/1860/
[16:13] <mgz_> oh, forgot to propose branch...
[16:14] <perrito666> sorry I was afk, not having the best health day
[16:14] <mgz_> rogpeppe: just for you, http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/1861
[16:14] <perrito666> fwereade: rogpepe, what's going on?
[16:14] <rogpeppe> mgz_: i think a fix for those is already landing
[16:15] <mgz_> doh, this is why I shouldn't forget branches
[16:15] <rogpeppe> mgz_: as part of https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/2487/files
[16:16] <rogpeppe> mgz_: although... i can't land that quite yet as i can't get tests to pass
[16:16] <rogpeppe> mgz_: so LGTM, go for it
[16:16] <mgz_> rogpeppe: sure thing
[16:16] <dimitern> voidspace, looking, but also in a call so it might take some time
[16:16] <mgz_> rogpeppe: I actually did that change after you said in irc but forgot about it...
[16:17] <voidspace> dimitern: np, I'm working on the higher level stuff anyway
[16:20] <perrito666> rogpeppe: fwereade do you still need my help? that particular test suite is a pain to follow
[16:20] <natefinch> ericsnow: I presume ProcessInfo.Status is supposed to be an enum? i.e., you can't just put whatever string you want in there
[16:20] <ericsnow> natefinch: pretty much
[16:20] <rogpeppe> perrito666: i'm seeing a consistently reproducible failure in that test
[16:21] <rogpeppe> perrito666: and i don't really want to get sidelined into fixing it
[16:21] <natefinch> ericsnow: I'm going to leave a comment that says we should make it a numeric enum. Making it a string just makes it less obvious it's supposed to be an enum
[16:22] <perrito666> rogpeppe: and this only happens in ppc
[16:22] <perrito666> ?
[16:23] <rogpeppe> perrito666: no, this is on my normal laptop
[16:23] <rogpeppe> perrito666: although i am running with go tip
[16:23] <rogpeppe> perrito666: i'm sure it's just an inherent problem with the test though
[16:25] <perrito666> rogpeppe: yes, that test is as brittle as a crystal hamer
[16:25] <perrito666> hammer*
[16:25] <perrito666> well not really brittle, it just makes a very good job hiding real issues
[16:26] <rogpeppe> perrito666: verifyWaitingUpgradeError in particular seems very handwavy
[16:26] <perrito666> rogpeppe: this is master tip rigt?
[16:27] <rogpeppe> perrito666: yes
[16:27] * perrito666 runs the test
[16:27] <rogpeppe> perrito666: try running it with GOMAXPROCS=4
[16:28] <rogpeppe> perrito666: and run it a few times.
[16:28] <rogpeppe> perrito666: (best to use go test -c and then run the test binary directly)
[16:28] <perrito666> oh it is one of those bugs
[16:29] <rogpeppe> perrito666: yeah, it's definitely a race
[16:29] <natefinch> nick natefinch-afk
[16:55] <dimitern> voidspace, reviewed
[17:01] <voidspace> dimitern: thanks
[17:02] <voidspace> dimitern: cool, not much to do - thanks
[17:09] <dimitern> voidspace, well, the code looks solid :)
[17:50] <perrito666> hey I cannot make it to today's meeting I have to take my wife to the dentist, sorry ppl
[18:04] <alexisb> perrito666, team call
[18:04] <alexisb> voidspace, team call if you are still around
[18:04] <alexisb> natefinch, team call
[18:05] <perrito666> alexisb: as I said abvove: <perrito666> hey I cannot make it to today's meeting I have to take my wife to the dentist, sorry ppl
[18:10] <Web> https://jujucharms.com/static/img/jujudocs/1.23/getting_started-aws_security.png <-- time to change this I think. There is a emphasis on iAM profiles now. Need to run through the process of using one first.
[18:13] <natefinch> alexisb: oops, sorry coming
[18:47] <mgz_> ericsnow: I have a proposed fix, but I don't think I actually have a bitbucket account
[18:48] <ericsnow> mgz_: k
[18:48] <mgz_> draft.rich_text = True
[18:48] <ericsnow> mgz_: ah
[18:49] <mgz_> but there's also a description_rich_text
[18:49] <mgz_> just tracking down if that's a subset or not
[18:53] <mgz_> aha, just rich_text is deprecated
[18:53] <mgz_> so, description_rich_text and testing_done_rich_text are the new way
[19:07] <katco> natefinch: 1:1 time
[19:07] <natefinch> katco: dang, sorry
[19:07] <natefinch> katco: coming
[19:08] <katco> no worries
[20:12] <perrito666> are there no tests for modes code?
[20:15] <natefinch> perrito666: we don't test code that rhymes
[20:16] <perrito666> natefinch: not fun
[20:17] <natefinch> perrito666: better run
[20:18] <perrito666> you know... you are lucky to be so far away :p
[20:19] <natefinch> but I do, so I can rhyme all day :)
[20:19] * perrito666 shops for a ticket to boston
[20:20] * perrito666 shops for a clue by four
[20:33] <natefinch> sorry, A/C man at the door. Sounds like he's not going to make us poor.
[20:46] <thumper> morning
[20:46] <natefinch> morning
[20:47] <thumper> how's it going nate?
[20:51] <natefinch> thumper: not bad... getting our A/C fixed.... which is good, because we thought it needed to be replaced until we got a second opinion.
[20:52] <natefinch> thumper: so, probably going to cost us ~$500 instead of ~$10,000
[20:52] <thumper> I bet you're pleased about that
[20:54] <natefinch> immensely. We definitely had not planned on spending $10,000 on the A/C this summer.
[20:54] <natefinch> unrelated, I'm trying to figure out a way to get github to be a satisfactory bug tracker for us, because i'm tired of not having integration with the code.
[20:55] <thumper> natefinch: nope, nope, nope
[20:55] <natefinch> heh
[20:55] <natefinch> thumper: what's wrong with github's bug tracker?
[20:56] <thumper> natefinch: I'm not even going to get started
[20:56] <thumper> I don't have long enough
[20:56] <natefinch> thumper: haha.... that's ok, me neither
[20:56] * mgz_ hugs thumper
[20:56] <natefinch> me either? me neither? I guess I should say "I also do not have time"
[21:11] <mup> Bug #1462097 opened: Bootstrap error logging needs to be more descriptive <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1462097>
[23:14] <axw> perrito666: worker/uniter/uniter_test.go tests the modes indirectly
[23:14] <axw> they're more functional style tests than unit tests
[23:15] <wallyworld> axw: anastasiamac: perrito666: just fiishing a meetig, me there soon
[23:15] <axw> sure
[23:15] <anastasiamac> k
[23:17] <perrito666> axw: well yes, I am trying to figure out how to fit my test
[23:31] <axw> wallyworld anastasiamac: I raised https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1462146
[23:31] <mup> Bug #1462146: cmd/juju/storage: "add" fails to dynamically add filesystem for storage <storage> <juju-core:New> <juju-core 1.24:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1462146>
[23:31] <wallyworld> ty
[23:31] <anastasiamac> axw: tyvm :D
[23:44] <wallyworld> axw: anastasiamac: btw, i've started to merge 1.24 into master, *lots* of conflicts so i'll see how i go. might need to cherry pick individual commits if it's too hard
[23:44] <axw> wallyworld: thank you
[23:44] <anastasiamac> wallyworld: sure! just say the word :D
[23:44] <mup> Bug #1462146 opened: cmd/juju/storage: "add" fails to dynamically add filesystem for storage <storage> <juju-core:New> <juju-core 1.24:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1462146>
[23:54] <davecheney> mwhudson: would it short circuit the debian debate if I proposed a change which just added the words we wanted to that page ?
[23:57] <mwhudson> davecheney: quite possibly, yes
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[04:40] <gkad> i'm new to tuxtrans. In that I would like to install tamil.ttf fonts. I could not copy the ttf in /usr/share/fonts/truetype, will you pls help me
[19:03] <Marius_> Hi
[19:03] <Marius_> Good afternoon all
[19:04] <Marius_> need a bit of help with autologin
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2015-06-04-#ubuntu-touch
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[01:22] <yaya> hello
[01:28] <zombienerd> I'm still looking for a workaround to get tethering to work on Mako devel-channel. If anyone has any info, it would be greatly appreciated.
[03:49] <OerHeks> E5 will be available for purchase on about June 12, across the entire European Union .... nine euros less than the Android version.
[03:52] <nhaines> That's not too shabby. :D
[03:54] <OerHeks> http://www.zdnet.com/article/a-new-day-a-new-ubuntu-smartphone/
[06:05] <lotuspsychje> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/06/vision-mobile-developer-census-win-ubuntu-phone
[06:05] <lotuspsychje> thats1 for you devs :p
[07:03] <dholbach> good morning
[07:19] <mpt> dholbach, good morning, is anything on <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bluetooth/TODO> remotely relevant any more, or can I delete the page?
[07:21] <larsu> given that the linked bugs were fixed 7 years ago, I'd say it's safe to delete
[07:21] <dholbach> yeah, looks like it
[08:00] <zyga> bzoltan, Mirv: hi, what is the status of the UITK runtime for 14.04, I read the announcement and I'd like to give it a try
[08:50] <raj> can someone tell me what building this is? https://i.imgur.com/6Otbv9I.png
[08:52] <popey> That's the walkie talkie
[08:52] <popey> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2786723/London-skyscraper-Walkie-Talkie-melted-cars-reflecting-sunlight-fitted-shading.html
[08:52] <popey> :)
[08:59] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Hug Your Cat Day! 😃
[09:20] <dkessel> setting PIN or password security fails on my nexus 7 after a clean re-flash. I cannot switch to developer mode because of this...
[09:21] <Mirv> JamesTait: I wish, not at home :(
[09:21] <nhaines> dkessel: what image are you running?
[09:22] <dkessel> vivid-devel-proposed 214
[09:22] <dkessel> nhaines: ^
[09:24] <JamesTait> Mirv, when you get home is fine. 😉
[09:26] <Mirv> only when the sprint is done!
[09:26] <Mirv> that's luckily tomorrow though
[09:31] <nhaines> dkessel: this also fails in my upgraded r214, as well as in wily.
[09:31] <nhaines> Bug time! :)
[09:32] <dkessel> shall I or will you? I am unsure about the package
[09:34] <nhaines> Ooh, I don't know which package either.
[09:35] <nhaines> I'm late getting to bed. If you file the bug, I'll +1 it and confirm it.
[09:36] <dkessel> ok nhaines
[09:37] <dkessel> popey: can you helping me finding the right package to file this bug against? we cannot set password or pin security on touch vivid r214 and wily
[09:37] <popey> someone mentioned this yesterday iirc
[09:38] <popey> ah it was dholbach
[09:38] <nhaines> dkessel: thanks a ton. I'll stick around a few minutes and keep an eye out. Just let me know the bug number. :)
[09:38] <popey> dholbach: did you get it fixed?
[09:42] <dholbach> popey, no
[09:42] <dholbach> mterry and seb128 mentioned a bug to me
[09:42] <larsu> switched my nexus4 to systemd and now it doesn't boot anymore. goes to black after the google logo, but seems to be on. no adb. also no pitti. anyone got an idea how I could debug it?
[09:42] <dholbach> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-system-settings/+bug/1460017 maybe?
[09:44] <nhaines> dholbach: that's the one!
[09:44] <nhaines> dkessel: ^^
[09:44] <nhaines> dholbach: also important: how do I actually clear the passcode?
[09:45] <dholbach> I don't know - I rebooted, then had to type in the pincode in the passcode-dialog - it was all very confusing
[09:45] <dkessel> dholbach: except i cannot set a password/code under "Security & Privacy" -> "Lock phone" -> "Lock security", either...
[09:45] <nhaines> Hm.
[09:45] <dholbach> try rebooting and see if it's set then
[09:45] <dkessel> k
[09:45] <nhaines> Rebooting now.
[09:46] <dholbach> good luck
[09:46] * dholbach runs some errands
[09:46] <nhaines> Same.
[09:47] <ogra_> just use the passwd command ?
[09:47] <nhaines> wait.
[09:47] <nhaines> Suddenly this says Ubuntu 15.10. Which is weird.
[09:47] <popey> uhoh
[09:47] <popey> you're on devel-proposed?
[09:48] <ogra_> whats weird about that
[09:48] <popey> You don't want that
[09:48] <ogra_> popey, he said so above :)
[09:48] <nhaines> I am.
[09:48] <nhaines> But *yesterday* it was vivid.
[09:48] <popey> Working as designed then.
[09:48] <popey> unlikely.
[09:48] <ogra_> i'm not sure you can use the terminal without pin/password ... but if you can, the passwd command would do
[09:49] <ogra_> (to set a pin)
[09:49] <popey> haha, my krillin has been on for 4 days, still 70% charge
[09:49] <ogra_> popey, yeah, and next time you charge it it only survives 30h
[09:50] <ogra_> for me its been on and off recently :(
[09:50] <popey> odd
[09:50] <popey> ah, new mvm update, mine won't last long now
[09:50] <dkessel> ogra_: so i would just type the PIN as the password for passwd?
[09:50] <ogra_> sometimes it doesnt discharge at all, sometimes it doesnt survive 2 days
[09:50] <nhaines> Yay, password removed.
[09:50] <ogra_> dkessel, yes, thats what the backend does ... your prob will be that there is more to it
[09:51] <ogra_> if anything needs to know about pin vs password, thats set in a debus service somewhere
[09:51] <ogra_> *dbus
[09:51] <larsu> deebus
[09:51] <ogra_> lol
[09:51] <dkessel> dkessel: ok, so now it is working after using passwd
[09:52] <dkessel> still, it wourld not be working out of the box with r214 :p
[09:52] <larsu> larsu: I think dkessel is talking to himself
[09:52] <nhaines> larsu: that's not so strange. But if he answers back, start to back away slowly.
[09:52] <dkessel> lol
[09:52] <larsu> haha
[09:53] <dkessel> larsu: oops. thats the problem with identical first names with d holbach :)
[09:53] <larsu> one of you change it. Quick!
[09:55] <nhaines> popey: devel/ubuntu on Nexus 7 only has two images.
[10:11] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: that failing test in the keyboard navigation branch is really odd. i am trying to run back the changes one commit at a time to see what is causing it, as i have exhausted all other options
[10:23] <Mirv> oSoMoN: how's the current webbrowser-app private headers usage status in wily, I haven't followed for a while?
[10:26] <oSoMoN> Mirv, still in use for the DirectionalDragArea component, but there’s been progress on this front, the unity8 team has been working on refactoring it with the goal to move it to the UITK
[10:28] <Mirv> oSoMoN: thanks checking since I'm finally approaching some sort of success with qt 5.5 beta
[10:28] <Mirv> so I'll rebuild webbrowser too
[10:29] <Mirv> I'm pretty interested if anything works or not... and if stuff works I'll go through the currently filed 5.5 bugs again and confirm them
[11:05] <Mirv> Elleo: hey, could we land the bug #1437182 to wily?
[11:05] <Mirv> so that I could more easily test Qt 5.5 in PPA
[11:08] <Elleo> Mirv: yeah, that patch has actually been accepted upstream now; so might be worth syncing the package from upstream? rsalveti has been maintaining that package most recently, so probably best to get his view on it
[11:11] <Mirv> Elleo: oh, that's excellent! I'm not sure how available rsalveti is though atm for extra work.
[11:12] <Mirv> Elleo: would you be ok running whatever tests you run on a maliit-framework if I uploaded an update with the 014 patch?
[11:12] <Mirv> (to a silo)
[11:13] <Elleo> Mirv: sure
[12:10] <ahoneybun> mhall119: does your N4 randomly vibrate ?
[12:42] <Mirv> Elleo: https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-031/ is now ready for testing on wily. when you have time for it, just ping me afterwards if testing is ok and I can publish it.
[12:51] <Elleo> Mirv: okay, will do :)
[12:58] <kenvandine> jgdx, great to see that you finished the todo list for the APN editor!
[12:59] <kenvandine> jgdx, but we don't want to land it yet until the NetworkManager, nuntium and ofono fixes are ready right?
[13:01] <kenvandine> jgdx, any idea what's up with those ap failures? some of them are from cellular and phone, and the security panel tests that failed are from the sim pin code, which borrows from cellular
[13:02] <jgdx> kenvandine, no, it would make for a sweet but nonfunctional ui
[13:02] <jgdx> kenvandine, not yet
[13:04] <kenvandine> the previous revision passed though
[13:04] <jgdx> kenvandine, you know if the tasks you mentioned are tracked?
[13:04] <kenvandine> so maybe flaky :(
[13:04] <kenvandine> not sure
[13:04] <kenvandine> they are on the punch list :)
[13:04] <kenvandine> not sure about bugs
[13:04] <jgdx> kenvandine, that kinda flakyness smells like dbus
[13:04] <kenvandine> it can be stinky
[13:04] <jgdx> I'll take a look at the cleanup, maybe there's something we're doing wrong
[13:06] <kenvandine> jgdx, cool
[13:06] <kenvandine> jgdx, i'm reviewing your branch now
[13:07] <jgdx> kenvandine, you okay with leaving the debug info in until we're go for landing?
[13:07] <kenvandine> jgdx, you should update the MP description and commit message though
[13:07] <jgdx> *debug code
[13:07] <kenvandine> yes... i just won't approve it yet
[13:07] <jgdx> thanks
[13:07] <kenvandine> i'll comment on other things i find though
[14:17] <rbnmaia> hello guys
[14:35] <jgdx> kenvandine, right, there's some unintuitive code handling ConnMan while resetting the APN configuration. I've made comments, but in case it is not clear: If cellular data is ON we can't reset, so we turn it OFF. After a reset is complete, we restore the cellular data setting.
[14:36] <jgdx> ResetContexts is sync in libqofono for this to work
[14:36] <jgdx> kenvandine, also, 100% pass rate on silo 33 on a krillin
[14:42] <kenvandine> jgdx, cool!
[15:25] <seb128> kenvandine, jgdx, can you review https://code.launchpad.net/~seb128/ubuntu-system-settings/visible-file-exists/+merge/261096 ? trying to land that to wily to unblock the snappy desktop image build (u-s-s currently depends on system-image-dbus and s-i conflicts with snappy so apt bails out)
[15:26] <seb128> kenvandine, jgdx, https://code.launchpad.net/~seb128/ubuntu-system-settings/battery-rendering-glitches/+merge/260991 should be trivial if you want to ack that as well while you are at reviewing ;-)
[15:30] <kenvandine> seb128, will do
[15:31] <kenvandine> seb128, the visible-file-exists branch looks good but i haven't tested it... i assume you did?
[15:32] <seb128> kenvandine, yes
[15:32] <kenvandine> ok, i'll trust you instead of waiting for debs :)
[15:32] <kenvandine> it looks safe
[15:33] <seb128> kenvandine, thanks
[15:33] <seb128> it's also wily only ;-)
[15:33] <seb128> I'm going to silo test before landing anyway
[15:34] <kenvandine> approved
[15:34] <seb128> thanks
[15:34] <seb128> kenvandine, want to review the other 1 liner as well?
[15:34] <seb128> or I can keep that for another latter landing
[15:35] <kenvandine> the brightness one?
[15:35] <kenvandine> i did already :)
[15:35] <seb128> kenvandine, no, the battery graph one
[15:35] <seb128> oh, you did :-)
[15:35] <seb128> kenvandine, thanks
[15:35] <kenvandine> np
[16:57] <brunch875> Is there a way to uninstall scopes?
[16:57] <brunch875> The reddit scope doesn't load anything...
[17:03] <dobey> brunch875: find it in the store, and you can uninstall the package from its preview there
[17:07] <cwayne1> reddit scope isnt actually installed on the device though
[17:07] <cwayne1> its a remote scope
[17:08] <mariogrip> abeato and awe, i'm still struggling with ofono... awe, I got the OEM_HOOK_RAW to send with correct parcel, but it require a oem command but of what i understand it does not seem like android is sending an command id. I'm just wondering if you can take a look at this and maybe make some sense out of why radio start is UNAVAILABLE. this is what RIL.java is
[17:08] <mariogrip> requesting before it turns on radio http://paste.ubuntu.com/11569119/ I cannot see any reason for radio state to be UNAVAILABLE, so i'm kinda lost... full android log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11569215/ full ofono log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11569264/
[17:10] <awe> mariogrip, this is a GSM phone, correct?
[17:11] <awe> mariogrip, so basically you're issue is you still can't get the phone to come online properly, correct?
[17:11] <awe> it might be worth filing an ofono bug, just as a convient place to put the RIL logs for both Android and ofono
[17:12] <awe> mariogrip, do you have the capability to build a CM image for the phone? It appears the Android traces you're providing are just radio logcat output
[17:13] <awe> which are a bit hard to follow for the sake of tracing RIL requests/replies
[17:21] <mariogrip> awe: I can build CM for the phone
[17:21] <mariogrip> yeah, they are logcat output
[17:21] <mariogrip> with rild set to debug
[17:22] <awe> you'll get a better RIL trace by enabling the tracing in libril.cpp
[17:22] <awe> it'll show request, replies, and parameters for each
[17:23] <awe> brb
[17:28] <nico_rikken> Just a small question: Does the BQ (old or new) come with an unlockeable bootloader, so I can flash my own (free/libre) firmware?
[18:19] <peat-psuwit> Can Ubuntu touch play video from URL?
[18:22] <dobey> peat-psuwit: the media player just plays URLs, for local files it uses video:/// URLs i think.
[18:23] <peat-psuwit> dobey: How? Browser?
[18:25] <dobey> i'm not sure i understand what you're asking
[18:25] <dobey> jhodapp: ^^ maybe you can provide better answers here? :)
[18:26] <peat-psuwit> Ex: Play this URL in Ubuntu touch http://live.thairath.co.th/trtv2/playlist.m3u8
[18:26] <kenvandine> bfiller, Elleo: for handling "all" types, we really only want source apps to register as providing "all" right? we shouldn't have share and import handlers registering as "all"?
[18:26] <jhodapp> peat-psuwit, that's Apple's HTTP Live Streaming and not supported yet
[18:26] <jhodapp> peat-psuwit, there's gstreamer plugins for it, but it's not been tested on a UT device yet
[18:27] <kenvandine> bfiller, Elleo: although registering as an import handler for "all" would be nice for handling the download of unknown types
[18:27] <jhodapp> peat-psuwit, it's not difficult to support, just not yet
[18:28] <peat-psuwit> jhodapp: Oh, Ok then. How about progressive one? ex: http://download.blender.org/peach/bigbuckbunny_movies/big_buck_bunny_720p_h264.mov
[18:30] <Elleo> kenvandine: wouldn't destination apps need to be able to register as all for when legacy apps are saving things?
[18:31] <kenvandine> actually the other way around
[18:31] <kenvandine> no... hmm
[18:31] <jhodapp> peat-psuwit, what do you mean...that specific video file doesn't play?
[18:32] <kenvandine> Elleo, opening a file saved by a legacy app would be looking for a source for "all"
[18:32] <kenvandine> not a dest
[18:33] <kenvandine> but it could be interesting handling all for dest, it could be used for downloading unknown types
[18:33] <kenvandine> and... possibly the whole idea of piping content through a middle app
[18:34] <peat-psuwit> jhodapp: It seems like the whole file have to be downloaded first. Can't it be streamed?
[18:34] <jhodapp> peat-psuwit, should be able to be streamed...you're trying with mediaplayer-app?
[18:35] <kenvandine> Elleo, so maybe dest and source but not share
[18:38] <peat-psuwit> jhodapp: I pasted the URL in browser, expecting it to be opened in media player. But the "Open file" appeared and only "Gallery" is available.
[18:39] <peat-psuwit> jhodapp: After pressing that, the entry appear in "Files" indicator.
[18:39] <jhodapp> peat-psuwit, yeah I doubt that would work since the browser currently has no notion of media except for its internal software-based pipeline...this should be able to act more like you'd expect with media-hub integration (in the works now)
[18:40] <jhodapp> peat-psuwit, but check with the web browser guys as we might at least be able to get it to bring up mediaplayer-app
[18:42] <peat-psuwit> jhodapp: filling a bug?
[18:42] <jhodapp> peat-psuwit, yeah that'd be a start
[18:42] <peat-psuwit> jhodapp: Ok.
[18:43] <peat-psuwit> jhodapp: BTW, doesn't browser use GStreamer?
[18:43] <jhodapp> peat-psuwit, no, it has it's own GStreamer equivalent and ffmpeg-based codecs
[18:47] <studio_> hi
[18:49] <nico_rikken> So my retry: Just a small question: Does the BQ (old or new) come with an unlockeable bootloader, so I can flash my own (free/libre) firmware?
[18:50] <studio_> sturmflut was searching for a dlna-player for ubuntu touch. what about "xupnpd"? if the media-player can handle m3u xupnpd should work as a dlna-client.
[18:51] <dobey> media-player doesn't need to handle m3u playlists to have a dlna client
[18:52] <dobey> someone just needs to write a dlna client app that passes the video urls to media player
[18:52] <studio_> dobey, that is, what xupnpd made, a simple m3u
[18:53] <dobey> i don't know what xupnpd is, but the ending 'd' implies it is not a client, but a server
[18:55] <studio_> you can use xupnpd also as "server", but i am using it for to grab external links (iptv).
[18:56] <studio_> http://xupnpd.org/t/
[18:57] <peat-psuwit> jhodapp: I think I know why that video URL doesn't play. That server doesn't set Content-Type properly. just tested another URL and that plays smoothly in browser.
[19:06] <jhodapp> peat-psuwit, ah good to know, same happens in the browser on Ubuntu desktop so sounds like it's not a bug in the browser after all
[19:06] <studio_> dobey, is the media-player now able to play external audio or video streams, if yes, on what version?
[19:07] <studio_> i mean via m3u
[19:08] <dobey> why do you need m3u?
[19:09] <dobey> playlist != stream
[19:09] <studio_> for iptv and internet radio
[19:11] <studio_> also for "internal" tv and radio from my sat receivers, they also offer m3u for casting video and audio streams
[19:12] <dobey> ok, that is not dlna
[19:12] <dobey> if you mean m3u, say m3u. dlna is something else.
[19:12] <studio_> no
[19:13] <studio_> m3u is just the playlist
[19:13] <studio_> what the dlna client can handle
[19:13] <dobey> yes, an m3u is a playlist
[19:13] <dobey> it has nothing to do with dlna itself
[19:15] <studio_> so, how to stream, for exp. from an dlna-server, what is offering m3u-playlists or an dlna-client, what is offering m3u-urls for a single program?
[19:16] <popey> studio_: port an existing app or write a new one
[19:16] <studio_> popey, please, have a look at xupnpd, i am using it since years.
[19:17] <popey> thats a media server, not client
[19:17] <studio_> it is a client
[19:17] <studio_> also
[19:17] <studio_> you can simple configure the lua's
[19:18] <popey> I'm not particularly interested in that. I use mediatomb and xbmc/kodi
[19:18] <studio_> and it is much better than djmount
[19:19] <studio_> kodi on ubuntu touch would be nice !!!
[19:22] <studio_> popey, how did you run kodi on ubuntu touch?
[19:22] <popey> i haven't
[19:23] <studio_> so, therefore i made an offer for an working dlna-client under arm
[19:23] <popey> you're porting one?
[19:25] <studio_> not me, but coolstream, raspberry and openwrt made that
[19:27] <dobey> the app itself could parse the m3u and then pass the URLs along to media-hub.
[19:27] <dobey> you just need to write an app to do it
[19:28] <brunch875> it seems like the meizu's locked so it cannot be flashed
[19:28] <brunch875> that's something terrible
[19:28] <studio_> dobey, i don't understand, i thought m3u is a new feature?
[19:28] <dobey> brunch875: all retail phones come with locked boot loaders
[19:29] <dobey> studio_: m3u is a simple file format. it's a plain text file with a list of URLs
[19:29] <studio_> dobey, yes, i know.
[19:29] <dobey> m3u support might eventually get added to media-hub or media-player, but there is nothing preventing your app from doing the parsing of such a file, and then passing the resulting media URLs on to media-hub
[19:30] <studio_> so what kind or url's in the new feature are supported, only "local files"?
[19:31] <studio_> or=of
[19:32] <brunch875> I don't know much about it, but as I can see on the mailing list ubuntu-device-flash fails on the meizu whereas I succeeded on my BQ
[19:32] <dobey> i don't know what you mean by "in the new feature"
[19:33] <dobey> afaik, http/https urls will play fine in media-hub
[19:34] <dobey> brunch875: i guess you used the alternate recovery image to do that?
[19:34] <popey> brunch875: the person on the list didn't buy an ubuntu one though
[19:34] <brunch875> oooh!
[19:34] <studio_> exp.: http://linuxg.net/the-ubuntu-touch-ota-4-update-will-bring-important-new-features/
[19:35] <popey> brunch875: so not so terrible, and no more terrible than every other phone
[19:35] <brunch875> dobey: I yesterday changed to the RC channel to enjoy dem' updates
[19:37] * brunch875 is off for dinner
[19:37] <dobey> studio_: well if m3u is supported then try it out
[19:37] <studio_> dobey, i was reading, that one person, who tested an m3u, told, that his browser opened the stream. i thing this is not correct, normally a media-player should be opened ...
[19:37] <dobey> i don't know how that person tested the m3u
[19:38] <dobey> you should probably ask that one person rather than asking arbitrarily obscure questions in here
[19:38] <studio_> that person was on the original channel for the bq E4.5
[19:38] <studio_> therefore i asked, on what channel is m3u working
[19:38] <dobey> if that person was usilng the stable channel, then that person obviously doesn't have m3u support
[19:39] <dobey> it would be on the rc-proposed channel i would guess
[19:39] <studio_> ok
[19:39] <dobey> at least if it "will be in ota 4" then that means it will be in the update that switches to vivid, which would currently be the rc-proposed channel afaik
[19:44] <popey> studio_: just tried an m3u8 file and it didn't work
[19:45] <popey> tried http://jblive.videocdn.scaleengine.net/jb-live/play/jblive.stream/playlist.m3u8
[19:45] <popey> browser prompted to "open with" but had nothing that could open those files
[19:46] <studio_> popey, i don't know if "m3u8" is supported by ubuntu touch. a normal m3u should work, does it?
[19:46] <dobey> m3u8 doesn't work
[19:46] <popey> give me an example m3u
[19:46] <studio_> wait
[19:46] <popey> found one http://twit.am/listen.m3u
[19:47] <dobey> hmm, di.fm seems to not have an m3u link that is obvious any more. all their channels seem to want to play in-browser
[19:47] <studio_> make a "ondalatina.m3u" with "#EXTM3U
[19:47] <studio_> #EXTINF:0,lautfm - ondalatina
[19:47] <studio_> http://stream.laut.fm:80/ondalatina"
[19:48] <popey> no, it doesn't work
[19:48] <popey> launches music app which cannot handle those files
[19:48] <dobey> the # lines are irrelevant
[19:48] <dobey> popey: i guess music-app can't play streams yet?
[19:48] <popey> correct
[19:48] <popey> it only plays local music
[19:49] <studio_> ok
[19:51] <studio_> so icecast is also not working
[19:52] <popey> yup
[19:56] <studio_> ok, seem it needs to have more time, i know, i am too much impatient ... :(
[19:58] <jimcornette> Hello there I have a simple question about qt5 in 12.04. I have a autobuilder network and when I try to build apps against it I am running into big issues with the ppa that is for 12.04. I have added the ppa but when I go to build it c an not pull in things like libqt5qml5 and many others
[20:00] <jimcornette> so all the packages fail. So is there another repo ? or do I have to backport qt5 in full? If this is the case is there a command to get all source code for qt5 ? apt-get source <all of qt5> then I guess I will have to build that on my autobuilder and push to repo so that I can build my apps
[20:01] <jimcornette> the ppa that I am talking about is ubuntu-sdk-team/ppa
[20:03] <dobey> jimcornette: i'm not quite sure what you're trying to do, but 12.04 is not a supported phone target
[20:07] <jimcornette> dobey, So I have a autobuilder (sbuild,schroots,databases ect) these are on cronjobs but when it try's to build any qt5 application that is in the autobuilder network It fails because it can not get any of the qt5 libs. so just wondering if I have to backport all of it.
[20:08] <dobey> jimcornette: yes. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtbase-opensource-src does not show precise as having qt5
[20:09] <jimcornette> cool and thanks. !!
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2024-05-13T22:11:36.730221
| 2015-06-04T00:00:00 |
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2015-06-04-#ubuntu-mir
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[00:36] <RAOF> infinity: Huh, sorry. I didn't notice us adding that to Build-Deps. :(
[00:36] <RAOF> Grr, wireless.
[00:37] <infinity> RAOF: Oh hai.
[00:37] * RAOF has just given up on working out why wifi is continuously associationg and disassociating and has just gone cat5
[00:37] <infinity> RAOF: BTW, I'm about to push an MP to build on PPC. I assume that even if that lands on trunk, if I want this in the distro in a timely fashion, I need to land it elsewhere too?
[00:38] <RAOF> That's... a fair question.
[00:38] <RAOF> I think you actually just want to land on trunk and do a manual upload to distro.
[00:38] <infinity> RAOF: I can just upload directly, of course, but since it touches the orig, that's a bit annoying.
[00:39] <infinity> Well, annoying if someone else does something goofy on top.
[00:39] <infinity> But yeah, I can just do that.
[00:39] <RAOF> You shouldn't *need* to touch the .orig, right? It should be patchable.
[00:40] <RAOF> But trunk→distro is a fair distance for us.
[00:40] <RAOF> Or, at least, is a manual step.
[00:40] <infinity> RAOF: No, I need to re-roll the orig because of the stupid binary data in the testsuite.
[00:40] <infinity> RAOF: Which I've already done, FWIW, so no big deal.
[00:41] <RAOF> Copy it from debian/ :) ?
[00:41] <infinity> RAOF: So, uhm. Gross.
[00:41] <RAOF> :P
[00:41] <infinity> RAOF: Oh, and still wouldn't work, cause it's a v1 package.
[00:41] <infinity> RAOF: If diff can't represent it, you lose.
[00:41] <RAOF> Seriously? We don't set v3? Sadface.
[00:41] <RAOF> Yeah, the binary data is somewhat annoying, but I don't see a way around it.
[00:42] <infinity> RAOF: It's not world-ending.
[00:42] <infinity> RAOF: In another MP, I might add a few more Debian arches (ppc64, s390x, etc) for potential future-proofing.
[00:43] <RAOF> AlbertA: Have you rolled 0.13.2 yet? Could we roll infinity's changes into it for convenience?
[00:45] <infinity> RAOF: https://code.launchpad.net/~adconrad/mir/powerpc-porting/+merge/261055
[00:46] <infinity> RAOF: And, of course, I'd love to do a direct upload, but it'll end up dep-wait because of your new build-dep. Grr.
[00:46] <infinity> I guess I can cheat with a PPA, since that's how you guys got it in there in the first place. :P
[00:47] <RAOF> Oh, ooooh.
[00:47] <RAOF> Yay multiple parallel semi-synched processes!
[00:51] <infinity> RAOF: Hrm. Now that I think about future-proofing, I should probably invert pretty much every arch spec in there.
[00:52] <infinity> RAOF: As in, x86 and armhf are actually the unique snowflakes, and linux-any should be the norm.
[00:52] <RAOF> Yeah.
[00:52] <infinity> RAOF: But I can worry about that when I add more arches later.
[00:52] <RAOF> I've also added a todo card to make the testsuite not fail on archs we don't have a lib$ARCH.so for, which should make adding more archs easier.
[00:53] <RAOF> We can then opportunistically add lib$ARCH.so blobs.
[00:54] <infinity> RAOF: Would be slick if the test code was generated on the fly based on `ls -1 test_data/*.so` so enabling that test was just a matter of dropping the blob in without editing code.
[00:54] <infinity> RAOF: Then, on arches that don't ship the blob, you could just generate one on the fly.
[00:54] <RAOF> infinity: Actually, we could always generate one on the fly...
[00:54] <infinity> RAOF: Right, you can generate one on the fly, but see the note about the code needing manual mangling right now. :)
[00:55] <RAOF> Yeah.
[00:55] <infinity> RAOF: Fix the code to be dynamic based on the available content, then make the testsuite depend on libarch.so with a rule to make it if it doesn't exist, and done.
[00:55] <infinity> RAOF: THen someone can just add them later.
[00:56] <RAOF> Oh, by the way, what are our big-endian failures? I thought we were paying attention to endianness :(
[00:56] <infinity> RAOF: Anyhow, I think I'll build this in a clean PPA and copy it in, and let you guys deal with the fallout, since I have no clue how you go from bzr to distro branches to uploads.
[00:57] <RAOF> Convolutedly.
[00:57] <infinity> RAOF: There's one function that no one ported, and intentionally bails because of it.
[00:57] <infinity> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mir-team/mir/development-branch/view/head:/src/server/scene/gl_pixel_buffer.cpp#L59
[00:58] <RAOF> Oh, hah.
[00:58] <RAOF> At least it fails at compile time, then :)
[00:58] <infinity> RAOF: It's probably not hard to port, but I imagine it might take pen and paper and a bit of thought.
[00:58] <infinity> RAOF: No, it compiles fine. Just fails the testsuite.
[00:58] <RAOF> Hm, no. At least it dies at runtime rather than giving incorrect results.
[01:01] <infinity> RAOF: Also, my OpenGL is weak, but I vaguely recall that it's little-endian across the board (much like network is always big-endian), so it's really just a matter of GL<->host swaps if you intend to operate on things using the host CPU.
[01:01] <infinity> RAOF: At least, that sounds like a familiar thing from a past life.
[01:05] * infinity double-checks there's no taint in his PPA and uploads the wily package.
[01:08] <RAOF> That's the class that's doing GPU→CPU translation, so it does actually need some work. :)
[01:09] <infinity> RAOF: Oh, also, not sure who maintains the toolkit integration bits (eg: gtk3 links to libmirclient), but enabling that on powerpc while Mir is known-broken might be dumb. ;)
[01:10] <RAOF> It'd actually be fine - that's a server-side issue, and all the toolkit integration is client-side.
[01:10] <infinity> Oh, that's good news.
[01:10] <RAOF> So it'd be not very useful, because no-one could run ppc GTK against a Mir server, but it'd equally be harmless.
[01:40] <infinity> RAOF: Right, if the client stuff is all harmless, then I guess once this lands, we can slowly stop arch-restricting the world.
[01:40] <RAOF> Yes.
[01:40] <infinity> RAOF: And put "fix the endian bug" on the TODO before someone decides a Mir server on a BE arch is fun.
[01:41] <RAOF> armhfbe!
[01:43] <infinity> RAOF: Well, I intend to sent a followup to enable ppc64 and s390x at some point. At which point, I'll switch that testsuite-disabling to check for DEB_HOST_ARCH_ENDIAN instead of DEB_HOST_ARCH, and clean everything up so that !x86/!armhf is the norm, and those unique snowflakes get their own brand of special.
[01:43] <infinity> s/sent/send./
[01:43] <infinity> RAOF: So, then we'll have 3 BE arches.
[01:44] <RAOF> And I'll have the testsuite do the generate-a-dso thing soon.
[01:44] <infinity> RAOF: Sure. Doesn't block me doing those two, since I'll generate the .so on Debian porter boxes, but still nice future-proofing.
[01:45] <infinity> Actually, I may as well just add all the Debian non-ports arches while I'm in there.
[01:46] <infinity> So, armel, mips, mipsel, s390s, sparc, ppc64.
[01:46] <infinity> I assume Mir is Linux-specific, and attempting to build it on kfreebsd or hurd would end in tears?
[01:49] <bschaefer> make snap fails in lp:mir :(
[01:50] <bschaefer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11554636/
[01:55] <infinity> mir_0.14.0_amd64.snap: FAIL
[01:55] <infinity> Generated 'mir_0.14.0_amd64.snap' snap
[01:55] <infinity> Brilliant.
[01:55] <infinity> IT BROKE, HERE'S A PACKAGE.
[01:57] <bschaefer> infinity, yeah haha i tried installing it as well
[01:57] <RAOF> :)
[01:57] <RAOF> I think deb2snap is a better bet for the moment.
[01:57] <bschaefer> it didnt install anything that i could find haha
[01:58] <bschaefer> RAOF, i was just trying the 0.12 branch
[01:58] <bschaefer> if that fails... ill look into that :)
[01:58] <RAOF> infinity: We use epoll and such; it's linux-any, yes.
[01:58] <bschaefer> eek 0.12 doesnt have snappy in ith
[01:58] <bschaefer> it*
[01:59] * bschaefer tries copying lp:mir snap
[02:00] <infinity> RAOF: Kay, noted. Next time I'm bored, I'll submit that MP to enable it on effectively all linux-any, then.
[02:01] <RAOF> bschaefer: deb2snap; it's how we built the demo snap.
[02:01] <bschaefer> RAOF, o nice, yeah just saw it https://launchpad.net/deb2snap
[02:01] <bschaefer> RAOF, hopefully it still works :)
[02:01] <RAOF> It worked a couple of days ago :)
[02:01] <bschaefer> RAOF, excellent :)
[02:01] <bschaefer> thanks!
[02:12] <infinity> RAOF: Other than fixing the testsuite and adding blobs (I'll whip those up later), this looks like it should fix the arch brain damage: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11555020/
[02:13] <RAOF> WTF is install_ld_so_conf.sh there for?
[02:13] <infinity> RAOF: ellifiknow.
[02:14] <RAOF> I'm *pretty* sure that's unnecessary now.
[02:14] <infinity> RAOF: rgrep doesn't seem to find any references to it...
[02:15] <RAOF> Hm. I guess we just didn't delete the various workaround helpers when we fixed the platform loading code.
[02:17] <infinity> RAOF: Well, I'll leave that to you to delete. :P
[02:17] <RAOF> Yeah, will do.
[02:17] <infinity> RAOF: I'll push this as a formal MP after the current one's merged, and once I get a bunch of blobs and twiddle the testsuite to match them.
[02:18] <RAOF> I'll be proposing the dynamic blob generation before you do.
[02:18] <RAOF> (It's almost finished)
[02:18] <infinity> RAOF: Including dynamic code? Shiny.
[02:18] <RAOF> Yeah. The dynamic code is done, just need the cmakery to generate libARCH.so
[02:19] <infinity> RAOF: When I see that land, then, I'll push this, and we'll call it good. Ulterior motive on my part, since there may be some new ports coming up soon, and I *hate* dealing with arch-restricted nonsense when bootstrapping the world.
[02:19] <infinity> And Mir has weaseled its way pretty low in the stack by now.
[02:19] <RAOF> Who'd've thought the display server would be low in the stack! :P
[02:28] <infinity> RAOF: Okay, screw it, if you're fixing the test, I pushed the rest just now.
[02:28] <infinity> RAOF: If you need to re-ACK the MP or something.
[02:28] <RAOF> Will do.
[02:31] <bschaefer> :(, cant find libmirclient8.so hmm o well time to eod
[02:38] <infinity> RAOF: And hacked up build on all arches copied to wily-proposed.
[02:38] <infinity> tedg: ^
[02:48] <tedg> Cool!
[02:49] <infinity> tedg: I retried the builds in silo 008. Was that the ones you needed?
[02:49] <tedg> Yup, it is.
[02:49] <infinity> Alright. We'll see how they fare.
[02:49] <tedg> Oh, you did it in the PPA. I was looking at the dashboard :-)
[02:49] <tedg> Thanks infinity!
[02:50] <infinity> tedg: Yeah, I don't believe in this bizarre "reupload the source and force rebuilds on all arches" madness when I have a nice "retry" button for individual builds. :P
[02:51] <infinity> Oh, pay-service depends on app-launch. Guess I need to wait a bit and hit more buttons. ;)
[02:51] <infinity> But app-launch built, so that's a good sign.
[02:54] <RAOF> Stupid damn cmake.
[03:01] <infinity> RAOF: But cmake is the way and the light, or something.
[03:15] <infinity> RAOF: Oh, and I know we got all sidetracked and such, but someone still needs to file that abi-checky-thingee MIR.
[04:52] <infinity> RAOF: Once jenkins is happy, does a human need to intervene to do the actual merge, or does something magical happen?
[05:27] <RAOF> infinity: Automerge once someone hits the Accepted status on the top.
[05:28] <RAOF> ...which I'll do once I've re-reviewed it.
[05:29] <RAOF> And done.
[05:35] <infinity> RAOF: Ta.
[06:32] <RAOF> infinity: Oh, you seem like the sort of person who knows this arcana:
[06:32] <RAOF> How does one re-export a symbol with a different version?
[06:33] <RAOF> (In the case of moving a symbol versioned LIB_A_1 to libb, a dependency of liba)
[06:38] <RAOF> infinity: unping, the answer turns out to be obivous.
[07:18] <duflu> Holy crap. FreeSync monitors exist. In my local store even! https://www.ple.com.au/ViewItem.aspx?InventoryItemId=617352
[07:18] <duflu> This affects my choice of algorithm
[09:58] * alan_g finds https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity8inLXC and thinks it would be cool to set up a similar ppa for mir_demo_server et alia
[10:57] <Mirv> greyback: bug #1403758 for quick overview. comments #6 and #8 have copy-pasted IRC logs
[11:00] <greyback> Mirv: interesting, ta
[13:23] <alan_g> alf_: could you review a small refactoring in USC? https://code.launchpad.net/~alan-griffiths/unity-system-compositor/decouple-WindowManager-from-DMMessageHandler/+merge/260979
[13:29] <alf_> alan_g: done
[13:38] <alan_g> alf_: is that even better?
[14:03] <kdub> we now have next_buffer, exchange_buffer, and 'the new buffer semantics'... pondering whether to deprecate next_buffer in this process
[14:04] <kdub> and even exchange_buffer and 'new buffer semantics' are incompatible with working at the same time, even
[14:23] * alan_g knows the feeling: "I wouldn't start from here if I were you".
[14:41] <AlbertA> RAOF: yeah mir 0.13.2 is already pending on QA approval
[16:39] <alan_g> kdub: I'm seeking GL advice again: I've done something daft but can't see what. (Confused color and alpha channels I think.) Could you look at why the spinner looks weird: lp:~alan-griffiths/unity-system-compositor/incorporate-logo-into-spinner-binary (You can run this bin/unity-system-compositor-spinner as a Mir client, no need to mess with USC - the old one needed pngs installed)
[16:40] <kdub> alan_g, sure
[16:47] <kdub> alan_g, just figuring out the fastest way to cross compile :)
[16:48] <alan_g> kdub: I just build and run on the desktop
[16:49] <kdub> yeah, probably will go faster, trying that
[17:02] <alan_g> kdub: gotta go but will pick up again in morning. If you spot my idiocy let me know, if not thanks for looking.
[17:02] <kdub> alan_g|EOD, sure, no problem
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2015-06-04-#ubuntu-ko
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[00:14] <autowiz> 좋은 하루들 되세요~~~~
[00:23] <jun> 안녕하세요~~~~
[00:23] <jun> 메르스로 불안한 목요일임돠~
[00:34] <samahui_ws> 라디오에 나온 전문가의 말도 일리가 있네요
[00:35] <samahui_ws> 아무리 독해도 감기 독감이니... 치료제를 만들어봐야 투자금대비 수익이 없을꺼 같아서 (사스건 조류독감이건 1년정도 지나고 사라져버리다싶이해버렸죠)
[00:35] <samahui_ws> 개발에 적극적이지 않아서 치료제 개발이 늦는거라네요
[00:35] <samahui_ws> 일반적 독감 치사율 비슷한 수준이고
[00:36] <samahui_ws> 뭐 아무튼 너무 안일하게 대처한건 정부의 잘못이지만... 너무 겁먹고 할 일도 아니라네요
[00:36] <autowiz> 뭐 저는 전혀 무섭지 않습니다.
[00:36] <samahui_ws> 죽은사람도 대부분 원래 지병이 있던 그것도 악화되어있던 사람들이고
[00:36] <samahui_ws> 그래도 전 아기 떔시 걱정이고 무섭내요 ㅎㅎ
[00:36] <autowiz> 의료진감염이 좀 우려되긴 합니다.
[00:36] <autowiz> 잠복기가 있다보니
[00:37] <samahui_ws> 다른걸 다 떠나서
[00:37] <samahui_ws> 병원이라도 공개하고 조심시키면 아무 문제 없을것을
[00:37] <autowiz> 감염 매체가 있을텐데요
[00:37] <samahui_ws> 괜시리 일 키우고 있죠... 정부가 뭐 감추고 싶은게 있나 왜 저러나 모르겠네요
[00:38] <autowiz> 병원 공개하면 그 병원은 개점휴업 되지 않냐는 말도 있더라구요
[00:38] <bluedusk> samahui_ws, 이번정부가 젤 잘하는 일이잖아요
[00:38] <Work^Seony> 아직 300만명 안찍어서 그럴 거에ㅛ
[00:38] <bluedusk> 일단 뭐든 감추는거
[00:38] <autowiz> 블더님 안녕하세요
[00:38] <bluedusk> autowiz, 안녕하세요
[00:38] <samahui_ws> 병원 개점 휴업되더라도 국민이 건강해야죠
[00:38] <bluedusk> autowiz, 시스템에 context switch 가 넘 많은데 이걸 어케 해야 할까요?
[00:38] <autowiz> cpu 쪽이요?
[00:38] <Work^Seony> 의사쌤들만 메르스에 감염된다면? 아님 높으신 분들만 메르스에 감염된다면?
[00:39] <autowiz> 아니면 컨텐츠 쪽인가요? 으음...
[00:39] <bluedusk> Context Switches (/second) Minimum Average Maximum
[00:39] <bluedusk> context_switches 2628.00 7914.88 32793.50
[00:39] <autowiz> 리눅스 인거죠?
[00:40] <bluedusk> 그쵸? 맥이면 Work^Seony 님께 여쭤봤겠죠?
[00:40] <Work^Seony> ㅎㅎ 저도 저런건 잘 몰라요
[00:40] <autowiz> 어떤 용도로 쓰는 서버인가요? 체감상 느린게 느껴질정도인가요?
[00:41] <bluedusk> 그쵸
[00:41] <bluedusk> 체감상 느리니깐 이것저것 모니터링 해보다가 발견한..
[00:41] <autowiz> 원래 그렇게 설계된 프로그램이라서 느린건지 어딘가의 버그인지 찾아봐야 겠네요
[00:41] <autowiz> 저도 저렇게 까지는 잘 안봐서
[00:41] <bluedusk> 평균: 0 10493 2.20 0.00 kworker/0:1
[00:42] <bluedusk> kworker가 제일 많이 발생시키고 있네요.. -_-
[00:42] <autowiz> 공격들어온다거나
[00:42] <bluedusk> 뭐하는놈이지
[00:42] <bluedusk> 제꺼 데탑인데요
[00:42] <bluedusk> 공격들어오지는 않을듯
[00:42] <autowiz> 로컬에서 누가 루트딸려고 익스플로잇 돌리는건 아닐런지 ㅠ
[00:42] <autowiz> 아
[00:42] <autowiz> 블더님 데탑이군요...
[00:42] <autowiz> 인터럽트 쪽 문제가 생기는 경우가 종종 있느데
[00:43] <autowiz> 센토스는 타이머 쪽 문제가 종종 있었고, 우분투는 acpi 쪽 관련
[00:43] <autowiz> noapic , acpi=off ( 부작용도 있긴 합니다만 ) 옵션 주고 테스트를 다시 해보시는것도 방법일거 같습니다.
[00:44] <autowiz> 부팅하자마자 바로그러는지 , 특정 이벤트 후에 그러는지도 관찰해 보셔야 하겠구요
[00:44] <bluedusk> 부팅하자마자 그러지는 않아요
[00:44] <bluedusk> 스왑올라갈때쯤 그러긴 하는데
[00:45] <bluedusk> 뭐 전 컴맹이라 그냥 램 꼽고 쓸려고 봤는데
[00:45] <Work^Seony> 컨텍스트 스위치 상태는 어떤 명령어로 볼 수 있어요?
[00:45] <Work^Seony> perf?
[00:45] <bluedusk> dstat 랑 pidstat 로 봤어요
[00:47] <Work^Seony> dstat -y하니까 두칸짜리가 나오는군요
[00:47] <Work^Seony> int랑 csw
[00:47] <Work^Seony> 뭔지 모르겠는데, 맨페이지를 봐야할듯 싶네요
[00:47] <bluedusk> csw 가
[00:47] <Work^Seony> 아... 인터럽트랑 컨텍스트스위치군요
[00:47] <bluedusk> context switch구요 int가 인터럽트에요
[00:48] <Work^Seony> 그럼 지금 블덕님은 10493 bytes라고 나오시는 거에요?
[00:48] <Work^Seony> 음... 저는 16-21k 나오는데요..
[00:49] <Work^Seony> 음... 근데 하긴 제 데탑은 지금 리붓을 한 번 해줘야할 때긴 하지만..
[00:49] <bluedusk> Work^Seony, 평균량은 4000~ 7000 왔다 갔다 인데 한번씩
[00:49] <bluedusk> 17k~ 39k씩 올라가거든요..
[00:50] <Work^Seony> 저는 평균이 18k인데요 ㅎㅎ
[00:50] <Work^Seony> 음... 제온 e5라고 다 좋진 않구나
[00:50] <Work^Seony> 며칠 전 마트 갔는데, 오예스 고구마맛이 2.99에 팔길래 냉큼 2박스 집어왔습니다 ㅎㅎ
[00:50] <Work^Seony> 울 와이프 말로는, 요즘 한국 과자값이 무지 비싸서 이 정도면 거저라네요
[00:51] <autowiz> 네 한국 안에서도 한국과자 비싸서
[00:51] <bluedusk> Work^Seony, http://lainman82.tistory.com/entry/Context-Switching
[00:51] <autowiz> 외국과자 직구해먹는사람도 있습니다.
[00:51] <Work^Seony> 헐 그 정도군요...
[00:51] <bluedusk> 뭐 여튼 많은게 좋은거 같지 않아서
[00:51] <razGon_MINILA> ㅎㅎㅎ
[00:52] <Work^Seony> 그래도, 딴건 몰라도 고구마만큼은 한국게 제일 맛있어요..
[00:52] <autowiz> 부득이 하게 저런 현상이 생기는 서버일까요? 보통 저런경우 특정 프로세스가 cpu 를 많이 먹을거 같은데요
[00:53] <Work^Seony> 여기 혹시 inotify 관련한 작업 해보신 분 계세요?
[00:54] <bluedusk> 아뇨 전 그런개발을..ㅠㅠ
[00:58] <autowiz> 제 데탑 idle 에서 6k ~ 9k 인데 ls -alR / 하니까
[00:58] <autowiz> 가끔씩 11~ 14k 나오네요
[00:58] <autowiz> 이걸 파일로 떨궈도 같은지 테스트 한번 해봐야겠습니다.
[00:59] <bluedusk> acpi=off 하니깐 확 줄긴 하네요
[00:59] <Work^Seony> 음... 파일 삭제되는 것만 모니터링하게끔 아주 간단한 스크립트를 하나 짰는데, 커널 쪽에서 inotify event가 자꾸 오버플로우라고 떠서요...
[01:00] <bluedusk> 오 역시 능력자시군요
[01:01] <autowiz> 으음...
[01:01] <autowiz> 미천한 저로서는 이해가 못하고 있는 ㅠㅠ
[01:01] <autowiz> 이해를
[01:01] <Work^Seony> 능력자긴요 ㅎㅎ 인터넷에서 찾으면 많이 나와요
[01:01] <bluedusk> 일단 전처럼 컴터 행걸리는것처럼 버벅이는 증상은 없을꺼 같네요
[01:02] <bluedusk> autowiz, 덕분에 좋은거 배웠습니다.
[01:02] <bluedusk> 오늘 트러블슈팅은 여기까지
[01:02] <autowiz> acpi 를 일부만 끄는방법도 있다는데 저도 귀찮아서 잘 .. 정상적인 pc 의 경우 acpi 끄면 퍼포먼스 영향이 생길 수 도 있는데
[01:02] <autowiz> 뭐 일단은 급하게 할 수 있는건 끄는거지요 ㅎㅎ
[01:03] <Work^Seony> 저도 덕분에 좋은거 배웠네요
[01:03] <autowiz> 저는 또 출장 가야하는 ... 아 이제 지겹네요 아주
[01:03] <Work^Seony> acpi 끄면 좀 상태가 이상해질 거에요...
[01:03] <bluedusk> 뭐 배터리 모니터링 안되는거 말고는 없네요
[01:03] <bluedusk> 어차피 acpi는 쓰지 말라고 만들어둔거 아닌가요?
[01:03] <bluedusk> ..............
[01:03] <Work^Seony> ㅎㅎ
[01:04] <Work^Seony> 쿼드코어랑 옥타코어랑 일반 데탑에서 성능차이 많이 안나겠죠?
[01:04] <autowiz> 쿼드는 4개고 옥타는 8시인데 차이가 나지 않을까요? ㅎㅎ
[01:04] <autowiz> 로드가 별로 없으면 못느낄거같긴 합니다만.
[01:04] <Work^Seony> 걍 써봐야 vmware 정도..
[01:05] <bluedusk> 하드가 겁나 느린거라 스왑 올라가면 버벅대긴 하는군요
[01:05] <autowiz> 자금여유가 좀 있으면 저라면 8코어로
[01:05] <Work^Seony> 가격차이가 많이 나더라구요
[01:05] <bluedusk> 아 맥북사야 하는데
[01:05] <Work^Seony> 이번에 외장하드 사는데만 돈이 반백만원 들어가서..
[01:05] <bluedusk> Work^Seony, 님은 교육 종사자라서 교육할인 받으실수 있지 않나요??
[01:06] <Work^Seony> 제온 e5 옥타코어는 이미 백오십만원이 넘고...
[01:06] <autowiz> 블더 : 제 컴은 io wait 가 올라갔을때만 5~10초에 한번씩 csw 11k 찍히네요
[01:06] <Work^Seony> 네 저는 교육할인 받아서 사요
[01:06] <autowiz> 뭐 좀더 보긴 해야겠습니다만.
[01:06] <autowiz> amd 는 어떠신가요?
[01:06] <Work^Seony> 맥프로 살 때 교육할인 받으니까 좀 많이 싸지더라구요...
[01:06] <autowiz> 저는 6코어 4코어 2코어 이렇게 쓰고 있습니다 ㅎㅎ
[01:06] <bluedusk> autowiz, 아 그게 제가 말했던부분은 올라갈부분이 아닌데 갑자기 지 혼자 올라가서 순간적으로 컴터거 버벅거리는 증상때문에 확인한거라서요
[01:07] <Work^Seony> 음... 저는 컴퓨터 가진게 맥프로 뿐이라, 씨퓨는 인텔 아니면 선택의 여지가 없네요 ㅎㅎ
[01:07] <bluedusk> 저도 교육할인 받아서 사야겠네요
[01:07] <autowiz> 아아 맥 이시구나 ㅎㅎ 그냥 4코어로 가시지요~~
[01:08] <ipeter_> ??
[01:08] <ipeter_> 안뇽하세요?
[01:08] <autowiz> 피터님 하이요
[01:10] <bluedusk> 피터님 하이요
[01:11] <jun> 맥북이 좋긴 좋나보네요.. 다들 쓰시는거보니.... 전 엄두가 안나던데;;;;
[01:11] <Work^Seony> 전 맥북이 아닌 맥프로..
[01:11] <autowiz> 갑부 서니님만 ㅎㅎ
[01:11] <bluedusk> 저도 맥프레 노리고 있어요 13인치
[01:11] <bluedusk> 하앜하앜
[01:12] <Work^Seony> 휴지통처럼 생긴 맥프로인데... 맘에 들어요
[01:12] <Work^Seony> 조용하고 발열 거의 없고...
[01:12] <autowiz> 수직으로 쌓을 수 있나요? ㅎㅎ
[01:12] <autowiz> 탑을 만들어보고 싶어요
[01:12] <ipeter_> 갑부...ㅠ
[01:13] <ipeter_> ㅋㅋㅋㅋ
[01:13] <Work^Seony> 뜨거운 공기를 위로 배출해서, 수직으로 쌓으면 안될 거에요 ㅎㅎ
[01:13] <ipeter_> 수업중인데 이렇게 왔습니다.
[01:13] <autowiz> bootp 로 밑에서 부터 하나씩 키는거지요 점점점..
[01:13] <ipeter_> 꼭 사진도 올려주세요..ㅠ
[01:13] <ipeter_> 보고싶네요..ㅠ
[01:13] <ipeter_> 사고 싶은데 돈이 없습니다.
[01:13] <autowiz> 돈이 없으면 돈을 벌면 됩니다. ㅋㅋ
[01:13] <Work^Seony> 사진 올린적 있찌않나요?
[01:13] <ipeter_> 음?!
[01:13] <ipeter_> 그런가요...?!
[01:14] <Work^Seony> 아마 이거일텐데... https://www.dropbox.com/sc/20z0r2sfsx92xc6/AAAFyfVKznufCO1glPD8-FKza
[01:14] <ipeter_> 페북 한번 둘러보겠습니다.
[01:14] <autowiz> 그저 참고 노력하고 정진하면서 살면 그게 기쁨 아니겠습니까 허허허
[01:14] <ipeter_> 허허허
[01:14] <ipeter_> 좋으네요...ㅠ
[01:14] <Work^Seony> 아 이건 모니터만 있네요
[01:14] <Work^Seony> https://www.dropbox.com/sc/krwkxizwxmn7fmv/AAD1ETmWv_ojHGenf1ABfR3ea
[01:14] <Work^Seony> 요게 맥프로
[01:16] <ipeter_> 맥프로...+_+
[01:16] <ipeter_> 허허
[01:16] <Work^Seony> 하지만, 컴퓨터 좋아봐야 그거 갖고 하는 일은 인터넷 하기....
[01:17] <autowiz> 인터넷하면서 코딩하고 , 서버 관리하기
[01:17] <autowiz> ㄷㄷㄷ 부럽
[01:17] <ipeter_> 아...나도 갑부이고 싶어요..
[01:17] <ipeter_> ㅠ
[01:20] <bluedusk> 헐 인터넷하며 코딩 서버 관리라니..;
[01:20] <bluedusk> 전 걍 아얄씨나 하는 o2 -> co2 converter 인데..
[01:21] <bluedusk> 아 Work^Seony 님 혹시 ceph 구성하실때 osd node에 osd 파일시스템 따로 성능 관련 튜닝 하셧어요?
[01:21] <Work^Seony> 아뇨 걍 xfs로 했어요
[01:21] <bluedusk> 이쪽에서 ceph osd disk 교체시에 vm이 행이 걸리는 증상이 있다고 해서..
[01:22] <bluedusk> disk rebalance할때 io가 몰려서 그러는거 같긴 한데 이쪽에서는 rebalance할때 network traffic을 의심하고
[01:23] <Work^Seony> 리밸런싱할 때 네트워크 의존도가 커요. 아마 io보단 트래픽을 좀 더 보셔야할 거에요...
[01:24] <Work^Seony> 오픈스택이랑 ceph 클러스터 업타임이 328일째네요... 리붓 한 번 해줘야할 날이 올텐데 겁나네요 ㅎㅎ
[01:24] <samahui_ws> 모르는척하세요 ㅎㅎ
[01:25] <bluedusk> Work^Seony, 음.. 일단 service랑 replica랑 분리가 안되어 잇긴 한데 통째로 10g를 쓰고 있더라구요..
[01:25] <Work^Seony> 10g면, 속도는 잘나오겠네요
[01:26] <bluedusk> 근데 10g면 이론상 throuput 이 1.25 Gb/s 잖아요
[01:26] <bluedusk> sata3 면 725mb/s 고
[01:26] <Work^Seony> 실제로는 그렇게 안나오죠
[01:26] <bluedusk> 그럼 디스크가 병목일 가능성이 더 크지 않을까요?
[01:27] <bluedusk> 뭐 일단 원인 자체가 네트웍인지 아닌지가 정확히 나오질 않아서
[01:27] <bluedusk> 전 디스크쪽을 의심중이고.. 이쪽은 네트웍쪽을 의심중인데..
[01:27] <Work^Seony> ceph에서 카피 몇번하세요?
[01:27] <bluedusk> 3 replica 일꺼에요
[01:27] <Work^Seony> 아마 그런 부분까지 고려해야할 거에요,...
[01:28] <bluedusk> 어차피 디스크 교체시에 replica 되는부분에서 땡겨다가 담을텐데..
[01:28] <bluedusk> 그냥 증상 재현시키고 모니터링 걸어보면 간단히 알수 잇는데 참..
[01:28] <bluedusk> 답답하네요..;
[01:28] <Work^Seony> 이게 ceph가 건드리기 좀 무서워요 ㅎㅎ
[01:29] <bluedusk> 하긴 저도 대규모 환경을 운영해본건 아니라서..
[01:30] <Work^Seony> 엑스챗 실수로 detach했는데, 이거 다시 집어넣는 방법 있나요? ㅎㅎ
[01:31] <Work^Seony> 아 되는구나
[01:57] <HolyKnight> 대전 메르스 3차 감염 의심 환자 사망
[02:01] <HolyKnight> @milk_myeon: 사장님이 오늘 아침 회의시간에 메르스 심각하다며 사람들 많은 곳에 (지하철, 엘리베이터) 가지 말라고 해서 회사 오지 말라는건가 기대했는데 1시간 일찍 출근 해서 사람들 없을때 오라고 함,,,
[02:18] <samahui_ws> ㅎㅎㅎ 한시간 일찍이면 그래도 양반이네요
[02:19] <samahui_ws> 농담조로 우리 보스는 그냥 밤샘해 ~ 그럼 출퇴근할때 사람들 마주칠일 없자나 하던데요 ㅡㅡ 그걸 농담이라고 에휴..
[02:19] <samahui_ws> 점심 맛나게들 드세요~ 전 약속이 있어서 좀 일찍~ 갑니다
[04:05] <jun> 사장님들이... 과감하신 분들이 많으시군요;;;
[04:10] <PotatoGim> 안녕하세요~~
[04:38] <jun> 안녕하세요~
[04:43] <samahui_ws> 점심은 맛있게들 드셨는지요?
[04:44] <samahui_ws> 오후에도 화이팅! 합시다~~~
[04:44] <Seony> 방금 한아얄씨에 올라온 글인데,
[04:44] <Seony> 메르스 관련해서 그래도 정부가 통제 하나는 확실히 잘하고 있네요
[04:44] <Seony> 거리에 돌아다니는 낙타도 안보이고, 고기 정육점에도 중동산 낙타고기가 유통되는걸 못봤네용
[04:44] <Seony> ㅋㅋㅋ
[04:44] <samahui_ws> 낙타유도 회수조치 잘했더군요 슈퍼에 없어요
[04:44] <samahui_ws> ㅋ
[04:46] <PotatoGim> 아.. 한동안은 낙타로 출근을 못하겠네요..
[04:47] <samahui_ws> 낙타대신 라마를 이용하세요
[04:48] <PotatoGim> 단봉 한 대 뿐이라서...ㅜ
[04:48] <PotatoGim> 쌍봉은 괜찮다던데 이럴 줄 알았으면 1종 쌍봉으로 딸 것을 그랬네요...
[05:01] <jun> 아... 괜히 2종 오토 땄네요;;
[05:02] <HolyKnight> 왜유
[05:02] <HolyKnight> 본좌가 그건디유.
[05:02] <HolyKnight> 여자들사이에서 딴 건 쪽팔렸었쥬
[05:03] <jun> ㅎㅎㅎ 전 심지어 옆에서 1종쌍봉 끄는 여자한테 추월당했어요 ㅎㅎㅎ 오토보다 후진을 더 잘하더군요 ㅎㅎ
[05:03] <HolyKnight> ㄷㄷ
[05:15] <bluedusk> 저
[05:15] <bluedusk> 맥프레 넣어 가지고 다닐 가방 추천좀 해주세요
[05:15] <bluedusk> 매는걸로다가
[05:15] <bluedusk> 등에 매는거라고 해야하겠죠?
[05:16] <jun> 백팩이요?
[05:17] <bluedusk> 크로스 백팩?
[05:17] <jun> 끈이 하나만 있는 크로스 백팩?
[05:19] <jun> 저는 싼것만 찾는 주의라서 맘에 드시는걸 추천드리기 어려울것 같습니다...
[05:49] <HolyKnight> http://m.blog.naver.com/kickthebaby/220379744731
[05:52] <jun> 해운대 중동..;;;;
[05:53] <samahui_ws> 해운대 중동 ㅋ
[05:58] <jun> 저는 웃겨서 뿌렸는데 친구들한테 쌍욕먹었어요 ㅜㅜㅋㅋㅋㅋ
[05:59] <jun> 저 같이 썰렁한거 같다구 ㅠㅠ
[06:01] <ujuc> ㅎㅎㅎ
[06:19] <HolyKnight> ㅋㅋ
[06:24] <samahui_ws> 썰렁하지만 재미있네요
[06:25] <samahui_ws> 직원에게 써먹어야지~
[06:25] <samahui_ws> 1분후... 시무룩~
[06:34] <jun> ㅎㅎㅎㅎ 근데 회사 사람들은 되게 킥킥대며 웃는데요 ㅎㅎㅎ
[06:39] <HolyKnight> ㅋㅋ
[06:49] <samahui_ws> 그게 달변가와 저의 차이죠 ㅜㅜ
[06:52] <samahui_ws> 재미있게 말하는 스킬 부족인듯해요
[06:52] <samahui_ws> 그나저나 메르스덕에 모임있는거 다 취소위기 아니면 참석하기 불안하게 느껴는군요
[06:53] <samahui_ws> 혼자의 몸이면 에라~ 모르겠다하고 다 가는건데 ... 집에 아기가 있으니 더 그렇네요
[07:12] <HolyKnight> 영웅찡 ㅎㅇ
[07:15] <bluedusk> 영웅찡 ㅎㅇ
[07:26] <pchero_work> HolyKnight: bluedusk: 안녕하세요. ㅎㅎㅎ :)
[07:26] <HolyKnight> ㅎㅇㅇ
[07:33] <pchero_work> 안타깝네요... http://media.daum.net/society/others/newsview?newsid=20150604144718923
[07:37] <pchero_work> HolyKnight: vps 어디꺼 쓰신다고 하셨었죠?
[07:37] <samahui_ws> 안타깝기는 하지만 범죄는 범죄죠
[07:37] <pchero_work> samahui_ws: 네.. 그래서 더욱 안타깝네요.. 22살에 에효..
[07:38] <samahui_ws> 22살때의 전... 열심히 공부하는척 술마시고 다녔군요
[07:38] <pchero_work> 음.. 전 군대.. -_-;;
[07:39] <samahui_ws> 군대 일찍 가셨군요 ㅎㅎ;;
[07:40] <bluedusk> 저도 군대?
[07:40] <pchero_work> 1학년 마치자마자 바로 갔었죠. ㅎㅎ
[07:40] <samahui_ws> 대부분 그나이의 대한민국 건장한 남자면 군대겠죠... 전 특례받느라 늦게 갔고... 심지어 잘못되서 다시 갔지만 ㅎㅎ;;
[07:41] <pchero_work> samahui_ws: ??!!!!
[07:42] <samahui_ws> 대학 졸업하고 대학원다니면서 산학연구원으로 특례받았다가... 당시 SI사업 투입되는 바람에 나중에~ 인정못받은 기간만 다녀왔어요
[07:42] <pchero_work> 아...
[07:42] <samahui_ws> 대충 싸이 비슷한 경우죠 ㅎㅎ;;
[07:43] <jun> 아....
[07:43] <samahui_ws> 30대에 다시 군대 가니까 좋던데요
[07:43] <pchero_work> 에구... ;;;;
[07:43] <samahui_ws> 대우도 틀리고 예전 친구들처럼 맞는 일도 없고
[07:43] <samahui_ws> ㅎㅎ
[07:43] <pchero_work> ;;;;;;;;;
[07:44] <samahui_ws> 맘껏 놀다왔죠... 장기 휴가 다녀오기분...으로... 갇혀서 월급의 1/100받으면서 지내니...
[07:44] <samahui_ws> OTL
[07:45] <pchero_work> 아....ㅠㅠ
[07:45] <HolyKnight> 본좌 안써유
[07:45] <HolyKnight> 다른분과 헷갈리신듯
[07:45] <pchero_work> 아...
[07:46] <pchero_work> 죄송;; ㅎㅎㅎ
[07:46] <pchero_work> 멋지네요. ㅎㅎㅎ http://m.newsfund.media.daum.net/project/214
[07:48] <samahui_ws> 맥프로북 키보드백라이트가 안꺼져요
[07:49] <samahui_ws> 컴을꺼도 전원연결되있으면 안꺼지는 신기한...
[07:50] <samahui_ws> 합선났나보내요 ㅜㅜ
[07:50] <pchero_work> 헉!
[08:04] <samahui_ws> 물 들어갔었군요 나도 모르게
[08:05] <samahui_ws> 제꺼 아니라 ... 주인 자리에 놔두고 왔... 아니 아무일 없습니다
[08:05] <jun> 무슨일이 있었나요..? ㅎㅎㅎㅎ
[08:05] <samahui_ws> 그나저나 그냥 AS평도 안좋은데... 과실이면... AS되긴 할까요?
[08:05] <samahui_ws> 무슨일은 없습니다
[08:05] <samahui_ws> 그냥 궁금해서 물어만 본겁니다
[08:05] <samahui_ws> 절대로!!!
[08:06] <samahui_ws> 이럴때 델 컴플릿커버가 정말 진리네요
[08:06] <samahui_ws> 과실도 수리~ 화나면 집어 던져도 수리~
[08:11] <jun> 수리하게 될 경우도 문제네요;;;;
[08:21] <HolyKnight> ㅇㅅㅇ
[08:26] <pchero_work> 흠..
[08:26] <pchero_work> VPS 서비스 이전하려고 하는데.. 혹시 https://www.vultr.com 여기 써보신 분 계세요?
[08:56] <bluedusk> 제이슨찡 ㅎㅇ
[09:00] <HolyKnight> 블루찡 ㅎㅇ
[09:01] <bluedusk> 엌
[09:01] <bluedusk> ....
[09:05] <samahui_ws> 중국도 세월호 같은 사고가 났군요
[09:41] <samahui_ws> 퇴근들하세요~
[09:46] <HolyKnight> http://m.blog.naver.com/kickthebaby/220379761655
[11:15] <pchero_work> http://bbs1.ruliweb.daum.net/gaia/do/ruliweb/default/hobby/1475/read?articleId=334195&objCate1=946&bbsId=G002&platformId=4&t__nil_ruliweb=best&nil_id=10
[11:15] <pchero_work> ㄷ ㄷ ㄷ 하네요...
[11:36] <samahui_ws> 저녁을 든든히 먹었으니 힘내서 일해야죠
[11:37] <samahui_ws> 퇴근길 메르스 걱정말고 야근을.... OTL
[14:29] <monos> samahui_ws: 님 안녕하세요
[14:30] <samahui_ws> 앗! 안녕하세요
[14:30] <samahui_ws> 오랜만에 뵙습니다
[14:30] <monos> 네 제가 오랜만에 왔습니다.
[14:30] <monos> 컴퓨터 할 시간이 없어서
[14:30] <monos> 오랜만에 왔습니다.
[14:30] <samahui_ws> 요즘 바쁘게 지내시는가 보군요
[14:31] <monos> 일하니깐 피곤해서 컴퓨터를 잘 못켜네요
[14:31] <samahui_ws> 전 일하는 자체가 컴으로 하는거라 항상 켜놓습니다 ㅎㅎ;;
[14:31] <monos> samahui_ws: 님 제가 컴퓨터를 너무 활용을 안하고 썩히는거 같아서 이번에 amd 8150 컴퓨터를 서버로 만들려고 하는데요
[14:32] <monos> 저희집에서 제일 좋은 컴퓨터에요
[14:32] <monos> 우분투 서버로 만들려고 하는데 ssd가 지금 달려 있는데요 ssd는 서버로 사용할땐 별로 쓸모 없겠죠?
[14:32] <samahui_ws> ㅎㅎ;;
[14:33] <samahui_ws> 뭐 쓰기 나름이겠지만 필요성이 덜할거 같기는 하네요
[14:33] <monos> 토렌트 서버랑 tvheadend mpd 아파치나 엔지닉스 정도만 돌릴껀데
[14:34] <monos> 램이 8기가 인데 서버 버전을 깔아서 쓰는거 보단 데스크탑 버전을 깔아서 항상켜두는게 좋을가요?
[14:35] <samahui_ws> 그냥 서버버젼으로 까는게 났겠네요
[14:35] <samahui_ws> 토렌트 쓰신다면 SSD비추입니다
[14:35] <monos> 넵
[14:35] <monos> 256 삼성 830 하나 있어요
[14:35] <samahui_ws> 그냥 하드 쓰고 메모리나 좀 더 높여주세요
[14:35] <samahui_ws> ㅎㅎ;; 저랑 같은 모델 쓰시는군요
[14:35] <monos> 2테라 시케이트꺼 하나랑
[14:35] <samahui_ws> 제 노트북 하나에 달아서 우분투 돌리고 있죠 ㅎㅎ
[14:35] <monos> 2개 있네요
[14:36] <samahui_ws> SSD보다는 데이터버퍼를 증설하는게 속도면이나 효율면에서 훨 나을겁니다
[14:36] <monos> 일하면서 컴퓨터 필요할때가 있는데 노트북이나 테블릿에 블루투스 키보드 있으면 좋겠다는 생각이 들긴하는데 컴퓨터 없어도 그만이라서 싼거면 하나 사고 싶네요
[14:37] <samahui_ws> 전 예전~에 쓰던 10인치 타블릿용 케이스에 붙여지는 블투 키보드 하나 남았네요
[14:38] <samahui_ws> 기계식 쓰다보니 키감땜에 많이 안쓰게 되더라고요
[14:38] <samahui_ws> 거기다 노트북을 오래 써서 그런지 몸에 배어있어서 키보드에 트랙포인트나 터치패드 있는걸 찾다보니 가격도 좀 쎄고요
[14:39] <monos> 저는 액셀 돌릴 사양에 배터리 오래 가는거 가격이 싼거 있으면 하나 사고 싶어요
[14:39] <samahui_ws> 지금 있는놈은 그 중에 싼놈인데 역시 싼값을 한다고 마우스키를 fn키로 작동해야되서 쓰다가 좀씩 실수하네요 ㅎㅎ ;;
[14:39] <samahui_ws> 엑셀같은거 돌릴꺼면 패드말고 저렴한 노트북을 사세요
[14:40] <monos> 노트북은 들고 다니기 무겁고 크걸 같아요
[14:40] <monos> 클거 같아요
[14:41] <samahui_ws> 엑셀보고 할꺼면 8인치는 작을듯한데 결국 10인치 사실거자나요
[14:41] <samahui_ws> 거기다 키보드에 케이스 하면... 10~12인치 노트북과 큰차이 없지 않을까요?
[14:42] <samahui_ws> ㅎㅎ;; 뭐 전 노트북이 손에 익어서 훨씬 ~ 작업하기 편하니 노트북을 주로 쓰지만... 인터넷검색하고 영화보고 하는 정도면 패드가 났겠지만요
[14:42] <monos> 저는 잘모르겠어요
[14:42] <monos> 액셀에 맞는 크기가 어떤건지 잘모르겠네요
[14:42] <samahui_ws> 엑셀이야기를 하신걸보니 작업할때 쓰실거 같은데
[14:43] <monos> 네
[14:43] <samahui_ws> 작업할거면 노트북이 훨 편하죠
[14:43] <samahui_ws> 패드로 작업 못해요... 정말 승질나요
[14:43] <monos> 액셀에서 서식 작업정도만 할려고 합니다.
[14:43] <samahui_ws> 그렇다고 키보드 마우스 붙이면... 결국 이동성 떨어지고요
[14:43] <samahui_ws> 한번 써보세요
[14:43] <samahui_ws> 써보고 구입하셔도 늦지 않죠
[14:44] <monos> 전자관 가서 구매안하고 사용해봐야 겠어요
[14:44] <samahui_ws> 엑셀 파일을 가져가서 전자랜드나 하이마트 이마트처럼 노트북과 패드 진열해 놓은대서 해봐요 ㅎㅎ
[14:44] <monos> 네
[14:44] <monos> 감사합니다.
[14:44] <monos> 그렇게 해야 겠네요
[14:44] <samahui_ws> 저도 심심해서 8인치 패드 하나 샀다가 정말 만화책보고 영화보는거로 밖에 안써서
[14:44] <samahui_ws> 결국 썩히고 있어요 ㅜㅜ
[14:45] <samahui_ws> w4 인가하는 에이서껀디 ... 아까워요
[14:45] <monos> 에이서 가격이 엄청 싸던데
[14:45] <samahui_ws> 나올때는 그다지 안쌌어요 윈도우패드입니다
[14:45] <samahui_ws> 30만냥 정도 했던거 같네요 ㅜㅜ 지금은 19만원정도인가 그럴껄요... 아니면 단종되었을지도 ㅎㅎ;;
[14:46] <monos> 아직도 비싼데요
[14:46] <samahui_ws> 13년 말에 나와서 제가 14년도에 샀으니.. 지금 단종인가보네요 리퍼 215000정도하네요
[14:46] <monos> http://prod.danawa.com/info/?pcode=2289804&cate=122582
[14:46] <samahui_ws> 새거는 31만원 ㅎㅎ
[14:47] <samahui_ws> 네 저도 지금 다나와 검색해봤어요
[14:47] <samahui_ws> 제꺼 가져가요
[14:47] <samahui_ws> ㅎㅎ
[14:47] <samahui_ws> 케이스도 없고해서 7만냥에
[14:47] <samahui_ws> ㅎㅎ
[14:47] <monos> 엄청 싼데요?
[14:47] <monos> 거져 인데요?
[14:47] <samahui_ws> 전용 키보드도 없고 10인치 쓰던 키보드 쓰고 있어요 ㅎㅎ
[14:48] <monos> 엄청 싼데요 7만원이면?
[14:48] <samahui_ws> 버리긴 아깝고 해서 10만냥에 팔려다가 여기가 장터도 아니고 해서
[14:48] <samahui_ws> 자체 디씨
[14:48] <samahui_ws> ㅎㅎ
[14:48] <samahui_ws> 규정위반일듯해요 ㅎㅎ
[14:48] <samahui_ws> 장사를하다니 ㅎㅎ
[14:48] <samahui_ws> 커버 케이스가 있는데 제가 그걸 뜯어버렸어요
[14:48] <samahui_ws> 커버 거추장스럽다고
[14:48] <monos> 제가 사고 싶은데요
[14:48] <samahui_ws> 덕분에 핸드폰처럼 고무케이스만 있죠 ㅎㅎ
[14:49] <monos> 제가 링크한 제품 맞는거죠?
[14:49] <samahui_ws> w4가 한가지 뿐인지라 맞을겁니다
[14:50] <monos> 이거 그럼 제가 구매하고 싶어요
[14:50] <samahui_ws> ㅎㅎ 네이년에 되파는거 아니시면 가져가세요
[14:50] <monos> 그런데 윈도우 패드는 한번도 사용안해봤는데
[14:50] <samahui_ws> 네이년에서 18만원정도에 거래되거든요
[14:50] <monos> 안팔죠
[14:50] <monos> 테블릿 한번도 사용안해보고
[14:50] <monos> 어떻게 사용하는지도 모르는데요
[14:51] <monos> 계속 사용해야죠
[14:51] <samahui_ws> 그냥 윈도우 8.1 인지라 그냥 쓰는겁니다
[14:51] <samahui_ws> 똑같아요
[14:51] <samahui_ws> 그래서 불편하죠
[14:51] <monos> 윈도우용 안드로이드보다 더 좋아요?
[14:51] <samahui_ws> 패드는 안드로이드나 IOS가 더 특화가 잘되어있어서 쓰기 좋쵸
[14:51] <samahui_ws> 윈도우는 불편해요
[14:51] <monos> 그런가요?
[14:51] <samahui_ws> 네
[14:51] <samahui_ws> 윈도우는 아직까지는 마우스와 키보드를 벗어나지 못한걸로 보여요
[14:51] <monos> 저는 패블릿은 한번도 못사용해봤어요
[14:52] <monos> 그럼 samahui_ws님이 마우스랑 키보드도 주시나요?
[14:52] <samahui_ws> 무엇보다 해상도대비 아이콘 크기등이 병맛이라 쓰다보면 화나요
[14:52] <samahui_ws> 헉 ㅜㅜ
[14:52] <samahui_ws> 그거까지 다하면 10만냥은 받아야되요
[14:52] <samahui_ws> 그리고 키보드 마우스가 아니라 패드달린 키보드입니다
[14:52] <monos> 1200*800 이면 괜찮은데요?
[14:52] <samahui_ws> 블루투스
[14:52] <monos> 테블릿은 유선 키보드 못꼽아요?
[14:52] <samahui_ws> 쓸만은해요 어차피 손가락으로다가 확대축소가 되니까요
[14:53] <monos> 유선 키보드 유선 마우스 못꼽아요?
[14:53] <samahui_ws> 꼽을수있는데 USB단자가 미니 단자 하나라 컨버터 써야되요
[14:53] <samahui_ws> 그리고 그렇게 되면 충전이 안되죠
[14:53] <monos> 그러네요
[14:53] <samahui_ws> 충전하면서는 못써요
[14:53] <monos> 아하 그런 단점이 있군요
[14:53] <samahui_ws> 그래서 블루투스 키보드를 산거죠
[14:53] <samahui_ws> 비록 좋은게 아니지만요 ㅎㅎ
[14:53] <samahui_ws> USB포트의 단점이죠
[14:53] <monos> 블루투스 키보드랑 마우스 주시고 10만원이에요?
[14:53] <samahui_ws> 새로나온USB는 될거같은데 3.0가지는 안되죠
[14:54] <samahui_ws> 블투키보드만이죠... 터치패드 달린 모델이예요
[14:54] <monos> 요즘 다 usb로 나오는데요?
[14:54] <monos> usb2.0에 꼽으니 다 사용되던데 테블릿은 한번도 사용안해봤어요
[14:54] <samahui_ws> 새로나오는건 type-c로 나오게 될겁니다
[14:55] <monos> 아 맞어 오랜만에 컴퓨터 켜니깐 윈도우 10 무료 업그레이드 신청하는거 나와서 신청했어요
[14:55] <samahui_ws> 그거면 충전과 동시에 사용이 가능해서 확장USB포트 붙여서 쓸수 있겠지만
[14:55] <samahui_ws> 3.0까지는 안되요
[14:55] <monos> 아하
[14:55] <samahui_ws> 전 아직 안했어요
[14:55] <samahui_ws> 좀 두고보고 하려고요
[14:55] <monos> 새로 나오는거 type-c로 사야 겠네요
[14:55] <monos> 나도 그럼 취소 할까봐요
[14:55] <samahui_ws> 무너 퉁수를 칠지도 모르겠고 또 8 첨나왔을때 처럼 병맛날꺼 같아서 불안해서 못쓰겠어요
[14:56] <monos> 테블릿은 한번도 안나와서 사마휘님 한테 사서 사용해보고 싶네요
[14:56] <monos> 절대로 어디 팔려고 하는게 아니고요
[14:56] <monos> 테블릿 자체를 사용안해봐서 사용해볼려고 살려고 하는거에요
[14:56] <samahui_ws> 아직까지는 type-c 달린건 안나왔을겁니다
[14:56] <samahui_ws> 어디사세요?
[14:57] <monos> 대구에요
[14:57] <samahui_ws> ㅜㅜ
[14:57] <samahui_ws> 그랬었죠
[14:57] <monos> 예전에 사마휘님이
[14:57] <monos> 컴퓨터
[14:57] <samahui_ws> 주소를 까먹어서
[14:57] <samahui_ws> ㅎㅎ
[14:57] <monos> 아톰인가 주셨어요
[14:57] <samahui_ws> 그... 그랬죠 ㅎㅎ
[14:57] <samahui_ws> 듀얼코어요
[14:57] <monos> 그거 서버로 쓰고 있음
[14:57] <samahui_ws> 아톰은 아니였죠
[14:57] <samahui_ws> ㅎㅎ ;;
[14:57] <samahui_ws> 듀얼코어인데 좀 낮은 놈이였죠
[14:57] <monos> cpu 35w 짜리에요
[14:57] <samahui_ws> 저전력 노트북용 CPU쓰는 보드
[14:57] <monos> 맞아요
[14:57] <monos> 국내에선 구경도 못해보는거요
[14:57] <samahui_ws> 그거 비싼 보드입니다
[14:57] <monos> 네
[14:57] <monos> 아직도 잘 사용하고 있어요
[14:57] <samahui_ws> 왜냐면 보드가 몇개 없는거라 ㅎㅎ
[14:58] <samahui_ws> 저전력 시스템으로 쓰기 좋쵸
[14:58] <monos> 네
[14:58] <monos> 나스로 사용하고 있어요
[14:58] <samahui_ws> 그렇군요
[14:58] <monos> 집에 컴퓨터 구형만 3대
[14:58] <samahui_ws> ㅎㅎ;;
[14:59] <monos> 팬티엄D945는 거의 안쓰는데 가지고 있어요
[14:59] <samahui_ws> 그건 너무 전기를 많이 먹자나요
[14:59] <samahui_ws> 그래도 쓸만은 하겠네요
[14:59] <monos> amd 패넘 925는 윈도우나 리눅스 OS 테스트용
[14:59] <samahui_ws> 패넘 925면 듀얼인가요?
[14:59] <monos> amd 잠베지 8150은 내 메인컴퓨터에요
[14:59] <monos> 4코어에요
[14:59] <samahui_ws> 잠베지는 8코어
[14:59] <samahui_ws> 맞죠?
[14:59] <monos> 네
[15:00] <samahui_ws> 좋은거 있으시네요
[15:00] <monos> 패넘 925 4코어
[15:00] <samahui_ws> 925도 쿼드였군요
[15:00] <samahui_ws> 몰랐어요
[15:00] <samahui_ws> 전 945인게 썼건거 같은데 정확한 기억이 안나네요
[15:00] <monos> 잠베지는 8코어인데 전기 엄청 먹어요
[15:00] <monos> 945가 더 좋은데요
[15:00] <samahui_ws> 잠베지가 전기를 많이 먹는군요...
[15:00] <monos> 데네브
[15:00] <samahui_ws> 데네브 맞아요
[15:00] <monos> 잠베지 적기 많이 먹고 윈도우 깔면 4코어로 작동해요
[15:00] <samahui_ws> 얼마전에 팔아먹었죠... 15만냥에 ㅎㅎ
[15:01] <samahui_ws> 데네브에 460인가 560ti인가 그래픽 달린 놈이였죠
[15:01] <samahui_ws> 나름 당시 게이밍 머신이였는데
[15:01] <samahui_ws> 똥값에 넘기니 좀 아깝더군요
[15:01] <monos> 데네브 925에 gt220 사용중
[15:01] <samahui_ws> 동생 게이밍 머신으로 만들어 줬던건데 ... 아쉽더라고요
[15:01] <monos> 아깝네요
[15:02] <samahui_ws> 동생에게 웍스 노트북 한대 사줘서 쓰지를 않더라고요
[15:02] <samahui_ws> 팔려고 봤더니 ... PC방 에서 나온놈들이 딱 그가격에 팔리고 있더라고요
[15:02] <monos> 요즘은 데스크탑은 공간을 많이 차지 해서 이제 많이 있어도 둘때도 없어요
[15:02] <samahui_ws> 그래서 저도 미련없이 중고딩나라에 넘겼죠
[15:02] <samahui_ws> ㅜㅜ
[15:02] <monos> 네
[15:02] <monos> 잘하셨어요
[15:02] <monos> 안쓰는건 다 처분하는게 좋아요
[15:02] <samahui_ws> 데탑은 확실히 자리를 많이 차지하죠
[15:03] <monos> 저처럼 계속 집에 두면 쓰래기 밖에 안되요
[15:03] <samahui_ws> 구형 애플이나 Ibm초기형 아니고서는 돈되는것도 아니라서 저도 데탑은 다 처분해 버렸어요
[15:03] <samahui_ws> 486cpu하나만 남아있네요
[15:03] <monos> 윈도우 테블릿은 구글 스토어 같은거 있어요?
[15:03] <samahui_ws> 대신 전 노트북은 486부터 팬티엄 초기까지 다 가지고 있죠
[15:03] <monos> 486 유물 시피유네요
[15:03] <samahui_ws> 윈도우8.1 안써보셨나요?
[15:03] <monos> 데스크탑으로 사용해봤어요
[15:03] <samahui_ws> 윈도우 스토어는 있어요 다만 프로그램이 생각보다 없죠
[15:04] <samahui_ws> 똑같아요
[15:04] <samahui_ws> 그냥 신형 아톰들어간 휴대용 컴이예요
[15:04] <samahui_ws> 거기에 터치스크린이 달린거죠
[15:04] <monos> 아하
[15:04] <samahui_ws> 그래서 터치로 쓰기 불편하다는 거예요
[15:04] <samahui_ws> 10 나오면 또 어떻게 될지 모르지만요
[15:04] <monos> 스토어에 그래도 왠만한건 무료로 다 있겠죠?
[15:05] <samahui_ws> 8.1까지는 아직까지 태블릿으로 쓰기에는 불편하고 PC에 쓰기에는 난해하고 그러하죠
[15:05] <samahui_ws> 그래서 8버젼이 7만 못하게 팔리고 있는거죠
[15:05] <monos> 아하
[15:05] <samahui_ws> PC용 프로그램 쓰면 되니까
[15:05] <samahui_ws> 상관없죠
[15:05] <samahui_ws> PC랑 그대로 똑같이 돌아가요
[15:05] <monos> 그래서 라즈베리파이2에 윈도우10 인가 깔수 있다고 했군요
[15:05] <samahui_ws> 게임도 하스스톤까지는 원할하게 쓸만하게 돌아가죠
[15:05] <monos> 하스스톤도 요즘 잘안했네요
[15:06] <monos> 내 휴대폰으로 하면 너무 느림
[15:06] <samahui_ws> 그건 개발자용으로 말그대로 제어용이라
[15:06] <monos> 영화 보고 하스스톤 하고
[15:06] <samahui_ws> 일반적인 윈도우가 아니예요
[15:06] <monos> 네
[15:06] <samahui_ws> 라즈베리파이용 나옴거 돌려봤는데 말그대로 깔아놓고 외부 접속해서 개발작업하는 딱 그정도예요
[15:06] <samahui_ws> 쓸게 못되요
[15:06] <monos> 아하
[15:07] <samahui_ws> 라즈베리용 개발자 테스트버젼이 나왔었거든요... 지금은 다시 페쇄됬지만
[15:07] <samahui_ws> 아무튼 그걸 일반 윈도우 생각하고 깔았다가 라즈비안 세팅 다해놓은거 날린 사람들이 종종 보여서 안타깝더군요
[15:07] <monos> 저 라즈베리파이2 살려다가 오드로이드 c1 샀는데 잘한건지 못한건지 모르겠네요
[15:07] <samahui_ws> 라즈비안이나 일반 윈도우처럼 PC처럼 쓰는 환경이 아니예요
[15:08] <samahui_ws> 오드로이드 성능도 좋쵸
[15:08] <samahui_ws> 다만 지원이 좀 더 아쉽고 비쌌었죠
[15:08] <samahui_ws> 요즘은 어떤지 모르겠네요
[15:08] <monos> 라즈베리파이 3 나오면 사야 겠어요
[15:09] <samahui_ws> 그러고보니 테스트보드로 c1 있었지요
[15:09] <samahui_ws> 제가 썼으면서 까먹었네요
[15:09] <samahui_ws> 하도 안쓰니 ㅎㅎ;;
[15:10] <samahui_ws> C1에는 안드로이드 깔아서 썼었는데... 확실히 안드로이드 돌릴꺼면 C1이 났죠
[15:10] <HolyKnight> @joydvzon: 메르스 걸린 사람이 그것도 의사가 악착같이 찾아간 곳이 아파트 재건축 총회라는 게 참으로 대한민국의 현실을 적나라하게 보여주는 부분.
[15:10] <monos> c1에 우분투 도 잘 깔려요
[15:10] <monos> 안드로이드 잘깔려요
[15:10] <monos> 2개다 잘깔림
[15:11] <samahui_ws> 전 안드로이드 앱 개발할때 테스트 보드로 써본거라 ㅎㅎ;; 다른 OS설치는 아예 생각을 안했었어요
[15:11] <monos> 네
[15:11] <monos> samahui_ws: 님 테블릿 처분하실거면 저한테 하세요
[15:11] <monos> 저 피곤해서 그만 자러 가야 겠네요
[15:11] <samahui_ws> 메르스 솔직히 그냥 독감의 일종으로 건강하면 그냥 지나가 버릴수도 있는데... 너무 과장되게 걱정을 시키고 있는거 같아요
[15:11] <monos> 내일 또 일하러 가야 되어서 안자면
[15:11] <monos> 일못해서요
[15:11] <samahui_ws> 물론 조심해야하고 또 정부는 보다 잘 관리해야하지만요
[15:11] <samahui_ws> ㅎㅎ;;
[15:11] <samahui_ws> 조심히 들어가세요
[15:11] <samahui_ws> 나중에 또 뵈요
[15:12] <monos> 네
[15:12] <monos> 테블릿 처분 하실거면 저한테
[15:12] <samahui_ws> 네
[15:12] <monos> 나중에 또 올게요
[15:12] <samahui_ws> 패드는 꼭 그리 처분할께요 ㅎㅎ;;
[15:13] <samahui_ws> 다른걸 다 떠나서 큰 병원들 눈치를 보는건지... 왜 감염자 수용병원 명단 공개를 안하는지 이해가 안되요
[15:13] <samahui_ws> 그것만 해줘도 훨씬 덜 불안할텐디 ... 우리아기 예방접종이 돌까지는 몇날 안맞아도 되서 다행이지... 얼마전까지도 종합병원으로 주사맞으러 다녔었는데 아찔하네요
[15:13] <samahui_ws> 성모병원이였죠 ㅜㅜ
[15:16] <HolyKnight> 허
[15:16] <HolyKnight> 그러셨군유.
[15:17] <samahui_ws> 네 얼마전에 돌되기전 마지막 주사 맞춰주고 왔는데... 참으로 다행이죠
[15:18] <samahui_ws> 아무튼 왜 밝히지 않는지 모르겠네요... 지금 입원해 있는 환자들이 알고 다 들고 일어나기라도 할까봐서인지... 이미 경리병동생기는거 보면 다 알터인데 ... 결국 방역의 무능함을 덥으려고 하는 짖으로 밖에는 보이지 않네요
[15:18] <samahui_ws> 혼란은 몰라서 생기는 혼란이 더 크죠
[15:19] <samahui_ws> 몇몇 병원만 피하면 될걸 모든 병원을 기피하게 만들고... 더욱이 불안감이 극도로 커지고 있죠... 혹 불안감을 키워서 뭔가 감추거나 조종하려는 음모는 아닐지~ 라는 음모론을 모락모락 스스로 키우고 앉았네요
[15:26] <HolyKnight> 흠
[15:27] <HolyKnight> 메르스 자체는 그냥 독감의 일종정도같은데
[15:27] <HolyKnight> 과민반응하는거 아닌가싶구유.
[15:27] <HolyKnight> 거기에 정부의 한심한 대처가 부채질하는듯....
[15:28] <HolyKnight> 결국 자치가 나서네유....
[15:28] <samahui_ws> 전문가왈 백신이 만들어 지지 않는 이유가 어려워서가 아니라 이전 사스나 조류도감들 처럼 약을 만들어봐야 1년정도면 병원균 자체가 사라져 돈이 안된다고 하더군요
[15:28] <HolyKnight> 허
[15:28] <samahui_ws> 결국 몇년이내에 사라질 기존 독감수준이라는거죠
[15:28] <HolyKnight> 그렇군유
[15:28] <samahui_ws> 근데 감염되고 사망한 사람들이 생겨서
[15:29] <samahui_ws> 근데 이 사망자들도 기존 질병이 심해져서 위태롭던 사람들인지라
[15:29] <HolyKnight> ㅇㅇ
[15:29] <samahui_ws> 결국 건강하면 그냥 견뎌지는 독감수준인데 과장되어버렸죠
[15:29] <HolyKnight> ㅇㅇ
[15:29] <samahui_ws> 거기다 정부의 안일한 대처와 감추기 급급함을 보여주는 대응미스가 더해져서
[15:29] <samahui_ws> 완전 무슨 종말의 징조로 보일지경이죠
[15:30] <samahui_ws> 근데 왜 병원 공개를 안하느냐... 결국 이걸 이용해서 뭘 노리는건 아닌지...
[15:30] <samahui_ws> 아무튼 무능이라는 이름만 내걸고 귀막고 입닫고 뭔가 하는거 같아 보이네요
[15:32] <samahui_ws> 답답합니다
[15:33] <samahui_ws> 덕분에 마스크와 소독약만 잘팔리고 있죠... 윗분들이 마스카와 소독약관련 주식을 샀나???
[15:35] <HolyKnight> ㄷㄷ
[15:53] <samahui_ws> 낙타를 못타니 오늘은 그만 들어가봐야겠군요.
[15:53] <samahui_ws> 즐거운 밤들 보내시고 내일뵈요~
[18:35] <Work^Seony> 안녕하세요
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"PotatoGim",
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"jun",
"monos",
"pchero_work",
"razGon_MINILA",
"samahui_ws",
"ujuc"
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"channel": "#ubuntu-ko"
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2015-06-04-#ubuntu-release
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[02:45] <hyperair> could a friendly ~ubuntu-sru person please release banshee from the vivid queue? banshee's completely unusable in vivid and people are bugging me left right and center for the fix.
[02:57] <infinity> hyperair: Looking.
[02:57] <hyperair> thanks
[02:59] <infinity> hyperair: LGTM.
[02:59] <hyperair> lgtm?
[02:59] <infinity> Looks good to me.
[02:59] <hyperair> oh
[02:59] <hyperair> yay
[03:08] <hyperair> infinity: thanks
[13:00] <Mirv> could an archive admin pre-bin-NEW-ack qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-addressbook0.1 from https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-016/+sourcepub/5111080/+listing-archive-extra ?
[13:01] <Mirv> I'd like bug #1342031 to be fixed for that package instead of adding another package with the old naming, but I don't force people to
[19:23] <robru> I need an archive admin to ack a new binary package, https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-016-2-publish/84/artifact/address-book-app_packaging_changes.diff/*view*/ please & thanks
[19:25] <infinity> robru: I'm not sure I get the *point* of the split, if component A depends on B anyway, unless A is huge. But the diff seems sane for the stated intent.
[19:26] <robru> infinity: I'm not sure either, somebody else was spearheading this. thanks!
[20:28] <cjwatson> infinity: Perhaps something else is now just going to depend on B.
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"authors": [
"Mirv",
"cjwatson",
"hyperair",
"infinity",
"robru"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/06/04/%23ubuntu-release.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-release"
}
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2015-06-04-#ubuntu-motu
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[03:21] <dupingping> Hi, everyone.
[07:03] <dholbach> good morning
[08:52] <dupingping> dholbach, morning.
[09:07] <dholbach> hi dupingping
[09:07] <dupingping> hi
[09:08] <dupingping> dholbach, are you a moderator?
[09:21] <dholbach> moderator in which sense?
[09:23] <dupingping> I means that Ubuntu Software Center's moderator.
[09:27] <dholbach> ah, no - sorry
[09:28] <dholbach> which package are you looking for help with?
[09:28] <dupingping> My software is in pending review stats in Ubuntu Software Center for 4+ days.
[09:29] <dholbach> which package is it?
[09:29] <dupingping> it's ubuntu-sticky.
[09:29] <dholbach> do you have a link to it?
[09:30] <dupingping> it's not published yet. please look the status, at following url.
[09:30] <dupingping> https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/publish/application-states/
[09:31] <dupingping> Review pending is second step.
[09:31] <dholbach> no... the link you mention is about the software store for the phone
[09:31] <dholbach> not for the desktop
[09:31] <dholbach> unfortunately it takes a lot longer to get software in through this process for the desktop right now as it requires manual review
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"dholbach",
"dupingping"
],
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"channel": "#ubuntu-motu"
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2015-06-04-#lubuntu
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[07:41] <lewis1711> I have a pretty standard ubuntu install. had no sound so I changed my default card in .asoundrc. still no sound in youtube, but flash is installed and the video plays. though. my .asoundrc. ideas? https://gist.github.com/anonymous/bcc62742bd3264ce31b3
[07:44] <lewis1711> (sound plays everywhere else, ie mplayer)
[09:21] <lewis1711> does everyone just end up installing pulseaudio? hmm.
[12:23] <agenthex> hi, awesome people. just installed lubuntu 15.04, and i'm trying to backup my X11 display config before installing fglrx. (unless someone has a better way to install AMD's OpenCL driver for CPU -- not GPU -- while keeping open-source radeon driver)
[13:20] <stromviva> good day
[13:23] <stromviva> can someone tell me why irc is so empty of people
[13:49] <whytrytofly> stromviva: that question is not that import in case it is the onlyone =)
[13:49] <whytrytofly> ubuntu is more crowded
[13:50] <stromviva> yeah i'm already in lubuntu off topic :D
[13:50] <stromviva> but it just confirms my question because everyone is silent lol
[14:08] <stromviva> whytrytofly: lol you can ask that to superman :D
[15:19] <OmahLinux> how to change "keluar lubuntu sesi 14.04" example from this SC https://fbcdn-photos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-0/11212783_1606570399625399_6101403030421755901_n.jpg?efg=eyJpIjoiYiJ9&oh=544e3bac8451363752b9dd7ddbf8558e&oe=55F05682&__gda__=1441580242_33d01c66a68de5b81c562793cbee1cbd
[15:26] <holstein> stromviva: there are "offtopic" chat channels.. they will be busy.. this channel is, as the topic states, specific to lubuntu support..
[15:27] <holstein> OmahLinux: what are you wanting to change?
[15:27] <OmahLinux> i want to change word "keluar lubuntu sesi 14.04".
[15:28] <holstein> OmahLinux: the lxsession name? if i wanted to change that, i would start here.. http://wiki.lxde.org/en/LXSession specifically http://wiki.lxde.org/en/LXSession#Old_LXSession_and_LXSession_Lite_.28before_0.4.9.X.29
[15:43] <seed-please> Can someone please seed the Lubuntu 15.04 torrent ?
[15:48] <seed-please> Sorry for the spam but please someone seed Lubuntu 15.04
[15:48] <seed-please> :(
[17:23] <nonya> how can i have a sound when i auto login
[17:24] <nonya> Startup sound
[17:34] <stromviva> heyz
[17:35] <stromviva> silten bash file which plays a sound file?
[17:35] <stromviva> silent
[17:38] <wxl> stromviva: huh?
[17:38] <stromviva> batch script at login that plays sound file
[17:38] <stromviva> could be an option
[17:38] <wxl> oh i see, you're answering nonya's question
[17:38] <stromviva> yes
[17:41] <wxl> nonya: you may be able to do this through the lightdm configuration but i *THINK* it's actually managed by the greeter
[18:09] <nonya> sorry had a lnog conversation with customer
[18:09] <nonya> stromviva, wxl waht can i do
[18:10] <stromviva> check the lightdm configuration
[18:11] <nonya> ok
[18:12] <stromviva> nonya: which version of lubuntu
[18:14] <nonya> lubuntu 14.04.2 Lxde
[18:14] <stromviva> For those that are interested, I have login sound working on the latest lubuntu 12.04.
[18:14] <stromviva> For testing, I copied the ubuntu login .ogg file to ~/me/.config/autostart
[18:14] <stromviva> Then I created a desktop file with the following:
[18:14] <stromviva> [Desktop Entry]
[18:14] <stromviva> Type=Application
[18:14] <stromviva> Name=GNOME Login Sound
[18:14] <stromviva> Comment=Plays a sound whenever you log in
[18:16] <nonya> I tried play /usr/share/sounds/purple/login.wav in lxsessions settings
[18:18] <stromviva> ?
[18:18] <stromviva> i was muted for pasting multiple lines xD
[18:18] <nonya> stromviva, i need to make a sh file
[18:18] <nonya> ??
[18:19] <Eliz> stromviva: yeah, read the topic: "Pastes: http://paste.ubuntu.com" it's best not to spam us
[18:19] <nonya> he was tring to help me probrly fogot
[18:19] <stromviva> i forgot it was multiple lines :D
[18:19] <nonya> SEEEE
[18:20] <nonya> ;)
[18:20] <stromviva> you are psychic
[18:20] <stromviva> as for the answer ---> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1917685&page=2&p=11785979#post11785979
[18:20] <nonya> now just the same as you
[18:20] <nonya> Thank you will check it out
[18:21] <nonya> brbr
[18:50] <stromviva> nonya: did it work?
[19:03] <nonya> been busy
[19:35] <nonya> stromviva, How do I created a desktop file
[19:35] <stromviva> just a empty file
[19:36] <stromviva> with a .desktop extensions
[19:36] <stromviva> like a text file
[19:36] <nonya> so do i do that in the folder where the sound file is in
[19:38] <stromviva> yes i think so
[19:38] <nonya> name it startup sound.desktop
[19:38] <stromviva> yeah
[19:39] <nonya> ok will try
[19:42] <nonya> Brb
[19:46] <nonya> stromviva, did not work
[19:46] <stromviva> can you give a pastebin of the content of the file
[19:53] <nonya> I will in a few
[19:54] <nonya> forgot to put the .desktop file name on it BRB
[19:54] <stromviva> lol
[19:58] <stromviva> i predict a 90 % probabilty nonya has succeded
[19:59] <nonya> stromviva, still not working
[19:59] <stromviva> lol
[19:59] <stromviva> i predicted 90 % that you had it working
[19:59] <stromviva> copy the contents of the .desktop file in a pastebin please
[20:00] <stromviva> use full paths to the files as in the example
[20:03] <nonya> I forgot to put [Desktop Entry] at top of line in file O my BRB
[20:06] <nonya> not a peep
[20:06] <stromviva> have you checked the PCM audio or just the alsa audio settings
[20:06] <stromviva> maybe it's turned down
[20:07] <nonya> how to check that? it plays the shutdown file
[20:09] <stromviva> audio settings
[20:09] <stromviva> and you should get a window what looks like a ms dos volume bars
[20:10] <nonya> it is set 100
[20:10] <stromviva> ok do this
[20:10] <stromviva> put another command in the file, like exec a program
[20:10] <stromviva> and see if that program starts up
[20:10] <stromviva> that way you are sure its running that file
[20:12] <nonya> Should i use the Name=GNOME Login Sound in the file ??
[20:12] <stromviva> give me a pastebin of your file please
[20:12] <stromviva> that way i can help
[20:13] <nonya> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11572910/
[20:14] <nonya> i do not have Mplayer installed i think that is the problem
[20:14] <stromviva> sudo apt-get update , sudo apt-get install mplayer
[20:15] <stromviva> and yes you need mplayer because mplayer runs the file
[20:15] <nonya> mplayer2 is though
[20:16] <nonya> that would be gnome mplayer
[20:16] <stromviva> what happends if you run this command in a bash
[20:17] <nonya> if i install mplayer it will uninstall mplayer 2
[20:17] <stromviva> usr/bin/mplayer /home/me/.config/autostart/2Computer-Startup.oga
[20:17] <nonya> bash how to run bash
[20:19] <nonya> usr/bin/mplayer: No such file or directory
[20:19] <stromviva> put a / in front of it
[20:20] <nonya> same as before /usr/bin/mplayer: No such file or directory
[20:20] <stromviva> and alt+f2
[20:20] <stromviva> and type in mplayer and hit enter
[20:23] <nonya> I am installing mplayer now
[20:24] <nonya> i will try it now
[20:28] <nonya> mplayer: could not connect to socket
[20:28] <nonya> mplayer: No such file or directory
[20:28] <nonya> Failed to open LIRC support. You will not be able to use your remote control.
[20:28] <stromviva> huh
[20:29] <stromviva> you should be able to play a file
[20:30] <stromviva> can you run mplayer directly?
[20:30] <stromviva> alt+f2 mplayer
[20:32] <nonya> alt+f2 does nothing
[20:32] <stromviva> can you run mplayer from the start menu
[20:33] <nonya> It is called GNOME MPlayer
[20:33] <stromviva> yeah
[20:33] <nonya> and it playes the file
[20:34] <stromviva> canberra-gtk-play --file="[any .ogg file path]"
[20:34] <stromviva> canberra-gtk-play is another one that plays ogg's
[20:34] <stromviva> hey i see a type you said oga
[20:35] <stromviva> in your pastebin
[20:35] <nonya> yes and the GNOME MPlayer plays file
[20:35] <stromviva> doesn't it need to be an ogg file?
[20:36] <nonya> maybe i should change the mplayer to GNOME MPLayer
[20:36] <nonya> in file
[20:36] <stromviva> i have lubuntu running now
[20:36] <stromviva> do you have a moment?
[20:37] <nonya> yup
[20:39] <stromviva> what text editor do you use?
[20:40] <stromviva> the reason i ask because have you already tried
[20:41] <nonya> either leaf or gedit
[20:41] <stromviva> putting a different application after exec
[20:41] <stromviva> so that the application is opened after startup?
[20:41] <nonya> gona try right now BRB
[20:42] <stromviva> check exec command
[20:42] <stromviva> is there somehere that can help?
[20:42] <stromviva> it shouldnt be that hard to run a file right, a simple ogg file, with either mplayer in a script
[20:42] <stromviva> or some other program
[20:43] <stromviva> somehere = someone
[20:49] <nonya> the gnome player started up but said it could not play the file yet when i clicl on the the file and play it with the gnome mplayer it played it
[20:50] <stromviva> have you renamed the file to .ogg
[20:50] <stromviva> and edited the .desktop script from .oga to .ogg?
[20:51] <nonya> not yet
[20:51] <stromviva> do it please
[20:52] <stromviva> file needs to .ogg and .ogg in the desktop script because it needs the right file
[20:52] <nonya> ok did
[20:52] <stromviva> give me a pastebin pls :d
[20:56] <nonya> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11573884/
[20:57] <stromviva> looks good
[20:58] <stromviva> i hope it works lol, this shouldnt be too hard todo
[20:59] <nonya> gona try now
[20:59] <nonya> BRB
[20:59] <stromviva> lol
[21:04] <nonya> not a peep
[21:05] <stromviva> if you run the command after exec in terminal
[21:05] <stromviva> do you hear something
[21:07] <nonya> Cannot open file '/home/nonya/.mplayer/input.conf': No such file or directory
[21:09] <nonya> http://pastebin.com/pwsY5EPt
[21:11] <stromviva> it cand locate the ogg file
[21:11] <stromviva> cant
[21:11] <stromviva> it does open mplayer but it after it has been opened throws an error
[21:11] <nonya> it is where it is suppose to be
[21:11] <stromviva> do this: run only the first part in the terminal so
[21:12] <stromviva> usr/bin/mplayer with a slash in front
[21:12] <stromviva> see if it throws an error just by opening it
[21:14] <nonya> http://pastebin.com/sz00kEaE
[21:15] <stromviva> if you do: leafpad /home/nonya/.config/autostart/2Computer-Startup.ogg
[21:15] <stromviva> what does it do
[21:15] <nonya> OggS
[21:16] <stromviva> does it give an error that it can't locate the file?
[21:18] <nonya> /home/nonya/.config/autostart/2Computer-Startup.ogg: No such file or directory
[21:19] <stromviva> it doesnt see the file
[21:19] <nonya> why it is there
[21:20] <stromviva> open a terminal and cd to the file
[21:20] <stromviva> so cd all the way to the autostart directory
[21:20] <stromviva> and type in the command ls
[21:22] <nonya> busy doing hair cut
[21:22] <nonya> BRB
[21:23] <stromviva> lol thats random
[21:35] <nonya> its all listed
[21:36] <nonya> it was an easy Haircut
[21:37] <nonya> 2Computer_Startup.ogg screensaver-settings.desktop startup sound.desktop~ light-locker.desktop screensaver-settings.desktop~ pulseaudio-kde.desktop startup sound.desktop
[21:38] <stromviva> see the underscore?
[21:38] <stromviva> it's 2Computer_Startup.ogg
[21:38] <stromviva> in your script its with a -
[21:38] <stromviva> you need to change the filename in your script
[21:38] <stromviva> to 2Computer_Startup.ogg
[21:39] <nonya> Got another Hair cut do This later k
[21:39] <stromviva> are you a barber
[21:40] <nonya> yes
[21:41] <stromviva> lol
[21:41] <stromviva> ok that explains it
[21:41] <stromviva> why you need 2 haircuts hahah
[22:12] <nonya> uh ha i see the problem
[22:13] <stromviva> ?
[22:14] <nonya> - _
[22:14] <nonya> BRB
[22:17] <nonya> YeSSSS goterdone it works ;)
[22:17] <nonya> Be back in a little bit gota shut down shop
[22:17] <stromviva> lol ok
[22:18] <stromviva> good
[22:18] <nonya> Thanks a bunch stromviva
[22:18] <nonya> se ya soon
[22:18] <stromviva> no problem
[23:46] <nonya> stromviva
[23:47] <nonya> i guess stormviva is gone
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:36.790423
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"authors": [
"Eliz",
"OmahLinux",
"agenthex",
"holstein",
"lewis1711",
"nonya",
"seed-please",
"stromviva",
"whytrytofly",
"wxl"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/06/04/%23lubuntu.txt",
"channel": "#lubuntu"
}
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2015-06-04-#ubuntu-pl
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[09:22] <drathir> bry...
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:36.792075
| 2015-06-04T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"drathir"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/06/04/%23ubuntu-pl.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-pl"
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2015-06-04-#ubuntu-kernel
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[01:24] <shadeslayer> yo
[01:24] <shadeslayer> When enabling a module, do you enable each of it's dependencies by hand?
[01:24] <shadeslayer> because that sounds mental
[01:25] <shadeslayer> ( for eg. you want a module B that depends on module A, do you go and enable A by hand to be able to enable B? )
[01:30] <infinity> shadeslayer: Do you mean in the configs when building a kernel, or when inserting a module into the running kernel?
[01:30] <shadeslayer> infinity: the former
[01:30] <shadeslayer> I want to build a config from a tree, but want to alter some things afterwards, and apparently I can't because it's parent deps haven't been enabled, so on and so forth
[01:31] <infinity> shadeslayer: Are you using a friendly frontend like menuconfig, or just trying to hammer a CONFIG_ in .config and hope for the best?
[01:32] <shadeslayer> infinity: I've tried the Qt config gui
[01:32] <shadeslayer> and it doesn't let me check the boxes
[01:32] <infinity> Then I guess you've answered your question. :P
[01:32] <shadeslayer> heh
[01:32] <shadeslayer> well, is there a way to automatically enable deps :P
[01:33] <shadeslayer> via make/
[01:34] <infinity> make oldconfig tries to clean up messes you've made, but it may disable your mess rather than enabling deps.
[01:34] <infinity> It's not fool-proof.
[08:38] <apw> shadeslayer, infinity, right it tends to make the config sane which often involves turning things off again, turning things on often involves figuring out the deps slowly and painfully
[15:08] <teward> Greetings, kernel team. Trying to hunt down information to try and wrap my head on something. Someone on Ask Ubuntu posted that they want to get "USB Charging When Powered Off" working. From Sony's documentation (their system is Sony), there's a way to enable it via Windows power management. However, when they follow a provided answer to try and enable it on Linux they don't have any luck. It's my understanding of hardware that this is
[15:08] <teward> something handled at the hardware level, not the software level.
[15:09] <teward> From -devel, a general discussion with dobey suggested that it may be some Sony proprietary stuff from Windows that edits hardware settings, but i'm just trying to cover the bases on this one. Is it my understanding that such a feature would be BIOS/Hardware controlled rather than something the kernel in Ubuntu could set?
[15:10] <teward> (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-lts-utopic/+bug/1461986 was filed on this too)
[19:45] <catbus1> Hi, is there anything the reporters should provide in order to move forward this bug: 1438039?
[21:10] <apw> teward, it is hard to know without someone who knows the bios chiming in to say how it is intended to work, as just interfering with the h/w is dangerous if you don't know what it is gonig to do
[21:12] <apw> catbus1, that bug report seems pretty complete
[21:13] <catbus1> apw: ok, there hasn't been any activity on that bug since 3/30.
[21:13] <apw> catbus1, we get a lot of bugs, finding the ones which are well specified isn't easy
[21:14] <catbus1> ok
[21:16] <jsalisbury> catbus1, I'll take a look at that bug. Are you sure 4cfe878 is the fix for this bug?
[21:17] <apw> catbus1, ok i've marked it up so if that fix comes to us via stable we will notice, it _might_ because it is a dave miller one, and he doesn't allow them to be marked for stable so it is impossible to know which he is intending to
[21:19] <catbus1> jsalisbury: I am not the reporter. Is there any reason why you need confirmation?
[21:19] <catbus1> apw: thanks
[21:19] <catbus1> jsalisbury: I can ask Srini to double check.
[21:20] <jsalisbury> catbus1, I tried to perform a cherry-pick of that commit and it looks like it will also need 5 other commits backported.
[21:20] <jsalisbury> catbus1, that commit is in mainline as of 3.17, so Vivid should have it.
[21:20] <jsalisbury> catbus1, is it possible to test the vivid backport kernel for trusty?
[21:22] <catbus1> jsalisbury: Yes, Srini asked me if there is anything they can help testing with.
[21:22] <catbus1> you will provide the kernel version and how to enable the vivid hwe kernel in trusty in the bug, as usual, right?
[21:23] <jsalisbury> catbus1, correct. I'll update the bug
[21:23] <catbus1> jsalisbury: thank you.
[21:23] <jsalisbury> catbus1, np
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:36.796811
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2015-06-04-#ubuntu+1
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[07:45] <est31> does the 15.10 gcc have colors?
[07:52] <MichaelTiebesl> hi everybody.....just curious if Ubuntu 15.10 already is stable enough for daily use?
[08:07] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:08] <elfy> hi lordievader
[08:09] <lordievader> Hey elfy, how are you doing?
[08:09] <elfy> pretty good thanks - sun for a change ;)
[08:10] <elfy> how's things in your neck of the woods?
[08:10] <lordievader> Sunny too, and rather warm :)
[08:10] <elfy> \o/
[11:44] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:36.799542
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"BluesKaj",
"MichaelTiebesl",
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"lordievader"
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2015-06-04-#ubuntukylin-devel
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[03:20] <dupingping> 你们好。
[03:22] <dupingping> How can i join ubuntu kylin?
[03:22] <dupingping> there is no man?
[03:23] <dupingping> all were died?
[03:24] <maclin1> dupingping: 你好，你对哪部分工作感兴趣？
[03:25] <dupingping> 您看一下， apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/ubuntu-dock/
[03:25] <maclin1> dupingping: 很多人可能都忙着手头工作呢
[03:26] <dupingping> 这个软件是我的。
[03:27] <dupingping> 我有能力。
[03:27] <maclin1> 不好意思，我这网络不好，还没打开。
[03:27] <maclin1> 你有什么想法？
[03:28] <maclin1> 你是找工作还是希望加入社区？
[03:28] <dupingping> my ibus is died now.
[03:28] <dupingping> Can we speak in english now?
[03:29] <dupingping> kylin is china government os, right?
[03:29] <dupingping> maclin1, yes.
[03:29] <maclin1> 我用的fcitx，中文输入挺好的，你可以试试
[03:30] <dupingping> 我是找工作
[03:31] <maclin1> 如果是找工作，可以准备一份个人简历发到[email protected]
[03:32] <dupingping> 谢谢你的帮组。
[03:33] <dupingping> 再见
[03:33] <maclin1> 不客气，欢迎交流，这里通常都是进行技术交流^_^
[03:34] <dupingping> ：）
[08:51] <ypwong> dupingping, screenshot looks good, too bad it's proprietary so i can't test it out
[08:52] <dupingping> ypwong, I need to get enough budget to open this source and continue to develop it.
[08:53] <dupingping> ypwong, If someone fund me to get enough budget, i'll open it as soon.
[08:53] <ypwong> dupingping, how much is enough?
[08:54] <dupingping> $5000
[08:54] <dupingping> ypwong, it's big you guess?
[08:57] <ypwong> dupingping, not small :)
[08:58] <dupingping> yes, i think so. it's big for any one. but if he fund with some others, it's not big i think.
[08:58] <dupingping> I think that it's a kind of donate.
[09:06] <dupingping> please look forward, https://pledgie.com/campaigns/28502
[09:06] <dupingping> ypwong, !
[09:17] <ypwong> dupingping, it looks nice!
[09:17] <dupingping> yes, ypwong.
[09:17] <ypwong> dupingping, try to promote it
[09:17] <dupingping> ypwong, do you have any community?
[09:17] <ypwong> not really
[09:18] <dupingping> ypwong, how can i promote it?
[09:18] <dupingping> ypwong, i don't know how/
[09:19] <ypwong> talk to omg ubuntu?
[09:19] <ypwong> they like to report new apps
[09:19] <ypwong> and also some ubuntu sites in china
[09:19] <dupingping> can you let me know the urls?
[09:20] <ypwong> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/
[09:20] <dupingping> ypwong, do you know Mark Shuttleworth? or Jane Silber?
[09:21] <ypwong> met them before
[09:23] <dupingping> ypwong, are you working in Canonical?
[09:26] <ypwong> yes i am
[09:26] <dupingping> oh, ypwong. I think that Mark Shuttleworth is a hero.
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:36.814858
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2015-06-04-#ubuntu-irc
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[21:42] <ki7mt> Hello all, just got my Ubuntu Membership and would like to request a cloak: ubuntu/member/ki7mt my primary IRC account is registered under SaberX01 and LP account is: https://launchpad.net/~ki7mt ; per the Wiki, it said I should request here?
[21:43] <Fuchs> ki7mt: congratulations on the membership, yes, just wait for someone of the IRCC and then hope that they will find an active staffie
[21:44] <ki7mt> Fuchs, OK, thanks, I'll leave this open until then.
[21:45] <Fuchs> that's a good idea, because usually confirmation is required :)
[21:45] <ki7mt> Yes, I would think so :-) .. I have a generic cloak now, but thought it would be good to update it as well.
[21:49] <hggdh> ki7mt: cloak like your nick?, or like your login on freenode?
[21:50] <Fuchs> apparently like the nick, as per what he wrote
[21:50] <Fuchs> ubuntu/member/ki7mt << (note that roo is currently active, given I haven't seen an active staffer in the 5 hours before, that would be a good catch)
[21:50] <hggdh> aye. bad eyes and all (Unity 8 just installed)
[21:51] * Fuchs ponders trollish comment, doesn't
[21:51] <hggdh> :-)
[21:52] <hggdh> ki7mt: asking for a cloak on #freenode. As Fuchs pointed out, now we wait for a staffer.
[21:53] <ki7mt> Ok hggdh Thank you.
[21:59] <hggdh> Fuchs: (curiosity only) what is happening with the freenode staff? They seem much less active now
[22:00] <Fuchs> hggdh: they are just understaffed after the recent firings, and it's not exactly easy to find decent staff material
[22:01] <Fuchs> while I personally am not very happy with 1) and what did lead to it, I at least can say that I fully agree on 2).
[22:01] <hggdh> Fuchs: ack
[22:01] <Fuchs> well
[22:02] <Fuchs> to be honest I think 2) is partially also a solvable problem. Or was. Currently there really isn't decent staff material around. Anyway. I might be heavily biased
[22:02] * hggdh wonders why ;-)
[22:02] <hggdh> Fuchs: thank you for your prod there, BTW
[22:04] <Fuchs> you're welcome, let's see if it helps
[22:04] <ki7mt> I have a meeting I just got called to, will leave this open, hopefully I won't miss their queries.
[22:06] <Fuchs> oh, or that might do *tries prodding Pricey with a muffin*
[22:06] <Pricey> Fuchs?
[22:06] <Fuchs> yay
[22:06] <Fuchs> PriceChilde: hggdh needed an ubuntu member cloak for ki7mt :)
[22:07] <hggdh> PriceChilde: if you have time, yes
[22:07] <PriceChilde> ki7mt: Assuming you want this?
[22:08] <hggdh> cloak ubuntu/member/ki7mt for SaberX01
[22:08] <Fuchs> he just left for a meeting, hope he'll get back to it later :)
[22:09] <PriceChilde> Meh, I'll trust you this time.
[22:09] <Fuchs> ♥
[22:09] <hggdh> :-)
[22:10] <hggdh> PriceChilde: thank you
[22:11] <PriceChilde> hggdh: No probs.
[22:34] <ki7mt> I back .. if there's anything one needs form me on my cloak request?
[22:35] <Fuchs> ki7mt: it got taken care of :)
[22:35] <ki7mt> Fuchs, Thank you !!
[22:35] <Fuchs> fortunately a friendly member of staff was not only found but happy to skip the usual procedure, so congratulations on your new and shiny cloak
[22:35] <Fuchs> it comes with a dagger and half a muffin
[22:36] <ki7mt> I've been after UB membership for a long time .. Now Im after Bug Control (lots to learn) and hopefully into MOTU
[22:43] <ki7mt> Thanks for all the help, roo sent me a message saying all is well. Take care.
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:36.829514
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2015-06-04-#maas
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[09:21] <vibol> Hello :)
[10:05] <mup> Bug #1461863 was opened: 1.8rc1: number of different failures in maas.log due to '... [Errno 24] too many open files ...' <oil> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1461863>
[11:05] <solsTiCe> hi. So I have setup an interface to be dhcp and dns managed by maas clsuter controler. but interface still does not any ip and dhcp is down.
[14:21] <mup> Bug #1461977 was opened: Unused "Check component compatibility and certification" field should be removed <MAAS:New for mpontillo> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1461977>
[17:03] <mup> Bug #1462019 was opened: 1.8rc1: UI hangs after doing block Mark Broken of 3 failed releasing servers <oil> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1462019>
[17:03] <mup> Bug #1462029 was opened: Filters don't clear if there are no more machines for that filter <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1462029>
[17:03] <mup> Bug #1462030 was opened: Filters don't clear if there are no more machines for that filter <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1462030>
[19:00] <kiko> garibaldi, the exact maas cli command is in the pastebin I pasted you
[20:18] <mup> Bug #1462078 was opened: Can't add a device and it does not show why <MAAS:Confirmed for blake-rouse> <MAAS 1.8:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1462078>
[20:18] <mup> Bug #1462079 was opened: Devices can't add a device with a Static IP address outside of dyanmic/static range <MAAS:Confirmed for blake-rouse> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1462079>
[20:35] <c4tech_> Hi Team! Does maas have good support for bonding and LACP?
[20:35] <c4tech_> I searched the documentation and didn't find anything on this/
[20:36] <c4tech_> The question is mostly in regards to post installation support.
[22:26] <mup> Bug #1462136 opened: 1.8rc2: Cluster periodically disconnecting and reconnecting <oil> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1462136>
[22:38] <mup> Bug #1462136 changed: 1.8rc2: Cluster periodically disconnecting and reconnecting <oil> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1462136>
[22:50] <mup> Bug #1462136 opened: 1.8rc2: Cluster periodically disconnecting and reconnecting <oil> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1462136>
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:36.833762
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2015-06-04-#ubuntu-co-meeting
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[16:20] <Ubuntero|81925> buenos dias. Alguien sabe quien o donde consigue stikers de ubuntu para un portatil?
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:36.834599
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2015-06-04-#ubuntu-unity
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[11:17] <Mirv> greyback: can you slip https://code.launchpad.net/~timo-jyrinki/qtubuntu/build_dep_libinput-dev_qt55/+merge/254365 into a landing at some point?
[11:17] <greyback> Mirv: ack, will do
[11:18] <Mirv> thanks, not a huge problem but nice to have for no-change rebuild tests
[13:02] <kgunn> dednick: just following up on inline video/audio, ready to rock?
[13:02] <kgunn> as in land :)
[13:36] <dednick> kgunn: still some issues
[13:37] <dednick> jim is working on them
[22:06] <hggdh> this is cool (but wrong) updated Wily to latest, rebooted; dual-monitor setup lost, reset it; got a message on a different pane to accept/reject the config (found it 1200 seconds later)
[22:07] <hggdh> the message currently states the config will be reversed in -1246 seconds
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:36.837049
| 2015-06-04T00:00:00 |
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2015-06-04-#ubuntustudio
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[07:13] <Guest38583> Good morning folks. Just wanted to come on here and express my gratitude for Ubuntu Studio. Been using it for a few weeks now and it runs my audio visuals great.
[07:13] <zequence> Guest38583: Nice to hear that!
[07:13] <cfhowlett> Guest38583, glad it works for you!
[07:13] <Guest38583> I should also state, I am using mate desktop installed over the top with no issues at all
[07:14] <Guest38583> that's mate 1.8 for clarity
[07:15] <Guest38583> the main reason for using US is because i have found ot to be by far the most stable linux distro when using QjackCTL with things like qsynth, rosegarden etc
[07:15] <Guest38583> thanks again folks...bye for now
[07:21] <stephen_> hi again folks...just thought I'd share a youtube link of what i am currently using Ubuntu studio for....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRpDbe5hQJE
[07:27] <zequence> stephen_: Nice to see the menu works well in Mate as well :)
[07:30] <stephen_> it works, but there is a hell of a lot of redundancy....lol. that is to say, i need to go in there and remove where it has repeated stuff. but no big deal really.
[07:32] <zequence> Yes, we are working on the menu to make it more universal. But, might not be ready until X release, the next LTS
[07:36] <stephen_> it's no problem. Everything works okay....I can't believe I had never tried Ubuntu Studio before now. It just has everything on board running perfectly that I normally have to install after the fact with other linux distros.
[10:16] <luca__> ciao
[10:16] <luca__> bestie
[14:51] <andersonid> hi folks
[14:52] <andersonid> this linux distro is awesome! damn! so nice!
[14:54] <andersonid> see ya
[14:57] * LikeVinyl is away: a cocinar!
[17:27] <siwyborsuk> hello guys
[17:27] <siwyborsuk> someone here?
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:36.840683
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2015-06-04-#ubuntu-us-pa
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[09:22] <rmg51> Morning
[12:22] <teddy-dbear> Morning peoples, critters and everything else
[17:59] <_nomad> good afternoon
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:36.841569
| 2015-06-04T00:00:00 |
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"_nomad",
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2015-06-04-#ubuntu-news
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[00:23] <jose> pleia2: the top links on fridge redirect to ubuntu-news.org and ubuntu-news.org/about, should I file an RT to get those changed to fridge.u.c and fridge.u.c/about?
[01:10] <pleia2> jose: yeah, sounds like another odd problem post-upgrade
[01:11] <pleia2> no response yet on rt 26581
[01:20] <jose> huh. I'll push.
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:36.842650
| 2015-06-04T00:00:00 |
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2015-06-04-#ubuntu-gr
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[07:55] <salih-emin> ποιος είναι Σαλόνικα ?
[07:55] <salih-emin> Anoniem4l, είσαι εδώ ρε μούτρο ?
[08:59] <salih-emin> Euaki, hello
[08:59] <Euaki> Καλωσήρθες sto #ubuntu-gr, salih-emin!
[08:59] <Euaki> Γεια σου και καλωσόρισες στο #ubuntu-gr
[08:59] <salih-emin> Euaki, νέα ?
[08:59] <Euaki> Δεν έχω τίποτα στη βάση δεδομένων μου σχετικά με νέα ? . Βοήθησε με να μάθω περισσότερα!
[09:00] <salih-emin> Euaki, Euaki
[09:00] <Euaki> Είμαι το Ευάκι, το αγαπημένο κορίτσι του #ubuntu-gr
[09:00] <salih-emin> Euaki, euaki
[09:01] <salih-emin> xaxaaxaxax boot loop
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:36.846676
| 2015-06-04T00:00:00 |
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"Euaki",
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2015-06-04-#ubuntu-community-team
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[07:03] <dholbach> good morning
[07:07] <MooDoo> morning
[07:26] <elfy> morning all
[07:54] <davidcalle> Morning all o/
[13:44] <silverlion> o/ everybody
[14:20] * dholbach relocates, brb
[14:35] <silverlion> wb d
[14:35] <silverlion> dholbach:
[14:39] <dholbach> :)
[15:07] <silverlion> how is your day dholbach ?
[15:08] <dholbach> good - the sun is shining, I managed to run a few errands and organise a few things, so yeah, going well - how's yours?
[15:14] <silverlion> quiet ^^
[15:14] <silverlion> doing some translation stuff for software I am using
[15:14] <silverlion> but other then that it's an ordinary day off ^^
[15:26] <dholbach> cool
[15:26] <dholbach> good weather over there too?
[15:28] <popey> yeah, sunny here too!
[15:43] <silverlion> dholbach: I've had to darken my rooms to get them cool ^^
[15:43] <silverlion> there are 35 degrees tomorrow coming in from the netherlands
[15:43] <dholbach> wow
[21:02] <mhall119> popey: are we recording tomorrow?
[21:02] <popey> mhall119: yup
[21:03] <popey> thats come round quick, completely forgot about it.
[21:03] <popey> will prep in the morning
[21:03] <mhall119> popey: did the emails go out? I don't remember seeing one
[21:05] <popey> you didn't get it?
[21:05] <popey> did it go to your spam folder?
[21:05] <popey> its a bit spammy :)
[21:05] <mhall119> it might have
[21:07] <mhall119> not seeing it
[21:07] <popey> bah
[21:08] <popey> I used this boomerang tool to send it,
[21:08] <popey> hmm, yeah, its not in my sent stuf, crap.
[21:08] <popey> Ok, plan B :)
[21:08] <elfy> awesome boomerang
[21:08] <popey> it didnt come back
[21:09] <elfy> lol
[21:09] <popey> I will go through the various updates people have sent. and compile some data for us to share.
[21:09] <popey> sorry mhall119
[21:09] <mhall119> popey: that means it was just a stick
[21:09] <popey> indeed
[21:09] <mhall119> popey: no worries, I just couldn't remember if it was this week or next
[21:09] <mhall119> works out better this week, since I'll be at SELF/UbuCon next Friday
[21:10] <popey> ok
[21:10] * popey goes afk for a bit
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[06:49] <Vlado9A3CY> dobro jutro
[06:57] <dodobas> yutro...
[07:13] <drj_cro> jutro
[07:16] <Vlado9A3CY> idem vidjet' kakvo je vani vrijeme :)
[07:16] <Vlado9A3CY> pod svoj suncobran :)
[07:17] <Vlado9A3CY> brb
[07:37] <Vlado9A3CY> kofi in a shade :)
[09:17] <ivoks> Mmike: imamo neku novu kolegicu u uredu
[09:17] <ivoks> hm hm hm
[09:17] <ivoks> sigurno nije engleskinja
[11:17] <markosejic> d dan
[13:01] <weshmashian> mornin'
[15:36] <Mmike> ivoks: kojem uredu? :)
[15:39] <ivoks> london
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2015-06-04-#ubuntu-my
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[11:49] <repeater_my> oit najmi
[11:49] <mypapit> oittt oitt oitt najmi
[11:49] <mypapit> w00f w00f
[12:00] <najmi> mypapit: lol
[12:12] <mypapit> najmi, buat apa tu?
[12:12] <mypapit> najmi, ko ada lagi tak box digital ocean?
[12:24] <najmi> credit ada tapi tak guna
[12:24] <najmi> skrg try vultr
[12:24] <najmi> ni aku guna vultr as IRC quassel-core
[12:25] <najmi> register guna link aku ;) http://www.vultr.com/?ref=6834843
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2015-06-04-#ubuntu-discuss
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[06:04] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[06:10] <histo> hola
[08:07] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:56] <lotuspsychje> ruenoak, pikos hi
[09:57] <ruenoak> hey hows it going
[09:57] <lotuspsychje> ruenoak: all good here and you?
[09:58] <ruenoak> ya all good
[09:58] <lotuspsychje> im trying to get all #ubuntu supporters here
[09:58] <lotuspsychje> we always do support
[09:58] <lotuspsychje> but never have a chance to talk to each other
[09:58] <lotuspsychje> histo: hi mate :p
[09:59] <histo> ahh
[09:59] <lordievader> There is no #ubuntu-offtopic?
[09:59] <histo> didn't know what you were doing with this room
[10:00] <lotuspsychje> lordievader: offtopic is too crowdy
[10:00] <lotuspsychje> and not all supporters there
[10:00] <lotuspsychje> and this channel was never very active
[10:00] <ruenoak> I don't see allot of activity but maybe I am here at the wrong times
[10:00] <lotuspsychje> so im trying to gather only the nice guys volunteers
[10:00] <lotuspsychje> ruenoak: yeah timezones :p
[10:01] <lotuspsychje> so here we can chitchat about ubuntu support and other nice ubuntu topics
[10:01] <lotuspsychje> histo: what was your ssd brand again?
[10:05] <histo> lotuspsychje: SanDisk
[10:05] <histo> cheap
[10:05] <lotuspsychje> cool
[10:06] <lotuspsychje> i still have an old transcend 8gig
[10:06] <lotuspsychje> with ubuntu64bit and goes rocketfast
[10:06] <histo> lotuspsychje: but this 5 year old laptop boots in about 7 seconds
[10:06] <lotuspsychje> my netbook has samsung evo 840
[10:06] <lotuspsychje> histo: yeah, old or new ssd are lighting on linux :p
[10:07] <lotuspsychje> histo: you running preload?
[10:07] <histo> http://ark.intel.com/products/40739/Intel-Pentium-Processor-T4400-1M-Cache-2_20-GHz-800-MHz-FSB-Socket-P
[10:07] * histo needs a new laptop
[10:07] <histo> lotuspsychje: no
[10:07] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: welcome :p
[10:07] <EriC^^> thx :p
[10:07] <lotuspsychje> !info preload | histo nice with ssd's
[10:10] <histo> lotuspsychje: the system is pretty quick without that.
[10:11] <histo> I just need to get cpu virtualization support on my next laptop
[10:11] <lotuspsychje> histo: for what purpose
[10:12] <lotuspsychje> popey: we had a user here yesterday asking if he can install cinnamon on ubuntu-mate, would you know that?
[10:13] <histo> lotuspsychje: I muck around with vms quite a bit.
[10:13] <popey> lotuspsychje: not sure why you're asking me :)
[10:13] <histo> s/vms/VMs/
[10:14] <lotuspsychje> popey: i saw you on the topic change of #ubuntu-mate
[10:14] <popey> the standard answer to any "can I install..." is "is it in the repo?" "if not, is there a ppa?" etc
[10:14] <popey> no, more that it's a very generic question, not specific to mate, is what I mean
[10:14] <lotuspsychje> ok
[11:44] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[18:17] <Retina> hell fellas
[18:17] <Retina> how are you doing tonight?
[18:17] <Retina> I want to discuss something
[18:17] <Retina> :)
[18:17] <Retina> what do you think kali tools on ubuntu 15.04 desktop
[18:22] <lordievader> Retina: Use 'em in a vm.
[18:22] <Retina> lordievader why not install directly every tools?
[18:22] <daftykins> i think if you want Kali, use Kali - if you want Ubuntu - use Ubuntu
[18:22] <Retina> will it create security leak on system?
[18:22] <Retina> :) I want some kali tools on ubuntu
[18:22] <daftykins> why
[18:23] <daftykins> they're probably designed to work properly with Kali
[18:23] <lordievader> No, but it is good to have a clean machine.
[18:23] <lordievader> Set up a vm with Kali Linux, everything is preinstalled. No need to do any configuration yourself.
[18:29] <OerHeks> If you want to impress your future employer, install them all :-D
[18:29] <daftykins> if i were an employer i would be more impressed at using those tools for legitimate purposes, not just having them installed ;)
[18:31] <lordievader> OerHeks: Just having them is not enough. Knowing how to use them, that is the trick ;)
[18:33] <OerHeks> Yeah oke, i wouldn't install them anyway, as one should use them in single user mode AFAIK
[18:34] <OerHeks> first backtrack, now cali, is there a followup yet?
[18:34] <lordievader> Kali is Backtrack. They renamed it.
[22:38] <tsimonq2> There is a Google+ community for Ubuntu! https://plus.google.com/communities/107299007624972266094
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2015-06-04-#ubuntu
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[00:03] <randomname> Does anyone happen to know how to tell Ubuntu server where to install? It actually installed on the space where I formatted a new partition, but it never asked me where to install it and it amazed me by not overwriting my Kubuntu install on the other hard drive.
[00:05] <randomname> Evidently not. Someone at a linux meetup just showed me this chat and here I am chatting, as randomname
[00:06] <scatterp> hi
[00:06] <scatterp> typically you have to wait a while :)
[00:06] <randomname> Hi!
[00:06] <william_vilas> hi
[00:07] <scatterp> during the install you should see a page where it asks you to set up partitions thats where you select the location
[00:07] <randomname> I set up a partition but if there was a place to select the location I missed it.
[00:08] <william_vilas> someone from brazil ?
[00:09] <scatterp> william i speak spanish
[00:09] <scatterp> randomname, yeah you missed it watch a youtube video of the install process to see it again
[00:10] <william_vilas> i speak spanish little scatterp
[00:10] <xangua> !pt
[00:11] <william_vilas> xangua: yes
[00:11] <randomname> What specific You Tube video, on how to install Ubuntu Server?
[00:11] <Bashing-om> randomname: When prior partitioning for install, at the installer choode "somethiong else" ; then Make sure you have the drive you want to install onto is selected, and the partiton .
[00:11] <scatterp> randomname, one sec
[00:11] <william_vilas> xangua: kkkkkkkkkkkkkk
[00:12] <randomname> Might be the issue - I hadn't yet created the partition. Still had to format it.
[00:13] <scatterp> randomname, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RghpdQH1bpo (9:43 main part you want to see)
[00:13] <EriC^^> randomname: if it sees unallocated space the installer will use that to install ubuntu, i think
[00:14] <happyfr0gg> I am using XFCE in Ubuntu with LXDE installed as well and am not able to change my login background. How do I fix this?
[00:14] <randomname> There was also whether I was supposed to make it bootable, it said if I did Grub might blow up or something so I didn't, and until I screwed up OpenBox and uninstalled it, my system could only find two of the three installations on my system at a time; either one on each drive or two on one drive.
[00:14] <randomname> And talk about blowing up Grub, I had to reinstall Grub on the OS on the OTHER hard drive.
[00:15] <scatterp> randomname, common issue
[00:16] <happyfr0gg> How do I change my login picture?
[00:25] <scatterp> i have a ubuntu system (unknown version) that i need to recover root on adding init=/bin/bash to the boot line results in file not found i was thinking to make a usb boot stick if no one else has suggestions and change root password that way unless there is another option ?
[00:25] <EriC^^> scatterp: you can try advanced > recovery from grub
[00:26] <scatterp> hrm sec
[00:26] <EriC^^> scatterp: you have to know the root password though, unless you haven't enabled the root account
[00:26] <scatterp> EriC^^, i see something like this http://cdn2.howtogeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/sshot169.png
[00:26] <scatterp> EriC^^, i dont know the root pass
[00:27] <EriC^^> have you enabled the root account?
[00:27] <cheetahw26> is there an easy way to identify all packages on one system, then write a script to install those packages on another system? I have one box with armhf and the other with i386 architecture and I just want same packages or relative on both
[00:27] <scatterp> EriC^^, yes i think so
[00:27] <scatterp> EriC^^, its a machine i last used 10 years ago and my account dont seem to exist anymore
[00:28] <EriC^^> scatterp: try a live usb i guess
[00:28] <scatterp> EriC^^, yeah so my original Q was which one just a live ubuntu ? and what to do once its booted?
[00:29] <cheetahw26> would something like... dpkg -l|cut -d ' ' -f3 >> some file... and then copy that file over, then run some loop to install everything be the best way?
[00:29] <EriC^^> live ubuntu would work, once it's booted mount the partitions and then chroot
[00:29] <scatterp> cheetahw26, thats more or less what i was thinking yes
[00:30] <OerHeks> "apt --installed list" or see http://askubuntu.com/questions/17823/how-to-list-all-installed-packages
[00:30] <EriC^^> cheetahw26: you can get a list of the packages with dpkg --get-selections > /path/to/packagelist
[00:30] <scatterp> cheetahw26, you might be able to just write "apt-get install" at the begining of the file and then sh myfile after that
[00:30] <OerHeks> But versions and archtecture, not sure all packages are there or needed or comming short
[00:31] <cheetahw26> yeah... seems like that might take forever though... wonder how or if it would be better to skip already installed
[00:31] <EriC^^> just use install instead of install --reinstall
[00:31] <EriC^^> it wouldn't reinstall
[00:31] <cheetahw26> apt-get -y install $x
[00:32] <scatterp> EriC^^, what do i do once its booted?
[00:32] <EriC^^> cheetahw26: this will give you a way shorter list
[00:32] <EriC^^> comm -23 <(apt-mark showmanual | sort -u) <(gzip -dc /var/log/installer/initial-status.gz | sed -n 's/^Package: //p' | sort -u)
[00:33] <EriC^^> assuming both are using the same version of ubuntu though and are up to date
[00:33] <cheetahw26> yeah... they are, just different archs
[00:33] <EriC^^> scatterp: type sudo parted -l and paste in paste.ubuntu.com
[00:33] <cheetahw26> what does that comm command do?
[00:33] <cheetahw26> that list is way shorter...
[00:34] <EriC^^> cheetahw26: it compares the installed packages to the initially installed ones and finds the one that weren't there in the initial install
[00:34] <scatterp> EriC^^, wont have access to the machine until tomorrow
[00:34] <cheetahw26> on my armhf box I get an error about /var/log/installer/initial-status.gz...
[00:35] <cheetahw26> not found
[00:35] <scatterp> EriC^^, lets use this for example http://paste.ubuntu.com/11553486/
[00:35] <EriC^^> scatterp: mount the partitions, if you have a single "/" mount it to /mnt , if you have a separate boot partition mount it to /mnt/boot
[00:36] <scatterp> yeah then ?
[00:36] <EriC^^> then sudo chroot /mnt , you'll get a root prompt, type passwd <your user> to set the password
[00:36] <cheetahw26> all well...
[00:36] <scatterp> EriC^^, nice thanks :)
[00:38] <scatterp> EriC^^, then sudo reboot and remove the stick at the bios screen right ?
[00:38] <cheetahw26> I'm going to do a check against dpkg -l list... apt-get on all of those will consume time
[00:38] <EriC^^> scatterp: yeah, then type exit to exit the chroot and reboot
[00:39] <scatterp> thx
[00:39] <EriC^^> np
[00:40] <william__> I have linux mint 17.1 cinnamon, and my Qtransmission Bittorrent Client has no Icon. How do I get the Icon ?
[00:41] <Ben64> ask the mint support channel, #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org
[00:44] <randomname> I've got a question. I seem to have Oops errors caused by probably XScreensaver (for Kubuntu or KDE) messing with my video drivers. Got rid of XScreensaver but it installed ten million libraries, some of them outmoded.
[00:45] <psusi> randomname, ok... so what's the question?
[00:46] <randomname> Anyhow, I got left wtih Oops erros followed by hang, the traceback focuses on the nouveau, which is the Linux version nvidea drivers, and the repeated passthroughs spread to involve Cairo Dock, which is all advanced graphical driver.
[00:47] <psusi> and?
[00:47] <randomname> So over a week ago I reinstalled the Nvidia version of the nvidia drivers, but evidently it's still using the nouveau ones. How to fix?
[00:47] <psusi> ohh... that's odd...
[00:48] <EriC^^> randomname: blacklist them
[00:48] <randomname> how?
[00:48] <randomname> Think I encountered this with the drivers for the former network interface card on my laptop. Notice the word former.
[00:48] <EriC^^> echo "blacklist nouveau" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[00:50] <EriC^^> randomname: then sudo update-initramfs -u -k all
[00:51] <randomname> Are you telling me I have to do the sudo mdprobe -r (what I don't want to use) and then sudo modprobe what I do want to use, like I did with the former wireless (not nic) card and the default network manager that I changed ti WICD because it's easier to use?
[00:52] <randomname> Only with the video drivers instead of the wireless drivers?
[00:52] <EriC^^> randomname: no
[00:52] <randomname> Help me, Lord.
[00:52] <EriC^^> blacklist the driver, update the initrd and reboot
[00:53] <psusi> randomname, umm.. no... you can't remove a module that is in use.. he's telling you to blacklist the module so it won't ever be used, update your initrd, and reboot
[00:53] <randomname> So after I blacklist nouveau, how do I make it use the nvidia drivers?
[00:53] <EriC^^> if you have it installed it should use it i guess
[00:53] <randomname> Also, would remove nouveau in a more global way actually get rid of it?
[00:53] <randomname> Can try it.
[00:53] <psusi> it should already be using it, but then it should certainly use it if nouveau is not even an option
[00:54] <randomname> OK. I'll give it a try. Evil chuckle.
[00:55] <EriC^^> /var/log/Xorg.0.log might tell you more about what's going on
[00:55] <randomname> Thanks! I will definitely take a look at it.
[00:56] <randomname> Is there a specific X error log?
[00:56] <randomname> Also, would the window manager have logs that would tell me anything? It's Kubuntu with the window manager that came with it.
[00:57] <psusi> ./var/log/Xorg.0.log
[00:57] <randomname> That's the error log? Or the log that will show me errors?
[00:58] <EriC^^> randomname: it's a log and (EE) are errors
[00:58] <randomname> Oh, why the . in front of ./var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[00:58] <psusi> <dumb look> the error log is the log that will show you errors...
[00:58] <psusi> so that IRC didn't interpret it as a command
[01:01] <EriC^^> randomname: the desktop manager might have some info, /var/log/kdm i guess, but more likely the graphics errors might be in Xorg.0.log
[01:02] <randomname> Thanks!
[01:03] <EriC^^> np
[01:06] <hermaeus-mora> hey all
[01:06] <PoolShark_> hey
[01:07] <hermaeus-mora> i am testing a new irc client
[01:08] <PoolShark_> The Mint people sent me here... I'm trying to find out why snapshot functionality has been stripped from the version of virt-manager that ships with Ubuntu/Mint...
[01:09] <randomname> Hey, I've got my own Mint altered it and what did they do questions - and I've not been able to find answers ANYWHERE. Starting with the different way APT works.
[01:10] <randomname> I think reason is to prove they're superior beings - honestly. Ask how to work APT and all you get is let know your place in the superior being world.
[01:10] <randomname> Now, I must say THIS chat is so different - I was told people are helpful here, and... Wow!
[01:10] <cheetahw26> I haven't played with mint yet... what are the advantages of it?
[01:12] <randomname> I honestly haven't found where it has any. It looks ugly, it works different, and you can't get help. It appears newbie friendly upfront until the first time you have any problem. I'm sure glad I didn't put it on the computer my friend bought
[01:13] <randomname> I was told drivers tend to work better in Mint. Usually they work the same. When they dno't Ubuntu has the advantage.
[01:14] <randomname> Many differences in what works have to do with changes to the file structure.
[01:14] <PoolShark_> Yeah I am on the fence about Mint... I have a quad-core Kabini with 16GB RAM and I feel like I'm using a 386
[01:14] <somsip> !mint
[01:14] <somsip> So it's very much offtopic here
[01:16] <randomname> I hear you. Won't help to seek help on Mint help forums though.
[01:16] <randomname> Definitely not where to look for objectivity on using Mint.
[01:20] <randomname> nick villandra
[01:20] <Radar> We just had apparmor cost us about an hour of downtime
[01:20] <Radar> How can we investigate why the apparmor rules changed?
[01:21] <Radar> Is there a guide for apparmor that I can read?
[01:25] <wastrel> the main purpose of mint is that they install non-free stuff by default i believe
[01:25] <wastrel> not that i know anything about mint
[01:25] <tgm4883> Radar: you may want to ask in #ubuntu-server
[01:26] <Radar> tgm4883: thanks
[01:26] <randomname> There's a ubuntu-server?
[01:27] <randomname> That's the main PURPOSE of Mint? But I install the nonfree stuff when I do the first ten things you do in Ubuntu after I install Ubuntu.
[01:27] <randomname> I've got a page and its link saved. I'm no thome though.
[01:28] <EriC^^> mint is supposed to be less bloaty and more practical i guess
[01:29] <Ben64> either way, mint does not belong in #ubuntu
[01:30] <randomname> Well, it has hardly any software. In theory you can use Ubuntu repositories but when you do half the time it doesnt work and if you ask for help you get told Naughty Naughty, don't mess with stuff beyond your ability because you're no account anyway.
[01:30] <randomname> AND you shouldn't be using Ubunt because people who do taht aren't even human. Or something.
[01:30] <EriC^^> ubuntu is usually called linux for humans
[01:30] <randomname> AND we dont talk about Ubuntu here. STRICTLY taboo. I don't think so!
[01:31] <randomname> I've never seen such attitudes, and in my 58 years of living, I've definitely seen attitudes.
[01:31] <randomname> LOL. Thank you, EriC!
[01:33] <EriC^^> it's all just distros in the end, i've only ever been to their support channel once, but they were really helpful
[01:34] <randomname> I guess there's no such thing as "just distros".
[01:34] <randomname> I didn't find anyone connected with Mint helpful. Possible we were on different support channels, I went to the default one.
[01:41] <DylanRJ> Has anyone gotten Ubuntu on a Chromebook Pixel 2? Not with Crouton, but with a regular install?
[01:41] <n-iCe> how do I stop Ubuntu to ask me about the keyring password or something like that
[01:41] <parsec2284> hi how do i browse te pay for apps on ubuntu
[01:41] <parsec2284> i have ubuntu studio
[01:41] <parsec2284> 15.04
[01:42] <parsec2284> i see no way to check out the pay store
[01:42] <Ben64> open the software center
[01:42] <parsec2284> would like to see if anything attracts my interest
[01:42] <xangua> n-iCe: disable automatic login
[01:43] <DylanRJ> If you don't have the software center for whatever reason, open the Terminal and type "sudo apt-get install software-center"
[01:43] <parsec2284> its open but i see no pay for products
[01:43] <n-iCe> xangua: not that password, the keyring password
[01:43] <DylanRJ> That's because most of the stuff available on Linux is free
[01:43] <parsec2284> on ubuntu studio lxde 15.04
[01:43] <parsec2284> true
[01:43] <parsec2284> but
[01:43] <DylanRJ> What type of stuff are you looking for?
[01:43] <parsec2284> pixel art tools
[01:43] <DylanRJ> You can install Steam and buy games on there if you'd like
[01:44] <DylanRJ> install GIMP, it can do pixel art well
[01:44] <wastrel> are you good at pixel art DylanRJ
[01:44] <parsec2284> i remember seeing a commercial painting app in ubuntu store that was really cool
[01:44] <DylanRJ> I'm not a pixel artist, or any kind of artist for that matter
[01:44] <parsec2284> i try
[01:45] <DylanRJ> I just know GIMP is a good graphics and photo editing software from what everyone says
[01:45] <parsec2284> gimp is alright
[01:45] <parsec2284> it hard to do isometric lines
[01:45] <wastrel> gimp has afaik zero pixel art tools
[01:46] <parsec2284> this is true
[01:46] <DylanRJ> What do you need other than the pencil tool?
[01:46] <parsec2284> i would like to see the ubuntu store apps
[01:46] <parsec2284> to see if they have any cool painting programs
[01:47] <parsec2284> i saw a really cool commercial paint progam a while back
[01:47] <parsec2284> but i cant see the commercial apps in the store
[01:47] <parsec2284> just free
[01:47] <parsec2284> using 15.04 lxde
[01:47] <xangua> (20:42:25) Ben64: open the software center
[01:47] <parsec2284> do i need to be using the rgular ubuntu
[01:48] <Ben64> on the top where it says "all software" change that to "for purchase"
[01:48] <parsec2284> i did
[01:48] <parsec2284> k
[01:48] <DylanRJ> Just curious, why do you want to pay for software so bad?
[01:48] <parsec2284> i did try that
[01:48] <parsec2284> its empty
[01:48] <parsec2284> thats the problem
[01:48] <parsec2284> should list commercial apps
[01:49] <parsec2284> because i like what i saw
[01:50] <wastrel> maybe you don't have the partner repos enabled?
[01:50] <parsec2284> ok
[01:50] <parsec2284> let me try to enable them
[01:51] <DylanRJ> Does anyone here use Ubuntu MATE?
[01:59] <xangua> !ask | DylanRJ
[01:59] <DylanRJ> I didn't ask to ask a question, did I?
[02:00] <DylanRJ> Sorry if it sounds like I did
[02:03] <somsip> DylanRJ: just ask your real question
[02:04] <dugler> hi people, can I do ssh to a server if I have private key of that server?
[02:05] <somsip> dugler: the server needs the public key relating to the private key you are using
[02:05] <Democulous> Hello, no matter what I do, I cannot install Wine on Ubuntu 15.04, wine : Depends: wine1.6 but it is not going to be installed
[02:06] <Democulous> wine1.6 : Depends: wine1.6-i386 (= 1:1.6.2-0ubuntu8) but it is not installable
[02:06] <dugler> somsip: couldn't get you well, do you mean public key of system from which I want to access server should be authorized by server?
[02:07] <somsip> dugler: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/SSH_keys#Background
[02:08] <k1lumin4t1> Hi there
[02:08] <k1lumin4t1> I've recently upgraded to Ubuntu 15.04 through the ubuntu update manager; but now KDE session won't start
[02:08] <k1lumin4t1> Any other Desktop Envrionment loads correctly
[02:10] <dugler> somsip: I am aware of it, but the thing is I got a client, he sent me mail with an attachment 'server_key.pem' I can't even open file that is password protected. In the mail he stated please find attached private key to have ssh access to the server
[02:10] <somsip> dugler: is the server on AWS?
[02:10] <dugler> this thing making me confuse, wondering if there is a way I could ssh with only server's private key
[02:10] <dugler> somsip: yes it is on AWS
[02:11] <somsip> dugler: ssh -i server_key.pem user@address (should work if you have correct user)
[02:11] <somsip> dugler: the pem is a particular format of public key generated within the AWS account and applied to that server
[02:12] <dugler> somsip: I don't even know user name :s
[02:12] <wastrel> try root
[02:12] <somsip> dugler: if it's runnig ubuntu, assume ubuntu. It should not have root enabled for any reason
[02:12] <dugler> wastrel: going to try it, thanks
[02:13] <somsip> dugler: the standard AWS AMIs all use ubuntu as the common user
[02:15] <somsip> s/all/that I've used
[02:15] <dugler> somsip: I am getting Permissions 0640 for 'BN_ERP_Key.pem' are too open.
[02:15] <maxxxxx> Heyo what changes between 14 and 15 on utopic unicorn?
[02:16] <maxxxxx> Anything major?
[02:16] <somsip> dugler: change it to 600 (chmod 600 server_key.pem)
[02:16] <dugler> WARNING: UNPROTECTED PRIVATE KEY FILE!
[02:16] <mapu> good evening. I have a package whos status is showing "iU" - what does that mean?
[02:17] <dugler> somsip: thank you, it worked
[02:17] <somsip> dugler: so you're sorted?
[02:17] <dugler> so should I copy public key of my system to server?
[02:17] <dugler> somsip: yes I am in
[02:18] <dugler> with 'ubuntu'
[02:18] <dugler> root was not allowed , it was on bitnami so bitnami is also working
[02:18] <dugler> thanks
[02:18] <somsip> dugler: you do not need to add your own public key. User ubuntu has been set up with a key-pair and you have the private key. I said public earlier - I was wrong
[02:19] <dugler> somsip: so everytime I should access in same way?
[02:19] <somsip> dugler: yes (see man ssh_config to set up easier access)
[02:19] <dugler> I mean like ssh -i server_key.pem user@address
[02:19] <somsip> dugler: yes
[02:20] <dugler> okay thanks
[02:21] <misiek> jest ktoś z polski
[02:22] <somsip> !pl | Mike9863
[02:23] <hades777> hy all,,,, can help me to restore default source.list ?
[02:25] <scatterp> can any one help me with why ubuntu wont boot with the toram flag ?
[02:27] <deadmund> I'm trying to get mpdscribble working on my system. It seems to work fine when I run it from the command line, but not when I run it using "sudo service mpdscribble restart" It isn't even logging anything when I call it via the service command. What am I doing wrong??
[02:30] <Bashing-om> mapu: The 1st flag 'i' is the desired status, in this case "installed", the 2nd flag 'u" is the status. here 'u' is unpacked . So, it is only unpacked but not fully installed ( what ever the ap is ) .
[02:31] <mapu> ok- thanks - that is what I *thought8 but wasnt sure.
[02:32] <hower> Ok
[02:33] <hower> Wehe Are to Set hootle？
[02:44] <squabbler> I need help figuring out why I keep getting forbidden error when trying to access dev environment via browser localhost/folder-name, which has been symlinked from default html folder to a dev folder in documents - permissions are confusing me
[02:47] <dupingping> hi everyone
[02:47] <dupingping> http://i.stack.imgur.com/g03Ro.png
[02:48] <dupingping> i waited for 4 days.
[02:48] <dupingping> I need to wait more days?
[02:48] <dupingping> my app is in pending review.
[02:49] <dupingping> There is no moderator?
[02:49] <Flannel> dupingping: I know that this channel isn't going to be too helpful. I *believe* the channel you're looking for is #ubuntu-touch (but if nothing else, they should be able to direct you to the people you want to talk to)
[02:51] <dupingping> Flannel, what? did you look http://i.stack.imgur.com/g03Ro.png ?
[02:51] <dupingping> It's not touch app. just Desktop apps.
[02:51] <dupingping> I dont develop any touch app now. just Desktop Apps.
[02:51] <Flannel> dupingping: Where are you trying to get that approved then?
[02:52] <dupingping> i waited for that.
[02:52] <dupingping> but i waited for 2 days for approved one.
[02:52] <Flannel> dupingping: yes. You're trying to get something approved. But approved to where? What website is that?
[02:54] <rusticplague> ok i need serious help
[02:55] <duckgoose> CTCP VERSION
[02:55] <rusticplague> i have a duel boot system and i need to get windows off of it right now and give the rest of the space to ubuntu
[02:55] <duckgoose> lul
[02:55] <rusticplague> i downloaded a trojan
[02:55] <rusticplague> i only know how to do it by reformatting everything is there a way to do this thru ubuntu terminal?
[02:55] <DylanRJ> use Gparted
[02:56] <DylanRJ> sudo apt-get install gparted
[02:56] <rusticplague> ok cool thanks
[02:56] <DylanRJ> No problem
[02:56] <DylanRJ> It's not in the terminal though, it's a GUI in Ubuntu
[02:57] <rusticplague> thats even better
[02:57] <OerHeks> that will be an issue, hdd must not be in use. use the live cd
[02:57] <rusticplague> i want to physically see windows die
[02:57] <DylanRJ> Oh, OerHeks is right. You will need to use a live CD
[02:57] <rusticplague> eh ok
[02:58] <DylanRJ> Forgot about that. I usually nuke and pave stuff
[02:58] <rusticplague> ok
[02:58] <rusticplague> exit
[03:15] <jun_> hello
[03:17] <happyfr0gg> In XFCE I installed lightdm-gtk-greeter and now my default login screen has changed. How do I change it back?
[03:19] <iveth> alguienn en español?
[03:19] <iveth> saludos desde costa rica
[03:31] <happyfr0gg> How do I restore my default Ubuntu login screen??
[03:31] <dupingping> happyfr0gg, reboot.
[03:34] <OerHeks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LightDM#Changing_the_Greeter
[03:34] <happyfr0gg> dupingping, I did and it doesn't come back.
[03:37] <happyfr0gg> I issued this command in XFCE, sudo apt-fast install lightdm-gtk-greeter.
[03:39] <happyfr0gg> Now my default Ubuntu login screen is changed to one with no background pictures and a login dialogue box.
[03:40] <happyfr0gg> I want to change my login screen back to the Ubuntu default.
[03:59] <happyfr0gg> I restored my default Ubuntu login screen. Now I need to restore the default login picture. :-/
[04:12] <EADG> Hello all.
[04:14] <rusticplague> hey i need some help
[04:15] <rusticplague> i just deleted windows 7 duel boot cause it had a trojan on it. i used Gparted and i notice more partitions and i have no idea what they are
[04:18] <digcloud> when I "ssh -i /path/to/key username@host", it still prompts me for a password. How can I force it to use the key for authentication?
[04:22] <scarleo> Hi, pm-powersave isn't called anymore when unplugging my charger, this has happened after upgrading to Vivid, how can I debug it? Should I see the unplug event logged in dmesg?
[04:22] <xcezzz> digcloud: its probably your remote host not having the proper key to allow you to login
[04:23] <digcloud> xcezzz: I think it might be that I had the wrong user.
[04:23] <xcezzz> digcloud: lol that helps
[04:23] <digcloud> xcezzz: but now that I'm using a different user, it attempts to use the key, but asks for a passphrase, but I didn't set a passphrase (at least I didn't mean to)
[04:25] <digcloud> If I ran "ssh-keygen -t rsa -N "" -f /home/vagrant/.ssh/id_rsa", wouldn't I expect to have a key without a passphrase?
[04:25] <xcezzz> digcloud: you try entering a blank passphrase when prompted?
[04:26] <squabbler> I need some help with setting up symlinks with Apache 2.4.7 from html dir -> documents/dev dir
[04:26] <digcloud> xcezzz: ugh, I'm such a newbie. I was using the public key. When I use the private key, I can get in just fine. Thanks for your help
[04:26] <xcezzz> digcloud: heh... so check it... ssh-copy-id will copy your ID to the remote host
[04:27] <squabbler> I'm getting forbidden error in the browser, and not sure what to do
[04:27] <xcezzz> digcloud: as long as you only have one identity file in your .ssh directory 'id_rsa' it will always use that and you dont have to specify manually
[04:27] <tgm4883> ccccccbufndfknelcljevjnhjbekbblcglhcukceirke
[04:28] <digcloud> xcezzz: cool, thanks. I'll master Linux eventually
[04:28] <xcezzz> squabbler: look on google for info about FollowSymLinks...
[04:30] <moonlander> shwoom
[04:34] <le_pig> xcezzz, thanks for the tip about not needing to specify manually in that case. :)
[04:35] <B0g4r7> Is old-releases.ubuntu.com down? Any alternative I should use?
[04:35] <moonlander> how old?
[04:35] <moonlander> google is bretty gud
[04:35] <fishcooker> is there any problem if i limit the mem usage of syslog-ng because it frequently Mem used: 93.81%.. *note: there is no proposal to upgrade the RAM?
[04:36] <moonlander> if you can't find a ive archive on ubuntu, you may be able to find an older hosted version on a debian server
[04:36] <Flannel> B0g4r7: It appears to be timing out. I don't know of any mirrors. Might just have to wait.
[04:36] <B0g4r7> Flannel, thx.
[04:36] <moonlander> wait for what
[04:36] <moonlander> waiting for a mirror has not been an issue since the 90s?
[04:37] <moonlander> maybe earlier in implementation!
[04:37] <gkad> what's the command to install fonts in xubuntu
[04:37] <moonlander> what fonts
[04:37] <gkad> ttf fonts
[04:38] <moonlander> which aren't installed by default?
[04:39] <gkad> i'm new to tuxtrans. In that I would like to install tamil.ttf fonts. I could not copy the ttf in /usr/share/fonts/truetype, will you pls help me
[04:39] <moonlander> oops i'm in the worng channel. though i am to be here just responding in a different context
[04:40] <nimbiotics> Hello everyone. I am mounting 3 different devices, one of them with curlftpfs. How do I make these mounts permanent? TIA!
[04:40] <moonlander> there doesn't seem to a package that provides that font. you can download it and install it in /usr/share/fonts
[04:42] <Guest81309> what is the difference between building package from source vs using apt-get install {Package} ?
[04:42] <moonlander> nimbiotics, add them to fstab
[04:43] <moonlander> Guest81309, you 'build' one from source vs installing a 'pre-compiled' version.
[04:43] <Guest81309> i mean like what is the benifit/point?
[04:43] <OerHeks> Guest81309, if you don't change build options, nothing. just time.
[04:43] <moonlander> options
[04:44] <dora> Hi, I have a question. I need to know how to read my x-0.log . It appears to be in binary.
[04:44] <moonlander> customizability. complete transparency
[04:44] <Guest81309> what can you customize?
[04:44] <Guest81309> with the build source option i mena
[04:44] <moonlander> don't trust the binary provided by the author (sourceforge)? build it; make mods; run it
[04:47] <moonlander> it may be too early in our evolution for 'build it' to be a commonplace phrase, but i suspect it will be as commonplace as 'dude' LOL
[04:47] <Guest81309> got it
[04:48] <Guest81309> what is the point of fakeroot command?
[04:49] <dora> How do I read the x-0.log?
[04:49] <B0g4r7> Seems to be working again now. :)
[04:49] <moonlander> what is the point of life?
[04:50] <Flannel> moonlander: To remain on-topic in #ubuntu.
[04:50] <dora> OK, back tomorrow when earthlings are here.
[04:50] <moonlander> why is it off topic?
[04:50] <Flannel> moonlander: This is a technical support channel. If you want to talk about other things, go to #ubuntu-offtopic.
[04:51] <moonlander> you're making an assumption
[04:51] <moonlander> non-technical
[04:51] <Flannel> moonlander: I assure you that a discussion about the meaning of life is not ubuntu technical support.
[04:51] <moonlander> that was not my question
[04:51] <Guest98382> to do heroin
[04:52] <nimbiotics> moonlander: can you explain me how to add them to fstab?
[04:52] <Guest98382> nimbiotics: copy and line that is there and use it as a template
[04:53] <B0g4r7> Now to upgrade from 11.04 to 14.04 and also convert from Desktop to Server.
[04:54] <moonlander> wow that's a good question (for me). i'm used the the script gen fstab
[04:54] <Flannel> B0g4r7: Your best bet is to reinstall.
[04:55] <moonlander> there has to be something...
[04:55] <Guest81309> what is the point of fakeroot is you can just use normal user privledges(non-root) like write and read(for the user)?
[04:56] <moonlander> if you have admin priv
[04:56] <moonlander> even though. if someone has access to your puter, it's better for it to be encrypted than to resort to filesystem permission
[04:57] <moonlander> anyone can boot up a livecd and copy the sam file from a windows disk...
[04:57] <B0g4r7> Flannel, IDK...I did it on another VM last night and it went OK. I expect the same this time. I backed up first of course.
[04:58] <Flannel> B0g4r7: You'd need to go 11.04 -> 11.10 -> 12.04 -> 14.04 (and convert from desktop to server, which isn't ever clean, somewhere in there). Much easier to just install a 14.04 server fresh.
[05:00] <B0g4r7> Flannel, yup, that's how it went. At the 12.04 stage I did Desktop-->Server.
[05:00] <mcr-pc> hlw
[05:00] <mcr-pc> ping txt
[05:00] <Flannel> B0g4r7: I didn't say it can't be done, but I just don't see the appeal.
[05:01] <mcr-pc> hlw
[05:04] <Guest81309> what is the point of fakeroot if you should already have normal(not root) user privledges to read.write files?
[05:04] <B0g4r7> The appeal is that I can be lazy and let the computer do the work.
[05:05] <B0g4r7> Instead of having to remember how I had everything configured.
[05:06] <mcr-pc> hlw
[05:08] <shadaloo> hi
[05:08] <shadaloo> i switched over from amd64 to intel i7
[05:09] <shadaloo> and ubuntu is still downloading amd64 packages when I update
[05:09] <shadaloo> is there some way I can not
[05:09] <knocktwice> I though amd64 was the generic name. works with i7
[05:09] <shadaloo> oh okay
[05:09] <shadaloo> thanks
[05:10] <shadaloo> just thought it was strange
[05:10] <shadaloo> ubuntu was downloading two versions of the same package
[05:10] <shadaloo> amd64 and i386
[05:11] <knocktwice> huh. If you're running 64-bit amd/intel, afaik it should be the amd64 packages.
[05:11] <knocktwice> i386 is for 32bit
[05:11] <shadaloo> oh lol
[05:11] <shadaloo> alright thanks for the schooling
[05:11] <shadaloo> cheers
[05:11] <knocktwice> but I'm no expert on the package system.
[05:54] <zbbix> I have a log file I would like to rotate, I specified a logrotate config for it to rotate every 100mb and placed the config in /etc/logrotate.d/mylog, then I copied the logrotate cron job from /etc/cron.daily to /etc/cron.hourly. Now, about 18 hours later, the log never rotated and when I cat /var/lib/logrotate/status, I don't see it on the list. Any ideas?
[06:00] <histo> zbbix: I don't remember created a cron job for my logrotate I setup. I just made a config in logrotate.d I believe let me double check
[06:01] <zbbix> histo: In any case, it'
[06:01] <zbbix> histo: In any case, the logrotation did not work
[06:01] <zbbix> histo: This is my config: http://pastebin.com/AvKhZ8Wt
[06:03] <histo> zbbix: don't you ahve to specify a time to rotate?
[06:04] <zbbix> histo: I was under the impression that I can specify a size without a time
[06:04] <histo> zbbix: yes your right
[06:04] <zbbix> I want to rotate whenever the log reaches 1gb
[06:05] <histo> zbbix: did you restart the logrotate service?
[06:05] <zbbix> histo: No.. should I? I thought it ran via cron
[06:06] <histo> zbbix: systemctl status logrotate
[06:06] <zbbix> systemctl: command not found
[06:07] <histo> zbbix: what distro are you on?
[06:07] <zbbix> Ubuntu 14.04
[06:08] <zbbix> sudo service --status-all | grep logrotate - shows nothing
[06:08] <histo> Doesn't 14.04 use systemd?
[06:08] <histo> zbbix: hrm... is that log 1Gig yet?
[06:09] <lotuspsychje> histo: trusty is still init system
[06:09] <histo> ahh
[06:09] * histo hasn't been on ubuntu in awhile
[06:10] <no_gravity> Is there a reason, you put the fs type into fstab but when you mount on the command line, you don't need to? or is it enough to just put "/dev/sdaX /mnt/something" into fstab too?
[06:11] <histo> no_gravity: mount will autodetect the filesystem 'sometimes' when you use the command line
[06:12] <histo> no_gravity: fstab doesn't have that luxury
[06:12] <no_gravity> maybe "/dev/sda2 /mnt/sda2 auto rw 0 0" will do?
[06:12] <histo> no_gravity: but why? is there a problem with specifying the fs
[06:13] <no_gravity> hard to say. i prefer "auto".
[06:14] <no_gravity> ok, rebooting...
[06:19] <jessabc> ever wonder why ubuntu gui looks so bad when apple does such a good job?
[06:19] <lotuspsychje> jessabc: take a look on deviantart, ubuntu has most nice user desktops
[06:20] <xangua> jessabc: they only have 1 one gui
[06:35] <jango42> hi
[06:37] <blondie101010> where can we find the compile script used for Apache (using ubuntu 14.04)?
[06:40] <jango42> Blondie101010 youwant to install Apachce?
[06:44] <Ubuntu75192> is there a single command that updates the kernel fully?
[06:44] <histo> Ubuntu75192: what do you mean updates fully?
[06:44] <Ubuntu75192> get the latest kernel with one command
[06:45] <Ubuntu75192> if possible will probs need full pc restart
[06:45] <drmagoo> Anyone here on 14.04 with a nvidia gtx9XX-card and using xorg-edgers drivers? When I try to install the drivers from there, it doesnt install the Xorg-driver. Any ideas?
[06:46] <Ubuntu75192> so yes or no/
[06:47] <xangua> why do you want the latest kernel¿
[06:47] <xangua> Ubuntu75192: kernel.org
[06:47] <Ubuntu75192> not possible to do it all via commandline?
[06:48] <Ubuntu75192> like sudo update-kernel or something?
[06:48] <somsip> Ubuntu75192: do you mean the newest officially-support kernel, or the very newest Linux kernel?
[06:49] <Ubuntu75192> officially supported
[06:49] <somsip> Ubuntu75192: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade (after an update)
[06:49] <Ubuntu75192> k
[06:49] <Ubuntu75192> thanks
[06:49] <somsip> np
[06:51] <histo> Ubuntu75192: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:53] <Ubuntu84819> if internet connection crashes during a apt-get update will running it again(with internet failure) fix it all again, since its just updating lists?
[06:53] <Ubuntu84819> as in without internet failure
[06:53] <Ben64> yeah it should
[06:53] <Ubuntu84819> and same with apt-get install
[06:54] <Ubuntu84819> just continues from what it had
[06:54] <Ubuntu84819> rihgt?
[06:54] <Ubuntu84819> right*?
[06:54] <Ben64> usually
[06:55] <Ubuntu84819> so with the update, if it fails i can always just run it again and if no errors reported then its updated correctly(even though first time it failed)?
[06:55] <Ubuntu84819> apt-get update of course
[06:56] <csrgxtu> join #openwrt
[06:56] <Ben64> Ubuntu84819: yeah
[06:56] <Ubuntu84819> got it. thanks
#openwrt
[06:56] <neurot> csrgxtu no
[06:56] <Ben64> /join #openwrt
[06:57] <csrgxtu> neurot, thanks
[06:57] <blondie101010> sorry I got disconnected
[06:58] <kaiz> ok
[06:58] <kaiz> anyone here
[06:58] <blondie101010> are the build scripts private or taboo here? I basically like the apache build but just want to make minor adjustments to it
[06:59] <csrgxtu> Ben64, thanks
[07:03] <histo> blondie101010: apt-get sourch somepackage
[07:03] <histo> s/sourch/source/
[07:04] <blondie101010> thanks a lot!
[07:14] <Gh0st-> how can I access Ubuntu via FTP on my VPS?
[07:15] <zbbix> histo: Yep that file is already 1gb
[07:15] <cristian_c> hello
[07:16] <cristian_c> how can I convert a primary partition to logical one?
[07:16] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[07:21] <Gh0st-> how can I access Ubuntu via FTP on my VPS?
[07:31] <neurot> Gh0st- are you looking for a client or server
[07:31] <Gh0st-> server
[07:31] <Gh0st-> neurot: I have got a VPS
[07:32] <neurot> I run Pro FTP
[07:32] <neurot> http://www.proftpd.org/
[07:32] <histo> zbbix: yeah no idea everything looks okay to me. Maybe a reboot?
[07:33] <zbbix> histo: Found the issue, it's stupid. I used '1g' instead of '1G'
[07:34] <histo> zbbix: ahh
[07:35] <neurot> Gh0st- https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-proftpd-on-ubuntu-12-04
[07:35] <Gh0st-> how can I change forward port
[07:36] <Gh0st-> neurot: thanks doing it
[07:36] <neurot> Gh0st- :-)
[07:37] <Gh0st-> neurot: do you know how can I change the port
[07:37] <histo> zbbix: sorry I didn't catch that either
[07:37] <drmagoo> can someone confirm wether nvidia-346 is part of the official repos for 15.04 ?
[07:38] <neurot> If you going to run pro ftp it is in the conf /etc/proftpd/proftpd.conf
[07:38] <Gh0st-> neurot: do you know how can I change the port shell access
[07:38] <Gh0st-> :/
[07:39] <neurot> Gh0st- no sorry
[07:39] <Gh0st-> ssh access
[07:39] <histo> Gh0st-: who's your vps through?
[07:41] <est31> hi, anyone tried 15.10 already?
[07:41] <est31> will the 15.10 gcc have colors?
[07:42] <Gh0st-> histo: crisis I think
[07:42] <Gh0st-> neurot: it gave me this error ProFTPD warning: cannot start neither in standalone nor in inetd/xinetd mode. Check your configuration.
[07:43] <histo> Gh0st-: how do you not know who the vps is through? What company did you purchase it through?
[07:43] <Gh0st-> Crisis bro
[07:43] <Gh0st-> huh
[07:43] <somsip> !15.10 | est31
[07:43] <neurot> you ran the sudo apt-get install proftpd and it popped up the box right
[07:43] <Gh0st-> neurot: yeah
[07:43] <neurot> do standalone i think
[07:44] <Gh0st-> oh I choosed ident something
[07:44] <neurot> brb looking at my conf
[07:44] <Gh0st-> Done
[07:44] <Gh0st-> :)
[07:44] <Gh0st-> Yaay
[07:44] <est31> somsip, you say I should crosspost there?
[07:45] <somsip> est31: you should go and ask there
[07:45] <Elecbullet> i have this encrypted partition at /dev/sdc1 which ubuntu used to ask for password to mount at boot. I reinstalled and it doesn't do that anymore. I want to mount it post-boot, manually if I can from terminal
[07:45] <neurot> standalone Gh0st-
[07:45] <Gh0st-> yes
[07:45] <Gh0st-> don
[07:46] <Gh0st-> done
[07:46] <neurot> sweet
[07:46] <Gh0st-> but cannot access
[07:46] <Gh0st-> through ftp client
[07:46] <Elecbullet> "sudo mount.crypt /dev/sdc1 /crypt" should work, if /crypt exists, right?
[07:47] <Gh0st-> which login details should I use?
[07:47] <neurot> Gh0st- open up you vps ports
[07:47] <Gh0st-> neurot: I am noob :/
[07:48] <Gh0st-> how would I do that
[07:48] <neurot> what is your vps
[07:49] <MichaelTiebesl> hi everybody.....just curious if Ubuntu 15.10 already is stable enough for daily use?
[07:50] <somsip> !15.10 | MichaelTiebesl (discussion in a different channel for unreleased versions)
[07:50] <neurot> Gh0st- I run a home server so I could not help you on that part.
[07:51] <csrgxtu> u can also use 14.04.2
[07:51] <csrgxtu> stable and with full documentation
[07:52] <Gh0st-> neurot: oh ok
[07:52] <Gh0st-> :)
[07:52] <Gh0st-> neurot: but thanks
[07:52] <neurot> happy to help
[07:54] <merkurus> For testing i rec 12.04.2 and update
[07:54] <merkurus> Stable
[07:55] <sid_> I can't see any wifi network around me , could anybody helps me ?
[08:07] <sid_> my network hardrive doesn't work properly I can't find any wifi connection available even if there are so may around me
[08:14] <llutz> sid_: and that network harddrive runs ubuntu?
[08:16] <sid_> llutz_ yes 14.04 LTS that I ve just installed today under macbook pro
[08:17] <ricard> much difference is seen in 4 gb of ram to 1333 or 1600, is very noticeable in the pc?
[08:18] <llutz> ricard: no
[08:18] <ricard> thaks llutz
[08:19] <Lebowski> Hello?
[08:19] <Lebowski> This is the ubuntu support?
[08:20] <Lebowski> anyone there? this is urgent
[08:20] <yabbes> im here
[08:21] <Lebowski> You can help me yeah?
[08:21] <yabbes> Lebowski, just ask your question
[08:21] <Lebowski> Okay
[08:21] <fishcooker> there is error message: no space left what should i do? https://bpaste.net/show/2b9de5fcafae
[08:22] <merkurus> yabbes: does it start ?
[08:23] <Lebowski> I have been gettign tired of windows for a while now so I decided to get ubuntu. Once I did I put it on a RW disc (people said it was a bad idea but it's all I have) when I went to boot from the CD it loaded up the instaler. Once it loaded I saw the 2 menus. I picked the full install and not the live preview. I got past the part where it said it would earse my hard drive (and it did). after that a thing that said chicago with a map
[08:23] <Lebowski> menu popped up and said ??? ??? and to the left it had a - sign
[08:23] <Lebowski> yabbes i really need help
[08:23] <Lebowski> I have no OS on my computer now
[08:24] <sid_> llutz yes 14.04 LTS that I ve just installed today under macbook pro
[08:24] <yabbes> Lebowski, im a noob too, what are you trying to do
[08:24] <yabbes> youve got no OS at the moment just trying to install ubuntu ?
[08:24] <ricard> llutz is no appreciable difference?
[08:24] <Lebowski> I've been trying all day
[08:24] <Lebowski> I have no OS so I have to keep booting from the CD
[08:25] <yabbes> why do you even see this error
[08:25] <cfhowlett> !md5summ | Lebowski, suspect you have a bad .iso or bad cd.
[08:25] <yabbes> the installation uses graphical ui
[08:25] <cfhowlett> !md5sum | Lebowski
[08:25] <yabbes> yeah download the iso again and maybe try with installation from usb
[08:25] <yabbes> it should be no problem at all to install
[08:26] <ricard> llutz is no appreciable difference?
[08:26] <Lebowski> I think the problem is the CD
[08:26] <Lebowski> I have been going at this for the past 4 hours and its now 3 in the morning
[08:26] <Lebowski> what should I do?
[08:27] <yabbes> create a new live dvd
[08:27] <yabbes> to install from
[08:28] <Lebowski> I have been using the same cd. I have erased it and reinstalled ubuntu (or at least tried) about 3 times
[08:28] <yabbes> at what point the installation fails ?
[08:29] <neurot> can he burn a cd inside the live cd environment
[08:29] <Lebowski> after it erases my hard drive
[08:29] <Lebowski> I might be able to try
[08:29] <yabbes> Lebowski, does it boot the live environment correctly ?
[08:29] <Lebowski> Yes
[08:29] <yabbes> try to redownload a non faulty version from there
[08:30] <Lebowski> All I have is the same RW DVD
[08:30] <neurot> Lebowski what Ubuntu are you wanting to install
[08:30] <neurot> 15.10
[08:31] <Lebowski> To be honest i don't really know... 14.0.2 or something
[08:31] <Lebowski> 14.04.2
[08:31] <Lebowski> thats it
[08:32] <neurot> Lebowski 14.04.2 that is the one i would do too
[08:32] <neurot> see if you can burn a new iso
[08:32] <Lebowski> @neurot you said to try and burn the iso to the disc using the live version but wouldnt that just kick me off the OS?
[08:32] <ricard> llutz is very noticeable difference between 4GB 1333 1600 or on the computer?
[08:33] <Lebowski> ??
[08:33] <neurot> Lebowski i was asking too in don't know if you can.
[08:33] <Lebowski> Oh
[08:33] <Lebowski> haha sorry
[08:34] <neurot> i think the os is running in ram so i would just see if you can
[08:34] <neurot> :-)
[08:34] <Lebowski> alright. I'll try to erase the disc and try
[08:35] <yabbes> i think it should work
[08:35] <neurot> i think so too
[08:35] <ricard> hello llutz
[08:35] <cfhowlett> Lebowski, dude. CHECK YOUR ISO. doesn't matter how many times you "retry". if your .iso is bad, it's going to fail. perform the md5sum
[08:36] <yabbes> +1 what cfhowlett said
[08:36] <merkurus> be sure about the i386 or 64
[08:36] <Lebowski> neurot idk how to find where to erase the disk on ubuntu ffs
[08:36] <Lebowski> cfhowlett would you mind linking me again?
[08:36] <cfhowlett> !md5sum | Lebowski
[08:36] <cfhowlett> !md5sum > Lebowski
[08:37] <Lebowski> okay
[08:37] <Lebowski> Let me read up on it
[08:38] <ricard> anyone know if you really notice the difference between 4GB 1333 or 1600 computer
[08:39] <Lebowski> cfhowlett I have no idea what I'm doing. I write that line in the terminal and it's supposed to spit out a line of something and I'm supposded to compare it to what?
[08:41] <neurot> Lebowski If all else fails reinstall windows if you can
[08:41] <cfhowlett> Lebowski, you gotta read the link, amgio. you check it against this: http://releases.ubuntu.com/trusty/MD5SUMS
[08:42] <Lebowski> neurot I would if I had one, I tried reinstalling a torrented version of windows but it didn't work
[08:42] <Lebowski> cfhowlett, I am, bud. I don't understand what to do. I am computer illiterate
[08:42] <cfhowlett> !piracy | Lebowski
[08:43] <cfhowlett> Lebowski, you need a computer with a working OS to perform the md5sum
[08:43] <yabbes> torrent windows
[08:43] <Lebowski> okay, I'll do it on my laptop then.
[08:43] <cfhowlett> Lebowski, laptop has what OS??
[08:44] <Lebowski> yabbes I have tried that, I boot from cd but it says the files are corrupt or something
[08:44] <Lebowski> cfhowlett, Windows 8.1
[08:44] <cfhowlett> yeah not to mention virus infested.
[08:44] <yabbes> you tried what? did you check the md5 ?
[08:44] <yabbes> if md5 correct just install
[08:44] <yabbes> :P
[08:44] <yabbes> if not DONT
[08:45] <neurot> Lebowski do you have a usb flash drive 4gb or more
[08:45] <yabbes> ^
[08:45] <yabbes> make a usb boot stick
[08:45] <yabbes> i hate cd rom
[08:45] <Lebowski> I do not. that is why I have been using the RW DVD
[08:45] <anonymous_> huh?
[08:45] <Lebowski> It sucks and it takes forever
[08:45] <yabbes> man you've got nothing lebowski
[08:45] <yabbes> :P
[08:45] <anonymous_> so what suck and tkes forever?
[08:45] <Lebowski> haha sorry bud
[08:46] <anonymous_> so.. you guys are using ubuntu??
[08:46] <chotaz`w> Lebowski, i can ship you in an 8gb pen drive if you need, I literally got dozens of em laying around in boxes
[08:46] <Lebowski> trying to
[08:46] <anonymous_> Xchat..
[08:46] <Lebowski> choatz'w if you would like to you may
[08:46] <anonymous_> HELLO ANYONE CAN SEE MY TEXT??
[08:46] <Lebowski> yes anon
[08:46] <chotaz`w> anonymous_, YES WE CAN
[08:47] <neurot> Lebowski I know this is unorthodox but maybe try Linux Mint
[08:47] <chotaz`w> !caps > anonymous_
[08:47] <anonymous_> oh kk then.. i thought i was loney for a moment..
[08:47] <Lebowski> neurot, already tried and it didn't work
[08:47] <yabbes> im upgrading to 15.04 :-)
[08:47] <yabbes> why didnt it work Lebowski
[08:47] <Lebowski> just loaded to some weird looking menu and I couldnt to anything
[08:47] <anonymous_> people are now using this right??
[08:47] <yabbes> ive never had problems like this
[08:48] <yabbes> just installing it :s
[08:48] <anonymous_> you guys are using anonymous os?
[08:48] <neurot> Lebowski You may have a hardware issue
[08:48] <ricard> anyone know if you really notice the difference between 4GB 1333 or 1600 computer
[08:48] <yabbes> what are you trying to install it on lebowski
[08:48] <Lebowski> I don't think it is. I think it might have to do with the RW CD
[08:48] <Lebowski> yabbes ubuntu 14.04.2
[08:48] <neurot> Lebowski or that
[08:48] <neurot> lol
[08:48] <anonymous_> okay so.. what are you guys doing now
[08:48] <anonymous_> ?
[08:48] <ktechmidas> at work...
[08:49] <yabbes> that too, i think its very prone to errors CD's especially if rewriting on them
[08:49] <anonymous_> wait what at work?
[08:49] <Lebowski> you live in eruope ktechmidas?
[08:49] <anonymous_> WTF AT WORK
[08:49] <ktechmidas> Yup England
[08:49] <anonymous_> who hacks here just saying?
[08:49] <Lebowski> It's 3:49 am m88
[08:49] <ktechmidas> it's almost 10am here
[08:49] <yabbes> almost 11 here ;)
[08:49] <anonymous_> WHO HACKS HERE (god do i need to do caps)
[08:49] <Lebowski> neurot, yabbes, do you think it's the RW CD?
[08:50] <anonymous_> OH MY GOD i'm left outD:
[08:50] <yabbes> anonymous_, calm down ^^
[08:50] <Lebowski> I swear to god if it is a hardware issue I am going to jump off a cliff
[08:50] <anonymous_> AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
[08:50] <anonymous_> I"M BEING LEFT OUT AHHHH
[08:50] <ktechmidas> !caps > anonymous_
[08:50] <Lebowski> my question is, why wouldn't it let me boot a pirated version of windows?
[08:50] <anonymous_> ANYONEWHO IS USING UBUNTU?
[08:50] <yabbes> if you got the errors installing linux mint with this same RW CD then yes
[08:51] <neurot> Lebowski I wouldn't rule it out
[08:51] <Lebowski> My PC was fine today, I just didn't want to use windows anymore
[08:51] <ktechmidas> Lebowski: You can get a legit version of Windows?
[08:51] <ktechmidas> just to try
[08:51] <neurot> Lebowski you only have one cdrw
[08:51] <ktechmidas> and does your computer support booting from USB?
[08:51] <ktechmidas> I find USB to be a lot more reliable
[08:51] <Lebowski> Yes I can get a legit version ktechmidas, just not at the moment. I have to wait till later today when I get off work
[08:52] <ricard> have raised the question as much difference in the pc 4GB 1333 or 1600?
[08:52] <Lebowski> I beleive my computer oes
[08:52] <Lebowski> and neurot yes
[08:52] <neurot> that sucks man
[08:52] <ktechmidas> Lebowski: try a USB boot... you can use unetbootin to install Ubuntu to a USB drive
[08:52] <jpds> ricard: What's the difference between 1333 and 1600 RAM?
[08:52] <ktechmidas> and boot from that
[08:52] <nirud> Lebowski: Have you used this CD-RW several times before? or is this a blank one that you then used to burn Ubuntu to?
[08:52] <neurot> ktechmidas Lebowski has no usb drive
[08:52] <ktechmidas> I think it needs to be 1GB or bigger (the USB stick)
[08:53] <Lebowski> neurot I do have a usb drive
[08:53] <nirud> Also, as everyone else has suggested...You should try to find a USB 2.0 stick that has a minimum of 4GB, because that is a much more reliable medium for installing an OS.
[08:53] <neurot> Lebowski a flash drive
[08:54] <Lebowski> what neurot?
[08:54] <ricard> not notice much the pc
[08:55] <neurot> Do you have a USB flash drive that you can install the operating system on?
[08:55] <Lebowski> Not with me
[08:55] <Lebowski> no
[08:55] <Lebowski> which is why im using the cd
[08:55] <ricard> not notice much the pc jpds
[08:56] <ktechmidas> I haven't used a disk drive in years... I ripped it out :P
[08:57] <ricard> jpds:not notice much the pc
[08:59] <Lebowski> So, I'm going to catch some Z's. before I go do you guys have any more ideas for me?
[09:00] <nirud> Lebowski: If you can still boot into a live environment, then I suggest you check the MD5 checksum (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM) of the CD to make sure it is correct and not corrupted. A list of correct md5 checksums for the Ubuntu releases can be found in their appropriate directories in here: http://releases.ubuntu.com/. From all the conversation that has taken place, I would think the md5 checksum will return
[09:00] <nirud> as invalid, if that is the case then redownload the Ubuntu ISO and attempt to burn it using the programs that come installed in the live environment.
[09:01] <Johnny_Linux> at a slower speed
[09:01] <Lebowski> alright. I'll do it later today. I'll be back later today to give you guys an update
[09:01] <cfhowlett> Lebowski, torrenting the .iso is almost always more reliable than direct download
[09:02] <Lebowski> cfhowlett, I'll torrent it while I go to sleep and do it again. Do you have a torrent link? I couldn't find one
[09:02] <cfhowlett> Lebowski, wait 12
[09:02] <Lebowski> ??
[09:02] <nirud> http://releases.ubuntu.com/trusty/
[09:02] <cfhowlett> !trusty
[09:02] <nirud> http://releases.ubuntu.com/trusty/ubuntu-14.04.2-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent
[09:03] <nirud> Oh, I did not realize this handy bot had all this information at the ready.
[09:03] <nirud> Seems there is a command for everything.
[09:03] <Lebowski> lol
[09:03] <Lebowski> is this the torrent?
[09:04] <nirud> http://releases.ubuntu.com/trusty/ubuntu-14.04.2-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent < This is the torrent file for Ubuntu 14.04.2 (64 bit)
[09:05] <Haris> Hello all
[09:05] <Haris> is there a way to install php 5.4.x on trusty ?
[09:05] <Haris> from official repos' or the like
[09:05] <Haris> is there a way to install php 5.4.x on trusty from official repos' or the like ?
[09:06] <Lebowski> okay, thank you nirud. I am getting off. Thank you cfhowlett, neurot for your help
[09:06] <Lebowski> i will be back later
[09:06] <Lebowski> and yabbes
[09:06] <Lebowski> thank you guys
[09:07] <dupingping> please look the url, https://pledgie.com/campaigns/28502
[09:12] <histo> dupingping: why are you spamming in here? Also what you are trying to do already exists
[09:12] <ricard> not notice much memory pc ram 4 gb to 1333 or 1600?
[09:12] <dupingping> histo, it's not spamming. just donation.
[09:13] <ktechmidas> dupingping: it's spamming and off-topic
[09:13] <histo> dupingping: You're spamming a link for people to donate to something that's already been done in a ubuntu support channel
[09:13] <histo> !ot | dupingping
[09:13] <dupingping> i see.
[09:13] <histo> ricard: what?
[09:14] <dupingping> histo, ktechmidas, thank you for your help
[09:14] <histo> ricard: what is your native language?
[09:15] <ricard> much changes the performance of the computer co 4 gb ram 1333 or 1600
[09:15] <ktechmidas> ricard: it depends on your build, stick 1600 both in there and take metrics
[09:16] <somsip> ricard: http://superuser.com/questions/204694/ram-speed-how-does-it-impact-performance
[09:16] <somsip> ricard: but hardware questions are offtopic here
[09:16] <histo> ricard: /join ##hardware
[09:17] <ricard> ok
[09:23] <robur888d> hi, who comes from France?
[09:27] <Haris> guys, anyone here ?
[09:27] <Haris> I need to have php 5.4.x on trusty ? is it possible ?
[09:28] <lewis1711> flashplugin is installed. watch youtube videos, but no sound. I can play mp3s fine. I have ALSA. not sure where to go from here, ideas?
[09:28] <neurot> Haris apt-get install php5
[09:28] <neurot> sudo apt-get install php5
[09:29] <Haris> that installs php5 5.5.x
[09:29] <Haris> I need 5.4.x
[09:30] <neurot> yes
[09:31] <neurot> i think its phph 5.59
[09:31] <neurot> 5.5.9
[09:31] <neurot> sorry
[09:31] <Seveas> Haris: fix your application to not require an obsolete, unsupprted and probably insecure version of php
[09:31] <Seveas> lewis1711: remove flashplugin, try youtub'es html5 viewer
[09:32] <ktechmidas> Haris: you'll have to either go find a repo with it in, try to find the .deb's you need from somewhere, or build it yourself
[09:33] <nirud> lewis1711: YouTube by default uses HTML5 as its video player, and only resorts to flash when something crashes. Chrome/Chromium has its own Flash player which is maintained by Google.
[09:33] <amitprakash> Hi, i've two questions wrt uwsgi. I am running uwsgi as a ubuntu service.. however despite specifying logto = /data/app-logger.log and daemonize = /data/app.log in app.ini, daemonize gets set to /var/log/uwsgi/app/app.log
[09:33] <amitprakash> How do I resolve this?
[09:34] <lewis1711> thanks. still no sound in youtube after remove the flashplugin. I did have to change my default device in .asoundrc. perhaps firefox isn't picking it up, and is sending sound to the wrong card?
[09:36] <lewis1711> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/df8b0a27d79ee81b6430 that's my .asoundrc, seems fine
[09:39] <str0ke> hello
[09:39] <str0ke> im trying to install dual boot @ my windows 7
[09:39] <str0ke> can someone help me?
[09:39] <lotuspsychje> !dualboot | str0ke
[09:40] <janeAusten666333> #laptop
[09:40] <lotuspsychje> str0ke: you can also make you life easy, and single boot install ubuntu
[09:41] <ktechmidas> lotuspsychje: some people have a need for Windows
[09:41] <lotuspsychje> ktechmidas: there are many tools you can simulate, wine,playonlinux,..
[09:42] <lewis1711> I do spend a lot less time messing around with sound cards and drivers in windows. then again I don't use it as much
[09:42] <ktechmidas> lotuspsychje: I'd like to see Wine/POL play GTA5
[09:43] <lotuspsychje> ktechmidas: yeah hardcore gamers better stick to winblows indeed
[09:44] <lotuspsychje> ktechmidas: but steam can already play nice grafix games on ubuntu
[09:45] <ktechmidas> lotuspsychje: I would like to see Linux become a gaming platform as much as anyone, I live, breathe and work with Linux - but when I get home I just want to play a game, not constrict myself to things that may or may not work, graphical glitches with WINE, or things just crashing out (wih the exception of Steam games, they seem to work okay)
[09:45] <Trioxin> does Wubi, the Ubuntu installer for windows still work?
[09:46] <Trioxin> I don't see it on the site
[09:46] <lotuspsychje> !wubi | Trioxin
[09:46] <k1l_> Trioxin: dont use it.
[09:46] <k1l_> Trioxin: make a real install into real partitions. or use a usb pendrive for testing. but dont use wubi
[09:46] <Trioxin> any other way to install if you don't have the option of using a DVD or USB drive?
[09:47] <Trioxin> from windows
[09:47] <k1l_> pxe boot
[09:47] <ktechmidas> if you have another computer to PXE boot from
[09:47] <k1l_> Trioxin: easiest way is to get a dvd or usb pendrive. all other ways like pxe need way more effort.
[09:48] <Trioxin> damn
[09:48] <lotuspsychje> Trioxin: or order an ubuntu dvd from the ubuntu website
[09:48] <lotuspsychje> Trioxin: or you dont have a dvd drive?
[09:49] <Trioxin> it's for a friend who doesn't have much and doesn't live anywhere near me. he has a mac in his house
[09:49] <Trioxin> i was thinking maybe I could make partition for ubuntu and then install it via virtualbox or vmware?
[09:49] <Trioxin> in windows
[09:50] <lotuspsychje> Trioxin: but that will remain virtual then
[09:50] <lotuspsychje> Trioxin: like k1l_ suggests better find a cheap usb somewhere, and make your life easy
[09:50] <Trioxin> no I mean since the VM can see the other partition, use an install CD iso, boot into that in VMware, then use that to install to the new partition?
[09:51] <llutz> Trioxin: read virtualbox manual, about "raw hard disk access"
[09:52] <Haris> I have that same issue again. apache 2.4.x is not parsing php files. its offering them for download
[09:52] <Haris> apache 2.4.7
[09:52] <lotuspsychje> Trioxin: if you find yourself a 1gig usb stick its gonna be pretty cheap, or search the internet for free usb
[09:52] <Haris> php5 mod is enabled. but its not parsing it
[09:53] <lotuspsychje> Haris: maybe the ##httpd guys know this?
[09:53] <Trioxin> yeah I guess I could send him one of my old ones
[09:53] <lotuspsychje> Trioxin: sure, 1gig will be enough to run ubuntu iso
[09:53] <nirud> My local dollar store has 1GB USB2.0 sticks for $1.50.
[09:53] <Haris> no, its not a httpd issue. its a how-ubuntu-cnofigures-apache-in-its-dist is the issue
[09:53] <Haris> as before
[09:54] <Trioxin> looks like vmware can do it but involves virtualizing everything
[09:54] <histo> nirud: hrm.. interresting.. What franchise
[09:55] <nirud> histo: Dollarama...It's a rather big chain in Canada.
[09:55] <IseeFreeMarkets> hi guys
[09:55] <lotuspsychje> histo: set discuss in your favs :p
[09:56] <Trioxin> the point is to give him a privacy minded alternative to windows when he wants it. I wonder if there's such software that doesn't require network booting but allows you to reboot into a downloaded ISO
[09:56] <Haris> This is trusty, 14.04.x. apache 2.4.7 is not parsing php files, even though php5 mod is enabled. apachectl -M shows it
[09:57] <Trioxin> EasyBCD
[09:57] <lotuspsychje> Trioxin: dont forget if you send him the usb, put the right architecture on it: 32 or 64bit
[09:57] <Trioxin> well I teamview him when he needs help. no big deal there
[09:57] <Haris> how do I troubleshoot this ?
[09:58] <neurot> Haris are you trying to run a web server
[09:58] <Haris> yes, ofcourse
[09:59] <Haris> as my production web server, I should add
[09:59] <neurot> sudo apt-get install lamp-server^
[09:59] <Ben64> h
[09:59] <Ben64> Haris: make sure you have the package "libapache2-mod-php5" installed
[10:00] <neurot> a all in one install of php5 mysql ....
[10:00] <Haris> ii libapache2-mod-php5 5.5.9+dfsg-1ubuntu4.9 amd64
[10:00] <ablest1980> yes
[10:00] <Trioxin> For future reference, this seems to be able to accomplish installing without any extra installation media: http://neosmart.net/EasyBCD/
[10:00] <Haris> yes, its installed. as I mentioned, apachectl -M shows php5 is included/enabled
[10:00] <Ben64> Haris: just going through verification
[10:01] <llutz> Haris: have you restarted apache after enabling the mod-php5?
[10:01] <Ben64> Haris: make sure its in mods-enabled too
[10:01] <neurot> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[10:01] <Haris> yes, already done
[10:03] <Haris> why don't things work when they are configured "as is" "out of the box"
[10:03] <Ben64> they do
[10:04] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: good noon
[10:05] <EriC^^> :D
[10:05] <chotaz`w> why are people on IRC divided by hashtag? :v
[10:05] <EriC^^> good noon lotuspsychje
[10:05] <Nek> Hello everybody !
[10:05] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: set discuss in your favs mate :p
[10:06] <Ben64> Haris: is this server publicly accessible
[10:06] <ablest1980> hello lotuspsychje
[10:06] <lotuspsychje> ablest1980: hi
[10:07] <Haris> Ben64: yes ofcourse
[10:07] <Ben64> make a page, call it ip.php or something, put this line in it, give me link. <?php echo $_SERVER['REMOTE_ADDR'];?>
[10:07] <Nek> Anyone knows how to upgrade vlc manually ? I tried via the ppa and it looks like it doesn't work :-( .
[10:07] <Nek> My version of VLC doesn't work >_<
[10:08] <Ben64> Nek: how does it not work
[10:08] <ablest1980> hello Nek
[10:08] <lotuspsychje> Nek: ubuntu version?
[10:08] <Nek> 14.04
[10:09] <lotuspsychje> Nek: errors when you start vlc from terminal?
[10:09] <Nek> Ben64, well, i tried apt-get upgrade, nothing happens.
[10:09] <Nek> lotuspsychje, segfault
[10:10] <ablest1980> add sudo?
[10:10] <Ben64> Nek: try mplayer2
[10:10] <Haris> how to enable mcrypt module ?
[10:10] <lotuspsychje> Nek: maybe this can help? http://askubuntu.com/questions/461691/vlc-player-issue-on-ubuntu-14-04
[10:11] <Nek> ablest1980, im not that stupid :') .
[10:11] <Haris> ok. the problem seems to be with directoryindex
[10:11] <Haris> its parsing php files
[10:11] <Haris> ok
[10:11] <ablest1980> lol
[10:11] <ablest1980> XD
[10:12] <Nek> lotuspsychje, nop :/ [1] 1081 segmentation fault (core dumped) vlc
[10:12] <Ben64> Nek: try mplayer2
[10:13] <lotuspsychje> Nek: did you try reinstall?
[10:15] <Haris> when I load files with /index.php it works, it parses the problem
[10:15] <Haris> when I browse the FQDN, is doesn't work
[10:15] <Haris> DirectoryIndex might be the issue
[10:16] <Ben64> sounds like it
[10:18] <ablest1980> http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-ubuntu.html
[10:18] <ablest1980> ^
[10:18] <Peetz0r> Hey! I have ubuntu 14.04 with full disk encryption and everyhting on one disk. Now I want to add another disk and move /home to that new disk. How would I do that?
[10:18] <k1l_> ablest1980: vlc is in the repos
[10:18] <lotuspsychje> !encrypt | Peetz0r
[10:18] <ablest1980> ok
[10:18] <ablest1980> % sudo apt-get update
[10:18] <ablest1980> % sudo apt-get install vlc browser-plugin-vlc
[10:19] <Peetz0r> lotuspsychje: I don't want to encrypt just one directory
[10:19] <Nek> k1l_, looks broken on ubuntu 14.04, so i would like to upgrade. No idea why it doesnt works >_< .
[10:19] <Peetz0r> my first disk is already encrypted. my question is, how do I add another encrypted disk to that same setup, *and* how do I move /home to that new disk
[10:19] <lotuspsychje> Nek: did something happen while you installed vlc?
[10:19] <k1l_> Nek: what doesnt work? the version in the repo is known to work.
[10:20] <lotuspsychje> k1l_: his vlc gets a segfault on trusty
[10:21] <Haris> directoryindex part is still not working
[10:21] <Ben64> you need to reload apache when you change conf
[10:22] <lotuspsychje> Nek: try to purge vlc and reinstall
[10:23] <Nek> lotuspsychje, already tried :-( .
[10:24] <Nek> k1l_, segfault while starting a flv video.
[10:24] <k1l_> Nek: so is the flv film known to work?
[10:24] <lotuspsychje> Nek: maybe try what Ben64 suggested and test mplayer2 to see if movie plays
[10:27] <Peetz0r> Hey! I have ubuntu 14.04 with full disk encryption and everyhting on one disk. Now I want to add another disk and move /home to that new disk. How would I do that?
[10:33] <ricard> hello someone can tell me if there is much difference between 4 gb ram 1333 or 1600 is very noticeable in the pc
[10:34] <bekks> ricard: You will not notice it. But you want more than 4GB RAM.
[10:36] <ablest1980> i had 4 gb added 4 more work good
[10:36] <amitprakash> Hi, i've two questions wrt uwsgi. I am running uwsgi as a ubuntu service.. however despite specifying logto = /data/app-logger.log and daemonize = /data/app.log in app.ini, daemonize gets set to /var/log/uwsgi/app/app.log
[10:36] <amitprakash> How do I resolve this?
[10:36] <ricard> not right with 4 GB of RAM just want to know if you notice much 1333 or 1600
[10:37] <llutz> ricard: you already have been told (no) and got the right channel to ask ##hardware.
[10:39] <ricard> no one
[10:40] <ricard> llutz
[10:40] <llutz> offtopic here, ricard
[10:42] <j0hn> hello
[10:43] <Guest18291> is there anyone who can help me? I just installed my ubuntu :D
[10:43] <k1l_> help with what?
[10:44] <Guest18291> i wanted to install hexchat/xchat but i had some errors
[10:44] <Guest18291> now i use xchat-gnome and i got this on my terminal
[10:44] <k1l_> Guest18291: what ubuntu is it exactly?
[10:44] <Guest18291> john@ubuntu:~$ xchat-gnome
[10:44] <Guest18291> (xchat-gnome:7215): Gtk-WARNING **: Unknown property: TopicLabel.creation-function
[10:44] <Guest18291> (xchat-gnome:7215): Gtk-WARNING **: Unknown property: ConversationPanel.creation-function
[10:44] <Guest18291> Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS \n \l
[10:45] <neurot> Guest18291 http://geek.krash.net/forum/showthread.php?tid=5
[10:45] <k1l_> sudo apt-get update &&sudo apt-get install hexchat
[10:48] <k1l_> and you dont need any ppa for hexchat
[10:48] <neurot> k1l_ true but its nice to get updates
[10:49] <Guest18291> john@ubuntu:~$ hexchat
[10:49] <Guest18291> (hexchat:7617): Pango-WARNING **: Invalid UTF-8 string passed to pango_layout_set_text()
[10:49] <Guest18291> (hexchat:7617): Pango-WARNING **: Invalid UTF-8 string passed to pango_layout_set_text()
[10:49] <Guest18291> HexChat CRITICAL *** default event text failed to build!
[10:49] <Guest18291> Aborted (core dumped)
[10:49] <Guest18291> john@ubuntu:~$
[10:49] <Seveas> Guest18291: stop pasting in here.
[10:49] <k1l_> neurot: no. not at all. if you want the latest and greatest you want a rolling release distro with all that cons.
[10:49] <k1l_> !paste | Guest18291
[10:50] <Guest18291> I apologize.
[10:50] <k1l_> Guest18291: put the output into the pastebin and show the link here.
[10:50] <k1l_> Guest18291: what desktop is it exactly?
[10:51] <Guest18291> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11563234/
Guest18291: what desktop is it exactly?
[10:54] <Guest18291> 14.04.2
[10:54] <philluminati> Hi guys. Since my 15.04 upgrade I'm having trouble with nfs being slow. Presumably because the ubuntu server it runs on is no longer running "lockd" (i believe). However I'm sure where lockd is and how I'm supposed to restart t
[10:54] <philluminati> it*. Any ideas?
[10:54] <k1l_> Guest18291: which desktop. unity? gnome shell? mate? cinnamon?......
[10:56] <shambat> I'm getting some email from some cron-jobs I've set up, where can I check what e-mail address(es) cron tries to send these email to?
[10:56] <philluminati> don't worry, fixed it :-D
[10:56] <Guest18291> mm Compiz?
[10:56] <Haris> its working *whew*. it was a proxying issue
[10:56] <Haris> thanks all
[10:58] <k1l_> !pm | Guest18291
[10:58] <Guest18291> 1823 ? 00:00:00 gnome-session
[10:59] <k1l_> Guest18291: so you changed to gnome shell after install or installed the gnome shell iso?
[11:00] <k1l_> Guest18291: this is taking to long for me, i need to leave in short time. the error you get can be caused by the desktop you run. so specific informations are important. maybe others can help you
[11:01] <Guest18291> er.. :) np sorry for that
[11:01] <Guest18291> but im a newbie
[11:01] <Guest18291> i was just following some youtube instructions xD and this is actually my dual os
[11:04] <Daisyab__> hi. I set up a VM using a vagrantfile. On it was an Ubuntu 14.04 guest. However, it was in text console format and I wanted something more graphical so I ran sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop. Right now, ubuntu gets stuck in login loop. I've tried http://askubuntu.com/questions/223501/ubuntu-gets-stuck-in-a-login-loop but still no luck. Any help please?
[11:05] <bekks> Daisyab__: Can you still log in into a console?
[11:06] <Daisyab__> yes
[11:07] <bekks> Daisyab__: Do you have enough free space left?
[11:08] <Daisyab__> bekks: I have about 16MB left
[11:09] <bekks> Daisyab__: Thats the reason for your login loop. You need to free up space.
[11:13] <Daisyab__> bekks: ok. How much is needed
[11:13] <Daisyab__> I freed some up and had 137 MB available
[11:14] <Daisyab__> but it still doesn't log in
[11:14] <bekks> Daisyab__: Thats still far too less. :)
[11:15] <Daisyab__> bekks: oh, ok. Is there a way to add memory, while the VM is running? I've got a total of 495MB
[11:16] <bekks> Daisyab__: Memory is not the issue. Free space is the issue. :)
[11:17] <agenthex> hello, folks. is there a way to install the opencl driver for amd cpus without installing fglrx?
[11:18] <Daisyab__> bekks: ok. in that case i have 2.7GB left
[11:21] <SDr> hey guys, erm, how old is netstat?
[11:21] <ikonia> what do you mean how old ?
[11:21] <ikonia> the version or how long has netstat been around ?
[11:22] <SDr> ikonia, the later -how long of muscle memory is SS, like, actually, trying to dethrone?
[11:22] <SDr> ^^
[11:23] <ikonia> muscle memory ? dethone ? what are you talking about
[11:23] <ikonia> SDr: whats the actual question - in clear english please
[11:23] <SDr> ikonia, how long have netstat been around?
[11:23] <ikonia> SDr: do you mean how long has the gnu tool existed ?
[11:23] <SDr> ikonia, yes
[11:23] <ikonia> SDr: look on the gnu website for the version history and dates
[11:23] <ikonia> not really anything to do with ubuntu
[11:27] <Haris> hello all
[11:28] <Haris> what's a good mysql admin type gui tool for use with ubuntu
[11:28] <Seveas> good mysql admin's don't use gui tools :)
[11:28] <shambat> Haris: I've used MySQL Workbench
[11:28] <shambat> works nicely
[11:29] <bekks> Haris: phpmyadmin
[11:29] <ikonia> Haris: if you need a tool - stick wht official tools
[11:29] <ikonia> phpmyadmin is a huge danger
[11:29] <Haris> official one .. is ?
[11:29] <Haris> not using pma
[11:29] <ikonia> ....on the mysql website
[11:29] <Seveas> phpmyadmin is ok-ish, as long as you don't expose it to anyone else.
[11:29] <Haris> its to be used on dev's PC
[11:29] <shambat> MySQL Workbench is made by Oracle and has a free community edition
[11:29] <Seveas> mysql workbench is popular
[11:30] <ikonia> mysql workbench is the tool that replaced mysql admin
[11:30] <ikonia> it's used by professionals,
[11:30] <Seveas> but real dba's just use the mysql cli and their configuration tooling (puppet, chef etc...)
[11:31] <Haris> mysql workbench is too much for my tiny/simpler needs
[11:31] <Haris> something like heidisql on windows
[11:31] <ikonia> mysql workbench can be used basic
[11:31] <Ben64> phpmyadmin is fine as long as its not accessible publicly
[11:32] <ikonia> it's a very simple tool, it will be fine for pretty much any needs
[11:33] <Haris> how to install mysql workbench on ubuntu
[11:33] <ikonia> open the package manager
[11:33] <ikonia> search for it
[11:33] <ikonia> click install
[11:33] <ikonia> https://help.ubuntu.com for a basic guide on using ubuntu
[11:36] <Haris> mysql-workbench-community-6.3.3-1ubu1410-amd64.deb
[11:36] <ikonia> no
[11:36] <ikonia> thats a deb file
[11:36] <ikonia> thats not what I said
[11:36] <Haris> hmm
[11:36] <ikonia> open the package manager - search for the package, click install
[11:36] <Haris> this is the file it shows on mysql's download site, when OS = Ubuntu is selected
[11:36] <Haris> hmm
[11:36] <Haris> ok
[11:37] <ikonia> https://help.ubuntu.com for a basic guide on how to use ubuntu if you need it
[11:37] <shambat> Haris: if you're using the Ubuntu Desktop, use whats called the Ubuntu Software Center, its like an app-store type program where you can search and install programs
[11:38] <Haris> yes, I know. actually its not my box. another dev has to do it. and I can't do it on his box, untill the dev is free enough
[11:38] <Haris> thank you !
[11:38] <Haris> though
[11:39] <agenthex> anyone here use OpenCL on AMD hardware?
[11:44] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[11:56] <fishcooker> how to change group name from fish to fishcooker?
[12:00] <Gh0st-> how can I setup a vhost mask on my VPS
[12:01] <ikonia> vhost mask ?
[12:01] <ikonia> what do you mean ? an apache virtual host ?
[12:01] <Gh0st-> yeah
[12:01] <Gh0st-> irc@unaffiliated/ikonia
[12:02] <kong0> ikonia is owned by ikonia
[12:02] <Gh0st-> whatever comes after @
[12:02] <Gh0st-> not this one exactly
[12:02] <Gh0st-> but something I want
[12:03] <ikonia> read freenode.net and look at "cloak"
[12:03] <ikonia> ask in #freenode if you ned more info
[12:03] <ikonia> they don't do custom cloaks
[12:03] <ikonia> so you won't get a custom one
[12:13] <zeroC> hey
[12:13] <zeroC> is it possible to pin an application to an specific virtual desktop (in unity), I am using Ubuntu 15.04
[12:20] <Whiskey> I there anyway to get a list of shortcuts from a specefic folder when you are in a dir
[12:20] <Venker> hi people
[12:21] <zeroC> Whiskey: hm?
[12:22] <Venker> my mouse pointer is disappearing after 1 or 2 seconds if I leave it untouched, I've searched for help in forums but those solutions doesn't work. Any ideas?
[12:22] <Venker> I'm using 14.04 with gnome-panel
[12:22] <Whiskey> zeroC
[12:22] <Whiskey> You don´t get what i mean?
[12:22] <zeroC> Venker: does it kome back?
[12:22] <zeroC> Whiskey: exactly, i don't get what you mean : )
[12:23] <Venker> zeroC, yes, only if I move the mouse
[12:23] <Whiskey> zoerC if you are in a folder and do dir you see everything thats in it
[12:23] <Whiskey> how to just show the shortcuts thats in it?
[12:23] <zeroC> Whiskey: you mean in a terminal?
[12:23] <Whiskey> yeh
[12:23] <Whiskey> o damn i forgot to write it :/
[12:23] <zeroC> and with shortcuts,you mean all files and linked files in this directory?
[12:23] <Whiskey> yeh
[12:23] <zeroC> try instead of dir ls -la
[12:24] <Whiskey> cannot access ls: No such file or directory
[12:24] <zeroC> what OS do you use?
[12:25] <Whiskey> ubuntu?
[12:26] <zeroC> between the - and the la no space
[12:26] <Whiskey> 13:10
[12:26] <Unhammer> hey, so I just installed xubuntu 15.04 on a Lenovo Ideacentre A740, but I don't see any GRUB at all when I reboot after installation, it just goes right back into win8. anyone have a clue what I need to do?
[12:26] <Whiskey> get same problem
[12:26] <cfhowlett> !13.10| Whiskey
[12:26] <Whiskey> :P
[12:26] <zeroC> cfhowlett: :) thanks, but didn't ls work in 13.10 as well?
[12:27] <cfhowlett> zeroC, it did ... no idea why it would fail now
[12:27] <zeroC> that's what i thought as well...
[12:28] <zeroC> Whiskey: can you try to do /bin/ls -la
[12:28] <Whiskey> yeh it show more then i have to see
[12:28] <zeroC> your path is wrong
[12:28] <zeroC> ;)
[12:29] <zeroC> you need to add /bin as well... ;)
[12:29] <zeroC> Whiskey: and in that case, try man ls
[12:29] <zeroC> :)
[12:29] <Whiskey> well it shows everything that is in the folder, + shortcuts and where them go to
[12:29] <Whiskey> was that what it was going to do zeroC?`
[12:30] <zeroC> Whiskey: yep
[12:30] <Whiskey> then you got me werong
[12:30] <Venker> zeroC, have you got any idea of what could be happening?
[12:30] <Whiskey> wrong, i don´t care what the shortcuts willl go to as i know that
[12:30] <Whiskey> All i need is to show every shortcut that is in that folder
[12:30] <Whiskey> like
[12:30] <Whiskey> prog1,pog2,prog3,prog4,prog5 and so on
[12:30] <llutz> Whiskey: find path/ -type l
[12:30] <Whiskey> whitout any other folders or files
[12:31] <agenthex> is there a way to take a snapshot of my xorg.conf from a fresh *buntu installation?
[12:31] <Whiskey> mutch batter :D
[12:32] <agenthex> the xorg.conf file does not exist. i want to generate an xorg.conf file to backup that forces my current settings. how do i do this in Vivid?
[12:33] <llutz> agenthex: sudo X :2 -configure file will be in your $HOME
[12:34] <zeroC> Venker: nope, i assume its how it should work... :)0
[12:36] <Venker> zeroC, I found it. I think it was an unclutter option I set some week ago (because of a problem I got with chromium making my cursor dissappear)
[12:39] <Venker> now I need to restart again
[12:42] <Venker> thanks for all
[12:43] <Whiskey> is there anyway in find to only show the filename and not full path in list?
[12:45] <llutz> Whiskey: man find find /bin -type l -printf "%f\n"
[12:46] <Whiskey> yeh awsome
[12:47] <Whiskey> thanks alot :D
[12:51] <ShotChain> Does anyone know how to uninstall ubuntu and install Windows 7? For some reason my USB drive isn't showing up when I go to the boot options.
[12:51] <ikonia> ShotChain: thats not really anything to do with ubuntu
[12:51] <cfhowlett> ShotChain, that would be a ##windows question. this is ubuntu
[12:51] <ShotChain> alright
[12:51] <ShotChain> Sorry
[12:52] <cofffeebean> uninstall ubuntu ??.., i'd just format the ubuntu off & put 7 on the formatted or wiped drive & after u did that & updated 7.., u cud decide whether or not to put linux back on there next to 7 ..
[13:03] <Pinkamena_D> Can I get the command to revert to my current display config? When I dock my laptop the monitor always goes to the wrong side of the screen. I want to assign a keyboard shortcut for the xrandr so put it back the right way, I just need to query xrandr for the current config.
[13:11] <parsec2284> hi how do i gain access to my folder in usr share i want to delte unwanted gimp brushes like the pepper brush
[13:12] <parsec2284> i went in folder and typed sudo but still can't delete brushes
[13:12] <llutz> parsec2284: sudo rm /path/to/file/to/remove
[13:13] <k1l_> sudo is just "next command will have root permissions". its not a command itself
[13:14] <llutz> if not followed by -i or -s
[13:15] <parsec2284> rm: cannot remove ‘/path/to/file/to/remove’: No such file or directory
[13:16] <k1l_> parsec2284: /path/to/file was an example
[13:16] <parsec2284> oh
[13:16] <parsec2284> hmm
[13:16] <llutz> parsec2284: replace it with real path/filename
[13:16] <k1l_> you need to make that the real path and file ending
[13:18] <vit_> ппппппппп
[13:21] <parsec2284> i typed sudo rm /usr/share/gimp/2.0/brushes
[13:22] <parsec2284> rm: cannot remove ‘/usr/share/gimp/2.0/brushes’: Is a directory
[13:22] <llutz> parsec2284: rm -r to remove a directory
[13:22] <cfhowlett> parsec2284, but that will kill ALL brushes
[13:22] <k1l_> parsec2284: the error messages you pasted so far explained what the issue is.
[13:23] <k1l_> parsec2284: are you sure you want to remove all brushes?
[13:23] <parsec2284> lol no
[13:23] <parsec2284> i just want to remove ones i don't like
[13:23] <wastrel> linux
[13:23] <k1l_> so be careful with that rm then
[13:23] <parsec2284> i just want acces to the folder
[13:24] <k1l_> parsec2284: cd /path/to/folder
[13:24] <parsec2284> to chose which ones i want to delete
[13:25] <k1l_> parsec2284: that is a "how to use the shell" basics: cd to get to a place, ls to show what is there, rm to remove
[13:25] <k1l_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal parsec2284
[13:26] <cofffeebean> bbl all.., tc..
[13:31] <parsec2284> is there an easy way to unlock the folder
[13:31] <parsec2284> i typed cd /
[13:32] <cfhowlett> parsec2284, by design, NO because inexperienced users + unlocked folders = bad
[13:32] <k1l_> parsec2284: cd / just brings you to the / folder
[13:33] <guzzi_jones> i have a file i need to check for 75,000 patterns and if that pattern is found replace with another pattern.
[13:33] <k1l_> parsec2284: please read the link i gave you. it explains basic shell commands
[13:33] <guzzi_jones> sed with a file input takes forever
[13:33] <supertims> hai
[13:33] <guzzi_jones> grep to search for the pattern then sed also takes forever.
[13:33] <parsec2284> its in user/share/gimp/2.0/brushes
[13:33] <parsec2284> how would that pan out in a terminal command
[13:33] <supertims> how are you guys
[13:33] <k1l_> parsec2284: so why dont you cd to that folder?
[13:34] <guzzi_jones> is there a quick way to check a file for 75,000 different patterns?
[13:34] <cfhowlett> supertims, ask your ubuntu question
[13:34] <parsec2284> you mean go to the folder
[13:34] <parsec2284> and open terminal and type cd /
[13:34] <k1l_> parsec2284: cd /i/want/to/go/to/that/long/path/and/to/that/folders/at/the/end
[13:34] <rejns> please help, I can not get chrome to work with flash
[13:35] <rejns> I've tried a lot of stuff
[13:35] <rejns> but nothing seems to work
[13:35] <k1l_> rejns: chrome got its own flash. that works
[13:35] <rejns> why then
[13:35] <rejns> when installed chrome still can not play
[13:35] <k1l_> maybe you are on a bad site
[13:36] <rejns> https://www.adobe.com/shockwave/welcome/
[13:36] <rejns> this should suppose to work
[13:36] <rejns> but it says
[13:36] <rejns> this plugin is not supported
[13:37] <rejns> what can i do
[13:37] <rejns> please help
[13:37] <rejns> it's so frustrating
[13:37] <llutz> guzzi_jones:maybe awk is a way http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/29624/grep-huge-number-of-patterns-from-huge-file
[13:37] <k1l_> rejns: that site is shockwave, not flash
[13:37] <k1l_> rejns: https://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/ that is flash
[13:37] <rejns> ok this is working
[13:38] <k1l_> rejns: so, problem solved, flash works
[13:38] <rejns> what about shockwave then ?
[13:38] <rejns> can you at least tell me
[13:39] <rejns> when site says this plugin is not supported
[13:39] <rejns> how to determine which plugin is that
[13:39] <k1l_> rejns: depens on the site. a lot of warez sites fake that error to make you install a virus.
[13:39] <rejns> http://www.avtokadivec.si/?page_id=80
[13:39] <rejns> take a look at this
[13:39] <rejns> works in firefox
[13:40] <rejns> but cant get it to work in chrome
[13:40] <rejns> does it work for you?
[13:40] <parsec2284> i went to folder, typed cd/ in the folder terminal, then /usr/share/gimp/2.0/brushes
[13:40] <parsec2284> it did not work though
[13:41] <k1l_> parsec2284: please show the exact command here you used
[13:41] <parsec2284> no body ever said linux is easy
[13:41] <parsec2284> ok
[13:41] <k1l_> parsec2284: that got nothing to do with linux. i bet you cant use shell commands on windows too.
[13:41] <parsec2284> go to folder that has brushes in it
[13:42] <parsec2284> in that folder, type cd /
[13:42] <k1l_> parsec2284: that is not a command
[13:42] <k1l_> parsec2284: no
[13:42] <parsec2284> lol ok
[13:42] <parsec2284> hmm
[13:42] <parsec2284> alright
[13:43] <k1l_> cd is the command. it means "change directory". it needs you to give the path where it should change to. so "cd /home/user/Downloads" will make it go into the Downloads folder in your home.
[13:43] <k1l_> parsec2284: please read the link i gave you. you really need to read into that to get the basics.
[13:43] <cfhowlett> but of course you would KNOW all that had you actually read the "how to use terminal" link you were sent
[13:43] <parsec2284> i did but actually
[13:44] <parsec2284> but ill try again
[13:44] <MonkeyDust> parsec2284 tip: first learn the basics, then start modifying things
[13:44] <k1l_> parsec2284: really read it. not just fly over the text and copy the commands.
[13:44] <parsec2284> ok.
[13:44] <k1l_> rejns: it works in firefox and does not for chrome/chromium
[13:44] <rejns> same here
[13:44] <parsec2284> ill spend about a half hour seeing if i can figure it out
[13:45] <rejns> is it possible to fix that?
[13:45] <parsec2284> and if i cant il be back in half hour
[13:45] <rejns> how can i determine which plugin is that
[13:45] <rejns> it's so frustrating
[13:45] <k1l_> rejns: see if that helps: https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=173790#c31
[13:46] <k1l_> rejns: its the shwockwave plugin. and that is known to be an issue in general. not only i this issue
[13:46] <brothersome> Hello, is there something wrong with the ACPI in the newest update?
[13:47] <brothersome> After pause my fan blows fully
[13:47] <rejns> did you mean deleting pepperflash could help ?
[13:47] <rejns> i dont know which post to look at
[13:48] <k1l_> rejns: post 31.
[13:48] <k1l_> rejns: but i didnt test it.
[13:48] <rejns> i will
[13:48] <rejns> moment
[13:48] <rejns> thank you
[13:50] <rejns> ok i did this: rm -rf ~/.config/google-chrome/PepperFlash
[13:50] <rejns> restart chrome
[13:50] <rejns> and still the same
[13:50] <rejns> : \
[13:50] <k1l_> rejns: maybe that helps more: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2261754
[13:50] <brothersome> I have a problem with my fan - can somebody help me?
[13:51] <rejns> ill try thank you
[13:55] <rejns> k1l_, it didn't help, i think i'm giving up on this one
[13:55] <rejns> thank you for your time
[13:59] <parsec2284> ok, i typed
[13:59] <parsec2284> cd / usr / share / gimp / 2.0 / brushes
[13:59] <parsec2284> and it was all reconized
[13:59] <k1l_> parsec2284: without the spaces
[13:59] <k1l_> cd /go/to/this/folder
[14:01] <parsec2284> ok that worked
[14:01] <parsec2284> now
[14:01] <parsec2284> so now i need to acces brushes
[14:01] <parsec2284> will try to go deeper
[14:02] <k1l_> now ls to list what is in there where you are right now
[14:03] <parsec2284> k im all the way into the brush folder now
[14:03] <parsec2284> now how to do delete the brushes i dont want
[14:03] <parsec2284> i only want to leave the 1 pixel brush
[14:04] <parsec2284> and delete the rest
[14:04] <k1l_> parsec2284: so ls lists all the brushes?
[14:04] <parsec2284> yep
[14:05] <k1l_> so remove them with "rm filename" now
[14:06] <Pici> /70/36
[14:12] <abdullah> can anyone help me installing ios_webkit_proxy .. ?
[14:13] <abdullah> am have make error and don't know how to figure out my trouble
[14:18] <parsec2284> ok i closed the terminal, i opened it to see if i could repeat this, i learned, it wont work with normal terminal and that i need to be in file manager terminal but, all worked, and ls shows all brushes but is there a way to select certain brushes using ls
[14:19] <jayjo> Can I store a variable in the environment that will persist? I need to update a database and store the time that the update was done, so the next time I run the same sql I can check what records need to be updated
[14:19] <jayjo> is it just better to do this differently, like a table that only stores when I last updated
[14:20] <drmagoo> Anyone here on 14.04 with a nvidia gtx9XX-card and using xorg-edgers drivers? When I try to install the drivers from there, it doesnt install the Xorg-driver. Any ideas?
[14:20] <bashed> What is the command to run the "Additional Drivers" without using the gui?
[14:20] <jayjo> and pull the value from that table
[14:20] <dearpx> hmmm
[14:20] <tinyhippo> HDMI output keeps cutting out from my Dell M3800, what would be the most likely cause? (I've ruled out monitor/cable issues)
[14:23] <wastrel> jayjo: you have to put it in a file to have things persist
[14:23] <wastrel> you can read the value into the environment if you want but if it's in the file you could just read it from the file
[14:25] <parsec2284> to remove file, i typed
[14:26] <parsec2284> cd/ usr/share/gimp/2.0/brushes/ enter, ls to show files, now i want to remove the legacy brushes
[14:27] <parsec2284> Folder called Legacy
[14:27] <parsec2284> file*
[14:27] <parsec2284> and folder
[14:28] <parsec2284> so i typed cd/usr/share/gimp/2.0/brushes enter type ls, and rm Legacy
[14:28] <parsec2284> rm Legacy
[14:29] <parsec2284> cd /usr/share/gimp/2.0/brushes/rm Legacy
[14:29] <MonkeyDust> parsec2284 start here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal#File_.26_Directory_Commands
[14:35] <DammitJim> do I have to enable acl for LVM partitions?
[14:35] <DammitJim> I am on 14.04 and tune2fs -l /dev/sda1 | grep acl returns Default mount options: user_xattr acl
[14:37] <DolphinDream> howdy bunterz
[14:38] <DolphinDream> do git packages get installed by default with a fresh installation of ubuntu 14?
[14:38] <parsec2284> cd /user/share/gimp.2.0/brushes/rmlegacy
[14:38] <parsec2284> No such file or directory
[14:39] <Pici> DolphinDream: I don't think so.
[14:39] <parsec2284> i just dont understand how to incorporate the rm 'remove' file thing
[14:39] <parsec2284> ugh
[14:40] <parsec2284> ive read the page quite a few times
[14:40] <wastrel> DolphinDream: i don't think git is installed by default
[14:41] <Pici> parsec2284: each command needs to be separate. It looks like you're trying to type everything on one line.
[14:41] <DolphinDream> ok. thx Pici wastrel
[14:42] <DammitJim> sorry, machine locked up
[14:43] <DammitJim> do LVMs carry the acl option from the physical partition?
[14:43] <DammitJim> or do I need to set that up separately?
[14:45] <parsec2284> i typed, cd /usr/share/gimp/2.0/brushes
[14:45] <parsec2284> that goes through
[14:45] <parsec2284> after that goes through i type
[14:45] <parsec2284> rm Legacy
[14:45] <parsec2284> which should delete the legacy folder
[14:46] <parsec2284> but i get no such file or directory
[14:46] <parsec2284> then i tried rm /Legacy same
[14:46] <parsec2284> im trying man
[14:47] <odeda> Hey guys, a little help with packaging please? I have a Dockerfile that builds a debian package using dpkg-buildpackage, and when building the image on different hosts, I get different resuts.
[14:53] <parsec2284> what could i be doing wrong?
[14:55] <neldogz> Hello everyone, trying to add a script to my 15.04 system so that it will apt-get dist-upgrade on a schedule but keep on getting this error message: debconf: unable to initialize frontend: Dialog .... I've already tried: DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -y -qq but same problem. Any suggestions?
[14:55] <parsec2284> alright i give u[
[14:55] <parsec2284> up
[14:56] <Doyle> Does anyone recognize what this monitoring software is? http://picpaste.com/MrRobotMonitoring.png I think there's a bit of the name in the top corner, but not having any luck googling "ulles"...
[14:58] <DammitJim> I just did a setfacl -m g:"managers":rwx /home/share
[14:58] <DammitJim> if I go in there and do a getfacl /home/share, I can see the acls
[14:58] <wastrel> Dulles prob
[14:58] <DammitJim> but when I try to access the folder with a user that belongs to the managers group, I get a Permission Denied :(
[14:58] <DammitJim> what else should I look into?
[15:11] <zamba> why, why, why does ubuntu suggest a separate /boot partition with just 100M?
[15:11] <tinyhippo> why do you need more than 100M
[15:12] <zamba> tinyhippo: it's filling up.. old kernels stuck there.. and full disk
[15:13] <wastrel> apt-get autoclean?
[15:13] <tinyhippo> ^
[15:13] <wastrel> ah no it's autoremove? iono something
[15:16] <awrev> hello, I have multiple annoyances. one is that the mouse occasionally slows down and doesnt easily go to where I move it on the touchpad. the other is that the keyboard layout changes to another language by itself. the latter is happening quite often lately
[15:18] <wastrel> awrev: you should check your ibus settings and see if you're accidentally changing the input method
[15:19] <wastrel> awrev: system settings > text entry
[15:19] <wastrel> see what the keyboard shortcuts are for changing the language
[15:25] <varunwachaspati> Urgent Help needed: not able to detect wifi networks on my Ubuntu 15.04, Thanks in advance
[15:27] <varunwachaspati> any pointers will be appreciated.
[15:28] <ioria> varunwachaspati, check ifconfig, iwconfig and route
[15:30] <Guiri> I'm trying to find the cause of a bug where, when sshed into a 14.04.2 box, tab completion will cause the entire ssh session to hang. ANy ideas?
[15:31] <varunwachaspati> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11567865/
[15:31] <wastrel> Guiri: i would go into /etc/bash_completion.d and start trying to identify whcih file in there is causing the problem
[15:31] <wastrel> Guiri: i'd remove all of them and then start replacing them one at a time until the problem returned
[15:32] <Guiri> it seems to be related to directory completion. `cd /etc/ngin` [tab][tab]
[15:33] <varunwachaspati> ioria: any clue what's going wrong?
[15:35] <ioria> varunwachaspati, if you use wifi, disable eth0 for now. your wifi ip is 10.10.0.1 and your gateway 1.0.207.49-ras ? (that i don't understand)
[15:36] <tinyhippo> ioria: I'm guessing the gateway is 49.207.0.1 (and I'm assuming a raspberry pi)
[15:36] <varunwachaspati> ioria, as I am not able to detect wifi, I am using ethernet now, disabling it will leave me disconnected
[15:37] <varunwachaspati> tinyhippo. my machine is Dell Inspiron Laptop
[15:37] <ioria> varunwachaspati, right. can you ping your router/gateway ?
[15:37] <varunwachaspati> ioria, nope
[15:38] <seed-begger> I am trying to download Lubuntu 15.04, but my download is stuck at 74%. Please, can someone help ? Seed Lubuntu 15.04.
[15:38] <henry8989> hello everyone I just installed kubuntu on one of my PC's and love it like I o on my other PC's that have it, but my wireless network adapter based off of a realtek RTL8187B chipset keeps disconnecting after a while and I have to then reconnect it, when this computer ran windows 7 it never did that the wireless adapter always stayed connected any suggestions?
[15:39] <ioria> varunwachaspati, are static or dynamic ip ? put it static in Network onnection and enter the gateway ip
[15:40] <ioria> varunwachaspati, i really don't understand your gateway ip .... ^0^
[15:40] <tinyhippo> ioria: read varunwachaspati's IP backwards!
[15:40] <varunwachaspati> ioria, sorry for the lack of technical knowledge but I am unable to follow what you are asking me to do here
[15:42] <ioria> tinyhippo, can you explain, please ?
[15:42] <ioria> varunwachaspati, open Network Connection , select your interface , Method -> manual and enter the ip, gateway, and dns
[15:43] <tinyhippo> ioria: the gateway is a hostname, reading it backwards you can infer that it is 49.207.0.1
[15:43] <tinyhippo> ioria: the eth0 address is 49.207.46.20 therefore a gateway of 49.207.0.1 makes sense
[15:43] <ioria> tinyhippo, oh... thank you
[15:44] <tinyhippo> ioria: the equivalent of 238.209.58.216.in-addr.arpa mapping to 216.58.209.238
[15:44] <tinyhippo> ioria: no worries
[15:47] <c_korn> hello, a user trying to install this package http://build.getdeb.net/ubuntu/pool/apps/j/jnetmap/jnetmap_0.5.4-1~getdeb1_all.deb gets the error: xdg-mime: file '/usr/share/mime/application/x-jnetmap.xml' does not exist. what is this error about? why is such a file expected to be in the package? the installation succeeds here.
[15:48] <pbx> c_korn, does the account installing the package have equivalent privileges on both systems?
[15:51] <c_korn> pbx: "sudo dpkg -i jnetmap_0.5.4-1~getdeb1_all.deb" is the command. so it has root privileges
[15:52] <pbx> then i don't know.
[15:53] <pbx> perhaps comparing the full output of the install on both machines will yield clues
[16:10] <parsec2284> hi this has nothing to do with ubuntu but does anybody have any ideas for alternative wacom tablets i know wacoms are popular but i just dont buy the hype i feel like there build quality is cheap and getting cheaper by the year and that they are living on there name
[16:10] <mahon0> part
[16:10] <mahon0> PART
[16:10] <MonkeyDust> mahon0 it's /part
[16:11] <parsec2284> something that will work out of the box with ubuntu
[16:11] <mahon0> oh tnx ;)
[16:11] <MonkeyDust> parsec2284 what's not working on your device?
[16:12] <parsec2284> i dont like the size
[16:12] <parsec2284> i dont like the cheap platic feel
[16:12] <parsec2284> i feel wacom products are made poorly
[16:13] <parsec2284> i dont like how my hand drags across the plastic like it glu
[16:13] <parsec2284> glue
[16:13] <parsec2284> there must be something better
[16:13] <parsec2284> even if its not name brand
[16:14] <parsec2284> i should ask on the ubuntu forums
[16:14] <parsec2284> i will
[16:15] <yamoonsun> Anyone know of a good program to back up a DVD image via .iso ?
[16:15] <k1l> yamoonsun: you mean save the dvd as a .iso on the disk?
[16:16] <TyrfingMjolnir> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11568631/
[16:16] <TyrfingMjolnir> # cat /etc/issue
[16:16] <drmagoo> Anyone here on 14.04 with a nvidia gtx9XX-card and using xorg-edgers drivers? When I try to install the drivers from there, it doesnt install the Xorg-driver. Any ideas?
[16:16] <TyrfingMjolnir> Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS \n \l
[16:16] <yamoonsun> Yeah; I was using DVDDecyrpter for Windows previously. I tried dkopp, but it won't work with my kernel.
[16:16] <k1l> TyrfingMjolnir: ubuntu 10.04 is end of support anyway. you want to upgrade to 12.04 at least
[16:17] <MonkeyDust> TyrfingMjolnir 10.04 is dead, upgrade to a supported release, then ask again
[16:17] <TyrfingMjolnir> I'm in the process of upgrading to 14.04
[16:17] <TyrfingMjolnir> But it's stuck
[16:17] <k1l> yamoonsun: there is "dd", which is a terminal program which makes a 1:1 copy and that can be saved as .iso
[16:17] <MonkeyDust> TyrfingMjolnir backup and fresh install is the fastest, easiest, cleanest way
[16:17] <yamoonsun> Will it remove the region locks also, or include them in the .iso?
[16:18] <k1l> TyrfingMjolnir: so you got libc-bin from 12.04 already? from a PPA?
[16:18] <k1l> yamoonsun: that is a 1:1 copy then
[16:18] <TyrfingMjolnir> Nope
[16:18] <TyrfingMjolnir> I just realized it's running the upgrade in screen
[16:18] <k1l> TyrfingMjolnir: stop.
[16:19] <k1l> TyrfingMjolnir: let the upgrade run. dont fiddle with the packagesystem while it upgrades
[16:19] * yamoonsun presumes that means the region locks are still going to be there
[16:19] <k1l> yamoonsun: http://askubuntu.com/questions/147800/ripping-dvd-to-iso-accurately that got some more suggestions
[16:19] <yamoonsun> Thanks =3
[16:22] <qui3t_n3rd> hello! I have an SD card that I think I screwed up the FATs on, is there a way to destructively make one partition again?
[16:22] <qui3t_n3rd> (Theres no data on this card that I care about, it's going to be imaged with NOOBS for a Raspberry Pi)
[16:25] <qui3t_n3rd> I get this message while trying to reformat the entire card: Error synchronizing after initial wipe: Timed out waiting for object (udisks-error-quark, 0)
[16:25] <TyrfingMjolnir> k1l: Hmm
[16:25] <TyrfingMjolnir> Already too late
[16:25] <TyrfingMjolnir> That upgrade was started last July
[16:25] <TyrfingMjolnir> Something went wrong
[16:26] <chronicstardust> hey there
[16:26] <k1l> TyrfingMjolnir: oh
[16:26] <qui3t_n3rd> hello chronicstardust!
[16:26] <chronicstardust> how are you?
[16:26] <TyrfingMjolnir> Oh, welll
[16:26] <TyrfingMjolnir> There is Jessie, I'll just do a reinstall
[16:27] <k1l> TyrfingMjolnir: lsb_release is 10.04? what does sources.list say about the release?
[16:27] <qui3t_n3rd> chronicstardust: unless you have a support question I must direct you to #ubuntu-offtopic for OT chat :P
[16:27] <chronicstardust> cool cool lol
[16:28] <TyrfingMjolnir> precise
[16:28] <TyrfingMjolnir> # lsb_release
[16:28] <TyrfingMjolnir> No LSB modules are available.
[16:28] <k1l> TyrfingMjolnir: seems like the upgrade is canceld somehow
[16:28] <yamoonsun> Apparently I have to install libdvdcss to make a decrypted .iso file, so I downloaded it, and have no idea how to install from a tarbar
[16:28] <k1l> TyrfingMjolnir: the screen with the upgrade did stop?
[16:29] <k1l> !libdvdcss | yamoonsun
[16:29] <TyrfingMjolnir> It hung on the question where asked to run ssh in the background in case some services will drop during install
[16:29] <yamoonsun> Is it kll?
[16:29] <yamoonsun> http://download.videolan.org/pub/libdvdcss/1.3.99/
[16:29] <qui3t_n3rd> can someone help me with reformatting an SD card?
[16:30] <k1l> TyrfingMjolnir: give that a go. hopefully that will make it to 12.04
[16:30] <k1l> yamoonsun: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[16:30] <yamoonsun> What filesystem do you want to utilize n3rd?
[16:30] <TyrfingMjolnir> Give what a go?
[16:30] <k1l> yamoonsun: that explains the procedure for ubuntu
[16:30] <k1l> TyrfingMjolnir: that upgrade in the screen
[16:31] <TyrfingMjolnir> only 2 options there
[16:31] <TyrfingMjolnir> x = destroy
[16:31] <TyrfingMjolnir> r = ressurect
[16:31] <TyrfingMjolnir> no ressurection
[16:31] <qui3t_n3rd> yamoonsun: Trying to set up as just FAT32, the image I'm pushing will repartition the card as it installs
[16:32] <k1l> TyrfingMjolnir: hmm.
[16:33] <qui3t_n3rd> My problem is when I tell the Disks application to format the card, it displays a full 4GiB partition for a second, then goes back to the two 2GiB partitions that are currently present
[16:34] <qui3t_n3rd> I also get an error message, Error synchronizing after initial wipe: Timed out waiting for object (udisks-error-quark, 0)
[16:34] <TyrfingMjolnir> Is there a way to see the name of the motherboard from the command line?
[16:34] <parabool> hello. i've just booted my new Dell XPS13 linux edition for the first time. I think something went wrong; I got into the system all right, and I configured my wireless connection. After clicking continue, I had to choose my location (default was New York); the laptop then rebooted. I am now in OEM user, I have no root password etc. Can i run the whole "setup" again?
[16:34] <parabool> thanks
[16:35] <henry8989> i just installed ubuntu and my wireless network adapter based off of a realtek RTL8187B chipset keeps disconnecting after a while and I have to then reconnect it, any suggestions on how to fix it?
[16:38] <TyrfingMjolnir> dmidecode -t 2
[16:38] <Johnny_Linux> kobrah !!
[16:38] <Johnny_Linux> oops
[16:38] <nudoge> asdf
[16:39] <nudoge> sorry
[16:39] <bbb> ignore me plz its just a test for my project
[16:40] <pavlos> parabool, seems your laptop came with ubuntu 14.04 pre-installed. there is no root pass, whenever you need admin privs, prefix your command with sudo, like sudo apt-get update
[16:40] <rOm3O> Hello friends
[16:40] <rOm3O> I need help
[16:40] <parabool> pavlos: oh. seems stupid of me not to try that -_- sorry
[16:40] <pavlos> bbb, there is a #test channel
[16:40] <rOm3O> I installed lubuntu last night
[16:41] <rOm3O> but i cant install applications
[16:41] <rOm3O> neither i can update it
[16:41] <parabool> pavlos: it doesn't work. it asks me the password for oem...
[16:42] <harishkrupo> rOm3O, what does it show when you type sudo apt-get update ?
[16:42] <pavlos> parabool, is that a user DELL created? I dont know how DELL setup the laptop.
[16:42] <rOm3O> I am trying to install updates
[16:42] <rOm3O> may be it works
[16:42] <parabool> pavlos: yes. XPS13 linux edition, ubuntu 14.04
[16:42] <k1l> rOm3O: run a "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade" in a terminal and show the output in a pastebin please
[16:43] <rOm3O> I will
[16:43] <rOm3O> its updating
[16:43] <pavlos> parabool, is that a user DELL created? did DELL provide the pass for user OEM? how are you logged on now? (top right, click, should tell you user)
[16:44] <parabool> pavlos: user is OEM. it logs on automatically on startup. if i log out, i can't log in again until i reboot the system
[16:44] <parabool> pavlos: there's OEM and guest user available.
[16:44] <IAmMe643> My mic is not recognized.
[16:45] <pavlos> parabool, can you create another user from system settings | user groups?
[16:45] <harishkrupo> parabool, can the user oem use sudo ?
[16:45] <parabool> harishkrupo: it can, but i dont have the password. pavlos i can't
[16:46] <knocktwice> parabool: the password is your password, not a special password
[16:46] <parabool> knocktwice: the system never asked me for a password
[16:46] <harishkrupo> parabool, try to reset its password by booting into single user mode
[16:46] <parabool> harishkrupo: single user mode ?
[16:47] <harishkrupo> parabool, reboot your machine and choose ubuntu recovery from grub menu and you will have an option to drop into root shell
[16:48] <knocktwice> parabool: try 'sudo passwd'
[16:48] <harishkrupo> parabool, from there you can change the password by typing passwd <username>
[16:48] <knocktwice> if you have no password at all, that should allow you to set one
[16:49] <parabool> knocktwice: didn't work, seems there is a pw. harishkrupo i'll try it now. brb
[16:49] <misterjinx> hey guys, do you know why firefox wasn't updated in the packages ? i'm on trusty and the available version is still 38 although official firefox version is 38.0.5 (in the past there was always available the last version) ?
[16:49] <rOm3O> It works now :)
[16:49] <rOm3O> THank you so much guyz :)
[16:49] <rOm3O> harishkrupo are you from india bro?
[16:49] <IAmMe643> My mic is not recognized.
[16:50] <Unhammer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11567918/ anyone got a clue what I should do to set up my UEFI windows 8.1 to boot into ubuntu? it just keeps booting windows without giving me any grub menu or anything like that
[16:50] <daftykins> misterjinx: either the mirror you're on isn't updated, the latest version isn't coming to Ubuntu, or it's not ready yet - none of which are a big issue
[16:50] <Unhammer> - already turned off fastboot, keeps booting windows
[16:50] <Unhammer> - tried boot-repair auto, results at http://paste.ubuntu.com/11567918/, but keeps booting windows
[16:51] <Unhammer>
[16:51] <Unhammer> - turned off BIOS "quickboot" whatever that is, but keeps booting windows
[16:51] <Unhammer> - turned off secureboot, but keeps booting windows
[16:51] <daftykins> Unhammer: enter the EFI and change the boot device from 'Windows Boot Manager' to the hard disk / SSD device entry.
[16:51] <Unhammer> - tried "cmd.exe" as admin and "bcdedit /set {bootmgr} path
[16:51] <Unhammer> \EFI\ubuntu\shimx64.efi", but keeps booting windows
[16:51] <Unhammer> enter the efi?
[16:51] <daftykins> yes
[16:51] <Unhammer> the BIOS menu?
[16:51] <daftykins> EFI setup :)
[16:51] <parabool> GRUB doesn't even show at startup.
[16:51] <parabool> Just boots Ubuntu
[16:51] <parabool> BRB
[16:51] <Unhammer> parabool, it shouldn't show you mean?
[16:52] <daftykins> i think parabool is on about something else, not your situ
[16:52] <Unhammer> oh, sorry :)
[16:52] <qui3t_n3rd> I can't delete a partition on this SD card, Disks shows an error message Error deleting partition /dev/mmcblk0p1: Command-line `parted --script "/dev/mmcblk0" "rm 1"' exited with non-zero exit status 1: Error: /dev/mmcblk0: unrecognised disk label (udisks-error-quark, 0)
[16:52] <Unhammer> daftykins, I've done the thing where I go "advanced boot settings" → troubleshoot→ advanced settings → UEFI settings
[16:53] <wad> So when I connect to my work's VPN from my laptop, my route goes through that VPN, but my DNS is messed up. I need to override it. At least, I think that's what's happening. What's the Right Way to temporarily override my DNS for while I'm on the VPN?
[16:53] <Unhammer> that gives me a typical "old bios"-looking menu
[16:53] <daftykins> Unhammer: that sounds more like something you're doing in Windows?
[16:53] <Unhammer> but when I move the ubuntu entry up in the boot menu, it keeps moving windows up with it
[16:53] <Unhammer> daftykins, it reboots into the bios thing
[16:53] <daftykins> i'm saying to enter the EFI setup screens e.g. via powering off windows 8 with "shutdown -s -t 1" then powering up and pressing the key on your system to enter the EFI
[16:54] <daftykins> alright, so now you proceed to following the advice in my first statement
[16:54] <daftykins> check the available boot devices and change it from 'Windows Boot Manager' -> the HDD/SSD device name
[16:54] <Unhammer> I can't
[16:54] <daftykins> can you give a little bit more detail than that?
[16:54] <Unhammer> if I press - to move ubuntu up the priority list, it pushes windows up above it
[16:54] <harishkrupo_> parabool, here is a website which will help you do that http://tarunlinux.blogspot.in/2014/02/ubuntu-1204-grub-to-boot-into-single.html
[16:55] <Unhammer> it moves the whole "[HDDs]" as one group
[16:55] <daftykins> you need to find the relevant HDD section and change the order in that
[16:55] <daftykins> maybe provide photos of every EFI setup screen if you can't work it out
[16:56] <Unhammer> ooh here's something peculiar:
[16:56] <Unhammer> OS Optimized Defaults: <Enabled>
[16:57] <Unhammer> «select enabled to meet windows 8 certification requiriemnts»
[16:57] <Unhammer> no thank you :)
[16:57] <daftykins> that bears no relevance to your issue
[16:58] <Unhammer> hm :/
[16:58] <Unhammer> it didn't let me change the order anyway :()
[16:58] <daftykins> because you're probably looking at the wrong thing
[16:59] <daftykins> so if you have a smartphone or a camera, you can take pics and upload them
[16:59] <daftykins> or find a manual for your device
[16:59] <dschatzberg> hey all, I'm trying to use the acpi-cpufreq driver instead of the intel-pstate one on my ubuntu 14.10 server. I pass intel_pstate=disable on the command line but then I get no cpufreq driver, any ideas?
[17:00] <daftykins> did you install cpufreqd and cpufrequtils?
[17:01] <qui3t_n3rd> alright, progress update: I'm running a dd command to zero the SD card completely, hoping that will do something (dd doesn't show progress)
[17:01] <dschatzberg> daftykins, have cpufrequtils not cpufreqd
[17:01] <knocktwice> qui3t_n3rd: you could also try 'shred'
[17:02] <daftykins> i'm not sure if the daemon package is a prerequisite
[17:02] <daftykins> qui3t_n3rd: yes it will if you issue its' PID with a kill -USR1 flag
[17:02] <dschatzberg> daftykins, once I install it, what do I do to activate the driver?
[17:02] <daftykins> dschatzberg: i am not familiar with its' method of operation, but i'd bet it's documented somewhere out there
[17:02] <daftykins> !info cpufreqd utopic
[17:03] <daftykins> !info cpufrequtils utopic
[17:03] <daftykins> bam.
[17:03] <dschatzberg> daftykins, cpufreqd isn't what I want then
[17:04] <dschatzberg> I want to activate the driver, which seems to concern the kernel, not control the driver (which it seems cpufreqd does)
[17:06] <daftykins> dschatzberg: i think you misunderstand
[17:07] <knocktwice> qui3t_n3rd: expect about 25minutes per gig
[17:08] <qui3t_n3rd> knocktwice: so 100minutes, thank you
[17:08] <dschatzberg> daftykins, cpufreq-info reports "no or unknown cpufreq driver is active on this CPU" - I want to fix that. Cpufreqd seems to change the frequency dynamically (it interacts with the driver)
[17:09] <Unhammer> daftykins, https://unhammer.org/owncloud/index.php/s/uk1sGskL9sAExcC#//IMG_20150604_190446.jpg my UEFI BIOS menus
[17:11] <daftykins> dschatzberg: right, but you have yet to find an alternative plan...
[17:11] <dschatzberg> daftykins, my point is that cpufreqd won't help me fix my problem
[17:11] <SchrodingersScat> qui3t_n3rd: you can have dd display progress, think it's sudo kill -s USR1 `pidof dd`
[17:12] <daftykins> dschatzberg: ok if you're sure...
[17:12] <rOm3O> i got this http://www.picpaste.com/2015-06-04-220940_1024x768_scrot-ZMHUVMEC.png
[17:13] <IAmMe643> My mic is not recognized.
[17:14] <daftykins> Unhammer: no see your hard disk device, the 1TB seagate, is listed above both the Windows Boot Manager and Ubuntu. You also have legacy boot enabled, so i suspect what you've done is have windows 8, you went to install ubuntu but you disabled EFI boot and booted ubuntu and installed it as legacy instead - correct?
[17:14] <snkcld> im having a really annoying issue ;(
[17:14] <daftykins> rOm3O: Mint is not supported in here
[17:15] <snkcld> any time i copy _or_ paste in chrome, my browser tab freezes
[17:15] <snkcld> this happens on chromium, too
[17:15] <snkcld> does anyone have any idea how i would go about debugging this?
[17:15] <daftykins> Unhammer: Devices tab -> ATA Drive Setup would have been interesting
[17:17] <Unhammer> daftykins, where's the 1TB seagate? (I do see that 8gb thing that came after I tried opening some windows repair boot manager thing, I didn't let it actually run the repair)
[17:18] <daftykins> Unhammer: Primary Boot Sequence list, ST1000LM014 blah blah
[17:18] <daftykins> it says 8GB because that's a seagate hybrid drive, 1TB mechanical with 8GB NAND for cache
[17:19] <Unhammer> yeah, that one appeared after I tried the windows boot repair thing, but that was after trying all the other options
[17:19] <qui3t_n3rd> oh dd just finished after 1269.9 seconds to zero the card
[17:19] <daftykins> Unhammer: so can you comment as to whether you installed ubuntu in EFI or legacy mode?
[17:19] <daftykins> !uefi | Unhammer see here for the difference
[17:19] <Unhammer> The boot screen for the installer was a black background one that showed windows there
[17:19] <Unhammer> which apparantly should be efi
[17:20] <Unhammer> (as opposed to the fancy colour-background one)
[17:20] <parabool> harishkrupo: thanks, i will have a look.
[17:20] <Unhammer> which lead me to believe it was EFI, though can I find that out for sure from a live session? (since I can't actually boot into the ubuntu itself)
[17:20] <harishkrupo> parabool, welcome
[17:20] <Unhammer> https://unhammer.org/owncloud/index.php/s/wntvvDrXQOo4MS5 ← output of bcdedit if that helps
[17:21] <daftykins> Unhammer: are boot devices listed on the 'exit' page?
[17:21] <daftykins> so it's present but it's somehow skipping over it
[17:21] <daftykins> fun fun
[17:22] <Unhammer> maybe I should try reinstalling with an EFI-only image
[17:22] <Unhammer> like https://askubuntu.com/questions/395879/how-to-create-uefi-only-bootable-usb-live-media/
[17:23] <harishkrupo> Unhammer, if you want to find out if you are booted from uefi then check if the file /sys/firmware/efi exists
[17:23] <daftykins> thats not the situation :)
[17:24] <Unhammer> harishkrupo, I don't want to check if I'm booted from efi, since I can't boot from efi …
[17:24] <Unhammer> I want to check, from a live session, if what I installed was efi
[17:25] <harishkrupo> ok...
[17:25] <daftykins> Unhammer: it looks pretty certain given the EFI boot images are there
[17:25] <DolphinDream> what is the difference between the git package and git-core package ? if i installed git should i also install git-core ?
[17:25] <Unhammer> well, I did do the boot-repair thing …
[17:25] <teward> DolphinDream: i think git-core is obsoleted now
[17:25] <daftykins> Unhammer: if you boot a live session and confirm they're present on the EFI boot volume that should be fine
[17:25] <Unhammer> also the bcdedit thing
[17:26] <Unhammer> oh, /sys is something on disk
[17:26] <daftykins> Unhammer: right but there has been no result
[17:26] <Unhammer> thoughtit was like /proc
[17:26] <teward> DolphinDream: yeah, git-core is obsolete, just use `git`
[17:26] <DolphinDream> kool teward .. where did you check that ?
[17:27] <teward> DolphinDream: the package description line from `apt-cache show git-core`. Also the packages.u.c site - http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=git-core&searchon=names&exact=1&suite=all§ion=all
[17:27] <Darts301> Hello
[17:27] <DolphinDream> awesome. thx teward
[17:28] <Unhammer> oh, and https://unhammer.org/owncloud/index.php/s/kon8laeaYyFIPm6 was the only thing on the EXIT screen
[17:29] <daftykins> Unhammer: and the other page i mentioned?
[17:29] <Unhammer> legacy support seems disabled (it's called CSM Compatibility Support Mode)
[17:29] <daftykins> yes i know what CSM is :)
[17:30] <daftykins> you shouldn't even really have it on
[17:30] <Unhammer> yeah it's off
[17:31] <Unhammer> https://unhammer.org/owncloud/index.php/s/lvOluNige9eWB3C
[17:31] <Unhammer> ata devices doesn't seem helpful
[17:32] <majoy> let me try
[17:33] <majoy> is this the correct way to send message here
[17:33] <daftykins> Unhammer: heh yeah that wasn't what i expected. ok, you need one of our resident boot experts. what was your ubuntu installation procedure, did you resize from within 8, then install beside?
[17:33] <daftykins> majoy: typing on your keyboard? yep
[17:33] <Unhammer> resize from installer
[17:34] <daftykins> bleh
[17:34] <daftykins> Jordan_U: ping
[17:34] <majoy> hard to ditinguish
[17:35] <daftykins> majoy: do you have an ubuntu support question?
[17:35] <majoy> no
[17:36] <majoy> sorry,i m try to use this ,may be it for faq
[17:36] <Unhammer> if it matters, this is a Lenovo Ideacentre A740
[17:36] <Tarrew> hey, i have a problem with "apt-get update". its taking several minutes every time :/ i already selected the "best server" in the options. any fix for that?
[17:39] <daftykins> Tarrew: what version are you running? "cat /etc/issue"
[17:39] <Tarrew> daftykins: Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS
[17:40] <daftykins> Tarrew: connection issues? DNS server slow? hard disk failing?
[17:41] <Tarrew> having a stable connection. just everytime i run apt-get update its downloading around 35MB. shouldnt it download that much only the first time? and running it again it should only download like 0.1MB.. atleast thats how i remember it
[17:42] <daftykins> is this a VPS or a home system?
[17:42] <tgm4883> Tarrew: apt-get update gets the list of packages, it doesn't download any packages
[17:42] <tgm4883> although I wouldn't think the lists would be 35MB
[17:42] <daftykins> yeah but it's downloading those package lists, is what Tarrew is saying
[17:42] <ioria> Tarrew, check your sources.list .... do you have ppa ?
[17:42] <OerHeks> If updates are slow, wait a minute and try again?
[17:42] <tgm4883> well yea, it's suppose to download those package lists
[17:43] <Tarrew> probably didnt express clearly. in german it says "Es wurden 34,2 MB in 2 min 1 s geholt". which means like "downloaded 34,2 mb in 2minutes". atleast thats how i would translate it
[17:43] <muh2000> hi all
[17:43] <Tarrew> the thing is i have this issues for days. its rly weird
[17:44] <muh2000> stange thing every once in a while, firefox plays weird voices and i cannot identify the source. closed tabs etc... still playing...
[17:44] <daftykins> yeah it speaks of download even when it actually doesn't
[17:44] <daftykins> Tarrew: it refers to 31.7MB at one stage in the update on mine, but at the end it actually says "Fetched 1,793 kB in 7s (247 kB/s)"
[17:45] <daftykins> so it doesn't actually download 31.7MB.
[17:45] <Tarrew> how long does your update take? i remember it used to be very fast for me. like under 30seconds or sth
[17:45] <daftykins> 10 seconds
[17:46] <tgm4883> Tarrew: can you pastebin the output of one of your update runs?
[17:46] <Tarrew> ah yea i see. rly weird its literally taking 2 minuutes every time
[17:46] <Tarrew> tgm4883: i will
[17:46] <tgm4883> daftykins: I think you mean 7 seconds ;)
[17:46] <daftykins> so is it a VPS, VM or a physical system?
[17:46] <daftykins> tgm4883: that was the download, not the entire process.
[17:46] <daftykins> tut tut!
[17:47] <tgm4883> daftykins: fair point
[17:47] <daftykins> :D
[17:48] <Tarrew> so thats the output:
[17:48] <Tarrew> http://pastebin.com/7gaddcYv
[17:48] <_Kai_> #ubuntutouch
[17:48] <ioria> yes, you have ppa
[17:48] <_Kai_> is it a thing?
[17:49] <daftykins> Tarrew: i think you've got a tonne of PPAs that might be slowing the process down
[17:49] <daftykins> Tarrew: maybe check which you have added and consider removing some if they're no longer necessary
[17:50] <Tarrew> will do that now. probably theres no "reset to default" setting?!
[17:50] <ioria> Tarrew, how many DNS do you have ?
[17:50] <tgm4883> Tarrew: that would be just deleting/moving everything in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[17:52] <Tarrew> @ioria: how can i check it? sorry really not experienced in those things. @tgm4883 will consider doing that. probably easiest thing
[17:52] <ioria> Tarrew, in Network Connection
[17:53] <tgm4883> Tarrew: the problem with doing that is you'll no longer get updates for any software that you installed from there. For instance, Google Chrome
[17:55] <daftykins> yeah you don't want to just nuke them all...
[17:55] <tgm4883> You could just move them out of the folder for testing, but I wouldn't just do that and leave it
[17:55] <Tarrew> there are a few in that folder. 16
[17:55] <Tarrew> not sure if thats unusual ;p
[17:56] <daftykins> they're stored in pairs i think
[17:56] <daftykins> so that might mean 8 PPAs
[17:56] <Tarrew> ah yea i see.
[17:58] <Tarrew> deleted a few. when i run the apt-get update the only thing thats taking forever is fetching the information from extras.ubuntu.com
[17:59] <daftykins> is any other action on this system slower than it should be?
[17:59] <OerHeks> maybe resetting your router solves these mistary delays.
[17:59] <daftykins> typically something IO based?
[17:59] <Tarrew> hmm. using an SSD and the system is super smooth and fast overall
[17:59] <daftykins> definitely sounds DNS or network based then, mm
[18:00] <daftykins> something like that
[18:00] <Tarrew> no matter how often i run the command its literally 2minutes and 1second every time. rly surprising
[18:00] <daftykins> try booting a live session and run an apt-get update on that, see how it compares
[18:00] <Tarrew> will try that, ty
[18:00] <daftykins> that way you don't have to trash your working setup to find out
[18:00] <daftykins> np :>
[18:00] <Tarrew> brb ;)
[18:04] <ioria> !info nm-tool
[18:06] <wafflejock> ioria, believe that's in network-manager, but don't know a ton about it
[18:06] <bekks> !find nm-tool
[18:06] <ioria> wafflejock, no it's dead , now is nmcli dev
[18:06] <bekks> ah :)
[18:06] <bekks> !find nmcli
[18:06] <ioria> :-(
[18:07] <wafflejock> ah
[18:08] <ioria> Tarrew, try nmcli dev show | grep DNS
[18:11] <wafflejock> ioria, gone but just tried here think they need, nmcli d list | grep DNS, nmcli is pretty cool though never seen this one
[18:12] <ioria> Tarrew, neither do i ç_ç
[18:13] <Vespero2> Hey, I broke my keyboard trying to install/edit keyboard layouts. I can access a commandline via recovery mode. Can anyone help me reinstall the layout service or re-download the default us layout?
[18:13] <Retina> hello fellas
[18:13] <Retina> how are you doing
[18:14] <ioria> Vespero2, never done but you can try dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration
[18:15] <Vespero2> dpkg-reconfigure xkb-(something, I forget what) didn't work, but I'll try that
[18:15] <daftykins> Retina: just fine here. support only in this channel and chat in #ubuntu-offtopic though please :)
[18:15] <wafflejock> Vespero2, http://askubuntu.com/questions/342066/how-to-permanently-configure-keyboard it seems to depend in part on your Desktop environment and version though
[18:15] <Retina> :)
[18:15] <Retina> I now it is only support here daftykins
[18:16] <wafflejock> Vespero2, are you using XFCE or the default Unity or something else?
[18:16] <Retina> I just wanted to warm greetings
[18:16] <Retina> I would like to discuss,
[18:16] <Retina> what do you think about Kali linux tools installed on ubuntu 15.04
[18:16] <daftykins> Retina: unsupported is what i would think
[18:16] <Retina> will it create a leak or security flaw in system?
[18:16] <OerHeks> Retina, discussion in #ubuntu-discuss, this is support only
[18:16] <Retina> :) OerHeks
[18:16] <Retina> Tamam.
[18:16] <Retina> I will go there
[18:16] <Retina> thanks
[18:17] <OerHeks> yw
[18:18] <Vespero2> wafflejock, It acted like it was going to work, but when I get to the login screen I lose the keyboard still. I'm using default Unity
[18:19] <Vespero2> wafflejock, Oh, I read that it uses cached keyboard layouts and that editing layout files doesn't update the cache. I'll go clear the cache as soon as I can find out where it is
[18:19] <dionysus69> hey guys I added powertop --auto-tune to /etc/rc.local, how can I check if it really runs at startup ?
[18:23] <Razzdoll> Whats wrong with the terminal in ubuntu? Everytime I try to resize it.. It minimizes to the size of a pencil...
[18:23] <wafflejock> Vespero2, okay yeah just found a bug regarding XFCE think this should work for Unity
[18:23] <daftykins> dionysus69: grep your process list for it?
[18:23] <Vespero2> wafflejock, Nope, deleting cache didn't work
[18:23] <dionysus69> how do I do it daftykins ?
[18:23] <ioria> Vespero2, did you run the dpkg command and then service keyboard-setup restart ?
[18:24] <daftykins> ps -ef | grep power
[18:24] <Vespero2> ioria, yes
[18:26] <daftykins> EriC^^: someone is in need of your EFI boot expertise if you're game?
[18:26] <EriC^^> daftykins: yeah sure
[18:26] <daftykins> cool :)
[18:26] <daftykins> Unhammer: are you still active? EriC^^ can sort you out :>
[18:26] <daftykins> story is: Unhammer installed ubuntu EFI beside windows 8, but only Windows boots
[18:26] <ioria> Vespero2, if the service fails , i found this command : udevadm trigger --subsystem-match=input --action=change and reboot, but don't know exactly what it does
[18:27] <daftykins> in Unhammer's EFI, the physical disk (a seagate SSHD) is selected above Windows Boot Manager, which in turn is above Ubuntu's EFI entry
[18:27] <daftykins> so it seems odd it's not booting
[18:27] <EriC^^> daftykins: oh ok
[18:27] <Vespero2> ioria, I don't know that the service is failing, just that the layout file it's looking for is damaged
[18:28] <ioria> Vespero2, /etc/default/keyboard, you mean ?
[18:29] <Vespero2> ioria, no, /usr/share/xkb/symbol/us
[18:29] <Razzdoll> Does anyone know this problem?
[18:30] <Unhammer> daftykins, hey
[18:30] <EriC^^> Unhammer: hi
[18:30] <drmagoo> Hi, can someone here confirm if the nvidia-346 driver is a part of the official repos in 15.04 ?
[18:30] <dionysus69> daftykins: it lists upowerd and auto power
[18:31] <EriC^^> Unhammer: are you in a live usb right now?
[18:31] <daftykins> !info nvidia-346
[18:31] <daftykins> drmagoo: yes.
[18:31] <dionysus69> should /etc/rc.local entries get executed at startup generally?
[18:31] <Unhammer> EriC^^, I can be :)
[18:31] <Unhammer> 'sec'
[18:31] <EriC^^> ok
[18:31] <drmagoo> daftykins: thank you very much
[18:32] <daftykins> dionysus69: ah silly me, so powertop is more just running once than running as a daemon - so my approach was of no use
[18:32] <daftykins> drmagoo: i think there's newer though, just run "sudo apt-get update && apt-cache search nvidia-" to see all available
[18:33] <Unhammer> bah getting into that UEFI boot menu takes forever since I have to do it from within windows
[18:33] <daftykins> well you don't
[18:33] <daftykins> but that is one method :P
[18:33] <Unhammer> i don't know the secret keyshake for lenovo …
[18:33] <drmagoo> daftykins: I'm still on 14.04, having some issues with my gtx960-card.. Have the same problem with nvidias own, as with the drivers from xorg-edgers and mamarley... so i am thinking about upgrading
[18:33] <daftykins> F12.
[18:33] <Unhammer> or, for ideacentres
[18:33] <daftykins> lol
[18:34] <Unhammer> huh, that 1tb+8gb entry is gone now btw
[18:34] <daftykins> drmagoo: no reason a 960 wouldn't work on 14.04, sounds like you've messed up your setup somehow. are you booted into it right now?
[18:35] <daftykins> drmagoo: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && dpkg -l | grep nvidia | pastebinit
[18:35] <Unhammer> ok, in live disk now (created by 7x x xubuntu.iso /media/… && parted set 1 boot on, so I'd be sure it's uefi-only)
[18:35] <dionysus69> daftykins: so any ideas how to detect if its running or not?
[18:36] <EriC^^> Unhammer: ok, i'll brb in a sec
[18:36] <daftykins> dionysus69: no
[18:36] <drmagoo> daftykins: Im on it right now... will do
[18:36] <daftykins> dionysus69: why don't you add a line to rc.local after you have it run powertop, then have it echo some text into a file... then you'll have proof
[18:37] <dionysus69> daftykins: there is a thing about it though, powertop needs sudo permission while echo doesnt so :\ i might leak something by that test
[18:37] <drmagoo> daftykins:
[18:37] <daftykins> ...
[18:37] <Promille> Hey guys. Are there any good to-do programs in the repos in ubuntu. Should make it easy to add new task, and check them when its done.
[18:37] <EriC^^> Unhammer: ok, type sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[18:37] <EriC^^> Unhammer: then sudo parted -l | pastebinit
[18:37] <drmagoo> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11571022/ sorry ;)
[18:38] <Vespero2> I regularly switch between two keyboards, but switching to the other (non-US) doesn't work
[18:38] <daftykins> drmagoo: right so this shows 349 is on, is this not working?
[18:38] <Vespero2> On-Screen keyboard says no keyboard found
[18:39] <Mia> Hey all
[18:39] <daftykins> hi
[18:39] <Mia> I'm trying to install ubuntu on a 4 year old laptop
[18:39] <daftykins> ok?
[18:39] <Mia> I did the usb stick installation thing on the website
[18:39] <daftykins> which version and what's wrong?
[18:39] <Mia> all I get is "no bios bp data"
[18:40] <daftykins> when? where?
[18:40] <Mia> the 14.2 stable version
[18:40] <Vespero2> should I reinstall xorg?
[18:40] <Mia> the recommended download on the website
[18:40] <Mia> Well the usb stick boots up
[18:40] <daftykins> 14.04.2 LTS you mean?
[18:40] <Unhammer> arghs wheres the pipe on this thing
[18:40] <Mia> I see "try ubuntu " "install ubuntu" etc
[18:40] <daftykins> 'stable' is not appropriate as all ubuntu releases are stable
[18:40] <Mia> but I cna't do "enter" for any of those
[18:40] <Mia> then I see a white screen
[18:40] <Mia> then it says "no bios bp data"
[18:40] <daftykins> !nomodeset | Mia try this
[18:40] <Mia> then waits for a bit and goes to ubuntu loading screen
[18:40] <daftykins> Mia: also tell us what system this is
[18:41] <Unhammer> EriC^^, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11571096/
[18:41] <Mia> daftykins, Unhammer but it loads the ubuntu loading screen
[18:41] <Mia> the purple one with dots
[18:41] <drmagoo> daftykins: yes and no. When I wake the monitors (dual-head same make and model) up, all applications on the right monitor are "hidden" in the background, the refresh rate on the right monitor is set down to 30 hz. And lastly every now and then Xorg crashes when I try to log back in.
[18:41] <Mia> and it sems like it's loading something
[18:42] <Mia> but it never ends
[18:42] <Mia> just waits and waits more
[18:42] <Mia> for like 4 hours I waited
[18:42] <Mia> I think it's mroe than enough
[18:42] <drmagoo> daftykins: and that all started when I installed this graphicscard
[18:42] <daftykins> Mia: yep so try nomodeset as suggested above and tell me the system make + mode
[18:42] <daftykins> *model
[18:42] <Mia> daftykins, sure I'm checking the page right now how d I set the parameter
[18:42] <daftykins> F6 on the flash drive boot menu
[18:43] <EriC^^> Unhammer: type sudo efibootmgr -v | pastebinit
[18:43] <Mia> thanks
[18:43] <Mia> twsting
[18:44] <daftykins> drmagoo: sounds like a mess, so you have three choices: 1) remove all the messy PPAs you might have added, revert to stock packages then purge nvidia* and then clean install a supported official repo version. 2) clean install 14.04. 3) clean install 15.04
[18:44] <Mia> it said callibration failed
[18:44] <Mia> and it said "no bios bp data" again
[18:44] <Mia> daftykins,
[18:44] <Mia> f6 didn't do anything though, should I see something popping up instantly
[18:44] <mbs_> who do i talk to about a package being out of date?
[18:45] <Unhammer> EriC^^, command not found, what's the package for efibootmgr?
[18:45] <Mia> I mean I can also not make a pick out of the flash drive's menu
[18:45] <daftykins> Mia: i get absolutely nothing on google from "no bios bp data" so are you sure that's what it says?
[18:45] <EriC^^> Unhammer: efibootmgr
[18:45] <Mia> yes
[18:45] <Mia> exactly that
[18:45] <Unhammer> doh
[18:45] <daftykins> Mia: so i must for the third time ask what make and model of system this is
[18:45] <ioria> Vespero2, if your /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/us is broken you ca copy this in it and reconfigure : http://paste.ubuntu.com/11571127/
[18:45] <Mia> "no bios dp data"
[18:45] <Mia> not bp
[18:45] <daftykins> oh DP
[18:45] <daftykins> right :P
[18:45] <Mia> haha
[18:45] <Mia> I misread (and possibly mistyped?)
[18:45] <Unhammer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11571128/
[18:45] <Mia> does it make a difference now?
[18:46] <Mia> daftykins, the computer is asus aspire 6935
[18:46] <daftykins> Mia: yes, and nomodeset still applies, you did press F6... cursor up to nomodeset and enable it before selecting 'try ubuntu' yes?
[18:46] <Mia> cursor?
[18:46] <Mia> there is no cursor
[18:46] <daftykins> cursor keys are the arrows on your keyboard
[18:46] <Mia> and f6 does nothing really
[18:46] <EriC^^> Unhammer: did you install ubuntu after windows?
[18:46] <Mia> yeah they don't do much either
[18:46] <Unhammer> EriC^^, yes
[18:46] <Mia> I try enter as well
[18:47] <daftykins> Mia: ok carry on reading my earlier link until you can get nomodeset enabled then please :)
[18:47] <Mia> it just waits then timeouts I guess
[18:47] <Mia> and auto makes a pick
[18:47] <EriC^^> Unhammer: ok, we might need to switch the efi files to trick the bios, cause it seems hardwired to boot the windows efi
[18:47] <Mia> daftykins, I can't do f6, any other alternative?
[18:47] <daftykins> Mia: read the link like i said please.
[18:47] <Vespero2> ioria, I'll try that, but even switching to a German layout isn't working right now
[18:47] <EriC^^> Unhammer: type sudo mount /dev/sda6 /mnt
[18:47] <Unhammer> fun
[18:48] <Unhammer> I have no sda6 .
[18:48] <Unhammer> weird
[18:48] <Unhammer> oh no pebkac
[18:48] <EriC^^> ?
[18:48] <Unhammer> sorry, nevermind, it's mounted
[18:48] <EriC^^> ok, type sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/boot/efi
[18:49] <drmagoo> daftykins: I will try to purge them once again and see if I have more luck with the old drivers. thank you
[18:49] <daftykins> drmagoo: you'd have to remove xorg-edgers and any other PPA prior to trying again, of course
[18:49] <shudon> hi all :) i am using Remote Desktop Viewer to connect to a VNC server, but the password field only allows me to enter 8 characters!
[18:49] <daftykins> !ppapurge
[18:49] <Mia> daftykins, it goes to automatic boot I guess
[18:49] <Mia> I mean
[18:49] <Mia> it's not doing anything when I press any key
[18:49] <Mia> so I'm not usre if "e" works or not
[18:49] <Unhammer> alright …
[18:49] <Mia> as well as entering
[18:50] <EriC^^> Unhammer: for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[18:50] <Mia> left right keys work to navigate the menu but I can't make a pick
[18:50] <EriC^^> Unhammer: type the whole line
[18:50] <Mia> and f6 does not make a difference
[18:50] <daftykins> Mia: there is one sure fire way to find out if pressing 'e' on try ubuntu will work... that's to try it ;)
[18:50] <Mia> as well as pressing "e" to edit the item
[18:50] <voodooo> hi all
[18:50] <Mia> I did
[18:50] <Mia> it does not work
[18:50] <Mia> daftykins
[18:50] <daftykins> ...
[18:50] <Mia> it does nothing
[18:50] <Mia> I don't see anything popping up
[18:50] <Mia> or changing
[18:50] <Mia> Nothing at all
[18:51] <daftykins> can you even cursor up and down? (arrow keys)
[18:51] <Mia> no
[18:51] <Mia> just left right
[18:51] <Mia> that does the up down thing
[18:51] <Mia> up down does not do anything
[18:51] <Unhammer> EriC^^, done
[18:51] <Unhammer> I have /mnt/proc etc
[18:51] <daftykins> oy vey
[18:51] <EriC^^> Unhammer: ok, type sudo chroot /mnt
[18:51] <daftykins> Mia: what kind of computer and OS did you make this flash drive up from?
[18:52] <Mia> windows stopped working
[18:52] <Mia> it had windows 7 installed
[18:52] <Unhammer> done
[18:52] <Unhammer> … so we just fake-booted into that. nice.
[18:52] <Mia> and the comuter is asus aspire 6935
[18:52] <Mia> 4gb ram
[18:52] <Mia> not TOO old
[18:52] <Mia> just like 4 years old
[18:52] <daftykins> Mia: can you please stop pressing enter so much and reply in full sentences on *one* line?
[18:53] <Mia> sure, sorry -
[18:53] <EriC^^> Unhammer: yeah, type cp /boot/efi/EFI/Boot/bootx64.efi{,.backup}
[18:53] <daftykins> Mia: i asked which OS and computer you prepared the USB flash drive boot from?
[18:53] <Mia> I'm kind of annoyed right now and I feel clueless about what I'm doing, so I guess I get excited when I get replies :)
[18:53] <daftykins> alright well stop that.
[18:53] <Mia> Oh, I prepared it in windows with the universal usb installer thing
[18:53] <Unhammer> EriC^^, copied :)
[18:53] <Mia> followerd the steps on the website daftykins
[18:53] <EriC^^> Unhammer: type cp /boot/efi/EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi{,.backup}
[18:54] <daftykins> Mia: on a different computer?
[18:54] <Mia> daftykins, yes,
[18:54] <Mia> should I make it on the same one?!
[18:54] <daftykins> Mia: ok test boot that flash drive in that other computer to make sure it's ok
[18:54] <daftykins> well you said 7 doesn't work so surely it has no working OS to use? :P
[18:55] <Mia> daftykins, yes the one I'm trying to install does not have an os installed right now
[18:55] <Mia> when I boot it up I just see a letter, "Y" I have no idea what it is
[18:55] <Unhammer> EriC^^, done
[18:55] <Mia> anyway I was wanting to install ubuntu to that, so yeah this is my chance
[18:55] <Mia> I prepaed the usb stick on another machine though
[18:56] <daftykins> Mia: yes so plug the flash drive into the computer you prepared the drive with... and TEST boot it there
[18:56] <daftykins> this will rule out there being a problem with the drive
[18:56] <Mia> daftykins, okay doing it now
[18:56] <EriC^^> Unhammer: type cp /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu/grubx64.efi /boot/efi/EFI/Boot/bootx64.efi
[18:57] <Unhammer> done
[18:58] <EriC^^> Unhammer: ok, type cp /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu/grubx64.efi /boot/efi/EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi
[18:58] <Unhammer> done
[18:58] <EriC^^> Unhammer: ok, type cp /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu/grubx64.efi /boot/efi/EFI/Microsoft/Boot/grubx64.efi
[18:59] <drmagoo> daftykins: I've purge the ppa's, but now when I check the repos there is only 304-331 drivers there. No 346 or newer
[18:59] <Vespero2> Purging and reinstalling xserver-xorg worked
[18:59] <Unhammer> done
[18:59] <Vespero2> thanks for your help, guys
[18:59] <Unhammer> (though that was a bit confusing)
[18:59] <EriC^^> Unhammer: type sudo nano /usr/lib/os-probes/mounted/efi/20microsoft , then replace bootmgfw.efi with bootmgfw.efi.backup
[19:00] <daftykins> drmagoo: yeah so it's back to normal, make sure you have any other cruft cleaned out - all nvidia* purged and do a dist-upgrade to ensure you're fully up to date and set
[19:00] <EriC^^> Unhammer: it sometimes whines about not finding grubx64.efi there
[19:00] <Mia> daftykins, yes it loaded fine on the other machine
[19:00] <Mia> :/
[19:01] <daftykins> Mia: right so the drive is good, that makes life easier
[19:01] <ioria> Vespero2, np
[19:01] <Mia> daftykins, hmmm what are my options now
[19:01] <Unhammer> alright, nano'd
[19:02] <EriC^^> Unhammer: ok, type update-grub
[19:02] <Unhammer> still from within the chroot, right?
[19:02] <EriC^^> yeah
[19:02] <daftykins> Mia: so acer aspire 6935 huh
[19:02] <Mia> yes
[19:02] <dgs> i'm having some network/DNS issues with a machine. I can't resolve anything - not even entries explicitly added to the /etc/hosts file. (see http://pastie.org/10223843 ). I can ping out via IP address, but cannot ping/resolve anything by name. There are 3 name servers specified in /etc/hosts - all of which are reachable via ping and are working for other hosts on the network. Hosts set up in /etc/hosts can't be resolved - if I add a site to /etc/h
[19:02] <dgs> I still can't ping it by name, but pinging it by ip works fine...
[19:02] <Mia> :)
[19:02] <daftykins> Mia: what happened to the Windows 7 install? suddenly didn't boot anymore one day?
[19:03] <Tarrew> ok im back. took a lil bit longer. had this problem problem with the apt-get update. Booted from usb stick and cant update at all there. it stops at 83% fetching data from "archive.ubuntu.com"
[19:03] <Unhammer> EriC^^, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11571596/
[19:03] <Mia> daftykins, yes, well windows behaved like it's trying to load
[19:03] <drmagoo> daftykins: I'm sorry for this really stupid question: but which driver shall I choose?
[19:03] <EriC^^> Unhammer: great, type exit
[19:04] <Mia> the neverending "waiting" circle, so I needed to restart
[19:04] <EriC^^> Unhammer: then reboot and see if it works, if it doesn't make sure secureboot is turned off
[19:04] <knocktwice> dgs: do 'nslookup' or 'dig' give any helpful hints? You could use 'tcpdump' to see who it's asking for dns, or if at all.
[19:04] <Mia> I powered off, and powered on and it was this vlack screen with Y letter on it
[19:04] <Mia> I thought it's one of those windows crashes really
[19:04] <Mia> daftykins, anything else specific you want to know? :)
[19:05] <dgs> knocktwice: unfortunately not installed, and until I sort out network issues, I can't install them =/
[19:05] <Unhammer> alright
[19:05] <daftykins> Mia: is this the machine? http://www.amazon.co.uk/Acer-Aspire-16-inch-Laptop-Premium/dp/B001HK214A
[19:06] <Mia> yes daftykins not the "G" model though
[19:06] <Mia> I'm not sure what the G stands for, mine does not have the G
[19:06] <Mia> but the same look, yes.
[19:07] <daftykins> Mia: ok. i suspect your hard disk might have an issue, so if it were me... i would remove it
[19:07] <Mia> daftykins, normally does the boot (from flash) works without the HD?
[19:07] <Mia> The HD was switched recently yes, so it might have an issue
[19:07] <Unhammer> ooh grub!
[19:07] <Jordan_U> Unhammer: Be sure to write those instructions down, as you will need to re-run those cp commands any time Windows re-writes its efi images, and you will need to re-edit /usr/lib/os-probes/mounted/efi/20microsoft any time the os-prober package is upgraded.
[19:08] <daftykins> Mia: it was? why was it swapped?
[19:08] <Unhammer> already did :) thank you so much EriC^^ daftykins Jordan_U
[19:08] <daftykins> Unhammer: np
[19:08] <Mia> daftykins, well it's not my pc, it was my boyfirends'
[19:09] <Mia> he switched it because it was totally dead, some guy did it
[19:09] <EriC^^> Unhammer: np
[19:09] <Mia> My bf is not really into computers hehe
[19:09] <Mia> I don't know what the EXACT problem was
[19:09] <EriC^^> Unhammer: did you try booting into windows?
[19:09] <daftykins> Mia: ok
[19:09] <Unhammer> EriC^^, not yet, not sure I want to take my chances until I'm desperate for a firmware update =P
[19:10] <Unhammer> (which is the only reason I'm keeping windows around)
[19:10] <Unhammer> should it be "safe" to try windows?
[19:10] <EriC^^> yeah, most likely
[19:10] <daftykins> Unhammer: for what it's worth i had a cheap Lenovo system in here recently, i updated the EFI for fun... resized Windows 8's C:... booted an ubuntu flash drive and installed it beside just perfectly.
[19:10] <Unhammer> alright, I'll give it a go :)
[19:10] <daftykins> no issues
[19:10] <Unhammer> daftykins, cheap as in non-thinkpad?
[19:11] <Unhammer> I was sort of afraid I'd have issues since this model is fairly new
[19:11] <Unhammer> and non-think
[19:11] <daftykins> it was a B50-70
[19:11] <daftykins> which is part of the essential business line iirc
[19:15] <Unhammer> um btw, which of the three windows entries is it?
[19:16] <Unhammer> Windows UEFI bootmgfw.efi
[19:16] <Unhammer> Windows Boot UEFI loader
[19:16] <Unhammer> Windows Boot Manager (on /dev/sda2)
[19:17] <Unhammer> ok, second one; first one is our fake :)
[19:18] <Unhammer> so windows boots
[19:18] <EriC^^> ok, great, restart from windows and see if you still get grub
[19:20] <dreamcat4^> hello! i've got a question about i386 architecture: does ubuntu have any plans to drop support for it in the future? if yes, how many more years?
[19:20] <Unhammer> works =D
[19:20] <EriC^^> Unhammer: did you disable the fast startup in windows by the way?
[19:20] <daftykins> no idea, but there's less and less reason to install 32-bit OSs here in 2015, dreamcat4^
[19:20] <EriC^^> Unhammer: cool
[19:20] <Unhammer> EriC^^, yeah, first thing I did
[19:20] <Unhammer> before installing
[19:21] <daftykins> i didn't have to do any of that to get a dualboot going :)
[19:21] <Unhammer> not sure about the quickboot thing in bios
[19:21] <acz32> many servers are i386
[19:21] <Unhammer> that's what I get for trying to install on a new system I guess :-/
[19:21] <rakib> life
[19:21] <rakib> whats up everybody
[19:22] <pbx> running unity on 14.04, is there an equivalent to "hide others" on os x?
[19:23] <daftykins> Unhammer: well no the one i got was brand new. but as mentioned i updated the EFI first thing
[19:23] <daftykins> because they're always so, so buggy
[19:23] <drmagoo> daftykins: sorry that I'm a pain, but do you have any suggestion on which driver to install and use?
[19:23] <Unhammer> I didn't find any firmware updates on lenovo.com for my chipset at all
[19:23] <daftykins> drmagoo: all dist-upgrade'd fine now huh?
[19:23] <daftykins> Unhammer: BIOS update, not chipset
[19:23] <dreamcat4^> daftykins: yeah, it's a question whether i need to make i386 packages (for tvheadend project). currently we only make 64-bit ones but some user still on 32-bit OS.
[19:24] <daftykins> that's not what chipset means ;)
[19:24] <Unhammer> daftykins, the bios update said it was for broadsomething, not haswell
[19:24] <poorUser> Hi people since 15.04 i need to reboot the router(s) in order to have ipv4 address, i get only ipv6 and i'm totally disconnected from the the net. Does anyone have this problem or knows a solution?
[19:24] <Unhammer> it did say bios though. but I'm not a hardware person so have no clue
[19:24] <daftykins> Unhammer: doesn't sound like you found the correct page for your model
[19:24] * dreamcat4^ was kindda hoping ubuntu would stop officially supporting i386 as soon as 2 years from now (or next LTS release)
[19:24] <drmagoo> daftykins: yes =) I'm pretty sure I've gotten everything back to what it was before, except for the driver
[19:24] <netlar> I installed Wine, but how do I actually run windows programs from it
[19:25] <daftykins> drmagoo: alright, and you're able to boot to desktop fine right now? which driver is in use?
[19:25] <daftykins> !wine | netlar
[19:25] <Unhammer> anyway, this leads me to my next problem, hehe: whenever I do a shutdown from ubuntu (live session/installing/installed ubuntu), it crashes hard (and the screen gets these funny multicolored lines like the weird side of youtube)
[19:26] <Unhammer> sysrq elephants didn't have any effect, and I did try echo 1 to /proc/sys/kernel/sysrq
[19:26] <Unhammer> and I just apt-get upgraded
[19:26] <daftykins> elephants o0 as in reisub?
[19:26] <Unhammer> that one
[19:26] <drmagoo> daftykins: not rebooted yet, since there is no display driver installed except nouveau
[19:26] <al8989> hello i have a question i have usb wireless network stick based off the realtek RTL8187Bchipset and it works with my ubuntu 14.04 installation, but it radomly disconnects and i have to keep reconnecting to my wireless network which is annoying is there any solution?
[19:26] <Unhammer> uh I always recite it in my head …
[19:27] <Unhammer> so I have to hold the power button to shutdown :/
[19:28] <Unhammer> I can't see it being related to the EFI thing (unless something should've been done after it said "everything's installed, click to restart")
[19:28] <daftykins> drmagoo: ok yeah so you'd only be able to boot with nomodeset right now huh? i think it'd be wise to reboot anyway since all the recent changes
[19:28] <daftykins> drmagoo: also a sudo apt-get autoremove ; to remove any old kernels lurking around
[19:30] <drmagoo> daftykins: all that has been done... But which driver shall I choose after the reboot.. Since its the same computer that I use for irssi, if you have an idea so that I know what to do next if i dont get it backup all the way
[19:31] <daftykins> drmagoo: well as i say you'll need to boot in with nomodeset passed as a kernel param first to ensure everything is still good
[19:31] <daftykins> drivers come later (:
[19:32] <daftykins> drmagoo: i'd like to see a clean boot /var/log/Xorg.0.log before continuing
[19:33] <drmagoo> daftykins: ok... will hopefully be back in a while
[19:45] <blondie101010> does anyone know where to get the build script used by the distribution, I'm mostly looking for the apache build script... I was told how to get the source code for it with `apt-get source apache2` but that doesn't seem to include the build script
[19:46] <jzvi12> is anybody sharing a library with useful shell/bash scripts?
[19:47] <drmagoo> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11572298/
[19:48] <wendico> hello, anybody has experienced genymotion on ubuntu?
[19:48] <daftykins> drmagoo: hrmm what's with 'nomdmonddf' and 'nomdmonisw' ?
[19:48] <al8989> hello i have a question. i have usb wireless network adapter based off the realtek RTL8187B chipset and it works with my ubuntu 14.04 installation, but it radomly disconnects and i have to keep reconnecting to my wireless network which is annoying is there any solutionto stop the wireless adapter from randomly disconnecting?
[19:48] <daftykins> RAID related? 0o
[19:48] <blondie101010> jzvi12: without exaggeration there are millions, what are you really looking for?
[19:48] <Pici> jzvi12: If you are looking for something in particular the folks in #bash might be able to point you in the right direction.
[19:49] <wendico> how can i have android with google apps in ubuntu?
[19:49] <drmagoo> daftykins: might be, are running a few mdm-raids on this machine... Status right now is that I get the login-prompt, but cant login...
[19:50] <daftykins> drmagoo: as in the GUI one? so you shared this from a TTY?
[19:50] <Delta706> In unity, is there a way to have a script run at logout time, before it starts closing windows?
[19:51] <drmagoo> daftykins: I'm on my tablet now, running putty... havent tried to reach a shell yet
[19:51] <daftykins> drmagoo: ah ok. so i'd add xorg-edgers back in, apt-get update and pick anything v340+
[19:52] <drmagoo> daftykins: ok, i'll try that now then
[19:54] <drmagoo> daftykins: xorg-edgers or mamarley ? does it matter which one I choose
[19:55] <daftykins> drmagoo: i've never heard of mamarley so i'd stick to what i know works for people
[19:55] <daftykins> was this 14.04.2 ? i forget already
[19:55] <jzvi12> =)
[19:55] <drmagoo> daftykins: ok =)
[19:55] <drmagoo> daftykins: yes
[19:55] <daftykins> i could've just re-read your xorg log of course
[19:55] <jzvi12> has anyone tried simonics google voice free gateway? if so, opinions?
[19:55] <daftykins> drmagoo: make sure there is no xorg.conf present in your /etc/X11 as well - if so rename it
[20:03] <drmagoo> daftykins: I cheated and did a modprobe of the kernel driver and just restarted xorg...looks ok now, will reboot it and see if the problem occues again. Thank you very much for the help!
[20:04] <daftykins> drmagoo: no problem, hope it behaves better for you :)
[20:05] <drmagoo> daftykins: will be back here in 5 mins begging for your help if it doesnt ;)
[20:05] <daftykins> haha
[20:07] <Sheraf> Hi, is there an option to tell an usb stick to "don't look for the hard drive"?
[20:08] <Sheraf> because my hard drive is dead and it just take forever to boot the live env, because of thousands of I/O error
[20:08] <pbx> Sheraf, that's something you configure in UEFI/BIOS
[20:08] <onr> what does that even mean, Sheraf
[20:09] <jzvi12> whats your opinion on this: https://www.crowdsupply.com/inverse-path/usb-armory#products-top
[20:09] <Sheraf> pbx: i can't find any related option in the BIOS
[20:09] <daftykins> Sheraf: unplug it?
[20:10] <Sheraf> daftykins: right... it's a netbook and not even mine, i don't really want to open it
[20:10] <Sheraf> just gonna end up breaking it
[20:10] <Sheraf> there is no direct access to the hard drive
[20:11] <daftykins> Sheraf: what is the goal then?
[20:11] <daftykins> what is your intention with this device?
[20:11] <Sheraf> us an usb stick or sd card as new hard drive
[20:11] <daftykins> then no, either remove it physically (after gaining permission) or enter the BIOS and try disabling it (unlikely to work)
[20:12] <Sheraf> the problem is when it's booting it's looking for hard drive, and that raise thousands of I/O error, i waited 30 minutes and it still didn't finish booting, just printing error in the tty
[20:12] <Gaming4JC> Hi guys. Anyone know a decent "diff" GUI. Preferably a text-editor with built-in diff for an easier workflow on patching.
[20:12] <daftykins> and they definitely referred to sda?
[20:12] <EriC^^> Sheraf: if it's using uefi you might be able to press esc and go to boot options and select usb uefi to boot it
[20:13] <daftykins> some old netbook would likely not be EFI
[20:13] <Sheraf> it's an old netbook, just has a phoenix bios
[20:13] <EriC^^> Sheraf: you should be able to select the boot order in the bios then
[20:14] <Sheraf> EriC^^: yeah, but still, when booting on the live usb, ubuntu is trying to check for hard drive, and that raise a bunch of error
[20:14] <EriC^^> oh
[20:14] <EriC^^> you can try passing a kernel parameter to ignore it or something, i don't remember it exactly though
[20:15] <Sheraf> that's what i'm looking for
[20:15] <Sheraf> an option at boot
[20:15] <drdanmaku> hi, my computer shut down during an invocation of apt-get and now any attempt to install packages gives me "dpkg: error: fgets gave an empty string from `/var/lib/dpkg/triggers/File'", is there some way to repair this file?
[20:15] <EriC^^> Sheraf: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/102648/how-to-tell-linux-kernel-3-0-to-completely-ignore-a-failing-disk
[20:15] <Sheraf> drdanmaku: try apt-get install -f ?
[20:16] <drdanmaku> Sheraf: that didn't seem to do anything, i still get that message
[20:17] <EriC^^> drdanmaku: type sudo nano /var/lib/dpkg/triggers/File
[20:17] <daftykins> Sheraf: still makes infinitely more sense to remove a faulty component.
[20:17] <EriC^^> and look for a line that's empty
[20:17] <drdanmaku> EriC^^: the file appears to be garbage, http://hastebin.com/cesequcexa.mel
[20:18] <jzvi12> sharing a goodie: https://www.crowdsupply.com/inverse-path/usb-armory#products-top
[20:18] <drdanmaku> from what i'm reading, packages install triggers to do things when events occur, is there some way to scan the installed packages and regenerate the triggers?
[20:18] <Sheraf> daftykins: i know thanks.. i'm not gonna risk to break the plastic, not mine.
[20:19] <daftykins> Sheraf: so ask, or give this task to someone more capable (with my respect)
[20:19] <dionysus69> hey guys, whats up with viber icon in ubuntu 15.04, no method works with it that I could find on google
[20:19] <dionysus69> can anyone suggest anything? its stuck in top left corner
[20:20] <daftykins> 'viber icon' - what does that mean? describe in full :)
[20:20] <Jordan_U> Sheraf: What is the exact kernel parameter you added and how? Please pastebin at least one of the error messages you're getting in dmesg.
[20:21] <drdanmaku> okay, i've just moved the /var/lib/dpkg/triggers/File somewhere else and created an empty one, but this seems like it's obviously going to cause problems later
[20:21] <dionysus69> daftykins: viber notification icon :)
[20:21] <dionysus69> it is supposed to be lets say next to wifi battery icons in indicator menu
[20:21] <daftykins> dionysus69: looks like a non-Linux program, so no idea
[20:21] <daftykins> if you're using wine, ask them
[20:22] <dionysus69> ye it is a non linux program, it might be using wine itself but I am not running it on wine it has debian executable
[20:22] <Sheraf> Jordan_U: i didn't add any kernel parameter, i don't have dmesg as i can't even boot, it's priting 100's of error per second i can't really tell what it says, but i know what a dead hard drive looks like
[20:22] <daftykins> dionysus69: 'debian executable' ?
[20:22] <daftykins> mmk
[20:22] <Sheraf> ata1.00 failed something ... (device error)
[20:23] <dionysus69> deb file i meant
[20:23] <Sheraf> ata1.00 error {ABRT}
[20:23] <Sheraf> things like that
[20:23] <daftykins> dionysus69: so a package, that doesn't really exclude wine usage
[20:23] <Sheraf> EriC^^: so i guess i would have to patch the kernel
[20:24] <dionysus69> daftykins: ye there is a chance it uses wine
[20:24] <Jordan_U> Sheraf: Ahh, so you haven't tried http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/102648/how-to-tell-linux-kernel-3-0-to-completely-ignore-a-failing-disk yet.
[20:24] <wendico> anyone using genymotion can pm me?
[20:24] <daftykins> dionysus69: check? :)
[20:24] <Jordan_U> Sheraf: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[20:24] <EriC^^> Sheraf: why don't you install ubuntu to a usb, as usual
[20:24] <dionysus69> there has been problem about its indicator icon before but it has been solved with several methods over different versions, i guess none work for this version
[20:24] <EriC^^> Sheraf: instead of a live usb or live usb with persistence
[20:24] <daftykins> EriC^^: i think any method is gonna sit there and try to probe the drives and fail miserably
[20:24] <dionysus69> daftykins: even if it uses wine how does that information help me solve the problem? :)
[20:25] <EriC^^> daftykins: i think he got it to work, but wants to patch the kernel or something
[20:25] <daftykins> dionysus69: it would lead you to consulting the wine folks on this issue which would be more relevant since it's not an ubuntu issue
[20:25] <daftykins> EriC^^: ah i see
[20:25] <daftykins> so basically a bunch of unnecessary work instead of just pulling the dead drive in the first place
[20:25] <daftykins> good times :)
[20:26] <EriC^^> yeah, that'd be best but he said it's his friend's, up to him i guess
[20:26] <dionysus69> oh well ok thanks anyway :)
[20:26] <Sheraf> i tried the libata.force=2.00:disable
[20:27] <Sheraf> didn't work
[20:27] <Sheraf> its still checking for hard drive
[20:27] <Sheraf> 1.00*
[20:27] <EriC^^> i think you have to get the numbers right
[20:28] <Jordan_U> Sheraf: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[20:29] <Sheraf> nevermind, it's working
[20:32] <adrian_1908> hello, I just installed apache2 (for offline development only) and I need some help. I want to enable directory listings ("Option Indexes" I think?) but so far haven't been able to. Is someone well verse in this?
[20:33] <onr> adrian_1908: try #httpd
[20:33] <wastrel> it's probably a config option
[20:33] <adrian_1908> onr: I tried, no response so far.
[20:34] <geri_> hi does someone use ubuntu in virtual box??
[20:34] <bekks> geri_: People do.
[20:34] <pavlos> adrian_1908, https://wiki.apache.org/httpd/DirectoryListings
[20:34] <Vespero> Hey, I had to purge and reinstall xserver-xorg earlier today and now I can't change my resolution or monitor setup
[20:34] <geri_> bekks: you again :)
[20:34] <bekks> geri_: Yeah. Different channel, same answer :P
[20:35] <onr> adrian_1908: PM Humbedooh
[20:35] <onr> he's a nice guy :P
[20:35] <adrian_1908> onr: Hehe ok, i'll try. thanks :)
[20:35] <onr> no problem
[20:36] <geri_> bekks: you dont use 3d in ubuntu linux... hm
[20:36] <adrian_1908> pavlos: I've gotten that far, but the issue remains. I'm just too new to this to figure out what the source of the error might be.
[20:36] <Vespero> Anyone have any experience with reinstalling xserver-xorg?
[20:36] <pavlos> adrian_1908, do you restart httpd after changes?
[20:36] <bekks> geri_: I do. But 3D in vbox doesnt magically make an emulated graphics device being a hardware device.
[20:36] <adrian_1908> pavlos: yes.
[20:37] <Vespero> hitting "detect displays" doesn't do anything
[20:37] <geri_> bekks: i understand
[20:37] <bekks> geri_: As you can see, same answer in a different channel.
[20:37] <adrian_1908> pavlos: I have a space in my directory though; i enclose the directory in " "
[20:38] <EriC^^> Vespero: try reinstalling xorg
[20:38] <pavlos> adrian_1908, you may have to escape it ... dont have httpd to test
[20:38] <Vespero> Eric^^ that's what caused the problem
[20:38] <adrian_1908> pavlos: I don't need to add anything but Options Indexes to the directory I modify, right? I mean, that would suffice to override the options for that directory?
[20:38] <EriC^^> Vespero: did you do an autoremove after puring xserver-xorg?
[20:38] <drmagoo> daftykins: Hey, everything seems to work. Only problem that remains is that it resets the refresh rate to 30hz, but is easy to fix each time. But it seems to be very stable now.Thank you again
[20:38] <EriC^^> *purging
[20:39] <pavlos> adrian_1908, not sure about ehat persm that dir should have ... I suspect +x so it can take a look in there
[20:40] <EriC^^> Vespero: it might be that some packages are missing, maybe check the logs and see what was removed
[20:40] <adrian_1908> pavlos: good point
[20:40] <Vespero> Eric^^ no, just apt-get autoremove --purge
[20:40] <Vespero> Eric^^ it fixed the problem I was having with my keyboard, though
[20:40] <EriC^^> Vespero: yeah that would cause the problem
[20:41] <EriC^^> Vespero: don't use autoremove in this case, as it would remove other packages that used to depend on xorg
[20:41] <EriC^^> check the logs and see what was removed and reinstall them
[20:41] <Vespero> EriC^^ where would I find said logs?
[20:41] <EriC^^> /var/log/apt/history.log
[20:43] <adrian_1908> pavlos: ls -l myDir gives "drwxrwxrwx" so that should be ok, right?
[20:43] <Vespero> EriC^^ thanks, I'll check it out
[20:44] <EriC^^> Vespero: ok, np
[20:44] <Humbedooh> onr: that's...cute
[20:44] * onr hugs Humbedooh
[20:45] * Humbedooh doesn't generally engage in physical contact with 13 year olds...
[20:45] <lotuspsychje> keep it ontopic guys
[20:45] <ultragamecard> hey guys, does ubuntu need antivirus?
[20:46] <Jordan_U> !antivirus | ultragamecard
[20:46] <lotuspsychje> !info clamav | ultragamecard if you like one
[20:46] <pavlos> adrian_1908, that's 777, wide open to all, the dirs above usually have 775
[20:46] <ultragamecard> I have clamav
[20:46] <ultragamecard> it doesn't do realtime scanning
[20:46] <lotuspsychje> ultragamecard: clamav's database has very recent linux rootkits n such known
[20:47] <lotuspsychje> ultragamecard: you have to manual scan indeed
[20:47] <lotuspsychje> !info rkhunter | ultragamecard works pretty nice too
[20:49] <cdspindle> hi
[20:49] <k1l> rkhunter doesnt work like antivirus on windows
[20:49] <Vespero> EriC^^ It worked! Thanks for your help, this was the last step in fixing a problem I've had all day
[20:49] <EriC^^> Vespero: great! np
[20:49] <ultragamecard> my windows machine keeps getting infected
[20:49] <ultragamecard> I only use it for youtube
[20:49] <k1l> ultragamecard: the biggest security issue on linux is the user doing things like installing 3rd party stuff that is insecure. i would start to think about that.
[20:50] <ultragamecard> i know
[20:50] <k1l> ultragamecard: so you want to scan that windows system?
[20:50] <ultragamecard> it has avira
[20:50] <onr> Humbedooh: i missed the part when you stopped being nice to me.
[20:50] <ultragamecard> but that is too offtopic
[20:50] <ultragamecard> I'll go the #windows for that
[20:50] <ultragamecard> to*
[20:56] <ultragamecard> I'm assuming everyone here is running ubuntu
[20:56] <bekks> Thats a wrong assumption.
[20:56] <k1l> ultragamecard: not everyone. we dont scan your system on entry :)
[20:56] <ultragamecard> I'm sorry
[20:56] <almark> netbsd over here ;)
[20:57] <ultragamecard> just a guess
[20:57] <ultragamecard> it is #ubuntu
[20:59] <almark> practise what you preach
[20:59] <snout> i have os x/kali linux. ubuntu and kali are both debian derivs
[20:59] <ultragamecard> snout have you seen parrotsec?
[20:59] <snout> negative, what is it?
[20:59] <zamba> i want to run windows virtualized and headless on an ubuntu server.. which virtualization engine do you recommend?
[21:00] <zamba> vbox?
[21:00] <k1l> ultragamecard: snout for non ubuntu chat/support there is ##linux
[21:00] <almark> do you run linux on a apple box snout ?
[21:00] <ultragamecard> parrotsec has all the kali tools plus support for tor, i2p and it looks cooler
[21:00] <snout> i am also in ##linux. I have a bootstick but am running into problems during ginstall and install surrounding lack of PCI ethernet card.
[21:01] <snout> so sort of
[21:01] <snout> ultragamecard thanks for the tip. Going to check that out
[21:01] <dubaco_1> !libre
[21:01] <ultragamecard> you're welcome
[21:01] <dubaco_1> !libreoffice
[21:02] <freezzzzeee> What's up niggas ?
[21:02] * Sarge123 off
[21:04] <snout> ultragamecard parrot looks slick
[21:05] <ultragamecard> i know right
[21:05] <snout> you run it?
[21:06] <ultragamecard> I have it on a live cd and in vbox
[21:06] <parsec2284> hi guys what does it mean booting in insecure mode
[21:06] <EriC^^> parsec2284: it means secure boot is turned off i guess
[21:06] <parsec2284> i feel like my ubuntu may have done something wrong
[21:06] <parsec2284> it is
[21:06] <ultragamecard> windows 8 has secure boot
[21:07] <snout> This message does not indicate a security problem with Ubuntu and does not interfere with the operation of the system except for introducing this boot delay. As a workaround to avoid this boot delay, users can enable SecureBoot if enabled on their hardware, or if they do not intend to use SecureBoot at all they can uninstall the shim-signed package and then rerun the grub-install command.
[21:07] <ultragamecard> copied that from wiki
[21:07] <snout> how many people landed on the askubuntu answer?
[21:07] <Jordan_U> parsec2284: Ubuntu supports UEFI Secure Boot, so you can re-enable it if you want to get rid of that message.
[21:07] <wastrel> does ubuntu have secure boot
[21:07] <ultragamecard> windows 8 secure boot is not secure
[21:08] <ultragamecard> it just makes it harder to liveboot
[21:08] <parsec2284> i thought secure boot /eufi in only for windows os
[21:08] <wastrel> why is it called that
[21:08] <ultragamecard> s
[21:08] <ultragamecard> they named it that so it won't sound stupid
[21:08] <snout> remeber in 1999 when windows had the variable name _NSAKEY
[21:08] <Jordan_U> parsec2284: No, Ubuntu and most other major GNU/Linux distributions support both UEFI and secure boot.
[21:09] <ultragamecard> "hey guys I invented a new way to make it hard to install linux distros on windows"
[21:09] <ultragamecard> secureboot logic
[21:10] <freeeezzzeeee> Sssupp niggas ??
[21:10] <k1l> ultragamecard: snout we focus on actual ubuntu support in here. for chat we have #ubuntu-offtopic of ##chat
[21:10] <systemd-estroyer> hows everyone
[21:10] <parsec2284> i notice that after burning flash drive with start up disk creator, and trying to boot the flash drive usig non eufi, secure boot off, after hitting the force boot button i got a com error
[21:10] <ultragamecard> we're not IT's but ok
[21:10] <snout> sorry k11, I was responding to windows secureboot being insecure. Tangetial, I know. Sorry
[21:11] <ubuntu86> ciao a tutti
[21:11] <parsec2284> i thought at first ubuntu was a poor os thne i thought the flash drive was broken then i relize i need to turn on eufi
[21:11] <parsec2284> do all linux os work in eufimode
[21:11] <ubuntu86> italian people
[21:11] <ubuntu86> please
[21:12] <Jordan_U> !it | ubuntu86
[21:12] <parsec2284> or just ubuntu
[21:12] <ubuntu86> ciao jordan
[21:12] <ubuntu86> sono nuovo
[21:12] <ubuntu86> con ubuntu
[21:12] <BrunoPT> parsec2284: I have arch in uefi mode
[21:12] <k1l> ubuntu86: see the bots message in italian.
[21:12] <Jordan_U> parsec2284: Most of the major distributions do, but this channel is only for Ubuntu. For other distributions please ask in their channels or in ##Linux.
[21:12] <BrunoPT> parsec2284: so all linux os should work
[21:12] <parsec2284> i like ubuntu
[21:12] <parsec2284> i like lubuntu
[21:13] <parsec2284> actually
[21:13] <parsec2284> very very stable
[21:13] <edisto> I tried to install cuda 7 1410 drivers on my 1504 system and now I can't even get the login screen to crash. I can't hit ctrl + alt + f2 to login via terminal and reinstall my drivers
[21:13] <edisto> how do you force your screen to crash if it just keeps glitching
[21:13] <shudon> you can't get the login screen to... crash?
[21:13] <shudon> oh... do you mean, kill it?
[21:13] <parsec2284> i think xfce is TE most stable linux distro i ever tried
[21:14] <parsec2284> it worked out of the box for me
[21:14] <edisto> yeah normally it just crashes after a few glitches but it won't this time and I can't get pass the glitching screen
[21:14] <shudon> there's an xcfe distro?
[21:14] <parsec2284> lubuntu
[21:14] * tgm4883 slaps forehead
[21:14] <parsec2284> i have a pretty modern pc i74770 16 ggis of ram
[21:14] <bekks> shudon: xubuntu
[21:14] <shudon> edisto: can you reboot?
[21:14] <shudon> bekks: ahh
[21:15] <edisto> yeah I rebooted into windows lol
[21:15] <genii> xubuntu has xfce, lubuntu has lxde :)
[21:15] <almark> 16GB ram :)
[21:15] <parsec2284> xubuntu on modern ssytems is so incredibly fast and stable
[21:15] <ultragamecard> thats too many
[21:15] <shudon> edisto: at the grub menu, boot into single user mode, and do your update from there. bad drivers are a pain in any OS.
[21:15] <almark> my old netbook runs xubuntu nicely
[21:15] <almark> it's from 2007
[21:16] <k1l> parsec2284: we try to focus on solving issues in here :) if you want to chat please join #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[21:16] <parsec2284> but lubuntu rocks on modern systems too
[21:16] <parsec2284> ohh ok
[21:16] <parsec2284> well then
[21:16] <parsec2284> i have more questions to ask
[21:16] <shudon> >running xcfe with 16GB RAM
[21:17] <parsec2284> why whne i burn a flash drive, must it be run in eufi
[21:17] <parsec2284> to install
[21:17] <jzvi12> openfiler or freenas
[21:17] <parsec2284> i know it works
[21:17] <edisto> shudon: thanks
[21:17] <parsec2284> im not sure why
[21:17] <shudon> edisto: np
[21:17] <k1l> parsec2284: that depends on the mainboard and bios.
[21:17] <parsec2284> i though linux fights eufi
[21:17] <edisto> ubuntugnome is the nicest i've seen though and its super stable
[21:17] <parsec2284> i have a pretty modern asus
[21:18] <k1l> parsec2284: you can enable "legacy mode" in some bios so you can install linux as it was in the old days without efi
[21:18] <k1l> parsec2284: linux cant fight uefi. its the hardware manufacturer who go the microsoft way.
[21:19] <parsec2284> but that said, is it true that some modern bios need and is mandatory to run os in eufi
[21:19] <parsec2284> as well as secure boot
[21:19] <k1l> parsec2284: that depends on the actual machine and if the bios got settings to disable secureboot and uefi
[21:19] <parsec2284> but at least i understand what the problem was
[21:20] <parsec2284> yes
[21:20] <shudon> does xbox one have uefi?
[21:20] <parsec2284> i disabled both secure boot
[21:20] <shudon> if it does, it probably can't be disabled, and requires secure boot
[21:20] <parsec2284> and was eufi
[21:20] <tgm4883> lets not confuse secureboot and uefi now
[21:20] <parsec2284> with eufi off os wont install
[21:20] <parsec2284> com error
[21:20] <parsec2284> must have eufi on and with secure boot off, i get the boot message insuecure mode
[21:21] <tgm4883> parsec2284: so leave uefi on?
[21:21] <parsec2284> so i guess i must have eufi on and seecure boot to run os
[21:21] <parsec2284> yes
[21:21] <parsec2284> and secure boot
[21:21] <tgm4883> parsec2284: ok, then what is the problem?
[21:21] <parsec2284> but what im saying is, linux articles say to turn them off
[21:22] <parsec2284> oh no problem
[21:22] <parsec2284> im just conversing
[21:22] <tgm4883> parsec2284: not all of them do, and the ones that do are either old or misinformed
[21:22] <tgm4883> parsec2284: conversing is for another channel. Try #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:22] <parsec2284> oh ok
[21:22] <k1l> parsec2284: lets stop conversating in here. we try to keep this channel clear for people with issues
[21:22] <tgm4883> this channel is for support
[21:22] <parsec2284> sory about will do
[21:22] <parsec2284> made clear
[21:31] <ultragamecard> look how many people come to irc when they need support for ubuntu!
[21:33] <Gh0st-> keep getting these errors
[21:33] <Cupric> Hey I'm having trouble configureing vsftpd on 14.04. I get an error that I can't change directories when trying to connect
[21:34] <Gh0st-> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[21:34] <Gh0st-> N: Ignoring file 'mongodb.listecho' in directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension
[21:34] <londoncalling> Gh0st- did you try apt-get -f install'?
[21:34] <Gh0st-> londoncalling: yes I did
[21:34] <Gh0st-> same thing came up again
[21:34] <londoncalling> Gh0st- umm, not an expert, but perhaps remove the slash at the end?
[21:35] <londoncalling> that should return the same error but I'm just ruling it out
[21:35] <Gh0st-> from?
[21:35] <k1l> Gh0st-: did you try to add a PPA recently or did something in that context?
[21:35] <Gh0st-> k1l: not sure what I did
[21:36] <Gh0st-> but yeah I tried to install ircanywhere
[21:36] <Gh0st-> 'mongo
[21:36] <k1l> Gh0st-: well, you have a misconfigured PPA. so can you show the howto you followed?
[21:37] <Gh0st-> silly
[21:37] <Gh0st-> me
[21:37] <tgm4883> Gh0st-: mongodb.listecho should be just mongodb.list
[21:37] <Gh0st-> just triend -f install
[21:37] <Gh0st-> seems to be working
[21:38] <k1l> yeah, so i want to see where he went wrong
[21:38] <MonkeyDust> Gh0st- I picked this up in this channel, save it as a text file, make it executable and then execute it http://paste.ubuntu.com/11574591/
[21:39] <Gh0st-> MonkeyDust: thanks
[21:39] <k1l> MonkeyDust: that will not help. he got a misconfigured ppa there
[21:39] <MonkeyDust> Gh0st- ah, missed that part, i was was away
[21:39] <Gh0st-> N: Ignoring file 'mongodb.listecho' in directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension
[21:39] <Gh0st-> still getting the same thing
[21:39] <k1l> Gh0st-: so what howto you were following?
[21:39] <Gh0st-> :/
[21:39] * tgm4883 sigh
[21:40] <tgm4883> Gh0st-: mongodb.listecho should be just mongodb.list
[21:40] * Gh0st- is a newbie
[21:40] <k1l> Gh0st-: that is what i told you. please answer my questions
[21:40] <tgm4883> you need to rename that ifile
[21:40] <Gh0st-> tgm4883: how can I change it
[21:40] <Gh0st-> k1l: dont know
[21:40] <Gh0st-> :/
[21:40] <Gh0st-> tgm4883: how?
[21:40] <Gh0st-> :/
[21:40] <willief> Is this the best place for install issues for 15.04?
[21:40] <tgm4883> cd /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[21:40] <k1l> willief: just ask and people will try to help
[21:40] <tgm4883> Gh0st-: then mv the file
[21:40] <willief> tyvm
[21:40] <acz32> Gh0st-: how can you not know what howto you followed? you obviously don't know enough to do this all on your own
[21:41] <Gh0st-> mongodb.list mongodb.listecho
[21:41] <Gh0st-> should I rm one?
[21:41] <Gh0st-> acz32: yeah true that
[21:41] <Gh0st-> :/
[21:41] <tgm4883> Gh0st-: you have both?
[21:41] <Gh0st-> tgm4883: yeah
[21:41] <tgm4883> Gh0st-: are their contents the same?
[21:41] <Gh0st-> :/
[21:41] <Gh0st-> not sure
[21:42] <Gh0st-> let me check through nano
[21:42] <tgm4883> yea do that
[21:42] <gzcwnk> I am trying to install bacula-server and it should have asked me some setup Q's but didnt, running dpkg-reconfigure -plow didnt trigger it either any ideas how I get it to run properly?
[21:42] <Gh0st-> tgm4883: yup exactly the same
[21:42] <Hobbyboy> When a release of Ubuntu goes out of support, what happens to its documentation?
[21:42] <tgm4883> Gh0st-: then remove the listecho one
[21:42] <Gh0st-> ok
[21:42] <Gh0st-> donr
[21:42] <Gh0st-> done
[21:42] <Gh0st-> now?
[21:43] <tgm4883> Now you shouldn't get that error anymore
[21:43] <Gh0st-> ok
[21:44] <MonkeyDust> Hobbyboy it's still available here (e.g. 10.04) http://ubuntu-manual.org/downloads
[21:44] <willief> i boot from a USB stick with 15.04 64bit .iso. I want to install to my new SSD but the installer insists it is already mounted as /cdrom. I cannor umount /cdrom or /dev/sdb evn with the -f switch , fuser just tells me root@ubuntu:/# fuser -vm /dev/sdb USER PID ACCESS COMMAND /dev/sdb: root kernel mount /cdrom - any ideas? I want to have a 512Mb ext2 for root 40GB for / and the rest as swap
[21:44] <Jordan_U> Hobbyboy: Why do you ask?
[21:45] <Gh0st-> continueing with IRCANYWHERE installation
[21:45] <daftykins> willief: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && sudo parted -l | pastebinit
[21:45] <daftykins> then share the link
[21:45] <willief> daftykins: ok - cheers
[21:45] <Hobbyboy> I still use Ubuntu 10.04 for certain purposes, due to them being broken in newer versions of Ubuntu
[21:45] <k1l> willief: sdb will be the live usb in most cases. so are you sure you want to umount that?
[21:46] <bekks> Hobbyboy: 10.04 is EOL, entirely.
[21:46] <daftykins> Hobbyboy: that's a very bad move :)
[21:46] <k1l> Hobbyboy: 10.04 is EOL. so dont expect people or ubuntu to support it.
[21:46] <daftykins> i hope that system is not online
[21:47] <Hobbyboy> I know its EOL, I was just wondering where the documentation went after versions go EOL
[21:47] <willief> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11574663/
[21:47] <willief> I have a few HDDs :-)
[21:47] <willief> my SSD is /dev/sdb
[21:47] <bekks> Hobbyboy: Maybe its archived, maybe its just removed.
[21:47] <Hobbyboy> and I'm running it in a Virtual Machine with a firewalled connection, so the outside world doesn't have access
[21:48] <Jordan_U> Hobbyboy: What specifically doesn't work for you in Ubuntu 14.04 LTS?
[21:48] <Hobbyboy> Rosegarden with Midi
[21:48] <Hobbyboy> its broken in 12.04 as well
[21:49] <daftykins> willief: ok looking now, if you type my nickname first i can see highlights :)
[21:49] <gzcwnk> I am trying to install bacula-server and it should have asked me some setup Q's but didnt, running dpkg-reconfigure -plow didnt trigger it either any ideas how I get it to run properly?
[21:49] <Jordan_U> Hobbyboy: What happens when you try to use Rosegarden in Ubuntu 14.04?
[21:50] <Hobbyboy> I don't get any sound with Timidity, and distorted sound with QSynth
[21:50] <willief> daftykins: thank you
[21:50] <daftykins> willief: err are you sure? sdb looks like someone has written a 535MB ISO to it? :)
[21:50] <daftykins> willief: did you perhaps use 'dd' to make up a bootable drive but picked the wrong device?
[21:51] <daftykins> you can't run ubuntu from the same drive you want to install to
[21:51] <Gh0st-> ./install.sh: line 4: node: command not found
[21:52] <Gh0st-> can't go any furhter
[21:52] <Gh0st-> further*
[21:52] <k1l> Gh0st-: see what depencies that software names in the howto or readme and make sure that are installed already
[21:52] <willief> daftykins: that is confusing me too - let me reboot with my 4GB live USB (which I did make with dd BTW) out and then insert it so I def know what it is mounted as
[21:52] <Gh0st-> k1l: ok
[21:53] <willief> Yes I know you cant install to the the USB stick you booted from
[21:53] <daftykins> willief: you could also just "mount | pastebinit"
[21:53] <willief> I learned that a while back :-)
[21:53] <k1l> willief: i think your mixed usb drive and ssd somehow
[21:53] <MonkeyDust> Hobbyboy if you're a compozer or musician, consider using Ubuntu Studio, it has its own support channel
[21:54] <Jordan_U> Hobbyboy: I'm seeing multiple reports of timidity working in Ubuntu 14.04 online. I'm wondering if it's a hardware specific issue, or maybe one specific to how you're invoking timidity. Are all of your tests being performed in a Virtualbox VM (so they have the same "hardware")?
[21:54] <willief> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11574718/
[21:54] <Hobbyboy> All of my tests are in Virtualbox
[21:54] <Hobbyboy> Timidity plays fine on its own, but doesn't in rosegarden
[21:55] <daftykins> willief: yeah your sdb is mounted as /cdrom because i think whichever OS you put on is on your SSD :) i also don't see your 4GB flash drive in your first pastebin
[21:55] <Hobbyboy> and if i use the fluidsynth plugin with vlc, it also plays fine
[21:55] <willief> well the system sees it cos for now Im running it as @try Ubuntu@
[21:56] <k1l> willief: when using dd better double check what the output of dd goes to and if that is the target you want to go it to :)
[21:56] <Gh0st-> connection attempt failed at src/mongo/shell/mongo.js:146 / exception: connect failed
[21:56] <willief> with a US keybd
[21:56] <willief> k1l: yeah - been bitten with dd before - I always double check
[21:57] <daftykins> willief: but i don't see a 4GB device in the first pastebinit :D
[21:58] <tgm4883> +1 to daftykins I think he dd'd to the wrong device
[21:58] <willief> daftykins OK going to reboot from an old install of the HDDs and then see if I can reformat the SSD from there
[21:58] <daftykins> willief: you seem to have a lot of other disks with LVM or mdadm RAID on too, i think if it were me i would disconnect _all_ drives except for the SSD and the 4GB flash drive once it has had the ISO loaded
[21:58] <daftykins> willief: yeah just dd 50MB of zeroes onto it, then remake your flash drive then you should be golden :)
[21:59] <Jordan_U> Hobbyboy: Try again using Ubuntu Studio 14.04 LTS, and if you can reproduce the problem there please ask in #ubuntustudio (and file a bug report if one hasn't already been filed).
[21:59] <Hobbyboy> ok
[21:59] <willief> daftykins: yes I want to mount /home /usr/local /projects /opt etc from my existing LVMs later when I get 15.04 on
[22:00] <willief> daftykins: but I'll power down and disconnect the other HDDS for now and try to install there and mount the other drivees later
[22:00] <daftykins> willief: sounds like a plan :)
[22:01] <willief> back soon :-)
[22:01] <Gh0st-> Error: couldn't connect to server
[22:01] <Gh0st-> what shoudl I put in here
[22:01] <Gh0st-> reason: errno:111 Connection refused
[22:02] <daftykins> pasting errors without context usually doesn't get you too far
[22:02] <Gh0st-> MongoDB shell version: 2.6.10
[22:02] <Gh0st-> connecting to: test
[22:03] <daftykins> Gh0st-: yeah you're still just pasting stuff randomly
[22:04] <Gh0st-> :/
[22:04] <tgm4883> !context
[22:04] <Gh0st-> daftykins: what should I paste then
[22:04] <daftykins> phrase a question
[22:04] <tgm4883> !details
[22:04] <Gh0st-> trying to set up Mondodb
[22:04] <daftykins> "i am trying to x, i have done y, but i expected z"
[22:04] <Gh0st-> :/
[22:04] <Gh0st-> does that help?
[22:05] <daftykins> you gave us one third of my example
[22:05] <tgm4883> Gh0st-: no. Do what daftykins said. "I'm trying to set up mondodb, I'm at step X of this guide <LINK HERE>, but I'm getting this error"
[22:07] <Gh0st-> dont know how can I explain really
[22:07] <Gh0st-> getting the error of connection refused whilst running mondo
[22:07] <Gh0st-> mongo*
[22:08] <daftykins> ok so perhaps the service hasn't started ?
[22:08] <daftykins> if you just installed it
[22:08] <Gh0st-> Yeah
[22:08] <Gh0st-> it is not starting
[22:08] <daftykins> what error does it give?
[22:08] <Gh0st-> connection attempt failed at src/mongo/shell/mongo.js:146
[22:08] <daftykins> i'm assuming you tried "sudo service mongodb start"
[22:08] <Gh0st-> no
[22:08] <daftykins> ok try that
[22:08] <Gh0st-> ok
[22:09] <k1l> Gh0st-: what howto are you following? that must be the worst howto ever
[22:09] <Gh0st-> mongodb: unrecognized service
[22:10] <Gh0st-> same error again warning: Failed to connect to 127.0.0.1:2701, reason: errno:111 Connection refused
[22:10] <daftykins> try "sudo service mongod start"
[22:10] <tgm4883> Gh0st-: yes, what guide are you following? The official ircanywhere install docs?
[22:11] <Gh0st-> tgm4883: yes
[22:11] <Gh0st-> not helpinh
[22:11] <Gh0st-> :(
[22:11] <tgm4883> Gh0st-: are you doing the manual install or the automatic install?
[22:14] <daftykins> i sense a manual non-package install was performed
[22:14] <Gh0st-> tgm4883: I think manual
[22:14] <Gh0st-> how can I do automatic
[22:14] <Gh0st-> :/
[22:14] <tgm4883> daftykins: there isn't a package install
[22:15] <tgm4883> http://docs.ircanywhere.com/en/latest/
[22:15] <daftykins> no? ah ok explains that then :D
[22:15] <tgm4883> those are the install docs
[22:15] <socialevil> hi guys i have a question. when i start downloading something from the internet, my browser stops loading pages.. or it does it really slow. its like all the connection goes for the download and none for the browser.. is there some setting or something like that, so that i can make my browser load pages fast as usual even if i am downloading something ?
[22:15] <daftykins> never used mongo in my life
[22:15] <tgm4883> the "automatic" install is an install script
[22:15] <bekks> tgm4883: There a PPA at least, linked on the official mongodb site.
[22:15] <daftykins> socialevil: let me guess, ubuntu on a laptop with a wifi card you had trouble getting going at first install?
[22:16] <socialevil> daftykins, ubuntu on a laptop with usb stick ( i had no problems getting going at all )
[22:16] <tgm4883> bekks: sorry, I was talking about his larger issue of installing ircanywhere. There likely is mongodb packages available for install, but first we should figure out what he's following and how he tried to install it
[22:17] <Gh0st-> $ ./install.sh
[22:17] <daftykins> socialevil: so it's not even installed?
[22:17] <Gh0st-> where I can get the install scrit
[22:17] <Gh0st-> script
[22:18] <socialevil> daftykins, well.. i haven't installed anything.. i just put the usb stick in the usb, and in a couple of seconds i get my network, i click connect and there you go :)
[22:18] <daftykins> socialevil: so what are you downloading in a live session?
[22:19] <daftykins> 'cause there'd not really be anywhere for it to go unless you mounted a local disk
[22:19] <tgm4883> wow, these install docs are kinda bad
[22:19] <tgm4883> Gh0st-: I'd assume it's the one listed here https://github.com/ircanywhere/ircanywhere
[22:20] <socialevil> daftykins, netbeans, jdk or even torrents.. whatever it is.. when i download something.. my browsing is interrupted
[22:21] <k1l> Gh0st-: if you had answered my questions before it would have been clear what you need because its named in "Pre-requisites"
[22:21] <daftykins> socialevil: is this a persistent install?
[22:21] <daftykins> on said flash drive
[22:22] <Gh0st-> k1l: sorry dude
[22:22] <socialevil> daftykins, i dont know what persistent install means
[22:22] <daftykins> socialevil: well essentially, if you're saying you're installing software... you're going to run out of space and it'll all be gone after you restart...
[22:22] <daftykins> so doing anything in a live session without a persistence file is pointless
[22:23] <Gh0st-> how would I use ./install.sh
[22:23] <socialevil> no no, its a installed system and all..
[22:24] <Gh0st-> k1l: how would I use install.sh
[22:24] <daftykins> ...to a flash drive?
[22:24] <daftykins> you really don't want to run from a flash drive
[22:25] <socialevil> daftykins, i do have windows and ubuntu on my laptop.. actually the problem occurs on both systems ( i dont know if thats of any significance ) but because i use ubuntu all the time.. i asked here
[22:25] <k1l> Gh0st-: is nom and node installed?
[22:26] <daftykins> socialevil: wow, is there any further detail you can give that'd make this easier?
[22:26] <k1l> *npm
[22:26] <Gh0st-> yes
[22:26] <tgm4883> Gh0st-: honestly, this seems a bit above you. Are you sure you want to be running ircanywhere? This this machine going to be internet accessible?
[22:26] <Gh0st-> tgm4883: it's a VPS
[22:26] <socialevil> daftykins, i think there is misunderstanding .. my internet comes from an usb flash drive.. not my ubuntu
[22:26] <tgm4883> so then yes...
[22:26] <k1l> Gh0st-: go to the ircanywhere folder
[22:26] <Gh0st-> k1l: yes
[22:26] <Gh0st-> ok
[22:27] <daftykins> socialevil: aaaaaah so it's NOT a flash drive, it's a mobile broadband/cellular data *DONGLE* ?
[22:27] <Gh0st-> k1l: ./install.sh: line 4: node: command not found
[22:27] <socialevil> daftykins, sorry for the .. confusion .. i dont know what it is.. i see a usb stick and internet :D :D :D
[22:27] <k1l> Gh0st-: so is nodejs installed or not?
[22:27] <daftykins> oy vey
[22:27] <daftykins> praise be to Tux for the clarification
[22:28] <tgm4883> k1l: a quick looks at the docs, they are kinda bad I think
[22:28] <daftykins> socialevil: where in the world are you? does this dongle have any markings on it like brand name? what provider does it come from?
[22:28] <k1l> Gh0st-: the errormessage says its not. but you just answered me it is installed. so one of you both is lying
[22:28] <Gh0st-> lol
[22:28] <Gh0st-> sorry
[22:28] <Gh0st-> not lying
[22:28] <Gh0st-> didnt know
[22:28] <Gh0st-> now it is
[22:28] <socialevil> daftykins, i am in austria, its from drei (thats means - three) provider
[22:29] <Gh0st-> k1l: now nothing is happening
[22:29] <k1l> Gh0st-: read the howto you are following.
[22:30] <daftykins> socialevil: so the fact it happens in Windows too shows it's not an issue that can be fixed in the OS - it's just the nature of mobile data setups, they can't handle more than one thing at once when the signal is poor
[22:30] <daftykins> socialevil: are you in a city centre?
[22:30] <k1l> Gh0st-: with more reading and not taht much "flying over the text and blindly copying the commands" you could be done already
[22:30] <Gh0st-> :/
[22:30] <Gh0st-> true
[22:30] <Gh0st-> well nothing is happening now
[22:31] <ubuntu-mate> hola
[22:31] <k1l> Gh0st-: if its done with no errors that means: everything worked, no errors
[22:31] <socialevil> daftykins, i am like in the center of the center.. but my signal strength is like 40-50 % all the time. but i need to tell you that when i am elsewhere, and the signal strength is 70%, the download speed is higher, but the browsing problem persist
[22:31] <ubuntu-mate> espa;ol_
[22:31] <k1l> Gh0st-: read the howto!
[22:31] <k1l> !es | ubuntu-mate
[22:31] <daftykins> socialevil: yeah so like i say, it can't handle more than one task at once
[22:32] <daftykins> socialevil: or perhaps there is a firmware update available for this device, if you can read a make and model from it
[22:32] <ubuntu-mate> zx
[22:32] <ubuntu-mate> szumsky
[22:33] <Gh0st-> npm WARN This failure might be due to the use of legacy binary "node"
[22:34] <socialevil> daftykins, ok.. so its from the usb stick or.. mobile broadband dongle .. as you said.. i guess these things dont have settings or something ? i can look for the usb model name
[22:34] <daftykins> socialevil: yeah my first guess would be that it's a Huawei stick
[22:34] <daftykins> socialevil: i'm glancing at www.drei.at right now
[22:35] <socialevil> daftykins, right :) it was like.. huawei e35.x.x something
[22:35] <Gh0st-> Starting ircanywhere daemon...
[22:35] <Gh0st-> ircanywhere daemon stopped.
[22:35] <Gh0st-> is that normal?
[22:35] <daftykins> socialevil: i see a few models here with downloads - https://www.drei.at/portal/de/bottomnavi/kontakt-und-hilfe/technischer-support/servicedownloads/
[22:36] <k1l> Gh0st-: sudo apt-get install nodejs-legacy
[22:37] <Gh0st-> k1l: done
[22:37] <tsimonq2> There is an Ubuntu Google+ Community! https://plus.google.com/communities/107299007624972266094
[22:37] <Gh0st-> k1l: demon is stopping?
[22:37] <Gh0st-> :/
[22:37] <Gh0st-> daemon
[22:37] <daftykins> tsimonq2: that's more relevant to speak about in #ubuntu-offtopic or perhaps #ubuntu-discuss
[22:37] <socialevil> daftykins, its this one https://www.drei.at/portal/de/privat/handys-und-geraete/alle-geraete/geraetedetails/huawei-e3531.html
[22:38] <tsimonq2> daftykins, Sorry! :)
[22:38] <k1l> Gh0st-: see why it stopped. see if it got a log. see if you configured the stuff how it is needed
[22:38] <k1l> Gh0st-: for more support ask the ircanywhere guys
[22:41] <redemptionsong> Is there any way to retrieve my mysql username. I don't care about the password (which I hear can not be obtained - thank God) I need the username alone (not by guessing but vai actual, concrete data printed to my command line). Can it be done?
[22:41] <daftykins> socialevil: can you get version numbers from the software in Windows?
[22:42] <socialevil> daftykins, well i have to reboot.. can you wait couple of minutes
[22:42] <daftykins> sure
[22:42] <socialevil> brb
[22:44] <Gh0st-> well this is useless
[22:44] <Gh0st-> I am leaving
[22:45] <ivancp> Greetings from Peru
[22:45] <daftykins> hi
[22:45] <socialevil> daftykins: what was that you need again ?
[22:45] * gzcwnk waves goodbye
[22:45] <daftykins> socialevil: you should have some kind of software utility for the Huawei, does it list a software version?
[22:46] <socialevil> daftykins: 3InternetManager Version 3.1.0.169
[22:46] <daftykins> socialevil: any information page about the Huawei device?
[22:46] <socialevil> daftykins: i need to check all the info/settings .. give me a sec
[22:47] <daftykins> sure
[22:47] <daftykins> it appears to be called 'Mobile Partner' if that's of any help (the Windows utility)
[22:49] <socialevil> daftykins: well there is a status report with general information , active modem information, sim, network status, network settings, computer information , internet applications , with some kind of information about modem driver version , hardware version, authentication protocols and so on .. but there is no webpage pointing to some info about the huawei device
[22:49] <daftykins> socialevil: what is the driver and hardware version?
[22:50] <socialevil> Modem driver version 2.6.2.3143 Driver package version 5.01.5.0
[22:50] <socialevil> Hardware version CH1E3531SM"
[22:52] <daftykins> socialevil: hrmm ok i was hoping to find newer software on the hauwei website, but i think when a device is specific to your telecom provider (Drei) then it must be supported by them. I would call them / go into a store and ask if they can give you a newer device / or update the software to try that.
[22:52] <daftykins> socialevil: beyond that, i don't think there are many options
[22:53] <daftykins> it's just the nature of mobile data devices to be good for one task at a time :)
[22:54] <socialevil> i see daftykins so.. basically this problem is because of the device.. fair enough :) at least now i know its not some stupid check option i've missed :) and its more troublesome
[22:54] <socialevil> daftykins: thank you for the time and help :)
[22:54] <daftykins> socialevil: yeah i think so, i'm sure the company would have a good idea
[22:54] <daftykins> no problem :)
[22:55] <socialevil> cheers :)
[23:00] <guest8574> Ugh... I just extracted a tar archive, and it busted its load of files all over my directory instead of creating a directory like most archives do. Is there a way to "undo" a tar extract?
[23:01] <OerHeks> guest8574, no, just look at the dates of files and folders to get a clue
[23:01] <al8989> hello i am having trouble viewing windows shares on kubuntu when i click network and than workgroup it showsa list of my windows computers but when i choose one it shows no files or folders and says server timeout any suggestions?
[23:02] <wastrel> guest8574: you can do tar t to list files in the tar
[23:02] <allegorical> hi is ther a way to simply rip mp3 off a cd like in two lines: sudo apt-get install foo; run foo on CD with target Drive; ? or something? thx
[23:03] <daftykins> al8989: what's the task, one-time file browse?
[23:03] <wastrel> guest8574: tar tf file.tar
[23:03] <al8989> noaccess files stored there regularly
[23:03] <guest8574> Thanks. It would be great if there was a tar switch that would create a new directory to hold the files if the extraction would produce more than one file.
[23:03] <daftykins> al8989: so you'd be better off with a mount huh?
[23:04] <al8989> maybe
[23:04] <al8989> but i can't even acess theem one time
[23:04] <daftykins> personally i would prefer, if forced to use a GUI file manager, to perhaps browse to it via entering smb://IP/sharename
[23:09] <lnb> want to install ubuntu 14.04 on raid 1. Sites all say when partitioning use as physical volume for raid. However there is no option to use as physical volume for raid in the drop down list
[23:11] <lnb> ok i see now
[23:11] <lnb> http://www.ubuntulinuxguide.com/software-raid-ubuntu-14-04-setup-install-configure/
[23:11] * theBestNunu smites your blue buff.
[23:20] <zzar> hello there, I have a curious visual problem of some sort. sometimes part of browser page gets shaded, in different colors depending on the dominant color on the respective web page of the moment
[23:20] <psusi> lnb, don't make the mistake of thinking that raid is a substitute for backups... raid doesn't help if you delete or overwrite an important file, or if the filesystem just gets corrupted and such
[23:21] <Jon30> hey guys, i am trying to make mysql server accessible externally... right now iptables have this line: 1 0 0 ACCEPT tcp -- !lo * 96.45.replaced.replaced 0.0.0.0/0 tcp dpt:3306
[23:21] <Jon30> is it currently blocking mysql from being acceesed externally?
[23:22] <psusi> Jon30, looks like it says accept, but why muck with iptables at all?
[23:22] <daftykins> Jon30: did you already reconfigure it to listen on your interface rather than on localhost only?
[23:23] <Jon30> psusi it's nice to have a firewall for security, no?
[23:23] <Jon30> daftykins what do you mean?
[23:23] <lnb> psusi: never did. my /data is backed up every night
[23:23] <psusi> Jon30, no... firewalls disable functionality that you otherwise enabled... if you didn't want that functionality then why enable it in the first place? and if you don't want it, then just don't enable it in the first place... no reason to use iptables to do so
[23:24] <daftykins> Jon30: as default, mysql listens on loopback alone, or localhost - not your eth0
[23:24] <psusi> lnb, good... you also might want to consider using raid10 instead... with a large chunk size and the offset layout, you get the sequential read performance of raid0 with the redundancy of raid1
[23:25] <psusi> lnb, but you have to manually set up the raid using mdadm yourself instead of relying on the installer to do it for you
[23:25] <lnb> psusi: not on a office desktop. All our servers run raid-50+2/3 hot spares
[23:25] <Jon30> psusi: i need the firewall for other services besides mysql.
[23:25] <psusi> lnb, why not on a desktop?
[23:25] <psusi> I'm running it on mine
[23:25] <Jon30> daftykins: do you mean the bind-address within my.cfg?
[23:26] <lnb> psusi: not worth it
[23:26] <psusi> picked up 3 cheap wd 1tb blues last xmas and got system partition in raid10 and bulk data in raid5... system partition reads at ~500 mb/s
[23:26] <daftykins> Jon30: yeah
[23:26] <Jon30> daftykins: i set it to 0.0.0.0
[23:27] <psusi> Jon30, what services do you have installed, set to allow remote access, but don't actually want to be able to access remotely?
[23:27] <daftykins> and rule out iptables with "iptables -F" and "iptables -X" to flush all rules if security doesn't matter
[23:27] <daftykins> Jon30: ok so what i was getting at was "did you enable this" and the answer is "yes" :D
[23:27] <Jon30> yes!
[23:27] <daftykins> *facepalm*
[23:28] <Jon30> should i just remove the 1 0 0 ACCEPT tcp -- !lo * 96.45.x.x 0.0.0.0/0 tcp dpt:3306 rule from iptables
[23:30] <psusi> Jon30, what I'm trying to say is that if you have a service that you only want to accept local connections, then you can just configure the service itself to do so rather than stick a firewall between the service and the network... so a firewall is pointless
[23:32] <Jon30> psusi: the firewall is for bunch of other things
[23:32] <psusi> Jon30, yea... and that "bunch of other things" you can just configure not to allow remote access instead of using a firewall to override the service configuration
[23:33] <wolfy1339> how do i fix that my network adapter isn't detected after the upgrade from 14.10 to 15.04
[23:34] <Jon30> i see psusi. but with iptables currently enabled, do i need to add anything in addition to the line i pasted above to allow external connections?
[23:37] <psusi> Jon30, you need to make sure that mysql is configured to accept remote connections.. i.e. it is listening on the network interface instead of loopback only
[23:38] <daftykins> psusi: i said that already and we had an entire to-and-fro confirming it ;)
[23:39] <Jon30> well i set the bind-address to 0.0.0.0 and not to the network interface ip
[23:39] <daftykins> Jon30: just flush the rules temporarily like i said, if you're on a trusted network
[23:39] <daftykins> well i'm assuming you've done your due diligence to check whether that's the procedure
[23:41] <marco_> how can i chnge the way my headphone is detected (trs / trrs)
[23:41] <Jon30> do i set the bind address to eth0's inet addr?
[23:43] <daftykins> Jon30: look it up
[23:44] <EADG> !offtopic
[23:46] <wolfy1339> how do i fix that my network adapter on my server isn't detected after the upgrade from 14.10 to 15.04? It worked before the upgrade to 15.04
[23:47] <daftykins> wolfy1339: identify which it is from 'lspci' first
[23:47] <daftykins> wolfy1339: also double check your system pulled in the corresponding -extra- kernel package along with the current working kernel
[23:48] <wolfy1339> it's an openvz server if that helps
[23:49] <daftykins> err
[23:49] <wolfy1339> lspci: command not found
[23:49] <daftykins> you probably shouldn't be updating such a VM
[23:49] <daftykins> or VPS
[23:51] <k1l> wolfy1339: talk to that hoster. that issue depends on the setup that openvz server and host was setup.
[23:53] <di_giorgio> Mp3player [Ed Sheeran - Photograph (The Voice Performance)] CeBoLiNhA 2015
[23:54] <snkcld> how can i force unity to rescan all the desktop files?
[23:54] <EriC^^> why?
[23:54] <k1l> di_giorgio: please turn that script of for this channel
[23:54] <snkcld> EriC^^: me? becuase im experimenting with a .desktop file, and it cant find the icon
[23:55] <snkcld> so i just want to trigger the reloads more often
[23:55] <EriC^^> snkcld: in the dash you mean?
[23:55] <snkcld> yup
[23:55] <EriC^^> it should show up if you type it's name
[23:55] <EriC^^> Name= part
[23:55] <snkcld> well, actually, in bo th the dash and sidebar. the dash finds the icon, the sidebar uses the chrome icon still
[23:55] <Scott_S> Hey there! Does anyone here have any idea why postfix would be rejecting port 25 connections despite the fact it's listening on that port? It's fine from localhost, but anything outside of that is rejected. inet_interfaces it set to all, thoguh.
[23:56] <snkcld> it does, yes, however when i modify the file the change is not immediate
[23:56] <Guest99405> hello, does anyone know how to edit a GTK3 theme so that it is square/flat like Numix theme? any guides on the internet to do that? -thanks
[23:56] <daftykins> Scott_S: not restarted the daemon since changing config?
[23:57] <di_giorgio> Mp3player [Have You Ever Seen the Rain (The Voice Performance) - Noelle Bybee _ Sawyer Fredericks] CeBoLiNhA 2015
[23:57] <Scott_S> daftykins, Haha, I wish it was that simple. Yes, I did.
[23:57] <daftykins> hrmm
[23:57] <daftykins> anything in its' logs complain about a config syntax typo perhaps?
[23:58] <daftykins> can't say i've ever run my own mail
[23:58] <daftykins> life is too short...
[23:58] <Scott_S> Neither of those logs has any errors in it. Not mail.err or mail.log, unless those are the wrong log files.
[23:59] <psusi> I miss the days when you had a local ISP that could find their arse with both hands... my cable company's email servers are a joke... I need to find a new email host
[23:59] <daftykins> psusi: that'd count as #ubuntu-offtopic discussion
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[08:37] <dkessel> hello quality :)
[20:02] <Letozaf_> Hey balloons
[20:35] <balloons> hello Letozaf_
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2015-06-04-#ubuntu-cn
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[02:30] <BuMangHuo> 这第三方的微博客户端看来是用不了了
[02:30] <BuMangHuo> 一个周就得重新登陆一次
[02:33] <hower> 还有人在吗？
[02:49] <hower> 祝贺高升
[02:49] <iMadper> happyaron: 小DD威武!
[02:50] <iMadper> happyaron: 新的sogou输入法没问题了
[02:50] <iMadper> happyaron: 词库修正了都
[02:50] <hower> 在哪里下载最新的？
[02:50] <iMadper> hower: http://pinyin.sogou.com/linux/?r=pinyin
[02:50] <ubrl> ⇪ f: 搜狗输入法 for linux
[02:50] <hower> thanks
[02:58] <iMadper> HowIsItGoing: 蛙蛙
[03:01] <tryit> iMadper, gawk包里是不是没awk.info.gz？
[03:01] <iMadper> tryit: 不知道诶.
[03:02] <iMadper> tryit: 你是说 info awk ?
[03:02] <tryit> iMadper, en
[03:02] <iMadper> tryit: 那gawk肯定有啊
[03:02] <tryit> iMadper, 没
[03:02] <iMadper> tryit: 这还能没有? GAWK(1) Utility Commands GAWK(1)
[03:02] <iMadper> tryit: 我输入info awk
[03:03] <iMadper> tryit: 直接就进入gawk的info页面了.
[03:03] <tryit> iMadper, 我输入info awk，结果是man awk
[03:03] <tryit> iMadper, 我用的debian
[03:03] <tryit> iMadper, :(
[03:03] <iMadper> tryit: awk的manpage和info page用的是同样的文本.
[03:03] <iMadper> tryit: 你看man一样的.
[03:03] <tryit> iMadper, 好吧
[03:04] <tryit> iMadper, 谢了
[03:04] <iMadper> tryit: :-)
[03:08] <HowIsItGoing> iMadper: 肿么
[03:09] <iMadper> HowIsItGoing: cloud组是不是有openvpn撒?
[03:09] <iMadper> HowIsItGoing: 能申请个不?~
[03:09] <HowIsItGoing> iMadper: 。
[03:09] <HowIsItGoing> iMadper: 你也有，人人都有
[03:09] <HowIsItGoing> iMadper: 下irc密码那个网站，你看看
[03:10] <iMadper> HowIsItGoing: 好的, 多谢!
[03:10] <BuMangHuo> HowIsItGoing: 早啊
[03:10] * BuMangHuo 拜 awk guru iMadper
[03:10] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: ... ... ...
[03:11] * iMadper html5的4k视频在我电脑上播放流畅, 大赞!
[03:11] * BuMangHuo 拜小 dd 妹子壕 happyaron
[03:11] <HowIsItGoing> BuMangHuo: 早
[03:11] * iMadper 拜小 dd 妹子壕 happyaron
[03:11] <hower> ..不早了
[03:12] <BuMangHuo> iMadper: 哎，你也被砍单了？ 组团维权去？
[03:12] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: sigh... 没办法吧..
[03:12] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: nnnd, 不开心
[03:12] <BuMangHuo> iMadper: 为啥效率那么低
[03:12] <BuMangHuo> 你下单得石猴比我早啊
[03:13] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 不晓得...
[03:13] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 你的 输入法还不更新?
[03:13] <BuMangHuo> iMadper: 我昨天才装得，我特意把石猴放到最前面了啊
[03:14] <BuMangHuo> 的的的的的的的
[03:14] * BuMangHuo 手动调词频
[03:14] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 赞!
[03:17] <BuMangHuo> iMadper: 天猫那个 999 的 hd598 不知道有人买到没有
[03:20] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 不如买k701啊
[03:20] <iMadper> HowIsItGoing: 那个, 哪个是酒仙桥电信机房的啊?
[03:20] <iMadper> HowIsItGoing: 都是uk/us的啊...
[03:22] <hower> 我在360工作
[03:22] <iMadper> hower: 好厉害
[03:23] <hower> 那個電信機房有兩個
[03:23] <iMadper> hower: 我在361工作, 我是福建做鞋的
[03:23] <hower> ..
[03:23] <hower> 比360牛逼
[03:35] <^k^> 新 初学者园地 - 15.04 • 【求救求救】安装15.04重启后开不了机。。 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=470615 好像是引导问题，我该怎么弄啊，折腾一天了。。。插U盘只有试用，安装和检查几个选项，不插就完全找不到系统。 zz: keyliqirui — 2015-06-04 10:55
[03:35] <hower> ....
[03:37] <ruifeng> 早上好
[03:38] <hower> 都9点半了
[03:38] <hower> 你在哪啊？
[03:39] <ruifeng> 在新疆啊
[03:41] <hower> 我东北的
[03:44] <HowIsItGoing> iMadper: 国内没有撒
[03:44] * HowIsItGoing 拜小 dd 妹子壕 happyaron
[03:45] <iMadper> HowIsItGoing: 昂...
[03:46] <O0XX|Qiong> HowIsItGoing: 之前你们cloud那个vpn不是酒仙桥那个?
[03:46] <hower> 谁做 P2P系统 开发的？
[03:47] <BuMangHuo> iMadper: 吹吧你就，你不是在通州渔场工作？
[03:47] <hower> 称霸鱼塘
[03:47] <hower> 承包鱼塘啊
[03:48] <BuMangHuo> 昂
[03:48] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: lol~
[03:48] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 池塘没承包下来啊
[03:48] <iMadper> O0XX|Qiong: 一会儿711?
[03:49] <BuMangHuo> iMadper: 不是已经斩了老板娘了？
[03:49] <hower> Linux开win模拟器玩LOL
[03:49] <O0XX|Qiong> iMadper: 现在就去吧, 我下午要出去一下
[03:49] <BuMangHuo> O0XX|Qiong: yoooooo
[03:49] <hower> 我先撤了... 88
[03:49] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: ...
[03:49] <iMadper> O0XX|Qiong: 好.
[03:49] <BuMangHuo> http://www.smzdm.com/p/678203 nnd， 锋隐还没用完
[03:49] <ubrl> BuMangHuo: ⇪ 手机端，券后小神价：Gillette 吉列 锋隐致顺套组（手动1刀架+4刀头+剃须泡210g）*3 179.6元包邮（399.6-220，合60元/套）_京东优惠_什么值得买
[03:50] <BuMangHuo> 不屯了
[03:50] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 学李老板买一刀净啊
[03:50] <BuMangHuo> iMadper: 那是啥
[03:50] <BuMangHuo> iMadper: 国内不好搞吧
[03:50] <HowIsItGoing> O0XX|Qiong: 毛线，哪有
[03:51] <HowIsItGoing> O0XX|Qiong: 是ssh，后来不给我们team用了，不知道哪里去了
[03:51] <HowIsItGoing> O0XX|Qiong: 屌丝team不着人待见，买了几十台机器，我们一台也没排上。
[03:53] <iMadper> cherrot: 兔兔
[03:58] * O0XX|Qiong momo HowIsItGoing
[04:02] * HowIsItGoing 某墙今天果然严了很多，vpn5分钟一断
[04:06] <tryit> iMadper, O0XX|Qiong awk能否嵌套使用？其中某个field也是由一系列的sub field组成的
[05:09] * nyfair 招聘廉价程序猿
[05:09] <nyfair> 啊啊啊，今天我要找个民逗好好吵架
[05:10] <nyfair> 占占占 人
[05:10] <nyfair> 占占占人
[05:10] <nyfair> 占占点
[05:10] <nyfair> 占点占
[05:10] <nyfair> 点占占
[05:10] <nyfair> 灬占占占
[05:10] <nyfair> 快来个民逗高潮啊
[05:11] <jackness> 来找我吧
[05:11] <jackness> 我需要工作啊
[05:11] <jackness> 给我项目吧
[05:11] <jackness> 我来做软件测试
[05:11] <jackness> 大家中午好
[05:12] <nyfair> 测试你妹，测试是赚钱的活，不知道激活码么
[05:12] <nyfair> 还想让我贴钱？
[05:17] <^k^> 新 初学者园地 - 15.04 • synaptics触摸板怎么驱动手势？？ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=470616 RT，笔记本带的是synaptics触摸板，现在是只能移动鼠标和左右键，一点点手势都用不了，求解怎么才能把手势弄出来？现在这样好不方便啊。。。 zz: guoalvin — 2015-06-04 13:16
[05:18] <jackness> 额。。。。
[05:19] <jackness_> 额。。。
[05:19] <jackness_> 人呢？
[05:20] <Niac> 全绿 要剁手了
[05:20] * nyfair 招聘廉价程序猿
[05:21] <jackness> 我是廉价程序员
[05:21] <jackness> nyfair: 你找我吧
[05:21] <nyfair> 2k rmb / month，包住房
[05:22] <jackness> 不错啊 我做了
[05:23] <nyfair> https://github.com/nyfair/DemonMasterChris/tree/master/chinese
[05:23] <ubrl> ⇪ f: DemonMasterChris/chinese at master · nyfair/DemonMasterChris · GitHub
[05:24] <jackness> nyfair: 你这个是什么项目啊
[05:24] <jackness> nyfair: 看不懂啊
[05:25] <nyfair> jackness: 以前的游戏翻译，现在做新黄油
[05:25] <jackness> nyfair: 不懂啊，怎么帮助你啊
[05:25] <jackness> nyfair: 以前的游戏翻译？
[05:26] <nyfair> jackness: 写脚本，画图
[05:26] <nyfair> jackness: 文案，广告
[05:26] <jackness> nyfair: 我没学过uid
[05:26] <jackness> nyfair: 我帮你做文案吧
[05:26] <nyfair> jackness: 百度贴吧，微博
[05:27] <jackness> nyfair: 好吧 教我该怎么做
[05:27] <jackness> 2k也跟你混了
[05:27] <nyfair> jackness: 你现在是做什么的？
[05:28] <jackness> nyfair: 我现在就做了个论坛还有一个个人博客 我打算做一个blogger 目前在家里创业
[05:28] <jackness> 卖vpn账号
[05:28] <jackness> http://114.215.97.106/
[05:28] <ubrl> jackness: ⇪ 一只自由鸟 | 又一个WordPress站点
[05:28] <jackness> 我的个人主页
[05:28] <jackness> www.nuaavpn.com
[05:28] <jackness> 我的论坛
[05:29] <nyfair> 同学，你的语文成绩没法当文案啊
[05:29] <jackness> nyfair: 我是英语专业毕业的 那我能做什么呢？
[05:31] <nyfair> 不知道，你还会什么
[05:31] <jackness> 我还会一点java
[05:32] <jackness> 然后懂点python
[05:32] <jackness> 会linux下shell编程
[05:32] <nyfair> rpgmaker会么
[05:32] <jackness> 不会 没听说过
[05:33] <nyfair> 懂一点事什么概念
[05:33] <nyfair> 是
[05:34] <jackness> java我是13年9月份接触到现在
[05:34] <nyfair> 我要求不高，会写触发器和战斗时的数值运算逻辑就行
[05:34] <jackness> python我是自学了一点东西 shell编程我是照书看的
[05:34] <iMadper> nyfair: 牛牛!
[05:35] <Niac> nyfair: 懂面向对象 算懂java吗
[05:35] <nyfair> iMadper: 菊钜
[05:35] <iMadper> Niac: 牛牛!
[05:35] <nyfair> Niac: 知道java怎么拼写就算了
[05:35] <nyfair> Niac: 牛牛
[05:35] <jackness> nyfair: 没写过触发器和战斗数值运算逻辑
[05:36] <jackness> 你是做网页游戏的吗？
[05:36] <jackness> 还是大型游戏
[05:36] <Niac> 主要是java类太多了 记不住
[05:36] <jackness> 现在网页游戏当道 大型游戏好像没有什么市场啊
[05:36] <Niac> 不然我就是javaer了
[05:37] <iMadper> javaer是啥? 爪哇人?
[05:37] <nyfair> jackness: 触发器还不简单，不就是if chara.hp < 100 chara.say ("啊啊啊，不要再打我了喵！")
[05:37] <iMadper> nyfair: 赞!
[05:38] <jackness> nyfair: 触发器这么简单？这么简单的逻辑？
[05:38] <iMadper> nyfair: 做这个赚吗?
[05:38] <nyfair> 但是你不能每次都要这么判断，一堆都这么写性能就是问题
[05:39] <jackness> 有适合我的岗位吗？如果就这么简单的逻辑 我肯定会写啊
[05:39] <jackness> nyfair: 你的项目具体的我能做什么呢？
[05:40] <nyfair> iMadper: 我考察过了啊，一部小作坊作品1000日元，胡乱卖也有1000销量，然后再被贩卖商抽2成，还有16w rmb能分
[05:41] <nyfair> iMadper: 大卖就发家了啊，从此走上XXXX的道路
[05:42] <lainme> nyfair: 只会写fortran行么
[05:42] <nyfair> 16k
[05:42] <nyfair> lainme: 有女教师这个属性就足够了XD
[05:43] <iMadper> nyfair: 那还是挺赚了啊
[05:43] <jackness> ny
[05:43] <jackness> nyfair: 带上我混混吧 我会努力的
[05:43] <jackness> iMadper: 你有什么项目我帮你测试啊 比如fwall我都不会弄
[05:44] <gfxmode> nyfair: Pascal的要么？
[05:44] <nyfair> iMadper: 我先去卖份100日元的泡面cg本试水
[05:48] <jackness> nyfair: 你做的是网页游戏吗？不是应该会actionscript吗？
[05:50] <nyfair> jackness：你用actionscript能写出轮舞曲duo这种神作我也不反对
[05:50] <nyfair> 那玩意可是去年销量榜的冠军
[05:50] <nyfair> 出一部游戏就是人生赢家了
[05:51] <nyfair> 那个就是actionscript写的
[05:51] <jackness> 轮舞曲多？没玩过这个游戏
[05:52] <nyfair> http://tieba.baidu.com/p/3387251154
[05:52] <ubrl> nyfair: ⇪ 【撸完水】轮舞曲Duo -夜明けのフォルテシモ-观后感_demonophobia吧_百度贴吧
[05:52] <jackness> 我本来想学actionscript的 可是外面没这样的机构学习 所以才学了java
[05:52] <nyfair> jackness: 自学
[05:52] <wiiw> jackness: 自己看书也行
[05:53] <wiiw> 淘宝买本书，100元够了
[05:53] <nyfair> 好贵，我等穷人只能学学rust，反正那玩意刚出来，没书卖
[05:53] <wiiw> nyfair: 我教你，免费
[05:54] <nyfair> wiiw: 教练，我想学钢琴
[05:54] <jackness> 轮舞曲duo不是游戏 而是漫画吧
[05:54] <wiiw> nyfair: 我也会
[05:54] <nyfair> jackness: 当然是游戏
[05:54] <jackness> wiiw，教我啊 我什么都不会
[05:55] <wiiw> nyfair: 如果你是女的，我手把手教你
[05:55] <jackness> nyfair: 好吧 日本的游戏比较多 我玩得比较少
[05:56] <jackness> 为什么都喜欢教女的
[05:56] <jackness> 真是悲剧啊
[05:58] <nyfair> 蠢问题
[05:58] <jackness> 额。。。。
[05:58] <jackness> 这个里面也是有美女的
[05:58] <jackness> 我听说过
[05:58] <jackness> 本频道有很多美女的
[05:58] <gebjgd> jackness, 因为可以爱爱
[05:59] <jackness> gebjgd: 爱爱要跟有感情的做，不能是个女的就想爱爱啊
[05:59] <gebjgd> jackness, 生物没学好
[06:00] <nyfair> jackness: 生物没学好
[06:00] <wiiw> 重口味啊
[06:00] <nyfair> jackness: 月工了他
[06:00] <jackness> 我的生物学得那么差吗？
[06:01] <jackness> 什么意思 月工？
[06:01] <jackness> 其实美女不需要太多
[06:01] <jackness> 又不是周永康 400个美女
[06:03] <gebjgd> jackness, 等你变成了周永康 你只会一天400个
[06:03] <gebjgd> jackness, 不会比他少
[06:05] <jackness> gebjgd: 额。。。我有信仰，我不会爱太多的女的
[06:06] <gebjgd> jackness, 永康一开始也是这么想的
[06:06] <jackness> gebjgd: 我个人认为 我没那个本事 但是我不认为人人都和永康一个想法 总有明白的人
[06:08] <gebjgd> jackness, 腐败是制度问题
[06:08] <gebjgd> jackness, 不是道德问题
[06:08] <wiiw> 人的大脑是可以被洗的，只要多洗几次
[06:08] <jackness> gebjgd: 人的精力是有限的 过度的纵欲只有害了自己
[06:09] <jackness> gebjgd: 制度问题也是可以改变的，如果共产党下台实行民主的话 我相信腐败可以根除
[06:09] <jackness> 额。。。
[06:10] <wiiw> ▶ uname -a #自己编译的内核
[06:10] <wiiw> Linux ub5 4.0.4 #5 SMP Wed Jun 3 10:45:03 CST 2015 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux
[06:10] <jackness> 洗脑很崩溃
[06:10] <^k^> 新 初学者园地 - 15.04 • 请问下ubuntu安装后的软件在哪里打开 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=470617 昨天转到ubuntu平台，菜鸟一枚，还请各位大神多多指教 zz: 风吹过 — 2015-06-04 14:02
[06:10] <jackness> wiiw: 你在自己编译内核？
[06:10] <wiiw> jackness: 是啊， ubuntu里面
[06:11] <wiiw> 正常启动，没啥特殊选项
[06:11] <wiiw> 扔到 /boot , update-grub 就行
[06:12] <jackness> wiiw: 不懂 你是用的ubuntu14.04吗？
[06:18] <wiiw> jackness: 是啊
[06:19] <wiiw> ▶ cat /etc/issue
[06:19] <wiiw> Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS \n \l
[06:20] <nyfair> 编译linux内核其实挺简单的，肯牺牲自己去pgo编译chromium firefox virtualbox那才叫勇士
[06:21] <nyfair> virtualbox应该可以去掉了，vmware player可以吊打之
[06:25] <wiiw> virtualbox 去不掉，要用QQ
[06:26] <nyfair> wiiw: 卸不掉linux就买水果
[06:26] <^k^> 新 软件推荐 • 用recorddesktop制作了个运行视频 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469404 用recorddesktop制作了个运行视频，辅助安装、运行的解说，但可惜声音滞后于画面 权当聊胜于无吧，也许仍然一头雾水 土豆视频，欢迎拍砖 http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/7jzvPE6y54A/ zz: Jacky286 — 2015-06
[06:26] <^k^> ─> -04 14:26
[06:27] <nyfair> 总有傻逼觉得某某聊天软件没人用是因为国人都用qq，他妈的目前有比qq更好的IM软件?
[06:27] <wiiw> nyfair: 2台电脑+1
[06:27] <jackness> linux也能用virtualbox吗？我都是windows7加vmware
[06:27] <nyfair> skype动不动就卡，facebook更烂
[06:27] <^k^> 新 初学者园地 - 15.04 • 安装php不起作用 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=470618 http://www.linuxidc.com/Linux/2014-10/107924.htm 按照以上方法，进行到测试phpinfo.php的时候浏览器直接显示的是下面的字符。不知道是怎么回事 <?php phpinfo(); ?> zz: 烈焰火凤 — 2015-06-04 14:27
[06:28] <lainme> nyfair: skype网络通话比较好，同一个地点qq经常听不清楚。。
[06:28] <nyfair> lainme: 微信免费电话欢迎你
[06:29] <jackness> skype的好处是拨打国外电话比较便宜
[06:29] <jackness> 国际化
[06:29] <gebjgd> nyfair, 有啊 viber
[06:29] <jackness> qq还是霸主在中国
[06:29] <lainme> 还有。qq在香港经常掉线丢消息。
[06:30] <wiiw> 如果聊天软件接口完全公开
[06:30] <gebjgd> lainme, 别说香港了 墙外其他地方也一样
[06:30] <wiiw> 旺旺，微信，陌陌，QQ，微信，互通
[06:30] <nyfair> 前年我帮一群白皮猪注册剑灵账号，然后他们发觉qq国际版超好用就全都改用qq了
[06:31] <wiiw> 互通或许可以
[06:31] <nyfair> 互通？怎么可能
[06:31] <jackness> qq国际版是不错的 用过
[06:31] <nyfair> 之前msn不是和新浪搞互通么
[06:31] <nyfair> 现在这两个还在？
[06:32] <wiiw> 找了2个残废的人搞互通
[06:33] <wiiw> 如果QQ和微信搞呢？
[06:33] <nyfair> 我推荐个，日本认写的
[06:33] <nyfair> ouroborous
[06:34] <jackness> 不是还有line吗？
[06:34] <nyfair> 匿名算法自带比特币挖矿，没事挂着还能赚点小钱
[06:34] <jackness> 国外不是都用line吗？
[06:34] <nyfair> 扯，就台巴子和棒子
[06:34] <lainme> 台湾人用的多。香港很多用微信
[06:34] <nyfair> 新加坡泰国都是微信
[06:35] <nyfair> 其实我不用微信
[06:35] <lainme> 之前是whatsapp
[06:35] <jackness> 哦 看来还是微信厉害啊
[06:35] <jackness> 不过微信是不是qq的啊？
[06:36] <nyfair> 蠢问题
[06:36] <nyfair> 内部自然是竞争状态
[06:36] <jackness> 额。。。
[06:36] <nyfair> 麻花疼的战略还不清楚？
[06:37] <nyfair> 什么都做两份
[06:37] <jackness> 额。。。。腾讯现在越来月牛逼了
[06:37] <wiiw> 有钱，吃饭也点2份
[06:37] <jackness> 我一个朋友在腾讯工作年薪20万都不止跟我说
[06:38] <jackness> 简直就是暴富
[06:38] <jackness> 日子好过得很
[06:39] <gebjgd> jackness, 20w年薪还多？
[06:40] <gebjgd> jackness, 你也不看看国内的物价
[06:40] * nyfair 年薪20w招聘廉价程序猿
[06:41] <wiiw> 我报名
[06:42] <jackness> gebjgd: 我从来没有那么高的薪水过
[06:42] <jackness> 年薪20万我肯定干
[06:43] <nyfair> jackness: 你能力不足，月薪2k
[06:44] <nyfair> jackness: 不过你要肯卖，年薪50w还是可以的
[06:45] <archl> 我年薪1k
[06:47] <^k^> 新 初学者园地 - 15.04 • 有没有人遇到过奇怪的鼠标光标不显示的问题？ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=470619 如题。登录进入桌面，光标不显示。但鼠标可以移动，点击，右键点击出菜单，等等，只是看不见光标。不知道啥原因，切换到旧内核又是可以的。 麻烦有经验的前辈提
[06:47] <^k^> ─> 供点解决思路，多谢 zz: pilgrim_kevin — 2015-06-04 14:47
[06:51] <jackness> nyfair: 我靠，我只要年薪十万我就好好工作了
[06:52] <jackness> nyfair: 年薪50万 听都不敢听
[06:52] <jackness> nyfair: 我肯卖啊 月薪都是4k
[06:57] <wiiw> 卖肾+1
[06:59] <jackness> 额。。。
[06:59] <jackness> 我有那么惨啊
[06:59] <jackness> 我不是悲剧了吗？
[07:04] <wiiw> http://36kr.com/p/533559.html
[07:04] <ubrl> ⇪ f: Google 隐形眼镜虹膜识别专利获批，未来你会用眼睛开门还是解锁手机？ | 36氪
[07:20] <happyaron> HowIsItGoing: 妹子在哪里
[07:22] <happyaron> HowIsItGoing: 求解救单身狗
[07:22] <HowIsItGoing> happyaron: 哈？
[07:22] <happyaron> HowIsItGoing: 为毛你们都说我有妹子，可我却不知道，哎
[07:22] <happyaron> 11:45 * HowIsItGoing 拜小 dd 妹子壕 happyaron
[07:22] <HowIsItGoing> happyaron: 我听 BuMangHuo 说的
[07:22] <happyaron> ...
[07:28] <wiiw> http://detail.tmall.com/item.htm?spm=a220o.1000855.0.0.D7cikM&id=41245946750
[07:28] <ubrl> wiiw: ⇪ XONIX精准卡路里脉搏运动心跳监测无胸带心率防水电子表男女同款-tmall.com天猫
[07:33] <archl> happyaron, 你不需要解救，生活在妹子花园里，自己不去探索
[07:34] <archl> happyaron, 出花园而不沾 -
[07:34] <ruifeng> :-[
[07:34] <archl> happyaron, 有风范
[07:35] <archl> happyaron, 去采花去 - 快去，从楼上朝下面的妹子喊都有可能
[07:36] * archl 觉得不好 - 这样就不好玩了。。。没有调侃 happyaron 的意思了。
[07:36] * archl 致歉
[07:42] <happyaron> archl: 艰巨的任务交给你了
[07:44] <archl> happyaron, 什么交给我？
[07:44] <happyaron> 15:33 < archl> happyaron, 你不需要解救，生活在妹子花园里，自己不去探索
[07:44] <happyaron> 15:34 < archl> happyaron, 出花园而不沾 -
[07:44] <happyaron> 15:34 < ruifeng> :-[
[07:44] <happyaron> 15:34 < archl> happyaron, 有风范
[07:45] <happyaron> 15:35 < archl> happyaron, 去采花去 - 快去，从楼上朝下面的妹子喊都有可能
[07:45] <archl> happyaron, 你不是在 boyfriend seeking university 么
[07:45] <happyaron> 又如何？
[07:45] <kandu> archl, happyaron, HowIsItGoing: 单身狗求解救
[07:45] <archl> happyaron, 好吧，我知道满学校的女孩子你都看不上。。。
[07:46] <happyaron> archl: 单身狗求解救
[07:46] <happyaron> kandu: 求解救
[07:46] <archl> happyaron, kandu 你们好意思对我一个从没恋爱过的大叔说这些。。。
[07:46] <archl> 。。。
[07:47] <HowIsItGoing> kandu: 要不你跟 happyaron 凑合下吧
[07:48] <archl> kandu, 你也去BJ了？
[07:48] <kandu> archl: bj?
[07:48] <archl> PK BJ 北京的缩写真是奇怪
[07:48] <happyaron> HowIsItGoing: 额我直男
[07:48] <happyaron> HowIsItGoing: 性别男，爱好女
[07:48] * archl 性别男 爱好？
[07:49] <kandu> archl: 没
[07:49] <archl> kandu, 约炮去吧-
[07:49] <kandu> archl: 我考虑逃离杭州，跑泉州去。
[07:49] <kandu> archl: 杭州的环境也太糟了
[07:49] <happyaron> kandu: 据说泉州很适合生存
[07:50] <archl> kandu, happyaron 看这名字有水
[07:50] <kandu> happyaron: 嗯。现在待山里凑合下
[07:50] <kandu> archl: 呃，用不着
[07:50] <archl> kandu, 哦。你有了
[07:51] <archl> 就是有女性朋友，但是单身啊
[07:51] <archl> kandu, 就好象我同桌有一群男的追，但单身一样
[07:52] <kandu> archl: 呃，我肾虚，用不着
[07:52] <archl> kandu, 啥？。。。不懂。。。和肾有什么关系？
[07:55] <archl> kandu, 哦查了查，肾虚是因为太多女人了？
[07:55] <offsec> 擼多了
[07:56] <kandu> archl: 修行多年，寡欲
[07:57] <archl> kandu, 哦。如果身边女孩多了 - 我就寡欲了。
[07:57] * iMadper 提供约炮咨询.
[08:00] <archl> iMadper, 怎么约炮？
[08:01] <huntxu> iMadper: 老斯基老斯基
[08:01] <kandu> iMadper: 不愧是老湿基
[08:01] * iMadper 收费咨询, 不给钱就别问.
[08:01] <offsec> 搬個小板凳來聽課
[08:01] <huntxu> kandu: 泉州好
[08:01] <huntxu> happyaron: 夜店小王子
[08:01] <Guest58665> hehe
[08:02] <Guest58665> ..
[08:03] <kandu> huntxu: 嗯，泉州南音很不错
[08:03] <HowIsItGoing> iMadper: 老斯基老斯基
[08:03] <HowIsItGoing> iMadper: 你比万人斩还厉害
[08:03] * HowIsItGoing 咨询师老司机
[08:03] <huntxu> kandu: 而且离我家近，半小时
[08:03] <huntxu> HowIsItGoing: 拜神CCIE
[08:04] <kandu> huntxu: O_o 好羡慕胡须大帅哥
[08:04] <iMadper> HowIsItGoing: ... ...
[08:04] <huntxu> iMadper: 淡淡是去con还是去旅游的靠
[08:05] <iMadper> huntxu: linux con
[08:06] <iMadper> huntxu: 他是去找援交小弟弟去了.
[08:07] <iMadper> O0XX|Qiong: yooooooo
[08:08] <O0XX|Qiong> iMadper: 红红火火恍恍惚惚哈哈哈哈哈哈哈
[08:08] <iMadper> O0XX|Qiong: 今天电梯里那个妹子太漂亮了啊!
[08:08] <O0XX|Qiong> iMadper: 哪个?
[08:08] <iMadper> O0XX|Qiong: 我一整个下午都没办法安心工作了, 心神不宁
[08:09] <iMadper> O0XX|Qiong: 粉紫色包身连衣裙那个
[08:10] <O0XX|Qiong> iMadper: 出息, 居然喜欢 女孩子..
[08:10] <iMadper> O0XX|Qiong: ... .... .....
[08:10] * nyfair 招聘廉价程序猿
[08:11] <^k^> 新 Ubuntu 14.04 LTS • 「求助」桌面死机自动重启 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=470621 我的电脑装的ubuntu kylin,一次图形桌面死机后我用命令行终端重启桌面。从那次以后我的电脑只要桌面死机就自动重启这是为何啊！！@ zz: azqsx098 — 2015-06-04 16:08
[08:11] <offsec> 程序員在此
[08:13] <^k^> 新 云计算 • 某行业的云计算实现 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=470622 我今年本科四年，玩Linux也差不多有七个年头了。 原本打算在云计算或虚拟化这一行好好发展，花了两年业余时间研究它，折腾许久发现是我一厢情愿，陷入财政危机不说，还背负家人的骂名，造孽得很。
[08:13] <^k^> ─> 辗转反侧许久，后来觉得当人面临生存问题的时候，对那些不能给自己带来收入的代码或 …
[08:13] <huntxu> nyfair: 牛牛求带求包
[08:14] <nyfair> huntxu: 你太牛，我雇不起
[08:14] <huntxu> nyfair: 求包养
[08:16] <iMadper> nyfair: 牛牛求带求包
[08:20] <nyfair> iMadper: 牛牛来投资我的黄油会社
[08:23] <iMadper> nyfair: 我没钱啊
[08:23] <iMadper> nyfair: 要不我给你打工
[08:24] <gfxmode_> 包臂裙
[08:24] <nyfair> iMadper: 你档次太高，我请不动
[08:24] <O0XX|Qiong> gfxmode_: s/臂/逼
[08:25] <gfxmode_> s/臂/皮
[08:25] <nyfair> 这个有没有人来合作？ https://github.com/nyfair/sentire
[08:25] <ubrl> ⇪ f: nyfair/sentire · GitHub
[08:25] <gfxmode_> nyfair: 你的github项目好多，我瞻仰了好久
[08:26] <nyfair> gfxmode_: 这里很多人比我多多了
[08:27] <nyfair> gfxmode_: 你瞧瞧蛋壕蛤蟆onlylove roylez神马的
[08:27] <wiiw> nyfair: 漫画 cg
[08:27] <iMadper> nyfair: 卧槽, rust... 吓尿...
[08:27] <iMadper> nyfair: 不会写啊
[08:28] <nyfair> 新语言写着玩啊
[08:28] <gfxmode_> ok，我去瞧瞧，看有没有可心的项目fork
[08:29] <^k^> 新 影音多媒体 • ubuntu14.04下播放电影画面和声音不匹配的问题 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=470623 Rt，求指教，每次播放电影，画面和声音都不匹配，目前已经试了自带的播放器，smplayer，kmplayer。求指教 zz: 冷木风 — 2015-06-04 16:28
[08:29] <nyfair> gfxmode_: 不看也罢，我渣水平
[08:30] <nyfair> 我以后再也不回答影音问题了
[08:31] <nyfair> 上次跑去某个PT组质问别人为什么噪点那么多，人家回我：”你懂个P，这叫导演风格！“
[08:32] <nyfair> 太牛逼了
[08:33] <nyfair> http://www.jd-bbs.com/thread-5215211-1-1.html
[08:33] <huntxu> nyfair: 牛牛你包我吧
[08:33] <ubrl> nyfair: ⇪ 有些影片就是噪点多，颗粒增强胶片感是导演的风格，不必刻意追求消除，看截图_≡ 家 电 类 ≡_家用电器 (电视机专区)_家电论坛
[08:34] <huntxu> nyfair: 这个 sentire 是什么语言
[08:34] <nyfair> huntxu: mozilla那个新玩具啊
[08:34] <gfxmode_> iMadper: 大侠，敢问你的GitHub地址是多少？
[08:34] <nyfair> rust
[08:34] <happyaron> huntxu: 你是小王子？
[08:34] <iMadper> gfxmode_: 没有.. 我不会写代码啊....
[08:34] <huntxu> nyfair: 太高端，玩不起，等你火了包我就行
[08:34] <happyaron> 你们黑我也是真的用尽了力气
[08:35] <huntxu> happyaron: 我们是你的后援团
[08:35] <gfxmode_> iMadper: 你不是蛋蛋么？
[08:36] <happyaron> huntxu: 不要在这里对单身汪说风凉话嘛
[08:36] * happyaron 马丹接割
[08:38] <huntxu> happyaron: 你单身就和永远18岁一样是个谎言
[08:38] <happyaron> huntxu: 不开玩笑
[08:38] <huntxu> happyaron: 后宫团选不过来？
[08:38] <happyaron> huntxu: 一个都没有
[08:39] <happyaron> huntxu: 是真没有，不信来实地考察，我请饭
[08:40] <huntxu> happyaron: 你的后宫，肯定听你的会躲起来啊
[08:40] <happyaron> huntxu: 嗯嗯，问题是平时也躲起来了我一个都见不到
[08:41] <happyaron> 唉都不信 算啦
[08:41] <huntxu> happyaron: 抓来打屁股
[08:41] <happyaron> 黑吧没所谓
[08:41] <happyaron> chihchun: 糖很好吃
[08:41] <happyaron> chihchun: 顺便求MX5
[08:42] <chihchun> happyaron: 下次在带不同的口味去阿。哈
[08:42] <happyaron> chihchun: 好赞
[08:42] <happyaron> chihchun: 求顺便带MX5 lol
[08:43] <archl> 呃。都不信算了，我到底想干嘛？
[08:43] <chihchun> happyaron: 那个要问李楠兄阿哈哈
[08:43] <gfxmode_> Mozilla不是用的xul么？
[08:44] <happyaron> chihchun: 嗯。。。
[08:53] <O0XX|Qiong> iMadper: 找地方吃个下午茶去?
[08:53] <O0XX|Qiong> iMadper: 饿了
[08:53] <iMadper> O0XX|Qiong: 中
[09:19] <^k^> 新 初学者园地 - 15.04 • 关于 language support http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=470624 更新的时候点了取消，然后再想装语言就不行了。 现在情况是英文显示，Language 下面只剩汉语（中国） 点 install/remove languages 就会出现 Could not install the full language support Transaction failed:Package dependencie
[09:19] <^k^> ─> s cannot be resolved The following packages have unmet dependencies: thunderbird-locate-zh-hans:Depends:thunerbird(>= …
[09:21] <cherrot> OSX下 git ignorecase 貌似是反的。。。
[09:27] * nyfair 招聘廉价程序猿
[09:38] <MangHuo> test
[09:39] <ubrl> MangHuo:点点点. 05:39
[10:02] <BuMangHuo> iMadper: O0XX|Qiong 壕，还下午茶啊
[10:02] * BuMangHuo 一包小浣熊就是下午茶了
[10:03] <^k^> 取新帖 timeout
[10:06] <BuMangHuo> http://news.smzdm.com/p/13809 走起啊 happyaron O0XX|Qiong iMadper HowIsItGoing
[10:06] <ubrl> BuMangHuo: ⇪ 芝麻信用首进签证领域：率先开通新加坡卢森堡极简申请流程_电商_资讯中心_什么值得买
[10:07] <BuMangHuo> 卢森堡要高于750分啊。。。
[10:08] <laxtiz> 今天天气不错阿
[10:21] <happyaron> 接割肥来鸟
[10:52] <HowIsItGoing> happyaron: 壕
[11:42] <^k^> 取新帖 timeout
[13:38] <n00b_galaxy> ÎÒµÄIRC²»Ö§³ÖUFT-8.ÏÔʾȫÊÇÂÒÂë~
[13:38] <^k^> n00b_galaxy say: 我的IRC不支持UFT-8.显示全是乱码~ in GB2312 ? We use UTF-8 !
[13:39] <gfxmode__> gebjgd: 大侠 请问qt里面checkbox控件Click后可不可以设置为:不自动勾选？我试了好久，找不到相应的属性
[13:42] <gfxmode__> gebjgd: https://github.com/gfxmode/commtest
[13:42] <ubrl> ⇪ f: gfxmode/CommTest · GitHub
[13:59] <jackness1> 大家晚上好啊！
[14:01] <^k^> 取新帖 timeout
[14:51] <luobo> 擦，/quit
[15:04] <gebjgd> gfxmode, 看文档
[15:15] <xiaocai> OS: Windows 7 Ultimate (Version 6.1 Build 7601) Service Pack 1, CPU: 4 x Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-3110M CPU @ 2.40GHz @ 2394 MHz 256 Kb Cache, MEM: 3998 Mb, 56% (2184 Mb) free, DISKS: total 298 Gb, 248 Gb free, GFX: Intel(R) HD Graphics 4000 1807.177734375 Mb, SCREEN: 通用即插即用监视器, 1366 x 768 @ 32 bit, AUDIO: IDT High Definition Audio CODEC, UPTIME: 0 d, 4 h, 23 m
[15:17] <gebjgd> xiaocai, 你是干嘛
[15:21] <xiaocai> gebjgd,ûÓùýÕâ¸öadiIRC
[15:21] <^k^> xiaocai say: gebjgd,没用过这个adiIRC in GB2312 ? We use UTF-8 !
[15:21] <gebjgd> xiaocai, 换Linux再来
[15:23] <xiaocai> gebjgd,怎么乱码了
[15:26] <xiaocai> UTF-8了
[15:28] <xiaocai> ^k^,还乱码不
[15:30] <shuaige> 有人说话 没？？
[15:37] <xiaocai> 该睡觉了
[16:00] <jackness> 大家深夜好啊！
[18:54] <jackness> 没有人吗？
[19:04] <gebjgd> jackness, 有
[19:21] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, steam有些游戏 在win上跑不了 需要在Linux上跑
[22:19] <jackness> 大家早上好！
[22:19] <jackness> iMadper, 早上好
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2015-06-04-#ubuntu-app-devel
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[00:54] <ahoneybun> what is cmake?
[07:03] <dholbach> good morning
[07:50] <dholbach> can somebody review https://code.launchpad.net/~dholbach/help-app/FLAC/+merge/261062 please?
[07:55] <dholbach> salut davidcalle
[07:55] <davidcalle> Hey dholbach, how are you?
[07:55] <dholbach> good good - how about yourself? :)
[07:55] <dholbach> davidcalle, can you review https://code.launchpad.net/~dholbach/help-app/FLAC/+merge/261062 :)
[07:57] * dholbach hugs davidcalle
[07:57] <davidcalle> dholbach, I'm fine, short night, but plenty of coffee helps :)
[07:58] <dholbach> davidcalle, did the rest of the family wake you up? :)
[07:59] <davidcalle> dholbach, yeah, Tristan has a difficult night, he only slept well between 6 and 8:30 ;)
[07:59] <dholbach> bah :-/
[07:59] * dholbach hugs davidcalle
[08:00] <dholbach> take a nap together later on :)
[08:00] <davidcalle> dholbach, heh, that's a possibility :)
[08:00] <dholbach> some friends talked me into doing a detox/fasting week, it's like 5 or 6 of us and I'm very slowly finding my way into it - so no coffee for me :)
[08:07] <seb128> dholbach, no eating at all?
[08:08] <dholbach> seb128, just green smoothies
[08:08] <seb128> dholbach, lol
[08:09] <dholbach> I did that a couple of years back already... and it's interesting to note how you're not really hungry, but craving for stuff, like sweet stuff during the day or when you see people eating a pizza or something
[08:09] <dholbach> but it's all right - I feel like I'm coping quite well :)
[09:32] <t1mp> hello
[10:43] <nik90> kalikiana: ping
[11:06] <kalikiana> nik90: pong
[11:07] <nik90> kalikiana: hey, I am hitting a snag while using u1db query as a model in a listview that I like your help on.
[11:08] <nik90> kalikiana: the bug is that when I delete the last document, the listitem that displays it in the listview does not get removed
[11:08] <nik90> https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~nik90/ubuntu-clock-app/new-list-items/view/head:/app/worldclock/UserWorldCityList.qml
[11:09] <nik90> kalikiana: in lp:~nik90/ubuntu-clock-app/new-list-items, lets say you add 2 world cities...even if you delete both the world cities, the last one still remains in the list view and I cannot debug or understand why this happens
[11:10] <nik90> although when I look at the query results, it shows [] when all cities have been deleted
[11:10] <nik90> somehow the listview is bugging out
[11:10] <nik90> any ideas?
[11:15] <kalikiana> nik90: hmm the ListView model is based on the. results yet you delete getting the .documents from the query - not sure if that's it but I'd avoid dual code paths like that
[11:16] <nik90> kalikiana: I agree about avoid dual code paths..but we need the GenericTimeZoneModel c++ plugin to returns different world city timezones..
[11:17] <nik90> deleting the result from GenericTimeZoneModel will only remove the worldcity temporarily since u1db query is the one handling the data
[11:26] <kalikiana> nik90: but you're deleting based on the index from another model
[11:29] <kalikiana> nik90: as opposed to getting the docid from the "u1db" model
[11:29] <nik90> kalikiana: hmm true..I could delete it based on the docID perhaps
[11:32] <nik90> kalikiana: I will try that out after lunch and see if that works
[11:52] <mivoligo> nik90: hi, have you had a chance to ask the right people about that vibration settings?
[13:09] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: i fixed all your remarks in the keyboard navigation branch. the failing test was really tricky, took me three hours to actually figure out what it was. Can i trust CI to run the AP test for me or should I go grab a coffee and let the entire suite run ?
[13:12] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, CI for webbrowser-app is broken these days (should be fixed when we sync back changes from wily into vivid, but we have to wait for the vivid-overlay freeze to be over)
[13:12] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, so please run the suite manually
[13:13] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: ok
[13:13] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, note that you can run it with autopilot3-sandbox-run, that will allow you doing other things while the tests run in a nested X server
[13:13] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: oh, that's cool. never knew i could do that. big life changer, thanks for pointing it out
[13:14] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, yeah, I discovered it myself not so long ago, big life changer indeed
[14:09] <nerochiaro> bfiller: trying to join but get bounced by hangouts
[14:19] <DS-McGuire> dholbach, I think this is better: http://imgur.com/l6lnmqj
[14:22] <dholbach> ah yes, that looks great
[14:22] <dholbach> do you think you could drop a mail to the ubuntu-phone mailing list or ask on G+ for feedback?
[14:22] <dholbach> just so we get an idea?
[14:22] <dholbach> I need to relocate, brb
[14:28] <sverzegnassi> +1 for the icon! I like it!
[14:32] <DS-McGuire> I will do that now!
[14:34] <nik90> mivoligo: Yes I asked SDK developers kalikiana about the SDK components being connected to the "Enable Other Vibrations" settings in the systems settings app. It has been connected for a while it seems.
[14:34] <nik90> kalikiana: I reason I asked you yesterday ^^ is because that settings option doesn't seem to have any effect on apps.
[14:35] <DS-McGuire> https://plus.google.com/112369892362587560507/posts/a3iep1CvoVY
[14:35] <nik90> kalikiana: if for instance you disable "Enable other vibrations" and then use a AbstractButton in an app, it still vibrates when you press it.
[14:36] <nik90> mivoligo: lets discuss this with kalikiana before filing a bug against the appropriate package
[14:37] <nik90> DS-McGuire: that looks good. Have you tested it on Unity8 itself to see how it looks in the app scope?
[14:47] <svenbo> Hello! Can sombeone help me installing UCS? I still have some trouble using it.
[14:53] <nik90> svenbo: Hi there, what trouble are you facing when installing UCS?
[14:53] <nik90> svenbo: Did you add the PPA and install ucs?
[15:03] <DS-McGuire> Here is the fixed version: http://imgur.com/DnagBAv, nik90 I haven't. I have no way of doing so.
[15:16] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: tests that work normally with autopilot fail on the sandbox run
[15:16] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, how do they fail?
[15:20] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: in a very "normal" way, like some strings are not as expected, etc.
[15:20] <nik90> DS-McGuire: The icon size ratio seems better now
[15:20] <DS-McGuire> nik90, I think so too, I am glad someone pointed it out.
[15:21] <nik90> DS-McGuire: How do you test the help app? Do you run it on your desktop? I just want to see if I can run it via QtCreator on my phone
[15:21] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: like this http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11567560/
[15:21] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: same tests succeeds when ran normally from cmd line
[15:21] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, have you tried re-running them (in the sandbox runner) individually, do they fail consistently?
[15:22] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, and do they fail in trunk too?
[15:22] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: they don't exist in trunk
[15:22] <oSoMoN> ah, right
[15:22] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: let me try running them indiviually
[15:23] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: fail individually too
[15:23] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, could it be that the sandboxed runner has issues with key combinations like Ctrl+L ? I suggest you ask someone from the autopilot dev team, it might be a known bug
[15:24] <oSoMoN> (that would be unfortunate, but at least it would allow us to discard a bug in the code)
[15:25] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, the flake8 test is failing on your branch
[15:25] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: i need to set commit hooks that check flake8, i keep forgetting
[15:26] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: pushed fix
[15:27] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: asking elopio in ci-eng
[15:27] <DS-McGuire> nik90, Do you have the latest branch? If you do follow the instructions in the "Hacking" file. I couldn't get it to run in the QT creator.
[15:29] <nik90> DS-McGuire, dholbach: I am getting the following error when trying to run on phone via QTC,
[15:29] <nik90> Loading module: 'libubuntu_application_api_touch_mirclient.so.2.9.0'
[15:29] <nik90> /usr/bin/ubuntu-html5-app-launcher: unrecognized option '--www=www'
[15:29] <nik90> /usr/bin/ubuntu-html5-app-launcher: unrecognized option '--inspector'
[15:29] <nik90> Ignoring argument: "$@"
[15:29] <nik90> WWW folder not found or not a proper directory: "/opt/click.ubuntu.com/help.ubuntucoredev/0.4/www"
[15:29] <nik90> I followed the HACKING guide
[15:31] <popey> nik90: Exec=webapp-container $@ www/index.html
[15:31] <popey> i use that now, was told that's the way to do it
[15:31] <nik90> popey: ah ok..will modify the desktop file and try now
[15:33] <nik90> hmm strange I get permission errors when I try running after http://paste.ubuntu.com/11567885/
[15:34] <dholbach> nik90, did you use 'make launch' or something like that?
[15:34] <dholbach> nik90, which release are you on?
[15:34] <nik90> dholbach: I am trying this out on Trusty. I first did "make app" and then open the file in QtC where I got the "WWW folder not found error"...
[15:34] <nik90> dholbach: then I tried "make launch" before finally trying popey's suggestion
[15:35] <nik90> when I started getting the permission error
[15:35] <dholbach> ah, maybe trusty is the problem :-/
[15:35] <dholbach> alexabreu, dbarth_: would the following be a problem that comes from using trusty?
[15:35] <dholbach> /usr/bin/ubuntu-html5-app-launcher: unrecognized option '--www=www'
[15:35] <dholbach> /usr/bin/ubuntu-html5-app-launcher: unrecognized option '--inspector'
[15:35] <nik90> dholbach: but since I use QtC doesn't it use the chroots for building and installing on phone?
[15:35] <dholbach> nik90, which relevant PPAs do you use?
[15:36] <alexabreu> dholbach, not at all, ... they come from qtubuntu
[15:36] <nik90> dholbach: the standard sdk ppa and also the core-apps-ppa/collection that I read in the HACKING guide
[15:36] <alexabreu> dholbach, I have a fix for them, but they should be considered no-ops
[15:36] <alexabreu> dholbach, I have to ping some guys for a review for that
[15:37] <nik90> dholbach: no worries, I will check it out on a vivid install as well
[15:37] <rpadovani> popey, mzanetti no reminders meeting today? :-)
[15:37] <dholbach> nik90, I never used QtC for hacking on the help-app - do you get the same issues when you run everything on the terminal?
[15:37] <dholbach> alexabreu, do you have a link for that?
[15:38] <alexabreu> dholbach, https://bugs.launchpad.net/platform-api/+bug/1244616
[15:38] <alexabreu> dholbach, its an oldie, ... I have to re MR it
[15:38] <nik90> dholbach: "make click" seems to have built a 0.4 click..I will try installing and running it on the phone.
[15:38] <nik90> dholbach: but "make launch" opened the app on my trusty desktop though
[15:38] <nik90> although with really old tab designs
[15:38] <popey> rpadovani: ooh, sorry, was afk
[15:38] <dholbach> alexabreu, cool
[15:39] <dholbach> nik90, maybe we need to change something to make it work in QtC?
[15:40] <dholbach> alexabreu, thanks a lot for looking into it
[15:40] <popey> rpadovani: http://people.canonical.com/~alan/reminders/com.ubuntu.reminders_0.5.448_armhf.click
[15:40] <nik90> dholbach: could be a trusty issue since the click package that I built using "make click" fails to run on the phone..similar to the QtC run
[15:40] <alexabreu> dholbach, this is quite often a source of confusion
[15:40] <dholbach> nik90, hum........
[15:41] <mzanetti> rpadovani, popey, I'm on hols today. I think there's another branch to be reviewed. Fixing a critical. Could go into the release IMO. Other than that, I think we need translations.
[15:41] <popey> ah okay
[15:41] <dholbach> nik90, any error messages when you run 'make click'? can you pastebin?
[15:41] <popey> mzanetti: https://code.launchpad.net/~mzanetti/reminders-app/store-local-resources-in-infofile/+merge/260990
[15:41] <popey> that one?
[15:41] <mzanetti> popey, yes
[15:41] <nik90> dholbach: let me branch it again and start fresh without involving qtc..one min
[15:41] <popey> mzanetti: ok, go back to holiday, I'll deal with it. thanks :)
[15:42] <dholbach> thanks nik90
[15:44] <nik90> dholbach: with a fresh branch, running "make app && make click", I am able to install and run on the phone properly. So no modifications to the desktop file
[15:45] <dholbach> <3
[15:45] <dholbach> maybe we need a bug to make it work properly with the QtC
[15:45] <nik90> DS-McGuire: give me a min to try out your new icon and paste a screenshot of it in the app scope
[15:45] <nik90> dholbach: yes, I will report it in a few mins once I get the necessary logs to help debug it.
[15:46] <dholbach> thanks a bunch
[15:46] <nik90> np
[15:47] <nik90> dholbach: quick question, where do I place the app icon so that it gets picked up?
[15:47] <dholbach> nik90, ./static/app/help.svg
[15:48] <nik90> ah thnx
[17:23] <DS-McGuire> nik90, Any luck?
[17:29] <nik90> DS-McGuire: I installed it, but it still uses the old icon for some reason
[17:29] <nik90> DS-McGuire: can you send me the svg file? I used the png file from the imgur link
[17:35] <DS-McGuire> Sure. How should I send it?
[17:35] <DS-McGuire> nik90, ^^^
[17:36] <nik90> DS-McGuire: dropbox share or just an email I guess to [email protected]
[17:36] <DS-McGuire> nik90, I'll email it now.
[17:37] <nik90> thnx
[17:39] <DS-McGuire> nik90, Do you want it cropped into the ubuntu shape or not? I forget which needs to be used for the icon.
[17:39] <DS-McGuire> I will just send both in fact.
[17:40] <nik90> DS-McGuire: the one without the ubuntu shape..Unity8 will automatically crop it
[17:40] <DS-McGuire> nik90, That's what I thought... ;)
[17:45] <nik90> DS-McGuire: they seem to be empty svg files
[17:46] <DS-McGuire> nik90, Open them in inkscape? I don't think IOG likes svgs...?
[17:46] * nik90 tries
[17:47] <nik90> yeah you're right..strange
[17:49] <nik90> DS-McGuire: hmm ..even unity8 also displays an empty icon..despite me cross-checking the svg file on inkscape
[17:50] <DS-McGuire> nik90, I must have done something wrong. I am going to make some food and I will see what's up when I get back. If you get it working let me know. :)
[17:50] <nik90> DS-McGuire: same..need to grab dinner :)
[17:50] <nik90> DS-McGuire: be back in an hour
[17:50] <DS-McGuire> o/ nik90
[17:50] <nik90> o/
[18:11] <nik90> balloons: Did you rerun certain clock app mps on vivid? http://91.189.93.70:8080/job/ubuntu-clock-app-vivid-amd64-ci/7/console
[18:15] <balloons> nik90,oi
[18:16] <balloons> nik90, vivid gave ci trouble, so ap tests are disabled for now. Your stuff should pass jenkins
[18:32] <dkessel> does any know how to set the touch emulator to landscape mode, so one can test tablet apps?
[18:37] <DanChapman> dkessel try Ctrl+F12
[18:38] <balloons> dkessel, no idea.. never tried actually, heh
[18:38] <DanChapman> dkessel: i just found https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Emulator#Keyboard_Commands
[18:39] <dkessel> DanChapman: yup, google tries to lead me there, too... however that wiki page always generates a HTTP 500 error for me :/
[18:40] <dkessel> let's see if that changes anything for my app
[18:40] <DanChapman> dkessel: http://i.imgur.com/z5tTufE.png :-D
[18:41] <dkessel> perfect, ty DanChapman :)
[18:41] <DanChapman> np
[18:41] <dkessel> however, maybe i need to implement something in the QML app so it properly gets rotated
[18:49] <dkessel> DanChapman: i don't think those orientation keyboard shortcuts (the ones with Ctrl) do anything anymore
[18:49] <dkessel> i would except the default news app to properly react to landscape mode. but i could be wrong, too...
[18:57] <DS-McGuire> nik90, I have fixed the issue :)
[18:57] <DS-McGuire> Resending the image now
[20:06] <mivoligo> nik90: thanks for taking care of the issue :)
[20:21] <svenbo_> Can somebody explain me how to use the PageWithBottomEdge? I want to change the headerstate of the page when the BottomEdge is opened.
[20:21] <nik90> svenbo_: Did you read the documentation of the UCS website for the PageWithBottomEdge?
[20:22] <svenbo_> http://ubuntu-component-store.readthedocs.org/en/latest/_components/pagewithbottomedge.html#property-documentation That one?
[20:22] <nik90> svenbo_: yes
[20:22] <svenbo_> Yes, I did. I tried to use bottomEdgeReleased
[20:23] <nik90> svenbo_: renatu is the person who created that component. May be he can help
[20:24] <svenbo_> PageWithBottomEdge {
[20:24] <nik90> DS-McGuire: https://imgur.com/rqADFrm
[20:24] <DS-McGuire> nik90, Do you think that looks good?
[20:25] <DS-McGuire> Thanks for the screen shot by the way.
[20:25] <nik90> DS-McGuire: I am comparing it with other app icons atm
[20:25] <DS-McGuire> Sure :D
[20:28] <nik90> DS-McGuire: I think the icon size can grow a tiny bit more to make it more legible..if the icon detail is high, it may be missed out at small sizes
[20:29] <nik90> DS-McGuire: for instance the tiny border ropes for instance are barely visible unless I really focus on them
[20:29] <nik90> but the colors and the idea seems good
[20:30] <DS-McGuire> nik90, I can do that. I am always trying to stick to the ubuntu guidelines when designing stuff however if need be I can not stick to them.
[20:31] <nik90> DS-McGuire: may be you can leave the tyre size the same and just increase the size of the boundary ropes to make them slightly more apparent
[20:32] <nik90> DS-McGuire: like http://www.psdgraphics.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/help-icon.jpg for instance
[20:33] <nik90> balloons: I know for a fact that clock app AP tests fail due to some upstream AP bugs after the transition to the 15.04 framework. Is it still wise to merge them?
[20:34] <DS-McGuire> nik90, I will take a look at it. Increasing the entire ring is the easiest to do. Those ropes are actually bars and the ring is supposed to look like it sits on it.
[20:35] <nik90> balloons: for instance ahayzen did some AP adjustments in the music app https://code.launchpad.net/~ahayzen/music-app/refactor-bump-framework-1504/+merge/258126 which I am unable to bring over to the clock app
[20:35] <nik90> balloons: which is also the reason for AP tests are failing in the MPs I proposed
[20:35] <nik90> DS-McGuire: ah ok
[20:36] <DS-McGuire> nik90, I will take a look at it though. I have my membership meeting coming up in 25 minutes :)
[20:36] <nik90> DS-McGuire: oooh awesome..good luck
[20:36] <DS-McGuire> nik90, Thanks :)
[20:37] <balloons> nik90, well, since we sadly can't guarantee stability, I guess you can merge. Ideally you wouldn't knowingly merge things that break; but then again, you won't be holding this feature based on testing issues would you?
[20:38] <nik90> balloons: ideally I wouldn't but I have been taught to not merge stuff that fail AP tests :) hence the concern
[20:48] <renatu> svenbo_, try change it on "onActiveChanged" from bottom edge page
[20:51] <nik90> mzanetti: hey you updated Fahrplan in the store. Nice!
[20:52] <nik90> mzanetti: one thing though, you might want to post updated screenshots and also ensure the screenshots interfaces are in English to make it appear applicable to everyone
[21:01] <mzanetti> nik90, fancy creating some screenshots?
[21:01] <nik90> mzanetti: my pleasure ;) give me a few minutes
[21:02] <balloons> nik90, it's not great, but it's the decision that has been undertaken. If you know it breaks the tests I
[21:02] <balloons> it's in your hands whether or not you want to merge it. We'll work on getting things running again, somehow, soon
[21:04] <nik90> balloons: ack. Either way I cannot merge my MPs until after popey pushes a clock app update to the store which should happen soon after OTA-4 is released. So I will try my best to get those AP issues resolved before making the decision to merge or not.
[21:05] <nik90> balloons: Personally after working with QA for some time now, I feel really guilty to go ahead with the merge with failing AP tests ;) .. I hate you guys :P
[21:06] <balloons> nik90, mission accomplished!
[21:07] * balloons takes a picture
[21:07] <nik90> haha
[21:10] <nik90> mzanetti: sent to your canonical email
[21:20] <mzanetti> nik90, thanks
[21:22] <nik90> mzanetti: how is that bahne.de has some really strange warning messages like "On-Time: Fire-fighters' operations on railway property"..never seen such dramatic msgs on 9292ov.nl service
[21:22] <mzanetti> lol. I haven't seen them before on bahn.de either
[21:23] <nik90> :)
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[03:16] <hallyn> ok so just as lxc ships one lxc-net script which is called by all init scripts, i'd like to do the same for qemu
[03:16] <hallyn> but where should that script go?
[03:16] <hallyn> lxc places it into /usr/lib/x86-64-gnu/lxc/
[07:03] <dholbach> good morning
[07:03] <LocutusOfBorg1> hi dholbach :)
[07:04] <dholbach> hi LocutusOfBorg1
[07:35] <mardy> diwic: hi! It's about the front jack detection in my GA motherboard, we exchanged a couple of mails some week ago; please tell me when you have a minute
[07:41] <diwic> mardy, pong
[07:41] <mardy> diwic: so, after all it seems that the jack detection is fuzzy even in my machine
[07:42] <diwic> mardy, okay
[07:42] <mardy> diwic: more often than not, when I insert the headphones in the front panel, the headphones do not appear in the system settings -> sound panel
[07:43] <mardy> diwic: I need to run some more tests, but I've the feeling that if I boot my PC with the headphones in, then they are detected (but if I then remove them and reinsert them, they might go undetected again)
[07:45] <diwic> mardy, IIRC in some state some people have seen the jack detection go on and off repeatedly, but I'm not sure if that is when the headphone is plugged in or unplugged
[07:45] <mardy> diwic: also, I feel that the headset detection starts working rather reliably sometimes, probably if I play with the card/alsa in a certain way
[07:46] <mardy> diwic: well, my problem is that sometimes the headphones are in but they are not detected; it never happened to me that it detected non-existing headphones
[07:48] <mardy> diwic: do you have a bug #, for the issue your patch fixed?
[07:49] <diwic> mardy, pad.lv/1248116
[08:12] <mardy> diwic: so, my problem is that while I insert the headphones, I see them quickly appearing and disappearing a few times in the System Settings -> Sound panel
[08:13] <mardy> diwic: sometimes the final state is that they are correctly detected, sometimes they aren't
[08:13] <mardy> diwic: it seems to be rather random
[08:14] <diwic> mardy, so your jack detection is not reliable, and therefore the original patch makes sense to keep for you as well?
[08:14] <mardy> diwic: but the flakyness is only while I insert the headspeakers: once the card/driver has decided if it wants to see them or not, the state won't change
[08:15] <mardy> diwic: no, I prefer to run with model=nofixup, and if the headphones are not detected, I pull them out and try again
[08:16] <mardy> diwic: because I get the annoying audio clicks only while inserting the jack; before and after that, the sound is always stable
[08:16] <diwic> mardy, ok. Maybe this behaviour is varying between individual motherboard units of the exact same model and revision
[12:01] <mdeslaur> FYI, I've just uploaded dash to wily with a privilege dropping patch. If anyone gets some sort of regression with it, let me know.
[12:33] <hallyn> stgraber: ok for qemu's kvm init script i intend to put the body of it under /usr/share/qemu/init (calling it from the sysv, systemd, and upstart jobs). is thatan ok place?
[12:34] <hallyn> (lxc places them under /usr/lib/x86-64-linux-gnu/ but that seems a little unorthodox)
[12:34] <hallyn> (and hard to get right in the qemu build system)
[14:31] <hallyn> do we assume that /usr/share is mounted by runlevel2? i assume so...
[14:42] <stgraber> hallyn: yep, that seems fine.
[14:42] <hallyn> cool, thanks. bunch of testing of course required (as i'm also merging the two scripts)
[14:43] <hallyn> hm, i wonder if i should move the init script to qemu-system-common, since it should error out cleanly on other arches anyway
[15:01] <teward> hardware-kernel interaction question for someone if you've got a few moments. A question on Ask Ubuntu was created saying they want to enable "USB Charge While Off" on their laptop that supposedly supports it. As I understand the feature, that's controlled at the hardware / BIOS level, not the kernel. Am I wrong on that? Sorry if the wrong location for this...
[15:01] <teward> o
[15:01] <teward> i'm not a kernel expert, nor a hardware expert, hence the question
[15:03] <dobey> teward: yeah, that is a hardware thing.
[15:04] <teward> dobey: mind if I link you to the bug and the question and the discussion then for your two cents?
[15:04] <teward> since i'm obviously not an expert
[15:04] <teward> dobey: because apparently Sony says its enabled via "Windows Power Management" so thereby the equivalent would be the kernel in Ubuntu
[15:05] <dobey> i mean, i'm not a kernel developer/expert either, but it doesn't take a PhD to see that the kernel can't control hardware while the kernel isn't running
[15:05] <teward> but as I understand that kind of hardware feature that's a hardware-control-level feature, NOT something that can just be toggled by the kernel.
[15:05] <teward> dobey: indeed.
[15:05] <teward> dobey: would anyone on the kernel team have any ideas on this?
[15:05] <teward> (and should I go poke them)
[15:05] <dobey> well, maybe sony implemented it in such a way that they require you to configure it within windows itself
[15:06] <dobey> which would mean that you could theoretically chagne the same setting in ubuntu, if sony provided the driver to do so
[15:06] <dobey> teward: you can ask in #ubuntu-kernel i guess
[15:06] <teward> i might, thanks
[15:07] <teward> (doesn't take a kernel expert, though, to determine the hardware has to control things when the system is off xd)
[15:07] <dobey> my guess is sony won't support ubuntu, and you'll need to dual boot to be able to change that setting in windows
[15:07] <teward> dobey: that's my guess as well
[15:50] <bdmurray> seb128: Your ubuntu-settings upload to vivid seems to remove a previous fix. https://launchpadlibrarian.net/208087396/ubuntu-settings_15.04.2_15.04.3.diff.gz
[15:53] <seb128> bdmurray, ok, thanks for spotting it, can you reject it? I'm going to fix it
[15:55] <bdmurray> seb128: done
[16:00] <seb128> bdmurray, thanks
[21:03] * hallyn peeks in looking for doko
[22:58] <Riddell> who knows why this test failure happened? https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/wily-adt-kio/ARCH=amd64,label=adt/15/console
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2015-06-04-#ubuntu-installer
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[16:12] <bauxit> hy
[16:13] <bauxit> do you know something wrong with ubiquity or just me
[16:13] <bauxit> http://s12.postimg.org/3lo2bhqjg/Screenshot_from_2015_06_04_15_55_14.jpg
[16:13] <bauxit> i cant install mint
[16:50] <cyphermox> bauxit: that reminds me of another bug I saw before, but I'm not sure why it's doing this
[16:50] <cyphermox> any partitions already on that disk?
[16:51] <bauxit> yes
[16:51] <bauxit> 3 partition
[16:52] <bauxit> but i try with full clean hdd and i give same error
[16:52] <bauxit> btw
[16:53] <bauxit> text mode install never give backk
[16:53] <bauxit> ?
[16:54] <bauxit> i understand some people like brainless clicking but i think its not good way
[16:55] <bauxit> maybe with option (expert/basic) install
[16:55] <bauxit> expert with text mode and basic with gui
[16:55] <bauxit> what do you think?
[16:56] <bauxit> i hope this bug will be fix soon
[16:57] <bauxit> if i can help you i do
[16:57] <bauxit> but i'm beginner :)
[16:57] <bauxit> with same english skill :)
[17:01] <cjwatson> bauxit: Ubuntu has a text mode installer (http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/; despite the name, doesn't have to be netbooted, you can burn the mini.iso to a CD or write it to a USB stick and go from there). However, we don't support Linux Mint here; you'll have to ask them if they have a similar facility.
[17:02] <bauxit> ok but i burn to usb disk and i boot from usb
[17:02] <bauxit> thans for help
[17:02] <bauxit> *stick
[17:02] <bauxit> ^^
[17:05] <bauxit> well i try it thanks
[17:05] <bauxit> i hope i can do it
[17:06] <bauxit> sorry for disturb
[17:07] <cyphermox> cjwatson: thanks.
[18:55] <infinity> cjwatson: Hey, thanks for reminding me that netboot is missing wily. :P
[19:02] <cjwatson> infinity: yw :)
[19:03] <infinity> All fixed.
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2015-06-04-#ubuntu-ops
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[09:49] <k1l_> where do all the people who cant afford a dvd or usb pendrive get their macs from?
[09:51] <Myrtti> parents give their children computers they can 'trust' and get support with easily and predictably
[09:51] <Myrtti> schools/universities might give them to their students
[09:51] <Myrtti> other handmedowns
[10:40] <Tm_T> I haven't bought computer or phone for 10 years now
[15:31] <tonyyarusso> k1l_: I can afford a DVD, but I'm still annoyed by the hassle of finding one when I have hundreds of CD-Rs sitting around still.
[15:32] <Myrtti> we had to buy a small spindle of CD-R's for the disco :-| dunno what to do with them now tbh
[15:37] <tonyyarusso> I was thinking I might be able to set up something that would do backups of non-photo-non-video documents to CD for a while or something.
[15:57] <Myrtti> well, I had to buy a DVD-drive too for those CD's. I wonder where I've put it.
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2015-06-04-#bzr
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[22:08] <grepper> This is probably offtopic, but can I ask a quilt question here? I mistakenly used 'quilt add <patch>' instead of 'new' and quilt added it the top patch. How can I undo that?
[22:48] <grepper> ah, quilt remove <patch>, duh
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2015-06-04-#ubuntu-cm
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[06:16] <ariabbas> .
[13:13] <ariabbas> .
[13:18] <coco1> ..
[17:21] <ariabbas> .
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2015-06-04-#launchpad
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[08:18] <zyga> cjwatson: hi, looking at https://code.launchpad.net/~zyga/guacamole/+git/guacamole I see the two git-clone URLs there, are they exposed anywhere in the API?
[08:19] <zyga> cjwatson: or should I use git_repository.unique_name and derive the URL myself?
[09:13] <cjwatson> zyga: They're not exported. Perhaps it would be convenient if they were; feel free to file a bug (with rationale).
[09:35] <zyga> cjwatson: thanks for confirming that!
[09:35] <zyga> cjwatson: I'm working on tarmac git support now
[09:40] <cjwatson> zyga: I saw, thanks! Will reply to your mail shortly
[09:40] <zyga> cjwatson: thanks
[09:42] <cjwatson> Deriving from git_repository.unique_name is probably workable, although it won't be quite the same as the UI shows you for any repository that's a default.
[09:42] <cjwatson> But if all you need is *a* valid URL then it would be close enough.
[09:50] <wgrant> We should indeed export the URLs, but the properties need renaming first.
[09:50] <wgrant> eg. anon_url sounds like the sensible default for anonymous access, but it's actually legacy git://
[09:51] <cjwatson> Yeah, made sense in my head in March.
[09:52] <wgrant> I have some changes around that in my local rework of GitRepository:+index.
[09:52] <wgrant> I might rename and export them on the way.
[09:52] <cjwatson> git:// probably doesn't need to be exported at all.
[09:52] <cjwatson> git+ssh:// and https:// would be sufficient.
[09:54] <cjwatson> wgrant: Have you thought of any better names for landing_candidates et al? Otherwise I'm inclined to export the current names on the grounds that Tarmac will need them and it's probably least confusing there for them to match Bazaar.
[09:55] <wgrant> shuf -n 2 /usr/share/dict/words says extrusions_begun, which is probably less confusing than landing_candidates.
[09:56] <cjwatson> :-P
[09:56] <wgrant> The current names aren't obviously worse than the Bazaar equivalents, are they?
[09:57] <wgrant> Apart from the repo vs branch stuff, nothing has changed terribly.
[09:57] <cjwatson> The current names are identical to the Bazaar equivalents.
[09:57] <wgrant> Right, but there's no real reason we have to change them.
[09:57] <wgrant> That I can recall.
[09:57] <cjwatson> That was my thought.
[09:57] <cjwatson> I mean, they suck but they can suck equally.
[09:57] <wgrant> It was just a "this bit of Bazaar codehosting is stupid, let's see if we can do it better before stabilising the API"
[09:57] <wgrant> And at this point I think the answer is no.
[09:58] <cjwatson> Like most things that talk about sources and targets etc., it's very easy to get into directional confusion.
[09:58] <wgrant> Yeah
[09:58] <cjwatson> Especially for this kind of thing where it's really "merge proposals for which this branch etc. is the source"
[09:58] <wgrant> The least confusing thing might almost be to have lp.merge_proposals...
[09:59] <wgrant> But exporting the existing properties works.
[10:03] <cjwatson> lp.merge_proposals has the nice property that we could introduce it later without too much clutter, indeed.
[11:52] <Odd_Bloke> I keep getting errors when trying to comment on https://code.launchpad.net/~daniel-thewatkins/charms/trusty/ubuntu-repository-cache/update_charm-helpers/+merge/260956
[11:52] <Odd_Bloke> Specifically, "Server error, please contact an administrator."
[11:52] <Odd_Bloke> So consider yourselves contacted. :p
[11:52] <wgrant> Yep, we're investigating a strange load issue with the master DB server.
[11:52] <wgrant> Everything relating to commenting just.. hangs.
[11:53] <Odd_Bloke> Cool.
[11:54] <Odd_Bloke> Oh, all the comments just got added at the same time!
[11:58] <wgrant> Odd_Bloke: Yep, it's all unstuck now. Let us know if you see any more issues.
[12:13] <grepper> I was synching my ppa with a number of upstream changes in the same branch I was using, but it fails upload with dput because of the changes to the $project_$version.orig.tar.gz with the same name. What is the proper way to do this? Using debian/patches and the previous *orig.tar.gz ?
[12:18] <zyga> grepper: .orig.tar.gz are used for upstream projects (typically upstream releases)
[12:19] <zyga> grepper: for that you should keep the single, unchanged orig.tar.gz and upload new debian tarball that may contain patches
[12:19] <zyga> grepper: if that is your own project and you are working on packaging and development at the same time, you can switch to a native debian package, in that way you don't have .orig.tar.gz, just .tar.gz that is uploaded each time
[12:19] <zyga> grepper: still you need to make sure the version is always changed
[12:20] <zyga> grepper: for development you should have a sbuild installation locally as that is much faster and allows you to iterate without waiting for ppa builds or for upload queue to reach your project
[12:21] <grepper> zyga: so I should have left the orig.tar.gz unchanged and used debian/patches ? (assuming I don't want to mess with sbuild right now)
[12:21] <zyga> grepper: yes
[12:21] <zyga> grepper: use quilt to manage debian/patches
[12:22] <zyga> grepper: and do setup sbuild, it takes around 10 minutes, just follow the wiki instructions
[12:22] <zyga> grepper: and then each test is 'sbuild' in the source directory
[12:22] <zyga> grepper: https://wiki.debian.org/sbuild
[12:23] <grepper> okay, thanks. That's actually the way I tried the 1st time, but ran into problems and thought why not just use the new upstream tarball and sync that. Obviously the wrong choice :(
[12:23] <grepper> I will have a look a sbuild as it is my project as well
[12:23] <cjwatson> If there's a new upstream tarball, you should use it, but it needs to have a new version number.
[12:23] <zyga> grepper: if you run into any issues just ask
[12:24] <cjwatson> You can't just republish a new thing with the same version. That's (a) forbidden by LP (b) dreadful practice anyway
[12:24] <grepper> oh, cjwatson can I just use something like tovid_0.35.2.orig.tar.gz --> tovid_0.35.2-1.orig.tar.gz ?
[12:25] <cjwatson> Not quite like that. Has tovid upstream released a new tarball?
[12:25] <grepper> yes, its a release this time
[12:25] <cjwatson> What is the new upstream version number?
[12:25] <zyga> grepper: 0.35.2 and 0.35.2-1 are quire different, do you know what the difference is?
[12:25] <cjwatson> Oh. Do you mean that you previously uploaded 0.35.2 but it wasn't the real upstream release?
[12:25] <grepper> yes
[12:25] <cjwatson> That was very naughty of you.
[12:26] <grepper> bad move apparently
[12:26] <cjwatson> I would do 0.35.2+real then
[12:26] <grepper> it was 0.35.2 branch ...
[12:26] <cjwatson> Next time, use 0.35.2~20150604
[12:26] <cjwatson> Or similar
[12:26] <grepper> okay
[12:26] <cjwatson> That's the sort of form you'd use for prereleases
[12:26] * zyga feels PPAs should have a separate "tarball namespace" from the rest, if that's not the case already
[12:26] <cjwatson> zyga: They do, mostly.
[12:27] <cjwatson> zyga: One way round. Uploads to PPAs check the main distribution archive, but not vice versa.
[12:27] <zyga> cjwatson: ah, so I cannot ruin someone's day by uploading 'linux-4.2.orig.tar.gz' by any chance?
[12:27] <cjwatson> Correct, you can only ruin your own.
[12:27] <zyga> ah, that's very sensible then
[12:28] <grepper> zyga: not exactly, I assume it is an patch level
[12:28] <cjwatson> grepper: So you probably want to make the full package version number be 0.35.2+real-1, and rename the real upstream 0.35.2 release to tovid_0.35.2+real.orig.tar.gz
[12:29] <zyga> grepper: 0.35.2 is the version of upstream package _or_ the version of a debian-native package (that doesn't ever have the -1 -2 -3 versions)
[12:29] <zyga> grepper: whereas 0.35.2-1 is the version number of the debian package, comprised of the upstream version and the debian version, separated by '-'
[12:29] <zyga> grepper: most of the time you'll see the 1.2.3-1 type of versions
[12:29] <grepper> ah, okay, so that was the wrong approch
[12:29] <zyga> grepper: the point is that you cannot freely move from one to another
[12:30] <zyga> grepper: and it's generally recommended to use non-native packages (those that have the debian version separate)
[12:31] <grepper> so if I use 0.35.2+real-1 the build system will automatically know to use 0.35.2+real.orig.tar.gz ? Just by using the changelog ?
[12:31] <cjwatson> Correct.
[12:31] <grepper> or do I need to rename the directory
[12:31] <grepper> okay
[12:31] <cjwatson> The directory name isn't particularly important.
[12:31] <cjwatson> You can just have the directory be "tovid".
[12:31] <grepper> okay
[12:32] <grepper> what about 0.35.2+release ?
[12:32] <cjwatson> If you like.
[12:32] <grepper> yeah
[12:33] <cjwatson> Just don't get the idea that you always have to append "+release"; it's just to supersede the misleading "0.35.2".
[12:34] <grepper> Right. So this way I don't need to patch up to the upstream release ? I have the new release files in my ppa directory already.
[12:34] <cjwatson> Correct.
[12:34] <grepper> great, thanks for your help
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2015-06-04-#kubuntu
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[08:07] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:10] <eXistenZe> Hey guys
[09:11] <lordievader> o/
[09:11] <eXistenZe> I have my SSD partitioned in 3 (root, free and swap). I don't need a specific mount point on the free partition, but I need it mounted (/media is ok). However when I mount it it's write protected.
[09:12] <eXistenZe> How can I fix this?
[09:12] <lordievader> eXistenZe: Who owns the mount?
[09:12] <eXistenZe> who what?
[09:13] <eXistenZe> Since it's not on an auto mount flag (nor on a specific mount path), I guess my user...
[09:17] <lordievader> eXistenZe: You mount it somewhere, who owns that mount.
[09:18] <eXistenZe> I just click on the partition in dolphin and it mounts on /media
[09:19] <lordievader> eXistenZe: What is the output of 'ls -l /' after it is mounted?
[09:19] <lordievader> !paste | eXistenZe
[09:20] <mariscal> .
[09:20] <eXistenZe> Not on my laptop. I'll try it when I get home and post
[09:20] <eXistenZe> Thank you
[09:23] <Kalashnik0v> Comentario en español aleatorio
[09:24] <lordievader> !spanish | Kalashnik0v
[09:27] <menace> it would be sooo nice if the complete desktop (pre)configuration could be scriptable. not only install widget/activities, but if they are shown by default and in which part. or perhaps i do not find the right documentation for it.
[09:29] <menace> i have a script, which deactivates the networkmanager in the case that it is not seen as default in the tray (but one can activate it). but now, i have to add another script on top, that shall add it into the systray under certain circumstances.. and it should work with configurations where it is not enabled.
[09:43] <pixx> hi
[09:44] <lordievader> o/
[09:49] <mariscal> #Ubuntu-es
[09:51] <eXistenZe> What user-folders (like /home) can be mounted to a partition? I already have /home set to my second disk, but needed another one for a third partition...
[09:52] <lordievader> eXistenZe: What do you mean? You can mount a partition anywhere you like.
[09:52] <eXistenZe> Can I mount a partition in a root folder with whatever name I give it?
[09:53] <lordievader> If the folder exists, yes.
[09:54] <lordievader> And you need to have the rights to do so.
[09:55] <eXistenZe> And if it does not exist?
[09:55] <lordievader> Then you need to create it first.
[09:56] <eXistenZe> I can create root folders with konsole?
[09:56] <lordievader> eXistenZe: If you have to rights to do so, yes.
[09:56] <eXistenZe> I though the root structure was kind of static
[09:58] <eXistenZe> By "rights" you mean sudo, right?
[09:59] <lordievader> That depends, if you own the folder you already have all the rights to create subfolders within that folder. However if the folder is owned by root, then yes you need sudo.
[09:59] <eXistenZe> Then I should have access to everything, right?
[10:00] <lordievader> With sudo? Yes.
[10:04] <eXistenZe> Has anyone noticed that the kde partition manager is missing the "Ok/Cancel buttons" in partition mount edit and becomes useless fot that?
[10:29] <eXistenZe> guess not
[10:35] <lordievader> eXistenZe: Please file a bug against it.
[11:15] <eXistenZe> lordievader: way too much info for the first couple days... how do you file bugs?
[11:15] <lordievader> !bug
[11:15] <lordievader> Hmm, though this should be reported at http://bug.kde.org
[11:17] <eXistenZe> Do these devs hang around any # ?
[11:18] <lordievader> eXistenZe: I suppose in #kde-dev, or #plasma.
[11:19] <eXistenZe> yesterday plasma gave me the stupid black screen on login bug... Had to delete the config file with konsole
[11:19] <eXistenZe> is kubuntu v15 unstable yet?
[11:20] <lordievader> Here it has been rather stable.
[11:23] <eXistenZe> I found several reports on this bug.
[11:27] <lordievader> eXistenZe: Then confirm one of the reports.
[11:44] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[12:01] <eXistenZe> hum... guess I do not have enough juice to run win7 on virtualbox...
[12:01] <eXistenZe> Way to slow
[12:01] <lordievader> eXistenZe: Try KVM ;)
[12:01] <eXistenZe> waayyy to complicated for me
[12:01] <eXistenZe> how do you even install it?
[12:02] <eXistenZe> I didn't find any tut for it
[12:03] <lordievader> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM
[12:03] <lordievader> First hit in google...
[12:04] <eXistenZe> I swear I did google it
[12:04] <eXistenZe> and it pointed to kve site with outdated info
[12:05] <eXistenZe> Does it have a native gui or do we need an extra package for that?
[12:05] <lordievader> eXistenZe: Virt-manager is probably mentioned somewhere.
[12:05] <lordievader> Else, virt-manager ;)
[12:09] <__dan__> eXistenZe: did you install the additions?
[12:12] <eXistenZe> the what?
[12:13] <lordievader> The Vbox additions.
[12:14] <lordievader> eXistenZe: http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/4.3.28/Oracle_VM_VirtualBox_Extension_Pack-4.3.28-100309.vbox-extpack
[12:14] <eXistenZe> That would improve performance?
[12:15] <__dan__> lol big time
[12:15] <__dan__> lordievader: thats not it
[12:15] <__dan__> there should be an option in the GUI to install
[12:16] <lordievader> Meh, its vb... Slow anyways.
[12:17] <__dan__> yeah start the VM, go to devices menu, at the bottom of that menu you should see Install Guest Additions CD Image
[12:18] <__dan__> all it does is mount the ISO to your virtual CD drive, you gotta install the stuff on that CD from within your Windows guest
[12:18] <eXistenZe> Soooo... KVM or vbox? Honestly
[12:18] <eXistenZe> My rig is a 6year old laptop
[12:18] <__dan__> once the drivers and stuff are installed, reboot and the performance should be much better
[12:18] <__dan__> also you get fancy stuff like shared clipboard / shared folders etc
[12:19] <__dan__> dynamic resize of window to guest resolution
[12:20] <__dan__> (although I tried that with a 15.04 alpha and Plasma blew up spectacularly)
[12:20] * __dan__ has run VirtualBox on worse
[12:20] <BluesKaj> qemu-kvm is good combo , worked well here (fast) on W7 as guest except for networking to other windows machines on my network , however I probly could have solved the problem with more patience
[12:21] <__dan__> off the top of my head I would suspect VirtualBox to be better performing than qemu
[12:21] <__dan__> once you put the additions on, it's really quite usable
[12:21] <__dan__> until then it drags it's heels
[12:21] <BluesKaj> well it's not as fast
[12:22] <lordievader> eXistenZe: If your cpu and kernel supports KVM, KVM without a doubt. Else it doesn't really matter both will be slow.
[12:22] <lordievader> __dan__: No, qemu with kvm is much faster than VB. KVM has near bare metal performance.
[12:23] <__dan__> qemu with kvm??
[12:23] <lordievader> __dan__: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=intel_haswell_virtualization&num=2
[12:23] <lordievader> Qemu without kvm is slow.
[12:24] * __dan__ doesn't see the word qemu on that page
[12:25] <__dan__> as I understood it, qemu and kvm are totally different technologies
[12:25] <lordievader> __dan__: KVM is usually mentioned in one breath with Qemu.
[12:25] <lordievader> KVM is the hypervisor, Qemu is the actual emulator.
[12:25] <lordievader> However if Qemu can make use of the KVM extension in the kernel it greatly enhances the performance of Qemu.
[12:26] <eXistenZe> lordievader: it's a T9400 with virtualization
[12:26] <__dan__> ahhh i see, just reading this now https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QEMU
[12:27] <__dan__> last i looked at qemu it wasnt doing any of this stuff
[12:27] * eXistenZe will be right back
[12:28] <lordievader> eXistenZe: What is the output of 'kvm-ok'?
[12:29] <lordievader> You might need to install the cpu-checket package for that command.
[12:31] <__dan__> guy already has vbox installed and running
[12:31] <__dan__> install the additions, have a nice day
[12:31] <__dan__> he's using it for ms office, thats all
[12:32] <__dan__> not worth another day of bashing his head against the keyboard for the sake of 10% performance or whatever
[12:33] <lordievader> I'm just answering his questions.
[12:33] <lordievader> What ever he does is his own desicion.
[12:34] <__dan__> agreed, but come on dude, you could be a KVM salesman :P
[12:35] <lordievader> That is only because KVM is awesome.
[12:35] <__dan__> granted at the end of the day we can only talk about what we know, and personally I know VirtualBox and LXC, bit of VMWare here and there
[12:35] <__dan__> lol
[12:35] <lordievader> VirtualBox is owned by Oracle... Case in point.
[12:36] <__dan__> I'm with you as far as not liking Oracle, but they seem to have left VirtualBox alone for the most part
[12:36] <__dan__> for, shall we say, casual virtualisation, especially Windows guests, it's hard to beat
[12:37] <__dan__> VMWare is better performance-wise, their graphics stack is apparently far better, but what do you need for Office anyway?
[12:37] <__dan__> beyond that, emulating a full PC isn't always the best idea anyway
[12:38] * lordievader runs Lightroom/Photoshop in KVM.
[12:38] <__dan__> yeah I have no idea what the graphics drivers are like under KVM
[12:39] <__dan__> although I'd be surprised if it was a top priority for them
[12:39] * BluesKaj agrees with lordievader on this issue, KVM rocks especailly with qemu
[12:40] <__dan__> I'm not trying to dispute that, I'm sure it's great, it's used all over the place and is clearly rock-solid, but it's horses for courses innit
[12:41] <__dan__> would I run a server farm full of VPS machines on it? or p2v a bunch of old machines for a company's server room? yeah probably ... would I advise one guy who is clearly out of his depth to run it just so he can have MS Office? no, probably not
[12:42] <__dan__> but then I haven't tinkered with the graphical front-ends for it either ...
[12:43] <__dan__> and as far as Oracle goes, how many you guys run mysql? :P
[12:43] <__dan__> (+10 internet points for the first smartass that says MariaDB :P)
[12:44] <__dan__> eheh
[12:46] <BluesKaj> a lot of us are home users , no need for a db
[12:47] <__dan__> show me a youtube clip of someone setting up KVM as easy as VirtualBox with a nice GUI, better performance, and fancy stuff like shared clipboard (the usefulness of which cannot be overstated) and I'll hold my hands up
[12:48] <__dan__> lol *cough* akonadi
[12:49] <BluesKaj> find it yourself ..like I said no need for akonadi either :-)
[12:50] <__dan__> easy tiger, just pointing out KVM is not the best for every case
[12:51] <__dan__> and yeah I don't have any need for akonadi either but that doesn't stop the bloody thing firing up every time i boot :/
[12:51] <__dan__> I still gotta fix that ...
[12:55] <BluesKaj> for home users it's probly the best choice, you can disable akonadi in startup & shutdown>desktop seessions by entering it in the field below "Applications to be excluded from...."
[12:56] <__dan__> I start with an empty session every time, it still fires up, are you sure that will work?
[12:57] <__dan__> and as far as home users go, maybe worth suggesting a nice GUI, I found a Qt-based one when this question came up but already forgot the name of it
[12:58] <BluesKaj> it works here afaik , check with system monitor
[13:00] <__dan__> what do I put in the text box, just akonadi ?
[13:00] <BluesKaj> yeah, or akonadi-server
[13:01] <__dan__> what's the separator, space or comma etc?
[13:01] <__dan__> may as well put akonadi,akonadi-server,korgac
[13:02] <__dan__> nvm, it's comma
[13:02] <BluesKaj> comma and space if you have another app to prevent loading at startup
[13:03] <__dan__> thx bud just rebooting now
[13:05] <__dan__> nah, no go :/
[13:05] <BluesKaj> akonadi doesn't use a lot of resources by itself
[13:05] <BluesKaj> how are you checking?
[13:06] <__dan__> ps aux
[13:08] <__dan__> on my machine the akonadi stuff and mysql take up 848MB RSS
[13:09] <__dan__> which quite frankly is ridiculous
[13:10] <__dan__> after login with 1 konsole open my used RAM is 1.0GB (w/o buffers)
[13:10] <BluesKaj> akonadictl stop
[13:10] <__dan__> ya i do that every login haha
[13:11] <BluesKaj> akonadi doesn't use much resources afaik
[13:11] <__dan__> after I'm down to 817MB so clearly there is some shared but still ...
[13:11] <BluesKaj> I don't see it in system monitor when i type it in the search field
[13:11] <__dan__> 200 meg ram for a system I didn't ask for, that performs no actual function on this machine, that's crazy
[13:12] <lordievader> __dan__: Refering to the graphics thing, if you have two cards you can give one to a vm ;)
[13:12] <__dan__> and really doesn't help the commonly held belief that KDE is heavy
[13:13] <__dan__> lordievader: if you have a spare graphics card in your machine to give to a VM, and furthermore, VT-d support on your CPU, I would hazard a guess that you are not a typical user
[13:13] <lordievader> __dan__: Perhaps, does that matter?
[13:13] <__dan__> yes, yes i think it does
[13:13] <lordievader> __dan__: Virt-manager is easy...
[13:14] <__dan__> ok bud
[13:14] <lordievader> Just a wizard, click a couple of times next and done.
[13:14] <lordievader> Or if you really want easy, openstack. Just deploy static images.
[13:15] <__dan__> bahahaha
[13:15] <__dan__> no comment
[13:43] <EvilRoey> __dan__: er, hi, fancy seeing you ehre
[13:43] <EvilRoey> didn't we meet in ##kubuntu-offtopic?
[13:43] <EvilRoey> hey all o/
[13:43] <EvilRoey> lordievader, BluesKaj
[13:45] <BluesKaj> hwy EvilRoey
[13:45] <BluesKaj> err hey :-)
[13:45] <__dan__> hehe ya EvilRoey hi :)
[13:47] <lordievader> Hey EvilRoey
[14:07] <henry8989> hello everyone I just installed kubuntu on one of my PC's and love it like I o on my other PC's that have it, but my wireless network adapter keeps disconnecting after a while and I have to reconnect it, when this computer ran windows 7 it never did that the wireless adapter always stayed connected any suggestions?
[14:08] <__dan__> henry8989: glad to hear you're liking it :) which version of Kubuntu did you install? and have you run all your updates?
[14:14] <henry8989> 14.04 is what I installed and it works like all day long bu then disconnect after like 10 hours or so or like when I went to the computer it and the wifi was disconnected even thought I left it on all night
[14:15] <__dan__> my instant reaction is to suspect some kind of power management
[14:16] <henry8989> I was the one asking about the nvida geforce 6150 graphics the other day in here and and I have to report they work perfectly with kubuntu unlike regular ubuntu
[14:16] <__dan__> ahhh yeah i remember now
[14:16] <henry8989> thats what i was figuring bu did not know where to go for the power management of of the wifi card
[14:17] <__dan__> fantastic news, I wasnt sure it would work (because computers), but I knew that theoretically it should, and as you would be using the same class of drivers as me, figured it was worth a shot :)
[14:17] <__dan__> you could try this command in a konsole
[14:17] <__dan__> sudo iwconfig wlan0 power off
[14:17] <henry8989> yes it worked but i sitll wnat to know why it jsut goes to black screen on regular ubuntu 14.04
[14:18] <__dan__> that sets your wireless to disable power saving, on this machine though, the driver doesn't support that, maybe it will on yours though
[14:20] <__dan__> if the command doesn't come back with any error, that's set your wireless card to disable power management, see how you get on with that
[14:20] <__dan__> the setting is only active for your current session, if you reboot it should change back to default, so if you have any issues with the wireless after you run that command, just reboot
[14:21] <__dan__> also if your machine goes into sleep mode etc the setting may return to default also
[14:25] <henry8989> ok let me see what that does
[14:27] <henry8989> it says operation not supported
[14:28] <__dan__> yeah same here :( some you can, some you can't
[14:29] <__dan__> maybe worth finding out which wireless card you have, and doing a bit of google-fu
[14:34] <lordievader> sudo iw list probably tells you ;)
[14:39] <henry8989> its an encore enuwi-g2 it says wiphy phy2 and then list all the speeds at which it operates and such whe ni run that command
[14:43] <__dan__> for google searching it will be useful to know the driver name
[14:43] <__dan__> try this
[14:43] <__dan__> grep wlan /var/log/syslog
[14:44] <__dan__> you should see something like this: NetworkManager[946]: <info> (wlan0): new 802.11 WiFi device (driver: 'ath5k' ifindex: 3)
[14:44] <__dan__> that's from my machine, it uses a wireless card that needs the "ath5k" driver
[14:44] <__dan__> may help if you put that in your search
[14:53] <henry8989> its a RTL8187B chipset card
[14:54] <__dan__> yeah realtek in my experience are not synonomous with quality but have a search and see if you can find anything
[15:11] <__dan__> henry8989: just occured to me to point out, don't limit your search to just kubuntu, the problem you're seeing is almost certainly common to all variants of Ubuntu and probably across all distributions of Linux
[15:22] <henry8989> oh yes i figure that i would have to use ubuntu
[15:22] <henry8989> in my search
[15:22] <__dan__> ok cool just thought i would mention
[15:22] <__dan__> good luck :)
[15:34] <eXistenZe> Hey...
[15:34] <eXistenZe> No activity here?
[15:34] <eXistenZe> Is there a jokes bot?
[15:36] <lordievader> eXistenZe: No, there is no jokes bot here.
[15:37] <BluesKaj> !joke
[15:38] <BluesKaj> the bot has no sense of humour...yet
[15:43] <eXistenZe> Gotta improve that
[15:49] <eXistenZe> Is there some kind of cortana assistant for linux?
[15:52] <eXistenZe> Specially one with access to unix and kubuntu faqs for easy "how do I ..."
[15:53] <eXistenZe> If possible with a pole and some swing animations also
[16:01] <eXistenZe> I could beta test if anyone wants to make one...
[16:16] <krise> before making start up disk, should i format usb stick fat 32 or ext2 or something else ?
[16:18] <yossarianuk> hi -not sure this is really a #kubuntu question...
[16:19] <yossarianuk> but - if I mtr a target and there is say 1 packet lost - if I leave it running for hours would I be able to see which hop the packet loss occured
[16:25] <mparillo> krise: This seems to recommend FAT: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[16:27] <mparillo> So does this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USB Installation Media
[16:29] <mparillo> Here they offer another way with one FAT partition and the other EXTx. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent#Method_0:_Automatically_create_Live_USB_system
[16:30] <mparillo> But, that is overkill IMHO if all you will do with the start-up disk is install (as opposed to Live USB with persistence)
[16:38] <designbybeck> In Kubuntu 15.04, I can't press tab to auto complete after sudo
[16:39] <designbybeck> sudo apt-ad *tab* does nothing
[16:43] <IAmMe643> My mic is not recognized.
[17:10] <aethersis> hi, has any of you used dedicated CUDA driver?
[17:21] <calwig> Hello
[17:22] <calwig> Does Language Settings translate to Spracheeinstellungen in German?
[17:22] <aethersis> I think so
[17:22] <aethersis> it's more like speech settings :D
[17:23] <calwig> Regionales? (German)
[17:25] <aethersis> regional settings, like currency, etc
[17:25] <calwig> Yes
[17:25] <aethersis> metric or imperial units etc
[17:25] <calwig> And to have multiple keyboard types?
[17:26] <calwig> K14.04
[17:26] <calwig> Does K14.04 have an icon on the taskbar to set multiple language types of keyboards?
[17:28] <IAmMe643> my microphone is not recognized.
[17:33] <calwig> aethersis: I think I have success
[17:35] <aethersis> calwig: I don't even know what you wanted to achieve but I'm glad you did it :D
[17:41] <calwig> aethersis: I upgraded to 14.04 from 12 and had an icon to switch keyboards based on language.
[17:44] <calwig> aethersis: not all there, but your help is good :)
[17:44] <calwig> brb
[18:58] <aethersis> hi, If I installed kubuntu 32 bit, is there an easy way to port it to 64 bit or would it be a better idea to reinstall everything?
[18:58] <aethersis> this is a fresh installation
[19:03] <lordievader> aethersis: In Debian/Ubuntu it is near impossible without a reinstall. In Gentoo it is possible, but not something you want to do.
[19:03] <aethersis> oh darn it
[19:03] <aethersis> ok, I will reinstall everything :/
[19:03] <lordievader> It involves recompiling everything on your system.
[19:10] <genii> lordievader: It's possible to do although more time consuming than just reinstalling.
[19:40] <lordievader> genii: How?
[19:43] <genii> lordievader: Basically, simplified: dpkg --add-architecture amd64 (or x86_64 now, I think) then make a list of all installed packages to a file, then sudo apt-get install --reinstall all of them
[20:01] <al8989> hello i have a question. i have usb wireless network adapter based off the realtek RTL8187B chipset and it works with my ubuntu 14.04 installation, but it radomly disconnects and i have to keep reconnecting to my wireless network which is annoying is there any solution to stop the wireless adapter from randomly disconnecting?
hello i have a question. i have usb wireless network adapter based off the realtek RTL8187B chipset and it works with my ubuntu 14.04 installation, but it radomly disconnects and i have to keep reconnecting to my wireless network which is annoying is there any solution to stop the wireless adapter from randomly disconnecting?
[20:04] <EvilRoey> BluesKaj: o/ hi
[20:12] <al8989> i have another lptop that has kubuntu 14.04 and it it connects wirelessly to the same router and it never disconnects unless i tell it to
[20:12] <al8989> so i know its nnot the router
[20:13] <al8989> or my internet
[20:13] <genii> Some of those Realtek wifi adapters run off the USB bus. Does it show up under lspci or does it show up under lsusb ?
[20:14] <genii> If USB then it disconnects when the USB goes into power saving mode
[20:15] <al8989> how do i access the lusb, sudo lusb?
[20:15] <genii> Yes, but not sudo lusb, sudo lsusb
[20:15] <al8989> ok
[20:20] <al8989> it showed up under lsusb
[20:21] <al8989> is there away to stop the usb from goign into power savign mode?
[20:22] <genii> al8989: OK, so the USB auto suspend is the problem. To fix it: sudo nano /etc/default/grub and add the line: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="usbcore.autosuspend=-1" , save the file. Then: sudo update-grub
[20:22] <genii> ctrl-x from in nano when ready to save and exit
[20:22] <al8989> ok cool let me try that
[20:23] <genii> al8989: It will take effect next time you boot
[20:25] <al8989> it was annoying the other people whousehte computers who re not as savy as me with computers
[20:26] <al8989> and the windows 7 that used to be on the pc never had that problem
[20:26] <genii> The wifi driver probably has it built-in to disable powersaving on it when connected
[20:31] <al8989> oki did what you said to do it game an error saying setting time to zero no longer supported
[20:33] <genii> al8989: Please pastebin the contents of /etc/default/grub
[20:33] <genii> It should be -1 ( negative one) and not zero
[20:35] <al8989> i did do negative -1
[20:36] <al8989> it said zero or negativenumber
[20:36] <al8989> it said zero or negative number
[20:41] <al8989> the exact error message is setting GRUB_TIMEOUT to a non zero value when GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT isset is no longer supported
[20:41] <genii> al8989: Something must have changed recently, this used to work :-/
[20:41] <genii> al8989: Ah, well, change the timeout then
[20:41] <al8989> change it to what
[20:42] <genii> al8989: Just put a # in front
[20:42] <al8989> in front of which one
[20:42] <al8989> grub_timeout or grub_hidden_timeout
[20:42] <genii> al8989: At the beginning of the line which says: GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0
[20:42] <al8989> ok
[20:46] <MichaelP> Plasma 5 and chromium browser does not get alomg
[20:46] <MichaelP> along
[20:53] <aethersis> hi, is it possible to change default window background which is gray?
[20:53] <aethersis> I don't mean the taskbar, I mean the inside of a window
[20:54] <[Relic]> like changing the color scheme?
[20:54] <aethersis> I don't know
[20:55] <al8989> ok i genii i did that # thing and got no error message this time
[20:55] <aethersis> I want to change the inside of a window from gray to black or something
[20:55] <aethersis> i.e. in firefox, the background right below the taskbar is gray
[20:55] <genii> al8989: Excellent :) After next boot the wifi should stay on
[20:55] <aethersis> and so is the background of all apps and I want to know if it's possible to change it to black
[20:56] <aethersis> or any other colour
[20:56] <al8989> my computer never actually sleeps jsut the monitors goes off
[20:56] <[Relic]> does the monitor comeback later? :)
[20:56] <al8989> yes it does
[20:57] <al8989> was just addign that into my talk about my network adapters pwoersavign mode not being right
[20:57] <aethersis_> hi is it possible to change application background from gray to another colour?
[20:57] <aethersis> hah wth, I asked it on freenode and it redirects here? @,@
[20:58] <aethersis> spooky
[20:58] <[Relic]> this is freenode
[20:58] <aethersis> oh XD
[20:58] <aethersis_> something is bugged then
[20:58] <aethersis_> anyway is it possible?
[20:58] <[Relic]> settings -> system settings -> color -> color tab <-- that what you are looking for?
[20:59] <aethersis_> color is in hardware?
[20:59] <[Relic]> should be at the top in appearance
[20:59] <al8989> also wantedto say geniithat i can nowsee the windows computers on my network which i was unable to see beforefro mkubuntu
[20:59] <_DarkSide_> #brasil
[21:01] <aethersis_> [Relic]: http://postimg.org/image/d5hyz9scd/
[21:02] <aethersis_> the thing I have marked?
[21:03] <[Relic]> that looks like it
[21:03] <aethersis_> and what should I choose there
[21:04] <aethersis_> I don't want to change color scheme from sRGB to something else
[21:04] <aethersis_> I want to change window background
[21:05] <[Relic]> not sure I upgraded from a previous version so mine looks like this -> http://imgur.com/IFOVaNn
[21:07] <aethersis_> ohhh that's exactly what I'm looking for!
[21:07] <[Relic]> for me it is colors then the 3rd tab as you can see
[21:08] <eXistenZe> hey again
[21:08] <eXistenZe> lordievader: you there?
[21:10] <eXistenZe> Can anyone help me? I have a partition (sda3) I want to mount in a root folder (vm, already exists) and keep an auto-mount setting
[21:10] <eXistenZe> kde partition manager does not work for that
[21:11] <eXistenZe> is fstab the only way?
[21:13] <Etriaph> KDE partition manager is for creating and formatting partitions only.
[21:13] <Etriaph> You'd have to make an entry to fstab if you expect it to auto-mount it.
[21:15] <eXistenZe> ok... gonna search a tut for that
[21:46] <eXistenZe> Hey guys. Need help again.
[21:46] <eXistenZe> I have sda3 mounted in /vm through fstab
[21:47] <eXistenZe> however it is owned by root so I can not free use without taking ownership each time
[21:47] <eXistenZe> how can I change this?
[21:48] <eXistenZe> is chown safe?
[21:54] <eXistenZe> guess it's way past midnigth for most people
[22:55] <al8989> hello i am having trouble viewing windowsshares on kubuntu when i click network and than workgroup it showsa lsit of my windows computers but when i choose one it shows no fiels or folders and says server timeout any suggestions?
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[07:03] <dholbach> good morning
[07:03] <fgimenez> good morning
[07:04] <dholbach> hi fgimenez
[08:59] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Hug Your Cat Day! 😃
[11:25] <elopio> good morning.
[11:26] <elopio> hey fgimenez: what do you think about the latest version, ready to promote to stable?
[11:27] <fgimenez> elopio, hi, yes, seems good so far
[11:28] <fgimenez> elopio, i'm finishing the script for the complete upgrade path proposed by rsalveti, that will give us more confidence
[11:28] <elopio> fgimenez: nice, thank you.
[12:00] <sergiusens> rsalveti: mind doing a no change rebuild upload of the archive version of 'ubuntu-snappy' to get the powerpc binaries built? It seems we never built them
[12:13] <Chipaca> rsalveti: where was the 15.04.x blueprint?
[12:13] <sergiusens> Chipaca: https://trello.com/c/wxQzJ9uT/18-create-15-04-1-stable-image
[12:13] <rsalveti> sergiusens: wonder if we would need a no change upload
[12:13] <rsalveti> yeah, that's the one
[12:13] <sergiusens> Chipaca: and the bug task i there
[12:13] <rsalveti> sergiusens: since it was copied from vivid
[12:14] <Chipaca> k
[12:14] <rsalveti> https://launchpad.net/snappy/+milestone/15.04.1
[12:14] <rsalveti> as well
[12:14] <sergiusens> rsalveti: yeah, it was copied from a ppa that probably didn't build for powerpc
[12:14] <sergiusens> rsalveti: yeah, I just gave him the parent link ;-)
[12:14] <sergiusens> Chipaca: from the work items, do you know of anything that can be crossed out?
[12:16] <Chipaca> sergiusens: some of them should be landing about now
[12:17] <sergiusens> Chipaca: do you know anything about the backporting ones?
[12:18] <Chipaca> sergiusens: i've jused approved several backporting MPs
[12:18] <Chipaca> s/jused/just/, and by just i mean an hour or so ago
[12:18] <Chipaca> before lunch
[12:18] <sergiusens> Chipaca: these specifically Backport lp:~jamesodhunt/ubuntu/vivid/ubuntu-core-upgrader/add-sync-calls
[12:18] <sergiusens> Chipaca: and yeah, I saw :-)
[12:18] <Chipaca> and mvo's 15.04 moar-errors one could land if he's not going to be around
[12:23] <rsalveti> sergiusens: want to do another release and I can sponsor your upload?
[12:23] <rsalveti> sergiusens: or just a rebuild is fine?
[12:24] <sergiusens> rsalveti: just a rebuild, a release forces a lot of catching up on u-d-f
[12:24] <rsalveti> sergiusens: right, sure
[12:24] <sergiusens> rsalveti: I can confirm in a bit though
[12:25] <sergiusens> to triple check why powerpc isn't there
[12:25] <rsalveti> sure, will wait then
[12:26] <Chipaca> do we need to do anything with bug #1449625 for it to be SRUable?
[12:26] <nothal> Bug #1449625: systemd and bin-path exported variables are not in sync <Snappy:Fix Committed> <Snappy 15.04:Fix Committed> <http://launchpad.net/bugs/1449625>
[12:27] <Chipaca> marked it "done" in the trello, but then thought to ask, because it explicitly says SRU there :)
[12:28] <sergiusens> Chipaca: we should probably SRU everything that's making it into lp:snappy/15.04
[12:28] * Chipaca marks it "done"
[12:30] <Chipaca> do we really support "upgrading to edge"?
[12:30] <Chipaca> i thought that was a corner case brought about by fiddling with files
[12:30] <rsalveti> edge 15.04 or rolling?
[12:41] <sergiusens> Chipaca: we want to support upgrading to edge when we have proper channels and os/kernel snaps
[12:45] <mterry> sergiusens, you mentioned being able to set up tarmac for ubuntu-core-launcher? Can you also do it for snapcraft?
[12:47] <sergiusens> mterry: yeah, I saw tedg's request :-)
[12:47] <sergiusens> will do it in a bit
[12:47] <mterry> sergiusens, oh didn't know he asked too :)
[12:58] <sergiusens> Chipaca: nagging welcome ;-) https://code.launchpad.net/~sergiusens/snappy/YouShallNotPass/+merge/261079
[12:58] * Chipaca prepares the nag
[13:02] <Chipaca> sergiusens: +1'ed with a nit
[13:04] <sergiusens> Chipaca: nice catch ;-)
[13:04] <Chipaca> sergiusens: which makes me realise
[13:04] <sergiusens> Chipaca: pushed
[13:04] <Chipaca> sergiusens: you're not testing the use of it
[13:05] <sergiusens> uh oh :-P
[13:05] <sergiusens> Chipaca: right! Not the error, which I guess I'll do now
[13:05] <Chipaca> :)
[13:08] <sergiusens> Chipaca: o, now I need interpackage architecture stubbing, yay
[13:08] <Chipaca> ...
[13:09] <Chipaca> no, no you don't
[13:09] <Chipaca> just test with "xyzzy" architecture
[13:09] <Chipaca> that is, in the package, put architectures: foo, bar, baz
[13:09] <Chipaca> but properly ;)
[13:10] <sergiusens> Chipaca: oh, I was going to build a test snap, not test the error only ;-)
[13:10] <Chipaca> sergiusens: you're already testing that you detect the "right" arch in the unit test
[13:10] <Chipaca> sergiusens: you just need to test that you report the error in the integration test
[13:11] <Chipaca> sergiusens: yes, i meant in the package.yaml
[13:11] <sergiusens> Chipaca: right, but I rely on UbuntuArchitecture() which depends on the system where you run the test ;-) That's why I said interpackage :-)
[13:11] <sergiusens> so I'll do what I was going to do ;-)
[13:12] <Chipaca> sergiusens: not sure i follow
[13:13] <sergiusens> helpers.UbuntuArchitecture() uses the systems arch, it's all fine if we all run on amd64 but this will all fail when using a different system
[13:13] <sergiusens> meh, I understand myself ;-)
[13:13] <sergiusens> I just need to mock UbuntuArchitecture
[13:13] <Chipaca> sergiusens: um
[13:13] <Chipaca> sergiusens: i don't see that need
[13:13] <Chipaca> hence my questioning it
[13:14] <sergiusens> Chipaca: I'm a lazy typer today https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/canonical.com/seetheneed
[13:35] <sergiusens> Chipaca: see if you like it now
[13:37] <Chipaca> sergiusens: top-approved
[13:37] <Chipaca> purrfect :)
[13:38] <sergiusens> Chipaca: thanks
[13:38] <sergiusens> Chipaca: I always spend some time figuring out which "test helper" we want :-P not sure if the same happens to you
[13:46] <Chipaca> sergiusens: "write a new one every time" is probably a suboptimal strategy
[15:01] <sergiusens> Chipaca: https://code.launchpad.net/~sergiusens/snappy/YouShallNotPassBeforeEither/+merge/261097
[15:25] <elopio> rsalveti: do you think we will need to test something on the phones in the next months?
[15:25] <elopio> I'm wondering if I can leave them here so somebody else gets them.
[15:25] <rsalveti> elopio: you never know
[15:25] <rsalveti> elopio: I'd suggest you to keep them with you
[15:25] <rsalveti> unless requested by someone else
[15:28] <sergiusens> rsalveti: elopio you only really need one; I guess we will mostly be doing the core work (os and kernel snap)
[15:28] <sergiusens> but would leave ui work to others
[15:29] <rsalveti> right
[15:30] <elopio> yes. That's what I was thinking. I need a phone to call my mother too :)
[15:30] <elopio> I'll ask how hard would it be to get the others back if we happen to need them later.
[15:55] <kyrofa> Chipaca, ping
[15:59] <rickspencer3> jdstrand, so it is it totally legit for me to let to snaps to talk to each other over localhost:whateverports?
[15:59] <sergiusens> rsalveti: how was https://bugs.launchpad.net/snappy/+bug/1424586 Fix Released? Asking in the sense of backporting ;-)
[16:00] <sergiusens> or is that what fgimenez is working on?
[16:00] <sergiusens> if that's the case, mterry just took over the last bug in that list that is !apparmor
[16:01] <sergiusens> rickspencer3: there is language to prevent that in package.yaml but it is not enforced yet (internal vs external)
[16:02] <fgimenez> sergiusens, i'm using the upgrade script just for testing one of the upgrade paths, anyway seems to be a different approach from that bug
[16:03] <jdstrand> rickspencer3: yes, for external ports (see https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/snappy/guides/package-metadata/). for internal ports there are ideas in the vision doc to create firewall rules that could interfere
[16:04] <fgimenez> sergiusens, the bug fix implements what we were talking about in yesterday's standup, modifying channel.ini to allow an update from the current version
[16:04] <jdstrand> rickspencer3: so internal today would work too. also note, ports is in meta.md but we don't do anything with it yet afaik
[16:05] <sergiusens> fgimenez: yeah, that's in selftests iirc
[16:05] <jdstrand> rsalveti: btw, is there a card for that ^. it seems like we should at least have ingress filtering for anything in 'ports/internal'
[16:05] <jdstrand> actually, that gives me a thought
[16:05] <fgimenez> sergiusens, yep, it's one of them
[16:06] <jdstrand> I thinks ports is not implemented in part because we wanted a ports service to say whether or not something was assigned
[16:07] <jdstrand> what if we used netfilter as the database? ie, if you specify 'ports/external' then you get an ACCEPT rule with an id/comment as the PKGNAME_APPNAME and an DROP rule for external interfaces for ports/internal with an id/comment
[16:08] <jdstrand> sergiusens, rsalveti: ^ idea for whoever implements something more with 'ports'
[16:08] <Chipaca> kyrofa: pong
[16:09] <jdstrand> sergiusens, rsalveti: in this manner, snappy can parse iptables output and determine if something on the system is assigned a port
[16:09] <kyrofa> Chipaca, I'm just getting started on a dbus daemon in golang, and I see you've contributed to go-dbus. Do you recommend that lib?
[16:10] <Chipaca> kyrofa: last time i checked, it was the better of the go dbus wrappers
[16:10] <Chipaca> kyrofa: what's your daemon interfacing with?
[16:10] <kyrofa> Chipaca, the Unity8 QML progress widget
[16:12] <Chipaca> kyrofa: so you're binding qt/qml?
[16:14] <jdstrand> rickspencer3: in case it isn't obvious, if you open a port, anyone can connect to it, so things would have to be designed with that in mind
[16:14] <kyrofa> Chipaca, no, I mean that's what it's communicating with via dbus. Perhaps I misunderstood the question?
[16:14] <Chipaca> kyrofa: ah, ok :)
[16:14] <sergiusens> jdstrand: so DENY by default and if declared as an external port we add an ACCEPT and if negotiable we find a free slot and assign it there and somehow send that back to the package
[16:14] <Chipaca> kyrofa: i was just asking because if you were binding qt or glib anyway, it might make more sense to use their dbus implementation
[16:14] <jdstrand> future internal ports intend to help-- you declare an internal port and what apps can connect to it
[16:15] <sergiusens> jdstrand: but iptables doesn't solve the app1 <-> app2 problem though
[16:15] <jdstrand> sergiusens: yes, essentially
[16:15] <kyrofa> Chipaca, ahh, gotcha :)
[16:15] <Chipaca> sergiusens: how "stable" are data dirs? can i tell a guy to ship a symlink to their data dir in their app?
[16:15] <kyrofa> Chipaca, alright, I appreciate your help! I'll dive into using go-dbus :)
[16:15] <jdstrand> sergiusens: no it doesn't yet-- that would come later
[16:15] <sergiusens> jdstrand: we should probably add this to the backlog
[16:15] <jdstrand> sergiusens: that is in the vision doc
[16:15] <Chipaca> kyrofa: enjoy! holler when it breaks :)
[16:16] <kyrofa> Chipaca, ha! Will do ;)
[16:16] <jdstrand> sergiusens: it would probably make sense to look at ufw's default setup, how it sets up chains, etc for inspiration
[16:17] <jdstrand> if you want, I can help with the design
[16:17] <jdstrand> or at least review/comment on it
[16:18] <jdstrand> sergiusens: alternatively to default DROP, you setup only the rules that are specific to what is declared in ports
[16:18] <jdstrand> that might be a safer first step until we understand frameworks better
[16:19] <jdstrand> but we can talk about it
[16:19] <sergiusens> jdstrand: tracked now https://trello.com/c/p8g9U2cV/80-internal-and-external-port-acl
[16:21] <jdstrand> sergiusens: awesome (commented)
[16:22] <jdstrand> sergiusens: it probably will make sense to discuss with th architects team since there will be interactions between snaps and frameworks
[16:22] <jdstrand> sergiusens: eg, a router framework and an unrelated snap. I'd like to be invited to that call with the architects
[16:26] <jdstrand> sergiusens: so, for the vision work (additional filtering of internal ports for app to app filtering), the basic idea is create a net cgroup that tags the network traffic, and then you have rules that reference the tag
[16:27] <jdstrand> sergiusens: I think that should be done as a second step
[16:38] <jdstrand> sergiusens: ok, I'll stop talking here-- I added my thoughts to the card
[16:38] <jdstrand> since it is clear that is what you want ;P
[16:43] <sergiusens> jdstrand: oh, sorry, I'm preparing lunch ;-)
[16:44] <sergiusens> jdstrand: we can discuss here in a bit and then I'll summarize neatly in the card
[16:44] <sergiusens> but food first since it's almost 2pm and I need to eat ;-)
[16:45] <jdstrand> sergiusens: I was just teasing. Everything I have time to discuss today is in the card so I think we are good for nowe
[16:45] <jdstrand> now*
[16:46] <mterry> sergiusens, added a .tarmac.sh to lp:snapcraft
[16:46] <mterry> Missed that in lp:snappy
[17:11] <rsalveti> sergiusens: for bug 1424586, only trunk is fix released
[17:11] <rsalveti> the 15.04 task is still opened
[17:21] <rsalveti> sergiusens: can you check if we can backport the selftests as well?
[17:21] <rsalveti> then we drop the older separated branch completely
[17:22] <rsalveti> and I believe the current self tests are compatible with both 15.04 and rolling
[17:23] <rsalveti> jdstrand: sergiusens: thanks for creating the card
[17:23] <rsalveti> I think ricmm will own that from the arch side of things
[17:23] <rsalveti> ricmm: https://trello.com/c/p8g9U2cV/80-internal-and-external-port-acl
[17:23] <rsalveti> he's our network architect :-)
[17:24] <rsalveti> let me add this as a topic for the archs call to make sure we don't forget
[17:51] <ricmm> rsalveti: yea please add that to go over it tomorrow
[17:52] <rsalveti> already did
[17:52] <ricmm> thx
[18:08] <sergiusens> rsalveti: right, but there is no link to any code so I have no idea what work was done for that
[18:08] <sergiusens> wrt to the bug
[18:08] <rsalveti> right, mvo just added a comment pointing out the branch
[18:08] <rsalveti> but didn't link to the bug
[18:08] <sergiusens> ricmm: rsalveti I also need an 'am I online API' where online can be, lan, wan, internet
[18:08] <rsalveti> https://bugs.launchpad.net/snappy/+bug/1424586/comments/6
[18:08] <sergiusens> rsalveti: ok
[18:09] <rsalveti> sergiusens: hm, right
[18:09] <sergiusens> rsalveti: there, I linked to the bug
[18:09] <rsalveti> thanks
[18:10] <rsalveti> for 15.04 we hopefully can just backport the selftests merge
[18:10] <sergiusens> rsalveti: selftests though, those are cross release still, so there shouldn't be any backport work
[18:10] <sergiusens> rsalveti: since this landed in the selftest series and not in trunk
[18:10] <rsalveti> sergiusens: right, but we still need to merge under the 15.04 branch, right?
[18:10] <rsalveti> sergiusens: but thought selftests were later merged
[18:10] <sergiusens> rsalveti: I don't think selftests are in trunk yet
[18:11] <rsalveti> man, I hate this code browse interface for bzr
[18:12] <rsalveti> yeah, thought mvo had merged that
[18:13] <sergiusens> rsalveti: nope, and I don't see an MP anymore
[18:13] <rsalveti> so all good then
[18:13] <rsalveti> we'll merge for 15.04.2 I guess
[18:13] <sergiusens> rsalveti: I know there were commens from elopio in an original let's "merge it" MP
[18:13] <rsalveti> right
[18:13] <sergiusens> I guess this may have died in relation to his work into converting to go
[18:13] <rsalveti> could be
[18:14] <rsalveti> sergiusens: https://code.launchpad.net/~mvo/snappy/snappy-merge-integration-tests/+merge/259592
[18:14] <rsalveti> yeah, still wip
[18:15] <rsalveti> @reviewlist
[18:15] <nothal> https://code.launchpad.net/~mterry/ubuntu-core-launcher/tmpdir-15.04/+merge/261104 | No reviews (less than a day old)
[18:15] <nothal> https://code.launchpad.net/~stephen-stewart/webdm/tidy-up-list-row/+merge/260837 | No reviews (1 day old)
[18:15] <nothal> https://code.launchpad.net/~mterry/snappy/rollback-reboot/+merge/261114 | Needs Information: 1 (less than a day old)
[18:15] <nothal> https://code.launchpad.net/~chipaca/snappy/mangle/+merge/260934 | No reviews (less than a day old)
[18:15] <nothal> https://code.launchpad.net/~mvo/snappy/snappy-lp1449032-poor-mans-rsync/+merge/260931 | Approve: 1 (less than a day old)
[18:16] <rsalveti> why is it not there?
[18:25] <sergiusens> rsalveti: the webui isn't showing it either (which is why I thought it was destroyed)
[18:25] <rsalveti> weeeeeird
[18:26] <rsalveti> hm, showing fine here
[18:26] <rsalveti> https://code.launchpad.net/~snappy-dev/snappy/snappy/+activereviews
[18:26] <rsalveti> lp:~mvo/snappy/snappy-merge-integration-tests ⇒ lp:snappy
[18:26] <sergiusens> rsalveti: oh, right, I'm looking at lp:snappy/+activereviews
[18:26] <sergiusens> rsalveti: you don't see it in the reviewlist because it's WiP
[18:27] <sergiusens> that should be @worklist ;)
[18:28] <rsalveti> oh, got it
[18:28] <rsalveti> makes sense
[18:28] <rsalveti> it's just that it's really uncommon for people to let the status as wip
[18:37] <mterry> I'm getting "operation not supported" and a failure to install hello-world on latest rolling image
[18:38] <mterry> Anyone else seeing that or is my image just borked?
[18:41] <rsalveti> iirc latest rolling is still not properly in shape
[18:41] <rsalveti> so might just be a valid bug
[18:44] <sergiusens> mterry: rsalveti that's a go 1.4 bug (from Chipaca's findings)
[18:45] <sergiusens> rsalveti: nah, this team does the right thing ;-) If it's not ready for review WiP is the right status :-)
[18:48] <sergiusens> @reviewlist
[18:48] <nothal> https://code.launchpad.net/~mterry/ubuntu-core-launcher/tmpdir-15.04/+merge/261104 | No reviews (less than a day old)
[18:48] <nothal> https://code.launchpad.net/~stephen-stewart/webdm/tidy-up-list-row/+merge/260837 | No reviews (1 day old)
[18:48] <nothal> https://code.launchpad.net/~chipaca/snappy/mangle/+merge/260934 | No reviews (less than a day old)
[18:48] <nothal> https://code.launchpad.net/~mvo/snappy/snappy-lp1449032-poor-mans-rsync/+merge/260931 | Approve: 1 (less than a day old)
[18:48] <nothal> https://code.launchpad.net/~mvo/snappy/snappy-oauth-quoting/+merge/260909 | Needs Fixing: 1 (less than a day old)
[18:51] <mterry> sergiusens, I'm looking at this rollback code
[18:51] <mterry> sergiusens, and actually, we output "Setting %s to version %s" AFTER we rollback
[18:51] <mterry> sergiusens, so there's no feedback for a bit
[18:51] <mterry> sergiusens, I'm going to modify my branch to move that up
[18:52] <sergiusens> mterry: meh
[18:52] <sergiusens> mterry: I think it's too late :-/
[18:53] <mterry> sergiusens, I caught it :)
[18:53] <mterry> sergiusens, no i didn't
[18:53] <mterry> sergiusens, sight
[18:53] <mterry> oh well
[18:53] <sergiusens> mterry: just leave it, we should have a proper spinner in place
[18:53] <mterry> sergiusens, fair enough
[18:54] <sergiusens> mterry: we can reset trunk if you want ;-)
[18:55] <mterry> yes pls
[18:55] <sergiusens> mterry: ok, one sec
[18:55] <mterry> :)
[18:56] <sergiusens> mterry: done
[18:57] <mterry> sergiusens, wait what? That is a thing we do?
[18:57] <mterry> sergiusens, I thought you were joking
[18:57] <sergiusens> mterry: sometimes, yes
[18:57] <sergiusens> mterry: we once had someone (not naming names) do something bad with trunk
[18:57] <mterry> sergiusens, you crazy. OK, let me set branch status
[18:57] <sergiusens> mterry: anyways, no smilies or anything and I take you seriously ;-)
[18:58] <sergiusens> sorry
[18:58] <mterry> sergiusens, that's fair. I just didn't think it was a real thing, so I didn't take you seriously :)
[18:58] <mterry> I mean
[18:58] <mterry> I know you can always push --overwrite
[18:58] <mterry> But I thought we had protections against that
[18:59] <sergiusens> mterry: oh, yeah, I know what you mean; but yeah, it's doable and very easy to make a mistake
[19:00] <sergiusens> a common mistake, bzr branch <code>; cd <code>; bzr merge <branch>; bzr push <code>; sleep (a lot); write_core; bzr commit; bzr push (oops)
[19:02] <sergiusens> mterry: it's solvable by putting trunk under a different team and only having the merge bot there
[19:03] <rickspencer3> sergiusens, not sure if you are still here, but are you saying that if I try to send data over localhost:n ... that it will stop working when the security policy is fully implemented?
[19:03] <mterry> sergiusens, yeah I try to never reuse branch directories for that reason
[19:04] <sergiusens> mterry: I can't wait for our git migration ;-)
[19:04] <sergiusens> rickspencer3: I am
[19:04] <sergiusens> rickspencer3: and yes, it would stop if you declare your port as internal (I don't recall the spec completely from the top of my head right now)
[19:08] <rickspencer3> sergiusens, ok, I'll wait until the proper implementation for socket communication
[19:09] <rickspencer3> is there a standard way that folks are parsing yaml in Go?
[19:10] <sergiusens> rickspencer3: we use gopkg.in/yaml.v2
[19:10] <sergiusens> rickspencer3: http://godoc.org/gopkg.in/yaml.v2
[19:22] <mterry> rsalveti, I think we may want bug 1457183 in 15.04.1 too
[19:23] <rsalveti> mterry: yeah, makes sense, thanks
[19:35] <mterry> When is lp:snappy/selftest run?
[20:05] <rsalveti> sergiusens should know if enabled as part of the merging process
[20:05] <rsalveti> but generally we want to run it as part of proposed-migration and after the image gets published
[20:05] <rsalveti> but that is currently disabled, since we had the ps4 outage
[20:06] <sergiusens> rsalveti: I can't run it yet as part of the merging process, well I could but it would take a couple of hours I guess (vm inside a vm)
[20:07] <rsalveti> right
[20:07] <rsalveti> so the goal is to have that, eventually
[20:07] <rsalveti> mterry: so your answer is only when manually testing it
[20:08] <mterry> rsalveti, fair
[20:08] <mterry> but the plan is more
[20:28] <Chipaca> sergiusens: suggestions for "integrate()"?
[20:28] <Chipaca> sergiusens: generateIntegration()?
[20:29] <Chipaca> sergiusens: ohblahdeeOhblahdahIntegrationLalalalalalala()
[20:29] <Chipaca> sergiusens: antiderivative()
[20:34] <sergiusens> Chipaca: doStuff()
[20:34] <Chipaca> sergiusens: doPerformHelpWorker()
[20:34] <sergiusens> Chipaca: legacyIntegrationHooks?
[20:35] <sergiusens> @bugs
[20:35] <nothal> sergiusens: No such command!
[20:35] <sergiusens> @help
[20:35] <nothal> "list" To see the available commands ; "help cmd" for specific command help
[20:35] <Chipaca> well, some of it is legacy, some isn't
[20:35] <sergiusens> @help list
[20:35] <nothal> Lista las órdenes disponibles.
[20:35] <Chipaca> @list
[20:35] <nothal> The available commands are: ['bug', 'critical', 'help', 'last', 'list', 'more', 'ping', 'reviewlist', 'seen']
[20:35] <Chipaca> @critical
[20:35] <sergiusens> yay, half translations
[20:35] <sergiusens> @bug
[20:35] <sergiusens> hmmm
[20:35] <Chipaca> bug is for “bug # yadda”
[20:35] <sergiusens> Chipaca: !hal broke
[20:36] <Chipaca> but @critical isn't
[20:36] <Chipaca> these python programs, coming here, using up all the bugs
[20:36] <sergiusens> @help bug
[20:36] <nothal> Search a bug and show it's id, title and status
[20:36] <sergiusens> Chipaca: yeah, I want @bugs :-P
[20:36] <Chipaca> @help critical
[20:36] <nothal> show the crtical bugs for self.project (could be a meta project)
[20:36] <Chipaca> verterok: @critical ne marche plus?
[20:37] <sergiusens> Chipaca: do you know about https://bugs.launchpad.net/snappy/+bug/1460152 ?
[20:37] <Chipaca> verterok: also, why doesn't @reviewlist list everything?
[20:37] <Chipaca> ubottu: i know since i last lucked, mvo picked it up somehow?
[20:37] <Chipaca> or maybe somebody assigned to it
[20:37] <Chipaca> ubottu: sorry, i meant sergiusens
[20:37] <Chipaca> ubottu: i never assume that which i am interacting with is intelligent
[20:38] <sergiusens> Chipaca: I am only a human, pleaase don't think I'm intelligent :-)
[20:38] <Chipaca> ubottu: it's merely a convenient abstraction
[20:38] <verterok> Chipaca: what do you mean it doesn't list everything?
[20:38] <Chipaca> verterok: compare
[20:38] <Chipaca> @reviewlist
[20:38] <nothal> https://code.launchpad.net/~mterry/ubuntu-core-launcher/tmpdir-15.04/+merge/261104 | No reviews (less than a day old)
[20:38] <nothal> https://code.launchpad.net/~stephen-stewart/webdm/tidy-up-list-row/+merge/260837 | No reviews (1 day old)
[20:38] <nothal> https://code.launchpad.net/~mterry/snappy/rollback-reboot-15.04/+merge/261135 | No reviews (less than a day old)
[20:38] <nothal> https://code.launchpad.net/~mvo/snappy/snappy-lp1460152-workaround/+merge/261144 | No reviews (less than a day old)
[20:38] <nothal> https://code.launchpad.net/~chipaca/snappy/mangle/+merge/260934 | No reviews (less than a day old)
[20:38] <Chipaca> verterok: and code.launchpad.net/snappy/+activereviews
[20:38] <nothal> https://code.launchpad.net/~chipaca/snappy/removeClick/+merge/260560 | Needs Information: 1 (5 days old)
[20:38] <nothal> https://code.launchpad.net/~mvo/snappy/snappy-lp1459212-check-required-fields/+merge/260509 | Needs Fixing: 1 (6 days old)
[20:38] <nothal> https://code.launchpad.net/~sergiusens/snappy/frameworkPath/+merge/260202 | Needs Information: 1, Approve: 1 (8 days old)
[20:38] <nothal> https://code.launchpad.net/~mvo/snappy/snappy-more-errors-15.04/+merge/260111 | Approve: 1 (8 days old)
[20:38] <nothal> https://code.launchpad.net/~mvo/snappy/snappy-merge-integration-tests/+merge/259592 | Needs Information: 1, Approve: 1 (14 days old)
[20:39] <Chipaca> verterok: in particular, two of mvo's branches and two of my branches don't show up
[20:39] <verterok> Chipaca: help me here, which ones? :)
[20:40] <Chipaca> verterok: of mine, lp:~chipaca/snappy/setActiveClick and lp:~chipaca/snappy/unsetActiveClick
[20:40] <Chipaca> verterok: of mvo, dunno, i just counted
[20:40] * Chipaca is bad at making set differences
[20:41] <verterok> Chipaca: k, one example is ok
[20:41] <Chipaca> verterok: this is without looking at mvo's git one :)
[20:42] <verterok> yeah, no git branches/repo support last time I checked launchpadlib
[20:42] <Chipaca> no worries
[20:42] * Chipaca hopes that will come
[20:43] <Chipaca> sergiusens: before i started the ubottu nonesense, did you read my reply?
[20:43] <sergiusens> Chipaca: I think rsalveti said it was on cjwatson's list
[20:43] <sergiusens> Chipaca: about me not being intelligent?
[20:44] <sergiusens> Chipaca: or this new goodie? https://code.launchpad.net/~mvo/snappy/snappy-lp1460152-workaround/+merge/261144
[20:44] <Chipaca> sergiusens: yes. I mean no, about mvo being on the bug
[20:44] <sergiusens> Chipaca: which shows up on the list ;-)
[20:44] <Chipaca> yeah, that one
[20:44] <Chipaca> sergiusens: noticed it suddenly had a patch and a branch on the milestone list
[20:45] <sergiusens> Chipaca: wrt to integrate() add some comment or the word legacy there, we are planning on getting rid of it, right?
[20:45] <Chipaca> sergiusens: we had a drive-by mvo it seems
[20:45] <Chipaca> sergiusens: maybe :) it's mostly for generating the click manifest, so yes
[20:45] <sergiusens> Chipaca: I know of people that had enough mana to summon him :-)
[20:47] <Chipaca> i found a good place to have a sprint!
[20:47] <Chipaca> http://www.waterwaysholidays.com/detail/alvdove15.htm
[20:47] <mterry> jdstrand, where is docker packaging? I wanted to get the same error you did in bug 1442410
[20:48] <Chipaca> mvo: boo!
[20:51] <mvo> hey Chipaca
[20:51] <mvo> Chipaca: how are you?
[20:51] <Chipaca> me? I'm fine. My irc client doesn't crash all the time.
[20:51] <sergiusens> lol
[20:56] <Chipaca> so, given http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2015/06/04/fbi-official-companies-should-help-us-prevent-encryption-above-all-else/
[20:56] <Chipaca> when do we start encrypting snappy?
[21:00] <verterok> Chipaca: it seems the bot was in a weird state, kicked it a bit
[21:00] <verterok> @reviewlist
[21:00] <nothal> https://code.launchpad.net/~mterry/ubuntu-core-launcher/tmpdir-15.04/+merge/261104 | No reviews (less than a day old)
[21:00] <nothal> https://code.launchpad.net/~stephen-stewart/webdm/tidy-up-list-row/+merge/260837 | No reviews (1 day old)
[21:00] <nothal> https://code.launchpad.net/~mvo/snappy/snappy-lp1460152-workaround-15.04/+merge/261148 | No reviews (less than a day old)
[21:00] <nothal> https://code.launchpad.net/~mvo/snappy/snappy-lp1460152-workaround/+merge/261144 | No reviews (less than a day old)
[21:00] <nothal> https://code.launchpad.net/~chipaca/snappy/mangle/+merge/260934 | No reviews (less than a day old)
[21:00] * Chipaca kicks nothal
[21:00] * nothal kicks Chipaca
[21:01] <verterok> @reviewlist
[21:01] <nothal> https://code.launchpad.net/~mterry/ubuntu-core-launcher/tmpdir-15.04/+merge/261104 | No reviews (less than a day old)
[21:01] <nothal> https://code.launchpad.net/~stephen-stewart/webdm/tidy-up-list-row/+merge/260837 | No reviews (1 day old)
[21:01] <nothal> https://code.launchpad.net/~mvo/snappy/snappy-lp1460152-workaround-15.04/+merge/261148 | No reviews (less than a day old)
[21:01] <nothal> https://code.launchpad.net/~mvo/snappy/snappy-lp1460152-workaround/+merge/261144 | No reviews (less than a day old)
[21:01] <nothal> https://code.launchpad.net/~chipaca/snappy/mangle/+merge/260934 | No reviews (less than a day old)
[21:02] <verterok> Chipaca: something is broken. sorry. will redeploy it
[21:02] <Chipaca> k...
[21:03] <verterok> @critical
[21:04] <Chipaca> sergiusens: afaict lp:~jamesodhunt/ubuntu/vivid/ubuntu-core-upgrader/add-sync-calls and lp:~jamesodhunt/ubuntu/vivid/ubuntu-core-upgrader/use-os-sync
[21:04] * verterok kicks harder
[21:04] <mvo> hey Chipaca, sorr,y looks like my network is a bit unreliable
[21:04] <Chipaca> sergiusens: are meregd already into ubuntu:vivid/ubuntu-core-upgrader
[21:04] <mvo> Chipaca: did you say anything?
Chipaca: how are you?
[21:05] <Chipaca> * mvo has quit (Client Quit)
me? I'm fine. My irc client doesn't crash all the time.
lol
[21:05] <mvo> my irc client is fine, my network is not ;)
[21:05] <Chipaca> fair enough
[21:05] <mvo> I heard ubuntu-core-upgrader, whats up with that?
[21:05] <mvo> seems to be ok now though (the network), fingers crossed ;)
[21:05] <Chipaca> mvo: afaict lp:~jamesodhunt/ubuntu/vivid/ubuntu-core-upgrader/add-sync-calls and lp:~jamesodhunt/ubuntu/vivid/ubuntu-core-upgrader/use-os-sync are meregd already into ubuntu:vivid/ubuntu-core-upgrader
[21:06] <mvo> cool, yeah, quite possible
[21:06] * mvo can't remember but it rings a bell
[21:06] <Chipaca> mvo: that is, i bzr branch'ed ubuntu:vivid/ubuntu-core-upgrader, and merging those two branches gave me no diff
[21:07] <Chipaca> mvo: does this mean the task wrt the upgrader for 15.04.1 is done?
[21:07] <Chipaca> mvo: or is there more to it?
[21:07] * Chipaca has no idea
[21:07] <mvo> Chipaca: let me quickly double check
[21:07] <Chipaca> mvo: should i be letting you work at all?
[21:08] <mvo> Chipaca: heh :)
[21:09] <mvo> Chipaca: so its merged but it seems like its not uploaded yet, I will push to the PPA for now and we need a proper SRU
[21:09] <Chipaca> mvo: ok. I thought it landed in ubuntu:yadda after being in the archive proper, but obviously not
[21:14] <mvo> Chipaca: I land it now
[21:16] * rsalveti waves to mvo
[21:16] <rsalveti> yeah, we can take care of the SRU side later
[21:17] <rsalveti> guess that would include core-upgrader and core-launcher
[21:18] <mvo> hey rsalveti
[21:18] <mvo> rsalveti: yeah
[21:18] <mterry> sergiusens, you said earlier that install problems on rolling were "a go 1.4 bug (from Chipaca's findings)"
[21:18] <mterry> sergiusens, is there a workaround or a bug to track?
[21:18] <Chipaca> mterry: well, well
[21:18] <Chipaca> mterry: there is no bug for the 1.4 thing afaik, maybe there should be
[21:19] <Chipaca> mterry: we'd have to check with a "proper" go 1.4 first
[21:19] <Chipaca> as this was just with my locally-compiled go 1.4, which might have other issues
[21:19] <Chipaca> (it hasn't been a problem before, but)
[21:19] <Chipaca> mterry: what exactly are you seeing?
[21:20] <mterry> Chipaca, when I try to "sudo snappy install" something, I get "operation not supported" and then a message about unpack from /tmp to the real place failed
[21:20] <Chipaca> ah, yes, that sounds exactly like the thing that happened with my 1.4
[21:20] <mvo> Chipaca, mterry: AIUI lp:~mterry/ubuntu-core-launcher/tmpdir-15.04 needs to land in the PPA as well (its not yet, correct?)
[21:21] <Chipaca> mvo: correct
[21:21] <mterry> mvo, I'd like it to land yeah
[21:21] <mvo> cool, shall I do the merge/upload-to-ppa dance or is someone already on it?
[21:22] <mvo> (sorry, I'm a bit out of the loop)
[21:22] <Chipaca> I've +1'ed and top-approved
[21:22] <rsalveti> one other we need review https://code.launchpad.net/~mterry/ubuntu-core-launcher/tmpdir-15.04/+merge/261104
[21:22] <rsalveti> and then upload as well
[21:22] <Chipaca> rsalveti: that's the one mvo just asked about
[21:22] <Chipaca> rsalveti: and the review is done
[21:22] <rsalveti> indeed, sorry, was going over my tabs
[21:22] <Chipaca> (as i'd reviewed the original one, it was quick)
[21:23] <rsalveti> mvo: I can do as well, you should not even be here :-)
[21:24] <rsalveti> the workaround for the apparmor mr should be automatically merged and uploaded, so that is fine
[21:24] <rsalveti> guess we just need to create the backporting branch once that lands in trunk
[21:26] <rsalveti> Chipaca: lol, that article would be a good one for the onion
[21:26] <Chipaca> rsalveti: :-/
[21:27] <mvo> rsalveti: I have a backport branch pushed as well :)
[21:27] * rsalveti hugs mvo
[21:28] <mvo> rsalveti: I can do the merge/upload, thats fine (unless you already started that or I duplicate the work of someone else)
[21:28] <rsalveti> didn't yet start, unless Chipaca is on it, I don't think anyone is on it yet
[21:29] <Chipaca> i can't upload, i don't think
[21:29] <rsalveti> you should be able to
[21:29] <rsalveti> you're part of ~snappy-dev
[21:30] <Chipaca> Excellent.
[21:30] * Chipaca did not just do his mr burns impression
[21:30] <rsalveti> I'll trigger another image once everything is there
[21:30] <rsalveti> and hopefully we should have our first RC
[21:32] <mterry> mvo, I saw your comment about helpers/, which I also helped make worse with my EnvVar stuff
[21:32] <mterry> mvo, maybe we need a second "general" package
[21:32] <Chipaca> mterry: what was the comment?
[21:32] <mvo> mterry: yeah! or maybe I'm overthinking this, I'm not sure yet :)
[21:32] <mterry> on lp:~sergiusens/snappy/YouShallNotPass merge, just saying a func maybe doesn't belong in helpers/
[21:32] <mterry> Chipaca, ^
[21:33] <mvo> but I would love to have a tiny bit more structure in helpers as its a bit of a misc/ dir right now and at some point it was meant to be stuff-missing-in-stdlib or something like that
[21:33] <mterry> Chipaca, so wait. About the go1.4 bug. no workaround yet? Should I just go back to 15.04 for testing?
[21:34] <Chipaca> mterry: given the bug, yes, go back to 15.04
[21:34] <Chipaca> especially as that's what we're releasing rsn :)
[21:35] <Chipaca> mterry: or, compile snappy with 1.3 for W
[21:35] <Chipaca> mterry: until we've sorted that one out
[21:35] <mvo> rsalveti: once the workaround branch lands (assuming it gets a ok fromthe reviewers) we need to trigger the daily build for that branch, let me quickly search the url for that
[21:35] <mterry> Chipaca, pfft, 15.04 is old hat, even if we are shipping a point release :)
[21:35] <Chipaca> go's "compatibility promise", on which they base not supporting releases for more than ~6 months, has bit us before now, so
[21:35] <mvo> rsalveti: https://code.launchpad.net/~snappy-dev/+recipe/snappy-daily/ <- thats the page
[21:36] * mvo wishes we had git-dch for bzr or git so that it would auto-create the debian/changelog from the vcs comments
[21:41] <rsalveti> mvo: awesome, thanks
[21:42] <rsalveti> yeah
[21:45] <rsalveti> Chipaca: can I just cross lp:~jamesodhunt/ubuntu/vivid/ubuntu-core-upgrader/add-sync-calls and lp:~jamesodhunt/ubuntu/vivid/ubuntu-core-upgrader/use-os-sync ?
[21:46] <Chipaca> rsalveti: AIUI if you're asking, no
[21:46] <Chipaca> rsalveti: mvo said he could do it, you told him you could and that he shouldn't be here
[21:46] <Chipaca> rsalveti: or maybe i misunderstood
[21:47] * mvo is confused now ;)
[21:47] <rsalveti> Chipaca: sorry, you said earlier that you tried merging jhunt's branches and got a 0 diff
[21:47] * rsalveti reads backlog
[21:48] <mvo> yeah, the use-os-sync was merged but not uploaded, I uploaded that now to the ppa and to wily
[21:48] <rsalveti> yeah, then all good
[21:49] <rsalveti> crossing then
[21:49] <mvo> https://launchpad.net/~snappy-dev/+archive/ubuntu/image/+packages should have the info looks like its indeed there
[21:50] <rsalveti> awesome
[21:50] <mvo> Chipaca: I need to buy you tea (or beer) for all the silly mistakes you need to endure in my branches, thanks a lot for spotting these issues
[21:51] * Chipaca blushes
[21:51] <Chipaca> mvo: you've put up with a lot of nonsense in my branches, glad to be finally paying it back :D
[21:51] <mvo> lol
[21:52] <Chipaca> still have to learn to do reviews like yours though; almost makes me want to put more mps up just to get them :)
[21:53] <Chipaca> ANYway, i should put down the computer and go wash the dishes and get the house ready for the night
[21:53] <mvo> Chipaca: a more serious question about the oauth signing branch, you point out (correctly) that buf.Grow(len(inputString)*3) may be too small and I need to count the bytes. should I simply use len(s)*3 (quotes) *4 (utf-8 len) - or convert the str to bytes before checking the len?
[21:53] <Chipaca> mvo: you're converting it to bytes anyway
[21:54] <Chipaca> mvo: might as well do it earlier
[21:54] <mvo> Chipaca: do that, I will call it a day soon too
[21:54] <mvo> Chipaca: yeah, sounds sensible
[21:54] <mvo> Chipaca: thanks a bunch
[22:17] <mvo> rsalveti: its hopefully all prepared for the release-candidate, just ping me again if there is anything that needs work. I will keep a eye on my mail to see if my MPs get approved
[22:17] <rsalveti> mvo: sure, thanks so much
[22:19] <mvo> your welcome!
[22:19] * mvo &
[23:46] <rsalveti> sergiusens: https://code.launchpad.net/~mvo/snappy/snappy-lp1460152-workaround/+merge/261144 would only work if the base image (stable) already had such changes, right?
[23:47] <rsalveti> it seems our problem is that we'll be updating from stable to edge using the tools that are currently available at stable
[23:47] <rsalveti> so it would only work after doing another update
[23:48] <rsalveti> guess that's the usual problem of updating using the tools available from the older image (like we had with touch)
[23:53] <rsalveti> added a comment to the MR (for lp:snappy)
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[04:50] <barrydk> More almal
[05:54] <Kilos> morning barrydk inetpro and others
[06:19] <mazal> Morning everyone
[06:19] <Kilos> hi mazal
[06:19] <mazal> Oom Kilos , thank you for the link. I am testing that app as we speak
[06:19] <mazal> Already made an iso , busy installing it to another pc to test
[06:19] <Kilos> oh the new backup thing
[06:20] <Kilos> cool let me know
[06:21] <mazal> Will , just imaging the test pc first
[06:21] <mazal> will do*
[06:21] <mazal> In case it don't work
[06:22] <Kilos> b ut apparently remastersys should keep on working as well
[06:22] <mazal> This is better oom , more features
[06:22] <mazal> If it works
[06:23] <mazal> And I think it will be developed more , unlike remaster that is dead
[06:25] <mazal> My favourite imaging tool seems to be dead too :( redo backup
[06:25] <Kilos> ai!
[06:38] * mazal wishles a tune while he waits
[06:39] <mazal> Ag nee I give up , I can not spell or type
[06:40] <Kilos> lol
[06:40] <Kilos> wistles
[06:40] <Kilos> oo
[06:40] <Kilos> whistle
[06:40] <Kilos> oh my
[06:41] <Kilos> Maaz spell whistle
[06:41] <Maaz> Kilos: That seems correct. Carry on
[06:43] <pieter2627> morning all
[06:44] <Kilos> hi pieter2627
[06:44] <Kilos> luckily we got this tab complete or i would type pietie everytime
[06:44] <Kilos> hi that
[06:44] <Kilos> ai!
[06:45] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy
[06:46] <pieter2627> haha
[07:08] <ThatGraemeGuy> morning :)
[07:46] <mazal> Oom Kilos
[07:46] <Kilos> ya seun
[07:46] <mazal> No info yet , the installer unable to wipe the current partition
[07:46] <Kilos> hi Cryterion
[07:46] <mazal> dd unable to wipe current partition
[07:46] <Kilos> welcome to ubuntu-za
[07:47] <mazal> I am now trying another boot cd to that have a drive eraser to try and get the current partition off as the installer doesn't work with that one on
[07:47] <Kilos> hmm...
[07:47] <mazal> Even dd does nothing to wipe the drive
[07:47] <mazal> Unless my dd command was wrong
[07:47] <Kilos> oh my
[07:47] <Cryterion> Hi, tks
[07:48] <mazal> Hi Cryterion , welcome here ;)
[07:48] <Kilos> boot from the new thing and look for gparted
[07:48] <mazal> gparted failed also
[07:48] <mazal> Wiped it 5 times with gparted
[07:48] <Kilos> hmm...
[07:48] <mazal> When installer starts , current partition re-apears
[07:48] <ThatGraemeGuy> try contacting a priest, maybe it needs an exorcism. sounds like it might be possessed
[07:48] <Kilos> zero i
[07:48] <Kilos> it
[07:49] <Kilos> lol
[07:49] <mazal> I even tried sudo dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/sda1
[07:49] <mazal> To zero it , didn't work
[07:49] <ThatGraemeGuy> open it up and splash some holy water on the platters
[07:49] <Kilos> wait
[07:49] <ThatGraemeGuy> (not really please don't open hard disks)
[07:49] <mazal> Now I am trying another app on another linux boor cd to zero it
[07:50] <mazal> boot*
[07:50] <Kilos> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=512 count=1
[07:50] <Kilos> wait more
[07:50] <Kilos> dc3dd wipe=/dev/sdX
[07:51] <mazal> I am amazed that gparted failed , never seen that before
[07:51] <mazal> Unless this drive is physically something wrong
[07:51] <Kilos> look at disk utility as well if those commands dont work
[07:52] <mazal> And gparted was run from boot cd without mounting that drive , on 2 different os boot cd's
[07:52] <mazal> both failed
[07:52] <Kilos> try the wipe one first
[07:52] <mazal> K oom , waiting for the current drive wipe app to complete and will test again. Then will try those commands
[07:53] <mazal> Looks like the current one is doing something as I am at least getting some progress output
[07:53] <Kilos> disk utility shows lots of info
[07:53] <Kilos> ah
[07:54] <mazal> Didn't have this once before a while back oom ?
[07:54] <mazal> you*
[07:54] <Kilos> what?
[07:54] <mazal> Where a drive struggled to get partition of
[07:55] <Kilos> ya a few times with different drives but i use many tools
[07:55] <Kilos> last resort is always boot from 98 cd and fdisk
[07:56] <mazal> lol
[07:56] <mazal> dd is my last resort always
[07:56] <Kilos> also ubcd is good at times
[07:56] <mazal> If that fails I get stuck
[07:56] <Kilos> disk utility
[07:56] <Kilos> will tell you whats up
[07:57] <Kilos> the gnome one
[07:57] <mazal> The current one ( disk eraser on parted magic ) is only at 48% now running very slow , so I think it's working
[07:58] <ThatGraemeGuy> do you want to wipe the disk?
[07:58] <mazal> Yeah
[07:58] <mazal> I want to do a install on it , but installers fails to get current partition of
[07:58] <Kilos> i like gnome-disk-utility, it can do lots too
[07:59] <mazal> Then install can't continue , so then started battling the get the current partitio of
[08:00] <ThatGraemeGuy> try wiping mbr, sudo dd if =/dev/zero of =/dev/sda bs=512 count=1
[08:00] <mazal> Will try if current runs fails also thanx
[08:01] <mazal> I tried that command , just without the bs and count at the end and didn't work
[08:01] <ThatGraemeGuy> on /dev/sda or /dev/sda1
[08:01] <Kilos> use the complete command man
[08:01] <mazal> tried both Graeme sda and sda1
[08:01] <ThatGraemeGuy> sudo dd if =/dev/zero of =/dev/sda bs=512 count=1
[08:01] <ThatGraemeGuy> try that
[08:02] <ThatGraemeGuy> if that doesn't work then the disk is likely a dud
[08:02] <mazal> Will do if current fails , don't want to interrupt that one now
[08:02] <ThatGraemeGuy> no space between 'of' and '=', sorry
[08:03] <ThatGraemeGuy> old drive?
[08:03] <mazal> Not really , 3 years
[08:03] <ThatGraemeGuy> yeah probably dying/dead
[08:03] <mazal> Will defnitely not put something very important on it now
[08:04] <mazal> Will finish testing , put image back , give to user I don't like lol :)
[08:05] <mazal> I see this app that is currently running is using dc3dd , is that a varient of dd ?
[08:05] <Kilos> lol
[08:06] <Kilos> that was a command i got from one of the lubuntu dev guys
[08:07] <Kilos> dc3dd wipe=/dev/sdX
[08:07] <Kilos> is that what you are using?
[08:07] <mazal> 75%
[08:07] <mazal> Almost there
[08:08] <mazal> Kilos: That what the app is using that I am using
[08:08] <Kilos> ah
[08:09] <mazal> Is part of a boot cd called " parted magic ". We normally use it to copy data of from drives that has broken OS's and can't boot
[08:12] <Kilos> you can also get this http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/download.html
[08:13] <mazal> I have that somewhere
[08:13] <Kilos> takes lots of thinking though
[08:13] <mazal> Backed up so well that I can't remember where
[08:14] <Kilos> lol
[08:14] <mazal> Yeah I used it once , and it was a bit confusing
[08:16] <mazal> May I ask what that the bs and count stand for in the dd command ?
[08:16] <Kilos> work
[08:16] <mazal> block size ?
[08:17] <Kilos> i dunno i just use it
[08:17] <Kilos> its like driving a car, you dont need to know how the engine works
[08:18] <MaNI> block size
[08:18] <MaNI> it writes count blocks of bs size - the two combined is your total size
[08:19] <mazal> thanx
[08:19] <Kilos> ty MaNI
[08:20] <mazal> ok , done , let's try the install again
[08:30] <mazal> Drive is finally clean , install started , Kilos should have some feedback in 40 min or so
[08:30] <Kilos> ok
[08:34] <Kilos> morning superfly
[08:36] <superfly> naandsê Kilos
[08:37] <Kilos> lol
[08:41] <mazal> Kilos: Works flawlessny , installs successfully , BUT it took over all my configs and data. Needs to check where to disable that
[08:41] <mazal> Is fine when you re-install own pc , but don't want that installing to someone else's pc
[08:41] <Kilos> what size was the iso?
[08:42] <mazal> 2.9gig
[08:42] <mazal> I don't have much in my home , just some docs and mail
[08:42] <mazal> And it also have 4gig size limit
[08:42] <mazal> Same as remaster
[08:42] <Kilos> yes, check if one can do it as a install only not a backup
[08:42] <mazal> k
[08:42] <mazal> will do
[09:08] * Padroni greets the room
[09:11] * ThatGraemeGuy nods
[09:11] <Kilos> hi Padroni
[09:12] <Kilos> you well?
[09:12] <Padroni> I am good
[09:12] <Padroni> crazy busy :/
[09:13] <Kilos> ah
[09:59] <magespawn> good day
[10:08] <ThatGraemeGuy> if you say so
[10:08] <ThatGraemeGuy> ;-p
[10:08] <Kilos> hi magespawn
[10:09] <Kilos> kinda winter here
[10:09] <ThatGraemeGuy> yeah I had to find my scarf & beanie this morning, brrrr! :-o
[10:13] <barrydk> Lekker man lekker
[10:13] <Kilos> lol
[10:14] <barrydk> Kilos: mazal se hy sal nou kom rapporteer as ins internet hou, kry ook seker mar koud shame, hy is an en af vanmore
[10:15] <Kilos> dankie barrydk
[10:15] <mazal> Om Kilos , feedback:
[10:15] <Kilos> yip?
[10:16] <mazal> 1. Creation side. App uses gui interface than can be tricky as there is no manual or documentation at all. Once you know what to do and where to do it , it works very easily
[10:16] <mazal> 2. User configs at creation side: There is an option to disable user data transfer , however even with it disabled my configs still transfered to iso
[10:16] <Kilos> write the documentation for them
[10:17] <mazal> This is either a big or intended , I dunnno , but that bit bothers me a bit
[10:17] <mazal> 3. Installation side: Again can be tricky as no documentation exists. Ths iso boots normally but them at first glance it seems there is no install option at all
[10:18] <mazal> After some fiddling I discovered you have to run the app on the live iso itself which triggers the installation
[10:18] <mazal> IE: While running on the live iso , go to system and start up systemback
[10:19] <mazal> Installation itself is very easy , but again one strange option caused some dofficulty
[10:20] <mazal> When doing partitioning , there is an arrow that says " edit partition information " , which actually is " apply current changes "
[10:20] <mazal> If you don't click this and think it is actually and edit option as the description says then you can't continue
[10:21] <mazal> After finding that out through trial and error I did the install , which itself runs very fast and easy
[10:21] <mazal> New username , password and hostname can be set
[10:21] <mazal> 4. Transfer of user data at installation side: Here is a big flaw imo
[10:22] <mazal> By default this is set to "on" at installation. Your user settings will be transfered to the new install
[10:22] <mazal> So if you give the iso for someone to try out and he/she doesn't manually disable that during installation they will have all you configs , passwords etc.
[10:23] <mazal> This problem exists even if you did disable it during iso creation.
[10:23] <TinuvaMac> http://www.piedpiper.com/ and http://www.hooli.xyz/
[10:23] <ThatGraemeGuy> holy wall of text batman
[10:23] <mazal> Apart from that problem and lack of documentation that explains how the program actually works , it is a very nice app that works excellent and fast
[10:23] <ThatGraemeGuy> what app?
[10:24] <mazal> ThatGraemeGuy: systemback , a live iso creator I tested for Kilos
[10:24] <ThatGraemeGuy> oh
[10:24] <ThatGraemeGuy> sounds like work
[10:24] <mazal> remastersys is dead so looking for alternatives
[10:25] <mazal> Kilos: Test was done on Kubunu , dunno if it works on unity as well
[10:25] <ThatGraemeGuy> what would you use such a thing for?
[10:26] <mazal> Quickly re-install a system withou having to do updates or install all the extra apps needed
[10:26] <Kilos> to do updated installs on other pcs ThatGraemeGuy
[10:26] <ThatGraemeGuy> uuuuhhh
[10:26] <ThatGraemeGuy> k
[10:26] <mazal> is also very handy for new users who want to try Ubuntu and don't even know how to add repos and install apps
[10:26] <magespawn> without the need to connect to the internet on the machine being updated or installed
[10:27] <mazal> yep
[10:27] <mazal> Everything is as the source machine was when iso was made , excluding user data
[10:27] <ThatGraemeGuy> #thirdworldproblems
[10:27] <ThatGraemeGuy> lol
[10:28] <mazal> I use it myself when I re-install. Saves lots of time and data
[10:29] <mazal> Even extra repos added is as is
[10:29] <ThatGraemeGuy> i have a puppet recipe i run if i need to re-install for some reason
[10:30] <mazal> For me is purely a time saving and data saving measure and works very well
[10:33] <mazal> Kilos: So for me , the verdict is fine for your own machine , but I would not give a iso made by this app for a friend. There is no gaurentee he/she will remember to disable the "transfer user config" setting
[10:34] <mazal> They should change it that if you disabled that at creation then it should not be in the iso at all
[10:34] <Kilos> if you do then you give the how to as well
[10:35] <Kilos> maybe you can disable it before you make he iso
[10:37] <magespawn> mazal if you were going to do this to make iso for other people to use you could do a generic machine there fore no user sensitive data
[10:37] <Kilos> hi gremble
[10:38] <mazal> Yeah , good idea magespawn
[10:40] <gremble> Hey Kilos
[11:41] <Kilos> hmm...
[12:53] <Padroni> if you send the following via Skype, it will crash skype on both ends:
[12:53] <Padroni> http://:
[12:53] <TinuvaMac> except there is an update out for it
[12:53] <Padroni> yeah but who updates skype?
[12:54] <Padroni> and the update is only for iOS as far as I know
[12:54] <Padroni> Sorry, skype for Mac is unaffected
[12:54] <Padroni> tried it yesterday - works on my skype
[13:04] <MaNI> they don't even mention linux, I think they have forgotten they even have a linux client
[13:04] <MaNI> which is maybe a good thing so that they can't ruin it as much as the others
[13:05] <Padroni> meh
[13:05] <Padroni> I do not trust anything out of the USA anymore.
[13:05] <MaNI> windows client gets worse with every release
[13:05] <Padroni> Skype / Dropbox / Google Drive / Gmail / etc
[13:05] <MaNI> I've never trusted google anything
[13:06] <Padroni> NSA has free range to spy on anything by a foreigner that goes past the US border
[13:06] <MaNI> and not because of NSA/USA but because of google themselves :p
[13:07] <MaNI> I begrudgingly use dropbox for some clients, it is overrated to put it nicely
[13:07] <MaNI> skype unfortunately I have no choice, too many clients use it
[13:07] <MaNI> and as bad as it has become the alternatives still seem to be worse, I don't understand why something better hasn't come out
[13:09] <Padroni> preach it, bro
[13:09] <Padroni> I use mega.co.nz as a Dropbox replacement
[13:09] <Padroni> 50GB storage
[13:10] <Padroni> run by Kim Dotcom (ex megaupload)
[13:10] <MaNI> but yeah we made it company policy not to talk about internal company stuff on skype anymore at least
[13:10] <MaNI> so only for customers who insist on using it
[13:11] <MaNI> problem with kim dotcom is that he will probably get raided again at some point
[13:13] <MaNI> 50gb is pretty tempting though
[14:18] <gremble> Skype for linux is also supposed to be unaffected
[14:24] <magespawn> can you use your skype account with another client, say pidgin?
[14:26] <Padroni> i have no idea
[14:26] <ThatGraemeGuy> yes and no
[14:27] <ThatGraemeGuy> you can, but the way it plugs in, you still need the actual skype client running
[14:27] <magespawn> ahh right
[14:27] <Padroni> well that is just silly
[14:27] <Padroni> but - this being a MS program
[14:27] <ThatGraemeGuy> so pidgin acts as a front-end for the skype client, it can't speak the skype protocol on its own
[14:27] <Padroni> makes all the sense in the world
[14:27] <ThatGraemeGuy> its been like that since day 1
[14:27] <magespawn> not much point really
[14:27] <Padroni> even worse
[14:27] <ThatGraemeGuy> but let me not get in the way of mindless Microsoft-bashing, carry on
[14:28] <Padroni> I am not a fan. Sue me...
[14:28] <Padroni> ;
[14:28] <Padroni> ;)
[14:28] <ThatGraemeGuy> nothing wrong with that
[14:29] <Padroni> I think I have reached unproductive 'o clock
[14:30] <magespawn> yup just about home time too
[14:34] <Padroni> what just happened?
[14:36] <magespawn> you left and came back uncloaked
[14:37] <Padroni> odd
[14:37] <Padroni> time to go to bed, methinks.
[14:37] <Padroni> Have a good one, folks
[14:37] <Kilos> lol
[14:42] <magespawn> right that is me out of here too, chat later all
[17:28] <magespawn> good evening
[17:29] <Kilos> hi magespawn
[17:30] <magespawn> twice in one day hey Kilos
[17:31] <Kilos> ye4ah i like you
[17:31] <Kilos> hehe
[17:31] <Kilos> you one of my early helpers
[17:31] <Kilos> and didnt tell me rtfs all the time
[17:32] <Kilos> ohi inetpro ,didnt see you lurking there
[17:35] <magespawn> hmm. lol
[17:36] <magespawn> still learning even now though
[17:40] <magespawn> installing vlc on centos, at the moment
[17:41] <Kilos> vlc works everywhere i think
[17:42] <magespawn> yup, not in the standard repos for centos though
[17:48] <magespawn> different working with yum etc. takes a a little of bit getting used to
[17:49] <Kilos> hehe
[17:53] <gremble> Isn't yum deprecated?
[17:53] <magespawn> still works here, i am running 6.6
[17:55] <magespawn> i could not find 7 for i386/32bit
[17:58] <gremble> Ah, yes. dnf will start replacing yum in fedora 22. You're probably not running fedora. CentOS?
[17:58] <Kilos> are you using it just to learn with magespawn
[17:58] <Kilos> the yum thing i mean
[18:00] <magespawn> gremble yup
[18:01] <magespawn> yes Kilos the new Linux+ uses both debian/ubuntu and rhel/centos examples in the book
[18:01] <Kilos> sjoe
[18:04] <magespawn> brb
[18:06] <stickyboy> yum winning
[18:06] <Kilos> ugh
[18:08] <magespawn> back
[18:08] <Kilos> wb magespawn
[18:09] <Kilos> you keep learning, its good for you
[18:09] <Kilos> just dont get like pro and get forgetful
[18:09] * Kilos hides
[18:09] <stickyboy> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Li3hXsDtMak
[18:10] <stickyboy> Meek Mill mixtape...
[18:10] <stickyboy> Now time to write some ansible playbooks.
[18:12] <magespawn> hmm still not playing the videos i wanted to watch, something else must be missing/wrong
[18:12] <stickyboy> magespawn: CentOS 6 on the desktop. LOL.
[18:12] <stickyboy> you crazy, br0.
[18:12] <magespawn> hah, just doing it for the experience really
[18:13] <gremble> CentOS is good to work with if you're doing any LPI stuff
[18:13] <gremble> CentOS or perhaps SuSE
[18:13] <magespawn> gremble: that is the plan, busy working my way through the comptia linux + study guide
[18:14] <stickyboy> SuSE is Novell and Novell is no.
[18:14] <stickyboy> #nope
[18:14] <stickyboy> CentOS is great. I run my compute / storage cluster on it at work. 10 machines...
[18:14] <stickyboy> But web / database? Ubuntu 14.04. Nice mix of stable and features.
[18:18] <gremble> Or be brave and use gentoo
[18:20] <inetpro> good mornings
[18:20] <Kilos> lol
[18:20] <Kilos> hello inetpro
[18:20] <stickyboy> gremble: Arch++
[18:20] <gremble> Hey inetpro. You're just in time. We are about to help Kilos install gentoo
[18:21] <stickyboy> Arch is like Gentoo without having to re-compile your system every few days. ;)
[18:21] <Kilos> lol nono i know my limits
[18:21] <gremble> So far I haven't found a system that I like more than Arch.
[18:21] <Kilos> i only use stuff pro and fly can help me with
[18:21] <stickyboy> gremble: Mmmm :)
[18:21] <stickyboy> gremble: I got two Arch systems.
[18:21] <stickyboy> It is really nice. Simple...
[18:22] <gremble> I feel like I want to use NixOS and voidlinux still
[18:22] <stickyboy> I love the "upstream stable" policy of Arch.
[18:22] <stickyboy> gremble: Indeed, I also want to try NixOS.
[18:23] <inetpro> lol
[18:23] * inetpro should perhaps try gentoo at some point
[18:23] <inetpro> just so I can say, been there done that
[18:24] <gremble> Sure, grab an old laptop, play around while watching TV
[18:24] <inetpro> ai!
[18:24] <gremble> You'll need something to keep you busy with while everything compiles
[18:24] <gremble> Or fails to
[18:24] <gremble> :P
[18:24] <inetpro> exactly why I don't go there
[18:25] <inetpro> but sounds like fun to build only what you really need
[18:26] <Kilos> play minetest then
[18:26] <gremble> That is exactly why I run arch instead of prerolled distros
[18:27] <inetpro> reminds me of the days when we started by compiling gcc with gcc
[18:27] <gremble> :P
[18:27] <gremble> I'm busy with a lisp interpreter in haskell.
[18:27] <stickyboy> inetpro: Linux From Scratch. :D
[18:27] <stickyboy> I did LFS a few times.
[18:27] <gremble> I want to make a haskell interpreter in that lisp so it is full circle
[18:27] <gremble> :P
[18:27] <inetpro> stickyboy: no that was on Solaris
[18:28] <inetpro> so much is taken for granted these days
[18:28] <gremble> Such as?
[18:29] <inetpro> everything just works :-)
[18:29] <gremble> :P
[18:30] <inetpro> ok maybe not everything
[18:30] <stickyboy> inetpro: Yes hehe.
[18:30] <stickyboy> Man, we used to have to configure refresh rates in XF86. :P
[18:30] <stickyboy> And if you get the modeline wrong your monitor could be toast.
[18:30] <stickyboy> hehehehe
[18:31] <magespawn> sounds like a lot of fun
[18:40] <magespawn> a good way to get new hardware, if you do not like the old
[18:40] <Kilos> haha
[18:43] <gremble> Someone is selling lenovo T540's quite cheaply.. but apparently they brick when you try and install linux. Completely crippling the motherboard
[18:43] <gremble> Makes me sad
[18:43] <gremble> haha
[18:43] <Kilos> why would that be
[18:43] <Kilos> bios corrupt
[18:43] <magespawn> how would that happen?
[18:44] <Kilos> something in bios is win only
[18:44] <Kilos> flash bios
[18:44] <magespawn> flash it?
[18:44] <Kilos> upgrade to original manufacturer bios
[18:45] <Kilos> gremble what is quite cheaply
[18:48] <gremble> The lenovo bios(or rather uefi I think) is one of those ugly ones that do the magic to make windows boot faster
[18:48] <gremble> R2500 each
[18:48] <gremble> They're refurbished
[18:48] <magespawn> can you not set them to legacy boot/
[18:48] <magespawn> ?
[18:49] <gremble> The fix is apparently to reflash the lenovo firmware
[18:49] <magespawn> from where?
[18:49] <gremble> Newer firmware
[18:49] <gremble> so Lenovo
[18:50] <gremble> I am not sure what the process of flashing entails
[18:50] <gremble> I think I did it once when I was like 12
[18:50] <magespawn> i was talking about the laptops themselves
[18:51] <stickyboy> EFI stub boot is winning
[18:51] <gremble> Oh, I have no idea
[18:51] <gremble> could be stolen :P
[18:51] <gremble> It probably isnt
[18:51] <magespawn> okay then
[18:51] <gremble> hahaha
[18:52] <gremble> With cheap things like that, I believe in a dont ask, don't tell framework
[18:52] <gremble> :P
[18:52] <magespawn> hmm, that might be a good thing to find out
[18:54] <Kilos> gremble you have the specs for them?
[18:55] <gremble> i7's with 8GB ram. More specific specs you can just look at the T540 specs online
[18:55] <gremble> Not sure about the harddrive sizes though
[18:55] <magespawn> that is a good price then, i would like to get my hands on one of those
[18:56] <Kilos> wow thats a nice lappy
[18:56] <Kilos> must be able to flash
[18:56] <magespawn> i am using a 40Gb here, so anything would be an improvement
[18:56] <gremble> ^ same :P
[18:56] <gremble> compaq 6510b
[18:56] <gremble> :P
[18:57] <magespawn> mecer experession dl75
[18:57] <magespawn> expression
[18:57] <Kilos> i had one pc with xp i hink that flashed from the OS
[18:58] <Kilos> others you need a boot flash disk
[19:07] <inetpro> Kilos: are you and your board members ready for the meeting this time around?
[19:08] <Kilos> some cant make it so im hoping others popin, but we got 2 early votes so i need to just find out about the quorum thing
[19:08] <Kilos> ty for the hard work inetpro TB warns me every morning hehe
[19:09] <Kilos> even about no meetings
[19:09] <inetpro> uh
[19:09] <inetpro> Kilos: you need 4 members IIRC
[19:10] <Kilos> yes but what happens if you already have two early votes, can 2 then have the meet still
[19:10] <Kilos> im trying to find that out
[19:10] <inetpro> what is 2 early votes?
[19:10] <Kilos> because they cant attend because of project releases etc
[19:11] <Kilos> so they mailed the board their votes after reading the wiki pages
[19:11] <Kilos> and i think they know some of the new applicants
[19:12] <inetpro> well... does it really matter?
[19:12] <Kilos> thats what i want to find out
[19:13] <inetpro> ping your team sir and make sure they be there
[19:13] <Kilos> lol
[19:13] <Kilos> im nagging all the time
[19:13] <inetpro> ai!
[19:14] <inetpro> just use a bit tact
[19:14] <Kilos> ya
[19:14] <inetpro> "Tact is the art of making a point without making an enemy." - Isaac Newton
[19:14] <Kilos> hibana got the sjambok
[19:14] <inetpro> no no no...
[19:15] <Kilos> lol
[19:15] <Kilos> i needed that laugh
[19:15] <inetpro> let him keep that rather
[19:15] <Kilos> kinda cold here
[19:15] <inetpro> very cold
[19:15] <Kilos> gonna ice tonight
[19:15] <gremble> Newton should probably not be commenting on tact
[19:15] <gremble> :P
[19:15] <gremble> He had little to no social skills
[19:15] <gremble> :P
[19:15] <magespawn> never said he had any
[19:16] <inetpro> gremble: ai! :-)
[19:16] <Kilos> i am very tactful
[19:16] <Kilos> as long as everyone agrees with me
[19:17] <gremble> remoteinterview.io
[19:17] <gremble> https://codepad.remoteinterview.io
[19:18] <Kilos> eish i need lotsa data
[19:18] <Kilos> they even interview live
[19:18] <Kilos> cc okes i think
[19:19] <magespawn> gremble what is that?
[19:19] <gremble> Pairprogramming
[19:19] <gremble> remotely
[19:19] <gremble> Pretty cool
[19:20] <gremble> https://codepad.remoteinterview.io/#?roomid=V07jz4QVG8
[20:07] <magespawn> yes indeed, also a good way to learn
[20:10] <inetpro> Kilos: \o/
[20:10] <inetpro> nice to see you actually have a real meeting for a change
[20:11] <Kilos> hehe
[20:11] * inetpro lurking for a few minutes
[20:11] <inetpro> need to go sleep actually
[20:12] <Kilos> lol
[20:12] <magespawn> might be a good idea
[20:12] <Kilos> sleep tight
[20:17] <magespawn> gremble: looks like it is actually set up to do a interview type test
[20:17] <magespawn> s/a/an
[20:21] <gremble> That is the name for it, but it is equally useful for pair programming. Although for that it is not difficult to use codepen or spinning up a VPS and ssh'ing into a screen session
[20:21] <gremble> I've done both. Cooperative coding is really odd
[21:01] <magespawn> i would like to watch a session
[21:02] <superfly> Pad<tab>
[21:03] <superfly> I got his mail, anyways.
[21:21] <magespawn> time for bed anyway, good night
[21:23] <gremble> Cheers
[21:24] <Kilos> hehe
[21:24] <Kilos> you saying cheers to mage gremble ?
[21:24] <Kilos> or you going
[21:25] <gremble> Saying good night to the person leaving
[21:25] <Kilos> good, im normally asleep by now
[21:26] <melodie> good night
[21:26] <gremble> good night melodie
[21:26] <melodie> Kilos go get your night sleep! :D
[21:26] <melodie> good night gremble thants
[21:26] <gremble> He has a meeting to attend
[21:26] <Kilos> i cant one more meet in 15 mins
[21:26] <Kilos> night melodie see you tomorrow
[21:26] <Kilos> sorry
[21:27] <melodie> don't be sorry
[21:27] <melodie> good night good night²³
[21:27] <melodie> :D
[21:28] <gremble> I think I am going to do that as well
[21:30] <Kilos> night gremble sleep tight
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[00:59] <Riddell> anyone able to confirm the fix for bug 1461725 ?
[01:14] <Riddell> ScottK: are you still doing SRU?
[01:14] <Riddell> bug 1449472 verified
[02:07] <ahoneybun> how do you restart krunner?
[02:11] <Riddell> killall krunner; krunner
[02:25] <ScottK> Riddell: didn't quit yet
[02:27] <Riddell> ScottK: ksnakeduel got a fixed version now in -proposed
[02:29] <ScottK> Will try and look at it later
[02:46] <ahoneybun> Riddell: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11555545/ ?
[02:48] <Riddell> ahoneybun: does it cause a problem?
[02:54] <ahoneybun> well if I run that command in konsole, krunner works, but when I close konsole it does not work anymore
[02:54] <ahoneybun> not till a reboot
[02:54] * ahoneybun wonders if it has to do with ubuntu sdk
[03:20] <Riddell> ahoneybun: well yes if you close the shell it'll kill stuff in that shell
[03:20] <ahoneybun> yea of course, but how do I keep it running?
[06:34] <Riddell> https://paste.kde.org/pnitbkltv nice if confusing e-mail du jour
[06:35] <Tm_T> subscribe?
[07:03] <valorie> I wonder which magazine gave away DVDs?
[07:42] <yofel> ahoneybun: "nohup krunner" would be one way, or just launch krunner from kickoff
[08:07] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:14] <Mirv> mitya57: if you refer to QtC I'm not sure and I might need to rephrase it, but it seemed some function had changed so that the current qbs wasn't suitable for the qtc snapshot. it's WIP at the moment and will not be uploaded for a little while, but I just cleaned it up so that the Ubuntu plugin developer can compile the leaner new plugin against it (a lot of Qt Creator changes have been upstreamed now)
[09:32] <soee_> good morning
[09:33] <lordievader> Hey soee_
[09:33] <lordievader> How are you doing?
[09:34] <soee_> lordievader: ah im not sure yet :) i went to bed ~ 4:00 in th emornign after whoel day coding, now in up and coding again :D
[09:34] <lordievader> Ugh...
[09:34] <soee_> but supper sunny day here :) you ?
[09:34] <lordievader> Meh, bit tired. Furthermore okay.
[09:48] <soee_> :)
[11:39] <mitya57> Mirv: ok. FWIW I plan to upload qbs 1.4.1 when it's released
[11:41] <Mirv> mitya57: nice! that would probably solve the issue.
[11:44] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[11:46] <mitya57> Mirv: (1.4 currently has lots of failing tests, in 1.4.1 some of them are fixed, others can be disabled probably)
[11:52] * sick_rimmit wases to BluesKaj
[11:52] * sick_rimmit then grins, Doh! Waves
[11:56] <BluesKaj> Hey sick_rimmit . how goes it?
[11:58] <sick_rimmit> Hi pretty good thanks...
[11:59] <sick_rimmit> Getting excited about Kubuntu Podcast launch with ovidiu-florin and ahoneybun
[12:00] <lordievader> Whoop whoop, where can I find details?
[12:07] <ahoneybun> sick_rimmit: I'll have some news from SELF for the Podcast
[13:00] <sick_rimmit> ahoneybun: That's excellent
[13:01] <sick_rimmit> lordievader: Google+ search for Kubuntu Podcast.. Sorry I am work and no logged into my G+ account, otherwise I'd give you a link
[13:15] <mparillo> http://wire.kubuntu.org/?p=319
[13:15] * lordievader goes to search for the podcast
[13:16] <lordievader> For anyone looking for the podcast: https://plus.google.com/112102796730023795852/posts
[14:45] <lordievader> Is it possible to upgrade Vivid with backports to Wily?
[14:47] <owlman> lordievader: I just did so, so yes
[14:48] <owlman> no problems so far....
[14:51] <lordievader> Cool, cool. I'll do so in a bit then.
[15:01] <BluesKaj> lordievader, why not just sed your sources.list , the update and upgrade, sudo sed -i 's/vivid/wily/g' /etc/apt/sources.list
[15:01] <lordievader> That is what I am going to do. But since the backports are only available for Vivid I figured I would ask first.
[15:06] <BluesKaj> whoa , lust checked the sources.list here, still had the -next ppa enabled ...now that's taking a chance
[15:06] <BluesKaj> just
[15:11] <owlman> I just used do-release-upgrade -d
[15:12] <lordievader> owlman: I just noticed I didn't have update-manager-core installed ...
[15:12] <lordievader> Doing update now, then the do-release-upgrade.
[15:14] <lordievader> Whee, down the rollercoaster :D
[15:14] <owlman> has anyone else had fun with virtualbox? I'm getting some weird results
[15:15] <clivejo> weird results?
[15:16] <owlman> plasma doesn't seem to like it. this is on wily, I'll try a vivid install
[15:18] <clivejo> doesnt like the client, or wily running inside the VM?
[15:19] <owlman> wily in the vm, vivid as host
[15:19] <clivejo> I have Windows 7 in a VB running on top of wily, seems to be working fine
[15:19] <clivejo> ah I see
[15:19] <clivejo> must try wily in a VB
[15:20] <BluesKaj> owlman, well we early adopters tend to start on the next release a week after an official release
[15:20] <lordievader> owlman: You could try kvm...
[15:20] <owlman> lordievader: my next approach
[15:20] <lordievader> \o/
[15:22] <clivejo> is there a fix for the "places" in dolphin issue?
[15:39] <Quintasan> ScottK: ping
[15:42] <BluesKaj> clivejo, the next kernel version seems to have it fixed, I'm on 15.10 which uses the 3.19.0-20 generic
[15:43] <clivejo> oh, maybe I need a reboot
[16:23] <ScottK> Quintasan: I'm here momentarily. What's up?
[16:26] <owlman> hey, is sytemsettings.power management sytemd aware yet?
[16:33] <Quintasan> ScottK: Do you have an amazon account?
[16:33] <Quintasan> ScottK: I want to buy a steam key but those bloody bastards want me to have a us credit card.
[16:35] <BluesKaj> Quintasan, what's wrong with euro credit cards?
[16:35] <Quintasan> BluesKaj: They are not american obviously.
[16:37] <BluesKaj> steam sounds absolutely provincial, they don't accept CCs from other countries, what kind of business are they running in this day and age
[16:41] <genii> BluesKaj: Reminds me of a weirdness with Ontario government websites for re-issuing your ID like birth certificate, etc. It somehow knows you are using a pre-paid credit card and won't accept it.
[16:42] <Quintasan> BluesKaj: that's amazon
[16:43] <Quintasan> Steam doesn't care where your card comes from
[16:43] <BluesKaj> probly the card itself then is suspect because it's prepaid
[16:53] <owlman> ok, virtualbox doesn't like vivid either
[16:54] <owlman> everything is fine until I install the virtualbox guest extensions
[17:03] <owlman> ah, it doesn't like 3D acceleration enabled
[17:04] <owlman> I'm purely guessing that it might be a problem with the compositor
[17:05] <owlman> with acceleration enabled the panel and applications don't seem to be rendered
[17:26] <owlman> hmm. disabling the compositor in system settings doesn't help
[17:36] <Riddell> claydoh: ping, did you get anywhere with kamoso?
[17:36] <Riddell> oh wait, wrong person
[17:36] <Riddell> I wanted clivejo
[17:38] <claydoh> Riddell: lol thto I am testing a webcam using your kamosos package as I type this :)
[17:38] <Riddell> claydoh: oh really? where's the package from?
[17:38] <claydoh> your ppa Riddell
[17:38] <Riddell> mm so an older version I think
[17:39] <claydoh> I think my cam is dying :(
[17:42] <claydoh> or my usb ports are
[17:50] <mparillo> owlman: Are you using Vivid as a VirtualBox host or guest? I am running Vivid (with backports) and Wily as guests on VMware Player (Win7 host).
[17:53] <Riddell> sitter: bundle exec ./merge.rb -o kubuntu_stable -o kubuntu_vivid_backports -t kubuntu_wily_archive plasma
[17:53] <Riddell> is that the right command?
[17:58] <owlman> mparillo: vivid as host, wily and vivid as guests
[18:03] <mparillo> For a Linux Host, if you want to try VMware Player (as I said, my use case is on my work computer (hence Win7 host), you need 64-bit Linux to run the latest release: https://my.vmware.com/web/vmware/free#desktop_end_user_computing/vmware_player/7_0|PLAYER-710|product_downloads
[18:05] <lordievader> Vivid allways worked fine on KVM.
[18:06] <owlman> lordievader: so qemu-kvm?
[18:07] <lordievader> owlman: Yes ;)
[18:08] <lordievader> With the VMVGA graphics adapter.
[18:13] <sitter> Riddell: willy builds are broken because of the oxygen font issue santa mentioned on the list
[18:13] <sitter> another merge whoopsie
[18:13] <Riddell> sitter: builds of what?
[18:13] <owlman> virtualbox works fine now I know to disable 3D acceleration in the guest
[18:14] <sitter> Riddell: ci
[18:30] <sitter> Riddell: you didn't pause integration it appears
[18:30] <sitter> also... you are now hogging all of CI
[18:31] <Riddell> hmm yes I should really write that in bigger letters
[19:14] <Riddell> plasma 5.3.1 going into kubuntu-ppa/next-staging
[19:17] <BluesKaj> Riddell, Stage 0 or...?
[19:17] <BluesKaj> I have stage-2 , commented
[19:18] <soee_> Riddell: on Wily ?
[19:18] <Riddell> soee_: yes
[19:18] <micahg> hi, what should my remote.origin.url be to push to the packaging repo appropriately in Debian?, I added my key to alioth (is there a new place now?)
[19:19] <Riddell> BluesKaj: “Kubuntu Next Stage 0 (DON'T USE)” cos that seems to have plasma in it already
[19:19] <Riddell> these all need renamed to have the name say what they're used for
[19:19] <BluesKaj> Riddell, ok thanks , guess I should have looked further
[19:20] <Riddell> hi micahg, I have this in my .gitconfig, is that what you want? https://paste.kde.org/pi5pynwjf
[19:20] <micahg> hrm, maybe?
[19:27] <micahg> haha, I think I just misconfigured something locally, Alioth FAQ FTW, http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/applications/krdc.git/commit/?h=kubuntu_wily_archive&id=112add3c6833ad6cf3f4f767abfa974d813e410b
[19:28] <micahg> Riddell: ^^ that ok like that, I have one more to fix up
[19:28] <Riddell> micahg: yes thanks
[19:29] <Riddell> micahg: how did you get on with digikam the other day?
[19:29] <micahg> I ended up disabling the plugin that used the library you removed, is the packaging repo for it up to date, I can add commits to it a bit later
[19:30] <micahg> when the new libkgeomap gets in, we can reenable
[19:30] <micahg> I don't see digikam in pkg-kde
[19:31] <micahg> ah, kde extras, svn
[19:33] <Riddell> http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/plasma-status/build_status_5.3.1_wily.html
[19:33] <micahg> sorry, I just stopped the installation of the plugin files: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/207643787/digikam_4%3A4.10.0-0ubuntu1_4%3A4.10.0-0ubuntu2.diff.gz
[19:33] <Riddell> micahg: ah yes that separated library is part of KDE Applications which as you have just discovered we haven't got round to updating yet
[19:33] <Riddell> micahg: I think I've just been using bzr for the digikam packaging, we need to sort out where that's going
[19:34] <micahg> ok, when that gets uploaded, I can reenable the plugins to install, I believe I updated the bzr branch
[19:45] <Riddell> lovely, thanks micahg
[20:27] <Riddell> sitter: shadeslayer ./kubuntu-retry-builds --plasma --ppa=kubuntu-ppa --ppaname=next-staging --force
[22:06] <valorie> oh gosh, my husband just arrived in Mammoth Lakes 2 weeks ahead of his schedule
[22:13] <Riddell> walking fast?
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2015-06-04-#ubuntu-br
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[00:08] <erikperin> falai pessoal
[00:10] <astroo-> ola
[02:42] <astroo-> ciao pessoal
[03:02] <zabuk> boa noite pessoal
[03:02] <zabuk> estou tentando fazer dual boot do windows 8 com ubuntu
[03:03] <zabuk> lembro que antigamente tinha opção pelo proprio live cd de fazer a instalação paralela
[03:03] <zabuk> mas ao meu ver o ubunut não esta reconhecendo
[03:04] <zabuk> alguem pode me acomselhar
[03:12] <KurtKraut> zabuk, Dê uma olhada em documentações e tutoriais sobre como instalar Ubuntu que considerem o UEFI na máquina e a existência do Windows 8. Com o advento de ambos (UEFI e Win8), a instalação de sistemas operacionais não-Windows ficou propositalmente dificultada
[03:12] <KurtKraut> zabuk, Passei pelo mesmo problema que você no meu notebook mas como o Windows nele não me faz falta, não me indignei de fazer um modo de bootar o Windows
[03:13] <zabuk> no meu caso sou contador preciso do windows pelos sistemas contabeis, mas pra uso pessoal só uso linux
[03:14] <KurtKraut> zabuk, Dê uma olhada em documentações e tutoriais sobre como instalar Ubuntu que considerem o UEFI na máquina e a existência do Windows 8. Com o advento de ambos (UEFI e Win8), a instalação de sistemas operacionais não-Windows ficou propositalmente dificultada
[03:14] <zabuk> ok
[16:12] <diegogiglio> moçada sou novato no ubuntu e resolvi instalar ele no meu note dell para abandonar o windão, só que ao instalar o driver da vga nvidia, quando vou ligá-lo a tela fica preta, fiz vários passos que estão na net e nada resolve, até já tentei recriar o xorg.conf, alguém pode dar uma força?
[16:14] <BrunoPT> diegogiglio: como é que instalou o driver?
[16:16] <diegogiglio> BruntoPT, pelo programas e atualizações
[16:17] <diegogiglio> a versão que estou usando é 346.72, meu ubuntu é 15.04 64bits
[16:18] <BrunoPT> diegogiglio: reinstale com este procedimento http://askubuntu.com/questions/41681/blank-screen-after-installing-nvidia-restricted-driver
[16:19] <BrunoPT> e renomeie/apague o xorg.conf
[16:19] <diegogiglio> blza, jaja volto pra falar se deu certo.
[16:30] <diegogiglio> BrunoPT, deu certo, agraço muito pela ajuda.
[16:33] <BrunoPT> diegogiglio: :)
[16:37] <diegogiglio> BrunoPT, desculpe a insistência, mas com esse procedimento eu continuo usando a aceleração gráfica?
[16:39] <BrunoPT> penso que sim, corra este comando glxinfo | grep OpenGL | grep renderer
[16:41] <diegogiglio> meu note tem 2 vga uma onboard para coisas básicas e uma nvidia 525m para alto desempenho, esse comando me mostrou somente informações sobre a da intel
[16:42] <diegogiglio> será que devo arriscar baixar o driver no site da nvidia ?
[16:45] <diegogiglio> achei um artigo vou tentar fazer o que recomenda aqui, só para compartilhar info: https://diariodomarcos.wordpress.com/2013/10/10/instalar-drivers-placas-graficas-intel-e-nvidia-para-quem-tem-um-notebook/
[17:26] <Leonardo_> Porque os sistemas operacionais linux ultimamente anda apresentando para instalação o i386 e o amd64? Eles rodam em um i5?
[17:28] <Leonardo_> Se rodam, por que amd64? Por que não teria um intel64 por exemplo?
[17:37] <oliverio> Leonardo_, roda sim. esqueça esses nomes. ;)
[18:06] <Leonardo_> E o que significa esses nomes?
[21:13] <astroo-> ola pessoal
[22:21] <diegogiglio> BrunoPT, cara fui fazer aquele lance de atualizar o driver da nvidia pelo .run e ai não ligava mais ficava voltando pra tela de login
[22:21] <diegogiglio> depois de muitas horas na cabeçada eu achei um artigo falando do bumblebee e foi ele quem resolveu
[22:22] <BrunoPT> diegogiglio: o bumblebee funciona com drivers proprietarios?
[22:22] <hggdh> diegogiglio: de forma geral não é uma boa ideia instalar drives de video directo do frabricante
pois é, descobri da pior forma possível.
[23:14] <Elfon_> alo
[23:14] <astroo-> ola
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2015-06-04-#ubuntu-locoteams
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[05:55] <Kilos> morning everyone
[05:57] <nhaines> Good morning!
[07:03] <dholbach> good morning
[07:08] <MooDoo> morning
[07:09] <Kilos> hello dholbach MooDoo
[07:13] <dholbach> hi Kilos MooDoo
[08:02] <elacheche> o/
[08:02] <Kilos> o/
[08:02] <Kilos> dont forget dholbach
[08:05] <dholbach> hey hey :)
[08:40] <elacheche> Hey dholbach :D
[09:05] <dholbach> hey elacheche
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2015-06-04-#ubuntu-desktop
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[06:10] <larsu> good morning!
[06:40] <mpt> “Unhandled Lockdown Error” would be a great name for a band
[07:10] <seb128> good morning desktopers
[07:16] <larsu> "I'm not an expert, but I don't think I need 114 instances of indicator-sound-service."
[07:17] <mpt> Oh dear, did the 115th one crash? That’s the one that plays the sound
[07:18] <larsu> haha
[07:18] * larsu updates the counter inside indicator-sound service to make it go to 115
[07:21] <willcooke> o/
[07:21] <larsu> morning willcooke!
[07:22] <seb128> hey willcooke
[07:22] <larsu> no pitti today?
[07:22] <seb128> seems not...
[07:22] <seb128> nah, I miss the time where I had scrollbars
[07:22] <seb128> Laney, larsu!!!!
[07:23] <larsu> I was the first person to talk in here at 8:10 today, so I guess not :)
[07:23] <larsu> seb128: you have *no* scrollbars?
[07:23] <seb128> no
[07:23] <seb128> no thumb, no bar, no color, no handle
[07:23] <seb128> nothing
[07:23] <seb128> in gedit or nautilus
[07:23] <seb128> I do have the overshot effect if I scroll with the pad though
[07:24] <larsu> mitya57: I see the point of not wanting to make it slower, but it's producing incorrect results now...
[07:24] <seb128> the overshot effect is buggy btw
[07:24] <seb128> if I'm of the top of a nautilus view and try to scroll up, it displays fully in a non smooth way and stay there for like 3s
[07:25] <larsu> you should see a scrollbar when hovering the window
[07:26] <seb128> not happening
[07:26] <larsu> trackpad?
[07:26] <seb128> dell lattitude with trackpad and nibble
[07:26] <seb128> I use the nibble
[07:26] <seb128> but seems the same with the trackpad
[07:26] <larsu> do you have the new overlay-scrollbar package? (is that even uploaded yet?)
[07:26] <seb128> touchpad
[07:27] <seb128> I upgraded with the ppa which is in the topic
[07:27] <seb128> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/+archive/ubuntu/ww
[07:27] <seb128> that has a new o-s
[07:29] <larsu> weird, I'm not getting that yet
[07:30] <seb128> oh, it works after unsetting GTK_MODULES
[07:30] <seb128> nothing forced to uninstall o-s-gtk3 for me and I didn't restart my session so the env is still set
[07:30] <seb128> that seems to make o-s not work and gtk scrollbars bug
[07:30] <larsu> Laney fixed that in the MR - we're only loading the module for gtk2
[07:31] <seb128> k
[07:31] <larsu> dunno if we need to handle that case tbh
[07:31] <seb128> oh man, those scrollbars are not nice :-/
[07:31] <larsu> well, they're not themed yet
[07:31] <seb128> k
[07:31] <seb128> I hope they are better once themed, but atm it feels like quite an user regression :-/
[07:32] <seb128> they are width
[07:32] <larsu> we can make them look however you want
[07:32] <larsu> and actually I'd like some input. notadesigner
[07:32] <seb128> my first reaction is "thinner"
[07:32] <larsu> the only thing we're regressing on is that they're not outside the window
[07:32] <larsu> seb128: ya, definitely!
[07:33] <larsu> even Adwaita has them thinner ... and that's saying something ;)
[07:33] <seb128> also the fact that they are rounder at the top/bottom looks weird in e.g gedit
[07:34] <seb128> in nautilus as well in fact
[07:34] <seb128> it looks weird to have a circle against a line
[07:34] <seb128> imho it would be nicer to just have flat borders
[07:34] <larsu> or none if you ask me, android style
[07:34] <larsu> just the thumb
[07:35] <larsu> but then, nobody's asking me
[07:35] <seb128> can we do that?
[07:35] <seb128> mpt, do you think somebody from design could help us and give some recommendation on how new gtk scrollbars should look like?
[07:36] <mpt> ha ha
[07:36] <seb128> mpt, atm they are like on http://tinyurl.com/nhkn93v
[07:37] <larsu> seb128: I've asked for a theme update countless times. We're not getting it.
[07:37] <seb128> larsu, https://blogs.gnome.org/mclasen/files/2013/08/zoomscrollbar.png looks much nicer
[07:37] <seb128> larsu, there is a difference between a theme update and UI recommendations
[07:38] <larsu> fair enough
[07:38] <seb128> like I guess a theme update would require work from an engineer
[07:38] <larsu> so does theming the scrollbars
[07:38] <seb128> where advising on UI details is a pure design thing
[07:38] <seb128> if they do the change
[07:39] <seb128> but it seemed you said you would be happy with them telling us what to do
[07:39] <seb128> like visual
[07:39] <seb128> even if they don't do the actual css changes
[07:39] <larsu> ya I would be, but they're not
[07:39] <seb128> larsu, I would start by doing what is on https://blogs.gnome.org/mclasen/files/2013/08/zoomscrollbar.png with orange as color
[07:39] <seb128> that doesn't have the round corner issue
[07:39] <seb128> nor the width one
[07:39] <larsu> yes, that was my first plan as well
[07:39] <seb128> why is GTK making default widget look buggy?
[07:40] <seb128> just to punish their non GNOME users?!
[07:40] <larsu> this is our theme :)
[07:40] <seb128> we made scrollbars wider on purpose?
[07:40] <larsu> yes
[07:40] <seb128> oh, ok
[07:40] <seb128> why?!
[07:40] <larsu> I don't know :)
[07:40] <mpt> Surely not
[07:40] <larsu> it's old code
[07:40] <larsu> but it's in there
[07:41] <seb128> oh, ok
[07:41] <larsu> I guess for people that turn off o-s?
[07:41] <TheMuso> Hey willcooke.
[07:41] <TheMuso> Hey folks.
[07:41] <seb128> let's delete scrollbar customizations then
[07:41] <larsu> seb128: default gtk is Adwaita now, regardless of if you're on GNOME or not
[07:41] <seb128> just change the color
[07:41] <Sweet5hark> moin
[07:41] <seb128> larsu, k, so it doesn't make sense we are keeping those old hacks
[07:41] <seb128> let's clean them out
[07:41] <seb128> less code ;-)
[07:41] <larsu> I agree
[07:42] <mpt> seb128, yes, just changing the background of the corners so that it is the same color as the trough border would be an improvement
[07:42] <larsu> mpt: no work has gone into theming those yet. All we did was turn off overlay-scrollbars
[07:42] <seb128> mpt, would the ones from https://blogs.gnome.org/mclasen/files/2013/08/zoomscrollbar.png with orange instead of blue look fine to you?
[07:44] <mpt> larsu, then how come the thumb looks the same (e.g. three little grooves) as Ambiance/Radiance in 14.04 with overlay scrollbars uninstalled?
[07:44] <mpt> I’m pretty sure Ambiance+Radiance aren’t inheriting from some other theme there
[07:45] <mpt> seb128, I don’t understand what’s going on in that screenshot. Is the thumb getting *smaller* when you mouse over it?
[07:45] <mpt> I.e. what’s the difference between those three states?
[07:46] <seb128> larsu, ^ do you know?
[07:46] <larsu> mpt: because Ambiance/Radiance has code for theming them when you uninstall overlay-scrollbars...
[07:46] <mpt> larsu, so it still has that same theming in Wily, right?
[07:46] <larsu> yes
[07:47] <seb128> mpt, https://blogs.gnome.org/mclasen/2013/08/05/scrolling-in-gtk/
[07:47] <larsu> mpt, seb128: no, these screenshots are misleading. It gets wider as you mouse-over it
[07:47] <larsu> GTK_THEME=Adwaita gedit to try them out
[07:48] <seb128> the thinner line is when you hold the click
[07:48] <seb128> it goes in autoscrolling mode
[07:48] <mpt> larsu, so we have exactly the same problem with the trough now as we did with the scrollbuttons before: pasty-grey crevices in each corner of the overall area.
[07:48] <seb128> or follow the mouse
[07:49] <larsu> mpt: I can make them #ff0000 if that helps visibility
[07:50] <mpt> larsu, you’re talking about the thumb. I’m talking about the crevices.
[07:51] <larsu> mpt: I don't understand. Which crevices do you mean?
[07:54] <larsu> mpt: where the background shines through between trough and the window border?
[07:56] <mpt> larsu, these bits: http://imgur.com/SvZ4Ezd
[07:57] <mpt> That’s what I thought seb128 was talking about with “<seb128> it looks weird to have a circle against a line”
[07:59] <larsu> mpt: ya, this is the window's background shining through because of the rounded corners. I agree with seb128 that we should flatten them
[08:02] <mpt> larsu, there are two ways to solve the problem: (1) square the corners or (2) fill them with something
[08:02] <mpt> I was suggesting a very simple approach to (2), just fill them with the same color as the scrollbar is already using for its border
[08:04] <mpt> though ideally they’d have their own 3-D appearance, like the thumb does, to make them look intentional
[08:06] <Laney> sup
[08:06] <seb128> hey Laney, wie gehts?
[08:08] <larsu> mpt: hm, I think 3-D might make them look a bit off. They appear only when you're in the window or when swiping
[08:08] <larsu> morning Laney!
[08:09] <Laney> doing good thanks
[08:10] <Laney> I added a breaks to gtk
[08:10] <Laney> it's in a silo now, didn't update that ppa
[08:12] <seb128> so it would force uninstall o-s-gtk3?
[08:13] <Laney> nah it upgrades you to a version which doesn't set GTK_MODULES and doesn't depend on it
[08:13] <Laney> so autoremove should get rid of it
[08:14] <mpt> larsu, fair enough, but if that’s the rule, the whole scrollbar needs redesigning, not just the corners
[08:15] <seb128> Laney, yeah, I didn't restart my session though, so the env is still set and I've no scrollbars in my apps now
[08:15] <seb128> need to restart later ;-)
[08:15] * seb128 doesn't want to close ongoing work though
[08:15] <larsu> mpt: tell me about it...
[09:29] <seb128> Laney, do you remember if in u-s-s we had/have a way to dynamically list or not plugins from the main grid?
[09:29] <Laney> yes we do
[09:29] <Laney> the battery plugin does it
[09:31] <seb128> thanks
[09:34] <Laney> what will you do
[09:34] <Laney> try to activate the s-i service and hide if that fails?
[09:36] <seb128> Laney, undecided yet, I'm pondering
[09:36] <seb128> 1. check for something that tells me s-i or snappy and hide in the second case, and change the depends to be | snappy-cli
[09:36] <seb128> 2. split the update panel in a new binary which has the depends and see that only in touch
[09:37] <seb128> 2. makes more sense if we plan to write a new panel for snappy updates
[09:38] <seb128> unsure yet, the backend is not going to have a lot on common but maybe the UI can be reused
[09:38] <seb128> or maybe it makes more sense to just start fresh
[09:38] <Laney> larsu: does (g)dbus have any way of asking 'could I activate this name' without actually activating it?
[09:38] <Laney> probably the existing one will get thrown away
[09:38] <Laney> I would have thought
[09:38] <Laney> if snappy it just a completely different thing
[09:39] <Laney> s/it/is/
[09:39] <seb128> the backend at least
[09:39] <seb128> the UI is lilely to stay the same
[09:39] <larsu> Laney: yes: gdbus call -e --dest org.freedesktop.DBus --object-path / --method org.freedesktop.DBus.ListActivatableNames
[09:39] <seb128> but then it's not a complex bit to copy over
[09:39] <Laney> ah nice
[09:40] <Laney> might be good to use that ^ to tell if system-image is there
[09:40] <larsu> Laney: well, that doesn't do exactly what you want, but there's nothing for individual names
[09:40] <larsu> Laney: other than looking in /usr/share/dbus-1/services
[09:40] <Laney> and yes, I think the UI has some complex state module so is going to be easier to do it over
[09:40] <Laney> larsu: why doesn't it?
[09:41] <larsu> Laney: hm?
[09:41] <larsu> why doesn't it what
[09:43] <Laney> why doesn't it do what we want?
[09:44] <larsu> it gives you a list of activatable names
[09:44] <larsu> doesn't tell you if a specific name is activatable
[09:44] <larsu> of course, you can find out from the liest
[09:45] <larsu> *list. I can't type today. drunk from the smoothie maybe?
[09:45] <Laney> liszt
[09:45] <Laney> I'm missing a piece of knowledge here
[09:45] <seb128> larsu, are you following dholbach on that green smoothie diet?
[09:45] <larsu> Laney: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BJDNw7o6so
[09:45] <larsu> seb128: urgh, no
[09:46] <seb128> k, was wondering :-)
[09:46] * larsu doesn't like green stuff in smoothies
[09:46] <larsu> unless kiwi
[09:46] <seb128> I see
[09:46] <Laney> nice tune
[09:46] <larsu> phoenix!
[09:46] <larsu> Laney: what are you missing?
[09:47] <Laney> 04/06 10:44:30 <larsu> it gives you a list of activatable names
[09:47] <Laney> 04/06 10:44:43 <larsu> doesn't tell you if a specific name is activatable
[09:47] <Laney> this concept
[09:47] <larsu> you asked for something like IsThisNameActivatable("com.something")
[09:47] <Laney> ya
[09:47] <larsu> but that doesn't exist. What does exist is ListActivatableNames()
[09:47] <Laney> you mean that we have to search the list?
[09:47] <larsu> yes
[09:48] <Laney> oh right
[09:48] <Laney> I get that :P
[09:48] <Laney> I thought that you were trying to tell me about some weird dbus thing
[09:48] <larsu> sorry if that wasn't clear. Just wanted to make the small point that my answer wasn't exactly what you were looking for
[09:48] <Laney> like you can't find out if it is activatable until you actually attempt to activate it
[09:48] <Laney> just that it /might/ be
[09:48] <larsu> no, I think it has to be
[09:48] <larsu> if it's in that list
[09:49] <Laney> nod
[09:49] <larsu> by ... err ... "definition"
[09:49] <seb128> Laney, I'm just going to look for the file on disk
[09:49] <larsu> but at least I got to listen to some phoenix because of this
[09:49] <Laney> haha
[09:49] <Laney> oh man :'(
[09:49] <Laney> this is one of those laney times
[09:50] <larsu> seb128: look into everywhere that's in $XDG_DATA_DIRS
[09:50] <larsu> actually that seems wrong
[09:50] <larsu> that var doesn't contain my .local/share
[09:50] <larsu> but dbus definitely activates stuff for me from there
[09:51] <larsu> oh! that's a defined fallback
[09:51] <larsu> neat
[10:02] <seb128> larsu, no, just for /etc/dbus-1/system.d/com.canonical.SystemImage.conf
[10:02] <seb128> it's basically a "is that package installed"
[10:02] <seb128> or /usr/share/dbus-1/system-services/com.canonical.SystemImage.service
[10:05] <seb128> Laney, the way you did it for battery seems to be from the battery plugin ... does it mean we have to load the backend on the main view only to get the dynamic visibility?
[10:08] <Laney> seb128: it's a different "plugin"
[10:08] <Laney> see plugins/battery/plugin - this isn't the full panel
[10:08] <Laney> (great naming)
[10:08] <seb128> Laney, so I would need to do a different "plugin" for system-updates only to deal with the visibility?
[10:09] <seb128> I wonder if it wouldn't be easier to just special case that in the visibility main function
[10:09] <Laney> yeah, it's quite minimal though
[10:09] <Laney> ...
[10:10] <seb128> was that a "..." = "no comment", like in reaction to "lets do a hack"?
[10:11] <Laney> indeed
[10:11] <Laney> you could convince kenvandine though and ignore me ;-)
[10:11] <seb128> well, I don't think it makes sense to have plugins added for each panel just to tweak the visiblity
[10:11] <seb128> need a better way ;-)
[10:11] <seb128> need to go for some erands/get food, biab, going to think about it while walking
[10:12] <Laney> then come up with a better way
[10:12] <Laney> the plugins should handle this themselves
[10:12] <Laney> one way or another - for example you could add a new key into the .pluginfile
[10:12] <Laney> VisibleIf : DbusActivatable:...
[10:12] <Laney> FileExists: ...
[10:21] <darkxst> Laney, what happened to your gtk upload? anyway mutter and shell are queued up in proposed, so let it through whenever
[10:22] <Laney> It's in a CI train silo because I'm uploading it with the overlay scrollbars
[10:22] <Laney> will go in shortly
[10:25] <darkxst> Laney, np, not concerned about delays really, was just letting you know shell was ready really
[10:48] <Laney> darkxst: done
[10:48] <Laney> enjoy your breakage!
[10:50] <darkxst> Laney, pretty sure I avoided major breakage with the shell update, so should be ok
[10:50] <Laney> I mean my breakage really :)
[11:08] <darkxst> Laney, ha ok
[11:11] <Laney> it is too nice to be inside
[11:11] * Laney relocates
[11:13] * Laney goes blind in a good way
[11:13] * larsu had a nightmare about going blind
[11:14] <willcooke> this is a good plan Laney. I think a lunch break is called for in the sunshine...
[11:14] <Laney> woah you just reminded me
[11:14] <willcooke> food?
[11:14] <Laney> I had one last night where I lost half of both of my ring fingers
[11:14] <willcooke> oh
[11:14] <willcooke> ok then
[11:14] * willcooke backs slowly away
[11:14] <Laney> was obviously most concerned about not being able to climb
[11:14] <willcooke> or type
[11:14] <Laney> good nightmare would have again
[11:15] <larsu> obviously
[11:15] <larsu> haha
[11:15] <larsu> willcooke: went for a run in the sun. Can recommend. Now eating a carrot instead of lunch
[11:15] <larsu> notsurehowthathappenend
[11:17] <willcooke> :D
[11:45] <Laney> larsu: do you have a version of your totem menubar patch on top of 3.14?
[11:46] <larsu> Laney: nope. Want one?
[11:46] <Laney> would be good
[11:46] <Laney> it's got some conflicts
[11:46] <larsu> why not just take 3.16?
[11:47] <Laney> need that to SRU it
[11:47] <darkxst> or my original 3.14 patches?
[11:47] <Laney> it's a fix to those
[11:48] <darkxst> oh ok
[11:48] <larsu> Laney: fixing some food right now, but will do it right after
[11:49] <Laney> darkxst: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/totem/+bug/1447224
[11:50] <Laney> larsu: actually it might be easy to resolve them, let me try
[11:55] <darkxst> Laney, I can't track every single bug in the ubuntu sphere
[11:57] <Laney> I didn't ask you to
[11:57] <Laney> we were just fixing it
[12:01] <darkxst> ok
[12:11] <larsu> Laney: let me know if you need help
[12:12] <Laney> sure, test building atm
[12:14] * darkxst needs to sleep. night all
[12:15] <Laney> nn
[12:15] <larsu> night
[12:56] <kenvandine> seb128, Laney: i like the idea of extending the plugin settings file, VisibleIf could be very useful
[12:57] <Laney> would be good to abstract some common patterns if they might be used more in future
[12:57] <Laney> like if we expect applications to plug in there
[13:34] <Laney> larsu: so my backport doesn't work
[13:34] <Laney> also if I run from master on that Sintel video I don't get any languages in the menu
[13:34] <Laney> and because the app menu is gone it's not possible to change languages in full screen
[13:34] <larsu> Laney: yes, I have plans for that, but gotta run now (will look at it later)
[13:35] <Laney> ok thanks!
[13:35] <Laney> subtitles do work on master & trad menu though
[13:36] <Laney> ah wait, maybe it's just that this video doesn't have any languages
[13:36] <Laney> in that case it might be an idea to disable the menu item or otherwise indicate that
[13:36] <Laney> currently just shows an empty menu (i.e. a line)
[13:50] <maxb> Hi. I'm using gitg in vivid, and I can't seem to find its preferences dialog. I'm suspicious it's something to do with the ubuntu menuproxy stuff, but setting UBUNTU_MENUPROXY=0 doesn't seem to fix things.
[13:50] <maxb> Are there any related suggestions about troubleshooting inaccessible menus that are configured in an application's vala code via Gtk.Applicationn.add_action_entries ?
[13:51] <maxb> Something to do with 'application' vs. 'window' menus, and these not being well translated into Unity?
[14:11] <Laney> maxb: Weird!
[14:12] <maxb> yes
[14:12] <Laney> It breaks for me with in-app menus but works without although it is called "Unknown Application Name" then
[14:12] <maxb> Hmm, so running 'UBUNTU_MENUPROXY=0 gitg' actually gives you a visibly different display, then?
[14:12] <Laney> no
[14:12] <maxb> ph
[14:12] <Laney> I go to Appearance in the control centre and then Behaviour
[14:13] <Laney> and change it to In the menu bar
[14:13] * maxb tries that
[14:13] <Laney> then it's back in the global menu and works
[14:13] <Laney> I guess it's LIM being broken with header bars
[14:13] <maxb> wait, what, now it's working
[14:14] <maxb> ish
[14:14] <maxb> My setting was already 'in the menu bar'
[14:14] <maxb> However, this time I actually git some entries dropping down from the 'gitg' menu
[14:15] <maxb> I was getting a zero-item menu before
[14:15] <Laney> If you can reproduce then T_revinho is the Unity guy to talk to
[14:15] <maxb> Though, now I seem to have a different bug, as as soon as I clicked on a checkbox, it went into a tight-loop logging Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_widget_get_parent: assertion 'GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed
[14:16] <maxb> Ah
[14:17] <maxb> I've figured out one portion of the confusion. I was using sudo to run gitg on /etc
[14:17] <maxb> In retrospect it is 'obvious' how that could break the integration
[14:17] * maxb will pause, reconsider, and attempt to isolate one underlying issue at a time
[14:19] <maxb> (I also have an issue that I can't seem to rebuild vivid's gitg source package on vivid, with build-depends installed - it dies with error: Package `ggit-1.0' not found in specified Vala API directories or GObject-Introspection GIR directories )
[14:34] <seb128> kenvandine, Laney, what do you think about http://paste.ubuntu.com/11566702/ ?
[14:35] <kenvandine> seb128, pretty good
[14:36] <kenvandine> i'd kind of like it to handle cases of than file
[14:36] <seb128> other than file you mean?
[14:36] <kenvandine> like gsettings key?
[14:36] <kenvandine> yeah
[14:36] <kenvandine> so visible-if-file-exits
[14:37] <kenvandine> visible-if-settings-key
[14:37] <kenvandine> etc
[14:37] <seb128> k
[14:37] <seb128> I can rename it
[14:37] <kenvandine> just a though
[14:37] <kenvandine> thought
[14:37] <kenvandine> i'd imagine we might find other cases like that, so yeah renaming it would be more concise
[14:37] <kenvandine> unless we made it a dict
[14:38] <kenvandine> visible-if-cond ?
[14:38] <kenvandine> then file: "some/path/to/file"
[14:38] <kenvandine> visible-if-condition maybe
[14:38] <seb128> I'm still undecided if we should have keys
[14:39] <kenvandine> or just visible-if
[14:39] <seb128> we currently have a "has-dynamic-visibility: boolean value, telling whether the plugin visibility can be determined by the plugin itself only "
[14:39] <kenvandine> yeah, i don't love that
[14:39] <kenvandine> it means the plugin has to load before deciding
[14:39] <seb128> right
[14:39] <kenvandine> which caused a ton of headache making it faster
[14:39] <seb128> also it means UI builds and then change/flickers
[14:39] <kenvandine> yeah
[14:40] <kenvandine> i spent a bunch of time on that in DC
[14:40] <seb128> should I just submit with the rename?
[14:40] <seb128> I don't want to spend much time on that now
[14:40] <seb128> just unblock the snappy image
[14:40] <kenvandine> what do you think of the idea of a dict?
[14:40] <seb128> extra parsing to do
[14:40] <kenvandine> ok
[14:41] <kenvandine> just submit with the rename :)
[14:41] <seb128> thanks
[14:41] <seb128> we can rename/change it later for a dict or shell commands return value or something
[14:41] <kenvandine> ok
[14:47] <cyphermox> seb128: can we talk about bluez 5 ?
[14:47] <seb128> cyphermox, sure
[14:47] <cyphermox> have you heard anything / plans to move to it this cycle finally?
[14:47] <cyphermox> I'm just asking out of interest :)
[14:53] <seb128> cyphermox, not more than previous cycle
[14:53] <seb128> check with rsalveti I guess
[14:53] <cyphermox> ok
[14:53] <seb128> the phone guys were still looking at it before vivid
[14:53] <cyphermox> thanks
[14:53] <seb128> yw!
[14:54] <cyphermox> yeah.. sad that it takes so long to get back to 2015
[14:54] <cyphermox> soon we'll be at the point where more people are going to complain that their dynamically pairing mice don't work well, and stuff like that. or want BLE
[14:55] <rsalveti> cyphermox: there is ongoing conversations to get this on track quite soon actually
[14:55] <cyphermox> ok
[14:55] <rsalveti> we found out we have aosp based trees with the required kernel work already
[14:55] <seb128> kenvandine, https://code.launchpad.net/~seb128/ubuntu-system-settings/visible-file-exists/+merge/261096
[14:55] <rsalveti> the main blocker atm is porting the patches for krillin
[14:55] <rsalveti> but we might have a 3.10 kernel for krillin soon
[14:55] <rsalveti> which would help quite a bit
[14:55] <cyphermox> ok
[14:56] <rsalveti> cyphermox: ping john-mcaleely if you want to know more, he was on top of it
[14:56] <rsalveti> (or should be soon)
[14:56] * rsalveti is mostly involved with snappy atm
[14:56] <cyphermox> rsalveti: thanks, that's really all I wanted to know
[14:56] <rsalveti> cool
[18:09] <willcooke> g'night
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2015-06-04-#xubuntu-devel
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[00:10] <bluesabre> evening folks
[00:10] <knome> hey bluesabre
[00:10] <bluesabre> hi knome
[00:44] <knome> ok, off for now
[00:44] <knome> ttyl and nighty
[07:28] <elfy> knome: I'm blaming libreoffice-elementary-style for the lack of letters ...
[10:36] <bluesabre> elfy: I'll fix that now :)
[10:58] <elfy> what a champ :)
[11:01] <bluesabre> package will (probably) be fixed in the next hour
[11:01] <bluesabre> building soon
[11:01] <elfy> bluesabre: thanks :)
[11:15] <dkessel> i am going back to using all those strange xubuntu ppas in wily, too. let's see what breaks :)
[11:23] <elfy> nothing yet :D
[11:30] <bluesabre> elfy: give it a shot now
[11:31] <bluesabre> gotta run, bbl :)
[11:31] <elfy> bluesabre: ta - cya :)
[11:33] <elfy> bluesabre ochosi - ok LO theme is good
[12:07] <dkessel> elfy: do you have a screenshot how it should look? I wonder if it is activated for me...
[12:08] <elfy> http://i.imgur.com/zPaXVHh.png is what I see
[12:09] <elfy> not all icons have been ochosi'd
[12:09] <dkessel> do i have to activate it somehow, or reset some theme setting? i get this: http://i.imgur.com/H9XSCHI.png
[12:10] <elfy> install it from shimmer daily ppa
[12:11] <elfy> then if needed Tools > Options > Libreoffice - view
[12:11] <dkessel> ahhhh!
[12:11] <dkessel> that setting was set to "tango" here
[12:11] <dkessel> now i got it too
[12:11] <elfy> that'll be it then :)
[12:28] <knome> elfy, sure...
[12:28] <knome> elfy, :)
[12:28] <elfy> knome: on the qa blueprint the "Evaluate drawing data from trackers ..." was more or less about the incentive thing - which is shelved so I'm removing that one, likewise your item on there - is that held over from V for the same thing?
[12:29] <elfy> you can copy and paste replies if you like :D
[12:29] * knome checks
[12:29] <knome> actually my item is still good
[12:30] <elfy> ok - what for though? might be useful to remind me ;)
[12:30] <knome> umm, i don't know
[12:30] <knome> the item is TODO :P
[12:30] <elfy> ha ha ha
[12:30] <knome> i was thinking some summarized stuff
[12:30] <knome> but i haven't been able to put a lot of thought to it yet
[12:31] <elfy> well as far as QA is concerned dkessel had some summary in progress which does
[12:31] <knome> mhm
[12:31] <elfy> but if you want to leave it on there - fine by me - unless it's September and still TODO :D
[12:32] <knome> dkessel == tracker developer :P
[12:32] <elfy> :)
[12:32] <knome> yes please for now
[12:32] <knome> let's see what comes
[12:33] <elfy> okey doke
[12:34] <knome> who cleared the mod queue for devel ml?
[12:34] <knome> was the sticker question a spam?
[12:34] <knome> -a
[12:35] <elfy> I did some today
[12:35] <elfy> no - not spam - rejected it with a suitable reply pointing to -users and the unixstickers page on x.org
[12:35] <knome> mhm
[12:35] <elfy> only one of the 3 I did was spam
[12:36] <elfy> other one was a support thing - sent them to users too
[12:36] <knome> if you reply off-list in the future, i'd thumb up if you CC'd [email protected]
[12:36] <knome> just saying - that sends a copy for all moderators
[12:36] <elfy> yea I know
[12:36] <knome> you might have seen me do that
[12:36] <knome> not a big problem, was just wondering where the mail went:D
[12:37] <elfy> I have seen you do it - then I delete them
[12:37] <knome> yep
[12:37] <knome> i don't expect you to do anything else with them :)
[12:37] <elfy> then why cc the mods ;)
[12:37] <knome> for information
[12:38] <knome> "this wasn't spam, but i dealt with it"
[12:38] <elfy> mmm
[12:38] <dkessel> to who it may concern: https://launchpad.net/mousepad links to a dead link as the project homepage: http://www.xfce.org/projects/mousepad/
[12:38] <dkessel> ah, a ping!
[12:38] <knome> and if they start arguing about why they think their should have been approved and blah blah
[12:38] <knome> dkessel, what's the right homepage?
[12:39] <elfy> http://users.xfce.org/~benny/xfce/apps.html ?
[12:39] <knome> i guess so
[12:40] <knome> updated
[12:40] <elfy> meh
[12:40] <knome> what?
[12:41] <dkessel> maybe that
[12:41] <elfy> that page isn't too good
[12:41] <dkessel> maybe https://github.com/codebrainz/mousepad
[12:41] <knome> elfy, nope.
[12:41] <elfy> only link I tried off it is dead
[12:41] <dkessel> but that's not too good either
[12:41] <knome> maybe just remove the link
[12:41] <elfy> yea
[12:46] <elfy> ochosi: not sure if gtk3.16 is likely to affect us at all, nor whether you've seen mails about it, but it is in -proposed now
[12:58] <knome> new gtk version not affecting us? hah, says i
[13:02] <elfy> :)
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"bluesabre",
"dkessel",
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"knome"
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2015-06-04-#ubuntu-nl
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[08:07] <lordievader> Goede morgen.
[08:09] <Sling> mogge
[08:09] <lordievader> Hey Sling, hoe is het ermee?
[08:10] <Sling> prima, net paar dagen aan de slag bij nieuwe werkgever :)
[08:10] <Sling> als 'ethical hacker', dus leuk werk
[08:11] <lordievader> Hehe, veel plezier ;)
[08:11] <Sling> danku
[08:27] <DarkEra> moggel
[08:29] <lordievader> o/
[08:32] * Fermata paast allen een kop koffie.
[11:09] <vanschagen> goeie middag allen
[11:13] <lordievader> o/
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"DarkEra",
"Fermata",
"Sling",
"lordievader",
"vanschagen"
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"channel": "#ubuntu-nl"
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2015-06-04-#ubuntu-co
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[16:18] <Ubuntero|81925> buenos dias
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"Ubuntero|81925"
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2015-06-04-#ubuntu-us-mi
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[00:08] <cmaloney> Evening
[01:01] <cscheib> nice evening to finally fire up the grill
[01:02] <cmaloney> Yeah, it's gorgeous out
[01:23] <cscheib> made wings on the grill, pulled pork in the dutch oven... yay for efficient usage of time
[01:24] <cscheib> bonus: girlfriend actually helped clean significantly this time
[01:48] <wolfger> +1
[12:15] <brousch> rick_h_: Yesterday you mentioned woodworking and kayaking. This was a project someone did at my old makerspace https://goo.gl/photos/yJV2Fo1MXMzVogTF7
[12:15] <brousch> Hand-made wood sea kayak
[12:15] <rick_h_> brousch yea, those are so cool
[12:16] <brousch> It was hard to get pictures of, but was really nice
[12:17] <brousch> Hm, and I like Google Photos better than google+ photos already. I can get a shareable link without having to actually share it on Google+
[12:18] <rick_h_> yea, they fixed the whole "thou shalt use G+ or nothing!" in it
[12:20] <brousch> Oh man, I just realized I never went through our Vegas/Grand Canyon photos. Some nice panos in there
[12:20] <rick_h_> :)
[12:25] <brousch> Only 376 photos
[12:30] <brousch> Moar kayak, and beer! http://www.mlive.com/business/west-michigan/index.ssf/2015/06/paddle_for_pints_traverse_city.html
[12:33] <cmaloney> morning
[12:34] <rick_h_> brousch: lol
[12:34] <rick_h_> morning
[12:34] <brousch> I wonder if there's a winery version of that
[13:35] <cmaloney> Good morning part 2. :)
[13:41] <brousch> Second morning?
[13:46] <cmaloney> yeah, I rebooted my machine
[13:46] <rick_h_> hobbit work day
[13:48] <cmaloney> heh
[14:14] <cmaloney> http://windowsserver.uservoice.com/forums/295047-general-feedback/suggestions/7996191-change-the-installation-option-for-windows-server
[14:14] <cmaloney> What happens when Microsoft takes away a GUI option in the server.
[15:23] <cmaloney> I'm getting the itch again for making a static site and using Pelican
[15:25] <greg-g> "Not everyone can code, use PS, use cmd line. The older generation grew up with code so they tent to use it more, the new generation who are taking over sys admin roles like GUI because it just works, its 100 times quicker than faffing about writing PS scripts and then theirs the whole desktop Start menu debacle."
[15:25] <cmaloney> greg-g: I about fell off my chair when I read that.
[15:25] <jrwren> greg-g: who said that? I want to blacklist them.
[15:25] <cmaloney> jrwren: See the windows server link above
[15:26] <jrwren> what an idiot
[15:26] * rick_h_ just pretends he never saw it
[15:27] <jrwren> at least the next 2 comments are "NO DONT!"
[15:27] <cmaloney> I tent to use the cmd line.
[15:28] <jrwren> cmaloney: lol
[15:28] <jrwren> i login and flag as inappropriate
[15:28] <rick_h_> lol
[15:28] <rick_h_> good call
[15:29] <rick_h_> "you're clearly too dumb to participate in this discussion"
[15:29] <cmaloney> jrwren: nice
[15:29] <cmaloney> Now now rick_h_, this is a self-selecting herd.
[15:29] <cmaloney> They're the ones that take Windows Server seriously.
[15:30] <cmaloney> (tongue firmly in cheek. Windows Server has its place)
[15:30] <jrwren> its place in the garbage. am I right? :)
[15:32] <cmaloney> Well, when interoperating with Microsoft's ecosystem there's nothing better
[15:32] <cmaloney> though I prefer not participating in that ecosystem.
[15:40] <wolfger> greg-g: GUI "just works"?
[15:40] <wolfger> jrwren: ++
[15:41] <wolfger> silly admin, Windows are for games
[15:42] <jrwren> zomg, starcraft2!
[15:44] <greg-g> I thought fallout 4 was all the rage right now?
[15:44] <greg-g> pre-rage, I guess?
[15:46] <_stink_> that's my normal emotional state: pre-rage
[15:48] <greg-g> _stink_: there's a zen koan somewhere in that
[15:55] <cmaloney> pretty sure there's nothing zen about rage.
[15:56] <cmaloney> or if there is then I'm a zen master
[15:57] <_stink_> hah
[15:58] <wolfger> zen rage. Isn't that what we call passive-aggressive?
[15:58] <cmaloney> No, that's just being a dick
[17:57] <greg-g> poor bookie
[17:58] <cmaloney> Not poor Bookie
[17:59] <cmaloney> Bookie will live on.
[17:59] <cmaloney> It's hitting phase 2
[17:59] <cmaloney> which should be more sustainable. :)
[18:00] <greg-g> oh?
[18:01] <greg-g> that wasn't indicated in that "we're closing" email :)
[18:01] * greg-g isn't in #bookie anymore
[18:01] <cmaloney> bookie.io is closing
[18:01] <cmaloney> the Bookie project is still alive
[18:01] <cmaloney> So the service is going away. The software continues.
[18:02] * cmaloney isn't going to let the software get a break.
[18:02] <cmaloney> *whipcrack*
[18:04] <greg-g> that's what Evan P told me re identi.ca
[18:04] <greg-g> ;)
[18:05] <cmaloney> ANd it's still going
[18:05] <cmaloney> although slowly.
[18:05] <cmaloney> problem with identi.ca is they took away all of the clients when they migrated
[18:05] <cmaloney> statusnet had Twitter compatibility
[18:06] <cmaloney> so it was pretty easy to create new clients for it.
[18:06] <cmaloney> pump.io isn't as easy
[18:06] <cmaloney> so it doesn't have the drop-in replacement
[18:07] <cmaloney> I think pump.io is great, but it's never going to mature
[18:07] <cmaloney> partially because the interface isn't there to support it and it's exceptionally complicated to follow anyone
[18:08] <cmaloney> identi.ca (Statusnet) had the advantage of being a reasonable walled-garden
[18:09] <cmaloney> Most folks you wanted to follow were already on identi.ca (or were at one point)
[18:09] <cmaloney> Pump.io doesn't have the discoverability.
[18:09] <cmaloney> What makes Bookie different is Bookie doesn't rely on third-parties for communication. It can be personal
[18:10] <cmaloney> I have a feeling it'll be part of OwnCloud at some point (if it isn't already)
[18:11] <cmaloney> Bah, they have their own
[19:18] <greg-g> my god it's nice outside
[19:18] <greg-g> there are nice things about working SF. The bay is nice. Walking to the bay is smelly and crowded, but, when you get there it's beautiful
[19:20] <_stink_> who replaced greg-g
[19:20] <jrwren> i could say teh same things, just replace bay with river :p
[19:29] <greg-g> _stink_: the sunshine :)
[19:29] <_stink_> heh
[20:14] <cmaloney> http://www.reddit.com/r/Michigan/comments/38gfr4/
[20:14] <cmaloney> rick_h_: ^^
[20:27] <jrwren> wow, quite a few breweries in that list whose product I've not drank
[21:00] <brousch> There is a lot of wine and beer in the Traverse area that I have not imbibed
[21:00] <jrwren> NEW LIFE GOAL!
[21:14] <rick_h_> cmaloney: :) http://www.rei.com/product/882595/wilderness-systems-tarpon-120-angler-kayak should be to the store for pick up between now and Tues :)
[21:14] <rick_h_> you can come on up and sit on the back if you want. drink your beer with your feet in the water with fish nibbling your toes
[21:18] <cmaloney> rick_h_: First course of business: win the lottery.
[21:18] <cmaloney> second course of business: buy all the bug spray
[21:19] <cmaloney> Oh, this is the one you bought?
[21:19] <rick_h_> cmaloney: yea
[21:19] <cmaloney> Why does it look like something that should be on a blue board with little pegs on it?
[21:19] <rick_h_> going up to my aunt/uncle's place on houghten lake next weekend so want it for that
[21:19] <rick_h_> lol
[21:20] <rick_h_> hard to sink
[21:20] <cmaloney> heh
[21:21] <cmaloney> Flint or Dusk?
[21:21] <rick_h_> dusk
[21:21] <rick_h_> want to be visible
[21:21] <rick_h_> so loud orange it is
[21:21] <cmaloney> Yeah, it doesn't look that bad in dusk
[21:21] <rick_h_> will take it on some lakes around here with there are real boaters
[21:21] <cmaloney> I'm usually more of a grey on black sort of guy but dusk looks nice.
[21:21] <cmaloney> rick_h_: That's what the loud life-jacket is for
[21:21] <rick_h_> yea, I worry about visibility to the big motor boards
[21:22] <cscheib> anyone know east-siders (Grosse Pointe) that do basement leak repair and/or mold removal?
[21:22] <cmaloney> cscheib: I hope you're asking for a friend
[21:22] <cscheib> heh, nope
[21:22] <cscheib> I got a no-look quote of $3500 for leak repair
[21:23] <cscheib> the leak's not so bad, as long as the downspouts are drained far enough away
[21:23] <cmaloney> Ugh
[21:23] <cscheib> working on tear-down myself
[21:23] <cmaloney> we have some leaks in our basement as well
[21:23] <cscheib> and at least addressing the surface mold
[21:23] <cmaloney> though I think we're going to try patching them ourselves
[21:23] <cmaloney> the mold is another matter entirely.
[21:24] <cscheib> indeed
[21:25] <cscheib> I doubt I have the kind of money for them to do the whole spiel
[21:25] <cscheib> so I'm taking my chances with respirator and moldstat plus
[21:25] <cmaloney> Good luck
[21:25] <cmaloney> That shit is nasty.
[21:30] <cscheib> as long as I can get things in a sellable state, I'll be happy. Probably about time for me to get a home warranty again, as it's darn near time for my furnace to die, and I'd rather not shoulder that expense
[21:43] <jrwren> have you identified the leaks?
[21:43] <jrwren> rod holes are easy to repair yourself.
[22:26] <cscheib> jrwren: looks like crack along the seams in the block
[23:17] <gamerchick02> rick_h_ no more bookie? sorry to hear that.
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"_stink_",
"brousch",
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"cscheib",
"gamerchick02",
"greg-g",
"jrwren",
"rick_h_",
"wolfger"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/06/04/%23ubuntu-us-mi.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-us-mi"
}
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2015-06-04-#ubuntu-pt
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[02:43] <astroo-> ciao pessoal
[21:12] <astroo-> ola pessoal
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:37.068044
| 2015-06-04T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"astroo-"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/06/04/%23ubuntu-pt.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-pt"
}
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2015-06-04-#ubuntu-us-tn
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[18:16] <netritious> howdy
[18:18] <netritious> guess no one hangs out here anymore :/
[18:21] <netritious> cya o/
[18:32] <wrst> hey net...
[18:32] <wrst> hmm
[19:59] <netritious> hey wrst :)
[20:00] <wrst> ha ha patience netritious, netritious :D
[20:00] <wrst> how are you doing?
[20:00] <netritious> not to shabby...yourself?
[20:01] <wrst> about the same, any exciting new projects to make us all jealous?
[20:01] <wrst> :)
[20:02] <netritious> new projects yes, but nothing to be jealous of wrst ;)
[20:02] <wrst> ha ha :)
[20:02] <wrst> new projects are good
[20:02] <wrst> $$
[20:02] <netritious> yep!
[20:03] <netritious> also picked up a p/t job at a local vapor shop. forgot how boring retail is lol
[20:03] <wrst> ha ha boring, and or frustrating?
[20:04] <netritious> nah, it's all good. employee discount makes up for any frustration.
[20:05] <netritious> this shop carries 250+ e juice flavors, so finding them sometimes is about the hardest thing lol.
[20:06] <netritious> still running arch wrst?
[20:16] <wrst> netritious: yes on the desktop I find it hard to beat
[20:17] <wrst> using debian for my little vps I keep running
[20:22] <netritious> debian is soooo solid. although, ubuntu as a server has been pretty solid for me to.
[20:22] <netritious> i'd like to try arch again, but there always seems to be something that distracts me.
[20:24] <wrst> yeah I think ubuntu and debian on a server are very very solid
[20:24] <wrst> arch on a desktop has been nice and stable for me I like the fresher packages there
[20:27] <netritious> i still use winders for desktop. if I ever make the switch, i probably will just stop using desktops altogether and use something like dwm.
[20:30] <netritious> i really /really/ wanted to use qubes os, but none of my systems are compatible 100% compatible.
[21:19] <wrst> I have looked at that but never tried it
[21:20] <Juzzy> heh i bought some empty 330gallon containers from a company that was making BANK mixing and selling evape shit
[21:20] <Juzzy> they were a "mfg"
[21:21] <Juzzy> they were buying it all in bulk and mixing it, selling to distributors
[21:21] <Juzzy> like no FDA regulations or anything he said
[21:21] <Juzzy> crazy
[21:28] <netritious> Juzzy: yep, that is the biz. would be awesome to have an investor...this biz is stupid easy.
[21:28] <netritious> i make most of my juice now.
[21:29] <netritious> mountain dew, red bull, a couple of tobaccos, and a premium menthol for my dad heh.
[21:30] <netritious> i've been working on a custard, chocolate + fruits/coffees, a few others.
[21:32] <netritious> and FDA regs are coming...you know how slow our govt is though lol.
[23:15] <netritious> aight...nice chatting with you guys. bbl
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"authors": [
"Juzzy",
"netritious",
"wrst"
],
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"channel": "#ubuntu-us-tn"
}
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2015-06-04-#ubuntu-ie
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[13:54] <daithif> wmexi[21~
[13:54] <daithif> /quit
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:37.073310
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{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"daithif"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/06/04/%23ubuntu-ie.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-ie"
}
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2015-06-11-#ubuntu-ir
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[04:51] <ferfereh2> ادیسه ای فضازمانی
[04:51] <ferfereh2> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/353d04c3947a65638f31
[08:17] <Guest75007> salam
[20:29] <frenda> سلام
[20:30] <frenda> میخوام زیرنویس بندازم روی فیلم. چندتا نرم افزار مثل امپلیر یا اف-اف-امپگ رو تست کردم اما
[20:31] <frenda> آرتیاِل ساپورت نمی کنند
[20:31] <frenda> یعنی به جای
[20:31] <frenda> !سلام
[20:31] <frenda> :اینجوری درج می کنند
[20:31] <frenda> سلام!
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:37.082557
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"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"Guest75007",
"ferfereh2",
"frenda"
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"channel": "#ubuntu-ir"
}
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2015-06-11-#ubuntu-se
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[05:21] <NeverW8> sommar sommar sommar!
[05:34] <Coffe> Si
[05:38] <Coffe> NeverW8: pm
[12:23] <Barre> hmm tror jag ser bittin..
[12:46] <Philip5> Barre: irl?
[12:46] <NeverW8> #selfieInc
[12:50] <Linda^> Bittin...
[12:50] <Philip5> Linda^...
[12:51] <Hund> hmm, tror jag ser Barre.
[12:51] <Linda^> Philip5: :(
[12:51] <Philip5> jag tror jag ser ljuset
[12:52] <Philip5> Linda^: l瓣ste dina punkter som dr繹mmande om bittin...
[12:52] <Linda^> Philip5: tv瓣rtom
[12:52] <Philip5> jass疇 ni 瓣r s疇 n瓣ra
[12:53] <Linda^> va
[12:53] <Linda^> Jag nekade hans friend request p疇 fejjan, s疇 n瓣ra 瓣r vi :o
[12:53] <Philip5> s疇 pass
[12:53] <Philip5> hehe
[12:53] <Philip5> du 瓣r h疇rd du
[12:53] <Linda^> Jo, typ tionde g疇ngen jag nekar hans friend request.
[12:53] <Philip5> jomen alla vill v瓣l vara v瓣n med dig?!
[12:55] <Linda^> Jag har inte sett en friend reques fr疇n dig! Eller n疇n annan h瓣rinne :o
[12:55] <Philip5> t繹rs ju inte... du 瓣r ju nattens drottning och det verkar lite farligt
[12:55] <Linda^> lolwat
[12:55] <Linda^> 繹verdriv :(
[12:55] <Philip5> jo jag trillade n瓣stan av stolen nu n瓣r jag s疇g att du var aktiv n瓣r det 瓣r dagsljus ute
[12:58] <Linda^> haha
[12:58] <Linda^> ge dig
[12:58] <Philip5> kanske m疇ste snacka lite med bittin om dig... han och jag 瓣r ju liksom v瓣rsta polarna sedan l瓣nge
[12:58] <larsemil> get a room!
[12:58] <Philip5> tss
[12:59] <Linda^> Philip5: Ja, s疇 pass bra polare att du kallar honom f繹r han, n瓣r han numera vill vara en hon, vad jag f繹rst疇tt :P
[12:59] <Linda^> bara kolla hans facebook.
[13:00] <Philip5> Linda^: har faktist bara tr瓣ffat honom en g疇ng och det var samma g疇ng som jag tr瓣ffade Barre och gav honom kalla handen
[13:01] <Philip5> det var ett minne f繹r livet
[13:02] <Linda^> Jag har inte tr瓣ffat honom (yay!), bara sett honom, och v瓣nt mig om direkt n瓣r jag s疇g att han kom i min riktning.
[13:02] <NeverW8> :|
[13:03] <Linda^> Jag tror inte han uppfattade att jag var d瓣r dock.
[13:03] <Hund> Jag gillar att du 繹ppet pratar illa om andra h瓣r.
[13:04] <NeverW8> Inte l瓣tt n瓣r det 瓣r sv疇rt Hund
[13:04] <Philip5> vill understryka att det var kalla handen under Barres tr繹ja som var ett minne f繹r livet... inte mitt m繹te med bittin...
[13:04] <Philip5> :)
[13:04] <Hund> NeverW8, Inte l瓣tt n瓣r det 瓣r tungt heller.
[13:04] <Linda^> Kallt! Kyla. Ge mig!
[13:04] <NeverW8> Hund: +1 (v瓣rd en 繹l p疇 s繹der)
[13:05] <Hund> Philip5, Missade du byxorna och hamnade under tr繹jan?
[13:06] <Amoz> ALlllts疇疇疇疇疇疇疇疇疇, android/ubuntu/linux/mtp-skit! hilfe!
[13:07] <Philip5> Hund: hehe, n瓣 det var mest bara ett infall p疇 en ubuntutr瓣ff, releaseparty. k瓣nde igen Barre fr疇n bild men hade aldrig tr瓣ffat honom och det var ju i april och jag var r瓣tt kall om h瓣nderna. sade hej till Barre genom att k繹ra kalla h瓣nder under tr繹ja p疇 homom och han blev lite paff men sedan dess 瓣r vi b瓣sta v瓣nner... ;)
[13:07] <Amoz> 14.04 + android 5.1 + mtp, hur g繹ra?
[13:07] * NeverW8 tar en snus och njuter lite av ' Game of Ubuntu '
[13:07] <Amoz> den vill inte mounta :(
[13:08] <Philip5> Amoz: har ocks疇 det problemet och anv瓣nder gmtp de g疇nger jag beh繹ver komma direkt 疇t android som f繹rr
[13:09] <Amoz> Philip5, allts疇, MTP 瓣r ju sjukt sl繹tt med
[13:09] <Philip5> ja
[13:09] <Amoz> dock f疇r jag inte adb push/pull att fungera ens l瓣ngre
[13:09] <Hund> Philip5, Ah. :P
[13:09] <Amoz> n疇n som har tips om vad jag missat?
[13:09] <Philip5> det 瓣r sjukt mycket smidigare n瓣r man kunde k繹ra android som en usb-lagringsenhet bara
[13:09] <Amoz> idd
[13:09] <Philip5> Amoz: l瓣ngre? har du bytt androidenhet?
[13:10] <Amoz> Philip5, allts疇 har f繹r mig att det funkade innan, men det kan ha varit p疇 CM, nu k繹r jag stock p疇 min razor
[13:10] <Amoz> (nexus7)
[13:11] <Philip5> Amoz: skiljer det sig n疇got p疇 hur den nu detekteras? t瓣nkte om den inte finns med i dina udev rules sedan 瓣ndringen? borde h瓣nga p疇 fysisk enhet och inte p疇 mjukvara
[13:11] <Amoz> vill kunna l瓣gga 繹ver mina serier lite snabbt, 疇 d疇 duger inte <1MB/s
[13:12] <Amoz> Philip5, , jag la in n疇n udev-regel innan, men adb funkade inte att k繹ra innan det heller
[13:13] <Amoz> tror MTP/usbfs eller n疇t gn瓣llde och drog bort enheten fr疇n systemet
[13:13] <Amoz> iaf enligt dmesg
[13:13] <Philip5> sedan m疇ste ju enheten s瓣ttas att ta emot adb-commandon fr疇n datorn
[13:13] <Amoz> s疇 kanske st繹r om man k繹r usb-debug samtidigt som MTP
[13:13] <Amoz> jojo, men det 瓣r den inst瓣lld p疇
[13:14] <Amoz> nu kommer den upp som ist of devices attached
[13:14] <Amoz> ???????????? no permissions
[13:15] <Amoz> lol
[13:15] <Amoz> List of devices attached
[13:15] <Amoz> ???????????? no permissions
[13:15] <Amoz> som vanlig user
[13:15] <Amoz> och startar jag adb som root s疇 ser den inte enheten
[13:15] <Amoz> uhm, jo nu gjorde den det, men den st疇r d疇 som offline.
[16:41] <maxjezy> n疇gon som redan k繹r windows 10?
[16:42] <Philip5> k繹r knappt windows alls
[16:45] <Hund> Philip5, Du k繹r v瓣l Kubuntu antar jag?
[16:49] <Philip5> jupp
[16:50] <Hund> :D
[16:50] <Philip5> jag 瓣r en f繹r gammal hund f繹r att orka testa en massa distar s疇 l瓣nge n疇got funkar f繹r mig
[16:51] <Hund> haha
[16:51] <Hund> Jag kan tycka det 瓣r roligt.
[16:51] <Hund> Men jag har liksom testat allt nu.
[16:51] <Philip5> var kul f繹r 10 疇r sedan ;)
[16:51] <Hund> Kvar 瓣r bara typ remixer av Debian, Gentoo osv.
[16:51] <Hund> :D
[16:52] <Amoz> Hund, hur 瓣r opensuse 疇 fedora och dem ?
[16:54] <Hund> Fedora 瓣r trevligt! Det k瓣nns v瓣ldigt vuxet. Dvs n疇got f繹r den lite 瓣ldre teknikern som vill ha n疇got stabil, men 瓣nd疇 inte lika antikt som Debian. :P
[16:54] <Hund> stabilt*
[16:54] <Hund> openSUSE har jag inte testat sedan.. 08-09? :P
[16:59] <Amoz> aha
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2024-05-13T22:11:37.167575
| 2015-06-11T00:00:00 |
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"Barre",
"Coffe",
"Hund",
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"NeverW8",
"Philip5",
"larsemil",
"maxjezy"
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"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/06/11/%23ubuntu-se.txt",
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